HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ohmann@sab57.larc.nasa.gov (Daring Dale Douglas)
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Keywords: ND Loses
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:51:11 GMT

|> JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
|> 
|> >My brazen prediction:  Notre Dame 28
|> >                       Michigan   20
|> 

Another one:

|> 
|> ND     18
|> Mich.  17
|> 
|>      - Pat
|>

Just for kicks, ...

	Michigan   24
	Notre Dame 21

Notre Dame is overranked! (As usual).

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From: maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:53:11 -0700

In article <1992Sep9.192713.6473@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka) writes:
> 
> The Bruins 1992 Football schedule
> 
> S.12	Cal State-Fullerton
> S.19	@ Brigham Young
> S.26	San Diego State

[rest of schedule deleted]
        
> As an alum, this does not look tough
> Stopping the Aztec's Faulkner and Bears White appear to be the
> hardest things this season    
> 

Look again..
It looks to me that you and hopefully UCLA are overlooking the
road game just prior to playing SDSU.

Since 1978, only one team has beaten BYU at their place by more than
four points (1987 vs Pitt. 17-27)

If BYU can somehow get passed SDSU this week, they will have an 18 game
home winning streak going into the UCLA game.

Yes, perhaps the scariest game might be Cal, or SDSU at home, but loose
just a little sleep over the BYU game...please.

arthur
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From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
Subject: FSU at North Texas State
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:29:25 GMT

The FSU win over North Texas State was in the late '70s or early '80s.

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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: BYU-SDSU
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:42:07 GMT

fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:
>
>  That Marshall Faulk guy sure looked awesome running at will against BYU.
>Is he that good or is the BYU defense that bad?   They play UCLA on the 
>26th, so that should be a good test for Faulk against a decent Pac-10 defense.

Yes, he is that good.  The guy had 150+ yards against Miami last year, and
they were one of the stingiest defenses against the run in the whole nation.
He led the nation in rushing yardage despite missing several games because
of injury.  This guy is the best college RB since Barry Sanders.  I am
very serious when I say that he has a very legitimate shot at winning three
Heisman Trophies should he decide to stay in school for that many more years.
Hell, he even got some votes last year--as an unheralded pure freshman from
a small WAC school no less.  Not as though he was a serious challenge to
Desmond or anything.  This year, he has the inside track after running for
200+ yards in his first two games against a perennially strong BYU and 
ususally strong (although not last year and we'll have to see this year)
U$C.  So just what is the NCAA record for yards in a season anyway?  He
could shatter that easily, it seems to me.  Assuming a 12 game (bowl included)
schedule, he would need to average 250 ypg to get 3000 yards.  With 299 
against BYU and 220 or so against USC, he is on a pace to get that kind of
yardage.  Also bear in mind that SDSt will play a lot of WAC teams which have
weak defensive lines (according to Heinrich's, only BYU has better than a
4.5 or better on a scale of 10).  The Aztec's still have nonconference games
against UCLA in the Rose Bowl and at home against Miami, Fl.  These two are
the only two that even have a shot at stopping him from getting 100+ yds,
IMHO.

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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: 91 BlockBuster (Was Re: Bama in the polls)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:35:06 GMT

In article <BuAKoG.E26@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:
>
>Sure hope Miami gives Colorado a insensitive disasters in the Orange Bowl.

I wouldn't count on that... besides, Football isn't my life, you know.

Njan
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From: tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden)
Subject: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:05:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.010109.22182@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR)) writes:
>As I watch tonight's game (9/10) between San Diego St. and BYU, I
>see that the BYU fans are calling their team the most hated in America.
>Huh?? I can think of 10 or more teams that I hate more than BYU. Just
>what is BYU thinking??? Anyone from BYU care to comment???

Let's see... I hate Notre Dame, all of the Big 10, any of the Pac 10...
Nope, I don't see BYU there.  They're neither here nor there.

While I'm at it, I really hate Miami, Florida State, and Georgia, but
I'd root for them over anyone out of the SEC or Florida due to
conference and state pride.  A paradox?

Gators!
Andy

P.S.  BYU *is* a WAC school, right?

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAL??!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:24:40 CDT

In article <1992Sep14.162953.2023@news.acns.nwu.edu> fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:
>
>I realize I am leaving myself open to flames from all over the country, but
>oh well:
>
>This Purdue/Cal result is more distressing to Northwestern students (those
>that actually follow football AND root for our team) than our own 49-0
>trouncing this week by Boston College, because Purdue was thought to be one
>of the teams that our team could beat this year.  My last hope is that
>California is as overrated now as Illinois was when our team beat them last
>year...

Not really.  You suffer what many other schools do in the Big 10 - local
optimism.  Purdue is a little better than what most of your local experts
describe.  For instance, the student paper here in Wisconsin has predicted
Purdue to be an easy win the last 2 years.  Well, last year they were
wrong, and although I expect this year's game to be closer, I don't think
Bucky can win unless Purdue is not playing well.  The thing is that you see
a team similar in talent, and you hype it up as a win, to make yourselves
feel better.

But remember 1988 - Purdue upset a TOSU team in Columbus, and then managed
to lose to Northwestern.  I wouldn't lose hope, but don't hold your breath.
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Subject: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:17:38 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <RHOUSTON.92Sep11074928@peoa.glacier.sim.es.com>, rhouston@glacier.sim.es.com (Richard Houstan) writes:
>but all the "I just hate them" quotes were from players and coaches 
>in the WAC. I was surprised when no one mentioned it on the net before, 
>I would have thought the article would really piss off the miami fans. 
>They are proud of being the "TRUE" most hated team in the nation aren't
>they?
>
I think OBU(ND) has them beat.  
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From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Njan - CU's most embarassing poster??? (was: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???)
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:31:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.162621.8259@javelin.sim.es.com> dpettit@javelin.sim.es.com (Daina Pettit) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.191902.5600@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:

>>what's BYU?
>>
>>Njan
>
>Isn't BYU that team that played Colorado twice in the last 10-15 years and
>beat them both times?  :^)

Probably.  I only remember the '89 bowl loss.  But I'm sure Njan is the
same poster who just said that Grbac's late interception was the worst
play [call] ever, somehow forgetting McCartney's decision to punt to
Ismail in the final minute of the '91 Orange Bowl with the national
championship on the line.

C'mon, Njan, you can do better than that :-)
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From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Nebraska WOOFings!!??
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:10:16 GMT
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)

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behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian) writes:

>I have detected some WOOFings from Nebraska fans about how the BIG RED is gonna
>come to Seattle and just beat the Huskies!!  :)

Are you reading posts that I have not read? I recall myself and some others
who have predicted that HuskERS will give the HuskIES a tough game. But I do
not recall anyone saying anything like "the BIG RED is gonna come to Seattle and just beat the Huskies!!".

I know you put a smiley behind that but the smiley contradicts the percieved
intent of the words.

>I gotta admit that the gaping holes that the defense allowed against ASU were
>not very pretty, but I also do believe that the defense will come together by
>6:30 pm come September 19th.

I have no doubts about that also. Good teams get up for big games.

>Well, I'll leave it at that and let the teams do the talking on the field...

Yup! And may the best team win !!!

Husker Henderson

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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Virginia Tech
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:35:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Virginia


With each passing week, I become more convince that Tech will beat Virginia
this year.

Why?? Becuase when teams like tech have bad years--and tech has not been
impressive so far, beating JMU, a nobody team who lost to Richmond this week-
and now losing to EC-TC, then they really take it out on their big rivals.

When I was growin up in Alabama, Auburn won The Game several years in a row.
It wasnt until Bama had a miserable 4-6 record going into The Game that the
tide could beat the Haughty Tigers and TIe Dye........

-rob
From: dbarring@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Dwayne Barrington)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: UCF - Tony (Just say 'Noles) Travaglini
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:41:51 GMT
Reply-To: dbarring@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Dwayne Barrington)
Organization: Harris GISD


Tony,

I was wondering why you are not attending FSU 
instead of UCF.   As a UCF alumnus and avid booster,
I bleed black and gold.  I do like the seminoles too, but
UCF comes first.   You rant and rave about FSU, while
at the same time slam UCF.  

Do you actually go to any UCF football games?  You 
complain about the way UCF blew out Gardner-Webb.
If you were there you might not complain.  UCF played
2nd and 3rd teams for most of the second half and those
teams kept scoring.  You can't tell them to go out and
lay down after preaching to them about the importance
of giving 100% during practice.

I agree that Gardner-Webb was not the best apponent
for UCF, but they were scheduled after the Temple game
was dropped.  We were supposed to play Temple away
this year and home next year, but Temple broke the
contract by informing UCF that they could not play in
Orlando next year.

When I attended UCF, there were a few students that
walked around campus in FSU or UF apparel.  You must
be one of THOSE kind of students.  The majority of the
student population and the school newspaper frowned
upon this breach of loyalty.

Once UCF moves to division 1A and is successful, the
once un-loyal UCF students and alumni will swear 
that they have always been UCF supporters.
From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Texas bailout and conf. alignment rumors
Keywords: n
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:42:40 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

>
>UofT officials are studying a major expansion plan for Memorial
>Stadium  that could increase the capacity to more than 110000 seats -
>making it the largest stadium facility in the country.
>heat,' a UT source said ...
>
This has been around for a while.  A&M had similar plans drawn up in
the '85-'86 time frame to build a second deck on the 'shoe to increase
seating capacity to 92000.  With the state of the economy as of late,
neither school has had the audacity to try and get funds for it.  
Although A&M has been rejected for the All-Purpose Coliseuam type 
place.  If the economy gets better in Texas, look for both schools to
probably expand their stadiums by the year 2000.

>   Another factor that could affect UT and A&M's future in the SWC is
>SMU's upcoming decision about the future of its football program.
>Citing large athletic department budget cuts, SMU has appointed a task
>force to study whether to keep Division I-A football.
>   'If SMU decides to drop their football program, that could be the
>impetus needed for Texas to leave the SWC,' the source said.  'But
>whether SMU drops their football program or not, it is my
>understanding the decision to leave or stay will be made by spring
>1994.

This decision will be interesting...  Tulsa is a quick fix, but major
re-alignment of the Big 8 and SWC is a very good possibility...

cmuck (so long from the A&M and the 7 dwarfs conference)


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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bama, God, and Bear Bryant
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:57:28 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1992Sep9.203211.18536@wl.com> wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:
>Bear Bryant went to his grave with an 0-4 record against Notre Dame. 
>Could it be that God is Catholic after all?

Maybe, but isn't it  written that "whoever will be last on Earth will be
first in Heaven", or words to that effect?

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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: ND's DuBose Situation
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:46:41 GMT

In article <9209081158.AA23345@dseg.ti.com> noonan@DSEG.TI.COM (Michael Noonan) writes:

   In article <BILLMS.92Sep4174619@z.eecs.umich.edu>,
   billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:

   [About Irish fans' prediction of Michigan excuses after loss to ND...]
   >Where does all of this pomposity come from?  Look, its not like you guys have
   >either a winning streak or lead in the series going for you!  Sheesh...
   >Imagine South Bend if they finally start to *win* some!
		       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^????

   Notre Dame lost last year.  Before that, I believe it was 6 straight
   wins over Michigan for the Irish?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong,
   but I know it was at least 4 straight, I was at ND for four years
   and never saw a loss to Michigan.  I'd call that finally starting to
   win some.

Oh.  So you *do* want to live in the past.  Well then.  Anybody know what the
all time series record is?

This is all kind of stupid.  Can't we just get excited about this years
games?  Sheesh...

   (Of course if ND hadn't had Mirer, Ismail, Rice, Ho, Watters, Brown...
   they wouldn't have won those years. :-)

You know, if you went to the trouble to understand an argument, rather than
mindlessly repeating a misrepresentation of it, you might be dangerous.  :)

Bill
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From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Notre Dame schedule (was: Weekly top 25 )
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:25:07 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article <1992Sep11.162941.25832@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
godfrey@cs.washington.edu (Garr Godfrey) writes:

>>but benifitting from experience kept the score to 4-10 on the second day.
>Was football scored differently back then, or did they really get 2 safties?

Football was scored differently back then.  I seem to recall that kicks were
worth 4 points and touchdowns 6 and I believe dropkicks may have been worth
a different amount than field kicks.  But none of this is clear to me.
Also, teeth and noses were probably broken alot, I think the game was more
like rugby.  There were no forward passes and facemasks and pads were
not around either.  You had to be pretty tough - well tough but not pretty.
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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Purdue Goalposts
Date: 15 Sep 1992 03:22:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Sep14.123605@mccall.com>, scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
|> 
|> In article <BuJEtM.H6I@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, clammemb@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (matt) writes:
|> >How much does it cost to replace a set of goalposts!  
|> >Isn`t there supposed to be any security to stop things like that.
|> >I was at the game and saw only about four police officers total.
|> >
|> From what I learned at KansasSt, goalposts cost about $10,000
|> (not sure if that is a set or each).  And the reason for lack
|> of security is probably, that Purdue wasn't expected to win.
|> Why pay for something that isn't needed(extra security).  That
|> is probably the philosphy of the Univ.  Then again, stopping
|> 10,000 students from running onto the field and trying to protect
|> 2 goalposts isn't an easy job with 10+ officers.

Yup - $10000 is about right.  Back when I was a Yellowjacket, I remember
storming the field after beating Maryland for our first ACC victory after
14 (?) straight ACC losses (1989, I believe).  Bobby Ross said the $10000
was worth it.

Look out Purdue - at Georgia Tech it appeared that security towards the
end of every home game of the rest of the season doubled (like five cops
"casually" standing around each goalpost ...)

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From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Keywords: n
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:30:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.002536.12622@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>If Texas does join the Big 10, then they'll have 12 schools and probably
>split into 2 divisions like the SEC.  There'd be no reason for the Big
>Dozen (or the SEC) to also take A&M, and since there's no reason for A&M
>to stay in the Texas League, the Aggies will definitely join the Big 8!
>
>The Big 9 would still be able to play round-robin schedules in football
>(and basketball, too) with three non-conference games.
>
>Jay, how far is it to Norman and Stillwater?


Hmmm... I guess what you really want is the distance from A&M to those
places, not from Austin to those places. I guess we can extrapolate
it to be about 7-8 hours (plus/minus 1) to each place, based on the
Austin-Norman drive of about 7 hours (Dallas is almost directly in
between). I think one of the A&M posters can give you a MUCH better
answer, since the one I'm thinking of was at OkState before A&M.
Was that you, Goober, or someone else?

I really think Texas and A&M should join the SEC, giving it 2 7-team
divisions, or, perhaps even better, those two plsu Texas Tech and Houston
should join the Big 8, giving it 2 6-team divisions. Yeah, I like that!
The Southwest division would consist of UT, A&M, TT, UH, OU, and OSU;
the North division would consist of the others (Colorado, Nebraska,
KU, KState, etc.) Travel times would be reasonable, the Big 8 gets
to add Texas markets to it's viewing, the Texas schools get to 
play in a decent conference. Let me get DeLoss on the phone... I'll
post the results later! ;-)

Jay


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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Beano "Kiss of Death" Cook's  top 5 9/13/92
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:54:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.225817.21479@ncar.ucar.edu> ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert) writes:
>
>I am extremely fearful because he picked Colorado 3rd in the nation on 
>Sunday. Does this spell disaster for the BUFFS? What kind of disasters 
>have befallen Beano's picks in the past. I bet he pick ND previously as 
>3rd and look what happened to them. What diety should I be praying to.

Why don't go to an astrologer and find out? About praying, maybe you should
ask coach Mac.... he's known for his advices on that subject...

>No BUFF fan in the world (with the exception of Njan) really believes the
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Buffs are top 5 RIGHT NOW especially after giving up the most rushing yardage
>since 1988 in the first game and then giving up 272 yards of passing against
>Baylor. 

real nice of you to make that decision for me. ( as I never said anything
myself! )

>Yet another Buff fan who can't stand Njan's lame attitude.

Good to know that you don't agree to my posts. My efforts aren't a total
waste afterall!

>Ethan Alpert  internet: ethan@ncar.ucar.edu | Standard Disclaimer:

Njan