From: fchen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (FuGwo Chen)
Subject: Urgent: Novell, HP3000, NCSA-Telnet, Reflection. Anyone?
Summary: Novell 3.11, HP3000, NCSA-TELNET, HP9000 connection
Keywords: Novell 3.11, HP3000, HP9000, NCSA, TELNET, TCP/IP
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:51:58 GMT

Hi, everyone:
Month ago I have been trying to post the question about Novell Network and
the connection to HP 3000 and HP 9000. For some reason the title and
signature went through, but without content. Took me month of trial and
error, I finally figure out what is wrong for posting. Thanks to Luke
Brennan from Australia to follow up on that and gave me some ideas. 
Here are the question and hope some people can give me some more idea.

University Backbone
--------------------------------------------
    |
  ----------
  |repeater|
  ----------
    |              Kellogg Backbone
----------------------------------------------------------------
       |        |       |              |         |
    HP3000   HP9000  NW 3.11 server    PCs   HP ET HUB
                                            | | | | | |
                                            P P P P P P
                                            C C C C C C
                                            (Diskless Computer Lab)

Hope this give you some general idea what our system look like. HP 3000 is
running MPE/V with HP Network Service and Wollongong loaded. HP9000 is
running HP UX. All the PC in the LAB are using HP EtherTwist 16 bit board.
PCs on the Kellogg Backbone is either using 3C501 or using 16 bit board. I
have try both and the result is the same.

What I would like to accomplished is to:
1) Let the PC in the LAB to be able to login to Novell System (easy part);
2) With the ability to telnet to HP9000 or UNIX machine on the University      
   Backbone. I think I can use the packet driver and NCSA-Telnet to do so;   
   (not difficult);
3) With the ability to connect to HP3000 with TCP/IP or anything that will   
   run the terminal emulation program for HP system (Reflection from WRQ).     
   CONFUSING! (still not difficult).
But when I want everything join together. All hell broke lose. I don't know
the clean solution. I got confused by IPX, IP; ODI, NDIS, Packet driver; which
one I should used to get it work with what I want.

Option:
NCSA:      I can use it for telnet to UNIX box with packet driver. WRQ said
           as long as it is int-14 compatible. I think it is but no sure.
           Therefor, I can not get it working with Reflection to talk to
           HP3000.
 
HP:   Their answer is have Network Service on the HP3000 and PC. I got it
      work to connect to HP3000 and using Reflection. But how can I telnet
      to other UNIX box.

WRQ:  They provide another product call 3000 connection using NDIS driver.
      I think it use the Wollongong TCP/IP. (Not 100% sure) I can get on the
      HP3000 as a student and use the student menu. But from time to time
      the refreshing of the screen is estrum low. Like 3 minutes per screen.
      When I check the HP3000 all direct connection is working fine. Doesn't
      indicate there is any problem on the network traffic unless I miss
      anything? Using the same software to connect to the UNIX box all the
      message got scrambled.

Question 1: Does anyone connecting to the HP3000 going through Novell. 
Question 2: Does anyone have the similar system that we got?
Question 3: If not, any suggestion?
Question 4: If yes, how do you do it?

Response will be greatly appreciated. Just imaging I got 3 lab need to setup
before the end of August pending on whether I can get the answer of this
-- 
Fu-Gwo Chen                     | The old believe everything;                |
Northwestern University -KGSM   | the middle-age suspect everything;         |
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