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From: LindaMc@world.std.com (Linda M McInnis)
Subject: Drummer Wanted
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:57:45 GMT

The Button Kings, an all original alternative band is looking for a talented
and committed drummer.  We have started to book gigs for the fall but have
unfortunately recently lost our drummer.

If you're interested, please send a demo tape to :

The Button Kings
P. O. Box 1227
Concord, MA 01742

or call 508-369-4786 for more information.

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Linda McInnis, 		Button Kings Management Team
P. O. Box 1331		"you never dreamed that you could share your pain
Concord, MA 01742	 this could be your year to see the rays through
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: ron@vicorp.com (Ron Peterson)
Subject: Re: Insuring home studio equipment?
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:34:23 GMT

In article <6930.2a6c0f7f@dcatla.uucp> duslt@dcatla.uucp writes:
>I have over the past several months built up a pretty good home studio setup,
>and heve several thousand dollars invested in equipment.  I decided that I 
>really needed to have this covered by insurance, so I called my friendly
>homeowners' agent to add some additional coverage to cover this equipment.
>
>They are giving me no end of grief about covering my studio gear.  First I
>have to unequivocally swear that I never do anything there for which I charge
>anywone, then they still act like they don't really want to cover it because
>electronic equipment is considered "high risk", and the underwriters don't
>want to cover you when two thirds of the content value of your home is in
>electronic stuff.  Apparently professional musicians have the same problem in
>covering their gear.  If you are a musician, the insurance companies think you
>are a bad risk and don't want to cover you.

I had similar troubles.  They became much friendlier when I added two
car insurance policies to the account.  However, when they went to
enter it into the computer they couldn't find an appropriate
category to list it under!  So they ended up listing it as hobby
tools or something like that.  I later talked to several other
insurance companies (when I was thinking about switching) and they 
all refused to offer coverage.  Perhaps it is easier to get
equipment covered if you approach them as a business or corporation.
You might even consider making the purpose of your business venture
somewhat misleading as in "Priviet Enterprises is a small innovative
company involved in research into sonic ambience processing for
musical environments."  (In other words, you tweak the knobs till it 
sounds good!)
ron@vicorp.com or uunet!vicorp!ron
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Anti-censorship T-Shirts
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:13:10 GMT
Reply-To: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Organization: Control Data Corp., Arden Hills, MN

In article <21613@sybase.sybase.com>, elton@sybase.com (Elton
Wildermuth) writes:
|>In article <102360056@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com> bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Bill Wilhelmi)
|>writes:
|>>
|>> [...]  I personally don't think songs advocating the killing of police, 
|>>abuse of women, explicit sex, etc. ought to be sold to children.  Warning 
|>>labels are appropriate for this music.  
|>
|>That's lovely, and you're quite welcome to your opinion.  By all means,
|>restrict the music that your kids can buy; but please don't try to
|>control what MY kids may or may not buy.  That's MY job, and I'll thank
|>all concerned to let me do it myself.

So, how DO you feel about warning labels? By themselves, they
do not restrict the music that your kids can buy, unless there
is legislation that prevents sale according to the ratings.
In that case it is no different than the movies (whenever they
are enforced, which is not always). In that case, how much do
you scream at the movie industry for having ratings?                    

Alex.

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From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: warning labels (was Re: Anti-censorship T-Shirts)
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:48:45 GMT
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof

>>Warning labels are appropriate for this music.
>
>I respectfully disagree.  I'll state my reason briefly: music stickering,
>unlike, say, UL stickering, reflects a necessarily subjective judgment, so
>that the only real purpose it serves is that of being a convenient target
>for boycotters and the like.


But isn't rating a movie the same thing?  They look at it, and depending
on what they see, they decide who can/cannot enter the movie.  Since many
songs cover the same ground as an R or NC-17 or X (or whatever) movie,
isn't it appropriate to rate them as well?


Disclaimer: I'm just playing devil's advocate here...I'm 100% 
	    against warning labels and censorship in general.  
	    I listen to a lot of really nasty music, actually.  
	    But it's an interesting point.  


scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
From: peters@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Dan Peters)
Subject: AKAI AX-80 Info?
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:59:06 GMT


Hi,
	Could anybody on the Net give me some info about the AKAI AX-80?

	I just got one and was wondering:

		what year they came out?
		does any one have a manual?
		how durable are they?
		opinions? (but I don't think I'll get any opinions :-)
		any other info?

	EMail is fine and thanks for the information.

	Dan
-- 

== Dan Peters		 	Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
== (508) 294-3325 (294-3054)	300 Concord Road    MA30/MS850A
== D.Peters@bull.com		Billerica, MA		01821
From: mckinzie@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark McKinzie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: sound files on the net
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:45:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

dhi00@ccc.amdahl.com (Dario H. Impini ) writes:

>the sounds can be as short as a few seconds or as long
>as an entire song (3 1/2 minute song runs approx. 1 Meg).
>     <snip>           throwing sound files around may not
>be easy or convenient but its not impossible.  it would
>certainly add a whole different flavor to this board.

Interesting idea, I suppose, but also a great way to get
rec.music.makers dropped by many sites.  If y'all really
REALLY want this, attempt to make rec.music.binaries or
something.  Loading up r.m.makers with multi-megs of
encoded binary data *will* cause many news/system administrators
to drop all of r.m.makers, including the current low 
volume discussions.


-- 
Mark McKinzie          	|    We just won't eat on Sunday
mckinzie@math.wisc.edu 	|    Got to buy him a limousine
UW Dept. of Mathematics	|    Somewhere to live, somewhere to pray. 
Madison, WI 53706      	|               -RJD, "TV Crimes"-
From: ai.torosian@mcc.com (Dan Torosian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Mungo Jerry = Robert Palmer ?
Date: 27 Jul 1992 15:07:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Last weekend, another musician at a gig told me that "Mungo Jerry"
(early 70's? one-hit wonder with 'In The Summertime') was actually
Robert Palmer.  Anyone else (like Brian Rost maybe) know about this?

-Dan
From: carolyn@usna.navy.mil (Ms. Carolyn Mayr (CADIG STAFF))
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Trying to locate a Santana tune
Summary: How can I get in touch with Carlos?
Keywords: try a little harder now
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:38:24 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.makers

In article <1992Jul21.193329.19862@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, bhatia@moscow.uucp (25581-bhatia) writes:
> In article <1992Jul19.162036.3641@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> bhatia@moscow.UUCP (Raman Bhatia) writes:
> >Does anybody know which Santana Album contains the song
> >                        -------
> >"Try a little harder now"? I've been trying to locate it
> >-------------------------
> >for some time w/o success (guess I just have to try a
> >little harder ...)
> >
> 
> C'mon, don't tell no one's heard of this tune? I thought it was famous!
> Perhaps I should ask Carlos himself (anyone have his email address?!)
> 
> Raman

While we're on the subject, a friend of mine needs to send Carlos 
a personal letter but wants to make sure it goes to Carlos and
doesn't get answered by fan club personnel or management.  Anyone have 
a REAL address for him?  Thanks.

				Carolyn

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Carolyn A. Mayr (Computer Programmer)       MaBell:   (410) 267-4413
Computer Aided Design/Interactive Graphics  INTERNET: carolyn@usna.navy.mil
590 Holloway Road, Rickover Hall, Stop 11G  UUCP:     ...!uunet!usna!carolyn
U.S. Naval Academy                          Autovon:  281-4413
Annapolis, MD  21402-5042                   FAX:      (410) 267-2591
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From: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Christian Dylan Losinger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Anti-censorship T-Shirts
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:04:53 GMT
Reply-To: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

>   were it a recorded work ( sex sells ).  I bet Tipper Gore herself
>   has quite a few bestsellers with nice juicy sex scenes on her
>   shelves...  Obviously her kids don't read enough for it to be a
>   problem.
>
>   
>				/tony


	that last sentence is beautiful. i wish mrs. Gore could read that. 
	yes labels do restrict sales. did anyone read about the record store
owner that went to jail for selling "nasty" records to minors?

	my favorite "why do people have to swear anyway? can't they find a
better way to say what they are saying? why do they even have to say it at all?"


	no point.
        --------------------------------------------------------------
        	c  h  r  i  s   l  o  s  i  n  g  e  r   r  i  t 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.alt.guitar.tab,rec.music.makers
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: ** new at ftp.nevada.edu(131.216.1.11) for 7/31 **
Originator: jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:21:44 GMT

	Roseanne Cash
		Tennessee Flat Top Box c
	Dire Straits
		Sultans Of Swing c
	John Lennon
		Imagine c
	Jeff Lynne
		Save Me Now c
	Fred Neil
		Everybodys talkin' c
	TV
		Peanuts t
	Rick Wagner
		Ride Of The Valkyries t


The Archive.tar.Z file will be updated later today.

Since several people have sent me mail telling me that Tequllia is in the
wrong directory, but ALL of those people had different directories as being
correct, I will put it in the Various Artist directory.

Unless I get ant STRONG objections by Wed. night, I will be permenantly 
removing the Contents.tar.Z files.

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* From: James B     * "For you, the blind who once could see, the bell tolls  *
* jamesb@nevada.edu *  for thee.                            -- N. Peart       *
*******************************************************************************
* "...if you're trying to get a laugh at a funeral, you're going to have to   *
*  be a lot funnier than that!"				-- Woody from Cheers  *
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From: shunter@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dark Star Crashes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Wanted: info on Rhodes Mark I Stage Piano (Seventy-Three)
Keywords: electric piano Rhodes
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:20:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul30.195503.19005@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> robmacf@philo.mcgill.ca writes:
>Hi all,
>
>I just picked up a Rhodes Mark I 'Stage Piano' (73 keys), and I'm
>looking for any info I can find on it.  I don't even know how old it
>is; the last person who owned it bought it used in 1977.  It's in 
>pretty good shape, but a couple of the keys don't sound quite right.
>
>It's a pretty nifty device; it's electric, but takes no power.  It has
>a great mellow sound, and the keys feel pretty good.
>
>Does anybody have a service manual for one of these?  Attempts to track
>down Rhodes Inc. have been fruitless.

Well, you can tell if it's an early Mark I or a late Mark I by
the hammer construction. The newer ones had all-plastic hammers,
while the older ones are wooden just below the hammer tip. Rhodes
was once owned by Fender and CBS, and are now owned by Roland. Parts
are getting scarce - if you have luck tracking down piano
tines, please post the info as they are getting hard to find.

I've never heard of there being a service manual for Rhodes before -
I'd be curious to hear if you find one. They are pretty
straightforward to work on. Electrically, they couldn't be much
simpler. I'd also like to find out if anyone has published the
various mods that were common. I put backchecks and a MIDI sensor in
mine, but the action is a little heavy for my taste.

Stewart Electronics used to make a great preamp for stage pianos,
too. I found a local shop that still had one left. The preamp
replaces the crummy "Bass boost" control (which is really a passive
bass roll-off) with active circuitry with gives you bass, treble,
and a notch filter. I found, though, that I had to shield the
pickups with grounded tinfoil to reduce hum to an acceptable level.


Good luck -

Dave
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*                           Dave Chesavage                                *
*                      shunter@igrad1.ucsd.edu                            *
From: muoto@nunki.usc.edu ("Olivetti")
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: WANTED: DX100 or DX21
Date: 30 Jul 1992 15:48:51 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu

Looking to buy a used DX100 or DX21.
Please e-mail offers.

muoto@usc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: Myles Wakeham <mylesw@amgen.com>
Subject: Re: royalties and copyrights
Organization: Amgen Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:20:47 GMT

> 'This Business of Music', by Billboard Publications is about 3" thick
> and tells you anything you ever wanted to know about the music business.

