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From: bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Tea Industry in Crisis As Russia Halts Purchases
Keywords: India Tea
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:19:31 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

speaking of chai...

apnews reports:
	   GAUHATI, India (AP) - Cash-strapped Russia has run out of credit
with India's tea auctioneers and halted purchases, throwing India's
tea industry into crisis, an official said Thursday.
	   Russia normally buys 60 percent of India's annual tea exports.
	   M.K. Choudhari, secretary-general of the Indian Tea Association,
said he expected tea prices to plummet, which could force small
plantations in eastern India to close.
	   Under a barter trade agreement, Russia is to provide $285
million worth of goods, mainly petroleum products, in exchange for
tea this year.
	   Moscow already has received $32 million worth of tea but has not
shipped goods in return, Choudhari said.
	   He said buyers from other countries, including the United States
and Britain, ``are sitting on the fence waiting for the prices to
crash.''
	   Tea prices began declining about a month ago, when they were 60
to 65 cents per pound. Prices fell slightly in trading this week.
From: parakalas@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for BITSIANS!
Date: 15 Aug 92 11:06:43 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia



Hi!

Looking forward to contact some BITSIANS

on E_MAIL.


Sita Ramkumar Parakala
From: towfiq@microdyne.com (Mark Towfiq)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A Reply to Kamran's Post on Scientific Religion
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:00:30 GMT
	<TOWFIQ.92Aug17152454@nighthawk.clearpoint.com>
	<1992Aug18.004836.24141@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corporation

rp =- prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
mt = towfiq@microdyne.com (Mark Towfiq)

[Kamran advanced four criteria for knowing, namely,

		    1) senses,
		    2) reason,
		    3) scripture,
		    4) inspiration

pointing out that while each one alone is faulty, if all four are in
agreement about something, then that something is true.--mmt]

rp> IMO, I can  say that X is true only if

rp> a.   I know the Ultimate Truth

rp>         	    or

rp> b.   I know that agreement of X with atleast one of the criteria
rp>      implies that X is true.

rp> I believe that Kamran and Arindam assume that scriptures contain
rp> the truth, and hence all statements that are in agreement with the
rp> criteria can be ascertained as true. IMO, their assumption cannot
rp> be justified rationally.

  I agree that a priori we cannot justify the assumption that the Word
of God is true.  Nevertheless, all systems require fundamental
assumptions which, while not necessarily logically provable, may be
verified for validity.  Emmanuel Kant said, "Where reason ends, faith
begins".  Application of these four criteria prove, in my personal
experience, to work.  I don't know if this response will satisfy you.

rp> I believe that to find the truth all sources of knowledge must be
rp> used.  (That may not be sufficient). I accept the possibility that
rp> my reasoning can be wrong and that scriptures are equally
rp> fallible. Does your last few statements entertain the latter
rp> possibility ?

  An implicit assumption above is that the Word of God is correct and
true; it is our understanding of it which may be faulty.  Perhaps some
examples where you feel certain scriptures are fallible would serve to
further the discussion?

  Regards,
  Mark
--
Mark Towfiq, towfiq@Clearpoint.COM			      H:+1 617 488 2818

Healing the wounds and building a society in which people of diverse
backgrounds live as members of one family are the most pressing issues
confronting America today.  Her peace, her prosperity, and even her standing in
the international community depend to a great extent on the resolution of this
issue.
		-- "The Vision of Race Unity", The National Spiritual
		   Assembly of the Baha'is of the United States
From: sinha@n1.math.umn.edu (Samarendra Sinha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: I am looking for .....
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:31:17 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

.....  Mr. Arup Majumdar (from IIT/K) who, I have heard, is working in New  
York. Any further information about this guy would be appreciated. Thanks in  
advance.
- Samarendra Sinha  (sinha@s6.math.umn.edu)
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: religious talks
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:34:55 GMT
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

In article <1992Aug13.204323.23129@uceng.UC.EDU>, rbhatnag@uceng.UC.EDU (raj bhatnagar) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.190828.5803@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>
>>>savithri
>>My dear lady: what do you think I am trying to tell you!!!!!!!!!
>>The NEW FAITH has come, wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>Arindam
>
>What is NEW about the faith that youi are trying to tell the net?
>
>Is it a new "protocol" for establishing a connection between 
>an individual and the Supreme Consciousness at some previously
>unachievable baud-rate?
>
>---raj
>
>
>
>
What is new is how all the religions are the SAME. What made you think that
they are all DIFFERENT all this time as you have amply demonstrated by
your insisting that Christianity/Islan is different from Hinduism.
Any way you follow RAJ's religion. I am talking to only those who follow
Hinduism/Christianity/Islam.
When I show how they are the same You say : What's NEW.
Of course there's nothing NEW about it: the religion is ETERNAL.
What;s new is we are trying to do something to make the EARTH a better
place, instead of caring only for our PERSONAL SALVATION.
Arindam
From: aoab314@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Srinivas Bettadpur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: E-mail set up in India
Date: 19 Aug 1992 17:29:55 GMT
Organization: Center for Space Research, U of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

Howdy folks,

This is the text of a message I received from Dr. S. Ramani at
NCST in Bombay, in reply to my questions on how the e-mail
communications are set up in India.

               ------------------------------

Our link to the USA is via satellite. Our major links within 
India are via fibre (to Delhi) and digital microwave (to Madras and 
Bangalore). The link to Pune is probably via fibre, but could be coax. 
Within Bombay, the links are via PCM channels over junction cable pairs.

The ERNET project has just acquired 20 VSATs (very small aperture 
dishes) and one hub station. All this will be set up and running 
within about six months, to give connections to campuses which are 
not accessible otherwise by good communication. The VSATs will 
provide high speed links, giving each node of the order 64 KBPS. 

sangam.ncst.ernet.in acts as the international gateway for the domain
".in" All intnl Email is handled by this machine. Leased lines connect 
sangam to Delhi, Bangalore, Madras and Pune. Also IIT, Bombay and NCST 
Juhu.  Sangam is in Nariman Point, Bombay.  IIT, Delhi has a leased line
within Delhi and NCST, Bangalore has a leased line within Bangalore.  
So, they behave almost as if they are directly on to sangam.

All other sites use dial-up. They either call sangam, or a site
connected by leased line to sangam.

The institutions pay a subscription of Rs one lakh per year to the Govt
of India. Smaller groups pay half of that and large groups pay double.

sangam is sending and receiving a constant stream of messages.  The
only batching is of dial-up mail. Some stations on the leased line do
not have facilities for 24 hour operation. So, their Email may get
delayed overnight because their computers are off.

If you are dealing with a node which has a leased line to sangam 
your Email would normally reach the target machine within one hour. 
If you are dealing with a machine which is one hop away by dial-up, 
it will take time depending upon their dial-up practice. Usually, 
dial-up is doen at night, so it may be a day's delay. 

The few guys who go thru two dial-up hops, I do not know what to say !
Tell them to change. 

Ramani

PS Good news. The link from sangam to uunet is expected to become 
a 64 kbps link within a month. 
              ------------------------------------
From: plaul@engr.latech.edu (Pummy Laul)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Make "THE MOST" out of US Sprint Calls to India
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:55:18 GMT
Reply-To: plaul@engr.latech.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Louisiana Tech University


This article is in reference to the earlier articles regarding US Sprint calls to India.  

Sprint has some hidden charges like accounting codes  (something like AT&T's Call Manager).  Accounting codes cost $ 5 a month.  AT&T's call manager is free.

Sprint Plus does not really offer any major savings, if you really look at it closely  you will notice that Reach Out America on AT&T is slightly more expensive than Sprint Plus and the free Call Manager feature on AT&T makes up for it.

I personally still prefer MCI Friends and Families for the best savings for calling within the US, but my roomates who do not call that much within the US prefer AT&T for its Call Manager feature.

Solution:-

Have All 3 on the same phone.

1)  Have Sprint as your primary long distance company with Sprint World and THE MOST
    Make only your India calls on Sprint ($ 1.23/min) and THE MOST feature 
    automatically saves you 20 % on the number called the most, make sure that it is an
    India number and divide the 20 % with your roomates.

2)  Use MCI  by dialing 10222-1-phone number  and enjoy the friends and family benefits

3)  Use AT&T by dialing 10288-  ;  Please note=  USE AT&T only if you want to enjoy the
                                                 Call manager feature.

MCI & AT&T allow you to use their benefits even if you do not have them as their primary long distance company
                                   
Good Luck

 
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Bitnet:   plaul%engr.LaTech.EDU    |   Try to run, try to hide,
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Rock Chalk JAYHAWK!!!!!
From: raja@magic (Raja Seth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: TEST only
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:01:22 GMT
Reply-To: raja@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems Inc.,

------------------------------------------------------
|
| Raja Seth : raja@balrog.ctron.com
|
| All opinions expressed in this article are my own. 
| The company I work for has no claim or liability
| to this article in any implicit or explicit form. 
|
------------------------------------------------------
|
| Morality is self-imposed, legality is enforced.
| In the modern world, legality is replacing morality !
| Or is it really modern ?
|
| I hate legality for it makes life more complicated. 
| But what I do with my morality is my own business.
|
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From: chandi@cantata.cc.purdue.edu (Hiren Chandiramani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for Mihir Sejpal
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:28:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.57290

hi, 
I am looking for Mihir Sejpal who came here in 1988 to do his  
undergraduation in Ohio wesleyhan (i am not sure of the spelling).If  
anyone knows his e-mail address , phone # etc please mail it to me
Thanks
Hiren 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: Is it correct that ...
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:22:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.213034.28050@news.uiowa.edu> rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.195644.28162@jade.tufts.edu> slahiri@jade.tufts.edu (Sandip Lahiri) writes:
>>I do not know whether this is true or not, but there seems to 
>>be a strong belief that masterbation lowers a person's 
>>
>>-Sandip
>
>Atleast you should learn how to spell the word.
>
>Ramakrishna


Well there you have it, evidence to support the belief.

:-)

Ed

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran)
Subject: Re: Going to a Wedding
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:12:31 GMT

In article <75880004@hpldsla.sid.hp.com> jdansky@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Jeri Dansky) writes:

>The wedding invitation says it's the wedding of Sow. Meera with
>Chi. Sriram.  What do "Sow." and "Chi." mean?

This is going to be the one of the thousands of south Indians replying to
this question, but here goes anyway.

"Sow" is a shorthand for "Sowbhagyavati," literally meaning "May she
be blessed with good fortune," while "Chi" is a shorthand for
"Chiranjeevi," meaning "May he be blessed with long life," both in
Sanskrit.  Note some interesting gender-distinctions here.  The ideal
of Hindu married life is for the wife not to outlast the husband.
Widowhood is not a very pleasant station in life. Hence it is the
husband who is blessed with long life.  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: Curious observation.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:01:22 GMT

>In article <1992Aug20.163722.23378@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar) writes:

>A pibroch is a musical theme for the bagpipes, Mr. Mozart.
>I would be very curious to know how one would wear this, especially
>under a kilt :-)

I suggest you read Wodehouse on the subject. Sorry that the allusion
passed you by. ;-)

George




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: India successfully launches missile
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:03:31 GMT

Now "successfully" as used here is highly subjective.  For example Mr.
Chatterjee would probably define a successful launch as one that destroys
Pakistan, Bangladesh, and selectively removes all Muslims in India.
Successful to Tamils would be destroying northern Indians, and vice-versa.
Anyone can launch a missle and have it fall harmlessly somewhere, success is
destroying an intended target, or something close enough.

Ed
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: INDIANS AND SEX
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:52:53 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

subbu@cis.ohio-state.edu (rajesh subbu) writes:
: 
: Indians and SEX.
: 
: "They have sex in their brains, not where it should be" (pooja bedis words)
:
If sex is not where it should be, how come there is a population
explosion in India? This fact(of pop. growth) itself is an indication
that the *sex* is in right place, not in their brains.

---Sree
: Any comments and flames very welcome
From: sukumar@remus.rutgers.edu (Sumit Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: PC needed!!
Keywords: PC needed!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:07:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: remus.Aug.19.16.07.34.1992.452
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I need a 386 machine desperately to complete a project.

If anyone
	* has a 386 PC that they can lend me
	* has a 386 PC that they can rent me for an affordable price
	* can refer me to someone or some place that can do either of
	  above

please contact me at sukumar@remus.rutgers.edu 
or call me at (908) 788-5853.

I live very close to the New Brunswick area.

Thanks 

Sumit Kumar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: M_WUDALI@unhh.unh.edu (Mahadev   Wudali)
Subject: F1-H1, Immigration Lawyer in Boston Area
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:27:00 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12


Subj: F1-H1, Immigration lawyer in Boston area
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I have couple of immigration questions:
 1: I need to process my H1 visa application. If anyone knows an immigration
    lawyer in Boston area please sene me name and phone #.
 2: For immigration gurus: I am planning to go to India in November. Currently
    I am on F1(training) visa but planning to change to H1 status. I want to
    find out which is a better option, going on F1(training) or H1 in terms of
    getting visa in Delhi. Please send me an email if you have any knowledge
    regarding this situation.

Please reply by email as I do not have access to SCI. I am posting this article
from a friend's account.
  Thanks
  Deepak Agrawal
  da@kepler.unh.edu or deepak@mitech.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: Re: Am I a Compu-evengalist
Summary: coercion in conversion
Keywords: coercion in conversion
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 05:27:08 GMT

Mr Hakim,

My apologies for making adverse statements about your faith. I was
just getting a bit wary of Mr A and his articles. I must say that
they were/are a bit irritating (most articles praising
faiths/ religions are to me - irritating) and I had to voice my
opinion. I am sure, U being Bah'ai, will have no objections against
that.

Conversion does not always take place forcibly. Rajneesh did not
convert anyone forcibly. In no way am I trying to compare here :)
but I have to bring to your notice my opinion of religion.

If a religion has arguments which prey on the weak, to help them
meet their needs of self protection and self preservation (using
Buddism here?) then these arguments are a form of 'coercion in
conversion'. Such coercion is called 'the fear of god'. A's message
is good - his solution - The Bah'ai Faith - To me that is coercion
by preying on society's weakness for 'good'.

Your faith - uses 'peace', 'love' and other philosophical arguments
as 'tools' of conversion. Not very different from some other
religions - except that some of the Bah'ai philosophies are more
palatable today.

I must reiterate that I can understand  and I have no problems with
U or Mr A voicing your opinions/beliefs - I hope U have no problems
with me voicing mine.

Happy Independece Day.
I am off on a 10 day holiday. Respose by email will be appreciated
as my system adm. will wipe out any response of yours before I can
read it.

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Moslem Intolerance must be dealt with now.
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:28:43 GMT
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Distribution: na
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit


I am risking a blast again from the IPSGs.

But guys stay away from them, if you understand the
samskritam saying called `visha-kumbHam-payO-mukham'.

or the english saying `old-wine-new-bottle'.



Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

P.S.  Deb is right (ins spite of his SCI-posting history)
		when he says `things' about IPSGs.
From: kamdar@granite.ma30.bull.com (Jayesh Kamdar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Need Accomodation in University of Denever
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:43:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
Originator: kamdar@granite.ma30.bull.com


Hi Univ. of Denever Netters,

My friend is coming to Univ. of Denever in the 1st week of Sept.
She is looking for a room (and roommate) to share near campus area,
preferably with Indian female. Please send me an e-mail. Thanks in 
advance.

Jayesh Kamdar
J.Kamdar@ma30.bull.com

-- 
=        In FORTRAN, God is REAL, unless defined as an INTEGER       =
= ------------------------------------------------------------------ =
= Jayesh Kamdar		      Bull World Wide Inforation System Inc. =
= J.Kamdar@ma30.bull.com      Ph. (508)294-2906   FAX: (508)294-3807 =
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: SORRY FOLKS: ONLY CULTURE FROM NOW
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:34:15 GMT

I did not start this discussion to make this group into alt.religion
We are held together by a belief that God exists and we are here to worship
him: but how to work for personal salvation is a personal matter between
you Bahaullah and God
The community effort is wholly directed towards improvement of

SOCIETY and CULTURE

However, whenever a person wants to join us the question of religion comes
up. Of course one can help from outside irrespective of his/her religion
and they are welcome: our community improvement efforts are also not targetted
to a religion: e.g. Not BAHAI WHITE and BLACK but ALL WHITE and BLACK.

Hope this clears some confusion

Arindam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: usenet@cs.wayne.edu (Usenet News)
Subject: Re: What is LOVE?
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:40:02 GMT

In article <402@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca> skataria@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (skataria) writes:
>
>WHAT IS LOVE?
>Can somebody give me a convincing answer.



I.L.U		I.L.U.