HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Everette Gray Allen <everette_allen@ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: What is MacODA II...
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Organization: NCSU Computing Center
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:58:24 GMT

After changing to new version of my news reader I will try again.  What
is MacODA and what does it do??
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: csuley@cs.cornell.edu (Christopher Suley)
Subject: Re: disinfectant 3.0????
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 02:03:54 GMT

In article <j-norstad-040992163248@norstad.acns.nwu.edu> j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad) writes:
>In article <9224811.19747@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU
>(Red Mountain) wrote:
>> So they can release system 7.1.1 and you can't release 2.9.1 ? Not very
>> nice of them really...
>
>I use the second digit for new virus releases, and the third digit for bug
>fix releases (I've had two in the past, most recently 2.7.1).
>

I'd say go ahead and do 2.10, 2.11, etc. (hope we don't need them, sigh)
White Knight and Red Ryder both did that... isn't White Knight up to
11.17 or something?  Or you could introduce Disinfectant Classic.
Or follow Claris and do Disinfectant II, soon to become Disinfectant Pro.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: Utility to convert screen dump to text ?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:14:07 GMT

In <1992Sep8.115709.7634@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk> b130778@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (MA NGAI LING) writes:

>I would like to save the text from a screen dump as an ascii text file. 
>Is there any PD utility that will do the job?  Thanks in advance. 

If you mean that you would like to convert the text within a paint image
produced by a Command-Shift-3 screen save, then what you need is an OCR
program (fairly expensive commercial software). Converting bitmapped
images of text to ascii text is a slow, cumbersome and error-prone
procedure. Just try to devise your own program to do this and you'll soon
see why OCR software is not cheap. However, converting the known regular
bitmaps of some common Mac fonts in 72 dpi screen shots (assuming
fractional widths off) should be easier. 

Perhaps a different approach is in order. You might want to consider using
one of the following utilities that can be found on sumex.stanford.edu: 

fkey/text-capture-19.hqx
cp/text-trap.hqx
From: gmwu@athena.mit.edu (George Wu)
Subject: Need Advice on OCR software
Keywords: OCR software
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:20:53 GMT

	I am interested in buying an OCR software and
would like to hear from people who are using one.  
There are quite a few on the market and they all cost
quite a bit so I would like to find how people like
the software they bought.  

	In particular, I am confused by the OCR softwares
put out by Caere Corp.  They started with OmniPage 1.0,
eventually put out OmniPage 3.0.  Then they released 
OmniPage Professional.  This year, they released OmniPage
Direct.  What are the differences among these packages?
Is OmniPage Direct supposed to be the OCR of choice
because it's the software released most recently?

	Also, I see an ad for TypeReader in which
the company claimed that it's the "best" OCR available
and has a side-grade offer of $149.00 till December 1992.
does anybody have any experience with this OCR software?

	Thanks in advance for your advice.

	Sincerely yours,

	George Wu
	gmwu@athena.mit.edu
From: banks@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Not all in Word 4 select
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:21:56 GMT
Organization: ISCA

vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver) writes:

>In article <1992Sep7.094252.8691@vax.oxford.ac.uk> banks@vax.oxford.ac.uk
>writes:

>>Various people have suggested command+option m or the cursor to the
>>far left of the screen as the way to perform 'select all' in  Word 4.
>>A word of warning, however: Microsoft have a very particular use of
>>the word 'all', which *excludes* footnotes, page numbers and - I
                                  ^^^^^^^^^
>Not True!  If you select text with footnote markers in it, copy, and
>paste to another Word document, the footnotes are pasted with it.

>>think - headers and footers (you have to open the windows for these
>>and then use your preferred 'select all' command again).

>  Also not true.  Headers, footers and page numbers are all part of the
>section formatting.  As long as you get the "section Break" you will get
>these too.

Well, sort of yes and no.  The original poster asked about selecting all
and then making changes to the font style and size - 
nothing at all to do with copying and pasting as far as I recall.  So 
while I think Jann is right to say that selected text, copied and pasted
may carry footnotes with it, it is also true - in Word 4 and Word 5
(I've just tried both!) - that 'select all' highlights only the main
body of text (no footnotes, footers, headers or page numbers) and
stylistic changes made will only affect the selected text.

As others have said, another good reason to learn about styles.

derek@netcom.com (Derek LeLash) writes:

>Quite true, and another good reason to use styles for such sweeping format
>changes.  Explaining these fully is beyond the scope of one posting (and
>seemingly most books about Word :-), but one of these days I may cobble
>together a Word FAQ list that would cover it.  Any interest out there?

I for one certainly am interested, as I get hopelessly confused by them.

Marcus Banks, Oxford
From: Rudolf R. Sinkovics <sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Word 5.0: Add ins for auto-numbering/cross-references ?
Date: 9 Sep 1992 09:07:54 GMT
Organization: University of Economics & Business Administration, Vienn
Distribution: world
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If I understand it right, Microsoft Word 5.0 is programmed in a way to
allow for plug-in modules to be installed. (MS-Word 5.0 for Macintosh
comes with add-ins like grammar, equation editor.)

It is an annoying thing most users may have realized by this time that
Word does not support cross-referencing, auto-table numbering and any
function which is somehow related to text-markers (as available in Word 5
for Dos or Word for Windows).

Does anybody know something about third party add-ins which implement the
described functions or is there any rumor about MS implementing this
essential feature in a future release ?

-Rudolf
From: j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: disinfectant 3.0????
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:28:33 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Northwestern University

In article <1992Sep4.184335.11621@informix.com>, rfisel@informix.com wrote:
> One relatively simple thing that would make Disinfectant much more system-7  
> friendly would be to reduce its size a bit, so it could fit on a 1.4M floppy  
> with a minimal system file and finder. All that Monty Python stuff is really  
> cute, but I get a little worried when my emergency virus disk can't include it  
> and the system all at once.

There's no need for an "emergency virus disk" with System 7. See the online
manual for details.

John Norstad
Academic Computing and Network Services
Northwestern University
j-norstad@nwu.edu
From: Jerome Chan <yjc@po.cwru.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: At Ease
Date: 9 Sep 1992 22:43:59 GMT
Organization: The Tofu Society of Singapore
Distribution: world
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In article <BuByKp.3x9@taligent.com> Rick Holzgrafe, rmh@taligent.com
writes:
>I was going to write something of the sort myself and sell it fairly
cheaply,
>but I see no reason to compete with Apple system software. I've seen At
Ease;
>it's pretty nice and I haven't thought of any important ways to improve
on it.

Having Multiple Document Folders would be nice. I could then sort out all
my work. This would probably make the At Ease a bit more difficult to
use. ~Less At Ease~?

---
 The Evil Tofu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: jackb@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jack Brindle)
Subject: Re: MORSE program
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:14:07 GMT

In article <searsk-150992090600@3.7.192.220> searsk@med.ge.com (Kevin Sears) writes:
>> I'm looking for a program to help me practise the MORSE alphabet
>> with my Mac.
>> 
>
>The only thing I have seen for a Mac is "Morse Code Tutor v1.1" which is
>dated Nov 1986. Seems to run under System 7 but I haven't pounded on it to
>see if it will break.
>
>The address of the author is:
>
>Jack Brindle, WA4FIB(I think is an "F'eye'B", not a "F'one'B")
>3155 Resin Street
>Marietta, GA 30066
>Compuserve ID: 73365,606
>
>Probably should look it up in a recent "CallBook".
>
Thanks Kevin. Let me update the info. I now live in the Pacific
Northwest, so the current mailing info is:
Jack Brindle, WA4FIB  (as in  a little white lie ;-)
726 175th Street SW
Bothell,  WA  98012
Compuserve: 73365,606
internet: jackb@mdd.comm.mot.com
AppleLink: BRINCOMM

The current version is 1.4, although you won't find it in the
archives _yet_. Version 1.1 is quite old, V1.2 was slightly
buggy, and V1.3 was pretty solid. I recently rewrote the 
program for V1.4, and plan to rewrite the sound generation 
code in the near future to allow rates higher than 24 wpm.
Morse Tutor is 'QSLware.' I simply ask for a QSL or post card
to let me know how you like the program and what improvements
you might like.

There are several other Morse programs around, some can be found
at the Apple archives (ftp.apple.com) in the pub/ham radio area.
I also recently received a pretty good program from a ham in
Japan (sorry, can't remember the details).

If you are interested in mine, send a request. I'll try to get
it emailable soon, AND into the various archives. If you _really_
can't get it electronically, send me a diskette to the above
address.

-- 
==========================================================
Jack Brindle
ham radio: wa4fib
internet: jackb@mdd.comm.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: aps2745@zeus.tamu.edu (SEGAL, AARON PHILIP)
Subject: FTP Instructions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  FTP, download, help, macintosh
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 07:31:00 GMT

FTP, binhex, and all this file transfer stuff. Could somebody please give me
explicit instructions on how to download a file from FTP or from a message and
then convert it to usable macintosh format?

I am dialing into a server with a modem, so the process must include a download
to my directory on the server, and then perhaps a kermit transfer via modem to
my powerbook.

I have received files, but they never seem to de-binhex correctly. I also have
an "lzh" file I cannot do anything with.

THanks!
Aaron Segal
N5YPT/AA

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Disk Defragmenter
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:00:21 GMT

pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:

>Chris Christensen (cnc@Apple.COM) wrote:

>: It seems to me that my hard disk is shrinking in capacity. I wonder if it is
>: getting fragmented. Any good tools for testing for and fixing fragmentation?

