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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:38:02 -0400
From:         stigle@CS.UNCA.EDU
Subject: Bib formatting software: feedback wanted
X-To:         bi-l@bingvmb.BITNET, libref-l@kentvm.BITNET,
              medlib-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, pacs-l@uhupvm1.BITNET

To:  PACS-L, MEDLIB-L, LIBREF-L, BI-L
From:  Sue Stigleman  (stigle@cs.unca.edu)


For a future project, I would like to get feedback from people
who have read either of two of my recent publications:
	Bibliography Formatting Software.  Chapel Hill, NC:  Institute
		for Academic Technology, 1990
	Bibliography Formatting Software:  A Buying Guide.  Database
		15(1):15-27, 1992.

If you have read either or both:

Why did you read them (for help in consulting with library users,
selecting a program for personal use, general professional reading,
other)?

Did you find the "8 key questions" format to be useful in narrowing
down possible programs to a more manageable number?

Are there other questions that you would add as key questions?

Was the detailed comparison of Pro-Cite, Reference Manager, and
Papyrus in the IAT publication useful or was it too much
information?  Should this be expanded to include more programs?

Have any of you shown either publication to faculty or other
library users?  Have they found them useful, or did they want
you to read them and just recommend a program?

In your opinion, who are the logical consumers of this information --
librarians?  faculty and other users?  both?

Do you have any other comments?   (Positive and negative comments are
both welcome.)

If you send replies to me, I'll post a summary if there is interest.

Thanks for any feedback you have to offer!


Sue Stigleman
stigle@cs.unca.edu
PO Box 8074
Asheville, NC  28814-8074
(919) 251-9059

P.S.  The IAT publication is available free.  To request a copy, contact:
       	    Institute for Academic Technology
            University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
	    PO Box 12017
 	    Research Triangle Park, NC   27709
	    Phone:  (919) 560-5031
	    Fax:  (919) 560-5047
	    Email:  pamela.IAT@MHS.UNC.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:13:00 CDT
From:         "Jan Mixter ZMIXTER@LUCCPUA" <ZMIXTER@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      JOB OPENING, INFORMATION SERVICES

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                 INFORMATION SERVICES LIBRARIAN

Loyola University Medical Center Library           Maywood IL

Position available July 1 1992:  experienced librarian to provide
a full range of information services including general reference,
interlibrary loan, online searching, end-user training, bibliographic
instruction.  NOTIS/MDAS, PLUSNET 2, OCLC, Novelle LAN, etc.

Accredited MLA; experience using BRS, NLM, CD PLUS, OCLC, NOTIS.
Preference given to the following qualifications:  biomedical reference
experience in an academic setting, advanced MEDLINE search experience,
experience as librarian instructor, advanced experience with micro-
computers, academic work in biological or health sciences.

Loyola University of Chicago is situated on three campuses in the
metropolitan Chicago area.  Competitive salary and benefits.
Resume, references to:
Logan Ludwig, Ph.D., Director
Loyola University Medical Center Library
2160 S. First Ave
Maywood IL 60153    708-216-5303     708-216-6772 fax
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:22:00 EST
From:         "ihtfp (I Have Truly Found Paradice... yeah,
              right)" <STU_PLCAMPBE@JMUVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Poem by Dan Fields a.k.a. Danog about Nightfall

      THANK YOU...
                  DANIEL S. FIELDS

                                  DANOG (PERENOR)

***************************************************************************

That was very moving, Daniel.  Thank you for sharing that with us.

Paul "tuna" Campbell
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 23:56:00 CST
From:         Betty Harris <B1H6017@TAMSIGMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Info on Nightfall.

Hello,
One of our Relay Ops has been involved in an accident, and the
op community felt that we should post some information on what
happened and how she's doing, so here is a summary of what has
occurred over the last few days.

