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From: jpk@freddy.inmos.co.uk (Jeremy Kirkwood)
Subject: Juggling Volleyball
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 17:57:29 GMT
 
        This is probably a FAQ but I couldn't see anything in the help
files on moocow ...
 
        Can anyone mail me (or post) a good set of rules for playing 
juggling volleyball - you know, the game where everybody has two bean bags
and an extra ball is passed back and forwards across the net, being juggled
briefly by each person who catches it.
 
        We were starting to make up rules like 'no smashing' and 'only two
touches on the same side' to try to make our version work.
 
        Thanks,
 
 
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>         Can anyone mail me (or post) a good set of rules for playing 
> juggling volleyball - you know, the game where everybody has two bean bags
> and an extra ball is passed back and forwards across the net, being juggled
> briefly by each person who catches it.

>         Thanks,

> :  Jeremy Kirkwood   |   jpk@inmos.com   |  jpk@inmos.co.uk     :


Well, here are the rules for the game Dogtoy! which was quite popular here 
at Grinnell a couple years ago.  As you can see, they are quite informal, 
and are played across a tennis net, instead of a volleyball net.  These 
rules were compiled by David Pollock:


DogToy!  

Created by the 1990 Grinnell Juggling Club
All rights reserved

DogToy! is based on a twisted form of volleyball.  DogToy! may be played 
with any number of jugglers, although the one player version can be quite 
frantic.  The official DogToy! rules are as follows:

1) A tennis net is used as a barrier between the two teams.  The boundary 
lines can be defined by tape marks, floor dents, squeeze-its, or any other 
vaguely visible indicator.  

2) Each player is given 2 bouncy lacrosse-like balls.  The server is given 
a third ball.  The server must stand behind a certain line if he/she feels 
like it.  The server begins to juggle, and after a modest amount of time 
throws one of the balls across the net.  The other team must receive the 
ball after no more than one bounce (unless they feel like two bounces) into 
a juggling pattern.  A juggling pattern is defined as a cascade or anything 
else that looks impressive.

3) Play proceeds with the players throwing the ball back and foreth until 
one team messes up.  

4) All throws must be underhand.

5) Volleyball rules are used for scoring.  The first team to 11 points 
wins.  A team need not win by two points, although that would be nice.


	Jody
	delong@ac.grin.edu
From: prestonm@cs.man.ac.uk (Martin Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Juggling chickens
Keywords: chickens, las vegas, los angeles
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:48:57 GMT

I vaguely remember seeing an advert for balanced juggling rubber chickens,
probably available from Klutz, and was wondering if they are still
available?

A friend of mine is travelling to Los Angeles & Las Vegas in a couple of
weeks and i would appreciate it if someone who lived there could tell me
a: How much the chickens cost for a set of 3
b: Addresses of shops where he could buy them!

email preferred! Thanks in advance

Martin

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From: davidw@fulcrum.co.uk (David Wilkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: sore hands
Date: 12 Nov 92 08:31:07 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <cf0Ewlm00WALI1k3gF@andrew.cmu.edu> as7l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andrew B Stellman) writes:
>I haven't had this problem, but I would suggest looking into the foam
>tape used to wrap bicycle handlebars. It's pretty cheap (under $10), and
>can be found at any bike store...
>
>Andy

I'm told by a friend who had a similar problem, that the tape you can
buy to put on badminton and squash racquet handles is just as good.
Equally cheap and available from just about any sports shop.

Dave W.




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Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Mon, 09 Nov 92 15:39:17 CST
From:         Andy Goldenhersh <C09875D5@wuvmd.wustl.edu>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: fire eating
Newsgroups:   rec.juggling

Hey Gary and Larry,

      I've been looking for fellow fire eaters for quite some time now.  I woul
d greatly appreciate any tips, tricks, advice, etc.  I generally work with
flaming devil sticks and am looking for more ways to spice up the end of the
routine.
      Any tips on blowing fire?  I'm still trying to tighten up my sprays.


                                  Anxiously awaiting response,
                                  Andy Goldenhersh <c09875d5@wuvmd.wustl.edu>

P.S. Any brilliant new devil sticking tricks or ideas?  Anyone?
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: tayer@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: (none)
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 09:45:32 EST

Does anyone (in Colorado, for instance) know if the Rocky Mountain juggling
supply people still have the note cards with island jugglers on them?

And, in response to the five-ball juggler from Monash University:
I don't like juggling tennis balls--they're pretty light and they
bounce out of the hands very easily.  Lacrosse balls are an option.
Five balls was a huge, grueling step for me, I think, and in part
conceptually.  I think just going at it may be the key, along with the
old standing-in-front-of-a-wall method, or perhaps thinking about
individual throws from each hand and what each hand is doing.  If
you're stopping at nine or ten throws because you think you have to,
try continuing anyway.  If it's actually falling apart, it may be just
practice. Then again, I may have no idea what I'm talking about.
       It is not assumed that a juggler can do five.  Most people are very
impressed to see it in real life and not in a show.  I guess they
think if you're not a professional you probably aren't that good.  I
will shut up now.

Toby (tayer@athena.mit.edu)
From: mss@endor.uucp (Marty Sasaki)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: sore hands
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:50:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Nov11.215044.27772
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sasaki Kite Fabrications

Be careful about adding padding to a cub. If it is too heavy, it will
unbalance the club.

I'm learning to juggle clubs using softclubs, which are made of foam.
I've been told that they aren't as well balanced as other clubs, but
hands don't hurt.

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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Record Breakers
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:28:32 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

Record Breakers is a UK TV show featuring succesful attempts to enter the 
Guinness Book of World Records (I guess failed attempts get left on the 
cutting room floor).  A friend of my wife tells me they recently had 
somebody on doing 9 clubs.  Can anybody confirm?  Who was it?  Was it Gatto, 
and if not, what has he got to say about it?


        Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty

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  D.Budd@mcc.ac.uk                                          fax 6040
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Cascade Juggling Program
Date: 4 Nov 92 10:56:48 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <9210291938.AA23358@clam.cis.ohio-state.edu> fayyad@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (elias antoine fayyad) writes:

>Does anyone know of a cascade juggling program for PC's?
>If not, how about any kind of juggling programs for PC's...?

3-ball Juggler
shareware from:
First Magnitude, 175E Alex-Bell Rd, Suite 220-316, Centerville, OH 45459
$15 registration gets latest version + 4-ball & 5-ball versions

Left to its own devices, it juggles various 3 ball patterns at random.

Choice of 4 jugglers: Caucasian male, African(Caribbean?)male, 
   ?(possibly Caucasian, possibly Asian)female, and a seal.
Ball colours and background colour/style selectable.

Built in documentation has adresses for Jugglebug, Klutz, Dube, IJA
Recommends the books from Klutz and Dave Finnigan

Tutor section goes from initial throw to continuous cascade.
    covers the basic problems beginners face
Tricks section demonstrates: half shower, ping-pong, reverse cascade, 
    shower, 2in1hand, columns, box, 3in1hand.
Game section lets you control the throws to some extent and has some kind 
of scoring system, but I haven't investigated this yet.  


My opinion: OK for $15, especially since that also gets you the 4 and 5 ball 
versions.  I haven't seen these yet: anybody else???


  There's wild bad drink in Tuam,  get that wasp off my sandwich
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  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033
From: ecarsten@next1.cs.umr.edu (Edward Carstens)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: sore hands
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:37:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: umr.1992Nov10.223723.9013
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

In article <cdm006-101192112526@145.1.92.113> cdm006@email.mot.com (Dick  
Magerl) writes:
 
> My problem is this: The handles of these things are wrapped with black
> vinyl electrical tape and are quite HARD. After a few tosses, my hands are
> quite
> sore becasue of the slapping of the clubs in my palms. My hands at one time
> were bruised so bad they were black and blue. 

You are not the only one to experience this.  You will find, however, that with  
more practice you will learn to catch the clubs without them hurting your hands  
as much.  I do know a few jugglers who use gloves but most of us don't need  
them.

-Ed Carstens
Creator of JugglePro
From: jsanders@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (John Eric Sanders)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: sore hands
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:54:38 GMT
Organization: Math Dept., University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign

In article <cdm006-101192112526@145.1.92.113> cdm006@email.mot.com (Dick Magerl) writes:
>As a neophyte juggler, I've just started juggling clubs after getting bored
>with tossing beanbags around. Not knowing if my already vastly improved
>hand-eye coordination was good enough, I purchased the least expensive
>clubs I
>could find, at least until I determined I could do this.
>
>My problem is this: The handles of these things are wrapped with black
>vinyl electrical tape and are quite HARD. After a few tosses, my hands are
>quite
>sore becasue of the slapping of the clubs in my palms. My hands at one time
>were bruised so bad they were black and blue. 
>

Sounds like Jugglebugs to me.

>Am I the only one with this problem?

No, cheap clubs tend to be hard.

>Will I eventually develop calluses (or what have you) if I stick with this
>long enough?

Nope--you will develop a soft touch to juggling.

>Are more expensive clubs padded to ease this problem?

The handles are softer on the professional clubs, and any plastic
is not as hard.  Consequently, they are less durable if abused.

>
>I've somewhat relieved the problem by wearing a pair of bicycling gloves
>which have no fingers and are padded in the palm. They look kinda dumb
>though.

