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From: jazz@netcom.com (David C. Navas)
Subject: Re: Commodore Announces Winners of 4000 Reasons Contest
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:30:46 GMT

In article <69892@cup.portal.com> joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan) writes:
>Dan (BLAZE-) Barrett writes:
>>        Heck, I thought *my* reason was *infinitely* better than any of the
>>winning entries ("Buy an Amiga or I'll @$#%& KILL you") but you don't hear
>>me whining about it. :-)

>I too was a little surprised at some of the winning entries.  The winner
>didn't have and zing or flash, or even hutspa (technical terms we use in
>broadcasting :-) that even a "good" entry should have.  

Well, the Amiga is hardly the king when it comes to writing (Word Processing)
packages.  Perhaps a Video would have been easier for most current Amiga
owners to author -and- have better described why it is we buy the things
in the first place.

Just a thought.  But then it's 6:30AM, and often my thoughts at this point
are a bit bleary....

>No wonder they pick loosers for advertizong!  Oh well...
                     ^^^^               ^^^^

See what I mean?  ;)

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From: jas54553@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jerry A. Segler Jr.)
Subject: Re: PIRACY
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:37:03 GMT

An interesting Debate... Although I must agree that Piracy can't be equated
to theft directly... In principal yes but not directly...

Take this as a small example of what I mean.

5 people chip in to buy that new game or whatever... Under most people's
definition that is Piracy but each person believes they are "morally" correct 
since they did pay for the program (at least partially)...

Is this Piracy? And if so who gets set to jail all 5 or an arbitrary 4 of the
5? Also what was stolen?

Comments? (surely) Flames? (probably)

-Jerry

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From: 5marte_f@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Programing Terminal Protocols
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:37:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
X-From: 5marte_f@spcvxb.spc.edu
X-Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
X-Date: 16 Nov 92 17:35:30 EST
X-Organization: St. Peter's College, US

Hello Programmers,

	I was wondering if anyone kows what you need in order to program a 
terminal protocal, such as an XPR protocol for Atalk3. I want to see if it's 
possble to program VT320 emulation as an external (XPR) protocal. Of course it 
anyone knows of an existing vt320 emulation please let me know.

	Felix Marte
	5marte_f@spcvxa.spc.edu
     or 5marte_f@spc11c.spc.edu

	thanx :-)
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From: saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson)
Subject: Re: PIRACY
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:36:38 GMT

jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov (Jack Radigan) writes:

>thom@cs.mun.ca (Thomas Clancy) writes:

>>While I don't condone piracy, I do believe that some of the points
>>that the original poster had in favor of Piracy are valid, as are some
>>of the anti-piracy arguments. Morally, piracy is probably wrong, but 
>>then "morals" are all relevent to something else.

>  "probably wrong"?  Sure sounds to me like you don't have the ability to 
>make up your own mind.  

>  When you get right down to it, piracy violates copyright law, end of 
>subject.  

Do you think that there is anyone reading this who does not already
know this?

>Anything that tries to validate breaking the law is a pathetic
>attempt at rationalization.

Tell that to the Jews in Germany in 1939.

Scotty AJ


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From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Betting on an A1800
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:46:45 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov20.001050.5129@pro-freedom.cts.com> <hgm.722264960@news.ncsu.edu>

>eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>>>hgm@ncsu.edu writes:
>>> The 3000 is dead (check out Creative Computer's ad in AmigaWorld).
>
>>That's about the flimsiest information one could get upon which to base a
>>completely preposterous and highly speculative comment such as this.  Of
>>course, we've been told for the last 8-9 years that the C-64 "was dead"...
>>funny how CBM keeps right on selling those "dead" machines.  I would think
>>that my A3000 was at least as good as a C-64... and will continue to be so
>>for several more years to come.
>
>I'm using the term "dead" in the sense that C-A will not be making any more
>of these very soon. I seriously doubt this will cause my (or your's) A3000
>to suddenly cease to work. I am simply reading the handwriting on the wall.
>
>Think about it -- why in the world would anyone buying a new Amiga want a
>3000, when for about $500.00 more, you may be able to buy a 4000/30 with the
>latest and greatest Amiga chipset?

Think about it.  Compatibility.  Until all of those current useful software
packages are fully AGA and 040 compatible, the best machine for speed AND
compatibility is the 3000.  At least for now.  In fact, I may get one soon
to use with BT2 and some other video packages.

I suspect the 3000 will someday be discontinued, but not right now.  

-Joel
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From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: AMOS bashing...
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:44:00 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

white@gtewd.mtv.gsc.gte.com writes:


>	C'mon guys, Amos can be as easy or as complex as you want it to
>be.  I'm really tired of people saying that AMOS is just a kids language.
>Sure, it can be a good introduction to programming (just like any other
>basic language in the world can be.)  I have called Amiga DOS commands
>from amos, executed foreign executables from amos, and opened a cli and
>written program output to it.  I wrote a quick-and-dirty IFF to postscript
>converter, and of course a few games.
>	I'm not saying that these programs will support every aspect of
>the system, but from a utilitarian point of view they work great.  I
>am a little disappointed that Amos does not have full intuition support
>but its getting there.  
>	Every language has its ups and downs but with a little knowledge
>of assembly most of downs can be avoided.

Except, apparently, in the case of AMOS....
Although I've never played with AMOS proper, every program written in AMOS
that I've ever seen (and I've had a *lot* uploaded to me) sends Enforcer
and/or Mungwall through the roof.

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From: whiplash@cs.montana.edu (Mike Wagner)
Subject: Does the A1200 have any ports??
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:40:02 GMT

Does the A1200 have serial, parallel, etc. ports?  I am interested in
buying one, but I want to know if I can use my current modem and printer
or am I going to have to buy a lame PCMIA modem-card??  Thanks

Mike

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From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Where can I find showanim, or something like it, and a mod player?
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:38:13 GMT

In article <_hx1x8j@rpi.edu> adamkp@rpi.edu writes:
>I accidently deleted showanim, now I cant see any of my cartoons, I mean eric
>shwartz's cartoons, so I looked on the merlin ftp site, and sure enough they 

   Most of his files, also have the player as part of the archive. At least,
everyone I have ever downloaded, had the player included.
I usually get mine from wuarchive. JimP. 

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From: fgd3@nifty.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe, III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Request useless information...
Distribution: world
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:47:05 EST
Organization: Fabbian G. Dufoe, III

In article <1992Nov17.114936.19850@cs.ruu.nl> clldomps@cs.ruu.nl (Louis van Dompselaar) writes:
>What's the plural of Amiga?

   Amigas.

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From: hodenawa@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: THANKS FOR THE HELP!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:12:11 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

Thanks to all who gave me tips on buying an Amiga. I found out everything
I needed to know.  Unfortunatly I havnt the funds to buy the most suggest-
ed Amiga, the A4000. I have put my order in for an A600 with a 40 meg HD
and 2MB ram.  Im sure this will suit my needs. 
    Thanks again...
              WAH    or    HODENAWA@cnsvax.uwec.edu

 P.S. If anyone has any other neat tidbits of data, my ears (or eyes I
      guess) are open.  Im new to Amiga, and could use info.
From: D.G.Legros@bradford.ac.uk (DG LEGROS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: FONT CONVERTER!!!!!
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:58:54 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92356597@ccw209
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Roger Wilco (unseen@mcl.ucsb.edu) wrote:
: 
: I am looking for any programs for converting any kind of font to the
: Compugraphic scalable fonts used by ProPage. The FontManager program
: with ProPage is WAAAAYYY too picky about what fonts it will accept, and
: quite flakey, too.
: 	ProPage is also fairly picky about what CG fonts it will use. If
: the format is not JUST right (too old, or whatever), it will simply draw
: a box rather than the character you typed.
: 
: 	So I need a converter to convert any type of font to the CG font
: format used by ProPage. source fonts could be CG, PostScript, Mac Adobe,
: IBM Adobe, AmigaDOS2.0 Intellifonts, WHATEVER!!!! I'm just sick of not
: having more than a few scalable fonts to use.
: 
: 	Does anyone know of some good PD or commercial converters? Anyone
: 	want to write some?  :)

I don't think thare are any as AGFA still hold the copyright and license
the CompuGraphic font format.


