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/ hpcc01:comp.sys.palmtops / everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser) / 10:35 am  Apr 10, 1992 /
edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil) writes...
>I set PASSWORD /A on my HP-95, causing a password prompt every time it
>is turned on.  This usually works fine, but on occasion the HP-95 does
>not respond to entry of password.  So far, this has happened just twice,
>each time the first time the 95 was turned on in the morning.  When the
>On key is pressed, the password screen comes on, but then there is no
>response from the 95 to any key for some time -- maybe 20 seconds, I'm
>not sure.  Typing a password and pressing Enter yields nothing, not a
>beep nor a shut-off.  The 95 also does not respond to On or Shift-On. 
>After a bit of playing, the 95 goes off, and then it acts normally when
>it is turned on again (it accepts the password).

This is the first report I've seen of this kind of behaviour, and no idea
what might be happening.  Is the AC adapter plugged in sometimes and not
other times?  Was the machine always turned off the night before by pressing
the ON key, or did it sometimes time out and shut off by itself?  If the
AC adapter was plugged in sometimes, did you turn the machine off, or did you
leave it on (it won't time out with the AC adapter plugged in)?  Did you have
an alarm set to go off before 8:00am the next morning sometimes and not other
times?  Those are the kinds of things to focus on in trying to figure out what
may be going on.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
----------
I have been using the password /a for about a month. I experienced the same
symptom while turning on my HP95LX. I have also noticed that it happens only
if you are on the main screen(all applications are closed) when the HP95LX
was last powered off.

I hope this help.

Lai Wong

From: jsm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Marvin)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:33:02 GMT
Subject: Re: pocket modems and the HP95LX
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

In comp.sys.palmtops, edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil) writes:

> In article <JEW.92Apr7102126@sunquest.sunquest.sunquest.com>,
> jew@sunquest.sunquest.com (Ward...  James Ward) writes:
> 
> >I just purchased a Megahertz modem and found that it doesn't work with
> >my HP95LX.  When I plug the modem into the serial port, the display
> >goes blank. 
> 
> Keep playing with it before you return it.  The 95 behaved funny for me
> too (with a direct line, not a modem).  It seemed to _do_ things without
> me telling it to do anything if data were transmitted to it on the
> serial port.  Try closing all applications and going into Communications
> mode before you plug in the modem.  Make sure all the settings are
> right.  After plugging in the modem, if you don't get a response, wait a
> while, press control-break, et cetera.
> 
> 
> 		-- edp (Eric Postpischil)
>                                 "Always mount a scratch monkey."
>                                 edp@alien.enet.dec.com

A lot of battery powered modems use DTR (pin 20 on a DB 25 connector) to
turn themselves on, in order to conserve battery power. Since the HP 95 LX
does not provide DTR, these modems won't work with a standard cable. This
may be your problem.

If you are willing to build a custom cable, you can get some of the
non working modems to work with the 95LX. Check your modem manual to see
if it provides either CTS (pin 5) or DSR (pin 6). If it does, wire a cable
that has a jumper in the plug that connects CTS or DSR to DTR. If you
do this, be sure to unplug the cable (on the modem end) when you are not 
using the modem.  As long as the cable is plugged in, the modem will be on, 
and you will drain your batteries unecessarily.

I haven't actually tried this, but I think there is a good chance that it
will work (at least on some modems).

	John Marvin
	jsm@fc.hp.com
From: ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu (Patrick Palmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: HP95LX backups and lharc
Keywords: backup. archive, lharc
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:53:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics

I am trying to figure out an efficient way to backup the HP95LX.  

I have tried one way to moderate the tedium of copying data files one
by one to another machine: creating an archive file on the HP95, so
only the archive file needs to be copied.  (Obviously, the number of
such archives is dictated by the amount of free space you have
compared with the amount you have to backup.)

