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From: carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk (David Carlisle)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Finding width of on-going \halign
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:38:34 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester
In-reply-to: mjm@spekl.as.arizona.edu's message of 18 Aug 92 02:08:40 GMT

>>>>> On 18 Aug 92 02:08:40 GMT, mjm@spekl.as.arizona.edu (Mark McCaughrean) said:


Mark>      In the middle of an \halign, I want to use \noalign to set a
Mark> paragraph of text (say). I want this paragraph to have the same
Mark> width as the table I'm setting using \halign. How do I get TeX
Mark> to tell me what the width of the table is, i.e. the width of the
Mark> vertical box I'm currently in the middle of? (I don't want to use
Mark> \multispan, by the way: I want the exact width of the table, and 
Mark> I don't want to have to know how many columns to span).

Mark>      I figured I could make a \setbox with an \hrule inside it,
Mark> hoping the \hrule would be the width of the table, and that then
Mark> I could use \wd to get the width of the box. I can't get it to
Mark> work. Seems like TeX must know the width though, or does it only
Mark> work it out when it has digested the whole table?

TeX only `knows' the widths when it completes the table. This makes
what you want to do quite tricky, One possibilty is to put the whole
table in a \setbox0=\vbox{  } then you can get the final width of the
table using \wd0. You then `only' have to \lastbox your way back up
the table, removing one row at a time, back to the point where you
want to insert your vertical material, then you can 
\unvbox0 % the top half of the table
{\hsize=<saved value of \wd0>
your stuff}
\unvbox<where ever you have saved the bottom of the table>

David
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From: raycole@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Ray Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Printer help
Date: 18 Aug 1992 18:09:14 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Help! I'm having trouble setting up tex to use with my printer.  My setup is
an Atari 1040ST and an Epson LQ-510 and I'm running CS-TeX 4.0.  The printer
driver I'm using is the DVI_N24 with -y=eps to set it up as and Epson LQ-850.
The problem I'm having is that when I preview a document it doesn't always 
match what I get when I print it.  I ran the testpage that was included with 
the package and set my top and left side magins that are passed to the printer
driver so that the box on the page is centered 1 inch from the edges of the 
paper like it says its supposed to be and its been working fine, up until now.

Now I am trying to print a document that uses twocolumn.sty and its definitly 
not giving me the same results when I veiw it as when I print it.  Specifically
the bottom margin is all messed up.  I've had to set the \textheight down to
8.5 to get a 1 inch bottom margin when I print, but when viewed on screen it
looks as if there should be nearly a 2 inch margin on the bottom. 

For those unfamiliar with CS-TeX its mearly a front end for TeX that allows 
you to edit, tex, makeindex, bibtex, print, and view via a graphic interface.
Underneath it all is still standard TeX, it just packages all of the pieces 
together.   I know that some of my problems may be fairly machine dependent
but any help would be greatly appreciated.  If anyone out there has any line 
on english documentation for CS-TeX that would be great also.  Thanx in 
advance.

Ray


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Subject: \chapter formatting oddity
From: gunars@spss.com (Gunars V Lucans)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:08:04 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.


I'm having some formatting problems with the following LaTeX file.
It's a skeleton for a new document that currently only has a chapter
and a series of sections defined.

    \documentstyle{report}
    \begin{document}

    \chapter{First chapter heading}
    \section{Section number 1}
    \section{Section number 2}
    \section{Section number 3}
    \section{Section number 4}
    \section{Section number 5}
    \section{Section number 6}
    \section{Section number 7}
    \section{Section number 8}
    \section{Section number 9}
    \section{Section number 10}
    \section{Section number 11}
    \section{Section number 12}
    \section{Section number 13}

    \end{document}

With 13 sections (may be different for A4 paper sizes), the "Chapter 1" 
appears in the proper place, but the rest of the page is empty and
"First chapter heading" appears on the next page along with the
section headings.  The formatting problem clears up if I have less
than 13 sections.

If I put some text after section 4, the chapter heading is properly
formatted, but I get a page break before section 5 even though there
is more room on the page.

I expect that this has something to do with the layout definition for
section headings, but I'm surprised that it separates the two lines of
the chapter heading instead of breaking between section items.  Is
there a simple cure for this? (..as you can tell, I'm a LaTeX novice)

Thanks, Gun\={a}rs

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From: vgeorge@athena.mit.edu (Varghese George)
Subject: FOOTNOTE LENGTH:  CAN ONE INCREASE IT? ******************
Keywords: FOOTNOTE
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:16:14 GMT


In a LaTeX document I have a footnote that is several paragraphs long.  LaTeX 
breaks it into two pages, that is, part of it is at the foot of one page and the
rest at the foot of the next page. 

Is there a way to force LaTeX to keep it in one page?

Thanks in advance. 

Varghese

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From: elmar@knipp.en.open.de (Elmar Knipp)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Rounding bug in Xdvi patchlevel 15
Date: 16 Aug 92 09:07:21 GMT
Organization: Private/FRG

devet@wsinis01.info.win.tue.nl (Arjan de Vet) writes:


>I'm trying to let Xdvi (patchlevel 15) work with the MakeTeXPK script from
>dvips. It works OK for fonts with sizes less or equal to 746dpi but not with
>larger font sizes:

>- MakeTeXPK lcmssb8 895 300 2+295/300
>virmf &plain \mode:=imagen; mag:=2+295/300; scrollmode; input lcmssb8 \</dev/null
>This is METAFONT, C Version 2.7

>(/usr/local/lib/mf/inputs/lcmssb8.mf (/usr/local/lib/mf/inputs/cmbase.mf)
>[...]
>[124]) ) )
>Font metrics written on lcmssb8.tfm.
>Output written on lcmssb8.895gf (128 characters, 26480 bytes).
>Transcript written on lcmssb8.log.
>Can't find font lcmssb8 at 896 dpi; using 746 dpi instead.
>[...]

>Xdvi looks for 896dpi, but the arguments it gives to MakeTeXPK are for
>895dpi. Is this a possible rounding error in Xdvi? Does anyone have a
>solution or bug fix?

I had the same problem. My solution was to patch the
procedure PRE_FONT_OPEN in font_open.c line 714 following.


/* Beginn von Elmar geaendert */
#define RUNDE(a)        ((int) ((a) + 0.5))
            Sprintf(mkpk, "%s %s %d %d %s", MAKEPKCMD, font, RUNDE(mag / 5.0),
                pixels_per_inch, magstring(RUNDE(mag / 5.0)));
/* Ende von Elmar geaendert */


Elmar

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From: munson@acacia.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Ethan V. Munson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Help with apalike.sty and apalike.bst (LaTeX/BibTeX)
Date: 17 Aug 1992 15:52:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: acacia.cs.berkeley.edu

I got the following request for help from a grad student in Psychology
here at Berkeley.  She sent me a patch for apalike.bst that fixes the
"&" problem.  However, the other two problems are beyond the limited
skills of either one of us.  Can anyone help us find a solution?  TeX is
not widely used in psychology circles.  It's use might be more
widespread if it handled APA styles correctly.

Please reply by e-mail even if you post a response to the net.

Ethan Munson
munson@cs.berkeley.edu

; 
; I'm using LaTeX/BibTeX for my dissertation and i've
; noticed a few bugs.  I thought i'd pass them on to
; you in the remote chance that you've fixed them.
; 
; I think the main problem is because i'm using APA format
; (apalike.sty).  The first bug is that citations and references with
; two authors should be separated by "&", rather than "and" (e.g. smith
; & jones, 1991).  I fixed this in the file apalike.bst (on my machine).
; The second bug is that "in press" citations are truncated to 4
; characters in the text but not in the bibliography (e.g smith & jones,
; ress).  I can fix this by hand in the .bbl file.  The last bug is that
; APA format requires that three or more authors be cited as "et al.",
; EXCEPT for the first citation.  So, for example, the first citation is
; (smith, jones, \& brown, 1991), the subsequent ones are (smith et al.,
; 1991).  The code in apalike.bst causes them to all be listed as "et
; al."  Again, I can fix this by hand, but it is a real PAIN.
; 
; So, are these bugs you have encountered?  Have they been
; fixed?  Do you even care?
; 
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From: orre@thalamus.sans.kth.se (Roland Orre)
Subject: Re: SliTeX Label problems
Reply-To: orre@nada.kth.se (Roland Orre)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 23:55:44 GMT

Sorry, this is the same as my previous post but the from address was garbled
so if you use reply then use this msg instead.

The equation labels does not work with SliTeX. The reason seems to be that
no .aux file is generated. It feels like it is the \label command that does
not work properly. I don't understand enough TeX to be able to rewrite the
label command why I instead tried the following hacks, as I in this case
only needed to be able to reference backwards.

\renewcommand{\label}[1]{
  \newlabel{#1}{{\value{equation}}{\thepage}}
}

\renewcommand{\label}[1]{
  \newlabel{#1}{{\theequation}{\thepage}}
}

In the first case SliTeX complains about missing number and fails. In the
second case SliTeX swallows it but the only number I get from later \ref
commands is the last value of \theequation. If I do an explicit 
\newlabel{eq:name}{{2}{\thepage}} in the equation, then it works.
I understand that it is something really fundamental I don't understand
with TeX, why I am lost. What do I do wrong?

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From: d3e129@pnlg.pnl.gov (Rick A Kendall)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: emTeX availability
Date: 15 Aug 92 19:41:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: oracle.1992Aug15.194133.21631
Organization: Battelle Pacific Northwest Labs, Richland, WA
Originator: d3e129@cagle.pnl.gov


Anyone know how and where emTeX can be downloaded??

Thanks in advance
Rick Kendall
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From: nsysdbj@straylight.acs.ncsu.edu (David Joyner)
Subject: Building TeX 3.14 under AIX 3.2
Summary: help i am going crazy
Organization: North Carolina State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:25:42 GMT

I am stuck in the installation process of TeX 3.14 under AIX 3.2 on
the "make formats" step.

[straylight] /source/tex_src/TeX3.14>make formats
       cd tex; TEXPOOL=.; export TEXPOOL; make formats="tex.fmt latex.fmt slite
x.fmt" fmts
       ./initex plain \\dump
This is TeX, C Version 3.14t3 (INITEX)
(/usr/local/lib/tex/inputs/plain.tex
! Undefined control sequence.
l.6 \catcode
            `\{=1 % left brace is begin-group character
?

Does anyone know what the problem could be here???  I'm new to TeX, but
I was under the impression that initex knew all the TeX primitives.

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From: katan@cgrpc.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: GhostView for MS DOS.
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:17:32 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List


Hi netters!

Is there a compiled version of GhostView that runs under MS-DOS?

If so, please let me know where can I FTP it from. Thanks.

--Kim
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From: tfb@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Tim Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Web2c and subdirectory searching
Keywords: Unix
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:13:49 GMT
Organization: Not

I would *like* to use the subdirectory searching features for i.e
TEXINPUTS that recent versions of web2c provide, so I can keep all
sorts of packages isolated & not have to recompile TeX all the time.

I tried something where basically the top directory has nothing but a
4 or 5 subdirs, one of which (for contributed stuff) has in turn
several subdirs.  

The performance is awful: 5-6 seconds to the `This is TeX' prompt on
an unloaded Sun ELC with local disk, cf some tenths of a second with
an older TeX.

Is there any way to get this to work usably?  It seems to me unlikely
that any directory configuration will work, since it basically will
have to stat every file in the tree (over 700 here) regardless of the
flatness or otherwise of it.

If there is in fact no way to get it usable, then a compromise scheme
might be to have single-level subdir searching.  This gives most of
the advantages of multi-level but keeps the performance since you only
need to stat the files in the top directory.  Lucid Emacs uses this
approach with success.

Alternatively some file could be put somewhere which TeX & METAFONT
read to get a list of directories to search for stuff.  This at least
keeps the effort of reconfiguring it small cf recompiling everything.

--tim
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From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: mode def for Epson LQ-850
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:33:30 GMT

peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes:

>Does anyone have a Metafont mode def for the Epson LQ-850 printer?

There's a mode epsonlq (:=toshiba) in the standard modes.mf
collected by Karl Berry
(available from the mail-server at shsu.edu 
or by anon FTP from ftp.cs.umb.edu .)

I've used it with an Epson LQ & it looked ok to me.

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From: dfarrow@spam.ua.oz (Duncan Farrow)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: inner / outer margins in double-sided document
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:44:57 GMT
Organization: Stats Pure & Applied Maths, Uni of Adelaide, Australia

From article <77788@ut-emx.uucp>, by evc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Edward Van Cura):
> Greetings!
> 
>    I would like to produce a document which is double-sided with
> the inner margins set at 1.0in and the outer margins set at 0.5in.
> I am using doublecolumns with eplain-1.9. 
> 

I had the same problem when typing up my thesis and the solution I used was
to redefine the \output routine thus:

\def\output{\ifodd\pageno\hoffset=0in\else\hoffset=-.5in\fi\plainoutput}

The default (in TeX) for \output is \def\output{\plainoutput}. You will 
probably have to fiddle around with the dimensions a bit to get it just right.

Duncan.
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From: gnpaulle@maytag.uwaterloo.ca (Glenn Paulley)
Subject: Re: BUG in chicago.bst
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:03:05 GMT

> fritzz@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (fritz zaucker) writes:

> I found a problem in chicago.bst:

>With the following entry in my bib file 

> @Article{dan-ea-82,
>   OPTcrossref =  "",
>   OPTkey = 	 "",
>   author = 	 "Dansgaard, W. and Clausen, H. B. and Gundestrup, N.
		  and Hammer, C. U. and Johnson, S. F. and
		  Kristinsdottir, P. M. and Reeh, N.",
>   title = 	 "A new {G}reenland deep ice core",
>   journal = 	 SC,
>   year = 	 "1982",
>   volume = 	 "218",
>   OPTnumber = 	 "",
>   pages = 	 "1273--1277",
>   OPTmonth = 	 "",
>   OPTnote = 	 "",
>   OPTannote = 	 ""
>  }

> I get this error message from BibTeX:

> Warning--you've exceeded 100, the entry-string-size, for entry dan-ea-82
> while executing--line 1541 of file chicago.bst
> *Please notify the bibstyle designer*

Sigh. Another hard-coded limitation of BibTex. The quick fix is to remove
the last two authors and replace their names with "and others". This should
make the author string short enough (so that the bibitem will total less
than 100 characters).

I'm not sure there's a robust solution to this problem. None of the other
styles I've ever looked at (including the APA ones) check for string
sizes.

I'd be pleased to entertain possible (robust) solutions from the net.


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From: jon@radel.com (Jon Radel)
Subject: Re: DVI to EPSON driver?
Organization: Stanford Telecom, SED, Reston
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 21:07:51 GMT

In article <adrianw.713150322@kay> adrianw@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Adrian Whichello) writes:
>When I run dvieps, (I got it from science.utah.edu in /pub/tex/dvi)
>I continually get error meassages of the following sort: (this is only one of them)

I seriously suggest that people printing to dot-matrix printers from MS-DOS
or OS/2 look seriously at the dvi driver that comes with emTeX.

--Jon Radel
jon@radel.com

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From: db3l@ans.net (David Bolen)
Subject: Grouping text
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:12:40 GMT
Organization: Advanced Network & Services, Inc. - Elmsford, NY

I've recently begun using TeX as my primary formatter after using Scribe
extensively in college (I went to CMU so it was the de facto choice :-)), and
Script with Bookmaster for the past few years (at IBM).  In general, it's
taken a bit of reorientation, but TeX looks very nice.  I've been able to get
it to do everything I want, with the exception of one major (at least to my
mind) problem to which I can't seem to find a good solution.

In both Scribe and Script (and for that matter WordPerfect that I have to use
occasionally at the office) there was the notion of "grouping" a selection of
text such that it would not get split across a page boundary.  I tend to use
this in cases where I don't want an actual figure, but want to make sure that
certain text stays together, be it an inline textual figure, or making sure
that an item title stays with it's description, or just that several points in
a list aren't fragmented by a page boundary.

All I've been able to find in TeX is a good deal of flexibility in describing
valid points for making a page break, but that's pretty much the opposite of
what I want.  I want to describe what to keep together, rather than what not
to keep together.  I almost thought I had what I want with \filbreak, but
found that once I started using it to delineate a section of text, I was
pretty much forced to use it throughout my document, which is unwieldy.

Does anyone know how I might accomplish groups?  I can't believe that I'm the
only person that likes to use the concept of grouping in a document, as
opposed to placing markers to allow breaks, so I figure the problem must have
been solved before.  Is this something that can be done as an intrinsic part
of TeX or do I need an additional package?

I might mention that I'm mostly using LaTeX (I tend to like it better than
plain TeX - probably my Scribe background), if that makes any difference.

Any help would be appreciated.

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From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis)
Subject: mode def for Epson LQ-850
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:09:02 GMT

Does anyone have a Metafont mode def for the Epson LQ-850 printer?
Failing that, does anyone have a collection of the appropriate pk
files?

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: bruno@cerberus.csd.uwm.edu (Bruno Wolff III)
Subject: Re: "risky" PD software
Originator: bruno@cerberus.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: bruno@cerberus.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:03:36 GMT

From article <7796821@MVB.SAIC.COM>, by "Phillip E. Parker" <PPARKER@TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU>:
> I don't understand: how is running PD software risky if the user has access
> to files he is not supposed to show to anyone? Specifically, why is it more
> risky than running Wordperfect etc.?
> 
Running any software is risky. However I feel that commerical software
companies are less likely to produce code that has trojan horse code in it.
Also commerical software is normally obtained through a more secure method
than PD software is. A shrink wrapped disk or a tape is less likely to have
been tampered with than a copy of a PD program obtained from a bulletin board.
I doubt there is anything funny about the copy of TeX at U of Washington. A
lot of people have gotten a copy from there and if there were problems with it,
something would have been posted about it by now.
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