HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Markku.Savela@tel.vtt.fi (Markku Savela)
Subject: Re: Servers and clients and software oh my!
	<HROSE.92Aug14185312@rocza.eff.org>
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:21:28 GMT
Reply-To: savela@tel.vtt.fi (Markku Savela)

In article <HROSE.92Aug14185312@rocza.eff.org> hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:

>Note: for server connection requests, *please* mail
>operlist-request@eff.org -- this kind of traffic doesn't belong in
>alt.irc

  Neither does it any harm to have it here too, actually I prefer them
  here. Gives some idea about who and where are people who are
  interested in IRC (and don't want to hide it). (But, naturally one
  gets better replies from Helen :-)
--
Markku Savela (savela@tel.vtt.fi), Technical Research Centre of Finland
Telecommunications Laboratory, Otakaari 7 B, SF-02150 ESPOO, Finland
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: rojcook@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (JACQI COOK)
Subject: Re: one night....
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:57:29 GMT

Hi there, =)

>gee..
>net.chicks can be most embarassing... esp. at 4 am!...

(You should have seen the guys...)

>   btw.. the ppl involved were remsleep, apricots, magen, amya and bowie...

Apricots  and  Chicken - YUMMMM!!!!!

> The main point of this is to get some feedback on what other ppl
>thought of their first meeting with net.friends...where they what u
>expected????

Hmmmm...no, but I wasn't disappointed.  Magen (cute), Remsleep (very cute), 
Bowie (what a cutie!!)   =)  Amya was the cutest...*grin*

>   The irc.studs (bowie, remsleep and magen) were of course your 
>typical net.nerds... with the exception of bowie who had not the 
>knowledge of these irc gods but did have a sence of humor... (well
>sorta).  :>

"I wanna be IRC op...waaaaah" - Bowie

>for something like a local bbq... where we have to *gasp* be off the
>terminal for a couple of hours.... But hey!!.. we can bring our
>laptops... :->

So when's the BBQ????

--Apricots--  =)
From: malea@milton.u.washington.edu (Julie Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Whois command
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:17:23 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I am very new to irc and am probably asking something that's been asked before
but I am really curious.  When I was conversing on one of the channels I used
the whois command to find out who people were and it worked for everyone but
one person.  I know I typed it in correctly, but when I typed it for this one
person it appeared on the screen - can anyone tell me why?  

Thanx,

-Julie
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.flame,alt.useless.piece.of.dribble.from.irc
From: thecure@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (the cure)
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: *die* monitor.ece.uiuc.edu
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 08:16:13 GMT

In <26573@life.ai.mit.edu> gwydion@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer) writes:

>In article <9220819.18246@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (the cure) writes:
>>Can someone explain "exactly" why monitor.ece.uiuc.edu is on the net.
>>
>>Apparently it's just to take stats. This is easily done with an automated bot.

>It is?  Would you care to write the aforementioned automated bot?  A
>server will automatically receive all appropriate messages; all the
>monitor code has to do is to receive it.  The same is not true for
>a bot.

Yes, I would care to write the aforementioned bot. Wait, hang about.
I have. Silly me, it was so trivial I forgot. It's been used by avalon
and phone now for a while, and I post the odd stat thing here from it as were..

What wrong with getting the bot to do this..

[1] nick statbot
[2] user blah blah blah blah
[3] links * *
[4] (collect all the links)
[5] search for '*' in the collection
[6] links '*.whatever' '*.whatever'     (ie - do a links from the the machine *)
[7] repeat from 4 until no more '*' in the collection


>>I am only whinging, cause it hangs when you try and do any server stuff with it.
>>
>>(ie - /stats L monitor.ece.uiuc.edu does nothing.)

>It doesn't hang; the message is transmitted.  Only monitor doesn't
>care, so it sends no messages back.  Ever telnetted to a server,

"so it sends no messages back" - Duh - I forgot, I am meant to be 
psychic ain't I? Like, when I say "Do you do anything" , and I
don't get anything back, it's stupid of me to think that it's hanging
right? I mean, shit, where do I get off thinking that it has worked
when there is NO visable evidence it has. (like, umm, oh christ,
it's not even worth bothering to explain this one. - If you killed
someone because they were idle (ie - THEY DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE DOING
ANYTHING) - I spose that "would be justified"?

The initial point I tried to make with the server listings.

THERE ARE A LOT OF SERVERS ON THE NET THAT SERVER LITTLE OR NO PURPOSE.

This server is just such one of them. It server -nothing- to the
irc community that is needed. Your server that it hangs off
may well be justified (I haven't looked it up) - but this
doover does nothing.

blah blah blah ,etc, etc, etc.

>pretending to be a server yourself, and send /notify messages back
>to people who /trace you?  Quite interesting, actually.  One has
>to be a fast typist - or a good programmer.  However, that is a
>side note - monitor is  just a receptacle for messages, it has no
>reason to respond.

>Gwydion.

Yeah, no shit.

--



                            Always question authority.
From: ed.beaulieu@madness.network23.com (Ed Beaulieu) 
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: MODE CHANGE
Date: 22 Aug 92 09:04:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: ed.beaulieu@madness.network23.com (Ed Beaulieu) 

        Can anybody explain what Mode Change means? I see it ALL the
time, but still have yet to figure out what it is, or who is doing it!
                                                                                                                    
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mta@cs.tut.fi (J{rvinen Markku)
Subject: Re: Thecure apology (part I)
Organization: Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland.
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed below are writers own.
	<1992Aug22.230257.639@ifi.uio.no>
Peruutus: Mielipiteet ovat omiani.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 01:00:45 GMT

>>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 1992 23:02:57 GMT, oysteint@ifi.uio.no (\ystein Tvedten) said:
\ystein> #hotsex is the most stupid, idiotic and braindead channel on IRC, except maybe
\ystein> for #42

What is wrong with #42, I kinda like it.

	- mta
--
From: Markku.Savela@tel.vtt.fi (Markku Savela)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: The shit (server upgrade).
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:11:55 GMT
	<1992Aug12.121026.29554@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
Reply-To: savela@tel.vtt.fi (Markku Savela)
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland

In article <1992Aug12.121026.29554@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> tom@bim.itc.univie.ac.at (Tom Kovar) writes:

>  Keep cool, Ruben. Do you want to join those who like to forget IRC is just
>a toy? I've thought it be your opinion, too. Hvis du vil kjempe mot dumheten,

  I never considered IRC as a toy. Some users may *USE* IRC like a
  toy, but IRC can be and is used as a real tool/service on the
  Internet.  Unfortunately, the "IRC is toy" faction seems to be
  gaining ground (one of the reasons I have stopped running servers
  myself).

  Real internet conferencing will most likely come outside the current
  IRC "community", which is kind of sad. I still maintain, that the
  experience gained from IRC is valuable. This includes both technical
  and social aspects, positive (what we did right) and negative (what
  we did wrong) aspects in both areas.
--
Markku Savela (savela@tel.vtt.fi), Technical Research Centre of Finland
Telecommunications Laboratory, Otakaari 7 B, SF-02150 ESPOO, Finland
From: doctor@watson (Bao-Phac Do (doctor zero))
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: (Bad Link?)
Date: 15 Aug 92 09:07:29 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, lab. INFO

In article <1992Aug12.070257.2452@ctr.columbia.edu> dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.034131.6638@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> mike@Turing.ORG (Michael M. Chapman) writes:
>

[ drivel deleted ]

>But you're right ... this 'Bad link?' thing had me baffled; It certainly
>*seemed* that you could disrupt our links ... but I had also guessed that any
>similar sort of tcp-ip weakness would have had been fixed long ago.  It seemed
>more likely (to me, anyways) that somebody had a trojan in the ircd code, or
>perhaps found some other sort of bug in it (I knew the bug wasn't in ircII, as
>I tried logging in raw, and it still happened ...)

nope nope nope. it's not at the ircd level since when 4D (g.a.l.)
disconnected me from IRC, he also disconnected my rlogins.  so it's a
tcp-ip kinda thingie problem.

I was on a SUN.

d0c
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Re: Servers and clients and software oh my!
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:53:14 GMT

Karl> == Karl Denninger <kdenning@portal.hq.videocart.com> 

 Karl> Hi folks,

 Karl> We're on the Internet with a capital "I", and looking for both a
 Karl> server connection and the current sources.

 Karl> I have old musty sources for both server and client, but
 Karl> obviously those would be obsolete by now ;-)

 Karl> Pointers appreciated.

Note: for server connection requests, *please* mail
operlist-request@eff.org -- this kind of traffic doesn't belong in
alt.irc


--
Helen Trillian Rose             	email eff@eff.org for EFF info
Electronic Frontier Foundation   	irc operators: operlist@eff.org
Systems and Networks Administration	Flames to: 
<hrose@eff.org, hrose@cs.bu.edu>	women-not-to-be-messed-with@eff.org
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: cs911089@ariel.yorku.ca (JASON H KELTZ)
Subject: Argh!
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 13:50:22 GMT

I just finished sending a really long reply to that individual who was
requesting help on mode changes.  I thought I had posted it publically
so that I could help anyone else who needed help with mode changes, and
I just realized that I used "R" instead of "F" to reply, and I didn't
even send myself A CC! :(  .. Oh well .. If ya need any help with mode
changes, ask him! :)

Jason.
(AKA Kangaman)
From: cerebus@cs.bu.edu (Timothy Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Is sachz male or female ?
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:32:04 GMT
	<BtC4Jq.H0J@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <BtC8Mz.5sM@cs.dal.ca>
Organization: Boston University Knights of the Lambda Calculus
In-reply-to: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca's message of 21 Aug 92 14:37:46 GMT

In article <> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:

   In <BtC4Jq.H0J@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
   >How about 'alt.people.too.clueless.to.understand.their.editors' ?
   >Come back when you understand "delete-line".

>   Then there's the ever possible newsgroup
>   alt.jackass.who.thinks.he.is.respected
>   alt.matt.is.an.irc.reject

>   Man, I must be one of the only people who hasn't killfiled you yet.
>   Your posts are almost as useless as mine for crying out loud. 

	*You* said it.  I didn't.  *You* did.  All by yourself.

>								But,
>   we all know there's one difference between you and I. No, I'm not
>   referring to your sub-human intelligence. 

	Ooh!  *Great* shot!  Now, quick, while he's down, kick him!

>					I'm referring to the
>   fact that you actually care about irc. 

	Oh!  Flub shot!  Try again.

>					Face it man. You and your
>   computer are bonded like no husband and wife, and I suggest you 
>   take a break from you computers. 

	Does that mean he's *not* bonded like a husband and wife?  Ask
only for information.

>					Your little dorky posts of critique
>   serve no purpose and only backfire. 

	As compared to, say, some of the absolutely *stellar* peices of
critique that flow trippingly from your pen?

>					The initial guy had a good point,
>   and I figure his post (all 400+ lines) was less of a waste of bandwidth
>   then your first sentence. 

	Well, considering that Matt was replying to a reply to an
article, where the first reply cited all 400+ lines of the original
article simply in order to add 10 lines of his own.  Personally, I think
Matt has a point.

>				Perhaps they should stop giving computer
>   accounts out to grade school students...

	And to you.

-- Cerebus <cerebus@csa.bu.edu>
"Sometimes you meet some *truly* strange people."
From: 00rdcary@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Server request
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:00:00 GMT

How Does one get the material to make a Server.. I have a Client 
software and I wanted to set up a server..
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Subject: Bug...I hope you fixed it cause here it is!
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:01:20 GMT

Dear Readers,

	Last Tuesday, a note was sent to 99% of server administrators
about a bug which had been discovered.  It was recommened in that email
that they upgrade ASAP by either applying the 2.7.2f_to_2.7.2g patch
file or getting the new package deal.  Some interesting things resulted,
some servers upgraded, others did nothing, some complained about bugs,
some email addresses bounced and some email addreses didnt even match
the domain/net the server was in (enough has been said on this already).

	It has been long enough (given that it is summer 'up there') for
people to apply it, I am pretty sure I made the situation quite clear
about how urgent the matter was.

	For those who dont know, cast your minds back to the ^G channel
bug which haunted people for a while.  Due to the inaction of some and
actions of others, I've decided to let you all in on the big secret.

If you do "JOIN #channelwhichdontexist,#channelwhichdoes" you will get
chanop on both channels, provided you can join them both.
Of course, you can string 10 channels in 1 JOIN command.

	This and some other problem commands such as "WHOIS *" have
been neutered (thanks to Kaizzu for suggestion on WHOIS fix) in the
latest patch and release.

	Hopefully now some more people will get off their butts.

	The patchfile and irc2.7.2g.tar.Z should now be available in
the regular places to look for IRC releases.

Avalon

p.s. all flames and comments about bugs, etc >/dev/null
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Thecure apology (part I)
Date: 22 Aug 92 21:14:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University

kjp49113@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Aurik of Westhampton) writes:

>thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (the cure) writes:


>>I posted this to my IRC admin, and unix admin earlier today.
>>---------------------------------------------------------------

>>You may get mail (I know danielce has already) regarding things 
>>I did today on IRC. After a lengthy discussion, others and myself
>>have decided what I did was the wrong thing, for which I am
>>apologetic. 

>It was the "wrong" thing to do?  You just now realized that?

Actually, whether it is or not is debateable.
Perhaps its not a very curteous thing to do (flies in the face of
'established' netequitte).

>>I shan't be repeating these actions again, and I intend to 
>>apologise to all people involved if I am given the chance.

>You won't be repeating these actions again, you say?  You sure repeated them
>enough that night...

>>Let me assure you, I will not be visiting the mentioned channel
>>again .

>Hey, man, face it... You f***ed up!  There are a slew of ppl that were on
>the channel (#hotsex) who would be more than happy to see you lose your irc
>privs and/or your account.  Personally, I think that you are just sucking up
>to your IRC admin because you're trying to save your account.  (Yes, I WAS
>one of those ppl who sent your IRC admin mail).

I also heard stories of lots of people doing MODE hacks to get chanop back
on #hotsex. They fucked up too and if there was a log there'd be more guilty
people than thecure.

>Yes, you're right!  You won't be visiting that channel again.  Because if 
>we happen to see your face on there, there are at least half a dozen ppl that
>would be overjoyed to kick you and ban you. 

Well I always wondered if #hotsex really was the centre of all low life
on IRC, I guess this confirms any doubts held by anyone.

avalon
From: pakst5@ganymede.ee.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: help on irc !!
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:34:43 GMT
Reply-To: pakst5@ganymede.ee.pitt.edu ()
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept., Univ. of Pittsburgh


Hi

 I am at UPitt, and I tried 'irc -p6667 nickname cm22.eng.umd.edu'.
After that, I couldn't even join any channel. ?? Am I doing anything
wrong ? If so, can anyone give me an introduction on how to use 
access an irc server ?

thanks.
paul
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: kjp49113@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Aurik of Westhampton)
Subject: Re: Thecure apology (part I)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:44:39 GMT

thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (the cure) writes:


>I posted this to my IRC admin, and unix admin earlier today.
>---------------------------------------------------------------

>You may get mail (I know danielce has already) regarding things 
>I did today on IRC. After a lengthy discussion, others and myself
>have decided what I did was the wrong thing, for which I am
>apologetic. 

It was the "wrong" thing to do?  You just now realized that?

>I shan't be repeating these actions again, and I intend to 
>apologise to all people involved if I am given the chance.

You won't be repeating these actions again, you say?  You sure repeated them
enough that night...

>Let me assure you, I will not be visiting the mentioned channel
>again .

Hey, man, face it... You f***ed up!  There are a slew of ppl that were on
the channel (#hotsex) who would be more than happy to see you lose your irc
privs and/or your account.  Personally, I think that you are just sucking up
to your IRC admin because you're trying to save your account.  (Yes, I WAS
one of those ppl who sent your IRC admin mail).

Yes, you're right!  You won't be visiting that channel again.  Because if 
we happen to see your face on there, there are at least half a dozen ppl that
would be overjoyed to kick you and ban you. 



Ken Platz
Aurik@uiuc.edu
From: amos@prl.dec.com (Samos)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: HELLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPP !
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:29:31 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory

I'm in Paris, and I'd like to connect to IRC.
If someome could help me..
in Mail if possible..
Merci.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: kjp49113@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Aurik of Westhampton)
Subject: Re: Thecure apology (part I)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:23:50 GMT

oysteint@ifi.uio.no (\ystein Tvedten) writes:


>In article <BtEHIG.3D9@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, kjp49113@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Aurik of Westhampton) writes:
>> thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (the cure) writes:
>> 
>> Hey, man, face it... You f***ed up!  There are a slew of ppl that were on
>> the channel (#hotsex) who would be more than happy to see you lose your irc
>> privs and/or your account.  Personally, I think that you are just sucking up
>> to your IRC admin because you're trying to save your account.  (Yes, I WAS
>> one of those ppl who sent your IRC admin mail).
>> 

>This because something happened on #hotsex ?? 
>SOMEONE REALLY NEEDS TO GET A FUCKING LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>#hotsex is the most stupid, idiotic and braindead channel on IRC, except maybe
>for #42

>THHHHHHHHHHHBBBBBBBBBBBTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

No, this is NOT because it happened on #hotsex.  It is because it happened.  I 
do not care who you are, if you are going to kick users from a channel, you had
better have a good reason.  If you are going to hack an op on a channel, that's
ok, if you have a legitimate reason to.  But, I don't know what you classify as
a "good reason," but I do not think the cure's reason qualifies as such.  Face
it, he was just doing this because A) He wanted to see what he could get away
with, B) To annoy everyone else beyond belief, or a combination of the two.

Listen, what I do on IRC is _MY_ business.  Hey, if you don't want to join a
channel, that's your prerogative.  But who are you to say that I need to get
a life?  You do not know me PERIOD.  Just because I choose to spend a portion
of my time on the #hotsex channel does not automatically justify you telling me
I have no life.  

>> Yes, you're right!  You won't be visiting that channel again.  Because if 
>> we happen to see your face on there, there are at least half a dozen ppl that
>> would be overjoyed to kick you and ban you. 

>DORKHEAD!!!!!!!

Dorkhead.  How elegant.  If you are going to spend the time to edit a posting,
don't you think that you can at least find something useful to say?


Kenneth Platz
Aurik@uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: paul@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO)
Subject: Re: Bug...I hope you fixed it cause here it is!
Reply-To: Paul-Pomes@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:20:11 GMT

avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:

>	Hopefully now some more people will get off their butts.

Yup, perhaps it's time to delete irc from our systems.  Still the bug
only affects irc users so what the hey?

>p.s. all flames and comments about bugs, etc >/dev/null

Flaming would imply that I took all this seriously.  It's not worth the
effort.

/pbp
-- 
"A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the People to keep and read Books shall not be infringed."
	-- J. Neil Schulman
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mespinos@spock.NMSU.Edu (Michael C Espinosa)
Subject: valkor is back
Keywords: valkor II -  electric boogaloo throttle
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:39:20 GMT

i'm back.....hehe
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Subject: Re: *** Closing Link: DemoN[dopey.cc.utexas.edu] DemoN (Bad link?)
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:22:48 GMT

mike@Turing.ORG (Michael M. Chapman) writes:

[...]
>Furthermore, channels like #hotsex and #hottub and whatever other sick 
>sexual deviant congregations are on there, are full (obviously) of people
>who for the most part don't even have the vaguest hint of to do anything
>but load IRC... it's probably most of their login shells for that matter. They
>get on to relieve their social/sexual/romantic/etc disfunctions and waste
>everyone's money and time.

They have no more right to use bandwidth than the lamers who place themselves
on #hack do.  And on occasion, I'm pretty sure that #hack has the lowest
level of conversation on IRC and thats the channel you are mostly on.


[...]
>nothing new and nothing you will likely ever understand.  Demon, you need to
>go back to your child pornography or whatever kept you from hacking up young
>boys and eating them before you found IRC.
>-- 

They should worry because it is something that can be fixed and should be
fixed.  And maybe you should get a life.

Bye!

<off to life>

avalon
From: gsa@alcor.concordia.ca ( CON U GRADUATE STUDENTS' ASSOC )
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Robots.
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:12:18 GMT
Distribution: alt.irc
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

Can anyone tell me where I can find information about
creating a robot on IRC?