HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Koontz Computer Predictions - Week 11
Keywords: computer, picks, predictions
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:43:45 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Time for checking my results...


In <1992Nov11.155447.20861@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh) writes:


>>Here are my picks for Week 11:

>>Detroit  10
>>Pittsburgh  9

>I still think Detroit's rating is way too high based on last year's
>performance... I say Pitt by 9

Pitt won by 3... 1-0


>>LA Rams  27
>>Dallas   23

>The Rams over Dallas? You've got to be kidding... Dallas by 12

The rams won 27-22... 1-1

>>Philadelphia  3
>>Green Bay    38

>When did Green Bay's offense get going and when did Philly's defense
>get *that* bad.  Philly by 4

the pack managed to win27-24   1-2

>>Phoenix  30
>>Atlanta  51

>puhlease... Phoenix by 5 [ i put the over-under at 28 not 81]

okay... okay... atl 20, phon 17... 1-3

>>Washington  3
>>Kansas City 6

>Yes, and no... low scoring game, probably, but i don't think *that*
>low... Washington has been managin to kick some long field goals and
>should score at least 12... Kansas 17, Wash 12

yeah!  kc 35 wash 16   2-3


>>Cincinnati  34
>>NY Jets     9

>Tough to call.  Two very erratic teams... I think the home team will
>win by 4... is NYJ home team here?

yeah! another right!  nyj 17 cin 14...  3-3

>>Houston    3
>>Minnesota 51

>NOT!... how about Minn 34, Hous 28

upset!  hous 17 minn 13...  3-4

>>New England  24
>>Indianapolis 21

>NO-ONE loses to N.E.  Indy by 12

i eat crow... ne 37 ind 34...  3-5

>>San Diego  28
>>Cleveland  27

>Charger Defense won't let the browns get close... but the charger
>offense won't let them pull away either... it could be close, but I
>say San Diego by 4 [over-under at 38]

yeah!  another right s.d. 14 cleve 13  4-5

>>Chicago    24
>>Tampa Bay  21

>good call... i agree

we're both wrong here... t.b. 20 chic 17  4-6

>>New Orleans  13
>>San Francisco 31

>same here... 49ers big... IMHO N.O. is not the powerhouse their fans
>are touting them as.

i eat crow again... but at least i got the winner correct.
s.f. 21 n.o. 20   5-6

>>Seattle    3
>>LA Raiders 31

>Seattle defense is better than that... Raiders by 6 [over-under at 27]

lar 20 sea 3... 6-6

>>NY Giants  27
>>Denver      3

>right winner, but not by that margin... how about Giants by 12
>[over-under at 36]

totally backwards... den 27 nyg 13... 6-7

okay... so i am 6-7 going into monday night's game... hopefully the
bills will win and i can break even this week... but your computer
predictions were 8-5... 2 games better than me... i still contend that
it is a fluke though...how often do so many upsets occur in one
weekend... this is the first time EVER that all of the NFCEast has
lost on the same day...



>>Buffalo    38
>>Miami      17

>miami will keep it close but i think they will lose. Buff 31, Miami 27

jason
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: 49ers beat Buffalo in SuperBowl
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:06:47 GMT

In article <1ekkctINN7ma@male.EBay.Sun.COM> 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon) writes:
>Joe Montana will finally come IR and lead the 49ers win over the Bills,
>Thurman Thomas and Ricky Watters will have a good game. But the Great arm of
>Joe will come off the bench to win his 5th superbowl and retire.
>
>
Are you a prophet or just dreaming? I will pray to the 
FOOTBALL GODS for this to happen, if not, it was not meant
to be. :-)
-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - Picks for Week #12
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:39:07 GMT

Week 12
-------

PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE FORM BEFORE MAILING IT!

Mail this form to davewood@cs.colorado.edu with the word "picks" in the
subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
your choice with an 'x' in the appropriate box.  Put your initials after the
word "Initials:" (ON THE SAME LINE!) at the bottom of the form.  If you have
questions about this form, send them with the subject "fbproblem."  If you
still need to sign up, YOU MUST SEND A SEPARATE MESSAGE with the word
"signup" in the subject line.  Do not reply to this message unless it is to
send in your picks.  See the Rules/Signup post for more information.

WEIGHTS: Assign 10 points to 4 different games.
	 Assign  7 points to 5 different games.
	 Assign  5 points to 5 different games.

This form is due at 10 am PST (5 pm GMT) on Sunday, Nov 22.  NO EXCEPTIONS!

DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE!

 WT  Away                       Home
*------------------------------------------------*
[  ] [ ] Atlanta		[ ] Buffalo          
[  ] [ ] Detroit		[ ] Cincinnati       
[  ] [ ] Green Bay		[ ] Chicago        
[  ] [ ] Philadelphia		[ ] NY Giants   
[  ] [ ] Cleveland		[ ] Minnesota      
[  ] [ ] Houston		[ ] Miami            
[  ] [ ] Indianapolis		[ ] Pittsburgh  
[  ] [ ] Dallas			[ ] Phoenix           
[  ] [ ] San Francisco		[ ] LA Rams    
[  ] [ ] Tampa Bay		[ ] San Diego      
[  ] [ ] Denver			[ ] LA Raiders        
[  ] [ ] NY Jets		[ ] New England      
[  ] [ ] Kansas City		[ ] Seattle      
[  ] [ ] Washington		[ ] New Orleans   
                               
Initials: 

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From: mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Aikman-He's no Elway
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:42:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Nov16.144217.3064
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


 Yeah, you got that right, Aikman is no John Elway and I wish we
 would have had Elway for the last minute and a half.  Dallas
 gets Shocked (BBBZZZZZZ!!!) by the Rams and loses for the first
 time at home since Sept. 21,1991, when the Cowboys beat the
 New York Giants.  Cowboys look in good shape though, the Eagles
 lost to Green Bay, the Redskins got tomahawked at K.C., and the
 Vikings lost to the Oilers.  San Francisco got the best of the
 Cowboy loss and are now tied for first in the NFC along with
 the Cowboys. Could be a rematch of the 1982 NFC championship
 game but I'm not betting on it.

 Speaking of the Rams, I knew all along they were going to be
 tougher than most teams because they gave the 49ers a hell of a
 fight in Candlestick a few games back, but give the Rams all the
 credit and it should be an interesting game in Anaheim next week,
 when the 49ers pay the Rams a visit. The Cowboys on the other hand
 have to go play at "THE TRAP" against a very underrated Cardinal
 team.

 Miguel
From: Dave.Alderson@newcastle.ac.uk (D. Alderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Setback
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:05:03 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU

Can any of the American readers help me with this one. I'm concinved that
some time ago someone told me there was a position in football called setback.
Is this correct? If so, could you give me some information i.e. names of
players, teams that use/d it, is it still being used etc. I'd be grateful
if you could send any reply via e-mail my address is:
Dave.Alderson@uk.ac.newcastle.

Many thanks for your help.

Go Packers - Superbowl '94.
From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Time out strategy
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:15:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <doetzl.722039868@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>, doetzl@rintintin.Colorado.
EDU (Joe Doetzl) writes:
>I'm hoping that some student of football strategy can answer the
>following question for me.  I've often heard announcers say something
>along the lines of Team A is going to use their timeouts before the
>2 minute warning so that they can use the 2 minute warning as an extra
>timeout.  I don't understand this strategy.  Suppose Team A has 2
>timeouts what difference does it make if they take both timeouts before
>the 2 minute warning or 1 before and 1 after or both after?  They still
>stop the clock 3 times.
>
>--Joe
>

It all depends upon the offense of the defending team.  You have to count on
your defense to stop the opposing teams offense, so you want to stop the
clock.  The two minute offense can be run in a couple of ways.  One theory, is
that you run a lot of out patterns, so it is easy for receivers to get out of
bounds and stop the clock.  The other theory is that you can save a couple of
time outs and run some plays over he middle, in case there is nothing on the
outside.  You get more time by calling your TO's before the 2 minute warning,
but the time keeps running if your players can't get out of bounds.  Different
schools of thought, different ways to run the 2 minute offense.  That's all.
-- 


Tom Schmidlin       DEEP THOUGHTS: By Jack Handey - I wish a robot would
TES0@LEHIGH.EDU         get elected president.  That way, when he came
215-758-0875            to town, we could all take a shot at him and not
                        feel too bad.
From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Whiners 21, Saints 20
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:07:02 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <By01w6.BxB@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...) writes:

>In article <1eej6oINN3dt@morrow.stanford.edu>, GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes...
>
>>With exception the the 4th quarter, the Niners did not play their
>>best ball game.  They showed up for 1 quarter and still won.  Do you
>>really think the Saints would have even had a chance if the Niners
>>had played their style of ball for 4 quarters?
>>I always give credit when credit is due. The Saints probably played
>>the best game I have ever watched them play. Unfortunately for
>>them, it wasn't enough.

>Get this bullshit out of here.  You insinuate that the Saints did *absolutely
>nothing* to keep the Niners from playing "their style of game," then go and
>say, "I always give credit where credit is due."

Didn't I say above that the Saints played the best game I have ever
seen them play?
Of course the Saints "D" had something to do with the fact that the
49ers only had 38 yards of passing at the half.  But the 49ers also
had something to do with those measly 38 yards.  Before I go any
further, did you see the game Chet? I doubt it since it was a
regional game, with you being back there in Buffalo and all!
The 49ers did not play their style of ball the first 2 1/2 quarters.
They played the Saints style of ball.
Sure the Saints disrupted them, but the Niners also committed stupid
mistakes. Lots of them!  Sorry, but the 49ers are capable of
achieving more then 38 yards passing in 2 quarters on any defense
when they are playing decently. When they play like shit, anything
is possible with them.

>"I'm curious as to why you think the Bills' offense is superior to the 49ers."
>                        --Tony Bechtold
>
>"I'm curious as to why you can't understand 34-31."
>                        --Me
>
>                                        ---Chet Zeshonski

How long ago was this posted?  Where does this even fit into the
discussion? Last time I checked, we were talking about the Saints
and Niners game.
Do you really think that the Bills offensive talent man for man is
better then the Niners?  With the exception of Thurman Thomas, I
wouldn't exchange any 49er offensive players with the Bills. Are we
going to get into another argument on how Reed and Lofton are better
WR's then Rice and Taylor?

                                                    Tony
                                                 GO 49ERS!!!
From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Scott Zolak and the Maryland QB Factory
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:21:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <27565@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day) writes:
>
>  Speaking of the Maryland QB Factory, there wer no less than 4 former
>Terp QB's starting in Sunday's games.
>    Scott Zolak - Patriots
>    Stan Gelbaugh - Seahawks
>    Boomer Esaison - Bengals
>    Neil O'Donnell - Steelers

And also Frank Reich as Kelly's backup. I am surprised that Gelbaugh
is still in the league, considering he couldn't throw shit during the
college days.

OK, so Maryland has five, what about the other QB factories?

Miami -- Kelly, Kosar, Walsh, Testaverde 
UCLA -- Aikman, Schroeder, Bono, Maddox
Udub -- Moon, Millen, Chandler, is Steve Pelluer still in the league?

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: greco@sun.lclark.edu (Peter Greco)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Niners squeak past Saints
Keywords: Young to Jones ... Touchdown 49ers
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:44:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov16.234405.14443
Followup-To: Niners squeek past Saints
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan) writes:

> What a pleasure it was to watch two teams play so intense and
> hit so hard that they don't have the energy to dance after every
> tackle or pass reception or ball carry for > 3 yards...

This occurred to me as well...especially with two of the last three games
against the Glanville led Failcons.

> ...The defense changed in the 4th quarter, tightening coverage and
> blitzing.  The defense shares the credit for this win, giving the
> ball back to the offense 3 times in 4th quarter after go-nowhere
> Saints drives.

Before the Choker (err...Cofer) miss, the D was on par with the
Niner's statistical ranking (defensively).  After the miss, the caliber was
good enough to take the Aints place statistically.  I watched the 4th qtr
over after the game.  I will probably watch it again tonight.  It seems
that the D needs to get fired up to play up to potential.  Here's hoping
that important games are enough of a reason in the future.

> Shanahan did a GREAT job adjusting.  I loved the Watters draw on the
> last drive, then going right back to him again for the 9 yard gain.

Yeah...it's hard to believe that we could lose Holmgren and not suffer. 
Shanahan puts the offense together well for Young's abilities.  Holmgren
did not do as well (though the speak has been that Seifert was interfering
and Holmy was not to blame).

> ...I think the Niners were very lucky to win both of these games with
> the Saints, who at this point of the season are every bit as good
> if not better than the Niners.  I fully expected two close games
> with a split.  Come playoff time, the Niners will be a better team
> than the Saints.

Hate to admit it, but after the failed drive to start the fourth qtr, I
was fighting the frustration that accompanies a sure loss.  After that
point, the "other" Niner D came to play.  Then Steve Young showed he
does have the ability to rise above hope and quarterback a win, where (IMHO)
he would have failed in the past (even as recently as last year).

Hats off to the Aints.  They are getting closer to earning the "S" :-).
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - Picks for Week #12 (REPOST)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:24:20 GMT

(results from week 11 still delayed...sorry)


Week 12
-------

PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE FORM BEFORE MAILING IT!

Mail this form to davewood@cs.colorado.edu with the word "picks" in the
subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
your choice with an 'x' in the appropriate box.  Put your initials after the
word "Initials:" (ON THE SAME LINE!) at the bottom of the form.  If you have
questions about this form, send them with the subject "fbproblem."  If you
still need to sign up, YOU MUST SEND A SEPARATE MESSAGE with the word
"signup" in the subject line.  Do not reply to this message unless it is to
send in your picks.  See the Rules/Signup post for more information.

WEIGHTS: Assign 10 points to 4 different games.
	 Assign  7 points to 5 different games.
	 Assign  5 points to 5 different games.

This form is due at 10 am PST (5 pm GMT) on Sunday, Nov 22.  NO EXCEPTIONS!

DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE!

 WT  Away                       Home
*------------------------------------------------*
[  ] [ ] Atlanta		[ ] Buffalo          
[  ] [ ] Detroit		[ ] Cincinnati       
[  ] [ ] Green Bay		[ ] Chicago        
[  ] [ ] Philadelphia		[ ] NY Giants   
[  ] [ ] Cleveland		[ ] Minnesota      
[  ] [ ] Houston		[ ] Miami            
[  ] [ ] Indianapolis		[ ] Pittsburgh  
[  ] [ ] Dallas			[ ] Phoenix           
[  ] [ ] San Francisco		[ ] LA Rams    
[  ] [ ] Tampa Bay		[ ] San Diego      
[  ] [ ] Denver			[ ] LA Raiders        
[  ] [ ] NY Jets		[ ] New England      
[  ] [ ] Kansas City		[ ] Seattle      
[  ] [ ] Washington		[ ] New Orleans   
                               
Initials: 

DID YOU PUT YOUR INITIALS ON THE SAME LINE AS THE WORD INITIALS???  PLEASE DO!
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: john@porta.b24a.ingr.com (John Nolin)
Subject: Lions QB situation [question]
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:55:00 GMT

What happened to Peete on Sunday?  Was he hurt or did he just suck?

Any insight to next week's Lion quarterback?

-John-
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Menu In Dallas Tonight... Crow
From: hilz@cs.arizona.edu (Eric J. Hilz)
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:00:58 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <JIM.92Nov15223311@scf16.scf.loral.com> jim@scf16.scf.loral.com (Jim Livesey) writes:
>
>   To all you Dallas fans who thought the Rams were a cake walk...
>
>  This Crows for you...

Mmmmmm, tasty.  Thank you very much.  Can I have seconds, please?

A 'Boys diehard,
Eric Hilz
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: GIANTS blow another one.
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:08:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <98859@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>satish nair writes: go giants
>
>to which joe dakes replies: and take the Jets with you.
>
>
>Kinda ironic coming from someone whose team is made up of ex-Jets.  So

Well, the JETS are a bunch of losers now. Picking the guys who could be 
winners and putting them on a winning team is also a talent.
Yeah, right maybe you shou;d take back Rich Kotite!!

>whaddya think, Ken O'Brien as the Iggles starter in 1993??

Maybe Rich Kotite for starting coach for the Jets in 1993.......
>
>satish nair
>
>
How come Go Giants is missing... Maybe they dont know where to Go...

Rajeev
A Scrambling Eagle Fan
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rules question (trivia?)
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:53:32 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov20.144504.14481@pellns.alleg.edu>, freshlt@quig14.alleg.edu (
Timothy Freshly) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.170524.19530@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>
>nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov18.200850.815@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>,
>piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL) writes:
>> >
>> >    You Make the Call:
>> >
>> >    It's first and ten at the 25. The Steelers are 25 yards from
>the
>> >    winning touchdown. Brister hits Foster for a 3 yard screen
>pass.
>> >    Foster scrambles down the sideline, and dives for the corner
>of the
>> >         end zone with the ball held close to his chest. After
>passing the
>> >    goal line, he extends the ball into the end zone from out of
>bounds
>> >    and lands with the ball in the end zone, and his body out of
>bounds.
>> >    The ball never passed over the goal line, but did end up in
>the end
>> >    zone. Touchdown?
>> >
>>
>> If Foster extended his arms into the endzone before he touched the
>> ground I would rule it a touchdown because he is still not legally
>> out of bounds and therefore has scored.
>
>
>       A la Jerry Rice several years ago in the Super Bowl.  He
>caught a pass, turned was hit toward the out-of-bounds, and stretched
>the ball around the pylon on the fair side.  No other part of his
>body crossed the goal line.  Result = Touchdown.
>
Isn't this becuase the ball only has the cross the "plane" of  the endzone?
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: drhall1@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Subject: Re: Broncos cream Giants Oakland next
Reply-To: drhall1@PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:15:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.092518.11496@csd.uwe.ac.uk> m_lott@csd.uwe.ac.uk (M Lott) writes:
>In article <cmlqf+_@lynx.unm.edu> metv@triton.unm.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Nov17.182452.28462@pts1.pts.mot.com> schw_mi@pts.mot.com writes:
>>>Yes, I said Oakland, the Raiders were and always will be the hated Oakland Raiders to
>>>loyal old Bronco fans like myself.  
>>>Michael A. Schwarz
>>>A missed place Bronco Fan in Dolphin Country.
>>>Go Broncos
>>>
>>
>>I must said the same to the Broncos.  I hate Broncos and always will be.  I hopeRaiders win this Sunday.
>>
>>GO RAIDERS! GO SKINS!  
>I must say your understanding of the English language leaves a lot to be desired (but then again you are a Raiders fan, so I guess you did rather well).


Can you understand "run-on sentence"? If you must post stuff like this, then 
try to spell "desird" correctly and write in complete sentences.:)
From: doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: JGH rankings
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:16:37 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Nov17.230434.16762@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>Ya know, I value the feedback I've gotten about these rankings.  I 
>fiddled with the program's parameters again this week and tried to get 
>them more in line with what people thought was right intuitively.  But 
>no matter what change I made in the ranking algorithm it lead to a 
>worse prediction record.  So I put everything back the way it was.
>Sorry Steeler fans.
>
>Cowboys remain at #1.  9ers back at #2 (up from #5.)  New #38 team, 
                                                           ^^^

>the Seattle Seahawks.  BTW, the Rams moved up from 20th to 14th place.
>

Sounds about right!  Is there such a thing as a Freudian typo?

-David Oliver (doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu)

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