From: rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Is Jesus a prophet?
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:16:24 GMT
Organization: CERL-EE, Georgia Institue of Technology

In article <ksand-161292201520@wintermute.apple.com> ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik ) writes:
|In article <78397@hydra.gatech.EDU>, rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard
|Pitts) wrote:
|> However, when Jesus said in response to the Jewish leaders questions
|> that "before Abraham was I AM", the Jews recognized that he was claiming
|> to be older than Abraham.  Also, Jesus also said that He was the 
|> Son of God and the Jews were going to stone him for blasphemy, for they
|> recognized that he was claiming to be equal to God with his statment.
|> Jesus said he was the King of the Jesus.  Jesus our our Savior and God
|> is our Savior.  God created the world and yet it says Jesus created it,
|> too, for without Jesus nothing was created and it was created for him.
|
|If he was older than Abraham he could have been Adam, Seth, or
|something else. It does not logically imply that he's a God. Same

True, but if he was God (the Ancient of Days) then he would be older
than Adam and Seth and this passage would still hold.

|with the concept 'son of God', 'son of God' does not automatically
|imply that he is God. Actually the other way around, why couldn't

Compare that to this:

    John 5:18 (NIV)   For this reason the Jews tried all the harder 
    to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was 
    even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. 

|he say that :"Look here, I'm really God, but just now I'm a man
|in an human form, and the third part is the holy ghost, and when
|I'm back in heaven I'm once again part of the three parts that constitute
|God". All this was *never* said by Jesus, instead by Paul and the
|followers that wanted to create a nice religion.

Didn't Jesus say that he was going back to the Father and they they
would send ANOTHER comforter - seems like there were three and Jesus
did tell us what was going on.

|A lot of the issues would not be present if Jesus would have 
|said things about the doctrines. As long as this is not the case,
|you will always find people questioning why all this was added
|later.

Could it be that these doctrines become clearer to those who believe,
for Jesus said he and the Father would come and make his home with
those who believe AND he said that the Holy Spirit would be in us
and guide us in all truth.  However, the Holy Spirit is convicting
those without of sin, righteousness and judgment.

|> Pro-Life!              -|-  |  -|-    Come bow down in worship, let us kneel
|> Pro-Responsibility!     |   |   |     before the Lord Our Maker.  Psalm 95:6 
|I guess responsibility includes to let people walk into abortion
|clinics without disturbing their way.

Could it be said that being responsible is loving someone so much that 
you didn't want them to be hurt or hurt themselves ?

For Christ and His Kingdom,
Richard Pitts
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Pro-Life!              -|-  |  -|-    Come bow down in worship, let us kneel
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