I found lharc (on eddie.mit.edu) and have used it to construct
archives which I have transferred, un-archived, and checked.  It works
fine.  I couldn't figure out how to archive entire directories (and
directory trees).  This lharc does not work exactly like the Unix
version.

There is no documentation built in (lharc h -- maybe it was lharc ?, I
forgot which one worked -- results in a message about not being able
to find a file, so it apparently knows about help but can't find the
file).  Where can I find the documentation for lharc on the HP95; or
lacking that, how can I make the HP95 version of lharc archive entire
directories?

I would welcome additional information about lharc and suggestions for
more efficient backup procedure than file-by file copying to another
machine.

Pat Palmer (email: ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu)
 
From: howard@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Howard Price)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:31:28 GMT
Subject: .PBK to MS-Win CardFile ????
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSG-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

Hi All

Does anybody know of a way of converting LX .PBK files to MS-Windows
CardFile format? 

Answers on a postcard please ;-).

Howie


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From: jsm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Marvin)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:27:47 GMT
Subject: Re: re. backup mode
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

> "Too fragile" . you must be kidding. Do you mean to say that you have never
> hung up you desktop PC and had to re-boot? I just can't believe that.
> Also, why are you resetting your RAM disk? I have had my 95LX since Nov
> and have never destroyed anything on the disk. I have had to do a warm
> boot a number of times, but that leaves everything intact. I have also
> had to cold boot 4 or 5 times, but even then, I have to reset only the date
> and time, and all is back to normal. You _must_ be running some very strange
> software. You also mention reloading the OS. I am beginning to believe we are
> using different machines. The OS on my 95LX is in ROM and is always there.
> Was your note really about a 95LX or a different machine <g>.

The software doesn't have to be too weird; just buggy. Parts of the ram
disk are directly accessible via direct memory reference. If a program
writes to memory outside of its "normal" address space, it will trash the
ram disk. The ram disk implementation checksums the data, so once you write
over a portion of the ram disk (even one byte), you don't have any option,
other than to do a hard reset. I wish that we could run chkdsk to fix this
problem.

I also hate the fact that a cold boot forces you to reset the time and date.
The 95 should instead show the current time and date, and ask if you want to
reset it, in case it got trashed. I like to keep the time fairly accurate,
and it is a pain to have to get a time check (via WWV) each time I lunch
the 95.

	John Marvin
	jsm@fc.hp.com

Note: I work for HP, but not for the folks who are responsible for the HP95.
I learned the above through experience, not through any special insider 
knowledge.
From: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP-95 password /automatic
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:48:51 GMT
Reply-To: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Okay, it happened again this morning after I rebooted and did not run
any non-HP applications.  I pressed On, typed my password and Enter, got
no response, and pressed On several times -- on the tenth keypress after
(not including) the initial On, the HP-95 turned off.  It responded
normally afterwards.

From rebooting (with Control-Alt-Delete) to this morning, I had run only
the Filer (including running a .BAT file which makes a directory listing
in another file to aid a backup), Communications (Kermit), the
Appointment and Phone applications, and Lotus 1-2-3.  I don't think I
used Memo or HP Calc.  I did not use Derive or any other non-HP
applications.  The only non-standard involvements I can think of are the
APNAME.LST file (which was present, but I didn't use any of the keys it
assigns) and my owner-picture file (C:\_DAT\PCX\SMILE.PCX).  That makes
me wonder if the picture/business-card application tries to do something
with the date at midnight but messes up because the picture file is not
TOPCARD.PCX and so the date is suppressed.  But that's just a guess.

Oh well, it's not serious, so I guess I'll live with it.


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: 95LX COMM program
Keywords: default drive
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:24:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Apr14.112444.27317
Distribution: usa
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

bull@noao.edu (Frank Bull  CCS) writes:

:)Is there any way of changing the default drive from c: to a: in the built-in
:)comm program? Space is limited on my c: drive and kermit transfers have a 
:)tendency to fail when c: runs out of space.

On the same note, is it possible to switch the current (default)
directory?  I get tired of uploading to C:\ and then using the filer to
move it to _DAT (or worse yet, giving the full path name to the file.)

The one last thing I miss is sending multiple files from the 95LX to a
PC.  I can send multiple files from PC->95LX, but not the other way
around.  The file selector doesn't have any (obvious) way of tagging
files and then sending them.  Kermit is a batched protocol, so why do we
have to suffer in sending one file at a time from the 95LX?
-- 
Chuck Tomasi             |     "Mom, it's Data.  I heard you know
chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |      how to turn him on." 
spool!cserver!edsi!chuck |                    -Wesley  "Datalore"
------<Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton Wisconsin>------
From: kanefsky@src.honeywell.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: wizard/hp95lx
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:36:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: src.1992Apr15.223651.21708
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center

In article <6384@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.155117.16534@csun.edu> vcmgt0j7@VAX.CSUN.EDU writes:
>>Wizard's software is better designed, phone book, memo (truly what it means), 
>>appointment book (especially its weekly view), and outline programs are very 
>>well conceived. Its keyboard is better.
>
>OK, I'm lost. I've never had a Wizard, having philosophical objections to a
>machine that has a computer in it that you can't get to, so I'm not familiar
>with HOW the Wiz' apps are better. I find the phone book and appointment
>calendar perfectly usable, the keyboard is fine, and I only use the memo
>editor for writing short notes to myself. (Bigger documents? That's what the
>machine on my desk is for.) No outliner, unfortunately, but that can be
>overcome.


The Wizard's built-in apps are generally much more polished than the HP's
apps.  For example, the calendar display looks more like a calendar than
the HP's display, which basically just looks like a bunch of ASCII text.
The Wizard would show you a really pretty bar graph of the day's
appointments:  white where there were no appointments, grey where there were 
appointments, and black where there was a conflict.  Little touches like that
make a big difference to me (I also found the Wizard's display much
easier to read.  It looked like black-on-white rather than blue-on-green).
The thing I really liked about the memo and outliner was that you accessed them
by content rather than by some arbitrary name and location in a filesystem
(don't you hate having to pick a name and a directory for every little thing
you want to jot down?).

Nevertheless I ended up with an HP because I felt the advantages of the
HP far outweighed the disadvantages.  For one thing, there's nothing stopping
anyone (including myself) from writing *better* apps than the Wizard has.
Lotus 123 blows away the Wizard spreadsheet (in features and performance)
and the expense of the Wizard spreadsheet negates any cost advantage it
may have had over the HP.  You can effortlessly switch applications on
the HP whereas you couldn't always do that on the Wizard (in mid-sentence
for example).  The HP calculator wipes the floor with the Wizard
calculator.  The macro capability of the HP is wonderful. In *some* ways,
the HP keyboard is better, especially if you do a lot of calculations and
you need a numeric keypad (the Wizard doesn't have one).  The infinitely-
adjustable non-glare screen on the HP is much better than the 2-position 
screen on the wizard which is prone to glare (although, as I mentioned, the 
characters look sharper (no pun intended) on the Wizard).

All these advantages to the HP are in addition to the obvious ones:  Much
more memory for the price, expandability, DOS compatability, smaller size,
larger display (twice as many lines), standard slot for expansion cards 
(instead of proprietary), etc.

--
Steve Kanefsky
From: jeff@vme.heurikon.com (Jeff Mattox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP 95LX to Mac?
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:08:46 GMT
Reply-To: jeff@vme.heurikon.com (Jeff Mattox)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

Using a Mac with the HP 95LX is easy, and it works fine.

1.  For hardware, I have a Mac IIci (25 MHz 68030 CPU).
It connects to my HP 95LX via a serial cable that has a Mac serial
connector on one end, and the HP serial connector on the other.  That
cable is available from EduCALC (it is sold for the HP 48, which
has the same type of serial connector as the HP 95).  You could also
build you own (slice an HP-to-PC and a Mac serial cable together).

2.  For Software, I have Universal Soft PC (which makes my Mac look like
an IBM-PC).  It emulates the Intel instruction set, so it runs "slow",
but the net speed is equivalent to the HP 95.  I use HP's Connectivity
Pac software (running under Soft PC) to transfer files back and forth.
It is easy to do because the HP 95 Filer allows you to "tag" file
names and then transfer them using one command.  Soft PC also lets you
access files on DOS diskettes (if you have a Mac Superdrive,
as in the IIci).

If you don't want to use the Connectivity Pac or Soft PC, then Kermit
will work (but you must use binary transfer mode to avoid getting extra
characters added to your files).  Although Kermit works, it is slow
and is inefficient because you have to push many keys to get
transfers going.

The bottom line: The HP 95LX works great with a Mac host.
From: lisa@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Lisa Stroyan)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:33:23 GMT
Subject: Re: ylisp, freyja 1.3, diet, DC95
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

In comp.sys.palmtops, john blue <jblue@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:

>freyja : I am using the systems manager compiient freyja. It does not
>seem to work with diet loaded as a TSR. here is my autoexec.bat file

>This allows freyja to work ok. but when i take the rems out reboot and
>try start freyja nothing happens.

That's odd.  My autoexec.bat looks very similar, and I am using both
DIET and the system manager compliant version of freyja (at the same
time).  Have you tried other EXMs - do they work?  If not, it seems
you are seeing the classic DIET vs EXM problem, but you also seem to
have the same fix to that problem that I have...

One thing to check - make sure that your freyja.ini file doesn't allow
for too much memory; perhaps there is not enough to go around.  That
could explain freyja not working and other EXMs working fine.  

Anyway, here are my files, maybe they will help.

Good luck,

Lisa


Autoexec.bat on A:

	ECHO OFF 
	CLS
	ECHO autoexec.bat on A drive executed
	ECHO ' '
	PROMPT $P$G
	SET PATH=C:\;C:\_DAT;C:\_SYS;A:\BIN
	A:\bin\diet -z > nil:
	A:\BIN\DIET -Z -P -TC:\ > nil:
	ECHO DIET Installed as a TSR
	CED
	ECHO CED Installed as a TSR
	PAUSE
	$SYSMGR

Config.sys on a:

	SHELL=COMMAND /E:512 /P
	DEVICE=c:\ANSI.SYS

apname.lst on A:

	A:\BIN\FREYJA.EXM,BB00,Freyja Editor

freyja.ini file (minus comments) from c:/_dat:

	scr m
	scs j
	key j
	spe j
	pa1 p
	swa 40
	met m
	rig 40
	tab 4


Lisa Stroyan
HP Software Engineering Systems Division (no relation to the palmtop division)
Fort Collins, CO
lisa@fc.sde.hp.com
From: fjh@bbn.com (Frederick J Hirsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: wizard/hp95lx
Date: 15 Apr 1992 14:32:02 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

1. There has been some discussion of why the wizard is better than the hp95.
Could you please provide more details as to what is better? Also, why did 
you get the 95 if you were happy with the wizard?

2. has anyone compared derive to the hp48?

3. can anyone tell me (please!) how to write an add-in for lotus 2.2
 (in the 95). I'd like to be able to select a range of cells, and then feed it 
 to a c-program, and then put the results in another range of cells. Is this
possible?

Thanks

Frederick (fjh@bbn.com)
From: usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP95LX backups and lharc
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:24:20 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <1992Apr14.185330.15185@midway.uchicago.edu> ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu (Patrick Palmer) writes:
>I am trying to figure out an efficient way to backup the HP95LX.
>

If you are backing up to a PC and have DC95 and DCS95 you can use
REPLACE with the /D option (available in most by not all versions of MS-DOS)
to copy only those files which have changed. This is method I use. You can
also use XCOPY to copy files across directories. I believe XCOPY may have
a "copy only changed files" option also.

My backups are run from a BAT file on the PC which loads DC95 and then
runs REPLACE with the appropriate options. I do nothing but start the
BAT file on the PC and DCS95 on the 95LX.

Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:35:26 GMT
Subject: Re: HP-95 password /automatic
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil) writes...
>I set PASSWORD /A on my HP-95, causing a password prompt every time it
>is turned on.  This usually works fine, but on occasion the HP-95 does
>not respond to entry of password.  So far, this has happened just twice,
>each time the first time the 95 was turned on in the morning.  When the
>On key is pressed, the password screen comes on, but then there is no
>response from the 95 to any key for some time -- maybe 20 seconds, I'm
>not sure.  Typing a password and pressing Enter yields nothing, not a
>beep nor a shut-off.  The 95 also does not respond to On or Shift-On. 
>After a bit of playing, the 95 goes off, and then it acts normally when
>it is turned on again (it accepts the password).

This is the first report I've seen of this kind of behaviour, and no idea
what might be happening.  Is the AC adapter plugged in sometimes and not
other times?  Was the machine always turned off the night before by pressing
the ON key, or did it sometimes time out and shut off by itself?  If the
AC adapter was plugged in sometimes, did you turn the machine off, or did you
leave it on (it won't time out with the AC adapter plugged in)?  Did you have
an alarm set to go off before 8:00am the next morning sometimes and not other
times?  Those are the kinds of things to focus on in trying to figure out what
may be going on.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
From: st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Alastair M. Bor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: HP95LX
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:26:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr6.212603.15165
Reply-To: st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

Yesterday I bought a brand new HP95LX (unopened) at a charity auction for
$270... I was really psyched because I was the only one there who knew
what it was... so noone else bid on it!!!!!!!!!! In any event... I am
an avid HP user (I have already an 11/15/27/38/32/48SX etc..) and I was
always waiting for an opportunity to get a 95LX (I also have a 
Wizard 128K (european multi-lingual version which now might go up for
sale)). I have been sporadically reading this newsgroup.. but since
there is not much Wizard talk and since I did not have a 95LX I often
fell behind in the threads... Could someone please tell me where
I can get a FAQ file on the 95LX? If there isn't one... could someone
tell me all the 'hidden' things about it (like the secret reset button
on the 48SX and the 'secret' sysevals). Also if there are any bugs I should
be aware of please tell me...
Thanx,
-Alastair Bor
st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
From: john blue <jblue@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: appointment book note problem
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 17:47:34 GMT

Hi,
If there is a note attached to your appointment in the Appt book and
you would like to edit it, specifically add a line to the beginning,
you have to first cursor down or cursor left 
then move the cursor back up to the
first line then hit enter. Just hitting enter when yu go into the note
will not work.
John Blue
jblue@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
From: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP95 rom cards
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:53:05 GMT
Reply-To: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <ku18ufINNdqr@news.bbn.com>, fjh@bbn.com (Frederick J Hirsch)
writes:

>Do ROM cards for the HP95 execute directly from ROM or do they need to 
>run from RAM? My impression is that the PCMIA (?) interface is 1.0 so
>it does not support the 2.0 cards  which can run from ROM.
>
>Can someone please correct me? Does derive run from ROM?

Derive runs from RAM.  The DERIVE.EXE file is 236064 bytes.  If memory
is partitioned to 626K (the maximum the 95 allows), CHKDSK reports
622336 bytes free, so there's around 380K available to Derive for data. 
That's plenty.  This is when you run Derive after rebooting, so MS-DOS
gets control before the HP-95 System Manager.  You can also run Derive
by using the System option from the Filer, in which case there is
additional data still present in memory, leaving about 80-100K less for
Derive.  That's still enough for most things!


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops