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From: charless@sco.COM (AutoPope)
Subject: Re: Self-Assembly (was Caffeine and mornings)
Organization: The Somewhat Contagious Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:06:02 GMT


In article <las6k3INNkst@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@blagg.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>Santa's little helper, (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
>>|> [drew's smug bookshelf story deleted.]
>>
>>Peeve: People who are good at this sort of thing and don't understand why
>>others can't be.
>
>Peeve: People who think skills are acquired by Tinkerbell flying by
>and pranging your head with a glittery wand.

I have a simple solution to this problem; flat-packs and a Black & Decker
powered screwdriver. Followed by a beer or two. And a good gloat at the
expense of all the half-assed DIYers who insist on doing it the hard way,
and the furniture buyers who insist on doing it the expensive way.

The thing is, not having  an infinitely deep pocket, and not having 
a garden shed, a yard, or even enough room to store a decent
wood-working kit in, I prefer to buy pre-drilled pieces because they're
more convenient than trying to get the sawdust out of the living 
room carpet, and they're cheaper than ready-made versions.

I used to use a manual screwdriver, but one particular session (three
bookcases at one go) left me with blood trickling from the palms of 
my hands, which vaguely resemble the skin of some kind of half-cooked
dinosaur at the best of times (as a result of what happens when for 
twenty years your friendly family doctor blasts away at infantile
eczema with the most powerful steroids this side of an olympic village).
So now I use power driver, and, oddly enough, manage to assemble a
reasonably sturdy, reasonably undamaged book-case in fifteen minutes
flat without turning my flat into a sawmill. Or my hands into hamburger.

Which leads me to conclude: if you don't need a skill, don't piss
around wasting energy acquiring it. And if you _do_ need a skill,
look around and see if there isn't a more convenient pre-packaged
alternative available. And if you absolutely can't master the skill
without suffering physical or mental agony, pay someone else to do it
for you. Laziness: you Know it Makes Sense.

Charlie (who needs a new book-case every three months) Stross

PostScriptPeeve: my flat is filling up with books so fast that
at the current rate of expansion I'm going to have to move out
two months before the lease expires. Or take to sleeping in a
hammock ...


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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Boss Peeve
Reply-To: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Organization: McOlsen's Lutefisk Burgers -- one served.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:13:40 GMT

jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:

>  Myself, I work best in temperatures
>below 50 degreesF.  Not only does it keep me from falling asleep at the
>terminal, but it makes my nips perk up in a most attractive manner.

	If you have many male co-workers, this might be a peeve for your
boss, who might reasonably expect them to spend time working instead of
staring at your protruding nipples.  50 degrees is generally time for me
to show up wearing gloves, my riding jacket, and sporting a longer beard.
At temps below around 60 or so my fingers get too stiff to type with at
anything over about 40wpm, and that's just too damn slow.  It's also
painful.  And no, nothing else gets stiff that that temperature, with the
notable exception of my back and left ankle.  There are ways to change
this state of affairs, mind you, but rarely are they conducted at the office
during normal business hours.

	Posting a GIF would allow unbiased confirmation of your attractiveness
claim, you know.  I'm sure there will be comments galore.  Booter so far has
refused to substantiate her own claims in this area, but second-hand
confirmation has been forthcoming.  Can anybody back up *your* claims?



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<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: HaircutPeeves (was: own private idaho)
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:58:11 GMT
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA

In article <la9oa0INN2nn@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>
>This guy had two saving graces.  First and foremost, he gave good haircut,
>and for an eminently reasonable price.  Secondly, and almost as important,
>he had a rare and valuable quality in a barber: he was quiet.  Instead of

[etc]



Peeve: Chatty hair girls. Nice to know men have the same problem
	I am 35, have two college degrees, and am not into the fashion
	and beauty biz. I don't have a lot in common with a 20 year
	old cosmetologist/beautician who spends a lot of time poring
	over magazines for the latest technique in hair care and 
	dancing at clubs for the Underaged. I don't feel like explaining
	how computers work and I am not interested in nails and hair.
	I just want to say, "cut it" or "dye it" and then sit meditatively
	while someone frobs my hair.

!Peeve: I found an unchatty hair girl. She does damn fine work too.

ER
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From: letsche@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Terry Letsche)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Brother Jed Sighting
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:02:37 GMT
Reply-To: letsche@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Terry Letsche)
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

Brother Jed has been in Iowa City the past day or so, and the Daily Iowan 
reports that despite the inclement weather yesterday, that Jed continues to
pack them in.

I have been tempted to get his autograph and his favorite bible verse, and
I thought the ideal thing to have him sign is his picture which was posted to the
net last year. I don't have it, so would someone kindly send me a copy? If it
is a gif file, I could convert it myself. I would like this by 3 or 4, if possible.

If I get a chance to talk to him, I'll pass on that Gnirut was wondering what
he's been up to.

Terry
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From: turner@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Carl Turner)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Re: Sighting Report
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:24:30 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida, Psychology Dept.

In article <1992Sep1.54556.25580@ms.uky.edu> uk09365@nx05.mik.uky.edu (robert i kesten) writes:
>In article <AKL.92Aug31182051@sage.cc.purdue.edu> akl@sage.cc.purdue.edu  
>(Rob Tillotson) writes:

>> did was rant about politics for about 10 minutes.  Then he turned it
>> over to Jim, who began with a classic tirade about the Catholic
>> church, veered into the "4 tactics and 3 lines boys use to seduce
>> virgin college girls", and ended with his "salvation at the Van Halen
>> concert" story.

>I keep hearing this about a Van Halen concert.  However, I
>am almost sure that Jed used to say it happened at a
>Burger King or some such place and/or at the behest of
>Holy Hubert Lindsay (a pre-Jed campus preacher).
>Anyone know the real story (briefly)?

The Van Halen story belongs to Bro Jim. He even hands out a flyer with 
the story on it. Bro. Jim was the understudy of Bro Jed.

Bro Jed tells the story about being saved at Burger King. He was a hippie
who lived in India, did a lot of drugs, etc. He was "saved" around 1975.
The earliest Jed sightings are from 1976. Van Halen didn't get together
until 77 or 78, so obviously Jed couldn't have been saved at a Van Halen
concert. Jed was Holy Hubert Lindsay's understudy.

Try to get a copy of Jed's book _Who Will Rise UP?" It explains a lot of
this, and it's very funny in a way.

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From: letsche@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Terry Letsche)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Brother Jed and the University of Iowa
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:20:27 GMT
Reply-To: letsche@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Terry Letsche)
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Iowa, Iowa City, IA


Well, brother Jed is up to his old tricks here in Iowa City. He must be
getting old, because he did most of his pontificating from a lawn chair.
He was also quite hoarse, so either there are more sorority girls in
town for him to shriek at, or else preaching in the rain yesterday did
him in.

He had an accomplice with him who was in training, but didn't want me
to use his name. I asked him if he thought Jed would let me get his
autograph, and told him I was a big Jed-head. He seemed very pleased to 
hear this, and told me to wait until there was a big crowd and then
interrupt. I was also instructed to ask about Jed's new book. ;)

Well, I played up my part and must say, the other students (mostly
undergraduates) were actually quite hostile towards me after I
asked for his autograph and mentioned his book.

I did scrounge up a gif file of him, and had him autograph it for me.
I might try to scan that in and post it, since the pictures of Jed
don't have his holiness's signature. I plan on going back out
to listen to him rant in a little while. If anything new comes up,
I'll keep all you Jed-heads posted.

Terry
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Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
From: uphrrmk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (DEATH)
Subject: Re: Sighting Report
Reply-To: uphrrmk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (DEATH)
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:25:04 GMT

HEY,KIDS!!!!!!!

A significant other and I have moved from the U of Minnesota, in Minneapolis, 
to Bozeman, Montana.  Imagine My suprize and delight when I heard that Brother
Jed and Sister Cindy come to MSU every spring!!!  You see, they don't come to 
Minneapolis anymore.  Maybe it was the Sister Cindy look-alike and the Sister
Cindy Claw-Like-Me contests that did it.  
  Anyway, my hands are just itching to write down new and terrible things to
heckle Brother Jed with.  For example, one thing a few friends of mine wanted 
to try was getting ahold of one of those chalk wheelbarrows that you mark
baseball fields with.(Or a reasonable facsimile;) and right in the middle of a
harangue, quickly draw a pentacle around him, whip out several books on
exorcism, Wicca, and other scary things that Brother Jed would hate, and start
chanting various exorcisms...Then of course, there's the Elvis shrine I want to
make this spring, with the Elvis supplicants dressed in white bell-bottoms, and
sideburns.  Lots of sideburns.  
  Lessee... I'm looking for a volunteer to sit on a cushion in a saffron robe
and make wise statements and Taoist parables interspersed with the harangue.
I could also start up with the Campus Crusade for Cthuhlu, complete with a
cardboard-box litter hoisted by zombie slaves dressed in crossing guard
uniforms, chanting the Supercalifrajalisticexpialidocious Cthuhlu song.
I could get dressed in my favorite Morrigan costume, complete with raven mask, 
black lipstick, and high heels (OOOH< I'm such a harridan!) and start a piece 
of spontaneous performance art, occasionally goosing him, yodeling, and 
throwing candy at the audience.Hee Hee Hee.
  Ya know, maybe the Zombie slaves might just be enough to make Jed Nervous...
but then, anybody that talked to Jesus on a Morrocan beach might not scare that
easy.  Maybe the Zombies should stumble over, and perform the seductive LAMBADA
while dressed as crossing guards. That ought to at least amuse the crowd.

  SO...Anyone with interesting ideas about varios and sundry bizarre bits of
performance art to make Jed nervous with, contact Michael Kellen, or MOI,
the Deathmeistress.  For copies of the Supercalifrajalisticexpialidocious
Cthuhlu song of the Elder Gods, Keep your eyes peeled for Brother Jed and the
Destroyers, Human beings so bewildered, fanatic, and sad that not even Geraldo
can escape!!!!


             With Love, (And all the Ding-dongs the Little Folk can eat;)
   
                                Death.
                            *************
                            (U B THE * productions)
From: jh8149@honduras (John Harrell)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Re: Sighting Report
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:52:53 GMT
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.

On sunny spring days Brother Jed would tell us stories of his corrupt
youth, while we would sit in the grass outside Stewart Center (1977).
At that time he would tell us the story of how he was saved on the
beaches of Morocco by a hippie carring a heavy cross.  Other stories
included his being a counselor at a dorm in Madison Wisconsin and
corrupting young freshman women, smoking dope, and other immoral
behavior that he engaged in.  
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
From: bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams)
Subject: Re: Sighting Report
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:48:04 GMT

>>At that time he would tell us the story of how he was saved on the
beaches of Morocco by a hippie carring a heavy cross....

Thats it!! Morocco! I knew it was an African beach! (See my
post concerning his 1981-1984 years.) But he always tried to 
make the listeners believe that He (Jed) talked through this
cross bearing hippy to Jesus.

Thanks for the mental jog.

BWilliams

Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
From: bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams)
Subject: Interesting Jed History!!!!
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 11:01:47 GMT

I Attended The University of Michigan and Wayne State University where
I got to see the Brother Jed Sideshow on four different autumns....

The reson I'm Posting is because I saw him in the fall of 1981 and
later and want to know if he still says the same stories!

1> Brother Jed found god while high on a hallucinagen on the beach of
an African country during the sixties. He repeated the story many times.
PS (I Meant spoke to Jesus).

2> Jesus Christ Himself met him again and gave him a Gold Watch. he was 
severely ridiculed for this story but held fast through tons of jeering
and loud criticism.

3> In 1981 he was ferverently against Sorority girls (Jezebels, Forrrr
nnniiiicators, and Strumpets (God I love his Thesaurus)

4> In 1981 he was actively against Blue jeans!!!!!! No shit.

5> He of course was ferverently against homosexuals, and the croud 
loved to get him to say the word in his unique longdrawn shouting method.

6> BROTHER JED GRABBED THE MICROPHONE BETWEEN SETS AT A DOOBIE-BROTHERS
CONCERT AND PREACHED TO THE AUDIENCE UNTIL THE MIC WAS WRESTLED FROM HIM.
What the hell is this Van Halen story stuff.

7> His chin vibrated, almost shivered, constanlty when enough angry and
vociferous students surrounded him. I felt sorry for him as I realized
that the involuntary muscle spasms might have indicated brain damage
"psychosis" from his admitted heavy drug takingh days. Does it still
quiver???

8> He always dressed as fancy as possible in a smartly tailored dark suit.