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From: pm@nnsgs50.lon40.nt.com (Peter Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A1200 + Hard drive (Max sizes??)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 15:09:45 GMT
Organization: Northern Telecom Europe
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nnsgs50.lon40.nt.com

In article <1eamabINNdk7@ceres.kingston.ac.uk> cs_a245@ceres.kingston.ac.uk (Stephen T Mumford) writes:
>The subject says it all.
>
>What is the largest capacity hard drive you can fit in an A1200 ?
>
>I have heard various figures, ranging from 130Mb, to 200Mb. Which is true ?
>

I have seen Digital advertising a 220MB 2.5" harddrive in the November
edition of Electronics Buisiness  - DSP 2022.

No price was given but it is bound to be expensive :-)

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From: hibrown@sarah.albany.edu (Herb Brown)
Subject: Re: Now.. you get what you want! (maybe) :)
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 13:22:49 GMT

In article <Bxz6JH.Gy0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@osage.ucs.indiana.edu wri
tes:
>
>Ok, I'm dying to write another program for the Amiga, so throw all your
>suggestions this way.  NOT intense things like comm programs, compilers,
>print spoolers (hi Scott :), etc.  Anything else... try me, and I'll let
>you know if I can handle it.  Maybe some modifications to IntelliKey are
>due, so I can release v2.0.. I haven't had a lot of input on suggestions
>and changes for IntelliKey.  So e-mail away, and let me know what you'd
>like to see, and I'll see what I can do.
>
>      - A challenge-hungry psycho programmer
>
>--
>Sam Hulick          | "You can't discover new oceans unless you have the
>shulick@indiana.edu | courage to lose sight of the shore."  --Anon.
>(NeXTmail welcome)  |
>

We desperately need fax programs for popular Class 2 generic type modems
(like the XyXEL, for example) that are sold in this country. We are told
that one such program (GPFax) is available from SUPRA, but they have no
idea that such a program even exists. All they know about is their own
version, so the generic one is unavailable from them or from any mail-
order house. This is bad!

Herb

 

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From: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: Vhat?  No flickerfixer in A4k?  Vhat ees thees?
Originator: shulick@navajo
Reply-To: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:53:31 GMT


Wait, did I hear right?  The A4000 has no flicker-fixer?!  But if the
A3000 had one, why wouldn't they put it in the A4000?  Now we have to go
out & buy a f-fixer for $200-$300?  *SIGH*  Geez.  Of course, this is
what I heard.. if I'm wrong, please correct me. :)

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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: DSP not as good as we thought?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:28:46 GMT

In <1992Nov20.184901.15161@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (M.S. Ashton) writes:
>If this is the case then all the nice DMA sound is completely unusable for
>computer generated music (soundtracker/Med etc.) and only useful from replaying
>a sample at the frequency it was sampled at.
>Am I to understand that to get round this, one needs to use masses of 
>real-time CPU intervention,thus spoiling the whole point?

One of the major points of having a DSP in an audio system is that it is
very capable of changing a sample frequency in real time (and it can even
keep the playback speed which is impossible if you 'just' have a variable
rate DMA channel).

Regards,
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From: saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson)
Subject: Re: PIRACY
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:05:34 GMT

jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov (Jack Radigan) writes:

>  Also, while there are still places that don't recognize Copyright Law, it's
>not really pertinent to the issue of piracy in places that do, is it? 

Come on Jack...

First you say that pirating is against the law, and therefore inexcusable.
Now when confronted with a society which allows pirating without breaking
a law, you want to throw it out as not pertinent.

People disobey laws which they do not agree with all of the time.  Perhaps
you don't, and that is interesting, but we are not talking about JUST you,
and your belief that American Law is one True Religion.

By the way, "Copyright Law" is not a single standard entity.  It baries
greatly all around the world, and when a nation-state holds a different
policy and therefore a different view on the subject, it does not mean
they do not recognize this "Copyright Law" of yours, it means they have
their own.

Scotty AJ
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From: sboutwel@sandbox.kenn.wa.us (Scott Boutwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Another Amiga Sighted On TV!
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:12:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: sandbox.1992Nov18.071225.9050
Organization: The Sandbox, Public Access HP-UX


Program on the Discovery Channel called Invention featured NEWTEK's Video
Toaster... They even gave credit to the Amiga as the system that Drives it. 
Showed an NEWTEK toaster work station...  (ala 2000 with Toaster and sticker).
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From: xero@cislabs.pitt.edu (George J Karabin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Large File FTPing
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:04:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Could some kind soul out there tell me how to go about FTPing large files?
I'm doing the standard file to 720k disk to messydos conversion to amiga
format business. Until now, I haven't needed to get any largish files, but
now I have to get some files in the megabyte range. Are there any compression
utilities that I could use on both ends of the process that let you cut a
file into pieces, and then reassemble it after the 720k extraction?

Thanks,
Josh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (M.S. Ashton)
Subject: Monitor for 1200/4000
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:48:13 GMT

More questions have appeared.
I'll repeat myself :

You need the 1960 to display all the AA chipset modes except the panalled 
15Hz/10Hz modes.

The cheapest I've seen it in the U.K. is 380 pounds.
SVGA monitors start at 200 pounds by comparison.
From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: The Amiga 1200 Specs - From CBM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:53:33 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <qwg+r*7k1@caleb.UUCP>, jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) wrote:
> In article <mwm.2i5l@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>, Mike Meyer writes:
> 
> > CBM (as a company) is _NOT_ interested in selling high-end Amigas.
[...]
> > The high-end machines serve a three-fold purpose:
> > 	1) So they can have advertize "upgrade path" for the above.
> > 	2) To keep the h/w designer happy.
[...]
> I doubt that CBM makes marketing decisions based on "keeping designers happy."
> That is what pay and perqs are for.

You're right - selling high-end machines probably has little to do
with keeping h/w designers happy. However, being allowed to design
around the latest-n-greatest does.

When the Acura NSX was announced, it was publicly stated that it had
been "in development" for the last decade. Most of that time, it was a
high-performance toy for the designers. The logic behind letting CBM's
hardware designers develop high-end machines would be the same: let
them design and play with high-end machines; it keeps them happy.
Whether you then sell the machines is another question.

	<mike
From: jonn@chusuk (Jon Noble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Want info on PCMCIA
Summary: Can you use IBM PCMCIA Ethernet cards in A1200?
Keywords: PCMCIA A600 A1200 IBM Ethernet
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:31:51 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


I'm looking for more info on PCMCIA as it relates to the A600, A1200, et.al.
Is this slot PCMCIA 2.0 compatible?  

I see IBM advertising three new PCMCIA 2.0 cards for PC laptops that provide
connections to:
	1. Token ring
	2. Ethernet
	3. 3270 

Do these cards rely on the laptop Intel processor and MS-DOS? Are they plug-
and-play in the A600/1200? (I doubt it.) Can a driver for AmigaDOS be created
that would otherwise make these cards plug-and-play?

In general, is any PCMCIA card (memory, modem, disk drive) directly "compatible"
on any hardware platform, or are software drivers required to provide the glue
between the card and the computer?

One last one: if, as I suspect, the answer is that drivers are required, is
C= or any third parties working on such drivers for specific cards?

Thanks everyone!
-jon

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