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From: jpmakela@cc.helsinki.fi (jP M{kel{)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: BLUES: What's in a name?
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:11:48 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <MISHAE.92Aug19194745@blob.hut.fi>, mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Magic Mike) writes:
>>
>>   i have always been under the impression that the blues(music) was
>>   named from the blues(feeling) which is "psychologically" related
>>   to the color blue.  that is, it is the opposite of "red" which
>>   supposedly signifies "hot" and "excited".  don't know for sure, though.
> 
>  Naaaw, not really. I don't remember the exact story/mytology/whatever
> behind it, but the old, original blues artists were said to be plagued
> by small meanies called the blue devils. These bastards caused the
> terrible pain and suffering the poor artists obviously go through! 

	Well, I don't know about the psychological part, but anyway,
	the word "blues" was common in 18th and early 19th century
	English language and referred to sorrowful or depressed
	feelings. It faded from common use later, but survived where
	the use of language was more conservative, i.e. the southern
	states.

               
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From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: bb king is giving me willie horton
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:21:45 GMT

I live in Dallas and was cycling down Atwater Alley yesterday.  I could
feel the presence of Mr. Atwater(not being serious here) and he  
would be deeply offended by these posts and I think BB King
can do/say whatever he wants about Mr. Atwater.  He probably knew him.
Is there anybody in Netland who also knew Mr. Atwater?  Or are we all
just venting because this is an election year?  Leap years are just always
strange in this country, must be because we have to vote for someone
we have little or no faith in!!

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From: peter.w.chen
Subject: Music Club Meeting at IH
Organization: IH Music Club
Distribution: att
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:12:55 GMT

TUESDAY
Sep 1, 1992 
MUSIC CLUB - 12:00 p.m. to 12:45 p.m. IH 1A-234

The Music Club is a Bell Labs club for music lovers of all tastes.
Our monthly meeting is devoted to listening to and sharing of CDs,
tapes, music catalogs, magazines, and exchange of information in general.
Come by to pick up a copy of our Chicago area radio music calendar,
browse through our libraries and flea market, and find out about all
our exciting activities.  Bring your lunch.

Peter Chen,	979-4679, ihspa!pwyc
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From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Subject: Re: BLUES: Robbin Ford Power Trio recommendations?
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:52:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.220430.27127@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.PEC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Doug Peckler) writes:
>In article <BtM03x.n2I@apollo.hp.com>,
>deal_j@apollo.HP.COM (John Deal) writes:
>>
>>I saw from SunFest 91 on the old VH1 New Visions show the Robbin Ford Trio
>>do a couple of real nice blues tunes (one was 'Help the Poor' but I forget
>>the title of the second one).  Would anybody out there have any recommendations
>>for Robbin Ford blues stuff?

Get Mark Ford w/the Robben Ford Band, avail on CD from 

Blue Rock'It
PO Box 383
Redwood Valley, CA 95470

(I happened to have it at work.)  They have a few other things w/Robben on 
them and another guy who is a Robben clone, Garth Webber.  I'd suggest
the Charles Ford Band - Live on Blue Rock'It, only on record, though.

Also, get The Charles Ford Band on Arhoolie.  Great blues from Robben
when he was 18.  He smoked then too!

Elliott New
From: mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Herb Alpert on Tonight Show!
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:03:14 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <Sep01.062003.60445@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller) writes:
> Herb Alpert was on the Tonight Show touting his new "jazz" (ahem ahem) 
> album (featuring strings of course).  He made one *MAJOR* mistake though. On
> one tune (a taste of honey - yuck!) he had Branford sit it.  Next to Branford,
> Herb sounded like someone who just bought Jamey Abersold's Vol. 1; "An intro.
> to Jazz Improvisation" or the like!
> 

I agree. In fact I think Branford di an absolutely masterful job of 
underlying the total banality of Alpert's licks by echoing them back. 
Alpert was totally CUT on national TV! Branford, thank you.

Bill McHenry                   |Those who do not hear the past works
mchenry@guvax (bitnet)         |are condemned to recompose them....
mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu   |                 -me
From: peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: possible Miles Davis tribute
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:36:27 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park


  Oh, i dunno.  I think Branford ROCKS(Jazzes? :) )!  I think the Tonight show
band is awsome.  They're the main reason i started watching the Tonight show,
'cause i never watched it when Carson was on.
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From: smehta@kwela.nynexst.Com (Sandeep Mehta)
Subject: Re: VICTORIAVILLE '92 schedule
Reply-To: smehta@nynexst.com
Organization: Speech Technology, AI Lab, NYNEX S&T Inc, White Plains, NY
	<1992Aug28.203202.25025@galois.mit.edu> <1992Aug28.224045.29125@bnr.ca>
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:50:03


> jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas) writes:

>  Tell me about it.  $#@%$&^^(*&)(!!! The Braxton concert would have
>  to be played on my wedding night!!!

