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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: PowerBook 160: availability, price, etc.
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:48:55 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu's message of 3 Sep 92 04:24:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.042454.9526@chpc.utexas.edu> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:

   I would hate
   to take out a loan for a machine, and have a better machine (16 gray
   shades, and ability to drive a color monitor easily) come out at
   the same price 4 weeks later... 4 months, maybe, but not 4 weeks!

Get used to it, kid. I paid $5000 for a PB140 8/40 in April.

Nick.
--
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               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
From: brl@kopasker.is (Bjorgvin Runar Leifsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Mac Tools Woes and Annoyances
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:55:56 GMT
Organization: Primary School of Kopasker, Iceland

vito@well.sf.ca.us (Andris Paul Vitols) writes:


>I tried out Central Point's Mac Tools on two Macs today, one at work and one
>at home.  I found two interesting things:

>	1.) My hard disk has 2 partitions, partitioned with FWB's Hard Disk
>Toolkit.  One partition is password protected and one isn't.  CP Disk Fix
>couldn't analyze either of them even when both were mounted on the desktop!

What is FWB?  I have an SE20 at home with two hard drives.  MacTools 2 had no
problem analyzing them both.  At work I use a IIci with 80 meg disk, on 
which 30 megs are set aside for SoftAT.  No problem there either.

>	2.)  None of the CP MacTools utilities would launch with Norton
>Filesaver 2.0 installed on the machines!

All CP MT utils. launched easily on both machines with NF 2.0 installed.

>I used a IIsi and an LCII, both with sys 7.0 and tuneup 1.1.1

Both machines are with sys 7.0 and tuneup (older version than 1.1.1).

The only point I'm trying to make is how the same software sometimes can
behave differently on different machines.  Don't know why but perhaps inits,
CDevs and so on are partly involved.

Bjorgvin R. Leifsson
brl@kopasker.is
From: keesh@wsinti01.info.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Does StyleWriter do envelopes?
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:19:01 GMT
Reply-To: keesh@info.win.tue.nl

psweeney@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:

>Hello all-

>I'm wondering how well a stylewriter will print envelopes.
>I'm talking about the nice cotton envelopes you might
>use when sending out resumes.  My typewriter's
>print just doesn't seem to want to stick to the paper.
>And it's a pain to type in addresses more than once.

>Does it print well?  Does it wrinkle the envelope at all?

>Any response is welcome.
>Peter Sweeney
>psweeney@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu

I use my Stylewriter now and then for envelope printing and it works very
easily. You have to adjust the paper thickness lever and feed it from the
back. If you feed it straight, it will not wrinkle. The paper path from this
slot is quite straight.  I have no problems with ink coming off, although
you may have flowing of the ink on low quality paper, but my experience is
that envelopes behave quite well in this repsect. Our secretary has the same
problem as you describe with her IBM typewriter and she sticks some
transparent tape or so on the address.



-- 
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e-mail: keesh@win.tue.nl   telephone: +31-40-474120    fax: +31-40-463992
From: ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:07:51 GMT
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Organization: KFA  Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <ewright.714845483@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V.
Wright) says:
>
>affix smiley faces to *all* your arguments.  And I'm still waiting for
>you to tell me where you got ATM and OS/2 for free.

Let`s see: where do I get MacOS for free? At the Mac dealer, if I buy a Mac.
So where do I probably get OS/2 for free? At the IMB dealer, if I buy a PS/2.
Or from Dell (as far as I have heard) if I buy a Dell machine.
If I don`t buy a machine I get nothing for free. Apple charges me DM149 = $100
for System 7 and IBM DM212 = $141 for OS/2.

>No, what Apple is really charging you for is (overpriced) documentation
>and technical support.  If all you want is System 7, you can get that
>free.
See above. A device or program w/o documentation is no device or program.
It`s simply nonexistent for any practical purpose. If I depend on it
which is surely true in case of an OS I need doumentation i.e. pay cash.

>>And they will charge you considerably if you want AU/X.
>
>Of course, why anyone would want AU/X is an interesting question.

Ask Apple, they obviosly thought it was a good idea to develope it. Or
perhaps they had some spare money. In that case the interesting question
is why ?

>So, I assume that either
>
>a) the prices you quote for PC clones include a German-language operating
>system, German keyboard, and German scripts that support all word-processing,
>page-layout, spreadsheet, and other software, or
>
>b) you are once again up to your old trick of taking two machines with
>vastly different features and capabilities, claiming that they are
>"equivalent machines," and comparing prices to make your point.
>
>How many people out there are betting on b? :-)

This time ask me :-) Of course a computer in Germany has a German keyboard.
And the machine I listed had actually two OSes: a German DOS/Windows and a
German OS/2. You can use whatever you want. I don`t know what you mean with
German scripts, but when you buy a German wordprocessor or a German spread-
sheet then you get German software. BTW: the $5700 IIsi didn`t include any
applications despite of HyperCard for which you have to buy the docs for an
extra charge.

>Of course, if a Mac IIsi really does sell for $3200 more in Germany than
>it does in the United States, there's an obvious solution.  Fly to the US
>and buy one here.  You should be able to pay the import duty, replace the
>US power supply with a foreign one, and still have enough money left over
>for a very nice vacation.

Thats a nice idea:    bundling a computer with a free vacation in the US.
A whole new dimension of userfriendliness. Get your Mac in sunny
California and get a free suntan. Great!

Michael Bode.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:15664 comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:22638
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: RE: Compatibility Checker (WANTED)
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:21:07 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

I have version 1.1 here on the BBS.  Feel free to call!


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From: bng@tropel.gca.com (Baldwin Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: *** DISCOUNTED MACS !!! ***
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:00:59 GMT

HELLO EVERYONE!

I was talking to a salesman this morning at ComputerCity (a big computer store
here in Rochester, NY).  He told me that the BIG DISCOUNT from university 
computer stores right now will not be available to non-university compute 
stores until the week of 9/14.  Is that right?  Does anyone know about the
"inside" info as to how much discount those stores will be able to give?
Deeper discount than universities'??

Just for your info:

Univ. of Rochester, Computer Sales
IIsi 5/80 CPU	~$1499

ComputerCity:
IIsi 5/80 CPU	~$2200

Thanks,
Baldwin Ng

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From: barretpj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Phil J Barrett)
Newsgroups: uk.sources,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Alternative archive for Umich Mac stuff
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:08:20 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Aston University

Even shorter shortcut directory:
        src.doc.ic.ac.uk:mac/umich

Only problem is that everything (well, nearly) is .Z compressed which means
you need MacCompress - unless there's a way of making Fetch ask for the
file without the .Z...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Wyse terminal emulation
From: Stephen Howard <stephen_howard@macweek.ziff.com>
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:13:26 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: MacWEEK
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9X-XXDate: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14:18:39 GMTLines: 15

In article <1992Aug21.204505.1950@cognex.uucp> Maria Buzalsky,
maria@cognex.uucp writes:
>Our new telephone system needs a Wyse terminal for communications.  Is
there a software
>package that will emulate a Wyse terminal ( for the mac )?  I am having
a very difficult
>time finding this.

MacBLAST II from US Robotic and MacEmulate from Cornerstone Data both
claim to support Wyse terminals. You can reach Cornerstone Data Systems
at P.O. Box 6260, Anaheim, Calif. 02816; (714) 772-5527 voice, (714)
772-2838 fax. And U.S.  Robotics Software at 8100 N. McCormick Blvd.,
Skokie, II 60076, (708) 982-5001 voice.

Stephen Howard
From: cali@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (cali )
Subject: Only Mac Does It
Keywords: Macros
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:25:39 GMT

Here's probably one example of "you can do it on a Mac, but not on a PC":  use 
a popular word processor (such as MS Word) to create a file in English, 
Chinese, Korean, Hebrew, and Japanese (yes, all these in a single file, 
written in a single session).

On a Macintosh, one can install one operating system on top of another. I've
installed three foreign language operating systems this way, and can switch
around for multi-lingual word processing.

Of course not so many people would require this capability of their 
computers...


I wish I could do it with DOS -- to save $$.

-- cali
From: mike@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Smithwick)
Subject: Is this a virus???
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:48:37 GMT

[]

Well, I may have come across my first Mac virus,
but I can't find it listed anywhere.

Being a developer I very rarely buy SW or get disks from anyone so I never
bothered to get a virus sniffer. But last week I bought
Expert Astronomer (only the 4rth commercial product I've bought) and
after using it about 30 minutes I hear a whistling sound and suddenly my
keyboard ceased working. When I would try to type in something I would
get a cutsie ping sound. I quickly backed up my source code and RUSHED out
Too get a copy of SAM but it couldn't find anything wrong. Since then I
haven't had any problems. I updated SAM so it is current.

So does this thing sound familiar?

I am running a Mac IIci with Sys 7.

Mike

-- 
"There is no problem too big that can't be solved with high explosives"-Rush

Mike Smithwick - ames!zorch!mike
From: carroll@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Carroll Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: English usage
Keywords: Its and it's
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:54:32 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
Originator: carroll@client61.comlab

This is of course not the group for a -discussion- either of grammar or of
linguistic imperialism. However:

The posting about "it's" and "its" was not a criticism --- it was a
statement of fact. If the language of comp.sys.mac.misc were French, say,
then one of its attractions would, to some people, be the opportunity of
improving their French.

An easy way to remember which is which is to recall "his" and "he's". That
establishes the pattern not only for "its" and "it's", but for "your"/"you're"
and "their"/"they're" as well.

