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From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: Advice to Lonely heart, Peter
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:42:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.014333.29545@cc.uow.edu.au> tcheung@cc.uow.edu.au (teresa cheung) writes:
>
>Of course, don't act foolishly.  Read her personality and decide
>whether you can deal with her character.   Learn to read her
>reactions.  And show her your sense of humor.  Yes, money and car and
		 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	** Although definitely important, but never overdo it.

>goodlooks help -- but they are only an attraction, just as a pretty girl
		                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	** If all girls would be like you...

>is attractive to guys.  If she is mature, she will look past those
				
	** If and *only if*... Unforturnately!

>things and see your personality.  And if she likes your personality, 
>she may give you a chance.  She can also say "no" if it is not the 
>right time.  And that is also part of love and relationships:  fate, luck
>and good timing.  

	** And your effort above all.
>
>So, I wish you luck, Teresa

	I still think we guys should try to be a little bit pushy. I've   
been seeing guys(and men, hee!) who act just so stupid and sort of float
around all day. I mean, you can't just keep floating around and wait and    
wait and wait for nothing but something to happen, can you? To open a door
you have to push it, right? Automatic doors aren't that many.  
 
	And girls, please don't be so KOOL to guys, IMNSHO!! 

---Good luck to everyone,
	Bill
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ystan@fawlty10.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr YS Tan)
Subject: Re: * * M U S I C * *
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:57:56 GMT

wing@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Mr. Raymond Chan) writes:
... deleted ...

>	Would anybody give me some advice on how to start and
>determine which jazz performer is good or which piece is good?

	So long as you like him/her, he/she is good. Just to name some of
my favourites:

1.Dave Grusin
2.Lee Ritenour
3.Larry Carlton
4.Tuck Andress
5.The Rippingtons
6.Sadao Watanabe

.... and the list goes on ....
>So long, farewell......

>Raymond
>9-10-92.

>-- 
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Mr. Raymond Chan, Dept. Computer Science, University of Warwick, Coventry, CV4 7AL.
>wing@dcs.warwick.ac.uk   csuau@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Cheers,
YS

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From: s907459@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Ka Wo Anthony Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Software Piracy in HK
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:08:53 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

ngs@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (Sun-Yui Ng) writes:

>I've something to say about this subject.

>There is no right answer to say which one is wrong? 

 In the case of morality, it is wrong.
 However, the side effect to HK people is positive. Consider this,
 price of software is very high, everybody only buy legitimate software,
 many of us buy them. People who can't afford it can not have access to them,
 less people willing to start using it.  The progress of office automation
 would be slowed down.  The cost of new system that use computer equipments
 can not outweight the benefits of using it.  
 Who will benefit? The foreign software company. 
 Consequence: heaps of cash flowing out of HK.


>1.  The company must increase the price to cover
>    the lost for those pirated copy.

They did.  They always try to do it. Actually, what they have lost is the
cash of the potential customers. In other words, they earn less no matter 
they expected or not.

>2.  Users must copy software because they can't afford it.
Please don't forget the add-on cost introduced by the software dealer.
Imported software also bears stamp duty.
Many people copy it because they reckon they may need them one day.


>And there will be no stopping unless both side work together.
>First, the software must lower the price of software so 
>that normal people can afford it.  Second, the users must 
>stop copying pirated software. 

May be they should give special discount to students, teachers, lecturers.

Is the HK consumer concil watching the price of software recently?
You guys should urge them to investigate on this matter.

Have a nice day,
Anthony.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Tik Yuen Chan)
Subject: Re: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:24:28 GMT

In article <1ba9uhINNpkn@agate.berkeley.edu> bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan) writes:
>I disagree, and here's how it goes:
>	God IS all-powerful
>	1) God creates the unmovable object.
>	2) God can't lift it up, but...
>	3) God creates the irresistable force.
>	4) Object thus enter an nth dimensional paradox and
>		disappears.
>	5) No one can see into an nth-dimensional paradox...
>	6) What you can't see can't hurt you, and what God
>		doesn't see, doesn't exist.
>	7) Object is gone, thus God IS all-powerful.
>
>Now, pray tell, what this have to do with SCHK?
>	
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Billy H. Chan 	<bhchan@ocf.berkeley.edu>   "Life: a strange new
>Just Babbling   <bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu>   state of confusion"
>Disclaimer 1:   I'm actually a really nice person. (sorta) :) ;)

This kind of religious stuffs were already discussed some time earlier this
year. Here is soc.culture.hongkong please find a proper newsgroup to post it.
Again, can either of you prove that `GOD' really create these things? Or, Can
either of you prove that GOD did not create these things? Probably Nobody here
can. So, just do me a favor, stop this here. I use `k' too many time that the
key `k' on my keyboard was sick.
Cure it before it spreads, that is what I am doing.

sincerely,
Chan.

P.S. No nice person say they are nice.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Tik Yuen Chan)
Subject: QES e-mail list
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:44:51 GMT

I am working on a e-mail list of Q.E.S. old boys and old girls.
I sincerely ask helps from everyone of you who support this project.
I need to get as many e-mail addresses as possible. I will post the
list to the soc.culture.hongkong news group at least once a month.
Also, I will send the compiled list to every participated old boy/girl
of our school. Please help to speed up the process. Again, I will need
everyone of you help and please send addresses of every Alumni you know,
and F.A. are need. The list will group into different F.A. years.

Every thanks to you.

yours sincerely,
Chan Tik Yuen 90FA

e-mail: tychan@mosaic.uncc.edu
        tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael C. KWAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: What should I do???
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:02:57 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston


    *   *                                                        *   *
   * *.* *                                                      * *.* *
   *     *            International Lonely Hearts Club          *     *
    *   *             ================================           *   *
     ***                                                          ***

>Hi netters:
> 
>How do you know that you really love a girl or you just want to find a companion?
>I have big trouble in analyzing my psychological intention when I feel like a girl.  What can I do???
>
>Thanks in advance.
    *   *                                                        *   *
   * *.* *                                                      * *.* *

	From Dr. Lemon to "CONFUSED"

	Don't try to analyze the situation from a girl's point of view. 
You are not a girl, you are a guy!!!  The more you do it the more confused
you'll become.  As the old saying goes:  "What's inside a girl's heart is
like a needle at the bottom of the sea".  Male and females are just
different;  accept it.

	Now, how do you know?  What do you mean by "know"?  The bottom
line is you have to ask yourself what you want.  If you want
companionship, and who doesn't need it, that's not a bad idea in itself. 
And if there are certain aspects about her that you like, then that's fine
too.  But the real problem is, if in the near future, you see someone else
and decides that you like her too, it means you have to really focus on
you feelings.  But mind you, you are still young( well, you are not over
the hill like me, right?), and even if you are not yet focussed, I think
it's still okay.

	Don't try to be a girl, you are not!  Be a man and proud of it!

				Dr. Lemon

_____________________________________________________________________________
Dr. Mike                                    Dr. Feelgood
mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au              stu_wclau@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
Dr. Sleeping Beauty                         Dr. Chilly-B
shsieh@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au             bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu
Dr. Chibi                                   Dr. Dog 
u1040448@arch.unsw.edu.au                   bi_kin@stu.ust.hk
Dr. Lemon
scheng@unixg.ubc.ca
                                         
   Dr.       Dr.       Dr.       Dr.       Dr.       Dr.      Dr.
Chilly-B     Dog    Feelgood    Chibi     Mike      Lemon Sleeping Beauty
  *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *
 * *.* *   * *.* *   * *.* *   * *.* *   * *.* *   * *.* *   * *.* *
 *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *      
  *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *     *   *   
   ***       ***       ***       ***       ***       ***       ***
               
                   International Lonely Hearts Club 

                  "Love is easy when you join ILHC"  !
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: lai@seas.gwu.edu (William Y. Lai)
Subject: Re: Who's going to Hong Kong in December?
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:31:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.021548.1561@openage.openage.com> ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host) writes:
>
>I talked to several people about meeting them in Hong Kong
>in December.  Unfortunately I switched jobs and lost my old
>mail file.  Who is going to Hong Kong in December?
>My wife and I are going from Dec 9 - Jan 1.
>
>P.S. My travel agent told me that so many people I recommended
>called her about consolodator tickets to Hong Kong when I went
>to firm up the date they were sold out!  I had to take
>China Air rather than Korea Air to find tickets.
>Next time I recommend a travel agent on soc.culture.hongkong
>I had better make sure that I have my ticket already booked!

I'm game if there is enough interest.  BTW, can you give me the name of your
travel agent?  I'm looking for tickets right now, and won't mind trying 
another one for price.


William Lai


-- 
email: lai@seas.gwu.edu | "I want to do everything.  I want to have everything.
Dept. of Electrical Eng.|  I have a wonderful, wonderful life.  But there's so
George Washington Univ. |  much more out there.  Do I have it all?  Yes.  Do I
Washington, D.C.        |  want more?  Yeah, sure."     -Demi Moore        
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From:   (L. John Liang)
Subject: Automation Engineer Job Opening
Organization: Motorola Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:40:43 GMT

Motorola Job Openings

Motorola is forming an entrepreneurial automation center in Singapore.   Beginning in 
January 1993, it will serve Motorola factories in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan, 
Malaysia, Manila, and Singapore.  This Center will design and build robotic workstations
 with vision; implement CIM (Computer Integrated Manufacturing) software; and do 
factory simulation and modeling.  Similar centers are already operational in the U.S.
 and Scotland.

Candidates for these permanent positions in Singapore should have a masters degree 
in mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, computer science, or operations 
research/industrial engineering, with in-depth training in robotics, CIM, or simulation.   
Industrial experience is a plus.  Very competitive salary and benefits.

Send resumes by mail to:

Peggy Eastwood
Motorola Inc.
IL01, Fourth Floor
1303 E. Algonquin Rd.
Schaumburg, Illinois 60196

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui)
Subject: How to translate "bone air" into English?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:47:22 GMT

Hello,
I adopted the literal translation from Cheng Dan Shiu some year ago.

Anyway, I wonder if such concept exists in English. Here is some
suggestions.
1. dignity (not exact)
2. spineless (read from a local paper, with inverted comma)

Can anyone tell me how to translate this concept into English?

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------
Humphrey Hui                      :  Have you taken a risk lately?
HHUI@basil.eng.monash.edu.au      :  Life is boring without risk!
From: stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Too bad...
Date: 16 Oct 1992 18:34:33 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.unl.edu

cc015@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vito T. Kwan) writes:


>The people working in the Education Department in HK should be ashamed of
>themselves of still using BASIC as a language in computer science class.
>Who need BASIC while Pascal and C is available. BASIC looks like a kid right
>in front of these two giants.
>For me, I didn't learn Pascal, I started C right away, ad I found that:

>C is cool, C is awsome, C is good, C is fun, C is everything.

>Hope the people in ED of HK some how get this message and get rid of the stupid
>BASIC that designed for elementary school kids.
>-- 
>Vito Kwan                 

  Yeah. Not only C should be taught, also, Power C, C*, C++ should be
taught. And, Solving NP-completeness, Automatic Protocol verification,
Massive Parallelism, Solving descrete-log and Proving the Projective
plan ordered N exist if and only if N is a power of prime are also
should be included in syllabus. :)

  Just kidding.

  steve
--
stevew@helios.unl.edu  |=| \ Fender / |=| ... smoke on the water, fire in
                       |=|   \    /   |=| the sky...   Smoke on the water.
stevew@hoss.unl.edu    |=|     \/     |=|     (36 bars guitar solo)
		      Deep purple, the best
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Tik Yuen Chan)
Subject: Please continue to support the QES e-mail list
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:07:58 GMT

I am working on a e-mail list of Q.E.S. old boys and old girls.
I sincerely ask helps from everyone of you who support this project.
I need to get as many e-mail addresses as possible. I will post the
list to the soc.culture.hongkong news group at least once a month.
Also, I will send the compiled list to every participated old boy/girl
of our school. Please help to speed up the process. Again, I will need
everyone of you help and please send addresses of every Alumni you know,
and F.A. are need. The list will group into different F.A. years.

Every thanks to you.

yours sincerely,
Chan Tik Yuen 90FA

e-mail: tychan@mosaic.uncc.edu
        tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu
From: scheng@unixg.ubc.ca (Stephen Cheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: LONELY HEART CLUB:  3RD DR. NEEDED:  REPLY
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:44:09 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Summary: REPLY TO POSTING IN SEARCH OF 3RD DR.
Keywords: 3RD DR. FOR LONELY HEART CLUB

I actually posted something but the format was not too pleasing
so I'll just rewrite this note.

Name:     Stephen Cheng
Occp:     Graduate Student, Chem UBC, Van, Canada
E-mail:   scheng@unixg.ucs.ca
Exp.:     Tasted the good things in relationships, and have 
	also eaten enough LEMONS to be the king of lemon
Misc:     Like to write, talk, etc.--perfect for this work.

Hobbies:  Normal stuff...

	Well, I'll just conclude with this today.  If anything is 
required, feel free to buzz be at my e-mail address or post something 
up.

		Talk to you later
				Stephen

P.S.  It seems that you know everything about me and I know nothing about 
	you, so why not brief me on some info of the people involved
	in this undertaking?
 
P.S.II  If you guys can't read this properly, it is not my fault.  The    
	editor seems to be acting up.  So buzz be if this is the case...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ctyau@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk (Yau Chor Tung)
Subject: Re: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:27:41 GMT

ecuzq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr B H Y Tseng) writes:

[somthing deleted]

>The other way to answer is to say that God does HAVE THE POWER to create
>such a stone. At time t, God's having the power to create such a stone
>won't affect his omipotence. As long as he doesn't create it, he is
>still omnipotent. So when you ask does God have the power to create
>such a stone, the answer is, Yes, He does. God only becomes not omnipotent
>when He does create such a stone. But he has no reason of making himself
>not omnipotent.

[something deleted]

>------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bruce Tseng: ecuzq@csv.warwick.ac.uk   |   " What is beautiful
> Department of Economics,               |     is good, but what
> University of Warwick,                 |     is good will soon
> Coventry CV4 7AL, UK                   |     become beautiful. "
>------------------------------------------------------------------

Then I would like to ask : Can God create such a stone while not making
himself not omnipotent?  Your answer in fact cannot show that God is
all-powerful.

Moreover, I have a question in mind since I was a child but I never
searched for any answer in books for I am too lazy.  Anybody can give me
some idea :

Can God draw a 2-D circle such that pi is not equal to 3.14159....,  maybe
equal to 3? that is more convenient if we can use integer.

Ah Tung
Department of Computer Science,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip)
Subject: Re: The fifth tin wong
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:01:37 GMT

In article <10OCT199214234939@rosie.uh.edu> cosc180f@rosie.uh.edu (92F06810) wri
tes:
>In article <1992Oct9.083535.7743@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, u1040448@keystone.arch.
unsw.edu.au (C Ma) writes...
>>I think Jimmy (Lam Chi Wing) can sing better than Aaron Kwok.
>>
>>Chibi
>
> Biased?  If not, prove it!
>
> Tony Chan cosc180f@jetson.uh.edu

At least I am quite sure Aaron sounds better in Mandarin than Cantonese.
:-) :-)

And judging from the clearness and sharpness of the Mandarin vocalisation,
I think Jimmy is better than Aaron. Well, Jimmy spent 17+ years in Taiwan
speaking Mandarin all the time, no wonder.....

Patrick
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HKPA.POPSTARS - New picture postings - vchow##.gif
Date: 17 Oct 1992 02:00:54 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca


HONG KONG PICTURES ARCHIVE - POPSTAR COLLECTION (HKPA.POPSTARS)
===============================================================
NEW PICTURE POSTINGS
====================

Hello everyone. I just posted 2 pictures of Vivian Chow to newsgroups
alt.binaries.pictures and at.binaries.pictures.misc as follows:

File:        vchow08.gif
Description: Vivian Chow
Resolution:  640 x 480 x 256 colors
Contributor: <tseung@ecf.toronto.edu>

File:        vchow09.gif
Description: Vivian Chow
Resolution:  640 x 480 x 256 colors
Contributor: <tseung@ecf.toronto.edu>

Alan will upload them to the ftp sites soon.

Special thanks to Tseng for the contributions.
More Vivian pictures from Tseng to all you Vivian fans to come! :)

Enjoy!

Thomas.
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: WEIRD SCIENCE:Re: Acts of love was Re: MADLY IN LOVE WIT
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:48:52 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.

>soc.culture.hongkong / tcheung@cc.uow.edu.au (teresa cheung) /  2:22 am  Oct 13, 1992 /

>This sounds like waiting in line in a department store
>to buy some goods for sale.  Have you guys never experience
>a relationship where there is mutual attraction, mutual love
>and mutual friendship.  When you have found it, trust me, there
>is NO STRUGGLE to win that girl or guy.  Because, that LOVE
>is natural for both of you!

I bet, 9 out of 10 relationship have no mutual attraction. And many poeple
thinking of marriage when they reached certain age and that is the right
time to marry. Then they go out to find their idea partner. Specially Chinese
girls in their late 20s, nearly everybody ask them when they would married.

In many case, there are one-way attraction only. You have to work hard to
make her to accept you. Or in case of girl, give every hints, chances to
him. But mind you, she or he might just want to have a stable relationship or
it is the right time to get in love. If both of them think the same, the 
relationship will be more stable than mutual attraction. Because if one is
not in deep love, one will find out every bit, good and bad, of the other.
In case of instant attraction, all one can see is the best bit. When the
love fire died down, the bad bit will kill.

My commant.

Yuk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy)
Subject: Re: One Joke A Day, No More Girls Say No Way
Keywords: Love. Love? It should be L_ve.
Organization: Clarify, San Jose
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:48:48 GMT

In article <7132@transfer.stratus.com> cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com writes:
>
>  3. Before you find your handsome prince, you've got to kiss a lot 
>     of frogs.

HaHaHaHaHA ......  Sooooo TRUE ... or you won't appreciate his handsomeness.

>
>  5. A woman never forgets the men she could have had; a man, the 
>     women he couldn't.

Yeah .... Isn't it the by-product of imagination?


-Raymond Choy-

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong