HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fred_s@earwax.pei.com (Fred Scott)
Subject: Re: Eh?
Organization: Nerds On Parade
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:45:55 GMT

In article <george.717694793@neurotic> george@neurotic.sni.de (Turnbull) writes:
>Food not bombs?  Don't be stupid!!!  What good would it have done dropping
>thousands of kilos of chees and pickle sandwiches on Irak???

Oh, yeah?!?  They should have tried dropping 50,000 of Mayslack's Roast Beef
Sandwiches on Tehran.  With all that garlic, 'ol Saddam would 'a been on
his knees by the third day!  (And I could just Mr. Mayslack growling at him,
"Both hands, 'ya jerk, BOTH HANDS!")

Fred

(p.s. sorry, I guess you have to have lived in the Twin Cities to
understand...)
Newsgroups: alt.org.food-not-bombs
From: joann@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
Subject: Re: alt.org.food-not-bombs
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:35:26 GMT

In article <BETSYS.92Sep26120528@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>In article <Bv5GoM.Dvp@andy.bgsu.edu> tligman@bgsu.edu (thomas ligman) writes:
>
>   Out of curiosity, what is this newsgroup all about?
>
>There's an organization called food-not-bombs that goes around
>promoting peace and soup kitchens. They distribute literature and
>inexpensive food at rallies and gatherings and I think do work with
>shelters. 
>  I had thought they were local to Massachusetts but perhaps they are
>national? 

I thought they were local to San Francisco. They get arrested a lot
for their guerilla sandwich lines, feeding people without official
permission. They are the Greenpeace of soup kitchens, long may they wave.

*) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *)!(* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (*
Jo Ann Malina, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, joann@slac.stanford.edu
Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.
Newsgroups: alt.org.food-not-bombs
From: lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte)
Subject: Re: alt.org.food-not-bombs
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:39:36 GMT


I saw FnB at the Ben and Jerry's Music festival in Golden Gate park
two weekends ago. I didn't hhave time to stop and gab, but it did look
like they had some yummy bread for free. 

The concert was a blast. A tribute to socially responsable businesses.

Newsgroups: alt.org.food-not-bombs
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Subject: Re: Eh?
Originator: clewis@bcarh1d7
Organization: wot?
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:12:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.014555.7232@pei.com> fred_s@earwax.pei.com (Fred Scott) writes:
|In article <george.717694793@neurotic> george@neurotic.sni.de (Turnbull) writes:
|>Food not bombs?  Don't be stupid!!!  What good would it have done dropping
|>thousands of kilos of chees and pickle sandwiches on Irak???

|Oh, yeah?!?  They should have tried dropping 50,000 of Mayslack's Roast Beef
|Sandwiches on Tehran.  With all that garlic, 'ol Saddam would 'a been on
|his knees by the third day!  (And I could just Mr. Mayslack growling at him,
|"Both hands, 'ya jerk, BOTH HANDS!")

been on his knees praising Allah...

[Tehran is in *Iran* ... I think you want Baghdad...  ;-)]
Newsgroups: alt.org.food-not-bombs
From: miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Ballard)
Subject: Re: alt.org.food-not-bombs
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 01:00:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.170611.12163@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> zenith89@bcarh1eb.bnr.ca () writes:
>In article <BETSYS.92Sep26120528@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>>There's an organization called food-not-bombs that goes around
>>promoting peace and soup kitchens. 
>Great. All the world needs... more &*#$@& peacelovers. 
>I'll bet they are all greenies too, the jerks.
>...CPV
>"If ya don't work ya don't eat." -- Pat Buchanan.
I've never heard of Pat doing anything useful.  I wonder why he's so
fat.  Could it be that Food Not Bombs has been feeding him?


-- 
Mike Ballard 
Time is money. Steal some today!
Don't just complain, organize! e-mail iww@igc.org  Ph: (415)863-WOBS.

Newsgroups: alt.org.food-not-bombs
From: drichter@owlnet.rice.edu (David Richter)
Subject: Re: alt.org.food-not-bombs
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:33:08 GMT

In article <Bv5GoM.Dvp@andy.bgsu.edu> tligman@bgsu.edu (thomas ligman) writes:
>
>Out of curiosity, what is this newsgroup all about?
>

Some friends of mine found out about the SF Food-not-Bombs and started one
at some point last year at home (NYC).  What they were doing as FnB was
joining demos with FnB signs, and natuarally, distributing food.  I joined
them a few times last winter, and with food donated by local organizations,
we'd prepare a hot dinner (remember, this is january in new york-it's rather
cold) and go out to feed people.  One neighborhood church was cool about this,
and we also distributed in a subway entrance once  (the pigs, err, cops,
were cool about it so long as no one made a mess and we were out of the way
of those using the station.

dr
From: neel@news.ils.nwu.edu (Kevin Neel)
Newsgroups: alt.org.food-not-bombs
Subject: Re: Eh?
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:39:06 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Fred Scott (fred_s@earwax.pei.com) wrote:
: In article <george.717694793@neurotic> george@neurotic.sni.de (Turnbull) writes:
: >Food not bombs?  Don't be stupid!!!  What good would it have done dropping
: >thousands of kilos of chees and pickle sandwiches on Irak???
: 
: Oh, yeah?!?  They should have tried dropping 50,000 of Mayslack's Roast Beef
: Sandwiches on Tehran.  With all that garlic, 'ol Saddam would 'a been on
: his knees by the third day!  (And I could just Mr. Mayslack growling at him,
: "Both hands, 'ya jerk, BOTH HANDS!")
: 
: Fred
: 
: (p.s. sorry, I guess you have to have lived in the Twin Cities to
: understand...)

Well, I just visited the Twin Cities, and somehow I still don't
understand why Saddam would care what you dropped on Tehran...
Newsgroups: alt.org.food-not-bombs
From: lkriho@psych.colorado.edu (Lora Kriho)
Subject: 100th Monkey
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:54:34 GMT

Thanks to Food Not Bombs for providing food for hundreds of people at
the 100th Monkey protest at the Test Site in Las Vegas last April.

It was my first experience with the group.  They're great!!!

Keep up the good work!!!

Peace, laura
From: radzy@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Lynne Radzykewycz)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: images of females
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:31:19 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

>pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
>fannin@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (elizabeth a fannin) writes:
>>thank the spirits for middle eastern dance!!! nothing like seeing a woman 
>>with a mother goddess figure dance rings around a little creature with a 
>>washboard >>stomach, and steal the show right away from her!  and 
>>seeing *all* types of figures and styles of movement work, with their 
>>particular advantages.  *that'll* clean your stereotype cupboard out....
>
>Agreed. You can't belly dance without hips and bellies and much back. In a 

Whoops, Paul, you seemed to have missed the part where Liz says "and 
seeing ALL type of figures... work, with their particular advantages".

Having seen hundreds of bellydancers over the past 10+ years, I've found
that it's the dancer's skill of movement and ability to project his/her
feelings to the audience that makes a great dancer.  NOT their body
structure.

THAT is what makes bellydancing so wonderful.

Lynne
---------------
lynne@hpnst.mayfield.hp.com
From: lazarus@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Pagan Rock Artists...
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:14:38 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: venture.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <1992Oct3.232003.2829@news.cs.indiana.edu>, alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (Amy Young Leith) writes:
>I would think that in most cases, trying to guess someone's religion
>by their songs is at best chancey.  One of the wonderful things about
>music is that it is all open to interpretation, and we each can
>probably find different meanings in the same songs.  
>
>Also, from taking into consideration the whole span of what many
>musicians write about, they write about a lot of things they may not
>personally support 100 percent. 

Yeah... I was asking for such information that would come from interviews,
authorized bibliographies, autobiographies, etc... NOT what is gathered to
be the chosen religion of an artist by his work!  ;)

>amy
>-- 
>alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu for personal mail
>			    All business mail to alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       I only speak for myself.  Anyone who thinks differently is a fool.

By the bye... I saw a thing just tonight on MTV Music News, an interview with
Sinead O'Connor.  She doesn't believe in "the church" (organized religions),
but still believes in God and Jesus.  Afterwards, the "anchorperson" stated
the opinions of two archbishops in NYC, one of whom said Ms. O'Connor needs
"psychological and spiritual help"...

--
Bart -Laz- Smith
Kansas State University
'Cats - 19, New Mexico State - 0. Good defense.  Next stop, guess who?  KU. >;)
"Why should we get kicked for $125,000 when we could get kicked for $300,000?"
	-- Jim Hess, NMSU head football coach on not being able to get out of 
	   it's scheduled game(s) against Kansas State University.  ("What? A
	   KSU foe tried to get out of the game!", Wichita Eagle, October 1,
	   1992)
"Guess what?  George just got picked off... The inning is over, but who cares?
	George Brett got base hit No. 3,000, no runs, one hit, nobody left.  We
	go to the bottom of the seventh, the Royals 3, Angels 0, George 3,000."
	-- Fred White, calling the play after... well, it's kinda obvious... 
	   on Wednesday, September 30, 1992.  ("Announcer White had to put
	   milestone call on hold", Kansas City Star, October 2, 1992)

Congratulations, George.
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: more lyrics, what does this mean to you?
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:06:29 GMT

Here's some more lyrics, anyone care to express an interpretation? There
is no right or wrong, just different interpretations. So go ahead, jump in.
I don't bite.

Wages of love is the penalty of heartaches
to be in love with someone who really doesn't love you
to be in love with someone who really doesn't want you
they say, faith is the key and love will guide the way
but I say, wages of love, the penalty of heartaches
girl, to be my wife, is got from a life ...
you don't know me
she don't know me
she never never know me
the one who love her so


Ref: KJV Romans 6:23:
For the wages of sin (separation) is death (reunification).
From: erik@cs.uq.oz.au (Erik van Keulen)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Trad and Non-Trad in Seattle [Was: Request for Info - Samhain]
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:36:24 GMT
Reply-To: erik@cs.uq.oz.au

In <c3JRRB4w165w@ailanth.UUCP> ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T.
Murphy) writes:

>and this states quite nicely why i am not wiccan.  hetersosexual
>imagery is all very nice, but it doesn't symbolize anything spiritual
>or meaningful for ME.  heterosexual sex is like telephone poles.  it's
>all very useful, and my world wouldn't work as well if it didn't
>exist, but i don't need to symbolize it in my rituals, and it doesn't
>excite me much.  the whole wiccan heterosexual dualistic pairing system
>leaves me quite cold.  i have gods in my universe, but none of them are
>lovers to any of the goddesses, at least not that I have to look at...
>fathers and brothers are perfectly decent male roles as well...

Um. Gee! I'm queer, and i keep getting confused by all the _biology_ of
religion. But... "telephone poles"!!! Ailsa, you have put this issue
into perspective for me!
I've just read Diane Duane's books, "Door into Shadow" and "Door into
Fire". She actually integrates the symbol of two (male) lovers into her
fictional world's religion. I was muchly comforted. I think i should just
take more freedom to make up symbols which mean something to me. I always
felt i should sit quietly in corners of existing religions, watching but
not saying anything. But of course, when i'm exploring my own spirituality,
i'm not bothering anyone, am i?   ;-)
Does anyone know anything about the "radical faeries"? Someone told me
yesterday it's a group of gay pagans or something. Maybe i should wander
over to bit.listserv.gaynet and ask there too. So convenient, the '90's and
computers and all. Just have to _use_ them...

(smiles...)
______________________________________erik@cs.uq.oz.au______
Erik van Keulen                 I'm queer... so what?!  \  /
_________________________________________________________\/
From: blchapma@eos.ncsu.edu (BEKKI LYN)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Danger of Repression
Keywords: education
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:11:27 GMT
Reply-To: blchapma@eos.ncsu.edu (BEKKI LYN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: blchapma@c00040-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu


In article <BvB14z.n4B@encore.com>, aaldrich@encore.com (Al Aldrich) writes:
|> I was completely unaware that the witch hunters were so well organized.
|> Wow..this is scary to me. I guess I now know why my sister wanted to
|> have a teacher dismissed in her son's school because she had a ouija board
|> in her game closet. Nothing more really to say. Just `be careful out there'.

Yeah, welcome to the real world.  Go into any Christian bookstore and
you will find whole sections on Fundimentalist beliefs on the occult
and new age, etc.  From my own studies, the Christians who profess these
beliefs feel that using a ouija board opens oneself up to demonic
possession.  The same with tarot cards or any other sort of divination.
"New Age" meditation will work the same way because one is not 
meditating on the bible in prayer.

