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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: THE BUFFALO BILLS READY TO SQUISH THE FISH!! :)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 14:55:12 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan11.040155.13427@ncsu.edu> rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN) writes:
>
>
>
>  It was clearly evident that the same luck that occured against the first
>  Bills-Dolphins game reared its' ugly head against the Chargers. It's a 
>  one-game deal, and it only occurs once in a blue moon. You can thank
>  Humphries' bad pass selection for your win... shutout or not. Thurman
>  Thomas is still the man, and the Bills are pumped up and ready!!!
>  No one slides in to get the AFC East and comes out alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow... talk about over-hyped...  Chill...  "one-game deal???"  Well, the
Fins man-handled the Bills in Buffalo, and then did the same for the 1st
half in Miami.  The Bills responded with a great comeback and won the game,
but only by 6 points..  I don't think that's all that convincing.  Miami
beat the Chargers 31-0...  Though 21 pts came thanx to great field position
after the turnovers, Miami still had to put the ball in the endzone (as opposed
to FG) against one of the NFL's premier defenses.  

11-5, sliding in???  The way I look at it, Miami let Buffalo "slide" back
into the lead for a few games, just to get them overconfident, and then
took it back when it mattered.  
>  
>
>  It's time for Buffalo to brush the Fish aside, and win the Super Bowl!! :)
>

Well, they have had 2 tries, and haven't done so well...  Time for some new
blood, an organization that knows what it is like to win the Big One...

Miami vs. Dallas this time around....
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From: chf0@bunny.gte.com (Curt Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: No Buffal-O in Miami
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:41:03 GMT
Reply-To: chf0@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

In article <1993Jan12.173340.6095@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi) writes:
|> Although the Dolphins scored 31 pts vs. the Chargers, their offense left a 
|> lot to be desired.  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oh, Immy, you slay me, you really DO!  

In their last game, the Dolphins offense scored 31 points - they
limited the team with the most sacks in the AFC to NONE - they ran for
157 yards (without their starting running back) against the team that
was tied with Buffalo as #1 against the run in the NFL - Marino passed
for 3 TDs - Aaron Craver had a 25 yard TD run against this powerful
defense AND they kept the ball for over 37 minutes of the game.

I can't think of one more thing that the Dolphins' Offense could have
done right.

|> Tony Paige will be the key to the game.  Miami needs him to pick up the
|> now almost all the time blitzing Buffalo D.

Wrong, Immy.  The key to this game will be mistakes - primarily
turnovers.  Both the previous meetings this year were decided by
turnovers.  In the first game, Miami got 5 turnovers and won easily.
In the second game, Buffalo got the turnovers and they won.

This Sunday, the team that makes the fewest mistakes will win the game
- it's that simple.

Because the truth of the matter is that these teams are about as
evenly matched as two teams can be.  Both have high power offenses and
aggressive, but inconsistent defenses.  

This is going to be one *hell* of a game for both teams.

Curt

Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
'92 Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions





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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: 49ers/Cowboys at Last!
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:23:08 GMT

It looks like a busy week ahead for 49er/Cowboys fans.  Unlike
the 49er/Redskins game, where little was posted, it looks like
there will be a lot of posting.

Dallas seems to have two advantages over the 49ers:  overall
team speed and an excellent defense. (Read this as, Cowboys
overall faster than 49ers, Cowboys defense better than 49er
defense.)

The Stick field is going to be REAL, REAL bad on Sunday.  There
is another big storm predicted for tomorrow, with rains predicted
for most of the week.  This will slow down the Cowboys (because
they are quicker) more than the 49ers.

The Dallas defense is going against the best offense in the NFL.
The 49ers have blown away other #1 defenses in the past.  Likewise,
there have been some #1 defenses that have shut down the 49ers.
Only by playing the game will the answers appear.

The 49ers COULD NOT run sweeps against the Redskins because of the
field.  Almost all of Waters' runs were straight up the gut.  The
field will be worse next Sunday (and 49er fans know that the 49er
sweep is an often run play - did you see it during the game?).  How
will Dallas do against a good run defense and a lousy field, where
it will be hard to run wide?  The game will tell us.

Both the Redskins and 49ers had problems holding onto the muddy
ball (in addition to Young's 3, there was a fumble by Jones in
the endzone and a fumbled kickoff return).  Will the 49ers do
any better?  Will the Cowboys?  This Cowboys team has NEVER played
on a field as bad as they will see next week.

This is almost the reverse of the 1982 NFC Championship game.  Then,
the 49ers were newcommers and the Cowboys the yardstick of the NFC.
Now, the 49ers are the yardstick and the Cowboys (or the members of
this Cowboys team) are the newcommers.

My feeling is that this game will be decided either by : turnover/big
play by one team, or by the last drive.  The 49ers have a lot of
pride and poise - you will not see them give up like some of the
other playoff teams this year.  (Wouldn't you like to see the game
49ers 24, Cowboys 20, with Aikman and the Cowboys with the ball
with 5 minutes left on the clock and the ball on their own 11?)

Before you judge the 49ers based on the Redskins game remember
two things:  the Cowboys didn't play on that muddy field and
the Cowboys didn't beat the Redskins the last time they played.
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: NFL Merchandise
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:52:19 GMT

This is for all whacko NFL fans who can not get enough NFL
merchandise with their teams' logo on it.  (Disclaimer - I
do not work for any of these companies and the NFL does not
pay me (rats!) for anything that I do or don't do.)

Top Teams in Sales (according to the SF Chronicle (1/6/92 and
NFL Properties):

1) L. A. Raiders
2) Dallas Cowboys
3) Washington Redskins
4) Chicago Bears
5) San Francisco 49ers

(No other teams listed in article.)

You can contact NFL properties on (212) 838-0660.  No 800 number
was given.

If you are a 49er fan, you can call (800) 359-4937 for a catalog.
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From: dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown)
Subject: Re: Dolphins/Bills Tickets
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:12:40 GMT

In article <ron_frank.lds.loral.com-110193134757@sps156.lds.loral.com> ron_frank.lds.loral.com (Ron Frank) writes:
>Does anyone have information on how I can get two tickets to the AFC
>Championship Game?  I know it is sold out!

>GO FISH !!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE!!!  We must get to this game.  If there are tix available, could
you please let us know?  Please e-mail ASAP, as I don't get to read
this group that often.

As the man said, 'GO FISH !!!!!'


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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Chargers dominate
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:11:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?



KANSAS CITY 0  CHARGERS 17

Well.. I guess everybody and anybody who was interested saw this game. For
SD fans, this was sweet. Finally, SD gets some respect. I still think that 
the Chargers are an year away from being a legit Super Bowl contender. The 
players, though, seem to think otherwise.

Butts has been playing all season hampered with a bruised knee. His 
overall numbers have not been as good as in pervious seasons, but SD has
had other RBs pick up the slack. 

The play that exemplified the SD play was the way they went after the loose
ball after Miller had it stripped in the 4th Q. Harmon made two headlong
dives for the ball, and recovered it the second time. 

Ross said yesterday that Bernstine's ankle sprain was not as bad as it 
seemed on Saturday. I am not too worried about that. SD has good backups.
I thought Bienemy played the best game he has ever played for the Chargers.

Another player who had a great game was Left Guard Eric Moten (for whom 
they gave up last year's #1 draft pick). His blocking on running plays 
was sensational. He was 3 yds downfield blocking the MLB on Butts' TD run.

Next week in Miami. If SD plays loose, they have got a shot. Miami was a 
3 pt favorite in Las Vegas and was bet down to 2.5 pts. I guess the 
bettors are in it for the ride. SD has covered the line as a favorite or
an underdog 13 straight games, losing the one game by 2 pts in the 
final minute in KC. The record is 14 games by the 1985 Patriots, whose
streak ended in the Super Bowl.

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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Whose fans are most frustrated?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:53:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.171044.9616@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad) writes:
>> It's also
>>frustrating to attend a Bucs home game and be in the minority.  Go to a 
>>sporting goods store in central Florida and you can find merchandise for
>>just about any team except the Bucs.  How many of you are look upon as
>>a moron by family, friends and co-workers because you support the home
>>team?  
>
>Are you sure it's because you support the home team?  Just kidding.  I can
>imagine how frustrating it is to be in a minority in your own stadium.
>Worse, you give up the 3 points that's supposed to be the advantage of playing
>a home game.  
>
>The last Redskin game I attended was in Phoenix.  We may not have been
>a majority, but Redskin fans were a major presence in that game.
>I see we're playing Tampa next season, so be prepared for a maroon invasion,
>especially if the game is at the time of year when a trip to Florida is
>especially inviting.

Well, with a good draft and some involvment in the free agent market,  I
hope that Coach Wyche can transform us into as inhospitible a host as is
humanly possible. 
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Draft stuff
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:07:55 GMT

In article <1iid7vINNqpm@hpscit.sc.hp.com> buds@hpubvwa.nsr.hp.com (Bud Sloan) writes:
>Leo James (lej@pdn.paradyne.com) wrote:
>
>: After the total domination of the 'Canes in the Sugar Bowl (but
>: admittedly, before the combine workouts) does the net feel that
>: there is a chance that either  Eric Curry or John Copeland will
>: be available at the 6th overall pick  (Tampa Bay's)?   I assume 
>: that Marvin Jones will be long gone by then.
>
>
>                                                      I understand
>the Pats are probably going for defense

Is that Jones, Curry, or Coleman.
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From: gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NINERS WIN a THRILLER (IMHO)
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:45:47 GMT
Organization: Gizmonic Institute - Home of the "Big G Burger"

<29710140@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen) writes:
>>(Gordon Storga) /  4:34 pm  Jan  9, 1993 /
>><1993Jan10.000759.20838@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>>>FINAL SCORE:  Niners 20   Redskins  13
>>>A game that had eight turnovers, 4 each, but the last TO
>>>by the SKINS cost them the game IMHO. Great D on both
>>>sides and credit to the Niners D for coming through!
>
>>??  What game were you watching?
>
>What's so wrong with John's analysis?  No question about the Niners D -
>after scoring 24 points on a good Minnesota defense, the 'Skins only TD
>against the 'Niners came on a 15 yard drive.  More importantly - and in
>dramatic contrast to Houston and New Orleans - the S. F. defense hung
>tough and made the big plays in the 4th quarter when momentum was
>shifting toward Washington.

They gave up 323 yards to a team everyone said shouldn't even be in the
playoffs.  Not a "great" defensive performance.  Not horrible by any
stretch of the imagination, but not a "great" effort.  If Gloria had said
something like "they bent but didn't break", or "they came through when
they needed it" then fine.  But he said they played great.

>The 'Skins TO might not have "cost them the game", but it came on a
>drive that would have given them a go-ahead TD in the 4th quarter so
>that's not really off the mark.

And the 9er defense had nothing to do with that fumble.  They didn't "come
through", the Washington offense choked.


Gordon
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From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Still say Montana shouldn't replace Humpheries in SD?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 10:23:34 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <1993Jan11.171656.19089@pony.Ingres.COM> daveb@lotus (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418) writes:
>Earlier I nominated SD as a team that could use Montana's services
>next year.  This was pooh-poohed by those saying Humperies was it for SD.
>
>The evidence is in.  This Stan is not The Man.  

Geezuz.  And I though Redskin fans were bad about getting on quarterbacks
over one game.

Stan has one game and already people are calling for his head.

>If I were the SD management, I'd look and see a passing game that
>can't work w/o an established run, making it impossible to mount any
>kind of comeback, or get involved in a shootout.  I'd see a 5th year
>QB who has been injured and can't carry the team, and a mediocre at
>best backup.  Still looks like the weak spot in the team to me.

If I were SD management, I'd ignore every word you just said, let
Humphries go into camp as the esignated starter, let the others work to
dislodge him, and let the guy build his confidence.  He got really
screwed over by the Reskins, in that they never really gave the guy a
legitimate chance.  If Ryp looks in camp like he did this season, they
sure as hell better give Conklin a *real* hard look.

SD fans - you got the better end of the Humphries deal.  Don't bitch and
moan because he had a bad day with diddly for protection.

>Maybe Humperies can come around.  He might learn a lot watching Joe
>direct the offense for a while.  Heck, it worked for Steve Young.

Or he might lose any and all confidence by being put back into a backup
role after having a pretty damn good season (better than Rypien...)

Steve Mansfield                   Junior AlterNet Engineer 
smm@uunet.uu.net                  uunet!smm
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From: spork@camelot.bradley.edu (Richard Izzo)
Subject: Re: Chiefs Kickers
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date:  5 Jan 93 17:20:02 GMT

In <1993Jan4.144039.3523@cfmu.eurocontrol.be> don@cfmu.eurocontrol.be (Don Hughes) writes:

>I am a long-time KC Chiefs fan who has lived through many ups and downs
>over the years since Super Bowl IV (this year was no exception). There
>is one area, however, where the Chiefs have been remarkably consistent.
>Whereas most NFL teams change placekickers faster than Eastern Europe
>changes its borders, to my knowledge the Chiefs have had just two in a
>period of over 20 years!

Actually, If I remember correctly, Stenerud joined the Chiefs in 1967
(can someone back me up or correct me?), so it's actually been 25 years,
and if Lowery remains consistent, he could possibly stretch it out to
30 years!

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From: daveb@Ingres.COM (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418)
Subject: Still say Montana shouldn't replace Humpheries in SD?
Originator: daveb@lotus
Reply-To: daveb@lotus (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418)
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:16:56 GMT

Earlier I nominated SD as a team that could use Montana's services
next year.  This was pooh-poohed by those saying Humperies was it for SD.

The evidence is in.  This Stan is not The Man.  

If I were the SD management, I'd look and see a passing game that
can't work w/o an established run, making it impossible to mount any
kind of comeback, or get involved in a shootout.  I'd see a 5th year
QB who has been injured and can't carry the team, and a mediocre at
best backup.  Still looks like the weak spot in the team to me.

Maybe Humperies can come around.  He might learn a lot watching Joe
direct the offense for a while.  Heck, it worked for Steve Young.

-dB
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From: steve.leu@odybbs.gvl.oh.us (Steve Leu) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: SB MATCHUP PREDICTION
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:09:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Odyssey BBS - Garrettsville, OH - 216-527-2186
Reply-To: steve.leu@odybbs.gvl.oh.us (Steve Leu) 

Here's who I WANT to goto the Super Bowl:

                Buffalo vs. Dallas

but my gut reaction is...

                Miami vs. San Francisco

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From: punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi)
Subject: Re: SF Bashing
Keywords: SF, Philadelphia, Dallas ...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 20:03:40 GMT


TIM,
        SUCH VENOM YOU SPOUT!  SEEMS LIKE THE TRUTH HURTS, HUH?

Sanjeev


In article <1ico5gINN9ii@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>In article <1icm7jINN8nt@spim.mti.sgi.com> anjaneya@m20_anjaneya.mti.sgi.com (Anjaneya Thakar) writes:
> 
> >What is with these guys in Philadelphia and Dallas anyway? Once in the last
> >ten years their teams have a reasonable record and instead of enjoying the
> >good times they are spending all their steam trying to convince everyone why
> >the 49ers are not good!!!!!
>
> >For this one single reason I hope that the 49ers (or the 'Skins) kick thier
> >butts back to the very cellar they crawled out of! 
>
>I didn't hear anyone ask for your opinion. 
>
> >A majority of commentrators, sports editors, coaches, players - and not just
> >the 49er fans - are saying that this is the team to beat. They can't all be
> >wrong. 49ers are GOOD!
>
> >No matter how you guys try to confuse issues - NFC East is strong, your teams
> >had injuries, 49ers had an easy schedule (NOT!!), Candlestick is not a good
> >place to play football etc. etc. - the bottom line is that the 49ers have a
> >solid team and a solid overall organization (maybe only the 'Skins have any
> >-thing similar). 
>
>Candlestick IS NOT a good place tp play, a stupid city that builds a 
>stadium three feet below sea level. It doesn't rain there for two years
>yet, you always see mud flying up in the air when someone does a running
>play, the stadium is a dump. Plus most GOOD teams have a city that
>will build them their own arena and they dont have to share it with a 
>bunch of over payed stickball players.
>
>>49ers will  remain a strong contender for, at least, another 4-5 years and
>>you guys will have to win here to get to the Super Bowl!!! So instead of bad-
>>mouthing the 49ers go figure how you can beat them and, then, you may have
>>earned the right to gloat.
>
>Last time I looked the 9ers didn't even make the play-offs last season
>so after you WIN a game this year then you can talk. Besides if the 
>Redskins beat you Sat the Superbowl will go through Dallas, Philly or Wash.
>
> >What a goddamned bunch of cry-babies!!!!!!
> >
> >-anjaneya
> >
>
>I put this guy up for
>JERK OF THE YEAR !!!!!
>tim
From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Re: Greatest Moment (was: BILLS BILLS BILLS BILLS!!! YEEEEEEEAAAAAA!!!!!)
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:54:35 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <29710135@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen) writes:
>>(Dan Welch) / 11:14 am  Jan  5, 1993 /
>>I think it's great how many different teams had their best moments in big
>>games against the Cowboys.  The Cowboys were always there, standing in the
>>way, and made it through as often as not.  Well, the good old days are
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Wrong.  The Cowboys "made it through" only twice; their SB/playoff
>failures are far more numerous.  Until their first SB win in '72, their
>reputation was "couldn't win the big one".  The resentment toward the
>Cowboys was engendered not because of their success, but because of the
>sickening media overhype when there were clearly superior teams e. g.
>Steelers in the '70s.

The Steelers beat the Cowboys in two Super Bowls by a grand total of 8 points. 
That means that one play here or there in either game and the Cowboys are the 
"Team of the 70's" and the Steelers are 2-2 in the big dance. This is what 
you call "clearly superior?" 

By the way... if you would remove your head from your ass you would also be 
able to see that the Cowboys have a winning record in the playoffs. Meaning 
that their failures are considerably less "numerous" than their successes. 

If winning the Super Bowl is your only criteria for success then name me a 
team which has not failed "more often than not?" 

-- 
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