HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
Subject: Re: Corrado SLC or 325is?
Reply-To: finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Organization: Grumman Data Systems	
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:19:48 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-10963]: invader.navo.navy.mil

In article <1bh9jlINNkpr@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, humpty@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Daniel Ong) writes:
|> jcf@nmitd4.sr.hp.com (Jim Fuller) writes:
|> >>In rec.autos, cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan) writes:
|> >>   I am thinking of buying either a BMW 325is coupe or VW Corrado VR6 soon. 
|> >>   Is the Bimmer's price tag of an extra US$10,000 worth it over the Corrado? 
|> >>   Are there any other suggestions for a sports car in this range? 

|> VW is no comparison with the blue and white badge. The

Don't look now, but I think brand bias is rearing it's ugly head.

|> $10000 difference really buys you a true drivers car rather than a
|> pretender. I have thought of that before but drive the two cars and
|> you'll know what I mean.

Umm, I have driven the two cars.  The way I see it, the $10,000 buys
you nothing but an extra letter on the badge.

|> The VW is a good car compared with the others
|> and for me it's the closest you can get to a BMW powerplant. But the
|> bimmer still the truer drivers car in which you get involve in and it
|> is truely the ultimate driving machine. 
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

To paraphrase Michael Penn, I think BMW said a mouthfull and you
swallowed whole.  Catchy phrases and marketing do not a sports car
make.  A sweet motor and impeccable chassis do.

|> I write this as my own experience of driving BMW's. I hope this
|> could help you. 

While I'm sure that you are knowledgeable about the capabilities of
the BMW's, you don't mention any experience with VW's.  Maybe you should
try a VR6 Corrado.  I was impressed.

BTW, check out the comparison between these two cars that was run in
(was it Automobile?) a while back.  The Corrado basically left the
Bimmer in the weeds.  Read it and weep.

|> 
                                   JASON

Kenneth
finnegan@navo.navy.mil

Newsgroups: rec.autos,alt.autos.antique
From: jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght)
Subject: Clunk noise in Caddy finally solved!
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:15:21 GMT

Some of you may remember my post from a onth or so ago trying to discern
the cause a of a clunk noise inmy Cadillac.  I described the noise as
being exactrly the noise you wwould get from bad U-Joints however I had
pulled my drive shaft and took it to a machanic and the mechanic said my
U-Joints (Constant Velocity Joints actually) were tight as could be and
nothing wrong with them.  THe noise was intermittent back then and has
worsened so that now it is constant, louder, and can be heard at much
higher speeds.  Also the car has started vibrating badly when driving.
I took the car to Sears for one of those free brake inspections.  I had
inspected everything I could think of and thought maybe they would find
the noise.  Sure enough they did!  The mechanic put the car up on the
lift and ran it with the wheels off the ground.  We walked underneath
and there absolutely no doubt about it... the U-Joints comprising the
rear Constant Velocity joint are deffinitely the problem.  When you get
rihgt under there you tell and you can see them vibrating badly when
turning.  The machanic examined them and said they were tight as could
be and he could feel no play in them at all.  If he just examined them
by hand he would swear they were fine but when the car isrunninf there
is no doubt about it.  We ran the car very slowly and you can see were
one U-Joint grabs and pulls on itself.  CLearly I need to replace these
before my car earns the olymoic gold medal in pole-vaulting!  On a side
note... it proved good that I went for the free brake inspection because
my breakes were just starting to rb the rivets.  They have not cut the
drums or disks so I parked the car till I get the brakes and can replace
them.  Caught that problem just in time.  I am now left with problem
of finding someone to do the U-Joint work... even the Cadillac dealer
here wont. 

Jim
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From: bhatlas@pyrite.som.cwru.edu (Sunil Bhatla)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers
Subject: 195/60 R15 tires on 1991 Escort GT? (instead of 185/60 R15)
Followup-To: rec.autos
Date: 13 Oct 1992 03:21:50 GMT
Organization: WSOM CSG, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Distribution: usa
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My fiancee is looking to replace her tires (Goodyear Eagle GT+4 185/60 R15).
The best price I could find on these tires is $112 per tire.

