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From: kiwong@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kinsley Wong)
Subject: Re: Wheels & Such...
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 03:20:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep07.195507.23094@ecst.csuchico.edu> jnewborn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Gadget) writes:
>
>
>Anyone have the going rates on wheels for inlines?  I have a feeling that the
>stores around here jack up the prices due to lack of availability.  Any info
>is appreciated...
 Krytonics wheels 70 mm  $ 4.25
                   77      5.45
                  80       6.25

These are the price of wheels from 70 to 80 mm.
~~ Kinsley Wong ~~

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From: pams@triton.unm.edu (Roost)
Subject: Wheel/Bearing/Spacer etc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 16:29:31 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

This has probably been discusssed before but I didn't see it so here goes:

I didn't like fiddling with the tightness of the wheel bolts to get
maximum spin with minimum slop all of the time so I bought some spacers
that have bolts that screw in from both sides.  After installing these, I
can tighten the bolts as tight as I want and the wheels still spin VERY
freely.  The only problem is that the wheels have a little side to side 
movement now.  Will this mess up my bearings?  Should I just go back to
the original bolts or what??   The skates are Rollerblade Lightnings.

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From: el1q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erica A. Lipasti)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: figure skating news?
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:12:56 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Telecommunications, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>I saw a brief blurb in this week's TV guide saying that Kristi
>Yamaguchi hasn't decided yet whether to continue competing as an
>amateur, or to turn pro.  Anybody have news about any of the other
>skaters?  When are the fall competitions (Skate Canada, etc) going
>to be?

I saw this same clip about Kristi Yamaguchi, and am now confused,
because about a week or two ago I heard on the radio that she had
decided to turn pro.  Are there any other figure skating fans out there
who have any information on Kristi or, as Sandra asked, on anyone else???

Erica
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: FAQ consolidation?
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:00:55 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <YZr-x4@engin.umich.edu> dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan) writes:
> Hi folks.  About time for another round of FAQ reposting.  The list of FAQ
> type files is getting kind of long, especially for a low-volume group such
> as rec.skate (low-volume but high signal-noise ratio thank goodness 8-)
> Off the top of my head, we've got:
> 
> 1) Stopping FAQ
> 2) bearings FAQ
> 3) general rec.skate FAQ
> 4) reviews of skates (compilation)
> 5) Thomas' hockey FAQ
> 6) Nancy's hockey stick file (not exactly a FAQ file, but...)
> 7) Phil's 3rd party add-ons file (hasn't been reposted for a long time)
> 8) wheels FAQ (mine, but haven't really needed to post yet)
> 9) Skating places (compilation)
> 10) mail-order listing
> 
> Maybe it's about time we combine them into one or two main FAQ files, like:
>   1) How-to/FYI section
>       - stopping
>       - bearing maint.
>       - general 
>       - wheels
>       - skating places
>       - hockey/hockey stick
>   2) Products/Reviews section
>       - skate reviews
>       - 3rd party add-ons
>       - mail-order
> 
> Then the next order of business would be to cross-post to news.answers so
> that the FAQs would be on hand much longer so everyone gets a chance to 
> find them.  For the time being, if anyone would like copies of any of the
> files, just drop me a note.

This might be a good idea, but I'd play with several different arrangements
before mushing everything into two FAQ postings.  Any periodic postings should
be edited down into reasonable length, since most folks don't like to read more
than a few screens on-line.  You can alwasy keep a "you asked for it" file to
send to people who want more detail.

The headings I'd suggest:

Skating, Stopping and Falling
Skates, Wheels and Maintenance
Prices, Products and Mail-order
Places, Techniques, Styles and Games (?)
Getting Started, Lessons, Rentals, Books, Videos

Some of the information, like the other 39 ways of stopping and all that
nice Hockey detail really don't fall into the FAQ category - scan through
some back postings and see which are the most frequently asked questions
and repeated answers...

Keep up the good work, of course!

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: bill@nextoy (Bill Schell)
Subject: Skating in Hong Kong & China
Keywords: inline skating, Hong Kong, China
Organization: SPS
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:21:17 GMT

ladies, gents, and other assorted roller/inline skating hangers-on:

R U Interested a Trip to Hong Kong and China (Guagzhou / Guangdong  
Province) in Early November, for a 5 to 10 day shopping /  
roller-blading (yes, I KNOW it's a trademark - just like  
"windsurfing") - give me a break!)...

We're (more details is you're REAALLY INTERESTED) in putting together  
a trip - want to know if anyone's interested - 

if you are, e-mail to: bill@nextasy.attmail.com (primary) or  
bill@nextoy.sps.mot.com (only if nextasy doesn't work)...

I'll send details, itinerary, etc. etc. etc. 

happy bytes in hong kong - 
"Cult Leader" for NeXT Computers and Inline Skating in Southeast  
Asia!
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan)
Subject: Re: FAQ consolidation?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:18:39 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <VRX4qB1w164w@cellar.org> darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
>
>It's an idea.  But those are going to be a couple of huge mothering files!

Oops 8-) Yeah, it became obvious that two sections wouldn't cut it, so I 
had a five part breakdown.  Something like:
 1)  What and Where to Buy (~74K)
      - after-market add ons
      - mail-order
      - in-line skate reviews
 2)  Where to Skate (~74K)
      - outdoor paths/locations
      - indoor rinks
 3)  General Stuff (~17K)
      - general FAQ stuff (includes a book list)
 4)  Stopping, wheels and bearings (~47K)
 5)  Hockey FAQ (~20K)
      - Thomas' FAQ
      - Nancy's hockey stick file (actually, I've appended some good 
        additional comments from Thomas Sullivan)

The first two items are still humungous, due to being compilations instead 
of integrated, but I'm hesitant to try and determine what is and isn't good
info, especially for the Where to Skate file.  That is, unless someone
wants to tackle it for me.  I could probably do some integration in the
skate reviews, though.

Also, I suppose "stopping" can go with the General FAQ, and wheels and
bearing can have their own file.  And some small stuff on brakes can go
with them too.

>Also, some of the material doesn't split up so easily.  My hockey file, for
>instance, includes commentary on brand-name skate and gear suggestions,
>which might overlap with material under #2 above.

Well, no harm in a little overlap, especially if some people won't be reading
the FAQ stuff, from top to bottom.  

>Expect a heavily updated hockey file in a couple of days, Tony.  I think

I guess I'll hold off on the FAQ posting for a couple days yet.  Looks
like I could still use some organizational feedback.  Meanwhile, I'll
work on trying to make the files smaller.

-Tony Chen
 adchen@lee.cs.uiowa.edu
From: zeke@wdl50.wdl.loral.com (Solly Ezekiel)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Curiosity ?'s About Blade Design
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:59:20 GMT
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs


Hi everyone,

I had my first blading experience yesterday, and enjoyed it a lot.
I figure skate, so I managed to get around on the blades all right,
but I have some questions:

  1.	I notice that the wheels were in a perfectly straight line,
	so the skates did not have any 'rocker' to them.  This made
	it exceedingly difficult to try things like 3-turns (I did
	manage a few, but it was scary).  Are all roller blades like
	that, or was it just the pair I rented?

  2.	There was nothing resembling toe picks on the blades.  I realize
	that, when you are tooling down a road that has not been planed
	by a Zamboni, toe picks might be asking for trouble, but might
	it not be possible to place them "high" on the toe, i.e., so that
	you really have to tilt forward to catch them?  That would
	make it a lot easier to do things like jumps.  Again, are all
	roller blades like that, or just the pair I rented?

  3.	I remember someone posting a list on this newsgroup about the
	various ways of stopping.  Could someone mail a copy of that
	list to me?

Thanks in advance,

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Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: hall@graffias.cs.umbc.edu (Marty Hall)
Subject: Re: Skating in Hong Kong & China
Keywords: inline skating, Hong Kong, China
Organization: AAI Corp AI Lab, UMBC CS Department
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:40:20 GMT


Great idea; start a fad! There are some hints of it already in Asia:
When we were in Taiwan this summer, we were suprised to see in-line
skates for sale at a street market in Taipei. We also sent some
Japanese friends back home to Osaka with two pairs. The only problem
(both countries) is lack of open space. We left our skates home
on our trip, and didn't miss them; in Taiwan and Japan it was pretty
hard to find open space, and in Indonesia and the Phillipines it
was hard to find "good" pavement. But, having already made the
decision to leave our skates behind, we didn't look too hard. Let
us know how you fare.
				- Marty
(proclaim '(inline skates))

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: mmwang@adobe.com (Michael Wang)
Subject: Re: Where to blade in South Bay Area?
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:13:10 GMT

In article <pztn6ff.thinman@netcom.com> thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet) writes:
>Hi folks-
>
>Where are good places to go roller-blading in the South Bay?  
>We're located in the north end of Palo Alto.
>
>The only nice stretches of pavement we've found so far
>is the south end of Shoreline Park, at the end of Shoreline
>Blvd.  
>
>How is the Stanford campus?  The bike boulevard?
>
>Looking for new places to skate,
>
>Lance Norskog

The campus is okay, but not when there are students wandering about.
Most of the residential streets around the campus are good to skate on
(avoid Mayfield Ave. if possible). If you don't mind traffic, the
Campus Drive loop is fairly nice.

Further north, in Menlo Park there are some nice quiet streets that
are good for skating. Even further north is Atherton, which has some
good streets.

Down south, I know that Los Altos has some nice quiet streets for
biking, but I can't remember how good the roads are for skating. I'm
still looking around in Mountain View for good places to skate, but I
haven't really found any place yet.

If you have a bike, I suggest you take a street map and go wander
around, avoiding the busy streets. Mark down on the map any street
that looks particularly suited for skating. If you have lots of
stamina, then you can do the same on skates. You never know what you
might discover!

-- 
Michael Wang
mmwang@mv.us.adobe.com
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan)
Subject: Re:  Pre-race conditioning?
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 04:07:04 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <42090033@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites) writes:
>|    Sooooooo, do I try the Rec level and have a learning experience (read:
>|    get blown away 8-) or shall I hold off and train more specifically for
>
>Try the Rec level, but don't be surprised if you see 5 wheelers, Quads, and 
>little kids half your age passing ya' by!  This isn't a remark about your 
>level of conditioning...more of a 'personal experience' on my part.  Don't
>worry...have fun...try not to be last.  <grin>

I'm gonna have 10 year olds passing me?  Boy, time to do some roller
derby moves...heh (just kidding, of course)  BTW, I've seen some roller
derby on TV late at night...what exactly are the rules?  I can't figure
it out.  Or are there any? 8-)  I think roller derby skaters have less
teeth than ice hockey players! heh

-Tony Chen
 adchen@lee.cs.uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: kliew@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: dir /newsgroup
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:46:05 GMT

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Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: kiwong@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kinsley Wong)
Subject: Does anyone has a phone number of Green Sector in Northridge??
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 06:22:19 GMT

I heard from my buddy that Green Sector in Northrige down near L.A. ahs
have a 1/2 sale on all the wheels for skates.

Does anyone know there phone number???

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From: dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: FAQ requests
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:07:21 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Apologies to those who requested FAQ files from me.  The mail server on
my home machine is a rejecting all my outgoing mail.  The good news is
that the completed new FAQ should be posted sometime tomorrow night.
I hope the new format works out okay.

-Tony Chen
 adchen@lee.cs.uiowa.edu
From: kimon@orac.holonet.net (Kimon Papahadjopulos)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Racerblade vs Bauer XR10
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:00:45 GMT
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)

mann@vis.toronto.edu (Richard Anthony Mann) writes:

>I'm looking for a good _cruising_ skate, what are the differences between 
>Racerblade and XR10?
>- Which is heavier?  Is it boot or frame that contributes to weight?
They are both quite heavy - I'm not sure which wins the award...

>- What is advantage of having removeable frame on XR10?  Can you put lighter
>frame on later (or is it boot that makes it heavy?)
Yes.  You can also change the centering of the frame, buy a shorter or longer
frame, and replace the frame if it bends (and yes, that is a problem on the
Racerblade).

>- Will Racerblade take 80mm wheels?
I'm not sure-- I would hope so...But for long range cruising, you may be better
off with a smaller wheel anyway.

>- Is there an advantage to having ratchet fastener on Racerblade?  Which boot
>fits better?
The ratchet is great-- it is very easy to get them as tight as you want.
The fastening system on the Racerblade is very good.  However, there seem to
be a lot of people who have trouble with the boot and/or lining-- I did.  I
can't (or couldn't) skate 6 miles or so without them damaging my feet.  I
know several other people that had the same problem.  However, other people
have no problems at all...

>I'm thinking of getting the Racerblades, they're on sale here for 200CAD (plus
>15% taxes).  The XR10s are more, at around 350CAD plus taxes.
Depends how much time you want to spend in your skates.  200CAD (I am guessing
at the exchange rate) sounds like a good price.  As long as you know your
feet can handle the racerblade boot, the price difference is probably
big enough to justify getting the racerblades.

Price the same though, I would go with the Bauer because of the frame.

Kimon Papahadjopoulos
kimon@holonet.net
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Curiosity ?'s About Blade Design
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:16:52 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Sep8.185920.3578@wdl.loral.com> zeke@wdl50.wdl.loral.com (Solly Ezekiel) writes:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I had my first blading experience yesterday, and enjoyed it a lot.
> I figure skate, so I managed to get around on the blades all right,
> but I have some questions:
> 
>   1.	I notice that the wheels were in a perfectly straight line,
> 	so the skates did not have any 'rocker' to them.  This made
> 	it exceedingly difficult to try things like 3-turns (I did
> 	manage a few, but it was scary).  Are all roller blades like
> 	that, or was it just the pair I rented?

Many in-lines have provision for "rockering" the wheels.  Generally
this takes the form of oval bushings or two or all of the wheels
that can be put in a normal or offset position.  Check the skates
available in your area, most brands have this option, except for
the cheapest and those intended for racing.  The skates should feel
considerably more maneuverable with the rockered setting...
 
>   2.	There was nothing resembling toe picks on the blades.  I realize
> 	that, when you are tooling down a road that has not been planed
> 	by a Zamboni, toe picks might be asking for trouble, but might
> 	it not be possible to place them "high" on the toe, i.e., so that
> 	you really have to tilt forward to catch them?  That would
> 	make it a lot easier to do things like jumps.  Again, are all
> 	roller blades like that, or just the pair I rented?

They're pretty much all that way.  Most skaters are not doing classical
figures and jumps and a "toe pick" or toe stop would probably just be
in the way.  The rear brake is highly effective, but I guess a rear
brake and front stop would make the skates very long and it would be
hard to keep from tangling your feet.

Proably the best idea is to start with moves not dependent on a toe pick
and generally concrete-safe and then work up to your own mix of classical
and street moves.

>   3.	I remember someone posting a list on this newsgroup about the
> 	various ways of stopping.  Could someone mail a copy of that
> 	list to me?

I'm assuming Tony or someone will do this...

From: aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:41:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Night skating (was Re: FAQ:  Mail-order numbers/address)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.skate


| Typically, such systems will not fit over/under a helmet. Do you know if the
| system you mention will work with bike helmets?

