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From: bernard@cs.colorado.edu (Bernie Bernstein)
Subject: Mac LC monitor recommendations
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:29:23 GMT

A friend is purchasing a Mac LC II and needs to get a color monitor to go
with it. She wants to get something like the Apple HiRes Monitor, but it is
expensive. I guess any 14" trinitron is going to cost more that a cheapo
14" sampo, but what are the differences? She is not considering the 12"
monitor options. She wants something with the standard 640x480 resolution.

Who makes an inexpensive monitor with a trinitron tube? How do the other
brands (magnavox, nec, sampo) compare? What are the drawbacks of having a
cheaper monitor?

Please email responses. I'll summarize.

Thanks

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From: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE screen dimmer : help
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:26:55 GMT
Reply-To: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Organization: Intermec Corporation, Everett WA

In article <1992Aug24.161003.12006@emr1.emr.ca> knguyen@emr.ca (khanh kim, nguyen) writes:
>Screen of SE at my printing station becomes dimmer or greyish and is not
>as bright as before. I don't know who did it because it's still bright a
>moment before. I put Brightness control panel, but it doesn't work. I
>look around the machine and find no clues about switches. I have no doc
>on hand because it is kept by a secretary who is off today.
>Any clue ? 





The SE brigthness control is located under the overhang on the front left of
the unit.  The brigthness control panel WILL NOT work on the SE.


Howard Kaplan
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Do the new macs have ethernet?
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:41:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Aug25.174154.26075
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

hodas@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Josh Hodas) writes:

>In all the articles I have read thus far (mostly MacWeek) I have seen
>no mention of on-board ethernet. While this is unlikely to show up in
>the Performa line, I would think it would in the IIvi/vx line, since those
>will be popular lab machines.

>Has anyone out there heard anything about this?

    The latest word if that there will not be on board ethernet in any
of the new mac that are coming out this October. In fact it doesn't look
like Apple is planing on putting ethernet in anything less than an '040
machine. 

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From: louis@well.sf.ca.us (Louis Jaffe)
Subject: Re: Keeping Syquest cartridge in drive...
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:08:14 GMT

I was warned in no uncertain terms: don't leave the cart in the drive.
What I do is, unmount the disk and eject it, but leave it in the drive
slot, partially sticking out.  This way, the protective door on the
cartridge is shut.  When I power up, I shove in the cartridge and it
mounts as the system starts.  LJ
From: mkary@math.bu.edu (Michael Kary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Colour Inkjet Printer Info Wanted
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:04:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Boston University, Boston
Originator: mkary@math.bu.edu


Does anyone have any experience with the Tektronics  inkjet (liquid
inks, not the crayons) colour printer? I would be interested
especially in resistance of inks to smudging/water solubility, fade
resistance, clarity of text printing, reliability, street price, and
operating costs. 

Any experiences on these matters with other colour inkjet printers
(especially the Canon BJC820) would be appreciated.

Please respond by email and I'll post a summary.

Michael Kary  mkary@math.bu.edu
From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Upgrading Laserwriter LS to postscript?
Keywords: printers, LS, postscript
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:00:44 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

In article <5592@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> neil@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Neil Jon Henson) writes:
>
>	We would like to print postscript files on our Personal Laserwriter LS. Are there any hardware add-ons/accelerators around that would allow us to do this, or will we have to bite the bullet and buy a dedicated postscript laser printer.
>

There's the Xante Accel-a-Writer, which will upgrade your Laserwriter LS to
a 600 dpi Postscript-compatible printer.  I don't have much information on
it, however.  Ask your dealer about it.

h.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: alan@wam.umd.edu (Alan J. Schunemann)
Subject: Will the 141MB Sun shoeboxes work on the Mac?
Originator: alan@rac2.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:48:56 GMT

Thanks for any input.
Alan
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From: farber@linc.cis.upenn.edu (David Farber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook screen life
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:57:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



the backlite is on ftp.apple.com in pub utilities/wowerbook or something like that
David Farber; Prof. of CIS and EE, U of Penn, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6389 Tele:
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1198 "The fundamental principle of science, the definition almost, is this: the
sole test of the validity of any idea is experiment." -- R. P. Feynman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wdburns@mtu.edu (WILLIAM D. BURNS)
Subject: PB 170 trackball only does vertical!
Organization: CCLI Macintosh Lab, Michigan Tech University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:39:36 GMT

Is this a known problem or did this thing just partially die on me....
Symptom:
  Right in the middle of using the word processor, the internal trackball
on my PB170 decided to stop tracking right/left motions.  It didn't die
all at once - at first it was like a dirty roller (i.e. skipping or
stuttering), then after a few minutes it just gave up.

