From: caine@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dark Lord of the Sith)
Subject: Re: SF2 regulars at UIUC.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:00:41 GMT

cw21219@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Crying Freeman) writes:


>Cybergeek AKA Eu-Ming Lee
>-------------------------
>I'm sure most regular readers of the net are aware of 
>this guy. He's not the best player of any one character,
>but he's a near master with ALL the characters... Of 
>the players here, he's probably the most aware of the
>subtle nuances in the game. He's also probably the
>best thrower (and counterthrower) This isn't saying
>he dominates and wins all the time, in fact I haven't
>seen this happen in a LONG time, but in terms of
>timing, ranging, spacing and the nuances he's on
>of the best.


>Seth Killian AKA "Annoying Ryu"
>-------------------------------
>I'm sure you've all seen his 20 posts per day :)
>Anyways, he's predominantly a Ryu player. Hmmm...
>How should I describe this... You know the
>fireball-fireball-ROUNDHOUSE kick players?
>Yup. Seth is the epitome of one of these players.
>In terms of style, he plays the "safe" style.
>His ultimate goal is to win. He doesn't really
>take risks except against scrubs. In terms of
>combos, he's probably one of the weakest "comboers"
>His main "combo" is jumping roundhouse, short dragon punch.
>Originally, we called him one of the "non-dragon
>punching Ryus" (We got a few of 'em)
>Despite all of this though, he does win his fair
>share of matches. I'd say his main weakness is
>against masters of characters which require a
>consistent dragon punch (Blanka, Bison, esp.)
>His main strentgh lies in his ranging...


>Dark Lord of the Sith (?) AKA Caine
>-----------------------------------
>Basically, one of the many Ken "experts" in the
>arcade. Not quite master level, but not a scrub
>either. He's been playing Sagat lately I believe.
>I think his main weakness would be counterthrowing,
>but I usually play a low-throw style against him
>so I haven't really put this to the test. I guess
>I don't really have much to say except he's basically
>your standard Ken/Ryu/Sagat player who can dp/tiger/etc.
>consistently.

Yeah, yeah, I'm one of those Ken, Ryu, Sagat, and Vega guys.  I play a risky
type of game, and therefore I don't win very much.  I know a lot about the
game, but when the joystick doesn't work...arrrggghh.  I hate that.  I quite
better at throwing than he said, but countering is not a strong point, suffice
to say, given the opportunity, I'll throw your ass.  I don't tick too much,
but I can do it.  One thing I'm working on is figuring out the timing on Vega's
air choke throw, and also trying to break the Sagat pattern play that has 
become very popular.  May main difficulties lie in fighting against tickers,
fighting vs. Blanka w/ Sagat, and I STILL have problems vs. Zangief.  Grrr...
My downfall is a falling apart at the end of the round or match.  I usually
get ahead, and then start to tail off in the end...but if it happens to me
(getting behind early) I can fight back and make it interesting and still
lose.  That sucks.

More on da tough guy Eu-Ming:
He probably has not won a lot lately because everyone is getting better.  He
plays a high precision game, that's very tough to beat.  He experiments with
lots of new stuff, like the standing roundhouse DP.  Seeing him play one-
handed is cool, too bad he's leaving in a few days :(.  I'm sure that he
could play all day on one quarter if he wanted to.  Cheap Fridays when he
was there was always a great laugh...too bad this is the last one.  One of
the craziest things I've seen was on a Cheap Friday:  instead of cheaping,
he did combo attacks the whole round.  He did not let up, he'd jump in and
do some absurd combo while the poor sap blocked it all...combo after combo,
of course all the hits were blocked, but still cool.  He even taught me some
things...

More about "Annoying Ryu":
The best with the HK I have seen.  He does that thing at the strangest times
to get the draino hits that win you matches.  That fireball trap of his
is impeccable.  Doesn't DP much, but helluva lot more than he used to.
Has a good combo, just one albeit: flying roundhouse, ducking strong, jab
DP.  Quite effective.  Very good thrower, he makes you pay for mistakes
every time.  Better with Ryu than eveyone else recently.  Very solid.  Think
he learned a lot from Ming also.


Obviously, we have a good crop here.  There a dozens more of good players here.
We didn't mention the "What der fock?!" guy...he's a real character (he POUNDS
the buttons, probably responsible for 99% of joystick and button damage!).  Lots
of other faces in the sea.  The Evil Bison guy here is amazing...when he 
gets going, cheese starts flying.  Incredible!  

Aside from our joysticks being bad, I'd say that *I* would win more often.
I'm what could be called a precision player:  I rely heavily on the joystick
doing precisely what I want.  So a bad joystick leads to difficult playing,
and to make matters worse, the stick is like stubble (quite short).  Enough...

Caine Schneider
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