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From: rasure@nell.eece.unm.edu (John Rasure)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: RE:  repost: processing 16 bit images
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:11:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37457


In "repost: processing 16 bit images", "NAME = \" \"" writes:
+ Hi,
+ 
+ We are intersted to process 16 bit images with Khoros. As far as I can see
+ most of the "Classification, Morphology and Segmentation" routines do only
+ work with 8 bit images. 

To add to what Tom Sauer said:

The morphology programs are just BINARY routines, not GREY level routines,
so regardless of the data type, these routines just look for O and non-0.

For the classification routines that use float data, convert your short
images to float using vconvert.  Khoros does assume that the short
images are SIGNED, so if yours are UNSIGNED, you will have to massage
the conversion some.

+ Did anybody ever write new routines in this field that allow to process 16
+ bit images, or did anybody ever try to modfiy existing routines in respect
+ to make them run with 16 bit images?
+ 
+ I look forward to here from you,
+ 
+ ---Stefan
+ 
+ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+ Stefan Herr                           |  Internet: herr@embl-heidelberg.de
+ European Molecular Biology Laboratory |  Tel: 0049 - 6221 - 387532
+ 6900 Heidelberg, Germany              |  Fax: 0049 - 6221 - 387306
+ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
End of message from "NAME = \" \""
From: dav@coos.dartmouth.edu (William David Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: batch jobs?
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:52:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37341


I have looked through the user manual (Volume I, is there more?) and
I have two questions.

1).  Can the variuous plotting programs (xprism2, xprism3, ???) plot in
	multiple viewports?

I would like to devide the window into a left side and a right side so
I can compare two plots.  Is this possible?

2).  Does Khoros have a batch mode?

Suppose I have a certain format I want to produce a series of plots in.
I have 200 seperate data files with two columns of data in them and I
want each to be plotted with column 1 vs. column 2 and bow tie point
markers.  Is there some way I can create the plot I want for the first
data file and then run a single command, supplying the name of the 
datafile in each run, to get a plot of each different file?  (Is this
question clear?)

-dav
From: danielle@bullwinkle.eece.unm.edu (/usr/spool/mail/danielle)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Programming with Khoros
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:12:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37296

On Mar 31,  5:11pm, Xiaochun Wang wrote:
} Subject: Programming with Khoros
} 
} We program with code generation from ghost and conductor.  However, if
} we want to modify the GUI, we need to rewrite the codes we have added in.
} Is there any way we need NOT to rewrite our codes, when changing GUI?
} 
} Thanks,
} X.Wang
}-- End of excerpt from Xiaochun Wang

	When changing the geometry, labels, or default value of a GUI item, 
	you need not rewrite the code in any way.  If you interchange the 
	order of lines in the UIS, you must re-run conductor, but don't need
	to change your code.  However, if you add an item, delete an item,
	change an item from live to non-live or vice versa, or change the 
	variable name of an item, you must change your code.  

	Conductor is designed to be a "programmer's assistant", not a
	"real programmer".  Theoretically it is quite possible to write 
	conductor in such a way as to eliminate the need to rewrite code in
	the GUI drivers when making such changes to the GUI.  In practice, 
	however, the limitations and restrictions of such an implementation 
	would make (the use of, and the code generated by) conductor so 
	cumbersome that the situation would be made worse rather than better.  

	Contrary to what some might have us believe, the human still reigns 
	in the realm of intelligent source code modification!

		~ danielle

       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       ~   Danielle Argiro - danielle@bullwinkle.eece.unm.edu   ~
       ~   Software Design & Development                        ~
       ~   The Khoros Group, EECE Dept, UNM                     ~
       ~   Albuquerque, New Mexico  87131                       ~
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From: simon@itt-mta-gw2arpa.fal-braunschweig.dbp.de
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:08:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37435


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Regards
Ludger Simon
From: kk@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Konstantinos Konstantinides)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: calloc error on an HP
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:17:46 GMT
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA

/ hpl-opus:comp.soft-sys.khoros / peteb@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Peter A. Bakke) /  6:21 pm  Apr  9, 1992 /

>A coworker has successfully compiled Khoros, Patch 4, on an HP-9000/380
>running HP-UX 8.0.
>
>When he runs cantata or editimage, he can bring up a help window but if
>he tries something else (like opening an input form) he gets the error:
>X Toolkit Error: cannot perform calloc
>
>The same thing happens with composer but the message is then:
>Error: cannot perform calloc
>
>He tells me he has 80MBytes of RAM, so that shouldn't be a problem. He's also
>tried this using both the HP supplied X server and the MIT (X11.R4) server.
>
>Anyone seen this one before ?
>
>Thanks, peter b.
>----------

Yes, I have seen that. It has nothing to do with the server, but
it is related to his
X11 binaries and include files (the athena widgets).

I recommend that he ftps from hpcvaaz.cv.hp.com either
ftp/pub/MitX11R4/libs.s300.Z , or the latest X11R5 bits that are there.

Konstantin
kk@hpkronos.hpl.hp.com
From: gdcarson@icaen.uiowa.edu (Gregory Donald Carson)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Help ... cantata, etc
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:32:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37410


Help!,

	I have ftp'd, and ./ installit'd the khoros data, src, and system
file.  The compile and installation seemed to go fine.  I have set up my
environment, made sure there was a path statement to the khoros binaries,
put the sample .Xdefaults into my .Xdefaults file, and I source the 
.khoros_env file which is in my home directory.
	I have been able to use some things such as vshrink to verify that
the program is working, however, and this is the problem, I cant seem to be
able to use any of the 'good' stuff.
	Here is a sampling of the things I have tried

	cantata (example from Getting Started)
	animate
	editimage
	viewimage
	xprism2
	xprism3

	all of these I tried exactly as indicated in Chapter 1, Getting
Started,of Vol 1 Users Manual.
	Have I missed something that I needed, did I forget to install
something that I need to install.  HELP I really need to get this working
asap.

	Thank you all for reading my post to the khoros users group, and
thanks for any help anyone can be.

Greg
 
cute block not done yet...........gdcarson@icaen.uiowa.edu
From: manning@halley.serc.3m.com (Arthur T. Manning)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Khoros complaints
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:12:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37300


   ...
   There are several questions that answer this in the FAQ.
   ...

Please send/point me to the FAQ, so I can complain about *real*
problems in the future :^).

It sounds like you were/are on the right track regarding my
complaints.  Mr. Schultz flamed me for not sounding polite in my
posting.  My apologies if I sounded rude. I just didn't care to
waste bandwidth, and wanted to get right to the point.

I'm sure you'll be hearing from me in the future, if things go as
planned.

Thanks for your response.

Arthur 

Arthur T. Manning   <manning@halley.est.3m.com>  
3M Center 518-1    St Paul MN  55144-1000        \___/______         
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From: pgage@ads.com (Pamela Gage)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: How to display graphics on top of an image
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:05:09 GMT

Can someone give me a hint about how to draw graphics so
that they come out on top of an image?  As an initial
test, I have created an xvroutine that combines the image
display functions from example2 in the example_toolbox,
and the line drawing code from example1.  

The image displays in the viewport as expected.  When I
click on my action button, however, no lines are drawn.
If I remove the call to xvd_create_raster, the lines are
being drawn in the underlying viewport.  Since xvd_create_raster
creates a widget which is displayed in the viewport, this
also makes sense.  

I tried looking at editimage, but clearly things are not being
done with the kind of simple-minded calls to xgraphics routines
that I have in mind.  So, what is the trick to drawing on *top* 
of an image?
From: padam@chouette.saclay.cea.fr (Pascal Adam)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re:  Khoros as an Open System (please read and discuss)
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:09:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37286

CEA (french atomic Commission), as  KHOROS Consortium Supporting
member,  and  European Khoros  Agent,  totally agrees with  this
decision.

We  think it is  important  for the Khoros  group to concentrate
its efforts on Khoros 2.0.

The  Khoros Community can interact by helping each other and not
by  expecting   UNM  answering  systematically  to  every single
question.
I am convinced  that a lot  of questions asked on email could be
answered  by  the  Khoros  community. It would increased contact
between people from all over the world.

Nevertheless, my opinion is that important points or complicated
ones  should be  processed  by  UNM. A  second  point I  want to
clarify as well is the Khoros_consort Mail. I  think the  answer
from UNM should be made available to every one in the community.

It is very important to see the consortium growing and I am
convinced this will happen.



	Pascal


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From: harold@baby.pgd.hawaii.edu (Harold Garbeil~)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: symbol _f_exit
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:17:16 GMT

I recently acquired and built khoros on a Sun4.  Most of the system compiled 
smoothly except for about 10 occurences of an undefined symbol message given
by the 'ld'. The symbol that is undefined is _f_exit.  This message occured 
when trying to build some of the fourier programs ( ...vipl/transform2d/vfft)
and some of the warp programs.   Any ideas on where the problem may reside.
Thanks.
Harold
From: rasure@borris.eece.unm.edu (John Rasure)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Please Help out the Khoros Developers in Answering Mail
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:27:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37375


I was going to work up a detailed list of how this newsgroup could 
best be used, etc.  But I thought I would just try an informal approach.

So, here is a couple of things that would help us out.

    1)  When you post a question to the newsgroup, and get several answers, 
	post a summary of the answers back to the newsgroup.  This lets us 
	know that the question was answered, and lets the rest of the 
	community know what the answer was.

    2)  If you post a question, and do not get an answer in a week to 10
	days, then repost the question.  Mark the subject header as a
	repost.  The Khoros developers will watch for these and make an extra
	effort to get them answered.

    3)  We are changing how we internally deal with mail sent to
	khoros-bugs@chama.eece.unm.edu.  It used to get put in a file, and
	then propagated to our "TODO list".  In addition to this, it
	will now be sent to all of the Khoros developers at UNM.  We want to 
	give Khoros bug mail more attention, we will consider this mail 
	as having priority over Khoros newsgroup mail.
	
	Please use khoros-bugs for bug reports only.


Thanks for helping out.
From: nilsen@cs.uri.edu (Ron Nilsen)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Overlays in Editimage
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:00:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37456


I'm using Khoros 1.0 PL5 on a Sun4/X11R5/O.S. 4.1.1 and twm.  I created an
image of 1's and 0's to use as an overlay...used vconvert to bit, and now
have a mask....0's where I want the origional pic to show, and 1's where I
don`t.  When I use this as an overlay in Editimage, I get either the origional
image, or the overlay,...but not both.  In other words, I can see the mask, or
the origional image, but do not get the mask "overlaid" as I read in the manual.
When I select the OVERLAY IMAGE(S) in the Display Utils menu, I can toggle between
the image, and the mask...and the displayed pixel values at the bottom always
display the correct value of the image.
    I tried the same with the supplied ball.bit, and get the same.  I also tried
to use the same mask as a clip..and get no change to the displayed image. Using
ball.bit as a clip mask doesn't seem to work either.
  If I use it as a shape mask, that seems to work OK, as the background screen
shows through for the 0 values.
  Am I doing something wrong here with the overlay's and clip mask?

Thanks

Ron Nilsen
From: danielle@bullwinkle.eece.unm.edu (/usr/spool/mail/danielle)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: easy to use PIXEL-drawing program ???
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:10:06 GMT


	Greetings, 

On Apr 6,  1:20pm, Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd# wrote:
} Subject: easy to use PIXEL-drawing program ???
} Hi,
} 
} is there ANY easy-to-use pixel orientated PAINT/DRAWING
} program for (lets say) BYTE-VIFF-Images ?
	no... it would be nice to have one, though!
} 
} or is there any X11-PAINT-program (at all) available
} as C-source-code for 256-grey-scales ?

	although it will probably not be exactly what you want, 
	you might try the "tgif" program, which is available as
	part of the X11R5 distribution, or you can get it off
	pprg.eece.unm.edu in /pub/dist/X11/tgif-2.12.tar.Z.

	You can draw, paint, make diagrams, etc in color with
	tgif.  It is a fun package.  It can write out X Bitmaps,
	X Pixmaps, and PostScript, and is very easy to learn.

	So, you could create a drawing, diagram, etc with tgif,
	write it out as an X Pixmap (note that they use a rather
	old version of the X Pixmap format), into a file called,
	say, drawing.xpm.  Then, you'd convert it to VIFF with:
	
	1) xpmtoppm < drawing.xpm > drawing.ppm
	2) pbm2viff -i drawing.ppm -o drawing.xv

	And there you are!  Display with putimage, modify with 
	editimage as desired.
	
	
} ANY helpfull hint is wellcome ...
} 
} - -- 
}   ___            ------------------------------------- 
}  /  /  _____    !  jogl@tolkien.imsd.rwth-aachen.de   !
}  __/__/_/ Gl    !  Inst. f. Med. Stat. & Doku. (IMSD) !
} /_/             !  Aachen, Germany, Europe, Earth     !
}-- End of excerpt from Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#

		~ danielle

       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       ~   Danielle Argiro - danielle@bullwinkle.eece.unm.edu   ~
       ~   Software Design & Development                        ~
       ~   The Khoros Group, EECE Dept, UNM                     ~
       ~   Albuquerque, New Mexico  87131                       ~
       ~                                                        ~
       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: michael@cs.huji.ac.il (Michael Naaman)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Yet Problems with patch 5 compilation
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:37:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37340


   Hello all.

   I tried both to touch the expr_lex.l and to rm the expr_lex.c . The former
result was no change in message (ld.so: undefined symbol expr_lval).
The latter, however, produced (when tryng to operate any khoros program) the
following message: ld.so: Undefined symbol: _yylval.

Can anyone help?

    Thanx

=====>   Michael
           CS System Group, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel
|==========================================================================|
| The beauty of knowledge is, that when you share it, you don't loose.     |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| All opinions expressed here are mine - nothing to do with my employer.   |
|						Michael			   |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
From: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: compiling khoros with shared libraries on SUN SPARC and SCO UNIX ??
Date: 11 Apr 1992 01:31:45 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuro.usc.edu

I would appreciate a script or procedure for compiling khoros using shared
libraries on SUN SPARC and SCO UNIX SYSV/386 machines.  Perhaps someone not
in the khoros development group could post an approximate procedure.  

Thanks, AJ
From: jogl@bilbo.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Combinding Annotation WITHOUT Editimage <<
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:05:07 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation

sorry, if this a FAQ, BUT:

is there a tool that can COMBINE ANNOTATIONS _w_i_t_h_o_u_t_
using EDITIMAGE ?
 
ANY helpfull hint is wellcome ...

-- 
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 /  /  _____    !  jogl@tolkien.imsd.rwth-aachen.de   !
 __/__/_/ Gl    !  Inst. f. Med. Stat. & Doku. (IMSD) !
/_/             !  Aachen, Germany, Europe, Earth     !
From: duncan@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Shan D Duncan)
Subject: khoros on rs6k with aix 3.2
Originator: duncan@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:21:55 GMT


Has anyone compiled khoros on the ibm rs 6000 line
under the new os - if so would you mind sharing the necessary
changes - if not anyone have any hints?


At the moment I am very pressed for time and very new to the
platform and X but it looks like it would be very useful.



Thank you


-Shan
From: gdcarson@icaen.uiowa.edu (Gregory Donald Carson)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Khoros Starting Problems
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:22:23 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Originator: gdcarson@temp2

Three posts, ...er..... , messages and questions

 (1) Help!,

        I have ftp'd, and ./ installit'd the khoros data, src, and system
files.  The compile and installation seemed to go fine.  I have set up my
environment, made sure there was a path statement to the khoros binaries,
put the sample .Xdefaults into my .Xdefaults file, and I source the
.khoros_env file which is in my home directory.
        I have been able to use some things such as vshrink to verify that
the program is working, however, and this is the problem, I cant seem to be
able to use any of the 'good' stuff.
        Here is a sampling of the things I have tried

        cantata (example from Getting Started)
        animate
        editimage
        viewimage
        xprism2
        xprism3

        all of these I tried exactly as indicated in Chapter 1, Getting
Started,of Vol 1 Users Manual.
        Have I missed something that I needed, did I forget to install
something that I need to install.  HELP I really need to get this working
asap.

        Thank you all for reading my post to the khoros users group, and
thanks for any help anyone can be.

Greg

cute block not done yet...........gdcarson@icaen.uiowa.edu


 (2) Hello Khoros Users,

        I was also wondering if there was anyway to start the overall
khoros prorgam once I am in the X windows environment.  As I described in a
letter just previous I think I installed all the necessary stuff, and really
want to be able to use this program, but have not been able to get any of the
good stuff to work.
        I keep searching through the bin directory and trying commands
but so far none of the reall cool things I have heard so much about and want
to use to build my programs from has poped up.
        Please pardon the excessive mail from me, and thanks for your help

Greg

cute block not done yet...........gdcarson@icaen.uiowa.edu

 (3) Hello, Can someone tell me where it is I can find kraftsman to install
the example_toolbox, I think that is where the cantata stuff is at and I cant 
seem to be able to install it.

Greg

cute block not done yet...........gdcarson@icaen.uiowa.edu


THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP.........oh yeah and one more thing can some one tell
me the email address to mail questions to khoros#chama.eece.edu ?

Greg

cute block not done yet...........gdcarson@icaen.uiowa.edu
From: danielle@bullwinkle.eece.unm.edu (/usr/spool/mail/danielle)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: REPOST: Overlays in Editimage
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:17:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.37530


	Hello,

On Apr 17,  6:54am, Ron Nilsen wrote:
} Subject: REPOST: Overlays in Editimage
} 
} I'm using Khoros 1.0 PL5 on a Sun4/X11R5/O.S. 4.1.1 and twm.  I created an
} image of 1's and 0's to use as an overlay...
}
} [description of overlay omitted]
}
} When I use this as an overlay in Editimage, I get either the origional
} image, or the overlay,...but not both.  In other words, I can see the mask, or
} the origional image, but do not get the mask "overlaid" as I read in the 
} manual.
}
} [further details omitted]
}
}   Am I doing something wrong here with the overlay's and clip mask?

	No, you are not doing anything wrong ... we verified this bug on
	our Sun4/OS4.1.1,  although the bug does not seem to show itself
	on DecMips architectures.  Apologies for any inconvenience this may have
	caused, but we have added it to our bug list and we do appreciate
	you letting us know about it.
}
} Ron Nilsen
} University of Rhode Island
} nilsen@cs.uri.edu
}-- End of excerpt from Ron Nilsen

		thank you,

			~ danielle

       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       ~   Danielle Argiro - danielle@bullwinkle.eece.unm.edu   ~
       ~   Software Design & Development                        ~
       ~   The Khoros Group, EECE Dept, UNM                     ~
       ~   Albuquerque, New Mexico  87131                       ~
       ~                                                        ~
       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~