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From: deff@access.digex.com (Michael P. Deffendall)
Subject: Re: dead languages
Keywords: french, Picard, kidnap
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:38:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.070154.1494974@nntp.uoregon.edu> eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:
>In article <183ajrINN852@agate.berkeley.edu> jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob) writes:
>>My memory on this is vague, but does anyone remember an episode
>>where a 20th century language was used that nobody knew, and the
>>Data or someone remarked that it was an old language that died
>>out in the 21st century or so.  It was something common like
>>German or Spanish.  What language was it and what episode?
>
>The language was French, and Data's remark was made to Picard (Riker told
>him to drop it).  As I recall it was the episode where Yar was kidnapped
>and had to fight another woman.  Can't remember the name of the show.


The episode was Code of Honor.

Deff

deff@digex.com

#include std.disclaimer
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Correct me if im wrong...
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:40:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep14.204043.1612
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Hmmm, Well, technically, the Klingon ships (the popular ones) are called 
Klingon Bird of Prey  (or Birds of Prey), and the new (TNG) Romulan ships
are Warbirds (the D'Darix Class --(sp?)--).

In TOS, the Romulans did have a Bird of Prey, but apparently scrapped them
for the larger, more intimidating ships....

Dave
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: gbarton@sonja3.acc.stolaf.edu (Gregory R Barton)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG & homosexuality
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN  USA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:31:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.211103@IASTATE.EDU> jkness@IASTATE.EDU (Joel K Ness) writes:
>
>Let's put this thread in *.*.homo or something.  It's a waste of bandwidth.
>
>Anyway to the last post, I'm offended by that behavior and DON'T want to see
>it.

Sir, I am offended by your comment, so get the f*ck off this group!

>
>--
>******************************************************************************
>Joel K. Ness
>Aerospace Engineering and Engineering Mechanics Dept.
>2064 Black Engineering
>Iowa State University                   "But captain, I can't change the 
>Ames, Iowa  50010                        laws of physics"--Montgomery Scott
>******************************************************************************

Do I need to smilie?

___________________________________________________________________
I don't need a reason to live. I need an irreason. 
GreG		gbarton@acc.stolaf.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu (Just another theatre geek.....)
Subject: Re: Rosalind Chao (Keiko O'Brien) on Murphy Brown?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:54:13 GMT

In article <BuC4Eq.Mp4@scd.hp.com> hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa) writes:
>In article <landrews.03q9@outb.wimsey.bc.ca> landrews@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Luke Andrews) writes:
>| I hadn't seen that episode until yesterday (Monday the 7th), but it did look like Rosalind Chao. And no, I didn't see the credits either.
>I believe the woman was the same woman who played Mac's wife from Night
>Court. Not the same woman who plays Kayko. Correct?...

	Gee....didn't think so....but then all us Oriental types look
alike, right?

	(Geez. Ros and Denise look NOTHING alike.... I think the two of 'em
will be  a might tiffed.......)


-- 
Roger Tang gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu
Executive Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW;
	The definition of having balls is a non-singer who goes karaoke singing 
with the cast of a musical revue.
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From: dowling@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Stephen Dowling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Tidbits...
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:25:01 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu writes:
[point 1 omitted]
>        2)  This deal about Riker in the Holodeck -- my thought is this:
>                I don't see why this guy has to go to the holodeck:  not
>                only does he have an "alien on every planet,"  but, might I
>                add, he has also slept with every senior bridge officer on
>                OF the Enterprise--Deanna (obviously), Ensign Ro ("Conundrum)
>                and Dr. Crusher ("The Host"--when Riker volunteered to host
>                the parasite that Beverly fell in love with).

I guess Dr. Pulaski just wasn't his type.
 
steve dowling
dowling@pnet51.orb.mn.org
From: batman@apple.apple.com (Ken Laws)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: What would you do with the power of the Q ?
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:53:09 GMT
Organization: Apple

What would I do with the powers of Q?

Well, I would use my powers to travel and ensure world peace.
And, I would cure every sick puppy I ever ran into, and, I would
pass that big physics test *te-he*. Oh, gee, and, uh, I would
make sure that all the children of the world had real good
teddy bears, and, uh, oh yeah! And every Miss America from
now on would be from my home state!

Someone call Bert Parks (or whomever)! I think this would
be a GREAT question at this year's pageant!

Speaking only for myself,

Ken.
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Limited edition Trek print a whooping $395!
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:25:26 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

I received a postcard in the mail informing me of a limited edition
(2500 copies) Trek poster (28" X 32") by Michael David Ward, entitled
"Second star to the right...and straight on till the morning" from
ST6, and all they want is $395, unframed! Add $250 for matte & framing!

In case anyone's a die-hard fan who must have this, call (800) 826-1318.


-- 
Julie Bixby                        Internet: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu
Engage Romulan .sig cloaking device....
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Was TOS really that bad? (Re: TOS actors)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:04:29 GMT

In article <rawdon.716064323@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <1992Sep8.202251.4107@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>>In article <rawdon.715903556@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>>[on Picard's character...]

>>			"The Drumhead" is another fine example of a fully
>>developed character.
>
>To echo your phrase:  Please.  This is a perfect example of Picard-the-
>walking-exposition-device.  He spends most of his time making speeches about
>morality and freedom and judgment.  "This is wrong because x" and "We don't
>do things that way", etc.

Does this remind you of a certain TOS captain?  This kind of verbal
defense of ST morality is a hallmark (or should I say "tm") of the show.
How many times did Kirk go on about morality and freedom?
Need I conjure up images of the speech from The Omega Glory?



>>			If you don't like any of these as examples, how
>>about "The Perfect Mate"?
>
>This episode was drek; one of the worst of the season.  How *about* "The
>Perfect Mate"?

Drek?  Hmmph.  Not the episode I saw.  I saw the stiff leader in Picard
break down against the feelings that Kamala inspired in him.  I
considered that powerful.




-- 
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Gary L. Schroeder  		|  
schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov         |             Boo. 
Brookhaven National Laboratory  |
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Peter Gabriel and/or Anne Lennox in Season 6???
Date: 10 Sep 1992 23:47:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  A friend of mine was watching the EmptyV Music Awards last night
and said he thought he heard someone say something about either Peter
Gabriel or Anne Lennox being a future guest star on an upcoming 
episode of ST:TNG. Did he hear right, or was he breathing fumes from
a toxic waste facility?  I imagined the latter, since I figured you
guys would be right on top of this kind of information...  ;)

  Jeff

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| <atavachron@morekypr.morehead-st.edu> |  episode _All Our Yesterdays_ |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: noel@umbc2.umbc.edu
Subject: A Silly Top 10 List
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:06:24 GMT

	Sorry for missing last week--my college was installing a new computer 
system in a new building and the news connection was down all of last week.
	For those of you people new to this newsgroup, I am Noel Tominack from 
the University of Maryland Baltimore County.  I am continuing the tradition of 
posting a Silly Top 10 list every Monday, an idea started by Dave Kimball 
somewhere in New Hampshire (and who I hope will take it over again).  I hope 
you all like them.
	So from the home office in Arbutus Maryland, we bring you

TOP 10 MYSTERIES OF STAR TREK

10.  Why are Geordi's best freinds and android and a Borg?

9.  How come after 73 episodes of TOS, 6 movies and 126 episodes of TNG--
    we have yet to see a bathroom or somone using it?

8.  Whatever happened to all those planets Kirk visited where he violated
    the prime directive?

7.  Why would any TOS character want to appear in a TNG episode with the 
    title "Relics"?

6.  How come the cast of TNG sued to stop blooper reels but not "Cost of 
    Living"?

5.  Why does the Enterprise have a French Captian with an English accent?

4.  Who was Leonard Nimoy buying the 5 Shuttlecraft ornaments for anyway?

3.  How come Starfleet can make something sophisticated as the Enterprise
    yet still not get Picard's uniform to fit right?

2.  Why are the Romulains still putting up with Sela?

and the number one Mystery of Star Trek

1.  If they really do read the newsgroups, what do they think of my lists?

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: vision@netcom.com (Pat Carson)
Subject: Romulan Ale...
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:25:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


I'm probably asking for it for posting this, but I gotta find out..
  
There was an alcoholic drink I heard of at SiliCon called "Romulan Ale" after the potable shown in STIV.  I believe it had Blue Curaciao and Bacardi 151 Rum in it... 
 
Does anyone here know the exact recipie for this drink? If so, please *E-Mail*
it to me...
 
I thank you, in advance...

-- 
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  And though I once  \       vision@netcom.com       /   They Pale Before
     Preferred a     /       vis@darkside.com        \     The monolith
    Human Being's    \     pat@szebra.saigon.com     /     That  towers
       Company       /  bbs.vision@tsoft.sf-bay.org  \       Over  Me
*------>"Pandemonium doesn't reign here... It pours!" - Babs Bunny<------*
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dwj@hpcndm.CND.HP.COM (Dave Jerzycki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Actors' Other Roles [1/1]
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:45:44 GMT
Organization: HP Network and System Management Division



This posted for a friend:

> Denise Crosby
> -----------------
> Television:  Star Trek: The Next Generation.
> Pictures:    (None Known).
48 Hours. (A hooker)

>> Red Shoe Diaries...
>> You Have The Right To Remain Silent.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: vincent@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG : Vendetta... re-run or new episode?
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:28:43 EDT

The "episode" being referred to here is actually the second ST-TNG
"giant novel" (high-class paperback), written by Peter David in 1990 
or thereabouts.  The plot involved an entity of Guinan's race using
a vehicle similar to the TOS "Doomsday Machine" to enter Borg space in
order to destroy that race.
A sub-plot of the novel involved the crew "capturing" (actually, finding
and restoring to relative health) a human female who had been Borg-ed.
Geordi attempted to restore this Borg's original memory, with somewhat
fatal results.
This sub-plot, incidentally, bears only superficial resemblance to the
circumstances of the Season 5 TNG episode I, Borg.
======================================================================
                            VICTOR WONG
                     vincent@micor.ocunix.on.ca
----------------------------------------------------------------------
            "Closed minds lead short lives."--Anonymous
======================================================================

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Peter Gabriel and/or Anne Lennox in Season 6???
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:07:07 GMT

In article <18omrdINNa4m@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston) writes:
>
>  A friend of mine was watching the EmptyV Music Awards last night
>and said he thought he heard someone say something about either Peter
>Gabriel or Anne Lennox being a future guest star on an upcoming 
>episode of ST:TNG. Did he hear right, or was he breathing fumes from
>a toxic waste facility?  I imagined the latter, since I figured you
>guys would be right on top of this kind of information...  ;)
>
>  Jeff
>
>-- 
This was a joke told by Dana Carvey (host of the show) which I don't
think was serious.  Funny though.  He said they'd be playing Ferengi
lovers later this season in an episode of ST:TNG.


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jcbarthe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (John C. Barthelmes)
Subject: Re: STNG sucks!!!
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 12:50:31 EDT

In article <1992Sep11.104021.23765@newshost.unh.edu> ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace) writes:
>...... stuff vaporized.....
>in TOS ;-)).  Kirk was as much of a peaceful man as Picard is, but the
>main difference between them seems to be that Kirk makes his own decisions
>about what to do, whereas Picard constantly seems at a loss for what to
>do, and always resorts to asking his crew (or, surrendering; he's got that
>one down ;-)).                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^                
 
Though I am a hard core fan of both TOS and TNG, I would like to point
out that Kirk has had his own share of surrender experience...
... the last movie (The Undiscovered Country) being a case in point.
(Im not saying Picard and Kirk are wimpozoids for surrendering. It is
sometimes the best thing to do in certain situations, like the last
movie...)
-- 
|* John C. Barthelmes                | The meaning of life is       *|
|* jcbarthe@rodan.acs.syr.edu        |  to be happy...              *|
|* jcbarthe@syredu.bitnet            |  try not to hurt people...   *|
|* barthelm@jane.cs.fredonia.edu     |  and hope you fall in love!  *|
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: frisinv@alleg.edu
Subject: Re: Navy in Star Trek
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:47:59 GMT

In article <22272@galaxy.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)  
writes:
> Why is it that Star Trek is part of the navy?  Did the army disappear?
> Do battle ships carry Marine Corps soldiers?
> It makes sense that the federation should be a part of the navy since  
they
> call their vessels ships.  But is the navy really going to rule outer
> space?
> 
> --
> "I drank what?" -- Socrates
> 
> judson@watserv.ucr.edu

I don't remember the episode (I think it was TOS) but the captain once  
told a person from the 20th century that it is a combined force.
-----
Vince
From: rezabek1037@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: !! ATTN: Modl Unitd Fedtn Planets !!
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:30:27 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Well, my sysop here is hesitant to let me set up a mail.service at this node...
a lot of traffic already exists on another mailservice here, apparently. HE
suggested setting up a bona fide NEWS.GROUP... when i went over to
news.newusers or whatever it was, the process seemed exceedingly tedious and
drawn out... "last call for alcohol;" does ANYONE out there have a sysop who
wouldn't mind setting up a mail.service. if NOT, this thing will mayhap go on
ice for awhile while i figure out whether or not i have the will to keep
posting "don't give up" messages for 45 days waiting for votes and
registrations and this's and that's for a news.group. Hey, look. I'm just a
puny Model U.N. guy. I'm no SuperCompMan. Hhhhhhh. Well, i'll wait for
responses, and re-read the Guidelines... maybe pray a bit... :) 

more to come.

rez. Secretary General of the 1st Plenary Model United Federation of Planets
From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The Eternal Flame(war) (was Re: STNG sucks!!!)
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:47:26 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <1992Sep10.120118.2529@newshost.unh.edu> ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace) writes:
>In article <w6sn21c@lynx.unm.edu> quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep9.110330.10211@newshost.unh.edu> ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace) writes:
>>>	I return to the Net after a long summer and what do I find?  Your
>>>all STILL having TOS vs. TNG flamewars...  Ah, it's good to be back... ;-)
>>
>>Actually, this one started just a few days back.  Guess somebody was
>>warming things up for your return.  Welcome back. ;-)
>>
>
>	THIS one may have started just a few days back, but when did the
>one before that end? ;-)  Unless r.a.s.* has changed radically, I'm sure
>that there definitely were several such flamewars over the summer (especially
>if you and Michael were still around ;-)).

Actually, both Micheal and I were laying low this summer.  My
recollection of the past several months was mostly much bitching about
season 5 (especially as each rerun made its way across the airwaves),
some speculation on DS9, and the usual brouhaha over Treknology.  (Oh
yeah, occasional speculation about TA2. ;-)

We haven't had a 'real' TNG vs. TOS disc^H^H^H^Hflamewar since May.  ;-)

>  And, in fact, I would bet my
>life that such flamewars will exist as long as there is a Net to post them
>to.  And, soon, it will be not just TOS vs. TNG, but TNG vs. DS9 and TOS vs.
>DS9, as well...  Then, perhaps we'll have TOS movies vs. TNG movies... Etc...

I never bet on a sure thing. ;-)

>We'll have enough heat produced by these flamewars to meet the world's
>energy needs for thousands of years to come... ;-)

Good luck trying to impose order on all that entropy. ;-)

>||  Robert A. Seace  ||  Senior at UNH  ||  E-mail: ras@kepler.unh.edu  ||
>||    AKA: Agrajag   ||     CS major    ||  or, maybe: ras@nic.unh.edu  ||

-- 
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk  (Known to some as Taki Kogoma)  quirk@pioneer.unm.edu
 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:15:29 EDT
From: <PAB7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Data's cat

Which episode is it where Data explains the etymology of his cat? I'm pretty
familiar with all of them, and I've never seen it.  I'm avid to do so, but is
it maybe in one of the books?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: dead languages (episode name)
From: jwebb@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:47:39 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <1992Sep4.070154.14974@nntp.uoregon.edu>, eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:
> In article <183ajrINN852@agate.berkeley.edu> jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob) writes:
>>My memory on this is vague, but does anyone remember an episode
>>where a 20th century language was used that nobody knew, and the
>>Data or someone remarked that it was an old language that died
>>out in the 21st century or so.  It was something common like
>>German or Spanish.  What language was it and what episode?
> 
> The language was French, and Data's remark was made to Picard (Riker told
> him to drop it).  As I recall it was the episode where Yar was kidnapped
> and had to fight another woman.  Can't remember the name of the show.


CODE OF HONOR is the episode name
(sorry, I got annoyed at reading this strain and not seeing the title!)
-- 


Jeffery D. Webb

JWEBB@OREAD.CC.UKANS.EDU
University Of Kansas


Do you choose what I choose?  More alternatives
Energy derives from both the plus and negative
	--Metallica

Anytime that the nine wanna leave, I got a .38 hidden up the sleave,
And it's ready to go to war, 'cause that's what it's here for
It took down a million niggaz and'll shoot one more.
And that's a million and one that couldn't hand with the appetite
Cause they wasn't rappin right
So I had to destroy, whoever was standing in my prescense
And fucking with the escense:  Appetite For Desruction.
	--N.W.A
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Subject: Re: Q and Guinan(sp?)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 08:21:52 EDT

In article <1992Sep4.204325.13625@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
 
>All we know for sure is that they were both somehow involved with
>Picard's involvement in Jack Crusher's death.  It's also believed that
>they hold the top secret document that chronicles Picard's "accident" at
>the Academy.
 
Where was this stated?  I've seen most of the episodes and read most of the
books, but I've never seen this particular speculation before.
 
 
 
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From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Subject: Re: Mutiny on the Holodeck
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 00:40:24 EDT

In article <jverho80.715918866@ursa>
jverho80@ursa.calvin.edu (Jeff Verhoef) writes:
 
>I really haven't thought of yet, they just do).  They reconstruct a perfect
>replica of the bridge and begin war exercises.  Given the fact that the
>holodeck replicates matter, and in theory can replicate actual
>instrumentation that works (I'm using the events in "A Matter of Perspective"
>as a reference), would it be possible for a mutinous crewmember to use
>the bridge on the holodeck to take over the ship?
 
Remember the second season episode, "Elementary, Dear Data"?  Professor
Moriarity shook up the ship pretty badly from the holodeck, and he was
just using a lever-like apparatus.  I think a person with a fully simulated
bridge should be able to kick some butt.
 
 
 
 
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