From: sahmed@edvac.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed)
Subject: Re: My objections to the survey... (just an opinion)
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:51:48 GMT
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In article <1dedfkINNqkj@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:

>In article <SAHMED.92Nov6114225@occs.cs.oberlin.edu>, sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed) writes:
>> In article <1dcu9eINNpet@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
>>>  To me it seems it is
>>> just an ideal excuse for groups of people to fingerpoint at others as
>>> people they dislike and hence promote some kind of "ranking" on SCB,
>>> 
>> Isn't that what all those "scb awards" postings were about?

>Why, Saif, did you feel addressed by any of the categories?  I don't
>really recall fingerpointing in a particularly negative way in any of
>the categories I suggested other than in good humor.  Or perhaps you
>felt addressed by one of the categories even though your name wasn't
>mentioned?  I wonder what that could be...
>Surely, there is a difference between humorous "awards" articles, and
>an organized survey that requests people to officially list their
>likes and dislikes about scb?

Whether I felt addressed or not is irrelevent. It was still
fingerpointing. And your categories are not in question here. I was
just wondering what made you support one kind of finger pointing and
not the survey. Did you feel addressed by something in the survey?

>>> Surveys are useful
>>> if they can be employed to improve upon something.  Any attempt to do
>>> that would violate the very spirit of scb.  
>> 
>> Don't understand this statement, this is how I interpret it. "Any
>> attempt to improve on something would violate the very spirit of scb."
>> Is that what you meant to say?

>Not surprising that you would interpret it that way...  wouldn't be
>the first time you took something out of context... :)  

Add the context and lets look for a different interpretation. Not the
first time you accused me of the crime either. Perhaps some of us
Bangals don't learn how to interpret english properly. What an
individual posts may improve the quality of scb.  Of course such an
improvementwould be a violation of the "spirit of scb". 

>The point here
<some stuff deleted next paragraph "out of context" There I saved
Shakil from writing it>

The point is taken. My point is this. The survey could not have done
any more harm than the scb awards could have done. It may not do any
good other than to satisfy the authors curiosity. As for improvements,
why worry about the authors authority to implement any improvements
when they don't have the capability to do so.

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| | Saifuddin Ahmed                                                        |
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