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From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Zombie Dude)
Subject: Re: "malar" paadalgal.
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:53:36 GMT

In article <1gr49kINNbh6@menudo.uh.edu> Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu> writes:
>malar and its variances:
>[1] malare, malare theriyathO  [movie: thEn nilavu]
>[2] malarnthum malaraatha [movie: paasa malar]
>[3] malarkalaip pOl thangai [movie: paasa malar]
>[4] malarE, kurinji malarE [movie: doctor siva]
>[5] poove, pooch chooda vaa [movie: poove pooch chooda vaa]
>[6] pookkalaithaan parikkaatheenga [movie: ???]
>[7] poovil vandu koodum [movie: kaathal Oviyam]
>[8] poove nee yaar cholli [movie: ???]
>[9] poove, chempoove [movie:???]  
			Solla thudikidhu manasu

>[10] poovizhi vaasalil vanthu [movie: deepam]

	Malara malare then vendum [ Idhaya Kani ]
	Poo pookum maasam thai maasam [ Varusham 16 ]
	Poovukku poovaale [ ? ]
	Poojaikerththa poovidhu [ ? ]
	Pudhiya poovidhu poorthadhu [ Thenrale ennai thodu ]

J Anand.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Fundamental Questions.
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:59:27 GMT

In <1992Dec18.192936.1910@msus1.msus.edu> manohar@msus1.msus.edu writes:

>In article <BzGw2z.82q@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca writes:
>> Present Caste based reservation (CBR) in Tamil Nadu:
>> 
>> 1. Is backward caste synonymous to 'all except Brahmins'? One gets
>> that impression as opposition is almost uniquely from Brahmins.
>> 
>  Sorry for reposting , what I'd wanted to say (and this got cut out from my
>previous message ) was that other forward castes in TN like Saiva
>Mudaliar and Karakharthar are numerically too insignificant and their
>being a minority within the minority of forward castes could be a 
>reason why they are not as vocal as the brahmins.

>A.Rammanohar

>> K. Srinivasan  at Hydro Quebec   srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca

  The problem is not that. There is a desperation created by
the manu code or whatever in our society. Most brahmins
only want do jobs that does not involve physical labour.

   Things have changed slowly for good. Some of them have been
motivated rather driven to do somerthing enterprising or some
jobs like starting hotels etc. People who
did tradional jobs are changing for survival.


Kathiravan.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sr@cs.brown.edu (Sridhar)
Subject: Tamil movie songs; lyrics request
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Brown University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:20:50 GMT

I posted this in rec.music.indian.misc without any luck. Perhaps I will
be more successful here.

Can someone please post the lyrics (and also please send me email) for
the following songs: 

1. Idhu kuzhandai paadum thalattu (from Oru Thalai Ragam, I think)

2. Oru pennai parthu malarai parthen, malaril oli illai (dunno about
movie :( )

3. Paadu nilave, then kavidai, un paadalai naan ketkiran... (from Udhaya
Geetam. )

Thanks a lot for your time and patience. Please remember to send me
email also, if you post the lyrics. Thanks a lot again.

--Sridhar.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor)
Subject: Points to Ponder (Fake Degrees)
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:17:19 GMT


There are more interesting things in this India Today article other than
the Tamil-angle.

For example:

- CUNY is included in the list of univs granting fake degrees.

- The agencies operating in India have filed 18 suits *AGAINST*  USEFI
  to gain credibility ...         

and, the best quote...

 "It is difficult to say if it is a fake degree from a genuine university or
   a genuine degree from a fake university.."

My question:

How much time would it be before the enterprising Indian spirit decides
to re-publish the Journals, with authorship for sale.

Rajat Kapoor

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: "Meenakshi S Murali" <p00239@psilink.com>
Subject: Testing ...
Organization: Complete Business Solutions Inc.,
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:13:36 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

pardon me guys.

just testin...

M.Murali
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (R. Sritharan)
Subject: Re: Solution to Ayodhya problem, by TN chief minister.
Keywords: Ayodhya, Tami nadu
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:39:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.184926.4629@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara) writes:
>
>
>In article <Bz3uGK.Fx6@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> rst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (R. Srithar
>an) writes:
>>
>>Yeah, similar to the humour that Sankarapandi provided when
>>he pointed out that certain faculty members were hired at
>>IIT, Madras just beacuse they are Brahmins :-)
>>
>>Oh, boy! :-) is such an effective tool!
>>
>>-- rst
>
>     Oh, boy! my humour has hit you so strongly :-).
>
>    There are two people who asked me to give the details about the Brahmin 
>domination and sent them my replies.  I do not want to post them in the 
>newsgroup because it will embarass you (even humour hits you) more.  Moreover,
>the affectyed people still have to survive in IITM.
>
>If you want I will mail it to you personnally.  Or you ask any of your buddy
>from IITM.
>
>S. Sankarapandi
>
>
>S. Sankarapandi

Please post it in the net. If the Brahmins are cheating
in IIT, Madras, then everyone should know about it. 

Besides, I think it is only fair that you post the whole 
story in the net, not just the initial accusations.

I don't see why you would sympathize with the people
who have no scruples. So, you may post the whole story without
naming the ones that are affected BUT naming the culprits
so that everyone would know the truth.

BTW, rest assured that I will not be embarassed. So, if
you decide not to post, please give some other excuses.

-- rst
From: P.Manian@cm.cf.ac.uk (P Manian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Need the verses to 'Sithi mantharam thulasi'
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:14:07 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK

I would appreciate it very much if someone out there could send me the verses for the song
'Sithi manthaaram thulasi, Pitchi kamalaigal saathi, Guruvayuurappa ninne kanne nam.

I need the remaining verses of the song.

Also the verses for the songs

PulAnguzhal kudutha mUnghilkallae,
	Yengal purushothaman pugzhal paadungallae.

and

Gobiyare, Gobiyare, konjum illam wanjiyare,
	Govindan payarai solli, kummi kotti aadungallae.


Thanks.
p.manian@cm.cf.ac.uk
From: gopals@astro.umd.edu (N. Gopalswamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Forgot part of a poem
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:53:25 GMT
Organization: U. of Maryland @ College Park, Astronomy

I can not complete the poem posted by Parthasarathy. The poet is
SOmasundara Barathi who is not regarded as a great poet
because of dryness in his poems and undue importance to
ethukai, mOnai etc.

gopal
From: elee6eg@rosie.uh.edu (S.SANJAY GOPAL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: "nila" paadalgal.
Date: 17 Dec 1992 23:45 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

..
.
>[5] vaaraayO veNNilavE, kElayo [movie: missiamma]
>[6] vaa veNNilaa unnaithane [movie: mella thiranthathu kadhavu]
>[7] vaanilE then nilaa [movie: kaakkich chattai]
>[8] vaan nilaa nilaa [movie: pattinap pravesam]
>[9] nilaak kaayuthu neram nalla [movie: paayum puli]
                                        ,............,

that was sagalakala vallavan!


>[10] vaanil muzhu madhiyai kandEn [movie: ???]
>[11] veNNilave, veNNilave [movie: vanchik kOttai vaaliban]
> Feel free to add more.
> 
>Cheers,
>Venkat

regards

sanjay



Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
Subject: Re: yuga purushan - correction.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:09:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.235616.19045@unislc.uucp> tss@unislc.uucp (Srinivasan Thothathri) writes:
>Dear Mr Sankarapandian,
>
>	The poem "pAttukkoru pulavan..." is NOT written by Naamakkal kavignar!!
>It was actually written by Kavimani Desika Vinaayagam Pillai..
>

	I was the one who mentioned that "pAttukkoru pulavan..." was
	written by Naamakkal kavignar. Thanks for correcting. I rememberd
	few verses written by various poets on Bharathi, but got confused
	with who wrote which. The verses of Namakkal Kavignar are:


	padiththaRiyaa miga Ezhaik kizhavanEnum
           Bharathiyin paattisaikkak  kEtpaanagil
	thudiththezhundhu than melindha thOLaik kotti
	   thuLaimigundha kandhaludaic churukkik katti

	eduththeRiya vENdum indha adimai vaazhvai
           ikkanamE ippOdhE enRenRaartheengu
	adiththuraiththE aavEsam koLvaanenRaal
	   appaattin perumai sola yaarO vallaar.


	
M. Sundaramoorthy
sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: minnal varigaL - 43
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:09:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47472
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


	"erumbu thOlai uriTHup pArKa yAnai vandhadhada! - en
	 idhayath thOlai uriTHup pArKa gnanam vandhadhada!
	 pirakkum munnE irundha uLLam indru vandhadhada!
	 irandha pinnay varum amaidhi vandhu vittadhada!!"
	
	 From "satti suttadhada, kai vittadhada..."

	 Contributed by Senthil Kumar.

	 Posted by Srikanth Meenakshisundaram.
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Contributions Welcome. Please send YOUR minnal varigaL to
kanth@cse.ogi.edu. Anecdotes or personal experiences that
directly relate to the minnal varigaL are also welcome.
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From: ssr@siberia.cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: EVR supporters = KKK of Tamilnadu.
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:26:40 GMT
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Originator: ssr@bubba


I consider EVR supporters to be the KKKlanners of Tamilnadu.  LOSERS !!



-- 
Bapcha
3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
From: mots@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Srini S Rajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Hi-Madhu, here are the lyrics!!
Date: 15 Dec 1992 16:19:01 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: Madurayai Meetta...

tss@unislc.uucp (Srinivasan Thothathri) writes:


>Movie: Madurayai meetta sundara pandiyan...

>	Thangathil mugameduthu santhanathil udaleduthu
>	Mangaiyenru vandirukkum malaroo?
>	Nee Maalai nera pon manjal nilavO?

>	Thangathil mugameduthu santhanathil udaleduthu
>	Kaaman pola vandirukkum vadivO?
>	Antha deva lOga mannavanum neeyO?

--------  This song is from the movie "Meenava Nanban"

srini

>Next song in the same movie,

>	Thendralilaadum koondalil kanndEn mazhai koNa mEgam..
>	En Devadai amudam sinthgidum nEram ini enna naaNam?

>Next song in the same movie,

>	Amuda tamizhil ezhudum kavidai, pudumaippulavan nee!!


>Movie: Naalai Namde!!

>	Kaadal enbathu kaaviamaanaal kadaanaayaki Vendum..

-- 
mottaisreeni-->motseeni-->mots
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: chitoor@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Srikrishnan R. Chitoor)
Subject: Re: Kuram Narayana on Periyar
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:51:53 GMT

In article <kat.724630901@kehleyr> kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>    I am sending a personal mail you sent me when you supported jeyaa
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>in argument against me and sankarapaaNdi. I gave reasons for not
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Please be specific as to who sent you this mail. As far as I know
I have not sent you any mail. If you do say that I have sent you the mail,
it is absolutely ridiculous. Either it has been `rigging' or you are
lying.
   If you still maintain that I sent you a mail, please post the
full mail.
   The header of the mail says `University of Texas at Austin'
and I belong to University of Delaware.
   (i) If it were `rigging', the mails Sankarapandi received
       could also belong to the same category, and this indicates
       that someone wants to spoil the discussions in SCT.

   (ii) IF you made up the mail, I have something to say. 
        It shows the amount of length people will go to personally
        degrade others who do not follow their arguments. Also, *IF*
        you made up the mail, it just shows your stpidity at forging
        mails because you have left the organisation as `University
        of Texas at Austin'. Next time try to do a better job.

  In the follwing I have underlined the Organisation field in the
mail you supposedly received from me.

>liking her. makaa makam, pouring acid on chandra(lady IAS officer), harrassing my own people.
>violence against press. If you are warped towards jeyaa there is no cure!
>Then you say I am a male chauvinist. You are a jeyaa flauntist perhaps!
>*******************************88*****************************
>Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Cc: 
>Status: OR
>
>B
>Jeya is doing a very good job and there is no doubt about her deserving any credit
>for it.  She has rationale thinking and is educated a person.(Unlike other politicians
>who have honorary doctorates only.).  She has implemented several welfare schemes for
>welfare of people(part. women).  She has kept peace, not only the Ayodhya issue but
>cleansing TN of militants/violence.  If you do not brace yourself for facts, there
>can be no reason in you.  
>
>
>I am not a Jaya fan.  But she is the best of the Worst for TN.
>
>
>
>
>If you doubt it, ask your folks/neighbours how they feel living in TN now compared to 
>a few years back.  I as Madrasi know for sure that we can walk freely without Srilankan
>waylaying/looting/stabbing which prev. before.  The massive mandate is not blind 
>support.(Remember you can win support of some people for sometime, but winning a massive support means a revolution for TN.).  If you still think Jaya is unfit you are a male
>Chauvinist perhaps..........................cc:
>
>
>  Kathiravan 

-Krishna.
Opinions are mine.
From: K.Elango@frec.bull.fr (Elango K)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: info reqd.
Keywords: books, songs, cassettes
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:31:09 GMT
Reply-To: K.Elango@frec.bull.fr
Organization: Bull S.A. Echirolles.,France

>I am going to India in a few days. I want some info about the following things.
>
>1. Tell me a good place in Madras to record Tamil songs from. The quality
>should be good and they should have most of the songs I may ask for. (I
>ask some really vague ones at times). If the cost is a bit high, its OK.

   There is a shop called "stereo vision" in Madras. It is in the Mount road.
   (somewhere  in betweeen the 'HINDU' office and GPO) The nearest bus stop is
   "India silks". There you can get recorded, even the Thiyagaraja bagavather
   period songs. But they take atleast a week time to do the recording.
   Rs 40 per cassette was the charge I paid in February this year. 
   
>2. Where can I buy pre-recorded Tamil song cassettes? Do they have
>old films' songs in cassettes. How about 70's songs, like Nizhalgal etc.

   You can get the pre-recorded Tamil song cassettes. But the quality of the
   casstete will be poor.

>3. Tell me some good Tamil books to buy. I feel a bit ashamed that though I
>have read a decent no of good English books, I havent read even a single
>good Tamil book. Only ones I have read are all those Sankarlal, Thamizhvanan
>detective novels which I used to read when I was in 6th, 7th etc.
>Once again where can I buy them? When I say Tamil books please dont
>suggest some very old ones like, Manimekalai etc. I mean modern ones which
>I can read and understand.
	You can go for the novels by Sujatha or Balakumaran.
        The novels by the old writers like Thi.Janakiraman & kalki
        are really good. But If you don't have the taste for that kind
       of novels, it may be boaring. Some novels of the Telugu writer
       endamoori veerandhiranath are translated into Thamil by 
       one "susila kanagha dhurga". They are also really good. 


Elango.K
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From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Kuram Narayana on Periyar
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:39:58 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <1992Dec13.235315.21235@zip.eecs.umich.edu> raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani) writes:
>In article <kat.724288073@reg>, kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>|> In <1992Dec13.213148.22568@wuecl.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:
>|> 
>|> >      That does make periyar a racist and I do not see anything wrong
>|> >with KT's statement except that he could have probably included
>|> >some justifications to his statements. It is really sad that there 
>|> >are people supporting racists.
>|> 
>|> 
>|>      The aryan racist of the net for whom everything springs from
>|> aryavartha and who spends a lot of bandwidth in his racist claims.
>|> Do not dream of spreading your supremacy-hatred venom all over.
>|> 
>|> Kathiravan.
>|> 
>
>Just hold it before you call someone a racist! I see nothing in the statement
>that even suggests a racist or Aryan-supremacist leaning. As regards Periyar,
>there is this statement that is quite commonly attributed to Periyar. He is 
>supposed to have said something like "if you see a snake and a brahmin on the
>road, kill the brahmin first". Of course he didn't use those words - he talked
>about "pambu" (snake) and "paapan" (brahmin) - but it was *supposedly* something 
>to that effect. 
>
>Now, if Periyar really said that, could someone please explain to me why I 
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>shouldn't conclude that Periyar was a racist.
>
>Raghu

      Raghu, you have a valid point if Periyaar had said. Even otherwise
      this is essentially correct - that some communities were singled out
      for hating. It is racism pure and simple.

      Please answer me honestly these: If a community preaches hatred 
      towards other communities and follow it up with discriminatory
      practices, would it be wrong to preach against this community?
      If a community and some collaborators have an establishment
      which oppresses the vast majority of fellow citizens, would it be
      wrong to oppose this establishment ? 

      Periyaar or his followers were said to have cut the sacred thread of
      Brahmins and cut kudumis( tufts) and even smashed idols- these 
      are despicable
      acts without any doubt. But should we also not consider the 
      whiplashes and blood dripping, brutal rapes, denial of basic rights
      and education to the masses at that time. Periyaar was a social reformer.
      
      
 
      If you oppose those who discriminate, you too then practice
      discrimination ! This is the category Periyaar belongs, I think.
      Honesty is more important than intellectual virtuosity in these
      matters IF we want to UNDERSTAND. I believe that only when all these
      communal feelings die or become unimportant will we really 
      walk with giant steps.
      
      -Selva 
      
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand)
Subject: Question on Periyar's ancestory
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:51:45 GMT

>there is this statement that is quite commonly attributed to Periyar. He is 
>supposed to have said something like "if you see a snake and a brahmin on the
>road, kill the brahmin first". Of course he didn't use those words - he talked
>to that effect. 
>
	This was the first time I heard such a thing about Periyar. If 
	he had really said that then I have no doubt in my mind that 
	Periyar was a thevidiya paiyyan. As simple as that. His mom
	was a whore.

J Anand.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: arbi@charles.polymer.uakron.edu (The Dude)
Subject: king of spring
Organization: Institute of Polymer Science, University of Akron
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:16:11 GMT

i have been wanting to post this song for a while now, but then two references
to it on the same day, and boy, it's here:

	neengal kEttavai
	ilayaraaja
	spb, jaanaki
	vairamuthu

O vasandha raaja thEn sumandha rOjaa
en dhEgam, un dhEsam ennALum sandhOsham
en dhaagangal theerndhida nee piRandhayO?

men panju mEgangal; un pinjup paadhangal
maN thottadhal inRu, sevvaanam pOlaachu
ViN sorggamE poi poi, en sorggam nee pennE (2)
soodiya poocharam vaanavil dhaanO?

aaraadhanai nEram, aalaabanai raagam
alai paayudhE mOgam, analaanadhE dhEgam
en mEgamE vaa vaa, idhazh neeraith thoovu (2)
manmadhak kOyilil paal abishegam

peace an' luv,
arbi
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From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Subject: Who controls Tamil Nadu?
Originator: srini@acr
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:18:12 GMT

It looks like many think that Brahmins control Tamil Nadu TODAY.
[It should really be re-phrased as "It looks like many think that people
who control Tamil Nadu TODAY are Brahmins". The former statement
would be meaningful only if they acted in unison, like a political party.]

Highest importance in the world today:
1. Economic control: Is there a list of richest people in Tamil Nadu?
That should be easier to get than average income or assets of communities.

Second highest importance in the world today:
2. Political control: How can a minority control majority under a
one person one vote democratic system?
[ ex. if Jeya goes against the majority, she WILL be thrown out next time.]

All other forms of control: education, religion, media are only the 'means'
to achieve the two above. Let us first see if the primary control is valid.
Please do not post 'feelings'. If you have facts please do.

K. Srinivasan  at Hydro Quebec   srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: murali@algol.cs.umbc.edu (MURALI PANDIAN)
Subject: SUDRA LEADERS FRIENDSHIP WITH ...
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:56:42 GMT

Hi,
  There is a lot of differences between the BRAMINS and the BRAMINISM.
Even EVR was opposing Braminism not Bramins.So I don't find any wrong with ,
any Dravidan party leaders having friendship with the Bramin leaders.

-sm
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: CBSF20@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Mateen Hussain)
Subject: Re: Travel in India (unaffected region)
Organization: Motorola
Date: 14 Dec 1992 15:09:59 CST

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