HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bear@nuc.anu.edu.au (Bernhard Fabricius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Task to task decnet problem
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:31:00 GMT
Organization: Nuclear Physics, ANU
Distribution: world
Reply-To: BEAR@NUC.ANU.EDU.AU
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.19.47


In article <1dkt92INNeh6@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes:
>In article <1dkkscINNptf@manuel.anu.edu.au>, bear@nuc.anu.edu.au (Bernhard Fabricius) writes:
[Suggested solution to tranfer problem deleted]
>=This is quick and dirty, but very secure. (And your users need never know...)
>
>You've *GOT* to be kidding.  Anybody with TMPMBX priv and knowledge of the
>MAIL-11 protocol can forge network mail.

Bullshit Carl!
  The alternative of having a priviliged system is far worse. All this account
will be able to do is to receive mail and run a batch-job that copies one or
more specified files to a floppy disk. Where is your problem ? There may be
dickheads around with nothing better to do than writing forged mail messages
with fake sender and so on, but all they'll get out of it is a file on a floppy
disk. I stand by my last line: The solution is quick and dirty _AND_ secure -
compared to just about anything else. If you have a better or different
solution then post it. The original poster wanted advice on a problem. Not a
show off.

And now for the technical content :-)
  Since version 8 of VMS_SHARE now supports _ANY_ RMS file (including
binaries), you could even let the the mail message contain the entire file in
VMS_SHARE format. The "Daemon" on the floppy-disk system would then read all
incoming mail-messages to the PCX account, "unshare" the file-contents and
write to floppy. [Carl could the send his postings to a write-only floopy :-)

Bernhard
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Failures in system security.
Date: 12 Nov 1992 22:58:34 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov12.130323.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, welchb@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
=	Does anyone have a program which monitors the phone object (29) to
=catch "blast" programs.  A blast program is defined as one which allows
=the user to make an unidentified message appear on another user's
=screen (in real time).
=	We have been having a lot of trouble with such users.  (I should
=complain?  They typically tell a pretty girl to report to the computer room.)
=
=	More generally, for an operating system (VMS) which is considered
=so secure, the blast message is a poke in the eye.  I hear that DEC's 
=answer will be to simply remove the phone utility.

That's correct.

=	But a perhaps worse hole is the "fake mail" message, i.e., it uses
=the mail utility (object 27), but the name of the sender is replaced with a
=fake one.  [If I receive a message that says for me to report to the president's
=office at 7am, and act upon it, that is not a secure system.]  It seems to me 
=that DEC could easily change mail to check for this switch, but maybe I do 
=not understand about who is really accessing the object (is it the privileged 
=system or is it the unprivileged user?).  And maybe if DEC changes the mail
=utility, the user will simply be able to supply an alternate one, for
=reasons unclear to me.

I understand that in version 5.5-2 DEC modified things to that to request an
outgoing connection to object 27 one needs SYSPRV.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: EVE specins function? (or 'How to enter hex?')
Date: 10 Nov 1992 09:00:49 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov9.233539.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>, fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes:
=In article <96875@netnews.upenn.edu>, st@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Stephen W. Thompson) writes:
=> Some null characters were in a file received from 'elsewhere'.  I'd like
=> to know how to do a global replace to make the nulls into spaces.
=> How does one enter the null (x'00') character in EVE?
=
=    It would be nice if you could enter a null with CTRL/V CTRL/SPACE
=(I don't have my ascii chart at home, null _is_ CTRL/SPACE isn't it?).

Technically, it's <CTRL-@>, but many terminal will also create a NULL if you use
<CTRL-SPACE>.  And, by the way, <CTRL-V><CTRL-@> works just fine.  Apparently
Stephen didn't know how to produce a null from his keyboard.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: mmata@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: calendar program for VAXstations
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:18:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego Campus
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello,

Is there a calendar program in existence for VAXstations
which allow users to log in and see schedules that other
users had put in? (something like On-Time in the DOS world)
I looked at the decw calendar manual and it looked like that
would only show the schedules of the user and not the schedules
of the other users.

Or, is it possible to make decw calendar use a common calendar
which all the users can write to (and make that the default)?

Thanks, in advance for any help/suggestions.

Mike
mmata@ucsd.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
Subject: Eric Search Site Information Needed.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:45:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Hello all,
  I apologise for what is most likely a simple question for many of you
on the net. I am trying to locate a/some ERIC database sites. I assumed
it  would be an easy task but to my surprise I am  having a darned hard
time finding any. I have a user community of students and teachers here
and the teachers are most interested in using ERIC to help them prepare
material,  papers, etc. Because  the  instructors are, in general,  not
that familier with VMS I have their usage of the machine controlled via
menus so I have to set this up for autoconnects as much as possible.  I
have a  few teachers here who are more conversant with the system but I
am at  a loss for ERIC sites.  If anyone can help with this I extend my
thanks and appreciation to you in advance.
							Jim
======================================================================
   We are rapidly ascending through prosperity to poverty...  Twain
                    Internet:    jim@apsicc.aps.edu
       Albuquerque Public Schools - Instructional System Manager 
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From: jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Account creation utilities?
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:40:09 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

Hi,

	I'm looking for a utility which would allow users who don't
have write access to SYSUAF.DAT to be able to create and modify
accounts. I know such a beast exists, and I recall someone mentioning
it, but I can't seem to find it in the VMS software list.

Thanks in advance.

--
John Hawkinson
jhawk@panix.com
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:17852 vmsnet.sources.d:678
From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sources.d
Subject: Re: Is there a make for VMS?
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:22:28 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Nov11.193031.8317@panix.com>, danix@panix.com (Dan Simoes) writes:
> 
> Subject says it all.  Please reply or followup.

There are several available.  For one that appears to be pretty good,
send the following commands in the body of a mail message to
FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET:

SEND MAKE
SEND FILESERV_TOOLS

They're also available via anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu; you'll
need:

	[.MACRO32]UNZIP.EXE
	[.MACRO32.SAVESETS]MAKE.ZIP

Hunter
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Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University
goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: welchb@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Failures in system security.
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:03:23 GMT

	Does anyone have a program which monitors the phone object (29) to
catch "blast" programs.  A blast program is defined as one which allows
the user to make an unidentified message appear on another user's
screen (in real time).
	We have been having a lot of trouble with such users.  (I should
complain?  They typically tell a pretty girl to report to the computer room.)

	More generally, for an operating system (VMS) which is considered
so secure, the blast message is a poke in the eye.  I hear that DEC's 
answer will be to simply remove the phone utility.
	But a perhaps worse hole is the "fake mail" message, i.e., it uses
the mail utility (object 27), but the name of the sender is replaced with a
fake one.  [If I receive a message that says for me to report to the president's
office at 7am, and act upon it, that is not a secure system.]  It seems to me 
that DEC could easily change mail to check for this switch, but maybe I do 
not understand about who is really accessing the object (is it the privileged 
system or is it the unprivileged user?).  And maybe if DEC changes the mail
utility, the user will simply be able to supply an alternate one, for
reasons unclear to me.
	Does anyone have a program to check for this problem also?  
-- 
Brendan Welch, UMass/Lowell, W1LPG,  welchb@woods.ulowell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: sysop@robot.nuceng.ufl.edu (Shawn A. Clifford)
Subject: Re: Allocated drive problem
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: sysop@robot.nuceng.ufl.edu
Organization: Nuclear Engineering Sciences - Univ. of Florida
Date:  6 Nov 1992 11:28 EST  

In article <1992Nov5.150742.15512@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, dwight@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu writes...
>In article <01GQO9SDSO428Y6MQT@AdminA.RFERL.Org>, SMITHM@AdminA.RFERL.ORG writes:
>|
>|>	 
>|>	I have a problem with a TA90 drive. When I do a  $SH DEV MUA10
>|>	it shows the drive as :    Mounted cached
>|>		                   alloc foreign
>|>
>|>	However, the owner process ID does not exist.
>|>
>|>
>|>	I think the drive was alocated by a remote system (via RTF)
>|>	when the remote system 'crashed', leaving the tape drive 
>|>	allocated by a non-existent process.
>|>
>|>
>|>	Is there a way to "force" deallocation of the device without 
>|>	a reboot.
>|>
>|>
>|>thanks in advance, 
>|>
>|>Michael.
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>			################################
>|>Michael J Smith           X400     : c=US;ad=MCI;pd=RFERL;s=SMITH;g=MICHAEL
>|>Systems Programmer	  INTERNET : SMITHM@RFERL.ORG
>|>RFE/RL inc                Phone    : 089 210  23723
>|>Munich                    Fax      : 089 2102 3752  
>|>Germany
>|>
>|>
> 
>We had a similar problem and there is a bug in the driver software.
>You might need to contact CSC for a "patch" (CSC Patch 245 is
>the one we recieved).
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dwight D. Moore
>Geosciences Computing Network
>University of Oklahoma
> 
>dwight@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu (129.15.40.10)
>These opinions do not necessarily represent the opinions of OU or the GCN.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Have you tried DISMOUNT/ABORT?  I get the same situation all the time because
I will run BACKUP from a child process or batch.  DISMOUNT/ABORT drops the
TK50 for me.

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Nuclear Engineering Sciences      |		sac@eng.ufl.edu
University of Florida             | Home Phone: 904/335-4914
Gainesville, Florida  32611       | Work Phone: 904/392-1450  FAX: 904/392-3380
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no (Per Steinar Iversen)
Subject: GCC and DECwindows.
Reply-To: iversen@vsfys1.fi.uib.no
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 14:30:52 GMT



A very simple question: How do I make GCC search the DECwindows include-
files? I have tried various possibilities, with no luck. A line like
#include <X11/Intrinsic.h>
creates problems. It is not sufficient to rewrite the includes in the program
I am trying to compile, the includefiles in DEW$INCLUDE contain references to
each other too.

-psi (iversen@vsfys1.fi.uib.no)
From: gezelter@rlgsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Followup to "Why can't I halt my system ?"
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:56:38 GMT
Organization: Robert Gezelter Software Consultant, Flushing, NY

In article <1992Nov5.162814.25728@mlb.semi.harris.com>, MBEHR@JAGUAR.ESS.HARRIS.COM (Marc D. Behr) writes:
> 
> Thanks to all that responded to my inquiry as to wht I could not halt my 6410.
> The proplem that I found had nothing to do with the keyswitch position
> (everybodies guess) but rather that the LA120 does not send control characters
                                                     ^^^
> at baud rates higher than 2400. By lowering the rate or using a VT220 at 9600,
> the problem was solved.
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-- 
Marc,
 
That sounds like a hardware problem of some sort. Last time I 
checked, the LA120 should send control characters at all speeds 
without a problem.  
 
- Bob
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: BJJ@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Bryan J Jensen)
Subject: Program control of XLIB transport
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 08:04:59 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Can a DECwindows program specify the X server node AND transport?

XOpenDisplay accepts host::0 and uses DECnet transport.  The manual
implies that you can only use DECnet (or local) transport when you
specify a host.  Is this correct?

I don't wish to use the SET DISPLAY command as that would involve
writing my program in DCL instead of C.
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:17870 vmsnet.sysmgt:338
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: Re: HELP: how to stop and prevent break in?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 19:38:12 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <69356@cup.portal.com>, Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com writes:
>I believe you are merely seeing the file's ownership information expressed
>as a Group and Member -- [GROUP,MEMBER] -- rather than as an Identifier --
>[IDENT] .  And I further believe that this is caused by the absence of an
>Identifier for the file's owner, in the system UAF.

What he's seeing is both the Group and the Member being expressed as
identifiers.  The system manager has apparently entered a group identifier
in SYS$SYSTEM:RIGHTSLIST.DAT. This is done with a command like:
	$ MCR AUTHORIZE ADD/ID/VAL=UIC=[group,*] identifier
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: "George S. Chapman" <p00180@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: DCL Help: Starting a remote DCL file & knowing when it's done
Reply-To: mithrandir@isvnet.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Midwest Stock Exchange
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 01:46:08 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

There are probably several ways to do it.  The one that I use for
starting communication servers on remote nodes in my broker office
system runs something like this:

---  Command file "SAMPLE.COM" on remote machine ---

$ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT SYS$NET:
$   .
$   .
$   .
$ EXIT

