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From: redingtn@athena.mit.edu (Norman H Redington)
Subject: Re: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 22 dec 1992
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:57:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.173918.17671@umr.edu>, msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu) writes:|> 
|> METROPOLIS OF BESSARABIA REACTIVATED. On 19 and 20 December Radio
|> Bucharest reported that the Romanian Orthodox Church has decided
|> to reactivate the Metropolis of Bessarabia, headquartered in
|> Chisinau, which had been abolished by the Soviets after World War
|> II.  The decision was taken at the request of a Moldovan
|> delegation headed by Bishop Petru of Balti.  The Moldovan Church,
|> previously subordinate to the Russian Orthodox Church, will enjoy
|> autonomy under the canonical jurisdiction of the Romanian
|> Patriarchate.  (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

Does any one happen to know what the Moscow Patriarchate's reaction
to this is?  Or to the Moldova situation in general?

-----------

Norman Redington
Fellowship of Orthodox Christian University Students
From: Marcus L. Endicott <mendicott@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:22 PST
Subject: Romanian Greens
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1601400002:000:278
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!mendicott    Dec 23 18:22:00 1992


What is the current situation with the Ecological Movement of Romania
(Miscarea Ecologista Din Romania - MER) and with the Romanian Ecologist
Party (Partidului Ecologist Roman - PER) ??  Please email ME
>mendicott@igc.apc.org< a copy of your response.

Thanx!
- Marcus Endicott
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: BUYING ROMANIAN CURRENCY
Date: 22 Dec 1992 06:18:04 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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I am collecting foreign currencies.  If you are interested, please contact
robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu
(internet address)
From: z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Import/Export research
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:43:03 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello all,

	We are doing research on various items that international countries
would be interested in exporting and importing.  The items can consist of
anything from clothing to large machines.  Of course, they must be a legal
product to enter and exit the different countries.  These are some questions 
that we are trying to find the answers to:
 
1.) How would we gather information concerning the legal regulations on
	shipping to or from Romania? 

2.) Who would an individual contact in that country about shipping
	requirements?  

3.) What kind of licences or paper work does a company need to enter
	that foreign market place?


I really would appreciate any help concerning this matter.  Thank you very
much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.




Sincerely,


Ron Ables

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From: alexmi@soul.tv.tek.com (Alex Mitaru)
Subject: looking for Mr. Mihai Botez
Originator: alexmi@soul.tv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix TV Products
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:28:40 GMT




   Sorry if this is an inappropriate use of the newsgoup, BUT, I am trying
 to locate Mr Mihai Botez for Professor Trandafir Moisa from the Polytechnical
 Insitute in Bucharest.
   Please reply to this account, or you can call me, Alex Mitaru, at
   (503) 646-3978



 Thank you, Alex



Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 21 dec 1992
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:13:52 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report                No. 244, 21 December 1992

ROMANIA RECOGNIZES CZECH, SLOVAK REPUBLICS. On 18 December
Romania announced its decision to recognize the Czech and Slovak
Republics as distinct entities beginning 1 January 1993. In a
message broadcast by Radio Bucharest the Foreign Ministry
expressed willingness to establish diplomatic relations with the
new states, successors to the Republic of Czechoslovakia, and to
appoint ambassadors to both Prague and Bratislava. CTK has
reported that Poland and Ukraine plan to recognize the two states
on 1 January. (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

FORMER KING TO VISIT ROMANIA. Ex-King Michael of Romania will
visit his homeland over Christmas. Western agencies reported on
18 December that Michael's four-day visit will include attending
a church service in the city of Timisoara on Christmas Day.  The
former king, whom the communists forced to abdicate on 30
December 1948, has lived in Swiss exile for 30 years. He first
returned to Romania in April this year, when he celebrated Easter
in Bucharest and Bukovina.  An attempt to visit Timisoara and
Brasov in August failed, after Romania's government denied him a
visa for fear that the visit would affect the 27 September
presidential and general elections. (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

ROMANIAN PRINTERS RETURN TO WORK. Radio Bucharest announced on 18
December that striking printers will resume work beginning 19
December.  The Printers Union decided to suspend a stoppage over
pay that had idled state-owned printing shops for three
consecutive days. The decision comes after a three-part agreement
with the government was concluded providing for a 50% pay rise as
of 1 January 1993, and a further 50% increment by the end of
1993.  The cabinet also agreed that there will be no layoffs and
pledged to support programs for improving equipment and
retraining workers. Only three newspapers, printed in
privately-owned shops, were published during the stoppage.  (Dan
Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

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From: POPOVICI@MURRVAX.BITNET (Mihai Popovici)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: More Ion Barbu
Date: 24 Dec 1992 03:10:39 GMT
Organization: MURR
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        Here is a translation of a poem of Ion Barbu, a well-
known Romanian poet who was also a professor of mathematics
with well-known scientific work on the theory of groups.
        This poem is seen as his profession of faith.
        It is about humans transcending their status of
prisoners by seeking order in an apparently chaotic world,
in which their minds look "as if a mistake". The "closed
resuming gesture" is a reference to the group operation.

GROUP
  The dungeon lies in burnt, unworthy earth,
  Of day, the rays' hay is deceiving;
  But our heads, if any, stand about,
  Lime ovals as if a mistake.

  That many stacks of irregular straws!
  A closed resuming gesture will they find,
  That, straight, the wry line would deny,
  Eye in virgin triangle cut to world?

GRUP
  E temnita in ars, nedemn pamint,
  De ziua, finul razelor insala;
  Dar capetele noastre daca sint,
  Ovaluri stau de var ca o greseala.

  Atitea claile de fire stingi!
  Gasi-vor gest inchis sa le rezume,
  Sa nege, dreapta, linia ce fringi:
  Ochi in virgin triunghi taiat spre lume?


Mihai Popovici (sr)
From: hancu@crim.ca (Marius Hancu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Message from ICI (Research Institute for Informatics), Bucharest
Summary: Message from Dr. Eugen Staicut
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:42:02 GMT
Organization: Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal


From: estaicut%roearn@vm.univie.ac.at



Draga Marius,

	Imi pare bine ca avem posibilitatea sa comunicam. Iti dau citeva
lamuriri:

1. Eu lucrez la Institutul de Cercetari in Informatica
		(Research Institute for Informatics)
		Bulevardul M. Averescu 8-10
		Sector 1, 71316 Bucharest
		Romania
		Tel +40-1-6652585
		Fax +40-1-6658539

   Eu lucrez in laboratorul de retele de calculatoare. Noi sintem de curind
conectati la Viena. In curind se vor conecta la noi IPB (catedra de 
calculatoare, laboratorul de metode numerice din facultatea de electrotehnica),
Universitatea Tehnica Timisoara, IFA, Institutul de matematica al Academiei.


La revedere,

Eugen Staicut

============
They are connected in fact to bitnet. However, they also receive mail from
Internet at the above-mentioned address from Austria. The transfer
works quite well (one hour both ways, it seems). However, they still
work on full Internet access (it seems they cannot post directly yet
or read news).

They just seem to have to install the internet software (they have a
public domain version) on their vax. I guess expert help would be appreciated.

Marius




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From: hancu@crim.ca (Marius Hancu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Free Unix for Romania: NEW SHIPMENT OF UNIX BOOKS 26/12/92
Summary: More Unix books are being sent to Romania
Date: 27 Dec 92 00:03:45 GMT
Organization: Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal

I sent today the following message to Prof. Mircea Bodea at the
Polytehnical Institute, Bucharest, Romania.
===============

Dear Professor Bodea:

In the closing days of the 1992, we are trying to let the old year go
with a bing bang. And to provide some food for thought, i.e. books
purchased as a direct result of the generosity of several donors:

- lex and yacc, funding by Catalin Ivan
- Unix network programming, funding by Samuil Mincu
- vol. 4 and 5 of the O'Reilly series on X windows, funding by Mihai
Dima
- Unix advanced programming, funding by Amelia Eslinger and Christian
Cojocaru
- 4.3BSD Unix, funding by Mihai Dima and an anonymous donor
- Unix Shell programming, funding by Paul & Mirela Bacinschi and Mihai
Popovici 

I would like to point out that you will be now in the possesion of
several jewels, especially the complete series of X windows from
O'Reilly. We hope they will be used as soon as possible not only in
research, but also in teaching. The majority of them come with complete
listings of programs (already delivered to you). In terms of titles
bought, these are my choices...

Each of the books has been emblazoned with the names of the donors.

All the books are donated to the Library of the Department of
Electronics of the Polytechnical Institute of Bucharest, Romania. As
previously specified, we would very much appreciate if you, in your
position of de facto curator of these books, will make them available
widely in Romania, especially to the universities and research
institutes, but also to large and small companies. And of course, we
expect the books to be officially registered with the library.

The books will be shipped to you Monday, Dec. 28, by surface mail.


Have a VERY HAPPY 1993!

Marius Hancu

==================================================================

For the "locals":

GIVE GENEROUSLY AND MAKE YOUR FRIENDS DO THE SAME, USE ALL YOUR
NETWORKING TALENTS!!

Thank you for the effort!



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 29 dec 1992
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:05:22 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report                  No. 248, 29 December 1992

ROMANIAN VOLUNTEERS FIGHTING FOR SERBIA? In an interview broadcast
on Radio Bucharest on 28 December National Defense Minister
Nicolae Spiroiu denied Romanian officers are fighting as
volunteers on Serbia's side.  The denial came in the wake of a
declaration made in Geneva by Croatian President Franjo Tudjman
and reported by AFP and Hungarian Radio. Spiroiu said that there
are no Romanian volunteers or Romanian military personnel in
Serbia or elsewhere on the territory of former Yugoslavia.
(Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)

ROMANIANS PROTEST HANDLING OF KING'S VISIT.  Over 130 Romanian
politicians, cultural figures, and scientists signed a protest
against the government's handling of the aborted visit of former
King Michael to Romania over Christmas. The protest was sent to
Rompres and quoted by Radio Bucharest on 28 December.  The
signatories said the government has "once more displayed
antidemocratic behavior," demonstrating "obstacles specific to
totalitarian regimes" may also be "encountered on the path to
democracy." (Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)

DECLINING FOOD CONSUMPTION, RISING UNEMPLOYMENT IN ROMANIA. A
study released by the National Statistics Board of Romania, quoted
by Rompres on 14 December, shows a steady decline in food
consumption. The study, based on a representative sample of
working families, shows that average monthly consumption in the
first half of 1992 was lower than in the same period in 1991.
Romanians eat less fresh meat and meat products, fish and fish
products, eggs, sugar, potatoes, and fruit. Consumption among
pensioners is even lower than the average.  Expenditures on food,
on the other hand, grew among wage-earners from 51.6% in 1991 to
56.5% in 1992 and among retired persons from 61.7% to 66.6%.
Romania lags behind other former communist countries, such as
Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, and Czechoslovakia in food consumption.
According to data released on 28 December by the Ministry of Labor
and Social Protection and carried by Radio Bucharest and Rompres
on the same day, the number of unemployed persons in Romania has
risen to 1,043,780--9.4% of the total work force. (Michael Shafir,
RFE/RL, Inc.).

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From: hancu@crim.ca (Marius Hancu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Helpging Romanians is worth every penny (Amelia Eslinger)
Summary: Letter/contribution to Free Unix for Romania
Date: 1 Jan 93 13:04:06 GMT
Organization: Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal

Hi:

I just got this letter from Amelia Eslinger (with a cheque for 30$).
Please read it and draw your own conclusions. Thanks, Amelia. Marius Hancu.
============

Dear Mr. Hancu:

I don't know much about computers, but whatever I can do to help
Romanians is worth every penny. 

I am a student at Western Michigan Univ and was in Romania for just a
couple weeks, (Sibiu, Sighisoara, Rupea, Bucuresti). Am hoping to go
back this summer. 

All the best to you and your efforts.

Sincerely,

Amy Eslinger.



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 22 dec 1992
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:39:18 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report                 No. 245, 22 December 1992

ANTALL REBUFFS ILIESCU ON SUMMIT.  MTI reports that for the third
time Hungarian Prime Minister Jozsef Antall has rejected Romanian
President Ion Iliescu's suggestion for a personal meeting. Antall
said that meeting for meeting's sake would not be productive but
urged that ministerial-level meetings continue. (Karoly
Okolicsanyi, RFE/RL, Inc.)

ROMANIA COMMEMORATES 1989 UPRISING. On 21 December the two
chambers of Parliament convened in a solemn joint session to
commemorate the third anniversary of the 1989 uprising that put an
end to Nicolae Ceausescu's regime in Romania. In a key speech,
broadcast by Radio Bucharest, President Ion Iliescu took the
opportunity to criticize the way reforms had been carried out in
postrevolutionary Romania.  He spoke out for continuing reforms in
a "coherent manner," but avoiding "excessive politicization" in
their implementation.  He also insisted that "the state should
coordinate the process of reforms," but added that this should not
be interpreted as a return to the command economy. (Dan Ionescu,
RFE/RL, Inc.)

METROPOLIS OF BESSARABIA REACTIVATED. On 19 and 20 December Radio
Bucharest reported that the Romanian Orthodox Church has decided
to reactivate the Metropolis of Bessarabia, headquartered in
Chisinau, which had been abolished by the Soviets after World War
II.  The decision was taken at the request of a Moldovan
delegation headed by Bishop Petru of Balti.  The Moldovan Church,
previously subordinate to the Russian Orthodox Church, will enjoy
autonomy under the canonical jurisdiction of the Romanian
Patriarchate.  (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

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From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 23 dec 1992
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:00:33 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report                  No. 246, 23 December 1992

PROTESTS MAR ROMANIAN REVOLUTION ANNIVERSARY.  Hundreds of
demonstrators protested against the continued influence of former
communists in Romania's political life, Reuters reported from
Bucharest on 22 December.  An estimated 500 demonstrators shouted
and booed as President Ion Iliescu, Premier Nicolae Vacaroiu, and
other government officials laid a wreath at Bucharest's University
Square to honor those killed in the 1989 uprising against the
former regime. Romanian Radio and TV reported on the ceremony, but
were silent on the protest demonstration.  (Michael Shafir,
RFE/RL, Inc.)

KING ORDERED TO STAY OUT OF POLITICS DURING ROMANIAN VISIT.
According to a communiqui released by the Foreign Ministry and
carried by Rompres on 22 December, during his Christmastime visit
in Romania, former king Michael must refrain from politics. The
ministry said the king has accepted the condition, but warned that
Michael's visa will be revoked if his visit, defined as "private,"
leads to his involvement in "activities of a political nature, as
was the case during his previous visit" last April.  (Michael
Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)

SPIROIU: ROMANIAN MILITARY DOCTRINE IS STILL DEFENSIVE.  Romania's
military doctrine was defensive in nature when the country was a
member of the Warsaw Pact and is still so at present, says
Minister of National Defense Lt.  Gen.  Nicolae Spiroiu.  In an
interview with Azi carried by Rompres on 22 December, Spiroiu said
that when the other members of the pact had adopted an offensive
military doctrine Romania, had refused to join them; therefore
there was no need to make basic changes after Ceausescu's ouster.
He added that Romania is studying various Western military models
to adapt them to its needs.  According to Spiroiu added that local
industry is meeting 95% of the army's requirements for equipment.
(Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: mark@fenris.albany.edu (Mark Steinberger)
Subject: Re: ACLU/AJC Menorah Police?
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:57:23 GMT

strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>Does anyone know what the h... is going on when the AJC tries to stop
>a menorah lighting?

The thing that gets me about this issue of religious versus secular is
that many Christian-associated religious images are treated as secular.

Public figures have started to refer to Christmas trees as "seasonal
trees," and they are commonly displayed in public places, including
the White House. And many towns have Santa Clauses and the like
adorning their lamp posts.

But as soon as the symbol is Jewish, they call it religious.

There is a double standard here.


Incidentally, I'm all for keeping prayer out of school functions. On
this, I agree with AJC: prayer belongs in family oriented situations
and not in public ones.


--Mark
From: jfox@vms.macc.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Reich, Rubin, Kanter?
Date: 27 Dec 92 17:38:51 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin


Donna Shalala's family background is Maronite Christian (Lebanese).

In article <1992Dec26.232018.20359@sarah.albany.edu>, mark@fenris.albany.edu (Mark Steinberger) writes...

>In article <1992Dec24.195753.1116@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
> 
>>Yes? Anyone else?
> 
>Shalala.
> 
> 
>--Mark
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: chr04ha@vmsa.technion.ac.il
Subject: Re: Jewish Christmas Carol Hits
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:37:41 GMT

In article <1hb6teINNcj@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, 
jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love) writes:

> for years. I don't know about Hanukkah songs, but I think the
> Lennon sisters made a hit out of Ba mir bist du schane (with
> apologies for spelling errors and mis-attributions).
> 

For "Lennon" read "Andrews".

 *---------------------------------------------------------------*
 | E.A. Halevi, Department of Chemistry, Technion - I.I.T.       |     
 | "Mipnei seiva takum, vehadarta pnei zaken" - Leviticus 19, 32 |
 *---------------------------------------------------------------*

and I am "zaken" enough to remember.
                                      Amitai

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