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From: killer@niksula.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: MEDAL COUNT mo 27.7.
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:10:19 GMT

In article <8b2fcsy@Unify.Com> veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf) writes:

   I consolidated the German (Germany, East Germany and West Germany) medals and 
   the EUN medals (EUN + SOviet Union, because EUN is a commonwealth of former
   Soviet Union States), so it looks like the following

You cannot consolidate the EUN + SU medals, because Lithuania, Estonia and
Latvia (??) are separated from the EUN, so you cannot tell how many
medals were won by Baltian athletes.

With Germany the point is debatable, but there you have the case of a
single nation getting at least 6 competitors to a single event
whereas other nations get only one.
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From: kenl@origami.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ken Lehner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:25:51 GMT
Organization: Bellcore

In article <1992Jul28.171627.10811@telematics.com>, ted@telematics.com (Ted Goldblatt) writes:
|>
|> Actually, the French spelling is always used, not just for _these_
|> games.  I believe it is because Baron whatever-his-name-was (the
|> guy who started the modern games) was French, so French was made
|> the official language.
|> -- 
|> Ted Goldblatt    ted@telematics.com     (305) 351-4367
|>     Telematics Intl., Inc.   Ft. Lauderdale, FL

How much did they have to pay the International Olympic Committee to be
the "official language" of the Games? ;^)
From: wild@cs.uq.oz.au (Luke Wildman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Handball
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:49:07 GMT
Reply-To: wild@cs.uq.oz.au

It is pretty depressing to play handball and to know what a fantastic sport it is and
to know that it is on at the Olympics which is being beamed write into my living
room and not to be able to see it or hear it or read about it or even find out the
scores. I suppose thats why I check rec.sport.olympics twenty times a day.

In <1992Jul28.121145.8806@ericsson.se> etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se (John Dryselius TG/HB) writes:

>teams that all can take the gold; EUN, Spain, Sweden, Romania, Germany etc.

What about the Hungarians? 

>Yesterday I saw Sweden defeating the Czechs 20-14.
>After a very reluctant first period they showed some hints in the second
>the handball that made them world champions. Also the Russians looked very strong.

Not suprising.

>The Romanians had serious problems with Egypt but finally they managed to win.

Suprising ! 22-21(10-12) EGY was leading in the first half and ROM only won by
one goal ! This would be one hell of a game - was it a close finish or was EGY
playing catch up at the end?


>Spain lost very surprisingly against France - maybe the pressure on them is too big?

This is very suprising! I had picked ESP as a medalist given the home crowd
advantage but if they can't beat FRA how are they going to beat EUN, ROM, 
and GER to make it to the final. Oh well, that cuts down the options a bit.

In 1988 SthKOR pulled out some big rabbits because of the home advantage and
because of their extremely fast game (and possibly Kang who was nominated
handballer of the year) (and their incredible goal keeper).
However it didn't seem to bother the Russians much in the
final who showed that they could play just as fast and that they had a few
``Kangs'' themselves.
The Russian coach heralded this as a change in play from big, slow, powerplay
to lighter, faster, acrobatic play.

>Does anyone have all the results from the first round?
>If so please post them. The handball tournament seems to be one of the 
>Olympics best - the best teams with the best players and nothing is given.

Ditto, actually what would be good to hear is some stats from the games
ie how fast, number of fast breaks, number of penalties, saves, 
shooting from backs, flyers (sort of alli-oop), who are the players, 
etc I certainly can't get any of that stuff here.

And what about my heros?
Is Tuchkin playing for EUN?
Wislander,Olsen for SWE?

It won't be the same without Vujovic .
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From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Re: Music Used on NBC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:59:02 GMT

wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:


>Was I dreaming, or was NBC using that wonderful music that ABC used on
>its Olympic coverage?  It sounds something like:

>Dahhhh-dahhhhh-da-da-da-da-dah,
>dah-di-dun-dun-dun-da-da-da-dah-da-da-da...

	I don't know the answer to that question but speaking of music
on NBC, is anyone else sick of those videos that they are playing every
night?  Tonight's video was right in the middle of gymnastic coverage.
I was tempted to log on and read the results here instead of waiting.
I'm also quite sick of Randy and Natalie.  How many times do they show
them each hour?
From: cyn@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (Cyndi Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: CYCLING: someone else to post results this weekend?
Date: 31 Jul 1992 19:45:11 GMT
Organization: MD Anderson Cancer Center

Hi,
I've been (trying) to post the Olympic Cycling Results on a daily basis
(at least what I can get from my local paper...).
I will be away from computer access this weekend until Monday.
If anyone else is willing to post these results, I am sure some folks out 
there would be appreciative.
If noone else posts results over the weekend, I will try to post what I can
on Monday. Also, if anyone is interested in a (rather long) file containing
all the postings I made and most of the emailed and posted response I got
let me know and I can email it.
Since the last of the cycling is this weekend, I probably will not be posting
about this again, so ...farewell.
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Codes
Summary: NATIONS: Codes I have
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:33:25 GMT

