From: richard@octel.com (Richard Karasik)
Subject: Re: frontrubs
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:12:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.003200.15022@ultb.isc.rit.edu> cms2839@ultb.isc.rit.edu (a.stranger) writes:
>In article <emc.720913944@tomalak> emc@doe.carleton.ca (Eli Chiprout) writes:
>>In <LPQSBCHG@cc.swarthmore.edu> chorwit1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Cathy Horwitz) writes:
>>
>>>learn to control your hormones.  When you want to get excited and tense
>>>that's fine, but you should also be able to touch someones breast without
>>>thinking of sex
>>
>>You've obviously never been a sexually charged male  :-)
>
>				i have . i still agree with Cathy .
>

I even second and third what Cathy and a.stranger says.

I have been male most of my life (except for a few minutes of indecision during
 gestation ;) I have also done massage for over 25 years. When I started, I thought
 HEY!! How does a nerd like me get to meet the babes (Well I didnt really think like
 that -but this is family network!:) I mean how can I get close enough to one
 to touch one without them seeing the red-eyed slavering hormone driven nutcase
 that was tring to touch them.!!!

 AHA sneak up behind them and do  shoulder rubs -they feel sooo good, and people are
 hooked before they can turn around and see whats doing what to whom ..

 WRONG -- people know people react to energy and guess what a lot of people
 that were my friends and females (yeah A circumstance I had in college was that
 all my friends were female, and all the females I knew were only friends (sigh))
 put up with my hormonal state as long as I just rubbed shoulders.  IE they knew
 without havingto have it spelled out to them that I was kinda of a sleazeball in
 healers clothing.

 However, I had an epihany of sorts when I found that my touching people at times
 actually had a therapeutic effect, IE they felt better. What's more, in those
 circumstances I didn't particularly feel hormonal - I felt as if
 I was at the eye of an immense Hurricane -centered, imperturbable, 
 connected between heaven and earth, powerful.  Spooky doesn't quite describe it.

 I then embarked on a life-long learning process to play with therapeutic touch.
 And yes as a precursor to other more hormonal activities the skill I have garnered
 in many years is wonderful for us. HOWSOMESOEVER - There is a distinction. For
 someone who has little experience in theraputic touch  they will probably
 experience it as touching has been previously experienced -either freindly or sexy
 or whatever -so be it, because that is what you came to the party with.

 WHat we are doing here is inviting y'all to get beyond that for a moment to
 experience what caring for somebody can really bring out in YOU!

 So to the guy who wants front rubs -- I've seen your face leering in times square,
 Ive seen it coming out of beer ads, I have felt your hot stale breath on
 my freedoms, and I invite you to play elsewhere or learn some of the rules
 of this game.

 Now back to your regularly scheduled sleazeball.....

 Richard

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