From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re:  WCW Goings-On
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:54:32 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

>Herb Kunze writes:
>>Robert McMullen writes:

>> DOC & BAM-BAM?  Not!  It's so funny how "the grass is always greener
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>  I was surprised to hear you say this.  In the past, you've mentioned
>  that you are a fan of All Japan.  In that case, you must have an
>  understanding of all the submission-type maneuvers and wear-down

I like All Japan, and not to be a smart-ass, Herb, but they're the WCW 
& NWA champs, *not* AJPW champs.  I understand, and LOVE, Watts' move 
toward getting sub holds over, but I think the transition was very 
rough.  (Note here:  Doc n' Gordy are not _my_ favorites in AJPW; I
really admire the brutal Tsuruta/Taue v. Misawa/Kawada (and/or Kikuchi)
feud.  Plus, how many times has Stan Hansen held the Triple Crown, et
al, by winning with The Lariat [tm]?  I also haven't seen an AJPW tape
in quite a while since my friend Kunji is on 6 months in France...)

PS-in answer to Dan Fielding, I knew RS was in UWF, but he surely isn't
   someone I'd associate with Watts for many years...maybe you're right,
   though!

>  holds that take place in the typical All Japan match.  Almost all
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>                          .
>  submission maneuvers).  The problems with the Gordy & Williams vs.
>  Steiners matches that we've seen are:
>    - the Steiners don't sell well working this style of match

True, and Doc and Gordy are much more accomplished at this "art"...look
at the way BamBam sells the Frankensteiner!

>    - while they do pick up the pace, they don't build to the *really*
>      hot final 5 or so minutes like in All Japan

And they can't touch the "hot" entire 30 minutes of some NJPW matches, 
not to mention some of those one-hour Tsuruta/Misawa brawls...

>    - actually, the Steiners don't sell well working any style of match

At least they do the job...on cable *and* PPV!

>    - those same moves that get incredible pops in All Japan rings
>      aren't "over" here, so the crowd doesn't get into it. 
>  I don't know why they don't turn up the workrate for the final few
>  minutes.  Watts is trying to get submission moves over.  It will

Maybe soon...but as you said, the submission-type weardown moves only
set up the killer finishes; not many WCW wrestlers are ready for this,
but I believe the Steiners are some of the closest...

>> RICK RUDE?      The best heel in the US today, bar none.  ANYONE who
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>  Don't waste your money yet.  Dusty & Bill are bringing the tapes
>  of the tourney back from Japan and it's still likely we'll see 
>  some or all of it on a WCW broadcast.

I've been a bad boy...better read those Observer back issues!  (Meltzer
said this a couple weeks ago, but I read about it last night)

>  Agreed about the snake.  I was glad that Jake didn't drape it
>  across Sting after laying him out.   

Yea, verily!        ;-)

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