From: peter@citr.uq.oz.au (Peter Klavins)
Subject: Re: Is there an MSDOS shareware version of LOGO language?
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:56:01 GMT

johns@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (John Savage) writes:

>  I would like to obtain a shareware version (for MSDOS) of the LOGO language.
>  Can anyone recommend one, and, if possible, from where it may be obtained?

These items crossed the net not long ago ...

From: bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.logo
Subject: Berkeley Logo available
Date: 28 Jul 1992 19:50:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.cs.berkeley.edu

The alpha test release of Berkeley Logo is hereby officially
available by anonymous FTP.  "Alpha test" means that I know there are
bugs in it!  But you're welcome to try it if you understand that.
I'm happy to get bug reports but I don't promise anything.

FTP to anarres.cs.berkeley.edu and get the following files:

pub/logo.tar.Z		Unix sources and documentation
pub/ucblogo.zip		PC version, PKZIP form, including executable BL.EXE
pub/ucblogo.sit.hqx	Mac version, StuffIt/BinHex form, w/ executable Logo
pub/usermanual		Just the documentation file.
pub/csls.tar.Z		Logo programs from _Computer Science Logo Style_

You're on your own for the unpacking software.

Advantages of Berkeley Logo:

	* It's free.

	* It comes with source files (in C).

	* Logo programs are completely compatible among Unix, PC, and Mac.

Disadvantages of Berkeley Logo:

	* It's pretty slow.

	* It doesn't do anything fancy about graphics.  (One turtle.)

	* It still has bugs.  In particular, it runs out of memory easily.

People who can't handle anonymous FTP will have to wait until I get home
(I'm in Ohio right now) to organize other forms of distribution.

From: mills@athena.lkg.dec.com (George Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
Subject: Microsoft Windows LOGO (MswLogo) version 2.1 is available
Summary: Microsoft Windows LOGO (MswLogo) version 2.1 is available
Keywords: LOGO
Date: 25 Aug 92 15:04:19 GMT


        MswLogo Version 2.1 for Micro-Soft Windows 3.X is ready !!!
        ------------------------------------------------------------

LOCATION: itrc::/millspub/mswlogo21.zip (this is a DEC internal location)
            or
          cher.media.mit.edu on pub/comp.lang.logo/programs/mswlogo
            or
          Send the following message to: ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com 
----cut here----
connect 18.85.0.47
binary
uuencode
chdir pub/comp.lang.logo/programs/mswlogo
get mswlogo21.zip
quit
----cut here----

New features/bugs fixed:

   o Cleaned up some errors in help
   o New LOGO commands
        - getpenred,getpengreen,getpenblue,penred,pengreen,penblue
        - getscreenred,getscreengreen,...
        - getfloodred,getfloodgreen,...
        - scrollx, scrolly (LOGO procedures can now control the scrollers)
        - bitcut/bitpaste (very powerfull in logo).
        - infite range zoom.
   o Jagged turtle fixed.
   o Cleaned up garbage and order in error messages.
   o Slimmer commander.
   o Save and restore image now works again and it uses ".BMP" format.
     This opens up a lot of possibilties. You can load in work from
     other applications and visa-versa. Instead of posting your childs
     work on the frige you can make it your windows background !!!.
   o Printing fixed on most printers.
   o And as usual lots of little bug fixes.

To Install it:

1) UnZip MSWLOGO21.ZIP into a directory (e.g. c:\logo)

2) UnZip LOGOLIB.ZIP (included in MSWLOGO21.ZIP) into LIB (e.g. c:\logo\lib)

   Note:  If you do not use c:\logo as the root you must set the
          environment variable LOGOPATH to where you put it (e.g.
          set logopath=d:\games\logo in autoexec.bat)

3) Copy BWCC.DLL (included in the .ZIP) to anywhere in your PATH.
   The could be where you place LOGO (as long as it's in your PATH).
   When I say PATH here I don't mean LOGOPATH. The desired place is
   in your root windows dorectory (e.g. c:\windows).   

4) Start Windows and add Icon as follows:

   a) Select the applications (or other) icon box.

   b) Go into Program manger FILE menu and click on New.

   c) Select Program Item and click OK.

   d) Enter the command for logo (e.g. c:\logo\logo).

   e) Include a working directory (e.g. c:\logo\work) or you'll have ".lg"
      files all over the place (this applies to 3.1 only). I'll try to come
      up with a better solution soon.

Start it from Windows by double clicking the Logo Icon

Start it from DOS by typing "win logo" at DOS prompt (assuming logo.exe
is in your PATH).

Try typing "DEMO" in the "Input Box" (out of bounds at end of demo is normal).
Note: "DEMO" is a logo program in the library, it's not an internal command.

Standard features:

   o Supports Text
   o Cut and Paste.
   o Floodfill.
   o penwidth.
   o Save and restore images in .BMP format.
   o screencolor (background).
   o 16.7 million pen and background colors (using windows dithering).
   o Standard Windows Hypertext Help.
   o Standard Windows Printing.
   o Supports separate library and work area.

Bugs / Basic Missing features:

   o Real mode is not supported.
   o Pause and Trace buttons are there but not implemented yet.
   o pots, goodbye still not working.
   o printing on (very few) printers still doesn't work.
   o Need to make save/restore image smarter (less memory, disk and cpu).
   o LOGO does not use the capabilities of 256-color Video Drivers.
   o NOTE: If your using a Video driver that supports more than 16 colors
           and find LOGO sluggish try reducing to a 16-color. If your disk
           is thrashing while running LOGO you probably do not have enough
           physical memory to support the number of colors your driver is
           using. I'll try to make LOGO more flexible around this (e.g.
           variable size work surface).

Wish list:

   o Need sound/multimedia support.
   o needs debug support.
   o Undo/Redo.

The Core of this Version of Logo comes from a project done by Boston Childrens
Museum and Lincoln Sudbury Regonal High School. The Port to Windows was done
by George Mills Digital Equipment Corporation. Digital Equipment Corporation
takes no responsibility for the software.

There is also a DOS version (with out the added functionality added to MswLOGO)
is available. Same location as MswLOGO.
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