I was told that if I moved up to 195/60 R15 (a more "standard" size) I could
get a set of Yokohama 398 high performance tires for $71 each.

Can I safely switch to this larger size tire? The Ford owners manual doesn't
say much. Apparently, the Escort GT prior to 1990 came with 195/60 tires.
What are the consequences of switching sizes?

I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks!

Sunil.
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Subject: Re: flat engines
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:19:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.233712.15024@newsgate.sps.mot.com> mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw) writes:
>I have followed this thread for some time, and as yet have heard what the
>superior traits are.  Merely because a Ferrari, Porsche, whatever used it
>is not an attribute.  What is the real advantages of flat engines with
>respect to performance, durability, or costs?

the original thread was in engine balancing.  flat engines are
inherently better balanced than vees or inlines.  they are also more
expensive, though nobody has been able to come out with a clear
explanation why.


eliot




Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: fsmlm2@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: sho limits
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:57:43 GMT

In article <3826@unisql.UUCP>, wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
> In article <14827@auspex-gw.auspex.com> tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett) writes:
>>easily invoke oversteer in the car.  The limits are so high, though that
>>I don't know how much understeer would appear past the limit.
> 
> 	It plows like a CrisCraft with a broken rudder.  And then,
> of course, when you get off the pedal it switches to severe oversteer.
> I almost bought it this way on a tight S curve when I first had the car:
> took the second turn way too fast, started to plow, lifted to get traction
> to the front, and broke the rear loose.  Fishtail city.  


        It appears to me, Sir, you need to learn how to drive.
From: jslee@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (John Lee <jslee>)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Petro Jelly on terminals
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:55:55 GMT
Reply-To: jslee@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (John Lee)
Distribution: usa

> norcott_bill@tandem.com  (Bill Norcott) writes:
>What was probably actually applied to the terminals was silicone
>dielectric grease.  This stuff also repels water (corrosion) but 
>unlike Vaseline, it conducts electricity.  This is the same stuff
>you use to grease distributor rotors & spark plug leads.  

Dielectric means it does not conduct electricity, else when you use
this stuff on spark plug leads wouldn't the spark current travel down
the greased boot to ground rather than go through the center conductor?
I think a current-carrying grease would spoil the entire arrangement
here as far as the ignition system is concerned.

I was taught in auto shop (high school) wheel bearing grease, or probably
anything youhappened to have, was the grease to use.
JSLee
From: damong@manyjars.WPI.EDU (Damon Francis Gentile)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Exotic Cars
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:33:48 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: manyjars.wpi.edu

>In article <1992Oct12.164250.5254@oracle.us.oracle.com> alaw@uucp (Alvin W. Law) writes:
>>
>>You'll never ever see exotic cars going over 65 mph on the freeways
>>and 15 mph on the street.  Most exotic cars are meant for showing off.

Au contrair. There is  guy in southern New Hampshire with a VERY bruised
NSX and an even more bruised ego.....   ;)

		o    o
                   >
                \    / 
                 ----
From: sabg2063@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott A. Butzin)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Engine additives....which is best? Slick 50,...
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:29:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bvu4Dw.83v
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

djm48887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel J. Moisson) writes:

>    I have been seeing many more engine additives other than 
>Slick 50 now a days.  I was wondering if anyone has heard which one
>is really the best.  I just saw some add on TV about DuraLube that
>looked very convincing.  I think I have seen one from STP too?
>Help!!  I need advice before I throw $25 in 1 quart of something!

Here's some advice for all you people who think you need Slick 50,
DuraLube, et al.  Change you oil and filter every 3000 miles, more
in the winter if you live in the north, use a quality oil and filter,
and forget the $25 can of garbage.

