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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Grass field at 49er's
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:01:37 GMT

In article <1itigrINNcrb@male.EBay.Sun.COM> greg@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (greg) writes:

>I just saw on the local (SF) news that they are replacing the
>torn up grass at Candlestick.  The groundskeeper said that they
>are removing the blugrass (destroyed Sat.) with new bermuda
>grass.

Sure enough -- imported from Palm Desert.  I have great respect for
George Toma, but what he expects to accomplish with a replant 5 days
before a game is beyond me.  Even if this were summer, 5 days is
nowhere near enough time for sod to put roots down.

>Is this legal?

No, Greg, it isn't.  It violates several federal and state statutes
that prohibit the mixing of grass seeds in a public place.  They also
ran afoul of a SF ordinance banning planting without a permit.  Thanks
for staying on top of this one.

>Anyhow, this should help the Cowboys, IMHO.

Unless the sod is about two feet deep, I still don't see how it's
going to help anybody.


-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: NFL Tentative Players Agreement Is Off
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:46:59 GMT

In article <Nms1wB2w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> jimg@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Jim Gorycki) writes:
>dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M) writes:
>
>> According to the SF Chronicle (12/31/92), quoted w/o permission:
>> 
>> The tentative agreement between the NFL and its players fell 
>> apart last night, the lawyer for the players said.
>> 
>> ....
>> 
>> The main stumbling block apparently was the owners' insistence that 
>> the players whose contracts expired be given just a 60-day window
>> in which they could negotiate with any team.  After that period,
>> unsigned players would return to their team and be paid 110 percent
>> of their last contract.
>> 
>> ....
>> 
>> Doty [U.S. District Court Judge], who then declared nine unsigned
>> veterans to be free agents, told the owners and players that he would
>> impose a settlement that neither side might like if no agreement
>> was reached.
>> 
>> "I've been with these cases since 1987 and nothing is either 
>> expected or surprises me about what happens with them" Doty said.
>> "We'll just go ahead and do what we were planning to do, at
>> any rate."
>
>I heard on NBC (1/7/93) that The Free Agency case is "in ink". 
>While they were saying that, NBC was showing a picture of Jerry Rice.

Don't get too excited about Rice.  He signed a contract at the 
beginning of this year.  3 year contract at about 3M a year,
the largest non-QB contract in the NFL.  With free agency, this
is likely to look rather small in a couple of years (wonder
what Sharpe will ask Green Bay for? ;-)

>Where do you think he's going to?
>
>Jim G.
>
>"Fitz...Sanchez...Castranova...News at 10"
>


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From: lowery@bnr.ca (Gary Lowery)
Subject: Re: If and When
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:05:32 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Keywords: more like when the chargers, bills win

In article <5196@equinox.unr.edu> schnell@pyramid.unr.edu (Dan Schnell) writes:
>
>Okay, let's just s'ppose here.
>
>Chargers beat Fish.
>Bills beat Steelers.
>
>Niners beat Redskins.
>Dallas/Philly whatever.
>
>The pairings for next week would be:
>Buffalo at San Diego
>San Francisco hosts game.
>
>Now, both games would be on sunday, and both games would be on the west
>coast.  Which game would be the "early game", starting at 10AM pacific
>time?  I can tell you right now, the Chargers would get screwed, and have
>to play the early game, fate is cruel to the Chargers in Afc championship
>history.  San Francisco would "pull rank" and demand the prime start time.
> Or what does youse think?
>
>GO CHARGERS
>
>Dan Schnell
>schnell@unr.cs.edu

You are right.  Since they have the better record, the other team should
do the suffering.  That's what the best record in the NFL gets you.
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From: tjurlina@itmtbj (Tom Jurlina)
Subject: Re: Bear Coach question
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:50:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.101421.29774@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>  
stailey@bugs.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey) writes:
> 
> *Could someone please tell me the Bear coach(es) between Abe Giberon
> *and Mike Ditka. Thanks very much!
> 
> 
> 	Neil Armstrong was one of them.
>
	Jack Pardee was another. 
> 
>  	--
> 	Michael                      
> 	stailey@comm.mot.com     
> 


Tom 
jurlina@mot.com
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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: STEELERS,cowboys GIFS....
Organization: Clark University
Date: 7 JAN 93 22:04:11 GMT

In a previous article, rocko@ireland.ssc.gov (Rick O'Leary) wrote:
>	In the third week of the '92 season I got a little tired of
>hearing about the Dallas Krogerboys.  (I am living in Dallas.) So..
>like every good Steeler fan I went way out on a limb and offered a
>bet to one of my co-workers (a recycled Viking fan, now claims to
>like the Krogerboys).  The bet is only on if the Steelers and the
>Krogerboys play in the Super Bowl.  If so (i.e. If Dallas makes it)
>the bet loser will have the winning teams insignia "SHAVED" onto
>the back of their head.  Clippers will be on the site of the SB
>party.  This event will be video taped.  If there is a request or
>two, we may be able to have a few frames converted to GIF format
>for net posting.  What do you think?

I think his face should be painted black and gold so that he won't 
be able to get out of it by wearing a baseball cap or hat.

Bart
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From: lracker@eos.ncsu.edu (LARRY RAY ACKER)
Subject: Re: Madden is an Idiot.
Originator: lracker@c00064-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: lracker@eos.ncsu.edu (LARRY RAY ACKER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:43:57 GMT


In article <C0Couw.GLI@ns1.nodak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan ) writes:
> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
> Path: taco!gatech!rpi!batcomputer!cornell!uw-beaver!news.u.washington.edu!ns1.nodak.edu!plains.NoDak.edu!sivaram
> From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan )
> Subject: Madden is an Idiot.
> Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (News login)
> Message-ID: <C0Couw.GLI@ns1.nodak.edu>
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 17:23:20 EST
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> Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
> Lines: 20
> 
> I used to like to listen to John "MAD" den before, but not
> anymore.  As long as he sticks to the chalk board it is
> OK, but it gets irrittating when he goes on rambling endlessly
> on some silly and unconnected things like a total idiot.
> 
> Yesterday, during the Eagles/Saints game, it got *horrible*
> and I muted the TV and put on the Radio commentary. 
> And for his stupid rambling about the refree who was injured
> in a fracas during the game .... What more needs to be said.
> 
> And he always goes into *orgasm* whenever the name Dallas
> Cowboys is mentioned and the doddering starts all over. 
> Can't he keep shut atleast for a while and allow the poor
> fans to watch the game.
> I do not know why people like to
> be included in the All- MAD-den team.  He is getting senile
> and denigrating into a total fool.
> 
> S.H
> (The Purple Bleeder)
> 
That's why he's been the number one sportscaster for years now, right?
From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Madden is an Idiot.
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:33:48 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz  BANANA SLUGS
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In article <C0Couw.GLI@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan ) writes:
>OK, but it gets irrittating when he goes on rambling endlessly
>on some silly and unconnected things like a total idiot.

I beg to differ with you.  This is what makes Madden so great.  He is       
entertaining and fun to listen to.  I feel he keeps many people watching
games which they would otherwise not care about.  The use of the "chalk-board"
is always amusing while at the same time informative.  I'm sure many would
agree with me.    

Madden's best line: Speaking about being down in the "trenches" in the line,
			"It's great, the blood, sweat.....buggars."

--David
SD Chargers
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Is the run-and-shoot finished?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 20:41:04 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
Distribution: usa
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In article <1993Jan4.195842.28634@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
 >In article <1i9u0tINNm7n@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
 >skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
 >
 >[a bunch of crap about the Oilers deleted]
 >
 >Hey Tim, 
 >How about concentrating on your cant do nothing wrong cowboys and quit the
 >Oiler bashing. Its old news. Geez if dallas can play half as good as you can
 >gloat, they have the SB wrapped up. 
 >
 >>
 >>GO Cowboys !!!!
 >>tim
 
First, The same things I am saying now I said five months ago, I guess
it was okay then. Old news ?? it happened less than 24 hours ago.

Second, After the abuse we took from Oilers fans when we were 1-15, we can 
gloat all we want.  13-3  nuff said.

Third, hit the n key if you dont want to read it!

Clearly A cowboys fan in "Hostile" territory.
Okay okay I quit...

tim
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From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Re: Steve Walsh deal
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:12:00 GMT

scsd1055@altair.selu.edu (Bill P.):
	
|> Dallas got a #1 in 91, #2 & #3 in 92 plus other players (I think)
|> for Walsh.

so, does anybody know who the cowboys actually GOT for these picks?

thanks,

james

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From: gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Re: SON OF CRAP FOOTBALL!
Organization: Gizmonic Institute - Home of the "Big G Burger"
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:07:09 GMT

<1993Jan8.132300.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>Hi there Hamish here again,I couldn't resist posting another message after the
>number of flames to my last one.

Well since you asked so nicely.

...
>If footballers are so fit, then how come, they can only last ten minutes before
>coming off and sending another team on, 

THat they are on the field for only 10 minutes at a time is due to the
rules and the size of the field.  That big men tend not to have the
endurance of the smaller soccer boy is physiology.

>                                        and what about the number of time outs
>you have in the game.

Strategy meetings.  I've yet to ever see a timeout taken in the NFL
because a team was tired.

>                     Mayby if you only played one team, and had a more flowing
>games, I wouldn't be in a position to slag your sport,as it is sitting down to
>watch a football game, which I have done is like sitting down in front of
>a washing machine for 4 hours.With soccer, you get a fast flowing game, with
>non-stop excitmemt.

For that I watch basketball.

>As for saying soccer is more popular over here because we're all wimps is
>nonsense,all our big men play rugby a far more exciting and demanding sport 
>than football.

Never played football huh?

>Also another point,why in the hell is it called football, as there is no use
>of the foot in the game apart from penalty kicks, surely handball would be
>a more accurate discription, soccer is proper football were skill and dexterity
>are needed to control a ball with the feet instead of just chucking the ball
>up the park and running with it.

If you are any example of the game of soccer or rubgy we should rename
football to "mindball".  It's obvious that you know very little about
the skill and strategy needed to play quality football.

>For all you too stupid to understand the subtle point I made when I said
>footballers were dickless, I'll explain.I was refering to the fact that
>the've taken so much steroids,thier genitalia has shrivelled up and
>disappeared.

And you've looked closely, no doubt.

>For eveyone who has picked me up on my previous spelling mistakes, I
>thought I would prove to you that I can spell properlly, if I sit down
>and look at what I am typing.These mistakes are just due to typing errors.

Look again then.

>By the way America has the biggest proportion of iliterate people, in the
                                                   ^
>western world, not to mention the porpotion of fat bastards you have.
                                    ^^ ^
No doubt a thousand others have already pointed this out.   I like to see
this guy go through a highschool football practice.


Gordon
-- 
The opinions expressed are my own, and not the beliefs or opinions
of whatever company you think I work for.  So there, thhhbbbt!
Message to Kodak:  Freedom for Dan Bredy.
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From: rocko@ireland.ssc.gov (Rick O'Leary)
Subject: STEELERS,cowboys GIFS....
Reply-To: rocko@ireland.ssc.gov (Rick O'Leary)
Organization: 8-Track Museum of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:49:25 GMT

A little while back someone requested NFL team insignia.  I don't
remember who but I may have some good ones coming.  Let me explain.


	In the third week of the '92 season I got a little tired of
hearing about the Dallas Krogerboys.  (I am living in Dallas.) So..
like every good Steeler fan I went way out on a limb and offered a
bet to one of my co-workers (a recycled Viking fan, now claims to
like the Krogerboys).  The bet is only on if the Steelers and the
Krogerboys play in the Super Bowl.  If so (i.e. If Dallas makes it)
the bet loser will have the winning teams insignia "SHAVED" onto
the back of their head.  Clippers will be on the site of the SB
party.  This event will be video taped.  If there is a request or
two, we may be able to have a few frames converted to GIF format
for net posting.  What do you think?

