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From: igo@hri.com (Fred Igo)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM soundtrack
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:46:58 GMT
Reply-To: igo@hri.com
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

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In article <18139@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
> In article <1993Jan25.105830.6631@ludd.luth.se> per@ludd.luth.se (Per Andersson) writes:
> >In <1993Jan22.202839.29895@cs.odu.edu> curtis@opium.cs.odu.edu (vincent curtis) writes:
> 
> >>Yes.  It's called "The Pink Room".  Great tune!
> 
> >Does anobody know the name of the group that played that tune?
> >Have they recorded any albums?
> 
> I think that the band listed in the film -- The Power And The Glory -- isn't
> the one which originally recorded it.  I don't have my FWWM soundtrack
> handy, but I think it was recorded by Lynch's usual studio crew.  Lynch
> himself played percussion, if I remember.


I happen to have a FWWM soundtrack right here.  From the CD insert:


   The Pink Room - Instrumental ++++
   Music: David Lynch

   Keyboards: Andy Armer
   Guitar: David Jaurequi
   Bass: Don Falzone
   Drums: Steven Hodges

   1992 Anlon Music / Bobkind Music

   ++++ Arranged and orchestrated by David Lynch

   "The Pink Room" Recorded at Capitol Recording by David Bianco


Note that none of the above musicians appear on any of the other tracks, 
and no other FWWM tracks were recorded at Capitol.  Could these musicians
be "The Power and the Glory"?


> 
> On the other hand... does anyone know if the band "Thought Gang", who
> back Angelo Badalamenti up on "A Real Indication" and "Black Dog Runs At
> Night", has done any other projects?  Or why Thought Gang was credited on
> those two tracks only, when they appear to be the same studio crew who did
> the rest of the songs?  Was it just because those were the only two tracks
> with vocals?


I assume Thought Gang is Lynch and Badalamenti, working as a team
to write and *perform* songs.  BTW, no studio musicians are listed on 
"The Black Dog Runs at Night".  It looks like the studio musicians are 
backing up Thought Gang, not the other way around. 

What is common between the two tracks:

   By: Thought Gang
   Lyric: David Lynch
   Music: Angelo Badalamenti 
   Vocal: Angelo Badalamenti 
   Piano and Synthesizer: Angelo Badalamenti 
   Percussion: David Lynch
   Arranged and Orchestrated by Angelo Badalamenti and David Lynch


None of the other tracks on the soundtrack have both Lynch and Badalamenti
writing, performing, arranging and orchestrating.  So I assume it's this
teamwork that they call Thought Gang.  

My assumption is based solely on info from the FWWM sleeve, any other 
info about Thought Gang is welcome...  Whoever Thought Gang is, based
on these two songs, I sure hope they produce some more music.

Fred


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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Video Tapes
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:59:44 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
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In article <1993Jan20.093510.7881@cs.hw.ac.uk>, jtodd@cee.hw.ac.uk (John E Todd) writes:

> Talking about videos, I have some, but I don`t know if they start right at
> the beginning. What`s the first scene from TP.

Josie looking in the mirror.  Rather parallel to the last scene, actually.

> Is there a pilot episode as well ??

That's it.
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From: markw@meaddata.com (Mark Wasson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Angel symbol in Twin Peaks
Date: 24 Jan 1993 17:00:55 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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In article <1js80iINNf57@savoy.cc.williams.edu>, 96rpg@williams.edu (the Straw Dogs) writes:
|> i would think that lynch would want to move on to fresher ground. he
|> wasn't happy with the end of the second season, and anyway the actors
|> are getting old. was it just me, or did laura and bobby fail to look
|> reasonably like high school students in FWWM? i was there two years
|> ago... i know whereof i speak.

A typical problem when trying to have series, movies, etc., about
teens.  Look at the 90210 gang - only a couple of those "kids" were in
their teens when the series started.  Pop Quiz - What is the 90210
connection to Twin Peaks? Answer Below.
|> 
|> 
|> a question... anyone know the reason for the unexplained absence of
|> owls in FWWM? were they also gone in the first season (i didn't tape
|> it cos i'm stupid)? apologies if this is on a FAQ somewhere.

There were only one or two references, etc., to owls in the first
season.  Given the gap between the two seasons, Lynch et al had more
time to craft out a direction for the series beyond the WKLP story.

Mark

|> 
|> ---
|> straw dog
|> 
|> "i don't want to talk about trees anymore." --coop
|> 
|> 
Pop Quiz answer:  Johanna Ray did the original casting for both series.
From: rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Angels
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:36:32 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
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In article <DAN.93Jan26134529@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu>,
dan@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) wrote:
> 
> I think Catherine's "angel" story had an element of truth in it.  I am

I agree. I can't go along with Larry on this. I believe she did wind up and
stay at the cabin. I am inclined to believe that someone other than her
brother helped her out and that she doesn't know who (or what) this person
is.

> not entirely convinced that her brother Andrew is, well, alive in the
> conventional sense.  Didn't people see the body, swear he was dead,
> etc. etc.?  Mind you, this is only a hypothesis, but I've always been
> - Dan

We don't know the details. All we are told is that was a boating accident.
One kind of boating accident is when gas fumes accumulate in the bilge and
the boat blows up. If such an accident were rigged with a substitute body,
there might not be enough left to clearly identify it visually.  In the
absence of any suspicions on the part of the police and since Catherine was
in on the deal, they might have proceeded to accept whatever was left as
Andrew without checking things like fingerprints.

-Rich Haller <rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu>   University of Oregon, Eugene, OR,
USA
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:29:16 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

> 
>   I have been wondering about the whole episode myself. I have also been tryi
> to think what the significance of the "wires" (telephone cables?) was. They
> appeared several times in the film and are mentioned in "A Real Indication":-
>   
>   "...
>    And there's WIRES in the air,
>    ..."

 Well, remember that Lynch's favourite theme is the fundamental, primal 
battle between True Good and True Evil (Blue Velvet, Dune, TP to a 
certain extent). My impression was that electricity was simply "evil" -- 
the static TV image when Banks was killed, the ominous wire shots, Cooper 
staring into the FBI security camera, etc.. Nothing good comes out of 
electricty in FWWM.


> 
> -Andrew-
>   

marlowe

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From: zappa@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Apology for the reply
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:27:58 -0600
Summary:                        
Organization: Minnesota State University System

Sorry about the rply to the long comment. I am still trying
to figure out how to use this program.
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM theme in series
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:11:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1993Jan24.154510.8308@csd.uwe.ac.uk> ad_bibby@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Midnight Cowboy) writes:
>ObQuestion:  In the episode where Leo first comes home.
>During the scene where Leo first starts saying "New shoes!", there is music
>in the background, (keyboards) which sounded (to me) like the main theme
>to FWWM - sound quite diff. because its not the mellow trumpet I love, 
>interesting though.  In Eps 12-14, can't remember which one exactly.

Yep, it's the same chords.  They use the same music clip in Ep. #2007 ("new-
shoes!"), #2011 (Coop is interrogated by the guy from Mod Squad) and several
diner scenes.  It's a shame they didn't use the series version on either
soundtrack, I think it's got a really cool-and-detatched sort of eerieness
about it.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: pnorman@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Happy the Man)
Subject: Re: Angels
Summary: ambiguity  
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:23:00 GMT

I think the ambiguity of Catherine's reference to an "angel" (saving her
after the Mill Fire) [her brother/an angel], fits in perfectly with the
series and the film - the reference to angels by Leland, Laura,
Catherine, and God knows who else, is an intentionally ambiguous
reference - it works best that way for me anyway.  Take it is EITHER
Catherine's brother OR "an angel" or a bit of both.  Its the cool
abstract way thet things such as these were dropped here and there thru
out the series that made the atmosphere so delicious!  Yum!

Happy

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From: cs_e404@king.ac.uk (Sean Batten)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: TP on video
Date: 25 Jan 1993 09:08:19 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
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I've just bought episode one of the TP videos available here in England.
On the front cover it says it has programmes 1,2 and 3. However, after
watching it I have discovered it actually episodes 2,3 and 4 from the TV
programme that was screened.

Ah I thought. Theres a TP video here which I guessed must be the first
program as this was a feature length, so of I went to buy it. Getting it
home I sat down and watched it, and guess what. At the end Cooper finds
Mike (the one armed man) in the hospital who tells him that Bob is
reponsible for the killing. Mike then tell Cooper that Bob is in the
hospital basement. Cooper goes down there with Trueman and finds Bob who
admits he killed Laura and that he ws placing letters from his name
(Robert) under the finger nails of his victims. Mike then runs in and
shoots Bob.

Then at the end it jumps forward 25 years and Cooper is sitting in a red
room with the dwarf and Laura. The dwarf then starts to dance and the
film ends.

Now for the question. What has happened to the first episode that was
screened where Laura died. As far as I remember from when I saw it on TV
Cooper has no knowledge of Bob and has never met Mike. The video which I
though was the feature length episode is published by Warner Brothers
whilst the videos with the rest of the series are published by Screen
Entertainments. The videos of the series also claim not to contain the
original plot. I assume this means they are not cut like some of the TV
episodes.

Can someone please explain to me what has happened. What has happened to
the very first feature length program. The Warnder Brothers video is
fine up the the point where Cooper meets Mike and Bob gets killed.

SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!

        Sean Batten

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From: curtis@opium.cs.odu.edu (vincent curtis)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM soundtrack
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:28:39 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va

In article <niklasf.8.727092375@dhhalden.no> niklasf@dhhalden.no (NIKLAS FREDN) writes:
>QUESTION
>
>The song they played while Laura and Donna where at the Bang Bang Cafe (?)
>was realy cool. It was a kind of hypnotic sleazy rock song. And then to the 
>big question : is that one on the soundtrack??
>
>GREAT movie by the way.
>
>
>Niklas Fredn


Yes.  It's called "The Pink Room".  Great tune!

curtis@cs.odu.edu
From: srm1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.r.marcovici)
Subject: Re: 2 Independent Spirit Award nominations for TP:FWWM
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:20:46 GMT
Summary: What is it?
Keywords: actress, score

In article <43802@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs163wdk@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead) writes:
>^Twin Peaks^: Fire Walk With Me has garnered two nominations from the
>Independent Spirit Awards: One for Sheryl Lee (best actress) and one for
>Angelo Badalamenti (best score).
>  [snip snip]
>ed
>
>
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Can you please tell us all what the "Independent Spirit Awards" are (i.e.,
who give's 'em out, based on what criteria, etc...), so I can decide 
if I care or not. ;-)

Thanks.
-Steve   srm@garage.att.com
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: georgen@pooky.cs.mun.ca (George Noel)
Subject: Re: FWWM soundtrack
Summary: Mutterings in the soundtrack
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:55:18 GMT

>
>The first part -- a longer version of it -- is on the soundtrack, titled
>"The Pink Room".  It's great stuff.  You notice a couple of other things
>on the tape too... I could swear there's a voice moaning or muttering
>something in the background, but I can never figure out what.

>
>something evil about "The Black Dog Runs At Night".  I listened to that
>once, driving home alone at around 3 AM, and it really gave me the shivers.
>

 Has anyone managed to pick out what is said in the background right at the
 beginning of "The Black Dog Runs At Night"? Listen to it closely and as soon
 as the first time The Black Dog Runs At Night is said, someone in the 
 background says something like "In Satan's clothing".

 -=*George*=-
 .
From: ad_bibby@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Midnight Cowboy)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: alt.tv.twin-peaks name change
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:45:10 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

Its true that perhaps, yes, that we should change it to alt.fan.david-lynch
or something similar, but lets face it : TP has got to be the most 
significant work Lynch has done to date.  Indeed, keeping the current name
reflects this.  I love the stuff he's done, espesh. Dune and Eraserhead. 
Nuff said.

ObQuestion:  In the episode where Leo first comes home.
During the scene where Leo first starts saying "New shoes!", there is music
in the background, (keyboards) which sounded (to me) like the main theme
to FWWM - sound quite diff. because its not the mellow trumpet I love, 
interesting though.  In Eps 12-14, can't remember which one exactly.


Fun fun fun!

Aron
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From: schuller@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Wayne Schuller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: industrial symphony No1 CHEAP! (melb,aus)
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:50:09 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

I was in Gaslight records (in bourke st, melbourne) today, and i saw
a very big pile of I.S No 1 's going for $10 each!
To say the least, i was very annoyed having bought the vid on import for
$45 at another shop just a few weeks ago.
Still, if you are a lynch fan this is an amazing bargain!
I am prepared to get copies for ppls in other states if they can send me
a cheque or whatever.
thanks
schuller
From: cs163wdk@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: 2 Independent Spirit Award nominations for TP:FWWM
Keywords: actress, score
Date: 21 Jan 93 01:12:53 GMT

^Twin Peaks^: Fire Walk With Me has garnered two nominations from the
Independent Spirit Awards: One for Sheryl Lee (best actress) and one for
Angelo Badalamenti (best score).

Am I the only one who thinks "Questions in a World of Blue" should win
the Oscar for best song?  (And maybe a supporting actor nomination for
Ray Wise?)

ed


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From: zappa@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Angel symbol in Twin Peaks
Date: 23 Jan 93 08:13:51 -0600
Distribution: usa
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <1993Jan22.191645.11528@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, drewds@flash.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Southwood) write> Yes, catherine said that she woke up in the woods after the mill fire> (remember that she rescued shelly).  So, they must have split up> after that.  Catherine said to Truman that a 'guardian angel' must> have saved her.  This also brings to mind the hooded man in black.> This could be a sort of 'anti-angel' in the show.  The man in black> is the one who kidnapped major briggs.  Unfortunately, b




ecause of  > cancellation of the series, we never found out where Briggs was> taken during the time of his disappearance.
> This is why David Lynch should make a movie called Twin Peaks: Finale
> and tie all of the second season themes together.  Otherwise, the
> story is unfinished.  I have little respect for people who can't at
> least finish the series they start.



First of all, David Lynch did not choose to cancel the series.
real seriously about funding an ending when the audience will be very limited.
The only real hope is a made-for-TV ending.  But, it seems unlikely.  You
have no reason to have "little respect" for the man.  It's not really up
to him.  If it were, he would have made the ending or continued the show and
people like you wouldn't be blaming him for your own disatisfaction and
angst because you don't know what happened to Briggs.


Second of all, films aren't cheap and I doubt a producer is going to think

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From: drewds@flash.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Southwood)
Subject: Angel symbol in Twin Peaks
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:16:45 GMT

Yes, catherine said that she woke up in the woods after the mill fire
(remember that she rescued shelly).  So, they must have split up
after that.  Catherine said to Truman that a 'guardian angel' must
have saved her.  This also brings to mind the hooded man in black.
This could be a sort of 'anti-angel' in the show.  The man in black
is the one who kidnapped major briggs.  Unfortunately, because of  
cancellation of the series, we never found out where Briggs was
taken during the time of his disappearance.
This is why David Lynch should make a movie called Twin Peaks: Finale
and tie all of the second season themes together.  Otherwise, the
story is unfinished.  I have little respect for people who can't at
least finish the series they start.
From: per@ludd.luth.se (Per Andersson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM soundtrack
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:58:30 GMT
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In <1993Jan22.202839.29895@cs.odu.edu> curtis@opium.cs.odu.edu (vincent curtis) writes:

>Yes.  It's called "The Pink Room".  Great tune!

>curtis@cs.odu.edu

Does anobody know the name of the group that played that tune?
Have they recorded any albums?


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From: pnorman@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Happy the Man)
Subject: Re: Symbolism in FWWM
Summary: Lelands Death Scene and angels  
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: galaxy  
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:14:06 GMT

In the scene where Leland dies - Coop is holding Leland in his arms, the
water from the sprinklers gushing over them both.  Coop is helping
Leland come to terms with his actions before his death.  Anyone remember
this:
	Leland is "looking to the light" and sees "my angel"...."she's
beautiful".

	Now, in my opinion, this is beautifully ambiguous.  He's
referring to Laura (as a Dad would call his daughter angel) and we can
get really symbolic and interpret Leland's remarks in terms of the angel
theme that ran thru the tv series and the film.  Nifty, huh?  That was a
really great scene wasn't it?  Did it give anyone else chills?  The
shots of Truman and Albert standing in the "rain", backs to the wall,
looking overwhelmed and helpless really sticks in my mind as well.

Happy

-- 
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pnorman@morgan.ucs.mun.ca       | understand, and he who speaks himself
pnorman@kean.ucs.mun.ca         | does not understand, this is 
Memorial Univ. of Nfld. Canada  | metaphysics.     --Voltaire
From: rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: What did the vogueish woman say?
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Date: 23 Jan 1993 22:15:45 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
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In FWWM while Desmond and Stanley are at Hap's Diner, an older man says
"Are you talking about that poor little girl that was murdered?" A young
woman dressed like a Vogue model says something to him that I can't make
out. Anyone out there figure out what she says?

-Rich Haller <rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu>   University of Oregon, Eugene, OR,
USA
From: robk@wswiop01.win.tue.nl (Rob Knubben)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWMM - Questions
Summary: Some questions about FWWM
Keywords: FWWM TP
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:16:13 GMT
Reply-To: robk@win.tue.nl

Hello,

I've recently seen Fire Walk With Me. I really liked it, and I think every
Twin Peaks fan should see it.

I've some questions about the movie:

  - What does the blue rose stand for? (is project BLUEbook related to this?)
  - Why do the grandma and her grandson (Trumont I believe) have a different
    name in the movie? (by the way: in the credits both names are listed,
    the name Trumont between brackets)
  - Why did Laura say "Bobby, you killed Mike". (I believe this has been
    asked before, but I can't remember any answers)

CU,
 Rob Knubben


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