From: viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu (Sergei Viznyuk)
Subject: Re: "Moldavian" language and other musings
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 23:17:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.184935.10622@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>Sergei Viznyuk writes:
>>  As you may know, the ORIGINAL script of MOLDAVIAN
>>language was Cyrrilic, except for the time, Moldova was
>>occupied by Romania, i.e. during 20 years.
>
>Excuse me, I must have overslept some lessons in school.
>The "Moldavian" language was created in 1940 or so by
>Joe Stalin, which implies that if what you say is true
>Roumania actually occupied Moldova for 20 years after
>that. I missed that completely!

  If you missed - its your problems. Following
you, one could claim that Moldova is a Stalin's
invention as well as Ukraine - Lenin's. Anyway,
dear Sommarskog, let Moldovans themself decide
who they are. Would you, Sommarskog, like it
or not, but they still consider themselves Moldovans.

>
>>President of Moldova x-communist Snegur, who used tanks
>>and terrorist gangs against population of its own country,
>>as that "old-timer who is fighting to preserve his power" ?
>
>And what does Smirnov use? Tanks and terrorist gangs? Or do
>you use other worde to describe your side? Like "the 14th
>Russian Army" (whose commander Lebed is a scum, least to
>say). A foreign army or "terrorist gangs", what's the
>difference?
>
>As for Snegur wanting to stay in power, well my favourite
>theory why he is against unification with Roumania is that
>he wants to stay in office.

  Yeah, and my "favourite" theory is that e.g.
Estonia is against unification with ... (put here -
Russia, China, Poland, etc, whatever you like)
because Estonian officials also want to stay in their
offices. So what the difference ?

>
>>It could have been "serious enough" under certain
>>circumstances. But TransDniestra officials allegedly "supported"
>>August coup only because they hoped that strong central
>>goverment would be able to defend the population from
>>"democratic" Moldavian regime.
>
>So they didn't give a damn if the democratic in the USSR was
>disrupted as long their "population" was defended? What a
>crap, Viznuyk. If you think the coup was a good idea, just
>tell us, so we know who you are.
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Ask Jarmo, Sommarskog, - he knows for sure.

>
>>1. Narva region of Estonia belongs to the people who live there. If the
>>   majority of them want to be part of Estonia, Narva also
>>   belongs to Estonia. However, apparently people in Narva
>>   does not want to be part of Estonia.
>
>If they don't want to, tell me why do they bother about
>citizenship?

  Who bothers about "precious" Estonian citizenship ?
Those mysterious 5,000 ? The question is in civil rights
violations in Baltics.

>
>I have actually expressed the sentiment that it could be a good 
>solution if Narva and Sillamde went over to the Russian side, 
>since it would reduce the number of Russians in Estonia without
>anyone would have to move. But that requires of course that
>people in Narva really wants the change, and that is not obvious.

 They do, they do, dear Erland.

>Don't forget Chechenia <-> Russia, Tatarstan <-> Russia.

  I would vote by both hands for secession of Chechenia
from Russia. Tatarstan is different thing - they didn't state
their intention to seceede (this is only for those who
really knows the question of their last referendum).

>
>>So would you refuse this right to people in Narva, TransDniestra,
>>etc ?
>
>Of course, not! But it has to be proven in a fair plebescite, and
>we haven't seen such yet. Sure there was one in Trans-Dniestra,
>but I cannot recall there were any international surveillance.
>There was one in Narva in February 1991, and there were surveyors -
>and they had significant complaints. And there was one on Crimea,
>and you know how that one went.

  There were no referendum in Crimea, as yet. On the public
opinions polls, about 60% voted for independence of Crimea.
Despite there was enough signatures gathered to call for
a referendum, the Crimean parlament declared moratorium
on it, apparently under pressure from Kiev.

S.V.