HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Allen)
Subject: Re: ROBO-COPULATION
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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 18:42:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.072027.13386@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnakamur@nyx.cs.du.edu (Damo Nakamura) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.170645.26534@ifi.uio.no> mariusw@ifi.uio.no (Marius Ibenhardt Watz) writes:
>>
>>>I think the main problem of 95% of the people in this world is that ever
>>>since Freud, we've all got to psychoanalyze everything with sex.  Look,
>>>guys, I'm sorry, but sex is an evolutionary thing.  Sex was made
>>>pleasurable because we as a species need it to reproduce.  Concepts you
>...
>
>[edited]
>>Homosexuality, an old an honored trend, springs to mind. But with all the 
>>wonders of modern technology and all that jazz, things can get quite 
>>interesting. 
>>
>
>I just thought of something on this point.  The advances of modern science
>have made it possisible to give us artificial limbs, pacemakers, etc...
>could it be possible that in a way _WE_ could be turning into machines?
>Maybe all this mechanized-sex would be good for society because in the 
>not-too-distant future we must adapt our sensibilities to deal with this fact.
>We have been constantly trying to improve our bodies through
>external/mechanized means, and I can see this, and sex carried out to an
>equally mechanized extreme...  At least we'll have greater control over
>all aspects of our sexuality.  THe downside to this will probably be a
>societal backlash.  Just remember, the trends have already been set in motion.

How true! But I don't think the changes that need to occur in our
perceptions of sexuality will be facilitated by these transformations. 
For example, there is no reason why women will dnot continue to be
discriminated against - men are those who traditionally work with
technology (society "says") and this factor will sustain conditions that 
block out any attempts for women to advance in this new sexual manner.
Besides, as DAMO says later, this phenomenon _is_ already happening, but
then again our sexual stereotypes aren't changing much.  Look at those car
commercials we all constantly refer to, flaunting the "bimbo aesthetic"
and such.  Look at most bodybuilding magazines (bodybuilding being the
area in which we most directly "machinize" our bodies) - who do we always
see on the cover?  And if there is a wman on the cover, and it's still a
"general" magazine - who's occupying the foreground?

>
>
>DAMO: just thinking-
>
>>

Geoff Allen
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From: djperry@husc11.harvard.edu (Lord of deXness)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:59:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov5.215916.17152
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Nov5.155839.21508@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>So why the fuck can't artists do whatever kind of music
>they want to do without all you assholes saying "GOD it
>was HORRIBLE".
>
>Sexplosion was by no means industrial, but it was fun.
>Deal with it.

Hmm.  A little hostile today, I see.

Pete, take a chill.  Just because an artist puts something out doesn't mean 
I have to like it, especially when it's done in a style I _really_ don't like;
i.e. country, Guns-N-Roses rock, 70s retro disco (although Deee-Lite can be fun
in moderate doses), etc.  Actually, if two songs were cut from Sexplosion (The
Lost Generation and Martini Built For Two) I could deal with it.  As it is, I 
don't like it very much and hope they do something I _do_ like. 

Big warm fuzzies to you and all your friends.
deX!
-- 
Hate is a fuzzy puppy.
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial
From: petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly)
Subject: Re: My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Date: 05 Nov 92 00:38:40 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Nov4.042041.11963@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu wrote:
> In article <3024@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch) writes:
> >What is the name of the newest Thrill Kill Kult release?  I believe it
> >was a 7" but i can't be for certain.  Someone?  I haven't seen TKK
> >mentioned at all in rec.music.industrial.  Do you think it belongs here?
> >I don't think i know of a category for their queer, 70s disco, Wax Trax
> >sound, let alone a newsgroup!  Talk to me, Thrill Kill fans, i know
> >you're there!
> 
> 	Basically, NO!  MLwtTKK doesn't belong in rec.music.industrial.
> Not by a long shot.  If anything they would belong in alt.alternative (even
> though there isn't one), rec.music.misc will have to do.
> 	And WITHOUT ANY DOUBT THEY DON'T BELONG IN ALT.CYBERPUNK and
> ALT.SEX!!!!!

I always classified them as a little industrial.  The techniques 
they used in mixing and editing seem to be quite similar to those
of industrial bands.  However, They belong in alt.cyberpunk as much as
you do.  They belong anywhere where there are enough people interested
in discussing them/their music.  That may be here, or may not, but
please don't make judgements as to who belongs where.  All you have a right
to say is whether you belong somewhere.

petesk@microsoft.com
My Opinions...
From: sol@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (larry carrier)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
Subject: Re: New Zine Available...but has nothing todo with Re: ROBO-COPULATION
Summary: the site (wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS was omitted..?
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:54:09 GMT

Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Keywords: 

don't know why it was ommited, but it was...anyway, it was there today when I
checked...
From: chubbard@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Charles William Hubbard)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
Subject: Re: My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:19:34 GMT
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities, Richland

>>sound, let alone a newsgroup!  Talk to me, Thrill Kill fans, i know
>>you're there!
>
>	Basically, NO!  MLwtTKK doesn't belong in rec.music.industrial.
>Not by a long shot.  If anything they would belong in alt.alternative (even
>though there isn't one), rec.music.misc will have to do.

Actually, there is a newsgroup called alt.music.alternative which I read
periodically.  I even seem to remember seeing some TKK posts over there.
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial
From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: ROBO-COPULATION
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 05:01:34 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <Bx6Iz0.5p1@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp) writes:
>jselwonk and pbancrof logged into their nyx.cs.du.edu accounts from guess
>where...

Alright allready, you've brow-beat me into it.

Yes, there is a conspiracy against you, Matthew Neil Sharp, and all of us
are in it.

"JAERTHUR CLAREMONT" Is not a school, it's a code word for all of us who's sole goal in life is to make your net.experience miserable.  Do you remember
your first flamewar?  That was us.  We've been watching every post you
make, reading your mail, even sneaking into your directory and reading
what you save.

All of this has the sole purpose in annoying you at every turn.  Eventually,
we want to drive you so crazy you will become the first person to strangle
themselves with a modem line.

There are you happy?

JBIGAL CLAREMONT.

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From: v050skzy@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Ricardo Melendez)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.sex,alt.sex.stories,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: LAST POST
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <$3*vH&6oha@atlantis.psu.edu>, lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette) writes...
>In article <1992Oct28.043147.4733@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dhedd@nyx.cs.du.edu (Deth Hedd) writes:
>>BY THE WAY FOR THOSE OF YOU WONDERING WHO I AM MY NAME IS ROGER ANDREW
>>NILSSON AND I LIVE IN THE ORANGE COUNTY AREA OF LOS ANGELES.  I MAINTAIN
>>MY E-MAIL ACCOUNT TO RECEIVE TRANSMISSIONS FROM SATAN.
> 
>Damn, that's why Satan hasn't contacted me lately, he lost my e-mail adress!
> 
>							      -Lee
HEY!!  I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHETHER SATAN COMUNICATES WITH YOU
OR NOT.  KEEP THAT FOR YOURSELF AND STOP USING THIS NEWSGROUP
FOR OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PLEASURE AND
SEX

                                RICK
From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
Subject: Re: My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:16:21 GMT
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <96615@netnews.upenn.edu> kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (Bob Kupiec) writes:

>>That last thing they released that I know of was a single for Sex On Wheelz.  I

>Which was featured in the (fantastic!) movie _Cool_World_.  It is also
>available on the CW CD.

There is also a maxi-single CD with four mixes of Sex On Wheels plus
a track called Farout.  My favorite SOW is the Motor City remix.

--Rob   spray@convex.com
Xref: sparky alt.industrial:585 alt.rap:5885 alt.music.alternative:14994
From: mcw4765@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.C. Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.rap,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: rap is dead
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:56:50 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: mcw4765@ultb

In article <1992Nov4.111445.26110@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dskimish@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Skimishara) writes:
>
>ok,I thought I'd try my hand at writing a story in memory of dhead and his
>wonderfull posts.  ok, here goes.
>
>I never liked his music, that guy who lived below me in the dorm.  He
>played his loud rap music night and day, day and night untill I could not
>sleep.  His speakers were the finest tecnology that the western world
>could produce in China but I still hated him.  His speakers were left
>outside his room with the 4' woofers driving nails into my brain.  I felt
>I could no longer take this torture so I went to my room and grabbed my
>Physics book.  It was a weighty tome and it made a soft thud as I dropped
>it on his head from the balcony above.  When he was unconcious, I went
>down to retrieve the book and borrowing his baseball bat I proceded to
>reduce his speakers to a pile of wood, plastic and assorted electronic
>pieces.  Then when I was finished, I tool the leads from his stereo and
>stuck them in his mouth.  He at first showed no reaction untill I went
>into the room and cranked his stereo up to 10.  I could see the bass beats
>flow through him as his body twitched on every beat.  My work done, I
>picked up my book, walked up the stairs and opened myself a beer to
>celebrate a job well done.

Was is St. Ides or Eight-ball?
Bang,Zoom
I'm out like a pit-bull in heat.

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Xref: sparky alt.industrial:676 alt.sex:35622 alt.sex.bondage:21543 alt.cyberpunk:5641
From: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage,alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Ye Golden Rule
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:47:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.5.23

In article <IezUi0C00WBOM6W3YQ@andrew.cmu.edu> mf2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Raymond Feely) writes:
>Steven Greever writes...
>
>>If we each followed the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have
>>them do unto you", there would be no problems in society.AA
>
>    I disagree. 

Me too. I always thought the Golden Rule was:
"Those with the gold make the rules".

Sorry, that's off-topic. But I had to say it.

--
Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au         This post made from 100% recycled electrons.
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: rlinnema@jarthur.claremont.edu (Russ **Crow T Robot** Linnemann)
Subject: Matthew, the dumb fuck
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:09:31 GMT


For some unknown reason, this moron (Matthew Neill Sharp) thinks? 
that everybody who logs in from jarthur.claremont.edu is the same
person.  Is everybody who logs in from andrew at Carnegie Mellon
the same person?  I don't think so.  Quit being so paranoid.  There's
no conspiracy by the people of Claremont to take over USENET.  Chill
out and quit the stupid "finger posts".
--Russ--
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial,alt.cyberpunk
From: dnakamur@nyx.cs.du.edu (Damo Nakamura)
Subject: Re: ROBO-COPULATION
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 07:20:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.170645.26534@ifi.uio.no> mariusw@ifi.uio.no (Marius Ibenhardt Watz) writes:
>
>>I think the main problem of 95% of the people in this world is that ever
>>since Freud, we've all got to psychoanalyze everything with sex.  Look,
>>guys, I'm sorry, but sex is an evolutionary thing.  Sex was made
>>pleasurable because we as a species need it to reproduce.  Concepts you
...

[edited]
>Homosexuality, an old an honored trend, springs to mind. But with all the 
>wonders of modern technology and all that jazz, things can get quite 
>interesting. 
>

I just thought of something on this point.  The advances of modern science
have made it possisible to give us artificial limbs, pacemakers, etc...
could it be possible that in a way _WE_ could be turning into machines?
Maybe all this mechanized-sex would be good for society because in the 
not-too-distant future we must adapt our sensibilities to deal with this fact.
We have been constantly trying to improve our bodies through
external/mechanized means, and I can see this, and sex carried out to an
equally mechanized extreme...  At least we'll have greater control over
all aspects of our sexuality.  THe downside to this will probably be a
societal backlash.  Just remember, the trends have already been set in motion.


DAMO: just thinking-

>
>Whether or not mechanistic sex is _desirable_ or actually _sexy_ is
>not up to me. Personally, cars or jet fighters don't excite me much.
>However, there _is_ something strangely/perversely attractive about
>Giger's very grotesqueness...

Hmmm.. maybe it _is_ already happening.....

> 
>--
>- It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
> 
>Marius Watz, Institute of Informatics, Oslo, Norway
>E-mail: mariusw@ifi.uio.no


DAMO
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial
From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp)
Subject: Re: ROBO-COPULATION
Followup-To: alt.test,misc.test,alt.newbie,alt.geek
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center and Gift Shop
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:36:53 GMT

In article <Nov05.050134.9421@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith) writes:
>Yes, there is a conspiracy against you, Matthew Neil Sharp, and all of us
>are in it.

Please note that my name is spelled as follows: "Matthew Neill Sharp."

The quotes and punctuation are optional, but preferred.
Please use the listed spelling as a model for references to me.

>
>"JAERTHUR CLAREMONT" Is not a school, it's a code word for all of us who's sole goal in life is to make your net.experience miserable.  Do you remember
>your first flamewar?  That was us.  We've been watching every post you
>make, reading your mail, even sneaking into your directory and reading
>what you save.
>

Please note that the correct hostname is as follows: JARTHUR.CLAREMONT.EDU


The capitalization is optional, but preferred.
Please use the listed spelling as a model for references to Harvey Mudd
College's machine.


>All of this has the sole purpose in annoying you at every turn.  Eventually,
>we want to drive you so crazy you will become the first person to strangle
>themselves with a modem line.

Not dissimilar from my own, eh?

>
>There are you happy?


Oh yes.  For I have had a wonderful day.
Allow me to tell you about it;
I started the day with a nice new cold.
I have found that a cold enables me to
stay at home and avoid work with relatively
successful results.




OPTIONAL INFORMATION OF MORE PERTINANCE TO REC>MUSIC.INDUSTRIAL THAN
THAN THE ABOVE:

	Anyone going to see Negativland on Nov. 14th?
	Anyone who I might like to meet, and who might like
	to meet me?  Net people?  Anyone?   Anyone?



	Yeah, yeah, yeah.




So there I was, with a flat tire.  Unbelievable.
69th Street.  I thought I was dead.
So this cop pulls up.
"What seems to be the problem?"
I let him look at the tire, and back at me.
He waits for a response.
Amazing.
"Well, sir, that thing right there is called a 'tire',
 and they need to be filled with air for the car to work.
 Mine seems to have been cut, and so its having a little
 trouble holding the air it needs.  Maybe you can help me
 out?  I need to change tires..."
He grimaces.
"Sorry, we aren't allowed to help do things like that."
"Well, then maybe you can stop back in about an hour
 and pick up my dead body?  I'd sure appreciate it..."
So he leaves.
Then this nice African man pulls up behind me.
Turns out he's got a flat, too.  So he changes my tire,
and then I let him use my jack to change his.






Get it?




Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu                             oyh.
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From: ics.cfay3@Control.Com (Charles W. Fay, III)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
Subject: industrial culture
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:46:47 GMT
Reply-To: ics.cfay3@control.com
Organization: Industrial Computing Society

untold millions -- come on, get real!!
This is the "they said" argument, no one can disprove it because no one 
can be held accountable.

Western Culture i.e., Christian has many accomplishments including 
hospitals, eliminating child labor, raising women to the status of 
people not chattel etc.

Human greed has often reduced the benefits and even distorted the
results into negatives.  That is the fault of people not Christianity.

Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,rec.music.industrial
From: cardo@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Ric Crabbe)
Subject: Re: My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:47:23 GMT

gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Allen) writes:

>Granted, these were excellent albums, but so is Sexplosion!
>Why, oh why is it that people harp on a band for crossing genres, for "not
>being industrial???"  Does "not industrial" exclusively imply "bad"?

It's not that 'not industrial' == 'bad' but that you don't want something
you like changing on you.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.  There are 
probably a good number of people who like industrial and don't like 
pop.  That given, a good industrial band switching to pop is bound to piss
them off.  Imagine your favorite band suddenly taking up bulgarian folk
music.  Might annoy you too. If you happen to like the new genre your band
finds itself in, well bully for you.
personally I liked Sexplosion, but thought it was not as good as 
'I See Good Spirits...' or 'Kooler than Jesus'.  Bottom line: If they come
out with something new, I'll go buy it 

>Geoff Allen
-----------------------
Ric Crabbe		cardo@cs.ucla.edu
"Corporate Rock STILL Sucks"
-- 
I didn't know you had a perfect ass until you walked away.
Forgive me for not falling in love with your face or your conversation.
	-Leonard Cohen
cardo@cs.ucla.edu
From: cluster@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (General Access)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: What is Jungle?  Any Jungalists out there?
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:11:32 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <17238@mindlink.bc.ca> Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca (Manjit Bedi) writes:

>I had the extreme pleasure of seeing DJ Ganja Max and DJ Hype play a club
>in Osaka, Japan a month ago.  Ganja max did this fab Reggae style rap as
>Dj Hype spun those discs.  The music was quite fast.  For the life of me
>I cannot remeber what the songs were like but the only the impression I got.
>These two guys are from London.  DJ Hype told me that he plays at a club
>called Hysteria.

>The next day I met another guy from the UK: DJ Geddes.  He told that probably
>what I was hearing was Jungle.  He told me that people who are into Jungle
>are called Jungalists.  He the heart of the music was Dub. He said the music
>was only white label stuff.  I have not heard anyone mention Jungle since I
>got back home to Canada.  No one here has heard of if it.

>So I seek enlightenment if you please!
>--
>        Manjit Bedi
>                ( Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca or manjit@inde.bc.ca )


JUNGLE rules and Manchester is the centre!!
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: GRID
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:04:15 GMT

Who likes the GRID? I had the LP but it couldn't match the floatation
single, which was sublime. Pre-Orb ambient, and as good as any of the Orb's
tracks. If anyone has a CD of Floatation for sale, let me know... I only
have vinyl.

What is figure of 8 like?

Morgen das SonnenSystem!

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For a cassette of SonnenSystem tracks, studio produced and mastered to DAT
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines)
Subject: Re: What is Jungle?  Any Jungalists out there?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:37:00 GMT


jungle is: a very bad term for bass-ridden breakbeat techno...

lots of crisp drums that have a "reggae" vibe in em ---> 'ragga' techno.
deep low frequency bass that makes your heart thump. reggae samples and
singing, etc... speed is usually pretty fast and it is very manic...

examples: nu-matic, rufige cru, tek 9, sl2, etc...most stuff on jumpin and
pumpin, xl, reinforced, j4m...

i guess the music that body release is now doing is pretty close to htis
description. fast breakbeats and vocal samples, low bass.. etc..
(plug for my band...)

correct me if i am wrong.


sines
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