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From: klcummin@uncc.edu (Kieth L Cummings)
Subject: SKB RACKS
Reply-To: klcummin@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:00:34 GMT

I have an SKB rack for my gear but I have mixed feelings.  The positive for SKB is weight and price.  For the money you are not going to find a new rack with as much space that actually closes.  On the minus side, the depth of the SKBs is a problem.
I have a Crown power amp running my speakers (Trace Elliot, but that's another story), and the Crown barely fits in the rack.  So close a fit in fact is it, that I have to unplug the inputs from my preamp before closing.  (I thoght the idea of rackmount was to cut down on hooking up things every gig).  I waouls also like to be able to rackmount on the back,(fans, specialized patch bays, etc.).
But hte most obvious problem is that I HAVE BROKEN AN SKB RACK.  The rack fell 3 feet off of my speakers during setup and broke.  If you Look at an SKB Rack there is a seam rinning down the middle of the rack connected by a very weak weld.  If this weld breaks the plastic rack warps.  You can still keep your gear in the rack, but your covers will not fit.  
But I really can't afford ther extra weight of an anvil right now, and my salesman grudgingly replaced the SKB, so I guess I am OK with them for now.  I just think of them as a temporary solution to my rack problems.  Until the day I can afford roadies...
From: aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: cleaning strings
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:54:02 GMT
Organization: The Other Side of the CPU
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30

frazier@i88.isc.com (John Frazier (HR)) writes:
: 
: For years I've cleaned bass strings by boiling them in water.  Finger scum
: is clearly visible when you empty the pan. Also, you avoid bringing your
: bass into contact with damaging chemicals.  Oh, take the strings off the 
: bass before you boil them.

I've also done this in the past.  I've even added a little vinnegar to the
water before it boils.  They get VERY clean but cheaper strings tend to
seriously degrade after a few cleanings in this fashion.  This is why I was
originally looking for another way to clean them.


Steve J. White
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From: darkshot@rock.concert.net (Michael B Garrett -- Chudys)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Bass Amp Recommendations
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:28:07 GMT
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX

George- I never saw your post about silent/near silent practice setups,
or I'd have suggested my favorite: A stethiscope. (You know, the thing
a doctor wears around her neck when it's not in the freezer).
Secure the flat side to a point on the back of the guitar (try different
places- you'll find the right one easily).
Full range sound, and you can also use it to hunt down weird rattles and
buzzes.

Naturally, there is no effects-loop. Try it, though- it sounds suprisingly
good.

'Shot
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From: bobdavis@scumbag.viewlogic.com (Bob Davis)
Subject: Re: SKB Racks and Hardshell Cases
Originator: bobdavis@scumbag
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:41:31 GMT


I've been using an 8 space and a 6 space SKB rack.  They've been
holding together quite well.

One very good thing about them is they DON'T have the latch hardware
on the rack, but on the lid, so there is no rattling while you are
playing.  Anvil cases, and many others, have the latches on the rack,
not the lids, so you can get lotsa rattling happinin whilst your
rig is attempting to do its thing.
-- 
Bob Davis -- bobdavis@viewlogic.com
"VISUALIZE WHIRLED PEAS"

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From: ron@vicorp.com (Ron Peterson)
Subject: Re: Radio on Amp
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:59:39 GMT

>In article <C01wG1.870@news.cso.uiuc.edu> khumphre@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Keith Humphreys) writes:
>>The Summary line says it all.  Sometimes the radio comes in on my
>>amop in between songs (my songs, not the radios). Anyone know
>>why this happens and if it can be corrected?

My next door neighbor has a CB radio with a long antenna on a tower 30 feet
away from my living room.  When he talks on it I can hear him on my
stereo and on my cordless phone.  I tried every trick I knew of to get
the signal out of my stereo:

  * low pass filters on power strips to filter AC power
  * ferrite beads and bypass capacitors on speaker connections
  * bypass capacitors on amplifier inputs
  * holding big sheets of grounded metal in various locations around the amps.

Nothing worked.  I discovered that if I disconnected everything from the
amps the signal was still getting into them through the small holes in the
metal chassis.  The signal was just too strong to block.  In the course
of my experiments I bought a CB radio of my own so I could cause the
noise problem myself to make it easier to track down.  Here I discovered
that if I broadcast a stronger signal than my neighbor (on any band)
my equipment doesn't pick up the neighbor at all.  In the end I decided
just to ignore it since he broadcasts at exactly the same times everyday.
I think legally I could call the FCC down on him but I don't really want
to hassle him.

ron@vicorp.com or uunet!vicorp!ron
From: pturner@sedona.intel.com (Pete Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Compu-lessons
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:01:55 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: pturner@sedona


I don't know if any of you thumpers are also guitarist and read the 
rec.music.makers.guitar area, but somebody over there proposed something
that seemed rather neat. I thought I'd toss this into the ring for your
evaluation.

It would seem that somebody over there is proposing an "on-line" lesson 
kind of thing. (from here on out I'm guessing, but it seems like a cool
format) (I guess) weekly, some kind sole would put together a lesson on 
the net that could be retrieved (and the way they're talking now, it seems
like they'll be sending PostScript sheet music as well) and practiced at
will by whomever wanted the material. It seems that they are talking about
more theory-oriented stuff.

Kinda neat idea, eh? I admit, the organization of such an adventure would
be a bear, but just imagine...fresh goodies to work on. It would be like
having a direct line in on the author of your favorite practice book!

...well, at least it sounds neat on paper...

	Pete
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From: scook@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Steve Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Bass Amp Recommendations
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:25:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Here's my 2 cents.

I have used a Mesa/Boogie D-180 head for about 10 years and have never had a
problem with it.  It has seen some pretty good knocks and continues to
work perfectly.  Extremely low noise for an all tube amp.  Send and Receive
patches on the front and back of the amp.  Slave and balanced lo-Z out with
pot.  2- 4 Ohm outputs and 2- 8 Ohm outputs and a two speed fan.  I have
used it to drive SVT cabinets down to single 12.  The only compliants I
ever get are volume related (ie. too much).  There are no on-board effects
except for bass and treble boost on those knobs, a mid-range control
and 2 preamps cascaded in Boogie fashion with treble boost.  Some models
have a built-in EQ.  
SC
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Compu-lessons
From: doug@merlin.telcom.arizona.edu (Doug Wellington USGS)
Date: 9 Jan 1993 22:00 MST  
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Telecommunications
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan8.210155.20986@ichips.intel.com>,
    pturner@sedona.intel.com (Pete Turner) writes...
> 
>I don't know if any of you thumpers are also guitarist and read the 
>rec.music.makers.guitar area, but somebody over there proposed something
>that seemed rather neat.
>[stuff deleted] 
>It would seem that somebody over there is proposing an "on-line" lesson 
>kind of thing.
>[more stuff deleted]

Yes, I follow that group too, as well as all of the other r.m.m.
groups.  I also like the idea of these lessons.  I have been working on
my own write-ups about scales and modes, and would be willing to post
them bit by bit.  Anybody else?  (Gee, is it possible to teach slapping
over the net? :-)  -Hi Pete!)

-Doug
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: jamesh@netcom.com (James Hightower)
Subject: Re: Removal of Frets (was Re: Should I buy a new ...)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:46:23 GMT

kuusama@kaarne.cs.tut.fi (Kuusama Juha,,,,) writes:


>But be warned: the sound of the new bass wasn't even close what it had
>been! I quess that the desing of a good sounding fretless is much more
>different from a good sounding fretted one that is apparent to the eye.

I removed the frets from a Kramer, a BC Rich Warlock, and an Ibeenhad, and
all of them sound better fretless than fretted, (esp. the Kramer, which
was only so-so with frets, and very nicely growley without.)
Of course, my idea of a good tone may be quite different than yours.

		-- JJH
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From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Subject: Re: SWR vs. Carvin
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:39:05 GMT


Hi Mike!

    Michael> decision to get an SM400 and an Eden 4x10.

Since that's essentially what I've got (the older Goliath's being an
Eden in disguise :-), you know I'd back up that decision, but...

    Michael>   However, I was looking through the Carvin sale catalog
    Michael> I got in the mail the other day, and they have an
    Michael> incredible price on a stack: PB500 FET head, 4x10 cab,
    Michael> 1x15 cab.  All for $1099 + shipping.  Now, the SWR
    Michael> Redhead commonly goes for ~$1200, and the SM400 plus an
    Michael> Eden 4x10 is between $1300 and $1400, so this price is
    Michael> pretty incredible.

I was perusing that catalog too, not that I'm really in the market for
anything right now. Their stuff really does look very nice, and the
prices seem quite reasonable.  I don't personally know anyone who's
got a Carvin anything, but I've heard nothing but good stuff about
their gear, so...

    Michael> I believe it has all the features of the SM400 except the
    Michael> tube preamp.  Granted, it has a non-parametric graphic
    Michael> EQ, but otherwise it's mostly the same, and it claims a
    Michael> couple of watts more power.

IMHO, the tube preamp and EQ section are some of the strongest points
in favor of the SWR.  When I occasionally use my old GK head, I
*really* miss the warmth of that tube.

    Michael>   The question: anybody own one?  Played one?  A/B'd it
    Michael> with the SWR?  It's especially difficult to figure this
    Michael> one out, since there's no place to check out the Carvin
    Michael> stuff in Boston!

Doesn't Carvin have a 30 day, money back guarantee?  Seems like it
might be worth ordering the amp, checking it out and returning it if
you're not happy with it.  Might cost you some shipping $$$ to return
it, but it could be worth it.  The one thing I always wished I could
do is "borrow" an amp or guitar from the music store for 30 days to
flex the sucker at practice and in a live situation.  Its always hard
to tell just how the gear is gonna sound/feel when you're straining to
hear your setup in the music store fighting against 3 other slappers,
6 screaming guitaroids, a couple of drummers, and some keyboardists
cycling through every dog-bark sample on disk ;-)

-Barry
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: mjkobb@media.mit.edu (Michael J Kobb)
Subject: Re: Bass Amp Recommendations
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:14:22 GMT

Greetings!

  I'd put in a plug for the SWR Redhead.  It's designed very well to
be a good practice/studio/small gig amp.  240 watts, 2x10+horn in a
tuned enclosure that goes amazingly low for a small amp.  It has a
tube preamp and solid-state power amp, with a three band EQ (with
parametric mid), an effects loop with blend control, SWR's "aural
enhancer" circuit.  It has a tuner output, which I found very useful
on my last amp.  It has an XLR output with a pad and ground lift,
and an unbalanced output.  It's also got a headphone jack and a
speaker on/off switch for quiet practice.  Finally, it has a
built-in single rack space, so you can add an effect on-board if you
want.  I don't know quite what I'd put there, but there must be
something. 

  I don't own one of these amps (yet), but I've played them quite a
few times, and I always liked it.  The only complaint I've heard
about them is that it's not very adequate in a heavy rock situation
on its own.  I suspect that adding a 4x10 would make it do quite
well even for loud rock, but I've never tried it that way.

Good luck!
--Mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Bass Amp Recommendations
From: doug@arizona.edu (Doug Wellington USGS)
Date: 9 Jan 1993 21:54 MST  
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Telecommunications
Keywords: Bass Amp
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1ihuc6INNdoj@meaddata.meaddata.com>,
   georged@meaddata.com (George Dibos) writes... (looking for amp)
> 
>Of primary importance to me is FULL frequency response--none of
>that only 4K Hz and down stuff...  I like a bright, "metallic-y"
>roundwound bass sound, but still definitely with a strong low end.
> 
>I don't expect to need much in the way of special effects, but want
>lots of in & out jacks in case I change my mind (not on-board stuff
>now, that is.)
> 

Well, if you want a bright metallic-y sound, then I think the best
combination is the GK800RB through a couple of Hartke 4x10s.  This
is a great rig, especially if you slap.  Another nice thing is that
you have some flexibility with setups.  If you go to a small gig,
take one 4x10 and run full range.  If you go to a larger sized gig
you can take both cabs.  If you have a five stringer with a low B,
you might want to consider a 15" or 18" cab.  The 15" is better
for a "tighter" sound and the 18" is great to rattle teeth and
shake intestines.  The best commercial 18" I have played is a
Carvin.  As I remember, it goes for about $300.  I don't think that
the Hartke 15" is good with the GK, because the bottom part of the
GK puts out 300 watts into 4 ohms.  The Hartke 15" only handles
something like 140 watts... (I think)  Now, on the other hand, I
understand that Hartke is now making a 2x15.  If I can find one
of those, I will grab one!

I have heard good things about the EV 15" that can handle 400 watts.
That would probably be a good consideration with the Hartke 4x10.

As a second alternative, if you want massive power and the ABSOLUTE
most punch, get an AMPEG SVT-II and an 8x10.  The better 8x10 can
handle something like 1200 (!) watts.  Of course the down side of
this setup is the sheer weight and hassle of moving it.  The head
weighs somewhere around 85 pounds and the big 8x10 weighs 220.  The
fun thing is that the 8x10 has a built in hand truck!  Needs it too.
(Oh, that's right - this is supposed to be for practice too, huh?
Bet you can't tell what my dream rig is...)

Yet more doubled pennies...
-Doug
From: grego@bit.UUCP (Greg Sanguinetti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: SKB Racks and Hardshell Cases
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:18:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: bit.546
Reply-To: grego@bit.UUCP (Grego Sanguinetti)
Organization: BIT  Portland, OR

In article <1993Jan8.150219.18320@ryn.mro4.dec.com> rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan7.234513.5320@ichips.intel.com>, pturner@sedona.intel.com (Pete Turner) writes...
>>The question to all you out there in bit-land who also have these cases/racks,
>>have you had any problems with the lock-latches?
>
>Brian Rost talked about problems with his Fender case of the same style.

I have both an SKB 8 space rack and a hard case for my bass. I have only had
them for about 4 months so I don't know about long term reliability. I haven't
had any problems with the latches, they stay closed. The ones on my bass case
are especially tight.

So far so good. I like them both.

-grego
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From: georged@meaddata.com (George Dibos)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Bass Amp Recommendations
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:56:06 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: talon.meaddata.com


I posted about a month ago asking about silent/near-silent practice
setups, and decided the best solution was simply to turn the amp
down.  Every other option had too many drawbacks.

So now I'm shopping for (my) ideal practice/small-gig amp...  NOT
something that simply makes sound, but that is "serious".  An amp
that I can use for years for everything EXCEPT major stage work.
(I'll cross that bridge if I ever get there :-)

Of primary importance to me is FULL frequency response--none of
that only 4K Hz and down stuff...  I like a bright, "metallic-y"
roundwound bass sound, but still definitely with a strong low end.

I don't expect to need much in the way of special effects, but want
lots of in & out jacks in case I change my mind (not on-board stuff
now, that is.)

The guitar will be (probably exclusively) a non-Fender Kubicki Ex-
Factor, which has a bright sound of its own and active electronics.
Music styles I favor are mostly those types of Rock which still have
the Roll in them :-)   Evan Johns and the H-Bombs, Forbidden Pigs,
LeRoi Brothers, Tail Gators, Los Lobos in their party mood, and so
forth.

Money isn't much of a factor, but probably would be if your recommendation
gets into the "dream rig" category.  Let's say shoot for $750-1000, with
a top end of $1500.  

Weight, driver size & count, tube vs solid state, etc. don't concern
me much--I want whatever SOUNDS good.  And the reason I'm not simply
out there trying everything in town is because there ISN'T much in
town...  I'll have to call ahead to surrounding cities--Cincinnati,
Indianapolis, Toledo, and Columbus to find whatever you recommend.

Feel free to suggest good music stores in those cities, too!

Thanks,

George
 	
      


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From: ian@ohm.york.ac.uk (I Stephenson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Bass Amp Recommendations
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:04:51 GMT
Reply-To: ian@ohm.york.ac.uk
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In article <1993Jan7.232124.3351@ichips.intel.com> pturner@sedona.intel.com  
(Pete Turner) writes:
> 
> By the way (I guess as an
> example how this can turn out to your advantage), I own two speaker cabinets.
> One is a 2x10 and the other is a 2x15 -- both are EV EVM Series II's so
> they are real heavy. When I'm practicing at home, I just plug the
> amp into the 2x10 (that stays at home) and start playing...band practice? 
> I leave the 2x15 at the practice room, and from home, grab my bass and 
> the rack, toss 'em in the car and plug in when I arrive.
> 

The portability thing is a bigger issue than those who haven't experienced  
LARGE amps (or rather cabs) may think. In general I don't think its very  
practical to use the same rig for practise (by yourself at home), and rehersal  
(out there with the band). There is no way my Accoustic 2x15 cab would fit up  
the stairs at home! I'm seriously considering switching it for a 4x10 - just  
cause its smaller! At home I use a tiny fender/squire/sun st-15 amp. The tone  
is supprisingly good at low volumes (seeing as no one is listening anyway),  
it's small enough to have lying around/carrry with one hand, and was dead cheap  
($40).

I'd definitly recomend going with seperates - easier to transport, and easier  
to change (to upgrade, or for the use described above), preferably rackmount,  
cause then you can stick all the fiddly bits in one box  
(effects/tuners/wireless/power supply).

Given George's original spec, then the obvious choice would be Hartke - I'm not  
sure on the US price, but I recently saw a head+4x10T for 800 Pounds - shop  
around and you should get it in your pice range. Given the bass to be used, and  
Georges taste in music (re Stu Hamm post!) I think he basicaly has the Hartke  
sound in mind. Can't say I blame him realy :-) If I had the cash, I'd get one.  
(Anyone want to buy an Accoustic 402 Cab? [1/2 :-)])

Ian Stephenson
ian@ohm.york.ac.uk
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From: frazier@i88.isc.com (John Frazier (HR))
Subject: Re: cleaning strings
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 22:00:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.135312.23303@netcom.com> jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch) writes:
>In article <1httjuINNe63@uwm.edu> aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.) writes:
>>Someone recently posted something about using alcohol and Windex for
>>cleaning bass strings, or maybe even strings in general.  My question is in
>>which order do I use these two compounds?
>
>I'm the guilty party! Use the windex first, it has a detergent which gets
>cleaned off by the alcohol. _Note:_ windex contains ammonia, be careful where
>it goes.

For years I've cleaned bass strings by boiling them in water.  Finger scum
is clearly visible when you empty the pan. Also, you avoid bringing your
bass into contact with damaging chemicals.  Oh, take the strings off the 
bass before you boil them.

Xref: sparky rec.music.makers.bass:501 alt.guitar.bass:2213
From: mbthm@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (T.H.L. Murcott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Fretless Bass and Amp for Sale
Date: 6 Jan 1993 09:40:32 -0000
Organization: Daresbury Lab., Warrington, U.K.
Distribution: UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: seqnet.dl.ac.uk

Hi,

I have a near mint condition Washburn Status Fretless for sale.

	Active Electronics
	Natural Finish
	Dual Status pickups
	Status brass hardware
	Case
	Through the body one piece carbon neck


Also a Laney 150 Bass Amp.

	15 band graphic
	FX loop
	Preshape
	150 Watts into 4 ohms


Poverty and moving on to other things forces very reluctant sale.  Bass cost 
#500 new, amp #275.  Will consider any serious offer.  Based in Bristol and will
organise viewing if wanted.

Toby

e-mail Murcott@bsa.bristol.ac.uk or mbthm@seqnet.dl.ac.uk
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