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From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Stanford Graphics 2.0 now available
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:13:33 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

ruckman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher Ruckman) writes:

>In comp.os.ms-windows.apps, ruckman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher Ruckman) writes:
>>I just spoke with a tech rep at 3-D Visions who told me that as of
>>yesterday they are shipping Version 2.0 of Stanford Graphics, the
>>Windows graphing/presentation package whose virtues and problems
>>were discussed here recently.

>I should have mentioned the price:  $29.95 for registered users of earlier
>versions.  Contact 3D-Visions at 1-800-SAY-GRAF (1-800-729-4723).

So in other words, they are shipping some major bug fixes and
some (hopefully) performance improvements.  Oh, by the way they
threw in a couple of new features so that they could charge me 
for it.

Well, no thanks!

I have been burned twice by these people...they aren't getting
any more of my money.

Robert
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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: More than 24 lines in Crosstalk for Windows?
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:46:49 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Aug13.004549.24851@athena.mit.edu> crcraig@athena.mit.edu (Chris Craig) writes:

>I'm using CrossTalk for Windows, v1.2.2.  I'd like to convince
>CrossTalk to display more than 24 lines before scrolling, since I can
>(theoretically) fit about 35 lines on the screen when XTalk is
>maximized.  Unfortunately, no matter how big I make the terminal
>window, XTalk insists on scrolling after 24 lines.  The host end is
>not the problem.  An 'stty rows 35' does the right thing on that end.

>Such a waste of space.  According to Gateway 2000 (the company I
>received XTalk from), I'm out of luck.  Does anybody know for sure?  I
>just can't believe that they would be that stupid.

They were.  I consider this THE great failing of this package.  I use
it at home, and no matter what font size I use or how much space I
have, there is no way to get more than 25 lines.  They apparently
decided that being like a 'real' terminal was more important than
letting the user have more than 25 lines.

>If I am out of luck, does anyone know if Procomm Plus for Windows can
>do more than 24 lines?  Any other Windows based comm programs?
>Thanks.

I can't say from firsthand experience, but I seem to recall someone
saying that it does.


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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Strange SYSTEM.INI changes when installing CP Backup / PC Tools 7.1
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:48:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: tc.1992Aug21.004830.21332
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Distribution: na
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/

Had an interesting phenomena when installing PC Tools 7.1 last night.

After a number of Internet responses about how the PC Tools TSRs could cause
problems, I set my machine up last night with the minimal set of PC Tools I
wanted to use: DiskFix, Unformat, Mirror, CP Backup for Windows, Undelete
for Windows, Compress, PC Format, and SystemInfo.  None of these load TSRs,
and I was extremely careful to examine what was happening to my various
configuration files after the installation.

My only complaint/worry: the installation program editted my SYSTEM.INI file
to change one of the "device=" lines from "*vsd" (I think it was vsd) to
"vsd.386" (again, I'm not sure of the name -- I saved the differences to my
config log at home.)  They say it is done so that CP Backup can be used in
Windows 386 Enhanced mode.  Quick Question: I assume they mean CP Backup for
Windows -- otherwise, I'll return the SYSTEM.INI file to its original state,
since I won't be using CP Backup for DOS.  (However, if they mean that the
SYSTEM.INI file needs to be changed so CP Backup for Windows can be run in
Windows 386 Enhanced Mode -- huh?  A Windows app (a modern one) should be
able to that without changes to the SYSTEM.INI file, unless they're dealing
with hardware drivers.)

Actually, I'm pretty impressed with their documentation and the installer;
certainly the clearest "personal computer tool kit" documents I've ever
seen.  Beat's Symantec Utilities for the Mac and Norton Utilities for DOS
docs hands down.

                           "Announced today was a new operating system for the
                            PC. It is called `DOS/Perot'.  When you boot it,
                            it displays a message on the screen saying it's
                            thinking of running. It then scans the hard drive,
                            looking for competing OS's. If any competing OS's
                            are found, it quits immediately."

                                           -- Robert X. Cringely
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From: reed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Perry Reed)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:42:10 GMT
Subject: Re: WINDOCK & Brian Capson?
Organization: Hewlett Packard Co. / PGP
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps

> It's a nice utility, but the whole experience was extremely annoying.
> There is a way around the dumb nag screen, though.  Just pick up the file
> called nonag2.zip on one of the SIMTEL20 mirrors.  When you invoke WinDock
> using nonag, the registration screen appears, then disappears immediately.
> 
> Rob
> ihlpy!opus@att.att.com
> ----------
>
I looked for the nonag2.zip file on a couple of SIMTEL20 mirrors, but I
couldn't find it.  Could you tell me where exactly it is?

Thanks,

Perry
reed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com
 
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From: shenoy@iastate.edu (Shiva Shenoy)
Subject: Re: Windows database?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:56:19 GMT

In <BswME0.K1v@chinet.chi.il.us> prb@chinet.chi.il.us (Paul Botts) writes:

>My wife needs a low-end Windows database program for some simple home
>and home-business stuff, like a small databse of clients to run invoices
>and mailing lables and lists from. WE don't need a $300 program for

>So, I seek advice. Are there any worthwhile low-end (<$100) Windows
>databse programs out there? How about shareware? Email or postings
>welcome, I imagine others would be interested as well.
>Thanks!

Check out ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the pub/pc/win3/util directory for

takenote.zip    920807  TakeNote: Rolodex/Note System for Windows


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From: iroberts@pietro.ua.oz.au (Ian Roberts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Updating Fonts in W4W
Date: 16 Aug 92 07:52:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Physical and Inorganic Chemistry, University of Adelaide

How do I force W4W to update the fonts that it thinks are installed?

I have recently removed Adobe Type Manager from my computer and all other
Windows apps are now 'aware' that these fonts are no longer available.

W4W still lists these fonts in the relevant dialog boxes. I have tried to force
changes by deleting winword.ini and normal.dot. I have tried using File|Print
Setup to force changes-all to no avail.

Where does W4W keep info about available fonts?

Apologis for the possibly FAQ but I can't find any help in W4W or MS Windows
on-line help nor can I find help in my manual.

Thanks in advance.

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From: tabitha@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: cinetic mail
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:08:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

I'm just a dumb user.  I downloaded cinetic mail to manage my internet
mail, but I can't figure out one part of the setup.  They haven't
ansered my e-mail.  When they refer to system name and system mailer
do they mean the program used by Hebrew University's VAX to send the
mail, maillist v4.2, some other progrm on the VAX, or a program that's
supposed to be on my PC at home?  Or is there a better program for
managing my internet mail?  thanks.
-dennis turner
From: cids05@vaxa.strath.ac.uk (Dr Stephen K Tagg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Program to convert text data to spreadsheet or database formats
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:04:42 GMT
Organization: Univ of Strathclyde, GLASGOW, SCOTLAND

In article <1992Aug13.103020.14180@ms.uky.edu>, 
tek@ms.uky.edu (Thomas E. Kunselman) writes:
> Does anyone know of a program for windows or dos that can be used to easily
> convert data that is in a text format to a spreadsheet or database format?
> 
> I know about parsing within spreadsheets, but apparently this is too 
> difficult for our secretary to learn how to use.  Is there something

It wasnt too difficult for our secretary to learn, because we didnt tell her.

She has entered my colleagues qualitative interview coding as a table viz..

Line number <TAB> Code <TAB> Text
........

She entered it in Word for windows.

That's the last the secretary saw of it

I read it worth excel 4.0 and said it was text with tab delimiters.
I said yes to read the binary file as text anyhow warning.
and deleted the rubbish at top and bottom.

Then I could sort by code etc for qualitative research purposes.

Dr Stephen K Tagg Marketing Dept, University of Strathclyde

> even more friendly than that?
> 
> Thanks!
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From: mfprf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Paul R. Falzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Help: AmiPro does not work correctly with the print envelop icon!
Summary: me too!
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:29:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: uxa.1992Aug14.172935.4115
Organization: Educational Computing Network


Funny you should mention that.  I just got my upgrade, and was really
excited to try some of the new gimmicks (having grown tired of the old
gimmicks, I guess).  So I did up a letter and clicked on the "print
envelope" icon.  Procedurally, everything went well; but, nothing printed. 
AmiPrint was lurking in its usual minimized location and nothing appeared to
be wrong.

I am using an Oki OL400 (HP compatible).  I wonder if there's some mix-up in
the codes that the program is sending to the printer.  At any rate, for now
I'm reduced to using one of my old gimmicks.  

  Paul R. Falzer
    Internet: mfprf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
    Bitnet:   mfprf@ecnuxa.bitnet
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From: hp0@slider.cis.ufl.edu (Hyun Park)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Multimedia Questions
Keywords: multimedia CD-ROM sound card
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:17:29 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Hi!
I have a couple of questions on multimedia.

1) I have a SONY CDU7205(came with Laser Library) which is, as far as I know,
   actually a CDU535 internal CD-ROM drive with power supply and a case.
   It has a proprietary interface (not SCSI) with it, that is I cannot directly
   connect this drive to any of existing sound boards with SCSI interface.
   (Of course I cannot use SB Pro because SB Pro has its own proprietary intf.)
   
   Q: What is the difference between 
        i) sound card with SCSI + CD-ROM drive with SCSI
        and
        ii) any sound card + CDU7205 with audio out from CD-ROM drive connected            to audio in RCA jacks of sound card.
      That is, can I use this CD-ROM drive with a sound card as a MM?

2) CDU7205's spec looks satisfying MPC standard(150KB average trasfer rate...)
   But is not known as "MPC compatible."
   What is the reason?

3) Does MS windows 3.1 have all the extensions for multimedia which win 3.0 had?

I am looking forward to hear from you guys soon.
Thanks,

-Hyun
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod)
Subject: Re: WP for Windows or Word?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 05:42:33 GMT

In article <36889@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> velasco@cs.ucsd.edu (Gabriel Velasco) writes:
>The business division at this University has a site license for
>several hundred users.  Usually, the man in charge of deciding what
>software every one of his departments should use goes with the PC
>Magazine Editor's Choice.  WP for Windows was an exception.  Even
>though we have large site licenses for Windows Excel, he chose to stay
>with WP for Windows as the division-wide word processor.  The main
>reasons were a good learning curve for previous users of WP and
>excellent support.  I'm not sure I would have made the same choice
>because, generally, the reviews for WP Windows haven't been good and
>it sure seemed like a fast port to windows when I first messed around
>with it.  I'm not sure if Microsoft Word can import WP files, but that
>certainly would have also been a deciding factor since the division
>has probably 100 or so gigabytes of WP files already.
>
>I think people who are used to WP for DOS and have lots of resources
>invested in it have a much greater motivation for sticking with their
>Windows product.  People who are new to computers and are starting off
>in Windows might want to go with a product that's more "Windowey".
>They both seem to be very stong, flexible, stable products.
>
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It is obvious that your divison head did not do his/her homework on
Word for Windows and WP for Windows before rendering judgement. If
the reasons were actually the command sequences and the file
formats, then they were excuses more than reasons. Microsoft took
great pains to write W4W such that you could use the WP command
keystrokes and provided a tutorial to ease the transition into W4W
command sets. Also, they read and write WP format as well, so I
fail to see where the justification was to stay with it.


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From: ruckman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher Ruckman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Stanford Graphics
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:48:05 GMT
Reply-To: ruckman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher Ruckman)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In comp.os.ms-windows.apps, danony@aix.rpi.edu (Yaron Danon) writes:
>I am using ORIGIN 2.24 and it is very fast. It has the ability to limit

The main features of interest to me in Stanford Graphics are 3-D surface
plots, polar plots, OLE support, and 256+ color support.  Does Origin
have any or all of these features?

I'd like to make one more comment about Stanford Graphics:  the manual
STINKS!  What a waste of paper!  It's nothing more than an annotated
list of the available menu choices.  And what good is a 500-page manual
with an index only 3 pages long which, again, is nothing more than a
list of the available menu choices!

Stanford Graphics:  the program I love to hate.  If the output weren't
so good, I'd say "delete star-dot-star."  But I always come back to
that:  the output is excellent, albeit hard to get sometimes.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Subject: Re: How is MathCAD?
Originator: dspascha@c00083-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:00:28 GMT


Hi.  I've used Windows MathCAD 3.0, and it has some nice features (like the
Maple symbolic processor, Handbooks, the features left out of the crippled
"Student" version for DOS, and the flexibility of choosing display and printer
drivers, which applies to all Windows apps).  However, I have a few gripes about
MathCAD 3.0 (some or all of these may have been fixed in the newer version 3.1):

1. It is too bulky and slow (even for a Windows app running on an IBM PS/2
model 70-386-25MHz) -- even when you're just typing stuff on the screen, it
takes its own sweet time.
2. It isn't very keystroke compatible with the DOS versions -- since alt-keys
(like alt-d) are reserved by Windows for invoking pull-down menus from the
keyboard, I guess this is to be expected, but I haven't found any decent way to
type in Greek letters -- What you have to do is pull up a dialog box or
something and change the font for the current text region from Roman letters
to Greek letters -- this means that you can't mix them (like for example,
delta-x)!  Maybe there is some way to do this, but I have not yet found it!
3. For operations such as cutting/pasting and dragging regions around the screen
with a mouse, MathCAD insists on writing to two files to the directory specified
by a certain environment variable (WMCADDIR).  This is no problem for a single-
user installation (i.e. when you dump it onto your own hard disk), but it makes
it impossible to run MathCAD on a network or whatever in a write-protected
drive!  Even if the directory were writeable, you still couldn't have more than
one user running MathCAD at a time, since one user's cuts or drags would
overwrite another's!  And if you change WMCADDIR to point to a writeable TEMP
drive or to the currently-logged-in user's personal directory, then you can't
use Maple or the Handbooks, because WMCADDIR also tells MathCAD where to find
those files as well!  Perhaps they have a network version which doesn't have
these restrictions, but since we had enough copies for the number of machines
that were running WMCAD, we (where I was before coming here to NC State)
never looked into that.  Instead, I wrote them a little assembly language TSR
that made these files go to some other drive that was writeable, and this pretty
much fixed our problems.
4. The documentation isn't very good -- it's more of a function reference, and
it doesn't explain how to do basic things, like (2) and (3) above.

Tschuess,
David Paschal
From: ehunt@bsc835bsc.edu (Eric Hunt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Datastorm Help Not Helpful!
Summary: Datastorm tech support is not good
Date: 17 Aug 92 02:25:05 GMT
Organization: Birmingham-Southern College

In article <14294@mindlink.bc.ca>, Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley) writes:
> work better if you fax or write them? What are other people's experiences with
> Datastorm's technical support?

It is ABSOLUTELY horrid.  *DO NOT* fax them anything. Faxes are processed FIFO
and it took 2 weeks for one of my faxes to show up on a tech's desk to call
me about it. I've yet to ever call their toll support line and get anything
other than a busy signal.

Once I got a problem opened, it took some heavy threats to get them working
at a reasonable speed on my company's problem. While my problem specifically
was not with PCPlus/Win, I imagine it will be the same with it.

Datastorm was heavily trashed in a recent InfoWorld review on their support
staff, and they are aware of their deficiencies, but I've yet to see any
concrete steps taken to improve the situation.
From: enno@efborg.hobby.nl (Enno Borgsteede)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: WP for Windows or Word?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:56:04 GMT
Organization: ABC - the FsFan connection

        Hi Stephen,

16 Aug 92, Stephen Medlin writes to All:

 SM> The best parts of WordPerfect for Windows are those that were written
 SM> for Windows, such as the program's innovative file management feature

Are you talking about the separate WP file manager? The directory display
of this program bears a very strong resemblance to the NeXTstep equivalent,
which was released earlier.

Talking about innovative... Even the dialog boxes got a NeXT look.

        groeten!
                Enno

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: "Packet received for invalid port" msg in WinQVT/Net
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:32:13 GMT

In article <martin.713581093@zen| martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au (Martin Caden) writes:
|In article <1992Aug7.173635.29698@tamsun.tamu.edu|, cmenzel@tamsun.tamu.edu
|(Christopher P Menzel) writes:
|| WinQVT/Net works great on my system, but the console frequently fills
|| up with the message "Packet received for invalid port -- reset sent"
|| without there being any obvious (to me) event to trigger it.  Can any
|| TCP/IP gurus out there explain this?
|
|mmmm, this can happen if there's some confusion about what IP number your PC
|is using. ie. if a unix box somewhere thinks that your physical ethernet
|address matches to some IP number that is not the same as the one you have
|configured WinQVTnet for.  When packets arrive at the correct ethernet card but
|are labelled with an IP number that your software does not expect then you can
|get the error message mentioned above.

The way I've heard this explained is that something is trying to talk 
to a "port" that doesn't exist. Apparently the reason you can, for in-
stance, have several telnet sessions AND an FTP session going at the 
same time is that whatever you have a session with is talking to a "port".
Now suppose you kill a session in some abnormal way (or say the FTP 
server abends) and the machine at the other end doesn't realize this. 
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