From: tref@bcrka450.bnr.ca (Francois Tremblay)
Subject: Re: 'comp.sys.mac.mactcp' newsgroup?
Reply-To: tref@bcrka450.bnr.ca (Francois Tremblay)
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:27:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.052858.15018@netcom.com>, creiman@netcom.com
(Charlie Reiman) writes:
> trier@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier) writes:
> 
> >In article <1glr8lINNdka@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward
Vielmetti) writes:
> >>the other name for the group if you were picking two would be
> >>'comp.protocol.tcp-ip.mactcp' to go along with the existing 'tcp-ip.ibmpc'
> >>group.
> 
> >I think this is an excellent idea.  However, I think the name could be
> >improved.  Why not "comp.protocols.tcp-ip.mac"?  This way, questions
> >about TCP stacks other than MacTCP would still be covered.  (As an
> >example, consider the recent thread about why the NCSA Telnet built-in
> >stack advertises a different window than does NCSA Telnet over MacTCP.)
> 
> 
> I'm not too happy with the level of newsgroup fragmentation we already
> have on usenet. IMHO, people who want to spawn off new subgroups just
> aren't using good newsreaders. 
> 
> A quick nngrep for 'mac' give me the following list, editted to remove
> the irrelevant stuff:
> 

Yes, this is getting out of hand, I vote to reduce the number of groups  
and get people to use efficient news reader.

 
> aus.mac
> bit.mailserv.word-mac
> chile.comp.mac
> comp.binaries.mac
> comp.lang.forth.mac
> comp.sources.mac
> comp.sys.mac.advocacy
> comp.sys.mac.announce
> comp.sys.mac.apps
> comp.sys.mac.comm
> comp.sys.mac.databases
> comp.sys.mac.digest
> comp.sys.mac.games
> comp.sys.mac.hardware
> comp.sys.mac.hypercard
> comp.sys.mac.misc
> comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3
> comp.sys.mac.oop.misc
> comp.sys.mac.programmer
> comp.sys.mac.system
> comp.sys.mac.wanted
> ctdl.sys.mac
> cu.cs.macl.info
> fj.sys.mac
> misc.forsale.computers.mac
> resif.info.mac
> su.computers.mac
> su.macintosh
> uw.mac-users
> 
> 'misc.forsale.computers.mac?' Are we out of control yet?
> 
> Just ask yourself some simple questions while reading news: If I don't
> care about HERMES discussions, then why am I reading them? No one
> forces you to read any threads you thinks are stupid. Ignore them.  If
> you are worried about missing important information, don't be. It'll
> come around again. Important information on USENET cycles around
> constantly, usually do to newbie questions.
> 
> On the other hand, the whole situation is a total mess, and I have no
> problems adding yet another low-bandwidth/ultra-narrow newsgroup to my
> newsreader. I will vote 'no' if the issue gets that far but ultimately
> it is of little consequence to me and my favorite newsreader.
> 
> My final argument against new groups: cross-posting. Consider where you
> posted this original. This very thread appears in three newsgroups.
> Why? Because they already overlap.  Well, if you form c.s.m.mactcp (or
> whatever) you've got another target to shoot for.
> 
> Now where did I leave my asbestos underwear?
> 
> -- 
> Charlie Reiman
> creiman@netcom.com

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tref@bnr.ca                       Ottawa, Canada
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