From: lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Sick to death
Date: 8 Sep 1992 14:32:51 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.

In article <1992Sep4.205829.17396@afit.af.mil>, jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
> 
> lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Sep4.005247.8080@afit.af.mil>, jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
> >> 
> >> lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave) writes:
> >> 
> >> >I am sick to death of the Republicans using the non-issue of "family values"
> >> >to distract the voters from the real issues.
> >> 
> >> >I am sick to death of the lies distortions and half-truths being spewed from
> >> >Bush and his lap-dogs. Even when they are caught red-handed, they continue
> >> tuning all else out.  I can agree with you that campaign rhetoric is 
> >> exagerated, libelous, and unfair.  I wouldn't even attempt to defend
> >> some of the statements coming from the Republican campaign.  What really
> >> galls me, though, is the "selective indignation" (just learned that...)
> >> from the Democrats.  They complain about lies from the Republicans and 
> >> go on lying themselves.  
> 
> >The difference is that while Clinton has spelled out his programs, all we
> >get from Bush is rhetoric. period. His rhetoric would be alot easier to take
> >if there was ANY substance given along with it.
> 
> Well, you had me going.  You sounded reasonable, asking people to just
> look at the records and eschew campaign rhetoric.  But you turned out to
> be just another screamer.  You can plainly see the lies on your
> opponents part, but refuse to see your own side's. Anybody who can stand
> up and say, "All the rhetoric is coming from the other side!" is either
> blind or worse.  If you cannot honestly see the exagerations and lies
> coming from the Democrats as well, I have vastly less respect for you.

Actually, I am not so naive to think that some lies and exaggerations are
flying from both sides. However, there are written documents
(not those ridiculous party platforms) being disseminated by the Clinton
campaign outlining his views and programs in surprising detail. Where are
the equivalent documents from Bush? Just look at the lack of these kind of
documents posted by Bush's people to the net. He doesn't even give us any hints in
his recent speaches as to what his programs entail. These type of documents
coupled with the public records of these two men would make it alot easier
for people to make an informed decision. What is Bush afraid of? Are
attacks on Clinton's draft record and discussions of vague non-issues like
"family values" really what I want to use to make my decision?
I think not.

> 
> >>    And you forgot one:  The Democrats don't believe in "family values".
> 
> >According to several of the Republican speakers, they don't. So what is
> >your point?
> 
> This is one of the lies and exagerations the Republicans are dishing
> out.  I thought I'd point it out to you since you didn't include it as
> one of your examples.   
> -- 
> 
> Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
> jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
> 
> 

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton