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From: kim@oasys.dt.navy.mil (John Kim)
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Subject: Re: Korean
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:05:36 GMT
Reply-To: kim@oasys.dt.navy.mil (John Kim)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Annapolis, MD

In bit.listserv.deaf-l, yckim@SORAK.KAIST.AC.KR (KAERI Kim YongChe) writes:
>Annie,
>
>  ** Korean is not a tonal language. **
>
   ===     stuff deleted    =====
>
>Yong Che  <yckim@sorak.kaist.ac.kr>

    Hi,   Could anyone tell me what is the definition of "tonal language"

mean? I think I miss this somewhere.

John Kim
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:25:28 -0400
From:         Miriam Clifford <DMIMI@ECSVAX.BITNET>
Subject: Re: headers and responses

I agree wholly with the comment that when responding to a post one should
NOT include the whole message that's being responded to.  I'd rather the
responder summarize BRIEFLY, the point being responded to than have to
plow through the whole previous post.  But do include something to indicate
what's being talked about.  It's also frustrating to read the answer to
something, but not have any idea of what the original topic was.

On the other points, I don't read through a thread first and then respond
for two reasons.  One, the site I'm at doesn't permit me to get a thread--
I get mail as it comes in and read it in order.  To read it twice takes
a LOT too much time--I'm barely keeping up scanning deaf-l once, and
if I don't respond as I see something, I don't respond.  In addition,
sometimes the messages come in out of order or some are missing.  All
of which makes it very difficult to know what will come up in future
messages.

Another factor making it difficult to be current is that sometimes a
message or messages get "lost" temporarily, so one doesn't see them in
a timely way.  Also, the reader could be away or otherwise unable to
read mail for several days.  Should that person then be forbidden to
respond?  I think not.

I guess the reader will have to be patient with laggard responses--

dmimi@ecsvax.uncecs.edu  dmimi@ecsvax.bitnet
Miriam (Mimi) Clifford; 2535 Sevier St, Durham, NC 27705; 919-489-4821
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:24:24 -0400
From:         Miriam Clifford <DMIMI@ECSVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: still torturing small animals

It wasn't me!  I've objected and argued about a lot of things but the small
animals wasn't one of them.

dmimi@ecsvax.uncecs.edu  dmimi@ecsvax.bitnet
Miriam (Mimi) Clifford; 2535 Sevier St, Durham, NC 27705; 919-489-4821
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:41:00 -0700
From:         "Bryce Carey, CNS,
              Admin. Sys. Group" <CAREY_B@CUBLDR.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hebrew langauge

Thank you very much, Joseph. I appreciated the thoughtful response
to my question about Hebrew.

I am wondering if the reason that vowels are not so much needed is
that if people 'sound out' the consonant letters they must put
in vowels anyway and they can just put in the correct vowels
because the word is familar. In other words, (no pun intended!)
the way it sounds is remembered, and not the way it looks. That
is also why I think the Greek inscriptions without spaces are
also understood. I assume the spaces were left out because if you
carve things in rock you want to conserve as much space as possible.

This is just speculation on my part. I studied a couple of quarters
of classical Greek at the university, but I didn't continue with it.
Latin inscriptions are also written without spaces. Certainly I
do not think Greeks and Romans were speed readers of their
"spaceless" inscriptions!

-Bryce
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:44:22 PST
From:         Alan Millar <amillar@BOLIS.SF-BAY.ORG>
Subject:      LGB ed vs Deaf ed

"Dave Windley, Data Comm Specialist X799" <AADW@CATCC.BITNET> writes:

>       Just FYI:  *I* am greatly offended by the term "queer" to
>       represent persons who are LGB.  That term definately infers
>       something wrong, abnormal, and negative.  There are others who
>       do not care about labels and their hurt factor.  That label
>       happens to throw shards of glass from the terminal to my face.

I happen to agree that this term is derogatory.  However, I have
heard people refer to themselves as "queer" as a term of pride.
There is a significant interest group which refers to itself
as "Queer Nation".  So we have dissention among the ranks as to its
appropriateness.  Who is right?  Both and neither?...  There isn't
really an answer.  When I was young the term "gay" was derogatory
and "homosexual" was no more derogatory than "heterosexual".  Now
"gay" is a prefered label.  It just isn't simple.

Situations like this demonstrate why the majority will pick the
label that seems most applicable and use it.  This is why
the hearing majority uses the label "Hearing Impaired".  The
hearing majority needs a term to fit the group of all people (for
example) who are likely to be interested in close-captioned TV
programs or text telephones.  They don't care to distinguish (in
such particular instances) whether you are hard of hearing,
deaf, Deaf, or dEaF :-)

- Alan

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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:07:59 EDT
From:         -- <sipb7@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      LGB language
              01 Sep 92 23:08:22 -0400. <9209041632.AA04152@Athena.MIT.EDU>

      Dave Windley says:
      Just FYI:  *I* am greatly offended by the term "queer" to
      represent persons who are LGB.  That term definately infers
      something wrong, abnormal, and negative.  There are others who
      do not care about labels and their hurt factor.

I certainly didn't intend to hurt anyone by using that word, and I
don't think Annie did, either.  Many LGB people in the Boston area are
now using "queer" as a general term for gay men, lesbians, bisexuals,
and other people who don't follow orthodox rules of sex.  Some of them
are using it to connote a militant attitude (e.g., the Queer Nation
slogan: "We're here, we're queer, we're fabulous, get used to it").
Others are probably tired of saying "gaylesbianandbisexual" whenever
they need an inclusive term.

Negative labels do not have to remain negative for eternity.  For
instance, "Yankee Doodle Dandy" was sung by the British to make fun of
Americans, way back in the eighteenth century.  Now, it's almost
patriotic.

--
seth gordon ... sign-impaired ... the learning center for deaf children
<sipb7@athena.mit.edu>        ... old, nearly obsolete e-mail address
<sethg@silver.lcs.mit.edu>    <== new, improved e-mail address -- use it!
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:24:56 -0600
From:         /PN=BRENDA.L.MONENE/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM
Subject:      RE: info. re. DEAFTEK

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THANKS....INFO ON THE WAY

BRENDA
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:55:00 EDT
From:         "sheila m. lagrasta" <6751L310@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      sheila m. lagrasta

sub deaf-l sheila m. lagrasta





















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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:07:44 -0400
From:         Miriam Clifford <DMIMI@ECSVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: question re speechreading tonal languages

Two things that help me (HoH) when I'm trying to hear what someone is
saying to me.  One is to have the person speak slightly more slowly--not
extremely so, but just a little.  That helps more than loudness.

Secondly, getting closer is important, if I'm really having trouble.
Distance is also a major problem for a HoH person.  If you can't get
physically closer easily, an assistive listening device (probably FM)
would help a lot--partially because it makes the sound louder, but also
because it makes it closer, putting it right in the person's ears (or
hearing aids).

dmimi@ecsvax.uncecs.edu  dmimi@ecsvax.bitnet
Miriam (Mimi) Clifford; 2535 Sevier St, Durham, NC 27705; 919-489-4821
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:38:27 EDT
From:         "Joseph P. Riolo" <riolo@COR4.PICA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Introduction

Hello, Sarah...

      Welcome to this list, if no one says that to you yet.

      My cousin lives in Albany and she works with young hearing-impaired
kids (before anyone flames me to ashes, I do not know much about her job and
her kids enough to decide if kids are deaf or hard of hearing or both and what
mode of communication they use).  (Sarah, for you as a newcomer, we had a
debate last month on terms for people who have hearing loss.)  Let me know
if you want her name and phone number.  My e-mail address is
<riolo@pica.army.mil>.

      I am glad to hear that your goal is to obtain a degree in Certified
Nurse-Midwife.  My wife and I used CNMs in Allentown, Pennsylvania for our
second child.  Since they did not know sign but they were very nice (it is
attitude that really counts regardless of whether they know sign language)
we had an interpreter with them during labor and birth.  It was a very good
experience.  One of my favorite things about CNM is that they let us
go home about five hours after birth instead of staying in hospital for three
days.

      I really want to encourage you to keep learning sign language and
practicing on it.  The only problem is that I do not know how many deaf
woman will use CNM.  The CNMs that I used for my second child said that
they had a deaf couple long time ago.  If you want to let deaf people
know of your service, you can subscribe to International Telephone
Directory for TDD Users directory and put your name in the directory.
You never know that someone will look it up and find your name.  Second
way is to be a member of deaf association in your area.  However, this
may not be good enough.  Deaf people (as well as hearing people) may
have to be well-informed about the choices in birthing.  Hospitals in
my home area are too competitive that they never mention CNMs or Home
Birth.  I found them through Yellow Pages.

      Again, welcome to the list.

