HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush)
Subject: To hell with all you philosophical pricks.
Followup-To: alt.music.enya
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:02:31 GMT

I'm getting sick of all you gutless fucks clogging up alt.evil with your "Oooh
Oooh, look at me, look at me, I wear black," fucking useless attitudes.  Save
it for talk.religion.misc, or better yet, alt.music.morrissey.  You cheesehead
chickenfuckers wouldn't recognize an evil idea if it possessed your sister's
mind and made her fuck your pet chihuahua.

So if you *must* post something, at least put an evil idea in it.  That's what
the "evil" in alt.evil means.

In that vein, imagine looking someone in the eyes while your took a boxcutter
and slowly made slits all around their body, and then unraveled their skin
like a sweater.

birdman@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush)
Subject: True Evil...
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:55:01 GMT

I just ran into the most truly evil thing I have ever seen.
	    Inf.
	     /
	S(w)=|  (1+t) * Exp[(-W^2*t^2)-jwt]  dt
	 xy  /
	   -Inf.

Sxy(w) is the - get this - "Cross Power Density Spectrum" of the jointly
stationary random processes Xt and Yt.

birdman@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.tasteless.jokes
From: cyeh@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Creature of Darkness)
Subject: Segmentation fault
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:27:42 GMT

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*** Program execution terminated by segmentation violation
In SweetJesus ()
called by God ()
called by program ()
End traceback.  Segmentation fault
You have new mail.
root@descartes 21 9:16pm julia [109]# prt genesis.p
root@descartes 21 9:16pm julia [110]# order

Spool queue: lp26 (lp26_3018)
Local (waiting to be sent to remote site):
descartes: processing, active job started at Sat Nov 21 21:16:54 1992

Rank   Owner          Job  Files                             Total Size
active cyeh           797  genesis.p                         8290 bytes
Remote(watami):
no entries
root@descartes 21 9:16pm julia [111]#
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  \  |  /  Secretary of the Computer Science Club |  dass ich nichts weiss.
     |   e-mail: cyeh@napier.uwaterloo.ca  Office: 3037  (519) 885-1211 x3870
From: cak10@po.CWRU.Edu (Corinne A. Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: True Evil...
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:44:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cak10@po.CWRU.Edu (Corinne A. Kelly)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush) says:

>I just ran into the most truly evil thing I have ever seen.
>	    Inf.
>	     /
>	S(w)=|  (1+t) * Exp[(-W^2*t^2)-jwt]  dt
>	 xy  /
>	   -Inf.
>
>Sxy(w) is the - get this - "Cross Power Density Spectrum" of the jointly
>stationary random processes Xt and Yt.
>
>birdman@nwu.edu
           /
how about  | (sinx)/x  ?
           /
-- 
cori a kelly
"You all think i'm mad.  I'm just a sane man fighting for his soul."
				 Renfield(as played by Tom Waits in Dracula)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: dante
From: bagnasco@mvx36.csata.it
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:34:59 +0100
Reply-To: bagnasco@mvx36.csata.it
Organization: TECNOPOLIS CSATA, Bari, Italy

In article <1992Nov17.022802.13131@ncsu.edu>, bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (BILLY JOE BISSETTE) writes:
>
>  Source is "The Divine Comedy," from the "Inferno" part.  As for whether it is
>"abandon all hope, ye who enter here." or "abandon hope, all ye who enter here."
>It's neither, Dante didn't write in English, he wrote in Italian(me thinks).
>Therefore, the correct quote would be in Italian.  It could probably be
>translated as either of the two versions you mentioned.  You could always find
>a Lit book(I'm sure an English teacher can find you one with that part of
>Dante's work (suggesting that someone should ask an english teacher, how evil
>can you get)).
>-- 
>----------bill the insane cultist, bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu
>Please make a donation to the "Raise a Great Old One" Foundation.
>Everyone chant with me:  Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
>                         Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!



