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From: brett@citr.uq.oz.au (Brett Jordan)
Subject: SBPRO DSP programming: help!
Summary: can't do adc to disk using DSP
Keywords: sbpro dsp 
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:21:39 GMT


I've got an SBPRO and I am trying to write a routine in Turbo
Pascal (5.5) to do ADC to disk using double buffers etc. I can't
upgrade to TP 6.0 and the developer's kit only has a v6.0 unit,
ie I can't use the CVTDSK driver.

I have got playback from disk working fine, but after following
instructions in the developer's kit book, I can't get the interrupt
generated at the end of the first DMA transfer (for ADC). I don't
think that the DMA transfer is even happening.

I am positive that I have set up the DMAC correctly, and I then send
the 24H to the DSP, followed by the lo then hi byte of the data count,
and the interrupt never comes.

I stress that I have got playback working, and digitizing to disk,
shouldn't be much tougher.

Has anyone tried this?
Is the developer's manual incomplete?
Is there an SB prog's newsletter with more info somewhere?

Please help me!

Brett Jordan,
CiTR
University of Queensland,
Brisbane,
Australia.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: bcp1@ra.msstate.edu (Cam Proctor)
Subject: converting .wav
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:21:19 GMT


I've asked this before but only received a single reply.

I have a thunderboard with which i have recorded several megs of sound
file in .WAV format.  i want to convert them to be used by a SparcStation
or a MAC.  Can anyone tell me of a program that is for pc or unix platform
that will do this?

please reply here or at the adress below.

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From: frank@owlnet.rice.edu (Frank T. Kang)
Subject: Gravis and SCSI
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:33:46 GMT

Has Gravis decided what kind of chipset they're going to use for their
SCSI daughter board?  One thing that has kept me from buying the 
PAS is the fact that the SCSI probably won't work under OS2 or the
Unix that I'm using.  

Frank

Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard:1307 rec.music.synth:13742
From: mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam MIROWSKI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Anyone use(d) Music Quest MIDI card?
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:07:20 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Organization: Chorus systemes, Paris, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach) writes:
: 
: Hi all,
: 
: I saw an advertised price for the Music Quest MIDI
: Starter System, which is a MIDI card, that was well
: within my budget. However, I know nothing about this
: critter! Anyone use(d) one or know what it is/isn't 
: capable of doing?
: 

I have a MQ "PC MIDI card", the cheapest of their line.
It is probably the same product. Should cost about $99.
It is a small, has an 8-bit connector. It has 1 in, 1 out.
No tape synchronization (MQX-16 and above have either
Chase lock or SMPTE).
I/O address can be 300H or 330H. The interrupt can be
choosen between several (including the 2/9 of course).

No problems with any game (except Wing Commander I, but there
is a fix available) or music software.
-- 
Adam Mirowski,  mir@chorus.fr (FRANCE),  tel. +33 (1) 30-64-82-00 or 74
Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
From: hartung@crl.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: PAS16 - TBPRO
Keywords: TBPRO
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:42:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug20.141639.20635@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> ccaardp@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Robert D Price) writes:
>
> I recently bought a Proaudio Spectrum 16, bundled with it is a program called
>TBPRO(an Amiga module player). I am really interested in this program, but it
>doesn't work. The problem is when you select a module to play it goes into the
>graphics screen, but then freexes. Does anybody know why??
>thanx

I'll bet it's because one of the following conditions apply to your situation:

	You have a slower machine (e.g., a 16 MHz 386SX) and you have too many
	options turned on.  Generally, with such a machine, you can only have
	_one_ option on at a time.  Having all three on at the same time plus
	a 44.1 MHz playback rate may even overrun the capabilities of a 33 MHz
	386 DX.

	You are installing MVSOUND.SYS with one of the higher IRQ's (>= IRQ
	10), which TBPRO, Monologue, and other utils do not support.

Try changing the setup with TBCONFIG and / or changing your CONFIG.SYS and you
should be able to fix the problem.


