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From: rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Some notes from the Satanic Bible
Date: 14 Aug 92 06:18:55 GMT
Organization: Doc Porter's Thrills Show

In <1992Aug13.145045.25847@cs.mun.ca> brian@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet) writes:

>"Ask any repeat rapist if he has a compultion???
>ooookkkkaaayyyy
>Sure ask any jew if he is Jewish, see every one is jewish..


This is a completely innacurate quote of my article.

>and the results will be different.
>[I know the point you were making just you had a funny way 
>of putting it.


You have an even funnier way.


>Maybe rapists find nothing wrong with it, like it
>and think they won't get caught 
>[I donno, maybe]
>How many people [due to Xian restritions] would
>like to rape and don't...

Is that, 'would like to rape due to xian restrictions, or
would like to but don't *because* of xian restrictions?


>Then again it aint rape, it's interpersonal assertiveness

Sure it is. We were only saying that sex wasn't what motivated it,
but it certainly still is RAPE.

>Hey why cna't rapists define their own term....
>who cares about others..

>Wow 2 spelling and one typo mistake...
>cool I am improving:)

I count two spelling and four instances of either incorect usage or
missing punctuation.

-R


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From: dart@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: When I die?
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:54:24 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <714056921.560000.D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU> D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby) writes:
>should simply be allowed to take its course. , i.e. survival of the
>fittest. 
>
>    When Boyd Rice, a satanist and musician, was asked the question,
>"The way of all flesh OII suppose." meaning that he doesn't believe
>inb  an immortal soul. Man is an animal. Do animals have immortal 
>we tend to push thing     imagine these things. We try to impose meaning on a 
>in the Judeo-Christian God. Many Christians , sadly, say their lives
>     L Lux,

	Off the subject, but upon logging in, try this: stty erase <backspace>
<return>


					D
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From: henderso@netcom.com (Mark Henderson)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 05:32:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom

In article <1992Aug21.220735.28047@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>A quick nslookup shows no west.darkside.com known by BIND.
It does have an mx record though, so it is possible that 
the electronic mail address is a valid one. Of course, this 
doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't a forgery, either.

netcom|../henderso> /usr/etc/nslookup
Default Server:  mork.netcom.com
Address:  192.100.81.105

> set nodefname
> set querytype=mx
> west.darkside.com
Server:  mork.netcom.com
Address:  192.100.81.105

Non-authoritative answer:
west.darkside.com       preference = 20, mail exchanger = apple.com
west.darkside.com       preference = 40, mail exchanger = ucdavis.ucdavis.edu
Authoritative answers can be found from:
apple.com       inet address = 130.43.2.2
ucdavis.ucdavis.edu     inet address = 128.120.2.1
AGGIE.UCDAVIS.EDU       inet address = 128.120.2.9
PUN.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU  inet address = 128.146.56.1
-- 
Mark Henderson, +1 604 585 8394, henderso@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: brian@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet)
Subject: Re: Laveyians
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:57:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.195751.1312@ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.033743.13166@cs.mun.ca> brian@odie.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet) writes:
>>Instead of satanists how about Laveyians??
>
>Gee Bri- I thought it was you who was concerned with PC doublespeak; this is
>MUCH less offensive to those poor xtians. We wouldn't want to OFFEND or SCARE
>anybody now....
>
Sorry, how about Laveyians who think Xains are fucking idiots..
LXFI's  yeah, much more offencive..

On a more serious note, the idea isn't to avoid offending someone.
Hell all if ya reaaallly want to offend people, call yourselves
child molesting cute bunny killing satanists, Yeah!.

BTW I am reminded of somehting I read in national Lampoon
years ago, whenever fundies go to your door.
Here is something to try, [this might be different from 
the original] pretend you like what they are saying, waste
several hours of their time, then excuse yourself, go to the ba
bathroom, strip to the nude and run out holding/rubbing whatever
parts you deem suitable yelling SATAN SATAN and grunt like a pig.

To quote form alt.tasteless

GL! GL! GL! GL! GL! GL! GL!

>
From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Good Shamanism reference?
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:59:01 GMT
Distribution: alt.satanism
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <Bt8JFI.612@world.std.com> jwi@world.std.com (Jazzman) writes:
>
>   I'm looking for a good reference from which I can learn more about
>Shamanism.  Ideally, this reference would also be a manual for someone

Scott babbles his not-so-humble opinion on Shamanism;

 Most of the shamanic stuff I have read (supposedly) derives from N American
shamanic paths, the Siberian, African & S American stuff is just as valid.
One problem I have with all this stuff is that it doesn't take into account
all the modern day things, that is to say, in the old days the Shaman used
power animals; things common to him and his enviornment, today we should find
ways to utilize things common to us and our envoirnment; i.e. technology
social forces etc. William Gibson in his short story Shaman, gives a picture
of what I think the modern shaman should be like, using high technology
and old shamanic ways...
Instead of the standard New-Age/Native American pap W.G.'s Shaman uses modern
archetypes: BUZZ (giver of highs)
            BUST (big cop in the sky) etc...

-Scott
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From: bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Organization: National Oceanic & Atmospheric Adminstration / Boulder Labs
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:31:51 GMT

In article <FeosPB2w176w@west.darkside.com> safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes:
>Jesus Saves

I feel moved to make a Christian prayer for the first time in a decade,
keeping a promise I made _my_ god the last time this happened.

Oh Lord, please honor Your humble servant as he has honored You
by bearing false witness while spreading Your message.

Amen.


'safecrac@west.darkside.com' is a pseudonym.  Chris Colvin may or may
not be, but God knows.  See you in Hell, 'Chris.'


Bear Giles
bear@fsl.noaa.gov

(ps, I don't think fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov will answer a finger.  If you
want to know if _I_ exist, finger bear@tigger.colorado.edu or 
bear@kestrel.fsl.noaa.gov).
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Invoking stronger demons
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:17:22 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <BstJEu.J2L@world.std.com> jwi@world.std.com (Jazzman) writes:
>As a new initiate to satanism I am in search of some advice.  I have practiced
>several rituals from LaVey's Satanic Bible and Satanic Rituals (rite of
>baptism, lust, etc.).  While I feel a strength slowing growing within me, I
>am becoming increasingly impatient (is not patience for meek x-tians?).
>
 	Ok, try reading it again.  These demons are cool and all, but purely
fictional, as is god and satan.  If the rituals make you happy, more power
to you, but they are quite unnecessary.

>My question is this: how can invoke more stronger demons into my heart.
>Humourously, whenever I ask the question to individuals on IRC (who
>inevitably turn out to be wiccans), they say "oooh, don't do it!  You'll
>lose control.  You'll be destroyed"   Ahhhh, BS! is my reply.  Just tell
>me what I must do to get on the fastest roller coaster to hell and leave
>the worrying up to me!
>
>So, I'm asking for suggestions.  I want more possession.  I want to be
>consumed by the demons.  It is with them that I shall find satisfaction.
>Tell me how.

	Well, what do you want to accomplish?  Why can't you just go out and
do it?  Why do you need assistance from "demons"?

>    -John
>    (jwi@world.std.com)

	Raymond H. Rich
	Invoke Me!  Invoke Me!
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: brian@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet)
Subject: Re: Some notes from the Satanic Bible
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:50:45 GMT

"Ask any repeat rapist if he has a compultion???
ooookkkkaaayyyy
Sure ask any jew if he is Jewish, see every one is jewish..

Ask any one time rapist the same question...
and the results will be different.
[I know the point you were making just you had a funny way 
of putting it.

Maybe rapists find nothing wrong with it, like it
and think they won't get caught 
[I donno, maybe]
How many people [due to Xian restritions] would
like to rape and don't...

Then again it aint rape, it's interpersonal assertiveness

Hey why cna't rapists define their own term....
who cares about others..

Wow 2 spelling and one typo mistake...
cool I am improving:)

I FLEX IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!!! :)
VOLCANO
From: D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Lavey et al
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:36:10 GMT



  I remember hearing some place that LaVey began his shtick doing
'satanic' strip shows. Heh... I've heard he's always been quite
the show man. Did he do the stripping or just organize them?
It's no surprise really, the whole Satanism thing, considering one
of his heroes is P.T. Barnum. He has to be sitting in his home
in SF (or wherever) and laughing heartily. I haven't read the
Satanic Bible myself, but have heard it's laughable. With things
like the 'Invocation to Lust,' which I've heard is ridiculous.
Maybe LaVey fancies himself the new P.T. Barnum. LaVey must love
L. Ron Hubbard. I'll pick up a used copy of the Satanic Bible myself
and check it out for myself sometime. I certainly wouldn't buy it
new and add to LaVey's fortune. Maybe that's the high teaching
of satanism that only LaVey himself knows, "There's a sucker born
every minute," although I've heard satanists using that quote.
So there are nested levels of knowledge perhaps. Perhaps... It's
fun to speculate. I find all of this terribly amusing. 

  Where can I learn more about it? I'd like to read some books
debunking satanists (not written by Christians please...) and
books by 'true believers.' Can anyone recommend some?

     Lux,

       Dana
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN)
Subject: Re: Laveyians
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 18:41:05 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug15.033743.13166@cs.mun.ca> brian@odie.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet) writes:
>Let me bounce an idea off ya.
>Instead of satanists how about Laveyians??

No.

>The common useage of Satanist, right or wrong
>is those who worship Satan [As far as I can see]


>It seems you define your beliefs with Laveys
>book

Bull- I defined my beliefs long before I read LaVey's book; the book just
gives me something I can point to and say,"thats my general philosophy in life"

>and Ayn randians, why not Laveyians.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^
I HOPE you are referring to "objectivists"- those who follow the philosophy
of Ayn Rand. I have met some randy Ayns however (much preferred to objectivist
company)

>what do ya think about this one.
>May your good jib draw
>Volcano
>well??

WHAT?

-Scott



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From: jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:51:10 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <FeosPB2w176w@west.darkside.com> safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes:
>Jesus Saves

Only in S & L 's.

Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: timf@microsoft.com (Tim Fleehart)
Subject: Re: I'd sell my soul for ....
Date: 11 Aug 92 15:56:36 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <BsH0Mw.LB@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:
>Tell ya what I'm gonna do, I am gonna offer myu soul to the highest
>bidder. Jesus freaks, here is your chance to score a big one with Him,
>bring me back into the fold for mere cash. OR, how about the
>satanists? I imagine that they don't wanna win me for Satan sinc they
>don't believe in satan, right? Or at least, the xian satan...but, hey,
>a soul is a soul.

I bid $1.
From: dart@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: I'd sell my soul for ....
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:46:11 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <BsGvKI.KtC@ecf.toronto.edu> ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice) writes:
>Say the 'devil' :-) came up to you with an offer. What would you
>want for your soul.
>
>Matthew

	I realize this MUST be just a joke, but I think I will respond.
In the immortal words of rattail grenadier:  I wan't satan to go down on me.
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From: tagg@hg.uleth.ca (Nathaniel Tagg)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Reply-To: tagg@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:53:29 GMT

In article <a-_ngw-.ekman@netcom.com>, ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear) writes:
>In article <FeosPB2w176w@west.darkside.com> safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes:
>>Jesus Saves
>
>Moses invests.

  Jesus Saves, but Gretzky gets the rebound! He shoots! He scores!


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From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:55:25 GMT

safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes:

>Jesus Saves

Gretzky gets the rebound...he shoots, he SCOOORRREEESS!

 -Steve
--
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From: crys@ucsd.edu (Crys Harris)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: What does it all mean?
Date: 12 Aug 1992 22:00:54 GMT
Organization: Network Operations, UCSD
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: whisper.ucsd.edu

In article <16901vINNamd@satan.ucsd.edu>, andy@satan.ucsd.edu ({Vigor Mortis}) writes:
> [Stuff read but deleted in interest of time]
> They just used the original, christian supplied
> meaning. Meanwhile, satanists would probably prefer to supply a definition less
> tainted by christian beliefs.

   I believe this is what I was requested a few days ago when I posted to this 
   newsgroup and all I got for my trouble was a host of flames waiting for me
		 in my mail box the next day.  What would satanists like to venture forth
   as an adequate definition of satanism?  How is it different from anti-
   Christianity?  What roles do satan, magick, personal powers, and disaffection
   with Christianity play in these beliefs?  What are the guidelines, beliefs,
   rules, goals, desires of the satanist?  What role does the media play, in
   your opinions, in the public's negative interpretation of satanists.  How
   true is all of that?  Is the objective of satanism, in general, to be, or
   appear negative?  There are questions that I am curious about, but I would
   like to hear the answers from real people rather than some dated book, or 
   some crazed, wild-eyed zealot, be they Christian or Satanist.

-Crys


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From: spaz@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Trebor Strunderthuck)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:54:38 GMT

In article <21AUG199214024211@rosie.uh.edu> st1lv@rosie.uh.edu (McLeod, Stephen) writes:
>In article <FeosPB2w176w@west.darkside.com>, safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes...
>>Jesus Saves
This is a test...only a frickin' test....if this were a real emergency...I would
have told you that by now......(I'm having a problem with my posts getting thru)
If you haven't noticed, I've had a few posts recently that just come up only
showing my address. 

Thank you. (I hope this works!!)


-- 
-------------<<The Husky Cub>>---------------
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<<        We Will, We Will Rock You        >>
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From: 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Survey II
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:52:36 GMT

I asked:

1. Where would you go after you die?  (in the ground is not a valid
answer)

Many asked, "Why is 'in the ground' not a valid answer?"  Because I wrote
the rules :-).  No, not really.  The purpose was to get folks to think why
they would answer, "In the ground," and expand on their answer.  It
worked.  Bottom line, a lot of readers here don't believe in an
afterlife.  That's their choice.  Question: What is life?  Is it energy
of some sort? It must be.  It would take some type of energy for our
bodies to move, give off heat, make our brain have feelings, etc.  If not
energy, then what?  Once this body wears out, or someone plugs it full of
lead, or an individual OD's, what happens to this life energy?  If energy
can't be created or destroyed, then something must happen to it.  If that
energy contains your personality in an organized form (sine wave?), what
happens to your personality?

2. If you died tonight, would you go to heaven?  Folks answered anything
from "Heaven is a judeo-christian concept," to "It's a hallucination."

3. If you were at the gate of heaven and God asked, why should I let you
into my heaven?  Many said "Man, I'd be surprised if that happened, why
would I want to enter 'your' heaven anyway?"

What was my agenda?  Just curious.  Trying to save souls?  Nope, just
curious.  Need an ego trip from saving someone from "eternal damnation?"
Nope, just curious.  Someone even suggested I get my power trip from
somewhere else.  Don't need a power trip, too much responsibility.  Being
a commoner is hard enough.

Anyone interested in expanding on these matters a little further, keep it
on the discussion group.  I won't be checking Compuserve for awhile.

Caio!

CC


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From: jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY))
Newsgroups: alt.satanism,alt.atheism,soc.motss,sci.physics,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.newage,alt.pagan,alt.sex,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Subject?
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:24:59 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <FeosPB2w176w@west.darkside.com> safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes:
>Jesus Saves

Gretzgy Steals, He shoots, He SCORES!
From: D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: ...
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:06:03 GMT


Reuben-

  Asking for books debunking satanism on this list dumb? Far from it.
You presuppose there's not a single person on this list who is
anti-satanism? Or curiosity seekers? etc? I plan to join the 
scientology newsgroup, and I am far from pro-scientology.
It all amuses me greatly. I sometimes frequent places where opinions
contrary to my own abound. Something you might want to try, if only
for your own amusement. I enjoy being the voice of dissent from time
to time. Funny you'd say it was stupid, coming from a satanist.
Interesting that a fundamentalist christian might take the same
form of reasoning. heh... Yes Reuben, there's a conspiracy on
every corner. This newsgroup, most likely, is not 100% satanicly
pure as you may expect. Chill out.

  To the surveyer: law of conservation of matter and energy? Sure.
The atoms that make up my body will most likely last forever (or
the particles atoms are made of). Lucretius said this many moons
ago in De Rerum Natura - The Nature of Things. He believed that the
'soul' or animating force was composed of atoms. When the body dies,
all of it's atoms dissipate. He taught people not to fear some
supernatural afterlife, wrath of gods, etc... It's intere 

 As far as the soul/personality existing after death, your belief
is highly contrary to the findings of psychology/neuroscience.
The personality and its qualities are highly dependent on physical
variables/the state of the brain. A good book for you, if you're
interested, is "The Illusion of Immortality" by Corliss Lamont.
Check it out. Even if it doesn't win you over, it's still good
intellectual exercise.

     Pax,

      Dana
From: safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Subject?
Date: 20 Aug 92 07:38:14 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

Jesus Saves
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From: cweiss@ccu.umanitoba.ca (christopher gene weiss)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:53:41 GMT

In article <a-_ngw-.ekman@netcom.com> ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear) writes:
>In article <FeosPB2w176w@west.darkside.com> safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes:
>>Jesus Saves
>
>Moses invests.
>-- 
>Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear              ekman@netcom.com
>Home for the Terminally Infirm, Redwood City, California

Jesus saves!
Moses invests.
But only Buddha pays dividends...

Hope y'all like... :)

| I read too much,
| I said we should kill ourselves,
| She doesn't read a thing,
| She believed me,
| Are you really the Messiah?
| Yes, I am... -- Highway Girl
|   (live version) Tragically Hip.