AFG	Afghanistan
ALG	Algiers
ANT	Netherlands Antilles
ARG	Argentina
ARS	Saudi Arabia
AUS	Australia
AUT	Austria
BAH	Bahamas
BAR	Barbados
BEL	Belgium
BER	Bermuda
BLR	Byelorus
BRA	Brazil
BUL	Bulgaria
CAF	Central African Republic
CAN	Canada
CHI	Chile
CHN	China
CIV	Cote d'Ivore (Ivory Coast)
CMR	Cameroon
COL	Colombia
CRC	Costa Rico
CUB	Cuba
DEN	Denmark
DOM	Dominican Republic
ECU	Ecuador
EGY	Egypt
ESP	Spain
EST	Estonia
ETH	Ethiopia
EUN	Unified Team
FIJ	Fiji
FIN	Finland
FRA	France
GAB	Gabon
GBR	Great Britain
GER	Germany
GHA	Ghana
GRE	Greece
GUA	Guatemala
GUI	Guinea
GUM	Guam
GUY	Guyana
HAI	Haiti
HBR	British Honduras
HKG	Hong Kong
HON	Honduras
HUN	Hungary
INA	Indonesia
IND	India
IRL	Ireland
IRN	Iran
IRQ	Iraq
ISL	Iceland
ISR	Israel
ITA	Italy
JAM	Jamaica
JPN	Japan
KEN	Kenya
KHM	Cambodia
KOR	South Korea
KUW	Kuwait
LAT	Latvia
LBA	Libya
LBR	Liberia
LES	Lesotho
LIB	Lebanon
LIE	Liechtenstein
LIT	Lithuania
LUX	Luxembourg
MAD	Madagascar
MAL	Malaysia
MAR	Morocco
MEX	Mexico
MGL	Mongolia
MLI	Mali
MLT	Malta
MON	Monaco
NCA	Nicaragua
NEP	Nepal
NGR	Niger
NIG	Nigeria
NOR	Norway
NZL	New Zealand
PAK	Pakistan
PAN	Panama
PAR	Paraguay
PER	Peru
PHI	Phillipines
POL	Poland
POR	Portugal
PRK	North Korea
PUR	Puerto Rico
ROM	Rumania
RSA	South Africa
RUS	Russia
SAL	El Salvador
SEN	Senegal
SIN	Singapore
SLE	Sierra Leone
SMR	San Marino
SUD	Sudan
SUI	Switzerland
SUR	Surinam
SWE	Sweden
SYR	Syria
TAN	Tanzania
TCH	Czechoslovakia
THA	Thailand
TRI	Trinidad and Tobago
TUN	Tunisia
TUR	Turkey
UGA	Uganda
URU	Uruguay
USA	United States of America
VEN	Venezuela
VNM	Vietnam
YUG	Yugoslavia
ZAI	Zaire
ZAM	Zambia
ZIM	Zimbabwe

Rod Swift
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:10:08 -0400 
From: Victor Lin <vl11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: dream team or nightmare team?
	<b_qmhl#@lynx.unm.edu>

Apparently I was severely attacked for a cut/paste mistake.

blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

>In article <ceS0jpi00WBO82JDU7@andrew.cmu.edu> Victor Lin
<vl11+@andrew.cmu.edu
>> writes:
>>No.  We are criticizing Barkley's personal behavior.  This is not
>>a generalization that you mentioned above.
>>Athletes should be protected.  Strict punishments, therefore,
>>should be enforced when an athlete intentionally attempts to
>injure another one.
>>All I'm saying is that the punishment should have been more
>>severe.
>>the team may be ejected,
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I'm sorry if there was confusion, but the line above wasn't supposed to be
there (notice that it's not even a complete sentence, ending in a comma).
It was a mistake that I had when I pasted a part of the document.

>>Victor H. Lin                  vl11+@andrew.cmu.edu      
 
>Victor, you are as bigoted as the US diving commentators.
 
>You're not criticizing the individual behavior, but you have such an
>obscene hatred for the US basetball team that you feel that the >entire<
>team should be ejected?

Understand me now?  I meant there should've been a more severe punishment
directed to Barkley alone.
 
>You would agree, then, that if, say, a Cuban boxer makes a low blow in a
>match that the entire Cuban boxing team goes home?

No, obviously not.
 
>C'mon Victor, rent a clue, try it out for size.
 
>r.

I appologize for all the sentiment brought up by the mistake.



