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Subject: Re: Fugazi Why can't I walk down the street?
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:16:47 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Dec11.035254.10818@wam.umd.edu>, moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:
> In article <1992Dec10.213130.6153@beaver.cs.washington.edu>  
> karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) writes:
>> Is it true that Ian MacKaye is queer?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------
>> ---------------------------
>  Who cares?  Does that make him any less talented?

Or, for that matter, any *more* talented (which is what I interpreted 
the original post as asking)?  

Yeah, who cares?  Fugazi's great... Ian's sexuality has nothing to do with it.

Later,
-- 
Sean C. Duncan, scd@einstein.bgsu.edu :: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
"I will never understand men, but I have lived it through." - Bukowski.
_______________________________________________________________________ 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:04:02 -0500 
From: Chinarut Ruangchotvit <chinman+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: MiniDisc is here!
	<1992Dec15.140959.19570@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>

>	Yeah just like Phillips crashed and burned with CD's huh?  If you
>knew your technology history you would know that Phillips was the company
>that invented digital storage media for music.  They have set the worldwide
>standards.  And even today I have a Magnavox CD player, which has the same
>internals as the Pioneer and one other brands (at least!) CD player.  All
>made by PHILLIPS!  So, don't be surprised if DCC catches on and Sony bites
>the big one.

You should note that Phillips _and_ Sony developed the CD format.  If
you ask me, the MD and DCC are pricey now, but MD seems to have its
merits over DCC, IMHO.




--
Chinarut Ruangchotvit
<cr2p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
<chinman+@cmu.edu>

	"Learning that we're only immortal - for a limited time"
							-Rush, Dreamline
From: ukevc@mcl.ucsb.edu (Petrisse Briel)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Best LP's of '92
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:28:17 GMT


my bloody valentine - loveless
xtc - nonsuch
"one last kiss" comp from spinart

but by the year is usually a sort of uneven way to divide things up.

kevin
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From: damatt01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (David A. Mattingly)
Subject: Re: charleton heston put his vest on...
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:22:19 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

They broke up shortly after Fierce Pancake was released. I found this out
by writing to Stump Stuff.


-- 
        Dave Mattingly              "Who's gonna teach me peace and happiness?" 
damatt01@ulkyvx.ct.louisville.edu   "I was an innocent, now I'm magnificent."
        (502) 584-6707              "Time is money. Sell your watch today."
From: bosman@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk (Steve Bosman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Poppies
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:01:25 GMT
Organization: The Outlaws

In article <1992Dec15.161809.26582@bnr.ca>, toolsrus@bcarh838.bnr.ca (Rev. Willard the Wombat) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> I have all the full length albums except for 'Box Frenzy' (how is it???).
excellent album despite the inherent mysogeny(sp?) of 'inside you' and 'f111 love missile' but has to be listened to if
only for the likes of 'grebo guru' 'time to get ugly' and 'hit the hi-tech groove' (some of the funniest sampling i've
heard -- just wish it didn't leave me humming a mel and kim track all day)                                       
|> Personal favourites: 
|>      'And Now For A Feast'
|>      'This Is The Day, This Is The Hour, This Is This...'
|> 

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|   Oxford Road             |  But I know that I'm okay                   |
|   Manchester              |  'cos you're here with me today             |
|                           |  I haven't got a single problem             |
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From: C.L.Gannon@newcastle.ac.uk (C.L. Gannon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: WHY? (NOT WHY ME?)
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:54:38 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.




        Another little query, I've been listening recently to groups like 
        L7, Nirvana(didn't like them after listening to the whole album) 
        and a couple of others. There is one question that really bothers me
        (and it's not why does J Alfke hate me so much). I used to be really
        into the whole metal thing (anthrax, megadeth etc..), and a lot of these
        groups do sound very similar to them(in particular anthrax) so how
        come it isn't "cool" to like them? Are they just too popular?


         I don't need any arseholes replying to this as it is not a wind up
        it is a serious question.


            LEO
From: watts@csa2.lbl.gov (PAUL N WATTS)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Helmet info
Date: 17 Dec 92 06:37:00 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.197
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec17.005609.17126@news.nd.edu>, gestes@regan.next.nd.edu
(gregory estes) writes...
>	I need your help. In what former bands were the players in Helmet?
>I'd like to here more of their stuff. Any information would make me soooo  
>happy that I'd jiz on the ceiling. 

The latest issue of _Deadline_USA_ has an interview with Helmet, and mentions
that one of the members used to be in Band of Susans and also played with the
Glenn Branca Orchestra.  I forget which member; I don't have my copy handy.
	
>			Greg "No Sig" Estes

Paul
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From: viikari@sara.cc.utu.fi
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: The Hanson Brothers--"Gross Misconduct"
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:55:44 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland


 toolsrus@bcarh838.bnr.ca (Rev. Willard the Wombat) writes:
 
> Anybody give this a listen yet?  Comments.

	I've got the album and it's pretty good. I'm no big Ramones fan
	so I don't like this as much as if I was one. Good punk rock
	album.
 
> BTW The Hanson Brothers are actually Nomeansno + 2 other guys.
> Anybody know anything about the other two?

	The drummer is Ken(neth) No=No's ex-roadie. He also plays drums
	in DOA now. The guitarist is Tom Holliston from Show Biz Giants
	(if I remember correctly).

		No=No will release an lp in jan/feb 93.
				-t-
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: Best LP's of '92
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:43:19 GMT
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Date Entered: 12-13-92 12:35
> From: ukevc@mcl.ucsb.edu (Petrisse Briel)
> Subject: Re: Best LP's of '92
> Date: 13 Dec 92 01:28:17 GMT
> 
> my bloody valentine - loveless
  ...
> but by the year is usually a sort of uneven way to divide things up.
> 
> kevin

Loveless was released in 1991, if I'm not mistaken. (that is what the 
copyright reads on the back of the tape I have).
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From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: strange band names please/+ album name
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:33:16 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu

In article <13904@ecs.soton.ac.uk> sdm91r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stuart Maclean) writes:
>Poop Shovel must be the best band name ever !! Alans (a record shop in
>
>Stuart.

That reminds me of an old and I think now defunct band, the Butt Crusties.

I have experimented with a local band of fellow non-talents who like to call
themselves "Salem's Parking Lot".  The only recording we made we titled
"Smells Like Teenage Fanclub", and we mused about how a record company
would screw it up if we were to decide to go from tape to production a la
"Spinal Tap".  It reminded me of a strange album name that never quite made it:

A band in the '60s called Kaleidoscope intended to come out with an album
titled "Bacon From Mars".  They passed this on to their record company,
and in the infinite wisdom of the record company they decided it must have
been misspelled - so they released the album titled as "Beacon From Mars"
and gave it all this ridiculous cover art of the planet Mars and beacons
of light, etc. - a tragically funny story.  You might still find the evidence of
this error in a used record store - a friend just picked up a copy last week.

greg
From: v22964qs@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike Cluff)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Apologies
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bz94rK.EFM@newcastle.ac.uk>, Neil.Rodgers@newcastle.ac.uk (Neil Rodgers) writes...
>Well, as one of you noticed, all my articles are what's commonly known in the
>trade as a WIND-UP!! 

I think the problem is twofold:

1. Americans have a rough time with irony (and I say this as an American).

2. Non-ironic flamebait posts with the same tone as yours are very, very 
common.


ObAlternative comment:  Stereolab.  God.

******************************************************************************
For God so loved the world that He gave Man Free Will and then got pissed when
we didn't meet his arbitrary standards.  Oh, and he had his Son offed when he
realized how impossible those standards were.  -- Michael 4:23
******************************************************************************
From: pancake@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Daniello)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: R.E.M.'s STIPE
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:08:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I can think of a few songs, "You Woke Up My Neighborhood" by Billy
Bragg, "Dark Green Energy" by Robyn Hitchcock... He sang a few songs
with the Golden Paliminos too...

-- 
/// The Fierce Pancake         ///	"...because you have another eyelid."
/// pancake@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ///			-Galaxie 500
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: What is "alternative"
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:58:27 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Why is it the the idea of a band *changing* is so bad?  The 'Mats changed a
hell of a lot from hootenanny to Pleased to Meet Me.  Westerberg could never
understand why this pissed people off.  Or maybe he did.  I recall an inter-
view where he said that the people who are gonna stop liking you because you
are no longer their secret little hip pocket band can take a hike (paraphrase)
Of course an artist/band is going to change over time.  Change is one of the
few things you can count on in life.  Surely no one would want to listen to
a musician who keeps doing the same thing over and over.  Lighten up and just
listen to the music.  If you like it fine, if it doesn't suit you any more,
don't be bitter, just find something else.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Walt Maley    | 'The ones who love us best, are the ones we'll lay to rest.
GC/MS Chemist |  The ones who love us least, are the ones we'll die to please.
U of Iowa     |  If it's any consolation, I don't pretend to understand them.'
              |                            -Paul Westerberg
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From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Re: songs with the title "rain"
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:02:59 GMT

The family cat - "rain"
Bongwater      - "rain"

( well..didn't the weather prophets have a song called "rain" too ? heee )
From: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: EDDIE VEDDER DEAD
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:38:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 

Ya, I heard it too.  He's dead because he couldn't live with himself.
In his suicide note, he said that he's sorry for repackaging a bunch of
old 70's tunes under the moniker of being "alternative."  He said, and I
quote (i have his suicide note):

"Dear PJ Fans:

You have been bamboozled big time.  We are not alternative.  We just
took obscure 70's records and put them out again, and so I'm sorry for
fooling you.  I'm taking my millions of dollars and giving it to Mark
Goodman's 70's Preservation Society.  Thank you.  And now, if you'll
excuse me....."

That's the truth.  I swear on a stack of 8 track cartridges.
                  
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:19:34 -0500 
From: "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What is "alternative"
	<1992Dec10.113455.61905@cc.usu.edu>

>> I hope to God that none of your favorite bands ever make it big. If they
>> do, you might not be able to bring yourself to abandon them, and then
>> who will you be? Another mainstreamer. 
> 
>	I would never abandon a band who hasn't changed.

That's all that matters, then. Agreed?

I guess I just kind of get a kick out of being able to turn on the radio
and hear 'Say Hello 2 Heaven' by Temple of the Dog (it's on right now).
After years and years of Phil Collins and Whitney Houston, it's nice to
at least have a possibility of hearing a good tune every now and then.

My biggest problem is with Red Hot Chili Peppers fans who *loved* "Blood
Sugar Sex Magik" until this summer when it got big. The music DID NOT
change -- they just played 'Under the Bridge' ad nauseum. Personally, I
don't care if it's some 7th grade class's class song. I still and will
always think it is beautiful. Mainstream or not.

Happy happy holidays to all and see Alice in Chains/Screaming Trees if
you get a chance. I wept.

Megan
------------
I don't need to be forgiven

Megan
---------------------------
I don't need to be forgiven
From: C.L.Gannon@newcastle.ac.uk (C.L. Gannon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: One LETTER band names
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:31:26 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1gbpnjINNms9@life.ai.mit.edu>, dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) writes
  ## stuff deleted##
>
>PS> B-52's and L7 don't count!  ONE LETTER!
>--
>dmb@ai.mit.edu           MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory                  
>ADVENTIONS: interactive fiction (text adventures) for the 90's!
>dmb@ai.mit.edu *** Compu$erve: 76440,2671 *** GEnie: ADVENTIONS


     So does this mean I can't submit U2 ??


      LEO (still here, still alive).
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Neil Rodgers Fan Club
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:54:19 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


Ok kids, here is your chance.  Post your favorite story/joke concerning
this flame baiter at your leisure.

wjm
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pixies question
From: S954161@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:32:40 CST
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS
NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.124.1.2

  I saw an interview with the Pixies about the difference between Bossanova
and their other albums. Bossanova was their first album recorde out of Boston
and they were living in apartments in Los Angeles. It was a combination of
the new place with the major-label-debut-thing was their reason for it being
a lot less "hard" than their others. Bossanova, imho, is as good as their
others for different reasons. Its mellownes is cool.
 
  "Head On" was recorded because it was playing in Boston for a long time
when they were starting out in Boston. Trompe Le Monde seems to be their
"retrospective" album (Umass as another memory song)
 
  As for whether you should buy their albums. I personally like every song
they ever done. They are perhaps one of the most prolific, solid muscicians
in alternative music today. They mix up there sound and they're not afraid
to do new things. That's what I like in a band...the ability to do music
and to attempt to grow in that music. The Pixies are one of the very, very
few bands who attempt to do this. I've seen them live 3 times and Joey
 Santiago is one of the most underated guitarists around!
 
