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From: jimd@ssd.intel.com (Jim DePorter)
Subject: Re: Backpass-FIFA deserves the Nobel Prize!!
Organization: Supercomputer System Division, Intel
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:13:59 GMT

MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:


>Any fans out there who actually DISLIKE the new backpass rule?! I've watched
>a lot of matches since July when the change was implemented and haven't yet
>found a single reason to dislike it.
>---
>...

I went to my daughters Olympic Development Tryouts this past weekend
(Oregon), and noticed that the ball was being regularly knocked back
to the keeper. I know that this has been allowed in High School and
College matches, but when the Club season started this past fall
there was a qualifying tournament (and possibly some others) where
the backpass wasn't allowed. One of the other parents at the tryout
said that once the season started passbacks to the keeper were 
allowed and that they would also be allowed for the winter season.
My questions:
 Are other state organizations not following the new passback rules?
And are there regulations on when FIFA rules must be enacted? 

It's really hard to make a decision if an idea is good or bad if
no one is even trying it. I think at the youth level it would help
both the keeper and the defense. I know a few keepers who thought
they might have to play by the new rules and started working on
their field skills. Same with the defense. It's easy as a defender
to kick the ball in the direction you're facing, but being able to
control and move the ball is equally as important. 
  I'm not saying that keepers don't work on the field and defenders
can't control the ball, but I've seen too many coaches pick the
big heavy hitters over skilled players because the coach was 
interested in getting the ball out of defense by either kicking the
ball to the keeper or knocking it downfield. It would be nice to see
what the results would be at the youth level if they worked inside
the new rules...

  I know that fear of the unknown in the guise of new rules had a lot
of defenders and keepers working more on foot control and posession of
the ball. Of course they should have been doing this all along.

Anyway, I'm interested in knowing if and how the new rules are 
working in other states.

>...
>MARCU$

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later,
jimd
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From: jwk@sequent.com (John "F. Leghorn" Kramer)
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:00:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.095232.26676@ugle.unit.no> pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.001951.16793@sequent.com>, jwk@sequent.com (John "F. Leghorn" Kramer) writes:
>|> >Per Annar
>|> 
>|> Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. The '86 team on the
>|> day of that game without Maradona would have lost to England.
>|> 
>
>
>Yep, disagree as much as you want, for me they wouldn't have lost anyway!
>Shall we end this discussion here?
>
>
>Merry Christmas to all of you!
>
>
>Per Annar

Yep, I reckon so! I outta here for the year, so see y'all next. Thanks to
all those conscientious result typers!
From: stukh8@wswiop03.win.tue.nl (Johan vd Berg Stukh8 Richard Braeken (studenten Kees Huizing))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Uefa cup round 4 (Quarter Finals)
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:47:06 GMT
Reply-To: stukh8@win.tue.nl

I was listening to the news this morning and I heard that AJAX will be playing Auxerre in the Quartel Finals of the Uefa Cup. They will be playing in France first on 3 march. The return will be the 17th in Amsterdam. 

I don't know about the other games, so if somebody know please mail them!!!

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Johan van den Berg
From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Everton Vs Bayern Munich in 80's
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:58:22 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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> I remember the Liverpool vs Bayern Munich semi-final (quarter-final?)
> in the European Cup in 1978 (1980 ?).
> I believe it was 0-0 in the first leg at Anfield and Liverpool were about to
> go out of the Cup in Germany losing 0-1 in the second half.
> Then Ray Kennedy received a through ball straight onto his chest way outside
> the box and proceeded to immediately volley it into the net without it 
> bouncing.

It was 1981. They met in the semi finals. The score was 0-0 when Kennedy
scored, Bayern equalised very late in the game. Liverpool played with a 
weakened side. Dalglish was clobbered early in the game and had to be taken
off. Howard Gayle came on for him, played a great game but was booked and looked
like being sent off so Liverpool substituted him and then Johnson got clobbered
and could hardly run. All this happened before Kennedy scored !.

Liverpool went on to beat Real Madrid in the final.

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From: altizer@figaro (Robert Altizer)
Subject: Re: Backpass-FIFA deserves the Nobel Prize
Reply-To: altizer@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:34:19 GMT

In article 94z@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk, markr@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mark Rivers) writes:
>MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>> 
>> Any fans out there who actually DISLIKE the new backpass rule?! I've watched
>> a lot of matches since July when the change was implemented and haven't yet
>> found a single reason to dislike it.
>
>On the whole no, but I watched a match the other day where a cross was coming
>into the box and a defender chested it into the arms of the goalie to keep it
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                           THIS IS NOT A FOUL UNDER THE NEW LAW XII!!!
Only balls played INTENTIONALLY with the FOOT of a teammate to the keeper
cannot be picked up!!  (The ref erred!!)

>from a number of dangerously placed strikers.  The ref penalised them for a
>back-pass and awarded the attacking team a free kick, inside the box, to one

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From: emulcahy@unix2.tcd.ie (QUETZALCOATL MONTEZUMA OAXACA TENOCHTITLAN INTI RAYNI RA CHICHEN ITZA TLAXCALA MACCHU PICCHU CUZCO AKRANES REKJAVIK AKUYEYRI KEFLAVIK HAFNAFJIORDHUR GODTHAAB THULE MINNESOTA NORTHSTARS SEATTLE SEAHAWKS KON-TIKI)
Subject: Re: European Review, No. 9
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:29:40 GMT

In <9212112318.AA01821@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> S947607@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Pavel Nikiforovitch) writes:

>Most recent results: Oct 25: South Africa - Congo 1:0

>1.Nigeria               1  1 0 0   4:0   2
>2.South Africa          2  1 0 1   1:4   2
>3.Libya                 0  0 0 0   0:0   0
>4.Congo                 1  0 0 1   0:1   0

>Next games: Dec 20: Congo - Nigeria
>                    South Africa - Libya


	LIBYA WERE SANCTIONED BY THE U.N. AND HAVE OFFICIALLY
	PULLED OUT OF THE WORLD CUP.


>=======================================

>Most recent results: Mali - Guinea 3:0 (awarded win for Mali, because
>                                        Guinea didn't show up)

>1.Mali                  1  1 0 0   3:0   2
>2.Kenya                 0  0 0 0   0:0   0
>3.Guinea                1  0 0 1   0:3   0


	THE MATCH WAS AWARDED 2-0 TO  > GUNIEA <  BECAUSE 
	MALI DIDN'T TURN UP, BUT MALI HAVE WITHDRAWN
	LEAVING JUST GUINEA & KENYA IN THE GROUP, THE MATCHES
	WILL BE PLAYED ON DEC 20 & FEB 27


	Thanks,
		Enda.
From: dc@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Daniel Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Why Spurs hate Arsenal (was Rivals (or, who do ya hate?))
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:07:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <1gahioINN1u2@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro) writes:

>The rivalry continued over the decades, with both Spurs and Arsenal
>having glorious periods. However, in the season of 1970-71, it was
>Arsenal who were in the ascendant, and on the way to winning the League
>and Cup double. Appallingly for Spurs supporters, the last fixture in
>Arsenal's season was at White Hart Lane. Arsenal duly went on to get the
>Double in front of an enormous White Hart Lane crowd, a real slap in
>the face for Tottenham fans.

Don't forget that up until that season, the only team to have achieved
the Double this century was, you guessed it, Spurs. So the Arse were
equalling our proudest moment by beating us that day.

>In 1987
>Arsenal beat Spurs in a League Cup semi-final replay at White Hart Lane
>after coming back from a 1-0 deficit at half-time. Another bitter pill
>for the Spurs faithful to follow.

Oh, I remember that one, it was just awful. It was the Clive Allen
season (ours, not theirs :-) and I think we won the first leg and were
1-0 up in the second when the Gooners first equalised the game and then
the tie. Then we were winning the replay as well but they managed the
same trick and we were out. I don't think I've ever been quite so
gob-smacked.

Daniel Cohen              Department of Computer Science 
Email: dc@dcs.qmw.ac.uk   Queen Mary and Westfield College
Tel: +44 71 975 5245/4/9  Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK
Fax: +44 81 980 6533      *** Glory, Glory, Hallelujah ***
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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Chelsea vs Man Utd
Organization: Wits University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:55:15 RSA

Scheduled for the 19th Dec:
 
Chelsea take on United at Stamford Bridge. United's results have not been
that bad in recent times there and the way they are currently playing,
they should be able to turn Chelsea although Chelsea themselves have been
playing quite well.
 
United still need to improve at finishing off. Against Norwich, they had
ample chances and only managed to score once and too from a defensive
slip by Norwich.
 
Cantona and Ince are looking good in midfield, the wingers Giggs and Sharpe
are making good runs and strikers Hughes and Mclair are playing well enough
BUT THEY NEED TO IMPROVE ON THE FINISHING. This will prove critical come
end of the season.
 
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From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Andy Lipscomb)
Subject: RE: Great Britain national teams
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:35:06 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

Actally there is a sport(?!) in which the UK has *five* national teams:  chess.
Not only do the four nations have separate teams, bt Guernsey/Jersey has one as
well.

In other words, it could be worse.


Andy Lipscomb
lipscoja@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Bitnet: lipscoja@vuctrvax)
Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.
From: rf40@hamlet.umd.edu (Matthias Sammer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Brasil - Germany
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:30:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

Thanks to Ott in Hannover for the result.


Brasil  3  -  Germany   1
38' Enrique   85' Sammer
42' Bebeto
90' Jorghino
From: nmuller@ems.cdc.com (Nelson Muller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: Re: A unique goal
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:22:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp_ser.31054
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <9212101921.AA20709@cs.utexas.edu>, JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU writes:
|> ----------------------------
|> I've seen something even stranger that I call "A unique NO goal".  This was
|> by Botafogo, a Brazilian team playing in the Rio de Janeiro's state 
|> championship some ten years back.  At half-time the score was still no goal.  
|> At the begining of the 2nd half the gaolkeeper from the other team (can't 
|> recall the name) was still in the dressing room with diharrea.  The goalie 
|> came back after 3 minutes, the other team did not touch the ball and Botafogo 
|> failed to score.
|> ----------------------------
|> 
|> Please, try to limit these stories to reality, not fantasy. (Note that the 
|> common thread in these folklore tales is "A friend of mine saw...", "I can't 
|> remember exactly, but...", "I was told....", etc)

Hey pal, this is reality.  I watch the game.  I was at the stadium.  As far
as I recall this game was the first one of a doubleheader at Maracana
stadium.  If you know any Botafogo fan, believe me, he'll deny it in shame.

Now a stupid goal.  Some 30 years back (yes, I said 30 years!) there was
a penalty kick against Vasco da Gama.  The gaolie throw his hat inside the goal
to get ready for the penalty kick.  The striker shoots and the galie catches
the ball.  Then, with the ball in his hands he goes inside the goal to pick
up his hat.

Same goalie, another game:  a kick is made and he catches the ball.  He tries
to throw it with his hands to midfield.  The ball slips and goes straight
back into his net. 

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From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: Re: RULE CHANGES
Date: 16 Dec 1992 08:19:53 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

---------------------------
>ALLOWED.  WHAT DO YOU THINK?  SEND ME YOUR RESPONSES!

Actually, ACCORDING TO THE LAW the clock SHALL be stopped when there is
an injury or if the referee thinks that a player is trying to kill time
by taking his time with a free-kick, goal-kick etc. The problem here
seems to be that the referees not always keep to this rule.
---------------------------

Um, sorry Marcos - no. The law says that referees shall allow for time lost 
through accident or other cause.

In practice, this is usually done as adding time. However, many referees 
simply stop their watch and restart after the "delay" is over.

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: tpd1@cec1.wustl.edu (Theodore P. David)
Subject: Cyprus's results
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 21:21:57 GMT

This week's results:

OMONOIA      3 SALAMINA     2
OLYMPIAKOS   1 EUAGORAS     4
ARIS         2 POL          0
EPA          1 AEL          1
APOP         1 ENWSIS       4
AXNA         1 APOLLWN      1

ANORTHOSIS     APOEL        NOT COMPLETED

                     --------------------------------------
                     CYPRUS SOCCER CHAMPIONSHIP  12/20/92
                     --------------------------------------
                TEAM       GAMES  PNTS      W   DR  D    GF   GA
           1   OMONOIA      11     24       7   3   1    40  17
           2   APOLLWN      11     24       7   3   1    31  14
           3   SALAMINA     11     23       7   2   2    20   9
           4   APOEL        10     21       6   3   1    20   9
           5   ANORTHOSIS   10     19       6   1   3    15  13
           6   ENWSIS       11     16       5   1   5    21  25
           7   AXNA         11     16       5   1   5    18  16
           8   ARIS         11     14       4   2   5    17  23
           9   EUAGORAS     11     13       4   1   6    18  21
          10   AEL          11     11       3   2   6    18  20
          11   EPA          11     10       2   4   5    11  19
          12   OLYMPIAKOS   11     10       3   1   7    10  26
          13   POL          11      8       1   5   5    13  17
          14   APOP         11      4       1   1   9     7  30

