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From: ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi channel
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:14:55 GMT

In article <-403800@nemesis>, uhclem@nemesis.UUCP writes:
> 
> [0]Rattletrap Exlaxia (Battlestar Galactica).  Finally they have rights
> [0]to Dr. Who, but which ones is not specified.
> 
> According to the last info Lionheart gave my local PBS station,
> SFC only has rights to production codes A-ZZ, EXCLUDING MM.  On this
> they allegedly have a nation-wide exclusive, and have had it since
> 1990.  
> 
> Does anyone know of a US station that IS showing the Hartnells and
> Troughtons now?  This might indicate that the exclusiveness has timed-out,
> or may only indicate that the given station had secured the rights
> long ago and haven't renegotiated in at least two years.  The local PBS
> station did not know how long the exclusive-rights were for on these, but
> subsequently they have been unable to reshow the early stories and had
> planned to do so when they reached the end of McCoy recently.
> 

KUAT-TV (PBS) Ch.6 here in Tucson,AZ had to negotiate a new deal when
the the PBS station in Phoenix (where KUAT gets it's feed) dropped Dr.
Who. I think it was last year BTW. They went from the middle of one
of the later Docs to showing the 'theme' series. This includes shows
from all the Docs by subject. First they showed the 1st & last shows
for each & then all the CyberMan shows & then all the Dalek shows.
The Dalek shows just wrapped up & now the theme is "Monsters". They
aired "The Keys to Marinus" last weekend. According to the sched, pub-
lished by KUAT, they'll have shows to air until Sept of this year or
thereabouts. (I don't have the sched. here at work)

PHIL
p.s. It's interesting that KUAT is one of the last PBS stations to
have the Dr. since it was a real latecomer. It didn't start with the
Dr. until around Sept. 1987! (A local independent did air the Doc
from Jan '85 to Jan '87 though.) At the same time KUAT was one of the
few US stations that showed the Dr. way back in Fall '73 - Spring '74!
(I know because I saw them.) I was over at my parents one night in
Mar '85 when my father was 'flipping' channels. I was in the back 
of the house but I came tearing out to the living room when he just
happened to 'flip' past Ch.18 while the opening music was playing!
(I *really* got some weird looks from the other family members!)
It had been almost 11 years since I had heard it but I hadn't for-
gotten! <end of rambling>
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From: drwho@iastate.edu (Greg Bentley)
Subject: Re: Doctor Who : When & Where?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:24:58 GMT

In <sdvNl=600VpNATWkxb@andrew.cmu.edu> "Robert J. Knapp" <rk3h+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>Now I have a question, what is his "secret" that she talked about?
>>(The one the Nemesis told her) A friend of mine(Hi Ramon) once said he
>>thought that the Doc. was Rasalon, hmmmm.....

>>			brian (thats all)

>I agree fully, I have been playing with that idea since I saw (and read)
>the "Invasion Of Time" storyline.  The man seems to know to much for
>some one who did so bad in the academy.
>Rob "Money is not our God" Knapp

Formal education isn't everything.  I've always thought that the Doctor just
didn't care too much about grades and such.  (I've met plenty of very smart
people who don't do well in school.)

>Jerry Brown in '92!!!!!!!!!!!!

>LEGALIZE
>[MNIBG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
>"Life is something to be experinced through the eyes of a child."
>                   			-Me

        Greg Bentley                    drwho@iastate.edu
From: keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Ron O'Dell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Douglas Adams
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 09:26:50 GMT
Organization: The Armory

In article <890045c.702835187@aucs> 890045c@aucs.acadiau.ca (Frank Cheeseman) writes:
>>We don't know if he died, because some fool a few months ago posted
>>"Douglas Adams has terminal cancer," without giving any attribution.
>Excuse me.  I posted the article in question.  I am not a fool.
>I did not say "Douglas Adams has terminal cancer".  I ASKED if
>anyone could confirm or deny whether a statement I had heard to
>that effect was in fact true.  Pardon me for being concerned.

No, it isn't you to whom I am referring.

This whole rumor began when someone posted in various groups, saying only
"I have bad news for you all -- Douglas Adams has terminal cancer."

The person hasn't been seen since, and did not reply to requests for
sources.  This reminds me of something Adams once wrote:  "I must
stress that this is only a rumour.  I know it is for a fact because
I started it."
From: Mike_Whalen@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Mike Whalen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi channel
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:48:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: agwbbs.Mike_Whalen.0bla
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Wed  8 Apr 92 06:22, Doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick
wrote:

>I for one am very depressed that SFC is now in the hands of USA network.
>After watching the film 'The Blues Brothers' on USA that had been totally
>butchered (Ray Charles only appears in the credits, the entire music store
>and street dance was omitted, along with everything that happened in the
>jail at the start of the film that didn't have credits on top of it, plus
>other stuff), they keep the USA logo on the screen for a minute or so,

 D> Oh God!  

 D> Maybe we should all start writing RIGHT NOW!  In as few words as
 D> possible,
 D> explain to these butchers that this is in NO WAY a "TYPICAL" audience.
 D>  No
 D> doubt, the rabid loyalty of current fans is part of what they paid for
 D> when
 D> they bought the series.  If they received a few hundred letters (or,
 D> better
 D> yet, keep it brief enough to fit on a postcard) this early on saying
 D> something like: (uh-hum)

  Personally, I don't care if I ever get the Sci-Fi Channel. I have heard
some horror stories involving people on the staff believe that shows like
Mork and Mindy and I Dream of Jeannie being real science fiction. You can
pretty much bet there are dimwits running the thing if that's what they
believe.

 D>   If you MUST break Dr Who up with commercials, you better schedule
 D>   45 minutes or an hour for this "half hour" show, because if you
 D>   cut ONE SECOND from ANYPLACE, including even the credits, I will
 D>   never watch again and I will never share with my not-yet-fan
 D>   friends and I will warn my friends who are fans.  By the way, I've
 D>   seen each episode X times, I will notice ANY cuts.

  Just like I have see any Star Trek episode X number of times.. and I
would notice any cuts. Granted commercials have been in American television
ever since it's started.. but the local syndicate has all of it's shows
minced. In fact, as I understand it, this is a plot by Paramount to get
people to go out and buy the videocassettes.


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From: ptrudell@lonestar.utsa.edu (Peter J. Trudell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: A new series?
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:06:12 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


Hello,
    I am new to this newsgroup, and don't know if this has already been asked.

Has the BBC relented and starting to produce new Dr. Who episodes?

thanks in advance,
    --Peter
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From: dbarker@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Subject: Celestial Toymaker
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:03:22 GMT

Does anybody know whether the hartnell story The Celestial Toymaker still
exists? When YTV in Canada started reshowing the whole of Who form episode 1
(and, as it was the day after JFK was shot I can indeed remember watching it)
I waited for this one with baited breath, as I always considered it a real
classic. Imagine my disgruntlement when that stupid Western story popped
up on the day I was expecting TCT. i strongly suspect this is one of the
"lost" stories, but hope to hear otherwise.
 
Deryk Barker
Computer Science Dept.
Camosun College,
Victoria, BC
Canada
From: keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Ron O'Dell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Brian Blessed
Keywords: Brian Blessed English Actor Other Roles
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 04:05:36 GMT
Organization: The Armory

In article <10APR199216323226@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu> csc_richard@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Richard Huntington) writes:
>He also starred in the second season opener of Space: 1999 as Maya's father.

In the first season, he was the leader on a planet of people who were
immortal, and died when they left their world (I >think< that was it).
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From: sdc54548@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hyperion)
Subject: Re: Question on the Master
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:04:18 GMT

Well you see, the Master was at the end of his 12th regeneration and a Time
Lord can only regenerate 11 times (actually what happened was the original
Master died in a car crash so they had to come up with a story that would
explain his departure from the series until they found a replacement). So
the story line was that at the end of "Assassin" the Master escaped from 
Gallifrey and found his way to Traken where in a later story ("The Keeper
of Traken") he took over a persons body (Nyssa's Father) and was seen for the   first time after "Assassin" in "Logopolis".
					LENGTHY BUT NONETHELESS TRUE
From: schouten@sp17.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The *The* prefix in front of Time Lord's names
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:34:37 GMT
	<SCHOUTEN.92Apr14151911@sp17.csrd.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R & D

In article <SCHOUTEN.92Apr14151911@sp17.csrd.uiuc.edu> schouten@sp17.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten) writes:
> 
> In article <walshm.703277463@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> walshm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Matt 'MTM' Walsh) writes:
>> Ever notice that some timelords have 'The' names, like
> 
> Yes.

(Sorry bout that, chief)
Back to the issue at hand, I wondered about this before, but lately
I'm thinking it may just sorta relate to this whole goofy concept the
brits have of Lords and Ladies and stuff (sorta like that discussion
about whether all gallifreyans are time lords).  It seems like these
upper class blokes all have important titles like `the Duke of
Edinburough' (sp? pronounced Ed-in-burra, for us unwashed americans) or
`the Earl of Duncaster' or even `the Prince of Whales' (I guess thats
why he's always out to save the environment :-).  So I'm thinking, if
the doctor, the war chief, the rani (Just what the heck is a `rani',
anyway?) etc. are all Lords, they all gotta have titles instead of
names.  Anyway, I'm probably completely missing something thats
painfully obvious to anyone who knows what they're talking about,
so don't mind me.

