From: aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: MACSBUG V6.2.2.   VIA ANONYMOUS FTP...IT IS COPYRIGHTED.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: An Ol Ag surrounded by a bunch of unfriendly Seminoles
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 23:59:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.204114.8431@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, tsandeson@mta.ca
wrote:
> 
> 
>    Hello, I was just informed that macsbug version 6.2.2. is copyrighted
> software. As I'm new to the mac world I am confused. I was just told that
> it was a copyrighted program and from what I know copyrighted programs
> are not allowed on public access systems which would include anonymous
> ftp sites since anyone can logon to that type of site. Is this true?

Yes and no. ftp.apple.com is a legal site. The other sites may have
a local distribution restriction - go looking for the readme files or
a license file.
 
>   If it is then even ftp.apple.com would be quilty since I remember seeing
> it there also. I found these address via the ARCHIE ARCHIVE RETRIEVAL at
> archie.au. I was proggin for anonymous ftp mac sites and this popped up 
> also. I have already been flamed for posting this list of sites that have
> macsbug versions 6.2.1 & 6.2.2 (old versions), yet ANYONE can get on these
> sites via ftp and ANYONE  could have found it via a archive probe so why
> am I flamed for posting what is know? If it is illegal to put programs
       ^^^^^^
The net is inhabited by creatures that have little knowledge of the
situtation, and flame accordingly. Don't worry to much about them.
They would probably have a cow to know that Resedit, the MPW shell, and
all system software from 5.something till 7.0.1 is also available.

And it's quite legal.

> such as these on ftp sites then why are they there, shouldn't these sites
> take the program off? What is wrong with this picture? Can companies
> that are in favor of copy protection post programs for access on ftp sites
> and still be against it?  
> 
>   HELP ME WITH THIS ONE.............

I think you have Apple confused with someone else! I've not run across any
copy protection from them, even from the few Claris products I've dealt 
with.

A snippet from ftp.apple.com, a file named README.FIRST in the dts 
directory:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
LEGAL ISSUES CONCERNING THE SOFTWARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE /ftp/dts
DIRECTORY.

Please note availability of this software for downloading is restricted to
the
United States ONLY.  In you are accessing this machine from outside the
United
States, please respect this notice and do NOT download any of the Software
contained within the /ftp/dts directory, with the exception of that
software
contained in the /ftp/dts/hacks directory and the /ftp/dts/lisp directory.

If you are located within the United States, before downloading any of the
Software within the /ftp/dts directory, you must first read and agree to
abide by the terms and conditions of the Apple Computer, Inc. Software
License Agreement located in the /ftp/dts/help/software-license.txt file.
------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Another snippet, this time from the license agreement:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apple Computer, Inc. Software License

PLEASE READ THIS LICENSE CAREFULLY BEFORE DOWNLOADING THE 
SOFTWARE.  BY DOWNLOADING AND/OR USING THE SOFTWARE, YOU 
ARE AGREEING TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE.  IF YOU 
DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE, YOU ARE NOT 
AUTHORIZED TO DOWNLOAD THIS SOFTWARE.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Guess what? Apple retains their copyrights to the software as part of
the license!! 

There, that should give you pointers to the pertainent files if you desire
the whole story, and it will shut up the flamers, too.

James
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