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From: royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Daniel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Ghost Rider
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:45:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Universite de Montreal

I just stopped collecting Ghost Rider. In fact, I think GR stopped being great
since issue #25. Issue #24 was the best.

They turned GR into yet another Marvel's senseless superhero. It is now lost.

They haven't got the right to hint at the return of Deathwatch, damnit! Dead is
dead.

IMHO, Ghost Rider was once the best, but it is now at the bottom of Marvel's
stables.


Daniel Roy
for the "Voyageurs sans Permis"
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From: djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young)
Subject: Re: thor
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:44:55 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1e9aukINNj6b@male.EBay.Sun.COM> zombie@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>

Wait a minute.  Something is not right here.  You say:
>1.  Thor kills Loki
>2.  Odin banishes Thor
>3.  Loki channels into Odin, who is in Odinsleep.
>
>Either A)  Odin banished Thor while in Odinsleep?? or B)  Loki must hang
>out somewhere, out of body, until Odin Odinsleeps??  How can either of
>these be?
>
>zombie
>
>
>---

Well the answer is that Loki possessed Odin's body, with the help of Karnilla.
Odin's soul was captured by Mephisto in the the soul shroud with Thor's 
picture.  Somehow Loki obtained all of the Odin power.  Second, it was Heimdall that banished Thor with a fraction of Thor Odinpower that Odin gave him while
he slept.  So Loki took over Odin's body.  right now Loki doesn't have a 
at all, pretty sure he'll find one though.

the Mighty Joe Young

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From: teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero)
Subject: Re: Morbius (was Strange Things Afoot in Marvel...) 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:21:33 GMT

barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:

>>>Morbius #5.........
>> Hey I Think that Morbius is a pretty darn good comic.  Howard Mackie is one
>> of my favorite writers.  The art in this book has been great.  I think that
> Bret Blevins is awesome at drawing a dark and grim New York. The seen at the 
>> end of #5 left me waiting.  The Basilisk is an interesting concept for a 
>> villian. 

	Did they resurrect the old Basilisk (the one that was killed by
Scourge) or is this a new one?  What with recycling being the in thing and all
it should be done with names too...
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From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Nigh Invulnerable
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:39:04 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

>>Sorry, Dave, but Caliban is *also* *Nigh* Invulnerable.  Said so himself in
>>a New Mutants issue.  One of the Leifeld.  *ick*
>>August Paul Yang continues to steal Dave's .sig style
> All that shows is that Caliban is invulnerable to Fromage.
>      Dave Van Domelen, but I use a comma and you don't....

	Dave, what is your fixation with cheese?  I am just curious, its  
either PAX ROMANO  (peace of Cheese) or your fromage references.  It sounds
very unhealthy.  (lots of cholesteroles and stuffs!)  

							wReam...

P.S.  To all those who just had to hit the "n" key I say "PHBTHBPPBBTHTT!!!"

P.P.S.  I think I must be terminally bored cuz I just posted to alt.ketchup!

P.P.P.S.  :)
From: isaac@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Jim Lee rips off Frank Miller??
Date: 16 Nov 1992 01:04:10 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


Has anyone else seen the art from Jim Lee's upcoming character, to appear
in DARKER IMAGE (assuming Image still exists by then)?  If you haven't
check COMIC SHOP NEWS #281, with DOOM: 2099 on the cover.  On the first
page, in the upper lefthand corner, there's a clip from it.

Lee has seemingly forsaken his much-imitated "little lines" style, and has
opted for a style that's just like the one Frank Miller used on SIN CITY!
The picture they have here is all shadows and black areas, and no lines,
just like Miller has been doing.  The character shown is a typical Jim Lee
ultra-macho Punisher-looking character, of course, but the style is so
Miller it's amazing/pathetic.

What's it all mean, friends?  In a world where crazy styles seem to be major
selling points, where have we come to when anybody who feels like can cop
someone else's style and make themselves more money out of the imitation?
The sad thing to me is that Jim Lee will probably sell a lot more comics 
using this style than SIN CITY ever did.  I just don't know -- where's the
art in comics now?

Im hoping someone just screwed up and this picture is really just a cover
Frank Miller did for the DARKER IMAGE book -- I really am.  There's no
signature on the picture, just a "TM&(C)1992 Jim Lee" next to it... 
pant pant pant ... maybe... eh eh... maybe it's all a big joke, yeah... heh...
that must be it... heh! heheh! eh eh eh eh...
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (MikEscutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Names 2099
Date: 14 Nov 1992 22:03:13 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <1992Nov14.204735.53495@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN) writes:
>>------SCAVENGER 2099
>
>    Who is one who names himself after that horrible Lee-Ryan creation to talk
>about "style over substance"?
>-- 
Who said he named himself after Ravage 2099.  Scav's just spoofing the 2099 
line.  Right, Scav?
						--MikE 2099


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From: ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher D Tatro)
Subject: Re: Get rid of the Legion of Net Heroes.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:21:07 GMT

Okay, folks, enough's enough. You've all had your fun, now put the goddam flame
throwers away and go back to analyzing left diagonal slashes in Sandman or 
something.

Dave said it a few dozen posts back, there's more shit on whether LNH should be
here or not than anything else (I forgot to get exact numbers. will do 
tomorrow).

How about this Jim guy and a representative from LNH (Scav or someone) write to
each other in civilized email and stop tying up the net.  When the two of them 
have reached an agreement on what to do about LNH, they will then post to .misc
and let us all know. No mess, no angry words, no worn out 'n' keys.  Just 
settle things like civilized people.  Didn't we evolve from bone-toting apes 
for a reason?

It is an odd feeling to be the one trying to inject reason into a situation.
"But someone's got to do it, don't you see? Someone's got to save the world!"

kristoff
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From: sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG)
Subject: Elektra and Frank Miller ..
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 18 Nov 1992 12:29 EST  

Hi,

I was wondering:  Does the Elektra character belong to Frank Miller.  I 
would not have thought so since she was created in the pages of Daredevil, 
but I think most of Miller's work on the character was under Epic, Marvel's 
creator-owned line of books.  What's the scoop?

 - Wayne. 
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    W     A     Y     N     E     .     A     .     W     O     N     G
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From: mkelly@chaucer.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman: latest Doomsday disappointment
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:19:39 GMT
Reply-To: mkelly@chaucer.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


 jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:

|> Doomsday is *incredibly* strong, and it appears that his powers might
|> have some psychic source as well since he seems resistance to such attacks.
|> However, if you'd like to get an idea of how tough this can be, go find a 
|> feral cat somewhere, grab it, and try to hold it over your head for a minute.
|> You're way stronger than a cat, but I bet that your hands will be a bloody
|> mess before 10 seconds are up, and the cat will be running away. Even if 
|> you don't get clawed, you're going to find it hard to keep a firm grip on the
|> cat.

I think that if the fate of innocent civilians depended on me holding the 
feral cat in the way you describe, I'm sure any of us could find the 
determination to do it, but maybe that's only because we are the LNH! (fanfare)

just kidding ;)

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
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+ mkelly@doc.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                    + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: pjharris@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: I do/don't/maybe like Image...
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:19:01 GMT

Time for me to spout...grab an umbrella.

"Literature is stories without Art, Art is stories without Literture"

Anyone notice that comics, the full gamut of'em , fall inbetween the two?

I was reading comics before most of you knew to pull in your wee-wee's
before zipping up.  I have seen some INANE storyline's and art that
would make DaVinci explode in his crypt from the BIG ONE's, that includes
recently.  Image is of no different caliber than any of those.  I LIKE
Image, I also like Aspargus with hollandaise.

One poster stated that a book shouldn't be expected to be great in the
first few issues.  This could be true. Homer's Illyad was dismissed for
over 230 years before it wes deamed marvelous.  It leaves the reader with
a sense of "this could be better...this will get better."  However, if the
book is below the status of Saddam Hussein's rectal polyps, then that
leaves the reader with "........................."  Exactly.

Wait for things at Image to congeal.  Image was given the same hype and
hoopla as, say, Vertigo is now.  I expect Vertigo to be given a royal
raking as soon as a typo is found in issue #3 of whatever.

As for being investments.  Do you, the reading public, buy your comics, read
them 8, 9, 10......4 million times and then "GASPS OF GASPS!!!" toss'em?
Give'em (read ---GIVE---) to your little brother/sister/pet simian? No.
Just like that seven billion watt microwave you bought to nuke untold bags
of popcorn, you INVESTED your hard earned cash into something you're
gonna keep around for a while.  Period.  You may not have started out with
investment in mind, but it was there in the back of your mind.  Back to
Image: I buy them to read AND as an investment...the sories will get better
the art will get better...and they will gain in value.

A friend of mine put it so eloquently:
"In 10 years, we'll all look back on this Image thing and say to ourselves
'What the hell were we thinking of...it's the Disco of of the 90's'".  I'd
like to extend that to all of'em.  Hey, how many 12 year olds ou there are 
reading Antigone?  Exactly.

Buy'em, read'em, keep'em or sell'em.  Easy, ain't it.....


I'm like Jack the Bear...outta here.
Peace


PJH
From: eja@carr3.acpub.duke.edu (Eric Akawie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC: where Metropolis is
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:25:25 GMT

As far as I can figure, besides his obvious super strength, endurance,
resistance to energy rays, etc.  Doomsday has two unique powers:

1)A low level psionic field that causes everyone around him to act 
incredibly stupid.  (My favorite, in Adventures of Superman, I believe,
we have Supes himself saying, (and I paraphrase)  "Hm, just hitting him isn't
doing anything.  Maybe if I hit him _with_ something..."  Real tactical genius,
huh.?

2)The power to kill Superman.  


eja@acpub.duke.edu
Eric Akawie; Freelance Messiah
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: I want Giffen's JLA back!
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 01:55:43 EST

  In the threads about Death of Superman, there has been some references
to JLA; how they should have contacted JLE, or how incompetent JLA was.
I just want to bitch somewhat about the state of JLs, (JLA in particular).
I LIKED Giffen's JLA.  It was actually funny and irrelevant.
The current JLA just seems like fifth Superman title.  Yes, I like Jurgen's
art, but sense of humor and weird personalities seems to be missing, and
I really miss them.  Hell, if JLA is to be a bunch of incompetents, then
at least let them be amusing incompetents.
 
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:08:56 EST
From: <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Pre-bagged comics(Was:Re:Superman is in the bag... sort of)

Bagging non-pre-bagged comics?
I think the gist was that the plastic used in polybagging comics issues by
different companies is a cheaper kind than the standard 100-bag packs that
are sold at comic stores.  I have read at one point that even these standard-
issue bags will accelerate deterioration of the comic, but this was from some
some company selling mylars or something at a special price.  I don't think we
can give much credence to that.  I really don't know the long-term effects of,
say, ComiCovers (which I buy) on comics.  Geez, I always thought that protected
the comic!  After all, that's what I bought them for...  I can't think of the
horror-filled day it would be unbagging my umpteen boxes worth of comics!
Please, somebody, ease my pain and tell me that those "100% virgin
polyethylene bags are OK!!                 -----Eric Sansoni
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: whelal@engr.UVic.CA (Wael  Helal)
Subject: Re: SUPERHEROES FREEZE OFF THEIR BUMS!
Reply-To: whelal@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 06:21:34 GMT

Kevlar only prevents a bullet from pentrating by spreading out the force of the impact so there isn't a large bloody hole. But the impact is viscous you can still by if the bullet breaks a rib and sends it into your lung or heart. Batman wears an emblem on his chest because thats where all the shots will go when he suprises a gunman and thats were its the most armoured. TO protect his head Batman would have to wear a metal headpiece made out of ceramic titanium or something like that. As for Batman freezin



g his buns off what about training to withstand the cold or a special lining of his costume that protects him from the cold.
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Why do people HATE Image?
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:55:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>  Is it because your favorite artist left your favorite book?

They were neither my favorite artists nor my favorite books.
Quite the contrary.

> or that you know your favorite artist will never draw any
> Marvel character ever again? (as in mcfarlanes case).

See above.


>  OR do you hate image for not doing anything that couldn't be
> done in a marvel comic?

The stories are hardly innovative, groundbreaking or controversial.  That
is a shortcoming as far as I'm concerned.

Another possibility is that not a single Image member can write a true
sentence, let alone a true word.


> What are your reasons for hating Image?

