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From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Funny walks
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:23:40 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Are cats do this also, we call it the "witch cat" walk.  The even have
been known to kinda hop sideways.  I think they think that they are
really scary looking to the other cats.  

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From: LHAAS@kentvm.kent.edu (Leslie M. Haas)
Subject: New cat--help will not sleep at night
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:18:47 GMT

My friend is a brand new owner of a baby kitten, approximately 6
weeks old and it is named Malcolm.  She wants advice on how to
train it not to jump on her while she is sleeping!  We have
all given her advice at work (everyone owns at least one cat)
but to no avail.  It is time to seek advice from the experts.
Thanks in advance......
 
Leslie (Maynard, Puddin and Patches)
From: geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:04:41 GMT
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <ERICJ.92Aug21134729@lagos.cfsat.Honeywell.COM>, ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen) writes:
> 	<26832@life.ai.mit.edu> <1992Aug20.211625.24420@super.org>
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:47:29 GMT
> Lines: 23
> 
> In article <1992Aug20.211625.24420@super.org> judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger) writes:
> 
>    Great list, Marie, but you left out "sitting like a bug".  This is
>    when they scrunch down, almost in sphinx position, but their front
>    pays just kind of collapse underneath them.  My mom named that nearly
>    a million years ago and I still think it's appropriate for that
>    position.
> 
> I call that the "quadriplegic cat" when it looks like a body sitting there with
> no legs. My wife says "legless kitty" or "poor kitty has no legs"...
> 

I thought everyone called this "the meatloaf" :-)
-- 
P.K.
Geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Rescue cat
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:33:15 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug10.212455.17035@gtephx.UUCP> 
	machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic) writes:
>
>Why do you bathe your cats and kittens? I've never bathed mine, as
>they seem to take care of it themselves, and I'm just curious. Seems
>like a lot of work and scratches...(I read the FAQ a long time ago
>and don't remember if/what it says about this.)

Here's one answer for you:  Historically, I have been quite allergic
to cats.  I have read that a regular bathing schedule (once a month
or so) reduces the amount of the offending protien present in cat
saliva (the stuff I'm actually allergic to) to the point where it
should not be irratationg to those of use with said allergies.  So
far so good, though my cat (kitten actually) is still small enough
that it might not be a problem now anyway.  I am waiting to see how
it works out as he gets bigger.

Dave

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From: gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie Shackelford)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:22:46 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I got Dixie from the Atlanta Humane Society.  She was $41 (males are
$31).  Kittens and cats cost the same.  They are wormed and given
the first set of vaccinations by the Humane Society when they are
given to the society.  These shots do -not- include rabies and feline
leukemia.  The adoption fee covers spaying/neutering by the AHS vet
or a local participating vet (lots of vets do thi  You also get
a free health exam by them or your vet.  I used this free health 
exam to get Dixie checked, and got her fully vaccinated at the same
time.  The office visit was free (using the health exam certificate).
Her shots andleukemia test (negative!!) were $46.  So she has cost
$87 so far (and my other cat adopted 3 years ago cost about the same).
I think that she's worth it!

-- 
Christie Shackelford
gt1167b@prism.gatech.edu
Meow!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:16:25 GMT

Great list, Marie, but you left out "sitting like a bug".  This is
when they scrunch down, almost in sphinx position, but their front
pays just kind of collapse underneath them.  My mom named that nearly
a million years ago and I still think it's appropriate for that
position.

Judith and Charlie (who rarely sits like a bug) 
       and Sarah (who often sits like a bug)

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Life Spans
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:08:59 GMT


All this talk about how long cats live came to mind when
I saw this chart in Cats Magazine making the ever-popular
feline to human conversions. 

              AGE IN YEARS
Cats     1   2   6  10  14  20   25
Humans  15  25  45  60  72  90  105

Debbie (am I really only 4 in cat years?) Millard
Calli (35), Cissy (30), Timmy (25) [all in human years]
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:25:07 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.pets.cats, tastewar@athena.mit.edu (Tom Stewart) writes:
>Don't have a name for this, but I love it when they lay on their backs
>under our dining room table, and pull themselves along by grabbing the
>chairs.  Anyone have a good name for that?

Muffin does this, she loves to play with the dining room table and chairs.
It's like a big toy to her.  She runs, grabs a table/chair leg beats it
up and then takes off running.  The other 4 don't even give it a second
thought.
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From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Bathing my Siamese
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:44:36 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

I can't think of any occasions where we have actually bathed Roo.
There was one time where she got creosote on her feet, and we
had to wash it off with a damp rag.  Did she growl!!  I've never
heard a cat make such a noise, and as I was holding on to her,
you could feel the growl deep inside her body.  I've looked at her
with more respect since.
  Personally, I think that cats and baths don't mix, unless they are
drinking out of a tap, or standing on the edge looking at you as if
to say "what are you DOING in there?!?!".  It's no wonder they make
such a fuss when people try to bathe them.


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Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:11:16 -0400 
From: "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: How to turn an outdoor kitty to an indoor kitty?

Hello again,

I have a friend who is trying to teach her cat to be an indoor cat. 
Apparently her cat was having problems with neighbors feeding her odd
things that make her get sick.  I also thing she was having a problem
getting hurt (by other cats) all the time.  Anyway,  she has decided
that her cat should be indoors.  What steps should she take and how long
will it take her cat to adjust?  It has already been a month with no
realy success.  I am not sure what "no success" is since she wasn't
realy specific?  Thanks in advance.

Susan, posting for a friend.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How long cats live (was Re: Indoor cat wan
From: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic)
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:49:59 GMT
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona

In article <1992Aug11.184715.12379@iWarp.intel.com>, pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit,,,) writes:
> In article 16722@gtephx.UUCP, machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic) writes:

> 
> >I doubt it. Let's do a survey on the net:
> >
> >
> >I'm betting that the outdoor cats live as long as, if not longer than, the
> >indoor cats.
> 
> The correct questions to ask are, "How old was your indoor cat when it died?  How 
> old was your outdoor cat when it died?"  You can't say how long indoor/outdoor cats 
> live based on living cats.
> 
Sorry, you are right about that. It seems a lot of people have been answering, with
answers running about even (I haven't kept score, really.) However, only one person 
has responded via e-mail so far, and that person's indoor cats lived to be 11 and 
17-1/2. Their other indoor cat is still alive at 11.  Any future answers will have 
to be tallied by someone else, sorry, I'm off the net after Aug. 20.

So if you answer, answer the above questions, not the original questions, catpeople!

-- 
Mindy
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Mindy Machanic  (AG Communication Systems/Quality Engineering, Phoenix, AZ)               
(This space available for interesting messages and the usual disclaimers...)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler)
Subject: Re: How many cats is too many?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:58:39 GMT

feldman@flash.crd.ge.com (Sandra F Feldman) writes:


>As you might remember from my earlier postings, I have 4 cats, 3 male and 1
>female.  My husband has been pestering me to get one more female, so the males
>will have another female to annoy besides Roxy. (yes, she's spayed.  no, they
>don't care.  they still like to chase her.)  They are all strictly indoor cats,
>since we live in the suburbs.  My husband went to the shelter today (don't ask
>me why, he thinks this is entertainment) and saw bunches of cute female cats,
>including a pair of long haired white twin kittens, a grey long haired kitten,
>and an older calico.  Help!  Can I resist?  He's considering getting both
>white kittens.

>Sandy
Some cities have laws limiting the number of cats (and other pets as well.)
I just saw on the news that a lady had over 100 cats in her house.  The
city allowed only 2.  The animal control agency came and took the cats and
euthenized them.  They were not cared for, and many were sick.  Her house
reeked of cat droppings.  Pretty sad if you ask me.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: 6845400@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:08:41 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: myhre@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert Myhre)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:19:22 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


  Hi again.  Another question about those cats that I am contemplating
on getting at the humane society has popped up.  After a reader answered
my last question I went and asked and found that these cats have not
been vaccinated for leukemia.  The price is too high for them to
justify it.

  Now, these cats are $50 each with a refund of $20 each when they are
altered, plus the cost of altering plus all the additional shots that
are needed (they have only had te first set... booster and distemper).
Is this price normal for cats?  I am beginning to think that it would be
cheaper just to get one of those cats that people are giving away for
free instead of dealing with the HS.

Comments?  Thanks

Robert

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sbp@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Sue Price)
Subject: Re: Cataholics
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:39:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.113239.8226@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy) writes:
>And how do they get the hair on the clothes inside the dry cleaners bag?

In that vein:
I just got a postcard from my parents, who are vacationing in Alaska. Here
is an excerpt: "CatWoman [my mom's name for her], some of your fur is
now in Alaska.  How do you manage to get your fur on garments you've never
met?"

It's clearly a cat talent.

-- 

Sue Price
sbp@hound.att.com
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat food, dry
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:10:42 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

bob.hines%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Bob Hines)  writes:
> I'm getting a kitten and want to feed it dry cat food. Is dry food only
> a adequate diet?

Good dry food is *great*.  Go for at least the _good_ grocery store
brands like Purina or Friskies or Alpo.  Much cheaper cat foods don't
seem to be as palatable or as healthy.  If you can afford it, you might
consider going to a "premium" cat food like Iams, Science Diet, or one
of the other high-meat catfoods (read the labels-- the ingredients are
listed in descending order of concentration).  As soon as I was making
above-starvation wages, I switched my crew, and I've been very pleased
with their lovely coats and the much-less-stinky catpan.

Feeding trials to establish nutritional adequacy of catfoods only have
to run for a few months (40 wks? I forget), so I've made it a practice
to switch brands of cat food fairly often, thinking that Brand B might
make up for an accidental lack in Brand A.  It also keeps the cats
from getting picky about the cat food-- what happens if your cat _only_
eats flavor X of brand Y, and they quit making it?

Dry cat food also seems to cut down on a few of the dental problems
later in life, notably tartar on the teeth.

And cats can exist quit happily on dry food for their entire lives.  
A friend's cat refuses anything *but* dry food.  Mine get dry food
almost all the time (though I'll occasionally give them a treat
and put water on it)(well, they think it's a treat), and I *supplement*
with vet-approved goodies like hardboiled eggs and cheese.  But those
are treats.  Of course the cats also supplement it themselves with
raids on spaghetti sauce and homemade bread...

As to the general health of my crew, it's pretty good.  Vets usually
comment on the nice coats and no signs of nutritional problems, so
I'd say dry food is just fine.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pinky@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Burbank)
Subject: Re: I've got a fetcher.
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:11:53 GMT

my maine coon, bill, does this too.  it's a real kick in the butt.
I love it.
From: U53064@uicvm.uic.edu (Shawn E. Durham)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Great toys!!
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:49:30 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago



I'm always looking for innovative toys and can't find them in traditional
pet stores.  I've discovered a mail order firm with terrific toys that
my finicky cats go crazy for and would like to share it with you all.
Let me preface by saying I am not at all affiliated with this company
nor do I receive any financial gain from them.

If you're looking for quality, interesting wands/fishing pole-type
toys, write to:

     Kiddy Kompany
     1528 Dwight Lane
     Modesto, CA  95350

Tucker, Merlin and I received our order last night and had a blast!

Shawn Durham
U of Illinois
Library of the Health Sciences
U53064@UICVM.UIC.EDU
From: sandyb@cbnews.cb.att.com (sandra.e.braun)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Terrified of Ceiling Fan!
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:29:51 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Hi.  I just moved to a house with a ceiling fan.  My cat Coco is absolutely 
terrified of it.  She will run out of the room and hide downstairs under the
ironing board until it's turned off.  Then she sneaks back in the living
room and stares at it for ~1 hour, just to make sure it's not going to turn
on again.

Any ideas?  I've been there two weeks and thought she might just get used to  
it, but no such luck.  I finally resorted to keeping it off, it seems so
terrifying for her.  But, I would like to use it, it really is nice, and my
other cat doesn't mind it a bit.  In fact she likes to lie underneath it
and let the air blow on her.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Sandy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kudra@hubcap.clemson.edu (sallie j kudra)
Subject: Re: Hyperactive cat
Organization: Clemson University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:48:30 GMT


Chris,

What you have is just a normal kitten.  They all tend to be hyperactive at
that age and get into anything and everything.  Oh how I envy you having a
new baby.  Our youngest is going on 4.  She nearly drove us crazy for the 
first six months, but now she is a real love for all that she is my husband's
special baby.  She is a true little lover.  Give it a chance.  They're babies
for such a short time.

Sallie

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 You may be right, I may be crazy                 | Sallie Kudra
 But it just may be a lunatic you're lookin' for  | kudra@hubcap.clemson.edu
                         Billy Joel               | kudra@clemson.clemson.edu
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From: lswan@ucsd.edu (Swan, Lyn)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Chimneys (was Cries...)
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:11:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: card3.ucsd.edu

>I don't own a "chimney sweep," but my cat has been staring at the  
>fireplace lately. She even tried to go in there. It is not even a real  
>fireplace, it is gas. There is nothing in there and it doesn't even have a  
>chimney, so why has Boo gone crazy?

Well, my fireplace(s) are real but I have gas logs in them.  Allie thinks
it's great fun to sleep on the gas logs - or just to pose on them.  This is
a favorite attention getter when I have company.  I've only seen Kate get
in the fireplace once & she also snoozed on the logs.  Looks darned 
uncomfortable to me....but then so do a lot of their poses on places!

Lyn & Kate & Allie
From: ambar@cygnus.com (Jean Marie Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Turkish Angora Question
Date: 22 Aug 92 07:48:33 GMT
Organization: Redheads Anonymous

In article <1992Aug18.222531.20711@gtephx.UUCP> machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic) writes:

   I don't think he's a Turkish Angora. I was under the impression that Turkish
   Angoras are all white, with green eyes, and long long straight, thick hair,
   and a face in-between a squished-in Persian and a pointy Siamese. I was told
   that Honeycat is an Angora, since he looks just like this description, and a
   veterinarian told me that's what he was...I looked him up in a book
   and that's how they described him there, although I think they're
   allowed to be tipped in some colors. I'm not positive, however.

Ah, me.

A Turkish Angora is a cat from, or descended from, Turkey, who has a
pedigree to prove it.  They have certain characteristics: long hair, a
long, slender and graceful body.  They tend to have certain traits: a
lively and playful spirit, a love of water, immense agility and energy.

Turkish Angoras are most commonly seen in white, but any color (except
those unique to the Siamese, Burmese, or Abysinnian breeds) is legal,
since these are street cats who once bred freely.  White is most common
because the Angoras bred in the Turkish Zoo are exclusively white, and
that's where most of the original breeding stock imported from Turkey
came from.  However, white cats 'mask' colors, so the genes of a black
smoke, a blue-cream, or a brown tabby and white may be hiding under that
lovely white coat, and be expressed in the kittens of a white-white
mating.

An aside on white cats: they may have gold eyes, blue eyes, or one of
each (termed odd-eyed).  Gold eyes (termed 'amber' in the Turkish Angora
breed standard) often have green rings, or traces of green, but this is
penalized in the show ring.  Solid-white cats will quite often (but not
always) be deaf.  The incidence of deafness goes up as the number of
blue eyes go up, but some blue-eyed whites can hear, and some gold-eyed
whites are deaf, so it's by no means a predictor.  (My Valentino was
odd-eyed and stone deaf.)

Many people (vets too) will term any long-haired non-Persian cat 'an
Angora'.  Me, I prefer 'domestic longhair' as a more accurate and
equally proud title.

				AMBAR
(Who once owned a beautiful odd-eyed white DLH named Valentino, and has
friends who breed Turkish Angoras.)
From: myhre@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert Myhre)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:19:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19685
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


  Hi again.  Another question about those cats that I am contemplating
on getting at the humane society has popped up.  After a reader answered
my last question I went and asked and found that these cats have not
been vaccinated for leukemia.  The price is too high for them to
justify it.

  Now, these cats are $50 each with a refund of $20 each when they are
altered, plus the cost of altering plus all the additional shots that
are needed (they have only had te first set... booster and distemper).
Is this price normal for cats?  I am beginning to think that it would be
cheaper just to get one of those cats that people are giving away for
free instead of dealing with the HS.

Comments?  Thanks

Robert
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ashelton@encore.com (Amy Roberts Shelton)
Subject: Re: Scratching that litter 'til the cows come home...
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:02:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL

In article <1992Aug19.210331.23731@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>
>Then there was Ghost, the loadest licking cat in the world.  He'd get
>on my bed when I was trying to sleep and start licking himself, and licking
>himself and licking himself -- slurp, scritch, slurp, slirp, scritch, slurp,
>-- sigh...
>
>When I started wearing earplugs it made sleeping MUCH easier!
>
>-Pete Zakel

We have an 18-lb tabby named Billy Bob (usually just called Bob) who
also licks very loud.  He also slurps and snorts as he licks, and he
likes to lick a lot, ESPECIALLY when we are trying to go to sleep.  
He either sleeps on the bed with us or on the dresser which is only a
couple of feet away.  I can usually tune it out as I am very tired by
the time we go to bed, but my husband absolutely cannot stand it!
I don't understand - my husband could sleep through a tornado - I
guess he just can't _go to sleep_ with noises going on! :-)

Amy Shelton
owned by Pinky, Topaz, Shalimar, and Billy Bob

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats