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From: deweeset@ptolemy3.rdrc.rpi.edu (Thomas E. DeWeese)
Subject: Re: Mac OS on PC
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:41:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.063527.29400@nwnexus.WA.COM> phaedrus@halcyon.com (Mark Phaedrus) writes:
>In article <cjs2z6m@rpi.edu> deweeset@ptolemy3.rdrc.rpi.edu (Thomas E. DeWeese) writes:
>
>>                                                           There are two 
>>"rumors" I have heard which, if true (which really is for a court of law
>>to decide), mean that MS is no longer compeating in a free market enviroment.
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     Mind you, I'm not saying that Microsoft shouldn't be broken up; I think
>there's valid reasons for doing so.  But not these particular reasons. :)
>\o\ Internet: phaedrus@halcyon.com  (Seattle, WA Public Access Unix)     \o\

  What I was trying to point out is that Microsoft is no longer exists in a
free market.  While those rumors don't mean that Microsoft is doing anything
illegal, they do indicate that Microsoft has essensially a monopoly in the
industry.  One of the odd things about the anti trust (?) laws is that
you don't have to "break the law", you simply have to get to a point where
you are so large, that you no longer have to serve your customers.
							Thomas DeWeese
deweeset@rdrc.rpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Ray Zimmerman <Ray-Zimmerman@cornell.edu>
Subject: Where is Macintalk?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A75B470AA401E0B5@ziklag.ee.cornell.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 21 Dec 92 15: 03:54 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: rz10@cornell.edu
Organization: Electrical Engineering, Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d14
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:56:37 GMT

I remember playing around with Macintalk a long time ago when I still
had my original 128K Mac.  What's happened to it?  Is it still around?
Does it work with Sys 7?  7.1?  Can it be ftp'd from somewhere?

Any info appreciated.  Thanks,
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 Ray Zimmerman           \ 397 Theory Center, Electrical Engineering
                          \ Cornell University, Ithaca NY  14853
 Ray-Zimmerman@cornell.edu \ Phone: 607-254-8819  Fax: 607-255-9072
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
        "The number you have dialed is imaginary.
                    Rotate phone 90 degrees and try again."
From: al013@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Otlowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: MacRecorder Wanted
Date: 2 Jan 1993 07:38:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: al013@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Otlowski)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Hi,

I'm looking for an old used MacRecorder, one that has options
for both microphone and line inputs.

I'm willing to pay $50-$60 for a used one.  Please let me know
If you have one you'd be willing to sell.

Thanks,

Please email me at  al013@cleveland.freenet.edu with a copy to 
                    aiden@ncoast.org

or call me at 216-732-9170 on or after Wednesday, January 6, 1993.

Steve Otlowski


-- 
Steve Otlowski

aiden@ncoast.org  or al013@cleveland.freenet.edu
or BITNET al013%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Mac OS on PC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:52:29 GMT

bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) writes:
>	Mac				PC
>	one hard disk standard		several hard disk standards
>	one kind of video		many kinds of video
>	few kinds of printer		many kinds of printer
>	few kinds of network		many kinds of network
>	one kind of sound		several kinds of sounds

There are fewer kinds in MacLand but these fewer kinds are often as effective
as the best few PC opstions.  In other words, quantity does not equal
quality, necessarily

>On the other hand, I don't see any reason to conclude that Windows
>will get much easier any time soon, nor do I see any reason why Apple
>can't underprice the clones. 


The December 7, 1992 issue of "Information Week" article had and interesting
article on page 24: "The GUI Comparison:  Windows Or Stained Glass?"

It sums it up pretty well.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: gpb@gpb-mac (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: Regular crashing in ROM _Jackson, why?
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 01:21:45 GMT

bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell) writes:
: Axello de Roestello (aroest@fwi.uva.nl) wrote:
: : Help!
: 
:    [deleted]
: 
: System error #25 means out of memory. Try giving the application that is
: causing the crash more memory.
: 

Since many applications are crashing, finder is probably running out of 
memory.  You can edit the size resource of Finder with Resedit to increase the
Finder's memory allocation.

Greg.

--
My words, not Motorola's.   * ______ *
gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com     * \ BI / * I will NOT ride in the back of the bus.
Greg Berryman (512)928-6014 *  \  /  *         SILENCE = DEATH
Motorola Austin, Texas, USA *   \/   *     First, be true to yourself.
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: A command key to "Hide"?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 21:45:33 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Dec29.182939.23274@eos.arc.nasa.gov> dencisco@eos.arc.nasa.gov
(David Paul Encisco) writes:
>Is there an extension, control panel application, or an
>Fkey that allows me to type a command key sequence that
>utilizes the hide function? Some times I need to hide
>an application quickly.

It's easy if you have QuicKeys. I have F6 on my extended keyboard set to choose
the first item in the process menu, no matter what application is active.

>Thanks,
>Dave

How'd you know in advance that I was going to respond? :-)

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: gpb@gpb-mac (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: File copy unsuccessful -- what to do? 
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:26:42 GMT

reriksso@klaava.Helsinki.FI (era eriksson) writes:
: 
: Firstly, I couldn't find anything on this in the FAQ list. It +ought+ to
: be in the FAQ, IMHO. Maybe it's in the Apple manuals... <sigh> 
: 
: Often when I try to copy a few files to a disk more than a month old, I
: get a message (in Finnish; can't give you the exact English wording but
: you'll recognize this one) telling me that the copy operation was
: unsuccessful, and offering me the options to either Cancel the copying
: or Continue. 
: 
: Any other thoughts on this topic would be most valued. If this topic has
: already been beaten to death, I'd appreciate if some of the gurus could
: write up some sort of summary and mail it to me. 
: 
: Thanks, and pardon my unstructured prose, 
: 

No problem with the prose... but a little bit more info would help.
What kind of hardware are you using, and what type of disks?

I have seen problems like this when HD (2Mbyte) floppies were being used in
a DD (1MByte) drive OR when the heads on the floppy drive needed cleaning.

I take care of about 100 Macs and this type of problem is rare in our
environment.

Greg.

--
My words, not Motorola's.   * ______ *
gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com     * \ BI / * I will NOT ride in the back of the bus.
Greg Berryman (512)928-6014 *  \  /  *         SILENCE = DEATH
Motorola Austin, Texas, USA *   \/   *     First, be true to yourself.
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: *** WARNING *** Novell + QuickTime = Disaster
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:01:57 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Dec28.173804.5478@novell.com> dseeman@novell.com (Daniel
Seeman) writes:
>NetWare DOES implement time stamps correctly (if you are using the word
"correct
>ly" with respect to DOS workstation clients).

Since we're talking about Macs here, NetWare _doesn't_ implement time stamps
correctly.
It's supposed to be an AFP-compatible server, not AFP-compatible except for
time stamps and CD-ROMs.

>problem is not so easy.  A choice was made in the beginning and to date, (I
>had nothing to do with this decision process) Novell has elected to stick with

>that original format.  It is not such a bad decision considering the number of

>DOS clients compared to Macintosh (NetWare) clients.

This could be interpreted to say that Novell doesn't care about supporting
Macs.

> Also, it is MUCH easier
>to change the client's side rather than on the server's side 

I consider it inelegant to ask application writers to make special patches to
their code to get around bugs in other publishers' software.

>However, let me hopefully put an end to this string (it really isn't getting
>us anywhere) by asking that everyone keep their eyes open for another solution
>that should not involve "fixing" the client side application.

We already have our solution - AppleTalk for PCs.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: tnakada@eis.calstate.edu (Tom Nakada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Mac date format changed, want to get it back
Date: 29 Dec 92 04:11:34 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

smg@coconut.cis.ufl.edu (Scot M. Gardner) writes:
> Recently I had a Mac's date format change. It used to be the 
> standard US format (month/day/year) and now it is some other 
> format (year/month/day). I can't figure out how to get it back!
> (I feel like such a user (: ). I'm sorry if this question gets 
> asked a lot, I could not find it in the FAQ.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help!
> 
> Scot
> 
> -- 
> |Scot Gardner Inet: smg@cis.ufl.edu UUCP: ...!gatech!uflorida!smg             |
> |"Warning, For external use only. If taken internaly severe gastric           |
> | disturbance will result"                                                    |

I'm assuming this is on a machine running System 7.1 - if so just go to
your Control Panels and open the Date & Time control panel and change
whatever format you want to change. :-)

If you're running a Sysem 6.x machine - I believe there was a cdev or init
called Date that let you change those parameters.

Hope it helps!

Tom
-----------------------
Tom Nakada
San Diego City College
tnakada@eis.calstate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: Tony_Yang@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:14:27 EST
Subject: Re: sys 7.0.1 on a plus problems

Dear Brian,

This problem kind of happened to me when I tried to install system 7.0.1 on my
Mac Plus. "Kind of" happened because what I was doing was I was switching hard
disks (external) between a Quadra 700 and the Plus.

I solved it by completely reformatting the hard disk using Drive7 version 2.3.
I think it was a driver problem or something.

I hope this helps (it might not).

********************************************************************
System: fourd.com                                Phone: 617-494-0565
Cute quote:  Being a computer means never having to say you're sorry
********************************************************************

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: mstov@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (michael.p.stovsky)
Subject: MacTCP 1.1.1 Found!  Thanks!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:25:08 GMT

A little while ago, I posted an article looking for MacTCP version 1.1.1.  Once
again, the net came to my rescue.

Charles Lind suggested ftping to ni.umd.edu and looking in dist.  Lo and 
behold, there was mactcp111.sit.hqx.

Richard Brandau and John Matthews both suggested downloading the XGator demo.
Apparently, it includes the current version of MacTCP.

Thanks to all who responded for your help!

	Michael
	mps@cbvox.att.com
From: Richard.A.Damon.III@dartmouth.edu (Rick Damon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Split Infinitive in System!
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:55:14 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, Lebanon, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b3@newshost.dartmouth.edu

And I thought I was the only one bothered by this!

Thanks for the posting.  Although many may say it doesn't matter, they
are wrong.

--Rick Damon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: terry@zoe.network23.com (Terry)
Subject: Re: mac with multiple monitors HELP!!
Organization: Mystech Associates
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:31:42 GMT

From article <92354.1741252958804@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>, by <2958804@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>:
> I need help.  I have an SE/30 with a second monitor attached via a card.  I wan
> t to be able to disconnect the second monitor from the se30 and take it home,
> and use the built in monitor.  I succeeded in reconfiguring things via the "mon
> itor" control panel so that the built in monitor is the startup monitor and con
> tains the menu bar, but some applications STILL position their windows on the s
> econd monitor, the one that isn't there any more.  Is there any way around this
>  other than opening up the mac and disconnecting the monitor card??? please rea
> ply to the email address above.  Thanks, Paul.

I suggest that you contact the card manufacturer.  We have a RasterOps 708+ /30
card and when the video cable is disconnected at the SE30, the computer switches
back to the internal monitor, no problem, except for some windows at funny postions.

Terry
-- 
terry@zoe.network23.com
{rayssd,xanth,mirror,att}!galaxia!zoe!terry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase)
Subject: Re: AppleShare 3.0 -> 3.0.1 upgrade kit
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:39:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.084750.5218@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>,
ralphw@comm.mot.com (Ralph Warchol) wrote:
> 
> I just received my AppleShare 3.0 -> 3.0.1 upgrade kit. It contains no
> information regarding what has been fixed. Does anyone know what
> problems have been fixed in 3.0.1?


Yo...I received mine too......fixed???? Does Apple ever admit that there
was
a problem.....The only answer I was able to obtain from Apple was that
3.0.1
is required if you upgrade to Sys 7.1.......

<==================================+==================================>
  Peter Haase                      +    Internet: haase@meediv.lanl.gov
  Network Manager/MEE-Division     +    Applelink: HAASE
  Los Alamos National Laboratory   +    Phone: 505-667-2684

"The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not necessarily
 reflect those of Los Alamos National Laboratory"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: delac@midas.mgmt.purdue.edu (Chas. DeLa)
Subject: Re: Run on shutdown under Sys 6?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:17:15 GMT
Organization: Krannert School of Management
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Dec22.164417.14239@mail.cornell.edu>, Ray Zimmerman
<Ray-Zimmerman@cornell.edu> wrote:
> 
> Is there any way to run a program on shutdown (or restart) under
> System 6.0.7?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>  Ray Zimmerman           \ 397 Theory Center, Electrical Engineering
>                           \ Cornell University, Ithaca NY  14853
>  Ray-Zimmerman@cornell.edu \ Phone: 607-254-8819  Fax: 607-255-9072
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>         "The number you have dialed is imaginary.
>                     Rotate phone 90 degrees and try again."

Ray,

Select the program you want to run at startup by single-clicking on it. 
Then go to the Special menu and select "Set startup" and click "on" the
appropriate radio button.

Chas. DeLa                       Internet:  delac@midas.mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert Computer Center           BITNET:  delac@purccvm
Purdue University                   Phone:  (317) 494-9564
West Lafayette, Indiana  47907
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: slow@ferrari.cray.com (David Slowinski)
Subject: Why does 7.1 system need 9921k?
Reply-To: slow@ferrari.cray.com (David Slowinski)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.  Eagan, MN.
Date: 31 Dec 92 11:34:28 CST

The 7.1 system on my Mac II ci seems to use lots of
memory even when I boot without INIT's from a floppy.

Radius Precision Color Display/20 with 8 bit color card
Virtual memory: OFF
disk cache: 512k

memory:              16384k
System software:      9921k
Largest unused block: 6437k

Can this be normal?  I have no idea where to look for 
the culprit.  I welcome any suggestions.

Thank you kindly,

David Slowinski
slow@cray.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Disable Caps Locks on Powerbook
From: zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu (Gregory Talmo)
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:52:19 -0600
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State Academic Computing

In article <144154@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, finkel@sirius.llnl.gov (Bob
Finkel) wrote:
> 
> Well, I've turned the poorly located Caps Lock on my PB170 one time too
> many. I seem to remember hearing about an extension which temporarily
> disables the Caps Lock key or exchanges it with the Ctrl key. At the
> time I didn't understand the problem. Now I do. Can anyone direct me to
> such an extension? Thanks in advance.

 Bob,
  Check in the archives at Umich (mac.archive.umich.edu),
/mac/util/powerbook (I Think) or on ftp.apple.com /dts/mac/powerbook. 
There is a file called , I think, CapsKiller.  It is a keyboard description
file that you drop into your System file, and select under the Keyboard
Cdev, that turns off the CapsLock key, and switched the Esc and Tilde keys.
 Really handy.  I've used it on my PB170 since summer.

- Greg Talmo  (zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu)
                                  |The opinions expressed above are my own,
"A censor is a man who knows more |and do not necessarily reflect the
than he thinks you ought to."     |opinions, tastes, or policies of Winona
                - Granville Hicks |State University, its faculty, staff or
                                  |students.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: vuori@netcom.com (Veikko Vuorikoski)
Subject: Error -39 in ALL apps
Summary: Error -39 appeared when starting apps
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:41:07 GMT

        I had this strange problem this morning after I started my IIsi:
The system started up normally, but when I tried to run any application,
(except ZTerm) I received an Error -39 message, which means "End of File;
no additional data in the format". When I checked the program's
Get Info dialog, any of them didn't have a default size, and application 
memory was set to zero. I managed to start Disinfectant, and it told me
that most files had a damaged resource fork(I didn't scan all, just the
first ones). I tried Norton Utilities emergency disk, and it found
nothing wrong. Then I restarted the computer and most programs were 
working perfectly and Disinfectant found nothing. However, Norton 
Utilities on my hard disk stopped working, but a working copy of it
appeared in the AutoDoubler resuced items folder, and BunchTyper (program
for changing type and creator of multiple files) stopped working. Oddly,
Disinfectant and Virusdetective were slower than normally when I scanned
the disk, and Norton DiskLight showed some writing operations while virus
detectors were scanning the disk.
        I also noticed that problem had only appeared in files
compressed with AutoDoubler (I'm using version 1.0.7i). I noticed this
because the System Errors application, which was in Apple menu still
worked.
		Coul this be an AutoDoubler bug or something else? Ideas?
Please respond before ZTerm and MacLayers go down :-)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Software to shut down and startup a mac automatically
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 00:46:19 GMT

In article <parkyn.725898930@sfu.ca> parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn) writes:
>rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com (Greg Ferguson) writes:
>
>>to run to turn it on? It would be *very* dangerous software with much juju
>>which could startup a Mac which is off. I would be inclined to inspect my
>>CPU with an axe if I saw my machine turn itself on.
>
>Do take the time to investigate...
>There have been reports of ill fit of components that, given conditions, shorted
>or pressed the mechanism causing start up. Much to the consternation of the
>owner.
>
>Also, PowerBook coupled with appropriate modem can wake from sleep to answer
>call...

Since I'm trying to catch up on about 2 weeks of backlog, I've only been 
reading. But I have to say something before this gets out of hand.
 
First, in response to the Powerbook comment, I don't think "sleep" is the 
same thing as "off". If I remember correctly, "sleep" shuts down most of
the components to conserve power.
 
A commercial alternative is PowerKey. It runs around $75 through
MacWarehouse, and is a hardware/software combination that turns on any Mac
when the power key (the one with the sideways triangle) on the keyboard is
pressed. The software also allows you to set unattended power-ons and   
shutoffs, and launch QuicKeys macros (to make an unattended hard drive
backqp, for example.) You can also buy a $35 add-on that will turn a Mac   
on via a phone call (great for doing file transfers, for instance.

Jay (=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: raph@ultramac.uucp (Raphael Figueroa)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:04:11 CDT
Subject: Re: Greyscale StartupScreen

Please let me know of your findings; my friend's 180 is just acking for a
StartUpScreen.  :   )

raph@oui.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: kjt001@dunix.drake.edu (Devil Bunny!)
Subject: What's with this formatter to put 2x data on your disk?
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:25:24 GMT

Recently in MacUser, I saw an ad for this hard drive formatter (sorry, I
can't remember what it was called, and I don't have the magazine here)
that says that it formats your hard drive so it can hold twice as much
data.  It says that it does not do compression...


How can this be?  Have they discovered a new method of storing data that
works on current technology?  If they had, I would have expected that it
would receive more coverage....

I would think that using this program on your hard drive would be very
dangerous; I don't see any way it could work...


If you want to look it up, I think it's either in the Jan issue or that
special issue they send out...and towards the middle, I think, maybe 2/3
the way through the magazine.



Another thing....How do I get my .sig file to work right?  It's not
displaying the whole file; there's a few more lines to it...

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