Carroll Morgan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Too many INIT icons
Keywords: INIT, icons, startup
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:29:16 GMT

gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman) writes:

>    I seem to remember that there's an app or cdev or something that
>arranges INIT icons in rows on startup so they don't disappear off the
>right-hand edge of the screen. Does anybody remember the name and an ftp
>location?

   It's called IconWrap. It's an extension. I believe 1.2 is the latest
version. It works nicely *most* of the time. It's probably available
about anywhere.
From: umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Connie Cho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:45:36 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <714823281.F00001@blkcat.UUCP> Kaz.Karl@f1138.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Kaz Karl) writes:
>Oh, be real...Perhaps you can buy an si for $2500, but that clunky machine is

  [stuff deleted]

>Give-take...each has it's strengths and weaknesses...and face it, Mac is still
>in second...and this is from someone using a ci...
 ^^^^^^^^^

Different strokes for different folks ... face it, the Mac comes in in 
whatever place depending on your needs. According to my criteria, I wouldn't
trade it for anything, not a 486, an Atari Falcon, an Amiga, or an Indigo.

(Well, maybe I would trade my si for a Quadra )

CKC
>

a
From: jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:54:48 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep3.063936.18089@ugle.unit.no> terjer@ifi.unit.no (Terje Rydland) writes:
>
>>>Windows effectively has no 640k barrier, and OS/2 cannot.  Period.
>
>I think I will just tell a story:
>
>I have a friend who is definitely not a Mac user. He works in a place
>where they produces maps, and they needed a system that could
>manipulate maps in 24 bit colour. The datafiles for producing
>these maps are about 20 - 60 MB in size, and they wanted to manipulate
>these maps with commercial drawing packages like Illustrator or
>Freehand or something similar. For speed they need to have all
>the data in RAM as they work.

I have a friend who was doing color manipulation research at IBM.  They
used a Quadra 950 for the same reason.
 
Jess Holle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: Paul Peterson <paulp@ccsd.uts.edu.au>
Subject: LocalTalk/EtherTalk Bridge
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:35:07 GMT
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X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-Xxdate: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:33:20 GMT

	I've got an LC/II with an ethernet card installed connected to our
backbone for connections to our Unix hosts. The problem is that the same LC/II
has already had a Personal Laserwriter NTX connectted to it via LocalTalk.

	Question: Does anyone know of a way whereby the same Mac can use both
LocalTalk and EtherTalk *simultaneously*, as currently the Mac has to be
switched between LocalTalk (for printing) and EtherTalk (for telnet
connections).

	Any help that can be give will be most appreciated. Please send replies
via Email and all replies will be summerised and posted to com.sys.mac.misc.

BTW - I know of GatorBoxes and other such LocalTalk-Ethernet gateways as
possible solutions. 

Cheers,

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From: north@Apple.COM (Don North)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Only Mac Does It
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:14:30 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <ggvy=6l@rpi.edu> johnsd2@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <la4st0INN42f@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>, fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix) writes:
>[various stuff about Windows NT deleted]
>|> 
>|> None of them define what "NT" means.  Please?
>
>"New Technology", I believe.

Actually, in the spirit of IBM->HAL, VMS->WNT (ie, Windows/NT) ...

[Dave Cutler, ex of DEC & VMS, is the head honcho of MS/WNT]

-- 

Don North   ----   Apple Computer, Inc.   ----   Advanced Technology Group

...!apple!north     north@apple.com      NORTH      KD6JTT     etc,etc,etc

{ Facts are facts,  but any opinions expressed are my own,  and *do not* }
{ represent any viewpoint, official or otherwise, of Apple Computer, Inc }
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: pjharris@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re: 13" RGB or Ethernet card via SCSI port SE/30. Which is best ?
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:19:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep03.091800.15024@kub.nl>, egon@kub.nl (Egon Verharen) writes:
> Dear Mac goeroes,
> 
> This is more a question about experiences than solutions.
> We have the following problem:
> 	We would like to connect a 13" RGB monitor to a SE/30,
> 	however, the PDS slot of the SE/30 is already filled
> 	by an Ethernet Card.
> 
> I have heard of the following solutions:
> - Connect the color monitor through the SCSI port of the SE/30
> (I believe this solution is called SCSI-Graph, or something like that)
> or
> - connect the ethernet via the SCSI port and put the color card
> in the SE/30.
> 
> It is said :-) that the second solution is the most reliable, however
> the ethernet working will be slower.
> In price the solutions are almost the same. Around Dhfl. 1900,- 
> (that is around $1175.-) in the Netherlands.
> 
> My question now is:
> 	Has anyone experience with connecting either a color
> 	monitor or the ethernet via SCSI (or maybe even both) ??
> 
> Many thanks in advance, and if a get some good replies by 
> personal email (in stead of in these newsgroups) I will
> ofcourse summarise to the net.
> 
> 
> **  Egon M. Verharen  **	
> 				Institute for Language Technology
> internet: egon@kub.nl 		and Artificial Intelligence (ITK)
>         		        P.O.BOX 90153
> phone: (+31) (13) 662767	5000 LE  Tilburg, The Netherlands
> fax:   (+31) (13) 663069
> 
> 

I have seen the SCSI-Graph in action.  If you're not too concerned with screen
re-draw speed, then it's a pretty good choice (passing QDvideo blocks down
the SCSI path will always be slower than a dedicated video processor).  I don't
have any experience with SCSI based E-net products, only bus/dedicated systems.

Patrick
From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Stylewriter printing problems
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:47:43 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

In article <1992Sep3.161335.10566@waikato.ac.nz> ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:
>
>As I recall, 4.00e was a quick hack to get it working on the Quadras.
>Microsoft's recommendation was that users of other Mac models stick with 4.00d.
>

Actually, it was quick hack to get it working on the Laserwriter LS. When I
got my LS, I called up Microsoft and they were going to send me the 4.00e 
update, but they sent me Flight Simulatory by accident. I was going to return
that but then 5.0 came out, so I didn't need the update anymore.

h.
From: cory@enigami.mv.com (Cory Kempf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Too many INIT icons
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 18:09:54 EST
Organization: EnigamI, Inc., Nashua, NH
Reply-To: cory@enigami.mv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <gurman.714932342@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov> (comp.sys.mac.misc), gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman) writes:
>
>    I seem to remember that there's an app or cdev or something that
>arranges INIT icons in rows on startup so they don't disappear off the
>right-hand edge of the screen. Does anybody remember the name and an ftp
>location?

The next rev of InitPicker (3.0) is *supposed* to have that feature,
along with working with system 7 (properly).

I have not seen it yeet though.

+C


-------------------------------------------------------------
Cory Kempf                    EnigamI, Inc.
cory@enigami.mv.com           ...!decvax!enigami!cory
Annon:	wi.5036@wizvax.methuen.ma.us

In two years, will you be willing to admit who you voted for 
this year?  Think about it.
From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Where is IconWrap? (was re: Too Many INIT Icons)
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:22:04 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Sep3.005352.9207@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
> In article <1992Aug31.092231.21432@etek.chalmers.se>, janolov@cdg.chalmers.se (Jan-Olov Lantto) writes:
>>>In article <gurman.714932342@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov> (comp.sys.mac.misc),
>> gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman) writes:
>>>
>>>    I seem to remember that there's an app or cdev or something that
>>>arranges INIT icons in rows on startup so they don't disappear off the
>>>right-hand edge of the screen. Does anybody remember the name and an ftp
>>>location?
>>>
>> Try IconWrap. I think you can find it on sumex (36.44.0.6).
> 
> Which directory is it under?  I presume it'd be an init or CDEV...and I've
> looked in both the cp and ex directories...NADA!  if someone out there could
> point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it greatly!
> 
> Bruce
> 
> -- 
> .sig?  We don' need no steenkin' .sig!
> 
> Bruce Anderson: A tradition of Chaos and Disorder since 1967
> spock@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (unix)	00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp (VAX)
> Don't look at me in that tone of voice!  BSU disclaims me, and I disclaim them.


Iconwrap is in mac.archive.umich.edu as 
"mac/system.extensions/init/iconwrap.sit.hqx"
I'm planning to get it myself ...


               -- Seamus Cooney, Department of English, 
		  Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI 49008
		  e-mail: COONEYS@wmich.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<ajross.714890195@husc10> <92240.140752REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:53:35 GMT

REE700A> == REE700A  <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> 

 REE700A> Despite the fact that this is the wrong heading, I know ewright will
 REE700A> read it...
 REE700A>    Post your best (even theoretical) numbers of
 REE700A> a) MIPS
 REE700A> b) MFlops
 REE700A> c) pixels/second
 REE700A> d) kB/second disk speed.

I don't need MIPS/MFlops to do word processing.  I need something that
is powerful enough to do what I want, and easy enough to use that I can
do what I want in a reasonable time frame.  Fast enough to keep up with
me is fine (especially if I'm using something besides Word 5.0, aka
"PigWord") -- and that's a Classic or PB100.

Once again, the PC fans are pushing hardware numbers, hardware numbers,
hardware numbers.  Just remember, nobody ever wanted a 3/4" drill, they
just want a 3/4" hole.

If I just wanted "best MIPS for $6K," I'll go buy a SPARCstation ELC, or
HP PA, or RS/6000 or something, and put up with Unix.  Or I'll rent
$6000 worth of time on a Connection Machine.

--
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc