HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: castor@athena.mit.edu (Charlie)
Subject: Re: change of spot.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:17:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.204534.37689@fourd.com>, Ira_J._Seskin@fourd.com writes:
|> >>  In thatepisode I thought he had long fluffy haired grey-brown fur.  In A
|> Fist Full of Datas he had short light orange fur...<<
|>  
|> Spot ... just before the episode opened, had just come from a session with the
|> notorious hair stylist of the Enterprise...Mr. Motto! either that,or you TV
|> needs some color adjustments.
|>  

Nice explanation, but I'm pretty sure it is Mr. Mot not Motto.
At least that's the way they spell it in _Unification_, if my
memory still works that is.

-Charlie
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From: judim@wes.on.ca (Judi Mota)
Subject: Re: Points to Ponder: The Quality of Life
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:10:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.054008.26225@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
>In article <Bxx12D.FtB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley) writes:
>>You're complaining that he keeps his cool and doesn't panic? I'd say that
>>would make a GREAT Chief Engineer.
>>
>  S'pose I should have made that point a bit clearer.  I wasn't complaining
>  that Geordi keeps his cool.  I was complaining that he never seems to be more
>  than circumstantially affected by things going on around him.  There's a
>
>  Sure, it's possible to be effective and efficient, but I have great dif-
>  ficulty accepting this sort of detached behaviour from a human (especially
>  given the portrayal of Geordi in the first four seasons).  Data, yes.
>  Geordi, nope.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with this.  Two reasons.

First, I would think that Starfleet Academy would run simulations of crisis
situations many, many times.  Secondly, just as a prospective employer would
look for someone to handle a particular type of job, Starfleet would 
certainly look for someone who could definitely keep his wits about him when
its possible that the entire ship can be destroyed.  Chief Engineer of a star-
ship would certainly be picked in a very selective process.   In fact, any
engineer would be picked in a very selective process, don't you think?

One additional thing - the human factor.  I have fainted at the sight of my
own blood.  I used to work at an ad agency where we had high school students
come in for work terms.  They sometimes didn't realize how sharp some of the
cutting tools are.  Twice, we had students who slit a (minor) tip of a finger
off.  (I'm getting squeamish even writing this.)  In both cases, I had to
get them to the washroom, see how deep the cut was, wrap it in towels, and
drive them to the hospital.  Also, when I got back to the office, I would
have to clean up the area where the accident happened.  An hour after it was
all over, I would get nervous and sweaty and end up in the washroom, with my 
lunch in the toilet.  I *had* to keep calm under these circumstances because
no one else could or would.

Just my 2 cents worth!
Judi

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From: analog@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Monahan)
Subject: Re: Crusher's "Pushiness" not politically correct
Keywords: The thought police are watching you!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:43:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.060623.21107@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:

	(Some very valid points.  Hurray!)


and then...


>  - Crusher seems to get pushier every episode...


	Hey, watch it man!  You can't call crusher pushy!  As we of the Dorm Rechave been so vehemently reminded, she's a woman!  Therefore, she is assertive,  and perhaps even career minded or goal oriented.  "Pushy" is a definite NO-NO.



					Thank you for your support,



					Michael J. Monahan (analog@mentor)
					Member: Dorm Rec

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From: sajid@jam.wpd.sgi.com (Sajid Zia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: I am Sorry ( Communiation between crew...)
Date: 21 Nov 1992 00:26:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
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I apologise for asking a question which has already been
discussed. Actually I am new to this group so I did'nt know.

Sajid
From: ecameron@groucho.mrc.uidaho.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: TNG CAST on Joan Rivers
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:10:34 GMT
Reply-To: ecameron@groucho.mrc.uidaho.edu ()
Organization: uidaho



I missed it!  I just read the post about it today (11/19) and I am

devistated.  Can anyone fill me in on what was said?

Thanks in advance...

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From: barry@seas.smu.edu (Robert Barry)
Subject: Re: Vulcan actress and Worf's mate
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:52:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.213409.3545@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Chris Meadows writes:
>I can't believe it!  Star Trek: The Next Generation actually casts
>the same actors in more than one role?  I can remember that Mark
>Lenard was the only Trek actor to portray a Vulcan, a Klingon, and 
>a Romulan, and that Diana Muldaur portrayed 2 or 3 different doctors
>in the old series in addition to her Dr. Pulaski role on ST:TNG, but
>to find out that ST:TNG does it too--that's great!  (Of course, I
>already knew about their cross-casting of Rene as young Picard, but...)_
>
>--
>Chris Meadows // CHM173S@SMSVMA // CMEADOWS@NYX.CS.DU.EDU

Pardon my lack of trival detail - but didn't the actress that played Rho
also play the daughter of that scientist (in love with Lwaxana) that was
put to death because he was too old??

Robert J. Barry
From: det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST: TNG has gone down the toilet!
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:20:27 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
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In article <rawdon.722380024@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>Alexander has mostly been grossly mishandled, I think.  His best portrayal to
>date has been in "A Fistful Of Datas", where he and Worf actually have some
>*positive* interaction, rather than the endless and painful griping and
>arguing they had in "Ethics" and "New Ground" (neither of which I liked).

Hey, does anyone else on this net actually have children?  The struggle
for communication (and control) between children and parents/adults is
REAL, especially when a child who's had as much uncertainty in his upbringing
as Alexander has had.

It seems to me that a lot of the voices in this group, as much as they
gripe about lack of character in the principal cast, really want flat
cardboard cutouts with no "human" flaws.  Are you all surrounded by
Perfect People, who never make errors or get testy when stressed?
No one you know has a problem talking to his or her child?


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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Fist full of data's force field question
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:39:39 GMT

In article <Bxpwq0.E7z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Richard Lamb) writes:
>Ok if the only problem with Worf's force lasting forever was the energy
>then why can't the ship's security team rig up a bunch of personal
>fields. Have them automatated to only turn on when fired upon. Let a
>phaser like thing power them. Why not. If Worf can rig it surely a real
>engineer could pull it off. (I'm not trying to be racist against Worf
>so any Klingons out there don't flame me).

Personal force fields for everyone, eh?  Do you really want to read
10,000 posts decrying the PFF and how it removes the threat of personal
injury from all of the characters?

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From: myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin)
Subject: Re: myempire (Matt J. Martin)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:39:02 GMT


In article <BxsJ9B.7LJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> durrant@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
>
>	I just felt a pressing need to let everyone know that all the students
>at Purdue are not as sexist, demented, and sad as Matt J. Martin (myempire).
>Actually, the vast majority of people I've met here are human beings with a
>sense of equality.  Flame away at him--he deserves it.
>
>Christine
>
  Am I sexist?

  Perhaps a bit.  But then, who isn't?  At least I have the integrity to 
admit it.
  And I certainly don't go around judging people solely on the basis of their
gender.  They all have more than enough annoying personnal attributes upon
which to judge them.

  Am I demented?

  Damn straight I am!  

  Am I sad?

  Only when watching this season's episodes.

  And about other people at Purdue not being like me, it may be true, but
it's not for lack of effort.


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From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: A Fistful of Datas best line
Date: 16 Nov 1992 07:50:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1992Nov16.014517.17929@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
ruhtra@turing.toronto.edu (Arthur Tateishi) writes:
->In article <92320.144712PAB7@psuvm.psu.edu> <PAB7@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
->>Patrick Stewart saying convincingly and with a straight face "I'm really not
->>much of an actor."  I was on the floor.
->
->Oooh, but it got better just seconds later. Maybe you missed it while
->on the floor.
->After Picard says, (probably not exact) "I'm much too busy to learn a part."
->Crusher responds, "Don't worry! I'm not asking you to play a lead or
->something."
->Picard really looks quite shocked and crestfallen at that point!
->This really had me roaring!

And it was somewhat reminiscent of the scene with Kirk and Scotty in
The Trouble With Tribbles where Scotty goes he didn't take a punch at
the Klingons until after they insulted the Enterprise, *not* while they
were calling Kirk names.
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From: cwarrick@diana.cair.du.edu (CATHERINE E. WARRICK)
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "A Fistful of Data's" (spoilers)
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 21:21:10 GMT

