From: vernon@iadpsa.safe.ia.gov (	Mark Vernon - DSB	)
Subject: Re: Infromation about CAP GEMINI AMERICA.
Organization: Iowa Department of Public Safety
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:00:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.174409.2446@iadpsa.safe.ia.gov> vernon@iadpsa.safe.ia.gov (	Mark Vernon - DSB	) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.032818.1728@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs461a09@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs461a09) writes:
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>>Subject: Looking for info about Cap Gemini America
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>>(Yes, I already looked at the standard sources, there isn't much about them).
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>Eddy.
>>===================================================================
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>>		A WORD OF CAUTION ABOUT CAP GEMINI AMERICA
>>
>>The company is basically a franchise there are total around 20,000
>>employee world wide.  All (or most) of CGA branches are individually owned
>>and locally operated to best of my knowledge.
>
 the company is NOT a franchise CGA is the american arm of Cap Gemini Sogeti - an international IS/Consulting company with yes over 20,000 employees world wide-
while there is not a lot of international exchange of employees - there is quite a bit of loaning of personel amongst the branches in the states. The branches are not individualy owned or operated they are just what they are called - Branch
offices with the home office being in New York (thought the local branch manager
does have quite a bit of independance on houw the branch is run - marketing stra
tagey ect. Cap Gemini Sogeti is a LARGE company - they have groups in France, th
e US, the UK, Germany, Scaninavia, Belgium, Luxemberg, Italy and others, est 
 revenue in 1991 1.774 billion US dollars

>>PLEASE TAKE FOLLOWING CARE IN DEALING WITH THEM
>>
>>(1) The company has some standard procedure about issusing job offer.
 
they do not have standard policies for job offers, each offer is dependant on th current branch situation and the percived value of the canidates skills and experiance.


>>(2) The company calls for first interview in person, second, third and fourth
>>	interviews may be in person or by telephone.  This four interview
>>	process takes about one to three weeks (it is very fast).
>
the number of interviews if variable I had 3 only becaus the Branch Manager was in turkey for an annual business meeting

>>(3) In the last interview they will give you OFFER LETTER SUBJECTED TO they
>>	themselves getting job and/ or CLIENTS approval.
>
 not all offers are contingient - I was hired straight to the bench. and sat for 3 weeks before going to my first client (well not sat - went to IBM training center and took a ton of classes- my choice and got paid for it to boot)

>>(4) PLEASE NOTE getting JOB OFFER LETTER IS NOT SAME AS GETTING JOB.
>>(5) There is nothing wrong about there offer letter.  Only thing is
>>	you may join them in one weeks time or one years time GOD ONLY
>>	KNOWS.
>>(6) Once they give job offer letter they just stop any correspondence
>>	with you.  Then you have to start calling them. They give lot of
>>	real or imaginary promisies (they raise false hope) about you
>>	joining in near future.  DO NOT BELIEVE THEM TILL YOU ACTUALLY JOIN.
>>
>>	(this experience is very much common .  I 
>>	think this might be there corporate policy)
>
 This again is not corporate policy - sounds like you just got hold of a bad recruiter - i had no problem keeping in touch with the branch during my interview period.
 
>>CAP GEMINIE IS A GOOD COMPANY but do not get fooled by there presentation.
>>When my friend asked " YOUR COMPANY IS VERY BIG CORPORATION OF 20,000 EMP."
>>the human resources manager just noded.  The company gave him brochure etc.
>>of there Corp. profile it was misleading.  That particular branch had
>>only 20 employee and no accounting department.  The pay checks come from
>>NEW YORK or from FRANCE I do not recall.
 Yes, the branches do vary in size, Chicago is 150+ while Des Moines is 50, just
 depends on what the market will bear. No there is no accounting dept per se jus
 t 1 or more branch administrators who are responsible for reporting all the
 accounting/payroll info to corporate HQ, and yes the paychecks do come from
 corporate, actually the corp acct offices in Holmdel NJ - so what? been
 with CGA over two years and never had a problem - either Direct deposit or 
 with a real check 
>>
>>	If you get any other offer immediately take it do not wait
>>for this company to send you joining date.  The wait can be 
>>any where from one day to one year.
>>
>>ASK THEM CLEAR CUT WHEN I CAN JOIN YOU "EXACT DATE".
>>
>>Bye.
>
 If you have any questions (I am a Consultant not a recruiter) e-mail me, and I will be glad to answer them


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From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)