The books are terrible, plain and simple.  Not only is the material bad, but
the artists have heads the size of hot-air balloons.  (along with the contents)


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From: 003695s@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHANE ANDRE SAVOIE)
Subject: Re: Brainstorm: How DC will bring Superman back from the dead
Keywords: Ressurection Central
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:33:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.222051.2691@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
>Subject: Re: Brainstorm: How DC will bring Superman back from the dead
>Keywords: Ressurection Central
>Date: 16 Nov 92 22:20:51 GMT
>In article <1992Nov16.024109.9539@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime) writes:
>>Jerry Boyajian (namedropping? moi?) and I were sitting around last night,
>>and we figured out how DC (specifically, Warners) would bring Supes back
>>from the dead:
>>
>>    Supergirl (or Matrix, or whateverthehellhernameis) will fly around
>>    the Earth until it rotates in the other direction and reverses time.
>>
>>Damn!  I love continuity!
>
>Hey!  Obscure Trivia Lad gets this joke!

 So does Obsure Trivia Lad Wannabe!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: 50jeanpierre@cua.edu
Subject: artistry
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:47:07 GMT



Hello,

      I am, an aspiring comic book artist and was wondering if there were
anymore out there and if so have you any tips on drawing figures,panels,inking
or what have you.


                             A wacky artist,
                                            Philip Jean-Pierre

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From: j_fitzge@oz.plymouth.edu (Jesse L. Fitzgerald)
Subject: Re: Get rid of the Legion of Net Heroes. 
Reply-To: j_fitzge@oz.plymouth.edu (Jesse L. Fitzgerald)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:16:07 GMT

	Post anything ya want Dave, if other people don't like it they
can just press "k" on their keyboard. This way you don't have to read
the story or any related postings. (I myself love LNH, but I don't get
lnh so this is the only way for me to read it).

	Adding another newsgroup won't help matters any, it'll just
clutter up the system more. My advice to all those who don't like LNH
is to quit complaining and skip over the articles. It's as easy as
pressing the button.

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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC: where Metropolis is
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:49:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: jhunix.1992Nov19.004935.13844
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

Well, according to the DC Heros RPG which I just happen to have in front of
me, Metropolis is in Delaware while Gotham City is across the river in
New Jersey.  I had heard that DC Comics didn't like the fact that Mayfair
gave the location of several important cities in the DC universe thereby
changing hte Locations from "Soft Places" to "Hard" ones.

A little Gaimanspeak there...  :-)
August Paul Yang is beating a dead horse...
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: jdross@mercury.ncat.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Superman
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:03:45 GMT
Organization: North Carolina A&T State University

I don't know about Lobo,but if Guy Gardner didn't get along with
Superman too well, why couldn't he just whip up some kryptonite and
watch him suffer for a little while? 

jdross@garfield.ncat.edu
From: nelson@desktop.nsc.com (Taed Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: "Vaporware" Comics
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:02:54 GMT
Organization: Applications Technology, National Semiconductor (Santa Clara, CA)

> >I'm trying to compile a list of comics announced but never published by major
> >comics companies. I use these terms flexibly, but if I include too many
> >small indpendents, the list will certainly become unmanagable. So far, I've
> >thought of:

Grendel vs. Batman	[Wagner]
Mage II			[Wagner]
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Re: SPEAKING OF SPIDERS...
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:53:24 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <722221729.17@fquest.FidoNet> Omega.Man@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Omega
Man) writes:

>...was it ever revealed just what TYPE of spider bit Peter Parker?

A radioactive one!

:-)

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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman 75 (no spoilers)
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:02:47
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: gt9291b@prism.gatech.EDU's message of 20 Nov 92 17:53:28 GMT

>>>>> On 20 Nov 92 17:53:28 GMT, gt9291b@prism.gatech.EDU (Patrick Aikens) said:

gt9291b> In <1992Nov19.201036.37557@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
gt9291b> ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN) writes:

>Incidentally, it was strange to see that 2 out of 3 comic shops here
>had SOLD OUT of the newsstand version -- the remaining store was
>limiting them to 1 copy per person, whereas the bagged copies were in
>abundance with no limit whatsoever.
>
>Has anyone else noticed this in other areas?

gt9291b> Yeah, my comic shop sold out of it in about 2 hours.  *sigh*

When I got my copy on the 18th, there were at least 30 of the bagged
issue, but the news stand issue was gone...

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