HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:22:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.1#_qd#g
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov4.125431.7208@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.030127.9644@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>Well, thanks for the suggestion, but actually I've always enjoyed thinging
>>with someone else more.
>>Trygve   (Hmmm...I suppose having an election is a pretty good reason
>>          to spend some time thinging.) 
>"So belt out whatever note suits you,
>The rest will join in, each one in his own key.
>And it's fare ye well, all vestige of harmony,
>All of the filkers are thinging."
>                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)

Nothing to do with either, but when you're playing The Addams Family pinball
game, and lock a ball in the swamp, it says 'Good Thingking!'
:)
r.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:53:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.134633.24131@b8.b8.ingr.com>, larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
|> 
|> The breakup happened quite some time after this and had nothing to do with
|> the child, She just got very upset after pressing me for an answer to a 
|> hypothetical question, "would things be better/easier if the child was not
|> there?", I had already demonstrated my LOVE for the child.  I cared very
|> deeply for the child and had no qualms about it not being mine.  I had 
                                                ^^ 
|> (at least I thought) I had proven that beyond doubt, after her divorce I
|> had taken care of her and the baby, I gave her a car to drive, car seat for
|> the baby, took the baby to the doctor, bought it's medication, and unless it
                                                 ^^^^                        ^^
|> was too bad of weather to have the baby out we always took it with us.  It
                                                              ^^           ^^ 
|> was spoiled rotten from all the toys and things I bought it, how can you say
                                                            ^^

Could it have been because you refered to her child as 'it'?  


Chris Hudson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I did *what*?  Sorry, but you've got the wrong guy........
                                                          Save the Sharks!
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 My patience keeps me plaintiff, my high hopes keep me alone
 My lover's will is shakin' - I wish she would just come home...
                                                  - gin blossoms
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rogerk@QueerNet.ORG (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Presidential Poll, Current (10/31/92) results
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:51:04 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <7827@transfer.stratus.com>, markc@eomer.hw.stratus.com (Mark
Christensen) writes:
|> You're right.  I would much rather have a president who says it is okay to
|> take drugs (smoke pot), dodge the draft, and commit adultery.

Or, stated another way, a president who believes in a coherent and intelligent
policy on drugs (which distinguishes between the substances and the crimes that
criminalization attaches to them) instead of an expensive and unsuccessful War
on Drugs, who believes that protest is an integral part of the American plitical
dialogue, and who believes that people's private lives are theirs and theirs
alone to attach moral standards to?  You bet I would.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG              {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!sgiblab!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Education and the Single World
Date: 12 Nov 1992 09:26:06 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
	<1992Nov12.051206.28001@grebyn.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: functor.systemsz.cs.yale.edu
In-reply-to: malak@grebyn.com's message of Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:12:06 GMT

malak@grebyn.com (Michael Malak) writes:

   I have an M.S.  I've never in my life met an unattached woman with a
   PhD, so I can't even imagine the scenario.

Well, there's at least one out here.  :-)  Start imagining!

-Dr. Sandra
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Mr. G. Pickering)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female  boy/guy/male
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:31:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Julia Smith (jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
: In article <BxH37C.n4H@news.udel.edu> todd@chester.cms.udel.edu writes:
: *story deleted*
: >
: >So I ask this group, which has a large % of female participants,  is gender neutral terminology to be expected?
: >
: Todd, the main difference for me is between personal and professional.
: When I am talking to someone on a personal level, I feel no offense
: regardless of the language used - including vulgarity - because it
: is between individuals.  But professionally, I will not tolerate being
: referred to as a "girl," nor am I comfortable with male gender pronouns
: used to refer to groups which include women (such as "the student....he"
: when a female student could very easily be the referent).  For me,
: the defensiveness comes from the very real concern of being dismissed
: professionally because of my gender (school administration is a very
: old-boy network).
:  
: those are my guidelines anyway.  I'll be interested to hear what others
: have to say.
:   
: --j

I agree with what you say, but there is a fine line between what is
reasonable and what I consider silly (flame bait if ever there was one).
I think to refer to you as a "girl" in a professional situation is wrong.
I would also say "the student...he, or she,..." but I would not use the
term "person-kind". When people of either sex go (IMHO) way over the top
by never, ever using the term "man-..." it really strikes a cord and makes
me react against it. Don't get me wrong I consider both sexes and all races
equal, and I beleive in trying to get the rest of mankind to think likewise,
but I think that an obsessive attitute can induce a negative effect
in some people.

Ok, now you can grill me and flame me [Crouches down into a ball]

Guy

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| E-MAIL: G.PICKERING@uk.ac.bham | University of Birmingham,               |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Last Dance for Now
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:51:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.212005.7485@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
> Greetings fellow soc.singelites ...
> 
> We had some major system problems over the past week making it
> impossible to post or read from this location, and today when I
> logged in here there are 4500 articles to read.  Right.  That
> goes back about a week!  Far too many to catch up.
> 
> I just wanted to let you all know that while I've enjoyed the
> discussions of the past few weeks, I'm changing to an assignment
> for about a year that will take me away from regular net access.
> 
> I'm not gone - just on leave.  Hope you all have a great winter and
> spring and summer.  And thanks to those of you who sent me the nice
> Thanksgiving pictures!  :-)
> 
> Take care and don't flame each other *too* much ...
> -- 
> -+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
> Nance Colucci                                      att!ihlpl!colucci
> "It'll be better than before.  Yesterday's gone.  Yesterday's gone!"
> -+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+

Gee Nance, who are we going to be able to yell at if Clinton screws up???

         :-{)}  (smiley with beard and mustache)

In all seriousness (mark this date on your calander, I don't get serious
often) Good Luck and Hopefully I'll get a chance to argue with you again
sometime.  (OK, so I couldn't be entirely serious)



Larry Billings
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*    Sometimes I think it's a shame,     *                                    *
*    when I get feeling better,          *                                    *
*    when, I'm feeling no pain.          *   Should not have got on this      *
*    Sometimes I think it's a sin,       *   FLIGHT, TONIGHT.                 *
*    when I feel like I'm winning,       *                                    *
*    but I'm losing again.               *                                    *
*******************************************************************************
From: daborton@novell.com (David A. Borton)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:24:48 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <Nov.9.17.04.55.1992.23794@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.002512.22431@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov9.215104.2308@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>>>
>>>On the other hand, guys who show up for the sole purpose of meeting hot
>>>babes are spotted immediately.
>>
>><slapping forehead> Ouch! Is that the problem?
>
>No, it's that palm print on your forehead that's the problem.
>
I see!  It's as plain as the nose on my fa....  Wait a minute!  It's GONE!...
Oh, here is is in my hand.

Here am I sitting in a tin can...
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:26:22 GMT

In article <97303@netnews.upenn.edu>, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
> In article <74211@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
> 
> >I like gender-neutral terminology, because I consider it an interesting game 
> >to try to write that way. (Like all games, it can get ridiculous, like when
> >you substitute hubeingkind for humankind.) 
> 
> Or perdaughter for person.
> 
> >As for whether to use it or not, my advice would be to default to the more 
> >common gender neutral terms, like Ms., he or she, humankind instead of 
                                                       ^^^

> >mankind, woman instead of girl, man instead of boy. 
> 
> How about humanity instead of humankind?  Seems a bit more elegant.
              ^^^                 ^^^

Despite our best efforts IT still sneaks in there...

> Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu

Larry Billings
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Hey!
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:30:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Nov11.033014.20129
Organization: The following is all GERG'S fault!

tps@jptcs.com writes:
>Julia Smith (jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
>:
>: Coming through on this end, Tim.  but does that mean I'll never
>: hear from you in private?  This would truly be a tragedy :(
> No... private is always better, and it keeps the rest of <glancing
>left and right, and whispers> "Them" guessing as to what we're up
>to! :)

hey Hey HEY!!!!! None of that here! This is soc.singles.deadly.serious, dammit!
You people keep forgetting that...sheesh!

>G'night, M'Lady...
>Tim

Tyger
-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Married Men
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:40:11 GMT
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus

In article <1992Nov4.235053.27988@jetsun.weitek.COM> weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver) writes:
>
>>If only his eyes didn't light up every time he mentions his wife and
>>children...  Let's just say I'm confused.  I like to think I have
>>morals and would never hurt anyone intentionally, but if he were to
>>make a move...  I'm glad he hasn't.  I hope he doesn't.  I hope I was
>>reading his nonverbal language all wrong and that it was all in my
>>imagination.
>>
>You probably have nothing to worry about. If he is relaxed around you,
>he probably has no intention of doing anything that anyone would regret.

Of course, there's always the possibility that he intends to *do*
something, with no regrets.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Who needs Lime Jello [tm]?  We had lasagna.....
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am wome
Organization: The Cultural Elite
	<JULIE.92Nov8174535@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu>
	<BxFHr2.H0t@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:10:31 GMT

kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

>julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:

>>atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) writes:
>>>Women look for love and find sex while men look for sex and find love!

>>Guess I'm just demanding.  I look for love AND sex AND Scrabble, myself.

>Yes, but have you found it???

I'm getting very close, but I still haven't been beaten at Scrabble by someone
I've loved (romantically).  We all have our little fantasies...

*sigh dreamily*

---Julie

-- 
* loris, n.     Any of several small, nocturnal, arboreal primates of the *
* genera _Loris_ and _Nycticebus_, of tropical Asia, having dense, woolly *
* fur, large eyes, and a vestigial tail.  [French, probably from obsolete *
* Dutch _loeris_, simpleton, clown.]    ---- American Heritage Dictionary *
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:15:02 GMT

wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman) writes:

>    What I'm finding distressing is that rational Republicans (a
>majority of them, to be sure, yourself included) haven't tossed the
>extremists out.  Or walked out themselves.

Yes, this amazes me too.  Maybe Tsongas and Rudmann can get the center
together in a new party.

>(Personally speaking, I *wish* I had been given a choice other than
>Boxer this year.) 

The folks in IL seem to have had the same situation wrt Braun, either
elect a Republican yahoo or someone who is much further to the left
that the state's electorate as a whole.  (And who stole from her mother.)

>    I'm tempted to ask about Herschenson, but you did ask for politeness,...

Around here, Herschensohn is perceived as a supporter of limited
government (and perhaps the only one running as a Republican this year.)

-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Education and the Single World
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 10:36:16 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov10.212218.3329@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome) writes:
>I have a question for you all -- how important is formal education
>versus native intelligence and self-education in those that you are
>romantically interested in?

If your name is Edward Wright, it means everything.
For most of the rest of us, namely myself, I'll take 'intelligent' over
'educated' any day o' the week.
Any goober with half a brain, perseverence and luck can get a college degree.
r.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Subject: Re: Presidential Poll- Some comments from you.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:45:44 GMT

>   In article <MARTINC.92Nov9143115@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>   >In article <1992Nov8.222130.8949@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>
>   >Unless the Good Dissertation Fairy shows up.  And you know how flighty
>   >he is.
>   >
>   >		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
>
>
>
>				   *He* ?
>		   Oh no, I feel the flames boiling now!
>
>				   Steve
>
>
>At least soneone *saw* it.
>--
>		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu


OH NO,  WE'RE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just when I thought my life couldn't get any worse.
Help me, help me,  If there is a God, SHOW YOURSELF UNTO ME !!!!!!!!

P L E A S E  !!!!!!!


					Steve
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith)
Subject: Re: **FIRST*DATE*IDEAS**
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 06:42:24 GMT

In article <BxLzJ3.6zI@mail.boi.hp.com> morrison@boi.hp.com (Glen Morrison) writes:
>So I need some attractive, interesting first date ideas.  I want to impress
>her, but not overly impress.  Also, while we're on the subject, how about
>some DOs and DON'Ts on first dates. More DOs than DON'Ts please. 
>Oh yea, I forgot to mention we're both in our mid-twenties.
>
 My most memorable first date was when the guy showed up with a picnic
basket which held fresh bread, cheese, fruit, and wine.  It was the
middle of FEBRUARY!  We had a most excellent picnic in the living room.
  
  DO:
    Listen to her when she is talking.
  DONT:
    Try to impress with what you know.
  DO:
    Be relatively pressed (many women friends have shared how much
         smell matters.  To that end...)
  DONT:
   Overdo colonge.
  DO:
    Respect her space and take some time to find out what that
    space is.
  DONT:
    Try to rush things, unless you really don't give a damn about
    a second or third time.
  DO:
    Have fun.
  DONT:
    Forget to MENTION that you had fun the next time it is convenient.



