From: ldong@hila.hut.fi (Liyun Dong)
Subject: Re: Steroid (and more)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:13:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.103411.17912@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> huangzh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Huang) writes:
>There are many discussions about steroid (or other drugs) use lately and it
>seems many people are enjoying talking about this. Great.  But please keep
>in mind the following (and other) facts:
>	--there are many "substances" that can "enhance" one's performance
>one way or another (is coffee one of them?);
>	--in the sports world, the "test" is only targeted to SOME of them;
>	--As for some substances (including steroid in many cases), after
>stopping using them for a certain peroid of time, the "test" will show
>"negative" while the strengthened muscles (effect) are still there, ie.
>there is a time gap;
>	--it is possible to adjust the gap to overlap the game/meet so you
>would have strong muscles and greater endurance but the test shows nothing;
>	--one common way (and the East Germen thought it was a good way) to
>help keeping the strengthened muscles from fading back to normal after 
>stopping using the drug, is to move the athletes to high latittude areas
>before the games. Of course, there are many innovative ways to keep the 
>drug trace out of the urine test samples while still keep the muscles.
>	--there are many "scientists" working their butt off to find out the
>right substance, and the dosage and schedule for using (and stopping using
>it) before the games, and find out the way to make the drug trace minimum
>in the test sample while the effect (muscles) can still be there for the 
>games.  It would be save to say the number of such "scientists" is LARGE
>than the number of those who work their butt off to find out the better
>way to test the athletes;
>	--some athletes used banned drugs without their knowledge (for
>example some former E. Germen) while some agreed to use the drug;
>	--the danger of those "performance enhance substance" vary, depends
>on the substance, dosage, the condition of the athlete, etc.;
>	--some reports say that most athletes from those sports powerhouse
>countries use one thing or another to "enhance" their performance, some used
>banned substance but many used substances that were not clearly banned but 
>have the same (or even stronger) effects;
>	--drug test can only detect a few known substances;
>	--many people (and athletes alike) belive that in the 90's using
>performance enhance substances is part of the game. Especially for those
>sports that require muscle strength, "if you want to be better than others,
>you have to use it, and use it in a smarter way than others";
>	  
>
>
>I don't want to say another about Chinese athletes. Those who really want
>to know the truth should make some friends from the national women's
>teams whose sports require strong muscle (not famous ping-peng team please!)
>then start by asking the question like "how do you postpone a women athlete's
>period if it happens to be during the game?" ...then you would know what to 
>ask next.
>
>--Andy
>
>  
>
>-- 
>=============================== Andy Huang <huangzh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
>P.S. Thank you for reading my article. We may not share the same idea but I 
>respect whatever thoughts you may have. Please feel free to agree/disagree, 
>to laugh/criticize/protest. Or to use "kill", s'il vous plait.


Seems reasonable. But your can only proove that EVERYONE is possible to
use drugs. The strangest thing is that when Chineses win the medals, they
have to face more rumors and accusations. That's unfair.
I am very curious about Chinese shooters: what kind of drugs did they use?

As about 'drugs', I wonder what is the exact definition. If something can
increase your strength but not banned, I don't think why you can't use it.
Your lunch meals can incease your strength and certainly not banned by the 
Olympic Committee. Are you going to accuse someone only he or she eats 
something more delicious?

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