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From: msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S Reno)
Subject: Outer Limits Marathon in August
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:43:02 GMT

Hello everyone, I'm back! Although you probably never noticed that I was
gone, oh well. Any way, I was away during the Outer Limits marathon on 
TNT in August (the 8th and 9th I believe). Well, I'm trying to get every 
episode and have taped all the past marathons. Sooooo....

I was wondering if any kind soul who taped the marathon could find it
in their hearts to copy their tapes for me. I'd pay all the expenses
and such. 

Thanks in advance,

--Matt t

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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of Computer Voices
Date: 30 Aug 92 02:08:29 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Aug29.193338.19457@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl> thomasp@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Thomas Payerle) writes:
>In article <9g69PB4w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> ekho.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
>>oneill@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill) writes:
>>  One final thing:  Slave's voice was done by the same actor who did 
>>Zen's voice, as well as Orac's!  I find it quite amusing when any of the 
>>computers argue with eachother... I'm imagining poor Peter Tuddingham 
>>(sp?) trying to coordinate with the voices and attempting to keep the 
>>laughter from interferring with his lines! :)
>Actually, I believe (someone with access to the programme guide can give
>details) that Peter Tuddingham also was in a play in which he played the
>voice of yet another computer.  Talk about type-casting.

And Peter Tuddenham also played assorted voices in Doctor Who, including
in "Ark In Space" a... (wait for it...) computer.  Funny thing is, somehow
none of them sound the same.



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From: rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld)
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:23:07 GMT

In article <15125@umd5.umd.edu> otten@quark.umd.edu (Neil Ottenstein) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.134559.20692@ulowell.ulowell.edu> oneill@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill) writes:
>>
>>To tell you the truth, unless they counted Zen, they at most had 6. The
>>"original" crew of the Liberator (after a few episodes) were Blake, Genna,
>>Avon, Gan, Villa, and Cally. So, was Zen really considered one of the seven?
>>
>
>Yes, Zen is counted as one of the 7 and I believe that Blake explicitly
>says so at some point.
>
Actually, if you include Zen, you have a bigger problem, because ORAC has
at least an order of magnitude more personality than Zen, and that would
make it eight!

I am a brand new B7 fan - In the last week, I have watched the first two
years, and just met (you know what I mean) Tarrent and Dayna (drool)

Is Vila really as stupid as he seems?  I can't quite figure him out?  It is
either *very* inconsistant writing, or too deep for me...

Sandy
"Not tonight dear, I'm reading..."
From: rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:26:28 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug26.110616.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> c8643631@cc.newcastle.edu.au (THE MAD DUCK) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.134559.20692@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, oneill@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill) writes:
>
>Actually, Gan (David Jackson) didn't want out but the producers decided that
>one person needed to die and after considering a short list of possibles
>(anyone except Jenna and Blake) they decided on Gan. Sad, really.
>	
Well, If you felt someone must die, of that crew -- who would you have killed?
Not Avon, I hope!  

Sandy
"Not tonight, dear... I'm reading!"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: Doctor Who to Still be on PBS?
Keywords: Doctor Who, PBS
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:22:12 GMT

ror1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Richard O. Rouse III) writes:
>With SFC picking up Doctor Who, does anyone know if PBS is still going
>to be able to show it?  I heard a long time ago they wouldn't, but I'm
>no certain right now. 
>And a while ago, there was talk on here about Shada.  Exactly how did the 
>BBC release this?  How many of the episodes were taped, anyway?  And 
>what's included in the package?

The SF channel will only be showing episodes/movies of the first 2 doctors.
These will be the old black and white ones.  The PBS will continue to show
their choice of doctor (the newer ones) so long as their budgets can handle it.
		Mystic
		(alex.soto@analog.com)
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: SF channel
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:59:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

electro@access.digex.com (Gary Ehrlich) writes:


> Out here in backwater Howard County we're doubly deprived.  Our cable
> system only decided to invest in a low-end 37 channel system.  We
> miss out on Comedy Central (MST3K) *and* the SF channel.

> We've even got VH-1 piggybacked on CNBC!

Here in NJ, we have a system in my area (Hudson County) that
piggybacks CNBC with MSG, VH-1 with PPV specials, but wastes
space for two spots for video commercials and a viewers guide.

NO Comedy Central. Sci-Fi, NOTHING.

I want choice.  I want Sci-Fi.  I want a real #@$%*& cable system!

There, now I feel better (NOT).


-- 
David De Trolio - (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
__________________________________________________

"We're sailing on the wind of better days"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: SF Channel anywhere?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:06:38 GMT

person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person ) writes:
>So is the sf channel gonna show anywhere?  I don't have cable, so I don't know about my local cableCON ( not a typo) system.  From reading the net I hear alot of people saying that they are NOT going to get SFC.  Is there anyone who IS going to get it?


I live in Boston (close to Brookline - I live in Roxbury to be exact) and I 
received something in the mail several weeks ago from my cable company - 
Cablevision of Brookline which said they will carry the Sci Fi channel starting 
sometime in September (3rd week ?).  I haven't seen anything else since then 
though.  I believe I saved the brochure though.  I will go look for it later
today.
	Mystic
	(alex.soto@analog.com)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 18:13:53 CDT
From: <U42595@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: SF channel
 <6L15PB5w164w@kryton.UUCP> <BtMxpB.JtG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>

I'm beginnning to wonder the same thing here in CHicago, I just called my cable
 company today, and was told by the customer service person, that they do not
have any channels available for the sci-fi channel. I find this hard to believe
, we have numerous public access channels, had all 3 networks for triple-cast e
tc.  WHy the hell can't we use one of them.  One possbile solution is to get
rid of the pay per view channel and replace it with the science fiction channel
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Date: 29 Aug 92 14:18:34 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <9g69PB4w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, ekho.bbs@cybernet writes:
[...]
>  One final thing:  Slave's voice was done by the same actor who did 
>Zen's voice, as well as Orac's!  I find it quite amusing when any of the 
>computers argue with eachother... I'm imagining poor Peter Tuddingham 
>(sp?) trying to coordinate with the voices and attempting to keep the 
>laughter from interferring with his lines! :)

He probably did it the same way Mel Blanc did.  (He's the one who voiced
virtually all the characters in many of the old Warner Bros. 'toons).  At
first, he tried doing all the lines in sequence, but he kept goofing up --
either messing up the line, or the character that was supposed to be saying
it.  Finally, he suggested doing it a different way: first, he does all of
one characters lines, then the next, etc.  The lines can then be edited
together in the proper order.  This turned out to work much better.

-- 
You unlock this door with the key of imagination.  Beyond it is another
dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into... the Twilight Zone.
From: rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:30:29 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1c05PB3w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> ekho.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
You mentioned Orbit first, on your own head be it...

Orbit spoiler follows
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>
>
>
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>














>
> Stay Safe! (You know you are safe... with me!) ;}

I just watched Orbit, and I am confused - sick and twisted as Avon is
definately becoming, how could he possibly say that to Vila, and why
didn't Vila kill him since he did say it.  I just can't make sense of it!

Sandy
>
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From: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: Blake's 7 Ending
Reply-To: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 21:15:16 GMT

In article <182nhuINN3qo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jtb5@po.CWRU.Edu (Justin T. Ballard) writes:
>
>Basically I don't understand it. I say the last episode but I 
>just don't understand what happened. Everybody died but Avon and
>he just laughs maniacally in the end. Am I dense, am I just 
>missing the artistic touch. At first I didn't realize that was the
>end and when I went to watch the next episode I almost died to 
>find it was no longer on. Can somebody sort my confusion and 
>frustration.(Dramatized for posting)
>-- 
>					Justin Ballard
>					jtb5@po.cwru.edu

One more thing happens: after the fadeout you hear several shots.
I believe it's general consensus (I know it's my opinion) that
towards the end of the last season, Avon was going insane from 
the stress. Some examples: He deliberately killed the scientist
who helped install the drive on Scorpio AND THEN APPEARED TO 
FORGET SHE EXISTED. He tried to kill Vila (Ok, so that's not too
strange, but he was sure acting funny while searching the shuttle).
He laughed when Sevalan bested him in "Black Gold" (right title?)

Then, of course, he freaked out & shot Blake in the final episode.
Again, I say that shooting Blake would not be out of character if
Avon thought Blake was a danger, but normally Avon would be 
quick, efficient, and passionless about it. Instead, Avon was 
frantic. So Avon was insane and distraught, then everyone was 
killed, and he was in a position where no escape was possible.
Considering how the federation dealt with its enemies, death was
the most attractive option open to him. Even so, Avon has always
been the quinessential survivor, and did not (would not?
could not?) point the gun at himself. Instead he aims at the guards
surrounding him. I hope he got several before he was shot.