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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: GYMNASTICS: immodesty penalty assessed to three gymnasts
Summary: too much leg shown in leotards
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:15:27 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston


	Apparently the Federation of International Gymnastics is
cracking down on indecent leotards.  Zhang Xia and Lu Li from China
each were docked .1 (one-tenth) from the team score (but this did not
affect their personal scores).  Daniela Bartova of Czechoslovakia was
also penalized .1, but this penalty was applied to her personal score
because she is not competing with a team.  The FIG claimed that the
above three gymnasts showed too much butt... it was probably phrased
something along the lines of "showed more leg than is allowed".

	Dress-code penalties can be assigned for immodesty (as above)
or for wearing a uniform different from that of your teammates.

Rachele
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From: helena@cs.cornell.edu (Helena R. Dias Lourenio)
Subject: Re: Barkley is a jerk...
Keywords: Barkley
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:53:48 GMT

In article <val.712212490@marsh> val@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Valerie Hall) writes:
>What is Charles Barkleys problem.
>
>They're up 40-odd to 11 against Angola in their opening basketball match.
>Barkley is headed to the basket with another layup, with only token defense on him which backs off in the end and lets him have the easy score.
>
>Barkly turns around and as he runs past the Angolan, elbows him with great force in the chest.
>
>That was almost a king-hit. Very cowardly and stupid. What was he trying to 
>prove? He should have been sent off right then and there. There was no need
>for such and act of naked aggression against the poor Angolan fellow.
>
>-=Val=-
>
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I totally agrre. More I am very upset by the way some media talk about Angola
 team, making fun of them and how big is the difference like for example 
some show in FOX network on friday nigth. Of course anyone kwen
 that USA will win with a big difference, but in my opinion there is no 
 need to making the angolans look stupid. They play there best and they 
should have the respect of everyone.
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIM: Results-M's 4x200m Freestyle Relay Heats
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:43:43 GMT

SWIMMING - Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay HEATS
=============================================
at Picornell Pool, Montjuic 

HEAT 1:
-------
1	AUSTRALIA		AUS	7:22.19		Qualified
2	GREAT BRITAIN		GBR	7:23.10		Qualified
3	BRAZIL			BRA	7:24.20		Qualified
4	FINLAND			FIN	7:28.71
5	POLAND			POL	7:29.59
6	GUATEMALA		GUA	8:07.30 

HEAT 2:
-------
1	UNIFIED TEAM		EUN	7:17.65		Qualified
2	GERMANY			GER	7:18.21		Qualified
3	FRANCE			FRA	7:26.22	
4	NEW ZEALAND		NZL	7:26.36
5	NORWAY			NOR	7:31.35
6	HONG KONG		HKG	7:54.30

HEAT 3:
-------
1	SWEDEN			SWE	7:20.03		Qualified
2	UNITED STATES		USA	7:23.70		Qualified
3	ITALY			ITA	7:25.53		Qualified
4	CANADA			CAN	7:25.61
5	PUERTO RICO		PUR	7:35.63
6	UNITED ARAB EMIRATES	UAE	8:39.72

** Results complete **
 
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From: wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: SOCCER: Results Pool A
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:47:20 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

# = number of matches played
W = won
D = draw
L = lost
P = points
F = goals for
A = goals against


Group A
=======

Italy - United States  2-1
Poland - Kuwait  2-0

United States - Kuwait 3-1
Italy - Poland 0-3

29-7

United States - Poland 2-2
20. Imler 1-0
31. Kozminski 1-1
40. Juskowiak 1-2
52 Snow 2-2
Yellow card: Lapper (US).

Italy - Kuwait 1-0
10. Melli 1-0
Yellow cards: Sordo (It), Al-Khaledi (Kow).

Final positions:
                   # W D L  P   F A
                   ================
>>Poland           3 2 1 0  5   7-2
>>Italy            3 2 0 1  4   3-4

  United States    3 1 1 1  3   6-5
  Kuwait           3 0 0 3  0   1-6

Poland and Italy play in quarterfinal matches.

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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIMFINAL: Result-W's 100m Backstroke
Summary: times now complete in this update
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:41:02 GMT

SWIMMING - Women's 100m Backstroke FINAL
========================================
at Picornell Pool, Montjuic

World Record		1:00.31		held by Kristina Egerszegi (HUN)
Olympic Record		1:00.85		held by Kristina Egerszegi (HUN)

 
Gold	EGERSZEGI, Kristina	HUN	1:00.68
Silver	SZABO, Tunde		HUN	1:01.14
Bronze	LOVELESS, Lea		USA	1:01.43
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4	STEVENSON, Nicole	AUS	1:01.78
5	WAGSTAFF, Janie		USA	1:01.81
6	MEEHAN, Joanne		AUS	1:02.07
7	JIVANEVSKAIA, Nina	EUN	1:02.36
8	KOIKAWA, Yoko		JPN	1:03.23


** Results complete **
 
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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Subject: Re: GYMNASTICS: A Question
Summary: a couple extras about gymn rules
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:03:22 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT

In article <Bs16Ew.K8I@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
>rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless) writes:
>>Zmeskal is now in danger of even qualifying for the all-around... only
>>three per country may go.  Miller, Betty Okino, Kerri Strug, and
>>Dominique Dawes are all ahead of Zmeskal.
>
>I was wondering about how the all-around is determined.  Once a gymnast 
>has qualified for the all-around, are her scores then thrown out?  Also,
>is the individual event final held at the same time as the all-around?

Well, I have just posted some of the rules, but Mr. Larsen's questions
bring up a couple of points I did not address...

Yes, all of a gymnasts' scores are thrown out for finals.  This is
somewhat controversial because a gymnast needs only 4 outstanding
routines to win, not like the previous 12 (before the "new-life
finals" took effect in 1989.)

The all-around will be held on Thursday for women and Friday for men.
The event finals will be on Saturday for women and Sunday for men.

Rachele
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: GYMNASTICS:  Opinions on Gutsu's new all-around chance
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:05:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.164824.12277@athena.mit.edu> raek@athena.mit.edu (Robyn A E Kozierok) writes:
>
>As many of you know by now, Unified team gymnast Tatiana Gutsu, who narrowly
>missed qualifying for the all-around finals after a fall from the beam, is
>now being given the chance to compete due to an injury of one of her gymnasts.
>As the Soviets had been famous for faking injuries for this purpose, there
>is a good deal of suspicion going around.  Here are my opinions:
>

The Soviet Union does not exist...Gutsu is from the Ukraine...Boginskaya
from Belarussia...if the gymnasts were still not compelled by the IOC
to compete for this "unified" team Gutsu would still be eligible.  Why
should she, Gutsu, as an individual, be penalized because sports
bureaucrats will not yet let her compete for her country, Ukraine.

Think of how Kim Zmeskal might feel if she were not able to compete
for the US because some Canadian gymnast finished ahead of her.

>3. I think that regardless of whether that rule is not changed, there
>   should be a rule added that 36 gymnasts qualify on the basis of
>   their performance during the team competition (subject or not to the
>   3/country rule as appropriate) and that if any of them should be injured,
>   there may be no substitution and fewer than 36 gymnasts will compete. 
>   It seems absurd to me that a gymnast who has qualified for an individual
>   competition may be replaced by one who has not.
>

I don't see what is particularly wrong with a country having a choice of
which three gymnasts compete if all are otherwise qualified...ie in the
top 36.

>4. I feel badly for Roza (assuming it will be she who will be asked to fake
>   an injury) but feel that if her training makes it clear that this is they
>   way her nation (or team in this case) competes, it may not be so bad for 
>   her.  It may be very clear that the top 6 finishers in their team selection
>   process compete in the team competition, and the top 3 compete in the
>   individuals, regardless of their performance in team, and if that requires
>   bending the rules it will be done.  If this is the case then Galieva would
>   have know that she would be competing in team only and not being given the
>   chance to compete for a spot in individuals, and she would be doing the
>   "right thing" for her team by forfeiting her "wrongly" achieved spot in
>   finals.
>

Remember...it is not a nation...EUN is several nations competing
together.

Gerald
From: wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: VOLLEYBALL: Results Women, Pool B
Date: 30 Jul 92 08:11:54 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

WOMEN POOL B

Matches 29-07:

Holland - Brazil: 1-3 (7-15; 3-15; 15-11; 7-15)
China   - Cuba  : 1-3 (15-13; 11-15; 9-15; 11-15)

 
N = number of matches played
P = points (2 for a victory, 1 for a defeat)
F = sets for
A = sets against

                N  P   F-A
                ----------
Brazil		1  2   3-1
Cuba		1  2   3-1
China		1  1   1-3
Holland 	1  1   1-3

Remaining matches:
      
31-07 Holland - China
      Brazil  - Cuba.
02-08 Cuba    - Holland.
      China   - Brazil.
      
      
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From: coxm@Software.Mitel.COM (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Cool Arrow Thing
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:23:16 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <_nkmy+@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>Damn cool way to light the torch. Pretty awesome looking.

If you saw NBC on Sunday night they showed another angle where the arrow went
up, over and down past the torch.  The must have had 1) a lot of gas flowing
out, or 2) remotely ignited it just in case he missed.  With 1) I would have
expected the arrow to wobble a bit from the "explosion" of gas below it if it had ignited the flame.  However just as the arrow becomes visible on the back
of the torch, only then does the torch ignite.


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From: mcdonald@cs.uwp.edu (Joseph Mcdonald)
Subject: Re: French is the official language of the IOC
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:43:57 GMT


If the parade order is usually in the language of the host country, then
why did they do it in French?  Because their was a controversey and that
was a compromise.
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