HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sandee@Think.COM (Daan Sandee)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: Re: crossposting (was: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES
Followup-To: sci.geo.meteorology
Date: 16 Oct 1992 21:48:58 GMT
Organization: TMC
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Oct16.143019.29504@walter.cray.com>, gwv@eastrg2.cray.com (George Vandenberghe) writes:
|> 
|> This is just a message to new readers of this news group.

Which group ?

|> The above article
|> "  THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES (AND THEIR PREDICTION) "
|> 
|> Is definitely NOT typical of what appears on this newsgroup.  The
|> large volume of responses was shocked reaction to the original article.
|> 
|> Usually the newsgroup consists of a few articles per day and almost
|> all of them are  of intrest to the meteorological community.  

Hi, George ! Finally found The Net, have you ? However, you are making
the same mistake as most people who have been complaining about this
thread.
The original article (and all followups, including yours) was posted to

sci.archaeology,sci.astro,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.research

and everybody has been posting things complaining "this doesn't belong in
this group" without explaining *which* group they meant.
Now the original poster obviously was missing major pieces of his brain,
so we can't expect him to use the net in an intelligent manner.
But people complaining about inappropriate postings should try and
understand how things operate.
In a case of inappropriate *crossposting*, it is useless to complain on
the newsgroup you are reading. Likely enough, the culprit isn't reading
the group, and all of us who are agree with you anyway.

So :

1. Check the newsgroup line.
2. Delete the group or groups which you are interested in.
3. Also delete them from the Followup-To: line (some brain-damaged
   news software will set default followup to the same as the original
   article, unless you explicitly specify a Followup).
4. Write things like "this thread was misdirected to s.g.meteorology -
    please delete this newsgroup from followups."
   Or flame away - you're only addressing groups that you're not reading,
    and likely enough you'll never see the responses.

This recipe will hopefully serve to spare this group from having to read
more of the what-the-hell-is-this doing-here postings.

Now *you* weren't complaining. You were explaining to the readers OF
FIVE DIFFERENT GROUPS that this group has articles "of intrest to the
meteorological community". So you were making the same error. 
And apart from you and me thus meet again on this group, we had Joe Cain
here as well this week, with the same problem - he presumably read it on
sci.geology, but didn't check his newsgroup line either. FSU is getting
quite net.conscious, if not necessarily net.savvy, these days.

(So how's the job going ? Just today I had the bad news from Dennis -
I hope you stand a better chance than he does.)

regards,

Daan Sandee                                           sandee@think.com
Thinking Machines Corporation
Cambridge, Mass 02142                                 (617) 234-5044
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: frode@dxcern.cern.ch (Frode Weierud)
Subject: APT and/or HRPT images of Europe
Keywords: APT, HRPT, NOAA, weather satellites, weather images
Reply-To: frode@dxcern.cern.ch
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:49:16 GMT

Does anybody know if APT and/or HRPT images of Europe are available
somewhere by ftp?

Frode

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From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: Re: Analysis of weather images (lots of questions)
Date: 8 Oct 1992 17:14:04 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu
Keywords: GIF images processing

In article <70243@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4417a@prism.gatech.EDU (SKELTON,JOEL PHILLIP) writes:
>I'm new to this whole meteorology thing...

>4. Is there any way to fix the images with respect to common map
> projections? For example: are the coordinates (Lat/Lon, UTM, etc.)
> of the dots that make up the state boundaries known? Since they
> are able to overlay those outlines on the image the coordinates
>must be available at some point in the process. Or else someone
>has installed a set of REALLY bright lights around the periphery
>of all of the states.

   I used to work with weather imagery (and hope to again some day),
so I can with a large degree of confidence tell you that you hit the
answer right on the head.  In fact, now that I deal with images of
other planets, I find that it's much more difficult to locate features,
since few of the other planets even have decent indoor plumbing, let
alone conveniently-installed lighting.
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
From: larris@igc.apc.org (Lelani Arris)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: New Canadian Newsletters available
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:32:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1466900280:000:1759
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!larris    Oct  8 19:32:00 1992


From: Lelani Arris <larris>
Subject: New Canadian Newsletters available

 
Announcing....
 
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From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: RE: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:51:59 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, jeff@louie.mcduck (Jeff Ward) wrote:
>...And I can remember the 'good ole days' when Meteorology involved talking 
>about the weather ....

And here I always thought it was about meteors.  Learn something new every
day.

       Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3328.span@sdsc.edu
"It's always Beach Party Barbie, or Malibu Barbie....  That shit does not
prepare you for the true horror of a real woman's life.  Where is Single,
Abused, Trailer-Park Barbie?"             - Roseanne Arnold
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Subject: CLAPTRAP 
Keywords: TAKEOFF ON EQUAKES POST
Reply-To: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:54:32 GMT

(I'm posting this for a relative who has no access
  to the newsgroup or adequate health care)

          THE TRUE CAUSE OF WEATHER, APPLICATION
          TO A PREDICTIVE MODEL.

          By  I. M. ANUT

          Lunar Atmospheric Research Society 
          Moonbase Alpha, Sea of Tranquility 90210

Earth Scientists have for centuries failed to come up
with any WORKABLE theories as to why the terran atmosphere
circulates the way it does.  Sure there have been many
well intentioned efforts by SCIENTISTS, however each attempt
has failed miserably due to one simple basic fact that up 
until now HAS been overlooked.  This fact,  which I shall 
reveal (to those who send me $100.00) can only be understood 
in terms of the theory OF
 Quasi-pseudo-hydro-isodynamic adiabatic pressure surfaces.
It sounds complicated but it isn't, trust me I've done
the derivations.  I first discovered my theory while working
at a Lunar Weather Service Field Office in the Sea of
tranquility.  I quickly applied my theory to lunar weather
prediction AND found my forecasts were 100% correct, i.e.
perfect, I had achieved a skill level of 1.0 (far better than
any earth scientist has achieved)
I will now give MY forecast for the next 48 hours

	LWSNMCFRHT80
	FOUE80 KSOT 281200
	OUTPUT FROM LGM 12Z AUG 28 2192
	TTPTTR1R2R3 VVVLI PSDDFF TST1T3T5
	MBA//000000 000UD 000000 43UDUDUD 
        06000000000 000UD 000000 43UDUDUD  
	12000000000 000UD 000000 43UDUDUD 
	18000000000 000UD 000000 43UDUDUD
	24000000000 000UD 000000 05UDUDUD
        30000000000 000UD 000000 05UDUDUD
	36000000000 000UD 000000 05UDUDUD
        42000000000 000UD 000000 05UDUDUD
	48000000000 000UD 000000 05UDUDUD
                                         
Comments : The surface heat wave experienced for the last 2 weeks will give
           way to a long cold spell for the next 2 weeks. The Cool 
           down will again be quite rapid.
           No Solar eclipses are forecast.

UD = Undefined

OK, now back to the regularly scheduled newsgroup.
BTW, I'm suspicious of people who "post for friends"
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: annick@physiol.su.OZ.AU (Annick Ansselin)
Subject: what's the weather like USA/Canada?
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:28:42 GMT

This is a bit off the usual topic on this group, BUT ....
I 'll be visiting USA and Canada over the next couple of weeks,
(leaving Saturday Oz time). Could a kind soul please tell me what the wheather
is like in Illinois (Springfield), Ontario (Kingston) and L.A.?
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: marcia@virga.ucar.edu (Marcia Politovich)
Subject: Re: Hurricanes in Pacific; Iniki etymology
Organization: Research Applications Program/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:30:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.212027.11931@news.Hawaii.Edu> gerard@caliban.soest.hawaii.edu (Gerard Fryer) writes:
>|> >What is the origin of the name Iniki? It sounds polynesian. A goddess
>|> >of some sort?
>|> >
>|>  Iniki is the Hawaiian version of Enid. There are certain rules
>|>  for making Hawaiian names from English names, eg. Samuel becomes Kamuela. 
>|> 
>|>  Now where "Enid" comes from, who knows? 
>|> 
>Just so there are no loose threads hanging: Enid is a fairly common
>woman's name in the UK.  Enid Blyton was a famous writer of children's
>books (don't go looking for her stuff, though, it's unadulterated
>drivel).
>-- 

Whoops, I don't mean where did the *name* come from, but 
what hurricane/typhoon/etc... list is it from?

--mkp

Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: gerard@caliban.soest.hawaii.edu (Gerard Fryer)
Subject: Re: Hurricanes in Pacific; Iniki etymology
Organization: Scum Of the Earth and Senile Tenured
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:20:27 GMT

|> >What is the origin of the name Iniki? It sounds polynesian. A goddess
|> >of some sort?
|> >
|>  Iniki is the Hawaiian version of Enid. There are certain rules
|>  for making Hawaiian names from English names, eg. Samuel becomes Kamuela. 
|> 
|>  Now where "Enid" comes from, who knows? 
|> 
Just so there are no loose threads hanging: Enid is a fairly common
woman's name in the UK.  Enid Blyton was a famous writer of children's
books (don't go looking for her stuff, though, it's unadulterated
drivel).
-- 
Gerard Fryer  (g.fryer@soest.hawaii.edu)
School of Ocean & Earth Science & Technology
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: rowland@zorba7.larc.nasa.gov (Michael W. Rowland)
Subject: ENV SATELLITE SHUTDOWN IN DEC 1992
Keywords: nasa, environment, meteorology, satellite, ozone, aerosol
Reply-To: rowland@zorba7.larc.nasa.gov (Michael W. Rowland)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA 23681  USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:00:36 GMT

This is a repost of 6 Oct. posting (revised)...

We at Langley Research Center received news on Thursday, October 2,
1992 that NASA intends to shutdown the following satellites in
December to save about $15M:

     NUMBUS-7

     ERBS

     NOAA-9 (partial?)

     NOAA-10 (partial?)

     UARS (SPRING 1993)

Some of the following experiments that will terminate when
their satellites are shutdown are:

     Stratospheric Aerosol Measurement II  (SAM II)

     Earth Radiation Budget Experiment (ERBS) (3)

     Stratospheric Aerosol and Gas Experiment II (SAGE II)
     
     Total Ozone Measurement System (TOMS)

     Halogen Occultation Experiment (HALOE)

     Microwave Limb Sounder (MLS)

No plans have been stated to restart the satellites.

Budget cuts are specified in House Conference Report 102-902
that is attached to HR 5679, Sept. 24, 1992.

Mike Rowland

Mike Rowland, Aerosol Research Branch, MS 475
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA 23681
internet: rowland@zorba7.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: jmasters@engin.umich.edu (Jeffrey Mason Masters)
Subject: Re: archives of Weather Underground?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 13:39:40 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <jhgillespie-121092092751@josquin.ucdavis.edu> jhgillespie@ucdavis.edu (John Gillespie) writes:
>Are the data available on the Weather Underground archived anywhere?
>I am particularly interested in the marine observations (from buoys) for
>the past few days off the California coast.  Thanks.

  TO my knowledge, archived weather data of any sort are not routinely 
available to the public over the internet, unless you want to pay money. In 
that case, NCAR can provide some data via anonymous ftp. Contact 
ilana@ncar.ucar.edu for more information.

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 Jeff Masters  (sdm@madlab.sprl.umich.edu)
 Atmospheric, Oceanic, and Space Sciences
 University of Michigan                         //       Home of the         \\
                                                \\ "The Weather Underground" //
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From: jack@cloud3.met.fsu.edu (JACK)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: Re: Hurricanes in Pacific; Iniki etymology
Summary: Different names for different parts of the ocean
Keywords: Tropical Cyclone Names
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:25:41 GMT
Reply-To: jack@cloud3.met.fsu.edu
Followup-To: sci.geo.meteorology
Organization: FSU-Meteorology Department

In article <81240@ut-emx.uucp>, ben@ut-emx.uucp (Benjamin J. Sloan) writes...
>Hurricane Iniki's visit to Hawaii raised a couple of questions
>I'm sure somebody out there can answer.  First of all, who names
>Pacific storms?  I understand many of the typhoons are referred
>to simply by number.  Who numbers them?  Natl Weather Service (of
>Japan or U.S.)?  Once they grow large they are upgraded to names?
>Who named Iniki?  Also, I thought Pacific storms were always typhoons;
>Atlantic storms always hurricanes.  True?
> 
>What is the origin of the name Iniki? It sounds polynesian. A goddess
>of some sort?
> 

   First of all, tropical cyclones in the Pacific are called typhoons if they
are west of the International Dateline. If they are east of the Dateline they
are called hurricanes. Storms in the Western Pacific are named by the Joint
Typhoon Warning Center, which is an American military unit on Guam. The other
warning centers in the Western Pacific (Japan, Hong Kong, China, etc.) refer 
to the storms by numbers. (An exception to this is the Philippines Meteoro-
logical Service, which has names that are different from those used by JTWC.)
Storms between the Dateline and 140W are named by the Central Pacific Hurri-
cane Center in Honolulu. They use several name lists of Hawaiian names, which
is where the name Iniki came from. Storms east of 140W are named by the Nation-
al Hurricane Center in Miami, which has its own set of names for that area.

   As with all tropical storms, a name is assigned if the maximum sustained
winds reach 40 mph. The term hurricane or typhoon is used once the winds reach
75 mph.

Jack Beven
FSU Dept. of Meteorology
jack@cloud3.met.fsu.edu
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: zari@math.ethz.ch (Alain Zarinelli)
Subject: European "DUAT"?!
Keywords: weather for pilots
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:44:11 GMT

Hello everybody,

   I'm quite new to this group (up to now I just read the rec.aviation.*
stuff; time, ya know...:-) ) so perhaps this is in the FAQ, but *I*
didn't find it.
   I was wondering if there exists in Europe something like a DUAT
system providing METARs and TAFs for flight planning purposes. If not,
wouldn't it be a good idea to "create" such a system!?

   What do YOU meteo-folks ;-) think of that?

