From: nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MULLAHS BURN QURAN AND DESCERATE MOSQUE IN DACCA
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:54:17 GMT
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
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This is a very dissappointing response from Mr Raheel-- a true mullah 
through-and-through.

I am actually preparing a series of articles already in response to an earlier
post by Mr Raheel, and since a lot of that covers many of the points rasied
here also, I will only make breif comments here.

gt7242a@prism.gatech.EDU (KHAN,RAHEEL) writes:
: 
: 
:     In his article Nadeem Malik writes:
: 
: >	MULLAH LED DESCERATE AHMADI MUSLIM MISSION HOUSE
: >		AND BURN MANY QURANS IN BANGLADESH
:                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: 
:     I wonder why!

Why? My belief is that they are hypocrites and they have no gnuine love for
Quaran or Holy Prophet, and they want to stop the accelerating growth of 
Jamat-e-Ahmadiyya out of shear jealousy and hatred.

: 
: >On 29th October 1992, a mob led by Pakistani and Saudi Arabian Mullahs stormed
: >the Ahmadiyya Muslim Mission House in Dacca, Bangladesh. The following is a letter
: >to the Foreign Minister of Bangladesh (copy send to the Prime Minister) from
: >the Amir of the Swiss Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamat protesting against this incident:
: 
: 		--------------------------------------------
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: >and, the worst of all, they even burnt many copies of the Holy Quran! 
: 
:      This is a matter of utmost urgency!  I have had the opptunity to flip-
:      through the "Qur'an" that Ahmadis are trying to spread thoughout the 
:      world.  They know that trying to raise doubts about the authenticacy 
:      of the Arabic is futile so they are doing the next best thing:  they 
:      "interpret" the Qur'an to suit their needs.  For example they explain
:      the phrase "Khatam-un-Nabiyyeen" (Seal of the Prophets) mentioned in the
:      Qur'an in such a way that their claim that Mirza Gulam Ahmed was a
:      prophet after Muhammad(SAAWS) doesnot seem absurd.  The ordinary reader,
:      who is not aware of the Ahmadiyya claims is likely to become very 
:      confused about these statements!  This is why I have seen that the target
:      of their efforts are primarly new Muslims and Muslims who don not read 
:    Arabic. Wa'Allah, Muslims face a grave danger  because of this new "Qur'an"
:      that the Ahmadis preach.

This issue will be addressed in one of my other articles, inshallah.

:      
: >Ahmadi Muslims were also attacked by the mob and some were seriously injured and
: >hospitalised.
: 
: >We are sure that your Excellency will appreciate the gravity of the situation. Such
: >inhuman acts as those just described are bad enough in any situation, but
: >when it is done in the name of Islam and in the name of our beloved holy
: >Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), then it becomes a slur on his name and upon Islam.
: 
: 
:      As if distorting the manifestations (Ayat) of Allah (SWT) was not a 
:      crime!  Surely Allah knows that they lie, and surely He will protect
:      protect His religion from "innovators"!

Yes, ALLAH will protect. The problem is that mullahs of Mr Raheel's type
suffer from dillusions of divinity, a condition in which they believe
themselves to be as gods, and thus they are the ones to protect Islam, not
Allah.

: 
: >No self-respecting Muslim can remain unmoved and not feel
: >a deep sense of shock and dismay at the depth to which these so-called modern day
: >`defenders of Islam' have sunk. 
: 
:      The have yet not "sunk to the depth" that Abu-Bakr and the rest of the 
:      companions sunk to when they declared Jihad against the false prophets
:      and their followers, during the wars of apostacy!  What kind of Muslims
:      would we be if we did not defend our religion from the evil machinations 
:      of Ahmadis.  

I will examine this issue in detail in an other article in response to
Mr Raheel, but breifly here; the wars referred to above were not fought
simply because these people were apostates, but because these peopl were
causing rebellion and unrest against an established government. Any 
government, whether Muslim or non-Mulsim, has a right to subdue unrest
in these circumstances.
: 
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: >and murder.  They also intimidated the Government of Pakistan into formally
: >declaring Ahmadi Muslims as non-Muslims. This is undoubtedly their aim
: >in Bangladesh too.
: 
:      Ahmadis are non-muslim by the consensus (Ijma') of Scholars and Muslims
:      all over the world.  It is just Pakistan's misfortune that Ahmadiyya 
:      happens to have its root in Pakitan, and that is why Pakistanis have 
:      had to take the lead in uncovering it.
: 

Ijma' cannot over-rule authentic hadith; Holy Prophet has authority over
Ijma': He said 72 out of 73 sects would go to hell in the later days of Islam.
Besides, you cannot exclude Ahmadis from the Ijma and then say they are 
not Muslim; before an issue is decided Ahmadis must be included in the 
discussion. The Ijma' is menaingless without it.


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: KHAN,RAHEEL
: Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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: Internet: gt7242a@prism.gatech.edu


The saddest thing about Mr Raheel's diatribe is that he has completely
missed the main point of the article:
THE HOLY WORDS OF ALLAH, THE HOLY QURAN WERE WILLINGLY BURNED BY HIS
TYPE OF MULLAHS.

And he apparently supports it!

Nadeem Malik
nadeem@p.igp.ethz.ch
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan