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From: ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler)
Subject: Re: WEE WEENIE WILLIE
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:49:31 GMT

In article <BvHt1I.A6I@oryx.com> xdedcj@atom.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (dave c jarzabek) writes:
>A few days ago George Bush issued a challange for 4 debates.
>
>This morning I read that "Wee Weenie Willie"  will only accept
>3 debates.  Bring out the chicken suits!  (or is that a conflict
>of interest with the Arkansas poultry industry - or maybe that's
>Hillary bashing).

One of the debates sneaky-pie Bush proposed was to take place 2 days before
the election, giving him the opportunity to drop any number of totally
unsubstantiated bombs about Clinton without allowing any time
for the press or Clinton camp to pull out a rebuttal - and don't
think for a nanosecond that dirtbag desperado George wouldn't do exactly
that.  What a sleazebag!  Thank Goddess Clinton is more on his toes
than ol' Dukakis was.


---------------------------------------------
Daily affirmations:

President Clinton, President Clinton
First Cat Boots, First Cat Boots

-- 
        Ellie Cutler

        ellie@ora.com               
        uunet!ora!ellie
Xref: sparky alt.politics.clinton:8360 talk.politics.misc:49359
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: NAFTA was Re: Build that wall, Bill & Al!  Excellent.   NOT!
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:49:10 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Oct3.062943.23958@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Peterson) writes:
> In article <1992Oct3.001024.11104@clipper.ingr.com>, ald@clipper.ingr.com (Al Date) writes...
>>In article <1992Sep30.150640.4437@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>>>
>>>	Clinton and Gore have lined up on the anti-NAFTA side of the coin,
>>>spreading protectionist fear and xenophobic hatred in their wake.
>>>
>>>	Smoot-Hawley, anyone?
>> 
>>How Greatly Depressing.
>> 
>>--Al Date
> 
> 
>    Actually, I heard on CNN's Crossfire that Clinton/Gore have decided they
> support Bush's version of NAFTA.  They've said all along that they were in
> favor of NAFTA in principle, but wanted to read the fine print in Bush's 
> version. Of course the Republicans were accusing them of waffling.  But Gore 
> had said a couple of weeks ago that they would definatly come to a decision 
> on whether they support it or not before the election. They have.

	Clinton and Gore have been trashing NAFTA-like programs as "tax dollars
going to train foreign workers to steal American jobs".  They're just paying
lip service to US business interests when they say they "support" NAFTA.  Gore
has stated his opposition to the Caribbean initiative.

	After they get elected, you'll see their true colors: Either a
regulated NAFTA that is neither free nor trade or an outright dismissal of
NAFTA.

	With their Xenophobic rhetoric on trade and jobs, they are
demonstrating a remarkable dearth of economic knowledge and repeating the
errors of 60 years ago.

Brett                                                      
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From: ebstokes@maxwell.crd.ge.com (Ed Stokes)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: community based boot camps
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:50:01 GMT
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

On several occaisions, I have heard Governor Clinton speak about
"community based boot camps" for non-violent drug offenders. What
exactly does this mean ? Every neighborhood will have its own little
"drug offender boot camp" along with the school, post office, etc. ?
What will take place at these camps ? Who will administer them ? Who
will pay for them ? What will happen to second time offenders ? Has
Clinton addressed any of these specifics, or is this just a kinder,
gentler way to say "shock incarceration camp" (a Bush phrase) ?

Excuse my skepticism, but how is this better/cheaper/more effective
than just sending these folks to prison ? How is it
better/cheaper/more effective than just sending them home ? Sounds
marginally fascist to me...

Ed Stokes
ebstokes@crd.ge.com
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Is there an index to the Clinton position papers?
Originator: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 01:02:29 GMT

I sent E-mail to the Clinton/Gore campaign asking several questions
about their positions on tobacco and on Puerto Rico. The campaign
responded by sending me the article about how to get electronic
versions of their position papers.

Would someone please direct me to the position papers dealing with:

   nicotine addiction in US
   US tobacco sales to developing nations
   tobacco subsidies
   tobacco advertising in US

   Puerto Rican statehood/independence
   Puerto Rican economic development

Thanks in advance.

-- Brad Pierce --
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Economic Questions
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:54:18 GMT
 <1992Sep25.163522.28721@oakhill.sps.mot.com> <1992Sep25.191106.17078@bnr.ca>
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Sep25.191106.17078@bnr.ca>, yount@crchh473.BNR.CA (Jeff Yount) writes:
> In article <1992Sep25.163522.28721@oakhill.sps.mot.com>,
> pjm@anegada.sps.mot.com (Patrick J. McGuinness) writes:
> |>So let's talk about WORST economic performance.
> |>
> [ a bunch of statistics showing Jimmy Carter was horrible ]
> |>
> |>Democrats are fond of saying that Bush has the worst economic performance
> |>since Hoover. This is wrong. Bush has had the worst performance
> |>since *Jimmy Carter*, the last Democratic President.
> |>
> 
> WRONG! You've been listening to too much of that Republican
> revisionist history. Who is the President with
> 1. the lowest rate of economic growth 
> 2. the lowest rate of growth in civilian jobs,
> 3. the lowest rate of growth in industrial production,
> 4. the lowest growth in personal after-tax income,
> and
> 5. the lowest growth in hourly compensation
> since WWII?
> 
> You guessed it. George "what recession?" Bush.
> Could you imagine how bad things would be now if George had
> to deal with something like the Arab oil embargo that Carter
> had to handle. We would all be out on the streets.

	(I agree that Bush has fumbled the economic football.)

	The Arab oil price rises were in response to the devaluation of the
dollar/inflation.  They did not cause them.  As far as the embargo goes, it
wouldn't have had a noticeable effect on the economy if the government hadn't
messed things up be creating false shortages.

Brett                                                      
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Xref: sparky alt.politics.clinton:8324 alt.politics.bush:7610 alt.politics.marrou:1407 alt.politics.correct:5595
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.marrou,alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Legislation of morality
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:54:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

Yes, it is possible that I might get aids accidentally.  And if that happened,
no one would notice.

Simon
Xref: sparky alt.politics.clinton:8661 alt.politics.bush:7864 alt.politics.elections:15319
From: jmk@cbnews.cb.att.com (joseph.m.knapp)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Bush cowardice? I think not (RE More Bush Cowardice)
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:56:13 GMT
Organization: AT&T

vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>True, but I wouldn't even think of voting for the common hippie who survived
>the sixties. Yes, a lot of people have reformed... where are you addressing the
>issue that because Clinton used drugs, he is someone to look up to? 

His problem is that he smoked cannabis. We now have evidence that this
drug can stay in the system for up to 23 years or more!

---
Joe Knapp   jmk@cbvox.att.com
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Re: You're a racist! statements
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:10:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.211821.21462@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rkn3u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (R. Keith Norwood) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.235033.27150@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) writes:
>
>[ Complaints about tribalism deleted]
>>
>>I'm so sick of being treated like a criminal in the country I was born
>>(Canada) simply because I'm white.  Boil me a melting-pot.  This
>>"mosaic" garbage is a noble idea but is only a fine example of simple-
>>minded idealism.  That is, itself, a crime greater than anything Hitler
>>could have ever done.
>
>Sounds like a bunch of white guilt to me.  It must be tough living up to 
>the demands of every other tribe.    Why don't you take David Duke's
>advice and form your own whitey tribe for WASP only.
>
	Am I supposed to blow up into a firey red rage about this or
	what?  The whole point is to eliminate tribalism (however
	variously defined) within a single nation.  Why then would I
	support white tribalism?  I consider myself above that.  What
	insults me is when I get called a racist because I don't want
	to hear from the 900 million cultural leagues which pollute 
	and nullify nationhood.  How can you have a nation when it's
	only the white population that must bend to suit other groups'
	right to exist and prosper.  Best not to have groups.  It's 
	best to just accept that everyone is equal to each other 
	because they all have the same status in the nation.  Once you
	start divvying the whole into parts, what's to say that one
	part isn't "better" or has "more rights" than any other?

	These are things that have and will continue to occur.  

C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca

Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Subject: Re: Is there an index to the Clinton position papers?
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:02:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.010229.3268@cs.ucla.edu> pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce) writes:
>I sent E-mail to the Clinton/Gore campaign asking several questions
>about their positions on tobacco and on Puerto Rico. The campaign
>responded by sending me the article about how to get electronic
>versions of their position papers.
>
>Would someone please direct me to the position papers dealing with:
>
>   nicotine addiction in US
>   US tobacco sales to developing nations
>   tobacco subsidies
>   tobacco advertising in US

Searching on "nicotine" and "tobacco" I found nothing.  Searching on
"addict*" I find his "energy" position paper refers to "Instead of coddling
special interests whose fortunes depend on Americas addiction to
foreign oil..." and "crime-drugs" refers to "Drug treatment on demand"
for addicts and "Drug education in schools"  to prevent addiction.
However, tobacco is not mentioned in either place.

