HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari)
Subject: Re: Numbers On the Balls
Organization: U. Wisconsin-Madison, Robotics Laboratory
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:37:22
In-reply-to: mamohamm@pluto.acs.oakland.edu's message of Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:03:38 GMT

In article <mamohamm.717699818@vela> mamohamm@pluto.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL) writes:

>   I am a relative newcomer to tennis playing (not watching).
>   I recently went to get some new tennis balls and what I 
>   noticed on Penn tennis balls were numbers (8,7,4, etc).
>   Appearently there was nothing mentioned about the numbers
>   outside the box. 
>   So, I was wondering are these numbers indicate the weight, 
>   speed, bounce or any such thing.

Nope. They are used for distinguishing different `sets' of balls.
Imagine the confusion if the neibhouring tennis court also used 
Penn tennis balls without numbers on them. You'll learn to
appreciate the numbering system as you get to play more tennis. 

- Hari

K.R.Harinarayan
Robotics Lab., Dept. of Mech. Engg.
Univ. of Wisconsin, Madison

Fone  : (608) 262-7463, (608) 262 - 9056
e-mail: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu
From: huseby@mars.nr.no (Ragnar Bang Huseby)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Davis Cup History Question
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:18:20 GMT
Organization: /nr/pluto/u3/huseby/.organization

Davis Cup finals 1985:
Wilander d. Westfal 3-0
Becker d. Edberg 3-1
Wilander/Nystrom d. Becker/Maurer 3-0
Becker d. Wilander 3-1
Edberg d. Westfal 3-1

Ragnar Bang Huseby 		

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From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Subject: Re: Davis Cup
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
X-Lunar-Date: 5 days, 3 hrs, 30 mins until the first quarter of the moon (U.T.)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:54:00 GMT

In article <1a448fINN6of@corax.udac.uu.se>, chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson) writes:
>  
> What I meant by my
> "that's America" comment was that American crowds in general seem to make
> a lot of noise even during the actual play.

There's always some moron somewhere who thinks s/he's contributing something by
yelling "Go, Pete!" or "Right, Andre!" just when the player is about to serve. 
I wish they would realize that they're more of a distraction (esp. at a crucial
time like the serve) than encouragement.

But if you were wondering if your Swedish team felt lost and lonely, don't
worry!  There were a few bunches of Scandinavian fans (even some Norwegian
flags), of course with painted faces and horned helmets, who made up for their
small numbers by being extremely vocal. :-)  The general audience was pretty
much unbiased during the last two matches when the US had already won, and
Edberg was clearly a crowd favorite always (he got a big hand whenever he
showed up on court).

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
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From: haas@wam.umd.edu (The Future Mr. Graf)
Subject: Re: Steffi Graf is NOT a bitch!!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 12:30:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.203612.3241@onetouch.COM> phil@onetouch.COM (Philip D. Turner) writes:
>shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep24.032423.18659@wam.umd.edu> haas@wam.umd.edu (The Future Mr. Graf) writes:
>>>Since I can't get Anne to stand up for Steffi, I guess I'll have to do 
>>>it.
>
>>>                                       Anne... Help me!!
>
>>If you are expecting Anne Dolce to help you in this group, you may be
>>wasting your time. She is so turned off by the ridiculous articles
>>here and has unsubscribed to it, at least for now. What really upset
>>her was precisely that article which made totally unfounded attacks on
>>Steffi Graf.
>
>It's sad to see someone who has made positive contributions to a
>newsgroup drop it because of all the idiots out there that don't
>want to talk about the tennis the sport but instead want to speculate
>about the personalities of tennis.
>
>Phil Turner					phil@onetouch.COM