THE EXACT INTERPRETATION IS THE FIRST: ABADON ALL HOPE, YE WHO ARE ENTER HEREF
From: LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Evil resides in Philly
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:07:44 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


I am the vessel for the most evil forces you dare encounter
I am indifference
I am pure logic
I am tainted love
Dare encounter me.. You will not win
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.magnus.and.ketil
From: magnus@bark-fddi.ii.uib.no (Magnus Alvestad)
Subject: Re: Behold, I am a Moria freak!
Reply-To: magnus@ii.uib.no
Organization: UVBS -> SFK/T-DSA / SOPS - HOS / RNoN
	<1992Nov16.181645.8116@nmsu.edu> <pershing.722489062@teal>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 04:15:40 GMT

	Paul> what a silly place to claim your are (fill in the blank)
	Paul> Evil, Satanist, Moria, Crowleyist, etc., etc.

	Paul> I don't imagine anyone who _is_ any of these things
	Paul> spends time trumpeting it on the net, various bbs, etc.

I am not a satanist.

It's true.

I'm not.

I never was.

And I don't know anything about it.

Never heard of them.

-Magnus
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: dante
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:18:06 -0600

In article <1992Nov17.022802.13131@ncsu.edu>  writes:
>  Source is "The Divine Comedy," from the "Inferno" part.  As for whether it is
>"abandon all hope, ye who enter here." or "abandon hope, all ye who enter here."
>It's neither, Dante didn't write in English, he wrote in Italian(me thinks).
>Therefore, the correct quote would be in Italian. 
>...

Good grief.
From: lhk2@po.CWRU.Edu (Lucas H. Kuzma)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: Evil resides in Philly
Date: 17 Nov 1992 00:00:06 GMT
Organization: anyway..
Reply-To: lsd@po.wow.Edu (lucas)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu (one who thinks he's cool) says:

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>I am the vessel for the most evil forces you dare encounter
>I am indifference
>I am pure logic
>I am tainted love
>Dare encounter me.. You will not win
>


SISSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


-- 
"I too have been in the underworld, like Odysseus, and shall yet return
there often; and not only sheep have I sacrificed to be able to talk
with a few of the dead, but I have not spared my own blood."
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: dante
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:50:23 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Nov18.195106.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
> In article <17053@umd5.umd.edu>, jmoore@lab2.smcm.edu (Joshua D. Moore) writes:
> 
>> it did indeed come from the first book of the divine comedy, inferno the  
>> other parts are pugatorio, and paradisio, hell, purgatory and heaven. it  
>> details the authors trip through these planes of reality looking for his  
>> girlfriend who had died.  it was written in latin as that was the language  
>> of the educated at the time, and one of the little quirks of latin is that  
>> word order is irrelevant so i imagine that it doesnt matter which of the  
>> two translations you use, it is personal interpritation.  little note,  
>> dante put a great many church officials, notably the pope of the time and  
>> the archbishop of the city he was from, in hell.
>> 
>> -samael.
> 
> You know, I could have *sworn* that the Divine Comedy was written in the
> Vulgar. I distincly remember learning that in 3 different history classes.
> 
> The point of it was that in the Renaissance, authors were moving away from
> Latin in favor of native languages.
> 
> Does word order matter in Italian?
> 
> --The Antichrist

Yes, I found a quote from _Inferno_ last night and, damn it, it *is* in
Italian! At least, it looked like Italian, it didn't look like Latin, and
I couldn't find the words when I looked 'em up in Latin dictionaries.

True, word order doesn't matter in Latin, but that's because the words were
modified so you could match 'em up. Thus, I would expect to be able to
determine whether "all" modified "hope" or "ye."

Here's the quote; any Italian students out there?

"Lasciate ogni speranza, voi, ch'entrate!"

Oh, yeah, I just remembered this is alt.evil, not alt.dante. Well, I gotta
question. Is it true that when you cut someone's head off, their brain is
still alive for a brief time? I heard that they could even look around with
their eyes, but this seems too far out. I haven't found a decent chopping
instrument yet....

--The Antichrist
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: dante
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:51:06 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <17053@umd5.umd.edu>, jmoore@lab2.smcm.edu (Joshua D. Moore) writes:

> it did indeed come from the first book of the divine comedy, inferno the  
> other parts are pugatorio, and paradisio, hell, purgatory and heaven. it  
> details the authors trip through these planes of reality looking for his  
> girlfriend who had died.  it was written in latin as that was the language  
> of the educated at the time, and one of the little quirks of latin is that  
> word order is irrelevant so i imagine that it doesnt matter which of the  
> two translations you use, it is personal interpritation.  little note,  
> dante put a great many church officials, notably the pope of the time and  
> the archbishop of the city he was from, in hell.
> 
> -samael.

You know, I could have *sworn* that the Divine Comedy was written in the
Vulgar. I distincly remember learning that in 3 different history classes.

The point of it was that in the Renaissance, authors were moving away from
Latin in favor of native languages.

Does word order matter in Italian?

--The Antichrist
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: pbray@sloth.Reed.Edu (Peter Bray)
Subject: heads and eyes (was Re: dante)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:24:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.195023.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>  
rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
> 
> Oh, yeah, I just remembered this is alt.evil, not alt.dante. Well, I  
gotta
> question. Is it true that when you cut someone's head off, their brain  
is
> still alive for a brief time? I heard that they could even look around  
with
> their eyes, but this seems too far out. I haven't found a decent  
chopping
> instrument yet....


Actually what you can do is to pop the eye ball out using your fingers.   
If your fingers don't work try gently impaling it with a sharp instrument.   
However, do this very gently so as to retain the optic nerve's connection.   
This way the you can hand the eye ball (that can still see) and sever  
his/her genitals/chest while they watch.  Gor this idea from AMOK.
From: lhk2@po.CWRU.Edu (Lucas H. Kuzma)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Evil resides in Philly
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:58:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: lsd@po.abc.Edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu (sissy) says:

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>I am the vessel for the most evil forces you dare encounter
>I am indifference
>I am pure logic
>I am tainted love
>Dare encounter me.. You will not win
>
come on then evil boy!


-- 
mad, adj.- Affected with a high degree of intellectual independence; not
 conforming to standards of thought, speech, and action derived by the
 conformants from study of themselves.

Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: pershing@teal.csn.org (Paul Pershing)
Subject: Re: Thoughtful insight
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:20:29 GMT

birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush) writes:

>Ten feet.  Definitely.

>_________
>_/__\_._| christopher s. kush / birdman@nwu.edu / (708) 467 2067
>_\@_|_._| computer systems / programming, industrial research laboratory
>___/____| 1801 maple avenue, evanston, illinois 60201 - 3135
>__/_____| mesg y; cat /core | write root &; mesg n
Anyone over the age of, oh, say 28, 32, 36, posting here?


I don't _think_ so.
-- 
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Editorial Design/Systems
RMN/400 W. Colfax Ave. Denver, CO 80204 303 892-2633 wk.; 303 233-9231 hm.
From: bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (BILLY JOE BISSETTE)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: Thoughtful insight
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:20:15 GMT
Reply-To: bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (BILLY JOE BISSETTE)
Organization: Raise A Great Old One Foundation
Originator: bjbisset@c00032-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu


  You would feel that the pain was inside you.  Of course, if you just collapse
there watching them burn, your mind might realize that the pain is originating
outside your body and may even the suspected point of origin of said pain.
  Of course, you can try it yourself, just be sure to post the results.
-- 
----------bill the insane cultist, bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu
Please make a donation to the "Raise a Great Old One" Foundation.
Everyone chant with me:  Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
                         Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
From: umage@mcl.ucsb.edu (Moralie)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: Behold, I am a Moria freak!
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:54:32 GMT

.. I agree.
 
	it is plain that one cannot claim to be free of a thing if one
spends one's time and one's girlfriend in hatred of the thing.
 
	Take for example the gothic band Christian Death.
 
They make wonderful music, but when they limit themselves to songs about the
wretched stupidity etc.. in christiandom, well they Limit Themselves!
 
As ifar as i care, once you decide a thing is pointless and stupid, ignore
it unless it threatens you.  simple and easy.

--
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Happy thought
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:26:53 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Just wanted to share this happy thought with you. I know what I want to
be when I graduate! Yum! And remember, there's over a million of these
every year...

--The Antichrist

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Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu ( )
Subject: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:14:23 GMT

  "It was easy to shrug off an aborted pregnancy as nothing more than
   a sack of blood and globs of tissue--as many pro-choice activists
   did--if one never saw fetal remains, or products of conception (POC),
   as they were known in medical circles.  But the nurses, medical
   assistants, and doctors who worked inside procedure rooms knew
   that while an eight-week POC was indeed a sack of blood and
   globs of tissue, an eleven-week POC harbored tiny arms and legs
   and feet with toes.  At twelve weeks, those tiny hands had tiny
   nails.  Although the fetal head was too small at that stage to
   withstand the evacuation machine's suction, pieces of face--a nose
   and a mouth, or a black eye (all fetal eyes are black in the
   first trimester) the size of a pea--were sometimes found in
   the aftermath.

   Later abortions spawned even more gruesome fetal remains.  Between
   the twelfth and the sixteenth week, early in the second trimester,
   the fetus almost doubled in length as its body caught up to its
   large head, and it filled out to the point where it looked like
   a human baby for the first time.  Since the fetal skull was 
   still soft, the head did not come out whole during the evacuation,
   but the legs and arms and rib cage made it through intact.  The
   hand of a second trimester fetus, as a Preterm doctor described
   it, seemed big enough to shake.

   Most of Preterm's abortion staff didn't volunteer to work ``seconds''.
   Late first trimester POCs were hard enough.  The counselor/medical
   assistants (CMAs) met regularly to discuss their feelings about
   their work, and often the discussion focused on the POC.  Inside
   a procedure room, facing the contents of the uterus, there was
   no denying what abortion was." 

   Sue Hertz, _Caught in the Crossfire: A Year on Abortion's Front Line_,
   Prentice Hall Press, 1991, pg. 104.
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: dante
From: bagnasco@mvx36.csata.it
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:30:50 +0100
Reply-To: bagnasco@mvx36.csata.it
Organization: TECNOPOLIS CSATA, Bari, Italy

THE EXACT WAY TO READ IS THE FIRST: "ABANDON ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER HEREIn article <1992Nov17.022802.13131@ncsu.edu>, bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (BILLY JOE BISSETTE) writes:
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>  Source is "The Divine Comedy," from the "Inferno" part.  As for whether it is
>"abandon all hope, ye who enter here." or "abandon hope, all ye who enter here."
>It's neither, Dante didn't write in English, he wrote in Italian(me thinks).
>Therefore, the correct quote would be in Italian.  It could probably be
>translated as either of the two versions you mentioned.  You could always find
>a Lit book(I'm sure an English teacher can find you one with that part of
>Dante's work (suggesting that someone should ask an english teacher, how evil
>can you get)).
>-- 
>----------bill the insane cultist, bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu
>Please make a donation to the "Raise a Great Old One" Foundation.
>Everyone chant with me:  Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
>                         Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!




SS
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: dante
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 20 Nov 1992 03:32:58 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
 <1992Nov18.195106.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>,<1992Nov19.195023.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
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In article <1992Nov19.195023.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
> Well, I gotta
>question. Is it true that when you cut someone's head off, their brain is
>still alive for a brief time? I heard that they could even look around with
>their eyes, but this seems too far out. I haven't found a decent chopping
>instrument yet....
>
>--The Antichrist

Well you could try experimenting with a chicken....

--
Red

In the STATES they've set up a deprogramming centre where you can take
your derranged punk child or metal kid. And how you deal with it when
they start getting posters or acting strange. If you start listening
to this music they've got centres where they take you to get deprogrammed.
That'll happen in New Zealand you know.

Brett (skinhead) Toxic Avengers, New Plymouth.
From Bill Paynes book - Staunch



Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: mroberts@ptdcs2.intel.com (Mark Roberts ~)
Subject: Re: umma guuma
Organization: Intel Corporation -- Aloha, Oregon
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:29:37 GMT

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Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush)
Subject: Re: Thoughtful insight
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:20:04 GMT

Ten feet.  Definitely.

_________
_/__\_._| christopher s. kush / birdman@nwu.edu / (708) 467 2067
_\@_|_._| computer systems / programming, industrial research laboratory
___/____| 1801 maple avenue, evanston, illinois 60201 - 3135
__/_____| mesg y; cat /core | write root &; mesg n
From: cak10@po.CWRU.Edu (Corinne A. Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: Behold, I am a Moria freak!
Date: 19 Nov 1992 03:08:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cak10@po.CWRU.Edu (...c...)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, umage@mcl.ucsb.edu (Moralie) says:

>[rhetoric]
> 
>As ifar as i care, once you decide a thing is pointless and stupid, ignore
>it unless it threatens you.  simple and easy.

does the phrase 'Nazi Germany' mean anything to you?

there is a quote that i can't quite
seem to remember verbatim, but it is about
how 'they' (the s.s.?) would come for various groups of people,
and author didn't speak out in protest. 
when 'they' came for him, there was nobody 
left to speak out for him. 

                                                     .c.




-- 
cori a kelly
"You all think i'm mad.  I'm just a sane man fighting for his soul."
				 Renfield(as played by Tom Waits in Dracula)
 
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Thoughtful insight
Summary: More like thoughtless blat.
Organization: Those guys on S. Main
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:50:56 GMT

In article <pershing.722488829@teal> pershing@teal.csn.org (Paul Pershing) writes:
>birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush) writes:
>
>>Ten feet.  Definitely.
>
>>_________
>>_/__\_._| christopher s. kush / birdman@nwu.edu / (708) 467 2067
>>_\@_|_._| computer systems / programming, industrial research laboratory
>>___/____| 1801 maple avenue, evanston, illinois 60201 - 3135
>>__/_____| mesg y; cat /core | write root &; mesg n
>Anyone over the age of, oh, say 28, 32, 36, posting here?
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>I don't _think_ so.

Think what you want -- it won't change the fact that there *are* some older
than that here.  Me, for example.

--PLH, headed for 38, and still having fun

--
From: Michael Kwun <kwun@umich.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
Subject: Re: Desempowerment by permanent staff
Date: 23 Nov 1992 20:43:24 GMT
Organization: Just me and my duo 210. Heh.
Distribution: world
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In article <j0H=tz#@engin.umich.edu> Kenneth James Clark,
blagdon@engin.umich.edu writes:
>I'd love to have some power for a change.  Frankly, I'd have to stick
>around for at least two years and I'm not going to go through the 
>aggravation.  Besides, the above mentionned Maintenance Coordinator has

Gee, really?  I dunno... I was a house officer after four months in the
ICC, and I was on
the board after eight... and I was on the coordinating committee after
sixteen.  And gee,
the most outspoken member (and one of the most influential) of the first
board committee
I chaired (Development, Jan-Apr 1990) was, I think, in his first year
with the ICC.  He
went on to chair the committee the next year.  The education chair during
my first year on
the board had been in the ICC for four months when he joined the
coordinating committee.
There were also a few board members who were brand new members.  

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