From: olounela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Olli Lounela)
Subject: Re: SOS!  IGS is in dangeous.
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:08:31 GMT

In article <1k56t6INNc1p@shelley.u.washington.edu> li@aa.washington.edu
(UFO @ IGS) writes:
>Enjoy playing and kibitzing on IGS? Yes! IGS is a wonderful place for go 
>fans from all over the world to play Go and to meet new friends. This 
>wonderful place will be GONE very soon if we don't do anything. Why? The 
>root on  128.32.201.46  decided to shut down IGS in three weeks :-( :-( 
>because some bad potatoes abuse the IGS too much. They sent too many junk 
>emails to root to complain everything on IGS that make root mad and some 
>people used obscene language to harass other players. Most of us think IGS 
>is guaranteed, but it isn't. IGS' managers work for it voluntarily. They 
>got very few thanks but lots of trouble. Even they find a new site for IGS, 
>the problems still exist. Let's work together to save IGS (if we can). 

I agree completely! I find it unbelievable that some people (for loss of
a better word...) actually spend time harrassing the root at icsib18
_who_have_nothing_whatsoever_to_do_with_the_IGS_!!! (except for having
kindly allowed IGS to be run there, of course) Besides being very very
very childish in the extreme (to put it mildly), it is also equally
stupid...  I begin to wonder just when are we going to see the end of
people who presume to know what *other* people want...  never, I guess. 
Some people should never have been granted internet access (thoughts of
room-temperature (in Centigrade scale) IQ spring to my mind). 

I really think that the IGS is a Good Thing, that it helps promote go in
the Western World (and in the Eastern, too), that it improves the skill
of the players (and onlookers) attending, and that it actually is just
about the only real chance to play for *LOTS* of people!

And some people would want to see an end to it! Gawds above!!!

I do and will consider the act of running/improving the IGS a generous
thing, for actually it must be very costly in terms of time and effort!
I count it in the same category as keeping the go archive (thanks,
Adrian!), which also must be time consuming. 

I really find it hard to credit that some people would think that trying
to log into icsib18, or that sending mail to its root (and in
unprintable language at that!), would improve anything at all.  It has
been clearly stated in lots of places that this does nothing of the
kind! Lots of people have done wonderful work, building clients,
answering all kinds of questions (Adrian even putting up a FAQ), and
helping people in all kinds of ways. 

I really detest the people who do this kind of harm!!!!! Go get a life!
If you cannot agree with the concept of the IGS, KEEP OUT OF IT! HANDS
OFF!!! *IGS* *is* *not* *compulsory*!

I myself am a regular of the IGS but have nothing to do with the IGS
otherwise, except for some correspondence, and having the fortune to
call them friends of mine.  I have been in the IGS from the beginning, I
have seen it grow and improve, I have seen most of the growing pains
(even that one day when trying to start a game crashed it).  I really
want to express my absolute and undying gratitude for these selfless
people who do the enormous job of improving and running it!

> 1) Behave oneself (Okay, It doesn't work for some people.:-)) ;
> 2) Registration (It may cause extra work for system managers) ;
> 3) ......
>
>Please make your suggestion/contribution to save IGS. We can send our 
>discussion to system managers. Hope that will help us to have a clean 
>IGS. 
>
>BTW, don't send any email to root.
>
>UFO[NR] at U of Washington, Seattle.

However much I dislike increasing the workload, registration might be
the thing to do. 

My apologies to anyone who has nothing to do with this this sad, sad,
sad affair and thinks this post not quite proper.  This post is my first
ever that can really be called a flame, and truly this affair has made
me ***_VERY_*** angry indeed.  It's the very first time in *years* I've
really been angry. 

I would include several smileys, but in the context that seems improper. 

-- 
	Olli, 3 dan

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