HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jhurwitz@access.digex.com (j. hurwitz)
Subject: New Cyberpunk BBS in DC  1 zer0 Cyber Net BBS 301-589-4064
Summary: Cyberpunk Computer Culture Hacking Programming Dialog 
Keywords: BBS Computers Fun Cyber Hack Prog Talk File Mind Neuro
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Distribution: all
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:28:06 GMT

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From: cabal@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Gianluca Donato 342139/IF)
Subject: CP Mags
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:51:14 GMT

Hi you Cpunks, 
I found some time ago a poll proposed by a magazine called bOING-bOING.
I contacted them to know if it was possible to have it in electronic form (much
easier to get and incomparably faster than mailing it to Italy) unfortunately
they (I e-mailed the editor) just proposed me to subscribe. 
This made me think about all the more or less underground CP magazines I believe
exist in the States (Mondo 2000 just to name one), or anywhere else (possibly 
in English). Can anyone tell me about these magazines ? 
I am particularly interested in subjects like smart drugs, hacking, and 
anything related with CP (in theory but especially in action).
Any type of info will be immensely appreciated (titles, e-mail addresses,
personal impressions about any mag...)
If the subject is in any way too 'hot' for the News, please send me E-mail I
will forward to anyone else is interested.
	Thanks in advance,
				Gianluca



Gianluca Donato alias: cabal@sabrina.dei.unipd.it
		                        I T A L Y 	


Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (zoiks!)
Subject: Re: 2600 Address
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 03:44:09 GMT

In article <wen8D4G00WB=R7uloU@andrew.cmu.edu> pl1u+@andrew.cmu.edu
(Patrick C Leger) writes: 
|I've got a copy of 2600 here, and it says their network address is:
|2600@well.sf.ca.us
|I don't know if they've got an ftp site, but I suppose you can ask them.

I'm fairly sure they don't....I think this address is mainly used for
subscription and general information, and probably submissions as
well...

Emmanuel Goldstien also has an address there...

And, like I said before, buy the magazine, it's worth it.  Help
support freedom of information and freedom of the press.

|Hope it helps...

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From: ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Sneakers: Moral Confusion?
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:50:50 GMT

From: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler)
>***********
>
>But didn't Redford cop the vital chip before James Earl Jones/NASA
>huffed out of the room with the black box?  In other words, NSA had a
>worthless box.  Redford & Company had the chip.  Therefore they did the
>fund jockeying.
>  And it does seem like a cyberpunk ending -- all spiffied up Hollywood
>style, of course: the guys with the criminal records, nut cases and
>disabled -- outcasts all -- wind up with the grand prize, and seem
>primed to prank the world into their vision of the good society. 

I haven't seen the movie, but my feeling is that there's no such thing as a
unique security hole.  What one chip can do, another chip can do just as well.

That's one big problem with the plans of the alphabet goons to legislate
keyholes in networks and cypher routines:  They open holes for other people
too.  (Granted, the "other people" might need a couple craypower, but that
isn't too outrageous any more.)
From: willw@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Will Wiley)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:14:59 GMT
Subject: Re: blade runner
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk

It is playing at the Varsity Theater in PaloAlto on University Street.

willw@hpsidlg.sid.hp.com
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: sneakers ending
From: bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 17:35:04 PDT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

I guess they assumed that people would think the NSA is too stupid to 
figure out that the main chip is totally missing, and believe that it is 
merely broken.  People do not have much faith in government latly.

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: PCVR - Issue 5
From: gradecki@rodeo.uwyo.edu (Joseph D. Gradecki)
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:59:14 MST
Distribution: alt.cyberpunk,world
Organization: University of Wyoming


                                
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From: morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: William Gibson's Email
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:00:21 EDT
Organization: the pickle factory at Langley, Virginia

olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson) writes:

> P.S. - For those of you without a sense of humor, send your flames to
>        weenie@bit-bucket.loser.nil.

Or even weenie@bit-bucket.loser.mil   ....



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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (jim morrison's AA group)
Subject: Re: Sneakers: Moral Confusion?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 21:27:47 GMT

In article <VPusRB3w165w@underg.UUCP> max@underg.UUCP (Max Cray) writes:
|arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) writes:
|
|>   And it does seem like a cyberpunk ending -- all spiffied up Hollywood
|> style, of course: the guys with the criminal records, nut cases and
|> disabled -- outcasts all -- wind up with the grand prize, and seem
|> primed to prank the world into their vision of the good society. 
|
|I thought the ending was one of the worst parts of the movie. So the NSA
|discovers that they don't really have the encryption breaking device, or
|that at best they only have a copy. Is Redford and company prepared to
|go underground, when the NSA comes after them for it? Is this just a set-up
|for Sneakers II?


The Sneakers group seemed a pretty even match for the NSA et al, so, I
don't think it would be difficult for them to go underground,
especially with the codebreaker.....The NSA wouldn't be able to find
them because the group (drawing a parallel to another great epic hero
of society :) "has the power"....

Does anyone know if there's plans for a sequel?  Frankly I hope there
isn't...The film pretty much made it's point about themes surrounding
the growing importance of information in our society (info. as
commodity, who owns it, personal rights to, etc.)..Had a nice ending,
I thought, in that it forces you to ponder these themes...Nice wake up
call to winnebago-mall-suburbia to think about the future...

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From: ratner@owlnet.rice.edu (Logan Joshua Ratner)
Subject: Re: The Borg and Cyber-poseurs (What is Bladerunner?)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:23:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.023851.20882@panix.com> jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold) writes:
>In <1992Oct1.190141.7714@nstn.ns.ca> CS341A002@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (Loki) writes:

>...
>NOTE: did you know that scientists are now using infant foreskins in
>plastic surgery and reconstructive surgery...


   So?  Is this a gripe?  The skin tissue is available, and the original owner isn't
using it anymore. Why not?  In fact, I kind of like the idea.  Helping in some small
way to restore the health of another through reconstructive surgery. Seems very
appropriate, especially in the context of ritual circumcision. (Two Mitvah in one,
for those who know what I mean.)

ratner


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From: carlsoje@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Joel E. Carlson 1625773)
Subject: Re: William Gibson's Email
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:46:20 GMT


As for the raves there is always a little-"E".
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (tao master of existential angst)
Subject: Re: Looking for Electronic 2600
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 21:54:22 GMT

In article <pvanheus.718021672@frodo> pvanheus@frodo.cs.uct.ac.za (P A
van Heusden) writes: 
|Hey, I know this is OBnot a hacker group, but the hackers seem to hang out 
|here so:
|
|Could anyone tell me if 2600 magazine is available in Electronic form
|somewhere? If so, where?

No, it's not.  The closest thing you'll find is Phrack.

But, anyway, Subscribe to 2600 - support freedom if information,
freedom of the press, and besides, it apys for itself fairly quickly
if you get any use out of it at all....

|Peter van Heusden              "Through the cruelty of strangers
|CS2 lab, UCT, Cape Town           To the Neon dream"
|pvanheus@frodo.cs.uct.ac.za             Sisters of Mercy   

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mike@highlite.uucp (Mike Wiik)
Subject: Re: Mondo 2000 #7 and Technoculture
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:22:48 GMT

tbredeho@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Thomas A Bredehoft) writes:


>     I picked up a copy of _Mondo 2000_ issue 7 recently, at the plainly
>inflated cover price of $5.95, chiefly because I saw that it
>contained a review of _Technoculture_, the collection of essays edited by
>Constance Penley and Andrew Ross.  Most of my comments below are in reaction to
>this "review"  [further comments deleted]

So, um, what's your point???

>[...] egregious mistakes as those mentioned 
>above (and others) likewise fails to give the magazine credibility.

What?!? You thought M2K had credibility ?!?!?!?!?!?!?

>_Mondo 2000_ seems instead to be merely self-serving,
>self-congratulatory, self-indulgent glitz.  I was not impressed.

Well, no sandwiches for you! However, note that self-serving,
self-congratulatory, self-indulgent glitz IS the wave of the
future.....!

	-Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Book question!!
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:53:49 GMT

Yes I did !!!
very good .. i made a previous error before when i mentioned Deadlyh Interface .. it was Lethal Interface ...
    Steve C>
From: SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Book recommendation
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:53:02 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


   Anybody here read Queen of Angels, by Greg Bear? It's maybe not cyberpunk
in the *classic* sense, but I have a feeling y'all would enjoy it immensely.
:-) :-) :-)
  If you like Queen of Angels, then try out Blood Music. Good stuff, although
quite different from Q of A.  I think Greg Bear's style leaves Gibson writhing
in the dust. Sorry, folks.

-Sean LeBlanc
  -The century's getting old and stale; it needs new tribes.
      -Clive Barker, In the Flesh
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (scooby dooby doo)
Subject: Re: What is Bladerunner?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 02:00:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.190141.7714@nstn.ns.ca> CS341A002@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (Loki) writes:

|The replicants weren't robots. They were genetic engineering endproducts,
|using modified human DNA.
|
|I doubt it would be possible to make an argument in favor of the Borg being
|cyberpunk, tho. Cyber, yes, punk, no. Punks are individualists, the Borg
|sorta fail on that count. ;)

Yet the integration of inorganic and organic life forms is pretty
punk-ish...Yet, the Borg's didn't (as far as I remember) have it done
by choice.....

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From: dewind@acsu.buffalo.edu (Idbil Fubar)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Endoverse
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:25:32 GMT
Organization: UB

thx1138@angus.mi.org (Scott Abfalter) writes:

>Well, I picked up the book "Endoverse" by James
>(?) Hogan.  
> 
>I couln't even finish it.  I was suckered in by the Virtual Reality
>buzzword and a misleading back cover description.  What the book
>_really_ is is yet another Man-Meets-Highly-Advanced-Race-And-Gee-
>Aren't-They-Neat book.  

I know the feeling dude.  Bummer books since the highly advanced races 
really aren't that different than man when you look at it closely.

Id


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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: martink@NeoSoft.com (Martin Koistinen)
Subject: Re: Gibson, et all..
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 22:13:11 GMT
Summary: RE: Ono Sendai - Affordable Home VR

In article <NP31RB3w165w@west.darkside.com>, guru@west.darkside.com (Guru) writes:
> Virtual Mondo #2.  In the last issue (cant remember what the cover was, 
> 'cuz I didn't buy it..) there was this ad for Odo-Sendi Corperation.  No 
> description just a phone number.  Gave it a call.  Sales rep said 
> "affordable desktop VR... I send you info."  haven't gotten it yet.  When 
> I do I'll let ya know...
> 
 
Ono Sendai made an internet announcement concerning their involovment in
Home Entertainment VR, I have it somewhere... Let me know (email) and I'll
either repost it or send you a copy.
 
*** Martin Koistinen - martink@neosoft.com ***
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: high-tech data drops
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 05:48:30 GMT


I don't know why this was in alt.sex.bestiality, but while the ordinary
person may not have a 'need' for packet radio technology _now_, doesn't
mean that will always be so.  If the FBI believes otherwise, perhaps they
should look at the history of the telephone.  At one time, it was believed
that every town would only need one telephone.  I don't need HDTV right
now, but by golly when most stations are broadcasting HD and there is a
good library of HDTV discs or tapes (whatever) you can be sure that I will
own a HDTV set.
Just my rambling opinion.

Uncle Fester 


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From: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: What is Bladerunner?
Date: 28 Sep 1992 01:37:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


What is Bladerunner and why is everyone always talking about it?
Why don't they name this newsgroup alt.bladrunner instead of alt.cyberpunk.
By the way, what is a cyberpunk and how is this different from a 
cyperpunk?

Thanks.
-- 
Richard Banks      "" - 
                   ^^     Null quote by no one
From: morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Mondo 2000 #7 and Technoculture
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 10:20:14 EDT
Organization: the pickle factory at Langley, Virginia

guru-a0@access.digex.com (Guru Aleph-Null) writes:

> The certainly make better coffee-table magazines than _Smithsonian_
> don't they?

I dunno.  What's a coffee-table?

Hehe.  Seriously.  A (somewhat) cyberpunk rag sitting on someone's coffee
table. That's funny.  Like seeing some yuppie on an airplane reading Soldier
Of Fortune.

(although, to be honest, I don't particularly care for Mondo, it seems to fill
it's nitch... )

Get out there and do something!  Stop reading about it, damnit!

                (sorry, couldn't control myself)


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                       Let's watch the world fall apart.
                      (the illuminati are still watching)
From: brigham@apple.com
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: d'kukoo
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:21:04 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cyberpunk
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

I bet I spelled it wrong, but I'm too tired to go search for a CD...

Just saw them last week at DNA in San Francisco, and loved it.

Anyone know when/where they are playing next?

- brigham
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox)
Subject: Re: Cyber ritual is killing me!
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 08:06:42 GMT

>  Ever read Vernor Vinge's classic novella, "True Names"?  As I recall,
>Mister Slippery and the bunch were high-level Cyberians who called their
>Net gathering a "coven." Vinge very artfully wove together coven and
>fantasy imagery with a very imaginative vision of navigating information
>spaces. The rituals that they went through...
>  Sigh.... now I'm just continuing the thread everybody wants 86ed from
>altcyberpunk. Apologies to all.

	When I perform a ritual, I often put a piece of fully-laden
circuitboard on the altar along with everything else, being the cyberpunk
guy I am. It goes completely naturally, really, since any sufficiently
high level of technology is indistinguishable from magic and thus an
offering or religious item composed of computer parts et al, is completely
relevant. A request to the higher powers for better computing power, in a
vague way.
	Anyway, circuitboard is mysteriously beautiful, I think.

- Random Tox



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