( This file must either exist in your default login directory,
  or have a logical name "SAMPLE" pointing to the DEV:[DIR]FILE.COM )

---  Execute it with: ---

$
$ TYPE FOOBAR::"0=SAMPLE"
$

(This assumes proxy access to the remote node)

-------------------------

 =====================================
  George S. Chapman
  Director, Technology Planning
  The Midwest Stock Exchange, Inc.
  Chicago, Illinois; Bangkok Thailand
  mithrandir@isvnet.enet.dec.com
 =====================================

>DATE:   Wed, 4 Nov 1992 18:29:26 GMT
>FROM:   Dave DesRoches <a725911@bugs.mc.ti.com>
>
>A question for the DCL wizards out there...
>
>I have a central system (running VMS 5.5) which needs to start up a DCL file 
>on a remote system - and then "know" when that .com file has completed.  I'd
>like to do it all in DCL if possible - I'll be turning over responsibility 
>for this to a user-group, and an "English program" is preferable to them...
>though the "English" may look obscure with VMS system calls in it.
>
>There are several remote systems which I need to do this for, and they're 
>running different versions of VMS (ranging from 5.1b - 5.5).
>
>Anyone been through this or have any thoughts on how I might get there?  Any 
>help you could provide would be much appreciated...
>
>Thanks and regards,
>
>Dave
> 
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From: CLAUDIO%IFQSC.USP.ANSP.BR@UICVM.UIC.EDU ("Claudio R.De Vincenzi")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Vax 6000 Vector Architecture - need to talk with users.
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:13:29 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 11:57 BRT

Dear info-vax readers,

        we are about to write and compile programs for the Vax 6000-420
vector architecture but we have no experience with the FORTRAN-HPO compiler
and with the vector processors.
        We would like to contact people working with these hardware/software
to exchange experiences, information and, specially, advices. If you are a
vax vector programmer or if you know who is inside it, please tell me their
(or your) e-mail addresses!!!!

Cheers!

Claudio R.Vincenzi
System & Network Manager @ ifqsc.usp.br

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Universidade de Sao Paulo
Instituto de Fisica e Quimica de Sao Carlos
Sao Carlos - SP - Brasil

claudio@ifqsc.usp.br,   claudio@uspfsc.hepnet
47554::claudio,  claudio%ifqsc.usp.br@brfapesp.binet
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From: SKELTON@MMC.BITNET (Hank Skelton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Volume Sets
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:02:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: MMC.01GQSLV08ZAA8WX308
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> >Nigel - We have several volume sets here, and they've worked just fine
> >for us.  One is two 1.1-gb RA90s, another is three RA90s, and the other
> >is four 1.5-gb RA92s.  One of them has tens of thousands of All-In-1
> >files on it.  They're not as efficient as stripe sets, but they don't
> >cost extra money either.  And, as you say, each set fits on a single
> >DAT tape (using data compression).
>
> Have you *ever* had a disk in your bound volume set go bad?!  The bad news
> is that instead of restoring one disk from your tape backups, you'll have to
> restore the *entire* volume set.  When it work, it works good.  Gee, how many
> tapes will it take to restore the four 1.5GB volume set?! And how much time?!

Yes, I have had a disk in a volume set go bad, and yes, it's a bummer.  So
what's your point?  If I need six gigabytes of data on one logical disk
and one of the disks which make up that logical disk crashes, I've got to
restore six gigabytes of data whether it's made up of one disk or a dozen.
I guess I'd rather have a single spindle, but DEC hasn't released the RA99
yet (and never will, of course).  On the other hand, once I've converted
the volume set to a stripe set maybe it'll be a little faster than that
mythical single-spindle RA99.

How many tapes?  Well, as I said earlier, right now it takes one DAT tape
with the volume set 85 percent full; if I put much more data on it, it
may take two.  I don't know exactly how much time it'll take to restore
it -- I'll find that out when I go to striping this weekend.  But last
night it took 3 hours and 50 minutes to back it up (unattended).  It'll
probably take a little longer to restore.

            Hank Skelton - Meharry Medical College
             Computer Center, Nashville, TN 37208
            BITNET: SKELTON@MMC       615/327-6289
          INTERNET: SKELTON%MMC@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU
            "That's my opinion - oughtta be yours"