HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: brantley@is.rice.edu (Michael Francis Brantley)
Subject: LERA in New York City
Followup-To: sci.engr.civil
Summary: Opinions/information requested
Keywords: LERA NYC references wanted
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:01:07 GMT

Hello -

	I am writing in an attempt to collect information about Leslie
E. Robertson Associates (LERA) located on East 46th Street in New York
City.  I am told that they are the premier contract structural engineering 
firm in the world, providing engineering support for the most innovative
and challenging projects in the world, an example being the Puerto de 
Vallarta project to be built in Madrid, Spain.

	I would like to hear professional opinions about the quality of 
services offerred by LERA in addition to an idea of how strong the company 
is in the field, how much it values its own people, quality of training 
programs, what kind of future it appears to have, etc.  In short, I'm 
looking to confirm or contradict their claim that they are the most 
prestigious structural engineering firm to work for in the industry today.

Thanks in advance for any opinions you may have - please respond via email
directly, especially if you have less than positive remarks concerning LERA.

Michael Brantley
Office of Networking and Computing Systems
Rice University, Houston, Texas
(brantley@rice.edu)
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From: jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan)
Subject: Reminder for crossposting
Newsgroups: sci.engr.civil,sci.engr
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:22:28 GMT


  This is just a reminder for those who post articles in sci.engr and
  sci.engr.civil to cross-post those ones which may be of interest to the
  wider audience in each other newsgroup.  Articles on fluid mechanics,
  FEM requests, Structures-related articles etc, for instance. I am posting
  this because I occasionally find articles in both newsgroups that could
  be cross-posted but aren't.

  I guess we should remind ourselves of this, now that more and more
  newsgroups are being created under sci.engr  (Hopefully sci.engr.mech
  also will be created soon..).  Engineers should not stick to their
  small `conclaves' and stop hearing about other realed fields.

  Jay.

  R. Jayakrishnan,  Civil Engg, Univ of California, Irvine.

  PS:  Please do not post the articles separately to each newsgroup; just
       cross-post them. Or we will be wasting bandwidth.
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From: carlip@landau.ucdavis.edu (Steve Carlip)
Newsgroups: sci.engr,sci.edu,misc.education,sci.engr.biomed,sci.engr.chem
Subject: Re: Foreign Students / Faculty
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:20:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucdavis.12145
Followup-To: sci.engr
Organization: Physics, UC Davis

In article <GERRY.92Apr9160546@onion.cmu.edu> gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes:
>
>[...]
>   * 2. Do you beleive they discourage women or minorities from the
>eng. profession
>
>Discourage: Many of the foriegners come from middle eastern or
>oriental societies, both of which heavily discriminate against women.  
>
On the other hand, when I was a graduate student at the University of 
Texas at Austin, almost all of the women studying high energy physics
were either Chinese or Latin American.  Their societies are evidently
more successful than ours in encouraging women to go into this field,
at least in my experience.

Steve Carlip
carlip@dirac.ucdavis.edu
From: sef@drutx.ATT.COM (Scott E. Farleigh)
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: Re: The next EUS song!
Summary: The U.S.'s beginning weren't so hot either!
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:33:37 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

$ 
$ >Keywords: EUS song fuck piss
$ 
$ >For all you keen engineers, here is the next sing-song from the
$ >EUS (Engineering Undergraduate Society, University of Queensland, Aust.)
$           (deleted)
$ 
$ From the above trash, one can only conclude that Australian
$ society has not yet overcome its seedy beginnings.
$ What else could explain the transmission of this offensive filth
$ to organizations and individuals throughout the world?
$ 
$ Tony

Hey Tony!

Quit slandering Australia. You may not know that the State of
Georgia started out as a British Penal Colony!

(Tongue firmly planted in cheek) It is obvious that one can only
conclude that Yankee society has not yer overcome its Victorian era
mentality and mid-60's time warp.

Scott Farleigh
Newsgroups: sci.engr
From: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg)
Subject: Re: On-line Information Sources for Engineers
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:07:39 GMT

Several people have asked me if I could post my article here about on-line
information sources for engineers (I only posted a short summary). 
Unfortunately, I don't feel I should be violating the copyright of my
employer, so I won't be posting the entire article on the newgroup.

However, if you are really interested in the subject matter and can't
get a hold of the April 6, 1992 Design News at a library or at work,
send me your postal address and I'll try to send you a copy of the article
(well, I *will* send you a copy of the article unless I somehow get flooded
with too many requests, which I doubt).

Sharon

-- 
Sharon Machlis Gartenberg
Framingham, MA  USA
email: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us   or   uunet!think.com!unixland!sharon
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From: rdmiller@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Ruth D Miller)
Newsgroups: sci.engr,sci.edu,misc.education,sci.engr.biomed,sci.engr.chem
Subject: Re: Foreign Students / Faculty
Date: 13 Apr 1992 16:42:20 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

In article <GERRY.92Apr10111557@onion.cmu.edu> gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes:
>It has gotten to a point, for me, that if a person can not express
>themselves clearly, then I don't care what they are saying.  Trying to

Perhaps then you should be quiet, since you don't seem to be able to do
this.

Ruth

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From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.engr,sci.edu,misc.education,sci.engr.biomed,sci.engr.chem
Subject: Re: Foreign Students / Faculty
Summary: There are no minimum quotas
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:09:40 GMT
Followup-To: sci.engr
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1992Apr10.230637.25918@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
>There is one aspect of foreign students that I haven't seen brought up yet. For a
>university to claim a world class reputation, it needs a world wide student body.
>The reason why (I am told) there are strict quotas on international
>undergraduates is because it is an American institution for undergraduate. The
>graduate schools, however are supposed to be world class, and that's supposed to
>be why we have nearly 40% internationals there. They are important from a
>representaional view. In fact, this is my primary reason for wanting the
>institute to drop its only quota, the cap on undergraduate internationals.

I have been involved in the admissions process at three universities all with
some degree of international reputation, and I do know something about what
happens at others.  In mathematics and statistics, it is the PhD program which
counts here, and the proportions in these programs is very high.  But it is not
maintained to keep some balance, but because Americans do not exist capable and
willing to enter these programs.

-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!pop.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
Newsgroups: sci.engr
From: teodoro@IASTATE.EDU (Elias B Teodoro)
Subject:  Cyclomatic address (maybe in California)???? 
Keywords: Cyclomatic, industries, company
Reply-To: teodoro@IASTATE.EDU (Elias B Teodoro)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:52:17 GMT

	I'm looking for the address/phone/fax/e-mail of:

	Cyclomatic Industries, Inc.

	It is for a friend of mine who knows only the name of the company.
He guess it is in California.

	Thank's in advance.

--

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    #  Elias Teodoro     ===>       teodoro@iastate.edu     #
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Newsgroups: sci.engr,comp.robotics,alt.folklore.college
From: turkel@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Turkel)
Subject: Lego at MIT?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:25:10 GMT

In the latest issue of _Whole Earth Review_ (the one about the Goddess)
there is an article about the Robot Olympics, in which it is claimed
that some design courses and engineering courses at MIT use Lego.

Does anybody have specifics?  Is there a text?  Recommended kits?

Just curious,
Bill
turkel@unixg.ubc.ca
From: pmiles@balin.eecs.wsu.edu (Kilroy was here)
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: Re Legos at MIT
Keywords: Lego
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:30:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Apr9.193030.20659
Organization: Washington State University


Lego's in engineering design is an excellent idea. I am a graduate
student here at Washington State University, and I have used Lego's
for several kinematic design problems. Also, I've used Lego's as a demo
for demostrating kinematic principles in a kinematic course I've TA'd.

The type of Lego's that I am talking about are the Technic Lego's.
These Lego's are excellent for prototyping a design, and for working
out the bugs in a design. I think these Lego's should be used in
universities for demonstrations and prototyping designs.

Kudos for Legos

-- 
Peter J. Miles              
pmiles@eecs.wsu.edu          
Newsgroups: sci.engr
From: machin@elec.uq.oz.au (EUS legend)
Subject: The next EUS song!
Summary: as above
Keywords: EUS song fuck piss
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:15:16 GMT

For all you keen engineers, here is the next sing-song from the
EUS (Engineering Undergraduate Society, University of Queensland, Aust.)

This one entitled (appropriately), "More Beer"
sung to the tune of "For Auld Lang Syne"

MORE BEER - MORE BEER - MORE BEER - MORE BEER
MORE BEER - MORE BEER - MORE BEER,
MORE BEER - MORE BEER - MORE BEER - MORE BEER,
MORE BEER - MORE BEER - MORE BEER.

(repeat until unconscious)

more to come.....
any new songs welcome!
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: induction heaters
From: gl_support@qis.dofasco.ca
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:03:16 GMT
Organization: Dofasco Inc, Hamilton, Ont. Can.
Nntp-Posting-User: gl_support


i was wondering if somebody out there could comment
on a little problem i am trying to figure out.

i'm writing a program to calculate heat transfers in a
steel strip which passes through an induction coil heater.
i've read many a text book recently which deal with cylinders
and cylindical solenoids.  they have been helpful, but i
want to make some assumptions about the reference depth
for the induced current in the strip.  the following diagram
may be helpful.

	/-----------------------------------------------\
       /						 \
      /    |----------------------------------------|	  \
     |     |	steel strip			    |     |
      \    |________________________________________|     /
       \						 /
	\_______________________________________________/
				^
				|-----  induction coil

the coil induces a current in the strip, there by suppling
power to heat the steel.  in text books they use a cylinder
and calculate the power supplied to the work piece as

	        2      2
	P =    I   *  N   *  rho * pi * diameter
	    --------------------------------------
	    reference depth * length of work piece

where
	I   = coil current
	N   = coil turns
	rho = work resistivity

the (rho * pi * diameter) / (depth * length) part of the equation
is the resistance in the strip.  but for a rectangular work
piece in a not-rectangular coil, the induce current won't be
symetrical due to the _end effect_ of the nearly elliptical coil.
the assumption i am working on is that the resistance can be
simplified as follows

	R = rho * width * thickness / (reference depth * length)

this may generate larger errors, but i doubt if i can figure
out the true resistance using magnetic field equations etc.

any suggestions, comments, helpful hints, references, etc.
would be very welcome.

PS	please e-mail responses

==========================================================================
Andrew Cowan                                                  Dofasco Inc.
gl_support@qis.dofasco.ca                           1330 Burlington St. E.
(416)544-3761 x2798                                         Hamilton, Ont.

``From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.''
   What I said is what I think, Dofasco can think whatever it wants to.
Newsgroups: sci.engr
From: ecaxron@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Graham)
Subject: Re: Drinking songs for engineers
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Apr 1992 12:46 EST  

In article <machin.702731909@s1.elec.uq.oz.au>, 
     machin@elec.uq.oz.au (EUS legend) writes...

>A quick song from the Engineering Undergraduate Society (EUS)  repertoire,
>this one dating back to the 60s, entitled "The engineers warcry" [...]
>more filthy EUS songs to follow, stay tuned........

I do hope someone was able to get some mail to this disturbed kid - I
couldn't.  Please don't post any more of this garbage here.  There's a 
group somewhere where you can put it, I'm sure.

I had more fun with "Mr. Bill goes EE."

RG
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From: wkl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Wing-Keong Loke                                               the consummate chronic prevaricator)
Newsgroups: sci.engr,sci.edu,misc.education,sci.engr.biomed,sci.engr.chem
Subject: Re: Foreign Students / Faculty
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:44:25 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

In article <1992Apr10.160158.21200@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> zentner@radon.ecn.purdue.edu (Mike Zentner) writes:
>In article <GERRY.92Apr9160546@onion.cmu.edu> gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes:
>
>Bottom line?  For many of those foreign students who cannot communicate
>effectively, it is their fault because they isolate themselves.  It is
>also the fault of the institution for not insisting upon effective oral
>and written communication.
>
>--
>Mike Zentner

	Yup.  The students don't make a really big effort to learn
in part because there is little incentive to do so.  The example of
vietnamese immigrants who learn the English language in a year or so
speaks for itself.
	At Mississippi State U here, my friend had to falsify his
nationality when applying for dorm housing so that he would not be
lumped in with another foreigner from his own race (He speaks really
good English because he had 6 years of high scholl in England).
	As to the TA's who don't speak English well, let me reassure
you that my friends (orientals) who have had lab classes under these
TA's have complained about them too.  And they're really, really
frustrated.  The problem is, when the complain, the TA is just switched
or they just switch classes.
	I think the situation is analogous to the TA without any
teaching experience being dumped into an intro class to teach so as
to save money.
Newsgroups: sci.engr
From: routd@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: call for a sci. group on LIQUID CRYSTAL TECHNOLOGY.
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:17:38 GMT

hi netters,
I wonder, if we can form a separate sci. group on LIQUID CRYSTAL TECHNOLOGY

I understand it is a very narrow branch, but it is highly multi-disciplinary.

The topics, which I think, could be,

# Physics and chemistry of liquid crystals

# Materials aspects of Liquid Crystal Display (LCD) 

# Electronics involved with LCDs

# Liquid crystal as an electronic material (esp. nonlinear optic material,
bistability, swithching, etc.)

# Liquid crystals of BIological origin and its role in Biotechnology.

# Composites including Liquid crystal polymers with extra-ordinary high
strength materials, coatings,

# liquid crystals in aero-space engg., especially, imaging and sensors.

and many more, which I can't think of rt. now.

Hope, it will revoke some interest enough!!!!!!!!!
======================end====================
Deeleep K. Rout
Chemistry Dept., 
U Mass. Lowell
Ma 01854.
=============================================
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From: wreck@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com (R. Cage)
Newsgroups: sci.engr,sci.edu,misc.education,sci.engr.biomed,sci.engr.chem
Subject: Re: Foreign Students / Faculty
Summary: Minor problems, none difficult to fix.
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:20:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: fmsrl7.1992Apr8.212054.2366
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI

In article <1992Apr8.022921.6693@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> you write:
>* 1. Do you feel FE are assets or burden to the system

They are assets.

>*2. Do you beleive they discourage women or minorities from the eng. profession

Obviously, if they are minorities, they encourage others by example.

>* 3. Do they have any impact on the Salaries (for Faculty or Engineers)

I have no idea.

>* 4. How the system can benifit from their existence in the U.S.

The US gets the benefit of their expertise and expansion of
our community.  The foreign engineers I have worked with have
been among the best I have ever met.

>* 5. For Students taught by Foreign Faculty or TA's, What is your feedback

I had to switch to another Thermodynamics class once when the
section I wound up in had a Chinese TA with an atrocious accent;
the combination of the non-intuitive material, unfamiliar (metric)
units in the book and the utter incomprehensibility of the TA made
it impossible to continue.  I switched to a section of the mech.
eng. thermo course (english units), which had an American TA, and
had no more real problems.  This is the only time I've had language
difficulties with an instructor.

In my opinion, nobody should be put in charge of teaching a
class unless they can communicate intelligibly in the language
of the students.  If this means that some people have to spend
time in the language lab doing intensive speaker training
until they can be understood easily, so be it.

>* 6. Do they need more admin. work (Burden)

I doubt it.

>* 7. Do you have any thoughts or Ideas on the subject "not covered here"

No.
-- 
Russ Cage              wreck@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com  russ%rsi@sharkey.cc.umich.edu
  *  When Ford pays me for my opinions, THEN they can call them theirs. *

                           _Bad_ cop.  No donut.
Newsgroups: sci.engr,sci.edu,misc.education,sci.engr.biomed,sci.engr.chem
From: gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston)
Subject: Re: Foreign Students / Faculty
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:15:57 GMT
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU
Reply-To: gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston)

A follow up:

The post about the employer having to prove that there is no similarly
qualified Amercian... if you believe that, then you'll believe
anything.  Talk to ANYONE that has written a sole-source justification
for a governmental contract.  You can make a 1/4UNC20 bolt seem unique
without even trying hard.

As to the communication ability: When I travelled abroad, I made it a
point to AVOID other Americans and English speakers because part of
the reason for travelling is to learn a new culture and language.  

It has gotten to a point, for me, that if a person can not express
themselves clearly, then I don't care what they are saying.  Trying to
decipher some of the very thick accents around this place takes to
much effort, and the point being made it typically lost in the effort
to understand.  While I have nothing against foreign students, I
believe that the TOEFL exam should be made harder and should require a
spoken portion.  The only reason that many of us can understand our
foreign colleagues is because of many years of practice.

--
Gerry Roston (gerry@cmu.edu)    | The study of theology, as it stands in the
Field Robotics Center,          | Christian churches, is the study of
Carnegie Mellon University      | nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests
Pittsburgh, PA, 15213           | on no principles; it proceeds by no
(412) 268-3856                  | authority; it has no data; it can
                                | demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no
The opinions expressed are mine | conclusion.  Thomas Paine
and do not reflect the official | 
position of CMU, FRC, RedZone,  | 
or any other organization.      |
From: nguye978@Armstrong.EDU (Nguyen)
Newsgroups: sci.engr
Subject: A model for EGR students to learn auxiliary views
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:36:51 GMT
Organization: Armstrong State College, Savannah, GA






   Hi !  I hope that this is the right group to post my question.
I am undergraduate student, and recently I have given the task to make
a model which will help freshman egr students to learn about auxiliary
views when they learn about orthographic projection.  the model must
be something that they can hold in their hands, and might be taken apart
I have thought about it for a week, but still have not come up with any
solution yet.  If anyone have any suggestions or ideas of how this
model is going to look like, please email me. I really aprreciate your
suggestions or ideas.

  thank you for taking your time to read my message.

   Tuan


-- 

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From: sdh@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Heavner)
Subject: Re: Lego at MIT?
Reply-To: sdh@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Heavner)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 02:42:45 GMT


In a previous article, turkel@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Turkel) says:

>In the latest issue of _Whole Earth Review_ (the one about the Goddess)
>there is an article about the Robot Olympics, in which it is claimed
>that some design courses and engineering courses at MIT use Lego.
>
>Does anybody have specifics?  Is there a text?  Recommended kits?

	If anyone is really interested, I would recommend checking out
some of the recent posts on comp.robotics

			Scott Heavner
			sdh@po.cwru.edu

-- 
"Then they always say things like that after a winter storm      {Ogden Nash}
 The snow is a white blanket.  Oh it is, is it, all right then, you sleep
  under a six-inch blanket of snow and I'll sleep under a half-inch blanket
  of some unpoetical blanket material and we'll see which one keeps warm,"
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