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From: slowe@david.wheaton.edu (Steve Lowe)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Word Processor for DEC 5900 ULTRIX Host
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:06:58 GMT


Our new system is a DEC 5900 running ULTRIX (Good news).  The
challenge is the installation of a new word processing program on
the DEC 5900.  Our current word processing program (operating on a
VAX 6320) is WORD-11 (supported by Data Processing Design).

Our initial choice for an ULTRIX-based word processing program is
WordPerfect 5.0 (not yet ported to WP5.1).  Data Processing Design
has a conversion program from WORD-11 to WordPerfect.

Before we embark on this approach, is there another ULTRIX word
processor that we should consider?

BTW  --  I would like comments from current ULTRIX WordPerfect
users.

    Steve Lowe


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From: papresco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD? (long)
Keywords: n
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:41:30 GMT

>>Add in OS/2 and (I believe) AmigaDOS.  Plus many, many, many, command 
>>line oriented programs that are not operating systems like symbolic
>>math packages and graphing packages.  Plus every text mode adventure
>>game.	
>
>Which, as we all know, collectively constitute the zenith of software
>development.  It is doubtful that any modern operating system could
>succeed that was not modeled after a text adventure.  I can see it now
>...
I considered not including text adventure games, but I thought...I've 
included a long list of other applications and operating systems other
then games, so nobody can (logically) flame me for basing OS development
solely on games.  I was silly to think you would be logical...

The fact is, for every OS there are probably about 100 non-OS command
line driven applications.  Help (or ?) does something in almost all of
them.


Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,alt.folklore.computers
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Whence Unix? (was Re: IS UNIX DEAD?) (New Thread?)
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:39:00 GMT

In article <hT8BrAbBBh107h@lorc.UUCP> lowen@lorc.UUCP (Lamar Owen) writes:

>In <STEVEV.92Nov13100727@miser.uoregon.edu> stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) writes:

>>In article <1dvltdINN6i4@skat.usc.edu> jlowrey@skat.usc.edu (John 'Fritz' Lowrey) writes:

>>	   My seed:
>>	   Microsoft DOS	->	Intended as a stepping stone while DR 
>>				   wrapped up CP/M-86, and now the program
>>				   loader of choice for countless millions. 

>>You really need to study up on your computing history.  You seem
>>to imply that Microsoft got MS-DOS from Digital Research.
>>Microsoft got MS-DOS from a small firm called Seattle Computer,
>>which had written a quick-and-dirty CP/M clone called SC-DOS.
>>Then Microsoft hacked it up and marketed the hell out of it.

>The original marketing niche for MS-DOS was as a stepping stone from the
>8-bit CP/M world to the multiuser 16-bit world of Xenix.  Microsoft, in
>the early 80's, fully intended to make Xenix their high-end OS.  However,
>the market chose otherwise.

And why did the market choose otherwise.

Easy.   Dos 1.0 - on a 64k max memory machine with a single 160k floppy
at $60 list price was a much better deal than CPM from DRI at $300.

DOS 1.0 looked a lot like CPM.  But when I used it I found that the
S-100 4Mhz Z80 based machines with memory mapped display was so much
faster than the 4.7 Mhz 8086 machine with the IBM 'idea' of a video
display adapter was pretty poor.      

The machines were pretty evenly matched, but the slow display on the PC
made it look slow.

I remember one demo I saw of a computer called a Max80 by Lobo.  It was
CPM or Radio Shack Model I hardware compatible.

They'd fire up a program writing numbers to a screen on the PC, and
then walk across the room, type in the program on the Max, and then run
it, and have the Max finish first.    Impressive to people who didn't
know a damn thing about computers.

And when DOS 1.0 came out the Xenix wasn't even talked about for low
end machines.   I remember seeing the first effort by SCO at one of
their very first public outings.  I believe it was at Comdex in 1984.

The *IX variants up to that time had a real problem running on an 8086
chip.   I wouldn't say it was slow, but the only other computer that I
saw that was slower was turned off.

Microsoft's Xenix efforts were for Tandy on their 68000
based machines.   That was the 1.x series.  The 3.x series for those
machines was done by SCO.  The IBM Xenix 1.0 was released unsupported.
The 2.0 was really bad - supported - but bad.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: root@candle.uucp (Bruce Momjian)
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's date? (Utility?)
Organization: a consultant's basement
Distribution: comp.unix.shell
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:26:01 GMT
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Linda A. Malcor (legend@cheshire.oxy.edu) wrote:
: I'm looking for a (standard) unix utility that can tell me what tommorow's
: date is (as well as the date 15hrs in the future/past, etc.). Any ideas?
: Date math is so common, I'd just like to avoid reinventing the wheel.
: 

You can set the TZ environment variable ( defined in /etc/TIMEZONE ) on
the command line before calling 'date'.  For example, I am in the
Eastern Time zone, so my TIMEZONE file says:

	# established Sun Apr  5 09:55:46 EDT 1992
	TZ=EST5EDT
	export TZ

I am +5 hours from GMT, to to get tommorow's date, I use (-24 + 5) or -19,
like this:

	TZ=EST-19EDT date

and I get the time and date exactly 24 hours in the future.  The export TZ
is not needed.
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From: svkakkad@cs.utexas.edu (Sheetal V. Kakkad)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: rexec does not search for ~/.netrc file
Date: 17 Nov 1992 16:29:42 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: boogie.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: rexec, netrc

I am trying to use rexec(3N) on a Sun SparcStation to start a server
on a remote host (also a Sun SparcStation). The synopsis of the call
(as given in the man page) is:

SYNOPSIS
     rem = rexec(ahost, inport, user, passwd, cmd, fd2p);
     char **ahost;
     u_short inport;
     char *user, *passwd, *cmd;
     int *fd2p;

Here's the relevant portion of the description from the man page:

DESCRIPTION
	...
     If  a  username  and password are both specified, then these
     are used to authenticate to the foreign host; otherwise  the
     environment  and  then  the  user's  .netrc file in his home
     directory are searched for appropriate information.  If  all
     this fails, the user is prompted for the information.
	...

Now, I have a .netrc file in my home directory which has lines of the
following form, one line for each foreign host:

machine machinename login mylogin password mypassword

Here's how I call rexec in my program (I have also shown some other
relevant variables used in the call):

int port;	/* set using getservent ("exec", "tcp") call */
char *rhost;	/* set to the foreign host name */
char *srvr;	/* set to full path name of my server */

s = rexec (&rhost, port, (char *) NULL, (char *) NULL, 
	   srvr, (char *) NULL);

Even though I have the .netrc file set up in my home directory, the
call still prompts me for the username and password.

My question is: Am I doing something wrong here, or is this a commonly
known bug? Any pointers will be appreciated.

My machine is a SparcStation ELC running SunOS 4.1.2. All the remote
hosts (where I am trying to start up my server) are SparcStation 1's
also running SunOS 4.1.2.

Thanks in advance,

- Sheetal

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: spiegel@song.bellcore.com (Murray Spiegel)
Subject: function calls for awkcc code
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:32:23 GMT

We have developed an application using (n)awk, and convert to C
using awkcc when we want to run the program (for purposes of speed up).

The program takes input from stdin and writes to stdout.
(When stuff is read into an awk program some other variables
like $0, NF, etc, are also set.)

We want to change the input/output mechanism of our program,
specifically the awkcc generated version, as that is what 
we will be using in the final product.

We want our program to be implemented as a _function call_.

That is, instead of reading stuff from stdin, our C program 
is passed a parameter which would be the input string, and returns
an output string (instead of writing to stdio). As our program takes 
a long time to initialize (it has a very large BEGIN structure), 
we do not want to do the initialization for every input.

The awkcc generated code is very obscure, and it seems a non-trivial
task to implement our awkcc generated program as a function call. 
We did locate the function which opens the input as a stream of type FILE *. 
However, it seems trying to change that would in turn entail changing/rewriting 
a whole bunch of code. We are looking for help to solve this problem.

One way to get around this problem is to have a parent process which
connects via pipes in both directions to a child process (our program)
which is started up once.  We then communicated with the parent C
program.   But in our case, we DO NOT want to have about 48 different
child processes running for 48 the different sources which can access
our program on one machine.

That's why we are looking into implementing our program as a function call.

Anyone who can offer some help, please send me email.  Thank you!

spiegel@bellcore.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
Subject: Re: make, makefile where s.'s are in another directory, clean solution ?
Keywords: make
Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 04:33:03 GMT

>In article <1992Nov20.140313.32637@europa.asd.contel.com>, mclemore@rebec.asd.contel.com (Ken McLemore) writes:
> we like to keep all our "s." files in one source directory and run makes
> in other directory during development, looking for a clean solution for
> these "s." dependencies other than an explicit entry for each ".c" that
> has macro pathing to the source directory.
> suggestions, thanks in advance....ken

This probably depends on the version make you are using.

We use GNU make (and are very happy with it) and it has a feature
that makes this a triviality. Using GNU make, all you need do is
put:

vpath   s.%     SCCSdir

This tells make to look for files that are names s.something in
directory SCCSdir.

As I understand things, this use of vpath is unique to GNU make. But
other makes have a less powerful feature using a variable VPATH. Check
the documentation that comes with your system.



-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: Big.Fun@debug.cuc.ab.ca
Subject: FSCK command
Reply-To: Big.Fun@debug.cuc.ab.ca ()
Organization: The Magic BBS (Debug Computer Services)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 04:50:34 GMT
Keywords: 
 
 

When using the fsck (file system check), when it comes upon part 4 of
the check, which is a reference check, it says, "UNREF DEVICE".  What
does this mean?
 
Thanks.. please send all replies via mail..
 
suicide
big.fun@debug.cuc.ab.cu

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: How do I get a particualr line of a file?
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:34:13 GMT

In article <1epbqtINNskk@violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk> maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders) writes:

>In article <1992Nov22.235943.13501@umbc3.umbc.edu> rouben@math9.math.umbc.edu (Rouben Rostamian) writes:
>
>%To print line 30:
>%sed -n 30p filename
>
>Even simpler, for csh or tcsh, do
>alias line "sed -n \!:1p \!:2"
>
>Then type line 7 filename, or line 30,35 filename, for example.

Unless my knowledge of sed fails me here -- which is entirely possible
-- you'll waste fewer machine cycles with sed -n '30p;30q' filename.

-- 
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From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD? (long)
Date: 14 Nov 92 12:26:13 GMT
Organization: Global Village 1

papresco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:

>>dumb question is this?  Are you blaming your keyboard manufacturer's
>>ills on Unix, or are you incoherently expecting that Unix assign some
>>sort of meaning to every key assignable?

>No it's not a dumb question.  There is no standard for help in the Unix
>world.  The f keys are seldom used in unix programs.  Most terminals
>have f keys.  It would seem this would be a good time to start convincing
>people to use F1 for help, n'est ce pas?

Right! And since curses supports the F-keys (and many others too) it means
that at least every curses based program could support it. If your keyboard
doesn't have a F1 key, too bad, then you'll have to do your tasks without
helptext.

>With 95% of all keyboards having little bumps on the "home" key it makes
>absolutely NO SENSE to use keys one character right of the home keys
>as cursor keys.  None whatsoever.  Espeicially when h could be a help
>key, instead of wasted on the right arrow, when J should be the right
>arrow.

Uhm, shouldn't that be left arrow? :-) But you're right, it's just that
adm3a's had cursor arrows on their HJKL keys. Why they didn't take the JKL;
keys? I don't know...

>Why is typing text into a text editor "a mistake."  VI should default
>to typing mode.  It would 100% or more user friendly, as well as compatible
>with the other 1000 programs out there that claim to be editors. 

Well, I don't think it's a good idea to change vi NOW, as too many people
are familiar with it.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: dlparker@dlpinc00.rn.com (David L. Parker)
Subject: Re: grep
Organization: Automated Data Management Services
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:36:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.092645.522@ericsson.se> etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.113839.25046@dlpinc00.rn.com>, 
>dlparker@dlpinc00.rn.com (David L. Parker) writes:
>|> 
>|> Actually it's Global Regular Expression Parser.
>
>Unfortunately Brian Kernigan and Rob Pike disagree with you, see
>page 18 of:
>
>The Unix Programming Environment
>Prentice Hall
>ISBN 0-13-937699-2
>

WOOPS!  Okay, so I got three out of four.
-- 
Dave Parker
Automated Data Management Services, Pleasant Hill, MO 64080-1331
(816) 987-5167/5218 voice/fax          -          dlpinc00!dlparker
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From: shepler@gumby.austin.ibm.com ( Spencer Shepler )
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: Shortened repost: mmap over NFS problem
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:29:18 GMT
Organization: PSLOB. IBM Austin, Tx


In article <1992Nov17.185422.4713@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> esg@pyuxd.uucp (25235-gokhman) writes:
   Hi:

   This is a (shortened) repost of an article for which I got no responses. Writing
   to a memory region allocated with mmap call using MAP_FILE and
   MAP_SHARED causes a segmentation fault (RS6000 under AIX 3.2) when
   it is done over NFS. Mapping to the same file locally works fine.
   Documentation, as far as I can tell, does not mention
   NFS as a limitation. Is mmap supposed to work over NFS and this is an AIX
   bug, or is it not supposed to work and it is a documentation problem ?

			   Thanx in advance, Ed Gokhman

Ed,
  Using mmap() for NFS files is supported and is supposed to work.  I
would call defect support with the problem to get help through that
channel.  If you can send me short code snippet, I may be able to look
into it.  I am not affiliated directly with defect support.  Just an
interested party.

Spencer

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: senthils@netcom.com (Senthil Sankarappan)
Subject: 'AWK' to 'C' conversion program
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:45:10 GMT


     is there a program available in the market which will convert the
"awk" script into "c" code?

    or is there "awk compiler" available? 

    if there is no "awk compiler", can anybody explain me what is the
theoretical difficulty in having a "awk compiler"?


thanks in advance,
vs senthilkumar
From: laakkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Unix spreadsheets???
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:20:02 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

>For public domain, try :

>sc
>xspread  (X windows extension of sc)

gnu:

oleo 1.0. 

i can't compile it though ... anybody had any success?

-tero
From: snolan@postmaster@hq.af.mil (Scott D Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: grep
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:10:03 GMT
Reply-To: snolan@marge.hq.af.mil
Organization: 7th Communications Group

|> |> |> |> >Actually it's Global Regular Expression Parser.
|> |> |> |> I thought it meant Gorns Rarely Eat People...
|> |> |> Grazing Rabbits Excrete Pellets
|> |> Geraldo Rates Exhibitionist Perverts
|> Geriatric Rhinoceroses Escape Pennsylvania
Governors Regularly Eulogize Perot!

--
Tyson's Corners Mall:  Proof positive that capitolism works,
			despite government!

			- Scott Nolan
From: 873clifton@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How do I get a particualr line of a file?
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:52:35 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov23.094227.1677@ericsson.se>, etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon) writes:
> In article <pec2.722467852@Isis.MsState.Edu>, 
> pec2@ra.msstate.edu (Paul E. Carroll) writes:
> |> This seems extremely simple, but I've run into the problem several times
> |> and gotten stumped each time.  So how do I view a particualr line of a 
> |> file?  Head looks at the top, tail the end, cat - echo - more - or less-
> |> look at the whole thing... but what if I want to see just line 30?
> |> or JUST line 210?  I'm stumped.
> 
> This works for me:
> 
>  eos6c02 tmp 98 > cat -n /usr/etc/termcap | tail +210l | head -1
>    210          :md=\E[1m:mr=\E[7m:mb=\E[5m:me=\E[m:\
> 
> The cat -n is just to insert line numbers of course.
> 

A slightly more efficient way would be:

		> nl -nln | grep '^201'

/D
--
Douglas Clifton [99clifto@lab.cc.wmich.edu]
From: kjj@pondscum.phx.mcd.mot.com (Kevin Johnson)
Subject: Re: How does a mortal become a UNIX WIZARD ?
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, AZ, USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:49:28 GMT

In article <sherman.722312029@foster> sherman@unx.sas.com (Chris Sherman) writes:
>> What does it take for a man, er, person, to become a Unix Wizard ?

> Delete random files and/or directories from the system (like /bin, /usr/bin,
> /etc, /dev) and try to recover.  You will learn a lot about Unix then.
> :-)

Or try logging everyone off, delete /bin/login, then fix it.
Bonus points if the machine is locked in a room that you don't have a key for.
(hypothetically speaking, of course! ;-)
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sysv386
From: apl@world.std.com (Anthony P Lawrence)
Subject: Re: How does a mortal become a UNIX WIZARD ?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:17:07 GMT

haley@husc11.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley) writes:
: mbarkah@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Ade Barkah) writes:
: 
: 
: >What does it take for a man, er, person, to become a Unix Wizard ?
: 
: Seriously, time, and much study.
: Write programs, write device drivers, reconfigure your kernal 1000
: thousand times, to make a little faster or a little more efficient...
: Get a 386 box, and get 386BSD running on it, then go through the code
: for it until you understand how it all adds up.
: Then you will be a *novice* wizard :-)

I bought BSDI's release with exactly the intention of going through
the code.  I expect that if I spend a couple of hours a week (about
all I can spare), I should be getting real good at this just before
I sign up for Social Security :-).

Seriously, it's too much to start from "boot" and follow it on
through.  Theoretically possible, but practically... not.

I have bought and read a lot of Unix books.  The most helpful so far
was Bach's "Design of the Unix OS".  But it isn't exactly a roadmap
to the source code.

Can anyone recommend any other books?

		Tony   apl@world.std.com

Lawrence & Clark, Inc		(617) 762-0707	(206) 323-2864
Xenix/Unix support,etc 	 	 Boston		 Seattle
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Subject: Re: How do I restore Files??
Organization: The College On The Other Side Of Route One
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:41:53 GMT

In article <Bxu9sn.43F@umassd.edu> rolls@cis.umassd.edu (Frank Pinto) writes:
=Hello all
=
=Inadivertadly I "rm" 2 files from my
=usr/ dir.
=How do I restore them?

Ask the system manager to get them from the backup tape.
From: cstaddc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M A Stuart)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Reading in single characters from stdin
Date: 22 Nov 92 05:22:55 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: cumin.csv.warwick.ac.uk



	How can I read in characters from stdin and save the in a variable for
processing as single entities ?


	Any suggestions ?


Mark. (cstaddc@uk.ac.warwick)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions