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Subject: "EVIDENCES OF THE EXISTENCE OF ALLAH (THE GOD)", the post
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:09:24 GMT
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From: irfan@maxwell.ece.wisc.edu (Irfan Alan)
Subject: EVIDENCES OF THE EXISTENCE OF ALLAH (THE GOD)
Date: Wed Jan 20 11:40:03 1993
 
A HEAVY BLOW ON THE HEAD OF ATHEISTS, 
NATURALISTS AND MATERIALISTS
 
A TRANSLATION from the COLLECTION OF RISALE-I NUR
"RISALAT-UT TABI'AT" (A TREATISE ON NATURE),
AUTHORIZED by Bediuzzaman Said Nursi.
 
NARRATOR: IRFAN ALAN
 
A DROPLET FROM THE VAST OCEAN OF MIRACULOUS QUR'AN
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                   PART 1 
                
AUZUBILLAHIMINASSAYTANIRRACIYM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIYM
(I seek refuge to Allah from the Satan rejected, stoned. 
 In the name of ALLAH, the Merciful, the Compassionate)
 
 
A REMINDER:
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THIS TREATISE explains through Nine Impossibilities, 
which themselves comprise at least ninety impossibilities, 
just how unreasonable, crude and superstitious is the 
reality of the way taken by those naturalists who are 
atheists.  Since these impossibilities have been explained 
in part in other sections of the Risale-i Nur, and to cut 
short the discussion here, some steps in the arguments have 
been skipped.  It suddenly comes to mind, then, how is it
that those famous and supposedly brilliant philosophers
accepted such a blantantly obvious superstition, and 
continue to pursue that way?   Well, the fact is that they
could not see its reality, and I am ready to explain in
detail and prove through clear and decisive arguments to 
whoever doubts it that these crude, repugnant and
unreasonable impossibilities are the necessary and 
unavoidable results of their way; in fact, the very gist
of their creed.(1)
 
 
(1) What occasioned the writing of this treatise were the
attacks being made on the Qur'an by those who called
everything that their corrupted minds could not reach a
superstition who were using nature to justify unbelief,
and wery vilifying the truths of belief in a most aggressive
and ugly fashion.  Those attacks stirred up in my heart 
an intense anger which resulted in those perverted
falsifiers of the truth receiving vehement and harsh
slaps.  Otherwise,  the  way  generally  followed  by the
Risale-i Nur is a mild, polite and pursuasive one.
 
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IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, THE MERCIFUL, THE COMPASIONATE.
 
Their prophets said, "Is there any doubt about
Allah, Creator of the heavens and the earth? (2)
 
(2) Qur'an 14:10
 
   BY DECLARING through the use of a rhetorical
question that there cannot and should not be any
doubt about Allah SWA Almighty, this verse clearly
demonstrates the divine existence and unity.  But before
explaining the meaning of this, I shall mention a further
point.
   When I went to Ankara in 1911, the morale of the
people of belief was extremely high as a result of the
victory of the army of Islam over the Greeks. But I
saw that an abominable current of atheism was 
treacherously trying to subvert, poison and destroy
their minds.
"Oh Allah!", I said, "this monster is going to
harm the fundamentals of belief."  At that point 
the above-mentioned verse makes self evidently 
plain Allah's existence and  unity, I sought 
assistance from it and wrote a treatise in Arabic 
consisting  of a proof taken from the All-Wise 
Qur'an that was powerful enough to disperse and 
destroy  that atheistic current.  I had it printed 
in Ankara at the Yeni Gun Press.  But, those who 
knew Arabic were few and those who considered it 
seriously were rare.  Also , its arguments was in 
an extremely concise and abreviated form.  As a result, 
the treatise did not have the effect it should have 
done and sadly, that current of atheism both swelled 
and gained strength.  Now, I fell compelled to explain 
a part of the proof in Turkish.  Since certain parts 
of it have been entirely explained in other sections 
of the Risale-i Nur, it will be written in summary 
form here.  Those numerous proofs in part unite 
in this proof; so each may be seen as an element 
of this proof.
 
PART ONE:  Oh Man!  You should be aware that there 
are certain phrases which are commonly used and 
imply unbelief.  The believers also use them, but 
without realising their implications.  We shall 
explain three of the most important of them.
 
THE FIRST:  "Causes crate this."
THE SECOND:  "It forms itself; (it comes into 
existence and later ceases to exist.)"
THE THIRD: "It is natural: nature necessitates 
and creates it."
 
Indeed, since beings exists and cannat be denied, 
and since each being comes nto existence in a wise 
and artistic fashion, and since each is not beyond 
time but is being continuously renewed, then, 
Oh falsifier of the truth, you are bound to say 
either that the causes of the universe create 
beings, for example, this animal; that is to say, 
it comes into existence through the coming together 
of causes, or that it forms itself, or that its 
coming into existence is a requirement and necessary 
effect of nature, or that it is created  through 
the Power of One All-Powerful and All-Glorious. 
Since reason can find no way apart from these four, 
if the first three are definitely proved to be 
impossible, invalid, and absurd, the way of Allah's 
Unity, which is the fourth way , will, necessarily 
and self evidently and without doubt or suspicion, 
be proven true.
  
 THE FIRST WAY:  .....  
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  TO be continued Allah Willing;
  Narrator is Irfan Alan, Servant of Islam.   
-- 
A. TRENT PHILLIPS |" A mirror is a negative space with a frame and a place for
  also known as   | your face, it reveals what the rest of us see. It conceals
   WHITE  ROOK    | what you'd like you to be."--Blue Oyster Cult
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