End of Soapbox......
 
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From: brian@nx33.mik.uky.edu (Brian hoffman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: New Order flexi disc
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:45:51 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

> As for rarity:  I'll give you some $$ for it...  I've seen a few
> copies but no one wants to trade...
> 
> ..s.
> --
> - so spake lancer@wpi.wpi.edu -                 - so spews Lard: -
> -              I am your clock.  I am your religion.             -
> -         I am your shotgun mechanical bride.  I own you.        -

Well, I just got it, so I don't think I'll be selling it :).  I was just  
curious as to how hard it was to find.
-Brian
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: Observation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:48:26 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

For possibly the first time ever, I tend to agree with you LEO.  The cure is
different to be sure, but alternative?  I tend to think the same about REM.
I guess this is (IMHO) based mostly on popularity (read 'airplay').  Please
note that this is not a commentary on the quality of either band, just a 
filing question.

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Walt Maley    | 'The ones who love us best, are the ones we'll lay to rest.
GC/MS Chemist |  The ones who love us least, are the ones we'll die to please.
U of Iowa     |  If it's any consolation, I don't pretend to understand them.'
              |                            -Paul Westerberg
wmaley@alchemy|
uhl.uiowa.edu|    -Setters do it with their hands
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel)
Subject: Re: lemonheads ?
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
	<15DEC92.23100375@vax.clarku.edu>
	<joebg.724466791@pv6804.vincent.iastate.edu>
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:17:57


Is "Lick" unavailable ? Odd indeed. I bought the CD in the U.S earlier
this year. That was at Tower Records in Boston, and it was in
mid-August. And last week, when I was in Paris [U.S. netters, please
note: this was Paris, France and not Paris, Texas] I saw two (2)
copies of "Lick" that the FNAC in Forum des Halles. One had a b/w
cover photo and one track less than the other copy (sporting a colour
cover photo.)

- Hans


--
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Mathematics and Computer Science
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From: A.L.Radtke@bradford.ac.uk (Drew Radtke)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rave,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Cabaret Voltaire discography v1.1
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:13:50 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: s3535@mail

vidarh@cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen) writes:
>                          CABARET VOLTAIRE DISCOGRAPHY 
>                                 Vidar Hanssen
>
>Please send corrections, additions and comments to vidarh@cs.uit.no

Ok Vidar; got an obscure one here. Stephen Mallinder did vocals on one
track on an LP which came out in about 1989 or 90 called 'Till Things
Are Brighter'. It was an LP to raise money for the AIDS charity, the
Terence Higgins Trust here in the UK. Lots of various indie-ish artists
did lead vocals on tracks on the LP, which was made up totally of covers
of Johnny Cash songs. Apart from Mallinder there was Marc Almond, Marc
Reily, Tracy and Mellisa Beehive, Pete Shelley, Michelle Shocked oh and
a few others.

The idea was all the vocallists used the same 'house' band which was set
up for the LP. My copy is elsewhere at the moment but I'll mail you with
the catalogue number and the name of the track he did. I can remember it
came out on In Tape records who have now gone bust so it'll be very hard
to get.

It is, needless to say, quite an excellent work.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: att (Bob R)
Subject: Re: alt.music.alternative
Organization: nnn
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:39:56 GMT

In article <5404.1618.uupcb@synapse.org>, stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas)  writes:
> 
> BR>No harm intended.  :)   BTW, I had a chance to see Ed Kuepper (with
> BR>'the aints') in Melbourne, Aus. last year but was leaving for the
> BR>States the next day and decided not to go.  Mistake!!!  Did anyone see this
> 
> You bet it was a mistake... big time!  :-)  I'm not sure if The Saints,
> Ed Kuepper or Chris Bailey ever played in North America, so you may not have
> a chance to see...

Yeah, they did.  :)  I saw them twice at Maxwells: ca. 1986-87, and again
recently (within in the last couple of years).  I think it was promoted
as some sort of 'reunion' gig (or maybe it was 'returning to America
after - years...')

Thanks for the comments about the Chris Bailey albums!

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