Theodoros
From: math1pu@elroy.uh.edu (Douglas luo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Date: 11 Dec 1992 14:52 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <11DEC199214441115@elroy.uh.edu>, math1pu@elroy.uh.edu (Douglas Luo) writes...
>In article <1992Dec11.080028.6458@ugle.unit.no>, pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune) writes...
>>In article <31037@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com>, nmuller@ems.cdc.com (Nelson Muller) writes:
>>|> In article <9DEC199214454020@jane.uh.edu>, math1pu@jane.uh.edu (Douglas Luo) writes:
>>|> |> Here is my top 10 teams in the world:
>>|> |> 
>>|> |> 1.  Argentina
>>|> |> 2.  Holland
>>|> |> 3.  Italy
>>|> |> 4.  Germany 
>>|> |> 5.  Brazil
>>|> |> 6.  Russia
>>|> |> 7.  England
>>|> |> 8.  France
>>|> |> 9.  Cameroon
>>|> |> 10. Sweden
>>|> |> 
>>|> |> The best midfielder of all time will have to go to Diego Maradona.
>>|>                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>|> 
>>|> You must be too young not to have ever seen Pele play.  Gi'me a break,
>>|> I'd rather have one Pele in my team than 2 Maradona.
> 
>Well, Nelson, I don't know what kind of soccer you play. You may have any one 
>on your team and it wouldn't make any difference. 
> 
>By the way, I have tapes from World Cups 58, 62, 66, and 70. One has to admitt
>that the 1970 Brazilian team which won the Cup is the best of all time. But
>they would have won it without Pele anyways as they did in 1966.
>                                                             ^^ 
>Doug 

It should be 1962.

Doug 

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From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: RULE CHANGES
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:52:41 GMT
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In <1992Dec14.054305.52647@gmuvax.gmu.edu> 2005bj@gmuvax.gmu.edu writes:

> SOCCER IS UNDOUBTEDLY THE MOST EXCITING, AND MOST ENTERTAINING SPORT IN 
> THE WORLD.  THE NEW RULES IMPOSED BY FIFA IN THE PAST YEAR HAVE GREATLY
> CONTRIBUTED TO THE GAME OF SOCCER. I THINK, THOUGH, THAT THERE ARE STILL
> SOME CHANGES IN THE RULES THAT MUST BE CONSIDERED.  THE GAME CLOCK 
> SHOULD BE STOPPED WHENEVER THERE IS AN INJURY, OR WHEN THE BALL GOES OUT
> OF BOUNDS. THIS WOULD PREVENT PLAYERS FROM KILLING TIME OFF THE CLOCK
> ON PURPOSE. ALSO, THERE SHOULD BE A GREATER NUMBER OF SUBSTITUTIONS 
> ALLOWED.  WHAT DO YOU THINK?  SEND ME YOUR RESPONSES!

Couldn't agree more. American-style effective timekeeping would be a better
option than the inexact method of adding extra time - but  O N L Y  in
international "big league" soccer! Substitutes? Perhaps not, especially now
that FIFA allows eleven subs on the bench for major tournaments(?) 
[at least they did for the European championships in Sweden last summer].
---
Hm, perhaps a "hybrid" system would work best? The effective clock could be
stopped every time the goalie holds the ball in his hands, in case of injuries
etc. and the game is over once this clock reaches 60 minutes. They could
display both the standard 90min. time and the effective clock on the
scoreboard, thus satisfying the traditionalists.
 
MARCU$
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Subject: Re: The World's Best Football Players
From: mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell)
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:57:22 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec10.150815.1126@gssec.bt.co.uk>, gmcfall@gssec.bt.co.uk (Graeme McFall) writes:
> I am new to this newsgroup and apologise if this has been
> done recently, but I would like to find out people's
> opinion on the players they would pick to form a World's 
> Best XI.

ok then...here goes.....


1.  ZENGA (Internazionale)
2.  TASSOTTI (Milan)
3.  MALDINI (Milan)
4.  MATTHAUS (Bayern Munich)
5.  BARESI (Milan)
6.  BOLI (O. Marseiile)
7.  LENTINI (Milan)
8.  BAGGIO (Juventus)
9.  VAN BASTEN (Milan)
10. BERGKAMP (Ajax Amsterdam)
11. RAI (Sao Paolo)


subs..: STOICHKOV (Barca); BEBETO (Deportivo); MARCHEGIANI (Torino); VIALLI
(Juventus); KOEMAN (Barca)
> 
> Graeme.
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From: DMGRIF00@UKCC.uky.edu
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Subject: (none)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 16:14:56 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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From: mxt7690@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: English League still SUCKS a lot
Reply-To: mxt7690@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:07:56 GMT

Referring to article 12443.
Hard to digest,huh ? Come on guys let's face the reality.OK ? Good .