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From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Subject: ASCII dashes in WP5.1
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:03:11 GMT
Keywords: dash codes

I have an ASCII file, created under UNIX, that contains a bunch of
dashes (-).  I imported it into WordPerfect 5.1 and would like to
search for (and replace) the dashes.  simply searching for a dash does
not work.  WP's code for a dash is "[-]" but the ASCII dash is "-" (no
brackets).  I tried searching fom an mdash (I don't recall the <ctrl>V
code) but that didn't work, either.  Can anyone tell me what to enter
as the search string so I can find these dashes?
-- 
Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
From: bjd7p@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Bert J. Dempsey)
Subject: music desktop publishing
Keywords: ms-windows, music, composition
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:22:56 GMT

	I am looking for music desktop publishing 
	software for an MS-Windows PC.

	That is, I need software that allows 
	me to "draw" notes on a staff, and then to import that 
	image into an environment where text can be placed 
	beneath it.  I am _not_ interested in having the 
	capability to hear the notes played out. (Different problem.)

	I understand that such software exists and I have 
	gotten a pointer to "MusicPrinter Plus" and "The 
	Copyist", but I have not seen anything of this sort 
	myself.

	Anyone have any experience with this type of software 
	and/or comments on important features?

	Thanks.

-- 
Bert Dempsey   (bjd7p@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU)
Computer Science, University of Virginia

  "There are approximately 250 mice per gallon."
		
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
From: guido@blink.att.com (Guido Bertocci)
Subject: Re: Publishing Class Newsletter 
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:21:22 GMT

I am a member of a sailing organization that needs to publish a
newsletter 3-4 per year.  Currently, the newsletter is about 12-15
pages including fairly high quality b&w photos.  Current mode of
operation is that someone composes the newsletter on a Macintosh,
leaves the appropriate spaces for the photos, creates a postscript
file and then takes the disk to a local printer who prints about
300 copies.  The format of the newsletter is a 8 1/2 x 11 stapled
in the center magazine. 

Our cost for printing is typically $900 per issue. Printing represents 70%
of our class budget.  

I am looking for suggestions and recommendation on reducing costs.
Is taking the resulting postscript file to a printer the most cost
effective solution or should we change format slightly, buy a laser printer,
print and staple everything ourselves?  How about scanning in
the photos?

Are there any organizations that are geared towards these kinds of small
newsletters?

We have some funds available for investing in new equipment, particularly
if we can save in the long run.
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop,alt.graphics.pixutils
From: scott@statsci.com (Scott Blachowicz)
Subject: preferred graphics import formats?
Reply-To: scott@statsci.com
Organization: Statistical Sciences, Inc., Seattle, WA USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:32:24 GMT

Hi-
   I'm working on some software that produces graphics output. I'd like to
know what file formats people prefer to deal with when they import graphics
into other packages (such as DTP & word processing packages). I can currently
do EPS (not EPSI-->no preview image), PCL, HPGL and probably others. I've been
thinking that one idea might be to output PBM/PPM and use PBMPlus to convert
to others. What do you think?

Thanx,
--
Scott Blachowicz    Ph: 206/283-8802x240      USPS:  Statistical Sciences, Inc
                                                      1700 Westlake Ave N #500
scott@statsci.com / uunet!statsci!scott                Seattle, WA USA   98109
..or..     Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org
From: Jeff@digtype.airage.com (Jeff Wasilko)
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: Re: Ventura
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 23:42:59 EST
Organization: Univ of Fnord; Roslyn's Cafe Div.
Reply-To: jeff@digtype.airage.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1d8mdoINNarh@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (comp.text.desktop), jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love) writes:
> In article <1992Nov4.123210.19982@netcom.com> ari@netcom.com (Ari Davidow) writes:
> >I'd also like to add my agreement to his comments about the thrend towards
> >for-pay support for the higher end dtp products. Like Jack, when I need
> >to call support it is to report bugs, or to ask about things that don't
> >work. I fiercely resent the demand that I pay for this privilege.
> >
> >At this time, I believe that only Frame and Aldus offer "free" support,
> >both require toll calls, however.
> >
> 
> Well, I can't say that I've heard anything that makes me want to 
> switch to Aldus, but this is the best reason to move to Frame I 
> have encountered. Add one point to their column.

