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From: mpradhan@medicine.adelaide.edu.au (Malcolm Pradhan)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Has Tuneup v1.1 been withdrawn??
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:34:59 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Medicine, University of Adelaide

In article <7518@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> bakker@cs.uq.oz.au (Paultje Bakker)
writes:

>Why does System 7.0.1 need a tune-up in the first place? What horrible 
>things will go wrong if I don't use this tune up?

 Plagues of locusts, mysterious rashes in your nether regions etc etc.

 I only know of 4 things the tune-ups fix but I'm sure there are more. Firstly
tune-ups 1.0 and 1.1.1 fix the memory fragmentation bug caused by the
AppleEvent manager. This would mean that your largest free block of memory
would be smaller than the total free memory because of small non-relocatable
blocks (session control blocks) would be left hanging around.

 The other bug is with the missing folders of course. This is fixed in 1.1.1.
If you have disappearing folders the tune-up won't fix it but it will prevent
it.

 The LaserWriter driver in 1.1.1 fixes the TrueType bug in the IIf and g which
gave errors when printing more than 1 truetype font on a line or something.

 The new chooser frees up more memory if you are not using appletalk (about
200K or more). Something must have changed with FileSharing as that's also new,
but I'm not sure what.

 Overall, it's worth changing now that 1.1.1 doesn't kill my Mac.

 Regards,
 Malcolm
_________________________________________________________________
    Malcolm Pradhan
    Medical Computing, Faculty of Medicine
    University of Adelaide, South Australia
    InterNet: mpradhan@medicine.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: nickn@mummy.agsm.unsw.OZ.AU (Nick_Nikov)
Subject: MacX
Organization: Australian Graduate School of Management
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:39:17 GMT

Users,

Anyone know of the Australian distributor of MacX ?
Any other X products for Macs ?

Thanks

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From: ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au (Ian Hoyle)
Newsgroups: aus.mac,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Has Tuneup v1.1 been withdrawn??
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:33:17 GMT
Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories, AUSTRALIA

A co-worker here picked this up off compuserver:

>The following msg comes from Compuserve.  Pls take heed we've also 
>noticed some problems with it - disables floppy drives etc.
>
>>DO NOT USE SYSTEM TUNEUP VERSION 1.1
>>I received a phone call from Apple Computer Inc. ordering me to remove 
>>System TuneUp version 1.1 from circulation here and was told that they are 
>>asking the same of all the electronic distributors. I was told that there 
>>is a "major bug" in the release which can cause your System to crash 
>>under conditions of low memory.
>>I erased the file here within one minute of the call from Apple.
>>Software Licensing has promised we will have a bug-free version 1.1.1 
>>very soon. Meanwhile, we recommend you return to version 1.0. We truly 
>>apologize for this inconvenience although it was totally beyond our control.


Is there any truth in this?

I'd like some verification of this so that I can pass on the info internally
iff I know it to be accurate and not just a rumour,

	ian
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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: chooper@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Xwindows for Mac
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:05:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.120518.9197@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, nickn@mummy.agsm.unsw.OZ.AU (Nick_Nikov) writes:
> 
> Users,
> 
> What X packages are available for sys7 Mac IIs. Any comments would be
> appreciated together with costings and suppliers.

Someone posted on this back in March, so I thought I would share my
experiences.

I got MacX 1.1.7 last month and have had some success running Open Windows
(against a Sun) and Motif (against a SGI). Any X stuff over TCP/IP is easy. Our
VAX/VMS system also has Motif but I can't get it to work over TCP since it
works in a totally non-standard way. I have seen VMS Motif working using DECnet
but I'm reluctant to install DECnet on my Mac. 

On a IIsi with 5 megs of RAM and no ethernet, MacX is not really fast enough to
be useful. Generally, the performance of the IIsi leaves a lot to be desired.
I've had quite a few hangs during X sessions, but I have been unable to pin
them down. MacX looks like a likely cause though. 

One thing I found frustrating was the inability of the Mac to handle display
postscript and NeWS style information. You can run Sun's Answerbook but you
can't display the pictures because they are all done in postscript. Stuff like
HyperNeWS can't run at all. I guess this isn't part of the X standard but you
tend to forget minor details like this when you are used to a Sun workstation
as an Open Windows platform.

I am sure MacX would be quite ok if you had a Quadra with lots of memory and
you used Ethernet exclusively. By the time you've paid for that you may as well
go out and buy a Sun workstation that can handle display postscript and has much
more processing power as well. 

MacX is an Apple product. The University price is $295. Don't even bother about
versions prior to 1.1.7, especially if you have a System 7 Mac.

