HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: INDIANS AND SEX
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 09:11:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.224150.22467@news.duc.auburn.edu> chakrsa@eng.auburn.edu writes:
>Just when I was about to propose we start this new group :
>  (-:	alt.fan.pooja.bedi.drool.drool.drool    :-)
>
>Kidding aside Mr. Seetamraju, just what kind of female do YOU consider attractive ??
>A wee bit more Reubenesque perhaps ?? 

Reubenesque ! What is that ?  a little enlightenment.
(anyway, I prefer new film heroines.  Did you see the song in vishkanya.
	that ... oi rabba song ! ooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiii! )

>sanjoy
>
>ps. pliss, a little enlightenment ---what other various PBs have you come across ?
	these other PBs are found on SCI and american TV.



Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ramjanmbhoomi-babrimasjid dispute
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:57:15 GMT
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit

In article <rs.715424722@radon.sys.uea.ac.uk> rs@sys.uea.ac.uk (CHE Guest News Login) writes:
>Within a short span, all these leaders will be exposed to Nation, and younger
								   ^^^^^^^^^^
>generation will have an excellent opportunity to take the charge of nation in 
^^^^^^^^^^^^					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



Hmmmmm!  (Shades of RSS?)....

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)


>a much better way.
>And as per Darwin's theory, only "survival of fittest " will happen.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: Re: Men like Gandhi and J.P.
Summary: The ism's'
Keywords: The 'ism's'
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 02:15:10 GMT

 
 
>Pre-WWII, talk of eugenics, racial superiority etc. seems to have 
>been something of a fashion. 

I am not convinced that the talk about eugenics is a 'dead' subject. The
U.S. does not comprise the 'whole world'.
From what I understand from the news - in places like E. Germany, there is
a strong movement for the revival of a pure race, so is the fighting in 
Yoguslavia.
The Indians and Chinese, who make up 2/3rds of the worlds population
are not very inclined towards tolerance of other races and 'mixed marriges'.
The significant aspect is that they do not hold too much power. In the next
50-100 years that might change.

>With WWII and Hitler, the shocked 
>realization came about where these things lead to. Nothing to do 
>with kind Anglo-Saxons or anything, that was never implied. 

What shocked 'them' was the losses. From 'ruling the world' to being
beaten and bruised must have been one hell of a shock.

>The point exactly -- WWII weakened the British (and all of Europe) 
>so much that controlling their colonies was an infeasible proposition. 
>Britain at pre WWII strength might have held on for decades. 

My argument was based on my belief that the British would have left India
whether they were involved in a 'world war' or not. It would be too
difficult to hold on to a country of 350m million where 
the masses were getting more knowledgeable about their ignorance which
lead to their bondage. We could also speculate here that if M. Ghandhi did
not lead our freedom movement we might have had our independence earlier -
through a bloody bitter struggle. This again could have lead to many
different 'Inida's'- not just India, Pak., and B.Desh.

 
>Of course, there is no way of proving any of this. 
 
Of course, there is no way of proving any of this:)

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Subject: Re: Interested in a sexy desi girl
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:29:04 GMT


>>Can someone tell us as to which part of India do people
>>have this last name? I am trying to get an idea of this
>>species/character(apology to others with this last name).
>>---Sree
>  Looking at your name, it looks like both of you come
>  from the same part of India..If you want to know more about
>  him you can send me an email..I knew him personally
>  while doing BE in India.....
>  Venkatesh

hey how come you know me? i never had a friend called venkatesh. looks
like i don't know how famous i'm getting.


Suresh  :)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: Re: Confused about Indian Babes ...
Summary: confused
Keywords: confused
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 22:46:10 GMT

>Confused about Indian Babes ... 
>guptaa@pell4l22 (Anirudh Gupta) 
 
>||| The only difference between Indians and womyn from the West
>(bash me 
>||| for generalizing) is that
 
>WOMYN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? 

Seem to have a problem with my spelling? I am sorry buddy, I can
not help U with that.

>jeez!! 
>and willya stop generalizing about 'indian males' mindlessly you
>fuckhead!!!!!! 

Language Timothy!!
I did ask people to bash me for generalizing, acknowledging my
shortcoming. You are a prime sucker. You should be put on the net
as a display for 'the epitome in ignorance'.

>whaddya mean 'like having sex at a 'more mature' age'????? You
>mean you dont get laid..period   
>or are probably too chicken to. HA! 
 
>Val.