In article <BxqFuy.4zI@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:
>
>
>  The last thing we want to see is Troi saving Worf's ass.  (Ok, maybe seeing
>Keiko saving Worf's ass would be pretty annoying also).  That ranks right up
>there with Troi beating Data at chess.  I mean, come on, really!
>
>  If we're going to see someone in tight leather pants, what about Ro?  Troi's
>butt is a little too volumeous for that.
>
>  Is it just us, or can Crusher be a total bitch or what?  Not only does she
>try to seduce Picard into accepting her little fantasy of a role, but she
>also has the audacity to suggest that she's superior, compared to Riker, when
>it comes to dramatic bullshit.  We just don't think she makes a good director
>bitch.
>
     Ok, you little pigs.  I've sat here and read endless lines of ignorant,
obnoxious sexism, and finally I've had more than enough.  You must have
realized from the responses to the last round of comments about Troi's figure
that some of us are offended by this.  Obviously, you don't care.  That being
the case, you deserve to be flamed until you're roasted well done.  I shall
do so gleefully.
     What's the problem, guys?  Why does it bother you to see "Troi saving
Worf's ass", or Keiko, or Troi beating Data at chess?  Why is Crusher, in
a rare authority role, "a total bitch"? Of course, female figures with
real authority are such a rarity on this show, I can understand your surprise.
But the junior-high level reactions are pitiful.  I thought the show's
writers were often sexist, but you clowns could give them lessons.  And no, I donot care if you were "just kidding."  It's a nice excuse, but I'm not buying.
You know, if you talked about Geordi like this, on the grounds that he's black  and  you had a problem with black authority figures, you'd be slaughtered as
a bigot, and rightly so.  This isn't much different.  So grab a crowbar and
pry open your minds, you women-fearing morons.


Cathy		I love e-mail, so go ahead, make my day.
From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Crosby as Spot was RE: Fistful of Datas
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:03:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <BxxDH7.HKL@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, sager@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Brian) writes:
>    We too are curious who Denise Crosby played.  We didn't see her either;
> so please, do tell!


Others have asked this question too, so I will tell.  If it had been just you
I wouldn't have bothered as you guys are idiots.


My Denise Crosby comment is based on Jonathan Frakes' joke that since the
old Spot died, there would be a new Spot played by Denise Crosby, and once
again, she was all over Data.
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From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "The Quality of Life"
Keywords: TNG, Data, machine life?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:12:39 GMT

tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:


>--Just how complicated, in TNG's time, can something be before it can no 
>longer be replicated?  So far as we know, living tissue can't; yet life and 
>intelligence are kept intact in the transporter (barring the 
>every-third-episode accident, of course).  Could a virus?  A bacterium?  A 
>protozoan?  A multicellular animal?  An exocomp?  

    My understanding was that the difference between replicators and
transporters is that replicators don't have the high resolution required
to store the sub-atomic patterns required for life.  Don't have my ST:TNG
Technical Reference Manual with me at work (some trekkie I am! :)) so I
don't know the lingo they used, but that's the gist of it.  Hence,
machines and completely inanimate objects (even Data?  Hmm...) can be
replicated, but even one-celled animals can't.

--
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From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Subject: Re: Quality of Life (spoilers)-data
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:17:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.020645.10281@midway.uchicago.edu> airn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>Data should be shot.  Who is in charge of the Enterprise, is there a chain
>>of command or not?!  Riker's credibility as a commanding officer hs surely
>>been lost.  What happens if every bridge officer in Starfleet starts 
>>disobeying orders like that?  Well of course it's only a TV show, but this 
>>constant Data Mutiny is wearing thin.
>Hear, hear. Officers should not be excused from following orders just because
>they personally are uncomfortable. If it's not a clear-cut case, that everyone
>in their right minds would agree on, of someone giving an immoral order, they
>should obey first and ask questions later. 

	Such things don't exist in the real world.

	Glad you folks aren't in either the military OR the police. Of course,
there ARE some positions open in the Third World....





-- 
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Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
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with the cast of a musical revue."
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From: stdeprie@eos.ncsu.edu (SHAWN TEMPLE DEPRIEST)
Subject: Re: ***Spoiler*** Comments on "A Fistful of Datas"
Originator: stdeprie@c00361-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: stdeprie@eos.ncsu.edu (SHAWN TEMPLE DEPRIEST)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:30:52 GMT


>ARRRGGGGHHH!  That accent was the worst thing in the show.  I have never
>heard an accent like that on any western I've ever watched.
>
>Are there any western fans out there who liked Marina's accent?
>[...]
>-- 

I'm not a super-keen western fan, but I must admit that this was probably
the only show I can recall having actually not cursed Troi's appearence...
normally she irritates me to death with Captain I am sensing blah blah blah. 
Those leather pants were nice to.  :-)
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From: dsy@psych.toronto.edu (Desiree Sy)
Subject: Re: STNG cast on stage?
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:12:28 GMT

In article <Bxw0J3.G47@news.cso.uiuc.edu> eak56063@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (D I S I N T E G R A T I O N) writes:
>"Every Good Boy Deserves Favor"
>a play for actors and orchestra
>created by: tom stoppard
>	    andre previn
>directed by: patrick stewart
>(picture of frakes, spiner, and stewart)

>any comments? ideas? i think, if it were a show/musical, it would be 
>a great experience to see....

Not a musical, but a very wonderful play (as previously noted) by
Tom Stoppard, who also wrote ROSENCRANTZ AND GUILDENSTERN ARE
DEAD and HAPGOOD, among others.

I'd go if I were in the area....

-desiree
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From: S106495@UMRVMA.umr.edu
Subject: Subject: thanks
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:47:20 GMT
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla

Thanks to whomever thought up the spoiler warnings.  Even the tv show
promos    tend to put a dampener on suspense.  It's good to see someone
has respect for   good old fashioned suspense
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From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Subject: Re: Amusing Season 6 errors (None posted previously)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:19:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.105307.12408@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
>
>  A friend of mine and I just watched every episode of Season 6 (all in one
>  sitting.  Do we get the masochists award yet? ;) and found some amusing er-
>  rors we thought y'all would like to hear about.
>
> ...
>
>  And a continuity observation from "Time's Arrow II" to "Fistfull of Datas":
>  Troi talks about smoking with Samuel Clemens (Troi: (distastefully) "I
>  wouldn't know." [referring to Havana Cigars]).  It just struck me as odd that
>  she is quite obviously comfortable with smoking (and not a little proficient
>  at it) a mere few episodes later.  Perhaps Clemens sold her on the idea? :)

My personal opinion on the smoking scene is this.  In the 24th
century, they have developed a tobacco substitute, akin to synthehol.
They call it -- oh, I don't know -- synthebacco.  It has all the
"enjoyable" effects of tobacco, without the cancer and other physical
problems.  That explains how these people smoke these things on the
holodeck.  They do it just for the ambience.  Perhaps there is even a
synthebacco lite, which doesn't even have a taste.  It just LOOKS
authentic.

Joe
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From: schamber@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Sylvain Chamberland)
Subject: Re: Picard's accent
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:17:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.025126.11039@iitmax.iit.edu> thsspxh@iitmax.iit.edu (Patrick HURT) writes:
>In article <menery.722295630@anthem.gn7cg.osd.mil> menery@anthem.gn7cg.osd.mil
> ( Ristonofer) writes:
>>Actually, JL Picard is speaking "new" French, which is English.  It is well-
>>known that England conquers France sometime in the late 21st century, but keeps
>>them as a quaint wine-making colony.  (Source:  The episode with Picard's
>>brother and the stupid little Cockney kid.)
>
>Then this would explain his heavy english acccent when he attemps
>to speak French. For a French (like myself), it is pretty amusing
>to hear Picard saying stuff like "Maman", "Merde!" and so on, but 
>I still find it rather disturbing and artificial that he has such
>a strong English accent in French. 

Come on, Patrick, it does not make any difference to the people the show
is made for!  ;-)

But he said "merde" only a couple of times, in the first season only. I
wish the writers would have kept up with that. I was laughing so much when
he said that in "The Last Outpost"...
I guess they don't know or understand that "merde" in French does not have
the "strenght" the English counterpart has...  remember, it's supposed to
be a family show...  ;-)

>But you have to give them ST writers credit. They even looked up
>the songs that children sing, like "Frere Jacques" in that episode 
>where Picard is stuck in the turbolift with the kids, "Au clair de 

"Disaster".

>la Lune" on the flute in the one where he lives a life with a wife
>in 5 minutes of unconciousness, and more that I can't remember. (
>sorry but I don't recall any of the episode titles...)

"The Inner Light".

>Patrick Hurt
>patrick@ir260a.iit.edu

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