From: Bob Gajarsky <gajarsky@pilot.njin.net>
Subject: [dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till): Re: I will, forever, truly hate the
        Toronto Blue Jays]
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:59:11 GMT

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From: dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till)
Message-Id: <9212141526.AA17838@silver.sni.CA>
To: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net
Subject: Re: I will, forever, truly hate the Toronto Blue Jays
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada

In article <Dec.10.13.26.36.1992.6621@pilot.njin.net> you write:
>>RP: Ward (trade, for Doyle Alexander, who was signed dirt cheap)
>>RP: Eichhorn (trade, for farm system products Myers and Ducey)
>the blue jays had him at one point, before trading him to the
> angels.  remember the 135 innings, 1.57 era? i don't know the
> exact numbers, but it was a killer year.

I remember Eichhorn's killer year quite well.  He pitched 157 innings, with
an ERA which would have led the league had he pitched five more.
(Jimy Williams apparently offered to start him at the end of the season,
but he turned down the offer, claiming that Clemens "deserved" the ERA
title more than he did.)

Eichhorn was not traded to California.  I believe he went to Atlanta first,
and was later released.  (He has had more lives than Morris the Cat.)

What's fascinating about Eichhorn is that he is constantly changing his
delivery.  In the minors, he was a conventional overhand pitcher, and then
became a sidearm pitcher in the mid-1980's.  Now, he throws about halfway
between sidearm and overhand.

>and don't forget, the jays will have in a couple years delgado behind
> the plate, martinez at third, and delarosa in the outfield, all
> out of their farm system, and they'll stll be contending.

As you probably know, the Jays are three deep in catchers behind Borders:
Sprague, Delgado, and Randy Knorr (good field, no hit).  I don't think
Martinez can play third, but they're going to give him a try, as there
are no third basemen at all on the roster right now (unless you count
Tom Quinlan, who can't hit).

The Jays have a good farm system (the above plus Rob Butler, who won
the FSL batting title and kept Delgado from winning the triple crown).
They will also have a whole lotta draft picks as a result of losing Cone,
Key, and whoever else goes.  The Jays may not win again, but I don't think
we're gonna be complaining much up here.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when Gillick retires, though...

--Dave Till

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