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From: DWOLFF@RES-C4.PRIME.COM (David Wolff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: ELNA telefonnumero
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:07:48 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

Ryon Brame <ryon@support.avalanche.com> skribas:

> For more information, contact:
>             The Esperanto League for North America
>             P.O. Box 1129
>             El Cerrito, CA  94530  (USA)

The phone number given has an out-of-date area code (and a typo).  If you
have questions or business, try (510) 653-0998.  If you just want a free
information package about Esperanto and ELNA, use (800) 828-5944.  (Easy
mnemonic: "(800) TATLWIG" :-).  This is an answering machine, just leave
your name and address and the efficient people at the Central Office will
get stuff to you quickly.  (NB, only useful in USA and Canada.)

By the way, my machine crashed and died uglily over the weekend.  Anything
that anyone sent to me between Friday evening 7/24 and Tuesday morning
7/28 has gone to Bit Heaven. :-( :-(.

Traduko / translation / traduko / translation / traduko / translation

La telefonnumero donita estas malg^isdata (kaj enhavas tajperaron).  Se vi
havas demandojn au~ aferojn pri ELNA, uzu (510) 653-0998.  Se vi nur volas
senkostan informpakaj^on pri Esperanto kaj ELNA, uzu (800) 828-5944
(facile parkerigita kiel "(800) TATLWIG" :-).  Tio estas respondmas^ino,
lasu vian nomon kaj adreson, kaj la efikaj personoj c^e la Centra Oficejo
rapide sendos al vi informon.  (Notu ke g^i estas utila nur en Usono kaj
Kanado.)

Pri alia afero, mia komputilo paneis kaj mortis malbonaspektege
semajnfine.  Io ajn, kion iu ajn sendis al mi inter vendredo vespere (24a
julio) kaj mardo matene (28a julio) nun ripozas en Bit-C^ielo...

David Wolff

dwolff@RES-C4.Prime.COM

Disclaimer:  Reflecting Prime policy is a non-goal of this posting.
FreeAdvert:  Esperanto, the international language *that works*:
             Call (800) 828-5944 for free info package (US or Canada)
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KiboFodder:  nevax Kibo iye
From: jroth@dic.k8.rt.bosch.de (Jakub Roth. K8/DIC2. Tel. 1533)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: misdirected subscription => unsubscription
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:29:24 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

Could the owner of this list please unsubscribe me? I sub'd to this list
by mistake.

Thanks,

Jakub Roth

P.S.: Sorry for sending this to the list. There is apparently no
      listserv@rand.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
From: buxamusaa@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: For the ignorant:  What's Esperanto?
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:07:38 GMT


Was just looking through this news group and wondering what
Esperanto is.  Could someone tell me what Esperanto is.

Thanks in advance.

Anees Buxamusa
From: DWOLFF@RES-C4.PRIME.COM (David Wolff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: Internat'l travel: Questions
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:50:16 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

> 	I'm toying with the idea of going to the Universala Kongreso
> in '93, but never having been that far out of the U.S. before I'm
> not sure where to begin.  How does one get a passport to go to Spain?
> Where does one apply?
> 			-Jon

Hi,

If no one else has answered you, here's how.  Start at your local post
office by asking for a passport application.  They'll explain what else
you need.  (I think you need four identical photos of particular sizes --
a photo store can handle that --, a certified copy (or original) of your
birth certificate, and some bucks.  You'll only need these when you return
the application.)

The government will take a few weeks, possibly more, to process the
paperwork, so you may as well start as soon as possible.

Good luck!

David Wolff

dwolff@RES-C4.Prime.COM (works from most places)
dwolff%res-c4.prime.com@relay.cs.net (alternate)

Disclaimer:  Reflecting Prime policy is a non-goal of this posting.
Yesclaimer:  Esperanto, the international language *that works*:
             Call (800) 828-5944 for free info package (US or Canada)
Witclaimer:  Witty but very long saying condensed into a microdot: "."
Kibofodder:  ulaj Kibo tahe
From: cigno@sgi.com (Kevin Walsh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: E-istoj estu pli komprenemaj!
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:38:19 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


	Vere, Jose Manuel Martins estas gxentila homo kaj mi certe 
	gxojigxas ke li skribas al tiu-cxi novajxa grupo. 

In article <199207301537.AA23168@rand.org> jmm@ci.ua.pt (Jose Manuel Martins) writes:
 ...
>Cxu ne kompreneblas ke amo inter junulo estas grava kaj atentokapta
>temo? cxu ne trafas viajn mensojn ke tiom da am-libereco kune kun
>drogoj, perforto kaj mem-mortigo povas konfuzigi homon el kulturo kie
>rilato inter gejunuloj estas malpli libera, sed kie drogoj ktp ne estas
>"normalaj" aferoj? (almenaux la tieaj televidiloj ne montras tion ofte...)

	Miaj problemoj kun la skribado de Danielo estas ke li metas
	malpurecon kie mi ne trovas gxin kaj kie mi kredas gxi vere
	ne estas.  Danielo ne komprenas kiel usonanoj interreagas 
	tamen li jugxas nin.  
  
	Ofte liaj skribajoj enhavas tiaj senkoraj ideoj ke ili vere
	vundas nin kies amikoj mortis au mortas per AIDS au drogoj.
	Dum mia vivo, mi vidis kaj vidas ke estas la mondo kiel socio
	parolas pri gxi kaj la mondo kiel gxi vere estas.  La malsameco
	inter la du estas fonto de egaj problemoj.  Mi kredas ke homoj
	bezonas forlasi la pseudajn mondojn (la mondo pri kiu Danielo
	skribas) au ni neniam solvos niajn problemojn.

	Eble mi estas tro emociema pri tio, sed la problemoj ne estas
	nur interesaj temoj al mi (kiel ili sxajnas esti por Danielo).
	Cxu liaj amikoj mortas per AIDS?  Cxu liaj amikoj gepatrigxas
	tro frue?  Cxu liaj amikoj batalas kun memmortiganta uzo de 
	drogoj?  Mi supozas ke ne cxar li estas tiel malkompate al ili.

>Eble se la proporcio de cxinoj enrete egalus tiun surteren, la 
>"Gxenerala Sento" malsamus... Eble ecx la "normala esperanto" malsamus!

	Eble vi pravas, sed la malsameco ne estus pli bona.  Kvankam
	Cxina kulturo estas bela kaj antikva, gxi ne estas iom ajn 
	pli realeca ol la grekdevena kulturo.

>
>Bv. esti iom pli malfermitaj al aliaj vidpunktoj antaux ekataki "freneze".

	Tiel mi strebas.  Fakte, mi pensas pri la skribado de Danielo,
	kvankam mi kolerigxas per gxi.  Havi emocian reagon ne egalas
	al neaudo.  

>
>Atendante plibonigo de la monda etoso, via

	Kiel oni plibonigi la mondan etoson se oni neniam diras al 
	Danielo kiel malamplenaj estas liaj ideoj.  

	Mi kredas ke la neesprimata emocio estas veneno.
>
>Jxuze'  
>
>PS Mi ankoraux ne amindumis por li, nek defendas liajn ideojn!

	Nu, amindumi lau via placxo.  Eble Danielo havas siajn cxarmojn.

	Kiel mi diras antaue, vi estas gxentila homo.  Mi bedaurus se
	mia kolero vundis vin au Danielon.  Vere, mi ne deziras malami
	lin, vin, au iun ajn.  

	Mi strebos esti pli gxentile.


	

--
------
"I've always thought of Boston traffic as Brownian motion with
evil intent."  -- Don Coolidge coolidge@speaker.sgi.com
From: psavoie@generic.UUCP (Pierre Savoie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: I'm back
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:58:57 GMT
Reply-To: psavoie@generic.UUCP (Pierre Savoie)
Organization: Terra*Net Technologies Corp Toronto

read these newsgroups is that my local UNIX server's 19.2 kb modem did not
interface well with my 1200 baud ALEX terminal.  Those damnable things
from BELL Canada have problems interfacing with any real-world system.
In my case, it caused buffer overloads so that every line in the message
after the fourth became garbled, making long messages unreadable.
   But that's cleared up now, and people like Paul Hopkins who have been 

eager to contact me can do so at this address.
From: vnt@zet.spb.su (Vitaliy N. Titov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: iom pri la E-klubo en Sankt-Peterburgo
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:37:49 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Z Ltd


     Kara samretano,

     tiu c^i letero estas adresita al s-no Simon  Wood,  tamen
g^ia  enhavo  estas malfermita por c^iu kiu ricevos g^in.  G^i
iom rakontas pri la kluba vivo en Sankt-Peterburgo.
     La skribanto de tiu c^i letero petis min  helpi  por  pli
rapide liveri g^in al la adresato,  kaj por tiu  c^i  celo  mi
provas potencoj de E-Mail.
     Mi supozas, ke iu el vi scias s-non Simon Wood au~ log^as
pli proksime.

     Vitalij Titov <vnt@zet.spb.su>



---------------------------------------------------------------
      Sankt-Peterburga Esperanta klubo "Blankaj Noktoj"
---------------------------------------------------------------

                                  Al s-ro Simon Wood
                                  45 Harpenden Rd
                                  St. Albans
                                  Herts
                                  AL3 6BJ
                                  England

               Estimata s-ro Simon Wood!

     Bedau~rinde pro malgranda kvanto de la partoprenantoj  ni
decidis organizi la renkontig^on "C^e Finna Golfo" pli malfrue
(3-6.09.92).  G^in  planas  viziti  c^irkau~   20   homoj   el
Finnlando.
     Sed au~guste    (17-22.08)    estos    renkontig^o     de
SEJM-veteranoj  (SEJM  -  junulara  organizacio  en  nia lando
kunlaboranto kun TEJO).  G^in povas partopreni c^iu deziranto.
Se  volas  konatig^i  kun la plej aktivaj esperantistoj en nia
lando kaj se vi ne havas vizajn problemojn,  do bonvenon. Pagi
vi povas surloke, restadkosto estos ne pli ol 3 $ po tage.
     Ankau~ la 26-29an de novembro  en  nia  urbo  okazos  REU
kongreso (REU - Raslanda Esperanto-Unio.
     Se c^i jare Vi  ne  sukcesos  viziti  nian  landon  ,  ne
bedau~ru, sekvonjare  estos  ankau~  multe  da arang^oj kaj ni
c^iam g^ojas al la gastoj.  En 1993 somere en Sankt-Peterburgo
okazos tradicia renkontig^o "Blankaj Noktoj" (fino de junio).
     Se vi s^atas aktivan ripozon  kaj  gajan  etoson,  do  vi
povas partopreni OkSEJT-34 apud u.Smolensk. Tio estas tradicia
junulara renkontig^o kun ric^a  programo,  kiu  kutime  okazas
fine de  julio  au~  komence  de  au~gusto.  La plimulto de la
partoprenantoj estas  studentoj,  tamen  g^in  s^atas   viziti
diversag^aj homoj.
     Se vi bezonas oficialan inviton scribu al ni viajn:
     - naskig^likon;
     - naskig^daton;
     - profesion;
     - laborlokon;
     - oficon;
     - hejman adreson

     Prezidanto de la klubo "Blankaj Noktoj" Svetlana EJST

---------------------------------------------------------------
     Adreso:

     198329, Ruslando, S-Peterburgo, ul. p. Germana, 15-1-98
     h. tel (812) 136-02-29

Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
From: xeno@iastate.edu (Gary L Snethen)
Subject: Where do I sign up?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:30:09 GMT

Hello everyone...

   I've had an interest in Esperanto for the past few years.  My school's
library has only a handful of 1950s-60s books on the subject and they are
usually on permanent checkout by grad students (presumably foreign language
majors of some sort).

   I was in fear that the Esperanto movement was truly dying as everyone
I've ever talked to insists that it is.  I stumbled across this newsgroup quite
serendipitously...

   I would very much like to know of a good source of books and materials
(and hopefully audio-aids) from which I and perhaps a few of my friends can
learn Esperanto.  An Esperanto-English dictionary and grammar guide are
obviously very important, but also a source of reading materials...  What
magazines are published in Esperanto, etc...?

   Feel free to email this information, or post it here on the newsgroup.

I realize that this is probably one of your FAQs, but I can't wait for the
next posting of that...  I'm too excited... 8>

Thank you very much,

   Xeno
   (Gary Snethen)

   xeno@iastate.edu

P.S.  I think an interesting study would be to take a look at the number of
people speaking Esperanto as a percentage of the world's population.  This
would give a more accurate reading as to whether Esperanto is TRULY a
'growing' language or not.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
From: buxamusaa@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: For the ignorant:  What's Esperanto?
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 16:23:08 GMT


> Was just looking through this news group and wondering what
> Esperanto is.  Could someone tell me what Esperanto is.

Thanks to all those who replied via the net and directly to me about
my general query of Esperanto.  It was nice to receive such a response.
Some suggested that I should take a course of Esperanto.  I have all
the necessary information for this and might look into it later.

Thanks again,
Anees Buxamusa
From: 72627.2647@compuserve.com (Don HARLOW)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: What Is Esperanto
Date: 25 Jul 92 04:45:31 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

To: Esperanto >INTERNET:esperanto@rand.org

Dato: 920724

With respect to ELNA's telephone numbers (currently two):

>            415/654-0998
>(They also have a toll-free number, which I don't have on me.)

Actually the office number is 510/653-0998 (the area code was 
changed last fall, by fiat of Pacific Bell). The toll-free number is 
800/828-5944.The toll-free number is only for information requests, 
and when you call it you get an answering machine.

=============================================
Don HARLOW                                Redaktoro Esperanto U.S.A.
tel. (1 510) 222 0187
CompuServe [72627,2647]
Internet 72627.2647@compuserve.com

Por ni esperantistoj nacianeco               For us Esperantists nationality 
estas ne absoluta. Gxi signifas               is not absolute. It means only 
sole malsamon de lingvo,                       a difference of language, 
kutimo, kulturo, hauxtkoloro                 customs, culture, skin color 
ktp. Ni rigardas nin kiel fratojn              etc. We view ourselves as 
de unu granda familio "homaro".          brothers in one great family 
Ni tion ne teorias, sed sentas.                 "mankind." For us this is no 
Ekstere ni estas ligitaj de unu                theory, it is a feeling. On the 
sama lingvo, kaj interne de unu             outside we are joined by a 
sama sento. Ni ankaux amegas              common language, and on the 
nian propran patrion. Tamen tiu             inside by a common feeling. We 
cxi amo ne estas tia, kia ne povas           love our own countries, too. But 
kunstari kun amo kaj estimo al               this love is not the kind that 
aliaj nacioj.                                              cannot stand together
with love 
                                                                 and respect for
other nations.

Hasegawa Teru, "En Cxinio Batalanta"
=============================================
From: 72627.2647@compuserve.com (Don HARLOW)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: ELNA-Kongreso
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:35:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: CompuSer.920724053523_72627.2647_DHJ62-2
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

To: Esperanto >INTERNET:esperanto@rand.org

Dato: 920723

Inter aliaj decidoj faritaj cxe la ELNA-Kongreso en Berkeley, CA, 
cxisemajne estis la jena, kiu eble interesos retanoj: oni konsentis 
iom modernigi la Centran Oficejon de ELNA per havigo de 
laserprintilo, fakslinio, kaj modemo kun reta konto. Tio versxajne 
okazos iam en la auxtuno. Oni jam proponis donaci faksilon kaj 
modemon.

Du aliaj interesaj decidoj:

1) William R. Harmon estas elektita kiel Honora Membro de ELNA;

2) David Wolff anoncis, ke oni nun traktas aperigon de la "Comprehensive 
Esperanto-English Dictionary" de Peter Benson. ELNA espereble eldonos 
gxin iam dum la venonta jaro, depende de la havebleco de financado.

Pasintan vendredon oni okazigis la Ekzamenojn de ILEI-UEA cxe San-
Francisko Sxtata Universitato je tre nekutima horo (8a ptm gxis 1a atm). 
Sukcesis en la ekzamenoj la jenaj personoj: Antonio Leoni de Leon 
(Kostariko); Orlando Raola Gonzalez (Kubo); Joaquin Rosillos Vega 
(Meksikio); Art Carlson (Usono); Charlie Galvin (Usono).

=============================================
Don HARLOW                                Redaktoro Esperanto U.S.A.
tel. (1 510) 222 0187
CompuServe [72627,2647]
Internet 72627.2647@compuserve.com

Por ni esperantistoj nacianeco               For us Esperantists nationality 
estas ne absoluta. Gxi signifas               is not absolute. It means only 
sole malsamon de lingvo,                       a difference of language, 
kutimo, kulturo, hauxtkoloro                 customs, culture, skin color 
ktp. Ni rigardas nin kiel fratojn              etc. We view ourselves as 
de unu granda familio "homaro".          brothers in one great family 
Ni tion ne teorias, sed sentas.                 "mankind." For us this is no 
Ekstere ni estas ligitaj de unu                theory, it is a feeling. On the 
sama lingvo, kaj interne de unu             outside we are joined by a 
sama sento. Ni ankaux amegas              common language, and on the 
nian propran patrion. Tamen tiu             inside by a common feeling. We 
cxi amo ne estas tia, kia ne povas           love our own countries, too. But 
kunstari kun amo kaj estimo al               this love is not the kind that 
aliaj nacioj.                                              cannot stand together
with love 
                                                                 and respect for
other nations.

Hasegawa Teru, REn Cxinio Batalanta"
=============================================
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Humayun Ahmed
Keywords: Literature
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:15:31 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

mzi@troy.uucp (21311-iqbal) writes:

>I think I would have liked him even if he was not my elder brother!

Wow!

>Zafar Iqbal.

Can an "Iqbal" be a brother of an "Ahmed"? Pardon my ignorance, but is there
any strict concept of a surname among muslims? Most muslim names seem to be a
concatenation of 2 or 3 "first" names.

Sumitro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: hassan@bnr.ca (Abu Hassan)
Subject: Re: Debabrata Biswas
Organization: bnr
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:26:36 GMT

In article <84134@netnews.upenn.edu> sarkar@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Nilanjan Sarkar) writes:
>Hello ,
>	Can anyone give me some information about Debabrata Biswas'
>English Rabindra Sangeet cassette ? Specifically, has he recorded many
>such songs (I am aware of a couple) and if so, is there any such
>cassette ? Any pointer will be highly appreciated.

     I am aware of at least one English Rabindra Sangeet (probably you also
know about it) -- Tomar holo shur, amar holo shara. ( I have it in a cassette,
both the bangla andthe english ones ). I am not aware of any English only 
cassette by him.
>
>	Is he popular in Bangladesh ? Are records/cassettes from West
>Bengal easily available in Bangladesh ? Who is the most popular singer
>in BD nowadays ?

       Yes, he is one of the most popular singers in Bangladesh. Records are
not in great demand in Bangladesh (probably because few people have turn tables).
But there is a very big business of cassettes (I don't know whether this whole business
is legal - but it is growing over the years). These cassette stores copy you the songs
you want from the disc. This is the most common way of getting Indian songs and music.
Usuually most of the releases are available without any delay (like Puja releases).

     As regards popular singer, Rizwana Chowdhury is a very popular Rabinra Sangeet shilpi.
I heard that she is equally popular in West Bengal. Among the modern singers there are a few
like Shuvra Dev, Baby Naznin, Adnan Babu. Of course, here I am talking about the rising
"stars' of modern songs, not the already established ones like Sabina Yasmin, Runa Laila
(she lives in Sweden with her Swedish (?) husband these days), or Shahnaz Rahmatullah.
In Nazrul Geeti, I heard Shabnam Mustari, Fatematuzzohra are doing well. There are some 
recently popular bands as well. But I am not the right person to comment on that.
>	
>	Thanks.

Abu Hassan
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Filmi Opinions ...
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:43:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 Saalam Waleikum,

  I have a question: how many of you find Satyajit Ray a great film-maker ?
  To be more specific, is he (Ray) as competent as Kurosawa, Bergmann, Kubrik
  or Trauffaut ?

  My point: Ray is a great artist. However, he does not have as great appeal in
  his films as Kurosawa. He is certainly greater than Trauffaut. (By appeal, I
  mean forcefulness.)   

  Regarding in comparsion with Ray, Sen and Gathak, I would choose to place
  the order (with much trepidation) as:

  Gathak, Ray, Sen.

  Agree or disagree ? IMHO, Ray's best film: Araynner-din-Raatri.

  - khoda hafez,

   deb chatterjee
 (a good samaritan)
From: dipen@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov ( Dipen Bhattacharya)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Bangladesh and the Olympics?
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:21:55 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center


	Zunaid writes:

>The swimmer is actually Mohammed Mukhlesur Rahim. From what my vague
>recollections can recall he is either from BTMC or Navy. I will put
>my money on Navy. Why is he a no show? Did the Bangladesh team actually
>make it to Barcelone?

	Isn't it Mukhlesur Rahman? Anyway, I saw him proudly carrying the
flag during the opening ceremony along with a few others, maybe five
or six (including, one sari-clad woman). What happened to him, didn't
even start?

>Zunaid Kazi

	Dipen
From: imgt3541@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Hello from Louisiana
Date: 21 Jul 92 00:44:22 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

Hi everybody,

apnader shuvecha janachee Louisiana thekee. This is my first time
on this group. I think it's fun & I'll be looking forward to hear from
you guys soon.

Adnan Haq
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh