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From: vijay@jessica.Stanford.EDU (vijay mehrotra)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: SF Lodgings
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:44:15 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@jessica.Stanford.EDU (vijay mehrotra)
Organization: Stanford University


In article <b2gQ02mA1eT601@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> you write:
>   Friends of my girlfriend are coming out to visit for the Labor Day 
>weekend, but are arriving mid-week (Sep 02).  They already made reservations 
>somewhere in SF (don't know where) but it's costing them $100/nite.
>
>   Can anyone recommend places in San Francisco that are a bit less (but 
>not sleazy =) ).  I've only been in the Bay Area a couple months, so I 
>don't know too much more than they do.
>
>   Any help is appreciated.
>   Email or post here is fine.

I had some visitors a couple of months back who stayed at a place
called HOTEL DAVID in the theater district in SF.  It cost them 
$80/night, which included breakfast and was in an excellent location
as far as getting to a lot of things in the city.

I also have heard great things about a B&B on Nob Hill
which is run by some ex-world traveller types and is 
supposed to be delightful.  It is called The Golden Gate
hotel, their number is (800) 835-1118, and they are again
in about the $70-85 price range.

Good luck,

Vijay


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From: csb58666@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (James R. MacCrimmon     )
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: fearful of taking undeveloped film thru X-ray
Summary: Don't want to destroy film
Keywords: Traveling by plane-
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:41:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In ten days time I am going to fulfill my lifelong dream of going to the
UK.  I will be traveling, by plane, from O'Hare Airport in Chicago
to Glascow Airport in Scotland.  I am taking with me twelve rolls of
unexposed Kodak 400 film.  My question is, will taking the film through
the metal detector, or theough the airport X-ray, damage or destroy my
film?

Anther question:
I am taking with me about two-hundred compact disks--These HAVE to be manually
searched, obviously.  Will airport security allow me to just let security
physically inspect the CDs?

I need procedure for both O'Hare and Glascow airport since I'll be flying
back in December.

Thank you VERY VERY MUCH.


Chad S. Beckett
csb58666@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
"I dreamt about you last night, and I fell out of bed twice" -The Smiths
From: bookbind@cfa.harvard.edu (Jay Bookbinder)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Zambia/Tanzania Info Request
Date: 15 Aug 92 05:17:11 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

Hello,

  My wife and I are heading to Zambia and Tanzania for about three
weeks.  Most of that time will be spent in the bush, rather than the
cities.  We were wondering if anyone has suggestions for particular
items to bring along for trade/tipping that would be appreciated. For
example, since we are from the New England area, one possibility would
be small containers of maple syrup, which would probably be quite a
novelty there. Another, though somewhat bulkier, item would be small
frisbees. We have a general preference not to bring cigarettes, since
they aren't particularly healthy.

 Does anyone have any other ideas? Our thanks in advance for your
help!!

 Jay and Laurie


-- 

Jay Bookbinder			++ INTERNET: bookbind@cfa.harvard.edu
Center for Astrophysics		++ Phone (617) 495-7058
60 Garden St.		 	++ FAX (617) 495-7356
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross)
Subject: Re: fearful of taking undeveloped film thru X-ray
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Brock University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 01:09:29 GMT

nalin@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (Nalin Whatyamacallit) writes:
: >: is there any reason film should NOT be in checked baggage?
: >
: >Definitely do not take your film through the X-ray.  The effects on film are
: >accumulative, and more sensitive film is affected faster.  Give the film to
: >the attendant before putting any baggage through the machine.  I speak as
: >someone who has had many rolls of films ruined by X-rays.
:  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: Me too.  Never put undeveloped film in checked baggage.  Never heard of lost
: luggage :-) and checked baggage is often x-rayed without the shielding
: available on the carry-on x-rays.  (ie. not film safe) It's the cummulative
: effect of the radiation that is most harmful.  Take the film out of the black
: cannisters (if Kodak) and put them in zip-loc bags.  As long as it's see
: through you should have no problems with asking security to avoid x-rays.
: Have a lead lined film shield bag just in case security refuses.
: 
: Another useful thing is to keep the box label of a 1600 ASA (Fuji) or 3200
: (Konica) on your camera body so it will be hand searched.  Security may make
: you expose one frame to show the shutter functions.  (Except in Israel)

