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From: shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Don't put program shadows on Desktop!
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:13:30 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, OH

In article <1992Oct8.170936.13611@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones) writes:
}In article <1b1mpbINNcfm@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> bewhite@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (MacroMan) writes:
}}  This is strange.  I have several programs shadowed from the drives
}}object, and I have them renamed to something more friendly too.  I
}}have experienced no problems with them so far.  The only problem I
}}have had so far is renaming folders from the drives object.

}I think I mistyped in the original article of this thread. The method of
}choice is to use the "create another" option in the programs pull-down
}menu. Then create the program in the folder of choice. This process
}allows the program to be renamed without effecting the original (and
}causing problems. If you rename a shadow say by removing the extension
}from the name you WILL have problems with the original. These can be 
}subtle. For example, I was unable to use the original to "create another"
}with default settings after renaming the shadow. (Also the redbooks say
}very explicitly NOT to put shadows of programs on the desktop that's 
}good enough for me).

So, I'm ARA (Against Redbook Advice)!  Little did I know.  I, too, have a
number of program and folder shadows on my desktop.  Indeed, almost every-
thing I've added to the original desktop is a shadow.  I've been very
careful to modify only the original and never the copies.  This is easy to
do since a shadow's right-click menu has a locate->original selection
(click "locate," then click original from the resulting submenu).  The
original objects and their shadows are fine so far.

Larry
-- 
Larry A. Shurr (las@cbnmva.att.com or att!cbnmva!las) speaking only for myself.
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Third floppy under OS/2
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:29:52 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <16030@umd5.umd.edu> adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:
>Hey all, I figured out how to get my third floppy drive to work under OS/2.
>My first two are 3.5" 1.44s and the third is a 5.25" 1.2mb...  Here's how
>I did it (thanks to Tim Sipples for the advice on the 360k fix...):
>
...

I've had 3 floppies for a while. I have a generic "UFDC-100 Universal
Floppy Diskette Controller" (manufacturer unknown).  It has onboard
BIOS to allow the 3rd and fourth floppies to be accessed without
drivers.

Anyhow, it comes with two sets of floppy cables, so I hooked my first
two floppies (1.44MB) to the first cable, and hooked my 3rd floppy
(1.2MB) to the second cable.  I then set the jumpers on the card so
that the BIOS will recognize the drives.  Since the card uses its own
switches, CMOS settings are irrelevant, but I set them to the A:/B:
types to prevent warnings on bootup.

Anyhow, here's the way it responds under various systems with no
drivers:

DOS 3.3 and 4.0: Three floppies are drives A:, B:, and C:.  DOS thinks
                 there's a D: (unused cable position) and any access
to D: results in not-ready errors after hanging for a minute.  Hard
volumes begin at E: and work down.

DOS 5: They re-lettered everything (a real pain when I upgraded!) so
       that the first two floppies are A: and B:.  Then come the hard
drive partitions (C: and D:), then extra floppies (E: and the
"phantom" F: which still hangs the system before returning not-ready.

OS/2 2.0: The DOS 5.0 lettering scheme is still used, making the first
          two floppies A: and B:.  Then the hard drive partitions,
then the third floppy.  Interestingly enough, OS/2 2.0 detected that
there really isn't any fourth floppy, and the phantom-F: drive does
not exist.  I installed nothing into OS/2, my "drive e:" icon was in
the drives folder with a (3.5" - oh well, I had to change it) floppy
icon.

The only basedevs that I used was the standard IBM1FLPY.ADD driver.
-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 08:24:59 MDT
From: earlyd@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Early)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: Logitec C-7 mouse won't work


In article <tdukes.921010171202@volt.ee.eng.auburn.edu>, tdukes@eng.auburn.edu (Todd J Dukes) writes:
>I have been using OS/2 since April and think its great. I finally convinced
>a friend of mine to give it a try. He was a little uncertain so he opted for
>dual-boot.
>
>24-hours later we still can't get the mouse to work. Otherwise the installation
>seems to go ok.
>
>I thought I saw mention of a problem with the Logitec C-7 earilier, but
>since I have a mouseman I paid little attention.
>
>Is there a quick fix for this problem?
>
>Todd

Check the mouse carefully.

Some Logitech mice are NOT C-7.  The little mouse that
clips onto the side of a poratbel computer is not C-7,
and I would't be suprised if others aren't C-7.

Check it out.


Dave Early
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why XGA-2?
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:45:17 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <harris.718983355@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris) writes:
>Here's another...
>
>If you are really picky, the pointer is now a hardware object.  (Sometimes
>referred to as a "sprite" in other architectures)  Therefore, it doesn't blink
>when you draw under it.  This frees up cpu cycles.  Each time you move the
>mouse, several images must be drawn.  If you have a hardware overlay, you
>can avoid much of that.

Very important as resolutions get higher, and cursors need to be
composed of more and more pixels to have the same apparant size.
Especially when you get into modes with more than one byte per pixel.
-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Subject: Has Service Pack been delayed?!?
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:18:50 GMT

Does anybody know if IBM is still unofficially shooting for October 15th
as the day for releasing the Service Pack?

I know that it is an unofficial date, but I sure would like to know if
it has been delayed beyond the unofficial release date.

Thanks...
From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Desktop SETTINGS doesn't show up!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:21:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.Bw52GK.Fz0
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University


	I recently came upon a nice 256 color 1024x768 res bmp of neptune that I thought I would put on my desktop background.  Since then I have wanted to change the bmp background.  I choose the settings option from the desktop menu and the hard drive is accessed.  The only thing is that nothing comes up on the screen.  When I check the window list it shows the settings window but it seems that it is in the background.  I am not able to bring it into the foreground to change this, now boring, .bmp.  If someone 




out there knows how to remedy my situation I would very much appreciate your help.  I have tried accessing the settings through using the keyboard instead of the mouse but that does not seem to work!

I appreciate any help that I may receive.  Thanks.

Jake

**____________________=============-==============______________________**
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                                      as cigarettes and far more expen-
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: Why XGA-2?
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:46:35 GMT

am66@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Alexander Maldutis) writes:

>I'm curious:  why all the big fuss about XGA-2?  I agree that IBM should be 
>commended for once more introducing a new standard, this time with real
>functionality, bu the specs of the board just don't excite me.  Given that
>ATI will be shipping its Ultra Plus and Pro series, which do 800x600 in 24
>bits, 1024x768 in 65K and 1280x1024 in 256, what are the real advantages of
>XGA?  As a current owner of an ATI Ultra, I find 1024x768x256 too limiting
>for OS/2, especially since IBM still has not implemented dynamic pallette
>adjustment [it's pretty sad when my WIN-OS2 session has a much prettier
>background than OS/2, not to mention file viewing and such].  To my 
>knowledge, the ATI boards won't be that terribly more expensive than the XGA,
>and give you putatively faster performance with more colors.

>What's the deal?

Will there be os/2 drivers for the 1280x1024x256 mode? if so when?
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
[.sig on vacation]
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Logitec C-7 mouse won't work
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:19:28 GMT

In article <tdukes.921010171202@volt.ee.eng.auburn.edu> tdukes@eng.auburn.edu (Todd J Dukes) writes:
>I have been using OS/2 since April and think its great. I finally convinced
>a friend of mine to give it a try. He was a little uncertain so he opted for
>dual-boot.
>24-hours later we still can't get the mouse to work. Otherwise the installation
>seems to go ok.
>I thought I saw mention of a problem with the Logitec C-7 earilier, but
>since I have a mouseman I paid little attention.
>Is there a quick fix for this problem?

Please see the FAQ List on this one.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST 2.0f is avail.
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | from 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [For the Internet, vote Clinton-GORE this year.]
From: rvaniwaa@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Latest scoop on the service pack...
Keywords: Service pack
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:39:37 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <Bw21Cs.K4o@dei.unipd.it> jake@nora.dei.unipd.it (Luca Polo) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.221432.14674@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal) writes:
><omissis>
>>of the month.  Since they are now saying 1st half of October, I figure
>>the earliest we'll see an announcement of delay is October 15, since
>>October 16th is in the 2nd half of October!
>>
>No! October 16th is not entirely in the second half... it is in the first half
>until 12:00, only in the afternoon it will be in 2nd half...
>So IBM has the possibility of announcing the (possible) delay on Oct 16th...
>:-) :-) :-) :-)
>(sorry, I couldn't resist...)
>- Luca.


Actually, if they try to get it out by 12:00 Hawaii time, then it would
actually be 5:00 EST. :-)  :-)  :-) :-)))

But, then they would be stooping to Micro$oft tactics...  :-) :-)

OOOOOOOH Did I actually say that??????  Somebody wash my mouth out with soap

(Sorry, I couldn't resist either)
-Ronald Van Iwaarden
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: VideoBlaster and OS/2
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:40:39 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Oct12.041431.8667@ncsu.edu> david@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (David Chappell) writes:
> Does anyone know whether Creative Labs' Vedeo Blaster board will work with
> OS/2?  I saw the card demoed at a store and it looks impressive.  The software
> is for Windows, and I wonder whehter it will run OK under OS/2.  Also, I'm
> hoping that MMPM2 drivers will be developed for it, especially considering
> that Creative Labs worked with IBM to develop MMPM2 drivers for their Sound
> Blaster.  Can any IBMers from Boca comment on this?
> 
> For the uninformed, the Video Blaster card displays NTSC and PAL TV signals
> on a PC and allows for image manipulation and recording.

The VideoBlaster is great - when it works. I have installed it several times
for customers and for myself. It seems to like Trident 8900c's and Paradise
video cards best. It likes to have 1meg on the card, too. It will NOT work in
every PC. In fact, my experience is that it will not work in MOST PC's. Of the
ten or so installs I have tried, the majority did not work. This is under
MS-DOS5. 
 
I have tried twice under OS/2....both with a Trident 8900c and a Tseng Labs
ET4000 based card. With my Juko 386DX/40 motherboard and a Trident card, I got
no video at all. None. Blank screen. Yes, it was set up correctly and there
were three of us trying - each of whom have installed it a minimum of ten
times. The ET4000 at least got a picture on the screen - the WorkPlace Shell.
But the video quality was very bad - everything on the screen was "shimmering"
like there was sparkle-dust on it. By this time, it was getting so late, we
canned the whole effort. 

I have seen the video blaster work in one machine with the same video card it
did NOT work with in another. The position of various cards on the bus is a
factor, too. If you buy one, get a full refund promised in writing if you
can't get it to work. 
 
When it DOES work, it's great. But - like I said - most machines don't like
them and won't work.
 
My experience only - your mileage may vary.
 
Steve
   
 
-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opted
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            | looks like we may get a more  
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Service packs vs. 32-bit GRE/Windows 3.1 beta
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:55:24 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct6.051047.8238@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>
>Sure wish y'all had been kind enough to tell us that before hand.

It was printed cleary in the advertising for the beta.  Did you think
that you'd have to re-format to install the beta but not re-format to
get rid of it?  Anyhow, reformatting between betas is common IBM
practice since I can remember.
-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rm3@ornl.gov (MCBROOM R C)
Subject: Re: BETA install experiences/tips
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:32:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.131602.2640@idx.com> gsk@idx.com writes:
>--  Hi.. Some quick lessons from my experiences of the BETA on 2 machines..
>
>1) If there are problems with the install, and you are on a faster machine
>(386/40 was mine).. Try slowing down your machine, and removing any shadowing
>of ROM by your machine. This was one big help for me.
>
Had to also on ZEOS 486/33.
>
>4) I am experiencing several keyboard lockups in the WPS after closing or
>moving a WINOS231 window.. No solution to this yet other than rebooting.
>
I've had this problem if my swap space is inadequate.  I seems that swap
space from closed applications is not recovered and the system extends
the swapper.dat even when you are closing an session.  If there is not
enough room blooie.  15 to 20Mb available is recommended.


Robert McBroom internet: rm3@ornl.gov

From: Timur.Tabi@f347.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Timur Tabi)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: XGA-2 Information...
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:23:02 -0500

MW>I have an Adaptect 1542B SCSI-controller, which is a bus-master.  Can I
MW>expect the XGA-2 busmaster to work in the same ISA system as the Aha 1542B
MW>busmaster?

No.  ISA can only support one bus-mastering card.  If the XGA-2 ISA card works
only in bus-mastering mode, then you can't use it.
___
 * MR/2 1.31 NR * Columnist for "OS/2 Monthly"

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith)
Subject: Re: Bernoulli Drivers - $50?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:41:18 GMT

In article <mr11.719249558@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> mr11@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Mohammad REZAEI) writes:
>I recently purchased a 90 MB Bernoulli drive (HDI's new deal, where you
>get 2 cartridges and the drive for $500). 
>I just got off the phone with Iomega and they said that the OS/2 driver
>was $49. I remember seeing a post before claiming that the drivers were only
>~ $15. Do I have to do something to get this price (talk to the right person,
>etc) or was the previous post erroneous?
>
>e-mail or post.
>Thanks in advance.
>
>							-Mohammad
>
>P.S., why would they charge so much for the drivers?
>I guess a monopoly has some advantages :-<
>

I must be  the only person who thinks that they are fair in charging for  
the driver. I have their DOS OS/2 AND UNIX drivers I cannot agree that they
should give them all away. I think however the following should be the drill
. You can buy a drive with ONE driver of your choice free, currently they 
give you the dos drivers. Maybe they should not give the DOS driver by
 default and allow the purchaser to state which driver they want. 

I should suggest this to them as I was instrumental in getting them to 
bundle disk compression with their DOS drivers. 

MArtin Smith
msmith@netcom.com
From: Luca.Polo@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Luca Polo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Information about video drivers for OS/2 2.0...
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:33:11 -0100

Organization: Universita' di Padova, Italia

In article <1992Oct10.211248.1361@grebyn.com> mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli) writes:
>In article <1b74o0INNcjf@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct10.161500.29370@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal) writes:

<omissis>

>>ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>No Trident! The current Trident drivers are so lame!
>>>
>>>ALL of the above drivers are being written by IBM!
>Agreed.  At first, I was happy that my video card was one of the few
>that happened to be supported.  Now I am irritated that my video card is
>the one with slow, buggy drivers that don't implement all the features
>they should (eg VGA graphics in a window).   Recommendations on an
>upgrade?

I agree, too. I get my PC in May, and I was quite happy when I saw trident
drivers for OS/2 2.0. But now it seems that nobody has interest in developing
new releases, and I'm stuck of slow 16 colors screens (I make a heavy use
of seamless, since switching from a full-screen session to another is
annoying; moreover, 256-color drivers have some bugs that leave garbage on
screen when you switch from OS/2 to WINOS2 - this is under 800x600).
If Trident won't release new drivers within a reasonable amount of time, I
think I'll change my video board... how about that 65536-color, 2 MB NCR
board ? :-)

					Luca Polo

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos)
Subject: Re: OS2 BETA - dos emulation not as good?
Organization: UNLV Computer Science
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 06:30:25 GMT

In article <hatton.719093517@cgl.ucsf.edu> hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes:
>You can e-mail compuserve acccounts, and they can e-mail back. You 
>can send beta bug reports to Sam Detweiler:
>
>71075.2430@compuserve.com

I sent a bug report to this address, but never got any acknoledgement.
Do you talk to him very often? I even used the os2prob.txt form...

-- 
Steve Lumos - slumos@cs.unlv.edu
From: gkushmer@jade.tufts.edu (Greg Kushmerek)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 on 386sx - How is speed?
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:30:20 GMT
	<1992Oct13.191005.1093@njitgw.njit.edu> <Bw3Cu2.Jvw@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
Organization: Roger Mellie Enterprises, PLC

In article <Bw3Cu2.Jvw@ucunix.san.uc.edu> loatspa@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Phil Loats) writes:

|   In article <1992Oct13.191005.1093@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
|   >2) The slower memory shouldn't be too much of a problem.  I'd have
|   >   preferred 100ns dRAM on the board, but 120ns will do with a wait
|   >state.  Yes this memory will be slower, but I think your biggest speed
|   >loss will be from 16-bit access across an 8MHz bus, so the RAM speed
|   >shouldn't be as much of an issue as you may think.  I think OS/2 will
|   >detect slow memory and adjust its memory usage schemes accordingly.
|   >
|   I think you are right that OS/2 will detect slower memory.  I would also
|   think that even the slower memory would be faster that swapping to the
|   disk (unless you have a realy fast hard disk). 
|
|   Phil. 

Well I gave it a shot last night - installing a 4 meg above board into
a 16 bit expansion slot (the chips were 120ns DRAM).  It worked OK for
DOS (dual boot) but when I went into OS/2, the booting procedure worked
something like this:


Computer:	Time to get up!
OS/2:		OK, let's see, that's there and this is here but what the
		hell?  <Pause>  Who stuck Valium in the machine?

And from there on in the system was SLOW.  So slow that the mouse didn't
even respond properly.  I shut it down and removed the board.  Everything
is back to normal now.

--gk
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: david@mlb.geomechanics.csiro.au (David Le Blanc)
Subject: Please explain '.inf' files! What are they?
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date:  9 Oct 92 00:01:29 GMT

I have downloaded the ps2asst.zoo, which contains a group of files ending in
'.inf'

These files are not ascii, but are probably something incredibly simple such
as me needing to use the 'help' browser to read them.

If anyone could provide the missing clue i'd appreciate it.


Thanks.
  David
--
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CSIRO Division of Geomechanics,	       :  and a freight train.' the Alien
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: xga-2 questions
Reply-To: jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:32:01 GMT

1) What sort of Win-OS/2 support is/will be offered??

2) How much does the card from radius cost (ISA)?

3) Are they claiming that it will work on 'all' monitors?

4) How many hours will it take to get this to work on OS/2??

						Curious,
						 Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc