From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Colonic irrigations
Keywords: alt medicine
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:06:54 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul29.153305.14225@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
>
>In article <15858@pitt.UUCP>, km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>|> In article <1992Jul27.154942.593@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
>
>Try again.  Putting light bulbs, coke bottles, electric
>toothbrushes, etc. up one's butt is stupid.  But why do 
>these people do it?  Locking the bathroom door and stimulating
>themselves with something that can be dangerous, to try to avoid 
>the *shame* of how they get pleasure.  If there wasn't such a 
>denial that it's OK that it feels good then people could get
>the same pleasure *and* not end up in an ER with something
>strange stuck where they can't get it out.
>

In 1992, there is very little "shame" associated with buying a dildo
or vibrator, especially through the anonymity of mail order. Look, I'm
a doctor and I've seen a lot worse things than having mayonaise jars
up people's butts, and I have no reason or desire to deny that some
people get pleasure that way.  I'm not quite a prude, and I was not
making fun of homosexual people. Statistically, more heterosexual
individuals and couples engage in anal activities than homosexual
individuals and couples anyway. Yes, I was making fun of one
particularly group: stupid people. Not the synapse-impaired type,
because those people have no choice in the matter, but those lacking
common sense, which these days appears to be optional equipment. If you
are going to stick something up your butt, use something designed for
the purpose.

>There were probably a lot of people who had secondary or
>tertiary syphilis because they were too ashamed to go to 
>doctor with something they got from doing something they
>shouldn't have.  I guess it's PC as well to say that the
>societal attitudes that contributed to that were bad?

Sorry, but in my book, anything is fair game for humor,
especially the PC types. Not quite everything is society's
fault. The posting to me sounded like typical PC whining,
and I love to hate typical PC whining.

>|> I really think, as a service to these people, that we should
>|> pressure Congress to require warning labels on the most common
>|> of these objects, so that people will know that, despite
>|> their suggestive appearance and handiness, they are not
>|> supposed to be inserted into certain orifices. Or perhaps
>|> we should require strings on Coke bottles.
>
>Your personal agenda is showing, Ken.  In no way was that what
>I was implying.

Oh my gosh, you're also humor-impaired.

>|> How sad that there is so much pressure to deny that
>|> some people get pleasure out of dimembering other
>|> people and eating their body parts...
>
>So you would equate anal stimulation with dismemberment?

Good grief! Again you misinterpret. The original posting implied that
what was wrong was denying that certain people got pleasure
in certain ways. What I was trying to indicate was that the
pleasure of an activity has nothing to do with its advisability,
i.e. that denying the pleasure existed was not the issue at all.
If I had intended to post something bashing homosexuals, I
would not have made it subtle. I was trying to make fun of
the way some people think, which obviously, was TOO subtle.

>From what I've read anal sex is a major heterosexual activity,
>more common than among gay men.  Are all these happily married
>monogamous breeding tax-paying PTA-attending lawn-mowing
>butt-fucking people on a par with Jeffery Dahmer?

Ditto my last paragraph. In the future I will try to
identify humorous and subtle postings with disclaimers,
so you will not get a headache.

>I will *never* understand some people's fear of their 
>asshole.

I'm not afraid at all of assholes. Some people think I am one.

 -km