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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: Pistons: Cast Vs. Forged
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 23:08:35 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.
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> >    What is the list.wisdom on cast vs. forged pistons? 

> 	I can't say I'm sure that it applies to your engine, but the word I
> hear about forged pistons is that they are great once the engine is warm,
> but before that there are oil control problems, piston slap problems, etc.
> The problem is that forged pistons expand more than cast, so they have to be
> loose when they are cold.  If you don't warm up the engine before you drive
> it you can end up with some broken pistons.  This would only be a problem if
> its in a daily driver/grocery getter car, but then again, only you know what
> you are willing to put up with in exchange for horsepower.

The expansion is slightly higher on cast verses the run o'the mill forged,
but some forged have even greater expansion coef's.  More noticably, the
high silicon content race pistons sold by such companies as Venolia, Ross,
Cosworth, etc..  And even greater are Arias.  These puppies grow like mad!
Blue-smoke city until they get a few Kelvins in'em.

The forged pistons in my 911 aren't that bad, but them again, I take it
easy until it's up to temp (not that the rings might break, but the rockers
don't get their splash until warm. And as an aside, if you haven't seen
the inards of a 911 engine, you'll have to treat yourself at least once :-)

The most "high-performance" forged pistons like the ones sold by TRW, et al
are of this type of alloy. It is especially true of pistons for larger engines
since they have larger pistons that'll grow even more givin the same temp.
Needless to say, with pistons of only 80mm in diam., the Porsche isn't as
susceptible to this prob. (Damn that's small :-)

DAVE (johnson@wrs.com) Internet Z-Club member #51

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Posted by: emory!wrs.com!johnson (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.hotrod,wiz.hotrod
From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Aftermarket fuel injection
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 04:09:56 GMT
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In article <19=qcvn@dixie.com> hotrod@dixie.com writes:
>A friend of mine bought a 73 Cougar for the engine that it held.  The man said
>it was a 351 Cleveland, but it looks just like a 351 Windsor.  The saler said
>he had to put 351C parts in it (bearings, and oil pump).  The heads are small,
>the water path seams to be Windsor, but the valve cover says: "351W (C)".  
>The local ford dealer says its a Cleveland (just by description, he did not 
>actually see the engine).  So guys, what is it?  Thanks.
>Tom McClendon
>gt7038d@prism.gatech.edu
>

There are a number of things that you can quickly check:

The valve cover on a Windsor head has straight surfaces while the Cleveland
covers will have a big bump where the oil filler/breather cap goes in.

The Windsor engine has its water return hose attached to an openning
on the intake manifold pointing forward, where the Cleveland's water
outlet is on its front cover, pointing up.  Watch for right-angle
adapters on Windsor engines that point the outlet up.

All the Cleveland engines I've seen used really small spark plugs with
14 mm diameter threads while the early Windsors used the larger plugs
with 18 mm diameter threads.

good luck,

eyc
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Posted by: emory!hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov!chu (Eugene Chu)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Pistons: Cast Vs. Forged
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 05:07:45 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.
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   What is the list.wisdom on cast vs. forged pistons?  I've
run into a deal where I can get the forged ones for only like
$30 more than cast.  
   They will be going into a Olds 350, 9.5:1 comprssion, mild
cam. No N20.  It will (hopefully) put out around 275 horsepower.  
   I know that forged are stronger, but I've heard that they have 
oil-control problems, and that cast are inherently weak, and
work like standard OEM.   Overall, I think I'll go with forged,
if not just because they're stronger, but I'd like some opinions
first....

    Thanks,

 --> Bob "Can't wait for my copy of PE" Valentine
  -> ravalent@mailbox.syr.edu
 

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Posted by: "Bob Valentine" <emory!mailbox.syr.edu!ravalent>
Newsgroups: alt.hotrod,wiz.hotrod
From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: 351C - $100.00
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 01:33:59 GMT
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-> Usually any engine in a LTD II isn't worth the effort of pulling it
-> out. Bsides that it is a low compression 351C, it'll cost more to fix
-> up than it is worth and you'll just wind up with an engine that has
-> very little low-end torque

 Not so!  The 2V Cleveland can be made to run just fiiiiine.  You'd bump
the CR on rebuild anyway.  A nice four barrel intake, a mild cam, and
you'd be astonished what you can get.  Typically, the 2V is much
superior to the 4V for street and some competition use - that's why I
passed up a set of primo 4V heads for dirt cheap and scrounged for a
month to find a set of rusty old 2V castings.
                                                             

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Posted by: emory!chaos.lrk.ar.us!dave.williams (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.hotrod,wiz.hotrod
From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: 351C - $100.00
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 07:45:22 GMT
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Usually any engine in a LTD II isn't worth the effort of pulling it out.
Bsides that it is a low compression 351C, it'll cost more to fix up than it is
worth and you'll just wind up with an engine that has very little low-end torque
Keep your eyes open for something better, like a 429 LTD II.

Millam E. Tackitt

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Posted by: emory!naucse.cse.nau.edu!met (Millam Tackitt)
Newsgroups: alt.hotrod,wiz.hotrod
From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: 351W Power
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 08:41:58 GMT
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-> which seems to be coming from the transmission area.  New u-joints,
-> plus had drive shaft balanced, even replaced the bushing inside the
-> transmission tailshaft with no luck.  The driveshaft yoke spec'd out

 Have you *carefully* inspected the transmission mount?  Sometimes the
rubber shears up inside the bracket, or just turns gummy.
                                                                                                  

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Posted by: emory!chaos.lrk.ar.us!dave.williams (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.hotrod,wiz.hotrod
From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Mags away!
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 20:21:22 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.
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I just got my initiation to bulk mailing.  The sample editions of PE
Magazine went to that great folder, spindler, and mutillator called the
USPS yesterday (Saturday).  You know, it hurts almost as bad to write 
a check to the Post Office as it does to the IRS.  Grrrr.... 

Anyway, enjoy.  let me know when you get 'em.  Interested to see just
how bad 3rd class is.

John
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Posted by: jgd (John De Armond)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: dual point distributor
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 18:38:06 GMT
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does anybody know how to set the points on a dual point distributor for
a 327 sbc?  when converting to a dual point should the balast resistor
be changed?
thanks,
dxs

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Posted by: emory!evolving.com!dxs
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject:  Lost mail
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 05:50:18 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.
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I think we must have suffered a momentary bit deficit here at Dixie
tonite.  Weird things happened on the system including my queue
processing program reporting it could not create /dev/null. To make
a long story short, some mail got lost and other mail got clobbered.
A posting went out with a title about EFI but with the body of another,
old message.  IF you sent an piece of mail to the list today
and have not seen it, please resend.

Thanks,
John

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Posted by: hotrod@dixie.com
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: 351W Power
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 02:47:36 GMT
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-> Traded the remnants of my '65 Mustang for a lincoln 9" rear with the
-> discs and a Detroit Locker with 3.25's, and a few other goodies for
-> my baby! SCCA and Vintage are my goal, if they will allow my car with
-> all of her mods.

 The SCCA is full of technophobes with a collective hard-on against
hotrods.  Do much more than fancy wheels or a chrome air cleaner and
they'll bump you clear up to Modified, where you run against guys with
special-built open wheel cars and stuff.

 They want a nice, clean yuppie sport, and greasy-knuckle types are
seriously discouraged.  Sounds like you're developing a bitchen street
ride, though.
                                                                

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Posted by: emory!chaos.lrk.ar.us!dave.williams (Dave Williams)
From: janet@ntmtv.UUCP (Janet Jakstys)
Subject: Re: Angry Parents
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:28:05 GMT

In article <Bx3Fov.Ezn@tct.com>, lenore@tct.com (Lenore Cook) writes:
|> 
|> I have never shared our problems with my parents.  I
|> share the positive stuff, but chose to keep the
|> negative stuff to myself.  This is a new pattern for
|> me.  I used to tell them everything and it seems
|> that they would eventually use it against me.  
|> Anyway, I did finally call them and tell them we
|> were separating.  That was last weekend.  This weekend
|> I had a conversation with my mother and she is 
|> VERY angry with me - for just dumping this on her
|> and not ever letting her know there was a problem.
|> 
|> I have a hard time making decisions and sticking by
|> them, because I have always let other people influence
|> me...how will they feel, how will they react etc...
|> I felt good about my decision to keep my problems 
|> to myself, but now I don't feel so good. I feel like
|> a little kid again who can't ever do the right 
|> thing.  I'd like some feedback from you out there
|> Do we ever grow up?  (I'm 32 by the way, so it's
|> not like I'm a child).  
|> 

I just recently separated from my husband.  After 10 years
of marriage I want out for a multitude of reasons which I won't
elaborate on now.  I've wanted out for about the last 4 years but
told no one about this.  Finally, about 4 months ago, I came to a 
breaking point and I left shocking a lot of friends and relatives.  
All this time I was able to put up a front.  All this time I was 
pretending that our relationship was ok.  My folks were shocked...
they never expected this from their, up until now relatively successful daughter.  They were shocked, but not angry.  In fact they have been very
supportive.  I think your mom will get over her anger and will
support you too because she cares and she loves you.  She just
wants you to be happy.

I also tend to keep the bad stuff away from my folks mainly because
they're compulsive worriers.  But, this whole experience has opened 
up the communication between me and my folks, that's one blessing.  In fact...they just recently said that I'm more like I was before I got married...more open.  (I also tend to be easily influenced by others.  My husband's overbearing personality suffocated my own personality.  
Now that he's not around, I'm more like "my old self" again.)

Talk to your mom.  I hope this helps.
Good luck!
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.support
From: cjh@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Carol J. Hughes)
Subject: Re: Angry Parents
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:39:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.210829.8429@iscsvax.uni.edu> mccall3080@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>In article <Bx3Fov.Ezn@tct.com>, lenore@tct.com (Lenore Cook) writes:
>> I have posted here a few times and have received lots
>> of help, so here goes again.
>> 
>> As I have said before, my husband and I are facing
>> divorce.  Because of the current situation, we have
>> decided it is time for a separation.  I will be 
>> moving out this month.  Now the problem....
>> 
>> I have never shared our problems with my parents.  I
>> share the positive stuff, but chose to keep the
>> negative stuff to myself.  This is a new pattern for
>> me.  I used to tell them everything and it seems
>> that they would eventually use it against me.  
>> Anyway, I did finally call them and tell them we
>> were separating.  That was last weekend.  This weekend
>> I had a conversation with my mother and she is 
>> VERY angry with me - for just dumping this on her
>> and not ever letting her know there was a problem.
>> 
>> I have a hard time making decisions and sticking by
>> them, because I have always let other people influence
>> me...how will they feel, how will they react etc...
>> I felt good about my decision to keep my problems 
>> to myself, but now I don't feel so good. I feel like
>> a little kid again who can't ever do the right 
>> thing.  I'd like some feedback from you out there
>> Do we ever grow up?  (I'm 32 by the way, so it's
>> not like I'm a child).  
>> 
>> I anxiously await your replies.
>
>
IMHO, what goes on between a husband and wife is no one else's
business, especially the parents.  I believe your mother is
manipulating you with her anger.  Don't let her change your
feelings about yourself.  What you did was right.  You looked
within for answers, and that is the best thing to do.
If you do feel the need to talk to someone, a therapist or
counselor would help you look at things objectively, but
in the long run, the decision is yours and yours alone.

Joan



Newsgroups: alt.support
From: P2364
Subject: Feelings of Rejection - Help
Organization: At Home
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:59:49 GMT

Could anyone on the net explain to me why I feel really *high* when I go out
with friends and feel really *rejected* if those same friends do something
together and don't include me.  

Another situation where I'm talking to a lot people and having a good time
(work or at a party) I feel accepted by people.  If it is a quiet day and no
one even says hi to me, I feel rejection.

How can I control my moods?  I know it is all in my head and I don't know how
to cope with this.

Also, I'm afraid to make the first move and ask girlfriends out to do something
because I think they will say no.

Please help.

Crystal
Newsgroups: alt.support
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: thoughts on holidays
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:00:16 GMT

rpowers@panix.com (Richard Powers) writes:

{story deleted...I sympathize with you - my dad was not 
sudden or unexpected, but still, I can understand}

] 	But back to holidays.  I don't know what, if anything, I'll be
] doing for Thanksgiving, my family will probably do something for
] Christmas, but I don't think I really want to participate.  I don't know
] which would be worse, being miserable alone, or being miserable with
] people around.

(I am hesitant to make suggestions, because unlike
many people who post here, I seem to have had very
happy memories of holidays, and ENJOY them.  But
I did want to reply, so Richard would not feel that
he was being ignored.  I did not see any other 
replies to his post - it may be due to our currently
problematic newsfeed - if so, I apologise to anyone
who has replied.)

Richard - if you really don't want to do ANYthing for
the holidays, then I encourage you not to do anything.
Forcing yourself will not make you feel better.  If,
however, you are used to doing things, do them as you
feel like it - if it is nothing more than getting out
a champaign glass and opening a bottle of sparkling
cider or champaign and toasting your mother on the
holidays - or through the holidays.

If, however, you really DO want to do something, but
are not up to being with the rest of your family,
then there are a few other suggestions.  Check with
your local net group(s) that you read/post.  Or even
alt.support - and see if anyone is going to be around
during the days you want to "do something" who will do
it with you.  I know there are several people in the
Bay Area who set up dinners for local "orphans" on the
holidays.  Offer to help.  Consider it a support group
dinner - no other emotional baggage attached - just
a good excuse to get a group of people together.  Or
even just ONE other person and go to a restaurant.

And the other option is to call your local shelter
for homeless people and ask if they are going to be
serving holiday dinners - and volunteer to help.

Diana
From: andrewc@garnet.berkeley.edu (Andrew Chen)
Newsgroups: alt.support
Subject: Held at gunpoint!
Date: 12 Nov 1992 00:45:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Hi,  

At 1:30 AM on November 10, I was cutting across a parking structure to go to
a friend's apartment to study.  About halfway in, I heard quick footsteps 
behind me and as  I turned around, I saw a man pointing a gun directly at me.
He demanded my wallet which I handed over to him, and then he told me to run,
which I did as well.  I'm fine, and physically unhurt.  

I'm not stressed out about the wallet, for that can be replaced.  But what I
have been consumed about is the thought of death.  What if I had been shot?
I'm not sure how to deal with the thought of dying... why am I still here?  
It's been extremely difficult to sleep or study, since flashes of what had 
happened run through my mind and it becomes more and more haunting.  Am
I supposed to take this well and go on with my life as if nothing ever 
happened?  Help...  write me if you feel like... 

Still functional,
Andrew Chen
andrewc@garnet.berkeley.edu


Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell)
Subject: Re: Diet Methods
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:00:53 GMT

In article <96458@netnews.upenn.edu>, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren
L. Crawford) writes:
> It's incredible to be able to eat a few bites of pizza and then quit.  Or
> one cookie.  A few spoonfuls of ice cream.  And not feel compelled to go
> on eating the whole thing just because it's there.  This is _very_ new
> behavior for me.  

It's still kinda new to me, too, but I'm enjoying it.  And I've found a
whole new reason to appreciate buffet/smorgasbord-style restaurants:  I
can pig out on the "healthy" stuff (salads with low-fat or fat-free
dressings, fruit, pastas, breads, etc.), and get just a FEW bites of
foods that I wouldn't normally order by themselves.  The Shoneys
restaurants in our area, for example, offer a seafood buffet on Friday
and Saturday evenings.  I can fill up on salad, baked fish and low-cal
veggies, and still enjoy a piece or two of the deep-fried shrimp or
catfish.  Even better, I've finally broken myself of the "I'm not
getting my money's worth unless I make at least 3 trips to the buffet"
mentality.  :)
-- 
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Osteopathic College--churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu   | even so, I never
BIX--kchurchwell  AOL--KChurchwel  CIS--72170,1552     | quit hoping.
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert)
Subject: Re: Swimming (was: One whole week)
Summary: Being Nig & Swimming
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:53:07 GMT

In article <WVENABLE.92Nov5130207@algona.stats.adelaide.edu.au> wvenable@algona.stats.adelaide.edu.au (Bill Venables) writes:
>>>>>> "Laura" == Laura Cuzzillo <cuzz@midway.uchicago.edu> writes:
>
>Laura> Try swimming.
>
>Ummm...  Swimming would be fine if I had my own swimming pool with a *very*
>high fence.  Pity, since I can swim quite well and I agree swimming would be
>an excellent all round exercise.
>
>Does anyone else (of the huge variety like me) have this great difficulty with
>the thought of going swimming in public?  Has anyone actually managed to bite
>the bullet and go anyway?
>
>Bill.
>

Bill, I am over 350 lbs myself and I had the same hestitation
about swimming in public. I joined a commeircal health club this year
which has an inside swimming pool (actually a lap pool). I really
didn't know if I wanted to change into my swimming trunks in the men's
locker room. being so big is embarassing in comparison to the more
athelitic men there. But I bite the bullet and started swimming
3/4 times each week. I found that the other men ignored me when I
was changing. I still shower at home before going swimming and at
home after swimming. But I do swim there.

just my experiences.


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