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From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: How to load code at run time - without shared libs ?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:13:01 GMT
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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:     How do I load code from a .o file into a malloc'ed buffer and run it ?
:     
:     No, I can't use shared libs.

This is fairly complex, but possible.  The best advice I can give you is to
wait until the 9.0 "Programming On HP-UX" manual is available, because it has
an excellent discussion of this topic.  To get you started, though, you may
want to look at the man pages for ld(1), in particular the "-A" option, and
a.out(4) for the architecture you are using.

Any particular reason you can't use shared libraries?  I assume it is because
the code to be loaded cannot be guaranteed to be PIC?

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Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
From: paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: network backup failures
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:03:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: eye.1992Oct12.100340.22996
Organization: 3D/EYE, Inc.  Ithaca, NY

In article <174090002@hpubvwa.nsr.hp.com> buds@hpubvwa.nsr.hp.com (Bud Sloan) writes:
>In comp.sys.hp, peter@astol.astro.lu.se (Peter Linde) writes:
>
>>   It seems then that no simple solution exists to our backup  problem.  Do
>>   I  have  to  sacrifice   security  by   implementing   a   non-supported
>>   modification  of the kernel  (allowing NFS root access), or do I have to
>>   spend  thousands of dollars to buy Omniback, just in order to be able to
>>   do a decent backup?
>
>Not really.  From the system where the DDS is located, try something like the
>following.
>
># remsh hostname_1 tar cf - . | dd of=/dev/rmt/0mn obs=64k
># remsh hostname_2 tar cf - . | dd of=/dev/rmt/0m obs=64k

An alternative is to grab a copy of GNU tar, which understands networked tape
devices.  The gtar equivalent of the above would be:

    remsh hostname_1 gtar cf myhost:/dev/rmt/0m .
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From: joser@gfimda.uucp (Joe Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: Printing to a network printer
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:03:13 GMT
Organization: Kraft General Foods

From article <1992Oct8.152026.15339@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, by thollowe@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Tom Hollowell):
> OK, I asked about this last week, but I have a little
> more info on the problem, so maybe someone
> can help me a little more with it.
> 
> Our system in a staqndalone with 3 terminakls and a console,
> and we are connected to our local ehternet.    There is a printer
> HPLJIII that is also directly hooked to the network
> at a specific IP address with a specific netwrok name.  
> 
> What I need to do is access this printer so that I can print outfiles to
> it from the system.  
> 
> SAM has a thing for hooking up remote printers, but it doesn't seem to 
> be able to work properly.  When it ask for remote system nme, I enter
> the network name of the printer, but after the system enables it
> all requests for printer to the remote do not go through, saying the queue has not 
> been enabled.  
> 
   Tom you need to enable the printer with the enable command.  If your printer
   queue (name) is  phplj3 then enter:

	# enable phplj3

   Do this as root or change to super-user.  I am not sure if SAM allows
   the printer to accept requests.  If not, you may want to enter

	# /usr/lib/accept phplj3

   before the enable command.

   Hope this helps.


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From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: HP-UX 9.0 & X11R4/Motif1.1
Originator: gcagle@dracula
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 23:50:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
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In article <3929@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) writes:
|> 
|>   One hopes that HP will do The Right Thing and include imake and
|> xmkmf and such other essential X11 core tools with HPUX 9.0.
|> 

Not on the 9.0 I've seen. Hmph.

- Greg
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From: arons@tyfon.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Tom Arons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: RTS/CTS flow control on HP9k/700 serial port?
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:12:55 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of California at Davis

Can anyone who has successfully configured a 9000/7x0 running 8.07 to use
hardware flow control on a dial in modem line supply me with the following:
1. Device minor number: according to the support line a 'c' in the low
order hex digit should turn on flow control.  This makes no sense from
the documentation, but almost works:  If I power on the modem *after* getty
starts I can connect once, but if the modem is powered on when getty starts
the modem goes into some kind of loopback mode where the xmit and recv leds
are lit.

2. entry from /etc/gettydefs: I am using the following:
19200   # B19200 HUPCL ICRNL OPOST ONLCR CS8 CREAD
                       ISIG ICANON ECHO ECHOK IXANY TAB3
        # B19200       SANE CS8 IXANY TAB3 HUPCL
        #login: #19200


3. entry from inittab. I am using the following:
a0:234:respawn:/etc/getty ttyd00 19200

4. cable pinout. I am using a "standard" modem cable. It
has the same pinout as an HP24542M cable.

Thanks in advance for contributing to my sanity.
  Tom Arons
From: ewoods@hemel.bull.co.uk (Eoin Woods)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Killed ???
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:50:43 GMT
Organization: Bull HN UK

fein@epg.nist.gov (Aaron Fein) writes:

>A FORTRAN programmer on my system just came to me with a situation where
>his FORTRAN program dies before the first line is executed and the only 
>message he gets is "Killed".  
Get used to it - this is HPs standard approach to process based error
handling (and presumably there's nothing in any log anywhere - No ?).

It could be running out of memory or the process table could be full,
although in the second case you *might* get another message to say
that there are no nore processes.

Eoin.
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From: quan@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Suu Quan)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:38:39 GMT
Subject: Re: Producing Movies from an HP 9000/730
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

/ hpcc01:comp.sys.hp / heeres@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Ken Heeres) /  9:00 am  Oct  9, 1992 /
>I have a project in which I need to produce a vhs tape of images.  The WS I
>have is an HP snake.  Is there any equipment out there that will allow me to do
>this?

	The only multi-media stuffs I've seen are on MacIntosh'es. There
	is a small company that are porting those multi-media tools to the
	snake's platform.

	contact Dr John R. Busch
		Vice President of Engineering
		Clarity Software
		2700 Garcia Avenue
		Mountain View CA 94043

		Phone (415) 691-0320 ext 110
		internet: jbusch@clarity.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: michel@cst02.segin.com (Michel Pollet)
Subject: Re: Disconnecting SCSI cables while system running
Reply-To: michel%cst02.segin.com@relay.prime.com (Michel Pollet)
Organization: Segin, Groupe Axime
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:36:03 GMT

dgreen@sti.com (Dan R. Greening) writes:
>gmh@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Hughes) wrote:
>>Yes, you will sometimes panic the system, so it is best pactice to shut it
>>down.  I've demonstrated this to myself at a most annoying time....

>I've demonstrated it to myself too, but it is far too appealing to avoid
>the temptation: my backup unit is a shared DAT drive and my 710 is not shared.

>I haven't had any problem doing this with a quiescent system.

>It seems like this would be a useful thing to fix.  Any reason why the
>system has to panic, rather than spew a warning and wait for the drive to 
>come back on line, if a disk access is made to an unterminated bus?

	The SCSI bus is made for that, for example, macintosh or SUNS allow
	you to do that. There even some kind of removable SCSI disk that
	were made on that principle (Alim in the dock, controler&disk in the
	removable unit).

	Michel
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From: sean@coombs.anu.edu.au (Sean Sebastian Batt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP finally has released ypbind with security fixes!
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:59:51 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
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atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) writes:

>In article <STEINAR.HAUG.92Oct7094355@delab.sintef.no> Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug) writes:
>>HP finally has released ypbind with security fixes, as the CERT Advisory
>>reproduced below shows. Thanks, HP! (And about time!) Now, how about making
>>such security fixes available on the net (for instance from ftp.uu.net), like
>>other vendors do?

>  Absolutely right. Security-relevant patches should be available via
>anonymous ftp from a well connected site as soon as they are created.
>Other vendors, for example Sun, have been doing that for years. HP is
>really behind the times and needs to open up.

HP could well be ahead of the rest if they tried. Why isn't my SE
asking me if I think my site needs patch XXXX?

Sean
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From: bt@irfu.se (Bo Thide')
Subject: Re: Shared Libs on HP9000
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 08:16:48 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden

In article <1992Oct9.215305.2157@u.washington.edu> seymour@stein.u.washington.edu (Richard Seymour) writes:
>In article <BvtHFA.F4C@fc.hp.com> marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com writes:
>  in response to these questions:
>>: What are the advantages of  SHARED LIBRARIES?
>>:  Smaller executables? Any change in performance?
>   ...in my experience: YES (600%)  and  YES  (25% )...
>>: Should I recompile xv, emacs, perl to take advantage of this?
>..."try it and see"...
>Marc's reply was:
>>The intended advantage, the whole reason we did it, is smaller executables.
>...
>>There is a slight performance degradation in the nomral case due to the 
>> overhead of dynamic loading, and the position-independent code in the 
>> libraries.  It is usually insignificant - less than 0.5% difference in SPEC,
>
>...well, maybe we're not "normal", but our initial test-case medium-big
> Fortran program went from a 146 seconds runtime to 104 seconds runtime by
> invoking the non-shared library  (Wl,-a,archive).  The executable grew
>  from 40kb to 286kb.  Other tweaks with optimization brought us to 46 seconds.
> I posted a litany of these trials back in early March '92 
>(machine: HP 9000/710, HP-UX v8.07)
>--dick

I was involved in this discussion and as far as I recall, your code was
repeatedly calling trig functions with the same argument inside a very
large loop.  For such extreme corner cases the then 8.07 f77 compiler
was not able to restructure the code.  The tweaks you mention was to
move these trig function calls outside the loop.  There *is* often a
small penalty by using shared libs vs archive libs when you have a lot
of math lib calls.  In this case the penalty was extreme due to bad
programming style.  Dick did *not* write the code--soebody else,
apparently not very well skilled programmer, had.  The solution was
given by Bob Montgomery of HP.

Bo
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From: mjo@snclib.snc.edu (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: NeXT and HP?
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@snclib.snc.edu>
Organization: :noitazinagrO
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 07:12:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.144324.2287@merrimack.edu> fernandeza@merrimack.edu writes:

:Does anyone at HP know if NeXT Computers Inc.  will be using HP's
:new PA7100 RISC chip in their (NeXT's) upcoming RISC workstations?
:
:If anyone knows, e-mail to:  fernandeza@lucy.merrimack.edu

If anyone knows, or has some pretty good data, please post!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: kniveton@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com (Andy Kniveton)
Subject: HP VUE 3 
Organization: Motorola LTD
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 13:27:01 GMT

Hi,

Has anyone got any info on HP VUE 3 ?

Andy.
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Has anyone heard the rumors concerning HP's new portable 700 series machine ?

I hear that it is small enough to fit in your pocket and is code named Trouser
snake !
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jdj@Umunhum.Stanford.EDU
 (John D Johnson)
Subject: Re: Flaky 'tar' on HP700/HP-UX 8.05.
Organization: Computer Systems Laboratory, Stanford University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 17:59:13 GMT

Zenon Fortuna (zenon@resonex.com) wrote:
> In article <1992Oct13.183723.27590@csi.com> ravi@csi.com (Ravi Bhaskaran) writes:
..
> 
> Try
> 
> tar cvf - foo1 foo2 | compress | dd of=/dev/rmt/0mn ibs=512 obs=nnn
> dd if=/dev/rmt/0mn bs=nnn | uncompress | tar xvpf
> 
> I use "nnn" as big as 128k for DAT, but something like 10k may be good as well.
> 
> The problem with truncated data is related to "dd" reading from the pipe.
> 

Could your explain this problem in more detail?  I'm worried our backups may
not be working!

For backups, the relevant line from our backup script is:

  dump 0uf - $partition | remsh $tapemach dd of=$tapedev obs=126b
 
Do we need to add ibs=512?  We have only restored a few files from our
backups, so if there is a 1 in 10 chance of failure, we probably would not
have seen it yet.

John D Johnson
Computer System Lab
Stanford University
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From: bobm@hpcvxbm.cv.hp.com (Bob May)
Subject: Re: HP-UX 9.0 & X11R4/Motif1.1
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:13:59 GMT

lipp@sierra.com (Damon Lipparelli) writes:
: With the impending release of HP-UX 9.0, I was wondering if the X11R4 and
: Motif1.1 libraries will link OK under the new compilers and linkers that I
: gather will be in the new operating system updates.  My company is not
: going to be able to jump to X11R5 and Motif1.2 immediately, but we need the
: compiler bug fixes.

   (Sorry for the previous blank response - editor problems...)

   Yes. The R4 and Motif 1.1 shared libraries are supported on 9.0, and
   they live in the "usual" places (/usr/lib/X11R4 and
   /usr/lib/Motif1.1). The R5/Motif 1.2 libraries appear in
   corresponding locations (/usr/lib/X11R5 and /usr/lib/Motif1.2).
   
   Bob May
   Hewlett-Packard
   User Interface Technology Division - Corvallis
   bobm@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com
   (503) 750-4099                   Fax: (503) 750-3788
From: joslin_paul@ae.ge.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Can't YACC (was Re: WANTED: Perl for HP 700)
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:52:24 GMT
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Organization: GE Aircraft Engines
Originator: news@c0228.ae.ge.com

In article <1992Oct7.231750.4641@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, rjacks@austlcm.sps.mot.com (rodney jacks) writes:
> Could someone tell me where I might be able to get a copy
> of Perl for the HP 700 via anonymous FTP.  I'd prefer
> a compiled and working copy since I've been unable to build
> the GNU version of Perl I obtained from UMich archives. 
> We don't have Yacc on our 700s.

We've also found that if you install the C++ fileset, then use rmfn to
remove it, it will delete yacc and lex.  Apparently rmfn doesn't
understand links very well.  You might have to reinstall the fileset
that has /usr/bin/yacc and /usr/bin/lex. 
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From: jgarza@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Juan D. Garza)
Subject: wiring diagram
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:54:56 GMT


would like a wiring diagram to set up a modem on a HP9000/845 through a
full modem mux card. modem is 100% hayes compat. and is a 5mnp. would like
any settings that i need to set on the modem.  have been trying to configure
but the modem will either not answer or answer but not connect. i give up.

thanx in advance
--later
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.windows.x
From: kc@netcom.com (Dameon D. Welch)
Subject: Re: Where to get libXaw (compiled) for HP9000/300 ??
Organization: Wayne's World, Inc -- NOT!
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:55:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.184108.28763@autelca.ascom.ch> dhuber@autelca.ascom.ch (Daniel Huber) writes:
>I have FTP access...
>
>Please give me a hint..

I'm also looking for the Xaw Widgets compiled for the 700's (as well
as the 300's). If you find out anything, please post.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: shenkin@still3.chem.columbia.edu (Peter Shenkin)
Subject: Re: Killed ???
Organization: Dept. of Chem, Columbia U, New York
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:16:30 GMT
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In article <Bw2w9G.EvB@fc.hp.com> marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com writes:
>: A FORTRAN programmer on my system just came to me with a situation where
>: his FORTRAN program dies before the first line is executed and the only 
>: message he gets is "Killed".  
>
>Most likely, the program is simply too big to be loaded - the data exceeds
>available swap and/or maxdsiz, so the program dies with a SIGKILL....

This is not necessarily because the guy's program is too big, either -- it
could be just because other processes are using the available resources.
Doing a "size" on the executable will tell you just how big the running
version will be (assuming he doesn't use dynamic allocation, which is
unlikely since you say it's Fortran).

	-P.

	-P.
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From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: HP-UX 9.0 & X11R4/Motif1.1
In-reply-to: mjs@fc.hp.com's message of Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:23:16 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
Distribution: na
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:16:01 GMT

Is the Huge Unofficial HP-Emacs included with HP-UX 9.0? 
That's my criterion for a complete sysytem!
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From: jbr0@cbnews.cb.att.com (joseph.a.brownlee)
Subject: Re: HP/UX Performance Monitoring?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:42:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.150319.1905@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson)) writes:
> In article <1992Oct9.200614.15346@timesink.chi.il.us> mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec) writes:
> > A friend of mine new to UNIX is running an HP9000-827S under HP/UX
> > 8.02 with 32MB memory. Apparently they are having performance
> > problems even tho there are only a few developers on the machine.
> > Can anyone recommend any performace monitoring tools?  [...]
> 
> Top is available from iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu. You can also get trial
> copies of Glance+ from HP - call the Response Center if you have
> software support.

Glance is actually a pretty nice tool, since it allows you to not only look at
overall system performance, but to peek into individual processes.  It also
keeps some average performance stats, but those are only counted since Glance
was fired up.  There are lots of options to filter the view of the processes
to fit some desired criteria.  Glance is available from HP for around $1K.

I'd be interested in something more like System V's "sar" that lets you get
"after the fact" data for a running system.  I suspect hoping that "sar" was
added to HP-UX 9.0 is too muchg to hope for, though...

>             [...] There are also a bundle of HP-UX patches that
> supposedly deal with performance, though none have made any difference
> on our 750, but maybe you'll have better luck on an 800.

We have some of those, too.  They helped somewhat, but we didn't overcome the
fundamental problems with memory management in HP-UX 8.0.x until we added more
physical memory.  Your mileage may vary.
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