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From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: update me on the singers...
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 03:42:25 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <Bxu846.Myz@acsu.buffalo.edu> v123ptyu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sungwoo Kim) writes:
>I liked Suh Tae Jee and Kids interpretation of the Rap and their performance.

	For those who care, their concert live video tape is out.
	The stupid-look dark faced guy is supposed to be one of the best
	dancers in Korea; and he shows off his skill by spinning with his
	head on the ground on one of the TukJongTV... (which is the
	only show program I watch); he was pretty impressive.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
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From: terry@cs.mcgill.ca (Terry LIM)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Hanterm and cu command
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:53:13 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada


Is there anyone out there who is using hanterm and using
unix 'cu' command to dial out to a full internet accessible
remote machine to use kids.kotel.co.kr?

I am currently using han3term on Silicon graphics Iris and using
cu to dial out to a university that has access to full internet.
I don't seem to be able to display Hangul characters properly.

Could some one with any experience in this matter post to this news
group or E-mail me personally?

Thank you in advance.

Pkim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby,
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:45:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.144403.16050@news.acns.nwu.edu>, phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
> In article <1992Nov19.020303.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon) writes:
>>Dear Abby,
>>
>>I just got my X-girlfriend a dozen longstem red roses for no special
>>occasion.  Do you think she may take it as a romantic advance? I just 
>>wanted her to cheer up a little and enjoy her Thanksgiving break.  Do
>>you think I shouldn't have? 
>>
>>Broke and Curious
> 
> Now that I was called "conservative" I do not see anything wrong calling
> myself "Abby."  So here we go.
> 
> I think what you did is wonderful provided:
> 
> 1. You do not have a current girlfriend who may feel jealous about the
>    whole deal.
> 2. You do not mind your ex feeling romantic about you.
> 3. You can afford the roses.
> 
> I never saw any woman who was offended by roses under any circumstances.
> In fact, I am cautious to send roses because of its strong romantic
> implications and if my action does not follow up to it, then I may be
> guilty of raising false hope (or nightmare depending on their view of me).
> 
> For the intention you described above, I usually use some other flowers.
> 
> James "Abby" Choi
> 

1. Nope, I do not have a current girlfriend but a lot of my female friends were
   not pleased that they weren't the ones getting the roses.  Hew, I guess you
   CANNOT please everybody. 

2. My X and I had a relatively clean breakup and we are still very good
   friends. I doubt she will ever feel romantic about me but even if she did,
   I don't think I would mind that terribly.  

3. Well, I did but now after I did it, I can't.

Some interesting points were raised by Abby. Even though I sent roses without
any romantic understream I should be guilty of rasing nightmare?  I dunno about
that.  If I included a clear "instructions" specifically telling her not to do
so, would I still be guilty as charged?  I mean, I am sure some people may say
, "Sure, you are just saying that.  But you certainly sending roses?  How else 
would you take it but as a romantic guesture?"  Don't you think?  How far do
I have to go in explaining it to her?  Coulnd't I have just felt like getting
her longstem roses, which by the way are her favourite, and just sent her some
without having to worry about all this?  Maybe we are giving too much meaning
to the ROSES and things like that.  What do you think, Abby?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: south@wam.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: TAMPOPO (was Re: Soojaebi (was Re: My life as a Bulgogi))
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:57:55 GMT

In article <99003@netnews.upenn.edu> hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung) writes:
>"I have a pit inside my stomach!" 
>   - Mr. Kube, DELICATESSEN.

	And you have a beggar in your stomach!
-- 
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com
	dskim@eng.umd.edu south@wam.umd.edu
From: moon@acca.nmsu.edu ('short attention span theater')
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: korean males who cook
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:05:11 GMT
Organization: Alternative Collegiate Computing Association


I lived off campus for many years and I gradually evolved
from boiling water for coffee to 
Sapporo-Ichiban and Ramen to 
Microwaveing steaks to
trial and error bul-go-gi.

FOB's get a good laugh when they hear that I know how to cook.

I get a good laugh when I am enjoying a dish that came out unusually
well.

- jon
-- 
99 logic errors in a program, 99 logic errors, fix one up, run it again, 
100 logic errors in a program. 100 logic errors in a program,100 logic errors, 
fix one up, run it again,101 logic errors in a program.101 logic errors in a 
program,101 logic errors, fix one up, run it again, 102 logic errors in a 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Subject: Hyunsuk, this one's for you!
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:38:01 GMT


	Instead of following up to your previous response within the
subject of Kim Yong Oak, which again you successfully turned into not
food this time but a higher level of individual concerns,  I have
placed upon myself a pundit role of helping you to relieve your
anxieties without creating further myths about your "gastornomic
pleasure," "secret to your weight," and your status of "human
hierarchy" which you may or may not be entitle of.
        So here you are!  All yours, and I assure you that no one will
attempt to turn this topic arround to something else, for everyone
knows that it will turn right back again to the familiar subject you
seem to dwell upon immensely.  BTW, what's the next dish? :)

        Still taking a remote interest in what you have to say,
                despite what I wrote above...

        Gag-Lae Kurtis Kim
        gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
        THE SEEKER OF TRUTH
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Re: Kidnapping young girls
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:30:27 GMT

On topic of forced prostution.

In article <22NOV199220125008@zeus.tamu.edu> c0y2509@zeus.tamu.edu (Charles Willow/Chang-Hoon Yoo) writes:
>Yes, saddly and VERY unfortunately, YES!
>
>[description of fat vs sexual drive deleted]
>[explanation of supply and demand deleted]
>
>Your buscuit-brained G.I's were originally stationed in Korea NOT to defend the
>country, not to show off the good-will, and most of all, NOT to solidify the
>alliance between the two nations, but for the "strategic" sake of the U.S.

[and other colorful descriptions of American G.I. in Korea deleted]

>I know these bastards 'cause I was sick of even seeing 'em aroung me while I
>was in my military uniform.  Oh by the way, I wasn't a member of the KATUSA
>(Korean Augmentation TO US Army), but a  proud 2nd Lieu. of the Black barets
>of the Korean Army -- the Paratroopers (responsibe for kinda' operations what
>the Navy seals will do).

This does not explain much about the kidnapping question because Army base
related (supply) are only a fraction.  This barbaric act is happening among
Koreans for the Koreans.  There are a few incidents of visiting
Korean-Americans who escaped kidnapping narrowly.  One high school girl was
slapped on her face out of blue on a busy street broad daylight.  The young
man who slapped her proceeded to say "Where have you been, our father has
been waiting for you for days..." and dragged her into his car.  Others
watched on thinking brother is bringing his run-away sister back home.  But
it was a kidnapping.  If not for her aunt who engaged herself in physical
fight to save this high school girl, this girl might have never returned to
the U.S. again.  So much for visiting mother-land.

This kind of kidnapping is rampant to satiate the never ending desire of
Korean males.  It is easier to see a live naked girl than seenig a porn
movie in Korea, I was told.  The demand of the U.S. army may be a part of
it.  But a huge percentage of it is Korens themselves.  While women's right
group is working on "comfort girl" compensation from Japan, the others are
making their own race into comfort girls TODAY as we speak.

[a HUGE signature deleted]

James Choi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: Ken.J.Taylor@cray.com (Ken J.  Taylor - Huntington Beach)
Subject: Re: korean guys...
Reply-To: Ken.J.Taylor@cray.com 
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:16:24 CST

One of my European-American mates wouldn't let me do the dishes because
she said, "...that is not a man's job."  Recently, an
Asian-European-American woman accused me of being a Japanese-like
because I asked her to cook dinner:  I only asked her to do that
instead of paying for the expensive dinner that we just had that she
adamantly wanted to pay for.  I'm sad about the no-win situation and
continually being stereotyped by people of my own race.



Ken Taylor

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: questions of the Korean War
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:43:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.205411.3685@news.acns.nwu.edu> andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim) writes:
>Please add following information to your analysis:
>    [From "Modern Times", Paul Johnson ... pg 425]
>
>  On 6 June (1945) the Japanese Supreme Council approved a document,
>  'Fundamental Policy to be Followed henceforth in the Conduct of
>   the War', which assertd 'we shall ... prosecute the war to the
>  bitter end'.  THe final plan for the defense of Japan itself,
>  'Operation Decision', provided for 10,000 suicide plane (most
>  converted trainers), fifty-three infantry troops would fight on the
>  beaches, backed by 4 million army and navy civil employees and a 
>  civiliAan militia of 28 million.  They were to have weapons which 
>  included bamboo spears and bows and arrows.  Special legislation
>  was passed by the Diet to form this army.  The allied commanders
>  assumed that their own forces must expect up to a million casulties
>  if an invasion of Japan became necessary.  How many Japanese lives
>  would be lost?  Assuming comparable ratios to these already
>  experienced, it would be in the range of 10-20 million.

	However, this was in June.  In August, the Soviets declared war.
"The Russians, meanwhile, declared war on August 8 and the Red Army moved
forward in Manchuria and southern Sakhalin.  The Japanese Manchurian Army
surrendered."  (Rise to Globalism by Stephen Ambrose.)  I gave more
weight to the argument that said that the Japan may be ready to die by
inflicting a terrible damage to the United States, but she wasn't ready
to fight both the US and the Russians at the same time and from two
different directions.
>
PS-Welcome back, Andrew.  Long time, no type.  :)


-- 
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From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: (Why I do not want to be in) Re: Service in Korea
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:39:05 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Nov18.043717.18575@tc.cornell.edu> jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
>In any case, why should serving in the
>army be more honorable than anything else?

No.  Fulling one's duty is against one's interest or will is honorable.
Self sacrifice for bigger cause is honorable.  Something that I am
incapable of doing, unless forced.

>T. H. Brian Chung            

James Choi
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Dear Abby,
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:24:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov19.020303.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon) writes:
> ...
> I just got my X-girlfriend a dozen longstem red roses for no special
> occasion.  Do you think she may take it as a romantic advance? I just 
> wanted her to cheer up a little and enjoy her Thanksgiving break.  Do
> you think I shouldn't have? 
> ...

Free yourself from the heavy handed notion of attaching symbolism to
flowers, and just give them to your ex-girlfriend in a form of
primitive speech found in the old days where languages still did not
exist.  Even if the door to her heart may never open to you no matter
how long you wait or pray, do not get discouraged.  Even if she
whispers to your ear that I am her doorkeeper, do not get discouraged.
Your thoughtfulness shall be rewarded, although sending roses only
resulted in termination of my relationship.

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: v123ptyu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sungwoo Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: update me on the singers...
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:58:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.Bxu846.Myz
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <If21aAi00iV4M7D21W@andrew.cmu.edu>, hm15+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hannah Moon) writes...
>hi everyone.  my name is hannah.  i was in korea this summer had a
>really good time.  i was wondering, who are the hot pop singers now? 
>this summer i must have seen suh tae jee and kids at least 5 times each
>day on tv. i hope they're not singing anymore...  i only like juno.
>and also the gal who worships madonna and sings eh-soo has got to go
>too.  she's ugly as sin.
>i liked shin- seung hun this summer. 
>if anyone has his album in cmu, get in touch with me.
>later

I liked Suh Tae Jee and Kids interpretation of the Rap and their performance.
Their performance was best among recent trial by other singer incorporating
Korean into a rap song. Other known singer who have tried rap were
Park Nam Jung and Shin Seung Hoon.

That's my opinion.

I do, however, like many of Shin Seung Hoon's and personally carry one
of his CD album.  Some of my favorite singers are Park Young Mi,
Lee Sang Woo, Lee Moon Sei and all time favorite group HaeBaRagi.

Well, reach me back.

Also, If anyone know about recent pop chart please post the result.
It is advisable to report recent poll or watch TOP 10 show.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby,
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:07:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.020303.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon) writes:
>Dear Abby,
>
>I just got my X-girlfriend a dozen longstem red roses for no special
>occasion.  Do you think she may take it as a romantic advance? I just 
>wanted her to cheer up a little and enjoy her Thanksgiving break.  Do
>you think I shouldn't have? 
>
>Broke and Curious

	I'm no Usenet Oracle, but hey.  

Dear Broke and Curious,

If you sent a dozen longstem red roses to anyone, be it your ex or no,
you just spent too much money and you deserve to be broke.  If you
had that much money lying around, you should have sent it to Brian Chung
For S.C.K. Net.Godhood Campaign Fund.  

-- 
T. H. Brian Chung                      | Happiness is...              
Internet: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu   | "Tea, Earl Grey, hot."
Bitnet: jfe@cornella                   | 210 Lake St. Apt. 11-A 
DECnet: CESR10::THC                    | Ithaca, NY 14850  Tel: 607-272-1543
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Curch
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:57:31 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov22.175337.461@eng.umd.edu> dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
> ...
> I could not forget the wierd feeling when I went to Korean Church (which
> had some internal political problems about the leadership & money)
> as soon as I landed on U.S. - to me, it looked more than a religeous
> place - picking up a data, doing business, finding gamble-partner, ... etc.

Don't forget the delicious and abundant meals the housewives serve
after the prayer!  I was always dazzled by the rich flavor of sticky
rice they manage to make in those HUGE rice cookers.  As they all
say...  preparedness makes doing easy!

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: (Why I do not want to be in) Re: Service in Korea
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 03:28:03 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1992Nov18.025539.13991@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>
>And the above statement is, shamelessly speaking, my answer.  And as usual,
>I suspect I am only guilty of speaking straight.  I suspect many others
>think the same way, except they are not stupid enough to state it in
>public.

	I guess I was stupid having said that it's because
	it sucks to be in military for 2.5 years, stupid.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: cho@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Il Hyung Cho)
Subject: Church Service Names (Re: Names was Re: Dating)
Followup-To: soc.culture.korean
Organization: LORAL - Western Development Labs
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:53:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.205419.1838@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>,
ahn@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.k.ahn) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Nov18.181822.22064@eng.umd.edu> dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
> >In article <1992Nov18.173751.26749@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> ahn@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.k.ahn) writes:
> >>.... coming up with short, alternative names......
> >>This is not exclusively a church matter, since such difficulty in names
> >>seems to happen whenever there is a mix of Koreans, Korean-Americans,
> >>and others.
> >
> >	What's wrong with using Korean since it is correctly used for
> >	race/ethnic background.  Above, you seperated Koreans and
> >	Korean-Americans, which means you used 1st Korean as nation (Korean
> >	citizen) and 2nd Korean as race; why don't you just use Korean
> >	as race so that you can just say A word Korean; if you don't like it,
> >	why not Koreans and Americans.
> 
> You misunderstood my request.  I need an alternative for the
> English-language ministry, because I don't like it being referred
> to as "American ministry", implying that Koreans are not Americans.
> I am perfectly happy with Korean-language ministry being referred to
> as "Korean ministry".
> 

Hey consider yourself lucky...

At my church, the church secretary still thinks it's a youth service 
even though my Korean (English speaking) pastor keeps correcting her
that it is an English Service (no we do not have any other ethnic people
attending the service).  It's interesting though, we're trying to get rid
of the concept that it's a Youth service when people call.  

We lose new members that way.. especially college students who doesn't
speak Korean fluently...

Il Hyung Cho
Macintosh Systems Support
LORAL - Western Development Labs
Internet:  cho@wdl1.wdl.loral.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Names (was Re: Dating)
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:58:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.173751.26749@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> ahn@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.k.ahn) writes:
>
>It's probably bad form to follow up on my own post, but here is a question
>prompted by the above thought:
>
>Our church has two services on Sundays, one in English and one in Korean,
>with different pastors for each.  Officially, they are referred to as
>"English-language ministry" and "Korean-language ministry".  But those
>are mouthfuls and people commonly refer to them as "American ministry"
>and "Korean ministry" (Brian, you can seen that your usage is quite
>common :-)  But that's precisely the reason I want to discourage such usage).
>For the reason cited above, I do not like these names.  But I am having
>difficult time coming up with short, alternative names.  The pastor of
>English-language ministry is aware of this, and uses "Anglo ministry" and
>"Korean ministry".  I don't like this either, since there are black
>people and Hispanic people in the English-language ministry.  It is even
>worse when talking about people instead of the ministry (e.g., Anglo kids
>or "English-language ministry kids" and Korean Kids or "Korean-language
>ministry kids").
>
>This is not exclusively a church matter, since such difficulty in names
>seems to happen whenever there is a mix of Koreans, Korean-Americans,
>and others.
>
>Any suggestions?

	To me, Korean ministry sounds just fine, since the word "Korean"
can refer to the language, instead of the nationality of the people.
I'm at my wit's end as far as "English-language ministry" goes.  The 
only thing I can think of is "Anglophonic ministry" as we would say
in Canada.  But that's as bad as the older one, in terms of being a
mouthful.  Hm...how about just calling the whole thing "church" and
"church kids?"  :)  

	Oh, as for my differentiating a second generation Korean from
an American, it's a Freudian slip.  I lived in Canada a lot longer than
in the States, and there, I never was corrected.  Multiculturalism, you
know.  (And in the good sense of the word, not multiculturalism as some\
four-letter word.  :)  )  That's why I tend to say the place of the origin
of one's ancestors.  At this rate, I'll probably end up calling everyone
African, from Olduvai Gorge.  :)

>
>Thanks,
>
>J. Ahn
>AT&T Bell Laboratories (which, of course, has nothing to do with this
>post or any of my opinions)


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T. H. Brian Chung                      | Happiness is...              
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From: cho@kobe.che.utexas.edu.che-profs (Wonhui Cho,cpe 5.420,471-5150,499-8598)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: My dear chungkookchang...
Summary: test
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:23:28 GMT
Reply-To: cho@kobe.che.utexas.edu.che-profs
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: moon@acca.nmsu.edu ('short attention span theater')
Subject: Re: Dating
Organization: Alternative Collegiate Computing Association
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:56:06 GMT

I find nothing wrong with asian girls dating non asian guys.
I don't even notice them until someone else points them out.

But I get a funny feeling when I see asian guys with caucasian girls,
sort of like embarassment. I know I shouldn't feel this way esp. since 
I myself have only dated blonds ( by coincidence I assure you )
Maybe because I've been watching too many U.S. made movies
where asian males have only had dishonorable intentions for 
caucasian women, and not enough movies like "The Big Brawl" 
w/JackieChan where the yellow guy DOES get the girl.

-- 
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