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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The Championship Triangle in N.C.
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:12:27 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <17844@oasys.dt.navy.mil> swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) writes:
>::And I'm real curious as to which year Kentucky won the Olympics.
>::       Jim Oliver
>:
>: ... it was in the 1947-48 season ... the team which was chosen for
>:those Olympics consisted of the bulk of the Kentucky team, one or
>:two guys from Phillips, and I think one or two other NCAA players.
>:players.   If I'm not mistaken, Rupp was coach, and he said that
>:it was his proudest moment, seeing "his boys" get gold medals.
>
>Oh, so the Kentucky team was tainted with some outside players.  :-)

Right-o.  I think the NCAA had some sort of requirements which 
dictated that a certain number of other players from other teams
had to be included.  Coaches didn't pick players the way they do now.

>In the same sense, Dean Smith could brag that "his boys" won the Olympics 
>in the 1970's - his Olypmic team was made up mostly of UNC players.
>Steve Williams

Right, but UK was invited as a *team* to play.  Ol' Dean simply stuffed
his players onto the roster (and I can't recall the composition of his
team for the Olympics, but did Smith truly have 8 or 9 out of 12 guys 
from UNC, as UK did???).  The fact that Deano doesn't brag about such
things makes me think he didn't have that many.

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Billy and Nantz
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:03:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr9.100318.538
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison
Originator: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

In article <702752655@bronto.cs.duke.edu> db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes:
>I'm geting real tired with all you guys bithcing and whining about
>everything that moves. No sportscaster and no network is good enough 
>for you. Picking on defenseless sports announcers is a safe way
>to post something without getting flamed. Well, not anymore.
>It's not easy to talk two straight hours with commentary and
>fill the voids when a guy goes to the foul line. So they use
>a few cliches and state the obvious sometimes. Big deal.
>Overall, these announcers are very knowledgable in many sports
>and help pump excitment into the NCAA basketball.
>
>Give it a rest.

You make a good point, although for the money that the Packer's make in a
year, we expect a little more.  I really don't mind the stupid cliches and
bad puns, I just don't like it when they give incorrect information.  These
guys can have their stats checked before they make a point.  I also don't
think announcers on a national level should have favorite teams, although
with all the ex-coaches and ex-players announcing now, it gets pretty hard
to avoid that.  Still, at least Quinn Buckner was not obviously biased when
IU was playing.  Compare to Packer, Fransesca, and the rest of the
obviously pro-Duke CBS team on Monday night.

You make a VERY good point about the sportscasters being defenseless,
however.  I suggest getting Dick Vitale, Al McGuire, Billy Packer, and
various other sports figures (maybe even Sagarin, Fransesca, etc...)
accounts on the INTERNET.  Have them subscribe to the basketball groups and
let them do their commentary.  It would give them a new media to spread
their "knowledge", and it would give them a chance to get feedback in a
more direct matter.  I would bet that at least Vitale, if given access to
this newsgroup, would be willing to post once in a while, and
defend/retract his statements.  It won't happen, but if it did, it would be
a lot of fun.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Net Basketball Talent (was Re: Duke Tourney Observations)
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:47:29 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) wrote:
}
}This brings up an interesting question:  how good are most of you net.gods
}at playing basketball?  What types of players are you?

He's obviously too modest to say so himself, but Scott Turner is
virtually unbeatable because he can fly.  His main problem is that
he's a bit slow (by avian standards) and overexuberant and 
consequently gets called a lot for goaltending on 3-pointers.

However, Trent Lange is almost certainly the only r.s.bb.c regular 
to have played ball in front of thousands at a major arena this
past season, so he must be the best.

}Once in a while at get into a hot streak shooting the ball, but doesn't
}everyone?

I don't.

-- 
"Laugh while you can, monkey boy!"    | Mark Mitchell, Ga. Tech, Atlanta, GA
                                      | mm42@prism.gatech.edu
From: jih@teer24.acpub.duke.edu (JOY HOGLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Final Four Locations in '93 & '94
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:08:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.162046.29667@u.washington.edu>, crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
|> I believe the 1993 Final Four is in the Superdome in New Orleans.  The 1994
|> Final Four is in Seattle at the Kingdome. (I think--if it isn't here in '94
|> it is in '95).
|> 
|> In 1994 it will be in Charlotte, NC. Then in 1995 it's going to the Kingdome.
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: !!PAC-10!! News You Can Use
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:09:11
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: kenk@mips.com's message of 10 Apr 92 00:28:38 GMT

>>>>> "Ken" == Ken Kubey <kenk@mips.com> writes:
[stuff deletd]
>In any event, Dreher has left the university due to "personal reasons

  Ken> Right.  The guy couldn't shoot this year.  He couldn't hit 3's.
  Ken> He couldn't hit 2's.  That's why he rode the bench.  
  Ken> He had plenty of chances early in the season.

So the old Campanelli solution is to just give up on the guy. First of all
the guy had proven that he could shoot. Second, your season is going down
the toilet and you just abandon someone who pumped in 13 a game?! Seems to
me Campanelli gave the youngsters a shot and they didn't come through, so
why didn't he take another look at Dreher. He might possibly have had some
senior leadership at the shooting position next year. Now all the Bears
have is an overabundance of young point guards. There's absolutely no
excuse for not at least playing the guy in blowouts. That's when a guy can
work through a slump. But noooooooo, have to get the old nepotism quota in.

[more stuff deleted]
--
            xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU	

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Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.		
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Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: rhh2h@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Ron Henderson)
Subject: Re: IU/DUKE Officals
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:59:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.214901.23576@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> "Louis \"Ichabod\" Stone" <lhstone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>You broght up some excellent points Jon.  But has anyone ever consiedered the
>concept of point shaving?  Just like people pay off players to make it 'look 
>-- 
>       IIIII       THE INDIANA UNIVERSITY FIGHTING HOOSIERS        IIIII
a   UU   III   UU   Name: Louis Stone        Major:  BUS/CIS    UU   III   UU

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm really getting tired of every losing team blaming the officials for the
outcome.  Have some dignity.  One team wins. One team loses.

But as for the game:

1) Indiana was in the two shot bonus in the first half with 3 fouls to
   give before Duke got the 1+1 bonus.  The same just happened to 
   happen in reverse in the second half.
2) Grant Hill, who never fouls out, fouled out.
3) The foul calls were consistent.  You shoot and someone falls, it
   is a charge.  The big men were only called for over-the-back type
   fouls.  That is why Laettner didn't have 5, he fouls mostly down
   low for position.  Yes, he gets away with a lot.

It will be interesting to see how the Webber to Laettner foul ratio
goes tonight, but I'm sure the anti-Dukes will be shouting
"point shaving !!", "officials suck !!", etc... if they in fact win.
--
Ron Henderson                Internet:  rhh2h@Virginia.EDU
EE PhD student               BITNET  :  rhh2h@VIRGINIA
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University of Virginia
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: tomscud@owlnet.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Subject: Re: D00K R00LZ!!!!!!
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:42:49 GMT

<lots of Dook Woofing deleted>

>first team to REPEAT in a long time!  But I didn't here who the last team to
>repeat was!  They must have been AWESOME too!!!
>
>So could anybody tell me who that team was???
>
>And will Dook beat that team's REPEAT record next year??!?!!
>
>- TRENT LANGE!!!

Yeah, lets see, to match "that team"'s record, all DOOK has to do
is win 7 of their next 9 championships.

Have fun, kids.

Tom Scudder
tomscud@owlnet.rice.edu
From: sfp1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Sven F. F. Pride)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Prediction.
Keywords: Duke-Michigan
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:46:11 GMT
Reply-To: sfp1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


	The Michigan Wolverines will upset the Duke Blue Devils.

				This comes from an ACC fan.

						-0---Sven Pride
sfp1@midway.uchicago.edu
From: thartman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy J Hartman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Recruits
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:08:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Apr14.210855.5498
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Ohio State University

Charles "Killer" Macon (Michigan City Elston)
Indiana's Mr. Basketball

Greg Simpson (Lima Senior)
Ohio's 2X Mr. Basketball

JJ is 60/40 about returning.  He will discuss with his parents about a decision
to play in the NBA and will not say until sometime in May whether he is going.
Underclassmen have until May 14 to decide.

Ohio State's two prize recruits finished second on the CNN/USA Today All-Prep 
team.

Greg Simpson and Jalen Rose.  There will be some talking in the next few years 
when the Bucks and Wolves tangle.

Ohio State '91,'92 Big Ten Champs (Threepeat)!
Tim Hartman
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: bradley@storm.rtp.dg.com (Scott Bradley)
Subject: Re: Billy and Nantz
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:04:15 GMT
Reply-To: bradley@dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1992Apr9.100318.538@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
> In article <702752655@bronto.cs.duke.edu> db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes:
>>I'm geting real tired with all you guys bithcing and whining about
>>everything that moves. No sportscaster and no network is good enough 
>>for you. Picking on defenseless sports announcers is a safe way
>>to post something without getting flamed. Well, not anymore.
>>It's not easy to talk two straight hours with commentary and
>>fill the voids when a guy goes to the foul line. So they use
>>a few cliches and state the obvious sometimes. Big deal.
>>Overall, these announcers are very knowledgable in many sports
>>and help pump excitment into the NCAA basketball.
>>
>>Give it a rest.
> 
> You make a good point, although for the money that the Packer's make in a
> year, we expect a little more.  I really don't mind the stupid cliches and
> bad puns, I just don't like it when they give incorrect information.  These
> guys can have their stats checked before they make a point.  I also don't
> think announcers on a national level should have favorite teams, although
> with all the ex-coaches and ex-players announcing now, it gets pretty hard
> to avoid that.  Still, at least Quinn Buckner was not obviously biased when
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
      I guess that depends which side of the fence you are on. 

> IU was playing.  Compare to Packer, Fransesca, and the rest of the
                                      ^^^^^^^^^
      Is this the same Mike Francesa who last year picked Duke to lose to
      Iowa, Connecticut, St Johns (predictable), UNLV (predictable), and
      Kansas.  If i have ever seen anyone that was anti-Duke it was 
      Fancesca last year.  Maybe a year makes a lot of difference.
 
> obviously pro-Duke CBS team on Monday night.
> 
> You make a VERY good point about the sportscasters being defenseless,
> however.  I suggest getting Dick Vitale, Al McGuire, Billy Packer, and
> various other sports figures (maybe even Sagarin, Fransesca, etc...)
> accounts on the INTERNET.  Have them subscribe to the basketball groups and
> let them do their commentary.  It would give them a new media to spread
> their "knowledge", and it would give them a chance to get feedback in a
> more direct matter.  I would bet that at least Vitale, if given access to
> this newsgroup, would be willing to post once in a while, and
> defend/retract his statements.  It won't happen, but if it did, it would be
> a lot of fun.
> -- 
> 
> Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: schapple@nutmeg.. (Shawn Chapple)
Subject: Re: The Big Ten
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 01:58:20 GMT

In article <weber.1@edit.mndly.umn.edu> weber@edit.mndly.umn.edu (GARRETT  
WEBER) writes:
> It's gonna be an all Big Ten championship game, and the Fab Five are  
gonna 
> pull it off. Any debate on this?
> Garrett Weber	

I don't doubt it, but if Indiana would have beat Duke like what should  
have happened if it weren't for those biased referees we would have taken  
it all.

Shawn 

Indiana University
From the Hoosier Land
From: jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Illini - final four talent
Summary: not highly recurited NOT!
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:24:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

From: page@uicadd.csl.uiuc.edu (Ward Page)

>In article <1992Apr15.162916.14832@cbnewse.cb.att.com> jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher) writes:
>>
>>Because that team was incredibly talented, more so than Michigan and
>>should have won it all. The only recent team that compares in talent
>>was the UNLV team with Augmon and Johnson and maybe Duke this year.
>
>Well, they were talented but not as talented as Michigan.  Michigan had the
>talent (but not the coaching) to go undefeated that year.  Illinois was also
>not as deep as Michigan.
>
>
>>4 of those starters played in the NBA - 3 are still playing in the NBA 
>>and I believe were 1st or high 2nd round picks (Nick Anderson, Kendall
>>Gill, and Kenny Battle). Bardo is playing in the CBA currently.
>>Anderson and Gill are averaging nearly 20 pts. a game in the NBA.
>
>Yeah, it was a great team.  But, what noone remembers is that at the
>beginning of the season when Jens Kujaba (sp?) went back to Germany everyone
>said that Illinois wouldn't make it to the NCAA's at all because there was
>noone to take over the big man spot.  Lou completely changed the style of
bball these guys played and it worked.  Remember also, some of these guys
>weren't highly recruited. Kendall Gill wasn't recruited by ANY other school
>(I think SIU offered him a walk-on spot - not sure).
>
>
>Ward Page


Not so. Battle, Gill, Anderson, Hamilton, Liberty, Small, and Smith were
all very highly recruited. Battle went to NIU then left when they
fired the coach (who had coached at Battle's high school W. Aurora
for years.) He was the best player in the MAC for the 2 years he was
at NIU. Anderson and Liberty had schools all over the country
drooling over them. Gill was very highly regarded too. Larry Smith was
highly recruited out of Alton but was somewhat of a disappointment
at Illinois.
From: wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Laettner, NO CLASS
Date: 10 Apr 1992 02:17:49 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <15715@durer.cme.nist.gov> hira@cme.nist.gov (Ron Hira) writes:
|Here, I am paraphrasing and adding my own views.
|Duke is represented as the "All-American"- white- team. (Yeah I know, 
|half their team is black) So, these recent revelations on how physical(dirty) 
|Duke plays is a surprise to many. Wilbon suggests that if Laettner played
|for the Hoyas, he would be called a thug, a la Michael Graham or Patrick
|Ewing.
|
|Ron

Or Alonzo Mourning?  Or Brian Kelly?
The Hoyas earn their rep every year.

Rick
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Re: The Championship Triangle in N.C.
    <OLIVER.92Apr8123104@ballard1.mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:33:17 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III) writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.90036.8828@ms.uky.edu> morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan) wrot> While we're dwelling in the realm of trivia, here's one for you.  Kentucky
>> is the only team to win the NCAA, NIT, and Olympic titles in the same year.

>How are you defining "same year"?  CCNY is the only school to win both the
>NCAA and NIT in the same year.

>And I'm real curious as to which year Kentucky won the Olympics.

Well, I had to break out my little UK almanac. But I'm afraid Wes
is off a little bit.

on March 20, 1946, UK beat Rhode Island 46-45 for the NIT crown.
During the 1947-48 season, UK beat Baylor 58-42 for the NCAA Tournament
title, making them, at that time, only the second team to win both the
NCAA Tournament and the NIT.

Also, the 1947-48 UK team, the Fabulous Five, beat France 64-21 on
August 13, 1948 for the Olympic Gold.
Back then, teams competed to become the U.S. Olympic Team, instead
of individuals trying to win a spot on the team.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: clancy@cs.utexas.edu (Daniel J. Clancy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke-IU--the problem with basketball
Date: 8 Apr 1992 14:53:53 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: trurl.cs.utexas.edu

From the perspective of a Duke fan who also was at the game
and thus did not have the advantage of TV replays:

I agree that the officiating was very poor.  Actually, I felt that the
first ten minutes of the game things were biased toward Indiana.  I
think that Duke had 7 or 8 fouls to Inidiana's 2 or 3 after about 8
minutes.  In particular, a number of offensive fouls were called
against Duke in this stretch.  The rest of the first half was about
equal.  The beginnning of the second half then went big time against
Inidiana (more than they did against Duke in the first ten
minutes).  In particular, the call on Daimon Bailey when
Cherokee slammed was particulalry bad.  Another call that
I can remember was called against someone guarding Hurley
when he was dribbling.

