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From: mcollins@db (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: FLEX/IP Problem Details
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:58:05 GMT

keith@novell.com (Keith Brown) writes:
: In article <1992Nov9.102951.22@priort.uucp> giles@priort.uucp writes:
: >
: >Now, I can send any size file (ASCII) to constellation and it will come 
: >out on the Sun's terminal. I can send a file <2K to TESTING on Novell and 
: >it comes back to constellation. If a file >2K is sent to TESTING, then the 
: >following error appears in the FLEXCON audit log: 
: > 
: >   PLPD-Error: plpd: Internal Error: LPD Protocol Error :constellation: : :E-1
: 
: Well, there is something fundamentally wrong with the configuration you
: described here. In your post you described a NetWare -> UNIX print
: configuration which, incidentally, looked just fine. You are now
: presenting us with an error that is coming from a UNIX -> NetWare print
: gateway component that has nothing to do with the aforementioned
: NetWare -> UNIX software and configuration.

Keith,

That was my suggestion. I wanted to see if we could eliminate the HPIIIsi
printer from the loop. I suggested he setup the gateway so he could wip
the print job back to the unix host and a dummy printer.

I believe that he stated this did not help his situation.

: 
: If you like, you can unload PLPD.NLM (from whence your error hails),
: FILTER.NLM and FLTRLIB.NLM which comprise the UNIX -> NetWare print
: gateway completely.  The NetWare -> UNIX print gateway component (towit
: LPR_PSRV.NLM and LPR_GWY.NLM) will keep functioning.
: 
: Keith
: -
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: Novell San Jose Development Center                Fax:   (408) 473 8990
: 2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131       Net:   keith@sjf.novell.COM

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: lowell@techbook.com (Lowell Brunson)
Subject: how not to execute End Of Job on exit of program
Keywords: programming netware end of job
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:31:04 GMT

I am writting a metering program and want to leave a semaphore in
use after I exit my program.  Unfortunatly, whenever I execute 
dos int 21 4c call the novell End of Job function is also called
and the semaphore is closed... a nice touch if that is what you want.

Can anyone give me a hint as to how to keep this from happening?

The netware function Set End Of Job has no effect in this case.

Thanks for your help.  Lowell

lowell@techbook.com

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From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Novell vs. UNIX
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:37:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The College On The Other Side Of Route One

My college has several hundred MS-DOS PCs and about 100 Macs. There are
about 4 Novell networks of about 20 PCs each, but most PCs are
standalone. Some of the Macs are "Apple'd" together.

We are now considering a longer view toward a more comprehensive
networking policy, which means eventual campus-wide networking of at
least all the PCs, perhaps tying in a second campus some 10 miles away,
and eventually tying to the Internet.

The first question is that of Novell network for the PCs vs. using a
UNIX TCP/IP network, both on 10BaseT.

Has anyone investigated these (or other) choices who would be willing to
share their findings and opinions and experiences?

Thanks,
Pete
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From: jonv@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (Jon Vestal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Help With Apple Print Server
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:21:01 GMT
Organization: Pitzer College

Hi,

I am having a strange problem with our appletalk print server.  We our 
running novell 3.11 and NW4MAC 3.011.  The following is our ATPS

"ghandi:PIT_BERNARD" -O PIT_LASER
"pit_faculty:PIT_BERNARD" -0 PITFAC_LW
"joyce:PIT_BERNARD" -O BERNARD_IMAG -t ImageWriter
"psych_only:PIT_BERNARD" -O BERNARD_IMAG -t -wf ImageWriter
"dickens:PIT_BERNARD" -O BERNARD_IMAG -t -wf ImageWriter

The problem is as follows, everything will work fine for a while and then 
only one of the printers will be accepting jobs from the queue.  You can 
still print to the other printers by selecting the directly from the chooser 
but you can't get to them through the queue.  To fix this problem it is 
neccessary to clear the queue, turn down all printers and restart ATPS.  If 
anyone has had a similiar experience or has any ideas on this one I would be 
greatly aprecciated for your input.  Thanks.

Jon Vestal
Systems Technician
Pitzer College

jonv@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu
jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu
From: gt7865a@prism.gatech.EDU (Comer,Matthew Brian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NW4MAC, ATPS, and PageMaker 4.1
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:40:03 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Can someone point me to directions for setting up print spooling
for PageMaker 4.1 docs? PageMaker docs printed to standard spools 
do not print. Can someone help me?



-- 
I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind,
Got my papers and I was free...            -Indigo Girls

Matt Comer     gt7865a@hydra.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jharvey@csulx.weber.edu (Just me)
Subject: TCP/IP IP Tunneling
Organization: Weber State University, Ogden Utah
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:17:03 GMT

Dear readers,



I am directing this question to the TCP/IP people for Novell

readers.  I would like to know how much increased performace

you have experienced while using IP tunneling on Netware 3.11.

We are running Novell Synchronous RS232+ Adapter in two Netware 

file servers connected via a 56k line.  Would it be more effective 

to increase IPX packet size or run IP tunneling.



Thanks,



Justin Harvey

TCP/IP Project Coordinator

City & Borough of Juneau

jharvey@csulx.weber.edu
From: giles@priort.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: FLEX/IP Problem Details
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:29:50 GMT
Organization: Prior Data Sciences Ltd., Mississauga, Ont., Canada

Okay, here's a summary of what's going on:

We have a Novell file server, a couple of dozen PC's, a few Sun Sparc
stations (Sun OS 4.1.2), a microVax II, and an HP Laserjet IIISi (with
network adaptor) all on the same Ethernet backbone (10BaseT). The people
working on the Suns had this silly idea that they should be able to print
to the laserjet without have to print to a file first and then FTP it
across to a PC where they could then print it out. So, I decided to get
FLEX/IP and install it on the file server as per instructions, and then
modified the printcap files on the Suns (where, yes, mx is set to 0).
Great, it worked - untill they tried send a file over 2K bytes long. 

I set up a dummy print queue on the Sun as per your instructions as

terminal | testing FLEX-IP printing :\
	:lp=/dev/ttyp8:sd=/var/spool/terminal:

On the Novell side, I set up a queue TESTING as follows:

	Name:			testing FLEX-IP printing
	Type:			Remote Other/Unknown
	Use Interrupts:		YES
	IRQ:			7
	Buffer Size in K:	3

Flexcon is set up as follows
	Printer Number:		0
	Printer Name:		testing FLEX-IP printing
	UNIX Host Name:		constellation
	UNIX Printer Name:	terminal
	Netware Queues:		TESTING

The Print filter and Device Configuration for TESTING : no print filter, 
default form type, and no Print Device or Printer Mode defined.

Now, I can send any size file (ASCII) to constellation and it will come 
out on the Sun's terminal. I can send a file <2K to TESTING on Novell and 
it comes back to constellation. If a file >2K is sent to TESTING, then the 
following error appears in the FLEXCON audit log: 
 
   PLPD-Error: plpd: Internal Error: LPD Protocol Error :constellation: : :E-1


(This same error occured when I tried printing to the HP IIISi, which acts as
its own print server, or to one the the HP Series II's which are set up as 
remote printers going through PSERVER.NLM.)

Lastly, the first part of autoexec.ncf is 

	IPX INTERNAL NET 2
	LOAD WDPLUSSV port=300 frame=ETHERNET_802.3 name=IPXLAN
	BIND IPX TO IPXLAN net=3
	LOAD WDPLUSSV port=300 frame=ETHERNET_II name=TCPLAN
	LOAD TCPIP
	BIND IPX TO TCPLAN ADDR=130.0.0.1 MASK=0xff.0xff.0x0.0x0
		o
		o
		o
	FLXSTART.NCF


Dan Giles			PRIOR Data Sciences, Toronto
dciem!priort!giles		(416) 670-1225

He's dead, Jim.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: peterh@netcom.com (Peter John Harrison)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP or SPX/IPX ???
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:58:33 GMT

ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes:

>I heard that Novell Netware now works with both protocols, TCP/IP and
>SPX/IPX. Are these different products or can you use both protocols
>at the same time ?

>Which protocol is recommended ? ( At some later stage we might want to
>use Oracle for Novell and access the database from Unix clients )

NetWare 3.11 can route IP packets from one subnet to another and supports
ARP and RIP, but that's about it.  File server requests are still handled 
by IPX.
============================================================================
Peter John Harrison           1522 Day Avenue, #A, San Mateo, CA  94403  USA
peterh@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: keith@novell.com (Keith Brown)
Subject: Re: symbolic and hard links with Netware NFS, how?
Organization: Novell, Inc. San Jose, California
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:01:56 GMT

In article <case.51.721449567@ucs.sdsu.edu> case@ucs.sdsu.edu (Steve Case) writes:
>
>Nobody knows the answer to this? 

Yes, yes. We know the answer to this.

>Using LN from an NFS mount works fine, but 

Right. NetWare NFS supports both symbolic and hard links within the NFS
name space of the NetWare file system.

>I'm surprised there is not a way to do this with FILER or some other Novell 
>utility.

DOS does not support the concept of "links".  You can't create multiple
directory entries referencing the same file data in DOS land. NFS hard
links within the NFS name space of the NetWare file system are
"invisible" within the DOS name space. Symbolic links within the NFS
name space are shown on the DOS side to be exactly what they are, that
is, files containing the full path specification of the file/directory
to which they are a link. It is only the UNIX "link file" attribute
that causes the UNIX OS to interpret symbolic link files specially and "follow"
the path specification contained within the link file transparently to
the application using the system call on the file (usually open(2)). This
attribute does not exist in the DOS universe.

What could we do? Well, we could give you some more DOS tools for
manipulating and/or viewing the NFS name space on a file server. NDIR
already has some in the form of the "/long" flag. FILER also has a few
multi-namespace smarts. However, these smarts don't include mechanisms
for interpreting the UNIX hard and symbolic link files today.

Keith
-
Keith Brown                                       Phone: (408) 473 8308
Novell San Jose Development Center                Fax:   (408) 473 8990
2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131       Net:   keith@sjf.novell.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: cearley_k@wizard.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: lpr flags from FLEX/IP
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:04:11 MST

In article <+b#@byu.edu>, sson@bones.caedm.byu.edu (Stacey Son) writes:

Thanks Stacey, that should work for us as well. Fortunately we have
the source code for LPD and can recompile hardcoding these flags. To
bad it has to be like that...

		-Kent
Xref: sparky comp.sys.novell:9198 bit.listserv.novell:16939
From: green@wharton.upenn.edu (SCOTT GREEN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Mylex 32bit EISA
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:20:27 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Organization: Wharton ATS

Greetings!

(apologies for what's probably a repeat question)
Will someone point me toward a site that has an up-to-date driver for this 
card?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kev@sol.acs.unt.edu (Kevin W. Mullet)
Subject: Re: NETWIRE Access
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:28:29 GMT

gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.163615.1@dhvx20.csudh.edu> csc45101_08@dhvx20.csudh.edu writes:
>>I would like to access the NETWIRE FORUM / NOVB. Can anyone tell me how can I
>>do this?  I am working from a VAX 4000 System. 
>Buy a Compuserve account, a modem, and a terminal emulator that will run on
>your VAX. 
>You can't do this via the net, if that's what you're asking.
>-- 
>Gary Heston    SCI Systems, Inc.  gary@sci34hub.sci.com   site admin
>The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
>"...I looked out my window, and saw Kyle Pettys' car upside down, then I
>thought 'One of us is in real trouble'." Davey Allison, re: a 150MPH crash 

I love it when someone says "You can't do this on the net".  Since when can you 
prove a negative?


There are at least two ways to access Compuserve through the Internet, provided you
already have a Compuserve userid.  The former chokes on file transfers, for 
some reason.  I think it's the data switch Merit is using, perhaps.  The latter seems 
to work fine for Kermit file transfers.  Both are fine for using the built-in Compuserve
menu interface.  I have neither tried nor succeeded to get either to work with Compuserve
Information Manager, although I suspect that using with with something like INT14 or
tnglass would work.

1: telnet to hermes.merit.edu and enter "compuserve" at the "Which Host?" prompt.
   % telnet hermes.merit.edu
   Trying 35.1.48.160 ...
   Connected to hermes.merit.edu.
   Escape character is '^]'.
   %Merit:Hermes (HME2AA:TN01:VT100:EDIT=MTS)
   Which Host?compuserve
   %TN01:HME2AA-DTCA:TE00 compus
   %Call connected
   User ID:     <-------------- Compuserve login prompt.

2: telnet to hopey.telcom.arizona.edu and login as TO_CSERVE
   (make sure your terminal emulator is using 7-bit word-length)

   telnet hopey.telcom.arizona.edu
   Trying 128.196.128.234 ... 
   Connected to hopey.telcom.arizona.edu.
   Escape character is '^]'.
   TELCOM - the UofA CCIT Telecommunications VAXcluster
   Username: TO_CSERVE
   %PAD-I-COM, call connected to remote DTE
   Host Name:  compuserve

Hope this helps.

-Kevin Mullet
 University of North Texas
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Shahid Sheikh <shahid.sheikh@oit.gatech.edu>
Subject: Slip driver for IP Tunnel LAN WorkPlace client
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A71EF187D0010665@mashie.gatech.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 5 Nov 92 20:43:03 GMT
Organization: Network Services; Georgia Tech
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:43:07 GMT

Hi folks:
		Is there a slip driver available for DOS IP Tunnel so 
that I can get to the Netware server from a remote workstation 
through a slip line?

		Any info would be greatly appreciated.
		
--		
Shahid Sheikh
Network Services / Georgia Institute of Technology.
shahid@oit.gatech.edu
From: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: POP or IMAP for LAN Workplace?
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:10:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov6.051008.10985
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing

In article <51776@drilex.dri.mgh.com> dricejb@drilex.dri.mgh.com (Craig Jackson) writes:
>Is there a POP or IMAP client out there somewhere which will work
>with LAN Workplace for DOS?  I'd like to find a Windows version if
>possible, but DOS is fine.

Craig,
PC-Pine (an IMAP client for DOS) will be available in a couple of versions;
one of them will be for Novell LWP.  (It's in beta now; hoping for a
release by year-end.)
--
Terry Gray
 University of Washington
  gray@cac.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: rfranken@mcs213d.cs.umr.edu (Richard Brett Frankenberger)
Subject: Re: SECUREFX security breaches -- what next?
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:03:28 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1992Nov6.192859.8972@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell) writes:
>Like a lot of other people, we recently downloaded and
>installed SECUREFX.NLM on our NW3.11 server.
>
>Wonder of wonders, we've just had a rather exciting 
>morning, with not one but two apparent security breaches
>detected about an hour apart.  A broadcast message appeared
>on each of our logged-on workstations with the message
>"1.1.255 Security breach against station nn neutralized
>10:45 am".
>
>This brings up two questions:
>
>1)  What do we do next?  Although we have accounting
>enabled, these apparent login attempts are not copied to
>its log, nor do they seem to be anywhere else I can get 
>at.  Is there any way to figure out the address of 
>whoever seems to be trying to connect to us?
>
>frank@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov

Perhaps this should be inserted into the FAQ ... What do you do next?  Sit
back and enjoy your security.  One of two things happened:
 
1)  (Probably the less likely of the two possibilities) - someone was trying
to hack in to your server using the technique first demonstrated by HACK.EXE.
If this is the case, there is not too much you can do.  HACK.EXE works by
forging a packet from another workstation (preferably one with supervisor,
otherwise not much is gained).  The forgery is sufficiently good that the
server cannot detect its source (it appears to have come from the workstation
that i sbeing hacked, rather than the one doing the hack).  Actually, provided
the hacker isn't crossing routers, his MAC address could be determined, but that
would require more effort on the server NLM because normally the "server"
doesn't see the MAC address because it passes through the internal router.
The reason SECUREFX.NLM can detect the hack attempt is that the forgery is
not perfect, and it is possible to see that it probably didn't really
come from the workstation that it appeared to come from.
 
2) No one was hacking into your LAN.  Rather, something happened at the 
workstation connected as station 'nn' that caused it to send a packet to the
server with an incorrect sequence number (I'll spare the net the details here.
Suffice it to say that it is not an incredibly  rare occurance).  (Thats
how SECUREFX.NLM works -- it detects incorrect sequence numbers, which can
be caused by HACK.EXE).  
 
How to tell if it was (1) or (2)?  Was station 'nn' a supervisor station
(SUPERVISOR or a supervisor equivalent User ID)?  If not, then it was
probably (2) above, as not too much is gained by hacking into another
general user's file.  If it was a supervisor connection, then it could have
been (1) or (2) above ...
 
       - Brett   (rfranken@cs.umr.edu)
 
 P.S.  Let me reiterate ... A SECURITY BREACH MESSAGE from SECUREFX.NLM
DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN SOMEONE IS TRYING TO HACK YOUR LAN.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: Connecting NetWare with ibm-pc, sunSPARC, mac ?
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:45:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.025953.12687@kum.kaist.ac.kr> ckkim@mmedia.isl.goldstar.co.kr (Kim Chi-Kwon) writes:
>	I use NetWare 3.11, and I read some reference of NetWare.
>They say it is possible to connect mac with NetWare.
>And It is also possible to connect unix system with NetWare.
>
>Anyone have an idea how to connect mac and SunSparc effectively ?
>
>Our current configuration is following.
> T : terminator
> - : thin cable
> = : thick cable
>
>		    SunSparc                Macintosh Quadra 900 (standalone) 
>		    workstation                   ++
>                    +------+                +----+||
>	            |      |                |    |||
>	            ++----++                +----+++
>                     +-++-+
>                       ||
>  =====================++========================================
>	internet  TCP/IP 
>
Just connect the Macintosh to the thick net cable with the appropriate interface
and install LanWorkPlace for Macintosh (TCPort and Host Access).  As long as you
are running the TELNET/FTP deamons on the Sun, you will be able to TELNET/FTP
to SunSparc from the Macintosh...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
From: dsantos@hprnd.rose.hp.com (David Santos)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 23:15:24 GMT
Subject: Re: login script question from a new novell user
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell

>In comp.sys.novell, kingery@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (L.Kingery) writes:
>
>
>    Hi -- I am new to novell and I'm having trouble figuring out how I
>    might determine if a user is a member of a given group in their
>    login script.  One would think that it could be done with an "if"
>    statement somehow, but I don't see "MEMBER_OF_GROUP" (or whatever)
>    in the list of Novell login script variables.  
>
>    Could someone help?  A quick answer would be great!
>
>    kingery@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu

The command would be: IF MEMBER OF "group_name" THEN

Dave
From: plim@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (plim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: How to extract user info from 3.11?
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:35:20 GMT
Organization: NYU Medical Center, New York, NY 10016, USA


Hello, this is Peggy Lim from NYU Medical Library.  We are offering 
Medline services from a Netware 3.11 server.  Sometime in the near
future we will be migrating our users over to the IBM RS6000 platform.

Rather than re-enter all our user information (including full name, 
department, affiliation, and password), we would like to port the
Novell user file over to the AIX system.  I tried looking for a 
user config. file before I was told that one doesn't exist.  Instead,
I need to find a program that would extract the information from the
Novell bindary.  Does anyone know of any public domain utilities?

Thanks in advance!

Peggy Lim
Network Systems Specialist 
NYU Medical Libray
(212) 263-6990
plim@med.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: Workgroup Manager for Mac
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:17:22 GMT

In article <Bx9yKA.816@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umduddr0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brendan Duddridge) writes:
>I have been asked if I could post a message regarding a problem one of the
>departments in the company I work for is having.  They have designated one
>of their users (on a 3.11 w/3.01 Mac Netware server) as a WorkGroup Manager.
>He would like to be able to have authority to perform all the regular
>network administrator duties for the group of people he manages.  He is
>able to add and delete users, change passwords, etc. from the PC side, but
>not from the Mac side.  It just seems that he doesn't have the authority
>if he's using the Mac Netware Administrator software but he does when he's
>using the PC equivalent (SysCon?).
>
>Brendan Duddridge
>InterNet        : umduddr0@ccu.umanitoba.ca
>America Online  : BrendanD1

Hi,

This should work for you.  I will do a bit of testing for you and give you my
response directly...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell