From: mehdi@admin.kth.se (Mehdi Alipour)
Subject: Re: chAleh meydoon
Keywords: gerdAli
Reply-To: mehdi@admin.kth.se (Mehdi Alipour)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:12:56 GMT

In article <7940@charon.cwi.nl>, farhad@cwi.nl (Farhad Arbab) writes:
>In article <amoojoon.158@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh>, amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed) writes:
> 
> <stuff deleted>
>
>|> 
>|> The late Dr. Shokri who taught amoo "adabiyAteh FArsi" was also a member of 
>|> "farhangestAneh zabAneh IrAn". Once he told amoo (who at that time was 
>|> religiously trying to speak pure FArsi) that not all phrases would make 
>|> sense if we tried to convert it to FArsi; he then gave me an example 
>|> involving the word "gerdAli" which to this date brings smile to my face. He 
>|> said: "bebin pedar jAn agar shomA beri edAreh dArAyee ghesmati hast beh 
>|> nAmeh dAyereh mAliyAteh mostagheem". He then explained that the government
>|> (that of ShAh) had asked them to transliterate whatever Arabic terms they 
>|> found into FArsi. According to the late Dr. a group of "tAzeh kAr" liguists 
>|> came up with the following FArsi substitute: "gerdAliyeh bAjeh sikhaki", 
>|> which is technically correct but at the same time it's absolutely hilarious.
>|> 
>
>Actually the (in)famous Farhangestan was not during the Shah's
>years, but during his father's, Reza Shah.  There are many such
>stories, most of which are pure fiction, but, of course, they
>are entertaining.  Another famous one is the following.
>
>Here is a (partial) list of allegedly official Farhangestan "pure
>Persian" equivalents for some of the concepts in geometry.
>
>	Circle		dAyereh		gerdekAn
>	Line		khat		derAzi
>	Point		noghte		bi hame chiz (without anything)
>	Tangent		momAs		mAlidan
>
>Consequently, the statement "We make a tangent line from a point to
>a circle."  which is "az noghte-i khatti bar dAyereh-i momAs
>mikonim." becomes "az bi hame chizi derAzi bar gerdekAni mimAlim."
>
>(Check with someone fluent in Persian slang to find the double
>meaning here.)  Imagine the fun that the immature "hungry" teen-agers
>used to have with this statement (and the like) in sexually
>segregated high-schools back then.


	I remeber this "story" in this way that 'zendeh_yAd' Dr. HesAbi,
have had sugessted 'sikhaki' for line and 'hichaki' for point. Then the
sentence We make a tangent line from a point to a circle could be
' az hichaki, sikhaki bar gerdaki bemAlAnim ' !.

ShAdzi.

>Cheers,
>
>Farhad Arbab
>Interactive Systems
>Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science
>Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam
>The Netherlands
>Email: farhad@cwi.nl                    Fax:   +31 20 592-4199
>Phone: +31 20 592-4056                  Telex: 12571 mactr nl
>
>

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