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From: peterson@choctaw.csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson)
Subject: Re: ancient ti portable pc query
Followup-To: comp.sys.ti
Reply-To: peterson@csc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:18:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.212730.15097@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, btcx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
|> please send any responses to this to carcich@cuspif.tn.cornell.edu
|> 
|> i am looking for information on a ti portable pc, model 2238675-0001,
|> specifically what kind of keyboard it needs.  should it take a standard
|> pc keyboard (it already fried one, so if it should, it's prob shot)?
|> it has a 9" integral monitor, 2 vertical 5-1/4" floppies, a 5 pin DIN
|> and a DB25 in the back (keyboard and printer?).
|> 
|> -brian carcich

  A standard XT or AT keyboard will NOT work.  You must have a keyboard
for a TI Professional Computer, or a TI Portable Professional Computer. 
The computer you have is a TI Portable Professional Computer.

  The 5 pin DIN connector should be for the keyboard, and the DB25 is,
indeed, a standard PC parallel port.

  This machine usually operates with a serial card specific to TI
Professional Computers, rather than an IBM PC serial card.  The latter
will work if you're understand exactly how to configure it and the
related software.

  Most other controller cards, e.g., hard disk, video, etc., must be
built specifically for the TI machine.

    Bob
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From: sds@cnmss.tredydev.unisys.com (Sunil Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: News
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:59:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Unisys Corp. cnmss.tredydev.unisys.com

What does the NeWs stand for? what is the characteristics of this system?
I used to be able to  run openwin demo's before, but now I get the message
"Can't contact NeWs Server". How can I get this fixed
Thanks
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From: jtien@venice.eng.uci.edu (Joe Tien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Sparc Tool question
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:00:45 GMT
Reply-To: jtien@venice.eng.uci.edu (Joe Tien)
Organization: University of California, Irvine

Hello,

I'm using the shade/cachesim5 and shadow/cachesim5 of the Sparc Performance
Analysis Tools as cache simulator. The problem is that the documentation
for these tools are very inadequate. Does anyone have any experience using
these tools? I'm mainly trying to understand the overall "organization"
of these tools, what exactly is done and how are different parameters 
determined (such as the random replacement policy used, etc.)

Email or post, your choice.

Thanks very much,

Joe Tien
jtien@balboa.eng.uci.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: maffeis@ifi.unizh.ch (Silvano Maffeis)
Subject: SIOCGIFCONF ioctl 
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 10:38:24 GMT

Hello!

I have a package which relies on the SIOCGIFCONF ioctl to obtain
the network configuration from an udp socket. On our Sparcs running
4.1.1 I get an "Operation not supported on socket" error, 
whereas the same package seems to work at other universities
running the same configuration.

our rc script sets ifconfig -a netmask + broadcast +

Any idea what I must do to have SIOCGIFCONF working on our systems?
Please e-mail directly to me. I'll summarize interesting comments.

Thank you!
silvano
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From: tim.meade%theweb@meaddata.com (Tim Meade) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: SYSTEM V FILESYSTEM
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Web BBS 1-513-436-9011 6 Lines 1200 News groups 50,000 files!
Reply-To: tim.meade%theweb@meaddata.com (Tim Meade) 

Requesting: information about the interface between the kernal and the
disk device driver in SVR4 (and also in Sun OS 4.x and Sun Solaris).
Specifically: just what calls does the kernal make to the device driver?

What we are TRYING to do is replace the standard disk driver with our
own loadable one: we want the kernal I/O requests to come to our driver
instead of the normal one.  So we need to know:  1) just what those I/O
request will be, and  2) how to get the kernal to direct them to OUR
device driver.

                                Thanx.  Tim.
                                                                                  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis)
Subject: warning: could not update utmp entry
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 17:14:27 GMT

A user just noted to me yesterday that when attempting to run "script",
the following message appears:

warning: could not update utmp entry

Script still spawns a shell, but the warning message concerns me.
Does anyone have pointers to information which can shed light on the
source of this problem?

We're running SunOS 4.1.2 on a Sun 4/380 with 56 Mb of RAM and 1.6 Gb of
disk space.

Brian
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: ytang@blue.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Yuan-Ling Tang)
Subject: Terminal mapping between sun-cmd and vt300
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:09:09 GMT


Hi netters,

    I know this is just a simple question and it may be in the FAQ, but
    after considerable amount of efferts, I just couldn't get things right.
    Sorry about this. My problem is I need to telnet from a Sparc-station 
    to DECstation, and the terminal type mismatching caused me lot of
    trouble, especially in using vi. The terminal type of Sun is "sun-cmd"
    and that of DEC is "vt300." The Sparc-station runs SunOs 4.1.2 with
    OpenWindow 3, and the DEC station runs Ultrix 4.2A.  Could anybody
    out there tell me how to set the terminal type? Thanks in advance.

-Tang
From: strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu (Nicolas Strobel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: remote Sunview Window
Summary: How display remote Sunview window on local machine
Keywords: remote SunView Window
Date: 3 Oct 92 02:40:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington


How do I get a program that creates a graphics output in a SunView window but is
running on a remote machine to create the window on my local machine and display
the graphics output on the local machine? Note that I'm not doing this with
X windows but, rather, with the SunView window system.

Please email,

thanks,

Nick Strobel
strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: rlink@cedar.hao.ucar.edu (Richard Link)
Subject: Re: troff/postscript viewer for openwin 3 ? FOUND!
Organization: High Alititude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:22:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.175926.21375@ncar.ucar.edu> rlink@cedar.hao.ucar.edu (Richard Link) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I'd like to preview troff files before printing. Does Openwin 3.0
>come with such a previewer? Or a postscript previewer?

Thanks to all those who informed me about pageview in Openwin.
Sometimes the documentation defeats me.


Cheers,
Rick
From: gdmr@dcs.ed.ac.uk (George Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: User's session with xdm
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:21:46 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University

In article <1992Sep22.101035.4261@desire.wright.edu>, zahabi@desire.wright.edu writes:
> So, to make the story short, is there a way to let xdm log and keep track of 
> the user's session in the wtmp file ? 

There are a couple of possibilities:

If you just want the start and end times for the complete session then you
could use the sessreg program which you can find in the xdm source directory
(<X11R5>/mit/clients/xdm).  If you don't have it already you can pick up
individual R5 files by anonymous FTP from export.lcs.mit.edu in
pub/R5untarred/.

If you want to log the start and end times of each xterm session the best way
is probably to recompile it (xterm) with -DWTMP and maybe -DLASTLOG.
-- 
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     Kings Buildings, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh, Scotland, EH9 3JZ
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: pjs@euclid.JPL.NASA.GOV (Peter J. Scott)
Subject: Re: SUN cc Optimization Revisited.
Reply-To: pjs@euclid.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA/Caltech
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:28:01 GMT

In article <1a0c3kINNm5g@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU () writes:

> main() {
> 	int i,j,ax;
> 	ax=0;
> 
> 	for (i=0;i<3;i++){
> 		j = ax * i;
> 		puts("in for loop");
> 	}
> }
> 
> It is my point to make sure everyone understands that the output of
> both results (j,puts) are constants, and therefore when optimized
> at level >= 2, the loop executes once, this is proper, why execute
> a loop that gives the same result three times when optimized.  Do not
> optimize and the output to screen reflects the nature of the code
> structure.

Ok, I tried this at -O4 and indeed it prints the line only once.
How come, then, when I commented out the line "j = ax * i;", it
then printed the line three times?  The result of every call inside
the loop (now only a puts) is still a constant, right?  By your logic,
then this behavior is an optimizer bug.  Either way, it's broken.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: Is HP server better than Solbourne server?
Originator: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:08:56 GMT

Hi,

We are want to buy a server to support our in-house development work
(about 5 users) and training classes (about 10 X terminals). Which
server is better, HP 700 or Solbourne 600? We can get a used
Solbourne server (about 3 months old) for $10K. I think HP would
cost us around $15-18K.

Please respond by email only as I don't have access to the hp
newsgroup.


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Software Engineer                     |         
SETT Inc. (Affiliated to EVB Software Engineering, Inc.)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: lar@ucs.usl.edu (Robert, Lane A.)
Subject: Re: PostScript and lpr
Reply-To: lar@usl.edu (Robert, Lane A.)
Organization: Univ. of SW Louisiana, Lafayette
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:17:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.135756.18366@informix.com>
paulwo@informix.com (Paul Wolmering) writes:

    i need to know if there is some filter program out there which 
    will filter the ascii from lpr and convert it to postscript. it'll be great
    if this "filter" could be integrated in the /etc/printcap filters.

We use a locally modified version of Barry Brachman's "lwf" program
installed as the "if" filter.  This way lpr will by default convert
the user's file to PostScript.  The "vf" filter is another program
that passes the input file to the printer without change; this allows
"lpr -v" to be used to print PostScript files.

    the end result is the "mp" users are happy and the "lpr" users get their 
    printouts from the postscript printers.

Unless the "mp" users forget to use the "-v" flag on lpr; then they
get a nice listing of their PostScript code :-).

"Lwf" is available in any comp.sources.unix archive (volume 15).  You
could probably use "mp" for the same purpose.

Lane
lar@usl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: jdell@benazir.mit.edu (John Ellithorpe)
Subject: Re: troff/postscript viewer for openwin 3 ?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:49:56 GMT

On 1 Oct 92 17:59:26 GMT, rlink@cedar.hao.ucar.edu (Richard Link) said:

> Hi,

> I'd like to preview troff files before printing. Does Openwin 3.0
> come with such a previewer? Or a postscript previewer?

> If not, could someone please give me the name of an ftp site where
> I can get one?

> Thanks in advance,
> Rick

I don't know about a troff previewer, but Openwindows does come with
"pageview" which is a pretty good postscript previewer.  If that doesn't work,
GNU always has ghostscript, which is a postscript previewer (and more, but
I don't know much more than that).

John
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: scj@spit.ctt.bellcore.com (Steve Johnson)
Subject: Re: SUN cc Optimization Revisited.
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:21:07 GMT

In article <1a0c3kINNm5g@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU () writes:
>This is in reference to the controversy surrounding optimization levels
>in previous post, I contended that the compiler is actually 'logically;
>correct in what it does.
>
>the original code submission is as follows;
>
>main() {
>	int i,j,ax;
>	ax=0;
>
>	for (i=0;i<3;i++){
>		j = ax * i;
>		puts("in for loop");
>	}
>}
>
>It is my point to make sure everyone understands that the output of
>both results (j,puts) are constants, and therefore when optimized
>at level >= 2, the loop executes once, this is proper, why execute
>a loop that gives the same result three times when optimized.  Do not
>optimize and the output to screen reflects the nature of the code
>structure.
>

(remainder of text deleted for brevity)

I would take exception to the statement that puts or *any* I/O should be
considered a constant by an optimizer, because the real world is not inherently
"logical."  I'm sure Stephen would'nt be at all happy if his payroll
department used the "logically correct" optimization to "puts" his
daily pay once instead of the (possibly) three days he worked this week. ;-)


Steven C. Johnson     scj@gamekeeper.bellcore.com
Bellcore (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Shared Libraries
Date: 29 Sep 1992 22:57:26 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com
Keywords: Sun 3/60, SunOS 4.1.1, X11R5 patch-level 17

In article <1992Sep29.213348.23410@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> astoker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew Stoker) writes:
>	libblah.sa.A.B
>	libblah.so.A.B		A.B. seems to be a version number?
>	libblah.a
>	libblah_p.a
>Next, which of the above constitute the shared library?  Is it the first two
>and the fourth?  What command do I use to compile C source into object code
>suitable for a shared library?  How do I turn my object files into a shared
>library?  And finally (that I can think of) do I need to keep the object
>files hanging around once this is done?

libblah.a is a normal library.  libblah_p.a is a profiling library, which
is used when you specify the -p option when linking; when you link with
this library, calls to the library routines will be recorded in the
file that gprof displays.

libblah.sa.A.B and libblah.so.A.B are two parts of the shared library, and
A.B is a version number.  libblah.sa.A.B is actually the same kind of file
as a .a file -- an ordinary archive library; it contains the non-sharable
parts of the library (initialized static data, generally) and is linked
into the object file statically.  libblah.so.A.B is the real *shared* part
of the shared library, which is mapped in at run time.

>This has initially been sparked by looking through X11 config files, and see
>definitions for having shared libraries (I guess I have), and building the
>X11, Xt etc. libraries as shared - what do I gain by doing this if at all?

There are several gains from shared libraries:

1) Saved disk space: Instead of copies of many of the library routines
linked into each program that uses them, there's just one copy.

2) Saved runtime memory: By using memory mapping, all processes that use
the same library routine actually share the same memory page.  Without
shared libraries this is done for processes running the same program, but
with shared libraries it happens across all different programs.  For
library routines like stdio and Xlib, which are used by many different
programs, this can result in a significant reduction in paging.

There are some problems, as well:

1) The granularity of sharing is pretty coarse.  If you only use one
routine from a shared library, you're still mapping in the entire page in
resides on, rather than just extracting that one routine from the library
(however, many Unix linkers extract whole object files rather than
individual routines, so it's not that much of a saving).

2) Some people claim that calls to shared library routines are slower than
calls to ordinary routines.

3) Shared libraries must be compiled into position-independent code, which
may not be as fast as ordinary code (perhaps this is the actual cause of
2).

-- 
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System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: jaa@su19a.ess.harris.com (John Auer)
Subject: Re: OW Snapshot printing problem
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:54:08 GMT
Organization: Harris Corporation, Melbourne, Florida

wjm@itd.dsto.gov.au (Wayne Mildren) writes:
: When printing colour screen snaps from OW's Snapshot utility it creates
: postscript files larger than 1Mb which fail to print to remote printers.

Do you have a ":mx#0:" entry in the remote /etc/printcap file ?
(You could use "mx#number", where number is in Kbytes I believe.)
This sets the maximum file size accepted by the remote printer
(Defaults to 1Mb).  I use Snapshot with a remote SparcPrinter
without any problems at ~2Mb per printout (OW 2.0).

Hope this helps.

John
jaa@mongoose.ess.harris.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: rlink@cedar.hao.ucar.edu (Richard Link)
Subject: Re: Software Support for Sun Clones
Organization: High Alititude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:10:46 GMT

In article rcw@caspian.cc.vt.edu (R. Craig Woods) writes:

>The buyers want some assurance that they are getting an equivalent system,  
>including the ability to purchase software support from Sun.
>
>The clone vendors are telling me, 'of course you can purchase support from  
>Sun.  We are selling you the Sun software and our machine is Sparc  
>compliant.'  
>The local Sun representative tells me the opposite, that 'in no way would  
>Sun sell support for its software running on a clone.'

And there are other annoying problems, like not being able to boot a
clone from a Sun CD-ROM, since the clone is looking for its own boot
info on the CD. The clone-maker response: we'll have our own version
of SunOS (4.1.2) *real soon now*.

This throws a wrench in our trying to upgrade to the latest SunOS
across our system. 

Harrumph!

Richard Link
Senior Physicist
Computational Physics, Inc.
2750 Prosperity Avenue
Fairfax, VA 22031
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:4541 comp.unix.wizards:4215
From: rcs08945@zach.fit.edu (Jerome Christatos /ADVISOR Clay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: SVR4 VM question
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:49:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.misc
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA


	Hello,

	I have one questions for the Unix SVR4 or SunOs gurus.

	It seems that in the function ufs_getapage()/ufs_vnodeops.c
	f the filesystem has a block size of 4k and the page (8k) is
	found in the cache , the second part of the page ( the 2nd
	block ) is always read in memory . ( although this section
	of code is also used for read-ahead when the block size is
	8k ). 

	Can someone confirm this ?

	Thank you.

					J. CHRISTATOS
				( rcs08945@zach.fit.edu )
From: erwin@trwacs.fp.trw.com (Harry Erwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: ZModem
Keywords: zmodem sun macintosh
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:39:37 GMT
Organization: TRW Systems Division, Fairfax VA

I'm trying to run zmodem on a Sun connected to a modem via an ISN port and
a twisted wire link. My receiving terminal is a Mac running zterm. I keep
getting CRC errors. Any suggestions?

...
-- 
Harry Erwin
Internet: erwin@trwacs.fp.trw.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: mtranle@paris.IntelliCorp.COM (Minh Tran-Le)
Subject: `top' program for solaris 2.0
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:42:24 GMT
Reply-To: tranle@intellicorp.com
Organization: IntelliCorp Inc.


Does any want know of a port of the `top' program from William LeFebvre
to solaris 2.0 ?

Thanks,
Minh Tran-Le.
From: slambert@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Fonts and x3270 for Sun SPARC 2 w/OpenWindows 2.0
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:59:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu



I am trying to run x3270 on my Sun SPARCstation 2 which is using OpenWindows 2.0 and SunOS 4.1.2.  Every time I do so I get the following warning message and then the x3270 window pops up and is filled with gibberish (various unidentifiable characters):

>> /lambert> x3270 cmsa
>> ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libXt.so.4.0 has older revision than
>> expected 10
>> ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than
>> expected 10
>> Warning: Widget class VendorShell version mismatch (recompilation needed):
>>   widget 11004 vs. intrinsics 11003.
>> Warning: Cannot convert string "3270" to type FontStruct
>> Warning: Using default keymap only
>> /lambert>

What do I need to do to get this working properly?  I think it must have something to do with fonts.  There is a font called "X3270.pcf" available off the server where I am getting x3270, but I don't know how to convert it to something that Openwindows can use.  

Warnings similar to the third line of the above message appear when I try to run other X11 R5 programs (such as xterm), but still run (somewhat) successfully (e.g., anything having to do with fonts is messed up, such as the ctrl-right mouse button option for changing the xterm font size).

I guess a broader question I have is how do fonts work and how can other fonts be installed when using OpenWindows 2.0?  This question is also important for me, because I also use a DECstation 5000 which uses DECwindows.  Sometimes I would like to display some of the DECwindow applications while I am at my Sun SPARC 2 console.  For example if I want to display a DECterm I get the following warning message:

>> X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string
>> "-*-MENU-MEDIUM-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-P-*-ISO8859-1" to type FontList, using
>> fixed font

The window still works properly, just the fonts are different than those I see when I'm on the DEC console.

I'm not very experienced with OpenWindows or Xwindows, so I would appreciate it if comments/solutions could be detailed and understandable by a simpleton like myself.

I don't read this newsgroup that often, so please e-mail replies to me directly and I will post a summary of responses.  If my questions would be better answered by posting this message to another newsgroup, please let me know this as well.

Thanks,
Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc