HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: antelope@ecst.csuchico.edu (Titanium Dioxide (where can I get some?))
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Sample Identification & Russians
Date: 10 Nov 1992 03:33:01 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

So where does the voice that's on PWEI's "Bulletproof" come from?  (The
one that says "No half measures from here on in . . . "  I've only
heard the Sherwood remix, so I don't know if it's on the album mix.)  It
sounds like the same one which appears on Gary Clail's /End of the
Century Party/ (which probably is no coincidence).
 
By the way, what's with the industrial inclination to sample Russian
composers?  Just a couple:
 
Greater Than One completely steals the intro from "The Montagues and the
Capulets" (Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet suite) on it's "Metal".
 
FM Einheit samples The Rite of Spring on /Stein/
 
The Young Gods swipe the string motif from Shostakovich's 5th Symphony
for "La fille de la Mort".
 
Test Dept steals Prokofiev's "Death of Tybalt" (again, Romeo and Juliet)
to use as the music for "Empire" -- by the way, does "Empire" appear on
a studio album, too?  (it's on the live /Proven in Action/ CD)


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: tahl@tfs.com (Tahl Milburn)
Subject: Re: who is william s. burroughs
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:14:16 GMT

In article <1dmlgqINNsf7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Edward Hilker) writes:
>
>>He wrote 'The Naked Lunch'.  Go to your local video store and rent it...
>>its well worth it.
>
>Even better, go to your local library and check it out. It's even more
>worth it.
>
>Doing my part for the cause of literacy,
>C.
>

Better yet read a bio on him.  Father of the Beat poets.  Seed of the Beatniks.
Etc.  You can see him in Drugstore Cowboy + Laurie Anderson's Home of the
Brave (he kinda sneeks on stage).  Etc.

Read the Rumpus Room passage (~p.80 of the paperback) to your evil mother.  Be
prepared to call 9-1-1.  Tell the police you were just doing homework.


Tahl



Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Subject: Re: sp mail reflector
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:16:54 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Nov8.232313.13918@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> drsmith@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:

> does anyone know whats going on with the skinny puppy mailing list,
> smothered-hope? i haven't gotten anything in quite a while.
> thanks...
> e268
> 
	I didn't even know there was one! If this is still operating, could 
someone send me info, or post it here?


   dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu| (Orpheus / J. David Dickens)
  --------------------------------------------------------------
  | Sound/Word/Image/Thought |  Do What Thou Wilt Shall be The |
  | Creator and Engineer     |         Whole of The Law        |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Re: I'm a good lay, thanx to MINISTRY
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:22:52 GMT

jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose) writes:



>John masturbated about 30 or 40 times a day, apparently without any adverse
>physical effects. He credited his astonishing virility to his all margarine
>diet. Whackwhackwhackwhackwhack. whackity whack whack whack. Then, a
>margarine break, a breif recuperation period, and back to work it was.
>Whack. Whack. Whack. Soon, he found himself hired as a "stunt prick" on the
>set of porno films with easily tired studs. His face was rather hideous,
>and as such he was never cast as an actual star, but body doubling seemed
>to suit him fine. Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck. Fuckity fuck fuck fuck. Then,
>back to the margarine. Life is a fortuitous piece of shit. read Boredom.
>    			love me
>			love me
>			love me
>			love me

The story of my life.


|-|()()|<   >>>braca2@csypr1.cs.adfa.oz.au<<<    If you've got it shake it
Think with your head, vote with your feet;  Plan Globally, attack locally
From:  (CaRoLyN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Skinny Puppy Mailing List Address
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:33:41 GMT
Reply-To: cshin@feds47.prime.com



For those who have been asking...  This is what I found:

	 Skinny Puppy
	   smothered-hope-request@ecst.csuchico.edu
	   Mngr: lockjaw@ecst.csuchico.edu


CaRoLyN
From: jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Theory about rec.mus.ind
Date: 9 Nov 1992 17:33:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu



i'll keep this short.(maybe not that short)
After reading responses to such posts as "letter to Bill Clinton", "NIN"
and other similiar ones I have come to a conclusion.  You may already know
this, but I am gonna say this anyway.

	There are a few  kinds of people on his board. The Knowing, the think they
know, and the totally clueless.
There are people on this board who say (maybe not a direct  quote) "Nitzer
Ebb is  brilliant. they are minimalist"....."Trent Reznors lyrics are
brilliant".... (i'm not attacking anyone personally here, these are just
examples of things people have said)  I'd put these type of people into the
"Think they know" category.
	There are people on this  board who ask questions like "what is the best
Nine inch nails album?" or "Are there any other bands like Front 242?" I
put these people in the "Clueless" category. There is no reason though that
these  people may not move  up in class  eventually. I dont mean any harm
by using the word clueless. (i'm just referring to their knowledge of
"industrial" music)
	Then there are people who post things about what Tibet 93 is going
to do next week or if anyone has the first release from Throbbing Gristle
for sale. They know things like.. the term industrial was originally meant
for bands like Throbbing Gristle(scince they started  the "Industrial
Records" record label), Current 93, Nocturnal Emissions and so forth.      
These  people are  in the "Knowing" category.

You see I started off in the totally clueless  category. I thought Depeche
Mode was cool.... Then i progressed (or digressed). I bought "Pretty hate
Machine" and other "cool" ind. dance stuff. I saw  NIN 3 times, Nitzer Ebb
once, and many other  "industrial concerts".  Then i took the next step
into the knowing.  I grabbed a throbbing Gristle record and my life was
changed. I realized what wimps and pathetic  whiners people like Trent
Reznor were. I saw the light.  I realized what I may have thought was
minimalist was actually fake poppy youth angst bullshit. I mean anyone can
change. You "industrial dance" fans may one day "see the light" and sit in
your room for a couple hours blasting  "The best of NON" through your
stereo, and think "wow" this is incredibly cooler than "waaahhh my
girlfriend's a bitch.... you get what you deserve grrrrr".

Anyway, any posts under this account on rec.mus.ind are not done by Joe
Anbrose they are done by  people unknown to you... so dont flame Joe. You
can send mail to his address though. 

thanx for your time ya' bastards.

Mystery Man


--
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Sample Identification & Russians
From: antelope@ecst.csuchico.edu (Titanium Dioxide (where can I get some?))
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:51:44 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
 
 > Perhaps because it was a Russian composer who said that brilliant
 > artists steal.
 
Doubtfully.
 
 > (In a nutshell, that is. Someone out there knows the exact quote.
 > It's in a .sig...)
 
yes, .sig's are where I get most of my daily news.
 
 > Don't be so stubborn and comndemn it if you like the way it sounds.
 > It's no artistic blasphemy...
 
Don't be so stupid to assume something I never said, nor inferred.
 
Re-read my post and I think you will not find my condemnation of any
of the blasphemers I mentioned.  All of the examples I posted somehow
developed the particular sample further and made it an interesting part
of the music, except for Greater Than One, who just stuck it on to the
beginning of a song.  I find nothing wrong with what GTO did, however
their methods are less than interesting in that respect.
 
any other examples?



From: Mark.Wagner@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Mark Wagner)
Sender: FredGate@p0.f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: 2 questions
Date: 05 Nov 92  23:51:06 EST

Here are two questions (or question groups):

When is frontline assembly coming out with a video?  I've seen
mindphaser but I didn't get a chance to record it and I haven't seen any
others because I have no idea where they would be shown.  I read that
somebody on this newsgroup (or whatever) saw the "the blade" video.  If
you have seen such a video, might I ask where you saw it?

In some Nettwerk newsltter c(bar)evin key thanks all the people in the
computer networks for compiling a list of the sources of samples in SP
songs.  Is this the network to which he refers, and if so, how to I get
the list?

