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From: rsi@scf16.scf.loral.com (Rich S. Ishikawa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Japanese language schools in the SF/bay area.....
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:09:48 GMT
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Organization: Loral Space and Range Systems, Sunnyvale, CA


Hi!!!!


I was hoping some of you netters would know of some Japanese language
schools in the bay area....    I'm interested in a private/public
school that teaches both conversational and written Japanese.  

The ideal school will have classes in the evenings or early mornings
or possibly on weekends.

Please let me know if you know of any in the SF/Silicon Valley area.



Much thanks,



-Rich



PS.  If you know of any language clubs, that info would be useful too.






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From: ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP)
Subject: Re: USA vs Japan Men's Volleyball in Olympics
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:58:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.014808.9361@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, kanw@cae.wisc.edu (Kan Wang) writes...
>In article <RSI.92Jul29144422@scf16.scf.loral.com> rsi@scf16.scf.loral.com (Rich S. Ishikawa) writes:
>>What I didn't like were the attitudes of the American players.  They
>>seem to think that they're so superior.  The game was really pretty close
>>and I think the Americans were really lucky to have pulled it off.  I 
>>also feel that Americans should learn to lose more graciously like
>>the Japanese players (not the coach) appeared on TV to be able to do.
> 
> Agree strongly, American seems like to blame other if they do not do
>well.  Even if they did bad, they never appreciate the opponents, but
>only hate and denounce the opponents.
> Hope that they know USA is not perfect, no one is perfect in this
>world and no superior race in this world.  If they do, then enjoy
>the fruit some time.

I agree with Mr. Ishikawa.  The unsportsmanlike conduct (mixed with
some silliness) continued when the team re-appeared with their heads
shaven.  But Mr. Wang you should give them a break.  They are young
and they are not perfect.  Although they are placed in a position to
represent the US, they are not the ideal representatives of the US.
I would attribute it to youthful cockiness because they did beat the
Japanese team 4 times before.
> 
>>At least after the defeat, the Japanese were able to shake hands with
>>the American players and accepted the loss in a sportsmanlike fashion.
>>
>>I guess if I were part of the American team, I'd wouldn't mind too
>>much if I lost to a team who played as well as they did, and show 
>>their level of sportsmanship.  The game, afterall, is really between
>>the players and not the coaches or the officials.
>>
>>This is the part of being American I don't particularly like--a
>>very gung-ho attitude about everything.
>
> If American do not change their attitude, I think Bush' dream of 
>strong America will be only a dream forever.
> 
Well I don't think the volleyball team and sports will affect the US
that much!  But actually I like the American go-for-it-all attitude
in sports.  What I don't like is the whining afterwards if you don't
make it.  Even worse is if you are not recognized for the effort you
put in because of the loss!  Compare the general Japanese reaction to
Ito after she got silver in this year's Winter Olympics and the general
reaction to Thomas after she got bronze in the last Olympics.  The
former pointed out all her efforts to win, the latter pointed out that
she did not win (period).  I wonder what will be the reaction in the
US toward Kim Zmeskal?

-- Makoto
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese exprisoners of war
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:43:25 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1992Jul23.171617.3279@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>
>BTW, if treament of prisoners is a legitimate reason to dislike a country, then
>you no doubt have no objection to China, Korea, The Phillipines, the US,
>Australia, Vietnam, Burma, Hong Kong, etc, disliking the Japanese. Their
>treatment of prisoners was as bad as, or worse than, anything the Russians
>did.

   I doubt that the reason for anti-Russia feeling, if there is any, is 
their treatment of Japanese POWs or other WWII-related incidents.
The major reason especially among the post-war generation seems to be the 
fact that the Soviet Union has been an imaginary (and occasionally real) 
enemy of the US. And probably because we've seen many movies and TV programs 
in which Russians are bad guys and good Americans beat them up.
 
Michiaki Masuda
From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: The Kuriles
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:17:08 GMT
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California


	From "The Economist" of July 25-31:

	"...Japanese foreign-ministry officials get hot under the collar
	when asked about Japan's 1951 renunciation of its claim to the
	Kuriles-which include Kunashiri and Etorofu.  To get Stalin to
	attack Japan, the allies had promised the islands to the SOviet Union
	at Yalta in 1945.  Reluctantly, Japan was forced to accept this
	fact when concluding a peace treaty with America in 1951.

	"Documents recently released in Washington apparently show that
	the Americans changed their mind in 1956.  They sabotaged a peace
	treaty being negotiated between Japan and the the Soviet Union by
	threatening not to return Okinawa to Japan unless Japan insisted
	on the return of all four islands.  To encourage Japan to remain at
	odds with the Soviet Union, America has backed Japan's claim to all
	four islands ever since.

	"It is rumored that Russia is thinking of referring the dispute
	over the islands to the International Court of Justice in The Hague.
	Because of Japan's renunciation of its claim to the two bigger
	islands in 1951, Russia might get a favourable ruling.  Then the
	price for their return would soar."

		---- end of quote ----

	- Michael Goldman

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rsi@scf16.scf.loral.com (Rich S. Ishikawa)
Subject: Re: USA vs Japan Men's Volleyball in Olympics
Organization: Loral Space and Range Systems, Sunnyvale, CA
	<1992Jul27.164830.23195@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:44:22 GMT

   in Message-ID: <Bs1DzI.9nG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:26:04 GMT
   kig9584@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kyoko Inoue )   says:
   >
   >I cannot believe what I just saw on the NBC coverage of the Olympics.
   >Men's volleyball between Japan and the U.S. was so bizarre and infuriating
   >that I had to throw in my own opinion about the game.
   >
   >Why did the Japanese coach just let the game go on after the obvious
   >mistake of the judge at the end of the 4th set?  "Do-not-protest-the-
   >judge, it-is-against-sportsmanship" type of attitude is so very much
   >Japanese-like, but it won't lead you anywhere.


Well, I think it was really an officiating mistake.  Even though
the coach should have protested during the 4th game, the rules
seem pretty explicit about the penalty flags.  

What I didn't like were the attitudes of the American players.  They
seem to think that they're so superior.  The game was really pretty close
and I think the Americans were really lucky to have pulled it off.  I 
also feel that Americans should learn to lose more graciously like
the Japanese players (not the coach) appeared on TV to be able to do.

At least after the defeat, the Japanese were able to shake hands with
the American players and accepted the loss in a sportsmanlike fashion.

I guess if I were part of the American team, I'd wouldn't mind too
much if I lost to a team who played as well as they did, and show 
their level of sportsmanship.  The game, afterall, is really between
the players and not the coaches or the officials.

This is the part of being American I don't particularly like--a
very gung-ho attitude about everything.



-RI



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From: Nippon Ecology Network <recycle@igc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:46 PDT
Subject: Re: Japanese Bible RE:
Nf-ID: #R:l78al6INN6bc@nunki.usc.edu:-1021245866:cdp:1473500050:000:855
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!recycle    Jul 27 22:46:00 1992


Kerry,
I don't think offering a Bible is that big a deal.  It's a little
naive to think that the guest-to-be has never been 'exposed' to it,
but I don't think many people are likely to be offended.  I don't
think most people would offer a Bible to dinner guests of any religion,
but if a Muslim exchange student were to stay at my house, I might 
give him one of the sacred books of my religion, and I would be very
happy to receive a Koran in exchange.  I don't think that religion
should be treated as something off-limits in international exchanges.
Part of the reason for exchanges is to share values with
each other.  Why shouldn't this include religion if that is something that 
is valued by one of the parties involved?  
Your comments make me wonder just what kind of experiences you've had
with religious people up to now. :-)
Chris Hirth
Tokyo
From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Explanation
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:17:45 GMT
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California


	Have you ever wondered why it is that after you've carefully explained
	to someone (and the world) at _great_ length why he is completely wrong
	and would be well-advised to be guided by _you_, you never get the expected:
		"You are right - I was wrong - Thanks for pointing out my error?"

	Well, in fact you DO!  BUT!!  The net is run by the US Army (a well known
	front organaisation for the insidious Amalgamated Rice Growers of America)
	and they have installed a filter on the net which automatically catches
	any such reasonable replies and translates them into:
		"Hang it in your grommet you ignorant TWIT !!!  You haven't a clue
		 as to what you're talking about - Don't waste bandwidth with such
		 mindless gibberish!!!"

	or the Japanese equivalent which is:
		"I think we disagree."



	This explains a lot.


	- Michael Goldman

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exhausted all other alternatives." - Abba Eban
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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: non-natives in Japan
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:05:03 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP) writes:

>In article <2102@aegis.or.jp>, davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes...
>>However, as far as I know, people born in Japan aren't citizens
>>(or did I get it wrong again :-) and this is the rub. They been
>>here for generations are still classed as foreigners.
>> 
>True, but they can choose to become Japanese citizens.  The situation
>is similiar in Switzerland.  There are a significant number of foreigners
>from temporary workers to permanent residents (permis C).  All children
>born in Switzerland do not take on Swiss nationality automatically.  When
>they become adults and if they are permanently residing in Switzerland,
>they can then apply for citizenship.

