From: tai@starbird.WPI.EDU (Lisa Taikitsadaporn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: low class
Date: 11 Oct 1992 05:53:43 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <92284.171833U25256@uicvm.uic.edu> <U25256@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>Date: 10 October 1992 16:58:50 CDT
>From: <U25256@UICVM>
>To:          godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
>In-Reply-To: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:07:00 GMT
>Subject:     Re: Re: low class
>
>Now you're talking shit about the U.S. If money does not classify classes
>in Brit. then what does. From what I understand, 1) England is another
>Beirut (what causing it??????). 2) And if there's no corruption or bribe
>in England then you should go see this movie about YOUR Royal family
>which was aired on CBS or NBC, just a couple weeks ago. And you probably
>won't be able to see this movie in your country (and I wonder why??)
>
>> In article <LEVIS.92Oct5085505@mohr.iesd.auc.dk>, levis@iesd.auc.dk (Tommy Lar
>>>In article <1OCT199216562454@sscvx1.ssc.gov> godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE
>>>
>>>>>    Money is not a mean for judging everything.
>>>
>>>>  In England too, low class has nothing to do with money, and has to do wit
>>>>  what the English like to call "breeding".  It is only in the US that clas
>>>>  and money are interchangeable words.
>>>
>>>>   Laurence

		Money should not be a means for judging a person.  
	Unfortunately, it is part of the definition when social classes 
	are defined (see below).  The US is not the only country where 
	the wealth of a person defines a person's social status.


>>>From how I understand the word breeding, Prince Charles' Diana isn't
>>>upper class, but still she is royal.  Can this be so, or did I
>>>misunderstand you.  If I didn't, then I'd say that in England too,
>>>money is a measure of class.
>>>
>>>- Tommy
>>>                  Tommy Larsen, Sonjavej 58, 9000 Aalborg, Denmark.
>>>
>>>                                 levis@iesd.auc.dk
>>
>> I'm afraid you do misunderstand.  Firstly, Diana most certainly is upper
>> class, having come from a family of aristocrats.  Secondly, while
>> explaining the traditional English concept of class, I didn't mean
>> to imply that I sanctioned that kind of snobishness.  Class in England
>> does not have to do with money, as I said it has to do with breeding, and
>> breeding depends on things like where you went to school, where your father
>> went to school, the important people you and he went to school with etc.
>> Certainly having money helps, but it is not a requirement
>>
>> L

		Here's some definitions I looked up in my Random House 
	Webster's College Dictionary (1991).

	lower class:  a class of people below the middle class in social
		standing and generally characterized by low income and
		lack of education

	middle class:  a class of people intermediate between those of 
		higher and lower economic or social standing, generally
		characterized by average income and education, conventional
		values, and conservative attitude.  the class traditionally
		intermediated between the artistocracy and the working class

	upper class:  a class of people above the middle class, characterised
		by wealth and social prestige

	Since Mr. Laurence and the definition in "middle class" made 
references to the word "aristocracy" and "aristocrat" here's the definition.

	aristocracy:  a class of persons holding exceptional rank and 
		privileges, esp. the hereditary nobility.  any class or
		group regarded as superior because of education, ability,
		or wealth.

	aristocrat:  a member of the governing aristocray; a hereditary noble;
		a person of superior achievement



My $0.02 worth.

L. Taikitsadaporn