From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: I'm God.
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:25:35 GMT
Followup-To: talk.religion.misc
Organization: Apple

In article <69165@hydra.gatech.EDU>, rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard
Pitts) wrote:
> In article <ksand-230992123610@wintermute.apple.com> ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
> 
> Summary of Dr. D. James Kennedy's book "Why I Believe"
> 
> [1]Why I Believe the Bible:
> The Bible gives many predictive prophecies.  It tells us of 
> a coming Prophet into whom's mouth God will put his words.  
> It tells not to fear anyone who gives a prophesy that is 
> false.  The Bible even quotes God as saying that there is 
> none like God, himself, declaring the end from the 
> beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not 
> yet done.

I read this stuff, and it does not contain any objective
historical evidence of Jesus being a real person. C'mon,
I don't believe in Santa Claus either, even if I've read
many books telling me that he exists. 


> Today's 'prophets' (e.g., Jeane Dixon) don't do very well in 
> their prophecies.  [They help sell the tabloids, but do fail 
> miserably in their fulfillment.]  Dr. Kennedy says "Perhaps 
> God wanted to show people how incapable they are of 
> predicting the future."

Jesus wasn't perfect either -- his predictions that would happen
during the lifetime of the disciples didn't happen.
 
> The Old Testament contains some 2,000 predictive prophecies 
> - not a few lucky guesses.  These prophecies are detailed.  
> They often predict things that were not likely to come to 
> pass - the very opposite of human expectations.  In many 
> cases the writer had already died and even the writings had 
> been translated into Greek before some of the prophecies 
> came to fulfillment.

The predictions are so diffuse they don't give us enough
information to verify if they are true or not.
> The two cities of Samaria and Jerusalem were spoke about and 
> Jerusalem was to be attacked, destroyed, have its people 
> carried away captive, and have its walls destroyed, but then 
> it was to have its walls rebuilt.  Samaria's walls were to 
> be cast down and made like a vineyard.  History testifies to 
> this.

Ouch, that happened more than once, which event are we dealing
with? The move to Babylonia?
> Some say Jesus never really existed - he was a myth.  
> Consider this - Historian J. Gilchrist Lawson says: "The 
> legendary, or mythical, theory of Christ's existence is not 
> held by any one worthy of the name scholar.

We are not really dealing with the historical person of Jesus, he
has most likely existed as a Messiah-wannabe. We are dealing with
the man that did miracles, and those are not registered in Jewish
documents. Only in manuscripts that we don't even know who wrote.

I say this once again, I do believe in Australia, and the kangoroo
and the boomerang, because I have read reports about them, and 
even seen them. I don't believe in fairies just because they are
documented, and my grand-grand mother saw them.

Cheers,
Kent

	Faith is often the boast of the man who is too lazy to	investigate. -F.M.
Knowles
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