Actually, a fool-proof way of avoiding all these hassles is to buy
your film at your destination, have your exposed film developed there,
and take back or mail home the developed prints.  Of course, this depends
on your destination, and whether you are using exotic film that cannot be
bought there.

-- 
Brian Ross                         "At the end of the day, all money gets you
bross@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca     is a better place to watch television."
                                    -- Dana Carvey
From: kinch@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kinch Malapitan)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:52:54 GMT
Subject: Re: restaurants in New Orleans?
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.travel

The address of Central Grocery is 923 Decatur St.; phone is (504) 523-1620...
And yes, the Muffaletta is one of the best sandwiches I've ever had so don't
forget to try one...
From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: San Francisco Sightseeing
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:39:54 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


Yes, the Legion of Honor is closed, but the GGNRA (of which Lincoln Park
is a part) has great trails, vista points and beaches.  Well worth a
visit!
From: grob@opera.chorus.fr (Lori Grob)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: HELP! PARIS INFO NEEDED!
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:27:58 GMT
Reply-To: mg@chorus.fr
Organization: Chorus systemes, 6 av. Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines, France

In article <92225.170115RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET>, RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET writes:
%% Whilst generally I agree that Paris is safer than some European cities
%% (and much much safer than virtually any US city) I would urge caution on
%% travelling on the metro or RATP late at night. I only saw one incident
%% on one occasion, but most friends and colleagues there have told me that it
%% can be dangerous.
%% However having read the original posting I fail to see why the overall concern.
%% Do European cities receive such bad 'press' in American media ?
%% R A Flood

The last metro is at roughly 1am and many buses 
stop around 9 or 10pm, although there are a few that go to mid-night 
or 1am and one or two only which run all night, so taking the 
metro and the buses late at night is not usually an option.

I can only imagine that it must depend on where you are going
since I take the metro and buses all over central Paris 
at night and have rarely seen a problem. And the problems
I saw were beggers or drunks not violence. However some of the
commuter lines coming in to the city late at night can be a bit
isolated. I don't mean to imply that problems are non-existent,
but I personally have had more unpleasantness with cab drivers
wanting to get friendly (if you catch my drift), or who thought
I was a tourist and presented me with what they claimed were 
the "rules", than I ever had in the Metro or on a bus. And
even these were the tiny exception. Also, if its a consolation
the people I work with assure me that it wasn't my accent
that caused the problems with the couple of cab drivers,
they are just as difficult to native Parisiens.

I think that most people who live here feel safe to walk
around or go central Paris day and night, bearing in mind
that it is a big city. This is not a claim that can be made
everywhere. 

Almost everyone who lives here or lived here can remember
times of staying at dinner or some event until after the metro
closed and then having to walk across Paris in the wee hours
to get home. 

-- 
L.S. Grob
Chorus syste`mes			phone +33-1-30-64-82-17
6 avenue Gustave Eiffel			fax   +33-1-30-57-00-66	
F78182 Saint Quentin-en-Yvelines	email grob@chorus.fr	
FRANCE					      grob%chorus.fr.uunet.uu.net
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From: zxmkg01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Klug)
Subject: GUAM (Micronesia) info *WANTED*
Keywords: GUAM,INFO
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:31:04 GMT



Hi everyone !
*************

I'm planning a trip to GUAM (Micronesia) this december and have
*NO IDEA* what to do there (amusement,sight-seeing etc.) or where
to stay.

So everybody who already has been there should mail me his/her
advice or mail me addresses of tourist information centers.

