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From: magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Sweet's "Identity Crisis" and "Water's Edge" CD's
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:16:06 GMT
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden

In article <1992Oct15.163119.16406@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>  
mboyers@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Mike Boyers) writes:
> I was browsing through a Goldmine magazine recently and came
> across two CD's from the 70's rock group Sweet which I have never
> heard of.  The titles were "Identity Crisis" and "Water's Edge".
> There was also a CD simply titled "A" which I haven't heard of.
> My question is: Does anybody have any information about any of
> these releases (When they were recorded, what songs are on them,
> etc.)?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Boyers
> mboyers@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu 

I think 'Identy Crisis' and 'Water's Edge' are two of the three
albums recorded by Sweet after Brian Connely left the group after
the 'Level Headed' album in 1977(?). That means the albums are from 
the late 70's. It's good that these albums are out on CD, because I
never bought them back then.

BTW has any one heard the new album by Andy Scott's Sweet? Is it any
good?

/Magnus Ring
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.progressive
From: yahnke@macc.wisc.edu (Ross Yahnke)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: REM, Automatic, Anagrams...
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:02:41 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center

OK so I've listened to the new REM CD, AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE. And it
is sooo mediocre and sooo completely unmemorable that the only way I can
reconcile myself to try and glean any kind of enjoyment out of the whole
experience is to make anagrams out of the title. It's really that bad.

So.

THE POOR OUTFIT, LEAP CAME.

Punctuation mine.

Can anyone do better?

- Ross
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: slotfi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sherveen Lotfi)
Subject: Re: SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:50:21 GMT

In article <Bvv2Ku.J3@acsu.buffalo.edu> v125mf9n@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Indra Geerts) writes:
>Has anybody else realized exactly _how_ successful this performance
>was at stirring up debate?
>
>                -Indra


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From: szgray@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (Grad Student of the Damned)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Roger Waters's AMUSED TO DEATH Tour?
Summary: Tour or No?
Keywords: Roger, Waters, Tour, Hysteria, Waiting, Waiting, Waiting....
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:08:21 GMT
Organization: The Save David Gilmour From Obesity Support Group
Originator: szgray@hamlet.ucdavis.edu

Any word on the sales figures for Roger's album?  All the reviews
I've read for it says that it sucks, but most of my friends really
really like it.

So is Waters going to tour?  He said he would if the numbers for 
the album were really positive.


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|UCDavis Dept. of Sociology|	 admitted they were still perplexed...."
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.video,alt.sex,alt.supermodels
From: aras@athena.mit.edu
Subject: Re: The girls of music video
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1992Oct6.144207.28093@newstand.syr.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:32:35 GMT


Anyone know about the female in "Breaking the Girl" by Red Hot Chil.i Peppers?
Just curious.  You know...sometimes they just show such quick glimpses...
keeps the interest way up!

Shell
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: mknapp@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Knapp)
Subject: Re: SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:28:54 GMT

In article <tahonen.45@katk.Helsinki.FI> tahonen@katk.Helsinki.FI (Timo Ahonen) writes:
>In article <1b2h10INNh3t@bigboote.WPI.EDU> bab@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Brian Alan Baker) writes:
>
>>No, she attacked an entire religion.
>
>>Imagine yourself in the shoes of a Catholic that watched this on TV.
>>I would be big-time pissed.  Hell, I'm not Catholic and I was still
>>pissed!  She didn't stand there and say, "Hey, the Pope is wrong in his
>>stance on contraception."  She tore up a very strong symbol of the 
>>Catholic faith and yelled "fight the real enemy."  A very STRONG attack
>>against an entire religion.
>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  "Laugh and the world laughs with you.  Shoot someone   |   Brian Baker
>>  and you really limit your appeal." - Joe Martin        |   bab@wpi.WPI.EDU
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>If she had torn a picture of Virgin Mary, she'd attacked an entire 
>religion, 'cos she's definitely THE symbol of the Roman Catholic faith.
>The picture of the Pope is a picture of a symbol of a reactionary stance on 
>contraception, abortion, homosexuality etc., and just tearing his picture 
>made a much more efficient statement than just saying out loud something
>'political' would have made. Religion is much more than just the formal 
>organization and its head claiming to represent that religion.
>
>Timo Ahonen                        "Sometimes I think the surest sign that
>University of Helsinki             intelligent life exists elsewhere in the
>Finland                            universe is that none of it has tried to
>Timo.Ahonen@Helsinki.FI            contact us." Calvin by Bill Watterson

     My brother told me today that Sinead did an interview on MTV a few
days ago in which she said that her gesture was meant as an attack not only
on the Pope or Roman Catholics, but on organized religion in general.  Did
anyone by any chance see this, and maybe post more of what she said?

Mike

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                              |  around him.  We do what we can ... and live
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Where is Steve Perry (journey) Now????????
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:39:06 GMT

floodp@pell2l2.alleg.edu (Peter Flood) writes:

>This is a question addressed to anyone, absolutely anyone, anywhere, who  
>knows what ever happened to Steve Perry, former lead singer of the rock  
>band JOURNEY after they broke up. If YOU, yes YOU know, I would be most  
>appreciative if you could tell me, WHERE IS STEVE PERRY NOW??????!!!!

As of a year ago or so I think he was still around San Francisco and he
and some of the Journey folks did some reunion thang in Golden Gate Park
as part of some Ben & Jerrys concert. I think the mayor of SF even
introduced Perry... That's all I know, I don't care for Journey, I just 
happened to be there at the time.

 - malcolm
From: small@iftccu.boeing.com (Steve Small)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: RUSH
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:26:21 GMT
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group


Hey RUSH fans:
Please answer these questions for me and my friends:

	 1)  Who was the original drummer for RUSH?
	 2)  Is Getty Lee the bass player's real name.


Email is fine.
			Thanx,
				Stevo  8-) 8-)

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From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Sharp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:24:44 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism,talk.politics
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct13.171014.16158@tse.uucp> don@tse.uucp (Don Marks) writes:
>In article <x> afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
>>Sinead only proved that she is one of the many morons that knows what they 
>>*don't* like, but offers no rationale or alternative. *Anybody* can run 
>>around yelling "This sucks !"
>>
>I think the alternative is pretty obvious: stop looking for the answers to
 ^ ^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^

So does everyone else.  The problem is, as well, obvious.
Thus, Sinead O'Connor's 'point' is rendered TEDIOUS,
similar to this thread.


>life in oppressive religions.  And I certainly don't hear enough people
>identifying the evils of religion, especially on national american television.
>A problem must be first identified before solutions can be offered.

Do you have trouble identifying the "evils of religion"?
I don't.  No one I am around on a regular basis does.
No one who I am around on a regular basis and who I know
watches Saturday Night Live have any trouble identifying
"the evils of religion."  I do not need to be informed by
a lousy pop singer of something I already know.  I find
her self-importance offensive.

Furthermore, I find the concept of American national
television being flooded with even _more_ trite aphorisms
offensive.


>A problem must be first identified before solutions can be offered.

One:  This is faulty.  Many problems are solved without any
      knowledge of their existance on the behalf of the solver.

Two:  The above quote is one of the lamest justifications for stupidity
      ever used.  If I were to tell you about a problem you
      already knew of and could do very little about, I would _not_
      be serving any valuable function.  I would be agitating the
      problem, and doing nothin constructive.  Far too oft do
      pop musicians use the "Well, hopefully it'll bring awareness"
      argument to spew forth their own inane rhetoric in an attempt
      to justify its existance.

Three: Solutions should be _implemented_.  The offering of a solution
      does little to nothing to help a situation.

This thread is _still_ inappropriate.  Followup-To: set accordingly.

Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: kwright@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Wright)
Subject: Re: 3-D sound?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:15:24 GMT

>I was wondering if anyone knows what happened to that 3-d stereo process called
>Q-sound. After a brief period of popularity (it appeared on Madonna's
>Immaculate Collection, Sting's SOUL CAGES, Paula Abdul's SPELLBOUND) it seems
>to have vanished. Did everyone dislike Q-sound or is there a supposedly better
>idea in the works? I was rather sorry to see it go. It wasn't perfected, it
>seemed, but I thought it could have developed. 
>Clue me in....

