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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:54:57 EST
From:         "Gerald W. Schlabach" <GSCHLABA@IRISHVMA>
Subject:      Apple crisp recipe
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Okay, here is a recipe for apple crisp, from page 270 of the MORE-WITH-LESS
COOKBOOK.  I discovered to my chagrin that it credits a cook from Ontario, and
another from Pennsylvania, but this is the same stock and it comes out like my
mother made.  Sorry I can't supply metric equivalents, by the way.

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APPLE CRISP

Serves 6 / 375 degrees F / 35 min.

Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
Combine and put in greased casserole:
        3 c. sliced or chopped apples
        1 T. flour
        1/4 c. sugar
        1 t. cinnamon
        1/8 t. salt
        1 T. water
Cut together with pastry blender:
        1/2 c. rolled oats
        1/4 t. salt
        1/4 c. margarine
        1/3 c. brown sugar
Sprinkle on tope of casserole mixture.
Bake 35 minutes.

Addendum:
double and put in 8x8" pan
(These are my wife Joetta's pencil marks in the margin!  Trust her, she's the
author/editor of sequal EXTENDING THE TABLE: A WORLD COMMUNITY COOKBOOK, if I
may brag.  We share the cooking, but not the writing of cookbooks!)

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Now, just for fun, do folks on the other side of the Atlantic know what
rhubarb is?  If not, I despair of description.  Maybe: sour, course
reddish-green celery-like stalks with broad allegedly poisonous leaves;
heartily survives like a weed once planted.  Maybe Dorothy Day can improve on
the description!  In any case, here is a variation, straight from an index
card in our recipe box, and verbatim except for the stains:

RHUBARB CRUNCH

4 c. diced rhubarb

Mix until crumbly:           _
    1 c. flour                |
    3/4 c. uncooked oatmeal   |
    1 c. brown sugar, packed  |- crumb mixture
    1/2 c. melted butter      |
    1 t. cinnamon            _|
                        _
    1 c. white sugar     |
    2 T. cornstarch      |- combine and cook until thick & clear
    1 c. water           |
    1 t. vanilla        _|

1.  Press half of crumbs in a 9" greased pan.
2.  Add rhubarb
3.  Pour second mixture over rhubarb.
4.  Top with remaining crumbs.
5.  Bake 350 degrees -- 1 hr.

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Shalom.  Enjoy.

Gerald W. Schlabach
University of Notre Dame
Schlabach.1@nd.edu
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 92 09:55:33 IST
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar, Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM>
Subject:      Re: Scaleable fonts
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The Hebrew fonts in NBLINGUA should be fully scalable.
At least the fontmaker, Samuel Gutman of Jerusalem,
has told me that they were designed to be so. There
aren't any fonts around which come even closer to the
quality of these fonts; they are the closest possible
to book printing fonts. I am sure that no Macintosh
fonts are available at this quality.

Itamar E-Z
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 92 08:33:24 GMT
From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Speller
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              19, 92 10:22 pm

>
>
> A couple of us here have encountered Ian Jarvie's speller problem. For
> cogent reasons which now escape me we concluded that it has to do with
> an interaction between NB and our most reent version of Ibid. We have
> learned to live with it. We hope it will goaway with NB 4.0.
>      Robert W. Binkley: Department of Philosophy (rbinkley@uwovax.uwo.ca)
>      University of Western Ontario: London, Ont. N6A 3K7, CANADA
>

I have just posted a comment in Iam Jarvie's query. This is thus an
addendum.

I do not have Ibid. When upgrading, I was required to tell the system
that I was upgrading an Ibid-less installation of NB. I suggest,
therefore, that Ibid has nothing to do with it.
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 92 12:29:07 EST
From:         Michael <BELL@NYSPI>
Subject:      Re: Reverse printing - is possible??
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              20 Aug 92 11:00:46 GMT from <M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK>

Somem time ago I saw a little device that can do what you want.
It was a triangular shape paper "catch basket".

               ____________
              |            |.        .
              |            | .     .
              |            | .   .
              |            | .__

 It flipped pages printed side down, so when you collected them after
 printing, they were in the correct order.  And it does not cause the
 spelling checker to draw boxes. Guaranteed!
                                                Michael
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 92 09:44:17 EDT
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM>
Subject:      If it looks like a duck...
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From: Allan Needell

Ken,

Apolgies for misleading language. Of course en and em dashes are relics of the
days when type was set with real lead. When you print with a laser (or other
printer) all that matters is what winds up on the paper. If you get a line
half way up the printed letters and it is about two spaces long (with no
missing pieces), who's going to argue with you if you say its an em dash,
really!

The "looks like" reference just compares to two hyphens -- which have a little
space between them, and don't really look like em dashes.

Thanks also to Itamar. I have sent for general.zip and will try to bone up on
separators.

PS. Is the "looks like a duck...." reference familiar? Where does it come
from? (i.e., If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a
duck....its a duck!)

Allan Needell
National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, DC 20560  (BITNET: NASSH100@SIVM)
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 13:44:24 GMT
From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Bramleys, cider,
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              Porter Chair of Semiotics" at Aug 18, 92 2:56 pm

>
>
> Sorry, that was not the right answer. Before you run the
> speller, DISABLE your personal spell (or tell the speller to point at
> problems, not correct them automatically).
>
> Itamar
>

Itamar,

I assume that you mean both messages must be applied: change the .SPL
file, and also do this. Certainly, guarantees or not, changing the
SPL file alone does not work. Do you mean that one should select
those i's to be left as is, and those i's to be changed to I's? This
seems to be no solution: the idea is to do a `hands-off' run of the
spelling checker.
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 14:36:52 EST
From:         Michael <BELL@NYSPI>
Subject:      Re: Apple crisp recipe
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Of course we know what rhubarb is (at least in Poland).  Rhubarb pie
and rhubarb compote are some of my favorites.

                                         Michael Obuchowski
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:04:00 EDT
From:         ITF@PSUVM
Subject:      Re: Apples
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I would like to second the motion to kill the apple discussion.  It is
filling up my reader list, and as clever as it may sound to the
participants, it is a waste for the rest of us.  And oh, by the way, while
all you gourmets have been cooking your apples, has anybody checked to see
if indeed NBI has shipped anything yet?

Allen (itf@psuvm.psu.edu)

p.s. And if there are any more clever comments about the rain or sun in your ne
ck of the woods, I will write an ode to Philadelphia in summer.  That will kill
 your appetite.
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 92 16:24:41 IST
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar, Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM>
Subject:      Re: The trouble with UUENCODE
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Allan,

Files with the ARC extension on simtel20 are compressed with
the older PKPAK pgm, available from our listserv, as well
as from simtel20, as a self-extracting file. There isn't
very much to learn there: PKUNPAK will uncompress an ARC
file.

Newer files on simtel20 are compressed with PKZIP, and have the
ZIP extension.

If you download SHEZ, you will be able to handle ARC, ZIP, LZH,
ARJ, etc., files with minimum of trouble. This excellent shell
takes care of all the compressing pgms. You can easily view,
uncompress, delete, etc. It really is worthwhile to acquire.

SHEZ74.ZIP and SHEZ74x.ZIP are the latest on <msdos.arc-lbr>.
the 'x' version is a fix, so you must dowload both. The
pgm is a shareware.

Itamar E-Z
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Subject:      Re: Avoiding unwanted capitalisation of i
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              92 1:21 pm

Hi!

And thanks for the friendly comment....

I don't know what apple crisp is, and I'm still waiting to be told.
Apple crumble is similar to the recipe which appeared yesterday. It's
basically the same dish with local names. ABSOLUTELY DELICIOUS.

I'm not an ornithologist - I just love the English blackbirds in
spring. They sit on prominent points, and sing like they are under a
government contract....

But owls are lovely. We have them in our valley - in our orchard,
actually. Last night I went out and a fox was barking close by.
Chilling sound, but I like it - fox hunting is one the English's less
agreeable customs.

And I tell you what - last week, late one night, I saw a young badger
in our orchard... nearly 25 years living there, and never seen before!
I was so happy to see it. I'ver never seen a wild badger, and I was
close enough to be able to swear that that's what it was - it was
certainly NOT one of my cats.

Cheers!
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:53:00 CST
From:         JEARLS%TINY@MSUS1
Subject:      PC-Write Translation
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Because our system is switching from bitnet to internet, I lost about a
week of broadcasts.  I had asked last week if anyone knew of a translation
program PC-Write==>NB and viceversa, or if WFW or Software Bridge were the
only, if more expensive, way to go.  I don't know if the message was
received or if anyone answered.  I would appreciate a word from out there
in Notabene world.
Thanks!
J. P. EARLS / ST.JOHN'S UNIV. / COLLEGEVILLE, MN
                                 56321 / JEARLS%TINY@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 92 05:35:31 EDT
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM>
Subject:      The trouble with UUENCODE
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From: Allan Needell

Dorothy, et. al.,

The character set used by the uuencode program includes the right and left
square brackets ; as many will see, these characters get corrupted during
some stage of the email process. In my case they arrive as vertical hyphens
(the shifted character to the immediate left for the backspace key on the
101-key keyboard. (Sorry--don't know the ascii #). Because I don't know which
(right or left) each represents, I can't run a ci routine on the file and so I
can't uudecode the messages.

Could you all use xxencode instead? Specifically, Dorothy, could you resent a
n xxendoced copy of NOCZ2?

Allan Needell
National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, DC 20560  (BITNET: NASSH100@SIVM)
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:26:24 GMT
From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Requested recipe....
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With apologies to those who find an apple a day too much...

Somebody asked me - I forget whom - for Geraldine's recipe, made up
out of her own head (as she says), for chutney. We take our curry
seriously (with a good vintage cider), and this has won prizes. Goes
wonderfully with cheese too - anyone heard of a ploughman's lunch? One
of England's real contributions to the good things of life:- big hunk
of cheddar or something like it, huge pickled onion, some butter,
perhaps a really good tomato, and whopping thick lump of bread or a
good crisp roll; and a big spoonful of pickle (=chutney).

Sorry no metric measures: but 1 lb = 16 ounces; 8 pints = 1 imperial
gallon.

5 lb apples
1 lb onions, prepared weight
6 oz chopped dates
12 oz sultanas
1.5 lb brown sugar
2 pints vinegar
1 teaspoon ground ginger
"""""""""" cinnamon
1.5 oz salt
3 chillies
2 garlic bulbs
some tamarind

Core, peel, cut up the apples. Chop up the onions and dates. Dissolve
the sugar in the vinegar in a preserving pan. When it's dissolved, add
the rest and cook over a low heat, stirring, till the liquid is driven
off and it's a nice chutney-type, even, mix.

Bottle in warmed screw-top bottles. Win prizes at the local country
show.

Message ends.....

Cheers!
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 92 12:07:36 -0400
From:         "Mark A. Husbands" <husbands@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: shipping of NB4/Ibid/Orbis
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              Aug 15, 92 11:00 pm

Dear Bill,

In your comments to the NB list you wrote:
>
> If the shipment of NB4 remains, as I suspect, in the
> perpetual cycle of imminent release, then I wonder if
> some of the more disgruntled customers of NBI might be
> willing to collaborate with me on a letter to the company.
> I have written several letters of complaint, but have
> received no answer from them.  Perhaps as a group we
> could state more forcefully our dissatisfaction with this
> state of affairs and suggest in a constructive way the NBI
>
> Bill Watts
> watts@butleru
>
I would be happy if you would be kind enough to forward to me a copy
of your letter for me to consider signing along with you. I too am
VERY disappointed by the delay and am even more disgruntled at the
seemingly cavalier attitude taken by NBI vis a vis servicing and
keeping thier user base informed and at the very least content with
the delays.


Mark Husbands
husbands@epas.utoronto.ca

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:38:00 EST
From:         STRAUSS@UNCA
Subject:      Re: Bramleys, cider, etc.
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This is heresy, no doubt. One of the nicest reasons for being on this
list are these digressive discursions.  Makes the day go faster. Just
thinking about scrumpy. I remember a clear, aplle-smelling English
cider I had at a pub in London in 1971. Tasted like apple-flavored
alcohol. Yummm.

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**           Bob Strauss            **
**         Ramsey Library           **
**          UNC-Asheville           **
**       Asheville, NC 28804        **
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ps: please send recipes, etc.
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Subject:      Spelling check with AU on: "ie i.e." problem (Calvados variety)
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              Porter Chair of Semiotics" at Aug 18, 92 2:54 pm

>
>
> If you enter
>
> ie i.e., (comma included) in your SPL file, the 'i' will NOT expand to 'I',
> even if you have
>
> i I
>
> in the same file.
>
> Guaranteed, or the money back.
>
> Itamar E-Z
>

OK, Itamar - I have not been able to try it yet as I write this, but
your guarantee is rock-solid, copper-bottomed, all wool and a yard
wide, and conforms to BSI and DIN standards. What makes it even more
attractive to the pedant in my soul is that it will not only be
italicised but correct in both syntax and style.

BUT WHY SHOULD THIS WORK???!!

Or is that a trade secret?
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 15:31:47 EDT
From:         John Thomas Dayton <tdayton@CTT.BELLCORE.COM>
Subject:      Enough apples!
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May we please drop the apple crisp discussion?  It's now the topic of most
of the mail I get.  Thanks.

--
Tom Dayton  (John Thomas Dayton, Jr.)
Bellcore, RRC 1H226, 444 Hoes Lane, Piscataway NJ 08854 USA
tdayton@ctt.bellcore.com
(908)699-6843 voice, (908)336-2969 fax
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM>
Subject:      em dash and spell checker
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From: Allan Needell

Tony Woozley's informative note on customizing separators is indeed in
general.zip as SE.DOC

I have easily modified my default.set file, adding a separator table as he
suggested. I am happy to report that the spell checker now checks words on
either side of an em dash separately. Problem solved. Many thanks to all who
helped.

Should anyone have difficulty obtaining SE.DOC, I have it on my mainframe disk
and can send it easily. Its less than two pages, single spaced.

Allan Needell
National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, DC 20560  (BITNET: NASSH100@SIVM)
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 14:47:51 EDT
From:         J.BERG@ACAD.SUFFOLK.EDU
Subject:      Re: apple crisp
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If you can find them, baldwins or gravensteins--sometimes commercially
available--do better than macs for pies, crisp, etc.
John Berg
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 20:10:00 GMT
From:         "Mark D. Szuchman, History, Florida Int. Univ." <SZUCHMAN@SERVAX>
Subject:      NB4/Orbis Shipping
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I now report with great trepidation on my call to NBI.  I fear that, first,
the good-natured electronic banter about applehood et al will come to a close,
since, while I don't pay much attention to the recipes and such, it gave me
respite from the more technical subjects, peppered with utterances of
frustration.

Second, I fear that, since NB4 began shipping yesterday (i.e. Monday), it may
raise the levels of anxiety, manifested by metaphorical clock and/or calendar
watching among some.  Orbis is planned for shippment this Thursday or next
Monday.

I would ask that we remember that every time that a new product was reported
to be shipping, Ibid, for example, or even a newsletter, there
was considerable variation in the dates when the items arrived in different
parts of the US and the globe.  They've proved that they have their system,
and that shipping is not all that they do.
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 92 04:27:00 GMT
From:         Mark C Wright <0005427510@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      RETRIEVING FILES IN BINARY
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I am on MCI mail at a remote location, trying to get a copy of PKZ110.EXE
from the listserv as a BINARfile.  I have heard there is a way to
tellthe server to send it as binary, and not to convert it to ascii,
but don't know the command.

Could someone give me the parameters to add on the the send command.
Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Mark Wright (also waiting for 4.0)
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              92 12:29pm

>
>                ____________
>               |            |.        .
>               |            | .     .
>               |            | .   .
>               |            | .__
>
>  It flipped pages printed side down, so when you collected them after
>  printing, they were in the correct order.  And it does not cause the
>  spelling checker to draw boxes. Guaranteed!
>
>

 Can you give me a name, or where I can get this animal?

Thanks!
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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