HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Attacks on muslims help moderates?? (Re: Beyond The Babri Masjid
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:28:08 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu



From the "White man came, took everything" files, of the Pakistan Affairs Desk
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(Naeem Mohaiemen) writes:
>
>Similarly, after the gulf war, support for more extremist islamic movements
>skyrocketed in Algeria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Hosni Mubarak's moderate
>leadership had its legitimacy weakened because of the west's attacks on
>Iraqis. The muslims in the middle east, feeling under attack by the west,
>rallied to the side of fundamentalist groups that called for attacks on the
>"common enemy".

Once again I raise my voice against this wholesale sowollowing of Western
political myths.  The barbarians at the helm in Algeria, Egypt, and Saudi
Arabia are anything but "moderate" and "legitimate".  

It is abusud to suggest that the House of Saud (about which we know a lot)
is moderate and legitimate compared to its opposition (about which we know
very little).  This "moderate/fundamentalist/extremist" framework is
useful only as a propoganda tool for the hegemonist adgenda of this 
bogus New World Order, as it has no basis in rationality.  And even there
it has proved to be of questionable use.  If you have followed the rise
of Hamas you would remember the time when it was treated with "salutary
neglect" by the Israilies, because they were precieved as Saudi style
"moderates" who could break the back of the PLO extremists.

Ma'asalam,

j n a
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: joydeep@iti.gov.sg (Joydeep Bose)
Subject: Re: Baby's Name
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:53:39 GMT

Boy or Girl?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: In search of exciting JAIN GUYS!!!
Date: 22 Jan 1993 23:10:06 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Keywords: JAIN GUYS

Neha Doshi writes:
>
>My name is Neha Doshi. I am looking for a nice guy leading to a permanent
>relationship. I am a 2nd year medical student at Robert Wood Johnson Medical 
>School in New Brunswick, NJ, USA. I was born in the US and my parents are from
>Kapadwunj, Gujurat. My computer-nerd friends put me up to this so here goes...
>
>	My only stipulations are:
>
>	1) Between the ages of 23 - 26
>	2) Vegetarian Jains ONLY!
>	3) Preferably Gujrathi
>	4) Likes to have fun.
>	5) Preferably East Coast.
>	6) Established professional, or in professional school.
>	7) Someone intellectually and culturally driven.
>	8) Free thinking and independent.



	Hey Dighe, now this is MOST DEFINITELY a sneaky trick by the matrons
	to show down the desi males. I mean, look at 7 and 8. And but for these
	two, I would have linked 2 with Rajat Jain's ominous :) return to
	the net. Gwack! That guy has sensed this matrimonial before it was
	posted.... :)

	FFT
From: akash@brahms.udel.edu (Akash Sharma)
Subject: Re: SHER
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:18:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.233241.10708@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> msrinath@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Mirajkar Srinath) writes:
>
>        WOAH AAYA HAMARI KABRA PER, DEYA BUJHA KE CHAL DIYA
>
>        DEYA ME JO TEEL THA, SEER PE LAKA KE CHAL DIYA !!
>
>  Best Wishes
>  -- Srinath
	Very poetic!!  Kind of like:
	DOOR SE DEKHA, LADKI BAAL SUKHAA RAHI THI
	PAAS JAA KAR DEKHA, GAI POONCHH HILA RAHI THI!
Akash.
akash@ravel.udel.edu



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dea@jec315.its.rpi.edu (Anirban De)
Subject: Four Terrorists Arrested While Planning Bombs for R'day
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:11:50 GMT


Source: BBC World Service
Time: 10am & 11am (EST), January 24,1993
Country: India


***

Police in Delhi arrested four terrorists

PM John Major in India

***

The police in Delhi have arrested four sikh terrorists
who were planning to disrupt the Republic Day parade.
The militants were reportedly in possession of bombs 
capable of blowing up buildings. They had four of these
with corresponding remote-controlled devices and planned
to simultaneously blow up government buildings on the 
Republic Day.

Security has also been tightened in Indian controlled
Kashmir where Muslim separatists have called for a day
of protest.



The British Prime MInisiter Mr.John Major's current visit
to India is viewed as step to enhance business relations 
with India. The Prime MInister is accompanied by British
business leaders who consider it important to be a part
of change in India's economic situation. Prime Minister
Major thinks that an improvement in British exports to
India will help in improving his country's current
economic health. He spent the Sunday at the residence
of the British High Commissioner in New Delhi preparing
papers for his meetings with the Indian ministers and
officials.

It is reported that on this tour Mr. Major will not be asking
India to sign the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty nor
will he be  pressing for British mediation in Kashmir. The
British government will only be asking for India's
co-operation in lowering the tension in the region.


Anirban De
dea@rpi.edu



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (YOSSARIN ARAM)
Subject: Re: SAWNET SNEAKERS
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:36:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.165230.17901@research.nj.nec.com> rsd@ccrl.nj.nec.com (Rajiv Dighe) writes:
>
>
>
>In light of the continued interest in SAWNET's activities
>from members of sci and the onslaught of sneaky posts
>and the resulting huffing, puffing and indignant denials
>from the SAWNET board, I would like to propose the formation
>of a new mailing list called:
>
>	South Asian Men Ogling SAWNET's Activities
>
>also known as  SAMOSA..
>
>Our Slogan will be "SAMOSA: WE LOVE TO BE FRIED"
>
>Our charter will be to Create Hurtful Utterly Trashy News Items Enraging
>SAWNET yaani ke CHUTNIES...
>
>For after all what is a SAMOSA without CHUTNIE ?
>
>Our Anthem:
>
>		Variety being the spice of life
>		And Spice is the plural of wife
>		Let us go and enrage the patnies
>		go forth and make some CHUTNIES
>		For who cares about Spinoza or Formosa
>		All we want is our SAMOSA
>
>STATUTORY WARNING: Recipes for the CHUTNIE and secret SAMOSA information
>will not be distributed to the general public esp. members of SAWNET.
>If we see "SNEAKY POSTS FROM SAMOSA" on the public net,
>the punishment to the mole (mole SAMOSA ? No, thanks, I already ate..)
>will be swift and may result in immediate dismemberment and revoking
>their source license. 
>

 Neat and serves those feminists right ,but in line three of your
 poem you write of enraging panties ....well it is not possible
 as the feminists following the tradition of Germaine Greer have
 burnt what they call The Mad Woman's Underclothing.
 \
 bye
 gopa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: an5584@anon.penet.fi (Salman Rushdie)
Subject: *****WHAT IS THERE IN NAME????*****
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:08:03 GMT




Ouch!! Oops!!


What is there in name?

Satan or God?

Both are equally bad. Aren't they?

Wow!!


Love and Peace-
Rushdie
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From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Clashes in Bombay/Delhi - 4 Dead
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:06:06 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: Hindu Muslim Clashes


Looks like the retaliation is beginning. It WAS predicted, so
there's no surprise there. It WILL be surprising if the police/army
act to stop it quickly.

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vinita@redbird.pa.dec.com (Vinita Bhatia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Survey of international students
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:04:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: redbird.9301251904.AA00954
X-Received: by usenet.pa.dec.com; id AA03785; Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:01:45 -0800
X-Received: by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com; id AA20530; Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:01:36 -0800
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	id AA00954; Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:04:58 CST
X-To: soc.culture.indian.usenet
X-Content-Type: text
X-Content-Length: 572

This is a request for help in a survey of facilities provided to internation
students on different campuses.  I need the information for a class project.

I will appreciate you sharing your experiences of the International Students
Offices in your university with me.  Please let me know of any program that
you thought was useful to you when you joined the school.  Also, if you felt
there was something for which you really needed help and was not addressed
before or after you joined the school.

Thanks for your help.

Vinita
-- 
Vinita Bhatia
vinita@redbird.umsl.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prastogi@netcom.com (Sentient)
Subject: SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:52:47 GMT


This is a test!






-- 
Never offend people with style when you can offend them with
substance.
		-- Sam Brown, "The Washington Post", January 26, 1977
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From: sanjay_j1@verifone.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Address of Harvard/Stanford Univ.
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:08:03 -1000
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI

Hello

I am looking EMail addresses of Harvard and Stanford University, especially of
Registrar Offices. Any help is welcomed.

Thanks in advance

Sanjay



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ndasmith@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Noah Smith)
Subject: NEWS ABOUT AIDS  IN INDIA?
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:49:37 GMT

I'm a member of the group called Model United Nations, and at a mock U.N.
conference in Princeton, NJ, USA next month, I'll be on the Science and
Technology committee.  One of our main subtopics at the conference will be
AIDS, so I was wondering if there was anyone out there who could let me
know about how the disease is dealt with in India, and what steps are being
taken by governmental and medical agencies to halt AIDS' spread.  Thanks!

P.S.  I also posted similar questions about information on natural
disasters and the transfer of technology to developing nations.  Any help
there would also be very much appreciated.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bala@research.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Subject: Hindu-Muslim Clashes in Bombay/Delhi - 4 Dead
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:17:54 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Keywords: Hindu Muslim Clashes

apnews reports:
 NEW DELHI, India (AP) _ Mobs damaged a mosque and a Hindu temple
in the capital today and burned dozens of shops in a new outburst
of ethnic violence. Two people were killed.
	   Thousands of police took over the streets of the Old Delhi area
and imposed a curfew.
	   At least two others died in Bombay when a mob of Muslims
attacked Hindu worshippers in the streets Tuesday night, hours
before British Prime Minister John Major was to visit the city.
	   Ethnic violence across India has killed more than 1,800 people
since Hindu extremists destroyed an ancient mosque in the northern
town of Ayodhya on Dec. 6.
	   Most of the fatal clashes were in December, but Bombay exploded
in a new round of riots on Jan. 6, leaving more than 800 people
dead. The city, India's largest, began to return to normal on Jan.
18.
	   Old Delhi is one of the few areas in the capital where Muslims
form a majority. The violence today started after a Muslim cleric
reopened his one-room mosque on a Hindu-dominated street of homes
and stores, and discovered that it had been raided and damaged, its
Koran torn and its chandeliers broken.
	   Groups of Muslim men took to the streets and began attacking
Hindu shops. They broke open the metal gates of a small Hindu
temple and set fire to a statue of a god.
	   Hindus and Muslims then began throwing stones at each other. A
young Hindu man was stabbed to death, and a Muslim man was fatally
shot by police, who quickly stopped the riot, Press Trust of India
said.
	   Five people were injured. Thousands of steel-helmeted police
patrolled the narrow streets of the crowded business center while
fire trucks put out dozens of blazes, news agencies reported.
	   In Bombay, Muslim men hurled stones, soda bottles and light
bulbs filled with acid at Hindus returning home after praying in
the streets of the Malad neighborhood, according to Press Trust of
India. The attackers also set fire to some homes. Seven people were
reported injured.
	   Many Hindus in Bombay resent the fact that the city allows its
minority Muslim population to pray outside mosques on Fridays, and
they are responding by praying in the streets themselves.
	   Major, who arrived in Bombay today and was scheduled to address
Indian businessmen at a banquet, is on a six-day visit seeking to
boost trade with India.
	   Major has said the recent sectarian violence will not discourage
British investment. His visit was seen as a sign of confidence in
India's ability to overcome its domestic problems.
	   Millions of dollars of property was lost in the recent violence
in Bombay, India's financial capital.
From: c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Mahesh Bagade)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: "Hyderabadi" database project.
Date: 21 Jan 1993 14:41:42 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello folks,

I would like to thank the following participants for getting together and
starting this ambitious project which will benefit all of us hyderabadis.

  Ashish Mathur = ashish@cs.umbc.edu
  Mahesh Bagade = c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (ofcourse myself)
         Nagraj = kone0004@student.tc.umn.edu
 Praveen Nukala = scorpion@cs.uh.edu
  Prashant Ganu = pganu@praga.rasna.com
Manjula Katarpu = mkatarpu@dcsuwf.dcsnod.uwf.edu


Now guys, this was limited only to hyderabadis because of the enormity of
the project. So, no flames please. Other desis can perhaps follow the same 
approach.

We as a team request hyderbadis to please respond to the article on 
"Hyderabadi" database.

Once again thanks for you co-operation and time.....

Mahesh
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: zxs6373@usl.edu (Siddiqui Zafar)
Subject: Re: Why Muslin persecution is rempant these days? 
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:24:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.194057.3406@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> f0g1@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Prasad Gokhale) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.113728.46776@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>In article <1993Jan26.151418.9486@bnr.ca>, uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2) writes:
>>
>>   I agree with your personal opinion, anyways. In this aspect Soviet Marxism
>>   and Islam have attained the same objectives. To liberate the "downtrodden"
>>   by encouraging them to resort to violent means and inculcating people to
>
>Both are political ideologies masquerading as religions...Both believe that
>everything on the face of the earth belongs to them... both have supressed
>resistance through terror, torture, tyranny, treason and treachery...
>
>One is already on the verge ob being extinct...the other will shortly follow..

Recent studies show that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
The rate at which non-muslims are accepting Islam has laid to rest the myth
that Islam has spread by the sword.

Zafar
>
>Prasad.
>
From: arunki@uirvld.csl.uiuc.edu (Arun Krishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Recipes for your entertainment (a new mailing list)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 01:33:34 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: uirvld.csl.uiuc.edu

susanc@rice.edu (susan chacko) writes:


>In light of the newfound interest in mailing lists on this 
>newsgroup, it is clear that newsgroups are passe, and mailing
>lists are chic. Since net.women are invariably trendy, I 
>propose the formation of a new mailing list, to be called

>South Asian Male-Baiting And Rabblerousing, Inc.
>aka. SAMBAR.

>This association will be primarily for women, of course, since
>it is well known that this feature causes increased testosterone
>levels among the target population, which in turn lead to 
>aggravation, rage, and tantrums. SAMBAR does not want to increase
>medical complaints among the SAM population, but a few apoplectic
>splutterings are always enjoyable.

>Selected males who have a proven interest in male-baiting may 
>be included. 

[Funny Stuff deleted]

Dont SAMBAR and RASAM go hand in hand?

Radical Anti-Social Activist Matrons.  :-)

Arun
From: raghu@clipper.ingr.com (Raghu Venkateshwaran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Tax Question, 1099 & W2, switching from Indian to US firm.
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:49:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intergraph Advanced Processor Division - Palo Alto, CA

Hi,

Any tax experts out there ?  I guess, there are quite a lot of people

who have gone through this.

I received per-diem allowance for first half of 1992 when I was working with an

Indian company. Now I am on regular pay roll with a U.S. firm since Sept 1992.

I would be getting W-2 form from my current employer, and 1099 from the Indian

company. My question is which form to use to file the tax ? (1040/1040NR/1040A)

I had filed 1040NR for 1991. Is this 1099 income taxable ?

Any schedules to be filled along with this ? (Schedule A/C/.. ?)

Thanks a lot, I appreciate your time and help.


Raghu

Please respond by e-mail to : raghu@clipper.ingr.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 17:52:34 GMT

(Samit Banerjee) writes:

>Well this may be your lucky week, although you shouldn't allow that to 
>let you take my benevolence for granted. Also dont embark on any ambitious
>plans to test it's farthest limits like Nimmala did.

Where would we poor humble peasants be without your indulgence.  Even
the Good Lord himself could not be more charitable.  So please let your
good humour shine at least till the end of the week.

>Aha and you think that SCI as a think tank that dictates GOI policy in
>Kashmir and how the rest of India reacts should not be used in this 
>manner. 

Do I think that?  Did I ever say I think that?  Such feats of intelligence
are beyond me.

>So far so good. A bit far fetched perhaps, but that's probably
>your style. 

The flame-thrower at your fingertips itching to get off the leash.

>870 million
>Indians (out of an estimated 880 million population) cannot own land in 
>Kashmir and 85 % (or about 740 million Hindus) stand deprived of their
>fundamental constitutional right to do so. What is then wrong in saying
>that Hindus (except for the remaining 3 million) cannot own land in 
>Kashmir? 

What is wrong is that the constitution is an exact statement of what
is wrong, and what is not.  It is not, and can not be, based on
statistics.  Again to repeat an earlier argument, by your reasoning
it would be okay to say that India is a Hindu country.  As you know,
better than me ofcourse, that is not true.  India is a secular country.

>If somebody says the same thing for Muslims/Sikhs/Christians, 
>I am ready to accept it. Would you have complained still?

I am not sure what you mean.  If you mean, would I agree that non-K
m/s/c can not own property in K.  Yes I would.  But I don't think
I would complain.  Simply because I don't want K to turn into another 
Assam.  But I digress.

>I must still point out
>that statistically speaking, you are arguing a lost case.

The Law does not speak statistically.

>Maybe so, but there was no misrepresentation. The same can be said for
>any other religion and would still be true. It seems that you are bent
>on chasing paper tigers and resurrecting imaginary ghosts.

Excuse me.  Reading the reports on sci, of people returning from Bombay 
in the past few days, I would hardly call them imaginary ghosts.  And
if you are planning to be in Bombay anytime soon, I would not call the
Shiv Sena paper tigers.

>Again, a matter of perception. Education itself can never be wrong. 

No?  What would you call Mao's Cultural Revolution.  But then I digress
again.

>Not if you quote me out of context and make thinly veiled attempts at
>ascribing incorrect political identities.

Again, irrelevant in either case.

Sanjoy Ghosh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: susanc@rice.edu (susan chacko)
Subject: Recipes for your entertainment (a new mailing list)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:33:56 GMT


In light of the newfound interest in mailing lists on this 
newsgroup, it is clear that newsgroups are passe, and mailing
lists are chic. Since net.women are invariably trendy, I 
propose the formation of a new mailing list, to be called

South Asian Male-Baiting And Rabblerousing, Inc.

aka. SAMBAR.

This association will be primarily for women, of course, since
it is well known that this feature causes increased testosterone
levels among the target population, which in turn lead to 
aggravation, rage, and tantrums. SAMBAR does not want to increase
medical complaints among the SAM population, but a few apoplectic
splutterings are always enjoyable.

Selected males who have a proven interest in male-baiting may 
be included. 

The activities of SAMBAR will be kept shrouded in deepest
secrecy, since this aspect also energizes those who suspect
that great things are going on without them. In actual fact,
there will be very little need to do anything, since the mere
existence of SAMBAR and an occasional mention on a newsgroup
is enough to keep its aims fulfilled.

The group will have two minor aims, to be pursued concurrently
with the SAMBAR:
Irritating Desi Lame-brained Individuals (IDLI)
Debunking Objectionable SAM Assertions (DOSA)

Occasionally a spot of Gloating over the Half-baked Elaborate
Efforts of SAMOSAS will take place, but as we all know, GHEE
can be fattening, and will be partaken of only in small 
quantities. 

To start your SAMBAR membership off right, please send your
subscription requests, change-of-address and complaints about 
delivery to the MD or CEO of SAMOSA, who have been known to
complain about the emptiness of their mailboxes.
--
Mail is forwarded to susanc@helix.nih.gov
Bldg 2, Rm 316, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, Md.