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From: nf@archers.cs (Nick Floros)
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Subject: Re: Erwtisi yia tis ellinikes fregates "Meco200".
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In article 8709@latcs1.lat.oz.au, jd@latcs1.lat.oz.au (John Dimogotsis)
 writes:
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>	Mias kai egine logos gia tis tourkikes fregates typou "Barbaross" prin
>ligo kairo sto 'scg', ithela na rwtisw an kaneis gnwrizei ti ginetai me tis
>ellinikes fregates tou idiou tipou?
>	Mehri persi ta sxedia to Ellinikou nautikou itan i apoktisi "4" pliwn
>(to '93 '95 '96 '97 simfona me to "Janes-warships"). Alla twra akousa tin 
>prothesi tis kibernisis na apoktisi "3" epipleon "Kontenear", afto ti na 
>simeni, nauagise i prospathia kataskeuis twn "Meco200"?

Nomizw oti oi fregates tipou "Kontenear" (Elli and Limnos) eivai epiplaiwn 
twn Meco 200. To kata poso swsti eivai afti n apofasn eivai mia alln erwtisn.
To lew afto giati thimame eva artho pou diabasa stnv Ptisn priv merika xrovia
pou elege oti kales oi "Kontenear", alla exoun sxediastei perisotero 
gia epixeirisis ston Antlantiko para gia kleistes thalases tipou Aigaiou. 

Parola auta n prosthesei triwn fregatwn eivai kali apofasn mias kai to 
elliniko  vautiko eivai gemato apo plia tou 2 World War, kai ta opia sigoura
then tha mporesoun va avtapekselthou se eva moderno polemo.

>	An nai tote auto einai poly lipiro, giati oi tourkoi einai ikanoi na 
>kataskeuasoun eva swro poliploka systimata (p.x. F16, Meco200, T209-submarine)
>eno emeis tipota, ektos apo kati mikro piraulakatous (FAC) kai antiaeroporika
>(Artemis30, Velos). Kai opws edeiyan prosfatoi polemoi i iyili technologia
>einai pou kerdizei tin anametrisi metayi dinamewn.

Osov afora tis piraulakatous miv vomiseis oti eivai axristes, Exouv tin 
divatotita va kratisouv to tourkiko vautiko sta limavia tou, av tous dwthei 
i swstn aeroporikoi kalipsn. Episeis to oti eivai micres tis kavei diskolus
stoxous, evw tautoxrova eukola mporouv va kriftouv se microus kolpous kai
o sxetika megalos arithmos tous tis kavei expendable se sigrisei me
mia fregata. To mono problima tous eivai n sxetika adynatic aeroporikoi 
amiva eidika se periptwsn piraulikis epithesis (blepe Gluf opou bretavika
elikoptera bithisave oles tis sxdwv tis piraulakatous tou irak me poli palias 
texnologias piraulous)

To oti oi tourkoi kataskeuasoun F16 ktl den seimevei tipote. Autes eivai 
perisotero screw drive operations para apotelesma topikou R&D. Topiko R&D 
ntan oi kataskeuei tou Artemis 30 to opio omws ntav gemato apo texvika 
kai dioikitika problimata kai eixe san apotelesma tin xreokopia tis EBO sto
Aigaio. Episeis i suberifora twv ergatwv dev boithise tiv katastasn a bit.

Kai emeis tha eixame tin dinatotita va sivarmologousame F-16 kai Mirage 2000
an eixame agorasei eva sebastw arithmo o opoios kavei tiv dimiourgia gramn
paragwgeis oikonomika biwsimn. Antis n tote kivervisn apofasise va
agorasei 40 Mirage 2000 kai 40 F16, gai va miv exartwmaste apokleistika
apo amerikanika opla. H apofasoi ntav swstei alla o arithmos itan micros kai
den mas epetrepse va dimiourgisoume diki mas paragogn. Apo tin alli pleura omws
oi aeroporia apoktise dio typous aeroskafwn ta opoia exouv parwmia apostolei
alla xriaswvte diaforetika exartimata sivtirisi kai opla, etsi i aeroporia ksodeuei lefta ta idia paragmata. Episeis otav upograftike n perifimn agora
tou aiwva (1), dev mporesav va prothlepsoun oti ta 180 tourkika F16 tha
alaksouv tin isoropoia divameov sto Aigaio, etsi twra eimaste avagasmevoi oxi
movo va pervoume to option gia extra 20 F16 alla kai va paragelvoume 40
kaivourgia.


(1) Arxika oi agora tou aiwva ntav gia 120+ aeroplana , kai n opia evtws 
aksize tnv ovomasia "Agora tou aiwva".

Nikos

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  Nick Floros
  Concurrent Computation Group,
  Department of Electronics & Computer Science
  University of Southampton,
  Southampton, SO9 5NH
  U.K.

  e-mail : nf@uk.ac.soton.ecs

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