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From: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Subject: Re: Mouse drivers: mouse.com mouse.sys mouse.drv
Originator: dspascha@c00015-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: mouse drivers
Reply-To: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:10:13 GMT


In article <1992Sep02.020652.14983@microsoft.com>, blakeco@microsoft.com (Blake Coverett) writes:
|> Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
|> Path: taco!rock!stanford.edu!ames!haven.umd.edu!uunet!microsoft!hexnut!blakeco
|> From: blakeco@microsoft.com (Blake Coverett)
|> Subject: Re: Mouse drivers: mouse.com mouse.sys mouse.drv
|> Message-ID: <1992Sep02.020652.14983@microsoft.com>
|> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:06:52 GMT+5:00
|> Organization: Microsoft Canada Inc.
|> References: <1992Sep1.175930.9276@pony.Ingres.COM>
|> Keywords: mouse drivers
|> Lines: 25
|> 
|> In article <1992Sep1.175930.9276@pony.Ingres.COM> jabbate@Ingres.COM (Joe M. Abbate) writes:
|> >one vs. the other.  With Windows 3.1, there's mouse.drv and mouse.com
|> >(version 8.20).  If I assume correctly, the .drv is used by Windows
|> >and .com is for DOS use.  Can someone confirm this and/or point me to
|> >anywhere in the documentation where the differences are explained?
|> 
|> This is correct.  mouse.com is the driver for DOS and mouse.drv is the Windows
|> driver.
|> 
|> I answered this mostly because it gives a perfect example of Windows
|> virtualization.  Both of these mouse drivers are designed to talk directly
|> to the mouse hardware.  In fact they both do, mouse.com talks directly
|> to the hardware if Windows isn't running or if a DOS app is active in
|> standard mode, mouse.drv talks directly to the hardware if a Win app
|> is active in standard mode.
|> 
|> In enhanced mode both drivers continue to think they are talking to the 
|> hardware but in fact they are being virtualized by *vmd (the virtual mouse
|> driver built into win386.exe)
|> 
|> -Blake (Apologizes for the sermon, Tomer I hope you are reading this)
|> Now was that a sneaky followup to the thread that won't die or what?
|> -- 
|> #include <std/disclaimer.h>                       blakeco@microsoft.com
|> Mail Flames, Post Apologies.                      ...!uunet!microsoft!blakeco
|> 

Hi.  So what is MOUSE.SYS for?

Also, while we're on the subject of mice, why is it that the INT 33h call to
reset the mouse (function 0) takes so long?  Certain programs (like old
versions of Turbo Debugger and some programs that were written with True
BASIC) like to call this function constantly, and it really slows things down.
I wrote a program on my computer to selectively disable the mouse driver, but
still I wonder why it's so time-consuming in the first place to reset the
mouse...

Tschuess,
David Paschal
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: MS Windows T-Shirts, mugs, etc. Where?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:58:13 GMT

karlth@rhi.hi.is (Karl Thoroddsen) writes:
>Can anyone supply me with an address of a post-firm that sells MS-Windows
>propaganda stuff?

PC Magazine.  Whoops, just noticed the title.  No, they don't sell
that.  You could get some nice articles for him, though.

>PS.	It's not intended for me personally, but as a joke gift for a 
>	Mac-fanatic friend of mine.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs)
Subject: Out of Memory ??
Reply-To: dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:51:04 GMT



I'm experiencing the following problem when I shell out of Windows to DOS:

I can approximately 10-15 DOS commands and then the characters stop echoing
to the terminal.  The system in fact still responds to the commands I'm
typing, I just can't see what I'm typing.  Eventually, the system hangs,
and I have to give the three-finger salute to abort.

Any ideas what's causing this?  Am I actually running out of memory?

This is configuration:

486/33 Mhz
4MG memory
permanent swap drive
Stacker running
32-bit fast disk enabled

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: jegm@cody.esd.sgi.com (Jim Morris)
Subject: What is Multimedia extension for windows?
Reply-To: jegm@esd.sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:42:12 GMT

Can someone explain to me what the Multimedia Extension for windows is.
What extra apps does it include?
Where can I get it? do I need it? How much does it cost?

Thanks

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From: callaci@bcserv.wustl.edu (Callaci (Tom))
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Help! (second plea):use of Fax/modem w/Win3.1enh
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:11:27 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu
Summary: I need help using Fremont's Fax96 soft/hardware w/Win3.1 enh mode
Keywords: windows, fax

     I am running win3.1 on a 386 and I am having difficulties with the
software and hardware for my fax board, which is a Fremont Fax96 with Frecom 
fax96 and "One-Liner" software..  The first problem occurs every time the phone

rings. The TSR portion of the software notifies me that the phone is ringging 
and begins to monitor the call.  Windows locks up at this point and all key 
strokes are sent to a buffer and not printed or carried out until the phone
call is over.  I would like to be able to cancel the telephone monitoring as
the software is designed to allow.  My keystrokes need to be sent to the TSR
program, but how?
     The second problem is using the board with win3.1 in the enhanced mode.
The manufacturer claims WIN3.0 enh does not allow high speed  communication
with the board.  The board is configured on I/O port 280, IRQ interrupt 5, as I
understand it.  The software detects that win is in enhanced mode and does not
allow me to send a fax.  How can I override this?  Does win3.1 support the
needed communication processes?  Thank you for your help.  Please send
responses to callaci@bcserv.wustl.edu.  I will post a summary of replies.


Tom
From: tguez@jade.tufts.edu (Name)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows == OS
Date: 31 Aug 92 03:54:17 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

>   N > Execuse me!!!!  Windows WILL NOT touch your malloc memory blocks,
>   N > and it will sort of juggle with your memory only with near pointers and
>   N > that is also only because you got the same DS value; that is it does
>   N > not play with your memory blocks in relation to your malloc calls, it
>   N > will move your WHOLE program by changing the base address.  Compile
>   N > in the compact or huge models where everything is far and windows will
>   N > die a horrible death if it tried to play with it.
>   N > 
>   You are definitly wrong. 
> Don't mix it up. You description is only correct for static data in the apps 
>default data segment(s) and data allocated with the default malloc (identica
>lly 
> with 
> LocalAlloc-LocalLock) in the Local Heap (which is inside the default data 
> segment(s)).
Yes, this is what I ment.  Windows will move the segments not my
blocks. 

> Even this problem is better managed with Win 3.1 then with 3.0 (no 
>   more sandbank effekt with such memory).
>   Memory
>  allocated with GlobalAlloc-Global lock (also far pointers) is
>  perfectly 
>   juggled by windows.
>   Simply write an app which uses such call, start heapwalker and make some
>
>   intensive things and you will see your memory blocks juggling around.
>   And to say it again. Is not aspect of the system design, that malloc of th
>   C-Library is translated to LOCALAlloc-LOCALLock, that a decision of the 
>   compiler factorer. You can make simply a new malloc which works in
>   t
The compiler is involved and I explained the consquences in a previous
post to this one (where you commented your #define statment, I think).
So there is no need for me to repeat.
>   he Global 
>   Heap (with real juggling and so on).
>
>   Martin
From: v075hn54@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Gary G Gassman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Trashcan
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:51:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Here's an easy one for someone (I hope).
I downloaded TRASHCAN and installed it but I can't figure out how
it works. If I double-click on it I get the box: TRASHCAN is 
already running. There is no actual documentation with it.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
g.g.                        E-Mail Please
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: TCPIP DLLs for Windows: a summary (Correction)
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:33:17 GMT

> From schoen@tsfsrv.mitre.org
>>Yes, Novell's LAN Workplace for DOS provides a TCP/IP stack, a Windows DLL
>>that you can use for your applications, and several other goodies; however,
>>you need to be on a LAN running Novell Netware.  If that's not a problem,
>>we`ve been using this product to develop applications for Windows.  They 
>>provide a DLL called WLIBSOCK that I believe is conformant to the winsock
>>protocol.

Two corrections to this one:

	1) You don't need to be on a LAN running Novell Netware,
	   although if you are running a LAN that isn't NOVELL
	   which must be run concurrently, you will probably
	   have to juggle a variety of Clarkson, NDIS and ODI
	   drivers with some driver that converts one to the other.
	   (Basically you are likely to need to get NDIS and ODI
	   running at the same time)

	2) WLIBSOCK.DLL isn't Windows Sockets conforming, however all
	   the entry points have a fairly logical behaviour which
	   is implied by their names.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Speeding up Windows
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:32:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.212201.1@vax1.umkc.edu> edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu writes:

>	Well, now I'm confused. I've heard "buy more mem" and also as Mario
>pointed out, "Get a better video card like Diamond Stealth or Orchid".
>I have a 486/33. Now I was under the impression that adding another 4 meg
>would have a much greater impact on (admitedly an already fast windows) than
>adding a new card. 

I'd think that its what you are doing. If you want to run lots 
of huge apps then you should get more RAM. If you want a speedup 
in screen handling get the video card.







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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: ** NORTON'S DESKTOP FOR WINDOWS!! **
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:28:21 GMT

In <1992Aug21.065034.26236@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> CSC9017984R@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (M.C. Freddy!!) writes:


>               **    NORTON'S DESKTOP FOR WINDOWS !!!    **
>                               version 1.0

>                               Brand new !!
>                                Unused !!
>                           Still in Plastic !!

>                        Won at PC-Show last week !!

>                               $150.00 !!

>                          Or make me an offer !!

Let me get this straight.  You want $150 for an old version of Norton
Desktop for Windows that could be bought for less than that when it
was new?


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From: vscarafi@eccdb1.pms.ford.com (Vincent F. Scarafino)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Password protection
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:56:28 GMT
Organization: Ford Motor Co.
Originator: news@pms001

mlowery@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (Mike Lowery) writes:
> 
> Does anyone out there know of a method for password protecting
> Windows 3.1?  I know about the password for the screen savers,
> but what I want is one for the whole system.
> 
> By the way, I was shocked to learn that the easiest way to 
> defeat the screen saver's password protection was to re-boot,
> re-start Windows, and simply reset the password in the Control
> panel.  Some security.
> 
> ----Mike
> 
> 
Afterdark has a program AD_WRAP that password protects DOS.  I have it as
the very first line in my autoexec.bat file.  There is a theoretical
window-of-vulnerability boot at time when control is turned over to your
autoexec.bat file and before this program is invoked.  I don't know
enough of the details on how Control-C works at boot time to determine
how easy it would be to circumvent.  Of course, this assumes that your
floppy drive is disabled, otherwise anyone with a floppy containing
the DOS SYS could boot the system from the floppy and change anything
they wanted to.

Vince
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: jim@sun0.elon.edu (Jim Murphy)
Subject: GIFs with WIN3.1?
Organization: Elon College, Elon College North Carolina
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:13:46 GMT

Need PD gif Viewer that will operate under WINDOWS 3.1...
Thanx....Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth)
Subject: Re: Speeding up Windows... again...
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 15:59:13 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <timvih.1.715323487@polaris.utu.fi> timvih@polaris.utu.fi (Timo Vihersaari) writes:
>makes win to slow down. And if you have enough memory, you may use a ram
>disk and load some parts of windows there.


Almost true.  What you should do is set the TEMP environment variable (and
tmp, for some other programs) to a subdirectory on the RAM disk.  The reason
for this is some programs (COREL DRAW, Windows Print manager, etc.) create
and play around with temporary files that slow down the system if written
and read at 11-30 ms instead of read and written at 50-100 microsecs.  And
you use a subdirectory on the disk because the root directory on any disk
is only capable of holding a small number of files compared to subs.


If you run superstore, stacker, et al. then use that program on RAM disk
to make more room or to use a smaller disk for the same capacity.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ethan Evan Prater)
Subject: What is WinQVT?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 11:12:39 EDT

This must seem painfully naive, but what is WinQVT? I see many
references to it on the net, but I have no clue what it is.
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From: Monroe.Thomas@ttlg.UUCP (Monroe Thomas)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows == OS     2/
Date: 27 Aug 92  16:44:12 mst

>>> Continued from previous message

Since DOS is not re-entrant, you have to play tricks with memory
addresses to make DOS think its the only thing running.  YOu can't
multitask any other way than preemptively, since DOS doesn't know when
to give up its time slice.

Windows programs, up until now, have been based on another paradigm of
mulktitasking, which has proven to be not as good as pre-emptive.
However, each Windows app is its own separate entity, with its own
separate stack and heap.

As far as your other comments in another post concerning Dynamic
Linking.  This has nothing to do with DOS overlays, as you suggested,
and again, this comment shows that your knowledge about Windows and
what it does are lacking.  Dynamic linking means that you don't have
to bind in the executable code in the actual executable itself.  You
can make reference to it in another file, and when you call that
function, Windows will use the code in the other file.  This "other
function" has a separate code segment than the caller, and also a
different data segment, although it will share the caller's stack
(necessary, since the DLL may be called by several different callers;
this way the DLL has a separate stack for each different application
that it is a part of).

This brings me to your comments about the Windows stack, and how you
believe that all windows apps stacks are just part of the main Windows
"stack".  Again, this is wrong.  Each Windows app has its own
physically separate stack, in a different segment than any stack that
the Windows kernel might use.  If the opposite were true, as you
suggest, then it would be easy for applications to overwrite the
"main" stack and it would be awfully inefficient to monitor this kind
of activity to make sure you didn't violate another applications part
of the stack.  In fact, Windows does trap most illegal writes to parts
of memory that don't belong to a particular process, but it does this
by monitoring the segment selector of any pointer that you have.
Also, think carefully about the structure of memory that Windows uses,
and the maximum size of a segment in Windows: 64K.  If all
applications were to share the same stack then it would be very easy
to exceed the 64K limit very quickly.  In fact, each application's
individual stack can grow to be as large as 64K (theoretically), but
no larger.

Which brings me to your point in another post about WinMain.
WinMain's parameters are NOT on the same stack as any "main"
application stack (which doesn't exist).  Rather, there is the use of
"instance thunks" which Windows uses to place the parameters on the
application's stack.

You have done a nice job of theorizing about some of the concepts, but
frankly, you are wrong in a lot of your assumptions about what the
functional specs for Windows are.  Again, I point you to the Windows
Resource Kit manual if you wish to gain a true understanding of what's
going on.

-Monroe

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From: stefan@olson.acme.gen.nz (Stefan Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: SCREEN SAVER w. PASSWORD & SAVER NOW
Keywords: screen saver
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:47:26 GMT

In <kaustell.49@viikki.Helsinki.FI> kaustell@viikki.Helsinki.FI (KIM OLAVI KAUSTELL (MATEK)) writes:
>Is there a way to have the built in screen saver to act immediatly upon some 
>event (that is not after the default idle time)?

My screen saver, Resta 2.1a (soon to be 2.2) has a saver now corner, as
well as the password protection you are looking for.  It is available
from ftp.cica.indiana.edu as pub/win3/desktop/resta21a.zip.

What is more, Resta is free!!!

Please mail me if you want more information, or you don't have
FTP access...

...Stefan

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From: jdg00@ccc.amdahl.com (Josh Grosse)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: 90C20 Chipset (Re: Why no PARADISE video drivers?)
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:06:35 GMT
Reply-To: jdg00@amail.amdahl.com (Josh Grosse)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Many have talked about Western Digital's BBS.  I tried to use their
BBS to obtain Win3.1 drivers for the 90C20 (90C20_22.EXE) several times,
each time the transfer got part way, then failed.  The BBS gave me a
"Data File Not Found" message.  Hanging up and dialing back, I ended up in
an "Is this correct?" loop during log on.  This seems to be a pretty buggy
BBS they've got.

If anyone is successful at obtaining the 90C20_22.EXE file and uploading
it to cica, I'd be very grateful.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: macole@wam.umd.edu (Mario A. Cole)
Subject: Re: WinSpeed Drivers Discontinued?!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:52:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.213915.1@vax1.umkc.edu> edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>Hey all, I found out some distressing and mysterious news concerning the
>WinSpeed drivers. I called CompUsa here in Kansas City about them and was told
>they were discontinued!?
>Does anyone have any info on what's going on? Were they faulty, or is it
>just CompUsa that is discontinuing? The guy at the store didn't know
>why they were.
>
>Mario any ideas?..............................
>

Yep...I have a copy of the latest "The Programmer's Connection" buyer's 
guide...and WinSpeed is listed there for $54.  The latest version is 1.03. 
I'll have to contact Panacea themselves to find out more...but it seems 
that they are still being sold.  Here is the number for Programmer's Connection
if anyone is interested in ordering WinSpeed or any other software:

Programmer's Connection
7249 Whipple Avenue NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7143
U.S.A

USA & Canada	800-336-1166
International	216-494-8715

Hope that helps, Eric.

Mario


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From: edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Shareware Statistics Program
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:31:08 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <1992Aug27.180840.27771@news.iastate.edu>, LB.NKA@isumvs.iastate.edu (Nubi Achebo) writes:
> Does anyone know if there is a shareware statistics out there?  I
> will appreciate information about the site and file directory.
> 
> lb.nka@isumvs.bitnet
> lb.nka@isumvs.iastate.edu
> 
> Nubi Achebo

	Nubi, there is some available. They are if I can remember at
wuarchive.wustl.edu (where else!). They are in msdos/stat if I remember
correctly. At any rate they are in a subdirectory called stat.
They have both categorical and continuous tests there.
Been a while since I looked at them.

Hope this helps

ERic
From: reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp (Reza Naima)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Win NT
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:02:00 GMT
Reply-To: reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp (Reza Naima)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591


  Is there a FAQ I can get about Windows NT (How would I do so?)?  I feel 
like i'm totally in the dark cuz I've heard of it refered to a million 
times, but I don't know what it means.  And why do you need to get a new 
system to use it?

Reza
reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp


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