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Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: Microsoft Excel s{ljes billigt
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From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Subject: A3000-minne till salu!
Uucp-Path: mcvax!kth!sunic!enea.se!tope
Reply-To: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Organization: Enea Data AB, Sweden
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:32:29 GMT

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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:00:47 GMT

In article <SPIKE.92Oct7082515@mickey.ssc.gov> spike@mickey.ssc.gov (Nancy Delagi) writes:
>In article <BvqGJJ.Dnp@cmptrc.lonestar.org> andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:
>
>> Actually, the best thing to do is move right ;-)  In California and
>> Washington State you can be ticketed for not moving right to let someone
>> pass.  
>
>>> Yeah, but I'm talking about when I'm already doing 70 or 75.  And why
>>> should I move out of the way of a tail-gater if _my_ relative velocity
>>> is greater than the cars to the right of me?   I agree, you shouldn't
>>> be in the left lane if you're doing the speed limit (55).  Seems like
>>> most of these guys use a simple (to them) rule:  If you're going slower
>>> than them you shouldn't be in front of them _regardless_ of how fast
>>> you're actually going.
>
>And they're right.  Who are you to decide when a person is going fast
>enough and shouldn't go any faster?  Why don't you just be courteous, get
>over for a second to let them pass, then get back in the left.

Well, no, they're not necessarily right.  It sort of depends on just
what the traffic to the right is doing, too.  If I'm 10MPH over the
limit and the guy to my right decided to speed up once I got out
alongside, what do you expect me to do, run him off the road?

It's real simple, people.  The old 'stay right except to pass' rule.
If you're engaged in passing (because you're going faster than all
those people to your right) and some bozo comes screaming up beind you
and starts flipping his lights up and down and such, HE is the 'jerk'. 

>
>
>> I try not to tail-gate (I was taught to keep one car-length per 10mph
>> distance to the next car) but since Dallasites don't often move out of the
>> way, I find that I have to approach more closely than I would like to
>> "encourage" them to move right.
>
>>> And I'm saying it doesn't encourage me (and lots of other folks) to move
>>> over one bit.  After all, you're required to have insurance.  Go ahead 
>>> and rear-end me.  Might pay for some body work I'd like to have done. :^!
>
>Then you're driving like a JERK.

If somebody comes up behind me and starts acting like a jerk, I'm
going to slow down, too.  And I'm not going to move over to the right
and get out of their way until I can do it without having to slow
down.  I probably pay as much as you do for the piece of road I
operate my car on, after all, so what gives you some inate right to
have your own lane?

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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From: jim@trsvax.tandy.com
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:56 CDT
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Looking for newsfeed
Message-ID: <84300102@trsvax>
Nf-ID: #R:dms3b1.uucp:7963:trsvax:84300102:000:610
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!jim    Oct 15 08:56:00 1992


/* Written  4:22 pm  Oct  9, 1992 by dms3b1.UUCP!dave in trsvax:dfw.general */
/* ---------- "Looking for newsfeed" ---------- */
	[ need for Dallas feed mentioned, etc... ]
-- 
Dave Hanna,  Infotouch Systems, Inc. |  "Do or do not -- There is no try"
P.O. Box 584, Bedford, TX 76095      |                        - Yoda
(214) 358-4534   (817) 540-1524      |
/* End of text from trsvax:dfw.general */

I called the 817 number (after work hours) to see if I could help, but
got a crass, snippy, b*tch who 1) never heard of Dave, and 2) wouldn't
acknowledge that I'd dialed that number until I called twice...
From: floydf@wildcat.iphase (Floyd Ferguson)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:28:52 GMT
Organization: /users/floydf/.organization

In article <1992Oct5.094504.21@dallas.sil.org> mcdonald@dallas.sil.org writes:
Path: iphase!digi!texsun!wb9rxw!kf5iw!cmptrc!lerami!dalsil!mcdonald
   From: mcdonald@dallas.sil.org
   Newsgroups: dfw.general
   Date: 5 Oct 92 15:45:04 GMT
   Organization: Summer Institute of Linguistics, Dallas Center
   Lines: 16

   Can anybody tell me why Dallas drivers seem to have an aversion to passing
   on the left?  I just don't understand why they would choose to pass on the
   right when the left lane is open.  If someone could enlighten me as to why
   I might not get so angry at them for violating such a basic highway
   courtesy.

A. To avoid streams of tobacco juice issuing from the Driver's Side Window
   of Large Pickups

B. It's harder for them to aim a handgun when they have to shoot out the
   passenger side of the AforeSaid Pickup.

C. After passing you're just that much closer to the Exit Ramp if you
   need to Exit Quickly (see previous point referencing Handguns).

Hope this helps,
Floyd Ferguson
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: emcguire@Intellection.COM (Ed McGuire)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Supersedes: <EMCGUIRE.92Oct13111753@fuller.Intellection.COM>
Organization: Intellection Inc.
	<67500@cup.portal.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:59:10 GMT

In article <67500@cup.portal.com> cpc@cup.portal.com (Chris NMI Cebelenski) writes:

   I'm not sure what it is about Dallas drivers, but they seem to be the
   most inconsiderate drivers I have ever had the non-pleasure of driving
   with.

This has not been my experience.  I find that when I drive
courteously, I am given courtesy in return.  For example, many people
on highway onramps don't bother with a left signal.  I always left
signal, and someone always makes room for me.

   I've almost been hit several times at four
   ways when (IMO) it was my "turn" to go.

This also contradicts my experience.  I'm curious what you believe are
the rules for deciding whose turn it is?  The fact that you have had
several bad experiences at four-way stops makes me wonder if you were
mistaught.

However, I have noticed that much hesitation at the stop will result
in other drivers taking my turn and entering the intersection
simultaneously with me.  Perhaps my success at four-way stops is
merely explained by my habit of beginning to enter the intersection as
early as possible.  I also enter slowly in case there is a
disagreement requiring a quick stop.
-- 
Ed McGuire                   1603 LBJ Freeway, Suite 780
Systems Administrator/       Dallas, Texas 75234
 Member of Technical Staff   214/620-2100, FAX 214/484-8110
Intellection, Inc.           <ed@intellection.com>
From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:51:39 GMT
 <Bw3C0I.DCr@sneaky.lonestar.org>
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <Bw3C0I.DCr@sneaky.lonestar.org>, Gordon Burditt writes:

> >I have a female friend who shot a man who forced his way into her
> >apartment (i.e. obvious malicious intent). He very nearly won a civil
> >case against her for his injury.  His lawyer made several cases: 1) he
> >was high and therefore not in control of himself, 2) he was unarmed
> 
> IMHO, the law *SHOULD* say that if you voluntarily get drunk or high
> (that is, you knew what you were drinking and it's not a case of
> someone spiking drinks or forcibly administering alcohol/drugs/medication),

Basically, this used to be the law.  When did it get changed?  Or, is this
just liberal judges rewriting the laws "by interpretation?"

> then whatever you do, you do intentionally, with malicious intent,
> and with premeditation.  In other words, a drunk driver who kills someone 
> by accident should be found guilty of first-degree murder.  This guy

You are probably going a bit far here, but I won't argue...

> appears to be guilty of breaking and entering, property damage, and
> if he touched her - even with one hair - I'd find him guilty of assult 
> with intent to commit bodily injury.
> 
> >(though he was quite muscular and much larger than she), and 3) the
> >punishment for breaking and entering is not the death penalty (i.e.
> >she had no right to attempt to take his life -- this one even pissed
> >off the judge).  

Trespassing used to be a legitimate reason to shoot to kill.  I think that
in most cases it should be made that way again.


                                                Jim Pritchett


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From: glennr@sdf.lonestar.org (Glenn Reinhardt)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:22:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.173725.22787@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal) writes:
>>Doing that crap behind me is the surest way in the world to get me to slow
>>down.  Every single time.  Get too close and I'll slam on the damn brakes.
>>
>>Don't forget that many people carry guns in their cars.  What if you
>>antagonize the wrong driver on the wrong day at the wrong time?  Is it
>>worth getting your head senselessly blown off?  It has happened.
>>
>Their is nothing wrong with that "crap", and *I* DON'T do it in a traffic
>jam.
>
>I DO do it if it *is* possible for the guy in front of me to switch to
>the right.  Flicking your beams in a worldwide accepted sign.  I'm not
>sure if it is a law or not, though I was told about it in Driver's Ed.

