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From: schnell@pyramid.unr.edu (Dan Schnell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 30231
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:51:43 GMT
Reply-To: schnell@pyramid.unr.edu (Dan Schnell)
Organization: University of Nevada Reno

In article <1992Dec9.171827.4223@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>I've just got a few things to coment about and all.
>
>on Wednesday.  Washington by 3 over Dallas.  What?  What did I miss?  The
>Redskins beat NY and Phoenix by big scores, and Sheridan favors them over,
>arguably the best team in the NFL right now?  Don't get me wrong, I love the
>..............pray Sheridan is not bonkers,.......                           
 
I'm sorry to break the news, but Sheridan is bonkers.  :)

The "lines" are not Danny Sheridan's to make.  Sheridan is called linemaker
by milquetoast papers like USA today because he has absolutely no connection
with the real line makers.  The lines that matter are made by some guy named
Roxy Roxborough who is from Vegas.

I say this because every year Sheridan picks the Colts or somebody at 
1,000,000,000 to 1 odds to win the Super Bowl.  What an idiot.  I send
him a penny, and if by some chance the Colts win the Super bowl, he
owes me 10 million dollars?  Right.  He doesn't take MONEY so he can't be
taken seriously.  

Besides, you're missing the big picture.  The purpose of the lines is to
get people to bet.  listen carefully here...

IF you think you you're stealing money or something, by taking the cowboys
this week.... then

		COME ON IN, THE WATER'S FINE.

Thousands of people bet millions of dollars everyt Sunday and they're SO
sure they're "stealing money".  And the linemaker is high on garbonga....
The book will take 1/2 the money on Wash. and 1/2 on the Cowboys, and make
money whoever wins.  Pull out yer coin purse and show us how much of a smart
bettor you are, by betting real money.

If you bet the farm and win we will all respect you for being a shrewd gambler. 

BTW, I agree.  The Cowboys are going to CRUSH the Redskins.  And I hate
the Cowboys because they cost me money when I bet them against the Rams.
Oh, but that linemaker must have been faced when he picked them to
win at home by 8 1/2 pts.....

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Dan Schnell
Go, Chargers.  Go, go, go.  Do do do it.  You can win, if you go for it.
Everybody wants to win.  So let's do do. do. do it.
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!)
Subject: Re: Aren't there rules against this? (Was:Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!)
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:48:24 GMT

In article <1gf28jINNo08@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield) writes:
>From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
>Subject: Re: Aren't there rules against this? (Was:Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!)
>Date: 13 Dec 1992 10:11:31 GMT
>Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this
>
>Yes, i yelled at him too, but hey I don't think that it's his fault and i 
>wonder if he minds that we keep talking about him like he doesn't exist.
>
>They come in nice intervals of 5 minutes and sometimes 10 minutes, but they
>are always almost to the second.  I doubt anyone could keep this up for the
>12+ hours that they have been posted.
>
>Therefore, i take back my threat of slashing your tires and simply state that
>if it hasn't stopped by the new year then you will find yourself with the
>biggest weggie you've ever had fantasies of. I don't want to come back from
>Winter Break and find the group saying i have over 5000 unread articles. :)
>
>--David
>(Charger Power!!!!!!!!!!!)
>Oh, and congrats to USD for their second place finish in the NCAA Div I Mens
>Soccer Finals!!!!!!!!!!!)
>
I'll see if I can contact the postmaster at princeton.
Maybe we can clear it.
Adriene
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From: imprint@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper)
Subject: Re: Broncos list needs Colorado source
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:14:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.110234.5304@csd.uwe.ac.uk> m_lott@csd.uwe.ac.uk (M Lott) writes:
>In article <92343.134839AOAFF@ASUACAD.BITNET> AOAFF@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>>I am maintaining a Broncos email list of about 22 die hard Broncos fans all
>>across the United States who need a RELIABLE source for weekly Broncos
>>news (at least during the season) since many of us do not get to see the
>>Broncos games each week and do not get the Denver papers. We are not expecting
>>tons of material, just short reports on games, injuries, and other
>>news regarding the team, such as trades, plan-B, and the draft.
>>Please send me email if you might be able to provide such news on a
>>fairly regular basis, or if you would like to be added to our email list.
>>
>>Allen French
>Can anyone tell me the address of the Denver Broncos mailing list?
>Thanks in advance.

Anyone with said address: could you e-mail or post same?

Thanks,
Peter Brown
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From: miked@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Mike Doskas)
Subject: Re: The Play of the Day (Skins/Dallas)
Reply-To: miked@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Mike Doskas)
Organization: Bell Northern Research Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:45:42 GMT


In article <1gi5djINNid8@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
|>
|> ...
|>
|> The argument on the play in the endzone was not the "only play" that cost the 
|> Cowboys a game they domminated. When you have the ball on the two and
|> heave up a INT, you lose it's that simple. The Cowboys have no one to blame
|> but themselves. Hey you win some and lose some, 11-3 , I can live with 
|> that.
|> 
|> Win with style and lose with style. (unlike some other teams fans:-)
|> 
|> Go Cowboys !!!
|> tim 
|> 

IMHO, it was the interception at the goalline that cost the 'Boys
the game, not the fumble in the end zone.  At least on the fumble,
they had reason to throw: it was 2nd and long, and with the 'Skins
still having two timeouts left, not getting the first down on this
series meant that the 'Skins would get the ball around midfield
with well over two minutes remaining (and of course, we all know
that hurry-up offense + prevent defense = points!).

But why throw the football when you're 3rd and goal at the opponent's
2-yd line, with about 13 minutes left in the 4th quarter?  Especially
when Emmitt has been picking up consistent yardage on the very same
drive.  Why not hand it to Emmitt?  If he scores, great.  If not, you
run some more time off the clock, boot the FG, and now the 'Skins
offense (having a bad day) has to get a TD and a FG in about 12
minutes just to tie you!

The decision to throw in this situation (was it Johnson's? or was it
an audible?) changed the whole momentum of the game, and was the play
most responsible for the 'Boys loss.


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From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster)
Subject: Re: Patriots Poll
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:48:22 GMT

In article <1gilatINN4k@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer) writes:
 
>In article <1ggpe1INNhr6@crcnis1.unl.edu> mgleason@cse.unl.edu (Mike Gleason) writes:
>>
>>DBs: Maybe Curry from 'Bama.
>
>we could REALLY use a CB and a safety.
>
If you want a defensive back, look at Deion Figures from Colorado.
This guy is terrific.  Colorado plays man coverage, and in over 400
one-on-one covers, he allowed six complations and had six
interceptions.  Averaged over 11 yards per punt return, too.
 
He won't go on the number one pick, but whichever team gets him will be
very happy for a long time.
 
Jim McMaster
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:50:09 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rebellion in Chicago.
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:51:55 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec14.161215.1733@pixel.kodak.com> fbrown@ssd.kodak.com (Frank Brown) writes:
>
>While watching the highlights of the games yesterday. I saw Ditka go off
>on one of his famous dressdown of a player. Harbaraugh(sp) took it all
>in stride but another player did not want to hear it and told Dikta  "F**K YOU!!" 
>Even though I couldn`t hear it I'm positive that is what he said. It was really easy
>to read his lips. Anybody from the Chicago know what Ditka was bitching
>about and who the player was.  Is he good enough to swear at the coach and
>be back next year? Or will It be Dikta himself who is gone?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Frank


It was tackle Stand Thomas who was the latest recipient if the Ditka-ism.
He DID reply with a f**k you.  Lessee, you are pretty much shutting down 
one of the most dominant teams in the AFC, the game is pretty much in hand
and what do you do... try to demoralize a tackle by yelling at him?

If Ditka goes, my prediction for the new head coach of Chicago is...
BILL PARCELLS.  Think about it,  they are a class organization, they play
the kind of game Parcells likes (conservative grind it out O, dominant D),
and with some players on D they should be back in the playoff hunt.  Just
my opinion.


satish nair
giants (5-11 in '92)
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From: hrad@ellis.uchicago.edu (Vince Hradil)
Subject: Re: Pitt Vs. Bears
Reply-To: hrad@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:33:37 GMT

In article <Bz61BI.F09@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>I have not kept up on Bears news as of late.
>Do the Bears fans out there have any idea
>of how the teams emotions are this week.

I think the emotions have been pretty high.  But then, you
could have said the same thing about the last 4 weeks'
games!  I think the difference with this game is that it is
Mike Singletary's last home game.  That may fire up Da
Bearss enough to pull off the upset.

>I look for a good game.  Steelers need a convincing
>win after some narrow wins.  Hopefully Brister will
>not make mistakes for the team and they will play
>well with Foster carrying the load.

Another factor which will affect the game is the return of
Jim Harbaugh.  I don't know why he hasn't played lately.
IMO he is a much better choice than PT.  I know they just
needed to try to change _anything_, but after giving Willis
the shot two weeks ago, I think Ditka should have come back
with Jim against the Erlers.  One week too late.

>
>What is the weather report for Chicago area tomorrow?

It should be in the 40's and partly sunny.  There has been
snow on the ground here, but the field is usually kept
covered, so the weather should not be a factor either way.
You never know about the wind, though.

>Any thoughts anyone?

See above :^)

>
>Don


Vince


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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: STERLING SHARPE IS BETTER THAN JERRY RICE.
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:39:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.015559.26021@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.165509.4702@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>
>>In article <88=x03hZc1qg00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:
>
>>>I disagree. I think Rice would have HUGE numbers if he was the only threat 
>>>on the field just because he'd get the ball more. Out here in the Bay Area,
>>>we know all too well that Rice has complained openly of not seeing the ball 
>>>enough on more than one occasion. 
>
>>Then "out here in the Bay Area" you are not paying attention. Rice's numbers
>>went DOWN when Taylor was hurt. 

>I don't know that this is conclusive.  We don't have enough data points
>on 1992 games in which Taylor has played to draw a conclusion on Rice's
>1992 performance.  What we *do* know is that the Niners found a RB this
>year that they can incorporate into the offense.  Without such a weapon,
>the already mighty passing game would:

We DO have data points that indicate that Rice does better with Taylor than 
without.

>1) be used more by the Niners
>2) get more attention from opponents

>And these work to offset one another.  We still don't have a model that
>hints at whether being the team's lone superstar is better or worse for
>individual stats than being one weapon in a well-stocked arsenal.

Why is this so complicated? If you have multiple weapons, you'll get more first
downs, and more chances for more catches later.

>And it could be a reversing function to boot:  being the only star is
>good for stats, having one or two other weapons hurts the stats, having
>several starts helping again.  Also, the nature of the weapons could
>cause them to have different effects.  

Thiesman ran a decent chart on the receivers with over 100 catches per season.
If Sharpe makes it, he will be the only one who didn't have a WR partner
with AT LEAST 45 catches.

>>And Rice openly complains about a) not being
>>appreciated by the fans 

>Haven't heard this lately.

Last time was 5 games ago (SF Chronicle). Seems lately to me.

>>b) not getting the Disneyland commercial 
>
>That was four years ago.  Give him a break.

See above. And then remember his comments about the 9er's organization this 
winter.

>>c) Steve
>>Young's throwing ability d) the DeBartalo's tightfistedness on his contract.

>Haven't heard these either.  Care to cite sources?

Uh, SF Chronicle? It IS available here, you know. Do you in fact remember that
there WAS a problem in his re-signing? Do you remember ANY of Rice's complaints?
Or do you forget them?

>This is also totally irrelevant to the issue of WR talent.  It is,
>however, rather insightful into your dislike of him.

I see. Someone else quotes Rice's complaints, and it is data. *I* quote Rice's
complaints, and it's "dislike". Brilliant. Sheer, unmitigated genius.

Mike

Mike
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From: rege@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins News - 12/14/92
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:10:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: bongo.berkeley.edu

In article <28481@oasys.dt.navy.mil> swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) writes:
>
>Some of you may remember that Jason Buck was cut off by another team 
>last year because of his size.  The Redskins picked him up and put 
>him in weight program.

  I've always wondered about this mysterious "weight program" of the
  Redskins, is it similar to the mysterious "injuries" the excess 
  players  on the roster pick up every now and then ?
 
 
>For those who wanted soap-opera melodrama, the Darrell Green vs.
>Michael Irvin confrontation was too good to be true.  Irvin caught
>his 105 yards worth of passes after threatening during the week that
>he was "going after" Green's right arm, which was broken early in
>the season.

  I wonder if the Cowboys are going to be the Bills of the 90's - lot
  of talented but trash-talking stars pulling in different directions. 
  Of course given that the NFC always wins the Super Bowl, the Cowboys
  will choke in the NFC playoffs rather than the big dance. 

  Wonderingly,

  Ashu Rege
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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: BIlls are READY
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:11:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

I'll be Soooo! happy if there is a Bills 9ers SB. Once and for all we can
get these STUPID IGNORANT MORONIC 9ers fans to SHUT THE F>>> up!!



GOOOOOOOOO! BILLssssssssss! or anyone just shut up these idiots!
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: Wildcard Teams to the Super Bowl
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:29:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.220911.17711@europa.asd.contel.com> ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com writes:
>The closest that an NFC wildcard team has advanced was the conference
>championship game, as illustrated by:
>
>	1980 Dallas
>	1986 Washington
>	1987 Minnesota
>	1989 LA Rams

Now Bob, this is incorrect.

The first wildcard team to make it to the SB was the 1975 Cowboys. How
can a Skins fan forget that? 

This wildcard team making the SB has been at a 5-year interval: 1975, 1980,
1985 ... So by 1990, I thought it was the year of the wildcard Redskins,
until Ryp threw 3 interceptions at Candlestick .....

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From: mlsa@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: SKINS RULE
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:53:12 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

RYPIEN TO SANDERS HE COULD GO ALL THE WAY

TOUCHDOWN SKINS SCORE 10-7

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:50:14 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Play of the Day (Skins/Dallas)
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:35:11 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

>What is this saying then about Rypien? Since Aikman has led the Cowboys on a
>very respectable 11-3 record, Rypien has led the Redskins to a 9-5 record. He
>hasn't looked good all year and he didn't look good during the
>Cowboys/Redskins game.

That's not a fair comparison.  For one thing, Aikman had a healthy offensive
line this year whereas Rypien didn't.  Just try switching the quarterbacks
and see how well Aikman would have done with a badly banged-up Redskins
offensive line.

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