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From: wwalker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker)
Subject: Re: PB 180 video mirroring
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:59:38 GMT

In article <C1Ky18.5t4@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Barry Thomas
<thomasb@ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:
> 
> Our 180 finally arrived today.  The first thing I did was try the video
> out.  To my disappointment, the presentation mode (mirroring mode)
> reduced the size of display on the external monitor to the size of the PB
> screen.  Not what I had hoped for at all.  
> 
> I looked in the manual but no info, other than how to enable  this mode. 
> It this as good as it gets?  Have I missed something?  A trick?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Barry Thomas
> thomasb@ucs.indiana.edu
> Indiana University
> 
> Opinions expressed our my own and do not represent the University

I don't think you've missed anything.  In mirroring mode, the external
monitor displays exactly the same thing as the PB screen - no more, no
less.  Same number of pixels horizontally and vertically.  If the external
monitor has room for more pixels, well, the extra ones don't get used.  If,
on the other hand, you use the external monitor in non-mirroring mode,
you'll find that you get a full screen (and much faster updates, since it's
not drawing the same thing on two screens simultaneously).  This is not
much help for presentations, though, unless you can see both screens and
put the presentation output on the external monitor and the presentation
control on the PB screen.

----------
Bill Walker - WWalker@qualcomm.com - QUALCOMM, Inc., San Diego, CA
All opinions expressed are mine, and do not reflect those of my employer.
"First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers." - Shakespeare
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand)
Subject: Re: I'm think about getting a Mac, but ...
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:32:19

In article <C1DpIv.F7v@ccu.umanitoba.ca> sdyck@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sheldon Dyck) writes:

   Hi, I'm a long time Dos user who is going to be buying a new computer
   in a few weeks.  I have been looking at Macs and they look like really
   nice computers.  The only reservations I have about buying one is that
   it seems like they don't have resolutions higher then 640*480.  Unless
   you want to get the video board from NEC or some other expensive 
   solution.  Is this true?  If I'm paying $3000(cdn) I would expect higher 
   resolutions then 640*480.  Could someone clear this up for me please.
   Thanks in advance.

It all depends.  The Quadras have higher resolution,  most
of the others are 640x480x8 bits,  although the IIsi and IIci
will drive a 4 bit deep portrait monitor 640x860.  But the quadras
start at a fairly high price.

Reasonable video boards that drives large monitors seems to
cost in the 300 -> 500 dollar range (US) depending on depth and
resolution.  You can even get a pretty nice color portrait 
pivot from Radius for around $900 (US). 

In any case,  wait for the February batch to arrive and reevaluate.
I hope Apple considers going to a higher resolution standard.


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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Laserwriter 600/630 vs. HP Laserjet 4M
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:31:11 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch) writes:

>hades@dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes) writes:
>> Obviously you've never seen the QMS-PS1700. IMHO, it is every bit as
>> good as the IIIsi, and offers some things the IIIsi doesn't, which is why
>> I bought it instead.

>Well, the PS1700 also costs a lot more than the IIIsi with PostScript.

    Actually, at the time that I purchase my PS1700, the educational
discount that I got direct from QMS was only a couple of hundred more
than the street price of the IIIsi with LocalTalk, but the Mac-ready
IIIsi at that time came only with a LocalTalk port, and nothing else,
and there was no real way to get it to handle serial printing from the
IBM that I was planning on connecting it to, the PS1700 did, and I went
with QMS.

>However, the Compaq Pagemarq 20 blows both of them away for speed and
>costs less too (tradeoff is that there is no double-sided option on the
>Pagemarq, but there is 11x17).

    Yes, that's all well and good, but the thing didn't exist when I was
in the market for a high speed, high capacity laser printer. And I also
have no real need for 11x17.

>I think even the Pagemarq 15 processes PostScript code faster than the
>IIIsi and PS1700, but I don't have any test results handy.

    I don't know about that. The PS1700 that I have processes a page so
quickly that it appears to be slow because it has to wait for the
information to be sent over the LocalTalk port (what I wouldn't give for
EtherNet).

>One drawback to the Pagemarq is that Compaq does not have .APD, .PPD,
>.PDF, or .PDX files ready (unless they just came out in the past few
>weeks). 

    This is a big problem. We do a lot of printing from PageMaker in my
office to the PS1700, and the QMS .PPD file works great.

--
-Brian V. Hughes 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jbirge1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jonathan Birge)
Subject: VGA monitor with IIsi???
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:45:03 GMT

 My Panasync monitor died and since I have the IBM->Mac adapter cable I was
wondering if any VGA or SVGA monitors will work with the IIsi internal
video. In particular, I would like to know if the IBM PS/2 8513 13" VGA
color monitor will work. Thanks for any and all help! I suppose it would be
best to reply via email, but I read this group regularly so posting here is
fine, too.