>Have you tried Disk First Aid?  It generally recovers a couple hundred K for
>me.

Disk First Aid doesn't defrag disks. Buy Norton Utilities. It comes with a
-- 
Muff
From: ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Disinfectant is a God send. Thanks John!
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:08:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

What can I say. You've fought back three virus attacks on my disk WITH NO
PERMANENT DAMAGE to any of the files, even when I had been infected for two
weeks. I thank God for you every time I hear that little Monty Python music!
(I even have a QuickKey set up for Disinfecting to Music that is activated
whenever I download something!)
A thousand thanks, for those who don't have net access who get your handiwork
from me.
:-)
-- 
"How dare they demand merit in return for a raise?!!" Modern Educators Magazine
"What? Lie? Me? The truth is FAR too much fun!" -- James Hook
Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.
Andy Miller   ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu	ajmiller@ecn.purdue.edu
From: DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: AceCalc or Visicalc translation to Mac
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:40:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa

I have several Apple //e AceCalc spreadsheets that I would like to
translate to Mac compatible programs, ultimately into Microsoft Excel.
Does anyone know of a free/share/commercial ware program that will
do this.
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: robt@agsm.unsw.edu.au (Rob Trevor)
Subject: Re: At Ease
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Australian Graduate School of Management
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:59:15 GMT

In article <BuByKp.3x9@taligent.com>, rmh@taligent.com (Rick Holzgrafe)
wrote:
> 
> ...
> I was going to write something of the sort myself and sell it fairly cheaply,
> but I see no reason to compete with Apple system software. I've seen At Ease;
> it's pretty nice and I haven't thought of any important ways to improve on it.
> 
> -- Rick Holzgrafe, a member of the Taligentsia
>    Rick_Holzgrafe@taligent.com
>    rmh@taligent.com

Is it at all scriptable?  (I currently have my kids booting up my home
system with a floppy and stripped down Sys 7.  This puts them into a
customised HyperCard stack.  This stack isn't too fancy, but it does send a
'quit' to the Finder and uses some externals to change the bit depth of the
main monitor to correspond to the requirements of the particular
educational game they are starting up, to check that the right CD is loaded
for 'A Silly Noisy House' and to change the 'name' file for Kieran, etc.  I
can't expect a lot from them since the two oldest have just turned 4 and
6.)

Or would I just use it as a way of letting them start up the machine and
click on 'their' button to boot the HyperCard stack?


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From: wurtz@sgi421.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Jeff Wurtz)
Subject: Re. Prograph 2.5 number sought
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:14:52 GMT

The card I received from TGS Systems says:

Phone Today or Send in the Card Below

   1-800-565-1978 (from the US)

   1-800-927-4847 (from Canada)

Also Phone: (902)455-4446 or Fax: (902)455-2246
-- 
================
Jeffrey D. Wurtz
   Local:  zeus::wurtz  81-12  157E  5J2  (408)756-1377
Internet:  wurtz@sgi421.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Duane Clark <duane@maddog.jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Disk Defragmenter
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X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Sep 92 15:30:49 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Labs
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:23:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.060021.5871@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> MuffinHead,
smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu writes:
>>Chris Christensen (cnc@Apple.COM) wrote:
>
>>: It seems to me that my hard disk is shrinking in capacity. I wonder
if it is
>>: getting fragmented. Any good tools for testing for and fixing
fragmentation?
>
>>Have you tried Disk First Aid?  It generally recovers a couple hundred
K for
>>me.
>
>Disk First Aid doesn't defrag disks. Buy Norton Utilities.

Well, first of all, the original post came from cnc@apple.com which I
assume indicates an Apple employee. Would they be allowed to buy Symantec
products? Anyhow, fragmenting doesn't really shrink disk capacity. Disk
FIrst Aid (and Norton) will often recover space on disks from pieces of
trash files left laying around on the disk. Among other times, these can
occur if a program has created a temporary file and then the system
crashes and you hit the reset button.
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TOTALEE VOID MONDO DARKNIS. THENN GODSAYD, "LET THERR BELITE." THERE WUZ
LITE. THELITE IS CALLED DAY, THEDARK IZZ NIGHTT. GODZRAD. HESED, "XCLNT,
FERSUR." DAYONE.
Excerted from Genesis, as translated by Daniel Nussbaum using actual
California license plates, no plate being used more than once.