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From: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen)
Subject: Re: Is it necessary to buy SB/SDK for programming SB/Adlib?
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:13:48 GMT

In article <BtAGJ0.B1q@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:
>
>>I heard that if a programmer wanna program SB, he/she needs to buy SDK
>>for SB, is it true? Is there any documents/books/packages available?
>>best regards,
>
>Nope, untrue, anthony. There is a lot of source floating about for
>programming the soundblaster. One source is the Soundblaster Freedom
>Project..SBF . There are a lot of talented people out there writing
>good code. Usually, the docs suk though. *shrug* I am making progress
>slowly with C and ASM in programming the SB. 
>
  Where is this lode mine of info?  I'm wondering if I can use the SB Pro to
audition samples from my EPS (besides the obvious writimg-music-for-my-programs
bit), and I'd love any info at ALL on programming it.
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From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Subject: Re: ATI Stereo FX card
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 20:57:21 GMT

In article <gram.713609038@aim1> gram@aim1.aztec.co.za (Graham Wheeler) writes:
>
>I have the ATI VGA Stereo/FX, which is a Stereo FX and VGA Wonder XL rolled
>into one. I don't believe this is SB Pro compatible, only SB 1.5 and maybe
>SB 2. Certainly, it doesn't work with the Windows SB Pro driver, only the
>regular SB driver.

I've seen several messages about the plain ATI Stereo/FX, but this is the
first I've seen about the VGA/S/FX.  What's a reasonable (read: not retail)
price for one of these?

What chipset does it use, and how much video RAM is on the card?  I'm not
familiar with the VGA Wonder XL, or I guess I'd have those answers.

...and if the price on one of these is reasonable enough, anyone out there
want an AdLib and a Trident 8800C 512k VGA card, priced to move! :)

>Graham Wheeler                     | "That which is weak conquers the strong,
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From: toddy@uni-paderborn.de (Thomas Rose)
Subject: Looking for good Composer-Software for Sound-Blaser
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn, Germany
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:39:32 GMT


Hi !

I am looking for a real professional Composer an Mixing-Software which 
can use all the different Sound-Formats (voc,mav,snd). Is there
such stuff as PD ?


          Tom


Please replay via elm !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: tomanix@sintra.xip.dec.com (Antonio Rodrigues)
Subject: Re: Music software for SBPro
Reply-To: tomanix@sintra.xip.dec.com (Antonio Rodrigues)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:04:48 GMT


Please E-mail any info you get,

thanks,
tomanix
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: rrempel@fraser.sfu.ca (Rodney Dwight Rempel)
Subject: Request for FAQ
Summary: Looking for FAQ file for group
Keywords: FAQ
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:32:36 GMT

The header says it all. Is there a FAQ file for this group?
Can someone repost it, please and thank you.

Rod Rempel rrempel@sfu.ca
From: mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam MIROWSKI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: MIDI from PAS-16 to std MIDI
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:26:15 GMT
Organization: Chorus systemes, Paris, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

rchan@Newbridge.COM (Richard Chan) writes:
: 
: 
: I'm interested in wiring up a MIDI connector between my PAS-16 and my
: Yamaha DX-27 MIDI synth ( standard MIDI connector! ).  Has anyone done this 
: already?  Any specs/schematics would be greatly apprecieated.  
: I basically want to put an optic coupler between the PAS-16 and the synth.  
: 
: From the PAS FAQ, I got the pin-out of the D-15 connector on the
: back of the PAS are:
: pin	purpose
: 1	+5v
: 4	ground	
: 5	ground	
: 8	+5v
: 9	+5v
: 12	Midi out ( Ground on MIDI mate and thunder board )
: 15	Midi in ( +5V	 on MIDI mate and thunder board )

Well, that is exactly the cabling of the SoundBlaster Game/MIDI
port. You could use any of the schematics existing for the
SoundBlaster MIDI adapter. If you don't have such, I can send you
a schematic of my own.
-- 
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From: rry@tachyon.att.com (Raghu Yadavalli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Gravis Ultrasound and MIDI
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:04:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


 
Hello Everyone,

I am new to the field of MIDI and the soundcards.  Please
bear with me if this is a really silly question.  Here it
is anyways:

I have been considering buying a MusicQuest midi interface
card for my 386 box to play with a MIDI keyboard (Yamaha
PSR400/Casio CT-700).  Basically, I am interested in
recording the output (MIDI) of the keyboard, modifying it
and playing back.

The ultrasound is an attratcive choice because of the
additional capabilities to play games and the other sound 
processing features.  The question I have is:
 
How does the Ultrasound card compare with the MusicQuest 
or similar MIDI cards? Can it do everything the MusicQuest 
board can do? (I am thinking more iterms of functionality 
and not sound quality here.)  If not, how is it different?

Thanks in advance for all your help.


Raghu Yadavalli
AT&T Bell Labs,
Holmdel,  New Jersey
raghu.yadavalli@att.com

PS:  I spoke with someone at Gravis yesterday (8/12/92).
He said the ultrasound card will be shipping in the week 
of Aug 17.
From: chad.smith@yob.sccsi.com (Chad Smith) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: SOUND ROUTINES
Date: 11 Aug 92 15:20:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Reply-To: chad.smith@yob.sccsi.com (Chad Smith) 

Could someone please tell me how to program in sounds and how to program
the SBPro to play music? I would like to make games and stuff, but don't
understand that much about the way the SBPro works.
Turbo Pascal 6 source codes would be best!
From: amigo@milton.u.washington.edu (The Friend)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Assembly'92 Demos
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:40:33 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully) writes:


>In a previous article, amigo@milton.u.washington.edu (The Friend) says:

>>
>>	Just wondering if anyone knows if there's a FTP site for the
>>Assembly'92 demos? The first one released is definitely the best demo
>>done on a IBM-class machine, and some of them blow anything to date away
>>(Amiga demos even). Its called "Unreal" and is a whopping 2.4 megs, lasts
>>>5 mins. Its on wuarchive (128.252.135.4) in the uploads area. Hopefully
>>we'll see more!
>>

>What's the file name?  I looked in the uploads area but didn't see
>anything that looked like it...


	under "unreal.zip" in /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS.

						--> Mike
From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: disclaimer about modcode.zip
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:30:16 GMT

Wednesday August 05 1992 21:29, -=[SLS]=- wrote:

 -> Hi again, I just ul'd something called modcode.zip and found later
 -> that it does NOT have any good info on the mod format. It still looks
 -> useful though so I won't cancel the article.

Did you happen to see the distribution notice at the top of MODOBJ.DOC, about
"Greyhawk BBS _only_" distribution? Obviously not.

In any case, by ftp you can find it as /misc/msdos/mp/modobj.zip on
info.brad.ac.uk.


Regards,
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From: cti@weber.ucsd.edu (CTI acct)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Head Disk drive w/ SB Pro
Date: 13 Aug 1992 16:04:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu
Summary: Dell 325P, SB Pro card

We have a Dell 325P with a Sound Blaster Pro

The machine works great, a real workhorse.  It has 8 MB memory and
the Dell 212 MB hard drive, all Dell hardware.  We have a SB Pro
card in it, and when the hard drive is accessed, you can hear it
through your headphones really clearly.  NOT the floppy, BTW.
Anybody have any idea why/what a cure might be?
From: mikeb@pandora.dell.com (Michael Brundridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Soundblaster and 486's
Keywords: soundblaster
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:15:24 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Co

ransley@parnasus.dell.com (Robert Ansley) writes:

>  I just bought a Soundblaster Pro.  It works about 80% of the time.
>  When it crashes, it CRASHES!  I have a 486 25/50mhz DX2 machine.
>  Is it true that Soundblasters just don't function well on a 486, let
>  alone a fast 486?  I've tried calling SB tech support....yeah right!
>  That failing, I thought maybe someone here could advise.  Thanks!
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Robert,

I reported a problem with the Soundblaster and Pro not working in a 
486 50Mhz (& DX2/50) in April or so of this year to Creative Labs. The
problem occurred on all the 50Mhz based machines I had on hand (many   
different vendors).

I talked to one of their engineers several weeks ago and he told me it
was a timing issue and that they had written the drivers based on a 
80386 33Mhz system.  They are suppose to have a new driver up on their BBS 
(which I have not had time to check out yet) that is suppose to fix the 
problem in most cases. 

A funny thing happened, while I was making this reply one of Creative Labs
Consultants called me.  She informed me that Creative Labs is very interested
in resolving this problem.  They have ordered systems from vendors with
reported problems and will test and hopefully have a complete fix soon.  
When? Don't ask me, I only know that they are working on it.  I will be  
talking to the lead person in charge of resolving this problem at Creative
Labs soon.  So if you have some info you might want to send it my way so
I can pass on the issue to him.  I am talking about the FM circuit problem
here, so if you have a different problem, you might want to make sure
you let me know what it is.  

While I was talking to the consultant I reminded her that there has 
been some flack on the Internet about this problem. She told me they will
be trying to get an Internet address to pipe into this and other Multimedia
NEWS GROUPS to talk to people about this and other issues.

--
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		         So try and prove that I do.

mikeb@pandora.dell.com				 	Michael Brundridge
From: thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Problem with windows driver (PAS16)
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:57:12 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Aug19.214243.27625@newshost.lanl.gov>, Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com> writes:
> 
> I had the same problem when I installed PC-Tools for Windows V7.0 (I
> needed the B/U program before doing a Windows NT install).  Evidently,
> PC-Tools (and probably NDW) replaces the VMD driver with one more
> optimized for doing tape/floppy backups or some strange thing.  The fix
> is to re-install Windows.  I did that, and the only thing I had to do was
> reset my MIDI driver entries.  On second thought, I may have had to
> re-install the PAS-16 Windows drivers after the Windows install.  Try it
> out and post your results.
> 
> If it works, we should have it added to the PAS-16 FAQ.
> 

I'll put this in the FAQ if it works.


> --- Gavin
> Visualize Whirled Peas!


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From: ayao@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Aubrey Yao)
Subject: HELP REQUEST: Soundblaster
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:18:09 GMT


Would someone with considerable experience with working out little bugs and
incompatiblities between soundbalster cards and computer configurations please
mail me?  The problems I experience are really no big deal, but I am very
curious as to why they happen...

Thank you...

AY
ayao@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: gram@aim1.aztec.co.za (Graham Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Speech recognition
Organization: Aztec Information Management
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:51:06 GMT

clrmic08@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:

>Here in the darkest of Africa we don't get those kind of cards. Soundblaster
>and Adlib cards are available but very very expensive. We used a card made by a
>local company. It's got 16 single ended channels capable of sampling at 30Khz, 

What card did you use? Also, it's not true that they're very very expensive;
AdLib clones (Mouin card) are under R200 (but they don't do sampling).

>The part about matching templates is dead right, after filtering the audio we
>took samples for each word stored them as templates and then after each
>recognition we update each template.

How did you do a match? Also, do you use the whole waveform, or do you just
extract the envelope?

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From: hsiaoe@aix.rpi.edu (Eric Hsiao)
Subject: Re: FM Synth - SB Pro Vs. PAS16
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:22:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.141321.13663@cci632.cci.com> pjb@cci632.cci.com (Phil Busardo) writes:
>Can anyone tell me if the FM synthesizer on the PAS16 is any better than 
>the one on the SB Pro?
>
>Thanx.

Depends on which SB Pro..version 1 or 2.  Most people own version 1 which uses
the old FM chips that the AdLib used when it was first released (hence, a
SB Pro version 1 sounds exactly like a SB except it's in stereo).  The new
Version2 uses the new FM chip just released less than a year ago.  The SB Pro
games out now use the old FM chips (i.e. Ultima 7, ST25, Rampart, etc.), but
support for the new FM chips should be around the corner.  However, since
both Creative Labs & MediaVision stopped marketing their Pro cards with the 
old FM chips and replaced them with the new FM chips, support for the old stereo
FM mode will go the way of the dinosaur.  

    Reasons for considering the PAS-16 over the SB Pro:
PAS-16 retail price just dropped to $299 so mail-order prices will be around
the same as a SB Pro.
PAS-16 has a high-performance SCSI adapter which can use almost any CD-ROM
drive, while the SB Pro uses a 40-pin non-standard proprietary interface.
PAS-16 has 62 volume level settings, the SB Pro has 8.
PAS-16 developer's kit is offered either free or at very low cost, compared
to the $100 that CL wants to SB dev kit.
PAS-16 samples at 44.1kHz 16-bit stereo, while the SB Pro does 22.1kHz 8-bit
stereo.
PAS-16 comes with better software.  "Hello there...I'm a talking parrot, please
talk to me...hehehe...don't touch me...yuck! You have bad breath..."
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From: tswanson@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Gravis:  EA says September release...(more info)
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:37:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <12AUG199223073252@scsuc.ctstateu.edu>, makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (MAKOFSKY,STEVEN) writes...
>In article <12AUG199218165886@misvax.mis.arizona.edu> tswanson@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES.) writes:
>>
>>Just a note,
>>Called Electronic Arts and they said the Gravis Ultrasound would be
>>released in Septemeber.  I don't know if that means the Aug 17 date posted
>>earlier is invalid or if it just means EA won't get their shipments til
>>September.
>>

>I talked to Gravis this afternoon, and they still claim it will be out
>next week (the 17th)... Time will tell..

Hmmmmm.  I called them again.  Not sure if it was the same woman, but I
acted as though I was calling for the first time.  I asked again for a
release date, and she said end of month (though it sounded like she wasn't
sure).  I mentioned that I had heard of an Aug 17 release date and she
amended it to between Aug 17 and end of the month.  I decided the only way
to settle this was to order one.  My instinct tells me that they are just 
being a little noncomittal since they don't actually have it to ship yet.  
As you say, time will tell...

For those that haven't received the flyer, EA's number is 1-800-245-4525.
Ultrasound is $99 with purchase of a game.  Game prices range from $17 
to $59.  With each additional game, you get $10 off.

If anyone gets their mitts on one, please let us all know.

Later,
Ted.
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