Scott A. Butzin
Automotive Systems Lab
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign

(Obviously my opinion, not the University's)  
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: fsmlm2@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: SHO owners?y
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 06:09:58 GMT

In article <3930137@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>, siqif@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Siqi Fan) writes:
> Hi SHO owners:
> 
|> I am not SHO owner neither. But I want to learn something about it as a
|> potential buyer.
        
        If you really want a SHO, all it takes is money.. :)
        But remember that you really dont have to put out mega bucks
        for one.   Even here in Alaska, bargains can be had at dealers.
        They are very unique, fun to drive, very classy.  We get exceptional
        MPG with ours, (26 mpg) 
        IT's a 90 (black of course).  IF you want to ask anything in
        particular, EMAIL me, I would be happy to tell you what we know
         btw, its HIS car (my spouse) I drive a T'bird Super Coupe!

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: kimnach@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Subject: Re: Two articles on seat belts
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: 14 Oct 1992 16:00 EST  

In article <26366@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense) writes...
>In rec.autos, walkerr@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Robert A Walker) writes:
>>In article <26355@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense) wri
> 
>>There is no "right" to drive,  driving is a privledge.  Or so i was told
> 
>Well, first off, there are always exceptions. Secondly, the cases where
>a seat belt will actually cause an injury or death where lack of one
> 
>But then again, Darwinian theory is all for letting you ride without,
>I'm just saying that I shouldn't be forced to pay for what I see as
>your short-sightedness. (And statistics back up my case far more than
>any exceptions you can come up with.)
> 
>Ron                          Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
>			     The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
>			     Make a U-turn to God.
>The irony is priceless.

Ahh, statistics.  The insurance companies are betting that you as an 
individual will not be involved in an accident, while you're betting that 
you will be.  Why else would you have liability coverage?

Greg
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From: rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com (Bob Rusk)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Do you have a Sable?  What's your MPG?
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:14:10 GMT
	<1992Oct6.202635.13075@cs.ucla.edu> <67276@cup.portal.com>
	<154@bluehau.bubble.org>
Reply-To: rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division

On 12 Oct 92 21:09:46 GMT, hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) wrote:

>sly9y@cc.usu.edu says:

>>We have a 91 sable with the 3.0, and on the highway we get 31-32 mpg, but 
>>around town it suffers.  something like low twenties.  About the above, 
>>_do not_ drive around town in overdrive this is just for steady driving above
>>45 mph.  I have heard too many stories about gm's th700r4, which is essentially
>>the same thing, only it is an incredible piece of *#$%!  When you drive around
>>town in od, it is constantly shifting in and out of od (which wears it out 
>>very quickly) and you also have to worry about lugging the engine.

>Huh? Overdrive doesn't engage AT ALL until you go over 45 mph.
>As long as you're driving local streets under 45 mph, the effect
>is the same as having the trans in "regular drive" mode.

Actually, on my '87 Sable, overdrive with locked torque convertor would
engage at 37 mph if I drove it just right.  And my '90 Stanza's overdrive
will engage at 27 mph, although the torque convertor won't lock in
overdrive until you get past 45 mph.  And my step-father's '83 Maxima's
OD would also come on at well under 40mph, accompanied by lockup.

Also, when I sold the Sable, it had 105K on the original tranny.  I was
the second owner, and the first owner didn't keep it out of OD in town.
And that Maxima is still going strong, with well over 140K miles on the
original tranny.  The Maxima's OD only gets shut off when it decides to
hunt back and forth between 3rd and 4th on light grades & such.

The problems with early th700r4's (and early UltraDrives and a number of
other early 4-speed automatics) aren't too different from the problems that
other automotive "innovations" have suffered in their early years.  Even
the UltraDrive and th700r4 are said to now be adequately built for the task.

--
--
 Bob Rusk
 rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com
 My thoughts, probably not Harris'.
From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Two articles on seat belts
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:54:59 GMT
Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.autos, walkerr@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Robert A Walker) writes:

[about a 180 mph camaro with no stock parts]
>Not a one.  And who said it was safe, anything with a hyped engine can
>go fast, no body said you were gonna live, Personally, anything above
>75 or 80 and my shorts turn brown. Well at least in anything that i've
>ever owned.

Should try mine, a 88 celica turbo alltrac. You don't even realize you're
going over 100 mph on empty highways (with traffic, the other cars do
seem to zip by rather quickly:) Or parhaps a Mercedes 300 on the autobahn
going 130 mph. It seems fast, but by no means unreasonable. (top speed
in a 300 was 245 kmh <~150mph> which occurred above red-line, in case
anyone wants to know, although it might go a little faster, but I was 
already in the red, oops:)

>>How about revoking your liscense for life, sort of like they do in Germany?

>That would be the smart thing to do, but then again, after a while people
>smarten up.  My father was drunk when he was 22 or so and was trying to
...
>do with cars along the way.  Real genius huh?

As for your father, that had a profound effect on him. Now think about
if you knew some folks that had their liscense revoked for life, and
also remember that this was something that cost you thousands of dollars
and months of your time to get. Do you think it likely that you would
risk your liscense even once by drinking and driving? As for your aunt,
she needs some serious help, unfortunately, she has to want to be helped,
or it won't do her any good.

Ron                          Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
			     The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
			     Make a U-turn to God.
The irony is priceless.
From: cloutier@Software.Mitel.COM (Mark Cloutier)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Timing belts on Honda
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:35:20 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


I called my dealer as a result of these articles. They state that on my
91 Accord the belt should be replaced at 144,000 Kilometers or 90,000 miles.
I didnt ask whether or not the damage would be covered if the belt broke 
before this mileage. However this part is to be replaced well beyond the
standard warranty for the car of 100,000 Km.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: Big or Small,was FWD or RWD: Which is better?
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:37:09 GMT

In article <Bvuvws.36p@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
|> 
|> In article <13407@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard) writes:
|> >In Article <51189@engr.UVic.CA> atovornik writes:
|> >
|> >>Since I want to get through snow drifts, give me a mid-'seventies Olds
|> >>Custom Cruiser with ten 1"-thick sheets of 4X8 plywood in the back. The car
|> >>must have Posi, and studded snow tires. Nobody would keep up with me. 
|> >
|> >>Why use snow tires with big treads?
|> >
|> >>Ans: The big treads force the snow into spaces between the treads, getting
|> > >    down below the snow, onto something more grippy. I prefer studs,even.
|> > >    Light little cars don't have the necessary weight to sink down, dis-
|> > >    place the snow and get to some surface (blacktop or gravel or concrete)
|> > >    that roads are made of. These little cars are the ones that wipe out
|> > >    in the white stuff more easily regardless of FWD or RWD than big, heavy machines 
|> > >    with blocks of concrete(or other suitable heavy stuff) in the trunk and RWD.
|> >>   Let's face it, you cannot change the laws of physics. Big cars by
|> >>their weight get more traction and better control on snow or ice than 
|> >>little cars by their lack of weight.
|> >>The debate is no longer about "FWD or RWD, Which is better?" For winter
|> >>driving: "Big or Small, Which is better."
|> >
|> >	Big heavy cars need more power to displace the greater volume of snow,
|> >	slush, whatever, that they'll have to face by virtue of their sinking
|> >	in.
|> >
|> >	Lighter cars, not sinking is so much, do not need to displace as much
|> >	gunk, so their smaller engines can be sufficient to get through.
|> 
|> All those in favor of making a solid foundation in basic physics a
|> prerequisite for access to the rec.autos.* hierarchy, raise their hands
|> and say "Aye!"


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: condict@next19.osf.org (Michael Condict)
Subject: Question on Saturn ABS
Keywords: ABS
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:27:22 GMT

We are about to buy a 1992 Saturn SL2 with the ABS option.
I read in the current Road & track that this is an "inexpensive"
implementation in which the computer, on detecting wheel slippage,
reduces pressure on the output side of the master cylinder.  This
implies to me that braking force to all four wheels is reduced
equally whenever any one wheel begins to lock up.  Is this true?

If so, does this mean that if my two left tires are on ice and
the two right tires are on dry pavement I cannot stop the car?!

Does anyone know the true story?

Michael Condict
OSF Research Inst.
Cambridge, MA
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: nau@ssesco.com (William Nau)
Subject: Re: '93 Probe vs. Celica
Organization: SSESCO
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:50:58 GMT

>>The probe I'm looking at has the (Mazda?) 6 cyl engine, 24 valve, 5sp manual
>>transmission.  It seems to be the more modern car.

>The 6 cyl engine is a FORD product, not Mazda.

It's my understanding that the 6 cyl was a Ford product from 1987 (whatever
the first year was) until 1992.  The new models carry a 6 cyl from Mazda
with no Ford engine available.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: formula@athena.mit.edu (Ronald R. Duff Jr.)
Subject: Mustang mailing list address
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:13:04 GMT


	Could someone E-mail me the E-mail address of the mustang mailing
list?
	 Thanks in advance,
				Ron
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: bcacciol@encore.com (Boston Billy)
Subject: Re: Auto Loan Rates?
Reply-To: bcacciol@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:11:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.105643.6152@wam.umd.edu>, huesmann@wam.umd.edu
(Joseph Edward Huesmann) writes:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I'm just trying to get an idea of auto loan rates around the country,
> from banks and other financial institutions (not dealers). If you
> wouldn't mind sharing with me such info, please e-mail me. If you could
> provide details (length, $-value, etc), I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
> 

Here in sunny South Florida, the banks are a'gouging us at the rate
of 8.5 to over 9 percent. So I called AAA, and they have auto loans
available:

4 years at 7.75
49 months + at 8.25

No loan fees, no nothing upfront. You can finance 100 percent of the
loan, too. Call your local AAA office, and they can qualify you over
the phone, with results at least within 24 hours. I have no attachment
with AAA here, except as a member. I believe the loans are made
with Chemical Bank.


bc
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 00:09:24 GMT

In article 10290@schbbs.mot.com, CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Craig Witkowski) writes:
>------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>>>  |                 " Have You Driven A FORD Lately ! "                 |
>>
>>I've seen the new FORD LATELY advertised for a number of years. Why have't
>>I seen any of them on the road?

>Yeah I've driven a Ford lately.  My company car is a Ford Taurus wagon.
>I should call it a "Clit-Taurus" 'cause I've got to fiddle with the damn
>thing to make it run!  It's a '92 and at 3000 miles I drove it to the shop
>to fix the broken lower engine mounts.  At 4700 miles it was TOWED to another
>shop to fix the snapped CV joint and while fixing that the shop determined
>that the alternator was going belly-up and replaced that.  Then at 6000 miles
>the hardware holding the engine mounts vibrated loose and it was back to the
>shop for that heap! :-(  It's seen almost as many miles verticaly as it has
>horizontaly!
>
>I should just stick with my PERSONAL car.  A fine running, no problem,
>1987 CHEVROLET MONTE CARLO SS AEROCOUPE with 47,000+ on the road.  It's only
>vertical trips being for routine maintenance (as opposed to a Ford where you
>pull into a gas station and say "Fill it with oil and check the gas!" :-) )
>
>GM - Great Machines!
>CHEVROLET - Cruising Highways at Extreme Velocity, Runs Only Low Elapsed Times!
>
>Craig Witkowski,  CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com
>KA2IBV

I agree with you. Lemonade. The only vertical miles on my '87 Firebird Formula 
were put on it for oil changes, worn out tires and replacing the lube in the 
tranny and rear end. Routine maintainance. 75 k miles. Next time your company 
insists on supplying you with ford wheels, just say no. Get them to order you
a Camaro.

BTW, I've owned three Montes. My favorite was the '70 350 two barrel with
a reworked powerglide. I put headers and a low restriction dual exhaust
on 'er. That was one of the best sounding engines I ever heard. It was a
real great winter car...

May the Torque be with you,
Just say NO! to front wheel drive.

Andreas.