From: dmccart@gomez.intel.com (D. J. McCarthy)
Subject: Re: future of rec.games.frp
Organization: Funky Groovy Channel 27
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:46:45 GMT

Arioch (arioch@cellar.org) wrote:
> I have heard that this newsgroup is going down on 8/25/92. Is this true?

	Yes, it is.

> If so, what is going to replace it?

	Where have you BEEN?

	Here's the voting result and charters; I saved this file on May 19
so it's obviously been coming for quite a while.

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> From: millerl@wilma.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller)
> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.frp
> Subject: RESULT:  rec.games.frp reorganization passes

RESULTS OF REORGANIZATION VOTE FOR REC.GAMES.FRP

After discounting 17 duplicate votes, and 68 votes with obviously phony
names that were submitted from the same site within a few minutes of
each other (which were rejected as a transparent attempt to stuff the
ballot box), 448 people voted on the reorganization of rec.games.frp.
Because of abstain votes on individual newsgroups, none of the pairings
following actually add up to 448.

groupname                        result count    margin   percent
----------                       ------ -----    ------   -------
rec.games.frp.advocacy           passes 329:100  229      76.7%
rec.games.frp.announce moderated passes 366:72   294      83.6%
rec.games.frp.archives moderated passes 357:69   288      83.8%
rec.games.frp.dnd                passes 357:84   273      81.0%
rec.games.frp.marketplace        passes 348:76   272      82.1%
rec.games.frp.misc               passes 328:104  224      75.9%

As shown, all proposals have passed under the voting criteria in the
guidelines for creating new groups, namely yes votes exceed no's by 100
or more and yes votes form at least 66.7% of all votes.

SUMMARY OF QUESTIONS DECIDED BY THIS VOTE

NAME:      rec.games.frp.advocacy
CHARTER:   Frequently discussion on rec.games.frp amounts to vigorously
           overstated disagreement about the quality or lack thereof of
           a particular game system or game company. This unmoderated
           discussion newsgroup will give readers of the rec.games.frp
           hierarchy an outlet for such material. This newsgroup would
           be expected to hold such lines of discussion as: Champions
           versus GURPS; AD&Dv1 versus AD&Dv2; AD&D stinks; class
           systems versus skill based systems; game critiques wanted;
           mine are bigger than yours; and so on.

NAME:      rec.games.frp.announce (Moderated)
MODERATOR: Coyt Watters <rg-frp-announce@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
           backup by Joshua Levy <joshua@veritas.com>
CHARTER:   This group is intended for all announcements relating to
           roleplaying games. This may include, but is not limited to,
           game release announcements, pbem announcements, convention
           announcements, and any other events. Discussion of material
           in this newsgroup should be done in the appropriate
           roleplaying discussion group.

NAME:      rec.games.frp.archives (Moderated)
MODERATOR: Mitch Gold <goldm@rpi.edu>
           backup by Steve Mansfield <smm@uunet.uu.net>
CHARTER:   This newsgroup will serve as a temporary archive for postings
           that should be archived on one of the anonymous ftp or
           mail-server sites, and which do not belong in one of the
           other roleplaying newsgroups. Therefore only finished work
           such as net.books, campaign background, convention modules,
           the tabolport project, fiction, poetry, compilations, and so
           on should be posted here. This newsgroup is not for
           discussion purposes, and discussion of anything in this
           newsgroup should take place in the appropriate roleplaying
           discussion group.

NAME:      rec.games.frp.dnd
CHARTER:   This unmoderated discussion newsgroup is for discussion of
           the official rules and settings of the D&D family of
           roleplaying games, produced by TSR, Inc., including
           Collector's Edition Dungeons and Dragons (D&D), Basic D&D,
           Advanced Dungeons and Dragons (AD&D), and AD&D Second
           Edition. This proposed newsgroup would include discussion of
           TSR's rules and products and compatible products, such as:
           character classes; character races; monsters; magic spells;
           weapons; Greyhawk; the Forgotten Realms; the Known World;
           Dark Sun; Spelljammer; RavenLoft; Hollow World; City State of
           the Invincible Overlord; and so on. Crossposting between this
           group and other groups in the rec.games.frp hierarchy is
           discouraged, however issues of general interest that happen
           to involve a D&D rulebook or setting are more than welcome.

NAME:      rec.games.frp.marketplace
CHARTER:   This unmoderated newsgroup is intended to hold For Sale and
           Wanted postings for roleplaying game materials.

RENAME rec.games.frp TO rec.games.frp.misc
NAME:      rec.games.frp.misc
CHARTER:   This is a discussion group for all aspects of roleplaying
           games. The name "frp" refers to Fantasy Role-Playing, but
           this does not mean that the scope of the group is restricted
           to pseudo medieval settings where magic is common and
           powerful. The common mis-use of the word "fantasy" comes from
           the marketing distinction between the literary genres of
           science fiction and fantasy. Fantasy actually means anything
           that is set in a time or place that is **in some essential
           way** unlike our own.  Science Fiction fits this definition
           of fantasy, as do other genres including Horror, Tolkeinesque
           High Fantasy, and Westerns. Lines of discussion in this
           newsgroup can be expected to include, among other topics:
           roleplaying advice; gamemastering advice; reviews of
           roleplaying products; scenario ideas; rules; errata; gaming
           anecdotes; and many peripherally connected subjects.
           Crossposting between this group and other roleplaying
           discussion groups is to be discouraged.

LIST OF VOTERS

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--
D. J. McCarthy <dmccart@gomez.intel.com>
"Lee, when you kill a president, it isn't murder. Murder is a tawdry little
 crime.... shopkeepers get murdered. But when a president kets killed, when
 Julius Caesar got killed -- he was *assassinated*.   --Booth, from "Assassins"
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