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Subject: Re: English Soccer
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:26:51 +0000







In article <1992Nov5.134636.11412@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl
(Mischa Bronstring) & vdpoll@fwi.uva.nl (Sidney vd Poll)

>We think English soccer #%$%#@$%s.
>Explanations: English teams don't know anything about tactics.
>But, the English posters on this group always pretend as if their soccer
>is world-class! So much fuss about nothing...
>We mean, Blackburn Rovers on top of the league... A promovendus...

Promowhat? Pass the dictionary someone ...

>And then the way they are on top: far too many draws and losses for a real
>top team.

One loss in 15 games is one too many!

> Here in Holland, for example, a team will never be first after
>that many rounds with that many lost points! PSV here is first in the
>league, but they're still chased by Ajax, Feyenoord and FC Twente, even
>while they've only lost 2 points in 10 matches now!

All that shows is that Holland has three or four teams which are much better
than the rest whilst England has many teams which are of about equal
standard. It says nothing about the overall standard in each country.

>You see it again in the European Cup-tournaments: Only Glasgow Rangers
>(allright, it's Scottish) plays further, and we think it's only because
>they've played Leeds Utd. If they'd played against a continental team
>(well, not Austrian, Swiss, Norwegian, or something like that) they'd
>been kicked out, we're sure!

We were talking about *English* soccer weren't we? Anyway, didn't Leeds
knock out VfB Stuttart before Rangers turned them over?

>Conclusion: There are no real top-teams in England! It's a 'unity-
>sausage', as we use to say in Dutch. You sure feel what that means!

On the evidence of the English showing in Europe this year it's hard to
argue with that.

>As an end of this posting two things:

>- - We'd like our theory proven (e.g. PSV gets into the same poule as
>  Rangers),

Rangers in the same pool as PSV will prove nothing about your theorem,
Rangers are a Scottish team, not English. BTW A lemma - do you remember the
last time Rangers played PSV? It was 0-0 at Ibrox and 3-2 to Rangers in
Eindhoven with a far worse team than the current one.

>- - We'd like to give you all a tip: DREAM ON!!!
>PS: We do like your ambiance!

What's it like to see a crowd then?

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