From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Evil Bulgaria? (was Re: INDEPENDENT SLAVO-MACEDON)
Date: 24 Aug 92 18:46:00 GMT
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Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 



VP>I have never heard a Bulgarian stating that Macedonia should remain united.

  Why all the Bulgarian attempts at consolidating Macedonia then?
  In any case, it is true that these claims have significantly subsided in
  the past 20 years. It is my view however that in the unstable climate
  of the Balkans these flames could be very easily re-lit. Why prime the
  file with fuel, by making accepting as valid a fictional premise created
  to support these claims to begin with?

VP>First, it was in the name of the liberation of all Bulgarians from foreign
VP>rule, and not the unification of Macedonia. And at that time it was proven

  What does liberation of Bulgarians have to do with occupying Varder and
  (Greek) Macedonia, in the side of the Nazi troops? Why occupy Vardar if it's
  residents are Macedonians, not Bulgarians? Why occupy Greece after the
  population exchanges had taken place? Only one portion of Greece had
  significant Slav populations after 1913 (that's Thrace that became Greek
  after WWI). Why occupy Greek Macedonia?

VP>Second, what exactly was the Balkan League treaty? (BTW, I have many times

  An agreement between Greece, Servia, Montenegro, Bulgaria and Romania to
  combat Turkey for the purpose of liberating the Balkans. Worked well until
  1913, when Bulgaria went it's own way.

VP>stated that starting the Second Balkan War was one of the worst mistakes of
VP>the Bulgarian Government. Another one being the lack of strict division of th

  Say that again; they would be sitting on more than 50% of Macedonia today had
  they not pulled that stunt.

VP>I don't think so. So far all Greek netters agreed, that it was Tito who
VP>supported the Greek Communists.

   And Sofia. After Tito had a falling out with Stalin, Sofia repeatedly
   pleaded with Stalin for support of communist Greeks, and provided
   communist Greeks with support and material.

VP>|> situation, thousands of Greek communists and Serb nationals were
VP>|> evacuated from the region by orders from Sofia.

VP>Where did the Serbs come from? Especially if you insist that the orders came
VP>from Sofia.

  I goofed. I typed Serbian at least three times where I meant Slav. My
  apologies.

VP>I see now. You are implying that the slavic population in the area was neithe
VP>Bulgarian nor Macedonian, but Serbian. And considering that pro-Serbian

  Again, I mis-typed. Clearly I was not refering to Serbian
  populations in Thrace, but Slav. Please re-read my statements making the
  appropriate substitutions (CH/Serb/Slav/* * )

  Michael

VP>|> lived north of the border prior to 1913,(till they were evacuated in
VP>|> the same population exchange), yet Greece makes no claims to any of
VP>|> those territories.

VP>Totally and absolutely agree on that! However I am curious on any Bulgarian
VP>claims on Greek soil lately (the historical references you make about the war
VP>are irrelevant. because at that time there still was substantial Bulgarian
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VP>population in Northern Greece and/or many refugees, who wanted to go back to
VP>their homes).

   Tell that to Sasa. She has stated again and again that a slavic minority
   exists in Greece. The government of Skopjie has also filed a formal
   grievance against the Greek government for the alleged abuse of those
   nationals. Clearly their intentions in spreading such mis-information are
   not friendly.

VP>Vassil Peytchev

Michael.

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