HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mike@gcnext.gac.peachnet.edu (Michael A. Murphy)
Subject: Re: WANT GCC? FORGET FAQ.GCC AND README?? READ THIS FIRST!!!!
Organization: Georgia College - Milledgeville, GA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:07:40 GMT

In article <186a86INNcsb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
>
>Forget README and FAQ.
>THEY JUST AREN'T WORTH THE TIME READING!!!!!!!!!!!
>

Thanks you, HLU, for all the work you have put into giving Linux
a good implementation of GCC.  Reading comprehension (or lack thereof)
is not your problem.  The README and FAQ are fine.

>This is the linux source code. Get the patches if you want them.
>(I personally haven't figured out what to do with them. :) )

I have a couple of suggestions on what you could do with them, but it
would probably be uncomfortable.  

>The reason that we have to do all this crap is because LINUX has a
>limitation on length of filenames. UNIX doesn't have them. 
>DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS CAN BE CHANGED??????

If you occasionally tried _reading_ the info available about linux
you would know that this could be changed.  Since reading FAQs, DOCs,
and release info is obviously _NOT_ one of your favorite things, it
is fine with me if you continue be ignorant of how to get extended
files names.

>
>Hopefully this will motivate someone (in authority?) to make this
>installation process a little easier.
>
>-- 

I never thought I would say this, but:
If Linux is making your life so miserable, please go back to DOS,
or buy a Mac, or get some little wooden blocks that you can stack
on top of each other.  Maybe stacking little wooden blocks would
be better suited to your capabilities.

To all other readers:  My apologies, but i am extremely tired of
listening to people gripe about FTP sites, GCC installation, Linux
shortcomings is general.  We should be (and _I_ am) extremely 
grateful to the people who have put much time and energy into
making Linux avaiable to us.  My thanks to all involved with Linux
(archive sites, programmers, porters) for making a great free
OS available to me.   Please don't think that the few who bitch
and moan are representative of the community making use of your
work.  Most of us really appreciate what you have done.

Thanks,
mike


-- 
     ====================================================================
       Michael A. Murphy                   mike@gcnext.gac.peachnet.edu
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNU kids on the block?   (sorry... couldn't resist)
Keywords: Linux, GNU, FSF, Mach, single-server, volunteer
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:57:03 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug25.195316.9174@kithrup.COM>, sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan) writes:

| There are a lot of people who do not want or need the complexity that comes
| with a multi-server, and, so, I guess there is a movement to make Linux work
| on top of Mach3.0.

  Here comes that idea again... The first o/s I helped write ran about
2/3 of the kernel in user mode, with user programs mapped into the
addressing space. Multics was using rings to get some of the same
things you get with setuid(), namely a limited set of privileges. GCOS
used a multi-threaded kernel (sort of) with multiple processors all
scampering around inside waving flags at one another. It even had
almost lightweight processes to handle i/o interrupts in user space.

  That was mid 60's and it's interesting that the idea of monolithic
kernel is once again drifting out of vogue. Unfortunately I don't think
the multiserver is right direction, since everything else in computers
is headed for less compleity rather than more. Multi-server is the CISC
of software, a sort of hypercube of processes rather than processors.
I'm all in favor of modularity (look at some of my net code), but I am
not convinced that this is the best way to get there.

  I like the Linux RISC-like approach, do only a few things, but very
well and very fast. Build the complex functions out of sequences of
simple operations. To me this means simple kernel calls and the library
providing the complex stuff.

  Don't take this as a rejection of multi-server by me, I'm unconvinced
rather than convinced against. Sort of a software agnostic.
  
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: balasub@organ.cis.ohio-state.edu (Krishna Balasubramanian)
Subject: XFAQ, ATI graphics ULTRA? Speedstar? XVGA, S3, Xmouses.
Originator: balasub@organ.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science
	<1992Sep2.173759.10722@pool.info.sunyit.edu>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:29:33 GMT

>I have repeatedly seen people asking about particular ATI cards.  The problem
>is that ATI has so many different models!  Perhaps we should add a list of
>ATI cards to the X FAQ showing which particular models DO work?  Diamond is
>starting to get confusing, also, since they are using non-ET4000 chips on
>some of their cards and even some of the Diamond ET4000 cards aren't working
>with X.

>Please don't send me mail about this, I have a video card that works with
>X.  It is a Diamond SpeedStar, just a plain old pre-highcolor SpeedStar
>but it isn't the SpeedStar Plus, either.  (See what I mean about confusing?)

Send such information to me at balasub@cis.ohio-state.edu
... be as specific as possible 
.... If you barely know what you're doing dont respond
	(I expect  many replies any way).
 
Video card model, monitor, success, settings.
mouse : success, failure, setting.

I'm updating the XFAQ.

krishna
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: tar and compress
Date: 2 Sep 1992 13:14:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu



could someone please provide the easiest US sites for obtaining compress
and tar under MSDOS???? I've looked at some of the sites in the "FAQS"
but with no luck.

I thought they would be a wuarchive.....but I couldn't find 'em.
Thanx in advance.

-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis      "There is no middle ground/Or that's how it seems/For 
Thieves Like Us        us to walk or to take/Instead we tumble down/Either
mal11@po.cwru.edu      side left or right/To love or to hate."
					-A Strange Kind of Love
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ejb@ERA.COM (Jay Berkenbilt)
Subject: gcc 2.2.2d: htonl, etc. problem with -O and netinet/in.h
Organization: Engineering Research Associates, Vienna, VA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:14:52 GMT


Hello.  With gcc 2.2.2d, htonl, htons, ntohl, or ntohs,
everything works fine except when you #include <netinet/in.h>
and compile with -O.  In this case, bytes/words are not swapped.
This can be demonstrated with the following program:

#include <netinet/in.h>
int main(void)
{
    printf("%08x, %08x, %04x, %04x\n",
	   htonl(0x01020304), ntohl(0x01020304),
	   htons(0x0102), ntohs(0x0102));
    return 0;
}

The output of this program should be

04030201, 04030201, 0201, 0201

If you compile this with gcc -O, you will get

01020304, 01020304, 0102, 0102

Although it seems that this should be an error with the inline
assembly routines defined in netinet/in.h, I'm not sure whether
that is really the problem or not.  Either not including
<netinet/in.h> or not using -O produces correct results.


-- 
                                Jay Berkenbilt (ejb@ERA.COM)
                                Engineering Research Associates
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Subject: Re: Local Bus Machines
Reply-To: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Organization: The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:15:38 GMT

bennetjd@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:

>Would Linux and X run on a machine with Local Bus SVGA and a Local Bus
>IDE drive?

yes. I'm running linux and X on one now.
-- 
The Upholder of Truth		  	    I am not only ready to
Upholder@uiuc.edu (BSD/ASCII mail)          retract this, but also
jar42733@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (NeXT mail)    deny I said anything.  =)
wi.4173@wizvax.methuen.ma.us (anon. mail)   This is *NOT* CCSO's opinion.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: stewart@wimsey.bc.ca (Jim Stewart)
Subject: Re: Xwindows
Organization: Wimsey 
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:57:59 GMT

I just bought a *real inexpensive* ET4000 based  board.  after a bit of initial
messing about with Xconfig, X came up  fine in 640x484 mode.  "Great" I thought,
so now for better res... I ran CLOCK.EXE and it consistantly reports 4 values:

        25 28 33 and 36

hmmm.. where are the higher frequency clocks?  So I commented out the 
"clocks"  line in Xconfig and did a startx 2>startx.log ... X386 reports
sixteen clock values!

        25 28 33 36 40 45 32 38 51 57 66 73 80 90 63 76

I have a MAG14 monitor wich is not in the list but says it supports
non interlaced 1024x768.  There is a timeing entry in the stock config file
for this resolution at 62Mhz ...so I changed the 62 to a 63 and tried it,
It works.  There is more flicker than I am used to (I am used to TEXT modes)
so that is the next step...  If any one  has timeings for higher refresh
rates fot the Magic View 14 monitor, I would like to hear from them.

js


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bjl@loki.research.ptt.nl (Ben Lippolt)
Subject: Re: Swap files (was: Re: .97 kernel and root disk/probs with swapping)
Reply-To: B.J.Lippolt@research.ptt.nl
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:29:01 GMT

torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.083154.5064@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
>>In article <bjl.715328078@freyr> B.J.Lippolt@research.ptt.nl writes:
>>>
>>>On the subject of swapping. 
>>>
>>>Would it be possible to implement a scheme (a la SunOS) where you can 
>>>'add' swap files to the swap space?
>>
>>It wouldn't be too hard: right now swap-map numbers are 31-bit entities,
>[ explanation on how to implement it deleted ]

>Ok, don't implement this: I already did it, and the (minor, as promised)
>changes will be in the next patch.

>		Linus

This is one of the things I like about Linux. Before you can blink with 
your eyes a suggestion like this is already turned into code! Compare 
this to any commercial Unix where you report a bug (or ask for a feature)
and you have to wait at least half a year to see if they want to consider
it at all. 

Nice work, Linus!


Ben Lippolt.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joef@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Joe Fool)
Subject: Re: My First Post.
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:30:26 GMT


  Linus.. we have eyes everywhere... [Found this in alt.hackers]

torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:

>In article <BtJzvF.6Bx@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> devros@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Devros) writes:
>>Well, Here goes....

>And on two /long/ lines..

>>ObHack: On the local SUN net, format a disk to SunOS and fdmount it. 
>>Copy a shell to it and change permissions to setUID, setGID, and world
>>executable.  Put the disk in a computer with a disk editor that you can
>>name the media type without a boot sector and find your UID on the disk,
>>changing it to a root uid.  Mount it back onto the SUN and execute.  I
>>haven't tried it, but theoretically you would get a setuid-root shell. 

>"Theoretically" - if it indeed works, your sun setup isn't exactly
>secure.  It's pretty easy to disallow suid programs, and I'd assume
>fdmount does exactly that, leaving you as badly off as you were from the
>beginning.  Now if you had made the disk by doing a "cat > /dev/fd0",
>/that/ would be a hack (but it should still not work). 

>Obhack: while debugging some weird VM bugs in the linux code, I used

>	od -x /dev/kmem | less

>to find the problem.  It worked too: it was a stray NULL pointer that
>corrupted the page directory.  Who needs a kernel debugger anyway?

>		Linus
From: arl@cs.hut.fi (Ari Lemmke)
Subject: Re: Benchmarking under Linux (was Re: New 486 Suggestions?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<1992Aug31.180211.24228@news.acns.nwu.edu>
	<1992Aug31.210041.21832@novell.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:17:35 GMT


In article <1992Aug31.210041.21832@novell.com> bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner) writes:
:   I've got a 386/16Mhz w/a tad under 5MB of
:   RAM and it takes me somewhere between 3-4hours to build the kernel.  On
:   my girlfriend's machine, a 486/33 w/8MB RAM, it takes under 10
:   minutes.  I'd like to get an idea of where I could improve
:   performance.

	Marriage would be a solution ... ;-)

	But .. having faster disk, >2 MB swap, more memory (~8MB)
	would make the kernel compile faster.

:   Brendan B. Boerner		Phone: 512/346-8380

	arl
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: david@ods.com (David Engel)
Subject: Re: jump tables and X11 libs
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:07:46 GMT

Peter MacDonald (pmacdona@tadpole.bcsc.gov.bc.ca) wrote:
: Now Interviews,  that is a different story.  It changes a lot.  So
: it should probably use jump tables.  But as I understand it,  jump
: tables handle everything automatically, except global data (normally
: a no-no in s/w engineerring and libs anyways, but like every rule, 
: broken with aplomb).

I haven't looked at Interviews in quite a while, but since it's written
in C++, which encourages data hiding, I would be very disappointed to
find the same level of global data as found in some of the other X libs.

: Belatedly, at this point, I acknowledge the fine work of David Engel
: in developing the jump tables.  If I am off base in the above please 
: feel free to flame me.

Not at all, you are right on target.  BTW, several people, including
H.J., Linus, Eric Youngdale and at least a couple others whose names
I've unfortunately forgotten, contributed valuable ideas used in 
developing the jump tables.  All I had to do was implement them.

David
-- 
David Engel                        Optical Data Systems, Inc.
david@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Subject: RISC approach to OS - Re: GNU kids on the block?
Organization: Fachschaft Informatik, Uni Karlsruhe
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:17:44 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <1992Aug27.135703.9312@crd.ge.com> davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM writes:

>    Here comes that idea again... The first o/s I helped write ran about
>  2/3 of the kernel in user mode, with user programs mapped into the
>  addressing space. Multics was using rings to get some of the same
>  things you get with setuid(), namely a limited set of privileges. GCOS
>  used a multi-threaded kernel (sort of) with multiple processors all
>  scampering around inside waving flags at one another. It even had
>  almost lightweight processes to handle i/o interrupts in user space.
>    That was mid 60's and it's interesting that the idea of monolithic
>  kernel is once again drifting out of vogue. Unfortunately I don't think

While the Linux kernel does its job well, its being monolithic is a
problem since all of the parts are interdependent, and to comprehend
the work of one of them, you have to know the whole system. This may
work for Linux but is unacceptable for bigger systems.

>  the multiserver is right direction, since everything else in computers
>  is headed for less compleity rather than more. Multi-server is the CISC
>  of software, a sort of hypercube of processes rather than processors.
>
>  I'm all in favor of modularity (look at some of my net code), but I am
>  not convinced that this is the best way to get there.

Depends on what you want to achieve. A true distributed system could
transparently allocate resources of different machines to a job.
Whether you want this is another question.

>    I like the Linux RISC-like approach, do only a few things, but very
>  well and very fast. Build the complex functions out of sequences of
>  simple operations. To me this means simple kernel calls and the library
>  providing the complex stuff.

I completely agree, and I wonder why this issue now is raised again by
Linux where this was the design principle of the original UNIX 20
years ago.  And now UNIX is a huge giant with a lot of memory donuts
:-) needed to feed him.

But for this approach you need at least shared libraries to avoid a
large-scale memory waste. And it comes down to the Amiga which has NO
real OS kernel, where ALL is shared libraries. Seems to me one of the
most well-designed OSs that ever existed, but been undervalued mostly
because of hardware and marketing problems :-(
(one of them being hardware dependence...)

>    Don't take this as a rejection of multi-server by me, I'm unconvinced
>  rather than convinced against. Sort of a software agnostic.

Again: Computers are NOT the right place to practice religion. :-)
Better an agnostic than determinedly believing in something that can
possibly be proven wrong. :-)

MfG,
        Olaf
-- 
Olaf Titz - comp.sc.student - Univ of Karlsruhe - s_titz@iravcl.ira.uka.de -
uknf@dkauni2.bitnet - praetorius@irc - +49-721-60439 - did i forget something?
Der gr"une Punkt ist halt genauso sinnvoll wie ne T"UV-Plakette
 auf nem Schrotthaufen. - Thomas Volkmar Worm
From: drmo@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Help Recompiling Linux.
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:25:58 -0500

Is it possible to recompile Linux on a platform other than Linux?
I have a SCSI drive and need to modify the drivers and recompile,
but I can't access my hard drive until I do.  

Any help would be appreciated.
Please E-Mail responses.

Thanks.
Drew Moseley
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Linux history...
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:05:42 GMT

Lars Wirzenius (wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI) wrote:

: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
: >Jan Nicolai Langfeldt (janl@ifi.uio.no) wrote:
: >: He probably knows your favourite linux hostname too, so check that
: >: new kernel source before you start using it! :-)
: >
: >if ((gethostname(host, 32) == 0) && strcmp(host, "klaava"))
: >   panic("Hahaha, Lars!");
: 
: Hah, that won't work.  klaava (and kruuna; they are Finnish for heads
: and tails, as in coins) is the machine I (and Linus himself as well!)
: read news.  They are some Sun machines and belong to the university.

Damn. :)

: Besides, I think you reversed the strcmp test.

You're right.  Well, hey it *was* early for me ... :)

: Also, I think you should give Linus a bit more credit for inventiveness.
: Like, say, 
: 
: 	if (strcmp(host, "haven") == 0)
: 		randomly_corrupt_one_byte_in_buffer_cache();
: 
: Don't insult him with mere panics.  :-)

That would probably just make him mad. :)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston)
Subject: Re: where is libc.2.2.2?!?
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:45:34 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Utah


   I've looked, and looked, but I can't find *any* old copies of libc.2.2.2!
   Until someone re-compiles X and TeX with the new libraries, I need a copy
   of that lib file! :(  Can someone point me in the right direction?

   -Dave
  

Get disk-7 from the SLS dist.  It contains gcc2.2.2, including libc2.2.2

--
--------------------------------------------------------
  Mark Alston        
  c-amb@math.utah.edu
       
       It is not just a riot of blots and blurs and 
      disjointed jottings linked by spurts of speed...
      it only looks as like it as damn it.
       
                          James Joyce, Finnegans Wake
---------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: butler@cs.tulane.edu (Larry Butler)
Subject: Re: Minicom and X?
Keywords: Minicom X Arrowkeys
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:57:16 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-3319]: jupiter

In article <1992Sep2.010519.16997@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@poly2.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>In article <whitney2.715389864@husc10>, whitney2@husc10.harvard.edu (Wayne Whitney) writes:
>|> Hi,

<< Stuff Deleted >>

>|> ---
>|> Wayne Whitney
>|> whitney2@husc.harvard.edu
>
>You just need a good .Xresources or whatever. You can even make xterm work
>like AT console. I will upload mine if I still have it.
>
>H.J.
Upload it to where?

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: com port hanging
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:33:54 GMT

I've noticed of late that after my system has been up for a bit and doing
some UUCP transfers, any further attempts to use the modem fail.  You can
open the port but the modem will not respond.  I believe this may be one
of the reasons my uucico process hangs.  Has anyone else had a problem with
the comm port becoming "frozen", require a power down and then a power up?
(just a regular C-A-D will not do the trick)

-kwh
-- 
Kevin W. Hammond
hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: uemacs
From: system@kryton.UUCP (Scott Beckstead)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 16:04:49 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

michael@gandalf.moria (Michael Haardt) writes:

> In article <3i36PB1w165w@kozmix.hacktic.nl>, sander@kozmix.hacktic.nl (Sander
> > Has anyone ported MicroEMACS 3.11 to Linux yet?
> 
> I didn't port it (if any porting is neccessary at all), but I have sources
> for MicroEmacs 3.11c which compile and work, as well as the manual as a
> postscript file.  I can't remember where I got it from (and I don't use
> it ...), but if anybody is interested I can make it available per ftp.
> 
> Michael

I ported it many moons ago but it is in binary on bix.  There were a few
minor glitches with the unix port as I remember but not very difficult.  


System Administrator Paradox Alley  F&SF BBS and Usenet News/Mail 
805-492-8789  Thousand Oaks, Ca. The Place For Science Fiction and Fantasy
"Spin My Nipple Nuts and Send Me to Alaska!" Kryten, Red Dwarf

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: ftp site for MGR?
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:10:15 GMT

   From: johnm@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (John Montgomery)
   Date: 3 Sep 92 03:00:49 GMT

   Could someone advise me of the ftp site for Linux MGR,
   isn't it in Germany somwhere?  Thanks!

Here you go:

package=MGR
	site=ftp.thp.uni-koeln.de
	remote_dir=/pub/linux/beta/mgr

TSX-11.MIT.EDU automatically mirrors that subdirectly each night, in
the directory:

	~/ftp/pub/linux/packages/MGR

So if you're in the States, you should probably get MGR from TSX-11 if
you want to save some network bandwidth to Europe.


							- Ted
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: File Managers for X
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 04:22:20 GMT

In article <4951@sumax.seattleu.edu> khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu (Little Kenny Hamer) writes:
>I am new to the wonders of X and unix, and therefore know little about the
>X servers available in the world.  I have sort of found useful things by
>trial and error, but one item eludes me...
>
>I would like a File Manager, something that will display the directory
>trees and files on my filesystem.  Does such an item exist for X?  If so,
>what is it called and how do I get it?
>
>Thanks,  KEN

If you have a fast CPU and lots of RAM, get xdtm.

H.J.