HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu (FA) 
Subject: Re: Commercial:  Folger's Coffee
Reply-To: louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu (Louise Penberthy) 
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:50:25 GMT

In article <ld660eINN91o@news.bbn.com> ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
>That commercial with the British woman and American male neighbour
>(yes, I know both actors are British)..  Who is the man in her
>apartment in the latest installment?  Neighbour comes over, the man
>says polite, ambiguous comments to confuse him about their
>relationship, then offers him coffee.  WHO IS HE?  And why is he
>trying to ruin the game??  (Okay, I'm calm now.)

I don't know who he is.  However, I guess that he is her brother
or cousin or other "safe" person in her life.  Her neighbor,
however, is meant to think that the man in her apartment is her
husband or SO or something like that.  Just to confuse the issue.
And to keep those of us watching this unfolding saga :-) waiting
for the next exciting installment.

(No, I'm not being entirely sarcastic.  I like this series of
ads.)

Just my $0.02.

-- Louise Penberthy

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College of Computing/ Georgia   |   the time, and I told her how to make a 
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louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu     |        -- Chris, NEXP:Northwest Passages
From: rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Integrity of the BBC (Re: Commercial:  Folger's Coffee))
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:05:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: cactus.1992Oct11.230516.2516
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx

In article <1992Oct10.204531.18058@adobe.com> deleon@adobe.com (Michael de Leon) writes:
>
>I'm not quite sure what you were getting at here, but for govt-subsidized
>journalism which is unbiased check out the BBC in England. 

I lost a great deal of respect for the BBC during the Gulf War.  I was in
the Middle East at the time Kuwait was invaded; during the ensuing month,
which was quite emotional, Voice of America (!) managed to keep a relatively 
even keel: just the facts; not too many outright mistakes.  But the BBC...  
there were numerous fabricated stories, shoddy journalism (e.g., lazy 
reporters writing about riots in the middle of Amman, which was sedate 
throughout; print media did this, too), etc.  Very much a propaganda organ of 
the British government.

This is the radio Beeb, of course, but I'd expect the same from the TV
branch, if not worse.  How did they behave during Falklands conflict?

I'd suspect there's a much shorter path from the British "corridors of power" 
to the BBC than there is from, say, the White House to McNeil-Lehrer.




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From: ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Commercial:  Folger's Coffee
Date: 9 Oct 1992 16:34:53 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

Mark E. Mallett writes:
>This whole thread is hilarious!
>
>[...]
>I wouldn't know, though.  I find it hard to pay much attention to
>commercials.  That's what remote controls, kitchens, bathrooms, and
>dogs are for (assuming you are watching TV for real, and not as
>background).

I admit: I am a TV junkie.  That's why I read this newsgroup!  I like
TV, I like watching shows, I think it's one of the greatest
revolutions the world has ever seen (pardon the pun), bringing
immediacy to all individuals.

Since advertising is one of the lifebloods of the industry, I think it
is an important enough subject to be discussed.  (I can hear the
snickers now... ;^) ) Where do you think freedom of the press comes
from?  Putting aside the fact that TV journalism can be bought, do you
think that any government-subsidized television can be unbiased?

So, does anyone follow the Chanel commercials?  From the "Charles...
Catherine (I don't want to set the world on fire)" to the "Sea of
Love" to the "bird in a cage" commercials, I've loved Chanel fragrance
commercials!

	-- Anita --

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From: kimi@newsance.att.com (Kimiye Tipton;ball of confusion)
Subject: Re: NX : Midnight Sun episode and Letters From Cicely
Organization: AT&T IMS, Maitland, FL
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:32:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.205518.1165@seas.gwu.edu> geigel@seas.gwu.edu (Joseph Geigel) writes:
>Did anyone else notice the similarilties between Monday's (10/5)
>episode and the "Letters Form Cicely" book?  (For all those who 

Yes, I noticed it-- and thought even last year that the book had been
read and noted by those who work on the show.

>Incidently, the book is so true to the characters that I can only
>assume it was written by a NX staff writer (The author is Ellis Wiener (sp?),
>sound familiar to anyone?)

He's not a staff writer, he's an author famous for other stuff, who
is apparently just a big NX fan.  I think he, for the most part, did
a better job than the usual NX writer does on scripts.

I've been meaning to go back and compile production staff and writing
information about all the episodes, but the task is daunting.  I'll
try to check writing credits for this season's episodes tonight.  But
I've also got to pack for a 6 day trip, so don't count on me...


Kimiye Tipton  kimi@kokomo.att.com or kimi@newsance.att.com  Maitland, FL
  You want me to kill him?
  	Just date him - let nature take its course.
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From: jgp@raid.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann)
Subject: Re: PBS: Alive From Off Center
Organization: Rational
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:44:26 GMT

ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:

>I've only caught this program about 3 times, but each time it was an
>experience.  
> 
>I'm looking for a program list, contents, and trivia about the show.  I
>managed to tape one program, and that was a "best of 1991" airing.  

"Alive From Off Center" is a summer PBS series of performance and
video art pieces.  It started back in '84 or '85, and each year has
about 8-10 weekly half-hour episodes.

Susan Stamberg(sp?) of NPR radio was the host for the first few
seasons, then performance artist Laurie Anderson was a host for
one season (with some *wild* intro stuff involving her electronic
"alter ego"--a short, male dwarf!).  Since then, there's been no
host, just an announcer.

Each show usually has 2-3 pieces with a common theme (modern dance,
animation, cultural art, etc.)  Occasionally they show just one,
30-minute piece.  Virtually anyone who's anyone in animation, dance,
performance art, video art, independent film, etc. has had something
on the show.

Some of my favorites included the nouveau juggler Michael Moschen,
monologuist Spalding Gray, a Meredith Monk dance, the Brothers Quay
animation, and a wild, Rube Goldberg-ish series of contraptions.

In my mind, it is the best program on PBS, but unfortunately, it
gets very little publicity and is often relegated to obscure time
slots.

This past summer, for no apparent reason, they changed the name
to "Alive TV".  It had a different opening/closing sequence, but
was otherwise the same.

I have virtually all the episodes on videotape, but not an episode
guide or program list.  I have a long-term project of cataloging
my videotape collection, and hopefully will someday have a list.

In the meantime, if there are specific things you'd like copies of,
let me know.

-- Jim

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From: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: YIJC - Spying in Spain
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:10:48 GMT
Reply-To: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Re the YIJC aired Oct 12 92: Is it just me, or does anyone else see this
as Lucas' salute to the Marx Brothers movies?

Consider especially the scenes of running up and down the
opera house stairs, both the backstage stairs and getting jammed in
doorways, and the fancy front-hall stairs.

Also, I loved the camera angles in that latter part!
-- 
Will Martin
wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil OR wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil
From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Animation Festival
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:53:55 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.

In article <1992Oct2.134546.15099@hemlock.cray.com> jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau) writes:

> In article <V54XRB4w164w@jab.tucson.az.us> cobra@jab.tucson.az.us (Cobra) writes:
> >jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau) writes:
> >
> >> So I'm at Spike and Mike's Sick and Twisted Animation Festival and I saw a lo

> >to see 'em out here in the cactii of Arizona, are these available on video?  
> I've been checking into that.  I know of one video available so far:
> 
>    Spike and Mike's Festival of Animation, Vol I
> 
> It costs approximately $32 and is only available in California or at the
> Festival showing...

It is also available at Suncoast Motion Pictures at the mall.

Also, you can order the following from Mellow Manor in LaJolla, Ca.
(Call information to get adress & Phone No.)

Available are

Festival of Animation #1 
Incredible Manitoba Animation (I also have seen 'MORE' ate video
stores)
Rocketship Reel (With Lupo the Butcher)
Aardman Animation (with Creature Comforts)

All are $29.99 ('cept Aardman for $39.99). Rocketship reel, in my
opinion, was not worth the money, unless you MUST  have Lupo in your
collection. 

				John
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From: stranger@watserv.ucr.edu (Katherine T Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: The Tonight Show
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:20:14 GMT
Reply-To: stranger@watserv.ucr.edu


I recently found out that Sigourney Weaver was 
interviewed on "The Tonight Show" regarding
"1492."  Is there someone out there who happened
to have recorded this?  If so, PLEASE reply
to my mail (instead of posting) as I want to
obtain a copy of this interview.  

Thanks!!

			The Stranger,
			Kathy
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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: YIJC: Young Young Indy(no, that's not a typo)
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:41:28 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Oct9.155200.26828@rtsg.mot.com> oakes@rtsg.mot.com writes:
>I seem to recall that the credits only list the "major" characters who appear:
>whichever Young Indy, Old Indy, Remey (SP?), His Parents and his Tutor.  If
>do not appear in the episode, then they are not credited.

>I do believe that only crediting actors who actually appear is unique to this
>show.  Many shows will credit actors who have actually left the show, and will
>always credit an actor who does not appear in that particular episode.

Well, that depends on contracts.  Denise Crosby was credited for three
episodes after she died on Star Trek; however, Wil Wheaton disappeared
immediately.  This is because Crosby was contracted for an entire season
on the show.  Similarly, on Twin Peaks, there were a couple of points where
contracts expired (after episode 9 of the second season), at which points
characters who hadn't appeared for a while were removed from the title
sequences (e.g. Sheryl Lee).
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From: csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN)
Subject: Re: Race traitors
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:09:34 GMT

In article <8eqEXjO00awIE4KkoE@andrew.cmu.edu> sf2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sean Patrick Friel) writes:
>Whomever expresses sympathy for that drunken speed racer should be taken
>to the crematoriums.  Too bad Bergen-Belsen doesnt exist anymore.  Any
>member of the Aryan race who displays such emotions needs to be
>liquidated before the master race is infiltrated by white-trash.  If the
>SS were still in power, there would not have been any need for a
>ridiculous trial.  The negroid would have been shot.

Well, isn't this wonderful.

Sean speaking as a member of the Aryan race (which by your name I don't
think you truely are -- more Anglo-Saxon, wouldn't you say) and speaking
as one who lost family members, also good Aryans, in the death camps of
Nazi Germany.....crawl back under your I-need-someone-to-blame-because-I
am-too-insecure rock and stay there!!!

Honestly, if we were actually to shoot all of you who claim to be
Aryans, we'd probably distroy your whole ugly, un-Godly, movement.
Plus we'd find that because of all the travelling the Aryans did do,
many of those who can actually claim Aryan blood have are rather dark.


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From: rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
Subject: Re: Sinead O'Connor's Freedom of Speech (was: Re: Sinead on SNL...YAY SINEAD!
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:45:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.170231.5188@Princeton.EDU> egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:
>>
>>Consider a different spin on this argument.  What if a Palestinian
>>entertainer had come on a show and blamed Judaism for the sins of the
>>world?  Would that be considered an 'anti-institutionalized religion'
>>stand?  Or would it be (correctly) viewed as hateful words coming from a
>>hateful person? 
>
>This has been what the Daily News and Post have maintained, as well as
>people on the net.  You conceal one important fact.  Sinead is Catholic
>in the same way Jews are Jews.  [...]
>
>As such, she is quite authorized to rip
>up pictures of the Pope, just as a Jew, even a non-observant Jew, is
>authorized to make jokes about Jews and to criticise Israel

This is an absurd argument.  It invokes the old "participation mystique"
sophistry, which attempts to exclude the validity of opinions of those
who aren't members of the "cult."  You have to have served in Vietnam to
criticise Vietnam; you have to be a Jew to criticise Israel; you have to
be a Catholic to criticise Catholicism.  You have to be a {homosexual,
black, woman, hispanix, fill_in_the_blank} to get away with critically and
aggressively confronting issues pertaining to those communities.  If you're
not, you automatically get branded with a Label: bigot, racist, etc.

I can't accept this.  It's political correctness taken to an extreme (and,
indeed, I'd offer it as a *definition* of political correctness, especially
when members not part of the "cult" start taking personal offense when 
other non-cult members start speaking out).

Either an valid is argument is valid or it isn't.  A stupid Catholic stupidly
criticising Catholicism is as stupid as a stupid Protestant stupidly 
criticising Catholicism.  

Let's start discussing the issues, and stop the ad hominem emphasis on the 
"validity" of the individual.  As a "non-member" of a group, my respon-
sibility is *solely* to respect your opinions.  I am NOT bound to respect 
the *validity* of your opinions, and, therefore, I am not prevented from 
holding contrary opinions on issues confronting your group.  





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From: dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause)
Subject: Re: SNL: Next Week, A Question
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:52:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.054438.14222@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
#For the record, SNL will virtually never do more then three consecutive
#live shows.

They've only ever done it once.  Way back in January of 76 they did four
shows in a row.  These days we seem lucky to get two.  :-)

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From: ronnya@stud.cs.uit.no (Ronny Haavard Arild)
Subject: Re: "Police Squad" - Americans with no sense of humour ?
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:41:41 GMT

In article <Bw2IK3.AF9@ns1.nodak.edu>, kruger@plains.NoDak.edu (Donovan Kruger)
writes:
"] "i6finn@aud2.aud.auc.dk writes:
"] ">Naked Gun and Naked Gun 2 1/2 are two of my favourite movies.
"] ">Right now Police Squad is on Danish TV and they are even better.
"] ">Questions:
"] ">  1) They only broadcast 6 episodes. There are no more - the
"] ">     series stopped due to lack of interest in the US !!!!!
"] ">     Is that true ? (now you understand the subject-line)
"] "
"] "Well, here is the explanation taken from _Total Television_:
"] "	One reason for the show's cancellation, according to ABC
"] "	programming executive Tony Thomopolous, was that the program
"] "	required "too much attention" from the viewer, presumably, he was
"] "	referring to the aboundance of sight gags in the series, such as
"] "	the recouring one in which the title of the epsiode as announced by
"] "	the narrator was different from that shown on the screen.

Geez, it's all those details in the background that made this show so
great; you always find new things when watching an episode again.
IMHO the 'Police Squad' title on the office door was the best one ('Police' 
was written correct while 'Squad' was mirrored - I didn't notice it until
episode 3).

Ronny
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: YIJC: Young Young Indy
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:15:14 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Oct9.174740.1430@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu 
(Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:

*spoilers for upcoming YIJ shows*

> There is at least one young Young Indy episode from last season that
> they haven't shown yet, maybe two (one in China and another in France
> or Spain I think).

Yep, he still has to almost die in China, and be saved by acupuncture,
he has to meet Krishna Murte (sp?) in India, and "paint the streets of 
Paris" with Picasso!

The little brat will be back.  (I also hope they bring back Ned aka Lawrence
of Arabia...did anyone else see that actor in the begining of _Howards End_?)

I agree with the poster that likes the younger Dr. Henry Jones Sr.  He does
do a *great* young Sean Connery impersonation!!!

But I am glad they have stuck with the older Young Indy for a while...a *much*
more interesting character!

Greg Bole                                "What kind of mother would I be if I
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu              didn't give my girls tits...tips?"
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From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: SNL BAD?????
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:24:40 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <92278.153859MJL122@psuvm.psu.edu> MJL122@psuvm.psu.edu (Michael J. Ludwig) writes:
>Whether or not one agrees with Sinead's politics, I applaud
>her for her stand.  Organized religion has been the cause of more death and
>destruction than I care to contemplate (The Crusades????).  

And Sinead would like to continue such a fine tradtion herself.  I think
you give here too much credit for social criticism and not enough for
her own social agenda with regard to the Irish conflicts.




-- 
Tom Kuchar			  
kuchar@buast7.bu.edu		  -or-                      kuchar@plh.af.mil
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Boston Univerity		                                  Hanscom AFB
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Mad About You
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:33:53 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

> mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello) writes:
> 
> >In article <mushens.718154165@sfu.ca> mushens@fraser.sfu.ca (David Russell Mushens) writes:
> >>
> >>Anyone else as disappointed in this thing as I was?      
> 
> >Probably more so.  I missed the first episode, and looked forward
> >to the second.  I couldn't even watch the whole thing -- it was
> >dreadful!  There's wasn't one thing even remotely funny about it;
> >it was predictable and juvenile; and worst of all, not one thing
> >that came out of anyone's mouth sounded the least bit believable.
> >I didn't think it was possible, but it's a bigger dog than
> >Love & War (whoever told Susan Dey she can do comedy should be
> >taken out and shot -- OK, so that's a little extreme :-) ).  
> 
> >-- Marisa
And did anyone ever tell her she looks like hell in that series?!
Her bags have luggage!
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From: igor@access.digex.com (Dan White)
Subject: Young Indy : Need A Quote, Please
Organization: Society for the Prevention of Paronomastic Defenestration
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:47:11 GMT

Does anyone out there have a taped copy of the episode that features
the character of the famous German Dr. Schweitzer (?sp?) ?

I recall the doctor making a small speech about pain and/or helping
a fellow human being.  I'd like those words.

Any help is appreciated and thanx in advance, fellow netters.


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