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From: mbowman@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Michael Bowman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Windows JPEG viewer?
Keywords: JPEG
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:43:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Does anyone know of a Windows JPEG viewer?  And where it can be FTPed from (if it isn't at CICA)?


Michael Bowman
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From: dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: NDWMAIN and General Protection Error
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:26:28 GMT
Reply-To: dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



Somehow Norton and/or Windows has corrupted USER.EXE on my hard disk.  I
use Norton as my Windows shell and yesterday when I started up, I received
a message box that said "Application error, NDWMAIN caused a General
Protection Fault in module USER.EXE at 0009:0483."  Since then, I've
reinstalled both Windows and Norton, but I'm still receiving the same
error.  Any ideas what I should look at now?

Thanks,
Dale
From: neiger@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Micrografx Designer and Windows 3.1
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:17:21 +1100
Organization: Monash University, Australia

In article <james.34.720970938@library.nrl.navy.mil>, james@library.nrl.navy.mil (James King) writes:
> In article <1992Nov3.090810.21711@ugle.unit.no> kristian@Siri.Unit.NO (Kristian Martinsen) writes:
>>From: kristian@Siri.Unit.NO (Kristian Martinsen)
>>Subject: Micrografx Designer and Windows 3.1
>>Keywords: Fonts
>>Date: 3 Nov 92 09:08:10 GMT
>>When I installed Win 3.1, A problem with Designer version 3.1 occured:
>>When I'm writing text the font is symbol! Fortunatly it switches back to
>>the choosen font when I am finnished writing, but it is annoying to have to
>>read greek letters when writing. Nobody else I have talked to have this problem,
>>even though we are useing the same Designer version with the same configurations
>>via our decnet.
>>
>>Can anybody help me out?
>>
>>(BTW: will there be a new Designer version out soon?)

That problem is common.  What I do is to select TEXT DISPLAY to proof for both
editing and preview.  It's a bit slower but it works (I get ALGERIAN which is
upper case only and too ornate to read).

Designer 4 is promised to be a Corel 3 killer (and knowing Micrografix it will
be) due out in mid February.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Telecommuters, Remote Workers
From: 9138827a@levels.unisa.edu.au
Date: 4 Nov 92 20:59:08 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

This item has been cross-posted to comp.windows.x, comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
and comp.sys.ibm.pc.digest
=======================================================================

I am undertaking postgraduate study at the School of Library and
Information Management, University of South Australia, Adelaide, on
the particular information needs of telecommuters - those who perform
job-related work at a site away from an organisation and communicate
electronically rather than commuting physically.
 
I would be very interested in, and would greatly appreciate a response
from those who are telecommuters, to the following questions. If you
are not a telecommuter but know of others who are it would be
appreciated if you could pass this on to them:
 
 
Q1      Does the organisation to which you telecommute provide any
        library and information services which are accessible to you
        online? (eg catalogs, reference assistance, databases, literature
        searches, document delivery services, organisation information
        such as daily bulletins and administrative gazettes.)
 
        If yes:
 
        (a) What services are provided?
        (b) How useful are these services to you?
 
Q2      (a)     What is the nature of the organisation to which you
                telecommute?
 
        (b)     If you sometimes commute physically to your organisation,
                how frequently do you do this?
 
Q3      What are the particular information needs that you have as a
        telecommuter?
 
Q4      What basic information services do you consider should be
        provided by an organisation for its telecommuters? (see Q5 for
        additional and desirable services)
 
Q5      What additional information services would you perceive as being
        highly desirable for an organisation to provide for its
        telecommuters?
 
Q6      Are there any further comments you wish to make regarding the
        information needs of telecommuters?
 
Q7      Would you like a summary of the results of this survey E-mailed
        to you?
 
Respondents can be assured that individuals and organisations will not
be identified in any report or summary of this survey.
 
Please E-mail your response to my Internet address:
 
9138827a@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au
 
Thank you for your cooperation
 
Bronwen Strong
From: mschaeff@pilot.njin.net (Marc Schaeffer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: windows 3.1 and rbase 4.0
Keywords: windows 3.1, rbase 4.0
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:05:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Anybody out there have a solution to the problem of running Rbase4.0
in Windows 3.1.  I have a 386 machine w/ 6mg RAM and a co-processor
and still get out of memory messages.  I have a 486/33 with 8 mg RAM
and also get out of memory messages.  Microrim keeps saying they will
fix it soon.  I'm not holding my breath.  Any ideas?  Thanks!!
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rsrodger@next10csc.wam.umd.edu (Robert Stephen Rodgers)
Subject: Re: Postscript Viewers
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:15:44 GMT

In article <65q1=dp@rpi.edu> floydb@rpi.edu writes:
> (lastline)
> This will be the second or third year I have heard rumors
> of ghostscript for Windows/DOS. Is anyone actually using a
> Windows 3.x version of ghostscript?



	I hate it, but it's really a pretty awful program 
	if you're into using and not fiddling.  It has 
	no interface to speak of and the documentation 
	(like all of the GS ports I've seen) is a joke.

	I would like to see GSWIN with an _interface_.  I.e.
	run it, it asks for a PS file (or, press "Command line"
	to get to the direct interface) to run, asks for output
	"Preview (screen)" "Printer" and so on.  

	As it is, it's a pest.  I kept it (it's only 300k
	and I _do_ use the dos version), but I only use it to
	preview...


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From: s_fuller@iastate.edu (Steve Fuller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Utilitie to read and write MAC formatted disks??y
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:51:52 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

$129 seems kind of steep for a product that ONLY reads HD
diskettes.  A comparable Mac product to read low and HD diskettes
is around $75. 

and yes I do own a PC....


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: gvv@philabs.philips.com (George Varghese)
Subject: True Type Fonts - Dravidian Languages like Malayalam
Organization: Philips Laboratories
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:11:39 GMT

Followup-To:gvv@philips.philips.com(george Varghese) 
Distribution: na
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Keywords:True Type Fonts - Malayalam




Is there some place where I can get true type fonts for use with Windows
n the above mentioned language. This is spoken in south India.  I have seen
postings in this news group for European Languages.  All comments welcome.

Thanks

George Varghese





 







Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rwl@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ray Lubinsky)
Subject: Re: NDW glitch or WIN 3.1?
Reply-To: rwl@server.cs.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:18:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.051330.29597@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, steve1@navaho.cc.bellcore.com (stein,stephen c) writes:
> A while back, I must have done something weird to my options.
> Now, every time I do anything that writes to drive C, the
> machine beeps. For large files, it may beep 10 times or more.
> Does anyone know what Icould have done to deserve this? I am
> desperate to stop this infernal racket.


Chances are you're using SmartErase and you haven't cleaned out the
hidden directory it controls (where deleted files are saved).  When you
open up SmartErase to clean out the files it's saved, make sure that
you select the option to see old versions.  A frequently-edited file
will show up many times, once for each time you saved the file.

To minimize the frequency of having to clean house, make sure that
certain types of files (.obj, .tmp, etc) which can be easily recreated
are not saved up by SmartErase.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: dmsilev@athena.mit.edu (Daniel M Silevitch)
Subject: Re: Table in W4W 2.0
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:12:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.080851.1061@atri.curtin.edu.au>, fischer@atri.curtin.edu.au (S G Fischer) writes:
|> Does anybody know how to produce a table in W4W 2.0 that looks something
|> like the one shown below :
|> 
|> +------+------+
|> |      |      |
|> |      | Text |
|> | Text |      |
|> |      +------+
|> |      |      |
|> +------+ Text |
|> |      |      |
|> |      +------+
|> | Text |      |
|> |      | Text |
|> |      |      |
|> +------+------+
|> 
|> Any help would be much appreciated.
|> 
|> 
|> Stephen Fischer
|> 
|> Australian Telecommunications Research Institute
|> fischer@atri.curtin.edu.au
|> 

Try this.

1) Create a table with 2 columns and 6 rows.
2) Use the Merge Cells command to reformat the left column
   into two cells and the right column into 3.
3) Type text into each cell.

Daniel Silevitch                         dmsilev@athena.mit.edu
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: rjhoffma@iastate.edu (Richard J. Hoffmann)
Subject: Re: How to import PostScript vector files into CorelDraw
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:23:50 GMT

In article <1dgdguINNoh5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas) writes:
>
>In a previous article, ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu (Anthony J. Persechini) says:
>
>You are correct.  Corel will only accept Adobe Illustrator EPS files.
>You can also use Ghostscript, but it seems to only like Adobe
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Illustrator EPS files too.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I use Ghostscript regularly to view postscript files printed to disk by
Freelance Graphics and FreeHand.  Also files saved by SlideWrite Plus.
Perhaps these aren't the EPS files being referred to, although the
Windows printer drivers for postscript devices say that the file will be
EPS.  Anyway, I've found Ghostscript to be quite versatile.

Dick Hoffmann


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From: craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Craig S. Williamson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Word for Windows question
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:31:13 GMT
Reply-To: craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Craig S. Williamson)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia, SC


I would like to include an encapsulated postscript image on every page
of a document that my new stuff gets overlayed upon.  Is there a way to
do this?  Basically what I want is the word Uncontrolled written diagonally
and at a halftone on every page of some documents we are creating.  Can this
be done in Word for Windows?  It would be nice to include this in the header
of each page if possible.

Craig 

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: tnsturm@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm)
Subject: Re: WinWord bug (can't save!!!)...HELP!!!
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:43:23 GMT

Get WinWord version 2.0a

Hope that helps ;-)
Torsten
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From: kenyee@sneakers (Ken Yee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Windows JPEG viewer?
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:22:36 EST

In article <Nov.5.18.43.30.1992.24269@andromeda.rutgers.edu>  
mbowman@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Michael Bowman) writes:
> Does anyone know of a Windows JPEG viewer?  And where it can be FTPed  
from (if it isn't at CICA)?
   WinJPEG is at wuarchive, simtel, and oak.

 ken
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm)
Subject: NDW problems
Organization: McMaster University, Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:12:59 GMT

A friend has just installed NDW 2.0 over 1.0.  Problem:  when a directory 
listing is called up, it does not show recent files.  For example the newly
installed NDW files do not appear. And the autoexec.bat file does not appear
(it was changed of course during installation).  The "filter" is set for 
"All" so that's not the problem.  "Refresh" doesn't help, nor does 
rebooting. 

Suggestions?    Carl Riehm.
From: steimann@quando.quantum.de (Ulrich Steimann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Inverse Text in W4W - How?
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:30:06 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software GmbH, Dortmund, Germany

Hi!
We are doing some "hardcopies" from normal ASCII-Terminals for our
manuals. We don't want bitmaps, because they are too large and not
everybody has a PC or an X-Windows-Terminal. We filter the output of
our screen-server through a nice litte program and construct
*.rtf-files.

This works fine. We use Courier_New and MS_LineDraw as fonts and are
able to underline some text or to make it bold. (No flashing, of
course :-).

But one problem remains: how to show inverted text without spoiling
the printed mask-image? We tried (how is the english term?)
position-boarders, movable with the text, textcolor white, background
black. But they are horrible to adjust.

We tried {eq \x(field one)}, but that gives only lines. We tried {eq
\o(MS-LineDraw-char 215;Text)} But it spoils the adjustment.

We tried Paragraph-Border-Shaded, but that effects the whole paragraph.

We even fiddled around with character-spacing, but with no good result.

Do _You_ have any solutions?

Thanks in advance,
	UST

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rich@oieng.mke.ab.com (Richard B. Ralston)
Subject: W4W, Excel, and NDW questions
Reply-To: <rich@oieng.mke.ab.com> (Rich Ralston)
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co., Milwaukee, WI
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:51:47 GMT


1) My dad has an old (very old) Leading Edge Model D.  He recently bought a 386SX and
   wanted to maintain similar performance so he decided to get Windoze (8-).  He has
   lots of stuff he's written in the LE Word Processor that he'd like to convert to W4W.
   Does anyone know of a filter that could do the conversion for him?  He'd like to
   avoid converting to ascii and then reformatting everything in W4W.

2) I have a spreadsheet that somehow has grown to thousands of lines long (don't ask me
   how I did it, I've no idea).  I looked in the manual and couldn't find anything that
   would resize the thing to the mere hundreds of rows it should be.  Hilighting and
   deleteing didn't seem to have an effect. (Especially since I could scroll down to the
   end!  That just took too long.)

3) I've heard NDW 2.0 has an upgrade or patch.  Where is that available (ftp or
   compu$erve would be fine).

Thanks for helping!

rich
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From: jsanchez@halcyon.com (Jim Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Using Quicken data in Excel Spreadsheet
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:10:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwnexus.1992Nov6.041057.17783
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service

I want to use the data that I put into quicken as inputs to an excel
spreadsheet.  I need to calculate some things that I cannot get quicken
to do.  I played around with the little worksheets that intuit supplies
but I would like some heavier duty programming info.  Has anyone done
this sort of thing?  Any pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks
Jim Sanchez
Hughes LAN Systems jim@hls.com OR jsanchez@halcyon.com
Kirkland, WA 98033 (206)828-7417 (voice) (206)828-2454 (FAX)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rjhoffma@iastate.edu (Richard J. Hoffmann)
Subject: Re: How to import PostScript vector files into CorelDraw
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:16:15 GMT

>>>You are correct.  Corel will only accept Adobe Illustrator EPS files.
>>>You can also use Ghostscript, but it seems to only like Adobe
>>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>Illustrator EPS files too.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>I use Ghostscript regularly to view postscript files printed to disk by
>>Freelance Graphics and FreeHand.  Also files saved by SlideWrite Plus.
>>Perhaps these aren't the EPS files being referred to, although the
>>Windows printer drivers for postscript devices say that the file will be
>>EPS.  Anyway, I've found Ghostscript to be quite versatile.
>>
>
>OK if your need is for preview only.

Actually, the current version (2.52) also supports printing to LaserJet
printers too.  I can't recall for sure, but I seem to recall support for
other printers too.

Dick



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From: thudoba@ub.d.umn.edu (RUN Tims Coming)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Font request please
Date: 6 Nov 1992 16:02:45 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: here
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

Hello I am looking for a rather strange font for win 3.1.  What I am looking
for is a font that looks like it was made out of steel.  Also I would like to
know if there is the same font but this time with bolts in them so the font
will actually look like its a metal letter with bolts in it.  If you have
seen some thing like this please email me.

		thanks in advance...to whomever that is


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From: yefchak@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (George Yefchak)
Subject: Re: Windows Calendar
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:48:30 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I don't know about startin in Month view, but to open a particular
calendar file is easy.  Edit the Command Line (select "Properties..."
from the File menu), and add the filename as a parameter.  For
example, mine says "C:\Windows\Calendar datebook.cal".

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: landen@cvx.eur.nl (Peter van der Landen)
Subject: Re: Winqvtnet 3.0
Organization: Erasmus University Rotterdam
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:28:14 GMT

In article <27405@oasys.dt.navy.mil> ruckman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher Ruckman) writes:
>Path: l-gw.eur.nl!hob-rgw.eur.nl!mailgate.eur.nl!eur.nl!sun4nl!mcsun!Germany.EU.net!news.netmbx.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!math.fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!ira.uka.de!ira.uka.de!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!dtix!oasys!ruckman
>From: ruckman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher Ruckman)
>Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
>Subject: Re: Winqvtnet 3.0
>Message-ID: <27405@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
>Date: 11 Nov 92 17:04:20 GMT
>References: <BxK8Av.s9@m2.dseg.ti.com>
>Reply-To: ruckman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher Ruckman)
>Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
>Lines: 4
>In comp.os.ms-windows.apps, anderson@dseg.ti.com (John Anderson) writes:
>>Has anyone found Wnqvtnet 3.0 on any of the ftp servers?
>
>Check ftp.cica.indiana.edu:/pub/pc/win3/uploads/qvtnet30.zip.

I did...

There was a text file from QPC with it (dated nov. 12) that said the version 
stored there has a 'nasty bug'. They will replace it in a couple of days.

Peter van der Landen

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