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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Jumpin Dude)
Subject: Re: Tattoos.....Questions/Help?
Keywords: n
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 04:31:38 GMT

In article <1i2ji5INNdl6@nic.umass.edu> quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi) writes:
>In article <1993Jan1.212302.22294@julian.uwo.ca> lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) writes:
>>> I've wanted to get a tattoo or two for quite a long time.  You've all
>>> probably heard this story before, but please bear with me.  I'm nervous
>>> about the pain factor.  Does anyone have any words of encouragement?  Can
>>> anyone even explain the process in-depth for me?  I'm sure there are others
>>> lurking in the wings, waiting to hear the answers to these questions.
>>
>>pain has to be the number one question. right before "why?"
>>someone sat and stuck me with needles for many hours.  OF COURSE IT HURT!
>
>I'll second this.

My memory isn't much good, but it seems to me people ask 'why that'
much more than 'did it hurt'. BUt I'll offer some words of encouragement:
Fuck the Pain Factor. It's temporary, and you might like it.

>You can't expect a tatt NOT TO hurt.  But like the
>previous poster said, it doesn't hurt *that* much, nor for *that*
>long.

My first and only (so far) felt alternately like a soldering iron,
an icicle, and/or an exacto blade tracing my skin. There was a 
tremendous variation in sensation, even in the small area inked. 
When the needle(s) were over my shin, the vibration up my leg
was terrific. IF I watched the gun, it hurt much less. I rather 
enjoyed it, though I walked funny for a few hours, and was in a really 
crappy mood once the (natural opiate-whatever) rush wore off.

>But whatever your
>feelings about it afterwards, you're going to more-or-less forget the
>moderate pain involved in getting it after a few days. 

Probably not even that long.

Tim
don't worry, you'll be stoked.


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From: acsrdl@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: A Healing Nipple Pierce
Reply-To: acsrdl@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:07:03 GMT

Howdy, all.

I've got a question to just sort of throw out: I got my left nipple pirced
this summer (August 8th) and although it seems to have healed just fine the
ring keeps on getting stuck.  A couple of times, I tore the new membrane
inside the pierce: when I turned the ring a thin white "skin" came sliding
out along with the metal, and then it was back to sleeping on my side etc.
for a couple of days....  I've been leaving it strictly alone and greasing
it with neosporin after showers, but I'm wondering how long this phase of
things will last.

Do piercings usually do this?  Should I be moving the ring around more?  Is
it too soon to hope for things to be "normal" and all healed?  I'd appreciate
any info or horror stories you-all could give me.  Thanks!

Dave Toal          ____
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From: 2038am@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (That Guy)
Subject: Re: nipple piercings/large breasts
Keywords: see title
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:15:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.172040.9673@newstand.syr.edu> sldesroc@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Shannon L. Desroches) writes:
>What are some of the experiences of women with large breasts who've had their 
>nipples pierced?  Does there seem to be an  (Oops--sorry) extra-long 
>healing perioed in comparison to friends of less voluptitude who have undergone
>the same process?  Does one have to go braless for a while? I am seriously
>considering having both nipples pierced, but absolutely cannot go without a bra,
>lest they start swinging around my knees.
>


What with my not being a woman, you can take or leave this advice, but
you could consider getting a nursing bra and wearing it with the flaps 
down.  also, i've seen stuff in a Frederick's of Hollywood catalog that
were only half-cup bras that were designed to leave the nipples exposed.
either of them would seem to give you the support you'd need while not
pressing on the newly pierced skin.  as a last result you could buy
an inexpensive store brand bra and do a little creative cutting and 
sewing to make you're own peekaboo holes.

hope that helps.

-Andy

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From: bob@noc.drexel.edu (Bob Westall)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Happy Holidays
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:22:31 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

In article <1992Dec22.203728.5876@adobe.com>
    A Usenet Pal, asente@adobe.com writes:

>As we go through the holiday season and are being driven crazy by the
>hectic pace, keep one thing in mind:
>
>   *We* have more places to hang ornaments than *they* do.

How true...as I learned at a party this past weekend. Even with *one* ring,
you can hold a heck of a lot of ornaments :) The holidays will never be
the same again *grin*

Cheers, Bob

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From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: Piercing being "trendy"...
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:05:57 GMT

christ@cie.uoregon.edu (Christian G. Smith) writes:
>They (the media) make it out to be something shallow, when (as anyone
>who's had a piercing can attest) a bodypiercing/tattoo can be a 
>really memorable experience with lots of emotion and feeling wrapped up
>in it.

Both of my piercings were done as sort of a bonding ritual with
very close friends.  I got my right nipple pierced in October
with my best friend.  He also had his right nipple pierced at
the same time.  The memory of us sharing such a profound moment
is a continuing tribute to our friendship.

It makes me uncomfortable to the see the media trivialize our
bonding by describing it like a superficial act of
beautification.

>So, if there are any lurking in this group who think that people who have
>tats/rings are just willing dupes in some fashion-fad, think again.

Amen.

>  That probably didn't make any sense, but I had to get it out of my
>mind....It was really bugging me.

It made perfect sense to me.

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From: lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: Tattoos.....Questions/Help?
Organization: Robarts Research Institute, London Canada.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:23:02 GMT
Keywords: n

> I've wanted to get a tattoo or two for quite a long time.  You've all
> probably heard this story before, but please bear with me.  I'm nervous
> about the pain factor.  Does anyone have any words of encouragement?  Can
> anyone even explain the process in-depth for me?  I'm sure there are others
> lurking in the wings, waiting to hear the answers to these questions.

pain has to be the number one question. right before "why?"

someone sat and stuck me with needles for many hours.  OF COURSE IT HURT!

but not that much.  really.  i think you'll find most people describe it as
a mild stinging sensation, and that it diminishes after a few minutes.
after a couple of hours it starts to come back.  i once had two hours of
single needle work and at the end it was getting unbearable again.  your
first tattoo is also prone to more pain, most likely since you do not have a
good idea for what is about to happen.

needles come in different arrangements.  a "single needle" as referred to
above, is a single needle, and is most used for the initial outline or
detail work.  groupings are either circular (3, 5, 7 &c.)  or a straight
line.  some claim that the larger groupings hurt less.

i find that most of the pain depends on you and the part being tattooed.
some people just hurt more.  sigh.  also places like ribs apparently hurt
more, whilst fleshy bits don't experience that much pain.  my calf muscle
did not feel a thing when being done.  however, my shin bone, surprisingly
felt nothing either.  (and anyone who owns a coffee table knows that the
shin is a loverly place to hit :)  :)

the single most painful place for me?  achilles tendon.

what was it Lawrence of Arabia said?  "of course it hurts, -- the trick is
not minding..."
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: extremist piercing image
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:14:57 GMT


There's a rather extreme image of fresh labia piercings in
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica under the name are00001.gif.
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From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: And i thought i new what pain was...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:53:12 GMT

>So, was it an ampallang, or an apadravya?
>
>I think I'll stick with my PA.
>

oh yeah it was an ampallang
and really now that its been almost a week and it doesnt 
hurt so much i really enjoy it

funny thing is the more i look back on the piercing the more
i enjoy the pain i went through during the pierc

i had forgotten how much my tongue had hurt to clean up
and this kinda reminded me so im sure i wont remember this
part after awhile

the wierd thing i noticed is that right now i need to
kinda screw the barbell to get it through the pierc
and it follows the right hand rule 
just kinda bizarre that my penis is right threaded

also had some great lines said about me at a party
when an ex-s/o of mine wanted to see it 
an her current s/o was kinda jealous so she said
"he was just showing me his penis wwe didnt do anything"

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From: swanv@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Victor Swan)
Subject: A VERY Happy Holidays, INDEED!
Reply-To: swanv@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Victor Swan)
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Washington State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 18:44:29 GMT


I received a gift certificate in the mail today from my tattoo artist
good for $20 on my next tattoo as a holiday gift and for my support
of his artistry.

Geeeezzz! NEVER in this world did I think I would get a GIFT CERTIFICATE
from my TATTOOIST ... will wonders never cease? I certainly have never
heard of anything like this before ... anyone else?

Just thought you would like to know ... :-))

Have a GOOD one!

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From: M..Stirner@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (M. Stirner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Tattoos.....Questions/Help?
Date: 2 Jan 93 02:20:01 GMT


 -=> Quoting John F. Talarico to All <=-

 JFT> I've wanted to get a tattoo or two for quite a long time.  You've all
 JFT> probably heard this story before, but please bear with me.  I'm
 JFT> nervous about the pain factor.  Does anyone have any words of
 JFT> encouragement?

Not really.  There's a wide variation in the perceived pain among those
tattooed, depending on any number of factors, almost all of which are
out of your control.  Some people are simply more sensitive to pain than
others, as you probably have observed.  Also, the condition & number of
needles employed, the antiseptics used & the adjusted depth of
penetration (the dread "bonegrinder" tattooist) will make a difference
in your comfort level.
.   My main advice to you is _wait_ until you know a little more about
tattoos.  My guess is that when you do, you'll decide not to get one.

 JFT> Can anyone even explain the process in-depth for me?

Yes, but I'd rather wait & see if my messages gate OK before writing a
book that vanishes in the net. 8-)
.   If you do get this, please respond.  The Gateway is kludgey &
Internet has a fantod if you have an initial, it seems.  My messages
never seemed to get through to Internet in the past, but I'm using a
different BBS this time.
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From: quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Tattoos.....Questions/Help?
Keywords: n
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:19:33 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucc.umass.edu

In article <1993Jan1.212302.22294@julian.uwo.ca> lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) writes:
>> I've wanted to get a tattoo or two for quite a long time.  You've all
>> probably heard this story before, but please bear with me.  I'm nervous
>> about the pain factor.  Does anyone have any words of encouragement?  Can
>> anyone even explain the process in-depth for me?  I'm sure there are others
>> lurking in the wings, waiting to hear the answers to these questions.
>
>pain has to be the number one question. right before "why?"
>someone sat and stuck me with needles for many hours.  OF COURSE IT HURT!

I'll second this.  You can't expect a tatt NOT TO hurt.  But like the
previous poster said, it doesn't hurt *that* much, nor for *that*
long.  I just got my second tatt on xmas eve, and most people's
reactions have seemed to be "did it hurt?"  I really don't understand
this reaction though.  Some folks I know really get into the sensation
of the tattoo (a slight masochism, or whatever); I don't.  But either
way, the question seems to miss the point.  I really wouldn't
recommend anyone get a tattoo *because* they like the sensation, nor
would I think anyone should decide NOT to get one *just because* of
the pain.  If you get one, you'll have it for the rest of your life;
and you'll either really enjoy showing it to people for the rest of
your life, and really love looking at yourself with it, or perhaps
feel silly for getting it, or both, or neither.  But whatever your
feelings about it afterwards, you're going to more-or-less forget the
moderate pain involved in getting it after a few days.  What you
either want or don't want is the image that results from it.  In terms
of the actual process of getting a tatt, I think of it more-or-less
the same way as going to the dentist -- it's something you'd probably
not be doing, but you do it for a reason, and it's over pretty
quickly.  If it were solely a question of which unpleasant thing I
were to go through (subtracting the reasons for doing either), I would
prefer to put up with a tattoo-gun than a dentist's drill -- but your
results may differ.

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From: asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal)
Subject: Happy Holidays
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:37:28 GMT

As we go through the holiday season and are being driven crazy by the
hectic pace, keep one thing in mind:

   *We* have more places to hang ornaments than *they* do.

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From: quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi)
Subject: Re: Where can I find Modern Primitives?
Keywords: modern primitives
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 06:46:53 GMT

In article <Bzn1rG.1rz@umassd.edu> lambda@cis.umassd.edu (David G. Beals) writes:
>I'm looking to buy a copy of _Modern Primitives_, but I've been unable to 
>locate it at any of the bookstores I've gone to (Laurenti, Waldenbooks, and
>GLAAD Day in Boston). Does anyone know where I might find a copy?

Personally, I never expect to find ANY books I want actually STOCKED
at bookstores, so just assume I have to special order.  Anyway, if you
want to special order, the book is ISBN 0-940642-14-X, Bookstore
distribution: Subco, POBox 10233, Eugene OR 97440, (503)343-6324.  You
may also send a SASE for catalog to RE/Search Publications, 20 Romolo
#B, San Francisco CA, 94133, (415)362-1465.

Hope that helps.


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From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: one more thing
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 2 Jan 93 03:05:18 GMT

In article <1hqlp7INN9f3@cronkite.cisco.com> kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae) writes:
>>
>>how the hell do you clean an ampallang
>
>
>	Boil it for five minutes, or soak overnight in spic 'n span.


<SMMMMMMACCCCCKKS>

luv ya

actually i was busy new years eve in places where cleaning wouldnt be possible
and was in a simialr situation the few days before too
and its not looking to good
well it looks great
but feeling is another thing

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:18:57 -0500 
From: David O Hunt <bluelobster+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: TATTOOS IN JAPAN

Hey!

There's a very good chance I'll be going to Japan next summer, and that
I'll be in Tsukuba City (NE of Tokyo).  I've been playing with the idea
of getting a tattoo, and an oriental dragon (done in the orient :) could
be really good!

Does anyone have any advice?  Price range?  Recommended artists?

David Hunt
bluelobster+@cmu.edu
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From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: Nipple Piercing Questions
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:18:36 GMT

JSCHWIMMER@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Joshua Schwimmer) writes:
>I'm piercing my nipple in a week (surgical steel, 14 gauge), and I'm
>curious whether anyone has any advice or comments on this type of piercing.

Don't do it yourself, have it done professionally, for aesthetic
reasons mainly.

Consider having the piercer use a 12 gauge needle.  The person
who did my piercing had a hell of time forcing the 14 gauge ring
through the 14 gauge hole--I won't even elaborate on the pain
that put me through!  My friend had his done immediately after me
and insisted she use a 12 gauge, his piercing went much better.

Consider using a niobium ring.  I've found that my skin likes it
better than stainless steel.

>Which vitamin supplements enhance tissue regeneration?

Eat a healthy, well-balanced selection of foods and you should
heal quickly and without problems.  Things that speed the healing
process often have side-effects like scar tissue.

Trust in your body's ability to heal itself.  Keep it clean, well
nourished and don't interfere.

>Do those with recently pierced nipples find them too tender to sleep on?

The first three nights were difficult.  Pain wasn't really the
problem, it was just the fear that I'd rip the ring out in the
middle of the night.  I taped it down for a few nights but gave
up on that because my skin didn't like the adhesive in the tape.

>Have the piercings significantly interfered with anyone's daily activities?

If you get your right nipple pierced, driving with a seat belt on
can be a whole new adventure in sensation.  :-)

>How long, generally, do they take to heal?

That depends on how well you eat and take care of the piercing.
And, just because the piercing feels good doesn't mean it's
totally healed.  I wouldn't plan on any serious play for at
least four months.

>Has anyone found Hibiclens to be too harsh?  What other surgical
>scrubs work well with piercings?

Use soap and warm water twice a day.  Keep everything away from
it, especially mouths.  Use the warm water to clean the crusty
bits away then coat the ring with soap and slide it back and
forth through the piercing.  Repeat the process with clean water.

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From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: TATTOOS IN JAPAN
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 16:39:37 GMT

Check ou the area around Yakuska and sasebo near one of
the US type military bases,. you'll find something.
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From: randyb@calera.com (Randy Bias [415]329-9619)
Subject: Re: Nipple Piercing Questions
Organization: Calera Recognition Systems
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:02:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.015257.554@news.wesleyan.edu> JSCHWIMMER@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Joshua Schwimmer) writes:
>Do those with recently pierced nipples find them too tender to sleep
>on?  Have the piercings significantly interfered with anyone's daily
>activities?  (I've read the thread on large breasts and nipple
>piercings.)  How long, generally, do they take to heal?
My pierce was too tender to sleep on the first day.  For the next two days it
was a bit tender, but doable if I didn't move too much.  After that it's been
fine.  It has been a month and a half and I haven't seen a problem with
infections, blood, or pain since the first week I had it.  I have been
religious about taking the Zinc (3x50mg a day for 4 weeks, 1x50mg a day
thereafter) and washing my pierce (with Hibiclens.  No problems).

All together I found the pierce easy to get, easy to clean, and healing
extremely quickly.  I'm not going to try it, but I'm pretty sure I could change
the ring if I wanted to.  BTW, I used a Niobium ring since I tend to have
problems with silver or gold until the pierce heals completely.


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