From: rwifall@nmsu.edu (Richard J Wifall)
Subject: Re: Does apple ][ GS software work using the apple ][ emulator
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<20345@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:52:35 GMT

In article <20345@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez008579@othello.ucdavis.edu (Dudley McFadden) writes:
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>   his newsgroup to delude oneself into believing that there are actually 
>   serious users of these systems out there, using them for revenue work.
	Excuse me????? You are SERIOUSLY mistaken..  There are many
serious users of AppleII systems "using them for revenue work."  I
know more then just a couple businesses that use their AppleII's for
book keeping.   You also probably have the "deluded" idea that people
don't develope on the GS anymore. (since that IS serious work for
revenue)  Well, just to get it straight, myself, and many of my
friends develop on the GS "for revenue work"   Quit deluding yourself
into thinking you know something about that which you aren't involved in.

>   Friends, the Apple II is dead!  We hobbyists are the only ones who care abo
	Sorry, the Apple II is not dead..  I guess it's time to pull
"The Quote"

	"Since the day the Apple III (RIP) was introduced in 1980,
the 'experts' have been saying the Apple II is a dead machine.
If the Apple III couldn't kill it, 
	the Lisa (RIP)
	or the PC Jr. (RIP)
	or the 128k Mac (RIP) would.
	Some people never learn."
		-Tom Weishaar

>   fact is that X-windows, Windows NT, and (maybe) OS/2 are where it's happeni
>   now, not the Apple //GS.  Those of us who use computers for more than
	The AppleIIgs has had a windowing environment for ohh.. gosh
I'd say 5 or so years now... The rest of the world is finally catching
up to the AppleIIgs....

>   tinkering don't want apples, we want nice, standardized, fast, spacious PC'
	Standardized??????  a PC???   Ok, try this:  Get a bus mouse,
an IDE/Floppy card, a standard IO card, a highspeed video card, a
bernoulli box, a soundcard, a CDROM, scanner, all with their various
interface cards and have fun resolving the IRQ conflicts...

>   They're more powerful and, hence, in many ways more fun than Amigas, //GS's
>   and yes, Macs (but here I digress; see certain other newsgroups for this
	Power is only useful if it gains you something..   You can be
just as productive (if not more so) on //GS's, Amigas, and Macs as any
pc clone.  And fun is relative.. I have alot more fun on my //GS then
I ever did on any I*M clone... That would probably be why I switched
over from the IBM.

>   The point of this lengthy diatribe is that I'd like to see less "my GS soun
>   blows the simms off of your lousy sound blaster" flame in this newsgroup;

	The point of this reply is that I'd like to see less "My IBM
is more powerful and much more fun then your //GS" type of things,
(and to correct you on a few points)
	Oh, I would *LOVE* to see an emultor that could get even
halfway through booting GS/OS 6.0, or a quarter of the way through a
FTA boot..  (somehow I'm not expecting to hear from any pc-emul
developers any time soon)

>   Dudley E. McFadden, III       <demcfadden@ucdavis.edu>

				Richard
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