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From: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: PageMaker 4.2 & MS Word 5.0 -- Can They Get Along?
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:39:20 GMT
Reply-To: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

I found recently that PageMaker 4.2 doesn't important files from Word 5.0
nor does it from WordPerfect 2.0. What's the problem with PageMaker?
The READ ME file included in PageMaker says that the 4.2 version was 
released before Word 4.0 was shipped, and suggests that fast-save option
be turned off, which may solve the problem. But it doesn't! 

Does anyone have come up with a solution? Suggestions will be appreciated.
From: lee@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Peter Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: * Review: Infini-D 2.0
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:03:32 GMT
	<LEE.92Aug17230143@snoopy.cs.umass.edu> <59771@mimsy.umd.edu>
Reply-To: lee@cs.umass.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Software Development Lab, UMass, Amherst
In-reply-to: folta@cs.umd.edu's message of 19 Aug 92 03:13:46 GMT

In article <59771@mimsy.umd.edu> folta@cs.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) writes:
From: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Virtual Desktop
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:33:34 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

yuan@asis.unimelb.EDU.AU (William Yuan) writes:

>        Is there an startup INIT/control panel CDEV/ or application which
>allows you to have a virtual desktop similar to the one available in
>XWindows.

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but there is a small application
called "NeXT Browser" which gives you an alternative view of the
file/folder hierarchy; presumably like the file manager of the NeXT
computer. I imagine there are commercial Finder replacements which
do this too...

-Ralph
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: Look & Feel
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<D88-JWA.92Aug17212850@dront.nada.kth.se>
	<lsr-190892144921@lsr.taligent.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:40:26 GMT

> lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein) writes:

   I'm sure other patented devices get "re-discovered" all the time.

Yes, but if they're re-discovered easily enough (mind you, I
was 17 or so for one or two re-discoveries) they ought to be
trivial enough that the patent should not have been granted in
the first place.

   > What if someone painted a painting of an apple, and forbade
   > everyone else to paint apples. That's the kind of patents we
   > get now. However, using the EXACT SAME apple (hash function,

   I don't think you can patent a painting.  You can only copyright a
   painting, and I'm sure many paintings are copyrighted.  A copyright doesn't
   prevent someone else from doing another painting of apples as long is it
   isn't a copy of the original work.  

Ah, but now you're speaking for me! A computer program is very
much like a painting (and ALL paintings are, by default, covered
by copyright) - and we already HAVE copyrights for programs.
That's a kind of protection I don't mind, since it protects the
work of the program makers, while leaving the field open for
independent program makers. (I'm now talking about copyright on
executables and source, not on human interface)

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
Newsgroups: utas.general,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Jane Hogan@cc.utas.edu.au (Jane Hogan)
Subject: excel questions
Organization: Computing Centre
Distribution: utas,world
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:20:58 GMT

calling all excel gurus...

The answers to the following questions must be achievable in Excel 2.2 (Mac)

1.
        Is it possible to have superscript and subscript characters in Excel?
        This is just as the heading of a column not in any calculated fields.  
        Have tried formatting it in Word and copy/paste but that didn't work.


2.      Is it possible to set a default font for Excel so that all worksheets 
								use it
         - to avoid setting it for each new worksheet?


3.      A cell contains a particular number which is the result of a formula. 
        Is it possible to insert the  symbol (option w) next to the answer?
        It seems that you can either have the  symbol or the calculated answer
							 but not both?

Thanks in advance

Jane
From: brandt@axon.cs.unc.edu (#66 Andrew Brandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Excel updater 3.0->3.0a
Keywords: excel, update
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:58:37 GMT

I checked sumex but could not find the updater to make Excel run with
the Quadra's cache turned on. 

Could some one email me a binhexed version or tell me where I can ftp it?

I found the MS Word 5.0a updater, ironically, though.

Andy
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  Andrew Brandt (brandt@cs.unc.edu)        | | ? | |    got into a tub and
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From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Excel 4.0 vs 3.0
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:28:54 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

wengler@ee.rochester.edu (Mikey) writes:

The upgrade is worthwhile.  4.0 is much easier to use and inlcudes a
customizable ribbon bar.  The help is excellent as are the software
"wizards" which take you through takss step by step.  Get the upgrade from
Mac Zone for $88 and overnight delivery.  I didn't get an upgrade notice
either.
-Terrye

>2) I have seen an upgrade kit advertised as available to excel 1.5 and
>2.2 users.  Why are not 3.0 users included?  Do we get the upgrade for
>free?

>3) Is the upgrade worthwhile?

>Help with information!  Bill sure isn't to his registered victims.

>Mike

>-- 
>My situation is hopeless,		wengler@ee.rochester.edu
>but not serious.			weng@uordbv  (bitnet)
>					ur-valhalla!wengler
From: Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Works
Distribution: world
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:47:58 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

There are so many Works programs.  Which one is best?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995
From: pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: OPI Servers (Color Central, PServe, Etc...).
Keywords: OPI
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:34:39 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

If you are currently using the Open Prepress Interface specification to
speed up your handling of multi-megabyte scans, I'd like to hear from
you!

I am especially interested in trading war stories with users of
Compumation's Color Central and COPS's ADServe product.

Drop me a note by email.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: phrje@warwick.ac.uk (Dr D McK Paul)
Subject: Nisus on Powerbook
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:17:26 GMT

We are just about to get a powerbook with 8Mb of memory and was wondering
which was the best wordprocessor to use. Can I get away with using the full
version of Nisus in a Ramdisk or do I have to pay $120 dollars for the version
specially designed for Powerbooks? Any advice or comments would be
appreciated.

Prof Don Paul
Department of Physics
University of Warwick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: knguyen@emr1.emr.ca (Kim Nguyen)
Subject: MacWrite II : Automatic Stationery Format ?
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:28:49 GMT

Hi netters,
According to the document, I create an Automatic Stationery file called
"MacWrite II Options" as my default setting, and put it in System Folder.
Upon opening, it just gives me the standard format. Again, I put "MacWrite
II Options in Preferences Folder, but to no avail.
Can any friends out there give me hints ?
Thanks for your help.
From: davidm@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (David Morgenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Comments on Miracle Piano teaching system
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:14:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: San Francisco State University

I think that the cost of the "Miracle" piano system is a lot to
find out that you don't really want to learn to play the piano. My
wife is a piano teacher and has a number of students who discover
that they have to practice -- there's no getting around it.
Practice makes perfect.

So I'd find a nice teacher (like my wife)
and either rent a piano, or if you're at a school with a music
department, sign up for a half hour of practice time a day. Try
this out for a month and see if you are really committed to
learning piano...

david 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: poorman@convex.com (Peter Poorman)
Subject: Re: Backup -- FTP ???
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:40:54 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug20.002102.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:

>I'm looking for a good/descent shareware hardisk backup program 
>which is available via FTP.

I don't think there are any.  The commercial packages have gotten so cheap
that nobody bothers to write shareware.

I personally use Redux.  It costs $49 from MacConnection.  Excellent, elegant
user interface.  Reuses space that contained deleted files.  Does NOT do
compression.  Is smart enough to do finder-readable copying if the backup
device can hold the entire backup on one volume.  Highly recommended.

Several people I know use DiskFit Pro.  $72 from MacConnection.  It DOES do
compression.  

Some folks love FastBack II.  I found the tech support from Fifth Generation
Systems to be so bad that I returned the software.  $125 from MacConnection.

Retrospect gets excellent reviews.  Our corporate office uses the Remote
version for a centralized backup facility.  $147 and $264, respectively.

Hope this helps!

-- Pete Poorman
   poorman@convex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Jazz File Conversion?
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:09:30 EST
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In case anyone might be interested, I thought I would post the result of my
recent adventure.  The problem was to find a way to get the data from a
Jazz database into some other format.

One E-mail response suggested that Lotus 123 for Mac might be able to open
Jazz
files.  However, I haven't been able to verify this.

After much trial and error, I was able to transfer data out of Jazz,
although the method would only work for small files.  I am working with a
bit-copied backup of the original release of Jazz, that requires you to
boot from a 400k startup disk.  It only works on an old machine such as the
Mac Plus.  Since the system on this disk is very old, it didn't recognize
the directory on the hard drive.  I determined that the file had to reside
on the startup disk, be copied to the hard drive after booting, and then be
deleted from the startup disk.  Although it may not have been necessary, I
deleted the printer driver as well.  The Jazz program is on a second 400k
disk that is full.

I opened the Jazz file.  It is a data base file, although it looked like a
spreadsheet.  I selected the entire data field using command-A, and copied
it to the clipboard.  I opened the scrapbook, and pasted the data into it. 
I then quit the program, and deleted the original file from the hard drive.
 It turned out to be necessary to make as much room on the startup disk as
possible, since the old system saves the clipboard on that disk, and also
needed space to save the scrapbook.

I then went to my Mac IIfx and copied the scrapbook file to the system
folder, after renaming the existing one.  I opened Excel 2.2a to a clean
spreadsheet.  I clicked in the upper left corner, to select the entire
sheet.  I then opened the scrapbook, copied and pasted into the
spreadsheet.  Surprise!  the original data fell perfectly into place. 
There was an error message stating that the data being pasted didn't match
the selected area, but that was OK.

I could have stopped here, but decided to go further.  I saved the file,
and then "saved as" a file using the SYLK format.  I then created a
Filemaker Pro database that had as many fields per record, as there were
column headings in the original data, naming them each the same as the
respective column heading.  I then was able to import the SYLK file into
the database.  Again, it worked perfectly.  It was only necessary to delete
the first record, which contained the column headings.

Sorry to bore you, but I wanted to pass this along, in case anyone might be
able to use it.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: dlbg1912@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David L. Berk)
Subject: Extension to inhibit superimposition of startup icons?
Summary: Extension to inhibit superimposition of startup icons?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:46:25 GMT

Hi,

I know there must be something out there that will cause the startup
icons on my humble 9-inch SE screen to begin a new row of marching icons
*above* the initial row to avoid the superimposing of icons.

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

d-berk@uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: pollard@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Tom Pollard)
Subject: Re: AutoDoubler conflict?
Organization: Center for Biomolecular Simulation
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 03:16:25 GMT

t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson) writes:
>The other day I tried to defragment my harddisk by using the Norton Speed Disk,
>but instead of a faster disk, I only got a crashed system file. Is Norton
>Utilities incompatible with AutoDoubler, which I have installed?
>
Norton Speed Disk should be, by definition, completely compatible with 
AutoDoubler because, to Speed Disk, a file is a file is a file.  I have had
no trouble using the two together since they were released.  A more likely
possibility would be that your disk was damaged before you tried to run 
Speed Disk; did you run Disk Doctor before defragmenting?  

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: copy protection/licensing solution?
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:48:43 GMT

.edu> Robert.H.Gross@dartmouth.edu (Robert H. Gross) writes:

   This would periodically "purge" non-valid copies, would put some burden
   on the user, and would avoid the key disk kinds of copy protections
   while still protecting the company's interests.

   Is this too much trouble for the user? Is it preferable to the disk
   based copy protection?

   PS - the above assumes that there is a valid way to check the date/time
   on the computer that cannot be fooled by just changing the clock - this
   can be done.


You can't know wether the time is right.

You can't beat a hacker patching the code.

The user would find it a hassle (but since the initial
payment would be low, maybe this is sort of the way to
go. With an option to auto-upgrade by modem, of course :-)

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
From: george@mech.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: How to convert: KAPS-TEXT => lower case
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:09:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Mechanical Engineering


:a word). In Word 5.0 I wasn't even able to change 
:everything in lower case (only to change everything
:in Kaps works). Maybe a hint whether an other word-

case conversion is one of the ( few ) actual features
microsoft added to word with version 5.  It can do
'all upper', 'all lower', 'sentence', 'swap case', etc.

this is a real RTFM.. ( hint: its a command, not a style option )



Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:13560 comp.mail.misc:2710 comp.sys.mac.comm:8116
From: hontanon@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Ramon J. Hontanon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.mail.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: POP servers and clients
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:07:52 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm


Hello All:

I'm trying to set up four Mac's with mail clients that will talk to
another Mac which will run the server software. Thus far, I'm the most
impressed with MailStop (POP2 server), and Eudora (POP3 client), but
I'm afraid they're incompatible. Also tried POPMail, the client for
MailStop, but it does not allow for periodic connections to the mail
server, and I'd like the user to be notified as soon as mail arrives.

- Are there any other mail server packages for the Mac out there? (I think
  I wanna use Eudora as the client for the notification feature).

- POPmail has a notify_user_when_mail_arrives switch, but I can't get
  it to work. Any experiences?

Thanks in advance.

Ramon 
  
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From: koby@libra.math.tau.ac.il (Gabai Koby)
Subject: monitor a9m0308
Organization: School of Math & CS - Tel Aviv University , Tel Aviv , ISRAEL.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:41:30 GMT


hello
i have a monitor --- apple rgb color monitor
                     model a9m0308

i dont have the pin out list of the 15 pin d-type connector
can anyone help?
thanks koby

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Daniel Schwabe <schwabe@inf.puc-rio.br>
Subject: Re: Extension to inhibit superimposition of startup icons?
Organization: Departamento de Informatica    PUC-Rio
X-Xxdate: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:41:41 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6B80E2555021802@mac-dan.inf.puc-rio.br>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:48:18 GMT
X-Posted-From: mac-dan.inf.puc-rio.br
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

IconWrap doesn't solve my problems either. What baffles me is that
depending on the particular set of extensions I have on, the icons
SOMETIMES wrap and sometimes overlap. Moreover, the particular place
where they cease to wrap/start to overlap also changes, and is never the
exact place where a previously active extension was present (and whose
removal caused the change)!
On a similar topic (I already have asked about it but have never received
a satisfactory answer), I would like to have the startup icons show up
OVER my startup screen. For some reason, the startup screen shows up, and
then a grey pattern appears and the icons begin to "march".  This is
actually true even if I have no extensions active - just the gray pattern
appears, and then the usual finder desktop.
Can anybody explain what is going on?

Daniel Schwabe                  Dept. de Informatica, PUC-Rio
Tel: +55-21-529 9544/274 4449   R. M. de S. Vicente, 225
Fax: +55-21-511 5645            Rio de Janeiro, RJ 22454-970, Brasil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: knguyen@emr.ca (Khanh Kim Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Canvas vs MacDraw PRO
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: emr
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:01:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.143326.20306@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
tjohnson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd R Johnson) wrote:
> 
> In article <Bstu8D.BJL@hpbs654.boi.hp.com> kmarko@hpbs654.boi.hp.com (Kurt Marko) writes:
> >I would take a serious look at Intellidraw from Aldus.  They were
> >demo'ing it at Macworld, and claimed it was released, but I haven't
> >found anyone who has it in stock yet.
> 
> I bought a copy last Friday from our Campus Computer Store. They had
> to "run to the dock" to get it, so I assume that it had just come in.
> Educational price was $94. I bought it after reviewing all of the
> flowcharting applications and finding all of them inadequate for even
> the simplest diagram. IntelliDraw gives me what I need: a complete
> drawing program with connectors that stay anchored to objects. It also
> contains many new related features. IntelliDraw represents a new
> generation of drawing programs (at least on the Mac). I think it is
> the most significant advance in drawing programs since MacDraw.
> 
> A review of Intellidraw is in the 8/3 issue of MacWeek. 
> 
> 	---Todd
--------------------------------------
When asking Todd R. Johnson to have a rough comparison between Canvas and
Intelligent, he gives me more info about the latter as follows :

I don't use Canvas, but according to the MacWeek review there are some
features it has (particularly when it comes to text formatting) that
IntelliDraw doesn't have. Because of this they give Canvas an overall
rating of 4 and IntelliDraw a rating of 3. The problem, of course, is that
all of the innovative new features in Intellidraw---those that really
define a new breed of drawing program---are missing from Canvas. Like any
program introduces a new methodology, Intellidraw needs some work. The
reviewers commented that the "best" drawing program would combine the best
features of IntelliDraw and Canvas.

For my work I really need the features in IntelliDraw, so I chose it over
Canvas. The the things they really disliked about IntelliDraw are:

1. No fill patterns---only color fills.

2. Lack of text formatting options. Text can however be wrapped to fit
inside objects.

3. No support for bit-map editing.

4. Poor manuals.
------------
Hope this help someone.
Khanh Kim, Nguyen
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