>  Please, if someone knows if the Braxton Quartet will be playing in 
>  the states, please let us know...

Well this may not be *the* quartet which played NYC in Feb but here's
something from the World Music Institute Interpretations series.

Alvin Lucier, Anthony Braxton,   	     Oct 15, 8pm	Merkin Hall
Arun Prakash, Nageswara Rao & others

/sandeep
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From: jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Who has (have) recorded these songs? (easy one)
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:29:47 GMT
Organization: University of Joensuu

Hiya,

 since this is the only jazz-related newsgroup I could find I'd like to ask
you who has recorded the songs Someone To Watch Over Me and Mr. Sandman.
I know there are probably several artists who have recorded these but
even one name would brighten my day.

Thanks in advance,

Juha Pehkonen
jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi
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From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Subject: Re: Info on Joe Lovano (sp ?)
Reply-To: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:39:17 GMT

In article <HELLERS.92Aug31175321@cleo.wisc.edu> hellers@wisc.edu (Joe Hellerstein) writes:
>back, and they were all smoking with the exception of Scofield, who I
>found pretty pedestrian.

>Joe Hellerstein

I caught Scofield here about 10 months ago with Lovano, and he brought
the house down.  I find him anything but pedestrian, especially his
writing-- everything the quartet played was written by 'Sco.  But
maybe he had a bad night when you saw him...
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From: ctomer+@pitt.edu (Chris Tomer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Duke Robillard/Roomful of Blues
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:49:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I'm interested in the music of guitarist Duke Robillard. Any opinions
about his recordings? 

I'm also interested in getting opinions about the recordings of Roomful of
Blues. 

Any information would be appreciated.

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From: will@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (William Sadler)
Subject: Re: What is Hard Bop?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:22:08 GMT

In <1992Aug26.180648.1261@guvax.georgetown.edu> mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:

> But around 1953-54, 
>when Miles was coming out of his heroin addiction, he started to expand the 
>vocabulary of be-bop by using a broader base of song styles and by playing 
>faster, "harder" runs. So "hard" was the East Coast continuation/extension 
>of be-bop, whereas "cool" continued in the West Coast with (mainly) white 
>players. Hard bop was the dominant style of jazz in the later 1950s and 

Is there a specific album you have in mind here?  It was always my
understanding that hard-bop was the style used by Mingus, Art Blakey,
Cannonball Adderley etc. that was more "funk" oriented than cool
jazz.  Of course, "funk" then meant something different than funk
does now.  Basically a return to blues oriented, hard swinging,
aka Horace Silver type tunes.  Like "better git it in your soul"
and "mercy, mercy, mercy"  Also included were incredibly fast
bebop type tunes like Room 608 (?) which I think is more what you are
describing.

Will


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From: exubma@exu.ericsson.se (Bassam Madi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: New DIW releases -- impressions wanted
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:22:02 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems

In article <1992Aug26.222513.10963@sarah.albany.edu> rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu (Roger Stump) writes:
>David Murray Special Quartet, ???? (with Fred Hopkins, McCoy & Elvin; has
>   versions of Hope/Scope and In a Sentimental Mood)
>
>Impressions, anyone?  Thanks.

I bought DM's Special Quartet yesterday. It is *really* good. DM's 
verion of Coltrane's Cousin Mary is nice. The tempo gradually increases
and it ends up being a very tasty piece that keeps the original Coltrane
spirit but still manages to have its own a la DM personality.
Hope/Scope is nice too. It's a new tune to me and I'm still digesting it.
My favourite tune is a Butch Morris composition, La Tina Lee, a soft dreamy
ballad.
Dexter's Dues  has a bebop feel to it. No complaints there.
Ellington's In a Sentimal Mood is a Ballad that really demands your attention. It
can really put you in a sentimental mood.
 The last is 3D Family, played a bit faster than usual. Elvin's work on that one
 is super.

All in all, the quartet is very tight. M Tyner shows a lot of virtuosity and
versatility. Elvin is very hot and David is as amazing as ever.