Newsgroups: soc.singles,hsv.general,talk.politics.misc
From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
Subject: How the cold war was won. (was: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates)
Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: MCIL
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:48:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.140105.24106@cs.ruu.nl> hansb@cs.ruu.nl (Hans Bodlaender) writes:
>I am a European, working in a computer science department in Utrecht, the
>Netherlands. Suddenly, we get this kind of stupid Bush/Clinton propaganda
>posts in our group general (why usually only contains announcements of peoples
>birthdays here and where to get the cakes, etc.)

Then why did you include hsv.general in followups for this discussion ?

>(It seems to me, as an outsider, that the republicans started with throwing
>with mud. Anyhow, I'm kind of hoping that Clinton will win, because of the
>effects of that to the poorer Americans. By the way, the cold war did end
>mainly because of what Gorbatshov did; the role of Bush was a minor one - in my
>view.)

The reason we won the cold war is because we had a better credit rating than the USSR.
We were able to borrow $2 trillion and spend it on arms, while the USSR tried to
keep up the pace.  They went bankrupt, while we are still in the process of going
bankrupt.

Mark
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Organization: The Cultural Elite
	<1992Nov8.163151.26539@grebyn.com> <BxEzzK.Dsn@access.digex.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:24:40 GMT

huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>malak@grebyn.com (Michael Malak) writes:

>>Here in the Washington, DC area, there is a shortage of men _and_ women
>>in their 20's.

>That can be bad news for some men in their 30s.

>> That fact is not as well known as the one that their is
>>a huge surplus of single women in their 30's.

>Well, it was less well known until you blabbed.  The trouble is that many
>of these women are bitter over events that happened in their 20s.

... when they went out with men in their 30's?  [ 1/2 :) ]

>The current _Washingtonian_ has a big story on The Date From Hell.  The
>promo on the radio mentioned guys who think watching _The McLaughlin Group_
>on TV is foreplay and those who quiz their dates on current events.

*laugh* Hey, sounds like kind of a fun date to me, though my date and I
would substitute McNeil/Lehrer for The McLaughlin Group, and the quizzing
goes both ways.  Arguing politics is great fun.  Still, I can see it
might not be everyone's cup of tea.  Chacun a son gout (translation: "Son 
of a crippled chicken!").

---Julie (27 and not bitter yet :) )
-- 
* loris, n.     Any of several small, nocturnal, arboreal primates of the *
* genera _Loris_ and _Nycticebus_, of tropical Asia, having dense, woolly *
* fur, large eyes, and a vestigial tail.  [French, probably from obsolete *
* Dutch _loeris_, simpleton, clown.]    ---- American Heritage Dictionary *
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Education and the Single World
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:20:26 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <cacqncc@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

>Any goober with half a brain, perseverence and luck can get a college degree.

You forgot money.  It also takes money to get a college degree.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: ABORTION: WHEN Does Human Life BEGIN?
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:34:05 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <1992Nov12.171257.2311@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>                     ABORTION: WHEN DOES HUMAN LIFE BEGIN?
>               This Biblical statement indicates that human life begins 
>          (Soul enters its new body) WHEN THE BODY TAKES ITS FIRST 
>          BREATH OF AIR OUT-side THE WOMB.  Therefore, if an aborted 

I have always believed this statement, and it disgusts me when
people say that life begins at conception.  They say that when
the little spermies and the eggies get together, then that is when
life begins.  However, I have always wondered, how can they get 
together unless the little spermies are swimming towards the eggies?
If they are indeed swimming towards the eggies, then *they* must
be "live" "half-of-human-beings" and as such, protected under our
laws.  Of course, if Roe-vs-Wade is overturned, the next step is
to go after those "ungodly masturbators" who are needlessly killing
thousands of innocent spermies with each ejaculation.  I don't see
Operation Rescue out demonstrating against the killings of 
innocent spermies.  I say that life begins with each ejaculation,
and that we need to incorporate into society a new form of national
police, known as the Spermie Police, who are responsible for 
protecting society against the ungodly masturbators.  Won't you
cum join with me, in lobbying our nations lawmakers, into saying
that life begins at ejaculation?  Thanks a lot.
		8-)	8-)	8-)
--Keith					SOS (Save Our Spermies)

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: L676151@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: SWF iso S*M to be SO
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:20:09 GMT

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