HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Phil Gustafson hunts whales? (was Re: Drug on the market
Date: 25 Jan 1993 07:03:25 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
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Picking up alertly on phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson)'s Freudian slip:

  +> A resonable speculation.  Back when we hunted whales from open boats,
  +                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   [Other details of Phil's life deleted.]

  +> Phil "90% dna-compatible with whales" Gustafson

willie@willow38.cray.com (William Lewis) writes:
  +
  +Sigh.  Another illusion shattered.  I'd pictured Phil as a kind, '90s sort
  +of guy.  Now we learn that he hunts whales!  Club any baby seals lately?

You're pretty much there.  Only except he's a kind, 1890s sort of
guy.  Maybe he figures that since he's 90% DNA compatible anyway, 
why bother with the rest?
  
  +ObRequestForInfo:  The FAQ mentions a nuclear reaction in Africa sometime in
  +       the distant past.  Could someone point me toward more information on
  +       this.  I don't think it was Zog Fermi's reactor melting-down.

Back when Cindy was first alive, ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) 
obliged with the following references: 

 +The following are a few references that I found on the Oklo phenomenon
 +(out of a total of 80 references) from GEOREF in the USGS Library.
 +1)  Scientific American  July 1976, vol 235, no.1, p36-47.
 +2)  New Scientist  Nov. 9, 1972, vol 56, no 819, p 342-343.
 +3)  Geotimes  1978, vol 23, no 3, p. 27-28.
 +4)  Geotimes  1975, vol 20, no 10, p. 14-16.
 +5)  Interdisciplinary Science Review  1976, vol 1, no 1, p. 72-84.
 +6)  Le phenomene d'Oklo - The Oklo phenomenon.  1975,  Published by
 +	the International Atomic Energy Agency, Vienna. A series of papers
 +	(mostly in French) presented at a symposium in Libreville, Gabon,
 +	June 1975.


Terry "What's in a diode?" Chan
--
Energy and Environment Division   | Internet:  TWChan@lbl.gov
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Yeah, right.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Hooker revisited
Followup-To: alt.jokes.recycled
Keywords: largesse coup de grace
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:02:11 GMT

In article <199301241908.AA25565@jjoyce.unx.sas.com> sasbmt@unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>Uncle John's Bathroom Reader has a compromise answer to the "hooker"
>etymological puzzle that [motto alert] sounds plausible.  While
>admitting that the word was used as slang for "whore" before the 
>American Civil War (as the OED says), the association of whores with
>General Joseph Hooker may have given the term more widespread
>popularity.  Uncle John says people began referring to prostitutes
>in Washington as "Hooker's Division."

In French, of course, these ladies are called "hors de combat".

Phil "Ecologically Correct" Gustafson
-- 
|play: phil@rahul.net
|work: (Under Construction)              | Phil Gustafson 408-286-1749      |
|         Opinions outside attributed material are mine alone.              |
|        Satirical matter is not necessarily identified as such.            |
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From: bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Subject: Pennsylvania Ave 
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:16:35 GMT

During some of the fine, in-depth, network coverage of the
inauguration, the question of how Pennsylvania Ave was named
came up. One anchor, basing his answer on the fact that he's
a D.C. resident, stated that it was named to appease
Pennsylvania residents when the capital was moved from
Philadelphia to Washington.

Who want to be the first to challenge (or defend) this? The
line starts on the left.

----
Mark Bergman    (Biker, Stagehand, (former) Unix user support grunt)
718-855-9148

bergman@panix.com
{cmcl2,uunet}!panix!bergman
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From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: The Ultimate Circumcision
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:12:21 GMT

In article <hayesstw.231.728134724@risc1.unisa.ac.za> hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za (Steve Hayes) writes:
>>  Wouldn't it be more sensible just to resort
>>  to some sort of prosthetic and/or reconstructive surgery than to undergo
>>  a complete sex change?
>
>
>Something similar happened here last year, only it wasn't a circumcision. 
>Some guys into witchcraft cut of the genitals of a male child about 2 years 
>old. Normally the kids are killed, but this one survived. The doctors who 
>treated him recommended a sex-change op, and after some heistation the 
>parents agreed. 

I still don't get it.  (See above).

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From: nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Fame droppings (was Jesus' name ...)
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Fifteen-Minutes-O-Fame, Ltd.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:15:06 GMT


In <1993Jan19.192926.1257@midway.uchicago.edu>, Ted Frank writes:
|>
|>Is anyone else related to someone famous, or knows someone who is?

I know Naomi Ruth Eisenberg's brother Larry.

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From: willie@willow38.cray.com (William Lewis)
Subject: Phil Gustafson hunts whales? (was Re: Drug on the market
Originator: willie@willow38
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:31:43 CST


In article <C1Dxp7.8t9@rahul.net>, phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson) writes:
> A resonable speculation.  Back when we hunted whales from open boats,
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> a "drogue", pronounced "drug" was a plank or bucket at the end of the
> whale line, the rope fastened to the poor mammal by one or two harpoons.
> 
> The plan was to tire the beast out with minimal risk to man and boat.
> 
> Phil "90% dna-compatible with whales" Gustafson
> -- 
> |play: phil@rahul.net
> |work: (Under Construction)              | Phil Gustafson 408-286-1749      |
> |         Opinions outside attributed material are mine alone.              |
> |        Satirical matter is not necessarily identified as such.            |

Sigh.  Another illusion shattered.  I'd pictured Phil as a kind, '90s sort
of guy.  Now we learn that he hunts whales!  Club any baby seals lately?

ObUL:  There have been alligator sightings in the waters surrounding the
       castle in Disney World.  Said alligators had not had their clothes
       changed and hair dyed.

ObRequestForInfo:  The FAQ mentions a nuclear reaction in Africa sometime in
       the distant past.  Could someone point me toward more information on
       this.  I don't think it was Zog Fermi's reactor melting-down.

Willie "Will have his diodes rearranged by Phil for food" Lewis
                   
-- 
Willie Lewis                               "Aaahhhhh! Aaahhhhh! Aaahhhhh!..."
willie@cray.com                               Pink Floyd
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mike Cooper was Jesus' name (was Re: Late breaking potential UL!)
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:55:21 GMT
 <9139@news.duke.edu>
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <1993Jan21.210334.4245@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.090627.23162@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>>alt.cooper.makes.tires.
>
>I read somewhere that coopers worked with farm animals.  Are you sure
>about this tire thing?  I didn't even know they *had* tires back when

I guess I could drive up to the Cooper Tire factory somewhere
in northwest Ohio and get photos of the plant.

Jon "That's spelled 'Tire', not 'Tyre'. " Papai
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Headlight Dimmer Switch
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
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alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Lopez-Ortiz) writes:

>And as it has been pointed out many times in rec.autos.driving amber back
>turn signals should also be mandated.


Naah.  There are too many fools who leave their turn signals on while
they're sitting in front of me at night in left-turn-only lanes (What
do they think people expect them to do, go *straight up?*) where a
signal isn't necessary because their intentions are obvious, and as
they drive *all the way around* cloverleafs.   



Geoff


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From: hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za (Steve Hayes)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Aids in pizza
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:44:02 GMT
Organization: University of South Africa
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In article <1993Jan23.183000.8755@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:

>>>   HIV - HIV virus   - Human Imm.. Virus virus
>>>   ICBM - ICBM missle - Inter-Contential Balistic Missle missle
>>>   HARM - HARM missle - High Speed Anti-Radiation Missle missle (anti-radar)
>>
>>my favorite is IRA account-individual retirement account account
>
>Doesn't beat "personal PIN identification number."

What about "Declare UDI"?

Steve Hayes, Department of Missiology & Editorial Department
Univ. of South Africa, P.O. Box 392, Pretoria, 0001 South Africa
Internet: hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za
          steve.hayes@f20.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
From: pjswan@engin.umich.edu (Peter Swanson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Arrested for travelling at the speed limit
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:51:33 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
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In article <1993Jan26.142933.587@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wvhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William VanHorne) writes:
>In article <C1FGKK.2q7H@austin.ibm.com> jlpicard@austin.ibm.com writes:
>>
>>[tales of cops sweet talking/intimidating people into 
>> signing search release forms deleted]
>>
>>[story of drug enforcement roadblock deleted]
>
>According to a report I saw on CNN yesterday, the cops in Loosiana hit upon
>the perfect scam.  They place a sign on the interstate saying: "Narcotics
>Checkpoint Ahead 1 Mile", and then simply wait for cars that slam on their
>brakes, whip around into u-turns, start tossing bags from windows, etc.
>I guess they can state that such behavior is evidence enough for a search.
>

The Minnesota version:
Near a seldom used exit: "Prepare to Stop: DWI Roadblock 1 Mile"
The roadblock, of course, is on the exit ramp, not the freeway.
Something like 10% of the 50-100 people using the ramp were arrested
for DWI.  Much more efficient than stopping the 3,000 or so cars
that go by in an hour.

pete "what if they're too drunk to read the sign?" swanson



-- 
| Peter J. Swanson                   |  pjswan@caen.engin.umich.edu        |
| PhD Pre-Candidate                  |  controls specialist                |
| Electrical Engineering:Systems     | Fortunately, ah keep muh feathuhs   |
| University of Michigan             | numbahd for just such ahn emergency.|
From: JTCHEW@lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: software kills
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Date: 23 Jan 1993 00:13:26 GMT
Organization: Honest Ernie's Used Ions
Distribution: world
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JP: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) 
TC: clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke), originally in sci.nanotech

TC>> Software bugs in medical machines have already killed people.  One was
an
TC>> X-ray machine used to treat tumors - high dosage stuff.  The tech set
TC>> up the machine by entering commands into the computer and after
TC>> treatment had begun noticed that one of the parameters he had entered
was
TC>> wrong.  Since the user-unfriendly software required him to back out
TC>> through a series of menues and then reenter all the information
TC>> over again, he just hit reset (crtl-alt-del?).  Unfortunately, the
TC>> software reset did not reset the hardware, until after machine
rebooted.
TC>> In the meanwhile the patient fried.  

That scenario might have happened -- I don't know.  An incident that
sounds similar occurred at the East Texas Cancer Center several years
ago.  It involved a Therac treatment machine from Atomic Energy of
Canada Ltd., and is one of the classic botchments of systems design.

Long story short, the software that controlled the magnets in the
accelerator beamline, sending the electron beam either directly 
to the patient or to a production target for the generation of 
X-rays, got sideways with the software that accepted parameter
values from the control panel.  Thus was an intense beam intended
for X-ray treatments sent into the beamline when the magnets were
set to give the electron beam directly to the patient.  Another
chain of events, exacerbated by inscrutable error messages, allowed
patients to get zapped not once but several times with this 
excessive dose.  

JP> Email for verification brought a response that it may have appeared in
JP> IEEE (spectrum?).

Karen Fitzgerald in the "Faults and Failures" column, IEEE Spectrum,
Vol. 24, No. 12 (1987) p. 16.  I quoted from it briefly in Chew,"Software
Documentation and Human-Factors Design," in Barker, Ed., "Perspectives
in Software Documentation (Amityville, NY:  Baywood Publishing Company,
1991). It would all make a great Three Stooges movie -- until you get to 
the part where one patient died and another was badly injured.  This be
serious business, folks; the crowning irony is that the mishap was
enabled in part by an attempt to increase user-friendliness by removing
a step that had reconciled the console input with the magnet settings.

JP> Any other medical mishaps caused by software?

Indubitably, my dear Jonathan.  Browsing the archives of COMP.RISKS would
probably turn up a few, along with a dazzling array of other cases in
which Murphy's Law was enforced with computers.

Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Blacks on Star Trek
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:51:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <4909@moscom.com>, de@moscom.com (David Esan) writes:

> In article <1993Jan27.022859.17716@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>>William Shatner's wife played the chief nurse?  Is that nepotism, or
>>what?

> Ted, Ted,
> You're in a heap of trouble now.
> You screwed up Star Trek fact.

> Majel was married to Gene.  What she did with Shatner is not my business.

No it's not.  It's KIBO's business.  He's the fellow who likes to post this
Shatner "fact" to see how many flames he can draw.

K.I.B.O. stands for  "KIrk's a BOzo" by the way.

Terry
From: loshin@godot.think.com (David Loshin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Snapple linked to KKK, Operation Rescue? (long)
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:09:21
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In article <1993Jan20.141422.5467@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:

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   In article <28506@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
   >According to the _Straight Dope_ there are three kinds of kosher 
   >marks, a "k", a circled "k", and a circled "u."   So, why are there
   >3 kinds you ask?  Well, I'll tell you.
   >
   >The plain "k" can be used by anyone to claim his/her product is 
   >kosher (i.e., certified by a rabbi that the product meets Jewish 
   >dietary law).
   >
   >The circled "k" is a registered trademark of the Organized Kashruth
   >Laboratories of New York.
   >
   >The circled "u" is a registered trademark of the Union of Orthodox
   >Jewish Congregations of America (as Cecil says, "the undisputed
   >heavyweight of kosher certifying organizations.")

   Actually, there are bunches of others of "K"s out there.  The "crescent-K"
   is an upstart certification agency, for example.  soc.culture.jewish has
   some remarkably amusing debates over who gives the best hechsher.

   Ted "special K" Frank
   -- 
   ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
   standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
   the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637

This is true; in fact there are kosher certification symbols that do not
even have a "K" in them. There are also magazines that come out every month
that evaluate the certifications as to reliability.

-David "I'm OK, you're OU" Loshin
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From: ldoering@engin.umich.edu (Laurence Doering)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Bambi meets Godzilla.
Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:47:36 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
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Keywords: bambi cute roadkill

In article <1993Jan25.220201.16899@nezsdc.icl.co.nz> derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>The well known film 'Bambi meets Godzilla' just came up in conversation.
>
>You know, the one were Bambi just prances around pronking and saying hi to
>all the cute animals and then getting squashed underfoot by Godzilla.
>
>We were just wondering if it ever really existed.  Who were the producers
>etc. and how much did it gross (out?). 
>
>We feel sure that CJL will be able to supply this information and perhaps 
>tell us if Bambi tasted like chicken.  If not someone else must know.  

Yes, it's a real film.  When I was an undergrad at Penn, the Penn Union
Council would occasionally show it as a trailer before the feature movie
of the evening in Irvine Auditorium.

It's about 4 or 5 minutes long, in black and white.  Basically, it consists
of the opening credits scrolling over an animated Bambi-like fawn, followed
by maybe 5 seconds of action where a giant clawed reptilian foot comes down
from the top of the frame and stomps Bambi flat.  "The End" then fades in
over the foot.

I have no idea who made it, but it's probably appeared as part of some
animation festival or other at some point.

Larry "too busy meeting more famous people to mention them right now" Doering
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:57:16 EST
From: <WCE2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Aids in pizza
 <C18yLI.2rz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>

This is a descendent of a UL that went around in 1988 about Burger King
Whoppers (it was in the mayo: and where does mayo come from anyhow? sure
doesn't look like eggs and oil).  Janet Langlois discussed it in " 'Hold
the Mayo': Purity and Danger in an AIDS Legend," _Contemporary Legend_ 1
(1991):153-172.
.
Bill Ellis (wce2 @ psuvm.psu.edu)                 Editor, FOAFtale News
Penn State, Hazleton Campus                       Voice: 717-450-3026
Hazleton, PA 18201-1291                           Fax: 717-450-3182
     "He who affirms the devil, creates the Devil." --Eliphas Levi
From: smith+@cs.cmu.edu (Sean Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Mushrooms and the Cat---a live one!
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:02:46 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

My wife came home from a horticulture class last night with this great story
her instructor had told her about something that had happened to a friend
of the instructor's.

Don't even bother checking the FAQ for this old chestnut.  What's interesting
is the handful of details---and the assertion by the instructor that this
happened not to some vague FOAF but to a particular friend.

	Friend goes up to Michigan's Upper Peninsula to stay with friends
	at their vacation home.  They go mushroom hunting, and gather a
	bunch of morels.  (It's May, when the morel hunting is at its best.)
	They have a big feast of steak and fresh wild mushrooms.  That cat
	comes in and pesters them, so they let the cat eat some of the
	leftovers.  

	Later that evening, the cat appears to be really sick.  Worried
	that they may have gathered some toxic False Morels, the company
	rushes off the hospital to get their stomaches pumped and generally
	have a miserable time.

	When they return home, they get to wondering how the cat is.  They
	find her---with four new kittens.


So that's how cats get pregnant.


--Sean ``you can lead a horticulture...'' Smith

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From: leecr@microsoft.com (Lee Crocker)
Subject: Re: Vegetarians and B vitamins
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:24:58 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

>: ObCarnivore: Vegetarians have to eat B vitamin supplements.
>
>Marmite (vegemite?) is an excellent source of B vitamins... and since
>its made from yeast extract is also vegetarian.

Also, the E. Coli bacteria in the intestine synthesize B vitamins,
although meat-eaters are not able to absorb them.  Studies show that
vegetarians are able to.  I am a vegetarian and take no supplements,
do not do any of that "protein combining" nonsense, and I'm healthy
as a horse.
-- 
Lee Daniel Crocker    | Free minds; free bodies; free trade.
leecr@microsoft.com   | Libertarian Party  1-800-682-1776
From: wvhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William VanHorne)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Bambi meets Godzilla.
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:51:37 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University


Speaking of "Bambi Meets Godzilla", does anybody know of any other cartoon
characters who have met famous .... 

Oh never mind.

---Bill "never met Rita Hayworth (sigh)" VanHorne
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