																																															Thanks,
																																															Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: stuart@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Stuart Marlin)
Subject: Re: 21M Flopticals?
Keywords: flopticals, removable disks
Organization: Dept. Of Psychology,  Queen's University,  Kingston
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:32:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.150721.6713@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, rashid@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert G Rashid) writes:

|> This probably does not directly answer the original post, (startup
|> cost is almost double the cost of a floptical drive), but I have been
|> using the new Bernoulli Multidisk 150 for about a week now, with very
|> satisfactory results.  I ran my own cost/meg comparison and then also
|> factored in disk speed.  I initially was looking for optical, but
|> don't anticipate need for more than 1G.
|> 
|> Some comments on the Bernoulli:
|> 
|> The Multi 150 is backwards compatible with the 90.  (They claim that
|> there is a slower read/write, or something, however, it will read and
|> write to the 90M disks).  It also reads/writes to 35, 65, and 105
|> disks.
|> 
|> When compared to the Syquests, it is much faster for startup and
|> spindown.
|> 
|> They guarantee media for 5 years.  This will not necessarily resurrect
|> lost data, but will save the cost of new media in case of a failure.
|> The mechanism of the disk/drive is such that it is hard to destroy
|> data by head crashes, etc.
|> 
|> There is a drive that is specifically for the Mac (at a cheaper
|> price), or one designed for use on Mac or PC (or other platforms,
|> also).  
|> 
|> They are just starting to show up in the back of the Mac rags, and
|> bear looking at.
|> 
|> Disclaimer:  Just a satisfied end-user of the Bernoulli drive.
|> -- 
|>   | Bob Rashid (614) 292-3071 |   Rashid.1@osu.edu |
|>   | College of Dentistry      |   305 W. 12th Ave. |
|>   | The Ohio State University | Columbus, OH 43210 |


Most of you are missing the point of the original posting.  the mass storage is only one small
issue. the options are this.

For those of us with a Plus or other non FDHD machine we can
1) upgrade to an LC or some such thing (but the temptation is to go to at least a Ci)
2) purchase an external FDHD drive (to be MSDOS compatable as well as to transfer data or programs from work to home) at a cost of $300 yech.
3) purchase a floptical at (latest price $339) which gives you a FDHD compatable drive and some extra storage as well.
4) buy a syquest and still not have a 1.44 drive or MSDOS compatability.
The question is then this:

Are the damn things any good or is it good money after bad (or at least old technology). 
and ANYONE who has bought one or knows something first had should reply before there are a lot of people in a bad way.
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Distribution: world
From: Cliff_Stoll@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:14:35 PST
Subject: Re: IIsi sound problem

Summarizing a long string:
 - The Mac IIsi has an intermittant internal speaker.  Often it will play loud
sounds, but not soft ones.  

 - YOu can get around this by occasionally cranking up your speaker volume to
max, then turning it lower.  The speaker will work for a while.  There's a DA
to do this for you.

 - Another workaround:  use an external speaker, plugged into the rear panel
jack.

 - Internally, the reason for the problem is corrosion on the connector
between the speaker and the PC board.  Bill Trent points out that it's
Fretting corrosion, essentially oxidation of the contact points.  


I've tried four things.  

1) cleaning the contacts.  This worked for about 3 weeks.

2) Contact cleaner/lubricant.  This worked for a month or two.

3) Silver solder.  Old Tektronix vacuum tube oscilloscopes have a small spool
of silver-solder inside of 'em.  I used a bit of this on the PC board, right
where the contacts are made.  The problem returned in about a month or so.  

4) Replacement of the contacts with gold.  I found a transistor with gold-plated leads -- a big power transistor with thick, stiff leads.  I clipped off the
leads, then soldered them onto the PC board.  I made sure that the leads were
soldered at the ends, but that the middle of each lead was exposed.  This way,
the contacts rub against gold, not solder.


____________________
xxxx PC Board xxxxxx|
--------------------
    ---------------       <<< solder
      \_________/         <<<< gold plated lead
         ( )
        /   \
      _/     \________________________  <<< contact for speaker



Solution #4 has solved my problem for the past few months.  Your milage may
vary.

Cheers,  Cliff Stoll

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From: fmorgan@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: VRAM in a Duo Dock
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:41:18 GMT
Organization: Clark University

I was wondering if it is possible to put LC II VRAM into a Duo Dock.  Also 
does anyone know what resolution the DUO Dock will support on a 16" monitor?

			Thanks
			Fritz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: Re: PB 140 in PB 145 CLOTHING? FRAUD?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:55:38 GMT

In article <C1Awx0.GoE@unix.amherst.edu> hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (Harris Wulfson) writes:
>The PB 145 does not have an FPU. 
>
>--
>Harris Wulfson
>hjwulfson@unix.amherst.edu
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Well, thanks for that bit of info. However, I'm still suspicious
(just the  type I guess). One poster said that the 145 comes with 
4 megs soldered to the motherboard - makes sense - but then 
why did we get the PB with a note attached stating "due to 
parts shotage, we are shipping this PB 145 with 6 megs of 
RAM - this satisfies the order for 4 megs"??

Is there any way to ascertain what processor is inside without
opening the case (I mean the megahertz). 

Thanks

Brooks
From: srogers@.nswses.navy.mil (Steve Rogers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LCIII?
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:46:06 GMT
Organization: NSWSES, Port Hueneme, CA


Are you sure the upgrade from the LCII will be called the LCIII?
It seems that the convention is to go from "Whatever II" to
"Whatever Pro," at least for software. Anyone for LC Pro?

--
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    Any statements / opinions made here are mine, alone, not the Navy's, OK?
From: HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PowerPC/060 macs
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:48:51 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1993Jan23.100744.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>,
patlin_s@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>In article <C146u3.86x@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:
>> "Donpaul C. Stephens" <deathbird+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>>
>>>Is the dpi for WYSIWYG going to be improved?
>>
>>     Improved how? 72dpi = 72point = 1inch = WYSIWYG. How does one
>> improve on the real thing? Granted not all Apple monitors actually
>> display at "exactly" 72dpi but all of them are designed to be as close
>> as possible.
>
>Why 72? Just because we use that now, I see no reason why a future standard
>could not supplant it.  Our printers are now commonly 300 dpi.  Why not
>have 300 dpi monitors that show everything at the same level of detail as it
>is printed?
>
The issue, one I'd like to see addresses about "improved WYSIWYG" is
that Apple's "one inch of screen equals one inch of output" is based
on 72dpi. This may have been chosen because of 72points=1 inch but
has no necessary relationship.

Improving the DPI for WYSIWYG, though, is very difficult. Fonts
could handle it if they were rendered from outlines, like with ATM
and TrueType. Object graphics could handle it. Ask for a 2-inch
circle and it will put down a 2-inch circle. But what of bitmaps?
Icons? Etc. They would all appear shrunken since they store a series
of a distinct number of dots only. If a 64-pixel icon is shown on a
normal Mac screen, it appears to be almost an inch in length. If
it's shown on a 120dpi monitor from Sigma, it looks much smaller.

If you improve the WYSIWYG dpi, you can't fix that problem without
redrawing all the bitmapped graphics (yikes!). Unless, that is, you
go to 144dpi. That would provide backward compatibility. (Identify
it as a first generation bitmap and draw it with clumps of 4 pixels
for every one). It would also make the Mac sharper than the 91 (I
think) dpi next. Windows WYSIWYG dpi appears to be better than 80 as
well. Of course, you'd need a 144dpi monitor, which doesn't really
exist, but ....

Mark Rogowsky
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From: jimh@laison.w8hd.org (Jim Hebert)
Organization: L'AISON - Local Area Information Server Open Network
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:10:23 EDT
Subject: Re: external HD case

karl, kvj@triple-i.com, asks:
 
 > I'd like to hook up the 40 MB drive again in 
  > an external case (or is there a way to put it 
  > inside?). Does anyone know of a good source 
  > for the cases and how much they cost?         

I just received a case zero-foot-print style external case from
   CasaBlanca Works, Inc.
   148 Bon Air Center
   Greenbrae, CA 94904
   415-461-2227

CasaBlanca Works is better known for their drive formatting software utility,
Drive7. They include a limited version, Drive7-Lite, with the case. With the
purchase of a case, you may purchase the full version at a discount price. 
 
The case is a nice one. I liked the fact that the SCSI cable is properly wired in
the "horse shoe" fashion and not in the "stub" style frequently seen. The case
includes two extra AC outlets, a fan, a power supply, a power cable harness,
AC power cord, and a SCSI ID switch. A power LED and drive activity LED are
also included. The case is all metal.
 
The case arrived without *any* supporting documentation. If you are not
familiar with wiring and (physical) mounting of drives, you get *NO*
hand-holding instructions to guide you. No drive mounting hardware was
supplied. 
 
They have four styles of internal/external hardware available. The Zero-Foot
Print case costs $85, and cheaper in quantity.
 
I opted to get the full-version of Drive7 at time of purchase. This turned out
well because the "lite" version was unable to recognize the drive I was trying
to re-format, a Maxtor LXT-213-SY that began life inside a Sun SPARC-IPC and
was initial formatted under the Sun O/S. The Drive7 version was able to handle
the drive and reformat it for the Mac OS. The full version in $40 extra.
 
I have no connection with CasaBlanca Works. I noticed their small display ad
in the back of MacWeek and bought a case, my first purchase from them.

Best regards,

jim

_____________________________________________________________________________
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jimh@laison.w8hd.org                Tel: 313/647-2634  Beverly Hills, Michigan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kemper@informatik.uni-kl.de (Michael Kemper [RHRK])
Subject: Re: SilverLining or HardDiskTool Kit? Opinions sought
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:48:47 GMT

I think one of the most important criteria for choosing a hard disk formatter is speed.
I tried both formatters on my new Quantum 240 LPS an found that hard disk toolkit is a lot
faster than Silverlining (I had Silverlining 5.31/14 and HDT 1.2 Personal Edition)
Formatting and partitioning is easy with both of them.

Michael
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From: vida@crsa.bu.edu (Vida Jakabhazy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Lowest Educational Discount - Need Info
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:37:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University Center for Remote Sensing


Not too long ago someone taking a survey of the best educational
discounts and why they varied geographically.  I must have missed
the final summary that was promised.  Last I heard was Iowa had
the lowest prices.  I'm looking to buy a IIci and am interested
in how the price BU is asking compares (probably poorly knowing 
BU).  Could someone either post the results, or let me know 
which universities are selling the iici cheaply?

Thanks,
Vida Jakabhazy
vida@crsa.bu.edu
From: kilgore+@pitt.edu (Ronald G Mackley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: "Soft Power" for a Classic II
Summary: How do you make a Classic II soft power on/off
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:55:17 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	I seem to recall (although I may be mistaken), there was a way to
rig the SE and/or SE/30 so as to make them power on a the touch of the 
power switch on the keyboard.  

	If my memory is correct and this can be done, was Apple kind enough
to include this sort of functionality into the Classic II?  I believe this
involved moving a jumper or cutting a resistor or some other waranty-voiding
action.  If anyone knows how to do this will you be so kind as to tell me
how.

Thanks,
--RGM

--------
Ron Mackley
User Confuser, University of Pittsburgh
kilgore+@pitt.edu

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From: cris@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Christopher Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LARRY PINA'S "Macintosh Repair and Upgrade Secrets"
Date: 22 Jan 1993 02:40:53 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gollum.cm.deakin.oz.au

Is there a LARRY PINA'S "Macintosh Repair and Upgrade Secrets" 2nd edition
available? I heard there was such a book. If so, can you tell me the differences
between the first edition and Second.

Reason I ask is, that the First Edition is only available in Australia.

Please Email Me today If poss, then I can order before the weekend.

Chris



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From: cokin@phakt.usc.edu (Darren Cokin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Linking Mac and HP48SX (Whoops!  I mean 8-pin mini-din)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 13:34:09 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


Upon exmanining my ports I now realize there are only 8 pins.  There must be
a misprint in the HP brochure, which says you need an "open serial post (9-pin
mini-din)."

Also, I kinda found what I was looking for, but I still need help.
I found this is a file about Capnet:

MINI DIN - 8 (female looking at the rear of the Mac)
  
            -------   INSIDE NOTCH ("N")
          (    N    )
        (  O   O   O  )
       (   8   7   6   )
       (  O     O   O  )
        ( 5     4   3 )
      2  (   O   O   )  1
            --------
               N      OUTSIDE NOTCH

RCV(-)   5
RCV(+)   8
TX(-)    3
TX(+)    6
GRND     4


So at least I know where the ground goes, and have a 50-50 shot of getting the
TX right, but that's still 40 combinations to try.  So I still need some help.
Thanks.


                                                          Darren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB 180 and Ethernet Support
From: dalaw@austerlitz.iupui.edu (Dale Law)
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:24:36 -0500
Reply-To: dalaw@austerlitz.iupui.edu (Dale Law)
Distribution: world

In article <1k3qjeINNdhf@shelley.u.washington.edu>  writes:
> Does anyone know of an Ethernet card for the PB 180?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> bill burrows
> burrows@u.washington.edu
> University of Washington, Seattle WA
I don't believe there is an internal Ethernet card for the PowerBooks, but  
an external box that runs off the SCSI port like the DaynaPORT SCSI/Link  
works fine. You can get one that has all three (thick, thin, and 10BASE T)  
connectors on it. Dayna's numbers are (801) 531-0600 or fax (801)  
359-9135.
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