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From:         "M. Blitz" <BSMJJ@CUNYVM.BITNET>
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              25 Jul 1992 11:33:00 EDT from <Jeffrey_S_BLOOMBERG@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>

>>re: raising $$ for the study of hired-education.... most major cities, and a
# of small (tho still major) ones have some kind of library or research center
specifically devoted to private and public funding/grant sources. In addition,
most colleges and universities have offices of institutional research and
some kind of officer of special programs etc.  I have a booklet, prepared by
my inst. (john jay college, CUNY), that features approx. 50 pages of granters
and funders. My guess is that most institutions would have something like this
available although our own grants-expert is truly a go-getter, I know.  I will
try to post more specific info as soon as can.


Michael Blitz
John Jay College of Criminal Justice, CUNY
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Subject:      Substitutes for dissertation requirement
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We are engaged in a continuing study of the dissertation requirement. Any
information on nontraditional substitutes for the dissertation requirement
for the doctoral program would be much appreciated.
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Subject:      for materials

There are books that purport to provide good information, tips and techniques
in effective grant applications.  Have a look in the Subject Guide to Books
In Print - at your local bookstore or library.
                                                Bernard Katz, U of Guelph
                                                              Guelph, Ontario
                                                              Canada
                                                bkatz@cosy.uoguelph.ca
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From:         "J.VAn Patten" <JVANPATT@UAFSYSB.BITNET>
Subject:      Community College Financing
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We are engaged in a study of community college financing - any information
about new research in the field would be much appreciated.
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>I have nothing to offer but support if you decide to create a new
>discussion group and/or exchange of information on the noble art of
>raising money for new projects. Please keep me informed of
>developments - perhaps there is room for some reserach on the subject
>- but who would fund it?
>John Lidstone
>QUT, Kelvin Grove
>Brisbane, Australia.
>e-mail: j.lidstone@qut.edu.au


Are you aware of the list called Fundlist, for the discussion of fundraising
issues in higher education?

>       Jeff Bloomberg
        University of Maryland at College Park
        U.S.A.
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From:         Glenn James <JAMESG@BAYLOR.BITNET>
Subject:      Presidential Search
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I am seeking materials about the process of searching for a
college president.  Any resources that would assist a presidential
search committee are of interest.  Please respond directly to me;
of course, I will be glad to post a summary to ASHE-L.
Thanks for sharing.

Glenn

Glenn W. James
Baylor University
jamesg@baylor
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Reply-To:     Arnold Schick <SCHICK@DMRHRZ11.BITNET>
From:         Arnold Schick <SCHICK@DMRHRZ11.BITNET>
Subject:      calculations within a %MACRO

Hallo ALL,

within a %MACRO I have to calculate one value for a variable, which
to find in cases of _N_ = 1,2,3 (see below). Now, I produce test data
for this %MACRO and the %MACRO will work only for one sort of data.

With the first sort of data creates it not an ANFANG data set and for the
second sort is it created. I want to locate the conditions for the
unproducing and can't find it (pherhaps too long looked to ...). Yes I
know, the missings, but the third (_N_=3) should be given out to ANFANG
in both situations.

The platform and/or version of SAS is not the cause.

Has everyone an idea, why it runs on this different ways?  Many Thanks.


Arnold Schick  University of Marburg/Germany BITNET: SCHICK@DMRHRZ11
                                     Internet: Schick@ibm.hrz.uni-marburg.DE

Here is the reduced %MACRO:


%macro kif3d (data,x,y,z);
  /* ..... */

  data _NULL_ ;
    set &data;
    &y = fuzz(&y);
    if _N_ = 1 then call symput('y_1',&y);
    if _N_ = 2 then call symput('y_2',&y);
    if _N_ = 3 then do; call symput('y_3',&y); stop; end;
  run;

  data anfang(keep= &x dz_start);
     set &data;
     &y = fuzz(&y);
     &z = fuzz(&z);
     y1 = lag(&y);
     z1 = lag(&z);
     if (&y=&y_2) or (&y=&y_3) then do;
            dz   = (&z - z1)/(&y - y1);
            dz_b = lag(dz);
            if &y=&y_3 then do;
               dz_start = 2*dz_b - dz;
               output anfang;
            end;
     end;
  run;

  /*....*/
%mend kif3d;

data eins;
  do x=-8*atan(1) to 8*atan(1) by 0.8 ;
     do y=-8*atan(1) to 8*atan(1) by 0.8 ;
        z=sin(sqrt(x*x + y*y));
        output;
     end;
  end;
run;

%kif3d (eins, x, y, z);

proc print data=anfang; run;

data eins;
  do x=-5 to 8*atan(1) by 0.8 ;
     do y=-5 to 8*atan(1) by 0.8 ;
        z=sin(sqrt(x*x + y*y));
        output;
     end;
  end;
run;

%kif3d (eins, x, y, z);

proc print data=anfang; run;
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:06:02 EDT
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Subject:      Ubar method in the discriminant analysis

Does anyone know how to get the Ubar estimates, Lachenbruch and Mickey(1968),
and Morrison(1990, p.280) proposed, by using SAS(discrim) procedure?
Thank you for your help in advance.

Kuo-chang Wang
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internet: wangkc@lp.musc.edu
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From:         lipeng <GOVE033@TWNMOE10.BITNET>
Subject:      joining SAS club

Hi,
I got your club information from my friend Daisy and I am interested
in being a member of your esteem club.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:56:04 CDT
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From:         "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Re: calculations within a %MACRO
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              92 3:10 pm

Arnold Schick writes:
>
> Hallo ALL,
>
> within a %MACRO I have to calculate one value for a variable, which
> to find in cases of _N_ = 1,2,3 (see below). Now, I produce test data
> for this %MACRO and the %MACRO will work only for one sort of data.
>
> With the first sort of data creates it not an ANFANG data set and for the
> second sort is it created. I want to locate the conditions for the
> unproducing and can't find it (pherhaps too long looked to ...). Yes I
> know, the missings, but the third (_N_=3) should be given out to ANFANG
> in both situations.
>
> The platform and/or version of SAS is not the cause.
>
> Has everyone an idea, why it runs on this different ways?  Many Thanks.
>
>
> Arnold Schick  University of Marburg/Germany BITNET: SCHICK@DMRHRZ11
>                                      Internet: Schick@ibm.hrz.uni-marburg.DE
>
> Here is the reduced %MACRO:
>
>
> %macro kif3d (data,x,y,z);
>   /* ..... */
>
>   data _NULL_ ;
>     set &data;
>     &y = fuzz(&y);
>     if _N_ = 1 then call symput('y_1',&y);
>     if _N_ = 2 then call symput('y_2',&y);
>     if _N_ = 3 then do; call symput('y_3',&y); stop; end;
>   run;
>
>   data anfang(keep= &x dz_start);
>      set &data;
>      &y = fuzz(&y);
>      &z = fuzz(&z);
>      y1 = lag(&y);
>      z1 = lag(&z);
>      if (&y=&y_2) or (&y=&y_3) then do;
>             dz   = (&z - z1)/(&y - y1);
>             dz_b = lag(dz);
>             if &y=&y_3 then do;
>                dz_start = 2*dz_b - dz;
>                output anfang;
>             end;
>      end;
>   run;
>
>   /*....*/
> %mend kif3d;
>
> < invocation code deleted >
>
Arnold,

I don't quite know what this macro does but I think I see the problem.
In your second data step you are referencing Y_2 and y_3 via macro
expansion. The problem is that the expansion occures before either data
step executes and so their values are still null.

Try this:

 data anfang(keep= &x dz_start);
    set &data;
    &y = fuzz(&y);
    &z = fuzz(&z);
    y1 = lag(&y);
    z1 = lag(&z);
    y_1 = input( symget('y_1'), best. );
    y_2 = input( symget('y_2'), best. );
    y_3 = input( symget('y_3'), best. );
    if (&y=y_2) or (&y=y_3) then do;
           dz   = (&z - z1)/(&y - y1);
           dz_b = lag(dz);
           if &y=y_3 then do;
              dz_start = 2*dz_b - dz;
              output anfang;
           end;
    end;

I hope something like this dows the trick for you.

Bob Snyder, Texas Instruments, Sherman, TX
 run;
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:41:55 CDT
Reply-To:     Todd Shook <DPTS@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
From:         Todd Shook <DPTS@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Set Statement

   SAS-L,

      I need to know if there is away  with the 'SET Statement' that

I can reference a dataset name without including the  member types.  Let

me explain my problem.  I have a sas dataset with 1 to 16 members in it.

I never know exactly how many members are in the dataset at a time

(ie. //batch111    dd  dsn=ssg.sas.file
                                    members=memb01, memb02, mem08 ....

In my batch SAS program (ver 6.06) I have the following code.

              Data applic;
                   Set batch111.?????;   This is where I don't want to
                                         have to put the member name in.
                                         I want to select them all.

I would value any help at all.


                         Thanks, Todd Shook





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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:12:00 PDT
Reply-To:     okoks@PC.IBT.DK
From:         okoks@PC.IBT.DK
Subject:      Format on datasets

Dear SAS-lers,

I have a dataset with the following format:

      Year Jan Feb Mar . . . Nov Dec
      1960  1   2   3         4   5
      1961  6   7   8         9   0
       .    .   .   .         .   .
       .    .   .   .         .   .
      1990  1   2   3         4   5


I need to make a graph of this dataset (price*year). Do I have to make a new
dataset and chance the format to

      Year Month Price
      1960   1     1
      1960   2     2
       .     .     .

and if I do, how do I do that, or can I make my graph out of the original
dataset ??

Thanks in advance.

Karsten Strobek

Institute of Economics                              Phone: +45 33 91 21 66/377
University of Copenhagen                                  Fax: +45 33 12 00 01
Studiestraede 6                                      Internet: okoks@pc.ibt.dk
DK-1455 Copenhagen K
Denmark
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:22:00 GMT
Reply-To:     Michael Davis <0002395748@MCIMAIL.COM>
From:         Michael Davis <0002395748@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Zipcode Data Files
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John Gerlach asked if I had the telephone numbers to Geographic Data
Technology and CLARITAS/NPDC.  They are:

800-331-7881 - Geographic Data Technology
607-273-8208 - CLARITAS/NPDC

John also asked if I had a nice sample SAS program that showed how to use
zipcode data with the GPROJECT and GMAP procedures.  My preference is to
refer John and others to the sample library that SI ships with SAS/GRAPH.
Zipcode would be the ID variable in the GMAP procedure to link the response
data with the boundary data.

If you go with CLARITAS/NPDC's MAX data, you need to transform the
coordinates with a data step first.  I plan to submit a file describing
the required data step to the SAS-L archives shortly and will post an
announcement when this has been done.

Michael Davis
North Haven, Conn.
0002395748@mcimail.com
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:10:11 -0500
Reply-To:     Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
From:         Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
Subject:      RE: multiple identical id vars problem
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 CONTENT:   Response to "multiple identical id vars problem"
 SUMMARY:   Re-shaping data set with series of PROC TRANSPOSEs
 REL/PLTF:  6.04/ PC DOS
 E-ADDR:    gibes@swirl.monsanto.com
 NAME:      Kernon Gibes
 PHONE:     (708) 506-2873
 DATE/TIME: 22 July 1992, 2:11 p.m. CDT

 Ed Silverman wrote that he wanted to re-organize:

ID           CODE  TERM  DATE

002162706    292  901   900309
002162706    292  901   900403
002254401    299  891   890201
002254401    299  901   900303
002254401    276  901   900405

into (one observation per ID, multiple variables):

ID         CODE TERM DATE  CODE2 TERM2 DATE2  CODE3 TERM3 DATE3

002162706  292  901 900309 299*  901   900403
002254401  299  891 890201 299   901   900303  299** 901  900405

 (I'm assuming that 299* should be 292 and 299** should be 276??????)

 Since this is 6.04 he can't use SQL [ha ha ;-) ].  This could be done
 easily enough in a data step with arrays and LAST. processing, but
 since it's not clear that we know in advance the maximum number of
 unique ID values, I've given one approach using PROC TRANSPOSEs below.
 This doesn't give the desired order of variables and missing values
 might present problems, but I'll leave the data step approach to
 someone else!

data test;
input
ID           CODE  TERM  DATE;
cards;
002162706    292  901   900309
002162706    292  901   900403
002254401    299  891   890201
002254401    299  901   900303
002254401    276  901   900405
;
run;

proc sort data=test;
by id;
run;

proc transpose data=test out=long1 prefix=code;
by id;
var code;
run;

proc transpose data=test out=long2 prefix=term;
by id;
var term;
run;

proc transpose data=test out=long3 prefix=date;
by id;
var date;
run;

data final;
merge long1 long2 long3;
by id;
run;
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From: lbertoli@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lawrence E Bertolini)
Subject: Re: Comma delimited output file
Summary: another consideration: missing values vs blanks
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:07:42 GMT

I second the motion for a DELIM= option for the FILE stmt.

One other consideration: a need to distinguish between "missing" and "blank"
for character vars.  I use SAS to create comma delimited files ready for
Sybase's bulk copy program; if a character var is missing, and the Sybase
column allows nulls, I need to write just the delimiter, without a space.
If the Sybase column does not allow nulls, I need to write a blank, then the
delimiter.  (I use a macro & it works fine; would rather use DELIM=)  

I don't know if this capability should be part of DELIM= or a new
character format; nor do I know how many other packages need to 
distinguish "missing" from "blank".
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Reply-To:     Steve Marcus <SCM@HARVARDA.BITNET>
From:         Steve Marcus <SCM@HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject:      missing data analysis

has anybody out there had any experience doing analysis on missing data?

our dataset will have the following characteristics:

1) multiple observations per subject
2) subjects nested within a large number of groups
3) some variables measured on the subjects some measured on the groups
   (a group would be something like a census tract)

data are missing when:

1) a subject lacks one or more variable measurements
2) a group is lacking the required number of subjects
3) a group is lacking one or more variable measurements

has anyone used or developed routines that will estimate the missing
values (perhaps EM algorithm). BMDP has some routines for missing data
but don't seem to handle all our types of missingness.

any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.

thanks
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From:         "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Graphical Output to WordPerfect or PageMaker
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              92 6:36 am

>
> I am running SAS Release 6.07.02 in the Silicon Graphics with IRIX Release
> 4.0.3 System V..
>
> I have generated the graphical stream file from the SAS/GRAPH. But I can't
> import the graphical stream file to WordPerfect or PageMaker. I have
> generated in different format before, e.g the encapsulated Postscript
> file, CGM, CGMWP, PS. But these files still can't be imported to the word
> processor. Does anybody know the solution? Thanks for your kind attention.
>
> /@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@\
> |                                                                          |
> |  Emil Mok, Computer Service Centre, The Chinese University of Hong Kong  |
> |		   Internet : b128781@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk                   |
> |                                                                          |
> |  		   Everything I do, I do it for you.                       |
> |                                                                          |
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>
Emil,

I have had success using the CGM format to input graphics into Charisma
( Micrografx ) and then into Word Perfect. Also, if your picture is suitable
you can go to a GSF in HPGL format (HP Plotter) and import that directly
into Word Perfect.

Good luck,

Bob Snyder, Texas Instruments, Sherman, TX.
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From:         "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Re: supressing macro in log
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              "HAKOMAKI%UMINN1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Jul 27, 92 2:09 pm

>
> How do you supress as much of the log as possible when running a macro?
>
> We are running SAS 6.06 on CMS, VMS and 6.07 on Unix.
>
> Sue Hakomaki
> SAS Consultant - Univ. of Minnesota
>
Hello Sue,

Page 130 of the "SAS Companion for the UNIX Environment..." list a number
of options for controlling the contents of the SAS log. Some must go on the
command line or in a config.sas file. Others can be used in an Options
statement. Chapter 5 in the SAS Lancuage Reference also deals with this topic.

Some of the options are:

nofullstimer  nonotes  nosource  nosource2  nostimer

Hope I helped,

Bob Snyder, Texas Instruments, Sherman TX.
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Subject:      Update on TSNEWS-L

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  Hi:

  Theres been alot of discussion about TSNEWS-L and to John Simms
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 >
 > The filetype ANNOUNCE gives you technical announcements.  The
 > filetype PALERT is for problem alert letters.  You must give the
 > first 3 letters of the type of PALERT you want; you cannot
 > request * PALERT.  You will receive a single mail message
 > confirming your AFD requests.
 >
 > I hope this is a complete description.  Any corrections or
 > additions should be sent to the list for the benefit of all.
 >     toddddddddddd

 PS -- John said if you're going to send AFD request, you do want
 specify password as Todd shows.
 PSS -- Kernon Gibes handy tip:  send e-mail to LISTSERV@VM.SAS.COM
 with message AFD LIST to check your AFDs status.
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU