HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Vampire Myths (was: Re: Fright Night)
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:56:33 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu


 	There's been a lot of talk about how the idea that vampires can trans-
form themselves into wolves etc. was an invention of Bram Stoker's for his 
novel _Dracula_.  In fact, there was a wide variety of vampire legends through-
out Europe, and they vary quite widely.  However, a number of them do include
the idea of teh revenant being able to transform itself into other forms such as
a bat, a wolf, even a haystack!

	One of the conjectured origins for the legend of the dead rising from 
the grave and transforming itself into a wolf may have arisen when fresh corpses
in shallow graves were unearthed by scavenging wolves.  Seeing a wolf in the 
distance, and then after it is gone seeing a freshly dead corpse beside a newly
opened grave could certainly lead a superstitious person to come to such a 
conclusion.

	All this information comes from an extremely informative book which 
takes a comprehensive look at legends of the living dead across Europe.  Un-
fortunately, I don't remember the author or title of this book, and since it
was in Durham County Public Library, and I'm in Massachusetts, I can't just
go look it up again.  If I find it again, I'll post bibliographical informa-
tion.

--
"If you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste more like
prunes than rhubarb does."              -Groucho Marx 

gharris@jade.tufts.edu          George Harris, Tufts Univ. Dept. of Mathematics
From: twain@milton.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:43:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug21.224358.27566
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <BD.92Aug21130434@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>
>I'm seeking information here, not arguing..
>
>The young woman at the center of this was the daughter of Andre Previn, and 
>Woody and Mia lived in separate places (although I assume that they spent 
>more than a few nights at each other's).
>
>Is there _any_ reason to think that Woody was the girl's "father figure" 
>and not Andre Previn?  Either you folks have heard things I haven't (quite 
>possible) or you're making some pretty big assumptions (also quite possible).

In the words of Daisy Previn:  "I loved him as a father.  We all thought 
of him as a father for years."  

In the words of Moses Farrow (one of the children Allen and Farrow 
adopted together, and one of the children Allen is seeking custody 
of):  "I'm very upset about what he did.  He was a 12-year boyfriend  
to my mom and all of a sudden he started going out with my sister. 
And I can't forgive him for that." 

Someone referred to Mia Farrow as "a bitch."  I see no reason to 
call her names.  She's a rich and talented woman who has used her 
considerable resources to adopt, love and care for seven or eight 
needy children.  I find that admirable. 

--Barbara
Organization: Consulting, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:39:44 -0400 
From: "Daniel K. Appelquist" <appelquist+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Barton Fink
	<1992Aug16.073040.11613@muddcs.claremont.edu>

Some spoilers here -- if you haven't seen the movie, do not read on.



awells@jarthur.claremont.edu (Adam "Servo" Wells) writes:
> I will attempt to explain the last ten minutes of Barton Fink.  Being a film
> major I think that maybe I have some authority.  The end of the film is
> supposed to show just how scummy Hollywood really is.  The producer does not
> care who the writer is.  He just wants a hit movie.  I think the whole movie
> is summed up in the last two lines when Barton is on the beach and he asks
> the girl if she is in the movies after he observes how beautiful she is.
> She reply's Of course not.  I took these lines to mean that there are
> actually no beautiful people in Hollywood.  Hope this helps you.  Please do
> not respond by e-mail, I am using a friends account.
>          -Scott Schrager, Boston University.

I think you may be simplifying the ending a bit.  Sure, that may have
been one aspect of it, but the ending, like the film itself, was
multi-layered.  First of all, he asks her if she's "in pictures."
Which of course she is, since she's the girl from the picture on the
wall of his hotel room.  So the question becomes: What's up with that?
:) Like Barton, who just doesn't know what's in the box, or who it
belongs to, so the viewer of the film really doesn't know what it's
about, or what this conclusion really means.  The film-makers extend
the metaphor of the innocent writer lost in the "hell" of Hollywood to
the viewer of the film.  I won't even go into all the faustian
analogies here, with Barton litterally selling his soul to the
devil... Anyway, just as Barton's view of his world grows more
grotesque and surreal as the film progresses, so does our view, since
we see the world through Barton's eyes.  Who can say which events in
the film are actually occuring and which are hallucinatory or
illusory?  Who can say what, if any, lesson Barton has learned from
all this?  Like Barton, we just don't know.

Dan



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From: jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen)
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Organization: University of Joensuu
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 10:17:24 GMT

boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place) writes:
>tape does not contain Dylan claiming that she was abused. It contains Farrow
>questioning her about things Allen might have done. Reporters who've seen
>the tape have said that Dylan looks "nervous and shaken" (presumably, her
>demeanor is similar to that of children known to be abused) and claim that
>this would seem to support Farrow's accusation.

She was nervous and shaken?????? HANG THE MAN! Maybe, just maybe she _might_
have another reason to be nervous and shaken. Can't you guys just wait
till you here the facts, before you start looking for the rope.

