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From: shri@unreal.cs.umass.edu (H.Shrikumar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: "BEEP BEEP ... you told me to remind you" ... from a 95LX ???
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:30:44 GMT
Reply-To: shri@legato.cs.umass.edu (H.Shrikumar)
Organization: UMass, Amherst, MA 01002 + Temporal Sys & Comp Net, Bombay, India


Hi,

   Can the HP95LX act as a reminder/alarm too ?

   It should beep at preset time and date, even when switched
and in my pocket (but close tomy heart :-) ?

   Is this possible ... I am not very familiar with the
stuff that the 95LX comes builtin with ... if it does not
come with this, I guess its close to impossible to write
something to do this (the machine has to be woken up).

   Unless I kludge a timer-switch in parallel with the ON switch to
power it on periodically :-) horror !! Or I'd be expected to 
periodically poll the hp95lx whenever I think I might be
forgetting something. (would I not forget to do that ! :-)

  Q2. Has anyone actually used the fabled free A/D converter ever ?

  Q3. Are there stub-code or programming details for drivers that
      they put on the RAM and ROM cards for the 95LX ?

  Q4. Are there are parallel ports, input or o/p or both,
      hidden in the 95LX ?

-- shrikumar ( shri@legato.cs.umass.edu, shri@iucaa.ernet.in )
From: ma690188@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (R. Mark Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: GRAFI11.ZIP (Corrupt?)
Date: 16 Oct 1992 21:31:44 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ma690188@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (R. Mark Adams)
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu
Originator: ma690188@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


 

>Anthony, you might want to repackage it with PKZIP 1.1 or compatible.

This has been done.  Anthony put a replacement in the distrib/hp95lx/inbound
directory on eddie.mit.edu.  I have successfully unzipped the file with
pkunzip on the first try, so it seems okay.

Thanks to Anthony for the quick response!


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From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: GRAFI11.ZIP (Corrupt?)
Date: 16 Oct 1992 18:44:42 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <4152@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de> herbert@prz.tu-berlin.de (Herbert Almus) writes:
>In article <1bmmd8INNbat@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> ma690188@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu  
>(R. Mark Adams) writes:
>> Has anybody out there managed to get a working copy of GRAFI11.ZIP down 
>I made the same experience. And I downloaded it together with some other  

This is very odd.  I just got grafi11.zip from eddie and unzip works on
it just fine.  Has anyone else had the same problem?  I used unix zip
1.9 to create the archive, I'll see if any MS-DOS unzippers have
problems with it.
--
<-:(= Anthony Stieber	anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu   uwm!uwmcsd4!anthony
From: rgoseweh@digi.lonestar.org (Roy Gosewehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Portfolio News
Summary: New Peripherals incl 4Mb card
Keywords: Atari, Portfolio, peripherals
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:05:15 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

For Your Information - The following news items are being repeated from
the October '92 issue of ST Informer (quoted without permission).  (This
is all there is, don't ask me for more details.)  Also, please excuse
any typos - I didn't want to spend all day doing this. :-)

- New 1,2 and 4 meg Flash Memory Cards from Optrol Inc. fit entirely
inside the Portfolio memory card slot.  The non volatile read/write
memory has 10 year data retention with no batteries. Driver software on
the card allows the user to read and write from the Portfolio or PCcard
Drive just as if it were a huge ramcard.  The software also allows the
user to erase 64k blocks of memory 100,000 times to make them available
for reuse. Delivery will begin at the end of September 1992. List prices
$179, $254, $399. Optrol Inc. PO Box 37157; Raleigh NC 27627. Phone
1-919-779-3377.  [There were lower intro prices until 10/15, but since
that is past I won't post them.]

- Best Electronics has introduced a new 640K memory expansion for only
$235. Installation should run around $50, but call 408-243-6950 for
further info. This is the biggest upgrade available!

- BSE has released a combination serial and parallel port adapter which
also contains an EPROM full of Port utilities which acts as drive B. They
have also released a 512K upgrade. Call 602-527-8843.  

[Additional note:  a PCMCIA adaptor was displayed at the CT AtariFest
last month by CIS Sysop BJ Gleason & assoc. No details available.]

Roy C. Gosewehr (not a Port owner or user)
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From: bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm)
Subject: Re: Panic on HP-95
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:56:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I think you should have left the space between COMMAND and /P.  I.e. 
SHELL=COMMAND /P   Also, check to see if the command.com is at root.  If
not, you might want to put the full path in.


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From: jeff@cuda.Corp.Sun.COM (Jeff Rabin-Sun-Ft. Lauderdale FL-Sales Rep)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: 95LX LCD Problem
Date: 15 Oct 1992 22:25:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Vienna, VA. 
NNTP-Posting-Host: cuda.east.sun.com

I've got a problem with my 95LX.  Most of the time the LCD is
blank and requires a twist of the case to get the display on.
Looks like a lose connection.  I've had the thing apart, but
I can't figure out how two open the upper half (with the LCD)
of the thing up.  I've checked all the connectors on the lower
half (with the keypad).

Has anybody opened the LCD half of the 95lx???  If so how???
I don't need details on how to get the two halves apart (I've
already gotten that far), but how to get to the LCD display
internals to fix the damn lose wire.

Is anybody else suffering from LCD blank-out?

Thanks, Jeff Rabin
From: asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: A few questions
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:10:36 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

Can someone help.

I have a new 95lx, but the screen assembly seems to wobble in reference to
to keyboard assembly. By this I mean the joint on the left hand side of the
screen keyboard clamshell seems to be loose. The right hand side is OK.

Is this a normal problem? Do I return it?


Secondly, is there anyway of doing a one key save from the applications?

Third, can you turn off the carriage return character in memo?

Finally is Derive 2.5 system manager compliant. I.e. can it be lauched from
on of the blue keys, while other apps are running?

Thanks in advance.

Andy
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 18:55:28 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <19325@acorn.co.uk> asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith) writes:
>In article <1b803aINNrab@uwm.edu> anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Oct07.204119.152524@zeus.calpoly.edu> claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight)) writes:
>>>*  a better RPN calculator
>>Definitely.  There doesn't seem to be a decent 95 scientific
>You obviously havn't played with Derive. There is a Derive 2.5 ROM card for

I haven't.  Unfortunely Derive is a lot more than I need (or can
afford) so I never considered it.  I didn't realize that it could be
used effectively as a calculator.

>My only bind is that you have to run it from the filer, after shutting down
>all the other applications. It would be so much neater if it were sysmgr
>compliant, and could be started from say CTRL+blue calc.

There are programs that can do that.  The hp95ctrl on eddie has a
little shell launcher that I think works without closing the other
applications.  There is also JagMnu and Menu95 which were just
recently put on eddie.
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From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: "BEEP BEEP ... you told me to remind you" ... from a 95LX ???
Date: 16 Oct 1992 02:33:23 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <54857@dime.cs.umass.edu> shri@legato.cs.umass.edu (H.Shrikumar) writes:
>   Can the HP95LX act as a reminder/alarm too ?
>
>   It should beep at preset time and date, even when switched
>and in my pocket (but close tomy heart :-) ?

It certainly has this capability.  For me, it's important enough that
if the 95 didn't have it I may not have gotten it or I would have had
to carry both my old Psion and the HP.  The Appointment application has
alarms on appointments and on a single count down timer.  The machine
will turn itself on (most of the time) and the alarm will sound for
several seconds.  The alarms won't go off if running MS-DOS software,
the DSALRM TSR mostly fixes that problem.

>  Q2. Has anyone actually used the fabled free A/D converter ever ?

Dave Goodman (72330.130@compuserve.com), author of the above DSALRM
program has wired an audio input using the extra ADC.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: A few questions
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:00:26 GMT

In article <Cohena-131092160738@l30346.mdc.com> Cohena@mdc.com (Andy Cohen) writes:
>In article <19352@acorn.co.uk>, asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith) wrote:
>
>The reason it's loose is because HP only puts a plastic clutch on the right
>side of the hinge...  There is nothing ...wrong with your 95...BUT here is
>how to make it firm....

[Solution deleted]

Yeah I did this to mine last week...works real cool. My Jag's screen is
about as stiff as when I first got it now....

----Steve

-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"You see, I'm kind of this control freak who likes to create his own
personal hells before the real one can get to him. I like to beat hell
to hell so to speak".--Spalding Gray "Monster in a box"
From: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: careful! (re hp95)
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:52:30 EST
Reply-To: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

Careful: in plugging in the serial cable on my HP95LX, I bent one
of the pins. It broke off when I straightened it. Nothing to do
but ship the machine off to the HP Service Center in Corvallis
OR. No one else is authorized to work on them, HP says, and they
won't release replacement parts to anyone else. I'm seriously up
a creek in terms of daily organization without it. Thankfully,
I'm off work three of the five days this week for (a) a faculty
retreat, (b) the Jewish holiday, and (c) jury duty, so I will
have only had to manage two days without it. They're supposed to
have a three- or four-day turnaround time, and I paid for
overnight shipping back to me, so I ought to have it Saturday if
they got it Monday as they did.
...eliot  [Eliot Gelwan M.D.]                            |
Internet: eliot.gelwan@channel1.com [home]              -*-
          eg%psych%umass@banyan.ummed.edu [office]       |
Postlink: ->CHANNEL1 [R/O okay]

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Psion-3 keyboard - is it good?
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:13:30 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

Do Psion-3 owners like the keyboard on their machines? It struck me that the
HP95LX and Psion's machine are almost the same size although the keyboards
are different. There are fewer but larger keys on the P3, which should make
it more pleasant to use as a word processor. Is touch-typing possible?
How large are individual keys, and how big is the entire keyboard?


MARCU$

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From: bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: autodialing with a palmtop or organizer?
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:35:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: mail.Bw6MMy.3MB
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Please post when it gets to eddie.
From: ma690188@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (R. Mark Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: GRAFI11.ZIP (Corrupt?)
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:16:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: gazette.1bmmd8INNbat
Reply-To: ma690188@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (R. Mark Adams)
Distribution: world
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
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Originator: ma690188@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu



Has anybody out there managed to get a working copy of GRAFI11.ZIP down 
from eddie.mit.edu?  I downloaded it several times (yes, Virginia,
they were in Binary mode...:-)), and none of the copies would unzip with
PKUNZIP - it kept reporting 'don't know X' for each of the files in the
archive.

Is there another place a copy can be found?  If not, is it possible for
somebody to email me a working copy?

Thanks!


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From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: autodialing with a palmtop or organizer?
Date: 13 Oct 1992 18:18:36 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Keywords: acoustic coupling, voice communications, rolodex, portfolio?

In article <212@lord.UUCP> dei@lord.UUCP (Douglas E. Ivers) writes:
>I didn't get any response from my first posting, so I hope someone can
>help me...

I didn't even see it and I've been reading comp.sys.palmtops daily
for months.

>Doesn't the Portfolio have an analog speaker which could be used to
>autodial?  What about the forthcoming Newton?  I wish that I could say money

I beleive the Portfolio has a built in DTMF generator that is
integrated into the phonebook database.  Any machine with a digital to
analog converter or running at 8MHz or so can generate DTMF on its
internal speaker (if any).  The HP-95LX has a DAC and there's a program
called dialtone which will generate DTMF with it, although it doesn't
seem to be that easy to use configure.  I wasn't able to get the DTMF
it generates to work on my phone, although I didn't fiddle with it
much.
--
<-:(= Anthony Stieber	anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu   uwm!uwmcsd4!anthony
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: can i do add-in (r)
Date: 9 Oct 1992 17:50:48 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <Bvv3G0.I12@mail.boi.hp.com> bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm) writes:
>gotten from ftp sites outside CompuServe.  For example, the e2m.exe program
>converts a .exe into .exm by changing a few parameters inside the .exe file.

I thought that this program is only one of the several steps that must
be taken to create an exm file, and that it cannot be used on any
arbitrary exe file.  Has anyone been able to take an exe that was not
created for System Manager and made it System Manager compliant?
--
<-:(= Anthony Stieber	anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu   uwm!uwmcsd4!anthony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight))
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 23:18:54 GMT

anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) says:
>Condensed modes are available right now.  There are some programs on
>Compuserve that do this.  I don't know what limitations they have if
>any, they may only for certain MS-DOS applications.  Unfortunatly the
>author of this software doesn't want it distributed anywhere but
>Compuserve, the Palmtop Paper, and ACE Technology as he will eventually
>be selling it as a commercial product.

Can someone with Compu$erve access be a kindly soul and actually transfer some
of these programs to the internet?  If I remember right, you can freely
redistribute them, which is what you'd be doing by placing things on eddie.
-- 
---King Claudius---                                   claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 00:41:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <1992Oct7.212806.10203@netcom.com> mbk@netcom.com (Miles Kehoe) writes:
>williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Williams) writes:
>
>Actually you can configure the backspace to send DEL - if that
>will do anything for you. 

yeah, but then you can't send backspace.  The terminal emulator
is buggy.  It should send backspace for backspace and DEL for DEL.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
To be loyal to rags, to shout for rags, to worship rags, to die for rags 
-- that is a loyalty of unreason, it is pure animal (Mark Twain).
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From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Psion-3 keyboard - is it good?
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:10:11 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <1992Oct14.131330.16225@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>Do Psion-3 owners like the keyboard on their machines? It struck me that the
>HP95LX and Psion's machine are almost the same size although the keyboards
>are different. There are fewer but larger keys on the P3, which should make
>it more pleasant to use as a word processor. Is touch-typing possible?
>How large are individual keys, and how big is the entire keyboard?

The keys are about 8 mm square, in a staggered arrangement like a
normal typewriter keyboard, and they are spaced at 11 mm intervals
centre to centre (or if you prefer, there is 3mm between adjacent
keys.  The entire keyboard is about 5.2cm by 15.1cm, measuring from the
outermost edges of the keys themselves.

It is definitely too small to do proper touch-typing on, unless you
have tiny hands.  If you can touchtype, you'll find you can manage
pretty well with a sort of sloppy 'move the hands around and guess
where the keys are' almost touch-typing style, because everything is
where you expect it.  You'll still need to watch your fingers, and
you'll end up spending a reasonable amount of time correcting errors,
though.

It's a bit better keyboard than the HP, which has made the 'typewriter'
part of the keyboard even smaller so that it can stick some extra stuff
(cursor keys?  I've forgotten exactly what) off to one side.  For
touch-typing, the best pocket thing I've seen is the Sharp IQ (or OZ)
8000 series, but that doesn't have sensible word processing.  If you
plan to do lots of typing on it, you probably need to go bigger, to an
A5 or A4 notebook machine.

-- 
Paul Smee, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1UD, UK
 P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk - ..!uunet!uknet!bsmail!p.smee - Tel +44 272 303132
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: ark@Office.Stanford.EDU (Arthur Keller)
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Originator: ark@Office.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:03:11 GMT

MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>This is what the HP96LX mk.II should be like, if it ever is
>built;
>
>1.A LARGER CLAMSHELL:
>--------------------
>At 16x8.5cm the 95LX is extremely convenient. I always carry it
>with me in a small bag or pocket, writing notes and memos as I
>go. The small size also means I can hold it comfortably with two
>hands and write using my thumbs only and still reach all keys.
>The drawback is the tiny keyboard and display. Therefore, HP
>would be well advised to make the next model just a tiny bit
>larger. At 17.5x9.5cm (6.9x3.75 in.) the Sharp Wizard is very
>much the optimal size as far as ergonomical design is concerned.
>Just small enough to fit inside most pockets, yet large enough
>for a decent keyboard. If we enlarge the HP95LX by 1.5x1cm, there
>will be ample room for a larger screen as well. It would be great
>to have a slightly slimmer unit at the same time. The 95LX is a bit
>too bulky for my liking.
>

Please do NOT make the HP95LX more than 8.5cm across.  Believe it or
not, it now fits in shirt pockets.  It won't if it were an extra
cm across.  Enlarging in the other direction would not affect me,
but it would affect the products coming on the market that contain
a cradle for the HP95LX (such as the new SkyTel product announced
in a brochure I just received).

As far as I am concerned, the inside cover could almost entirely be
used for an LCD with a finer density than now to achieve a much larger
number of pixels.

--

Also, I happen to like the keyboard on the HP95LX.  HP calculators
have a tactile feel to them.  You can tell when a button has been
pressed sufficiently.  In comparison, Casio and Sharp keyboards are
like mush.

For comparison, I do not like the keyboard on my Apple PowerBook 170
either.  Much too mushy.  And I do like the keyboards on those old
IBM Selectric typewriters.

To me, the keyboard is one measure of the fit and finish of a computer
product, much as how well the door closes on a car is a measure to some.

Arthur Keller