     I am sorry she is gone too.  I have been talking to her on this 
newsgroup for a long time, and I respect her opinion more than anyones,
even Bud Collins!  8-)  I do, however, feel that opinions about a players
personal life, attitudes, relationships, etc. have a place in this 
conference.  Ok, maybe the posts of the past couple of weeks got WAY out
of hand, but I don't think that we should dismiss them altogether.
This is a news group about tennis.  If you want to start subdividing this
group, we can start groups like REC.SPORT.TENNIS.GRIPS and 
REC.SPORT.TENNIS.SCORES and REC.SPORT.TENNIS.BABE.  Who's to say that
the conversations about the female players are any more or less annoying
than those about foot faults or which string to use.  I'm happy with 
my strings, so should I unsubscribe to this group because I'm sick and
tired of hearing about whether VS Gut is better than Prince Topspin?
I would like Anne to come back, and I promise to keep things down, but I 
can't say that I'm inclined to post anymore for fear that somebody will
get annoyed with my topic and unsubscribe.  That's alot of pressure...

                                            Jeffrey

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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Depth in women's tennis (was Re: IN DEFENSE OF STEFFI GRAF)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 19:13:24 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)

   While one might say that the women's field is "deeper", the top five 
or six women are still head and shoulders above the rest of the
field.  Two or three of the top (Seles, Graf, and to some extent,
Capriati) can do it by sheer power alone.  In men's tennis, lower
ranked players can also have power shots, too, but lack the
consistency.  Most often, it is their serve that is the weapon.
The lower ranked women don't have the kind of power that the top
do, and so it's hard to surprise the top ranked women.

   Until women's tennis produces someone who can really serve well
(and some are getting there, which would be something unexpected
if you looked back ten or more years ago) and perhaps volley well,
or someone like a Michael Chang who can scramble for the hard
hit shots (Arantxa is roughly in this category), we may see the
power players continue to dominate, and only be replaced by other
power players.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
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From: ritat@athena.mit.edu (Rita Tendolkar)
Subject: Re: Edberg's GrandSlams
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:09:28 GMT

In article <5787@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>, mliu@aspen.ucsb.edu (Liu;Mei-Ling;L.;CS Grad Student;;COMS;Graduate;930630;;500) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep27.171722.15719@nmsu.edu> ssubrama@dante.nmsu.edu (SUBRAMANIAM) writes:
|> >Hi Netters,
|> >	I keep seeing these articles that say that Edberg won a grand slam
|> >tournament every year.  How many years in a row is it?  I know that Edberg won a
|> >couple of Australian opens many years ago, he won Wimbledon in 1988 and 1990, 
|> >U.S. open in 1991 and 1992.  This means that he did not win any grand slam 
|> >tournament in 1987, 89.  When did he win Australian open?
|> Yes, there's some confusion about this.  He didn't win any in 1989: that
|> was the year when he lost to Michael Chang at the French Open, and was
|> also a runner-up at Wimbledon.  His Autralian titles were won in 1986 and 87, I
|> believe, and he could have won again in 1990 if not for an injury that
|> caused him to stop playing against Landl in the final.
|> 
|> M. Liu

Are you of theses dates? I am pretty sure that he won in 87.
I also think that his victories were 2 years apart. 
This means he won in 85 or 89.

-RT
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From: yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au (Michael Hanslip)
Subject: Re: Spaghetti stringing/McEnroe's racket tension
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:34:10 GMT

vinlai@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (vincent.lai) writes:

>When I was watching a brief history of the US Open, I heard of how Stan
>Smith was upset by some unknown who strung his racket in an unusual
>way.  Subsequently, "spaghetti stringing" was banned from all
>tournaments.  

Spagheti stringing uses paired main strings, each one going the opposite way
over the crosses. There are fewer strings in both directions I believe, and
the tension, as you mention, is supposed to be low. I remember hearing someone
(Drysdale, or Stolle?) mention at a tournament broadcast that certain
companies were experimenting with such styles for new-tech racquets for 
weekend hackers only. Time will tell I guess.

>I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with the term.  It sounds like a stringing
>style that hovers around 10-20 lbs.  That brings me to McEnroe, who
>strings his rackets at 44 lbs. 

>Has anybody strung their racket that loosely?  I vaguely remember that
>Warren Bosworth contended that optimal power AND control could be
>achieved by going DOWN in tension.  Any thoughts?

In my squash racquet, by experimentation, I finally settled on 17 pounds 
tension, a lot less than I use in my badminton racquet. One pro stringer
thought I was nuts, and suggested that 28 or 30 was a logical tension
for that racquet. By using 2 and switching tensions on one versus the other,
I got to 17 after a sequence.
When my second Dunlop Revelation Pro 90 arrives next week, I will start the 
process with them. I dropped the tension to the minimum recommended of 55
right off the bat with the one I have, and it feels as though I will end
up going lower. Time will tell here as well. I would bet it won't be higher!

Michael Hanslip
yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au
--
Michael Hanslip
yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au  -  mdh410@csc.anu.edu.au
From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: who won...
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:57:16 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <BvEICw.Mxs@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> kwfrackl@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (SCOOP-meister) writes:
>Who won the "Battle of the sexes"?

Billy Jean King. But that was almost 20 years ago; I am surprised
that you still haven't found out the results. :-) :-)

Oh, you mean the Martina-Connors hype match?
Connors d. Navratilova 7-5, 6-2.

But they both won because they both made a lot of $$. :-)
-- 
-- Shun Cheung,    electronic: shun.cheung@att.com    voice: (908) 615-5135
     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA
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From: claypool@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok H. Lee)
Subject: Re: RACQUET RECOMMENDATIONS
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:14:01 GMT


pacyna@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Michael Pacyna) writes:
: My girlfriend is in search of a new tennis racquet (she does not have
: access to the net).  She is an avid player with good skill level and
: is looking at replacing her old Wilson Sting.
: 
: She would like a wide body racquet, midsize,  that would allow her more
: control with no real sacrifice in power.
: 
: I would appreciate any personal recommendations or sugeested sources
: in looking for a new racquet.
: 
: Thanks in advance.
: 
: 			   Mike


I suggest the Profile midsize.  I have tried the Profile oversize and
I found it to be overly powerful and uncontrollable, besides being
very stiff.  I have played with both the Sting and Profile mid and I
think they play very similarly, though the Profile holds an edge in
power.  Although the Profile Mid is powerful, it is a controllable power.


Hyok Lee

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From: hole@netcom.com (Will Leland)
Subject: Ball Machine?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:02:01 GMT

Is there a portable ball machine that I can buy - and where?
Can they be rented?
From: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Richard Beckett)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 08:33:29 GMT
Subject: Diagonal Stringing.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Reply-To: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com

	Is there any reason why one couldn't string an ordinary racquet
	diagonally ?


	Cheers,


		RIK


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From: law40003@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN YEW KEONG)
Subject: Re: Tennis Raquet reccomendations
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 04:44:42 GMT

Get the Classic II. Read my article at alt.tennis. By the way, anyone
got any technical specifications on the Classic II? I got the racket
after a year long love-hate relationship with the Thunderstick, it feels
and plays real good, but I really would like the specs. Thanks!
From: smuench@i61s6.ira.uka.de (Stefan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Graf, Leipzig, line call
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:23:44 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: i61s6.ira.uka.de


Hi,

the controversal line call was not controversal,
according to the words of the !!german!! TV-commentator.
In the last set there wasn't a break until Graf lead
5-4, Novotna served. I can't remember if it was 30-all
or deuce (it's in principle the same, so don't mind),
when a forehand shot of "Miss Forehand" S. Graf clearly
missed the line, but the lines man (or lines woman) didn't
call it out. So this was the matchpoint for her, and she
didn't need more than this one.

In my opinion, she didn't deserve to win a tournament
(not a match!) that way. And the match was really open
in the last set, so it could've been a real thriller if not...


Bye, Stefan
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: who won...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:42:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.131120.359@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> ratte@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de (  Cordula Reineke  ) writes:

>Shun wrote, both took along lots of $$.
>Thought it was a winner-takes-all-match?

The US$500K prize money was winner take all, but Jimmy and Martina
reportedly received some $500K "appearance fee" each. And I would
imagine that they would get a piece of the pay-per-view revenue, etc.
I also noticed that the match was televised in (certain parts of)
Europe as well.

I guess it is winner take all, but the winners include Connors,
Martina and the match organizer. :-)
-- 
-- Shun Cheung,    electronic: shun.cheung@att.com    voice: (908) 615-5135
     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA
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From: jcheng@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Juh-En Cheng)
Subject: Looking for tennis partners at Stanford
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: su
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 08:34:43 GMT

Hi! I'm looking for tennis partners to hit with once in a while either 
after class or during weekends.  My skill level is probably around a 
NTRP 3.0-3.5 rating.  Please email or call if interested. 

Joseph
jcheng@leland.stanford.edu 
(415)-497-7633
From: knies@cs.purdue.EDU (Allan Knies)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Modern Rackets
Keywords: power, size, weight
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:56:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ector.19869
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

There seems to have been a sparse thread on tennis racket
recommendations lately...

Does anyone else have problems with modern rackets being 
too big, too powerful, and having too low a string density?

I've played with Head TXEs for many years
and before that an old wooden Jack Kramer (I don't switch
rackets too often).

For example, I looked over some rackets at a sports store
last year and couldn't find any rackets whose head was as
small as my TXE. In fact, it was difficult to find a racket 
with <= 90 square in.  I find that rackets with large rackets 
to be too powerful and difficult to control (I don't need the
racket to generate power for me).

Something else I have noticed is that bigger frames do not
have the string density that my old Jack Kramer had. I break
tons of strings and would be interested in a racket that had
a higher string density to help prevent so much "notching" of
my strings. The Kramer actually has more cross and main strings
that my TXE (which has a somewhat larger head).

Any comments? Suggestions?

Allan Knies
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From: mamohamm@pluto.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL)
Subject: Numbers On the Balls
Keywords: Penn
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:03:38 GMT

I am a relative newcomer to tennis playing (not watching).
I recently went to get some new tennis balls and what I 
noticed on Penn tennis balls were numbers (8,7,4, etc).
Appearently there was nothing mentioned about the numbers
outside the box. 

So, I was wondering are these numbers indicate the weight, 
speed, bounce or any such thing.

Any reply or post will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

-- 
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She Sells Sea Shells on a Sea Shore
Speculating about speculation is pure  SKEPTICAL
From: lego@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Martin Lee Group)
Subject: Medvedev Re: ATP Men's Ranking: September 27
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:43:05 GMT

In article <gate.1mcuRB1w165w@knex.Gwinnett.COM> gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM writes:
>The ATP top 50 ranked singles players:  
>    (Through September 27th)
>
> 1. Stefan Edberg, Sweden, 3,577
> 2. Jim Courier, United States, 3,574
> 3. Pete Sampras, United States, 3,442
> 4. Michael Chang, United States, 2,447
> 5. Goran Ivanisevic, Croatia, 2,103
> 6. Andre Agassi, United States, 2,067
> 7. Petr Korda, Czechoslovakia, 2,066
> 8. Boris Becker, Germany, 1,944
> 9. Ivan Lendl, United States, 1,831
>10. Wayne Ferreira, South Africa, 1,806
>
>28. Andrei Medvedev, Russia, 921
>                     ^^^^^^
 should be                     Kiev, UKRAINE

Tennis magazine features him as the biggest mover of the
month ( from 100 to 40 )

He is also the first qualifier ever to win an ATP tournament
( in Stuttgart )

For those who dont know, he  
is the younger brother of
Natalia Medvedeva ( also in top 30 of women classification )
and only 18 years old.


V.Smelyansky
From: probal@brushfire.rutgers.edu (Probal Kumar Bhattacharjya)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Edberg's GrandSlams
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:05:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Though Edberg won his Australians in 1985 and 1987, they were back to back
as in 1985 it was held in December and in 1987 it was held in January and 
obviously there was none in 1986 !
	--P.
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From: fam7w@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Farid A. Masood)
Subject: shoes
Originator: fam7w@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:08:44 GMT

-- 
Fred Masood 
Graduate Student, Department of Systems Engineering
University of Virginia
tele: (804) 295-6001   e-mail fam7w@virginia.edu
From: ab29+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anil N. Balchandani)
Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market,rec.sport.tennis
Subject: WANTED:DONNAY BORG PRO RACKET
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:42:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Aeo71cS00iUy42z4Uj
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi there,
    I am in need of a Donnay Borg Pro tennis racket.  Its the old one
that Bjorn Borg used in his hay-days.  If anyone has one and wants to
get rid of it, I would love to buy it.
    Please reply to this account.


Best Regards,
Anil N Balchandani.

(363-2729) || (ab29@andrew) || (samy@ece.cmu.edu)
|| (anilb@frc.ri) || (aneel@arc.cmu.edu)


Best Regards,
Anil N Balchandani.

(363-2729) || (ab29@andrew) || (samy@ece.cmu.edu)
|| (anilb@frc.ri) || (aneel@arc.cmu.edu)
From: eddie@chpc.utexas.edu (Eddie Hedges)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Davis Cup final times and phone #'s
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:39:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas System CHPC


 I called the Texas Tennis Association here in Austin and they gave me
the following info. I hope it's correct.

The final will be held in Forth-Worth, Texas Dec. 4-6 1992. Friday at 2:30pm
Sat. at 2pm and Sun. at 1pm. The ticket prices begin at $60.00 and go
quite high. To purchase tickets and get info (I suppose) you can call
the two numbers listed below. I think she said the places are Rainbow
ticket Masters.

Dallas, Texas # 1-800-725-7200
Houston, Texas # 1-800-275-2000

Eddie
-- 
Eddie Hedges          
eddie@chpc.utexas.edu
From: mliu@ucsb.edu (Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Wanted:- U.S. Open Video
Keywords: U.S. Open Video
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:22:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara

Hello:

If anyone out there has video tape of any of the Edberg matches in
the U.S. Open and don't need it any more, please send me e-mail.
Let's talk.

M. Liu

mliu@ucsb.edu
From: mliu@ucsb.edu (Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Tournament Question
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:53:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara

Hello:
There are (among others) 2 men's tournaments coming up: The Australian Indoor 
and the Seiko Challenge (in Tokyo).

What is the surface in each case?

Thanks.

M. Liui
From: bnataraj@uceng.UC.EDU (Bhaskar Natarajan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: More Davis Cup news please!
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:21:26 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati, Engineering College

In article <26SEP199220552143@moose.cccs.umn.edu> rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu writes:


>India vs. Britain (in New Delhi, India):
>	Leander Paes, India, d. Jeremy Bates, Britain:
>		6-2, 6-7 (3-7), 7-5, 6-1
>	Ramesh Krishnan, India, d. Mark Petchey, Britain:
>		6-3, 3-6, 6-3, 6-7 (2-7), 6-1
>	Ramesh Krishnan and Leander Paes, India, d.
>	Mark Petchey and Neil Broad, Britain:
>		6-4, 3-6, 6-4, 6-1
>(India wins, leading 3-0)

	Good Show, India. Excellent work, Leander.
	Does anyone know the ranking of Leander Paes ? For those who have
not heard of him, Paes is a young Indian tennis hope ( age 20 ?), who
seems to do better in Davis Cup matches than in pro. tournaments. He has
won the junior Wimbledon ( and one other junior Grand Slam event (?)) a
few years ago. I think he is the decent player (for this decade) that India
somehow produces once in ten years or so.
	
BTW, if it is not too early, who does India face next ?

Thanks,
Bhaskar.

p.s.: Ramesh looks like he's gone over the hill, judging from the tough time
      he had against Petchey. 
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