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From: tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu (Todd E. Grupe)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dealing with the Insurance Scum
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:02:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.170033.28009@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com  
(David Svoboda) writes:
> In article <24689@galaxy.ucr.edu> tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu (Todd E.  
Grupe) writes:
> |
> |was my first major bike accident...
> |I was told that they weren't  going to pay it...
> |deadbeat insurance  companies
> 
> I can't really help you, but I think it would be nice to tell
> us what insurance company this is, so we can avoid it.

	The company is 20th Century.  As of yesterday, they have backed  
off from the claim that they won't be paying the bill; instead they want  
to call me back in a few days and "negotiate it."  I won't be negotiating,  
of course; just telling them that I won't be paying a dime of it.  
	Note that this is not *my* insurance company; it's that of the  
driver who was at fault.  I've heard they normally have a good reputation  
for paying up, but you wouldn't know it from this claim.

TG   DoD#4043

--
tgrupe@watserv.ucr.edu

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From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100
Date: 4 Jan 1993 20:16:27 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

In article <moseley.151.726165026@u.washington.edu> moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:
>BMWs, Ducati, Harleys - these are bikes with character for sure. They don't 
>work as well as the other (Japanese) bikes, but they've got character the 
>others lack. But why is character so expensive? Why does character cost more 
>than function?

Because character is inversely proportional to volume (would Harleys have 
"character" if everybody rode one?).  Function is cheap because it sells
lots of units and achieves economies of scale.


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: cager attitudes
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:33:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.033505.25134@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>Except for the dizzy bitch who was passing against a double yellow on a
>big sweeping turn going by 6 cars at once and forcing me into the bike
>lane (fortunately no bikes) I haven't given a finger to a cager in a long
>time.

Hah!  You should have hit her head on.  _That_ would have shown her.


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              Lachman Technology, Incorporated
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
 __       There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
 \/                   followed by the words "Daddy!  Yay!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Bra auction: Ride for Sight info.
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Distribution: worlc
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 20:24:18 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Ugly Colours (was: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100)
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:48:18 GMT

In article <9901118@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson) writes:
>
>  Wow, this means that the Amazonas has more character than BMWs, Ducati,
>  Harleys, etc. put together.  Hey, they even probably don't work as well
>  as BMWs, Ducati, Harleys, etc.

My impression from a review of the Amazonas was that it *did* have 
character, and lots of it.  I mean, get this:

-- Worst performing 1600 cc bike that you could imagine building;
-- Gears in VW differential drive *welded* *together* to make it drive
   a single wheel;
-- Just a glance at pinstriping tells you it was painted lovingly by 
   hand, it's not a mass-produced decal.

How much more character can a bike have?

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Bra auction: going, going....
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:01:03 GMT

In article <C0KowD.9qt@boo.uucp> bobm@boo.uucp (Bob Marrow) writes:
}In article <1993Jan8.224238.11828@grebyn.com> rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
}>$75 says you'll feel guilty for such vindictive statements. :-)
}
}$76 says it's mine.

Well, I already beat you to it and bid $76 back when the price was
$72, but just to be charitable I'll up it to $79.
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721			'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: bloated like a pig
Distribution: na
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles,alt.elvis.bloated.like.a.pig
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:21:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.201741.21882@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) oinks:
[..]

> 
>          "I'm sorry I talked bad about Barry Manilow."
> 
>Feel better?

I'll see your Barry Manilow, and raise you a Slim Whitman and a Leonard Cohen.


Ob.motorcycle: I'm thinking about getting a gas tank powder-coated.
Have any of you ever done it?

--
  Eric Murray                                             ericm@microunity.com
      "Archiving the net is like washing toilet paper!"- Leader Kibo
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Bike Leather Jacket
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 22:52:50 GMT

In article <C04znI.Lvp@inews.Intel.COM> jchavez@td2cad.intel.com (Joas Chavez) writes:
>Hello Everyone;
>
>	I am looking for a Authentic California Highway Patrol Bike
>Jacket.  Does anyone knows where can I find one?  Please send me an
>E-Mail I am really deperate looking for one...  Thank You very much in
>ADVANCE..,       
>
>
>Happy New Year to All!      jojo

    Try Purple Hog in Yuba City. Their address is 668 Plumas St. Yuba City CA
95991
Phone 916-673-0676.

      I bought a jacket from them on an MMA run about 10 years ago, and
after 2 crashes, bad weather, and god knows how many miles it still looks
good.


Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 

'57 FL  (Ol' Beasty)
'76 XLCH (Hoss)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar. (Leapin' Lena)


==============================================================
 "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
                   W. C. Fields
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Buckeye Beemers?
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 19:33:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.152649.25372@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss) writes:
>The newest issue of _American Motorcyclist_ has a picture of some guys
>from the Buckeye Beemers MC with someone from the AMA (Jim Rogers?).  One
>of the guys in the Buckeye Beemers is named Charlie Smith.  Is this the
>same one from rec.motorcyles?
>
>-Tim Seiss

OhMyGawd!  They're on to me!  Quick Fred, where can I hide?

Ectually, the pic was taken right in front of the wall that holds the DoD
plaque with the picture of Geeky!  The one commemerating the DoD donations
of over $5500 to the AMA Museum.  I posted a writeup on that about last
November, as I recollect. 



Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
               BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                           Columbus, Ohio
From: willey@sumax.seattleu.edu (  dan quayle)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: bike for sale
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:00:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.1j044qINNvlb
Distribution: world
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

In article <1ivtdmINNl9p@bigboote.WPI.EDU> sdoki@cs.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki) writes:
>
>
>
>anywayS coming to the point, i have a bike for sale: 1989 suzuki
>gs500e white with blue stripes, hardly ridden, with only 7000 miles on
>it and is owned by an old lady. send me email if you are interested. i
>would appreciate it if you kept this to yourself.

i understand, if i were you i'd keep a low profile too.  however, where
the hell are you!!!!!!  or more importantly; where the hell is the bike!!!

others might like to know too.  we can no longer keep this a secret.
>
steve

-- 
** stephen willey        206.324.5090            *   '92 cadex CFM-2     **
** willey@seattleu.edu   DoD# 0769               *   '81 GS450           **
**   "math class is tough"  - non-pc barbi    new improved, shorter .sig **
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: I hate snow.
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 00:46:15 GMT

In article <1780@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
>: In article <1992Dec29.145321.1427@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>: |> I hate snow. It's been 5 whole days since I've been able to ride.
>: |> 
>: |> I REALLY, really, hate snow...
>: |> 8(
>: |> 
>: 
>: 5 days?!?  sheesh.  it took me 15 minutes to chisel through the ice cube
>: that was my car after work yesterday.  if i'm lucky, i'll get to ride in
>: march sometime.
>: 
>
>
>		All I can say Is that I love Atlanta Georgia...and
>		PPPPTTTTTTTTTTTHHHttt.!!
>
>				Sorry...just had to say that...We southerners
>				always get grief for being southern well here's one
>				advantage....     High 60's in december....Life is
>				great..!!!!
>
>
>						Ryan

Shessh!  Another .edu breath on the net.    Why don't they give them
80 character wide terminals to start with <??>   The world wonders!

On top of that, he wants to find out about the DoD <??>

	He's going to have to learn net-behaviour rules first <!!>


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
               BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                           Columbus, Ohio
From: bobby@dc.dk (Bobby Billingsley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: bike purchase?
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:44:22 GMT
Organization: Datacentralen A/S

achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:

>In article <1993Jan7.223458.10734@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> jhall@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov writes:
>>I plan on getting a motorcycle to tour (Western) Europe this summer and I
>>was wondering if it would be cheaper to buy it here and ship it
>>over or purchase it over there and ship it back after my trip.
>>
>>P.S. I plan on buying an American made bike, probably Sportster 883 or
>>     1200.
>>

>An Englishman who wanted to buy one of my Triumphs last summer found it would
>cost around $800-900 to ship it one way. My understanding is that Harleys are
>incredibly expensive in Europe. In fact, I knew  some guys a couple years ago
>that built a couple nice Glides, shipped them, toured Europe, then sold them
>in Denmark. Made enough on the sale to pay for the trip. I think the sale was
>prearranged. Through the net, you may be able to make similar arrangements.

>Jeff Achenbach

Ah.....but Denmark is a special case: Whenever you buy a bike or a car here,
you pay for three (Great offer: take 1 pay for 3!!). One third of the price
is for the actual "hardware", the other two thirds are V.A.T and other
taxes!!!

That's life for ya' :-(


/bobby
-- 
:   Bobby Billingsley                   : Remember to love while you dare to   :
:   Datacentralen, Denmark              : remember to live while you do so     :
:   Phone: +45 4371-8122 Ext. 3337      :........................-.Piet.Hein...:
:   E-mail: bobby@dc.dk                 : DoD# 80884 : Ride=Yamaha XJ600, 1986 :
From: 85p8379@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Yamaha XJ900- comments wanted
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:54:55 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

Hell-o as usual,

I'm a die-hard touring freak with limited budget, and am considering acquiring
a Yamaha XJ900.  I understand this model was last produced in '86, and is
generally considered to be a great touring bike.  It is a shafty (I hate chains
!) and although I've never ridden one it apparently handles okay.

Anyone with XJ900 experience is hereby invited to say something on the subject-
good or bad.  I can pick one up here in Australia for about AUS$ 4000, which is
not too bad since that is what my current '89 Kawa GPX250R is worth.  I know
there is also an XJ600 or thereabouts, but am not interested coz it's a chain
drive bike.  I think I've also seen an XJ750 shafty on the street, but have
never heard anything about it.

Any other info on good shafty tourers (not huge faired USA-style monsters, but
sportyish cruisers) much appreciated.  Erm, BMW's are a bit out of my wallet's
range.

My word of advice for the day:  try to avoid running out of petrol immediately
after overtaking a truck at 150 km/h on your GPX250.  Unimpressed truck drivers
can be marginally more dangerous than indifferent ones.

Barry Manor DoD# 620 Uni of New South Wales Biomed Engineering
85p8379@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Personal strobes
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:03:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 93Jan6103814@daedalus.stanford.edu, zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest) writes:
>
>   A strobbing red light will not increase your visibility over
>   the same power light at DC.
>
>Thank you for playing.  For a given time-averaged luminance, a strobe
>light of any color is much more visible than a similar-luminance DC light.
>That's because (A) you can get much higher (momentary) luminance with a 
>strobe, 

Bag your time-averaged luminance and instantanious vs. RMS (or whatever
its optical equivalent is) values.  Take a bulb of a given output.  You
can't see it any better if it turns on & off than if it turns on and
stays there.  It may be more *noticable*, but that doesn't mean you can
see it better than if it didn't flash.

>and (B) your visual system percieves rapid changes (light flashing
>lights) differently, and more effectively, than static objects.

It increases your conspicuity, or "attention-gathering-ness."  It
doesn't increase your visibility, or "ability-to-be-seen-ness."  The
law [generally] requires ability-to-be-seen-ness of motor vehicles (on
the ridiculous assumption operators of other motor vehicles are
looking), and reserves attention-gathering-ness for emergency vehicles
and those vehicles posing a safety hazard.  Since a motorcyclist isn't
generally in either of these categories, chances are the flashing light
is illegal.

>Vistalites and their derivatives are very popular for bicyclists here
>at Stanford.  They help a *LOT*.

So do blue dots and running lights.  That don't make 'em legal...

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls)
Subject: Re: Build Your Own !
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:07:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.132059.21132@elektro.cmhnet.org> charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>In article <63299@mimsy.umd.edu> leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:
>>ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>>>	"If you could build your own motorcycle, what would it be ?"
>>>
>>>No limits on materials, manufacturers, etc. but please endeavor to make it
>>>interesting.  If you just say, "all-new and handbuilt" certainly I for
>>>one will be disappointed.
>
>[ description of using GL1500 as basis for FB-1500 MkI (Fighter BIke) deleted ]
>
>>While it surely wouldn't be the best cafe racer for carving on the
>>backroads, it'd be the talk of the town at break stops.  Great bike
>>for posing.  With salvage on the Wing costing just under $2000 and
>>being perfectly mechanically sound (save forks and bars), I'm real
>>tempted to give it a go, but my toy budget is real tight right now.
>>
>>Okay, so I'm a sicko.  I also like CBXs, CX turbos, RE5s, Supersonic
>>Blue Smokers and Water Buffalos, all right.  So sue me.  At least I've
>>got my own style (editorials referencing my style to /dev/null  8^).
>>
>>Mr. Bill
>
>I love it.  That's a great way to start ... now if you just figure out how
>to get 40% more horsepower out of the GL-1500 engine you'll be on the way!
>
>Of course, my outlook has been called into question before!  I've been know 
>to create similar 4 wheeled sow's ears out of silk purses, at least if you 
>listen to my detractors!  For example, I still think 200 hp worth of Porsche
>6 cylinder engine in the back of a Volkswagen microbus made a marvelous tow 
>vehicle.  :-)  
>
>
>Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10

I heard that there used to be a manufacturer of a supercharger got the 
Gold Wing engine. I don't know about the possibility of boring out the
GL 1500 motor, but a bored and blown 1500 would probably come close to 
putting out 40% more power. The "sport bike " crowd may sneer, but the
Gl1500 handles very well. With a set of rear-sets to raise the height
of the pegs you'll be leaving quite a few of the squids in the dust
scratching their heads wondering "WOTTHEHELLWASTHAT!!!!!".

Jolly Roger
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Build Your Own !
Date: 10 Jan 93 04:12:52 GMT
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>	"If you could build your own motorcycle, what would it be ?"
>
>No limits on materials, manufacturers, etc. but please endeavor to make it
>interesting.  If you just say, "all-new and handbuilt" certainly I for
>one will be disappointed.

Well, it's not the one bike I'd want to saddle myself with for eternity,
but I came up with an... umm... _different_ project idea recently...

A riding buddy of mine just totalled his '88 GL1500 Goldwing.  He hit
one of Maryland's notorious bridge expansion joints that run parallel
to traffic travel.  In the middle of a lane.  At ~50mph.  In the rain.
On the Capitol Beltway.  During rush hour.  A worse-case scenario.

Fortunately, Tom walked away with just a hole in his rainsuit, and the
State claimed responsibility due to "a known poor, hazardous design,"
so he now has a new '93 GL1500 Aspencade *plus* all (surviving) after-
market accessories from the old bike - a pretty sweet deal.  At least
my tax dollars are going to something worthwhile for a change...

Like most of today's bikes, it was totalled out by plastic damage.
The engine, frame and drivetrain are all in perfect condition - not
even a scratch on the engine, thanks to case guards.  Front forks and
handlebar are bent, and instrument console is damaged, along with
every bit of plastic.

With a good frame, engine and drivetrain, and fueled by talk here about
new life for salvage bikes, I thought about the concept of modifying
this beast.  I'd dump all the bodywork, bars and forks.  Get with
some good chassis people and look into steepening the steering head
angle.  Spoke wheel for the front, also for the rear if proper mating
to the driveline could be arranged.  Massive disks with Brembo 6 puck
binders.  Upside down forks.  Six-into-Sixes.  Clip-ons.  Rearsets.
Streamlined composite material bodywork, but not full-coverage, with a
small sport fairing.  Solo seat & tailset.  Candy orange and black paint.
                                        ,
While it surely wouldn't be the best cafe racer for carving on the
backroads, it'd be the talk of the town at break stops.  Great bike
for posing.  With salvage on the Wing costing just under $2000 and
being perfectly mechanically sound (save forks and bars), I'm real
tempted to give it a go, but my toy budget is real tight right now.

Okay, so I'm a sicko.  I also like CBXs, CX turbos, RE5s, Supersonic
Blue Smokers and Water Buffalos, all right.  So sue me.  At least I've
got my own style (editorials referencing my style to /dev/null  8^).

Mr. Bill
-- 
 /    Spoken: Bill Leavitt    \ / ICOA 3193 \ / 82 Honda CBX White Lightning \
| UUCP: ...uunet!mimsy!leavitt | AMA 0313707 | ==82 Suzuki GS850GZ Suzibago== |
 \ Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu / \  DoD 224  / \ 76 Honda CJ360T Little Honda /
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AL weather
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:57:10 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation


In article <1993Jan5.153433.25798@b30.ingr.com>, mueller@b30news.b30.ingr.com ( Phil Mueller ) writes:
> 
> To all you Yankee and European DoDers:
> 
> I rode to work today!!
> ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
> 
> -- 
> Phil Mueller
> Huntsville, Alabama

Oh, big deal! So did I. -2 C (about 28 Fahrenheit). Danged if it didn't feel
good to get out on the road again. (There's been ice & snow on the roads for
about two weeks.)

BC
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Real life facts about insurance companies
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:57:18 GMT

In article <1iqnjlINNlrt@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com> mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
}Statements such as these, and threads whose subject lines include phrases
}such as "insurance scum", annoy me.  I think its time for all of us to
}realize that, like every other business in a capitalistic society, the
}mission of the insurance company is to maiximize its profit while providing
}goods or services to its customers.

1) Go to at least 2 different insurance offices, and grab a handful of
logo-bearing brochures at each.

2) Go to your local library or bookstore and check out/buy/order the
book "The Invisible Bankers: What the Insurance Industry Doesn't Want
You to Know" by Andrew Tobias. I think it is about a '71 vintage, and
is just as applicable today as it was back then.

3) Go home and paste the insurance brochures, logos showing, on your
dart board. Place darts within easy reach, grab a tall cool one and
begin reading.

4) When you feel the urge to hurl the book across the room because
you now hate the insurance industry so much (especially after you've
been so publicly naive about it in this forum), or you feel like
grabbing an AK-47 and heading to the local MacDonald's, throw the darts
instead.

5) Stop about 1/3 to 1/2 of the way through the book; the rest is
primarily all the data to back up his contentions and, while it is
good to be able to check his references and know he is solid in his
facts, it is boring as hell.

If, after doing the above, you still wish to come back on rec.moto
and propose your local insurance agent or your state insurance
commissioner for sainthood, I'll be happy to listen. Until then, my
response to the above is a hearty:

"BULLSHIT!"

But thanks for playing,
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721			'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles