From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.german
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: ...the weaponry captured from the PKK has turned out to be German-made.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 17:37:59 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <725107473henning.henning@messy.toppoint.de> henning@messy.toppoint.de (H Plagemann) writes:

>>I'd like to see Turkey sending some of its troops into Germany to protect
>>its citizens, as your police seem to be incapable of doing so.  Would that
>>be okay with you ?

>The Turkish troops kill the kurdish people using german weapons (NATO-member).
>They called the Germans 'Nazis' because we stopped sending more weapons for
>the murder of helpless people (doesn't make any sense, does it ?).

Typical Nazi drivel. Your inability to distinguish between "Kurds" and 
"PKK/ASALA/SDPA/ARF" terrorists is truly amazing. The PKK, the Marxist 
Kurdish Workers Party, was created by the KGB. PKK is a pawn in the hands 
of the neighboring countries and Germany who have sinister designs on Turkiye. 
The PKK is quite active in Turkiye; they raid the villages and the military 
camps, massacre the civilians and the soldiers indiscriminately. The main 
victims of the PKK's attacks are fellow Kurds in southeastern Turkiye, who 
have been assimilated into the Turkish population, have the democratic 
rights of all Turkish citizens and are represented in Turkiye's parliament
and government (the current foreign minister, Hikmet Cetin, is an ethnic 
Kurd.) Is Germany's foreign minister an ethnic Kurd/Turk? Poor "Plaemann";
give him a rope, he will gladly hang himself.

Much of the weaponry captured from the PKK has turned out to be 
German-made. Who is supporting the PKK? What's the motivation? Please 
spell it out for us.

Can't you see a bit difference between a democratic state and a
totalitarian state? The people of Turkiye want every citizen
of the Turkish Republic to enjoy the benefits provided to them
by the Constitution. That means everyone is a first class Turkish
citizen, irrespective of their ethnic background. The fact that
Septioglu and Zana are at the helm of the Parliament today proves
that this system is functioning properly. Turkiye's citizens of
Kurdish origin, along with other citizens who are living in
Turkiye's southeastern regions, have been harassed by terrorists
for the past seven years. The people who were already being
terrorized by the KGB's puppets were also subjected to 
repression of all kinds and thus were trapped between the 
state forces and the terrorists. 

Right from the outset certain things must be made clear to everyone.
Turkiye's territorial integrity is not negotiable. If some day the
white-hating black extremists [or Klu Klux Klan or Nazi Armenians, 
for that matter] in this country would go far enough to want an 
independent purely black [or white or Nazi Armenian] state, I do not 
believe that the United States Government would just donate part of its 
territory for this 'noble cause.' I do not want to even imagine
what the white majority [or blacks] will do to them. The pundits
who love to construct some of the scenarios that give large chunks
of other peoples' lands to Kurds, would not be that generous with
their own lands. Have you ever heard of 'The Turkish Independence
War?'

To put it simply and bluntly, the problem cannot be solved just by
neutralizing the PKK (although that would be extremely easy for the
Turkish military), but by making the population of Eastern Anatolia
'love' the government they elect. That is the way any democracy 
should work. 

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)