Now to some other points which have been made:

     -	Chaney's four offensive fouls

	The refs were consistently calling offensive fouls against
	both clubs.  Duke adjusted top this.  I think that
	at time IU got frustrated and this led to other
	offensive fouls.  I think that they called too many
	offensive fouls both ways.

     -	IU only lost by three and thus would have won if
	it wasn't for the officiating.

	If IU wasn't down by 10, Leary would not have gotten the green
	light to fire up the threes the
	way that he did.  In fact, if it wasn't for the foul trouble
	he wouldn't have even been in there.  That was an exceptional
	performance by Leary that would not have been duplicated
	by one of the starters.  Thus, at the end Inidiana
	got 9 points which they may not have had if it wasn't for 
	the foul trouble.  So it is not clear that IU would have won.

	Probably more important is that fact that the fouls often
	hurt Duke because they were shooting so pooly at the free throw
	line.  There were a number of times when Duke missed both
	free throws and/or the front end of a one and one.  
	While this was Duke's fault, Duke probably would have scored just
	as many points without the foul calls. Thus the poor
	calls hurt Inidiana because they lost there best
	players, but not because it gave Duke points.


    -	>But everyone knows that  
	>Indiana still had the better team that night.

	Not everyone.  If I remember correctly, Inidiana scored
	something like 5 points in the first 10 to 12 minutes
	of the second half.  This occurred because Duke was playing 
	great defense not because of the fouls.  Indiana played a 
	great first half and was only up by 5 against a  Duke
	team that played one of its worst halfs of the year.
	If Duke would have hit their free throws and kept there
	head in the game (i.e. turnovers at the end of the game)
	this could have been a 10-20 point game.


Dan Clancy  	Duke '85
		clancy@cs.utexas.edu
From: currin@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Annoying  NCState fans
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:44:25 GMT
Reply-To: currin@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <12554@umd5.umd.edu>, firey@lab5.smcm.edu (Thomas A. Firey) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.183316.14487@ncsu.edu> charles@sparc.ncsu.edu ("Lo")  
>writes:
>> Where the hell was Duke in the 1983 NCAAs?  That's right... they WEREN'T
>> there!!!
>> 
>> Where the hell was Duke in the 1990 NCAAs?  That's right...
>> THEY GOT THEIR ASS KICKED BY UNLV 103-73!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> 
>> I better not catch your nasty ass on campus or I will wipe it off the  
>map!
>> 
>> GO  
>WOLFPACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>"Lo"
>
>Re: the "intelligence" of the above statement.
>
>Are all Wolfpack fans this dense/annoying?
>
>Is there any way to ban them from the net?
>
>Just wondering,
>
>Thomas


One more time we do not know who this guy is all we know is that it's a
joke. If you havn't been following this, notice that Washburn, Spud,
Lorenzo, Bennie Bolton, Avie Lester, Russell Pierre, Brian D'Amico,
JT Valvano, probably someone I forgot, and probably some in the future,
 have all posted to this net. Do any of those names sound familar? It was real
annoying during the season, but now who cares. Things are slow, now I'd
rather read them versus a discussion on how dirty Laettner is. Perhaps
Andrew Dice Clay has access to the net.
RC
From: db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: O'Neal
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:36:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


 (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
> (Mark J Daly) writes:
>|
>|PS - watch out for BC next year, they recruited the inside help they 
>|     needed for Curley and should be strong...

>We really need a separate group, rec.sport.basketball.college.hallucinating
>We could redirect all posts from UMASS, NC St. and the PAC-10 to it.  We'll
>have to keep an eye on BC...
>
>Rick

I watched BC play Duke here in Durham in the first championship
season (1991). BC was a freshman dominated team back then. I was 
impressed even though they got blown away. Jokes aside, BC will be
good next year.



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