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From: dec@alex.demon.co.uk (Doug Clinton)
Subject: Re: Desktop Library CD-ROM 2000+ etexts available for $40
Reply-To: dec@s-strat.co.uk
Organization: Alex Technologies Ltd
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:15:44 GMT

In article <16vkgtINN3et@agate.berkeley.edu>, rab@sprite.berkeley.edu (Robert A. Bruce) writes:
|> The Desktop Library CD-ROM contains 2000+ electronic texts: Classic
|> literature, historical documents, and technical information.  The
|> complete works of Shakespeare, Chaucer, Virgil, Dante and Milton
|> are on the disc, along with books by Mark Twain, Walt Whitman, Stephen
|> Crane, Herman Melville, and Edgar Allan Poe.  The text of many treaties
|> and international agreements, Supreme Court decisions, the 1991 CIA
|> world fact book, dictionaries, thesaruses, and word lists.

I received my copy of the Desktop Library rom this morning and would
like to add my recommendation to the others which have appeared in
this group. I have already pulled off one document which will be very
useful to me.

However, I can't find any works by Dante on the disk, though you
mention him specifically in the list above.

Am I missing something or does he not appear on the disk?

Thanks,
Doug


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dec@s-strat.co.uk			32A The Mall, Ealing
					London, England, W5 3TJ
From: Alex.Hahn@f408.n107.z1.ieee.org (Alex Hahn)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Gutenburg Project
Date: 12 Aug 92 04:56:49 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:107/408 - Starcom Syste, Eatontown NJ

You mentioned that the Gutenburg Project was on-line.  Do you have
their modem number?  I have been looking for access to the great works
of literature in ASCII for a CD-ROM project.  Thank you.

Alex Hahn



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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: HART@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU ("Michael S. Hart")
Subject: 1990 Census (Second Edition)
Reply-To: "Michael S. Hart" <HART@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:27:20 GMT

The second Project Gutenberg edition of the 1990 US census has been posted:
(Complete with national, regional, and divisional summaries and listings.)

Aug 1992 The 1990 US Census (2nd)  (uscen902.xxx)

ftp mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (not from 10 AM to 5 PM)

(These 1992 etext releases in> cd /etext/etext92)

Available soon on simtel20, quake.think.com, NPTN


=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
From: EUREKA@BRLNCC.BITNET (Eduardo Haddad Filho)
Subject: renewal
Reply-To: Eduardo Haddad Filho <EUREKA@BRLNCC.bitnet>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:41:48 GMT

Hi Martha:
I have just received a msg stating CONFIRM CDROM-L.
What does it mean? Do you want me to confirm my SUB?
Thanks!
Eduardo Haddad Filho (EUREKA@BRLNCC)
From: ag129@cl.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Desktop Library CD - buy it!
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:48:04 GMT
Reply-To: ag129@cl.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Organization: U of Cambridge Comp Lab, UK


Can I ask
a. are the files available in marked-up form, e.g. are they using the
   Text Encoding Initiative's SGML DTDs?
b. what is the approximate level of typographic errors? (I notice the
   Gutenberg project carries "Terance ..." (sic) by A.E. Houseman (sic);
   is this sort of crass inaccuracy present on the CD-ROM too?
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: Re: Cd-rom's and BBSes
Reply-To: ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:34:02 GMT

To: CDROM-L POSTINGS

>I have a very generic question about CD-ROMs that are used for storage on
>BBSes. Let's say you have a BBS with 6 lines, and you have a CD-ROM online
>with a CD like "BBS In A Box" or something. What will happen if all 6
lines are filled >at the same time, and they all try to download DIFFERENT
files off the same CD? >Will the CD-ROM have to keep searching the CD for
the files, thus causing and >INCREDIBLE slowdown??? What happens if all 6
users try to download the SAME >file??? I'm just curious. Thanks for any
help in advance.

Depends on what BBS software you are using.  Some of the software will copy
the file from CD-ROM to a temporary area on hard disk before downloading
starts.  This method gives you a lot better performance.  WildCat supports
this directly, and PCBoard will support this through a third party program.

- Arnold Jones
arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
Micro Design International, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: sthiagar@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (sivasailam thiagarajan)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: CD-ROM under OS/2 & ISA? (Long)
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:01:12 GMT

*SIGH*. When I posted the summary on this topic only a few hours ago,
I inadvertantly chopped a paragraph out of Kai Uwe Rommel's response.
Here is the resonse, in full, including my question. My apologies to
Kai Uwe Rommel, and anyone hurt by my clumsiness.

Raja Thiagarajan
(sthiagar@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu)
------

From rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de Fri Aug  7 12:48:18 1992
From: Kai-Uwe Rommel <rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>

In article <BsMBKE.Ky3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> you write:
>We're running OS/2 2.0 quite happily on our ISA bus systems. We want
>to get a CD-ROM drive, and want a system that's fully compatible with
>OS/2. That is, we want a system that we can fully utilize under OS/2,
>DOS boxes, and WinOS/2. Is there anyone out there with an ISA bus
>computer and a CD-ROM drive that meets these requirements? If so,
>please e-mail me with information about your CD-ROM drive, and I will
>summarize to the net. Thanks in advance for all replies. (Perhaps this
>information could also be added to the FAQ?)

I use a ISA 486/33 and have a NEC CDR-84 internal CD-ROM drive (SCSI) on
an Adaptec 1542B controller (together with a harddisk and streamer).
Works out-of-the-box (with patching "TOSHIBA" to "NEC    " in
cdrom.sys) in OS/2, DOS and Windows sessions.

However, I use it as a data medium only, I have no idea if it works with
Windows Multimedia extensions in a Win-OS/2 session.

Kai Uwe Rommel

/* Kai Uwe Rommel --- rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de */

DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams


Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: Greg_Tjosvold@mindlink.bc.ca (Greg Tjosvold)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Search Engines
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:44:22 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Hi all,

We are planning to create a CD-ROM for our customers that includes examples of
as many file/text search applications as possible. I am trying to compile a
list of what is available and would appreciate any help you can offer in
tracking down companies world-wide that offer this kind of thing.

Sincerely,

Greg Tjosvold
The One-Off CD Shop (BC)

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: CD Encyclopedias
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:03:51 GMT

odonovan@sciborg.UWaterloo.CA (Chris O'Donovan) writes:
>>I'm aware of Comptons Encyclopedia but that's it. What others are out there?
>>Would anyone who has seen the Comptons care to offer a short overview of
>>the quality of this disc? Is it worth the ~ $275 I've seen it advertised for?

>I have Grolier's Encyclopedia and I am very happy with it. It has what I think is the
>best interface to this type of software.
*----
I think Grolier's is pretty awful - it's a typical grocery store
encyclopedia, and the multi-media version seems to be abridged.

I've seen two different editions of Compton's at vastly different
prices, and World Book (also expensive).  I thought Americana
was also available on CD-ROM.  Any of these would probably be
better than Grolier's.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: lehtonen@krk.fi (Antti Lehtonen)
Subject: Simtel20
Organization: Radio Club of Kauniainen (OH2NRG)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:55:04 GMT

This message is to Harri Valkama.
I don't know your e-mail adress, I really sorry to use this to private 
message.

I want to by Simtel20 CD rom. These is 2 of them. I want them both.
So, e-mail me back some that I can order these CDs. 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,bit.listserv.cdromlan
From: odonovan@sciborg.UWaterloo.CA (Chris O'Donovan)
Subject: Re: Networked access to muliple CD-ROMs
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:54:56 GMT

>The jukebox solution would likely be the cheapest, and for that reason is the
>one that I would like to pursue. However, is the performance any good? I would 

I heard that some BBS software copies files to a hard disk scratch area when they are opened to prevent thrashing the CD ROM (and deletes them when they are closed). Of course this is only practical when the disk contains many small files.
-- 

Chris O'Donovan               |
odonovan@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca |
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: dicks@wez (Richard D. Schlotfeldt)
Subject: Should I wait before buying?
Reply-To: dicks@cfsmo.honeywell.com
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:57:43 GMT

InfoWorld reports in the August 17 issue that new drives are coming
which offer better performance at a lower price. Features include:

  - 300 KB per second
  - still 650 megs
  - 250-300 ms access
  - full motion video capability at 30 frames/second
  - Apple plans to sell the external drive for about $300. (For
    Apple machines only??)

InfoWorld expects this technology to be widely available by year end
with NEC, Sony Texel, and Philips Electronic Instruments all
announcing faster CD ROM products. However InfoWorld credits Apple
with being the most aggressive supplier of CD ROM technology and the
main reason that the technology will be affordable.

Now understand I am not trying to promote any vendor. I just hope that
people who know more about this will be so kind as to put this report
in perspective so that I can decide whether to purchase now or wait
a few months. Is this real or vaporware? Is it new, or old info? I
want to run NT (need SCSI) and consider cost to be an important
consideration. I do not need full motion video.

The best alternative I have seen is the external Toshiba T3301 for
$450 from CD Technology (with Microsoft NT coupon). I suppose
some folks have a different view? I am really new to CD-ROM but I
have read the FAQ.

Thanks for any help.
Dick Schlotfeldt
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: HART@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU ("Michael S. Hart")
Subject: Re: Desktop Library CD - buy it!
Reply-To: "Michael S. Hart" <HART@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:31:10 GMT

On Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:48:04 GMT Alasdair Grant <ag129@CL.CAM.AC.UK> said:
>Can I ask
>a. are the files available in marked-up form, e.g. are they using the
>   Text Encoding Initiative's SGML DTDs?

You may ask:  and the answers are:

The files are in Plain Vanilla Ascii.

>b. what is the approximate level of typographic errors? (I notice the
>   Gutenberg project carries "Terance ..." (sic) by A.E. Houseman (sic);
>   is this sort of crass inaccuracy present on the CD-ROM too?

Just what kind of "crass inaccuracy" did you have in mind Mr. Grant?
Project Gutenberg has not released any A. E. Houseman (sic).
=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
From: Daryl_Spitzer@mindlink.bc.ca (Daryl Spitzer)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Using a NeXT CD-ROM player with a MAC?
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:46:06 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

A friend just acquired a NeXT CD-ROM player (came with the NeXTstep 3.0
upgrade, not a bad deal!)...is there any way I can use it with a Mac?  (A
PowerBook 170 or a Classic II.)  Will I need a driver?  What sort of cables
will I need?

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------
 Daryl_Spitzer@mindlink.bc.ca     "Life isn't just, life just is."
         a2251@mindlink.bc.ca              -- Me  (I think.)
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From: mjohnsto@jenny.shearson.com (Mike Johnston)
Subject: Groliers Encyclopedia source: $19-$77
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:00:23 GMT


I posted yesterday about ERM/Electronics Liquidators. They have Groliers
1991 Encyclopedia:

	DOS Text&Graphics&Sound  $77
	DOS Text&Graphics	 $49
	DOS Text only		 $19

I've been inundated with requests for their phone number. It is (800) 776-5865.

They have LOTS of other CD deals as well:

	MS Bookshelf 1991: $79

	Front Page News:   $19

	Audibon Birds:	   $49

..and so on. I've ordered Front Page News and liked it (the review was posted her
a few weeks back). I just today ordered the encyclopedia. 

MJ

--
Michael R. Johnston/System Administrator                mjohnsto@shearson.com  
  =-=-=  The official .signature of the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. =-=-=
From: fkam@sodium.Sun.COM (Francis Kam - Asia CS)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Panasonic CR-501S
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:57:37 GMT
Followup-To: fkam@asia.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sodium.asia.sun.com

I plan to buy a Panasonic CR-501S (SCSI External).  Does it
work with Adaptec 1542B? 

Appreciate any info.

-- Francis Kam
--
Francis Kam
SUN Microsystems (Asia)         *Disclaimer: opinion is of my own, not my
Customer Service                             employer.
francis.kam@asia.sun.com  
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: fzia@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Zia)
Subject: Re: how about a text manipulation cdrom?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:34:08 EDT

In article <L38DPB14w164w@dvss.UUCP> dvss!jtroy@udel.edu (Jay Troy) writes:
>wgsteven@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Warren Stevens) writes:
>
>> How about it?  All the big name text processing packages, (TeX, LaTeX,
>> etc.) and some common utilities to handle conversions.
>
>A mountable CD file system with all of the TeX stuff would be a great
>idea.  Perhaps is could contain several of the versions of the main
>package, MetaFont, LaTeX, all of the other stuff (BibTeX, DVI viewers,
>utilities, lots of document styles) and as many fonts built as will fit
>on the disk.  If it was all installed and ready to use, all the user
>would have to do is make sure environmental vars were set, stick the
>disk in the drive, and viola, you're TeXing without losing any HD space.
>I'd spend $40 to get about 40M of my disk back and get a better
>installed TeX (more fonts, etc).
>
>Anyone listening?

I think its a great idea. I would buy one too (or perhaps more than one).

-Farrukh


--
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fzia@mailbox.syr.edu
From: flloyd@L1-A.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Desktop Library CD - buy it!
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:20:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-a.west.sun.com

In article <1479@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> dl1@ukc.ac.uk (Duncan Langford) writes:
>Walnut Creek have produced a quite stunning new CD in their
>'Desktop Library'; it's one of those rare disks which everyone
> should own. No, really.


I'll jump in and second the motion, the disc is great!  I'm having a
hard time grasping what all is on it :-)

A couple of minor suggestions, however:

	1. There could be a better table of contents. 

	2. All of the filenames are trunciated to MS-DOS lengths.
	   Perhaps some symbolic links using longer names would
	   be helpful.

Overall, hat's off to another Walnut Creek hit!

-fred

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| Phoenix, AZ    (If it's a fact, I believe it!)         (602) 275-4242 |
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: odonovan@sciborg.UWaterloo.CA (Chris O'Donovan)
Subject: Re: CD Encyclopedias
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:46:47 GMT

>I'm aware of Comptons Encyclopedia but that's it. What others are out there?
>Would anyone who has seen the Comptons care to offer a short overview of
>the quality of this disc? Is it worth the ~ $275 I've seen it advertised for?

I have Grolier's Encyclopedia and I am very happy with it. It has what I think is the
best interface to this type of software.

This is on a Mac, I don't know about any other platform.
-- 

Chris O'Donovan               |
odonovan@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca |
From: Sproul@sproul.sproul.com (Mark Sproul)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Mac CD-Rom on a PC
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:35:50 GMT
Reply-To: Sproul@sproul.sproul.com (Mark Sproul)
Organization: Sproul Consulting
X-Mailer: uAccess - Mac Release: 1.5v2


In article <1992Aug12.164404.6656@newshub.sdsu.edu>, mhatay@radphys.sdsu.edu (Mark Hatay) writes:
> Hi, Can one use a Mac (sony) CD-Rom drive on a pc.
> I have a Adaptec 1542b SCSI card.
> Thanks Mark.
> 

Yes, A freind of mine used to swap his Mac CD-ROM drive back and forth
all the time to his PC.  The Adaptec SCSI card should work, but I
dont know the details.

-------------------------------------
Mark Sproul - KB2ICI
From: muoto@nunki.usc.edu ("Olivetti")
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Groliers Encyclopedia source: $19-$77
Date: 20 Aug 1992 20:48:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu

The name of the company is ERM/Electronic Liquidators
Their number is 800-776-5865, their FAX is 617-665-4856 and their
other number is 617-662-9363, and their prices and unbelievable.
Here are just a few samples:

Grolier's Encyclopedia (TEXT ONLY)			$19.00
Grolier's Encyclopedia (IBM: Sound/Photo)               $77.00
Grolier's Encyclopedia (IBM: Photo/no sound)            $49.00
Grolier's Encyclopedia (Mac: Sound/Photo)		$77.00

American Business Phone Book				$39.00
The Greatest Books Ever Writen				$77.00

I haven't bought anything from them yet so I don't know about their
service, but their prices seem good.

muoto@usc.edu
From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Cabling CD-ROM to Sou
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:01:00 GMT
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen)
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193

>In article <1186#consult.UUCP> bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP) writes:
>We have a client who has a CD-rom player in their computer and then
>purchased a Sound Blaster card.  Apparently if you buy a CD-ROM (Specific
>model) from Sound Blaster then it is easy to connect the audio from the
>CD-ROM into the Sound Blaster, but no provision is provided for connecting
>any other CD-ROM units into the Sound Blaster.
>
>Does anyone have any experience with this?  What sort of cabling is
>required?  Is there any easy answers?  (Short of selling their CD-ROM and
>getting the proprietary CD-ROM from Sound Blaster).

The Sound Blaster is not able to connect to a CD-ROM player. You need to
use a Sound Blaster Pro.

With the Sound Blaster Pro, there is a non-standard SCSI interface for 
their CD-ROM drive, which is, I believe, a Matsushita/Panasonic drive.
If you use a different drive, you will need to install a controller card
for that drive as well as the Sound Blaster Pro. 

To connect the sound internally, there is a very small four-pin connector
on the Sound Blaster Pro. On most CD-ROM drives, there is a slightly 
larger four-pin connector on the back of the drive. These connectors are
not easy to find, and thus it is difficult to build such a cable. I know
that Creative Labs sells a cable for $20, but it probably only works with
their drive. You can also connect the sound externally with a stereo
phono plug.
---
 . KingQWK 1.05 .
From: Jack_Lee@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: re: Books in Print
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:12:52 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Eduardo -
>
> Regarding the availability of Books in Print on CD-ROM, yes it is
> available in this format from R.R. Bowker, which is also the producer
> of the print version.  There are a few drawbacks to the item that
> you might want to be aware of.  First is the price (over $1000 if
> I remember correctly).  You can email me directly for the address
> and phone number of Bowker since I am writing this from home and I
> don't have it handy now.  I can also give you a more exact price then.
>

I might also add that while the $1000 seems high, the printed version of Books
in Print is not that much less, and you won't need Forthcoming books to keep
BiP up to date as the CD-ROM is updated quarterly.

Jack_Lee.mindlink.bc.ca
From: Greg.Phillips@f503.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Greg Phillips)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Groliers Encyclopedia source: $19-$77
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:03:51 GMT


 -=> Quoting Mike Johnston to All <=-

 MJ> I've been inundated with requests for their phone number. It is (800)
 MJ> 776-5865. 
Do you have a non 800 number so I can call them or preferably FAX from 
Australia

Thanks.. Greg Phillips


 * Origin: Andy's BBS: Melb Australia - 61-3-357-3414 (3:635/503.0)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,bit.listserv.cdromlan
From: geertj@ica.philips.nl (Geert Jan de Groot)
Subject: Re: Networked access to muliple CD-ROMs
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:48:20 GMT

moorej@dvinci.USask.Ca (Jonathan Moore) writes:

>The jukebox solution would likely be the cheapest, and for that reason is the
>one that I would like to pursue. However, is the performance any good? I would 
>think that there would be significant delays involved in changing disks, and 
>if multiple users were flogging it, there would be serious contention. Have 
>these problems perhaps been addressed already with some kind of caching arrangement?
>If the jukebox idea is reasonable, what is available. The only one I've seen
>so far is the Pioneer DRM-600. Can these devices be used on a Sparcstation?

I found that performance isn't any good if multiple users are accessling a 
CDrom because of the seek time involved (remember, the rotation speed must
change too when you seek to another place!
Of course, swapping disks costs time too, but simultanious access is slow
enough not to be usable anyway.

However, if the users aren't accessing simultaniously, a jukebox is fine.
For instance, with the current flood of CD's SUN provides, it's nice 
(I already have more than 20, sheesh!).

I am using a CDR100 by NSM, a German company. It is a box with a capacity
of 100 CD's (600 gbyte!), which has a SCSI port and a RS232 port for
robot control (pick plate xx commands).

NSM doesn't have SUN software, that is for someone to make yourself.
As with most 3rd party CDrom drives, you need kernel source access to
make the driver run 2048 bytes/sector, and to make the mechanism that 
detects when to change disks.

Also, if you want to make HSFS disks sharable to PC's, remember that SUN 
currently puts a dot behind a filename without extension on hsfs (this is
according to spec), and PC-NFS triggers its  name translation on a 
filename with a dot (which is OK in itself too). Both is correct, but it
causes problems together. Fixing is trivial, but source req'd.

Together with the CD-ROM recorders now available one gets a very hot unit..


Geert Jan