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From: kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan)
Subject: Re: Attention lucid dreamers, help wanted.
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:52:55 GMT

-andrea



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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan)
Subject: Re: dying in dreams
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:38:46 GMT

In article <1992Mar30.005905.24316@cs.rose-hulman.edu> nuxollam@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Template Account) writes:
>In article <LFuPHB4w164w@netlink.cts.com> jdriver@netlink.cts.com (John  
>Driver) writes:
>> 
>>         I've heard that you can't die in your own dreams, or else  
>(guess).  
>> I had a dream that I was cut in half at the waist by the Grim Reaper.  I  
>was 
>> watching in the third person as it happened.  Anyone else die in dreams?   
>I 
>> assumed that I died, btw.
>> 
You can't assume that you died, in dreams anything is possible; but you
obviously feel threatened by something.

>When I was ten (eleven?), I had a recurring dream where I was strapped to  
>a large chopping block like those big paper cutter things that cut  
>straight edges.  Like all my death dreams I would awake at the last  
>second.  I don't remember dreams well but this one's still vivid.

Not enough information on this one.
-andrea



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If only GOD would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit
in my name at a Swiss bank...
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Poetry conceived while dreaming.
From: filippi1@husc9.harvard.edu (David Filippi)
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:55:57 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

The other day I woke up from an afternoon nap with two stanzas of a fairly
involved non-rhyming poem in my head, sort of "visible" but fading rapidly.

I switched on my Mac and entered as much as possible, then finished the
poem with my conscious mind... it's not a great poem, but it's sort of 
interesting.

Has this ever happened to anyone else?

I'll e-mail a copy of the poem if people are interested.

--Dave 
(filippi1@husc.harvard.edu)


Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 14:32:52 -0400 
From: David O Hunt <dh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Reading in Dreams

I've read (somewhere) that it's impossible to read writing in dreams, yet I've
been able to.

Any comments...




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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan)
Subject: Re: Snakes - explanation?
Summary: hmmmm
Keywords: snakes interpretation
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:53:34 GMT

Vicki's dream, the one where she is annoyed at all the snakes, seems almost
like an annoyed at people (crowds) stress maybe from school or work kind
of a dream. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with your real fear of snakes
unless it's just like another negative symbol.

Amy's dream suggests more the child-afraid-of-monsters kind of dream. These
usually occur when the child has suffered some real life kind of stress.
You don't link any sort of significant real life event or circumstances
so it's really hard to tell.

-if you feel that this is inaccurate then maybe describe more of your 
feelings before, during, and after your dreams if possible, and any other
dreams that come to mind when you think of the snake one.

-Andrea



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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
From: r9h@nutmeg.cs.ntu.edu.au (Rohan aka Ecto)
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:35:28 +0900
Distribution: world
Organization: Information Technology, Northern Territory University
Keywords: Thank you!

Thank you ever so much all who replied, and those who replied but where
horribly bounced by the network :)

I actually translated the quote to being :

'Do not judge someone by the consequences of their actions'

And this has seemed to be the general affirmation.  Jan made an interesting
point noting that It is important not only that I know what it means, but
how it reflects to how I was feeling at the time, internally and externally.
Unfortunately, the dream was dreamt quite a while ago, and I have no recal of
how I felt back then, but I'm sure it was relevant! :)

Anyhow, thanks again to all those who replied, and I hope my little quote made
someones week.  Maybe it might go down in the history books, and in the future
people will open up their fortune cookies to find its relevation within!
Who knows what dreams might predict.

Dream on!

Rohan
From: young@smtc21.engr.scarolina.edu (Sarah Young)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: DreamLight(tm)
Date: 3 Apr 92 19:19:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: usceast.1992Apr3.191919.8210
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science

browntf@seq.uncwil.edu (brown todd f) writes:

[...a nice description of the dream light...]

>The device isn't cheap - retail $1200, but for the lucid dreamer
>who recognizes the unlimited potential of this marvelous state of
>consciousness - the DreamLight is definitely the "state of the art"
>in lucid dream induction technology.  I'm thrilled that I have one!

Thanks for the description - it sounds like a marvelous device.
Now I need a little more help - what do you mean by "unlimited potential
of this marvelous state of consciousness"?  What are you achieving
from being lucid, that is so important to you?

Again, thanks for replying.  Your explanations are clear and helpful!

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From: 92dms@vax.cc.williams.edu (Bat Rastard)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:50:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax.8APR199223504870
Organization: Williams College Center for Computing
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <kdsnlIa00UzxA4GGBM@andrew.cmu.edu>, dh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu (David O Hunt) writes...
>I've read (somewhere) that it's impossible to read writing in dreams, yet I've
>been able to.
> 
>Any comments...
> 
Well, it's not exaclt impossible, but what happens is that the writing changes. 
If you remember, try reading something during a dream, looking away for a 
second, and then re-reading it.  More often than not, (possibly always, I'm not 
really certain on this point), the writing will have changed.  In fact, this is 
one of the recommended methods of reality-checking during an experience you 
suspect is a dream.  Every time I've remembered to try it during a dream, the 
writing HAS changed.
From: csz55@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Christopher Wrigley)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Do dreams hurt?
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:54:36 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

From article <1992Apr> (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor):

> up saying something like "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA", for I had just
given a
> good solid elbow to the windowsill by my bed.  Damn did that hurt!

> Ps.  I have noticed before that I do things in my sleep, but it is
hard to
> observe because you must *wake up* while doing them.

I find this very interesting. Now, it seems to me that you interpreted a
blow to the _head_. You woke up and found you hit the _windowsill.
Hmmmn, this got me thinking.  Now, if you had hit the _pillow, instead..
would the dream have interpreted that as.... the stomach, say?
It opens up an interesting observation. No doubt, you would have woken
up as soon as your elbow hit the windowsill... but the image left
in your brain was most certainly a picture of hitting a head. BUT, if
you immediately woke up, how could the image of the hitting his _head
be part of the dream? Is it possible the the dream continues on even
after you are most definitely awake?

                Chris
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right to keep the
University of Keele, England      secrets of their hearts from you?"
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From: NACHTMANN@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (NACHTMANN PETER)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: This is a test
Date: 3 Apr 92 13:06:23 GMT
Organization: University of Ulm, FRG
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21


I dream of reading this letter in the NEWS.
From: mayor@ic17.umeeng (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: physical action while asleep
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:15:51 GMT
Reply-To: mayor@ic17.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems


  This is a bit of a followup to my other note about doing things
while sleeping.  The sequencing is a bit strange, but I'll do it
in the order of my realization :)

  I have a plaque that is mounted on my bedroom wall, near the foot
of my bed.  One fine morning I woke up and had a shower, etc.  When
I returned to my bedroom I noticed that my plaque was NOT on the
wall.  I looked around briefly and found it sitting on the chair 
beside the foot of my bed.
  Then it all came back to me...
  I remember this as is I were awake, but I am confident that I was
NOT awake when this happened.  This is because of the nature of how
my thought processes were going at the time.  Anyway, I remembered
"realizing" that I was scrunched up at the foot of my bed muttering
in a semi-spooky/crazy way that "I gotta get it off...I gotta get it
off."  While I was muttering this, I was trying to pull the plaque
off the wall.  At one point, I got really crazed, and tore the plaque,
nails and all, off the wall.  Once it was off, I gently laid it on
the chair and lay down back to sleep. 
   I did not remember any of this until I saw this plaque off the wall,
and if it were not for the explicit physical evidence, I would have 
considered the whole thing a dream.  I have NO idea why I wanted it
off the wall, or what the related dream was, but my "realization" of
what I was doing started while I was already trying to take it off the
wall.  I had started that while fully asleep.

  This particular case has always kinda spooked me.

cam.

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From: scandal@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov 
Subject: Message in a dream
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 13 Apr 1992 15:27 EST  

My girlfriend was telling me that she had this very scary dream about a 
spirit trying to contact her.  At first she thought the spirit was evil and 
wanted to stay away from it. But something drew her towards it and let her 
know it was O.K.

The spirit spelled out  P A L E O S E  .  My friend never heard of that 
name before.  She woke up frightened and went to the dictionary.  She 
looked up PALEOSE which was a name of a greek god.

She was very afraid after that dream, to her it was real, like some spirit 
was trying to tell her something.  

Any ideas???

Renee

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: std_freemanb@hg.uleth.ca
Subject: Active Dreamers
Reply-To: std_freemanb@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:42:43 GMT

Hi.  I'm new to this group but find much of the conversation interesting.

Several years ago while camping in a motorhome I had a really bizzare dream.
It was like a war movie, shells & missles coming in from above.  While asleep,
I jumped through the rear window of the camper, and, as it wasn't 
safety glass, cut myself fairly badly in the process.  I was told in the 
hospital that some dreams can be extremely vivid.  I am prone to both sleep-
talk and walk.  I would be interested in corresponding (by e-mail)
with others that have had similiar experiences.

