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From: sbambara@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu (Stephen Bambara)
Subject: lead, etc.
Originator: sbambara@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu
Organization: Dept. of Entomology - NCSU, Raleigh, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:22:33 GMT


	Regarding the lead in glazes, I was flipping through the 
channels on TV last weekend and stopped in to see what the
"Frugal Gourmet" was up to.  I forget what he was cooking, but
he showed a home test kit that you can use to check your cookware
for lead content in the privacy of your own home.  No more rabbits!
I don't believe he gave the name, but I think he said that it cost
about $50 and would test a few dozen pieces.  Perhaps someone
out there knows of this (or have we covered this ground already?)

	As for this "Buy it when you see it" philosophy....I would
admit to having missed a deal once in a while, but I have also saved
money.  I can think of two or three times when I passed up an item
that I just wasn't sure about.  I would go home, do a little checking
and find that it wasn't what I thought it was.  I just don't think
you can apply a maxim in all cases.  Rely on your judgement.  You will
make a few mistakes either way.  The best advice is to do your
homework ahead of time and know what you are looking for before you see
it.

	I do have a happy story for the "find of the week".  About
two years ago I bought a honey dish while out of town.  I hadn't
examined it closely enough and when I returned home I noticed that
the pattern on the lid wasn't exactly the same pattern as the dish.
I had paid about $50 for it, I think.  Last week I had to take my
son to school and since I had the time, stopped in to an antique store
in someone's garage which keeps irregular hours and just happened to
be open.  There on a shelf was a familiar looking lid to honey dish.
There was no bottom.  I asked the man how much he wanted.  He said,
"$1".  I bought the lid and headed for home.  Sure enough, it was the
exact match to my topless dish.  I had driven by that store five days
per week for six months and had never stopped.
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Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: esafern@shearson.com (Eric Safern)
Subject: Antique silver questions
Keywords: Silver Replating, engraving
Reply-To: esafern@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:05:49 GMT

Hi,
	I recently bought a small silver-plated goblet.  The owner claimed it was
Continental Silver, late 1800s.

	It only cost me thirty dollars, since on the inside towards the bottom, there
is a strong green color.  I assume the cup is silver plate over copper, which has oxidized.

	Would it be wise to re-plate this?  The cup itself is really nice, but I don't
want to use it as is.   The silversmith I spoke to said he removes all the silver on an
object, then replaces it with a new coat.  Will doing this destroy the beauty or value of
this object?

	I have another goblet, solid silver, on which I would like to slightly change the
engraving.  Would this destroy it?

						Thanks for your help...

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Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: plimbach@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick A Limbach)
Subject: Re: lead content in Fiesta
Keywords: fiesta
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:28:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.193947.1835@rock.concert.net> rolling@rock.concert.net (K
atherine Mohrfelv -- Personal Account) writes:
>Does anyone know what the lead content is in Fiesta (the old
>stuff)?  Is it considered safe to use on a daily basis?
>
>Thanks,
>Katie

Dear Katie,
The best source of information I have found concerning Fiesta is
"The Collector's Encyclopedia of Fiesta" by Bob and Sharon Huxford.  In it they 
note that lead in glazes can only be hazardous if not applied or fired 
correctly. Apparently, Fiesta is a fired-on glaze (vs. a shellac glaze) and 
therefore is safe for use with foods containing a high acid content.  
Furthermore, Fiesta has been tested and found to pass all Federal regulations.  
You would not want to store high acid content food on Fiesta, but use of Fiesta 
for serving food is quite safe.  Hope you enjoy your Fiesta collection, and try 
to find a copy of the book I mentioned.  It gives more complete information on 
your question.  Hope this helped.
             Pat
From: lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Lipman)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Looking for pre-1970 Matchbox cars
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:32:51 GMT
Reply-To: lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Lipman)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I'm looking for pre-1970 Matchbox cars or any information
about good sources for them.

Thanks in advance, e-mail please,

Bob Lipman                        | Internet: lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil
David Taylor Model Basin - CDNSWC | Yellnet : (301) 227-1931
Computational Signatures and      | Faxnet  : (301) 227-5753
   Structures Branch, Code 1282   | Fishnet : Stockings@legs
Bethesda, Maryland  20084-5000    |

She sells C shells by the seashore.
From: moo@king.eng.umd.edu (Deac Moo of the UGC)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Stan's Monster Hand
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:52:11 GMT
Reply-To: moo@king.eng.umd.edu
Organization: Computer Aided Design Lab, U. of Maryland College Park

In article <17e1ptINNrol@agate.berkeley.edu>, mafu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mark Fujimoto) writes:
>I read this forum only occasionally, so excuse me if this has been 
>presented before.  Anyone out there remember a Stanley Fujitake of
>Hawaii?  He's the guy that held the dice at the California H&C in Las
>Vegas for over three hours one day back in '89.  Want to know how he
>did it?  I have a copy of an inter-office memo that documents the roll
>and gives some other interesting facts as well.  If you want a copy,
>email me; if enough reply, I'll try and post it. 
>
>	-- Mark  mafu@ocf.berkeley.edu

POST IT!!!!!!!!!!

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Heaven: Playing craps with HotBabes(tm) screaming "I want you to come for MEEE."
From: David.Berger@bbs.oit.unc.edu (David Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: What football game would you bet?
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:28:13 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <10269@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> kenb@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Ken Berger) writes:
>
>I think the 49ers will beat the Giants and cover the spread too.
>

So what is the spread?



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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Subject: Re: BARGE II
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:45:44 GMT

In article <+8=n_cm.mzimmers@netcom.com>, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
|> 
|> As for my personal success, I dropped about $300 at poker, most of

  $300??? This is rec.gambling!! Surely you meant to say "3 units"!

|> which was adroitly caught by Steve "Lightfingers" Jacobs before it
|> hit the floor.  Steve was gracious enough to occasionally give me
|> smatterings of advice for improvement, as well as moral support:
|> after one particularly rookie play, I announced "well, I won't make
|> *that* mistake again," to which Steve replied, "yes, you will."
|> 
|> How far away is August '93??

  How about a Winter BARGE, so I can ski in Utah and shuttle in.

-Ron

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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: irwin@uvmark.uucp (Frank Irwin)
Subject: Re: BARGE II
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 14:43:47 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug28.071620.23202@ultra.com> howard@ultra.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.204544.659@osf.org>, ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
>|> In article <+8=n_cm.mzimmers@netcom.com>, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>|> |> 
>|> |> As for my personal success, I dropped about $300 at poker, most of
>|> 
>|>   $300??? This is rec.gambling!! Surely you meant to say "3 units"!
>
>Is it like really bad form to use cash instead of units, or could everyone
>really care less?

It depends on how paranoid you are.  Some people think that irs.com is
watching.
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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Guilty as Charged! (was Re: Kelly w/..)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 02:56:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Aug26.213659.13640@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> hack@arabia.uucp (Edmund Hack) writes:

>In article <szbnhq.mzimmers@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:

>>Which did you enjoy more, Edmund -- finishing a strong second or
>>announcing to the busted vets that it was your very first time
>>playing hold 'em?

>Guilty as charged.  As Fast Eddie said: "Money won is twice as sweet
>....".
>
>It was a carefully engineered strategem to rattle the remaining poker
>players. :-).  Actually, by that time, I was so zoned that I was almost
>in babble mode.

Does the man ever stop??  First he drills the other players with the
occasional dig that he, a hold 'em cherry, was knocking them outta
the game.  Now we get to hear that in addition to being a first-timer,
the guy was running on fumes to boot!  A definite master of demoralizing
his enemy.

That does it -- I'm switching to games of real skill.  From now on,
it's Pai Gow poker, the slots and the money wheel.

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From: lordSnooty@cup.portal.com (Andrew - Palfreyman)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Portuguese Dice and confusion
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 13:56:13 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I've been attempting to develop strategy for the game of Portuguese
Dice, but cannot seem to make progress. I have no problem doing this
with, say, Blackjack, but this one stumps me. Any comments welcome.
Here's the game:

Two or more players, each with a poker dice cup, each initially containing
six dice. Each round consists of each player in turn rolling all the dice
remaining in his cup. Order of play is that the winner of the previous round
goes first, else the first round's starter is the possessor of the lowest
total in a pre-play trial roll. Players then play in turn clockwise from
the starter.

Rules:
1. Each player maintains two discard piles: a "total" pile and a "1+4" pile.
2. At each turn a player must discard at least one die (to any pile).
3. The winner is the player with the highest total in the total pile. 
4. If anyone has a "one" and a "four" in his "1+4" pile, then his four-dice
   total beats every total of players with incomplete 1+4 piles.
5. If all players have incomplete 1+4 piles, the winner is the player with
   the highest six-dice total.
6. If all players have complete 1+4 piles, the winner is the player with
   the highest four-dice total.

An example of a strategy which needs to be evaluated:

It is the second roll.
My 1+4 pile contains a "1" only. My total pile is empty. All other players
have empty 1+4 piles, and the highest total out there is 11.
I roll the 5 dice, and get 2 "6"s, a "4" and a "3".
Do I:
a) Take "6" and "4" 
b) Take two "6"s and a "4"
c) Take "4" only
	etc.
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From: egk@remarque.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Blackjack in San Diego
Date: 24 Aug 1992 04:04:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

>....  Interestingly,
>the banker does not need to be physically present at the table - he
>just leaves enough chips there and the house supplied dealer manages
>all the payouts.  At least at this table, none of the players indicated
>any interest in banking (according to the rules, the bank rotates
>at the end of each shoe among the players who want to bank), and the
>absentee banker held the bank for the entire time I was there.

Yes, I seen the "Invisable Banker" when I was there.  What was really
strange though, was that the "IB" was an employee of the casino who
is called on when none of the players are brave enough to bank the
shoe.  Since in CA you can't have the house bank a game, this came
awful close to breaking a law!  (Horrors!)

It would seem that the best way to beat this game is to bank, but I
did see a couple of "bad shoes" and watch some guys big pile of chips
get distributed to the other players really fast.  A couple of players
beting 25$ and doubling down and the dealer busting can make a banker
cry.

But I would still rather bank this game..  

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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: notkin@cs.washington.edu (David Notkin)
Subject: The Vieira Gravestone
Summary: gambling gravestones
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 15:18:18 GMT


Today's (3 Sep 1992) Wall Street Journal has an article on customized
gravestones.  The article includes the following text (reprinted
without permission), which is associated with a picture showing the
gravestone:

	Donald Rex, owner of the Rex Mounmental Works in New Bedford,
	Mass., built a big monument for a man named Louis Vieira that
	features the Queen and Ace of Hearts -- 21 in blackjack --
	along with two pink dice.  "When his widow came into the
	office she had the ace and queen of hearts in her hand," Mr. 
	Rex says.  "She said her husband's second love in life was
	gambling and she wanted to incorporate that into the
	monument."

Got any ideas for Steve "King of the Net" Jacobs' gravestone?

 



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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: jacko@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Jacko)
Subject: Re: Guilty as Charged! (was Re: Kelly w/..)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:05:58 GMT

In article <-_cnfs.mzimmers@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.213659.13640@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> hack@arabia.uucp (Edmund Hack) writes:
>>It was a carefully engineered strategem to rattle the remaining poker
>>players. :-).  Actually, by that time, I was so zoned that I was almost
>>in babble mode.
>
>Does the man ever stop??  First he drills the other players with the
>occasional dig that he, a hold 'em cherry, was knocking them outta
>the game.  Now we get to hear that in addition to being a first-timer,
>the guy was running on fumes to boot!  A definite master of demoralizing
>his enemy.
>
>That does it -- I'm switching to games of real skill.  From now on,
>it's Pai Gow poker, the slots and the money wheel.

I like that penny-flipping game myself....

Hey, I would have done better than third place if you guys would have let
me keep my seeing-eye dog in the room.  As it was I had to keep leaning 
over to Jacobs and ask him to tell me what my cards were.

But really, it was a pleasure to meet and play with you all.  (Even though
I'm still trying to figure out who's the Griffin agent).  For those of you
who missed it, I went down the next day and played 3-6 for an hour or two
and actually won for the first time in my life, so you could say that the
poker bug is reignited.  

And also, I asked around about the legality of playing poker in the rooms 
and the concensus among casino personnel who I know is that there's nothing
wrong with it.

The amazing thing is that I was dealt a blackjack as my hole cards at 
least four times during the tournament.  It's a shame I only got to 
turn them over once or twice.

Jacko.

P.S.  Where was Mrs. Hack with the laughing gas??
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: mikes@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Sheumaker)
Subject: Las Vegas Sept.17-20
Followup-To: rec.gambling 
Summary: Anybody gonna be there? ? 
Keywords: Vegas
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:11:35 GMT

Any rec.gamblers going to be in LV Sept. 17-20? Wife and I are going to
be at the Flamingo. I could sure use some professional craps coaching.
(actually amateur coaching would be a major help :-) )
Anybody up for a beer, milkshake, and a little "Presto?"
 


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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Wong Halves... Doubled?
From: jfeldhouse@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu (Jim Feldhouse)
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:06:25 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: as little as possible

What exactly is Wong Halves(doubled)?
I suspect it is the strategy of halves in Professional BlackJack
except doubling all the counts to get rid of the halves...

Do I win a prize?
thanks
jim
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: ch2m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christopher  Houston)
Subject: Re: Review: Honeymoon in Las Vegas
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:21:11 GMT


You're right--this movie was hilarious, although it was also SO depressing
in that it made me feel homesick for the place.  (Yeah, I know I'm from 
Phoenix, but hey, I just got back from LV, so now is a particularly sensitive
time.)  Anyone else feel the same way?  BARGErs especially?


__________
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University of Virginia
Department of Psychology
e-mail: ch2m@virginia.edu
From: why@kpc.com (Will Hyde)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: JAMES ROWELL ... ALERT!
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:30:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA


Sorry about this, but JAMES ROWELL ... I blew it with your sign-up for
the tournament.

I don't have your email address....

-will

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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: shaver@tramp.Colorado.EDU (SHAVER SCOTT M)
Subject: Gambling in Colorado
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:19:24 GMT

I was in Central City/Blackhawk last Saturday and only found one single
deck blackjack game.  The game was located at Terps in Central City.  The
rules were $2-$5, NDAS, double on 10 & 11 only, and no surrender.  After the
place got crowded, the table went to $5-$5.  One dealer said that most 
gamblers that played there were afraid of single deck and preferred 
the six deck game.  

Apparently many of the casinos are losing money.  The parking is a major 
problem and a hassle for most people.  The casinos want to up the stakes
in hopes that it will bring in more money.  It might be on the ballot in 
November.  Also on the ballot this November will be whether low stakes 
gambling will come to downtown Denver.  Will keep everyone posted.

Scott Shaver
shaver@tramp.colorado.edu
 
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: PHEACOCK@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu (Philip Heacock)
Subject: Re: BARGE II
Organization: UT MEDICAL SCHOOL AT HOUSTON
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:15:25 GMT
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In <1992Aug28.144347.22206@uvmark.uucp> irwin@uvmark.uucp writes:

> In article <1992Aug28.071620.23202@ultra.com> howard@ultra.com writes:
> >In article <1992Aug25.204544.659@osf.org>, ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
> >|> In article <+8=n_cm.mzimmers@netcom.com>, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes
[munch] 
> It depends on how paranoid you are.  Some people think that irs.com is
                                                                  ^^^
I don't think anyone cares if this company is online. Now I might worry about
irs.gov

> watching.
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>  Vmark Software, Inc.          |  to ____________ ratio of all rec.gamblers."
>  irwin%uvmark@merk.com         |     - You fill in the blanks.


Phil Heacock
I'm at home so these must by mine and mine alone.
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: hall@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Michael Hall)
Subject: Cheat Paranoia and Golden Gate (was Re: Blackjack Lemmings?)
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:23:40 GMT

In article <9900062@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM> chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson) writes:

>Howdy. I too enjoyed the Golden Gate the last time I was in Vegas. Just
>out of curiousity, did you ever notice them sticking you with a "pro"
>dealer when you were doing well?

Yep.  I am somewhat paranoid of cheating there.  Notice how the "pro"
holds the cards?  Way up high, tilted back, hand twisted around with
the thumb over the front.  (Alas, these warning signs of a card mechanic
also seem to be the fashionable downtown style.)  However, I would like
to believe that the pro is merely able to count cards and preferentially
shuffle to protect the house, rather than being a card mechanic.

My first question when I play there is "how long you been dealin'?" 
And "how long you been dealin' *here*?"  Neither answer should be
greater than 6 months for this dive, in my opinion.  An answer of
"6 years" to both will send me running and screaming out the door
of this casino, but no other. The only other casino that gives me severe
ibby-jibbies is the Frontier, other than an occasional creepy dealer at
another casino.

On the other hand, I took GG for a G in half an hour on my last visit,
graveyard shift, despite a pissy attitude dealer (and I've won a lot in
the past too.)  I pushed in my winnings plus my buy-in for the dealer to
color up, before I remembered that they didn't have black chips in the
whole place; I had to stuff all my pockets with green quarter chips :-)
A tiny place like this hates to take a loss like that... forces them
to raise the price of their shrimp cocktails, ya know...

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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: decot@cup.hp.com (Dave Decot)
Subject: California Aces?
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 05:54:00 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

So, has anybody tried out the "blackjack substitute" being played at
the Garden City in Santa Clara, CA, yet?

What's the rules?

Dave