						Alain.
--
Alain Zarinelli                                            (PPL-CVFR/NVFR)
zari@math.ethz.ch                                                         
zari@astro.phys.ethz.ch               "If God had meant man to fly ---
zari@czheth5a.bitnet                   He would have given him more money"
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: charles@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Stephen Charles)
Subject: SVP formula
Keywords: Saturation vapour pressure
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:23:04 GMT




Could anyone provide a reference for the derivation of the formula for
Saturation Vapour Pressure presented in Appendix A of WMO #49 Technical
Regulations, 1, WMO, Geneva, 1988.

I believe it is an updated form of the Goff-Gratch formula.

I am having difficulty interpreting it due to the way it is type-set in
the above reference.

Thanks,

Steve

--
Stephen Charles (WPS)          charles@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au
"So don't complain about your useless employment, jack it in forever
 tonight, or shut your mouth and pretend you enjoy it, think of all
 the money you've got" ("Clash City Rockers" - Strummer/Jones)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: jeff@louie.mcduck (Jeff Ward)
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES
Reply-To: jeff@louie.mcduck
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 15:34:58 GMT


..And I can remember the 'good ole days' when Meteorology involved talking about
the weather ....

Jeff Ward, N4TRY
FSU Dept. of Meteorology
Tallahassee, FL
From: novak@vitruvius.ar.utexas.edu (Marcos Novak)
Newsgroups: sci.comp-aided
Subject: ANNOUNCING: New Graduate Program in Architecture+Art+Technology
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:02:40 GMT
Organization: School of Architecture, University of Texas at Austin
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1b3
From: cellis@eng.auburn.edu (Charles Ellis)
Newsgroups: sci.comp-aided
Subject: GDSII to CIF conversion
Keywords: gdsii,cif,conversion,cad
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:26:06 GMT
Reply-To: cellis@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

I'm looking for public domain software to convert GDSII ( stream )
files to CIF. It needs to be able to handle polygons and angles.
I cannot use magic since it would mess up my angles. If you can 
help please send E-mail message. Thanks, Charles Ellis
                                        cellis@eng.auburn.edu
From: twarnow@cs.sandia.gov (Tandy Warnow)
Newsgroups: sci.comp-aided
Subject: Announcement of Workshop on Algorithms for Molecular Sequence Alignment
Summary: Nov. 5 and 6, 1992, in Albuquerque, NM
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:52:49 GMT
Organization: Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, NM


                      Tutorial and Workshop on
             Algorithms for Molecular Sequence Alignment


                         Nov. 5 - 6, 1992
              University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM

Sandia National Laboratories and the Computer Science Department at 
the University of New Mexico are pleased to announce a tutorial and 
workshop on {\em Algorithms for Molecular Sequence Alignment}, to be 
held on Nov. 5 and 6, 1992, at the University of New Mexico, in 
Albuquerque, NM.  The tutorial is designed to introduce the problem 
of molecular sequence alignment, while the workshop will focus on new 
algorithmic techniques for this fundamental problem in computational 
biology.  The tutorial and workshop will be free and open to the public.
Graduate students and postdocs are especially encouraged to attend.

Thursday, Nov. 5: Tutorial


       Topics to be covered include:
            biological background, optimal pairwise alignments,
            global and local alignment, suboptimal pairwise alignments,
            distance vs. similarity, scoring matrices, database searching, 
            and multiple alignment: trees and profiles.

 Instructor: Martin Vingron
             Department of Mathematics
             University of Southern California


Friday, Nov. 6:  Workshop

Lectures: 


"On Suboptimal Alignments of Biological Sequences" 
        Dalit Naor
        Department of Biochemistry
        Stanford University

"Multiple Alignment with Guaranteed Error Bounds" 
        Pavel Pevzner
        Department of Computer Science
        Pennsylvania State University

"Scoring Systems for Macromolecular Sequence Comparison"
        Stephen Altschul
        National Institute of Health

Title to be announced
        John Kececioglu
        Department of Computer Science
        University of California at Davis


"Analysis and Biological Evaluation of Parametric Sequence Alignments"
        Martin Vingron
        Department of Mathematics
        University of Southern California


"Dinucleotide Simple Sequence Repeats in Human DNA"
        David Torney
        Los Alamos National Laboratories

"3-D Profile Method and its Application in Protein Secondary Structure Prediction"
        Kam Zhang
        Molecular Biology Institute
        University of California at Los Angeles


For further information, please contact Tandy Warnow at (505) 845-7604
or by email at twarnow@cs.sandia.gov.
Newsgroups: sci.econ,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa.misc
From: ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser)
Subject: Meanwhile, in DC-Occupied America...
Organization: TECHNET, Singapore
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:35:16 GMT


This year, the economy of Thailand grew an estimated 7.6%.

Meanwhile, in DC-occupied America, the "recovery" drags on.