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From: bnataraj@uceng.UC.EDU (Bhaskar Natarajan)
Subject: Re: Tennis Raquet reccomendations
Organization: University of Cincinnati, Engineering College
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:49:30 GMT

In article <1a5seiINN90@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan) writes:
>
>I'm going to buy a new tennis raquet soon and I'm thinking of either the
>Prince Graphite of the Wilson ProStaff (Edberg's)  Does anyone use either
>of these, and if so so what are your opinions of them?  I used to use the
>ThunderStick but after a while I hated it.  My shots flew everywhere, and
>I lost control.  So I've decided to go for something more less extreme like
>the Graphite or Prostaff.  How about the Prince Synergies?  
>Your opinions would be much appreciated, thanks.


If you are thinking about a raquet called "Prince Graphite Comp XL Oversize"
I'd advice caution. I bought it for $52 odd (it was a deal i fell for), and
somehow i have never been satisfied with it. The biggest problem with it is 
that it jars a lot... i mean, it gives a metallic "thonk" when you strike the 
ball and vibrates uncomfortably. Especially off the backhand, it is quite 
uncomfortable. 

I don't know whether you should avoid all Prince Graphites, but i'd say you
try hitting a few balls before purchasing a raquet.

Of Course this is only my experience and it is very possible it is an
isolated instance. See what the other nettors say.

BTW, can the racquet experts ( part time/full time :-)) tell me why
my raquet vibrates like i said, and suggest remedies ?

Thanx,
Bhaskar
From: mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: RE: Tennis Raquet reccomendations
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:23:14 GMT
Organization: High Frequency Radar Division - Defence Science and Technology Organisation

>I'm going to buy a new tennis raquet soon and I'm thinking of either the
>Prince Graphite of the Wilson ProStaff (Edberg's)  Does anyone use either
>of these, and if so so what are your opinions of them?  I used to use the
>ThunderStick but after a while I hated it.  My shots flew everywhere, and
>I lost control.  So I've decided to go for something more less extreme like
>the Graphite or Prostaff.  How about the Prince Synergies?  
>Your opinions would be much appreciated, thanks.

I have the same problems with widebodies, and have been testing out new
racquets. So far, the Pro Staff has come out on top as far as great control
with a reasonable (not excessive) amount of power goes. I am testing the Prince
Graphite tonight as a friend has it. It is slightly heavier than the Pro Staff.
Another good one I tried was the Yamaha Secret 04 as used by Yannick Noah. This
feels alot like the Wilson, but heavier in the head. I found the Synergy db 26
to give me the same problems as other widebodies (feels like the old CTS
Approach).

David Mudge
mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au
From: THN103@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: IN DEFENSE OF STEFFI GRAF
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:00:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92274.180010THN103
Organization: Penn State University

I agree with you that Graf has the mental and physical attributes to be one of
the top players, but that's not enough to be #1.  Monica Seles has proven this
point well by taken over the top by a large margin.  Seles does not play net or
have all court game but still dominate.  I'm not so sure that when Graf perfect
s her net game that she can be #1 again.  Seles have proven herself that she is
 the best female tennis player at the present time.  Graf can only play catch u
p if Seles continue her power game.

As for playing Graf playing more challenged players, I have to disagree.  It
does not matter if you play the best or the worst opponent when you are the bes
t.  If you believe Graf has a disavantage or bad luck because she have played m
ore challenged players than Graf is not the best player.  Graf have played the
top players many times including Seles.  Although Graf and Seles does not meet
often in finals is because Graf cannot dominate the top five players as consist
ently as Seles.  Considering Sanchez-Vicario and tired Martina as a reason for
being number one if contradicting.  Both Sanchez-Vicario and Martina have beate
n Graf and Seles and they should not be consider as not challenged players or a
 weak force.

I believe Graf is a very talented tennis player and that's why she is the #2 pl
ayer in the world.  However, to consider her the best player is premature.  Sel
es have proven herself as the best right now without the need to improve her ga
me.  Until Graf prove that she has more than just the physical and mental aspec
t of the game and to beat Seles consistently, then Graf and many others can con
sider Graf as the best.
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From: bose@unity.cs.umn.edu (Ashim Bose)
Subject: Re: Davis Cup
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:51:52 GMT

In article <1a1eoqINN44v@corax.udac.uu.se> chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson) writes:
>
>And Edberg lost too.  No surprises so far.  It wasn't very nice to hear the audience cheer every time a Swede missed a serve.  But that's America for you, 
>I guess.
>
>- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se

I was ashamed to hear that too.  There was really no need for that kind of
"support", but I guess people are too used to the "Basketball Fan SYndrome"
where you try to distract the opponents on the free-throw line.  I would like
to think that not all American tennis fans are like that.  There were a lot of
teenagers in the crowd who were there just to root for Agassi and not to 
appreciate a good game of tennis.

Ashim
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From: vinlai@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (vincent.lai)
Subject: Spaghetti stringing/McEnroe's racket tension
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:37:46 GMT

When I was watching a brief history of the US Open, I heard of how Stan
Smith was upset by some unknown who strung his racket in an unusual
way.  Subsequently, "spaghetti stringing" was banned from all
tournaments.  

I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with the term.  It sounds like a stringing
style that hovers around 10-20 lbs.  That brings me to McEnroe, who
strings his rackets at 44 lbs. 

Has anybody strung their racket that loosely?  I vaguely remember that
Warren Bosworth contended that optimal power AND control could be
achieved by going DOWN in tension.  Any thoughts?

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From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Davis Cup
Date: 26 Sep 1992 10:41:30 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

In article <1992Sep26.011515.16634@admin.kth.se>, ojarnef@admin.kth.se (Olle Jarnefors) writes:
> The first match, Courier--Kulti:
>   4-6 
>   7-6 (7-1)  (Courier broke back at 4-5)
>   6-3
>   7-5  (Kulti broke Courier in the first game; once again Kulti
>         was unable to win his service game at 4-5)

And Edberg lost too.  No surprises so far.  It wasn't very nice to hear the audience cheer every time a Swede missed a serve.  But that's America for you, 
I guess.

- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se
From: mliu@ucsb.edu (Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Edberg's Grand Slams
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:29:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara

>|> >tournament every year.  How many years in a row is it?  I know that Edberg won a
>|> >couple of Australian opens many years ago, he won Wimbledon in 1988 and 1990, 
>|> >U.S. open in 1991 and 1992.  This means that he did not win any grand slam 
>|> >tournament in 1987, 89.  When did he win Australian open?
>|> Yes, there's some confusion about this.  He didn't win any in 1989: that
>|> was the year when he lost to Michael Chang at the French Open, and was
>|> also a runner-up at Wimbledon.  His Autralian titles were won in 1986 and 87, I
>|> believe, and he could have won again in 1990 if not for an injury that
>|> caused him to stop playing against Landl in the final.
>|> 
>|> M. Liu
>
>Are you of theses dates? I am pretty sure that he won in 87.
>I also think that his victories were 2 years apart. 
>This means he won in 85 or 89.

Okay.  You caught me short.  Here is the chronology, based on John
Feinstein's Hard Courts:

1985  Australian
1987  Australian
1988  Wimbledon 
1989  Defaulted in Australia due to back injury;
      Lost to Chang in French Open final;
      Lost to Becker in Wimbledon final;
      Lost to Connors in 4th round in U.S. Open.
      (According to Feinstein: Edberg's parents were separated that year,
       which may have been traumatic to him);
1990  Defaulted to Lendl in Australian Open final due to muscle problem;
      won Wimbledon against Becker in final; 
1991  U.S. Open;
1992  U.S. Open.

So he didn't have a grand slam in 1986, nor 1989.

M. Liu
From: adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: A Word of Explanation
Date: 27 Sep 1992 22:16:13 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun24.bbn.com

Hello,

   Since I have received several messages with respect to the fact that
   I have unsubscribed to this group, I'll post just one message rather
   than respond to each individually.

   Over the past 5 or 6 months, this newsgroup has received a significant
   number of postings which I personally have found to be too distasteful
   to read.  This includes postings which contain (in my opinion) nasty 
   comments directed at the author of a posting, obscene remarks made about
   some of the pro players, and a large number of sexually explicit comments 
   directed at several of the female pro players. 

