From: Carole@brownvm (Carolyn Egan)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: May you live in interesting times.....
Followup-To: alt.astrology
Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:07:05 GMT
Organization: Brown University
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The title is supposedly from an old Chinese saying.  Life is certainly
heightened when lived in interesting times.  Those TIMES link to planetary
configurations over the centuries.  Roy recently posted the titles of some
of the books available in this regard.  Steve Cozzi's book on generations
and cycles is good also.  (check with local booksellers - a smallish book
with a bright yellow cover, probably under $10).  For the rest of the post
- Mars is opposing Neptune today, I hope most of the post will be coherent.
:-)

My current teacher, Gary Christen pointed out the two major events in the
20th century as being the Pluto/Uranus conj. in the 60's and the one now
current.  Let's review some of those events/changes of the 60's, keeping
key words in mind: Pluto - power, Uranus - now, and Neptune in Scorpio -
flower power

1960's
Assassinations of J. Kennedy, R. Kennedy, M.L. King.  Viet Nam.  Culture
changes.  Communes.  LSD.  Timothy Leary.  Hippies.  Free love.  Make love
not war.  Burning draft cards, the flag.  Race riots-Watts and the marches
in the east coast area.    The beginning of the wonderful
technology/computers which now are commonplace. Here in R.I. a shopping
center was burned to the ground and a threat to march into other
neighborhoods which created feelings of panic in many a household. 

 Bear in mind, lest we get carried away with doom, gloom and shock of the
major events that some of 'normal' life does go on.  In fact, I now look at
the 60's as my being more the observer than a participant in the major
events.  I was in the home (yes, a housewife), having babies and my husband
was developing his 'career'.  Having finished school in the late fifties,
we just missed the new cultures that were developing.  We are a product of
the 50's, when Rock & Roll was a SIN!  Life was quite normal and at times
quite innocent for us.  The previous few lines are not to bore you but to
point out that even in event-ridden times, normal life does occur for some.
 This will show up in peoples charts.  For example, my husband & I have
Neptune alone in the sign Virgo.  Pluto/Uranus in Virgo conj. became exact
in the mid 60's conjuncting only our Neptunes.  Is that 'nuff said?  We
were in our own dream.

1990's
The Uran/Neptune is the 2nd major astrological event of this century.
Keywords can be Uranus - now; Neptune - future.  THE FUTURE IS NOW!  The
description/predictions for this event are numerous and can be found in
many astrological journals.  Recently, Richard Nolle was given a 2 minute
exposure on something called Sightings (TV).  I'm not familiar with his
work but have heard his name frequently.  His predictions, from that
program, are quite generic - major earthquake, Castro gone within 18
months, a few other gems and the last - a big *sell* item - t-shirts
quoting "I survived 1993".  At least he didn't come acros as a publicity
seeker.

Now, from memory of the solstice chart predictions:  One outstanding aspect
is the conjunction of Venus/Saturn.  Beautiful, cold, hard reality.  This
describes diamonds.  Thousand points of light???  There is no love in the
chart - it's very cold.  Gary used coords for the Boston area and said the
chart was good for most of the east coast. (Remember, the chart angles
change with different locations)  More wild storms are predicted and
because Mercury was standing with Neptune, we joked about Snidely Whiplash
(the guy with the mustache) and all the lies, lies, nothing but lies which
are ahead for us all.
Since the banks were in trouble and still are reforming/merging, then the
next area of institutions would be the insurance companies. 
Teeter-totter!!!
He talked about the fact that we are overdue for a pandemic, don't forget,
Neptune can be associated with sickness (which is global, rather than an
epidemic), the last one being the flu which hit after WWI.  Aids came up as
the possible epidemic - he said there are about 100,000 aids related
deaths.  The flu claimed millions.  He talked at length about his
discoveries of how that flu may have reached us via sailors on a Spanish
ship (it was called the Spanish flu) which had made port also in China. 
(Remember the Hong Kong flu?, was that 60's?).  He told a wild story of how
the flu is generated, but if I repeat it, could probably turn off lots of
you.
  At any rate, he thinks this year the flu is a strong possibility.

I don't remember if Gary spoke about the Sat/Pluto square but I can relate
what I see.  The last time of this square was in late 1930's. I have this
in my chart and my birthdate is 5/39 with Sat. at 26 deg & Pluto at 29 deg,
Aries/Can.  While this square was forming, there was hate/power buildup
which resulted in WWII and I'm sure most on this list are familiar with
that war.

With Jupiter going to square the Ur/Nep conj later this year, I think we
will be dealing with a lot more about race issues.  When negative, Jupiter
can be bigoted and the squares to the conj. should produce significant
events in September.  Will it be a long hot summer building up to
September?
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This week!!!  The full moon in Can/Cap, will contend with the buildup of
steam from oppositions of Mars to the Ur/Nep, oppo of Moon, Sun conj.
Ur/Nep. and Mercury holding up the rear to bring us the messages after the
full moon. Valliers periods of greatest instability are from 1/5 to 1/8.

There is so much to look at - to react to - to analyze.  Would some others
on the list be willing to post a few of their findings such as finding what
countries have points (within a degree) in their charts of the 18 & 19
degree of Capricorn and 25 degress of Scorpio.  Look at the cardinals and
the fixed signs for the conj. squ and oppos. connections.  How about some
more familiar faces - film stars, music stars.  

I have a great respect for what Bill Clinton will have to face this year. 
His chart is ripe (did he choose this time to incarnate?) for the events. 
His Sun is at 26.00 Leo.  This is also a good year for impeachment or the
attempts thereof.

Briefly, his Solar arc Moon is at 5:17 Cancer, about to conjunct his MC at
5:59 and square his Asc. at 5:31 Libra.  Both angles being touched by the
Moon - a fateful event indeed.  This says a lot about his wife, about to
become a public figure.  Also, the public is in his path to glory!   	
 S.A. Uranus at 6:08 Leo will conjunct natal Mercury at 7:37 Leo - that is
about 18 mnths away - but it is building. S.A Saturn at 17:07 Virgo will
square his n. Nodes at 17:16 Gemini in about 9 weeks based on the chart
done 11/3/92 - that comes to just about now - so let's look for news based
on a restriction of his meeting important new connections.

I'll close for now and will send along the birth info for Amy Fisher in a
separate message.  

Happy New Year to you all, Carol Egan