Everything looks clean inside.  When I took the ball out, I pushed on the
little receptor diode (the clear, opaque device on the left inside the
trackball hole) and it would register movement....but only if I fiddled
with it.

What I'd like to know is: is this a common problem with PB170's or did
mine just puke out on me and I'll have to take it in to the money-pit
(aka service person)??

Thanks a bunch,

Bill Burns
  

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From: rasp@xlnt.com (Ron Perloff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Using Two Screens
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:49:59 GMT
Organization: xdi

In article <1992Aug31.235407.28352@gtephx.UUCP> patfieldk@gtephx.UUCP (Kevin M.
Patfield) writes:

>Anyone found good ways to use that 29 sq in of useful real-estate?
>Perhaps I should consider letting it as advertising space!

Yes. In a networked, multi-printer environment, it is incredibly handy
to leave chooser on the native screen. Scrapbook is nice, too.

Ronald S. Perloff     rasp@xlnt.com
XLNT Designs, Inc.  (XDI)
15050 Avenue of Science
Suite 106
San Diego, CA  92128
619 487 9320   -   FAX: 619 487 9768
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: LC video RAM upgrade
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:55:32 GMT

In article <185hksINNk1d@agate.berkeley.edu> daver@sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu (David Ray) writes:
>In article <715514553.F00001@blkcat.UUCP> Mark.J..Sisson@p842.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Mark J. Sisson) writes:
>>I agree entirely. I have a Tokamac LC in mine and I am very pleased! It is a
>>very expensive item though. You've got to REALLY want speed! But it works well.
>
>I'm probably going to get an accelerator for my LCII at the upcoming MacWorld
>and I want to compare price/performance between the Tokamac LC and the
>40 or 50 MHz PowerCache. I know both really speed up the Mac -- the Tokamac
>25 MHz/040 is about $2000 and the 50MHz/030 PCache w/coprocessor is about $1200.
>040 cache turned off the Tokamac is slower than the 50MHz PCache.


The latest prices I've seen are more like $1200 *without* the FPU and $1500
with FPU.  Has there been another price reduction I don't know about?
Maybe by ordering the one without FPU and getting the FPU chip from
somewhere else you could save some.

Daystar is about to come out with a 33Mhz 68040 PowerCache, and I
believe the '040 is a "real" '040 (i.e. with built-in FPU and MMU,
unlike certain other '040 accelerators).

The best part is that Daystar is offering a special deal to people who
buy the 50Mhz 68030 PowerCache now.  You can upgrade from the 50Mhz '030
PowerCache with FPU for $99, and you can upgrade from the 50Mhz '030
PowerCache without FPU for $399.  That's supposed to be a savings of
$300 off of the standard "difference in retail price" upgrade policy. I
think the deal only applies to those who buy (not upgrade to) the 50Mhz
'030 between the time the '040 was announced and when it is released.

Those are all the details I have. I'm trying to find out more.

--
Steve Kanefsky
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PowerBooks...Are they reliable?
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:40:51 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

danny@utkux1.utk.edu (Danny W. McCampbell) writes:

>Hi!  I just talked with a friend of mine who is a Certified
>Macintosh Technician or something along those lines.  Well
>he told me that the PowerBooks are junk.  He said that they
>are constantly doing work on them.  He said that the screens
>or displays are really having problems.  

    Well, about the only real complaints about PB screens that I have
heard of with any regularity is the "dead pixel" problem on the Active
Matrix Display for the 170. I have yet to hear any real complaints about
the 140/145 screen.

>This discouraged me a great deal as I am getting ready to 
>buy a PowerBook.  Can anyone out there give me some good news
>on PowerBooks.  

    Well, that depends on what you call good news. The best news I've
heard about the 180 is that it an the 160 both have video output
capability and can both be hooked up to a mac with a special SCSI cord
and be accessed as an external HD. Other than that, the only other "good
news" is that the prices are continuing to drop.

>I plan to buy a 180 when they come out.  I do not have a personal Mac
>right now and I was planning on the 180 to be my Mac for everything.  I
>was going to buy and external Monitor and put on it for home use.  I
>have a CI at work right now and really like it but I need portablity.

    Sounds like a good plan to me. I'm probably going to be doing much
the same thing in a couple of years, but currently through my job I not
only have a Quadra 950 on (under ;) my desk, but I also have full use of
a 170 8/80. But this job is moving in 3 years so I'll be looking to get
my own Mac by then.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: martin@lillee.cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Subject: Re: Recording sound with PB100?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:55:32 GMT

crispy@space.mit.edu (Chris Pak) writes:
>Can PB100 be used to record sound? ... perhaps using the serial port?

Yes. Using a MacRecorder or similar device, plugged into a serial port.
The MacRecorder itself is just a small box with built-in microphone and
LINE-IN ports (for recording from external sources or additional mikes.)
There are also blueprints available (on sumex, I believe) for building your
own rather cheaply, though it's much simpler to just buy the original.

They work perfectly on other Mac models, but I personally have had slight
problems using one on my PowerBook 100: there is a slight gritty noise in
the background of all recordings.  Despite posting to the net about this
before, I have not been able to find out whether this is a generic 
PowerBook 100 problem.

A PowerBook with a microphone and SoundEdit makes a pretty impressive
portable sampling machine!

Martin
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From: russ@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Radius Color Pivot/LE info
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:20:42 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I noticed that someone had mentioned that they'd had pretty good luck
using the Radius Color Pivot/LE with an SE 30.  Has anyone used this
monitor with an IIsi or even a IIci?  I noticed that MacDepot is
selling the monitor and the Video card for $799.  It seems almost too
good to pass up, but I'd like to know more about it.  Does anyone know
if its been reviewed in any of the Mac Magazines?

Respond here or e-mail me.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Russ Paden
Internet: Russ@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Bitnet: Russ@ukanvax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Oh my god...Did I just fry my Plus?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:25:57 GMT

daniel@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (Dan Quoidbach) writes:
>get my computer functioning again. If the chip did fry my computer, is
>there any chance that I can get the Chip Merchant to pay for repairs? Is
>there a cheaper place than an Apple dealer to get repairs done? Comments
>and advice on any or all of my problems (well, just my computer problems)
>are welcome. Thanks in advance.
We ordered simms from Chip Merchant 2 or 3 times and got bad chips every time.
I was surprised since I bought the simms for my SE/30 at home from Chip
Merchant and had no problems with them.  Also many people on the net
recomend them.  All i can say is they must be letting quality slip.
They were also very rude on the phone.
-Terry

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu (Jeff Hite )
Subject: Everex Power Supplies? Skynet?
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 20:21:28 GMT

I'm looking for a source for replacement power supplies for Everex  
external SCSI devices. They are Skynet brand supplies and measure 3"x 5".  
If someone could point me in the direction for a distributor for these it  
would be much appreciated. Please e-mail or post.
Thanks,
Jeff Hite	jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mauricio		@vaxrio.enet.dec.com (Mauricio P. Henriques)
Subject: Re: Bernoulli Drives: Are they good?
Organization: 	Digital Equipment do Brasil - Rio de Janeiro
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:48:14 GMT


In article <1992Aug23.142237.18914@afterlife.ncsc.mil>, mssmith@afterlife.ncsc.mil (M. Scott Smith) writes...
>Howdy..
> 
>   And just recently, Bernoulli introduced the MacTransportable 90 PRO.  It
>has a price tag which is supposed to be 40% less than the earlier drive, and
>it offers all the features.  (It comes with the Mac interface built in.)

	As far as I know, this new model has only one SCSI connector, forcing
you to put it at the end of your SCSI chain. If you already have any equipment
in this condition (my case: I have a UMAX scanner) you cannot have both on the
same SCSI simultaneously.

> 
>   So..  For all of you who use or know about Bernoulli drives, please let me
>know your experiences!  How quick are they?  Have you had any crashes?  Are
>you very satisfied with it, or do you have any horror stories?  Anything
>special I should know?

	I have a Bernoulli Transportable 90, the model with 2 SCSI connectors,
and I'm very satisfied with it. You can put them horizontally or vertically at
your desk, allowing for some space-saving. The speed isn't equal to the
internal 80MB drive, mainly because it spins down when not in use, but is
acceptable, even for interactive use.

> 
>   Also, how do you buy extra 90-meg cartridges?  And how much do you pay for
>them?

	You receive a free cartridge when you buy, but they'll send it to you
after receiving the warranty card. I bought a 3-pack along with the drive. The
drive, cables and software price was around US$ 800,00 and the 3-pack was
around US$ 430,00. I didn't run out of cartridges yet, but I don't have an
internal drive as big as yours.

> 
>Thanks in advance for any information!

	Sure!

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From: babcock@cayman.com (Bill Babcock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB 170 trackball only does vertical!
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:58:59 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems, Inc.
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In article <zaphod-010992155827@gregt.winona.msus.edu> Gregory Talmo,
zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu writes:
>> Everything looks clean inside.  When I took the ball out, I pushed on
the
>> little receptor diode (the clear, opaque device on the left inside the
>> trackball hole) and it would register movement....but only if I fiddled
>> with it.
>> 
>> What I'd like to know is: is this a common problem with PB170's or did
>> mine just puke out on me and I'll have to take it in to the money-pit
>> (aka service person)??

I had the same problem with my 170, and a friend had it with his 140. In
both cases they were returned to Apple's repair center in Texas, the
trackballs replaced, and returned to us within 3-4 days. They also
replaces our floppy drives and screens. What nice folks:-)
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:16262 comp.sys.mac.programmer:14805
From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Trouble using old Rodime drive and VCP Syquest removable
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:44:59 GMT
Organization: ISC - Bunker Ramo, Spokane, WA

In article <1992Aug28.212258.17618@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> gat@robotics.jpl.nasa.gov (Erann Gat) writes:
>I am having problems using an old Rodime 100Mb internal drive with a
>new VCP 88Mb removable external drive.  There seem to be some weird
>driver incompatibilities, and some of my files appear to have been
>corrupted.

This is sorta unrelated, but y'all might want to hear about it.  Recently,
we caught the Rodime 3259 200 Meg drive with its pants down.  When the
internal cache is enabled, once in a while it returns the wrong data
to our system.  We disabled the cache, and so far no problem has turned
up, though it was such an intermittent nasty that we won't be sure for
a couple of months.  A couple of microseconds difference in the timing
of requests and the problem would vanish.  A true Heisenbug, because
adding any instrumentation code would make it hide (no doubt to turn
up in some other scenario that used to work correctly).

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From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Quantum Hard Drives
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:08:16 -0500

 
Would someone please post the range of serial numbers and/or ROM version of the
Apple Quantum 80 meg hard drives that had the stiction problem a while back.
 
I realize that the free replacement period ended a while ago, but we're just
curious if a balky drive we have comes from that period.
From: benkei@cs.utexas.edu (William Kent Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac Plus Ext. HD.  Any problems?
Date: 1 Sep 1992 02:56:09 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Aug31.190358.19383@news.Hawaii.Edu> deane@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Kimo Kanaka De`ane) writes:

>	You must format the drive with the proper interleave ratio (for Mac+
>that's 1:1) or else you may get frequent disk errors. I have a Mac+ and a 

I believe this is incorrect.  I remember reading that interleave for
the Plus should be 3:1, and also when I used Ontrack to format my disk,
the default for the Plus was 3:1.

This make sense due to the slow speed of the plus.  The interleave is
how logically contiguous sectors are placed physically on the disk (on
the track).  1:1 means they are placed right after another, 2:1 means
they are placed every other sector, etc.  The Plus is so slow that it
cannot read as fast as the disk can deliver, so if you do it 1:1 or
2:1, the disk cannot deliver the sectors as soon as it is ready
because the Plus is still digesting the previous, so it skips it on
that rotation, and delivers it when it comes back around to it.  Thus,
with to incorrect interleave, the computer ends up waiting while the
disk goes back around.

>LaCie Cirrus 80M external, and I love it. It's formatted at 1:1, and it's 

You will probably get a much faster transfer time (which is so small
compared to seek time that you may not even notice it except on
large contiguous accesses) if you go to 3:1.

Ah, I remember where I read it (the proper value for the plus):  In an
old GCC catalog.  The phone person said so, too.
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From: patterso@lotusMIT.Edu (Richard Sven Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: se logic board needed
Date: 31 Aug 92 05:39:10 GMT
Reply-To: patterso@lotusMIT.Edu (Richard Sven Patterson)
Distribution: na
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology

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From: louis@well.sf.ca.us (Louis Jaffe)
Subject: Re: LaserJet III w/PacificPagePostscript connect to Mac?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:11:43 GMT

You need to buy an Appletalk interface for the printer to connect it
to a Mac.  HP offers one and so does Pacific Data.  Costs something
like $125 net.