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From: kers0205@elan.glassboro.edu (CHUCK KERSHENBLATT)
Subject: Re: henry miller
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:26:40 GMT

In article <wPeguB2w165w@clovis.felton.ca.us> Timothy Bowden <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US> writes:
>Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:25:55 PST
>From:         Timothy Bowden <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US>
>Subject: Re: henry miller
>Oh, yes, Henry Miller.  I am also naomi seeger about Henry Miller.
>A pal of mine (Trigger?) was a big fan, as was a certain feminist
>of the old school, the sort who was always late because she would
>only drive on roads built completely by women.
>
>Two more diverse characters I never could imagine, linked only
>in their admiration of Henry.
>
>I suspect the old Gertrude Stein/James Joyce birdnest-on-the-
>ground dynamic working here. 
Birdnest on the ground? 

 For instance, how many Miller-
>philes have read and can tell me what was in _Black Spring_?
>I thought so.
>How many have read Black Spring? Can tell you what was in it? O.K., I get 
it. That's supposed to be some sort of sarcasm. Or maybe not.

>In class, you 
will be assigned _Dubliners_ or _Autobiography>of Alice B Toklas_ rather 
than _Ulysses_ or _Making of>Americans_, and folks will want to open _Tropic 
of Cancer_>or one of the other more accessible tomes of Henry's
>rather than one of his more recondite readers...
>I'm very confused now, Tim, maybe you could help me... what are you TALKING 
about? Henry's recondite readers? Are you referring to Letters To Emil?>-
Timmie>
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From:         jacqueline van willigen <JVANW01@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Search for story
              16 Nov 1992 12:40:23 -0600 from <PGALLAGH@LIFE.JSC.NASA.GOV>

Occuranceat Owl Creek Bridge appears in many high school anthologies and is ava
ilable on video.  You could probably borrow it from a school near you.  We purc
hased ours from a cheapo catalog called Video yesteryear.  It won an academy aw
ard and Cannes.  It came out about 1962.  Jackie.
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From:         steve <SPAM@TAMVM1.BITNET>
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              17 Nov 1992 06:46:46 PST from <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US>

Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
   Babette's Feast
Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
   Babette's Feast
Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge

          To the Lighthouse
          To the Lighthouse

Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
   Babette's Feast
Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
   Babette's Feast
Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge

                   --by S.R. Harris
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From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Henry
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My impression is that when Henry had a rating, it was in spite of his
"philosophy," and _Black Spring_ was always cited as the weakest of his
books. The two Tropics were praised for the energy of colloquial language,
and his own brand of iconoclasm. Since he'd come from such a sexually
prudish (extremely so) background, his personal freedom depended upon
overcoming sexual shame and guilt--the result, in that time, does not look
the same to us now as it did to Henry then. There is a lot of good writing
in the Tropics, but whether he is ever taken seriously again will depend
upon whether people will be able to tolerate the sexism.
Michael McColl (That's worded poorly. Of course they shouldn't tolerate
the sexism--I mean whether their intolerance of the skepticism will allow
them to enjoy other aspects of his work).
Michael McColl
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Or:

Occurrence at Babbette's Owl Feast Creek Lighthouse Bridge .
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From:         "Kristin J. Garau" <garaukj@AC.WFUNET.WFU.EDU>
Subject: Re: henry miller
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 henry is overated.
From: tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US (Timothy Bowden)
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Oh, yes, Henry Miller.  I am also naomi seeger about Henry Miller.
A pal of mine (Trigger?) was a big fan, as was a certain feminist
of the old school, the sort who was always late because she would
only drive on roads built completely by women.

Two more diverse characters I never could imagine, linked only
in their admiration of Henry.

I suspect the old Gertrude Stein/James Joyce birdnest-on-the-
ground dynamic working here.  For instance, how many Miller-
philes have read and can tell me what was in _Black Spring_?
I thought so.

In class, you will be assigned _Dubliners_ or _Autobiography
of Alice B Toklas_ rather than _Ulysses_ or _Making of
Americans_, and folks will want to open _Tropic of Cancer_
or one of the other more accessible tomes of Henry's
rather than one of his more recondite readers...

-Timmie

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If men instead of women were required to suffer the pains of parturition there
wouldn't be enough people left on earth in two hundred years to organize a
base-ball nine....  The fact of the matter is that man wouldn't have amounted
to much had not the Creator sent woman to steer the miserable savage against
the tree of knowledge and shoulder nine-tenths of his trouble, while he's
snorting like a mad bull over the remainder and imagining himself a hero.
I'm very fond of the ladies -- but I wouldn't be one of them for the world.
      -- William Cowper Brann, "The Iconoclast," circa 1897
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From:         Tom Frenkel <FRENKEL@CPMAIL-AM.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: henry miller
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> Date:          Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:05:35 GMT
> From:          "CHUCK KERSHENBLATT" <kers0205@ELAN.GLASSBORO.EDU>

> has anyone read the collection Letters To Emil? I just found it, and am
> interested to see if there are any Miller lovers out there. ...

I've never read _Letters To Emil_.  But a few months ago I found a
copy of _Tropic of Cancer_ at our friendly Broadway sidewalk book
dealer (1 or 2 dollars, hardcover) and re-read it, and realized how
terrific Miller is (went by me the first time). Is _T of C_ his best?
What else is especially recommendable?  I believe I heard somewhere
that Miller was anti-Semitic, but didn't find any trace of that in
this novel; is there a basis anywhere for this assertion?

    Tom (frenkel@cpmail-am.cis.columbia.edu)
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Subject:      Netiquette
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From:         Elise <EZAPPAS@DREW.DREW.EDU>
Subject:      Splendor in the Grass

                                        Date:     23-Nov-1992 02:58pm EST
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Subject: Splendor in the Grass

William Wordsworth wrote the poem "Intimations of Immortality" in which
the line about "splendored in the grass" is to be found.  Did you see the
movie with Natalie Wood and Warren Beatty?  Pretty hot stuff for its time.

Elise Zappas
EZAPPAS@DREW.DREW.EDU
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From:         Timothy Bowden <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US>
Subject: Re: Search for story
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        LESLIER@uscn.bitnet writes:

>      "Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" by Ambrose Bierce.

That does it.  I warned you guys.

Say, maybe somebody could remind me of a title.  What was
the name of the story of the boys cast off on a secluded
island reverting back to a primitive state?  Featured an
eerie corpse rising with the wind in his chute...

And what was all this about `Rosebud' in _Citizen Kane_?

And, while I have your attention, wasn't there an old
story of a kid and a slave runaway on a raft down the
Mississippi?

Let's not be exclusive, now, no Email.  I'm sure the whole
list would be proud to learn both the titles I'm seeking
and of your cleverness in producing them.

-Uncle Timmie's ApresMoiLeDeluge Carnival
 of the ridiculous and the ridiculouser..

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From:         Graham Wolff Christian <GRAHAM@HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: To THe Lighthouse
              16 Nov 1992 15:44:22 -0500 from <M_RICKER@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

I have seen the videocassette you mention available for rental at a local Video
smith here in Cambridge, though that may not help you much at such a distance.
You might want to call PBS Video or the Annenberg/CPB Foundation for informatio
n on its current availability.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:34:08 PST
From:         Timothy Bowden <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US>
Subject: Re: henry miller
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        CHUCK KERSHENBLATT <kers0205@elan.glassboro.edu> writes:

> In article <wk9HuB2w165w@clovis.felton.ca.us> Timothy Bowden
> <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US> writes:
> >
> >Hello.  This is Waffle's auto-respond service for
> >
> >     Uncle Timmie
> >
> >He is not available right now, but expects the answer to your
> >question to be:
> >
> >  Incident at Owl Creek Bridge
> >  Babette's Feast
> >
> >If your answer is not among these suggestions, Timmie will return
> >with a detailed response as time permits.  Here's his sig now.
> >
Go ahead Uncle Timmie (Waffle), tell me more.

Very well.

Huck Finn
Lord of the Flies
Rosebud was the name of his sled.

If you require further questions, please be sure they
are in the form of answers.  We now return you to your
broadcasting station.

-Uncle Timmie's AutoReverb WaffleWog (pat pend)

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:35:54 -0500
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Subject: Re: henry miller

Uncle Timmie, I dig your approach to posting these days, and I'm not even
reading *Dharma Bums* of late.

Bumming Avalokitesvara out,
michael mcdonald
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Subject:      Quote of the Day
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Let's face it.  There are certain things in life which make life worth living,
and one of these things is Python.  Especially to someone like me.  When you've
gone through so much in life, and you're supposed to decide what is real and
what isn't, you watch the television and you see all this madness going on,
and everyone is being serious and accepting it, and you're ready to bang your
head on the wall in despair -- then someone says "And now for something
completely different!"  That saves the day.          -- George Harrison
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From:         "Lana Brown, VIARC, IRD" <VIAEM105@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Splendor in the grass
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From:    Lana Brown, VIARC, IRD
Could someone please tell me what poet wrote that piece about "splendor in the
grass." Lots of movie-makers seem to like it. I just saw _A River Runs through
It_, and it is recited in one scene.
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From:         USCRED@UNC.BITNET
Subject: Re: Search for story

Thank you, one and all.

Naturally, about five minutes after I posted I recalled the title.

Damn tumor!

Anyway, the plaguing's over.

Thanks again,

Michael McKenna.
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From: kers0205@elan.glassboro.edu (CHUCK KERSHENBLATT)
Subject: henry miller
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:21:43 GMT

>
>> has anyone read the collection Letters To Emil? I just found it, and am
>> interested to see if there are any Miller lovers out there. ...
>
>I've never read _Letters To Emil_.  But a few months ago I found a
>copy of _Tropic of Cancer_ at our friendly Broadway sidewalk book
>dealer (1 or 2 dollars, hardcover) and re-read it, and realized how
>terrific Miller is (went by me the first time). Is _T of C_ his best?
>What else is especially recommendable?  I believe I heard somewhere
>that Miller was anti-Semitic, but didn't find any trace of that in
>this novel; is there a basis anywhere for this assertion?
>
>    Tom (frenkel@cpmail-am.cis.columbia.edu)
>I think T of C IS his best, it is certainly his most explosive. In letters 
to Emil he refers to it as The Paris Book, the book where he'd "fuck 
everything" meaning especially art, literature, and everything else that 
seemed to hold him him back in his first two novels (recently published, 
terribly written, a strangely contrained Miller searching for his voice... 
On the anti-semetism... Miller grew up in a section of Brooklyn which soon 
took on quite a lot of new jewish immigrants, and he somehow took this as an 
affront to his childhood memories... BUT, Miller was a complex guy, full of 
contradictions, and he often lashed out at that which he admired, loved. He 
lived with Alfred Perles in Paris, Clichy (Carl in Cancer), who was Jewish; 
he spent a great deal of his longest work (The Rosy Crucifixion) going to 
extraordinary lengths not only defending Jewish people, culture... but 
actually saying not a few times that he though he was Jewish... AND, he 
married the June Smith (Mona), THE most important woman in his life, who was 
also Jewish. 
	People often quote Miller out of context to prove he was this or 
that. I feel that the anti-semetic charge is deeply unfair (the two recent 
horrible biographers toyed with it). At one point, very early in his career, 
pre-Paris, he WAS given to saying quite offensive stuff... but he changed, 
genuinely. Also, he was known to be more hostile to "gentile" culture than 
anyting else.
	Tom, if you liked Cancer, pick up the Emil letters! They're 
marvelous!
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Subject:      Re: To THe Lighthouse
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          A video store in the Philadelphia area carries it.  The
          place is called "Movies Unlimited."  You can order it there
          and they'll mail it to you.  Let me know if you need more
          information.
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From:         "(Thomas Bontrager)" <tbont@EP.IEEE.ORG>
Subject:      Search for story...
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Michael McKenna writes:

----- Begin Included Message -----

Can someone tell me the title and author of story which I've only
ever encountered as a short movie?  It was done in black and
white some years ago (I think), and won some sort of major award
for a film short.  The storyline is as follows:  a man is about
to be hanged and dreams of the rope snapping and swimming down-
stream and returning to his previous life.  The film ends with him
coming to as the plank is pulled and we see him swinging from
down below the bridge.

Thanks,

Michael McKenna


----- End Included Message -----

I think the movie was called "Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge."
From: jdmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Jeffrey D Miller)
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In <LITERARY%92111612405068@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU> USCRED@UNC.BITNET writes:

>Can someone tell me the title and author of story which I've only
>ever encountered as a short movie?  It was done in black and
>white some years ago (I think), and won some sort of major award
>for a film short.  The storyline is as follows:  a man is about
>to be hanged and dreams of the rope snapping and swimming down-
>stream and returning to his previous life.  The film ends with him
>coming to as the plank is pulled and we see him swinging from
>down below the bridge.

>Thanks,
	The name of the story is "An Occurence At Owl Creek Bridge" by 
	Ambrose Bierce.  Great Story!


Jeff






Cheers

Jeff
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From:         JEROMED@FSDEC3.WTP.GTEFSD.COM
Subject:      RE: Search for story...
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I believe the story you're talking about is "Incident at Owl Creek".  It
was written by Ambroise Bierce ("The Devils Dictionary").

Dave Jerome
From: kers0205@elan.glassboro.edu (CHUCK KERSHENBLATT)
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Subject: henry miller
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:05:35 GMT
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey

has anyone read the collection Letters To Emil? I just found it, and am 
interested to see if there are any Miller lovers out there. For me, these 
letters contain the most truthful portrayal of what happened during the 
Paris/Clichy days... The last two years have seen an explosion of Miller 
interest, but I feel much of it has been VERY distorted. Henry and June, 
both the diary and film, were overwhelmed by Anais Nin's often deeply 
wrongheaded interpretation of Miller. And the two biographies last year were 
both incredibly horrid.
	Richard Ellmann once requested to write a biography of Miller... but 
old Henry turned him down! 
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From: kers0205@elan.glassboro.edu (CHUCK KERSHENBLATT)
Subject: Re: henry miller
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:31:46 GMT

In article <wk9HuB2w165w@clovis.felton.ca.us> Timothy Bowden <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US> writes:
>Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:08:31 PST
>From:         Timothy Bowden <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US>
>Subject: Re: henry miller
>        CHUCK KERSHENBLATT <kers0205@elan.glassboro.edu> writes:
>
>> >I'm very confused now, Tim, maybe you could help me... what are you TALKING
>> about? Henry's recondite readers? Are you referring to Letters To Emil?>-
>
>Hello.  This is Waffle's auto-respond service for
>
>     Uncle Timmie
>
>He is not available right now, but expects the answer to your
>question to be:
>
>  Incident at Owl Creek Bridge
>  Babette's Feast
>
>If your answer is not among these suggestions, Timmie will return
>with a detailed response as time permits.  Here's his sig now.
>
>Go ahead Uncle Timmie (Waffle), tell me more. 
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Howdy,

Subscribe:

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From:         Graham Wolff Christian <GRAHAM@HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Search for story...

You mean Ambrose Bierce's "Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge."
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