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From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Cual es la razon?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:27:17 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

sergio@Ingres.COM (Sergio L Aponte) writes:

>	Mi punto es : my newsrc reporta alrededor de 1900 newsgroups genericos.
>	Si ahora Chile quiere esos 1900 temas pero en "chile.", depues panama
>	quiere esos 1900 temas en "panama.", china en "china.", etc... Donde
>	vamos a llegar?

Es el USENET.  Que sera', sera'.

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From: tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: rec.games.mecha
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:10:24 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

David C Lawrence writes:
>rec.games.cyber predated the rec.games.frp reorganization and was
>specifically named that way by its proposer to avoid all of problems
>with against splitting rec.games.frp reorganizations.  

True, but a stinkweed by any other name...

>Now [...] there is no reason not to put roll-playing games back in 
>rec.games.frp where they belong.

That's ROLE-playing, though I know of a few people whom the misspelling
definitely applies.  There are two reasons:

1) No one is willing to run the vote, least of all the moderator, who
   was responsible for the current state of affairs in the first place.

2) It would go under the heirarchy, not back in rec.games.frp. That group
   no longer exists officially.  It would look something like r.g.f.cyber.



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From: bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.windows reorganization
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:32:31 GMT
Organization: Applied Information Systems, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <1bhtqdINNqiu@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU>, plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:
> In article <1992Oct14.120940.5800@ais.com> bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright) writes:
>>The problem, as you say, isn't with people who have found the correct
>>newsgroups, but if the first thing one sees in comp.windows.misc says
>>explicitly that this newsgroup is not for MS-Windows and directs the
>>reader to the appropriate newsgroup, I think the problem will be greatly
>>reduced.  The article doesn't have to be very big -- a dozen lines or so.
> 
>    Judging by my recent posting to comp.windows.misc which did exactly
> what you describe, it will have absolutely no effect.  Of the thirty or so
> articles which followed mine, only about two of them were not MS-Windows-
> specific.

Did you put an expiration date on it?  My suggestion was to put an
expiration date some time into the future on it (say a month or so),
and repost as needed to keep it constantly around so that the clueless
would see it immediately on looking into the group.  It seems to have
expired off this site, so I assume it did not have an expiration date.
Since the problem is with people who have just stumbled onto the group
(possibly even that same day), it needs to be prominently and permanently
displayed.

Bruce C. Wright
From: quigley@boston.sinet.slb.com (Joe Quigley)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: rec.sport.fencing
Keywords: fencing, foil, epee, sabre
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:07:43 GMT
Reply-To: quigley@boston.sinet.slb.com (Joe Quigley)
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies CAD/CAM Division


Hello, Dave,

I would be great to be informed about events, especially when
traveling on business.  Over the years I have been collecting
contacts both here (US) and in Europe for training while I am 
on the road.  It's has been a great experience.

I haven't seen any referece to fencing yet from Paris and nothing
yet from the Great White North.  Is anyone from these places or
others reading this message?

Regards,
Joe Quigley
Newsgroups: news.groups,chile.grupos
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Cual es la razon?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:55:17 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez):
>In article <2AD57E64.555A@tct.com>, chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>> Hace sentido tener grupos distintos para otros idiomas.  Quiza's seria
>> u'til tener grupos "esp.*" en vez de "paiz.*".
>
>Chip tiene razon, sin embargo [...] NADIE ha mostrado interes alguno por
>hacerlo :-(

De verdad, la cosa primera is _crear_ la hiera'rchia (del?) esp.*.
Es mas fa'cil distribuir una cosa cuando esa cosa existe.  Necesitamos
decider cuales grupos deben copiarse a esp.* primero, por supuesto.

Como siempre, uunet carga todo grupo.  Puedo pedir a "sybus" y "pdn",
nuestros fuentes de Usenet, que carguen esp.*.  Y me gustaria tener
esp.* aqui' en tct.  Ya tenemos cuatro.  :-)

(Debo poner ['] sobre la "i" en la palabra "gustaria"?  No se'.)

En serio, la Florida (donde estoy) en una locacio'n muy apropriada
para esp.*.  Hay mucha jente hispana en todo el estado, especialmente
cerca de Miami.
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Newsgroups: news.groups
From: gordons@CS.ColoState.EDU (vahl scott gordon)
Subject: rec.arts.drumcorps - NOT BANDS
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 14:49:26 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

>dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
>
>Anyway, I would like to say that I do agree with the selection of these
>newsgroup names:
>
>       rec.[arts.]bands.misc
>       rec.[arts.]bands.marching
>       rec.[arts.]bands.marching.drumcorps

Gadzooks, no.  Most drumcorps fans feel they are more closely aligned
with winter guard, which doesn't fit into this hierarchy at all.

>These choices agree with one other statement I've seen elsewhere, and with
>which I'm in total agreement:  that the MUSIC is 90% of drum corps.  It
>certainly is not the MARCHING that draws me to the activity.  Given the
>relative numbers of marching bands vs. the relative numbers of drum and
>bugle corps, it is much more likely to find persons who have participated
>or have in some other way been involved with marching bands.

Then why aren't you suggesting rec.music.drumcorps?

>       rec.[arts.]bands.[marching.]drumcorps
>This would illustrate to the 'netter immediately that drum corps are
>indeed a type of marching band.  They would then learn, from reading the
>group, that there is a lot more to drum corps than they might otherwise
>have suspected.  If they are not interested in even marching bands, I don't
>believe they will be interested in drum corps; at least, this is my own
>assessment of the opinions of those I've spoken with...

no no no no no no.  How many times have I taken a skeptical friend to see
a show ("but I don't LIKE marching bands!")... to have them come home
saying things like "wow, I've never seen anything like that!" and
"gee I was expecting a marching band, but this was full professional
correography" and "it's like a huge JAZZ band" and such.  Lumping them
together is a very bad idea, and, as I said before, locks out winter guard.

Scott
From: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: talk.politics.model-un
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:24:18 GMT
Reply-To: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


I wouldn't mind seeing a group like this, though access down to the
High School level where a lot of the model-UN-type events take place
might be a bit difficult.
 
On a related note: does the real UN have Internet access?

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From: u538256@csi.uottawa.ca  (Chris Chenier)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.autos.offroad
Reply-To: u538256@csi.uottawa.ca
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 19:03:07 GMT

In article <BvpwHo.Gzr@uunet.uu.net> gregc@jacobi.WPI.EDU (Greg "Your  
Friendly Neighborhood Poet" Charland) writes:
> 
>      This thread has come up before in rec.autos, so this time I figured  
I'd
> do something.  This article is a Request For Discussion concerning a  
newsgroup
> for people with an interest in Four-Wheel Drive vehicles, their  
operation, 
> maintenance, history and other uses.
>      The discussion in this newsgroup could range from anything from
> care and maintenance of four wheel drives to off-road driving techniques  
to
> the environmental concerns off-road driving causes.
>      At this point, we have many choices:
> 	-We can ask for creation of a rec.autos.offroad or such
> 	-We can ask for creation of a rec.4wd
> 	-We can temporarily create and alt.4wd to see how much discussion  
it
> 	would draw.
> 	-And I'm sure there are other things we can do.
> 
>      It seems to me that an alt.4wd group would be a good start.
>      Anyone with anything to say about this is asked to post an opinion  
on 
> news.groups.  I more than welcome any suggestion.  Thank you for your
> attention.
> 	Later,
> greg
> -- 
>      ---------------------------------------------
>       Gregory M. Charland-----> gregc@wpi.wpi.edu  
>      ---------------------------------------------


I would read such a newsgroup a lot.  I belong to the "Ottawa Super Suzuki  
Samurai Off Road Club" and would be happy to talk to people in the club  
about good articles in the newsgroup.  I have read rec.auto from time to  
time but found too much stuff about speed and race cars.  I think that  
rec.auto.offroad is a better name than rec.4WD since afterall, 4WD trucks  
are a sub class of automobiles.
From: hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.games.mecha
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:28:20 GMT
Organization: negligable

Wouldn't these fit under the existing frp topic?

The problem w/ battletech (& the other mecha games) was that 
they weren't (quite) role playing, they weren't (quite) board
games, they weren't (quite) wargames.....

Not to mention that we also are including the other types of
games (mainly computer-based) that also are related.

I'd say the ninja-high school discussion could fit quite
well under frp because it is still basically an frp, regardless
of what it was based upon....

comments?

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From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Create a killfile? AAAAAAAARGH!
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:47:41 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang):
>In article <rawdon.718939267@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>>Ahhh, logic.  "If we don't have 'em, then it's our moral duty to drag those
>>that do back to the dark ages."
>
>Better than "Let them eat cake."

Royalty assume responsibility for running their kingdoms.  I have not
assumed responsibility for running Usenet.  Compare and contrast.
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From: rana@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Nabeel Ahmad Rana)
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:57:48 GMT

scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) writes:

>rana@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Nabeel Ahmad Rana) writes:

>>	The group will be MODERATED because of its controversial nature.
>>The moderators have been decided through personal e-mail contacts within the
>>Ahmadiyya Muslim Netters community. The community has generally agreed to 
>>have the following moderators to start the newsgroup:

>>Moderator:	Nabeel A. Rana  (rana@rintintin.colorado.edu)
>>Co-Moderator:	Dr. Tahir Ijaz (ijaz@ccu.umanitoba.ca)

>While I am not in principle opposed to moderated groups of this type,
>I would like to see a clear statement from the moderators and in the
>charter that moderation will not be used to quash dissenting opinion.
>No related topic should be off-limits, and the moderation should be
>used to avoid flamage, not supress dissent or disagreements.


Dear Steve Simmons:

You are certainly very correct. We decided to have the group moderated
 as I told earlier, because of its controversial nature. The moderation
will only be used to avoid any impolite or abusive/filthy use of language
in the newsgroup. This is from experience from the past, the Members of
the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community have had history of being used such
language from the opposing non-members in some parts of the world.

Other than that any dissents or disagreements would ofcourse be welcomed. 


I hope this clears every thing.



Sincerely,
____________________________________
Nabeel A. Rana
e-mail: rana@rintintin.colorado.edu
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From: hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.windows reorganization
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:21:57 GMT
Organization: negligable

How would changing "windows" to "windowing" help.  The MSWindows people 
still need a place to post.  The reorg should take this into account, and
perhaps think ahead for Windows-NT and OS-2 (not really certain whether
NT & MS-WIN need different groups or not, haven't got ahold of the NT
API, but I *think* it's supposed to be a different animal...)



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From: df1y+@andrew.cmu.edu (David James Foremsky)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.arts.marching
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:46:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kepMoya00iV2I1ZoMM
	<1992Oct8.154043.6644@medtron.medtronic.com>
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 08-Oct-92 in Re: RFD: rec.arts.marching   
user Christopher Carriero@med writes:
>I like the idea of the newsgroup: rec.arts.drumcorps.  That way it is not 
>constrained under the text of "marching".  Most drum corps' do not march at
>all.  Shows are now intricately chorographed (sp?).  Very little marching 
>takes place.  So I don't feel we should have the sub group "marching" 
>included at all.

Not to sound overly critical, but what kind of drum corps are you
talking about? There are very few (any?) corps in the DCI ranks that
just go out on the field and stand still while playing. I am still in
favor of a hierarchy which includes the word "marching" in it, as in the
most recent RFD.

Dave
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.autos.offroad
Reply-To: finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Organization: Grumman Data Systems	
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:22:24 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-14541]: invader.navo.navy.mil

In article <BvpwHo.Gzr@uunet.uu.net>, gregc@jacobi.WPI.EDU (Greg "Your Friendly Neighborhood Poet" Charland) writes:

|>      The discussion in this newsgroup could range from anything from
|> care and maintenance of four wheel drives to off-road driving techniques to
|> the environmental concerns off-road driving causes.
|>      At this point, we have many choices:
|> 	-We can ask for creation of a rec.autos.offroad or such
|> 	-We can ask for creation of a rec.4wd

The official group, to stay with the naming convention, should be
rec.autos.4wd

|> 	-We can temporarily create and alt.4wd to see how much discussion it
|> 	would draw.

I suggest we create alt.autos.4wd to stick close to the naming convention.

|> 	-And I'm sure there are other things we can do.
|> 
|>      It seems to me that an alt.4wd group would be a good start.
|>      Anyone with anything to say about this is asked to post an opinion on 
|> news.groups. 

Let's go for it.

Kenneth
finnegan@navo.navy.mil
From: fath1@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: Second RFD: rec.arts.marching.drumcorps & rec
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:08:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct12.170853.16310
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <Bw0nqK.B71@csn.org> pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
>In article <Oct12.155332.93341@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> gordons@CS.ColoState.EDU (vahl scott gordon) writes:
>
>There have been several postings this past week, and I can't tell if
>they are for or against the gropus, as proposed. I suggest we try to
>limit our discussion to this issue.
>
>As it stands now, I have recorded no objection to the second RFD. If anyone
>does have an issue, now is the time to speak.
>
>--phil

I support the creation of these two groups as proposed.  If there is a lot of
traffic for bands, then we can consider splitting later.  For now, misc is
the way to go.


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From: lunatic@netcom.com (Lunatic Johnathan Bruce E'Sex)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.games.mecha
Organization: Netcom; Renegade User
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:19:20 GMT

In article <1bfc0qINN4j0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aj834@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott A. Maehner) writes:
>
>I heartily approve of this new group, but I have a
>question/suggestion/nitpick...what about other anime/anime-realted games? 
 
 
    \/\/ell, I think that would be trying to extend the proposed
 charter a little TOO much.  Certainly, discussions of how to use
 a separate, existing mecha game's rules to facilitate the mecha
 combat portion of an anime-style RPG would be welcome in
 rec.games.mecha.  Also, proposed NEW rules for an existing
 anime-style game for the addition of mecha combat would be
 surely appropriate.
 

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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Quotes/Tags/.Sigs group?
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:30:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: qualcom.rdippold.718849847
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

No, I'm not talking about alt.fan.warlord, just wondering if there was
any interest in a group where we could get together and discuss and
exchange taglines/.sig quotes.  Say, rec.humor.taglines.  But they're
not all humorous.  news.taglines?  So the questions I have are:

1) Anyone interested?

2) What the hell to call it.


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Newsgroups: news.groups
From: mts@wam.umd.edu ()
Subject: Re: RESULT: misc.forsale.computers reorganization
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:20:34 GMT

    I know that the discussion of this was long ago, but I was just wondering,
why did anyone even propose this?  We all know that anyone who has something 
forsale is going to cross-post to every newsgroup, so whats the point?
Just look at misc.forsale,  about 70% if not more of these are cross-posts
from misc.forsale.computers.

    

Newsgroups: news.groups
From: kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson)
Subject: misc.health.allergy vs sci.med.allergy?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:18:17 GMT

Since the misc.health.alternatives name has been suggested, I've
been thinking that misc.health.allergy might be a better place for
an allergy newsgroup.  One main reason for suggesting an allergy
group is to make a place for casual discussions about personal
experiences and so on that may not be appropriate in a sci group.

Then maybe the more scientific articles about allergies could
remain in sci.med unless the traffic got too great.  Or maybe they
could be cross-posted there as well as misc.health.allergy,
although cross-posting is usually discouraged.  There is also an
effort going on in sci.med to make some Frequently Asked Question
(FAQ) files and allergies will be included.

There is also bionet.immunology which is a good place for highly
technical articles about lab experiments and other academic
subjects.  And there is an electronic mailing list on immune system
disorders.

Anyway, m.h.a is probably the name I'll use next week when our vote
comes up, unless there are objections.
-- 
Krista Anderson, att!ihlpf!krista
From: FURRJK@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Joel Furr)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: re-newgrouping
Date: 14 Oct 1992 01:08:12 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I've been asked by some people at a site which has newsgroup problems
to ask for a re-newgrouping of the rec.games.mud.* groups, and also
the following alt. groups:

alt.fan.paws
alt.angst.xibo.sex

I can't issue newgroups myself, but as these groups are desired by people
out there, perhaps someone can help.
From: birmingh@fnalf.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: Quotes/Tags/.Sigs group?
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:21:24 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov

In article <411@ulogic.UUCP>, hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman) writes:
> I'd go for it.
> 
> rec.signatures?
> 

         alt.fan.warlord ?

> 
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From: dstewart+@cs.cmu.edu (David B Stewart)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: comp.sys.vmebus ==> comp.sys.bus.vmebus
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:12:01 GMT
Reply-To: dstewart@cmu.edu
Organization: The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University


This is with regards to a proposed new newsgroup for VMEbus-related discussion.

Based on the recommendations of some USENET readers and from some of the USENET
advisors, I propose that the newsgroup be named 'comp.sys.bus.vmebus'.  This
allows for expansion if the newsgroup is succesful, and users of other
open-architecture buses want to start up similar newsgroups.  The USENET
advisors say that it is easier to plan ahead now, then to try to change
the names or reorganize newsgroups later.

The call for votes can be made as early as this Friday, so if you have any
comments or objections to this name, now is the best time to discuss it.

~dave

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