HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: krk1@pyuxe.uucp (24228-knights)
Subject: Re: QL: THE NOVEL
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 12:13:40 GMT

> I can't comment on the book as I'm only up to Thursday in it, but...
> consider what this could lead to - an entire series of books based
> on Quantum Leap, ala Star Trek and Star Trek The Next Generation.
> 
> Probably with the same range of quality and continuity 8-) .
> 
> If we could just get Peter A David interested.

Or somebody who really KNOWS and CARES about the show.  At this point,
there are ST and ST-TNG books out there that are very well-written,
and which appeal to the fans enough to kick them onto the best-seller
list.  This is probably because they're written by people like
Peter David, Vonda McIntyre and Greg Bear, who
are first and foremost good writers, and secondly are fans of the show.

I think a WELL-WRITTEN novel series would be great for QL.
Novels could explore leaps we could NEVER see on TV because
of the censors and the budget.  

BTW, I haven't read (or even seen) the book yet, but I intend
to so that I can come to my own conclusions.
-----
Katriena Knights
"I don't mind being in touch with reality, as long as I don't 
have to live there."
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From: elw@cup.portal.com (Edward Lee Whiteside)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Babylon 5 News (Composer, Series, Newsletter, Magazines)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:57:08 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

A few bits of news from J. Michael Straczynski via GEnie.

1.  Contracts have been signed with the composer who will do the pilot movie
    and the series.  It is Stewart Copeland, formerly with The Police.  
    He's done music for The Equalizer and movies (including "Rumblefish").

2.  J. Michael Straczynski has resigned from his producer post on the
    top rated "Murder, She Wrote".  Since nothing official has been 
    announced on Warner Bros. commitment to a series of Babylon 5, Joe's
    resigning from a top rated series is a good indication he is going to
    be very busy soon.

3.  The latest issue of Starlog Spectacular has several pages of pictures
    from Babylon 5, including a poster of the Babylon 5 space station.
    It should be hitting book stores and comic shops any day now (if it 
    hasn't already).

4.  The latest issue of Cinefantastique has a two page article on Babylon 5,
    with other pictures.

5.  Once again, the official Babylon 5 newsletter is going to press this 
    week.  If you would like to get a copy of the FREE first issue (I don't
    know what their plans are for additional ones), send your name and
    address on a postcard to :

    Christy Marx, Editor
    Babylon 5 Newsletter
    P.O. Box 2325
    Oakhurst, CA
    93644


Lee Whiteside      P14942@email.mot.com (send email here!)
                   elw@cup.portal.com  (if the first one bounces)
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From: cmcg@fmd01.larc.nasa.gov (Catherine McGinley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Who Al sees
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:15:42
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA, USA
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In-reply-to: jrjj@moscom.com's message of 15 Oct 92 13:03:15 GMT


In the beginning Sam inhabited the peoples bodies and
Al saw the people instead of Sam.  He saw Sam's body in the
waiting room.  I think this made too many people uncomfortable
or they just decided it worked better the other way, but they
(the writers and producers) changed it so that Sam 
brought his body with him and just had the people's
aura surrounding him.  And Al sees Sam as Sam now and 
not as the people he lept into.  There is no point in 
trying to make sense of it.  It was poor planning.
--
 Cathy
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander: The Series
Date: 10 Oct 92 03:50:10 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Oct9.230024.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>(As an ex-fencer) I thought all the sword fighting was pretty silly...

>If either of them had done that "cute" little spin move against me...they'd
>be DEAD!

Well, they *ARE* immortal... anything you could do short of cutting off
their head wouldn't make much difference.  A blow through the heart would
probably only slow them down for a moment, and even if you were able to
chop off the odd arm or leg it wouldn't be worse than a flesh wound.

Hmm... wonder if the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail was
one of these Immortals?...
From: mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Prememption
Date: 13 Oct 1992 23:42:28 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) writes:

>In article <ja29675@pro-amber.cts.com> rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki) writes:

>>Yes, I guess a TV show is more important then getting information so one can
>>make an educated choice in Nov. is more important. 

>Ah, but you're missing the point. QL is being pre-empted for the VICE
>presidential debate. Do we _need_ any more information on who the more
>competent *vice* presidential candidate is? I don't think so.

Okay anyone that's heard ANYTHING new in the debates raise your hand.

Really, the debates would impress me if I could learn from them, but
it seems to be the same old song and dance.

OH -- by the way, did anyone count the number of times George says
that we can't have any more of this "TAX AND SPEND" on Sunday.  I was
getting sooooooo tired of hearing that phrase - and I missed the first
1/2 hr. of the debate.

(This is NOT to say that Bill and H. Ross didn't repeat themselves a
few times either)

--
I never met a chocolate I didn't like.
  -- Deanna Troi, ST:TNG

    Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
Catx2 Owned, Square Dancer, Leaper, Ballroom Dancer in training 
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap?
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:30:48 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:

>In article <1992Oct15.211032.16052@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
>>Voting YES for a newsgroup is the same as saying "I like this group, and
>>plan on reading it if it is created."

>Nonsense.  Voting yes for a newsgroup means you want it created.  Nothing
>else.

    I have had this discussion with a great many people, most of whom
were on the committee that got the current Guidelines established, and
what I staed above is what they intended a Yes vote to represent. I used
to hold the same views as Ken, here, but too many people who have been
on the net longer than I have (going on 8 years for me) have told me
otherwise.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
  "I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid on. Could you repeat that?"
			  -Admiral Stockdale-
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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Highlander: The Series
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:14:13 GMT

ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:


>I thought the sword fight scenes were very well done.


I thought the practice fights between the MacLeods were *very* good.

I thought Richard Moll's swordfighting was pathetic and I got tired of
them speeding up the film to make him look better.

To be fair though, a person wielding a *large* broadsword is going to
look slower than one with a samurai sword.

-- 

All the demands made by the Quebec Nationalists can be summed up in
just one: keep giving us new powers and the money to exercise them, or
we'll leave -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau , 1992

Each new ransom paid to stave off the threat of schism will simply
encourage the master blackmailers to renew the threat and double the
ransom -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau , 1992

schuck@sfu.ca              Vote No on October 26th
  
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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Subject: Re: Highlander: Series and third movie
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:42:17 GMT

In article <10873@cayman.COM> mccoy@cayman.com (Michael McCoy) writes:
>
>- The first episode made several references to the "Old Ones," with an 
>implication that they were some sort of supervisory council for conflicts 
>between the immortals. (For example, Duncan told Conor he obtained 
>permission from the Old Ones to build his cabin on sacred ground.) The 
>existence of the Old Ones raises some interesting questions about the 
>origins of the immortals and the framework in which they compete.
>

I got the impression that Duncan was referring to the tribes elders.

After all, he'd probably met they when they were the "Young Ones" and
they considered Duncan special since he hadn't aged.

Being special, they'd let him live on holy ground.

Flip


-- 
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From: arkhive@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Ailsa Jenkins)
Subject: Covington Cross 
Distribution: world
Organization: QLA - Quantum Leap Anonymous
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:50:46 +0000


In article <Bvo4H1.8vo@apollo.hp.com> @apollo.HP.COM writes:

> 
> I must admit that I have only seen 2 episodes of the show. However, I think
> it has a lot of potential. The concept is good. But the writing needs some>  work.
> I must admit that last Sat's show was hysterical (IMHO) 
> 
> Hopefully, the writers will learn a little more about the period.
> 
>         --Jennifer
>         jlevine@apollo.hp.com
> 
> 
____________________________________________________________________
Ailsa R Jenkins (arkhive@apusapus.demon.co.uk)
134 Frankland Road, Croxley Green, RICKMANSWORTH, Herts, WD3 3AU, UK

`I got me a mirror, and looked at my face and said, "Ain't life a bitch."'
    Ted Klausterman in "3 Guys Naked from the Waist Down"

 Gun till do cheum, as gach cearn, fo rionnag-iuil an dachaidh.
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander: Series and third movie
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:56:40 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <10873@cayman.COM> mccoy@cayman.com (Michael McCoy) writes:
>bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>
>>In Highlander, Ramirez tells Connor
>>something like, "You're safe only on
>>holy ground.  It's tradition.  None of
>>us will violate that."  The immortals
>>don't attack each other on
>>holy ground because they WON'T,
>>not because they CAN'T.
>
>Two problems with this (one from the movie, one from the series):

Well, I ignored the one from the series, since I think it's an
abomination to associate it with the movie.  Plus, most of the
points I could make about the Old Ones being from the Indian
tribe, not the immortals, were already made by other people.

>- Kurgen didn't strike me as the type to obey traditions that were clearly 
>contrary to what he wanted. My sense was that he would have suffered 
>some sort of major sanction if he had tried to engage MacLeod in the 
>church (or vica versa).

Possibly.  However, Ramirez states with complete certainty that
none of the immortals will violate the tradition (he also refers
to it as a law, which I forgot when I posted the original 
article).  That includes Kurgen.  For whatever reason, Kurgen
WOULDN'T violate the holy ground, not COULDN'T.  In fact, the
only scene in the movie that demonstrates the immortals not
attacking each other on holy ground is when Connor almost
attacks Kurgen in a church.  Kurgen certainly didn't go into
the church to kill Connor, even though it would have been
easy for him to do so.  One could say that Kurgen couldn't
kill Connor there.  Fine.  However, when Connor leaves, he
says to Kurgen "I'll be out front."  So why doesn't Kurgen
go right out and kill Connor then?  He doesn't even try to
find Connor then!  It seems like Kurgen was waiting for
something, although I really couldn't say what.  Maybe he
wanted to torture Connor first by getting Brenda?

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Quanum Leap: THE NOVEL
Date: 7 Oct 1992 12:27:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) says:

>
>	I've just finished reading the new and first Quantum Leap novel.
>I REALLY liked it, but I was wondering if anyone else had any comments.
>IMHO, McConnell did an outstanding job of bringing the excitement and drama
>of the t.v. show to the bookshelves.

I also enjoyed the book a great deal.  I've read the other posts
saying it's mucking around with set facts but isn't that what we do
everytime we write our own QL story.  I thought it was well written
and had some very good ideas in it.  And since it is authorized by
Universal, it can't be all that far off base.  Not that I really care.
I liked it, others didn't.  Form your own opinion.

The Prologue and Epilogue were some of the most beautiful prose I've
ever read.  Very poetic.


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             Beth Hlabse    eah4@po.CWRU.Edu     Assistant Sysop
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From: finifter@remus.rutgers.edu (tracy e. finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL in TV Guide
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:22:52 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

TV Guide had an article this week about how television and film have
exploited and "Hollywoodized" John F. Kennedy, and they used QL's
season opener as their primary example.

In it, Harry Stein criticized (at least that's the impression I got)
Bellesario's belief that Oswald was the lone gunman.  (I don't want to start
a conspiracy debate, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion).

The article goes on to say that since TV is meant to entertain, we root
for Sam/Oswald to win a barroom brawl but that this is "an act of gross
insensitivity".

The article also says that while JFK had his flaws (such as being a womanizer
and having links to the mob) the media spends far too much time concentrating
on them than on the man who inspired "would-be careerists into Peace Corps
volunteers".



Obviously, this man is not a regular viewer of the show.  Lest he forget
"Camikaze Kid" where part of Sam's mission was to convince Cheryl to leave
her fiance so she could persue her dream to "answer Kennedy's call to ask
not what your country could do for you, but what you could do for your
country."  Nor did he even see "Nuclear Family", where perhaps Kennedy's
greatest military moment set the stage for the episode.

True, Hollywood has spent far too much time capitalizing on Kennedy's flaws,
but Quantum Leap isn't one of them.  Actually, what "Lee Harvey Oswald" had
to do with Stein's complaints is beyond me.  All "LHO" was supposed to do
was to present one man's interpretation of a historical event.  The
personality or actions of Kennedy did not come into play at all.

Oliver Stone and Donald P. Bellesario both have the right to say what they
think happened on November 23, 1963.  In their respective works, that's all
they were trying to do.  Bellesario went further, trying to do more of a
character study on the man he believes shot Kennedy and a man he knew
(albeit briefly).  I wish people would look more closely at what they were
criticizing before they started doing so.



-- 
*********************************
 Tracy E. Finifter                         "Life is what happens to you while
  finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu              you're busy making other plans."
  Douglass College, Rutgers University                          - John Lennon
From: ANTHONYS@ucrvm2.BITNET ("Anthony R. Sanchez")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Highlander
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:27:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: rutgers.9210150227.AA05185


    About the Old Ones, I think Duncan was talking about the Indian Witch Docto
rs or something like that, but I do think there must be somekind of ruling body
 or at least an inner directive that makes the Inmortals respect Holy Ground.
One good question is what exactly is Holy Ground?  Do they respect all mayor
religions, small ones, cults?  Somehow they must ALL agree upon these places.
    I think    another thing people are forgeting is their age.  We all talk
about powers, acumulative or not, but how about the power of intelect that must
grow after having centuries of life's experience to draw upon.  The power of
agility and practice.  I don't know anything about fencing, but in the  fights
I do look for agility and sureness of movement.  I didn't like the first episod
e because Duncan and the villian (what was the idiot's name?) moved too stiffly
.  And they can never be stupid.
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv,news.groups
Subject: Re: Purpose of votes (was: rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap?)
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:15:19 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn) writes:

>What about the people who vote no?  What is that all about?  What are
>(in personal opinons, of course) acceptable and good reasons for voting
>no?  

>"I don't agree with the name?"  
>"I don't want it if it's going to be moderated?"  
>"I think the topic does not have the staying power to warrant a group?"
>"Another group already does this?"

    All of these are valid reasons to vote no. Generally, if you really
couldn't care less, then, IMHO, you should just not vote.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
  "I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid on. Could you repeat that?"
			  -Admiral Stockdale-
From: ecy001@cck.coventry.ac.UK (Mark "F." Bailey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: War of the Worlds
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:02:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cck.16488.9210081940

Does anybody know of an episode list for the "War of  the  Worlds"
tv series that is available by FTP. 
I looked on ftp.coe.montana.edu but I could not find one.

-- 
Mark Bailey          ecy001@cck.cov.ac.uk
Coventry University
United Kingdom.
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From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Subject: Re: QL: My Evil Leaper Theory
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:34:52 GMT

In article <1bc23iINN3uj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:

(I said it would air during November sweeps)

>It's supposed to air on October 27.  I think we have another
>Halloween episode coming up.

Hope it doesn't have the same effect as the last one. :-) But it seems
a logical idea, and works as far as the evolution of this particular
story idea went.

Guess that leaves sweeps free for the 3-parter.

(checks calendar) Hey, wait a minute, Beth, we could BOTH be right.
October 27 _may_ be the beginning of November sweeps. I know that
doesn't make sense, but that's networks for you. The {November,
February, May} sweeps actually start a few days previous to the first
of the month they're named for, and thus end a few days before said
month is over. For instance, I think Cosby's final show was in May,
but after sweeps had ended. Or was that Carson's? Well, anyway, I
remember thinking at the time that NBC wouldn't have been happy about
that scheduling fact.

My apologies for the lack of QL content in this message. :-)

Sally

-- 
Sally Smith (510)790-0608  sallylb@netcom.com (I was sally@tardis.tymnet.com)
I'm unemployed--these opinions *must* be mine!
"Don't investigate this too closely." -- Don Bellisario, re: "Quantum Leap"
From: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: QL: NOwhere to Run (Possible Spoilers)
Date: 7 Oct 1992 12:42:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
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Now this is Quantum Leap.  The QL that I've been waiting to see.
Great acting of some absolutely wonderful scenes by both Scott and
Dean.  It wasn't Don spouting his agenda and it wasn't fluff (which I
still think is okay, just not every week).  Tommy Thompson wrote an
absolutely beautiful episode.


Possible minor spoilers...




Okay, so we now know for certain that it's Sam's body, not his soul,
karma, whatever, that's travelling through time.  Al sees Sam as Sam
and the person in the Waiting Room as that person.  I can live with
this.

I was waiting for the scene where Sam stood up and knocked that
nozzle on the floor.  The only thing that could have made that
more enjoyable was if it had been one of the Beckett Flying Noodle
Kicks (tm).

The scene in the bar between Sam and his "wife" was great.  All
I could think of was Al going through the same thing with Beth.
And the scene with Al bedside, talking about how they won't be
forgotten and that there's a wall now with all the names of the
victims of the war and "please, don't put another one there."
I was in tears.

I loved this episode and is one that I know I'll be able to watch
again and again.


Next week....




Sam's on the wrong side of the law and there's trouble back at the 
Project.  Looks like it's going to be another good one.


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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Need for sf.tv other newsgroups FAQ
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 05:57:18 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

An opinion!!

I know of groups like rec.arts.drwho, alt.tv.prisoner, alt.fan.red-dwarf as
independent groups of there own.  Are there any others?  Are there votes for
spinoffs newsgroups going on?  Why not FAQ the above information??!!

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Canadians: send a clear message to the government!  ON Oct. 26, Abstain
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From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: Re: QL: My Evil Leaper Theory
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:11:12 GMT

Hey...when do we actually SEE this EL anyway???  If it were to be a semi
recurring thing Id expect its first appearance any leap now.

-- 
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   $37k with a 10% downpayment."