From: hernlem@che14.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: Avoiding Flames
Reply-To: hernlem@che14.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:10:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.064632.9237@discus.technion.ac.il>,
davidba@carmel.technion.ac.il (David Ben_Ami) writes:
> In article <1992Jul22.193904.6848@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU
(Brad Hernlem) writes:
> >In article <52fm09f.analyst@netcom.com>, analyst@netcom.com (David
> >Sternlight) writes:
> >>
> >> Sandra is full of mirth when she says the Israelis are doing the same
> >> thing in Lebanon that the Syrians are.
> >>
> >> Very droll, Sandra.
> >>
> >> The Israelis are there to prevent attacks on Israel from Lebanon.
> >> The Syrians are not there to prevent attacks on Syria from Lebanon.
> >>
> >> Sandra, uh, er, did you actually PASS political science?
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Sternlight        David Sternlight Inc.       
email:analyst@netcom.COM
> >
> >One wonders whether Israel is in Lebanon to instigate attacks on Israel.
> >The PLO has been disarmed in Lebanon and the Hezbollah have not attacked
> >Israel except after the death of Mosavi. It is certainly possible for
> >the Lebanese resistance to strike Israel if it chooses. Since it does
> >not, it would seem that Israel is not a target. The Lebanese are
> >fighting to push Israel out of Lebanon. Israel knows that Syria is
> >capable of controlling the Lebanese border just as it is capable of
> >controlling its border with Israel. Israel is in Lebanon because it
> >wants to be there, not because it has any real security concern. If
> >Israel is afraid of the Lebanese it is probably because they know that
> >they have rained rockets and artillery rounds down on their heads for
> >years and have bulldozed their homes and destroyed their villages. All
> >because of what? -- the fear that a few Israelis might be killed because
> >of a border infiltration? Some might say killing your neighbors is a way
> >to ensure your safety and survival; I call it murder and terrorism.
> >
> >It is time for Israel to get out of Lebanon and let both countries live
> >in peace!
> >
> >Brad
> 
> Just yesterday 1 soldier was killed and 3 wounded in the Security Zone
> in a Hezbolla amubush. so are we to let these guys have free hand there
> so they'll aim their Katyusha better and restore the people of Northern
> Israel to the days of 1981 (or the days of the Scuds in all of Israel).
> 
> I think we will not be so naive as to retreat only yo have to come
> later and lose sons again.
> 
> David.

It is unfortunate that Israel takes this position, I think. You may note
that the Hezbollah were not the ones attacking Israel in 1981. They are
the new enemies but I believe this is because of Israel's continued
occupation of their country and almost daily shelling and bombing of
their villages. There has never been anywhere near the amount of terror
inflicted upon Israel that it inflicts upon the Lebanese (in the name of
retaliation and self-defense, no less). I seriously believe that Israel
is responsible for its fears about Lebanon. The longer Israel maintains
a zone of destruction around its northern border with Lebanon, the more
enemies it will create.

I believe for the interest of both sides a resolution to this conflict
should be found sooner rather than later.

Brad

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