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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:22:54 EST
From:         todd pukanecz <CCCS@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Pats & Libertarians
              7 Nov 1992 10:47:07 CST from <erteltsa@ALPHA.HENDRIX.EDU>

On Sat, 7 Nov 1992 10:47:07 CST <erteltsa@ALPHA.HENDRIX.EDU> said:
>Todd, HOW are the Pats self-righteous and discriminatory and HOW do they
>emphasise division? Please answer these questions before making any
>accusations against them.
>--Steve

   Well, someone was nice enough to repost Buchanan's speech to the RNC.
(I looked for Robertson's at MARIST.  Did they discard the BUSH list?)
Let's take a look at pieces of PB's speech.

  Buchanan starts by taking pot shots at the Democrats, liberals, and
radicals, and would have you believe that all are synonymous.  It's
pretty standard political rhetoric.  On to your specific queries.
  After mischaracterizing statements made by Hillary Clinton, BP says:

.  Friends, this is radical feminism. The agenda Clinton & Clinton would impose
.on America -- abortion on demand, a litmus test for the Supreme Court,
.homosexual rights, discrimination against religious schools, women in combat -

Note that "discrimination against religious schools" is the status quo, and
is only discrimination in the sense that Bush's school voucher plan gave some
relief to parents who send their children to these schools.

.that's change all right. But it is not the kind of change America wants. It is

Alot of it is the kind of change I'd want.  Apparently the kind of change
45% of America wanted.  A somewhat divisive device.

.not the kind of change America needs. And it is not the kind of change we can
.tolerate in a nation that we still call God's country.

  Fine -- God's country.  But which God; who's God?  Apparently the God
who doesn't want equal rights for homosexuals and women, who wants the
public to pay for religious indoctrination, and who has an interest in
the makeup of the Supreme Court.  I've never read or heard of such a God
but apparently PB has and tells us himself in his own righteous way.

.   Which of these two men has won the moral authority to call on Americans to
.put their lives at risk? I suggest, respectfully, it is the patriot and war
.hero, Navy Lt.j.g George Herbert Walker Bush.

  "Moral authority"?  The president needs the proxy of the God of Pat
Buchanan to commit troops?  I thought commiting troops was done for
national security, not moral obligation.  A tad self-righteous?

  Buchanan talks (demeaningly) about Gore and his statement that the
environment must be a central organizing principle.

.   The central organizing principle of this republic is freedom. And from the
.ancient forests of Oregon, to the Inland Empire of California, America's great
.middle class has got to start standing up to the environmental extremists who
.put insects, rats and birds -- ahead of families, workers and jobs.

  Buchanan characterizes everyone concerned with the environment as an
extremist.  Many in America's great middle class are very concerned about
the environment.  Again, trying to divide - it's us vs. them.

.   Yes, we disagreed with President Bush, but we stand with him for
.freedom-of-choice religious schools, and we stand with him against the amoral
.idea that gay and lesbian couples should have the same standing in law as
.married men and women.

  This is clearly discriminatory.  Who someone loves is an issue with
regard to their rights?  We should give fewer rights to gays and
lesbians?  And several paragraphs before Buchanan stated that the
"central organizing principle...is freedom".  Apparently freedom to
love is not included in PB's organizing principle.

.  My friends, this election is about much more than who gets what. It is about
.who we are. It is about what we believe, it is about what we stand for as
.Americans. There is a religious war going on in our country for the soul of

  There is a religious war going on in Ireland.  What is going in in
America is subversion of government by the religious-right.  The folks
that Buchanan falls into line with when his voice cries "freedom" while
his hands try to remove freedoms for those his God has deemed unworthy.
    toddddddddddd

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