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From: cybe@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rajesh Krishnan)
Subject: Re: B52s Concert Dates
Keywords: Lost and Saved
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 10:34:32 GMT

As the world's biggest B-52's fan, I feel it is my duty to respond.
First of all, for the most up-to-date information, call the B-52's
Hotline at 1-900-329-2990 ($5 flat fee).

My latest list of tour dates is as follows...

17NOV92 - Falconer Theatre in Copenhagen, Denmark
19NOV92 - Sporthalle in Hamburg, Germany
20NOV92 - Sporthalle in Cologne, Germany
23NOV92 - Olympiahalle in Munich, Germany
24NOV92 - Kongressscentrum in Stuttgart, Germany
25NOV92 - Festhalle in Frankfurt, Germany
27NOV92 - Orfeo Theatre in Milan, Italy
28NOV92 - Patinoire du Littoral in Neuchatel, Switzerland
30NOV92 - Theatre Tenda in Rome, Italy
03DEC92 - Brielpoort in Deinze, Belgium
05DEC92 - Muziekcentrum in Utrecht, Holland
06DEC92 - Zenith in Paris, France
08DEC92 - Transbordeur in Lyon, France
10DEC92 - Deutschlandhalle in Berlin, Germany
11DEC92 - Music Hall in Hannover, Germany
14DEC92 - Apollo in Manchester, England
15DEC92 - Barrowlands in Glasgow, Scotland
17DEC92 - Aston Villa Leisure Centre in Birmingham, England
18-19DEC92 - Academy in London, England

Hope this helps everyone out there.  And I always love to hear from
fellow fans (especially fools who think they can stump me on B-52's
trivia :-).

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From: jdrage@leibniz.uwaterloo.ca (your humble friend and narrator)
Subject: Re: 4AD - Lonely is an Eyesore
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:48:49 GMT

In article <u882517.721019660@bruny>, u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!) writes:
> 	Colurbox, Dif Juz and This Mortal Coil are defunct (but did not
> sign to another label), and the rest are all still on 4AD apart from the
> exceptions, (Clan of) Xymox and Cocteau Twins (Fontana)! 
> 	Where did you get your information?

Where did YOU get your information?  Cocteau Twins have been releasing under a
4AD / Capitol joint venture for the last couple of years (not under Fontana).
This Mortal Coil released _Blood_ last year, and will always be around as long
as the 4AD record label exists (the band is actually just random members of
various 4AD bands.  Dif Juz have always hated doing studio work, and mainly play
live, but managed to release _Huremics_, and _Extractions_ (which the CD contains
part of _Huremics_).

      _/   _/     _/  _/   _/_/_/   _/_/_/ [reduced signature for Mark Tompsett]
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From: HADCFDWF@admin.uh.edu (Doug Finney)
Subject: Re: Syd Barrett
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:45:17 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <163g02AH2aU501@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> chc30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com writes:

[regarding a new Syd CD with atrocious liner notes]
> ... plus they talk of Syd in terms of being a psychedelic madman like
> Rocky Erikson (whose name is misspelt by them too. 
  ^^^^^
Actually, his name is Roky.  If that's how they spelled it, they were correct.

D.
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:15178 alt.flame:14610
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.flame
Subject: kill this thread or move it (Re: Why I hate Sinead)
Date: 11 Nov 92 07:03:21 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.


	Ah, but I can.  some of the finest literature makes points by...
_inference_.  Since I am literate and can indeed read, I _inferred_ your
comparison as noted in your original inflammatory post.  Now, if you didn't
mean to _infer_ such a derogatory statement, and I took your message the wrong
way, you have my apologies.  otherwise, I would appreciate it if you would
stand off of your soapbox and keep the alt.music.alternative newsgroup a music
discussion group, rather than a place for you to vent your spleen.  there's a
newsgroup specifically for that, and if you don't get it, tough.
	Another thing, I find it rather strange that someone could infer from
_my_ post that I'm some Buchananite sicko (as some mail to me has stated).
I'm sorry, but you have absolutely no clue as to who I really am, so I'd
appreciate it if you could save us all some time and aggravation if you'd keep
your self-righteous posturing to yourselves.  If we wanted preaching we'd send
our dough to Tilton or Oral or some other confederate yahoo with a bible and
brylcreem.  There is nothing wrong with appreciating the theory of American
freedom.  Though many (including myself) take issue with the reality of
American politics and policy, I still hold as my greatest hero Thomas
Jefferson.  This does not mean you will see me at a Sons of the revolution
meeting anytime soon, but it does mean that I think the man had some of the
greatest political ideas in the last 250 years.  He also held slaves, but
along with many ideas of the past that were wrong, that did not necessarily
define the man to nearly the degree as his ideas of basic human rights.
	this crap has gone on too long.  several points before I send this off
to alt.flame and hopefully to clear my mailbox.  Remember this: No matter how
bad you are off, no matter what evils befall you, no matter the depth of your
personal despair, almost five billion people on this planet couldn't care
less.  and in the end, it's all naught, in a hundred years our bodies will be
-- 
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From: lees@waltz.seas.upenn.edu (Sang T Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: BREEDERS vs. PIXIES
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:19:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


     Recently somebody posted an article saying that the BREEDERS suck in
     comparison to the PIXIES.  They may never match up to the old-Pixies
     that I love, but compared to the new-Pixies, such as "trompe le Monde"
     I think that the BREEDERS are more interesting to listen to, at the
     moment.  "Trompe le Monde" was nothing more than pop-alternative with 
     a little noise thrown in.

     Just expressing my thoughts.

     Sang Lee
     lees@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: ph89sss@brunel.ac.uk (Stuart C Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Fall stuff
Keywords: Stimmerung
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:55:03 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

To: climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk
Subject: Re: The Fall stuff
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK
Cc: 
Bcc: 



	The Fall's contribution to volume 4 ( Arid Al's dream ) is excellent.
    (The Pavement and Babes in Toyland tracks are also excellent)
    It's in the same vein as their Ed's Babe E.P.
    The track will probably not be released on anything else.	
    
    As for the legend of Xanadu also quite special but probably not worth
    buying the L.P. for ( you can't even get the album on vinyl).

						Stu.
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From: lcwu@athena.mit.edu (Lawren C Wu)
Subject: CD for sale
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:46:27 GMT

For sale:

Cocteau Twins: Head Over Heels/Sunburst and Sunblind   CD
$8.50, including postage.

Please reply directly to me.  Thanks.

Lawren
lcwu@athena.mit.edu
From: enriquk@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (everyday oozer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Gray Matter
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:15:02 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu

Besides their latest, Thog, and their 2x7" (w/Shiver Boy, October...)
could someone tell me what else Gray Matter has out?  Is all of
their stuff on Dischord?  Also...what is the address for mail order
from Dischord?

Thanx,
Kelly
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From: 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: Re: sex pistols, rem, and Bosstones
Organization: Super Dimension Fortress - Public Access Unix - Dallas, Tx.. 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:15:08 GMT

>well i haven't heard the latest, but last i heard, the Sex Pistols were
>reforming for some reason or another.... and it's not really a new
>bassist, but original band memeber Glen Matlock whom Sid Vicious
>replaced.... if i remember my Pistols lore correctly, Matlock was the
>original guitarist and Steve Jones was their bassist, then McLaren 
>switched a lot of stuff around and the infamous line up was as we all
>know it.....

well actually steve and paul played together before they met glenn... steve
sang and wally warwick played guitar (I believe that was his name) a guy
named ceicil played congos...  ceicil got frustrated and quit.. wally was
kicked out.. steve got a guitar from malcolm (the white les paul custom, 
which he had been practicing on) and they went to find a singer... they
sort of knew john lydon from hanging around malcolms shop, and they
asked him to sing..

>i really wish this wasn't happening personally, i'd prefer the Pistols remain
>dead and buried and retain their glory, i'm afraid of what some geriatric
>ex-punks trying to reclaim some notoriety might look like.... i'm afraid it
>could be embarassing, then again, i could be wrong....

I think its great actually... john's music (PIL) has really gotten good...
but I've heard others condemn him for going back to rock and roll.. but
I say they can fuck off... if thats what he wants to do thats fine... the
pistols have gotten back together several times though... maybe with all
the new "alternative" stuff coming out (ie nirvana, teenage fan club) they
want to show the kids what punk really was... not some grunge shit...
I think the pistols sound alot like the who actually... I always thought
they had talent too... alot of people think they don't but oh well.. is
it true steve cut all his hair off?? hehe last time I saw him in hmm (1986?)
he had LONG hair.. he was in a record shop here in dallas... so much for
never trust a hippie.heh

>also, it makes one question the motives.... $$$$$$$$$$$$

yep... "you thought you'd seen the last of us, but now were back.."
should they play free shows "benefits for the earth??"  NAH!

-- 
Stephen M. Jones (214)436-4622 
SysAdmin <-> Super Dimension Fortress PAU 
6o25@sdf.lonestar.org - "Put in a quarter and play road rally." - Descendents 
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From: c188-am@po.berkeley.edu (Leor Jacobi)
Subject: >Flaming Lips Discography
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:41:23 GMT

It looks like the Lips will play the Whiskey 11/15 and Bogart's 11/17.

Anyone who needs tour dates, mail me.
(Someone requested info...but didn't include a return address that worked)

--
Leor J
c188-am@po.Berkeley.EDU
 Leor Jacobi                ,__o  | "How can the angels get to sleep
 leor@ocf.berkeley.edu    _-\_<,  |  when the Devil leaves the porch
 c188-am@po.berkeley.edu (*)/'(*) |  light on?"
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|		--Tom Waits
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From: plowenstein@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Produced by Butch Vig
Organization: Clark University
Date: 5 NOV 92 23:44:22 GMT

urge overkill- (ot sure of name, but it is a double album)
From: dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: NIRVANA SONG
Keywords: The N Word
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:19:30 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

bleach@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jared Bowen Black) writes:

>>  I saw them in the spring of '91 at a bar in Chico, CA.
>>
>>So there.
>>

>Hello,
> I but I was seeing Nirvana in Spokane when they 
>played shitty all age clubs for $3 in late 1989.  I guess
>I'm the hardcore fan that loves to show it :)
>-Jared

Oh yeah, well I used to think about them when I was in the crib and my
father could beat up your father and I'm having a birthday party and I'm
not inviting you.
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From: peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen)
Subject: Re: Daniel Ash/David J in a new band?
Originator: peterco@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:34:39 GMT

According to that wanking wonder, Dave Kendall, of MTV's 120 Minutes,
there's a new Love and Rockets album "in the can" that we shouldn't expect
to hear any time in the near future.  David J released a new solo album a
couple of months ago, and Daniel Ash just recently released a new solo
album.  Kevin Haskins is enjoying his retirement, I think.

The new single from the Ash album doesn't sound altogether bad.  Very
reminiscent of the noisy psychedelia produced on the L&R "Express" album. 
Much more uptempo, less jazzy, more feedbacky than Ash's previous
flatulent and impotent effort, "Coming Down," or whatever that waste of
aluminum and plastic sitting in that jewel case in my CD rack is...

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| peterco@eff.org | Heck!  My employer doesn't even know I'm here! |
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From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: ZAMPHIR, PAN FLUTE GOD, PRT. 2
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:21:06 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1992Nov1.003041.2525@bvc.edu> wilsonandrew@bvc.edu writes:
>AS I WAS SAYING. ZAMPHIR SOUNDS REAL FUNKY (OR SO I'VE HEARD) AND COULD 
>PROBABLY GO REAL FAR IN THE NEW "ALTERNATIVE" SCENE IF HE WERE GIVEN PROPER 
...
>LEATHER PANTS AND DANCES WITH SEXY BLOND ONSTAGE WHILE GARGLING WINDEX IN 
...
>ZAMPHIR MAKING PELVIC THRUSTS TOWARDS POSTER OF JODY FOSTER. THROW IN LOTS 

yeah, well I know that *I* would be impressed... I mean, I listen to
alternative music because of the tried-and-true formula of masculinity
based on objectification of women, err, I mean females...

    "The typical male thinks with his dick. That's how he rationalizes
    shallow sexual conquest as a means of expression and fulfillment in a
    world of alienation and emptiness under modern capitalism.  However,
    the typical male thinks of a similarly promiscuous woman as a whore, a
    slut or a sleeze. The typical male likes a submissive woman: one
    that's into shallow sexual experience, but is not demanding. A woman
    who demands respect or demands committment in a relationship is
    often facing rejection by the typical male."     -Consolidated

(p.s. is there a consolidated mailing list?)

Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
           "Always remember the last words of my grandfather.
            He said, `a truck.' "            --  Emo Philips
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Viva...Del Santo!
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:14:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.03537.9776@ms.uky.edu> brian@nx15.mik.uky.edu (Brian hoffman) writes:
>Has anyone else heard this song by Southern Culture on the Skids?  It's
>like the #1 song at our station now and I was just wondering if this was a
>regional thing or what.  It's funny as hell, though.  If you haven't heard
>it, find it, request it or something!
>-Brian


   ..VIVA... DE LA SSSAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

   Great 7".    Perfect for parties.   Great for fiestas.

                                                    K!z!K
From: climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert ( Peter Climie ))
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Where are they now?
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:04:49 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

bgray1@cc.swarthmore.edu (BG) writes:

>Hey!  Anybody have any inkling as to where Sigue Sigue Sputnik or Flock of
>Seagulls are nowadays?  How about Men At Work? (or Collin Hayes?,the lead
>singer)  Feel free to post a reply or send me E-mail...Thanks!

SPutnik have been rumoured to reform.

Tony James was in Sisters of Mercy and left,

Martin Degville done some solo stuff

I think Chris Kavanagh went to Big Audio Dynamite.
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From: c188-am@po.berkeley.edu (Leor Jacobi)
Subject: Re: Syd Barrett/Soup Dragons
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:43:38 GMT

fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:

>In <1992Nov5.153153.15214@ncsu.edu> tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:

>> 
>>This is what I know and think to be correct, though any true Floyd fan will 
>>know the truth better than I. Syd didn't necessarily fry his brain with drugs,
>>his friends did it to him. There's a difference. His "friends" had been putting
>>acid in his coffee like everyday for a while and he was wigging out,but he 
>>didn't know any better cuz he had no idea that they were doing it. 

>This is not true.

Um...actually, I read something to that effect in some book.


>See, acid
>>can take a normally non-creative person and make them creative, but if you 
>>give it to someone like Barret, who's a creative genius, it really sends them 
>>over the top. 


>This is also not true, and it indicates that you know very little about
>LSD.

>Chances are, Barrett would have wigged out eventually anyway, and all the
>LSD he took (on his own initiative), probably only accelerated it. 

No, no, no.
Acid use ordinarily doesn't make people insane.
It's ingesting the drug involuntarily and hence, not knowing when you're
"tripping" that's really dangerous (understandably).
This is what happened to Syd.  People were spiking his food, etc.

>-- 
>    / \      Reverend fnord                 | "King Kong died for your sins!"
>   /   \     fnord@panix.com                | 
>  / <0> \                                   | "Don't just eat a hamburger, 
> /_______\   Church of Obfuscatology, Inc.  |  eat the HELL out of it!"

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 leor@ocf.berkeley.edu    _-\_<,  |  considered citizens, nor should they by
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From: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Mookie Blaylock...
Date: 13 Nov 1992 05:29:25 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

Ok folks....


I have received a zillion replies to this post so I will now tell you how to
get a copy of this disc for your very selves...


FIRST...For those of you who are NOT record collector-scum like myself...

What you want (or need) to do is go to your local indie/underground record
store and look for a copy of a magazine called "Goldmine"....

Goldmine is a giant collection of ads from mail order houses, importers, 
bootleggers (or rare live recording dealers if you prefer), and collector-
scum....All the above are hawking neat stuff for sale or trade...There is
usually a decent cover article, a few other articles, and about 75-100
pages of ads...Scour these ads till you find some place that sells a disc
called "Mookie Blaylock Demos" on Evenflow Records...This is the disc you 
want...It should run you about $20-25 (all dollar amounts are $US)...

If you cant find Goldmine look for "DisCoveries..." this magazine is in the 
same vein...

SECOND...For those of you who dont go to school at Bumblefuck University 
at Nowhere...look in a local indie record store that stocks bootlegs and
imports and see if owner/buyer can order one for ya...I believe this disc
is German in origin...but Im not sure....For those of you who live/go to 
school in a location that is not near a decent record store..(Bucknell comes
to mind...as does any U.Wis. school not in Milwaukee or Madison) you can
write to Goldmine at an address I will post sometime on Friday...


Getting this disc through a local record store will run you about $30 plus
tax....

THIRD...I can try to track the disc down for you...They sell here for about
$30...Tack on postage and money for my time (a nominal fee based on how much 
bullshit is entailed in getting a disc) the total should run about $40...
No more than that unless the local shops have jacked the price on this thing
recently....BTW I will mail 1st class express.

Also...I didnt mean to flame any schools above...I meant simply that there are
few decent record stores in those areas...


Ok?
Hope this helps.

Later.
-Justin.
Email any questions or comments to me at 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
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Silly me.
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From: 900361p@ace.acadiau.ca (MICHAEL CHARLES PIERCEY)
Subject: NoMeansNo
Organization: Acadia University
Distribution: normal
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:13:38 GMT

I'm glad that a LOT more people than I thought are into NoMeansNo.  It makes 
me happy.  
	"A shake of the hand, a knife in the back"

							miek
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jkennard@scott.skidmore.edu (james kennard)
Subject: Re: CD for sale
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:46:01 GMT

lcwu@athena.mit.edu (Lawren C Wu) writes:
> For sale:
> 
> Cocteau Twins: Head Over Heels/Sunburst and Sunblind   CD
> $8.50, including postage.
> 
> Please reply directly to me.  Thanks.
> 
> Lawren
> lcwu@athena.mit.edu
just trying to post. sorry.
From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sonic Boom
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:42:15 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Sonic Boom has formed a new band called Spectrum who are a bit like
Spiritualized but with a trippy dance edge and nowhere near as good.  They've
released a few singles but nothing special.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mwasson@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins Lyrics
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:18:47 GMT

I always thought the cool thing about Liz was that she sang in a
language spoken by no other human beings.

______________________________________________________________________
Mike Wasson    ---   U.Hawai'i, Manoa   ---   Fat Messiah Games
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