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From: ssammy@cs.strath.ac.uk (Paul Sammy 4th Year iE/CES)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: No Stone Roses in Can?
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:46:57 GMT
	<SSAMMY.93Jan25104222@fleming-03.cs.strath.ac.uk>
	<1993Jan25.141449.3059@dct.ac.uk>
Organization: Information Engineering
In-reply-to: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk's message of 25 Jan 93 14:14:49 GMT

>Regarding Re: No Stone Roses in Can?; mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk adds:

 > In article <SSAMMY.93Jan25104222@fleming-03.cs.strath.ac.uk>, ssammy@cs.strath.ac.uk (Paul Sammy 4th Year iE/CES) writes:
>>>Regarding No Stone Roses in Can?; HCRU@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (HCRU000) adds:

>>  > Can anybody out there in the U.K. tell me why The Stone Roses
>>  > do not want to play in North America? Do they hate Americans?
>>  > Do they have something against Mr.Mulrouney? If they came here
>>  > to Canada or even the States they would make a killing! They are such a
>>  > great band that its a shame that loyal fans like me get hot and
>>  > bothered and just sit around waiting for other people to watch
>>  > their music fade out around here. They play all over the U.K.
>> 
>>    They do?
>>    Not that I've noticed, chum.


 > The Stone Roses haven't played live since 1990.  Are you such a loyal fan that
 > you didn't even know this?

 Please get your citations right.
 I take it that that was for HCRU@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (HCRU000) ?

 Paul
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From: milne@pi7.lbl.gov (Brent Milne)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: POLL RESULTS  (#1)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 00:09:46 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
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                   1992 READER'S POLL RESULTS
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Number of Voters: 126

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This is the first of five posts... Here's a brief summary of
what's in each part:

#1 An Explanation of what all the data in the other parts mean.
#2 The Results for every album receiving two or more votes.
#3 A Slightly less detailed version of the above but which adds
   a list of correlated albums for each entry.
#4 Partial Lists of the albums receiving the most first place
   votes and the highest average rankings.
#5 A Key to the abbreviations used in the reports.

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Part #3 bears some explanation... since there are over 150 albums
in the list, and since many people may use this list to seek out
new music, I have attempted to reveal the correlations among the
various entries. IE. people who liked album A also tended to like
album B.

I computed the correlation of B to A as follows:

One point for every person voting for both A and B.
A second point for every person with A and B in their top 5.
A third point for every person with A and B in their top 3.

I then attempted to factor out the advantage of the albums 
receiving the most votes by dividing by ten plus the number of
votes that B received.  (Thus, the albums receiving the most
votes were 'penalized' by about a factor of four over those
receiving just two votes.)  Pretty arbitrary... but it seems
to work OK.

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Finally, for the dim-witted, here is a explantion of the other
columns in the reports:

NAME: An abreviated version of the album name. (See part #5.)

 PTS: Points were calculated using the standard "10 pts. for
      first, 9 pts. for second, etc."

1-10: Number of First-Tenth place votes.

  TL: The total votes received by the album.

 AVE: The average rank of the album among those who voted for it

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From: berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad)
Subject: Re: techno
Keywords: techno
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:49:07 GMT
Originator: berntr@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


In article <25248@galaxy.ucr.edu>, dshire@mercury.ucr.edu (David Shire) writes:
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> 	Anyone out there interested in techno?
> Would ya be interested in starting a new group? 
> With the little news we get about the new techno
> stuff out here (in the U.S. - at least in Southern
> Calif.) it would be nice to get the lastest and
> greatest warez out there. (Esp. after the death
> of MARS-FM in southern california. R.I.P)
> 
> 	So folks, if you're interested, then
> mail me at sshah@watserv.ucr.edu
> 
> 			-Steve


I find this difficult to achive. 5 years ago maybe, but
not today. Industrial and techno has influenced each other
so much that they're getting hard to separate.
And who can give an absolute definition of techno and 
industrial so that the new group will become purely techno ?

Another aspec:
If you create a techno group you'd probably have to remove
FLA, Insekt and several othere bands from R.M.I.
This would make R.M.I. less interesting for many net-users
and the news-flow would decrease.

I vote NO to a techno newsgroup, 
let's keep R.M.I. alive and varied.


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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Request for tourdate mailing list
From: nihil@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:02:40 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <1993Jan20.174525.5207@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, kardon@rab.enet.dec.com () writes:
> 
> Wouldn't it be great if somebody started a mailing list for bands' touring
> schedules!!
> 
> I know I'd have stuff to contribute.
> 
> -Scott

   i don't think i'd have much to contribute, but i would certainly like to
see one; i get on the net so rarely, i often find out about concerts ex post
facto.

nihil@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: moleface@next04cville.wam.umd.edu (Moleface)
Subject: Re: TEST
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:48:43 GMT

In article <rutter.10@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu>  
rutter@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu (John E. Rutter) writes:
> In article <rutter.8@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu>  
rutter@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu (John E. Rutter) writes:
> 
> >This is a test.
> 
> This is also a test.

This might be a test, but it also might not.  I think it is, but I'm not  
sure, and if it is, I'm not sure what exactly it is that I'm testing for,  
or I guess that should be, "I'm not sure what exactly it is for which I'm  
testing."  If I am testing for something, I will post what it is later, or  
maybe someone could give me a hint so I'll know that much sooner what  
exactly it is for which I'm testing.  

If I'm testing for anything.
From: bungle@cellar.org (GasTruck Guy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: GRAVEROBBERS
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:38:28 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system


    Ever been to DC?   Ever hear of them?

     Check 'em out Feb. 6 at Dylan's Cafe in Georgetown.

     I need to know if anyone has heard these guys.




            *** GasTruck Guy has spoken ***
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jis@panix.com (Linus Van Pelt)
Subject: Re: TORI does Nirvana
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:11:25 GMT

In <1993Jan24.200147.10531@ac.dal.ca> drolrevo@ac.dal.ca writes:

>	My roommate heard on the radio a Tori Amos cover of
>Nirvana's Smells like Teen Spirit. Where can I find this song 
>and on what medium (i.e. single, ep, disc etc.)? 

The import CD for _Winter_

>	And if you've heard it, tell me, does she do the song justi
>ce? 

More like dis-justice.  Just another Kate Bush wanna-be who looks cute.  

--
Linus Van Pelt
"I'm not your sweet baboo...."
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wednesday, 20 Jan 1993 16:35:30 EST
From: OLEH <ACPS6969@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: big black????

Help!!!
Is Big Black the neo-industrial band that has lyrics like:
               THERE'S NOTHIN' MUCH TO DO IN THIS TOWN!
               THERE'S NOTHIN' MUCH TO DO IN THIS TOWN!
               PUT ME ON FIRE!!!!!
                  KEROSENE.
               PUT ME ON FIRE!!!!
                  KEROSENE.
If this is the band I heard a couple years at a party I would love to
pick up their cd.


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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: H5FK000 <H5FK@UNB.CA>
Subject: ramona
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:41:21 GMT

  ramona, you found me here and guided me somewhere else.  you seem
like a neat person and if you have no objections i would like to ask
you to write back and fill me in on yourself.  can't really hurt
much can it?  it's not as if i am related to the mansons or
anything.  write me?  you've caught my curiousity

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cflatter@nrao.edu (Chris Flatters)
Subject: Re: pavement music
Reply-To: cflatter@nrao.edu
Organization: NRAO
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 02:51:28 GMT

In article 3332@ics.uci.edu, bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>   Well, supposedly the band is having difficult times with Gary Young,
>  who as many of you know, was the reason for Pavement doing an
>  improvisatory Peel Sessions not too long ago.  Basically Gary got
>  really blasted at a party the night before (boy, am I shocked. (hint of
>  deep sarcasm)) and was so fucked up, he didn't make it to the BBC1
>  studios. The BBC engineers thought he was a bum when he stumbled in
>  much too late.

Lemme guess which one is Gary Young...

	Chris Flatters
	cflatter@nrao.edu



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From: Jens Alfke <jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com>
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins Box Set
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:08:09 GMT
X-Xxdate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:08:42 GMT
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Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1993Jan26.213846.22995@netcom.com> Paul W. Francisco,
catcher@netcom.com writes:
>I have been toying with the idea of getting the Cocteau Twins 10 CD5
>Box Set, but before I do I would like to get a track listing to know
>whether or not it is worth spending $50-70.

It contains all nine of their singles/EPs:

Lullabies
Peppermint Pig
Sunburst and Snowblind
Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops
Aikea-Guinea
Tiny Dynamine
Echoes In a Shallow Bay
Love's Easy Tears
Iceblink Luck

...plus an extra disc with four miscellaneous tracks (Crushed / Dials /
The High Monkey-Monk / and an instrumental version of some other song
whose name escapes me).

[Sorry, I don't feel like typing all the song names right now. Maybe I'll
post my fairly complete discography here soon.]

If you don't have all nine singles, you need to get the boxed set.
They're all great.

NOTE: The only stuff missing is the Peel Sessions stuff that was tacked
onto the original cassette and CD releases of Garlands. This consists of
four songs, two of them otherwise unreleased, two featuring Gordon Sharp
of Cindytalk on backing vocals. I don't know if these have been released
as a standalone on the Strange Fruit label that's releasing all the other
Peel Sessions?

