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From: richard@sis.uucp (Richard Baird)
Subject: Does elm handle default header entries??
Followup-To: comp.mail.elm
Summary: How do you include a default Reply-to: field automatically
Keywords: header reply-to
Organization: Sheridan College, Ontario, Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:41:26 GMT


Hello Elm users:


I have just ftp'd and built elm and I am wondering.... Is there a way to
have elm include a default header in a message. I was using mush and 
found having mush automatically insert a Reply-To: field a very nice
feature. The only way I can do it now is to use the "edit headers" 
feature of the "m" command, but this becomes anoying after a few messages.
I really like using elm.....it is *real* easy to use, but this header 
stuff is a real problem for me.
 
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Richard

p.s. Sorry if this is a FAQ
--
|Richard Baird              |e-mail:  richard.baird@sheridanc.on.ca           |
|Computing & Communications |phone: (416) 845-9430 x449  #include <disclaim.h>|
|Sheridan College, Oakville,|                                                 |
|Ont. Canada                |  Sorry, no witty comments this week!            |
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: bart@zigzag.UUCP (Bart Schaefer)
Subject: Re: E-Mail system recommendations needed
Reply-To: bart@zigzag.z-code.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:02:08 GMT

I hope this reaches Jaye at least via news or mush-users, because I've
never managed to get mail through to cs.montana.edu when I tried to
reply personally to his inquiries about Z-Mail.

On Aug 27, 11:40pm, Jaye Mathisen wrote:
} Subject: Re: E-Mail system recommendations needed
}
} In article <2A9CF942.29269@orion.oac.uci.edu> fredv@abba.acs.uci.edu (Fred Velijanian) writes:
} >I am looking for an email package for about 200 people on an Ultrix
} >system.
} 
} I hate to plug a commercial product here, but I'm going to do it anyway...
} (I'm not affiliated with these guys at all, other than a kinda happy customer).
} 
} Take a look at Zmail, from the guys that gave the world mush (mail user shell).
} 
} It has Motif interfaces, curses interfaces, line-mode interfaces, and Openlook
} interfaces, runs on everything, supports all kinds of cool features, the
} list is endless.
} 
} Definitely get it.  Pricing is OK.

First of all, thanks for the plug. :-)

} With the caveat below...
} 
} One BIG gripe.  (Had to be one didn't there... :)
} 
} Licensing is seriously hosed for a person that wants to buy mush for
} themselves.  It's locked to a machine, I think it's the IP address or 
} the ethernet address or something stupid like that.
}
} If you're a single user, wanting to spring for a mail package that you can
} run on multiple machines, then zmail is not for you, it sucks rocks.
} I wanted to be able to run it on 2 different machines.  Not at the same time,
} but even if I did, I'm the only one using it.  I wanted to install it into
} my account, but it can't be done.  It has to be in /usr/lib/Zmail or
} somesuch.

Z-Mail 2.1 relieves even this gripe, by providing a network license
server option.  With the network server, you can install Z-Mail anywhere
you like -- just tell the server where to look for the license file.
It requires no special permissions to run the server daemon (though it's
nice to make entries for it in /etc/services and inetd.conf, it's not
required).  Further, with the network server, you can buy a one-user
license for Z-Mail and use it from any machine on the network.

Send mail to info@z-code.com for pricing and other details.

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                     schaefer@zigzag.z-code.com
Z-Code Software Corp.                             schaefer@z-code.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich)
Subject: Aliases with MUSH
Organization: Vision Graphics
              Dover NH
              USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:03:51 GMT

I've noted that when you call up MUSH with an alias as the sender,
it still only displays that alias... shouldn't, for sake of clarity,
it _expand_ the alias on the display, ie:

$ mush alias
To: bang!alias@alias.one.com (alias)

or something of that nature?

Just a suggestion.

-- 
	   -----------	      Forrest Aldrich	      -----------
	   -------     morwyn!forrie@unhtel.unh.edu	  -------
	   ----						     ----
	   --	     VISION GRAPHICS --	Dover, NH - USA	       --
	   ------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: belal@sco.COM (Bela Lubkin)
Subject: Re: filtering the response
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:51:43 GMT

Robert Brown asked about pre-filtering included messages before replying
to them.  Here's one possible solution.  Note that I haven't implemented
it myself, but that his question addresses something that's been
bothering me for a long time.

I have a command alias:

  cmd rv reply -eI

which I use to reply to messages.  It automatically includes the
original message and throws me into my editor (vi, thus the mnemonic
"rv").

Suppose I changed the indent_str to something uniquely identifiable.  I
could then change my editor string to name a script which would first
edit each line starting with the indent_str, then edit the results with
vi.  The edit would consist of removing the unique indent_str,
de-tabbing the line, then prefixing the *real* indent_str that I intend
to use.

(If you do something like this, I also highly recommend setting
"edit_hdrs" so that you can edit your headers in the same editor
session).

You might also want to use a specific editor script only for replies,
not other commands.  So:

  cmd rv 'set edsave=$editor; set editor="$HOME/bin/mush_reply";
          reply -eI; set editor=$edsave'
  set edit_hdrs indent_str="UnIqUePrEfIx--"

bin/mush_reply:

  sed '/^UnIqUePrEfIx--/s/^..............//; detab; s/^/> /' $1 >/tmp/$$.mr
  mv /tmp/$$.mr $1
  exec vi $1

"detab" is, of course, not a sed command; and none of this has been
tested; and you'll probably want to write a C program to actually do
what my sed pseudo-code pretends to do.

And if you do, please post the results.  I'd like to use it...

>Bela<
From: rnb@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu (Robert N. Berlinger)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Bug in mush 7.2.4
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:04:03 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine, NY

Compiled 7.2.4 and immediately came up with a problem.  realname was
being set to the name of my mail spool file.

The problem seems to be that mush reuses a variable (buf) that is
storing the realname before it actually sets it.  I moved the new code
about the MAIL variable down below where mush sets realname and
everything checks out.  This only happens if you don't have MAIL set.

Also, for the last several version of mush at least, pick -ago seems
to glitch out, e.g., doing a pick -ago -1w says

Searching for messages that contain "w l
					".

followed by the appropriate messages.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: robertb@BARRA.COM (Robert Brown)
Subject: filtering the response
Summary: responding to a message but not having junk in there
Keywords: filter, responding
Organization: BARRA - Berkeley, CA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:29:40 GMT


I asked this question long ago, but I don't think it ever actually got
posted...

I'd like to be able to specify a filter of some sort that filters the
message that I'm responding to before it gets "autoinclude"d.  I would
prefer that this filter be an executeable that I can specify, perhaps
through a variable.

The reason I want to do this is to filter tabs into spaces because the
tabs get all messed up once they get the indent_str is put onto the
beginning of each line.

Does anyone know how I can do this?  Is this possible with the current
mush?  If it is not possible, has anyone implemented something like
this?
-- 
Robert Brown			   Work address: BARRA
UUCP: ...!uupsi!barra!robertb			 1995 University Ave. Suite 400
Arpa: robertb@corwin.barra.com			 Berkeley, CA 94704
						 (510) 548-5442
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: How to set the umask ?
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT Inc.
Affiliate-Of: EVB Software Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:32:58 GMT


Simple question : whenever I save a file the permissions 
		  is 600, I want it to be 666. How to
		  do this ? I tried setting the umask
		  in .mushrc but it did not work.

thanks
-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: sam@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM (Sam Falkner)
Subject: getting hostname out of From line
Keywords: hostname set unset From .mushrc
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 00:00:33 GMT

sorry if this is a FAQ.  i use and love mush, but it's putting my
hostname in my `From' line in outgoing mail, and that's messing things
up here.  when mail leaves mush and goes off to sendmail, it should just
say `From: sam', but instead it says `From: sam@mas'.

i put an `unset hostname' in my .mushrc, and this fixed the problem, but
now it complains about hostname not being set every time i invoke mush!
what's the deal?

thanks in advance for any help!

- sam
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: michael@jarthur.claremont.edu (Michael Elkins)
Subject: Re: Help on Mush help feature!
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:42:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.145842.10077@cis.uab.edu> chilukur@amnese.eng.uab.edu writes:
>	When I try to use the help feature in mush, I get the following
>	error message:
>	Cannot open help file "cmd_help":No such file or directory.
>
>	In what directories should I expect to see these files and if they
>	are not loaded can I ftp it from someplace?

That depends on how it was compiled.  Look in the Makefile and see how
LIBDIR is defined.  My guess is it's something like /usr/lib/mush, or
/usr/local/lib/mush, but it depends on how your sysadm's set things up...

	--me

--
Michael Elkins - CS Sys Op, Harvey Mudd College - michael@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
From: schaefer@z-code.COM (Bart Schaefer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Re: problem with mush under hp-ux
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:08:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: z-code.9208251408.ZM13600
Reply-To: schaefer@z-code.com
Organization: The Internet

Just found this buried among some other old mail:

On Jul 29, 10:12pm, Judy Mathers wrote:
} Subject: problem with mush under hp-ux
}
} I'm running mush version 7.2.3 on both a hp 9000/730 running hpux 8.0.7
} and a hp 9000/380 running hpux 8.0.  About 1/3 of the time, mail sent
} with it gets confused.  Problems range from parts of the header being
} duplicated into the body of the message to the whole body being
} duplicated.  I've never had the headers themselves confused enough to
} bounce the message.  It is mush that's causing the problem since the
} duplications show up in my outgoing mail record.  This seems to be the
} only problem with it.
} 
} Does anyone have any suggestions as to what's causing the problem?
} 
}-- End of excerpt from Judy Mathers

I don't have any ideas about what could be causing it, but you can try
some things to track it down:

    Send several messages with "debug 4" in effect.  Mush won't run
    sendmail, but will instead print to standard output what it would
    have sent to sendmail.

    Drop back to "debug 2" and "set verbose".  Send several more messages
    (the same ones, if you can).

    Try each of these both with and without "set edit_hdrs".

    Try several times to verify that ~p doesn't show the duplicated data,
    i.e., that the problem is happening when you send and not when you
    edit.

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                      Vice President, Engineering
schaefer@z-code.com                                Z-Code Software Corporation
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: robertb@BARRA.COM (Robert Brown)
Subject: a possibly stupid question
Summary: how to set current message
Keywords: current message
Organization: BARRA - Berkeley, CA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:23:07 GMT


How does one set what the current message is in mush upon
initialization?  In particular, I'd like to set the current message
once I get into mush to be 1 (i.e., the very first message) no matter
what sort options I specify.  I noticed that mush makes the current
message be whatever the latest message is.  (Believe it or not, that's
not what I want.)  I've tried putting into my initialization file
everything I could think of: "from 1", "header 1", and just putting "1
> /dev/null".  None of these things seems to work.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?  I'm tempted to just change
the source code.
-- 
Robert Brown			   Work address: BARRA
UUCP: ...!uupsi!barra!robertb			 1995 University Ave. Suite 400
Arpa: robertb@corwin.barra.com			 Berkeley, CA 94704
						 (510) 548-5442
Xref: sparky comp.mail.mush:318 comp.mail.misc:2845
From: mikeh@bryant1.ncd.com (Mike Harrigan)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush,comp.mail.misc
Subject: UUPC
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:07:36 GMT
Followup-To: comp.mail.mush
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Mt. View, CA, USA

Dan Heller recommended that I ask on this newsgroup about how to get UUPC (uucp for DOS). I want to try using a portable PC with Dan's Z-Mail for DOS software. According to Dan, UUPC will allow me to download/upload mail from my work UNIX system for local processing on the DOS machine. Can anyone clue me in on UUPC?

Please respond to my mail address since I don't read this newsgroup:

mikeh@ncd.com

Thanks!

-- 
Mike Harrigan
Network Computing Devices
mikeh@ncd.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger Cornelius)
Subject: Re: Bug in mush 7.2.4
Organization: Personal System Computing :-) Gulfport, FL
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:33:31 GMT

In article <1052@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu>, rnb@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu (Robert N. Berlinger) writes:
> Compiled 7.2.4 and immediately came up with a problem.  realname was
> being set to the name of my mail spool file.
> 
> The problem seems to be that mush reuses a variable (buf) that is
> storing the realname before it actually sets it.  I moved the new code
> about the MAIL variable down below where mush sets realname and
> everything checks out.  This only happens if you don't have MAIL set.

I believe this one has been discussed here several times.

> Also, for the last several version of mush at least, pick -ago seems
> to glitch out, e.g., doing a pick -ago -1w says
> 
> Searching for messages that contain "w l
> 					".
> 
> followed by the appropriate messages.

I can confirm this also, in 7.2.4 at least.  I don't have time to
track it down unfortunately.  mush is compiled using regcmp() and
friends, if that's any help.  regcmp is mentioned in the error message.
It appears regcmp is being passed an unitialized pointer.

Is this problem present when mush is compiled with re_exec() (or
whatever the alternative to regcmp() is)?

-- 
Roger Cornelius        sherpa!rac@uunet.uu.net       ...!uunet!sherpa!rac
From: argv@zander.z-code.COM (Dan Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Re: E-Mail system recommendations needed
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:57:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: zander.9208280857.ZM22196
Reply-To: argv@z-code.com
Organization: The Internet

> On Aug 27, 11:40pm, Jaye Mathisen wrote:
> Take a look at Zmail, from the guys that gave the world mush ...
...
> One BIG gripe.  (Had to be one didn't there... :)
> 
> Licensing is seriously hosed for a person that wants to buy mush for
> themselves.  It's locked to a machine, I think it's the IP address or 
> the ethernet address or something stupid like that.
> 
> If you're a single user, wanting to spring for a mail package that you can
> run on multiple machines, then zmail is not for you, it sucks rocks.

This was totally true for 2.0, but is only partially true for version 2.1.
Version 2.1 has a network license server that allows you to run zmail on any
machine on a network.  The license server is locked to a host, but the zmail
itself isn't.


  --dan
From: anders@dit.lth.se (Anders Ardo)
Newsgroups: comp.doc.techreports
Subject: Changed WAIS-server for techreports archive
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:52:51 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Engineering, Lund University
NNTP-Posting-Host: willow.ucsc.edu
Originator: golding@willow

I have changed the server machine for the WAIS-server indexing 
comp.doc.techreports messages and other techreport info.
WAIS users please get the new comp.doc.techreports.src file from
directory-of-servers.
  Sorry for the inconvenience.
        Anders

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From: em@cs.uta.fi (Erkki M{kinen)
Newsgroups: comp.doc.techreports
Subject: Tampere has recovered!
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:55:35 GMT
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Due to a network break down at our site, we have been 
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From: legend@cheshire.oxy.edu (Linda A. Malcor)
Subject: Lotus Printer Drivers? FTP?
Keywords: FTP, Printer, driver
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:30:19 GMT

Is there an FTP site where I can find a Printer Driver for 1-2-3 3.1+
for the Cannon BubbleJet 10e?

The sooner the better (I have a client in three days).

Thanks,
Daniel Malcor
(213) 237-4590
From: rglew@cs-acad-lan.Lakeheadu.Ca (R. J. Glew)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Re: help: 123 data table, @dsum()
Date: 27 Aug 1992 17:15:18 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University

In article <1992Aug26.170745.29793@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> dbw@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.b.wood) writes:

>I have a small database of expenses listed by date, and I want to
>generate a data table of per-month totals (actually, from the 15th of
>one month to the 14th of the next, although I can't make it work even
>for calendar months).  When I set up the data table, the criterion
>range doesn't seem to take its date input as variable:  I get the same
>sum for every month.  (123 version 2.01)

>How do I set up such a table?  (I want to use data table to compute the
>table only as necessary, since it takes forever.)

>Thanks,
>Dave Wood dbw@germany.att.com


In response to your question:

          A           B        C      D     E     F     G
1     Date           Cash
2     --------------------
3     25-May-92    608.65
4     29-May-92    627.17
5     01-Jun-92    935.74
6     03-Jun-92    150.94
7     08-Jun-92    230.04
8     22-Jun-92    603.97
9     22-Jun-92    888.00
10    28-Jun-92    984.42
11    08-Jul-92    576.67
12    11-Jul-92    341.09
13    12-Jul-92    107.34
14    15-Jul-92    216.70
15    18-Jul-92    985.83
16    25-Jul-92    676.99
17    02-Aug-92     46.07
18    05-Aug-92    728.39
19    08-Aug-92    402.64
20    20-Aug-92    291.04
21    22-Aug-92    873.09
22    24-Aug-92    937.98
23    26-Aug-92    584.15
24    27-Aug-92    147.53
25    --------------------
26    Total     11,944.44
27    ====================
28
29
30                                  Date  Date  Date  Date
31    May-Jun    2,552.54              0     0     0     0
32    Jun-Jul    3,501.49
33    Jul-Aug    3,056.62
34    Aug-Sep    2,833.79
35    --------------------
36    Total     11,944.44
37    ====================
          A           B        C      D     E     F     G


The working formulae follow:

D30:  'Date
E30:  'Date
F30:  'Date
G30:  'Date
A31:  'May-Jun
B31:  @DSUM(A1..B25,1,D30..D31)
D31:  +A2>=@DATE(92,5,15)#AND#A2<@DATE(92,6,15)
E31:  +A2>=@DATE(92,6,15)#AND#A2<@DATE(92,7,15)
F31:  +A2>=@DATE(92,7,15)#AND#$A2<@DATE(92,8,15)
G31:  +A2>=@DATE(92,8,15)#AND#A2<@DATE(92,9,15)
A32:  'Jun-Jul
B32:  @DSUM(A1..B25,1,E30..E31)
A33:  'Jul-Aug
B33:  @DSUM(A1..B25,1,F30..F31)
A34:  'Aug-Sep
B34:  @DSUM(A1..B25,1,G30..G31)



Richard Glew
Lakehead University
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
From: silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert)
Subject: Re: Public domain spreadsheets
Reply-To: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert)
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:17:15 GMT

In <1992Aug28.172806.27285@nynexst.com> ben@nynexst.com writes:

>I am looking for public domain spreadsheets. I do not know very much about them
>so I do not know what sort of features are desirable. So far I ahve found sc version6.12 
>and oleo which was last changed in 1990 and I got it from 
> prep.ai.mit.edu 

I have version 6.21 of sc (biome.bio.ns.ca:pub/unix/sc.tar.Z),
and since this has been around for a while there may be a newer version.
-- 
William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
InterNet Address: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca
From: adamt@ant.EBay.Sun.COM (Tom Adam)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: RESunOS Lotus 123 - GUI vs CUI
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:53:22 GMT
Reply-To: adamt@ant.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ant.ebay.sun.com

To change the display on Lotus for SUn

Use the setup123 program.
Choose change selected options
Choose change  graphics display
Choose X window for the character based display
Choose OPEN LOOK Interface for the GUI

Save changes.
In article 26891@cas.org, lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>We have some users which need access to both the Character and Graphic
>User Interface to Lotus on a Sun platform.  Can someone point me to the
>appropriate doc for setting things up so they can get the version they
>need appropriately?  Thanks!
>-- 
>Larry W. Virden                 UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lvirden
>Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org
>Personal: 674 Falls Place,   Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614
>America Online: lvirden@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
From: dbw@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.b.wood)
Subject: help: 123 data table, @dsum()
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:07:45 GMT

I have a small database of expenses listed by date, and I want to
generate a data table of per-month totals (actually, from the 15th of
one month to the 14th of the next, although I can't make it work even
for calendar months).  When I set up the data table, the criterion
range doesn't seem to take its date input as variable:  I get the same
sum for every month.  (123 version 2.01)

How do I set up such a table?  (I want to use data table to compute the
table only as necessary, since it takes forever.)

Thanks,
Dave Wood dbw@germany.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets