HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: muthu@mecad.uta.edu (S.N. Muthukrishnan)
Subject: New multiple H1 from D.C.
ReplyTo: muthu@mecad.uta.edu
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
NntpPostingHost: mecad.uta.edu
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:47:12 GMT
X-Bytes: 567

Hi there,

I have a question for the H1 gurus on the net. If I have a multiple entry
H1 from Monterrey and then I change my job, which means I get a new H1,
is there a way to get this new H1 converted to multiple entry without
having to go to Mexico again. I have heard from some people that this can
be done by sending the passport and new visa approval to Washington D.C. or
to N.Y. city, but I am not sure how and where.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Regards,

Vineet S. Joshi


S. N. Muthukrishnan                   muthu@mecad.uta.edu (NeXT mail)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Out language education: goof
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:16:25 GMT

In my article titled Our language education, I goofed 
badly with my reference to Prof. Chandrasekharan's Bengali
barbs. On re-reading his article I found no such things.

My sincere apologies to Prof. Chandrasekharan.

I am sure I read something about a Bengali saying debices
for devices somewhere. I just can't find the reference
anywhere.

The error is regretted. (What did DC say?)

Sthan.

PS.  I had to post the article through cs.utexas.edu since
it was written on a different machine and mailed to this
bbs address.
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From: shubu@cs.utexas.edu (Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Aditi Sens's e-mail address.
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:56:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oops Research Group, CS Dept, U. of Texas-Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: oporto.cs.utexas.edu
In-reply-to: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca's message of 31 Jul 92 03:20:00 GMT


>>>>> In article <30JUL199222200410@vax2.concordia.ca>, debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE) writes:
DC> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


DC> Hello Ms.Sen,

DC> I just cannot understand why you have incorrect e-mail address ?? I rec'd
DC> y'r e-mail, and, when I am trying to reply, it bumps back !!  What the hell
DC> you think y'r upto ??? Anyway, with the help of Craig Buchanan I found out that
DC> your actual e-mail address is:

DC> me@comstore.uark.edu and NOT me@comstore.uark.edu.uark.edu.

Are you sure Mr.Chatterjee *YOU* are not making a mistake again?  In all of
Aditi's last 7/8 postings, her e-mail address clearly appears as:

From: me@comstore.uark.edu (My Account)
X-Posted-From: comstore.uark.edu

The only place it is appearing as me@comstore.uark.edu.uark.edu is in this 
posting of yours:

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From:   VAX2::DEBCHAT      27-JUL-1992 13:26:39.79
To:     DEBCHAT
CC:
Subj:   Aditi's letter plus my reply

From:   IN%"me@comstore.uark.edu.uark.EDU"  "My Account" 27-JUL-1992 11:30:53.64
To:     DEBCHAT@Vax2.Concordia.CA
CC:
Subj:   WB : Communists out? in

Return-path: <@comstore.uark.EDU:me@comstore.uark.edu.uark.EDU>
Received: from Clyde.Concordia.CA by Vax2.Concordia.CA with PMDF#10236; Mon, 27
 Jul 1992 11:30 EDT
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The SMTP protocol in your place or Aditi's might be screwed up as well.

BUT you have  made a fool of yourself *again* on the net.
Open your eyes and read properly.  You don't need Craig Buchanan's help 
to find out Aditi's e-mail address.  Try making sure *you* are not making a 
mistake before bashing other people.

DC> Ridiculous !!! Do you think that someone is goin' to send you `lovely' 
DC> e-mails ? I feel that you are not that important so as someone would do such a
DC> thing ! At least, I don't think anybody would like to have his/ her account
DC> suspended !!!! Next time, put your true e-mail address; don't fake it.

As I pointed out she is *not* faking it.  *You* screwed up BIG time 
Mr.Chatterjee.

