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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 questions from Amiga user
From: tfarmer@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Farmer)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:49:46 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

Hi there guys and guyettes.

I've been using OS/2 2.0 for a while now, but I have a few questions
that I hope you can answer. My main experience with multi-tasking
OSes has been using my Amiga (I won't count Windows for now :-) but it
seems there are some differences in philosophy...

For example, on my Amiga I can give task priorities to different
tasks. For example, I normally run comms packages with a task priority
of about 3, most other things with a priority of 0, and stuff like
screen-savers and ray-tracers with a priority of -1 or lower.

What is the equivalent with OS/2? Does it use task priorities in the
same way? Can you change them?

Another question : why is it necessary for OS/2 to load the various
comms drivers and other such stuff from the config.sys? This means
that whenever you want to change something, you have to reboot the
machine. If you happen to be running TCP/IP, this takes a fair while.

Note, I'm not flaming - I assume there is some sort of reason.
(Although I have the horrible feeling that it could be hysterical
accident. :-(

Third question : Can I turn off mouse acceleration? I like highly
geared, but linear, mouse movement.

Question : Are there any command shells which aren't just text windows
in a box? I'm looking for something that is scalable and doesn't just
use scrollbars to access the pre-defined area.

Last question : Can I play Pinball Dreams under OS/2? :-)

I'm looking forward to the next release.

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From: gurganus@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (J Gurganus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 14.4k modems
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:19:22 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

tjc@acsu.buffalo.edu (Thomas J. Corsalini) writes:


>	I am going to purchase a new modem and would appreciate feedback on
>the following points. 
>	
>	a) I was going to purchase a v.32 modem but it would appear that the
>	14.4k models, many with FAX included, are not that much more. I have
>	seen ads that range from $250 - $500+. I don't have an immediate
>	need for a FAX but...why upgrade again soon. Anyone have experience
>	with any of the less expensive brands/models?

I got a Digicom Scout Plus v.32 modem/fax for around $300.  Although
the modem itself works great, don't put the power supply any where
near vital magnetic/electric equipment.  I had the power supply under
my monitor, and while I was using OS/2, the monitor quit syncing
suddenly to 800x600 mode.  After smelling components fry, I turned off
the monitor.  It looks like that particular refresh frequency for
800x600 got toasted, because every mode except the 800x600 I was using
works okay except now the monitor gets shaky occasionally.  I was
quite appalled since the power supply and modem (and monitor) are all
FCC B rated.  Naturally, Digicom isn't liable for damage caused to
other equipment by their hardware.

Anybody else had any problems with Digicom hardware?

>	b) I do not currently have an I/O card with a 16550 UART. If I am
>	working predominantly working under OS/2 can I safely assume that I
>	do NOT actually need the FIFO buffer of the 16550? Does OS/2
>	suffiently buffer the com port? Would the modem suffer a performance
>	degradation under DOS?

16550's always do good.  I simply replaced by second 16450 with the
16550 and now OS/2 and DOS communications scream.  I've done 38400 in
OS/2 2.0 with no problems and no obvious performance hits.  I have a
486/33 so that helps too. 8)

>	c) It seems that only the internal models have a 16550 integrated
>	into their design. Can someone explain the logic of this.

To run at high speed, you've got to have the buffered 16550 uart to
keep from losing information.  

--
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(gurganus@ecn.purdue.edu)
From: Daniel.Karellen@f501.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Daniel Karellen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Above 16mb. Possible Faq
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:31:00 GMT


AT>From: atoenne@mpi-sb.mpg.de (Andreas Toenne)
AT>Path: lll-winken!ames!sun-
AT>barr!olivea!uunet!mcsun!Germany.EU.net!unido!sbsvax!mpii0200
AT>.cs.uni-sb.de!atoenne
AT>Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
AT>Subject: Above 16MB. Possible FAQ. Summary needed.
AT>Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Informatik
AT>Message-ID: <20783@sbsvax.cs.uni-sb.de>
AT>Date: 17 Aug 92 09:31:08 GMT

AT>Hi!

AT>Finally I've upgraded my 486/ISA to 20MB of memory.
AT>Has any1 collected the tips/tricks how to access this pile of memory
AT>in OS/2?

AT>I have applied the latest loader and I use the kernel that shrinks the
AT>swapfile. But the memavail-tool from hobbes tells me that I have only 16MB
AT>of memory. The bios knows about 20mb however.
AT>Can somebody answer the following questions:

AT>a. what was the occasional DMA limit on ISA machines? 16mb? 20mb? more ?
AT>b. does this mamavil-tool work properly?
AT>c. which configuration (kernel/loader patches) allows the full 20MB?

AT> Thanx, Andreas

AT>P.S. please reply by mail
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There is a patch.  Check out the NSC bbs at 1(404)835-6600.  The 16 meg patch
is
on there.  Hopefully it will work on your machine.
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From: heinz@edohwg.UUCP (Heinz Wrobel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re:  Request for info about kernel pre-emption and priorities
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:59:49 GMT
Organization: Edotronik GmbH

In article <mg.713847158@elan> mg@elan (Michael Golan) writes:
>So:
>* No magic, no 'multi threaded kernel' nor 'preemptinve kernel',
>  which are weird (and I think expensive. Anyone know of a commercial
>  widely used system designed that way?)

Look at EXEC of the Amiga OS. You might consider it the Amiga's kernel.
Preemptive multitasking is not just for your tasks there but for all of the
OS. Single threading is done only if absolutely necessary to protect shared
resources. So it's reentrant as far as possible. Put another way: The OS
run's like a direct extension of your task frame, which is based on
preemptive multitasking. Unless told otherwise the OS happily switches
between OS calls and your SW running without any problems.

But of course all this depends on how you _exactly_ define "kernel"

>-- Michael Golan

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From: "andrew makiejewski" <andrew.makiejewski@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: calender problems
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:53:44 EST
Reply-To: "andrew makiejewski" <andrew.makiejewski@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems



SUBJ: Calender Problems

RR> Why does the os/2 calender comes every time on a random position.
RR> I have the calender in my autostart folder, I placed it in the left
RR> corner, but it comes every time somewhere in the middle of the screen.

To save the size and position of a window, press and hold the SHIFT key
while resizing or moving the window.

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From: chris@zork.cc.binghamton.edu (Chris Peck)
Subject: OS/2 & CDROM questions
Reply-To: chris@zork.cc.binghamton.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:11:20 GMT

OK - I've looked through the FAQ & various other files and still have
a couple of questions leftover.

First - here's my hardware setup...
-386/40 DX (FOREX chipset, AMI BIOS, 8 Meg RAM)
-Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller & Quantum 105LPS
-SONY CDROM drive & proprietary SONY interface (with MSCDEX v2.20
 which requires SETVER.EXE under DOS 5.0)
-SoundBlaster 1.0 sound card

This drive works just fine under DOS 5.0 (with setver loaded), I loaded
up OS/2 2.0GA the other nite (I just got this motherboard - so I feel I
finally have the hardware required to run OS/2) I have been trying to get
the CDROM drive to work from DOS under OS/2 since then.  I tried to create
a "DOS from Drive A:" with:
device=d:\os2\mdos\fsfilter.sys
device=\sony_cdu.sys
device=\setver.exe
(these are from memory - but basically what I thought were the minimal
requirements to access the drive)
my autoexec.bat has the mscdex line in it - when it runs it says
"WRONG VERSION OF DOS" (or whatever - indicating that the SETVER.EXE is
not being loaded properly).  I even tried adding a line to the SESSION
Settings for the DOS From Drive A Icon to set the DOS version for MSCDEX.EXE
to DOS 4.00 - no luck.  Now obviously I am making some stupid mistake here
since I have seen posting from folks that have gotten this wot work...
Any help would be appreciated...

One other question - I have Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows - this requires
either Windows 3.1 or Windows 3.0 with the multimedia extensions.  The
extensions did not come with the CD - how do I get them & load them into
WINOS2 & how to I add support for the SONY CDROM under WINOS2???

On another note - I am considering buying a SCSI CDROM drive (probably a
Toshiba - since these are listed as being supported under OS/2 with the
packaged drivers).  Could anyone tell me whether this setup allows access to
the CDROM disk from a DOS application (under OS/2), or, do I have to go through
the same thing as above (creating a VMBOOT disk, buying the DOS CDROM drivers
from Adaptec, etc...).

-thanks
 chris

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From: gcs@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg C. Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: A clock in PM
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:08:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Aug13.010852.15628
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

patrice@concour.cs.concordia.ca (SCATTOLIN patrice) writes:


> Is there a clock with OS/2. I can run the Windows but I rather not. 

>Thanks

>--
>Patrice Scattolin
>					patrice@cs.concordia.ca
>Concordia University			Montreal, Canada
>"I am so far north that Santa lives two blocks from me"

Yes, there is a clock.  The way I like to do it is as follows:

Open OS/2 System, in system setup (I think, I'm not at my system 
just now) there is a clock icon.  Copy a shadow to your desktop 
and / or to your system startup (so it comes up every time you 
start your system).  In the notebook settings for the clock, you 
can select to have digital or analog, include seconds or not and 
have the date displayed or not.

Any questions?  E-mail me!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: oyang@cs.monash.edu.au (Kai Shing O'Yang)
Subject: How to make MouseSystem Bus mouse work in WIN/OS2?
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:06:28 GMT

Hi netters,

	I've got a problem with my (Mouse system) mouse. While I can install
it under WPS, (using the Logitech Serial mouse option), the pointer is simply
missing in WIN/OS2 and I couldn't find a way in WIN/OS2 to install the mouse.

Do I have to dig up my Win3.0 and copy the mouse driver into WIN/OS2? or
are there ways to work around that?

Thanks for your help.
Kai

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wjb5106@rigel.tamu.edu (Walter Barnett)
Subject: Re: After OS2/2 Reinstallation, SYS005 Errors
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: reinstall
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.221104.28756@njitgw.njit.edu>, dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes...
>In article <roelle.714160655@uars_mag> roelle@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Curtis Roelle) writes:
>>2. Deleting hidden files: "EA DATA. SF", "WP ROOT. SF", "OS2BOOT",
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^    ^^^^^^^^^^^

>Big mistake!  You deleted all the extended attributes, but you didn't
>clear the FAT flags that OS/2 uses to indicate the presence of EA's.
>So, OS/2 thinks the file has EAs, but it can't load them.  Your only
>solution now is to reformat the partition.
> 


That sounds a bit extreme.  Why not try booting the OS/2 installation
disks, hitting ESCape at the opening screen and running chkdsk (from
the second floppy) to repair the drive?


_______________________________________________________________________
Walter Barnett        Aerospace Engineering        Texas A&M University 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: HOW to INSTALL Fonts??
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:40:54 GMT

Hi there.

I downloaded a font yesterday, and danged if I cannot figure how
to install it so OS/2 System Editor 'sees' it!

Does anyone know how and could mail or post the answer?
The Master Hep Index, once again, was *totall* useless.

-Thanks! 

--
*Dan Stephenson   das9674@usl.edu 
*"It reminds me of something Cally said. 'He who trusts cannot be
*betrayed, only mistaken.' It was a saying of her people.... Cally is
*dead. So are most of her people." -Avon, from _Rescue_ (Blakes 7)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: su0911@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (David Salzberg)
Subject: Re: OS2 swapping still sick?
Keywords: swap, swapper.dat,growing,slow system
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 13:24:13 GMT

In article <unruh.713944113@physics.ubc.ca> unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh) writes:
> I have OS2 on a 486-33-8Meg, 130Meg Fujitsu IDE hard drive.
> Lately the system has been getting slow, with a
> tremendous amount of disk activity going on even when there was nothing
> going on- eg only the desktop open, and I then open an OS2 window. The
> swapper.dat file had grown to over 14MB It dropped to 12, but stuck
> there, and the system had become slow. I dual booted Dos, and erased
> the huge swapper.dat file. OS2 is back to its old form now.
> Yes I have installed the kernel patch. Do others also find that the
> swapping still leaves something to be desired?
>Bill Unruh
>unruh@physics.ubc.ca
>

I have a Zeos 386sx-16, 8 meg (4 mother, 4 bus), 85 Mb seagate IDE drive, 
and I have the same problem.  (More or less).  If I run a windows program
and then retrun to the WPS, my swapper file is huge.  When I restart the
machine, though, the swapper file is small.  It seams that the swapper file 
only grows bewteen reboots -- it doesn't shrink.  My solution was to by two
more MB ram, which I will install today or tomorrow.  I might also try to
disable swapping.  

BTW, I am running the 6/17/92 kernal patch.

David Salzberg
From: joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Word Perfect under OS/2
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:43:09 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

holmes@gorilla.nbn.com (Tim Holmes) writes:

>When I use WP 5.1 under OS/2, it has a very hard time opening 
>text files.  Little ones will eventually open, but with large ones,
>say over 80k, WP says "DOS text conversion in progress", but it
>just sits there for minutes (or longer, I haven't waited) with
>no hard disk accesses or anything.  I went through it with
>IBM Tech Support in Florida, and they were able to duplicate the problem, 
>but it was kind of left as, "well, you should call back and see if
>there's any news, this report will be automatically erased in
>28 days."  Didn't inspire too much confidence.

>There must be people running WP under OS/2.  This seems like a
>pretty major bug.  I hope this one isn't just erased after 28 days.
>Anybody out there have this problem?  Or a work around for it?


> 

>==========================================================================
>Tim Holmes             holmes@gorilla.nbn.com             San Rafael, CA
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi there...

It makes a hell of a difference HOW you tell WP to read a ASCII file!!!

If you use F5 (filelist) and select 1 (Load document or something like
that), it will take minor eternity to read. The best way is Ctrl-F5 1 and
2/3, which immidiatly tells WP that it's a DOS file. It's about 3 times
faster on my 486-50!!!

It beats me, why the difference is so large, but I guess a WP Corp. 
programmer must have had a VERY bad day when he made this ;-)

Christian
-- 
M. Christian Holmgreen / joker@diku.dk / mochmch@uts.uni-c.dk
student, University of Copenhagen, Dept. of Computer Science
"Human errors can only be avoided if one can avoid the use of humans"
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thursday, 20 Aug 1992 11:43:21 EDT
From: Jim Gerlach <GERLACHJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: HP PaintJet and QPro2.0

I am having trouble printing to my HP PaintJet from Quattro Pro 2.0 under
OS/2 2.0. The problem occurs with graphics that I'm trying to print but not
with text. A few clues:
1. I am using SMGXPJET driver with Printer-specific format selected.
2. Graphics print fine if I boot DOS 5.0 and run QPro.
3. Graphics print fine to LaserJet IIIP or IBM Proprinter X24 under OS/2.
4. What happens is the printer advances page line-by-line but no output.
5. Harvard Graphics 2.3 DOES produce perfect graphics images under OS/2.
6. Sygraph (a stats graphing package) produces random lines and junk.

Help!!! I have checked FAQ questions (several flavours) with no luck. The
OS/2 readme file says to install QPro printerdrivers from within software
rather than at installation. Since I migrated QProI re-selected the printer
type at the options menu (?). Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

Thanx in advance, Jim

Jim Gerlach - Cancer Research Laboratories
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From: mferrare@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Mark Ferraretto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: DOS 5.0 under OS/2 and Win-OS/2 in SVGA
Date: 21 Aug 92 07:48:28 GMT


Two questions:

1)	How can I get DOS 5.0 to be the default shell instead of
whatever's in os2\mdos?  I have the following setup:  486DX2, 200MB
Drive.  c: is the DOS primary partition, d: is OS/2 2.0 HPFS logical
and e: is a logical FAT partition.  DOS 5.0 is on c:. How can I get it
to be the default shell that dos programs are started in

2)	How can I load SVGA drivers for Win-OS2?  System setup only
shows network setup and nothing else.

3) (I lied) I copied FSFILTER.SYS to c: and put it as the first line
in my config.sys but I still can't see the OS/2 2.0 d: partition.  Do
I have to do something else?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe)
Subject: Re: Bug or dubious 'feature'?
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:25:11 EDT
Organization: IFS Project, University of Michigan
Reply-To: jwh@citi.umich.edu

In article <l8kq9dINN7t1@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>, hethmon@hydra1f.cs.utk.edu (PAUL HETHMON) writes:
|> In article <40a-4!C@engin.umich.edu>, jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe) writes:
|> |> I have OS/2 installed on several different computers
|> |> and I oftentimes want to transfer files and directories
|> |> between the two.  I've noticed that OS/2 will not let
|> |> you copy program objects to the floppy drive.  This seems
|> |> like a bug to me.  I realize the program objects aren't
|> |> really files, however they are objects that can be moved
|> |> around on the desktop and into folders so it makes sense
|> |> to me that they should be able to be copied onto a
|> |> floppy and transferred to another system.
|> |> 
|> 
|> I would venture to guess that the reason you can't drag and drop
|> a program object to floppy is that once the object is on the floppy
|> and the floppy is removed, the settings and path name to get to
|> that object become meaningless.  Unless your multiple systems are set
|> up identical, copying program objects between them is not very useful.
|> A program object on system A will not work on system B, because B is
|> different.
|> 

This is probably the 'logic' used by IBM but I think its faulty.  While
it *may* be true that the directory settings are different, its not
necessarily true.  Also, I don't see why the program settings would 
necessarily be any different just because the program resides on
a different machine.  If the path/working directory is different
on the new machine the program object wouldn't work.  This is no
different than if you moved the executable around on the original
system.  This won't result in a fatal error, the system just won't
be able to execute the program and it will bring up the settings
dialog.  I think this minor inconvenience is worth it for the 
simplicity and consistency of being able to move files around on
my system, regardless of whether it resides on floppy or hard
disk.

BTW, if OS/2 is going to prevent this operation from taking place,
an alert should come up with a message telling you that you can't
move program objects to floppies.  If you click OK, all other 
selected files would be copies.  Selecting Cancel would cancel
the entire operation.


Hopefully someone from IBM is listening and will pass this
along to the appropriate person.

James W. Howe                  internet: jwh@citi.umich.edu
University of Michigan             uucp: uunet!mailrus!citi.umich.edu!jwh
Ann Arbor, MI   48103-4943
From: db3l@ans.net (David Bolen)
Subject: Re: Request for info about kernel pre-emption and priorities
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:14:25 GMT
Organization: Advanced Network & Services, Inc. - Elmsford, NY

In article <1992Aug13.155927.6849@nuscc.nus.sg> eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG) writes:

>I have measured the average context  switch time and the average time
>for a high priority thread to preempt a low priority thread to be 
>84 usecs and 250 usecs (about - I'm doing this from home so I can't
>verify again - my memory got holes) on OS/2 2.0 with WPS loaded on a
>486-33DX AT clone.

That sounds about right (.25ms).  The < 1ms claim was for the entire line that
OS/2 was built to run on, which included 286 machines.  When we were testing
it I think we used a 16MHx 386, and saw somewhere in the neighborhood of .5ms.

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