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From: ajfcal!%cpsc.ucalgary.ca%alberta.UUCP%kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca%unixg.ubc.ca%cs.ubc.ca%destroyer.UUCP%caen.UUCP%zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu%magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu%usenet.ins.cwru.edu@agate.  (Herb Peyerl)
Subject: Re: Need Some Advice..
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:54:51 GMT
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Richard M. Venable (rvenable@helix.nih.gov) wrote:
: On the 710, you can mount the network root (//) as /apollo and then
: have
: access to all the Domain/OS nodes ( /apollo/nodeA, /apollo/nodeB,
: etc.).
: The 710 can be mounted on one NFS server node at the network root, e.g.
: as //hp710, and is then accessible to all the Domain/OS nodes.

In the Domain/OS NFS 4.1 release notes it recommends against mounting
the network root (//) for performance reasons.  It stands to reason
also.. Lets look at the following scenario:

You have two Apollo nodes; //A and //B as well as an HP-UX node "H".

H mounts A:// as /apollo.

H accesses a file on /apollo/B.

The file request goes to node A through NFS and then gets translated
to a DDS page-request to node B.  Node B supplies the page to node A
via DDS and Node A transfers the data to node H via NFS.

Therefore, all remote file accesses from Apollo nodes to HP-UX
nodes will go through node A.  This is an unnecessary link which
will affect performance.

A better solution is to install NFS on all of your Domain nodes
(with the transition from NFS2.3 to NFS4.1, a 2.3 license translates
to a 4.1 site license) and use the Automounter under HP-UX.  Then when
a file request for a file on Node B is queued, the Automounter will 
mount node B to wherever (presumably /apollo/B) and perform the
request.

: file, send a signal to 'init' to re-read /etc/ttys, and you have dialup
: using the standard Unix 'getty' process.

Preferably "kill -1 1" rather than something like "kill -9 1"... :-)

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From: %helios.physics.utoronto.ca%utcsri.UUCP%torn.UUCP%cs.utexas.edu%zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu%magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu%usenet.ins.cwru.edu%agate.UUCP%overload.lbl.gov@@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca  (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: Unable to restart edrgy after updating to 10.4, help
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Make sure you are running the same version of rgyd (and its friends)
on all your nodes - the SR10.4 rgyd won't talk to SR10.3/2/1/0,
so your slaves won't be in sync with the master. I don't have the
list of 3 files that should be identical on all systems (/etc/rgyd
is one of them). You can put the SR10.3 one on SR10.4, or vice versa
as I recall.
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From: saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!news.itd.umich.edu!pisa.citi.umich.edu!rees@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: Config says there's a floppy drive
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
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In article <6699@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, zzaascd@hpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes:

  I have never noticed *any* high-level effect arising from the configuration
  set with CONFIG.  I have used systems with this information set completely
  haywire, but nothing seemed to care.  *Does* anything actually use this
  information?

I know that if you install a 3com 505 ethernet board without the Apollo boot
rom on it, and tell config you've got an ethernet, then auto-boot (little
white button in normal mode) will fail.

Speaking of which, I find it very annoying that machines won't auto-boot
unless there is a keyboard plugged in.  Are there any tricks I can play with
config to make this work?
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From: bcstec!randall@uunet.uu.net  (Michael Randall)
Subject: Re: borrow mode screen lockers?
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle
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In article <1992Nov3.163809.6842@bcars6a8.bnr.ca>, djf@bnr.ca (Duane Fowler) writes:
> As the title says.  Anyone know of ones that, unlike xlock, are not
> defeated by hitting the defined hot key to switch back to DM?
> 
> Thanks,
> Duane

There is a program called "gone", that was published by the old ADUS (Apollo
Domain Users Society). I don't happen to have the code, but someone out
there might. It required a file in your user_data file with a textual
password, so you had to set the protection on it so no-one else could read
it. But it is quite functional, and allows you to specify a font to use for
the message you choose to display.
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From: paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!news.tu-graz.ac.at!fm11ap01!schinagl@gatech.edu  (Hermann Schinagl)
Subject: Another rgy problem
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 17:12:00 GMT
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Hi 

During working with the registry a strange problem occured
There is one account which can't be deleted, but does not exist
(Sounds weird). If I type 

do a
del nessi.pc.none
edrgy says: Sure to delete ... 
Well I type 'yes' but edrgy says that it is impossible
to delete nessi.pc.none. Ok I thought that nessi.pc.none
didn't exit, entered v and there was really no nessi in
the list. But If I grep for nessi in the passwd there is
still a nessi. ( obty of /etc/passwd is passwd !!!)

Adding another accounts or person confuses registry too, so
that rights of people got changed, who were not touched at all

Has someone had the same expirencies, is there a salrgy???
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From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!cserver!edsi!chuck@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Chuck Tomasi)
Subject: Re: Apollo upgrades
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 02:51:58 GMT
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mcgunmj1@teomail.jhuapl.edu (Mike McGunigale) writes:

:)I don't think DN3000's can be upgraded to DN5500's. Only 3500's and 4500's
:)can be upgraded to DN5500's. We've had 7 3500 to 5500 upgrades so far, and
:)the only drawback is the disk needs to be reformatted, something about
:)paging is different. Other than that, the upgrades have worked well. Contact
:)HP/Apollo for more details.

I beg to differ.  The DN3000 in my office was converted to a DN5500 at
my own hands.  I had to make to modifications to get it to work however.
The first is the arc shaped spring clip back by the service switch.  Rip
that sucker out or you'll never get the new motherboard to fit.  The
second is the memory slots.  You'll need a metal piece to extend out
from the chasis to the RAM boards if you plan on using anything other
than the DN3000 1 or 2MB boards (of course, who would want a 3000 with
only 8 MB of RAM when you can have a 5500 with 64 MB?)  HP sells that
little piece, but if you are on good terms with your CE he might be able
to send you one for a low price. ;)

I was amazed that all the holes line up, the controllers all work (in my
case), and now I have the only node with a modifiable LED panel!  Make
sure all the cards/adapters are supported on the new hardware.  Things
like the two slot token ring boards don't work on DN3550/4500/5500
machines.

Of course this is probably one of those things that HP doesn't support,
but I like to do anyway.
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From: sun-barr!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!ttsi!agerhardt@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Alan Gerhardt)
Subject: Need Some Advice..
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc. Plano, Tx.
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:35:51 GMT
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I have recently inherited responsibility for a network os about 40
HP9000/4xx workstations( Domain 10.4 ), and 1 HP9000/710 (HP-UX 8.7).
I would like to solicit any advice I could get about the following 3 
topics:


1) What's the best way to integrate the 710 into the Domain network,
   i.e. NFS mount the network root onto the 710, mount each using 
   node onto the 710, etc.?
   
2) What would be the best strategy for migrating the Domain network to
   HP-UX?   
   
3) What is the best way to implement a shared modem pool which would 
   allow dial-in access to the network?
   
   
   Thanks in advance
   Alan
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From: news.mentorg.com!scraig@uunet.uu.net  (Stuart Craig)
Subject: Re: HP/Apollo -> Sun
Organization: Mentor Graphics
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In article <1992Nov3.011116.3726@pentode.uucp>, paul@pentode.uucp (Paul Walker) writes:
>    I'm probably about to put one or two feet in my mouth...
>
>    A friend of mine wrote a tape on a Sun, and I was able to read it on an
>Apollo.  The catch was that he had to use the correct device (/dev/XXX) when
>he wrote the tape.  I don't recall which device it was, but it worked fine.
>He did mention something about having to be careful because the normal
>capacity of the drive/tape was higher than that of the apollo.

He must have been using a Sun QIC-24 drive then, not a QIC-150.  As Carl
Heinzl points out below the Sun QIC-24 drive defaults to QIC-11 format
(which the Apollo can't read) unless you use the nrst8-11 devices.

And...

In article <CARL.92Nov3151040@atlantis.Cayman.COM>, carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl) writes:
>
>>The problems with tar is not the file format, but the DRIVE density in all
>>the cases I've seen. The Apollo c-tapes are usually Lower density than the
>>SUN drives. If they are networked, I would either FTP them or tar them to a
>
>From the FAQ...
>
> 29)  How can I read cartridges written on SUN systems?
>
>Answer:
>APOLLO supports the new QIC 24 Tape Format only. Sun supports the
>(obsolete?) QIC 11 (default) and QIC 24 formats.  Some older Suns do
>not support QIC 24.
>
>If you write tar tapes on a Sun please use the QIC 24 format.
>This corresponds to the Sun nrst8-11 devices, for instance 
>the /dev/nrst8.  For more information, you may try 'man 4 intro'
>and 'man 4s st' on your Sun.
>
>Then the archive can be read with the Apollo /dev/rct12 
>device.
>--------
>Since then, newer suns support still another (higher density) QIC 150
>format.  However they still support QIC 24, which is the only format
>supported on the Apollos.

This last statement is a little misleading.  The QIC-150 drive will
only _write_ QIC-150.  It will automatically sense and read both QIC-11
and QIC-24.

We purchased five QIC-24 drives from Sun two years ago for use in our
Software Manufacturing department.  At that time Sun was no longer
selling QIC-24 drives; we had to make a special deal through their
customer service.  They sold us some old Sun3 expansion boxes which
each contained one 300+ MB hard drive and one QIC-24 cartridge drive.
We still have four of those drives connected to a couple of our Sun
SparcSTATION 2s.  We had to purchase the QIC-24 drives because there
is no way to write a QIC-24 format tape with a QIC-150 drive.

Later,
Stu

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From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!cserver!edsi!chuck@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Chuck Tomasi)
Subject: Re: 19l display question
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 12:33:46 GMT
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waldram@SILVERTIP.UWYO.EDU ("James J. Waldram") writes:

:)I have 2 19" color monitors (1024x800x8)(19l display type) that are 
:)becomming darker and hard to read.  Does anyone have any suggestions 
:)for internal brightness adjustments, or interface card 
:)adjustments/fixes. 

I don't recommend opening up the monitors unless you are absolutely sure
you know what you are doing.  Color monitors are a little trickier than
monochrome.

We had about 10-12 monitors in that condition.  It is an aging sign of
the Panasonic monitors that Apollo used.  The only cure we found was to
get HP to replace them on the grounds that they were not performing
well.  Of course this was on major advantage of having a service
contract.  If you don't have a service contract then I wish you good
luck and Godspeed.
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From: adm!akatz@nyu.edu  (Alan Katz)
Subject: /etc/termcap entry for hp98550
Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD.
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:31:56 GMT
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Does anyone out there have a /etc/termcap entry for an hp98550? I would like to have this for remotely logging in from an HPUX system. If not, is there a way to create one from the terminfo stuff on HPUX?

Thanks,
Alan Katz
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From: destroyer!news.itd.umich.edu!pisa.citi.umich.edu!rees@gumby.wisc.edu  (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: Mentor graphics/Apollo 3000 info request
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
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In article <96822@netnews.upenn.edu>, hurtubis@a.chem.upenn.edu (Vincent Hurtubise) writes:

     There used to be a larger disk and a tape drive.  Is the included (80 MB)
  drive big enough or would I need to buy some additional disks ?

I've got sr10.3 installed on the 70 Mb disk in my dn330, and I've got 45 Mb
free.
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From: agate!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!torn!nott!bnrgate!bcars6a8!bnr.ca!djf@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Duane Fowler)
Subject: Re: Need Some Advice..
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:28:37 GMT
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In article <1992Nov5.201427@helix.nih.gov>, rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable) writes:
|> ...
|> token ring, we plan to run Domain/OS as long as possible.  Frankly,
|> NFS,
|> ethernet, and X windows are a step backwards as far as many long time
|> Apollo
|> users are concerned.  
|> 

Not to start a religious war or anything but, as a user of both windowing 
systems, I'm interested in knowing what people see in Domain pads, editor,
etc.  Sure the ability to search back through the pads was nice, but the 
functionality exists with Xterms -  just not as gracefully.

Other than that though there is little I miss.  I found the window manager
really painful for reasons too numerous to mention, but most had to do
with how little I was able to customize it.  There seemed to be too few
ways to do neat things that X, MWM, et al can do using resources, xset, etc.

Maybe I just didn't pick up the DM tricks along the way; if so I blame it
partly on the lack of documentation compared to O'Reilly and all the other
authors at various levels on X.

So what sorts of thing could DM do that X can't?


Regards,

Duane Fowler
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From: nih-csl.dcrt.nih.gov!helix.nih.gov!rvenable@uunet.uu.net  (Richard M. Venable)
Subject: Re: Need Some Advice..
Organization: National Institutes of Health
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In article <1992Nov5.163551.2615@ttsi.lonestar.org>,
agerhardt@ttsi.lonestar.org (Alan Gerhardt) writes:
|> I have recently inherited responsibility for a network os about 40
|> HP9000/4xx workstations( Domain 10.4 ), and 1 HP9000/710 (HP-UX
8.7).
|> I would like to solicit any advice I could get about the following 3
|> topics:
|> 
|> 
|> 1) What's the best way to integrate the 710 into the Domain network,
|>    i.e. NFS mount the network root onto the 710, mount each using 
|>    node onto the 710, etc.?

On the 710, you can mount the network root (//) as /apollo and then
have
access to all the Domain/OS nodes ( /apollo/nodeA, /apollo/nodeB,
etc.).
The 710 can be mounted on one NFS server node at the network root, e.g.
as //hp710, and is then accessible to all the Domain/OS nodes.
    
|> 2) What would be the best strategy for migrating the Domain network
to
|>    HP-UX?   

Because of the superior networking model and the advantages of the
Domain
token ring, we plan to run Domain/OS as long as possible.  Frankly,
NFS,
ethernet, and X windows are a step backwards as far as many long time
Apollo
users are concerned.  If you must switch to HP/UX, I recommend trying it
on
a few 9000/4xx machines first, and not convert them all at once.
  
|> 3) What is the best way to implement a shared modem pool which would
|>    allow dial-in access to the network?

Not sure what you mean here; most of these systems have a serial port or
two,
so that's certainly one option.  Just connect the modem, edit the
'/etc/ttys'
file, send a signal to 'init' to re-read /etc/ttys, and you have dialup
using the standard Unix 'getty' process.

You can probably also buy some sort of dedicated telecomm box that
supports
multiple modems and connects to the net via ethernet; I know such things
exist,
but not who makes them, how much $$$, or any other pertinent details.

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From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!gateway@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Darian K. Lewis)
Subject: Please post.
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Could you please post this for me as I have not gotten around to
installing news.  Thanks. 

To: comp.sys.apollo

I have an Apollo 9000/720 and need to know if it is possible to play
digitized sounds though the internal speaker.  I have some digital
audio I need incorporated in a program.  I am jealous of Sun for their
/dev/audio but I *refuse* to give up unless someone can tell me
definitely I am crazy.  Thanks.  Please email any comments you may
have about this, sans crazy declarations to:
dlewis@sadlab.trans.comsat.com

Much appreciated!
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From: nih-csl.dcrt.nih.gov!helix.nih.gov!rvenable@uunet.uu.net  (Richard M. Venable)
Subject: Re: talkd - ntalkd
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 05:38:40 GMT
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In article <1992Oct29.232404.10056@news2.cis.umn.edu> aris <aris@ap1.me.umn.edu> writes:
>I have 10.4.0.3 installed on DN3000s and DN4000s and I have trouble making
>the ntalkd daemon work!!!  Everytime I invoke the daemon (as root of cource)
>it exits (fails actually...) without any messages and/or warnings.
>Is there something I should do with any configuration files?
>Should I have fingerd running too?
>(maybe ntalkd is broken?)
>
>Any help/suggestions will be greately appreciated.
>(You are welcome to e-mail your suggestions at aris@ap1.me.me.umn.edu)

You should check the /etc/inetd.conf file to see if the 'ntalkd' service is
enabled.


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From: destroyer!%caen.UUCP%sdd.hp.com%swrinde.UUCP%news.dell.com%natinst.com%cs.utexas.edu%uwm.edu%linac.UUCP%pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu%cis.ohio-state.edu%magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu@usenet.ins.  (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Where can I find EMACS for the HP 750 ?
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 22:46:35 GMT
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In article <9211022158.AA07276@monk.proteon.com>
Bill_Horsthemke_at_CTC@RELAY.PROTEON.COM writes:

:We need to move our DN10K code to the HP750, but
:need GNU emacs. Does anyone know of a FTP distribution
:point which supports this HPUX box ?

If you're referring to the HP 9000/750, GNU Emacs is available for
anonymous FTP from prep.ai.mit.edu.  GNU Emacs 18.58+ should compile
cleanly on the HP 9000/700 series.  Pre-configured implementations of
GNU Emacs may be available for anonymous FTP from the Interworks or
Liverpool FTP archives, but it's downright FUN to watch GNU Emacs
compile so fast on an HP.  :)

						...Mike


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From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!uniol!majestix.informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de!frl@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Frank Luthe)
Subject: HP-UX on Apollos - possible ?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Kiel, Germany
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:45:42 GMT
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Sorry, if this is a FAQ.

Is it possible to run HP-UX on Apollo DN 3500 (4500) workstations?

Frank
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