BTW, why are you SO desperate to contact Aditi anyway (considering that 
she is "not that important")? :-)

Luck!
-Shubu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Extra-marital relationships
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 05:27:46 GMT

This is what Richard A. Rosen says in "Sex and Reason" on the subject
of sexual morality which I think underlies the question of whether
extra-marital relations is not the done thing or not.  Its relevance
to sci is that I think we too will go through the same stages.

If the woman's occupation is that of a simple breeder, companionate
marriage is unlikely, and without it such "immoral" practices as
prostitution, adultery, and homsexuality are likely to flourish.
This is stage 1 in the evolution of sexual morality.  If the woman's
occupational role is enlarged to include that of child rearer and
husband's companion, as well as breeder, companionate marriage is
possible, and leads in turn to the condemnation of the "immoral"
practices; they are more anomalous in conditions of companionate
marriage, yield fewer benefits as safety valves, and endanger marriage
more.  This is stage 2, which in Western culture prevailed during 
the era of Roman Catholic hegemony and indeed until about the
middle of the twentieth century.

The first two roles are strongly family oriented rather than market
oriented, and considerations of secure paternity [of the child] are
foremost.  But if the woman's role is further enlarged to include 
market employment, then while such marriages as there are will be
companionate, there will be fewer marriages; other forms of sexual
relationship will no longer seem so abnormal; and policies designed
to foster premarital virginity and marital chastity for the sake of
companionate marriage will lose much of their point.  This process
of role enlargement, which ushers in stage 3 in the evolution of
sexual morality, has progressed further in Sweden than in any other
country.  

In stage 3, as in stage 1, and in contrast to stage 2, men enjoy 
almost complete sexual license.  The difference between stages 1
and 3 is that in the latter, but not in the former, women do too.
From: sonimh@mace.cc.purdue.edu (manish soni)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR HOUSING WITH INDIAN FEMALES, PURDUE,W.LAF.,INDIANA.
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:51:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

Hi! I am looking for rental apartment for my friend Nivedita Namdev for 
the fall semester onwards. She prefers to share apartment with other 
Indian Girls. The only condition is that the apt.should be near to the
PURDUE UNIVERSITY, WEST LAFAYATTE, INDIANA. (walkable distance).
She is a new student at Purdue, and will be here around the 2nd. week of
August'92. I request an early reply to me at sonimh@mace.cc.purdue
or by telephone at 317-743-3528. SO INDIAN GIRLS AROUND PURDUE,W.LAF.
please respond promptly.In case you do not have any apt. in mind kindly
pass this news around other girls and let me know at the earliest.


Regards and Thanks,

Manish Soni, 
office: Rm. 013, Wetherill Laboratory of Chemistry, tel 4-9420. 

P.S. She will be a  Graduate Student in chemistry here.
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: May I suggest the Crick virus?
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:53:09 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Jul21.120458.8807@uoft02.utoledo.edu> pvittal@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>
>WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET THESE TWO BUFFOONS OFF THE NET?
>NOT ONLY ARE THEY DISPLAYING THEIR IMMATURITY TO THE ENTIRE READERSHIP, BUT
>THEY ARE ALSO MISUSING THE NET. I DONT THINK THE NAME "SOC. CULTURE. INDIAN"
>  APPLIES TO THIS NEWS GROUP ANY MORE
>   Better to display our immaturity than something else.  As for misusing
the net, hey, it's a free country, right??  or do you propose that you and
Mr. Chatterjee regulate who can say what??

>ISNT THERE ANYONE WHO CAN ACT AS A MODERATOR OF THIS NEWSGROUP AND BLACKLIST
>THESE MORONS?
>
>pradeep
>
>  Isn't there someone who can teach you to use the lowercase letters on
your keyboard.  And what does any of this have to do with India?


Ed
From: waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hindu Refugees
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:30:43 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

I hope this article wasn't intended as an anti-Muslim propaganda.
If you look at it, any minority who looks vulnerable will be prosecuted
not just Hindus. No one is out there looking for Hindus to hunt down.
In your example of other countries (Uganda, Fiji, Kuwait, S Africa etc) 
where Hindus were being prosecuted, the Muslims were too. 
No one made a distinction between Muslims and Hindus when it came to 
witch hunt time. The only place that appear to have done so  was Afghanistan. 

Let me play the devil's advocate here and give you a couple of reasons why
the Afghan mujahideen may be doing this

1. India supported the communist govt throughout.
2. India even offered sanctuary to Najibullah which didn't exactly
   endear them to the Afghanistanis.
3. The Afghanistani-Indians did not quite participate in the liberation
   of afghanistan so the mujahideens may view them as communist stooges
4. It's not just Hindus that are being killed. Muslims are also being
   killed in the intra-tibal fighting. But that doesn't get noticed, does it?
   If ONLY Hindus were being killed, then I'd be inclined to believe you.


regards
waseem


In article <92207.195728DXA4@psuvm.psu.edu> <DXA4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>For the last ten years Hindus have become victims of terrorism and religious
>fundamentalism not only in India but abroad also. This has created a large
>number of these unfortunate people as helpless refugees living in utter pathe-
>tic conditions. And the government and the authorities concerned pay any atten-
>tion to their plight. Most political parties are also indifferent. The sole
>crime of these people is that they are Hindus. Here I reproduce some excerpts
>from an article on this issue recently published in Sunday (Weekly), July 5-11,
>1992.
(other stuff deleted)
> *************************************************************************
-- 
Waseem A. Siddiqi                                 Tel:    (416) 922 1937 
SCO Canada                                        email: waseems@sco.com 
Toronto, Canada                                        uunet!sco!waseems
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mannik@sce.carleton.ca (V.R. Manikka Thyagarajan)
Subject: Info. on N.Dakota Univ.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:56:41 GMT

Hi Neters,

A friend of mine from Salem, T.N, is planning to pursue
masters in Electrical Engineering at N.Dakota Univ.

I would appreciate if any of you could provide info regarding

  * Financial Assistance (he is interested in microprocessors &
         its appln.!)
  * On-campus employment.
  * Housing Info.
  * Preferred route from India!
  * Climatic conditions.
  
Thanks in advance for your help.

- V R Manikka Thyagarajan
  email: mannik@sce.carleton.ca 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU (C Nagappa - behind the scenes)
Subject: India won't allow temple
Reply-To: nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:20:40 GMT

NEW DELHI, India - India's Supreme Court ordered a northern state to stop 
militant Hindus from constructing a temple within yards of a 16th century 
Muslim mosque.

	The order to the government of Uttar Pradesh came in the midst of 
unrest over plans by some Hindus to replace the Babri mosque with a temple to
honor Ram, one of the chief gods of the Hindu pantheon.

	On Monday, six people were killed in Hindu-Muslim clashes related to the
planned temple.

	<Houston Chronicle, Thursday, July 23>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Justice Bains Writes in the Indian Express
Keywords: Justice Bains, Human Rights, Punjab
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:21:10 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)

Lets fry the guy.  Anybody who aids terrorists should be fried...

**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
**********************************************************************
From: somasun@server.uwindsor.ca (SUNDHAR SOMA             )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test
Keywords: life,is,test
Date: 28 Jul 1992 05:00:06 GMT

Hi, 
This is a test. The FIRST ONE.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: amarasekera@cemmva.cem.msu.edu
Subject: Test
Reply-To: amarasekera@cemmva.cem.msu.edu
Organization: MSU_Chemistry
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 06:29:24 EDT

This is a test
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:26129 alt.culture.us.asian-indian:300 soc.culture.asian.american:7185
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.women,talk.abortion
Subject: Abortion and the status of Indian women
From: <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 28 Jul 1992 08:15:00 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

        There was recently a posting by an Indian bemoaning the position of
    women in India and ending up  with a support for a pro-choice  position
    in what appeared to be a  partial apology.  I cannot find the  posting,
    but the issue is important so I will respond.

         It is certainly true that the position of women in India is  worse
    in several ways  than that of  their US counterparts.   However, a good
    businessman, evaluating his position, does not count just his debts  or
    just his assets.  He counts both and subtracts  his debts from his
    assets. Surely this is a more realistic way of proceeding.

    1.  India, in its 45 years of independence, has already had a  powerful
    woman prime minister.   The US, in  its 216 years  of independence, has
    yet to  have even  a woman  vice-president.  For  all the lambasting of
    male white  heterosexuals that  we see  in the  media, all  four people
    currently running for major parties belong to this category.

    2.  Goddesses play an imprtant role in Hinduism, the principal religion
    of India.   They do  not play  a corresponding  role in  Judaism or  in
    Protestant Christianity.   In the  Gita, Krishna  addresses Arjuna many
    times, not  by his  own name,  but as  Kaunteya, the  son of Kunti, his
    mother.  This attitude belies  the belief that women  are un-important.
    It should be pointed out also that the phenomenon of Sati is  connected
    with  this  identification  of  women  with  goddesses.   Not  that the
    practice  is  acceptable,  but  it  IS  illegal,  extremely  rare,  and
    originates in the  idea that a  woman of virtue  (who need NOT  cremate
    herself to become a sati) becomes a minor goddess.

    3.  According to the Encycopedia Britannica, the rate of rape in  India
    is about 3% (yes, three percent) of the rate in the US. No doubt  there
    is under-reporting, but that applies also in the US.

    4.   When  I  was  a  college  student  in  Bombay, about a third of my
    professors were  women.  After  I transferred  to Harvard,  NONE of  my
    professors were women.

        Coming  back  to  the  issue  of  abortion.   Abortion is routinely
    advertised in Indian trains, at least in Bombay.  It may  theoretically
    seem  as  if  legalized  abortion  improves  the  position of women and
    children are better taken  care of.  But this  seems not to be  true in
    practice.  Rape, child abuse and illegitimacy have all increased in the
    US since 1973, not perhaps as a result, but certainly in spite of Roe v
    Wade.  I do not oppose all  abortions, but it is worth noting  that Dan
    Quayle is not the most credible opponent of abortion.  People with much
    better moral  credentials who  oppose abortion  include Mother  Teresa,
    Mahatma Gandhi, Daniel Berrigan and Susan B. Anthony.

         Rohit Parikh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: guru@engin.umich.edu ( V. Guru Shankar)
Subject: India-Pakistan talks to resume after 9 month break
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 13:04:02 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

UPI reports:
-----------

	ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (UPI) -- Talks between India and Pakistan will
resume in the Indian capital of New Delhi Aug. 17 after a nine-month
break during which the two south Asian neighbors came very close to an
armed conflict, a government spokesman said Wednesday.
	The foreign secretaries of the two nations will meet for a two-day
sixth round of bilateral talks, the official said. The previous round
was held in Islamabad in October 1991.
	The two dominant nations on the Indian subcontinent have fought three
wars since achieving independence from Britain in 1947. Last year India
and Pakistan signed a pact pledging not to attack each other's nuclear
facilities, and exchanged a list of such plants.
	The pact was a major achievement ``especially because the two
countries were able to do so despite their traditionally bad relations,''
said a foreign diplomat based in Islamabad. Foreign experts believe both
India and Pakistan have achieved the capability to make nuclear weapons
and are now developing delivery systems.
	A spokesman for the Pakistani Foreign Office said in Islamabad that 
``all important bilateral issues will be discussed during the sixth
round,'' including the disputed territories of Kashmir, Siahchen, Sir
Creek and Wullar Barrage.
	The official said the officials will finalize a code of conduct for
their accreditated diplomats while posted in India or Pakistan. Last
month, Pakistan sent back an Indian diplomat, claiming he was caught
buying classified documents from a Pakistani source.
	Later, India ousted two Pakistani diplomats from New Delhi, accusing
them of espionage.
From: shrirang@Autodesk.COM (Shrirang Moghe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: e-mail address for NCL PUNE
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:13:11 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

Hello friends,

I want to send an email to a friend at NCL PUNE. Does anybody
out there know about the proper address ?

Thanx for your help.

shrirang moghe [shrirang@autodesk.com]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: oaf@serverx.osf.org (Oded Feingold)
Subject: Re: US National Debt and its relevance on SCI
Summary: you guys are gonna pay terabux for wasting bandwidth
Keywords: archie debt garnish Greenspan Mossbacher Trillian trillion
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:22:34 GMT


Oh, no!  Messrs. Chacko, Crick and Banerjee are at it again!  This
time they are fighting over the US national debt.

You guys must stop this nonsense RIGHT NOW, or I will tell my uncle,
Robert Mossbacher, the Secretary of the Treasury, and Alan Greenspan
(chairman of the Fed) to assign the entire debt to you personally.
Equal portions.

We will pay it off by garnishing your salaries.  If that doesn't work,
joint RAW/Mossad teams will find your assets, then, *_ahem_*, garnish
those too.

Is that a sufficient debt threat?
From: sankar@hal.COM (Sankar Bandy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Regarding RAW-Mossad Nexus to Fight Terrorism
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:57:57 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: quality.hal.com

In article <l78g45INN399@alhena.usc.edu> sadhal@alhena.usc.edu (Sati Sadhal) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.155113.15926@cis.ohio-state.edu> jayasim@platypus.cis.ohio-state.edu (D Jayasimha) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul24.212423.16686@u.washington.edu> ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) writes:
>>[stuff deleted]


Getting the help of MOSSAD does not mean we sanctify whatever
ISRAEL has done politically in the past or are doing at
present, but to use the proven strength of their anti-terrorist
skills to our benefit. We know that snakes are poisonous and
snake bite can result in death by poisoning.But remember...
THE POISON OF A SNAKE CAN BE USED AS A MEDICINE and very
satisfactorily against potentially dangerous diseases.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sunil@cs.columbia.edu (sunil ramchandani)
Subject: Visa Query (Changing jobs while on H-1B)
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:31:24 GMT


Hi,

I have a query regarding changing jobs while on H-1B.

The situation is as follows :

Currently I hold a job with a H-1B visa. I have not yet started the Green
Card process. I have now gotten a job offer from another company which
wants me to start working for them in 2 weeks time, that is even before
their immigration dept. and lawyers can get my new H-1B visa. I was a bit
skeptical about this, since resigning from my current job would mean that I
lose my current H-1B visa even before I get the new H-1. The imm. dept.
from this new company has assured me that I *will* get the new H-1, since I
already had a H-1. But I am not sure if it would be prudent to be without a
proper status (i.e. I lose my current H-1, and wait for a couple weeks to
get my new H-1). Have any of you been in such a situation ?
Can you please advice ? Please send me email, and I will summarise on the
net. Thanks for any input.

sunil ramchandani  (sunil@cs.columbia.edu)
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Kerala Today: some thoughts
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:36:57 GMT



>      Kerala: Literacy, Women and a Dead Revolution.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>There we see the society in Kerala today. A revolution brought with it
>literacy, emancipation, and high standards of health; its remnants 
>propped up by selfish political interests brought in economic stagnation.
>The pendulum is swinging back; to capitalism, to communalism, to corruption 
>and to misguided politics. There's a lack of ambition; there's lethargy, and
>looking inward is fashionable. We are a people in need of a direction,
>a culture in need of challenges, a society in need of a niche in the
>maelstorm of a world. 

>Joseph Sirosh

*That's why we believers say God works in mysterious ways. The Bahai faith
is prepared to breathe life in this dead corpse; actually not only in Kerala
but dead corpses all over in the world. We are ready and eager to capitalize
on all the social upliftment that the communism has achieved.
Arindam*

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