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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:21:20 EDT
From:         Bill Rubin <rubinm@WATSON.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Telnet defaultappl override?
X-To:         IBMTCP-L@pucc.Princeton.EDU

> In several other messages, it was mentioned that it is not
> possible using telnet to reach different appls without
> a network solicitor or similar product.
>
> As an alternative, is it possible to set up multiple
> telnet ports with different defaultappls?  Or is there
> a telnet parameter the user can specify to override
> the default appl?
>
> We have several applications which do not require passwords
> (library system).  We would like to avoid users having to
> specify passwords on a network solicitor or on the telnet
> enter appl screen (no default appl specified in config file).
>

There is no reason why the user needs to enter his userid and password on
our "Enter application" screen if there is no RESTRICTAPPL protection
given to the application he wants to get to.  It is probably a bit
confusing, but just entering the applid should suffice.

Bill Rubin
IBM TJ Watson Research
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:15:59 EDT
From:         Roger Fajman <RAF@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject: Re: encoding binary-file attributes for mailing

> One possible solution to this problem for the NJE world is to simply transport
> bytes as bytes.  NJE carries "lines" defined by byte counts.  Since this
> doesn't attach significance to the meaning of the bytes they can be transporte
d
> and delivered and the meaning can be assigned at the destination (where the
> bytes leave the NJE network).  As long as the data is labeled at the origin
> this process is simple (the process is simple, that doesn't mean that makes
> implementation simple).
>
>   John

Yes, exactly the argument I was trying to make on the XMAILER list.

May I suggest that the proper list for this discussion is neither
IBMTCP-L or XMAILER, but rather MAIL-L?
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:19:25 CDT
From:         Richard Peurifoy <X229RP@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Netview/SNMP

On Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:42:21 CET Llorente, Santiago said:
>We're trying to install SNMP/Netview on MVS. Our SNMPIUCV Netview task says
>it's awaiting Connection Complete from the Query Engine, and
>Netview SNMP commands are rejected (SNMPIUCV not connected).
>No other messages are displayed by any of the SNMP tasks.
>
>Has anybody seen a similar problem?
>Could someone who has got SNMP to work on MVS mention if there is some
>source of information for SNMP other than the TCP/IP Installation manual?
>
>This brings another question:
>Is there any tool to monitorize AF_IUCV sockets?
>If not it can be pretty difficult to debug applications using IUCV sockets ...
>
>Thanks for any help/comments
>
>Santiago Llorente                                SLLORENT AT ESOC.BITNET
>European Space Operations Centre                 DE27PXNP AT IBMMAIL
>Darmstadt (Germany)                              Phone: 49-6151-902

Have you started the SNMPQE address space? The SNMPIUCV task interfaces
with this address space which in turn has socket connections to TCP/IP.
I get the message you are seeing if SNMPQE is not running.

There is additional info in the USER's GUIDE, and in the PROGRAMMER's
GUIDE. There is also some sample CLIST/REXX code in the INSTALL dataset.
These are mentioned in the USER's GUIDE (pg 132 in mine).

If I can be of any additional help let me know.

Richard
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:03:18 EDT
From:         John Voigt <FLIX@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Whining about FAL service again
              15 Apr 1992 11:41:39 EST from <SYSHERM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

*sigh*

As one of the primary (and probably loudest) complainers about the
service process I can only say that dissatisfied is probably not strong
enough a word to convey my feelings about this.  I understand the
situation at IBM since I spent quite a little while discussing it with
them but it is still really frustrating.

To answer your questions:  Those two numbers are one of the reasons
the service process is still broken.  The service process was broken up
into several areas:  base, source, kerberos(us), kerberos(world trade),
and nfs.  (I think those were the areas.)  Anyway, you get a fix and it
might affect multiple areas.  In your case, you got service (all for the
same problem) for the source area and also the base.

To address the other problem (source replacement) you need something
like the Cornell XCOMPARE program which will take two source files and
generate an update file.  This will save you hours of hand work comparing
files.  One thing which I feel I MUST commend the support center on:  I
looked at some service I got and they now have replacement COPY files
included.  This is a vast improvement over the 2.1 service which was so
severly broken that it was unusable.  I had to disassemble an ALLMACRO
MACLIB to get the copy files before I could even generate updates.

As a last note (to maybe relieve some fears) this is only a really bad
problem for those of us who run with mods.  If you are using vanilla
FAL then the base tape fixes should work without much strain on you.

John/

P.S.  The XCOMPARE program is available on the WATERLOO VM mods tape and
also the VM WORKSHOP tapes and can also be FTP'd from KSUVM.  (Sorry I
don't remember the details of the FTP access.)  If anyone has trouble
getting XCOMPARE, please let me know.
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:02:18 -0400
From:         gettes@PRINCETON.EDU
Subject:      Re: "The TCP/IP Connection" Newsletter
X-To:         IBM TCP/IP List <IBMTCP-L@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
              16 Apr 92 15:28:19 -0600. <9204162039.AA24338@phoenix>

On Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:28:19 -0600 uccxkvb@osuvm1.bitnet said:
> If the current TCPIP listowners (Princeton) do not volunteer to store
> the files, the Computer Center at Oklahoma State University would like to
> like to volunteer.

I already volunteered and will announce it when it is ready and how
to get it.

/mrg
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:37:51 EDT
From:         Roger Fajman <RAF@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject: Re: NETDATA Format

> On Thu, 2 Apr 1992 15:17:00 EST <Mike.Porter@MVS.UDEL.EDU> said:
> >Hi - What document defines NETDATA format?  I could look in the mailer
> >source, but I would prefer an exact description if possible.
>
> We had the same problem within EARN/BITNET and the only document I have
> found was something like MVS/TSO Programmers Guide - I am sorry I do not
> have a precise title or IBM order number with me.
>
> MIchael Hebgen

The one I have is TSO Extensions Version 2 Customization, SC28-1872-2,
page 390.
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:05:31 EST
From:         Guy Nash <GPNASH@OCC.BITNET>
Subject:      HELP TCPIP 2.2 VM <->3172

I'm installing VM TCPIP 2.2 on our VM/XA SP 2.1 system and am having a lot of
trouble getting TCPIP to talk to our 3172.

We've got 4 token-ring  adapters in the 3172. The 4th adapter has been assigned
to channel addresses C10-C11.

When TCPIP is started we get the following errors.....

Device L3172: Received startup packet
Device L3172: Error 1 in getting home hardware address for IBMTR number 0
PCCA3 device L3172: FindLinkNumber fails for NetType 65536000 AdapterNumber
51326792



I've talked with IBM level two..they sent me to my local office..who's waiting
for a callback from Raleigh... Anybody out there see this before?

Guy Nash              +1 313 540-1574   GPNASH@OCC
Systems Programmer
Oakland Community College
Bloomfield Hills, Mi, USA 48304
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:34:00 EDT
From:         "Mike Oatsvall" <SNORMO@MVS.SAS.COM>
Subject:      tcp/ip put maintenance
X-To:         IBMTCP-L%PUCC.BITNET@UNX.SAS.COM

Greetings,
I have recently discovered that maintenance for the MVS TCP product is
available on put tapes. For some reason I didn't think that this was
true.  However, I have since learned otherwise. Can anyone tell me on
which tape did this maintenace first appear? We're running the V2.1
product.  As always thanks for the assistance.

Mike
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:56:39 EST
From:         Rich Caserta <CASERTA@JHUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: _Windows 3.0 & Telnet

On Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:58:44 EST Jim Jones sent:
>
>If you are using the Clarkson packet drivers, are you putting the -w
>switch on, when loading the driver ? As in:
>
>wd8005e -w 0x65 3 0x300
>
>As I understand it from the instructions & tips from other packet driver
>users, this makes the driver verify that all its memory areas are still
>around when it gets control again (given that Windows is quite happy to
>go about moving memory about from under the applications).
>

Yeah, I already know about this.  The -w just lets packets drop dead on the
floor if the driver cannot perform the upcall to the TCP app.  But thanks!

Rich
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:49:00 LCL
From:         Eva Hocks <Y019@DDATHD21.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NetView/SNMP

To:       Bert Wijnen <wijnen@UITVM2.VNET.IBM.COM>

> Yes, you must define one (or more) community name(s) for the
> MVS agent. You do this in the tcpip.PW.SRC file.
> This is described in the Planning and Customization Guide (SC31-6085).
> under section "customizing the SNMP agent"

Bert,
thank you for your immediate answer. Unfortunately I don't have the
manual you mentioned. From the ITSC "Managing TCP/IP Networks Using NV
and SNMP Interface" I copied the PW.SRC example . I still get the
message 'incorrect community name ' on the RS/6000 althought I
have the name in the /etc/community file there as well.
Any ideas ?

VMmvs    130.83.22.1 255.255.255.255                  MVS system
VMMVS    130.83.22.1 255.255.255.255
KarlNapf 130.83.55.254 255.255.255.255                CISCO gateway
KARLNAPF 130.83.55.254 255.255.255.255
KarlNapf 130.83.55.237 255.255.255.255                RS/6000
KARLNAPF 130.83.55.237 255.255.255.255

Eva.
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:39:40 EST
From:         "Glen Matthews" <CCGM@MCGILLM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Sockets and server programs

Hi Scotty,

> >by forking, since open sockets are duplicated. On our system (MUSIC)
> >we accomplished this via the GIVESOCKET and TAKESOCKET calls, and a
> >small program discipline which involved enqueues and waking up tasks.
> ...
> I found the easiest way to do this on the server side is to use the
> select() system call. Kind of a quasi-multitasking ... works fine on CMS.
> After you issue a listen(), followed by an accept() for each new socket
> connection, issue a select() system call on the server.
> This allows multiple simultaneous connections from a number of
> clients - the select() call checks each socket in a sort of round-robin
> fashion, and indicates which socket has pending reads or writes. You can then
> issue a read (or a write) on whichever socket you want.
>
> Scotty

   The approach that we've taken is to use the Unix idea of an internet
daemon (oh how I love that spelling!) to wait for incoming calls.
This task will then wake up and start up the appropriate server (ftp,
finger, etc.). These servers are basically tasks that are spun off or
forked, just like in Unix, thus obviating any requirement for coding
any multi-tasking - the system handles this, as it should. Once the
remote FTP client, say, finishes and closes the connection, the FTP
server on our system simply finishes. It doesn't need to hang around.
Basically, the servers on our system are single thread, which makes
them real easy to code.

   We use the select extensively, because we don't want to block. Thus
prior to issuing READs (mostly, but WRITEs also) we check to see if
there is data. We don't issue a read unless we know that the call won't
block.

Glen Matthews
MUSIC Product Group, McGill University
550 Sherbrooke St. West, Montreal, Quebec, Canada H3A 3C5
Phone: (514) 398-4477 Fax: (514) 398-4488 BitNet: CCGM@MCGILLM
Internet: ccgm@musicm.mcgill.ca
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:55:26 +0200
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: redirecting output of NETSTAT
              10 Apr 1992 13:13:48 BST from IBM TCP/IP List <IBMTCP-L@PUCC>

>Then  stay tuned  to the  list (I  already saw  two replies,  which were
>basically 1) to  capture the console log.  or 2) to use  IUCV to receive
>the response).

And neither reply is what I  would call reasonable. Capturing the console
log requires you to close the console log, which you may very well have a
strong  reason  not  to  touch,  and also  involves  the  possibility  of
interspersed junk  traffic (messages  from servers,  etc). Using  IUCV is
practical only  in cases  where it  is not  already trapped  by something
else.  How would  you  trap NETSTAT  output in  a  server which  receives
commands via IUCV and  has a running console log -  like, say, just about
any network server?

>I seem  to recall  the Cornell  Mods also included  an interface  to the
>information that NETSTAT provides, but I forget the details.

IBM should have provided a STACK option.  I don't think this is the first
time this  issue is brought  up - in  fact, I remember  having complained
myself about the lack of a STACK option back in the V1 days.

  Eric
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:07:48 BST
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              BRYANJG@IBM3090.COMPUTER-CENTRE.BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK
From:         Graham Bryan <J.G.Bryan@BHAM.AC.UK>
Subject:      Sockets and server programs

I am looking at the possibilities of writing a TCP/IP based server
using the  'C' socket  interface rather than  the PASCAL  based API
normally used, and am a little confused over the use of sockets.

(One of the reasons  for wanting to  look at this  is that  we have
 recently got a  copy of  STENV/VM (Multitasking/Multithreaded  CMS
 extensions) which I though might be used as part of the the server
 coding).

The question  is how (if  at all) do  you use the  socket interface
with a  server when you  (potentially) want multiple  clients. With
the Pascal  based API  its easy  as you can  due multiple  calls to
'TcpOpen' and specify 'passive open'.

With the  Socket interface you appear  to be able to  call socket()
many times to  create sockets but HOW (if at  all) do you 'connect'
more than one of these sockets to  the port on which the client and
server at to communicate.

My reading of the manual indicates  that you can call bind() if you
are  using a  server  with a  single  socket (as  is  shown in  the
examples) but after that what do you do?

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:38:38 EST
From:         "Michael W. Kearney" <MICHAEL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Demonstration X client programs now available on the net
X-To:         ibmtcp-l%pucc.bitnet@NOC2.DCCS.UPENN.EDU

Jim Jones at Johns Hopkins has kindly agreed to set up a distribution
point for the demonstration X client programs I've ported to VM/CMS.
They are available via anonymous FTP from jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu.
They are in 'subdirectory' xdemos. Due to disk space limitations,
only the source is currently available. Should Jim be able to get
more disk space in the future, we'll put the MODULE's there as well.

To get the complete source, access a R/W
CMS minidisk as your A disk with at least 1.5 megabytes of space
available and enter:

ftp jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu

enter anonymous when promted for the userid, anything for a password.
Assuming you're coming in from a CMS system, enter the following at the
ftp prompt:

cd xdemos
mode b
type e
mget *.*

Follow the instructions in readme readme on how to generate the
program modules. Please direct questions, comments, and corrections
to me, not to Jim. I'll coordinate whatever changes and updates need
to be made.

There are 78 source files for the programs:

ICO PUZZLE MAZE XEV XXEDIT MUNCHER PLAID XDVI XPR XEYES

XDEMOS EXEC compiles and links the programs. Refer to the readme
file for details. You'll nedd aproximately 5.5 additional megabytes
of disk if you want to generate all the MODULE's.

I've sent a copy of this note to all those who responded directly
to me expressing an interest in the CMS X Clients and to IBMTCP-L. Enjoy.

Regards to all,

Michael Kearney
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:42:15 EDT
From:         Jim Bradley <FNA104@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      v2.2 nameserver

  I have converted to FAL v2.2 all components except the nameserver.
Now I'm trying to figure out how to test the 2.2 nameserver while
still running the old (2.1) version in production.
  Can this be done using the existing SQL machine, or must I use
another one? If the same machine, can I use the same tables?
  What I really need is an SQL cookbook for someone who uses it
only to support nameserver.
/Jim
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:15:43 EDT
From:         Bill Rubin <rubinm@WATSON.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: MVS FTP server problems
X-To:         IBMTCP-L@pucc.Princeton.EDU

> We are running MVS TCP/IP V2.1. I applied PUT 9107 and 9201
> about a month ago, but backed out due to the FTP server abending
> with 878-10.  I called this into support (pmr 5x153) and upon
> their recommendation, I reapplied 9107 and 9201 with UN14699/700
> on top.  We are experiencing the same problem.  Boy, it would
> really help if there were timestamps in SYSOUT.  btw, our MVS
> is ESA, and the abends occur frequently, about 5-6 times daily.

We have learned quite a bit about 878-10's in the past month or two.
APAR PN13361 was opened for a problem with TCPIP getting an S878-10,
but it will be closing without code in the next few days.  Here are some
things to look at if you are experiencing 878-10's in either TCPIP or
FTPSERVE:

a)  If the abend occurs at startup, make sure that you have not removed
    the "/" from the PARMS field. This can apparently cause nasty things
    to occur within Pascal and lead to an S878 abend. This is the problem
    which PN13361 was opened for.

b)  If the abend occurs after a few hours, TCP/IP PTF UN14708/9/10/11
    (APAR PN10637) may be the cause.  It fixes a problem where some
    storage was not being released properly, leading to some strange
    problems, including an 0C1 or S878, or

c)  If you are running MVS/XA or ESA, there is a set of PTFs which are
    PE'd and can apparently cause an S878 abend in strange cases.  The bad
    PTFs are UY46426/7/8/9, and the fixing PTFs are UY47923/4/5/6.  This
    is a bit of a long shot, because the PTFs are rather old, but we had a
    customer whose problems were fixed by this.

There may also be a problem with VBS format datasets, and we are looking
on that, but have been unable to reproduce it.

We understand the requirement for timestamps in messages, and you can
expect to see a solution in the not-too-distant future.

Bill Rubin
IBM TJ Watson Research
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:52:06 EDT
From:         Kent Fiala <SNOKLF@VM.SAS.COM>
Subject:      multiple FTP servers
X-To:         IBM TCP/IP List <IBMTCP-L@pucc.Princeton.EDU>

I just noticed that the "Planning and Customization" manual describes
setting up more than one FTP server.  I don't get it.  How do the servers
keep out of each others' way?  And what determines which one handles
any particular client?

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Kent Fiala <snoklf@vm.sas.com>
SAS Institute Inc., Cary NC 27513 USA                 919-677-8000 x6646
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:18:08 PDT
From:         Byron Chun <byron@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Replacing 7171
X-To:         IBMTCP-L@pucc.princeton.edu
              Senior Systems Programmer" at Apr 6, 92 4:13 pm

>
> I am not a TCP/IP, communications literate person so please bear with me one
> this question.
>
> Is there a way to replace an IBM 7171 with pc based system or ? to support
> packages such as PROCOMM, etc. and also support XMODEM, ZMODEM etc.
>
> We have been doing some work with a pc based UNIX system but we are having
> problems "talking" to the IBM VM based host. In a dial up mode we are able to
> print files on a pc printer via TPRINT, and file transfer via PCTRANS but this
> limits what type of pc based communications software an end user can use. We
> currently supply them with "home grown" software and would like to get away
> from this.
>
> If this is not the right list for this question please let me know which is.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill Webber
> bwebber@onet.edu
>
Hello Bill,
  I gather from your note that you are trying to allow users to
dial in from home (or wherever) with their PC's to your VM system.
Additionally, you want them to be able to transfer files to and
from your VM system remotely.  Finally, you want to have a similar
setup at work (or at least the same features) with standard software.

I hope I did not miss anything.  I think you can use a standard
package like KERMIT (from Columbia University) to do the remote
access part.  This is the package we use (it is available for a
nominal fee and runs on just about any platform) for all of our
PC, MAC, Clones, mainframes...

The Kermit package emulates a VT102 type terminal, Tektronics 4010,
and H-19 terminals.  It will run on serial, or netbios workstations.

Without more information about your dataswitch, modems, and other
communications products, I can only guess how you are set up.

I hope this helps.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:57:51 EDT
From:         "Robert H. Curtis" <RHCURTIS@ATLVMIC1.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      "The TCP/IP Connection" Newsletter
X-To:         IBMTCP-L%PUCC.BITNET@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu

Ref:  Your note of Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:03:27 EDT

I have just printed out a copy of the newsletter.  I will give it to
Charlie Richburg to deliver to David Nessl.

thanks,
Robert
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