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From: larry@spuds.solbourne.COM (Larry Keryc)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: ESPN Hockey
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:13:04 GMT
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Mark Shneyder (nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu) wrote:
: 
: Some changes in ESPN's 1992-93 coverage include 10-minute pre-games
: and fewer but longer sponsor breaks - four(4) 70-second stoppages per
: period instead of seven(7) 30-second spots.

Mark, 

I don't believe this is ESPN specific.  On one of the Ranger pre-season
broadcasts, the MSG guys said this was a new league wide rule.  In fact,
I noticed the commercials being longer but really didn't pay attention
to how many there were.

Anyone know the reasoning for the change and who requested it?

See ya!

Larry
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From: z5x092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Jeremy Brenton Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Imponderables/ULF!
Date: 17 Oct 1992 03:58:00 GMT
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In <1bnijoINNgkb@gambier.rick.cs.ubc.ca> p7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Anthony Jang) writes:

>This isn't a flame.  This anit-Ulf stuff stems from red necked attitudes
>like the ones spewed out from Don Cherry (who coincidently appeals to
>the lowest common denominator much like the KKK).  If Steve Smity tries
>to break someones' knees then Cherry is blind to it.  That's my two bits

What are you trying to say?  That only rednecks and racists abhor
cheap shots?  And how much do you think Cherry had to do with the whole
anti-Ulf thing?  I think that trying to view this in terms
of your version of political correctness is preposterous.

Jeremy


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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Penalty Minutes Standings so far.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 07:20:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.230218.16703@island.COM> don@island.COM (Don Hermes) writes:
>Does anyone have the standings for penalty minutes so far ?

I plan to post a more complete listing later, but right now, according to
my (unverified) data, entering tonight's games, Keith Tkachuk of the Winnipeg
Jets leads the league with 44.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Wayne Gretzky for Ross and Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 10:54:25 -0400 
From: "Derrick J. Brashear" <db74+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: REPOST: AHL newsletter
Reply-To: db74+ahl@andrew.cmu.edu

Hi all.

Recently I've been talking with Bri Farenell about the possibility of
having an AHL mailing list. I'd be willing to set up the list here, but
I need to know:

a) How many people would be interested.
b) Can someone keep some sort of archive of old posts? I have little to
no room for keeping old posts around.

Anyhow, if you are interested, send mail to: db74+ahl@andrew.cmu.edu

Thanks,

-D
From: kenttj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Oh my God, break up the Nordiques!
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:41:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: cnsvax.1992Oct16.014104.1789
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire


	I must thank the Philadelphia Flyers for all the nice players
they sent us.  With Nolan and Sundin signing long contracts, it seems
the Nordiques core of Sakic, Nolan, and Sundin will be productive for
a while.  It took the Nords until late November to get 4 wins, this
year just 4 games.  An 84-0 season is doubtful, but watch out in the
playoffs!

	Dear Edmonton Oilers,

	Please give Ron Tugnutt back to us.

					Terry Kent
From: daveg@ee.ubc.ca (Dave Gagne)
Subject: Re: Wings1-Jets4
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:50:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.234408.1668@tac.fi> tiok_jtk@tac.fi writes:
>In article <16879A080.SGLENN@cmsa.gmr.com>, SGLENN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>> 
>> The Wings lost the season opener 4-1 to Winnipeg last night.
>> Bob Essensa played spectacular in goal for Winnipeg, and rookie
>> Teammu Selane (sp?) looks like a candidate to chase Lindros in
>> rookie of the year.
>
>Name is Teemu Sel{nne (Selaenne? Does anybody know how it is printed on
>his back?) and if I know right, he assisted two goals...and you're
>right, he will be a canditate in rookie of the year chase. But I think
>"Big Eric" will be more famous than Teemu, because he is Canadian and
>Teemu is only "somebody from a strange country"...

I'm sure this comment will generate a fair bit of junk mail, but
I haven't seen any yet, so here I go:

Last years Rookie of the Year was Pavel Bure of the Vancouver
Canucks. Bure is certainly from a country which is just as "strange"
as Selanne is.

Perhaps Selanne does have a chance after all ...

Dave
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From: jwodzia@dino.eng.clemson.edu ()
Subject: Rules Change?
Reply-To: jwodzia@dino.eng.clemson.edu ()
Organization: Clemson University Engineering Department
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:03:21 GMT



I noticed in USA Today the other day that the suspensions being served(to be 
served) Bernie Nicholos and Mike Keane are according to the "New" Rules.
What are these new rules? If I remeber they used to be for a number of games, 
i.e. a 5 game suspension. What changed here or is there something I'm missing
?

John


The last time the $%#@%@#$%@#%@#$% Rangers won the Cup was three weeks after my
mother was born...the last time the $#%$@#%$#% Jets won the SuperBowl was
3 weeks after I was born. Hmmmmmmmm.


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From: bnc@portia.si.macsch.com (Brian Casey)
Subject: Re: Rookie Watch
Organization: The MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:56:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.164744.6834@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>Points scored last night:
>
>Sacco		2
>Selanne		2
>Tkachuk		2
>Lindros		1
>
>:-) :-)
>

Alexei Zhitnik of the Kings also had 2 assists last night in the win
over Calgary

Brian Casey
bnc@macsch.com
From: mmaccorm@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Mike Mac Cormack)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: STATUS:Cam Neely??
Keywords: Injury?
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:27:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: fox.mmaccorm.34
Organization: Micronav International

In article <Bw0st0.C7y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sstolten@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Scott Stoltenberg) writes:
>Help!!!  I have picked Cam Neely in a fantasy hockey league draft and
>I have to decide now whether to a)put him on the IR list  b)keep him active
>c)release him.  I haven't seen his name in any scoring columns and I don't 
>know if he has returned from his injury.  Any informations would be 
>greatly appreciated.

>Scott Stoltenberg
>sstolten@s.psych.uiuc.edu


The latest I have heard is that Neely is skating again and expects to return 
in about Mid to late November.

Mike
Micronav International Inc
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From: giant@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Soul Doctor)
Subject: Flyers fans whine at Cap Centre!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:37:48 GMT


Flyers fans that come to the Cap Centre are whiners,
cry babies, you name it.  I was sitting in  208
when some bald headed man, wearing a Lindros
jersey (do all Flyers fans ride off Lindros already?),
started Flyers chants.  That's cool, I have no problem
with that.  But what pisses me off is that
he and his drunk buddies get pissed off when the Caps
fans yell at him and start chants of their own.  What
does he expect?  Coming in to a home team's building and
not expect to get yelled at?  So, Mr. Bald Whiner goes
to the security and cries to them, and thus has the
bodyguard he so dearly wanted.  All the Flyers fans
tried to pick fights, too.  It is real fun to have
to sit with a bunch of event staff protecting some
whining out of town fan who would have got his ass
kicked had he not had the protection.  I hope
all Flyer fans aren't like this...

Any Cap fan sit near/in this section that can
back me up??  Any fan want to see Ciccarelli back
and Langway sent to pasture?


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From: carrie@edwards.WPI.EDU (Carrie A Ayers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: New Minor League Hockey Magazine/Paper
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:58:30 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <farenebt.719119778@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell ("Droopy")) writes:
>I saw the new mag put out by the AHL called Rinkside. I was NOT
>impressed. It was very superficial and was not particularly in
>depth. I guess I had to expect that considering it was an insert
>to the game program (free). The only thing that I liked was
>the interview with AHL president Jack Butterfield (who will
>be retiring in 1994).


I got a couple copies of it too.  I thought it was ok, better than
most coverage we get in the AHL.  This was only a smaller version 
of what you will get if you subscribe to the magazine.  It had 
some articles on certain players, which I thought was a great idea.
I mean how often do you get to read interviews with other teams
players?  However, it does have one bad thing going for it, Neil
Scully is writing for it. :)


Carrie
carrie@wpi.wpi.edu
GO INDIANS!!!!!!!!
GO ISLANDERS!!!!!!
From: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Scathing hockey article
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:17:14 GMT
Reply-To: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.; Campbell, CA
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In-reply-to: am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas)

In article <Eer9ElG00UhWM62Wo3@andrew.cmu.edu>, am2x+@andrew (Anna Matyas) writes:
>Reprinted without permission from "SPORTSCOMM (Cleveland's Only All Sports
>Newspaper!" (October 7-20, 1992)  Free!"
>  i have a problem with mr. gordon complaining about people not
>attending a hockey game in cleveland during a time of year when football
>and baseball are being played.  he'll have plenty of time to complain
>about nobody going to minor league hockey games when the pro bowlers
>tour is the hottest thing around.

I don't know about football this year because I don't follow it, but as
per usual, the Indians were not exactly setting the league on fire.  I
wonder how many people they drew during their last home stand?

And besides, baseball and hockey are complimentary, not incompatible.  I
watch both, and I enjoy the slow (some would say unbelievably slow) pace
of baseball, whereas the fast, non-stop action of hockey is quite
different, and generates a whole different sort of interest.  Why choose
one or the other when you can watch both?  And the hockey and baseball
seasons only overlap slightly, anyway.  And besides, in the Bay Area,
where there are two baseball teams (one of whom was in post-season
play), and a competitive football team, the Sharks are *still* selling
out every game.

It's always easier to make snide remarks than it is to learn about
something, I guess.
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From: tiok_jtk@tac.fi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Wings1-Jets4
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:44:08 +0300
Organization: Finnish Ice-Hockey League

In article <16879A080.SGLENN@cmsa.gmr.com>, SGLENN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
> 
> The Wings lost the season opener 4-1 to Winnipeg last night.
> Bob Essensa played spectacular in goal for Winnipeg, and rookie
> Teammu Selane (sp?) looks like a candidate to chase Lindros in
> rookie of the year.

Name is Teemu Sel{nne (Selaenne? Does anybody know how it is printed on
his back?) and if I know right, he assisted two goals...and you're
right, he will be a canditate in rookie of the year chase. But I think
"Big Eric" will be more famous than Teemu, because he is Canadian and
Teemu is only "somebody from a strange country"...

   Jonne Siren / FIHL

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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Winnipeg Jets
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:30:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw6MEE.DtE
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

kdc@ccu.umanitoba.ca () writes:

>In article <Bw4Gyq.Iqt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard) writes:
>>golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>>
>>>I thought Winnipeg could be a contender, but they have started rather
>>>slowly.  
>>
>>Hey!  It's only been 4 games.  The season is 84 (ugh) games long.
>>Still it is 4 games, and I expected (desired) a better showing than
>>they have had.  LA is one of the teams they have to beat for crying
>>out loud, and losing to SJ was not good either.  
>>
>>The season is young, however, and I do have Selanne is pool; he's
>>scored in each of the 4 games this season.  :-) 
>>

> Hang in there, Evan !   

>  The JETS broke out of their slump last night, pasting the Oilers 7-3.
>(I LOVE to watch them beat the Oilers, even if they are a shadow of
>  their former self.)

Ditto.  
 
>SELANNE got his first hat trick (4 points for the night)! 

The Temmu Selanne consecutive game scoring streak is now at 4 (on its
way to 84).  :-)   (oh, and yes, I do have him in a pool, how kind of
you to ask).   

>  Now, if they play like this again on Friday, they should be very able to
>avenge the loss to the Canucks....

I hope they do, I really do. 

 
=================== 
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From: hamlet@stein.u.washington.edu (Mitch McGowan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Minnesota-Tampa Bay Summary
Keywords: hockey, men's professional
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:38:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct12.163811.9494
Organization: University of Washington

clarinews@clarinet.com (United Press International) writes:

Tampa Bay                        0 1 0--1
Minnesota                        1 1 0--2
        First period--1, Minnesota, Courtnall 2 (Broten), 0:29.
Penalties--Hamrlik,Tam, 5:19; Ludwig, Min, 7:42; Tucker, Tam, 8:48;
Ciccone, Min, 15:04. 
        Second period--2, Minnesota, Broten 2 (McPhee, Courtnall),
0:13. 3, Tampa Bay, Crossman 1 (Cole, Dimaio), 10:06. Penalties--Craig,
Min, 1:47; Semenov, Tam, 4:29; Reekie, Tam, 13:51.
        Third period--No scoring. Penalty--Gagner, Min, 10:57.
        Shots on goal--Tampa Bay 7-9-4--20. Minnesota 8-15-12--35.
        Power-play conversions--Tampa Bay 4-0. Minnesota 4-0.
        Goaltenders--Tampa Bay, Young. Minnesota, Casey. A--14,322.
        Referee--Mike McGeough.

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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Rookie Watch
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 16:47:44 GMT

Points scored last night:

Sacco		2
Selanne		2
Tkachuk		2
Lindros		1

:-) :-)

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Wayne Gretzky for Ross and Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Dean Evason for Selke!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Norris!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: jrupert@fraser.sfu.ca (Jason David Rupert)
Subject: Re: Lindros NHL TV debut
Keywords: TSN, opinions?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:16:26 GMT

p7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Anthony Jang) writes:

>Well I've been waiting a long time to see Eric Lindros play a NHL game, 
>against the Nordiques no less.  He was quite prominent in the game, but
>somehow I wonder if he is as good as I've been told.  I realize he scored
>two goal tonight, but couldn't someone like healthy Tim Kerr have put those
>pucks in as well?  And I never remembered Kerr being called the second
>coming.

>As you can probably tell I am not a big fan of Lindros.  He is a good player,
>perhaps when Philly surrounds him with more talent he'll be better.  But as
>far as being compared to Gretzky or Lemieux, I just don't see that.  That's
>my opinion, what's yours?

He's only 19, he's played 4 regular season NHL games and has 4 goals, while
playing on what is considered to be one of the weaker teams in the league.
I think he tops a healthy Tim Kerr, even before we consider that he can
play a hell of a physical game too.  Of course the comparisons to Gretzky
and Lemieux are premature, but don't be surprised if they ARE reasonable
in five or six years. 


Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:02:13 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Imponderables/ULF!


I was browsing in the CMU bookstore yesterday and came across a book
of imponderables.  One of the questions on the cover was "Do penguins
have knees?"

I thought for a moment and then said, "Ulf Samuelsson certainly does."

:)

Mom.


Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 12:36:25 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Pens Uniforms

In article <92281.223920MCR114@psuvm.psu.edu> Mike Rapach <MCR114@psuvm.psu.edu
 writes:
>>Hi folks. I was watching the game on Tue night, and the first thing
that came >t
>>o mind was "God, those uniforms are ugly."  The diamond thing on the
shoulders
>>is what does it.  It's just not as sleek or stylish as the old
version.  I >real
>>ly wish they would have reconsidered this before the season started. I
can >live
>> with the logo (barely) but the uniforms are bad.

Howard Baldwin's explanation of the new penguin logo is that it is
very modern  It *is* slick and sleek -- a very 90s thing, if you will.
He feels we need to be progressive in our look.  This doesn't explain
the archaic road jerseys, though.

I have seen the new logo in various iterations (one is the logo, followed
by PITTSBURGH
   PENGUINS
in scripted lettering, slanted to the right) which is nice.
It gives one the feeling of movement.  (It may give some people the feeling
that their lunch is coming up -- hence the movement -- but I like it.) 

Mom.



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 08:26:11 -0400 
From: "James J. Murawski" <jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: On ice ads


On 08-Oct-92 in On ice ads                   
user Lori Iannamico@cs.cmu.ed writes:
>I want to ask your opinion, netters.  How do you feel about on ice
advertising?
> 
>For those of you who saw the KBL or ESPN broadcast of the Pens-Flyers game,
>you saw that Bob Johnson's quote "It's a great day for hockey" has been
>removed from the ice.  But what is on the ice (in addition to the Pens 
>logo) is the word "Foodland" in bright red.  Foodland is a local grocery store
>chain.
> 
>I thought this looked rather tacky.  The boards and the rest of the arena are
>used for advertising, and that's fine.  There's a lot of revenue to be made
>that way.  And I'm sure Foodland paid big bucks to get its' name on the ice.
>And Baldwin said in yesterday's Greensburg Tribune Review that this works out,
>he'll sell more ice space.  But I think it looks cheesy, and more ads would
>make it worse.
> 
>I guess I'm being old fashioned.  I just think ads don't belong on the ice.
>How does everyone else feel about this issue?

I don't think it's a big deal.  There was more "writing" in the neutral zone
last year at the Civic Arena.  Last year, there was the NHL 75th logo in two
corners of the neutral zone, the Pens 25th logo in the other two corners, and
"It's a Great Day for Hockey" along the blue lines.  This year, we've only
got the Stanley Cup's 100th logo in two corners, and the Foodland logo in
the other two.  The Foodland logo doesn't seem too distracting because it's
just a simple red "Foodland".

However, I don't think that any more "writing" should be added to the neutral
zone.  Four corners of the zone with "writing" is enough.

As much as I liked the Badger's quote on the ice, I think it's more fitting
to have that new banner honoring him hanging from the rafters.  I also recall
Craig Patrick saying last season that Badger's quote would only be on the ice
for last season.

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    Administrative Systems              (412) 268-6868  [fax]
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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Pens Uniforms
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:40:46 GMT

> of everything......As far as the road uniforms go I don't like copying off
> the Rangers - you'd think the Pens could keep their own identity.  But the
> Rangers are a great team - I guess it's Baldwin's way of saying "Hey We're
> a great team too."                                -Rob

Then again, maybe it's Baldwin's way of hinting that there likely will
be a long dry spell once the current stars are over the hill :-).
What might hockey fans be saying about the Penguins in, say, 2045 if
they're still playing in Pittsburgh?
	-Steve

[Apologies in advance to any offended Rangers fans. :-)]
From: mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Ron Francis Stats
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:19:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: scott.1992Oct16.041935.10244
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

According to my information in Pittsburgh's box scores, Ron Francis
has 4 assists.  Unless those boxscores are incorrect, then he should
have 4.
Matt