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From: tmplee@TIS.COM (Theodore Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Currency of comp.binaries.apple2 archive sites
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:22:10 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Does anyone know which of the (US) internet/bitnet archive sites
listed in the FAQ are currently being actively updated with the
comp.binaries.apple2 feed?  When someone suggested that something I
was looking for had been recently sent out on comp.binaries.apple2 I
tried to find it.  After checking a half dozen sites I gave up -- most
do not appear to have been updated since mid- to late-1991, almost
none in 1992.  (LISTSERV@brownvm actually seems to be the most
current, but even it did not have what I was looking for.)

TMPLee@TIS.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProDOS8 2.0.1
From: ahoney@actrix.gen.nz (Allan Honey)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:42:58 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <65085@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
> In article <1992Apr4.074331.24163@actrix.gen.nz> ahoney@actrix.gen.nz (Allan Honey) writes:
> >
> >Ok So how come ProDOS8 2.0.1 returns a major kversion of 2 and a minor 
> >kversion of 1?
> >
> >Or have some bits in the ProDOS Global page been reallocated??
> 
> There are only 8 bits in that byte!  The minimum increment is 1.  There
> has never been a guaranteed method of translating a KVERSION value into
> the splash-screen version number.
> 
> I don't know what all the past KVERSION values were, but ProDOS 1.0.1
> couldn't have fit into much of a pattern.

*WHOOPS* Trust me to be impatient!!

ProDOS 1.0.1, 1.0.2, 1.1.1, 1.9.....

*SIGH*
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From: jnomina@bgsu.edu (Aqualung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Here is the FIX for the new P8 problems
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:09:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: bgsuvax.9803
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.



In some article, unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown Matt) writes:
>
>        Serious qeustion here..  Why is letting the RamFAST do the remapping
>better than letting P8 do the mapping?
>        Since you can already turn off the mapping with the Ramfast, as other
>people have stated, I think I'd rather have Apple's software doing the
>remapping than patching files to get it to turn off the remapping..

Hmm...very interesting indeed!  Not everyone can access this setting
on the RamFAST utilities.  I'm running an old ROM, and although the
manual says the option exists, I only have choices 1-7 for each.
But then, my system is currently down for the count...

Read my next article: "Re: RamFast Settings.." for details...

Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: drew@fnbc.com (Drew Davidson)
Subject: Request for technical information
Reply-To: drew@fnbc.com
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 21:00:49 GMT

Hi!  I was wondering if there exists a comprehensive list somewhere of all of  
the hardware special locations (soft switches, etc.) or other techinical  
specification information on the II,II+,//c & //e on any of the archive sites.   
I tried the FAQ, but it said nothing about these technical issues.  Please  
reply by e-mail.  Thanks in advance!

- Drew
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From: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GScii+
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:47:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: slab.1992Apr16.004753.8751
Reply-To: dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: Damage Inc.

In article <1992Apr15.121943.382@lrc.edu> rheinze@lrc.edu writes:
> Where can I get a copy of GScii+?
> This is a NDA on my system and I have finally decided that
> it is not working.  Or maybe I don't know how to work it.

GScii+ 2.3.1 is available via anonymous ftp from slab.slip.uiuc.edu.  It is a  
SLIP connection to my personal NeXT, and so is kinda slow (.8 to 2.7 k/sec).   
Older versions may be available from wuarchive and tybalt, but I'm not sure.

Derek
From: TBARNER@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple IIGS : FOR SALE
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:44:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I would be interested in getting prices on a 3.5"drive, datalink 1200 modem, and thunderscan GS as well as the software that you have for sale. Are you interested in selling some of the parts separately or is it a package deal.
Thanks, Tom Barner    TBarner@RCN.mass.edu
From: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 & AMR 3.5" 800K drive
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:38:36 GMT
Reply-To: dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: Damage Inc.

In article <1992Apr6.193116.3974@cs.tulane.edu> lang@cs.tulane.edu (Raymond  
Lang) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Apr03.001239.24817@edsi.plexus.COM> cranem@edsi.plexus.COM  
> (Mike Crane) writes:
> > I just downloaded five of the six System 6 disks from GEnie last night
> > (I didn't bother to get Synthlab -- yet) and installed them on my ROM 01
> > GS.  Everything seems to be working fine...except for my non-Apple 3.5"
> > drive.  Whether I am running the Finder or any other program, if the
> > program scans drives, the system will hang on scanning the AMR drive and
> > won't continue until I put a disk in that drive (if there isn't one in
> > there already).  Any clues, suggestions, or expressions of sympathy? :)
> 
> This isn't new under 6.0. I had the same problem under 5.04 when the
> AMR drive was the first device on the smartport chain, i.e., there always
> had to be a disk in the drive.

Yea, but mine isn't first, and I NEVER had problems before.  Nevertheless, it  
sounds like AMR isn't 100% compatible...

Derek
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Installer Problems
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:25:03 GMT
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Apr1.054036.11772@uwm.edu>, greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Mar31.203646.38932@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2frlrepay@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> >
> >	Has anyone had problems using the installer from System 6 on a Vulcan
> >HD (No comments on the HD please, I have already had my share of experiences
> 
> Yes. Probably exactly what you're trying to describe. It's as if the
> system 'loses' the Vulcan?
> 
According to many people, the "optional" Vulcan driver doesn't seem to be
to optional; you need to put it on a _copy_ of the Install disk and boot
to make it work.  To do this, delete a few of the custom Installer scripts
you won't immediately need.  Then the Vulcan driver should fit.

After you boot and install (Easy Install will do nicely), you can use the
unmodified Install disk to install anything else you want.  The Installer
will leave your Vulcan driver installed on your hard disk, as usual.

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Technical  | The opinions expressed herein are
Support, Apple Computer, Inc.         | not those of Apple Computer, and
Personal mail only, please.  Thanks.  | shame on you for thinking otherwise.
^^^^^^^^ Technical questions are not personal. Please post them instead.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kjs39186@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kent Squires)
Subject: Tech Notes?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:32:04 GMT

Does anybody know if new Tech Notes were released since System 6 came out?
If so, where can they be found?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: delaneyg@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: RE: Reslin
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:18:59 GMT

Try this address from archie

Host wuarchive.wustl.edu   (128.252.135.4)
Last updated 04:04 29 Feb 1992

    Location: /mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/apple2/gs/utils
      FILE      r--r--r--     43440  Mar 21  1991   reslin.bsq

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: System 6
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:49:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.145327.17736@cis.ohio-state.edu> meekins@abalone.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes:
>
>Ummm...you removed the RamFast driver? You won't be able to use the RamFast
>without it, otherwise it will crash.Make sure the RamFast driver is installed.
>In fact, I had to copy the RamFast driver onto the install disk before I could
>boot /install and put 6.0 on my HD. You need the RamFast driver....Also,
>make sure you have a recent version of the RamFast driver..Do you have the
>Rom 2.01?

	I don't know about that.  I believe the RamFAST works fine
with the standard GS/OS drivers... in fact I know it does, because I
didn't replace the drivers when I installed System 6.0.  You won't see
the huge increase in speed though without the RamFAST drivers.

>TIM MEEKINS                    Ask me about GNO/ME! - MultiTasking on a IIGS!

Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gtolar@xcluud.sccsi.com (Glynne Tolar)
Subject: Re: System 6 Launcher!
Organization: Greater Montrose UFO Appreciation Society & Data Haven
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:27:59 GMT

In article <65212@apple.Apple.COM> shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas) writes:
>In article <PFuyiB4w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
>
>>Good idea...next Finder, perhaps? Andy?
>
>While I keep close tabs on what Dave's doing to the Finder now, I no longer
>work for IIGS System Software.  I work for Ron Lichty with the Macintosh
>Finder Team.  I -do- contribute every now and then (like trying to get the
>Keyboard Navigation INIT written in one night at Dave's), but I'm no longer
>directly responsible for the Apple IIGS Finder.
>
>andy
>
>-- 
>Andy Nicholas			GEnie & America-Online: shrinkit
>Apple Computer, Inc.		       	      InterNET: shrinkit@apple.com

I just know I'm going to regret saying this but somehow I feel I must.
I saw this comming from a mile away.  I knew Andy was only a temperary in the
Apple II.  All this talk about how great MPW is.  SHEESH!  Apple does to its
employes what it does to its customers.  Pulls them over to the Mac!  Apple's
stradagy for the II is actually simple and smart if you want to save face.
Pull as many over to the Mac then kill the II with the excuse that nobody uses
it.  Gee!  Is it because they don't use it because the company does not really
support it?  NAAAAAHHH!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dkl@xcluud.sccsi.com (David Karl Leikam)
Subject: Re: Binscii'ing With a IIe (HELP!)
Organization: Greater Montrose UFO Appreciation Society & Data Haven
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:45:08 GMT


  You're right, you shouldn't use Appleworks to edit BINSCII'ed files, but why
edit them at all? I don't quite see what you're trying to do by editing them.
THey will normally decode just fine as-is without any garbage-removal.
 
  Of course, you don't say much about how you're getting the files, in what
environment, etc. That information might enable someone to point out an
easier way. FWIW, what I do is write the binscii'd program from CBA2 to a
text file using trn's "w" command. Exit trn and download the text files
with zmodem in ascii mode. The result can be fed to BINSCII (in my case,
GSCII+) without further fuss.  If you can do something similar, it's a
lot easier than the text-capturing routine.
From: TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Sys6/ShowpicNDA anomaly
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:06:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I won't call it a bug, since I don't know what the problem is, but it
seemed worth noting that the showpic.6 NDA has trouble in 3200 mode
working with SOME applications under sys 6, but not all.  It works fine
on top of Paintworks Gold and Wordperfect (which is an improvement --
most NDA's had problems with WordPerfect under 5.0.4 -- none that I use
seem to have problems under 6).  It behaves strangely on top of the
Finder, Teach, and GSHK (I forget which version).  With the latter ones
it will display the first picture fine, but then when it goes to render
the next one a very strange, almost psychedelic, version of the
underlying screen (e.g, finder) shows up instead of a black screen and
the program goes into very very very slow motion -- it will (sometimes,
I haven't had the patience to test it exhaustively) eventually come up
with the next image, but maybe taking ten to a hundred times longer.  I
don't think its a memory problem -- pwg had a smaller max block
available than under the finder, and wp had less free memory.  I have
none of the easy access software installed and have 2 megs.
From: steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: NTSC-->AppleColor RGB?
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:03:00 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <92097.172453CTCOLE@MTUS5.BITNET> CTCOLE@MTUS5.BITNET writes:

>Is it possible to get or build a converter that will allow me to view
>an NTSC signal on my IIGS's monitor?  If so, how?
>
>
>Thanks,
>Christopher Cole
>
>ctcole@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu
>mac@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu
>ctcole@mtu.edu


Yes, it is.  I just looked through my copies of Radio-Electronics articles,
and I couldn't find the one I want.  Look through the yearly index (It's
probably 1989-90 or later) for NTSC.  They have a circuit that does just
what you want.  I have not built it, but from what it says, it should work.
 The parts kit they offer costs around $100, or you can buy one
pre-assembled for more.  

Hope this helped!

Steve

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From: rheinze@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Icons comment on Sys 6
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:49:44 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

Please tell me the purpose for the icons notes
and how I can use them to make things helpful?

When I click on an icon and do the show info
I get 3 folders.  One shows the info about the file,
Two tells where it is.  And three lets me comment.

How do I use the comment?  What is its purpose?
How are others using this?
From: tcomtaob@BLUFFS.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Zip Init 1.2...
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:18:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

The following revelation escaped Brendan Hoar's lips:
> 
> New problem under 6.0.  This has NOT been tracked down to a single cause.
> 
> Anyway, the ZipInit seems to be flakey.

    I don't know which version of the ZipGS software I'm running with my
8/16 but everything seems to be behaving properly.  I'll check out the
ZipInit settings a little more closely...

> I guess were starting to have a bit of the old macintosh finder policy.  That
> is, unless you try hard to do otherwise, you always quit back to finder before
> the launcher...
> is there a way to not force finder into the picture?  Its odd (to me) that (on
> a GS) if you quit the startup app, you are returned to the finder.

    Rename Prosel-16 to 'Finder' and call Finder 6.0 'Finder6.0' or
something like that.  The launcher only knows that it wants to quit back to
an S16 called 'Finder'.  Give it Prosel-16 instead.  As far as I know, that
doesn't break any rules since the launcher shouldn't assume anything about
the shell it is quitting to.

> Hmmm...I entered this message at 01:29:40+-a minute or two EST on 7-APR-92. 
> Note to myself to watch the post date.  If you notice a discrepancy let me
> know.  Thanks.

    Looks good to me, the header here says April 7, 1:32 am EST.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: markj@nuchat.sccsi.com (Mark Johnson)
Subject: Re: Finder extensions in sys 6
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:24:08 GMT

Speaking of documentation.  I recieved the System 6 package from Byteworks
today.  I am dissapointed.  The documentation they included only mentioned
changes from system 6 beta d53 to present.  Byteworks refers to "Engineering
Reference Specifications"  and gives the relevent titles.


The Ones I would like to see are:

         Finder 6.0 Delta ERS     Control Pannel ERS
         HFS FST ERS    PASCAL FST ERS    DOS 3.3 FST ERS
         Apple IIGS Toolbox Changes for System 6.0
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From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:54:35 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <65411@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.170442.2414@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>>6.0 works fine for me except, and I realize this is not a high priority
>>item to many, the fact that you don't get to see DWGS's title screen for
>>some reason. It would be very nice to have an easy answer to that one!
>
>You might try changing the application's auxiliary type to $DB02 if it
>isn't already $DB0x.  This tells the system that the app will use the
>Super Hi-Res screen, so the system doesn't try turning it off.

'Taint the problem.  The SHR screen *is* on, but all you can see is three
lines of garbage up at the very top.

>David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: johnt@meaddata.com (John Townsend)
Subject: Re: Minimum RamFAST ROM's
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:40:20 GMT

In article <9204090049.AA09732@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca>, tcomtaob@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca (Brian Tao) writes:
|> The following revelation escaped Marc Sira's lips:
|> > 
|> > BTW! To anyone who has a RamFAST with a ROM revision LESS THAN 2.01a, you 
|> > MUST have an upgrade to use the new P8. (This may be your problem, TC).
|> 
|>     Why is that?  I'm still using ROM 1.11 (never changed them since I
|> bought the RamFAST last year) and ProDOS 8 works fine as long as I set
|> the slot mappings all to 0.

I just talked to the folks at CV Technologies, right here in the Dayton area,
and was told that they will begin shipping ROM 3.0 upgrades for the RamFAST
on April 17.  The cost is $15.  These ROMs fix the problem of ProDOS 8 2.0.1
remapping partitions (which "Apple stole from us"), as well as a few other
bugs they've discovered.

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From: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:21:19 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Huang)

In article <1992Apr10.151623.8903@crash.cts.com>,
flash@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Glenn Koproske) writes:
>If I see another IIgs'er with a RamFAST write in complaining about how System
>6.0 doesn't work, I'm going to SCREAM!
>
>Get a life.  Get a IIe.  Then you won't have any more problems.

   Oh? That's news to me! The problem a lot of people seem to be having is
duplicate partitions while in Prodos 8, caused by both the RamFAST and P8
remapping partitions. Prodos 8 runs just fine on a //e. A RamFAST works
just fine in a //e.

   So any //e owners with RamFASTs and P8 2.0.1 out there? :-)

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From: magras@pacific.cps.msu.edu (Mr. Jean-Claude Magras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: extra block added in copy
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:55:48 GMT
Organization: Anarchy Committee
Originator: magras@pacific.cps.msu.edu

Hello again!

In testing the copying facility of a program I'm going to release, I tried
to copy ORCA.SYS16 or whatever the shell program is called on the orcam 2.1
disk, its 161 blocks long. The copy my program makes is 1 block longer,
even though the file size statement in the ProDOS 8 catalog says they're
the same length. What's going on  ?

Sincerely,

J.C. Magras

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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Tech Notes?
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:47:04 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr13.183204.21562@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> kjs39186@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kent Squires) writes:
>Does anybody know if new Tech Notes were released since System 6 came out?
>If so, where can they be found?

Not yet--but we identified 57 notes that need to be written or revised for
System 6.  In fact, I should be doing some of them now, instead of reading
news....
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Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
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My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: elw@mayo.edu (Ellis Workman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple ][ stuff for sale
Keywords: leo, mike, don, raph, april, vernon, erma
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:10:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: bmw.1992Apr8.181000.29678
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus

I appreciate seeing wanted and for sale stuff in comp.sys.apple2.

misc.forsale.computers obviously consists of mostly, non-apple //
stuff.  Here I can read technical stuff as well as pick up a
few bargains.