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From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Sheffield Derby Result
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:45:35 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
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Well I haven't seen anything about this posted yet (mind you our
newsfeed seems not too reliable at the moment).....so

United 1 (Littlejohn about 70 mins) Wednesday 1 (Hirst 84)

So the Owls finally get something out of United, and about time too! I
had to watch this on Sky on a mate's couch (tickets hard to come by in
Sheffield 2), which probably made it even more nerve racking, especially
with Woods looking anything but England's no. 1. Why is this guy the picture 
of composure for England and a bundle of nerves in Sheffield derbies?

Anyway, I think most agreed this was a fair result in the end. The first
half was scoreless, with honours just about even (Deane hit the bar,
Kelly made a very good double save). The Wednesday side had a rather
unusual appearance with Palmer playing in defence for about the 2nd time
in his career at Hillsborough, and Sheridan and Bart-Williams in centre
midfield. Its always assumed that its a choice between those two for a
place alongside Palmer in midfield, but no-one expecetd both there! At
the end of the day this tactic just about paid off I think, especially
putting Palmer at the back to deal with Deane.

The second half was much more lively, with Wednesday controlling the
first 5 mins, then United had us under the cosh for about 10-15 mins
until they scored. Typically, this came from a corner with Woods
nowhere, and Deane heading down for Littlejohn to fortunately be just in
the right place to squeeze it passed Wilson on the line. After that it
was a matter of if we could get an equaliser, with United not making
much of their lead. Warhurst came on for Sheridan to give extra options
up front and this seemd to spur us on. He even knocked one in, but
Bright was given offside (correctly on the replay, but it seemed ages
for the ref to give it). Just when things looked like never going right,
Hirst ran from deep, played a great one-two with Waddle, took the return
in his stride, and fired past Kelly. Magic! The moment we'd all waited
for. After that Bright missed a sitter, then had one well saved, so we
could have won it. But looking back I think we were glad to have only
concede one from their earlier spell.

So, much relief all round for Owls fans (we can hold our heads up at
last!), and should also keep Mr Intelligent from Nottiingham off the net!
And hello to Duncan in Hawaii, a more sane face of United, you didn't get
us this time!

Last time we drew at the Lane 1-1, we won the other match 4-0...if
only........

Up the Owls (and thank god for Hirsty!)

gordon
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From: vdschoot@csi.UOttawa.CA (Hans van der Schoot)
Subject: Re: Results of English teams in Euro cups
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 17:45:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.232529.24130@wam.umd.edu>, waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach) writes:
|> Champions' Cup
|> --------------
|> Leeds 5 - Rangers 2
        ^^^
I'm sorry, Leeds scored only one goal.
|> 
|> Leeds advances. First leg was Rangers 2 - Leeds 1.
   ^^^^^
I'm sorry again, Rangers advance

Hans.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: ECUADORIAN LEAGUE
From: <XJRQB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 9 Nov 1992 00:33:46 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi friends, these are the results of the games played Sunday 8:

In Quito:   Nacional 2 - D. Quito 1

In Guayaquil:  Emelec 5 - Liga 0

In Manta:   Green Cross 0 - Barcelona 1

Standings after the ninth round:

Barcelona, Emelec, Nacional  13p.
Liga, Green Cross   7p.
D. Quito  5p.

Next week features are as follows:

In Quito: Nacional - Emelec

          D. Quito - Green Cross

In Guayaquil:  Barcelona - Liga


Well, next Sunday is the last round of the championship and the table is
very tight and a lot of things could happen. First, lets eliminate of any
possibility to Green Cross, Liga and D. Quito, that no matter what the results
would be they have no chance of getting even the second spot to the Copa
Libertadores.


Second, Barcelona would have the best chance of being the champion by winning
to a weak Liga, since they play in Guayaquil. Meanwhile the other 2 teams
Nacional and Emelec will play in Quito giving a certain advantage to Nacional,
but considering that a tie is possible, Barcelona would be the champion.
If Barcelona wins as well as Nacional or Emelec, they usually play 2 games to
determine the champion.

I hope I haven't confuse you. Anyway lets wait until Sunday.

Best regards,

Xavier
From: paulr@boi.hp.com (Paul Rolig)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rules Query
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:40:06 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

Josef (and Keith)

On the contrary, the rule quoted by Josef is still very much
a part of the Laws of the Game, and is still quite relevant.

It is Law XII, paragraph number 5, relating to various
restrictions on the goalkeeper.  The rule states that once
the goalkeeper has controlled the ball with his hands (or arms)
and has intentionally released the ball back into play, the
goalkeeper cannot again control the ball with his hands (or
arms) until the ball has been touched by one of his own team
outside their penalty area or by an opponent anywhere on the
field.  This does NOT prohibit the goalkeeper's teammates
from touching and playing the ball inside their own penalty
area when it has been put down by the goalkeeper!  It only
means that the goalkeeper cannot again use his hands or arms
on the ball until it has gone outside the penalty area and
has been played out there by one of his teammates (not himself)
back into the penalty area.  The new rule says that this play
of the ball to the goalkeeper by a teammate must not be with
a foot or the feet if the goalkeeper wants to pick the ball
up with his hands.  It could be played to the goalkeeper from
the head, chest, or thigh, or knee, and be handled by the
goalkeeper.  Note, however, that an obvious artifice used to
get around the letter of the law, but in violation of its
spirit, is to be penalized not only by the IFK (Indirect
Free-Kick), but also by cautioning the guilty player.  This
means that a teammate of the goalkeeper who is under no
pressure cannot use his feet to juggle the ball up to his
head and head it to his goalkeeper and have the goalkeeper
catch it with his hands.

Sorry, Keith, you should not have given the IFK.  Don't feel
bad--I've committed worse mistakes as a Referee.  Live and
learn!  :-)

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From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: WC Qualifier Result Wanted: Albania vs Latvia (Nov 11)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 19:48:31 GMT
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Can some kind soul forward me the result of the WC Qualifier played Nov 11
between Albania and Latvia?  Thanks in advance.

Brad

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Subject: Re: Rangers Match Report
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:24:33 +0000







In article <1992Nov5.124746.1517@syma.sussex.ac.uk> davidc@syma.sussex.ac.uk
(David Corr)

>>From article <1992Nov5.115640.6046@spider.co.uk>, by scottj@spider.co.uk (Scot
t
 Jackson):
>> Played on Wednesday 4th November
>> European Cup Second Round Second Leg
>>
>> Leeds Utd. 1  Rangers   2
>>
>> Cantona 85    Hateley 2
>>               McCoist 58
>>
>> Rangers win 4-2 on aggregate
>>
>> Att. 25,000
>>
>> My, what a really intimidating atmosphere Elland Road has, and how does it go

>> "we're not in the habit of losing in our own midden", well Rangers
>> effectively crowned themselves as British Champions with the gubbing of the
>> English Champions in their own midden. Adhering to the plea not to travel,
>> nine of my mates had tickets and did, the lads assembled in the rub-a-dub-dub

>>  Scotland
..........Stuff deleted........

>I guess Rangers just got the lucky breaks on the night from what i saw!!!

I guess you saw a different match from the rest of us.

So much for Leeds' famous unbeaten home run of just 17 matches in all
competitions dating back to January when Man Utd knocked them out of the
Rumbelows Cup and FA Cup in the space of 10 days at Elland Road.

