From: tmorgan@astro.as.arizona.edu (Tad Morgan)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:15:46 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <+d_1Ho4ki9@atlantis.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
>Yes, I am familiar.  The point is why limit it to "Disney Afternoon"?
>Why exclude other disney discussions?  

Because other Disney discussions are already best handled by rec.arts.disney.

>Another point is that this term
>is misleading and irrelevant.  If you are truely want a group just for
>the 3-5pm time block, call it by its correct term: "after school
>programming."  How about alt.tv.after-school?

Feh, sounds like the ABC after-school specials.  The problem is that there is
no "ideal" name to describe 10 or so shows that fall under/have fell under/will
fall under the Disney Afternoon heading. alt.tv.disney would include everything
from Rescue Rangers to Herby the Love Bug to the opening of EuroDisney. 
alt.fan.disney already exists, see rec.arts.disney 8-).  Perhaps 
alt.tv.disney.animation might be close, although I'm not sure. Even though not
everywhere gets it as the "Disney Afternoon", the distribution in this form is
wide enough that discussion would easily enough gravitate there.  Is
alt.tv.tiny-toon improperly named since that may not be what it's called in 
France?  As for longevity, _any_ fan or tv oriented group risks having it's
subject canceled in the future (just ask a.t.t-t 8-( ) -- that's one of the
reasons for launching such a group as an alt instead of a mainstream one, 
afterall.  Anyway, the DA has been around for a few years (some of it's shows
even longer) and is most certainly going to be around for several more (their
plans I believe go to at least '94, with inital planning for '95 going on).
So I believe that "Disney Afternoon" is probably the best (if imperfect)
description of the programs being discussed.

>>And anything relevent is game for discussion.  If a Disney Afternoon episode
>>has a movie reference in it, then yes, that movie is appropriate for discussion.
>>Even non-DA programming is relevent.
>
>Whoa!  Call the group "disney.afternoon" but things not in Disney
>Afternoon are relevant?

Well, I believe what Stephanie was getting at was the net.police wouldn't
haul you off for speculating if Batman was going to result in poor rating for
Goof Troop or some other DA program, not that it was the place to discuss
Batman as itself (rec.arts.animation would be the defacto place for that).

>>A big topic is how Batman has been
>Oh, but you're not fans of those shows that are not producted by Disney?
>Wait!  You just said that you wanted this group to be open to non-Disney
>shows!  Which is it?  Is this group limited to the 3-5pm time block
>or is it limited to Disney?  You really must decide.  _Then_ you must
>pick the name.

The focus of the group isn't Disney or a timeslot, but a group of shows that
are _usually_ shown as a block and to a limited extent take place in the same
or simular universe(s).  It's not about Disney fanboyism or watching tv in the
afternoon (gee, since I watch my tapes at midnight does that mean I couldn't
post?).  "Disney Afternoon" is just the most convient name for those interested
in the shows.  Isn't that who should choose what it's called anyway, the people
interested in the group and not those just interested in the net's namespace?

In article <XE4JDU1@taronga.com> arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>You people have convinced me that there is a need for groups for
>people who want to talk about Disney things other than the Disney
>Afternoon.  So I've come up with some potential groups and groupnames.
>The charters should be self-explanatory:
>
>alt.disney.misc
>alt.disney.land
>alt.disney.world
>...
>Any comments or suggestions are welcome.

Now Stephanie, take your tougue out of your cheek before it gets stuck there.
8-)  Actually a few of those almost sound useful...

Actually my only qibble name-wise is fan vs. tv.  TV is the primary medium of
the programs, especially since Disney's been dropping the comics side (have
they not?).  And I never have seen much complaint of discussing the merchandise
side of a program in other groups -- imagine if all such discussion were 
banned from the Star Trek or Tiny Toon groups!

Anyway, I see no reason to rmgroup it and renaming it doesn't seem to be worth
the effort for such a trivial matter.

Tad (alt.fan.gadget...<humm>)
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