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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #91
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:25:05 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Tue,  7 Apr 92       Volume 10 : Issue 91 

Today's Topics:

      [*] TidBITS#115/06-Apr-92
      68000 Assembler (A)
      [kim3@husc.harvard.edu : Re: Info-Mac Digest V10 #89 ]
      AD on Network?
      Apple Single Format Interpeter [A]
      AutoDoubler
      Backup over ftp.
      Cleaning Contacts (A)
      compression of MS products
      DD, .z or .Z, MeSsy/DOS (A)
      Deskwriter Paper-A legible File!
      DOS viruses on a Mac (A)
      Dove Computer Corporation (Q)
      Farming Software (Q)
      Floppy desktop files (Q)
      IIf Postscript Error
      InUse cdev
      Isopropyl Alcohol Preferred for Cleaning (A)
      Keep spell check dictionaries reasonably sized (C)
      kid-proof finder
      Kids Software
      LC 2 Question.
      Lots of Sound Tracker Songs...
      Mac 2 -- more questions
      Mac 2 Questions....
      MacOracle Replies Re: "Windows?" (second attempt...)
      Mail order Macintosh [Q]
      methanol vs. isopropanol
      Modem Cable Pinout Needed
      Modem Cable Pinout Needed (A)
      More Disk Space (C)
      No need for help or application icons?
      Norton Utilities (C)
      Printing Greys
      RE- Dos virus on Mac?
      RE- Panasonic 6-CDROM
      RE- Problem with AppleSha
      RE- SCSI-Accellerator for
      RE- Voyager Expanded Book
      SD "fact"
      Speed Disk (R)
      Spell check trivia
      Strange Adresses and 'Second Class Citizens'
      StyleWriter Drivers
      submission for posting
      Sun sounds to Mac (Q)
      SuperDisk fact (tell me more)
      The new Apple II card (A)
      The new LC II PDS vs the LC 'Classic' PDS (Q)
      TimeServer request
      TI microLaser vs. GCC BLB Elite (R)
      Tune-Up Problems
      TuneUp comments (C) & Word 5 problem (Q)
      two questions
      Why do a Mac SE and Mac II behave differently? (Q)
      Word resets Mac

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 21:33:01 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.halcyon.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#115/06-Apr-92

TidBITS#115/06-Apr-92
=====================
 
 In the fast moving world of Apple, you can never tell when Apple
   will fix an evil bug, offer something for free to owners of
   PowerBook 140s and 170s (new battery cases to prevent the
   batteries from catching fire), or even start a new promotion.
   All of those things happened this week, along with the
   late-breaking buyout of DataClub-maker IBS by network kingpin
   Novell. We also have an editorial on electronic privacy and a
   review preview of Nisus.
 
Topics:
    MailBITS/06-Apr-92
    Tune-Up 1.1, Just Get It
    Novell Buys IBS
    Personal, Not Private
    PowerBook Freebie
    Apple Announces New Promotion
    Nisus Review Preview
    Reviews/06-Apr-92
 
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-115.etx; 27K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:53 PST
From: DALAL%SCU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: 68000 Assembler (A)

        A couple of years ago, MOTOROLA(?) put out a PD/Shareware
        680x0 assembler...Check your local PD shop.

        Also, you may want to look into CONSOULAIR(sp?)'s 68000
        Assembler, originally called the Macintosh Development
        System(MDS) 68000. It costs about $50-60.00 and you can
        get it thru APDA and a couple of mailorder places...

        hope that helps.

        dan dalal
        DALAL@SCU.BITNET

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 17:08:35 -0400
From: kim3@husc.harvard.edu
Subject: [kim3@husc.harvard.edu : Re: Info-Mac Digest V10 #89 ]

I have been having problems with the Publish and Subscribe feature on
PageMaker 4.2... Apparently it is not compatible with non-ASCII characters
like the n-dash and the curly apostrophe. As a consequence, whenever I
subscribe to an edition created in Word 5.0 that has such a character,
the program interprets the character as an EOF. I haven't had time to really
experiment with this a lot, but I'm pretty sure this is what's happening.
Has anybody else had this problem, and if so, are there ways to get around it
other than using all-ASCII characters in my Word file (which I would rather
retain formatted as well)?

Please reply by e-mail as well as by this newsgroup.

Jason Y. Kim
kim3@husc9.harvard.edu

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 09:34:34 PST
From: ISCJCW@uccvma.ucop.edu
Subject: AD on Network?

From:  Jerry Wilcox             ISCJCW@UCCVMA    (510)987-0516
Subject: AD on Network?

Igor Livshits writes: "However, when my colleagues mount my volumes on their
Macs and try to pull files to their machines, they get a nasty surprise -- the
files are compressed."

I guess I'm not surprised that this happens, but I am a bit surprised that
Salient hasn't addressed the problem. AutoDoubler does uncompress files when
you copy between volumes, using a machine that has AD installed. Obviously, in
this case, a user who mounts one of Igor's volumes on a machine which does not
have AD installed will not see any automatic uncompression, even when s/he
copies from Igor's volume to a local volume. If you reversed the situation,
and Igor mounted his colleague's volume and copied a file to it, the file
would be uncompressed because Igor's machine has AD installed.

I'm a very happy user of AD on my (non-networked) machine at home, but we
haven't needed to install any such utilities on the network here at work. I
have thought about installing AD on my machine because I have a small hard
drive which is always overflowing, but I don't want to cause problems for my
colleagues.

I'm also interested in the problem with Retrospect Remote, because we use that
to backup our network. I wonder if the problem is that AD needs to be
installed on the machine which is doing the remote backup?

Does anyone have any further thoughts/suggestions regarding these two
problems?

Disclaimer: These are my own personal opinions, not my employer's.
+ Jerry Wilcox -- ISCJCW@UCCVMA.ucop.edu -- phone: (510)987-0516 +

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 14:12:26 -0700
From: Robert Lenoil <lenoil@apple.com>
Subject: Apple Single Format Interpeter [A]

Check out my shareware utility TIGER; it was written specifically for your
need.  Just drag the uuencoded, applesingled enclosure to TIGER, and the
enclosures will be extracted. It's available in /info-mac/utils/tiger-11.hqx.

Robert Lenoil
Independent Consultant

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 10:12:18 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.halcyon.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: AutoDoubler

In Regards to your letter <9204070537.AA22116@sumax.seattleu.edu>:
> This is not always true.  In fact, it is false exactly when I need it.  I
> use AD an am genreally pleased with it.  However, when my colleagues mount
> my volumes ontheir Macs and try to pull files to their machines, they get a
> nasty surprise -- the files are compressed.  Of course, I can give everyone
> a copy of the Expand utility, but the manual clearly states:
> 
> "AutoDoubler will automatically expand the file.  This avoids your
> accidently giving someone a compressed file, yet leaves the original file
> compressed."

This is indeed a true problem with AutoDoubler, although it does fit
within the letter of the manual's statement. When someone mounts your
hard disk remotely and removes files from it, they are the initiators
of the action and you are not "giving" them the file as such. Semantics
aside, I personally think it would be better to expand the files when
copied that way too, but I also suspect that it would be very difficult
for AD (perhaps impossible) to realize when a remote machine was copying
a file and expand it. After all, remember that the reason AD expands
files in normal copying is because it fools the Finder into thinking
they are normal files. The Finder is unaware of anything that happens
remotely, so there's no current way for AD to kick in.

> Another problem is that AD decompresses files for Retrospect Remote
> effectively increasing my backuo times by a factor of 5 or 10.

Just create a "Don't Compress" Selector in Retrospect that looks for
all the creators of the popular compression programs, including AD.
I use:

CPCT
SIT!
DDAP (this is the one for AD (and DD) specifically)
EXTR
aust
DSEA

Then in the Extended Options part of Retrospect, select your Don't
Compress Selector, and all will be fine.

cheers ... -Adam

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 08:43:36 EDT
From: saper@norway.biop.umich.edu (Mark A. Saper (313)764-3353)
Subject: Backup over ftp.

I am installing an Ethernet connection to my Mac and will be running
MacFTP and NCSA TelNet.  Basically I'd like to backup from my Mac 80Mb disk
to a Unix system on the network.  Ideally I'd like to create one type of
.tar or archive file on the Unix system from all of the files on the Mac.
Which type of backup program can do this?  I don't have room
on my Mac to make a Stuffit file of my whole disk.

Any suggestions send directly to me.

Thanks, Mark Saper

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 08:22:25 -0800
From: Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca
Subject: Cleaning Contacts (A)

>Is there any special reason to use Isopropyl alcohol, rather than methanol,
>which is much more easily available?
 
I'd say they're a match as far as availability goes. Pharmasave has both,
the former as rubbing alcohol and the latter as fondue fuel.

Cheers
Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 10:20:17 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.halcyon.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: compression of MS products

In Regards to your letter <9204070537.AA22116@sumax.seattleu.edu>:
> >Almost nothing can compress Microsoft apps well. It's due to their
> >internal p-code (which is why they have very few resources). Try compressing
> >Word or Excel with Compact Pro or DiskDoubler and they won't do very
> >well either. I once compressed Word with StuffIt 1.5.1 and it got
> >bigger. :-)
> 
> Err..um..I can't vouch for how well it might do with Word 5 or other MS apps,
> but AutoDoubler compresses Word 4 just fine.
> 
> Expanded:	680k
> Compressed:	482k
> Savings:	 28%

Open mouth, insert compressed foot. :-)

I really did see StuffIt 1.5.1 make a compressed copy of Word (3.0
I think) larger once, and between that and the note about MDS having
trouble I just assumed... Since I don't have any Microsoft programs
on my hard disk I didn't check, and a couple of people have disagreed
with me, citing their tests.

Oh well, I was wrong. Please accept my apologies where appropriate. :-)

cheers ... -Adam

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 21:05:56 EST
From: ZMEG000 <ZMEG%AACC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: DD, .z or .Z, MeSsy/DOS (A)

   I agree DD is rather sucky. Although I find AutoDoubler
to be wonderful! It is also an init that upacks to the ram
not to a file on disk. It does not harm or modify the icon
(as the user sees it). Although the File ownership is changed.
And you sill see an alternate icon if you restart your machine
with out it. The greatest thing is that it unpacks to RAM so
when you are done running the program ti does not have to be
recompressed! (because it stayed compressed on the disk.) The
only caveat I have is that you can not have it compress a file
on demand (like you can DD).

     About a file being Z-ed (or is that z-ed) ---
UNIX supports 2 types of compression. The capital Z is for
the utility compress and uncompress. The lower case z is for
pack and unpack. Just something else to worry about.

     MeSsy/DOS boards are being made by orange micro. They
allow you to have an Intel Processor inside you mac. There is
another program that lets you use a IBM machine remotely.
The display is in a window on your mac, but your dos machine
box is at your feet (where lower forms of computers should be).
I believe the program is called MacChuck.

Take care,
    Mike

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 00:26:16 PDT
From: Paul.Antaki@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Deskwriter Paper-A legible File!

Here is a summary of the responses I received in regard to my question about paper for the HP 
1
DeskWriter. I've chosen only to list the papers that provide good to excellent results. Thanks to all 
who responded.
 
*Pro-Tech paper is great but it's not made anymore.
*Always try both sides of the paper, sometimes the 'right' side works best, sometimes the
  'wrong' side works better
*Try getting samples for a wide variety of papers to see which ones work better.
*There may be quality differences between different batches of the same paper, especially if it's
  recycled
*Whisper Wove provides excellent results but is expensive (7 cents/sheet)
*Weyerhaeuser First Choice (24#) provides good to excellent results
*Endurance XDP "High speed Xerographic" was said to provide good results
*Xerox 4200 DP paper (20#) works well for text but gets saturated with graphics
*Jet Paper Company distributes paper that works specifically in ink-jet
 printers (like the DeskWriter). Their address is:
 
 Box 305
 East Cambridge, MA  02141
 FAX: (617) 394-0823
 Orders: (800) 235-4538
 Support: (617) 394-0820
 
*Cross Point Halopaque Vellum?GOOD-EXCELLENT 24lb?$9/ream
  Howard Paper Vellum Text?GOOD-EXCELLENT 28lb?$13/ream
  Both of these recycled papers are from "Earthcare"
 
*Xerox 5400 paper provides excellent results when used on the "back" side.
*Hammermill  Savings DP 50% recycled paper is very good
*XEROX 4024 was recommended by one respondent
*Classic Laid and Classic Crest provide excellent results but are expensive
 
I should also add one additional thing. I've received many responses
and I've seen some posted that recommended trying both sides of the
paper. From my experience with literally, dozens of types of paper,
I can confidently say that I haven't found the 'right' side to be
significantly better. If one side of the paper didn't work well, then
the other side usually didn't work well.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 09:58:02 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <IRBLOOM@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: DOS viruses on a Mac (A)

On Mon, 06 Apr, Marshall Rosenstein asked:

>I'm using Access PC on my Macintosh, which allows me to have DOS format-
>ted floppies appear on my desktop.  What is the chance that I can catch
>a DOS virus this way?

Zero. DOS viruses affect only MS/DOS systems and files. If, on the other
hand, you were using SoftPC, your MS/DOS logical hard drive and files
could be infected.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:57:46 MST
From: DWANDERER@MISVAX.MIS.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Dove Computer Corporation (Q)

Does anyone have an internet address for Dove computer company?  I want to
write them to see if they plan on coming out with a faster data modem 
part of their fax plus setup.

Thanks
Dave
DWANDERER@mis.arizona.edu

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 21:37:04 PLT
From: Paul Brians <BRIANS@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Subject: Farming Software (Q)

Is there any farm management software for the Mac?

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:17:40 -0400
From: hallcb@wfunet.wfu.edu (Christian B. Hall)
Subject: Floppy desktop files (Q)

Is there any way to remove the desktop file from a floppy without having to
format the disk? In other words, if i have a 1.44MB floppy, copy 800K worth
of junk onto it, and immediately trash it...it leaves 12K or something on
the disk (in the form of a desktop file).

ResEdit won't kill it because the file is automatically in use if the disk
is in the machine. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. christian.


--hallcb@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 15:57 EST
From: <GORDON%FAIR1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: IIf Postscript Error

Hello,

We keep getting a postscript printer error on a MAC SE/30, using Mac Write II,
on an Appletalk Network, on a Laser Writer IIf, with System 7.  Other printing
problems include missing pages, and incorrect spacing.  The problems are
generally intermittant.  Reoccuring problems can be solved by restarting the
printer and the MAC.

Other computers hooked up to the network include System 7 and System 6.08
machines.  Only the one machine has the problem.

The system 7 tuneup has not been installed and the problem is intermittant.
I just can not seem to pin point the problem.

Any ideas? I need help.

Thanks,

Gordon Oppenheimer
 UNIX Lab Manager, Academic Computing Services, Fairfield University

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 23:39:59 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: InUse cdev

On 6 Apr 92 08:30:50 GMT you said:
>A lot of people have been asking about the extension called
>InUse which gives the functionality of Norton's Disklight.

InUse is fine as far as it goes, but it does NOT duplicate the
functionality of DiskLight.  Specifically, InUse does not track floppy
drive activity at all, and doesn't indicate whether hard disk access is
read or write (DiskLight indicate R/W for both hard disk volumes and the
floppy drive - the small icon distinguishes between drive types).

------------------------------

Date: 7 Apr 92 10:06:00 EDT
From: "CHEINAN M MARKS" <marks1@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Isopropyl Alcohol Preferred for Cleaning (A)

***
Is there any special reason to use Isopropyl alcohol, rather than methanol,
which is much more easily available?
***

Methanol is poisonous if ingested.  It can kill you or blind you if you drink
enough.  Isopropyl alcohol, while not safe to drink, will probably only make
you sick.  I suspect it will take much more to really harm you.  Remeber Kitty
Dukakis?  She was hospitalized after drinking ispropyl alcohol, methanol may
well have killed her.

I think isopropyl alcohol is much easier to get (for the reason mentioned
above).  Any drug store will carry it, and I've seen commercial spray on glass
cleaners which contain it as a main ingredient.  Ask for "rubbing alcohol."  I
think you'd need to go to a hardware store or industrial solvent supplier to
get methanol, and it may contain some junk to denature it, which may do nasty
things to your circuit boards.

Methanol is somewhat more corrosive, although this is less of a factor when
using a little bit for a second or two, which immediately evaporates, as
opposed to soaking something in it.

Note the both are VERY FLAMMABLE!  Don't smoke or use these products near an
open flame (This should be obvious, but you never know...)  Read the labels
and do or don't do what they say.

Given a choice, I would recommend isopropyl alcohol as a contact cleaner.

					Cheinan Marks (Ph.D. Chemical Eng.)

Synonyms:  Isopropyl alcohol -- 2-Propanol, rubbing alcohol.

Methanol - Methyl alcohol, wood alcohol

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 09:00:06 -0400
From: bewilson@Kodak.COM (Bruce E. Wilson, ECCR-PA, B95-A, X8886 (bewilson@kodak.com))
Subject: Keep spell check dictionaries reasonably sized (C)

Several comments (and a few flames) have been going round recently about
speling (:-)) checkers and dictionaries.  In general, I agree with the
suggestions about adding some words to the dictionaries (although I
for one will almost certainly never use "Nisei"; it simply doesn't
fit into the chemistry technical reports I generally am writing).  The
problem is that if you make a dictionary which suits me, it almost
certainly will screw up someone else, who uses a different technical
lexicon.

My comment is simply this--let's not get too out of hand with creating 
multi-megabyte dictionaries, for two reasons.  The first is that they
can take up too much disk space and the second is that the more words
you put into the dictionary, the greater the chance that an incorrectly
spelled word will match another (unintended) word.  Some improvement
it good, but there is a reason for user dictionaries and third party 
products.

P.S.  Since I play word games regularly, Nisei to nips is not at all
difficult.  In fact, it is similar to a mistake I make regularly.  Simply
add a "p" before the "s" and a space after it.  In other words, the algorithm
finds a match which is a "dropped letter and space" combination.

Bruce E. Wilson
bewilson@kodak.com

**Opinions herein expressed are MINE**

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 17:41:12 CST
From: "Robert J. Brenstein" <GA0095@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU>
Subject: kid-proof finder

Not so long ago, I read a note about a product that allows to control what
specific applications a Mac can run.  The purpose of that software was to
give some protection for people with children running games from accidently
damaging something important.  I just had a user asking me about such very
product, but of course, I don't recall what it was.  Could someone send me
the info or refer to proper issue of info-mac digest?

Robert ga0095@siucvmb.bitnet or ga0095@siucvmb.siu.edu

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 13:36:34 EDT
From: Steve Greenfield <FEATS%VTVM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Kids Software

In looking at the new MacWarehouse catalog I see some children's software.
I was wondering if you Mac users out there might critique some or all of
the following?  I no longer belong to this list so could you please send
responses to me directly and I will post to the list any significant findings.

1)  'The Playroom 2.0', from Broderbund.

2)  '"Talking" Once Upon a Time..., Volume I, II, III', from Compu-Teach.

3)  'Reading Maze', from Great Wave.

Thank you in advance!

- feats@vtvm1            (bitnet)
  feats@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu  (internet)

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:08 EDT
From: "Face it, you are not always what you wear." <G_WERNER@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU>
Subject: LC 2 Question.

Hello once again....


I have a simple question for myself this time....

I am an owner of a Mac LC.  Now I have seen/heard that the Mac LC 2 is out.

1)  IS this LC 2 an equivalent/better than the Mac SI?

2)  Does the LC 2 support VM?...i.e. does it have a PMMU chip?

3)  Is the LC 2 a true 0030 machine?

4)  Will upgrades from an LC to an LC 2 be made available?  and do y'all think 
that they will be expensive?

Thanks a lot...

Gordon Werner

G_WERNER@acc.haverford.edu     /   G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu

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Date: 7 Apr 92 06:49:29 GMT
From: lingerke@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Raymond Luxury Yacht)
Subject: Lots of Sound Tracker Songs...

I have almost 20 megs of Sound Tracker songs.  I've started uploading
them to Sumex (the four archives and several individual songs).  But,
due to the size limit of uploads, I can't really upload more than 5
a week.

I want to make these accessible as soon as possible, but I will be going
home for the summer in under a month and (more than likely) will not have
access to the Internet.

I've considered setting up a mail server, but I doubt that Purdue University
would approve.  Any ideas where else I can upload, or would people rather
just get them from the Amiga Archives and convert them themselves?

I've received a lot of mail saying that they liked having them posted to
Sumex.

I'm open to suggestions.

Ken

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:20 EDT
From: "Face it, you are not always what you wear." <G_WERNER@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU>
Subject: Mac 2 -- more questions

Hello once more....


I have another question....

I know that the Mac FX/CX are not new macs...so in order to be 32Bit-clean you 
need to use the control panel MODE-32 from apple/conectrix....

However, once this is installed on the system, is it possible to put 16MB simms 
in the FX/CX?...I figure that the CX/FX have about 8 to 10 slots 
respectively...giving a possible total of 128MB to 160MB or so (not incld. 
Virtual Memory...) am I right on this? or not...

Thanks

Gordon Werner   ---> G_WERNER@acc.haverford.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:05 EDT
From: "Face it, you are not always what you wear." <G_WERNER@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU>
Subject: Mac 2 Questions....

Hello there.....


My father is looking to buy a new or used Mac 2.

Right now he has really good offers for either a Mac CX, a Mac CI, and a Mac FX.

However, before he buys one of them, he asked me to post a few questions on the 
net.

First of all, Supposedly the Mac CI can be upgraded to a Quadra 700...i.e. they 
share the same size cabinet, etc...My question is, can the Mac CX be upgraded to 
a Quadra 700 also? or does it have to be upgraded to a Mac CI first?

Second of all, which mac 2s can be placed on their sides?

I know that the Mac CI can but can the CX and the FX?  Space is an important 
question since he has an office full of paperwork and books, etc....

Third, he is considering getting the VideoSpigot from SuperMac to use in the 
creation of multi-media presentations.  

Concerning the VideoSpigot, does it digitize both Video AND Audio? or does it 
only digitize Video.  I have seen people mentioning both the VideoSpigot and the 
MacRecorder when creating QuickTime videos, but some mention that they did it 
with just the VideoSpigot.

Second...is there any difference between the NUBUS CARD version of VideoSpigot 
and the VideoSpigot Pro? (that is besides price?)

Third, is there something better than the VideoSpigot which retails for around 
the same price?

As for video display...what type of video card should he get...one which 
displays 24bit color? or just the regular Apple Macintosh Color Video Display 
card?  (BTW is the apple card only 8bit or is it just 4bit?)

Finally, my father is also looking into buying a removable 128MB Optical drive.  
Lately I have heard rumors that there will soon be a 300+ version of the 3.5" 
removable optical disk storage system
 which will make the 128MB models obsolete.  Is this true?  Should he hold off 
in his purchase? or will they be compatable?

I thank everyone who responds in advance....

respo~rnses can be e-mailed to --->  G_WERNER@acc.haverford
.edu
                        or to ---->  G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu


Thanks again.

Gordon Werner.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 00:42:18 CDT
From: The Internet MacOracle <WRUSS00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject: MacOracle Replies Re: "Windows?" (second attempt...)

The MacOracle has pondered your question deeply. You asked:

>I just saw this commercial on TV by a company called "Microsoft".
>It was an ad for a product called "Windows" (I think). It said
>that the average operation on a PC took twenty keystrokes, but
>those could be replaced by one "point and click". BLEW ME AWAY!!!
>Does anyone have any more information on this "point and click"
>stuff? Is it for real? It's a great concept, but it really looks
>like a toy, and I don't see how anyone could get any real work
>done using it. How long can this "Microsoft" company survive
>so far out on the cutting edge? Inquiring minds wanna know!
>
>                             -- Joel "80 column" Cunnigham
>
>P.S. Will this "Windows" thing run on my Sinclair Z-80?

The MacOracle replies:


} Dear "80 column",
}
} Sadly, this 'toy' has gone from video aberration to national
} obsession. This 'Microsoft' company, which you refer to, has gone from
} a garage-based hacker bunch to a multibillion dolalr organization with
} agencies (and agents...) spanning the globe. Frankly, I myself have
} wondered (that's not easy, since I'm omniscient you know) how far
} Microsoft would go in its pursuit of graphical interfaces.
} Fortunately, since I am the Internet MacOracle, I know all and see the
} future. I'll just glance into my crystal VT100 and conjure up some
} predictions for the future...
}
} *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
}
} (Bzzt. Bzzt. VT100 screen waves and crackles, and a spinning-newspaper
} like display reveals a room, quite dark except for the bound and
} gagged figure in the center, underneath a powerful spotlight. It's
} John Sculley! Darkened figures walk around him menacingly.)
}
} Dark Figure: So, Johnny boy, it's finally come down to you and me. Ya
} know, it's kind of... poetic irony? After all, you guys got started
} with a nifty piece of new hardware, an' I got started with a five-star
} operating system...
}
} Person in Backgound: Five-star? <chuckle>
}
} DF: Hey! Shaddup, you! Anyways, Johnny, ya know that ever since
} Windows NT went down the toilet, we've been lookin' for a replacement
} GUI for our MIPS ACE machines. We finally got controlling interest in
} Big Blue, but it wasn't enough. Hard to believe, since Windows was
} such a fantastic success.
}
} PiB: Fantastic? Ha ha <chuckle>
}
} DF: Look, you, I don't need you anyway! Luigi! Boris! Take this ape
} downstairs and teach him some manners. Give him to the DOS 7.1
} beta-testing crew!
}
} PiB: Manners? No, look, we're pals, ain't we, no no not that...
}
} (VT100 focuses on the terrified face of John Akers, former(?) CEO of
} IBM, as two ham-fisted giants drag him off into the darkness.)
}
} DF: So, Johnny, you know why you're here. You know what we need, and
} I'm confident that we can work out an arrangement that will satisfy us
} both.
}
} (John Sculley manages to work the gag out of his mouth.)
}
} JS: Never! I'll never give you the ROMs! They're the core of every
} Mac...
}
} (DF slaps JS.)
}
} DF: You never learn, do ya John? Look, I'm only a few thousand shares
} from controlling interest in your fruitcake operation. You can end up
} like our friend Mr. Akers there, or you can do things the easy way.
} Sign my contract, and we all walk away winners. I get Apple, and you
} get to stay CEO. Refuse, and well, I'll put in my own CEO. In fact,
} I've got him all lined up and ready to go. Stevie?
}
} (Another figure emerges. It's Steve Jobs!)
}
} DF: Ever since Stevie here had to declare chapter 11, he's been
} hankering to get back at the helm of Apple. You see, I hold all the
} cards. Ha ha ha... HA HA HA HA!
}
} (DF brings head back in a protracted, bellowing laugh. The VT100 zooms
} close, and we see that it's Bill Gates, founder and chairman of
} Microsoft!)
}
} *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
}
} Hmm, actually, I had rather hoped it would be someone more menacing,
} like Manuel Noriega or Lenin or somebowdy. Ah well, history is often
} underwhelming. I guess that answers your question.
}
} You owe the MacOracle an Apple-compliant version of all Microsoft
} products. And I do NOT make apologies to John C. Dvorak. I'm
} omniscient, and I thought of it first!
}
} P.S. Only if you plug your Sinclair into an IBM-compatible.

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 23:29:03 EDT
From: s0067284@Calvin.EDU (Jeffrey Veen)
Subject: Mail order Macintosh [Q]

A friend of mine is interested in buying a Classic with a Stylewriter.  In 
the back of MacUser, there is a company advertising called MacMarket.  Does
anyone have any experience with this company?  They seem to have the best
prices.

Any one know of any other mail order companies that sell systems resonably that
are reputable?

Please E-Mail responses.     Thanks.

Jeff.
s0067284@calvin.edu

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 09:24:43 EDT
From: haushalt@research.nj.nec.com	(Robert C. Haushalter)
Subject: methanol vs. isopropanol

On Mon, 6 Apr 92 10:05:01 -0700 Leslie_Ballentine@sfu.ca posts:

>           Cleaning Contacts (C)
> We now find that Isopropyl alcohol works the best on the gold
>contacts.
>Rick Sutcliffe
>Trinity Western University
>
Is there any special reason to use Isopropyl alcohol, rather than methanol,
which is much more easily available?


Leslie: You can buy isoprpopyl alcohol in any grocery store.  It's called
"rubbing alcohol".  It comes as a 70:30 mixture with water.  The only common source I know of for methanol is in "dry gas" for gas line antifreeze and
removing water from fuel lines...but this stuff usually has several other 
additives in addition to the methanol.
	Both of these materials are potentially dangerous chemicals from
both a toxicolological and flammibility standpoints but the methanol is
worse because:
(1) At room temp, methanol has ca. 400mm of vapor pressure while isopropyl
alcohol has only 40mm.  As a crude approximation for the lay person, it means methanol evaporates 10 times faster than isopropyl alcohol.  You haave to breath 
in 10 times the vapors when using it. If it evbaporates too fast, you can't
easily dissolve anything into it before it evaporates off the Q-tips or
other cleaning tool.
(2) While the LD50's for these two alcohols are approximately equal, the greater
vapor pressure of the methanol exposes you too greater concentrations per unit time.
(3)  Since both materials are extremely flammable, the higher vapor pressure of the methanol again presents a greater hazard as it generates more vapors per unit time.
(4) Deaths have been reported from the ingestion of as little as 30mL of
methanol (see Merck Index, under methanol) which is about a mouthful!
(5) At doses less than the fatal amount, methanol can severly damage nerves.
Ingestion of relatively small amounts can damage your optic nerve and lead to
sight damage.

Both materials are also absorbed thru your skin at a very rapid rate.

I hope this info is useful to all the contact cleaners out there!

Bob

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:49:14 -0600
From: igorl@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Igor Livshits)
Subject: Modem Cable Pinout Needed

>Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:28:49 GMT
>From: elliott@cs.wisc.edu (James Elliott)
>Subject: Modem Cable Pinout Needed
>
>Here's the complete connection list, which works well with almost any
>application where you want hardware handshaking. It was provided to my
>by Rolf Hahn, rolf@roh.in-berlin.de, and turns out to be the same
>wiring used by the cable I bought from Maya Co

James Elliott's diagram appears to be correct.  The "official" pin-out from
Apple may be found as a PICT resource inside the Apple Modem Tool.  It is
id#20000, and may be viewed through ResEdit.  The picture may be useful as
it shows the pin numbers for both connectors; although, most connectors
will probably have those number molded in.

Igor


[A somewhat easier way to view the PICT is to use Balloon Help. There is
 a region in the tool configuration dialog that will show it. (Although
 the Balloon-o-phobes who have gotten rid of the help menu to preserve
 those precious tens of pixels are out of luck....) -Bill]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 21:29:38 PDT
From: Les.Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Modem Cable Pinout Needed (A)

Thank you to the following people for responding to my query for
pinouts for a Macintosh high-speed modem cable:
 
Edward Reid, George Chow, Mike Alexander, gustilo@pobox.upenn.edu,
and straz@cambridge.apple.com.
 
One of the best tips is that the ZTERM 0.9 DOCUMENTATION CONTAINS
ILLUSTRATED DIAGRAMS - a very handy reference indeed!
 
The consensus is:
 
MACINTOSH HARDWARE FLOW CONTROL (RTS/CTS) MODEM CABLE:
 
Macintosh              Modem
mini DIN-8             DB-25
 
1 HSKO --------------- 4 RTS (also 20-DTR may be connected)
2 HSKI --------------- 5 CTS
3 TXD- --------------- 2 TD
4 GND  --------------- 7 GND (also 1-GND may be connected)
5 RXD- --------------- 3 RD
6 TXD+ (not connected)
7 GPi  --------------- 8 DCD
8 RXD+ --------------- 7 GND (also 1-GND may be connected)
 
Macintosh pin 1 need only be connected to Modem pin 4 for RTS/CTS
flow control. Modem pin 20 is used for DTR. If pin 20 is not
connected, then you lose hardware hang-up capability. I would have
thought that connecting DTR to HSKO when it is used for hardware
flow control would be a problem, but apparently it works.
 
Macintosh pins 4 and 8 can also be connected to modem pin 1, which
is just another ground pin.
 
Macintosh pin 7 is not used on the Mac Plus, Classic, LC, or IIsi
(others?). It is unlikely to be used by any modem software, so it is
definitely an optional connection.
 
Macintosh pin 8, according to the ZTerm documentation, needs to be
connected to ground for RS-232 emulation. I made a cable without
this pin connected and it worked just fine, so I don't know that it
is really necessary. I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO HEAR THE COMPLETE
STORY ON THIS.
 
STANDARD MACINTOSH MODEM CABLE:
 
Mac DIN-8              Modem DB-25
 
1 HSKO --------------- 20 DTR
2 HSKI --------------- 8 CTS (also 6-DSR on some cables)
3 TXD- --------------- 2 TD
4 GND  --------------- 7 GND (also 1-GND on some cables)
5 RXD- --------------- 3 RD
6 TXD+ (not connected)
7 GPi  (not connected)
8 RXD+ --------------- 7 GND (also 1-GND on some cables)
 
Given the above, you people with soldering irons can convert an
ordinary cable to a hardware flow control cable at the DB-25 end.
Since most cables are molded, you can either make an adapter or cut
off the DB-25 end and buy a new DB-25 connector.
 
There may be a problem having Mac pin 2 connected to Modem pin 5, 8
and 6 simultaneously. Anyone know if this is OK or not?

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:24:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: FLC3527@TAMXRD.TAMU.EDU (Trey Campbell)
Subject: More Disk Space (C)

Howdy, all--

Here are a few observations about More Disk Space (MDS), a new hard disk 
expansion utility from Alysis. Some applications compress well using MDSUs
algorithm, other donUt. Most documents seem to occupy around 50% as much
space, though there is a bit of variation here as well. Here are some
representative numbers for applications:
  Canvas 2.1.1		700K before, 384K after ( 45.1% )
  FileMaker II		383K before, 244K after ( 36.3% )
  MS Excel 2.2a		728K before, 726K after ( <1% )
  MS Word 4.0d		670K before, 665K after ( <1% )
  Quicken 3.0 		663K before, 350K after ( 47.2% )
  ResEdit 2.1.1		643K before, 594K after ( 7.6% )
  THINK C 5.0.2		501K before, 323K after ( 35.5% )
  WriteNow 2.2wm	211K before, 211K after ( 0% )

As you can see, it does pretty well on "RnormalS" applications. Not so welfor
Excel and Word (>90% PCOD and custom resources), ResEdit (most resources
already compressed), and WriteNow (written entirely in assembly language, it
doesnUt get much tighter)

I think that itUs important when making comparisons to recognize the
differences in software design. Though both MDS and AutoDoubler are aimed at
the same niche (on-the-fly compression), their approaches are very different
-- the former using resource compression and the latter, apparently, a more
general compression algorithm. Which one is better? I guess that depends on
what youUre using it for and what you expect it to do. Apparently AutoDouble
gives you better compression is some cases (not having used it, I donUt know
how often or by how much), but my impression from what I have read here, and
in print, is that application launching is uniformly slower. That is not the
case with applications compressed using MDS -- the applications that I use
(and they are probably a representative cross-section) launch as fast, or
faster, in their compressed forms.

As far as RsafetyS goes, MDS gives you the option to automatically decompre
files when they are copied by the Finder, or not. YouUre in control.
Applications can be made transportable, again, your choice. Also the
licensing agreement permits you to install the decompress-only portion of MDS
on as many computers as you like. Lastly, MDS allows you to make
auto-extracting archives for exchanging files with others (reduced size of MS
Word 4.0d to 513K in auto-extracting archive).

BTW, MDS reduced my used space from 44.6 Mb to 31.2 Mb (a savings of 13.4 Mb
or 30%)--big smile!

I have no ties to Alysis, other than as a satisfied customer, and IUm 
presenting this information so you have something to base your decisions beside
idle speculation. If youUre waiting for an RobjectiveS source for a
comparison, I expect youUll have to wait until Aladdin ships SpaceSaver.

Trey Campbell, Texas A&M University

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 16:39:51 PDT
From: Robert Pierce <piercer@nv-ngnet.army.mil>
Subject: No need for help or application icons?

I just last night upgraded my SE to system 7 and I love it so far (why
did I wait so long?) I've been using Apollo for a few weeks and  
absolutely love it. Now that I'm using S7 and have all the features of
Apollo available how can I get rid of the help and application switching
icons on the right side of the menu bar? I don't perceive the need for
either one and I could use the extra space. Is their one or a combin-
ation of utils that will do this? (In reality I just as soon replace   
the apple menu with Apollo but that may be asking too much!)

Second question. Does anyone know if the Apple Garamond type family   
is available to purchase? Our local dealer has the whole Adobe family
on their Quadra and they don't know the answer. Is it legal to use?
I think its one of the most attractive business fonts I've ever seen 
and would like to get it. Anyone know the scoop?

As always, thanks in advance for your help.
Robert Pierce, University of Nevada, Reno

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 14:17:14 -0500
From: rinella@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Thanos)
Subject: Norton Utilities (C)

Hello all,
	a couple of days ago I had posted a query about Norton Utilities
"finding" the fixes Apple's new tune-up v1.1 does for the disappearing
folder problem.  The fact of the matter is that it does not.  I happened
to have an unresoved alias, or something along those lines, that
tech. support helped me work out with the Norton Disk Editor.

A bit o' info. that I picked up from my toll call that others might
find useful is that the update to Norton Utilities was just announced
a few days ago.  It will be $39 for registered user of N.U.
If one purchased N.U. after Feb. 14, 1992 then the upgrade is free.

The customer service # to order the upgrade is 1-800-441-7234 (in U.S.)
and 408-252-3570 (outside U.S.)

The person I talked with said that the updates would start shipping
in a couple of weeks but that they were taking your orders now.

Thanks to Les.Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca & wadew@ducvax.auburn.edu for being
the only two who took the time to reply to my original post.

Joe Rinella
rinella@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 10:10:38 EDT
From: rlbro@mvax.cc.conncoll.edu (Roger Brooks)
Subject: Printing Greys

Several issues ago, I asked for help on what seems a simple issue: Is 
there a PD/SW/Comm paint or draw program that will produce good
quality greys on a Persoanl LaserWriter LS (i.e., QuickDraw, not
PostScript).  I received only one suggestion, IMAGE, but I was informed
that it will only run on a 24-bit Mac.

So I ask again: running a IIsi with 5 meg RAM hooked to a Personal Laser-
Writer (re-tuned system 7), which paint or draw program will map all those
wonderfull colors people seem to love into relatively smooth greys?

Thanks in advance for the suggestions; send them directly to me and I'll
summarize for INFO-MAC.

Best wishes

Roger Brooks
Connecticut College

rlbro@mvax.cc.conncoll.edu

------------------------------

Date: 07 Apr 92 20:18 GMT
From: ENDPOINT@AppleLink.Apple.COM (ENDPOINT! Mktg Info Sys, M Cobb,PAS)
Subject: RE- Dos virus on Mac?

Attn:   o Info-Mac Digest
SentBy: Robert Hess
 
                       Subject:                               Time:12:08 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          RE: Dos virus on Mac?                  Date:4/7/92
The only thing that a DOS virus can do to your Mac is hurt your DOS files when
you are running under DOS, such as in SoftPC. Simply mounting an infected DOS
disk on your Mac cannot pass the virus on because you're not a PC; the code
which must be executed for the virus to "move" isn't Mac code.
 
A virus written in 80x86 code would be gibberish to your Mac's 680x0 and an
environment like SoftPC doesn't make the link between its own simulated OS and
the Mac's OS to such an extent that the modification of the Mac system would
be possible.
 
You COULD, however, lose DOS files (or Mac files mounted in SoftPC as drives)
to a DOS virus while you were running SoftPC. But your System would be safe
because, again, without SoftPC running you're a Mac, not a PC, so the virus'
code is gibberish to your Mac. And, once again, simply mounting a PC disk on
your desktop is safe.
 
Robert Hess
 

------------------------------

Date: 07 Apr 92 20:11 GMT
From: ENDPOINT@AppleLink.Apple.COM (ENDPOINT! Mktg Info Sys, M Cobb,PAS)
Subject: RE- Panasonic 6-CDROM

Attn:   o Info-Mac Digest
SentBy: Robert Hess
 
                       Subject:                               Time:12:04 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          RE: Panasonic 6-CDROM                  Date:4/7/92
I have used devices like this and was happy, mostly. It is vital that you get
SpeedyCD (current version 1.2.2, I believe), however. These devices do,
indeed, mount all 6 disks on the desktop; when you go to look at their
contents, however, the CDROM must move that disc online, a time-consuming
process. SpeedyCD saves the contents of all of the CDs to hard disk-based
files, allowing users to browse (and even modify!) the CDs without the CDs
themselves having to be mounted until the user actually opens a
file/application on a CD.
 
Robert Hess
 

------------------------------

Date: 07 Apr 92 20:11 GMT
From: ENDPOINT@AppleLink.Apple.COM (ENDPOINT! Mktg Info Sys, M Cobb,PAS)
Subject: RE- Problem with AppleSha

Attn:   o Info-Mac Digest
SentBy: Robert Hess
 
                       Subject:                               Time:12:07 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          RE: Problem with AppleShare            Date:4/7/92
This is a complete shot in the dark and I doubt that it is true, but here's a
possibility:
 
The invisible icons in System 7 are actually named "Icon" plus a carriage
return ("Icon\13"), not just "Icon". Maybe AppleShare 2 doesn't like this...(I
seriously doubt it but weirder things have happened).
 
Robert Hess
 

------------------------------

Date: 07 Apr 92 20:29 GMT
From: ENDPOINT@AppleLink.Apple.COM (ENDPOINT! Mktg Info Sys, M Cobb,PAS)
Subject: RE- SCSI-Accellerator for

Attn:   o Info-Mac Digest
SentBy: Robert Hess
 
                       Subject:                               Time:12:25 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          RE: SCSI-Accellerator for System 7.0.1 Date:4/7/92
I think that the accellerator for which Bob Shew is looking was designed (long
ago) exclusively for the Mac Plus' SCSI port and for no other Mac, regardless
of System version.
 
Robert Hess
 

------------------------------

Date: 07 Apr 92 20:18 GMT
From: ENDPOINT@AppleLink.Apple.COM (ENDPOINT! Mktg Info Sys, M Cobb,PAS)
Subject: RE- Voyager Expanded Book

Attn:   o Info-Mac Digest
SentBy: Robert Hess
 
                       Subject:                               Time:12:13 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          RE: Voyager Expanded Books             Date:4/7/92
I just wanted to toss in my two cents and say that the Voyager books are
excellent. The company has exceptionally high quality standards (their
Criterion LaserDisc collection is the standard to which discs are compared)
and the Expanded Books are no exception. (and I don't especially like
HyperCard-based interfaces)
 
Robert Hess
 

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 11:52:29 EDT
From: baim@aaec1.aaec.com
Subject: SD "fact"

Adam Engst writes
>People do get very emotional about software to which they have entrusted
>all of their data, but one simple fact that ranks DiskDoubler
>over SuperDisk is that SuperDisk can corrupt files. It's not necessarily
>a common thing to have happen, but it's a piece of cake to reproduce.
>All other interface issues aside, I see corruption as a major flaw
>in SuperDisk's implementation.

This is the second time Adam has submitted this "fact".  What is the "piece
of cake" procedure for reproducing the file corruption?  Is there truly no
recovery procedure?  Is the alleged bug still in the current version of
SuperDisk?  Has it actually bitten anyone?  Does AD et al avoid the same
problem under the same conditions?  Has Adam verified any of this himself
or is this another "I heard" story?

People have criticized my postings but this is pure hand-grenade style
"reporting".  Put the pin back in this one Adam before you blow your own
foot off (especially if your foot is in your mouth at the time :-).

Paul

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:17:34 -0600
From: mcguire@utkvx.utk.edu
Subject: Speed Disk (R)

I wanted to report my experience with Speed Disk 1.1.  It has been very
reliable and not given us a problem.  I think it helped me during the
System-7-missing-folder mess.  After Speed Disk Optimized my hard disk, the
problems that I had been experiencing disappeared.  Of course now we have
Tune-Up 1.1. 

I recently used Speed Disk on a IIfx w/20mb, an SE30 w/8MB and a IIci
w/5MB.  The latter two are both servers.  The disks (an 80 and a 330
respectively) on the ci and fx were badly fragmented.  Speed Disk worked to
completion with not problems.  All were running System 7.0.1 Tuned.

This is probably coals to Newcastle but in using Speed Disk you MUST
startup from a disk other than the one you want to optimize.  I use my
System Tools disk.

And just remember, it's only my opinion.  Mileage may vary.

Michael A. McGuire,  MCGUIRE@UTKVX.UTK.EDU

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 10:14 EST
From: FNELSON%OBERLIN.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Spell check trivia

While I was updating some catalog copy I omitted the hyphen from "noncourse"
as in "non-course requirements."  When I ran the spelling checker in Word 4.0
it suggested "knockwurst."  Who says computers don't have a sense of humor.

Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Program
Conservatory of Music
Oberlin, OH 44074
(216) 775-8223
fnelson@oberlin.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 8:32:17 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil>
Subject: Strange Adresses and 'Second Class Citizens'

ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid) writes:

> The Info-Mac Digest population largely consists of second-class network
> citizens.  Those with *real* (tm) net access can depend on comp.sys.mac.apps,
> csm.system, csm.hardware, etc.  The very fact that people are depending on 
> this digest is sign enough that they don't have the best in connectivity.

Well, that's a little brash, isn't it? I mean, I'm posting this from
claudius.pica.army.mil, with IP address 129.139.68.7. I *think* that
means that I'm well connected (but I've only been at this for 6 years
or so, and might be wrong [not]).

Did it ever occur to you that not everyone in the world runs netnews?
And that the reasons for that tend, largely, to be political?
And that you don't even need to be IP connected to run news, anyhow?
Or mail for that matter?

Personally, I don't *depend* on any of the mac groups on usenet, simply
cuz the signal/noise ratio is fairly astronomical. Look carefully at one of
the current threads, which revolves around the "fact" that Apple is
abandoning folks with 800k disk drives by not making 7.0.1 available
on 800k disk. In spite of the fact that it has been *repeatedly*
posted that 7.0.1 was released to support Quadra and Powerbook users
(and those idiots who simply _have_ to use the latest system rev).

Give me a break.
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil

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Date: 7 Apr 92 15:33:57 GMT
From: navsaria@bu-pub.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria)
Subject: StyleWriter Drivers

Howdy!  I have been cursing out my StyleWriter recently because of a spate
of problems where I go to print and the computer tells me that I must select
a printer in the Chooser.  I go to the Chooser, and click on "StyleWriter" and
it tells me "Sorry, StyleWriter can not be used."  Grrrr....

   Has anyone else had this problem?  I have several versions of the drivers,
and the problem seems to arise with the later ones.  Put it this way:

   What are the version numbers of the Chooser, PrintMonitor, Backgrounder,
and anything else necessary needed to let StyleWriter 7.2.2 run properly?

   This is driving me nuts!!!  I'd really appreciate any help.  Thanks!

				Dipesh Navsaria (navsaria@bu-pub.bu.edu)

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 18:37:51 PDT
From: bear@tony.ucsb.edu (Cedric Bhihe)
Subject: submission for posting

[Moderator: I have a signature respecting your specfications now.
Please post with the title :DiskCopy42vsRadiusRocket.  Thank you ]
		

I recently posted a call for help about (-17) error messages in 100% of the
cases when using Apple Disk Duplicator v4.2 on a Mac II equipped with a Radius
Rocket, 32 bit enabled, 20 Mb RAM, system 7.01.

I got a couple of responses one of which from Andy Schmitt :
>>
The Apple disk duplicator software is incompatible with the rocket.Reboot
with the rocket software off & you should be fine.  (The I/O error message
translates to "controlErr : Driver can't respond to Control call" & I think
its due to the weird & obnoxious BEEP that the software makes at that point
remember, the rocket has problems with sound causing software).
<<

Obviously rebooting everytime I want to use Disk Duplicator is not good. 
Does anyone know more about Disk Duplicator and could point toward 
the ressource I could possibly edit in order to prevent the call to the 
BEEP sound from being implemented ?

Respond directly to me. I will post the solution if it comes out at all.
Thank you.

Cedric Bhihe, Materials Department, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA 93106
tel. (805) 893-8869, fax. (805) 893-8486, email:bear@voodoo.physics.ucsb.edu

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 23:16:04 -0400
From: grabenst@umbc3.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein)
Subject: Sun sounds to Mac (Q)

        Thanks to Mr Martinez for the sun image to Mac ideas. Now does anyone
have any ideas on how to get Sun sounds to the Mac???
Thanks,
        Mike
ps - Mail me here  or better yet at ZMEG@AACC

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 08:26:48 PDT
From: Jack Repenning <jackr@dblues.wpd.sgi.com>
Subject: SuperDisk fact (tell me more)

In IMD 10/89, ace@tidbits.halcyon.com (Adam C. Engst) says:

	...one simple fact that ranks DiskDoubler over SuperDisk is
	that SuperDisk can corrupt files.

I agree that's crucial.  My head's spinning with all this discussion,
but I believe similar accusations have been hurled at AD (in
association with the Norton Utilities, perhaps?).

Please (Mr. Engst, and anyone else with facts in the matter), detail
what you know, such as what it takes to encounter the problem.

Jack Repenning
jackr@wpd.sgi.com

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 19:17:43 EST
From: ZMEG000 <ZMEG%AACC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: The new Apple II card (A)

    True type, personally, I don't think will ever die.
TT is aimed at an entirly different market than Post script
fonts. TT fonts allow apple to make cheap printers. Because
they own the rights to the software and the processing is
done in the computer not the printer. So the printer can be
quite dumb (and a dumb printer is cheap to make).

     The new IIe card v2.1 is for the new Mac LC II.
They had to make changes in it for the new LC II. The
Mac LC II has been released

Take care,
    Mike

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:17:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: Larry Rymal <lrymal@tenet.edu>
Subject: The new LC II PDS vs the LC 'Classic' PDS (Q)

	Can anyone shed some insight on advantages of the LC II's PDS
port vs that of the LC 020's?  For example, can one install a Micron 
video card on the LC II PDS?  Would this offer an advantage over any 
video card option that currently exists for the LC 020? Would the Micron 
video interface on an LC II, if installable, give 24 bit color?
	Straying away from the topic a bit....  Does anyone know if the
Sigma SCSI video interface option offers 'faster' video as compared to other 
SCSI video interface products such as the Radius product?
	
  Larry Rymal
  Texas Education Network
  lrymal@tenet.edu

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 11:21:54 EDT
From: baim@aaec1.aaec.com
Subject: TimeServer request

tgarcia@unixg.ubc.ca mentioned a time server/client package called
TimeServer
available on AOL.  Can someone with AOL access upload a copy to info-mac? 
Thanks.

Paul

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 11:52:36 EDT
From: baim@aaec1.aaec.com
Subject: TI microLaser vs. GCC BLB Elite (R)

I have had good luck with the TI MicroLaser.  The postscript is genuine
Adobe and the printer looks just like a LaserWriter to the Mac. The output
is crisper than that from our low-end LaserWriters but this may be ageing
of the mechanical hardware.  One warning though: the 1.5MB of memory that's
standard in the TI isn't enough for downloaded fonts or complex page
images.  I would definitely add a couple of Meg additional memory (~63$ per
1MB board, note: these are not SIMMs!).  The other thing to compare is
operating costs.  The TI uses a three-part system with different page-life
for each part.  The pieces are expensive, but the most changed part (the
toner cartridge) is the cheapest.  I haven't done any real cost per page
analysis though.

I haven't worked with the GCC at all.

Paul

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 10:18:41 IST
From: "Dr. Michael Silverstein" <MTRMS01%TECHNION.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Tune-Up Problems

I heard of someone elses bad experience with the new
Tune-Up too late...and this seems to repeat them...

Mac LC, 10M, FPU, Sys7 with old Tune-Up

Disk was checked, and error found and corrected,
and the new Tune-Up installed...

The problem was that the system folder (called 'System')
disappeared. The folder was found using the FIND in the
FILE menu, appeared and disappeared again.  Found again,
opened, and all the contents were there.  The contents of
the system folder were moved to a folder called
'System 7' and the new Tune Up was replaced with the
old Tune Up and restarted.  Everything went OK.
The old, empty system folder was found buried
in some other folder and trashed.

A different LC, system folder called 'System Folder'
and the new Tune Up was installed with no problems.

So....is this thing safe, when should it be used
or not be used....or should I wait before I
install it on the other computers...

May the TuneUp be with you

mike

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 13:09:07 PDT
From: gerhard@rana.usc.edu
Subject: TuneUp comments (C) & Word 5 problem (Q)

I wish to second the April 6 comments of Hisham Abboud.
I have seen a (admittedly hazy and not yet replicable)
number of problems crop up after installing v1.1 of the
Tuner, namely an increase in system crashes (from almost
none) and some very strange memory behavior from 
previously stable applications (Eudora comes to mind - it now
tells me at regular intervals that "You are low on memory -
close some windows NOW!"  when it is the only
application running in 8 Mb and the system says that
there are >5 Mb free).  Anyone else?

On a completely different topic:
I have been using Kalidagraph and Word 5.0 together (copy
graphs into Word, resize them and print them) with no 
problem until yesterday, when Word (while still *showing*
the graphs, even in Print Preview) ceased to print the axes and 
the actual graph contents, while still printing *all* text 
associated with the graphs.  This did not happen as an isolated 
incident with one graph, but with *all* graphs in *all* word
files.  I am >50% convinced that I've forgotten/changed something 
elementary, so if someone knows what's up, or has a suggestion,
please let me know.  Thanks.
Peter Gerhardstein (gerhard@rana.usc.edu)

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:08 EST
From: NJBLOCH%gallua.bitnet@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: two questions

Is there a Mac Quadra (I have the 700) users group/net anywhere?

I'm trying to figure out a way to hook into MCI Mail or the internet from
Argentina where I hope to take a notebook (IBM type unfortunately) to keep
connected electronically--anyone out there know about a) specic access
>From Cordoba, and b) electronic converter/adapter requirements?

Thanks.. send reply to: Nancy J. Bloch
                        Bitnet: NJBLOCH@GALLUA
                        Internet: njbloch@gallux.gallaudet.edu

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Date: 7 April 1992 16:22:05 CDT
From: "Stephen Kawalko  " <U40857%UICVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Why do a Mac SE and Mac II behave differently? (Q)

At home I have a Mac SE with the standard keyboard and 4MB of
memory. At work I use a Mac II with the extended keyboard and 8MB.
Both machines are running System 6.0.5 and Multifinder 6.1.5. I
have noticed the following differences in behavior between the two
machines.

  1. Command-back quote switches between open applications on the
     Mac SE but does nothing on the Mac II. On the Mac II, if
     MS Word is the current application and a file is open then a
     hyphen (or minus sign) is inserted at the current insertion
     point.

  2. If MS Word is running, double clicking on a MS Word file from
     the Finder opens the file on the Mac SE. However, on the
     Mac II the file is not opened and I receive the following
     message.

       Some "Microsoft Word" documents could not be opened or
       printed. Please open the documents from within the
       application.

  3. Double clicking on a self extracting archive created by
     Compact Pro causes the files to be extracted on the Mac SE
     while on the Mac II I receive the following message.

       There is not enough available memory

     If I turn Multifinder off then the self extracting archive
     operates properly on the Mac II.

Any ideas as to why the two machines are exhibiting different
behavior for the same operations?

Stephen Kawalko (u40857@uicvm.cc.uic.edu)

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 10:30:39 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.halcyon.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Word resets Mac

In Regards to your letter <9204070537.AA22116@sumax.seattleu.edu>:
> 	Hello!  I have heard the rumors about Word 5.0 crashing on
> various machines while in the midst of grammar checking but was
> told that this was _not_ the case on the Classic.  Well, I've had
> the WORD 5.0 running on my Classic for about 2 weeks and its completely
> reset itself (no warning!!!?!!) 4-5 times.  What's the word (pardon the
> pun) on this bug?  Any _other_ little nasties that I somehow missed??

It's known as buggy software.

Quite frankly I've found it quite easy to crash Word (restartting the
machine every time) in various ways on my wife's Classic. I don't
actually use the program, but do enjoy crashing it on occasion. One
definite conflict I've noticed is with the little known Polly MacBeep
>From Delta Tao. If you make Word beep too many times with Polly MacBeep
installed it restarts the Mac. (Polly MacBeep randomizes the beep
sound).

The grammar checker bug will be fixed in the next release or perhaps
even sooner (since it's just an external command) - I gather it was a
simple fix.

Overall, though, I'm not real impressed with the number of bugs in
Word 5. Software that takes two years to appear shouldn't have so
many troubles. Anyone got a list of all the bugs that people have
found so far?

cheers ... -Adam

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