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From: jembei@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Cameroon: Bill Clinton's "Coup d'Etat ?"
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:47:12 GMT

Geeee....Thanks, Shiyghan ! The ideas of everyone, at this time of Cameroon's
history, are more important than the name of people who bring them.

Are we heading to anarchy and/or barbarism in Cameroon ? I think no. The
author of the article you have had the kindness to POST has made an important
point. At a point, people thought that if all the opposition parties had formed
a coalition, they would have won the October Presidential elections. This
is basically true. But Biya's reaction then would have been unpredictable, I
mean, it is unsure whether he could have accepted to lose (since he was a
loser). He has the army, the power of incumbency, the security forces, all
these units dovoted to him. Wouldn't he have used all his armada to manipulate
voters ?

I already said I know little about John Fru Ndi. He has come to my attention
only a few weeks before the elections. Yet, he seems to have the charisma. He
has the support of the majority of Cameroonians (and unlike what some may think
that he is only supported by the "Anglophone," information reaching me reveals
that he has a broad support, with strong bases in Douala, etc). He is someone
the Camerron people believes will bring changes. However, as the other brother
from France points out, it is not a democracy, there will be no democracy when
the incumbent refuses to abide by the rules of the democracy, to accept to
lose. There will be no democracy when the opposition leader proclaims
himself/herself "president" without the Supreme Court approval. But will there
be any democracy in a system where the executive (the President) tightly
controls the judiciary systems ? No ! In Cameroon, the President has such 
a control over the Judiciary system, that the Court Supreme serves his 
interests rather than the people. Will we have an independent judiciary 
system in which judges will be free to deliberate without the threat of being 
either fired or jailed ? A system in which a judge will use the judiciary 
power to "block" the President's action ?

In fact, beyond the elections (suppose there is a run-off and John Fru Ndi is
the winner), it is the whole system that needs a cure. The very constitution
needs to be reshaped so as to reflect the democratic reality. Because the
corruption is highly rooted in Cameroon's administration, army, police, etc, we
can't expect any reaction of these units (army. police and gendarmerie) against
Biya. Because corruption has become so systematic that, people who couldn't do
better else where may want to join the police or gendarmerie where, thanks to
corruption, they expect to be better off.

Poppi
^^^^^
From: osele@acsu.buffalo.edu (Itiakorit J. Osele)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: AFRICAN SOCCER: NIGERIA WINS THE MAIDEN CAF CUP
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:53:21 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <23DEC92.21045065@edison.usask.ca> f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca writes:
>
>>>TOPIC: NIGERIA WINS THE MAIDEN CAF CUP
>> 
>>>Ibadan, Nov. 29; Nigeria's representative Shooting Stars football club
>>>of Ibadan on Nov. 28 in Ibadan won the maiden edition of the African 
>>>Football Confederation (CAF) cup soccer competition, after walloping 
>>>Nakivubo Villa of Uganda 3-0 in the second leg of the final match of 
>>>the competition.
>
>>My friend,
>>Walloping is not what I would call the results seen here.  The result was
>>merely due to a slight impediment in rising to the occasion under the
>>circumstances, not a walloping.
>>.. in football it has to be at least 7-0 to be a walloping.
>>It was the saltiness in the air from the sea that probably caused the
>>players much discomfort, and slowed them down.
>>Next time will be a different matter. :-)  :-)
>> 
>>Kiggundu. 
>
>my good friend,
>african soccer has come a long way that a 7-0 score is a miracle, if not
>a mirage. moreover, i don't know from where you got the definition of walloping
>in which it is stated that the score line must be 7-0 in order to be walloping.
>Ibadan is about 125 Km from the sea coast and i don't think the Ugandan team 
>lost because of the saltiness of the air. i think they lost to a better side. 
>The Stars, if you have been following my soccer postings, is the second best 
>team in Nigeria today. They missed the first position by a point. Moreover, 
>they had a very good home record in the CAF cup series. The Ugandans should not
>blame the saltiness of the air because they lost the match in Kampala.
>as for 'next time', it may never come their way again.
>oguocha  

This are nationalistic rantings or what ?  Nigerian hegemony activism.

Itiakorit
From: jama@austin.ibm.com (Jama Barreh)
Subject: WARSAN
Originator: jama@inetnode.austin.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:16:05 GMT
Reply-To: ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmchs!auschs!aspencer.austin.ibm.com!aspencer
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division


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From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: HAITI: Aristide to be back soon??
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:20:38 GMT

From the AP:

   U.S. Sends Haitians Signal          
     To Reinstate Ousted Aristide      
                 ---
    PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti - A visit by
a senior U.S. general last week sig-
nalled Haitian military leaders that
they must reinstate ousted President
Jean-Bertrand Aristide, a U.S. Embassy
official said Saturday.
    The official said Marine Maj. Gen.
John Sheehan met with Haiti's army
chief.
    The visit came shortly before
President-elect Clinton takes office.
    The official, who sought anonymity,
said the visit reflects Washington's
support for the return of Haiti's first
democratically elected leader.
    Sheehan told the Haitian high com-
mand that it must quickly reinstate
Aristide, The New York Times reported.
Aristide was ousted in September 1991
in a coup led by Lt. Gen. Raoul Cedras.
    Sheehan, in charge of military
assistance in the Caribbean, told
Cedras Thursday that Haiti must
immediately reform its military, added
the embassy official.
    Sheehan arrived Wednesday for a
3-day visit.
    Washington has led a hemisphere-
wide embargo on Haiti in an
unsuccessful effort to force Aristide's
return to power.
    The issue has taken on new urgency
with increased boat-building by
Haitians in recent weeks, sparking
fears among Washington policymakers and
in south Florida of a new flood of boat
people toward Miami.
    The military has been accused of
continuing to violate human rights.

======end of news ===========

Personal comments:

1. There is very strong evidence suggesting that the thugs in Haiti got rid
   of Aristide upon getting a wink from Washington. Uncle Sam doesn't care 
   for Liberation Theologists all that much! De javu "all over again".

2. Slick Willy promised to treat the Haitian refugees "fairly" during the 
   presidential campaigns. Well, they intend to come. Being blak, the best 
   way to keep them at bay is by reversing policy and restoring Aristide. 
   Strange world of politics.

What sayeth thou, rednecKKK??? Doesn't this piece belong here..???

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From: pna@lucy.trnet.bb.softpro.de (Peter Nagy)
Subject: Local flights in East Africa, please help
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:56:18 GMT
Organization: Software Professional GmbH, Boeblingen, Germany.

Can anybody please tell me, if there is a flight from 
Dar es Salaam to Nairobi or Kampala, respectively, and 
if there is any, how often and how much it can cost?

I've ridden my bicycle from Algir down to Bangui between
October and middle December 1992, alone.  Since I became 
ill and suffered from being alone I've returned to Germany,
where I'm currently living.  Now I've found a partner whith
whom I could continue my journey from Bangui to Dar es
Salaam, as originally planned.  Unfortunately one can fly to
Bangui by Air France (UTA) exclusively, but this company
does not fly to/from Dar es Salaam.

It seems to be the only way to fly TO Bangui and return FROM
Kampala or Nairobi, respectively.  But how to get back to
one of these towns from Dar es Salaam?

Any help is appreciated,
Thanx in advance


      ,
Nagy Peter
From: shaze@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Hazelhurst)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Federalism (was Re: CAMEROON:....)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 10:17:59 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: empress.cs.ubc.ca
Keywords: Cameroon, Elections aftermath, US Presidential Inauguration

JEMBEI@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>John Fru Ndi appear to be a prominent political figure in today's Cameroon (I
>am sorry, for I know little about him). However, if he wants Cameroon to go
>back to the old times of federalism (Cameroon is the size of
>California)--African federalism, in most cases, is nothing more than a
>sophisticated tribalism, then he is short-sighted politician. I won't support
>any candidate who wants federalism. That is just primary hypocrisy and
>selfishness. Is it because Cameroon oil industry is located in Limbe
>(South-West), in an "Anglophone" province as they call it that English speaking
>Cameroonians should want federalism ? Well, it is theii right to express
>themselves. But we should know that federalism has drawbacks, dangers in
>itself. It is a weakness. And what if later, there is no more oil in the actual
>site, but elsewhere in Cameroon ?  Fortunately, not all people from that part
>of Cameroon--I won't call them Anglophone support this federalism. My opinion
>is that, what we need is to develop a genuine nationalism beyond democracy.
>Look at Americans ! See what Europeans are working on now ?


Federalism is often touted as a solution to governing ethnically
diverse societies. Is there any evidence anywhere in the world that
federalism is a good way of dealing with ethnic/cultural/linguistic
tensions? (The only success story I can think of is Switzerland, but
I don't know enough about Swiss history to say whether this is a good
example)

It seems to me that too often it is pushed by unscrupulous politicians
who use federalism as a means to try build up their political power
base, and rather than moderating or dealing with the problem of
diverse societies exacerbates the problems. We can see throughout
the world where nationalism is being used in this way, with disastrous
effects. 

It's all very well to say X-type people will live in this
federal state, and Y-type people will live in this one, but things
don't work so neatly in practice since usually there will be a significant
number of X-type people living in Y-province and vice-versa. And unless
the fundamental problems are dealt with, the tensions will just be made
worse by the division. 


Scott



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From: barnhart@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: IPS:GHANA: PARLIAMENTARY POLLS OVERSHADOWED BY OPPOSITION BOYCOTT
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:59:43 GMT
Organization: Evanston, Illinois, U.S.A.

Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: GHANA: PARLIAMENTARY POLLS OVERSHADOWED BY OPPOSITION BOYCOTT


an inter press service feature

by mawusi afele

accra, dec 28 (ips) -- ghanaians go to the polls tuesday to vote
in parliamentary elections overshadowed by an opposition boycott
that may reduce the 200-seat assembly to a ''rubber stamp'' for
former military leader jerry rawlings, according to political
analysts here.

the polls will complete the ruling provisional national
defence council's (pndc) programme of transition from 11 years
of military rule to constitutional government in this west
african country.

however, the four opposition parties have boycotted the
election because of alleged rigging of last month's presidential
polls in which rawlings won 58 percent of the votes to score a
resounding victory.

the boycott leaves the field clear for three pro-government
parties -- the national democratic congress (ndc), national
convention party (ncp) and egle party -- which supported
rawlings in the nov. 3 election.

rawlings' ndc which is expected to win in a walk-over has
already been declared unopposed in 15 constituencies.

''the prospect of a de facto one party state looms over the
future (of ghana) since while three parties may be represented
at parliament, there will be no authentic opposition, with the
true opposition marginalised by their own boycott'', wrote the
'independent', a private newspaper.

kwesi pratt, a bitter critic of rawlings said although voting
would take place, parliament would not have any legitimacy. he
added that the 42 percent of voters who cast their ballots for
the opposition last month cannot be ignored.

the opposition parties -- the new patriotic party (npp),
people's national convention (pnc), the national independence
party (nip) and people's heritage party (php) -- have refused to
accept the presidential result.

they have not challenged it in court as stipulated under the
law, as they accuse the judiciary of a lack of independence.

the opposition instead is calling for an interim government,
a new electoral commission, a fresh voters register and a voter
identification system. (more/ips)
ret rop052

(story received incomplete)
n139
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: cng@me.utoronto.ca (Charles Ng)
Subject: Sharing Business Ideas in Toronto
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:33:49 GMT

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From: mukasa@panix.com (Michael K Mukasa)
Subject: Re: AFRICAN NEWS (SOCCER UPDATE)
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:48:23 GMT

In <emulcahy.726835914@unix2.tcd.ie> emulcahy@unix2.tcd.ie (QUETZALCOATL MONTEZUMA OAXACA TENOCHTITLAN INTI RAYNI RA CHICHEN ITZA TLAXCALA MACCHU PICCHU CUZCO AKRANES REKJAVIK AKUYEYRI KEFLAVIK HAFNAFJIORDHUR GODTHAAB THULE MINNESOTA NORTHSTARS SEATTLE SE
AHAWKS KON-TIKI) writes:



>	WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS (from Sunday)
>	--------------------

>	GROUP B
>Zaire 1 Cameroon 2
>		P W D L  F  A Pts
>CAMEROON	2 2 0 0  7  1  4
>Zaire		3 1 0 2  5  5  2
>Swaziland	2 1 0 1  1  5  2
>Liberia		1 0 0 1  2  4  0

>	GROUP C
>Angola 1 Zimbabwe 1
>		P W D L  F  A Pts
>ZIMBABWE	3 2 1 0  4  2  5
>Egypt		3 2 0 1  6  3  4
>Angola		2 0 1 1  1  2  1
>Togo		2 0 0 2  1  5  0


>FIFA have announced that Liberia will have to play all their matches
>in Foreign countries because of the Civil War there, and have said the 
>same of Libya, presumably this means they are still in the WC.

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------

>	CAF Cup Final:
>Nakivubo Sports Villa(Uganda) - Shooting Stars (Nigeria)	0-0 : 0-3

>	* Shooting Stars are the only team to have played in the Finals
>	  of all 3 competitions.

>	AFRICAN CHAMPIONS CUP FINAL (First Leg)
>Wydad Casablanca (Morocco) - El Hilal (Sudan)			2-0 :  -

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------

>	EAST & CENTRAL AFRICAN CUP FINAL

>Tanzania	(0) 0
>Uganda		(0) 1 	(Issa Sekatawa 77)
>	(Mwanza)

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------

>	These are some league results from a couple of weeks back,
>their only a once off that appeared in the local paper for some reason
>and are a bit useless without Tables, but someone can make use of them.

>	MOROCCO

>Marrakesh 1 Rachad Bernoushi 1
>Wydad Casablanca 1 Rabat 0
>Royal Armed Forces 1 Raja Casablanca 0
>Khouribga 3 Tangier 0
>Al-jadida 1 Olympic Casablanca 1
>Kenitra 0 Settat 0
>Oujda 2 Beni Mellal 1
>Agadir 2 Fez 0


>	TUNISIA

>Sfax Rs 2 CS Sfaxien 0
>JS Kairouan 2 Esperance Tunis 0
>AS Kasserine 1 CA bizertin 1
>OC Kerkenah 2 AS Marsa 0
>US Monastir 0 Stade Tunisien 0
>Beja 1 Etoile S Sahel 0


>	Cheers,
>		Enda.


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From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: One Settler, One Bullet
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:06:26 GMT

In article <C0nqsH.C7p@ns1.nodak.edu> varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel) writes:

[a long ceremony on the mount deleted]

>I wonder what Mr. John Kauta feels like knowing that he is, by his own
>definition, an oppressor.  How does it leave him.............cold?
>

I dunno what to say, rednecKKK...you seem to have attributed to me a great 
many statements. Are you dreaming or what?? Can't ya see I haven't made any
statement at all on these "issues" to date???

Now go back to the telly...professional wrestling is on.

kauta - amused.

>--Andrew Varvel--


P.S. This is probably my last posting on this thread. The spirit is willing 
to go on but the flesh is weak. What a pity. It was lot's of fun while it 
lasted.
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From: varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel)
Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:30:14 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <C0D81E.Lxs@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu 
(kauta) writes:
>In article <C0CpCw.Cyr@ns1.nodak.edu> varvel@plains.NoDak.edu 
(Andrew Varvel) writes:
>>In article <C02vLs.3qu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu 
>>(kauta) writes:
>>
>>The usual flames and counterflames
>     ^^^^^???
Of course it's usual.  I've gotten quite used to your flaming and
counterflaming and the usual reciprocation by somebody, usually (though not
always) a South African.

>Whom was I flaming/counterflaming?? And why don't you mention his/her name??

Some resident of South Africa.  The characters change, but the script really
doesn't change much.

>>>kauta - back on the block.

Look at your previous postings.  You should then be able to figure out which
boring flame war it was.

>>
>>It is nice to know that you are alive and well, and that you are physically
>>in good health.  I hope that you are in good spirits in this coming year.
>>May good spirits come to your house someday.
>
>I wish you good health and all. And (need I add??) all the stuff below:

Thanks for the good wishes.

Actually, you didn't need to add all the stuff below.  But as it is, I give
it all to you.  You'll probably enjoy the following a lot more than I ever
would.

I've been quite amused by your name-calling.  Me a redneck?  That's *is*
incredibly funny!  You really have the wrong stereotype here!  You should
try reading some Ole and Lena jokes to get your stereotypes straight.
What's even funnier is that you accuse me of KKK sympathies, which is
laughable.  You should really try to know what you're talking about here.
My family has been on the *other* (read: victimized) side of Klan and 
Klan-like activity.

>>12 pack of Bud,
>>11 wrasslin' tickets,
>>tin of Copenhagen,
>>9 years probation,
>>8 table dancers,
>>7 packs of Red Man,
>>6 cans of Spam,
>>5 flannel shirts,
>>4 mud-grip tires,
>>3 shot-gun shells,
>>2 hunting dogs,
>>and some parts to a Mustang GT.
>
>[List compiled by Ned Danieley on r.h.f]

He forgot the hunting rifle, the potato chips, and the National Enquirer for
his wife!

>PEACE.
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                                              No.

--Andrew Varvel--

Just look on the bright side of life. 

--Brian

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From: barnhart@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: IPS:GHANA: POLLING BEGINS IN PARLIAMENTARY ELECTION, DESPITE BOYCOTT
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:02:57 GMT
Organization: Evanston, Illinois, U.S.A.

Copyright Inter Press Service 1993, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: GHANA: POLLING BEGINS IN PARLIAMENTARY ELECTION, DESPITE BOYCOTT


accra, dec 29 (ips) -- ghanaians vote tuesday in the west
african country's first parliamentary election in 13 years to
complete the government's transition programme to constitutional
rule.

the polls, being contested by 429 candidates from three
pro-government parties and independent candidates, have been
overshadowed by an opposition boycott. they allege rigging
of last month's presidential election in which head of state
jerry rawlings won a resounding victory.

counting will begin as soon as the polls close at 17:00 gmt
and the first results are expected by the evening.

according to the interim national electoral commission
(inec), 22 candidates of the national democratic congress (ndc)
on whose ticket rawlings won the november poll are unopposed.

inec said 178 candidates from the ndc, 148 from the national
convention party (ncp), 103 from the egle party and 12
independent candidates will contest 178 seats in the 200-seat
assembly.

rawlings' ndc is expected to sweep the polls. vincent asiseh,
ndc's press officer said the party was certain to win 170 seats.

four opposition parties -- the new patriotic party (npp),
people's national convention (pnc), national independence party
(nip) and people's heritage party (php) -- are boycotting the
election.

they have said they will not contest any poll based on the
current register which is flawed. there are about 8.25 million
voters on the register, a figure widely accepted to be overblown
given that the total population is around 15 million.

inec has said it will take mare than a year to compile a
fresh voters' register and issue identity cards.

the national union of ghana students (nugs) has also declared
a boycott of tuesday's poll saying that it would only
participate in an election when ''structures are put in place to
ensure free and fair election in the country''.

a nugs statement said students of ghana would not be part of
any attempt to return the country to a one-party dictatorship.

in its 35 years of independence, ghana has only been governed
by civilians for a total of four years interspersed with six
coups. rawlings who also siezed power in a coup in 1981, lifted
the 11 year ban on plural politics last may. (end/ips/ma/oa/92)


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