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From: smithd@CS.ColoState.EDU (Deb Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: MASH finale on video?
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:54:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Is the 2.5 hour finale of MASH (Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen) available
on video?  I could have sworn I saw it for rent in a video store a
few years ago, but I've never seen it for sale.

Please mail replies, as I don't read this group regularly.

Thanks in adavance,
Deb Smith
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: LBX Raiders and Temple of Doom
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:40:06 GMT



Raiders of the Lost Ark and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom in
LBX format are out. Got my copies from Sight & Sound today.

-- 
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: Is the LBX Excalibur OK?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 15:52:58 GMT

>>>>> On 28 Aug 92 08:26:03 GMT, smah@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Steve Mah) said:


smah> I've noticed that a few people have posted saying that their
smah> copies of the new Excalibur LD had some slight defects- are
smah> these just isolated incidents or is it widespread?  (i.e. is
smah> there someone out there with a disc without any defects?)

Only the first 20 minutes or so has white spots flashing, due to the
transfer it seems. After that the rest of the movie is fine.
--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: howard@monitor.com (Howard Brenner)
Subject: Star Trek VI
Reply-To: howard@monitor.com (Howard Brenner)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:43:35 GMT

Has anyone caught Start Trek VI on disk yet?  I have II, III and IV and  
have been pretty happy with them (all are in Letterbox format).  I liked  
VI in the theater and wondering if it's worth getting on disk.
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From: ins598w@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Roger Tall)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI on video when?
Organization: Monash University
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 03:05:06 GMT


Sorry about the blank page just then!
(The orignal "poster" here)

Okay to my question (as if you haven't guessed!):

When in the world is STAR TREK VI coming to video here in 
AUSTRALIA (Victoria in particular) ????

Prompt reply needed please!!!

Thanks

Roger Tall
e-mail:	 ins598w@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au

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From: lthompsn@polari.online.com
Subject: Raiders of the Lost Ark (lbx)
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:00:17 GMT

PRICE: $24.95
Paramount Home Video
"Raiders of the Lost Ark"
LV 1376-WS
Letterboxed Edition

Well, it's finally out.  Here are my impressions.  I should say that I haven't
seen this film for about 5-6 years.

This is one of the first Paramount discs (maybe THE first but I don't buy every
Paramount disc) to use CHAPTERS and a TABLE OF CONTENTS.  Also, although the 
film is under 2 hrs (1 disc), it is in a gate-fold jacket (the interior has som
e pictures) and a listing of the chapters.

The film is letterboxed around 2.2-2.35:1 (I'm not picky enough to sit there
and measure it, suffice it to say it 'looks right').   The print is in relativ
ley good shape.   Like the STAR WARS films, however, some of the edits are a 
bit rough. (Actually in my opinion, those noticable film edits simply add to
the "movie" experience).    The width is well used and I'm sure a P&S v.s.
letterboxed edition comparison would be very interesting (as was Star Trek 2).

The disc itself is packaged in a baggie (:( ) but maybe Paramount will change
that later.

There are no trailers listed on the jacket.   I can't say there isn't a surprise(I'm not expecting one) -- I haven't played the entire disc yet.   To make
sure I don't start a rumor, Paramount has yet to put trailers on their discs.
I haven't seen the side break yet either but hopefully it's well-chosen.


-- 
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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: speaking of TPV
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 04:02:16 GMT

In article <zarthac.714606966@camelot> zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:
>has anybody seen a new issue of TPV?  The last one I saw was the one with the Moses-type guy holding the slate which said thou shalf preserve old movies on it.... I haven't seen a new issue since....
>

The new issue has been out for a few weeks now. It's got a mock-up of
the "Silence of the Lambs" poster on the cover.

                                              -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: When is Abyss collectors edition due out?
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 18:20:25 GMT

In article <zarthac.714571236@camelot> zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:
>When is Cameron slated to release the collectors edition of the Abyss LD?  

According to an interview in _The Perfect Vision_ the collectors edition will
be out for the Cristmas season.

Michael


-- 
Michael Kaufman | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on
 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
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From: bennett@adobe.com(Bennett Leeds)
Subject: Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark (lbx)
Reply-To: bennett@adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:55:54 GMT

lthompsn@polari.online.com writes
>...  Like the STAR WARS films, however, some of the edits are a 
> bit rough. (Actually in my opinion, those noticable film edits simply add to
> the "movie" experience).   

On *many* of the edits in the film, the frame before the cut has a horizontal 
band (about 1-2" high on my 19" monitor) in which the picture is lighter or 
tinted slightly. While watching the move you're aware of a flash in the lower 
region of the picture. Still fields with my D701 let me examine the problem 
more closely. No, this isn't a D701 problem as the lighter areas only occur 
just before the edit - it's a film problem.

Does anyone know the cause of this? It really is distracting (even worse than
the occassional black band from my D701).


> There are no trailers listed on the jacket. 

And there are no trailers on the disc.


> I haven't seen the side break yet either but hopefully it's well-chosen

The side break was reasonably well chosen, IMHO.

- Bennett Leeds
bennett@adobe.com
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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Akira CRI date, was Re: Beauty & the Beast Box Set
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:15:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.034109.7278@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
>In article <#xcnh!=@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>>
>>I hope to find the Criterion Akira in my mailbox before the weekend though. :-)
>
>Not likely.  A person I spoke to at Voyager on August 25th said it 
>wouldn't be out until October.

October 21, to be exact. At least that's what they said when I called
last week.

But then I seem to recall them saying something about "Just after the start
of the year" when I called them last Fall, so who knows how much longer
it will actually be...

                                          -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: Is the LBX Excalibur OK?
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:26:56 GMT

Just to toss my $0.02 worth in, my copy of Excalibur appears to be fine, on
all sides.  (A lot gorier than I remember, but that Nicol Williamson... what
a voice!)

                           "Al Gordon used to be my gardener!  I taught him
                            how to speak English!  Now he worships me like a
                            god!"
---
                                        Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
INTERNET:     moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
Manual UUCP:  {uunet, uw-beaver, sun, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty
CREDO:        You gotta be Cruel to be Kind...
                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**

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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 06:54:30 GMT

In article <BtnIGo.HC@monitor.com>, howard@monitor.com (Howard Brenner) writes...

} Has anyone caught Start Trek VI on disk yet?

Well, considering that it's been out for almost 2 months so far, I would
hope so. :-)

} I have II, III and IV and have been pretty happy with them (all are in
} Letterbox format). I liked VI in the theater and wondering if it's worth
} getting on disk.

Put it this way: I liked ST6 in the theater, too. Since I bought the disc,
I've watched the movie 3 more times, and I've liked it more with each time.

So go for it; you won't be disappointed.

A warning, though: If you've got a good stereo system, be careful of the
sound levels. The Praxis-explosion wave at the beginning of the film
will blow you through the back wall if you've got it cranked too high.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Temple of Doom Caveat
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:07:23 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

The side break at the end of side two seems in a particular stupid place. It
happens just after Short Round starts smashing on his chains. You can even hear
a bit of the next scene which is in the cave of the thugee cult. No doubt
whoever made this decision didn't want to interrupt the non-stop action which
follows. The three sides are about 41, 36 and 40 minutes each plus half a
minute or so (I don't get seconds on my old player). I can't remember where the
old CLV P&S Temple of Doom ended on side two, since I sold my copy several
weeks ago in anticipation of the LBX one. Can someone refresh my memory as to
the ends of both sides 1 and 2?
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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...)
Subject: Re: Taping over legal copy of movie
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:13:06 GMT

In article <27AUG199210314550@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, kimnach@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH) writes...

} I have a few questions about copying LDs, and I give the answers I
} consider appropriate.  But, what is the concensus of the net? 

} (1) Would I be infringing upon copyrights if I were to record a P&S LD 
} version of a movie over a "legal" copy of the movie?  (Probably not)  

} (2) If I were to copy a LBX version over the "legal" copy?  (Possibly)

} (3) If I were to copy a LBX/Supplemental version over the "legal" copy? 
} (Definately, since I've gotten more than I originally paid for.)

} I ask these because of the improvement I can gain in recording in SuperBeta 
} over the original Beta release.

I pondered a similar question some years back. I taped the film DEATH
WATCH from Bravo many years ago, but the soundtrack on the broadcast was
muddy. After I got a laserdisc player and noticed that a local shop had
a rental disc of that film, I considered writing over my previous tape
with the disc. My reasoning in favor of it was that I had the movie before
the rewrite and I'd have it after, so there would effectively be no
difference. But I finally reasoned that this was not true.

Consider your own reasoning for your answer to #3: you'd be getting more
than you originally paid for. But you're only thinking in terms of quantity
of material. I think the same logic applies to quality of material as well.
If by recording over your pre-recorded Beta copy in SuperBeta results in
a superior copy, then you have "gotten more than you paid for".

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
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From: bennett@adobe.com(Bennett Leeds)
Subject: Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!
Reply-To: bennett@adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:47:46 GMT

Stephen Jonke writes
>... and you'd still be stuck with lots of
> blue "Searching chapter xxx" screens in the middle of the movie -- as if
> side breaks weren't enough already! 


I apologize for the tangential nature of my comment, but this is where a
player with a DTBC really shines. With the DTBC, it "stills" on the
last field while searching for the chapter, and if you turn Film-Mode on
you don't even get the "Searching..." message. Pretty slick.

Also, I think Pioneer may have replaced the blue screen with black. At least on  
the D701 Pause gives you a black screen instead of blue (although I do wish
it would perform a still on CLV disks, you have to use Step forward or
Step backwards for that).
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Is the LBX Excalibur OK?
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:29:16 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <wallich.715309947@pepper> wallich@iti.org (Kenneth Wallich) writes:
>smah@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Steve Mah) writes:
>
>
>>I've noticed that a few people have posted saying that their copies
>>of the new Excalibur LD had some slight defects- are these just
>>isolated incidents or is it widespread?  (i.e. is there someone out
>>there with a disc without any defects?) 
>
>From the 3 people I know who have it, and the talk on the net, it's
>just an "ok" pressing.  I've got a few spots with white specs, as does
>everyone I know.  They aren't in the same places on any of our discs,
>but are always in the same place on a particular disc.  I was also
>unimpressed by both the grainy quality of the print, and the
>relatively boring soundtrack.  The original soundtrack may have just
>been boring (when I say boring, I mean mostly center channel
>information, nothing wrong with the content, just the presentation),
>so it that may not be their fault, but the picture quality is not what
>I hope for with movies I really like.
>
I returned my original copy because it seemed that side 3 was suffering from
laser lock.  My second copy had the same problem, so I took it back and tried
it on the store's player, and it was fine.   Hmmmmmmmm.

So I read an article either here or in rec.video on laser lens cleaning disks
for LD players a couple of days ago.  I have a trusty old Pioneer 909 that
has needed no servicing since the Paleozoic era, and decided to try one out.
I picked up one manufactured by a company called AudioSource, took it home,
checked it out (It's pretty funny to see a brush sticking out of an otherwise
normal looking 8" LD surface), ran it, then queued up my good friend, frame
40502 on side 3 again.  Voila!  No more laser lock, and, in general, the 
picture from other disks seem sharper in detail.

I'm quite pleased with "Excalibur".  Originally released in mono in the 
theaters, the reworking of the music into stereo worked out quite well.  I
think it's a fine transfer, and once again beats the pants (or armor) off my
old P&S edition.  I haven't seen any 'white spots' on any of the sides that
I recall.

Well, it's time to "sleep in the arms of the dragon" once more.  So long
for now.

George Lambert
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Beauty & the Beast Box Set
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:27:35 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

smah@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Steve Mah) writes:

> I just picked up a flyer at the local Wherehouse which was touting the
> upcoming video release of BatB and at the bottom it noted that a "Deluxe
> Collector's Edition" would also be availible-  [...]  It should be noted
> that the flyer only specifies VHS- still no word on LD 8-(   

I'm really tired of Disney's refusal to release their animated features on
LD until well after the demand for the videocassette version has died out.

> OK- so far, we've got upcoming box sets for "Akira", "T2", "The Abyss",
> "Spartacus", and "Alien" and now this; hopefully Fox and  Criterion will
> stick to their usual delayed scheduling and release  their titles a
> little spaced out 8-)  

Well I wouldn't worry too much about wallet-overload yet; we probably won't
see the Abyss set until next spring and the T2 set until well after that.
I hope to find the Criterion Akira in my mailbox before the weekend though. :-)
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Beauty & the Beast Box Set
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:36:17 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Lazlo Nibble writes:
> 
> Posted: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:27:35
> 
> Well I wouldn't worry too much about wallet-overload yet; we probably won't
> see the Abyss set until next spring and the T2 set until well after that.
> I hope to find the Criterion Akira in my mailbox before the weekend though.
> :-)
> 


I thought Akira wasn't going to be out until October. I heard the guy who was
in charge of this at Criterion was involved in some kind of accident.

Speaking of Criterion, rumours are flying that they're going out of business
(again). The fiasco with Prince of Tides apparently has really given them a
punch in the pocketbook.

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From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Subject: Re: New T2 ? (was Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!)
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway
	<SS.92Aug30101839@wpi.WPI.EDU> <jygn4gf@lynx.unm.edu>
Distribution: rec
Date: 31 Aug 92 10:25:06

>>>>> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:

>>> We'll see how _The Abyss_ and _T2_ fare under similar treatment.  (I'm
>>> betting it helps _The Abyss,_ by the way.) 

>> So is there yet another version of T2 coming out? I got the CAV LBX set
>> when it came out. What will different?  

> It's in the planning stages.  The new edition would presumably contain
> added footage (as detailed in the _Making Of T2_ book) and a real
> section of supplements.

i.e. Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor in a dream scene and the old Sarah
Connor. 

- Steinar
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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!
Date: 30 Aug 92 04:17:00 GMT
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine

In article <1992Aug28.202513.2213@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
>Note the "s", I'm not talking about the upcoming Alien S.E. set, but the
>currently available AlienS special edition.
>....

>Oh, the letterboxing does wonders for the film, but I only wish that there
>were a "less then special" edition that was a letterboxed version of the
>film as it was released in the theaters (or include the extra footage
>in the extras section instead of the film itself, as will be done for
>the Alien special edition.)  As it is, (IMHO) there is not yet a good
>letterbox version of Aliens.

Wonders of laser disc: you can edit this out yourself.  You can even
program most players to skip what you don't want, especially if the
chapters are in the right places (I haven't checked the ALIENS set for
this...).  So by giving us a disc with "something extra" we get to
see what the director was thinking about and we can then replay it
in original mode.

-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
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From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Subject: Re: * Starman's LD review: Raiders of the Lost Ark
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:02:04 GMT

In article <23082@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, jaime@tcville.edsg.hac.com (Jaime Villacorte) writes:
> 
> 	I pulled out my VHS copy of Raider's last night and watched it
> simultaneously with the LD version, on a second tv, and you're absolutely
> right - except for Ghostbusters, there's no other LD movie I currently
> own in which the widescreen format made such a dramatic improvement.

I don't own it, but I rented Voyager's letterboxed CAV version of Akira
Kurasawa's, The Hidden Fortress.  I've never seen the movie before, so
obviously I haven't seen a pan & scan version.  However, I can not imagine
how this could be presented cropped at all.  Akira uses every inch of almost
every frame in the movie.  So far that would be the best example I've seen
of why letterboxing is so important, even more so then Ghostbusters (which
I agree with you on.)

Steve
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From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:59:47 GMT

>I just rented this and is it only me, or are there others who really dislike
>all the extra footage?

It's you.

>Oh, the letterboxing does wonders for the film, but I only wish that there
>were a "less then special" edition that was a letterboxed version of the
>film as it was released in the theaters (or include the extra footage
>in the extras section instead of the film itself, as will be done for
>the Alien special edition.)  As it is, (IMHO) there is not yet a good
>letterbox version of Aliens.

Sigh.  If you don't like the restored footage, PROGRAM IT OUT.
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: GHOSTBUSTERS on laserdisc:  Criterion & RCA/Columbia differences?
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:49:39 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
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jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong) writes:

:      You see, the Laser Video file lists the Criterion editions at 98
:      minutes (both the CLV &^ CAV).  The RCA/Columbia editions are all
:      listed at 105 minutes.  What accounts for this disparity? 

The Criterion editions are 105 minutes.  The LVF is mistaken.
RCA/Columbia used the same (Criterion) video master to make their CLV
edition, which is why it is one of the few RCA discs with correct color,
grey scale, aspect ratio and sound.  Keep your bargain Criterion CLV.

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