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From: purp@wixer.cactus.org (Jim Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Now I did it, Epilogue
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:08:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: wixer.1992Aug28.150844.2606
Organization: Real/Time Communications

In article <1992Aug27.232028.9168@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> 
    papo@pyuxf.uucp (25241-anaya) writes:
>Hi  netters:
>
>I actually fixed the drive of the Lisa/2.  Thanks for all the replies.
>I received none.  Anyway... I have yet another utter novice question.

Congratulations on fixing your drive! Now, if next time you'll allow
more than nine hours between your post of trouble and your post of "Gee,
thanks, guys," I bet you'll find you get a better response. I know that
on my system both your report of trouble and this epilog came in the
same batch of messages.

I find that with trouble reports on the net, two to three days is about
the right time to gather a good sampling of opinions/solutions.

>Are those serial ports in the Lisa/2 normal vanilla RS-232 ports
>that I can use a normal IBM 25D-25D cable to connect it to a printer
>or a Modem or I have to buy an special one?????

Don't quote me on this, as it's been about 10 years since I looked at
the spec sheets, but I believe so.

--Purp, having a good day so far.
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From: hapa@cats.ucsc.edu (Doug Easterly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Railgun 030/Novy Imagepro woes!
Date: 3 Sep 1992 16:14:20 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsco.ucsc.edu


I recently purchased a Novy ImagePro from MacProducts, 
the one they call the "Railgun," and have installed
it on my SE FDHD. I love the speed and the 19" display
it gives me, but it does seem to have one bug. My 
Superdrive seems unwilling to recognize about 50% of
800k floppies I insert while it is in 68030 mode. If I
go to 68000 mode, it recognizes these disks just fine....
I have reinstalled my System, the Systech software,
System 7 Tune-up, rebuilt the desktop, zapped the PRAM,
checked for conflicts from all my INITs and my CDEVs,
opened up my Mac and checked the cabling, and none of
this has made this damned thing read disks. It won't even
read these 800k disks from an EXTERNAL floppy drive.

Has anyone had these problems? Does anyone have a solution?
If not, at least consider this a warning to potential buyers.

FYI I am running system 7.01, Tuneup 1.1.1, Systech software 2.5
and their 7 patch. Is there a newer Systech INIT and CDEV?

Other than this one problem, I have been satisfied with
the board's performance. But I have a hard time with not being
able to format or read 800k floppies.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Manning)
Subject: What would YOU pay for...
Summary: for sale
Keywords: used Macintoshes
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:53:56 GMT

I've got the opportunity to sell quite a few Macintosh systems, but since
everyone on USENET seems to have an opinion anyway, I thought I'd bring up the
matter before I even see the merchandise.

So, potentially for sale, are at least 20 of the following systems:

	Macintosh IIcx with eight (8) megabytes of RAM, keyboard, mouse,
	40, 80, 105 megabyte hard drive, Rasterops 8-bit video card, and
	Rasterops 19" color monitor.

These components would not be sold separately, only as complete systems. So
I'll ask, what would you pay for any one of the above?

Please, no "I'll give you a dollar" or "I can get a new IIci at educational
pricing for <blah>." I don't need the extra mail. However, if you've got some
good input to provide, please do so!

Thanks,
Dave

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From: gabrieli_d@apollo.hp.com (David Gabrieli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple ADB Keyboard ??
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:46:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA
Originator: gabrieli_d@ferrari

Greetings:

Does anybody out there know where I can get my hands on
an Apple ADB Keyboard??  I don't like the new Apple Keyboard
II which comes with the LCs & Classics...too mushy!  I've
tried Mac Sale Int., Boston Computer Exchange, etc.  As long
as it's in decent condition, I'll take it.

Any help is appreciated.

Dave

gabrieli_d@apollo.hp.com
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: To wait or not to wait - that is the question!
Date: 27 Aug 1992 21:03:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: concertina

In article <1992Aug27.160653.29633@alias.com> jboritz@alias.com (Jim Boritz) writes:
>
>For example, consider the Powerbook 100 and how its recent dumping at Price
>Clubs is bad for anyone that bought one a year ago and great for someone
>buying today.  

Other than reducing the amount that one could get on selling a used machine,
how does it hurt the old-time PB100 owner.  I'm not going to buy emotional
issues, and the machine doesn't function any differently.

It cetainly doesn't affect the functionality of the machine...



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From: raoul@fangio.wa.com (Jeff Benedict)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: What's a Mac 512 good for these days?
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 10:39:58 PDT
Organization: J. Benedict Computing, Port Townsend, WA.

hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs) writes:

> cooneys@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> 
> >I may have a chance to buy an ancient Mac 512. My idea is to use it in my
> >office as a terminal linked to the mainframe and as a complement to the Quad
> >700 I have at home. 
> 
> >Does this make sense? (I realize I'll have to use an older OS on the 512.) W
> >files be interchangeable if I use an 800 k floppy?

I say go for it.  If all you need is a terminal and are not doing and 
"computing" on the 512- why not????

Also, many folks thought those were great for word processing, light DB, 
etc.  That ability hasn't gone away! Get some older software (look in the 
bottom of those drawers!!) and use it!
> 
> >And about how much is an old 512 worth these days?
> 
> You won't be able to use an 800k floppy on a Fat Mac.  OTOH, if it's a
> 512Ke, that's another story.

If your work will fit on a 400K floppy, you could move files that way- the 
Quadra will read 'em!

> 
> How much is it worth?  I wouldn't buy a Fat Mac for money, myself.  Maybe

Really, now, it's value is what kind of work it will do for you.  If it sits 
on your desk and gives you access to a mainframe that you otherwise would 
have to go down the hall to use, then it's worth a whole bunch.

Dollar wise, I wouldn't spend more than $200 if the owner gives you all the 
goodies- 2nd drive, OS, *and* a shoebox full of old software that runs on 
it.

Buying it "nude" as it were, I'd give $100 'cause you are going to have to 
root around for the OS and software.

This opinion and .60 will get you a cup of coffee (heh)-

Jeff


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From: luigi@paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Luigi Semenzato)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: the sudden extinction of the PB 100 4/40
Date: 3 Sep 1992 17:11:47 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: paris.cs.berkeley.edu

I need some help with my speculations here.

Is it at all possible that there are thousands of Powerbooks 100 4/40
sitting in some dark storeroom?

Does it make sense that Apple would try to get rid of the 2/20s first?
Or is this the last wave, all we are going to get?

It doesn't matter to me---I have bought my PB already---but friends
are asking.  --Luigi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: PowerBook reliability - Extending AppleCare?
Keywords: Apple Care PowerBook
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:44:40 GMT

Are you thinking of extending the AppleCare coverage on your PB?
Any idea of the cost? Policies for other Macs seemed steep but the
LCD panel alone can cost US$700 - $1400 to replace, I heard.
 Some PBs had the floppy drive shielding problem. I know of one where
the HD died and the mouse button broke a little bit, after only 3 months.

My concern is this - Is AppleCare on PBs going to cost the same as 
                     a new PB100? Ouch!

Has anyone received an actual AppleCare renewal form yet? What details
are known currently?

Please reply here or to 'parkyn@sfu.ca'.

Dale

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rlw@elan (Robert Wald)
Subject: SuperDrive heads, and why are they so expensive?
Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science
Date:  2 Sep 92 04:34:47 GMT

  Exactly why are SuperDrives so expensive? They seem to be the
same as PC drives (which I'm told can read Mac disks with the 
proper software), only $220 (minimum for the Applied Engineering
1.44 drive) compared to $50 for a 1.44 PC drive. They eject 
automatically, but what else is different? Is there any way 
to fool a Mac into using a PC drive with the right cable and 
manually ejecting at the right time?

  Similarly, is there a difference between the heads of the units?
Mine are bad, and need to be replaced. They seem to cost $120 for
a new set, which is twice as much as 2 whole PC drives.
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New powerbooks/duos
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:32:12 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: mr@bernina.ethz.ch's message of 30 Aug 92 15:16:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.151613.10437@bernina.ethz.ch> mr@bernina.ethz.ch (Marc Raths) writes:

   There's an Apple supplied PowerBook Tuner System Extension that should
   fix the problem.

Oh yes. It *should*.

My understanding is that it patches the serial drivers to implement PollProc.
Other drivers (such as MIDI Manager, OMS, ...) are still nonfunctional.

Nick.
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From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB100 at Price Club in Bay area
Date: 1 Sep 1992 02:36:33 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu



	Whole Earth Provision Co in San Jose 3550 Stevens had 10 PB100-2/20
	for $650 and $800 (with external floppy drive) yesterday afternoon.
	But I had to catch a place and couldn't even take a single one off
	their hands ... <sniff>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,su.macintosh
From: sheckler@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steven Heckler)
Subject: Maxtor 7213 Opinions?
Followup-To: sheckler@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 05:24:12 GMT

Hi!

     I was wondering if anybody has had any experiences with the Maxtor's
new 7213 mechanism, particularly as packaged by APS.  At $569 for an external
model or $499 for an internal, this seems almost too good to be true.

