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From: stephenad@brt.deakin.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Jazz Primer updated ??
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:59:47 EST
Organization: Deakin University, Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: rana.cc.deakin.oz.au


I am about to leave my job and wander aimlessly about the planet
and was wanting to take the new improved version of the previously
posted Jazz Primer with me.

Any chance of it being available in the coming week ??

Stephen.
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From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Re: Carol Sloane
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:18:33 GMT

In <1992Dec18.134022.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbas26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:

>Hi,
>  I'm new to this news group but I wondered if someone could give me 
>some info. on Carole Sloan. I have heard a couple of her albums
>but dont know much more (excuse my ignorance!) One song stayed in
>my mind.....it was called I Could have Told You So
>but I dont know who wrote it. Any information would be great


Carol Sloane (the e is on the Sloane, not on the Carol) has been
singing - with a significant interruption - since the late
fifties/early sixties (my Japanese isn't good enough to identify the
copyright date on her first lp - now available on a Japanese import
cd).  She first came to notice substituting for Annie Ross in
Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross and as the 'girl' singer with Larry
Elgart's band.  Her first recording was Out of the Blue (I think that
was the first - I remember playing it on a big band radio station I
worked for in 1958-59 and 1963-64, but just which time I couldn't
say, though the former is the best guess).  It's now out on CBS/Sony
import from japan (32DP 616).  She was mostly out of the business in
the 70's (the liner notes refer to time spent singing in clubs in
Raleigh, NC), but has come back with some very listenable albums in
the 80's.  The earliest I have is a 1982 Japanese session on FourStar
(FS-40049) with Don Abney, piano; Yukinori Narishige, bass; and Tim
Homer, drums (okay, but not as good as the next three).

1988 Love You Madly Contemporary CCD 14049
with Art Farmer, Clifford Jordan, Kenny Baron, Richard Rodney
Bennett, Kenny Burrell, Rufus Reid, and Akira Tana.  An impressive
crowd, eh? [This is my favorite]

1990  The Real Thing Contemporary CCD 14060
with Phil Woods, Mike Renzi, Rufus Reid, Grady Tate.  Another
distinguished bunch.

1991  Heart's Desire Concord CCD 4503
with her regular backup group:  Stefan Scaggiari (piano), John
Lockwood (bass), Colin Bailey (drums)

If there are others - most likely imports - I would appreciate
knowing about them.  I recall from my radio days that there was a
second album, but I can't remember much about it.

I Could Have Told You So is on Love, You Madly and was written by
VanHeusen-Sigman.

Stan Jones (sjones@ccs.carleton.ca)      ()
Centre for the Study of Adult Literacy  |\/|
Carleton University                     o  o
Ottawa, Ontario                         |  |
K1S 5B6                                  \/
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: ghfick@acs.ucalgary.ca (Gordon H. Fick)
Subject: Re: Penguin Guide
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:41:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <7014@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk writes:
>I've had quick glances at it - it claims to cover everything that is
>currently available. I don't know if this is true but it is extremely
>comprehensive and incredibly up to date; it had a review of Keith Jarrett's
>'Vienna Concert' even before I knew it had been released! I haven't bought
>a copy yet though I did try to win one in the Wire's competition but failed.
>I don't know how you could get a copy in the US; presumably you could get it
>by mail order from the UK but the postage on it might be rather high.


The guide is available in Canada retailing at CAN$29.99. Their
desert island discs (with *****) include several clear choices
like: Kind of Blue, A Love Supreme, Waltz For Debby, Genius of
Modern Music and Parker's Dial Masters but also includes such
names as:
Peter Brotzmann (Machine Gun) FMP0090
Ganelin Trio (Catalogue) Leo LR102
Lars Gullin (Volume 5) Dragon 181
Alexander Von Schlippenbach (Pakistani Pomade) FMP0110
Vienna Art Orchestra (Minimalism of Satie) hatArt 6024
John Zorn(The Big Gundown) Elecktra 979139

I would be interested in any independent reviews of these last
six discs. Are they REALLY desert island material?