Nancy Frankel (Nightfall) had a head on car accident Thursday night and is in
the hospital in critical condition.  Another driver apparently lost control
of his car and spun into oncoming traffic and hit Nancy's car head on.
Word is that she was pronounced clinically brain dead at 4am Friday
mornin... since then she has had a strong pulse and good blood pressure
but is still on life support...   She is listed in critical but stable
condition as of this posting.  We will keep you updated on Nancy's
status as information become available.  More tests will be done soon,
and hopefully the news will be good.

Pegleg has offered to compile a card from everyone to send to her family.
If you would like to include a note to her family, please send that to
Pegleg at BAVOUSET@ACUVAX as soon as possible.  You can send them
plaintext e-mail, or (if you feel so inclined, and have the gear) a
scanned image of a handwritten note.  Contact Pegleg for image-transmission
details.

There is a Vigil being held on Channel 525 of Relay, for friends to come
and show their support for her and to keep ppl updated on the latest
medical updates.  No invite is necessary.  (Let us know if you would
like to join the channel and it's full, and we'll figure out a way to
let you get on)

Pray for this family, folks.  Whatever God you use, call on them.
Nancy, her loved ones, and friends need all your prayers and well wishes.

-The Relay Ops
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:06:00 EDT
From:         "Ida H. Glezen" <IHG@PSUACL.BITNET>
Subject:      Directions to Funeral Home .....

I am going to try to get concise directions to the funeral home
and will post later today.

Ida
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:28:00 EST
From:         Exodus 2 - Jac Of Hearts <BA01571@BINGVAXA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Poem by Dan Fields a.k.a. Danog about Nightfall

It was very touching... I was deeply moved...

She was a true inspiration...

Thank you for sharing this with us...

- A (Exodus 2)
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:02:00 EST
From:         I saw it happening like de-ja-vous <STU_PLCAMPBE@JMUVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Arrangements for Nightfall

>I am new to relusr  can you give me a more detailed explanation thanks

Ditto! I have no clue how to use ANY listserv... I didn't even know they
existed!  And if the comment that upset some one was bogus commands (list
relusr-l or anything like that) sorry!  I certainly meant nothing bad, I
apologize for my ignorance.

Paul "tuna" Campbell
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:02:00 EDT
From:         "Ida H. Glezen" <IHG@PSUARCH.BITNET>
Subject:      Arrangements for Nightfall
X-To:         relay-l@UTCVM.BITNET, relusr-l@NCSUVM.BITNET

<Sunset> the services for nancy will be held at 11:30am, tomorrow, 14
<Sunset> April 1992, at the Riverside Blvd Funeral Home, in
<Sunset> Hewlett, Long Island..

<Sunset> there are to be *NO* flowers.. the orthodox will not permit them..

<Sunset> in lieu of flowers, the family suggests that donations be made
<Sunset> to the National Council of Jewish Women Pregnancy
<Sunset> Loss Program.. i am in the process of finding out details for
<Sunset> making contributions..

<Sunset> family address for cards: 360 East Olive Street, Long Beach, New
<Sunset> York, 11561


For those interested:

There will be a Memorial Service held for Nancy during NetCon '92.
I ask that you send your favorite memory about Nancy to me at
IHG @ PSUARCH these will be compiled and organized into a booklet which
will be made available to who reqest it.


                                        Ida
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:25:42 EST
From:         "Matt Pollicove" <POLLICOV@TSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Arrangements for Nightfall
              13 Apr 1992 13:41:00 EST from <STU_PLCAMPBE@JMUVAX1>

I am new to relusr  can you give me a more detailed explanation thanks
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:41:00 EST
From:         "I hate this serious stuff." <STU_PLCAMPBE@JMUVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Arrangements for Nightfall

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:24:00 EST
From:         "ihtfp (I Have Truly Found Paradice... yeah,
              right)" <STU_PLCAMPBE@JMUVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Netcon T-shirts...

get log 04
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Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:17:43 EDT
Reply-To:     sauetin@elof.iit.edu
From:         Valdis Kletnieks <VALDIS@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      For the interested who have TELNET..
X-To:         RELAY Discussion Forum <relay-l@utcvm.BITNET>,
              relusr-l@ncsuvm.BITNET

For those people who are on the Internet and wish to pay respects to
Nightfall, you may be interested..  I have pointed the Reply-to:
to Tina's userid..

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 14:33:44 CDT
From: sauetin@elof.iit.edu (Tina Sauer)
Subject: Announcement
-------

Nancy had so many friends from around the world who cared and loved her.
Because I know alot of us cannot make funeral services on Tuesday, or
will not be at NetCon for the services there. I would like to offer a
place that we may all get together for a service and pay our last
respects. I will be creating the Nancy Frankel Memorial Gardens (with
the help of Pegleg) on a mud. I would like to plan two services
to dedicate these gardens to Nancy, and to allow the people who
will not be able attend the services in LI, or NetCon, to say
their good-byes and make their peace. These services are planned for
Friday, April 17th, at 9:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m. EDT. (Ask me if you
like help figuring out what time that is where you are). The address
for the mud is: elof.iit.edu 5250 (just telnet there and follow the prompts)
_OR_ 192.41.245.90 5250

If you have questions, feel free to write me at: sauetin@elof.iit.edu or
find me on relay.

-- Pixie
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:21:58 EDT
From:         Amy <AGRUPENO@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Arrangements for Nightfall
              13 Apr 1992 13:41:00 EST from <STU_PLCAMPBE@JMUVAX1>

Without starting a flame war, I would like to point out that there are
a number of people who cared deeply about Nancy and want to have this
information.  Whoever you are, your comment was uncalled for.  Relax
and just delete unread the stuff that you don't want to read.   If you
have something to say to me in response to this, plz do so privately
so everyone does not get caught up in it.
From: elmo@SUN.SOE.CLARKSON.EDU (Paul B. Davidson)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.relusr-l
Subject: Update on Nancy Frankel.
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:25:37 GMT
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Mac and Ida have just left LI for PA, expect to hear from them in 5 hours or
so.  They called Chris and I to bring the following news to you all:

Nancy is still breathing, but the doctors do not have a good prognosis.   Her
vital signs are inconsistent with life.  They will do more tests tomorrow, and
at that point, they will decide what will happen next.

This is mixed news. The fact that she is still breathing is a good sign, and
doctors have been known to be very wrong concerning vital signs before.  Keep
praying, and thinking about her. I'm sure she can feel all our concern and
love.

Keep positive, folks. There is *always* hope.

-Paul B. Davidson
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:18:28 EST
From:         EDDIE BROWN <J$M@FCCJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Poem by Dan Fields a.k.a. Danog about Nightfall

I WROTE THIS SOON AFTER I FOUND OUT ABOUT NIGHTFALLS PASSING ON,
I WAS IN A CLASS, AND IT IS VERY ROUGH.  PLEASE EXCUSE THAT.  YOU
WHO RECIVE THIS HAVE MY PERMISSION TO SEND IT AROUND THE NET. I WELCOME
ANY COMMENTS ABOUT IT. MY NAME IS DANIEL FIELDS, MY FRIENDS OF RELAY
WILL KNOW ME AS DANOG, AND MY FRIENDS OF MUDA WILL KNOW ME AS PERENOR.
*HEAD BOWED IN REMEMBRANCE*.... DANOG IF15189@FARMNTON

                  FOR NIGHTFALL

NIGHT FALLS,
THE DAY IS GONE.
LIGHT HAS CEASED TO SHINE.
HEARTS BLEED,
EYES WATER,
NANCY, WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DIE?

PEOPLE SCREAM,
OUR ANGUISH CLEAR.
VOICES RISE IN PRAYER.
MINDS NUMB,
BODYS WEARY,
OUR HOPES?  THEY NEVER TIRED.

YOU ARE GONE,
BUT WE REMAIN.
CARRYING FOREVER IN OUT MINDS,
YOUR MEMORY.
WE REMEMBER,
AND SHALL NEVER FORGET YOU.

WE HAVE ALL
SHARED WONDERFUL TIMES WITH YOU,
TIMES THAT WILL LIVE LONG.
YOUR WIT,
YOUR CHARM,
IS STORED FOREVER, WITH US.

WE LOVED,
WE ALL CARED.
EACH IN HIS OWN WAY.
EYES BRIGHT,
HEADS BOWED,
YOU LIVE ON FOREVER, WITH US, YOUR FRIENDS.



      THANK YOU...
                  DANIEL S. FIELDS

                                  DANOG (PERENOR)
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:58:26 EDT
From:         Valdis Kletnieks <VALDIS@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Netcon T-shirts...
X-To:         RELAY Discussion Forum <relay-l@utcvm.BITNET>,
              relusr-l@ncsuvm.BITNET

Posting the following for Ida Glezen, regarding Netcon... Sorry for the
multiple copies some of you are receiving...
/Valdis

>From: IP60583@PORTLAND.BITNET
>In-Reply-To: T-shirts
>
>Hey Ida,
>    I wonder if you can send out a note to every one who is going to
>NetCon and tell them if they would like a t-shirt to send me the size
>the number of shirts they like and a check for $9.00 for each shirt?
>I need the money no later then on the 25th. of April.  Sorry for not
>doing this sooner, but I have been very busy, and a check that was to
>supposed to cover the printing cost of the shirts b4 NetCon didn't come
>thru for me, so I need money to cover the cost.  Sorry.  Any how, if you
>can get that taken care of for me right away it be great.
>    Thanks for the time, and I am sorry the note comes at a bad time.
>Take care and keep in touch.
>
>*hugs*
>Jedi


NetCon T-shirts are not only for those attending NetCon, but for all
interested.  If you would like a T-shirt please send information to Jedi
at the above listed BITNET EMail address and NOT to me (please spare me
at least a *little* work -- *smile*)

Thank you everyone.....

Ida


P.S.  Absolute deadline for NetCon reservation is WENESDAY, APRIL 22nd.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:52:15 EDT
From:         Valdis Kletnieks <VALDIS@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Memorial Contributions for Nightfall...
X-To:         RELAY Discussion Forum <relay-l@utcvm.BITNET>,
              relusr-l@ncsuvm.BITNET

The following posted for Sunset....


<Sunset> as i said earlier today, Nancy's favorite charitable
<Sunset> organization was one that she gave a lot of her own time to..
<Sunset> nancy lost two pregnancies, and found a way to help others as a
<Sunset> counselor in the National Council of Jewish Women, Pregancy
<Sunset> Loss Counseling Program.. I spoke with nancy's husband, and he
<Sunset> said he thought she would like us to send contributions
<Sunset> in Nancy's name to this group..
<Sunset> the way we hav eto do so is as individuals.. we must as
<Sunset> individuals call Amy Gershenson, at 212-535-5900, and
<Sunset> ask her to mail each of us an allocation card..
<Sunset> she will send the allocation to you and you can send in your
<Sunset> personal contribution in Nancy's name...

/Valdis
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 92 10:14:00 PST
From:         John W Manly <JWMANLY@AMHERST.EDU>
Subject:      Question about $BITNET$xxx.00 files
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

Hi there.  Two questions, one of which is (I'm certain) asked a lot.  I
thought I remembered the answer, but it turns out I don't.

1) What are all these $BITNET$xxxxx.00 files in the PMDF_ROOT:[QUEUE]
   directory?  They seem to be scattered around in little clumps in terms
   of creation time, but other than that I can't detect a pattern by looking
   at them or their contents.  I assume these are files of messages which
   never made it out of the system, but at what point are they created?  What
   kind of circumstances, specifically, need to arise for them to appear?

   For example, if the JNET system were shut down when someone sent a message
   to a BITNET address through PMDF, could that result in such a file?

2) Assuming they are messages which never made it out, what is required
   to get them sent on their way?  (The message contents and headers look
   fine, so I suspect they would just go out normally.)  Do I just need
   to rename them into one of the channel subdirectories?  (If so, which
   one?)

- John W. Manly  <JWMANLY@AMHERST.EDU>   System Manager -- Amherst College
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 92 08:08:00 PST
From:         "James Dryfoos- PostMaster" <DMPM@DUKEMC>
Subject:      Problems with forward to PMDF all the sudden
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

I am sending mail to a VMS .dis group and two addresses in it
have forwards across DECnet to PMDF.  This worked fine for awhile
and now I get:

%MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user IN%"funde001@dukemc" at DUKEMC
%MAIL-E-OPENIN, error opening  as input
-RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
-SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, exceeded quota
%MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user IN%"polla001@dukemc" at DUKEMC
-MAIL-E-PROTOCOL, network protocol error
-SYSTEM-F-LINKABORT, network partner aborted logical link

PMDF is installed on the system disk, and that disk DOES NOT have
quotas.  I assume it is another quota and disk quota (i.e. process
level quota).

Thanks for any help.

Jim Dryfoos
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 92 03:39:00 PST
From:         "Ned Freed, Postmaster" <NED@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Question about XMAILER.NAMES, DOMAIN.NAMES, and BITEARN.NODES
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> Now I have a question about the DOMAIN.NAMES and XMAILER.NAMES files.
> Amherst College (domain AMHERST.EDU) is connected to both BITNET and
> Internet.  I was looking at our entries in the files above, and found the
> following:

> DOMAIN.NAMES:

> :nick.AMHERST.EDU :mailer.SMTPUSER@AMHERST  BSMTP  3   :served.YES
> :site.Amherst College
> :gatemast.BITMGR@AMHERST        :interconnect.NO

This is wrong. Your :interconnect field should be either YES or MX, depending
on whether or not all your hosts are directly accessible. If they are not
(and few sites are these days) it should be set to MX.

> XMAILER.NAMES:

> :nick.AMHERST :alias.AMHERST :net.BITNET :mailer. :netsoft.JNET

This is also wrong. You need to register a legitimate mailer in the :mailer
field.

> Do these look right?  Shouldn't we have ":interconnect.YES" in DOMAIN.NAMES
> since we ARE on the Internet?  If so, who do we contact about getting
> the necessary changes made?

See above. You contact BITNIC to make the change to XMAILER NAMES and
DOMAINS@BITNIC (I think) to make the change to DOMAIN NAMES. Some of this
is documented in the PMDF manual.

> And what is the relationship between these files and the BITEARN.NODES
> database maintained by BITNIC.  Do they ostensibly contain any of the same
> data?  If so, does either one refer to the other directly, or are there
> serious consequences if the two get out of synch?

The XMAILER NAMES file is generated from the BITEARN NODES database; it has no
existence other than that. You should get a copy of the various procedures
for updating this file and follow them. I'm sure others will help out as
well; this has been discussed many times on this list.

                        Ned

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 92 11:26:00 PST
From:         "Daniel C. Newman" <DAN@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Problems with forward to PMDF all the sudden
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

> I am sending mail to a VMS .dis group and two addresses in it
> have forwards across DECnet to PMDF.  This worked fine for awhile
> and now I get:
>
> %MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user IN%"funde001@dukemc" at DUKEMC
> %MAIL-E-OPENIN, error opening  as input
> -RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
> -SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, exceeded quota
> %MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user IN%"polla001@dukemc" at DUKEMC
> -MAIL-E-PROTOCOL, network protocol error
> -SYSTEM-F-LINKABORT, network partner aborted logical link

This looks like a DECnet problem on the node DUKEMC.  My guess is that you're
sending to an address of the form DUKEMC::in%"funde001@dukemc" and for some
reason the remote DECnet task which runs on DUKEMC is failing.  You'll have to
look at the NETSERVER.LOG files on DUKEMC to figure out what is going wrong.

Dan
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