``No, no.  You are A doctor, I am THE doctor.  Definite article, you
see.''

Dale Schouten
schouten@uiuc.edu
(Apologies & :-)'s to all you british types, I know it's really `wales')
From: keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Ron O'Dell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Douglas Adams
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 05:49:00 GMT
Organization: The Armory

In article <1992Apr1.025026.20002@nic.unh.edu> B_LUND1@unhh.unh.edu (Marcus Windwalker) writes:
>In <0NkiiB8w164w@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us> doctor@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us writes:
>| Hey,did anyone ever find out about Douglas Adams dying or not?
>	Then, why don't you know if he died? :-) Sorry, couldn't resist


What's funny?  That is precisely what he's asking.

We don't know if he died, because some fool a few months ago posted
"Douglas Adams has terminal cancer," without giving any attribution.

I would imagine that it was false, because since that time, there was a
television special (interview) with him ... if it had had any mention of
him dying, I'm sure people here or rec.arts.tv.uk would have said something.
From: uhclem@nemesis.UUCP
Date: 06 Apr 92 20:38 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Anyone recognise these episodes?
Message-ID: <-403799@nemesis>
From: whitehec@cs.man.ac.uk (C.J.Whitehead)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: New Adventures
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:32:15 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester


Is it just me, or are the New Adventures books getting
too far away from the traditional idea of Doctor Who?

Timewyrm: Revelation and Cats Cradle:Time's Crucible were
surreal to say the least.  What's happened to the old type
of plot: "Doctor lands somewhere, gets involved in events,
sorts out events, Doctor leaves"

Ok, in books you can do things not possible on TV, but does
this mean we should suddenly allow the Tardis to die and
have a ghost, and other stupid things like that.  If the
current trend continues, there is a danger of totally destroying
27 years of continuity.

To be fair, although Cats Cradle: Warhead wasn't as exciting
to read as the previous two, it was more traditional albeit
set in a future that would be impossible to realise on TV.
Witchmark is even more so, with a return to the faithful
"Lands, gets involved, leaves" style of storytelling.


What do others think about this?  Should we forgive these
authors for completely altering our idea of the Doctor?


Some news about the new adventures after Witch Mark: the
"umbrella" theme will be stopped, with a few standalone
stories coming.  The first of these will feature the 
departure of Ace and the arrival of a new companion.


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From: bi341@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve G. Crutchfield)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Pertwee, etc.
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:06:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr9.010650.8327
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)



Just some general comments:

First of all, bringing back Pertwee as the Doctor would be very
interesting, and perhaps a good move as well.  I always really
liked the Pertwee episodes, but they were never what they could
have been, largely because of the dreary music and poor special
effects.  If Pertwee were brought back and played the Doctor
amidst the exciting music and visuals of the McCoy episodes, 
we could have a great show.

Brian Blessed would be interesting too, as long as he didn't
act too silly (as his character did in the Trial of a Time Lord).

I disagree with the statement that the show should be made fore-
boding.  The upbeat and exciting episodes of recent years (like,
for instance, Remembrance of the Daleks) are, IMHO, much better
(in atmosphere if not in plot) than the some of the duller and
drearier gothic-type "horror" episodes of the Baker years. 
Like "The Horror of Fang Rock," "The Ark in Space," and that 
vampire one whose title escapes me.
From: jhitch@crash.cts.com (Jeffrey Hitchin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Brian Blessed
Keywords: Brian Blessed English Actor Other Roles
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:05:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr11.170536.13590
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <1992Apr10.222034.375@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:

>For those who want to go a bit further afield than SF (which so far is
>all I've seen so far as references to BB are concerned), Brian Blessed
>does a magnificent turn as Caesar Augustus in the first five episodes
>of "I, Claudius".

>Tim Lynch

	And on more non-SF stuff, he was in a two-hour episode of
"Lovejoy" as an unscrupulous art dealer.  I can't remember the name
of the episode, but it had Linda Grey in it.
From: jblum@lucy.umd.edu (Jon Blum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Doctor Who : When & Where?
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:55:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <bperles.703108135@vincent1.iastate.edu> bperles@iastate.edu (Brian P Perles) writes:
>>That was Lady Peinforte, at the end of "Silver Nemesis", the series
>>before, saying,  "Doctor who?  Have you never wondered who he is?"
>>or words to that effect.  I don't think she was naming him "Doctor
>>Who"; she was merely posing a rhetorical question.

>	I just saw it, and she said, "I know your secret, Dr Who"
>She said Dr. Who as a proper name.  I heard latter that that(?) show
>was writen to play on the mystery of Dr. Who's history.  

Well _I_ just saw it too, and in the episode I saw, the dialogue goes
something like this:

Ace: Tell 'er, Doctor!
Peinforte: (smiles evilly) Doctor who?  Have you never wondered who he is?
Where he comes from?
Ace: Well he's a Time Lord.
Peinforte: (shakes her head)
Ace: Nobody knows who the Doctor is.
Peinforte: Except me.

>	Now I have a question, what is his "secret" that she talked about?
>(The one the Nemesis told her) A friend of mine(Hi Ramon) once said he
>thought that the Doc. was Rasalon, hmmmm.....
Curse of Fenric SPOILER:

Read the excellent novel of "The Curse of Fenric".  It all but says that the
Doctor we knew is now controlled by some other presence from the beginning
of time, the Time of Chaos.  I think that's the secret.  There are more
clues in the Remembrance of the Daleks novel, Timewyrm: Revelation, and
Cat's Cradle: Time's Crucible.
From: soholt@phakt.usc.edu (Timothy Soholt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Master's Past
Date: 13 Apr 1992 15:02:48 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu
Keywords: Master history regeneration delgado ainley

In article <1992Apr13.061525.2178@cs.ucf.edu> wilson@cs.ucf.edu 
(tom wilson) writes:


>the Monk dies in The Daleks' Masterplan. I
>haven't been able to get the second part of the novel to find out for myself,
>but I guess he, like the War Chief, didn't regenerate (which brings about the
>discussion that a Timelord killed outright won't regenerate). 

Both the War Chief and the Monk were, if I remember correctly, "killed"
and immediately taken "off-stage," as it were. Regeneration takes time,
as we have seen several times in the course of the show. Both of these
two renegades could have regenerated after the action of the show
switched to another locale.

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From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Subject: Re: Dalek books
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 23:29:31 GMT


In a previous article, mavin@netcom.com (Connector Distribution Corp) says:

>
>	I am attempting to find out if the 2nd Doctor Dalek stories are really
>going to be novelized.  I had heard some years ago that Peel was given the
>go-ahead by the script writer's wife, but Terry Nation's agent stepped in and
>killed the deal.  If they are going to be published, then there will be more
>than a few happy fans in the world...
>


YES!!! (and it's about time too). John Peel has been given the go
ahead by Terry Nation to novelize "Power" & "Evil Of The Daleks". He
(Peel) confirmed this at Whoosiercon II a few weeks ago. Still no
word on "Resurrection" or "Revelation".

"It looks like we're gonna ned a new Timmy!"
               --Mr. Lizard
                 Dinosaurs
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From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Subject: Re: Quote from Shada?
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 01:29:12 GMT


In a previous article, bi341@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve G. Crutchfield) says:

>
>
>Regarding Jeffrey Smith's signiature:
>
>Romana: "I thought you said we were coming here for May week?"
>Doctor: "I did, May week's in June."
>                                    **The Five Doctors**
>        Jeffrey Smith   --KD4AYH--  doc@catt.ncsu.edu
>
>I believe that quote is actually from Shada.  I think that Tom Baker
>wasn't available for the filming of the Five Doctors, so they used
>never-before-aired archive footage of him and Lalla Ward from Shada,
>and then kept his character conveniently hidden through the rest of
>the show.
>
>Can anyone corroborate me on this one?  I'm just curious.
>
>


You're correct, it is from Shada, but since Shada was never aired
Jeffery Smith is also technically correct in attributing the quote
to The Five Doctors.

"It looks like we're gonna need a new Timmy!"
               --Mr. Lizard
                 Dinosaurs
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From: johnsos@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (johnson scott andrew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.science
Subject: Re: Parallel Universes
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:25:58 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

In article <1992Apr15.130714.18840@onetouch.COM> csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith) writes:
>I cannot believe in the multiverse theory.  Why? First, it requires an
>additional spacial dimension, along which the multiverse's exist,
>hypothetically stacked like cards.  There is nothing in present physics which
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>would account for the essentially quantum divisions along that dimension 
>which would be necessary to keep the universes distinct.
>Secondly, if they did exist, without a method of getting to them, they may
>as well not exist.  If we could build a machine that could do that, we can
>build one that can travel through time (space and time are the same "stuff")
>and Larry Niven gave an excellent rebuttal to time travel in an essay.
>
>Can anyone remember where I can find that essay again? It was great!
>-- 
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THAT'S IT!!!!!

The Universe....   is a giant HYPERCARD stack!!!!

(which means, of course, that it wasn't implemented on a PC   |>    )


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