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From: tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Whoever dies with the most toys, still dies
Date: 4 Jan 93 02:45:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0B6Bq.J2t.1
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

>>>Vareck Bostrom
>>>bostrov@engr.orst.edu
>>>'87 Ninja 600RX '92 CBR900RR  NeXT Turbo Color  NeXT Cube
>>>'90 Nissan 300ZX '92 Nissan Pickup  '93 Beretta 92FS Centurion 9mm
>>>'92 IMI Desert Eagle .41 Mag  '92 Colt King Cobra .357 Mag
>>>'92 Glock 21 .45 ACP  '93 Ruger Single Six .22/.22 WMR
>>>AK-47  Colt CAR-15  Mossberg 500A 12-ga.  S&W Model 29 .44 Mag
>>>Savage 99 .250-3000  ...and other stuff
>JH:
>>Oh, my, I'm so impressed. Can I list my mint AutoMag 44, my Belgium Browning
>>12 guage superimposed Pheasant Grade, or my 1802 Walthrop derringer too? Not 
>>mention the Belgium Browning BAR in 30-06, or the Charles Daley superimposed,
>>or the Mirouku skeet gun. After your comment about the guy only having a 600
>>moto, I'd like to point out that if I traded you my weapons for yours, you'd
>>still have to give me your car, your truck, your motos, and your computer 
>>to make it an even trade. Actually, even then, you'd owe me about 10 grand.
>>So, don't pick on people because you think you've got more. Someone always is
>>around who can show you up. Now, piss off, mate!
>MZ:
>Don't you have to love it, -- a He-man pissing contest, with just the
>right amount of ironic detachment.  Well, I guess I'll just "have" to
>list my evil baby-killing laser-sighted semiautomatic 20-shot 7.62
>NATO SIG AMT (with four extra magazines), the surgically precise 9mm
>SIG P210, the 1918 9mm DWM P08, the commercial Belgian P35, or the .22
>Browning Medalist, the 7x57 FN M98, the .380 Walther PP, the stainless
>swimsuit special .32ACP Seecamp, the 7.63 CZ-52, or the FWB M65 Mk2.
>Then again, there are the signed Shinto jo-saku katana and wakizashi,
>the Randall #14 "Attack", and #19 "Camp knife".  Furthermore, I would
>have to keep up with the Joneses, excuse me, the Hamilstroms, by
>citing my Sparcstation and Sparcprinter, the GRiDCASE 1550sx (x2), the
>Quad/Meridian/Linn Sondek audio system, the hundreds of Pleiade and
>Studies in Logic volumes, the complete Bourbaki, and the unabridged
>Second Edition of the OED, plus the CD-ROM Robert and the unabridged
>Littre'.  Then there are the 1986 1000 Moto Guzzi LeMans, the 1980
>Ducati 900SS, and that ultimate in internal combustion genital massage
>units, the 1978 Laverda 1200 Mirage.  All that, and no desire to join
>the DoD, the ACM, the NRA, the AMS, the ACLU, the GOP, or the NSDAP.
>P.S.  Almost forgot to list a 1974 vintage, 5'7", 115#, nipple-length
>haired, exotic Oriental bimbette bedwarmer.  

I have ... a clue.

Tom

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  tp0x@cs.cmu.edu   |   Mr Ethical   |     Tom Price, Obscure Dropout
  1981 KZ440LTD     |    DoD #518    |  	  I'm the DoD.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Ride em Cowboy".
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:43:12 GMT

In article <viking.725701701@vincent1.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>
>>I say we put a private detective on her ass and expose her deepest darkest
>>innermost secrets.
>
>	She grew up in Denison, Iowa, a mere 100 miles from me and a town
>that has no redeeming qualities.  What else do you need?

Denison! Talk about a shady past.
I'll bet she knows more about pigs then.. then.. then a crack addict.
 
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 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
                                 doh#0000000005
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:04:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.195417.7320@sbctri.sbc.com> asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.190147.17320@spdc.ti.com> serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>
>(well-intentioned letter by Gold Wingers and Abby's moronic reply deleted)
>
>I agree with Serafin's suggestion to write to Abby to rebut. But avoid using
>the term "you stupid bitch". :-)

Yeah, be more creative. Something along the lines of "you frigid wench,
if you weren't such a mindless larvae of the politically correct
generation you would be able to see past the limits of your feeble
imagination into the minds of those responsible riders who are concerned
for the safety of their bikes and observers of same, and understand the
point."

For the humor impaired: :-)

-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
   216 years ago my government gave me certain inalienable rights.
     Since then, they've been trying to correct their mistake.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:32:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.013913.9438@leland.Stanford.EDU> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>In article <1hqiiqINNdjh@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU
>(Michael Robinson) writes:
>>Dear Abby instead used this opportunity to pontificate about the tremendous
>>social responsibility of owning a motorcycle.
>
>It sounded to me like Abby wondering to herself how
>motorcyclists can deal with the potential liability
>lawsuits.  I didn't notice any pontificating.

Err ... how about when she wrote, "Owning a motorcycle is a tremendous
responsibility" (or something like that).

The point is the *only* comment she had was to advise the biker to get
liability insurance.  In the absence of any other comments, I take
this to mean that it *is* the biker's fault if someone else gets hurt
while in the process of messing around with the biker's property
without permission.  Not a word about the messing around being a bad
idea, so I understand Abby disagrees with the letter writer and sees
nothing wrong with letting one's kids play on someone else's vehicle.

The only redeeming fact I can imagine is that the clipping we saw was
the result of some local editor's unwise decision to cut short the
answer to save space.  (They do have a tendency to just chop the
article short at the point where it runs past the end of the box.)

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: It's COLD, dammit!
Date: 2 Jan 93 23:10:26 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: thoth@uiuc.edu's message of 2 Jan 93 06:46:54 GMT

>>>>> On 2 Jan 93 06:46:54 GMT, thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) said:
Ben> ...my clutch cable is frozen.  Tomorrow I'll bring a hair dryer

WARNING!

Frozen cables are a sign that water has been trapped in the cable
jacket.  This can be the result of condensation and/or poor drainage.
If you get them free and go tooling down the road, evaporative cooling
can freeze them in "inconvenient" positions.  I have had throttle
cables lock up on me WFO and it is not pleasant.  This is how I
eventually solved the problem.

1) First, I removed and flushed the cable.  I used isopropyl alcohol
followed by a dry air stream to get all of the water out.  Attempts to
use oil or WD-40 resulted in trapped water bubbles which come back to
haunt me later.

2) I filled the casing with ethylene glycol with a pinch of free
radical inhibitor.  Commercial antifreeze concentrates would work
fine.  I then drained the extra and used graphite as a dry lubricant.
Attempts to use teflon sprays or WD-40 both failed because moisture
tended to bead and get trapped inside the cable sheath.

3) I rerouted the cable to minimize "U-traps".

4) Every once and a while, I add a drop or two of ethylene glycol at
the cable heads.

I have no idea what this "solution" will do to the cables over the
long term.  Next summer I plan to dissect a set and look them over.
In the meantime, I have not suffered frozen cable syndrome at temps
down to 20 F.  I am still waiting for really cold weather (below 0 F.)
to find out if the problem is totally gone.



--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide?
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:11:53 GMT

In article <BzB0BH.51K@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> crmoorle@napier.uwaterloo.ca writes:
>Has anyone out there had any experience with Nitrous Oxide?  

  If your engine is going to breath it, hang on tight so you don't
fall off. If you are going to breath it,  hang on tight so you don't
fall off.

Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
	"The only substitute for cubic inches is more cubic inches"
			Racer Brown  1954
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From: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: *BAD* Bike Purchase Attempt Experience in California!
Date: 24 Dec 92 16:45:51 GMT
Organization: pnet
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis) writes:
: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
: 
: > I'm going to go look at the Hawk GT again.
: 
: Good idea.  The Seca II is a `disposable', whereas the Hawk is a `keeper'.
: --

	Agreed, the Seca is a Recycled FJ in one of the ugliest bodies
ever dreamed of. 

	My buddy has a Hawk that he's put 20K on. Great ride. 


 ==============================================================================
  Erik Astrup                   DOD #683                            AFM #422

  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours *  1980 GL1100 Interstate

      "This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rtayloe@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert W Tayloe Jr)
Subject: Re: Tire gauges (was: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast...)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:28:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.153531.292@elektro.cmhnet.org> charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>
>By the way, I plan on introducing a "Super Precise Accurate Motorcycle (SPAM)
>Pressure System" (tm) meter in the near future.  It will be based on a 80586 
>notebook computer with 894 MB of disk space running AT&T SysV UNIX, so that
>all of the above computations are performed automagically.  Advertisements
>for this SPAM meter will be posted in the near future on a newsgroup near you!
>
>The SPAM meter will be availavle with a V32.bis / PEP option that will permit
>support of usenet online while riding.  Having this option will allow you
>to automagically create a post to wreck.moto to update the world on your
>latest tire pressure readings.  An EPROM can also be supplied that has your
>DoD number and .sig stored on the chip.
>
>The SPAM meter will post nothing but the latest *accurate* readings, to put
>to rest the contention that DoD is reducing the signal to noise ratio of
>wreck.moto postings.
>
WOW!  As a hawg ridin' yuppie, I feel duty bound to own such a HIGH-TECH,
gee-whiz device.  In fact I think that I'll get two of them so I can
constantly monitor both tires.  :-)


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Tayloe    rtayloe@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
 ------------------------------------------------------------------
  I wear a helmet when riding my motorcycle and bicycle because
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Need Honda GB500 Info
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 06:01:19 GMT

Can someone pass me some info on the Honda GB500 single that was made
a few years back?  A friend of mine is lusting after one, and I'd like
to know if there are any glaring weak points.

 Charlie Smith,    DoD #0709

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss)
Subject: Re: *BAD* Bike Purchase Attempt Experience in California!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 19:38:16 GMT

rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
>erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup) writes:
>>
>>	Agreed, the Seca is a Recycled FJ in one of the ugliest bodies
>>ever dreamed of. 
>>
>
>Agreed. The CBR900RR is for weenies without the will to buy the fastest
>bike in existence, the ZX-11. 
>
  I'd make some snide remark here about Seca II owners being wimps without
the guts to buy a 6oof2, but that sort of stuff belongs in r.m., which I 
no longer read read because it is full of such remarks... know what I mean?

>Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
>     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14

FYI, I think the Seca is a great-looking bike.
-- 
Ben Sloss        Email: ben@osc.versant.com   Work: (415) 329-7500 x172
Quote:          "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
Transportation: '83 CB650SC (straight roads) '93 CBR 900RR   (twisty roads)
		'91 XR 250L (dirty    roads) '87 Mustang 5.0 (wet    roads)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Protection for Your Bike
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:34:49 GMT

In article <carlp.725675697@frigg>, carlp@frigg (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>
>>I grew up in rural Texas near Plano (outside McKinney for the locals).
>>When we moved into our house in the early 70's the county Sheriff came
>>by to welcome us to the area.  Among his advice to my Dad was words to
>>the effect of "If you see anyone prowling around your house and you
>>shoot them, just drag the body into the garage so we can say he broke
>>in and there will be no questions asked."

>I know this is probably unnecessary, but it's my personal Mission In
>Life to disabuse gullible netters of this particular notion.
>This advice is something that is repeated so often, and is so
>completely and dangerously WRONG, that someone (Clayton?) should have
>a stock text to use for followup whenever it's posted.

Perhaps I should have included a disclaimer.  The story I posted was
not intended as advice, I had hoped that it would be taken as humor.
I don't recommend this activity to anyone, nor would I do this myself.
I posted this story as an amusing anecodote to Keith Schauer post.  It
did actually happen though.

--
- )V(ark)<  FZR400 Pilot / ZX900 Payload / RD400 Mechanic  DoD #400
From: wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Them winter woes and blues
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:25:36 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Well, I guess that's what I get for parking the bike for the winter (yeah, yeah
I know, who parks the bike for the winter ;-) Anyway, I went out to check on
her last week and a damn rat (I say rat because the amount and size of the
turds around the center stand had to be a rat, not mouse) had chewed up my
cover over the bike. So I check around the garage for tell tale signs of a rat
nest and find zip, nada, nothing ! ! So I figure, ok, I'll get those nice
blocks of rat poison and place all eight of them around the bike. So last night
I went to check on the bike and found more rat turds, but ALL eight of the
poison blocks were gone ! Now what gives ? ? This sucker immune to rat poison
or some super rat ? So now my plan of attack is another type of poison and a
large varmit trap. If I catch that sucker, he will wish he had never seen a
goldwing ! If it's not the cagers trying to kill ya, it's the varmits eating up
your wiring. No justice for the winter blues !

-=-=- Wes =-=-
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: I hate snow.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:51:03 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Dec29.145321.1427@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
|> I hate snow. It's been 5 whole days since I've been able to ride.
|> 
|> I REALLY, really, hate snow...
|> 8(
|> 

5 days?!?  sheesh.  it took me 15 minutes to chisel through the ice cube
that was my car after work yesterday.  if i'm lucky, i'll get to ride in
march sometime.

axel
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: It's COLD, dammit!
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 09:06:16 GMT

In article <ben.725957214@ipoint> thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
}    b) How do I prevent it from happening every night?  Should I
}       resign myself to a hair dryer session every morning?

Move somewhere that isn't so fucking cold. Or, to paraphrase the
comedienne from Minnesota I saw tonight:

"All of our family is strange. We can't help it; it's in our blood.
 I mean, think about who our ancestors are. These are people who
 came from Sweden and Norway, who overcame tremendous obstacles to
 get here. They crossed oceans and rivers and mountains and endured
 hunger and disease and countless other dangers; driven by their
 search to find the one place in all of America that was just as
 fucking miserable as the place they came from."

If your brain is already so freezer-burnt that this option doesn't
appeal to you, however, why don't you tell us where the bike is kept
at night so we can answer your question. If your bike is kept
outside, there may be little you can do in coldest weather -- in not
quite so cold weather you can cover it to keep dew from getting into
the ignition and then freezing. If your bike is kept somewhere wind-
sheltered, you might be able to do something like lining a ginormous
(giant + enormous) box with fiberglass insulation, rigging it on
block and tackle for easy raising and lowering, and use it as a mini
night garage for your bike -- tuck a low-output space heater in the
box with your bike at night.
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721			'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Re: Durability
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Keywords: why
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:37:09 GMT

In article <BzF1z3.J8x@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.150458.28795@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>'86 Renault turns 100k next spring, I'll invest $1k into drive axles,
>>new brakes (still on the original disk pads and second set of shoes),
>>struts and shocks, an 02 sensor, and a new interior light switch.

>Mine is an '85 Alliance and it's worth exactly what I paid for it: $1
>These things like to eat timing belts, and then (almost instantaneously) munch
>at least four valves before coming to a grinding halt.  Replace that belt and
>the idler pulleys (both of them) before the idlers seize and cut the belt.

>I did everything except head machining/valve installation myself, and it cost
>over $650 before it ran.

>CP "Frog Mobile Hater" Tomes
>Torque?  I don need no steenkin torque!!


Don't know why we're discussing Renaults (didn't they build a motorcycle
back in 19nn??) on this group, but for the Keeper of Renault Statistics
(KoRS), here's mine:

1985 Renault Encore (4-door hatchback)
just turned 240,000 miles
broadsided by a bus a while back, no injuries, replaced drivers side
  doors from a junkyard
broke the belt, overheated, warped the aluminum engine stuff, had it
  rebuilt
replaced CV joints several times, exhaust one, brakes etc. als required

BUT:

It starts right up on the coldest of days
Gets me to work and back as a second car (when wife has new Pontiac and I
  can't get GoldWing thru snow) which is a 55-mile trip each way!

However,

Headlight switch died twice, can't find anymore in junk yard (when I did,
  they cost $45 each >USED<), so i put a toggle switch on dash--DOWN=low;
  UP=high;CENTER=off.
Dash lights all stopped working (not burned out, once in a while one or
  another will come on momentarily).
Don't really need dash lights at night since speedometer hand doesn't
  turn anymore anyway (strangely, odometer is still working perfectly).
Horn (a function of the defunct Headlight Switch) doesn't work anymore
  (try to avoid horn-blowing situations).
No key for driver's door (remember, but hit it - I replaced it?); have
  to go to other side, lock it from inside, then lock other door.
Seats no longer adjust since I had to replace them when the old ones
  just wore out.

Sadly, State Inspection is due in February; if I can't find a friend in the
local garage to help me, guess I'll have to retire it.

ObMoto:  My wife hasn't been riding her 86 Shadow 700 for some time now,
         so I suggested she sign it over to our 25-year-old son who is
         commuting on a 12-year old Yama-something that occasionally
         just dies on the highway.  Surprisingly, she seems agreeable
         (his birthday is Jan 24, won't he be surprised!)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 14:50:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.040345.6873@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>
>OK, I'll bite, so to speak.  But before I do any serious bidding I need
>to know conditions of delivery, etc.  Will the item be delivered, or do
>we pick it up ourself?  Is said item in a "pre-removed" condition at time
>of delivery or what?  Bidding might get high for this item so I am sure
>you can see the point(s) of my concerns. :-)
>
>oh yeah, $6.50.

I will pay shipping, and will add to the donation as well.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Locking the rear wheel.
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:05:37 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University

>>>>> On 23 Dec 92 03:54:51 GMT, someone from somewhere said:
> Seems to me the best opportunity to practice this decidedly
> useful art (locking the front wheel) is to do it with training
> wheels to keep the bike up.

When filming the ERC video "Riding With Control", Ron Shepard ran a
number of takes skidding the front tire on a motorcycle so equipped.
The outriggers ended up digging holes in the pavement and he came away
with two sprained wrists.  Of course, the objective was to illustrate
the loss of control so no recovery effort was made.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.tech