HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wolff@zen.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux and OS/2
Date: 2 Jan 93 10:07:11 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering

jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.174352.4550@gallant.apple.com> erwin#m#_mike.ast_-_tac_mail_server@msgate.corp.apple.com (Mike Erwin) writes:
>>
>>You can't run another whole operating system inside of another

>Try telling this to the VM people down the hall!

Both of you are right: A well designed processor CAN run a whole 
new OS in a VM handled by another OS. However Intel F..ks up processor
design every once in a while, and makes this kind of "tricks" impossible.
(they screp up with about the same frequency that they bring out new
processors)

The "go into 32 bit mode" instruction is nicely protected. This would 
enable a VM handler to start software emulating 32 bit mode extra bits.
However to do this you need an "invalid operation" fault every time the
inferior process tries to modify bits that modify the processor privelige.
Now this fault is simply "ignored" by the intel processors.

					Roger
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EMail:  wolff@duteca.et.tudelft.nl   ** Tel  +31-15-783644 or +31-15-142371
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ashtray@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (John Newnham)
Subject: Re: Disk Defragger???
Summary: yes
Organization: you have got to be kidding!
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:40:47 GMT

In article <1g2lduINNd0v@menudo.uh.edu> wjin@cs.uh.edu (W. Woody Jin) writes:
>In article <1g1c5cINNp8q@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> gbh@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Da Hubster!!!) writes:
>>Is there a disk defragger avaible for Linux???
>
>As far as I know, NO.
>
>I believe that file system should do it automatically, like 

I believe that there are at least two.  I do not have the details here (this
machine has /home 99% full *sigh*) but I will grab the details some time.
It would be best to send me a reminder by email if you want a reply b4 feb!
Better still, search the comp.os.linux archives.  That's where I got my info
from.

ashtray
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 [Humpty Dumpty to Alice (Lewis Carroll)]
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  There is no god!  The universe just got into bad habits. (Marcus Voght)
From: fiji@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ben Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Help
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:13:05 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


	I have a slight problem in that I crashed my Linux due to my folly.  I
tried to set my modem up for dial in, but accidentally set the baud rate too
high for getty so it would only log me in until it next tried to run getty
i.e. only 30 or so secs and then it logged me back to he login.  I tried
killing it to no avail.  So I renamed it and rebooted (oops).  I was then 
unable to get in at all.  So I downloaded the root/boot pair from tsx-11
and rawrited them and tried mounting but that gave a seg fault and dumped core.
Does anyone know why mount crashed?  
		Thanks, Ben Bennett.
-- 
	This was the opinion of my hands and not necessarily the remainder
 of my body.  The remainder of Ben Bennett (Fiji@wpi.edu) can not be held 
 responsible for anything typed above.
From: unger@thorin.swb.de (Juergen Unger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: List of Broken/Fixed Binaries in 0.99 [v1.00]
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 00:05:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: home of the dwarves

tfoley@camaro (Tim Foley) writes:
> Below is an un-official list of programs which break under 0.99 (or 0.98.6)
> and the method to get them running again.  I felt there was a great need
> for such a thing.
[list deleted]

are these problems fixes in the
SLS0.99, or do I have to do it on my own ?

  -Juergen-

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: amir@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Guindehi Amir)
Subject: Re: ps in linux .99p1 broken?
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 04:27:36 GMT

Same at me, ps,fstat and top dos'nt work with 99p1. Do you have tried the
posted fstat.diff.tar.Z ? I will do tomarrow ! ;-)

- Amir
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: cc, gcc question.
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:46:10 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


 
  I'm trying to compile spider, copied from my spark. 
  'cc' reports parse errors in 1)Xlib.h, 2) Xutil.h
  I transfered Xlib.h from Spark, and error's gone,
  however, Xutil still have some bugs in it. Having
  looked at file itself I could not find enything 
  suspicious - cc reports parse error at sertain line 
  before 'XPointer', saying that at line 178 parse
  (or might be sintax) error before 'XPointer', 
  then it says 'warning: semicolon missed' at the
  same (!) line, but it's there. And so on.
  
