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From: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Subject: Re: CAP 6.0: Ultrix-net-cisco-net-FastPath-LocalTalk
Reply-To: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:39:55 GMT
Keywords: cap fastpath cisco ultrix localtalk tunnel phaseII

In article <1992Aug18.130349.11236@news.uit.no>, torstein.meyer@itek.norut.no
 (Torstein Meyer) wrote:
)	  IP:192.135.200.0		     IP:192.135.199.0 / EtherTalk:2-2
)-----T-------thinether---------T-	-T-------thinether------T------
)     Ip.30			Ip.10	 Ip.10			Ip.70 Et.224
) DECstation 5125	       Cisco MGS Router        Kinetics FastPath 8.0.1
) Ultrix 4.2c, CAP 6.0 patch 125     :				At.253
)				     :      -----localtalk------T------
)				     :	      AppleTalk:1020
)			       Cisco MGS Router
)				     Ip.10   IP:192.135.201.0 / EtherTalk:1-1
)				    -T-----------thinether------T------
)								Ip.77 Et.??
)						       Kinetics FastPath 8.0.1
)								At.253
)					    -----localtalk------T------
)					      AppleTalk:1010

>how do I communicate with the remote LocalTalk segment through our
>Cisco router and FastPath?

There are two options.	The first is the setup CAP to speak EtherTalk 2
and configure the cisco's to route EtherTalk 2 among all their ports.
The second is to setup CAP to speak IPTalk and configure the FastPath's
to speak IPTalk to the CAP host.

Which of the two options you should use depends very much on your
local situation.

>Do my CAP applications have to run on the same network as the FastPath?

Not necessarily.  Although it would be much simpler if that's the case.

>Could I possibly 'tunnel' AppleTalk packets from net#1020 to net#1010?

Yes.

...Sam
--
<skl@wimsey.bc.ca>
From: jaanak@garnet.berkeley.edu (Jaana Terhikki Karttunen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Multiple LAP connections
Date: 19 Aug 1992 23:10:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

	I'm fooling around with trying to establish 
multiple Link Access Protocols (LAP's) connections
 on one mac
at the same time (e.g. ethernet and localtalk).
I know this is possible, after all it's what 
Apple's Internet Router does, but I can't
find any good documentation on it (I even
looked at a friends copy of Apple's "Ethernet
and alternate LAP connections" or some-such
title). 

	Is this at all possible? Or rather,
since I know it is possible, does Apple
acknowledge how to do it? 

	Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: J045820@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: cap60 on Sun Sparc2
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:09:37 GMT

Am attempting to implement cap60 software on a Sparc2 for the purpose
of printing to applelaser writers. In the readme files several bridges
and gateways are mentioned. I am assuming  that these
bridges would only be needed if the Sun and the Printer were on different
ethernets. Is this correct or are they needed to do some type of prorocol
conversion between the Sun and the printer. I am assuming the cap60
software does the conversions. Any information would be apreciated.
                               Billy Smith (LMSC)
From: kamath@pogo.wv.tek.com (Sean Kamath)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Dual Interfaces on a Sparc IPX
Keywords: interfaces, two
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:24:21 GMT
Reply-To: kamath@catenary.WV.TEK.COM
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.,  Wilsonville, OR

Hello.  I don't read this newsgroup, so if you would be so kind as to e-mail
me a response, I would sure appreciate it.  Also, forgive me if this is a
FAQ, but I did not see it in the FAQ for CAP.

I have an IPX with two ethernet boards in it.  I'd like to use EtherTalk
Phase 2 on each interface, *WITHOUT* routing.  We have all the routing we
need between networks (several) but to handle the massive traffic from
multi-megabyte files being printed to appletalk printers, I'd like to save
the routers a little trouble and just print to either network directly.

I.e.  I have net A and net B, and I want the Unix Machines on net A to send
files to the Net A address of the IPX, and I want the Unix Machines on net B
to send files to the Net B address of the IPX.  That's no problem with IP.
But, I want the files to go out the right port.  I.e., if I have a printer
on net A, I want the file to be printed (with papif) via the Net A interface
on the IPX, and ditto for net B.

Unfortunately, when I try and get aarpd to run on le0, and then on le1, I
get "can't start ZIS. . ." and things go crazy.

If *absolutely* necessary, I can seed one (or both) of the ports, though I
*REALLY* don't want do this.  Since the etalk.local files starts with

interface	"le0"

I assume (probably incorrectly) that you could have multiple interfaces.

Anyway, thanks for any help anyone can throw my way.

Oh, and by the way, it works just fine on a single ethernet.

Sean Kamath
kamath@pogo.wv.tek.com
SysAdmin
GPID
Tektronix, Inc. Wilsonville
Wilsonville, OR 97070
(503) 685-3399
From: add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Network Utilities, which are good?
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:07:11 GMT
Organization: Rice University

I saw an ad for Techworks Net Utilities and was wondering how good it
was, when I realized I didn't know how good many of the AppleTalk
Network utilites are.  I am going to purchace one or two of them, so if
someone could send me some recommendations, I would appreciate it.

-- 
Darren Dunham                 		          add@is.rice.edu
MicroConsultant                       		  Rice University
(What is that? A small consultant?)	              Houston, TX
Any resemblance between real opinions and my post is coincidental
From: msmith@crc.ac.uk (Mike Smith x3297)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Mac routing between TCP/IP and Mac
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:36:26 GMT
Reply-To: msmith@crc.ac.uk (Mike Smith x3297)
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre

We have the papif software from CAP version 5 to drive a LaserWriter via a
Kinetics Fastpath. This setup has worked well for a number of years now.

One of our users has a Mac which is connected directly to the ethernet and
which has its own printer connected via localtalk.

Is there any routing software available for either System 6 or System 7 which
will allow the Mac to route packets between the ethernet and the localtalk
so that papif can drive that printer too?

I hope this question doesn't show up my ignorance of Mac affairs too much.

Thanks in advance.

Mike Smith
-- 
Computing Services, Clinical Research Centre and   
Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre,     Internet:   m.smith@crc.ac.uk
Watford Rd, HARROW, Middx, HA1 3UJ                Janet:      m.smith@uk.ac.crc
Tel +44 81-869 3297 Fax +44 81-423 1275   Usenet ...!mcsun!uknet!mrccrc!m.smith
From: horde@reed.edu (Mr. Heiji Horde)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: How to kill CAP programs cleanly?
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:16:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug12.181640.10996
Organization: Twisted Genius Rehabilitation Center, a Division of MHE

In article <85996@netnews.upenn.edu> syen@jupiter.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>	Hi! How do I kill lwsrv and aufs jobs cleanly? Even after doing
>kill -9 <process id> I still see the laserprinter and appleshare server
>on the AppleTalk zone.

BAD!!! EVIL!!! NASTY!!!
Never do a kill -9 unless you have to.

To immediately shutdown an aufs volume, send it a "kill -HUP"
  (same as a kill -1). This will remove it from the appleshare
  as well. Sending a plain "kill" will start a 5 minute shutdown
  count.
Same thing for the lwsrv process. Send it a "kill -HUP" and it
  should disappear from both sides.

	-Heiji
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   All insane acts are done in affiliation with Madd Hacker Enterprises
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From: makmur@newcs.rutgers.edu (Hanz Makmur)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Comments on Intercon's NFS/share
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:44:13 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
To: jeff@digtype.airage.com

In article <0105002B.b6hrjn@digtype.airage.com> Jeff@digtype.airage.com (Jeff Wasilko) writes:

> We're looking for a good, solid file service solution for our Macs
> from a Sun 4/630. We've looked at both uShare from IPT and EtherShare
> from Helios, and have not been overly impressed by either.
> 
> How is NFS/share? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff
> 
> --
> Jeff's Oasis at Home.                   Jeff can also be reached at work at:
> (note address change to jeff@digtype.airage.com)        jwasilko@airage.com
> A man walks into a crowded theater and shouts, "ANYBODY WANT TO BUY A CAR?"
> The crowd stands up and shouts back, "WRONG THEATER!" -Edward Vielmetti

I have 2 copies of NFS/Share that I received when I bought Shiva
FastPath5s. When I received the copy, it was an old version and when I
called Intercon about upgrade, I got a very good respond. A week or
so, after I registered the program, I received an update version 1.1.1 free.

I installed NFS/Share 1.1.1 immidiately discovered conflict with
my PageMaker file. It scared me for a while because my perfectly done
pagemaker file is no longer openable and the error says it was
damaged. When I removed NFS/Share and restarted my mac, PageMaker did not
complain and my file opened with no problem. So I dump the NFS/Share
into my Trash can and keep the original program somewhere in my BUGGY
box. I have not used it since then and told everyone this same story.

What scared me most is the possibility that other programs may also
have conflict with NFS/Share and there is no way for me to find out.
Imagine finding out in the morning that your file is DAMAGED and you
need it.

I contacted Intercon and apparently Intercon already knew about the
problem but FAILED to inform its users or provide update.

That was the beginning of 1992. I am still waiting for upgrade and a
working version of NFS/Share.

Hanz Makmur
Rutgers University
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: cvogel@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Christopher P. Vogel)
Subject: LaserWriter NTR
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: Internet
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 23:04:32 GMT

We have CAP6.0pl100 running on a SPARC2 (SunOS 4.1.1).  When using the
getzones command, I am able to see every LaserWriter Printer (NTX's, IIg's,
Plus, etc..), but a LaserWriter NTR.  Does anyone know of something different
about the Laserwriter NTR that would cause it not to appear from CAP's
perspective.  Note: The NTR does appear in Chooser on the Mac's. Thanks 
in advance for any help.

Chris Vogel
cvogel@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com

-- 
Chris Vogel
cvogel@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: rob@mother.bates.edu (Rob Spellman)
Subject: Re: Routing between Appletalk (LocalTalk) and Ethertalk
Organization: Bates College, Lewiston, ME
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:28:40 GMT
Keywords: appletalk ethertalk

>In <1992Aug20.151239.1864@mother.bates.edu> I wrote:

>What devices are available for routing packets between Appletalk and
>Ethertalk?

My mistake; what I really want is to route between localtalk and
ethernet.  We currently have some Cayman Gatorboxs, which we use to
connect our localtalk networks to our campus ethernet.  We don't need
all of the services that the Gatorbox provides.  I was wondering if there
were devices that didn't come with all the thrill and price of a gatorbox.

-- 
Rob Spellman
rob@mother.bates.edu
Computing Support Services
Bates College
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: tom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tom Easterday)
Subject: Re: Getting printing from mac to Sun working
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:37:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.162819.25782@phri.nyu.edu> roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
>tom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tom Easterday) writes:
>> My immediate problem is that lwsrv (if that is the right thing to be doing)
>> will not run.  It complains about not begin able to find/use some font files
>> or proc files or something like that.
>
>	I don't mean to sound pompus or anything, but can you try and give
>us a bit more of a clue?  One of my pet peeves doing "help desk" kind of
>stuff is people make you try and guess exactly what they did and what
>happened.  What exactly was the error message you got?  How did you run
>lwsrv, i.e. what arguments did you give it?  What sort of system are you
>running it on?  You said a sparcstation, but what model and what version of
>the OS are you running?
>
>	Imagine if you went to the doctor and told him, "sometimes, when I
>do something, I get a kind of pain" and expect the doctor to figure out
>what's wrong with you.
>-- 

Yeah, you're right.  I was just at the end of my rope at that point and
really didn't want to look back at the logs.  I got part of it working, though,
with the help of Kelly Price (thanks!) who explained what the fonts file
and procset are.  

The mac now sees the printer and sends the file off to the sparc (IPC, 4.1.2)
and then it gets forwarded to the other sparc (2, 4.1.1) where it sits in the
queue for a few seconds and then disappears.  Apparently the file has no
line delimiters in it and the transcript filter drops it.  The printer log
file shows:


>Input line longer than 255 characters; only first 255 characters significant!
>%%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: setdefaulttimeouts ]%%
>%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
>psif: end - Tue Aug 18 14:28:38 1992

The printer is an HP LaserJet III with an HP LaserJet Postscript cartridge
in it.  

Should it be pumped through a different filter?  Papif does not appear
to be the right thing.  According to the man page it is used if the 
printer is on an appletalk network.  Is there something in the transcript
filter that can be adjusted?  Am I way out in left field?

	Thanks,
	     Tom

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: hubbell@gumby.dsd.trw.com (Steve Hubbell)
Subject: ASPGetStatus call..
Organization: TRW INC., Redondo Beach CA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:14:27 GMT

I am having some problems with an ASPGetStatus call that I am hoping is
easy to be resolved.  Looking at Inside Macintosh and the on-line
documentation, it looks like ASPGetStatus is expecting:

--> 26  csCode  	word
--> 30  aspTimeout 	byte
--> 31  aspRety         byte
--> 32  serverAddr      long word
<-> 38  rbSize          word
--> 40  rbPtr		pointer
--> 50  ccbStart        record

where ASPGetStatus is defined as:
pascal OSErr ASPGetStatus(XPPParmBlkPtr thePBptr,Boolean async)

Well, my problem is that XPPParmBlkPtr has no provisions for serverAddr.
It does not seem to match what ASPGetStatus is expecting.  Is this a known
problem?  How should I go about avoiding this problem?

Thanks for any help/suggestions!
Steve
(hubbell@gumby.dsd.trw.com)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: mclagan@sfu.ca (Scott McLagan)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: What is an Overrun Error
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:00:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

We have an AppleTalk network running on PhoneNet (LocalTalk) and 
coax (EtherTalk) cabling with Gatorbox routers. I'm concerned about 
"Overrun" error rates. I had Peek listen to 15,000 packets. Error counts 
were Overruns = 2254 (that's about 15%), CRC = 0 and Time Outs = 0. 
I'm happy with the last two, but I'm wondering about the Overruns.

Could someone tell me what an Overrun is, whether I should be concerned,
and if so, how to reduce them?
 
Most gratefully,
 
Scott
smclagan@fraser.sfu.ca
From: kopp@esmlsun.gatech.edu (Mike Kopp)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: papif/atlook problems
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:55:40 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

We are using CAP60.pl100 on our Sun IPX for aufs and papif.  We use native
ethertalk with the /dev/nit interface.  Over the last few weeks I've
noticed a problem with papif finding the LaserWriters.  According to the
log files, the LaserWriter is not being found the first time papif looks
for it.  papif keeps trying and generally finds it the second or third
time.  In trying to figure out what is going on I ran atlook and atloolws. 
They show a similar problem, most of the time they return nothing like
nothing was found on the network but occasionally (maybe once in 5 tries)
they do find things.  I used the cap debugging flags and found out that
they were timing out when nothing was found but increasing the timeout from
3/4 of a second to 1 minute did not improve the results.

aufs and atis seem to work fine.  Anyone have any ideas as to the problem
or suggestions for me to try to narrow the problem down?
-----------
Mike Kopp                                    email addresses:
Electronic Support Measures Laboratory   	       kopp@esmlsun.gatech.edu
Georgia Tech Research Institute 	       	       	mk8@prism.gatech.edu
From: chang@eagle-bb.ee.QueensU.CA (Lu Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: HP750 - CAP6.0 - LW IIg
Keywords: CAP6.0
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:24:18 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Queen's University, Kingston, Ontario, Canada


I am considering to put the LaserWriter IIg onto the ethernet using
CAP6.0.  Now my questions are:

1.  Can I use put CAP on my HP750(with HPUX8.07) to administrate the
    printing?

2.  Do I need additional hardwares such as gateways other than a 
    tranceiver to connect the IIg to the physical ethernet?

3.  Do I need all the patches in order to print just documents?  

Any help will be appreciated.


Lu Chang
chang@ee.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: philc@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Phil Corchary)
Subject: Re: Do not buy the Asante SCSI ethernet adapter
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     <1992Aug14.175529.15858@midway.uchicago.edu>
     <1992Aug14.195603.22439@magnus.acs.ohiostate.edu>
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:02:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.204948.22177@midway.uchicago.edu> JohnC,
jcav@quads.uchicago.edu writes:
>>are the only problem, and as far as I know those problems are solved.
> ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^
>I assert that this is a fairly substantial "only problem".
>
>>The new drivers (Universal 4.1, or En/Sc 2.0) work fine on all systems,
all 
>>configurations we've tried here (about a dozen or more).
>
>I haven't tried Universal 4.1, since we just use the Apple software.
>However, EN/SC 2.0 _did not_ eliminate the lockup problem on the PB170.
>As I stated in my earlier article, we have given up on the EN/SC.


Wow .. that's quite a thread!

I have to say that I haven't experienced ANY of the problems that I'm
hearing!

We have at least 30 Mac clients (SE's, SE/30's, PowerBooks) on our 10bT
network using Asante EN/SC devices using the 1.25 drivers ... in fact that
is what I am on NOW. Other than some incopatabilites with some hard drive
drivers (MicroNet, Hammer especially) ... that can be fixed with new HD
drivers, we've had very good luck and experience with the Asante EN/SC.

I will be interested however to get the new 4.1/2.0 drivers.

Like others who commented, we have very good lock with the NuBus cards
from Asante .. and we use the Apple Drivers exclusively.

philc
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From: Jeff@digtype.airage.com (Jeff Wasilko)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Comments on Intercon's NFS/share
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 23:44:52 EST
Organization: Univ of Fnord; Roslyn's Cafe Div.
Reply-To: jeff@digtype.airage.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


We're looking for a good, solid file service solution for our Macs
from a Sun 4/630. We've looked at both uShare from IPT and EtherShare
from Helios, and have not been overly impressed by either.

How is NFS/share? 

Thanks,

Jeff

--
Jeff's Oasis at Home.                   Jeff can also be reached at work at:
(note address change to jeff@digtype.airage.com)        jwasilko@airage.com
A man walks into a crowded theater and shouts, "ANYBODY WANT TO BUY A CAR?"
The crowd stands up and shouts back, "WRONG THEATER!" -Edward Vielmetti
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Joe Niski <niski@ssd.intel.com>
Subject: Re: MacTCP & ARA ?
Organization: Intel Supercomputer Systems Division
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:23:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.225232.2756@bnr.ca> Ben Schmidt, bschmidt@bnr.ca
writes:
>Subject: Re: MacTCP & ARA ?
>From: Barry Kort, barry@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu
>Date: 10 Aug 92 22:02:29 GMT
>In article <BARRY.92Aug10180229@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu> Barry Kort,
>barry@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu writes:
>>If you plan to use MacTCP via ARA, then do not also install MacTCP
>>on the machine acting as the ARA Server.  Perhaps in a future
>>release it will be possible for both the ARA Server and its ARA
>>Clients to run MacTCP, but at present only one of them can be using
>>MacTCP.
>
>Huh!? 
>
>Jamey's scenario works fine - with one minor caution. Use "Server"
>mode acquisition of IP addresses on the Remote Mac's MacTCP.
>(And of course ensure that the FastPath is configured to hand out
>at least some of the IP addresses it's administering dynamically.)
>Save yourself some aggrevation and don't bother trying to get a static
>IP address to work on an ARAP-Remoted Mac.
>

Where's the aggravation?  Dynamic IP addressing isn't allowed here, and
an increasing number of ARAP'ed Macs are using things like Eudora and
NCSA Telnet.  i guess it could get more difficult as the number of Macs
goes up.

---------------------------------------------
Joe Niski                                          niski@ssd.intel.com
Macintosh Network Admin.
Intel Supercomputer Systems Division
Beaverton, OR USA
From: mclagan@sfu.ca (Scott McLagan)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: error conditions and diagnostic procedures
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:34:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I'm not sure if I posted this message properly the first time so
I'll try again...

I'm concerned about "Overrun" error rates. I had Peek listen to 
15,000 packets on our network. Error counts were Overruns = 2254 
(that's about 15%), CRC = 0 and Time Outs = 0. I'm happy with the 
last two, but I'm wondering about the Overruns.

Could someone tell me what an Overrun is, whether I should be concerned,
and if so, how to reduce them?

Or, I'd appreciate recommendations for books which explain network
problems and diagnostic procedures related to AppleTalk.

Most gratefully,
 
Scott
smclagan@fraser.sfu.ca
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:57:20 EDT
From: <BDS2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject:    Help with TCP/IP on IBM PC over Localtalk cards

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