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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: v6.0-3 patches: Do they fix SET PROFILE/LINE ?
From: CADS_COLE@GALLUA.BITNET
Date: 01 Sep 1992 08:07:36 -0500
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Greetings.
 
I'm not on the mailing list due to limited disk space at this end, and for some
reason I cannot fathom, Computer Services here elects not to carry this
newsgroup.  So, I would greatly appreciate an e-mail reply.
 
At the moment, it appears that our SET PROFILE/LINE command doesn't work.  A
SHOW PROFILE reveals that LINE mode has been enabled, but I still have to do a
SET LINE by hand every time I use NEWS.
 
Several months ago, I had an e-mail session with Bob Sloane at the University
of Kansas about some other problems with NEWS.  He informed me about the Larry
Wall patches.  I then passed the word onto our Computer Services people.  As
usual, I got no response and the patches were never applied.  But I'm trying
again.  ;-)
 
Do the Larry Wall patches also take care of the /LINE stuff?  Bob told me that
they take care of a number of problems including some of the return address
stuff and the message about hitting ESC for Wakito Menus.  But he didn't tell
me everything they did.  Is there a list?
 
Thanx for any info.
 
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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: News callable editor interface.
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:05:31 +1000
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <28AUG199219423751@eql.caltech.edu>, rankin@eql.caltech.edu (Pat Rankin) writes:

[me]
>> I used to have ANU-News call TPU with an init parameter.  My
>> login.com had this;
>> $   define	news_edit		"tpu/init=sys$login:kcminit.eve"

[Pat]
> GCC.  I don't have time at present to go in and figure out how to fix
> it, or even check whether this warrants a fix.  Have you tried setting
> up the editor in your NEWS profile instead of via a logical name?
> That may or may not work better in this case...

I tried to use the set profile commands as well.  The action is
quite consistant. :-)

It's not a major problem.  The code now does what the
documentation says it should and there is an easy two line .com
example with the distribution.

Thanks for the response.

Carl.

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: gibian@talent.ljo.dec.com (Marc S. Gibian)
Subject: News, email, and text retrieval
Reply-To: gibian@ljohub.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:56:00 GMT


One of my personal pet peeves is the lack of integration between database
technology and news readers and email products.  The most valuable feature
of both news and email is the database of information that accumulates over
time.  There has been a great deal of research in the area of information
retrieval in the database segment of the computing community.  But I have
never run across a news or email program that provides features based on
this work.  So we all end up with megabytes of valuable information, with
little facility to make use of it!
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From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: inews for the Next???
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:52:52 EDT
Reply-To: whs@magdalen.dmc.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

Apologies for asking this blind, I don't normally carry this
group.  I have a client that is looking for inews software for
the Next.  Can this be gotten from the net?  If so, where.  Reply
to this message using mail, I've changed the reply-to field to
point to:

        whs@magdalen.dmc.com

who is the person searching.

Thanks.

Dick Munroe
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From: ddml@visual1.jhuapl.edu (Dave Libershal)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Where can I get xrn?
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:53:33 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins University/APL

In article <1992Aug25.174104.9121@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>, ddml@visual1.jhuapl.edu (Dave Libershal) writes:
> 
> I currently have xrn version 6.13 on my DS5000 (this was loaded in the fall
> of 1990 without the man pages). I'm assuming that there is a more recent
> version but don't know where to get a copy. I need the man pages for xrn and
> might as well get the latest version while I'm at it.
> 
Thanks to several folks for helping me with this one. ic.berkeley.edu is the
home of xrn. Latest version is 6-17 and it can be downloaded with anonymous
ftp. There are also several patches available which were recommended. 
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: tin installation -- local spool, central indexing
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:17:43 GMT

I'm attempting to install tin on a DECstation 5000/240 running Ultrix
4.2a.  I want tin to retrieve articles from a local news spool and,
since this filesystem will support well over a thousand users,
maintain index files via tind.  The documentation, however, is
incredibly unclear on how to compile tind and tin to look for index
files in a single location rather than in each user's $HOME/.tin
directory.  Can anyone give me some pointers as to the compilation
flags, Makefile options, crontab entries, etc.?

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From: sdm7g@aemsun.med.Virginia.EDU (Steven D. Majewski)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: News, email, and text retrieval
Keywords: IMAP, NNTP, LOTUS, Mitch Kapor
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:44:20 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Aug31.135600.13812@engage.pko.dec.com> gibian@ljohub.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>One of my personal pet peeves is the lack of integration between database
>technology and news readers and email products.  The most valuable feature
>of both news and email is the database of information that accumulates over
>time.  ... 

The Interactive Mail Protocol (IMAP) has features to search mailbox files
remotely and only transfer the messages that match the search critera. 
Several request may be outstanding, and thus possibly be processed in parallel.

IMAP has extensions to support shared-mailbox type "mailing list". 

Both POP ( post office protocol ) and IMAP based programs use SMTP as the
*sending* protocol. It might be a good idea to similarly decouple the 
sending and reading parts of NNTP, and perhaps extend IMAP to News reader
access.

I don't yet have any experience on what capabilities of the protocol
current client/server implementations actually support. I've only just
started looking into this topic, but I'm motivated by concerns similar
to the ones you expressed. 

--- 

There was an article in Atlantic by James Fallows some many months ago
where he was praising a LOTUS product ( the name escapes me, but he said
it was the last one that Mitch Kapor had started before leaving the company )
that uses an AI rule base to maintain research files. One can add a new 
set of rules for a new topic at any time - the program will then grind 
away for several hours to sort thru your current files, but after that,
it runs in the background to scan new data files. What he loved about it
was that, unlike most database type products, you didn't have to know 
under what topics or keywords you wanted it indexed before your filed it. 


I should also mention things like WAIS and Gopher archives. 


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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: pek@logos.res.utc.com (Paul Kirschner)
Subject: Re: How do I get tin to print?
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:56:22 GMT

Iain Lea (Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net) wrote:
: Paul Kirschner (pek@logos.res.utc.com) wrote:
: :
: : I've got tin V1.1 PL5 running on a Sun Sparc 2 with SunOS 4.1.2.  I
: : used the default Makefile pretty much as is.  Whenever I print an
: : article tin says "1 article printed" but nothing ever comes out.  
: : 
: : My printer is "lp".  I tried "setenv PRINTER lp" but that didn't work
: : either. 
: 
: Hmm. You want to print to 'lp' (The print program I take it). SunOS is
: BSD derived so I setup the DEFAULT_PRINTER in tin.h to be 'lpr'.
: 
: You have 2 choices:
: 1. Set the DEFAULT_PRINTER to lp in tin.h to '<path>/lp' and recompile.
: 2. Set Option 18 in the 'M' options menu to 'lp' with required options.
: 
: Iain
: 
: --


Please forgive my poor choice of of terms.  SunOS is a BSD style style
as you say and is print command is /usr/ucb/lpr.  The default print
device from my /etc/printcap is lp (n'est pas??).  Your answer is not
what I meant, sorry for the confusion :-( .

Anyways - how do I get tin to print articles?  Tin responds "1
Article(s) printed" but nothing ever get into the print queue!

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Patching trn with rn patches?  Anyone done this?
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:36:32 GMT

The latest trn, 2.2, is based on nearly the latest rn, 4.4.2.
However, there have been a couple patches to rn (up to 4.4.4 now).
Has anyone applied the patches to trn 2.2 and if so, does anything
"break"?  Just sort of curious.  (I'd like to replace rn 4.4.4 with
trn 2.2, but I had a user who ran into a problem in 4.4.2 that 4.4.4
fixed, and I don't want to "lose" him.)

						...Mike

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Latest Version of rn?
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Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:03:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.233627.13272@ctr.columbia.edu> ucs_rjd@SHSU.EDU writes:
:Is there a later version of rn above 4.4?  And is there a way to make Unix
:rn look like Vax rn without much trouble?  

rn 4.4.4 is the latest version, as far as I am aware, and the latest
version is always available for anonymous FTP from lib.tmc.edu.

The simplest way to make rn look like "Vax rn" is to run Ultrix or BSD
on your VAX.  :)  Seriously, I take it you're using a VMS system.  I'd
find out more specifically what program you run that you're invoking
with "rn".  I'm familiar with several newsreaders for VMS, none of
which is popularly called "rn".  

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From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: query about newsreaders
Date: 30 Aug 92 01:03:53 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <3779@tiamat.fsc.com> jim@tiamat.fsc.com ( IT Manager) writes:
>Which news readers will show me an article that's cross-posted to
>several groups, even if the group I'm reading isn't the FIRST group on
>the newsgroups line?  Is there a simple change to the Bnews 'vnews' reader
>to get this behavior?

Deep inside vnews, there's a couple of lines you can comment out
that will prevent this behaviour.  I looked there once, but forgot
the details.  The problem being, of course, that the resultant
behaviour sucks.

rn's behaviour is better.  It will show it to you in whichever newsgroup
you encounter it first.  If you mark it unread (M for instance), you will
see it again in the next newsgroup it's cross-posted to.

Trn is a bit better still - its base behaviour is the same as rn,
but when trn shows you the thread diagrams (Geoff called 'em "hunt the
wumpus" diagrams ;-), if you use the thread navigation keys, it'll
show the article to you in the proper place in the thread whether or
not you've read it before in another newsgroup.

>Actually, to make followinf threads easier, I think I'd like an article to
>be shown to me while reading every group it's posted to.  Then, if I
>recognize it, I can just skip it.

Ick.  There's more than enough news without having to remember which
ones you've seen before.
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From: jim@tiamat.fsc.com ( IT Manager)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: query about newsreaders
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:44:54 GMT
Organization: Ahlstrom Filtration - Chattanooga,TN

Which news readers will show me an article that's cross-posted to
several groups, even if the group I'm reading isn't the FIRST group on
the newsgroups line?  Is there a simple change to the Bnews 'vnews' reader
to get this behavior?

Actually, to make followinf threads easier, I think I'd like an article to
be shown to me while reading every group it's posted to.  Then, if I
recognize it, I can just skip it.

Thanks.
From: bkush@us.oracle.com (Brian Kush)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Mail prefix in VMS News
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:45:50 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I am using VMS News V6.0-1 (14-Nov-1990) and am trying to mail an 
article to someone.  In order to mail an article I need to use an
address such as wins%"user@site.com", the wins% sending it out
thourh Wolligong software.  However the mail facility in VMS News
keeps putting in% automatically on for me where wins% needs to
be.  Can the default be over ridden or a differnt default set?

Thanks in advance.

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From: cathyf@is.rice.edu (Catherine Anne Foulston)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Latest Version of rn?
Date: 27 Aug 1992 19:55:10 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <BtnB2A.Hu0@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com> writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.233627.13272@ctr.columbia.edu> ucs_rjd@SHSU.EDU writes:
>>...is there a way to make Unix rn look like Vax rn without much trouble?  

>I'm familiar with several newsreaders for VMS, none of
>which is popularly called "rn".  

A lot of people seem to think that "rn" is merely an abbreviation for
the name of a program they know as "rnews" or "readnews."  I have
trouble with this all the time when people ask questions about
installing newsreaders.  "rn" may be an abbreviation of the words
"read news" but it is not the same program.  This ought to be in the
FAQ list that someone threatened to make about news administration --
if someone remembers who it is that's doing that, please email me.
Thanks.

	Cathy
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: dougvoss@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Douglas Voss)
Subject: big .newsrc files made by XRn
Keywords: XRn
Organization: Vanderbilt University, School of Engineering
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:32:03 GMT

In the process of installing XRn, we realized that XRn stores all of the
available newsgroups in the .newsrc file, as well as in the .oldnewsrc. With over
3500 groups available locally, that translates into about 170k per user.

Has anyone patched XRn to avoid this?  I recognize this would require giving up
the ability to identify newly created newsgroups, but reluctangly consider it
worth the price.   

Ideally this would be implemented as a command line option to allow users who are
not concerned about disk space to enable the listing of all newsgroups in the
.newsrc file.  Also, if the smaller .newsrc file were being used, the user should
obviously not be placed in "Add newsgroup" mode every time the server is
rescanned and finds all these "new" groups.

Any comments or advice are welcome.  (BTW, please don't say `Buy a bigger disk!')


-- Doug Voss
-- Vanderbilt University
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: mikec@praxis.co.uk (Michael Chace)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: PC Newsreaders
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:33:57 GMT
Organization: PraXis Systems plc, Bath, Avon UK

Hi Folks,

I'm looking for a DOS based Newsreader/poster that is able to read 
news from a spool held on the PC's disk rather than via an NNTP server. 

Are there any of the currently available programs that can do this.

Thanks, Mike
From: ucs_rjd@SHSU.EDU
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Latest Version of rn?
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:36:27 GMT
Reply-To: ucs_rjd@SHSU.EDU
Organization: Sam Houston State University, Huntsville, Texas
X-Posted-From: freya.shsu.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Is there a later version of rn above 4.4?  And is there a way to make Unix
rn look like Vax rn without much trouble?  
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

Raphael Donato
Unix System Services
Sam Houston State University
Huntsville, Tx 77341
Email: ucs_rjd@shsu.edu
From: kimd@gizmo.usc.edu (Kim Daugherty)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Painless news client install for sun4
Date: 4 Sep 1992 11:39:54 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gizmo.usc.edu


Does anybody have a painless installation of either a nn or rn news client
for the sun4?  I am having many headaches trying to install a generic package.
I am running SunOS 4.x.  
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: seant@sunfish.ratsys.com (Sean D. True)
Subject: Re: PC Newsreaders
Organization: Rational Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:26:07 GMT

In article <MIKEC.92Aug25123357@cantor.praxis.co.uk> mikec@praxis.co.uk (Michael Chace) writes:
>From: mikec@praxis.co.uk (Michael Chace)
>Subject: PC Newsreaders
>Date: 25 Aug 92 12:33:57 GMT

>Hi Folks,

>I'm looking for a DOS based Newsreader/poster that is able to read 
>news from a spool held on the PC's disk rather than via an NNTP server. 

>Are there any of the currently available programs that can do this.

>Thanks, Mike

The VMAIL reader from FTP Software uses a local spool -- but it may be in a
proprietary structure. That's why I use Trumpet ...
================================================================
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: News, email, and text retrieval
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: ANL A433, Siemens AG., Germany.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL6]
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:30:36 GMT

Marc S. Gibian (gibian@talent.ljo.dec.com) wrote:
: 
: One of my personal pet peeves is the lack of integration between database
: technology and news readers and email products.  The most valuable feature
: of both news and email is the database of information that accumulates over
: time.  

I could'nt agree more with your views.

I have already stated that a future version of TIN will  
News & Mail (ala nn but different concept). In the short term I am
working on adding a net contacts database  (probably file to begin 
with) that allows one to keep relevant info about people you find
interesting on the net (ie. Name, Email, Phone etc.) with easy to
enter syntax direct from within tin. Queries on this will be added
at a later date.

A database/retrieval system is certainly required behind future
newsreaders to better use the info. that one saves from the net.

I know that Tom Christainson (tchrist@convex.com) has a program
(plum ?) that integrates all 3 areas (News, Email, Database).
Plum (?) was posted to comp.lang.perl (?) sometime last year. As
I think Tom uses lqtext text indexing & retrieval. The downside
is one requires large amounts of diskspace to hold the indexed
info.

Iain

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: How do I get tin to print?
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: ANL A433, Siemens AG., Germany.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL6]
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:39:01 GMT

Paul Kirschner (pek@logos.res.utc.com) wrote:
:
: I've got tin V1.1 PL5 running on a Sun Sparc 2 with SunOS 4.1.2.  I
: used the default Makefile pretty much as is.  Whenever I print an
: article tin says "1 article printed" but nothing ever comes out.  
: 
: My printer is "lp".  I tried "setenv PRINTER lp" but that didn't work
: either. 

Hmm. You want to print to 'lp' (The print program I take it). SunOS is
BSD derived so I setup the DEFAULT_PRINTER in tin.h to be 'lpr'.

You have 2 choices:
1. Set the DEFAULT_PRINTER to lp in tin.h to '<path>/lp' and recompile.
2. Set Option 18 in the 'M' options menu to 'lp' with required options.

Iain

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