-- 
Gordon H. Fick - Department of Community Health Sciences
University of Calgary - Calgary, Alberta CANADA T2N 4N1 - (403) 220-6939
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From: block@dxlaa.cern.ch (Frank Block)
Subject: Re: Descarga Record Co.
Reply-To: block@dxlaa.cern.ch (Frank Block)
Organization: CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:38:08 GMT


In article <1992Dec13.180130.1601@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, qureshi@bmerh185.BNR.CA (Emran Qureshi) writes:
|>             
|> I agree with the sentiments of the last poster.  I recently ordered some
|> CDS from Descarga.  They came pretty quickly, and their 'backorders'
|> were filled within days.
|> 
[...]
|> 
|> Thats it - hope it helps.
|> 
|> Emran
|> 
--
What about people on Europe? Do they also send things overseas?
Frank

===============================================================================
Frank Block
Div. PPE
European Laboratory for Particle Physics - CERN
CH-1211 Geneve 23					BLOCKF@cernvm.cern.ch
Switzerland						BLOCKF@vxcern.cern.ch
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Re: Niels-Henning Orsted-Pedersen (NHOP)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:01:30 GMT

The Penguin Jazz Guide has an index that will direct you to all the
recordings that they include on which NHOP plays.  I do not have it
with me at work but I recall the list being very long for him.
From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: "Jazzy" blues??
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:28:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Try T-Bone Walker ...
From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: On liner notes
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:21:15 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

saul+@pitt.edu (Alan B Saul) writes:
>Continuing this thought with Michael Cuscuna:
[liner notes from an Ayler record - "Ghosts"? ]
>24. "He did not grow out of modern jazz's evolutionary processes as had George
>Russell, Cecil Taylor, John Coltrane and Archie Shepp. The beauty and heritage
>of the saxophonist's music opened up for me personally, when I heard a rather
>rare tape of the Eureka Brass Band of New Orleans, a band of black musicians
>that were part of jazz's inception and development. The spare,straight rhythms
>with strange syncopated undercurrents, the variable pitch of the horns, ...

[rest of description omitted ... buy the album!!]

So, ever since I read this and listened to Ghosts,  I've been wondering about 
the Eureka Brass Band.  Has anyone out there ever heard the music Cuscuna
is talking about, or any early New Orleans brass bands?  Are they anything
like present day brass bands (Dirty 12, Rebirth, ...) or are we talking
something wilder here?
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: patlo@microsoft.com (Pat Loughery)
Subject: Re: Niels-Henning Orsted-Pedersen (NHOP)
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:54:05 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Dec17.064615.6826@exu.ericsson.se> exubma@exu.ericsson.se wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I don't think anybody would argue that NHOP is one of the best
> bass players alive (if not the best). I have a few albums on which
> he appears and I would appreciate any comments on other albums featuring
> this fine musician. A discography (even if partial) would be great. I have the
> following albums:

"The Best of Count Basie", on Pablo

----------------------------------------------------------------------
            Pat Loughery [patlo@microsoft.com] Seattle, WA
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"I had no shoes and I pitied myself. Then I met a man who had no feet,
                so I took his shoes."   -- Dave Barry
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu (Jeff Knell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Niels-Henning Orsted-Pedersen (NHOP)
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:40:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Genetics, University of Utah

Bassam Madi writes:

   I don't think anybody would argue that NHOP is one of the best
   bass players alive (if not the best). I have a few albums on which
   he appears and I would appreciate any comments on other albums featuring
   this fine musician...

=======================================

NHOP plays on:

  "Stephane Grappelli/Young Django"   MPS  815 672-2

with:  Larry Coryell and Philip Catherine.

Some good swinging Django standards and more, with 
excellent NHOP solos, and lively (if not always controlled)
guitar playing.  Stephane blazes, as usual.


jeff

feitctaj
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:48:13 EST
From: <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: McLaughlin's ex-bassist, Kai.

does Kai have a world wide class room or is he teaching in one location.
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: gwl@world.std.com (Glenn W Lea)
Subject: Re: 1993 David Murray releases and Jazz at the Middle East
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:12:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.013907.20442@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery) writes:
>One other interesting quote from the article: after talking about his
>appearance tonight with the AMerican Jazz Orchestra at Cooper Union (in NY),
>he said "I'll probably never get to play with the orchestra they have
>at Lincoln Center, with Wynton Marsalis and all of his cousins, and all
>their dogs and cats, family and generation."
>
According to the VOICE, the Murray concert will be the AJO's swan song,
due to lack of funding.

BTW, Murray ripped up Cambridge's Middle East Cafe last night with
Bluiett, James Spaulding and African Drummers Mor Thiam and Mar Gueye.
The downstairs room is clean, spacious, comfortable and seems to be
the upcoming avant jazz room.  Tonight is Ivo Perelman w/ Joanne
Brackeen and Andrew Cyrille.  Later this year there's a triple bill
with Tim Berne, Jane Ira Bloom and Tom Chapin and the New Years' Eve
gig is Don Pullen's African Brazilian Connection.  Good luck to them,
though they really need to get their shit together about advanced
ticket sales and starting times.

And Murray's new "Sanctuary Within" on Black Saint is a winner --
Tony Overwater (b), Sunny Murray (d) and Kahil El' Zabar (perc).

Glenn

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman)
Subject: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY  PLEASE ANSWER**
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:59:03 GMT


*****  SIMPLE SURVEY -- PLEASE READ *****

I have seen much talk about Sinead on the net lately, 
and was wondering what the general opinion of Sinead
was.  Please take the 20 seconds it takes to reply to
this question and answer it.  (A simple Y or N will do).
Please use your newsreader's reply option or regular
email to submit votes -- do not post your answer.

Question:
Do you still support (or have a general good opinon of)
Sinead O'Connor?

If you wish to send detailed replies as to why or why not,
please do, but they are not required.  Thanks in advance!

Jason Boardman
boarjas@elof.iit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Konitz on Company
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:31:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.152414.3050@telesciences.com> jbulyk@telesciences.com (Jerry E. Bulyk) writes:
>    "Barre Phillips, the bass player, was also on that tour, and I ... 
>remembered playing with him in New York in the 1960s, when he was a good, 
>solid straight-ahead bass player. In Europe, I didn't hear any vestige of that 
>...  and I remember asking him why that nice sound he had and that nice sense 
>of time would be something he would leave behind completely."

I wonder what Barre said in response.

>    Tap-danced literally?
>    "Sure. He and I were playing a duet and I had my eyes closed and suddenly
>heard this rhythmic tapping noise. I opened my one eye and saw him dancing
>around the stage, so I danced along with him, just a little bit, as I continued
>to play."

Those LCJO guys are very theatrical.

Jeff
From: lm@armelle.cma.fr (Lionel Menard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Blues/Jazz
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: lm@armelle.cma.fr (Lionel Menard)


	Hi, I would like to have information about a guitarist call Don MOCK.
I know he did a video call "The blues from rock to jazz" but I havn't find
any record of him or participation in other bands. 
	Any info will be appriciate.
		Thanks in advance
-- 




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From: mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo)
Subject: Re: Questions about Booker Little records
Organization: The Poto Mitan in the Houmfor
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:00:58 GMT
Keywords: Booker Little, Donald Byrd

> saul+@pitt.edu (Alan B Saul):
> Does anybody have any discographical information about these mystery tcb Booker
> Little records?
> 
> tcb 1003: booker little/booker ervin
> sounds of inner city
> Souchie, Cycles, Stardust, The Confined Few, Blues de Tambour, Witch Fire
> 
> tcb 1004: Donald Byrd/Booker Little, with Curtis Fuller, Bill Evans, Paul
> Chambers, Armando Perazo, Philly Joe Jones, Willie Rodriguez
> The Third World
> Chasing the Bird, Prophecy, Ping Pong, Construction, Quiet Temple, November
> Afternoon, Call to Arms, Wee Tina

Please post whatever you find out. I've been puzzled and frustrated by the
lack of information on TCB 1003 for years, until I thought it was just
some sleazoid bootleg and label, so I am actually surprised that there is
a TCB 1004.


-- 
Marcel-Franck Simon             	mingus@usl.com, usl!mingus

	" Papa Loko, ou se' van, ou-a pouse'-n ale'
	  Nou se' papiyon, n'a pote' nouvel bay Agwe' "
From: gel@sys.uea.ac.uk (Gareth Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Common ground between Jazz and G. Dead?
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:06:36 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

erxleben@ece.arizona.edu (Wayne Erxleben) writes:

>Hello--

>It seems to me that the Dead's approach to live playing has much
>more in common with jazz than it does with most present-day
>rock'n'roll.  They often put 20-minute modal improvisations in

>Wayne Erxleben

Jerry Garcia (sp?) collaborated with Ornette Coleman 3-4 years back on
an LP by his band Prime Time (called Virgin Beauty, I think).  This is
my only exposure to GD.  He seemed pretty good. . fitted in well with
the loose feel of the group.  Good funky sound!!  Music for listening
to in the bath. . nuff said.

Gareth Lee.
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Niels-Henning Orsted-Pedersen (NHOP)
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:28:58
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: exubma@exu.ericsson.se's message of 17 Dec 92 06:46:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.064615.6826@exu.ericsson.se> exubma@exu.ericsson.se (Bassam Madi) writes:
   He played with Dex Gordon, but I cannot remember on which records.



Also with Albert Ayler, on one of his earliest dates (My Name Is
Albert Ayler).
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: yen@stsci.edu (Felix Yen)
Subject: Re: Muddy Waters Discography
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:34:25 GMT


Damballah Wedo (mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com) and Oded Maron
(oded@fiber-bits.ai.mit.edu) both have nice things to say about
Hard Again.  I am compelled to dissent.  The album has its moments
and Muddy's performance is very strong, but I find the music itself
a bit stiff, almost mannerist at times.  Unfortunately, I cannot
recommend a better disc.  (The remainder of my Muddy Waters
"collection" was taped from a radio program.)


Felix
yen@stsci.edu
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Giuffre's FREE FALL (was: FLIGHT)
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:00:55 GMT
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu

Jerry Bulyk:
>  I was really interested in checking-out their third and final 
> studio release titled FREE FALL.  FREE FALL is supposed to be the
> natural progression into their free-est date. Can someone comment 
> on FREE FALL, its availability and compare it wrt to FREE FALL?

On availability, well let me put it this way: I've been looking for
Free Fall for over a year, in several different cities known for
good jazz record stores. I don't even know of somebody who owns
a copy...

There are also versions of the Giuffre Trio with Barre Phillips, 
which I'm of course dying to hear...

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: tygar+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Tygar)
Subject: Re: 1993 David Murray releases
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:34:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.013907.20442@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery) writes:
>Apparantly, the Sony/DIW deal is for only a small number of the DIW releases,
>not all the DIWs. And the SONY US releases are sometimes well after the
>DIW release date: The Cecil Taylor/Art Ensemble and the Murray SPECIAL QUARTET
>were available in Europe for well over a year before the SONY releases.

A record store owner claimed that the Sony/DIW deal was exclusive; that is,
the previous methods of distributing Japanese DIW releases in the US
have been cancelled.  I don't know if this is true or not, but I do notice
that Cadence is not distributing new DIW releases, and they are closing
out their stock on the old DIW releases. I haven't seen any new non-Sony
DIW releases in places such as Tower in quite some time.

I'm not sure that the above applies to Avant releases -- these are carried
in Cadence and in places such as Tower.
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Name That Note
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: net
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:12:49 GMT


The following are short quotes from the liner notes of some of my
favorite records.  Can you recognize (or guess) who wrote them and
for which records?  Sorry, no prizes.


(1)	About myself.  I'm thirty years of age and was born in
	Texas -- Fort Worth to be exact.  Since there isn't too much
	I haven't told you about my music, I really told you about
	myself through it.

(2)	This is NOT music to roller skate by.

(3)	so much flashes through my mind when i hear the tapes of this
	album that if i could i would write a novel about it full of
	life and scenes and people and blood and sweat and love.

(4)	With disgust for the American recording industry, I give you,
	the public, this day seven people set to free themselves in
	music.

(5)	Difficult as it may be to believe, one of America's foremost
	small-band drummers (and the band leader at that!) has led his
	group through the recording of an entire album, did it in front
	of a hip New York nightclub audience -- and did NOT even ONCE take
	a drum solo!



(1)	Ornette Coleman, THIS IS OUR MUSIC

(2)	A.B. Spellman, in Eric Dolphy's OUT TO LUNCH

(3)	ralph j. gleason (``look ma! no caps!'') for Miles Davis'
	BITCHES BREW

(4)	Charles Mingus, TOWN HALL CONCERT, 1964, VOL. 1

(5)	Ed Sherman, on Art Blakey's UGETSU


Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: lawton%ecfa@jesnic.jsc.nasa.gov (Eric G. Lawton)
Subject: Laserlight jazz cd's - summary
Organization: Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:13:39 GMT

Thanks to everyone you responded to my questions on laserlight jazz cd's.  
I summarized peoples comments on individual releases below. To keep it 
short I left out credits and took the liberty of editing the comments (I 
hope this doesn't upset anyone).

The Les Paul Trio - "the material was obviously mastered from 78's but the 
sound quality is not too bad - I enjoy this disc"

Ellington Birthday Sessions - "The quality of the recordings is 
excellent... and the quality of the playing is very good"

Nat King Cole Trio - "got a couple of the Nat King Cole Trio ones and they 
seem like a fair bargain"

Joe Pass '6 String Santa' - "The recording quality was OK but ... it 
sounded like a throwaway session"

Bird, Dizzie & Sarah Vaughan collection -  "dates back to 1945 and leaves 
much to be desired"

Stan Getz - "The sound quality leaves much to be desired ...  And the 
performances do not seem very good"


and finally
"Stay away from LaserLight anything! ...  The owner of Rose records also 
owns LaserLight. It's a budget CD line. To keep the prices low, the owner 
bought the rights to odd, quirky, or technically poor recordings."

So ... it really seems pretty much hit or miss with these disks.  One gets 
what one pays for.

Thanks again,

Eric G. Lawton
lawton%ecfa@jesnic.jsc.nasa.gov

My opinions and views are not necessarily those of my employer.

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