Thank you in advance ....
--
Michael Klug      zxmkg01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de
G i v e  p e a c e  a  c h a n c e
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: pkramer@unlinfo.unl.edu (Paul Kramer)
Subject: How to see Seattle cheap?
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:00:58 GMT

Howdy.

I am going to Seattle for Thanksgiving weekend.  Not for any 
particular reason either.  I am doing it on the cheap.  The flight is 
cheap and I have my Youth Hostel membership card.  Thus I am staying 
at the downtown Youth Hostel for $13.00 a night or so.  I plan on 
seeing Seattle without using a car.  I have read some of the travel 
summaries I have seen posted about Seattle. I think I can keep myself 
busy.

I welcome any opinions.  Can I really see Seattle without a car?  Is 
the mass transit decent? 

Thanks.

Paul
From: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Help with hotels in Venice
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:04:26 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Originator: asanders@sparta

| Do not take the hotel in Venice: they are crowded, expensive, 
| often in bad shape,... Go to Padova: it's half an hour of train 
| away,... far from the crowd in Venice.

		-Furio Ercolessi

I visited Venice for the first time two years ago, in September.
Despite the crowds, the expense, the deterioration (and everything
else negative that one inevitably hears about Venice)--Venice 
was for me one of the most special places I have ever visited.
And I think alot of its charm has to do with the absence of
motorized traffic, the presence of water everywhere... A few
days in this atmosphere has a very soothing effect.

Personally, I think it would be a pity to come to Venice only
to stay half an hour away--to awaken each morning to the bustle
of city traffic, to have to ride the train... For me, it was 
wonderful just BEING in Venice. What a shock Florence was after 
five days in Venice!

It's true that hotels are generally expensive and some are not
so well kept. My wife and I stayed at a small hotel called
La Residenza, located about ten minutes walk from San Marco.
It was reasonably priced (about $80 two years ago), very well
kept, nicely decorated. The only negative was the location,
which was on a very small town square where locals walked
and talked into the wee hours of the morning. And as soon 
as everyone had finally gone to bed, the vendors would arrive
to open the corrugated metal doors of their stalls. This
made quite a noise! But then, I am VERY sensitive to noise.
I HATE big cities, and I could never live where most people
live (near busy streets, etc. etc.). So I expect the level
of disturbance wasn't nearly as bad, in objective terms,
as it seemed to me. I would still recommend this hotel.
It was certainly a bargain for Venice.

By the way, I found this hotel in the Michelin red guide.
Finding an available room can be difficult, but there seemed
to be a number of reasonably-priced hotels to choose from.

					-Alan
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Subject: Thanks to the Britrail experts
Originator: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:27:50 GMT

		Thanks to the Britrail experts

	This is to thank the numerous people who replied.
	One last question-is the "official" British Railways timetable
available anywhere in North America? Our library does have Thomas Cook's
timetable which covers most of the details which one would want, but it does
not seem to cover less important places like Stevenage.
	I checked with the Britrail International office at Toronto, but they
said that the timetable is only available in Britain.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: 6175190@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: EAASY SABRE usage hints?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:28:29 GMT

>I got hooked up to EAASY SABRE, the American Airlines reservation
>system, through Compuserve, and use it check out fares and schedules.
>If you are unfamiiar with EAASY SABRE, you needn't bother with the
>remainder of this message.
>
STUFF DELETED

>Does a good user's guide exist, preferably one not published by AA?
>
>Please reply by email: alan@metasoft.com
>
>-alan

I, too have access to this great looking service (on America-on-Line and Prodig
y) but have gotten lost in the use of it.  I would appreciate it if replys
were posted to this newsgroup.
125 Cambridgepark Dr
Thanks,
Diane
From: 21329BJ@MSU
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: CocoCay - Bahamas
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:47:54 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: nev@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (nancy.e.ellard-vass)
Subject: CocoCay - Bahamas
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:49:47 GMT

>I'm taking a cruise in a few weeks on Royal Caribbean's
>Soverign of the Seas. Due to problems in Haiti they have
>changed that destination of the trip to CocoCay. This is a private
>island owned by Royal Caribbean.

>Has anyone been to this island? I have looked through all of
>my literature, and can't locate any info on this island.

>Any info would be greatly appreciated.

>Nancy
>att!hoqax!nev

Norwegian Cruise Lines owns one of these, and it isn't on any map.  I be-
lieve it is called Great Stirrup Cay, and all that was on it was at RCA in-
stallation and the snorkeling hut for their "Dive-In" program.  You may
miss the shopping opportunities in Haiti, but you'll probably get a nice
beach, snorkeling and safety!

--Barb
908-949-5679
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Subject: Any Britrail experts out there?
Originator: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:57:30 GMT

		Any Britrail experts out there?

PROBLEM: To travel from Vancouver to Bradford.

SOLUTION #1: Fly to Manchester, take a train to Bradford
SOLUTION #2: Fly to Heathrow, take tube to King's Cross, and IC to Bradford.
	     If nothing direct is available, take an IC to Leeds and change
	     to a local there.
SOLUTION #3: Fly to Heathrow, take a bus to Stevenage, and take northbound
	     IC from there as in #2.

	The choice between #1 and #2/#3 depends on the relative air fares
to Manchester and Heathrow. My question relates to option 3. Does anyone
know about the frequencies of buses to Stevenage? Do they go to the
railway station or somewhere else? More importantly, do the ICs to Leeds
and Bradford stop at Stevenage? This information was not given in Thomas
Cook's timetable.
	Thanks in advance.
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Thursday, 20 Aug 1992 11:17:43 CET
From: <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject:    The British - Advice for Visitors to the UK

Four different species make up the British People:
- The Scots, who keep the Sabbath - and everything else they can lay
  their hands on;
- The Welsh, who prey on their knees - and their neighbours;
- The Irish, who don't know what the devil they want, but are willing
  to die for it;
- and the English, who consider themselves a race of self-made men,
  thereby relieving the Almighty of a dreadful responsibility.

(Source: Spectrum College Magazine, Nov 1968)

My father just sent me this - from England. At least we Brits can
laugh at ourselves !
RaF
Xref: sparky rec.travel:11777 soc.culture.french:5811
From: fturi@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (TURI Francois)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Paris - Paleaseau
Keywords: France
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:13:31 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <1992Aug13.220318.24075@walter.bellcore.com>, enis@thumper..bellcore.com (A. Enis Cetin) writes:
> 
> I will be visiting Ecole Polytechnique in Paleaseau next
> month. How far is Paleaseau from Paris ? How can I get
> to Paleaseau from Paris ? 

        Si ma memoire est bonne, Palaiseau se trouve juste a cote d'Orsay (La
ville d'Orsay et non le fameux musee) et Polytechnique doit etre sur le plateau.
Orsay est une ville universitaire a 30 km plein sud de Paris. Pour y acceder il 
faut prendre le R.E.R. direction Massy-Palaiseau-St Remy-les chevreuese ligne B.
Ce R.E.R. joint l'aeroport Charles de Gaulle au Nord de Paris jusqu'a St Remy.
        Je crois que polytechnique se trouve sur le plateau d'Orsay (la ville se
 trouve dans la valee de la chevreuse entouree de colline).
        Normalement les stations de R.E.R. : Le Guichet-Orsay-Palaiseau se 
touchent et peut etre que Palaiseau n'est pas la station R.E.R. la plus proche de polytechnique !. Renseignes toi donc.

        If my i could trust my memory, Palaiseau should be near Orsay.
Basicaly you have to take R.E.R. B to the University of Orsay (It's about 40
 minutes and 30 km: South of Paris). At Orsay, Polytechnique is at 3 km, near Supelec (E.S.E).
        But maybe I confused Polytechnique with an other university ...

        Anyway, enjoy your visit !

        (For anuymore in english, ask me! I'll tried )


________________________________________________________________________________
Francois TURI is:

        fturi@undegrad.math.waterloo.edu

Les fautes de frappes                           Please Be nice,
sont helas courantes...                         English is not my mother tongue

                        University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

"Et le singe devint con ..."           CAVANA

"L'intelligence artificielle remplace bien souvent la connerie naturelle"
                                (avis personnel)
________________________________________________________________________________
From: rog@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Roger Haaheim)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:54:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Oldest Restaurants In America/World
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.travel

There is supposed to be a small cafe in Minnesota near the town of Kensington
where they served lutefisk to the viking explorers who had to order the
special gravy from a menu carved in a stone...runic characters I think...











































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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jzh2485@zeus.tamu.edu (HINTON, JOHNNY ZANE)
Subject: Cruising th Caribbean
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  
	Well, my wife finally talked me into going on a cruise.  We are
	set to go on a cruise on the M S Westerdam (Holland America) 
	from Feb 6-13 1993.  My questions are:
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:01:00 GMT

	Anyone else been on this boat and willing to share their 
		experience?
	Stops include 1 - San Juan, Puerto Rico; 2 - Tortola and 
	Virgin Gorda; 3 - St Thomas; Nassau Bahamas So tell me what
	should I do and see / experience at these site.
	I want to scuba some where is best?
	Nay other experience I should know about?

	All assistance is appreciated.

			 Regards, John Z.
			 jzh2485@zeus.tamu.edu	
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From: koops@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Luke Koops)
Subject: Shopping in Washington, D.C.
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Distribution: us
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:35:54 GMT
Keywords: Washington, D.C., Maryland, Virginia, Shopping 


Hi!
Starting August 24th, I am going to be in Washington D.C. for a few days, and
I'd like to do some shopping.  Are there any good factory shoe outlets?
Are there any unique stores or attractions that are a must-see?  Please send
answers via e-mail.

Thanks for your suggestions,

Kelly              
koops@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
(using a friend's account)
-- 
*****
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kester@mte.ncsu.edu (Dan Kester)
Subject: Re: Travel Scam?? "FREE vacat
Organization: Mat. Sci. & Eng., NCSU
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:40:15 GMT


> I need some info / experiences on a company called EXCEL travel,
> which called to tell me that I won a vacation package to the Bahamas
> (5days/4nights) and Orlando (4dys,3nghts). Transportation to Florida
> is NOT included, and neither is food during the stays.  A boat-trip
> to the Bahamas from Florida (with food) is included as is a
> membership with Excel travel ( a company based in Deerfield Beach,
> Fla).
> 
> The cost, for two would be $398 Canadian.  They wanted a credit card
> number over the phone and I initially refused. Has anyone had any
> similar "free" trip offers?
>
All the time.  This is one of the biggest scams going on.  You have not won
anything!  At best you can buy a trip at not too much more than you could get
it for at a local travel agent.  At worst, you will have paid for a
"membership" or trip of some sort  only to see the company disappear (with your
money) in a couple of weeks.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: blenk@cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Blenk)
Subject: Re: Staying in Prague(Youth hotels etc.)
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:39:41 GMT

In article <a2824ag.713715681@sun3> a2824ag@sun3.LRZ-Muenchen.DE () writes:

> Hi
> 
> I'm going to Prague for a few days at the end of the month. 
> I'm still young enough to stay in youth hostels etc. Should
> I just go & find accomodation when I get there, or will this
> be a crazy thing to do. Any recommendations concerning cheap
> hotels etc appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
Don^t panic! You won^t have any problems finding a place to stay. A
lot of people living in Prague are renting rooms to get some money.
(If you arrive by train: there it is no problem to meet someone, who
tries to offer accommodation).
The prices don^t differ that much, you have to pay about 20 DM (it^s
usual to pay accommodation in DM) for a room with bath and breakfast.

Have fun!

Udo