From: rgoers@iset.scan.mc.xerox.com (Ron Goers)
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Subject: Re: Ignorance - Was Re: VOTE, BABY, VOTE!
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:26:34 GMT
Organization: Imaging Science Engineering & Technology, Xerox Corporation

In article <zwC=KyB@engin.umich.edu> jwh@citi.umich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.193244.9448@spectrum.xerox.com>, rgoers@iset.scan.mc.xerox.com (Ron Goers) writes:
>|> In article <zTC=h!=@engin.umich.edu> jwh@citi.umich.edu writes:
>|> >In article <1992Nov12.081725.12946@RedBrick.COM>, jfr@RedBrick.COM () writes:
>|> >|> In article <1992Nov11.005956.23879@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes:
>|> >|> >In article <1992Nov10.210356.11971@gvl.unisys.com> yavo@sdosrv1.gvl.unisys.com (Steve Yavorski) writes:
>|> |> 
>|> >
>|> >No, what is really scary is self-rightgeous individuals who wish
>|> >to force their notion of compassion on other people.  I will
>|> >certainly agree that generosity and compassion is an important
>|> >part of being a Christian.  However, whether a person is being
>|> >generous enough to qualify as a 'true' Chrisian is something
>|> >to be determined between that person and God, it is not to
>|> >be determined by you or some 'democratic' majority.  
>|> 
>|> Generosity, nor any other GOOD WORK will ever make anybody a Christian.
>
>I never said that, nor did I mean to imply that.  Generosity and 
>compassion are necessary but not sufficient criterion to be
>a Christian (IMHO).

O.K.  Then I agree.


>You miss the point.  I'm not arguing that the previous poster shouldn't
>be able to give his opinion, it is the result of what he advocates that
>I'm opposed to.  His position is that all people should be compelled to
>give a portion of their income to the government for charitable purposes.
>The implementation of that idea *is* an imposition of his morals on
>others.  Remember he brought up the idea of being 'Christian'.  I find
>it ironic that someone who would bring this up would also espouse
>a philosophy which seems counter to Christianity (again, IMHO).

I must have missed something, as I didn't read that the same way.  I agree that 
tax money should NOT be spent on special interests, including charity (that *IS*
the Church's job).  I take this point further and apply it to the people who
feel it is their right to abort their mistakes, and make the Gov't (and me) 
pay for it.  I am FIRMLY opposed to abortion! I know my family won't be needing 
any and I don't think I should be forced to fund another person's "choice" to
kill.  There should be *NO* tax money at all spent on special interests!
The Gov't is there to protect and serve us, not to fleece us (even though that
is what they do best)!  Our taxes would be a fraction of what they are today if 
they would do away with funding the special interests.  Not only would this put
money in our pockets, it would leave *us* the extra to spend on *OUR* own special
interests!  After all, why should we PAY the Gov't to collect and re-distribute
our money to special interests for us?  We could do it much more effectively on
our own, and be sure the money was spent where we wanted it.  

ron


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