     In particular, I'd like to know hard numbers on read/write rates, seek
times, etc.  I've read 1.8 MB/sec. and 15 ms from APS' ad in MacUser, but I'd
like to hear from people who have actually given them good testing.  Although
I'd like to hear these numbers for the internal models, I am particularly
interested in the numbers for external models.

     Please send a note directly to me, sheckler@leland.stanford.edu, and I
will post a summary.  Please specify who sold you your drive and which Mac you
have the drive hooked up to.  Thanks!

                          Steve Heckler   
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: edcrwfrd@unlv.edu (Edward Crawford)
Subject: Re: 2 MB SIMMs?
Organization: UNLV
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 01:33:41 GMT

In article <BtM5KC.9At@rice.edu> add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham) writes:
>
>Well, there are 2 MB Simms, but only certain macs can use them.  They
>are the Classic II, LC, (LC II?), and IIsi.  If you have anything else,
>no go.  For this and more interesting info, see Apple Tech Note #176.
>

Im realitively sure the IIci can use 2 mb simms... mainly because
i have 2 mb simms in my IIci  :) (if the IIci cant, dont tell my
compter because i need my 12 megs  :) )
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple breaks promise? MODE32 not in 7.1?
Date: 31 Aug 1992 17:44:14 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <SPENCER.92Aug31125259@guraldi.med.umich.edu> spencer@med.umich.edu
(Spencer W. Thomas) writes:
>My understanding was that MODE32 worked only with system 7.0, not even
>with 7.0.1.  Please correct mee if I'm wrong.

You are wrong. It works with System 7.0.1.

I guess I'll have to install 7.1 and give MODE32 a try.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: smike@santafe.Sitka.Sun.COM (Bruce Linde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,sun.mac-users,sun.forsale.computers
Subject: *********** Mac SE Case $50 ***********
Followup-To: smike@sitka.sun.com
Date: 27 Aug 1992 16:43:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: santafe.sitka.sun.com
Keywords: mac, se

    Mac SE Case for sale - $50

    although i had entertained the notion of making it into a
    small fish tank (after it was gutted by parts cannibals),
    the first $50 takes it.

    reply by e-mail, or contact me direct at 510 769-2536.

    thanks,
    bruce


    p.s.: will trade for kensington system saver or equivalent fan
	  unit for mac plus ...






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From: shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: SyQuest Box
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:43:41 GMT
Reply-To: shawn@cars.com
Organization: Connelly Automation Research and Services

To the great well of knowledge, once again.

I am looking for experiences, suggestions, trails, tribulations,
etc. with putting a SyQuest drive into an external case. I've
happend onto a great deal for a SyQuest mechanism, and need
information on getting it into an external unit with a SE/30.

Thanks. If there's enough interest a summary of my responses will be
posted to comp.sys.mac.hardware.


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From: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu (ken ficara)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: What's a Mac 512 good for these days?
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:11:02 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I just got my hands on a 512 (non-E) for free and I was wondering if
it would be possible to use it as a print server. A simple one, that
is. I have a Mac SE 4mb, running System 7, and an ImageWriter II. Is
there any way I could have the SE send its print jobs to the 512 and
let the 512 feed the printer so I can get back to work on the SE?

Another question: does anyone know of any voice mail /answering
machine type software/hardware that would work on a 512?

Problem is, all my doors stay open by themselves! :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: richard@newt.ee.byu.edu (Richard Christensen)
Subject: <<<<<FOR SALE  68030 33MHz. - $300  shipping paid by me
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:10:11
Originator: richard@newt.ee.byu.edu
Keywords: 68030


I have a 68030 at 33 MHz chip.  I need to sell it
for $300.  I'll pay shipping.  Nothing is wrong
with it, I just can't use it.  I know that the 
sample price is around this figure, so it should be a steel
at this price.

Richard@remus.ee.byu.edu or 1-801-374-0941  5-10 pm mountain
                            1-801-378-3812  8-5  am-pm mountain
From: dh747612@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Dana Hartshorn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Using Two Screens
Keywords: tear off menus
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:57:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Why not try using the tear off menu init (I think it's free/shareware) & park
all your open menus on it.  They'll change with each app & stay where you put
them.

Dana
From: rseymour@sloth.Reed.Edu (Robert John Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PowerBook 145 Add on options?
Keywords: PowerBook
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:06:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep1.170624.13925
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

> danny@utkux1.utk.edu (Danny W. McCampbell) writes:
> 
> >Hi net.  I am considering buying a PowerBook 145 really soon.
> >Our Campus Bookstore is running a sale on them and I really
> >want a PowerBook.  The only problem is I would really like
> >to be able to hook an external Monitor up to it.  What are
> >my options with the PowerBook 145 and does it come with an
> >FPU?  The book store person I talked too could not tell me.
> >Thanks.

	The PowerBook 145 is probably on sale because Apple is replacing  
most of their models with much better ones in the near future.  If I were  
you I would wait for the PowerBook 160 which will feature a 640 x 480 4  
bit backlit supertwist screen (16 greys).  Like the 145 it won't have an  
FPU, but the 33MHz PowerBook 180 will along with and active matrix screen.   
Both of these models will have video out ports that support 8 bit color on  
a 13" monitor (256 colors).  Also, both units will support memory up to  
14MB.
	Additionally Apple is introducing the PowerBook Duo 210 and 230  
which will be 4 pound dockable units with the same screen as the 160 will  
have.  The 210 will be powered by a 25MHz 68030 wo/FPU while the 230 will  
have a 33MHz processor and FPU.  A 4/80 duo is expected to cost less than  
$3K and a 120MB hard drive will be an option.  The 160 and 180 will be  
priced from $2600 to $3500.  The 170 will be discontinued when the new  
ones come out and the 145 will become the low end PowerBook.
	As for current options, a Radius PowerView (c. $500-600) will give  
you external monitor support, but is a heavy tax on the processor and RAM  
because of the way it deals with QuickDraw GrafPorts through the SCSI  
interface (it doesn't compute bitmaps for the screen itself).  Supermac is  
coming out with a faster SCSI adapter (which computes QuickDraw  
primitives) but will be priced higher.  For internal options, Evisio makes  
the Display Adapter 030 for the 140, 170, and 145 but I have heard lots a  
bad things about short curcuits with the adapter (supposedly fixed by a  
mylar sheet, there is a review of it in Sept MacWorld).  Also there is a  
display adapter made by Computer Care called the BookView Imperial (i  
think) which does what the envisio does.  Both internal options allow for  
extra memory and support 256 colors on a 13" monitor.  If you want more  
information look at the 8.10.92 issue of MacWEEK for details on the new  
PowerBook models.
			Sincerely,
				Robert Seymour

Robert Seymour			rseymour@reed.edu
Reed College #611			
3203 SE Woodstock Blvd		(NeXTmail accepted)
Portland, OR 97202-8199
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
Subject: CD150 Problems -----> Any Ideas?
Reply-To: motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:31:38 GMT

I recently connected an Apple CD150 to my 
LCII.  On the SCSI chain is an Apple One
Scanner, an external and internal hard disk
and of course the CPU itself.

First I was having problems with just booting
the CPU.  With the CD in the SCSI chain, the 
system would boot up to the point of showing 
the desktop, then the system would hang, crash 
or bomb (take your pick, they all happened).  

Moving the CD to another area of the SCSI chain
fixed that problem but produced others.

1) If I have a CDROM in the drive when I shutdown
the CPU, the CDROM often does not eject. 

2) Sometimes I cannot eject a CD by either cmd-e or
dragging it to the waste basket because I get the 
error message, "Cannot eject because this CDROM is 
being shared", which it of course is not.  I am 
forced to reboot.

3) When I have no CDROM in the drive, I often get 
the message, "this disk is unrecongnizable, do you 
want to eject or initialize it".  An icon is shown
indicating an external floppy drive (or is it 
suppose to be the CD Drive?). 

About the SCSI chain.  All the cables are high 
quality.  There are 2x1foot plus 1x3 foot cables.
There is one terminator.  All devices are apple
branded (no internal terminators).  There are no
duplicate SCSI addresses.  I am running 7.0.1 with
1.1.1 tuneup.  The CDROM drive is V3.1.

Any Ideas?  Help!

Thanks, John DeRosa
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From: sears@cello.hpl.hp.com (Bart Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB100 at Price Club in Bay area
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:06:33 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories


I too am interested in getting one of the PB100 4/40's from the Price
Club.  Last time I checked they were out of stock and there doesn't
seem to be any convienent way to find out when they get new ones in
stock.  If anyone finds out that they are in stock in a Bay Area Price
Club, please let me know (or post, as there are probably other people
who are also interested).

						Bart
						sears@hpl.hp.com
From: mead@hamal.usc.edu (Dick Mead)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB100 2/20+FD $699 at CitiDollar
Date: 4 Sep 1992 11:11:39 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hamal.usc.edu

Don't rush to order. I just now called and PB100's are backordered
with no delivery expected before mid October. FYI

Dick


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