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From: lynnef@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Lynne Axel Fitzsimmons)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: game for Scout meetings
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:28:29 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.


This game comes from a Games book published by the
Bharat Scouts and Guides (India).  It is attributed
to the Catholic Boy Scouts of Ireland.

Lighthouse

equipment - enough blindfolds for half your group.
location - a reasonably large room.

The Leader is the lighthouse.  Half the troop (pack, company) are ships, and
put on the blindfolds at one end of the room.  The other half are rocks, and
distribute themselves on the floor between the ships and the lighthouse.  Please
ask the rocks to keep their hands and feet in to minimize tripping.  The rocks
also should not clump up.

The lighthouse goes "woo woo" to guide the ships.  The rocks go "swish, swish"
quietly to warn the ships of their presence.  On go, the ships navigate
between the rocks to the lighthouse.  If they touch a rock, they are sunk
and must sit on the floor (and go "swish, swish" also).  When all the ships
have made it to the lighthouse (or have been sunk), the rocks and ships
switch places.

--
Lynne Fitzsimmons		lynnef@tekig1.pen.tek.com

"Second star on the right and straight on till morning" - Barrie, Pan, Kirk
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: dbsjbm@oompah.Arco.COM (John B. McKeon)
Subject: Need Scout Grace for Banquet
Keywords: Grace, Blessing	
Reply-To: dbsjbm@oompah.Arco.COM
Organization: ARCO Exploration and Production Technology
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:07:09 GMT

Do you know of a good scout grace or blessing I could use at our upcoming
Cub Scout Blue and Gold Banquet?



John B. McKeon
Cubmaster Pack 265
Bois d'Arc District
Circle Ten Council

ARCO Exploration and Production Technology Company
2300 West Plano Parkway
Plano, TX 75075-8499
From: bob.kenyon@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Bob Kenyon) 
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: LEADER POEM
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:29:00 GMT
Reply-To: bob.kenyon@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Bob Kenyon) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Freddy's Place BBS - Edmonton, AB - 403-456-4241

Here's a poem that I once recieved. I don't know the author, or source.
If anyone does please let me know.

                          A LEADER

You measure a Leader:

Not in terms of skills you possess,
But in terms you develop in others;

Not in terms of those you help,
But in terms those you help to help themselves;

Not in terms of decisions you make,
But how you free others to make decisions;

Not in terms of power you have over others,
But in terms of power you are able to release in others;

Not in terms of what you have accomplished,
But what they have accomplished.

That is the measure of a Leader.

- Unknown -

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Yours In Scouting
                            FREDDY'S PLACE BBS
Bob Kenyon, Trainer III     (403)456-4241
Edmonton Regional Council   USEnet:
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Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: douglas@leland.Stanford.EDU (Douglas Roy Williams)
Subject: Re: Eagle Palms: A question for all of us net.experts
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 21:03:27 GMT

A scout can earn eagle palms on merit badges that he earned before he became an eagle scout.  just ask me. I did it.  I believe that the requirments focus is on the total number of merit badges--26,31,36, etc.
 The 3 month requirment must be met for each palm
From: hilding@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Hilding Holroyd)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: How would you write a contract?
Summary: more on contracts, please ..
Date: 20 Jan 93 17:11:13 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer ,Oceanport NJ

Bob,
I would be interested in seeing these contracts
or covenants. Would you post or e_mail a sample.

I do agree with a later post which stated that such contracts SHOULD NOT
be needed. However, in my case, I need something (anything!) that could
help.
Thanks.

H. Holroyd/SM Tr82, Jackson,NJ/Jersey Shore Council

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Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener)
Subject: Swiss Scout Law and Promise (was: REQUEST: your promise & law)
Organization: Peppermint Software Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:01:51 GMT

Christine_Code@mindlink.bc.ca (Christine Code) writes:

>What is the promise and law for Girl Guides (or Girl Scouts) in your country?
Keeping in mind that Girl and Boy Scouts are co'ed in Switzerland:

Swiss Scout Law and Promise
---------------------------
Pfadigesetz:
ein pfadi ist ehrlich gegenueber sich und den anderen
ein pfadi steht zu seinem glauben und achtet den glauben anderer
ein pfadi traegt sorge zur natur und allem leben
ein pfadi hilft wo er kann
ein pfadi ist ein guter kamerad
ein pfadi nimmt sich zusammen
ein pfadi kann sich in die gemeinschaft einfuegen
ein pfadi ueberwindet schwierigkeiten mit humor
ein pfadi kann verzichten
ein pfadi ist bereit, verantwortung zu tragen.

Versprechen:
ich verspreche, mein bestes zu tun, um nach dem pfadigesetz zu leben.
(ggf: ich bitte gott und meine freunde mir dabei zu helfen)


(english translation, with no warranties)
A scout is honest towards him-/herself and the others
A scout stands to his/her belief [whatever it is] 
        and respects the belief of others.
A scout takes care of the nature and all living beings
A scout helps wherever he/she can
A scout is a good companion
A scout keeps his/her self-control
A scout can integrate him-/herself in the community
A scout overcomes difficulties with humor
A scout can renounce
A scout is ready [willing] to take responsibility.

Swiss Scout Promise:
I promise that I will do my best to live by the Scout Law.

(optional addendum for religious scouts: 
I ask god and my friends to help me in this goal).
 
Important note: None of the two texts play an important role in
the life of a swiss scout.  A scout promise is considered as something
very special. It is only meaningful if you really, really, really
plan to keep that promise.

It's a good guideline for the scout leader, though. 
In day-to-day life, a swiss scout learns to live by the law in a
very natural way, by following the example of his/her leader and
his/her companions.


-- Danny Schwendener         macman@bernina.ethz.ch
   Wolfsmeute Nidau/Glockenhof, Sihlstr. 33, CH-8001 Zurich, Switzerland
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: mtdolan@mtu.edu (Michael Dolan)
Subject: rain wear, tents
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:14:06 GMT

Just wondering if any scout groups out there have had much experience camping
in the rain... were/are prepared for such weather.  I am not refering to just
a little drizzle here and there, I mean full out rain... lasting hours.
If you are used to camping in such nasty weather and are prepared for it, I would
like to know what kind of tents you use (or what kind of shelter, besides a
house!).  I am going to a rather rainy part of the world for the summer and
need a good tent.  

Thanks in advance...

mtdolan@mtu.edu
Michael Dolan
From: bob.kenyon@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Bob Kenyon) 
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: OTHER MESSAGE SYSTEMS
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:16:00 GMT
Reply-To: bob.kenyon@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Bob Kenyon) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Freddy's Place BBS - Edmonton, AB - 403-456-4241

Back a while ago, I think I saw some messages that listed off other
Scout systems, and the networks that they are running on. Can we get
these passed along again?

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Yours In Scouting
                            FREDDY'S PLACE BBS
Bob Kenyon, Trainer III     (403)456-4241
Edmonton Regional Council   USEnet:
Edmonton, AB. Canada        bob.kenyon@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
                            Fidonet: 1:342/14
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Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: wlieftin@cs.vu.nl (Liefting W)
Subject: Re: Swiss Scout Uniform (and how does YOURS look?) REPOST
Keywords: switzerland scout uniform
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:10:41 GMT

macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener) writes:

>Christine_Code@mindlink.bc.ca (Christine Code) writes:

>> (We'd also love to hear about your uniforms!)

>I'd be interested too in how the uniform looks like in other countries.

Well, here's a brief description of the dutch uniforms.

The youngest scouts are 'beavers', aged 5-7.
They wear a red sweatshirt, with a blue picture of 'Lange Doener',
the main character in their play. they wear a blue baseball cap, blue
trousers.

Their leaders the same, without the cap.
Optionally, there is a red shirt available, for the summer.

The next group are the 'welpen' (boys) and 'kabouters' (girls). (Most
groups mixed them up.)
They wear a heavy-duty cotton blouse, color green, brown trousers (although
most wear jeans), and a cap in the form of half the earth, green, with
yellow 'meridians' (welpen) or a wollen cap (kabouters)

Leaders idem ditto.

Next group is the scouts, aged 12-15
Waterscouts have blue uniforms, Landscouts kaki brown, girls sometimes an
ugly color red/orange.

Older groups use the same uniforms, but without a cap.

Each group has it's own color tie, but we alse use the scottish tartans for
that. My group uses the McDonald tartan. 

(All recommands from other dutch scouts welcome, I may have forgotten
something.)

Wouter Liefting
wlieftin@cs.vu.nl
From: stefano@tibet.Italy.Sun.COM (Stefano Regonesi-SUN Italy )
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: test
Date: 28 Jan 1993 14:56:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: stefano@tibet.Italy.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: tibet.italy.sun.com

sorry test 
hello scouts 
bye 
Stefano (Associazione Guide e Scout Cattolici Italiani)
From: bcockburn@acorn.co.uk (Bruce Cockburn)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: Traditional Scouting
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:27:24 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

Simon,

  I think that the essence of Traditional Scouting is that Baden-Powell
would recognise it as Scouting, the modern Scout Association is too
different to what he envisaged.

  *  We still wear a distinct uniform, the uniform is functional as well as
     smart.  Our Scouts have a pride in their uniform.

  *  We still use a lot of Baden-Powell's original testwork and structure
     e.g. our Law and Promise are virtually identical to those of his time.

  *  We still use the Patrol as the fundamental organisational unit. 
     Youngsters in a 'gang' under the control of a leader, the PL.  Pls and
     APLs still do some of the training of members of their Patrol.

  Yours in Scouting, Bruce Cockburn.


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From: wsm0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Wayne S. Mery)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: District/Council Fundraising, SME, etc.
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:19:41 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

As the newly appointed district finance chairman I am looking to both obtain 
information and promote discussion among those of you with similar 
responsibilities.  Don't all jump at once!  -:)

I'm only 1 week into the job and I have no great worries - we have a well run
district.  In fact, all of the fundraisers are in place and running 
except for a chairman for the district dinner.  

One of the problems I see is in the area of continuity and long term planning
 - specificly in the areas of goals and personnel (future chairman, etc).  
For example, the chairman should have been recruited by at least November last
year.  HA.  

Anyway, my goal is by the end of the spring fundraising season to identify 
2-3 cantidates for each fundraising project for the next year.  If possible
of course obtain firm commitments.  Has anyone had success along those lines?
And any words of wisdom for this neophyte chaimain?

There's a wide range of topics we could discuss.  Someone take a stab at 
the next one.


North Valley District (The BEST)
Minsi Trails Council (Lehigh Valley - PA)
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From: a2baehr@rzdspc22.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Martin Baehr)
Subject: Thanks for the mail (was: I want to read rec.scouting
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:23:47 +0100 (MET)
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Hi there,

I want to thank you all for all the mail I got.
There were several suggestions on how I could read rec.scouting,
including offers to forward the contents of rec.scouting to me using
e-mail. Since I can't FTP, telnet or anything the like and our administrator
won't change his mind, this is the way I'll go.

Scouts greetings, martin

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Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Friday, 22 Jan 1993 09:33:28 PST
From: Bebo White <BEBO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Historical Award

Last summer while visiting the Jamestown Historical Site, my
Cub Scout son participated in a study project sponsored by the
National Park Service. He had to walk around the site and complete
a questionaire, attend several lectures and demonstrations, and
talk to a ranger to indicate what he had learned.

The publicity for this program (at the Jamestown information desk)
indicated that participation would satisfy the requirements for
a Cub historical award/patch. I do not remember the exact title of
the award.

My local scout office/shop has no clue what I'm talking about. There
was the suggestion that this was a patch offered by one of the districts
in the vicinity of Jamestown (though I suspect this would be of little
use to park visitors from all over the country).

My son would like to receive this award/recognition. If anyone has any
further information or pointers, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.


Bebo White
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     of SLAC, Stanford University or the DOE
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener)
Subject: Re: International Terms FAQ???
Organization: Peppermint Software Inc.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 12:57:12 GMT


waltoml@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>>
>>(oh...really quick...is there a way that you guys can explain some of
>>the more common terms, maybe we can develop a FAQ for this or
>>something.  You have problem with our DE and DD and Unit Commissioner
>>set ups, I have problems with Rovering and First Unit Leader. 
>>Thanks!)

and pnsf01dw@UMASSD.EDU (Dennis J. Wilkinson) replies:
>I think that a general overview of this type of thing would be a fantastic
>idea... 

Well, the idea is in the air. Is anyone willing to pick it up?  I'll be
glad to add it to the current FAQ collection when it is done (either to
"scouting around the world" or, if it grows too large, as a separate
FAQ).

My two cents: 

- I would suggest to set it up as a glossary. E.g. "Den Chief [BSA]:
scout who is detached to assist the Cub Scout leaders in their program,
building a bridge between cub scouting and regular scouting". (this is
probably not the exact definition, but you get the idea).

- What do we do with foreign language expressions, like KWBL
(Korpswolfbienlileiter) or "Pflock"?  Is it worth the trouble adding
them to the list, given that no one will really remember them by
the time one of the posters (me for example) uses them in a regular
posting?


-- Danny Schwendener         macman@bernina.ethz.ch
   Wolfsmeute Nidau/Glockenhof, Sihlstr. 33, CH-8001 Zurich, Switzerland
From: emg@Metaphor.COM (Mike Greenawalt)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: Eagle Palms
Keywords: Eagle, Palms
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:04:07 GMT
Reply-To: emg@Metaphor.COM (Mike Greenawalt)
Distribution: usa
Organization: m4

In article <2417@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com>, hilding@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Hilding Holroyd) writes:
|> Eagle Palms are awarded for incriments of 5 Merit badges over the
|> required number for Eagle, it does not matter how many the candidate may 
|> already have. Should a candidate have (say) 31 MB,
|> he would only have to wait out the time requirement from his
|> Eagle BofR in order to get a Palm awarded. It is possible, if
|> the Court of Honor is delayed a significant peiod of time, that
|> the Eagle and some Palms may be awarded the same night.
|> 
|> H. Holroyd/SM T-82/Jersey Shore Council
|> Eagle Class 1968
|> 

In addition to the time requirement (which implies participation), there is
also a Scoutmaster's Conference required and a Board of Review.  And all,
of course, completed before the 18th birthday.

Mike Greenawalt
District Advancement Committee, 
Mene Oto District, 
Santa Clara County Council,
California

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From: hilding@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Hilding Holroyd)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Eagle Palms
Keywords: Eagle, Palms
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:04:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concurrent Computer ,Oceanport NJ

Eagle Palms are awarded for incriments of 5 Merit badges over the
required number for Eagle, it does not matter how many the candidate may 
already have. Should a candidate have (say) 31 MB,
he would only have to wait out the time requirement from his
Eagle BofR in order to get a Palm awarded. It is possible, if
the Court of Honor is delayed a significant peiod of time, that
the Eagle and some Palms may be awarded the same night.

H. Holroyd/SM T-82/Jersey Shore Council
Eagle Class 1968

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Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: brenner@well.sf.ca.us (Anita Susan Brenner)
Subject: Girl Scout Fly Up  Ceremony
Summary: Summary of Troop 99's Fly
Keywords: Girl Scout Ceremony
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:49:36 GMT






                          TROOP 99's FLY-UP



               Today, Sierra Madres Council Troop 99 conducted a

Bridging (Fly-up) and Court of Honor Ceremony. The fifteen girls in

this troop are 9-10 years old and are in the third and fourth

grades in seven different local schools. Most of the mothers work,

but participate actively because this troop meets on Saturdays.

                A recent survey of adults who had gone through the

scout program found that the women remember two things. They

remember the ceremonies and they remember their leaders. Like it or

not, Leaders become a part of the girls lives. Our ceremony was

meaningful to the girls and was simple to organize.

                Our ceremony began with the girls marching in, we

did not do a Color Guard as the girls had no experience with this

and we wanted to keep it simple. One girl lead the audience in the

flag salute.

                The girls then marched up one by one, recited a

portion of the promise or oath and lit a candle. The candles were

placed in log candle holders. (Each log holds 5-7 candles) We

placed the logs on a table covered with a plastic cloth in "Girl

Scout Blue". It looked quite nice against their new green uniforms.

We wrote out portions of the oath or promise on 15 index cards, the

girls had them in their pockets. Some girls used them and some did

not. Each girl returned to her reserved seat after reading her

portion and lighting a candle.

                After this, our Association Chair gave a rather

inspirational talk to the girls and their families, which set a

warm, yet solemn tone.

                Parenthetically, the leader, two asst leaders and

the Association Chair all wore "uniforms". (Leaders' blouse, scarf

or tie, pin and our own navy blue skirts or suits.) We have found

that the girls like us to wear our uniforms and we wear uniforms

because this is a statement about our commitment to the program.

(But as I noted in a previous posting, no one seems to like the

regulation blue suits or green skirts. Most of us combine the

regulation blouse with our own wardrobes.)

                Finally, we announced the name of each girl,

the badges earned and one by one they "crossed the bridge"

(we used the stairs at either end of a small stage with

the curtains closed--but wooden bridges are

easy to construct and may be available at your Council Office.)

One leader sent the girls off at one side and they were met at the

other side of the stage by the Association Chair and the other

leader.The girls were handed envelopes with their new pins,

service stars for 91-92 (we were late), Dabbler badges, flyup wings,

rainbow bridge, new troop numerals, Council and National Patches and

World Association pins.

		The event was followed by a "pot-luck" desert

buffet and a brief parents meeting.
From: dsnoek@terapin.com (Daniel Snoek)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Honorary President of the BSA
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:27:38 PST
Organization: BBS

I received my Eagle May last year and on the gold credit card sized Eagle Scout
card it has George Bush's signature as Honorary President of the Boy Scouts of
America.  When my older brother received his Eagle over 4 years ago, his card
said Ronald Reagan for Honorary President.  My question is, will Bill Clinton,
the current president be the Honorary President like his predecessors? Or will
he not do that else he will piss off the special interest groups that he
represents?  I have a friend who is going to get his Eagle shortly I like
joking about who is going to be on his Eagle Card. :-)