From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: Why is Data so limited?
Organization: Aston University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:16:56 GMT

wildcard@nevada.edu ( WildCard !!) writes:
: In article <1992Nov13.113856.29888@aston.ac.uk> evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes:
: 
: >Why not have communicators wired up to all starfleet presonnel, after all
: >it's just a case of hooking then up to the appropriate neuones (the
: >same level to technology as the VISOR)
: >Or build in a phaser into everones hands. 
: >-- 
: 
: I have a feeling we have a Borg sympathizer in our midst! :)
: 
: Only a "borgie" (as we call them) would suggest that our "Human" qualities
: should be replaced or augmented with technology.
: 
: :)

DO PLEASE READ THINGS FROM THE START!!

> joseph@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Joseph Dawson) writes:
> : In article <1992Nov11.110840.7331@aston.ac.uk> evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes:
> : >joseph@odie.cs.mun.ca (Joseph Dawson) writes:
> : 
> : Joe>: Why is data so limited.  He shouldn't need a communicator.  He should
> : Joe>: have one built.  Data should be able to talk with the ship without
> : Joe>: talking out loud.  He could also have a phaser built in, and that is
> : Joe>: only a start.
> : Joe>:  
> : Joe>: What do you think?
> : 
(Comments I put is here about the UFP being unlike to borg were removed)
> : Mark>Because data was intended to be a humanoid sentient being. How many humans
> : Mark>klingons, vulcans, deltans, ... do you see with build in phasers or
> : Mark>communicators.
> : Mark> ...
> : 
> : Good point mark, but if you use that logic, Data would only be as strong as
> : a human and would move as fast as a human.  How many humans can think as fast
> : as data, or move as fast or be as strong as Data?  As well I don't think
> : that having a build in phaser of communicators would make him any less sentient.
> 
> I said humanoid and listed the other species for a for a reason.
> It is mentioned in the episode "measure of man" that the demonstration of
> data's strength was not relevent since many species have strength greater
> than humans

> Why not have communicators wired up to all starfleet presonnel, after all
> it's just a case of hooking then up to the appropriate neuones (the
> same level to technology as the VISOR)
> Or build in a phaser into everones hands. 
: 
: Really, though. There seems to be alot of anti-cyber sentiment in ST:TNG. 
: Polaski kept on bugging Geordi to get his eyes fixed and Crusher offered to fix
: them too I believe. Most people feared/hated Data (esp. Polaski) except his 
: close friends. Everyone was shocked at the Borg, acting like "Oh, ghod! This is
: the most blasphemous thing we have ever encountered! They are humans that gave 
: up their "humanity!" and sh*t like that.
: 
: I personally think Data's should be mass produced and all Starfleet officers
: should be heavily cyborged with *at least* a Visor and internal communicator.

What happens when you update the technology, you have to update all your 
officers. Rather than give them new equiptment.

There is also a very strong feeling of anti-cloning in UFP.
: 
: From the samplings on the Enterprise, I'd conclude that people like technology
: so why fear one aspect of it!??
: 
: Just some ramblings from...
: 
:                               - WildCard !!
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