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Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 09:41:16 EDT
From: Robert Chambers <RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vmesa-l
Subject: Re: VM3812 and/or VMxxxxx package

In article <VMESA-L%92072312271821@UAFSYSB.BITNET>, Humberto Jose' Bortolossi
<HJBORTOL@BRFUEM.BITNET> says:
>
>Greetings.
>
>    Apologies if my question is silly ... I'm just an end user trying to
>do some VM work. Well, now we are with a new computer, new OS and    new
>printers: 3090 computer, VM/ESA Rel. 1 and 3820/3827 laser printers  ...
>Thinking about to get a full use of these laser printers we decided   to
>install TeX for CMS. The TeX/CMS documentation says it's need a   device
>driver to print TeX output files, for example, VM3812 package. My doubts
>are:

>       (1) What is a device driver?

In the common sense of the word, it would be a program that does some
translations from generic to specific for any given device.  In this
instance however (VM3812) it is a whole server running a pre-processor
to take printed output from users and print them on the 3812 page printer

>       (2) is this device driver needed to operate 3820/3827   printers?
>That is, will these printers work without a device driver?

I'm not sure if it's *needed* to run that printer, but it's almost
certainly required if you want to do anything tricky with it, (like
programmable fonts, graphics, TeX, etc)

>       (3) is it usual to receive a device driver package when you  ins-
>tall laser printers?

With this particular printer, I think the VM3812 driver code is ordered
separately (even though its a necessary part for doing anything nice).

>       (4) Which are the common device drivers available?

For this printer, I think that's the only one.

>     I already asked these questions to our system manager but I   think
>he has enough knowledge to answer me ...
>
>     Please, elucidate me| Thanks a lot in advance.
>
>     Humberto.

Good luck

Robert
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Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:39:01 EDT
From: Martin J. Doyle <MBDMD@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vmesa-l,bit.listserv.vmxa-l,bit.listserv.9370-l
Subject: Migrating from VM to MVS

Rohm and Haas is an international chemical company based in Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania.  We run both MVS/ESA and VM/XA (soon to be VM/ESA) on a
logically partitioned ES/9000-820.  As with many shops we are under
increasing pressures to cut costs.  I work on the VM side of the
shop.

I am interested in contacting other shops in either the chemical or
other manufacturing industries that are either running both VM and
MVS or have run both VM and MVS in the past.  We are interested in
feedback on two important questions:

1) If you continue to run VM and MVS, why?  Much of your workload that
   runs under VM could be migrated to MVS.  Why haven't you done this?
   Is VM more efficient?  Do you users like VM more than MVS?  Do
   certain applications that run on VM give your company any type of
   strategic advantage vs. running the application under MVS?

2) If you have migrated off of VM onto MVS what benefits have you
   realized?  Have you saved anything in terms of hardware resources
   after increasing the capacity of you MVS system to process the
   VM workload?  Have you seen significant savings in personnel?
   Are you systems easier to implement?

Management at this company is very pro-MVS/anti-VM.  The VM group is
under constant pressure to justify it's platform.  While the VM system
has literally thousands and thousands of happy end users running
every application from PROFS to molecular modeling, management is
much more interested in the survival of key business applications
which are all MVS based.

In closing, if you still have both VM and MVS then why?  If you've
gotten rid of VM then why and have you received the benefits you
expected.


Martin J. Doyle
VM Systems Programming Contractor
Rohm and Haas Company
Philadelphia,  Pennsylvania
MBDMD@ROHVM1
(215) 592-6865 (Day)
(215) 752-2296 (Evening)
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:05:47 BSC
From:         Humberto Jose' Bortolossi <HJBORTOL@BRFUEM.BITNET>
Subject:      VM3812 and/or VMxxxxx package

Greetings.

    Apologies if my question is silly ... I'm just an end user trying to
do some VM work. Well, now we are with a new computer, new OS and    new
printers: 3090 computer, VM/ESA Rel. 1 and 3820/3827 laser printers  ...
Thinking about to get a full use of these laser printers we decided   to
install TeX for CMS. The TeX/CMS documentation says it's need a   device
driver to print TeX output files, for example, VM3812 package. My doubts
are:

       (1) What is a device driver?

       (2) is this device driver needed to operate 3820/3827   printers?
That is, will these printers work without a device driver?

       (3) is it usual to receive a device driver package when you  ins-
tall laser printers?

       (4) Which are the common device drivers available?

     I already asked these questions to our system manager but I   think
he has enough knowledge to answer me ...

     Please, elucidate me| Thanks a lot in advance.

     Bellow is a fragment of CMS DOC TeX file.

     Humberto.

<----------------------------------------------------------------------------->
You  still  need  a device  driver  to  print  the  LISTxxxx on  your  printer.
For  example, you  may use  the  VM3812 package  sold  by IBM,  version 1.1  or
later.  This  3812 driver  requires  FONT3812  files  to be  constructed,  from
FONT3820  files and  the  ASCII codepage,  using the  C20TO12  utility that  is
part  of  the   VM3812  package.  Similarly,  the  APA6670   or  SHERPA  driver
requires  the  construction  of  APFONT  files.  The  ASCII  codepage  must  be
specified  when  producing  FONT3812  or  APFONT  files  from  the  TeX  fonts.
<----------------------------------------------------------------------------->
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:09:02 -0800
From:         Richard Hintz <opsrjh@UCCVMA.UCOP.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VM3812 and/or VMxxxxx package

>In article <VMESA-L%92072312271821@UAFSYSB.BITNET>, Humberto Jose' Bortolossi
><HJBORTOL@BRFUEM.BITNET> says:
>>       (2) is this device driver needed to operate 3820/3827   printers?
>>That is, will these printers work without a device driver?


The 3820 and 3827 require the PSF (Print Services Facility) program.  They
won't work without it.  VM3812 only works with 3812 printers.  PSF will
also drive the 3812 and its replacement the 300x300 pel 4028-NS1.
--
Rich Hintz  opsrjh@uccvma.ucop.edu
University of California
From: ASSIS@BRFUEL.BITNET
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.asm370
Subject: Re: EXE to OBJ
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:40:45 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSIDADE ESTADUAL DE LONDRINA - PARANA - BR
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              29 Jul 1992 19:27:47 GMT from <psuvm@PSUVAX1.CS.PSU.EDU>

**:
**: From:          psuvm@PSUVAX1.CS.PSU.EDU
**:
**: How  do translate  an  EXE file  to  an  OBJ file  that  can be  then
**: translates  to assembly  code?  I  can do  the latter  step, but  the
**: former eludes me.  Please send information on how to do it, and where
**: to get the software.
**: Thanks,
**: gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
**:

Hmmmmm

     Hi  you whoever  you are.   Secondly, this  list is  devoted to  IBM
mainframe  assembler issues.   In  such environment,  EXE means  nothing.
Anyway ( excuse me you all for the  cross posting ), I don't think an EXE
can be  converted to  an OBJ  because an  OBJ conveys  information  which
couldn't be generated by such a converter ( symbolic names, references to
external libraries, and so on ).  However, I know an EXE file can be back
engineered to assembly code either manually  or by program.  And your are
lucky: in  the directory  MSDOS/DISASM of  SIMTEL PC  software repository
there are some programs that perform this  job.  If you don't know how to
access SIMTEL or what  SIMTEL is, drop me a note and  you provide you the
info you need.  Regards ....


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Nucleo de Processamento de Dados  - NPD |
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                                        |            Aplicativos
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:28:00 EDT
From:         GNR100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: EXE to OBJ
Comments: To: ASM370%UGA.BITNET@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU

    Sorry for the mispost.  I only saw one assembly language newsgroup, and
thought it most appropriate.  As for SIMTEL, I know what it is, and I cannot
access it.  But I can access archie and mirror sites, and could find the
softwareif I knew what to look for.   If you could send me some names, that
would be great.
      Thanks,
           Gordon Rogers
                 gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
      Thanks,
           Gordon Rogers
                 gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
      Thanks,
           Gordon Rogers
                 gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
      Thanks,
           Gordon Rogers
                 gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:29:14 BSC
From:         Jose' Luiz de Souza Gomes <JLSGOMES@BRFUEM.BITNET>
Subject:      help

Hi, there|||

          There is a program called ExecMod used to generate modules files
from exec's. This program works fine under VM/SP but it has problems  with
VM/ESA (I guess because VM/ESA is a very different operational system than
VM/SP).

          I'm sending the program for all list members.

          Could you fix the problem in order to make ExecMod works under
VM/ESA???

          Thanks a lot in advance|||
                                              Jose' Luiz.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:25:15 EST
From:         SOMITCW@VCCSCENT.BITNET
Subject:      channel Attention handling in MVS

 On Mon, 27 Jul 1992, portal!cup.portal.com!TRADER@UUNET.UU.NET said:
>I'm familiar with using EXCP to do channel I/O. However the IOB
>structure and EXCP seem to be geared towards devices that do not present
>asynchronous attention interrupts. In VM environments, it is very easy
>to setup interrupt handlers with HNDIO.
>How does one write code in MVS to handle devices such as 3270 terminals
>that present asynchronous interrupts?

    I fought this war before.  Why can't IBM document how to write
 an I/O Attention routine for MVS.

    Three suggestions:

    Look at CBT tape file 353 from Brian Cook of Morton Thiokol.
 His ETPS program uses an I/O Attention that can talk to local
 non-SNA 3270 terminals before VTAM, JES2 or other sub-systems
 are even started.  His code has broken and been fixed when we
 switched operating systems but it is at least a good sample.
 He at one time even had a one byte overlay of SQA.  He moved
 his program plus one byte to SQA in space only large enough
 for his program. Meaning: Test off hours.
 If you need my copy that runs in MVS/SP 2.2.3, just ask.

    Look at IBM's I/O Attention routines.  I believe that the
 free BTAM one was called IECTATEN or something like it.
 VTAM and JES2 should have I/O Attention routines also.

    The last suggestion is to give up and use VTAM, TCAM, or
 BTAM to talk to 3270 terminals.

    Note: If you can ever get good documentation for IBM, please
 send me a copy.
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From:         GNR100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: EXE to OBJ
Comments: To: ASM370%UGA.BITNET@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU

    Sorry for the mispost.  I only saw one assembly language newsgroup, and
thought it most appropriate.  As for SIMTEL, I know what it is, and I cannot
access it.  But I can access archie and mirror sites, and could find the
softwareif I knew what to look for.   If you could send me some names, that
would be great.
      Thanks,
           Gordon Rogers
                 gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
      Thanks,
           Gordon Rogers
                 gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:27:00 EDT
From:         GNR100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: EXE to OBJ
Comments: To: ASM370%UGA.BITNET@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU

    Sorry for the mispost.  I only saw one assembly language newsgroup, and
thought it most appropriate.  As for SIMTEL, I know what it is, and I cannot
access it.  But I can access archie and mirror sites, and could find the
softwareif I knew what to look for.   If you could send me some names, that
would be great.
      Thanks,
           Gordon Rogers
                 gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
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From: maryelen@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Mary Ellen )
Subject: Purpose of this group
Organization: Industry Science & Technology Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:26:07 GMT

Hello there!

I am currently compiling a list of newsgroups which might be of
interest to the officers here at Industry, Science, and Technology
Canada. I would like to find out what the function of this group
is. As well, if any of you out there know of some industry,
science, technology, or international trade-related databases,
bbs's, newsgroups etc. out there, could you please let me know by
e-mail?

Thanks in advance!
Mary Ellen Foster
MARYELEN@hfx001.ns.istc.ca
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From: william1@me.utoronto.ca (Robert Williams)
Subject: Help with development of a gateways fee scheme
Summary: I need to know how to charge for the use of network gateways.
Keywords: gateways, networks, EDI, LAN, fee for use
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:48:21 GMT


> I tried posting this earlier, but it appears that it did not make it
> to all the relevant groups.  So, I am re-posting.
 
Sincerest apologies if this posting appears in inappropriate news groups.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

A friend of mine has been asked to develop a fee structure for accessors of
a companies information resources.  She writes as follows,

 I need help on the following: I need to know how certain organizations charge
 for use of their network gateways (gateways join two systems/networks
 together, usually at the midrange or mainframe level e.g. at the Front-end
 Processor). For instance, do they charge by the number of sessions a client
 signs up for, by the number of sessions the client actually used, do they have
 a one-time membership fee with a smaller monthly maintenance fee which allows
 users a large but undefined number of sessions, do they not charge at all and
 if so then what is their justification? All these questions ask: HOW is the
 gateway charged. But I also need to know, if possible, WHAT the charge is
 based on: what cost items do they include in maintenance of the gateway
 and what percentage of these cost items is used. Cost items include: human
 resources, CPU time, memory, software development, and other overhead items.

Any ideas from anyone who is familiar with this area would be appreciated.
Any information on books or papers covering this topic, or firms doing similar work, would also be appreciated.

Please send all responses to the Email address below.  If there is enough
interest, I will post a summary on the net.

Thanks in advance.

Robert Williams
U of T, CIMLab
Toronto, Canada
Email : william1@drill.me.utoronto.ca
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From: maryelen@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Mary Ellen )
Subject: PURPOSE OF THIS GROUP
Organization: Industry Science & Technology Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:29:57 GMT

Hello there!

I am currently compiling a list of newsgroups which might be of
interest to the officers here at Industry, Science, and Technology
Canada. I would like to find out what the function of this group
is. As well, if any of you out there know of some industry,
science, technology, or international trade-related databases,
bbs's, newsgroups etc. out there, could you please let me know by
e-mail?

Thanks in advance!
Mary Ellen Foster
MARYELEN@hfx001.ns.istc.ca
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:07:00 EDT
From:         "Bill Weathers 656-3733" <BILLACT@CLEMSON>
Subject:      Charges - Network gateways

This is my first post to the list.
I am interested in getting information on what others are doing
 with network charges.
Also, info on client server charging
Thanks
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Subject:      Re: Persian prose and poetry

IRAN IS A STRONG FUNDAMENTAL OF ISLAMIC COUNTRY. PERSIAN WOMEN ARE VERY STRICT W
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