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From: vincent@cad.gatech.edu (Vincent Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Sun's new policy with product license codes
Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:11:14 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: cae.cad.gatech.edu

I hate this kind of junk. We pay to be part of the 
Sun ScholarLine, and for instance now with SparcWorks and it's compilers,
I have to set up a license manager and authorization codes for
each of the 5 sub-products individually. This is the kind of
Mickey-Mouse junk I've come to expect from Dec, not from Sun.

I would rather they not have lowered the ScholarLine prices 
and kept things the old way. This floating license junk does me 
no good anyway. The first time we run out of licenses because I
have fewer licenses than I do machines I'll get screamed at. So I
end up having to get 7 license setups for 7 Sparcs for each of the
5 sub-products.  I don't mind having to punch in long strings of codes
every 6 months for 3rd-party applications like I-DEAS, but for the
languages is just too ridiculous. Not that I'm wildy ecstatic about that.
Lots of different individual platforms to run around to and type in
long strings of numbers. BLEH!

Oops, the license manager crashed! So you get 10 irate phone calls
at 1AM from graduate students who have projects due the next day.
So will Sun start having 2-user, 8-user, etc login limits, and force
you to type in new codes every year to keep things working? I'll vote
with my feet thank you and take my future business to SGI or wherever.
I have a finite amount of time for all these tedious admin tasks
and this new policy is certainly not welcome. 

I saw something on rec.humor.funny about "cat" and "ls" being in
future licensed separately from Unix on a yearly basis. Seemed
absurdly funny at the time. Now I realize it was not a joke, but
a prediction. 

Say, does anyone have addresses or names of muckety-mucks at Sun?
I'm plenty peeved and will gladly write off some nasty-grams to 'em.
From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Subject: Re: kernel build problem revisited
Keywords: kernel, build
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:44:09 GMT

joanne@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Joanne Shimada) writes:

>>Any help is appreciated.
>>
>>[... deleted ...]
>>
>>loading vmunix
>>ld: Undefined symbol
>>   _prom_get_boot_dev_name
>>[... deleted ...]
>>make: *** [vmunix] Error 2
>>
>>Chris Carr
>>****************************************************************************
>>carr@cs.umn.edu

>One of my coworkers had a similar problem on a 670 running 4.1.2.
>It turned out that he was (mistakenly) invoking gcc instead of the
>bundled C compiler; using /bin/cc fixed the problem.

>OBJS += $(LIBPROM)

It's not the compiler, it's the make(1) program used. You can't build
a kernel using GNU make, as it will not interpret the above line
as Sun make does.

Casper
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From: mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills)
Subject: Re: Problem w. dial-in modem (ZyXEL)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:22:26 GMT

In <1993Jan5.232548.5140@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> x03@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (A. Stegmeier) writes:

>The SUN is behaving in a very strange way:
>I can dial in, the modem goes off-hook, I get a connect and garbage is
>displayed on the screen.

The garbage will be the login prompt at the wrong bit rate.

>A ps on the SUN shows that getty invokes a login if you press enough keys or
>send enough breaks from the pc. Furthermore login gets terminated correctly
>if I hang up or it is timed out, afterwards getty shows up again.

Sounds normal.  You might try setting S38=8 to fix the bit rate in answer
mode, and set S18=2 to set that rate to 38400.
-- 
-Gary Mills-         -Networking Group-          -U of M Computer Services-
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From: osh@cray.com (O'Shaughnessy John)
Subject: TOSHIBA CD-ROM on IPX ?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc, Mendota Heights, MN
Distribution: na
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:17:00 CST

Greetings,

What steps are necessary to activate a Toshiba CD-ROM on an IPX running 4.1.3?

I've got the device set to SCSI address 6, and scsi-probe sees it, yet I get
an unrecognized vendor message during boot.  If I try to mount the drive,
the CD-ROM access light lights, but it times out after a few minutes, with
error messages at the console.


Any ideas or pointers to the information would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks!