--Jens Alfke
  Once and future Cocteau Twins fanatic
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hk@caesar.rice.edu (Hyonchol Kahng)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins boxed set
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 04:04:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.214226.11587@cs.com> larry@cs.com (Larry Spence) writes:
>In article <C1K7K4.Box@dcs.ed.ac.uk> axjb@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Anthony Bailey) writes:
>No, "Dials" was on the promo CD for _HoLV_.  I found a used copy, probably
>sold by someone who bought the boxed set.  Supposedly, the individual 
>CDs from the box were to be sold separately after the box sold out -- has
>anyone heard anything more about this?

If I'm not mistaken, the import version of the box set is comprised of those
"slim-line" CD jewel boxes, you know, those annoyingly flimsy cases that
get crushed so easily.  Anyway, the spring after the box set was released, I
started finding various EPs and singles from that box being sold separately.
As far as the domestic "standard" jewel box releases are concerned, I have yet
to see those being sold individually at the local stores.

But then again, that was a while back....

BTW, the "HoLV" promo single was not included in the box set - its contents
are: "Heaven or Las Vegas" "Dials" "Heaven or Las Vegas (Edit)".  For utter
completists and lucky scavengers only.


hk



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From: pmarin@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Paul S Marin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: What's a Kennedy(was: Re: THE PIXIES) (WAS: Re: The Cure)
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:15:36 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan22.164514.2835@hubcap.clemson.edu> snordgr@eng.clemson.edu writes:
>
>> BTW who or what is kennedy ? 
>
>Kennedy is the worst thing on MTV.  She is the reason for hate mail.  She hosts alternative Nation on MTV at midnight.  I would rather see clips from Paula Abdul's latest tour, than Kennedy.  I would rather see Madonna's new movie, than Kennedy.  I would rather have a weeklong Milli Vinilli Marathon, than Kennedy.  You get the point.
>
>This is just an opinion.  It figures she would announce something as dreadful as the pixies break-up.  All the reason to hate her more.  I blame their split on Kennedy,  she's evil.  
>
>I must admit I watch her all the time.  It's fun to yell at the tv.  There's also something thrilling about being face-to-face with your worst enemy.
>
>Does anyone else share my distaste for this vile creature?


she is the most annoying personality i've ever encountered on television. you 
are right though, it is fun to yell at the tv.


paul marin
university of pennsylvania
pmarin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jlitchfi@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: edward ka-spell
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:01:52 GMT

In article <cfLRh_u00iUz07=YxZ@andrew.cmu.edu> Kenny Eng <ke0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>does anyone have info on this guy, or group, or whatever?  i am not even
>sure the name is spelled correctly.
>  the song i heard by this person was kind of shoegaze/dream pop-ish.
> thanks.
>

He's the lead guy (i think) in Legendary Pink Dots. He also has worked with
cevin key and Dwayne of Skinny Puppy under the bandname Tear Garden, as well
as having released some solo stuff. He's Belgian, I believe. That's about the
extent of my limited knowledge of him.
From: young@hpcs4.bear.com (Eric Youngblood)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Wanna Help?
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:40:13 GMT
Organization: wouldn't you like to know...
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

GasTruck Guy (bungle@cellar.org) wrote:
: hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
: 
: > Hello indie rock/pop fans:
: > 
: > I am desperately trying to finish my doctoral dissertation on 
: > indie rock/pop subcultures (its unwieldy title is "Marginal
: > Formations and the Production of Culture:  The Case of College
: > Music."  Ugh.)  I've interviewed plenty of musicians and 
: > 
: > So what I'm wondering is, if I posted a questionnaire, would
: > any of you be interested in taking the time to respond?
: > 
: 
:    GasTruck Guy would be happy to take the time to respond.
: 
:    GasTruck Guy has spoken.
: 
:

Ditto.
 
Eric Youngblood
young@wildcat.bear.com
From: jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com (Jens Alfke)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Dada/Surrealist music [was Death to the Pixies]
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:17:49 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <C18K4E.B4E@ms.uky.edu> Peter N. Hrabak,
pnhrab00@nx16.mik.uky.edu writes:
>Does anyone else share the feeling that the Pixies, now dead, as  
>their catchphrase prophesized, were the last real performers of Dada  
>art?  At least the last ones who were readily accessible?

I'd say the Pixies were more Surrealist than Dada. Certainly their
wonderful Simon Labalastiere(?) cover photographs are. Dada has more
random violence in it.

One could also make a case for They Might Be Giants (esp. their last two
albums) as Surrealist. They use an awful lot of jarring juxtapositions
and strange imagery ... like Surrealist poets writing '50s sitcom theme
songs.

And of course the Fututists would've sold their souls, would even have
eaten pasta, to get their hands on samplers or multitrack recorders. They
are after all the folks who came up with the phrase "Art of Noise".

True Dada music? Maybe some of the industrial* noise they go wild for
over on nm-list.

--Jens Alfke
  "Everybody wants a big prosthetic forehead on their head"

*No, not Ministry or Puppy or NIN. I said _industrial_.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: nejedly@athena.cs.uga.edu (Brian Nejedly)
Subject: Re: Minor Threat
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:29:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.205349.27427@wam.umd.edu> mag@wam.umd.edu (Michael) writes:
>In article <93026.142040JDB129@psuvm.psu.edu> <JDB129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>I noticed alot of posting about "straight edge" and Minor threat and was wonder
>>ing what ever happened to Minor Threat.  I have their complete discography whic
>>h is excellent, did they release anything else after that?
>
>
>    well, Ian went on to Fugazi, of course, and Jeff went to a bunch of
>bands including the Highback Chairs...I think he co-owns Dischord with
>Ian...don't know what happened to the others...
>
>Mike
>mag@wam.umd.edu
>
 i don't know what happened to Lyle Preslar, but Brian Baker of course went
 on to Dag Nasty and "Can I Say" is one of the best hardcore albums ever, he
 then went on to the unbelieveably bad Junkyard in L.A.  Oh well, good to 
 know that Ian and Jeff are still doing good stuff, and Fugazi is currently
 recording for their next release, let's hope it's better than "steady diet . ."That album just wasn't up to par with their older stuff(in my opinion)


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From: orpheus@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Grant Jeffrey Barrus)
Subject: re: Straight Edge
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:44:35 GMT

Listen, I think people forget that there are many types of people and many  
types of straight edgers
	1)ones who are "straight edge" and aren't hostile about it
	2)ones who beat people up for disagreeing with them--these
	   just use being straight edge as an excuse to be violent
	    and hurt people, something the straight edge "movement"
	     is adamantly against.
	 3) those who misinterpret it and don't have sex.

	-Grant Jeffrey Barrus
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: acskjc@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: Question about Tribe
Reply-To: acskjc@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:31:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.225723.29712@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, rfh2y@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Russell Haddleton) writes:
>Some time ago there were some posting about Tribe (a band from Boston,
>not to be confused with Tribe of Lemmings, or The William and Mary
>Tribe), and I was wondering if anyone had any news of their current
>activities. 
>   Thanks
>        
They were supposed to play here (UMass Dartmouth) in Dec., but cancelled. I
heard that it was b/c they were recording a new album, so that's probably
their current activity.

Kieran
acskjc@umassd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jlitchfi@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: TEST
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:19:50 GMT

In article <rutter.10@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu> rutter@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu (John E. Rutter) writes:
>In article <rutter.8@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu> rutter@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu (John E. Rutter) writes:
>
>>This is a test.
>
>This is also a test.
Please use one of the test newsgroups for this, alt.test or something like that.
From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: big black????
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:02:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

ACPS6969@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca (OLEH) writes:

>Is Big Black the neo-industrial band that has lyrics like:
>               THERE'S NOTHIN' MUCH TO DO IN THIS TOWN!
>               PUT ME ON FIRE!!!!!
>                  KEROSENE.

Yeah, this song is on the LP "Atomizer" and whatever reissue it is
that includes that album.  Their big hit, more or less.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mhaitkin@scott.skidmore.edu (meredith haitkin)
Subject: Re: Long live KENNEDY
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:45:52 GMT



What sort of drug are you on that creates that vivid a halucination
for you?
				Love, Meri
From: bg@stein.u.washington.edu (Bill Whitson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: FleshPot, Sea of Black, Gruntruck
Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:08:05 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

Yes!  It's another of bill's show reviews.  Don't you feel lucky?

This show happened last week up here in Seattle at a new all-ages place called the Temple.

FleshPot opened the show.  I can't tell you much about them because I was too
busy trying not to laugh in their faces.  These guys really had no business
playing a show at all.  The drummer was so bad he couldn't even keep time.

Next was Sea of Black.  Total cheeze-metal.

Gruntruck finally came out and were great.  They looked kinda' tired, but I
suppose that's to be expected after touring with AiC.  They played evenly from
both albums, hitting all the best songs.  Unfortunately, of the 7 times I've
seen Gruntruck, this was probably the least exciting.  The crowd was lame, the
mics kept cutting out, the opening bands sucked, and they didn't play any new
material.  Oh well, at least I got a new shirt.

I did get a chance to talk to them for a few minutes.  They're going on tour
with Pantera for about six weeks before they return to the states.  If you
get a chance to see these guys while their still moderately small, do it.
Chances are they'll have outgrown the club scene before mid-93.

Bill Whitson
bill@booster.u.washington.edu
bill@carson.u.washington.edu