HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman)
Subject: Re: Summary of prices... (PPI, in particular)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:02:34 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <Aug.26.18.57.33.1992.13741@pilot.njin.net> birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:
>gtoal@cursci.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>
>>If anyone wants to update this with better prices and more modems,
>>please do.
>
>>Practical P.	405		Action
>
>I got my PM14400FXSA from PC Connection for $399 +shipping, back when it was
>so new most folks thought it was vapourware.  I can't really see the prices
>going _up_, unless demand's been really high.
>
>>(The only personal experience I've had of any of these is:  twincom - worked
>>fine every day since I got it 6 months ago.  Dallas - dead within a week.
>>Can't vouch for any of the others.)
>
>I can vouch for the Practical Peripherals... mine's worked flawlessly since
>early June in modem mode.

    Mine hangs all the time during ZMODEM downloads (from Channel 1, Cambridge,MA)
    both with Telix 3.15 and Robocomm 4.2.  Tt appears to work with WINQVT, but 
    I can't figure out why...   

    Stay away from PM14400FXSA.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: all opinions are mine.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: richb@kronos.com (Rich Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Compatibility between vendors
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:50:11 GMT
Organization: Kronos Inc. / Waltham, MA
Disclaimer: This posting is a personal opinion and not that of Kronos Inc.

About two years ago, I set up a modem pool at my company which now proves
totally inadequate for our needs.  (It consists of a then-top-of-the-
line Ven-Tel RM9600 and a couple of Practical Peripherals 2400 units,
plus one Telebit T2500).

In a couple of months we're replacing all of this equipment with state-
of-the-art units, and I need pointers on compatibility between different
vendors (preferably, a two-dimensional chart showing the maximum baud
rate/throughput available between each pair of vendors).

Meanwhile, I've been trying to buy a new modem for my home computer and
have found that no manufacturer's product other than Practical Peripherals
can talk to our Ven-Tel any faster than 2400bps.  Should I junk the
Ven-Tel, or ask them for a product update?

Finally, how do I determine whether the telephone line quality is a problem,
in terms simple enough for our PBX folks to comprehend and negotiate with
Ma Bell?

-rich
From: vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout Plus Bug, Feature or Operator Error??
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:29:20 GMT
Organization: none

davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik) writes:
>>In article <BtvECB.A34@ais.org> I wrote:
>>>I just got my Digicom Scout Plus and seem to be having a little
>>>trouble getting it set up.  The factory default is to have the modem
>>>try to connect at 14,400 and automatically downshift to whatever the
>>>receiving modem can handle.  That works fine, and I get a connect, but
>>>the modem still thinks it is connected at 14,400.  I have to escape to
>>>command mode and manually change the modem rate setting so that I can
>>>communicate with whatever I am communicating with.
>>>
>>    Well, I should have continued experimenting before putting my foot
>>in my mouth (i.e. posting).  Turning off error correction gets
>>everything to work just fine.


Dave, can you please mail/post your register settings if it's not
too expensive (with a line re: who you talk to and what rate you get) ?

I just purchased a Scout+ and have been totally unable to connect
to my feed site, who runs a WorldBlazer...I connect, but everything's
total garbage till the modem punts and hangs up.  I've walked through
all *E0 to *E10 and the modem either disconnects immediately or it
gets garbage .

I get 1620 cps zmodem to a USR-DS and have gotten 640 cps uucp to
a trailblazer, so the modem itself can connect to stuff.


>>     My one gripe so far with the Digicom Scout Plus is the
>>documentation.  They should include a chapter describing practical
>>applications situations.


I'd kill for a real-world FAQ that said, 
	- ok, you have a (insert major maker here) on one end
		and you have a (insert other one here) and I'm
		talking [slip|uucp|zmodem], set your registers thusly...
	- here's how you can get a list of known bugs between your
		modem and modem X.

>Note also that the documentation doesn't necessarily reflect what
>the modem will actually do and there was no addenda with mine.

They have a lot of nerve calling it a "users' manual".  It's neither
a manual nor for users.  Worst piece of useless junk I ever read.


-- 
   ---------   Vince Skahan   -----------   vince@atc.boeing.com   ---------   
   Is there a more perfect road paving material than what you get when
   you supersaturate Sweet'N'Low and CoffeeMate in a mug of coffee ?
From: honey@citi.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: NetFax & ZyXEL U-1496E ... are they compatible???
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:19:11 GMT
Reply-To: honey@citi.umich.edu
Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan

the internal fax modem on my (ibm l40) laptop does class 1 only.  i
don't suppose there's any software out there that does class 1 ...

grumble.  i didn't think so.

	peter
From: swinokur@pbs.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL modems - 9600T/v42bis
Date: 25 Aug 92 11:47:31 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

> 	Has anybody else had problems with the ZyXEL modems when a connect
> is made at 9600 (or 9600T) v32 and using v42bis compression (presumably
> based on v42 error correction)? I have connected at v32bis/v42bis, v32/MNP5,
> v32/MNP4 and v32/NONE without any problem whatsoever. What seems to happen
> is when some characters are sent, renegotiation then occurs and fails so the
> modem hangs up. I don't know what modems I'm connecting to. My ROM version
> is 4.09c (I don't have en eprom burner or eproms).
> 
> 	Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> 				Ian
Ian, I have two Zyxel 1496's and have no V32 connect problems at all, either
with a V42bis connect, MNP5, or MNP4. I am using the 1 megabit eproms and I've
used version 4.10 through 5.01 with no difficulties.

Stuart Winokur
Public Broadcasting Service
Alexandria, Virginia
From: James.Woo@ebu.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Dallas Fax V.32bis modem
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:56:44 GMT
Reply-To: James.Woo@ebu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson TX

Hi,
  Does anyone has any experience with Dallas Fax V.32bis modem? Somebody
selling a PC version for $249 around here and I wonder if it is any good.

  Any information I get would be appreciated.
James
From: JMAASKANT@THORIN.UTHSCSA.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: RE-USRobotics SysOp deal
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:20:37 GMT
Organization: The Internet

att!news.cs.indiana.edu!syscon!gator!larry@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Larry Snyder) 
writes:
>
> But with the Worldblazer and TurboPEP you get slightly better throughput
> than one does with a USR 16.8 HST -- I believe the SYSOP price on the USR
> DS is $449 verses the Telebit WB SYSOP price of $428.  Both are quality modems,
> and the USR offers better real-time latency performance.

Eh?  Telebit *HAS* a sysop program again?  Details?  Last time I checked
they told me it had been discontinued.  (so I bought another HST/DS) 

Cheers,
Jan
From: William.Nolle@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (William Nolle)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: What is the fastest communication protocol to transfer file ?
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 06:10:40 CDT
Organization: Micro Magic

WN>Hi, does any body know what is the fastest file transfer protocol
WN>? Kermit, ZMODEM, YMODEM, Xmodem , etc ?

Kent, I believe none of the above are, Zmodem I would say is the best
overall for noisy lines, but YMODEM/G I believe is the fastest if you
can use it.

--- Via Silver Xpress V2.28
--  
 = Micro Magic, 830-2362,  Alabama's Usenet/Fidonet gateway.
 = Reply-To:  William.Nolle@umagic.FIDONET.ORG
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: What's a good 14400 modem?? (Intel?)
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:51:13 GMT

randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) writes:

>Gak!  Vernon, you ain't no dummy, so something subtle was going on.  We
>regularly get 3.7kcps+ on SLIP with ka9q and PC-Route with these puppies.
>They're the best we've tried, and we've tried and tried.

>Our configs are simple.

>  AT&F"H3\N3E0Q1&D0&W

what baud do you lock the DTE at?
-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.modems:12589 biz.comp.telebit:860 comp.unix.sysv386:13643
From: mark@lowton.rn.com (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: WB connections with SupraFAX with v.32bis
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:15:21 GMT
Organization: Mark-one Communications


In article <BtJE2D.12w@gator.rn.com>, larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
> mark@lowton.rn.com (Mark Powell) writes:
> 
> >  I get ~1550cps talking to jshark's Supra FaxModem. This is with v32bis,
> >v42, v42bis; compressed news; a HST DS v32bis on my end; me calling him;
> >Dell SVR4 V2.1 on this end; ISC on the other; 38400 DTE at my end; I
> >believe 38400 DTE at the other; g(7,64).
> 
> You are running Dell.  On the machine I am using (not this one) we
> are behind the times running an old copy of SCO (3.2 2.2).   
> 
> So jshark has a SupraFax modem?  I thought he connected with us via 
> a USR v.32bis.

He's only got it recently. Used a Racal 12000bps before.

> 
> Have you played with changing uucp to G(7,512) -- or at least G(7,128)?

Yes, ISC UUCP doesn't support G. Tried Taylor UUCP with g(7,512) and the
connection just barfed. That was Taylor 1.01 though. I remember Ian (Taylor)
being informed of some bug in his >64 byte packets, so maybe thats fixed
in 1.03, but that still doesn't mean ISC will like it :) I have also
tried e, but ISC (even though it claims to support it) has some problems.
This is with Dell calling ISC though. It's the other way around when he calls
your Dell machine.

> Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
-- 
Mark Powell

mark@lowton.rn.com	uunet!ibmpcug!lowton!mark	Nr. Manchester, UK.
Home: +44 942 714317	USENET news and email feeds available. Just ask.
From: dowling@oasys.dt.navy.mil (John Dowling)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Dial tone, but no dialing
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:27:43 GMT
Reply-To: dowling@oasys.dt.navy.mil (John Dowling)
Distribution: na
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I have a perplexing problem (at least to me it is) and I was hoping
somebody out there has run into a similar problem and solved it.  I
have a Compudyne 2400 baud fax/modem (internal) installed in an AT machine
I built myself.  Recently, I've run into this problem;  when I go to
dial out, I can hear a dial tone for about 5 or 6 seconds, but no familiar
touch-tone dialing.  After 5 or 6 seconds, the dial tone is lost and
the message "NO DIALTONE" comes up.  At first I thought the problem
might be with my CD-ROM driver.  This had caused problems previously
and I thought this might be the problem.  Unfortunately, after booting
with relatively "clean" boot disk (I have a mouse driver and a joystick
driver and no other boot up programs), the problem still persisted.
The modem can answer the phone and typing AT on the command line returns
the familiar "OK".  Both the modem and my software are setup for COM
4.  I have a mouse using COM 1.  If it means anything to someone, the
last time the modem worked was when I successfully received a fax a
week ago.  I am using QL2FAX communications software.

If anyone has any ideas on solving my quandry, I'd appreciate it greatly.


				  John Dowling
				  dowling@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: bender@oobleck (Duke of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: PABX stuffs up Modem ????
Date: 1 Sep 1992 22:29:13 GMT
Organization: SPARK's R US
Reply-To: bender@oobleck.eng.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: oobleck
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

wilson%Solomon.Technet.sg (Wilson Leong) writes:
: 
: Does anyone know/experience of certain brands of PABX/switchboards that
: cause problems for the modem? I tried to connect a 2400b modem to a
: Hitachi system and just could not get it to respond. ARRGHHH!! I used
: blind dialing, manual dialing but it just would not connect.

I've got a Panasonic KX-T616 PBX at home and have had no problems with my
USR dual-standard, Telebit T2000 nor several custom modems that I'm
evaluating when connecting both modem-to-modem through the PBX and when using
the PBX to connect me to one of my outside lines.

mike
From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 16550A UART VS BNU
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 22:32:03 EDT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

CT61 <CT61@polytec1.polymtl.ca> writes:

> >>By the way, what's the big diff. between a 450 and 550A?
> >
> >The only real difference is that the 16550A has a 16-byte buffer on
> >both the send and receive. The 16450 only keeps the *last* byte. So if you
> >don't fetch it before the next one comes in, it's gone...
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> What's different if I use a BNU prog instead of this 16550A ???
> ======================================================================

   You're comparing apples and oranges.  BNU is a FOSSIL - a serial driver 
used by some software but definitely not all.  If you're losing characters 
because some reasonably well-written serial driver can't service serial 
interrupts fast enough, you gain zilch by installing another one.

   Besides, software generally falls into three categories:

(1) Software which uses a FOSSIL (usually BBS software)

   Each FOSSIL has its pros and cons, but they're probably all the same - or 
very close to it - when it comes to fast interrupt response.  Changing FOSSIL 
won't help you.

(2) Software which doesn't use the FOSSIL (the majority of commercial 
software)

   Installing a FOSSIL will have, at best, no effect on these.  In some cases, 
the FOSSIL may interfere with the normal serial driver's operation.

(3) Software which can have it either way (of which I know only one: Waffle!)

   Installing a FOSSIL will almost always improve performance.

Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
geoff@zswamp.uucp, [xenitec.on.ca|m2xenix.psg.com]!zswamp!geoff (416)258-8467
"Feel for the winter but don't have a cold heart" - Little River Band, "Lady"
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: USR HST upgrade questions
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 04:29:11 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

LS> sbixby@cup.portal.com (Steven W Bixby) writes: 
>Or is it better to just buy a new V.32bis modem, or sell the HST and buy
>a new Dual Standard, or????
LS>  yes -- this would be your best bet 

let's analyze this:  user has HST, wants v.32bis--or even better, both.

Scenario 1: he can upgrade his HST straight from USR (through their upgrade
program) to a Dual Standard (new small footprint model, includes fax,
supposedly upgradeable to v.fast for $295) for a total of $350.

Scenario 2:  he can sell his HST for $300-$350, and buy a Dual Standard.  Last
I checked, prices for DS were hovering in the $750-$800 range street.  Best
case:  he sells for $350, and buys for $750.  Net cost to upgrade to Dual
Standard this way:  $400.

Let's assume some slop in the above prices, and say his net upgrade price in
Scenario 2 turns out to be the same $350 as if he just went straight to USR. 
I still think that Scenario 2 ends up costing more, if nothing else in time
and trouble to look for a buyer, arrange a price and terms, finding a vendor
for the Dual Standard, and so on.  Scenario 1 turns out to be easier and
cheaper in the long run.  A simple swap with a reputable company, and no more
money changes hands than in the sell old/buy new situation.

