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From: taka@fxis.fujixerox.co.jp (Takahiro Kanbe)
Newsgroups: fj.os.msdos
Subject: Re: Does DOS/V work on AX ?
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:58:07
Organization: Fuji Xerox Information Systems Co., Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.
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In-reply-to: amaike@nekobus.tt.kubota.co.jp's message of 7 Sep 92 08:13:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.081324.21561@kubotaj.tt.kubota.co.jp>
	amaike@nekobus.tt.kubota.co.jp (Takeshi Amaike) writes:
> In article <KAWAHARA.92Sep3130521@mtcs1.mtc.telcom.oki.CO.JP> kawahara@mtc.telcom.oki.CO.JP (Taro Kawahara) writes:
> >
> >CGA $B$H(B EGA $B$N6&B8$d!"(BCGA $B$H(B VGA $B$N6&B8$O$G$-(B$B$^$9$,!"(B
> >EGA $B$H(B VGA $B$N6&B8$O$G$-$J$$$H;W$$$^$7$?$,!#(B
CGA$B$8$c$J$/$F(BMDA$B$8$c$J$$$s$G$9$+(B?

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From: void@global.co.jp (Youichi Kusakabe)
Subject: Re: COMMAND.COM switch (In Japanese/Kanji)
Organization: Global Science Co., Ltd.
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:01:23 GMT

yuki@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ITO Takayuki) writes:
: C$B$r;H$&(B($B$^$?$O!"(BC$B$G=q$+$l$?%W%m%0%i%`$r;H$&(B)$B$H$-!"(B
: system() $B4X?t$N:n$j$,$&$+$D$@$H(B($B%9%$%C%A%-%c%i%/%?$r8+$:$K(B 
: "COMMAND /C xxx" $B$J$I$H$d$C$F$$$k$H(B)$B%3%1$k$H;W$o$l$^$9(B
: ($B@N$N(BMS-C $B$H$+(B)$B!#(B

	$B$$$^$N(B(6.0$B!"(B7.0) MS-C$B$N(B $B%i%$%V%i%j!<$N(B
	system() $B$G$b$=$&$8$c$J$J$$$G$9$+(B?
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From: tokioka@fs.kyoto.omronsoft.co.jp (Ryohei Tokioka)
Subject: Re: Hanako's file
Organization: OMRON SOFTWARE Co., Ltd. Kyoto, Japan.
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:01:41 GMT

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In article <TOKIOKA.92Sep9145505@hfs203.fs.kyoto.omronsoft.co.jp>
	tokioka@fs.kyoto.omronsoft.co.jp (Ryohei Tokioka) writes:
 |$B!!$"$k%D!<%k$r:n@.$9(J$B$k$?$a$K!"2V;R(J Ver.1 $B$N?^7A%G!<%?$N9=B$$rCN(J
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From: s91m801@kansai-u.ac.jp (Marone / Takashi Murase)
Newsgroups: fj.os.msdos
Subject: Re: COMMAND.COM switch (In Japanese/Kanji)
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:06:17 GMT
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In-reply-to: h-tukaha@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp's message of 10 Sep 92 10:40:00 GMT


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In article <H-TUKAHA.92Sep10104000@spls50.nmit.mt.nec.co.jp> h-tukaha@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Hiroki Tsukahara) writes:
>	 $@:G6a$N%=%U%H$O!$%9%$%C%A%-%c%i$rBe$($J$/$F$b!$(J/ $@$r(J
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From: h-tukaha@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Hiroki Tsukahara)
Subject: Re: COMMAND.COM switch (In Japanese/Kanji)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:40:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
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	<SANPEI.92Sep9172857@poisson.kw.phys.keio.ac.jp>
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan


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 >In article <1992Sep6.065249.12161@kei.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> yuki@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ITO Takayuki) writes:
 >
 > >  $@%9%$%C%A%-%c%i%/%?$NJQ99$G$9$,!"#C$r;H$&!J$^$?$O!"#C$G=q$+$l$?%W%m%0(J
 > >$@%i%`$r;H$&!K$H$-!"(Jsystem() $@4X?t$N:n$j$,$&$+$D$@$H!J%9%$%C%A%-%c%i%/%?(J
 > >$@$r8+$:$K(J "COMMAND /C xxx" $@$J$I$H$d$C$F$$$k$H!K(J$@%3%1$k$H;W$o$l$^$9!J@N$N(J
 > >MS-C $@$H$+!K!#(J

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	$@<B9T%U%!(J$@%$%k$N!$(Jstring $@$r%@%s%W$7$F$_$k$H!$(Jcommand.com /c
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	(mifes$@$G(J ^^;)

 >	  $@$3$l(J$@$KBP$7$F$NBP:vMQ>oCs%=%U%H(J xsystem (by Yamashi)$@$,$"$j$^$9!#(J
 >	  $@$I$3$+$N(J ftp site $@$KCV$1$k$+D4$Y$F$_(J$@$^$9!#(J
 >	  $@CV$1$k>l9g$O$3$A$i$K$I$3$KCV$$$?$+%l%]!<%H$7$^$9!#(J

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From: furuta@srarc2.sra.CO.JP (Atsushi Furuta)
Subject: Re: COMMAND.COM switch (In Japanese/Kanji)
	<1992Sep1.082214.5580@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
	<HOSOKAWA.92Sep3164916@frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> <848@can.juice.or.jp>
	<1992Sep6.065249.12161@kei.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:08:22 GMT
Distribution: fj

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In article <1992Sep6.065249.12161@kei.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
  yuki@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ITO Takayuki) writes:

>   $BB>$K$b(B$B!"%9%$%C%A%-%c%i%/%?$,(B / $B$N$H$-$K(B "dir/w" $B$ODL$k$,!"%9%$%C%A%-%c(B
> $B%i%/%?(B$B$r(B - $B$K$9$k$H(B "dir -w" $B$H%9%Z!<%9$r6u$1$J$1$l$P$J$i$J$$!J$J$<$@(B
> $B$+$OCN$j(B$B$^$;$s$,!K$J$I!"$A$^$A$^$7$?f+$,$"$j$^$9!#(B

  path $B$N%G%j%_%?$r4^$^$J$$(B$B!"695A$N%U%!%$%kL>$H$7$F!"(B"dir-w" $B$O@5Ev$K(B
$B$J$C$F$7$^$&$N$G!"(B"dir-w" $B$G0l(B$B$D$N%3%^%s%I$H$7$F2r<a$5$l$k$+$i$G$9!#(B 
MS-DOS $B$N%U%!%$%kL>$H$7$FITEv$J(B$BJ8;z!"Nc$($P(B + $B$r(B switchar $B$K$9$k$H!"(B 
"dir+w" $B$O%U%!%$%kL>$H$7$F2r<a$N$7$h(B$B$&$,$J$$$N$G!"(Bdir $B%3%^%s%I(B $B$K(B w $B%*(B
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From: yuki@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ITO Takayuki)
Subject: Re: COMMAND.COM switch (In Japanese/Kanji)
Reply-To: yuki@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: Dept. of Info. Sci., Fac. of Sci, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan.
	<1992Sep1.082214.5580@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
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Distribution: fj
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 06:52:49 GMT

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$@$r8+$:$K(J "COMMAND /C xxx" $@$J$I$H$d$C$F$$$k$H!K%3%1$k$H;W$o$l$^$9!J@N$N(J
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  $@B>$K$b!"%9%$%C(J$@%A%-%c%i%/%?$,(J / $@$N$H$-$K(J "dir/w" $@$ODL$k$,!"%9%$%C%A%-%c(J
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$@%A%-%c%i%/%?$NJQ99$O$*$9$9$a$7$^$;$s!#(JDOS $@$O(J $@$7$g$;$s(J DOS $@$G$9$+$i!"(J
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From: syu@staka.spec.co.jp (Syuichi Takahashi)
Newsgroups: fj.os.msdos
Subject: Get free memory size (In Japanese/Kanji)
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:07:55 GMT
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Organization: SPEC, Saitama, Japan

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$B9b66=(0l(B (Syuichi Takahashi)                     E-mail: syu@staka.spec.co.jp
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From: sanpei@kw.phys.keio.ac.jp (Yoshiro Mihira)
Subject: Re: COMMAND.COM switch (In Japanese/Kanji)
Organization: Dept. of Phys., Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan
	<1992Sep1.082214.5580@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
	<HOSOKAWA.92Sep3164916@frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> <848@can.juice.or.jp>
	<1992Sep6.065249.12161@kei.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:28:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.065249.12161@kei.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> yuki@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ITO Takayuki) writes:

 >  $@%9%$%C%A%-%c%i%/%?$NJQ99$G$9$,!"#C$r;H$&!J$^$?$O!"#C$G=q$+$l$?%W%m%0(J
 >$@%i%`(J$@$r;H$&!K$H$-!"(Jsystem() $@4X?t$N:n$j$,$&$+$D$@$H!J%9%$%C%A%-%c%i%/%?(J
 >$@$r8+$:$K(J "COMMAND /C xxx" $@$J$I$H$d(J$@$C$F$$$k$H!K%3%1$k$H;W$o$l$^$9!J@N$N(J
 >MS-C $@$H$+!K!#(J

	$@$3$l$KBP$7$F$NBP:vMQ>oCs%=%U%H(J xsystem (by Yamashi)$@$,$"$j$^$9!#(J
	$@$I$3$+$N(J ftp site $@$KCV$1$k$+D4$Y$F$_$^$9!#(J
	$@CV$1$k>l9g$O$3$A$i$K$I$3$KCV$$$?$+%l%](J$@!<%H$7$^$9!#(J
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From: good@mt.canon-soft.co.jp (TEZUKA Yoshitomo)
Newsgroups: fj.followup
Subject: Re: What is ...
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:35:57 GMT
	<1938@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> <1941@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp>
	<1992Aug21.045827.12161@jaist-east.ac.jp> <1955@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp>
Reply-To: good@mt.canon-soft.co.jp (TEZUKA Yoshitomo)
Distribution: fj
Organization: CanonSoftware Inc., Japan
In-reply-to: mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp's message of 24 Aug 92 03:36:39 GMT

In article <1955@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) writes:

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From: kono@enterprise.mtl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Newsgroups: fj.followup
Subject: How to handle mohta discussions
Date: 6 Sep 92 06:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: kono@mtl.u-tokyo.junet
Distribution: fj
Organization: H.Tanaka Lab. Electronic Engineering, University of Tokyo, Japan.

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From: saitoh@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp (SAITOH Akinori)
Newsgroups: fj.followup
Subject: Re: What is ...
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:55:18 GMT
Organization: tokura-lab., Osaka Univ., Japan

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In article <KANEKO.92Aug31113738@axiom.icsi.Berkeley>, kaneko@icsi.Berkeley.EDU (Seiji Kaneko) writes:
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From: pharms@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Hello
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:26:33 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hi Yoshinori,

How are things?  I am continuing the postdoctorate research with my advisor
and continuing to send out resumes.  I sold my car and bought a 1989
Mercury Tracer which is slightly bigger and more comfortable.

Maybe Kitada and I can visit sometime?  Or if you are by this way, give me
a buzz.
My phone is 217-355-5793

Kitada San's phone is 217-359-8788 in case you dont have it.

Have a good weekend, week and etc.!

Paul H.
From: rjh1@FORTH.STIRLING.AC.UK
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Have Fun in Japanese
Date: 15 Sep 92 07:41:18 GMT
Distribution: fj

NOt quite sure what all the fuss is about with this 'have fun'
expresssion !!!

You can say 'tanoshinde kudasai' (from tanoshimu) without any problems
to convey the same meaning as 'have fun'

Also, the difference between o-genki ni and o-daiji ni is that the
latter is used when someone is not feeling well. When I first went to
Japan my mother made me a cake and iced on 'o-daiji ni' which she
found in my textbook (Colloquial Japanese - Hamamura) which gave the
English gloss of 'take care'.... my Japanese friend who came round for
dinner as well could hardly contain himself !!!! Don't first year
students do this sort of thing all the time !!

Anyway hope this sheds some light on this 'problem'... tanoshinde neeee
!!

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From: CKELLEY@USUHS.UCC.USUHS.NNMC.NAVY.MIL
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re:  Have Fun in Japanese
Date: 13 Sep 92 17:55:59 GMT
Distribution: fj


	For several years I have asked my professors the same question:  How
do you say "Have fun" or "Enjoy yourself" in Japanese?  Without exception
each has responded with the same answer:  We can't say that.

	When I asked why, none could give me a definitive answer but one
hedged with an explanation that one would be imposing ones will on another
and that would be impolite.  When I asked what made "o-genki ni" and "o daizi
ni" different from something like "o-tanosimi ni", the answer was something
like "because that's the way it is".  I let it go at that.

	I'd be most interested in your findings.  O-daizi ni.

	Charles Kelley
	Learning Resource Center (LRC)
	Uniformed Services University (USUHS)
	Bethesda, MD

	CKELLEY@USUHS.BITNET
	CKELLEY@USUHS.UCC.USUHS.NNMC.NAVY.MIL.INTERNET
From: JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Yukara Japanese word processor
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:57:07 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hi,

  How or where can I get DOS/V, can I FTP it?

  Thanks!  8-)
From: perrenod@renaissance.cray.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:03:00 GMT
Distribution: fj

Have fun -> O-tanoshimi, ne!
From: RWESTMOR@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Grammar
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:11:00 GMT
Distribution: fj

I have run across two grammatical constructions that are not in any grammar
text book that I have ever seen [I've seen quite a few], so I thought I'd
share them here.
(1) As a variation on -shinakereba naranai, -shinereba naranai
    This can be found in an essay by Tatematsu Wahei published in The Nihongo
    Journal, March 1992. "souraapaneru ha dekiru dake menseki wo toraneba
    naranai no de ..."  (In order to reduce the area of the solar panel as
    much as possible ...) Another citation is by the linguist Fukui Naoki,
    in a book edited by Inoue Kazuko entitled Nippon Bunpou Shoujiten (p 94).
    The sentence is too long to quote, but the word he uses is nasareneba
    naranai = must be done.
(2) Also from Nihongo Journal, this time April 1992, an essay by Tawara Machi,
    the user of the particle wo followed by mo: "Keigo to iu no ha, jouge dake
    de naku shinso wo mo arawasu." (Keigo expresses not only relative social
    status, but also degree of familiarity.) According to the text books, mo
    should replace wo, both should not appear together. My wife (who is
    Japanese), explains that wo mo adds emphasis ("kyouchou"), like saying
    "and also" or "also ... as well."
From: Dave_Spence.Ebina_PBU@FUJIXEROX.XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re:  o daiji ni
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:39:19 GMT
Distribution: fj

Sep 15, 1992

>o daiji ni< is definitely used when a person is already ill or has recently
been ill, but it also can be used whether the person is or is not sick. It is
used as >Take care of yourself<.
It's a polite expression that, in many instances, can be used interchangeably
with >karada ni ki wo stukete kudasai< or >buji ni kaette ne<, etc.
In this sense, it is just another polite phrase used in 'breaking off' a
conversation.
>o-tanoshimi ni<, on the other hand is used to express a wish that you >enjoy
yourself<. Although >go yukkuri< strictly means >take your time<, it implies
that you should enjoy yourself.

Dave Spence

P.S. Many Japanese, especially males, like to perpetuate the myth that the
Japanese don't >have fun< or >enjoy themselves< and so they say things like,
>Oh, we don't say that in Japanese<.  Don't you believe them. All Japanese
males are not stern, serious samurai like in the movies. Believe me, they
enjoy.
From: tvp@GIBDO.ENGR.WASHINGTON.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: 12 Sep 92 03:02:34 GMT
Distribution: fj

In article <9209112100.AA17520@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>
>	Howdy!  I see that you got a response to your way to translate
>"Can I ask a favor"-- perhaps you could help me with a similar problem.
>
>	Neither I nor my friends can come up with a decent translation for
>"Have fun!"  I realize that this is partly cultural, but do you have any
>idea if there's any analogue?

How about: "Otanoshimi ni!" Whatever it is the listener is supposed to
tanoshimu is left to contest. And it's not wierd or anything; it's what
Japanese actually say.

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
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From: 100032.1076@COMPUSERVE.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: YOSHINORI SASAKI - MEMPHIS TENNESSEE
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:34:48 GMT
Distribution: fj

15 SEPTEMBER

Hello Yoshinori
Greetings from Warkworth (rural town, pop. 2000). Warkworth is one hour
north of Auckland City (New Zealand's largest city).

We live on a farm and have overseas guests come and visit us and enjoy a
holiday on our farm. We are learning Japanese. It has been slow learning
for us. We look forward to having more Japanese stay with us, so we can
help them improve their English and practice our Japanese on them.

MEMPHIS IN MAY INTERNATIONAL FESTIVAL HONOURS NEW ZEALAND - MAY 1991
Yoshinori, I travelled to Memphis (in May 1991) to take part  in the
celebrations that Memphis hosted for New Zealand. It was a great honour
for me to be in Memphis for ten days (I could not stay for all the
celebrations). We in New Zealand appreciate all that Memphis did for New
Zealand. One day I wish to travel back to the U.S.A. and meet with old
friends and make new ones.

Do you live in Memphis? How many Japanese live in Memphis? Is there a
Japanese Friendship society in Memphis? We are members of the Auckland -
Japan Friendship Society.

I must close now Yoshinori and we look forward to hearing from you or any
other person who would like to send us message.
Best wishes from.


Roger & Heather MacKenzie
P.O. Box 46
Warkworth
New Zealand
Fax: +64-9-425-8517
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