Bruce F.
From: ashbaugh@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lisa Ashbaugh)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: LUCKY DREAM?
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:09:06 GMT
Reply-To: ashbaugh@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lisa Ashbaugh)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I have an interesting dream to share.  Actually just an experience that
the dream caused. The dream occurred a quite a few years back.  Anyway
I was at a hotel near some ocean for the summer and for some reason 
the door number which was 243 stood out in the dream.  I told my parents 
about the number the next day and my father who was in to playing the 
lottery at the time played the number and it came out straight that 
night.  That was one weird experience and I have never been able
to dream a number that stood out like that again!!


Lisa Fisher
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: grs01153@stat.appstate.edu
Subject: more bad dreams about loved ones
Organization: Appalachian State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:10:18 GMT

OK guys, It happened again....
This weekend I had terible dreams aboutmy boyfriend...but this only happens
when I sleep naked..the obvious solution is to quit sleeping naked...

These dreams are so weird..in one, he was using fruit to beat me, in the other
he took another girl home with him and called to tell me how much he was in
love with her, I went back to my ex-boyfriend, my current boyfriend offered to
buy me a diamond and then I woke up....


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From: Kathy.Baird@f502.n105.z1.therose.fidonet.org (Kathy Baird)
Sender: postmaster@therose.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: hey...
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 19:16:27 -0700

 KN> Your doc's suggestions sound pretty good, and I hope you are 
 KN> able to implement at least some of them...it's tough.  Will 
 KN> keep you in my prayers. 

Karol....thanks for your post....and for your prayers.  I think I'm 
doing a little better, for now....

My "assignment" is giving me a little difficulty, tho....he wants me 
to list what relaxes me, what gives me pleasure, and how I can, 
realistically, incorporate that into my days......I feel sorta stupid 
that I don't know these things and have to think so hard, but guess 
that is all the more reason I need to do them, cuz they obviously 
aren't a part of my day.....thus the stress, thus the chest pain...

Seems as tho the things that gave me pleasure in the past all related 
to caring and caretaking, which is not what he is talking about.  So 
you see, I have my work cut out for me......

Thanks again....here's a hug ((((((K))))))

Kat

... Life is just a bowl of cherries!
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 11:16:50 CET
From: <PREGAN1@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Macbeth

I wonder if anyone could suggest an interpretation of a rather extraordinary
lucid dream which occurred a couple of nights ago ?

I found myself being involved with a theatre group who wanted to stage
a professional version of Macbeth . I was enlisted as playing Macbeth
himself . Fine , I thought as I stared to pysche myself up for the part,
out,out, brief candle , and all that ...

Then I realised that the play was schedlued in four days time and was
rather distressed at the prospect of learning all the lines for Macbeth
in four days time , however I managed to console myself with the fact
that I could always improvise , or at least conceal some aide de memoirs
around the stage set . My final recollections was that of visting the
theatre whre we would enact the play , and being impressed by its Victorian
interior and a splendid harpsichord .

I was then awoken by the sound of a rather violent storm brewing outside ,
which I must admit , waking up from such a dream with a supernatural subject
in pitch darkness in four at the morning produced a rather special atmosphere ,
as you could imagine ! (Alas I was never to return to the satge in my dream ).


Finally I should point out I have no theatrical connections , and my only
connection with Macbeth is that I am also Scottish ...


Phil Regan | European Space Agency | Germany

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: dgerke@IMD.Sterling.COM (Deb Gerke)
Subject: Need book on dream interpretation.
Organization: Sterling Software, IMD
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 13:47:23 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 8ca6c7021287f6f741681439e4a65ebd



	Can anyone give me a good book title on dream interpretation?

	I have been dreaming of writing a letter to my father saying I
want to be with him, but the kicker is that he has been dead for 4 years
and I have no desire to die right now. 

	Thanks for listening.

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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: mayor@ic14.umeeng (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor)
Subject: Re: Curious but hesitant
Reply-To: mayor@ic14.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:24:37 GMT

In article 26538@cco.caltech.edu, gretchen@cco.caltech.edu (Gretchen Millendore) writes:
>Hello, I've just recently started reading "alt.dreams" and I'm enjoying it
>very much.  I myself haven't paid much attention to my dreams lately,
>waking up to the horrid combination of my alarm clock the snooze button.  By

Bah! Those things are evil!  Sent by aliens!

>the time I finally get out of bed to stumble off into the work day, I've
>forgotten any tidbits of my dreams that I might have actually had a grasp on.
>I was thinking of starting a "dream journal" to record my dreams because I've
>heard that in this way one can actually train one's mind to remember more
>and more of what was dreamt; I would like to start exploring my own dream
>world.  I'm hesistant, however, because I wonder if my normal waking conditions
>will affect the part of the dream I remember.  Will the buzzing alarm, which
>my mind begrudgingly associates with an day of work, cloud my perception and
>cover over other parts of my dream?

I find that being rudely awakened in the middle of my R.E.M. sleep creates a
good point from which to remember dreams, because i was just in them.  On the
other hand, sometimes I am disrupted from the dream and cast back into reality
too fast, forgetting all about the dream.

cam.

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From: 7741cs17@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (SILICON VULTURE)
Subject: Re: Using Dreams
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
X-Lunar-Date: 3 days, 6 hours, 38 minutes since the first quarter of the moon
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:04:00 GMT

In article <sf0gkINNcds@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM>, debrag@mattys.EBay.Sun.COM
writes...

>I am a recovering Drug Addict, and everytime I try and
>quit smoking(in real life), I have bad using dreams,
>where I would actually relapse and use speed or Cocaine.
>I really want to quit smoking, but I've used these
>dreams in the past as an excuse not to quit. When i smoke,
>once in a while I will have a dream that someone will
>offer me drugs, but I turn it down. But when I try to quit
>smoking, I have these dreams where I don't even care or
>think about recovery, I just go for the drugs and worry
>about it after the fact. This morning when I awoke, I was
>almost convinced that I had relapsed. That is how vivid
>this dream was. Please reply.

I would like to reassure you that just because you DREAM that you do
something doesn't mean you can't prevent yourself from doing it in
real life.

Example:  My dreams are pretty violent.  This is probably because of
the environment I grew up in.  In my dreams I frequently fight and
kill/injure people that deserve it.  This doesn't bother me.  I have
also had a couple dreams where I have attacked/killed someone who was
completely innocent and undeserving of this kind of fate.  Naturally,
I felt wretched afterwards.  Despite this, I have not been violent in
real life in any sense.  I am very much in control of my temper and
my actions, even when I've been drinking.  I would say that you probably
would NOT relapse ESPECIALLY since this idea revolts you in real life.
Relapsing is something that you need to be concerned about, but I don't
think that your subconcious is telling you that you that you are
particularly susceptible to it.

I hope this helps.

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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: jdean@galaxy.afit.af.mil (Jeffrey S. Dean)
Subject: Brief lucidity
Summary: Two brief lucid dreams
Keywords: lucid
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:40:39 GMT
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

I had two very brief lucid dreams lately, and seem to be having a problem
maintaining the dream while I am in it.  In the first dream I was trying to
get a soda machine to yield the soda I had paid for.  After banging and 
thumping it, it lit up and made a series of noises.  I said to myself the
thing was going apesh*t and viola!, out popped a can of apesh*t soda.  At that
point I realized that I must be dreaming.  I think I over-reacted in that I
was elated to be having a lucid dream, and promptly woke up.  The second dream 
I realized I must be dreaming while flying.  Again, the exhilaration of that
realization quickly caused the dream to "grey out", and I lost it too.

While I have your attention, the April 92 Scientific American has an interestingarticle on the phenomenon of phantom limbs and senses, i.e. the sensations one
receives from lost limbs or sense organs.  The conclusion was that within the
brain there is a "neuromatrix" that we are born with.  It determines what we
identify as part of us, and all our sensory input is filtered by it.  When a
limb or sense is lost, the matrix will fire nerve impulses spontaneously, which
we perceive as pain, touch, an image that is not there, or a melody, depending 
on whether we lost a limb, our sight, or our hearing.  Now why is he babbling 
about this, you say?  When we fall asleep our sensory input becomes minimal, 
and our mind, or neuromatrix, makes up the deficit with dreams.  I think that 
this phantom limb or phantom sense phenomenon may be the same as the dreams we
experience at night.  Because all our sensory input is attenuated, we supply
all the sensory perceptions we normally have while awake.  This could explain
why some still feel pain after being injured in a dream, because the pain
originated in the brain, not the injured dream body.  If you have the time,
read the article.  It does not mention dreams, that is my own extrapolation.  
How this generates some discussion.

Jeff