   Using kill files or flaming the offending individuals does not address
   this issue since these types of postings are coming from all over the 
   place.  Also, having to read these postings cannot necessarily be avoided 
   since one cannot always tell the content of a posting by the subject text.
   And I don't think splitting the group up is an alternative, since there is 
   no way to stop these types of articles from being posted to any group which
   is unmoderated.

   It seems clear from some comments made recently (I peeked) that since 
   this newsgroup is unmoderated, folks want the freedom to post whatever
   they want without worrying about whether they are going to offend someone. 
   There is also the point that a comment which may bother one person may not
   bother another - so who's to say what should be allowed or not.  I totally
   agree with these issues - which is why I unsubscribed to the group, rather
   than try and start another opinion war.


Live long and prosper, Anne
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From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Subject: Re: Davis Cup final times and phone #'s
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
X-Lunar-Date: 7 days, 3 hrs, 45 mins until the full moon (U.T.)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:01:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct04.003000.25148@eng.umd.edu>, clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
>  
>    The annoucers on ESPN expressed their regrets that the Davis Cup
> prices were too high.

When the tickets first went on sale to the general public, they wouldn't
sell individual day tickets -- it was either a 3-day package or nothing. 
The cheapest package was $60 (which is what I went for, being only a poor
grad student), and the highest was around $325 (if I remember correctly).

The 5 matches lasted about 20 hours, so the (cheapest) tickets alone cost
about $3/hour of play.  The lower deck (where all the expensive seats were)
was about 80% full for every match, but the upper deck (where people were
fainting from oxygen starvation) was only about 40% full at any given time.

I've heard since then that the reason why Minneapolis was chosen for the
Davis Cup Semis was because the Target Center seats about 18,000, and
"they" wanted to maximize their revenue intake.

I'm particularly bummed about the seating I got -- I called the minute
TicketMaster opened ticket sales (months ago), and they stuck me up in the
vertigo-inducing section (thank God for binocs), with acres of empty seats
all around me. To be fair, I guess these were seats sold in blocks to
companies whose employees didn't show.  But I still think I got a raw deal.
:-(

On the other hand, I didn't stay in my crummy seat long! ;-)

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
From: bose@pico.cs.umn.edu (Ashim Bose)
Subject: Re: REVERSE SINGLES
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:27:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.203206.28595@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
>
>
>
>   It's really a simple concept.   On the first day of play, the
>number one player of one team plays the number two of the other.  So
>the first day between US and Sweden had Courier v. Kulti and
>Edberg v. Agassi.  On the third day (the second being doubles), they
>"reverse" the ordering, and Courier would have played Edberg (had
>he not dropped out) and Agassi played Kulti.
>
>    There isn't much in the way of implications.  Assuming the number
>one players are much stronger than the number two players, then we
>should have had a 1-1 tie after the first day.  Didn't happen though
>since Agassi is a very strong number 2, and one might argue, better
>suited to beating Edberg than Courier.
>
>--

Agassi and Courier had some interesting things to say about having to play
SIngles on the last day, after the semi-final had already been won.  Agassi
thought it was stupid and dangerous because of the possibility of getting
hurt.  Apparently he jammed his thumb in the very first game of his match
with Kulti, though it wasn't serious and he continued to play.  He also said
he couldn't picture himself playing in a meaningless Davis Cup match in the
future.  He said it would be preferable to refund the cost of the tickets to 
the fans, (like they do during the World Series), but that would be too much
to ask from the USTA!  Courier said that is was "very hard" to play on the
last day after all the celebrating from the day before.  From the flamboyant
and outspoken personality that Agassi seems to have acquired, it appears that
he might be ready to take over the mantle of Mr. Tennis (at least in the US)
from McEnroe.

Ashim
From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP Men's Ranking: September 27
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:26:35 GMT

The ATP top 50 ranked singles players:  
    (Through September 27th)

 1. Stefan Edberg, Sweden, 3,577
 2. Jim Courier, United States, 3,574
 3. Pete Sampras, United States, 3,442
 4. Michael Chang, United States, 2,447
 5. Goran Ivanisevic, Croatia, 2,103
 6. Andre Agassi, United States, 2,067
 7. Petr Korda, Czechoslovakia, 2,066
 8. Boris Becker, Germany, 1,944
 9. Ivan Lendl, United States, 1,831
10. Wayne Ferreira, South Africa, 1,806

11. Carlos Costa, Spain, 1,608
12. MaliVai Washington, United States, 1,548
13. Guy Forget, France, 1,513
14. Richard Krajicek, Netherlands, 1,477
15. Michael Stich, Germany, 1,466
16. Alexander Volkov, Russia, 1,284
17. Sergi Bruguera, Spain, 1,283
18. Thomas Muster, Austria, 1,233
19. Aaron Krickstein, United States, 1,222
20. Brad Gilbert, United States, 1,204
 
21. Karel Novacek, Czechoslovakia, 1,127
22. John McEnroe, United States, 1,107
23. Francisco Clavet, Spain, 1,097
24. Amos Mansdorf, Israel, 1,069
25. Emilio Sanchez, Spain, 1,047
26. Carl-Uwe Steeb, Germany, 955
27. Andrei Cherkasov, Russia, 944
28. Andrei Medvedev, Russia, 921
29. Jordi Arrese, Spain, 900
30. Omar Camporese, Italy, 886

31. Alberto Mancini, Argentina, 853
32. Fabrice Santoro, France, 848
33. Javier Sanchez, Spain, 794
34. Magnus Larsson, Sweden, 793
35. Wally Masur, Australia, 789
36. Paul Haarhuis, Netherlands, 784
37. Derrick Rostagno, United States, 768
38. Andrei Chesnokov, Russia, 765
39. Franco Davin, Argentina, 744
40. Arnaud Boetsch, France, 743

41. Jakob Hlasek, Switzerland, 731
42. Guillermo Perez-Roldan, Argentina, 716
43. David Wheaton, United States, 703
44. Gabriel Markus, Argentina, 695
45. Cedric Pioline, France,  664
46. Henrik Holm, Sweden, 662
47. Todd Woodbridge, Australia, 661
48. Mark Woodforde, Australia, 658
49. Stefano Pescosolido, Italy, 654
50. Bernd Karbacher, Germany, 637
 
======================
IBM/ATP RANKING METHOD
======================
Players are ranked by their best 14 results in events offering IBM/ATP
Tour computer points during the previous 52 weeks. IBM/ATP Tour Points
are calculated by adding tournament category points and bonus points
together. Tournament categories are: Grand Slam, Championship Series,
World Series, Challenger and Satellite. Each category has different
point values assigned to tournaments based on prize money awarded.
Bonus points are awarded for defeating a player who is ranked in the
IBM/ATP Top 200.

GeSS
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From: palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Diagonal Stringing.
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:27:58 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Sep25.083329.2092@hplb.hpl.hp.com> rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com writes:
>	Is there any reason why one couldn't string an ordinary racquet
>	diagonally ?

One very good reason, the frame would crack!
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From: probal@brushfire.rutgers.edu (Probal Kumar Bhattacharjya)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: More Davis Cup news please!
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:23:29 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Leander Paes is 19 years old and ranked 253rd. He won Junior Wimbledon and
Junior US Open last year.
	--P.
From: cappiell@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Steven Cappiello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: mid-states usta competion
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:35:10 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



Hi!


I want to compete in Mens Open tournaments in the Philadelphia area.
I've just mailed in my yearly membership to the USTA.
Can someone enlighten me on the amount, location, and times of open 
	tournaments in the Philly area?

Thanks!


STeve...
From: kwan@yangtze.berkeley.edu (Kwan Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Racket
Keywords: tennis
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:53:52 GMT
Reply-To: kwan@yangtze.berkeley.edu (Kwan Kim)
Organization: UC Berkeley

The March edition of TENNIS magazine showed that Wilson Hammer
110, 4.0 si is 10 in power, 9 in Control, 8 for both Comfort
and Manu...bility. And it's light, about 10oz. The scores could
not be higher than that, even in other manufacturer.

