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From: 9126287n@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: DOWN 18
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:50:55 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia




Any surfers out there (anywhere) who have eyesight trouble?
Eg. short-sighted, etc?

I do, and a professional eye specialist recommended contact lenses.
I like to hear from anybody who uses contacts in the water. 
How do they go? Any problems???

Kevyn Lee
Uni of S.Oz.
Aust.
From: horeff@cirrus.com (Steve Horeff)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: El Nino revisited
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:56:56 GMT
Organization: Cirrus Logic

hey crew,

while scouring the local stores for the New Yorker mag that has the OB surf 
article (which I never found by the way, must be an east coast thing), I ran 
across a mag called EARTH.  It's a mag with stories about, you guessed it, 
the planet we call home.  the Sept. issue has a decent article on El Nino, 
what causes it (or what they think anyway), what are the effects of El Nino, 
etc.  Check it out if you're interested.  I won't bore you guys/girls with the 
gory details one main point is that is causes much more damage than good 
(even though we *did* have a killer winter last year in cali).  It also said 
that hurricanes in the altantic are less frequent.  That Andrew was a major 
destructive force just goes to show how much we don't know about all this 
stuff.  But in general I don't think there were many hurricanes this year, 
but I haven't been tracking em.

 

surf report:  southwest swell was rumoured to hit today.  I checked it out 
this morning to no avail (1-2 foot) oh well.  btw, I was looking for surf 
north of santa cruz.

later,
H
last year the first big north swell hit on sept 13 (I was camping in big sur 
that weekend and it was huge).  it's only a matter of time....
From: bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: East Coast report - OC, MD
Date: 3 Sep 1992 14:44:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson) says:

>bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech) writes:
>
>>You can surf all day over there, about 20 min from OC.  Only breaks during
>>low tide. 
>
>Not that I mean to be picky but how can you surf all day when it
>
>" Only breaks during low tide. " ?
>
>Radically Wired from the cosmically inspired...
>
>Nigel.
>

Let me clarify my statement.  Since Ocean City is a huge resort town, with
condos and hotels lining the beach up and down, surfers aren't tolerated during
specific times and at specific places.  You are allowed to surf anywhere along
the beaches during non-lifeguard hours; before 10am and after 5:30pm.  However
each day there are two rotating surfing beaches, one at the north end of the
city and one at the south.  This beach is a sectioned off area usually about
100 yards in width.  On a good surf day, you may have 50 guys in this small
section of beach fighting for waves.  Many times the guys are the hot locals.
Often the surfing beach is rotated to a place where the waves don't break
well at all.  So many surfers take the short trip to Assateague island state
seashore park.  At the park there are no lifeguards, and hence you can do
any type of water activity (surfing, jetskiing, windsurfing) you wish to.
You can 'surf all day' without being bothered by officials.  But the seashore
park itself is a long island with a fairly steep beach incline near shore.
The waves don't usually break (only on big days - head high) well at all during
high tide.  This seems to be due to the greater depth closer to shore.  At
low tide the ocean bottom floor near to the break zone is more level and 
shallower.  Hence waves waist high and up will break.
 
			Check ya L8tr,
					Derek
From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report, San Deigo North County
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:58:56 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

Thar's waves again. 3-4ft west windswell. I surfed this morning and had
a classic surf. Head high lefts and rights peeling around. Greate fun.
When I got in (about 7.15) there were only 4 people within eyesight and
none of them on my peak (Bamboos) 

(everyone still figured it was flat ....)

One good wave, just to give an idea ...
Take off, bottom turn past a big dumpy section .. off the top, down,
pull in .. half a foamy barrel, come out and race it down the line
to a big dump reo. Real fun.

I could hear it from the road in front of my house (I live just across
the street from the beach) when I picked up the morning paper ...

Also surfed the last three night, 1-2ft dribbly crud, though last night
had a few bigger sets, which I figured was a sight of waves to come.

It was dropping by the time I got out, so if you are in south Ca and
wan't to surf get on it right away, don't reckon it will last long.

Also, there were bulk dolphins around, the sun was out, and a lot
of wading birds were breakfasting on the beach. Also, a large corvina
jumped out of the water near my peak.

"Get on it this morning Tod"

Mike
"A brit in yank land"
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: re
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:02:46 GMT

u2119390@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

> Yo Danny, I agree with ya man, last years Pipe Masters was all time!!
>         That 10 of T.C was a ten on the hellman scale, like Derek Ho 
>         pulled back 'cause it was too heavy for him and Tommy just went 

I have a sequence spread of this from Tracks.
The exact wave ....I think it was a four man heat.
I have a Tom Carrol wall of posters developing at home.
The gut is a wizard... ::::-----)))))

>         it blind!! The video Mondo X-trene X-periment by Quiksilver
>         has got good footage of that, plus good freesurfing on the 
>         North Shore from last winter.

>         Later all.........Jay.
N.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: creutz@cco.caltech.edu (Michael John Creutz)
Subject: Re: Contact lenses in the surf?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:33:02 GMT

I wear my Boston lenses swimming all the time.  Two years ago
I lost one on a screaming right while bodysurfing at Seaside
(north San Diego County).  I regard that a small price to
pay for being able to see.
Mike
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: A letter(s) to Tracks.
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:55:07 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

G'day,
	I was thinking of writing a letter to tracks about alt.surfing.
I talked about this a while(?) ago and never got round to it.

So if any of you readers or posters want to write letters about
alt.surfing and what you think/value in it/like/hate/whatever about it:
I'll bundle them all together (edit) and send them of to Tracks.

For those of you who hate Tracks don't bother...it's a
bible for some and will never die (hopefully).

Although I think Wet-Side  is getting better to the stage where
it almost compete's rather well with Tracks.

Here's a short letter...I'll add to it later.

Dear Ed,
	For about 3 years now there has been an international
link between a few lucky surfer's that are 
located all over the globe...
talk about all sorts of thing that reveolve around surfing...
and he scored the best barrels ever...
found a break in the middle of Germany...
Sex,parties,drugs,surf,and the odd lecture... what a life...
Friends you have never met before,in place you've never been to...
Too many flat spells result's in bad poetry...

Get the Idea,
Nigel.
PS This may increase the no. of poster's.
PPS A post about this from readers only of alt.surfing
would be good.(that extra perspective would be good).
PPPS Are there many non-posters who read alt.surfing
if so drop your name in I'm curious...
-- 
Women need to find the right partner to have sex (and sometimes the right
excuse),Men just need to find the right place.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: huntington@umbc1.umbc.edu
Subject: Surfers' Image
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:34:31 GMT

I'm curious about what the reactions of other folks were to a
familar scene I saw on CNN the other night:  

As usual during pre-hurricane TV news coverage, we scan the 
shots of waves to see how they're breaking and whether they're 
being ridden.  Before Andrew hit Florida, CNN showed a surfer
somewhere (sorry, didn't catch exactly where) along the coast
who had refused to obey the Beach Patrol's order to get out of 
the water.  The BP actually went into the water and physically
took the guy's board from him.  CNN ended the piece with a
quote from the surfer saying something like, "As soon as he's
gone, I'll be back in the water."

Is the surfer a jerk who hurts the image of surfing?  Are the Beach
Patrols the jerks, and the surfer should be applauded for rejecting
authority and exercising individual judgement?  Does it matter?

Just wondering,
  Robin
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Alt.surfvey #1
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:21:42 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

The three BEST surf movies ever made are:

1. Endless Summer (The Yard Stick for all other surf movies...)
2. Big Wednesday (Great surf with some hell characters and wild
parties... :-) )
3. Bunyip Dreaming (Munga Barry and Luke Egan on a Soul trip
to desolate parts of WA Australian coastline ).
I also won it in a competition,as I like to say 
"it always taste's better when it's free."
 
Honorable mention (for those movies you just HAVE TO include):
Mad Wax: This movie is pretty narrow as far as plot,dialogue...
go but who cares... you don't watch it for quality dialogue.
It's basically about a guy who's a good surfer but just a lowly
window cleaner and wants to travel oversea's.
He makes some magic wax that instantlt provides footage
of surfing for the movie and the whole plot...
Every surfer's fantasy should be to be able to go instantly to
where the best waves are located... :-)

Surf Nazi's Must Die: Have'nt seen it but heard it's sick so I 
thought I'd include it.

Rolling Thunder : Star's Rob Page (The guy I taught a few 
chord's on the guitar).Set in Australia's future...forgot the
rest along with the ale I drank that night. (Torquay Pub,Oz)


Comments: I don't have a TV or a Video Recorder... :-)
and I don't regret it one Iota.

Bye,
Nigel.
PS Music has far more value than an idiot box does.
-- 
Women need to find the right partner to have sex (and sometimes the right
excuse),Men just need to find the right place.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920)
Subject: Re: Im in deep !@#&*%
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 12:13:30 GMT

In article <23099@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, mheron@samson.hac.com (Mark Heron) writes:
|> OK surfers, I have a problem and I need some feedback!!
|> 
|> Mark (I don't want leave So Cal) Heron        >;')

MARK!  Don't do it man!  I spent the first half of my life on the Gulf Coast
(Ft. Walton Beach / Destin / Pensacola) and the second half in NC.  I've only
seen a handfull of surfers on either coast in all of my 29 years!  If there
were waves to surf on believe me I would have learned to surf!  Man I'm lookin'
desperately for a way to move out to So Cal and leave this sappy place behind!
I've been to Texas.  Nice place to visit but you don't wanna live there.
Take my advice: Stay West young man!
 
KimmyD
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: alt.waves
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:59:14 GMT

timb@runx.oz.au (Tim Burgess) writes:


>"Bagus" pronounced bah-guus, is 'good'. So Bali bagus means `Bali
>is good' as there is no `is' in Indonesian and adjectives follow
>nouns (unlike English where adjectives are used before nouns).

>I'd recommend  you buy a guidebook (eg. Lonely Planet) and learn a 
>few words as Indonesian (Bahasa Indonesia) is one of the simplest
>languages in the world. I spent 4 months surfing about Indo last
>year and with a little bit of effort, could communicate almost any
>thing in Indonesian towards the end.

Give us an article About your trip Tim.
I'd love to hear about your escapades and adventures through Indo.
Make it detailed and as long as you want.If anyone don't want to read
it they don't have to... cut loose on that terminal man... :-)
Not so much the locations (although that would be good) but the
sort of attitude you were travelling with (ie fear,realaxed,like a 
pioneer,blissful... ???)

>If you go to the remote spots for uncrowded surf, you learn *real*
>quick too.....
>Best expression is "Saya pergi untuk ombak besar" means
> "I'm looking for big waves"........
>Tim Burgess

Bye,
Nigel.
-- 
Women need to find the right partner to have sex (and sometimes the right
excuse),Men just need to find the right place.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: 9126287n@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Help... Twinzers
Date: 1 Sep 92 07:41:51 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

If there are any surfers who ride twinzers or know of anybody who does,
could you post/send reviews, advice, etc.?

I'm riding a T & C thruster at the moment, but I'd like to hear from
or about twin fin boards.


Kevyn Lee
Uni of South Oz

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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: jenkin@deepquest.oe.fau.edu (Michael_Jenkins)
Subject: Andrew in SF report
Organization: Advanced Marine Systems Group
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:14:25 GMT

    Sorry to disappoint everybody, but down here in south Florida,
  all Andrew brought was really huge mushy slop.  Besides that, before
the storm the beaches were evacuated and they weren't letting anybody on
the barrier islands.  Which really isn't such a bad thing considering
what the storm did.  Here in Boca Raton we lost about 50 ft. of beach 
and a bunch of trees.  Down in Miami the destruction is beyond belief

     It might have been better upcoast ( Cocoa Beach or northward )


     Mike -

............still riding a '72 Gypsy rider.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: g9024557@cc.uow.edu.au (James Phillip ANDREW)
Subject: Early birds
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 06:14:53 GMT

BANG BANG BANG...

BANG BANG BANG...

"ITS FOUR FEET AND PUMPING" ...

I didn't know what was happening other than something destroyed my 
nice dream. It was Nigel at 6:20 am outside my bedroom window. I
grogily grogged to the frount door to let the cone man (cm) in. He made
me woof down breakie and get my gear. I was amping: I knew there was
a nice offshore and that nobody would be out at that hour of the
morning (in Wollongong) especially since the swell had "picked" up
over night. I say "picked" because when I got outside to the 
Combie I could see that the surf was as flat as the day before !
cm (Nigel) says "Just paying you back for that fake shark sighting 
at Virgins that scared the shit of me".

Well we were up anyway (cm having not been to bed that night) 
so we went off to Sandon and Sharkies in search of waves. NOT a lot 
happening - maybe a foot. We ventured at Sharkies for a bit of
rock hopping, but I must admit it was a beautiful morning
and good for the soul as cm said. I must get up early more often !

cm decided that he'd like a Billy on the way home and so I (attempted)
to drive the combie. Sounds easy : Yeah, the gear stick is like, looose 
and the accelerator is a button on the floor (the peddle being broken)
You have to twist your foot around like a gorilla (like the way Nig surfs)
to be able to press the accelerator button in. I got the hang of it
and was happily enjoying the morning and the four season when we came
across a hill start. I go to pull the hand brake on and cm says casually
"Oh yeah it dosen't work that well". WHAT: man an accelerator I can't
find and no handbrake with a hillstart is worse than Virgins. I couldn't
get it into first gear to complicate matters and nor could cm either - "Oh 
man it would have to happen while I'm coned". We missed one set of lights
on the hill and while waiting for the next set some guy came up behind me. 
I made desparate hand signals to which he just creased his brow. Anyway he 
got the message as the lights went green. Rolling back just a might of a mite 
until I found that button changed his face pretty rapidly. We missed him and
were away (thank Huey). 

Not a bad morning after all, thanks Nig, (wait till the surf is up
next time but)

Jim
From: petermac@sunol.EBay.Sun.COM (Peter McCormick)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Joining the Crew (finally)
Date: 26 Aug 1992 19:50:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: petermac@sunol.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunol.ebay.sun.com

99,

Don't get me wrong, there are SURFERS, and then there
are those other people that play in the surf.  To those 
other blokes there are two well known words, "COMIN' DOWN".

		Stay Cool

I have heard from reliable sources Temple is one gnarly dude.

pjs
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report-SIO
Keywords: Small, but there
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:46:54 GMT

I didn't ride the bus today, so I am only reporting
for SIO(san diego)

Still, small, but there are a few ridable waves.  
Mostly its small, mushy local wind waves I think.
I can see some longboarders getting some rides
and a shortboarder or two hopping.

Oh well.  Winter will soon be here.

tod
Water temp 19 degrees C
(high sixties)

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
Tod Critchlow(tcritchl@ucsd.edu)      |  What the Hell is a
Univ of Calif, San Diego              |  Signature anyways??
Scripps Institution of Oceanography   | 
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hl390we@unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Wegner)
Subject: A book for surf-teachers???
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:18:42 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni-Duisburg

I've been boogie-boarding now for three years and I really enjoyed it.
But now as I face my four week honeymoon on Hawaii in july '93 and
two weeks at the atlantic coast of France in april I would like 
to learn how to stand on a real board. I visited a german guy in France 
this year, who does courses on surfing there. He had a book from which 
he took material from for his theoretical lessons but i forgot to
write down the name and signatur of it. Later I asked in a bookshop
but it seems that there is no book on surfing known in Germany (neither
german nor english). Maybe one of you guys can help me and mail or post
me the names and signaturs of such books.

Thanks a lot, may the swell be with you!
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Cornwall Surfari
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:53:00 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

Yeah! WAVES! AOOOUUUUUII!!!

I headed down to Cornwall for a couple of days with my girlfriend for
a little end of summer surfout.  I wasn't disappointed.

We went to Newquay and partied it up.  Newquay, may not be
the worlds best surf, but as far a partying surf towns go, I don't
know of any better.  Lots of pubs show surf movie videos, and
it seems like a huge percent of the population there surfs and partys
heavily.  It's not like some places where surfing is just sort of tolerated, in
Newquay, it seems to be the town's main reason for existence.

Oh yeah the surf.  Fistral was well overhead, but there was a southwest
wind blowing, so it was real junky.  Nonetheless, the beaches around the
bend (or Quay) had offshore wind.  I surf Tolerane (sp?) beach and
there was a nice sort of wedge-style peak getting created at high tide
from side waves bouncing off the cliffs.  It was head high to barely
overhead, but pretty juicy for England.  

It was just a bunch of spongers and me (on my 6'5" Vector Vehicle Thruster).
The spongers thought they owned the place and were giving me a few wierd 
looks (like what are you doing here?).  It was a real scene with
photographers on the beach and everything (almost as bad as surfing
Rocky Point in Hawaii).  I had some fun waves and nearly ran over some
spongers many times,  I wasn't worried though, because I knew that
if I ran over them it wouldn't ding my board, so I'd drop in on
them all the time.  I didn't get any hassle from them.  They just
looked at me as if I was crazy.  

A few guys tried to paddle out on boards, but couldn't get through
the shorebreak so they bailed (Newquay is loaded with kooks)!

After awhile it started to close out as the tide dropped, so I took
a final wave in which turned out to be my best wave of the session.  It
was a right (suprisingly) that was slightly overhead and peeled
for quite a ways towards the cliffs.  It was one of those waves that
you know you won't get another of in the same session, so I didn't
mind getting out.

Later that day, we headed up the coast to a remote spot where
the southwest wind blows offshore as well. It started out at only
shoulder high waves, but as the tide pushed in, it got to head
high with occaisonal overhead sets.  Real fun stuff, with none of
the Newquay mob scene to boot.

We then headed north and stayed in Devon for the night, but this
morining the wind was from the northwest which is onshore in all of north
Devon, so we bailed and headed home.  

I had two fun surfs in Cornwall though.

Chris

A Socal surfpunk in the land of Babbage, Turing, and Hoare.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: andy@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Andy Michael USGS Guest)
Subject: The New Yorker Rules Surf Mags
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:17:19 GMT

"The New Yorker" magazine has a major article on surfing
starting in the August 24, 1992 issue.  Part one (of two) is
called "Playing Doc's Games" and focusses on Doc Mark Renneker
and surfing along Ocean Beach in San Francisco, but in the true
New Yorker form the 20 or so pages ramble over much of surfing
and just keep returning to the main topic.  Who knows where the
second installment will go?

For those of you foreigners "The New Yorker" is the best written
magazine in America.  It also has great cartoons.  If you have been
looking for an intelligiently written (its by William Finnegan) surfing
article this will be it.  In an almost shocking move the article does
include a photo of Renneker on a wave (about 3x overhead).  I believe
that this is a first for The New Yorker where they generally rely on
the words to create the pictures.  But for a surf mag one photo and
20 pages of complete sentences is probably a first too. :-)

Anyway check it out?  I got to go to work.  My thanks to the man who
taught me about waves for telling me to look for it, that's right: Dad.

Andy
(who has looked at the waves along Ocean Beach, but that's all.)
From: jnicholson@bowker.com (Jim Nicholson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: DOWN 18
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:28:26 GMT
Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ

9126287n@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:

> Any surfers out there (anywhere) who have eyesight trouble?
> Eg. short-sighted, etc?
>
> I do, and a professional eye specialist recommended contact lenses.
> I like to hear from anybody who uses contacts in the water.
> How do they go? Any problems???
>

I did, for a while - "daily wear" soft lenses.  They really improved my
vision; unfortunately, I don't blink fast enough; I was loosing 1 a week (at
about $30 US for replacements).  Also (this might be subjective), it seems
that my lenses dried up faster.

My brother wears his "extended wear" lenses while bodyboarding, and has had no
trouble.

- Jim