HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon)
Subject: Re: Daylight Saving Time patch wanted
Keywords: DST patch
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:11:09 GMT

In article <BswpL1.44z@hico2.westmark.com> query@hico2.westmark.com writes:
>About a year and a half ago, some netters developed
>a patch (and a patch program) which would fix the
>incorrect daylight savings time correction on the 
>3B1.  The patch program, as I remember, would
>identify the pattern, and change it in any existing
>binarys.  
>
>I couldn't find anything about this listed in the archives,
>or posted.
>
>Does anybody out there have a copy they could send out to me?
>(and can we get this into the archives somewhere?)
>
>Thanx in advance,
>
>
>
>Kris A. Kugel	908-842-2707
>hico2!query	query@hico2.westmark.com

Look at ftp.cis.ohio-state.edu:pub/att7300/misc/dstconvert.sh.Z

This is a shar script which includes: Makefile README dstconvert.c
The algorithm, applied to individual executables and relocatables,
involves a search for the date on which the conversion from and to
Daylight Savings time occurs.  README tells you which files it should
be applied to; the code itself tells whether it succeeded.  Good luck.

--
	Chuck Bacon - crtb@helix.nih.gov ( alas, not my 3b1 )-:
		ABHOR SECRECY	-   DEFEND PRIVACY
From: tkacik@hobbes.hobbes.cs.gmr.com (Tom Tkacik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Two comb cards in a 3B1
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:10:58 GMT
Reply-To: tkacik@hobbes.hobbes.cs.gmr.com
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article 608@cpsolv.CPS.COM, rhg@cpsolv.CPS.COM (Richard H. Gumpertz writes:
> In article <603@cpsolv.CPS.COM> rhg@cpsolv.CPS.COM (Richard H. Gumpertz) writes:
> }I have been looking at how to install two combo cards (with 2MB of RAM total)
> }in the same 3B1.  My goal is 4 expansion serial ports and 2MB of expansion
> }memory using just two slots.
> }
> }The following is an idea I am thinking about.  DO NOT TRY THESE MODIFICATIONS
> }EXCEPT AT YOUR OWN RISK!  THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNVERIFIED AND UNTESTED!  At
> }this point I just want feed back from other hardware gurus as to whether I
> }got it right and whether there might be an easier way.  Note that I have been
> }looking at loaded boards and some of the traces are a bit hard to follow:
> }mistakes are quite possible!
> 
> [...details deleted...]
>
> I have seen no response at all to the above posting that I made.  Did it get
> out?  Did anybody read it?  Does anybody think it would/wouldn't work?  Has
> the technical expertise ALREADY dried up?

I have not seen this message before.  Maybe it did not get out.

With some modification to one of the two boards, you should be able to get 
4 serial ports and 2Meg (not 4Meg) expansion memory.  You probably could put
1Meg in both boards, or fill one with 1.5Meg and the other with 0.5Meg.

I have not seen a Combo board, so I do not know how different it is from the
memory boards, but there was a description of how to combine a combo board and
a 0.5Meg memory board.  If you filled one combo board, and treated the other like
that memory board, I am sure that whatever modifications were required there will
be similar to the modifications you will need now.

I did not get a chance to see your details, so I cannot comment on those.
Good luck.  We are all awaiting your note of success. :-)


Tom Tkacik
GM Research Labs
tkacik@hobbes.cs.gmr.com
tkacik@kyzyl.mi.org

Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,misc.forsale.computers
From: andy@cs.caltech.edu (Andy Fyfe)
Subject: ghostscript revisited
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:31:20 GMT

I've made a simple driver for ghostscript for the 3b1 console.  It
works on everything I've tried so far (simple "text" derived from
groff -Tps and tex/dvips) as well as the sample ps files included
with ghostscript.  (snowflak.ps takes about 100 minutes of CPU time
to interpret!)

The binary can be found on ftp.cs.caltech.edu:pub/3b1/gs-bin.tar.Z.
Included in the tar file is the source code for the 3b1 console
driver, should anyone be interested.  Gs sources and fonts are in
the subdirectory gnu-sources.

Andy Fyfe					andy@cs.caltech.edu
From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: 3b1 internal modem-flow control (really Supra v.32bis)
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:52:02 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <Tkayr*4p2@crpi.UUCP> joel@crpi.UUCP (Joel C. Justen) writes:

>I currently am 
>hooking up a Supra 14.4 v.32bis FAXmodem up to my unix PC 

I just got one of these myself and plan to hook it up in the next day or
two.  I'd really appreciate hearing anyone else's experiences with this
modem and the 3B1.

.............................................................................
....Boyd Ostroff / Technical Director / SUNY Oswego Department of Theatre....
...............Voice: (315) 341-2987 /  Fax: (315) 341-3394..................
..............ostroff@oswego.oswego.edu / ostroff@cboard.UUCP................
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From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich)
Subject: Re: Unixpc source code access
Organization: Vision Graphics
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 07:35:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.223049.761@cbnewsc.cb.att.com|  cmv@looney.att.com (Craig M. Votava) writes:
|
[ ... ]
|
| In any case, I'm still tied up with USL lawyers on the status of the source
| code. As soon as I get something concrete from them, I will post the result.
[ ... ]

	Hi Craig! :)

	Could you please elaborate on what the 'problem' is?  I realize part of
	this to be very _typical_ of AT&T, but surely they cannot see this older
	technology to be a risk factor in the market.  And given the fact that
	it's not like they're releasing it into the public domain, but through
	signed non-disclosure contracts.  They're free to keep an eye on us,
	and nothing will prevent them from sueing someone if they screw up... ;)

	You indicated in an earlier post that no one really had the authority to
	say anything, which was bugging the lawyer you're in contact with.  If 
	no one has the authority to say anything, then how on earth will this
	ever be resolved?  Fire the lawyer?

	Just very curious... thanks for your efforts Craig, they are appreciated.

| Hang in there...
[ ... ]

	I've fallen! ;)
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From: grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST))
Subject: conntecting UNIX pcs
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:42:26 GMT

	I am thinking of hooking up my UNIX PC to my sun workstation
Reason-the UNIX PC is in my office and the workstation is in the lab.
I need to be able to do system admin to the workstations. (note
the plural.) The college is not going to spend any money on this 
venture, so if the software costs I would have to spread for it.
Anyway, I have MacLayers for my Mac and would like something like
that to connect to the sun with. I need some way to have at least 3 
windows (or sessions) running on the sun and beable to see them all
on the UNIX PC, preferably in a windowing style program (like MacLayers).
	the labe is Ethernet, but I don't have TCP/ip for the UNIX
PC, nor a ethernet card or spare transiever.
	Any ideas? Thanks!!!

Later,
	Mike
	ZMEG@AACC.bitnet
	or grabenst@umbc3.umbc.edu
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From: grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST))
Subject: to aubrey soper
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:46:27 GMT

	Got you mail. sounds interesting..., but I have a
problem mailing to uunet. My internet connection jsut doesn`t like
it. Do you have an '@' address?

	Anyone else know how to reach a host on uunet when the 
system your on can't reach a uunet host when you do a 'R'????

	Thanks. Aubrey- I tried one way the lab tech said, but
it has not worked in the past.

Later,
	Mike
	ZMEG@AACC.bitnet
	or grabenst@umbc3.umbc.edu
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From: tpark@mothra.cns.syr.edu (NOBODY ...)
Subject: 3b1 for sale
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 12:45:04 EDT

I have a complete AT&T unixpc/3b1 system for sale. This is what I have:

AT&T unixpc/3b1 (whatever you call it)
    - Internal modem.
    - 12" Monochrome Green Screen
    - 1 MB RAM
    - 40 MB Hard Drive
    - 1 Serial, 1 Parallel Port
    - Standard Keyboard and Mouse
    - Unix 3.51 system software
    - Complete manuals(system software, owner's manual,
      communications management, getting started)
    - Misc. software installed on Hard drive(includes communication SW)
    - Works Fine

All of the hardwares are in excellent working condition.

Ask $300 + shipping.


Please contact to : tpark@mothra.cns.syr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: rtwall@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD TODD WALL)
Subject: Motherboard Wanted
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:42:02 GMT

	Wanted:	A working 3b1 motherboard. 512K or 1 meg.

	Tell me your price.


o o ______           _     _____  _  _ o o "I'm in the car park."
' '   /       /   / ' )   /      // // ' ' "What are you doing in the car park?
     / ______/ __/   / / / __.  // //      "Parking cars, what else does one do
   _/ (_) (_/_(_/_  (_(_/ (_/|_</_</        in a car park....................."
            -> todd@beretta.bacchus.org || rtwall@eos.ncsu.edu <-
From: cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Ping for TCP/IP
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:09:11 GMT

Does anyone have the source for a ping command for the 3b1
and Wollogong?  I'm trying to connect it to a flakey IBM PC
ethernet, and not having much luck.  If someone could email
me the source, or a non-FTP site where it could be found,
I'd be grateful.

Thanks - Will
cwr@pnet01.cts.com
From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Shared Libraries and mythical new releases
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:25:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <Bt5D5u.KpG@hico2.westmark.com> kak@hico2.westmark.com (Kris A. Kugel) writes:
>jlowrey@skat.usc.edu (John 'Fritz' Lowrey) writes:
>: . . .
>: 	What are some other alterations that 3b1 users would like to see in
>: a 3b1-kernel v4.0?  Lay it on, let's see what comes out.  
>: . . .
>
>Assuming that this ever comes off,
>We need to decide if we're maintaining
>compatibility with the current shared library.
>
>If we don't, we'll have to recompile everything.

	[ ... ]

>If we do maintain compatability, well, we'll be limited in what we can do.

	[ ... ]

>require adding extra code, and the routine may no longer fit into its
>allocated slot.

	Or require such kluges as branching from the standard location to
space at the end, where there *is* adequate room.  This would add an
aditional performance penalty to the code.

	[ ... ]

>Off hand, despite its painful implications, I'd lean towards NOT
>maintaining shared library compatability, at least for a couple

	I tend agree, as long as the source code is available to everything
that would break.  Things like the ethernet don't use the shared library,
which is probably why it works as well as it does across the releases.

	It is a pity that there isn't support for multiple versions of
shared libs, with the default being to accept the most recent, unless a
request for a specific one is made, the way SunOs 4.1.1 does, but that
requires a much more sophisticated program to load code into memory and fix
up address references.  I don't know whether that code is part of the
kernel, or whether it is user-mode code.  I suspect that it would be easier
to do in the kernel, to make sure that access to the text part of memory was
available.

	Good Luck All
		DoN.

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From: cmv@looney.att.com (Craig M. Votava)
Subject: Re: Potential kernel mods...
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:44:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.180032.26153@news2.cis.umn.edu>, scott@pascal.geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) writes:
|> 
|>   Well, last night I compared my hard drive UNIX3.51 with my floppy
|> boot "unix" and they are absolutely identical.  This implies that
|> the boot has some mechanism whereby it can pass the boot device
|> along to the kernel for it to patch into "{root,pipe,swap}dev".
|> This is not an uncommon practice and is quite a reasonable
|> thing to expect from the super hackers at Convergent who
|> built this version of UNIX.
|> --

Actually, I did some work with this stuff about 2.5 years ago (wow!) and here's
what I remember:

As you all know, the EPROM boot code reads the loader off of the hard disk,
from a fixed place. The verbose loader can ask you if you want to boot off of
the floppy or hard disk. Even though it makes sense that this information
should be used by the unix program that the loader starts up (it is actually
stored in memory for unix, but unix simply ignores it) that assumption is
incorrect.

Scotts comment is correct, the floppy and hard versions of unix are the
same. When unix wakes up, the first thing it does is to look at the file
name of the device it was read off of. If it's the floppy, then the kernel
prints out the "Put in the floppy filesystem disk" message (and so on)
otherwize it assumes a hard disk, and boots normally.

I actually did modify things so that the loader would ask you what drive
to boot unix off of (floppy HD1 or HD2) and then unix would use the info
from the loader to boot the machine. I got this to work, but never did
anything with it.

Cheers...

-Craig


	()_()	Craig Votava
	 (_)	AT&T Bell Labs
		cmv@looney.att.com
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: FOR SALE: UNIX PC BOOKS (ORIGINALS)
Followup-To: comp.sys.3b1
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:33:07 GMT

I have the following two books from the AT$T Software Library to sell;
they are both the standard red IBM-size 3-ring binders in the grey AT$T
clipcase.  Both are NEW; I had to remove the shrinkwrap from the pages
to verify versions.
                    _____
1)  AT&T UNIX(TM) PC     (
    UNIX System V        )----On the spine of the binder
    Programmer's Guide __(

    AT$T Doc. Nr. 999-801-3131S (C)1985 --- from cover

    This document makes no apparent reference to any particular version
    of the UNIX O.S.

    Over 1-1/2" of pages (Dividers are still shrink-wrapped)
                          ========-\
                                    \__> INTRODUCTION
                                         C-LANGUAGE
                                         C-LIBRARIES
                                         OBJECT & MATH LIBRARIES
                                         COMPILER & C LANGUAGE  
                                         (plus 18 more chapters)

                    _____
2)  AT&T UNIX(TM) PC     (
    UNIX System V        )----On the spine of the binder
    User's Manual _______(

    AT$T Doc. Nr. 999-801-3121S (C)1985 --- from cover

    "This edition of this manual covers the 3.0 release..."

    Almost 1-3/4" of pages (Dividers are still shrink-wrapped)
 
If your interested, drop me a note.  I'd like to sell them both as
a set (asking $30.00 U.S. -- I pay shipping).  TERMS:  Tell me you're
interested, I'll accept, I get your check/M.O. within the next five
days, I mail them to you the day I deposit your payment.

Anyone interested??

Ed Leihy, DoD#0521
5000 Hadley Road
S. Plainfield, NJ  07080
(908) 668-6319

P.S.  Any interest in a USED Voice-Power(TM?) board I took out of my
      3B1 when it died??  No docs, no guarantee, just is.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: renkel@rtsg.mot.com (Will Renkel)
Subject: Re. Daylight Saving Time patch wanted
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:50:35 GMT


Its still at archive.cis.ohio-state.edu
in /pub/att7300/misc - dstconvert.sh.Z
I got it just last week and applied it - so far no problems.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich)
Subject: Re: Potential kernel mods...
Organization: Vision Graphics
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:14:15 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug18.170421.8951@squid.tram.com|  jeffrey@squid.tram.com (Jeffrey L Bromberger) writes:
| In article <1992Aug18.021335.391@ceilidh.beartrack.com> dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:
| 
| Please, don't waste your time doing this.  The two unix files are
| *not* the same.  Well, they're kind of close.
| 
| The **BIG** difference is the values of the symbols rootdev, pipedev,
| (and swapdev?).  Right now, they are set for the hard disk.  On the
| floppy version, they have been changed so that it uses only the
| floppy.
| 
| The easy way to fix this is with adb.  However, it was so long ago
| that I did this that I cannot for the life of me remember how to do
| the change.
[ ... ]

	Or, you could take the simple route and download the pertinent
	files from osu-cis:

		kern.cpio.Z   and   conf.cpio.Z

	These are kernel objects released from AT&T, and it allows you to
	configure the kernel, which also has a #define for creating
	a floppy UNIX.


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From: grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST))
Subject: Hard drives
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:33:01 GMT

	Anyone selling a 3b1 that went down, but still has a
good hard drive? (note 3b1, pc7300, unix pc) Or someone willing
to part out the HD? Noticed a flourish of machines for sale, but
I have a good working one.

Thanks.

Later,
	Mike
	ZMEG@AACC.bitnet
	or grabenst@umbc3.umbc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich)
Subject: Re: Unixpc source code access
Organization: Vision Graphics
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:28:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.005849.5758@ceilidh.beartrack.com|  dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:
|
[ ... bla bla bla ... ]
| 
| 	Cool it
[ ... ]

	Why thank you, 'Craig'.

	Cool it, DoN.
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From: jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch)
Subject: Jove or MicroGnu emacs editors.
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 03:05:12 GMT

Where can one get Jove or MicroGnu emacs for the 3b1?  Since I don't
have the development set yet, I would prefer a binary of it..  Anybody
know where I might be able to get it?  I could not find it on the OSU
archives list??/  Any clues.

John


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From: cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose)
Subject: Re: Ping for TCP/IP
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:58:29 PDT

Aaargh!  Excuse me while I scream and twitch a lot.  Anyway, Thad's
message came in time to stop me typing in twelve pages of ping client
code from Steven's network book.  Maybe later...

I'm trying to debug a system I put together on the cheap, using PC/IP;
as I know little about ethernet, this is something of an intellectual
challenge.  Once I've got it going, and know it works under MSDOS,
then I can start porting it to Minix...

Thanks for the prompt reply.  BTW, someone was asking about repairing
a combo board with a duff RS-232 driver.  I bought a board knowing a
port was dead, and hoping that it was the driver.  They are standard
1488/89s, and pretty accessible.  It took 15 minutes or so to trace
the circuit, and another 15 to remove the chip and solder in a socket.

Good luck - Will
From: scott@pascal.geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Potential kernel mods...
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:00:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota

In article <1992Aug18.170421.8951@squid.tram.com> jeffrey@squid.tram.com (Jeffrey L Bromberger) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.021335.391@ceilidh.beartrack.com> dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug17.162950.883@uts.cc.wayne.edu> rwilson@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Ron Wilson) writes:
>>
>>>Another peice of evidence: I once compared the /unix on a bootable floppy to
>>>the /unix on the HD: they are the same.  When booting from the floppy, you
>>
>>	Ah!  This makes it easier for someone without the distribution
>>diskettes to build their own floppy boot disk and floppy filesystem.
>>Excelent bit of information.  I'll have to try making a boot floppy this way
>
>Please, don't waste your time doing this.  The two unix files are
>*not* the same.  Well, they're kind of close.

  Well, last night I compared my hard drive UNIX3.51 with my floppy
boot "unix" and they are absolutely identical.  This implies that
the boot has some mechanism whereby it can pass the boot device
along to the kernel for it to patch into "{root,pipe,swap}dev".
This is not an uncommon practice and is quite a reasonable
thing to expect from the super hackers at Convergent who
built this version of UNIX.
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re:  screen is shrinking.
Organization: CSU
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:34:02 GMT

     I changed several of the problem caps with minimal trouble:
I removed the two screws at the back of the monitor to remove the
bucket cover, removed the rear frame brace (holds the speaker)
and removed the bottom shield from the PC board.  I was able to
unsolder the old cap and put in the replacement working from the
back.  No need to disassemble the swivel base - I did that *ONCE*
and never want to do it again!
 
     I second the need for a powerful soldering iron!
 
     I have a source in Cleveland for the replacement cap for
two or three bucks.  If you have a need for 'em, let me know and
we can work out an arrangement.
 
     Good Luck!
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R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu  |    -She's never been a friend of mine!
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From: nmw1638@ultb.isc.rit.edu (N.M. Williams )
Subject: 3B1 BOUGHT: need no more offers.
Originator: nmw1638@ultb
Reply-To: nmw1638@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:46:46 GMT


Thanks to everyone who sent me offers. I already bought a new 3b1.

Nick (nmw1638@{cs.rit.edu ultb.isc.rit.edu}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: marc@lpi.liant.com 
Subject: Educational Software
Reply-To: marc@lpi.liant.com	
Organization: Liant Software Corporation, Framingham MA	
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:16:02 GMT

I just got a 3B1 and am looking for software
that would be appllicable for kids in the
5-10 yr range.  Any kind of educational software
or even just games that are easy would be nice.




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