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From: rafael@cats.ucsc.edu (David Konerding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Zakir Hussain in Chicago, Airto singing on Dark Star?
Date: 27 Sep 1992 02:14:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


parama@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Vice_Captain_Trips) writes:
>In article <1992Sep26.220739.20895@news.acns.nwu.edu> germuska@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Joe Germuska) writes:
>>(for you who didn't know, Zakir Hussain is a long time friend,
>>collaborator, and I believe student of Mickey Hart, who as mentioned in the
>Not at all. Zakir is the student of his illustrious father Allah Rakha, whom
>some of you may remember as the tabla artist who played with pandit Ravi
>Shankar at Monterrey.
>--P2

... And Zakir Hussain himself is the fabulous drummer who played in 'Shakti',
a group formed by John Mcglaughlin which was out of this world!  I cannot
more highly recommend the album 'Shakti, with John Mcglaughlin', recorded
live.  Ravi Shankar's nephew plays the violin on it, and it's one of the
most jamming albums I've ever heard.  Hussain plays an eight minute solo
on the mridignam(sp) on the third track (there are three tracks total, one
clocking in at 29 minutes, one at 18 and one at 8) that is positively mind-
bending.  Needless to say, if you like jamming music, check out all of JOhn
Mclaughlin's stuff-- especially his Mahavishnu Orchestra Live album.

	I cannot more highly recommend seeing Hussain, who has played live with
the Dead.

-- 
---
David Konerding						   rafael@cats.ucsc.edu
University of California, Santa Cruz
From: Frederick.A.Ringwald@dartmouth.edu (Frederick A. Ringwald)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Those Who Don't Like Dead
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:00:19 GMT
 <1992Sep23.175124.28871@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Sep23.175124.28871@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
jxr1092@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Jens Rodenberg) writes:

> Speaking of hating the Dead, I think most people who hate them have
>      never heard them (Casey Jones, Truckin', and Touch of Grey on the 
>      radio don't count), and think they're a bunch of old hippies with
>      Santa Claus playing guitar with a bunch of drug-crazed, naked, 
>      tie-dyed freaks following them around the world.

Ahem, this is exactly what they ARE, wouldn't have it any other way.

> When I played some tapes for one of these Dead-haters, he seemed impressed.

It is too bad that all this, particularly the drugs, has always
detracted from the music. On numerous occasions, people with only
passing familarity to the band have remarked to me, often with a note
of surprise, the realization that they're actually really good
musicians...

Among musicians, for a long time, it was popular to bash the Dead, as
they really are not terribly innovative: the band would be the first to
admit that their basic style is still the same as it's ever been (e.g.,
see the Jerry Garcia interview in Rolling Stone from a year ago). Then
again, most musicians I actually know like the Dead, as an appealing,
good-times band, music you *don't* have to break an arm listening to,
but still interesting and obviously the product of a great deal of
skill and musicianship. The band has this effect on an audience that
other musicians often covet, and always notice: at the end of a Dead
show, everyone is SMILING, and not because of the drugs - because they
feel really, really GOOD (even on nights when Jerry is singing badly
out of tune and Bob forgets the words AND the chords...). Notice, too,
now that the band is so popular, a lot of musicians are admitting that
they do like them: just look at Deadicated.

But then again, the scene is in many ways inseparable from the music.
That's one reason, I think,  for the band's enduring popularity: the
perception, once again, that the people in authority are SCREWING UP,
and the belief that if we want a better world, we need to be better
people. That, and it's radical to dance to...   ;-)

P.S. Naked and tie-dyed at the same time? Ouch!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis)
Subject: Refund/tour
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 11:21:35 GMT

Is it my imagination or did my refund get returned to me just when Jerry
started touring again (or at least planning)?  Seems to me we could have
save a lot of postal confusion by transferring moneys to tix of upcoming
shows.  I wouldn't have minded, really!!!

:) Barb
From: ngibbins@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Nick Gibbins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dead sighting...NOT!
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:36:18 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England

In article SXM126@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>   You know, you people never cease to amaze me. Why in the world would you
>follow a bunch of drug dealing homo's around the world?
>   Bob, yoy, what a homo. Jerry needs slim fast 'til the cows come home. How
>many keyboardists have they had by the way? Get a clue you lifeless sack of
>protoplasms!
>
>             "Say brother, can you spare a keyboardist?"
>   Steve Mandel
>                SXM126@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
>  " You can produce the sound of the two hands clapping. Now, how does
>                  one hand sound?"

Hmmm...nothing like a well reasoned critique to spice up your day...

 - Nick

Nick Gibbins               | "The difference between a moderate and a radical
ngibbins@dcs.warwick.ac.uk |  is that, if you scream mindless abuse at a
csudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk    |  moderate, he'll lose heart and soon go away."
From: folse@crs.cl.msu.edu (Mark Folse)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Jerry Joins the Geezer Set
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: folse@crs.cl.msu.edu.UUCP (Mark Folse)
Organization: Michigan State University

Maybe Garrison and Jerry doing Brokedown Palace? And
BTW, have any of the Dead ever appeared on any of Garrison Keilor's radio
shows?
egarr
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: 500 years of resistance
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:31:38 GMT

i just received a poster on this happening.  any other netheads
interested in the cause should certainly try to show up and march,
if not volunteer some time.  this is very important.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -<-@ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

500 Years of Resistance
March and Rally
Sunday, October 11

9:00 a.m.:  DEMONSTRATION IN AQUATIC PARK, SF AT Fisherman's Whart,
            to protest the planned landing of "columbus"
12 noon:    march begins at Van Ness near Aquatic Park, S.F.
1 p.m.:     Rally at Civic Center, S.F., with music, culture and
            speakers
    "1992 marks the 500th anniversary of columbus' arrival, five
centuries of genocide and oppression of indigenous people, and
enslavement of African people in this hemisphere.  But most
importantly, 1992 also marks 500 years of Resistance, of the
struggle for self-determination, social and economic justice.

    "Join with the thousand of people in a multinational show of
unity led by Indigenous peoples, with a mass march, from Aquatic
Park to Civic Center, where a rally with music and culture will be
held.  Bring your floats, banners and displays of solidarity!"

Volunteers and donations needed! call 415-821-6545 or 552-1992.

Sponsor: American Indian Movement

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -<-@ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Note: since this is an A.I.M. sponsored event, you can expect
certain things, namely the presence of the F.B.I.:  face paint is
optional.

i personally would also expect john trudell, who will be at
shoreline the day before.  this man has given the ultimate sacrifice
to the cause, namely his family who were burned down in their homes
while he was in jail on a trumped-up charge.  this is only one
example of random acts of discrimination and terror aimed against
native americans, especially those who speak out!! if you'll pardon
my soapbox for a moment, the fact that we have the knowledge of
these inhuman deeds and don't act to change things makes us as
guilty as custer (if not as dead) ...

ODC:  if you must have some, here goes:  what better way to spend a
day when the dead aren't touring than shaking up the establishment
just a teeny weeny bit?????  i got my shoreline tix for saturday
'cause mickey & friends would be there, which happily left me free
for the sunday march (too bad i can't see bonnie, too!).

please join us :)

lara
-<-@
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From: tjdalton@athena.mit.edu (Transitive NightFall of Diamonds)
Subject: Re: lost show tape grovel
Followup-To: rec.music.gdead
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:12:13 GMT

rlewis@csws5.ic.sunysb.edu (Robert Lewis) writes:
>
>If anyone has a copy of the dead at Nassau coliseum on march 29, 1985
>please e-mail me. I was there but I don't remember it. Please fill in
>my memory banks for this missing time is screwing up my system.

That was a fun show.  The last of 3 at Nassau that time.
An East coast, indoor, GA show.  Already Great.
That night and the previous night, Matt Kelly stopped in.

I: CR&S, Bottom*>Superstitious*, FOTD, Supplication Jam>Esau,
   Jed, Minglewood, Dough Knees

II: Terrapin>Women-R>GDTRFB>Baby What You Want>Drumz>Space>
Wharf Rat>Tossin' Rox >J.B.Goode

E: Brokedown.
* With Matt Kelley

Come to think of it, I'd forgotten what they played that night too.
Sure was fun to refresh the memory.  I think I was on the floor in front of
Jerry for that one...

I also remember someone at the door offering me $200 for my ticket for that night.
He must have been desparate to get in.  Sure am glad I went in for
that one.

So who's got a cassette board master of that one ???

	Tim
-----
Timothy J. Dalton                                   tjdalton@mit.edu
MIT, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, Materials Etching Technology Lab
-----Memory is a Terrible Thing to Waste----
From: jonnyk@pacifix.cs.uoregon.edu (Jonathan Dennis Kirshbaum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Grateful Dead and Cats
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:21:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Sep26.235236.29147@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>reference to jerry's "like licorice"
>
>
>sort of tangiential:  just got my RS, and it's got 25 years of
>interviews, including of course, Garcia, '91.  there are some
>kickin' interviews of some pretty interesting people there, needless
>to say.  i was surprised that they used such a recent interview, for
>jerry, since they've done them MORE than once, and also since the
>interviews date from '67.  also interesting to read the
>interviewer's comments about the RS loving the dead, then blasting
>them up until IN THE DARK came out.
>
>now i've gotta go see if i can find the 20th anniversary interviews
>mag to see if they did jerry then, and if so what date that one was.
>
>pick it up!
>
>disclaimer would be put here if i had the type to type one on (no i
>don't work for RS!)
>
>lara

I ran across a book from '72 that is mostly one 2 or 3 long interviews
with Garcia from around that time.  It's title is _Garcia_, and I
remember that the authoring credits were Garcia, Reich and someone
else.  If you're interested in JG's words, this book is really
interesting.  Anyone who wants more info can mail me, I don't
have it here with me...

Jon
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dead-Flames Digest #305 (Grateful parents)
Summary: Bad taste. Tsk. Tsk.
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:57:23 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

JPC2901@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>i had an experience similar to matt's about dead misconceptions.  

>my parents had to sit me down and talk to me as they were getting very
>worried about me.  it seems that my mom had told one of our employees that i
>was on tour.  he then told them that the dead were a bunch of freaks that told
>kids to go home and kill their parents and families.  after a few minutes of
>discussion i finally convinced them that he was wrong (hallucinating, maybe?). 
>and proceeded to put american beauty on the stereo, and mom still asks to hear
>it when i am home.

Boy, that was a close one. It's a good thing you were able to fool them with
American Beauty.  They must have been too old to register the sublimal 
messages.  My parents never knew what hit them, and the police believed it
was an accident.

They'll never figure out that SYF really means "Slay Your Families" and
the roses and skeletons and Friend of the Devil and ...

Unless Geraldo Rivera reads USENET.

Matt
Just kidding, Mom. But I won't let my kids listen. Nope. 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis)
Subject: Simpson site
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:31:27 GMT

I was just wondering if anyone else out there caught the Simpsons last
night?  Did you see Otto's tattoo?  Nice skull and rose!  Keep on truckin'
Otto!

Barb

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Monterey Pop Festival '67
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:04:42 GMT


From the New York Times

In an echo from the '60s Rhino Records plans to ressurrect
 the sounds of hte 1967 Monterey International Pop Festival
remembered as the first full scale rock festival.

The three day event featured many legends of the period
including Janis Joplin, the Byrds, the Jefferson Airplane,
and Jimi Hendrix.  

Stephen K. Peeples who produced the package said that most
of the music on it's 4 CD collection never has been released
commercially.

Peeples said the project began in 1989 when he was asked  to
sift through 10 hours of perfomances recorded at the festival
and make a selection of about 4.5 hour of music.