9> He toured in 1985 with a frail looking girl with a baby dressed as if
she was an Amish woman almost. Certainly Little-house-on-the-prarie-ish.
She stood well away from the sideshow and the crowd usually recognized
here association to him merely by her apearance. Jed usually fended off
any rude references to this "girl of his, obvioulsy unwed" quicky and
abruptly. Almost in a guilty manner. Did he marry her? Was she a tag along
convert?

10> He had a few jailhouse holding tank stories.

11> Even in 1981 he had a large following of "fans", though local 
religeuos institutions came out to moderate him and jeer him. There idea
was to show the audience that the organized Christian churches and the
Christ-A-Holics are against Jeds fanatic represive views. there idea seemed
sound, but did not soften my athiest attitudes.

Oh well... Gosh a Brother Jed UseNet Group....... AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BWilliams
From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:19:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:

>strake@coos.dartmouth.edu (strake) writes...
>>during the thread from a Nice Guy (tm) who gets some with enough frequency
>                                            ^^^^^^^^^
>>that he has no need to complain.

>Before you flame me, I read the rest of the post, and agreed with a lot of 
>it.  But if you go out to meet women with the *expressed* and *only* 
>interest of getting sex, you are likely to be disappointed sometimes.

Ok.  This isn't exactly a flame.  I just don't agree with your
interpretation.  I don't think he's saying he goes out just to get
sex.  I think he's saying he's a NG who has had some success with
women.

There ain't nuttin' wrong wit dat! ;)

That's about where I'd place myself too.  Of course, like I posted
elsewhere, I no longer consider myself a NG, at least according to
what many people seem to think that means.  I mean, I'm the friendly,
compassionate type, but if you think I'm not interested in having sex
or that I don't have a few skeletons in my closet you're in for a
surprise. ;)
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From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:54:32 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher

regan1016@bestsd.sdsu.edu (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY) writes:

] montgojw@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (II Jerry Mon writes...
] > 
] >Don't you women out there like nice guys?  
] 
] Eeek!  We just went over this in alt.romance.chat!! *grin*

(so I'm removing alt.sex, and adding a.r.c - if Jerry 
REALLY is talking about having sex - he can go buy some.

A relationship is something else, IMMHO.)

] Anyway ... there are *some* women who find 'nice guys' boring ... however, 
] there are women who *don't* feel that way.  I should know, because I'm one 
] of them ... :)
] Unfortunately, nice guys don't ask me out ... :( *sigh*

And here, as I have said before, is the crux of the problem.
(as someone else said, it's September again, and the "NG"
thread comes around again - as dependably as Labor Day...)

The problem is that the NiceGuys who are lamenting are spending
their time dreaming about women who are not interested in
them - and they are ignoring the women who MIGHT be interested
in them.

Case in point - a friend at work.  I've known him for several
years now - and with some regularity he gets interested in some
woman - who is not interested in him.  Usually she has a number
of men-friends, is popular, bright, vivacious, outgoing, etc. -
all things guaranteed to attract the interest of other people.
And of course - the people SHE finds interesting are ALSO going
to be bright, vivacious, outgoing, popular, etc.  So my friend
spends time dreaming about her, trying to get up enough courage
to ask her out - and getting turned down.

Concurrently during this time, I have myself expressed an 
interest in him, and have mentioned a couple of other women
that I felt found him of interest.  His reaction to them was
that they were "not women he was interested in dating, and
why should he lower his standards" - while at the same time,
in practically the same breath, lamenting about the OTHER 
women "why won't they go out with me - and give me a chance?"
I think I was finally able to point out how hypocritical
this attitude was about a year ago.

So - to all you "NiceGuys" - first off, you need to have SOME
interests - you don't want to hang around acting like a love-
sick puppy dog - AND check to see if there is some NiceGirl
available who WILL go out with you!

Diana
From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:53:17 GMT
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.

Christopher> == Christopher Jon Petit <petitc@vccnw07.its.rpi.edu> 

 Christopher>   Also, add Breaking Up to the types of romantic songs.
 Christopher> Good song titles for that are:

[...]

More:

"Throwing It All Away" -- Genesis
"Overs" -- Simon & Garfunkel
"Don't Dream It's Over" -- Crowded House
"Since You've Been Gone" -- The Outfield
"Something About You" -- Level 42



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