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From: jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (KING OF THE BEACH)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Question about teenaged character...
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:43:51 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel) writes:

>     That was Will Wheaton, the guy who plays Wesley Krusher
>on Star Trek (Next Generation).  I should say DID play WK.  That
>horrible character was written out of that horrible show.
>Not to be nitpicking, BUT I think the actual quote was "Have you
>ever killed a man, junior?"  The word junior makes a bit of a
>difference - dontchya think?  I agree, that scene was quite hilarious.

>-Mark

since he didn't nitpick, i won't either....  :)

i believe the actual quote was:  "Hey Kramer dude, have you ever killed a
man?".
Then Kramer says:  "What do you think, Junior?  These hands...."

jay
From: jes@downey.dev.macsch.com (John Schiermeier)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Kramer's name
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:50:24 GMT
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So did everybody see the new twist on an old subject last
night?  The cover of the script that the police found on
the person (oops, wouldn't want to be writing tickets for
senior citizens with forged bus passes) of the dead body
was as follows:

          ------------------------
          |       The Keys       |
          |   A Movie Treatment  |
           ------                |
                  \ by           |
                   \ Kramer      |
                    |            |
                    --------------

(Torn piece of paper, you get the idea.)  So now you can
see the mind games that the NBC writers are playing, and
can cast your votes for his complete name.

John
From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Kramer's first name revealed??
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug17.213952.10283@cabezon.uucp>, markco@cabezon.uucp (Mark Collins) writes...
>Am I the only one who noticed that in the first (post-olympic) 
>epsiode the security guard at the gate yelled 'hello' to the 
>driver of the convertible that crashed through the barricade 
>without stopping? 
>I assumed this was Kramer (couldn't see the driver even on 
>video replay)  based on the previous scene (can't remember 
>exactly the tie-in now). Anyway the guard said "Hello, 
>Michael". Is this a reference to Kramer's first name? 

i think:
the security guard wasn't an actor but a real security guard and they 
were using the real gate to the studios, and the guy
flubbed and called him by his real name (michael richards, right?) and 
the editors didn't catch it. 

IMHO.
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From: sharma@euler.Warren.MENTORG.COM (Sharma Kunapalli)
Subject: Re: part II show
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corp. - IC Group
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:01:11 GMT


In article Message-ID: <92Aug18.221702.28628@acs.ucalgary.ca>
kjgriffi@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kevin John Griffith) writes:

>Saw the second part of the season opener.  In my opinion, it was
>really good ( especially compared to the weak first part ).
>without giving anything away, the best scenes involves jerry's
>911 call, and the police car ride.

I don't get it. How could you watch it?

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From: df2tg2n@ties.bell-atl.com (Steve Rosen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:20:34 GMT
Reply-To: df2tg2n@shoes.bell-atl.com
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Organization: Bell Atlantic - Phila, PA

In article <1992Aug20.124124.14203@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim) writes:
|> 
|> I never noticed it before last night's episode, but has there always been a 
|> laugh track for scenes not filmed in front of the studio audience?? (Personally,
|> I hate 'em.)  
|> 
|> I loved the scene when George and Jerry are in the "black and white", acting 
|> like two little kids.
|> 
|> FYI - the guy the cops cuffed in the 519 (who turned out to be the "Smog 
|> Strangler") is Ron Howard's brother.  (Oooh, I gotta get a life!)
|> --

I think the show is much funnier situated in NY.  I was glad to see them
back in the apartment at the end of the show.  I had trouble staying
focused on the LA scenes - pretty boring if you ask me, so it's no wonder
many people are disappointed.  The show seems to work best when all the
characters (including Elaine) interact together throughout an episode.

Not to digress too much, but...

Yea, Clint Howard I think is his name.  I feel sorry for that guy, if you
remember he was the little kid/star on "Gentle Ben" many years ago.  I have
to keep reminding myself of that whenever he pops up on some show.

Talk about type-cast, that guy gets only "ugly" roles on TV.  When they
want to cast some ugly, villianous character, that's who they pick - and
he's pretty ugly looking - on "Gentle Ben" he was cute.  He also appears (I
think it's him) on some music video for the Ramones ('I Want to Be
Sedated', maybe?).  They evidentally wanted to show a bunch of
crude/dirty/rough punkish looking kids and there he is (dancing yet!).  Can
somebody confirm that, since there are no credits in the video?

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From: jill@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Jill Hollifield)
Subject: Re: s
Organization: Coordinating Centers For Biometric Research, University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:15:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.204058.8249@news2.cis.umn.edu> sue@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Sue Meger) writes:
>Help.  This is just mostly a test. But I like Kramer, I realy like him and I have
>have not yet seen y too much of him, eh?
>eywords: 

Allright, SUE!!  I agree, he's a sexy dude with great tan lines!
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From: bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott)
Subject: Jerry on Today, today
Summary: "Where are we?" "Earth." 
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 19:18:10 GMT

So, did everyone see Jerry on this morning's "Today" show?  They had a 5 or
6 minute interview discussing various things - being stiffed at the Emmies
(Emmys doesn't seem right to me), having standup as part of the show, how
nobody at NBC knows where they are, and the future plotline of Jerry going
to L.A. to be on Carson (George comes along for the free hotel room) and
getting discovered by NBC. 


*** SPOILER AHEAD ***  (only if you read this in the next few hours, since
the show's on tonight, but what the hey)


Once they get to L.A. they apparently have to help Kramer because he's been
arrested as the "Smog Strangler" (or something), a serial killer.  heh. 

They also showed a clip from tonight's episode, where George and Jerry are
on a payphone talking to the friendly folks at 911.  George asks a passer-by
where they are and the guy says "Earth" and keeps walking.  Funny stuff.

He looked kinda sleepy but then so did I at that hour.  

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From: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Airport security scene
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:08:44 GMT
Reply-To: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Reminds me of the airport scene in the "Spinal Tap" movie, when the character
played by Harry Shearer had to take the aluminum-wrapped cucumber out of his
pants because it kept setting off the alarm...



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From: sharma@euler.Warren.MENTORG.COM (Sharma Kunapalli)
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corp. - IC Group
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:43:08 GMT

In article Message-ID: <17074@ulysses.att.com>
tom@ulysses.att.com (Tom Smith) writes:

>I've been lurking, waiting to see other's reactions to the
>season opener of 8/12/92.  I was disappointed with this episode,
>in much the same way I was with last season's finale.
>
>The problem: too much plot.
>
>I don't watch Seinfeld for plot, but for characters and dialogue.
>And in this episode, those suffered from an overabundance of
>storyline.  Wacky, certainly.  But detrimental to the strengths
>of the show.
>
>Let's get them back to NYC, in the coffeeshop, as soon as possible.
>
>Tom Smith.
>tom@ulysses.att.com

Me too. May be I was expecting too much. I agree with
you that the show probably feels better when they are in 
NYC.

Sharma


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From: sue@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Sue Meger)
Subject: s
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:40:58 GMT

Help.  This is just mostly a test. But I like Kramer, I realy like him and I have
have not yet seen y too much of him, eh?
eywords:
From: matthews@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Thomas W. Matthews)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Jerry's Jock
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:36:36 GMT
Organization: Division of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, UC Davis

I hope I'm not duplicating another posting (I haven't had time to read them all since
returning from vacation).  While watching the season opener, I noticed that when Jerry
was "scanned" by the hand-held metal detector at the airport, the pitch of the
beep raised as the detector passed by Jerry's crotch.  This brief scene was also 
included in the recap at the start of the opener part two.  If it's meant as a
stand-alone joke, I don't get it.  Anyone else notice this?  Any explanation?

Tom Matthews
From: tim@TIS.COM (Timothy Samples)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Season premier part 2!
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:12:48 GMT
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.

FIRST POST TO THIS NEWSGROUP!!

When George and Jerry got into the police car, George cracks a joke by asking
Jerry to crack the window in the back seat of the squad car (which most of us
know that you can't roll down the window).  Anyway, when the car screeches up
in front of Kramer's apartment the two police officers run out of the car 
leaving George, Jerry and that lunatic in the back.  Jerry reaches his hand out
the back window and opens the door.  I wonder if this is just something that
was overlooked or was it done purposely or does anyone really care!!!

Kramer killed me last night when he was getting drilled by the detective, and
started wimpering!

And when Jerry throws his keys to Kramer on the way out, then returns and throwshis keys at Jerry!  God, this show is well written

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From: godfrey@cs.washington.edu (Garr Godfrey)
Subject: Re: Kramer's first name revealed??
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 05:49:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.213952.10283@cabezon.uucp> markco@cabezon.uucp (Mark Collins) writes:
...
>I assumed this was Kramer (couldn't see the driver even on 
>video replay)  based on the previous scene (can't remember 
>exactly the tie-in now). Anyway the guard said "Hello, 
>Michael". Is this a reference to Kramer's first name? 
>

It was Kramers car, as he is seen pulling away in it later when he drops
a pile of photographs of himself.  However, I do not remember the 
guard saying anything other than "Hey!"

-Garr
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From: salomone@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (John ($al) Salomone)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Got it on tape
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:56:58 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

I have this weeks episode on tape and I am going to scrutinize it tonight.
I am glad I read all the postings today.  Now I really know what to look
for.

Someone asked why did the news reporters say "...a man known only as Kramer..."?
Probably because they had done a few interviews with people that had known
Kramer, like the lady from his apartment place who just called him Kramer just
like everyone else, and that's all they have figured out.

It does seem like they would have said that his last name was Kramer because
that is what it looked like on his "treatment."

Just some random thoughts.

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From: kjgriffi@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kevin John Griffith)
Subject: part II show
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 22:17:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

Saw the second part of the season opener.  In my opinion, it was
really good ( especially compared to the weak first part ).
without giving anything away, the best scenes involves jerry's
911 call, and the police car ride.

kevin griffith
   kjgriffi@acs.ucalgary.ca

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From: mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel)
Subject: Re: playing detective
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:51:01 GMT

>George should not have ordered the kosher meal.
>
>Most kosher airline meals are virtually inedible. Even though I'm
>kosher I wind up ordering the vegetarian meals which are usually at
>least edible.

     The best I've gotten out of ANY meal on a domestic flight
is one which is digestible.  Last time I just asked for 5 bags
of peanuts.  They didn't think that was funny.  I had to explain
to the attendant that I wasn't joking.

-Mark
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From: adams@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU (Allen Adams)
Subject: Re: Where's Elaine? (was Re: What IS with Jerry?)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: na
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:21:21 GMT

jjcox@oregon.uoregon.edu (Joshua Cox) writes:

>Elaine is my favorite character!  Where was she for the season opener?!  No wonder it was a let-down!

I read that she is pregnant and will return after the first few episodes.
Maybe that is why the storyline is Kramer to LA and the 'boys' follow;
She doesn't have to be involved.



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From: sharma@euler.Warren.MENTORG.COM (Sharma Kunapalli)
Subject: Re: Seinfeld's pink triangle
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corp. - IC Group
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:00:45 GMT

In article Message-ID: <1992Aug17.084049.12335@wixer.cactus.org>
guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery) writes:

>>    In article <1992Aug14.195203.19257@sei.cmu.edu> bjz@sei.cmu.edu 
>>	(Barbara Zayas) writes:
>>    >If this has been discussed before, my apologies.
>>    >
>>    >Is there any significance to the inverted pink triangle that
>>    >appears in the Seinfeld logo?  I'm curious as to whether it's
>>    >a statement in support of gay/lesbian/bisexual groups.

>Upside down pink triangle? It must mean that the show is against of
>gay/lesbian/bisexual groups. :)
>
>Remote control goof up caused me to record about 20 seconds of The
>Weather Channel over last Wednesday's episode :( At least i didn't
>reocrd over the Corbin Bernson part. I do think he was playing the
>Seinfeld theme song with his hands.

I think it stands for the dot on the 'i' in Seinfeld.
And since the triangle points to 'i', it emphasizes
that the show is about himself.

Well..... thats my theory.

Sharma
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From: bevis@ais.org (Jeremy Lechtzin)
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Organization: the ptolemaic terrascope
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:28:30 GMT

The cop's hand covered up the spot where Kramer's first name would be.  And
there was some sort of clever way to not reveal the first name when Jerry
was talking on the phone in the hotel room, asking around about Kramer.
Although I can't seem to remember what that clever way was...I'll have to go
back and watch it.
  Anyways, we know Kramer has a first name.  Or assume.  After all, his
mom's name is Babs Kramer.  Remember the episode where Kramer dresses up
like the professor and Elaine poses as the jacket guy's daughter, so they can
steal back the slick jacket?  The landlord goes on and on about this loose
woman, Babs Kramer.  So naturally, Kramer, defending his mom's honor,
attacks the guy.  Great episode.
From: ingraffi@tramp.Colorado.EDU (INGRAFFIA EDMOND J)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:38:47 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


Pretty funny episode...seemed a little "overacted", especially on
George's part...he was extra-explanatory and loser-hyper.

No Elaine...hmmm....she must be a bit large right now :^)

I think Part II will be a bit funnier, since it'll focus on Kramer
and his predicament...that "audition" sequence knocked me off the couch!!

"On second thought, I'll take the tuck..."


Yangety
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From: mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel)
Subject: Re: Question about teenaged character...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:37:50 GMT

In article <BtC8x4.JBx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (KING OF TH
E BEACH) writes:
>mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel) writes:
>>Not to be nitpicking, BUT I think the actual quote was "Have you
>>ever killed a man, junior?"  The word junior makes a bit of a
>>difference - dontchya think?  I agree, that scene was quite hilarious.
>
>since he didn't nitpick, i won't either....  :)
>
>i believe the actual quote was:  "Hey Kramer dude, have you ever killed a
>man?".
>Then Kramer says:  "What do you think, Junior?  These hands...."

Exactly!  Um, I didn't tape it.  There was pressure on me at work.
The ball took a bad hop.  The sun was in my eyes. ...

Actually, is it proper to capitalize an anonymous junior.  Maybe if
you don't have a last name it's okay.  Or maybe if your first and
last names are the same, or , or , ... What were we talking about?

-Mark
From: lape@cs.utk.edu (Bryon S. Lape)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: New episode, Watch for Nilan, Bard and Lucky
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:17:39 GMT
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From: tim@vestek.com (Tim McGinnis)
Subject: Re: jerry's theme
Organization: Vestek Systems
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 00:17:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.210859.17349@leland.Stanford.EDU> soup@leland.Stanford.EDU (young-sup lee) writes:


YOUNG-STUFF, you are losing it..... check into the nearest clinic, in your
case Stanford-Med for the Seinfeld Challenged.



tim
tim@vestek.com


>am i losing my mind or did anyone else notice that corbin bersen (sp?)
>was "tapping" out the theme to seinfeld (the show) in the hallway with
>george.  when i say "tapping" i mean that annoying trick where one 
>simultaneously snaps a finger while pounding the other fist (ala 3
>stooges?) AND corbin was also making the tongue flicking noise for
>the other part of jerry's theme.
>
>ys
>
>ps.  i'm not a psych major but wouldn't an ANAL person NOT tell others
>about all these "discoveries"???
>
>pps.  why didn't the tv newscaster say, "a man with a last name kramer"
>instead of "a man known only as kramer"???
>
>i have more stuff, but i'm keeping it to myself...
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From: sue@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Sue Meger)
Subject: Re: Question about teenaged character...
Organization: Coordinating Centers For Biometric Research, University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:14:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.132938.3883@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel) writes:
>
>In article <12649@icarus> banner@icarus ( banner@semi.mitel.com ) writes:
>>Who was the guy who played the teenaged hippy (?) that Kramer met in
>>the van an the way to CA in the season opener. The same guy who was
>>telling the cops "And then Kramer said 'Have you ever killed a man?!'"
>>in the Part 2.
>>
>>The character looked awfully familiar...
>
>     That was Will Wheaton, the guy who plays Wesley Krusher
>on Star Trek (Next Generation).  I should say DID play WK.  That
>horrible character was written out of that horrible show.
>Not to be nitpicking, BUT I think the actual quote was "Have you
>ever killed a man, junior?"  The word junior makes a bit of a
>difference - dontchya think?  I agree, that scene was quite hilarious.
>
>-Mark

D.......was NOT

D
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From: CARIAN@auvm.american.edu (RABBI CHARLES ARIAN)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: playing detective
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:22:47 GMT
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

George should not have ordered the kosher meal.

Most kosher airline meals are virtually inedible. Even though I'm
kosher I wind up ordering the vegetarian meals which are usually at
least edible.
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From: kdontas@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Chris Eccleston)
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:19:50 GMT

	On the season premiere, didya notice the cover to
Kramer's script which was found on the dead girl's body ?
	It was torn, but it had 'Kramer' typed on it as if it
was a last name.
	Hmmm...

	CAGE

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