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From: zchen@phys.ksu.edu (Zheng Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Phone number of Columbia House CD Club?
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:59:53 GMT
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Can somebody tell me the phone number of Columbia House CD Club? I just
joined the club but got something screwed up. So I need to talk to the
reps of CHCDC. Thanks


Zheng Chen
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From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Hi Fi VCR for taping audio FM? (Re: A Timer/Recorder for AM/FM Radio?)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:09:11 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <By6E5C.9J4@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>Some questions for you Hi Fi VCR users out there:

>1) Is recording in SLP (or whatever its called - 6 hours on a "120" 
>   tape) OK for good audio? I'm not out for CD quality here.. just 
>   120 minute cassette off-the-air FM quality.

I have only ever had a few glitches in taping things with hi-fi, and
only one was during a music concert.  It behaves like FM radio (like
you might expect, given how it's in there) - it's either very good or
breaks up quite quickly, whatever the tape speed.  If it's something
you're time-shifting, use the slowest speed.  If you want to keep it,
you might want to use the fastest.

>2) How important is auto-tracking? The Samsung doesn't have it; a 
>   Sony that cost perhaps another $13 had it, but the Samsung had 
>   an "index search" feature so I bought it. I fiddled with the 
>   tracking but couldn't discern a difference. 

I don't really know if auto-tracking makes a difference, but I use
index searching almost every day.  I'd have made your choice.

You'll have to give us a followup on the Samsung.  Is that the one
that can be had for somewhere around $300?

Rob T
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From: rsd@sei.cmu.edu (Richard S D'Ippolito)
Subject: Re: Cable Design Proposal
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:59:30 GMT


In article <19328@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, Thomas W. Matthews writes:

|> If the interconnect is one meter long and has a propagation
|> velocity (is that the right term?) one-quarter the speed of
|> light, ten round-trip bounces (20 meters distance) would take 
|> 267 nanoseconds.  

FYI, common conductors have propagation velocities of greater than 0.9c.

Rich
From: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Are Record Club CD's The Same Quality?
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:02:11 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Admittedly, I know very little about the business of setting up
a CD plant, but it seems you can cut costs... this may entail
not meeting the standards for CD manufacture, though. For example,
a "sort of clean" clean room is probably cheaper than a "really
clean" one. Then there's the quality of the materials used for
the substrate, plastic, and inks. Surely there are different levels
of CD quality -- I can't believe that all the CDs which come out
of the plant are good. A certain percentage must be below spec.
You can save money by not worrying about quality control...

-Ralph

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From: kosts@ursa.calvin.edu (Steven Koster)
Subject: Re: Hi Fi VCR for taping audio FM? (Re: A Timer/Recorder for AM/FM Radio?)
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:35:42 GMT

ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

> kosts writes:

>>	Tracking, I believe, is an adjustment to align your video
>>	heads to the video tracks. If you have snow on your picture,
>>	it may be because the heads aren't scanning the video tracks 
>>	in their entirty. So, if you use the tracking adjustment to 
>>	align the heads closer to the tracks, you may eliminate the snow.

>Ah.. so its only "foreign tapes" you'd be worried about? And it's 
>never important during recording right?

I wouldn;t ever say never, but essentially, as I understand it, yes.
Tracking is mostly a fine tuner for playback.

And again, I expect that hi-fi audio on SLP video tape
is an excellent archival method for these shows.

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From: robert@odysey.cray.com (Robert Larsen (Cray Research (UK) Ltd))
Subject: Re: Difference between Sony TAE-1000ES and TAE-2000ES
Reply-To: robert@odysey.cray.com (Robert Larsen (Cray Research (UK) Ltd))
Organization: Cray Research (UK) Ltd
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:32:00 CST


In article <PCW.92Nov13181913@flutter.tv.tek.com>, pcw@flutter.tv.tek.com
(Patrick C. Wilkins) writes:

|>Hello netlanders,
|>has anyone evaluated the Yamaha DSP-A1000 with respect to surround decoding
|>while adding acoustic compensation via the DSP. I recently listened to 
|>a demonstration comparing the Yamaha RX-V1050 5-channel Pro-logic receiver
|>and the DSP-A1000 7-channel with acoustic compensation (DSP) at a finer 
|>stereo store. The source material was a short section of movie track which 
|>contained, dialog, orchestra, and various effects. The difference between 
|>the material through just the Pro-logic decoding (RX-V1050) and Pro-logic 
|>with DSP (DSP-A1000) was dramatic. The DSP-A1000 had a much larger sound-
|>stage yet the dialog was very well centered and easier to localize that
|>with the RX-V1050. Unless the demostration is a carefully contrived
|>promotion for the DSP-A1000, I think the DSP-A1000 is well worth the 
|>additional money just for movie tracks. Comments about or personal 
|>experience with these products?

Well, I own an A1000, and the combination of Pro Logic and DSP (ie. the 
addition of front effects speakers), does add a lot of "ambience" to the front
half of the sound stage.  In other words, the sound above the TV monitor is a
lot more "filled in".  It's difficult to describe, but the best thing to do is
to get a demo.  However, it's important that the front effects speakers are
positioned correctly, ie. wider, above and behind the main speakers.  If they
aren't, they tend to get drowned by the sound from the main pair.

I've had my A1000 now for about 4.5 months, and never regretted buying it once.
It's a superb machine, and the build quality is second to none (it weighs in
at a hefty 20Kg!).

Hope this was useful.....

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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: DCC/MD Ads (was DCC in Radio Shack Flyer!)
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:19:47 GMT

In article <Bxxnn7.6KA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> davidric@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (david  
ricardo) writes:
> Just received my Christmas Radio Shack gift catalog and on the second
> page is a DCC deck for $699. With this kind of marketing push behind
> it I think DCC has a good shot. 

The RS ads in magazines are interesting. At the top of the page they show  
"Analog Compact Cassette 1965" and "Digital Compact Disk 1982" in a rectangle  
with the word EVOLUTIONARY in large bold type between them. Underneath they  
have their less-than-beautiful DCC deck with a DCC tape sitting on top of it,  
under the word REVOLUTIONARY.

Interesting. Either they are attempting to imply that the transition from  
analog cassette to CD was "evolutionary" (huh?) or that compact cassette and CD  
were each evolutionary developments. Hard to understand why DCC is  
"revolutionary" in that (or most any other) context.

Some of the ad copy is pretty frightening too:

"Now enjoy the best of both worlds"

So the best thing about CD is *compressed* digital audio? Huh? And I guess the  
random access time on DCC must be similar to CD. And that the tape will hold up  
as well as a disk to wear. Yep - the "best" of CD...

"Make perfect copies of your CD's..."

Perfect? So lossy compression can create 'perfect' copies?

"...indistinguishable from originals..."

The only person I've seen claim this is Ken Pohlmann in Stereo Review. Every  
other report I've read claims otherwise.

The Phillips ad for DCC (which shows a two-page binary representation of  
'Mysterious Ways' by U2) claims 'crystal clear CD quality', with no mention  
anywhere of a compression scheme, lossy or otherwise.

One person was wondering how DCC could possibly succeed. Ads like this.

By comparison, the Sony ads for MD go into quite a bit of detail about the  
technology, explaining the ATRAC compression scheme in laymen's terms and  
ranking analog cassettes, MD and CD in terms of sound quality. They spell out  
that MD sound is "nearly the same quality as CD". Which they must do in order  
to continue to sell CD of course. Sony does point out however that with  
recordable MD you can change the order of the tracks and add new ones in the  
middle of a track list.




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From: j_adams@fc.hp.com (John Adams)
Subject: Re: ELITIST SNOBS
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:44:04 GMT

BarryB (n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu) wrote:
: OK, DUDEZ, LET ME FIRST STATE THAT I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH
: THE DUDEZ THAT WHO ARE FEED UP WITH THE HIGH-END ELITIST SNOBS
: WHO SIGNON TO THIS BBOARD.  THESE IDIOTS THINK YOU NEED TO
: SPEND A ZILLION DOLLARS ON A SYSTEM TO GET GOOD SOUND.  WELL
: THE JOKES ON THEM!  AND DON'T TELL ME I HAVEN'T HEARD A GOOD
: HIGH-END SYSTEM!  MY FRIEND HAS A $1000 SONY RACK SYSTEM.
: IT HAS BIG MOTHER SPEAKERS WITH 15 INCH WOOFERS THAT REALLY
: VIBRATE THE WHOLE ROOM!  AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF, THESE BABIES
: ARE RATED FOR 500 WATTS!!!  OK, SO DON'T GIVE ME THIS SHIT
: ABOUT NOT KNOWING WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
: 
: TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, MY $200 SOUNDESIGN SYSTEM SOUNDS
: JUST AS GOOD.  THE BASS SOUNDS JUST AS BIG!  THE SECRET
: IS TO ADJUST THE BASS CONTROL TO MAX.  TRY IT ON SOME
: OF THESE CHEAPER SYSTEMS.  IT REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!
: ADJUST THE SYSTEM BEFORE YOU JUDGE!  GEEESH HOW HARD
: CAN IT BE???
: 
: LATER DUDEZ.....

If this "guyz" stereo sounds anything similar to his posting, too loud and
lost in the noise, how could you take him seriously.

John Adams
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From: roggenba@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Todd Roggenbauer)
Subject: Stereo Hummmmmmm
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:51:52 GMT

Hi everyone,

I just recently purchased a Hi-fi VCR to hook up to my stereo.

When I moved my gear downstairs and re-hooked it all up,

I found an annoying humm that is always present.  It doesn't vary

as one changes volume levels.  I have disconnected everything and have

found that the noise still persists. What do you think the problem

could be?   Any easy solutions?  

Thanks in advance for the help,

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From: myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:59:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Digital Amps -> next???
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.audio

> Umm. I'm not so sure on this one. Digital preamps for DAT and CD make a lot
> of sense as the switching, volume control, balance, and special effects
> can all be done in the digital domain. However, one must make the switch-
> over to analog at some point as music is an analog phenomonon. Digital
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I agree with what you're saying here, Paul, but you unfortunately and
unintentionally tripped one of my "hot buttons."  We need to get out of this
habit of referring to what might be called "continuous-wave" phenomena as
"analog."  Music is NOT "analog," although it may certainly be considered
as continuous waveforms.  The very name "analog" comes from "analogous" -
while an analog process will probably be "continuous", the two are NOT
synonyms.  The confusion between these two has led to the common 
misunderstanding that you often see expressed here as "analog record has to
be better, since 'music is analog'!"


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myers@fc.hp.com      |                     - Lazarus Long/Robert A. Heinlein
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From: rkarlqu@scd.hp.com (Richard Karlquist)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Defeating SCMS
Date: 18 Nov 1992 23:18:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Division
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: |>>In article <1992Nov13.185500.20300@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>
: |>>winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) writes:
: |>>
: |>>> The biggest problem is that it soon will be illegal to build or use such
: |>>> devices in the US.  The Home Recording Rights Act is now law.
: |>
: |>So....all this isn't meant to flame anyone, I intent is to just
: |>show that while the HRRA may make a "defeat SCMS" black box
: |>illegal, they'll likely show up anyway.  Heck, they could be sold
: |>to anyone as a "PRO" device.  There's no legal definition as to

Two other possible reasons for SCMS:
*conspiracy theory mode on*

1.  SCMS and the copy guard system that preceeded it (the one with the
3800 Hz. notch filter) were actually Trojan Horses to divert attention
away from the real issue, which is the tape tax.  The RIAA *knows* that
SCMS will not stop anyone but the great unwashed ignoramuses, but they
also know that there is no easy workaround for the tape tax, which is
a Trojan Horse inside a Trojan Horse.  Just like the federal income tax
which started out as 1% tax on income over $10,000 (big time salary in
1913!), we all know the rest of that story.  The RIAA will gradually 
increase the tax the way you cook a frog alive by sloooowly bringing the
water to a boil.  Pretty soon, the tax will be so high, they will actually
encourage people to make copies.  This threshold is only when the tax is
equal to the record company's profit (not the list price) on a CD.

2.  Anyone (especially non-Japanese companies) who tries to compete with
DAT/DCC gets snarled up in government red tape.  Remember that the same
companies who make DAT also own record companies (Sony=CBS, etc.).
Also, it is not clear that some independent record companies who want
to issue prerecorded DAT's will be able to get out of paying the tape 
tax.  If they complain, they will be told that their royalty check from
the Copyright agency that distributes the tax back the copyright holders
will compensate.  Of course, in reality, they will be below the threshold
cutoff and receive nothing.

I think I'll go buy some Sony stock and send a thank you letter to
my Congressman for voting for this bill :-(.

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From: whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: Defeating SCMS
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 20:21:34 GMT

>In article <24192@alice.att.com> ark@alice.UUCP () writes:
>>In article <1992Nov13.185500.20300@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) writes:
>>> The biggest problem is that it soon will be illegal to build or use such
>>> devices in the US.  The Home Recording Rights Act is now law.
>>
>>Or, if I remember correctly, even to talk about how to do it.

Just a question: On what basis would it be illegal to "talk about
how to do it?"

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From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Help!
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:17:23 GMT
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <184333@pyramid.pyramid.com>, lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
> In article <7490250@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers) writes:
> sum1 else >> Could somebody tell me the names of the inventors of:
>>> 
>>> 	The 8-track
>>
>>Don't know.
> 
>   Madman Muntz?  Wasn't it Lear, of LearJet fame?

Lear-Siegler is associated with the 8-track.  I don't know if this has any
connection with LearJets.  

I believe that Earl "Madman" Muntz was the, um, "inventor" of the four-track
car player.  I put "inventor" in quotes because the cartridges and players used
essentially the same mechanisms as the ones the radio broadcast industry had
been using for years.  These units were never very popular outside of
California, maybe just Southern California, but here they had a thriving
business for a while. 

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From: bobsoron@world.std.com (Bob Soron)
Subject: Surround Sound -- Front-to-Back ratios?
Followup-To: rec.audio
Keywords: Surround Sound Pro Logic
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:15:55 GMT

I'm in the market for a Pro Logic receiver. I know I need to check that
the center channel is the same as the two rear channels. But there's a
wide disparity among the front-to-back output of these things. Some of
them are 100/100/10/10/10, and some are 80/80/20/20/20. I gather that would
be a noticeable difference. 

Obviously, there's a lot of other factors, like the room size (pretty
small in this case, perhaps 9' x 12'), but I'm wondering what's better
in the general case -- a smaller or larger ratio?

Thanks for any & all info. If anyone out there owns one of these suckers
and wants to contribute reviews, I'm Ross Perot. :-) My budget's around
$400.

Bob
bobsoron@world.std.com
"With Velcro, gravity is obsolete" -- Mister Boffo

From: myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:24:13 GMT
Subject: Re: The end of cassettes,   was...Re: So? Anyone have dcc yet?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.audio


Whoa, folks!  I am NOT saying that cassettes WILL necessarily go the
way of the 8-track; just giving an example of a medium that DID essentially
vanish overnight.  A better analogy might be the LP - vinyl is taking a little
longer to leave, but does anyone doubt that its days ARE numbered, like it
or not?



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                     |                        - Winston Churchill
From: mdtanx@cs.umd.edu (Michael D. Tan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: FOR SALE: Stereophile Issues 10/90,2/91-12/91
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:43:06 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
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 FOR SALE: Stereophile Issues 10/90,2/91-12/91
 
 
 I'm selling the issues together, so please do not request
 single issues.  I am only asking for a minimum bid of
 $10 + shipping and handling for all 12 issues (includes 
 three of the bi-annual equipment reviews).  



I posted this and forgot to mention that the
issues are in MINT condition (still in the
opened plastic bags, only slightly altered
by change in humidity).  Just the kind of
detail high-enders need to know.

For those of you who have already sent mail, please reconfirm and
send the amount that you are willing to offer.

Please respond by email.

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From: henrylin@phoenix.princeton.edu (Henry Hung-i Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: need opinions on Quad405
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:50:44 GMT
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Does anyone out there own (or has owned or knows about) a Quad405 amp? It was
last made around 1984 or so and is rated at 100wpc. A used shop I occasionally
buy from has it listed at $460 used. Any thoughts? I'm currently using a Sumo
Ulysses. They'll probably be used to drive either Maggie SMGs, Vandersteen 1Bs,
Snell Type K/IIs, or Signet SL260s. Are there any speakers that the Quad
is particularly good at driving? Please mail replies to me at:
henrylin@phoenix.princeton.edu. Thanks...

					henri