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From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Looking for Chris Schmidt
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:04:31 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

Sorry to post here, but...

Looking for Chris Schmidt (old net address was cs@walhalla.informatik.
uni-dortmund.de).

Cheers,

Chris

p.s.  How 'bout that Atari stock price, eh?  (couldn't resist) :-)
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PERFPICH.TOS v1.1 posted to a.a
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:20:51 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

In <95283@bu.edu> selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick) writes:

>I just uploaded my PERFPICH.TOS v1.1 to atari.archive.umich.edu in the
>/atari/new directory. It is a few minor bug fixes to the old 1.0
>program, recompiled with GFA 3.5E. It's a self-extracting archive made
>with the stzip20.tos program that was just uploaded.


PLEASE.  If you upload anything to atari.archive, post a DESCRIPTION of
it here, not just "I uploaded X".  What the hell is "PERFPICH.TOS"?

Especially when is is a (yuck) self-extracting archive - since people have
to transfer it all the way home before being able to read any README or .doc
files in the archive (whereas others can be downloaded to the host, and
examined there).


Thanks all,
Warwick
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From: joeadato@tcpbbs.pcn.org (Joseph Adato)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: SLM804
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 12:13:22 EDT
Organization: TCP BBS, Cleveland, Ohio

riegel@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Riegel) writes:

> 
>    I recently acquired a used Atari SLM804 laser printer without any manuals
> or software drivers.  Does anyone know where I could get them?  Thanks,
> 
> -Jeff Riegel
> riegel@almaden.ibm.com

I know this will sound as a very silly question, but I'm going to ask it
anyway.......Have you tried to call Atari Corp. in Sunnyvale CA.???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: oyakea@vccsouth04.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake)
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:05:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.124510.2938@aber.ac.uk> hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:
>Having now seen the Falcon at first hand (ie at the show) I was a bit
>disappointed at the graphics. The 640x480 at 256 colour appeared to
>be quite stable, almost as good as mono on an SM124. The higher colour
>modes however, weren't very good and a number of the monitors showed
>flicker which is a shame. But I guess with 640x480 2356 colour at least
>we're now up to Mac and PC standard. The sound system was very good
>though, the sound coming from the>Falcon was as good as a CD.
 I don't agree with Mr. Martin in his first statement. 1) The falcon is not a   a high end business system, so you can't expect it to be pure state of the art.  It lacks serios internal expansion such as VME, not to diss what it has for internal expansion.2) For features it rivals NOTE!! The latest Apple Lc and surpasses it in features by a longshot. It's rivals are the Mac Classic II and    386 Sx's.It beats the Classic in price,features and performance and beats the
SX's in sound,I/O,price, and frames/sec but not in video resolution. 

>I guess everyone knows that the GEM interface has gone '3-D', i.e 3D borders
>on windows and 3D buttons just like Windows.
>I did notice some other companies showing what I think was MultiTOS
  Just a bunch of other things that are/were long overdue. I must also add my own comments. The ST line are great bunch of systems but are destined to failure if Atari does not advertise over some major channel (e.g. MTV) or do some major promo. America does not know about the great American ST.
>And Atari didn't show any STEs.
So what's new, would you show a system that HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BECOMING A DOG
NOTE a) the Falcon 040 is going to be a souped up TT + 040+ Falcon features.
b) Atari is yet to scr*w up it's users again so don't be hasty to crave for a
Falcon. And don't expect superior Pc emulation or 386+387 combination, remember the ABAQ, cp/m for 8-bit, TT unix ( not yet released), and the STT no dealer in the U.S. knows what it is and what means to a local harry.
c) Pray for a multiprocessing feature on the Falcon040 e.g. (68000+486 with VMe
+ EISA), also realise the Falcon has no external floppy port ( as noted in the sept issue of Atari advantage). Commodore is going to see hell (A600 and A500 are well behind the times sorry to say
from Rensselaer Poly NY. Please  also send info on all ST ftp addresses and somexplanation on WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PARSEC GRAPHIC INTERFACE.

AMAL THE ACE
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: JAGUAR - graphics, could it be?
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:55:23 GMT
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)



Hmmm... I think we have discovered how the Jaguar will pass the
graphics of SNES and Genesis.  It will most likely used interlace
since it can be displayed on a television.

Video Gaming should be pretty exciting in the future where
Atari products are concerned.

Len

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From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:10:19 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <2A9C93FB.14833@orion.oac.uci.edu> jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu
(Joachim Vance) writes:
>hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:
>>I guess everyone knows that the GEM interface has gone '3-D', i.e 3D borders
>>on windows and 3D buttons just like Windows. 
>  That's a new one to me.  I was wondering when Atari would finally
>update the "look" of the interface to make GEM more modern looking.

It would be nice if the Atari desktop could also have multi-coloured icons
like W*nd*ws has. I was trying to think of a way it could be bolted on to
the exiting GEM interface but no clean solutions came to mind.
You'd think we'd be happy with 3D but no. :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Timeworks DTP - New Fonts?
From: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Craig Shore)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:43:02 GMT
Reply-To: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
 <1992Aug25.084006.29119@hasler.ascom.ch> <1992Aug26.201915.29917@cc.ic.ac.uk>,<1992Aug27.161043@aifh.ed.ac.uk>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Aug27.161043@aifh.ed.ac.uk>, samm@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Sam Marshall) writes:

>You're right about fontwid.app. Note that you also need to list all of the 
>new fonts in the assign.sys files in ASCENDING order of their identity
>numbers,
>and that all ID numbers must be under 128. You can change the ID # with
>most font editing packs (e.g. the ST Club's Fontkit). There's a doc on
>atari.archive giving lots of info on the mysterious assign.sys file and GDOS,
>I think.

Thanks Sam,  anyone got any ideas on the name and dir of this file?
 (I must d/l the index sometime :-)  )

 Craig.

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From: jliukkon@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juha-Matti Liukkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: AT-Speed and Windows 3.1? (2nd try)
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:27:33 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <1992Sep1.233319.10304@athena.cs.uga.edu> kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:

>I thought Windows 3.1 required at least a '386 to run?  The AT-Speed C16
>*IS* only a 16MHz '286, right?  Maybe that's the problem.  Only Windows
>2.x will work on a '286, I believe.

>Steve

Windows 3.1 works OK with a 286, though only in standard mode (surprise :)
-- 
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       University of Helsinki, Dept. of Paranormal Investigations
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: tries@obelix.kph.uni-mainz.de (Volker Tries)
Subject: TOS 1.02 -> TOS 1.04 Upgrade
Organization: Institute for Nuclear Physics, Uni Mainz, FRG
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:04:27 GMT

Hi,
I have an old MEGA ST2  running under TOS 1.02 ( into 2 Chips in the ROM-Bank).
I've the The TOS 1.04 (Rainbow-TOS) in 6 256k-EPROMs too. I've soldered 4 new sockets 
into the ROM bank. But I'm hunting for the solder-bridges to tell Glue and MMU the
new ROM configuration (6 IC's instead of 2).
I found 2 of them, both arround the blitter chip.

My hardware looks like this:



--------------------------------------------------------
|								|
|								|
|								|
|  |-----|							|
|  |Blitter  |	X			|------|		|
|  |	   |	X			|Glue	|		|
|  |-----|	    Expansion Port	|	|		|
|        XX		================	|------|		|
|		----------------				|
|		|	CPU	   |				|
|		|		   |				|
|		----------------				|
|								|
|								|
|								|
|		---------------------			|
|		|			|			|
|		|	ROM		|			|
|		|	Bank		|	RAMs		|
|		|			|			|
|		|			|			|
|		|			|			|
|		----------------------			|
|								|
|								|
|		|-----|					|
|		|MMU  |					|
|		|            |					|
|		|-----|					|
--------------------------------------------------------

I found the two solder Bridges at the locations marked with 'XX'.

Waiting for help



Volker Tries

Tries@server.physik.uni-giessen.de
Tries@obelix.kph.uni-mainz.de
Tries@v3200a.ee.uni-sb.de
From: sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 520ST always boots twice: help!
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:18:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kebfF7K00awJA9Gkhx
	<2468PB3w164w@tcpbbs.pcn.org>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 28-Aug-92 Re: 520ST always
boots twic.. Joseph Adato@tcpbbs.pcn. (464)

> qb7g6@fel.tno.nl (Maarten Landzaat) writes:

> I have never heard of any ST being able to have 3Mb of Ram.  I know a 520
> can have 2.5Mb of RAM.  But 3Mb a RAM is a new one for me.  If this comment
> is not a typo, could you let us know how it's done?

> I'm not trying to be funny or insulting.  I've really and truely never 
> heard of the ability to upgrade a 520ST to 3 Megs.


Well, 3MB STs are a bit tricky:
the 1st bank is a normal 2MB bank.
but the 2nd is treated specially: the two higher address bits (which are
multiplexed on 1 address line) are used to select one of 4 512K bank.
In fact, you fake a 2MB bank and fill it with 1,2,3 or 4 512K banks !
with 2 512K banks you've got 3MB RAM.

For the hardware, no problem: as soon as the bank respond after the 1st 512K,
it is assumed to be 2MB.
And for the software, no problems either: the TOS don't use the hardware 
info to detect RAM size. Rather it checks linearly the RAM space until it
finds a fault which is recognized to be the memtop point !

For it you just need the RAM, 2 flip-flops and a few gates !
Notice, that very slow RAMs (150ns) may not work with this trick cause it
introduces a slight delay in RAM control signals ! Anyway, with nowadays
RAM prices, it is rarely intersting: just go to 4MB !

	Stefan Monnier



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: gbcusg@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (I. Barnett)
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:32:53 GMT

In your post, you say that the latest Mac LC (the LCII) is better that the
Falcon.  Where do you get this from?  The LCII is a 16 Mhz '030 : tie.  It will
support 16-bit graphics but only up to a 13" monitor...for mor color/resolution
you need a graphics card.  The Falcon's sound just kill the LCII.  The LCII is
in direct comptetion with the Falcon, not the Classic II, plus the Falcon is
cheaper.  The only thing that the LCII has is a superior O/S but TOS is
getting better.

Darren King, GBC :: emai : gbcusg@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: seimet@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Uwe Seimet)
Subject: Re: TT Compatability questions
Keywords: TT, ST, compatible, games, applications
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Distribution: eunet
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:09:21 GMT

mack@deci.cs.umn.edu (Dan Mack) writes:

>2.  Does Calamus and other word processing packages work?
Yes, Calamus does. Software that is programmed cleanly always works.

>4.  Is there a Unix like OS  for the TT?  If so, has anyone gotton X11
>    R4 or X11 R5 to compile on a TT?
Yes, Atari sells System VR4 for the TT.

>6.  If you own a TT, what are your impressions of the machine?
I like it. :-)

>7.  Which version of the Atari OS do the TTs run?  2.?? 3.??
3.06 is the latest.

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*        seimet@chemie.uni-kl.de      *
*-------------------------------------*
* I really hate this damned machine,  *
*     I wish that they would sell it. *
* It never does that what I mean      *
*     but only what I tell it.        *
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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ding dong.. who's there ? Dr who..
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:04:52 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1992Aug25.123435.2775@prl.dec.com> amos@prl.dec.com (Samos) writes:

>Who will go on Falcon ?

>No amiga users ...
>No PC users...
>Neither archimede users nor Next nor Mac users...
>So, Atari users ? Yes, and even not all...


Is this guy for real?  Does he think everyone in the world already owns
a computer and so it is a competition between the various computer camps?


Get real.


Companies survive by creating NEW customers - not by dragging customers from
other vendors.

I don't see why a new-computer buyer would avoid the Falcon - or any Atari
products.  Certainly a PC is useless to the new user - way to difficult to
operate (it's okay for us to say "Oh, just press return", but take a look
at the average new-user - I have, and they HATE IBM PC's).  Apple computers
are great for new users - but $$$'s are always on the new-buyers mind, since
that is about the only thing they are familiar with that they can compare
(Computer A is cheaper than computer C, so buy A).

"Power without the Price" is good.

--
Warwick
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From: gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu (Geoffrey Spear)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ST ftp sites
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:22:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.seaifRK00aw_487UoM
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


	Please excuse the question, as I'm sure it's been answered at least 5
million times before, but I'm new to the net, and I'm looking for a list
of ftp sites with ST files, preferably those with anonymous logins
allowed.  The only one I know about now is atari.archive.umich.edu,
which is a great server, but I'd like to find some more.
From: delabarr@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Bryon C DeLaBarre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ATARI ST (fm) w/one meg FOR SALE
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:07:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


For sale :

  ATARI 520STFM with memory expanded up to one meg.
    - Extra memory put in with sockets...for future upgrade.
    - Internal DSDD disk drive.
    - Bought new in 1990...only owner...low mileage.
    - Most software for a dollar a disk w/purchase of system
      - around 250 disks.


  -->  Selling compuetr only.
  -->  Reply with E-mail only, please...I am not likely to check this board
       regularly.
  -->  I'm not looking for a fortune, make me an offer!


	--> Bryon DeLaBarre
	  --> delabarr@en.ecn.purdue.edu
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Thursday, 27 Aug 1992 09:57:45 CET
From: <PMEEKIN@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,
Subject:    Help! I'm totally GNUless

I've been scanning the GNU and NEWS.ANSWERS newsgroups for some time now to
get the address of the Free Software Foundation so that I can get hold of GNU
but so far without success. Can someone Email their address please?
Unfortunately I can't use FTP from here.

Thanks in advance.

Paul Meekin
ESA Operations Centre
Darmstadt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mike Stramba <stramba@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: max baudrate?
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:28:05 GMT

>
>(I just deleted as they were worse than Uniterm), but I have not had a 
>try at Freeze Dried.  Does it support VT220?  BTW, XYZ2.01 works fine with

I'm not sure about VT220 (what is used on ? mainframes?)

It does support 'ibm ansi', 'vt52' and a couple of others.

>Uniterm, but not with Connect and the author is not familiar with XYZ.  Has
>anyone successfully gotten Connect to work with XYZ?  If so, what version/
>setup do you have?  If no one uses XYZ, what Zmodem external program do you
>use?  He suggested Zmodem by (I forget authors name just now).

I tried xzy 2.01, and it seemed fine. I uploaded and dl'd in zmodem no prob.


>	Yes, I have the English version of the Connect - actually very easy
>to Englishify it by renaming conneng.rsc to connect.rsc.  However, the 
>manual is not so easily changed. :(.  Wolfgang (the author) said that someone
>in Canada is supposedly working on an English manual, but hasn't gotten word
>back from them yet....

I have that version as well. I know about the .rsc file, it's the docs I
thought I heard were in English. You could always try ger2eng, I haven't
tried it recently, it's not perfect, but has been useful to me with other
german programs/docs I have tried.

>
>	The only real peeve I have now is the slow updating, but Wolfgang says
>that NVDI (and I would imagine Warp9) should fix that, as well as giving
>access to more screen fonts.  We'll see. :)
>

Again, Freeze Dried has the fastest Ansi emulation I have tried so far.

Wolfgang, the Connect author also suggested that I have gdos or Nvdi or
something like that. I don't have either at the moment.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: seimet@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Uwe Seimet)
Subject: Re: Falcon's DSP (again)
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Distribution: eunet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:12:53 GMT

kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:

>In article <1992Aug31.134858.13698@hsr.no> leikvoll@hsr.no (Morten Leikvoll) writes:
>>Will the DSP have access to the main memory???
>>If not....terrible
>>If yes....where can I buy this thing NOW!
>>
>>Morten Leikvoll / leikvoll@hsr.no

>Yes, virtually everything has direct access to main memory, including the
>DSP, BLiTTER, SCSI-II port, and more.
Wrong! The DSP has no direct access to main memory. Data are transferred via
a parallel bus at a maximum speed of 1 MB/s.

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*        Uwe Seimet                   *
*        seimet@rhrk.uni-kl.de        *
*        seimet@chemie.uni-kl.de      *
*-------------------------------------*
* I really hate this damned machine,  *
*     I wish that they would sell it. *
* It never does that what I mean      *
*     but only what I tell it.        *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mouse Walk
From: Steven.Wells@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:18:06 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange


> (By the way, what is the preferred plural form of 'mouse'?)

'Mice' - as it usually is!
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From: timg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tim Gallivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Postscript to Image ???
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:23:50 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Center for Relativity

Hi,

I couldn't recheck the original article, but I think the poster requested
something to convert PostScript to some image format. A couple of people
responded:

In article <1992Aug28.123609.23865@its.bt.co.uk> jvt@its.bt.co.uk (John Trickey) writes:
>option and it was a disaster! I now use PSCAPTURE --- an accessory you
>I've looked it up. it is arati/printing/pscapt.arc on a.a

In article <RALPH.92Sep1191839@orion.laas.fr> ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek) writes:
>I think that Jeff Poskanzer's PBM package does this!

I am not intimately familiar with either of the suggested utilities, but
I am quite certain that both of these programs go the other way, i.e.
image -> postscript. To go from postscript -> image requires a
full-fledged postscript interpreter, like ghostscript or ultrascript or
that other PS interpreter that I have forgotten the name of -- something
more than a utility.

-Tim Gallivan
timg@landau.ph.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: herzling@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Alexander Herzlinger [RHRK])
Subject: Re: Falcon's DSP (again)
Reply-To: herzling@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Alexander Herzlinger [RHRK])
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern (Germany)
Distribution: eunet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:42:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.091253.1944@rhrk.uni-kl.de>, seimet@rhrk.uni-kl.de
(Uwe Seimet) writes:
|>kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:
|>
|>>In article <1992Aug31.134858.13698@hsr.no> leikvoll@hsr.no (Morten
Leikvoll) writes:
|>>>Will the DSP have access to the main memory???
|>>>If not....terrible
|>>>If yes....where can I buy this thing NOW!
|>>>
|>>>Morten Leikvoll / leikvoll@hsr.no
|>
|>>Yes, virtually everything has direct access to main memory, including the
|>>DSP, BLiTTER, SCSI-II port, and more.
|>Wrong! The DSP has no direct access to main memory. Data are transferred via
|>a parallel bus at a maximum speed of 1 MB/s.
|>

I think what Kristopher meant is that the DSP cannot only communicate
via the DSP hostport but also can use the DMA Read/Write Devices. So the
DSP give Data to the DMA device wich put it into main memory. No 030
is involved in that.
 
Bye,
   Alex

--------------------------------------------------------
Alexander Herzlinger
Email: herzling@rhrk.uni-kl.de                       
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: azog@world.std.com (Azog Thoth)
Subject: Re: Bug in TOSWIN (was: Re: MiNT 0.95 now available)
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:28:04 GMT

okes@essex.ac.uk (Oke S) writes:

>|
>| Hmmm. I dont know if I follow this. What your saying is that when a 
>| window is buried, and has a menu bar, your able to access it? Ive tried
>| it on my system (TOS 2.06), and havent gotten it to do that...

>I have. It doesn't seem to matter what else is running, but I find
>that the TOSWIN menus drop down even when the TOSWIN window is completely
>obscured. I'm learning to live with it though.

>Another thing that disappointed me slightly was that TOSWIN crashes on 
>startup if MiNT is not running.

Hmmm again. What is your system configuration? Often, I press the right shift
key to bypass MiNT, and the only thing that TOSWIN complains about is
that it cant get a pty. This is due to TOSWIN.CNF starting up BASH and TOP
automatic upon startup...

Im extremely happy with TOSWIN. But there is a point that I should
state. When I try to start Elvis with a filename, it crashes the system.
But if I start without a filename, and use the internal read command, it
works fine. Nothing that really bothers me, tho

-- 
Billy D'augustine
azog@world.std.com

Atari: Power without the price.