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From: pshuang@athena.mit.edu (Ping-Shun Huang)
Subject: Re: OS/2-The User's View
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1992Aug6.023608.1224@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
	<1992Aug6.210349.29230@news.columbia.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 23:05:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug6.210349.29230@news.columbia.edu> mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:

 > What I would like, is the address of someone who is working on fixing
 > the bugs, to get an authoritative answer on which are known problems.

I think the solution that Timothy Sipples mentioned is the best one...
fill out the available form to send in bug reports.

But I wanted to comment on your wanting a direct pipeline to the
programmers working on making bug fixes. Right now I am plugged into bug
report mailing lists for packages which probably has less than a couple
thousand users total. It takes a finite amount of time each week to deal
read, answer, and/or deal with questions and bug reports. Some of that
finite amount of time is wasted, and programmer resources are finite.

What one *REALLY* needs is just *ONE* layer of people sitting between
each team of developers and the public (preferably these people would
only deal with one product or related products so they would develop a
high level of expertise with it, both from the user's and to some
extent, from the programmer's point of view; also, these people could
use training on how to deal with customers in a polite but firm way).
This intermediary people would take care of filtering out the ones which
are due to user misunderstanding or failure to RTFM; filtering out
redundant bug reports (note for both of these steps the user should
really see some response instead of their e-mail going into the black
hole); properly documenting the reports which are indeed real bugs (this
is non-trivial... you have to communicate with the customer to reproduce
the problem reliably, then garner all possible relevant information
about the customer's computing environment); and finally, forwarding
those bug reports on to the developers.

Ah, if only software development could be done under such ideal
conditions... Sigh.

--
Ping Huang (INTERNET: pshuang@athena.mit.edu), probably speaking for himself

Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.apps:5286 comp.os.os2.misc:27377 comp.os.os2:233
From: holli@greiling.xsmuc.mchp.sni.de (Holger Liebig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2
Subject: Re: Unable to booz x (or booz l) files from ftp-os2
Date: 13 Aug 92 07:11:00 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG, W-8000 Munich

In article <1992Aug10.135235.27759@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK>, ee89mdw@lab11.ee.surrey.ac.uk (Marc Walker) writes:
|> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
|> : In article <1992Aug4.221712.31295@m.cs.uiuc.edu> joshi@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Anil Joshi) writes:
|> : >
|> : emacsbin.zoo file.  Download zoo21.exe from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Run it.
|> 					      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Does anyone have an internet number for this address?
|> 
|> Regards.

Use 128.123.35.151 for ftp-os2.mnsu.deu and
    129.34.139.5   for software.watson.ibm.com

Hope this helps

Holger

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Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.apps:5432 comp.os.os2.misc:27810
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why new COM drivers?
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:16:05 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Aug20.001811.1002@ultb.isc.rit.edu> djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Don Smith) writes:
> I have read various articles about the new OS/2 COM drivers. What are
> the new drivers for? Are they for people who have problems in general or
> just using COM3 or COM4? Should I use the new COM drivers even if I have
> no problems with the original? Help....

At the OS/2 seminar I attended at IBM this evening, the presenter stresses
that if your system isn't broken - DON'T FIX IT. The only exception was the
kernel patch, which everyone using OS/2 should apply (the June 17th patch,
that is). 
 
Steve
-- 
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Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  September 19, 1992, then you 
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            |  must like things the way they 
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       |  are.....can I live with YOU?
From: kdorma@ravana.eche.ualberta.ca (Kevin Dorma)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: which driver for Trident 8900c?
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:20:30 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Alberta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

How's it goin', eh?
Not certain if the post yerterday made it out, here it is again.
Which is the correct driver for a T8900c 1Mb?  I tried 1k-256.zoo
but the 1024x768-256c driver crashed OS/2.  The card is actually
"Photon Ultima Turbo" by Personal Computer Graphics, if this helps.

TIA

                                  | 
Kevin Dorma                       | Hi, my Lyapunov exponent is 2.31.
kdorma@ravana.eche.ualberta.ca    | What's yours?
Ph.D. type of student             | 
Dept. of Chemical Engineering     | Don't look at my disclaimer, your's
University of Alberta             | is much more interesting.
Edmonton, Alberta                 | 
                                  |

 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: jim@sciborg.UWaterloo.ca (Jim Tremain)
Subject: Re: Back up
Summary: Can't get GTARP to work
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:35:09 GMT


I recently saw a thread that stated that GTARP could be used to backup an
HPFS disk.  I remember that they were using it to backup to disk.  Does
this work?  How do you do it.

Thanks Jim

******************************************************************************
Jim@biology.Watstar.Uwaterloo.CA
Jim Tremain
Biology Dept.
Univ of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ont
Canada
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: diesel@odie.ee.wits.ac.za (Bruce Diesel )
Subject: AutoCAD r11 Windows Extension under winos2
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Novell Users).
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:05:56 GMT

Hi

I'm having a problem running AutoCAD windows under WinOS2 - it cannot access 
the dongle on the printer port.  Any ideas.

Thanks
   Bruce
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.programmer
From: thssdag@glen-ellyn.iit.edu (Don A. Graft)
Subject: Re: Help with gcc
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Rice Campus
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:18:19 GMT

In article <df3m6kb.jps@netcom.com> jps@netcom.com (John Serafin) writes:
>mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:
>
>>I just installed gcc for OS/2 2.0.  Does anyone know why it causes an
>>"exception"?  How do I get it to work properly?
>
>>Thanks.
>>Meir
>
>I am having the same problem.   All I can add is that I am using the
>FAT compatible gcc on an HPFS partition.
>I got emx working with no problem.
>
>>$ cat hello.c
>
>>/* hello world */
>>#include <stdio.h>
>>main()
>>{ printf("Hello world\n"); }
>
>>$ gcc hello.c
>
>>SYS1808: 
>>The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
>>code (exception code) is  0006.
>John P. Serafin  |  Operating a bicycle is more like driving than riding.
>jps@netcom.com   |  Operating an automobile is more like riding than driving.

I too had problems with gcc exceptions. Apparently the default stack is too
small. Set it to 8192 in your .def file and things will clear up.
Don
From: gaertner@vnet.ibm.com ("David B. Gaertner")
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: re: Planned apps for OS/2
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:10:13 GMT

As will as the OS2APP.ZIP file on Ziffnet, see below.
 ************************************************************************
  NEW - 2nd Edition of OS/2* APPLICATION SOLUTIONS DIRECTORY and the
        32-Bit SUPPLEMENT AVAILABLE NOW! ____________July 21, 1992

  The new "IBM OS/2 Application Solutions Directory" and the "OS/2
  32-Bit Supplement" are available from Graphics Plus at
  1-800-READOS2 or 1-800-732-3672.  The directory lists more than
  1,700 OS/2 applications including over 350 international products
  and the supplement contains more than 1100 OS/2 Version 2-based
  applications.

  The Directory groups detailed listings of the applications by major
  industry and includes company and major product indexes.  The
  Supplement includes detailed listings of more than 250 applications
  available soon plus the company, product and phone listings of over
  1100 applications planned for 1992 availability.

  Order your copies now by calling 1-800-732-3672.  The directory is
  only $19.95 plus S&H while the supplement is $5.95 plus S&H.

  * Trademark or registered trademark of International Business
  Machines Corporation.
 ************************************************************************
















Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: efeustel@IDA.ORG (Edward Feustel)
Subject: Wanted: Borland Sidekick 2.0 for PM
Organization: IDA, Alexandria, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 11:18:17 GMT

Please send me a mail quote.
Thanks.
Ed

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From: vapspgd@prism.gatech.EDU (Edward Hefter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Shareware wish list  -or-  does it exist?
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:28:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I am looking for the following programs, does anyone know if they exist?  If
so, where are they?  If not, does anyone out there who knows how to program
want to give it a shot?

a)  A background for the desktop that is a calendar page.  The current date
is highlighted, and appointments are also indicated.  Obviously, I owuld not
want the icons covered :-).  

b)  Yet another request for a driver for my Trident 8800C card (I promise
this is the last request, I've a bad feeling it's not going to happen).

c)  Some kind of file manager to work through my Copy II PC Deluxe Option
Board.  If the Mac can read and write IBM disks, I should be able to read and
write their disks, dammit!!!   The Copy II PC Deluxe Option Card (what a
mouthful) does work in a normal DOS windowed session with commands such as
mcopy, mdir, mdel, mtype, mcd, mmkdir, mformat.

Any help out there?
same, da
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                   Trying To Survive the Ga Tech Experience
                         vapspgd@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Subject: Re: Getting a Telecommunications program
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University, New York
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:09:17 GMT

In article <92225.103730DK6TOPER@MIAMIU.BITNET> Dan Karipides <DK6TOPER@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.204252.13033@lth.se>, d89os@efd.lth.se (Ola Sigurdson)
>says:
>>I don't know what modem you'll buy, but I assume that most external
>>14400 modems can communicate with the computer at 19200 or 38400 bps,
>>which are standard rates supported by most com programs.
>>
>Um....I'm not sure where you buy your modems, but wouldn't the maximum
>communication rate of a 14400bps modem be 14400bps?  If you can get
>38400bps out of a 14400bps modem, I'd love to know how you do it.
> 
>(You are right, BTW, that most comm programs support 19200 and 38400.  I
>would imagine these settings are for hardline connections, not modems.)
> 
>Correct me if I'm wrong.

OK; you're wrong!  Newer modems claim throughput of up to 57,600 bps using
V.32bis (14,400 bps over phone line) when combined with V.42bis compression
of some types of data.  You need to match this higher speed on the serial line
to take advantage of the increased throughput.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: GeraldR@sunfish.ratsys.com (Gerald Ruderman)
Subject: Re: Emacs for DOS
Organization: Rational Systems, Inc.
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:44:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.161426.29880@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

>In article <SIMPSON.92Aug4163224@altair.math.uiuc.edu> simpson@altair.math.uiuc.edu (Stephen Simpson) writes:
>>Contrary to what has been posted in this newsgroup, there is a DOS
>>port of GNU Emacs.  It runs on 386 machines or better.  It is called
>>DEMACS.  It is based on DJGPP, the D J Delorie port of GNU C to DOS,
>>using Delorie's 32-bit DOS extender.  It is available for anonymous
>>ftp at wuarchive.wustl.edu:mirrors/msdos/demacs.  It requires either
>>XMS or VCPI memory management.  I am using it with DOS 5.0 and my
>>CONFIG.SYS file is as follows:

>No.  It requires VCPI.  As soon as you install EMM386.EXE for UMB
>access (placing the 386 into v86 mode), the GO32 DOS extender stops
>working.  If you want to use UMB's (one of the only reasons for
>getting DOS 5.0, in my opinin), you can't use any of D J Delorie's
>ports. 

EMM386 DOES provide VCPI support. Perhaps the problems comes from using the 
NOEMS parameter which leaves it without memory to manage.


Gerald Ruderman                                   geraldr@ratsys.com
From: michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: os/2-the user's view
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:01:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) 

DT. From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
DT.
DT. Roger Ramsey writes:
DT.
DT. > None of the Microsoft products I use are bug free either.  However, if I
DT. > recall correctly, IBM was the company that mdae a big deal about shipping
DT. > OS/2 2.0 on time and bug free.  I don't recall Microsoft making such a
DT. > statement openly about their products in recent history.
DT.
DT. I do recall them advertising their FORTRAN compiler as being "GSA certified
DT. to be correct and complete".  Well, either GSA's testing is woefully
DT. inadequate, or else Microsoft is hyping their product as badly as anybody
DT. else.

Curious...  When I reported the fact that backspace does not accurately
count records (discovered by a co-worker), the tech support wienie was
totally unconcerned.  His comment was, "Engineering is currently working
on FORTRAN for Windows and probably won't get to this bug for a good
while."  So much for validation...  Mostly FUD.  Regards, Mikey
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS/2 Shareware/Freeware
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:26:54 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <jt7mtgm.feustel@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>I was using TE2 1.1. TE@ v 1.2 wouldn't work with my Telebit modem.
>Then I inadvertently deleted the 1.1 version and have so far been
>unable to get the reinstalled version to work either. I'm now
>seriously thinking about writing my own com program to run in 32-bit
>mode. I need to get info on VT 100/200 emulation first, though.

Try contacting DEC.  After all, they designed and built the vt-series
terminals.  Maybe they can sell you an ancient VT-100 terminal for $50
or something.  Its programming manual fully explains the codes it
responds to.  Hopefully, this manual is shipped with it!  If it is,
you'll have all the codes, including the DEC-specific codes that you
aren't supposed to rely upon (but you can emulate them!)

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From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Describe Word Processor
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:03:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <890mr2a.bob@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>Some time ago I found a public domain or shareware version of
>Describe for OS/2.
>I lost it, and now I'd liek to have it again.
>Does anyone know where I might find it available for downloading?
>Thanks!
>

It is NOT shareware OR public domain it is a demo of the retail product.

It can be found at our good friend ftp-os2.nmsu.edu under pubs/os2 ????


Martin Smith
msmith@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: barrett@add.itg.ti.com
Subject: LaMail Dictionary?
Organization: Texas Instruments, Austin, Tx.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:25:52 GMT

  Having installed TCP/IP 1.2.1 on my 1.3 version of OS/2 I'm REALLY
impressed with their LAMAIL package.  The editor is first rate.
However, I can't get the "Proof and Synonym" operations to work because
I don't have the proper dictionary.  Is it packaged with the TCP/IP
product?  Is it a separate cost item?  Does it use a "standard"
dictionary format (e.g.  Word) that I could acquire?

  The error msg that I get is that there is no dictionary at the
following location:  c:\lexam\us.dct

Can someone help me?  Please reply to my via e-mail.

Thanks,

Stu Barrett
e-mail: barrett@add.itg.ti.com
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS/2 Shareware/Freeware
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:54:45 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <zwb-zs_@engin.umich.edu> bernyeh@atchafalaya.engin.umich.edu (Bernard Yeh) writes:
>One more thing. When I'm running Telix on full screen Dos, and connected
>  to a U. of Mich host at 19200 bps, it displays about a dozen characters,    
>  pauses for a second or two, then displays another dozen, and so on. Things   
>  speed up if I press a key. I find this really annoying, so what Dos settings
>  do I need to mess with? I tried a few video settings but they didn't seem
>  to help.

This has something to do with a big in idle detection.  Open the DOS
settings for your Telix icon (or the DOS prompt, if you're not
launching it from an icon), and set IDLE_SENSITIVITY to 100, disabling
idle detection.  Your problem should go away.

I had the same problem at 2400 baud using Procomm Plus until I did
this.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: spexet@engin.umich.edu (Dennis Robert Spexet)
Subject: Re: Byte should dump Pournelle (was Re: Windows 3.1 virus attacks OS/2 2.0!)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 17:20:10 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Summary: Don't tell Pournelle that 
Distribution: world 

In article <rick.41.713723282@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard M. Warner) writes:
>Then there are at least two instance in the column where he talks about
>hitting a roadblock, ripping off a fax to the company concerned, and then
>finding the answer in the manuals!  RTFM should be posted in 3' letters
>on every wall in Chaos Manor.  This is an unnecessary burden on the
>tech support staff and teaches everyone that you fax first and read later.
>Inexcusable.

I really shouldn't comment too much on this, seeing that this doesn't have
much to do with OS/2 applications, but this strikes too close to home:

*Never* tell Pournelle to RTFM.  I politely (or so I thought) mentioned it
on his Roundtable in GEnie, and he hit the ceiling, in an electronic sense.
I'm afraid that he took my suggestion as a grievous insult, since he posted
a bunch of messages telling the world how I was insulting him. 

In any event, the only way that he got OS/2 installed was by the assistance
of an IBM SE who came out after Pournelle bitched and moaned to everyone in
electronic sight.

I suspect that he still hasn't read any of the printed documentation yet,
or any of the on-line help files.

>The first part of the column is a rag about installation of ISA boards.
>Then he confesses that his tower was upright as he tried to force it in
>and that it went much better when he turned the tower on its side.  This
>from a man who extolled the virtues of S100 bus systems when he first 
>started his Chaos Manor column.  He should know how to install a board - the 
>problems he had are indicative of how isolated he has become from the world
>of the common user by having tech support folks from every company at his
>beck and call.  

After I (and a couple of other folks) mentioned this on GEnie, he became
rather upset, informing me in very blunt terms that he didn't care a whit
about what I thought.  It is rather humorous, though I must admit that I am
not impressed by his ability to accept criticism.

I'm sorry for being off-topic.  I just thought I'd mention it for good humor.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: man@labrea.zko.dec.com (Richard Man)
Subject: Re: os/2-the user's view
Reply-To: man@labrea.zko.dec.com (Richard Man)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 15:32:58 GMT


In article <weinkam.713760866@sfu.ca>, weinkam@fraser.sfu.ca (James Lawrence Weinkam) writes:
> It is my understanding that when you start win-os2 full screen that it
> first opens a dos vdm and runs windows in the vdm.  Thus a) and c) would
> be identical.  

Yes, that's how it works.

Regarding OS2 vs Windows 3.1 speed - I wrote my thesis and a monthly newsletter
with AmiPro 2.0 under Windows 3.0 and 3.1. I have switched mostly to work under
OS2 now, because a file save command always take a lot less (sometimes in the
order of 5 secs vs. 30 secs) under Win-OS2. OS2/WPS is noticably slower the
Win 3.1/Norton Desktop, but I rather take that hit and have fast file saving.

FWIW, the system setup is 386/25, no cache, 8 mb RAM, FAT file system with
1.5 meg DISKCACHE under OS2 and 2 meg SmartDrv cache under Windows 3.1.

--
- Richard F. Man (man@labrea.zko.dec.com)
"This Dust Has No Mirror"

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: maren@sif.pttrnl.nl (Maren E. van)
Subject: Need SVGA drivers for OS/2 2.0
Keywords: drivers
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:28:41 GMT

I need OS/2 2.0 SVGA drivers for a Chips and Technologies 82c452 video card.

Thanks in advance, 

      Erik