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From: landers@comm.mgmt.purdue.edu (Chris Landers)
Subject: Recommendations wanted on Genealogy Shareware, please.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:23:56 GMT
Organization: Krannert Graduate School of Management, Purdue University


I've got a pile of paper on my mother's family, and the recent passing of my 
grandfather has inspired me to get this stuff all down in a logical manner 
before my grandmother's knowledge follows him.

So can someone recommend DOS shareware for family trees, etc.
There is an array of stuff on SIMTEL, and I'd just like to know
what folks here think.

I've pulled down Brothers Keeper 5.1c.  Looks like it does the job, but
it's features didn't jump out and excite me (I also don't like the 3.5Mb it 
seems to take up before data).

Are folks using this, or is there something better.  I might also 
consider low cost commercial s/w as well.

Thanks for your help, please follow up to poster to keep this FAQ traffic 
out of news!


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From: fred@cc.ysu.edu (Fred Ullom)
Subject: Re: Clan MacEwan
Organization: Youngstown State University
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:26:40 GMT

Christopher D. Stephens (cdstephe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:
: I downloaded a list of Highland Clan genealogists in the US from the
: genealogy ftp, but it did not include Clan MacEwan. Does Clan MacEwan
: have an organization in the US?

Opening my top desk drawer and pulling out my current copy of the Highlander
Magazine, turning to the Clan Society listing, I read:
===================
Clan MacEwen:

The Ewen Society, Scotland welcomes world memberships: Charles Ewen,
Vice Chairman, 3 Havelock Pk. E. Kilbride, Glasgow, G75 8QL, Scotland
===================

It doesn't look as if they have a specific US organization but you could
write to the above address in Scotland for more information.
-Fred
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From: abbies@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Abbie Angharad Hughes)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: duc de Berry's UK marriage; fate of wife ?
Date: 29 Jan 1993 05:20:14 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
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Keywords: duc-de-Berry UK marriage wife

Tom Lincoln: Thanks for trying, I think your retrieved *Account of an Apparitio* is a beautiful paradigm for 99.9% of genealogical reasearch activity! 
  
Abbie

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Reply-To:     Suzanne Badenhop <AHCSBB@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
From:         Suzanne Badenhop <AHCSBB@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Susan Plass/Kauffman Book

A cousin and I recently published a book on Roswell W. Derby
of Cherry Valley, New York.  In total, we probably donated
25 - 30 copies to various libraries.  I would suggest that you
include small libraries where the family members now live or
where there were clusters of them in past generations.  In
addition, the large genealogy collections such as Salt Lake City,
Utah and Allen County Public Library in Ft. Wayne, Indiana.

We donated a book to the New England Genealogical Society as
Roswell's ancestors came from Massachusetts and Vermont.  I even
donated one to the library in my hometown of 2400 people in
northwestern Ohio.  A month later I went to that library to do
some research only to find the book missing.  The librarian informed
me that someone had checked it out even though it was a reference
book.  Other cousins donated books to their local libraries.

In my home town library I found a book on the Batdorf Family.  I was
glancing through it and found information on Johann Adam Walborn of
the Tulpehocken in Berks County, PA.  Johann Adam is an ancestor of
mine, but I had not connected him to the Batdorf family and certainly
never expected to find information on him in that library.  Further
reading provided a lot of additional information for my own research.
From: KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: The State of Franklin
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:58:46 GMT
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Does anyone know if the pseudo-state of Franklin ever kept state records,
such as land transactions, birth/marriage/death records, etc., like other
states?  Where would their archives be today, in Sevierville or in Nashville?

Rick Kitchen
kitchenrn@ssd0.laafb.af.mil
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From: kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much)
Subject: Re: ROSE Query
Organization: Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:50:03 GMT

In article <4267@randvax.rand.org> lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln) writes:
>In article <9301271324.AA16716@slc4.INS.CWRU.Edu> Dick Rose <am681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu> writes:
>>Seeking information on:
>>
>>ROSE, Nathan (my gggrandfather)
>>b. circa 1786
>>d. 25-Jun-1849 in Town of Onondaga, Onondaga County, NY,
>>m. Magdalen:
>>b. circa 1786 in New Jersey or Mass.
>>d. 12-May-1878 in Onondaga County, NY
>
>Melvyl suggests that there are two single name journals/associations
>
>13.
>Author: Rose, Christine.
>Title:  Descendants of Robert Rose of Wethersfield and Branford,
>Connecticut, who came on the ship "Francis" in 1634 from
>Ipswich, England / by Christine Rose. San Jose, Calif. (1474
>Montelegre Drive, San Jose 95120) : Privately published by
>Rose Family Association, 1983.
>Description:    xvi, 512 p. : ill. ; 25 cm.
>
>Notes:  Includes index.
>Bibliography: p. [431]-436.
>
>Subjects:       Rose family.
>
>Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS71.R786 1983
>
>14.
>Author: Rose, Christine.
>Title:  Rev. Charles Rose of Scotland & Westmoreland County, Virginia :
>the first four generations in America / compiled by Christine
>Rose ; editors, Seymour T. and Christine Rose. San Jose,
>Calif. : Priv. print. by Rose family bulletin, 1976.
>Description:    i, 34 p. ; 28 cm.
>
>Notes:  Cover title: Rev. Charles Rose family of Scotland and Virginia.
>Includes index.
>Bibliography: p. 31.
>
>Subjects:       Rose family.
>United States -- Genealogy.
>Virginia -- Genealogy.
>
>Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS71.R796 1976b


Mary TARRANT, daughter of Leonard TARRANT (b. ca. 1682, d. 1719 in
Essex Co., VA) and Mary BROOKE (d. 1749, Essex Co., VA), was married
to Rev. Robert ROSE on February 23, 1733. She died February 28, 1739.
I have a little more information on the TARRANTs, but no more on the
ROSEs.  You might be able to find references to colonial clergy,
though; they could have lived in MD as well as VA.  I vaguely remember
Robert ROSE in _Alumni Oxoniensis_ (list of graduates of Oxford
U)--but it could have been Cambridge.
------------------------------------
Seeking Acton, Bailey, Ball, Barber, Beale, Beauman (Beaumier),
Billington, Bobo, Brake, Brittain (Britton), Calvert, Colston, Corgan
(Corrigan), Downman, Eastep (Estep, Estop, Eastop), Everenden
(Everden, Evenden, Everndon), Ferree (Ferie, Fierre, Fire, Fiere),
Griffin, Harm, Harwar, Hewitt, Kennerly, Leatherwood, Lee, Lefevre,
McCarty, McQuead, Much, Murfin, Musgrove, Pilgrim (Pilgram), Pope,
Sauerwein, Sontag, Speer, Tarrant, Taverner, Terry, Travers,
Underwood, Warembour (de Warenbur), Wegman, Woodruff, Yerby.




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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:19:42 CST
Reply-To:     Julia Webb <gflips@VATO.SPS.MOT.COM>
From:         Julia Webb <gflips@VATO.SPS.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Looking for info JONES family - Clark co. MO.
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Looking for any info on the Jones family. G-grandmother Mabel Jones
was born Oct. 1892, unsure of place of birth. She resided in Clark
county  MO. sometime around 1901. When 14 yrs. of age she married
my g-grandfather Salyer. She then moved to Calif. and resided in
Santa Cruz - where she died in Oct 1977.



Thank you     Julia Webb



Families- Mc Ardle, Morgan, Salyer, Fridley, Jones, Lawrence,Carey or Cary,
          Gann
From: jhb@dcs.ed.ac.uk (John Butler)
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Subject: BEVAN,TUCKER,GIBBS,BEVIS,BUTLER,MANSBRIDGE + S.Wales Wills
Date: 24 Jan 93 12:42:51 GMT
Reply-To: jhb@dcs.ed.ac.uk (John Butler)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University

BEVAN of South Wales, UK: I have a considerable machine-readable archive
available for the asking. This archive also takes in TUCKER and GIBBS.

BEVIS of Andover, UK + BUTLER of Banbury, Oxford + MANSBRIDGE of UK and India:
Is there anyone out there?

I also have an extensive machine-readable transcript here of Carmarthen and
area wills (South Wales) for all families from about 1500 onwards.  

Wanted: names of ftp sites holding transcripts of UK Census..!
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From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: President Andrew Johnson's Genealogy Question
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:43:59 GMT
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In article <DAOFFER.93Jan27101916@dewey.cc.utexas.edu> daoffer@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Debora Offer) writes:
>In article <9301271519.AA00389@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
>              Co. 27-Jan-1993 0812" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM> writes:

>The only President Johnson I can think of was
>Lyndon Baines Johnson.

>\__ __/          Debora    daoffer@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu           \__ __/
>   T any opinions expressed are mine, not necessarily my employers T

Your employers will know that Lincoln was shot, and that vice president
Johnson became president of the United States...  {:-(      {:-)

 p q
 \|/
 /|\   TOM LINCOLN  lincoln@rand.org
 \|/  "Life is short, art is long, opportunity fugitive,
 /|\   experimenting dangerous, reasoning difficult."

... and memory fleeting....
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From:         mihodges@UALR.EDU
Subject:      St. Mary & St. Joseph College
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Are the records fro St Mary and St. Joseph College(s) in Bardstown, Kentudky
extant?  What archive has them?  I have assumed this college is no longer
in operatin, but that may be a false assumption.  Thanks!

Mary Frances Hodges
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Reply-To:     David Jones <DJONES@HPB.HWC.CA>
From:         David Jones <DJONES@HPB.HWC.CA>
Subject: Re: A couple of tips for newcomers
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Hi Margaret. Thanks for the tipz. Researching family SPINNEY, and I went to
 schgool with a John Sharon (King's College, halifax) who is now resident of
 Ottawa,
about 10 blocks from the location of my keyboard.
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Reply-To:     "A.J. Wright" <MEDS002@UABDPO.BITNET>
From:         "A.J. Wright" <MEDS002@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      LDS Research Guide: AL

Anybody already have an e-copy of the LDS Research Guide for Alabama they'd
be willing to zap to me? Florida and Georgia might be nice, too...many thanks..

A.J. Wright/meds002@uabdpo
            meds002@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu
From: fdavison@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU.SFSU.EDU (Frieda Davison)
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Subject: Baldwin College
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:43:51 GMT
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In response to Jill Lilly's request for info. on Baldwin College:

The only Baldwin College that I could find in Ohio is one BALDWIN-
WALLACE COLLEGE, founded in 1845 in Berea Ohio 44017.  It is listed
as "independent Methodist Comprehensive Coeducational Institution".
It grants undergraduate and master's degrees in a variety of subject
areas.  The guide does not give a street address for it.

Suggest that you call the library at 216-826-2455.  Head of Public
Services is Richard Densmore.

Frieda Davison
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Reply-To:     Susan Plass <Susan.Plass@STANFORD.BITNET>
From:         Susan Plass <Susan.Plass@STANFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Looking for place(s) to donate new KAUFFMANN genealogy book
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A cousin who has been researching the descendants of Martin
KAUFFMANN (born about 1590) is about to publish her work.  I'm
planning to buy copies for myself, of course, but I'm also
interesting in buying a few copies to donate to appropriate
genealogy collections.  The two that come to mind easily are
the Newberry Library and the Salt Lake FHL (unfortunately I
don't expect her to grant permission to film the book, though).
Are there one or two additional obvious candidates which might
welcome her book?

Thanks for your suggestions!

Susan Plass
susan.plass@forsythe.stanford.edu or gg.slp@stanford.bitnet
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:33:18 -0500
Reply-To:     "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU>
From:         "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Emigration Routes
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993, Alan Jeddeloh wrote:

> In article <23JAN93.20050066.0076.MUSIC@NEMOMUS> "Robert J. Behnen"
> <AD38%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU> writes:
> >Fellow Rooters:
> >
> >2)  I know where I can look to check Hamburg Passenger Lists.
> >However, does Bremen have a list of passengers through their
> >port?  Where can I go to check them if so?
>
> There is a person on PRODIGY who will check Bremen passenger lists.  I don't
> have his name or sign-on with me.
>
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Am also having trouble searching German emigration. Please forward
resource information to me also, if possible.  Thanks