Another option is to wrap the handles in padded tape, such as is used
on bicycle handlebars and tennis rackets.

>
>Any comments would be appreciated.
>
>Dick Magerl

No problem.

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From: rick@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Fredrick Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: juggling 5
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:53:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.7525
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Nov6.105728.6661@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> int281x@mdw026.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr S. Fox) writes:
>
>     problem is that I've been at this stage for quite some time and don't
>     seem to be progressing in a hurry.

I got to several dozen throws with 3 in a weekend.  It took YEARS to get
that far with 5.  5 is many orders of magnatude harder than 3.  Unless
you are gifted progress with 5 will be slooow.  Just keep your spirits up,
keep at it, and enjoy yeeaars of 5-ball juggling.

>     Also,  how many people can actually juggle 5 ?  Does juggling 5 put one
>     in an elite class or is it assumed of someone who claims to be a juggler?

IMHO,
3-balls -- juggler
5-balls -- serious juggler
7-balls -- elite juggler

>     balls aren't that cheap !

It's amazing what you can find in a toy store or child-learning store
for $2 apiece.  Just look around a little the next time you're at a mall.

Oh, I just noticed your address of *.edu.au.  Forgive my americanisms of
"$2" and "mall."  :-)



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From: scott@bell.b17a.ingr.com (Scott Bell)
Subject: Re: Need tips on winterizing an I/O
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:19:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.201526.9104@tc.fluke.COM>, ness@tc.fluke.COM (Jerry Ness) writes:
|> I just helped a good friend winterize his Merc I/O. He used to spend hours
|> pouring antifreeze into open hoses. I took a small (360 gph) bilge pump
|> and a short piece of hose with a standard garden hose attachment on the end
|> and hooked it to his flushing 'ears'. We had to tape a plastic bag to the
|> transom under the I/O to funnel the antifreeze into a bucket. The pump
|> sat in the bucket with a couple gallons of 50/50 antifreeze mix and we just
|> started the engine and ran it 'til it came up to operating temperature to
|> make sure the thermostat had opened. After the engine was up to temp he
|> started pouring Marvel Mystery oil down the carb until the engine almost
|> stalled, then he poured in some more until it did stall. That's about it!

      I've read( and seen ) some type of Oil/Gas mixture from OMC used to do the
   same. You pour it in you current tank and run it thru the engine. Supposed
   to stabalize the gas-oil mixture.
|> 
|> Your mileage may vary but we are sure every place in the cooling system
|> is filled with a good mix of antifreeze.

      Are you sure this won't have an eroding affect on your coolant system?
    I've heard that you should merely drain it completely( either thru a drain
    switch/plug or run slightly w/ no water ). My manual for my Evinrude 85 hp
    OB says nothing on winterizing the coolant system, just the feul and lube
    parts.

      What has everybody else heard/experienced? 

 Scott
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From: jcf24@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Holder 20 Experience?
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:09:00 GMT

>From: bwb1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (BRENT W. BENSON)
>Subject: Holder 20 Experience?
>Date: 3 Nov 92 18:25:57 GMT
>Organization: Lehigh University
>Lines: 7
>
>There is a Holder 20 sailboat available locally that I am considering
>purchasing for use on a lake.  From its lines and sail area it looks fast, as
>is claimed by the owner.  The bulbed keel winches up for trailering like a
>daggerboard, rather than pivoting like a centerboard.  There aren't many of
>these around here, so I would appreciate comments pro/con about this boat for
>use as a daysailor to be kept in a slip at a lake.
>Brent

   I have a Holder 20 I sail once or twice a week during the the spring,
   summer and fall here in Central Ohio.

   PROs
   Nice boat for racing (PHRF: 180) and occasional overnighting.  The *small*
   cabin sleeps three and has room for a portapotti.  Although I normally keep
   it in a slip, it trailers easily because of the retractable, 335 pound
   daggerkeel.  Weight of the boat is only about 1100 lbs.  Even with seven
   year old sails, this boat points amazingly well and does not have much of a
   problem sailing at 12-15 knots on a reach.  The deck hardare of Maxwell
   winches and Harken blocks is well laid out.  The addition of a bungy cord
   to the tiller makes it easy to single hand.  The ten foot cockpit
   accompanies 3 or 4 people comfortably.


   CONs
   I have found this boat to not do too well in very light conditions.  This
   is not a terribly comfortable boat for family sailing.  It is a racing boat
   with a couple of comforts of a weekender thrown in.  I am currently trying
   to sell mine and eventually move to a bit of a larger boat (J/22 or J/24 or
   whatever is mostly raced in the area in which I live when that time
   comes).

   Jimmy.


   OTHERS:
   OH, as long as I'm making one of my rare posts and at the risk of it
   being cross-posted to rec.old.beds.and.furniture.for.sale:

   FOR SALE:
	 1984 Holder 20    (a Hobie Monohull)
	 --------------

	 Features:

	    - Main, Jib, 140% Genoa, Spinnaker & Spinnaker gear
	    - 1987 4HP Mariner OB
	    - running lights on 12v system
	    - trailer
	    - Black anodized spars, 7/8 rig
	    - Self bailing cockpit
	    - 2:1 cunningham
	    - 4:1 boom vang
	    - 6:1  adjustable backstay
	    - mainsheet traveler
	    - hinged mast step
	    - jiffy reefing
	    - cabin cushions

	    - Summer/Fall 1991 BUC quotes low-high retail for this boat at
	      $3450-4050 respectively.


	    $2900 takes this boat, trailer and the many extras.

	       CALL: Jimmy at (614) 785-9378
		      (Central Ohio Area)

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From: legacy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (wayne.m.simpson)
Subject: Catalina/Capri Mailing list
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:17:50 GMT
Followup-To: wms@spin.ho.att.com
Summary: e-mail privately for more information
Keywords: Catalina, Capri, Mailing list


   For what it's worth, there is a mailing list for owners (and wanna-be
owners) of Catalina and Capri sailboats. The list has been in operation
for a little over a year. There are, at present, about thirty people on
the list representing ownership in many of the different classes of boats
built by the Catalina family of companies.
   The administrator of the list wishes to maintain a low profile, so if
you would like to be on this list, please reply by e-mail and I will tell
you how to join. If, for some reason, you cannot reach me by e-mail, post
a reply and I will send the info to you via e-mail.
   The list has traditionally been very quiet, with only a handful of
messages broadcast per month. On the other hand, more than a few of our
members have benefitted greatly from the list's experience in solving
Catalina-specific problems.
   If you'd like to join the list, or want more information, send me e-
mail and we'll see about signing you up.

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From: estemmle@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Ed Stemmler)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Ship Preservation
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:32:29 GMT
Organization: Univ of Penna

Hello!    I posted a note here last year regarding a program here in Phila.  My group, the Phila
Ship Preservation Guild, maintains and operates the Gazela a 177 foot barkentine, the Barnegat
lightship and a converted steam tug Jupiter.  We are always in search of persons interested in 
sailing, preservation and education, but we have a growing desire to increase our population of
engineers and machinists as well as learn more of publicity and fund raising.

Major projects recently accomplished on board Gazela was a 6 month drydock project that rebuilt
her stem and stern, replaced her diesel engine and mizzen.  She appeared in New York, Boston,
Newport and Martha's Vineyard for OpSail 92.  We're currently seeking funding for redecking 
her.  Projects involving the Barnegat include adding a belly band in a yard, restoring her main 
engine and 1930 era diesel air compressors, then redecking her.  

If you would be interested in more information regarding the ships or the organization, please write
to me.  I will provide brochures and locations for you.

Thanks

Ed Stemmler
Univ of Penna
estemmle@mail.sas.upenn.edu
From: jeffh@nonsuch.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Huntington)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Help!  Diastole diesel disaster
Date: 9 Nov 1992 21:14:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jeffh@nonsuch.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: nonsuch.ebay.sun.com

Bob,

I have been thinking on this some more and can think of no reason to remove the
sea water impeller.  Seems that is you keep sea water running throught he system
while you run the engine it will help to keep the exhaust system cooler.

Jeff Huntington
From: webb@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Thomas SM Webb)
Subject: Re: A true story
Summary: USYRU
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:48:40 GMT

>In article <1992Nov1.232847.12706@leland.Stanford.EDU> stefan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefan Michalowski) writes:
>
>   intention of letting me go by. When our hulls were only
>   a few feet apart, I bore off and said "Well?".
>   He said "Get out of my way!". I said "But I'm leeward 
>   boat!", to which he replied:
>
>	 "But I'm going in a straight line!"
>
>This is exactly why I ALWAYS stay well clear of other boats...sail or power.

Well, IMHO, if you were really within a few feet, and weren't racing
or friends or something, then you had gotten too close!  I'm not sure
from your description what the positions of the boats were, but if you
were overtaking then the Greek Fisherman Type was the stand on vessel.
Even if you weren't you should have taken action early, since prudence
is the key to COLREGS, when a corretion of a few degrees would have
spared you the whole incedent.  I've found that in fore and aft rigged
boats (the only kind I've sailed) it is a lot easier to punch up into
the wind to duck behind a boat then it is to bear off.  Anyway, why be
a stikler for the rules when you're day sailing?  

ciao,

-tom
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