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From: sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Sun audio file   *.au
Date: 10 Sep 1992 12:39:28 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Sep10.034949.28674@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> jcs@ixstar.ih.att.com (John "C". Sucilla) writes:
>In article <lasbg4INN8gg@skat.usc.edu> sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet) writes:
>>
>>	It didn't work.  I tried SOX'ing it and got this error message:
>>
>>sndconvert : input not a soundfile
>>
>>
>>	Oh well.
>
>I used:
>
>sox -V -t .sb -c 2 -s -r 8000 Guess.au -r 8000 -U -b -v .25 -c 1 guess.au
>
>And got something that doesn't cause my ear great deals of pain and remotely
>resembles a tune I heard somewhere....
>
>-- 
>John "C". Sucilla,  AT&T Bell Laboratories  IX 1F-210  (708) 979-0599
>jcs@ixstar.att.com



        Thanks for the suggestion.  It worked, but the results were hardly
worth the time taken.  Just so I don't seem like a total asshole I am posting
three (3) different samples in 8-bit muLaw, 8012.821 Hz, mono, NeXT snd format
which should also work for Sun SparcStations. 






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From: valerio@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Peter Valerio)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Beat the Boots
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:25:15 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ


 I was wondering if someone would be so kind as to post breif reviews of     
these discs.( beat the Boots I and II)  

Thanks in advance.
From: Jari.Makela@hut.fi (Jari M{kel{)
Subject: Zappa in Berlin in next September?
Organization: Helsinki Whisky Tasters Association
Distribution: alt
Date: 12 Sep 92 10:53:43


From Bluewings (Finnair's on board magazine):

--
Berlin
Music without cymbals

Althought it has a thoroughly ambitious musical programme, the Berlin
Festival (Berliner Festwochen), is one of the quieter occasions
arranged in the reunited city. [...blah blah blah...] Certainly an
attraction to the 'Old Guard' of the 60s will be _Frank Zappa_ with
his Yellow Shark programme on September 22-23.
--

So is Zappa really going to be present in Berlin? What is Yellow Shark
programme? Something orchestral (other events at the festival are on
the classical side)? Zappa conducting? What? TELL ME!

Jari
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From: rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts)
Subject: Re: Man From Utopia....Is it on CD ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 23:36:41 GMT

>Does anyone know if "Man From Utopia" is available on CD anywhere ?
>Someone told me that in the UK it was available as a two-fer-1 on the
>same disc as "Ship Arriving Too Late...", can anyone confirm if it's
>still available this way, or ever was ?

Yes, it was released that way, but I wouldn't hold my breath... I haven't
found it in the last 3 1/2 years, and all the placesI've tried can't get a
copy to import. I REALLY want this one... the only one w/Vai I don't have.

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From: crgoc@bard.uk.cray.com (Gary O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Man From Utopia....Is it on CD ?
Organization: Cray Research (UK) Ltd
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:04:59 GMT
X-Posted-From: bard.uk.cray.com
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Yes,
     I bought it in England a few years ago, it's still readily available, I saw it last
 week in an OUR PRICE shop.

-- 

 Gary O'Connor (crgoc@uk.cray.com) :)-8
From: zaphod@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (clifford.m.weiss)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Sun audio file   *.au
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:15:47 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Rob Sweet writes:
>	It didn't work.  I tried SOX'ing it and got this error message:

Second that, SUN soundtool played static
-Ford
From: koslowj@math.ksu.edu (Juergen Koslowski)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Man From Utopia....Is it on CD ?
Date: 6 Sep 1992 22:16:44 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: hilbert.math.ksu.edu

ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen) writes:

>Does anyone know if "Man From Utopia" is available on CD anywhere ?
>Someone told me that in the UK it was available as a two-fer-1 on the
>same disc as "Ship Arriving Too Late...", can anyone confirm if it's
>still available this way, or ever was ?


>peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"

I have the 2-fer of "Man from Utopia" together with "Ship arriving too late...",
but I've bought it a couple of years ago in Germany. I do not know whether it
is still available.

cheers,		J"urgen
-- 
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Department of Mathematics | I meet you in the next world
Kansas State University   | and don't be late!
koslowj@math.ksu.edu      |                         Jimi Hendrix (Voodoo Chile)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: alberius@Sweden.Sun.COM (Erik Alberius - Sun Sweden)
Subject: Re: Sun audio file   *.au
Reply-To: alberius@Sweden.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:03:27 GMT


Audiotool for OW3 was doing an uncompress of the file before playing it.

Hence the remarkable difference between 'cat Guess.au > /dev/audio' and
OW3 audiotool.



-Erik
From: sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Sun audio file   *.au
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:01:56 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu


	It didn't work.  I tried SOX'ing it and got this error message:

sndconvert : input not a soundfile


	Oh well.


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From: mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Paul Mather)
Subject: Re: Man From Utopia....Is it on CD ?
Organization: Centre for Applied Obfuscation.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:25:46 GMT
X-Posted-From: sol.sees.bangor.ac.uk
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Peter Thelen writes:
> Does anyone know if "Man From Utopia" is available on CD anywhere ?
> Someone told me that in the UK it was available as a two-fer-1 on the
> same disc as "Ship Arriving Too Late...", can anyone confirm if it's
> still available this way, or ever was ?

That was probably a non-Zappa-sanctioned release I'd guess.  I'd
also venture it's probably out of print now.

However, DO NOT PANIC (This is Hawkwind)!  In the "Forthcoming Wonderment"
section of a flyer from a major UK Zappa pushe... supplier is indeed
listed _The Man From Utopia_.

For those interested, also listed for forthcoming official release is:

	_The Lost Episodes_ (Studio outtakes including Capt. Beefheart,
			     Jean Luc Ponty, Sugarcane Harris and George Duke)
	_Ahead of Their Time_ (Complete show from the Royal Festival Hall 1968)
	_Lumpy Gravy Phase III_ (Music and dialogue)
	_The Man From Utopia_ (Re-release)
	_Does Humor Belong in Music?_ (Re-release)
	_London Symphony Orchestra Vol. 1_ (Re-release)
	_Playground Psychotics_ (Double CD of Fillmore East 1971 period material)

Oh, and Shankar's _Touch Me There_ is now out.  My copy dropped through my
letterbox just this morning. :-)

Cheers,

Paul.

-- 
e-mail: p.mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk

If your mailer can't reach me, I'm obviously not worth talking to.

"And I wanna tell ya, if there's anybody here who doesn't believe that
 it is FUCKING GREAT TO BE ALIVE I wish they'd go now because this show
 will bring them down so much."

        --- Frank Zappa, "Call Any Vegetable", _Just Another Band From L.A._
From: natola@coos.dartmouth.edu (Mark A. Natola)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Andy = Andy Warhol ?
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:49:20 GMT
Organization: D.M.S. Section of Neurology

In article <lafp4sINNs1b@skat.usc.edu> sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet) writes:
>From: sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet)
>Subject: Re: Andy = Andy Warhol ?
>Date: 4 Sep 92 22:35:08 GMT

>In article <1992Sep4.212442.14046@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ghatch@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Greg Hatch) writes:
>>In article <Bu2582.686@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> rtgraf@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Robert Graf) writes:
>>>Hi Everybody!
>>>
>>>Another (probably) old question:
>>>
>>>Does the song "Andy" really refer to Andy Warhol?
>>
>>No, the Andy in question is Andy DiMartino, who was Captain Beefheart's tour
>>manager for a while and thoroughly fucked the good Captain over.
>>


>        I thought it was another commentary about evangelists.  Wasn't
>Andy Devine an evangelist?  What is you're source for the DiMartino
>referenc

The only Andy Devine I can think of is thew character actor from "The 
man who shot Liberty Valance and countless 50's and 60's TV shows.

Mark
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Joes Garage
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:32:33 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <nking.716501559@unix1.tcd.ie> nking@unix1.tcd.ie (Nev's family recipe) writes:

>Can anyone hear what the words at the start of the song joes garage are?
>It sounds like something about sauce being needed

"Makes its own sauce, take one"

love that conceptual continuity.

Here's another one:

Listen very carefully during the "Nanook Rubs It" guitar solo and you can
hear a very faint voice saying "Here, Phydeaux"

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From: sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Andy = Andy Warhol ?
Date: 4 Sep 1992 15:35:08 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep4.212442.14046@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ghatch@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Greg Hatch) writes:
>In article <Bu2582.686@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> rtgraf@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Robert Graf) writes:
>>Hi Everybody!
>>
>>Another (probably) old question:
>>
>>Does the song "Andy" really refer to Andy Warhol?
>
>No, the Andy in question is Andy DiMartino, who was Captain Beefheart's tour
>manager for a while and thoroughly fucked the good Captain over.
>


	I thought it was another commentary about evangelists.  Wasn't
Andy Devine an evangelist?  What is you're source for the DiMartino
reference?

	Do you know what I'm really telling you?  Is it something that
you can understand?


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From: joshua@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Joshua Geller)
Subject: Re: PMRC info please
Organization: Institute for the Study of Ancient Science
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:47:27 GMT

fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:

>In <1992Sep3.093353.6301@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling) writes:

>>I need some updated info on issues about what the PMRC and other related censorship
>>people are doing now (especially now around election time) for a report I'm doing
>>here on music censorship. Any info would be helpful that relates to about the last
>>year of action. Help would be be appreciated.

>They are voting republican.

except, of course, for tipper gore.

lose this idea that democrats are any better than republicans on 
this score (and many others).

josh
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: jcs@ixstar.ih.att.com (John "C". Sucilla)
Subject: Re: Sun audio file   *.au
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:49:49 GMT

In article <lasbg4INN8gg@skat.usc.edu> sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet) writes:
>
>	It didn't work.  I tried SOX'ing it and got this error message:
>
>sndconvert : input not a soundfile
>
>
>	Oh well.

I used:

sox -V -t .sb -c 2 -s -r 8000 Guess.au -r 8000 -U -b -v .25 -c 1 guess.au

And got something that doesn't cause my ear great deals of pain and remotely
resembles a tune I heard somewhere....

-- 
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jcs@ixstar.att.com
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: nking@unix1.tcd.ie (Nev's family recipe)
Subject: Joes Garage
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:12:39 GMT

Can anyone hear what the words at the start of the song joes garage are?
It sounds like something about sauce being needed

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Misc trivia. Look up peccary in your dictionary. I always just thought
it was Gregory's made-up last name.

			-- Chan
From: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Man From Utopia....Is it on CD ?
Date: 6 Sep 92 17:35:32 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Does anyone know if "Man From Utopia" is available on CD anywhere ?
Someone told me that in the UK it was available as a two-fer-1 on the
same disc as "Ship Arriving Too Late...", can anyone confirm if it's
still available this way, or ever was ?


peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: daniel@moonshine.osf.org (Daniel Dardailler)
Subject: Is He really dying ?
Organization: Open Software Foundation, Motif Team
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:13:15 GMT

While I was in vacation, a friend of mine told me Frankie was going to die because of some kind of serious disease (i.e. months to live).

What's the truth, happy fans ?

(reply to the list, please).

Daniel
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: popelka@odysseus.uchicago.edu (Glenn Popelka)
Subject: Re: Sun audio file   *.au
Organization: University of Chicago  LASR
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:30:21 GMT

 It worked for me under Audiotool in OW3. Sounded like a piece
from Joe's Garage. Nice work. 'cat Guess.au > /dev/audio' sounded
like something from 'Great Train Wrecks of the Fifties', though...

glenn
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Subject: Re: Is He really dying ?
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:41:44 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Sep15.201315.17080@osf.org> daniel@moonshine.osf.org (Daniel Dardailler) writes:
>While I was in vacation, a friend of mine told me Frankie was going to die because of some kind of serious disease (i.e. months to live).
>
>What's the truth, happy fans ?
>
>(reply to the list, please).
>
>Daniel

To Daniel and all other people who have asked this question in the last week
  (about 3000 of you),

Yes, he's dead...too bad.  Please stop asking now.

To every Zappa fan who HASN'T asked this question,

;)

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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: The meaning of Xanth.
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:02:11 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

mk52+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew A Kagle) writes:

> How can you claim that the Xanth novels are just good, clean, 'childish'
> humor?  They deal with rape, murder, and all sorts of violence.  My main
> problem with the series is that it almost seems to condone rape (A Spell
> for Chameleon and Crewel Lye).  I can't see almost (I stress the almost)
> anything that would be suited for most young readers.
Well, they present such things in a very "hands off" method. Alot of
things are implied, many things are not outrightly told. Consider Prince
Dolph and Electra's summoning of the stork... If you didn't know what he
was alluding to, you'd be ABSOLUTELY lost. That's hands off. Rape is never
outrightly condoned. But, in your defense, it is never actually punished
either. It's like living in Never Never land. It has its endearing
qualities, but, as with all things else, it has its drawbacks.

                                   Jeff


...From a tiny little node called Eternal!
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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: The meaning of Xanth.
Date: 8 Sep 92 05:59:03 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim) writes:

>  I think that you're missing the point. "A Spell for Chameleon" was 
> considered one of the best fantasy novels of the year when it was introduced.
> Few people other than Xanth fanatics would consider the later Xanth books
> anywhere near as good.
Yes, the quality has declined, but it remains simple reading, and is the
sole reason I keep reading it.. :-) It has a certain nostalgia-type
effect for me... I rememebr alot of the same outlooks that some of his
characters use (parents are out to get us, etc.) Brings back some rather
fond memories, so I keep reading it to put things in perspective. A
miniscule effect, yes, but an effect nonetheless... :-)

>   Even standing on their own, I don't particularly find reading later
> Xanth interesting. The stories and characterization just seem a bit 
> "simple" to me. The stories aren't that interesting, and the humor
> can't carry the books on it's own.
That is one of its endearing qualities. You can be fried after a long day
at work, and still enjoy reading it... Some claim it to be almost
theuroputic. 

                         JMO...
                                   Jeff

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Date: Sunday, 13 Sep 1992 22:19:01 EDT
From: <IO10536@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: The Adult Conspiracy
 <uwanless.716163892@mcl> <1992Sep11.055019.9637@ils.nwu.edu>

In reply to the nitpicking :-), at least on Bink's magic,
I was always under the impression that his talent only protected
him from "serious" harm/ death by magical means.  The cleaver
with which he chopped off his finger was mundane, therefore it
had no onus of being averted.  Yes he was scratched by the wild
oats- when he returned to Xanth he was actually being eaten by
carniverous grass- the point is his talent saved him from severe
bodily harm, not all pain or discomfort.
yours,
qvintvs
From: mk52+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew A Kagle)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: The meaning of Xanth.
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:18:49 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

How can you claim that the Xanth novels are just good, clean, 'childish'
humor?  They deal with rape, murder, and all sorts of violence.  My main
problem with the series is that it almost seems to condone rape (A Spell
for Chameleon and Crewel Lye).  I can't see almost (I stress the almost)
anything that would be suited for most young readers.


         Respectfully Yours,

        -- Matt2

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From: d'mayeur@tierkey.edu
Subject: A Spell For Chameleon (movie?)
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:56:15 GMT


Hello,

	(I already asked this question in a movie group, but someone  
suggested that I direct it here.)  

	OK, a few years ago, I remember encountering an article in  
"Starlog" magazine that mentioned something about a movie adaptation of "A  
Spell For Chameleon" being produced.  I'm assuming the project has either  
be cancelled or put on hold indefinitely, as I have yet to see or hear any  
sort of follow-up about it.
	Does anyone out there know if and when this project will ever be  
carried out?  If not, what's the reason behind it.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: X049BC@tamvm1.tamu.edu
Subject: Re: The meaning of Xanth.
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:10:14 GMT

In article <5gqRqB2w165w@eternal.chi.il.us>
jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:
 
>swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim) writes:
>
>> Few people other than Xanth fanatics would consider the later Xanth books
>> anywhere near as good.
>Yes, the quality has declined, but it remains simple reading, and is the
>sole reason I keep reading it.. :-) It has a certain nostalgia-type
>effect for me... I rememebr alot of the same outlooks that some of his
>characters use (parents are out to get us, etc.) Brings back some rather
>fond memories, so I keep reading it to put things in perspective. A
>miniscule effect, yes, but an effect nonetheless... :-)
>
YES! I have always hoped I wasn't alone in this particular enjoyment
of this series! (Even two friends who are fans couldn't figure out what
all the fuss was over someones' panties! Argghhh! Hope I die before I get
THAT old!)
   There is the feel, the "logic" and (even if it hits you over the head a
trifle hard) the curiosity for the sake of curioisyt that I recall explicitly
from my childhood.
   And, if you tell your inner adult to sit down and shut up, quite fun for
an evenings' read!
   Billy