The brand new Roger Water's album [Amused To Death] was recorded in Q-Sound.
I don't feel it adds much to the overall 3d effect of the album, but
it does seem to make things seem clearer. I don't have a
good enough stereo to really test it though.
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From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New group proposal
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:05:21 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <13OCT199218082283@acad3.alaska.edu> fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:
>Undoubtedly, everyone's definition of classic
>rock is different, but my persoal definition of such would be any album-
>oriented rock 'n roll recorded between 1967 and 1982.  


I can certainly see the use for a newsgroup devoted to the music
of the Fugs, Journey, and Jody Fosters Army.






-- 
Ray Shea                       Practice random cruelty 
UniSQL, Inc.                   and senseless acts of violence.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: bobn@hawkwind.central.Sun.COM (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Warriors on the Edge of Time (was Re: Pink Fairies, Man, Hawkwind)
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:24:55 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

I think I said
|> >I guess we all know what is next, right ?  Will it be Warriors on the
|> >Edge of Time ????????

then ben@cs.vu.nl (Bruschke BAH) writes:
|> No it won't. I don't know the exact story but there is something wrong with 
|> the rights to this album (i.e. the wrong person ownes them). "Warriors on 
|> the edge of time" will NOT be released as a CD (what a shame).

I thought the deal was that the masters were lost.  Sometime earlier
this year the UA masters were found - ie. the American release with the
break between Assualt and Battery and The Golden Void.

-- 
Bob Netherton                        | You see the signs, they're always there
Sun Microsystems                     | But you know you never care
Dallas, Tx                           | You are always looking for another reason
bob.netherton@central.Sun.COM        | ==== Hawkwind, Paradox
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: mcadamw@coch2.alleg.edu (William McAdams)
Subject: Sugar
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:37:34 GMT

Hey- could someone post the dates for Sugar's tour,
Also- what the hell is Paul Westerberg up to, I know
Tommy Stinson is coming out with a new album, but aside
from the 2 new songs on Singles Soundtrk, I haven't heard 
much about Westerberg. 
could someone also post Dylan tour dates. THanks

BILL
 
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From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Sharp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:01:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <angus.718676311@well.sf.ca.us> angus@well.sf.ca.us (Angus P. MacDonald) writes:
>
>Is anyone defending the Vatican's stance on birth control? It
>strikes me as consciously and openly pro-famine.
>

Why is this in rec.music.misc?        
Please take this entire inappropriate discussion
of religion, values, and offense to another newsgroup.



The only relevent portion of the discussion
was summed up quite nicely by Mr. O'Grady,
when he explained the fact that the so-called
"discussion" which Ms. O'Connor has "generated"
is predominantly based on the subject of whether
or not her actions were stupid, un-called for,
inappropraite, or juvenile.   



Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:42:49 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct15.182637.26519@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.014705.22875@aisb.ed.ac.uk> rjc@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley) writes:
|>
|>How about burning a guitar?
|
|Well, the Who would smash guitars (and drums and amps...) but I don't
|think they had any reason other than to attract lots of press.

Bingo.  Give that man a cigar.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: mpelath@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (La Gazza Ladra)
Subject: Re: What is the "pompitous" of love, anyway?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:44:56 GMT

Actually, Dave Barry said that's why some people call him Maurice...:)
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.  On a desert highway straight to the heart of the sun        ..
.  Like lovers and heroes, and the restless part of everyone   ..
From: phil@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Phil Hildenbrand)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Another Greenslade question (was Re: Greenslade (was Re: Long Lost Brother of King Crimson))
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:15:27 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

Bob Netherton writes:

>So what are the first 4 Greenslade albums like ?  I know there is a
>cover of Mountain's Theme for an Imaginary Western, so they can't be
>all bad :-)  Where should one start ?

 Actually, 'Theme From An Imaginary Western' is a Jack Bruce/Pete Brown
 song and it appeared originally on Jack's great "Songs For A Tailor"
 lp. Jon Hiseman (drums, pre-Colosseum) and Chris Spedding (gtr, pre-
 career) provide great backing for Jack...

 Cheers, Phil
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Lyric Request: Radar Love
From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:23:53 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

  Does anyone have the lyrics to Radar Love by Golden Earring? I'm especially
intersted in the second verse. I checked the Lyric Server and the only song
available by Golden Earring was Twilight Zone. Thanks in advance.
-Daniel
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From: jocallag@bach.helios.nd.edu (john ocallaghan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: One Catholic's view of Sinead on SNL
Date: 10 Oct 92 16:41:52 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <LANCER.92Oct9170732@edwards.WPI.EDU> lancer@edwards.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett) writes:
>>>>>> "khaberl" == Karl Haberl <khaberl@bbn.com> writes:
>
>Is this really true?  I don't want to get into an abortion-rights battle on
>a music newsgroup, but I don't think the Roman Catholic church has always
>remained steadfast in their hatred of abortion and contraception.  I had
>heard from many different sources that their position neatly reversed when
>the RC population was declining worldwide.  Well, actually, that they had
>never really said anything pro or con about these practices until the mid
>19th century, when the Pope released a statement condemning them.

Yes this is really true.  You have been sadly misinformed.  The Catholic
Church has maintained from its earliest times that abortion is a grave moral
evil.  Abortion as well as infanitcide were widespread practices in the Roman
Empire.  As the Church began to spread into the Roman world, it found itself
confronted with abortion and infanticide in the culture generally, and with
those who wished to become Christians.  It immediately recognized that these
practices were directly contrary to the new life in Jesus Christ that they wer
preaching, and immediately condemned them as morally equivalent to murder.
A historical examination of of the Church's teaching on this can be found in
"An Almost Absolute Value in History", by John T. Noonan, in "The Morality of
Abortion: Legal and Historical Perspectives", edited by John T. Noonan.
The "Almost"  in the title recognizes that in the two millenium of the
Church's history there have been a few theologians, prior to the last 20
years, who said that in certain instances abortion should be allowed.  They
were mainly in the middle ages.  But the article also points out that theologians have no ultimate teaching authority in the Church; and that when these 
theologians suggested this, the ultimate teaching authority of the Church, the
magisterium, condemned their teaching as false, and contrary to the long standing teaching of the Church.  The suggestion that the Church only got interested
when its population began to decline or in the nineteenth century is false, and
scurilous.>
From: dfong@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Outer space b-side
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:31:54 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <al.718658612@iris>, al@iris.claremont.edu (Aotearoa) writes:

> Also, does the "Outer Space" 7" by the 3Ds have any non-album tracks?
> If so, are they crucial to my continued existence?

YES YES YES YES YES !!!

BUY IT !!!
BUY IT !!!
BUY IT !!!

It is a cover of Brian Eno's "Baby's On Fire" !!!!

With great female vocals.

I prefer this to "Outer Space", which is a bit too 'orderly' for my liking.

According to sources, Flying Nun only pressed 400. From my observations
it has sold out quite quickly.

But I guess in the states it's been released by Ajax or some such,
so there's no need for you to get one ordered specially from NZ.

De Fish!
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From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Virgin CD re-issues
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:33:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <BvnxK9.L40@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> shewchun@boomer.uwaterloo.ca (Dave Shewchun) writes:
>
>Part of the purpose of the "compact price" label is to try to keep record
>stores honest.  It's the same idea as the punch hole or notch used on deletes.
>Presumably Virgin is selling these CDs at a reduced cost.  Without the label,
>unscrupulous record stores could just sell them at regular price, and make some
>extra profit. 

Some stores are pretty shameless, and don't give a sh*t whether the disc is
plainly marked as "compact price" or whatever.  All the Virgin "compact price"
UK imports that I've seen in my area (before Caroline started distributing
at domestic price) sold for the same price as other UK CDs ($20-22).

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry
From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Police, EMF: Was Re: Chart: UK Charts for Week Ending 10th October
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:18:43 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

In article <Oct.7.10.51.40.1992.27166@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net
(Bob Gajarsky) writes:
>
> 2) why the re-issue of simple minds?

Forthcoming "Best Of" compilation...

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From: PKULAWEC@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Ricki Lee Jones for beginners?
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:51:21 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

As a slight correction Girl At Her Volcano is available on CD as a
Japanese import. Is it worth paying import CD prices for < 30 mins
(it's an EP rather than an LP) of music? In this case I think yes...

Also recommended is "The Magazine".

peter