From: roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
Subject: Re: a glimpse of chaney hall's veracity
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:30:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.173308.8090@csus.edu> chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
>>chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
>>-> PatricKKK, we know you are a major liar around town.

>Here are a few instances:
>1) "I have DOCUMENTATION."

I remember this instance.  It seemed clear to me that Patrick misspoke 
-- he meant confirmation, not documentation.  I pointed the error out 
to him and he quickly corrected it (roughly 24 hour turn around time).

BTW, congratulations, Steve, for having the presence of mind not to bring 
up the other matter...

>5) "Steve Chaney likes Randall Terry." 

Well, maybe he meant "Steve Chaney [behaves/talks] like Randall Terry"?  :-)
I know for a fact that Steve has posted his disdain for Operation Rescue 
more than once.  But Steve's own statements exhibit such a tendency toward 
violent metaphor that it would be easy for others to guess he liked Operation 
Rescue's tactics, were it not for the fact that he has stated otherwise.

>6) "I am not a Klansman." 

I have no reason to believe that Patrick is lying when he says this.  
His actions and statements *considered in total* argue strongly against 
him being a member of the Klan.

[On a side note, it would be nice if Patrick ended this matter by apologizing 
to Chaney for the offensive remark made a while back.  In my mind, it's 
the right thing to do, and it would also allow me to *fully* respect Patrick 
and to not have *any* sympathy for Steve -- which, considering everything 
else, is the way I would prefer to feel.  In my book, the good guys apologize 
for their errors, even to the lowliest scum.  The bad guys usually don't, 
that's because they're the bad guys.  I know Patrick is a good guy, and so I 
have a problem with things as they stand now.  Oh, well, that's that.]

Note: The good guy/bad guy discussion above is about ethics rather than 
about which side of the abortion issue people are on.  There are good 
and bad guys on both sides.  

Note: The use of the term "guy" above is meant to be gender-neutral.  
As in "Hey, youse guys!".  A good person/bad person discussion would 
not immediately convey the images I wanted, and so I used the old cliche 
terms.  

Note: Sorry about all the notes.  Just trying to cover my ass.  :-)

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            Chaney quote of the year lies below on the right. 
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                   /  \
                  /    \          In article <1992Jun12.161339.8678@csus.edu> 
                 /      \         chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) 
                /        \        writes:   [in response to another net user]
               /          \ 
              /            \             >Then you say you never said that? 
             /   Chaney's   \            >You've lied more times this week 
            /                \           >than I've lied 
           /     Apparent     \          >over UNIX + fibbed 
          /                    \           >to mom 
         /        Motto         \            >and pop 
        /                        \             >and the boss on the job 
       /   If at first you don't  \              >and my girlfriend, 
      /                            \     >in an entire year.
     /   succeed, lie, lie again.   \
    /                                \   Hey, Steve, that's quite a list!
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ObAbortionComment:  Dan Quayle berates Murphy Brown for glamorizing single
motherhood.  But his abortion stance would cause far more single mothers 
than Murphy Brown ever could.  Can you say inconsistency?