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From: abennett@athena.mit.edu (Andrew A. Bennett)
Subject: MIT Modelers' Group Meeting
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: ne
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:52:27 GMT

The first meeting of the MIT Modelers' Group will be Thursday, September 17th
(that's this Thursday) at 6PM in MIT room 5-232 (or maybe 5-234, next door over;
just sniff for paint & glue).

To get to 5-232 or 234, go in the main doors of MIT (on Mass. Ave), turn right
and go down the hall to the first set of stairs.  Go up one flight and down the 
hall a bit more.  The rooms are on the left, and the room numbers are on the 
door.

If you are coming from the Kendall Station on the subway, there is a map outside
the station.  It'll show you where Mass. Ave is from there.  basically, you're 
just coming at the main doors from the "back".

The meeting is open to *anyone* (not just MIT folks and not just students).  You
don't need supplies as one or another of us usually has whatever you need.  Just
bring a kit, book, magazine, figure, model train bit, etc. or just bring yourself
and look at what everyone else brought.  There are no dues, either (we used up
all our money on kits & paint ;) ).

In addition to building sessions, we also do joint modeling projects, road
trips to hobby shows, museums, historical places (ships, forts, aircraft, etc),
airshows and more.  We also place joint mail-orders (to defray postage costs)
and swap/loan stuff.

If you have any questions, feel free to call or email:

Andrew (Drew) Bennett
abennett@athena.mit.edu
(617) 661-7068


-Drew

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Newsgroups: alt.models
From: zenith89@bcarh1eb.bnr.ca (Chris VanFleet)
Subject: Re: any police car models out there?
Reply-To: zenith89@bcarh1eb.bnr.ca ()
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd., Ottawa, CANADA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:24:31 GMT

In article <Sep.13.15.55.45.1992.6851@oliver.rutgers.edu> livneh@oliver.rutgers.edu (Shai Livneh) writes:
>I'm looking for a scale model of 1/24 or 1/25 scale
>chevrolet caprice or impala police car with a 350
>engine (light bar, interior stuff optional).  Has 
>anyone seen or heard anything about this model?
>Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Please email to : livneh@oliver.rutgers.edu
 
I would like to make the same request, except that I'm also 
interested in Ford Crown Vic police cars too. Also, could 
you please post here because my $%$!@@!*& email doesn't
work.
From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Vote, please
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:36:00 GMT
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO

So far, only 136 votes have been cast on the creation of rec.models.scale.
In July, the sampled readership showed 399 readers in the sample area, a
small section of overall Usenet readership. Yet only 136 people have voted?

Please do not withhold support over small issues such as name. The thought
of having the group within the Usenet hierarchy is wonderful, and I would
hate to see it fail due to lack of support. I won't tell you how to vote,
but I encourage you to do so. Please read the recent 2nd CFV for information
on how to submit your vote. I am not collecting votes, so that should the
proposal pass, there will be no question of foul play in the vote-taking.

Randy
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Newsgroups: alt.models
From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: How do you do road usage detail on a car kit?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 04:57:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes:
>
>I am working on a 1:12 scale plastic car kit and I am looking for
>suggestions on how to do things like road grime, leaking oil and
>coolant and other such stuff.
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I have in hand a set of "Auto Effects" from _FX_Weathering_Materials_, a
fairly new line from _Pre_Size_Model_Specialties_, which is a
local company that is beginning to be widely distributed.  I think D&J may
carry this by now, but railroad shops are an even more likely possibility.

e-mail me (obrien@netcom.com) if you want contact infomation for a friend
of mine who does discount mail order and definitely carries this line.

Set 952 AUTO EFFECTS:
970 OIL
971 GREASE
972 FUEL STAIN
975 HYDRAULIC FLUID

also available, several varieties of rust, ash, soot, mud of various textures,
and lots of products other than paints.

Some of these stains tempt the viewer to touch them to see if
they are as wet as they look - they are not.


	Bob   (IPMS#4157)
From: mdlouie@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: looking for IMAI/Monogram model
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:02:59 GMT
Reply-To: mdlouie@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

I am searching for a model produced by IMAI called the Armo Fighter.  It was 
also produced by Monogram (of America)in their GOBOTS line as Leader-1.  As for
the IMAI version, it was plastic-molded, not a garage kit or nylon.  The
Monogram
would probably also be plastic.  If you have one that you are willing to
part with or know some good leads for me to check into, please E-mail me
back here.  Thanks, in advance.

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From: burden_d@oass.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Tamiya 1:12 scale F1 kits.
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:01:09 GMT
Reply-To: burden_d@oass.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


If you've never built one of the Tamiya 1/12th F1 models I and you
are little concerned about spending the $120-$150 for the 641/2
you should look for one of the older kits which generally sell for
$50-$70.

You should be able to find one of these:

Ferrari 312T
Ferrari 312T4
Renault RE-20
Lotus 78
Lotus 72D


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From: techsy005@spacm1.spac.spc.com (Fred Franceschi)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Tamiya 1:12 scale F1 kits.
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:12:04 PDT
Organization: Security Pacific Automation Co., LA, CA

In article <1992Sep9.175934.19832@lmt.mn.org>, ChazL@county.lmt.mn.org (Chaz Larson) writes:
> I'm wondering if anyone has built one of these big Tamiya F1 kits, ....
> 
> I'd like to know if anyone has built one of these, and if so, if you feel you 
> got your $150.00 worth.
> 
> A related question:  With any of these high-dollar kits, I think I'd have a 
> hard time even cutting any parts off the sprues, let alone permanently 
> altering parts by sanding or painting :)  Does anyone else feel this kind of 
> "fear" when starting an expensive kit?

I build model airplanes, and have recently gotten heavily into "upgrading"
and detailing old inexpensive kits, most recently a 50's vintage Airfix
kit. The early kits are godawful. After whacking and reshaping a few of
those, I have no fear about working with more expensive recent kits.

Try a bit of reshaping and detailing on an old kit; it may help you get
the skill and confidence to try the newer ones.
-- 

Fred Franceschi
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From: matt@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: 1/72 scale bikini babes??
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:14:38 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep8.192213.7949@news.columbia.edu>, dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:
> 
>    Does anyone know of a source for 1/72 scale bikini babes? Maybe a few
> guys in jams as well?
>   I have seen something like this, but in the scales usually used for
> car models (1/25?).
> 
>    I want to make a humourous dune buggy halftrack, paint it in hippy
> colors and fill it with beachgoers. I want to do it in 1/72 scale, but
> have never seen BB's in that scale.
> 
> DanZ
> 
I would suggest checking a store that sold HO train layout stuff.  In a hobby 
shop in Easton, Pa. (USA), I once saw some bathers scaled for use with an HO 
layout.  Some of them were wearing bikinis, and...some of them weren't.  HO
scale BB's might look rather petit in a 1/72 dune buggy, though.  Depends
on your preference, really.

Matt
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: larsons@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (Larson Shawn Michael)
Subject: Re: In Search of Clear Windshields
Organization: Oregon State University
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 17:47:39 GMT

In article <loydb.08ra@fnordbox.UUCP> loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship)
writes:

>It seems like nearly every kit I've gotten in the last 6 months has some
>sort of scratch on the canopy or windshield. I've tried all sorts of
>different experiments, with varied results. I'd appreciate any hints anyone
>else has toward clearing up the plastic.

I remember hearing (somewhere) that clear fingernail polish will clear up
scratches on clear plastic.  However, I have never tried this.  Can
someone comment on this method?
--------
Shawn Larson - larsons@storm.cs.orst.edu
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: 1/72 scale bikini babes??
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:53:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.061610.718@mr.med.ge.com>, bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971) writes:
> Yes if my recolition is correct HO is 1/8"=1' or about 1/96 scale.

Actually, about 1/87 scale.
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: H.C.J.Hilberink@research.ptt.nl (Bert Hilberink)
Subject: Re: In Search of Clear Windshields
Originator: bert@loki
Organization: PTT Research, Dr.Neher Laboratories, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:43:18 GMT

In article <loydb.08ra@fnordbox.UUCP> loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship) writes:
>It seems like nearly every kit I've gotten in the last 6 months has some
>sort of scratch on the canopy or windshield. I've tried all sorts of
>different experiments, with varied results. I'd appreciate any hints anyone
>else has toward clearing up the plastic.

I am using a product called Plastic Polish produced by Bare Metal. It is meant
for polishing canopies and fuselages. BTW, instead of using 600 grade
sandpaper you can try 1200 or even 2400 (new or worn), for me it works fine.

Bert Hilberink.
E-mail: H.C.J.Hilberink@research.ptt.nl
From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: In Search of Clear Windshields
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:07:14 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <loydb.08ra@fnordbox.UUCP> loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship) writes:
>It seems like nearly every kit I've gotten in the last 6 months has some
>sort of scratch on the canopy or windshield. I've tried all sorts of
>different experiments, with varied results. I'd appreciate any hints anyone
>else has toward clearing up the plastic.

I've used toothpaste with good results, and a product called "Blue Magic"
polishing paste, which is a bit thinner and maybe finer.  If your toothpaste
polishing fogs, maybe you need to wash with soap & water?  Also, a brush-coat
of Future floor wax has been suggested to me, though I've not tried it.
As for where to find "Blue Magic", I've always seen it in hobby shops, so I
don't know if it comes from some other product market such as automotive, or
whatever.  And I always use my fingers to polish, or a Q-tip for tight spots.
I also have some polishing film, like flex-i-grit but much finer, rated in
microns rather than grit, but again I've not tried it.  One thing I have tried
that's a lot of work but effective is to follow fine (1200 grit) sandpaper
or toothpaste, with a wet-sanding using high quality bond paper that I've
attached to egg-carton styrofoam with a spray adhesive, the same as I do for
sandpaper/film.

Sorry I ran the above all together in one paragraph, but I'm in a hurry tonight.

	Bob  (IPMS#4157)
From: akwong@gundam.Eng.Sun.COM (Anthony Wong)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: New Kirin/DML kits
Date: 10 Sep 1992 01:30:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gundam

Here are some new kits from Kirin:

1/12th (150mm) U.S. Navy Seal - Desert Storm, resin, $39.98
1/16th (120mm) WW II Kubelwagon (sp?), resin, $79.98

They were sealed, so I didn't get a first hand look.

Later,
Anthony Wong
Newsgroups: alt.models,rec.models.railroad
From: dkp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.pearson)
Subject: Looking for Casting info
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: bl
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:08:46 GMT

 	I am looking for any information(books, articles, personal experience)
that explaing the processes behind lost wax, white metal, and resin casting.
Any information appreciated.

				Dave Pearson
					attmail!dpearson

Newsgroups: alt.models
From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Subject: Re: 1/72 scale bikini babes??
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:15:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.192213.7949@news.columbia.edu>, dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes...
> 
>   Does anyone know of a source for 1/72 scale bikini babes? Maybe a few
>guys in jams as well?
>  I have seen something like this, but in the scales usually used for
>car models (1/25?).
> 

Try architecture supply stores.  They probably have what you're looking for in
1/72 civilian figures.  Good luck!

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu

Newsgroups: alt.models
From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: 1/72 scale bikini babes??
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 06:16:10 GMT

matt@waikato.ac.nz wrote:
: In article <1992Sep8.192213.7949@news.columbia.edu>, dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:
: > 
: >    Does anyone know of a source for 1/72 scale bikini babes? Maybe a few
: > guys in jams as well?
: >   I have seen something like this, but in the scales usually used for
: > car models (1/25?).
: > 
: >    I want to make a humourous dune buggy halftrack, paint it in hippy
: > colors and fill it with beachgoers. I want to do it in 1/72 scale, but
: > have never seen BB's in that scale.
: > 
: > DanZ
: > 
: I would suggest checking a store that sold HO train layout stuff.  In a hobby 
: shop in Easton, Pa. (USA), I once saw some bathers scaled for use with an HO 
: layout.  Some of them were wearing bikinis, and...some of them weren't.  HO
: scale BB's might look rather petit in a 1/72 dune buggy, though.  Depends
: on your preference, really.
: 
: Matt

Yes if my recolition is correct HO is 1/8"=1' or about 1/96 scale. which
means a 5'6" babe would look like she is 4'1".  Lota of midgets, or loli-
pop kids.

Dennis
  
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From: tsai@hal.com (Finnegan T. Tsai)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Tamiya 1:12 scale F1 kits.
Date: 10 Sep 1992 18:00:38 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: molly.hal.com

In article <1992Sep9.175934.19832@lmt.mn.org>, ChazL@county.lmt.mn.org (Chaz Larson) writes:
|> I'm wondering if anyone has built one of these big Tamiya F1 kits, like the 
|> Ferrari 641/2.  These look like exciting kits to build, but saving up the 
|> $150.00 [list] price may take a while.
|> 
|> I'd like to know if anyone has built one of these, and if so, if you feel you 
|> got your $150.00 worth.
|> 
|> A related question:  With any of these high-dollar kits, I think I'd have a 
|> hard time even cutting any parts off the sprues, let alone permanently 
|> altering parts by sanding or painting :)  Does anyone else feel this kind of 
|> "fear" when starting an expensive kit?
|> 
|> chaz
|> 
|> ..must think...bubble pipe will relax me and I think...


Well, I am now building a 1/8 Rolls Royce "Ambassador" by Pocher which
contains about 2300+ parts. Since the molds are very old, almost every
part needs sanding as well as filling, then you have to spray a layer
of primer, inspect, and polish the surface. I have spent three months
on this boring job, yet only 1/3 got done. Last week I just decided
to reseal all parts back to the box and switch to some cheap AMT cars.
I think building a big kit is a challenging to yourself, especially
to your patience. As far as the building skill is concerned, frankly
speaking, there are not much differences. Sometimes, detailing a small
kit is even much harder.

The good news is usually you don't need spend too much time sanding
Tamiya's kits. Their fitness is generally great. If you still feel
the new Ferrari 641/2 is too expensive, you may try to order it
from overseas, say, Hong Kong. Hmmm.... except for the F-1 cars,
the Porsche 934 RSR is also really a jewel.


-finny
 
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: paul@brutus.tdd.sj.nec.com (Paul Gordon  x3856)
Subject: Kirin
Organization: NEC-AM TDD, San Jose, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:46:54 GMT


  I received my Kirin Iraqi T72M1 in the mail on Friday. All I can say is
that I am very disappointed. I had hoped for some sort of improvement on the
basic DML T72 standard - i.e. highly inaccurate. But it's the same old
hull and turret. The only difference are the tracks - fairly accurate
individually molded tracks - and this merits a 30%+ increase in price over
the standard DML T72. Seems like DML are learning from Tamiya - add a little
value and then jack up the price 30-50%. So it is back to AEF for accurate
hull, wheels and turret.

  Paul
From: loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Looking for '59 Tbird
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 9 Sep 92 10:03:56 CST
Organization: Texas Net Illuminati

    First, thanks to everyone who replied about the windshields! I'm going
to try a few of the methods on some old plastic, and see which works best
for me. News to follow.

    Second, my Dad wants a '59 Thunderbird 4-seater. The only kits I can
find are '56 and '57 2-seaters. Anyone know of a good '59?

Loyd

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From: livneh@oliver.rutgers.edu (Shai Livneh)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: any police car models out there?
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:55:46 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I'm looking for a scale model of 1/24 or 1/25 scale
chevrolet caprice or impala police car with a 350
engine (light bar, interior stuff optional).  Has 
anyone seen or heard anything about this model?
Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Please email to : livneh@oliver.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Testers Air Brush. What pressure?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:00:19 GMT


I just got a Model Master air brush. Anyone suggest what pressure they
found to have the best effect...


-- 
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: lee@nuchat.sccsi.com (Bill Lee)
Subject: Re: In Search of Clear Windshields
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:40:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep08.174739.26624@CS.ORST.EDU> larsons@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (Larson Shawn Michael) writes:
>In article <loydb.08ra@fnordbox.UUCP> loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship)
>writes:
>
>>It seems like nearly every kit I've gotten in the last 6 months has some
>>sort of scratch on the canopy or windshield. I've tried all sorts of
>>different experiments, with varied results. I'd appreciate any hints anyone
>>else has toward clearing up the plastic.
>
>I remember hearing (somewhere) that clear fingernail polish will clear up
>scratches on clear plastic.  However, I have never tried this.  Can
>someone comment on this method?
>--------
>Shawn Larson - larsons@storm.cs.orst.edu

I build Control Line models requiring a clear "windshield" (This is FAI
Team Race). I picked up a trick from the Stunt flyers and the RC Formula I
builders: Go ahead and sand the canopy with fine sandpaper. I use 600
wet/dry wet. The last coat of paint on the model is a clear coat (epoxy or
the various imron-type of products) sprayed over the canopy as well as the
model. All of the scratches and foggyness from the sanding just disappear.

I don't know if or how this could be applicable to the problem at hand, but
it might be worth some experimentation.

Bill Lee
From: juonsteve@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: (4thosenterested). :-)
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:58:51 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Okay, here are the current stats on whether or not C.O.R.E. would work,  Since
I got complaints about wasting board space, I'll keep it short.  98% think
C.O.R.E. would be valuable, 2% think it would be repetitive of ALT.RAP. 
Membership has increased 350%, and hopefully the dope writers involved  :-) 
will have articles for me next week.  And hey, if you're one of the few who
think C.O.R.E. would suck, do something about it!  Contribute some slamming 
articles, or even some flameing criticism.  Thaat'll keep us all on the correct
hip-hop tip.  Until next week, I'm out like Quayle at a spelling bee.

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