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Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 09:06:34 CET
From: <FRUGGIER@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Racism (was Re: Everton in danger!!!)
 <16895C785.074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za>
 <1992Nov4.155350.10735@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>

Sorry but lets try not to paint Everton supporters whiter than white..
As an ex-season ticket holder at Anfield, the worst racial abuse I ever
witnessed was by Everton supporters - their target being John Barnes. This
occurred during his first few derby games where the tirade was ceaseless. These
instances were well documented in the Echo and national UK press. Thankfully
they more or less stopped after a couple of seasons.
Cheers,
Rico Ruggiero
ESTEC, The Netherlands.
From: james@hisoft.com (James C. Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English Soccer
Date: 12 Nov 1992 09:15:14 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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->    Lesson 3:
-> 
->    The Dutch national team is the best in the world 

But not in Europe...
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From: timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield)
Subject: Re: Rangers Match Report
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:44:29 GMT


> Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk abuse  031-554-9424
> Spider Systems Limited     
> Edinburry                               FOUR IN A ROW
> Scotland

Well I am a completely unbiased observer when it comes to Rangers-Celtic
stuff but I would say it would be quite safe to change your .sig to:
 
Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk abuse  031-554-9424
Spider Systems Limited     
Edinburry                               FIVE IN A ROW
Scotland


Doubtless you've already thought of it but are being more cautious.

Besides, "football is a funny game", they say, and ANYTHING could happen yet,
so I may be wrong on this ...

Just my $0.02

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From: vittorio@themis.cs.umass.edu (Scarano Vittorio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Maradona!??
Keywords: Maradona, Spanish League
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:41:11 GMT
Reply-To: vittorio@themis.cs.umass.edu (Scarano Vittorio)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

Does anybody know what Diego Maradona is doing in the Spanish League?
Is he playing well? And what about his physical shape...

I know that his new Spanish club has not yet payed Napoli team, and it
could give trouble to FIFA which strongly endorsed the Maradona
"rentree'"....Thanks

Vittorio
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Kharin
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:29:51 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <2175@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>, ajc5@ukc.ac.uk (A.J.Caul) writes:
> In article <9211081002.AA06881@teg.cs.umu.se> dvlkhh@cs.umu.se writes:
>>
>>    I heard this shocking news on France Inter yesterday.
>>Dmitrij Kharin, goalie of CSKA Moscow and playing very well for CIS 
>>in Euro92, has been transferred to an English team. The timing of this
>>transfer is really strange since CSKA have reached the final eight in the 
>>Champions' Cup.
>>
>>Kent
> 
> Transferred to Chelsea according to Sunday's papers and not a big fee(would
> probably equate to 5% of Man City's defence).  A decent goalkeeper would
> be a novel idea at Chelsea who are close to putting a good team together.   

Being close to putting a good team together is another novel idea for Chelsea
:-). This season looks all too familiar for the blues - unexpected wins away
and poor performances at home though the ratio is somewhat better than I've
been used to in recent years.

Alan
From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Soccer in USA 94
Date: 12 Nov 1992 08:54:54 -0600
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Comments by:       JZeevi@users@swri03
Comments:      

Sent to me by mistake :

   -------------------------- [Original Message] -------------------------      

Its amazing that people can get on a soap box and shout completly untrue stuff.
To the yahoo, please don't ever come to my country, you would not be welcome.

Andy B
From: cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rangers Match Report
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:54:40 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <MNEWS.721653560.26947@gate.demon.co.uk>, J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (J.M.Ross) writes:
>
>>>>>Loads of crap implications that there is some kind of sectarian flag
flying policy at Celtic park.

 
> I've never noticed a Scottish flag flying at Parkhead, but then I've
> never looked very closely ...

 
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> 
This kind of crap really pisses me off.
Above the entrance to Celtic Park(i.e. the new facade of the stand) and very
prominantly displayed, fly
1. THE UNION JACK-this is the British flag
2. THE SCOTTISH SALTIRE (ST. ANDREWS FLAG)-THE SCOTTISH FLAG
3. THE CELTIC FLAG i.e. a flag with the Celtic emblem on it.
These flags are proudly flown at all times.
These flags have pride of place.
This fact is seldom recognised.

Above the Jungle, the Irish Tricolour is always flown from the pole at the west
end, on the east end a Celtic Flag(green and white stripes) or the League
Championship Flag(not for a while:-() are always flown. The 4 or 5 flag poles
in between display a variety of flags from throughout the world.  When Celtic
played Dortmund, the German Flag was flown.  The national flag of a visiting
team is always flown.  The Italian Flag is displayed frequently. I wouldn't
recognise the Polish flag but I'm sure that it is one of many that is shown.
Recently, flags representing the newly independant states of the USSR were
flown(or so I was told). Simply,all manner of national flags are flown above
the Jungle and these are changed frequently.

Those looking for bigoted,sectarian messages from the flags should probably look
to themselves. What they find may not be so contrived.


Chris
aka Sean "Flagged off" Subterranean
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish scores
From: sgilmou@eis.calstate.edu (Stephen Gilmour)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:32:00 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Celtic 0	Rangers 1
		Durrant 33

Dundee 1	Aberdeen 2

Falkirk 5	Airdrie 1

Hearts 1	Hibs 0
Baird

Motherwell 0	Partick 2

St Johnstone 2	Dundee Utd 1
Date: Friday, 13 Nov 1992 13:13:16 CET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Euro-teams summary?
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>
>Hello!
>
>I've read all those Euro-cup-lists, about UEFA-points for countries.
>I wonder if someone has a statistical list of the 100 (1000?) best club-
>teams in Europe? A time ago I read that a German newspaper did publish
>such a list, with AS Roma on the first spot...

The German sports magazine Kicker publishes such a list every now and then
(and I think, but am not sure, that Voetbal International also does, the
same list), which is, in my not so humble opinion, rather ludicrous. It's
based on the percentage points in the domestic competitions, where the
strength of these competitions is measured by the "UEFA-coefficients",
and some bonuses for domestic and European cup competitions.
AS Roma may well have been on first spot at the end of last year, which just
goes to show how silly the whole idea is. Football is not tennis.
Nobody needs a list to see that Milan is currently by far the best team
in Europe, if not the world.

>
>Can anyone post something like that? Or a list with all teams that have
>ever participated in the Euro-cups with their games and points mentioned?
>I wonder who's first then! Real? Benfica? Milan? Ajax? Liverpool? Bayern?
>Barcelona?

For the Champion's Cup, Real Madrid, second Benfica. Ajax would come in
fifth I think, behind Bayern and Liverpool, just ahead of Celtic.
Juventus, Inter and Milan come later because they haven't been similarly
dominant in the domestic championship.
Your (and my :-) beloved PSV should just have passed Feyenoord with the
win over AEK, and linger around 20th place.
For all European cups together, and counting the predecessor of the UEFA
Cup (the "Fairs Cup", resp. "Runners Up Cup"), Barcelona is first.
This is just by ranking on points obtained, not averaged over games
played.

Cheers,
Karel
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Subject: Re: Russians s**t on Liverpool
From: ioffe@chen.bgu.ac.il (Alex Ioffe)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:40:02 GMT
Organization: Ben Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

chmhl@nuscc.nus.sg (Dr L J Harrison) writes:
: I can't remember who Liverpool played last night. However, Liverpool
: lost 2-0.
:
: Poor Denise.
:
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Liverpool played Spartak(Moscow), the best Russian team.
Spartak won the first game in Moscow 4-2!!!!


SPARTAK - CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: French EC draw
Date: 9 Nov 1992 19:02:03 -0600
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    Euro Cup draw.

    Champions' Cup, Olympique Marseille was drawn in a group including:
         CSKA Moscow, Club Bruge and Rangers (Glasgow).
         Normally, a very good draw even if they missed the weakest team 
         IFK Goeteborg (to my big disappointment since Swedish TV will show all
         tehir matches :-(). The current form of OM aren't promising, though.
         They start with a visit to Glasgow and "not a particularly good
         stadium" :-) A point there is a must. The Belgians are probably the
         toughest opponents. No, sorry, the worst opponent is the OM 
         confidence! (Tapie has only hismelf to balme for that...)

    UEFA CUP:
         Paris Saint-Germain FC   v         RSC Anderlecht
         Standard Liege           v         AJ Auxerre

    IMHO, the French clubs are favourites, but can't take it easy.

    First leg the 25th of November and second leg the 9th of December.


Kent
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