From: parsons@cis.ksu.edu (Scott S Parish )
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: THE MIND OF THE BIBLE BELIEVER
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:55:07 GMT
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drake+@cs.cmu.edu (Drake) writes:
>mmeyer@m2.dseg.ti.com (Mark Meyer) writes:

>>	She would probably do the same for you, and I presume you are
>>still capable of reproduction.  So love never evolved a switch that
>>shuts off when the object is beyond the age of fertility; it doesn't
>>surprise me.  

>No, it WAS evolved.  Humanity evolved away from it.  Certain animals eat
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>their young when there are too many of them.  In other animal cultures,
>the old are killed when they become feeble and infirm.  (Pigs come to mind
>for the former, wolves for the latter; I'm not positive on either one, just
>going from memory.)  Humans sacrifice themselves rather than another.
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>Exceedingly irrational.

This is the BIGGEST croc of doo-doo I've heard in a while.  Humans either
do this now or are quite close, IMO.  

"Certain animals eat their young when there are too many of them."  Heck,
Humans don't need any reason other than convenience to kill their young--
they don't even wait until they are out of the womb to do it either!  We've
glorified the slaughter of children by proclaiming it a "liberty" and a
"choice."  Boy, what a choice.  Humans sacrifice themselves rather than
another, ha.

"[T]he old are killed when they become feeble and infirm."  No, in the
animal kingdom they usually fall prey to other species--wolves generally
don't off old wolves just because they are feeble.  Humans, on the other 
hand, generally get a doctor to help them along (Dr. Jack the Dripper) 
and we call it our "Right to Die".  Humans haven't quite reached the 
point where we just go ahead and off our infirm, but we are darn close.  
Consider the "Right to Die" movement in CA, which placed an initiative 
on the ballot this past election.  When we legalize physician assisted 
suicide in this country, IMO, we have co-opted our highest principles.  
We start down the proverbial slippery-slope; "Just think of how much
money we'll save on medical expenses".  It then won't be long before we 
do start offing our elderly, mentally ill, and chroniclly ill.  And, 
for a classic example of killing off the feeble and infirm, lest you 
forget it still does occur, see Nazi Germany.  We've evolved away from 
it, geez.

Now, the post-face this, I realize we were talking about sacrifice in
the name of "love."  But the comment in the above paragraph begged to
be answered.  To think we are any less savage than wolves just because 
we are human is naive.  To think we have somehow "evolved" beyond the
sacrificing of "others" is also naive.   From the cradle (womb),
to the grave, we still "sacrifice" others for our convienience.  We
have not "evolved" away from it; we have just become more "civilized"
in the means.  We have also learned to adopt phrases to lessen the
impact of our decisions (ie "choice", "liberty", "right").

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