>   Puerto Rican statehood/independence
>   Puerto Rican economic development

Searching for "Puerto" I find in his "democracy" position papers mention:

* 	  Commonwealths and Territories.  We recognize the
* existing status of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico and the strong
* economic relationship between the people of Puerto Rico and the United
* States.  We pledge to support the right of the people of the
* Commonwealth of Puerto Rico to choose freely, and in concert with the
* U.S. Congress, their relationship with the United States, either as an
* enhanced commonwealth, a state or an independent nation.
* 
*	  We support fair participation for Puerto Rico in
* federal programs.  We pledge to the people of American Samoa, Guam, the
* Northern Mariana Islands, and the Virgin Islands just and fair
* treatment under federal policies, assisting their economic and social
* development.  We respect their right and that of the people of Palau to
* decide freely their future relationship with the United States and to
* be consulted on issues and policies that directly affect them.

The complete position paper is ~1070 lines long, and over 8600 words.
The name of the position paper is "democracy".  You might write to the
Clinton/Gore people and request a copy.

Tom
-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) -- tal@plts.uucp (play)
"I like Bill Clinton tremendously.  I know him from the governors' conferences.
The Democrats nominated their best person, a very able fellow.  The country is
well served by that choice." -Bush's re-election chair in NJ (Thomas Kean)
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: WEE WEENIE WILLIE
Keywords: significant words from a document used as an index to content
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:14:20 GMT
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <BvI04F.JtI@news.cso.uiuc.edu> StarOwl@uiuc.edu writes:
>
>The big problems Clinton had with Bushwacker's debate scheme was that
>the last debate would be held so close to the election, and that
>some of the dates Bushwacker proposed conflicted with big baseball
>games.  Of course, Chicken George is so out of touch with the
>American people that he wouldn't know about major league baseball....

Hey, now.  The Shrub's pitched in many an opening game.  Lot's of
50-foot curve balls, pardon, fast balls, but, hey, he was a first
baseman in Yale.  They tend to have more balls thrown at them than
anything else.  (maybe we should give him a mitt and have Dibble play
catch with him?)

--
"Sounds interesting....  Sounds interesting...."
				-- Homer Simpson
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: gnat@stein.u.washington.edu (L Boyd)
Subject: Re: Where is ELECTORAL tally?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:04:17 GMT

egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:


>Clinton would have around 307 electoral votes.
>				-- Homer Simpson


Anything over 270 is Okey Dokey with me!

Lauren

Newsgroups: alt.politics.kibo,alt.religion.kibology
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: KIBO for prez archive
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:40:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.050455.29887@samba.oit.unc.edu> jem@SunSite.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) writes:
>The Kibo postscript propaganda can be found for
>anonymous ftp on sunsite.unc.edu under /pub/docs/speeches/kibo-for-prez
>(right next to bush and clinton!).

You can also get them on world.std.com [192.74.137.5] in
/pub/alt.religion.kibology, along with the archives of a.r.k.  (I
haven't been archiving alt.politics.kibo there yet.)
							-- K.


Newsgroups: alt.politics.kibo,alt.religion.kibology
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: KIBO for prez archive
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:25:26 GMT

In article <1aeomgINN2du@agate.berkeley.edu> vchang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (V. Chang) writes:
>hey, these posters are nicely done. not bad. 
>
>who did them?

I hacked them together myself in a couple hours.  I apologize for the
clunky typography on some of them (Helvetica, Stone Sans--yuk) but they
had to look like real election propaganda.  :-)

The lettering on the "Vote Kibo prez '92" sign is a special condensed
Baskerville Bold I made to use in the titles of Spot's stories.  

>and is that really what Kibo looks like? gee whiz.

Actually, it's a candy wrapper.  Sometime I'll have a photo of myself to
post.  (Most of it is sitting here waiting to be scanned and retouched.)

							-- K.

Newsgroups: alt.politics.kibo,alt.religion.kibology
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: a question from the press
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:17:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.102631.1781@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> jorgrb@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>kibo,
>
>now that the election is ~ a month away, are you planning on having a   
>reiteration of your platform for the press?

Yes, but only if the people demand it.

>I was just wondering, for 2 days ago while i was running, i saw a 
>KIBO FOR PREZ, heck, he can't do any worse.

Kibo is the only candidate to run under gdb.    [NERD JOKE!]

>I also noticed that there is alot more kibofied places now,
>for ex....  KIBO STREET
>            MT. KIBO HILL

There's ANOTHER mountain named Kibo now?  Sheesh.  I hope it's taller
than the other one.

> also there are alot more kibological studies at the university i attend,
>(similar to pavlov's dogs, only alittle more "involved")

And don't forget the Free Purity Test offered by Kibologists with
clipboards, standing on city streetcorners.

							-- K.

Xref: sparky alt.politics.kibo:102 alt.religion.kibology:4052
From: vchang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (V. Chang)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.kibo,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: KIBO for prez archive
Date: 1 Oct 1992 11:50:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cory.berkeley.edu

hey, these posters are nicely done. not bad. 

who did them?


and is that really what Kibo looks like? gee whiz.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.kibo,alt.fan.warlord
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: First Presidential Debate
Keywords: debate saint louis presidential
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 04:09:29 GMT

In article <bryan.718166646@fegmania.wustl.edu> bryan@wupost.wustl.edu (bryan o'connor) writes:
>Now that the first Presidential debate has been set for October 11th in 
>beautiful Saint Louis, Missouri.  I ask: will Leader Kibo, spokesperson
>of the Earth and Presidential Candidate, be there?

Those weenies didn't invite me.  I don't see why.  After all, I'm just
as "real" as H. Ross Perot!

>hoping to be the Secretary of Right Justification for the Kibo Kabinet,
>-- 
>Bryan D. O'Connor                    | "what scares you most
>-- 
>Bryan D. O'Connor                    | "what scares you most

Actually, doubled sigs go under Office Of The War Lord.

							-- K.

Newsgroups: alt.politics.kibo,alt.religion.kibology,alt.non.sequitur
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Vote - final results
Keywords: vote, spokesman, Earth, results
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:02:45 GMT

In article <BvI1z7.Huy@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Earth@ed.ac.uk (Claudio Calvelli) writes:
>This is the final result of the vote. Some votes were for people other than
>the nominees: I left everything in.
>
>PLEASE stop sending votes now. They will be discarded because of the
>timestamp, so don't waste your time (and cpu time on my mailserver :-)
>
>40 Kibo

And from the list of voters:
>Kibo@world.std.com

I demand a recount. KIBO OBVIOUSLY VOTED FOR HIMSELF. Is this allowed? 
I think we need to redo the whole thing. I was really pulling for
Brian Eno...

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh    mdw@tc.cornell.edu        +1 607 253 2737
Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
  "Yow! Up ahead! It's a DONUT HUT!!"
Newsgroups: alt.politics.kibo,alt.religion.kibology,alt.exploding.kibo
From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Subject: Re: KIBO for prez archive
Organization: The Bill and Ted Society of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:06:25 GMT

vchang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (V. Chang) writes:
|hey, these posters are nicely done. not bad. 
|who did them?

Fwap! Fwap! Fwap! Fwap! *PLONK*

Newsgroups: alt.politics.kibo,alt.religion.kibology,alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Posters & other propaganda available in alt.politics.kibo
Followup-To: alt.politics.kibo,alt.religion.kibology
Reply-To: kibo@world.std.com
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:46:05 GMT

[]
	You folks interested in supporting Kibo's campaign for President 
of the United States will be able to get the necessary propaganda posters, 
stickers, and signs in alt.politics.kibo.  (If you do not get the group, 
they will also be available for FTP--send mail for details.)

	The files which will be posted in alt.politics.kibo are:

	POSTER1.EPS   Artist's conception of Kibo ruling the country,
                      with the captions: "KIBO IS NO ORDINARY BOZO."
                      "A VOTE FOR KIBO IS A VOTE FOR YOURSELF."

        POSTER2.EPS   "POLITICS, MY ASS!  I'M VOTING FOR KIBO!"
                      "Kibo For President: Because."

        POSTER3.EPS   "VOTE FOR KIBO:  Because Kibo would be a 
                      uniquely entertaining President."

        SIGN1.EPS     "Vote KIBO prez '92"

        BUMPERS1.EPS  Six assorted bumper stickers.  Get out the
                      scissors and Krazy Glue!

        ANTI1.EPS     Just for you two or three people who don't like Kibo,
                      this poster encourages people to vote AGAINST him.

        Each is an Encapsulated PostScript (.EPS) file (size 20K to 80K)
which can be sent directly to a PostScript printer, or, if you can't do
that, can be "placed" into the middle of a blank page in your favorite
page-layout program.  And, as an added bonus, if you buy uncut sheets of
self-adhesive stickers (these sell for about 30c a sheet), you can print
posters and stickers which stick to things and NEVER, EVER peel off!
Just like the other candidates.

	To unpack the files, which are uuencoded and compressed, save
each in whatever.uue, do "uudecode whatever.uue", then "uncompress
whatever.eps.Z".  It's quick and painless, and best of all, it's free.

	Vote for Kibo: the only candidate who knows how to cross-post.

							-- K.

Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct,talk.politics.mideast