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From: roy@netcom.com (Roy Carlson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
Subject: PARALLEL Processing Connection meeting notice
Keywords: meeting
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:22:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.94pjghk.roy
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


PARALLEL Processing Connection meeting notice --

Technology transfer -- always an important issue for the national 
laboratories is especially significant in this day of defense cutbacks and 
economic recession. Senior staff members of Lawrence Livermore have 
agreed to show us some of the lab projects which are presently available for 
licensing into the private sector. Tony Bernhardt will talk about laser 
pantography for multi-chip module packaging; Tony DeGroot will discuss 
his SPRINT systolic array processor and the application software that 
Livermore has ported to it. These and other technologies are available for 
license and cooperative research with the Livermore Labs. Given the 
economic pressures, we should see some excellent entrepreneurial 
opportunities.

The meeting will take place at 7:30PM on April 13th at the NeXT 
Corporation at 123 Saginaw Drive in Redwood City. This is one mile east  
of the Seaport Boulevard exit off 101, left onto Chesapeake Drive and then 
the second left onto Saginaw.

Please be prompt; as usual, we expect a large attendance; don't be left out or 
left standing. There is a $8 fee for non-members and members are admitted 
free.

-- 
B. Mitchell Loebel                                      parallel@netcom.COM
PARALLEL Processing Connection                                 408-732-9869
From: vu0350@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (allen h. lutins)
Subject: Re: Cray 1?
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:25:20 GMT

In article <6683@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> liebgold@turing.seas.ucla.edu (Dan M. Liebgold) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.153046.11372@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman) writes:
>>In article <s103nINNs5u@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
>>>
>>>...Weighs around 500-600 pounds, 5" high, 3" wide, 2"
                                     ^        ^        ^    
>>>deep.
>>
>>At 600 pounds with those dimensions, it would have a density of 20 pounds
>>per cubic inch. This seems a little on the high side.  :-)
                                                         ^^^
>
>don't you mean 20 pounds per cubic FOOT? Not quite as impressive, but still
>dense.
>

...you musta missed:

	1) original poster mistakenly used " {inches} when ' {feet}
           were certainly intended...

	2) follow-up poster was taking those figures at face value
           *sarcastically*...

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From: aqn@tivoli.UUCP (Andy Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Computers as heat sources (was Re: Cray 1?)
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:08:18 GMT
Reply-To: aqn@tivoli.UUCP (Andy Nguyen)
Followup-To: comp.sys.super
Organization: Tivoli Systems Inc., Austin, TX


  One of my T.A.s (Alan Weiss) at NYU (this was in 1984 or so) told of
  "the old days" when he had use of a computer with a bank of six tape
  drives for memory(!).  When he got cold, he would write a program to
  access weird memory locations, causing the tapedrives to whip back and
  forth, warming things up.  When the machine is finally removed, the
  temperature of the rrom dropped 10 degrees!
-- 
Andy Nguyen / Team Paranoid
(212) 267-7722				...!uunet!tivoli!aqn  OR  aqn@tivoli.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super,alt.folklore.computers
From: panisset@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Jean-Francois Panisset)
Subject: Re: Cray 1?
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 13:04:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.153046.11372@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman) writes:
>In article <s103nINNs5u@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
>>
>>The thing is a monster.  Weighs around 500-600 pounds, 5" high, 3" wide, 2"
>>deep.
>
>At 600 pounds with those dimensions, it would have a density of 20 pounds
>per cubic inch. This seems a little on the high side.  :-)

Which of course brings back that classic scene in "This is Spinal Tap" where
they decide to get an 18 feet high replica of Stonehenge built as a stage
prop. But the back-of-a-napkin sketch provided to the artist
lists the height as 18 inches. During the show, Stonehenge gets knocked
over by the dancing midgets... but I digress...

JF

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.super,alt.folklore.computers
From: cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams)
Subject: Re: Cray 1?
Originator: cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:41:06 GMT

In <s103nINNs5u@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
>I finally got the chance to buy a Plexus P60+.  This machine, for the
>majority of you who have never heard of it, is a 68020 machine running
>SYSV.  It has 24 serial ports, a full-size magtape drive, and two fujitsu
>super eagle 545 MB hard drives.
>
>It is also very heavy.

So are two PDP 11/34a's, with two RL05s and an RK07, plus an RX211,
various cabinet hardware, media, etc.

>Have I mentioned yet that I live on the second floor of a non-elevator
>apartment house?  Didn't think so. . .

Hey, me too!

>After having taken the tape drive out (about 100 pounds), it took me and
>four of my friends approximately 30 minutes to get it up the stairs.  There
>were 17 of them. . . BTW, the stairs have since broken, and are now being
>fixed.
>
>The thing is a monster.  Weighs around 500-600 pounds, 5" high, 3" wide, 2"
>deep.  It generates a fair amount of heat, especially since it's in my
>bedroom, which is very small. . . It's basically a combination computer /
>jet engine / heater...

Yeah, all total, I think my computer would weigh something like that, 
probably on the heavy side of 600. Three 5'x2'x3' cabinets (I DO hope
you meant ' and not " on your measurements). Unfortunately, me and
my dad couldn't get it up the stairs, so it's sitting in his garage
in Fort Worth.

>But considering the fact that I paid $801 for it. . .

Heh. Mine was _FREE_. :-)

>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Roy S. Rapoport             Open Computing Facility
>rsr@ocf.berkeley.edu        [21~Ot[20~
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-cgw-

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: PLEASE IGNORE MY LAST POST
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:58:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.044927.24445@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
>It seems I was refering to a different product that I had heard about. Not the
>one in question.


Not only that, the chip to which you referred was done by Fujitsu, not Hitachi.
And it is not part of any commercially available product, nor will it be soon,
if ever.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: tjebelea@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Tudor Jebelean)
Subject: systolic hardware?
Reply-To: tjebelea@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Tudor Jebelean)
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:48:28 GMT


My institute (RISC - Linz) is planning to buy some hardware based
on the cellular automata and/or systolic approach.

Can somebody help me with some hints on how to find information
about such devices available on the market?

Are there people which have already used such devices and who would
help me with a [short] description of their experience?

Thank you very much,

Tudor Jebelean            Phone: Austria-7236-3231-20
RISC - Linz,              Fax:   Austria-7236-3338-30
A-4040 Linz, Austria      E-mail: tjebelea@risc.uni-linz.ac.at
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
Subject: PLEASE IGNORE MY LAST POST
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:49:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr8.044927.24445
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

It seems I was refering to a different product that I had heard about. Not the
one in question.

Jason W. Solinsky
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From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Cray 1?
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:11:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Cat Factory

In article <s103nINNs5u@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:

}The thing is a monster.  Weighs around 500-600 pounds, 5" high, 3" wide, 2"
}deep.  ...

What's it made of, solid plutonium?  Did you hire a dwarf to dance
in front of it and make it look bigger? (-: (-:

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@soldev.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405 {rutgers|pyramid|philabs|psivax}!ttidca!hollombe
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 09:53:37 MST
From: <ICRJP@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
Subject: New hitachi machine and claims

    I saw a small blip in the business news about Hitachi annoucing a new
machine.  Seems like they claimed a max of 35 gflops.  Anyone have some
specifics?

                                         rpalmer@dz.inre.asu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: clund@chpc.org (Craig Lund)
Subject: Re: PLEASE IGNORE MY LAST POST (Fujitsu VPU)
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:29:39 GMT

I missed the mail message that started this message chain.  However, looking
at the reply, I guess that someone referred to Fujitsu's VPU, which was
discussed in a paper at ISSCC in February.

If so, the reply is wrong.  Fujitsu is quietly selling the chip.  Fujitsu
will announce the first design wins at Supercomputing '92 Japan next week.

The VPU is a 289 MFLOP single chip vector unit implemented in .5 micron
CMOS.  The chip draws 5 watts at 3.3 volts.  It is a subset of the
VP2000.  The VPU sits next to any microprocessor.  So far, most of the
design wins sit next to SPARC's.

I know all this because I am a consultant that Fujitsu hired to provide
English language technical support (most of the design wins are in the 
U. S. and the U. K.).  I am also coordinating the various software
vendors.

I am just about to go to Japan to prepare for the trade show.  However,
if anyone wants to know more about the VPU, please send me mail.

Craig Lund
clund@chpc.org (another client)
NH Office +1 603 868 2300
NH Fax +1 603 868 5300
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: CONNOLLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU (John Connolly)
Subject: Matsushita machine
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:25:16 GMT
X-Bytes: 

Does anyone know about a parallel supercomputer called the Adenart,
which is made by Matsushita and is advertised to have a peak speed
of 20 Gigaflops?

Also, is there a bulletin board for massively parallel machines?

-j
From: pld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Paul Dineen)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:12:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Computers as heat sources (was Re: Cray 1?)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super

> But considering the fact that I paid $801 for it. . .

  What's the $1 for?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
From: oneill@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill)
Subject: Shared memory/ucb universe on Sequent
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:36:34 GMT

I have a program which uses shared memory which I would like to get running
on a Sequent Balance running 3.0.14. The SVAE has shared memory, but doesn't
have a lot of BSD routines which are also needed, which can be found in the
ucb universe. I've tried linking to both C libraries, but the executable
spews out a few lines of "Bad option on line 15" and then toms of garbage.
Is there any way to get both to work?

=======================================================================
Brian O'Neill - Systems Manager, Computer Science 	 (508) 934-3645
University of Massachusetts at Lowell
Internet: oneill@ulowell.edu		Moderator, comp.binaries.ibm.pc
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From: pete@wvus.org (Pete Gregory - UNIX SA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent,comp.sys.unisys,alt.unisys
Subject: Re: 9-Track Tape Questions - Sequent/Unisys U6000-75
Keywords: TAPE SEQUENT UNISYS - AACK!
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:20:21 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: World Vision U.S.

In article <1992Apr14.140627.5371@eds1.eds.com> jdm1@eds1.eds.com (Jonathan D McCown) writes:
>
>We utilize a Unisys U6000-75 (a less sinister looking OEM of Sequent Symmetry)
>[...]
>BUT the tape drive continues to crank along reading the tape, and no 
>combination of button pushing and feverish prayer can make it return
>more than "device busy"  UNTIL I REBOOT THE MACHINE.
>
>We are running the Unisys flavor of PTX 1.2  (4 processors, lots of memory
>etc) and the tape drive is a Unisys/Kennedy which is attached to the mbus.
>Tech support (Unisys) recommends fuser/kill to wipe out processes using the
>device.. BUT by the time this hits there are no processes using the device.
>(close the barn door... the horses have run off!)
>
>Is there a general rule/observance on mbus drivers losing their minds?

You have my sympathy... on our PTX 1.1 system, it is appallingly easy to
hang the MBUS driver, and for us, only a reboot will fix.  Unisys has been
NO help.  Be thankful you have 1.2 - fuser doesn't work in 1.1.
-- 

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From: map@sequent.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: Re: ipcs instruction
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:34:27 GMT
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr13.021719.16546@Silence.pi.nctu.edu.tw> ghhwang@csunix.csie.nctu.edu.tw (Hwang Gwan-Hwan) writes:
>There is a command "ipcs" in system V unix system. Does sequent unix os
>have any similar command?
>
>
>
>
>

/bin/ipcs is standard in ptx.

Mike
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From: schansen@amc.com (Scott Hansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: Dynix V3.1.1 and shared memory.
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:04:21 GMT
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA

We are running Dynix V3.1.1 on a S2000/400.  I'm looking for an
accurate way to determine the actual virtual memory used by a
process.

Oracle is the main application on this machine and it uses shared
memory extensively.  Many of the bsd memory utils seem to have a
problem determining the actual vm usage of any processes using
shared memory.

I want to know what processes are using what memory both resident
and virtual.

-Scott
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From: kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron)
Subject: Re: ipcs instruction
    <1992Apr13.173427.5023@sequent.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:13:31 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

map@sequent.com writes:

>>There is a command "ipcs" in system V unix system. Does sequent unix os
>>have any similar command?

>/bin/ipcs is standard in ptx.

It's also in dynix (3.1.2 at least) in /bin (SysV universe) or
/usr/att/bin (BSD universe).
-- 
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University of Kentucky                                  +1 606 257 2975
Department of Mathematics
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From: bourne-linda@CS.YALE.EDU (Linda Bourne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: Alan J. Perlis Symposium
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:13:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: RA.199204082013.AA11094
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway

ALAN J. PERLIS SYMPOSIUM:  Parallel Computers of the Future

Sponsored by the Department of Computer Science, Yale University

April 23, 1992

Sheffield-Sterling-Strathcona Hall
Room 114
Corner Grove and Prospect Streets
New Haven, Connecticut


Morning Session (9:30-11:00)

	Opening Remarks
		Drew McDermott
		Chairman, Yale CS

	"Dataflow Architectures:  From Monsoon to *T"
		Arvind
		Massachusetts Institute of Technology


Afternoon Session (1:30-4:30)

	"PRAMs:  Theory, Physical Design, and Application"
		Wolfgang Paul
		University of Saarbrucken

	"Will Parallel Architectures Converge?"
		H.T. Kung
		Carnegie-Mellon University



Following the last talk a public reception will be held at the
Department of Computer Science, Arthur K. Watson Hall.

All talks are free and open to the public.

For further information please call (203) 432-1246.
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From: ghhwang@csunix.csie.nctu.edu.tw (Hwang Gwan-Hwan)
Subject: ipcs instruction
Organization: NCTU
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:17:19 GMT

There is a command "ipcs" in system V unix system. Does sequent unix os
have any similar command?
From: S.Marshall@sequent.cc.hull.ac.uk (Simon Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: SUMMARY: how to build temacs (epoch-4.0) on a Sequent.
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:46:15 GMT


	A couple of days ago I posted in exasperation a problem I've come
    across while building epoch-4.0 on a Sequent Symmetry S81 running DYNIX
    V3.0.17.10.  What was happening was that temacs was dying, but in two
    different ways, depending on whether I compiled with gcc-2.1
    optimisation on or not:

>./temacs -batch -l ../epoch-lisp/inc-vers
>Please set the environment variable TERM; see tset(1).
>Make[1]: *** [epoch] Error 1
>
>	even though TERM was set.  So I ran under gdb-4.4 and found that
>    SIGTRAP was being generated, apparently straight away:

	Jay Vosburgh (thanks yet again) explained that it was due to an
    improper definition of CRT0_DUMMIES.  I found that when compiling
    without optimisation, it seems gcc-2.1 requires two dummies.  With
    optimisation, one dummy is enough.

	There was one other problem; somehow NULL was being passed to
    memcpy().  Looking at the breakdown, I found that the doprnt() being
    used was not the one supplied with epoch-4.0, but the Sequent one!
    Aarrrgh!  I had had to link with /usr/att/lib/libc.a when linking temacs
    together, to pick up memcpy() et al., and the Sequent's doprnt() was
    hiding in there.  So I extracted the relevant bits temacs needed & built
    my own library.  Hey presto!  All was well.

	So there are a number of points.  "How to build temacs on a
    Sequent".  They will no doubt be applicable to other hosts too.

1.  If you build with gcc-2.*, don't forget to link with the gcc library
    (libgcc.a).  You might need to specify where it is, too.

2.  If temacs complains about TERM not being defined (for example, if you
    build with gcc without optimisation), you may need to define
    CRT0_DUMMIES differently in config.h:

#undef CRT0_DUMMIES
#define CRT0_DUMMIES dummy1, dummy2,

    worked for me.  If you're using the newer ATS cc, you need three dummies
    (end with a comma).

3.  If you get complaints about memcpy() et al. not being around, you need
    to link them in (on our Sequent, /usr/att/lib/libc.a).  Beware, on our
    Sequent this also linked in a completely different version of doprnt()
    than which comes with epoch.  My hack was to extract (using ar) the
    relevant files required from the library, and build my own library with
    them.  Then link in this library when building temacs.

	Then have fun.  Thanks again to those who helped.

	Simon. 
_______________________________________________________________________________
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From: rick@mathcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner)
Subject: DNS on an S27
Organization: San Jose State University - Math/CS Dept.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:07:11 GMT

We are running two Sequent machines - an S27 (Dynix 3.0.17.9) and a
B21000 (Dynix 3.0.4) [this box is on long-term loan to us].  The S27
is our main mail server and print server for historical reasons.  The
B21000 is used primarily for instructional purposes.  

Our campus recently installed a Sun 4/490 server which also provides
us with a name-server.  We would like to like to use this Sun for
name resolution and add SMTP transport for our mail.  Now comes the
tricky part.  We see this as a 2 part problem - get the name resolver
working and then tackle sendmail.  We got the name services working
on all of our Sun's,  went to the S27, proceeded to add the proper
files (defaultrouter and resolv.conf) and everything worked fine - except
that the B21000 no longer 'sees' the S27.  Nada.  We cannot telnet
between the two boxes, we cannot 'ping' from one to the other (they are
in the same room and are adjacent nodes on our ethernet).  Worse,
the B21000 can no longer spool print jobs over to the printers on the
S27.  Ouch!  

Needless to say, we backed off for now.  Anyone have any suggestions on
how we can fix this quandry?   We need for the two boxes to communicate,
but we really, really, really want to add SMTP transport.  I would
very much appreciate any suggestions.

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From: aranake@cse.uta.edu (Sandeep Suresh Aranake)
Subject: Benchmarks
Keywords: ???
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Univ. of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:51:02 GMT

I would be thankful if you could let me know the source/availability
of the benchmark results available for sequent symmetry series machines.
I have some results computed by me and would like to verify them.

Also, I would appreciate if you could send me (let me know the sources)
technical information on the system architecture of symmetry machine.

Please E-mail to me any information you have on my above address.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Sandeep