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From: mgaudrea@afit.af.mil (Michele L.D. Gaudreault)
Subject: Re: Home Birth and Midwife article
Keywords: Home Birth, Midwives
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:12:26 GMT

In article <19vsb6INNaag@gap.caltech.edu> hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough) writes:
>In article <31045@goofy.Apple.COM> winner@Apple.COM (Stephanie Winner) writes:
>>I recently came across an article about Home births which I
>>found very compelling.  If any of you are considering having
>>a home delivery I would highly recommend it.  It is titled,
>>
>>Some of the topics which are covered are:
>>
>>- several studies which show that "midwife-attended or home
>>	births have outcomes as good as or better than physician-
>>	attended or hospital births."
>
>I've seen some of these studies, I think.  While there may be a lot
>to said for midwife-attended and home births, there is one thing to
>keep in mind, though:  In my experience, the women who opt for
>home birth especially tend to be those who are unlikely to have
>complications because they have already had one relatively
>uncomplicated delivery. 

These are the best candidates for it.

>First time mothers and women who have
>had difficult deliveries are not likely to want to try a home birth.
>I KNOW there are exceptions to this, but in general, there may be
>a selection process that works to give rise to misleading statistics.
>
The studies are done on comparable populations to avoid misleading
statistics.  The studies are important because they help support
those people who feel that a home birth is the safest option for them.
"Homebirthers" tend to be really informed about what they're doing
and why  -- they're not doing it because "it's neat" or cool or "in"
or whatever.
We were lucky that we were able to find a midwife to attend
our home birth -- otherwise we would have had to go to the hospital,
which was the less safe alternative *IN OUR CASE*.  Unfortunately, our
"insurance" (i.e., the military), didn't see it that way, so we had
to pay out of pocket.  Good thing home births are cheap!

Bottom line -- women (and their partners) who desire homebirths
should be supported by their hospitals and insurance companies -- not
have to wage war to get what they want or do it "on the sly".


Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: elonich@cbnewse.cb.att.com (diane.e.pedersen)
Subject: Re: one year olds (Thanks)
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville IL
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:48:10 GMT
Summary: duplos

In article <9209280133.AA16576@fieser.brynmawr.edu>, chirlian@fieser.brynmawr.edu (L.E. Chirlian) writes:
> 
> 	1)  Libby's birthday is coming up this week and he's been
> trying to convince me that she wants the Lego Motorized Airport
> Shuttle Set.  (I know what I'll be getting Jerry for his birthday!)
> 

Get Libby a bucket of Duplos or Tycos.   They're a fun unisex toy
for all ages -- infant to adult.  (Infants teethe on them, toddlers
love taking structures apart, 2-year-olds and up build things).
My 7-year-old still loves Duplos (he likes Legos, too, but only
the Duplos are allowed in the den where the toddler has free acess).
And my husband and I prefer building with Duplos to many 
other parent-child activities our son might suggest (like playing
Candyland -- aarghh, make some coffee!)

I gave Duplos buckets to my 1-year-old nieces at Christmas and 
they both like them.  And the Duplos are favorites with visiting kids.

(No, I don't own stock in Lego/Duplo, though I ought to from 
teh number of times I've plugged them on misc.kids!)
-- 
Diane Pedersen
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
att!ihlpe!elonich
From: vrs0@bunny.gte.com (V. Stern)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: table corner guards??
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:58:14 GMT
Organization: GTEL

> In article <1992Oct1.013029.5449@Princeton.EDU>
> smaxwell@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Sara Maxwell) writes:>  
> >
> >I have heard that they make some sort of cover or guard that you can put
> >on sharp table corners etc so little toddlers do not whap their heads.
> >What are these things called?  Does anyone know where

We have the ones made by The First Years, although a number of companies 
put them out.  They are stuck on with double-sided sticky tape, but it 
doesn't hold too well.  The first time Matthew saw them, he pulled them 
right off.  Friends of ours resorted to screwing them to the table, but we 
don't want to do this as the whole point was to be able to remove them 
without marks.  We finally gave up and have had no problems.  What have 
other people done?  I would call The First Years, but I've already 
returned two of their products and they are soon going to think I'm a nut!!

Vanessa R. Stern
vrs0@bunny.gte.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mgaudrea@afit.af.mil (Michele L.D. Gaudreault)
Subject: Re: How to get daughter more career-minded?
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:03:50 GMT

Teresa's post really hit home for me...

In article <16870D446.CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Teresa Creech) writes:
>I just had to comment after I read the post about the little girl who wants to
>grow up to be a wife and mother.  This isn't necessarily a bad thing.
> 
Amen.

>Yes, it is possible to mix career and family.  But, it is extremely difficult
> 
Yep.

>I grew up with parents who said "When you go to college." and "When you have
>a job." - It never occurred to me not to do this.  

yep.
> 
>I am so very tired.  My biggest wish is to have just one evening where I
>could sit down at 8 pm and KNOW that EVERYTHING that needed to be done is done.
>I don't mean everything that should get done, I mean the necessities.
> 
Me, too.

If I were a stay-at-home mom, I could be a LLL leader.  I could finally
sew that teddy-bear together that's been sitting in the closet,  I could
sew clothes, I could cook decent meals more often, maybe I could even
answer a few letters...  (I can hear all the stay-at-home moms now ---
yeah, right.  You're lucky if you can get the laundry done :))

If the little girl wants to be a stay-at-home mom, great!!  Be happy
that your grandchildren are being raised by an intelligent woman.

Michele
From: bl@pacersoft.com (Bill)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Birthday Ideas (in need of)
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:35:59 GMT
Organization: Pacer Software, Inc.

Hello to all who have done this several times already. :-)  My son will be
turning 2 this November and my wife and I are trying to come up with a few
fun things for the kids to do during the party.
I would REALLY appreciate any input you may have on birthday party ideas to
make my sons b-day a memorable ad fun day.

Thanks in advance,
Bill (father to Chase 22 months)
From: arodgers@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Angus H Rodgers)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: table corner guards??
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:23:34 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <2635@ceylon.gte.com> vrs0@bunny.gte.com (V. Stern) writes:

>> In article <1992Oct1.013029.5449@Princeton.EDU>
>> smaxwell@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Sara Maxwell) writes:>  
>> >
>> >I have heard that they make some sort of cover or guard that you can put
>> >on sharp table corners etc so little toddlers do not whap their heads.
>> >What are these things called?  Does anyone know where

>We have the ones made by The First Years, although a number of companies 
>put them out.  They are stuck on with double-sided sticky tape, but it 
>doesn't hold too well.  The first time Matthew saw them, he pulled them 
>right off.  Friends of ours resorted to screwing them to the table, but we 
>don't want to do this as the whole point was to be able to remove them 
>without marks.  We finally gave up and have had no problems.  What have 
>other people done?  I would call The First Years, but I've already 
>returned two of their products and they are soon going to think I'm a nut!!

>Vanessa R. Stern
>vrs0@bunny.gte.com

We got some from Mothercare, and the adhesive was useless (or at
any rate I couldn't work out how to use it). So we used little
pieces of foam which are sticky on both sides - I think they're
called "Sellofix". (Dunno, because I lost the packet.) They feel 
pretty permanently stuck.
--
Angus H. Rodgers  (PhD student), | arodgers@dcs.qmw.ac.uk  
Dept. of Computer Science, Queen | [ +44 | 0 ] 71 975 5241   
Mary & Westfield College,  Mile  | This space has not been left blank,
End Rd., London E1 4NS, England  | intentionally or otherwise.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: betsyp@apollo.hp.com (Betsy Perry)
Subject: Re: Room Temp for Sleeping Infants
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:27:27 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Sep30.174742.4985@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> sueg@ssec.wisc.edu (Sue Gorski) writes:
>
>
>We have a programmable thermostat and in the past have set the night/sleep temp
>to be 55 degrees.  While I think this may be too low for an infant, 70 degrees
>seems a bit too high in the spirit of energy conservation.

We kept our born-in-September baby in a house that didn't go above 60 degrees;
a blanket sleeper over her regular clothes kept her nice and toasty.
(An electric-heated waterbed keeps *us* nice and toasty.)

I seem to remember that in the recent Australian study on SIDS (the one
that said sleeping on the stomach was bad) also said that SIDS was
commoner in infants who slept in warm rooms.  I forget what the
definition of "warm" was, but I suspect 70 degrees would qualify.
-- 
Betsy Hanes Perry   (note P in userid)     betsyp@apollo.hp.com
Hewlett-Packard Company
"It seems to us that the readers who want fiction to be like life are
considerably outnumbered by those who would like life to be like fiction."
From: sandy@anasaz (Sandy Young)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Kid Seats on Bikes
Date: 25 Sep 92 22:43:28 GMT
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Az

In article <1992Sep23.162831.12366@samba.oit.unc.edu> heidia@med.unc.edu (Heidi Aycock) writes:
>anyone out there have advice on choosing and using a child seat
>on a bike? At what age can a child start riding? What are some
>treacherous condition to watch out for? Is there a way to make
>the helmet a fun thing (we haven't started this adventure yet,
>so my 18-month-old son doesn't know anything about helmets and
>such).

 We bought a Fischer bike seat (I think) for our son when he
 was about 10 months old. (Look for the bike seat that has
 extended side rails) Of all the models, this one seemed the
 safest. It has a head rest that is pretty high and the side
 rails will keep the bike seat from squishing the baby between
 it and the ground should the bike fall over. 

 He loves it!!
 He is now 18 months, and for a while, we couldn't walk past the
 bike without him wanting to go for a ride.

 We started out with a helmet, and it has never been a problem.

 Good luck!


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>
>Thanks.
>Heidi.
>.
>
From: johnk@consilium.com (Sean Keeler)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: UN Convention on the Rights of the Child
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:17:26 GMT
Organization: Consilium, Inc.
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
X-XXDate: Thu, 1 Oct 92 10:17:57 GMT

What are the reasons the US has thus far failed to agree to this
particular UN convention?  I understand that there are two major
stumbling blocks:
 
1)  Children in the military.  Convention prohibits under-18 combatants. 
The US permits 17-year-olds with parental permission, or as emancipated
monors, to enlist.
 
2)  Juvenile justice.  Convention limits punishments for child offenses. 
The US permits minors to be tried and punished as adults, though
admittedly on a case-by-case basis.
 
Are these points correct?  What other reservations might the US have to
the convention?  Where can I get a copy of the actual treaty proposal?
 
Thanks.
 
Sean
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: Randy.Morey%bbs@actcnews.res.utc.com (Randy Morey)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 14:45:49 EDT
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Subject: Re: Washing Diapers with Tide
Distribution: world
X-Posting-Software: UnixBBS 1.02a S/N 190921

In message <BvAyAv.EH6@world.std.com> dated Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:04:06 GMT
rgering@world.std.com (Rebecca J Gering) writes:

> A friend who just had a baby is considering using Tide Ultra Free to
> wash cloth diapers instead of Dreft (which I've always heard is the
> recommended detergent).
> 
> Does anyone know if Tide Ultra Free is comparable to (i.e., as safe
> as) Dreft?  If it is I'd like to give it a try as it's much cheaper
> than Dreft (which is why she's considering it, too).
> 
> Thanks.
> Becky Gering (rgering@world.std.com)

We have been using Fresh Start for 5 years now. We're in our 7th big year of
washing diapers, with hopefully one more to go! (Kids ages 7, 5, 3, 1).
We buy the stuff in 5-gallon pails at BJ's wholesale outlet. Each pail does
144 loads, and we go through one every 3 months. Cost: $18/pail. Each load
uses 1/4 cup. It prevents stains, and we have no problem with diaper rash.

Randy Morey
United Technologies Research Center
East Hartford, CT
"Those who play the sax play twice!"

--
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E-Mail: Randy.Morey%bbs@actcnews.res.utc.com
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   Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent UTC.
From: wallis@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Mindy Wallis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Tilted Uterus Problem
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:27:59 GMT
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences

In article <1992Sep25.143455.119319@marshall.wvnet.edu>,
edf003@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
> 
> I have a friend who's uterus is tilted and she has tried to get pregnant for
> about a year now.  Do any of you know of any way how she may use a procedure to
> help her get pregnant.  
> 
> Any help with this matter would be greatly appreciated.

I'll say it now and I'll say it as many times as necessary: a tilted or
tipped uterus is not in itself a cause of infertility.  If your friend has
tried for a year with no result she should see an infertility specialist. 
The cause (if any) is almost certainly something besides the angle of her
uterus.

-------
Mindy
wallis@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu
Institute for the Learning Sciences
Northwestern University
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: IT IS A GIRL!
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:06:01 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

I just got the amnio results, and it is a girl! Her name is 

	Emma Sophia Manning

I will post birthdate, weight, height, etc in about 5 months.

Laura Floom
Evan Manning (manning@alumni.caltech.edu)
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From: INGA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Inga Karliner)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med,chi.general
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:36:10 GMT
 <1992Oct1.130847.7837@ll.mit.edu> <aidler.718259472@sanjuan>
 <1992Oct5.071027.25468@spdcc.com>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Two items regarding post from
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
1. Mr Dyer, please use HELP READ ETIQUETTE next time
   you are moved to write.
2. If, as Mr Dyer recommends, ridalin is supposed to be so uniformly
   helpful, Mr Dyer is not giving a very good testimony to its
   effectiveness  in his out very impulsive letter.
From: US29923@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (Mary Ann Monnin)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: table corner guards??
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:46:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: VM.16873DDD0.US29923
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY

In article <1992Oct1.013029.5449@Princeton.EDU>
smaxwell@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Sara Maxwell) writes:
 
>
>I have heard that they make some sort of cover or guard that you can put
>on sharp table corners etc so little toddlers do not whap their heads.
>What are these things called?  Does anyone know where to buy them?
 
I just got a package from Toys-R-Us. I haven't put them on yet, you're supposed
to remove any wax from the furniture before putting them on.  I haven't had tim
e to fool with it yet but by this weekend I will.  I hope they work, if not I'm
afraid my little Bryan is going to have a knotty head!
 
Mary Ann Monnin
LA Tech University-Library
>(Hardware stores, kiddy stores??)
>
>Thanks for any info---
>
>Sara
>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: olsen@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Diane Olsen)
Subject: Re: Car Seats After an Accident
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:58:41 GMT

In article <GeraldR.85.0@sunfish.ratsys.com> GeraldR@sunfish.ratsys.com (Gerald Ruderman) writes:
>In article <25612@oasys.dt.navy.mil> handle@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Handleton) writes:
>
>>Anyway, the owners booklet of the Century carseat said replace it if
>>it is involved in an accident,
>
>My view on car seats, bike helmets, seat belts, etc is that after they have 
>served in one accident they have ended their useful lives. They aren't 
>tested to survive two accidents.
>
>I also suggest that if they are not visibly destroyed that they be 
>destroyed (after insurance etc is done with them) before they are thrown 
>away.
>
>Gerald Ruderman                                   geraldr@ratsys.com

I agree that you don't want to use such a device after it's been in
an accident, but instead of throwing the thing away, I'd favor 
calling or writing the company to (1) thank them for saving my loved
one's life (if I worked at a car seat company and someone sent me a 
snapshot of a kid whose life my company had saved, I think it would make
my YEAR, let alone my day) and (2) ask if there's someplace you can send 
the thing for recycling.  (All right, I'm not sure I'd do this for just a 
seat belt....)

--Diane

-- 
Diane L. Olsen		"A woman with a mind is fit for all tasks."
olsen@csli.stanford.edu		--Christine de Pizan (c.1363-c.1431)
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: When did you feel "grown-up"  (was: Re: maternity lingerie)
Date: 5 Oct 1992 23:20:43 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Oct3.005322.21451@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca> marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson) writes:
>>
>Yep. Jury duty.

Hmm - I was on jury duty a few weeks ago.  It was a drunk driving case,
so the judge was asking prospective jurors if they drank.  One of the
non-drinkers gave as reason that he is only 18 and can't drink legally.
He was among those one or the other of the lawyers decided to excuse.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an Art."
        Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
From: sg@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM (Susanne Gilliam)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Nostalgia Toys
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:22:34 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <9689@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> vicki@mathcs.emory.edu (Vicki Powers) writes:
>
>Okay, 'fess up, any other women reading this who wanted to be Marcia Brady?  
>I know I did!
>
>Ah, memories. 
>
>   Vicki
>
>-- 
>Vicki  Powers       |  When a student reads in a math book that there are no

  Nope; I went to school with her (and Christopher Knight), and I had no
desire to be her!  They both missed months of school at a time, had a lot
of friends that hardly even knew them, but wanted to be close to a "star",
and Chris Knight was a even a worse speller than I was!
 
					Susanne Gilliam
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler)
Subject: Re: How to get daughter more career-minded?
Organization: University of Victoria
Date:  4 Oct 92 05:04:54 GMT

Ladies,

You write as if your daughters had just forsaken medicine
for a life of crime.

Motherhood can be a noble calling.
View it as a time of sharing and service.
Parenthood should be a time of growth for both
mother and child.

Many people comment that our society is degenerating.
Perhaps if mothers (and fathers) esteemed their roles in 
their homes more highly (and were able to instill these 
values in their children) we could reverse this trend.

A IDLER

judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:

>In article <1992Sep28.160918.12999@engage.pko.dec.com> pub@riscee.pko.dec.com (Publius) writes:
>>I have no idea where she picked up that concept.  Knowing its
>>implied message, we have banned "Little Mermaid" video tape from
>>our household.  Instead, we read her books like "Doctor Hilda made
>>the house call" and the likes.  Whenever possible, we always find
>>her a female pediatrician in the hope that she has a good role model.
>>But despite all of these conscious efforts on our part, she 
>>obviously picked up some other ideas.  Apparently she watched
>>the "Little Mermaid" at the school for she sometimes told us
>>about that story and asked us buy her that tape.  We have told
>>her many times that Ariel is not really a good girl because she
>>only wants to play but does not want to study and do some useful
>>things.  I guess we have yet to get our message across.
>>
>>Any suggestion for us to turn the things around?  
>>
>>
>Yes, chill out!  She's four years old for heaven's sake.  This week she'll
>want to be a Mommy, next week an astronaut, the week after a belly dancer.
>Why not let her be a 4 YO for a while.  And then she'll be a 5 YO.  If she
>still feels this way at 16, then I'd worry. 
>>Regards,
>>-- 
>>-- Publius
>>Disclaimer: These opinions are mine, all mine, mine alone.


>-- 
>Judy Leedom Tyrer

>"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"	- William Blake
From: alanj@endeavor18.tek.com (Alan Jeddeloh)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Feeding my son on a trip
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:18:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1866
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

In article <1992Sep28.125245.4405@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes:
-  I've always wondered about those Meat Sticks, mini hot dogs.  My
-  husband will not allow them in our house since he works in the
-  Emergency Room and says that toddlers most often choke on round
-  cylindrical pieces of food that are just the right size to fit
-  in a toddler's throat and those Meat Sticks sure seem to fit the
-  description.  Are they really soft and easy for the baby to
-  chew up?  He also won't allow grapes and peanuts or any sort
-  of nut or gummy bears--I have to sneak gummy bears at work :-)


Cut the meat sticks, hot dogs, etc., lengthwise in quarters. Laura loves
grapes, which we also cut into eights.

We also are very careful with those late-night popcorn binges, accounting for
every kernel that may have fallen on the floor.

--
    Alan Jeddeloh      W:(503) 685-2991  H:(503) 292-9740
    Tektronix, Inc.  D/S 60-850; PO Box 1000; Wilsonville, OR 97070
    Alan.Jeddeloh@tek.com          Let sleeping dogs^H^H^H^Hbabies lie
    You can put the children to bed, but you can't make them sleep!