Are you sure that people of Korean ancestry can become Japanese
citizens if they so chose? If so, does it mean they have to give
up their Korean citizenship?

Dave

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From: SHIMOKOSHI@129.69.123.1 (K. SHIMOKOSHI)
Subject: Japanese Radio Program in Europe ?
Summary: Japanese Radio Program in Europe ?
Keywords: Radio
Organization: University of Stuttgart, IND
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:03:24 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20


Hello!

I have heard once that we can listen to japanese radio program (NHK: Nippon
Hoso Kyokai?) in Europe.

Is that true?  If so, whitch day?  What time?  Which channel?  AM or FM?
And how often?

Thanks.

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Univ. of Stuttgart, Germany
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: policewomen may now carry guns
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:02:11 GMT

danac@morc.asd.sgi.com (Dana Crom) writes:

>Charles, have you ever *shot* a handgun?  Except for the monster calibers,
>perceived kick is more a function of the *noise* the pistol makes than
>the actual kick. Yes, weight is a factor, but the standard-issue pistol
>was a 9mm, wasn't it?  My wife, 45 kg and not terribly muscular, can handle
>pistols of this class with no problems, and she only shoots occasionally.
>For that matter, we have a little Beretta Minx in .22 short (less power
>than a .25 auto cartridge!) that we both agree seems to kick harder
>than our full sized .38 revolver.

>Yes, the pistols they are carrying are smaller & easily hidden, but they
>are going to kick as much as the fullsized service pistol, be much less
>accurate, and have about as much stopping power as stabbing them with a
>knitting needle.
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>danac@morc.asd.sgi.com | (415) 390-1449         |  what you've been up to . . .


I have quite a lot of experience with handguns, most of it on a range,
but some of it in more tense circumstances. I have used .22, .25, .38,
9mm, .357, .44magnum, and .45. 

As anyone familiar with the basics of physics (clasical mechanics) could
tell you, the kick is a factor of the mass and velocity of the projectile
divided by the mass of the handgun spread over the time that the force
is excerted. Thus a 9mm plastic/ceramic Glock will probably have more
kick than a heavy framed .45, assuming that they are both automatics.
Note that the automatic uses the motion of the slide to spread the force
of the kick over greater time.

Charlie

P.S. I do own a handgun still, but I do not carry and I keep it securely
locked up in a safe. The purpose of a handgun is to deliver deadly force,
it should not be used as ego/power enablers or as a cure for sexual
disfunction. Most professionals shudder at the thought of the persons
who are walking around armed. The phrase "deliver deadly force" is not
an evasion, but the opposite. It is a recognition of the responsibility
of the individual "tool" user and an attempt to avoid the evasion of
blaming the "tool".


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: policewomen may now carry guns
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:45:10 GMT

danac@morc.asd.sgi.com (Dana Crom) writes:

>Actually, about the same kick.  The 9mm and the .38 special fire almost the
>same size slug at about the same velocities.  The point that I was trying to
>make was that since .25 caliber automatics tend to be tiny, they kick as
>much as the standard police load *in the standard police sidearm*.

The 9mm automatic, and the .38 revolver do not kick the same unless there
is a substantial difference in weight since the operation of the slide
spreads the application of force over time. I have shot 9mm and .38 and
.25 (a very small , wallet size) and I can assure you that the .25 does
not have the kick of the others, not even close!

>The only real advantage the .25 posseses is how easy it is to conceal, but that
>is balanced by its almost nonexistant stopping power.  There is an old joke
>about the .25 that ends "If you shoot me with that thing, and I ever find out
>about it, I'm gonna be real irritated with you."

The stopping power is not that great, but a head shot, a heart shot, or a
major bone hit will stop someone...  exceptions always exist.  I was
shown documentation of a Viet Cong officer who was hit 8!!! times with 
.45 slugs before he stopped attacking. 

>Finally, with training, almost anyone can handle any firearm.

Agreed, but not always safely in "combat situations". A weapon that is much
too heavy will be fired as much as 45% deflected from the actual target,
(so much for bystanders) and one that kicks too much will require too much
time to fire (especially subsequent shots) or will fire wildly after one
good shot.(also not good for bystanders)

>.....................................  This was a medium sized girl,
>certainly no more than 50 kg or so, and she was *enjoying* firing one of
>the heaviest, hardest-kicking, rifles currently available.
>-- 

The kick of a handgun is distributed to the hand and arm , that of a rifle
to the shoulder and body. Also if a rifle (or shotgun) is held properly
and tightly against the shoulder , then the effective mass reacting to
the acceleration is that of the rifle plus that of the upper body.



Charlie

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: janhsu@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Subject: Floppy Disks Borrowed
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 07:18:39 GMT



Quite some time ago, I borrowed some floppy disks (1.44 mb) from a person
somewhere in Utah. These disks contained a Korean version of the macintosh
operating system on them. I'd like to find this person again so I can send
the disks (finally, sorry for the delay). I have been delayed on the machine
for many months. Could that person send me his address and forgiveness?

Thanks =)
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From: wpm@is.morgan.com (W. Phillip Moore)
Subject: Re: Sumo predictions
Organization: Informations Services Dept., Morgan Stanley Japan
	<WPM.92Jul24075317@exile.is.morgan.com>
	<1992Jul24.005159.9448@unixg.ubc.ca>
Distribution: soc
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:24:56 GMT


Phil> No way -- Musashimaru is strong, but he has a *long* way to go before
Phil> he ever comes close to Chiyonofuji.  Musashimaru, like Okebono, wins
Phil> matches because of his superior strength, not always because of
Phil> superior technique.  Both rikishi suffer from this, Akebono more so.

Roy> I agree ... a LONG way to go. Musashimaru and Akebono do great when
Roy> they are in a forward shoving match, but that's it. If their opponent
Roy> sidesteps or twists, M and A (and big K, for that matter) have
Roy> trouble. They win on strength (or weight in K's case), and not much
Roy> technique.

Well, I don't think that's completely fair.  In all three cases, the most
powerful technique they have is pushing, but Musashimaru and Akebono are
not hopeless when they get belt holds.  Akebono used to get wastes when
ever somegot him by the belt, taking advantage of his lack of balancem but
I think he overcome that weakness.

Roy> Most undertall wrestler...  Mainoumi   :-)

Well, unless anyone else can sneak past the 175cm minimum hieght test like
he did, he's going to hold that honor for quite some time.  

Roy> His (few) matches they do show here on NHK's Today's Japan are very
Roy> exciting to watch.

Agreed.  He is consistently the most exciting rikishi to watch.  

Phil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.korean,sci.archaeology
From: woongki@syacus.acus.oz.au (Woong-Ki Chong)
Subject: Re: Mimana Theory Revisted (due to the Nara tombs being excavated)
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 02:54:45 GMT

yjhbhc@dante.lbl.gov (Joe Huang) writes:

>There has also been some mention of Paekche controlling parts of
>the Chinese coast. I've never heard of this, and would like to
>read more details before I'm convinced that this was the case. 
>The indrect inference of Paekche power on the Chinese mainland
>from the supposed impossibility of an attack on the Korea peninsula
>by the Northern Wei (BeiWei, == BugWi in Korean) dynasty seems
>weak, since the BeiWei controlled all of northern China, including
>the coast.

There are other records which more directly testify the presence of Paekche
in the Chinese mainland. For example, according to some of the history books
from the southern Chinese dynasties of Liang and Sung (400-500's AD), namely, 
Liang-Shu (Yang-seo) and Sung-Shu (Song-seo), Paekche seems to have advanced
into the Chinese mainland during the reign of King Geun-cho-go (346-375 AD).
Those history books clearly state that Paekche seized and ruled Liao-shi
(Yo-Seo) and Chin-ping (Jin-pyeong, region around the present day Bei-jing?).

Northern Wei, on the other hand, was founded in 386 AD by Turkic/Mongol people
in the inland region of Shan-shi province and it gradually expanded its domain
eastward into Hopei and Honan areas, and therefore the coastal areas were not
under its control until much later.

The Northern Wei's assault on Paekche is recorded in Nan-Chi-shu (Nam-je-seo,
a history book of Southern Chi, 479-502 AD) as well as in Samgug-Sagi,
a Korean source, and according to these, the assault took place in 490 AD
and the attacking Wei force consisted of several hundered thousand soldiers.

Now, it is quite unlikely that Northern Wei would have dispatched a force
of this magnitude all the way across the Yellow sea to the Korean peninsula
while it had more serious adjoining enemies namely, the Southern Chi and
Koguryo, nor is believable that a naval warfare of this magnitude was indeed
possible.

Further more, the records from Liang-shu and Sung-shu, mentioned above, clearly 
support the theory that the Paekche that Northern Wei attacked, was on the
Chinese mainland.

I think it is more logical to interpret Nothern Wei's war with Paekche as a
process of its eastward expansion into the coastal regions of northern China.



>Joe Huang


Woong-Ki