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From: jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant stuff...
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:14:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: cryo.jdrew.0gwm
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.26 beta (Oct 19 1992)


In <1992Nov11.094909.60679@cc.usu.edu>, sl1zm@cc.usu.edu writes:
> A couple important things you will need to know about Emplant.
> It needs a battery and it only uses Mac II ROMs.
> Since it only uses the Mac II ROMs, it doesn't support the 
> 68000 or 68010.  It also needs a *non* EC version of the 68020/30/40
> and a 6888x for best compatibility.  
> 
> It needs better docs too.
> 
> James
> 
Actually, you don't need the battery unless you want to have the battery
backed-up static ram keep it's contents when the Amiga is powered off.
 
You can use MAC II, MAC IIx, and MAC IIcx ROMS.
 
The 68000 support was scratched because after getting it to *finally* come
up under 68000 mode, it was nearly 15 times slower than a MAC+ is.  There
are over 5,000 patches that need to be made to the ROMs in order to
provide 68000 support.  Running so slow that you can actually watch
windows "draw" instead of pop open is not my idea of an emulator.  The
reason for the tremendous slow down is that the MAC II series has MUCH
more overhead that is very CPU intensive.  That was the main reason that
Apple switched to higher processors...not so much for end speed, but
because their computer was crawling along with all the OS additions they
wanted to add.
 
The manual sent out is prelimenary and there will be a complete (book
format) printed and sent out shortly.  


Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
           1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124
           Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
           (602) 680-9004     (602) 680-9006 FAX    (602) 453-9767 BBS
From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Emplant thoughts
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:15:51 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


           
If Jim Drew/UU *KNEW* there was a bug in the HD part of the software, why did   he/they deliberately disable it and send out 'non-working' versions of the 
Emplant system?  Wouldn't it have been smarter to tell people of the delay and
fix the problem?  Of course people wouldn't have believed him.  Jim has cried
wolf (released) too many times.  IMHO he released Emplant "as-is" to keep 
people from starting a class action fraud law suit against him.  Of course, 
since he is deliberately selling a non-functional product, fraud still applies.
At best he has bought himself 1-2 weeks of bug fix time before people go
completely bananas on him

If he had beta testers (as he "says" he did) wouldn't they have found such a
glaring error as trashed HD's?  Sure it works on Quantums and Rodines, but      Seagates are fairly common and, and probably should've been considered.

He advertised being able to emulate a 68030 based Mac on a 68000 chip.  People
ordered the board with this in mind.  Now he says that it doesn't work like that

Were the people who pre-ordered the board notified of this, and given the option of cancelling their order?  If not, false-advertising comes into play.

Who knows, maybe it will work, someday.  But Jim seems to have a lot of work
to do to make this a working, or viable, product.


Jeff Hanna
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:45:51 EST
From: <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Mac floppy readers?
 <1992Nov12.170951.15364@noao.edu>

There are a variety of image formats in the mac world. I have had the best succ
ess so far using photoshop. Shrink the image down to 1/4 size, save as 5bit
amiga/iff. Transfer the iff over to msdos with Apple File Exchange. Then read
the msdos with crossdos. The images should load into Dpaint 32 color mode.
 Anthony Beecher
From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: List of Emplant "bugs" from UU.
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:51:30 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I just got off the phone with "Joe" from UU. (Friday Nov 13)
We spent about 15 minutes discussing some of the problems.
Joe was the *ONLY* person there.  He was having to answer two phone
lines, and work on bug fixes by himself!  (busy man!)
He had one phone in one ear, his eyes on a monitor, and
another phone on hold!  (wonder where his mind is?)

I tried not to keep him too long, but here is a summary:

A3000's without 2.04 roms are in the worst shape.
Emplant doesn't like using Superkickstart loaded from HD.  (likes roms)
LowMap works for some people, not for others.
Still no HD support.
Still doesn't run under 2.0.  It did at one time, but Jim likes 1.3 and
  finished developing the rest of the softare under 1.3 assuming that 
  it still ran fine under 2.0.

All of these problems are currently being worked on.
They hope to have them corrected sometime "next week."  (I hate those words)
Emplant.lha is available on the BBS.  It fixes disk caching and 32bit QuickDraw.
  (not much need of me dnlding this until I they get some of the other fixes!)

BTW: UU tells me that they *WERE* pressured into releasing Emplant in it's
     current state due to legal "pressure/threats".  Personally, I would have
     rather they waited.  Of course, I would rather Jim had not told us that
     it was ready when it wasn't!  I'd rather have World Peace, too.

BTW2: I did dnld the new AmigaVideo driver (faster) and the Readme files
      that were *SUPPOSED* to be on the Emplant floppy.  I'll try to upld
      them to wuarchive in the incoming/hardware directory.
      All Emplant buyers will receive the new revised manual/software once they
      are completed.

The bottom line is:
  "Ain't much need of trying any more, until they get these fixes done".
That is, unless your running:
  '020 or '030 with system 1.2/1.3 roms 
   and don't care about HD support (ie. no Mac sys7)

I think I'll wait.
From: ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Using BB with HD??
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:11:20 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

How do I partition my hard drive to use with my 8088 bridgeboard. I bought my
2000 used and it had this bb in it. It came with one disk which doesn't seem
to have any info or files concerning hd use. Am I missing some files?. I have
a quantum hd with trumpcard controller. I can create a partition, but how do
I format it in MS-DOG and how do I get the bb to recognize it?  (so far I only
use the bb with floppies).
Thank for any info,
Anthony Beecher PSU
From: swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: I can't seem to get through to UU....can you-you?
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:56:48 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner) writes:

> I have tried *MANY* times over the past few days to call UU at their
> tel# (602) 680-9004.  
> The phone just rings & rings & rings & .................
> Has anyone out there gotten through since Wednesday 04NOV92 ??
> 
> Didn't mean to alarm anyone waiting on their Emplant board. 
> Maybe they're just using the secretary to haul boxes to a UPS pickup point?
> (yeah...right!)     just kiddin'    8)  <<<<---- means joking!  okay?
> 
> C'ya.
> -- 
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> wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu             IBM, Apple, Sun, & Next make it expensi

I got thru today.

I was told that ALL orders up to october have been shipped as of Friday.  (I
ordered mine Sept. 10th)... 

Since it was sent 2nd day air... I should have it tomorrow or the next day. 

More info as it comes up :)

	-steve


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From: David-L@cup.portal.com (David Steven Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant Is Shipping and Has Arrived!!!!!
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:17:14 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

What kind of software bugs?
What things that it is supposed to do don't work yet?

Which version of the board did you get (SCSI, Serial, etc)

Have you tried accessing the serial ports from Amiga Dos?

Did you get the option to allow using you Amiga Drives as Mac
drives?  Have the Sybil problems truely been fixed?

Are you planning on using any special graphics cards with the board?

Also, let us know where you got the Roms and how much they cost...

Thanks, lotsa questions - sorry...

Congats to Jim Drew.....
I'm looking forward to a color mac!!!
From: blanke@bigboy (Mark Blanke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: REQUEST:  Emplant Review!!!!!
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:03:00 GMT
Organization: Temple University

knyal@ils.nwu.edu (Jarrett Knyal) writes:
: In article <1992Nov11.134152.26667@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> blanke@bigboy
: (Mark Blanke) writes:
: 
: 
:  It seems the board (Emplant) is memory hungry and since my
: >Amiga 3000 only has 3Megs of Ram (2 Chip, 1FAST) The board supposedly
: >needs at least 2Megs of Chip ram.)
: 
: It better not need 2 M of chip ram!  My Agnus chip will only address 1 M. 
I am sorry, but I meant 2 Megabytes of FAST memory.   It is suggested that
you have at least 3 megabytes of 32 bit memory.

Sorry for any confusion!

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From: mustang@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul Christopher Miranda (I love Cheese))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Newfuzz for Amax2.5?
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:53:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Nov6.151232.11016@uoft02.utoledo.edu> bgundlac@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Bill Gundlach ) writes:
>Awhile back, a poster said that he had a new version on Fuzz
>for Amax 2.5.  I was never able to find the file at the site
>he mentioned.  Is anyone out there using a version of Fuzz
>successfully with Amax 2.5?  If so, please send a site and 
>path from which it can be FTP'ed.  Thanks in advance!
>
>Bill Gundlach
>University of Toledo  - Chemistry Department
>bgundlac@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu  "Instant Death - Just add water!" 

I, too tried to find the fabled new Fuzz ... I have used the old version
on an AMiga 500 and it was truly astounding!... but I have an 030 board
and the thing screws up... I wish the guy who wrote that would follow
the rules!!!


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From: falavi@bach.mth.kcl.ac.uk (Farrukh Alavi)
Subject: Re: AGA can now emulate VGA
Keywords: chameleon
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 13:12:14 GMT
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In <1992Nov6.163649.6928@sol.cs.wmich.edu> 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu  
(Martin Black) writes:

>How much?  And was it real snappy graphics.

Sorry, can't remember the price. The graphics were about the same speed as  
a true PC display. There will be an A1200 version of the KCS, I was  
informed.

>But does it do amiga 1.76M hd disks?

Obviously.

=====================================


In article <1992Nov6.164625.6076@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>  
tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:

>Sounds encouraging. Anything else of particular interest at the show? Did
>Vortex make an appearance with their 486 SLC card?

No, Vortex wasn't there. The only other major event at the show was the  
official UK launch of the A1200. Some game companies have announced  
enhanced AGA versions of games by year's end. GVP was there demoing its  
G-Lock genlock which supports AGA genlocking features. Deluxe Paint IV-AA  
is to become available in the UK on Nov. 20, according to the EA reps. Not  
much else, I'm afraid.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: tmb@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas M. Breeden)
Subject: BB386sx Prices
Originator: tmb@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:42:52 GMT

Has anyone found a good price in the US of A for CBM's 386 bridge
board?

The $550 CDN figure mentioned is not advertised in AmigaWorld's mail
order ads, more like $700 US.

Tom Breeden
tmb@virginia.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Can EMPLANT emulate an A4000
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:50:17 EST
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov11.160940.1126@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>,
vhansen@ipfs.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de (Wolfgang von Hansen) says:

>Hi netters,
>another posting to the EMPLANT club. Can I emulate an
>A4000 on my A2000 with EMPLANT? What will it cost?

U.U. are developing an adaptor for Emplant to allow you to plug in A4000
ROMs directly into Emplant. It's so obvious I won't even mention what
possible use this might be.

[For the humor-impaired: :-) ]
From: steves@CIS.Prime.COM (Steve Stamford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: amiga on a sun
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:21:59 GMT
Reply-To: steves@CIS.Prime.COM
Organization: Computervision R&D Ltd

Hi World,

Subject says it all, does anyone know of an amiga emulation on a sun workstation.

Thanks in advance

steve

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From: jerry@marin.uucp (Jerry C. Hudgins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Janus <-> MS-DOS Compatibility
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 10 Nov 92 09:20:04 EST
Organization: Private UUCP Node

I just received the Janus 2.1 update for my A2286 from my dealer, and it
doesn't include MS-DOS (I ordered it piecemeal).  Is 2.1 compatible with
the MS-DOS 3.3 shipped with 2.0, or do I need to go out and buy a copy of
MS-DOS 5.0?

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From: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
Subject: Re: Even Better New Amiga Product! Was RE: new amiga product other dribble.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:10:34 GMT
Organization: StarNine Technologies, Inc.

In article <1992Nov2.002825.44308@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>>...BLAZEMONGER INC.  will no doubt blast Infinite SoftTools into oblivion
>>>and beyond for advertizing LOOK AND FEEL infringement.)
>> 
>> 	Nah, we'll sue Tiberio instead.  After all, our BLAZEPLANT ULTIMATE
>> EMULATOR was announced in this group back in June 1992, and this "Eggplant"
>> idea is nothing but BLATANT PLAGARISM which was probably written by his PET
>> DOG, FLUFFYKINS, who will no doubt be found MYSTERIOUSLY covered in MAPLE
>> SYRUP and PLASTIC FRUIT MAGNETS.
>
>Everyone should know that Samuarai Dominator Systems will soon flood
>the American and European markets with Blazemonger knock-offs that
>will be *even* more POWERFUL than the "real" models.

But BLAZEMONGER, Inc. has exploded all the ROMs that were in
stock (via their patented "Remote ROM 'raser" technology)!

I heard a rumor that someone wrote BLAZEROM to capture the
roms to a disk file, but to run the BLAZEMONGER knock off, you
have a Colecovision cartridge plugged into the serial port.
Was just a rumor, though, so don't get your hopes up.
From: tscarpenter@bra.isnet.inmos.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Emplant questions.
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:09:37 GMT
Organization: Inmos Limited

   Well I've been sitting back keeping my opinions to myself,  and I'm
   glad to see emplant is now shipping (Well done Jim).

   I have a couple of questions regarding it, sorry if this has been asked 
   before.
 
   1.  How much memory is required (CHIP and FAST).
   2.  Can it read/write Mac format disks on a Amiga drive (I Suspect not)
   3.  Can you connect a mac floppy drive up if the above is true.
   4.  Does anyone know a supplier in England.  Also pricing and config
       options and does anyone know a MAC 2 ROM Supplier.
   5.  I also have a mac classic (Yippee,  I don't think).  Is it possible
       (and legal)  to plug the roms into the emplant and then create a disk
       image of them,  then plug the mac roms back into the classic and boot
       off of the disk image on the emplant (And before I get flamed (PIRATE
       PIRATE etc.)  I would only run one machine at a time.  ie. Amiga with
       emplant or mac classic.
   6.  Does it multitask with emplant running.

  Thanks in advance.
   Darren.

P.S.  I think there are people out there who owe Jim a apology,  Not the ones
      who had there CC debited and then got upset about the delay.
      But the people who were just waiting for emplant to appear but hadn't 
      actually ordered it.  (You had a choice,  you could have brought AMAX).

      Also just for the record I believe emplant was announced early to try and
      stop people buying AMAX, so they would wait for emplant but IMHO this is
      good business practice,  I'm sure Jim would have loved to have had
      emplant ready and shipping when he said it would, but be realistic its
      the way the industry goes.

      And finally Don't bother to flame me for my opinions,  they are after all
      my opinions I have to live with them and if you don't agree,  just ignore
      them,  after all my employee does ;-)
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From: cs_e373@ceres (Matthew Simpkin)
Subject: Re: Touchtone Phone
Organization: Kingston University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:48:49 GMT

karkan@msdrl.com (Jim Karkanias) writes:
: I would like to be able to dial into a PC from a touchtone phone, wade through
: a menu or two ("...press 1 for ..., 2 for ...), and THEN have my keystrokes
: (buttonstrokes?) from the phone saved to some sort of file on the PC for later
: processing (e.g. the file could contain ASCII 14325 or whatever was pressed,
: etc.).  The whole thing could be terminated by a pound sign or hang-up, etc.
: (upon which any files which were opened would be closed, etc.)
: 
: Anyone know how to do this??  Thank you.
: 
: 
: Jim
: 

WHY ?
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From: mrubino@csws2.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael N Rubino)
Subject: Re: emplant on a A2000
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:53:18 GMT

In article <CLIN.92Nov11131914@jade.tufts.edu> clin@jade.tufts.edu (Chuck (Satch) Lin) writes:
>Is it true that I cannot emulate a Mac IIx on a A2000
>because I need a 68030? Can I use a 68020 to emulate a Mac LC?
>-chuck


I'm not sure what the current specs are but here is an excerpt from one of the
original Jim Drew posts:

> A normal MAC IIx
> uses a 68030, however, Apple did provide exception handling routines for
> the 68000 (odd, eh?), so 68000 users will be able to take advantage of
> this emulator too.

- Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:16:49 GMT+2
Subject: Re: Anyone have Prowrite 3.3?
From: harry@elfuerte.fipnet.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Distribution: world
Organization: Fipnet, Helsinki, Finland
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article ??? amigamat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mark Thomas) writes:
> 
> I just checked and the ChangeFontSize macro that I worked on did not make
> it on the distribution disks, but one such macro would be very similar to
> the ChangeDocFont macro that is on the distribution disk set.  Basically
> you would prompt the user to type in a point size that he/she wants all
> the fonts to be changed to and then the macro would select the whole
> document and issue the FontSize command with the entered size.  You
> could even go so far as the ChangeDocFont does to go to the even and odd
> header and footer and make changes.

But if I have used different SIZE fonts, too?  Could the macro do all these
steps:

1. enlarge the document by four, ie. 25 %
2. multiply the existing font sizes by four
3. print the document
4. divide sizes by four
5. reduce the document by four, ie. 100 %

>          Mark A. Thomas          / (amigamat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu)

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From: sno@ais.org (Stephen Opal)
Subject: DBman 5 problems with memo field.
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:23:57 GMT

I am having problems with my DBman 5.3 dated 92.02.11.

I have designed a format screen for my application, but can't seem to
get the memo field to show up.  Also, when the cursor moves to the
location that the memo field should be, pressing space causes a
very dramatic crash.

Notes:
The file being used is one created by DBase III plus on an IBM pc clone.
Both files (.dbf and .dbt) are available to DBman5.3, and the program
handles the data excellently except for this problem.

E-mail would be appreciated.
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