The original poster should definitely look into USR's upgrade program.

--Adam--
 
--  
Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH
UUCP: ...!n8emr!bluemoon!cmhgate!20.18!Adam.Frix
INET: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Some info on BFJ
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:16:43 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

I work in Norcross, GA, which is adjacent to Roswell, where I seem 
to recall BFJ is (was?) located.  Since so many folks seem to be in 
distress about their status, I thought I'd take a spin by there at 
lunch time to see what's up, but I can't find an address for them in 
the phone book.  Does anyone have a street address?

-- 
Toby Nixon, Principal Engineer      | Voice   +1-404-840-9200  Telex 401243420
Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.  | Fax     +1-404-447-0178  CIS   70271,404
P.O. Box 105203                     | BBS     +1-404-446-6336  AT&T    !tnixon
Atlanta, Georgia  30348             | UUCP uunet!hayes!tnixon  Fido   1:114/15
USA                                 | Internet                tnixon@hayes.com
From: jerry@incc.com (Jerry Rocteur)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Warning about cowboy pricing in magazines...
Summary: power supply
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:05:46 GMT
Organization: InCC.com Perwez Belgium

In article <Btnw36.2o5@ibmpcug.co.uk>, gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
> 
> I was checking up by phone on some of the modem deals in US magazines
> when I discovered that H&J's $299 Twincom price (external modem) is
> *without* power-supply!
> 
> I wonder how many other cowboys play this game?  Next time I compare
> prices I'm going to pretend I'm making an order, and ask what figure
> I actually write on the cheque...
> 
> Graham
> -- 

 I don't think that is a bad idea Graham, I buy a lot of electrical
 items from the states by mail order, this means that I have a drawer
 full of 110v power supplies which are absolutely no good to me
 I just go down to Tandy and buy a local power supply.

 If companies sold power supplies seperately, I may save a little
 money in the total price and in the price of the freight as it would
 be lighter to ship.

 Full marks to companies like JDR Microdevices who actually give you a
 choice of power supplies when you buy from them.

 A big rasberry to zoom who ship a 110v psu that gives 10.2v AC
 output with their modmems, which made it difficult for me to buy that
 sort psu with stupid AC voltage here in Belgium.

 BTW Graham, what do you do with the 110v power supplies when they get
 to you in UK ????? :-) ;-)
-- 
 __^__                                                              __^__
( ___ )------------------------------------------------------------( ___ )
 | / | Jerry Rocteur                       Email: jerry@InCC.COM    | \ |
 |___|  Independent Computer Consultants division DELDRA s.p.r.l.   |___|
(_____)------------------------------------------------------------(_____)
   ^                                                                  ^
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: kurtz@dain.stanford.edu (Kenneth Kurtz)
Subject: basic questions
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:58:51 GMT

I need some advice on buying a cheap decent modem for my Mac SE.  Is
9600 worth the extra money over 2400?  Is there a good compromise?
What companies and models are reliable?  What features are
necessary/desirable?  What should I be wary of?  Where can one find
the best prices?  Is it a good time to buy?

I'll post a summary (couldn't find FAQ).  Thanks for your help.

Ken Kurtz (kurtz@psych.stanford.edu)
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout Plus Bug, Feature or Operator Error??
Date: 2 Sep 92 02:53:19 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik) writes:

>In article <BtvECB.A34@ais.org> I wrote:
>>I just got my Digicom Scout Plus and seem to be having a little
>>trouble getting it set up.  The factory default is to have the modem
>>try to connect at 14,400 and automatically downshift to whatever the
>>receiving modem can handle.  That works fine, and I get a connect, but
>>the modem still thinks it is connected at 14,400.  I have to escape to
>>command mode and manually change the modem rate setting so that I can
>>communicate with whatever I am communicating with.
>>
>>This doesn't sound right to me so I'm guessing that it's operator
>>error.  Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>
>    Well, I should have continued experimenting before putting my foot
>in my mouth (i.e. posting).  Turning off error correction gets
>everything to work just fine.
>     My one gripe so far with the Digicom Scout Plus is the
>documentation.  They should include a chapter describing practical
>applications situations.

Note also that the documentation doesn't necessarily reflect what
the modem will actually do and there was no addenda with mine.

For example: 

  1. All registers are saved, not just the ones shown in
     2.4 Nonvolatile Memory

  2. ATI7 displays the commands that are in the current ROM.

A 'feature' when using the Scout Plus on pulse-dial lines in Japan
is that when the carrier is lost, the slight 'click' the telco makes
is intpreted as RING. If S0 != 0, the modem will try and answer what
it thinks is an incoming call. Thus if you are thinking of using the
Scout as an automatic answering modem you might want to think twice
about it if you're not in the U.S. 

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems