HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum)
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Reply-To: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Boeing Computer Support Services
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:32:46 GMT

The Troll has a good time doing a great variety of woodworking--I range from
being a (lousy) woodcarver, to a builder of major home improvements.  My SO,
the Dragon Lady, designs things from houses to furniture, and I have the privilege
of "making it so" upon demand.  Our biggest project was a two story, 3800 square
foot house design.  It took 4 months, a computer with AUTOCAD, and darn near
caused our divorce--the contractor was a BOZO, class one!  Most projects are the
usual bookshelves, built-ins, fancy trim, etc.  Haven't needed a lathe yet, mostly
stuff that can be built with a table or radial-arm saw, and power portable stuff.

BTW, I still fiddle with CB--The handle is what I use here also.  I even use my
reall CB Call - KPR7883 - and operate withing the rules (scary, ain't it). Just for 
grins, I am working on getting a HAM licence.  The new codeless Technician
class sounds like fun to me.

My definition of renaissance man is a bit like Heinlein's--my opinion is that
"specialization is for ants, people have to be versatile".  Besides, if I can
justify a tool or two for the project, Dragon Lady will buy it for us--

My three sons also tend to be renaissance types--they are multitalented types.

Gad, we must be stranger than I thought---

--The Boss Troll
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: re: Friends ... forever ...
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 05:10:32 GMT


 Jim, sitting over in his corner, hears Didi-Sprite talk about Artful
Dodger. Jim's head raises up, he stands up, and walks back into the room
from his corner.

  Dreamy Jim raises his glass of ice water, and walks over to Didi.

 "Thanks. I needed that more than I can say. I blush, I cry, I get
happy, all the emotions except hate of difference. Thanks Didi, for
we will meet Arty again someday. It will take me a little while longer
to stop being sad, but life marches on, we must march along with it.
I have had some strange things happen with in my vision and hearing,
must mean I'll get to chat with Arty about they way things were, back
when people killed each other just because they were different. Sigh.
Thanks my favorite Sprite ! <hug>" Dreamy Jim who grew up in a time and
place where men weren't allowed to show emotion, and wondered why and
how 'manhood' got tied in with 'can't show emotion' all his younger
years.

    "Thanks Didi ! " Linda and Robbie.


* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "DJ." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Comp. Sci.
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "I'm tired out from a prolonged squawk !!" me simulating MPFC.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Reminicing about alt.callahans past
From: DPERRY@eagle.wesleyan.edu (DAVID M. PERRY)
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:30:06 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Wesleyan University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20In-Reply-To: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu's message of Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:46:20 GMTLines: 13

About Callahan's memories...


National Coming out day last year, complete with cake, drinks, dancing, etc...

Question is, I waltzed with someone, and it has been so long that I don't
remember who anymore. Are you still out there?  do you remember?

I was Raven (not raving) at the time.

One of Jack's Crows
From: cevans@nyx.cs.du.edu (The Doctor)
Subject: >Song of sixpence
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 14:19:08 GMT


     The TARDIS materializes outside the door to The Place. The Doctor
emerges, swearing prodigiously. He bears a large bundle under his arm and
heads in to look for Liralen. "Liralen," he sighs "terribly sorry for not
making the bday party. However, by way of making up for my not being here,
please accept this: a robe made from the finest Gallifreyan silk. It's a
small gift, I know, but I had to do SOMEthing." Having said so, The Doctor
gathers a God's Blessing from Mike, a pizza from the VPM and heads for
table 82, punching up "Doctorin' The TARDIS (12" Mix)" on the jukebox.
From: rmarsh@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Shadow or Dream ?
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:29:37 +1200
Reply-To: dld1@waikato.ac.nz
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

  Stumpy calls for attention. "I'd like to introduce the person who first 
put me onto this Place. For whatever arcane reasons they may have, Dreamer
is not allowed to post from his own account (though he is able unless they
have fixed that particular 'feature'). Hence he is here by the grace of
friends, which is what this place is about, right?" He indicates one of the
many dark corners of the Place...

In <1992Sep27.203419.12356@midway.uchicago.edu>
  moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne) spake :
>"Please, if there's anybody else out there even *thinking* of suicide,
>talk to us?"
  A Shadow detaches itself from a corner and walks forward, pulling earphones
 from it's ears so it can listen to the conversation...

gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) in
  <1992Sep28.151404.18466@openage.openage.com> continues...
>And then there are all the people you left behind...
  A Whisper comes from the shadow...
 "I'd rather hurt them by my absence than by my presence or actions."

>I still think he took the easy way out.  Life is much harder than death. 
 "Too True..."

Finally ptm57791@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Patrick T. Murzyn) in
  <BvB038.n1D@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>I debated a while as to whether I was qualified to comment on this topic
>or not, but I feel I am.  I, too, have had to deal with a person who had
>contemplated suicide, and went through with it.
  "Same here, except that person is me."
 saying that the shadow dissolves into electronic noise and returns to the
 silence of the net.

--         Douglas L. Davey                "...I'm going slightly bONkers..."
--       Dreamer@Waikato.Ac.Nz                 Third year B.C.M.S. Hacker
--     Email : dld1@Waikato.Ac.Nz           Donald ( Comp Sci Novell ) : dld1

  "So saith the Dreamer," saith Stumpy. You can E-mail to his own address
(that's where any replies will go) and I'll forward any that come to me.

-- 
Robert 'Stumpy' Marsh | 95 Fairfield Rd | I can't reply to E-Mail, but 
rmarsh@waikato.ac.nz  | Hamilton        | don't let that stop you sending.
+64 7 855 4406        | New Zealand     |
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rlm7337@tamsun.tamu.edu (Incarnadine)
Subject: Liralin's Present...
Organization: Castle BBS
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:52:20 GMT

Well, well, well...seems I am the only one who hasn't given Li a present.
I must apologize for my tardieness, but I have been awfully busy lately. I
hope you like this, and many more happy birthdays!
[Inky produces a small grey box, about a foot on each side.  It is tied
with a fat grey ribbon.  Inside, Liralen finds a beautiful crystal fish bowl,
which has an engraving around the rim, only visible when held to the light.
If one attempts to chime the bowl, it responds with a haunting resonasence     
which is very pleasing to the ear]


me.
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From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Memorial Service on HoloMuck
Keywords: n
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:50:47 GMT
Organization: The Cat Factory

In article <Yr1-GX_@engin.umich.edu> estin@zug.csmil.umich.edu (Paul Estin) writes:
}Snark announces, "There will be a memorial service held for Regan
}Pylman, a.k.a. the Artful Dodger, on HoloMuck (currently at
}132.206.4.25 5757) on Thursday, October 1st, beginning at 10 PM
}Eastern time (7 PM Pacific time).  ...

Thanks much for the invitation.  Your message arrived at my site too late
to do anything about it, but alt.callahans was already in the middle of a
memorial service of our own, thanks to Jack Smoke.

I'm responding because I don't know much about HoloMuck, or MUDs in
general and would like to get some information as to how to access one.
We recently became a full fledged internet site, but I haven't had time to
explore all the opportunities that presents.  Any information you can
provide will be appreciated.

Thanks much.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: brumby@nella11.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen McNamara)
Subject: Re: favorite pun
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 01:13:18 GMT

   The brumby yawns and stretches. (Ever seen a horse stretch before?)

EUCLID@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>"Favorite pun", said Euclid, as she drowsily opened an eye and a naughty
>grin spread across her face.  "My favorite?" WEeellll, it's this:
> 
>   BEWARE OF GERMANS BEARING GIFTS!

   The brumby sighs.
   "I failed French as my obligatory language at school. I suppose I'll 
have to wait for an explaination."
   "However, my own little entry is due to a certain flap going on at
Monash about the legality of these pornographic picture files that a lot
of computer students (and staff!) keep downloading to the graphics
workstations. The point is, if you are offended by these sort of pictures,

   "Beware of geeks bearing gifs!"

   The brumby hasn't had to duck peanuts for far too long.


-- 
     The Silver Brumby of          brumby@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
      the Silicon Plains

      The grass is always greener on the other side of the network.
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: ANOTHER MIA LIST
Date: 28 Sep 1992 22:32:22 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Sep25.113027.280@news.wesleyan.edu>, DPERRY@eagle.wesleyan.edu (DAVID M. PERRY) writes:
>In <1992Sep24.165150.14955@morrow.stanford.edu> GE.LJB@forsythe.stanford.edu writes:
>> The following have not posted in OH, So Long. Are they gone forever?

>> MEMBERS IN ABSENTIA (M.I.A.)
>> ----------------------------
>> Raven

>"But I'm right here!!!," cries Raven, who thought he was up to all sorts of fun
>things.  "Do you mean that no one can hear me.  help!!! help!! I'm right
>here!!!"

StM can't resist.  "Please pardon the lapse in grammar, and the change from
Poe's punctuation, but do you mean that Nick's claim that "Quoth the Raven
nevermore" was incorrect?"

>First important thing: If you read this tell me please.  Can anyone hear me?

Yes.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aaron@loki (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Reassurance
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:06:21 GMT

"I'd just like to take a moment, before my wife drags me off to bed(stop that!
You all have filthy minds), to reassure everybody here that my fears for my
account were perhaps a bit pessimistic.  Having talked to my former employer,
I find that I have at least a month, and more if I can prove 'reasonable need'
for it.  Now I don't know if alt.callahans and alt.pub.dragons-inn count as
reasonable need, and I'm quite sure that talk.bizarre doesn't, but I hope that
by then I will have scared up access on some local BBS so I can abandon my old
account with grace.  This gives me some time to shop around, at least.

"In fact, the main concern with my maintaining an account indefinitely was the
fear that an unattended account would be ripe for cracking.  Since I wouldn't
leave mine unattended for more than a few days, I think that fear is a mite
unwarranted.

"Besides, maybe a month from now he will have forgotten.  I'll be emptying out
all the files from my account this weekend, apart from those necessary for
email and news and such, so I'll become very inconspicuous..."

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"And when the thunder breaks, it breaks for you and me."
   ---This Mortal Coil
Current Album--Weird Al Yankovic:Off The Deep End
Current Read--Lin Carter:Zanthodon
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Old Coots Test (was A grinning Nightstalker)
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:23:28 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

>>Did you go to a school where "grammar school" was grades 1-8,
>>and high school was grades 9-12?  I did." 
>
>Soprano looks up in surprise from the quilt she's working on. "I had no idea
>that high school was ever anything *but* grades 9-12!  But the school
>districts I was in considered elementary school to be grades K-6 and junior
>high school to be grades 7-8.  How old a coot does that make me? ;-)"
>

Jilara grins.  "To be fair, I should mention that during the
last couple years of my grammar school career, they farmed out
grades 6-8 to the "school on the hill."  It wasn't a Junior
High, tho.  It was just that they ran out of classroom space
at the main school (which was built in 1932) and there wasn't
any room to expand.  For assemblies and things like that, they
bussed us down the hill to the old school.  Or anything that
required a gymnasium.  The gymnasium on the hill wasn't built
until after I graduated from high school.  And then, they
bussed the younger kids *up* the hill to use the gym and
track.  The old gym (which had a theater procenium and stage
on one end) was only big enough for a single basketball court,
with a foot of clearance all around.  However, I also went to
High School with people who had gone to grades 1-8 in one-room
schools.  I think Pacific Valley is up to three or four rooms,
now, and they finally closed Toro Creek School.

"We all laughed, when I was in high school, and an edict came
from The Government On High that we must integrate our school.
(We had five blacks in a student body of 221.)  We figured
they were going to fly students in from Los Angeles, if they
really wanted us to integrate.  You see, we were already
bussing folks in from 70 miles away.  My graduating class had
47 people in it..."
--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out."  --Einstein,
by way of Barry Shein on the net
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Suicide (Was: Friends ... forever ...)
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:30:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.211130.25756@cs.mcgill.ca> braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (The Didi-Sprite) writes:
>Now that I have had my say, Goldie ...
>Could I please have a *hug*?

      <Hug!> "Of course a hug !" Dreamy Jim. { eventhough I'm not Goldie. } 

>----<--<@    <- Out in the desert a rose grows... 

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
 jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
  "Gad, I dislike beta-testing, it makes me fell all irky inside." me :-)
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Date: 6 Oct 1992 09:46:07 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct5.133246.21457@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum) writes:
>BTW, I still fiddle with CB--The handle is what I use here also.  I even use my
>reall CB Call - KPR7883 - and operate withing the rules (scary, ain't it). Just for 
>grins, I am working on getting a HAM licence.  The new codeless Technician
>class sounds like fun to me.

"Just for grins, why don't you go for a First Phone with Television and Radar
endorsements?  It's doable in a single summer, and the claim (backed up by your
certificate) of "I'm licensed to design, build, and operate a TV station with
an IFR airport around it" should impress (or at least scare the shit out of)
your friends."
				-StM, who once had the licenses referred to
					above (scary, ain't it?) 

Xref: sparky alt.callahans:11459 soc.college:3961 soc.singles:26413
From: carole@rembrandt.Eng.Sun.COM (Carole Parker)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans,soc.college,soc.singles
Subject: Acceptance
Followup-To: poster
Date: 26 Sep 1992 06:36:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rembrandt

Hello Everyone:

Earlier today, I received my acceptance notification to California State
University (CSU) Long Beach for the Spring Semester 1993 which starts in
January.

Besides wanting to spread the good news, I need information pretty quickly.
Such as:

  When does the semester start? (When in January?)

  A place to share, preferably with older female students (I'm 37).

  Areas in Long Beach that I should consider (good/bad places, etc.).

  Anything that you think I need to know before moving down there.

I've been accepted for the Journalism program.  It's going to be weird
because I'll be older than the majority of students.  Any older students
that I can connect with?

Any news/information is appreciated.  Thanks.


--
I found myself. See? I'm right here! Until later--

Carole Parker
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: all about callahans
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:36:40 GMT

nick chopper...in the ALLABOUT

>>        persona and blowing up the place or a fair number of patrons
>>        thereof. A milder form is one or more legitimate guests obeying
>>        the rules but declaring that "THIS PLACE SUCKS - A BUNCH OF WEEPY
>>        PATHOS GROUPIES" or words to that effect.
>> 
>>        There is no defense against this behavior. In the violence case,
>>        most experienced patrons just ignore it. Some ignore it but wax
>>        rhetorical over how evil it is. A few try to rationalize a
>>        recovery in some kind of virtual reality. In the denigration
>>        case, most patrons flame at the critic, a few ignore, some try to
>>        sincerely and seriously answer the charges. I have no advice
>>        here. Perhaps we really need the criticism!

doug the cynic:

>This is, of course, not true.  Last time this occured, I demonstrated
>a quite effective defense against it.  It not only worked, it
>was amusing.


kitten:

doug...therare lots of people around who remember neither the
terrorists nor your defensive action.how aboutut filling in the new
people?  it is part of our history, after all...



--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer)
Subject: Re: Suicide (Was: Friends ... forever ...)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:38:41 GMT

     I dunno nothing about suicide and cowardice.

     I only know about pain.

     And I know that I'm in pain right now.

     Was Arty a coward?  Who the hell cares?  What the FUCK would it mean one 
way or the other?

     Coward, brave man, strong man or weak, he's gone, and I can only hear the 
Stranger's laugh again.

     Gry, I'm not angry at you for your words; I understand what you mean. . . 
but all a suicide means is that someone else found the darknes they couldn't 
face, the pain they couldn't overcome. . .  and even if they COULD, they never 
knew.

      It's never cowardice to end a life of intense pain when you know you can 
be no further good to yourself or others. . . it is sometimes only blindness 
not to see that you're wrong.

     I love you, Gryphon. . . and I hope I had a chance to speak the same words
to Arty. . .  I hope he knew there was a funny looking kid with a mustache
ready to stake him to a drink and a hug anytime.

     Past that, nothing else matters.

                                                    John
-- 
"Love is cool; I mean, like, really cool.  Like, the coolest thing in
the universe, where, like, people open up inside and show the world how
they feel, and they ain't afraid someone's gonna laugh because they, like,
love themselves already!"  --Personality 42, a generic 60's philosopher 
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.bug
From: Hamish.Macdonald@x400gate.bnr.ca (Hamish Macdonald)
Subject: Re: window manager "quit" nukes emacs
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:28:36 GMT

>>>>> On 30 Sep 92 15:43:53 GMT,
>>>>> In message <1992Sep30.154353.27792@src.honeywell.com>,
>>>>> alarson@src.honeywell.com (Aaron Larson) wrote:

Aaron> The Window manager "quit" button causes emacs to crash.
Aaron> Preferred action is to have the screen be removed.

In other words, Lucid Emacs should advertise and honour the
WM_DELETE_WINDOW protocol.
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from bug-lucid-emacs to alt.lucid-emacs.bug; Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:29:47 EDT
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:19:31 +0100
From: queinnec%geant.cenatls.cena.dgac.fr@lucid.com (Philippe Queinnec)
Subject: Re: Documentation string
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.bug
In <9209291544.AA00523@tintin.ese-metz.fr>, popineau@ese-metz.fr explained a
problem with a documentation string.

I noticed also some strange things with the documentation strings:

Define the following variable and function:

(defvar truc t
  "This fails: \\=\\[ and this too \\=\\]: same result as \\[ and \\].")

(defun toto ()
  "This doesn't fail: \\=\\[ and this neither: \\=\\].
Not the same result as \\[ and \\]."
  nil)

And then:
   C-h d toto RET   => the documentation string is ok.
   C-h v truc RET   => the documentation string is NOT ok (contains:
This fails: M-x  and this too \: same result as M-x  and \.

(same results with M-x describe-function and M-x describe-variable)

It works fine with emacs 18.57.

Phil
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from bug-lucid-emacs to alt.lucid-emacs.bug; Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:51:44 EDT
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:59:04 CDT
From: jody@shell.com (Jody Winston)
Subject: lemacs 19.3
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.bug