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: why satti is practiced
From: <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 23:24:29 EDT
 7RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <1992Sep1.195406.21766@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

-From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
-Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
-> -
-Let me clarify what I said. Sati is a hindu practice where a WOMAN
-(un)willingly immolates herself. My earlier comments are devoid of
-sexism. I have used "some unfortunate woman" because only women
-are commit Sati.
-
Well, I deny that unwilling immolation IS a Hindu practice.  It may be DONE
be Hindus, but some Hindus also pick their noses.  That does not make that
a HINDU practice.  (Incidentally, I am not a Hindu)

-If you have to choose between saving Mother Theresa and saving
-Hitler and Ivan the terrible, would you choose the latter ?
-
I would not.  One makes assertions which are true under NORMAL circumstances.
If all the caveats were listed, it would not fit in this column.
-
-Why are you talking about French soldiers and Gulf war ? I was
-under the impression that the topic was Sati.
-
Because no one ever says, `the lives I do not care about are not important'.
It is just that, after the lives that one does care about are taken care of
at some idealistic level, then the lives that one does NOT care about have
no room to be taken care of even at some ordinary level.

-> the US media.  This is, let us face it, racism.  I am sure that
-> the life of a woman has the same value as that of a man.  But I do
-> NOT accept that it has MORE value. So in my opinion, the thousands of
-
-How much is a human life worth ? What is the sense in equating
-the value of human lives ?
-
The value of hunman life is not infinite.  We all have to die and in the
meanwhile we must take care of ourselves and as MANY people as we can.
-
-I have never said anything about French soldiers, Iraqis, and
-men who are forcibly sterilised. I dont see what they have to
-do with Sati. Can we talk about Sati ?
-
We can.  But I have already said that the practice is unacceptable.
My question is this:  you have said that even if there is one case of
Sati in a millenium then that is unaccptable to you.  Does that imply
that you are going to wait 999 years to see if a case of Sati takes place
and in the meanwhile ignore all other injustices including the children
starving in Somalia?  We only have a finite amount of energy and we have
to spend it on problems that are urgent, not on problems that take
plae once every millenium!  I will take a guess that the fact that
Sati has ever taken place embarrasses you because you are an Indian and
you feel vulnerable to Western criticism.  But you can condemn Sati without
going into hysterics as self-righteous Westerners do!!  It is not common,
I have never witnessed it or even heard about it first hand.

> -RKP

Rohit Parikh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: I will close you by my ices --[ The Tiger Cascade ]
Organization: The Net-Anarchists of SCI, Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:42:51 GMT

In article <16850E475.R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.225243.194559@ua1ix.ua.edu>
>ngopalas@ho19.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:
> 
>>
>>In article <1992Aug26.222717.7747@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mramesh@nyx.cs.du.edu (M Ramesh) writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I will close you by my ices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will lose you by my dices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I will kill you with my spices.
>>>>>>>>>>    Hi willki, you with mices ?
>>>>>>>>>>    No Vepal, that would be crises.
>>>>>>>>      No pal, begone, that suffices.
>>>>>>>       I car US life's main spices?
>>>>>>        I caress her vain crevices.
>>>>>         I could do without artificial devices.
>>>>          I kudo you with art on what premises ?
>>>           Could you be SCating on thin Ices?
>>            Methinks Icarus will pay terrible prices.
>             Kill, and send me chemm slices.
              Drink deep then, of my intestinal interstices.
     
1] :-), I liked the chemm slices line.
   Stay Cool.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: queries directed to jains ... (from a jain) : answers follow
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:50:45 GMT

In article <1542@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> av2@ukc.ac.uk (A.Varshneya) writes:
>> But if you want to eat the leg of a Chicken, it won't regenerate another
>> leg in due course of time!!
>
>I do not agree with the previous point at all.
>It does not hold for vegetables like potato, carrot, raddish, cabbage,
>cauliflower, ......, so would vegetarians not eat them ?
>
>Frankly, I do not know what to say about the point in discussion.  Has
>it to do with pain ?  Then is it ok to kill a person after giving him
>anesthesia ?  With complexity of life form ? Then where do we draw the
>line ? and so on ...
>Atul


In western thought one must make a decision as to whether it is
ok to kill `LIFE', and also to decide, which/what has life and what
hasnt.

buddha (as an example) was against meat eating as it symbolized
luxury and indulgence of the body and mind.   Not against killing of
life in general.  Hinduism also disallows it too, but I am not
well-versed in this aspect of hinduism, nor do I know the real
originators of this abstinence phase of hinduism.

Coming back to western thought -- scientists are (yes! currently)
looking at `renewable' (biologically and otherwise) food production
techniques, very unlike all current food production technques.
I am sure this will be acceptable to the morally-`concious' people here.
But in hinduism, lord resides in animate and inamite objects.  So what
difference will that make...?  wanna continue on this?


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: N.Chatterjee@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for Tapan Kumar Maiti.
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:56:39 GMT

Hi!

I am sending this mail on behalf of my wife Sutapa Bandyopadhyay.

She is looking for Mr. Tapan Kumar Maiti, ex-student of JNU, currently
doing Ph.D in Bio-Technology in some University of New York. Any information
about him is welcome.

Please Contact me directly thru email.

Thanks,

Niladri
---------
From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Buddhism a part of Hinduism ?
Date: 30 Aug 92 10:57:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oecFc0K00awDA6Jmcg
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

NO.

Only for BJP fanatics. Of course the Hinduism practiced by Tamils from 
Eelam and Hindus from south India does have many strands of Budhism
woven into the fabric that is Hindiusm.

Suresh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Re: Stop posting :Re: Telugu Culture Net Digest 41
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:50:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.182811.29569@ccad.uiowa.edu> bhat@ccad.uiowa.edu (Dinkar N. Bhat) writes:
>In article <923@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>>bhat@ccad.uiowa.edu (Dinkar N. Bhat) writes:
>>: In article <913@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>>You might have subscribed to SCITelugu, but there could be many
>>people who would like to read the digests on SCI.
[...]
>>---sree
>Dont worry, I wont reply to your posts again. Peace :-).
>Dinkar.

I guess this is the fourth (at least) in this series. There
would have been only one if there had been no SCITelugu. 

A couple of points:

I think that the objections to the Telugu digest postings
being crossposted on SCI are quite unwarranted, at least for
some time (since USENET transmissions don't take place 
instantaneously - maybe Sridhar can say something on this
subject, but obviously he knows something I don't :-) - as
the objectors in this thread have been assuming.) How long
that should be, I don't know.

Someone else objected to the digests because they are paying
for something they don't need. Isn't it true that cross-posts
mean that there is one copy of an article which appears in
two different newsgroups and there is minimal overhead 
involved?

An interesting point about at least one poster objecting to
these cross-posts is that poster's continued objection to
the existence of these splinter groups. I find it quite 
strange that someone who objects to the existence of these
groups (ostensibly on grounds of unity?) would object
cross-posting from these groups! Maybe, they were not
objections, just peeves!

Sthan.
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.cascade
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: Tall Tales from Hell -- Icarus. [Possible cascade]
Organization: The Net-Anarchists of SCI, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:00:45 GMT

In article <gunnarh.44@dhhalden.no> gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.025548.15228@menudo.uh.edu> Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug31.200325.8776@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU  
>>2] Follow-up is set to alt.cascade.
>
>But this *is* alt.cascade
Smut disease in salt brocade!

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From: vibha@eng.umd.edu (Vibha Prakash Goel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Question about extension of B-2 (visitor) visa
Keywords: B-2 visa, extension
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:15:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

Hi netters:

        I am posting it for my friend, as he does not have access to
        the email. He came to US a couple of weeks ago. He has a
multiple
        visa to US for 5 years. He has been to US before, as a
visitor.
        This time, when he arrived, he did not have much money or
credit
        card, as his relatives were supposed to pick him up. He had a
return
        ticket for a month from the date he arrived, so after a lot of

        questioning he was given a permission to stay, without
extension or
        change of status, as visitor for 35 days.

        He wants to extend his stay, and would like to visit some of
his
        friends. What can be a possible scenario, that can make him stay?
        What are possible reasons he can state for staying back. He is
        thinking of showing enough proof for his expenses, but has to
        state a good valid reason to stay back for couple of more months.

        Thanks,

Vibha
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: Re: Female Ejaculation
Summary: ///////???????///////
Keywords: ///////???????//////
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:46:08 GMT

It was only mere speculation
The having of a female ejaculation
Derived only through feminine masturbation?

Reference to Bapu Ghandhi
Makes ignorant comments trendy

The new knowledge imparted in its content
Leaves many a MAN terribly discontent
What was the poster's real intent?


John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud

Do not flame me without reading the original post. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ngopalas@ho19.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: "Swastik(a)"
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:32:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.224244.19033@engr.latech.edu> shalan@engr.latech.edu writes:
>
>	For sreehari nimmala.
>	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>	"suhasti" in samaskritam means "well being" - also a symbol of god. 
>
>	_________
>		|	|
>		|	|
>		|	|
>	________|_______|	: this is the symbol.
>	|	|
>	|	|
>	|	|
>	|	|________
>
>
>	hitler chose the same symbol but reversed it. Whether it is a coincidence or 
>deliberate is not clear. but he liked the symbol. I'll get the reference later.
>	 Also the colors were strategically chosen. crimson background (red is supposed to weaken you, and blue strengthen you) . white disc in the center and black swastika on the disc. The swastika was tilted by 45 degrees. the flag was so designed  that it wo
>uld instill awe (for germans) and terror. he was a megalomaniac. the flag, the goosesteps, the nazi helmet, jackboots......show it.
>		_________
>	|	|
>	|	|			: rotate  by 45 degrees for swastika.
>	|	|
>	|_______|________
>		|	|
>		|	|
>		|	|
>	________|	|
>
>I beleive he knew what the suhasti symbol meant. so he reversed it to warn non-germans that it "would not be their well being" and inadvertently the symbol of evil.
>
>
>shiv



The way it was told to me, There are two kinds of swastika, one in which the 
arms face the clockwise direction and the other, the anticlockwise direction,
they both represent the cycle odf construction and destruction much like the
Vedic beliefs. It has been noticed in a wide variety of cultures usually 
associated with a good luck charm, but in Hinduism it assumes special significance.

And incidentally, it is not "suhasti" but split as "su"=well and "asti"=exist.
"aastik" means worldly, related to material world, so it could be a blessing
for a good existence or a good fortune wish depending on which way you want to
split it.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:29702 soc.women:15916
From: tolia@separator.ecn.purdue.edu (Anish Arun Tolia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.women
Subject: Re: looking for ways to meet opp sex
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:56:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug27.181942.13199@lowton.rn.com> mark@lowton.rn.com (Mark Powell) writes:
>
>
>Why do you call me American? Incidentally I live in the UK, read the .sig,
>but why do you diffentiate between yourself and Americans? Do you not
>live in the US? Or do you just associate yourself with the things you
>find attractive about the US? I was in no way defending domestic violence
>or aquaintance rape. Where did you get that inferance? I simply pointed
>out that imbeciles like the original poster "are the worst".
>

Sorry for the insult |-), The point I was tring to make is that violence of the type
that is so common in this so called advanced country is much more reprehensible
than a silly post looking for women. As I understood the original post, all the poor
fellow wanted was a way to meet Indian women. I understand that the concept of an
arranged marriage is alien to you and even I dont believe it is the preferred route,
but it does seem to work for some poeple. Your post seemed to label all Indians as
people who treat women like property, and that is what I took objection to. As for
identifying with things I find attractive about the US, since I have not really
grown up here I am not truly American and I believe I can be a better person by
assimilating the good in every culture, so yes, I do associate myself with the things
I find attractive and avoid the rest.

><synopsis of original post>
>"Hello, I feel like a wife. Could someone get me one. Thanks."
>
>I'm not on any moral high horse. I see this post and have seen Indian 
>men like this before. I have actually been told "White girls are for
>fucking, Indian girls are for marrying", by various Indian men on
>several occasions before. This sums up the attitude of this type of
>man. No way are all Indian men like this and in any race such
>dogma will be found. That doesn't mean it can't be critised when
>"spotted."

This attitude is truly sad. It shows hypocracy and double standards but these 
attitudes are by no means limited to Indian men. As long as you do not generalize
and extrapolate, I will join you in condemning these individuals.
>
>> You mean they have these statistics about India? How else can you
>> compare the two?
>
>Such minor details are of no consequence to some.
>
>> >Anish
>> 
>> Njan
>-- 
>Mark Powell
>
>mark@lowton.rn.com   uunet!ibmpcug!jshark!lowton!mark   Nr. Manchester, UK.
>Home: +44 942 714317  v32/v32bis news and email feeds available. Just ask.

Anish
From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Yestedrday Sri Lanka, Today Burma....
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:45:35 GMT

From misc.news.southasia...

Subject: Burmese dissidents set up office in Indian capital

	NEW DELHI, India  -- Burmeses dissidents, forming a Govt.-in-exile, 
set up an office in New Delhi after the Indian government relented in its
opposition to the move, officials said Monday.

	India had prevented the Burmese dissidents from setting up an office
in New Delhi because it did not want to be seen as doing what it had
always asked other South Asian nations not to do -- interfere in the
internal affairs of a neighbor.

	It tried to block Burma's readmission to the Non-Aligned Movement on
the grounds that the decision to rejoin had been made by a regime whose
legitimacy was under challenge.

	India's change of heart helped Burma gain readmission Sunday to the
Non-Aligned Movement, which it left in 1979.

	The Burmese government-in-exile was set up with its headquarters
along the Burma-Thailand border by the National League for Democracy
(NLD) after the country's dictatorship refused to honor the results of
the May 1990 national election.
========

	Sri Lankan militants were given shelter, food, arms and training.
Now.....??   Some people never learn!


Vicky:
UMass, Aug 31