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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:38:18 EDT
From:         Mauricio Alvarenga <MAINT@BRCPRM.BITNET>
Subject:      OVERRIDING IMMEDIATE COMMANDS

I have to override CMS  HX, HI and TS immediate commands in a machine
for external users. This machine runs an exec called at logon time
and the exec ends with a logoff. I put an immcmd in the profile and
everything is ok until one of the execs calls STAIRS, at that moment
if I type hx I'll get a protection exception. Than I tried with
nucxload, I made a 'do nothing assemble program' and put it
as nuc extension with system and imm options and the same happens.

Any ideas??

Thanks in advance


  __________________________________________________________________
 /                                                                  \
 | Mauricio Alvarenga      |    Mineral Research Company - CPRM     |
 | VM Consultant           |    Rio de Janeiro - Brasil             |
 \__________________________________________________________________/
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:28:00 EDT
From:         "John F. Chandler" <PEPMNT@CFAAMP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Need Apple II comm software for VM

> >Does anyone know how I could get communications software to use a VM
> >mainframe using an APPLE //gs?  Since VM requires properly defined
> >function keys, it renders home computers like the Apple II useless.
> >Alternatively, if VM could recognize VT100 commands, perhaps that
> >could work.

> We must first know how you can communicate with this VM mainframe.

To put it another way, those CMS programs that require a fullscreen
terminal are not looking just for the function keys, but also for the
whole style of I/O for 3270's.  That's what protocol converters are for:
to translate between 3270-style and ASCII-style communication.  The same
problem affects "office" computers as well as "home" ones (VAXen, work
stations, etc. -- anything that doesn't have a TCP/IP connection plus
a working TN3270 implementation).  Incidentally, I presume you already
have software for making your Apple emulate a VT100, but, if you don't,
that's easy to get -- Kermit is available free from Columbia.
                                  John
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:24:58 EDT
From:         Leonard Boyle <LENBOYLE@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Looking for the CP RETRIEVE FORWARD mods

On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:04:32 CDT Charles Becker said:
>On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:52:14 EST Raffie B Tordil said:
>>Hopefully someone knows where to find them. According to the
>>MEMO for TRACK, Dick Newson has made these mods, but I can't find them.
>>Anyone care to point me in the right direction?
>
>The RETRIEVE FORWARD mod and an XSEND mod (CP SEND w/o the secuser
>stuff) were both posted to VMESA-L in mid to late January of this year.
>You should be able to find them in the archives.
>
>Charles

It was also posted to the VMSHARE conference at the same time.
Which means that it should also be on the 1992 VM Workshop tools tape.

This function along with serveral other goodies is reported to be
included in the VM/ESA ESA 1.2  release due out in dec..
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:35:00 EDT
From:         "Dennis.Boone" <BOONE@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: WAIS for VM?

> There is a WAIS available for vm on th 1992 VM share files.
> The program is called unicorn. It can be FTPed from
> KSUVM.KSU.EDU

This software looks like a CWIS.  WAIS is a software system for keyword
indexing and searching over a network using the Z39.50 protocol, developed
by Thinking Machines of Cambridge.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:15:58 CDT
Reply-To:     Laura Guy <guy@DPLS.DACC.WISC.EDU>
From:         Laura Guy <guy@DPLS.DACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      Budget cuts and the NLS
X-To:         sos-data@uncvm1.oit.unc.edu

Forwarded message:

I sent this out to the IASSIST listserver and was asked to send it
out to SOS-Data as well.  Please excuse any duplication.

Laura Guy
DPLS
University of Wisconsin-Madison

>
> I thought this might be of interest to some of you who make use of
> the NLS...
>
> Forwarded message:
> >
> > From: IRP2::MANSKI       "chuck manski" 14-AUG-1992 08:48:25.72
> > To:   HAUSER,MARE,SANDEFUR,WALKER,CAIN,BITNET%"mclanaha@pucc"
> > CC:
> > Subj: NLS appropriation troubles
> >
> > Yesterday, Robert Moffitt informed me that the BLS had its appropriation
> > cut by a few percent in the U.S. House and that subsequently, the acting
> > Commissioner decided to target the cut, if it should stick, on a few
> > BLS activities.  In particular, the NLS would be cut by 60%.  There will
> > likely be an effort to lobby against this gearing up.  Some of you have
> > personal research interests in the NLS and others may be interested more
> > generally and so may want to help out, I hope.
> >     Robert is chair of the NLS technical advisory committee and I am on
> > that committee, so we will likely get involved.  If you have any ideas
> > now, please let Robert or me know.  We may well be in touch later otherwise.
> > Chuck
> >
> >
>
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:25:39 LCL
Reply-To:     Mike Newman <PB5840@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU>
From:         Mike Newman <PB5840@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Conservation/Environment Survey Data
X-To:         Laura Guy <guy@DPLS.DACC.WISC.EDU>,
              "Social Science Data List." <SOS-DATA@UNCVM1.BITNET>
              19 Aug 1992 08:55:48 CDT from <guy@DPLS.DACC.WISC.EDU>

On Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:55:48 CDT you said:
>Please excuse the cross listing of this message to multiple
>listservers.
>
>I have a researcher looking for recent U.S. surveys that explore
>in-depth attitudes towards the environment, conservation, and
>energy consumption.  The ICPSR has some old U.S. Dept of
>Energy data from the late '70's and early '80's, but nothing
>more recent aside from scattered media polls, ANES, and so forth.
>Interestingly, the Euro-barometers have dealt with the subject
>quite a bit, but the researcher insists on U.S. data.
>
>When I phoned the Dept. of Energy asking about the availability
>of more current data they laughed (literally!).
>
>Does anyone out there have any leads?
>
>Thanks,
>Laura Guy
>Data and Program Library Service
>University of Wisconsin-Madison


You might try contacting the DOE Office of Scientific and Technical Information
in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, (615) 576-1188.  This office maintains an Energy
Science and Technology Data Base (EDB) which includes "information on all
scientific and technical aspects of fossil, renewable, and nuclear energy
sources; energy conservation, consumption, and utilization; energy policy;
the environmental effects of energy production and utilization; economic
and social aspects of energy technologies; applied and basic biomedical
studies; and basic studies of geosciences, physics, chemistry, biology,
and engineering".

Mike Newman                                 BITNET:    PB5840@UTKVM1
The University of Tennessee                 Internet:  PB5840@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU
Computing Center                            Phone:     (615) 974-6755
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:55:48 CDT
Reply-To:     Laura Guy <guy@DPLS.DACC.WISC.EDU>
From:         Laura Guy <guy@DPLS.DACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      Conservation/Environment Survey Data
X-To:         sos-data@uncvm1.oit.unc.edu,
              iassist%pucc.BitNet@vms3.macc.wisc.edu

Please excuse the cross listing of this message to multiple
listservers.

I have a researcher looking for recent U.S. surveys that explore
in-depth attitudes towards the environment, conservation, and
energy consumption.  The ICPSR has some old U.S. Dept of
Energy data from the late '70's and early '80's, but nothing
more recent aside from scattered media polls, ANES, and so forth.
Interestingly, the Euro-barometers have dealt with the subject
quite a bit, but the researcher insists on U.S. data.

When I phoned the Dept. of Energy asking about the availability
of more current data they laughed (literally!).

Does anyone out there have any leads?

Thanks,
Laura Guy
Data and Program Library Service
University of Wisconsin-Madison
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:03:53 CDT
Reply-To:     POLS0@UHUPVM1.BITNET
From:         POLS0@UHUPVM1.BITNET
Subject:      please help locate this data

Hello,

       I am looking for data that shows all loans from bodies such as
the IMF, World Bank, European Bank for Reconstruction, the U.S. government,
and the recipients of those loans.

       If someone knows of a source of this data, please let me know.

                                         Randy Hergesheimer
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:17:15 PDT
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From:         Jim Jacobs <jajacobs%weber.ucsd.edu@SDSC.BITNET>
Subject:      Financial Statistics of Cities 1905-1939

I'm trying to help a faculty member here track down some data from
1905-1939  called "City Government Finances" (or "Financial Statistics
of Cities" before WWII).  I understand the series was issued annually
by the U.S. Bureau of the Census.

Does anyone know a source for these data?

Many thanks in advance for any clues or pointers!

Jim Jacobs
Univ. of Calif. San Diego
jajacobs@ucsd.edu
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:23:57 EDT
Reply-To:     TIF@NIHCU.BITNET
From:         TIF@NIHCU.BITNET
Subject:      U.S. Government Budget/Grants Data
X-To:         pols0@uhupvm1.BITNET, sos-data@uncvm1.BITNET

August 13, 1992

Dear Mr. Hergesheimer:

I am writing in response to your request of August 12, 1992 for
information about data sources for U.S. and foreign government's loans.
The Center for Electronic Records does not have computer files
specifically listing loans by U.S. and foreign governments.  However,
we may outline a number of sources for data files about the US
government's spending patterns and budgets.

The data file "Budget Data and Title Files (US Government), 1940-1990",
used to produce the Historical Tables of the U.S. Budget is available
from the National Technical Information Service (NTIS, 5285 Port Royal
Road, Springfield, VA, (703) 487-4650).  The order number for this item
is PB-100617.  This agency may have information about other databases
that may be of assistance.

The holdings of the Center for Electronic Records includes a number of
files related to the spending patterns of the US Government.  One
series is the Federal Assistance Award Data System (FAADS).  Data have
been compiled quarterly for FY1981 through the second quarter of
FY1992, and transferred to us.  The files contain data on all federal
domestic assistance awards reported by participating agency programs
including all major federal departments and agencies with grant making
authority.

In addition, the Center maintains Federal Outlay annual files, July
1968 - Sept 1980.  These files report the transfer of Executive Branch
dollar outlays to states, counties, cities, and through program
appropriations.  These data were collected by the Office of Economic
Opportunity and are in the Records of the Community Services
Administration (Record Group 381).

A set of related files were produced by the Office of the Secretary of
Defense for Military Prime Contracts, FY1966 through FY1975.  These
files outline the distribution of military funds to contractors during
and after the Vietnam Conflict for contracts over $10,000 awarded by
the DOD.  Each record includes data about the contract, the contractor,
and information about the DOD agency making the award.

For information about the records in our collection, or others, please
contact the Center for Electronic Records (NSX), ATTN: Reference
Services, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, DC
20408.  The phone number is (202) 501-5579.  We may also be contacted
via Internet at tif@cu.nih.gov or BITNET at TIF@NIHCU.  A partial,
hardcopy, title list of holdings is made available free of charge to
interested individuals.  This title list includes approximately 4,300
of the 13,000 electronic data files in the collection of the Center.

Ted Hull
Center for Electronic Records
National Archives
(202) 501-5579
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From: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
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Subject: I'm away for a few days
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:25:25 GMT
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Dear Handicap Digest Reader,

I've taken a few days vacation (of course, it's been raining
non-stop for the past 72 hours <grin>).  I'll be dialing in
from time to time and will get some Digests out on Thursday or
Friday.

Bill
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From:         Bill McGarry <wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com>
Subject:      Splitting the BlinkTalk Digest out
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Dear Handicap Digest Reader,

The volume in the Handicap Digest has grown trememdously
to the point where people are dropping out of the list
because they (or their mailbox space) cannot handle so
many different topics.

As a first step, I will be moving all of the visually-impaired
articles to a separate mailing list.  I am still planning
on having the articles in digest format just as it is now.

However, I need some suggestions on what to call the list.
I am limited to 8 characters.  There is already a BLIND-L
list, I do not like "BLINK-L" since I think that people will
not have any idea of what the list is about by the name.
VISUAL - not too great.  I will probably be changing the name of
the Digest itself to the Blind News Digest, so I guess
BLINDDIG or BLINDNWS or BLNDNEWS are all possibilities.

So let's hear some names!


                                Bill
                                (203) 337-1518

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From:         Bill McGarry <wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com>
Subject:      ADA-LAW mailing list
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Dear Handicap Digest Reader,

I am also planning to start a new mailing list to discuss
the Americans with Disabilities Act.  The list will be
called ADA-LAW (to differentiate from several mailing lists
having to do with the programming language, ADA).

I am planning to have this list un-moderated.

Right now, I am just looking for any comments.  When I get
the list actually started, I will let everyone know that
it's time to sign up.


Thanks,



                                Bill McGarry
                                (203) 337-1518

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:21:16 EDT
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From:         Bill McGarry <wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com>
Subject:      Two issues of Handicap Digest missing
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Dear Handicap Digest Reader,

Apparently two issues of the Handicap Digest, # 2414
from way back in January and # 2505 from March never
made it to the listserver.  Just to keep everyone's files
up to date, I will be sending these two issues
out next.

Sorry for the delay.

Bill
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From: CHRIS@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (chris)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.l-vmctr
Subject: Re: VMArchive
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:13:11 GMT
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              19 Aug 1992 09:50:27 EDT from <STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>

On Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:50:27 EDT Stan Horwitz said:
>Hello; I  am a mainframe applications  software consultant here at  Temple U.
>My boss  and I have been  trying to talk  our VM systems people  into putting
>VMArchive  into general  production for  the past  couple of  years and  they
>always come back  to us with lame excuses  as to why they won't  do it. After
>quite some  time, we  were able to  have VMArchive put  into production  in a
>minimal way. If our systems folks  had their way, they would remove VMArchive
>from our 3084-Q entirely.  As it is, files are moved  between the staging are
>and tape only twice a day; at 8:00  and 13:00. We want to increase this to at
>least  once  an hour.  We  also  want to  allow  users  to archive  files  on
>temporary disk  which is  currently not  possible here.  I am  wondering what
>your  experiences with  VMArchive are.  How many  people on  your system  use
>VMArchive  and how  did you  set it  up?  If this  is a  FAQ, please  respond
>personally. It would also  be nice to chat with folks at  other VM sites that
>use VMArchive in  the event our systems folks have  further arguments against
>this idea. It would probably make more  sense for one of our systems analysts
>to send a posting  on this matter to L-VMCTR, but I guess  they don't do such
>things since it is not in their contract.
>
VMArchive is a good tool for users to manage their own backup environment.
The problem is getting or educating the users about the tool and getting
them the user to use VMArchive more.   There are several options as to
where the archive will reside.  Also, how long it will reside in a certain
location before the archive is either purged or moved to another location
or media.  So, do what you have to do politically and good luck.
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:29:51 +0300
From:         Larry Israel <VSLARRY@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject:      Problems with old VMBACKUP

I am posting this for a shop down the road. They have just gotten some
3380 model K disks on a 3380-23 controller, running VM/SP REL 5 (they
are moving to VM/ESA soon) on an IBM 9000 model 9210. They are running
VMBACKUP 4.1. They moved minidisks from some model A 3380's to the K by
using VMBACKUP, editing the directory to change the volume serial number for
some of the model A's, and changing both the volume serial number and
cylinder address for others, so they put two single-density volumes on one
double density one. The model K disks were prepared for the move by
the INSTALL command of DSF, followed by the CPVOLUME format and allocate
to set cylinder 0 and the allocation map (all PERM).

Everything went fine. The minidisks are quite usable. There is, however, one
slight problem. On some of the non-CMS (VSAM or VSE) minidisk VMBACKUP gets
an error on attempting a backup. The errors are fairly, but not completely,
repeatable. The errors occur both on minidisk whose cylinder addresses have
changed and those which have not changed. DDR gives no problems on reading
the minidisks, nor does the EREP log show any errors.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what the problem might be?
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From: xmas@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mark A. Stevens)
Subject: Re: VMArchive
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:29:44 GMT

In article <L-VMCTR%92081910040303@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz) writes:
>Hello; I  am a mainframe applications  software consultant here at  Temple U.
>My boss  and I have been  trying to talk  our VM systems people  into putting
>VMArchive  into general  production for  the past  couple of  years and  they
>always come back  to us with lame excuses  as to why they won't  do it. After

Shame on them.  Excuses should never be lame, they should be able to
run on their own ;->

It's not great, but it does work, VMArchive, that is.

>quite some  time, we  were able to  have VMArchive put  into production  in a
>minimal way. If our systems folks  had their way, they would remove VMArchive
>from our 3084-Q entirely.  As it is, files are moved  between the staging are
>and tape only twice a day; at 8:00  and 13:00. We want to increase this to at
>least  once  an hour.  We  also  want to  allow  users  to archive  files  on

We had scheduled disk to tape runs twice per day, also.  We are down to
one for the moment, but that doesn't have anything to do with
VMARCHIVE.  Recalls are processed every 5 minutes.  We have three
mdisks for users to archive files to with a one day retention period.
I need to add more disk space because more people are using it.

>temporary disk  which is  currently not  possible here.  I am  wondering what
>your  experiences with  VMArchive are.  How many  people on  your system  use
>VMArchive  and how  did you  set it  up?  If this  is a  FAQ, please  respond

See above for setup, if you want more detail, send me a note.  We have
about 100 userids with files on the VMARCHIVE tapes, most are VMCenter
userids and files.

>personally. It would also  be nice to chat with folks at  other VM sites that
>use VMArchive in  the event our systems folks have  further arguments against
>this idea. It would probably make more  sense for one of our systems analysts
>to send a posting  on this matter to L-VMCTR, but I guess  they don't do such
>things since it is not in their contract.

Mine says, "other duties as assigned."  Maybe they don't have that
clause? ;-)

>Thanks in advance.

Ihth
-- 
Mark A. Stevens                           Phone:    708-534-0200
Systems Programmer                        Internet: xmas@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Educational Computing Network             BITNET:   XMAS@ECNUXA.BITNET
Board of Governors Universities           VMSHARE:  ECE/MARK
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:25:56 EDT
From:         Bill Sallee <SYSBILL@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VMArchive
              19 Aug 1992 09:50:27 EDT from <STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>

We run the archive jobs three times/day mainly because MVS owns all the
tape drives and operations has enough to do without having to attach
and mount VM tapes during the day.  This seems to work out fine.
Since archiving is used primarily by researchers who create LARGE
files, we only allow disk to tape (offline) archiving.  We prefer
that these files not go through the VM spool.

Bill Sallee University of Kentucky
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