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From: grady@world.std.com (Dick Grady)
Subject: Re: slow service
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:37:45 GMT

In article <z8bnwlr@lynx.unm.edu> trubik@triton.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo) writes:
>Avoid the McDonalds in Big Spring, Texas.  I just spent the summer there
>(thesis research) and no matter what time it was, I always had to park
>and wait for my drive-thru order (~10 minutes avg.) to be brought out
>to me.  Counter service was even slower.  The good side to this is that
>the food was always just off the grill.

I'd much rather wait a few minutes for good hot food, than get 
something which has become soggy sitting behind the counter for a while.
Whenever I visit a McD's during non-rush hours, I always order my burger
"without pickle"; that way, they have to cook me a fresh one.
-- 
            Dick Grady               grady@world.std.com
From: jmoyer@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (John Charles Moyer)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Re: Hot Food?
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:59:11 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <2cGR022H20KY01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> beh10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger) writes:
>In article <19967@plains.NoDak.edu> bodie@plains.NoDak.edu (Justin M. Bodie) writes:
>>
>>
>>Gee, that's the way Burger King did it in Bemidji, Minnesota where I
>>worked a couple of years ago.  The only thing is, the burgers might stay
>>in the steamer for, say, upwards of an hour - the one I worked at didn't
>>care about quality...  I sure hope McD's doesn't go that way -- there is
>>DEFINITELY a loss of flavor, crispiness & freshness with Burger King's
>>method.  Oh, yeah, btw: B.K. used the microwaves for just about every sandwich
>>they sold.  (Including the cherry pies (yeah, I just remembered that BK
>>has great cherry pies))
>>
>
>Same exact strategy in Columbus, Ohio where I worked a few years ago.
>
>Incidently, is it true that ordering un-salted french fries no longer
>ensures a fresh batch because they always leave some fries unsalted?
>(This goes for McD's, BK, etc).
>
By the way I have worked at McD's 15 years (that long?). We never unsalted 
fries just to hold longer. If you are doing it right, you never serve cold
fries. Besides it is easier on the crew not to worry about it.They are working
on a baked cherry pie. Regarding cabinets, Like any system in this business (ie
BK,Mcd's,Wendys. The quality depends on the people who work there and more 
importantly if the owner or supervisor care enough to check. Only the meat and 
buns are kept in separate cabinets, the sandwich is assembled and 'q'ed 
(microwaved) when ordered by production call. Keep eye on bin cards though,
we still keep some product in bin. Also let me know about what you think about
this guarantee bit.
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From: kilroy@orac.holonet.net (Robert A. Miroballi)
Subject: Re: Cherry Pies
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:29:02 GMT

At  the McD's I work at we got rid of cherry pies because we're a test
market.  We have the Pizza abd we now have Baked Pies.  McD's in my area
are going to the Baked Pies.  When we started the pies there were no
cherry pies to bake.  They are testing the receipe and according to the
management newsletter, the cherry pie will be coming back.  (with some
others hopefully)

	McKilroy.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:27:05 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Re: Pet Peeves

In article <1992Aug27.164407.25307@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Kevin Anderson) says:
>
>I have been ordering quarter pounders without cheese since they
>started making them in the 1970s.  For some unexplained reason,
>a few years ago it became a special order item.  McMillions of
>people order quarter pounders without cheese.  Why do we have
>to wait?

OK, since you asked...

Because they aren't ordered enough to warrant making them and keeping them in
"the bin".  They are one of the most popular grill orders, but still, to cut
down on waste, they usually aren't made unless asked for.

Yes, I work at McDonalds.  No, I don't love the place, I'm just answering a
question.  Any more?

Sure, McDonalds isn't the best place to eat, so go somewhere else if you want
good food.  I need a job for the summer, so that's what I do.
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From: kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Kevin Anderson)
Subject: Pet Peeves
Keywords: xxx
Reply-To: kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:44:07 GMT

I have been ordering quarter pounders without cheese since they
started making them in the 1970s.  For some unexplained reason,
a few years ago it became a special order item.  McMillions of
people order quarter pounders without cheese.  Why do we have
to wait?
From: bodie@plains.NoDak.edu (Justin M. Bodie)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Cherry Pies
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:41:35 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


Hi all.

Maybe this should be under ".gripes," but I've noticed in the past few
months that McD's tasty cherry pies have all but disappeared!  (sniff)

Now all they seem to have is the ol' apple pies.  This goes for
Minnesota/North Dakota (well, every McD's I've visited) and even Thunder
Bay, Ontario.  The Thunder Bay McD's has McPizza though!  Didn't try it.

Anyone have any idea where I can find good fast food cherry pies?

Thanks,

Jutt :)
-- 
 ______________________________________________________________________________
 |=========> Justin M. Bodie <========== |  ...We're all a little looney...   |
 |Student: North Dakota State, Fargo, ND | Support Soccer's World Cup USA '94!|
 |===  email bodie@plains.nodak.edu  === |         Just say "Bison!"          |
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Re: Cherry Pies
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:35:56 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <19923@plains.NoDak.edu> bodie@plains.NoDak.edu (Justin M. Bodie) writes:


>Hi all.

>Maybe this should be under ".gripes," but I've noticed in the past few
>months that McD's tasty cherry pies have all but disappeared!  (sniff)

>Now all they seem to have is the ol' apple pies.  This goes for
>Minnesota/North Dakota (well, every McD's I've visited) and even Thunder
>Bay, Ontario.  The Thunder Bay McD's has McPizza though!  Didn't try it.

McDonald's pizza is disgusting. Not worthy of the name pizza, and all
*real* pizza lovers (and authentic pizza makers) should be royally
insulted that McD's is putting 4 shreds of cheese on a cracker and
calling that "pizza".

>Anyone have any idea where I can find good fast food cherry pies?

Sorry, I don't like their cherry pies either! I never even noticed
they were gone.

Complain to the management. If enough people complain, maybe they'll
bring 'em back.

>Thanks,

Yer welcome.

>Jutt :)
>-- 
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> |=========> Justin M. Bodie <========== |  ...We're all a little looney...   |
> |Student: North Dakota State, Fargo, ND | Support Soccer's World Cup USA '94!|
> |===  email bodie@plains.nodak.edu  === |         Just say "Bison!"
                                                            "Buffalo!"
    |
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: tacchi@next01.cc.umanitoba.ca. (Mark G. Tacchi)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Hot Food?
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:12:00 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


For those that don't know:

Here's a tip if you want hot fresh burgers.

Before placing your order, check the "bin" to see what number is behind the row  
of the burger of your choice.  They allow burgers to be kept for 10 min. in the  
bin and then trash them.  The number is placed in the bin at the time the  
burgers are and indicates the time at which the food should be thrown out.   
Sometimes they cheat a bit and keep them in the bin a little longer....you can  
catch this.

If the number is 1, 5, or 10  then the time the burger should be tossed is five  
after the hour, 25 after the hour, or ten to the following hour respectively.   
If you notice that the expiration has arrived and passed, simply order your  
burger with extra whatever or no whatever.  I like to order extra lettuce  
because they usually scrimp.  This will ensure that you get a fresh burger and  
the guy behind you will get the leather burger. :)

-Mark
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: bf883@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert A. Spearman)
Subject: Re: Cherry Pies
Reply-To: bf883@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert A. Spearman)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 23:42:15 GMT


In a previous article, bodie@plains.NoDak.edu (Justin M. Bodie) says:

>
>Hi all.
>
>Maybe this should be under ".gripes," but I've noticed in the past few
>months that McD's tasty cherry pies have all but disappeared!  (sniff)
>
>Now all they seem to have is the ol' apple pies.  This goes for
>Minnesota/North Dakota (well, every McD's I've visited) and even Thunder
>Bay, Ontario.  The Thunder Bay McD's has McPizza though!  Didn't try it.
>
>Anyone have any idea where I can find good fast food cherry pies?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jutt :)

> ______________________________________________________________________________

 I never knew they had cherry pie...they didn't where I worked.



>


-- 
Robert Spearman                     *   Have you ever had this much
University of Arkansas              *   space and not know what to  
Internet: rspearma@uafhp.uark.edu   *   do with it? ... ANSWER ME! 
IRCNICK PurplHaze                   *   Have a nice day :)              
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From: bongalon@tcad05.intel.com (Ben Bongalon)
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Reply-To: bongalon@tcad05.intel.com (Ben Bongalon)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:23:12 GMT


In article <1992Sep2.123531.22967@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>,
S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
|> What causes Deja-vu experiences?
|> 
|> Sometimes you think you recall the situation you're just in, you are
|> convinced that 'this has happened already', either in a dream or in
|> reality. But usually you can't state exactly how and when.
|> 
|> [stuff deleted]
|> 
|> 3. Actual precognition. By some means yet to be explained, your
|> consciousness can gain information of things yet to come. [Somebody
|> really should conceive a theory how that works!]

one way to verify this personally is to keep a daily log of your 
dreams and when a deja-vu experience occurs, scan your logbook for
documentation of that experience. (hopefully you documented that
particular dream).  as for myself i have had several deja-vus but
unfortunately i don't have logs for any of them.   :-(

btw, i'm not saying that all forms of precognition occurs as dreams--
they are probably just the most common form.

ben

Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
From: probst@selkirk.sfu.ca (Scott Probst)
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:20:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.123531.22967@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
>What causes Deja-vu experiences?
>
well, it's fashionable among brain-science types today to suppose that there
is some minor seizure of the temporal lobes, very very small but enough to
create some experience that has particular experiential components.

the pedigree of this idea seems basically to be that it is a modification of the
idea that anyone with religious or mystical experiences was a temporal-lobe
epileptic (tle); this dates back to the classic misdiagnosis (or so it seems) of
dostoevsky as a tle. in other words, there is not much more to go on on this
case than a lot of speculation. in the history of the research that i know of,
there has actually been only 1 case of a tle reporting an ecstatic aura that
may (or may not) be likened to what people refer to as mystical experiences.

a somewhat tangential response, but i so seldom get to talk about this stuff...

scott, sfu, vancouver.

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From: eepee@polaris.utu.fi (Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki)
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 14:36:28 GMT

I remember having read in some medical journal that deja vu is an epileptic
phenomenon, i.e. the mechanisms behind it are the same as in epilepsy, but
of course much milder. That's all I can remember, I didn't read the whole
article.

/ep
From: murphyg@Software.Mitel.COM (Gary Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:03:30 GMT
Followup-To: alt.consciousness
Organization: Applications Software II, MITEL Corporation, Kanata, Ontario,
	Canada
In-reply-to: S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de's message of 2 Sep 92 12:35:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.123531.22967@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:

   What causes Deja-vu experiences?

   Some possible explanations of this could be:

   1. Self-delusion.
   2. Corrupted memory.
   3. Actual precognition.
   4. Telepathy
   5. More exotic explanations

   Any comments?

Why not less exotic? One conjecture could invoke what we call
'certainty' (you know, the stuff psychological journals reek of, but
hard-science journals carefully avoid. ;-)).  No one can ever _know_ for
sure.  Even in the rigourous proofs of mathematics, those rare souls
with the time and patience to follow the formal logic very often find
some young mind comes up with That Missing Detail and the stars fall
from the firmament.  People do not use formal deduction in deciding what
Truth is, yet many believe they know anyway.

As anyone who has ever been dragged into a 'discussion' on
abortion/100th-monkey-theories/politics/psychotheology &c &c, will
recognize, we humans have a _feeling_ we _call_ Certainty, and when
paired with a subject, we will defend our stance regardless of any
facts.  It may be that Psychotherapy makes its living off simple
Pavlovian exercises to bind this Certainty first to the therapist, and
then to the therapist's 'insights'.

Now, as humans, we know, if we care to notice, feelings only _tend_ to
correlate with the outside world.  What happens when a feeling of
certainty occurs as a system-glitch?  Same as happens when a
sadness-wave or a giggle-wave or whatever hits: we invent a reason.

Perhaps a particular flavour of Certainty accesses
visual/auditory/kinesthetic cues.  Where there are _some_ valid cues,
memory tries its very best to complete the image (in a connectionist
sense) and trips links to a sensory-hooked Certainty. The brain says,
"this is a Certain Recollection of Being Here!" but memory has no trace
of any real event.  The solution?  Generate a memory, fast.  The
interesting thing is, we _recognize_ Deja Vu.  We don't even confuse it
with the sensation of returning to places we haven't seen since early
childhood:  We intuitively know there is something wrong with the
recollection.

Another good question would be how one might test Deja Vu experiences to
decide the cause.  I would also be interested in testing the role of
sensations of certainty in 'past-life/early childhood regression' and
other pseudo-memories.

--
Gary Lawrence Murphy - Gary.Murphy@software.mitel.COM - (613) 592-2122 x3709
           "The present moment is a powerful goddess" - Goethe
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
From: jgn@vixen.uucp (22122-niederberger)
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 13:31:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.123531.22967@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
>What causes Deja-vu experiences?
>
>Sometimes you think you recall the situation you're just in, you are
>convinced that 'this has happened already', either in a dream or in
>reality. But usually you can't state exactly how and when.
>
>Some possible explanations of this could be:
>
>1. Self-delusion. One little bit of the situation may be similar to
>something that has really happened, and you add the other parts in
>your memory wrongly. [I don't think it is that easy to explain.]
 
9. Short-circuit. 

How is it we know that we've just "used" our memory?  That is, how is
it that I am self-aware of doing memory fetches?  If I postulate a
memory register that says, in effect, "this data was just
retrieved from memory", then when that register is stimulated we have
the sensation of having just retrieved something from memory.

Now if that register is stimulated by mistake (i.e., no memory fetch
actually occurs, but the "sensation" of doing a memory fetch is
stimulated) then we are likely to conflate what we are currently
experiencing with something dug out of memory.

This may explain why Deja-Vu is usually just a vague feeling. When it
happens to me its not as though I can connect the ghostly "memory" to
other memories, as I can when I actually retrieve a memory (i.e., if I
remember something, then usually I can also remember related things
with a little more effort).


We can guess at reasons why the "fetching from memory" sensation could
be stimulated mistakenly, and Olaf's #1 theory suggests one plausible
reason.


BTW, this is pure speculation (as if you hadn't guessed).  Is there
anyway to test this?  

Peace,

Joe N.
From: v051l27e@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (CHRIS COURTENAY)
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Summary: something salient, shortly stated, sadly seldom satoric
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:01:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BtyEo4.Lss.1@cs.cmu.edu>, dwp+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Philips) writes...
>In article <1992Sep2.123531.22967@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
>+Some possible explanations of this could be:
>+1. Self-delusion.
>+2. Corrupted memory.
>+3. Actual precognition.
>+4. Telepathy could also be involved...
>+5. More exotic explanations could feature memories from a past life or
>+some nonhuman force manipulating our mind, among others.
> 
>I read somewhere, about 2 years ago (give or take a few months), a
>proposed explanation which was something along the lines that Deja Vu
>could be linked to a physical brain phenomina in which the sensory signals
>are delayed or misrouted, so that the same signals are actually received
>twice.  I cannot recall any more details, nor can I remember where I read
>the article, who wrote it, etc.  Hopefully this'll sound familiar to
>someone else.  

Probably in your PSY 101 class. That's where I found exactly the same 
information. 


-chris
From: II70038@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jonathan A. Kimball)
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:00:39 GMT
 <MURPHYG.92Sep2150330@murphyg.Software.Mitel.COM>
Organization: University of Maine System

I've just read this deja-vu thread.  Gary Murphy's 'certainty' theory is
one of the most interesting to me, but how's this for an idea:
(a couple of explanations were similar but not quite) The sense of recognition
is the result of a 'match' between the current event and the, just made,
memory of that event.  There is normally a mechanism to prevent this
premature recognition from happening but when it fails we experience deja-vu.
The reason we are often unable to make apparent associations to this 'memory'
is that any associations are the same as those made to the current event, and
therefore become 'correctly' attributed to the current event rather than the
'memory'.  (Don't confuse this with Joe N.'s 'short-circuit' theory.)

As I said above, Gary Murphy's 'certainty' explanation is interesting, but
here is one problem I have with it:  My general experience of deja-vu is
something like, "Wait a minute!  Has this happened before?????????(not very
certain at all:))"  So I guess I would change his theory by saying that
rather than a feeling certainly we have a feeling of recognition.
(Obvious right?)  Where I agree is that this feeling may be mistriggered and
the brain must produce an explanation for it.

                                    Jonathan A. Kimball
                                    II70038 at MAINE.BITNET
                                    II70038 at maine.maine.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:24:21 EDT
From: <JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
Subject: Re: Deja Vu

     About the "someone should come up with an explaination for this (re: Pre-
 cognition)" thang...

     What if dreams are the product of your mind wildly hypothesizing about
 potential futures (all right, so it would only be _some_ dreams).  Given that
 it doesn't try things that are totally unreal, you've a chance (however slim)
 of actually dreaming about a real event before it happens.

     The problem with this is that it doesn't (completely) account for the pre-
 cognition of totally unknown or unseen events, people, etc.
                                                 - Jonathan
From: dwp+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Philips)
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Summary: something salient, shortly stated, sadly seldom satoric
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:55:10 GMT
Organization: EIEI-U

In article <1992Sep2.123531.22967@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
+Some possible explanations of this could be:
+1. Self-delusion.
+2. Corrupted memory.
+3. Actual precognition.
+4. Telepathy could also be involved...
+5. More exotic explanations could feature memories from a past life or
+some nonhuman force manipulating our mind, among others.

I read somewhere, about 2 years ago (give or take a few months), a
proposed explanation which was something along the lines that Deja Vu
could be linked to a physical brain phenomina in which the sensory signals
are delayed or misrouted, so that the same signals are actually received
twice.  I cannot recall any more details, nor can I remember where I read
the article, who wrote it, etc.  Hopefully this'll sound familiar to
someone else.

-Doug
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Reply-To: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:24:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.123531.22967@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
|> What causes Deja-vu experiences?
|> 
|> Sometimes you think you recall the situation you're just in, you are
|> convinced that 'this has happened already', either in a dream or in
|> reality. But usually you can't state exactly how and when.
|> 
|> Some possible explanations of this could be:
[...]
|>
|> Any comments?

By coincidence I heard a discussion of this topic last week by 
a physiological psychologist.  Besides the possibilities listed,
there are a couple of others:

--How do you know whether an image is "current" or a memory?  One
hypothesis is that the "memory" is "labeled" such.  If that label
is lost, this might be a flashback.  If a real time image is
improperly marked "memory", then it might give the feeling that
the "current" image is the same as one from memory.

--You are frequently faced with situations that are at least
PARTLY similar to previous ones.  (E.g., the room you are in
is similar in many ways to other rooms you have been in in the
past.)  If a new situation somehow matches a previously encountered
one enough, one might "feel" that you had encountered it before.
Note that matches on particularly important aspects of the
situation would be very noticable, as when you meet someone that
you feel you have met before.  Note also, that a slight "glitch"
in the "matching program" could produce the feeling that something
had been encountered before, rather than simply similar to
a previous event.  This theory would predict a continuum of
deja-vu-ish feelings.

-- 
  Robert E. McGrath
  Urbana Illinois
  mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
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