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From: jacobw@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Marge gets a Job - MISC
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:00:15 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Nov5.213614.10996@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>Refs...
>	Maggie being sucked into the fan (reminds me of Arno in Total Recall)
>	Empire Strikes Back (Star Wars II) - Theme Music
>	Ms. Wild Kingdom on Krusty's show...
>
>	Not much else in the ref dept. this week

Don't forget the Citizen Kane ref. In the Orson Welles classic, there's
a great scene at a party Kane holds to welcome a bunch of new
newspapermen to his paper. A bunch of dancing girls come out and sing a
song whose chorus is:

	Who is that man?
	Who is that man?
	Who is that man?
	His name is Charlie Kane!

This, of course, provided the inspiration for the dancing girls at the
retirement party. The rest of the song they sing to Burns is also much
like the song in Citizen Kane, but, alas, I can't recite either from
memory.

And I thought it was a pretty good episode, although a bit uneven.
From: parilis@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Parilis)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: DYNs for "Halloween Special" and "Itchy & Scratchy The Movie"
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:09:27 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <Jym.6Nov1992.1327@naughty-peahen> jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:

> =o= Didja notice...

> ** King Homer
>    ...that the "Dick Cavett Born" news item featured a photo of
>       an adult Dick Cavett?  (Cavett's birthday, 18-Nov-1936, is
>       mentioned on the _Simpsons_ calendar.)

Yes, but DYN that while the newspaper was spinning, it said "Woody
Allen Born", with an adult picture of Woody?

It wasn't Dick Cavett until the last 360 degrees of the spinning...

I've seen *NO* discussion of this.  I'm surprised at you people!

- Gary
From: nowikoam@ucbeh.san.uc.edu (Tony Nowikowski)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: "Stolen Kisses" Ref in 11/5/92
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:00:28 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <BxB7pz.34t@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
> mcadamw@coch1.alleg.edu (William McAdams) writes:
> 
> 
>>The scene in the nuclear power factory where Homer mails the
>>letter through the pneumatic tube is a direct ref. to a scene
>>in Francios Trauffaut's (sp.) film "Stolen Kisses"(France 1968),
>>even the music is similar. In the original film Antoine(sp?) mails
>>a love letter through a pnuematic tube and we follow it as it
>>travels under the streets of Paris. Pretty obscure reference, (late
>>60's French films !?!), I'd say. 
> 
> I thought of the "Monty Python's Flying Circus"  (That's MISTER Python!)
> episode in which Conrad Poohs (the guy with the dancing teeth) mails a
> letter, and we're treated to an animated sequence in which we follow the
> missive as it travels through the British postal system as viewed by
> Terry Gilliam.

Speaking of Terry Gilliam, as I was watching the convoluted path of the
pneumatic tube I was reminded of the ductwork from Mr. Gilliam's film,
"Brazil" ...
-- 

+-----------------------------+------------------------------------------------+
|  Tony Nowikowski            | Marge:  "Homer, that's dishwashing liquid!"    |
|  University of Cincinnati   | Homer:  "Yeah, but what are ya gonna do?"      |
|  nowikoam@ucbeh.san.uc.edu  |                                                |
+-----------------------------+------------------------------------------------+
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: SimpSyndication
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:30:01 GMT

Generally, production companies like to have five years (about 100 episodes) 
worth of a show before it goes into syndication.  
	Since Fox has already released the Christmas special on tape (how did
it sell?), I would think they would sell the episodes on tape before selling 
into syndication, because once it is on the air, anybody can record it again.
	I would bet that Fox starts releasing tapes at the end of this season,
or at the beginning of next season.

Torsten at Omaha
From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: MARGE GETS A JOB, OR
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:08:51 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications

In article <334.49.uupcb@hal9000.UUCP> douglas.kent@hal9000.UUCP (Douglas Kent)  writes:
>-> Bart showing the house:
>->   He must have made his top hat out of construction paper; you can
>-> see
>-> two pieces of tape he used to hold it together.
>
>He used the same homemade top hat in the Cable-Stealing episode.

Not a flame, but I find it humorous to think that bart could keep a
paper hat in new condition for more than 30 minutes. I'm not sure about
the time table on last night's episode, but his hand seemed to get
really grubby just for not washing it for a day. I watched that show
twice now, and I can't figure out how long his hand remained unwashed.

jam
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Date: 8 Nov 1992 16:00:36 -0500
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From: bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan)
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Subject: Re: Wondering about the 11/5 episode...

madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Gangster) writes:

> Did the school janitor actually say "tit" and get away with it?  =)
> 
> --
> Felix "The Gangster of Love" Madera 		 madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
> ============================================================================
> "They say, `Don't be afraid of flying...you'll go when it's your time...';
>  what if we're up there when it's the pilot's time...?" - Robin Harris

nay laddy, he said "teat" like a dog's tit...its in Catch in the Rye too, 
"it was as cold as a witch's teat"  course they want to ban that, but I 
think its accepted.

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From: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu (Gerald Ross)
Subject: Moe in the Moonlight? Anyone?
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu (Gerald Ross)
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:22:16 GMT


So what movie or literary work was referenced when
Moe ran across the screen wielding a knife in the moonlight?

Forgive me if this has been answered already :-)


Gerald Ross

     ...It's 1992.  So where's my jetpack?
From: baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: DYNs for "Halloween Special" and "Itchy & Scratchy The Movie"
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:58:01 GMT
	<Nov.8.21.09.26.1992.17645@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dep't., U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
In-reply-to: parilis@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 08 Nov 92 22:09:27 -0400

In article <Nov.8.21.09.26.1992.17645@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
parilis@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Parilis) writes:
>>    ...that the "Dick Cavett Born" news item featured a photo of
>>       an adult Dick Cavett?  (Cavett's birthday, 18-Nov-1936, is
>>       mentioned on the _Simpsons_ calendar.)
>
>Yes, but DYN that while the newspaper was spinning, it said "Woody
>Allen Born", with an adult picture of Woody?
>
>It wasn't Dick Cavett until the last 360 degrees of the spinning...

I noticed this (rather, I noticed something amiss and freeze-framed to
find out just what).  I assume that the original joke was supposed to
be Woody, but that it was replaced at a late date because of Mr.
Allen's recent, er, notoriety.  The extra baggage of all the recent
Woody Allen jokes would have distracted from the simple humor of this
joke.

I think Dick Cavett is funnier in this context, anyway.
--
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   _,_  J. D. Baldwin, Comp Sci Dept|+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
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From: baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Question about the Head...
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:22:35 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.simpsons
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dep't., U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
In-reply-to: dsimon@informix.com's message of 04 Nov 92 12:38:59 -0400

My own phonetic-compared-with-the-few-Central-American-Indian-god-names-
I-know interpretation is:

	Xtoploplctl.
--
 From the catapult of:              |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_  J. D. Baldwin, Comp Sci Dept|+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  U.S. Naval Academy|+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /   baldwin@usna.navy.mil   |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
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From: rcharbon@athena.mit.edu (Ray Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Marge Gets a Job
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:50:15 GMT

In article <1dcld4INNlgh@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, wizkid@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mike Fyrberg) writes:
|> I found this episode fairly boring.  There was no REAL humor involved in it.
|> The Burns/Smithers relationship was explained to all.  Simthers is not 
|> homosexual, as most thought, but merely sexually interested in Mr. Burns, this 
|> came as quite a surprise to me.  
|> I was disappointed to see that there was no reference to Itchy & Scratchy in 
|> this episode.  

Smithers is homosexual, he just isn't promiscuous.  Nit, nit...


-- 
Ray Charbonneau              | The fifth dentist makes all the money.
rcharbon@athena.mit.edu      |             -- me
MIT and the Library Systems Office are glad that I'm posting my opinions
here so that they don't have to listen to them anymore.
From: sminkin@BBN.COM (Scott Minkin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Looking for Mac sound of Homer saying "BDOOH!"
Date: 6 Nov 1992 22:38:03 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: sminkin@BBN.COM (Scott Minkin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

Does anyone know where I can find a digitized Mac sound of Homer
saying "BDOOH!" (pardon the spelling, I mean his usual exclamation of
frustration).  I think it would make a great Beep.

Thanks
Scott
sminkin@bbn.com
From: bob@yenta.alb.nm.us (Bob Knight)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Marge Gets a Job (11/5/992)
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:54:42 GMT
Organization: yenta unix pc, rio rancho, nm

tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice) writes:
>>--On the Smithers/Burns relationship: this episode has confirmed for
>>me what I suspected all along...that Smithers' view of Burns is
>>NOT a manifestation of a general attraction to men, but rather a
>>particular attraction to Burns.  In other words, Smithers isn't
>>homosexual, he's Burnsexual (or whatever).  The distinction is,
>>I think, an important one...as nonsensical alt.Simpsons hair-
>>splitting goes, anyway.
>>--Rich Stoller, Dickinson College

>I agree!!  He seems to really HATE Homer, as well as anyone else
>who at any point in time gets ANY attention from Mr. Burns.

>(By the way, that's a good word, "Burnsexual."  I like it.)

Or better yet, `Montysexual' (perhaps by analogy with Homersexual).

Bob Knight
bob@yenta.alb.nm.us
Albuquerque, NM
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 19:56:58 -0500 
From: "Adam K. Rixey" <ar2w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Miscellaneous other references and DYN's

Excerpts from netnews.alt.tv.simpsons: 6-Nov-92 Miscellaneous other
referen.. Mike Berman@psuvm.psu.ed (1361)

> (Has anyone else noticed a multitude of Mr. Burns/Citizen Kane references?)
> This has become almost a running thread (or should I say "threat"? :-})

	I noticed a MASSIVE reference a couple weeks ago but forgot about
posting it due to tests.  Now I remember - it was in the repeat episode
where Bart gives blood to save Mr. Burns' life.  When they receive the
thank you note, on the outside of the letter it clearly says C.F. BURNS.
 But isn't his name MONTGOMERY?  My guess is the C.F. refers to Charles
Foster Kane. . .

	- AkR
	- ar2w@andrew.cmu.edu
___
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From: rcharbon@athena.mit.edu (Ray Charbonneau)
Subject: This weeks rush of DYN's starts...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:00:01 GMT

While the moose was eating from Homer's trash, music form _Northern Exposure_ was
playing.

-- 
Ray Charbonneau              | The fifth dentist makes all the money.
rcharbon@athena.mit.edu      |             -- me
MIT and the Library Systems Office are glad that I'm posting my opinions
here so that they don't have to listen to them anymore.
From: tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Double-postings
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:15:41 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu



Uh...I must apologize for all the double-postings.
I'm mailing these (and I have a strange mailer), not posting...sorry!

Any flames can be sent to me, but I'll probably just get a complex.


-- 

"All the good signature file quotes are taken."

					-- responses to tina@rjlg.com
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: johnh@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (John Heidemann)
Subject: Re: Marge Gets a Job
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date:  6 Nov 92 22:18:04 GMT

wizkid@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mike Fyrberg) writes:

>The Burns/Smithers relationship was explained to all.  Simthers is not 
>homosexual, as most thought, but merely sexually interested in Mr. Burns, this
>came as quite a surprise to me.  

I don't know how everyone can conclude that Smithers isn't gay
from his daydream.  After all, when Hinkley shot president
Reagan to impress Jody Foster, I didn't hear anyone concluding
that Hinkley wasn't heterosexual, he was just "Foster-sexual".

   -John Heidemann
    UCLA Ficus Project
From: baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Marge Gets a Job (11/5/992)
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:34:34 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dep't., U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
In-reply-to: STOLLER@dickinson.edu's message of 05 Nov 92 22:18:26 -0400

wizkid@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mike Fyrberg) writes:
>I found this episode fairly boring.  There was no REAL humor involved 
>in it.

STOLLER@dickinson.edu (Stoller, Richard) writes:
>--My initial impression is that it was a very uninspired
>episode!

I was lukewarm toward this one, but one thing really stuck in my craw
and relegated it to a permanent place in "J.D.'s Bottom Ten":  the
lame-o ending.

Burns, in love with Marge, contemptuous (to the extent he thinks of
him at all) of Homer, reacts to Homer's foolhardy demand for an
apology and Marge's rejection, not with the same Burnsian wit and
cunning he applied to the "Tom Jones Problem," but by relenting and
bestowing on Marge and Homer the night of their lives.  TOTALLY out of
character for Burns, and the "So . . . you love her too," intended to
illustrate that Burns' (literally) black little heart was moved by his
love for Marge (cf. Sidney Darnay).  It doesn't wash--or, rather, it
could have, but it would take a bit more development and
justification.

The only realistic (i.e., consistent with the Simpsons world-view) way
out of this one would be to have Homer saved from Burns' wrath by some
incredibly lucky twist of fate.  (An alternative solution, I guess,
would be to have *Burns* reject *Marge*, but that would have to be
handled very cleverly, indeed.)  But to have Burns suddenly roll over
and make nice was really a deus ex machina.  The writers should be
ashamed of themselves.
--
 From the catapult of:              |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_  J. D. Baldwin, Comp Sci Dept|+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  U.S. Naval Academy|+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /   baldwin@usna.navy.mil   |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
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From: ema@netcom.com (Energy Management Assoc)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: marge gets a job, or whatever it's called
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:24:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <BxAp9n.4vB@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> pi@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert) writes:
>In article <1dckliINN6ci@cs.widener.edu> STOLLER@dickinson.edu (Stoller, Richard) writes:
>>that Smithers' view of Burns is NOT a manifestation of a general
>>attraction to men, but rather a particular attraction to Burns.
>>In other words, Smithers isn't homosexual, he's Burnsexual (or whatever).
>
>>Simthers is not homosexual, as most thought, but merely sexually
>>interested in Mr. Burns
>
>   Huh?  I don't understand.  Why can't Smithers' be gay *and* be
>sexually interested in Burns?  Using your logic, a guy like me who was
>sexually interested in a girl wouldn't be heterosexual!
>

I've thought that Smithers was a burnsexual for some time also.
I don't think that homosexual is accurate since I believe that if
Burns (and/or most CEO's) were women, then Smither's would be
heterosexual.  I'm not sure how Smithers and Burns initially got
together, but I think if Burns were a woman, Smithers wouldn't
be a homosexual or a heterosexual; he'd still be a burnsexual.

>
>>Finally, a severe weakness in the ending is that it's entirely unclear whether
>>Marge still has her job.
>
>    I think its pretty clear that at the end Marge does have her job,
>but that at the beginning of the next epside, she won't have a job.  Its
>like the house burning down.  Though maybe it was the cause of the
>broken water pipe washer that caused the sinking foundation?
>
>

After the episode, I thought this was the worst one to date.
But, after reading some posts, I remember some really good moments;
like the Curies and Homer thinking of retirement.
The ending was confusing and weak though so I have to say this
episode was the worst so far this year.

James Morse
From: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: GUEST VOICES
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:30:00 GMT
Reply-To: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

I just loved it in Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie, when lisa comes home
from seeing the film, and rushes up to Bart and says, "bart! You
wouldn't believe the people who did cameos! There was Michael Jackson,
and Dustin Hoffman! Of course, they did it uncredited."

(I may have the order of names mixed up)

This was hilarious, because Hoffman and Jackson did exactly that for the
Simpsons. Hoffman as Mr. Bergstrom (Lisa's Substitute [7f19]), and
Jackson as himself (Stark Raving Dad [7f24]). Although, Hoffman was
credited as "Sam Etic."

chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
                                                             
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From: thd3u@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Todd Henry Dejesus)
Subject: Re: Marge gets a job - more stuff
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:49:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.164912.20209@sbcs.sunysb.edu> wdennen@csws8.ic.sunysb.edu (William Dennen) writes:

>I believe the part when Smithers imagines Burn flying through his window
>could have been a reference to the movie GRAND CANYON where the Kevin
>Klein character dreams of the same thing (although, it was a woman 
flying through his window - or he flew through the woman's window).

>Klein was the one flying but he never actually flew through the window-
he only approached it.  Loved the Star Wars reference too.  :)

>
>
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From: JMB@USLVM.USL.EDU
Subject: homer the heritic
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:17:36 GMT

      i may have just missed it
        but i saw no discussion regarding
        god's closing remark to homer
                      mark bostick
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From: noel@umbc2.umbc.edu
Subject: Allergies and Seafood
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:04:34 GMT

	First of all, didn't Marge order Seafood when she took the kids to some 
seafood resteraunt ("Ahoy, this bites!")?  Oh, at least at the local 
"all-you-can-eat" seafood chains, things work like this:  You order an item 
all-you-can-eat a price X.  The waitress brings you a serving, when youa re 
finished she comes back to take your order for the next one (you can get 
anything on the a.y.c.e. menu that cost equal or less than X).

	But I digress.  I found it interesting that Marge is allergic to 
seafood.  I think its just shellfish personally.  I have a brother and sister 
who have allergic reactions to crabs, oysters, clams, shrimp, scallops; but NOT 
plain fish.  Altough my sister says her throat closes up when she eats 
shellfish, she has never had convulsions.
	[Medical side note:  If you have the above allergies, there are some 
medical tests involving iodine that you cannot take].

	Good episode, pretty realistic.