                                        Joseph P. Riolo
                                        <riolo@pica.army.mil>
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:43:01 EDT
From:         TERRY MCILVAINE <6751M140@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      JOINING YOUR LIST

I SENT A MESSAGE EARLIER ABOUT JOINING YOUR LIST.  HOWEVER, I DON'T
RECALL WETHER I HAD GIVEN YOU MY USER ID AND NODE FOR RETURNING YOU
REPLY

THANK YOU

TERRY MCILVAINE   6751m140@kentvm
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Subject:      RE: new member information

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Harold...you will probably be interested in joining Deaftek.USA, the
electronic mail network dedicated to the deaf and hard of hearing communities.
We have subscribers involved in Bi-Bi education.  The network is comprised of
the organizations, agencies, schools, university programs and service
providers in the field of deafness.  If you will give me your address, I will
send you an information packet.

Brenda Monene
Deaftek.USA

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From:         Ben Salemans <B.Salemans@UCI.KUN.NL>
Subject:      Script files --> WordPerfect files

Dear SCRIPT-ers,

I while ago I asked via SCRIPT-L if it was possible to convert
text in Waterloo Script format into WordPerfect format.
I was answered that it was possible with a certain Script option
to print a output file into a general format (RTF?), which
could be read by WordPerfect.

I work with Waterloo Script version 88.1; this Script version
does not know the script option mentioned. Is this option
available in another version of Waterloo Script? Or even in
another version of (non Waterloo) Script?

Can somebody help me?

Yours truly,

Ben Salemans
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From: egorr@hebb.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr)
Subject: files from ftp.fu-berlin.de
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 23:37:02 GMT

I would like to get the files listed below from ftp.fu-berlin.de in the
directory called:  /pub/misc/diplomacy/dipl-l, but from where I am
locaed, the access time is very, very slow.  So, what I was wondering is
if any of you out there have these files already and could mail them to me
or
if you had quick access times to this site, could pick them up for me and
mail them to me. 

I would really appreciate it!

thanx...

> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp       6789 Apr 24  1991 convoys.Z
> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp       8557 Apr 24  1991 dipcon.Z
> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      12176 Apr 24  1991 france.Z
> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp       5662 Apr 24  1991 germany.Z
> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp       2741 Apr 24  1991 greek.Z
> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp       2034 Apr 24  1991 mediterranean.Z
> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp       2140 Apr 24  1991 stab-stab.Z
> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp        639 Apr 24  1991 top.ten.lies.Z
> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp       2951 Apr 24  1991 winning.dip.Z
> > -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      22767 Apr 24  1991 zine_list.Z

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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:46:31 EDT
Reply-To:     Nick Fitzpatrick <nick@SUNBURN.UWATERLOO.CA>
From:         Nick Fitzpatrick <nick@SUNBURN.UWATERLOO.CA>
Subject:      Players from Merlin

	Hello folks,

	Just a little survey : How many of you have come across someperson or
			       persons (unknown) from a site called
			       merlin.nmhu.edu
			       behaving in a bizarre and/or annoying way ?

I certainly have come across them, in fact my present policy is not to allow
any players from this site into ANY of my games, I am tempted to ask Ken
for a nomerlin flag for the judge!!

	I've been in two games where this clown (I suspect there's only one) has
	stayed just long enuf to wear out their welcome, surely I'm not the only
	victim ? (players in belch & quart included in 'I').

Certainly not, apparently he(they) are presently on summer vacation, but
promised to return soon.  Ken did a check on them once, on my request, and
he concluded that they were different people, however I am not so sure . . .

Nick
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:22:31 EDT
Reply-To:     Nick Fitzpatrick <nick@SUNBURN.UWATERLOO.CA>
From:         Nick Fitzpatrick <nick@SUNBURN.UWATERLOO.CA>
Subject: Re: Judge down?

	Has the Judge gone down?  I can't sem to get any response from it today.
	Harold Reynolds

The judge is just fine, I have had no problems communicating with it today
(and all our E-mail passed through Toronto!!)

Nick
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:09:44 +1000
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From:         Duncan McCardle <duncan@CC.UQ.OZ.AU>

Hello folks,

Just a little survey : How many of you have come across someperson or
		       persons (unknown) from a site called merlin.nmhu.edu
		       behaving in a bizarre and/or annoying way ?

I've been in two games where this clown (I suspect there's only one) has
stayed just long enuf to wear out their welcome, surely I'm not the only
victim ? (players in belch & quart included in 'I').

How say you all.

Duncan.

PS: Anyone from merlin.nmhu.edu, who is a 'real' person, can you shed any
    light on this ?
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:34:23 BST
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From:         amt5man@SUN.LEEDS.AC.UK
Subject:      FAQ Rules questions

Eric Gorr <eric_gorr@edu.uoregon.coglab_psych> writes:


> I am interested in developing a 1 or 2 page document which would cover
> those
> things that beginners find the most confusing about the game - focusing
> mainly on the rules of the game and nothing about strategy or tactics.

   A similar document explaining the basics of email/Judge might also be
useful.  I will try to put together some basic questions for you, culled
from the pages of *Springboard* (a novice only zine).  You'd be amazed
at some of the questions asked.  It might be better to group questions
according to the sections in the rule-book which answer them rather than
a random order.
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:09:18 EDT
Reply-To:     Harold Reynolds <harold@RAINBOW.PHYSICS.UTORONTO.CA>
From:         Harold Reynolds <harold@RAINBOW.PHYSICS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Judge down?

Has the Judge gone down?  I can't sem to get any response from it today.
Harold Reynolds
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From: eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr)
Subject: Important info for beginners at Diplomacy
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 21:26:29 GMT

I am interested in developing a 1 or 2 page document which would cover
those
things that beginners find the most confusing about the game - focusing 
mainly on the rules of the game and nothing about strategy or tactics.

What I would like to know from you people are those things, when you are
explain the rules to beginners that you most often forget to tell them or
those things that they most often ask about.

If there are any beginners out there, I would be interested in hearing from
you too.

thanx..
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:50:57 CST
Reply-To:     Roberto Ivon <RIVON@VMTECSLP.BITNET>
From:         Roberto Ivon <RIVON@VMTECSLP.BITNET>
Subject:      AV BBS?

  Does anybody know if Avalon Hill has a BBS number?

  Thanks

  Roberto Ivon
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:17:25 EDT
From:         "JONATHAN LORD" <jml4s@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bladerunner, director's cut

The "Director's Cut" version of Blade Runner is also opening this Friday in
the Washington DC area.

Jonathan

JML4s@Virginia.edu / Health Sciences Library / UVa Health Sci. Center
University of Virginia / Charlottesville VA  22908
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:00:32 CST
From:         "Richard Clawson, s.j." <CLAWSON@LOYNOVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Dances with Lions?
              9 Sep 1992 13:19:49 EDT from <jml4s@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU>

I believe that John Barry wrote the score for "Kvetches with Wolves" and
John Williams (All-time self-promoter king) wrote the score for "Out of
Africa"   I'm not promising this is completely correct, but I seem to
remember it this way.
      RDC,SJ
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:08:09 -0500
From:         JACKSOSM@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: "Glory" soundtrack

Subj:   RE: "Glory" soundtrack

>Composer of the "Glory" soundtrack score was James Horner--and I think it
>one of the best from this prolific scorer.  As usual, it's available as a
>separate soundtrack recording.  Jeff Clark

Thanks, Jeff.  Can you mention some of his other scores?

j-man

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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:52:13 BST
From:         Sami Al-Taher <smmat@UKC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Movie company addresses wanted

Hi all,

 I am looking for the addresses  and/or Tel Nos. of the major
movie companies here in the UK and also in the USA.

 Particluary  I would like the address of : CBS/FOX, MGM/UA,
Warner Bros, Touchstone, RCA/Columbia and 20.20 Vision. Also
any other ones you may have the address and/or Tel No. for.

I have posted an article asking for these addresses to a couple of
Usenet newsgroups but had no reply at all. Any help will be appreciated.

Thankx in advance,

	Sami.


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| Electronic Engineering Labs.   |                                 |
| University of Kent,            | E-mail: smmat@ukc.ac.uk         |
| Canterbury, Kent, UK.          | Tel: + 44 227 769303            |
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:21:49 EST
From:         Bill Felty <BILL.FELTY@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Actor Paychecks

F.Y.I......

Earnings of Actor Jack Nicholson in
1987    $11 million
1989    $34 million
1991    $14 million

Earnings of Actress Julia Roberts in
1987    $0
1991    $6 million

Earnings of Actor Arnold Schwarzenegger in
1987    $18 million
1989    $27 million
1991    $24 million

Earnings of the Average Feature Film Actor in the Screen Actors' Guild in
1987    $5,087
1991    $5,827

Amount paid to Bruce Willis for doing the baby's voice in _Look Who's Talking_
        $10 million


source.....Premiere magazine
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