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From: mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Dork of the Week
Reply-To: mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:44:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.032957.14801@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, saqx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>I suggest we start a contest:
>
>                         DORK OF THE WEEK
>
>Let me nominate East Carolina's head coach Steve Logan for the first award.
>After his Pirates had been soundly thumped by the Syracuse Orangemen 42-21,
>giving up 634 yards in total offense, scoring two quick touchdowns in the
>fourth quarter against the Orange second-string defense for most of their
>points, he was quoted as saying, "If that's the No. 10 team in the country,
>I'll go tee it up with them again in 30 minutes."  Huh?  Of course, he's
>wrong, that *wasn't* the No. 10 team, they're the No. 9 team now. :-)
>But seriously, he argued that ECU missed some opportunities.  He wisely
>didn't mention SU's fumble inside the ECU 10 and John Biskup's 3 missed
>easy field goals, which by all rights should have given the Orange another
>16 points for a total of 58.  Logan claimed, "We can compete with anybody in
>the country."  I agree.  But I don't care how many yards you rack up (522
>yards passing for ECU), if your opponent is scoring 58 points on you, you
>aren't going to win many games, and your boasting is going to sound
>downright asinine.  
>
>Other nominations?

I just want to second yours athough the Arkansas athletic director
should certainly be considered.

Too much was expected from ECU this year. The local media in North
Carolina has made ECU their darling this season. One local paper has
even gone as far as to keep a "Coaches Diary" for Steve Logan with
weekly segments.  ECU is simply not a top 25 team this year and the
emotion from last year cannot change that. I'm not trying to put
ECU down, last years success has been and will continue to be a boost
to the program but they simply lost too much talent to keep playing 
at that level. 

There's nothing wrong with a coach being optomistic and sticking up
for his team but Logan really sounded like an idiot after that game.
He needs to face the fact that his team got whipped and start getting
ready for next week.



KRM
From: marsden@eta.cs.fsu.edu (Jonathan Marsden)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: top 25 (FSU down, UF up)
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:09:09 GMT
Reply-To: marsden@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science


 In article <j.m.crant.1.9.0@nd.edu> j.m.crant.1@nd.edu (Mike Crant) writes:
 >>In article <1992Sep7.035956.11117@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> azzarito@cse.fau.edu
 >(Doug Azzarito) writes:
 >>
 >> I know it's useless to ask this question but I'm going to anyhow. Can
 >> someone explain to me, why FSU can post a respectable win over Duke
 >> and fall one notch in the poll, while the gators rise two after beating
 >> no one?
 >
 >      Because the pollsters saw my influential posting last week!!! :*)  
 > I questioned the Gators drop of two notches the week before when 
 > they (and Michigan and FSU) didn't play anyone.  An alternative 
 > explanation is because, to paraphrase an FSU scholar (I know, an 
 > oxymoron), the Seminoles suck.

You are right about the oxymoron part except it should be after "Seminoles
suck" rather than "FSU scholar".

Jonathan Marsden
(marsden@cs.fsu.edu)
From: gregb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Begay)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:37:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Shameless OU woof
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college


I agree with the basenote writer's obviously well thought out
comments!

GO SOONERS!

GregB
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From: mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Reply-To: mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:53:34 GMT

>
>his excuse to the nbc reporter minutes ago was that he wanted to see what
>coverages michigan was going to be in.  bullshit.
>

I expected alot of disscussion about this . I agree with you, he
has to be kidding if he expects anyone to beleive he had anything
but tie on his mind in the last minute. You don't run two running 
plays, let the clock run even though you have a time out, and then
throw a couple of hail mary passes and expect to win. . If he 
wanted to see the coverages, why not run a pass play and throw the 
ball away to stop the clock. Lou was playing it safe and I'd respect 
him more if he addmitted it

KRM
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Baylor upset (was Re: Colorado vs. Baylor)
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:28:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron

c1h3384@rigel.tamu.edu writes:
>(Kevin Rodgers) writes...
>> 
>>After reading about Baylor's upset at the hands of Louisiana Tech, I was
>>ready to turn up my Woof-i-nator, but the Buffs are taking the Bears
>>very seriously.  They're mostly concerned about the heat at game time,
>>and Baylor's conservative offense against LaTech, which indicates they
>>didn't show much of what the Buffs will really face on Saturday.

I don't see why La Tech's win over Baylor was such a 'big' upset.  Tech
had *8* tough road games last year and went ~8-3.  This year they have 7
games on the road.

If AD Jerry Stovall could spare the big bucks and schedule a few more at
home, Coach Joe Raymond Peace could develop some real winners in Ruston, LA.

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From: sbanerj@eos.ncsu.edu (SANJEEV  BANERJIA)
Subject: Re: FSU vs Clemson
Originator: sbanerj@c00488-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: Sanjeev Banerjia
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:14:40 GMT


This really was a pretty exciting game!  

Overall impressions:

- FSU had a big advantage in team speed & athleticism, but Clemson definitely
  looked like a stronger, more physical team
- Tiger QB Richard (?) Moncreif has a long ways to go if his team is gonna
  stay in the hunt or the ACC title (then again, many are saying that the 
  title was decided last nite).
- I felt all game long that if FSU could just reduce the # of mistakes on
  offense, esp. Ward's incredible lack of touch on some throws, they could've
  won with more like a 14-17 pt. margin.

All in all, I was impressed by Charlie Ward's "intestinal fotitude".  It took
guts for him to lead that last td drive after (another) 4 interception game.

I think FSU will beat NCSU next weekend by about 17-21 pts.  Although I'll
pull for the upset, I don't see it happening.

Sanjeev
From: mitgardt@math.ufl.edu (John Mitgardt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND vs FSU vs Michigan
Date: 12 Sep 92 09:25:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Florida Department of Mathematics

In article <68042@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>marsden@sync.cs.fsu.edu (Jonathan Marsden) wrote:
>}
>}   Ok, I'd agree that Michigan is still a powerful team, but they (along with
>}   the rest of the Big-10) have lost something over that past five years
>}   (recent times?).  There is a new group of powerhouses in college football
>}   (e.g., FSU, Miami, Washington, Florida).  Because of Michigan's
>                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>}   playing style, they can't surprise any of these top teams in the BIG games.
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>}   Smashmouth football is passe.
>
>Apparently we have a Florida State fan here who didn't watch last
>year's Florida State Michigan game.  Michigan wasn't as good as
>FSU last year, but it was hardly the result of an antique "smash-mouth"
>offense.  You may recall that the Wolverines produced the first Heisman
>Trophy winning *receiver* in nearly 20 years last season.  (Tim Brown
>doesn't count.) 
>
>billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) wrote:
>}
>}Anybody know the average standing in the recent past, but longer than last
>}2-3 years?  How about last 5?  Mark M?  I'd bet you'd be surprised Jonathan
>}by the by where the finished.
>
>For the last six seasons, Michigan has finished in the top 10 all but
>one (1987) and Florida State has finished in the top ten all but one
>(1986).  It doesn't appear to me that Michigan has exactly been left
>in anyone's dust as a top football power, and certainly *much* more 
>impressive "other the last five years" than Florida or Washington.
>
>-- 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
> "There was such speed in her little body, and such lightness in her
>    footfall, it is no wonder her brown study astonishes us all."


   But Mark I think you miss the point of the Mich basher, the big Ten is
incredibly overrated and UMich is the main benefactoir of this. Do you
wanna compare Big10 schedules vs Pac10 schedules or even worse vs Florida
schedules? I think the bitching about Michigan was that they were so highly
touted but always lost when they weren't beating up on pathetic big ten
fodder. 
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From: asami@cs.Berkeley.EDU (Satoshi ASAMI)
Subject: Re: Cal vs. Purdue (was: Weekly top 25)
Reply-To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu
Organization: CS Div., Dept. of EECS, UC Berkeley
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 06:03:13 GMT

In article <19511@ector.cs.purdue.edu>
        gritter@cs.purdue.EDU (Carl R. Gritter) writes:

 * Purdue 41 Cal 14.  No not a typo!  I was at the game.

Oh, you lucky guy!  (Actually, I feel lucky not to be there. ;)

By the way, were you among the crowd that stormed into the field and
teared down the goal post?  I wanted to do it once. :)

 *                                                         Purdue had NO
 * turnovers in the game (the second successive season opener with no
 * turnovers).  Purdue capatilized on Cal mistakes and didn't make many
 * of their own.

Yes, and you also committed very few penalties.  I heard on the radio
you had only two penalties in the first half, one for offside and the
other for celebrating too much after a touchdown (although since the
Cal announcers were saying "did they celebrate _that_ much?" I doubt
if it was really a deserved penalty).

On the contrary, in some arguments+ near the end of the game, the
defensive co-captains of the Bears (Barsala and Travis) were thrown
out of the game.  What a shame.  I'd like to apologize to the Purdue
team and fans.

 *                                 Purdue turned conservative in the
 * second half, both on offense and defense, and Cal did move the ball
 * pretty well 

Well, if you are up by 35 points by halftime, why bother moving the
ball?  The clock will run down and take care of the game. ;)

Anyway: hats off to Purdue!  Congratulations for the great showing and
good luck in conference play.  Hope we can meet you again soon (the
next opportunity is the 1993 Rose Bowl but nobody thinks we will be
there ;).

Satoshi
asami@cs.berkeley.edu
Go Bears!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: atchison@frankenstein.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Robert Smith/OSU's crushing of Louisville
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:27:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.182541.23552@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>I don't think Cooper's game plan changed a bit during the entire game.  He 
>never really did "open up" the offense.

I'm not sure what you expected to see, but the Bucks had several new wrinkles
on display Saturday (maybe they didn't show them all yet!?!).  Shifting the
TB into a wideout spot was definitely new.  Although they did not complete any
passes to that spot on Sat., it has some real interesting possiblilties...
Also, did you notice that on some passing downs, we actually used a straight
drop for once, instead of rhetorical play-action on every pass.  The QB no
doubt appreciates being able to occasionally look at the field in front of him
during the drop-back.  When was the last time you saw the Bucks use a shotgun
formation?  Whaddya expect, BYU?

>What the Buckeyes did show was that they are susceptable to the deep pass and 

Ok.  One guy got beat deep one time (and he was actually not 'beaten' down the
field, but for some inexplicable reason he slowed up when the pass was thrown).
I'd say it's a tad early to be proclaiming them 'susceptable'(sic) to anything.

>that their front seven gets tired in the fourth quarter.  On offense, it was 
>appearent that Kirk Herbstreit should not throw the ball down field.  He did 
>well on throws underneath the coverage and on out patterns, but as soon as he 
>tried to throw over the linebackers, he got picked off.

Geez.  I am going to have to defend the poor kid to his grave (which may be an
early one at the current rate of criticism).  He went 16/20 in his debut as THE
number 1 QB.  He threw one int. on a bad pass, and one when the nose of the 
ball took off and floated.  Heaven forbid we should look at 16/20 as a positive
thing.  Again, it may be a little soon make any sweeping general statements
about the offense (like they should not throw downfield).

>- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
>- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
>- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
>- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------

Don't ever look a the 'up' side of anything.  We might begin to instill 
confidence in somebody.  How many Dick Fenlon's are there out there???

GO BUCKS!!!
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
 Mark Atchison, a.k.a. <atchison@cis.ohio-state.edu>; Graduate Student in The
Computer Science Dept, THE Ohio State University (NOT an Ohio State University)
		Any plagiarisms seen above are not my own...
From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hmmm Texas to Big 10!!!
Date: 11 Sep 1992 17:19:04 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: custard.think.com
Keywords: n

In article <1992Sep9.191823.9997@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>, mckinzie@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark McKinzie) writes:
|> zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:
|> 
|> >Looks like my calling all conferences post needs to be taken more 
|> >seriously.  We have reports on the radio that the University of 
|> >Texas has agreed to join the Big 10, and the have been "confirmed
|> >by the UT athletic dept."  
|> > 
|> >Can anyone in Big 10 country confirm this?  Where do you guys think
|> >A&M will go?  SEC, Big 8, Big 10, Pac 10, WAC (*laugh, had to throw
|> >that one in*)   :-)
|> 
|> Well, if UT and TAMU come to the Big 10, then we don't have
|> to change the name of the conference (big ten plus
|> UW, UM, Northwestern).
       ^^^
I know you mean U of Mich., not my beloved U of Minn. !  Hehehehehehehehehehe...
I can't stop laughing............

-Tom
Go Gophs....

P.S. How bout UofMn, UW, Northwestern and Purdue forming their own
     conference ? Now, what would we call this ? 
P.S.S Lots and Lots and LOTS of smileys inserted here!!!!!!!

|> 
|> -- 
|> Mark McKinzie          	|    We just won't eat on Sunday
|> mckinzie@math.wisc.edu 	|    Got to buy him a limousine
|> UW Dept. of Mathematics	|    Somewhere to live, somewhere to pray. 
|> Madison, WI 53706      	|               -RJD, "TV Crimes"-

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=============================
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Product Support
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From: drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Keywords: n
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:44:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep10.172644.5885@chpc.utexas.edu> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:

[lots of stuff about UT, A&M, TT, and Cougar High joining Big 8 deleted]

I agree with Jay, but I also think that Baylor and Tulsa would also be good ad-
ditions.  While I like throttling Rice, TCU, and SMU, I would rather put quali-
ty teams like Colorado and Nebraska in their place.  And, of course, we play
OU every year, but it would take on added importance.  Hey Jay, you still have
DeLoss on the phone?  Let me talk to him... :-)
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: So, has the Purdue bandwagon started?
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:13:31 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

Could any of you Purdue posters tell me if the student ticket sales have
skyrocketed this week?  I'm assuming so, since I noticed a large amount of
bandwagon fans while I was there, and the huge upset over Cal would
certainly be enough to get the bandwagon rolling.

This always irritated me when getting basketball tickets, as I was a true
fan who went to every game, no matter how they were.  In 1987-88, the
tickets were almost impossible to get (many were turned down), because
Purdue was supposed to be good.  A few years later, when they weren't
supposed to be good, many tickets were left over, although the AD
eventually gets rid of these.

I hate bandwagon fans!!!
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy)
Subject: Re: Virginia Tech
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:45:24 GMT

Actually it's...


UVlAme!!!!!
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Miami vs. Colorado in '93 & '96
Keywords: Kansas State, Big 8, Big East
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:00:50 GMT
Reply-To: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Buffalo Stampede


Colorado's proposal to play Miami at the Orange Bowl next season instead
of Folsom Field has fallen through (!).  It hinged on Kansas State's
willingness to play back-to-back future games in Boulder, but KSU
refused, so CU will play the two-game series as originally scheduled:

Sept. 25, 1993	Miami @ Colorado
Sept. 28, 1996	Colorado @ Miami
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From: johndoe@asp.inmet (johndoe)
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
	<1992Sep13.215844.3295@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
	<19518@ector.cs.purdue.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:33:54 GMT

>> Or, should Michigan disguise a zone coverage as man-to-man, Mirer could, 
>> thinking his primary receiver is in single coverage, throw into the zone and
>> give Michigan the ball just beyond the 20 after the interception.
>
>C'mon, if you can't trust your Candidate For The Heisman Trophy (tm),
>who can you trust?  Are you really trying to say that Mirer is that
>inept?  I said, "throw the ball out of bounds if there was any doubt."
>*Any* doubt.  If Mirer is really the Heisman candiate that the
>NBC/Notre Dame football announcers would have you believe, he should
>certainly be able to avoid this.

this is one point i feel really hits the nail on the head, and something i
meant to point out with more emphasis in my original post.  i don't know
that i consider mirer a heismann candidate qb, but if notre dame is
espousing him as such, then they should at least have the guts to let him
try to lead his team to victory.

>Of course, Elvis "Candidate For The Heisman Trophy (tm)" Grbac
>couldn't, so maybe it is too much to ask.

well, i consider this a two-sided mistake.  grbac certainly should have
heaved the ball out of bounds instead of trying to throw it away downfield,
but the michigan coaching staff, already in makable field goal territory,
should have been trying to position the ball in the middle of the field, and
perhaps improve their fg position slightly.  still being a notre dame fan at
that point, i didn't think too much about the wherefores of grbac's
ill-fated pass; i had just been happy that he threw it.  now, i'm wishing
they would have tried a shovel pass to ricky watters or (whoever #6 was).

>sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:

-johndoe
From: ds4@soc13.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: TOP 10 TEAMS: WHO HAS THE EASIEST SCHEDULE?
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:30:31 GMT

In article <3SEP199217404956@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep2.214358.21420@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li) writes...
|> > 
|> >	In the Top 10 teams, who has the easiest schedule? 
|> >	UW?
|> >	Texas A&M?
|> >	FSU?
|> > 
|> 
|> According to my computer, which bases all its conclusions on strength of 
|> schedule:
|> 
|> Team		Average Schedule Strength
|> 4 Florida St		1.3
|> 1 Miami			1.21
|> 3 Notre Dame		1.20
|> 8 Penn St		1.20
|> 10 Syracuse		1.20
|> 2 Washington		1.12
|> 5 Florida		1.06
|> 6 Michigan		1.05
|> 7 Texas A&M		1.01
|> 9 Alabama		0.88
|> 
|> R Dendy


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