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From: marv@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Marv Gordon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Beef Sandwich - Re: Amiga now kicks PC butt - no way.
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:25:03 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

dcable@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dan Cable) writes:
>ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>
>>'>That's it.  From what I can tell, the PCs lock up a lot more often than my
>>'>Amiga crashes, by far.  And often when they lock up, ctrl-shift-reset
>>'>doesn't work and you have to power cycle.  But rebooting an Amiga with
>>'>ctrl-amiga-amiga always (and I mean ALWAYS) works.  Overall, my Amiga
>>'>crashes about once per week (I leave it on 24 hours/day, and i use it for
>>'>several hours each day, mostly commercial apps).  The PCs in the lab crash
>>'>a couple of times per day, and sometimes a couple of times per minute.  It
>>'>all depends on the software.  (And yes, OS/2 crashes also, just as much as
>>'>Windows 3.1).
>
>>	My experience is completely opposite.  I've had my 486 running OS2
>>   since 2.0 came out in Late March.  It's only crashed once since then,
>>   and that was my fault for trying to load the wrong drivers.  I've had
>>   many bugridden freeware and shareware DOS programs crash under OS2, but
>>   fortunately because OS2 uses memory protection, the app dies not the
>>   OS.  This is something the Amiga OS sorely lacks.  On the Amiga's I
>>   have used ( owned an A500, had access to an A3000 ) when programs died
>>   it took the whole OS with it, and programs died quite a bit.  A heck
>>   of a lot more then programs do on my 486 with OS2.                
>
Well, I have an A3000 at home with 2.04 in rom and the 2.1 upgrade.  At work I
am developing under OS/2 with extended services AND the october service pack
GA upgrade.  Now I like OS/2 ...... BUT it is NOT more stabe than my AmigaDos!
and for general use it's a PIG with an 8 meg system it starts swapping like
crazy running just a couple apps.  One thing for sure, I'll take it over
Windoz ANY day......

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From: rthorstr@doc.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: -- FOR SALE ---> HP7470A Plotter
Date: 11 Dec 92 08:10:06 MST

FOR SALE -- HP7470A PLOTTER (2 pen)

          - RS232 serial port
          - several used and new pens with storage container
          - will throw in a serial cable
          - $150 plus shipping

                            Rod Thorstrom
                            EMAIL --> rthorstr@oz.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: ghost@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Hartmut Kuehn)
Subject: ATI and Eizo T560iT ?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:06:07 GMT

Hi all !

I plan to buy the ATI Pro 2 and the Eizo T560iT.
Recently someone told me that the Eizo does 70 HZ at 1280x1024,
the ATI does 72 HZ at 1280x1024.
Is this a problem for the monitor ?
If so, can I adjust the card to do 70 Hz at 1280x1024 ?

Thanks and bye

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From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: NO Product support. BOYCOTT?
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:13:52 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Dec14.124541.1@ualr.edu> djlewis@ualr.edu writes:
>	I feel that any vendor that sells their product without the information
>(address/phone) included is probably not intending to support the product and
>may be a "Fly By Night" company just out for the quick cash.

Of course you may also find that companies not printing their addresses
are not "fly by night" but just have addresses in Taiwan with no US
representation.  That makes the address more or less useless to most US
users, and they probably also omit it based on "Buy American" chauvanism
that they seek to avoid.
From: mccauleyba@vax1.bham.ac.uk (Brian McCauley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of switching to SCSI for a PC.
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:39:50 GMT
Organization: University of Birmingham
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.bham.ac.uk

In article <1992Dec15.134452.4165@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com>, c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Mahesh Bagade) writes:
> Hi Netters!
> 
> I am planning to purchase a pc and hence I am involved in some research
> as to what I should be looking for.
> 
> Can gurus on the net give me an idea of what SCSI is and it's pros & Cons?
> All I know is that, it is an interface which will provide multiple expansion
> slots.
> 
> Are there any standards? 
> It is widely supported? 
> Are there any compatibility problems? 
> Will I face any problems in future?

SCSI is widely supported and standard. There can be compatability problems
but these are more common with tape drives than disk drives. (You will
probably need a propriatory tape driver program and you will also usually
get proprietory tape format).

One problem with some SCSI interfaces is that their BIOS does not support
multitasking so write behind caches won't work. We bought a 486/50 with SCSI
to replace a 386/33 with IDE and it was hardly any faster. These old BIOS
chips are rare now and suppliers should be willing to replace them if your
unlucky enough to get stuck with one.

SCSI disk drives tend to be more expensive than their IDE counterparts.

SCSI printers, modems etc. are very rare.

Most CD-ROMs are SCSI
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From: gt0952b@prism.gatech.EDU (Gregory P. Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Need help with hard drive
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:51:32 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Help!

	I have a 106MB Toshiba IDE hard drive.  I've had it for almost 2 years 
with no problems, but over the last couple of days I've been going crazy over
it.  3 times now, all of a sudden when I'm trying to run a program or something,
I get a message about an error in my file allocation tables.  Each time I've
used Norton Disk Doctor to fix them, but lots of files have been corrupted and
I have to reinstall everything.  Today, I tried to edit a file and got the 
message :
C> file sector not found

So, anybody have any clues?  Is my harddrive dead?  I appreciate any help
or advice.

Greg

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From: comptec91025@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Ian Hobday)
Subject: Re: How to use a joystick in a mouse port?
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:49:26 GMT

In article <Bz9zzD.C2D@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umpicton@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Paul Joseph Picton) writes:
> I have a joystick I wish to use on my notebook computer but there is
> no option of adding a gameport.  There is an expansion chassis available
> but expensive and cumbersome.  It has a serial port and a dedicated
> mouse port.  Since mice and joysticks both convert linear motion into
> signals I thought it might be possible to make an adaptor which would
> allow me to use the joystick in the mouseport.  It is a standard joystick
> and Microsoft compatible mouseport. Thanks.
> 
> Paul Picton
> 
> email: Paul_Picton@umanitoba.ca
> ~.
> .
> 

As far as I know, this can't be done (at least I couldn't find out a way to
do it!!)  The Joystick works on a polling process, where the CPU looks for
it, and accepts the information it has to offer.  The mouse works on an
interupt idea, where it generates an interupt, and forces the CPU to look at
it and get its info.  I have seen a gadget that allows you to plug a joystick 
into a serial port, but then there is the problem of tricking the software 
into thinking that the joystick input is coming from the mouse port, not the 
joystick one. (the converter from joystick-serial came with an advanced 
flight simulator, and the software knew to expect signals from a serial 
port.)

If anyone has ever managed to connect a joystick to a serial port, and get it 
to work with games, please let me know!!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
Subject: Re: ZEOS 486DX2-xx systems just don't ship
Originator: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:29:31 GMT
Reply-To: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Keywords: ZEOS 486DX2


In article, sasbge@unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston) writes:
>For the last two months, I have posted several times regarding my
>experiences with an order I placed for a ZEOS 486DX2-66Mhz PC.  I
>have received *lots* of private Email regarding my "experiences"
>and lately, I have gotten questions as to whether or not I have
>actually received my order.  The answer is NO!
[...lots of stuff I wrote deleted...]

Well, for those of you following this saga and as promised,
here is Chapter 11 ;-)

The much discussed, long awaited ZEOS system arrived TODAY!  At this
time, I do not care to rehash the major fiasco(s) of the last week.
If you really want the gory details, email me privately and I will
consider composing the GD's.

I was a bit miffed that Customer Service has repeatedly told me that
my system would be arriving *complete* and that every item ordered
would be included.  Well that was lie number 47.  I did discover later
that Customer Service at ZEOs is the *last* dept. to find out just
about anything regarding an order. 

The Intel 400 SatisFAXtion internal modem is backordered and ZEOs
has substituted the VESA video board for a DIAMOND 24X card.  I
have been playing phone tag with Tech Support all day.  In
one message, the tech guy said that they would try and get the
VESA card out so that I could use both for a while and decide which
video board that I wanted to keep.

I welcome any comments regarding the Diamond24X vs. VESA...

I haven't been able to get back with him.  I get the idea that a
lot of Tech reps at ZEOS feel that the Diamond 24X is *better*
than their own VESA option.

Tech Support has agreed however, to extend my 30 day evaluation warranty
that comes standard with each new system.  They are faxxing documents
that effectively postpone the 30 day window until I have received
both the modem and and VESA board.  I think this is only fair and
I am pleased that they have chosen to do this.  I don't think I
could have completely evaluated the "system" without all the pieces
running as a unit.

Finally, I haven't powered up the system yet.  I just got it from
FedEX and took it home and did a quick inventory, before I went into
work this morning.  This weekend should be fun.  Please reply via
Email if you have any questions regarding this system.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: esaffle@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ed Saffle)
Subject: Re: Is the amd 386 40Mhz by Cyrix, if so is it crap ?
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:27:27 GMT

In article <1fvg8lINNj1v@nutmeg.csv.warwick.ac.uk> cstaddc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M A Stuart) writes:
>	Hi, a little while ago I brought a Cyrix maths copro which blew
>my current computer up.
>	I am a little worried therefore about purchasing an AMD 386 40Mhz
>as  I believe this is by Cyrix.  

  I run a 40MHz 386 cpu in my system, never had any problems with it...and I
got the Cyrix 387-40 to go in it and it works just great.  I am quite happy
with those two aspects of my system.

Ed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mikes@mikes.mentorg.com (Mike Stanbro)
Subject: Video Acceleration for MCA?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:21:39 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

I am looking for a video accelerator board that has a Micro-Channel bus.  
Does anyone have knowledge of such a beast?  I spent most of the afternoon
on the phone calling manufactures and dealers and only came up with *one*
manufactured by ATI.  It is rated at 8 Winspecs vs. 25 for there ISA based
boards.

-- 
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Mentor Graphics Corporation
mikes@pdx.mentorg.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: Re: What do you think of the Gravis analog joystick?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
 
 
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:08:54 GMT




Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Where the mac really wins
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:35:58 GMT

In article <ibhan.723703217@husc10> ibhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
>bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
>
>>an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke) writes:
>
>>The last Mac I used was a IIci.  The hardware was not Fisher Price,
>>but the mentality behind the machine and OS was Fisher Price and
>>Dr. Montessori.
>
>The IIci is moving towards the low-end now.  But how is it "Fisher Price"?

>That's why Apple is the number one PC company now, eh?  You can get a 16
>Mhz Mac for under $1000 with 4 Mb RAM, SCSI, 8-bit sound input and output,
>and a 40 MB HD.  

Oooooo! You forgot to add the cost of the keyboard. Its the one with 
the porthole, right?

>You make all these statements about NT.  First of all, NT
>doesn't seem to be anywhere right now.  Secondly, the Mac OS will have
>progressed quite a bit by then, and Pink looks like it'll be superior to
>NT.  How many users need the features of NT anyway?

Ummm System 7 will still be crawling around second quarter 93 I'll
bet... Do you have the Pink beta CD ROM yet, let alone hardware to 
run it on? Besides the hardware will still be proprietary..

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
Subject: High density (chinon) drive on XT (revisited)
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:18:33 GMT

Hi,

I asked about putting a high density drive on an XT before and
people assured me it should be possible (my thoughts exactly).
However, when I got to try it yesterday, all the machine
came up with was general failure... It noticed properly
if the drive wasn't ready and the drive light functioned
ok when the disk was accessed, so I am assuming it doesn't
handle the drives signals properly.

The drive is a chinon model FZ-357. It has several jumpers:

MM/MD - set to MM
RDY/DC - set to DC
TTL/C-MOS - set tot TTL
DS0/DS1/DS2/DS3 - set to DS1

if someone has any information on this drive or what the
abbreviations could mean, please share.

The target machine is an 8088 clone with an AMI bios for 
Superwave electronics, dated 1987 and numbered 1150-050687.
The floppies are driven by a multi i/o card with a game port
two serial ports, a parallel port and a floppy controler.
There where two 5.25 drives on the system previously.
I also set the drivparm = /F:2 /D:1

If you can see the problem here, please let me know

Thanks
Erik

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tmottone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Teemu Mottonen)
Subject: Conner CP6027 info needed
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:20:08 GMT

I need info on the Conner CP6027 hard drive. My portable has this drive,
it's 60MB, 5V 640 mA, possibly IDE and about 10x7 cm (4"x3") in size.
Also, any info on similar but over 60 MB drives by Conner or others is
greatly appreciated. I'd like to replace this drive with a larger one
and install OS/2 2.0.

Thanks in advance,
Teemu.
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Dept. of Computer Science    tmottone@kruuna.helsinki.fi
Univ. of Helsinki, Finland   tmottone@klaava.helsinki.fi      

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,alt.cd-rom
From: eddy@einstein.et.tudelft.nl (J.G.E. Olk)
Subject: Problems with Philips CM50 CDROM player on fast PCs
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:45:23 GMT


Anyone got a solution to get the Philips CM50 CDROM player and the
proprietary interface card working on a fast machine?

The problem I experience with it is that reading a CDROM does not work
on all machines (I tried quite a few), the audio control stuff does however.
Especially on 486 machines (ISA or EISA) the CM50 won't read CDROMs,
disabling (all) caches doesn't help. On a 386DX/33 it works more or
less, although there are occasional read errors and, strangely enough,
lowering the CPU clock speed to 8MHz also puts the CM50 out of order.
On a 4.77/9.54 MHz V20 XT it works like a charm and switching the CPU
clock doesn't give any troubles.

I'm almost sure there is a problem in the PHILIPS.SYS device driver,
most likely with the DMA stuff to read the CDROM. I suspect there must
be some sort of relation between the CPU speed and the DMA transfer
speed. The PHILIPS.SYS I use is version 1.03, Oct. 1991. 
Perhaps someone knows of a newer version?

Furthermore, I'd be very happy if someone could provide me with info
on the properietary interface so I can write my own DOS/Linux device
driver.

Thanks,
- Eddy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
Subject: Re: "SIX PACK PLUS multi I/O Card.....HELP!"
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:08:18 GMT

Hi,
	One a related note: Can someone send me the jumper settings for the
above card with 6 banks of 64K DRAMS? I.E. 384k? The memory switch is S1.

Thanks,
John


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From: jregehr@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (John David Regehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Bus def's ==> Re: EISA vs. ISA (& VESA, VL-bus, Local bus)
Date: 11 Dec 1992 16:37:57 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

>Close.  It runs at UP TO 33 MHz (I've been told the actual spec goes
>up to 40 MHz, but there are no 40 Mhz VL systems out there yet because
>there aren't any 40 MHz CPUs except for the AMD 386.  The VL bus will,
>obviously run at the speed of the CPU.  If the CPU is a 25 MHz part,
>the VL bus slots will run at 25 MHz (not 33 MHz).  I'm not sure what
>happens if the CPU is a 50 MHz part, either.

I believe that the spec goes up to 50 Mhz, but anything over 33 Mhz has
to be built into the motherboard.                                     

                                             - John
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Is the amd 386 40Mhz by Cyrix, if so is it crap ?
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:02:29 GMT

In <1fvg8lINNj1v@nutmeg.csv.warwick.ac.uk> cstaddc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M A Stuart) writes:



>	Hi, a little while ago I brought a Cyrix maths copro which blew
>my current computer up.

How in the world can a math processor blow your cmputer up?  What did
you do, install it with a balpeen hammer?

>	I am a little worried therefore about purchasing an AMD 386 40Mhz
>as  I believe this is by Cyrix.  

No connection between AMD and Cyrix that I'm aware of.

>	I have also heard something about about software controllers of the c.p.u.
>is this for real.

Huh?  Presumably, you're talking about the software to enable the
cache on the Cyrix chip.  All cached chiped have to do this -- the
difference is whether or not you have a motherboard and BIOS designed
to do it or you have to do it manually.  In a new system, I would
expect this to be transparent to the user.

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From: adamg@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (AP Glowka)
Subject: S3 Inc. contact nbr/addrs
Keywords: S3 Inc.
Organisation: Uni of NSW, Australia
Reply-To: adamg@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (AP Glowka)
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:54:21 GMT

If somebody knows the tel/fax or internet address of S3 Inc.
(as in the graphics chip manufacturer) please let me know.
Thanks in advance.

cheers
adam

adamg@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au
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