When I used Frame about a year ago, I recall having to sign up for
a support contract. I think it was $300-$500/year....

As far as bang-for-the-buck goes, Quark loses bigtime. It's a toll-call
with (very often) long hold times. Most of the front line tech support
people leave a lot to be desired. When I complain about the lack of
quality people in the trenches, they just tell me that I should sign
our company up for the corportate Service Plus at around $4000 a year.....
At least that gets me a toll-free number....

Jeff

--
Jeff's Oasis at Home.                   Jeff can also be reached at work at:
                                                        jwasilko@airage.com
"A system admin's life is a sorry one.  The only advantage he has over
Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare.  On the other
hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions
of their own innards!"  -Michael O'Brien
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop,bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
From: gordon@tramp.Colorado.EDU (GORDON ALLEN R)
Subject: Re: Importing ps files into WordPerfect
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:33:14 GMT

saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:

>Using DOS WordPerfect 5.1 and a Postscript printer.

>I was given a scrap of PostScript code that draws a picture that I'd like
>to include in a WP document.  Ideally, I'd like to put it in a figure.
>Any suggestions?
>-- 
>Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
>	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton

WP 5.1 has a conversion program that will convert ps files to wpg files.
However, if the ps file has bitmapped graphics in it rather than ps code to
generate the graphics, I think youre out of luck doing it that way.  

Pizazz Plus can also convert graphics to wp 5.1 format.

However, you will generally be better off as regards quality of the output,
if you print it separately.


-- 
Allen Gordon 		         *If the folly of but one of us was changed to*
Research Associate         	 *intelligence, and divided amongst a thousand*
gordon@tramp.colorado.edu   	 *toads, each would be more intelligent than  *
				 *Aristotle				      *
From: jseto@zeus.calpoly.edu (John the Fisherman)
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: Class Project Info needed on DTP
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:50:13 GMT
Organization: Chuck's Bastard Frizzle Fry

Hello out there...

	I am taking a Small Business Management class here at school and
am required to write a business plan.  I decided to choose Desktop
Publishing as a business to work into the class because I used a bunch
of the DTP programs when I was younger.  I am in need of information on
the industry as a whole and possibly sales figures.  If anyone out here
in Internet-land has gone through the process of making DTP into a
business, any information would be much appreciated.  Data given to me
will be held in strict confidence.

Thanks in Advance.
Chuck
-- 
John "Chuck" Seto           | OS/2:  The Integrating Platform!!!! | Now seeking
Network/Computer Technician | ----------------------------------- | career....
Network Administration      | All opinions are my own and do not  | Ask for
Cal Poly - SLO              | reflect those of my employer.       | resume
From: keb3_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Karin E. Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: Re: TIF file format???
Date: 8 Nov 92 06:50:39 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <17250@mindlink.bc.ca> Alistair_Hirst@mindlink.bc.ca (Alistair Hirst) writes:

>I am posting this for a friend, who would like to convert a scanned image
>into the TIF file format.  Would somebody who knows this format please e-mail
>(preferred) or post it here please.

Need some more  information to process this question.  What kind of scanner
did your friend use?  Many software programs allow you to save the scanned
image as TIFF.  If not, what format is it saved in?  Many graphics programs
will read in several different graphics formats and then the image can be
exported back out into TIFF.  There are also several graphics translators 
out there.

So.. to give you specifics we need to know the following:
a) what kind of computer system is your friend using
b) check to see if the scanning software won't save as tiff
b) Will the software s/he's using allow the image to be saved as TIFF?
c) If not, what format does it save in?
 

>Thanks,  Alistair

Glad to help ..
>--

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keb3_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
From: Alistair_Hirst@mindlink.bc.ca (Alistair Hirst)
Subject: TIFF file format?? The sequel
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:35:01 GMT

Ok, I'll try posting this question again, this time with more details.  I
have a friend who has a Microtek 3000 scanner.  He wants to write his own
program to have the scanner dump its data through the RS 232 port, thereby
avoiding the cost of buying a SCSI card for his computer.  Apparently it has
command codes similar to a modem for doing this.  He wants to then convert
this to PC-TIFF format (256 grays at 300dpi) because he has software that he
can use to manipulate the image.  Does anyone know the TIFF file format?

Thanks, Alistair.
P.S.  Thanks for responding to my original post Karin.
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From: thfore@vader.cc.emory.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: How to generate a UPC Bar Code?????
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:46:37 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:33:38 GMT-0500

I need to generate a UPC code for the front page of the newspaper  
where I work. We have an existing one but all our copies are really  
scummy. Is there an easy way to do this? I seem to remember (vaguely)  
an article somewhere on how to do this. Can anyone help?

Please resond via email and I will summarize to the net. Thanks.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard Fore                                thfore@vader.cc.emory.edu
"At Apple, Quality is Job 1.1.1!" - anonymous Apple systems engineer
From: rowland@hpavla.lf.hp.com (Fred Rowland)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:52:22 GMT
Subject: Re: RTF into Frame or Interleaf
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Little Falls Site
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop


Interleaf 5.3 has two import and one export filter for RTF files.  The import
filters are for:

	Version 4 of Word (this is also the best one to use for Mac Word)

	Later versions (which covers Word for Windows and such)

The output filter is all-purpose.  You can even do a round trip (interleaf to
Word to Interleaf) and maintain all the formatting.  See the File Formats and
File conversions book for Interleaf 5.3.


Fred Rowland
Little Falls Site
From: tut@cairo.Eng.Sun.COM (Bill "Bill" Tuthill)
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: RTF into Frame or Interleaf
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:56:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: cairo

Is there a method of getting Microsoft RTF text into Frame
or Interleaf?  I looked at the filters available on-line,
but didn't see anything appropriate.

Thank in advance,
Bill
From: waltervj@coos.dartmouth.edu (Walter V. Jeffries)
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: Free sample issue of The Flash
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:36:29 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


I produce a newsletter called The Flash about laser printing and
related topics.  We've just sent out our fall issue and have a
some extra copies.  If you would like a free sample issue, send
me your postal address.

The Flash is 5 years old, about 70 pages, quarterly, and covers
topics such as laser printer use, maintenance, repair, desktop
publishing, iron-on transfer toners, publishing your own book,
and much more.

-Walter
BlackLightning
Riddle Pond Road
West Topsham, VT 05086
1-800-252-2599
(802) 439-6463 fax
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: crawford@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (James E Crawford)
Subject: NEEDED: E-texts of Shakespeare
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:12:39 GMT

I am looking for electronic texts of Shakespeare's Henry V. I have
the copy from the terminator.cc.umich.edu site, but what I need are
the Quarto (preferably Q1) and the Folio (preferably F3) in either
ancient or modern _spellings_. If anyone has any information on where
these might be available, or commercial offerings thereof, I'd appreciate
your help. Thanks!

Jim Crawford
English Department
Johns Hopkins University

P.S. - An e-text of Holinshed's Henry V would be great too, as long as I'm
putting together my wish list...

Xref: sparky comp.text.tex:13004 comp.text:1379
From: john@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.text
Subject: Optimal pagination
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:18:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

I was intrigued to read a paragraph in Donald Knuth and Michael
Plass's well-known ``Breaking Paragraphs into Lines'' paper[1],
page 1178, that ``experiments are now in progress with a two-pass
version of TeX that does find globally optimum page breaks''.
Presumably this refers to work carried out by Plass for his Ph.D
thesis [2], about which Knuth says ``some closely related problems
can be shown to be NP complete''.

As can be seen in chapter 15 of the TeXbook[3], TeX 2.0 still didn't
incorporate optimum automatic pagination. Is is planned for inclusion
in a forthcoming TeX, or is it too difficult to be worthwhile? What
other typesetting programs out there perform optimal breaking of galleys
into pages? I know only of the work done at Bell Labs by Brian W.
Kernighan and Chris J. Van Wyk on _pm_ and the mpm(7) troff macro
package[4].

John A. Murdie


1.	``Breaking paragraphs into lines'',
	Donald E. Knuth,
	Michael F. Plass,
	Soft.  Pract. and Exp.,
	11, 1119-1184 (1981))

2.	``Optimal pagination techniques for automatic typesetting
	  systems'',
	Michael F. Plass,
	Ph.D thesis, Stanford University,
	June 1981.
	
3.	``Computers and typesetting, Volume A: the TeXbook'',
	Donald E. Knuth,
	Addison Wesley,
	1986.

4.	``The -mpm macro package'',
	Brian W. Kernighan,
	Christopher J. Van Wyk,
	Unix Research System papers, Tenth Edition,
	Saunders College Publishing.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Subject: Where is the MakeIndex directory on Unix Systems??
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:40:22 GMT

Hi,
     I never have managed to install the Doc style file and other LaTeX
styles out of Mainz. There is a nonobvious link between the whole lot of  
them, with a specific order required and specific ritual dance for each,  
with heirarchies of readme's etc. I *shall* try again now that I have my  
own ethernet drop.

Has anyone done this on a NeXT (or other unix platform)??????
If so, 

1 What is the simplest order to install them in?

2. Putting the files in the right directory is crucial. What  directory is  
implied by the following reference (located in one of the many must read  
files in Doc):

* Also move the following files into a directory searched
* by MakeIndex:                                    <=== What is this?????
*
*   gind.ist
*   gglo.ist

--
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics
MIT E52-252C
Cambridge MA 02139
v-mail: (617) 253-0914
e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu  (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: imsgtcar@sinc.oscs.montana.edu (Tim Carlson)
Subject: Re: metafont capicty exceeded !!!
Keywords: n
Organization: Montana State University, Bozeman  MT
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:08:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.041232.3846@coe.montana.edu> imsgtcar@sinc.oscs.montana.edu (Tim Carlson) writes:
>Help....
>I'm trying to build some fonts on a machine running 386BSD.  I built
>METAFONT in the normal fashion, but when I try to build the pk font
>cmcsc10 I get the following error..
>---------------------------------------------
>This is METAFONT, C Version 2.7

Anyway, as I said metafont choked, and the problem was that I was using
a "small" metafont.  The real problem was then to build a "big"
metafont. If you are going to do this on a machine running 386BSD you
must compile mf1.c by hand not using -O (or you will get a signal 6
error from cc1 and it will dump). Things run just fine now...

Tim
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From: nitao@s13.s13.es.llnl.gov (nitao)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: is there fig for the ibm pc?
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:53:19 GMT
Distribution: comp.text.tex
Organization: unknown

I'm posting for a friend who is looking for a version of
fig that runs on the ibm pc so that he can generate pictex
grahics for his tex documents. Does such an animal exist?
I didn't find anything in the FAQ.

                        John Nitao
                        nitao@s13.es.llnl.gov
From: metcalf@CATFISH.LCS.MIT.EDU (Chris Metcalf)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Two VF/PostScript questions after upgrading from dvi2ps to dvips
Followup-To: poster
Date: 13 Nov 1992 19:05:25 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: catfish.ai.mit.edu

I am in the throes of upgrading our TeX environment from TeX 3.0
with dvi2ps 2.49 to the current TeX 3.141 and dvips 5.493.  However,
there are still some bugs in the system having to do with PostScript.

(1) xdvi doesn't do a very good job displaying dvips PostScript fonts.
    With dvi2ps's psfonts.sty, xdvi handles ligatures, em dashes, and
    so forth correctly (after converting to CMR).  With dvips's, it
    goes through the VF files, and then loses out on all the non-ASCII
    characters when it displays them.  Is there some way around this?
    It looks a bit better when you use the raw PostScript fonts,
    but this is obviously the wrong thing to do when you convert to
    PostScript for real.  Somehow the VF stuff seems to have caused a
    loss of functionality in the previewer, which is too bad.

    (I added a hack to xdvi so it checks the psfonts.map file before
    calling MakeTeXPK, so at least I have fixed the problem where xdvi
    calls MakeTeXPK a dozen times for a single page of PostScript TeX.)

(2) Our old dvi2ps package relied on fonts named t-rom, h-bol, etc.
    While these obviously are now obsolete, it would be nice to 
    support old DVI files.  Is there some relatively straightforward
    way to do this, presumably by creating an appropriate VF file?
    Copying ptmr.vf to t-rom.vf doesn't do the job, since the mapping
    has clearly changed with the new PostScript VF fonts.

Most of this seems to be VF problems, and I'm at a bit of a loss.
I'd very much appreciate any pointers; email them to me and I'll post
a summary if anyone wants.

-- 
			Chris Metcalf, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
			metcalf@cag.lcs.mit.edu   //   +1 (617) 253-7766
From: fsbrn@brl.mil (Fred S. Brundick)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: help with caption ?
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:11:22 GMT
Reply-To: fsbrn@brl.mil
Organization: Army Research Laboratory

In article <1992Nov5.210204.1@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu>, mtaw621@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu writes:
|> I do not know how to do the following, within a \caption.
|>  (i) How to have more than one line of text, appropriately aligned
|>      to the right the word "Figure 1".

Here is what I use.  If a caption does not fit on one line, it calculates
the width of "Figure n.---" and uses it as the hanging indent.

\long\def\@makecaption#1#2{
\vskip 10pt
\setbox\@tempboxa\hbox{#1.---{\em #2}}
\ifdim \wd\@tempboxa > \hsize%		IF longer than one line
  \setbox\@tempboxa\hbox{#1.---}%	THEN set as ordinary paragraph
 \@tempdima=\hsize%				 with hanging indent
  \advance\@tempdima by -\wd\@tempboxa
  #1.---\parbox[t]{\@tempdima}%
{\if@raggedright\rightskip\@flushglue\fi\em #2}\par
\else%					ELSE center.
  \hbox to\hsize{\hfil\box\@tempboxa\hfil}
\fi}

If you change the style in line 3 make sure to do the same thing in line 5.

                                        dsw, fferd
                                        Fred S. Brundick
                                        USARL, APG, MD.
                                        <fsbrn@brl.mil>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: atipatr@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Atipat Rojnuckarin)
Subject: Line Numbering in LaTeX.
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:35:05 GMT

A few weeks ago, someone was posting question about line-numbering a 
document in LaTeX. 
If you have the answer, could you have mail the stuff for me please ..?

My email is atipatr@phoenix.princeton.edu

Since I don't know much about TeX, macro package or .sty files are
preferred.
By the way, I have read the FAQ and the TeX-index things.


Thanks in advance

dak
From: Martin Jourdan <Martin.Jourdan@inria.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: recoverable font loading
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 18:37:51 +0100
Organization: INRIA, BP 105, F-78153 Le Chesnay Cedex, France tel.
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Dear TeX gurus,

I'm looking for a way to load a font (the same as using \font) such
that:

1. no error occurs if the TFM file cannot be found;

2. there is a way to test whether the loading actually succeeded or
not (e.g., by using \ifx on the control sequence that's supposed to
hold the loaded font).

I took a look at Mittelbach's and Schoepf's New Font Selection Scheme
and found such a ``recoverable font load'' at work in the definition
of \extract@font, but unfortunately my proficiency with TeX is not
sufficient to really understand how it works and how to adapt it to my
needs.  I hope that one of you is able to help me.

Many thanks in advance.  Best regards,

					Martin Jourdan