I'm a small guy; 5' 4" and 140 lb., about 4.0 player and not a
pounder.

I was using Prince Boron (12oz) then I changed to a lighter one(10oz),
Dunlop McEnroe boron/graphite. It seems that I can control much
better but lacks power. I can not go back to Prince Boron since it
feels much hevier than before.

Is Wilson Hammer going to help me? I need your help, comments, etc.
I am going to get a demo from a shop in a few days.
Is anyone who has this one happy to own it?

Thanks a lot.

Kwan
From: albers@bwl.th-darmstadt.de (Stefan Albers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Davis Cup History Question
Keywords: Davis Cup
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:40:39 GMT
Organization: Betriebswirtschaftslehre, TH Darmstadt

In article <5827@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> mliu@ucsb.edu (Liu) writes:
>From: mliu@ucsb.edu (Liu)
>Subject: Davis Cup History Question
>Keywords: Davis Cup
>Date: 30 Sep 92 21:01:43 GMT

>Hello:

>ESPN showed a short film clip of the year when Sweden beat Germany
>in the Davis Cup final.  I think it's the year of 1985.  It was 
>mentioned that the matches were played on very fast carpet, which
>was set up for Boris Becker.  Sweden (with Edberg) won.  Does anyone remember
>if Becker won his matches that year?

The first Davis Cup final Sweden vs Germany was in 1986 at Munich. Sweden 
won 3:2 (in 1985 Becker won Wimbledon first time, Germany lost 
in Davis Cup 1. or 2. Round)

It was 1:2 after doubles then Becker beat Wilander and Michael Westphal
lost against Edberg by 1 set to 3 (he won the first set!)

I don't know the other results exactly, but I'm sure that Wilander beat 
Westphal. I think Edberg lost against Becker and Sweden won the double!

so long
Stef
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
From: Anne Bilek <anne@boombox.micro.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Racquets and Davis Cup
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X-Xxdate: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:40:04 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:35:38 GMT


In article <1992Sep29.174954.21953@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
Ashim Bose (bose@giga.cs.umn.edu) writes:
>
>Hi everybody, I have a question about the useage of
racquets in the Davis Cup.
>The Swedish team, with the exception of Edberg seemed to
be playing with
>Prince racquets.  Is it possible that the team has some
kinda contract with
>Prince?  Edberg would be exempted because he has his own
racquet contract.
>The Sept. issue of tennis magazine lists Edberg's racquet
as a Pro Staff Classic
>though it seemed suspiciously like the Pro Staff Original
that Sampras was
>using (in the doubles) with the exception of the color. 
If it is indeed true
>that Edberg uses the Pro Staff Original disguised as a
Classic, isn't that 
>blatant deception to fool the innocent fans into buying
the "wrong" racquet
>in the sense that it is NOT REALLY Edberg's racquet? 
Couldn't Edberg or
>Wilson (or both) get sued for this?  I guess it is not
really a life 
>threatening decision  ...
>
While I was watching the US Open I looked *verrry*
carefully at Edberg's racquet, since I'd heard that he was
using the PS Original painted to look like the PS Classic.
 I have both racquets (one broken) and to me it looked
like he was using the Classic.  It had a rounded
cross-section, not a boxy one like the original.  Besides,
I think Wilson would be guilty of false advertising since
they advertise the Classic as the racquet that Edberg
uses.  So in my opinion:  he uses it.

>Ashim

anne
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university of minnesota
anne@boombox.micro.umn.edu
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From: thorn@diku.dk (Peter Tjornsted)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Denmark beats Argentina!!
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:47:39 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

19 year old Danish Davis Cup player Kenneth Carlsen lead Denmark up into
the World Group. He won both singles against no 32 & 41 on the ATP-list
Alberto Mancini & Gabriel Markus. And in the double with Morten Christensen,
he beat Argentinian Olympic bronze-medal winners J Frana/C Miniussi.

Kenneth Carlsen lost his serve 1 time in the three matches against world class
players. Certainly a coming man in the tennis cirkus.

Peter alias thorn@freja.diku.dk
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