P.S.    Save the lame "The xxx's will never make it 'cause my team
	is going to beat your team........" crap.  This is intended
	to add a little fun to the life of a Dallas fan in Dallas.
	(imagine the looks he will get when Pgh. beats Dallas in
	the SB and he has the Steeler insignia shaved in the back
	of his head...IN DALLAS..... BA ha ha ha.


Rocko

"I was a Steeler fan when Rocky was in Nam and Rush was in Pittsburgh"


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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Vikings loss to 'Skins
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 15:29:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.153545.17971@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>I hate when someone says, after a particular team loses a ballgame, 
>that they actually are the better team.  This is not what I'm doing.  
>Also, I am not a Vikings fan so this is not just sour grapes.
>
>Having got that out of the way, I'd like to say that I know the 
>Vikings are capable of putting up a much better fight than they did 
>last weekend.  I've seen a lot of posts saying things like "I can't 
>believe that people actually thought the Vikings would beat the 
>Redskins."  
>
>The fact is that it's not fair to judge a team based on one game.  
>The 15-13 game earilier this year is much more indicitive of the 
>Vikings talent level than this game.  I've seen the Vikings play a 
>bunch of times this season and I'm telling you their talent is on a 
>par with the Redskins.  
>
>Because they got off to such a fast start. I think people are forgetting 
>that this was Dennis Green's 1st year as a HC in the NFL.  It's very 
>difficult for a new head coach to win a playoff game especially when 
>the opposing coach is Joe Gibbs.
>
>I don't know what happened last Saturday.  The Vikings were flat, no 
>doubt about that, but I don't know why.  By no means am I saying that 
>the Redskins didn't earn their victory.  All I'm saying is that the 
>Vikings were not playoff pretenders.  IMHO, they will prove that next 
>year.
>
I'm a Redskins fan and I have to agree with you.  I think Dennis Green
did a tremendous job with that team this year.  He decided early to
get rid of some talented players whose attitudes he felt would be bad
for his team.  I think he's going to be a contender for years to come,
especialy if he gets a quarterback.  And there seems to be a lot of
them ready to change teams this off-season.

In my heart I was hoping the Redskins would win.  However, my mind told me 
that if you have to depend on another team to get you into the playoffs,
then it doesn't much matter what you do when you get there.  Also, I
was worried about which Redskins team would show up.  I've seen a
couple this year -- good and flat.

I think that playoff experience is an intangible that is hard to figure.
Some teams, like the Redskins, make the most out of playing inexperienced
teams; and other teams don't.  I think that the Redskins D had the Viking
QB totally confused.  There's not too much that can be done about that
during the game.  I also think it happened to Ryp in 1990 against SF.

The only thing I wonder about the Vikings is their decision for small
and fast over big.  My personal feeling is that by having TEs and Hbacks
back to help with the blocking, the Skins were able to offset the speed
of the Vikings Dline.  Then in the 3rd and 4th quarter, the sheer size of
the Redskins Oline wore out the Vikings and our run really got going.  
What are the net's feelings on this?

schalene
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: Predictions.
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:53:34 GMT

In article <C0pyE7.DGH@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan ) writes:
>I agree that it would be better to see the Bills represent the
>AFC in the Super-Bowl.  
>
>I would rather see the Bills playing the 9ers in the SB rather
>than see Marino and his Dolphs make a fool of themselves in
>front of a global audience (The SB is viewed in many countries
>I guess).
>
>S.H

Come on, give the FISH a break and let them make fools of
themselves THIS YEAR. The BILLS have already been to the
dance TWICE and they did a pretty job of looking like fools.:^)

-- 
"A cynic is one who never sees a good quality in a man,
and never fails to see a bad one. He is the human owl,
vigilant in darkness and blind to light, mousing for
vermin, and never seeing noble game."  Henry Ward Beecher
From: andres@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Andres Lebaudy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Free Agency
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:15:10 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, Philadelphia PA

In article <1iuu40INNoov@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.170359.21739@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> blah@maas-neotek.arc.nasa.gov (MJW/TWF) writes:
>>[stuff deleted]
>
> >Note also that I'm a Dallas fan, although I'm kind of glad that we
> >cannot sign White (I think his presence would screw things up - the
> >same way Jackson's did in Miami).
>
>True but remember Steve Beuerline will be leaving and most likely 
>will sign in the 2Mil range which means dallas CAN sign a player
>for that ammount of cash......I agree I don't want Reggie or
>any other Eagles for that matter.....nothing but trouble....
>
>
>tim

I'm a big Cowboy fan spending my college days in Philadelphia.
While most Eagle players can certainly be considered 'nothing
but trouble', Reggie White is a class act and would give the
Cowboys a few very solid years.  I don't know if getting White
is a good idea, I'm just saying that you can't question this
guy's character.  Also, I think he was a big Cowboy fan when
he was growing up in Tenessee.  He definitely wouldn't have 
any trouble fitting in to the Cowboy system.

Andres
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: My NFL Playoff Predictions
Date: 7 Jan 1993 15:03:48 GMT
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In article <cfGynPW00WDKM3Omwb@andrew.cmu.edu> Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
 >Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 6-Jan-93 Re: My NFL
 >Playoff Predictions 4E150M@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (2408)  

 >the "shitty" teams they played. SF, Washington and Dallas all lost to 
 >Phoenix (SD beat Phoenix), Miami and Buffalo lost to Indianapolis (SD

BUZZZZZZT ! wrong
The Cowboys swept the Cards this year.

By the way, could someone post Steve Young's NFL playoff record ?

Thanks
tim
Go Big D !!!
From: rinehart@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: SON OF CRAP FOOTBALL!
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:06:10 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1993Jan8.132300.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:

> Hi there Hamish here again,I couldn't resist posting another message
> after the number of flames to my last one.
> Those of you who are telling me to shut up, because no one is interested are
> obviously wrong going by the ammount of response there's been.
> The trouble with this newsgroup and the sport itself, is that it's so
> fucking boring, without an occasional post of this time the readers would

Actually, the trouble is that *you're* so fucking boring - but of
course, you must have known that already, as I'm sure people have told
you that already, and hell, you knew it inside anyway.

> So a few points to raise on recent flames.
> If footballers are so fit, then how come, they can only last ten
> minutes before coming off and sending another team on, and what
> about the number of time outs you have in the game.Mayby if you only
> played one team, and had a more flowing games, I wouldn't be in a
> position to slag your sport,as it is sitting down to watch a
> football game, which I have done is like sitting down in front of 
> a washing machine for 4 hours.With soccer, you get a fast flowing
> game, with non-stop excitmemt.

The thing is, you're just stupid enough to not be able to comprehend
the game of football, so discussing the game with you is pointless. 

> For all you too stupid to understand the subtle point I made when I said
> footballers were dickless, I'll explain.I was refering to the fact that
> the've taken so much steroids,thier genitalia has shrivelled up and
> disappeared.

Mind telling us just how you know this?......Ah, forget it, I think we
get the picture. 

> For eveyone who has picked me up on my previous spelling mistakes, I
> thought I would prove to you that I can spell properlly, if I sit down
> and look at what I am typing.These mistakes are just due to typing errors.

Hey, you still haven't gotten it right - doubtful you ever will,
judging by the intelligence level you've shown so far.

> By the way America has the biggest proportion of iliterate people, in the
> western world, not to mention the porpotion of fat bastards you have.
> come yee flame
> Hamish 

Because you haven't the intelligence to sustain an argument, your
words above are your only option. I personally love it when someone
like you demonstrates just how little self-respect you have, for all
the net to see. 


Mark
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