I vaguely recall somebody mentioning a lyric db.  Is there such I thing
and can I anonymous FTP it?

Please excuse me if these questions have already been answered a
thousand times.  I am new to USENET and frankly have no idea what is
going on (e. g., here is a question: I "tap" into USENET from a bbs with
a fidonet-usenet link, but I also have an internet account on a
different system.  Can I access USENET with this account?)

mark wagner
___
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom)
Subject: Re: Foetus and Ministry lyrics wanted !
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:52:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.132121.4824@cs.tu-berlin.de> mentor@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de  
(THE GREAT MENTOR) writes:
> I am looking for lyrics of Ministry and Foetus!
> Are there any ftp-sites they are on?
> Does anyone have lyrics and would be so kind to mail them to me?

The lyrics to almost every Foetus song come with their respective albums  
(except Deaf and Ache which I can't vouch for, and the Nail _CD_ doesn't come  
with them, but the LP does -- and, of course, not Rife or Male, but that's no  
big surprise or problem.  Butterfly Potion is an exception, I guess--that comes  
with no lyrics).  Which ones were you looking for?
--
schmotsignature.
Paul Hagstrom
(hagstrop@carleton.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: rpowers@panix.com (Richard Powers)
Subject: Re: TORONTO MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO CANCELLED
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:47:17 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <BxIyG9.98o@acsu.buffalo.edu> v092mbjm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (THE BILGERAT) writes:

>Well, I got bad news, apparently Meat beat Manifesto won't be able to get in
>the country by Nov 12 for the Toronto show, so it is cancelled and is going to
>be rescheduled.

>When? I dunno...

Odd.  Tonight I went to (what was supposed to be) a show featuring MBM,
Orbital, and Ultramarine.  Except we were told (at the door) that Meat
Beat wouldn't be playing because they couldn't get their visas!  We were
also told that our tickets would be good for December 1st and MBM would be
playing then.


-- 
rpowers@panix.com                .sig file...             ...just a .sig file.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 13 Nov 1992 11:38:24 CST
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: BIG BLACK RETURNETH!!
 <BxMzM6.Lx9@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>

In article <BxMzM6.Lx9@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>,
jlitchfi@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Jon Litchfield) says:
>
>In article <cluster.227@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> cluster@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (General Access)
>writes:
>
>just a few quick questions...

>1. how badly is it going to put me in debt?

The box was going for about $49.99 US at Reckless here in Chicago,
but that price might be a bit on the low scale as I was able to net
the CD for only $10.99.

Incidentally,the VHS casette is also available separately as well. It was
going for $24.99.

>2. is it available in stores?

Eyyyuuup. It depends on how reliable your local store is in getting special
packages,of course.

>3. if not, what record label is it on?

Touch & Go,of course. Local pride wouldn't have it on any _other_ label...  >:)

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
      ** Maniac-at-Large      * no way endorsed by the Univer- **
      ** U19807@UICVM.BITNET  * sity of Illinois at Chicago.   **
      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So there. Nyaah.               **
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: visentd@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (davide visentin)
Subject: Ministry's show
Keywords: Ministry
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:32:01 GMT
Summary: Ministry's show

Hi, I'm going to see the Ministry's show in Milano about two hours.
Tomorrow i will speak about it.
Dave.
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dme@cs.nott.ac.uk (David M Ellam)
Subject: Re: who is william s. burroughs
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:22:37 GMT

Chuck Turner writes:
> kundert@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (nobody ) writes:
>>sorry for be so ignorant, but who is william s. burroughs?
>>heard al deadicate just one fix to him at lollapalooza and
>>just saw "special thanks to William S. Burroughs" at the 
>>end of the director's cut blade runner.
>>the name sounds familiar, but i can't place it.
>>posting or mailing would be great.
>
>He wrote 'The Naked Lunch'.  Go to your local video store and rent it...
>its well worth it.
>
>					- Chuck 

Well, he wrote the _book_. The film is loosely based on the book, in that it
depicts Burroughs writing it. Cronenberg directed the film.

dave
dme@cs.nott.ac.uk
From: front242@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Cerebus the Aardvark)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Negativland in Chicago
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:39:03 GMT
Organization: Malice=

brian@mik.uky.edu (Brian hoffman) writes:
> I was wondering if someone could send me directions on how to get to the club
> that Negativland is playing at in Chicago next weekend.
> Thanks!
> -Brian

You're welcome....



Since I haven't actively lived there for about 1.5 years, the only thing that I
can tell you is that the club, Lounge Ax, is on Lincoln Ave., almost directly
across the street from the WaxTrax! store...I believe there is a movie theater
across the street from it as well....


Hope that helps any....


--WE@SEL

front242@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
00GDWESSEL@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU

"Robots are stealing my luggage!!!!"
				-NEGATIVLAND("Pastor Dick")
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: (null pointer)@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (M a t t h e w N. S h a r p)
Subject: Call For Spokesman Vote
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:12:19 GMT





Mr. Karl Anthony Smelzer, I hereby call for the results of the vote
which you have allegedly been tallying.


In case you forgot, the ballot follows below.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

EVERYONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE ON THE FOLLOWING ISSUE:

DOES BALL STATE UNIVERSITY STUDENT, FRONT242@BSU-CS.BSU.EDU, SPEAK FOR
YOU IN THE ABOVE ARTICLE?

        1.  ______   YES
        2.  ______   NO

------------------------------------------------------------------------------





 

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: new Coil CD
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:14:55 GMT

Has anyone got the new mail-order-only Coil album? (Sorry, I can't remember
the title...) I got a note from them saying that it's (finally) availiable,
but I would like to hear some opinions before I order it. I haven't heard much
older Coil, but I like the Love's Secret Domain CD and The Snow EP. Is the new 
one in that vein? 

Thanx,
Vidar

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From: st1qb@Rosie.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Meat Beat in concert
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:58:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Nov7.045809.15385
Reply-To: st1qb@Rosie.UH.EDU
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Houston

In article <6NOV92171826@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu>, omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.181027.1998@utagraph.uta.edu>, cs2320ak@utagraph.uta.edu (cs2320ak) writes...
>>Ahh...finally the day comes!  Meat Beat on tour!  They'll be in Dallas
>>at Deep Ellum Live on Nov 24 w/ Orbital and Ultramarine.  It's only
>>gonna be $9.45 cuz of a radio station here called the EDGE who's freq is
>>94.5.  
>
>They'll be here in Tucson on the 22nd, although you'll have to pay
>a whopping $10 to get in...  :)

Damn...!  I'm going to the Dallas or Tucson show.  In Houston tickets
are $16 bucks....!!  Someone is pocketing some extra cash....

dave
st1qb@jetson.uh.edu
From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: The election
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:26:06 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov5.063111.29353@adobe.com>
dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?) writes:

> >all those
> >obscure European and Japanese groups, some of whom can't tour the
> >U.S. because they have been deemed of "insufficient artistic merit",
> 
> whom else besides the Legendary Pink Dots (but later were granted
> entrance) weren't allowed into the U.S.?

On one of his spoken word releases, Jello Biafra mentions the Pet Shop
Boys and New Model Army fall into this category.

I seem to remember reading recently that the McCarrem-Walters (sp?) Act
which set up the "artistic merit" provision has been repealed.  Does
anyone know for sure?

 - nathan
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: synergy@hardy.u.washington.edu (The Bob next door)
Subject: Re: Einsturzende Neubauten Tour ?
Summary: Not about the tour 
Keywords: the umlaut 
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:02:34 GMT


O.k., so this isn't exactly about the tour, but it
is about the band.  Without accents the name would
be Einstuerzende Neubauten as the umlaut replaces
an e that had at some time followed the letter with
the umlaut.



"Do you think we can escape the past, just let it go or open 
up somehow?"    Pink Industry
From: rhett@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Rhett Shain Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: IMHO
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:53:12 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

I've been reading r.m.i. for some time and finally have to post.
Some people who read and post here are trying to learn more about the 
industrial genre, both its roots and its newer manifestations.  Unfortunately,
most of these people can't ask a question or express a polite opinion without
being flamed by some prick whose only reason for reading this group is to rant
and rave about how cool they are because they listen to the good industrial
music while everyone else is whacking off to the crap.  The fact is, most of 
these assholes loved the groups before they became somewhat popular (in
particular NIN, KMFDM, etc) and just don't have enough integrity to stand by   their original opinion.  Sure, some of you are sincere, but this whiney        bullshit about how people
who still like these groups suck is really pointless.  Why don't you just talk
about the music you like, give reasonably polite opinions about what you hate,
and try to contribute something to this group other than your verbal
masturbation.
Sorry to waste bandwidth, but I don't think I'm the only one who wanted to say
this.  If I am, so what.
By the way, before the aforementioned pricks flame this post and turn it into
another one of their bitch threads, you can eat my shit.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: I should have looked harder(NIN's CD-5)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 10:14:51 GMT

nc313060@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:

>I stated in an above article that I had bought NIN's CD, "Broken", and it had
>12:08 of nothing. Well, someone wrote to me and told me that the extra tracks,
>"Suck" and "Physical (You're So)" were on tracks 98 and 99. I checked my CD,
>and I still could not find them.

>Well, as I discovered when my puppy decided to chew on the digipack, there was
>a CD-3 inside of a flap with the extra two songs. The person I had bought the
>CD from purchased it before it was released, and it came with a CD-3. I guess
>that the copies at record stores have the tracks on one disk.

>Well, I feel really dumb not knowing that was in there. At least it was
>undamaged.
Well, don't feel dumb. It's not worth it, and if you think about it, is
any of trent's musik worth feeling dumb over???
coprophiliac
scupin@rintintin.colorado.edu


>Stephani Nichelle
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Recommendations Wanted
From: Macbeth@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu (Macbeth)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:38:49 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT USA

In article <1992Nov12.070112.7019@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> 
Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:
>Subject: Recommendations Wanted
>From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
>Date: 12 Nov 92 07:01:12 GMT


>I'm a relatively new noise/industrial/musique
>concrete/ambient/<insert_label_here> music listener, and I'm looking
>for recommendations on stuff to pick up while I am in Boston this
>weekend.  Please respond directly to me if you wish, or post here.


>Stuff I have and like:
>---

>early Negativland, especially _10-8 place_ and the first, self-titled
>CD.

>_Throbbing Gristle's Greatest Hits_, especially "Hamburger Lady",
>"Subhuman", "Tiab Guls", "What a Day".

>cuts on _The Tyranny of the Beat_ by Throbbing Gristle, Monte Cazazza,
>The Hafler Trio, NON, and SPK.

>KLF's _Chill Out_ and the Orb's _Peel Sessions_.

>Percussion/guitar/screaming pseudo-industrial, such as Sharkbait and
>Pigface.


>Bands I have seen discussed, think I might like, and am specifically
>seeking recommendations for:
>---

>Hafler Trio, Throbbing Gristle, Non, SPK, Test Deptartment, Nurse With
>Wound.


>I also wouldn't mind hearing about Boston stores where I can find
>releases by these artists.  I will probably start at Newbury Comics,
>but I have no idea whether they carry much of this sort of stuff.  

>As you can probably guess I am very new to this genre.  Any advice,
>recommendations, warnings, etc. would be greatly appreciated.  

>Thank you,

> - nathan

Well, don't forget good old Laibach and Einstuerzende Neubauten. If you have 
a choice of the former, go for the early CDs first, like Laibach, Sympathy 
for the Devil, Opus Dei, etc... As for Einstuerzende, it doesn't really 
matter which one you get, they are all good.


							Greetings,

							Macbeth
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