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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: Married With Children...  New life?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 02:21:12 GMT

areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
 >Usaually when a show brings in a new little brat, the show is 
 >on it's last leg.  

At least it can easily be the kiss of death, a definite recipe for 
"spoiling" a good show...   Which is *exactly* what we have here.

 >But the addition of Seven (7) to the Married cast was 
 >( for me) a stroke of genius.

WHAT?!?!?!?!   How?  I have found it absolutely and totally HORRIBLE!

For one thing the kid can't even act at ALL, and everything
they have done with him has been 100% totally UNFUNNY.  

 >I love "MWC"

Same here!  So much so that I have all the episodes on tape,
and I wrote a 60 page program guide...

 >The Bundy's constant put downs and take downs of each other were all that
 >was left.   The addition of seven, and _some_ personality for Kelly, 

I would certainly agree with the "addition" of ANYTHING in regards
to Kelly (other than more *clothes* of course! :), since she is one
of the best and funniest characters...

 >seems to have brightened this show up!  

HOW could anything related to that kid be "bright"?  Everything about him 
is a "dark" and unwelcome detraction from *real* MWC content that would
normally be FUNNY.

 >Yesterday's episode is a perfect example.  

Yea, it was absolutely the worst episode so far this season.

 >The whole show was full of the usual Bundy put downs, 

Hmmm...  Could you be referring to the usual JOKES??
That is what the show is all about!  Witty jabs and the like.

 >but in the end because of Seven they all pulled together 
 >and showed some affection!

Ugh!!   Are you sure you "get" this show?  :->
Almost all of that was totally repulsive and completely WRONG.

 >The Kelly date episode ia a good example too.

Except for the TOTALLY unfunny "obligatory" Seven scene at the beginning,
it was a fairly decent episode.  Anything Kelly-centered has to be though!

 >Al _Wanting_ to sleep with Peggy???  

It's been done before.  No big deal.  
It was FUNNY, which is all that matters to me.

 >Bud defending Kelly's honor? Bizarre!  

That was done very BADLY, mainly because it wasn't funny.  Bud and Kelly 
have stuck up for each other before, and on those occasions it worked
and was good for a laugh.  This time was just cheap and pathetic.

 >I think that MWC's writers are trying hard to keep this show 
 >alive for a few more years.

I think they are *KILLING* the show!   It would appear that someone on
the show is starting to forget the all-important second title of this
series: "NOT the cosby's" !!  This awful, putrid "cute kid" nonsense
is totally and completely WRONG for the show.  So far NONE of it has
made the least bit of sense, starting with the end of this season's
first episode...

 >P.S.  How many people think the Bundy's will make 10 years?

Since for the moment MWC is still about Fox's highest rated show,
*IF* they can repair this horrible mess we are currently stuck with,
then there might just be a chance...

-{ Dean Adams }-

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From: mgtaylor@eos.ncsu.edu (Mary Molly G Taylor)
Subject: Re: SNL: October 3, Really Bad.
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:39:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.044927.10855@afterlife.ncsc.mil> acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:
>Is it just me, or was the October 3 Saturday Night Live 
>really, really boring?
>

Could you give me your secret for staying awake?  I fell asleep!


-- 
MaryMolly G. Taylor
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(919) 515-5240		|	Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering Dept.
Fax:  (919) 515-7968	|	North Carolina State University
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From: kguinn@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Kip J. Guinn)
Subject: Re: Jan Hooks (was Re: SNL:  Where was Mike Myers?)
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:03:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.183835.2794@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> smmcafee@mtu.edu (Sean McAfee) writes:
>In article <BvFAEz.M0t@ddsw1.mcs.com> dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT) writes:
>>His name is Adam Sandler, and though some other rec.arts.tv readers like the
>>characters, I wish he'd stick Opera Man and Cajun Man into a trunk.
>
>A friend of mine told me that he saw Adam Sandler on the Dennis Miller
>show.  According to said friend, Sandler talked about a new character he was
>working on called "Whoopee Man" whose gimmick was that he responded to all
>questions with a quiet "whoopee!"  As you might imagine, my friend said that
>WM was resoundingly unfunny.


The thing that strikes me about Sandler's characters is:  yes, on the
surface, they are incredibly stupid.  I mean, come on--Opera Man?
Cajun Man?  whose big thing is every answer is a word ending in a
"shun" sound (depression, consession, etc...)

But then you see him do the characters, and (I may be alone here, but)
they really come off!  I find myself laughing most of the way through
them.

He's not a comic genius, but you have to admit--he's got guts to go
on national TV with that... :-)

Kip
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Word from our Sponsor
Keywords: 40 years of commercials
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:00:51 GMT


Did anyone else watch the program last night on NBC called "Word
from Our Sponsor" with Crystal Bernard and mmmmm Hartman?  (He's
from SNL, I can't remember his first name!)  That was such a funny
show!  My favorite, besides the exercising cows, was the one from
Spain with the nuns and the rubber cement.

I wish I had taped it!

margaret@cs.arizona.edu





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From: kapa@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (k.a.perkins)
Subject: Re: CIVIL WARS: Best hour of drama on TV
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:12:54 GMT
Summary: disagree, seemed preachy to me

In article <19vn4gINN7n8@agate.berkeley.edu>, peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter Merholz) writes:
> After watching the season premiere of CIVIL WARS, I feel safe in saying
> it's the best hour of drama on television (At least that I watch, which
> includes STAR TREK:TNG, LAW AND ORDER, etc., which all had disappointing
> openings)...
Well, I confess I only watched it a couple of times last season
but did tune in to see Mariel Hemingway take off her clothes.
I thought that episode was fairly preachy, particular the story
about the couple who was getting divorced because he didn't want
kids and she had accidentally gotten pregnant.  He was portrayed
as not wanting kids because of his reaction to his own awful childhood
(my dad was awful so I will be an awful dad) not because of some
more rational or adult thought (I don't like kids, never did, don't want
them around, I want to devote 16 hours a day to my career of finding a
cure for cancer).  So basically, he was a bad guy and his wife was
a good person who loved him but didn't want to get rid of the kid.
Also, he sort of tried to blame her for this, by suggesting that
her getting pregnant wasn't really an accident, and no one said
to him something that I thought was a fairly obvious question,
"well, if you felt so strongly about not having kids, why didn't
you have a vasectomy?"  I don't know how old he was.  My guess was
that he was in his late 30's, and while you sometimes hear that
doctors don't like to "fix" (break) people in their 20's because
they might later change their mind, I think he was past that age.
Throughout the arguments about living up to agreements and really
meaning the things you said, no one even mentioned the fact that 
he could have prevented this problem from ever happening to him,
and maybe he was the one who wasn't serious about never having a
child.

Oh, well, I really liked the young lawyer whose name escapes me -
not Mariel and not the other main lead, but the younger lawyer.
He was fun to watch.

Kate Perkins
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From: jhitch@crash.cts.com (Jeffrey Hitchin)
Subject: QL: What happened to the regular people?
Date: 29 Sep 92 07:47:39 GMT

Just in case somebody actually doesn't know about upcoming episodes
and doesn't want to know:

	I just don't know about where QL is going.  All these new
episodes devoted to historical figures.  Sam as Lee Harvey Oswald.
Sam leaping into Marilyn Monroe's last hours.  The evil leaper
from hell.

	What happened to the reason for watching QL in the first place?
Regular people?  I watched the USA rerun tonight, "Good Morning Peoria,"
and even though I recognized the actress in it as being from "Home
Improvement," and continued to think of her as such during the episode,
what truly got to me were that these people were nothing special.  They
weren't intriguing historical figures.  They weren't rich and powerful.
They were down-to-earth people who had feelings and problems.

	Are there going to be any more episodes like the early ones with
just a good old-fashioned story and no "let's see how clever we are with
leap technology?  If there aren't, and they're going to try and pull
more tricks with us, I'm not going to watch it anymore.


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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: Get A Life:Chris
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 07:30:14 GMT

Ok, so there were 35 episodes, eh? Well at the end of how many of them
did Chris die?

1. walletboy dies outside of city gate
2. sharon strangles psychic chris (he nearly died choking on cereal too)
3. he dies of flammable bed after falling from an airplane
4. stabbed by woman stalking him in show where he fell in love
5. died from tonsilectomy
6. i guess he died when sharon and gus ripped his head off and kicked it
   down the street.

i cant remember any more. still, so far that's 6/35 or 17%! wow

are there any more?

jam
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Subject: Re: Married With Children...  New life?
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:09:18 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Sep30.022112.3470@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
> Since for the moment MWC is still about Fox's highest rated show,
> *IF* they can repair this horrible mess we are currently stuck with,
> then there might just be a chance...
> 
> -{ Dean Adams }-

     It's not higher than the Simpsons is it?

Later.......

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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Gilligan's Island Pilot
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:13:06 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

mb2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marvin H. Blachman) writes:

}I guess I was expecting to see something about this sooner, what with
}all the talk about Woops! and it's (possible) comparison to Gilligan's
}Island - not to mention some recent discussion about how EVERYONE knows
}the words to GI's opening theme song (I wonder how many know the words
}to the closing theme!). 

Now this is the tale of our castaways,
They're here for a long long time.
They'll have to make the best of it,
It's an uphill climb.

(Just don't ask me to do Super Chicken, ok?)

--James Preston
From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: SNL - Oct 3, Latest on Sinead reaction
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:30:33 GMT
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School

In article <1992Oct6.133648.12370@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Mikemoe) writes:
> Well, I read in the paper today that NBC has been inudated with calls
> protesting Sinead o`Connors' 'song'....a song originally performed
> by Bob Marley (song was outlawed [or something] in Jamaica)
> 
> Furthermore, the article says that Lorne Michaels and others were shocked
> at what Sinead did. Even said Michaels was offended. A Bishop in Brooklyn
> has responded to antics by Sinead and said people should pity her more than
> condemn her.

Last night's ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT had an interesting piece on this.  Let's
see what I remember...they showed part of an interview they had with SO last
week where she was talking about child abuse, and in listing the various
forms of child abuse she mentioned 'lying about god' and something about the
church being a planned series of lies that has been 'done to us' for hundreds
of years.  Just between you and me, it didn't make a whole lot of sense.  Then
they talked to an NBC spokesman who said that in rehearsal SO ripped a picture
of a child, and that everybody in the control booth was shocked when she hauled
out the shot of ol' JPII (I'm paraphrasing here) and that a lot of them were
offended...as of Monday afternoon NBC had received 750+ phone calls of protest.
A spokesman for the New York diocese said that there would be no boycott and
that he couldn't understand why anybody would say such nasty things about the
holy father.  Finally they said that SO left for the UK right after the show
and has had no comment.

I like to think I'm fairly liberal and I've admired some of the things she's
done before, but even I have to think the girl has gone WAY off the deep end.
The interview I saw made almost no sense.  She didn't even mention the
catholic/protestant thing in Ireland, which I might have understood better.
As far as I can tell she's upset with the Church for lying to kids about
god.
Maybe she's just trying to out-controversy Madonna...
Joe Walker
walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
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From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: Designing Women: new season comments
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:04:27 GMT
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

In <23357@optima.cs.arizona.edu> margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:

>In article <1992Oct3.221829.10065@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 00sdriddle@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>> 
>(stuff deleted)

>> 	I ahven't heard a consensus on Ivey or this season.  does
>> everyone else think this character is good so far or anyone absolutely
>> hate her?
>> 
>> -----------
>> Steve Riddle
>> 00sdriddle@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu


>I love Judith Ivey!  She was so good in "Down Home" that was cancelled.
>She really balances the show out, really subdueing Carlene and getting
>Julia back the way she was.  I am really hopeful about the show now, it
>might make it after all (AD: After Delta).  I certainly don't miss Allison,
>tho I have always enjoyed Julia Duffy's work.


>margaret@cs.arizona.edu


According to an "interviewette" (mini-view?  I dunno what to call it) in our
local paper's television supplement last week, Linda B-T said that the new 
character would be a combination of two of her friends from Texas, Governor
Ann Richards and Molly Ivins (formerly of the Dallas Times-Herald).  If 
you've never had a chance to read any of Molly Ivins's work, DO IT NOW!.  
She has a "Steel Magnolia" sensibility (a Southern viewpoint, but don't 
get in her way, either!) that's second to none.way, either!) that's second 
to none.

I must say I _LIKE_ the new character, and agree that DW:AD may be a success.


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From: 00sdriddle@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Designing Women: new season comments
Date: 4 Oct 92 03:18:29 GMT


	I think Designing Women made a good move by adding Judith
Ivey to the cast and dropping Julia Duffy!
	Ivey is great!  I love her voice.  She is one of those types
who can say just about anything and it would strike me as funny just
by the way she said it.
	I still don't think they are as good as the Delta Burke episodes,
but the season is young and so far it is a great improvement over
last season.
	I ahven't heard a consensus on Ivey or this season.  does
everyone else think this character is good so far or anyone absolutely
hate her?

-----------
Steve Riddle
00sdriddle@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: SNL: October 3, Really Bad.
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:46:50 GMT
Organization: HMS

In article <1992Oct5.142443.18920@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> craigb@ot.austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>
>I'm not sure that even the SNL cast cares much for Sinead...I noticed at
>the end of the show, when everyone mills around on stage and gladhands
>and such, that no-one seemed to want to get anywhere near her.
>
>Craig
>-- 

She ran out of her supply of Irish Spring and nobody dared to touch her.
You know what happens when you touch shit that smells...:-)

-Mark
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From: aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan)
Subject: Re: QL: Leaping of the Shrew
Organization: Ord High School, Ord, NE
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:37:41 GMT

eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:
>jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle Ks. Jim)) says:

>>Next week does look interesting.

>Very interesting.  I don't think Al's gotten to Sam's side that
>fast in any other episode.

Went into the Waiting Room, the leapee yells, "I HAVE LEGS AGAIN!" and
Al figures this is something that Sam must be told immediately!  Can't
have Sam getting up and standing, and everyone in the past seeing the
leapee hovering two feet above the ground.

>             Beth Hlabse    eah4@po.CWRU.Edu     Assistant Sysop

-- 
aberigan@nde.unl.edu (Greg Berigan)
From: noah@ira.uka.de (Noah B. Coccaro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Mariel Hemmingway to appear nude on network TV
Date: 30 Sep 1992 16:28:10 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: i13d4.ira.uka.de


Just heard on the news (AP) that Mariel Hemmingway will be appearing in 
a nude scene (i believe as a nude model) in the network TV series Civil Wars.
Commercial sponsors have previewed the episode and are have no complaints. 
Could this signal a lightening up of American fear of the naked body??

Is this a first for American network TV?? Know any other times it
has been done? Does anyone know what kind of regulations there are 
(other than sponsor boycott)? 
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From: kimi@newsance.att.com (Kimiye Tipton;ball of confusion)
Subject: Re: NEXP: why mena and women can't communicate
Organization: AT&T IMS, Maitland, FL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:51:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.020900.880@henson.cc.wwu.edu> lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert) writes:
>Notice anything about the posts about the NEXP premiere?  Males
>are saying either a) they're really dumping on Maggie or b) Maggie
>found out how badly she treated these guys.  Females are saying
>Maggie found out the guys were jerks.  I pointed this amazing
>disticntion to my wife and she said "She DID find out they were
>jerks."  This is the person I have been happily married to fifteen
>years and we see the same scene completely differently.  No
>wonder people can't get along...
>
>(at least I THINK we`re happily married....)

Great observation!  My husband goes to bed earlier than I do, and I've
tried to get him to watch tapes of NX with me lately (he was watching it
before I was, in the first season).  Now he says he can't watch,
because it makes him too uncomfortable.  It's too close to reality,
he says.  I'm whooping with laughter, and he's getting a beer to
go watch MTV in the other room.  

Well, at least after the show, I'm in a better mood.  Now if he would
only wake up....


Kimiye Tipton  kimi@kokomo.att.com or kimi@newsance.att.com  Maitland, FL
"Now, I'm going to unzip your pants and pull them 
    down around your hips--try not to get turned on."
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Reasonable Doubts two-hour premiere
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:48:05 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

>
>2) Worse long-term planning.  They have now plotted themselves into a
>very small corner.  Before, Dickie's life was Work, Tess, and Kay.  He

>work-related.  Dickie Cobb needs to Get A Life again.
>

Didn't you notice the new female cops?  I figure that's his new love
interest, for awhile anyway.
.
.
.
.
.
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: SNL - Oct 3, Latest on Sinead reaction
Summary: Sting stupid??
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:52:14 GMT

> 
> Maybe she's just a stupid person trying to look intelligent (cf. Sting).
> --
> Dave!

Sting stupid?  Sting on the same level as Sinead O'Connor??  I don't
think so.  He may not be as bankable as Michael Jackson, but he sure
isn't stupid.  Thank you very much!


margaret





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From: millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Mikemoe)
Subject: SNL - Oct 3, Latest on Sinead reaction
Reply-To: millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:36:48 GMT

Well, I read in the paper today that NBC has been inudated with calls
protesting Sinead o`Connors' 'song'....a song originally performed
by Bob Marley (song was outlawed [or something] in Jamaica)

Furthermore, the article says that Lorne Michaels and others were shocked
at what Sinead did. Even said Michaels was offended. A Bishop in Brooklyn
has responded to antics by Sinead and said people should pity her more than
condemn her.

That's what happens when you do something 'live' I guess. [I'd like to 
see the Andy Kaufman episode sometime again also. I believe he lost it
and started shoving...anyway, I digress]

--Mike 

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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: Sanford/Grady
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:58:38 CDT

Okay,

How come Fred was absent from what seemed like a whole season of Sanford and
Son?  There were at least 10 episodes where Grady was house sitting for him.

Where was Fred?

Jeff