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From: aissa@batph84.bnr.ca (Al Issa)
Subject: Re: Quit pickin' on the poor 'Canes
Organization: bnr
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:17:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.185017.15950@infonode.ingr.com>, tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com (Tony Bowman) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan5.150339.22620@newssun.med.miami.edu>, dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown) writes:
|> |> In article <ASH.93Jan4144721@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> >Come on, people, leave those poor 'canes fans alone.  Yeah, they were
|> |> >overconfident, and yes, they talked trash, and ok, they didn't give
|> |> >Alabama any respect.  And yes, they deserve to eat huge mounds of
|> |> >crow, and sure, Gino didn't deserve the Heisman.  But are those good
|> |> >reasons to pick on them now?
|> |> 
|> |> Alabama won, I have to admit.  But, I tell you what --
|> |> I would take Miami in a second in there were to be a rematch.  I STILL think
|> |> Miami is the better team (although if I were an AP poll voter, I would be
|> |> reluctantly obliged to vote Miami #1).  
|> |> 
|> |> I'm usually not a "woofer" (and I sure as hell don't know exactly what a 
|> |> "woofer" is or what the whole "woo" religion is about), but go to hell 
|> |> Alabama!!   You better hope we don't see you in the Sugar Bowl next year!
|> |> 
|> |> ;7)
|> |> 
|> 	Listen up asshole.  Your canes lost. Can't you get that through
|> 	your thick head. You lost then and you would lose today and the
|> 	next and so on.  Next year will be a different team.  THIS YEAR
|> 	ALABAMA IS THE MNC AND THERE ISN'T ONE DAMN THING YOU OR ALL OF
|> 	YOUR BLOWHARD FRIENDS CAN DO ABOUT IT. SO, shut the f*ck up and
	

	Is this an example of Alabama's "more-class-than-the-rest" fans?


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Al Issa
BNR Inc.
Norcross, Georgia
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gibson@b11.b11.ingr.com (Stanley)
Subject: Re: Bama recruits by Curry; was: Miami strategy?
Reply-To: gibson@b11.b11.ingr.com (Stanley)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:35:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.211053.9348@leland.Stanford.EDU> daveshao@leland.stanford.edu (David Shao) writes:
>
>Can someone post again which of Alabama's starters on defense were
>recruited by Stallings and which were recruited by Stallings'
>predecessor, Curry? 

I will presume all the seniors on the squad are curry recruits. That
would include the two ends Curry and Copeland, two linebackers Oden
and London and one DB Teague. Don't assume these players would not
be at Alabama if Bill Curry had not recruited them.

On the offense Bama loses 5 starters. RB Lassic,  FB Houston, TE
Busky, OL Wilson, WR Wimberly.

>how Curry would have done with this year's team?  
Curry's teams with Homer Smith as OC were more pass oriented. He
might have been dissatisfied with Barker and benched him. The result
may have been more offensive firepower. But who knows? Sometimes you
changer a QB and things get worse. One thing is for sure. Curry
could not have done any better than Stallings this year.
>
>I'm not criticizing Gene Stallings in any way.  As a Phoenix Cardinals
>fan, I am still disappointed in his being fired.  
Yes,  it was ugly. 

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From: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Re: Bledsoe to the NFL
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 01:53:40 GMT

In article <5JAN199311414688@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.181959.9203@serval.net.wsu.edu>, jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes...
>>Minutes ago, Washington State junior QB Drew Bledsoe announced that he
>>will indeed make himself eligible for the upcoming NFL draft.  With a
>>somewhat shaky voice, he first enumerated the reasons for staying and
>>for leaving:
>> 
>>For staying                          For leaving
>>----------------------------------------------------------------
>>College life                         Challenge of next level
>>Chance for records/awards            Risk of college injury
>>Give something back to school        Will certainly be drafted very highly
>>$ should be same either year         Good 2nd string QB in Pattinson (won't be
>>  (esp. with new NFL ruling)           leaving team w/nothing, and Pattinson
>>                                       will get his chance now)
>Um, Education?
>College Degree?
>
>Let him go.  Universities don't need minor leaguers, they need student-
>athletes.

Take it easy, guy.  Drew was in the middle of a press conference at which
he was making the biggest announcement of his life.  He was more than a
little nervous, and was just trying to elaborate on his decision... don't
rip him just because he didn't list every single reason for being in school.
Drew is a very bright guy, and if you had ever listened to him or talked to
him, you would know this.  Whatever team does get him will be very lucky to
get a fine football player and a quality person.

Jim 
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Jim Jungbauer               | Go Vikings, North Stars, Twins, Cougars!
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EECS Department             | "Nice move by Bellows... big drive... SCORES!"
Washington State University |    -- Mike Emrick, 1991 Norris Division Finals
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From: harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison)
Subject: Re: Sugar Bowl comments
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:07:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.180211.9106@b11.b11.ingr.com>
jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.231936.23927@dbsun.uucp>
> harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison) writes:
> > 
> > No, I would say your sample size of 1 game was representative of the
> > entire season.  Barker only played QB one year in high school, and he
> > played in an offense that mostly ran the ball.  Hopefully Stallings
> > will find a suitable replacement.  One of the new recruits appears to
> > have great QB potential.
>
> Phil,
>  You can't be trying to get rid of Barker!  He can't run, he can't throw,
> but he's 17-0 as a starter; what more could you ask for?

Well now that you mention it, here is my 1993 Bama Christmas List.

[1] a quarterback that can throw (to our own receivers),
[2] a quarterback that can run,
[3] a clone of Kenny Stabler,
[4] season tickets (plus airfare),
[5] daily airdrops of Dreamland ribs.  (had to mention barbeque :-)

I've been a really good boy this year so maybe the Bama Santa will be
good to me this year.  :-)

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From: betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz)
Subject: Re: record comeback
Organization: SigSauer Fan Club 
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:56:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.1539.20614@execnet> "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com> writes:
>It has been widely reported that Frank Reich has now led the greatest
>comebacks in both NFL, and NCAA history.
>

that's what i've heard.  that buffalo comeback *was amazing*!


>I thought that Maryland's back from 31 - Zip  versus Miami
>in 1984 was a record at the time, but that it had since been eclipsed.

not that i'm aware of.  TOSU has equalled it, though.  they were
down 31-0 to minnesota (at minnesota) and came back and won.
i forget which season this was - 1989 perhaps?  greg frey was
the quarterback.  

>Perhaps Reich still has the record if you only count Division 1-AA. 

i thought the terps were 1-A(?).

drew 
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From: tjbowman@emt.b17c.ingr.com (Tony Bowman)
Subject: Re: We can take it (was Re: Pl explain the Bama penalty in Sugar Bowl)
Reply-To: tjbowman@emt.b17c.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:49:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.173027.19782@Princeton.EDU>, Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu> writes:
|> In article <1993Jan4.200338.19418@infonode.ingr.com> Tony Bowman,
|> tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com writes:
|> >	I agree except that it is a penalty.  He spun the ball, they
|> >	threw the flag.  BUT, Miami's guy that ran in their ONLY touch-
|> >	down did the same thing and wasn't flagged.  But then again,
|> >	it wouldn't have mattered would it Gino?
|> 
|> 	I'm not sure if the rule is written or not, but it is generally accepted
|> that if the clock is dead (ie after a TD) spiking is allowed as long as
|> it is not rehearsed or planned (like a dance or something).
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 	BTW I can understand all the woofing and 'Cane bashing that has been
|> going on 'cause we 'Canes sure do dish it out.  For anyone who doesn't
|> understand why look at Miami's record over the last 10 years.  This loss
|> is the toughest for us since Vinny choked, but we can take it.  I had the
|> wonderful pleasure of being in Indiana for New Years and the Notre Dame
|> bandwagoneers were glad to serve me up some nice crow dinners.  I took it
|> like a man because I understand that y'all haven't had the chance to bash
|> back (for a legitimate reason) for two years.  So enjoy it until the
|> fall, I will be glad to hear from everyone in another two years...
|> 
|> Oh Yeah, can you say HEISMAN boys and girls?  Cry all you want, we got
|> it!!  :p  :)
|> 
	Congratulations on being a man.  You are alone down there !!!
	You are to be commended.  I wouldn't look forward too much though,
	you guys loose some very key players I understand.  Well, Roll on
	and I'm sure our paths will cross again.  8^)

	BTW- "we" don't have the Heisman, Gino somebody has it.
		Bama has the MNC, which most would agree is worth
		alot more !!!  Roll Tide !!
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From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Sugar Bowl comments
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:20:39 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1993Jan7.182508.15471@b11.b11.ingr.com> guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.061458.5597@dbsun.uucp>, harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison) writes:
>|> In article <1993Jan6.014248.23179@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
>|> niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr) writes:
>
>|> Jackson is more at home covering SEC games, and we are more than happy
>|> to have him.  If the rest of the country doesn't appreciate his style,
>|> then we'll be happy to take Jackson and give you Mushbrain.
>
>    Agreed, I turned off the sound of the game Mushmouth and Dick Schlamiel
>broadcast this year and listened to the Alabama football network on the radio.
>I was terrified that they would be broadcasting the Sugar Bowl because I had
>heard rumors that Jackson would be doing the Rose (yawn) Bowl.  Fortunately, it
>didn't come to pass and Jackson was where he belonged.  Jackson gets my vote as
>the best as well.

Add me to the list of those who think KJ is synonymous with college football. 
His style is perfect for good ole Southern football and the college games 
without him don't even seem like college games to me. Keith is the man!!!!



-- 
Ronnie
-------------------------------------------------------------
Whenever the fates hear someone say, "It can't get any worse than this..." 
They just laugh and double your misery! 


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From: kollur@jec321.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri)
Subject: Miami should be #2
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:35:33 GMT

This year we have an undisputed national champion in Alabama (Roll Tide!)
I kinda miss all those arguements about Colorado/Georgia Tech and
Miami/Washington from previous years. 
 So how about #2. Don't you all feel that Miami deserves to be #2 ahead
of a Florida State team that they beat. Things would be perfect then.
Undefeated Alabama #1
one loss Miami     #2 (only loss to #1)
one loss FSU       #3 (only loss to #2)

The polls robbed Miami of a #2 ranking that they earned by beating FSU.

Ramana
Roll Tide!

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From: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: A PAC-10 fan in depression
Reply-To: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 22:28:41 GMT

In article <DOEL.93Jan4091325@bbq.bae.bellcore.com> doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel) writes:
> >I don't know.  Maybe it's because nobody has been struck by stray bullets
> >while on a recruiting trip to Washington.  Blame Larry Smith all you want,
> >but being located in the heart of south central Los Angeles (i.e. where the
> >riots originated) has to make it difficult to recruit people who didn't grow
> >up in that atmosphere.

On the other hand, soon after moving to LA from Philadelphia in early 1986,
I spotted a squib in the LA Times about USC recruiting. Apparently they
had two prospects from Philly out for a visit, and were apologizing to them
for the neighborhood around the campus, undoubtedly pointing out that
the beach was a short way away, etc.

The prospects quoted response? "Shoot, in Philadelphia this'd be the suburbs."
(I suspect the first word was edited). Having lived in Philly and seen the
area around the SC campus, I tended to be in agreement with them.

tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
From: ckoontz@aud.alcatel.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami Sugar Bowl Question
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:24:46 GMT

jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:

>tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:

>>My question is if Miami is the Hurricanes why is there mascot a bird?

>>GT

>Probably for the same reason Bama's is an elephant !!!    :-)

I was doing some research the other night and came across some information
which could explain the usage of an elephant for the Alabama Crimson Tide
mascot.

Apparently, in the 6th century in India, the Sultan's pack of Indian
elephants escaped and were charging aimlessly around the city of Delhi.
The elephants were decorated in crimson, the Indian color of royalty.
The citizens of Delhi had to flee the charging band of elephants and
were reported to have warned others of the approaching "crimson tide",
an obvious allusion to monsoon season in India.

To this day, a pack of wild elephants is referred to as a "crimson tide"
throughout the Indian region of Asia.

--
Carl Koontz
ckoontz@rdxsun40.aud.alcatel.com
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From: dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown)
Subject: Re: Miami strategy?
Organization: University of Miami, School Of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:59:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.162214.16975@cbnews.cb.att.com> tpp@cbnews.cb.att.com (thomas.p.pschar) writes:
>
>
>Here's the real question.  Why didn't Miami stack about eight guys on the
>line of scrimmage every down during the second half?  Or was somebody actually
>afraid Alabama might pass?

That is the real question.  Miami's defensive strategy was questionable at 
best -- Bama's QB was never tested the entire game!  

That's one of the reasons I think that Erikson was out-coached.  I think 
UM should have crowded the line defensively and gone to short, quick 
passing plays on offesnse, neither or which happened.  Stallings, on the
other hand, was completely prepared for the UM offesive attack and 
completely worked the UM defense with (oh my God, I couldn't believe it)
running plays!  Wow!

I heard that the officials told the UM coaching staff before the game that 
no penalties would be given for a noisy crowd.  Is that true?  From what I
understand, if they offensive captain complains three times about noise, the
defense gets penalized ... if so, do the referees have the authority to 
nullify that rule?  The noise was certainly a help for Alabama.  Despite 
what many of the netters think, much of Gino's unimpressive play can be
attributed to miscommunications with his receivers (I agree, three inter-
ceptions leading to 21 points is the sign of bad play).

Dan
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: 'Bama in the computer rankings
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:06:49 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

kollur@aix.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri) wrote:
}
}The Times ranking , IMO, seems closer to the polls then other computer
}rankings because the Times considers opponents record only till the
}point they play a given team, i.e. If you play a 5-0 Penn State team in Week 6
}you get a lot of credit for it even if Penn State goes on to lose 5 of
}their next seven. How your opponents do after they play you will not affect
}your ranking ...
}If I am wrong, feel free to correct me. 

I believe you are wrong.  What the NYT does with the records which
is different from some other ratings is to throw out the opponent-vs-opponent
games in the record of a team's opponents.  (Is that clear enough?)
So for instance the .500 record of a conference's teams against
one another do not add in to the Combined Opponents' Record total.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

   "Eenie weenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak."
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From: acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Big Ten Review (1-4-93)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Jan 1993 09:30 EST  

In article <79165@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes...
>doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel) wrote:
>}
>}Notice a pattern?  Also, in today's (1/5) edition of the USA Today, the TV
>}sports column points out how low the TV ratings for all the games were.  The
>}Miami/Alabama game was the lowest rated #1 vs #2 ever, the Rose Bowl ratings
>}were down about 15%, the Orange Bowl ratings were way down, etc.

My interpretation of this is just that there are too many games on the same 
day.  Time was when the bowls stretched through December, and only the Big 
Four were on New Year's Day.  Year by year, in an effort to increase their 
prestige, more and more games have been moved to Jan 1, dividing the 
audience.  Given the opportunity, I'd have watched probably six of the 
eight NYD games.  As it was, I was cruising on the remote, and saw only 
four, with fragments of the others during commercials.

>}This doesn't bode well for the bowl coalition.  Although the cause/effect
>}relationship is questionable, it seems like poor ratings a few years in a
>}row are going to force the NCAA's hand in regards to a playoff.

They would be forced to do something, but what should be done is subject to 
the same questionable judgment that sees poor ratings as a result of the 
coalition.  They may go back to the old bowl selection process (i.e. based 
purely on TV draw, and not at all on rankings).


>I also don't follow the logic that a playoff system would get better
>TV ratings.  If an undisputed MNC game of #1 vs. #2 draws poor
>ratings, why should we expect playoffs to do any better?

If it were a tournament, the early rounds _would_ suffer in terms of the 
audience size.  But, if it culminated in a #1 vs #2 on NYD, without 7 other 
games on at the same time, it would definitely pull a larger share than the 
Sugar Bowl did.  The draw of the intermediate rounds is the key to the 
success (financial, anyway) of a tournament-type playoff.

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From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Re: Sugar Bowl comments
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:42:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.231936.23927@dbsun.uucp> harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison) writes:
>In article <1i5hdsINNdie@haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu>
>ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai) writes:
>
>The ABC commentators placed most of the blame on the Miami receivers
>being "whipped" (Jackson's term) by the Alabama secondary. 

And ABC and Keith Jackson are the biggest biased organization and person
to boot.  Whenever a Big 8 team plays a non-Big 8 team, Jackson and 
company can't even give the decency of two or more interviews or
favorable comments about the Big 8 team.

When it's Nebraska against anybody, including another Big 8 team, they
cannot have any comments at all about the Huskers.

I'd hate to have them broadcast my son's Little League baseball games;
they'd probably put down 10-16 year old kids also.

Go Big Red of the North!

Dave
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From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: tOSU underclassmen in the draft
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:44:36 EST
Distribution: na
Organization: ACME Products

In article <1993Jan4.130831.2723@cis.ohio-state.edu>, atchison@lyre.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison) writes:
> 
> All local media is reporting that Ohio State will lose two underclassmen to
> the NFL draft this week.  More or less as expected, third year sophomore Robert
> Smith (running back) and fourth year junior Roger Harper (safety) will forego
> the remainder of their collegiate eligibility.
> 

	I guess Mr. Smith has lost his convictions about "education first".

	Good riddance.

	Anyone have tickets to the OSU-Washington game? :)

Brett
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From: jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher)
Subject: Alabama
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:10:44 GMT


Awesome! What a great team! What speed! What talent! What coaching! Guess
they're doing something down there besides chewing on Dogwood twigs and
catching mudcats on a string tied to their big toe.

Dear Miami:

   Haha!
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