Another X package is Exodus from White Pine. I've had no experience with this
but word on the net seemed to indicate it was ok.

Todd
Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: asrgf@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Excel Version 3 real cheap!
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:28:01 GMT

 For Sale: I recently won a copy of Excel V3 for the Mac in a promotion.
Since I need the money I would like to sell it. It is the Academic version
usually sold for about $220. It has the warrenty card and all the software
and manuals still sealed. How does $110 sound including postage?
Please email.



Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: Martin B.Hill <Martin_Hill@qmcc.curtin.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Camera application?
Organization: Curtin Uni Computing Centre
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:18:04 GMT

There are two Camera examples that I know of, one based on Hypercard and
the other that comes as a tutorial example in Authorware Professional.  

The Hypercard example is available as a commercial product (or at least
the "send your money away for the full version" - type sharware).  I have
the free cut-down demo version.

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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Ken Taylor)
Subject: Re: Need .iff fileviewer for mac 11 si
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:04:52 GMT

com124j@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
: 
: Does anyone there have a file viewer for viewing .iff files on a apple mac
: 11 si.You can call me on (03)565-4788 or send me news.
: Thanks in advance,
: Michael Oldfield.@monash.Uni

There is a program called "Imagery" which converts most foreign graphics
formats into TIFF which can then be used in PageMaker/Canvas/PhotoShop, etc

It's available from archie.au in micros/mac/info-mac/app/Imagery*

Ken

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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: aus.mac,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Has Tuneup v1.1 been withdrawn??
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:53:48 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <ianh.703114397@morgana> ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au (Ian Hoyle) writes:

[CompuServe notice deleted]

>Is there any truth in this?

>I'd like some verification of this so that I can pass on the info internally
>iff I know it to be accurate and not just a rumour,

This is true. Tuner 1.1.1 has been released (I'm using it right now) and
the situation was covered by a front page article in this week's issue of
MacWeek.

Mark Johnson confirmed the withdrawal to me via email but I didn;t ask why
there haven;t been any ammouncements in the comp.sys.mac.* groups. There
might be a bureaucratic snafu at Apple?

Either way, Tuner 1.1.1 seems stable and fixed a couple crashing Macs we
had to remove Tuner 1.1 from.

-Geoff
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geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU  -  Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business

Contributing Dartmouth Alumnus
Date:  9 Apr 92 00:09:01 GMT
From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy.)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: (long)Re: School of Audio Engineering, Sydney!!!

gavina@otc.otca.oz (Gavin Abfalter) writes:

>c8906822@wombat.newcastle.edu.au:
>> 
>> Does anybody out there have any information or know anything about the School
>> of Audio Engineering located in Surry Hills, Sydney? If so, could you please
>> EMail me this information.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 		   David.

>Yeah David I know a little about the SAE. I started a course in Audio
>Engineerig this year and while shopping aroung for "the right course" for me I
>invariably attended a few studio's open days, the SAE being one of them (I am
>not at the SAE BTW).

>There are three schools that offer varying levels of course for those that wish
>to get involved. Don't be fooled by the "qualification" that you come out with.
>Quite frankly they could call it a Diploma, a Certificate, whatever, there are
>no guidelines or associations that these guys adhere to, or need to, so they
>can call the "qualification" anything they want.

    On the other hand :-) I have a musical friend at the School, who thinks the
    whole thing is perfect. I'll ask her to email you and tell you all.

--
-- Leroy@socs.uts.edu.au                    "Porn-o-graphic! Un-American Trash!"
                                                    -- Trailer, the Naked Lunch.
From: duncan@werple.pub.uu.oz.au (Duncan Robertson)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: join/start band in Melb???
Summary: I'm bored!
Keywords: noise feedback timewasters melody garage fun
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:30:54 GMT
Organization: Werple public-access Unix, Melbourne

Does anyone out there (in Melbourne) want to get into some sort
band type activity? Or even have a vacancy for a tolerably skilled,
but enthusiastic guitarist/bassist?

For what it is worth, I like listening to stuff like Nick Cave, Smiths,
Beasts of Bourbon, Swans, Clouds, MBV, Sonic Youth, Buttholes --
well you get the idea. But I don't want to be in some cliche 'indie'
band trying to clone the sound of the above bands.

If interested, reply here or call me on (03) 818 0194.
 
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: inas@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Cara Sergeant)
Subject: When did Rob?n join the Hummingbirds
Keywords: hummingbirds
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:01:56 GMT

there was a Hummingbirds clip on rage last weekend (I think
it was for Alimony) that had a male bass player who I haven't
seen before.  Who is this impostor?  I don't think it was a 
recent clip, and the song sounded different to the albumn
version.
  Also does anyone know when Robyn joined the band?

Cara...
From: 10702296@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (DECLAN MC)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Sound Unlimited Posse
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:03:59 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University

I've just heard S.U.P.'s new single, (I can't remember what its called 
though) and it sounds pretty dang good!  Does anybody know when they are 
releasing a new album..?

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: sraynerja01@cc.curtin.edu.au (James Rayner)
Subject: Clouds song  - REALLY
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 06:37:30 GMT


A couple of times when I've seen the Clouds in concert, they've done a song
called "Really".  I absolutely LOVE this song... Does anybody know if it's old
or new?  I was expecting it to be on the "Anthem" CD-Single, but was terribly
disappointed to find that it wasn't.  I REALLY want a recorded version - 
hopefully it will be on their next recording.

James.
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: paul@research.canon.oz.au (Paul Higginbottom)
Subject: Re: The Australian Record Companies' Latest Trick
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:50:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.012451.6522@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au (Robert
Pearson) writes:
>     The Australian record companies seem to have come up with a new
>marketing strategy to extract money from the record-buying public.
>This consists of re-releasing a (usually) big-selling album some
>months after its initial release with "bonus" live tracks added
>or an extra "bonus" CD with live tracks included. These live tracks
>are of course not available elsewhere.
>     This means anyone who wants the live material has of course to
>buy a second copy of the original CD thus doubling its sales. A
>nice ploy I think. 
>     So far I've seen this happen with Jimmy Barnes' "Soul Deep",
>Daryl Braithwaite's "Rise" and last night I saw that the "Real Life"
>album of Simple Minds now has a "bonus" live CD included. Anyone seen
>any others?

I've seen this with Sam Brown's "Stop!" and Madonna's first album to name just
two.  I'm sure there are many more that I've forgotten.

>--
>Robert Pearson,                     e-mail : pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au 
>School of Mathematics and Statistics,           
>Uni of Sydney N.S.W. 2006,                               
>Australia
>

Newsgroups: aus.music
From: raphael@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael)
Subject: Re: When did Rob?n join the Hummingbirds
Keywords: hummingbirds
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:14:00 GMT

In article <inas.702810116@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>
inas@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Cara Sergeant) writes:
>there was a Hummingbirds clip on rage last weekend (I think
>it was for Alimony) that had a male bass player who I haven't
>seen before.  Who is this impostor?  I don't think it was a 
>recent clip, and the song sounded different to the albumn
>version.
>  Also does anyone know when Robyn joined the band?

That'll be the original black&white clip for Alimony, the first of four
H'birds singles on Phantom Records before they signed to RooArt.

Robyn joined the H'birds soon after Alimony was released, so she didn't
play on the single or appear in the clip.  I don't know the bloke's
name, but I'll check my copy of Alimony.

I started following the H'birds soon after Alimony, after Robyn joined
and I read about them in the Sydney Morning Herald.  See you up the
front at the next H'birds gig.
-- 
Andrew Raphael <raphael@research.canon.oz.au>
    Oh! I see, it's your birthday.
    It's your big day, and I forgot.
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From: lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood)
Newsgroups: aus.music,soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Oz Radio (Was Re: CD's ?? Why so quick ???)
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:43:03 GMT
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia

renwick@milton.u.washington.edu (Jim Renwick) writes:


>No good radio stations in Melbourne?  Well, almost....  Don't forget that
>Melbourne is home to one of the world's GREAT radio stations, 3RRR 102.7FM
>(or at least it was when I was there in 1990).  What more could you want?

>Happy listening,
>Jim.

Yes, you're right, 3RRR is a very good station if you like alternative music.
So is 3PBS, another Melbourne non-commercial station.

The trouble is, neither station plays lots of fresh pop music because it's
too commercial for them.  And fair enough, this is
mainstream commercial music, and the commercial stations should be playing it.
They do in virtually every other major city throughoutin the western world.

But the commercial stations aren't playing it either (except
during countdowns) because they say it's not commercial (safe) enough for them!
So there is this gap in the middle which commercial stations should be
filling, but neither they nor the non-commercial stations are doing
anything about it.

Included in this gap is alot of good, worthwhile and popular rock music
that rock music lovers would like.  It's not just pop and dance music.
Our stations seem to play the safest rock and classic rock hit singles
over and over again.  They don't play any album oriented rock, and compared
to, say, the rock stations I heard in Auckland and Honolulu, their variety
is alot shallower (safer), ie, not as deep.

Liron Lightwood                     Internet : r.lightwood@trl.oz.au
Telecom Research Laboratories       Phone : +61 3 253 6535
770 Blackburn Road                  Snail : P.O. Box 249 Clayton 3168 Australia
Clayton  Vic. 3168 Australia        Disclaimer : My views are not my company's
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: raphael@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael)
Subject: Re: Clouds song  - REALLY
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:41:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.153730.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>
sraynerja01@cc.curtin.edu.au (James Rayner) writes:

>A couple of times when I've seen the Clouds in concert, they've done a
>song called "Really".  Does anybody know if it's old or new?  

"Really" isn't all that new.  I think it appeared in the Clouds set
during the first half of 1991.  Tricia Young wrote it.
-- 
Andrew Raphael <raphael@research.canon.oz.au>
    Don't cut your mind's wrist.
From: Steve.Roehrs@f861.n681.z3.fx.cec.edu.au (Steve Roehrs)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: JJJ - Hits and Memories
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1992 00:05:00 +1000

 > Nirvana are OK, but thats about it, OK, and their position in the top
 > 100
 > is futher indication of just how stupidly skewed the list is.

 > So who would be in trying to stack the voting for the next one?
 > Could be a lot of fun, and no more corrupt than the current mess. The
 > idea
 > is to run the thing as a caucus thpe of vote. We all agree to vote
 > here
 > for a set of songs, but agree to all vote for the finally selected
 > song as
 > a unit. The only prerequisite is that the song chosen should not have
 > had a
 > chance on its own, and obviosly be somewhat out of place.

Sure.  Pick the song!

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Steve Roehrs
9064107d@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au
except I haven't got post access so I'm doing this from home, at
Steve_Roehrs @ fidonet 3:681/861
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Newsgroups: aus.politics
From: Andrew.Robinson@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: a request of help
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 00:44:24 GMT

In article <996200223@peg> losway@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:
>
>I would like to think that respondents who take it upon 
>themselves to answer requests from anywhere in the world take 
>some care to check the correctness of their answer.
> 
>(Sir) Peter Abeles indeed!!
> 
>For the record, the right answer is on its way (plus an 
>apology).
> 
>peter w.
>

I thought it was a _joke_.  Abeles is chairman of a certain well known airline,
isn't he?

regardless,
&rue

Andrew.Robinson@anu.edu.au   <= forestry statistician 
(if it moves, count it; if it doesn't move then CHOP IT DOWN and count it.)
My employers don't care what I say, in fact I don't even think they know I
exist.

Newsgroups: aus.politics
From: Andrew.Robinson@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: a request of help
Reply-To: Andrew Robinson@anu.edu.au
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 00:47:46 GMT

In article <996200223@peg> losway@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:
>
>I would like to think that respondents who take it upon 
>themselves to answer requests from anywhere in the world take 
>some care to check the correctness of their answer.
> 
>(Sir) Peter Abeles indeed!!
> 
>For the record, the right answer is on its way (plus an 
>apology).
> 
>peter w.
>
I thought it was a _joke_.  Abeles is chairman of a certain well known airline,
isn't he?

regardless,
&rue

Andrew.Robinson@anu.edu.au   <= forestry statistician 
(if it moves, count it; if it doesn't move then CHOP IT DOWN and count it.)
My employers don't care what I say, in fact I don't even think they know I
exist.
From: losway@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: a request of help
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:50:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Apr1.175950.1681@csdvax.csd.:2003903347:peg:996200224:000:844
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!losway    Apr 13 19:50:00 1992


>I thought it was a _joke_.  Abeles is chairman of a certain 
>well known airline, isn't he?
>
>regardless,
>&rue
 
I had the feeling it could have been a joke - nevertheless, 
these messages go anywhere and whoever doesn't know about the 
finer points of Australian society could very well 
misinterpret the intent.
 
I speak from frustrating experience here: many times have I 
tried to get info on phone no's, fax no's, addresses, names, 
etc. etc. from supposedly reliable sources, only to find that 
they were outdated, negligently collated, or just plain wrong. 
These data are meant to be used here and overseas, and DO NOT 
give the best impression on what kind of a ship we're running 
here. 
 
It may be funny, witty, etc. - but it also wastes money and 
the type of humour is NOT the same everywhere on this planet.
 
peter w.  :-)
From: losway@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: a request of help
Date: 9 Apr 92 07:33:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Apr1.175950.1681@csdvax.csd.:2003903347:peg:996200223:000:283
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!losway    Apr  8 19:33:00 1992


I would like to think that respondents who take it upon 
themselves to answer requests from anywhere in the world take 
some care to check the correctness of their answer.
 
(Sir) Peter Abeles indeed!!
 
For the record, the right answer is on its way (plus an 
apology).
 
peter w.