From: lsmith@pico.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Preludes and Nocturnes TPB
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:32:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: pico.lsmith.722140328
Organization: Little Explosive Squids of the Poor

In <Bxvwo0.ILE@news.udel.edu> krupski@ravel.udel.edu (James John Krupski) writes:
>In article <lsmith.721332038@hecto> lsmith@hecto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>>>>rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:
>>>>> 	While browsing in the TPB edition of the first SANDMAN arc,
>>>>> I noticed that the layout and art in part 4 ("A Hope in Hell") had
>>>>> been redone at the point wherein Dream encounters Lucifer in the 
>>>>> infernal palace.  The art is clearly not the work of Kieth -- its
>>>>> either Dringenberg or McKean.  Can anyone give the reason this
>>>>> sequence was altered?
>>>>
>>
>>I checked and the sequence was altered between 4 and the collection. The
>>only reason I can give is that in the original the artwork is spread
>>across two pages, even though the dialogue runs sequentially. (That
>>isn't really clear, is it?) In the collection the paging has changed (no
>>full page ads) so that the same pages are now back to back. 
>>

>Sure, that's one possible reason.  But if so, then why change Lucifer's  
>facial features so dramatically?  Those are two distinctly different faces.

My guess is that you just had two different artists doing the character and
their impressions were different. Delirium has been done by five different
artists (Dringenberg, MacManus, Thompson, Bisley and whoever did the Special)
and I think her appearance changes quite a bit when the artist changes. Of
course, there is a current thread that says this is intentional.

>So, I put it to the Net: WHOSE faces are those?

>I think the first (unchanged) face looks like Neil's.  (I've never met him.)
>(Maybe, on reflection, he didn't care to be associated so closely with
>the character, and asked that it be changed for the TPB.)

I doubt it. Mr G has appeared on at least one cover of Sandman. It is
left up to the reader to decide which one. I'm not telling because I
honestly can't recall at the moment. 

>So who was the face changed to?
>IMO it looks sort of like Robert Plant.
>Not that I think Robert Plant is Lucifer.

You know, at times I think Robert Plant thinks Jimmy Page is Lucifer...

ObDigression: There is a Timex ad running at the moment that is based 
around Boomer the cat. Boomer was sent in a box to some politicians office.
For some reason, they thought the box contained a bomb and so the bomb
squad blew up the box. Boomer survived. (What they don't tell you in the ad  
is that the box contained other kittens who weren't so lucky.) If you see 
this ad, take a look at Boomer. It's a very white cat with a mixed matched
set of eyes. (One eye is greenish, the other is blue.)  

If Delirium is still looking for a pet, I think we have a candidate.
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