From: dc_ags@ac.nsac.ns.ca (Don Christie)
Subject: the powers that be INDEED!
Reply-To: dc_ags@ac.nsac.ns.ca
Organization: Nova Scotia Agricultural College, Nova Scotia, CANADA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:14:10 GMT


>>You again, eh Don. 

Well, almost. It would be more correct to say `You still, eh Don.'... I haven't
gone anywhere... I've read every word that has been posted to this group.

>>I thought you might be better than to support Hardwick's
>>inane, pointless babbling. He's not an agriculture person, he's just a BS'er
>>and a troublemaker. 

I was under the impression that we had already established that one need not
be an `agriculture person'... just an interested party... in order to take part
in this foolishness. 

I have found his points to be anything but inane, pointless babbling. None of
his posts put me in mind of BS, and I fail to see how he could be characterized
as a troublemaker... unless of course, you count his disagreement with YOUR
point of view as troublemaking.

>>About as substantially as you, and that's substantially insignificant,
>>wasteful of bandwidth and conterproductive.

That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. You'll forgive me, however, 
if I disagree with you. It's just as much my bandwidth as it is yours.

>>Killfiles are an effective way of dealing with malicious idiots like you
>>and Hardwick. 

If indeed Mr. Hardwick and I were malicious idiots, then I would agree with
you. The term `malicious' usually means that someone has or is causing harm
of some kind. What is the harm in expressing another point of view? How does
it damage your cause? 

>>
>>We are the powers that be. Maybe someday that might include you as well.
>>

I have never read _anything_ so arrogant in my entire life. Does the phrase
`a tempest in a teacup' mean anything to you? In the U.S., the USDA qualifies
as `the powers that be'. They make all the policy decisions about agriculture 
in the U.S... but they don't make any decisions here in Canada... or in any
other country in the world, for that matter. When I was referring to the
`powers that be', I was referrring to those executives who _actually_ make
decisions in the industry... not to the wannabe's like you.

>>You obviously have read little of what I and many others have posted here.
>>Get a life.
>>As I said before you're not qualified to make informed decisions about the
>>value of sustainable farming practices since you've not bothered to educate
>>yourself on the subject.

As I have already stated, I have read every word of what you've posted. The
fact that I disagree with some of it does not make me uneducated. 

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps there could be other opinions which are
valid besides yours? At least I have taken the time to actually state what
my opinions are... your posts almost without exception were written by someone
else... It's hard to decide whether or not you actually have an opinion about
anything.... it seems more likely that you just want to play net.god and 
dictate to the readership what they should think.

For example, who are you to be making judgement about my qualifications? I did
not notice your signature on my degree, I don't remember submitting any papers
or examinations to you, your friends and/or followers. You state that in your
opinion, _YOU_ are one of the `powers that be'... but I don't remember any
policy statements from you regarding agriculture here or anywhere else. You 
don't make judgements or decisions anywhere but on this newsgroup, and then
only in a very limited way.

reason: you're not qualified to do so.

>>
>>>So when these people turn off their terminals and shake their heads, and
>>>when they conclude that sustainable is a noble objective... but that there
>>>are relatively few truly viable ideas being expressed, can we really blame
>>>them? One side expresses its views and the other takes pot shots... 
>>>They conclude that the best direction that they can take is the one they
>>>are on... in large measure because of the fact that they're tired of listening
>>>to the narrow-minded assertions of individuals who are unable to see any
>>>more than a very small part of a very large picture. 
>>
>>This mindless garbage of yours clearly shows you to be a complete fool.

Perhaps it does... but more from the point that I post here at all than from
the thoughts that I have expressed. 

//Don
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