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From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: Rare Rush item for sale
Organization: The Lemmy Institute Of Wart Removal Technology 
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:20:38 GMT


This message is being posted for a friend without news access. Please
DO NOT reply directly to me.

Rush "Permanent Waves" Test Pressing for sale. Excellent condition.
This is as rare as Rush items come. Asking price $75.00 or best offer.

If you're interested or have more questions mail:

Marc Boire
510309@acadvm1.uottawa.ca


Once again, PLEASE DO NOT reply using the "r" function. Please address
your replies directly to Marc Boire's address above.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention.
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:51:07 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

>      This convention might be considered a pilgrimage, so why not hold it in
> the proverbial Mecca?  I vote Toronto.  I know it would be inconvenient for
> many people, but if you're going to do something of this magnitude you might as
> well go all out.
> 
>                                                   - Paul


	I agree. Even though i live in the midwest, i am probably 
willing to trek to Toronto for the sheer "pilgrimage of it all."
	Imagine -- hundreds of RUSH fans at our own Harmonic Convergence!!

Thomas Beaudoin
From: ddavis@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Donald Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Great Moments in Rush!
Keywords: Rush, Rush, Rush
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:15:23 GMT
Organization: The YYZ Concern


	My favorite Rush moment on a studio album?

	The blistering guitar break on Free Will, Alex's best IMHO.  Just
before the fireworks, Geddy lays down a bass line like storm clouds gathering 
and then POW! Alex just *attacks* it starts out kinda sparse and then tears
into the call and response...each time around, I just want to burst!  By the
time the boyz get back to the verse, I'm so rung out, I need a nap!

	My favorite Rush moment live?

	The extended jam on "Closer To The Heart".  That little 3-chord thing
they do is so simple, yet so damn hot!  But the best part is watching the boyz
run around the stage, mugging to each corner of the crowd, and chasing behind
Neil's kit.  I'll never forget the PoW show in Milwaukee when Alex and Geddy
came to center stage, Alex put his arm around Geddy, Geddy threw it off, the 
boyz engaged in a mock slap fight and then proceeded to chase each other
around behind Neil...  Think you get stuff like that from Dream Theater?
Fuck no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	Rush is and always will be the world's greatest rock-n-roll band,
doubters, you only harm yourself!

						-- YYZ

	"Summer's going fast, nights growing colder. Children growing up,
old friends growing older...time stand still!
From: decostem@IRO.UMontreal.CA (MAD Marc MAD Andre MAD Decoste MAD)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:32:00 GMT
Reply-To: decostem@IRO.UMontreal.CA (MAD Marc MAD Andre MAD Decoste MAD)
Organization: Universite de Montreal


>> have to take a 4 hour bus ride.  Alot of Rush fans already live near by
>
>A 4 Hour Bus Ride from CANADA to NY.  That's some bus!  A 4 Hour Bus Ride from
>Montreal perhaps (not sure on exact time).
>

   There is absolutely NO place in Canada where you can get to NYC in 4
hours if you don't FLY. I think that a plane ride from Montreal to NYC
takes about 2 or 3 hours??? But I know that by car it takes AT LEAST 8
hours from Montreal to NYC. So maybe by boat from Nova Scotia you may get to
NYC in close to a 4 hours time but besides that, you better fly ... fast !!!


   If I would have to vote for a place I would say Toronto for many reasons
and my second choice would be NYC to please all the people saying that NYC
is the only place to do it (I wonder if the even thaught of any other places??)


BYE
MAD

--
Marc-Andre Decoste                 e-mail: decostem@IRO.umontreal.ca
D.I.R.O., Universite de Montreal        Tel: (514) 343-6111 ext 3513
C.P. 6128, Succ. "A", Montreal,                  FAX: (514) 343-5834
(Quebec), Canada, H3C 3J7,... He bedi, bede, bedoo, that's all folks
From: ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: NMS Convention
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:43:51 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

jlarke@css.itd.umich.edu (Jason Larke) writes:

> for spring and summer dates, and not one true fan has suggested the
> 24th of May. It seems to be that we really *must* have it close to this

Yeah, but that is nearing high school exams, and the 24th itself
is when everyone else gathers there for Victoria day.   ;-)

Take care,
Eric

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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: albertr@crchh780.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Albert Reva)
Subject: Re: RUSH CD INTERVIEW?????????
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:18:59 GMT

In article <92254.205119IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, The illustrius Pat Ellis (the DM) <IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
|> I was recently in a record store for the firs time in about
|> 2 or 3 months, as usual I looked over the stores collection of
|> Rush Cd's to see if one of the few I don't have was on sale.
|> In the rack was a cd that seemed to be an Interview.  It was
|> not released by Atlantic records, and stated that it was not
|> new music.  Has anyone else seen this disc, has anyone Heard it?
|> if so is it worth the 13 bucks or should I ignore it??  Drop me a line
|> and let me know if you do..........
|> 
|>                                        Patrick Ellis
|> 
|> 
|> Luck is defined as when preperation meets opportunity.....
|> 
|>                                Neil Peart


You need to be alot more specific...But its probably worth it anyways....
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush's Greatest Moment & Live/Recorded Moments
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:03:43 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Sep9.232936.8101@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin) writes:

>Talk about bootlegs, has anyone checked out one called "Temples of the Syrinx", St. Loui
>St. Louis, 1980?  Actually I'm not even sure it's a bootleg. It may have been 
>at one point, but the sound quality is so darn good...

It was originally a radio broadcast (hence the quality). Then it was
copied by various people in various ways. This is much like the CD boot
called ``Rushian Roulette'' which was a radio broadcast in Holland 
during the Hemispheres tour.

Gregg


-- 
Gregg Jaeger    (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu)     | Tristero?   ______/|/|  Treestero?
Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy)      ------------    (_) \|\|  Trystero?
Boston University, 590 Commonwealth Ave.,Boston MA 02215 --------------------- 
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: d40374w@kaira.hut.fi (Tero Valkonen)
Subject: Re: UK
Organization: The rational midnight star
	<D40374W.92Sep12222809@kaira.hut.fi> <1992Sep12.160525.1@vax1.umkc.edu>
	<9763@pyrdc.UUCP>
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:41:49

In article <9763@pyrdc.UUCP> craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (craig) writes:

   If memory serves, 1978 thru 1980. There is a third release, a live set of
   UK as a trio. All are available on CD, although DM and the live set may be

Jobson/Wetton/Bozzio, right? Could you please list the songs? Thank you
very much. 


--
Tero Valkonen
d40374w@kaira.hut.fi
From: pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Paul G. Ackerman, III)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention.
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:45:12 GMT
Reply-To: pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep08.185934.20587@bnr.ca>, 
albertr@crchh780.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Albert Reva) writes:
>
>What about our international friends?  The only airport that everyone flyes to
>is either LA or NY.  

     Huh?!?  As we all should know YYZ is an international airport.  A lot of
international traffic goes there.

>Fares to NY from anywhere in the USA can often be found for under $200.00,

     Again, huh?!?  The airfare wars are over.  The prices are almost back to
normal.

>plus all the FUN and bootlegs, and number of people no other city can rival 
>that.  

     Ok.  NYC does have a lot of bootleg stuff, but Toronto has a TON of Rush
stuff floating around on their streets.  If you're looking for Rush
paraphernalia you can't beat Toronto.

>NY is also very close to Canada, so our Canadian friends could come with no 
>problems whatsoever...If we are to have it anymore to the south I don't 
>think many Canadians or internationals would come....

     This convention might be considered a pilgrimage, so why not hold it in
the proverbial Mecca?  I vote Toronto.  I know it would be inconvenient for
many people, but if you're going to do something of this magnitude you might as
well go all out.

                                                  - Paul
--
Paul G. Ackerman III    |   Internet addresses:    |"Life is just a candle,  
Rochester Institute of  |pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu| and the dream must give 
   Technology           |          -or-            | it flame."             
Rochester, New York, USA|pga0625@ultb.isc.rit.edu  |               - N. Peart
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Caress of Steel Rarities
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:18:51 GMT
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx

A while back somebody posted here saying that they had
Caress of Steel live show(s) to trade. I neglected to save
this person's name...so if you were that person, or if you
have any CoS boots to trade, lte me know. I have some good
stuff to trade in return.

--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: mmarx@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Matthew Marx)
Subject: Re: Why does Presto usually get a bad rap?
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:03:14 GMT

In <1992Sep10.172329.13517@news.iastate.edu> irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt) writes:

>From my own experience, Presto is a very 'dark' Rush album.  The monochromatic
>cover art is the first tip off.  The songs themselves, with the exception of
>"Presto", "Superconductor", and "Red Tide" are fairly awash in dark sounding
>chords and such.  Presto is a great album to listen to if you are depressed
>or wish to become such.  Presto is certainly energetic, but in a darker
>manner then HYF and RTB.  

Reminds me of Moving Pictures sometimes -- also very dark, especially
the beginning and end of the disc.



>-- 
>   _IanSchmidt(oINet+irsman@iastate.edu,oBITNET+twbv4@isuvax,$C000,Data)
>     Data  dc i'Apple IIgs,Rush,Tiny Toons,Dave Barry,David Letterman'
> "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will" - Neil Peart
-- 
Matt Marx     mmarx@csli.stanford.edu           
No News (is bad news)
No mail for mmarx (is worse)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention.
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:25:49 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

> My vote is to do this in the summer. July or August would be best. If we try to do this  
> during spring break or fall break, many colleges vacations don't line up. We should start  
> organizing this soon and see if the group just might want to drop by...
> --
> Robert Seymour				rseymour@reed.edu

	I agree that it should be next summer, and i suggest late June
or early-to-mid July.  If we wait until August, we may start interfering with
school schedules.  Are there lots of SUPER 8 or MOTEL 6s in Toronto?

Thomas Beaudoin
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: non-elevation
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:00:47 GMT

In article <J0X9PB1w165w@eebbs.isis.org> ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin) writes:
>> He is actually singing "ESCALATE" not "ESCAVATE". 
                                          ^^^^^^^^

>
>Ah, so that's it.  I only listened to it once, and I didn't see
>how escavate actually fit in.
>
>> I don't have to explain why, do I?
  For one, escavate is not a word. And if you mean excavate...
>
>Sure, go for it.  ;-)
>
>Take care,
>Eric
>
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From: fultonja@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Andy Fulton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention.
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:01:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


  I, too vote Toronto for the convention.  I live pretty far away, but I have
wanted to make a "pligrimage" there fore some time, just to see the home which
nurtured the Greatest Band In Existence into being.  I, for one, would be
willing to go this great distance to congregate with hundreds (thousands?) of
other Rush fans.

  Cost: $0.02.

  \/ (Peace), [] (Love), & :) (Happiness),
  Andy Fulton

  "Who can face the knowledge that the truth is not the truth?"
                                                  - N. Peart
  Andy Fulton
  fultonja@feserve.cc.purdue.edu
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention.
Date: 6 Sep 92 20:17:51 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Sep6.143752.1@vax1.umkc.edu> tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu writes:

>	So, alt.music.rush'ers, when is our first Rush Convention
>going to be .. and WHERE?  (Toronto?)

How about North of Toronto? :)


Gregg


-- 
Gregg Jaeger    (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu)     | Tristero?   ______/|/|  Treestero?
Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy)      ------------    (_) \|\|  Trystero?
Boston University, 590 Commonwealth Ave.,Boston MA 02215 ---------------------
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Neil Peart Book?
Keywords: Neil, Peart
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:26:06 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Sep9.035610.29011@reed.edu> rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour) writes:

>	A while ago (a year or so...) I remember a friend of mine who is also an avid rush fan  
>mentioned that Neil Peart was publishing a book with writings from his journal, specifically of the  
>mountain bike trip he took in Africa. I think this was just after A Show of Hands. Has anyone heard  
>about this? I looked in booklists for a while, but never saw anything by Neil. If you know fo this  
>book or any other work he has done, please email me or respond by post. Thank you.


Neil answered this question recently in an NMS interview (I believe) and
he said there were no plans nor were any likely -- he has written some
things during his travels and has written some poetry that only his
friends have seen, but none of it is for public consumption. Bummer...


Gregg

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Gregg Jaeger    (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu)     | Tristero?   ______/|/|  Treestero?
Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy)      ------------    (_) \|\|  Trystero?
Boston University, 590 Commonwealth Ave.,Boston MA 02215 ---------------------
From: fultonja@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Andy Fulton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: NMS Convention
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:24:11 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


4th of July sounds cool.  I also think that the 24th of May would be cool, but
this is a holiday in Canada, and if we want to gather there, we would have to
compete with lots of Canadians who are there for a Victoria Day celebration.
(EVERYONE would gather on the 24th of May...).
Or maybe we could try Bastille Day (July 14) but that may pose the same
problem...

"We're only immortal for a limited time."

  \/ (Peace), [] (Love), & :) (Happiness),
  Andy Fulton
From: schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: NMS Convention
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:21:03 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


Right now how do we get everything together (reservation, money)

REgards
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: proth@sparc27.cs.uiuc.edu (Philip Roth)
Subject: Re: Why does Presto usually get a bad rap?
Keywords: Presto
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:17:34 GMT

In article <95706@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
...
>Available Light!''. I don't know how attachments grow with various
>people, but I venture that many like ``The Pass'' alot; I myself
>have a special attachment to ``Chain Lightning'' which, incidentally,

I could never understand the popularity of "The Pass."  My
personal tastes on the album are best served by "Show Don't Tell"
and especially "Scars" ( isn't that the name? );  "Scars" has
its best moment before the final chorus, with Peart's two
big bass hits and a snare, then Lifeson's rhythm guitar with
the chorus.  I usually crank "Available Light" as well, but
mostly for the END of the chorus when the accompaniment drops
out and Geddy Lee sings "...in the available light."
Unfortunately, I've got to listen to "Hand Over Fist" to get
there ( not a personal favorite, but its good for me... )

>
>What is it about the production that makes the album seem
>lifeless? I think that the factor that gives the

The production seems cold, to me, because of its
clarity and polish.  These sound like they'd be good things
to have, and they are to an extent, but they can be overdone
to the point where the sound is too perfect.
These are tough concepts to quantify, especially since
I am no production expert, and just stating opinions.
I DID like the sparser arrangements of Presto, vs. HYF.

>consider the album `lifeless' though, certainly not any
>more than _Permanent Waves_ (which BTW also has a black
>and white color)...

Interesting note about the cover being black and white - 
and that affecting attitudes toward the music.  I must
not like red, though, because I just don't care for HYF
much at all. 

>
>Gregg

Phil
From: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Why does Presto usually get a bad rap?
Date: 11 Sep 1992 17:59:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, proth@sparc27.cs.uiuc.edu (Philip Roth) says:

>I could never understand the popularity of "The Pass."  My
>personal tastes on the album are best served by "Show Don't Tell"
>and especially "Scars" ( isn't that the name? );  "Scars" has
>its best moment before the final chorus, with Peart's two
>big bass hits and a snare, then Lifeson's rhythm guitar with
>the chorus.

   I agree completely!  "The Pass" is interesting in an abstract sort
of way, but fails to reach me in the emotional manner that it seems
that the subject matter warrants--which is surprising, considering such
songs as "Afterimage".  (Incidentally, I thought that this was one of
the very rare Rush songs which was improved by seeing the video.)
   On the other hand, "Scars" is just awesome!  This may be due to the
fact that I listened to it a lot while going through an emotionally
rocky phase, but it has a power to it that transcends its "dance"-
type qualitites.  The lead into the chorus mentioned above is the
best--a contender for my favorite "emotive moment."
   I think one of the things which is disappointing about _Presto_
is the fact that Neil seems to have taken a back seat in half of the
songs.  Instead of being a musician, he starts to sound like a typical
rock-band beat-supplier.  (For example, the beginning of "Available
Light" (which I like), and parts of both "The Pass" and "Presto".)
A lot of the life goes out of these songs because it seems like the
life is gone from Neil's playing.  One of the things which I admire
about Neil is his ability to make the drums be another instrument,
as fully contributing to the mood of the song as the guitars, bass,
or vocals.  On _Presto_ (and even _Roll_The_Bones_), this isn't
always the case.
   Well, that's my theory on why _Presto_ disappoints a lot of people.
I like the album, but it's nowhere near my favorite(s).  Hope I didn't
put you all to sleep (prechance to dream).....
   With senses amplified,

		-EMeyer

-- 
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 Atmospheric disturbance--the feverish flux  |---------------------------------
 Of human interface and interchange-"  -N.P. |    "What do you think, sirs?"
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: albertr@crchh780.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Albert Reva)
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 19:13:25 GMT

I hate to persist....but New York is the only place that not only everyone knows, but it would be alot of fun too!  As I stated in previous post, Canadians would find this location an excellent choice since they would only have to take a 4 hour bus ride.  Alot of Rush fans already live near by (Boston, Jersey, Penn, etc)
the rest can simply fly...C'mon is very affordable to fly to New York, and we could probably stay at other Rush fans houses....

albertr
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 20:51:19 EDT
From: The illustrius Pat Ellis (the DM) <IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: RUSH CD INTERVIEW?????????

I was recently in a record store for the firs time in about
2 or 3 months, as usual I looked over the stores collection of
Rush Cd's to see if one of the few I don't have was on sale.
In the rack was a cd that seemed to be an Interview.  It was
not released by Atlantic records, and stated that it was not
new music.  Has anyone else seen this disc, has anyone Heard it?
if so is it worth the 13 bucks or should I ignore it??  Drop me a line
and let me know if you do..........

                                       Patrick Ellis


Luck is defined as when preperation meets opportunity.....

                               Neil Peart
From: decostem@IRO.UMontreal.CA (MAD Marc MAD Andre MAD Decoste MAD)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The First Annual RUSH (or NMS?) Convention.
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:22:47 GMT
Reply-To: decostem@IRO.UMontreal.CA (MAD Marc MAD Andre MAD Decoste MAD)
Organization: Universite de Montreal

>>>	So, alt.music.rush'ers, when is our first Rush Convention
>>>going to be .. and WHERE?  (Toronto?)
>> 
>>How about North of Toronto? :)
>
>How about In Buffalo?
>;)
>

   Come on guys, if we want to have a convention on RUSH we have to go to
RUSHTOWN !!!


BYE
MAD



--
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D.I.R.O., Universite de Montreal        Tel: (514) 343-6111 ext 3513
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(Quebec), Canada, H3C 3J7,... He bedi, bede, bedoo, that's all folks