From: res_ewv@exodus.valpo.edu
Subject: Re: I could've figured this would happen
Organization: Valparaiso University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:05:02 GMT
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In article <1992Nov18.045630.18550@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:

I wrote:
>>This was a real dick move, Ted.  Sure, you may
>>have slammed Daemon and his buddies, but think of yourself receiving an e-mail
>>message saying "Ted, read this newsgroup and you will see exactly what other
>>people think of you."  Of course you can now read a.f.c and find this out, but
>>the difference is that anyone who rips on you knows you will read it.

Ted wrote (in NEWS) and similarly in private communication:

> Thanks.  I didn't e-mail Omar.  Nor do I know who did.  Why assume it
> was me?

Because of this article posted by Daemon

>       Someone from University of Chicago emailed Omar and told him to read
>this group.  REAL nice thing to do to someone on finals week.

[...irrelevant material removed...]

>       It is unfortunate that Mr.Frank stereotyped Rose students as racists.
>Some, in defense, felt compelled to tell the real reasons for not liking
>Omar.  It is unfortunate that some person with MOCK-sensitivity, who acted
>under the pretense of helping the O-man, was the person who gave him the most
>pain.  It is unfortunate that some university of chicago law school dick made
>an issue where there was none.
>
>        OH and by the way, Ted, is everyone at the University of Chicago a
>dick, or just you?

I hereby apologize for assuming that you did this, but from this info, it
seemed to me that you had written to Omar.  Again, I am sorry for this
misunderstanding.  I suppose if I had read more carefully, I might not have
assumed that you were the U of C law student in question.


Back to Mr. Frank's post

>>Think of how Omar must feel?  I hope you are proud of yourself.
>
> I've never said anything against (or for) Omar -- I've only made fun
> of the people who did.  And noted how thin-skinned they were.  Nor
> did I post Omar's e-mail address.

I would say that making fun of someone and attacking them (which is what you
have done) is different.

> I didn't e-mail Omar.  Perhaps you can apologize to me, but somehow
> I don't suspect that you will.

See above.  I am not afraid to admit it when I am wrong.

>>Lawyers are often stereotyped as heartless bastards.
>>I think in this case, this is probably true.

> I don't think it was a lawyer who e-mailed Omar, because as far as I
> know, I'm the only U of C Law student who bothers reading
> alt.folklore.college, which is nowhere near as entertaining as
> alt.folklore.urban.

Daemon seems to suggest it was, but it doesn't really matter.

PS:  If you can't find my original post, it is because I am now going to try
and delete it.  I will post an edited version which does not chastise Mr.
Frank, but the jerk who did this in the first place.



                              Eric W. Vaandering
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