Bassam........
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From: mece1xg@Elroy.UH.EDU (purna)
Subject: Re: SRV fans
Reply-To: mece1xg@Elroy.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:38:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.061210.9865@news.duc.auburn.edu>, laurecr@eng.auburn.edu (Chase R. Laurendine) writes:
>
>Hello SRV fans,
>
>	I just had to write and tell you about my newest addition
>to my SRV disk collection.  Its title is _STEVIE RAY VAUGHN, MEGA 
>TRAX V. I_  on LOBSTER RECORDS label, it is a 3 disk collection of 
>live recordings from '83 to '90 with just under 4 hours with 42 
>songs (some repeats).  The recording quality is as good or better 
>than the LIVE, ALIVE album.  I assume it is black market since I have 
>never seen or heard of it anywhere.  The cover and insert are very 
>simple with a silouet of SRV and a list of songs for each CD and where 
>they were recorded.
>
> [CD listing deleted to save net.bandwidth]
>
>     Well I had to tell somebody about it, it's got me pretty excited.
>Has anybody else out there run across this collection or any other 
>unofficial SRV releases, I'd like to hear about it.
>
howdy!

man oh man!  this collection sounds impressive!  where did you get it?
or, if you can't really mention that, how can *I* get it?  you can
e-mail, if you prefer.

peace,
-purna
From: masini@loria.fr (Gerald Masini)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Marsalis Bros.
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:39:15 GMT
Organization: CRIN (CNRS) Nancy - INRIA Lorraine

I've just discovered Branford Marsalis through ``Crazy People Music'' and
Wynton Marsalis through ``The Majesty of the Blues''. I've appreciated them
much and I would like recommandations to hear more.
Thanks.

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From: laurecr@eng.auburn.edu (Chase R. Laurendine)
Subject: Re: SRV Fan
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:55:45 GMT


> hey chase!
> 
> could you perhaps let us know what this CD label is?  also, if there happens
> to be an address of the company on your CD(s) as well?  please?? pretty
> please??  pretty please with sugar on it???? :)
> 
> thanks for the info about Wildman Steve's!
> 
> peace,
> -purna


Sorry, thought I had already mentioned it, the label is LOBSTER Records.  But
like I said, the cover and the insert are pretty simple, no address (since the
disk is an unofficial SRV release, I don't think they wanted there address listed).
The disks were manufactured in Italy, I doubt the label is from there though.
Give the Wild Man a call, he may know more about the label, but I doubt he would
tell you much even if he knew.
    I have received a bunch of e-mails from all over about more information, a few of them in Texas or from Texas.  To each of them I asked if they had any good stories
of seeing any SRV concerts down there and was dissapointed to here that only one of
them had seen him play and only for two songs at a Miller Beer Biggest Party in 
History in 1989.  I even got an e-mail from a big fan from Austin (hey M'Linda).  
I think its pretty funny that a person from Austin would ask someone way over in
Alabama about SRV.:)
    I usually put in a CD when I go to bed to help me go to sleep, and of course
I put CD#1 of the collection in last night.  What a mistake!  I didn't dose off
as usual, I stared at the ceiling for all 79 minutes. It's some good stuff!


 

Chase Laurendine              "Be good and you will be lonesome.", Mark Twain
Auburn University
laurecr@eng.auburn.edu
From: md@sound.esm.rochester.edu (Mike DeMurga)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Butch Morris
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:44:59 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

In article <1992Sep1.013117.632@csrd.uiuc.edu> hsu@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu) writes:
>
>I also like Morris' trio work with Bill Frisell and Wayne Horvitz,
>Todos Santos. There's another trio record that's supposed to be similar.
>
>Bill

I belive you are thinking of the HMP Trio with Morris, Horvitz, and Bobby
Previte, not Frisell (who does duets on Todos Santos with some guy, I
forget...).  I think this disc is all Robin Holcolmb tunes.  The other
trio record is "Nine Below Zero", also on the Sound Aspects label.

Mike
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From: anderson@phage.cshl.org (John Anderson)
Subject: McLaughlin's broken hand and Florianapolis
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:32:37 GMT

1. A while back, someone posted (I think to r.m.b) that John McLaughlin
broke his hand in 1990.  

2. When I saw the JM Trio last May, he said in introducing
'Florianapolis' something to the effect that Florianapolis, Brazil is
a nice town but the jail is not so nice.

I wonder, is there a connection between 1 and 2?
-- 
John Anderson
W.M. Keck Structural Biology Laboratory
Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
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From: hankdtank <hank@waffle.sns.com>
Subject: Re: possible Miles Davis tribute
Organization: Systems'n'Software, Fremont, CA  94539-6669
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:11:40 PDT

I saw that Miles tribute, and I thought it was pretty good. Now for the two 
comments:
 
1) The sound engineer on the "Tonight Show" should be shot!
 
2) I wish Jay would stop fading his voice when he knows he is asking a dumb 
question.  We know its a dumb question/statement, he knows, so he should 
just stop mumbling/fading his voice so he doesn't seem like more of an 
idiot.  He is doing a fine job on the show (AH... off subject. Sorry)

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From: jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: bb king is giving me the blues
Date: 26 Aug 1992 14:57:44 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world, rec, usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo

In article <1992Aug25.200358.23144@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New) writes:
>But Atwater didn't say *anything* about his skin color.  YOU DID!  Atwater

Elliot New, get a clue. It is acknowledged, and has been
since the '88 campaign, that the use of Horton was a racist
tactic designed to scare voters into associating Democrats
with criminality.

The latest acknowledgement of this came in yesterday's New
York Times (August 25, 1992) where the Horton campaign ads
are labeled as one of the most "sinister" aspects of that
presidential race, and as part of a racist divide and
conquer strategy.

No one is making this up. The Republican Party is not above
racism, and to point that out doesn't mark those that
expose it, it marks the racists. Indeed, all major civil
rights organizations condemned the strategy created by
Atwater. The posters here who are commenting on Atwater's
cynicism and manipulation are to be congratulated rather
than ranted at as you have done.


....
jimh@pongo.sun.com
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From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: Miles with John McLaughlin (Jack Johnson record)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  2 SEP 92 15:06:48    


In article <37559@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, pvallado@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paolo Valladolid ) writes...
>>except that most of the time he is comping rather than soloing.  What
>>comping, though!  And his solo at the end of "Right Off" is wild.
> 
>I'm sorry, but that wasn't McLaughlin soloing at the end. It was
>Sonny Sharrock. He just didn't get the credit for it.

I've heard this for years (mostly from interviews with Sonny), and finally
about two days ago I listened carefully to see what was going on.  McLaughlin
is mostly in one channel and Cobham in the other.  Partway through "Right Off"
some echoplex noises start showing up in Cobham's channel.  They are mixed down
somewhat and I used to think it was the keyboards.  This portion definitely
sounds like Sonny's style of playing.  So how come I hadn't noticed this
before???

An interesting aside is that although Herbie Hancock gets keyboard credits,
*he* claims he didn't play on the record!

					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

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From: milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Abdullah Ibrahim (was Re: Hugh Masekela)
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:25:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Sep4.202542.8473
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep4.170222.21146@u.washington.edu>, clements@milton.u.washington.edu (Steve Clements) writes:
> Abdullah Ibrahim comes to mind. Same ballpark, not surprisingly.
 
I've been on an Abdullah Ibrahim kick lately...one reason is that a guy I
study with is also on an Abdullah kick, so we do lots of Abdullah's tunes.

By now I must have eight albums or so (I'll probably forget, but they include:
African River, African Dawn, African Sun, Mantra Mode, Desert Flower, Live
at Montreux) and I'm really impressed with his music.  Some of it is quite
simple, and seems to have an African pop music bent.  Quite soulful, I should
add.  Half his albums seem to be solo piano, and the other half are small
groups.

One tune in particular, "For Coltrane", or "For John Coltrane", that seems
to be from a suite of music that was written for him, is a ballad that is
quite emotional.

Back to the original thread:  not long ago, I bought a Hugh Masekela
album hoping that it had the same sort of African pop music style that
Abdullah adapts to his jazz style.  I'm not sure of the album name, but
it's one of Hugh's newer albums.  A couple of the cuts were as I had
hoped, but the other cuts were more of an American pop music style...
while interesting music, they were not what I was looking for.

These South African guys make for some pretty entertaining listening.
Check it out sometime...and I'd appreciate recommendations for other
listening that's similar to these two.

-- 
Guy Klose
milo@mvuxi.att.com
From: georgen@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (G. Ng)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Marsalis Bros. (Wynton)
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:06:00 GMT
Organization: UTCS Public Access

In article <185m18INNqk8@early-bird.think.com> Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:
>In article <470@muller.loria.fr> Gerald Masini, masini@loria.fr writes:
>>I've just discovered Branford Marsalis through ``Crazy People Music'' and
>>Wynton Marsalis through ``The Majesty of the Blues''. I've appreciated
>them
>>much and I would like recommandations to hear more.
>
>There is a wonderful recording of standards by Wynton and his father on
>piano. Really nice performances.

Standard Time Vol. 3 - "The Resolution of Romance"

An excellent CD.
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