From: yshan@screamer.ece.ncsu.edu (Youn-Sik Han (Snyder))
Subject: Re: YS SHOULD not BE QUALIFIED   ( RE: AFTERMATH of ELECION)
Reply-To: yshan@relito.medeng.wfu.edu
Organization: NCSU Visualization Lab	
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:06:35 GMT


In article <1992Dec29.110041.33582@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>,
mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO) writes:
> 
> btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee) writes:
> 
> Byeungtae's Claim:
> 
> >        Why did you ignore the fact that YS trashed so-called "3-parties
> >        merging-secret-agreement" (Kak-Seo) of which core was parliamentary
> >        system, and rejected ChongChan Lee and TJ Park's request of
that when
> >        he desparately needed them?
> 
> Minho's DISCUSSION:
> 
>          YS was in favor of the parliamentary system between the 87
>          presidential election and the 3-party merge.   Whenever people
>          reprimanded his preference of the parliamentary system over
>          the president-oriented system,   he withdrew his comments on
>          his favorite.   Moreover, I remember he announced  abrubtly that
>          he liked the president-oriented system changing from the
>          parliamentary system,  right after secret meeting with DJ.

Why do you think YS changed his preference to president-oriented Government
system? And Why do you think DJ suddenly changed his preference to
parliamenary government system, ignoring his cheap words of "if people want"?
Can you comapre the reasons you think about both sides' prefernces? I want to
enhance my understanding. Do you know what hsa been talked during the secret
meeting between the two Kims? 

>          was trying to hide the truth boldly".   The columnist
>          criticized YS's morals and dishonesty in the column.))

Have you ever seen a politician who is honest from the beginning to the end
in Korea?  DJ? 
Do you really expect such a person to come into the stage? 

>                     It was obvious that the prime minister
>                     should come from the majority paction,  Minjung-Gae.
>                     Therfore,  he had to bet a big gambling:  Breaking

What was the purpose of YS joining the DLP?
What was the purpose of DJ joining the election of '87?

>                     system.   He does NOT have any philasophy on what
>                     he prefer.  Of course,  the empty brain should not
>                     have any concrete philosophy and principles.

I have seen his philosophy on president-oriented system, which I like, during
his campaign. That was STRONG civilian GOVERNMENT. As some of DJ supporters
said, if the economy is the real urgent problem of Korea, We need strong
government. With parliamnetary goverment, which are based on the several
parties, is it possible to solve the the economy problem without governing
efficiency?  Who has the genuine stone brain between DJ and YS? 

DJ:	sudden change to parliamentary system to get elected as a president
	with the aid of 5-th and 6-th republic military group,
	which is sure to be a weak government.
	emphasis on economy knowledge and understanding (The degree of
	understanding of DJ does not seem to be far ahead of me, who is an 
	image analysist.)

YS:	president-oriented goverment => strong government : can handle the
	economy problem efficiently with the use of genuine economic
	brains in that problem.

>                     "SINCE THE PEOPLE WANT".   In the future,  YS are
>                     very likely to change the system,  depending on
>                     his political status.

I agree to you with this. All politician will do that. DJand CY promised(?)
parliamentary system DEPENDING ON theier POLITICAL STATUS.
I hope YS could be able to change the Constitution, with the support from the
majority of the people, which permits 4-year 2-term presidency. This hope
would be the same in case of DJ's win as a president.

>         In this point,  I would like to mention the characteristics of
>         the Choong-Buk people (This never means offense against the
>         Choong-Buk people.  I don't have any ill feeling on them.  I just
>         want to add the fact to my justification).    People said that
>         the Choong-Buk people are stubborn,  very conservative,
>         and are reluctent to changes.   

You actually offended me though I am not from Choong-Buk, and you say "This 
never means offense". I'd like you not to say this kind of stuff.

>         If DJ had run as a candidate of
>         Minja for the presidential election,   DJ should have obtained
>         34 % as much as YS got.   

DJ could never run as a candidate of DLP with his genuine stone brain. I think
he also made a right decision when he was offered a party-merging. He was sure
that he will be destroyed after being used. He did know himself in that point.

>         You should keep in mind that YS got 28 % in 87 presidential election.

You should keep in mind that YS had been elected as a president if DJ did not
join the election 87. and also that DJ might have been elected as a president
in election 92.

>         What if DJ had run in Minja-Dang clothes for 92 election ?

He never can make it (DJ -> MinJa candidate) happen.
or, at best he could be able to become a boss of second largest group in MinJa.
 
>         However,  when DJ was suggested to join Minja-Dang,  DJ rejected the
>         proposal of parties merging, while YS betrayed the peoiple accepting
>         the proposal.

Did YS betrayed his supporting people? This should be re-evaluated, I think.

Hey, the netters who have been among YS-supporters before the "Conservative
Parties Grand Merging", Do you think you are betrayed by YS, NOW?

Also, I want to hear from the netters who has been one of DJ-supporters before
87 presidential election, do you think you are betrayed by DJ, NOW?

Han