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Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!david    Jan  4 18:15:00 1993


   Is it true that I would be pumping less "greenhouse gases" into the 
   atmosphere running around with my headers open as opposed to going 
   through a calalytic converter?
   It may be a FAQ but please briefly touch on how a 3-stage CC works!



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From: pnkerton@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Phil Pinkerton)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:41:10 GMT
Subject: AUDI#2
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech

sorry I doing this from home and my PC is having a problem.

   anyway I made sure the #1 piston was at top by carefully
   checking with a metal rod.

   #4: I then looked at the flywheel and a yellow mark was
       lined-up with the mark on the housing. So I ASSUMED
       this was the proper setting for the crankshaft.

       since the mark on the camshaft sprocket was opposite
       of the mark described in the manual I removed the
       timming belt and distributor cap, then rotated the
       cam until the rotor was pointing as described in
       AUDI#1 ( toward the clamp screw opposite the vacuum
       unit. I replaced the distributor cap and timming
       belt. I replaced the plug and plug wires with the
       #1 plug at the point where the rotor was set and
       made sure the firing order was correct. Well

       #5 NOW IT WON'T START at all. Where did I go wrong??
	
	email pnkerton@hpindda.cup.hp.com
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Subject: Leaking brake fluid.  How to find leak.
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 9 Jan 93 21:03:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
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-> I seem to have a leak in my brake system.  Every 2 weeks I have to
-> fill up my master cylinder with brake fluid.  What can I do to find
-> where the leak is.   I have tried to look for obvious leaks but can't
-> find any.

 Do you have power brakes?  If the seal inside the vacuum booster dies,
fluid can get sucked into the engine.
From: dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: anti-lock brakes/retrofit?
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:26:46 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

is there any company out there that manufactures a realistic retro-fit
anti-lock braking system for older cars?  In my specific case I'm driving
a Plymouth Voyager, and am really getting pissed about the rear end
sliding out with the slightest provocation.

thanks

danny

dannyb@panix.com
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From: andyh@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Andrew J. Huang)
Subject: Re: How do you determine correct tire pressure?
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:50:25 GMT

In article <692@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca> dnwangus@flash.LakeheadU.Ca (Dave Angus) writes:
>
>What's the right way to figure out what tire pressure to use?
>Dave Angus                                   "Kundalini wants his hand back"

One "right" way is to measure tread temperature and get as close as
possible to even temperatures across the tread.  This relies on
temperature being related to stress.

-andy

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From: alc@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Al Chang)
Subject: Re: Oxygenated Gasoline and Low MPG (super unleaded?)
Organization: Grumman Corporation
	<ELI.93Jan3201123@regal.cisco.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:55:28 GMT

In article <ELI.93Jan3201123@regal.cisco.com> eli@cisco.com (Steve Elias) writes:


   both of my honda civics gas mileage dropped by 15% or so
   with this oxy gas.  power seems to have dropped by at least
   15% on the 91 civic hatchback (70 hp rating).

My Dodge 3.3L went from 17 to 15 mpg, completely local.


My Buick 3.8L with knock sensor also, I lost 2 mpg local driving. 
When I tried 89 octane, I get 1 mpg more. No significant performance
difference. (May be my imagination, but it is a touch better.)


On Highway from LI (Oxy. gas) to Buffalo I got 21 mpg. Buffalo I
filled up with non-Oxy. I get 23+ on the way back.


   i know that a properly tuned designed-for-87-octane engine without
   knock sensor should not benefit from super unleaded.
   but as an experiment i am running super unleaded in both hondas now.
   on the 91 hatchback, there is a noticable power increase with 
   the super oxy as opposed to the normal 87 octane oxy fuel.  
   is this the placebo effect?  has anyone out there tried this?

   /eli


I wonder, if car manuefactuers tuned the car's computer for Oxy gas,
would MPG and performance return?

Al




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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Care and Feeding of Woodgrain Sides
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 21:04:11 GMT

In article <RRUSK.93Jan7161801@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com> rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.185429.15424@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, andyh@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Andrew J. Huang) writes:
>
>>In article <RRUSK.93Jan6164741@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com> I wrote:
>>>OK, so after swearing in my teens that I'd never own such a beast, I've
>>>come into posession of a Dodge Caravan with woodgrain sides.  Although
>>>the exterior decor would not be my first choice, I'd really like to treat
>>>it well and have it look presentable for a long time.  So, how does one
>>>maintain woodgrain sides?
>>>
>
>>:-)
>>1) Tung Oil once a year
>>2) Pledge once a week
>>3) Remove scratches with 00 steel wool and Olde English furniture
>>polish
>
>>Seriously, unless this is a 50's Woody, isn't the woodgrain about the
>>same as auto paint and you treat it the same way (weekly washes in
>>muddy water, seasonal spraying with salty water, occasional peanut
>>butter finger painting)?
>
>I'm sorry, I thought that "woodgrain" would make it clear that I didn't
>mean real wood.  This stuff is like wood-grain contact paper only thinner.
>And yes, that is my question exactly.  Do you wax this stuff, is there
>some other kind of treatment you should put on it, etc.?
>
>I remember back in the late 70's that the older Fords were having a
>lot of problem with their woodgrain sides.  The finish was turning
>milky.  More recently, a lot of the Caravan/Voyagers from the late
>80's that have the woodgrain sides are having problems with the
>finish peeling on the trim strips that surround the "wood".
>
>So, how does one best care for fake imitation not-quite-real stick-on vinyl 
>woodgrain on the exterior of a late-model minivan?
>
>(Is that better?  ;^)
>

I had a 73 pinto wagon with woodgrain (woodie) trim that I drove 
for 3 years in MN & 6 years in CA -
I washed & waxed it regularly and used Armour All on the woodgrain,
I never had a problem with the woodgrain going 'milky' or fading like
a big number of them did - towards the end I did encounter a 
'puckering' at each of the door handle indentations - but other than
that had no problems with the car and/or wood trim



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From: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu (Terry Quinn)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: 90/130W H4 QI headlight bulbs wanted
Date: 9 Jan 1993 08:05:03 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



Dan Hepner says . . . 
 
> The first goal of driving is to stay alive.  Other than driving 
> crazy yourself, the most significant thing you can do to raise your
> chance of dying on the highway is to drive among people who
> are mad at you.
> 
> This applies to all of left lane blockers, people with bright
> lights, motorcycles who run their brights during the day, and
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> tailgaters.  Maximizing the chance of being killed because a mad 
> redneck did something stupid in your vicinity just doesn't
> seem, well, the goal.
 
 
In Illinois, it is the law that motorcyclists must run their 
headlights during the day.  But assuming that you are just 
referring to hi-beam vs low-beam, why does this bother you during 
daylight?  I've never found headlight beams to be annoying during 
the day, and I think motorcyclists should run with high-beams on 
in daylight (they need every chance they can get to be seen by 
"blind" 4-wheelers).

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From: awds_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Adam Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Mystery Engine Code!
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:29:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


I was experiencing some very rough running of my '88 Thunderbird Turbo
last week.  I took it into a garage that does diagnostics, and
the mechanic obtained the codes in memory.  He came up with
a '30' which he said didn't exist in any of his manuals.  Does
anyone know why a computer would spit a code that doesn't exist?
Any insight would be helpful.

Adam

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From: jbm@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Jeffrey Mulligan)
Subject: Re: Steering wheel angle
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:08:52 GMT

stangler@wyvern.twuug.com (Tom Stangler) writes:

>Andrew Lavigne (alavigne@bmerh930.bnr.ca) wrote:

>: Anyone out there know if it is possible to have the steering wheel angle
>: changed without an alignment??  The car still tracks perfectly; it doesn't
>: pull off to the side.

>Yes they can be "off center". Roads have "crowns" on them, and sometimes to
>make the car go straight, you must turn the wheel a bit. Also, worn bushings
>could require you to take up the slack in the steering by cocking the wheel.
>	I'd hate to think the steering rack is so worn that the gears
>"jumped" a tooth, or that the splines in the column did the same.

>Check for slop in the steering system.

Also, if someone besides you took the car for a drive they could
have hit a curb or something and bent a tie rod on one side.  If
it's not to bad this could be fixed by realigning.

-- 

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From: tuomasp@mits.mdata.fi (Tuomas Paasiala)
Subject: Re: How to store a car for 6 months
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:42:38 GMT

In article <C0ELxH.DFr@ulowell.ulowell.edu> tclin@cs.ulowell.edu (Ta-Cheng Lin) writes:
>the battery will be drained. Is there anything that I have to take care
>of? Will the battery be still alive when I connect it back?

It will be alive but you should charge it before you put it back in
car. IT will be better for battery.

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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: Oxygenated Gasoline and Low MPG (super unleaded?)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 06:27:50 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.


>In article <4278.88.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:
>
>->    I'm just tuning in so spare me.  I've heard that this oxygenated
>-> gasoline
>-> is the same stuff you could buy at the cheaper gas stations
>-> (Speedway, Gastown) before.  That is that all it is is regular
>-> unleaded gas mixed with 10% ethanol.
>
> Oxygenated fuel is blended with a compound called MTBE, which is
>somethingorother <mumble> ether.  It's also often blended with alcohol
>as well, but the alcohol is not part of what makes it "oxygenated."
>                                                                                                                      

Methyl teriary butyl ether, CH3*O*C4H9, a very high octane fuel that
carries an oxygen atom as part of its structure.  Other comonly used
oxygenates include methanol (CH3OH), ethanol (C2H5OH), TBA (teriary
butyl alcohol, (CH3)3COH, commonly used as a co-solvent with methanol),
and TAME (Teriary Amyl Methyl Ether, (CH3)2C2H5COCH3).  MTBE and TAME
are the most common ethers.  Methanol is in limited use, limited mainly
by its corrosiveness and its tendency to separate out of solution in
the presence of water.  MTBE is popular because it is easily synthesized
from isobutylene and methanol and thus fairly inexpensive.  And it
smells sooo good :-)  

These oxygenates have been in common use for years as a lead-free
octane booster for premium no-lead gas.  The EPA has simply mandated
more.

This stuff is really nifty for us hotrodders.  Given the engine is
rejetted/calibrated for the extra oxygen, it will make more power.

John



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From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: cleaning solvents
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:54:33 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <29172@oasys.dt.navy.mil> plumpe@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Plumpe) writes:
>In rec.autos.tech, dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:
>> I'm now the happy owner of a solvent tank.  My wife picked it up at a
>>company auction for $40.  It's made of 1/8 steel plate with a
>>counterbalanced lid and even has provision for a 6" vent stack.  It
>>apparently was filled with lacquer thinner before we got it.  (phew!)
>>It holds approximately 50 gallons. (200 liters)
>>
>>before I put it into use.  The question is, what do I put in it?  It
>>will be primarily used for cleaning cylinder heads and engine blocks.
>
>I believe I read that mineral spirits (generic paint thinner) is commonly
>used.  Not as cheap as gasoline, but then I wouldn't want to stand in
>front of an open 50 gallon container of gasoline, or lacquer thinner
>either :-)   Kerosene might be a possibility - I don't know how its
>flammability compares with mineral spirits.

Generic paint thinner is cheaper than gasoline -- there is no road tax
on it ( I assume you cannot get gasoline without road tax ).  You
might have to look around a bit to buy it by the 30 gal drum.  Places
that supply large printers carry a wide variety of solvents.  

Locally, Printer's Oil Supply Company ( Wilmington/Andover line, near
Charles River Breeding Labs ) carries just about every nasty,
useful chemical you can think of.  And they deliver free with
quantites of 55 gal and above.  All it takes is cash or certified
check, and you do have to sign the "cradle to grave" form for each
purchace.

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Subject: Re: Soviet Air-cooled diesel engines
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:24:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
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-> >-> They produce air-cooled diesel engines that are claimed
-> >-> to out perform the liquid cooled variety and can operate
-> >-> at extremely high and low temperatures. Also, they are
-> >-> supposed to be cheaper.

> Doesn't anybody remember Volkswagons??


 To the best of my knowlege, VW hasn't ever made an air cooled Diesel,
or at least they didn't sell them in North America.
                                                                              
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From: lee@hsh.com (Lee Havemann)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech,rec.autos
Subject: Re: Suction cup slide hammer ?
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:54:17 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <1993Jan8.125456.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, auidcc@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> I have a large (~10"x20") dent in the lower panel behind the door of my
> car.  The paint is not scratched or cracked, and there are no sharp 
> creases.  I think that it would pop out OK, but I can't get to the back
> of it.  I know that there are slide hammers that screw into the sheet
> metal to pull it out, but that requires repairing the hole and painting.
> It seems that I have seen a suction cup type of device to pull out dents,
> but I can't locate one in an ad or catalog now that I need it.  Am I
> just imagining that there is such a thing?  If not, does anyone know
> of a mail-order source?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve

It may be cheaper to take it to a local body shop and slip the guy a $20
to pop it out with a suction dent puller....


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From: bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche)
Subject: Re: Soviet Air-cooled diesel engines
Organization: MetaPro Systems, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 01:46:39 GMT

In <C0HFL7.Kr0@panix.com> dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein) writes:

>In <4336.88.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us>
   dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:

>>-> They produce air-cooled diesel engines that are claimed
>>-> to out perform the liquid cooled variety and can operate
>>-> at extremely high and low temperatures. Also, they are
>>-> supposed to be cheaper.

>Doesn't anybody remember Volkswagons??

No. I remember Volkswagen. ;-|

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From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: porting the heads
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:43:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.142213.3828@dvorak.amd.com> chris@dvorak.amd.com (Chris Ne
ugebauer) writes:
>In many discussions or articles on high-performance engines,
>one thing that I frequently see mentioned is that 'they ported
>the heads'.  What exactly does this mean?  How much of a power
>increase is this sort of thing good for?


Most engines,(not blueprinted), from the factory, have heads which can
be considerably modified to increase, not necessarily torque, but top end
horsepower, from higher gaseous flow.
     Reason being is that these heads are made on a budget and cannot each
be individually put on a flow bench and get the right metal hogged out
in the right places, to increase flow.  Instead, the factories make a practical
design which can be cast inexpensively and will work satisfactorily in the
engine.   (To make a long story shorter)

     On say, a V8, the areas which can be trimmed to increase flow (correct me
if I'm wrong) are around the valve guide boss, and the roof of the port.
Of course, there are many other modifications you can make to the heads (three
angle valves and so forth).

     As far as the power increase on an unmodified engine, I'd guess at
between 10%-15% in overall horsepower.  For an already modified engine, it
depends on what all the engine has to utilize the porting job ( ie. manifold,
carb, cam...)

steve
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From: lee@hsh.com (Lee Havemann)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Carter Quadrajet?
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:55:30 GMT
 <1993Jan11.120653.460@hsh.com> <1iulgqINNo36@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>
Distribution: usa
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <1iulgqINNo36@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, jimv@hienergy.East.Sun.COM (Jim Vienneau  - Sun Microsystems) writes:
>>Also installed on the 65 (-66?) Pontiac 396 engines... (had one on my '65 Bonny
>>Ragtop).
> 
> 
> You mean 389, right? Pontiac never made a 396. The Carter is a ThermoQuad, not
> a Quadrajet which is Rochester's trademark for their spreadbore design.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Vienneau, Sun Microsystems Inc - Chelmsford, MA
> Email: jvienneau@east.sun.com   Amateur Radio: WB1B
> Good old Ma Bell (well old anyway): (508)442-0372

Yes, I did mean 389 - it's been a while since I had it :-( 

With the crap they are putting out nowadays, I wish I still had it!


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Subject: Re: AC Delco oil filters?
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:27:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> > with the 3800 V6. The threaded end is pointed straight upward.  Why
-> > would this require an anti-drainback valve?

> I assume that the threaded end referred to is that of the filter, if
> so the car may not "require" the PF47, but since it is a very popular
> filter and is used on the the 3800 and 3.8L engines it was specified.


The various versions of the 3800 angle the oil filter out of the way of
whatever chassis or accessories they're working around.  GM probably
decided to simply specify the anti-drainback filter for all
applications.