In fact, I've found lots of information in the public library.  Look 
under topics such as Satanism and New Age.  They tend to throw 
everyting into those two categories.
-- 

Bekki Lyn

************************************************************
"All's well at the midnight hour; you're ready to fly
 Don't think about the darkness, or the rumbling in the sky.
 Somewhere on the morning road just waiting for you
 Some things that just could never be are calling up a
   spell so you can see..
 Dream Evil, the dark that you find in the back of your mind
 Dream Evil Dream Evil -- DIO --
************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest)
Subject: TechnoPagan Blessings
Summary: raves and lasers 
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:35:59 GMT

A Technopagan Blessing upon the first
firing-up of a new HeNe laser (tedwards@wam.umd.edu)
========================================

(best done in dark room with mini-Maglites in "candle" mode)

I call upon the the ancient explosion that caused the helium
I call upon the burning stars that gave rise to the neon
I call upon the the Goddess, bringer of nature, bringer of technology,
 mistress of quantum physics, and spirit of circuitry

Blessed be this helium neon laser
May it deliver a bright, coherent, TM00 beam for many years
May it not outgas nor be dropped before its time.
May it cause great joy and contentment in those who play
 with its beam,
May it be used only for metrology in her name, and harm none.

Blessed be also this power supply
May its high voltage terminals never be applied to living flesh
May it long apply the voltage and current required to start
  the tube
May it run long, warm, and strong, like an antelope on the plain.

Let its coherent beam show us the path.
Let us remember to be like the beam; brilliant, directed, and colorful.

<All>
Blessed be this new laser,
Blessed be, and rave on!

[Fire up the tube]



    		Technopagan's Rave Prayer
                (by cyberpun@wam.umd.edu)

We thank the Technology Godess for giving us the ability to rave.

We desire that through the rave ritual we can use technology to bring
    the people of the world together in peace by means of dance.

We finally wish that the Technology Godess will receive our ecstasy
    while raving as an offering and a celebration of her omnipotence.

--Blessed Be and Rave on...


Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: kditto@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kimborly Ditto)
Subject: Offerings...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 03:35:03 GMT


Hello everyone!  I know, I haven't posted in a while, but I've been
waiting til I had something to post.

Firsst off, I wanted to thank you ALL for the beautiful posts lately.  For
the past 2 weeks I have been touched by  things said here.  For those of
you who were around back when I was posting last year, thanks for all your
help then too.  My SO thanks all who answered my posts asking about
Druidism - he's still (very happily!!:)) pouring over those posts and
buying the books suggested.  Thanks!!

The following is a poem I conposed when I should have been writing my
paper on Aristotle.  It's kind of rough, and it might not be very good,
but I wanted to share it with you all, since (unbeknownst to you all)
you've been helping me make the transition from Master's student to PhD.  

It's a poem based on a painting by Jean Leon Jerome entitled Pygamlion and
Galatea.  The story is fuzzy in my brain, which might account for any
historical errors that might exist, so just try to ignore those.  Enjoy!

Kind soul is he,
Who works in honor of me;
What lengths I have inspired him to!?

A work so fair -
Yet cold and bare;
ANd still with passion the work does he yet do!

A graceful smile he has given her.
Down a beautiful back
Her hair glistens,
Almost as if she were real....

Her eyes almost sparkle,
Her chest almost rises;
ANd that smile ... it almost quirks!
Almost.......

Come watch as he works - 
With fire in his eyes,
Singleness of mind,
ANd tenderness of touch.

This work of your hands -
It is your gift to me?
I am deeply moved.

ANd so...
This work of life,
Is my gift to you.

Treat her well, Pygmalion,
ANd you might win her heart
As you have mine.

--Kimborly A. Ditto (aka Athena)
9/29/92

Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: ciaran@county.lmt.mn.org (Ciaran Benson)
Subject: Re: beginners need help
Reply-To: ciaran@county.lmt.mn.org (Ciaran Benson)
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 14:25:02 GMT

In article <Buyzzt.750@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ba@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (B.A. 
Davis-Howe) writes:
>  I probably should have used some other word than "really"--
> maybe "fully".  When you *know* that you are a Witch, then you have 
experienced
> Initiation, whether or not you went through some ritual.

  Like so many initiations, when you are truely ready for the
next step and have "earned" the title, you no longer are
interested in the title or the ritual.

  Initiations in my tradition usually recognise what already
*is* -- you have to make yourself what you will be, we can
only recognise what you've become.

  That's not to say that there aren't transformative rituals,
I'm just not talking about that right now.

  Blessed be, Ciaran.

------------------------
Ciaran@county.lmt.mn.org                      Not an LM spokesbeing

  "... hey but I don't care cause sometimes I said sometimes I hear
   my voice and it's been HERE silent all these years" -- TORI AMOS
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra)
Subject: Re: Witches and death
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:58:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.174908.19760@radian.uucp> markbr@radian.uucp (markbr) writes:
>
>Actually, Iwonder, if there is such a thing as reincarnation, if you
>have a choice nowadays, since there are more people alive, *now* than
>have *ever* lived. Or are there just *lots* of first-timers?
>
>	mark

That comment sparked a memory of a Sci fi story I once read, and if the
power here doesn't blink and disconnect me again, I'll actually relate 
it to you (gotta get the battery in the UPS fixed).

There was an Indian (Hindu) doctor sometime in the future. At the beginning
of the story he'd just delivered a baby that had no brain wave activity at
all. Something completely new. As the story progressed, more of these
brainless babies were being born. Also, fewer people were dying because
of the great strides medical science had made in stopping death. Finally,
he was talking to a friend, and his friend mentioned that there were as many 
people on the planet as had ever existed in recorded history. The doctor
said he knew what he had to do to stop the babies from being born brainless.
He had to die.

I have that story in an anthology somewhere, and when I find it I'll tell
you the author and the title. This is just a brief summarization.

Bb,

Corun

-- 
===========================================================================
    Corun MacAnndra    |
  Dark Horde by birth  |      Forewarned is a Hindu god.
    Moritu by choice   |
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: ba@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (B.A. Davis-Howe)
Subject: Re: tarot decks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:08:21 GMT
Keywords: tarot

rob@netcom.com (Robert Rogers) writes:

>In article <Bv2Jo2.1JF@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jonesrl2@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Richard Jones) writes:
>>	I'm new here, and I was wondering if someone could help me out.  
>>I am planning on buying a tarot deck, but I don't know which one I should
>>get.  I was thinking of the Rider-Waight (sp?) deck, but then I saw an ad 
>>for the "Celtic Tarot" deck.  What I want, is one that has actual pictures
>>on each of the cards, not a deck where all of the minors look pretty much 
>>the same.  Does any one know if the Celtic Tarot deck is what I am looking
>>for, and if not, do you have any other suggestions? thanks in advance.
>>			
>>					Richard
>>

>I'm not a huge fan of Crowley, but I think his deck is a work of art.
>By far the "deepest" artwork and symbolism. Every card is a piece of work
>all by itself.

>I'm not sure about the "official" name, but it's printed by U.S. games
>(aren't they all?)

The "Crowley" deck is titled "The Book of Thoth" and is actually done by
Lady Frieda Harris.  Crowley defined the basic symbolism, but she did all
the art work.


              Merry meet, merry part, merry meet again,
                               Br'anArthur

Queer, Peculiar, and Wyrd! :-)

******************************************************************************
Newage is hypoallergenic spirituality--
it's for people who are allergic to the word religion.
                                   --Jon Jay Obermark
From: conib@peri.gvg.tek.com (Coni Britten)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Little Boxes (was: another poem)
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:39:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <17608@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie) writes:

>Would you please post the Sing Out! reference to this? I would have sworn
>by all god/desses living, dead, and unborn that this song was Malvina's.
>The story I heard was that she wrote it in response to all the apartment
>complexes ("little boxes made of ticky-tacky") being built in the 
>Berkeley hills, so the reference to the "University" is, of course,
>UC Berkeley.

What "University" reference?  Could you post the words that have this in
it?  I haven't seen any "University" in the words that have been posted
so far.

Thanks ...


Coni B.
conib@peri.gvg.tek.com
Newsgroups: alt.pagan