HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cvadraba@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: downLoading GIFs to mac via ftp&a vax
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:17:36 GMT
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadrayb

I have a question regarding downloading GIFs and assorted other files from
remote host via FTP. The qestion is how do I do this? 
I beleive that I have sucessfully trasferred a GIF from a remote host to the
local system (a vax) but, from there things get weird. I kermit the file to my
mac as a binary file but it winds up being a big text file of fubar. I seem to
be losing the header info and the like somewhere along the way.
Any help would be apreciated.
Thanks in advance, John.
CVADRABA
@CSUPomona.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: MANDTBACKA@finabo.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka Ktf92)
Subject: Re: Question
Organization: Unorganized Usenet Postings UnInc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:33:08 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <ujeffo.719047820@mcl> ujeffo@mcl.ucsb.edu writes:

>  Anyways, my question is about chatting to others on other computers.
>  I have a friend who attends UC San Diego while I attend UC Santa Barbara.
>  Would it be possible for us to somehow chat to one another?  We know how to
>  send email through elm, but that is about all.  And we are both novices to
>  Unix/internet/usenet/whatever net (I do not know the difference) so if 
>  I am posting the wrong question in that wrong place, I apologize.  

      Well, I'm actually rather new myself, so maybe I'm not really the
right person to answer this, but...
I don't think it's possible for us mere mortals to do anything like that
- the traffic would bog down the net. EMail should be enough for most
purposes, and if not, there's always the phone.
  
>  ps if anyone knows where I can get some general documentation on internet/
> usenet/telnet kind of stuff, please tell me where (I know how to use ftp
>  Anonymous).

      Right here is a good place to start - see the periodic posting
called "New user's guide to the Usenet", or was it called "Welcome to
news.newusers.questions" or something like that... Required reading!

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        those of anybody and / or anything with any brains whatsoever.
  Mats Andtbacka is really: MANDTBACKA@finabo.abo.fi (or ABOVAX::MANDTBACKA).
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: juphoff@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (The Road Warrior)
Subject: Compuserve access?
Keywords: Compuserve
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 07:04:21 GMT

Is there any way to use my compuserve account from the internet?  (i.e., a
gateway of some sort).  I've done mail, but i'm wondering if i can 
actually log in.

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ftsui@uncc.edu (Fong Tsui)
Subject: Re: Who invented news?
Reply-To: ftsui@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:10:01 GMT

First time to try this newsgroup.

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: gelly@persoft.com (Brewing Chemist Mitch)
Subject: Bonne Bell
Keywords: peche kriek framboise
Organization: Persoft, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:28:22 GMT

Can anyone tell me if Bonne Bell (cosmetics) has an internet address ? 

Cheers,

  Mitch



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From: steve.dunham@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (STEVE LEE DUNHAM)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: mafia
Keywords: crime
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:52:10 GMT
Organization: University of Utah


	Is it true that the mafia started in sicily?
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: TENEX vs. BINARY at Simtel20
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:37:16 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <1992Oct10.192411.43742@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>I keep hearing that when you ftp stuff from wsmr-simtel20.army.mil you
>have to use TENEX instead of BINARY.  I've gotten stuff from there
>with BINARY OK (before I heard you were supposed to use TENEX); and the
>other day I got a .ZIP file from there using TENEX and it was
>corrupted (at least that's what PKUNZIP told me), and I got it again
>with BINARY and it was OK.  What gives?

What gives is that since most of the other sites use "binary"
insteand of "tenex" the defaults at SIMTEL20 have been changed so
that "binary" works, since most of the users would use it anyway.

>Separate but related question:
>I don't think I could understand the technical difference between BINARY and
>TENEX if you tried to tell me, but: is it the case that neither one

Number of bits (32/36) and all that.  Not really necessary for the
user to know.

>will screw up a text file?  Because I've gotten text files from
>simtel20 that were slightly awry, then got them again using neither
>BINARY nor TENEX and they were fine.

For text files the normal solution is to use "ascii".

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: How to Email to MCIMail from Internet?
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:28:22 GMT
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems, Moraga, CA

Spartacus At Cuny <I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

> Hi folks,
> 
>    I gotta question.  How do I Email someone on MCI Mail from the internet?
> How do I compose the Email address?  Please Email me with the answer if
> you can...Thanks.

I'm posting my answer because you may not be the only person who
wants to know. The general guide to connecting from one network to
another is called NETGUIDE... Internet to almost anywhere...
MCI MAIL        accountname@mcimail.com
TO MCI          or  mciid@mcimail.com
                or  firstname.lastname@mcimail.com
 
#F mci
#T internet
#R John Smith <user@domain>
#C 267-1163 (MCI Help)
#I at the 'To:' prompt type 'John Smith (EMS)'
#I at the 'EMS:' prompt type 'INTERNET'
#I at the 'Mbx:' prompt type 'user@domain'

A.Lizard
From: ujeffo@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeffrey Behl)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Question
Summary: How to chat
Keywords: chat talk
Date: 14 Oct 92 07:30:20 GMT

Ok, first post, so if all is not well, sorry.

Anyways, my question is about chatting to others on other computers.  I have a friend who attends UC San Diego while I attend UC Santa Barbara.  Wouls it be possible for us to somehow chat to one another?  We know how to send email through
elm, but that is about all.  And we are both novices to Unix/internet/usenet/whatever net (I do not know the difference) so if I am posting the wrong question in that wrong place, I apologize.  

ps if anyone knows where I can get some general documentation on internet/usenet/telnet kind of stuff, please tell me where (I know how to use ftp Anonymous).
bye!
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: folks who write/maintain FAQ's???
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:39:24 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20Lines: 18

Is there a newsgroup or a mail-list for folks who maintain FAQ's for their
respective newsgroups?  I could swear I saw a ref. to such a newsgroup/list a
while ago, but now that I could really use it, I can't find it.

If there isn't such a newsgroup, is anyone interested in offering advice and/or
wisdom to a sucker (me) who volunteered to create FAQ's for a high-volume,
high-controversy newsgroup (sci.med)?  I need both practical technical advice
(how to format FTP files to make them maximally readable) and moral support
(how do you construct faq entries about subjects that are so controversial that
they invariably touch off flame wars every time they come up -again-) as well
as net.manners advice (how to use FAQ to *strongly* discourage certain types of
topics without going all the way to moderated newsgroup).



------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
From: harris@proline.cs.unc.edu (Trey Harris)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Help finding machines on a system.
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:41:54 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <1992Oct13.005430.29947@netcom.com> mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris) writes:
>harris@morisot.cs.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes:
>: In article <9210101857.AA10738@toto.cis.ohio-state.edu> garlock@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (erin jon garlock) writes:
>: >
>: >I would like to know if there is a way to find out what machines are connected to any particular system.  
>: >example%   cis.ohio-state.edu   has lionfish and skink and flamingo....
>: >example%   plymouth.edu		has oz
>: >and so on and so forth.
>: >
>: >where can i find this info for any random system??
>: >thanks.
>
>Most Unix systems know what systems they can talk to from 2 places
>1) Local host file called /etc/hosts
>2) NIS (used to be Yellow Pages) get a list by ypcat hosts
>
>This will not tell you what systems are physically connected (ie on
>the same cable) but it will give you a list of "known" systems.

Not always.  On my system, for example, /etc/hosts includes only LOCAL
systems.  In my case, only machines ending in *.cs.unc.edu are included.
Finger, talk, mail, etc, all use a distributed domain lookup.

It might be nice to know what machines there are available to your
machine, but can you imagine the magnitude of such a list?  Our CS dept.
here has several hundred systems, therefore several hundred hostnames.
If you extended that to include every other system known to my machine,
the list would include every workstation, pc, supercomputer, dataserver,
terminal server, on and on and on, connected by ANY hard means to my
machine.

Such a list would be truly huge.  If Garlock wanted to know what machines
were wired directly to his machine, I would venture the following guesses:

1. Exactly one machine, your network server (which is in turn connected to
   many other machines).
2. Every other machine in your network, plus "out," i.e., inet or whatever.
3. No other machines, and you in fact do not exist and are simply a figment
   of my imagination.

Whichever of the above cases is true, (especially no. 3), this should be
transparent to the user, and in most cases, transparent to the typical
systems programmer as well.

Trey Harris
--Stranger in a Strange Thread!
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Access sites/Phone # in Riverside County
From: misha@netlink.cts.com (Michael Glosson)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 13:29:27 PDT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

Does anyone out there know of any Public Access Sites for Usenet 
Newgroups and Internet mail in Riverside County, specifically around the 
cities of Riverside, Colton, and Grand Terrace.  I'm trying to find an 
access point for a friend of mine who lives in that region.
 
PS...the dial up phone numbers for such sites would be handy.
 
Mike

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Newsgroups: cis.general,news.newusers.questions
From: spp@crane.cis.ufl.edu (Stephen P. Potter)
Subject: Re: Help finding machines on a system.
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:40:59 GMT

In article <9210101857.AA10738@toto.cis.ohio-state.edu> garlock@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (erin jon garlock) writes:
>
>I would like to know if there is a way to find out what machines are connected to any particular system.  
>example%   cis.ohio-state.edu   has lionfish and skink and flamingo....
>example%   plymouth.edu		has oz
>and so on and so forth.
>
>where can i find this info for any random system??
>thanks.

Most sites have anonymous ftp enabled, usually aliases to ftp.site
They almost always have a local hosts lists.

Steve



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From: wernercg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig Werner)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Telnet Freezes
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:28:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello, everyone.

I often use Telnet and all too frequently have Telnet 
sessions come to an abrupt halt when my screen suddenly freezes.  
Sometimes I cannot even issue the Telnet escape character to 
begin the process of forcing a closed connection after a long 
freeze.  The freezes often occur at the end of a stream of data
from the host, such as, for instance, at the "end article xxx" 
prompt.  I am using a 9600-baud v.32 modem and an
MS-DOS machine to logon to a VMS machine.  I have handshaking 
set to CTS/RTS.  Any ideas on what may be causing these 
abrupt stops?  Local gurus are stumped.

Craig Werner <wernercg@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Robert Stephen Rodgers)
Subject: Is there Qmail?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:15:10 GMT


	Awhile back when I was using a local system called Hallucination to access the Internet, and one of it's really nice features was a QMAIL program that produced the .QWK mail packets that are so popular to PC users.  (It's also a lot easier to maintain a database of certain messages if you're using an offline mail reader).

	Anyway, I can use my school account and all (and on the NeXTStations, it cooks)--but dialing in and using our rn program is a pain.  Does anybody know a site I could telnet to (?) that has a QWK packet maker?  

	(Although I don't relish transferring a 600k mail packet with kermit...)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: Shareware
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:16:26 GMT

In article <7OCT199210070838@elroy.uh.edu> st1op@elroy.uh.edu (Aguilar, Amado E.) writes:
>Is there is shareware news group on the internet and if there is what is the
>name of it.

Yes.

comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted 
comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives (broken)

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
From: Sander.Davidson@p6.f112.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Sander Davidson)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: What is PKZipFix?
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 15:13:02 -0100

 m> Anybody know what PKZipFix is and/or an ftp or telnet source where I
 m> can get it?

PKZIPFIX comes with PKZIP, the compression tool made by PKWare (Phil Katz). If
a compressed ZIP-archive gets damaged, PKUNZIP won't be able to decompress it.
In that case you can use PKZIPFIX to 'rescue' any of the contents which are
still reasonably intact. You'll find complete info in the documentation in PKZ110.EXE (146 Kb). I'm on fidonet and not familiar with ftp/telnet. Try a local bbs!

>>sander.davidson@contrast.wlink.nl

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: FTP List with Files ?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:29:40 GMT

ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis) writes:
: 
: In a previous article, ricky@mindvox.phantom.com (Richard Velez) says:
: 
: >Can anyone tell me where I could a list of all the FTP which offers Files 
: >for downloading ??. Thanks...
: >
: news.answers
: -- 

News.answers does have the FAQ list of sites for downloading from. However
if you are looking for program names, you are out of luck, there are 
too many to put into a FAQ. Use the archie services to locate what you
want, or gopher.

Think about how big the list of programs would be if written down. The FAQ
of sites alone spans 4+ messages.
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From: troy.thomas@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (TROY DAVID THOMAS)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: how many people subscribe to news?
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:54:34 GMT
Organization: University of Utah

How many people subscribe to news throughout the world?
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Quanti persone leggano news???
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:56:52 GMT

robert.clifford@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (ROBERT LEE CLIFFORD) writes:
:      I just wanted to know how many people read news everyday?

There are several local *.news.stats groups. I don't see a 
world wide one, but I think the world wide stats are publish
to these.
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: "Problem with your active file"
Reply-To: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:02:45 GMT

I'm not a news expert, so I wonder about the origin and legitimacy of  
the following that popped up in my mailbox not long ago. I've been  
running news for about 1.5 years and have never seen this before. Was  
this caused by a glitch in my news system (which seemed to be running  
normally before and after this message) or was this the product of a  
malicious intrusion?

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 07:36:22 -0500
From: news
Subject: Problems with your active file
Apparently-To: usenet

The following newsgroups are not valid and should be removed.
	alt.architecture
	alt.binaries.pictures
        [......
		remaining newsgroups in my active file
						       ....]
	rec.video.satellite
	sci.bio

You can do this by executing the commands:
	 /usr/lib/newsbin/maint/delgroup alt.architecture
	 [.....etc, etc, for every news group listed above...]

Naturally, I did not respond to this invitation to destroy my news  
system, but my curiosity is killing me about this. Even the time  
doesn't make sense - this message was apparently emitted during a  
routine hourly newsrun - not during the daily processing. This is what  
makes me think that this was caused by a control message.

Can anyone explain this to me?

Thanks!

John Bartley
john@wpa.com
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: hramchan@cwis.unomaha.edu (Harish Ramchandani)
Subject: Announcement for Newusers
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:29:47 GMT

Presidential Election date is November 3, Tuesday.  Get yourselves
registered to vote.  Technically  you can register till te last
day. But you may not get the acknowledgement for the registration
in time. Therefore register early. Call your County Election Commission 
for more information.

This is a public service message from  Creighton University, College of
Business Administration
From: marlene@cubenet.sub.org (Ika Geers)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Description of all groups?
Keywords: lists groups all.all
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:40:07 GMT
Distribution: news

Where can I get a short Description of all newsgroups?
I didn't find one in news.lists.



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From: katherine.cook@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (KATHERINE COOK)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Quante persone leggono "news" ogni giorno?
Keywords: News
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:52:12 GMT
Organization: University of Utah


	I am interested in knowing how many people read news throughout the 
world every day.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: dedek@meaddata.com (Mike Dedek)
Subject: Re: Announcement for Newusers
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:37:26 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct9.013518.22378@geovision.gvc.com>, news@geovision.gvc.com (News Administrator) writes:
|> hramchan@cwis.unomaha.edu (Harish Ramchandani) writes:
|> >This is a public service message from  Creighton University, College of
|> >Business Administration
|> 
|> This "public service message" is of no service to that large proportion of
|> net users who are not living in or citizens of that one country to which
|> this applies.
|> 
|> Next time you want to do the net a service, read the manuals first,
|> especially the bit about "Distribution".
|> 
|> Paul Tomblin, News Administrator Extraordinaire.  (pt@geovision.gvc.com)

Not only that, it is also of no service to any net user not living in the
state to which the original message applies.  Voter registration varies
from state to state within the USA.

-Mike Dedek
From: martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Quante persone leggono "news" ogni giorno?
Keywords: News
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:26:45 GMT
Organization: CAD.LAB S.p.A., Bologna, Italia


Hmmm, let's see now:

In article <paul.bergera.1@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU>, Subject:  quante persone
leggono il news?, Paul Bergera says:

:> It seems that everybody is in a hurry these days.  How many people actually 
:> take time to read news?


In article <robert.clifford.2@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU>, Subject:  Quanti
persone leggano news???, Robert Lee Clifford says:

:> I just wanted to know how many people read news everyday?


And in article <katherine.cook.1@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU>, Subject:  Quante
persone leggono "news" ogni giorno?, Katherine Cook says:

:> I am interested in knowing how many people read news throughout
:> the world every day.


What a FUNNY coincidence - three very similar questions from three users
on the SAME node, and ALL THREE with what look like an attempt at
Italian in the "Subject:"  (a "brava!"  to Katherine, the only one to
get the Italian right:  Paul slipped since "il" is a singular article
while "news" is a plural noun, and Robert Lee went wrong twice, as
"Quanti" is masculine while "persone" is feminine, and "leggano" is
subjunctive mood, while the proper indicative mood is "leggono"), which
of course is what piqued my curiosity, what with me being Italian and
all that...

What crazy kind of a class assignment was THAT?  Or, was it a bet or
something? Oh come on, let us know...
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