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From: Steve_Hooper@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: "Title matches are real"
Distribution: world
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:34:24 PST
Organization: Tunnel-Vision BBS!

Thu 21 Jan 93  5:20, Rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu wrote:

 R> Believe it or not, this is quite common.  Another common belief, one
 R> that my friends and I had when we were kids, was that most of the
 R> TV matches were exhibitions for wrestlers to show off their skills,
 R> but the arena matches were usually real.

This is a VERY real scenario...and that's why it is disgusting to read
someone's match reports from a house show where because he reads this
group, he yells out finishes and spots in front of a crowd.  He knows via
someone elses match reports that a certain finish has been used in other
cities.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

     Steve Hooper               []  The Great White North In
                                []  Vancouver, British Columbia
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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Monday Night Raw/Quantum Leap
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:27:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling

In article <6752@pdxgate.UUCP>, a0cb@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Chris Bertholf)
wrote:
> 
> In article <mike_steiner-190193120909@192.35.50.131> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
> >|                         Boycott Colorado                            |
> 
> 
> Why would anyone want to boycott Colorado?  The state is beautiful, the skiing
> is awesome, and it is a pretty hep place!  I am prjudiced, since I make my
> second home in Aspen...
> 
> This wouldn't have anything to do with Colorado passing the  no special
> rights for homesexuals bill would it?  The best way to handle that problem
> is for a bill that extends protected class status to ALL PEOPLE regardless
> of sexual orientation - the type of legislation the people of Colorado
> indicated they would be more than happy to pass since it doesn't give
> protected class status to a single group, but to all individuals based
> on a criteria.  Seems a bit more 'fair' that way...

Colorado passed a state constitutional amendment that allows discrimination
against homosexuals solely because they are homosexuals.  Colorado has said
that homosexuals may be treated the same way that blacks were treated in
the south from about 1860 until very recent history.

+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                         Boycott Colorado                            |
|     These are my opinions, and not necessarily any one else's.      |
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From: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Vince vs. Nailz
Keywords: Newspaper
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:21:04 GMT
Reply-To: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron)
Organization: Lightning Systems, Inc.

From the Milwaukee Journal - Fri. Jan. 15th, 1993.

_No holds barred_

	_Vince McMahon_, owner of the World Wrestling Federation, claims
in a Circuit Court suit in Green Bay that a wrestler known to fans as
_Nailz_ attacked him at the Brown County Veterans Memorial Arena.

	McMahon said he was attacked Dec. 14 by _Keven Patrick Wacholz_,
34, of Minneapolis. McMahon also claimed in the suit that after the
attack, Wacholz filed a false police report in which he claimed that
McMahon sexually assaulted him.

	The Detroit News reported that the altercation occurred after
Wacholz said he was underpaid for a previous pay-per-view appearance. When
McMahon refused to pay Wacholz the difference, Wacholz wrestled McMahon to
the ground and choked him. The fight was broken up by wrestler _Sgt.
Slaughter_, announcer _Gorilla Monsoon_, referee _Earl Hebner_ and _Arnold
Skaaland_, a road manager.

	McMahon fired Wacholz on the spot.

	In a statement to Brown County sheriff's investigators, Wacholz
said the fight occurred when McMahon grabbed his genitals and attempted to
fondle him. Wacholz said it was the second time McMahon made sexual
advances.

[Reprinted without permission]

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From: bolt@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brandon Scott Coley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: The Undertaker
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:11:23 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

Listen up, because I'm only going to say this once:

THE ONLY REASON that The Undertaker was manhandled by Gonzalez (and indeed
seemed mortal) was that Paul Bearer was not allowed at ringside.  Without
Paul AND THE URN TO DRAW POWER FROM The Undertaker is only a very strong
mortal.  When he faces Gonzales one on one he will KICK BUTT because the Urn
will make him immortal again.  Do not laugh.  You saw it.  As soon as the Urn
was there, 'Taker was up and chasing Gonzalez.  When he lost to Hogan, Hogan
had emptied the urn.  When The Warrior won casket matches against him, he hit
Mark with his own Urn.  Otherwise, THE UNDERTAKER IS UNDEFEATED.  The Urn is
the key.  With it, The Undertaker will forever be unbeatable.

Thats the mark version.  The REAL reason Mark will kick El Gigantes ass is
because 1. The above is what McMahon wants us to believe, and 2. Its been a
over a year since the Undertaker has gone against anyone we thought had a
chance of beating him.  He needs a good feud to keep his popularity (and
merchandise sales) up.  The feud will draw tremendous heat from the marks
and make the undertaker even bigger.  As for Ganzalez, it will make him a
"most hated" candidate, which is all a rulebreaker seems to need in the WWF.

Rest in Pieces
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Royal Rumble notes
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:28:00 GMT

* No Doink!

* El Gigante made his debut as some kind of Sasquatch creature.
Absolutely annihilated Undertaker during the Rumble, though I don't
think he was an actual participant. Love that body-suit with the
muscles painted on it....

* We'd like to thank the following Rumble participants for taking the
time to put on their trunks: Papa Shango (approx. 30 seconds in the
ring), Terry Taylor (see: Papa Shango) 

* By my watch Bob Backlund has the new R.R. endurance record. Please
correct me if I'm wrong.

* Say bye-bye Flair!

* What's the deal with Earthquake eliminating Typhoon? Is this part of
Earthquake's departure script?

* A bunch of us sitting at the bar managed to come up with half the
WM9 matches:

          -Bret Hart vs. Yokozuna for the WWF title 
          -Lex Luger vs. Curt Hennig
          -Doink vs. Crush
          -Undertaker vs. El Gigante/Sasquatch
          -Steiners vs. Money Inc for WWF tag titles
          -Shawn Michaels vs. Tatanka for WWV I-C title

* Overall, considering the restaurant had no cover charge, the show
wasn't that bad. Michaels-Jannetty had some good moments, as did
Hart-Ramon. Rumble wasn't the best one ever, but the Gigante surprise
made it worth watching.


Michael













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From: marv.bloom@rose.com (marv bloom)
Subject: Royal Rumble
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:42:22 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 01-24-93 21:35

 Well the RR '93 is now history.
 
Quick recap (don't wish to be redundant).
 
 No Belt(s) changed hands (or waists).
 
 Sherry, back Marty but because of this Michaels walked away with the 
Gold.
 
 Bret (Hurtman) vs Razor: great match and his Parents were at 
ringside. I must say his Mother is a better than her daughter (camera 
cuts to her and she holds her hands up to her face {Bret is getting 
"degreased"}, good shot and am sure it was "on cue").
 
 The RR was kinda' scary, egads Backlund was #1 and eclipsed Ric 
Flair's endurance record. Ric did get good commentary and lasted at 
least 45 minutes. The final two combatants were Macho Man and 
Yokobozooka, ebbed and flowed and Macho did his "patented" arm drop 
off the top rope and Yoko pushed him over the top rope.
 
 The credits rolled and a shot of Bret "voicing" with Yoko in the back 
room.
 
 The BRAIN unveiled Luger (very hokey, thought Michaels had the patent 
on Mirrors). 
 
 Dr. Harvey Wippleman introd'd his non-scheduled new Wrestler (El 
Gigante but with a beard and a set of tights that looked like it was 
borrowed from the UW {skin colored and muscle defination shaded in 
[talk about pecs, silcone et al, the Argentinian wore falsies] but 
naturally stretched to fit and fur added along the outside edges).
He "took out" the UT and did a very convincing job (obviously the UT 
is finally "mortal") he lay there until Paul Bearer "urned" him into 
conciousness but by that time it was too late.
 
 So, there ya' go Folks and am sure the "blow by blow" ASCII is 
forthcoming.

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From: jseager@mta.ca (jeremy seager)
Subject: Re: [WCW] Flair getting the belt
Reply-To: jseager@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:25:38 GMT

In article <C1JFqH.M6J@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, rusbara2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan) writes:
>In article <9301272332.AA15472@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com> writes:
>>Did the source specifically say that Flair would win the **WCW**
>>World belt immediately after coming to the WCW (presumably from
>>Van Vader, which kinda seems like a mismatch) or could it be
>>possible that he is going to win the **NWA** World belt (it never
>>did look right without the "Ric Flair" plate on it IMHO).  :-)
>
>Or how about, for some real nostalgia, they put the original
>"Rick Flair" nameplate on it?  I still can't believe how long
>it took them to fix that mistake, or even that it was made in
>the first place...
>
>This is mostly just speculation, but when it was first announced
>that Flair was leaving the WWF and returning to WCW, it was said
>that one of the people he'd be programmed with was Barry Windham.
>When they announced that Windham was wrestling Muta for the NWA
>title at Super Brawl, I thought maybe they were going to pass the
>title from Muta to Windham to Flair.
>
>>In one of my tamer dreams, he'd win both belts and unify them.
>>After all, he is THE MAN!
>
>I've asked about this before, but no one has replied:  Is it not
>true that WCW now *completely* owns the NWA name and titles?  That
>all of the talk about the NWA is just an angle?  I was told this was
>the case, but now it seems like New Japan has a piece of the pie.  Can
>someone clarify this situation?
>
>If WCW does own the NWA lock, stock, and barrel, they should unify
>the titles, at least temporarily.  They should also let an American
>wear the NWA title and have a Japanese wrestler wear the WCW title
>for a few months.  I think an angle where a Japanese wrestler takes
>the WCW title back to Japan, followed by another angle where an
>American wrestler returns triumphantly from Japan with the NWA belt
>would be very interesting.

>
Not a bad idea, but its been tried before without too much success.
Old man Gagne tried it with Tsruta and then later with Saito, but it never
seemed to draw that much heat. I'm sure that if they did use that angle
they'd at least make sure it's a wrestler who has a reasonable work rate.
A lot probably depends on whether Watts even makes it through the next few
months as booker! Lord help us if Dusty returns to run the show, as we'd 
probably see him hand over the world belt to Dustin as a birthday present.

>-- 
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From: srubio@garnet.berkeley.edu (Steven Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Royal Rumble Attendee
Date: 25 Jan 1993 04:46:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Re: "missing" Rumble matches.  Goes to show what happens when you spend
more time reading things like r.s.p-w than actually watching any of the
rassling shows. :-)  Somewhere in my mind I thought those bouts were to
take place.

Steven

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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Paul Diamond Re-Visited (WAS Re: Paul Diamond I and II)
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:11:01 EST

In article <C184sA.D6s@askinc.ask.COM>
robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen) writes:
 
>Thanks.  Now, is there anyone else out there who hopes he not only goes
>to WCW, but actually gets pushed?  Boric is an outstanding wrestler,
>combining power moves with martial arts, and has good speed for a big
>guy.  Maybe he and Pat Tanaka could re-team and reunite with DDP...
 
Even if they don't/can't get Boric, Pat Tanaka would be a welcome
addition to the WCW's on again-off again light heavyweight
division.  Where is Tanaka these days?
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: How did RR end?
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:56:47 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1993Jan27.030347.26777@news.acns.nwu.edu>, mknapp@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Knapp) writes:
> 
>      Could someone please post a discription of how the Rumble itself
> ended?  As far as I could tell from what has been posted, it came down to
> Yokozuna and about 5 or 6 other guys, and then Yokozuna eliminated
> everybody else.  I'm curious to know if everybody attacked Yokozuna at
> once, and couldn't budge him, or if everybody was fighting their own little
> battles around the ring, while one other guy attacked Yokozuna at a time.

I only saw it once, and didn't take notes, so this will be brief and
from memory. When Yoko came in, he and Earthquake got into it (and everyone
else stayed in the corners, real low key). Yoko threw the Earthquake over
by grabbing him belly-to-belly and throwing him over that way. Shortly
after that, about 9-10 guys (everyone in the ring) ganged up on Yoko
and tried to throw him out, but he sat on the second rope and started
punching guys 'till they backed off.

Towards the end, Monsoon said that Backlund was about a minute away from
Flair's record. About two minutes later, Backlund was out. Savage and Yoko
fought for a little while. Savage got the worst, rallied, axehandles
took Yoko down to one knee. Yoko came back. Missed an avalanche. Savage
climbed the ropes and nailed Yoko (who was down on him back) with the
flying elbow. Savage then stayed on top of him for the pin (!!!). Yoko
pushed out, and with a little added aid from Savage, Savage was carried
over the top rope.

There was only the once where Yoko was badly ganged up on. Other than
that, it was one-on-one to two-on-one.

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From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Wrestlemania IX
Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:24:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I usually kick myself after wasting money on WWF PPV's.  It's good to
know that I won't have to worry about it with WM IX.  Here's an early
opinion on probable matches, based on current activities in the WWF:

1.  Hart/Yokuzuna - Vince continues his David vs. Goliath concept for
world title feuds.  I personally don't think it will work any better for
Hart than it did for Hogan; in fact, it will probably make it impossible
for Hart to show he can wrestle at all.

2.  Perfect/Lugar - This will probably be the best match on the card,
especially since it looks like Lugar de-juiced (at least based on the
short look we got of him at RR).

3.  King Kong vs. Godzilla - OOPS!  I mean El Giant (or is it The
Gigante) vs. Undertaker - Enough said...

5.  IT The Clown/Crush - Who cares?

6.  Shawn Michaels/? - Supposedly Tatanka is going to get some matches
with Michaels, but I'm not sure the feud with Janetty is over.  Maybe
Michaels will lose the belt due to Janetty's interference, which will
lead to Michaels/Janetty at WM IX.  If so, it could be a great match.

7.  Kamala/Kim Che - Another 'who cares' match.

8.  Steiners/Money Inc - Obviously, no feud has started yet, but given
the terrible state of the tag teams in the WWF, this is the only
possible match that would make sense (IMHO, Steiners/Beverlys was a
terrible match).

Obviously, there are still a number of other matches (and some of those
listed above may not happen), but IMHO, WMIX will likely be a poor
show.

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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: New Body Building Machine
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:15:34 GMT
Keywords: Macho Man, WWF, NordicFlex

yrock@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (William Palmer Weihrauch) writes:

>If you have seen the ads for "NordicFlex Gold" which is competing with 
>SoloFlex, this machine is similar to the NordicFlex, except its about $500
>cheaper.  I thought the ad for it was pretty funny, which shows this wimp

>Watch for this one.. It'll probably get hyped on the shows, along with 
>Ico-Pro, both of which I'm sure what all the wrestlers use to get so pumped up
>(YEAH RIGHT!)

>Vince Has truly gone off the deep end.

If I see that *&@!&$ commercial for the Gameboy one more time, so
help me, I'll hunt down the actors who performed in it and apply
the Luediviego (?sp, the therapy from Clockwork Orange) technique
to them to make them toss their cookies whenever the terms
Nintendo or Gameboy are brought up.  "...And then he shrunk my head."
Yeah, guys, it was cute the first several times.  Are they playing
this thing every 20 minutes during every WCW and WWF show aired?
It sure seems like it.

Tom
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From: gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Im a Joker Im a Smoker Im a Midnight Toker)
Subject: Re: Cages, these days...
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 07:21:19 GMT

In article <REID.93Jan24011004@dsm.dsm.fordham.edu> reid@dsm.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
>Anyone notice how the WCW has joined the WWF in abandoning teh wire
>fence cages for cage matches?  That reall Pisses me off!  These new
>cages just look hokey, and have too much space [in between the bars].
>--
Yeah, it ticks me off....they went out of style about the same time the
Federations decided the only way we could see fueds resolved was by shelling
out 30 bucks a pop......

The only federation that does anything like that is SMW....and that comes on
 at 6 in the morning on a Saturday.....

Jeff Hawkins
gjh2j@virginia.edu
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Ballot Stuff
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:57:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

<M>fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:

<M>JF>  My mail doesn't always work right, so I thought I'd post this here.
  >  >Dave Scherer, pleaes post those who voted for the new rectape (let's us k
  >  >if our vote got through).  Either that or reply when we send our votes in
  >  >Just want to get my vote counted.

As of Sunday, 1\25, I have received ballots from:
Rob Gordon, Joey Richard, J. Jermani, Rob McMullen, Jeff Frazier, Joe
Fipp, Peter Stein, Quimby Corey, and Joe Wright.

If you sent it to me by Saturday, and your name is not here, mail it
again!  There should be a repost of the ballot in this message pack.
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Jeff Jarrett
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:16:55 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

jseager@mta.ca writes:

>Just wondering what's going on with Jeff Jarrett. I thought he was supposed to
>start wrestling for Vince, but there's been no mention of him on the shows. I
>know he did a couple of house shows at the end of last year, but is that going
>to be it?

I don't think it was ever planned to use Jarret nationally at all.

>Also what exactly is the deal with Vince and the USWA? Did he buy out Marlin
>and Lawler or is he just using this group as a feeder system. And does any-one
>know two-cold-scorpio's real name, and where he wrestled before?

Feeder system...yeah, that sounds right.  But, haven't heard USWA bringing the
WWF wrestlers to Memphis lately.  Lawler is still wrestling in Memphis. The
real ruler of the USWA is not Marlin.  Marlin in USWA is Jack Tunney in WWF
and Bob Armstrong in Smokey Mountain.  Just a figurehead.  Jerry Jarret, father
of Jeff is the real promoter. As for 2 Cold Scorpio,
I don't remember his real name.  He studied wrestling in New Japan promotion,
living and traning at the New Japan gym.  Before he came to WCW, he was in
Mexico as Black Scorpio. He's one of those whom New Japan can bring back to
Japan whenever they want.

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Subject: z
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:40:06 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology






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From: derich@netcom.com (Scotty*Tissue)
Subject: Re: Royal Rumble Results
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:53:11 GMT

 Did anyone see who eliminated Virgil? I Didn't see, either.

- Scotty

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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: Your Request
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:56:30 GMT

>Keep
>The Heavenly Bodies (Stan Lane and Tom Pritchard) less than Barry
>Horiwitz? I don't think so.... I was curious as to why Stan Lane
>was wearing that thing on his head though..

The story is that he had his eardrum busted in a match with the Fantastics and 
wears the head gear for protection. This sets up Cornette nicely asking the 
fans not to make too much noise as they could damage Lane's ears, and the fans 
yell and Stan dubbles over.
                               David Kempster