Huh?  You don't think that a night climber whould wear a hemet?  Silly guy!
Of course the climber's headlamp can fit over a helmet. The bands are both
adjustable AND elastic.  I wouldn't wear them while doing jumps and 360's, but
I'm not likely to be doing that in the dark anyway.  (I'm not NUTS!)

| fairly expensive, but not a bad solution if having adequate lighting can

Thanks for listing some alternatives.  You said expensive.  How much?

Jim 8')s  |  aites@hpsmpa.lvld.hp.com

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: phd1667@ultb.isc.rit.edu (P.H. Dixon )
Subject: CoolBlades for Sale
Originator: phd1667@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:07:07 GMT

Hi,

I purchased a pair of CoolBlades (Size 12) about a month ago, but
with work, have not had a chance to use them :-(

I'd like to sell them for $150 to someone who'd get more use from them.

If interested, please send email...

Thanks,

Philip
From: pwwisnes@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Paul W. Wisneskey)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Pipes/parks
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:15:24 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Thanks for the info - If our team is ever up for a road trip I'll be
heading that way.  What I'm really looking for is skateboard parks that
let rollerbladers in.  I love to skate half pipes, bowl, converted 
swimming pools, etc.  If anyone knows of any of these places on the
East Coast I would love to hear about them.

Also, anyone interested in visiting a school that is a bladers dream:
plenty of stairs to jump and bump, rails to ride, and about 17 miles
of sidewalk all in close proximity - drop me a line here at Virginia
Tech.

Thanks,
Paul
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: kimon@orac.holonet.net (Kimon Papahadjopulos)
Subject: Re: Rockerable racing skates?
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:58:49 GMT

pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:

>I think the RacerBlade could be renamed the CruiserBlade or somesuch.  It is
>truly fine as a long-distance cruiser. If you master the turns and decreased
>braking leverage available on the Racerblade, you've got a bulletproof
>skate that will take you huge distances.

Yes, actually a good solution for people not doing too serious racing.  Just
as long as they realize that before they buy it.  That and the Bauer
XR/10 (I think it's called), which I like a bit better because the frame is
removeable.

I did run into a fellow the other day who was using the Bauer for racing.  He
had replaced the frames with Mogema's and was using a skate two sizes two
small after doing something to the liners-- which actually made them seem
somewhat dainty (though I don't know how light they actally were).  Not bad
if you don't want your feet to go through the agony of breaking in a leather
skate...

Kimon Papahadjopoulos
kimon@holonet.net
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From: hole@netcom.com (Will Leland)
Subject: Re: Sail Skating
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:32:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <tam.02s9@furry.lonestar.org> tam@furry.lonestar.org (Todd A. Murray) writes:
>
>The magazine "Stunt Kite Quarterly" had an article in their Spring 1992 issue
>about rollerkiting, which is skating while being pulled by a stunt kite.  It
>looks pretty interesting, although I haven't tried it yet.  They recommend 
>using a four line stunt kite, such as a Revolution I or a Quadrifoil, and the
>article gives several detailed tips about how to set up your equipment.  They
>also say that tacking against the wind works better than going directly with
>the wind, because going directly with the wind will make you crash quickly.

Done that.  Lots of fun.  Used a Revolution out on a dry lake (Mojave) in
Southern Calif.  Can really get moving when it starts howling.  Easily kept
up with a land yacht.
From: pwwisnes@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Paul W. Wisneskey)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Sail Skating
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:01:40 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Sail skating has been around for about two years.  It uses a small symmetric
sail (not unlike the one found on a "wind weapon" for you windsurfers).
It is just like regular sailing but you have more control since your on
wheels.  You tack by rotating the sail 180 degrees.  The best place to
probabily find information is from Rollerblade - they feature sailblading in
a few of their videos.  Most sails run around $180 bucks or more so you
might want to try the bedsheet thing.

Paul Wisneskey
Damage Inc. Skate Team
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