HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: van@wucs1.wustl.edu (Van K. Vo)
Subject: Re: rule question
Keywords: service rotation
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:15:58 GMT

Hey, if you have a rulebook and looked it up, I would trust my self to
the non-existence of above ruling.  But it sure as heck doesn't take
a national ref to answer your question.

USVBA does not allow for play with less than 6 players on a team.
Period.  Play cannot start with less than 6 players, and if an injury
results in a team not being able to field 6 players, the game is
forfeit.

What is the deal with every simple question needing a national ref to answer
them?  Rob has a life too.  The truth is the truth, even if it's from the
mouth of a two-year-old.

Van Vo
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Subject: Re: Chicago area volleystores
Supersedes: <92324.104356U10521@uicvm.uic.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:52:27 CST
From: Margaret "Tweety" Bird Altier <U10521@uicvm.uic.edu>

Don't know of any in the southwest Chicagoland area, but there's
a very good one up north in the city:
  Spike It Sports
  3054 N. Sheffield
  312-528-7448

I'll ask around and see if someone knows of stores closer to home.

> Can someone please email or post the locations of
> any volleyball specialty stores ( or sporting goods
> stores that actually recognize volleyball as a major
> sport) in the Chicago area, especially the southwest
> 'burbs? Can't seem to find any in the book.
> Thanks
>
> Leon Shugrue
> shugrue@spatial.eid.anl.gov
>
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From: molod@molod.gsfc.nasa.gov (Andrea Molod)
Subject: league scheduling software
Organization: NASA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:38:15 GMT

i am looking for some existing software that will arrange a league
schedule. i assume i can write one in either fortran or c, but if
one already exists that someone is using and is willing to share,
it saves lots of time and effort. i'm looking for a code that is
more general than smart, i am willing to modify it to suit our
league's needs. you can replay by email or by posting.
thanks in advance.

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From: liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu)
Subject: Re: overlapping: still confused!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:51:48 GMT

In article <BxruuL.M1C@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider) writes:
>I'm confused because I've been given two different answers.
>Let's look at the situation where the left front (L) and
>middle front (M) want to change positions so that L can hit middle
>and M can hit strong-side.  So before the ball is served,
>
>Albert Liu says:
>
>...
>
>Glenn Corwin says:

Ignore what I said.  Glenn Corwin has it right.  Definitely listen to
Rob Peglar since he is a National Referee.  (I thought it was clear that
he had the definitive answer, but perhaps you missed his posting.)

In any case, it appears that the positions must be held until the ball
is hit for the serve (and not at the time of the toss) under Rule 7
_Commencement of Play and the Service_ Article 8 _Positions of Players at
Service_ "...  After the ball is contacted for the serve, players may
move from their respective positions."  (This is from the 1991 rulebook,
and I don't think there have been any changes in this particular area.)

However, I have to agree that from what I've observed in NCAA Division I
women's volleyball, referees seem to allow the setters to go after the toss.

> From: robp@landru.network.com (Rob Peglar)
> 
> Here it is in a nuthshell.
> 
> A) For 4-3 or 5-6 overlaps (lf-cf, lb-cb) there must be floor contact by the
> left player that is to the left of the leftmost floor contact of the center player.
> in other words, the left player must have something closer to the sideline
> than the center player.  what is closer to the right sideline is immaterial.
> 
> example.
> 
> (feet shown; left margin is left sideline; LpLF is left player, left foot; CpLF is
> center player, left foot; LpRF is left player, right foot; CpRF is center player,
> right foot)
> 
> 
> LpLF            LpRF
>     CpLF    CpRF
> 
> 
> i.e. this is a straddle.  This is legal.  The left player has something on the
> floor closer to the left sideline than the center player.
> 
> 
> B)  For 2-3 or 1-6 overlaps (rf-cf, rb-cb) the sideline of importance is the
> right sideline.  Just substitute the characters 'right' for 'left' in A) above.
> 
> C)  For any front-back overlaps (4-5, 3-6, 2-1) the line of importance is
> the center line (not the back line)  So, the front player must have something
> on the floor closer to the center line (net) than the back player.  The back
> line is of no importance.  Using the example above,
> --------------net---------------
> 
> FpLF
>     
>    BpLF
> 
>    BpRF                 this is legal (again,a straddle)
> 
> FpRF
> 
> 
> 
> (Fp - front player; Bp - back player)
> 
> 
> 
> That's it.
> 
> Rob
> 
> USA National Referee
--
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liu@cerl.uiuc.edu
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From: cannon@ziggy.es.com (Gary Cannon)
Subject: Re: rule question
Reply-To: cannon@ziggy.es.com (Gary Cannon)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 14:41:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.221237.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca>, comptec91046@camins.camosun.bc.ca writes:
> In article <1992Nov16.151558.26545@wuecl.wustl.edu>, van@wucs1.wustl.edu (Van K. Vo) writes:
> > USVBA does not allow for play with less than 6 players on a team.
> > Period.  Play cannot start with less than 6 players, and if an injury
> > results in a team not being able to field 6 players, the game is
> > forfeit.
> > 
> 
> What can be done though (and has been done) is that an ijured player (who is
> mobile can stand on the court (or sit) and when the play starts he/she can move
> out of the way for the five other players to cover the court.  This of course
> is assuming the player is not too badly injured.

I once broke my ankle coming down after a spike near the first of a 
match. Since there were only six of us, I played the rest of the match
just as you describe. After I got my cast on, I played the rest of the season
in a cast. I went through about 9 casts.

> 
> 					Chris Mullin
> 					Victoria, B.C.
> 

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From: dml7@navaho.cc.bellcore.com (lee,danny)
Subject: >>> WANTED : STRENGTH SHOES' MANUAL >>>
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:14:41 GMT

hi!  anyone out there who has the strength shoes?  i need a copy of the
manual (20 somewhat pages).  i got the shoes for some time, but my stupid
brother threw away the manual.  i'm thinking about training in them
again and would like to follow the program outlined in the manual than
doing it from my recollection.  i would be most grateful.  i'll offer
to pay for any expenses incurred (ie. copying fee & postage).  thanks in
advance.  please respond as soon as you can.

by the way, what is the difference between the strength shoes and the
jump soles (the ones that can attach to the bottom of a sneaker) other
than price?  they both appear to accomplish the same goal i think.

dml7@cc.bellcore.com
From: cjones@dbaccess.com (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Laws available on-line?
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:23:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: wookie.791
Organization: Cross Access Corp., Santa Clara, CA
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So why don't we write FIFA and ask them.
I will even volunteer to do it (write FIFA).
carl jones
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From: se03@titus.nextlab.cs.qub.ac.uk (Keith Armstrong)
Subject: re : Northern Ireland
Organization: University of Oulu
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:43:59 GMT

I have to totally agree with the message from Ian.  Northern Ireland may  
not have the best of players, but his point about England and the  
population of London was spot on.  English papers (and the population in  
general) seem to think that England are wonderful - SO THEY BLOODY SHOULD  
BE - look at the players they have to pick from.  Remember Sweden 1992 - I  
laughed, as I'm sure did Scottish, Welsh and Eire fans, whos teams  
regularly produce exceptional results considering the players they have to  
chose from, and still don't get a mention in the press.

	England forever - NOT!!!
From: gharpure@power.psl.ee.vt.edu (])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Where art thou, San Siro?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:35:45 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

	The latest issue of National Geographic (no, not the wrong group,
READ ON) shows a panoramic view of Milan (City, that is.) Could a Milanista
(or Interista :-)) say if San Siro is visible anywhere? (By the way, hasn't
the name been changed to Giuseppe Meazza (sp?) stadium or some such?)

	The same issue also shows a grandstand (or whatever) view inside the
San Siro. It seems to be the end of a Milan (team this time) match. Some
Milan shirts can be clearly seen walking towards the tunnel. I guess the
other team is all white.

Did Milan win the championship last year in a home match?
Could this photograph have been taken then?

Vasudev

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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject: Re: Best team in Europe (Was: Re: WC qualifier: Israel-Sweden)
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 17:57:23 GMT

bjornts@ii.uib.no (Bjoern Tore Sund) writes:

>And to here that from someone from the country that has shown that the
>German's are _not_ in any way unbeatable! The team Germany showed in 
>the European Cup this year was not in any way _very_ frightening, and
>that team was mostly composed of _old_ players.

What have givin you that impression? Of the team that played in Sweden 
only Brehme, Vo"ller and Buchwald will be past 30 in 94. The midfield
was made out of players in the 24-27 years range and is likely to 
get better in the years to come.

-- 
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rorschak@daimi.aau.dk  |                4xEC1 and 2xEC3 Winner
               The Manchester United of 2015?
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From: mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Video Nasty
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:48:57 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov19.112150.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> Poor old Vinny Jones, 20,000 out of pocket for appearing in a video
> illustrating all that is bad about football.  Had the FA seen the recent
> release on 1690 Video entitled Super Ally then perhaps they would be more
> lenient on the hard tackling maestro.  After all the Jones' video didn't focus
> too much on SAlly's cheeky little grin - the most criminal thing in football!
> 
  Talk about Video Nasties, we see one every week, its' called the highlights
of the Scottish Premeir Division!!! 
If JOnes, thinks hes' a hardman then let him play against Ian Ferguson of
Rangers!, now theres an evil bugger in the Souness mould! (Ferguson for
Anfield?). Half the Celtic fans would love that!!!!!!!

> Note*
> 
> The above statement is not clouded by the fact that McCoist has scored 432
> goals already this season which is 20X more than the entire front lines of
> Celtic, Airdrie, Marseille (Allez allez allez!) and S. Hussein's khaki and
> brown army .  Of course this means that he has also scored 431x more than our
> Parish Priest but don't tell the bishop (Winning not Harold).  
> 

Are you a Celtic fan? then I must congratulate Paddy Connolly for scoring
against your lot at Tannadice about 10 days ago!!!! 
(Mike Galloway only set it up for him!).


> 
> As always,
> Dan

Dan, Dan the Pipers man perhaps?

The Analytical Engine.
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From: eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: Let's All Wind Up Rangers (na na na na)
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:20:50 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

May I say that I've thoroughly enjoyed this dialogue. It's been
like old times. But I think the argument is being bogged down as
we all have our own interpretation as to what "best football side"
means. 

Ultimately, the stats can lead us to no other conclusion other than
that Rangers are the best side going at the moment, but that attribute
constitutes a lot more than the quality of outfield play. The English
postings on Arsenal make very valid points. I'm only trying to get over
the point that Celtic are a more stylish, attack minded and skillful
side than Rangers. The fact that Celtic are so far behind so early 
indicates that they have been quite a bit inferior in other departments.

I can appreciate a mild amount of indignance from the Currant Buns -
they're on a high and it must seem very easy for them these days.
However, they are in danger of allowing their euphoria up to serious
self-delusion levels. Rangers may be an attack minded side on their day,
but it wasn't that aspect of their play which gained them their
victories over Leeds and Celtic. Anyone can see that!

Anyway, when are Celtic going to turn round and fulfill all this faith
I have in them. Well they may never do so, because now they are facing a
severe test of character - and whether they have sufficient quantities
of that has to be debatable. Still we live in hope. Ultimately the 
burden of responsibility falls on the management - they have made
mistakes this season, but a couple of reasons why Celtic have struggled
may be the less impressive form of McStay this term and the failure to
knit together a composed forward, which hasn't been helped by the 
disappearence of Nicholas into the reserves. Once these two situations
have been rectified,we may see a Celtic side performing closer to its
potential.

Hands Off Our Water, btw

            Gerry
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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Re: 2nd Division Internationals
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:37:59 GMT


John Harkes of the US and Sheffied Wednesday when the owls were in the old
second division

tab Ramos of the US and Real Betis of the spanish second division.

Andy B
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: European WC 94 results and tables 19th Nov.
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:22:24 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.


The results of the European section World Cup 94
Qualifiers play last night, Wed 18th November and
the current league table positions.

GROUP 1
=======

Scotland.......0  Italy....0
Switzerland....3  Malta....0
(Bickel, Sforza,
 Chapuisat)

               P  W  D  L  F  A  Pts
Switzerland....4  3  1  0 14  3  7
Italy..........2  0  2  0  2  2  2
Scotland.......3  0  2  1  1  3  2
Portugal.......1  0  1  0  0  0  1
Malta..........2  0  1  1  0  3  1
Estonia........2  0  1  1  0  6  1

GROUP 2
=======

England...... 4   Turkey...0 
(Gascoigne2,
Shearer
Pearce)

            P  W  D  L  F  A  Pts
Norway......4  3  1  0 15  2  7
England.....2  1  1  0  5  1  3
Poland......2  1  1  0  3  2  3
Turkey......3  1  0  2  4  6  2
Holland.....2  0  1  1  3  4  1
San Marino..3  0  0  3  1  16 0

GROUP 3
=======

Northern Ireland..0  Denmark..............1
                    (Larsen)
Spain.............0  Republic of Ireland..0

                 P  W  D  L  F  A  Pts
Rep. of Ireland..4  2  2  0  6  0  6
Spain............4  1  3  0  3  0  5
Denmark..........4  1  3  0  1  0  5
Lithuania........5  1  3  1  5  5  5
N. Ireland.......4  1  2  1  5  3  4
Latvia...........6  0  4  2  3  8  4
Albania..........5  1  1  3  2  9  3

GROUP 4
=======
Belgium.....2  Wales.....0
(Staelens,
Degryse)

                P  W  D  L  F  A  Pts
Belgium.........5  5  0  0  9  1  10
Romania.........4  2  1  1  13 3  5
Wales...........4  2  0  2  8  7  4
Czechoslovakia..3  1  1  1  6  3  3
Cyprus..........3  1  0  2  2  2  2
Faroe Isles.....5  0  0  5  0  22 0