Chris Darby
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:26:16 -0500
Reply-To:     David Jones <DJONES@HPB.HWC.CA>
From:         David Jones <DJONES@HPB.HWC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Gaelic-L mail lists
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As a member of Welsh-L and Roots-L I thank you for the kind words.
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Reply-To:     "C. Norman" <NORMAN@MACALSTR.EDU>
From:         "C. Norman" <NORMAN@MACALSTR.EDU>
Subject:      State of Franklin
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

I can't speak to the Civil War possibilities of a state of Franklin, but on
June 2, 1784, the North Carolina assembly ceded its western territories to the
United States.  On November 20 this motion was repealed because the so-called
state of Franklin was seeking independent status.  The people involved with the
creation of a state of Franklin actually negotiated with the Cherokees and
signed a treaty with them granting them space.  That treaty was aborted in
November of 1785.

Tennessee was admitted to the Union in 1796, so the issue pre-dates statehood
and certainly secession.  It's possible, of course, that such an attractive
name for a state would be easily revived in time of crisis.
From: rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: More German Surname Questions
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:24:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1993Jan26.172415.9058
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

tpgwr@sru002.chvpkh.chevron.com  writes:
> 
>   I have been researching ancestors in Germany (Gottenheim to be exact) and 
> have found only 3 families in all of Germany with the last name _ Sennerich. 
> I have run across Senner and Sennerin. I'm not sure if the 'root' Senner has 
> any meaning, but could Sennerich have derived from Senner?
> 
> PAWR
> Chevron Petroleum Technology Co.
> tpgwr@chevron.com

I do not have my German dictionary with me right now so I can not
say for sure.  In Swedish anyway, I would guess the name Sennerich would
mean truly rich.  Senner and Sennerin appear similar to the Swedish
words meaning true or truth.  German and Swedish often are almost the same
or evoluted words from one or the other.

Ron
From: parkerg@osshe.edu (Greg Parker)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Parkinson
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:20:42 GMT
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I am beginning to trace my family roots without the helps of my parents, 
who have passed on.
I am trying to find some information about my paternal grandparents.
My grandfather came from Beaverdam,Wisconsin around 1920 to Bellingham, 
Washington.  His name was George Parkinson.  His wife's maiden name
was Wallace.
Any leads would be appreciated.
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From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Organization: CompSofTech, POB 33937, San Antonio, Texas 78265-3937
Subject:      Clinton Inaugural Address (fwd)
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Readers:

Reference part of this message:
> From VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU!UIUCVMD.BITNET!GUTNBERG Wed Jan 20 20:02:31 1993
> From: "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
> Subject:      Clinton Inaugural Address

> Project Gutenberg has posted Clinton's Inaugural Address.

> ftp mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
> login anonymous
> password you@your.machine
> cd etext93
> get clinton1.txt
> quit

This was posted tonite from another area, and I thought someone here
might want to see or use this information.

Good luck to all,   Cliff
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From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
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Subject:      This message for Richard Hart
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Readers:

I had a problem in getting this message to Richard Hart.

Richard, please email me again....

Your search script worked fine here for me.  Please send me a note

  cliff

> Subject: Re: ROOTS-L Archives
> To: hart@Stars.Reston.Paramax.COM (Lewis Hart)
> Reference part of this message:
> > From Stars.Reston.Paramax.COM!hart Tue Jan 26 16:43:45 1993
>
> >> From VM1.NoDak.EDU!LISTSERV Tue Jan 26 19:05:06 1993
> >> Subject:      File: "DATABASE OUTPUT"
> >> To: Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
>
> > search jones in roots-l since 89/01/01
> --> Database ROOTS-L, 367 hits.
>
> > index
> Item #   Date   Time  Recs   Subject
> ------   ----   ----  ----   -------
> 000367 89/01/04 08:23  263

Cliff Manis            K4ZTF           Manis/Manes Family History
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From:         David Jones <DJONES@HPB.HWC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Looking for place(s) to donate new KAUFFMANN genealogy book
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If there are additiw3on~ral copies please send one to genealogy desk,
National Archives of Canada, Wellington Street, Ottawa, Ontario.
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