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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:15:55 GMT
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg

In article <1992Oct15.055252.10280@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel) writes:
>k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:
>>In article <16877B4AA.SDENARO@vm.poly.edu> SDENARO@vm.poly.edu writes:
>>>In the DC it becomes clear that even though he is not the "Sixth" Replicant.
>>>Both Scott and Dick imply that Winne is a replicant.
>>> 
>>But what about the scene where Eeyore leaves the tiny origami Tigger in
>>Winnie's treehouse?
>
>I believe that was actually an origami heffalump. Anyhow, Pooh could not have 
>been a replicant. You remember the scene where Piglet crushes Christopher
>Robin's eyes and then finishes off owl? Well, if you look carefully you 
>will notice the words "Plz ring if answr reqd / Plz knoke if no answr reqrd" 
>in the lift outside. That was Scott's way of being ambiguous. Not many people
>understand that.
>
But I maintain that the scene of Pooh getting stuck in the hole and then
having Kanga stick her fingers in his nostrils indicates that Pooh is
literally stuck between the world of the Replicant and the world of the
Bladerunners. The origami Heffalump is just Eeyore's way of telling Pooh
that he won't hunt him down because he is a replicant also and understands
the true meaning of the implanted Heffalump dreams!

Silly old Bear/Replicant!


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From: dlightne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David E Lightner)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Bad Movie
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:57:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Ohio State University

The worst thing I saw recently was the 1990 Captain America.  Many of the 
events in the film are quite humerous.
   First, at the beginning of the film we are told that Steve's boyhood home is
in Springfield, Ohio.  Later on in the movie, the entire neighborhood is now 
suddenly to be found in California.
   Next, the Red Skull decides to kill Captain America not by just shooting 
him, but rather by tying him to a missle which is going to be launched at the 
White House.  In the final countdown, the Red Skull, instead of putting himself
at a safe distance away from the missle, is standing right there next to it so 
he can taunt CA.  CA then grabs the RS's wrist.  Unable to brake the grip, RA 
pulls out a knife and cuts off NOT CA's hand, but rather his own.  The missle 
then takes off (somehow the fact that RA is about ten feet away from it doesn't
bother him at all).
   Now we see the missle quickly approaching the White House.  Somehow, CA has 
survived the trip into outer space and is still figeting.  At the last minute, 
he gives the missle a little kick, putting a small dent in it.  As a result, 
the missle's course is changed and it misses the White House by so many yards.
   So, having missed the White House, where does our missle land?  Why, Alaska,
of course.
   It keeps going on like this, but I think you get the idea.  I really feel 
sorry for Marvel comics.  all their efforts to bring their characters to media 
have been pretty bad.

-Tycerium
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Anyone seen this movie before?
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:02:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw6CrL.96p
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

bjbartlett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (I'm not really a doctor...) writes:

>  Has anyone heard of a movie called "High Ticket to Hawaii"?  I caught the 
>last few minutes of it with the VCR timer while copying something else, and 
>it looked like a pretty f**ked up movie (i.e. blowing up an inflatable woman 
>and a skateboarder with a missile launcher!!).  Anybody else see it before?

Would this be the same as "Hard Ticket to Hawaii," that Andy Sidaris magnum
opus?


                                     --Steve Stelter
                                       sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Cult Movies??
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:25:55 GMT
Reply-To: ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Organization: Department of Chemistry, UCLA

I want to enter some 'candidates' for cult movie status.
To alleviate some confusion, I will define cult movies movies that are good,
have a following, but did not necessarily do well at the box office.  By
'good', all I mean is enjoyable. By this definition 'Blade Runner' and 
'Plan 9...'  are both 'cult movies', but 'Lambada' is not. (I guess if a 
significant group of people 'enjoyed', 'Lambada' it would be a cult film,
but for the sake of argument I'll assume it isn't...)

The Candidates are (Drum roll pleeze...)

"Millers Crossing"
A truly fine film.  On the level (perhaps) of "Goodfellas", and better than
"Godfather III" (NOT I or II); but a bust at the B.O.  Hard to describe to
the unilluminated, just see it.

"Slam Dance"
A classic 'Hapless Guy Gets Victimized' (HGGV???) film.  Plot is sparse, but
VERY stylish.  This  movie is like a piece of fine art; you should leave it
on all the time, watching it in bits and pieces constantly.

"Bad Influence"
Rob Lowe and James Spader.  Another HGGV (Do I detect a trend???).  Other
cult films in this category are: 'The Hitcher' and, well, others.


Thank you for your time,
Ben HItz
hitz@cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: kitson@geop.ubc.ca (Miranda)
Subject: Re: This is a test.
Reply-To: kitson@geop.ubc.ca
Organization: Geophysics & Astronomy, U.B.C. Vancouver, Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:43:32 GMT


Really, this is only a test.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: espensk@stud.cs.uit.no (Espen Skoglund)
Subject: Zombie Ghost Train
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:52:40 GMT

Has anyone seen 'Zombie and the ghost train'....?
Depressingly great!

 -Espen Skoglund-
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From: Gordon.S.Witter@dartmouth.edu (Gordon S. Witter)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: More "ALIENS" questions
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:03:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Oct14.060325.20599
 <etheredg-131092211352@lib102b_695525.ucs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <etheredg-131092211352@lib102b_695525.ucs.indiana.edu>
etheredg@iugate.ucs.indiana.edu (Wil Etheredge) writes:

> I am not sure as to why it didn't appear on the tape...

It's included on the Laser Disc 'Directors Cut' version.  Cool scenes
IMHO.

Has anyone who doesn't remember these scenes wondered why it takes so
long between when the marines first encouter the aliens in the
processing plant and when the aliens break into operations in the VHS
version?  I would think the aliens would be there awfully quick, since
they're supposed to be intelligent and they'd been to the operations
building before.  After seeing these scenes, and then watching the VHS
version, I really notice the gap.

-dino

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: markf@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Mark Foster)
Subject: BR DC in UK ??
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: uk
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:18:08 GMT


I am told that good 'ol Bazza Norman mentioned on Film '92 (13/10/92)
that the Directors cut of BaldeRunner would get a showing at the
forthcoming London Film Festival.

Does anyone out there have any more information on this, dates times
places and cost would be helpful.

I thank all who respond in advance with loadsa cheers mates.

Mark

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From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: viddy some more of ORANGE
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:17:58 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.


	_out of time_, where he plays HG Wells.  He goes into vintage mid-80's
california to hunt down Jack the Ripper who used his time machine to get into
the future.  Amusing.
-- 
   /I\          Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
  /(*)\         hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu                 
 /IIIII\        "Leave EVERYTHING to ME!" - Powdered Toast Man       
/IIIIIII\       Happiness is a warm gun.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: RIDLEY SCOTT on the screen
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:40:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.170920.1440@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>What has Ridley Scott done after 1982?

Here's a full list of his feature films (he's made a very large number of
television commercials as well):

   The Duellists
   Alien
   Blade Runner
   Legend
   Someone to Watch over Me
   Black Rain
   Thelma and Louise
   1492: Conquest of Paradise

"Blade Runner" exists in four versions (with subtle differences)
"Legend" exists in three versions (with major differences)

                                             -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Re: Book Review: Cult Movies, by Danny Peary
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:22:53 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1992Oct5.141633.5548@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE> k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:
>
>
>
>		REVIEW: Cult Movies, by Danny Peary
>
>
>I remember checking this book out of the public library back in 1984,
>taking it home and devouring it cover to cover in a night. Back then it
>was pretty exciting to find a serious work dedicated to analyzing the
>films that had passed briefly through my semi-conscious mind during
>midnight showings at the local revival house. 

Thanks for the reivew. I enjoyed the book too.

People could be interested to know that _Cult Movies 2_ and _Cult Movies
3_ have also been published.

Danny Peary has also written quite a few other books about film,
including one dedicated to Sci-fi and fantasy.
-- 
    Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz  or  thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz
Datamark Intl Ltd | 
 Technical Writer | I don't need a disclaimer, I live in a sane society.
From: Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: More BR stuff (Ha!, bet you dont have -BR- in your kill file!)
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:12:15 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. & Mech. Eng.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6FA47C4B501401C@rswift.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 8 Oct 92 02:17:08 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

Hi all. I was just sitting here, pondering life and all that stuff, and
an interesting thought came to mind. Since this group has a bunch of
people genuinely interested in Blade Runner and the themes associated
with the film, have any of you contrasted the messages of Blade Runner to
the themes present in Huxleys book -Brave New World-? 
	For those of you not familiar, in Brave New World the entire society is
composed of genetically engineered people (except for remote regions of
the planet to unprofitable to populate). Your definition of genetic
engineering may vary, but in any case the citizens were born without
parents. They were born as children, and then faced a life of mental
conditioning until their eventual demise. In many ways, I feel that our
society is more and more creeping up on Huxleys vision of the future. 

A minor point on Blade Runner; this may have been covered before in the
newsgroup. There is an abundance of imagery apparent dealing with -eyes-.
Close-ups, dialog, the trip to the eye-shop, scenes where the replicants
eyes are reflecting light, the fact that Tyrell is legally blind (THICK
glasses), and Roy gouges Tyrells eyes out. There are some important
messages being conveyed. The eyes are the window to the soul (something
like that), so perhaps a reflection on humanity is being made. I KNOW
that you folks have some ideas on this. Lets have them!

Rich

______________________________________________________
Rich Swift    
                      Hessert Center for Aerospace Research
                              University of Notre Dame
______________________________________________________
From: emartine@digi.lonestar.org (Edgar Martinez Martinez)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:10:38 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX


 One of the best scares that I've ever gotten was in a movie that I saw back
when I lived in Mexico. It was called "El Mensajero del Diablo" (The Devil's
Messenger), I'm sure that's not the original title. The scariest scene in my
opinion was when the guy takes this baseball(?) that he keeps finding all over
the house, and throws it to a huge river from a bridge over it. He drives home
and when he opens the door, the ball comes bouncing down the stairs. It was one
of the best adrenaline(?) rushes I've ever gotten, scared the hell out of me.
It wasn't one of those BOO! scares that take you by surprise, it was just
shocking during the whole scene!

 Anybody remember the name of the movie? Supposedly, an invalid kid had been
drowned in his tub, and his ghost was still haunting the house. Anybody
remember the title of it?



Edgar Martinez                UTArlington Co-op program (Great!)
emartine@digi.lonestar.org    DSC Communications Corp.  Plano, TX
b645zju@utarlg.uta.edu        University of Texas at Arlington
"My bathroom fan goes out straight into my living room"
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: alt.bladerunner
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:07:37 GMT

In article <47@abcom.ATT.COM> jpg@abcom.ATT.COM (John P. Gorga) writes:
>Well... isn't that special.  Since you are such a genius maybe you should have
>realized that not everyone's newsreader has a kill feature.

Ok folks. John's right. Furthermore, I get my news over a 300 baud connection,
so lets create a group called alt.movies.too-long-for-michael-posts. All posts
over 20 lines have to go there. :-)

If you don't have a kill feature, just ignore the posts you arn't interested 
in. Is that really that difficult?

Look, maybe I was a little rough on the person who started this thread, but 
the way I see it, this net belongs to everyone. If something is going on that
bothers you, modify your behavior/expectations to fit the rest of the world.
The net is never going to be all things to all people, so try to adapt. You
aren't going to be able to turn the net into exactly what you want, because
everyone wants something different.

Michael

-- 
Michael Kaufman | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on
 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:42:00 EDT
From: <MAB195@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Pull My Daisy

How many people saw Pull My Daisy and think it ranks up there with the all time
cult movies, what an hilarious portrayal of beat life put together in a format
no one knew would work, So what do you think?
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Re: RIDLEY SCOTT on the screen
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 09:41:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.054009.5095@wam.umd.edu> dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:
>"Legend" exists in three versions (with major differences)

What's the third version? 
- 1. European cut, longer, music by Goldmsith
- 2. US-cut, shorter, music by Tangerine Dream
- 3. ?
								M.H.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: A new topic: bad kung-fu films
Keywords: Ninja, inflatable, Artemis, afterburn, kumquat, indifference
Organization: Clarkson University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:05:20 GMT

I've seen a couple of stupid !  But then again I've seen many good ones
and also many funny ones!  There is alot of them out there!  I think one of the stupidest I saw was Renegade Ninjas.  There wasn't even much fighting, it 
seemed more like a documentary of Samurais.  By stupid I mean it wasn't 
interesting at all.  

For some good ones though, there's alot to choose from.  I have always liked
Shaolin type movies though there are others:  Heroes of the Ming Dynasty, 
Leg Fighters:  The Invincible Kung Fu, Master Killer, Ninja in the Deadly
Trap, Ninja Massacre, Ninja vs Shaolin Warriors, Revenge of the Dragon, 
Shaolin Death Squad, Shaolin Devil and Angel, Shaolin Executioner, Shaolin
Kung Fu Mystagogue (all time favorite), Shaolin Red Masters, Shaolin Temple
against Lama, Shaolin Traitor, Snake and Crane art of Shaolin, etc...  There
are others, but these are definately at the top..

There's also another stupid one called Fantasy Force Mission with Jackie
Chan, but I don't really know if this movie qualified as a kung fu movie.
For a good funny one, there's one called Death Mask of the Ninja (that I
forgot to put above).  It is really funny and good.  The have a cast of
what we can call the three stooges of the martial arts world.  They are called 
the Three Holy Fools and they are hilarious!!!
	I have a large list of movies that I made.  They definately are
hard to find so I made a list to keep track of them.  If anybody would like it 
let me know (it's in postscript).
		Mystic
(alex.soto@analog.com)

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:00:35 GMT

In article <6972@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk> ian@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk (Speed Freak) writes:
>APLer@cup.portal.com (Roland Walter Besserer) writes:
>
>>>And if you like Malcom McDowell, you ought to see Caligula.  Those two are
>>>the only two decent he has hade.  To my knowledge. 
>
>I went to see this and it was crap!  About 25% of the audience walked out
>during the film!
>
>Ian.
>
>-- 
>Ian Crocker 					ian@cyborg.bt.co.uk

I concur. I rented the "Directors Cut" or something, and almost stopped
watching it. This Bob Guccione epic, directed by Tinto Brass, shows that money
can buy almost anything. Besides the embarassing Malcolm Macdowell performance,
every single actor in this thing is atrocious! 
The semi-porn equivalent of a Gore film! And a boring one at that!
The much-touted anal/fist scene was a joke!


Pretty poor. But I wouldn't censor it...

					--Judex--
From: APLer@cup.portal.com (Roland Walter Besserer)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Darkman
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:47:23 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


>I just saw Darkman. I thought it was great, a friend of mine hated it and
>told me to pst on the subject here to see what you think of it. And so I did.
>The thread is yours.
 
Pretty much one of the worst movies I've seen. Got close to walking out.
Absolutely ludicrous plot, substandard F/X and awfull acting. In essence
- it sucked - not even worth a $1.50 rental 

roland
From: dsimon@informix.com (Don Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The worst movie of all tim
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:38:52 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <P3795@MK.maus.de> Thorsten_Kitz@mk.maus.de (Thorsten Kitz) writes:
>Hey there,
>
>in my opinion, the absolut worst movie ever seen is "Top Gun". In Germany it
>was rated as PG-12 (the same as PG-13, but from 12 years on) and it is
>very violently, even more than a stupid horror film. If I can remember the
>film correct (I am not sure, cause I was very shocked when I have seen it),
>first they shoot some Russians into the nirwana, make a big party, than
>someone from the Americans was shot and the Russians were the "Bad, bad boys".
>I think, movies like this one, are very dangerous for children, because, they
>get a wrong view of the real world. I would rate the film R, if I would have
>the decisions, even better, put the movie into the rubbish container.
>
>Bye for now,
>
>Thorsten.


Hi Thorsten

	Did you see a different top gun that I because my rememberance of
the movie which I have on video differs a little from yours
As I recall the movie started out with some American pilots flying a
patrol when they happen upon some russians
They fly around with the russians for a while till a russian gets a
missle lock on courgar  The russians go home and cougar freaks out and
loses it and nearly wrecks his plane landing it and then Goose and
Maverick get to go to top gun where they play around all day
The first person to actually die in the movie is goose when they have
the training accident and crash the plane (though he was dead right
after the ejector sent his head thru the canopy)
At the end of the movie the Americans and Russians have a dog fight in
which the russians get shot up
I think you may be thinking of one of the Iron Eagle movies that came
out around the same time

(Please excuse my lack of punctuation but my editor doesnt like me)

don simon
From: rda813m@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (John Syer)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Bad Taste?
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:57:03 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus

"Noah J. Adams" <na0r+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>	I guess that this movie (Bad Taste) qualifies as a cult film.  It is
>one of my absolute favorites of all time.  Could anyone tell me of any
>other films by this director.  I believe his name was Peter Jackson, and
>if you watch the credits, he also played the part of Robert(My Favorite
>character other than maybe Derrick).  Any information or insights would
>be appreciated.

>	"Suck my spinning steel shithead"
>		-Noah

	Peter Jackson has also directed a film called "Meet the Feables".
It was billed as something like :
	The muppets with sex, and drugs.

	Peter is a New Zealander with a pretty twisted imagination, but he
produces movies like gems!  If you liked "Bad taste" then you'll love
"Meet the Feables".

-- Brave and Bold Sir John the Valiant.
-- 
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