--
Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 15:00:01 CET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Predictions
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>
>As an introduction, the league predictions for the Dutch league this
>weekend:
>
>Ajax             - Willem II        1
>PSV              - Dordrecht'90     1
>Den Bosch        - Feyenoord        2
Arrgh... you must be kidding:       1/X

>RKC              - Twente          2/X
>Cambuur          - Groningen        X
>Roda             - Fortuna         1/X
>
>Well, this is all I can remember from the program right now.
>
>I hope you all will follow my example!
>
Anyone wants my Austrian predictions...? (I'm usually very wrong though :-)

Karel
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From: bjornar@fdh.hsf.no (Bj|rnar Steinbakken)
Subject: Re: PETER BEARDSLEY & EVERTON
Organization: Finnmark College
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:50:40 GMT
Reply-To: bjornar@fdh.hsf.no

In article 25042@news.uit.no, bjornar@fdh.hsf.no (Bj|rnar Steinbakken) writes:
>In article 721564480@p4.cs.man.ac.uk, ahmadt@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Tariq N Ahmad) writes:
>>Hi there peeps ,
>>	Whilst watching highlights of Wimbledon V Everton last night
>>I noticed that almost every attack Everton mounted involved one man-
>>Peter Beardsley. 
>>	Now admitedly, Kendall is only an average manager but in my
>>opinion Beardsley has to be THE BEST BUY HE HAS EVER MADE. 
>
>
>Agreed!  Actually, I watched that match live  (I can post match report if wanted)
>- I have just returned back from a one-week trip to London.
>Peter Beardsley was indeed THE outstanding player on the field, with intelligent
>runs, not to mention passes,  and a very well taken goal.
>

Uhmm, I meant to agree with that this is the best buy Kendall has done in his second
spell with Everton.
In his first spell, surely the signings of  Peter Reid (#60.000 from Bolton Dec 1982)
and Neville Southall (#150.000 from Bury Dec 1981) must be considered the best buys.


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From: rik@cv.ruu.nl (Rik Stokking)
Subject: World Cup Indoor Soccer: teams and dates second round.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:50:52 GMT
Organization: University of Utrecht, 3D Computer Vision Research Group
Keywords: Indoor Soccer



Hello again!


The name CIS in my previous posting has to be replaced by Russia, sorry.
The unknown team (for me) in group C was Belgium.
(thanks Frank and Andy.)

Coverage here in Holland is rather poor, this means that I only have the results
in group B (anyone else for the rest of the scores??):

The Netherlands - Italy  4-3 (1-0)      (with a sizzling and chaotic end.)
Iran - Paraguay         10-6 (2-2)      (Wooow, 12 goals in the second half!)


Table group B:

Iran            3-4     (18-13)
The Netherlands 3-4     ( 7- 7)
Italy           3-2     (15-16)
Paraguay        3-2     (14-18)

Iran and the Netherlands through to the second round.


(USA has beaten China by howmuch?)


Second round:

Group 1                         Group 2
Argentina                       Iran
Brazil                          Spain
The Netherlands                 Poland
USA                             Belgium


Monday:
	Argentina - The Netherlands
	Brazil - USA

	Iran - Poland
	Spain - Belgium


Tuesday:
	Argentina - Brazil
	The Netherlands - USA

	Iran - Spain
	Poland - Belgium


Wednesday:
	Argentina - USA
	The Netherland - Brazil

	Iran - Belgium
	Poland - Spain


Cross finals on friday, final on saturday


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From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Subject: FIFA World Indoor Championship
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 20 Nov 1992 12:44 MST  

Spain 5  -  US  3

Sorry, didn't get any specifics of the match.

The US (1-1) is now tied with Russia (1-1) for second place in Group D
behind Spain (2-0).  US plays China (0-2) on Saturday.  The top two teams
in each group advance.

-Eric

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Subject: Re: CSKA "home" games
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:30:06 +0000







Subject: Re: CSKA "Home" Games
From: msdloem@cs.vu.nl (Loemban MSD)
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
In article <Bxt9M6.MKn@cs.vu.nl> msdloem@cs.vu.nl (Loemban MSD):

>J.M.Ross (J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk) wrote:
>:
>: Does anyone know why UEFA won't allow CSKA to play their home EC1 group
>: matches in Moscow? Is there any precedence for this?
>The rescheduling was due to the climate in Moscow in the Winter. It's going to
>be too cold to play soccer.

I heard that too. UEFA 3rd round matches have been played in Moscow in
November/December before and hasn't it warmed up by March/April? Surely its
no colder than in the Scandanavian countries?

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