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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.ucx
Subject: Re: UCX SMTP problems
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:56:40 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Dec22.101912.2603@dct.ac.uk>, ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) writes:
> BTW, what's the command that turns on translation of Internet number
> to Internet name in commands such as show users? I'm sure I saw it
> but have forgotten now. 

  $ UCX SET SERVICE FTP/LOG=NOADDRESS

> Did this product undergo *any* field testing I wonder? I find it impossible
> to believe it did (at least in shipped form).

  My belief is that development was progressing well, but one day management
told the developers "we're shipping this tomorrow" and the resulting panic
caused the kit to be a bit incomplete and buggy.

  There are patches available from CSC for FTP, SNMP, SMTP, LPR, and some
other things. With the patches it's a lot better.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
From: wewila@iwsd01.itwol.bhp.com.au (Alan Wilkie)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.ucx
Subject: Relaying SMTP mail with UCX
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:30:37 +1000
Organization: BHP Information Technology

Greetings UCX users.

Has anyone had much experience with the UCX implementation of SMTP mail?
We have recently installed UCX V2.0, but the documentation on how to set
up SMTP mail is pretty useless.  Unfortunately, we only have the doco on
CD, so I don't know if the paper version is any different/better.

The specific option I'm interested in (at the moment) is "RELAY" (as in
SET CONFIG SMTP/OPTIONS=(RELAY)).  According to the two or three lines in
the doco, this option will "relay mail to other nodes using MAIL-11".
What does that mean?

I had hoped that it might allow us to use this machine as an SMTP gateway
for the remainder of our DECnet nodes which are not running TCP/IP.  Sending
mail out works fine : you get a "From" address like "USER::VAX1"@vax2.etc.etc
which is reasonable enough.  When you try to reply to such an address, it
bounces off the "vax2" node in my example and gives you an RMS record not
found error (presumably it is trying to lookup the username in the UAF file).

All help much appreciated,
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.ucx
Subject: Multi-threading vs. det/sub process TCP/IP server multiple connection h
From: daniel@hfrd.dsto.gov.au
Date: 24 Dec 92 10:04:56 CST
Organization: High Frequency Radar Division - Defence Science and Technology Organisation

Using UCX2.0 under VMS5.5-2.

When writing TCP/IP servers, is there an elegant method of having VMS sub/det
processes handle multiple server connections, a'la U**x fork/exec.

Is multi-threading the server (QIOs and ASTs) the only method?  In which case
how are Telnet (etc.) connections, that create network processes under a
different UIC, handled?

Questions, questions, and so little documentation.  The usual apolgies (FAQ,
etc.)  With thanks in advance.  Mark Daniel.
From: VANCE@TGV.COM (L. Stuart Vance)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re:  Print Redirection to Novell
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:43:44 -0800 (PST)
Organization: TGV, Incorporated
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

>I'm on a Novell LAN with a MicroVAX 3100 connected to it via Ethernet.
>We are looking into the issue of print redirection from the VMS queue to the
>Novell print queues.
>
>How can I redirect the VMS print jobs to the local LPT port so that Novell can
>take over from there and capture the job to the Novell queue?
>
>Is there a product that sits in the VAX that will redirect jobs from the VMS
>queue to the Novell queue directly? (i.e. via IPX or TCP/IP)
>
>How does TGV's MultiNet Services for Netware Users apply to me?

MultiNet Services for NetWare Users provides the server side of NetWare to PC
clients.  It provides file service and print service, as well as tunneling
IPX over IP.  We also plan to support VMS file and print client services as
well in the near future.  We can't solve your problem currently, but should be
able to in the near future.

Novell themselves may provide something of a solution, however.  You may want
to investigate their NFS NetWare Loadable Module.  I know that it provides
NetWare to LPD printing facilities, allowing PC users to print to LPD print
queues (we support an LPD server in MultiNet).  The NFS NLM may also support an
LPD server itself, which would allow MultiNet users to print files via our LPR
client facilities.  I don't know all that much about the NFS NLM, however, but
it may be worth investigating.

Regards!
-----Stuart
From: GAVRON@IT.SUNQUEST.COM (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2546)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Question about running a command procedure from the Multinet_Server
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:03:33 -0700 (MST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Date sent:  29-DEC-1992 14:01:16 


I wrote:
>> Ideally one could
>>	mult config/serv
>>	add bogon
>>	set program multinet:run_bogon_mumps.com
>

Kevin Carosso added:
>Yes, a facility for invoking servers with a CLI would be useful!

I just got around it by doing:

/*
 * call sys$creprc with input set to command file multinet:mumps_server.com
 *			output       nty device
 *
 * Then let the command file assign a channel to the nty device (before the
 * timer down below runs out ... kludge... kludge...) and open a log file
 * for output.
 */


#include <descrip.h>
#include <lnmdef.h>
#define cli_image 	"SYS$SYSTEM:LOGINOUT.EXE"
#define command_file	"MULTINET:MUMPS_SERVER.COM"
#define log_file	"MULTINET:MUMPS_SERVER.LOG"
#define lnm_table	"LNM$FILE_DEV"
#define inet_dev	"SYS$INPUT"

cmain()
{
	int ss_stat;
	int sys$creprc();
	static int pid;
	struct {
	   short buflen;
	   short itemcode;
	   char *bufaddr;
	   int *retlen;
	   } list[2];

	static $DESCRIPTOR(cli_desc,cli_image);
	static $DESCRIPTOR(cmd_desc,command_file);
	static $DESCRIPTOR(log_desc,log_file);
	static $DESCRIPTOR(lnm_desc,lnm_table);
	static $DESCRIPTOR(lnm_name,inet_dev);
	struct dsc$descriptor_s indev;
	char devbuf[100];
	indev.dsc$a_pointer = (char *) &devbuf;
	indev.dsc$w_length  = sizeof(devbuf);
	indev.dsc$b_dtype   = DSC$K_DTYPE_T;
	indev.dsc$b_class   = DSC$K_CLASS_S;

	list[0].buflen	= sizeof(devbuf);
	list[0].itemcode= LNM$_STRING;
	list[0].bufaddr = (char *) &devbuf;
	list[0].retlen  = (int *) &indev.dsc$w_length;
	list[1].buflen = list[1].itemcode = 0;

	ss_stat = sys$trnlnm(0,&lnm_desc,&lnm_name,0,&list);	
	
	if (!(ss_stat & 1)) sys$exit(ss_stat);

	ss_stat = sys$creprc(&pid,	/* pidadr */
			&cli_desc,	/* image */
			&cmd_desc,	/* input */
			&indev,		/* output - the real nty device */
			&indev,		/* error  - the real nty device */
			0,		/* prvadr */
			0,		/* quota */
			0,		/* prcnam */
			0,		/* baspri */
			0,		/* uic */
			0,		/* mbxunt */
			0) ;		/* stsflg */

	lib$wait(&5.0);	/* <--- if we deassign too quickly, the new process
				won't have a device to attach to */
	return(ss_stat);
}


Ehud

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From: adelman@TGV.COM (Kenneth Adelman)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Kerberos
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 14:01:35 PST
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

> Do you have anything on the net you can send me which describes capabilities
> and price/delivery for Kerberos? JON MELVIN jdm@cadre1.caltech.edu

    We don't have anything on the net, but a call to your salesperson
(800-TGV-3440 or 408-427-4366) will get you the literature.

    Kerberos (Authentication only) is available now for MultiNet
V3.1 for a media/doc charge, and will be part of MultiNet V3.2 which
we'll be shipping in mid January.

							Ken
From: SKAPUR@ccmail.sunysb.edu (Sanjay Kapur)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Multiple names.
Date: 28 Dec 1992 15:56:56 -0500 (EST)
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List


For historical and political reasons, remote users know one machine by 
three different names.  

Is it possible for Multinet's SMTP server to recognize more than two names
(HOST-NAME and SMTP-HOST-NAME) as local names so that mail sent to a local 
user at any of the three host names will be delivered to the local user?


  Sanjay Kapur    (SK54)              |Internet:    Sanjay.Kapur@sunysb.edu
  Systems Staff, Computing Services,  |Bitnet:      SKAPUR@USB
  State University of New York,       |SPAN/HEPnet: 44132::SKAPUR
  Stony Brook, NY 11794-2400        |Phone:+1-516 632 8029, FAX:+1-516 632 8046
From: KVC@SUMMER.INNOSOFT.COM (Kevin V. Carosso)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Multiple names.
Date: 29 Dec 1992 12:06:10 -0800 (PST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

> Is it possible for Multinet's SMTP server to recognize more than two names
> (HOST-NAME and SMTP-HOST-NAME) as local names so that mail sent to a local 
> user at any of the three host names will be delivered to the local user?

If you have PMDF this is trivial, simply add rewrites for the other names
whose right-hand-side is the same as the official local host name.

	/Kevin Carosso
	 Innosoft
From: KVC@SUMMER.INNOSOFT.COM (Kevin V. Carosso)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Question about running a command procedure from the Multinet_Server
Date: 29 Dec 1992 12:25:56 -0800 (PST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

> Ideally one could
>	mult config/serv
>	add bogon
>	set program multinet:run_bogon_mumps.com

Yes, a facility for invoking servers with a CLI would be useful!
Do it the way UCX V2 does, not because they do it right, but because
you have to emulate that anyway and don't waste your time solving the
same problem two ways.

	/Kevin Carosso
	 Innosoft
From: SEF@GROUCH.JPL.NASA.GOV (Better is the enemy of good... Voltaire)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Multinet Over DECnet
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:54:57 -0800 (PST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List



Multinet Colleagues, 
Some questions for your kind attention (thanks in advance): 

(1) Can disks on a SUN IPC be served to an Alpha AXP4000-610 running OpenVMS 
and vice versa using Multinet NFS over DECnet? The SUN would be on the DECnet 
cable also. Currently we have 2 SUN IPCs sharing NFS mounted disks over a 
DECnet Ethernet cable so I expect the answer is "yes". 

(2) If so then is there anything to be especially careful of? By the way, LAT
and LAVC are running on the same cable as well. 

(3) Also, are OpenVMS Volume-shadowed disks accessible via Multinet NFS? 

(4) Likewise any problem with bound volume sets?

Thanks Again,
Scott Fullner, JPL
From: simon@internode.com.au (Simon Hackett)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: followon to last query about networkable printers
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:28:50 +1030
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

> The Multinet PCU utility looks like it links VMS queues to remote TCP/IP
> printers.  What printers has this been used with successfully?  Any PostScript
> printers?  Is bi-directional communication possible with such printers?
> JON MELVIN   jdm@caltech.edu

Postscript is a very common target printer type for the MultiNet
remote printer queue stuff.

The PCU supports two sorts of printer queues - one sort which use the
Unix-ish "LPR/LPD" protocol to let you spool to anything which speaks
that protocol (e.g. many unix variants, many network-attached spooler
boxes of various sorts, etc etc).

The second sort is a "STREAM" connection, which hooks the print queue
to a TCP port number that you specify, on an IP node that you
specify. This works for printers from various vendors which support a
TCP/IP-port-over-ethernet connection, as well as most TCP/IP-capable
terminal servers, which generally let you configure serial ports for
a fixed TCP port number, and then use this STREAM symbiont to link
that port to a printer, just like you can do with LAT ports on a
DECserver (only much better, since TCP/IP connections are far more
resilient than LAT connections).

I have used both extensively. It all works pretty well, with the
exception of some occasional problems with some terminal servers
negotiating themelves into a corner with respect to telnet options,
and thus resulting in incorrect behaviour with respect to line
terminations (too few linefeeds in the resulting output, or sometimes
problems with doubled up "0xff" characters). These can generally be
resolved easily with some fiddling, and in particular the use of a
few logical names that control the behaviour of the symbiont. Write
to service@tgv.com if you run into problems of this sort using the
STREAM symbiont, none of them are very hard to deal with.

Simon

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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
From: draudson@bass.geo.ucalgary.ca (Byron Draudson)
Subject:  CMUTEK/MX -> Multinet/MX?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 20:44:34 GMT
Organization: CREWES Group, University of Calgary

Sorry if you've seen this post already - I don't think my first one made it thru.

I'm currently running CMUTEK/IP and using the MX mailer.  I'm considering
switching to Multinet and am wondering about the impact (if any) on my current
mail setup.

1.  Does MX mail work with Multinet?  The MX docs say that the "supported"
    transports are CMUTEK and UCX.  Perhaps, MX can make use of Multinet's
    UCX emulation?

2.  While I'm thinking of it - is there an NNTP client for Multinet?

Thanks in advance.

:byron
From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: NCSA 2.2 D "doesn't like" Kerberos (MAS)
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:08:59 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

For those of you running Multinet Authentication Services (aka
Kerberos) - please be aware the PC version of NCSA Telnet 2.2 D
does not handle the authentication option negotiation. This will cause
the telnet session on the PC to never even get to the USERNAME prompt
on the VMS system.

Thanks to Ken Adelman for analyzing the problem quickly! :-)
From: RABINOWITZ@VAX5.BEAR.COM (Ari)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Are different images used in Multinet V3.1 for VMS 5.4 and VMS 5.5?
Summary: Mixed cluster needs to run Multinet
Keywords: Multinet VMS 5.5 5.4
Date: 24 Dec 92 17:33:50 GMT
Organization: BEAR STEARNS & CO.
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hi,

I am finally ready to upgrade to Multinet V3.1 on our cluster (since
V3.2 is about to be released :-), but we have a Multi-version cluster
since our 65x0's are running VMS 5.4-2 and we have 10 VAXStation 4000
Mod 60's running VMS A5.5.  We are using the undocumented definitions
of the Multinet logicals to move Multinet off of the System disk so that
I don't have to install it on the system disks for each of the system
disks in the cluster. (We have two 5.4-2 system disks, and 10 A5.5
system disks).

Are there any images which are different for VMS 5.4 and VMS 5.5?  I
have been running 3.0 in this configuration for several months now with
no problem but it just occurred to me that I might have been lucky that
we haven't seen any problems but I might be sitting on a "dynamite keg".

Please respond as soon as possible, and then have happy holidays.

Thanks,
Ari

Ari Rabinowitz                  rabinowitz@bear.com for VMS and personal mail
WorkStation Administrator	ari@bear.com for sun/HP Un*x mail
Bear Stearns
From: JFISHER@ISDRES.ER.USGS.GOV (James R. Fisher 703-648-7026)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Print Redirection to Novell
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:23:44 -0500 (EST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

A firm named InterConnections, Inc. makes a product called Network
Print Services (NPS). About it, they say: 'NPS is VAX/VMS software
that directs output from a VMS print queue to a NetWare print queue.
With NPS installed, VAX/VMS users can print to printers connected to
NetWare print servers as if the printers are connected directly to
the VAX.'

I have tried a demo copy, and it behaved as advertised for the
three-allowed NetWare print queues. I would buy it if I had any money
to spare. I can't speak about price, but it varies with VAX size and
the number of NetWare printers you want to send output to. They are:

InterConnections, Inc.
14711 NE 29th Place
Bellevue, WA 98007, USA
(206) 881-5773
FAX: (206) 867-5022
Sales: 1-800-950-5773
From: adelman@TGV.COM (Kenneth Adelman)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Multiple names.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 14:14:57 PST
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

> For historical and political reasons, remote users know one machine by
> three different names.

> Is it possible for Multinet's SMTP server to recognize more than two names
> (HOST-NAME and SMTP-HOST-NAME) as local names so that mail sent to a local
> user at any of the three host names will be delivered to the local user?

    Create MULTINET:SMTP_HOST_ALIASES with a list of the names
you want (each on a separate line). This augments the "built-in"
list which considers HOST-NAME and SMTP-HOST-NAME.

    This requires MultiNet V3.1 or later.

							Ken
From: RABINOWITZ@VAX5.BEAR.COM (Ari)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Undocumented NFS Netcontrol commands
Summary: What are RECORD-RESPONSE-TIMES and SHOW-RESPONSE-TIMES?
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:56:05 GMT
Organization: BEAR STEARNS & CO.
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hi,

I just upgraded to Multinet V3.1 and I noticed that NETCONTROL NFS
has some commands which I didn't see in the manual.  The commands
are RECORD-RESPONSE-TIMES and SHOW-RESPONSE-TIMES.  Since we are
very interested in NFS server performance these new commands look
like they might be of interest to us, but RECORD-RESPONSE-TIMES
gives an "?Unknown error" when I give it any parameter and
SHOW-RESPONSE-TIMES just returns:
< NFS server response times:
< OK
NFS>

Are these commands really implemented?  Are they designed as Server or
Client commands?

I also have another question about the NFS server on V3.1.  I saw in the
documentation that we can define a "cluster alias IP address" for
automatic fail-over of NFS service.  It wasn't clear to me exactly how
and where this is defined.  Specifically I would like one node of my
cluster to be the master NFS server, but if that node crashes I would
like another specific node to pick up the alias.  How do I tell Multinet
that VAX5 for example should start answering the IP alias address and
that VAX9 should be the backup node?

Thanks for any help you can give.

Ari

Ari Rabinowitz                  rabinowitz@bear.com for VMS and personal mail
WorkStation Administrator	ari@bear.com for sun/HP Un*x mail
Bear Stearns
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison)
Subject: Re: CMUTEK/MX -> Multinet/MX?
Reply-To: madison@tgv.com
Organization: The Foundation for Dinner Peas
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:55:21 GMT

In article <92Dec31.204434.18924@acs.ucalgary.ca>, draudson@bass.geo.ucalgary.ca (Byron Draudson) writes:
>I'm currently running CMUTEK/IP and using the MX mailer.  I'm considering
>switching to Multinet and am wondering about the impact (if any) on my current
>mail setup.
>
>1.  Does MX mail work with Multinet?  The MX docs say that the "supported"
>    transports are CMUTEK and UCX.  Perhaps, MX can make use of Multinet's
>    UCX emulation?

You may be running an older version of MX.  MX has directly supported
MultiNet since V2.2 or so.  The latest version is V3.1C.

>2.  While I'm thinking of it - is there an NNTP client for Multinet?

There are several:

ANU-News  - Not just a news reader, but a full-blown news system for VMS,
            including both an NNTP client and server.  Available by anonymous
            FTP from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu and sao.aarnet.edu.au.  VMS style user
	    interface.  Contact Geoff Huston (geoff@sao.aarnet.edu.au) for
	    more information.

NEWSRDR   - A news reader (NNTP client).  Requires access to a system running
            an NNTP server.  Available by anonymous FTP from ftp.spc.edu in
            directory [.MADISON.NEWSRDR].  A recent (but not the most recent)
            version also appears on the MultiNet CDROM distribution, under
            the [CONTRIBUTED-SOFTWARE.APPLICATIONS] directory.  It is also
            available through e-mail distribution from the BITNET mail server
	    address FILESERV@WKUVX1 (send a one-line e-mail message with the 
            text "HELP" in the message body for more information).  Contact
	    Matt Madison (madison@tgv.com) for more information.

VNEWS     - Another NNTP client.  Available by anonymous FTP from arizona.edu
            in directory [SOFTWARE.VMS.VNEWS].  UNIX style user interface.
	    Contact Joel Snyder (jms@arizona.edu) for more information.

VMS NEWS  - Yet another NNTP client.  Available by anonymous FTP from
            ftpvms.ira.uka.de, directory [.NEWS].

DXRN/MXRN - DECwindows and Motif implementations of xrn, an X Windows based
            NNTP client. Available by anonymous FTP from decuac.dec.com,
            file /pub/DEC/dxrn.share.  Contact Rick Murphy
	    (murphy@burfle.dco.dec.com) for more information.

BULLETIN  - Includes a USENET news reading mode.  Send mail to    
            BULLETIN@ORYANA.PFC.MIT.EDU with the word "INFO" in the message
	    body for details on what BULLETIN is and how to get it.

Many of these programs are also available from DECUS, either from the DECUS
Library or on recent VAX SIG tapes.

-Matt
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