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From: justin@nx20.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: internment camps, could it happen again?
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:20:12 GMT
    <19921115172410IYI4DTN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx20.mik.uky.edu!justin

In <19921115172410IYI4DTN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> IYI4DTN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU writes:

>In article <1992Nov15.172040.12109@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, on 15 Nov 1992 17:20:40 GMT,
>wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:

>>
>Well, they may not get away with it again, but we sure came close!  In
>the 80's, proposals were brought forth to intern Palestinians in a
>concentration camp in Louisiana (this was during the Iran hostage
>crisis).  The government went so far as to actually build such a
>facility!
[rest of descriptive fascist FBI behavior deleted]
That's very interesting.. I wasn't aware that. It does though, bring up a 
fine opportunity to relate a little story from a friend of mine, who happens
to be from Beirut.. 

  On a trip to New York, he wanted to see Niagra Falls, but only from
the Canadian side. So, passport in hand, he drove to the border (he had friends
with him, all of which were American citizens). Before he crossed, a Canadian
official looked him straight in the eye and told him that although he would
be welcome in Canada, come hell or high water, his American colleague would
*NOT* let him back into the US. It seems that in the past few months or so,
our super government has seen fit to prohibit *ANY* Lebanese from entering
the United States, under any circumstances.. And JUST because they're
Lebanese. 
  The peculiar little twist on his experience was that the American
customs official seemed to be in an awful hurry to rush him over the Canadian
border, until the nice Canadian chap told him why. :) He decided Niagra
Falls wouldn't be THAT bad from the American side (he was wrong..)

  Louisiana? Really? Louisiana is probably the *LAST* place in America 
a foriegner would want to find himself. I'll lay odds that they built
this facility in a nice cozy bayou near where I'm from (Thibodeaux,
Lafourche Parish). 70 miles SOUTH of Baton Rouge, where people still speak
Cajun, and where I'm sure they'd shoot a foreigner first before asking if
he's come to invade them..
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Subject: Re: Delivery of Merchandise (was Re: Japanese employees and consumer
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:53:32 GMT

masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>    Some comments from a Japanese point of view.
> 
> [1] The "flexibility" of the delivery schedule is often an unavoidable
>     result of horrible traffic conditions especially in Tokyo area.
>     If some company gives an exact time for a delivery, I'd wonder
>     if the company is really trustworthy.

If some of the auto suppliers can have JIT, I'm sure that they could 
offer the same type of precision in delivery.  However, I shouldn't 
criticize since we're talking about completely different industries.  
Even JIT is starting to fall apart becuase of all the gridlock.  It's 
become a lot worse for companies delivering since the government now 
requires small trucks to have a parking space (this wasn't the case up to 
two years ago, if I'm correct).

BTW, JIT = just in time 

k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
    <SMITTIE.92Nov19140711@tui.csulb.edu> <1992Nov21.020907.25319@adobe.com>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:05:50 GMT
Distribution: usa

In <1992Nov21.020907.25319@adobe.com> pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:

>In New York City two undercover cops were trying to arrest a woman.
>One had her covered with a gun, the other was searching her purse for
>a weapon. Three other uniformed cops came along and assumed the
>undercover cops were robbing the woman. They told the undercover
>cop with a gun to freeze and when he didn't, they shot him. Emptied
>a semiautomatic and a revolver into the undercover cop. The one with
>a semiauto was reloading in preparation to shoot again before he
>realized he had shot another cop.

But they're not at all triggy happy, are they? NOOOOO... Empties two guns
into another scum-sucking pig, and then feels the need to empty ANOTHER
one into his bullet-ridden body? I thought cops were only supposed to shoot
if necessary and then not shoot to kill (unless threatened by another
miltant pig with a bigger gun, I guess). Why didn't they just beat the
'muggers' over the head with their clubs? Cops seem to enjoy that, too.
Okay, so it was an accident that he shot another officer, but this reminds
me of those phrases like: "No, I didn't murder him, officer. He fell on the
butcher knife! (30 or 40 times)" Honestly, folks.. 
Just goes to show you: Never trust a cop. Every cop I ever look at looks like
he thinks everyone around him is a serial killer on the run. If cops had their
way, they would shoot everyone they thought might have done something wrong
at some point in their life on-site.
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Not again !(was: Fingerprinting Gaijin)
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:13:05 GMT

mj1078@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp (mmanuel pece) writes:

>Please, don't start again with the fingerprinting procedure.
>We had this discussion only some months ago.

>Manuel, a fingerprinted gaijin

Agreed. 

I lost my alien registration card & my U.S. passport a couple of
weeks ago. Got the passport yesterday (had to raise my right hand a
swear that what I had written was the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth), and will get the alien registration card
today (and will have to put my finger on that curious piece of paper
that turns into a fingerprint). 

IMHO, these are just some of the minor inconviences one must deal with
to live outside of your native country. I'd rather get a fingerprint
every year rather than fill in the form for U.S. taxes!

Dave

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JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087





Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: "Otoko kotoba" and "On-na kotoba" (Male language and female language)
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:30:50 GMT

  Some Japanese netter responded to me by mail and pointed out that there
are some dialects that have "ore" as on-na kotoba, which I know is true. 
Although I didn't mention it clearly in my previous posting, I had a
standard Japanese (hyoujun-go) in my mind.
    
  He also mentioned that his sister calling herself as "boku" (otoko kotoba for
the pronoun "I") sounds cute to him. I agree with him that on some occasions,
the "political incorrectness" could make a positive effect. However, in more 
cases, there seems to be a social pressure or a peer pressure that makes us 
follow the rule.

--Michiaki
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns,misc.legal
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:26:31 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <1992Nov10.190319.4792@adobe.com> by pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai):

> Voluntary manslaughter is unintentional but the result of deliberately
> taking actions which are risky. Driving on bald tires and having
> an accident might be an example.
> 
> Involuntary manslaughter is unintentional and not something which
> a reasonable person could have avoided. A possible example is
> a driver getting a blowout from an object on the road he could
> not have seen and losing control and running over someone.

I don't think so, at least if you are describing a crime.  A crime requires
"mens rea", or a "guilty mind".  Are you saying that a person could run over
something they didn't know was there and that they didn't see "with malice
aforethought"...? :)


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From: yoneta@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Takashi Turkey Yoneta)
Subject: Japanese Education
Summary: because i am writing a paper on the education system in Japan, i woulld
Keywords: comparason contrast
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:08:43 GMT


Because I am writing a paper on the education system in Japan, I would like
to get the response from anyone experienced with this system. if you could 
expound on the subjects of juku, exam hell, and art education inparticular, 
it would be most helpful to me.  I will be using part of statemnets in my
paper as support of my theories. My emphasis is art education so this is my 
priority. thanks to all who respond.
From: kenji@rcac.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: ftp sites
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:34:51 GMT
Organization: RCAC Project, ASTEM RI, Kyoto, Japan
In-reply-to: lkawamot@zeus.calpoly.edu's message of 21 Nov 92 20:14:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.201421.417386@zeus.calpoly.edu> lkawamot@zeus.calpoly.edu (Len Kawamoto) writes:
>   anyways, there was a post earlier this month or maybe last month about
>   JWP ( a japanese word processor for windows ) and it had an ftp site
>   listed (not the one at kilroy.nasa.gov) I was wondering if anyone still
>   remebers the ftp site I'm talking about. It had other Japanese stuff on
>   there and I would like to take a look at them, and unfortunately I mis-
>   placed the site name... So if somebody can e-mail me the address or post
>   it again, I would be greatful. 

utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp and sh.wide.ad.jp are the nearest anonymous FTP
sites for people getting access from outside Japan. I don't know where
the "JWP" is there, but check these archives first - or you can even
ask to your local archie server. (telnet archie.ans.net or
archie.sura.net for more details from USA)

// Kenji
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From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Re: How bad are Japanese drivers?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:50:07 GMT

Kenichiro Tanaka <kt12+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> [...] You really _have_ to be a good
>driver to drive in Japan because the streets are so crowded and small. 

On the other hand, I think more American drivers are better aquainted with 
high-speed driving. Occasionally one hears about Japanese students going wild 
on American highways and failing to negotiate a turn (and the like).  
I agree that more Japanese drivers are better at maneuvering in tight spots.
Some Jp taxi drivers ability borders on "kami-waza".

>And many times, just getting your car into the garage is an acrobatic
>feat--some cars have folding side mirrors to allow room when parking. 
>That's how tight the garages are.

Even more acrobatic trying to get out of the car in such a garage :-)
From: lindaa@sooth.Berkeley.EDU (Linda Absher)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Question About Citizenship
Date: 23 Nov 1992 20:30:54 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: sooth.berkeley.edu

This may be a fairly obscure question, but I was wondering if it is 
possible for someone who once had Japanese citizenship (I was a dual
Citizen-US/Japan) to re-obtain it.  

I have been told by friends that the only way to become a Japanese 
citizen is if I renounce my U.S. citizenship, something I have no
intention of doing.  In my dealings with the Japanese Consulate,
my impression has been that what info one receives depends on the
person answering the question.

I'm not sure if many people hold this question, but I'd be 
interested in knowing just how exactly Japanese immigration 
views this question.
 
-- 
   $  Linda Absher		$ "Jane! Get me off of this               $ 
   $  lindaa@info.Berkeley.EDU	$      crazy thing!!!"                    $
   $				$    -George Jetson, "The Jetsons"        $
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 14:05:24 EST
Organization: Upchurch Computer Consulting, Orlando FL

fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes:

> In article <SMITTIE.92Nov19225905@beach.csulb.edu> smittie@csulb.edu (Smittie
> >Here in the States it is not all that uncommon to hear about kids who get a
> >hold of a gun and in the course of playing with it (this usually entails
> >pointing it at each other) someone gets shot.
> 
> Actually, such events are extremely uncommon. There were only 677 such
> deaths in 1986, out of a population of over 250,000,000: It would
> be literally acurate to call this a "one in a million" accident (ok, about

Actually I think 677 would include everybody under 25. For children
under 15 there were 280 accidental firearm deaths in 87. I don't know
how many of those involve one child shooting another child. I assume in
some cases the accidental shot was fired by an 'adult'. By the time you
get in the late teens then a lot of the firearms accidents are probably
hunting related rather then accidents around the home. To put the 280
figure in perspective there were 1300 accidental drownings for children
under 15 in 87.

(If your mail bounces use the address below.)
Joel Upchurch/Upchurch Computer Consulting/718 Galsworthy/Orlando, FL 32809
joel@peora.ccur.com {uiucuxc,hoptoad,petsd,ucf-cs}!peora!joel (407) 859-0982
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Subject: Re: _o_
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:42:44 GMT

In article <41149@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
	ee152fdm@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington) writes:

>I think the smiley itself was invented in the USA just because
>that's where the USENET started out. But, there are many local
>variants all over the world. I think ^_^ is a Japanese one....

I love to add (^_^;) at the end of the sentence.
I don't know why.^_^;

# ';' on the right side of the face is important.

>		*^_^* (ringo no hoppe no Maiko?)

How about this one.



	^.^v (daijo- V!)

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Subject: Kanemaru's latest stunt
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:43:24 GMT
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan

   For those following the Kanemaru incident (50 oku yen Sagawa scandal),
the latest news:

   It was finally decided to call Kanemaru for questioning in the
incident.  However, Kanemaru had different plans.  He entered the
hospital for diabetes related eye surgery.  At ten days plus per eye,
Kanemaru won't be released until after the current session of the
Diet is over.  News Station claimed that it is obviously a move to
avoid testimony.  Kume-san (my favorite Japanese reporter) was in
good form in making comments which portrayed Kanemaru as he is :)
It was also mentioned that the same ploy was used by one of the
important witnesses to the Lockhead scandal (should be called a
crime, not a scandal) and by the Recruit guy when his illegal
activities came before the Diet.  In a poll of 1000 people on the
street, 82% said that Takeshita and 83% said that Kanemaru should
drop out of politics for there actions (crimes)...
Via: uk.ac.leeds.scs; Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:40:57 +0000
Distribution: world
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 13:41:10 GMT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: More on "gaijin" (was Re: Please give your opinions...)

In article <DIRCEU.92Nov20202830@nashi.taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp> you write:
>Have you noticed the capacity of people on TV have to talk for hours
>without saying anything? I'm not talking about interviews, where it is
>quite common that people dont know what to answer. But, for example,
>in those debates or TV shows where discussions take place. Sometimes I
>count up three or four consecutive meaningless sentences, or 5
>minutes of non-stop talk with no meaning at all, from people who are
>there invited to provide opinions about some topic.

I remember a great cartoon from "SARARIMAN" about this. Two salarymen are
shown in the Airport, and Takeshita is on the television talking away.
The caption pointing to the TV is "Words clear, meaning not understood at
all". Next an airplane flies from Narita to somewhere in the US. Next scene
is the same two salarymen in a back alley talking to a pimp.
The caption is "Words not understood at all, meaning clear".

Cheers,

Ross-c
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Re: Name Registration (Was: Re: Fingerprinting Gaijin)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:35:44 GMT

In article <2420@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>This suggests a strategy for those who want to become Japanese citizens
>without changing their names.  One can adopt as one's written name the
>characters normally used to write (for example) `Honda Taroo' and then
>insist that the proper reading is (for example) `Igor Cowznofski.'

As netters of years of reading know already, fingerprinting and name
changes, etc. are only faces of practical problems of JBKs and other 
minorities.  Writing Honda and reading Igor whatever whouldn't take 
nowhere even if you are in fairly large number to make some noise, but 
not large enough to be able to force effective changes, especially in 
quite stratified societies where historical settings are completely
disregarded.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: smittie@csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Re: Fingerprinting Gaikokujin
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
	<1992Nov22.232505.6399@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:45:38 GMT

>I suppose many Japanese who were not US citizen during the WWII was
>that way because they did not want to become US citizen... Djoe
>how were the naturalization law for asians back then in US?
>So, whoes dault was it?

Prior to WWII Japanese were prohibited from becoming citizens. Most of the
non-citizens that were interned had lived in the US for twenty years or more
and would, if they had been allowed, have become citizens.
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From: coganman@soda.berkeley.edu (Andrei Cogan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: HOKKAIDO'S ONLY AIRLINE IS USUALLY JUST WINGING IT
Date: 16 Nov 1992 08:02:10 GMT
Organization: None whatsoever...
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
Summary: don't believe it...

In article <1e6s8pINN2rm@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>(Reuters) -- SAPPORO, Hokkaido--An American oilman recently got more than he
>bargained for when he tried to ship some cargo on Hokkaido's sole airline,
>Shiku Airlines.
>
>Shiku officials told him his expensive mining equipment was unsuitable for
>the regular Sapporo-Tokyo service and he would have to charter a whole
>plane.
>
>The businessman duly shelled out the $6,500 requested for a 20-year-old
>Soviet-built tiwn-prop Antonov-26, and gathered his goods at the airport.
> [blah blah blah]

From the San Francisco Chronicle, 15 November 1992, pg. B9

"MIAT: THE WORLD'S QUIRKIEST AIRLINE"

"Mongolia's sole air service usually just wings it"

	An American oilman recently got more than he bargained for when he
tried to ship some cargo on Mongolia's sole airline, MIAT.
	MIAT officials told him his expensive mining equipment was
unsuitable for the regular Ulan Bator-Beijing service and he would have to
charter a whole plane.
	The businessman duly shelled out the $6,5000 requested for a
20-year-old Soviet-built twin-prop ANtonov-26, and gathered his goods at the
airport.

[rest of article deleted]

Notice any similarities, people?

	-Andrei
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From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Is Russia Softening??
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:20:47 GMT

_I_ don't think so...



	TOKYO (UPI) -- Government officials, closely watching Russian
President Boris Yeltsin's tour of South Korea Thursday, hailed the
Russian leader's apparent new interest in Asia and expressed hope that
Russo-Japanese ties improve.
	``This represents a change for Russia, and it is (a change) in the
right direction,'' a top-ranking Foreign Ministry official told the
Kyodo Tsushin news agency.
	Japan, which had invited Yeltsin to visit in September, was turned
down days before the scheduled visit amid bickering over the ownership
of four tiny islands off the northern coast of Japan claimed by both
countries.
	The Soviet Red Army seized the land in the closing days of World War
II. Japan, which has for decades demanded their return, refuses to
extend large financial aid to the struggling former states of the Soviet
Union, and Tokyo and Moscow never signed a peace treaty ending the war.
	``There is no change in our position that we are ready to talk with
President Yeltsin to improve Russo-Japanese ties,'' top government
spokesman Koichi Kato told Japanese reporters.
	Kato reportedly said he believes Russia attatches sufficient
importance to relations with Japan despite the cancelled visit.
	Yeltsin, who was in Seoul for a three-day tour, told South Korean
legislators that Russia and Japan share common views on the value of
civilization.
	It was Yeltsin's first trip to Asia since his election as Russian
president in 1990.
	``Russia is one of the countries that has a major impact on the Asia-
Pacific, and is an important factor in considering the future and
security of the region,'' Kato was quoted as saying by the English-
language Kyodo News Service.

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From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Re: Lawyer wanted! Immediately! 
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
	<SMITTIE.92Nov13104437@tui.csulb.edu>
	<1992Nov16.074028.828682@sue.cc.uregina.ca>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:59:49 GMT

>>                             Tada mono de ha nai
                                            ^
>Yes! You are...--->                        W


I realize that the sound here is 'wa' and not 'ha.' However, the hiranga
character is "ha" and I prefer to remain true to the hiragana. I just didn't
want you all to think it was a mistake.

smittie
--
                             Tada mono de ha nai
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