HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ranck@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wheelies
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:59:30 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computing Center - Distributed Computing Group

In article <15887@bunny.GTE.COM> stm0@gte.com (Steven McClure) writes:

>Well, I've had my bike come up on me unintentionally a few times, in all gears
>except 5th.  I 'spose the turbo has something to do with that though... :-)

I've done an unintentional wheelie just once.  About 10 or 12 years ago
I took the Norton to a friend's place for the weekend.  When I got there
I decided the chain needed to be adjusted and we diddled around with that
for a while and then went for a ride.  He was leading on his Harley and
I followed.  We were on back country roads and I found out on the first
corner that we hadn't tightned the nuts on the rear wheel which made the
bike do an interesting dance in the corners.  I couldn't catch the hog
because my handling was so screwed up.  I pulled over and got out the 
toolkit.  My friend eventually figured out I wasn't with him and came back 
about the time I had finished tightening things up.
   He started off down the road and I was in a hurry to catch up.  I dropped
the clutch and twisted the throttle, but I had let the clutch go too fast
and the bike stalled . . . but not quite because then it fired and BAM!  
There I was front wheel up and accelerating all of a sudden.  I eased up
slightly, got the wheeldown and blew past the Harley.  Scared the hell out 
of me.  Nortons are sure fun when they run.  :-)

  
 *************************************************************************
 * Bill Ranck                  DoD #0496           RANCK@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU *
 * '87 XV535 Virago          '73 Norton Commando    '73 Honda 350-4      *
 * (it gets me there)        (it's a classic)      (it's hard to explain)*
 *************************************************************************
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Lester Wheels/tubeless tires
Date: Thu,  9 Apr 92 18:14:45 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <1992Apr9.140238.20688@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>
  <1992Apr9.153130.28080@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>

Paul Smith asked about using tubeless tires on Honda Comstar wheels...
 
My (Clymers...?)  shop manual specifically states that it's OK to use tubeles
tires on the ComCAST wheels, but not on the ComSTAR.
 
The Comcast wheels on my '82 CM450A have "Tubeless tire applicable" stamped
on the rims, but my '81 CM400A with Comstar wheels does not.
 
I still haven't remounted any tires on the '81, but when I changed tires on
the '82, I did indeed find tubeless tires mounted on it.
 
BobR                                                             DoD #414
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: the Joust is ON!
Organization: /home/karazm/jet/.organization
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:43:46 GMT

>> let me give you a warning about edwards afb and its security police.
>> don't speed much and do wear a helmet.  remember that military justice
>> is an oxymoron.

>will we need conspicuity vests????


Go buy a cheap traffic-directing vest at the local cop shop or
construction supply store.  They meet the federal regs that the bases
fall under.

--
J. Eric Townsend - jet@uh.edu - Systems Wrangler, UH Dept of Mathematics
Note! New vox number: (713) 743-3466  '91 CB750, DoD# 0378
     Want to report illegal or corrupt activities by a federal agency?
        Call the Federally-sponsored Whistleblower BBS: 202.225.5527


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
From: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: DoD number
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:34:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.135731.12783@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>
shz@garage.att.com (Seth Zirin) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.200306.16519@ncsu.edu>,
>steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier) writes:
>> ...dues?...what dues did *I* pay?...I never paid any dues to the DoD...
>All DoD annual dues should be sent to:
>Seth Zirin
>AT&T Bell Laboratories
>184 Liberty Corner Road, 3N-R07
>Warren, NJ 07059
>The current dues requirement is 1% of your 1991 AGI.

In that case Seth, you owe *me* money! ;-)

Steve Garnier - 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF Special with 156,000 miles and *climbing*
DoD #00000005 - KotF (The Daemon's Byte and Keeper of the Flame), NC Chapter
Internet:steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu  UUCP:{?,gatech,uunet}!mcnc!bucolix!steve
From: vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:00:12 GMT
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

 Friday April 10 1992, William E. Johns;S23015 writes to All:
 
  >> space@bwdlh522.bnr.ca (Scott Pace) writes: Japanese bikes are called
  >> "rice burners", Italian bikes are called "pasta burners", so what do we
  >> call American bikes (Harleys)? Ok, here's a
  >> couple: milk-burner beer-burner

 Given the sounds heard drubbing past whilst gassing up this weekend:

    Harleys  -->  "Herd Of Flatulating Buffaloes"

 OK, so a couple of 'em that went by didn't have straight pipes and look
 like the Black Widows off of the "Every Which Way But Loose" set, but most
 of 'em did.  Give me a "rice rocket" in-line four singing at 10,000 revs
 anyday.

 Cheers,
 Victor Johnson
 --------------
From: ops@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Is this a good deal? (GSXR750)
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:06:37 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

In article <a#1t_5d@rpi.edu>, adamkp@aix.rpi.edu (Peter Adamkovics) writes:
> I just recently got hooked on motorcycles.  I don't own one yet, but I know
> how to ride, well I almost have my license.  Anyway, I just saw an ad for a
> 1987 GSXR750 for $2000.  It has 7500 miles, a VanceHines exhaust, new tires.
> I am actually looking for a sport bike in this class 600-750cc in the
> $2000-3000 range.

Am I just old fashioned but is it really a good Idea to have a sports
replica 750cc machine as a first bike ?

           ************************************************
           * Mark at Oxford University Computing Services *
           * Email - OPS@UK.AC.OX.VAX  anytime....        *
           ************************************************
           Suzuki LS650 - who needs more than one cylinder ?
 
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From: jearls@luke.eecs.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Looking for a suction cup/magnet (dent pull)....
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:14:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Apr14.191419.4054
Organization: Washington State University

In article <92105.122154PAH112@psuvm.psu.edu> PAH112@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Hello,
>
>I am looking for a suction cup to pull out a dent in my friend's bike's fuel
>tank.  We have tried a 6" diameter one, and pulled most of it out.  However,
>the 6" one is too big, and we need one in the 3" range.  We cannot use a con-
>ventional dent puller, as we don't want to poke any holes in the tank.
>
>I guess that a strong magent (able to resist about 20lbs of pull) would also
>work.
>
>Any ideas?  We have tried glass supply stores, but they do not make one in that
>small of a size.  Where do I find a magnet of that strenght?
>

  Try Edmund Scientific.  I don't have their address handy, anybody?  

  Anyway, they have quite a few pages of their catalogs devoted to 
  magnets.  Most are designed for educational use (high schools, etc.)
  but I do remember them advertising one which could be tied on a 
  rope and used to retrieve outboard motors from the bottom of lakes.
  I would imagine that it would be strong enough and it didn't look
  too big.

  Ride Safe,



-- 
==============================================================================
|Jeff Earls  jearls@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu | DoD #0530  KotTG  WMTC #0002  SF3.17 |  
|'89 FJ1200 - Millennium Falcon ------+ "Hit the button Chewie!"... Han Solo |
|'86 VF500F - Anti-Christ             |                                      |
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: engine slugishness
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:54:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

Last night on beyond 2000 (cable)(discovery channel) they had a blurb
about this engineer/inventor who was riding a cycle that seemed to have
wheels that were not connected to the frame. I guess he sorta took
the axel's and increased their size until they where flush against
the rim and then hollowed out the middle. Supposedly increasing the handling,
and they said, it's the wave of the future for auto/bike racing. Anybody
else see this?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: Re: R100GS bags at speed
Keywords: too fast
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 14:50:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.081945.1709@nic.csu.net> rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Robert B. Pasker) writes:
> In article <ku1oehINN258@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (Ninja Squirrel Master) writes:
> >    On a more serious note:
> >
> >    Empirical testing has shown that,
> >
> >	WITH a 1992 R100GS,
> >	WITH dual BMW saddlebags full of stuff,
> >	WITH no appreciable crosswind or headwind,
> >	WITH a smooth, straight, road,
> >	WITH an attained speed of slightly over 100mph,
> >	...there is no noticeable instability.
> 
> 
> add twisties and a passenger (~180# (not laurie!)) and there is
> still no noticable instability.

In fact add large rider (me), smaller passenger (my VSO), and full
saddlebags, and stuff strapped to the luggage rack riding at 90mph
on the road from Montreal and you STILL have no noticable instability.

Why is this an issue?

-Gary


-- 
Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
From: druth@erg.sri.com (Doug Ruth)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Where to buy dual Fiamm horns?
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:59:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: erg.1992Apr7.205910.19579
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

Anyone have suggestions as to where I can buy a set of BLACK (not CHROME)
dual Fiamm horns?  I've checked local shops as well as mail-order
(Competition Accessories) and can only find chrome versions.  Now if I
had a Harley I might consider the chrome ones :-), but they just don't
look right on my R100GS/PD.  The folks at Competition Accessories said
that as of '92 they can only get the chrome ones.  Any pointers in the
right direction are appreciated.

-- 
-- Doug Ruth         | druth@erg.sri.com  | SRI International
-- '91 BMW R100GS/PD | Work:(415)859-3860 | 333 Ravenswood Ave.
-- AMA #: 197665     | Home:(415)962-9808 | Menlo Park, CA 94025
--
From: andersen@che.udel.edu (From the jumbled mind of Steve Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:01:00 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware/Department of Chemical Engineering
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <WARKENTI.92Apr10123049@syscad8.CAE.Mitel.Com>, warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com (BJ Warkentin) writes...
>- Assembled in America - Yup, just like the nice bikes in Honda's
>factory (Does any other manufacturer have an American plant????)

Kawasaki supposedly assembles all of its bikes except for 
the ZX-7 and some EX-500's in the US...

Steve

______________________________________________________________________________
 Steve Andersen                                   andersen@oscar.ccm.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 "I own two bikes, brand unimportant"  -- Jeff Kaskey 
 DoD #0239
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: "Shaft Effect?"
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:52:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.205708.5526@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Seth Zirin) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.192408.22869@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>, dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:
>> What's a 1978
>> Ducati, Guzzi, Harley, or BMW  worth in showroom condition (as a fraction of 
>> original sticker price)?
>
>I tried to buy a 1979 FXS (Low Rider) used from an individual last July 
>for $5000 but it was sold with several backup bids before mine.  It was
>not in showroom condition.  The same bike sold new for about $4800 back
>at the end of 1978; I almost bought one then at the Harley dealer on
>Northern Blvd in Queens, NY.  A 13 year old Harley sells for 5000/4800
>of the original purchase price.  Not bad...
>
>Meth Swervin'

Have you priced a 10 year old Honda CBX lately?  They are going for
around twice the original price right now!


--
(804)-924-8607                   Michael L. Johnson
mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU   Pharmacology Dept.
mlj8e@Virginia.BITNET            Box 448; Univ. of Va.  
mlj8e@Virginia.EDU               Charlottesville, Va. 22908
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mstoller@gdalsrv.sas.upenn.edu (Matthew E. Stoller)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cheap mail-order helmets
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:08:51 GMT
Organization: Social Science Computing, University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Apr6.035154.19685@cs.yale.edu> rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:


>I've decided I want to get a second helmet so that I have something
>for my passengers to wear instead of having to scrounge. I know
>what I want, a second Shoei RF200, and I know the size, medium,
>so that the new helmet will match mine. Hence, I see no point
>in going to a shop and paying extra money to try it on, etc.
>What's the cheapest place you guys have heard of to buy helmets in
>general, and an RF200 in specific?

Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse  usually has the lowest prices
	1-800-241-2222 (order)
	1-503-593-3633 (customer service)
		make sure you tell them that you'd like to have it soon, 
		or they'll take their time about getting it to you

Competition Accessories 
	check popular m/c magazines for phone
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: Vmax problems
Cc: nate@grmail.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:18:44 GMT

In article <ku1psbINNhj9@cronkite>, nate@grmail.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids) writes:
> 
> 	I have a few problems with my '85 Vmax.  Well first of all it seems 
> like it needs to get a tune up EVERY year.  Is this normal?  The reason
> I have to tune it up every year is because it seems like the battery goes
> dead every off season.

     The problem is that batteries will slowly leak charge and if you
don't ride the bike regularly, you need to do something else to keep it
charged.  One or two deep (complete) discharges can ruin a good battery.

     The standard procedure is to remove the battery from the bike and
keep it on a trickle charger.  Note, a trickle charger is not a regular
battery charger; it feeds the battery a tiny current just sufficient to
offset normal charge leakage.  Alot of people also put the trickle charger
on a timer, since you don't need it to be on all day.  It's also a good
idea to keep the top of the battery nice and clean, as water likes to
condense on crud and form a short across the terminal.

> Also, one other problem is that the clutch fluid leaks
> out.  I took it in for this problem once and they returned it to me with
> the resevoir filled.  Upon my asking them what was wrong with the clutch
> they said, "We couldn't find anything wrong with it.  It just must have 
> LEAKED out."  What the HELL kind of an answer is this!  That is obviously
> the problem.  Or does Yamaha build this 'feature' into all their bikes?
> Well, anyhow if you can help please send email.  Or post, I'll just see
> it for sure if you mail it.

     Well, the obvious answer is to check what seals might be going.  I
don't know about your Vmax, but after five years, I've had to replace a
few bits of rubber on my bike to keep various fluids off the paint.  Find
out if your dealer checked all the seals.

							George

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Seth Zirin)
Subject: Re: Racing Gas
Organization: DoD Treasurer
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:53:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.203234.15334@ichips.intel.com>, mfisch@pdx064.intel.com (Matthew Fisch) writes: 
> In article <shv7hINN44g@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM (Dave Carter-Sun-Atlanta GA-Atlanta District MCC) writes:
> |> I own a 82 Honda CB750 Custom, the store up the road sells racing gas, 100 Octane,
> |> at $2+ a gallon. Would it be benificial to use this gas or should I go ahead and
> |> use unleaded regular?

>   1. Burns a hole in your pocket.

May also burn a hole in your pistons if the gas is loaded with oxygen-rich
alcohol...

Seth
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
From: bilbo@bisco.kodak.com (Charles Tryon)
Subject: Re: BICYCLE CRASH (PUT IT TO REST!)
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company; Rochester, NY
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 16:53:55 GMT

In article <2981@cvbnetPrime.COM> rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.185816.670@access.digex.com> jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:
>>                              And regardless, the potential to cause
>>damage by riding a bicycle is insignificant compared to that of an
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>automobile. That's why there is no requirement to have a license or
>>registration or insurance.  ...
>
>Have you ever seen a car after it hits a pedestrian (or a deer or a moose
>or anything else of substantial bulk)?  ...

  I've seen a number of cars (three to be exact) after they've hit ME!  :-<
  In one case there was a small dent in the rear fender ($300 damage?)
  This was when the driver pulled out of a side street in front of me,
  I was not able to stop, and slammed into the side.  The bicycle was
  totaled.  In the other two cases, both of which were caused by the
  driver comming in the opposite direction and pulling a left hand turn
  into my side, there was no visible damage to the automobile.

  Try that with two cars and see what kind of damage you get.

  (Deer and moose weigh a LOT more than the typical pedestrian!)


>Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com


--
Chuck Tryon
    bilbo@bisco.kodak.com                                 B. Baggins
    << Kodak and I don't always share opinions. >>        At Your Service
 ____________________________________________________________________
   REAL Bicyclists don't take abuse from motorists, they drop them.
                                          -- Dan Mocsny
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:49:16 GMT
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <NeH3iB1w164w@ham>, ham!emd@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
> boardman@cancer.unm.edu (Bob Boardman) writes:
> 
>> In article <15215@drutx.ATT.COM>, klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL) writes:
>> >
>> >How about:
>> >
>> > Hardly Wavidson
>> > Hogley Ferguson ( half pig, half tractor )
>> >
>> 	You seem to have missed the classic appellation:
>> 
>>         Hardly AbleToRun
>> 
>> 
> And Hardly Dangerous...........
> 
> Harley Davidson,
> made of tin,
> ride 'em out
> and push 'em in.

I call 'em a TT bike.
Tavern to Tavern.
.......................Dr. Doom
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karen@brahms.amd.com (Karen Black)
Subject: Re: DoD marital aid announcement
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices; Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:32:30 GMT

scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>garnett@news.Colorado.EDU (Santiago de la Paz) writes:
>>Okay, that's the last straw.
>>                       THE DoD PRODUCT LIST (planned)
>>    - "I (heart) The DoD" bumper stickers
>>    - "I (spade) The DoD" bumper stickers
>
>	You forgot: "I (club) the DoD"

Not to mention "I (nuke) the DoD".

One also cannot have a DoD product list without 

	DoD tennis balls
From: dm@genie.gene.com (David Mischel)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: handshake?  what secret handshake?
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:49:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: genie.58
Organization: Genentech, Inc.

In article <9204092026.AA01369@nmtvs315.mtvyp>, shea@ntmtv.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> So which one of you clowns recognized my DoD sticker on 101 near
|> Candlestick this morning?  And how do I get a job as close to
|> San Francisco as yours?  (Assuming you were on your way to work,
|> that is.)
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> ---------
|> Ray Shea			A squid eating dough in a polyethelene
|> DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650	bag is fast and bulbous, got me?
|> (415)940-2527			
|> ntmtv!shea@ames.arc.nasa.gov	

oh, that was me, ray.  couldn't mistake that sticker anywhere!
cute idea to put it on the helmet.  why didn't _i_ think of that?
yes, i was toodling in latish.  i work in ssf which is, as you say,
close to home.

now i'm thinking of where to put my few remaining precious stickers.
who else has 'em displayed and where did you put 'em?  helmet?
fender?  bags?  sun glass lenses?

< david

-- 
===============================================================================
David Mischel                       Withdrawing in disgust is not the same
dm@genie.gene.com                   as apathy.
DoD #1984                                --slacker
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (The Missing Link)
Subject: Re: Rec.moto.cute
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:18:23 GMT

In a rare fit of vernacular exposition sasmjw@unx.sas.com held forth:
:- 
:- Mary Shafer? and Janett Levenson?  and Ilama? and... :-)
                                          ^^^^^

	ooops ! get the asbestos ready ;)



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From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: BICYCLE CRASH
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:28:00 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 5816@ssd.kodak.com, bilbo@bisco.kodak.com (Charles Tryon) writes:
>  Now, I use my bicycle for transportation as well as enjoyment (it's
>  fortunate that, with the bicycle, I can actually combine the two!).

In this entire silly thread, this statement is the definitive proof
that we really are more alike than different...

[if this goes out multiple times, it's my computer's fault, not mine,
OK?]

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---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA