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From: ti_hunt@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: AC/DC: Angus's dollars wanted!
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:57:46 GMT
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <lopi.721135796@dipisa.di.unipi.it>, lopi@di.unipi.it (Lopi) writes:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm desperately looking for an Angus's dollar, AC/DC threw a lot of such 
> dollars in their shows ,but unluckly I didn't go to anyone of them :(
> If you did and collected some of these dollars, please could you send one to me?
> 
> I will be infinitely grateful...
> I will exchange it with posters or other AC/DC stuff, if you want...
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> 	Fabio
> 
> My address is:
> 
> 		Fabio Lopiano
> 		Casa dello Studente "P.Thouar"
> 		Piazza San Silvestro, 12
> 				56100 Pisa
> 				ITALY
> 
Hey Fabio-
If you can, pick up the new live AC/DC collectors album. It's a double CD and
it has a pull out poster and a AC/DC dollar bill in it too.

-Taz
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler)
Subject: New bonsai owner! [i hope]
Organization: /usr/users/user4/mappler/.organization
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:58:06 GMT

Well, some of you may have seen me posting before, asking about my
girlfriends bonsai.  Well, I have just purchased a bonsai starter kit.
ie: it is a little cup of dirt and some seeds in it.  It is a Japanese
Black Pine, or so the box says.  It has VERY sketchy instructions for
care, 1 photocopied page.  My girlfriend has had her bonsai for 1 year
now, so I am pretty well versed in day to day care of a mature bonsai.
But, what do I need to know for germination and things like that?  Any
help would be appreciated.  

  Thank you very much,
    Matthew Appler
--
Matthew Appler - University of Massachusetts, Amherst
-----
You can only be young once, but you can always be immature.
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From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Thomas McCabe Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Bonsai Convention in No. CA (longish)
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:24:13 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com

Okay, Mike asked 'how was your weekend', so...(blame mike for this!) 

I attended my first Bonsai Convention on Saturday in Sacramento, CA.

This event went on from Thursday morning 'til Sunday afternoon. 

They had an exhibition hall with about 40-50 specimens displayed that was
really well done.  Mostly mature trees... lots of maples, pines, and shimpaku.

.. and down the hall a Bazaar where all kinds of stock, trees, pots, tools, etc
were available for sale (I got a small Kingsville Boxwood - possibly the strongest 
of the "indoor/outdoor" trees, and the only truly "american" tree that is in favor
with bonsai practitioners).  All kinds of prices and styles... beginner (and thus 
inexpensive) to VERY experienced (with lots of $$$).

In the next set of rooms, they had stuff displayed for daily drawings.  A variety 
of bonsai stock, a few 'finished' trees, but mostly pots, tools, books, etc. that
were donated by individuals or clubs.  If you chose to, you purchased tickets and 
dropped them in to specific buckets for drawings that were done daily...
One of the items was a juniper (about 12" diameter), aged and styled exquisitely,
in a pot that was (obviously) quite large.  That one was $5 a ticket, while the rest
were $1 a ticket.

Other attractions:

Each day, there were workshops - you paid a fee (it varied) and that included stock,
soil, pot, and instruction for the technique or tree you signed up for.  Example...
my instructor sold 10 seats in his wrkshop for $155 each. The attendees got a 12 yr
old blck pine that John had grown from seed, and 3 hours of instruction on repotting,
styling, and care of the tree.   (the tree alone, is probably worth that much)

Last... on saturday, the event of note was a "round-up"... in the large hall they set
up 12 "demonstrations"... each lasted two hours and was done twice.  All were going on
simultaneously...  again, you could pay a fee and get stock/soil/etc, and instruction 
for two hours, OR you could just walk around and watc. There were REALLY some of the 
most famous Bonsai Teachers on the west coast in attendence (plus two just back
from several years in Japan). 
Demo topics	Juniper Design (very large, older trees only...your tree)
		Slab plantings
		Landscape planting (saikei)
		Trunk spliting (two trees from one.. this was almost painful to watch)
		Azalea repotting and training
		Making your own pots
		Displaying bonsai
		Shaping and Aging (juniper and redwoods...about 2" diameters)
		Accent plants and planting/arranging
		Chinese Sweet Plum group planting
		and a couple more... 

((There was alot more going on over the four days... this is "highlights" only))

What I learned?  Next time, I'll sign up for at least one workshop, and one demo, and
go for a longer visit than one partial day. (I don't know if I won any of the drawings
yet... I'll find out in class next monday).

Tk
From: rkn@Apple.COM (Richard K. Nordin)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: Good Books
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:41:54 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1dc5bmINN9g@male.EBay.Sun.COM> tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>
>Book Recommendations:
>
>	Bonsai Techniques I  (the author's name is simailr to Naja or Naga)
>	(this is a terrific step by step book on most of the things I needed
>	 to learn the first two years - wiring, watering, different planting
>	 techniques, propagation techniques... simple steps, clearly written
>	 and with small pictures to highlight the steps)

John Yoshio Naka

Published for:
Bonsai Institute of California
PO Box 78211  
Los Angeles, California  90016

Yep. It's good.

-- 

Hud Nordin
Cybernetic Arts                rkn@apple.com
Post Office Box 2066           Telephone: 408.248.0377
Sunnyvale, California 94087    Facsimile: 408.248.0416
From: kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Bauganvia(sp?)
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:32:30 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: questor.sw.stratus.com

Does anyone know anything about a type of tree called a
Bauganvia(sp?)?  There is a tree near where I sit at work that's quite
interesting. I asked the woman who comes by every two weeks to
maintain it about it.  She said gave me the name and said it might be
from southern CA.

It's a really neat tree.  It looks a little like a ficus.  It has
leaves similiar to your typical ficus but maybe just a little wider.
It's bark is darker and 'gnarlier' than ficus and it's branches are
gnarlier also.  The best thing about it is that it's in bloom now and
has the coolest flowers.  The ends of branches have modified leaves in
sets of three.  They are wider than regular leaves and more spade
shaped.  They are a pastel orange to pink color.  In the center of
each of these modified leaves if one little yellow flower.

Anyone every seen this tree in a book or know anything about it they
can post?  It looks like it would make a good indoor bonsai.  I
noticed a broken branch on it the other day so I took it home and
potted it with root hormone in hopes that it will grow.

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Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: dave@alex.com (Dave Quinn)
Subject: Re: New bonsai owner! [i hope]
Organization: Alex Technologies Ltd
Apparently-To: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:26:16 +0000

In article <1du3tnINNn7l@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>, Alan@phantom.mech.ubc.ca (Alan Steeves) writes:
> In fact I would expect that most people give the kit a try and when nothing 
> happens they think, this is to hard me and leave the hobby.  What do the rest
> of you think?

I am afraid that I must disagree. I think that these kits do serve a useful 
purpose. I bought some seeds like this when I was getting started in bonsai 
and now have some nice small trees (amongst them a Mountain Pine which is now
about 12 inches high).

Anyone who is expecting an instant bonsai masterpiece is on to a looser. But 
growing a tree from seed is a perfectly valid and rewarding thing to do and 
you can end up with some very nice trees. 

Some would even say that there is no better way to develop the very rigidly 
defined bonsai styles like formal upright.

Having said that, I think that there are some things that should be made very
clear on the packaging. Such as some sorts of trees needing to be wintered for 
several months before you can even pot them and even after this they may not
germinate straight away. I had to leave mine outside for another year, after 
which some more grew.

I now have five (God knows how many I planted though!) seedlings/small trees 
which I have grown in this way and I enjoy tending to them as much as my older 
trees.

Sadly, I missed Matthew's original posting because our news server was down, 
but I say good luck to him! :-)

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From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: Ficus microcarpa
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:07:33 GMT
	<1dbqjhINN9g@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.ge.com
Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY

In article <1dbqjhINN9g@male.EBay.Sun.COM> tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Thomas McCabe Kelly) writes:
>   - thorough cleaning of tools from one tree to the next (I use Hexol)

What is Hexol? Where can it be bought? I use rubbing Alcohol - so
that diseases won't be spread from one tree to another. I have heard
contradictory advice about oil, or silicon spray on tools. I use it if
the tools look rusty, but wipe it off carefully before I cut any
branches with them.
--
Bruce Barnett <barnett@crd.ge.com> uunet!crdgw1!barnett
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Thomas McCabe Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: Ficus microcarpa
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:53:37 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com

In article 21577@mr.med.ge.com, bartlone@gemed (Michel Bartolone) writes:
> 
> --> Tk...Thanks..the info you sent doesn't quite jive (some
> details match exactly, some close but no cigar, one or two
> differences in interpretation or 'definition' of 'fuzzy
> terms') with the stuff I have, but enough of them do so I can 
> try one and see if I like it without too much worry..
> 

Mike, one of the fun (and frustrating) parts of Bonsai for me over 
the past few years was well summarized by you above. There is so 
much inforamtion on some species that it often conflicts.  Which 
one do I believe?  I mean, like most of us, I have a fair library 
of Bonsai books, and a partial library of Bonsai Today magazines...
and they don't alway recommend the same things (and some parts are
down-right contradictory!)

So I often ask my "teacher" ... lots of knowledge, and LOCAL, so
generic information can be applied to this climate, environment, etc.
Plus, since I've been going to classes and workshops with him for
almost 4 years he is aware of my trees "past" and my habits/tendencies
as well.

I also have taken care to minimize the variables that can cause problems.
Such as:
	- all of my trees are in the same kind of soil (the teacher's mix)
	  (okay, not all... but all finished Bonsai <- is that an oxymoron?)
	- feeding is as similar is possible (frequency and brands of fertilizer)
	- limited use of funicides, but consistent about brands
	- always the same cut paste (for healing large branch removal wounds)
	- thorough cleaning of tools from one tree to the next (I use Hexol)

All that care didn't prevent the neighbors dog (not a pretty story) nor the
thieves (*sigh*)...  

Tk
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: bartlone@gemed (Michel Bartolone)
Subject: Re: Sources..and where I am..
Followup-To: alt.bonsai
Reply-To: "bartlone@gemed.ge.com"
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:44:31 GMT


In article <1dos2dINNoah@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM 
(Tom Kelly) writes...

>What is local for you, Mike?  (Where are you?)

Would some one please slap me when I do that? about 95% of the time
I read news with the headers turned on..from the name of your site
I can (not always, but I'm getting better) usually figure out where
a person is posting from (ie where the machine is sitting) even if
they don't have this huge line in their header like I've got..

"Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI"

I do however forget that there are: People new to usenet
         People using different news readers
         People getting feeds from news handling sw that
                may or may not feed the headers...

I'm sorry! Please don't flame me too hard! On second thought, maybe
you should flame me...it could just be a bad case of 'cold north woods
froze my brain' and the flames would thaw it enough to use it!
For those of you unfamiliar with the climate in the North Central
section of the US...do you want to rent me? ;-) We've already had it
snow twice this year...last weekend the HIGH temp was about 40F.
Today it may get up to 50F!! (hot spell!) Getting down close to
freezing at night already...we may actually get warm again next spring..
but there are no guarantee's..we've had highs in the low 40's as late as
mid-june (I remember it quite clearly..I was standing in a stadium
parking lot waiting for the ball game to finish so I could do my other job
[Bartolotta's Fireworks] freezing [37 degree's] the day before fathers day)
and deep snow (8-10 inches) as late as May 10th (two years ago..)
This probably also sheds some light into my love of bonsai...or at least
indoor bonsai..its too damn cold to bother going outside for 9 months
of the year...;-)

OB:Bonsai...tropical seeds...Fukien tea..Ficus microcarpa..bamboo...
some one want to donate a few to me?
OB:Other interesting stuff..any one out there also interested in
Tai Chi Chuan? TM? Ayurvedic Medicine?
                                                 Mike

--
bartlone@last.med.ge.com | 'Think tree...
In your mind, make picture..now open eyes..
make like picture...' paraphrased from
                    'The Karate Kid'
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Tom Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: Bougainvillea
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:01:35 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com


In article 1dov7uINNi7b@transfer.stratus.com, kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner) writes:
> Does anyone know anything about a type of tree called a
> Bauganvia(sp?)? 

From The Creative Art of Bonsai (check other sources, if possible... I only
				 have one or two here at a time)

Bougainvillea spectabilis - from the Nyctaginaceae family
Branches with light bark; evergreen, with oval, downy, light-green leaves. 
In flower from March to June, large pink or mauve bracts.  Some varieties are
carmine or brickred. There are also varieties with green-cream varigated leaves.

Indoors recommended, but a winter temp of 54-61F is necessary for spring flowering

Origin - Native to Brazil

Propagation?
	by cutting from green wood (preferably in spring) - lightly strip some, and insert
		in loam-peat mixture.  Remove tip.  Place in warm, light position.
		in winter, place in cold greenhouse or light, unheated room.  
		Repot the following spring.
Ventilation?
	Keep out of drafts, but it can withstand warm wind
Growth?
	Fast at first, slower with age
Soil?
	Rich, well-drained soil that is not too heavy.
	1/4 heath mould, 1/4 leaf mould, 1/4 loam, 1/4 coarse sand
Repot?
	Every second year in spring, prune roots by half...go to larger pot
Watering?
	Water often and regularly but with care...over watering causes leaves to fall
	Water daily in summer, restricted watering just prior to and during flowering
	Spray foliage daily, but do not spray trees when in flower
Feeding?
	After flowering in Autumn, feed with slow-acting organic fertilizer about once
		a fortnight.  Alternate liquid and solid fertilizer

Hope this helps!
Tk
From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Seeds and germinations (was Re: New bonsai owner! [i hope])
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:51:34 GMT
	<1du3tnINNn7l@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.ge.com
Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY


I'd like to add one experience. I bought a packet of seeds from Agway
for "bonsai". I had a hard time finding any of those species in any
bonsai book [none], and found one in "Understanding Wood" from Taunton Press.
The tree is an evergreen with needles 11 inches long....!

It wasn't worth the effort.
--
Bruce Barnett <barnett@crd.ge.com> uunet!crdgw1!barnett
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: bartlone@gemed (Michel Bartolone)
Subject: Let me rephrase that...
Followup-To: alt.bonsai
Reply-To: "bartlone@gemed.ge.com"
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 19:12:30 GMT


OK, I'm finally seeing some good responses to my request for info 
about certain plants. However, I should mention that I do currently have
'Indoor Bonsai' and would rather get some 'first hand' info about
the care and feeding of these critters. 

IF YOU DID POST STUFF FROM INDOOR BONSAI KEEP DOING IT! After all,
the info is NOT just for me it is for the rest of the group as well.

I think there is a possible service that we could put together.
If you have plant info, type it in. If you have room to store it,
do so...if not, you can e-mail it to me, and I can find a place for
it. NOTE: MY SITE IS NOT ACCESSIBLE VIA FTP, so this would not be
an anon-ftp archive, but I am working on setting up a mail-server
archive. If some one else WANTS to take care of this PLEASE SAY SO,
and I'll gladly send you the copies of all of the alt.bonsai
messages I currently have (all messages posted since 9-12-92..
missed about the first 42 messages). See where I'm going with this?

FEEDBACK! Thanks...

ps: Hey..how was your weekend?
                                             Mike

--
bartlone@last.med.ge.com | 'Think tree...
In your mind, make picture..now open eyes..
make like picture...' paraphrased from
                    'The Karate Kid'
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Tom Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: Sources
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:38:20 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com



In article 17657@mr.med.ge.com, bartlone@gemed (Michel Bartolone) writes:
> 
> So...any one out there have some Fukien tea cuttings they might be willing
> to part with? Seriously, I'd love to get some, but I think shipping would 
> be a problem. Especially this time of year! I'll be contacting our local
> group this week, and possibly visiting the only 'local' bonsai shop
> (the only one listed in the phonebook anyway) next weekend...also, does
> any one out there have some idea's of where to get bamboo? I don't
> think I've ever seen it for sale anywhere locally...
> 


What is local for you, Mike?  (Where are you?)
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (busy writing)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Good Books
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:57:10 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com


Book Recommendations:

	Bonsai: The Complete Guide to Art and Technique by Paul Lesienwicz
	Indoor Bonsai  (by the same author)

	The Creative Art of Bonsai by Isabelle and Remey Samson

	Bonsai Techniques I  (the author's name is simailr to Naja or Naga)
	(this is a terrific step by step book on most of the things I needed
	 to learn the first two years - wiring, watering, different planting
	 techniques, propagation techniques... simple steps, clearly written
	 and with small pictures to highlight the steps)
	
	Bonsai Techniques II  (more advanced...) I just bought it, and after
	some reading, I might be a year to two premature for alot of this info

Tk
From: sorita@fhl.fujitsu.co.jp (Megumi Sorita)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Who wrote me???
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:19:31 GMT
Distribution: alt.bonsai
Organization: Fujitsu Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


Hello.

about 1 month ago, 
I received a mail asking me about a book on bonsai.

He asked me if a book on bonsai (witten in Japanese) has 
already translated in English.

I'm very sorry I lost that mail

Who wrote me about that?

If you're there, please send me again, please.

I promise I'll work for you.

thank you.

                                          sorita@fhl.fujitsu.co.jp
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Tom Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: Bamboo
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:37:18 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com

Bamboo ( from the creative art of bonsai by I & R Samson)
======


Indoors.. above 66F

light?
	alot of light, but not direct sun
cleaning?
	remove yellow leaves, and shoots from the trunk
growth?
	fast in the spring
repotting
	every second or third year (may-september), with new compost
soil?
	1/2 loam, 1/4 leaf mould, and 1/4 course sand .. deep, damp soil
watering?
	copious watering, and often... good drainage necessary
feeding?
	spring and autumn with a slow-acting, organic fertilizer
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Thomas McCabe Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: Fukien-tea
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:43:34 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com

Fukien-tea (from Indoor Bonsai by P Lesniewicz)

indoors... 59-75F

light?
	bright (west or south exposure), but shouldn't bake in the sun
	outside in summer is ok, but in semi-shade
watering?
	plenty all year long
feeding?
	early spring to early autumn, every two weeks..
	every 4-6 weeks in winter
repotting?
	every two years (root pruning)
soil?
	2 parts loam, 2 parts peat, 1 part sand