duane@maddog.jpl.nasa.gov
From: Mark.R.Valence@dartmouth.edu (Mark R. Valence)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Likewise net software from Apple
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:14:04 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <7267@lib.tmc.edu>
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) writes:
> In article <18kcvoINNd5t@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au>
> mpradhan@medicine.adelaide.edu.au (Malcolm Pradhan) writes:
> > I read that Apple have released a network updating program for
> >maintaining computers in labs etc. I think it was called "Likewise". The
> >
> Yes, it is much different. It is not as smart as other programs. It only does
> one thing - it copies an entire directory (folder or disk) to all clients,
> replacing any old version. Its advantage over other programs is that it will
> update all clients at the same time.
> 
> It does this by using AppleTalk broadcasts. This is good in an isolated
> classroom, since it saves time. This is bad in a big AppleTalk network, because
> it eats so much bandwidth.
> 
> David Gutierrez

Er, not really.  Actually, its use of broadcasts actually LIGHTENS the
load on
the network, with respect to the direct-addressed packet schemes.  It
does,
however cause each Mac on the "target" network to service an
ever-so-minor
interrupt not a real problem.

Think about it:  to broadcast this information to 20 macs on a network
requires
one broadcast packet, OR requires 20 direct-address packets.

Of course, we are talking LocalTalk wiring here, not Ethernet (I don't
think
Likewise works on Ethernet).

The down sides to using Likewise on a larger net are (in my opinion):

1) no fault recovery.  Likewise does not care whether or not the
destination
machines receive every packet, which means some Macs could get
incomplete
files/data, with no choice but to re-send everything again and pray
that
these Macs get the information this second time around.

2) Likewise cannot use the benefits of broadcast packets on more than
one network
at a time (that's in the low-level sense).  So, either you have to
manually select
each network (roughly, each zone) and then push the "update" button, or
you have
to wait while Likewise does this same thing automatically (and takes a
bit longer
than updating just one network).

Buy NetDistributor or one of its competitors.  You get what you pay
for.

Mark.

(in no way connected with anyone involved in this market,
 just bored and ready to type)
From: banks@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Not all in Word 4 select
Date: 7 Sep 92 08:42:52 GMT
Organization: ISCA

Various people have suggested command+option m or the cursor to the
far left of the screen as the way to perform 'select all' in  Word 4.
A word of warning, however: Microsoft have a very particular use of
the word 'all', which *excludes* footnotes, page numbers and - I
think - headers and footers (you have to open the windows for these
and then use your preferred 'select all' command again).

Marcus Banks
Oxford
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: owen-christopher@CS.YALE.EDU (Christopher Owen)
Subject: Re: Word 4 select all?
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 05:53:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.142015.12078@linus.mitre.org> cbp@ladyday.mitre.org (Cynthia B. Phillips) writes:
>
>Most word processors have a select all command, which is very useful
>for changing elements of a document once it is already written.
>
>Is there any way to do this in Word 4?  As a college student, I find

Just hit Command-Option M.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai)
Subject: Re: need text editor
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:38:31 GMT

fullerto@tuna.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton) writes:
>	I need a text editor that allocates the same ammount of space for
>each character so that I may store letters and articles on my Macintosh
>and have them appear the same as when I first viewed them on the UNIX 
>machines.

There're many out there. Try looking around in sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
I use McSink, but there're lots of others, like steVI, Alpha, tec.

>	A superior alternative would be do set up MacWrite II or Word 5
>to do this. 

This is simple, too -- just pick a monospaced font like Monaco,
Courier, or Code.  Of course the tabs won't be right unless you set
them really carefully...

Ian
From: jruppenthal@pbs.org (Mister Rogers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Envelope/Label Printing Software?
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:01:06 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <Btzs13.7rB@well.sf.ca.us>, oster@well.sf.ca.us (David Phillip Oster) writes:
> You might take a look at Address Book Plus from Power Up Software. It prints
> labels and envelopes with PostNet bar code, and takes tab delimited text
> files as input. You can set up an import format for an arbitrary permutation
> of Address Books fields.

Having just printed over 250 envelopes for wedding invitations, I can say that
I'm quite happy using TouchBase.  TouchBase is a personal contact manager 
that's easy to use and VERY configurable. It'll print envelopes, labels, 
Daytimers, address books, etc., and it lets you set as many variables as 
you can think of. I use it every day and, as you can probably tell, am very
pleased with the product. Well worth checking out...
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From: saraos@axon.bio.puc.cl (Sergio Araos Ch.)
Subject: What can i do whit a MAC Classic II
Organization: Universidad Catolica de Chile
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:20:02 GMT

Hi All:

	In our depatment we have an Ethernet network whit a UNIX-based
server ans a lot of pc connected. Every secretary have a Mac Classic II
in their desk and we want to connect them to the network. But we don't have
many money and i'm looking for a cheap hardware to do this.

	I'm mailing from a latinoamerican country and we don't have all 
information  about products. Please give me names and prices.

Thanks in Advance

Sergio Araos
NAD axon
saraos@axon.bio.puc.cl

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