Other performers include the Association, Lou Rawls, 
Canned Heat, Country Joe and the Fish, Otis Redding and 
the Mamas & Papas.  THe package will include a 96 page 
booklet with photographs and remiiniscencs from participants.
It will be released November 13.

The company said that profits from the venture will be given
to various charities to be designated later.

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Subject: Re: ken kesey at santa cruz 10/01
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:54:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.164616.23867@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>Ken Kesey at Santa Cruz Civic Center
>7:30 p.m., Thursday, Oct. 1, 1992
>
>the dead to play behind, get those aging old crackpots
>down in the orchestra pit where they belong.  let's stop
>having concerts and start in with the Wagner."  I swear.

Wagner, Kesey, whatever ;-)  What a concept!  Will they sell season tickets?
From: x89poulos1@gw.wmich.edu
Subject: The Bead Band
Reply-To: x89poulos1@gw.wmich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:17:08 GMT

There is a band based out of Michigan called The Bead Band. If you haven't
heard them, you are missing out. They play a folk/rock mixture of all original
music. The only covers they play are by a fellow named Michael on Fire. I
am posting this message because I think everyone should hear them. They are
one of my top 3 favorite bands and rank right up there with the Dead in
terms of originality. Their songs are amazing. If anyone is interested in
hearing a live tape, send me mail and we can work something out.

x89poulos1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Dead tour
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 16:19:22 EDT

I was just wondering when the Dead were going to play the Syracuse-Buffalo
area in the near future. Does anyone have any concert info? 

Thanks

Chris Dunlea
crdunlea@rodan.syr.edu



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From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re:  WINTERLAND MEMORY
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:01:55 GMT


Tom Jacobs <Tom_Jacobs@qms1.life.uiuc.edu> writes:

|I realize that in this age of Widespread Panic
|about the use and consequences of drugs, these
|anecdotes may have lost most of the humor the
|events had for us back then.  But there was a time
|when people could do wild and crazy but otherwise
|harmless -- if Monumentally Embarrassing -- things
|while under some influences, and it wasn't a sign
|to so many that Amerikan Youth was going to hell
|on a sled.

did you lose a few brain cells or what?  there were
a lot of people screaming that we were going to hell
then too.  they just didn't have TV shows to do it 
from (ala Falwell, Swaggart, Robertson...).

I invited my friend Rick to come to the Calavaras 
County Fairgrounds Shows in 1987.  Now Rick was 
expatriot MidWesterner like myself who had done some
crazy things in his time, but he wasn't a deadhead
or anything.  I took him to his first show at Laguna
Seca  earlier that year.   He got to see the video
shoot and thought this Grateful Dead thing was alright.

I took off a day early and went up to get a prime camping
spot.  I picked up this woman hitchhiker about half way
there  and offered her Rick's tent (which I had with me)
for the night.  Rick shows up the next morning on his
bike (e.g. motorcycle).  I eat some mushrooms and we
all go to the show.  Rick had been staying away from 
the hallucinogens ever since that bust in the 70's, so
i didn't say anything to him about it.  unbeknownst to
me, our hitchhiker friend had eaten some acid.  we 
get in early and get a prime spot down front.  so there
we are with our blanket laid out some fruit and plenty
of water watching the trick airplane show before the
Dead come on (anybody remember that announcer for the
airplanes? crazy man).  during the set break, we are
sitting there eating grapes and intermittantly the
hitchhiker and i are breaking out in inexplicable,
uncontrolled fits of laughter.  Rick isn't sure quite 
what's happening, but he's having fun too when all of 
the sudden about 20 feet in front of us this completely
naked woman seemingly materializes and starts running 
directly at us!  Rick's eyes are popping out of his
head by the time the woman gets to us.  She stops, bends
over and starts eating our grapes.  Her eyes reminded me
of a deer caught in the oncoming headlights of a semi-truck
on some 2 lane blacktop.  Rick screams, "hey!" at the 
woman and up she jumps and runs off like a frightened
doe.   Rick is pissed and the hitchhiker and i are loosing
so much oxygen from laughting that we are turning red.
finally i ask him, "why'd you yell at that naked woman?"
he says, "who told that bitch she could eat my grapes?
i don't care if she was naked.  she wasn't that great!"

there is no moral to this story. it just had to be told.

steve-too
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Subject: JCB tape stolen; need replacement...
From: <ROWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 4 Oct 1992 17:09:57 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Greetings fellow heads.

Last Thursday, my jacket was stolen from school.
Inside the pocket of the jacket was only one item,
a Jerry Band tape from February, 1980 (perhaps the 12th),
Orpheum Theatre, Boston (late show).

The tape was of value because side B had After Midnite
into Eleanor Rigby back into After Midnite. I had brought
the cassette to school to play it for a friend.

Now it is gone. I am turning to the readers of this newsgroup
in hope of contacting somebody who has another copy.

If you do, and would like to assist, please send a message
my way. I will provide a blank tape with postage to make
life easy. My int'l userid is ROWHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU.BIT

Peace.
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From: AAT@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (Gus Trautweiler)
Subject: Re: Cubensis : live gate
Organization: University of Massachusetts
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:45:11 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Sep28.182944.8497@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Frank writes:


:Q | jko@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
:Q
:Q |> CUBENSIS is really good!   - DON'T MISS OUT!
 

	Actually I prefer Liberty Caps or those Oregon Potents!

	Gus Trautweiler (The Reporter Gene!)
	Plant & Soil Science: Biotechnology
	University of Massachusetts
	AAT@UCC.UMASS.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jcarr@dbs.com (John Carroll)
Subject: Re: Grateful Dead Mouse Pads
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:47:48 GMT
Organization: D&B Software, Inc.

Sounds interesting, I might like 2-3 of them.  What do they look like?  Are
there several designs?

John C.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Subject: Re: Late refunds
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:11:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.005413.1418@u.washington.edu> ileana@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ileana Blade) writes:
>I mailed my Veneta tickets back the week before September 12.
>I haven't received anything yet.
>Am i the only one?
>Should I start worrying?

I mailed my Veneta/Shoreline/BostonI tickets back within days of the notice.
I think this was like the 3rd week in August.  And my refund just came
a week or so ago.  I'd take it easy and wait.  Assume GDTS will put a message
on the hotline when everything's been mailed back.  Good luck!

Gail
From: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com (Jeff Lester)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Tour dates, confirmed and RUMOURED
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:08:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Oct2.200832.6278
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet

***************************************************************************
As a service to the net I volunteer to post a tour schedule (confirmed
and rumoured) on a regular basis. I have no rumour input other than
what comes across the net. If you want to correct or add to the rumours,
please email me at lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com.
***************************************************************************

****************
CONFIRMED DATES:
****************

Jerry Garcia Band:
October 31	Oakland Coliseum			Bass: 10/4
		w/ The Affordables


***************
RUMOURED DATES:
***************

December 4,5,6	Oakland Coliseum
December 5,6	Compton Terrace, Tempe AZ
  or 12,13
December 8,9,10	McNichols Arena, Denver CO
 or 15,16,17
December	Sports Arena, Los Angeles, CA (unlikely?)
NYE run (Dec. 27,28,30,31 or 29,30,31) in bay area, Kaiser? Cow Palace?
February	Bay area
March		East Coast Spring Tour

Jerry Garcia:
December 18,19	Warfield (JGB)
December 20,21  Warfield (Garcia/Grisman)


-Jeff Lester
**************************************************************************
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From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Digital Compact Cassette
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:10:57 GMT

I should clarify that the DCC players that support older analog cassettes
actually have half of a analog player built in.  (I understand it is
Analog playback of you analog cassettes).

Hypothetically it would be analogous to this.  Say you bought a 5 disk 
tray-like cd player and you could also lay a 12" LP  on it.  (sorta like 
the 5 disk players that also play laser discs).  The machine would come 
with a tone arm that would play the vinyl LP rather than use a laser.

(Hmmm maybe something bizarre like this could be marketted.) 
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