From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Gee, why don't we default on the US debt!!!?
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: usa,tx
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:24:43 GMT

In <HFw+r*wk1@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:

>In article <1992Oct29.135115.13295@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, fred j mccall 575-3539 writes:

>> 
>> If our health care is so great, Jim, why do people in other countries
>> live longer than we do?  Why are we FOURTEENTH in infant mortality?

>Fred, why don't you list those fourteen countries?  

Well, it was in the interests of saving a bit of bandwidth, but I
offered to do just that.  Not sure how you parlay that into some sort
of dark manipulation on my part, but here they are.  Oh, it turns out
that there are a lot more of them than 14, using current numbers.

	 1) Japan
	 2) Austria
	 3) Liechtenstein
	 4) Switzerland
	 5) Belgium
	 6) Denmark
	 7) Finland
	 8) France
	 9) Ireland
	10) Italy
	11) Spain
	12) Sweden
	13) Taiwan
	14) West Germany (Former)
	15) Andorra
	16) Canada
	17) East Germany (Former)
	18) Germany (Combined)
	19) Hong Kong
	20) Iceland
	21) Luxembourg
	22) Macau
	23) Malta
	24) Netherlands
	25) Norway
	26) United Kingdom
	27) Aruba
	28) Australia
	29) Monaco
	30) Netherlands Antilles
	31) Reunion
	32) San Marino
	33) Singapore
	34) Israel

Nations having roughly the same infant mortality as the United States
are:  Brunei, Cayman Island, Cyprus, Falkland Islands, Greece,
Martinique, and New Zealand.

>Could it be that you would
>be embarrassed by the names?  Could it be that those countries have small
>populations?  Could it be that those countries don't have very large numbers
>of illegal aliens from a very poor country to the south?  

So much for another of Jim's stuipd conspiracy theories.  Note that
those nations named include both large and small, rich and poor,
developed and lesser-developed.

>I'd say that given
>our circumstances, our health care record is very good.  

No doubt you would, but then you tend to be pretty mindless knee-jerk
when it comes to any comparison of the U.S. with anywhere.  We pay
much more, per capita, for health care than ANY OTHER NATION.  Why do
we do so poorly with that amount of resources being expended?  It
smacks of inefficiency to me, but Jim will simply attribute it to some
magical conspiracy to make the U.S. look bad. 

>Fred also conveniently
>forgot to mention the fact that there are literally HUNDREDS of countries out
>there.

Oh gee, now THERE is a telling point.  BWAAAhhhhaaaaahahhaaaahhaaahahah!

>Why do people like Fred always love to pretend that America is really
>bad?

Who are 'people like Fred' and where, pray tell, have I 'pretended'
anything, much less that 'America is really bad'?  I simply recognize
that there ARE flaws; this is anathema to Jim.

>In another post he brags about his time spent defending America.  I haven't
>seen him defending it.  How have you defended America Fred?

Where were you when I was in the Middle East, shithead?

You know, Jim, you almost HAVE to be a 'Joe Bob Briggs' kind of parody
-- if I was a left-wing liberal, I couldn't have INVENTED you any
better than what you are here.

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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