Yeh, but only if you are an attorney!  That's a really heavy duty book. 
There
are plenty that are easier to digest.  Try this.....

Call BMI in Hollywood  (Don't know the number off hand, buts its the
213 area code and they're on Sunset Blvd).  Ask for the Writers 
Administration department and ask them to send you their information
kit.  They're really helpful and have an excellent information packet.
(I'm sure ASCAP has a similar service, but I'm with BMI so I'll tell
you what I know).

Then call the (800) directory assistance and ask for Mix Bookshelf in
Northern California.  Once you have the number, call them and request
a free catalog.  At the back of their catalog is an excellent listing
of books on writing & publishing that you can order.

A couple of phone calls, but heh, this is good stuff.

Take Care

Myles Wakeham
From: rfisel@informix.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Anti-censorship T-Shirts
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:37:00 GMT
Reply-To: rfisel@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <45687@shamash.cdc.com> ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg  
x4718) writes:
> In article <21613@sybase.sybase.com>, elton@sybase.com (Elton
> Wildermuth) writes:
> <..text deleted>
> |>of enacting further foolish laws in the same spirit.  Why is it so very
> |>difficult for people to simply live according to their own morals, and
> |>to allow others to do likewise?  And why are the good burghers of
> <text deleted...>
> 
> Because some people have no morals and they prey upon others.
> Society, as a whole develops laws to protect innocent people
> from the immoral. This should be obvious to someone so
> 'enlightened' as you.
> 
> By the way, there *are* such things as moral absolutes - 
> things that are obviously agreed upon for society's benefit.
> 
> Alex.
> 
Alex, 

I usually stay far away from these flame wars, but I must ask you to get real  
here: since when is our government capable of morals? Historically, US law has  
reversed itself plenty of times on issues that could be seen as "moral" issues.  
Once, US law held that slavery was legal - did that make it moral? And is it  
now immoral? Before Roe v. Wade, was abortion immoral, and then afterward, did  
it become moral? And will it become immoral again if the Supreme Court  
overturns Roe v. Wade? 

The point is not to start further flame wars on other topics, but to point out  
that the only people who have to agree on something for it to be law are a  
small group of UNrepresentative types in Washington. These people feel they  
have to kowtow to whoever yells the loudest or whoever donates the most PAC  
money. These people, whatever their value to society, do not reflect my morals  
or anyone else's. They make compromises to stay in office; that is the nature  
of politics.

On all of these issues, I feel the government's business is to protect our  
bodies from physical harm and our pockets from thievery. (There may be morality  
involved in murder or robbery, but I'm not scared of a murderer's morals - just  
his gun.) Government cannot protect anybody's morals; government is not moral,  
by any standard of morality with more than a one-month memory. 

The best one to uphold your morals, or those of your young children, is you.  
And the best one to uphold my morals is me. I wouldn't trust anyone else to do  
it, and you should not either.

Rick Fisel 
opinionated employee of opinionless
Informix Software
I prefer replies by email. 
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: tgwhite@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.g.white)
Subject: Re: Guitar Wood Shop
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:33:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.194804.11393@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> jmorton@euler.Berkeley.EDU (John Morton) writes:
>I need to know the address of a certain instrument-wood outlet
>in Northern California - I hope to pay them a visit later this
>week.  I have forgotten the name and the city, but I think it's
>in Healdsburg or Cloverdale.
>
>Can someone send me this info?
>

Or post it to the net.  I will be in San Francisco in November
and would love to stop in at this place if I'm close.  I've
always had a hard time finding wood I liked.

Todd
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Mungo Jerry = Robert Palmer ?
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:58:57 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <1992Jul29.054632.17654@cs.ucla.edu> gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
|In article <19920727200732.9.TOROSIAN@GANESH.MCC.COM> ai.torosian@mcc.com (Dan Torosian) writes:
|>Last weekend, another musician at a gig told me that "Mungo Jerry"
|>(early 70's? one-hit wonder with 'In The Summertime') was actually
|>Robert Palmer.  Anyone else (like Brian Rost maybe) know about this?
|
|Mungo Jerry is the name of a band, not a person.

The main bloke in Mungo Jerry was called Ray Dorsey (or something like). 
Last seen playing folk clubs in the Uk about 2 years ago. He had more than
one hit too (in the UK at least - one called "alright" springs to mind).
Not too dissimilar in looks to Phil Lynett (sp?) (Thin Lizzy). Not sure
where Robert Palmer comes into this. Maybe the mix-up is with "Vinegar
Joe", a minor band fronted by Palmer and Elkie Brooks before they were
famous - don't think they made any records of note in that band though.

gordon
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: bussey@meaddata.com (Greg Bussey)
Subject:  noise abatement shuts down Tesla
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:24:12 GMT


I once measured the level of ambient noise inside a car. 

It was a 1982 Subaru GL. The car was in good condition (eg. no 
muffler problems, etc.) 55 miles per hour. Radio off. The 
A-weighted SPL measured at the same postion as a passenger's 
ears was 86-89 dB.

It was hard to believe because it didn't sound at all loud.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: merk@unislc.uucp (John Merk)
Subject: RE: Opinions about ART
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:11:17 GMT

Well, I owned a Nightbass for a few months at the begining of the year.  There
are a lot of effects on this unit, making it very difficult to check out in
the store.  I only noticed the problems my unit had after getting it home.

One of the Nightbass' features is a series of LED's that indicate which 
effects are active.  Half of these didn't work.  It turns out that the ribbon
cable that connected to them was installed incorrectly, off by one pin.  One
LED never did work.

I also noticed a high-pitched ringing that was particularly noticeable when
the tube pre-amp (a single, cheap 12AX7) was on.  The noise got worse however
when I turned the rotary selector nob.  I should have returned it at this
point, but I had worked out some killer pre-sets and was hooked.

At a band rehearsal, all of a sudden my sound just went bad.  It turns out
that the expander was at fault.  I called ART to arrange for sending it back
to them.  I found out that I had to pay shipping to Rochester,NY and they
would take care of shipping it back, but they only use UPS Ground.  This 
meant that at best I would be without my unit for three weeks, most of
the time being spent in transit.  I shipped it and waited...and waited.
Finally, I called ART and found out that my unit had been received, but no one
was working on it!

When I finally got it back, they indicated that the expander had been 
adjusted, the tube replaced and the rotary selector also adjusted.  The
other noises I mentioned were brushed-off as "unit limitations."  Well,
I started using it again.  About a week before my band's first concert
the expander went out again.  I took the expander out of all the presets
I intended to use and went on with the concert.  About halfway through
the concert and during a song, I lost all sound for about 3-4 seconds.
I'd had enough at this point and was ready to return it.  That's when
things got *real* interesting :-(

The customer service rep told me that the CEO of ART had directed them to
*not* replace any units for any reason.  This of course is in direct violation
to the ART warranty.  I was told that they could replace everything except the
case, resulting in essentially a new unit, but I had to again pay shipping.
I refused.  The store I bought the unit from had full knowledge of all this
but remained uninvolved.  I decided it was time for a change. ;-|  After
making a total pain-in-the-a of myself they gave me my money back.

I can only say this about ART: STAY AWAY!!  They are a small company that
is rushing new products to market early, too early!  If you like being a
pioneer, and have money to throw away, then go for it.  I seriously doubt
they will stay in business for more than a couple years unless they start
taking quality seriously.

John

merk@unislc.slc.unisys.com