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From: fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Fab 5 Freddy
Summary: Joke?
Keywords: Joke?
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:24:25 GMT
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden

There is something that I have been wondering for a couple of days, and I
thought I'd put it here to see what the rest of you think. This weekend I
finally did find myself with some time to sit in front of the TV and what
shows up when I turn it on? Yes, Fab 5 Freddy on his saturday show, doing an
interview of 2$hort.
Fab was asking the pimp something about where he came from, and then said that
a lot of other wellknown rappers came from that part of AmeriKKKA (don't 
remember the name of the place, but that is not the deal here). He listed
some and finally added Hammer to the list. 2$hort was chewing on something, I
think, and suddenly stopped to look at Fab with a wierd smile not really 
knowing if he was joking or what! Fab looked so serious, that 2$hort choosed
to make a fast change of the subject, but he stil had that wondering face.

After that wierd situation, the following video Fab introduced, was one of
Dj Quik. Again 2$hort paused and this time he didn't say much at all.

So here are my questions...

1) Is Fab really serious when he says Hamsterdick is a good rapper? He looked
   really serious and I couldn't see if it was a joke. How many other "real"
   rappers count Hamster as a rapper at all??

2) I personally hate Dj Quik because of the way he sounds and because he is
   using a concept allready overused by N.W.A. I know some people here, like
   my man DAVe check him out, and I have to respect it, but does anyone have
   the 411 on what other rappers _really_ think of Dj Quik and others like
   him. (Or other terribly weak groups like Nemesis, Stereo MC's...)

3) And finally...what is all that Fab uses now calling everyone "Baby!"?? 
   Talk about beeing annoying! Bluh...

Peace to ya'll!

Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: aloke@tfs.com (Minister of Information)
Subject: PE's "Greatest Misses" is out...in The Netherlands.
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:31:57 GMT

Six new cuts, 7 remixes. 

Tie Goes to the Runner		Megablast
Hit Da Road Jack		Louder Than a Bomb
Gett off My Back		You're Gonna Get Yours
Gotta Do What I Gotta Do	How to Kill a Radio Consultant
Air Hoodlum			Who Stole the Soul?
Hazy Shade of Criminal		Party for Your Right to Fight
				Shut em Down

So far, my favorite is the "Reanimated TX Getaway Version" of
"You're Gonna Get Yours"

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Aloke Xerxes Prabhakar
					"You shoulda killed me last year."ice-t
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From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Caveman
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:34:04 GMT
Reply-To: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN


 Caveman recently released their second album called "The whole nine yards... and
 then some". Unfortunately The Principle have left the group to be replaced by
 a rapper called Mc Bee(?). Mc Bee sound a bit like Dre and Skoob of Das EFX.
 Some tracks are good but the record is weaker than their first maybe because
 The Principle no longer provides slamming beats. I have not listened to it 
 very much yet though so I may chnge my mind.
 I also bought Lord Finesse & Mike Smooth's latest "Funky technician". 
 DJ Premier of Gangstarr has produced some tracks and some of them are really 
 dope. My favourite is Bud Mutha using the break ICE T used on You played 
 yourself. There is also a track using the They want EFX break(BTW The track
 by MC Mell'o is called Total eclipse of the art if you happen to read this
 Fredrik). 

 Does anyone know anything about Jungle Brothers?

						-Palle Zetterstrand  
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: stanfomw@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael W. Stanford)
Subject: Need producers opinion/advice
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:25:03 GMT


> 	Sup, shorty-fellaz!  This is TRX (i can't c) and I'm a freshman  
> interested in rap.  Not only the prestige, but just getting a mess of  
> lyrics heard by college listeners.  I have written 4-5 sets of lyrics,  
but  
> have no trax to lay 'em on.  Some consider me "pretty nice", but I don't  
> consider myself gold or platinum material.  I'd like to talk 2 a couple  
of  
> ya'll shorty-producers, shorty- DJ's, and shorty-'rappers' out there.   
Get some input or  
maybe even  
> shoot the giff some!
> 	Yeah, I know everyone and they momma wanna write lyrics, but I  
> like 2 do it just to express myself.  The money ain't that big -a- deal  
in  
> my mind.  Well, I'm oskin' (outty in San Antonian) and I'll B waitin' 4  
my  
> shorty-brothaz to answer.
> 
> TRX (mailbox 1646, BSB 218)
> San Antonio iz Jus' Lyke Compton!!
> Ya gets none -a- dis!!
> 
> Letz get BLACK 2 Reality!
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: A question from Bull City
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:15:24 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

You should not have to pay $1500+ for 2 1200s and a good mixer.  Allowing
outrageousness, 1200s should cost no more than $500 a piece, and thats too
much.  1200s are not the top of the line.  There are turntables that are 
better and cost more(over a G a piece), but 1200s have a proven record.
Technics themselves are among manufacturers that make turntables better than
1200s(i.e. 1210s).  Just don't be fooled by salesman at stores trying to tell
you things like, "These Gemini XL1800IIs ar just as good as 1200s.  You'd
only be paying for the name and rep if you bought 1200s", which is something
I dont understand why a salesman would tell someone when they don't stock
either turntable and they would have to be ordered anyway.  But yo, anybody
got any 411 on the Numark turntables?  Looking strictly at specs, they read
better than 1200s.  

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 10:52:46 CDT
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject:    PE Sneak Preview

What up, ya'll?
The only TRUE hip hop radio station in Chicago (88.5, WHPK) gave us a sneak pre
view of the new PE album.  I can't remember most of the new cuts, but one that
does stand out for me is "Tie Goes To The Runner."  The track kinda reminds me
of a remixed remix of "Anti-Nigga Machine," and that track is all that... For
some reason, the rest of the new shit escapes me :( ...
On the other hand, I do remember the Remix side, and it goes as follows (accor-
ding to my memory):
MegaBlast:  Totally redone... More than just the drum track that appeared on
   "Yo..."...They added a bassline, more samples, the whole 9...

Party For Your Right:  Also totally renovated... Chuck and Flav don't share the
   same lyrics like on "It Takes a Nation...", they split the song up between
   them.  It also features new samples as well...

Louder Than A Bomb:  It has been remixed, but I can't remember the specifics...
   What struck me as odd is the line "Professor Griff knows/yo I ain't milque-
   toast..." remains in...

You're Gonna Get Yours:  (IMHO) One of the most aggressive remixes PE has ever
   done appears here... I think the remix for this one is called the
   "Terminator X Getaway Dub" version, and if you've heard it, you know what to
   expect... if you haven't, don't expect any lyrics... just TX bringing bits
   and pieces in to the mix...

How To Kill A Radio Consultant:  Remixed by Chuck Chillout.  The remix is a lit
  tle slower than the original, and some of the horns have been taken out...

On the whole, the new PE album is nice, but the new side isn't as aggressive as
I am used to hearing from the Bomb Squad (or the IGMOF)... Also, the track from
the Mo' Money soundtrack is featured...

I wish this update would have been more complete, but like I said, memory fails
me, so any corrections and updates are welcome AND appreciated.

Peace Out, from the Minister of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner...
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: Fab 5 Freddy
Keywords: Joke?
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:03:34 GMT

In article <fedde.715951465@Minsk> 
fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:
>1) Is Fab really serious when he says Hamsterdick is a good rapper? He looked
>   really serious and I couldn't see if it was a joke. How many other "real"
>   rappers count Hamster as a rapper at all??

Well, he used to be "good", then went pop, he's more a dancer anyway, in
the style of James Brown. He puts some back into the community, so let's
just say that maybe he's not real popular with the hip-hop crowd, but
when heros are short, why complain? Of course, he is building some
mansion in Fremont, but probably just a summer place, you know how that
goes.

>2) I personally hate Dj Quik because of the way he sounds and because he is
>   using a concept allready overused by N.W.A. I know some people here, like
>   my man DAVe check him out, and I have to respect it, but does anyone have
>   the 411 on what other rappers _really_ think of Dj Quik and others like
>   him. (Or other terribly weak groups like Nemesis, Stereo MC's...)

Jus Lyke Compton is slammin'. It's got content, good hip-hop, great funk
and beat. Why does that sound like it's got a good beat and it's easy to
dance to, I'd give it a 10? Don't tell me, another Don Corneilius
production.

>3) And finally...what is all that Fab uses now calling everyone "Baby!"?? 
>   Talk about beeing annoying! Bluh...

Got me, I've never seen the show, sounds like one worth missing. Is that
a Sammy Davis Jr. impersonation? BTW: I think Too Short was born in
Compton, or somewhere in the southland, but grew up in Oakland. But as
for mentioning hamma, no there is NO comparison. Too Short is a serious
rapper, he's putting his money back into the work and community and it
shows on Shorty the Pimp, a must buy if you like his style. If you're
squeemish about pimps and hoes action, forget it.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Where the F... are they ?
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:15:53 GMT

Being somewhat nicer on this particular review than my partner, I thought 
Serch was a 4/5.  I thought the lyrics were fairly dope, and I was surprised
as hell by the Wolf & Epic production after hearing production they did for
albums by MC Lyte and Laquan.  It definitely shows where the lyrical skills
were in 3rd Bass.  Musically, it reminds me at times of the 3rd Bass albums.
Definitely a good debut effort by Serch.  I'm in no hurry to see what kind of
stuff Pete Nice is gonna put out now though.  Serch can have that 
"Here It Comes Again"("HEre It Comes" remix) though.  Now THAT sounded like 
what I expected from Wolf & Epic, but its a good album.  Pick it up if you see
it.

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
Xref: sparky alt.rap:4467 rec.music.funky:1366
From: d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm)
Newsgroups: alt.rap,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Brand New Heavies
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:27:46 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

dpawson@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Pawson) writes:


<<<ZAPPP>>>>>
>kickin throughout the album - having a real bass player works, and the
>bass will rip your head off.  Some of the lyrics are pretty timid - I
>think Black Sheep are alright, but their jam on Heavy Rhyme Experience
>is wiggedy wack.  I try to ignore the lyrics and groove to the music.

True Absolutely true!

IMHO the best two tracks are those with Masta Ace and Kool G Rap.



>Somebody claimed all the beats sound the same, and I can sorta see
>that.  It does all have the same feel.  But that feel is new and
>refreshing.                                              ~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
I totally depends on what you've heard before...
I think the Idea of one band making music for 6 or 7 rappers is totally
wrong...
Each rapper should have his own BNH to make it dope...
I mean some Shotgun(funk) tracks are dope but I wouldn't wanna just listen 
to them..
I mean what would the world be without Parliment, etc..
>out.  
>					Word to Arch Bunker,
>							Dave

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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: what's up and concert info
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:03:05 GMT
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <92255.113717U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>, Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>While I'm here, has anyone heard anything about Redman's album?  I heard his
>first single and I can't wait to pick it up...
>
>Peace out, from the Minister of Rage...

I picked up his single, 'Blow Your Mind' b/w 'How To Roll A Blunt' and the name
of the album is, "Whut? Thee Album."  I'd guess it should be out late September 
or early October.
                                                  T-Dub
                                                  SHYGUY Productions
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:36:58 IST
From: Shlomo <X42529@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Fab 5 Freddy
 <92253.150309X42529@BARILVM.BITNET> <BuBqw2.684@acsu.buffalo.edu>

In article <BuBqw2.684@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v081jwnc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
(William E Neuburger) says:
>>Probably because he's positive , is from the same neighborhood as P.E., and
>> they know each other.
>
>I don't assume you mean geographicaly.  I thought that P.E. was from
>Hempstead L.I. (and Freeport), while Hamma (not hitting in NY) is from
>"Oaktown".

sorry, apparently my geographical mistake.........:-)
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Caveman
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:01:22 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Not to dis, but that Lord Finesse & DJ Mike Smooth album is a few years old.
"Return Of The Funky Man" is their latest.  He's no longer on the label he
was with when "Funky Technician" came out, and he is quick to dis them too.
Another brother got jerked.

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Fab 5 Freddy
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:21:30 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
:
|The reason I hate him is personal.  I was in a rap contest and he was
|one of the judges.  I was by far the croud's favorite to win and I came
|in second to a 10 year old kid who looked like Vanilla Ice and sounded
|like Bart Simpson.

You probably would have won had you been break-dancing and rhyming like
``Dip dip dive, so-socialize...''

Tx. [not that I'm saying Fab 5 Freddy is over the hill or anything]
-- 
Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
From: juonsteve@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: crossover part 2
Date: 7 Sep 92 05:51:33 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Forget the black crowd, you're wack now
And a zoot suit, frontin black lookin mad foul
I speak for the hardcore
(Ruff, rugged an raw)
I'm audi y'all catch me chillin on my next tour
From the U.S. to the white cliffs of Dover
Strictly underground funk keep the crossover

(So what 'cha sayin)
Ya wanna go pop goes the weasel
When you know you should be rockin the fans with some diezel
But you insist to piss me off black
So I flex the biceps, so I can push him back
So real hardcore hip-hop continues wreckin
An all sucker mc's step down and get the message
So play the crossover yo who's with me
(Hit Squad, aaaaah) P hit me
Another megablast funky dope style from crossjaunda
So help me ronda, help help me ronda
(From what?)  The crossover, yeah crossinyou over
Outta hear, go on, peace, nice to know ya
What a way to go out
No fans to yell or shout
Cause ya got gassed and took the wrong route
Came on the scene, chillin
Freakin a dope bassline
But when they finished with you (BEEEEEEP) flatline
Some say there's no Business like show Business
Well if that's the truth please explain why is this
Rappers been around long
Makin mad noise G
Still I haven't seen one rapper livin comfortably
{something?} four leaf clover
Stick to underground funk keep the crossover

Okay, why I did this.  I started at midnight tonight because some redhaired
bitch on Jerry Lewis telethon was driving me crazy.  And since nobody around
here would listen to my rap I had to get it out somehow.  So I figured-Why not
try to do the lyrics to Crossover from memory?  Well here it is errors and all. 
I doubt I've even spelled half of this right, since I'm goin on 24 straight. 
But feel free to make corrections, and I'll put together a nice version from
the corrections for HardC.O.R.E. vol 1.  Audi 5 to my doghouse

No sig available now, under construction
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: O.P.P.
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:21:07 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <11SEP92.17523492@vax.clarku.edu> lkurtz@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>Any SBMen out there interested in a SWF to listen to rap with while doing
>other things...?

Yo, alt.rap is not a dating or escort service.  Try alt.desperate.and.dateless.


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Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Lyrics:  They Want EFX
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:33:50 GMT

"Oh ???? baby come to Papa Duke
A babaloo, ooh, a babaloo boodedy doo"

I think it's "Phinster".  
I don't know the real reference but I know 
"Baby-Face Phinster" was a criminal on Bugs Bunny.

                                              ->Spice
From: juonsteve@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: HardC.O.R.E. vol 01
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:55:48 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Well, I haven't got enough stuff to fill HardC.O.R.E. vol 01, unless I write
the whole thing myself.  So I'll put what I have on hold, pending the arrival
of some dope articles from C.O.R.E. members.  I'll be gone again, and I'm
hoping that I'll be back next Fri, but like always, I have no idea when.  In
the meantime, I'm scoping for the new P.E. tape.  Thankx 2 everyone who had the
info on this :-)  Has anybody ever seen a complete list of P.E. releases?  I
mean, including 12" and cassingles along with the regular shit?  I've never
seen any 12" that predates "Fear of a Black Planet", so I don't know if there
are any or not.  I gotta go, catch y'all later!
From: juonsteve@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: IGNORE 4265,266is my last post 2day
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:54:27 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

X here, do me a favor and ignore 4265.  I mean hey, if you want to do 
somethin with it , go ahead.  But i was just depressed for the moment.  But 
when I saw the amount of new names to add to my list (I won't  say how many 
so my critic will complain) my spirits came back up.  I still believe this 
could be dope.  So I'll just keep on pluggin' away, no matter what the fuck 
my critics say.

"Hardcore will never die"  Public Enemy - Lost at Birth
"I'm harder than a hardon..."  Das Efx  - East Coast
**"Cursin' wasn't nuthin' 'till a black man rapped"  NBN - Uptown Anthem

Peace from the X-man.

Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm.facts
From: news@news.unomaha.edu (UNO Network News Server)
Subject: test
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:39:18 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm.facts
From: news@news.unomaha.edu (UNO Network News Server)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
 I posted the test article, but it didn't post - so it told me.  WHat
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:44:56 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: jwagner@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Judith O Wagner)
Subject: Re: Lake Huron
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:42:22 GMT

In article <chiquita.716511681@camelot> chiquita@camelot.bradley.edu (Stephanie Buffman) writes:
>
>Does anyone know anymore about the black organic substance that washed
>up on the shore of Lake Huron in the Saginaw Bay?  Did they ever discern
>what it was?
>
If it's the same stuff that washes up on Lake Erie--and it sounds like it
is--it's dead algae.  We go to Port Clinton near the Bass Islands and 
sometimes there's a lot--other times, none.  Very strange.  Don't put
it on your flowers and plants thinking it is a mahvelous fertilizer.
It will kill them!
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 13 Sep 1992 20:13:26 MST
From: <ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject:    RE: Wisconsin

Oh no someone who remembers sheepshead!  Nobody out here has a clue
what I'm talking about!

Re: Johnsonville brats being for the yuppie crowd......hey if they're
all you can get your hands on, they sure beat nothing at all!

Go Badgers!
From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: Re: WISCONSIN!!!
Date: 15 Sep 1992 14:11:35 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <BuL4Ir.2G2@ais.org> dlc@ais.org (David Claytor) writes:
>I dunno, I dunno -- they have some terrific beers in Wisconsin.  Andeker on
>tap is, well, an aphrodisiac and Point Special is a close second (IMHO!).

   Forget the Leinies, Point, etc.  Try a Garten Brau (any variety), 
or find a brewpub (in Kenosha, Appleton, Sturgeon Bay...).
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin
Summary: Sheepshead
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:40:35 CDT

In article <92257.201326ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET>, <ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
> Oh no someone who remembers sheepshead!  Nobody out here has a clue
> what I'm talking about!
> 

   What d ya mean, sheepshead is played around the world.  I taught some guys
in Guam about ten years ago...



Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: tgl@ssd.kodak.com (Tom Lathrop)
Subject: Great Lakes shoreline
Originator: tgl@jupiter
Keywords: shoreline
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 16:40:50 GMT

Dennis Parker (dcp@teak05.cray.com) said:

>As long as we're stimulating the newsgroup, here's a quiz.  Lists the states in
>order of most Great Lakes shore line.  Here's my guesses:
>
>1. Michigan
>2. Wisconsin
>3. Minnesota
>4. Ohio
>5. New York
>6. Illinois
>7. Pennsylvania
>8. Indiana

Take a look at a map. Looks to me like New York beats out both Minnesota
and Ohio. Don't forget that New York has quite a bit of Lake Erie
shoreline as well as most of the southern and eastern shores of Lake
Ontario. Ohio may beat Minnesota, although it's close. (The almanac
I have access to only gives shoreline for oceans and the Gulf of Mexico, not
the Great Lakes.)

But the Province of Ontario may have them all beat. Like Michigan, it borders
on 4 of the 5 Great Lakes.

Tom Lathrop
Rochester, New York
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes