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From: loram@sco.COM (Lora MacKinnon)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: No morning sickness second time around
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:49:02 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

In article <BtyDMG.7tu@apollo.hp.com> betsyp@apollo.hp.com (Betsy Perry) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.204030.622@samba.oit.unc.edu> cew@med.unc.edu (Cathryn W. Chiesa) writes:
>>Ok, call me crazy but I am worried that I don't have morning
>>sickness with the second one.  Three years ago I spend the
>>first trimester extremely nauseated, but not throwing up all
>>the time.  So far, at week six I only have a little queasiness
>>in the morning.  Anyone else find the did not have it the 
>>second time.  My OB said the nausea means all the hormones
>>are at the right level.  
>
>I'm ten weeks into my second pregnancy, and it's been a blessed
>relief how much BETTER I feel than during the first one.
>At this time in my first pregnancy, I was a basket case -- 
>sleeping from 7PM to 7AM, with a very sensitive appetite (I never
>threw up, but I felt queasy most of the time), and exhausted when
>awake.  This time, I'm sleeping a *little* more (bed at 9PM instead of
>10PM), and feeling a *little* queasy.  
>
>Before this pregnancy, I was terrified about how I could possibly
>cope with a debilitating first trimester and an active toddler. 
>Luckily, I'm having an active first trimester and a debilitating
>toddler instead.
>
>Betsy
>
>>my first pregnancy was so easy I am afraid I used up all
>>my luck and this one will not be so easy.  
>
>Heh, heh.  I feel that way about babies -  my daughter was such a
>ridiculously easy baby, I'm afraid I've been spoiled; the next one's
>bound to have colic at the very least.
>
>-- 
>Betsy Hanes Perry   (note P in userid)     betsyp@apollo.hp.com
>Hewlett-Packard Company
>"It seems to us that the readers who want fiction to be like life are
>considerably outnumbered by those who would like life to be like fiction."


I was surprised at how many women did not get sick, or should
I say as sick, with the second as the first. I also was very
very sick with my first.

I believe with this pregnancy I just can't get sick so I don't.
I have a 9mo at home a full time job and I just don't have
time to go to bed.

My husband is hoping that this means that this one will be a
girl. This pregnancy is very different from my first.
31/2 more months to go and we will find out.
From: grant@panhed.psc.edu (Shirl Grant)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Namesakes??? (was Re: Names)
Date: 11 Sep 1992 14:01:21 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> It's more exciting to be named after
>someone (or even something - I was named after a stuffed tiger in the back
>window of my dad's car) than to have had your name picked out of a book!

Or your Mom's deformed pinky toe, as Dweezle(sp?) Zappa was!

I saw Frank Zappa on nightwatch onehalloween, and he sadi he always
called his wife's deformed pinky toe "Dweezle", and named his son that!
 His 2 choices when Moon Unit was born I can't remember, but I do
remember thinking, "She should be happy she wasn't a boy!"


-Shirl
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Fun with Flying
From: lwr@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov (lawrence robinson)
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:31:19 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: MDSSC-KSC
Keywords: flying 

I have a question about flying for the net.

Recently my wife was on a flight to Houston TX with our 17 month old son
and was told that she could not sit in the bulkhead seating because the 
first class passengers had complained about the noise from children.  The
carrier, Continental, said that their new policy is to not place children 
in these seats.  Has anyone had any similar problems with other carriers?

Lawrence

I speach only for myself.
From: kati@glnserv.UUCP (Lady Dragon)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: kid that wants to sleep in bed w/parents
Keywords: bed, sleep trouble
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 09:16:15 CDT
Organization: Vermi-net, Houston, Tx. 77098

scott@Apple.COM (scott douglass) writes:

> I'm having trouble with a kid that wants to sleep in bed w/ or w/o
> parents.  She doesn't care if we're there or not.  But she definitely
> doesn't want her crib.  She's seven months old now, and I'm afraid
> once she gets mobile we'll be in big trouble.
>
>               --  maggie
> --

We had the same problem with our son. I would nurse him in bed and then,
rather than get up, lay down and sleep beside him. Whenever I tried to
pick him up to move him to his bed, the same thing, he'd wake up and fuss.
We pretty much just had to tough it out: put him in his bed and let him
fuss there. After about a month or so, he learned to sleep in his bed.


* * email address: nuchat!xcluud!glnserv!kati * Houston, Texas, USA, Earth * *
From: sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: NutraSweet (Was: Re: Caffeine during Pregnancy)
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:04:59 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <14694@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>
>My personal opinion is that no Nutrasweet should be consumed by anyone 
>who is pregnant or trying to conceive. I do believe that there is not 
>sufficient evidence showing Nutrasweet to be completely safe during 
>pregnancy or childhood. What's the big deal about sugar, anyway, if 
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>consumed in moderation? Controlled studies show it does NOT make children 
>hyper (it's probably other things found in sugary foods full of 
>questionable additives that do, or maybe just coincidence). I am not
>going to allow my child(ren) to drink artificially sweetened drinks on 
>any regular basis.

Well, I had gestational diabetes with my first pregnancy and was
borderline with the second.  Drinking no more than 1 artificially
sweetened drink per day allowed me to stick to my sugar-free diet.
In my case, sugar was a definite no-no and nutrasweet was just a
maybe.


-- 
Susan Gauch
sgauch@flora.ccs.northeastern.edu
From: bl213@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (K. C. Kelly)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Cornmeal for baby powder???
Date: 11 Sep 1992 06:20:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Petroleum jelly is used to waterproof the baby's bottom so urine
is less likely to irritate the skin, but I wouldn't use petroleum
based jellies if you do use that sort of thing (health food
stores and the like have the "unpetroleum jelly").
From: gwynne@milton.u.washington.edu ()
Subject: Re: Names
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:03:48 GMT

I think and hope this statement is attributable to Steve S. but my
newsreader/editor isn't behaving itself too well.  Anyway, in 
response to the following:

>>This is kind of off the main subject, but do kids no longer make fun
>>of other kids with unusual names?  When I was growing up, kids
>>regularly teased those with unusual names.  For this reason, I would
>>never give a child an usual name.  You mentioned that your sister has
>>had "to correct people for the past 34 years".  Do you really want
>>your child to have to do this?  Maybe I'm way off here, but I wouldn't
>>put anyone through the possible teasing and confusion that an unusual
>>name would cause.

My daughter (Gwynne) has been wishing her name was "Kathy" or "Jennifer"
or some other impossible to mispronouce name.  She's 9 and I remember 
wanting an unmistakeable name also (mine is Kristan - always misspelled
and mispronouced).  Add both names to the last name of "Geissel" and
you have/had two kids wishing for names like Nancy Smith or Sally Jones.

However, even though I have spent 35.5 years correcting pronounciation
and spelling, once someone knows my name, they do not forget it.  I 
never experience someone saying in passing that they know 5 other
Kristans but I can say truthfully that I know 5 Davids, 6 Sues,
4 Lindas and so on.  And at times, even I get them confused.  In my
daughter's peer group, the trend has been to old(er)-fashioned names.
So she interacts with a couple of Ryans, Emilys, Emmas, and Ingrids.
Again, I can't keep them straight.  But I know that if one of her
classmates mention Gwynne (she doesn't even compete with a Jennifer),
there is no confusion there. 

Besides, there is a nice feeling when someone goes to the effort of 
remembering and saying correctly a difficult name.  

Kristan
From: lightnin@planet10.WPI.EDU (Paraaaaaaaaade of Shoooooooooes)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:23:46
Organization: DeityCo: Major and Minor Deities Placement Agency
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In-reply-to: obrien@netcom.com's message of Sun, 13 Sep 92 19:16:40 GMT


On the subject of gender neutral names.  As far as mail goes, it doesn't 
matter what your name is, the mailing lists will still mess up your
gender.  I have, what I have always considered to be, a gender-specific
name--Derek.  Lots of alternate spellings out there, but I've never met
any girls named that.  Anyway, back in high school I got quite a few
pieces of junk mail, inviting me to enter various beauty paegents.  
Came pretty close to trying a couple of times, just to see what the
officials would do when I showed up.  Would have been entertaining.

Anyway, as far as names go, name the kid whatever you like.  People who
don't like it will make fun, or complain, but hey, it's not their kid,
and not their name, right?

-lightnin

P.S.  This kind of got off topic, so I'm removing r.a.s.c from the newsgroups
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From: alison@informix.com (Alison Suggs)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Names
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:57:54 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <STEVES.92Sep10095156@kuwait.gdfwc3> steves@gdfwc3 (Steve Strauss) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.230251.14756@newstand.syr.edu> kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Keith E Gatling) writes:
>
>>   My wife and I are expecting our first child in February.  If it's a girl,
>>   we've decided to name her Devra Marie.  We haven't had many problems with
>>   that one aside from the occasional "What an unusual name," or "But she won't
>>   be able to get license plates off the rack in the store like other kids," or
>>   "She'll spend her whole life correcting people when they call her
>>   'Debbie'."  None of these bother me, since my sister's name is Jael, and
>>   she's dealt with having to correct people for the past 34 years just fine.
>
>>   The name we've been considering is Geordie LeVar.
>
>This is kind of off the main subject, but do kids no longer make fun
>of other kids with unusual names?  When I was growing up, kids
>regularly teased those with unusual names.  For this reason, I would
>never give a child an usual name.  You mentioned that your sister has
>had "to correct people for the past 34 years".  Do you really want
>your child to have to do this?  Maybe I'm way off here, but I wouldn't
>put anyone through the possible teasing and confusion that an unusual
>name would cause.

My experience is that kids tease other kids, period.  If they have an
unusual name, they use that.  If they look funny, they tease them about
that.  If they have an ordinary name, they get teased using modifications
on the ordinary name (e.g. "Alison, palision, ding-dong, alison" or
"Alison Wonderland").  Naming your child John Smith is not going to 
same him from teasing at school.

Alison
From: cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham)
Subject: Wanted: Pediatrician in Irvine area
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine
Distribution: ca
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:24:10 GMT

I just recently moved to Irvine, CA.  Does anyone know of a really good
pediatrician in this area?  Thanks in advance.

- Cindy Windham 
Xref: sparky misc.kids:23112 rec.arts.startrek.current:12928
From: hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Names
Summary: way off on a tangent
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:05:59 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

In article <1992Sep10.160742.27333@hubcap.clemson.edu> hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor) writes:
>wwolf@zooid.guild.org (White Wolf) writes:
>
> * Furthermore, try and pretend that
> * you're a cruel child and come up with any realy nasty nicknames you can ie 
>
>I'll have to paraphrase, but:
>
>   Marge: Rich?
>   Homer: Nooooo, they'll call him Rich the Snitch
>   Marge: Billy?
>   Homer: Silly Billy...
>   Marge: Dan?
>   Homer: Danny Fanny...
>   Marge: Bart?
>   Homer: Uh... OK.

A couple of stories down these lines:

A couple tried to carefully choose a girl's name that could NOT be
turned into anything nasty.  They finally chose Amber.  Their daughter
hadn't been home more than a few days when her big brother cheerfully
called out, "Hi Amberger!"

And then there's my youngest, Paul.  Not much that you can do with that
one, right?  Sometimes I will call him Paulie, though.  Once I left the
house saying, "Bye-bye, Paulie", and my 8-yr old daughter chimed in,
"Bye-bye, Paulie-ester".

The moral?  That nothing is safe?  I don't buy it, though--notwithstanding 
the stories, some names are just asking for trouble.

Sue (that's Susan, as in black-eyed, as in lazy)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: minx@access.digex.com (minx)
Subject: Re: Pain Relief in Labour: Ben's Reply
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:54:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.175516.24413@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom) writes:
>>
>>Thanks for bearing with me, and thanks especially to Michele Gaudreault, 
>>Mikki Barry and minx for participating in the discussion. I too wonder if 
>>the venom is focused on me because I'm male. Any comments?

You're welcome.
>
>Nope, it was because of your lecturing. We have threads that deal with 
>strangers who will come up to parents and start telling us how to do things.
>I guess we dont take it well, and I am not sure we need to. If you want to
>give info, you should be a little more tactful about it, or you run the
>risk of not getting thru to people, just getting them angry.

Wait a second (again!).  Why did you characterize Ben's post as
lecturing, or telling you how to do things?  I didn't get that
idea at all.  I appreciated the information, and plan to use it
if I have another baby.

Minx
From: kiernan@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Elaine Kiernan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Pregnant and wedding rings too tight
Keywords: what did you do?
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:20:54 GMT
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii

I just took mine off yesterday! They were making deep indentations
in my fingers! (I'm 18 weeks). I think your hands go back to
normal after the baby is born. I'm just going to be ringless
for a while I guess!

	Elaine

	due 2/15/92
From: vaccaro@novavax.UUCP (N. Trafford Vaccaro)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Disney
Keywords: toddlers visiting
Date: 12 Sep 92 08:46:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Nova University, Fort Lauderdale, FL

Hi, everyone. Just a little info for those of you that
don't know. I took Amanda (she was just able to walk without
too much falling) to Disneyworld and she went crazy when we
took her to Mickey's Playland or Birthday Land or whatever its
called. Anyway, this area consists of a miniaturized town with
little store fronts, etc. She loved it! So I took her to
Toyz in the Hood (Toys-R-Us) and let her play in the plastic
log cabin. Apparently, after being so little and everything else
being so big, she finally had something her own size to play in.

So give it a try, its fun...


Nick
From: tracy@horizon.com (Tracy Benelli)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Laparoscopy
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:45:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Science Horizons, Inc.

This message is posted from a friend's computer as mine is down.  Please
reply to email address listed below:


My husband and I have been trying to get pregnant for 15 months, and recently
began testing to determine the reasons behind our lack of success.  We have
had the following tests already:   HSG - seman analysis - post coital.

The seman analysis and post coital came back fine.  No problems.  The HSG
appeared to be normal: the left fallopian tube was open and the dye flowed
through immediately.  The right tube appeared at first to be closed - the
radiologist had me roll towards my right side, injected more fluid and
after some intense cramping, the tube opened and the dye went through.  I
thought that maybe the tube had been  partially blocked, and now it was open, 
and that we would be declared "cured" and I wouldn't have to have any further
testing.  I was wrong.

I saw my OB-GYN last week to review the tests to date, and he said that
he felt I should go ahead and have a laparoscopy, in that I have a 
slightly tipped uterus and my uterus also appears to "stick" at the top.
He did say that there wasn't any overt evidence of endrometriosis, but he
couldn't 100% rule that out until he looked inside via the 'scope, and that
endrometriosis can cause the uterus to "stick", just as it can cause
fallopian tubes to "stick" together.

Although I want to go ahead with this proceedure, and have told my doctor
to schedule it (I am tenatively scheduled for 9/22), I am feeling very
unsure about the whole thing.

Has anyone had a laparoscopy done to determine/correct infertility?  was
it successful?  How long after were you able to conceive?  What were the
long-term affects, if any?

And on a different note, has anyone been diagnosed with endrometriosis or
a tipped uterus and been able to conceive?

Any and all information will be greatly appreciated :) .

In that I am not always able to check the net on a regular basis, if 
responses would be mailed to me I would appreciate that, too.

Thanks!

Tracy Benelli
tracy@arfalas.horizon.com     tracy@horizon.com
From: chrisw@chopin.FtCollins.NCR.com (Chris Whitley)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: RE: Late night bottles
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:18:39 GMT
Reply-To: chrisw@chopin.FtCollins.NCR.com (Chris Whitley)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO

Actually, I can't relate to the issue of "bottles" period, 
because my daughter would never touch one.  However, my
tendency for advice is to not give the child _anything_
at all before bed. 

Do I just have an unusual child, or is it normal for a kid
(since 12 months old) to eat breakfast at 7 AM, a snack at 9 AM,
lunch at 11:30 AM, another snack at 3:30 PM, and dinner at 6 PM.
Period. Sleeps 8-6:30 without any waking up for food. (Although she
does sometimes wake up, play or cry for 3-5 minutes, and soon return
to sleep without my intervention.  It wouldn't occur to her, however,
to expect FOOD in the middle of the night.)  After first dropping
her last and only remaining nursing(maybe for 3 or 4 days) Miranda
noticeably ate more at these regularly scheduled meals and snacks.
And then it just became the norm. I do not police this schedule...
it just seems to work out as what she wants to eat. Oh, sometimes
I'll make her wait 15 or 30 minutes while I finish cooking the 
meal instead of giving in to immediate demands for cookies or
crackers brought on by the early arrival of hunger. Occasionally
(maybe every 2 or 3 weeks) she'll claim she's "hunnry" at 7 PM
(usually because she didn't eat enough dinner) and she gets a 
fig newton or some ice cream or a bowl of corn chex. 

The point is, in general, my daughter has eaten regularly
scheduled meals and snacks since she was 1. She has no
_need_ for any milk before bed (although I can imagine how a kid
would get in the habit of enjoying it.)  And, I might point out,
Miranda has never been what you'd call a "good" eater.  She's not
a really poor eater or anything, but _no one_ would accuse her of 
eating so well (or more than other kids her age) such that she can
forgo an otherwise necessary bottle of milk at bedtime. 

Let me re-emphasize -- I don't know if this is normal or not, I'm
only telling you how it is for us.

Try reducing the quantity of milk in the bedtime bottle gradually,
and then skipping it altogether!

Chris 
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: staffan@ca.serum.kodak.com (Kenneth Staffan (x37507))
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Stitches
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:41:11 GMT
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company

>> Moral:  BEFORE an emergency happens, find out where to take your children
>> where they won't have to wait for hours.  Places do exist.
>> --
>> Judy Leedom Tyrer
>
>Yes, but will they take your insurance?

That is also a good thing to check out ahead of time.  Even if they don't, it
may be possible to pay and get reimbursed from the insurance carrier.  Even
if they do, you should know what your carrier's policy is on emergency
treatment - do you have to notify your physician right away, etc.

Ken
---
staffan@serum.kodak.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry)
Subject: Re:"Missing out" (was. re: Justin...)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:51:12 GMT
Reply-To: ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry)
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA

In article <8383.9209091703@bonzo.xylogics.com>, rollo@xylogics.com (Dena 
Rollo) writes:
> In response to Ben Wolfe's post on negative effects
> of drugs during labor, Liz Attree ends with:
> 
> Sorry, it made me mad.
> 
> 
> I just wanted to say ditto, and amen.

I don't understand why the truth would make anyone mad.  All drugs taken 
during labor and delivery can have bad effects.  It's part of the 
informational process necessary to make an informed decision as to whether or 
not you want to use them.  

IMHO, it's very short sighted of people to not make absolutely sure they know 
the costs vs. the benefits of each and every possible intervention.  You owe 
it to yourself, and you owe it to your baby.




Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: MAHER@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Cynthia Maher)
Subject: Re: Names
Organization: The Ohio State University - OCES
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:40:50 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <BuFFyo.Kv7@apollo.hp.com> betsyp@apollo.hp.com writes:
> 
> I had a friend surnamed Ricker who HATED nicknames, and vowed that her
> young'n would have an unnickable name.  Her solution?  "Nicole".
> To which one of my friends immediately replied "Ah, yes, Nicki Ricki!"
> She nearly beaned him.  The last I knew the child in question
> everybody, including her mother, called her "Cole".  Oh, well.

My husband and I also dislike nicknames, so we named our first child
Brendan James (how could you possibly abbreviate Brendan?).  Upon hearing
the name, the first words out of my mother's mouth were, "Oh, B.J.!"

Fortunately, B.J. never caught on--everyone calls him Brendan.