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From: thssdxn@iitmax.iit.edu (Dibyendu Nandy)
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 22:22:53 GMT

In article <1i5fprINNove@bigboote.WPI.EDU> rajesh@juniper (Rajesh Raman) writes:
>Samit Banerjee (banerjee@hsc.usc.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: In terms of protecting intellectual property, the US law makes more sense.
>
>  Please explain how. I donot think that it is right to take seed from
>  some country process it and then sell it worldwide and apply your own
>  label to it.
>
>  The US has been importing herbs and plants from tropical countries and
>  developing some kind of hybrid or resistant varieties and saying that
>  the people in the countries from which those plants were taken have no
>  right to develop disease-resistant breeds in their own way. How do you
>  justify this ?

	That is not the issue in question here. We are discussing intellectual
property rights of a drug manufacturing company, which makes the investment
in R&D and its associated costs over a period of years to develop a (in this
case) life-saving (?) drug. The company does have a right to have its 
investment guaranteed. I am no expert on patent laws, however from previous 
postings on the same topic, it appears to me that the Indian patent law
is definitely more progressive. The aim being to promote competition,
ans provide the best to the consumer without damaging intellectual
property rights. 

	What is intellectual property? The knowledge of how a
disease kills and how this may be prevented, or the knowledge of how
to make a drug that prevents the disease. Depending on your defintion,
your opinion on the issue would vary. To me it appears justified, that
the manufacturing process be patented, but not the actual drug itself. There
however is a very fine dividing line between the two, particulary in the
Pharmaceutical industry. In the case of a drug, it makes 
sense, that a process which can make the manufacture cheaper be used. 

Dibyendu

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From: raghu@clipper.ingr.com (Raghu Venkateshwaran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.american
Subject: M.S in Library Science : Info requested
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:37:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intergraph Advanced Processor Division - Palo Alto, CA


Hello SCIers,

	A friend of mine in India wants to study M.S in Library Science
	here in U.S. 

	Could anybody out there give me some info about the good universities
	offering this subject and address to get the application and catalog ?
	I appreciate your help in this regard. 


	(E-mail : raghu@clipper.ingr.com)

Thanks a lot,

Raghu
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Powers conferred by the constitution
Date: 24 Dec 1992 16:52:54 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
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In article <atulpule.725070500@cunews>, atulpule@sebastian.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule) writes:

|> It does not matter what the constitution says.
|> 
|> Look at the Indian Politics in the past few years - what happens if the 
|> constitution does not permit something which the "govt" wants to do ? The 
|> "govt" amends the constitution ! What happens if the Supreme Court does not 
|> give a ruling in accordance with what the "govt" wants ? The "govt"  makes 
|> legislation to supercede the Supreme Court's ruling !

Well, yes. All of things you mentioned above are permissible under the...
Constitution. The rule of Constitutional Government is that the law must
be obeyed. And that the legislative bodies have the right to change the law,
or make new law. When what they want to do conflicts with the fundamental
law (i.e. the Constitution), the Parliament has the authority, by 2/3 majority,
to change the Constitution itself -- which authority is conferred on them by
the Constitution. Do you have any instances of when the Govt. or
Parliament superseded the authority granted unto them by the Constitution? In
fact, what the Constitution says DOES matter. The problem is that it says too
little about restricting Central powers, as well as grants too much power to
the federal parliament.

|> Things like the Constitution, the Supreme Court etc. are all relevant only in 
|> the Civics text books. In real life politics, it is only the numbers that 
|> matter. (The "numbers" supporting the "govt" in the parliament).

In Democracies, numbers are destiny. The problem with our country is only partly
with the people who populate (and pollute) the political process. The more basic
problem is with the Constitution (too flexible and easily changeable under the
powers it itself gives to Parliament), the powers given to the Central Government 
(too damn much) and the judiciary (too weak, and sometimes too activist in the 
wrong areas).


|> Unfortunately what we have is a big Farce under the name of Democracy.

What we have is a Constitutional Democracy. The problem is with the Constitution,
not the Democracy.

|> Ajit Tulpule

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 19:34:54 CST
From: <U55991@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: new year greetings





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From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Shankaracharyas, And Their Outlook. Also Treatment Of Widows.
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:47:51 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <C035wr.IH9@cs.psu.edu> narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes:
>In article <1hsnpiINN5r@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu) writes:
>>they feel that since they are going to die there, what's the need. The same
>>people instead, are willing to spend crores of rupees in Tirupati, which is
>>more a Commercial venture, than a place of pilgrimage now.  The  crass type 
>>of greedy commercialism seen there in Tirupati,  leaves one in utter shame,
>>of the lopsided priorities that people have.
>>
>>Ponder over these points, and try to find an answer to them.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Vivek.
>>
>>
>
>Noop, Tirupathi is not a commercial venture. Because on an average about
>100000 people visit the temple every day, the TTD has to meet the obligatory
>facilities requirements of the Temple town. As a result there is a problem

The greed comes in the form of the Rs. 25 tickets, which people pay to
jump ahead in the queue, instead of standing for the Dharmadarshan.

The greed also comes, in decreasing the size of the Laddu, and raising
its price at the same time. It also manifests itself, in the expensive
guest houses built for the rich, providing, the richest of amenities &
having just the minimum for the choultries for the poor.



>I have not seen anything greedy about the town; do you mean to say
>the people are greedy! All around the world people are greedy! Thats
>what brings us to USA.


Not what brings us to the U.S., but what makes us stick to the U.S. on
completion of our degrees. 

Besides, I am referring to greed on the part of the management,  which 
I have given specific instances above. However,  I do not intend to be
critical of them, since they have their own reasons for doing, what is
being done by them, but I am trying to draw the attention of people to
the plight of human beings in Kashi and Gaya etc.,  a matter, which is
much more of need to be addressed,  than continuing to lavish the kind
of attention that Tirupati is getting.



>...kt

Regards,
Vivek.

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sxn9307@ucs.usl.edu (Nadimpalli Sanjay)
Subject: LOOKING FOR OLD STUDENTS OF DEMONSTRATION SCHOOL, MYSORE
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Distribution: world usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:11:27 GMT

Hi,

I am looking for old students of Demonstration School, Mysore, India.

This information is useful since I will be compiling a
list of DMS students and in future people may contact me
if they need to know the whereabouts of some of their
old school-mates.

If you are one of them, please send mail to sanjay@ucs.usl.edu
with the following information:

         Name           :
         Batch (X Class):
         E-mail address :
         Telephone No   :


Thanks,

Sanjay N
Batch: 1985.
Contact: sanjay@ucs.usl.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vr@cs.brown.edu (Viswanath Ramachandran)
Subject: Buying Religious Texts of Hinduism (SUMMARY)
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:56:47 GMT

Some days back, I had asked how it would be possible to buy the
above in the USA preferably by mail order. The responses are summarized
below :

1)  arun@cacs.usl.edu (Arun Lakhotia) writes :

Check South Asia Books (314) 474-0116
      Po Box 502
      Columbia, MO 65205

2)  sri@mtfmi.att.com (A Natarajan) writes :

If you wish to order through mail, you will save a considerable amount of
money AND you may be able to order a variety of works if you order it
directly from India.

Motilal Banarasi Das
Book Sellers and Publishers
Luz, Mylapore, Madras.
OR
Ramakrishna Mutt, Book Publishing Section
Ramakrishna Mutt Street
Mylapore, Madras

Write to them first for a book catalog.
Ask them to send books by surface mail.
It may take along time but it is cheaper.
Better still, if you have relatives who could buy the books for you
and ask these publishers to directly mail them to you
you really save a lot of money.

Thanks to those who responded.
_______________________________________________________________________________
Viswanath Ramachandran   | Dept. of Computer Science  | Office Phone :
Email: vr@cs.brown.edu	 | Box 1910, Brown University | (401) 861-9446
     : vr@browncs.bitnet | Providence, RI 02912, USA  | 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
From: gupta@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Sanjay K. Gupta)
Subject: RE:  Victory Day in Bangladesh!!!
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Billerica, Mass. (USA)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:42:01 GMT


khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman) writes
Subject: Victory Day in Bangladesh!!!
>Only great minds can admit wrong-doing and are
>capable of apologizing - like the Japanese apologized to Chinese and Korean
>for their wrong-doing against those nations.
>
>Show your courage and greatness today to the Bangladeshi people by
>apologizing for the atrocities organized by your previous generations.

Really only great minds. Doesn't the same apply to you muslims in your relation
to the Hindus? Doesn't Islam from Arab land owe an apology to all of us living 
in Indian sub-continent whose culture and religion this ideology sought to 
stifle and murder in the present day India and has already done it  in Pakistan
and Bangladesh over a thousand year period.


Sanjay K. Gupta

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From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Moslems@
Date: 25 Dec 1992 18:44:15 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Bukhari Mustafa Ibrahim writes:

>	PAKISTAN IS PROUD OF ME BUT I THINK .... ....

	At this point, a bug in his non-existent software caused him to go 
	into an infinite loop.... 

	FFT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: godura@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Re: Please Make me Bengali [ Bengali culture for net.bhadraloks] -- Icarus.
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:00:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.211933.28903@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.020843.11936@udel.edu> godura@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec30.025447.27626@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan) writes:
>>>So many reasons to be a bengali, at least a honorary one.
>>>Do I have to count more reasons ?
>>8B theke boshe paanchjoner shonge lemon chaa aar feeltar hooeels 
>>kheyecho ?
>
>:-) 
>I could resort to a close friend who is a bengali to decode,
>but why worry, here let me try, after all Im trying for honorary
>bengalihood:
>
>You ask me if I have ever eaten some sweet "feeltar hooels" 
                                  ^^^^^^^^^
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA           ( No I'm not Bose )
>along with lemon tea 
>with five friends. What is the 8B ? Some bus number or some such ?
>Well, Dont laugh too loud, malayalam will be opaque to you. :-)
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oops, sorry, too late. :-))))))))))))))) ( No, I'm not Mustafa )
Guess that rules me out for honorary malayalihood :-(

Feeltaar Hoeels == Filter Wills, man, not (mmmmmphh!) a sweet, better.
8B == Jadavpur to Howrah via Beckbagan and Sealdah.
      The general area around the terminus, opp. Jadavpur Univ.
      Actually, I meant Bengal Lamp, not 8B. (figure that one out !)
>I hope I havent goofed up. 
Well, you didn't do too bad .. maybe observer status can be given to
you.
But Permanent membership ?? Na bhai. Cholbe na.
>
>Here I do pretty well [I presume ]. :-)
>Have you ever wasted ten hours talking intellectual stuff ?
Actually, you missed the essence. 
Bong : Aantail == pseud dude
       Aantail + intellectual == aantaillectual.
>
>>Thik, guru, matha thanda rakhai besh.
>
>:-) Ill keep my head cool too.
Beta dosh degree farenheite aar ki korte paarbi ?

Ruchir.
-- 
Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 731-4123 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Dharma Sansad Demands Lifting of Bans (Niranjan Dev Teerth's
Date: 28 Dec 1992 16:33:41 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
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Ajay Divakaran sez:

>           I do remember the eldest Kanchi Shankaracharya refusing to even
>look at widows, and then having a well publicised meeting with Mrs. Indira
>Gandhi. One does not know whether to laugh or to cry.
>                                                           ajay 

There's a different reason for that. The reason that he gave, as did the
middle Shankaracharya gave when he met Janaki Ramachandran (when she was
CM for two weeks after MGR kicked the bucket) was that they were Heads of
State, equivalent to the Kings of yore, and hence had a right to an audience
with the SAs by virtue of their positions. So whatever the merits (or lack
thereof) of the stance of refusing to see widows are, there is some crazy
consistency in their positions. I think though, that like the Catholic Church,
they need to do some occasional re-thinking of their positions on various
issues to reflect the progressive liberalization of society.

The reason for the publicity that attended the meeting between the Seniormost
pontiff of Kanchi and IG was that he had previously refused to see her as a
result of differences of opinion over the Emergency. He is himself a very
learned man, proficient in as many as 17 languages, and a philosopher of 
great repute. When he was picked to become the Matadhipathi of Kanchi, in the
early part of the century, there was apparently some concern over the fact that
he was more interested in Shakespeare and Bacon than the Vedas or the Upanishads.

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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From: sam@uwasa.fi (Sam Inkinen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: VISITING INDIA - INFORMATION NEEDED!!!
Date: 29 Dec 92 09:33:59 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

Hello netters!

I am a Finnish journalist just to leave for India for 15 days. I would
greatly appreciate receiving valuable tips where to go and what places
to visit at the moment. My idea is to cruise around the country.

Many thanks in advance, energetic new year 1993,


Sam Inkinen
-- 

Sam Inkinen
sam@chyde.uwasa.fi
--
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Just heard this on radio...
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:05:58 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
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CBS Radio reports that Ambassador to India Thomas Pickering will be
appointed Clinton's Dy. Secy. of State (no. 2 man at State). Anybody know
what this dude's attitude is towards India? Has his experience made him
partial to India or has it embittered him?

I remember that he was plucked out of his UN job because some Bush 
administration guys thought that he hogged too much credit for the US
being able to swing the Security Council their way in re Desert Storm. 
Wonder if that made him anti-India.

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan)
Subject: Genesis-II [Let's change SCI] -- Icarus.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:29:21 GMT

1] Lets get your picture here.
   You want to read sci because its entertaining, because topics
   related to India are discussed, because you feel you are among
   people who know what it means to be Indian. You read it because there
   are people who are interesting to read who post on the net, because 
   you learn new things and see new points of view.

   Only sci is nothing of the sort.
   Its full of religious propaganda, its full of bloated egoes clashing
   day in and day out. Its full of culture-chauvinists and fanatics,
   so much so that you cant read more than 5 of a 100 articles posted in a 
   day.

   So you complain. And hope things will improve.
   But they wont. Because sci has too many idiots running amok.

   Having set the stage, let me unveil the idea simple as ity may seem:

   I invite a discussion on forming alt.culture.indian.moderated

   Just exchange of views, news and interesting stuff. 
   No garbage. 
   No scavengers.
   No looking for articles.
   No test messages.
   No help in visa messages.
   No pakistan bashing.
   No Hindu, Muslim ... bashing.
   
   Why moderation ? 
   Because some people never learn.
   
   What should be allowed and what should be kept out ?
   The answer here is : All that we dislike in sci is to be left out.

   To the question why ? , I have a simple answer: because sci has become
   unreadable.

   The usenet has great potential.
   Lets use it.

2] If you support the idea or want to contribute towards a charter
   send mail to paulchem@tigger.cs.colorado.edu.

   I am sure there are plenty of people who disagree with me here.
   And some who do agree.

   Lets see some discussion.
   And get this show on the road.
   
   Further action pending discussion.

3] To avoid the problem of having one persons views dominating the
   group we must think of someway of alowing a panel of people who
   will serve as the moderating panel.
   


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.   The sunset of that golden hour,                                        .
.   When my eyes were first opened,                     Paul Chemmanoor    .
.   And I saw your eyes, No longer blind.                   Boulder.       .
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From: sudhakar@informix.com (Sudhakar Kaki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MATRIMONIAL UPDATE : WEEKLY REMINDER
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:51:51 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor) writes:

>A suggestion after noticing atleast two matrimonials recently:

>How about starting a " Matrimonial Update: Weekly Reminder" with,
>of course, the usual columns of ratings and, most important, the
>comments ...  such as...

>- Was Rude. Did not call Back

>- Took all the money (dowry) in advance. Changed name since.

>- Courteous. Satisfied everybody.

>- Dilly-dallied to the last moment 

>- Unreliable

>- Accepts Credit Cards


>Rajat Kapoor

>PS. An Eligible Bachelor 


Ho..Ho..Ho.. . surprised to see SCI  getting romantic...
Hopefuly not among the same sex as the fairsex is rarely seen on the NET.!

- Sudhakar.
From: sramacha@aludra.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 17:15:32 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
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Whew! Thought only s.c.i. had a net.police.patrol. Found this in soc.singles:




>>If he bores you so much, then put him in your KILL file!  You needn't waste
>>bandwidth with insults of "Don't bother me with your crap," when you need
>>only place him in your KILL file and you won't have to worry about seeing
>>anything that bothers you.
>
>	Thanks for the Introduction to Usenet.  Much appreciated.  But
>you see I have this thing about kill files -- I don't believe in them.

Then quit your bitching.  You *do* have a choice - either ignore it or put
up with it.  The whole of usenet isn't going to revolve around Desiree's
desires, much as you would like it to.  Sorry to be the one to tell you.



Disclaimer: Lifted without permission !
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