From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:34:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.081533.24040@wixer.cactus.org>, raistlin@wixer.cactus.org (Eli Boaz) writes:
>In article <5829@ucru2.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul30.191741.14333@husc3.harvard.edu> rivera@scws9.harvard.edu  
>>(Francisco Rivera) writes:
>>> they may not be in communication range for some reason.  Well, if their
>>> warp system were to fail and they would not be able to repair it, they
>>> would be forced to return on impluse power.  Since impulse power does not
>>> warp space and follows normal Einsteinian principles, since they would
>>> be going near the speed of light, they would not age as fast as we would
>>
>>What you say is true, according to Einstein.  And has been proven true
>>even on Earth, placing two different clocks on two different airplanes
>>going different speeds, etc.  (read it if your interested).  However,
>>the Star Trek show does not take this into account.  If they did, then
>>time would be so distorted for everybody.  Traveling at near light speed
>>for even an hour slows down the relative clock by 60 years.  And the 
>>Enterprise, A-D does a tremendous amount of traveling at warp 6, 7, etc.
>>Thus, at speeds well over light, even a minute would last several years
>>on Earth.  Thus, Star Trek can not possibly take into account the
>>realtivity of time.  And therefore, your theory, though correct
>>technically (although only with our knowledge) is incorrect as the show
>>is concerned.
>
>Well, actually, it's my belief that they never exceed the speed of
>light...  Okay (here comes rationalization...) a) the drive is called
>_warp_ drive.  That implies that they are `warping' something, in this
>case, the space-time continuum.  What i think they are doing is
>warping space, and then proceeding to move at normal speeds...
>(if anyone wants me to post a diagram then reply!  I'm posting this
>under the assumption that everyone here can think... =) )
>

and your right... relative to the space inside the warp field they are
going at sub light speed so theoreticly any ship INSIDE the field would
would 'age' at a normal rate along with the e's crew. however, outside the
warp field (i.e. the rest of the universe) the people would age at a faster
rate. if you think of the warp field as an object (like a bubble) than you
can see how everything inside the bubble would age at a normal rate relative
to each other. to the rest of the univers, all we see is the bubble, anything
inside that bubble (ships 'warp space` tennis shoes) is obviously moving as
fast as the bubble relative to the rest of the universe. so from that we conclude
that if the bubble is moving at 100c relative to the universe, then anything
inside the bubble is moving at 100c relative to the universe. so the occupants
of anything inside the bubble will age slower.

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