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From: scott@pars.edsg.hac.com (E. Scott Channell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Strange behavior of OW 3.0 xdm
Keywords: xdm, xterm
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:51:00 GMT
Reply-To: scott@pars.edsg.hac.com (E. Scott Channell)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

In article <1993Jan6.173708.23510@cs.tulane.edu> wbt@cs.tulane.edu (Bill Thomason) writes:
>Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-23404]: proteus
>
>I'm running OW 3.0 and xdm that's come with the OW 3.0 distribution on
>ELC's running SunOS 4.1.3.
>
>I logged in on the console of a workstation and xdm started up the Open Look
>window manager as usual and I was able to go about my business.  I noticed
>a quirk at the end when I exited the environment.  The text login prompt
>appeared on the screen and the xnews server didn't restart immediately.
>In fact, it remained like this for about 10-15 minutes until the xnews server
>and xdm restarted.
>
>While the text login prompt was visible, I was able to log in and noticed
>that the xdm process was swapped out and the xnews server was no where to be
>found.  During this text login session, xdm restarted and I had to log in
>through xdm so I could kill off my suspended login session.
>
>The problem doesn't consistently appear but when it does appear it could
>cause some big problems for someone who just sat down and logged in.
>
>Has anyone seen this problem?  If so, were you able to fix it and how?
>
>many thanks,
>-bill

I have seen a problem related to the one that Bill reports :

I have been experimenting with getting our Xterms properly connected
to our Sun Workstations :
	Xterms :	Digital VXT2000
	Suns :		690MP & SS2
	OS :		SunOS 4.1.3
	OpenWindows :	V 3

For an "IPX" session (vs. telnet) the host computer is required to have
xdm running. I created a session script and tested the xdm daemon on the
SS2 and everything seemed to work correctly. On the 690MP however the
console seems to be fouled up whenever the xdm is submitted. In one test
I submitted xdm on the 690 from the console and outside of OpenWindows,
immediatly after xdm was started the keyboard would no longer respond
correctly (all keys appeared to be remapped). In another test I
submitted xdm from the console running OpenWindows, this time the
console's colormap was messed up. In both situations the Xterm still
could not communicate with the 690 and, to fix the console, I rebooted
the computer.

I have filed a description of this problem with Sun and hope to hear
soon. If anyone has discovered a work around for this problem please
let me know what you did. If I get a responce from Sun with a fix I'll
post it to the net.

Thanks,
	Scott Channell


Hughes Aircraft Co.		voice:	(310) 616-1059
Image and Signal Processing Lab	addr:	scott@tcville.hac.com
PO Box 902, EO/E01/B125, El Segundo, Ca. 90245
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de (Michael Wollborn)
Subject: Re: Limit to number of netgroups?
Reply-To: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:02:24 GMT

In article 21888@csoc.COM, benny@csoc.COM (Benny Clark) writes:
>Under SunOS 4.1.x, is there any limit to the number of machines
>I can have in one netgroup?  Also, is there a limit to the 
>number of netgroups I can have?
>
>Please email me if you have any info.
>
>Thanks,
>
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I think there is no limit in number of netgroups you can have. The
number of machines in one netgroup is limited by the amount of
bytes for each netgroup. I think the maximum is 1024 bytes, but 
I don't know exactly. It may be also 256 bytes, but there is a
maximum number.

Hope this helps, Michael


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From: ramana@brushfire.rutgers.edu (Ramana Isukapalli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Help with modem
Keywords: Modem, dialing
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:56:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



 Hi, I need some help regarding attaching a modem to an IRIS
 workstation. We have a SG Iris workstation, that is not on the
 internet.  We are trying to attach a modem (telebit trailblazer)
 to it.  The software we are using for dialing is /usr/etc/slip.

 As given in the manuals, I have changed the /usr/lib/uucp/Systems,
 /usr/lib/uucp/Devices and /usr/lib/uucp/Dialcodes files.  The changes
 basically indicate that a modem is attached to the computer at a
 specific port, and they also gives the dialing number, the hostname
 at the other end to login after successful dialing.

 The problems I have right now are :

   The computer can identify the device, but it cannot dial.  There
   are no errors that come up when I try to dial.  To debug, I used
   the following.

     cu -s 9600 -l /dev/ttym2  -- This comes out proplerly, and the
                                  computer can identify the device,
                                  ttym2.

     cu -d remote-host         -- Comes out correctly and there are
                                  no errors.

     /usr/etc/slip -cp comp -r remotehost. -- This just hangs.  It is
                                              supposed to dial the
                                              number given in the
                                              above mentioned files
                                              (or atleast that is my
                                              understanding).

  Can you please tell me :

    1.  Where am I making a mistake, and what is the reason for not
        dialing ?

    2.  Why are there no error messages atleast ?

    3.  How can I read/change the modem configuration ?  Slip does not
        seem to have any way to access/change the modem setup.  Is
        there something else that does it ? We did not buy any other
        software assuming slip does what is required.

    4.  What is a good source to know of slip on Iris apart from the
        manual pages ?

  Please respond to the email address given below.  Thanks a lot in
  advance.

--------------

  -- Ramana
     email: ramana@paul.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: zwbm07@hou.amoco.com (Walter Moore)
Subject: Can tip prompt for a PIN as part of a phone #?
Keywords: tip phones modem
Reply-To: zwbm07@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:18:24 GMT


Hi!

  I need to dial into a network using tip, and was wondering if there is some 
way to get tip to use each user's PIN? How can I get tip to either prompt for
a personal id. number and include that number in the phone #, OR use data from
a file (that has the user's PIN in it) in the phone number. Note that the PIN
will be different for each user, so I need to be able to have the user specify 
it in some way.  Any ideas? 

Thanks,


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From: John.Martin@newcastle.ac.uk (John Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Anybody using Online:DiskSuite?
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:17:09 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

Hello,

I am considering purchasing the Online: DiskSuite from Sun and was
wondering whether anyone out there could give me the low-down before I
part with the cash. Is it worth the money? Is it as reliable as
claimed? etc. Anything appreciated.

Replies to me please and I will send a summary to this group.

Thanks in advance,

John
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From: sanner@track.physics.usfca.edu (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Need Sun's X fonts in BDF form.
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:52:26 GMT
Organization: University of San Francisco
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


We need to run some of your xview applications on our DECStation 5000.

Unfortunately it does not have any of the lucida-sans fonts or
the olcursor or olglyph fonts so I can not run any OL apps.

I figure if I can get the bdf files of these fonts I can compile them
on my DECStation.

Does anyone know where I can gets these fonts or another way around
this typical Sun font problem?

		Thanks,

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From: lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick)
Subject: Re: Xtree on your Sun?
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mineral Products, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:36:21 GMT

rpinder@hsc.usc.edu (Rich Pinder) writes:

>Can anyone give me feedback on the Xtree utility running on the Sun OS?  We
>have a 670 MP using 4.1.2 SunOS, and one of our users wants to have this
>file management utility loaded.  Personally, I'm not a fan of this utility,
>but am pursuing this in the interest of my user.  

>I hear the utility does some disk maintenence functions, but the tech
>support at Xtree couldn't tell me if they use standard unix commands or if
>they manipulate file tables using their own algorithm (I'm leery ever since
>I had very strange behavior after loading the Norton utility program on a
>SCO Unix box). 

>I'd appreciate hearing anyones experience.

Xtree have a demo copy on floppy disk that will run
for 30days after installation.

As we only had tape drives on our Sun compatable Solbourne we
had to send it to 2 other sites to see if they
could install on their Suns that had floppy drives.

It uses an unextract - unbundle? UNIX utility to get
the files off the floppy.

You have to install it in Superuser mode, as it wants
to change several configuration files and even when we
followed the instructions given - we could not get it to work
on the Suns - it refused to execute?? Don't know why and
we had other jobs to keep us occupied so we didn't find out..  
We are not going to buy a program for UNIX
unless we can see it running on the machine.  AS they don't give out
demos on tape - it doesn't look like we will be getting
Xtree for UNIX for out site workstation.

This is a shame as Xtree For DOS is a very popular utility
on our site for PCs.

One suggestion if you want to make your system as user 
friendly for novices as possible is to 
ftp and compile the public domain pico editor 
that comes with the pine news 
reader.  In theory, Xtree for UNIX allows any editor to
be specified as the default editor  -  and pico is very user friendly.

If you can get the demo copy of Xtree for UNIX working,
my hunch is your novice and new users will be very gratefull
to you.  Those one keystoke commands can be very powerful
and can make copying/backing up/moving very user friendly - 
without those nasty nuances that drive novice UNIX users
nuts.


PS: If someone does have it running on a Solbourne or SUN,
I would like to here from them as well.


Hope this helps,  Lachlan.

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From: george@hsvaic.boeing.com (George Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Intf Error?  Please help!!
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:58:43 GMT
Reply-To: george@hsvaic.boeing.com
Organization: Boeing AI Center, Huntsville, AL

We have a Sun 4/470 with SunOS 4.1.1, and recently our users have
started complaining about getting interactive sessions in which the
following error message is printed on the screen once each second:

Intf Error: Error in RECV [H]. [4]

I've looked all through the manuals and haven't got a clue.

Related information:
 - The session is still usable (if you could ignore the message), i.e., it
   accepts input and produces the correct results.
 - It happens with telnet, but seems not to happen with rlogin.
 - It can happen in shell sessions invoked from emacs, and it can happen
   in text input windows with xmail.
 - Rebooting the system hasn't made the problem go away.
 - It seems to be associated with (only) one `slot' in some system
   table.  If you start a session and this message starts appearing, you
   can open a second session which will be ok.  If you don't open a
   second session, but close the first one and try again, you'll get the
   problem again, no matter how many times you try, until someone else
   creates a new process (or gets this `slot' by whatever mechanism).

If you have any ideas what might be causing this, or suggestions of how
to fix it or track it down, please let me know.

Please respond by EMAIL ONLY.   I'm not able to read this group very often.

George Williams            Huntsville Advanced Computing Group
The Boeing Company         Internet: george@hsvaic.boeing.com
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From: cudcv@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Rob McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: rdist on Sun IPX
Date: 6 Jan 1993 16:45:55 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: sprocket.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1993Jan1.054244.19829@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
writes: 
>>Yes, there are security problems, yes, there are gotchas, but overall it
>>works.  For me, I have a network of now 31 machines.
>
>Try it with several hundred.

How do things perform with a password file of 8000+ lines, 600kB, and a hosts
file of 1200 lines, 100k. without the dbm lookup of NIS ?

Rob
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From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: NFS lockup 
Organization: QUAD Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:45:38 GMT

First some background info on my problem:

/etc/fstab:
.
.
dec1:/ /dec1 nfs rw,noquota,bg 0 0
dec1:/users /dec1/users nfs rw,noquota,bg 0 0
.
.


With the above partitions NFS mounted I have discovered that if 'dec1'
goes down or is halted, trying to change directory form any OW applications
(filemgr, audiotool, ...) to '/' will lock that application AND the
window manager solid. EVERYTHING related to OW stops. I have to wait
for 'dec1' to come back up.

How can I prevent this?

Thanx in advance

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From: bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu (Bob Rahe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: List of SUN Bug fixes
Date: 12 Jan 1993 13:11:37 GMT
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.dtcc.edu

In article <1993Jan12.004209.14900@grebyn.com> mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.165042.17543@uklirb.informatik.uni-kl.de> lott@bogner.informatik.uni-kl.de (Christopher Lott AGSE) writes:
>>
>>On the same subject, is it worth upgrading from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2?
>>(Is this a FAQ?  Sorry if so.)  Is or will there ever be 4.1.3 for
>>sparcs such as the IPX?  Or is our only recourse to jump to 5.0
>>and Solaris (and a whole new set of bugs)?
>>
>We run 4.1.3 on an IPX and an IPC with no problems.  Installed from the
>same CD that went onto our SPARC 2s.  SHouldn't be any issue there.

  And to follow up the follow up, do I have to upgrade NewsPrint from
1.0?  1.0 works fine for what we use it for, we haven't hit the big bugs.
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From: edwin@csri.toronto.edu (Edwin Allum)
Subject: Re: How could I configure Solaris 2.1 to use the netgroup map?
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:43:46 GMT

bussiere@tohi.DMI.USherb.CA (Luc Bussieres) writes:

>passwd: compat
>group:  compat

I've used the following and it works fine:
passwd: files compat
group: files compat

>Before I had change those 2 lines every users that where define in the
>NIS passwd map could log on the machine but they have to reenter there
>password (I didn't found yet the equivalence for the host.equiv file).

It hasn't changed:
Its not host.equiv but /etc/hosts.equiv.

>After I had change it and put "+@staff:" at the end of the passwd file
>and "+" at the end of the group file, I have try a series of command
>which give strange result:

>finger userid : work perfectly if the user is member of the staff group
>su userid     : give this error message: "su: Unknown id: userid"
>login userid  : always give me login incorrect.

I think this is the correct behaviour since you only included users in the
staff netgroup.

Edwin
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From: gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: ROM setting to guard against single user boots.
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:53:05 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Can someone send me the procedure for setting the ROM option which forces one
to type the root password in order to boot single user.  I have several 
SPARC 1's and 640MP's (servers - I do not recall the numbers and I am not in
the office) which I need to protect from this sort of security problem.  
Unfortunatly, we only have Sun's wimpy 3 volume paperback manual set.  If this
is a FAQ, please send a pointer to the file.  Thanks!
						-- GDD
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