From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Flames......
Date: 28 Dec 1992 16:24:39 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <01GSTG6J3RJ6003NZ9@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU>, MARK@AHECAS.Colorado.EDU ("Mark Montanez, System Programmer/Manager, AHEC") writes:
>Carl... if you feel the need to cuss someone out... do it via private
>e-mail.... I'm *sure* you know how.... and keep the list for what it's for.....
>solving problems... like *YOU THINK* that you do so well..... 

Normally I do.  However, Sabry was giving no indication that he was actually
reading private e-mail.  Since his system is NOT directly on the internet (or
at least, there are no address records for SHEBIN.EG listed by the
nameservers), as near as I could tell, e-mail sent to him simply wasn't
reaching him.

>This list could be a real asset to those subscribed... but *YOU* make it much
>less.. when you flame.... in some kind of a twisted attempt to stroke your ego.

Gee, I guess this message from you is making the list more useful, too?  By the
way, when's the last time you posted any technical information to the list?
	
>Prove how smart you are with your solutions... not with you smart-ass flames...
>or better yet... if your *SO* smart... you don't need this list.... so just drop
>out... and leave us to our (in your opinion) easy insignificant problems.....

When I suggest the Sabry get an interpreter, it was *NOT* intended as a flame. 
It was intended as a constructive suggestion.  I was assuming that much of the
trouble he's having was with his difficulties with the English language.

>Carl... find a good tharapist!!! Maybe there is a reason that you felt the need
>to respond/defend yourself to the *BUTHEAD* post... that wasn't addressed to
>anyone!!! 

It was addressed in general; as someone whose posts had included some of what
the guy who posted that message objected to, I chose to answer him.

>I know, I know... I'm doing exactly what I asked him not to do.... But maybe
>Carl needs to be reminded that this is *OUR* list not his private question -
>answer and *BITCH* session.... and maybe a post to the list will get enough
>traffic/response to do to Carl just what he does to others.  
>
>I've donned my full body flame retardant suit... so if you *HAVE* to Carl... or
>whomever.... go ahead... but before or while you do... think about what I'm
>saying for a few seconds....There's a meaning there if you look/listen...

Again, I ask you:  When's the last time you posted anything useful to this
group?  Yeah, you're *REAL* impressive:  Your first post is to whine.  Really
constructive.

>BTW: Carl... I'll just laugh.....*MY* ego isn't attached to my keyboard!!!

No more than your brain is attached in any way to your fingers.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.