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From: bds@mbunix.mitre.org (Smith)
Subject: Re: IAMS dog food
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:44:45 GMT

In article <180888INNmek@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse) writes:
>
>My vet recommended changing my dog's diet because he is
>a little overweight.  I started him on Science diet and
>he didn't much care for it.  I changed  it according to
>my vet's instructions.  I have changed dog food again -
>this time to IAMS.  He likes this brand but he now has
>lose stools.  I had been adding people food (very little)
>to both brands but cut it out entirely when the lose
>stools started but it makes no difference.  This has
>been going on for about a month with the IAMS.  Does 
>anyone have any suggestions and in particular to the
>following;
>
>1)  Is it the IAMS food?
>
>2)  What brand of dog food would be better?  I've
>    tried Bil Jack and he doesn't like it at all.
>
>3)  Would adding rice or a vegetable to the food
>    help?
>
>E-mail or post replies.  Thank you.  I've found
>this group very helpful in the past.
>
>Evelyn (owned by Digory)
>
>-- 
>

I think that the right brand of dog food varies from dog to dog.  My
last dog had terrible skin problems when she was about 7 or 8 and we
switched to IAMS.  She did so well we kept her on IAMS until she died
last year at 16 years old.  We also had good luck with IAMS with
another dog.  These days, our 8 month old puppy has always been on
Purina Puppy Chow, and does very good, except that his stools are a
little soft.  We tried IAMS, but he wouldn't touch it.  So we tried
Science Diet, and he loves it, his stools are much better, but he
seems to have started scratching.  We switched back to Puppy Chow, and
he's no longer scratching, but his stools are soft again.  So we'll
keep looking.

By the way, with all the talk about preservatives, we called Science
Diet and they sent us a large package of reports about various studies
being done on the subject.  It's very interesting.  It was also a
pleasant surprise to find that a very knowledgable woman answered the
phone--usually when we call a company someone who knows next to
nothing answers and either passes you to someone else or makes you
wish you had never called.  Science Diet should be commended for this
service. 

Barry
From: ben@monmouth.edu (Bennett Broder)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: mailmen and dogs
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:52:05 GMT
Organization: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, NJ  07764

In article <1992Aug25.103425.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> mawells@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>       Maybe the key to dogs not harming mailmen
>is to for them to own a dog.  If they own one then the other dogs say, hey
>that's an ok person, leave him alone.

Actually, I think the trick to having dogs not harm the mail and UPS
men is to socialize your dogs to know and accept these people.

Look at it from a dogs point of view.  Every day this stranger comes to
the front door -- an intrusion on his "turf".  So, he lets out a warning
bark and guess what, the intruder goes away.  He has "won" this round.
Day after day this happens, reinforcing in the dogs mind that the mailman
is an intruder, doesn't belong on the property, and is easily scared away.

It is not hard to see how this could escalate into a bad situation.
It shouldn't be too hard to get your dogs on good terms with the
mail and delivery people.

-- 

Bennett Broder               Monmouth College
                             Computer Services
ben@monmouth.edu             W. Long Branch, NJ 07764
From: rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Put Your Thinking Caps On!
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:20:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Sep4.142026.17634
Organization: Eastman Kodak

In article <2SEP92.15163683@wums.wustl.edu> trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu writes:
>>I'm helping my breed club put together a list of questions that people
>>should ask themselves before getting a dog.
>
>	Well aside from some of the more apparent questions such as
>size, sex, length of coat etc. it might be a good idea to put something
>in about "alpha puppies".  I am convinced that we got the alpha puppy;
>when we chose our dog they were only 4 weeks old- not too active.  We
>picked out the most active strongest ("healthiest", we thot at the time).
>When we went to pick him up at 7 weeks he was by far the fattest, biggest,
>most rambunctious of them all. I would not trade him for the world 
>but if I known such an alpha existed I could have kept an eye 
>out-so to speak.  I believe some people would prefer and alpha puppy and
>others simply would not. Whaddyathink?
>Beverly

The breeder that I went to used a Puppy Aptitude Test to determine the
puppies' traits, and interviewed each potential purchaser to determine
their lifestyle and matched the puppies to the owners.  It happened that
Kelsey was one of the two that "fit" me (and the one that had picked me
:-)  Margaret said that a couple of times she has gone against her better
judgement and let someone take a puppy that they really wanted despite
the PAT results, and it has always worked out badly.  Most of the
breeders I talked to used this method.  Good breeders know their dogs
and are probably generally better suited to which dogs match which people
than most people are.
From: trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: TOUCH update
Date: 2 SEP 92 15:07:24 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu


	Well I *finally* got through to the TOUCH office here in St.
	Louis.  I found out the program is not national it is only
	in St. Louis but the SUPPORT DOGS is national.  They are
	currently considering getting a *branch* set up in the 
	Chicago area.  Seems there is overwhelming interest but
	they are having a hard time keeping up with it all- it
	is an all volunteer organization.  	
		They told me that the DELTA SOCIETY PO BOX 1080
	RENTON, WASH  98057.  (206)226 7357 was a national
	organization that dispensed info about therapy dogs-
	etc.  They do not train the dogs but give them the 
	good citizen test as a requirement.  I am told our 
	training and temprment test was much more rigorous than
	the CGC test.(I dunno for myself- never tried the CGC
	test).  They also mentioned that a lot of local 
	humane societies, breed clubs, and obedience clubs do
	some hospital visitation.  I also warned them about the
	powers of 'the net' and that they may get a lot of out-
	of-town mail.  They are delighted.  My name will be passed
	along to the founders and they may contact me.
thanks for the interest
Beverly

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From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: Feeding Dogs Veggies and Fruit?
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<1992Sep4.193852.21007@newshost.lanl.gov>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:58:42 GMT

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:38:52 GMT, srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee) said:

SL> In article <1992Sep4.163927.1817@sfu.ca> richard@sfu.ca writes:

>Our current dogs go *crazy* about vegetables and fruit! They love lettuce,
>cabbage, carrots, onions (yes, onions!), green and red peppers, apples, 

SL> Be careful about the onions.  They can be toxic in dogs (at least that is
SL> my understanding).

They're not exactly toxic.  They affect the production of red blood
cells or something.  The occasional onion isn't going to damage your
dog but you shouldn't give them a lot of onions on a regular basis.

I have a collie with a portal-systemic shunt who's on a very
restricted diet and he can't have any onions at all.  The other
collie, who is quite healthy. can have some onions every now and then,
in the leftovers that I dress up his kibble with.  This came up when
we were setting up Malcolm's special diet.

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
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From: watson@hpcvcah.cv.hp.com (Jeffrey Watson)
Subject: Labrador Rescue League
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:40:22 GMT

Is there a Labroador Rescue League contact in Oregon?

Jeff 
watson@cv.hp.com
From: ellis@daffodil.LABS.TEK.COM (Cynthia Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: What to do about a Pekingese with hairballs
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:33:42 GMT


My Pekingese has a problem with hairballs. They cause her to vomit
a small amount of (very smelly) fluid plus sometimes some hairballs.
Should I be taking her to a vet? (She seems _very_ healthy except for 
the occasional - less than once per week - vomiting.) Should I be 
giving her Petromalt or is there a canine equivalent? Does anyone 
else's dog have a problem with hairballs? If so, what do you do?


Cindy


P.S. Please no flames along the lines of "why don't you keep your
dog groomed better." I really try, but with the cold winter we
had last year (which gave her a very thick, beautiful coat) and
the unusually hot summer we're having this year, she NEVER quits
shedding no matter how much I brush, comb, and rake!
From: nardy@llnl.gov (Dominic P. Nardy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Floppy-eared G. Shep Puppy
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:39:24 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: Lawrence Livermore Laboratory

In article <1992Aug21.164835.29160@terminator.cc.umich.edu>,
vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff) wrote:
> 
> The problem with this plan is that once the cartilege (sp?) in the ear
> stiffens, you are stuck with whatever you've got.  I'd be REALLY surprised
> to hear that taping the ears of a year-old dog would do any good.
> 
> It's not like taping their ears is cruel or painful.  Most pups I've
> seen with taped ears don't even notice.  I can't see that it's harmful to
> tape their ears (as long as you don't make it too tight, or neglect to 
> take it all off at least once a week to see what's happening).  If it's not
> harmful, and you care if the ears go up, why not do it?

The soft part of a hair curler is perfect for holding a GSD's ears up. 
Don't use glues, adhesives or masking tape.  Use double-edged tape.  With
double edged tape and the foam rolers, the dog won't even feel them.  It is
important to support them when they get to about three or four months,
depending on how big the pup is and how big the ears are.  When I sell GSD
pups I explain to the new owners how to support the ears and when to do it.
 There is nothing more silly looking than a GSD or any other large breed
dog with floppy ears when they don't naturally have them. It makes GSD's
look wimpish and implies that they have poor breeding when it may not be
the case.
From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Beagle trainability
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:06:34 GMT


Believe it or not, the first dog that got an obedience title was a Beagle.

However, I agree, Beagles are incredibly stubborn like most hounds.  My husband
owned one for several years and this dog was impossible to work with because he
had taken this dog to an amateur obedience trainer.  

My personal opinion is that any dog should be taken to a professional obedience
trainer rather than waste you money on one that you won't obtain results from.



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From: ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: dog hates cats
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 20:55:02 EDT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith) writes:

> > Any success stories out there?  A marriage may be at stake here if I
> > can't break him of this awful habit.
> >
> I hope you realize that the dog is doing what he instinctly does - pursue cat
> I might question your relationship with your SO if a dog being a dog is about
> to end a relationship.  How you two react to the dog/cat situation may be
> the bigger problem.  Anyway - I spent 4 months training a 3 year old husky th
> had killed skunks and tried to eat a cat to live with a cat.  It was a lot
> of hard work but we succeeded. I posted my story on this BB so look for it.
> If you cannot find it - let me know and I will send you the story.
> It can be done.


question the relationship?  whatever for?  i know *I* would never share a house
with a cat-eating dog.  if the beloved and the dog were a package deal, we
woudl continue to have a commuter relationship as long as the dog lived.
significant others are nice to have, but not worth risking my cats' lives over.
and a dog that ate one of my cats would be an ex-dog...

                                                    -ailsa

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From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: Are dogs color blind?
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:40:09 GMT

In <1992Aug26.183908.29977@newshost.lanl.gov> srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee) writes:

>In article <1992Aug26.173807.20243@newshost.lanl.gov> davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons) writes:
>>

>>Does anyone have any info (it needn't be as good as the above, but it
>>would be nice ;-)) on the accuracy of canine night vision?  McDuff
>>can't see beans at night--even with his >300 watt flood light system
>>that I installed in the back yard (he thought he was god the first
>>time he walked out the back door and the whole world lit up!). With
>>the lights off, he bumbles around well enough, but he can't find
>>*anything*.

I hate to say this, but night-blindness is sometimes an indication of
eye problems like PRA or GPRA ([general] progressive retinal atrophy).
Is your dog about 2 or 3 years old?  You might want the vet to check
his eyes.

>This is interesting.  It has always been my understanding that dogs have
>superior vision at night (superior to ours).

Yep, according to the information I have.

>Otherwise, I guess different dogs will
>have different abilities to see different things in different circumstances,
>just like people.

Hopefully that's it.

--Cindy
--
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From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Subject: Inexpensive and safe puppy toys
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:09:07 GMT


Does anyone have any suggestions for inexpensive and safe puppy toys? They
need to be inexpensive because I will need enough toys for 9 golden retriever
puppies from the time that they're old enough for toys until they go to their
new homes. They need to be "safe" because I'd like toys that I can leave with
them when they are not being supervised (this excludes "squeaky" toys because
the squeakers, when removed from the toy, can cause serious problems).

Thanks for your ideas!

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From: helen@Software.Mitel.COM (Helen Robert)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: side effects of eltroxin - help
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:14:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

Does anyone out there have any experience with a dog on Eltroxin 200,
we were told it would help a skin problem (supposedly not related to the thyroid, although I wonder about this after reading some posts on this net).

Our Dachshund, Gus, is supposed to be on these pills all the time, although
we only really keep him on them spring and fall, which seem to be the times of year that his skin gets irritated and he loses fur, then the skin turns black.

It seems also that, corresponding to these times, Gus has very little bladder control. He pees in the house almost every night, and sometimes he'll be asleep on his chsir and he starts peeing on the pillow. We have to wake him up and put
him out. When he's not on these drugs, we do not have this problem. The vets (I
called three different offices in Ottawa) say that loss of bladder control is NOT a side effect of Eltroxin.

I'm just wondering if anyone has seen this type of behaviour in a dog on Eltroxin, and also would like some suggestions on how to deal with it.

Helen


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From: kathy@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (AUS:GREENWOOD,KATHY)
Subject: Re: Hunting ability in Labradors
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University Computing Services, Norman, OK
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:59:00 GMT

Exerpt from Chris posting: 
>My sample requirement for Labs:
>   a JH
>   1/3 of the points required for a CH
>   CGC award
> 
>Not too difficult, but it's still *something* that means that the people
>that are breeding are TRYING to improve the breed.  I would require the
>full JH title because it really is pretty easy.  Of course, a more
>difficult title (FC, AFC, SH, MH) would certainly be acceptable in it's
>place.
> 
>PS:  wouldn't this also take a big chunk out of the puppy mill
>     problem too?)
> 
>But, since the AKC makes it's money by registering litters and dogs,
>I just don't see this happening anytime soon.
> 
> 
>Comments?
I think it's a GREAT idea!  Even if the AKC just started by putting a 
requirement that puppies could not be registerable unless the parents had
a title.  This title could be CH, CD, JH, TD, just anything that proves that
the dog is qualified to do something and the breeder has put some time into
discovering if this dog is a good representative of its breed or not.  This
would put a good bite into the puppy mill industry.  I have seen so many people
come into our clinic that are amayzed that an AKC registered dog does not mean
that it it's a good dog.  This still wouldn't be any guarantee BUT it's a start!

............................................................................
Kathy Greenwood                | Mom to 
Math Major (believe it or not!)|   Loucha and Landry (Belgian Sheepdogs)
University of Oklahoma         |   Ruger (English Springer Spaniel)
                               |   Elsa (German Wirehair Pointer)
.............................................................................
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Person in flux)
Subject: Re: Feeding Dogs Veggies and Fruit?
Reply-To: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:50:57 GMT

In article <17atdeINNmjc@gw.home.vix.com>, shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell 
JD) writes about feeding her dog Tazi veggies and being chastised by her vet
for doing so:

I feed my dogs all sorts of things; not candy or chocolate or
manufactured/processed human food, but definitely butt ends of lettuce (a big
favorite), carrots (another fave), cukes, rice, bread, apples, bananas, all
sorts of stuff with no ill effects.  You'll see some of the stuff later on in
their poop, but in my opinion it's harmless.  I've known several people who'd
feed their dogs dry food combined with cans of those cheap store-brand
vegetables, which is a good way to get weight off of a dog (gives them bulk for
the stomach without the calories).  I don't think Tazi will die from your
treats, especially since you are meeting her nutrition requirements with her
dogfood.

Katie
From: userGS13@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (unknown)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: AIREDALES
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:45:03 GMT
Organization: MTS Univ of Alberta

ARE THERE ANY READERS THAT ARE EITHER OWNERS OR ARE INTERESTED OR
HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THE AIREDALE BREED? WE ARE THINKING OF
GETTING ONE AS A PET, SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF ANYONE WANTS TO
SHARE HIS/HER EXPERIENCE(S) WITH THE BREED IN ANY CAPACITY!
THANKS!
MICHAEL MATHIOUDAKIS
UNIVERSITY OF ALBERTA
DEPT. OF CIVIL ENGINEERING
EDMONTON, AB, CANADA.
From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Humane societies out there?
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:33:03 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


There are so few "no-kill" shelters because there are only so many that
can be run that way--that is, there's another agency that *does* put
animals down.  If you think about it for a minute, some animals do have to
be put down.

The San Francisco SPCA is a "no kill" shelter.  (2500 16th St., San
Francisco 94110, 415/554-3000)  But the only reason it's "no kill" *now*
is because it no longer has the animal control contract for the City and
County of San Francisco (which decided it wanted to run animal control
itself and now has its own agency which is *not* "no kill" of course,
because it can't be).
From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Desperately seeking a major)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Show brags - sort of
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:56:15 EST

I just got the word yesterday that out of all the dogs that my handler could
take to the Golden Retriever National Specialty, he has chosen Spencer as his 
#1 dog for the Open class.  That is quite a compliment because our handler is 
very well known and one of the top winning handlers in the area. I'm so 
excited!  

Kim 
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From: macaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (MACKINNELL AMANDA)
Subject: Re: SHOCK COLLARS (go ahead flame ME!!)
Summary: yes I can
Keywords: shock collars unnecessary
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:01:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.181922.26572@newshost.lanl.gov>, crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) writes:
> 
> Can you name a single other tool that will allow you to make a
> correction (not mete out punishment) at distances from feet to
> hundreds of yards?  

	As matter of fact, I can: THE VOICE.

	And if your dog wont respond to it at such distances then take him back in close and begin again. 

	PATIENCE.

	Amanda MacKinnell

	"Cry havoc and let slip the Dogs of War"