HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FIDO gateway!!!
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 06:10:17 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber) writes:

>    In the case of FrontDoor, the key is to load Waffle with the
> command "WAFFLE ONLINE <speed>" where <speed> is your com port's locked
> baud rate (19200 before I got my HST/DS, 38400 now).  That keeps Waffle
> quite happy.  Oh yes, one last thing - put your string to expect in the
> BBS software name field using FDSETUP (yes, it's a kludge at present but
> it works).
>
>    I still have my complete FrontDoor mailer configuration and can post
> exact examples if needed for clarification and further explanation.
>

You might want to keep it handy for others, but I won't be needing it, since I
gave up on Fidonet and have gone with Waffle exclusively.  Thanks for the
info...



|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087|
From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: aliasing a.b.w->c.b.w considered harmful
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 10:21:16 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

> > I simply ignore a.b.w. totally and only answer c.b.w. posts.  I'm too lazy
> > to fix up cross-posts I reply to that appear in c.b.w. :-)
> 
> Someone should just post weekly (or daily) to the newsgroup that its
> useless and closed down.

This is the best idea so far.

> PS - whoever suggested increasing my Xmit buffer to get UUCICO working
> without -x6 was right. Most excellent!
> 
> Precipitated Question: how do I get fidowankers to STOP calling my
> system and asking how to do files and generally wasting real usenet
> users time? Change the ph#?

You could try putting the information in the screen that comes up immediately
after logging in, before they get to do anything, and also putting the
files commands in the screen that appears when you activate files....

I don't know..its an idea. 

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: external editors
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:04:39 GMT

jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:

>noam@xyz.hacktic.nl (Noam Kloos) writes:

>> What is it with external editors for callers?
>> I had no problem setting up quick edit as console editor, but
>> I can't get an editor to work over the modem line.

>Problem is, most editors use direct screen writes. This means that it puts
>the information directly into screen memory, rather than to trust the
>hardware to put it where it's appropriate. This makes it impossible to use
>over a modem.

Impossible?  Strong word there, feller.  I wrapped QEdit in DOORWAY and
did it there.  Takes some doing, but hey, what else do we have to do?


Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: FOSSIL driver & Windows 3.1
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:14:22 GMT

taz@momad.UUCP (Sysop) writes:

>Hi there.   When I was running Waffle from DOS, I was using the
>BNU fossil driver.  When I started using Windows, I noticed that 
>the BBS would not recognize the modem when I had the FOSSIL driver 
>loaded (The FOSSIL driver was loaded from AUTOEXEC.BAT, so it was
>started BEFORE windows)

You'll need to 'capture' the comm port from within Windows's window.
BNU uses something like BNU /I+1 to initialize COM2 and then BNU /C
to cpature the port.  Exact syntax is hazy; check the docs.

-- 
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  friends every day, and they let you hide your own Easter eggs.
From: dawson@morpheus.bsan.bls.com (Willard Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Reading news - N is NEXT what?! And - SIGS
Keywords: rn news next groups sig mail
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:22:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: morpheus.1992Nov6.212212.28964
Organization: BellSouth Advanced Networks

zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

>Actually, from what I understand, you get MOST of the source code, you just
>dont get some of the uu utilities such as UUCICO and UUXQT, etc.  But if you
>want to look at UUCICO source code, look into the UUPC source file....I 
>believe it had UUCICO source in it.  It may not be the same as Waffle's
>UUCICO, but it still implements the g protocol...

Yes, but they're not Waffle utils.  I'd like the opportunity to pay for
Waffle utility sources, and receive same.  If I simply wanted to look at
UUCICO source, I'd look no further than Taylor uucp, which I already have.

I'm particularly interested in analyzing just what gives when certain things
go awry, e.g., feeding 2400 bps modems from my T2500 (which does not work).
Admittedly, since my modem has irrevocably died and been replaced with another,
it points the finger at the modem.  However, as I was (and still am) able to
do UUCP with other Telebit modems, I'd like an opportunity to see EXACTLY
what's going on.  Even the expanded debug options do not allow such control.

So, hopefully you see that the UUPC sources won't do me much good, as they
don't address the issues I had in mind.

But, here we all are, wagging our little fingers like crazy.  I will make
further attempts to contact Tom (helllooooo, Tom!).  Perhaps he can help
me after all?  (Though, it is interesting that no one has laid claim to
having received the sources to Waffle's UUCICO...)

>I could be wrong about the Waffle Source Code.  I've not gotten it yet, so
>I don't know.

>Greg


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From: tom@spud.kludge.com (Tom Lemos)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: complaints
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:10:10 PST
Organization: T.T.L.F.  San Francisco, CA

chalk@lablues.UUCP (Greg french) writes:

> Why does everyone quote a 30 line message just to use it as an example to 
> flame. If it bothers you that much, just list the message number and we 
> can look back if we really care. Please don't present us with an endless 
> parade of quoted messages.

List the message number???? wanna try this one again? My number's are gonna
be different than yours...

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"People should be taught what is, not what should be."    San Francisco,CA
                                         -Lenny Bruce      +1.415.255.8340
From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: argh! leftover .D batched news files in my spuul
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:46:54 GMT
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

> Seems in the last few days i've been getting .D files left in my hosts'
> spool dir without .X or anything else left over.
> ...

I experienced leftover .D and .X files (I'm running 1.65 on a
DOS 3.3 machine) when my newsfeed started using Taylor uucp beta
1.04 I believe.  A bug in Taylor caused 16-bit compressed batches
intended for another system to be fed to my 12-bit-only compress.

Recent patches (this week, actually) to Taylor seem to have solved
the problem.

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From: chalk@lablues.UUCP (Greg french)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: complaints
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 23:28:05 EST
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

Why does everyone quote a 30 line message just to use it as an example to 
flame. If it bothers you that much, just list the message number and we 
can look back if we really care. Please don't present us with an endless 
parade of quoted messages.
                            Greg French
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chalk@lablues.uucp<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: Posting to A Local Board From A Newsgroup
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:27:52 GMT

steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) writes:
>I want to post the monthly netiquette documents to a local board. This is a
>UNIX site and I would like to know if someone has a script to do this from the
>UNIX side. I believe that the Waffle docs state that I can use something of the
>form:
>
> newsgroup | post local_board
>

you want to cross-post only CERTAIN postings from a global newsgroup to a 
local board?  Sure, anything's possible with perl, but why would you do
such a thing.  The netiquette docs have long expiration dates and they don't
change much at all, so you could either just grab 'em a couple times per
year, or you could let 'em stay in the real group with a local reminder to
look in the global group for them.

(again, assuming you're running 'real expire' like C-news expire under
unix, it'll read the Expires: header and keep such things from expiring
until the expiration date).




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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: argh! leftover .D batched news files in my spuul
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:04:13 GMT
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

-> Its compressed news, but I dont know how to uncompress it by hand to see
-> what I'm losing,

From the command line enter:

rnews <  whatever.d

rnews knows how to deal with it.

-> Its not that I'm receiving news and not running UUXQT right after. I am.
-> I am doing uuxqt > uux.log tho, so I can grep for EXPIRES and see how
-> often things get expired.

Why bother?  The "expiring ~/news/whatever" message is based on the
/keep flag in you set in the ~/system/usenet file.  

If you want to get a handle on how old a given newsgroup gets based
on a given /keep flag, just sort the news directory(ies) by date.

-> Anyone else have this trouble? No errors show in my logs or anything.

No idea, why the .d files are hanging around though.  Are you getting
errors logged in ~/admin/errors that roughly match up to the
date/time stamp of the lonely .d files?


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From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: MODERATING THEM ALL
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:25:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxA9z4.Eo9
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography

In article <1992Nov5.230103.342@et.tudelft.nl> mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:
>
>Unhappily I do NOT get all posted news from other nodes under our subdomain
>as mail, but the messages pass our system to our feed without my interference.
>
>I don't think this is what is meant by 'moderating'. What should I do to be
>a complete moderator, not only for messages posted on our system, but also
>for messages that pass our system ?

You cannot become the moderator for messages that 'pass your system'.
That is not how moderation works. The only way for you to be the
moderator of a group is for EVERY system to know that you are the
moderator. Otherwise, they will enter the article into news instead of
mailing it to you.

Why do you think you should be the moderator for unmoderated groups?

>Then another thing: is it possible to moderate A NODE instead of a newsgroup ?
>I want to be e moderator for nodes that joined us and just started to make
>sure they're doing it all OK, and 'release' them as soon as I know it's OK.
>Can this be done ?

Doing WHAT all OK? Look at the first few articles that they post, and if
they are technically correct, what else is there to make sure about? You
can probably tell with the very first article if things are set up
properly, and you can do that by having them post to a group that you
set up just for that purpose.
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 09:55:50 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder) writes:
> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
> 
> -> Local mailing is another matter - the first mailing is usually posted
> -> OK, then the others are dumped - no message appears at all.  This
> -> happens with internal and external editors ( I think Tom's working on this
> 
> Known problem.  It seems to be a memory problem.
> 
> Try reducing buflines and/or numlist in the static file or use SHROOM
> to call waffle.

I tried reducing buflines and numlist, and found that it didn't make any
difference. SHROOM didn't seem to affect it either.


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Dawghaus BBS +64 6 357-9245       And stood there.
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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Using PcElm with wafmail
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:53:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: xocolatl.9FP2TB1w165w
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

bob@iowegia.uucp (Bob Powers) writes:

-> Who know how to use pcelm with waffle?  I am just looking at both
-> packages for the first time.  The main thing I had problems with
-> was having elm look at the mailbox in waffle.

Get e4w100.zip from halcyon.com.

It performs the necessary conversion between waffle 1.65 mailboxes
and PCelm301 mailboxes.

It includes complete docs about what and why it is doing the
conversions, example ~/extern files and .bat files.



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From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Free Internet/Usenet Access (was Re: Modem Madness)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 07:42:39 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:

> In article <V6ksTB6w165w@tcscs.UUCP> srcsip!tcscs!zeta writes:
> >If it is set up right, then the phones roll over on busy AND no answer after
> >x number of rings.   If there is a dead node, then as long as the modem does
> >not answer it should roll over, but it'll just ring a few times longer.
> 
[mention of other switches deleted]
> 
> As for it being RIGHT to rollover on no-answer, I certainly would not
> want it to do that. It would drive my PBX nuts, and the people who were
> trying to answer the phone, too.
> 

Ah.. your going thru a PBX..  If that's the case, then depending on your
PBX, you can set up all this yourself within your PBX, and not even have
to bother with the phone company.  The roll over feature is meant for just
such type of multi-line configurations where several people or devices will
answer each line.

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From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: does this do anything
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 21:12:24 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group


Does this mess up all your rnewses?

#! rnews 5555

nahhh... didn't think so. just curious.

Daniel Max P. Drucker

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From: ahm@spatula.rent.com (Andreas Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: [Unix] Can't delete *single* mail msgs?
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:02:22 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Meyer residence, Dunellen NJ USA

Have any other Unix Waffle sites has this problem?
And if so, how did you solve it?!

I can't seem to get the system to delete individual mail messages.
However, purging the entire folder works just fine, which would indicate
that it's probably not a simple permission problem.

This is Waffle v1.65 on an AT&T 3B2/310, under Unix System V rel 3.2.2

EXAMPLES:
-----
(All the messages in a the folder are marked for deletion)

[ Folder test contains 2 letters ]
 
  1    6 Dec 91 x ( mknewman@nuchat.sccs )  
  2   29 Dec 91 x ( Jeff Jones <rutgers! )  Re: Hello. 
 
Next/1 Mail> q
 
2 messages purged..
 
local.general> 
-----
(Only a single message is marked for deletion)

[ Folder test contains 2 letters ]
 
  1    6 Dec 91 - ( mknewman@nuchat.sccs )  
  2   29 Dec 91 - ( Jeff Jones <rutgers! )  Re: Hello. 
 
Next/1 Mail> d 2
Message 2 marked for deletion.
 
Next/1 Mail> q
 
local.general> 
-----
Notice there isn't any "[2 gone]" message. And when I go back into 
the same folder, both messages are still there.

Any ideas? Please e-mail. I'll summarize if there's interest.

Thanks,
Andy
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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FIDO gateway!!!
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 06:56:32 CST
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber) writes:

|   It isn't as complicated as you might think.  In fact, it's quite easy
| with BinkleyTerm and not much more difficult with FrontDoor.  I actually
| did get Waffle to run from FrontDoor for UUCP calls.

It's even less complicated than YOU think :-)

|    Both of these mailers have the facility to trigger and external exit
| based on a string sent from the remote caller.  You just tell the calling
| system's Sysop to look for a certain string and send the trigger string you
| specify.  From there your mailer batch file needs to call up Waffle (via
| EXTMAIL.BAT in the case of Binkley, from the mailer's batch file for
| FrontDoor).

Not necessary....

|    In the case of FrontDoor, the key is to load Waffle with the
| command "WAFFLE ONLINE <speed>" where <speed> is your com port's locked
| baud rate (19200 before I got my HST/DS, 38400 now).

I run FrontDoor and Waffle - it just happens that Waffle is my BBS.  Ergo,
when a user calls in, they see "Press [ESC] twice to enter Waffle" and
upon hitting the usual "I'm a human, let me into the BBS" magic handshake,
all works fine.  All Usenet connects have to do is use their UNIX scripts
and allow for an extra length of time before the "ogin" shows up.

I've been operating this way for some time - 2 years to be exact.  Of
course, if the BBS is not Waffle but Remote Access or Fido or Opus or
SearchLight or TBBS or.... (sigh)... then you made a mistake :-)


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From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: unix waffle, and sysman clean
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:40:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwnexus.1992Nov13.064013.11757
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505

rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard R. Harms) writes:

>Machine: Macintosh IIx, running A/UX 3.0, and waffle 1.65 ...

>% sysman clean
>sysman: Removing directories from purged users
>user ".." no longer exists
>sysman: 1 orphaned directories were found

The same thing happens under ULTRIX 4.1.  I spoke with Tom about
it, so maybe we'll see a 'fix' soon.  I've got somewhere around
400 directories that need purging.
From: mike@arts.com (Mike Witt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: boca modem
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:05:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: arts.c8e5TB2w165w
Organization: Computer Arts, Portland Oregon, USA


Just curious.  Anybody running waffle with a boca modem
and getting better than around 750cps thoughput?

-Mike Witt
mike@arts.com
From: dalew@twiki.UUCP (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle 1.65 and FAX
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:41:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: twiki.B1R5TB1w165w
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

system@memalph.UUCP (Woody Harper) writes:

> I just purchased a V.32bis modem with send/receive fax capabilites. All 
> functionality is there, but I need to know how to make the fax available 
> when waffle is running.

  In most cases, except with a ZyXel modem, you won't be able to make FAX
features of your modem available when it's in data mode.  You need class 2
FAX capability for this and only ZyXel has anything even close right now.
The class 2 standard hasn't even been finalized yet as far as I know, and
most manufacturers are waiting to implement it until it is a true standard.

  My new 16.8K HST Dual Standard also has FAX capability, but I have to
switch it into FAX modem to use it.  It is not currently capable of
switching on it's own when another FAX calls it nor can it switch into data
mode on it's own if I have it in FAX modem.

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From: bob@iowegia.uucp (Bob Powers)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Using PcElm with wafmail
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 15:11:56 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

Who know how to use pcelm with waffle?  I am just looking at both
packages for the first time.  The main thing I had problems with
was having elm look at the mailbox in waffle.

                                   Bob Powers
                                   bob@ia-ngnet.army.mil