  Did anybody have the same - or it's just me, stupid:)
 
  I'm using SLS 98.5, btw, an attempt to compile
  'seyon' gave the same results - a lot of parse
  errors without a visible cause.


 S.B.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dshaker@qualix.com (Doug Shaker)
Subject: Re: LINUX, Unix, and opportunity for change
Reply-To: dshaker@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:40:07 GMT

in california, if you write it on your equipment during your own hours,
and using your own ideas (i.e., you don't use your employer's trade
secrets), then it is yours, no matter what your contract says.

In article 26745@netcom.com, messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes:
>goer@ellis.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz) writes:
>
>>mleech@bnr.ca (Marcus Leech) writes:
>>>
>>>Were it not for the fact that I have a job where everything I create is
>>>  owned by my employer, I'd be as busy as Linus; contributing, rather
>>>  than just pontificating.  [Though it's certainly not unheard-of around
>>>  here to be able to release freeware, just rather rare].
>
>>Did you actually sign a contract that gives them rights to code you cut
>>at home during off hours?  If so, I'm quite amazed.  Perhaps I'm just
>>naive, but this sounds like a form of slavery.  I hope they pay you a
>>king's ransom.
>
>That is actually a common practice in many companies.  Of course, you may
>argue that court might not uphold such broad definition.  Nevertheless,
>I have seen it in contracts (and have singed at least one).
>
>t.




Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: george@ve7frg.ampr.org (George Farris)
Subject: Re: A proposal for organizing comp.os.linux. [NEW-CHANNELS]
Organization: G.M. Systems
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:26:21 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

>
>However, if a few of the louder voices on comp.os.linux really wanted
>to, we could still split comp.os.linux this week. Instead of splitting
>it according to the normal Usenet voting procedures, split it into the
>alt groups. Alt groups don't require a vote - a week's discussion on
>alt.config seems to be sufficient.

Anyone who even suggests splitting these kinds of groups up and putting
them on alt.whatever should be reminded that, NOT ALL OF US RECEIVE ALT
GROUPS.  So please don't even think about it.  With the traffic on the
net increasing so rapidly the alt groups will be one of the first to be
dropped from many sites.

Just my two cents worth, sorry for shouting :-)

-- 

==========================================================================
George Farris - VE7FRG          Internet  :  george@ve7frg.ampr.org
                                 Amprnet  :  george@ve7frg.ampr.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: gisie@wam.umd.edu (Satan)
Subject: LILO
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:44:46 GMT

Thanks to all for helping me with FDISK <duh - I did some further
reading and found it in the FAQ>

Does anyone know if LILO will mess up the Windows NT boot loader?
Or will it let you choose NT, DOS or LINUX?

Thanks <again>
Tim

-- 
gisie@wam.umd.edu
"How will these windows affect my final document?"
From: slt25@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Problem on Linux and Two IDE hard drives
Date: 25 Dec 92 18:02:01 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hi:

I    I am a beginner of linux. I just tried to install linux .99 on my
486-Dx50 pc with 8 MB, ATI vgawonder XL24, one floppy and two IDE hard
disk(130MB,203MB). I am not sure the manufacturer of the IDE controller.
(Should be MAXTOR the HardDisks are MAXTOR).
    After I tried. I succeed to boot up the system on the other machine
with only one hard disk (the same config, but only one 130MB harddrive.)
using a1 and a2 from SLS. But I failed to do so on my machine which has
two hard drives.
    It hangs after the following have been found by the system
ttys0,ttys1,the microsoft mouse bus,the ATI inport mouse bus.
It seems that the problem is due to the linux can't find the second
IDE drive. Is it possible the IDE control card can't drive two hard
drives? But it works well under dos.
    Any suggestions or solutions please.
    Thanks in advance.

Changyi Sun
    E-mail address slt25@cc.usu.edu


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: johnsonm@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: linux 0.99 patchlevel 1
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN  USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:00:35 GMT


In article <1992Dec22.084637.20028@netcom.com> zmbenhal@netcom.com (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim) writes:
   >
   > - completed /proc-fs: it should now contain all info needed by 'ps'
   >   (Micheal K Johnson). 

   How about documenting it :-) Never mind, I'll wait for Michael to figure it out.

This /will/ get documented.  I need to do two things first:
 1) make a few tiny bug fixes (don't panic -- it won't crash, there
    are just a few places where I am not sure that the numbers are
    right.
 2) finish writing my /proc-based ps.  It is almost complete, and I am
    just debugging it and finishing fixing /proc at the same time.  I
    hope to have it out by the time linux 1.0 is released, or shortly
    thereafter. 

   Now the MFAQ: getting ps to work.
   simple doing ps -U sort of works but doesn't print the command line just the
   command name. doing ps -U Image /dev/swap results in bad magic number.

This are exactly the problems that my ps will address.  NO more ps
recompiles every time you recompile the kernel.  (only to fix bugs in
ps ;-)

michaelkjohnson
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Re: "No free inodes - contact linus" 0.99pl0 kernel
Keywords: Linux, kernel problem
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:01:26 GMT

In article <arumble.725111999@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> arumble@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Anthony Rumble) writes:
>I get this coming up a few times while I was under X running
>some applications..
>
>"no free inodes - contact linus"
>
>What does this mean???

The standard 0.99 kernel has allocated only 128 inodes for the whole
system: this has served surprisingly well, but with the new bigger
fd_set and up to 256 files open per process, it's no longer very hard to
run out of inodes.  Earlier kernel versions essentially just gave up on
this and did a kernel panic - resulting in a dead X session.  As of
0.99, this message means that some process is left waiting for a free
inode: it will be dead to the world until some other process dies or
otherwise free's up some system resources. 

With 0.99.1 (or just by changing NR_INODE to 256), you get 256 inodes
available, which is a lot more than it sounds like: you can get pretty
far with even such a "limited" nr of inodes, as programs tend to re-use
the same inodes several times (ie many programs share a common working
directory etc).  Also, there is a limit on the system-wide nr of files
open of 128, so with 256 inodes you should really not see the above
message. 

As with the nr of inodes, the number of files open (128) is actually a
lot more than it sounds - for similar reasons.  Also, running out of
files isn't that big a problem: it doesn't require a complete shutdown
of the process, but only results in the ENFILE error. 

		Linus
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: Re: [Q] linux ala SLS questiions
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:17:35 GMT

rsocia@alberti.cray.com (Rick Socia) writes:

>1) Exactly, which version of the SLS kernel do I have?  The one listed at
>   boot up says 0.99-47.  The login (getty) report 0.98p5.

	The login (getty) is not reporting 0.98p5...it is the /etc/issue
file that is.  I don't think that Peter had gotten around to changing
that :)

>2) I cannot rebuild the kernel and make it work (not panic on boot up).  So
>   are there instructions some place on how (with what make config options)
>   to (re)build the linux ala SLS kernel?  I want to make some minor tuning
>   to it and I figured I would try to just rebuild the existing one as a
>   first step.  There are no errors in the make process (as given in the
>   README in /usr/src/linux.

	Get 'linux-0.99.patch1.Z' from tsx-11 and install that before
trying to recompile the kernel.  I tried and got errors...the errors
disappeared as soon as I applied the patch :)

Marc
From: DO@cup.portal.com (JEFF SCOTT MARCUS)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need help booting Linux off HD
Date: Fri,  1 Jan 93 17:00:57 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I am having troubles installing Lilo .7 on my system. I am trying to 
install it on a 100MB IDE with an 8MB DOS active partition and a 64MB 
Linux partition. I finaly got Lilo installed (and kept from stomping my 
DOS primary) and DOS boots up fine, Linux however does not. Here is my
Lilo config. file -

install=/etc/lilo/boot.b
boot=/dev/hda
delay=10
other=/dev/hda1
table=/dev/hda
image=/Image

When I run Lilo I get this message -

Reading boot sector from /dev/hda
Merging with /etc/lilo/boot.b
Device 0x0302: BIOS drive 0x80, 7 heads, 868 cylinders,
               34 sectors. Partition offset: 12376 sectors.
Secondary loader: 3 sectors.
Device 0x0302: BIOS drive 0x80, 7 heads, 868 cylinders,
               34 sectors. Partition offset: 34 sectors.
Mapped 2 (1+1) sectors.
Added hda1
    <dev=0x80,hd=4,cyl=122,sct=67>
Boot image: /Image
Device 0x0302: BIOS drive 0x80, 7 heads, 868 cylinders,
               34 sectors. Partition offset: 12376 sectors.
Mapped 846 sectors.
Added Image
    <dev=0x80,hd=4,cyl=122,sct=68>
Map file size: 7168 bytes.

Now when I boot Linux everything looks normal until it reaches the 
"partition tables ok" message and then I get -

MINIX-fs: Unable to read superblock
EXT-fs: Unable to read superblock              (never used mkefs)
MSDOS bread failed
isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev 0x343 iso_blknum16
Kernel panic: Unable to mount root

And then it dies :( I am brand new to Linux/Unix and cant find mention in
the docs I have (and dont know how to use TeX to read the large Lilo
docs, sniff) so would some kind soul please help me out ... hmmmmm??
Oh btw, I am using the latest SLS root/boot release.
                 

Jeff Marcus
DO@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: andrewm@runx.oz.au (Andrew McLaren)
Subject: X/Trident email
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 05:55:09 GMT

A chap with a Chinese name (Yang?) sent me an email re Trident problems a
week or two ago.

Unfortunately, while in a Christmas-pudding induced delerium, I deleted all
my mail by mistake.

Please email me again and I will be happy to talk at great length about
Xconfig and Trident cards. Sorry for the inconvenience,

Andrew McLaren
andrewm@runx.oz.au    Sydney Australia   vox: +61-2-51-2978 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades)
Subject: 0.99.2 compile prob #2
Summary: compile problem in 0.99.2 main.c
Keywords: 0.99.2 compile problem
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:00:18 GMT

I get the following when I try to compile 0.99.2:

# make
gcc -DKERNEL -Wall -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer  -c -o init/main.o init/main.c
init/main.c: In function `start_kernel':
init/main.c:245: too many arguments to function `inode_init'
init/main.c:245: void value not ignored as it ought to be
make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
# 

any ideas?

-- 
Philip Rhoades
First Year Biology
University of Sydney
phil@biox.bio.su.OZ.AU or philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ianj@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Ian Justman )
Subject: Re: Error...NMI received?
Organization: Citrus Grove Public Access ( 916 ) 381-5822    Sacramento CA.  USA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:48:58 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Admin) writes:
: Hello...
: 
: 	As it says...I get an error, well, I got it twice so far, that
: goes to the effect of:
: 
: Uhhuh. NMI received. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue
: 
: 	What does this mean? :)

I wouldn't mind knowing, too.  With my full setup, I _ALWAYS_ get it,
but otherwise, everything seems to be in order.

-- 
Born to void warranties!	ianj@ijpc.UUCP
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: List of Broken Bins under 0.99 [v1.2]
Date: 27 Dec 1992 16:09:34 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

prv2d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Peter Villadsen) writes:

>In article <1992Dec27.181854.5741@sol.UVic.CA> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
>>
>>Look, you may mean well, but posting this kind of official sounding misinformation
>>is more damaging than helpful.
>>
>   
>   On the contrary, it can potentially be very helpful. But instead of
>ragging the attempt, suggestions on improvements would be more useful.

>   Peter


What he meant, was that posting about everyone needing to upgrade to 4.2 is
wrong. That release is not official yet, and shouldn't be grabbed unless
really necesarry (i.e. you have something that core dumps because of sigaction
, comes to mind).

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ishwar@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Ishwar Rattan)
Subject: elvis-1.6 and Minix 1.5
Followup-To: ishwar@cs.wmich.edu
Keywords: Minix 1.5, elvis-1.6, compilation
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:16:26 GMT

hello
	i tried to compile elvis-1.6 under Minix 1.5 and the
attempt failed with error message:

"cmd1.c": line 1755: _addCR undefined
"cmd1.c": line 1757: _addCR undefined
make: Error code 256

if any kind soul has compiled the 1.6 version under Minix 1.5, would
it please send me a copy of the binary by e-mail?

thanks in advance,

- ishwar
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: agc@weasel.demon.co.uk (Alan Charlton)
Subject: Re: Missing Header Files in SLS 0.99
Reply-To: agc@weasel.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.20 $
Organization: nowhere in particular...
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:52:45 +0000

In article <168C41D55.JHUANG@kentvm.kent.edu> JHUANG@kentvm.kent.edu writes:
>     Hello All. I am not sure that this has been encountered before.
>  
>     I downloaded SLS 0.99 from sunsite and had it installed on my 486
> very smoothly.
>  
>     Everything ran well, until I tried to compile a small C program.
> It then complained about <linux/types.h>, <linux/stat.h>, etc. being
> not found. I then went to "/usr/include/linux" and found out that only
> "const.h" was there.
>  
>     Simple question: what should I do about this situation?
>  
>     Thanks in advance.
>  

(from memory):

try:

ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include/linux

	and

ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include/asm

This should work, although it's quite possible that I may have transposed
the arguments.

Happy Linuxing,

Alan.
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| agc@cix.compulink.co.uk         | - what the hell does it spell? |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: greg@katie (Greg Wells)
Subject: Logitech Busmouse problems with XS3 server
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:12:45 GMT

When I start X, the mouse pointer goes immediately to the lower left hand 
corner and barely moves as I move the mouse around the mouse pad.  The buttons
are unresponsive.  I am using the settings provided in the sample 
Xconfig provided with .99 linux for Busmouse with SVGA settings provided
with the Xconfig for the XS3 server. I am using an Orchid 1280 SVGA, but 
the problems seems to be solely with the mouse.

I have tried setting the device to /dev/mouse, all /dev/bmouse*, and all
/dev/ttys*.  Only /dev/ttys0 draws any response from the mouse.

Anyone else having these problems?

Greg_Wells@west.msi.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: Smail 3.1 on SLS 0.99. Can't send smtp mail!
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:32:39 GMT

david@prism.demon.co.uk (David Metcalfe) writes:

>The smail binary provided with SLS doesn't have the smtp drivers
>compiled into it.  I have managed to get smail to compile with smtp
>drivers by starting from the source code in the newspak directory on
>sunsite.  All I had to change were the following defines in
>conf/os/linux.

>1.   Change DRIVER_CONFIGURATION to bsd-network.

>2.   Add BSD_NETWORKING to the HAVE list.

>3.   Add INET_NTOA_USE_STRUCT to the MISC_DEFINES list.


when you test this, please let me know if it worked.  I'm more than
willing to update the smail3.1.28 I sent to Peter with additional
drivers, etc. as long as it doesn't break anything else that other folks
are depending on (ie...it I change the driver to bsd-network, will that
break the uucp-based setup that probably many more people (including me)
depend on?).


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From: rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: where is the NEW telnetd ?
Keywords: telnetd location
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:24:13 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

In article <1992Dec21.181823.26851@samba.oit.unc.edu> jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) writes:
>In article <simmon.724957537@maxwell> simmon@eeel.nist.gov (Eric Simmon) writes:
>>I am trying to get telnet (tcpip) running with the new kernel (0.99),
>>I can telnet out of my machine, but I can not telnet in from the outside.
>>Someone mentioned that there is a new telnetd which solves these probs.
>>Is this true, and if so where is telnetd?
>
>there is a fairly new telnetd on sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/system/Network 
>
>I am still having some problems with it though, on my machine; it takes
>about a minute to allow a login.  I 've heard that this is
>becuase I am not running named and it is waiting for named timing out;
>
>I'm going to look into this though...
>
>jem.

This is true.  It is not telnet's fault, rather the way linux does
name resolving.  You shouldn't see thins if you:
1) have access to a nameserver
2) are running named
So if you are doing loopback just for fun, you will have to:
1) wrestle with configuring named
2) wait the minute

- Ken
From: Dave-Nuttall@cup.portal.com (David Dave Nuttall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: LILO 7 and LINUX 0.99.1
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 16:44:52 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Philip was absolutely CORRECT on his tip to add boot = /dev/hda as the
first line of my CONFIG file!

Thanks.