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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Shane Douglas in WCW
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:54:38 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


  Shane Douglas made his return to WCW last night on WCW Saturday Night.

  He defeated Super Invader with a belly to belly suplex.  Before I wasn't
quite sure if S. Invader was really Hercules, but the mask he wore last
night was very see through and it was obviously him.  Was it always Herc?
When SI first came in, he was doing crescent kicks to the face of opponents,
and I'd never seen Herc do that.  All other moves are just like Herc does them
though.

  Other match results:

  Stunning Steve pinned a jobber with the Stun Gun.  Steve is getting a little
better definition in his build.  Challenged Steamboat.

  Brad Armstrong used his Russian Legsweep to pin Scotty Flamingo.  Afterwards,
Brad asked Pillman to come out and straighten things out.  Nothing happened
at this point.

  Barbarian wins with a kick to the face.  He actually is doing moves.  Not
many, but gorilla slams and backbreakers are better than just chops.

  Showed highlights of NWA finals.  Rude demands a rematch.

  Pillman pinned Marcus Alexander Bagwell (couldn't they give him a shorter
name?)  Brad came out again, Pillman slapped him, they fight.  Flamingo and
Bagwell join in.  Armstrong and Bagwell clear the ring.  

  Ricky Steamboat defeated Vinne Vegas to retain the TV title by a roll up.  

  Anderson and Eaton beat jobber team by submission.  Anderson came off ropes
with a knee onto jobber's arm (usually Eaton does it).

  Steiners challenge AA & BE but "we run out of time and leave in the
midst of all this action."  I hate when they do that.  Almost as bad as when
they used to do it in the middle of the main event of the show.
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Lessons learned on Prime Time
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:17:15 GMT

In <3606@ra.nrl.navy.mil> luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:


>While watching Prime Time on and off last night, I learned two
>things:

>1. The WWF "writers" are getting really lazy. I saw Crush's "Hey,
>   I'm Hawaiian" interview for the first time. It's amazing that
>   rather than work this in somehow, they just have Crush come out
>   and say it. I guess it's pretty urgent that this be established,
>   huh? Maybe, with the Samoans returning, the next PPV will contain
>   the "Polynesian Pummeling": Crush vs. a Samoan for the honor
>   of all Polynesian peoples.

I think the urgency in establishing this was that everyone was
complaining about the lousy interview segments Crush gives/gave. On
Superstars, he said something like "People have been saying to me,
Crush, you don't seem to be yourself recently...well, that's because
I've got something I didn't tell you...Crush is from Hawaii."

Since then, it really does seem like a weight is off his shoulders.
Now, he just switches back and forth between the two languages at will
during his interviews, and in general seems more relaxed about it.

This guy could still be the next Hogan.


>   I can just picture the next PPV when we hear Brett Hart's music
>   and his introduction, but then Davey Boy will walk down the aisle
>   holding a small goldfish bowl and explain that the Hit Man can't 
>   wrestle the match because Shango turned him into a newt.

I think they would only do this if Bret jumped to WCW...but wouldn't
the look on the marks' faces be priceless!?!?

Michael
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: How many UWs?
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:19:42 GMT
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In <1992Sep10.213128.27525@news.iastate.edu> jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson) writes:

+>	Like it says, including whoever is acting now, how many people have
+>been the Ultimate Warrior since he became that persona?
+>	My brother says two, and i say three.
+>	So what's the truth?

	There were four.

	The original Warrior, Jim Hellwig 
		(Died, steriods )
	Buck Zumhoff
		(Jailed)
	J.T. Southern
		(fired in a money dispute last year at Summerslam)
	Scott Hall
		(hired this past year)  

	And remember, Brutus Beefcake is Hulk Hogan's brother, Rick and 
	Ole anderson are cousins and the andersons are all brothers.
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From: schmata@camelot.bradley.edu (Peter Stein)
Subject: Meltzer's address for Observer?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:14:47 GMT


What with all of these references to Meltzer's Wrestling Observer, I was
wondering if someone could post the mailing address for the Observer? His
wrestling column for the late, great National was one of the main reasons I  
bought that paper. His exposure of the Gastineau-Dukes boxing/wrestling fiasco
was perhaps the National's final crowning acheivement IMHO, and I would love a
subscription to the Observer. Also, what are the Observer's particulars (size, 
photos, how often it comes out, etc.).  

--
Pete Stein, rspw's number-one free agent (Chill, Sean, I'm working on a new
.sig! =)
               
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Randy Savage errata
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:53:42 GMT

In <1992Sep8.183911.12667@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dan Fielding) writes:

>> I've been seeing a lot of references to "Macho Man" Randy Savage on rspw sin> coming back.  Well let me tell you, man, get it right, Mr. Poster.  It's just
>> plain, OLD, Randy Savage.  Because I am the only poster in the r.s.p-w who is simply OOOOOZING MACHIIISMO....

>Two things:
>1.  The guy with the machismo gimmick is Scott Hall, aka Diamond Studd, aka
>Razor Ramon.  Get it right next time, eh?

Uhhh...he was doing a Razor Ramon impression, Dan, or did you get that
and this comment is ironic? Its a direct parody of what Rrrazzorrr
said to Gene this past weekend.

>2.  I'm r.s.p-w's REAL stud, and don't you forget it, punk.

Oooohhhh we're real afraid!!                NOT

>No, no.  Best WWF shot of the summer was one that didn't happen:  Randy Savage>through the head, with a .38 Special.

Sorry, Dan, that's not funny. According to a poster here (who,
admittedly, sounded like a mark) someone tried to shoot Jake Roberts
at the Sportatorium recently.

Neither suicide or murder is amusing. Randy's having some real
problems in his real life. Give the man a break.


>Nope, but why don't you go find a shovel and start digging it yourself?

I'm shakkkkinggggg......

>Dan Fielding, Stud-at-large.  And Sexiest Man Alive...

My wife would disagree! :)

Mike
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From: cadesjar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: What is a Prince of Darkness match?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:52:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.094242.9510@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00njhavert@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>	What the hell is a Prince of Darkness match? And for that 
>matter what are a Texas Bull Rope match and a Coal Miner's glove
>match?

Did you see the Jake Roberts/Rick Martel Blindfold Match???
Then you've seen a Prince of Darkness match. Just a couple of
guys wearing hoods made so that they can see out of them, but
act like they can't. The babyface points around the ring waiting
for the crowd to shout out when he's pointing at his opponent,
"letting him know" that his opponent is in that direction.
Of course, the heel tries this also, but the crowd fakes him out.

It's a dumb match. Probably one of the all-time dumbest matches.
We do NOT want to see this at HH. (but it would fit in with the
theme of the PPV --- both men wearing hoods designed with skulls
and other "scary" images to make it even more Hallowe'en Spooky [tm].

(**SLAP FOREHEAD**  there I go again, putting stupid ideas into their heads)

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From: isbell@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Andy Isbell)
Subject: Re: Lessons learned on Prime Time
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:32:25 GMT

mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>In <3606@ra.nrl.navy.mil> luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:

>>While watching Prime Time on and off last night, I learned two
>>things:

>>1. The WWF "writers" are getting really lazy. I saw Crush's "Hey,
>>   I'm Hawaiian" interview for the first time. It's amazing that
>>   rather than work this in somehow, they just have Crush come out
>>   and say it. I guess it's pretty urgent that this be established,
>>   huh? Maybe, with the Samoans returning, the next PPV will contain
>>   the "Polynesian Pummeling": Crush vs. a Samoan for the honor
>>   of all Polynesian peoples.

>I think the urgency in establishing this was that everyone was
>complaining about the lousy interview segments Crush gives/gave. On
>Superstars, he said something like "People have been saying to me,
>Crush, you don't seem to be yourself recently...well, that's because
>I've got something I didn't tell you...Crush is from Hawaii."

Oh what a great way to set up an angle!!  Now all Vince has to do is bring in
some guy and call him Punch.  Then he and Crush can have a fued over who is
really from Hawaii.  Vince could probably even get Donny and Marie Osmond to
escort Punch to the ring.  Of course they would be heels and would interfere in
all of Punch's matches.  Punch would naturally have one of Vince's favorite
finishers, and could set it up by yelling at the Jobber of the Week for all the
crowd to hear, "How'd you like a nice Hawaiian Punch?"  He would really
generate heat with all the little marks whose mothers probably make them drink
Hawaiian Punch instead of something good like Dr. Pepper.  I think Vince would
really do well with this.  Maybe I should send him a letter with these ideas.
I bet he would send me a lot of money for helping him out.

NOT!


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From: st-amant@cgl.ucsf.edu (Alain St-Amant)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Mr. Perfect and Ric Flair on Live, with Regis and Kathy Lee
Keywords: Perfect, Flair
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:33:11 GMT
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if anyone is interested, Perfect and Flair will be on Live
with Regis and Kathy Lee tommorrow (thursday the 10th).
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: PWI Top 500
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:13:21 GMT

In <92257.171552IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:

>     What kind of drugs is Bill Apter dishing out at PWI?!?!
>62-Riki Choshu
>109-Genichiro Tenryu
>114-Barry Horowitz
>157-Hiroshi Hase
>209-Masa Chono
>     Are they mad that Japanese cars are selling so good.  Or do they
>just have a natural hatred for Japanese wrestlers.  And Barry Horowitz
>114!  That makes him pretty good doesn't it.  Better than Hase and Chono!
>Sure.  Lets be more serious PWI.

Well, that and why is Curt Hennig rated AT ALL???? The man hasn't
wrestled in OVER A YEAR!!!

I don't have the issue yet, do they give an explanantion as to why a
someone whose been inactive for 13 months deserves a ranking at all?

It was like the inaugrual PWI 500 where they rated Savage, what, 3 or
4, yet he hadn't wrestled in seven months at that point because he
lost his "retirement" match at WM MCXLVIII.

Totally bogus. Even for PWI.

(BTW...has anyone noticed how the same group that publishes PWI et al.
also publishes WCW Magazine. Good grief, can you say "conflict of
interest?")

Michael
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: SlumberScam SUCKED
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:55:00 GMT
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In article <BtyxKH.3zM@askinc.ask.COM>, robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen) writes...
> 
>1) NOT Mc$'s fault, BTW--my cable company (TCI in San Carlos, CA) 
>   told me I'd get both the 5 pm and 8 pm replay for the low, low
>   price of $32.50.  First, there was a "communications problem" 
>   getting the broadcast to subscribers in Redwood City, where I live,
>   which is one city south from San Carlos.  At 5:15, still no PPV, then
>   it cut in with the last couple minutes of the LOD/$ Inc. matchup.  I
>   was pissed and called to complain, but the #'s were busy off the 
>   hook.  So I taped the rest of the first broadcast and also set the
>   VCR to tape the second show in case there were more "communications
>   problems".  I went to work and came back with an hour left in the
>   replay.  IT WAS SCRAMBLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm in the process of
>   trying to get a full refund as I NEVER got the first 15 minutes.

Sounds real familiar.  I've yet to order a PPV event of any sort in
which there wasn't some sort of foul-up on the part of the cable
company.  Of course, when you complain and ask for a refund or credit,
they tell you "of course," knowing full well that they aren't going to
do so.  But, you're dealing with a monopoly, so just bend over and
spread 'em, and make sure you have plenty of Crisco handy.  (Geez, I'm
starting to sound like Phil Stromer)

>2) Some of the so-called "action" in this event (which I of course 
>   watched on tape) was enough to make me embarassed to admit I'm a
>   rasslin' fan.  

What?  You expected otherwise from the Whiff?  :-)

>QUESTIONS:
> 
>1) Was there a televised match before LOD/$ Inc.?  If so, it must have
>   been a short squash.  I could've sworn that Santana and/or Shango
>   were supposed to appear.

I was under the impression that Shango's being in a dark match was a
foreshadowing by McMahon as to the role he would play during the PPV. 
Of course, I didn't watch the thing, so I may be just relying on what I
read here for that impression.

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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Today's Power Hour
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 16:37:57 EDT

In article <12SEP199206192034@acad3.alaska.edu>
fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:
 
>I liked the Steiners vs. Muto/Sasaki match.
 
Me too.  Particularly, Sasaki's imitation of Rick Steiner.  Tony
Schiavone indicated that Sasaki will be coming to North America to
work in WCW.  Anyone heard who he'll be programmed with?  And can
anyone provide any background on Sasaki?
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Please, no more Re: P
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 23:52:29 EST
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In article <2392.137.uupcb@ssr.com>, Dave Scherer writes:

>   >In fact, I think he WILL win it back sooner or
>   >later, because Vince, despite his differences with Flair, doesn't really wan
>   >Watts to get him back.
> 
> He won in Hershey last Tuesday.  Plus, Flair and McMahon get along very
> well.  What makes you think otherwise?
> 
What makes you think they get along famously? I'd be pretty mad at a guy
who knocked me out with a chair. :-)      

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: WWF
Keywords: WWF Champion
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:15:09 GMT

In <Bu4CtI.3t6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:

>  Incidentally, what was the size of the crowd when Ric won the title.  Is
>it big enough that, if Vince decided to nix Flair's second title reign, Mr.
>Tunney would have to go on television and announce that

> "In recent viewing of the situation in the WWF, due to the external
>circumstances involving the recent altercation between the Macho Man Randy
>Savage and Ric Flair, I feel no alternative than to declare void the title
>match that occurred in Hershey, reinstate Randy Savage as the World Wrestling
>Federation champion, impose a five million dollar fine on Razor Ramon, and
>vow that, in the future, I will use more than one sentence to make my 
>rulings...

..which is a big step forward for me considering, though I am
supposedly president of the World Wrestling Federation, I am nothing
more than a pawn of Vince McMahon, so for me to state that I will do
something that Vince has not approved is tantamount to treason here in
the WWF and subject to punishment of either dinner for one with
Kamala, or being locked in a room with Pat Patterson, or having Razor
Ramon sing Barry Manilow's greatest hits, whichever Vince McMahon
decides, please, somebody help me <click> help me Obi-Wan, you're my
only hope <click> help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope <click> help
me..."
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Please, no more Re: P
Date: 5 Sep 92 13:59:00 GMT
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Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

DF>Whoa, wait a minute, hold on.  Why COULDN'T Flair have won the title?  I mys
  >doubt Flair would've made the jump in the first place had there not been som
  >World gold promised to him.

Dan, btw I love the gimmick,
Flair really had no other choice, as he was Titan was the only one
giving him a substantial offer in this country.  WCW had burned their
bridge with him.

  >In fact, I think he WILL win it back sooner or
  >later, because Vince, despite his differences with Flair, doesn't really wan
  >Watts to get him back.

He won in Hershey last Tuesday.  Plus, Flair and McMahon get along very
well.  What makes you think otherwise?

  >Barbarian, for example.  8)  But seriously, he has done NOTHING to indicate
  >that he could throw a dropkick at someone, or execute his cradle suplex.  By
  >what Dave and Eric have said, Hennig won't be wrestling again for another si
  >months.

I have heard many different reports on the actual status of his back.  I
am sure the truth lies somewhere in the middle.  The way I see it, the
big stumbling block is the insurance settlement, and who would pay what
part of it back.  Again, that is opinion, not fact.

DF>Dan Fielding, Stud-at-large.

Good work if you can get it!
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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: How many UWs?
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In <1992Sep12.024551.14411@physics.ucla.edu> price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes:

+>In article <visser.716242782@convex.convex.com>, visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
+>>	...Rick and 
+>>	Ole anderson are cousins and the andersons are all brothers.

+>Hmm.  How can Rick and Ole Anderson be both cousins *and* brothers?

	Their father had children by two sisters one child was Rick and
the other was Ole.  That makes them brothers on the fathers side and 
cousins on the mothers side.  (well half-brothers anyway).

	


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From: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Jeff Foy)
Subject: Dustin jobbing for Cactus Jack?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:29:22 GMT

Is Dusty still booking for WCW? If so, why is Dustin jobbing so much for
Cactus Jack all of a sudden? Don't get me wrong, I like it when the little
snot gets beaten up just wondering why.

Fwiw, they should lose Van Hammer. He's not even interesting.


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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WCW] H. Havoc '92
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:36:37 GMT
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> In article  <1992Sep9.064159.6039@nuscc.nus.sg>, NG LING LING writes:
>> In article <Bu9tBG.3zn@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Joh:
>>>Russian Chain Match
>> 
>> Luger-Hansen, U.S. title, WrestleWar 89 (?).  Wrestlers connected by a 10-12'
>> chain tied to their left wrists.  Winner is the first man who can pull his
>> opponent around to all four turnbuckles and touch them, without interruption

> ...and so on...

> actually, what you're talking about is a variant called the Texas 
> Lariat Match where a rope was used instead of the chain. Hansen (the 
> then U.S. Champion was going to give up the belt before going back to Japan
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Didn't Hansen indeed *win* this lariat match?  I could've sworn I 
remember him dragging Luger from post to post to post to post and 
winning to either retain or gain the US Title.  But I don't have it on 
tape, so....I could've sworn he won the title, then went to Japan.

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