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From: brett@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Program(me) guides for post-T. Baker stories
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:40:43 GMT
Organization: A Planet Of His Own
Originator: news@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu

I'm looking for episode guides in the form of Lofficier's Red Guide for
Davison-era and later. Lofficier's guide, of course, ends with Logopolis.

Any help is appreciated.

						- greg
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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: Sixth Doctor
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:07:02 GMT

bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney) writes:


>In a previous article, rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy) says:

>>That is because Peri lacked personality, not the Doctor!  She spent a lot
>>more time simply whining than most other companions (with the possible
>>exception of Joe, Peri was THE most helpless companion I have seen, which
>                                     ^^^^^^^^
>Helpless?????  HELPLESS?  HELPLESS!!!!  How about when she got the gun from
>the 'Bobbie' in the CYBERMEN story (can't remember the title).  I don't
>think she's as helpless as you think.

How about if we use the word...irritating?  Does that fit her better?  ;)
I didn't hate her, but I might have perhaps rathered another...more 
appealing character.  I know everybody has different tastes, so...did
anybody out there like Peri?  We won't flame you...honest! ;)

>"A number of the Doctors were(are) arrogant only some are more arrogant
>than others."  .... Animal Farm - George Orwell  (OOPS wrong quote!)

I suppose, but Davidson had very little!!!  And that fact that he was in 
between the Bakers amplifies it even more!

 		Mystic
 
 (alex.soto@analog.com)

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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Deborah Watling
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 05:10:44 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis) writes:

- In article <1992Sep3.202243.4249@ulowell.ulowell.edu> pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu
- >In article <s0ViqB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
- >>Here's one for us!
- >>
- >>It was nice to see a complete DW serial with Deborah Watling featured.
- >>Interesting how she portrays the innocent Victorian girl  Victoria Waterfie
- >
- >It sure was....WHAT A HOT BABE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-
- Sigh. She's old enough to be your mother. (not that that appears to be saying
-
- What is it about ulowell that attracts the immature?  First mark & matt diant
- and now this.
-
- --
- John Francis                                johnf@apollo.hp.com
- Seen passing on the net:  Spotted Owl - the *other* white meat!

What was it that I said about sexism originally ?

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
From: jcg8@po.CWRU.Edu (Jude C. Giampaolo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Digitized Voices
Date: 15 Sep 1992 15:54:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone know where I can find (FTP, etc.) cybermen voices,
and Daleks sayinsuch original things as "Seek, Locate, 
Exterminate"??????

Thank you in advance!

-- 
Jude Giampaolo / jcg8@po.cwru.edu
                     Case Western Reserve University 
"We're only at home when we're on the run..."
		"Dreamline"-Rush
From: HISC9016351D@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MAMMONE,Robert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: ALL OUR TOMORROWS: The Doctor and Causality
Date: 5 Sep 92 11:23:28 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

In <torresce.715548951@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu writes:


> 
> When:  I have followed previous threads and believe the Doctor either was 
> Rassilon or was involved with him alot (or possibly Rassilon set it up so one
> person could do the things that the doctor does). This is where the doctor 
> obtained his 'time protection'.

>Your theory as a whole is rather interesting, and demands furhter looking
into.  However, I've a problem with the above comment about Rassilon.  I
personally don't believe the Doctor to be Rassilon.  It just doesn't seem
to fit.  Why would Rassilon seek to escpe the Time Lords, then submit to
a forced regeneration and then exile to Earth, then another trial, then
meet his final incarantion in his tomb without recognising himself, then
another trial.  Also, the Doctor being involved with Rassilon att some
pruior date doesnt wash for me given that in The Five Doctors, when all bar
one of the Doctors met Rassilon's spirit, Rassilon didn't recognise the Doctor
especially the first incarnation, and given the fact that time Lords seem
to be able to recognise each other without speaking.  All right, people
will point to stories like Silver Nemesis and Remembrance of the Daleks
as some sort of indicator that the Doctor met or worked with Rassilon
at some prior time, but whenever he's directly confronted, the Doctor
tends to hedge or deflect.  But anyway, this is all my opinion, and I'm
looking forward to all the flak that's coming my way. Cheers, 
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Immortal Companions:  The Doctor's Age & His Companions
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 19:07:54 GMT

In article <18arngINNqk5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> sdh5@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Hurley) writes:
>
>Ahem.  There is something in _Doctor_Who_ that has been bothering
>me for some time.  Has anyone ever noticed that while there was
>no companion gap between the Doctor saying he was 745 towards the
>end of Tom Baker's Era, and Colin Baker saying he was 912 in
>"Russerection of the Daleks" (I think, or was it "Revelation?",
>whichever it was took place on Necros).  
>

While you have noticed something very interesting, you have some errors
here:
The last time Tom Baker mentioned his age, he said it was in the 750
year range and that is in "The Leisure Hive," and Adric was not yet
a companion in that story.  However, K9's repairs and Romana's dress
directly link "Leisure Hive" to "Meglos" and "Meglos" is directly
linked to "Full Circle" thanks to dialog in "Full Circle."


>Consider the following information:
>	1.  Adric was a companion when the Doctor said he was 745
>	2.  Adric was still young when Tegan came on board.
>	3.  Tegan was maybe (at most) three years older when she
>	    left the Doctor's company

OK.
>	4.  Apparently almost no time took place between 
>	    the episode in which Tegan left ("Revelation of the
>	    Daleks"--or whatever the name of the episode that had
>	    Davros escaping from prison) and "Planet of Fire" in
>	    which Peri joined (This can be inferred from both
>	    Turlough and the Doctor's interaction with Turlough)
Correct. and by the way it is "Resurrection of the Daleks" that
Davison starred in.  An easy way to remember is by Biblical order of
the books, i.e. the Resurrection of Christ occurs well before the
book and the events of Revelation.


>	5.  Peri was at most a year older when the Doctor said
>	    that he was 912.

True, but he said "I'm a 900 year old Time Lord," rather than 912.


>From this information it seems that while the doctor aged nearly
>170 years, his companions, in an unbroken line, aged at most
>five years!  
>
>Thus the question arises:  Do the Doctor's companions age while 
>they are traveling with the Doctor in the TARDIS?
>
>All relevant theories are welcome.  Please contain all responses
>to this Board.
>

Here are a few ways out of this:  when the Doctor says "years" we don't
know which planet's years he is referring to, i.e. Gallifrey's or Earth's
or somewhere else's.
Or perhaps the Doctor and Romana spent a lot more time in E-Space than
we were told (perhaps leaving Adric behind somewhere for a while then
picking him up again much later), or perhaps it was some strange effect
of the Gateway, or perhaps when the Doctor was deaged in "The Leisure
Hive" it didn't rewind him back all the way to 750.
Then there's the old favorite of the Doctor leaving his companions
behind for a while and then picking them up later,
Or perhaps this one: we have no idea of the ageing rates of Trakens
so perhaps a lot of time passed between "Time-Flight" and "Arc of
Infinity" before we met Tegan again.
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sixth Doctor 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:26:22 EDT
Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres) writes:
> Colin reminded me of Tom also, but Colin did not have nearly as much charm
> as Tom did for which it was easy to overlook his cockiness.  Also, Tom had
>characters warm up to him easily - Sarah and he were close, Leela would ha
> easily given her life for him (as with practically all Tom companions),
> Peri just seems to be stuck with Colin and not much warmth coming from
> both.
That is because Peri lacked personality, not the Doctor!  She spent a lot
more time simply whining than most other companions (with the possible
exception of Joe, Peri was THE most helpless companion I have seen, which
did not endear her to me overmuch...but she still clashed with the doctor
humorously.)

> This is why Tom is my #1, and Colin#2.

Yup, I agree with you on this point.  I grudgingly concede (grudgingly
because Colin was the first Doctor I ever paid much attention to) that Tom
is indeed better, and I like him just a hair more tha Colin.  (Damn, I hate
being part of the crowd!)

>I personally think the Dr. has a certain justification for being arrogant
>- he is not human, he is better  (physically) and knows more (mentally), is
>much more slick, cunning and just basic intelligence besides being
>telepathic, having many more biological defense mechanisms that we do,
>etc...  He is also of a prestigious race, AND within that race, he is of a
>prestigious chapter!

Yup again.  I see nothing wrong with him being arrogant.  Don't understant
why it seems to bother some folks...

> 		Mystic
> 
> (alex.soto@analog.com)


"Sometimes what you say is going to fly right in the faces of the 
powerful people who really run this world, but you don't care...you know 
it's your place to challenge authority..."

                                          Rockerboy
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: what are the latest DWM and DWB on the market
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:23:10 GMT

In article <6ia4qB6w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>Okay, a question.  Recently  managed to pick up DWM 189 and heard of DWB 103
>Question: what are the latest issues out at this time.
>
>Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,

Sitting right next to my keyboard right now is DWM Issue 191, dated 30th
September (meaning 192 comes out about that date).
Can't speak for DWB though.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: tex@cs.nott.ac.uk (Timothy Emanuel)
Subject: Re: Hello and some Questions..
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 17:58:09 GMT

In article <-403774@nemesis> quiz@nemesis.UUCP writes:
>K   The Dalek Invasion of Earth
>Q   The Space Museum	      	(Only the shell of one is seen)
>R   The Chase	
>[...]
>5J  Destiny of the Daleks 

Hey, if we're being this detailed, dont forget Shada, where one is seen
briefly on Shada itself.

>6K  The Five Doctors		(only one seen in first part of show)

Tim.
From: david@scilab.lonestar.org (david burgess)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: current production status
Keywords: production
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 23:55:44 CDT
Organization: Science Lab; Arlington, Texas

pjaffe@next06epsl.wam.umd.edu (Paul I. Jaffe) writes:

> Is the BBC still doing it or did they give it to a private production  
> company or what? 
The BBC was made by some regulation has been restricting the BBC to 
making fewer programs.
> 
> Is Dr. Who dead? 
The BBC has said that Doctor Who is too valuable to "kill" and they are 
just "revamping" the series so that it will not be a tired old show.
> 
> Is Sylvester McCoy still the doctor or are they now up to #8?
According to the BBC or whoever annonced it(sorry, I forgot) McCoy is 
offically a former Doctor.

			Don't Eat Yellow Snow

David Burgess
david@scilab.lonestar.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: c9107143@cc.newcastle.edu.au (I AM THE ONE THE ONLY ONE JUST GIVE ME THE PRIZE)
Subject: Pescatons On CD
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:52:58 GMT

Does anyone know anything about the supposed release (in the Uk at least)
of the Pescatons on CD ???
They were giving it away as a prize in one of the DWM competitions.
Does anyone know if it's available, and better still if it's available
in Australia???
thanks
later
Kurgen
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:44:19 EDT
Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:

> >>
> >>3) After many deaths, suffering and neglect by self-centered, greedy man
kin
> >>   Christ does take over the reigns of power.
> >
> >Except Usenet, which is granted to his most faithful subject, Dave Yadall
ee
> >>
> >>Again to follow up these 3 points, follow up to talk.religion.misc.
> >
> >What, and allow all us Dr. Who fans miss out on the fun of a Yadallee fla
me
> >session?
> >
> >Honestly Dave, are you REALLY linked to reality?
> >
> >Do you by any chance have a license to carry a firearm (or perhaps two
> >or three licenses?).  
> >
> >Nicholas (I've seen one Yadallee post too many this week) Fitzpatrick
> 
> Hang about here Nicholas.  Flaming somebody is one thing, but stepping
> on the deeply-held beliefs of a lot of people is another thing entirely,
> and I think you're walking the tightrope here.   Ease off the bile on
> religion.  Just because the right-wingers are the most vocal and least
> respectful people in religion today doesn't mean it's all bad.
> 
A:  People who believe things should either be able to back them up with
proof, or expect to get blasted for being morons when they spew their trash
all over others who are annoyed at being preached at in the Dr. Who
newsgroup.

B:  I and quite a few others happen to believe that it is science, not some
outmoded, outdated mumbo jumbo, which will better mankind.  I happen to
believe that people are masters of their own destinies, etc., and that their
are responsible for their own actions.  I look forward to the future, I look
with awe upon the things we may one day be able to achieve.  That's why I
like things like Dr. Who or Star Trek, and why I utterly dispise people like
the original poster.  If he chooses to remove his own brain and buy into the
supernatural dogma, fine, but he has no right to step on what other people
enjoy, and when he does, he should expect his own views to take a drubbing
as well.  You see, realists have one advantage over dogmatists:  we have
reality on our side.

Yup, I think the guy oughtta be slagged...


"Sometimes what you say is going to fly right in the faces of the 
powerful people who really run this world, but you don't care...you know 
it's your place to challenge authority..."

                                          Rockerboy
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From: jogulin@zen.fia.dmg.ml.com (Joseph Ogulin)
Subject: Re: Long live Sylvester McCoy
Organization: The Rift from Here to There
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:43:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.213224.15116@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug31.192416.21206@wam.umd.edu> mrmuon@next09pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:
|> >Do you have any Idea who the "gods of Ragnarok" were?
|> In a way, yes, they are figures from Norse mythology.
|> As to how they pertain in the story, all we do know and all we need to
|> know for the story is that the Doctor has met them before somewhere,
|> they inhabit another time/space, and they have formidable mind powers
|> which the eye-mirror could reflect back onto them.

Come on... they're the Beeb's upper-level management...
"As long as 'Doctor Who' amuses the public, it shall survive."

-- 
==> "You never f**king know the answer when it's important." --The Doctor <==
Joe Ogulin

jogulin@camelot.fia.dmg.ml.com		joe@monroe.pilot.dmg.ml.com
jogulin@apollo.stevens-tech.edu		gcs_jogulin@stevens.bitnet

Disclaimer:  The above article is solely my opinion and does not necessar-
ily reflect that of my employer.  The content is my responsibility alone.
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Pescatons On CD
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:24:41 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep11.143830.14950@wam.umd.edu> mrmuon@next01pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:
>Unless you have already heard "the Pescatons" and liked it I recomend not  
>buying it. I bought and read the novel and I can assure you that it is  
>almost certainly the worst story that anyone has ever attempted to pass  
>off as Doctor Who. Although thats not saying much given the high normal  
>standards of DW; "the Pescatons" really is bad. 
>eg: the novel describes a man looking through his telescope "morning,  
>noon, and night".

I agree the novel of the Pescatons is atrocious, however the record
isn't *quite* as bad.  For instance, that appalling piece of science
that the astronomer could actually see Pesca and actually see the ships
lifting off was added for the novel only.  
Actually, the record kind of grows on one a bit.
Record, OK, book, very bad.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Battlefield
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:32:28 GMT

In article <H9kmqB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>I was looking over BAttlefield recently and notice 2 things.
>
>1) Britain was using metric for travelling distances.  That will be the day.
>   Just having travelled that British motorways, I doubt the UK full ever
>fully metrify itself, and I mean stones, gallons, miles are still common.
>Doubtful they would die in 7 years, even with Britain having a king.
>

Interesting.  I know the Brigadier was giving orders using metric distances,
and since UNIT is an international organization, I would imagine that they
are using metric as their standard.


>2) Brigadier - " Speak Czechoslovakian?"  Could someone please tell
>Aaronovitch that it is either Czech or Slovak !!  Eeekkkkk!!!!!!!

Ben may have known, perhaps he put that in deliberately as a joke on
the Brigadier.  Most likely though he didn't know, since at the time of
writing it was still one country which wasn't destroying itself.

>
>Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
>userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
>God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
>Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.


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From: wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 16:37:41 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:

- wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey) writes:
- 
- - yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
- - (bunch of idiotic drivel from Dave deleted)
- -
-   Seems to me that there is a fool who is balding.
- 
- 
- - Doomsday is right around the corner, is it? Pray tell, where do you get
- - your information on this matter. And, more importantly, what does any of
- - your pseudo-fanatical babble have to do with Dr. Who?
- -
- - Also, if Doomsday is right around the bend, why are you all fired up
- - about starting a new series of Who? Rather pointless, isn't it, since
- - we're all going to snuff it anyway.
- -
- -
- - --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- - -   "It's up to you." - JFK         - this message brought to you by     -
- - -   "B-ko no BAKA!" - Project A-ko  - Warren Frey, BAKA's resident Hentai-
- - --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- 
-  Your fololish mocking tone tone does not surprise me.  Reminds me of critics
- of Winston churchill.  I was saying that some of these shows are idealistic,
- and that somehow we should stop looking to idealism and start to look at the
- consequences of reality.
- 
- But then again Warren, you are someone with 0-credibility, as pointed out by
- one of your high schol chums.
- 
- Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
- userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
- God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
- Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.

Well.....if anyone can decipher that fine bit of posting, they're welcome 
to, because I sure can't. Furthermore, nobody I know from high school 
would have the low taste to hang around Dave, at least nobody who I 
consider a) human and b) worth hanging around.

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From: Ric_Goldman_-C@hqops.3mail.3com.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Genesis and Slipback Tapes
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:12:00 GMT

HISC9016351D@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MAMMONE,Robert) writes:
>(Both audio).  I was thinking of buying it, and was wondering if anyone 
>in the U.S or U.K. could tell me whether the Genesis audio tape is the
>complete version, or a truncated one?  Cheers

It's truncated, but still worth the money.  I especially like the Tom 
Baker voice-over narration to fill in gaps.  (I thought Cheers was in 
Boston).

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From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Program(me) guides for post-T. Baker stories
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:09:22 GMT

L'officier came out with a revised, 2nd edition Program Guide some time in
1988-89, which contained ALL stories up to Season 25, and prelims on Season 26.
Should be available... hell, just about anywhere you get the novels.

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