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From: pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What is Arnie doing ??
Date: 15 Aug 92 23:37:31 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

ME writes:

>In article <1992Aug6.104523.8544@daimi.aau.dk> jsd@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Steen Due) writes:
>>Well the subject says it all - What is Arnold Schwarzenegger doing theese 
>>days ??

I don't know, but I know what he should be doing - making 
no-intellectual-excuse action films for me to watch, like Predator,
Terminator / Terminator II, Total Recall,
 (these are quite better than Running Man, "I do not know the name but
arnie plays a cop that penetrates and blows a gangster organization")
he is 'perfect' for these cartoon pictures, which I miss( I want
one each year).
   He should think about other people! Nobody lives forever, and in 40
years I'd say he'd have a hard time shooting the Predator movie once
more. So he ought to do as many films as possible, while it is
possible.

(Having learnt from past experiences, I'd better add, that the above
is not my very serious etc. opinion, and that I know other people
than Arnold Schwarzenegger(boy I guess that name suits him;
Schwarzenegger is a 'suitable' name for this 'type', Sylvester Stallone
is not a suitable name for anybody, not even the one who goes by
this name) have a say in how and when he participates in a movie).

And finally, yes I do see 'real movies', like decalog(?), Veronikas 2 ?,
Barton Fink and Monsieur Hire.(this was some sort of disclaimer?)
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From: dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner)
Subject: Re: What was Godzilla's name in japanese?
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 06:29:55 GMT

Gojira, the nickname of a Toho employee, comes from the combination
of the Japanese word for whale, kujira, and the word gorilla.


David Milner  Columbia University
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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Wasted talents
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:03:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.123317.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
> 
>I've been told to avoid his film with Sean Young: _Love Crimes_, and other
>opinions about it?  Any other Bergin films out there?
>

Try _Highway to Hell_, a small horror film made several years ago which
has been touring art houses and specialty theaters recently.  Bergin
has a small part as Beezle.  You guess what the name means.


--
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Me? Speak for Compaq?  Yeah, right.   lots of rules and no mercy.
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From: iandu@quay.ie
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:28:01 GMT
Organization: Quay Financial Software

In our degenerative home we call it the "but-buts".
-- 
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From: dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar)
Subject: Re: Ghandi (Was Re: terminator ii)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:28:31 GMT

malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra) writes:

>This film is very well made.  Considering that it was made by
>a foreigner makes the whole effort even more respectable. 
>The only thing I did not like about this film was
>the unjustified emphasis on the news reporters from 
>"Time" magazine and something else.  

I don't want to get into a debate about what was and was not
correct in the film, and I don't disagree with your assertion
that it was "well made." I would just say again that, as with
any "historical" film, the actual truth is much more complicated
than the celluloid truth. This movie was supposed to be a tribute
to the man, so it did not show his faults [surely he wasn't perfect],
and it showed those that he disagreed with as one-dimensional 
villains [from Jinnah to Gandhi's Hindu murderer]. Unfortunately,
in order to work as a tribute to Gandhi, the film had to promote
a specific interpretation of history that doesn't necessarily 
reflect the facts of Independence.

I think you'll find just about any other "historical" film will
have similar characteristics.

-hd
From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Robert De Niro
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:02:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Marc North writes:

>Hi all,                            

>Can anyone out there tell me of any major interviews
>(magazines or any print media) or any biographies of
>Mr. De Niro?  I'm desperate for info on him,
>especially to do with his training and his early stage work.
                      
>Desperate....     

An upcoming promo for Whoopi Goldberg's new talk
show showed De Niro's name real fast (among Billy
Crystal, Robin Williams, and others.) I assume this means
he's actually going to do one with her. I hope so, De Niro
is notorious for never giving interviews, and I've only
seen one in the past ten years which could be considered
in-depth. If anyone knows when this show is going to
air, please post.


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
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 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
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From: hartley@centerline.com (Timm Hartley)
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: CenterLine Software
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:26:06 GMT

In article <8059@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu
(Nancy M. Schnepp) wrote:
> 
> The TV Guide has an article this week about "zapping".
> In other words, channel scanning. 
> At our house we call our remote "the clicker".  Hand
> me "the clicker" is lots quicker than saying, "hand
> me the remote control", don't you think??   Hah!

In our house there is a constant battle for controll of the remote (balance
of power being in my corner) and I have a tendancy to channel surf (we have
9 premium pay channels). So we refer to the remote as "it". Example: "Ok,
so where is it??!???!??!" All of this is accompanied by the appropriate
miming, of  course :-)

       Timm Hartley I Production Assistant
CenterLine Software I hartley@centerline.com
      10 Fawcett St I "Back off man! Don't 
Cambridge, MA 02138 I make me use this!!"
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:08:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.202136.29952@sco.COM> maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes) writes:
>In article <1992Aug16.164615.14796@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>>In article <713984254@danube.cs.duke.edu> 
>>malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra) writes:
>>
>>>>   Mary Elisabeth Mastrantonio  (The Abyss -  White Sands - Robin Hood)
>>
>>Nice tits.  Is she notable for anything else?
>
>Nope.
>

Actually, I thought she did a pretty good job of acting in The Abyss.
Besides which, being a Cameron film, it's extremely rewatchable.

GMS
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:04:34 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes of Woody Allen and
Sun-Yi:

>I am merely stating the obvious, that
>intercourse with the sister of your children, and the daughter of
>your common law spouse, and a person for whom you have essentially
>been a father to for a decade is the moral equivalent of incest...

I'm seeking information here, not arguing..

The young woman at the center of this was the daughter of Andre Previn, and 
Woody and Mia lived in separate places (although I assume that they spent 
more than a few nights at each other's).

Is there _any_ reason to think that Woody was the girl's "father figure" 
and not Andre Previn?  Either you folks have heard things I haven't (quite 
possible) or you're making some pretty big assumptions (also quite possible).
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
From: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:33:51 GMT
Reply-To: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
Organization: Self employed, eh.
Originator: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com

We call ours "Norman" after the famous Canadian TV commercial that
featured a hound dog named Norman being told to change the channels,
turn up the volume, etc. by his lazy master.  Norman got himself a
remote and the name has stuck!  :-)
-- 
Diane Barlow Close
	close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com 
	I'm at lunch today.  :-)
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Mel Gibson really CAN act!
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:08:59 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <1992Aug15.231342.3051@daimi.aau.dk> pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) writes:
>serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee) writes:
>
>>How about The Years of Living Dangerously?
>
>Is this the one with Sigourny Weaver, taking place
>in some asian country whose name escapes me at the moment,
>and he or she is a news reporter?

It's Indonesia, during the reign of Sukarno, roughly mid-sixties.
He's a reporter.  She's a diplomat of some sort (English), possibly
an undercover intelligence agent.
Excellent movie, improves on multiple viewings, especially noted
for the Oscar-winning, amazing performance by Linda Hunt.
.
.
.
>
>Anyway, I'm pretty sure the above mentioned film is called
>The Year of Living Dangerously?

yep.

.
.
.
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: ** ultimate classic m
Date: 23 Aug 92 09:11:04 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

MW>>>>   Mary Elisabeth Mastrantonio  (The Abyss -  White Sands - Robin Hood)
MW>>Nice tits.  Is she notable for anything else?
MW>Nope.

     Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio was nominated for Best Supporting Actress
     in 1987, based on her performance as Tom Cruise's girlfriend in
     Scorsese's "The Color Of Money."
---
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From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: list of alan rudolph films?
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:32:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.143858.22508@midway.uchicago.edu> rm34@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Here's the list my memory is providing me of movies directed by Rudolph:
[ List ]

One that you did not mention is "Endangered Species," a neat little
thriller with Robert Urich and JoBeth Williams.  Maltin hated it, but I
liked it a lot.  (Then again, I like Rudolph films-- favorites are
"Choose Me" and "Love at Large.")

 -mm-

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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Pointed Movies (was re: Unforgiven)
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 03:23:29 GMT

I wrote:
>>I will give you that Unfogiven was pretty good story, but what would you say 
>>it's point is?

zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) responded:
>No disrespect meant, but if you are looking for a point, I heartily
>recommend an icepick in the forehead.  Alternatively, Mosfilm is now having
>a garage sale on all the Socialist Realist films ever produced, so if you
>just put together some copecks, you'll never again have to suffer through
>hours upon hours of decadent, pointless, morally bankrupt Western art.

Tee Hee. Now may I suggest that you either read the whole post or not bother
reponding. The person I was responding to said that he felt that there was a
point to the film, and I waas asking him to tell what he thought it was. 
Thanks for your insightful comments, you have really added to the thread.

Michael

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 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
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                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Best performances (Was Re: *GREAT MOVIE ACTORS*)
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 02:24:27 GMT

My award for best performance of all time by a man would go to Paul Scofield
in _A Man for all Seasons_.

My award for best performance of all time by a woman would probably go to
Katharine Hepburn in _A Lion in Winter_ or perhaps Linda Hunt in _The Year of 
Living Dangerously_.

Any Comments, opinions?

Michael

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 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Do the Aliens come from EARTH?
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:12:53 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <rabjab.23.0@golem.ucsd.edu>, by rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof):
> I am fascinated by the thought that there might be a really diabolical side
> of the Company that we haven't seen yet.

Not that I want to defend the Company, but I think it is quite
sinister enough as presented in Alien 3.  I don't need them to be
genocide-committing, baby-eating monsters.  "More of everything" is
not really a good idea.

> it really bothers me that we ended up where we were in film #1: 
> running around in corridors, chased by an anonymous alien.

> Talk about "fixed ideas"!  

I agree.
-- 
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Hoffa Release Date?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:44:38 GMT


Anybody know when Danny DeVito's Hoffa is to be released. After
DeVito's masterful handling of _War of the Roses_, I'm ready            
to brave the ticket lines for opening night of this one...              


Mark B. Bendiksen                
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
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 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Re: AFTER HOURS 
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:42:41 GMT


Maureen Wilkes writes:

>BTW, did anyone see NEW YORK STORIES?  I hated the Coppola film, and
>Woody Allen's was so-so, thereby making Scorcese's film the best of the
>three.  It wasn't his best effort, but it sure looked good in comparison
>to those other two!  Rosanna Arquette played the rebellious young muse of
>a drunken, washed up, middle-aged artist, played by Nick Nolte.

Well, I agree the Coppola's episode didn't work. But I must
say I prefer Allen's film to Scorsese's. Don't get me wrong: I'm
a big Scorsese fan (and Nolte fan, for that matter), and I did
enjoy his story. I guess I was just more pleasantly surprised
by Allen's work. To me it seemed to be a combination of what
was best about Allen's earlier work combined with the sophistication
of his later films. Interesting......

Just my opinion. Please don't flame, I burn easily.


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
-- 
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 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Mel Gibson really CAN act!
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:42:10 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Aug10.022016.4833@sura.net>, vargish@sura.net (Nick Vargish)

> Nothing's wrong with making some money, but actors who go for films
> such as the Lethal Weapon series rarely get to display their talent. I
> never said Mel was bereft of ability... but it would be nice if he
> were in movies that he could act in.

I disagree...I think Mel did a fine job of acting in _Lethal Weapon_.
The character gave him a decent chance to show some depth, and all things
considered, he did a fine job.
 
> Yes, I believe this criticism applies to "his" _Hamlet_. Shakespeare
> is difficult enough to translate to film without the butchery that was
> done to the Bard's terrific script. 

I *heartily* disagree with the term "butchery" here.  You've obviosly never
seen a really poor version of Hamlet, Zefferelli's movie was far from the
worst.  Remember Holm, Carter, Close, Jacobi, and others in the film were
all classically trained.

> Even worse was the shallow interpretations of the characters, the blame 
> for which rests largely with the director... but does not excuse the flaccid 
> performances from the cast 

I was very dissapointed with Ian Holm's Polonius, and think your criticism is
valid, but Cladius and Gertrude were excellent.  And I even felt that Mel
delivered a fine, if somewhat un-inspired, performance.

> (with the exception of a sterling performance from Helena Bonham
> Carter [usual spelling disclaimer]). 

You got the name right, and yes, I agree.  I normally can't stand the character 
of Ophilia, but Carter really brought her to life.

> And yes, I though Mel over-acted -- did you catch all that mugging during 
> "To be or..."? -- his suffering was downright hammy.

Mugging?  Hammy?  I didn't see that at all.  He did have only one emotion
through most of it, but I found it convincing.
 
> Try reading _Hamlet_, then try seeing it presented by a competant
> company (if possible), and then go see "Mel's" _Hamlet_. I think you
> will notice the difference quite quickly. 

Far from it...I've seen at least half a dozen productions of Hamlet (Kevin
Kline's being my favorite) and Zefferelli's movie was at least average, and
when considering the sets, costumes, action, etc. it was a very entertaining
film.  A "lavish" production.  (I've never seen the dueling scene done as well)

> _Hamlet_ is a story of moral quandries, whose depth of which was magically 
> removed from the movie, leaving us with a "revenge flick" (pretty sets and 
> interesting accents notwithstanding).

Don't you understand the need to simplify Shakespeare for the screen?
Both for simplicity and to make it more accessable.

Greg Bole                         "We spend too much time thinking about the
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu       end of the world.  It isn't going to happen.
                                   ...today...I promise it.  Not before lunch."
                                        Alan Rickman in _Close My Eyes_
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct ENDING *This means SPOILER for MIKE!!*
Date: 16 Aug 92 03:07:25 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Aug5.171957.9476@rock.concert.net> black@jazz.concert.net (Rob Black) writes:

>PS: Hey Mike, here's another one for ya: In "JFK", Kennedy and Oswald
>both die!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)  :-)

That's nothing. When I saw 'The Right Stuff' several people complained at
the end of the movie. They hadn't explained whether John Glenn had survived
or not.


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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Re: "Station West"
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:39:59 GMT


Peter Benchley's _Jaws_ was a pretty awful novel. Of course,
it's probably Spielberg's direction which improved on it
rather than an inspired screenplay (although the screenplay
did delete many elements which did not work well in the book,
such as an affair between Hooper and Martin Brody's wife....
it's hard to imagine a subplot like that adding to a film
like _Jaws_.)


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
-- 
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 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:33:47 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <1992Aug13.115951.22513@cs.yale.edu> loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>
>   >How about war movies about earlier times?
>
>   Something with Napoleon?  The silent one.
>
>IMHO, the best war movie I've seen about the Napoleonic wars is
>"Waterloo", with Christopher Plummer as Wellington.  It's kind of slow
>and draggy in places, but the battle scenes are some of the best that
>have ever been filmed -- there's an big cavalry charge streaming
>around dozens of infantry squares, etc.  There are some other movies
>about the period that work better as complete films (e.g., "War and
>Peace" with Audrey Hepburn) but "Waterloo" is the one that really
>leaves a lasting impression.

In terms of film quality, I'd say Abel Gance's "Napoleon" is the
best Napoleonic War film.  In terms of quality of battle sequences,
the Russian version of "War and Peace" wins hands down, with "Waterloo"
coming in second.  They dressed a division or two of the Red Army up
in Napoleonic uniforms for "War and Peace" - the incredible long shots
of massive numbers of soldiers fighting have rarely been surpassed.
"Waterloo", filmed in Yugoslavia or Spain, I believe, was able to make
use of the cheaply rentable army of the host country to similar effect,
but the budget wasn't as totally unconstrained as that of "War and Peace".
(There's another film called "Napoleon", by the way, a sound film that 
has Orson Welles and Eric von Stroheim in bit parts.  It's rather close 
to terrible.)

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