RB
From: barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 14:20:54 PDT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

chrstie@ccu.umanitoba.ca (William John M. Christie) writes:

> Speaking of Soolin anyone have any information on this fast-drawing gun-sling
> babe?  Aside from the name Glynis Barber has she done any other BBC stuff or
> appeared in any other media?
> 

You mean like  Dempsey and Makepeace? 


==================================================================
Barry Mishkind
barry@jab.tucson.az.us
From: ekho.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:08:43 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

oneill@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill) writes:

> 
> In article <1992Aug22.142831.58328@cc.usu.edu>, slg7m@cc.usu.edu writes:
> |> I watched Blake's 7 a few times about a year ago.  At that time, there was
> |> Blake and I believe there were even 7 crewmembers.  Since I've started wat
> |> it again, Blake is gone (presumably dead though Avor doesn't really believ
> |> it), 2 more of the original crew members have died, their fabulous ship is
> |> gone, which leaves them with 3 of the 7, ORAC and no Blake.
> 
> To tell you the truth, unless they counted Zen, they at most had 6. The
> "original" crew of the Liberator (after a few episodes) were Blake, Genna,
> Avon, Gan, Villa, and Cally. So, was Zen really considered one of the seven?
> 
> As far as "decimating" the crew, they really didn't have a choice, and the
> writers certainly couldn't forsee the future. The actor (forget) who played
> Gan wanted out shortly after the first season, and Gareth Thomas (Blake) and
> the actress who played Genna (forget again) left after season 2. Gan was
> never replaced, Steven Pacey (Tarrant) filled in for Blake, and Dayna
> replaced Genna. Cally left after season 3, to be replaced by Soolin. Even
> Zen was replaced by Slave (I was saddened at the loss of Zen and his final
> words...).

  A few points :)

  When Blake originally came up with the name "Blakes 7", Avon pointed 
out to him that there were only 6 people on board.  Blake then said that 
he included Zen as a member of his crew! ;)  The name forever more stuck, 
as it was used for propaganda by the Rebellion, etc... They couldn't go 
and send updates to everyone on new names... Servalan would trace the 
messages and find them! ;}

  Thank you, Brian, for spelling Gan's name right, but I'm afraid that 
Genna's name is Jenna, and Villa's name is Vila! (chuckle)  Bonus
points are awarded for getting Dayna and Soolin's names correct! ;)

  One final thing:  Slave's voice was done by the same actor who did 
Zen's voice, as well as Orac's!  I find it quite amusing when any of the 
computers argue with eachother... I'm imagining poor Peter Tuddingham 
(sp?) trying to coordinate with the voices and attempting to keep the 
laughter from interferring with his lines! :)

  Hoping that you enjoy yourselves..... Stay Safe!

        Yours in Time and Space,

            Ekho (Killer Queen, Dynamite with a Laser Beam)
From: lee@quark2.aero.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Red Dwarf in L.A.: what happened?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 08:36 -0800
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: ca
Reply-To: lee@arecibo.aero.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: quark2.aero.org
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Is Channel 28 still showing episodes of Red Dwarf in L.A.?  It wasn't on
during it's scheduled time (Weds. nights at 12:30) yesterday.
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From: asr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Angus "Fluffy" Rae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:56:36 GMT
Organization: CATHY_VoiceMail_Project

sll28@cc.usu.edu writes:
>Alternately, you could also count Orac as a member of the gang.

(Sorry, a little overzealous with the C-k's there...)

Anyway, Orac was indeed counted as part of the Seven during most of the
time after he appeared... If I recall rightly, and I have no programme
guide in easy reach, this is the sequence of crew change...

Blake, Avon, Jenna, Zen 		(only four)
Addition of Villa and Gan		(up to six)
Addition of Cally 			(up to the seven)
Addition of Orac			(up to eight)
Death of Gan				(down to seven again)
Blake and Jenna go missing 		(down to five temporarily)
Tarrant and Dayna arrive 		(back up to seven)
"Death" of Zen				(down to six)
Death of Cally 				(down to five)
Arrival of Soolin and Slave		(back up to seven)

I think I have everything in the right order there. There are obvious
reasons for Gan's death; 1) The character was "limited" too much by the
limiter implant, 2) Orac was just too good a character to lose - he
would become part of the crew without doubt and "Blake's Eight" just
doesn't have the same ring to it, and 3) the actor was reportedly not
happy. For a time Blake's Seven was a bit "character heavy", there were
too many people to follow during one episode. Having two characters
which are essentially immobile and usually don't muck up shots too much
helps a lot and would have kept costs down.

I'm rambling a bit now... hope this helps.

-- 
Angus G Rae, the Cuddly Vampire Teddy Bear [asr@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk]
CATHY VoiceMail, Computer Science Dept., Edinburgh University
"I'm on the run from the Facist Police with a murderer and
 a mass murderer and a man in a bri-nylon shirt."  Rimmer, Red Dwarf V
From: ekho.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:42:11 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

slg7m@cc.usu.edu writes:

> I watched Blake's 7 a few times about a year ago.  At that time, there was a
> Blake and I believe there were even 7 crewmembers.  Since I've started watchi
> it again, Blake is gone (presumably dead though Avor doesn't really believe
> it), 2 more of the original crew members have died, their fabulous ship is
> gone, which leaves them with 3 of the 7, ORAC and no Blake.
> 
> My question is this:  why did they call it Blake's 7 if (1) they got rid of
> Blake (what would Dr. Who be without Dr. Who?) and (2) they were going to
> decimate the number of the cast?  If anyone could give me a *short* synopsis 
> what happened to Blake and the rest of the crew, I would appreciate it.
> 
> Tanya Olsen

Well, since you so kindly asked... :)  SPOILERS (of a sort) follow...
























  Blakes 7 has quite sucessfuly given a bleak and hopeless tone for the 
main characters through the many tradgedies and failures bestowed upon 
them by Fate (which some say Avon believes in, as he smiles in irony at 
its whim so often... ;))  The loss of Blake does nothing to change what 
the show is about; indeed, Blake's influence is felt all throughout the 
series, from such lines as: Vila-"Blake would be proud of you, you know." 
Avon-"Yes, well, he never was very bright." to Servalan setting a trap 
for Avon and crew using Blake as bait.  The last episode itself is named 
"Blake", and although I have given spoiler warning, I will say nothing 
unless asked. ;)  I get the impression that you have not seen many 
episodes, and I hate to ruin your fun... I hope you enjoy watching them, 
and finally... Stay Safe! (You know you are safe... with me!) ;}

            Yours in Time and Space,

               Ekho (Killer Queen, Dynamite with a Laser Beam)
From: ant@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Antony Chilton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Blake's 7 Ending
Date: 3 Sep 92 06:36:16 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

A couple of years after the final series ended, a new novel, Aftermath, was
released. This continued from where the last episode left off. I don't know
if it is still available but at the time I thought it was a very good book.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: SF channel
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 16:33:16 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

electro@access.digex.com (Gary Ehrlich) writes:

> 
>  Out here in backwater Howard County we're doubly deprived.  Our cable
>  system only decided to invest in a low-end 37 channel system.  We
>  miss out on Comedy Central (MST3K) *and* the SF channel.
> 
>  We've even got VH-1 piggybacked on CNBC!
> 
>  Methinks it's time to move! 

We have the same problem here in Ventura County, California.  (not all that
backwater).  We do not get the Comedy Channel, we are not likely to get
the Sci-Fi channel.  Although I and some friends of mine plan to try and
get many letters/phone calls, but I doubt they will listen.  And VH-1 is
piggybacked on Prime Ticket.  CNBC is piggybacked with Playboy.  So it
doesn't sound to me like many cable stations are going to get Sci-Fi.
Does anyone know if USA is offering a package deal, to buy USA/Sci-Fi
channel.  Might be a good idea, or unfortunatly they are going to have
a hard time selling it.


-------------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Beckstead                    ace@kryton.uucp
"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 14:35:53 EDT
From: JILL <34EP2A2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Covington Cross

Salute-While it may be true that CC was not very damned accurate eg. tomatoes
 and potatoes at dinner--Shouldn't we be happy that someone is making the
attempt at portraying history as something human, rather than as a class to be
skipped or slept through? Despite blatent innaccuracies which have been *well*
covered in previous posts CC may still be used as a starting point for middle
 and high school medieval history; it gives a common if not broad base on which
 to build, and could raise some interest in otherwise apathetic students.

Jillian and Genny
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From: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine ( was RAVEN: picked up for next season)
Reply-To: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 04:07:03 GMT


In a previous article, boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...) says:

>In article <1992Aug30.033411.6510@openage.openage.com>, ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host) writes...

>
>} I have heard no news about Man & Machine
>
>No plans for renewal, and it's doubtful that it will get renewed.


Actually , my understanding is that they're being "retooled" with plans to
return as a midseason replacement.

Source is Starlog magazine.

Chuck Gibbs