From: mmoore@itchy.dsd.es.com (Michael Moore)
Subject: Re: Mucus... how good is he? 
Organization: Evans & Sutherland
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:38:07 GMT

In article <BsxLM7.7up.2@cs.cmu.edu> hill@norman.VI.RI.CMU.EDU (Robert Hill) writes:
>Michael Moore writes
>> 	spaceace, amazing, ginger lynn, duck dodgers, freekill, hector,
>> red shirt, mergatroid, videodrome, zznewguy, gadfly, mojo, wreck,
>> mr. wizard, quodavis, sandia, spaceman spiff, eek, yea boy!!!,
>> washout, ayeser, d'spayre, drewskii, luri, mind crime, rjones, 
>> darkhorse, fillintheblank, old nick, icarus, bav, spaceghost, beck,
>> balton, helix, sunscreamer, and myself.
>
>Now in all seriousness, most of these players are not as good as mucus.   
>Some are very good, and some may even be better.  I can only count 8 that  
>*MAY* be better than mucus.  About 10 or so (including the 8) may be his  
>equal.  The rest, i'm sorry to say, isn't as good.  This is not a slam to  
>any of these players, however, mucus is VERY good.
>

	Well, you and FillInTheBlank both seem to agree here.  Where
we differ is that I don't consider MUCUS to be the best.  In all
the time I have played with him and against him (and its been quite
a lot) I have never considered him any more a threat than the
above.  And rarely does he surprise me.

	If you consider him a great player that is certainly fine,
and I would not be surprised to find that I am in the minority on
this.  But that's my opinion.   I find all of the above to be his equal
or better.

>MUCUS is certainly in the top 5 oggers in my opinion.  MUCUS is in the top  
>12 players in the game, and i'm very pleased when he is on my team.  I  
>think that it is very hard to say "who" is in the top 5.  You see, it  
>really depends on what you want in a player.  I know if I wanted a scout  
>bomber, i'd choose mergatroid over mucus, but if I wanted an ogger, i'd  
>choose mucus over mergatroid.
>

	I have little trouble stopping a MUCUS ogg.  He is quite
obvious about it and rarely surprises me.  He is not exceptional
at phaser locks, and I can often swerve past him whilst he phasers
three or four times.  Others, whom are not constant oggers, do tend
to surprise me because I am not watching them constantly.   But in
general a good player should watch everyone, it isn't hard.


>I am surprised that you can out dogfight him.  When mucus doesn't want to  
>die, his dogfighting is top notch.  I rarely dogfight ANY his equal.
>

	Well, maybe I've suddenly developed an ego, but I have little
trouble matching him in space holding and planetary defense.  Often
we mutual, but if anyone lives, it is more likely to be me.
	
>> 	I was quite lagged at the time I was referring to, and once
>> lag got better you heard no more taunting from him.  I don't care what
>> people say, I can handle Mucus anyday.  
>
>I wish I could.  If mucus is on the other team, I MUST watch him every  
>second, or I will quickly find myself choosing another ship.  I used to  
>think his ogging was overrated too.  He has put me in my place.
>
>-Michael (Ged..

	Anyone who cannot watch for oggers, and cannot pinpoint those
who ogg the most in a game, is not a top notch player.  Unless I am
incredibly involved, I have little trouble watching MUCUS and other
potential oggers.  Most of the time they don't make a move, but when
they do I'm generally ready for it.  I'm rather amazed you use the
fact that you have to watch him constantly as proof of his ability.

	But whatever.  Whether or not I am right about mucus being
a good player is fairly irrelevant to the reason why I started this
thread.  I think most of us would agree that the reason the cult of
the MUCUSAI has popped up is because of his persona and the fact
that he is a top-notch player.  Whether he is in the top 5, 10, 30
or whatever is fairly irrelevant.


	-Michael (Ged)
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