Worldwide accepted?  Kinda like Visa, I suppose.... Flicking your lights 
is a somewhat polite way of letting the other driver know you want to pass.
Perhaps he just didn't notice you yet behind him and the flash can get his 
attention.  Tailgating to try to 'push' someone into the slowlane is impolite, 
obnoxious, dangerous, and illegal.
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: emcguire@Intellection.COM (Ed McGuire)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Supersedes: <EMCGUIRE.92Oct13104929@fuller.Intellection.COM>
Organization: Intellection Inc.
	<melliott.718675429@convex.convex.com>
	<1992Oct10.094619.16833@montagar.com>
Distribution: dfw
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:59:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.094619.16833@montagar.com> davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes:
   And if *you* would notice, there are YIELD signs on those exit ramps for
   *YOU* to obey so that exitting traffic can get off the highway, rather than
   backup on the highway (causing more problems).

I moved to Dallas recently from out of state.  I have two comments on
the access road yield signs.

First, the fact that they exist makes me wonder why there is
insufficient traffic capacity for people to get off the highway
without stopping all access road traffic.  Fact is, I am underwhelmed
by the road system of Dallas.  Some longtime residents have offered
the opinion that the civil engineers responsible ought to be put up
against the wall, so I am reassured that this is not only an
outsider's viewpoint.

Second, only the leftmost lane of the access road ought to yield to
offramp traffic, mediated with solid white lines.  A yield for all
three lanes of traffic leads to the preposterous notion that an
offramp motorist can effect a lane change from the left lane into the
center or right lane and not be at fault if s/he sideswipes a car in
the process, instead of the ordinary rule that lane changes are only
made after signaling and yielding to traffic in the new lane.

I am so used to the ordinary rule, that I nearly caused an accident on
an access road.  I was in the center lane of the access road, and a
highway motorist left the offramp and crossed from the offramp
directly into the center lane, braking hard enough to leave tracks to
avoid rear-ending me, then crossed again into the right lane.  The
reason I did not stop in my lane at the yield was that the left lane
was completely open to the offramp motorist, as was the center lane
ahead of me and the right lane, and I reasonably expected him to pass
me on the left.  But he reasonably expected to enter any of the three
access road lanes without signaling or yielding to traffic in the
lanes.  Both of us (apparently) were shaken and angry about the near
collision.

There must be some distance beyond the yield sign where the offramp
traffic must begin to obey the ordinary rule and yield before changing
lanes, but it is not marked in any way.  My opinion is that if a
change is not made to single lane yield, the offramp exit ought to be
painted as an intersection, with a solid white stopline painted
entirely across the access road following the line of the offramp and
new lane divisions beginning some distance beyond the intersection.

peace.  -- Ed
-- 
Ed McGuire                   1603 LBJ Freeway, Suite 780
Systems Administrator/       Dallas, Texas 75234
 Member of Technical Staff   214/620-2100, FAX 214/484-8110
Intellection, Inc.           <ed@intellection.com>
Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:57:00 GMT
Distribution: dfw
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

>Actually, the best thing to do is move right ;-)  In California and
>Washington State you can be ticketed for not moving right to let someone
>pass.  

You can be ticketed for this in Texas too. That law is commonly printed on
signs -> "SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT". In fact, if you are going 70mph in the
left lane, matching the speed of a car(also going 70) in the right lane, and
being stubborn about not passing then you can get two tickets -- one for
speeding plus a second for not obeying "slower traffic keep right". This
was told to me by a retired DPS trooper who was teaching a defensive driving
course I took about a year ago. He even said he ticketed many drivers for
that dual offense during the course of his career(mostly around the Waco 
area on I-35).
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DoD #686   '91 XLH-1200      '70 Kawasaki G4-100cc    '69 Cougar XR7-GT390
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From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re:  Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:49:59 GMT
 <1992Oct6.175220.23@dallas.sil.org> <BvqGJJ.Dnp@cmptrc.lonestar.org> <alfredo.03ny@ajahnv.lonestar.org>
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <alfredo.03ny@ajahnv.lonestar.org>, Alfredo Jahn V writes:

> The reason for that (and I'm not kidding here) is that when someone (in
> Dallas) puts on their turn signal to move into another lane, some idiot
> in a pickup truck will speed up to not let you in... I think its some kind
> of macho thing. I'm not sure. Therefore, people have to "sneak" in.

It ain't just pickup trucks.  I have seen many different cars speed up to try
to make sure noone gets ahead of them - even when there is plenty of room.


                                                Jim Pritchett


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From: mcdonald@dallas.sil.org
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:52:20 CST
Organization: Summer Institute of Linguistics, Dallas Center

In article <BvpuHw.2u5@cmptrc.lonestar.org>, andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:
> I wrote:
>>
>>Doing that crap behind me is the surest way in the world to get me to slow
>>down.  Every single time.  Get too close and I'll slam on the damn brakes.
>>
> 
> Before someone else does it, I'll point out an obvious contradiction in
> my last post.  Slamming on the brakes isn't necessarily a good idea
> either!  This also may be a good way to get shot.  I was mainly saying this
> for rhetorical impact.
> 
> Hey!  I'm pretty much a hot-head and driving in DFW stresses me out at
> times.  I have made much progress in staying cool behind the wheel, but
> I'm not perfect.  Sometimes I still do things like this.

I find DFW to be a lot worse than Boston, Portland, LA, Seattle, ... Most
of those places have pretty homogeneous driving attitudes, and once you get
used to them, it's a snap.  But Dallas has so many different people from
all over the place that it is hard to figure out how traffic is supposed to
flow.

> Actually, the best way is to just gradually slow down on a tail-gater and 
> give them a big cheery smile when they finally roar by.  Very satisfying.
> 

Actually, the best thing to do is move right ;-)  In California and
Washington State you can be ticketed for not moving right to let someone
pass.  

I try not to tail-gate (I was taught to keep one car-length per 10mph
distance to the next car) but since Dallasites don't often move out of the
way, I find that I have to approach more closely than I would like to
"encourage" them to move right.

Dan - mcdonald@dallas.sil.org
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From: kumar@sdf.lonestar.org (Sundeep Kumar)
Subject: Modem Dailing to sdf
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Distribution: dfw
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 16:14:51 GMT

I am using a ProComm Mayes compatible 2400 Baud modem to dial to
 sdf. I have a novice question : I have call waiting on my
phone and would like to hear some kind of indication if I am getting a
call. How can I do this ?
--Sk

kumar@sdf.lonestar.org


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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:06:53 GMT
Distribution: dfw
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Oct12.114704.25801@netcom.com> harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:
>neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>
>>Now if everyone would only quit trying to run over motorcycles......
>
>Ooohhh...  That reminds me of something I'd like to vent here...
>
>When are the motorcycle riders who ride the stripe between lanes in
>order to pass in heavy traffic going to get smart?  I have a theory
>that this will never actually happen, but that sort of rider will
>slowly disappear as they are killed the wrecks they cause...
>
>This isn't a general knock on bikers.  Most are much more intelligent
>than that, and given their vulnerable position they are often safer on
>the roads than most drivers.

This is known as "lane-splitting" and is very illegal (and stupidly
dangerous, in my opinion) here in Texas. Many states permit lane-splitting
and the California Highway Patrol even promotes it. This was a much discussed
topic in "rec.motorcycles" a few weeks ago. Motorcyclists who do this here in
the metroplex must have a death wish. Whenever I'm on my motorcycle, I like
to keep at least 10 feet away from cars, after having been nearly run off the
road 5 times in the past year by cars/trucks making unsignalled abrupt lane
changes into me. Interestingly, 3 of the 5 were those big 500 series Mercedes
Benz cars. The other two were a Ford Taurus station wagon and a Suburban.   

Neal Howard
From: exulox@exu.ericsson.se (Lasse Ohlsson, T/TDT, 1129)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Laws that ought to be enforced
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:31:49 GMT
Reply-To: exulox@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 1B2@cmptrc.lonestar.org, neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>Since we've all been on the subject of the driving behavior/ traffic laws
>in this newsgroup lately, did y'all know that there is a Texas Civil Statute
>that says if a vehicle is emitting visible smoke from its exhaust for more
>that 10 consectutive seconds that a police officer may cite the driver for
>"pollution"? I read this one in the Vernon's Civil Statutes book at a 
>defensive driving class I took a couple years ago. I wonder when this
>law will begin to be widely enforced around here. With compact ccd video 
>cameras/vcr's being installed in police cars nowadays, all the officer would
>need to do for courtroom proof is show the videotape of the offender's
>vehicle belching filth into the air. Being a bicyclist and a motorcyclist,
>I'd love to see this one enforced a little more. (cough cough gag choke!)
>
>Neal
>--

This would take practically all the 18-wheelers off the roads!
I got stuck behind a truck like that in Norway once (on my bike)
going through a 2 mile tunnel - uphill!  I thought I was going
to die!


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