Juice
jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Do the Aliens come from EARTH?
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:08:57 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <rabjab.19.0@golem.ucsd.edu>, by rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof):
>>>>> Company developed the Alien species and infected another civilization's 
>>>>> home planet.  
 
>>Why?
 
> Simple answer: to kill off a competitor.  It's done all the time.

Yes, as when Hitachi bombed IBM's headquarters, right?  

>  I propose that the Alien could start out as 
> a viral form that infects the reproductive system and leads to 
> Alien offspring from hosts in that manner.

And I propose that the Alien could be the evil twin brother of the
Marshmallow Man.
  
> Ash may not have been told the true nature of the Alien.  He was put
> on the Nostromo because he had a better chance of surviving.

He was put on the Nostromo because the Company could and did trust
him.  As I pointed out, it would not have made no sense not to tell
him.  Reply to my arguments instead of repeating your claims.
 
> How many terrorists showed up at Lockerbee after the Pan-Am crash?

I just pointed out that what you are talking about is NOT a Pan Am
crash. Reply to my arguments instead of repeating your claims.

> [exterminating a spacefaring race through Aliens] 
> My guess is that's exactly going to happen to Earth in Alien^4,
> God forbid.   

(a) Your guess is worth nothing, as you proved by being totally wrong on
Alien 3 (which was why you started this thread).

(b) It just would make Alien 4 as bad as Alien 3, because it says
nothing about the validity of the idea, which is nil.

> The age of the derelict was never scientifically determined

There was no need to, because the screenwriters did not think anybody
would start arguing they were trying to hide something even though
they made the intended meaning fairly explicit on that point.
-- 
Markus Stumptner                                mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
University of Technology Vienna                 vexpert!mst@relay.eu.net
Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst
From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: "Stirred not shaken" or "Shaken not stirred" ?
Keywords: Bond
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:05:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug19.120827.15503@uts.uni-c.dk>, uniel@uts.uni-c.dk (Erik Lawaetz) writes...
> 
>I need help to resolve a bet concerning James Bond.
> 
>The question is, does  HE  (not other characters in the Bond movies)
>want his Martini
> 
>	"Stirred not shaken"  (1)
> 
>or
> 
>	"Shaken not stirred"  (2)
>?
> 
>I would be grateful for pointers to Bond movies (I am pretty sure that
>he uses 1 in "Thunderball"), where I can find this sentence, 'coz I
>really don't want to go through them all just to find this.
> 
>I would prefer answers via email. Will post a summary.
> 
>Cheers
> 
>--Erik


I don't know about Bond, but I remember that John Steed liked his tea
stirred "anti-clockwise"...
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Re: WOODY ALLEN MOVIES
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 19:05:22 GMT


jor1@hera.uucp (24315-rich) writes:

>IMHO, Woody's best movies (in this order) are:
                                           
>1. Annie Hall                     
>2. Love and Death                                 
>3. Manhattan                                      
>4. Hannah and Her Sisters                  
>5. Play It Again, Sam
>6. Sleeper                                                     
>7. Bananas
>8. Radio Days

What about _Crimes and Misdemeanors_, or _Purple Rose of Cairo_?

Speaking of Allen, his upcoming movie is going to be 
entitled _Husbands and Wives_, I think. Maybe it should be
_Daddies and Daughters_....


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
-- 
"If we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto,
 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
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From: craiga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Craig R Albrechtson)
Subject: Re: fault in BACK to the FUTURE II
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:45:04 GMT

In article <rcoadh.714142303@chudich.co.rmit.oz.AU> rcoadh@potoroo.co.rmit.oz.AU (Alexander Doktorovich) writes:
>Hi,
>Seing `Back to the FUTURE II' on TV (for the first time) I was impressed
>at the consistency of the events - except for one which really fauls things
>up. 
>When Marty and Doc are in the future, the old Biff steals the DMC, goes to
>the past, gives the Sports Almanac to himself and arrives back.
>Now, if old and younger Biffs were succesful in altering the future, as we
>saw when Marty and Doc arrived back to 1985, then how did the old Biff arrive
>back into the _unchanged_ future?
>Alex.

I was watching a show on the making of the back to the future 
trilogy and in that show they showed some scenes that were removed.

One of them showed biff after he arrives back in the future after giving
his younger self the sports almanac.  In that scene he staggers away  
from the delorian and then just fades into nothing ness.  Which means 
he was probably killed sometime in the past.
-- 
************************************************************************
* Craig Reese Albrechtson (Slider) * University of Wisconsin Milwaukee *
* The usual meanless disclaimers apply * craiga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu       *
************************************************************************
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: death becomes her
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:21:04 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

This message was from WILL KING to ALL,
and was forwarded to you by ERIC WALKER.
                    -------------------------

Caught this from United Press International...

    HANDS-ON WORK:  Millions of dollars were spent on high-tech special
effects for the movie "Death Becomes her," co-starring  Meryl Streep,
Bruce Willis and Goldie Hawn, but one of the most effective tricks was
done the old fashioned way: manually. It was the scene in which Streep,
thanks to special effects, regains her youth, suddenly losing age spots
and wrinkles, and her buttocks tighten. But none of the fancy doodads
would make her breasts spring to life. According to People magazine,
here's how it was done: "Her longtime makeup and hairstyling aide,  Roy
Helland , knelt behind her out of camera range and, with his hands
beneath her shirt, pushed her breasts skyward." Co-producer  Steve
Sharkey  said, "Meryl had Roy do it, although a number of us on the set
volunteered."


Will
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Attenborough's "Charlie"
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:27:05 GMT

In article <cosulliv.714062087@sfu.ca> cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan) writes:
>Has anyone out there seen trailers for the Chaplin biopic due out in
>December? Does the film seem destined for box-office smashdom or
>flopdom? 

My guess is yes, it will flop.  This film is twenty years too late to
be a big hit, probably.  Too few people are still living who remember
personally the days when Charlie Chaplin was a much bigger star than
anyone living today, or anyone of the past few decades.  Much of the
usual audience of today's films (in the U.S., at least) would only
recognize Chaplin as the figure imitated in the IBM commercials of the
early to mid eighties.  Who, then, is going to see this film?  It was
very expensive to make, so it must have a huge audience to pay off.
Lacking an obvious built-in audience, it can only succeed if it's a 
really good film, or if it somehow manages to find a hidden audience.
(Like "Home Alone" did.)  Maybe all the over 60's crowd will turn
out to support this film as they have not supported any other film
in the past decade.  Maybe Chaplin's brand of comedy will prove 
endearing to the very young.  Maybe teenagers will decide Robert Downey
Jr. really is a tremendous sex symbol.  Maybe not.  Probably not.

Whether it's a good film or not is another question.  I haven't seen
a frame or heard anything substantial, but I have my doubts.  In the
past, I'd say Richard Attenborough's films have been at their best
when there are lots and lots of people in the frame.  His finest
cinematic achievement, so far, has been the funeral scene in "Gandhi",
where literally tens of thousands of people were in the frame. 
In "A Chorus Line", there were some great sequences of a couple
of hundred dancers, but the scenes of one person dancing stunk.
There were some fine large scale battle scenes in "A Bridge Too
Far".  Attenborough is cinema's finest traffic cop - a not 
inconsiderable talent, definitely not to be scoffed at.  But it is 
not the talent most called for in a Charlie Chaplin biography.  The
important things in Chaplin's life, artistically and personally,
didn't happen in crowds, by and large.
--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: TOP TEN MOVIES, as 12 August 1992
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:00:25 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

Following is a list of the top-ten grossing movies in the U.S. as of 12
August 1992 (source: Seattle P-I, 12 August 1992). The first dollar
column lists the amount grossed in millions of dollars in the previous
weekend. The second dollar column lists the total gross receipts in the
U.S. through the end of the previous weekend.

1     UNFORGIVEN                        $ 15.0 M     debut

2     DEATH BECOMES HER                    7.8      25.7

3     RAISING CAIN                         6.2       debut

4     3 NINJAS                             5.9       debut

5     A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN                4.2      82.8

6     MO' MONEY                            3.4      29.6

7     HONEY, I BLEW UP THE KID             3.3      44.5

8     WHISPERS IN THE DARK                 3.2       debut

9     SISTER ACT                           2.8     116.6

10    BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER             2.4       9.6

COMMENTS:

UNFORGIVEN had the highest grossing opening weekend of any
Western ever (uncorrected for inflation, &c.) and for any
Eastwood movie.

Even though MO' MONEY dropped in one week from $12 M to $3.4
M, I would imagine the money are pretty happy with $30 M in
two weeks for a film in terms of a return on their
investment.

Disney acquired 3 NINJAS for its video division but decided
to give it a theatrical release after all. Its returns have
to be testify to the power of the Disney hype machine.

On the other hand, HONEY, I BLEW UP THE KID must be largely
a disappointment for Disney. An expensive movie with rapidly
dropping grosses.

A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN is sure to go over $100 M now.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
From: nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar)
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct (NO, _not_ the ending....)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:58:27 GMT

In article <16aq66INN8rd@ensta.ensta.fr> corwin@ensta.ensta.fr (Gilles Gravier) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.212933.4935@leland.Stanford.EDU> fafhrd@jessica.stanford.edu writes:
>>( +++ stuff deleted +++ ) what is the
>>name of the actress who plays Beth, the police psychologist?  (Personally,
>>( +++ other stuff gone +++)
>
>	Well, the actress who plays Beth is called Jeanne Tripplehorn. As for
>which other movies she plays in, search me! I don't know! But she sure is one
>nice woman! It's funny how the stereotype of US actors/actresses (Don't flame
>me on my spelling of 'actresses' if it's wrong, I'm French. American is not
>my native language) used to be blond, or at least not too dark, hair, and blue
>- the bluest the better - eyes... Now we've got this gorgeous brunette! Keep
>it up you there in  Hollywood!
>
AMEN !!
An oasis in the desert for a brunette lover like me....
She also had a slight squint which I found very appealing ....
Was she in 'Just the 10 of us ?'

>	Gilles.
>
>-- 

**sridhar**

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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Terminator/Franco Colombu
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:34:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.094400.17952@daimi.aau.dk> jsd@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Steen Due) writes:
>gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug13.213113.1@woods.ulowell.edu> sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka) writes:
>
>>Isn't this the terminator that was played (so to speak) by Franco
>>Columbu?  The downsized model?
>
>That is absolutly correct - but I guess Franco would be pretty upset
>if he knew ypu called him the downsized model; he did win the Mr. Olympia
>two times. Franco and Arnold goes back a long time, back to the sixties
>where they were training partners.

Yeah, I know.  I've met the guy.

GMS
From: gt4476a@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Alberghini)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Near Dark *spoiler* (was re: Fright Night, was re: Dracula)
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:58:52 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug21.140729.9867@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
>In article <ed.714366487@cwis> ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:
>>Some trivia: Near Dark directed by James Cameron's wife.
>
>                                                   ^
>                                                   ex
>
                                                  WRONG!

     Near Dark was directed by Kathryn Bigelow, James Cameron's wife now.
Back then he was married to Gail Ann Hurd, who is now married to Brian
DePalma.  


-- 
Mike Alberghini,       Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, Ga, 30332
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From: v118jxyk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Ted Turner et al
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Me and my friend were watching the new version of "Casablanca"
yesterday, and my friend had this to say about Ted Turner......

						spoiler.....


	He is going to be condemned to a BLACK AND WHITE HELL

	

	Pretty funny heh!
	
	Don't ya just hate COLORIZATION, when a movie is meant to be B+W.

				
					Jason
From: malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: THE BEST INTENTIONS (Sweden)
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:16:00 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Aug17.224534.1690@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>In article <1992Aug16.183838.26437@microsoft.com> frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney) writes:
>
>I also recommend "The Best Intentions" strongly.  For those who see it
>and like it, especially those with a strong interest in Ingmar
>Bergman, it's worthwhile to seek out Bergman's autobiography,
>"The Magic Lantern".  "The Best Intentions" ends shortly before Bergman's
>birth.  Reading the book gives you a good notion of what happened to
>his parents later in their lives, and what effects it had on their
>children.  Not a pretty picture.
>

Another related book that is sort of an autobiography of Liv Ullman,
(the actress of several Bergman films) who supposedly had an affair 
with him, is "Changing". A good book to read.   


Manish
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From: smith@panther.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith)
Subject: Re: Ted Turner et al
Organization: Adelphi University Swirbul Library
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:32:36 GMT

In article <Bsx56o.6no@acsu.buffalo.edu> v118jxyk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!) writes:


>       Me and my friend were watching the new version of "Casablanca"
>yesterday, and my friend had this to say about Ted Turner......

>                                               spoiler.....
>

>       He is going to be condemned to a BLACK AND WHITE HELL

>	

>       Pretty funny heh!
>	
>       Don't ya just hate COLORIZATION, when a movie is meant to be B+W.

>                       	
>                                       Jason

It's the american way: Money talks and bullshit walks.  He bought 'em, 
he can do what he wants to with 'em.  He can colorize, he can hoard, he can 
cut 'em into toothpicks.

All movie lovers can do, that might eventually have an impact on teddy, is 
refuse to buy or rent colorized, and let the distributor know why.

While movie lovers are at it, they should boycott the slp versions of 
videotapes too.

Jim
smith1.franklin@panther.adelphi.edu
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From: rehak@breeze.rap.ucar.edu (Nancy Rehak)
Subject: Re: REBECCA
Organization: NCAR / RAP
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:05:08 GMT

In article <5892@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
>rehak@breeze.rap.ucar.edu (Nancy Rehak) writes:
>
># Yes, Joan Fontaine was the lead actress in Rebecca.  However, she did not play
># the title role - Rebecca. Rebecca was the first Mrs. de Winter.  Joan Fontaine
># played the second Mrs. de Winter.
>
>Yes, but what is the name of the character Joan Fontaine plays? Another
>trick question?
>
>John


I believe so, but I will have to watch the movie again tonight to be sure.  If
I remember right, her first and maiden names are never used in the movie.  But
I'll know for sure tomorrow. :-)

Nancy
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