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From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Transporter Psychosis
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:25:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: INDYCMS.1687FCAC5.IQTI400
Organization: IUPUI

In article <c95M03fBa1=w00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>
jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes:
 
>
>Does anyone connected with the show have access to a dictionary?  My
>electronic American Heritage defines psychosis as: "Any of a class of
>serious mental disorders in which the mind cannot function normally
>and the ability to deal with reality is impaired or lost."  But the
>description of so-called Transporter Psychosis indicated that most
>of the symptoms were PHYSICAL.  Add to that the fairly long list of
>symptoms and it's clear that the correct name of this disease should
>be Transporter Syndrome. (Syndrome: "A group of symptoms that collectively
>characterize a disease or disorder.")
 
 
Here's a quick rule-of-thumb:  most psychiatrists will try to find an
organic source for a disorder and are quick to prescribe medications
(gotta use that MD) and most psychologists will try to find non-organic
causes.  As soon as they hear this, someone representing the viewpoints
of one group or the other will scream "generalization" but the numbers
bear this out.
 
 
 
 
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From: stdeprie@eos.ncsu.edu (SHAWN TEMPLE DEPRIEST)
Subject: Re: Dread of Scotty Episode
Originator: stdeprie@c00514-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: stdeprie@eos.ncsu.edu (SHAWN TEMPLE DEPRIEST)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:07:14 GMT


I agree 100%.....Scotty is way underused, in the movies, comics, and books.
Scotty has always been one of my favorite characters and I'm glad to see
him involved in something that may give him more time in front of the camera
than he has recieved in the past 2 movies combined.  Of course, while I'm on
the subject of underused characters, what has happened to Chekov in the past
couple of movies?  STVI had him for a total of 6 minutes max it would seem.
I mean Christian Slater almost got more camera time than Walter Koenig.
Just seems like a shame to me that they would not want to work in some
more Russian accented acting, besides the line Shields up Captain repeated over
and over.
Just a thought.

GNDN......little trivia for you ST Buffs...anyone answer it?
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From: wc9583@writer.yorku.ca (J.Marc Chabot)
Subject: Re: Da books (was: all this nonsense about the Dianes)
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:42:04 GMT

I have to agree that Diane Duane is probably one of the best writers
when it comes to the TOS novels.  But other Pocket novels are also
worth a read!
	Some of my favourites, although it seems most hate these ones,
include:
	"Dreadnought" and "Battlestations"
	"The Entropy Effect"
	"Dwellers in the Crucible"
	"Ishmael"
	"How much for just the planet?" (it WAS funny)
	"Prime Directive"
	"Enterprise: The First Adventure" (or something like that...

	There are also many others which I can't remember I am
sure...But one name does keep coming back: Diane Duane.

Trekfully Yours!

Marc

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From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Subject: Re: pad is sexy and nude!
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:52:21 GMT

In article <1687FB391.JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu> JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu writes:
>This is to PAD:  I just finished "Q-In Law" and enjoyed it very much.  I
>wanted to thank you for one small touch: the introduction of Lt. Cohen
>in the beginning of the book.  Not only was I pleased to see a namesake
>in the 24th. century (maybe a decendant!) but I was also pleased to see
>the first (to my knowledge) reference to anyone of Jewish decent in any
>Star Trek material.  They have every know human group and nationality
>represented somewhere except Jews.  I was beginning to think that we had
>all been wiped out somewhere in the intervening 400 years.
> 
>Thanks again,
>Jeff Cohen


He also had the Jewish reference in Imzadi, look at the names of
the raiders when Troi was taken hostage.

Only problem was, I laughed so much I couldn't take them seriously.

Hillel Markowitz        H_Markowitz@att.com
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From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
Subject: Aye, Captain! "Relics" SPOILERS
Organization: DSC
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:30:41 GMT

WARNING! Spoilers for Relics Ahead...


































That should be enough...

I posted some thoughts as a response to another post, but wanted to put in
my 2 cents as a separate post.

I really like "Relics." The first half of the show you really feel the 
sadness that Scotty was experiencing, as he began to believe he wasn't
useful any more. For those of us who enjoyed the original series, it was 
a sad thing. But by the halfway mark in the show, I began to wonder if
this wasn't getting to be TOO slow of a show...

No problem! Things really pick up in the second half, as Geordi and Scotty
attempt to revive the old crashed ship in order to save the Big E. The
show slid from the intellectual, introspective TNG mode to the exciting,
danger-filled TOS mode! It was fun to watch Scotty and (for a change) Geordi
sit in a rocking ship as fires broke out and stuff fell from the ceiling!
And a split-second ending, too. A lot of fun.

I was a bit confused at the end when they gave Scotty a shuttlecraft to do
with as he pleased, since I would hace thought that Starfleet would have liked
to talk to Scotty, but what the heck. I guess that was as off the wall as
TOS was...

It was fun to see the difference between Scotty and Geordi. Scotty was a
seat-of-the-pants engineer, while Geordi is definitely by the book. Sort
of reminds of what it was like being systems programmer 20 years ago, vs.
today. Back then we'd throw out a new device driver and see what 
happened, or cause a stopcode to force a reboot. Nowadays it's strictly
by the book...

I know there were some places that didn't make sense, etc. But I didn't
care. I thought it was a well done, fun episode.

I give it a 9 on a scale of 10.

Larry

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From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Yet more rumors about O'Brien's rank
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:49:50 GMT

Possible "Man of the People" SPOILER

Last chance to hide your eyes


I'm surprised that nobody else has yet mentioned this:

During "Man of the People" (when the ambassador/mediator/bad-guy is
ready to beam down to the planet, and Troi breaks in swinging the
knife) there is a woman operating the transporter controls.  She
is referred to twice as "Chief."

Somebody has commented that "Chief" implies the head of the department
or whatever;  Does this mean that O'Brien has not only been demoted,
but also kicked off the Enterprise?
(Perhaps his spider got loose into Picard's pajamas or something (-:) 
-- 
 __                                                                        __
(__)  Grover Thomas                   InterNet:  grover@emunix.emich.edu  (__)
(__)                                                                      (__)
(__)    "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things" -Dan Quayle     (__) 
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From: rick@eaglet.rain.com (Rick Lindsley)
Subject: Another MOTP error <* Spoilers *>
Organization: Eaglet Software
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 07:51:01 GMT

minor spoilers ..


Near the end, where Deanna is in sick bay, Picard calls Transporter Room
2 and says to prepare to beam that other woman out on my signal. Then,
at the appropriately tense moment, he slaps his badge and yells,
"Transporter room 3 -- now!"

It would have been a nice touch to hear the response: "Transporter Room
3 .. acquiring lock from Transporter room 2 .. energizing ..." :)

Rick
From: adh@po.CWRU.Edu (Anneliese D. Heiner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Funny Stuff Collected from r.a.st - Top Ten, Jokes, Etc.
Date: 9 Oct 1992 21:15:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: adh@po.CWRU.Edu (Anneliese D. Heiner)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


This collection was compiled during Season 5.  It includes Star Trek light
bulb jokes, Top Ten lists, and lines you never hear on Star Trek.
It's actually over on r.a.st.m under the same title; I posted this here
because somebody here asked about collections of this type (and the
collection is fairly long).
-- 
Anneliese Heiner           * "Evil will always triumph,
Case Western Reserve       *  because good is dumb!"
     University            *          --Dark Helmet, "Spaceballs"
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: Yet more rumors about O'Brien's rank
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 06:53:42 GMT

grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:

 >I'm surprised that nobody else has yet mentioned this:
 >During "Man of the People" (when the ambassador/mediator/bad-guy is
 >ready to beam down to the planet, and Troi breaks in swinging the
 >knife) there is a woman operating the transporter controls.  She
 >is referred to twice as "Chief."

We saw the same sort of thing last season as well.

 >Somebody has commented that "Chief" implies the head of the department
 >or whatever;  Does this mean that O'Brien has not only been demoted,
 >but also kicked off the Enterprise?

"Chief" would seem to be short for Transporter Chief, i.e. someone who's
job is to operate the transporter console.  Therefore T.C. is a POSITION,
and *not* a rank.  We have seen Ensigns at that position being called "Chief",
just like with O'Brien.  It was made clear in several episodes that Miles 
is the head of the Transporter department though, but the title "Chief" does
not seem to reflect that fact... 

 >(Perhaps his spider got loose into Picard's pajamas or something (-:) 

Could be!   That might explain how he was suddenly "demoted" after all
this time from LT, to the displayed (strange) rank of "Ensign j.g.".

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From: kevin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Kevin Ernst Duckworth)
Subject: Re: Riker's lust for the Enterprise
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:28:27 GMT



Hey!  Has everyone forgotten about Riker's brilliant rescue of Locutus/
Picard from the borg?  I realize that there are several more instances
of a rather belligerent attitude on his part towards delicate situations
(Darmok, eg.) but no more than, say, Worf or Kirk!  There is nothing that
he has ever done that really says to me that he doesn't know what he's doing.
I just think he needs a little more time around Picard to learn how to deal
with matters of diplomacy.  Believe me, if Riker had been alive in 2276,
he -would- be an appropriate leader.
     Another point: everyone seems to bash Riker for not furthering his
career.  Well, I don't know if I speak for any other humans {{:<|  but 
career is not everything in life.  Maybe he stays on the Enterprise bacause
he knows that there is a hell of a lot to learn there, from their mission
and his crewmates.  And who among us likes to say goodbye to their dearest
friends?  Do y'all think that if he leaves the big-E that his relationship
with Worf, Deanna, Jean-luc, et al would be business as usual?  No.
I think these reasons are far more admirable than those of a resume-
packer who just has work, work, work on his mind.  So enough about bad writing.
I think his decisions are right on track.


Now, for the fun stuff.

Hey Atsushi!  Walking out, eh?  Sounds pretty contemptuous to me.  Like 
something a Romulan would do...       uh oh.

Lay off Worf!  It wasn't exactly like he should be carrying a phaser into
a touchy situation!  What choice did he have but to just stand there?
Start a fist fight?  Challenge every one in the room to a game of Klingon
"kill the man with the phaser"?  There was no way he could have anticipated 
those sneaky guards coming behind him.  He did exactly what Picard would
have wanted him to do... suggesting to me that he is learning alot about 
diplomacy in general and gearing up for a ship of his own... {{8<)|:

Good job Deanna!  Let me repeat..
Good job Deanna!  And I don't mean just her bedside manners.  

Someone made a comment to a positive netter that there wasn't a lot of
bashing going on during "Inner Light" and "I, Borg".  Well, if memory
serves, certain people (let's call them "AK"'s) *were* bashing at that time.
Which just goes to show you can't please some of the people any of the time.
I'm not telling them to shut up, I just don't like it when my favorite show
gets slammed out of hand and for the sake of being slammed.


Well!  That should scorch a few baffle plates!  Comments?  Photons?
I'm right here.

						Kevin Duckworthio
						

"AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!"   
  -- Klingon death howl.
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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: MAN OF THE PEOPLE (OPINIONATED COMMENTS)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:58:48 GMT




To tell the truth, I don't have any. About 30 minutes into it, I turned 
off the TV and found something else to do. 



In all fairness, I wouldn't have done that if I hadn't had a lot of
other things on my mind: the first half of this was pretty bad, but
it wasn't "Cost of Living" either. But after sitting through 30
minutes of uninspired and predictable smulch, I decided there were more 
profitable ways to spend two hours (one hour watching, one hour writing a 
review).

Scanning through the other reviews and synops, it seems this episode
was exactly what it appeared to be: "stroke Marina's ego." In fact,
this is only one more in a long line of "stroke the actor's ego" shows
in a pampered, overrated, self-congratulating, indulgent series that
increasingly seems to think more about how to make the show fun for its
staff rather than how to make it fun for the viewers. I'm fed up with it.
Star Trek is a corpse that doesn't know enough to fall. If the first
three outings of season 6 are any indication, the chances of my making
it through this year are vanishingly small.


Grade: This episode will never be graded.


Next Week:



He's baaack. (I have about as much hope about this as I did about "Q-pid",
but it'll no doubt be the talk of the net, so I'll be there).
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Riker's lust for the Enterprise
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:35:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.230241.16060@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.222827.15371@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kevin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Kevin Ernst Duckworth) writes:

>>Now, for the fun stuff.
>>
>>Hey Atsushi!  Walking out, eh?  Sounds pretty contemptuous to me.  
>
>And rightly so. I thought it was a contemptible episode.


Oh, thanks for saying so.  I missed your last review because I walked
out before I finished reading it.



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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Realm of Fear: space worms ???
Date: 07 Oct 92 04:16:12 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <91310@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com writes:
>In article 22610@ra.msstate.edu, rat1@me1.MsState.Edu (Robert Thompson) writes:
>> Paraphrase: Just where were the Yosimiti(sp?) crew beaming to?
>They weren't going anywhere. They were trying to remove the 
>plasma organisms that infected the four crewmen in the same way the
>the Enterprise disinfected Barclay. 

But why? You get the parasites during transport. Therefore they were
transporting somewhere. Where were they going?

-- 
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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Subject: Re: Da books (was: all this nonsense about the Dianes)
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:50:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.173153.2652@sarah.albany.edu> ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj) writes:
>Also, avoid at all costs anything
>by Sondra Mershak and Myrna Culbreath.
>
>Yasmin
>
>**************************************************************************
>*                                   *                                    *
>*  Yasmin Sohrawardy                *                                    *
>*                                   *          Clinton/Gore '92          *
>*  Internet:  ys3359@csc.albany.edu *                                    *
>*                                   *                                    *
>**************************************************************************

	Hoo hah!  Agreed!!  I've only read the story in the New Voyages
2 book about the whole crew getting sex-changed (no joke!), but I have
it on good authority (my buddy Darren who reads all Star Trek novels)
that the Price / Fate of the Phoenix books are bad as well.  After that
short story, I believe it!
	They seem like decent people, though -- based on their
editorials.  Enthusiatic Trekk-ies/ors.
	
	- Gord, a.k.a. glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
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From: dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Episode Q-Me is no more!
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:20:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.2ADE894E.25274
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Oct15.224403.26887@eng.umd.edu> wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
#In article <4272@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
#>For this, you get TWO cookies.  You like chocolate chip.
#
#Oh, I *do*, do I?  Yes, sir. (-:

If you don't want them, Mike is welcome to send them to me!

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From: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Guinna(?) meets Picard.... NOT!
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:28:51 GMT
Reply-To: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com
Organization: G.M. Research and Environmental Staff

In article 14137@ringer.cs.utsa.edu, gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain) writes:
|>
|>      Last night I saw a rerun of "The Child".  In one scene, Ensign Crusher
|> was asking Guinna(??Whatever! Whoopie) about the first time she had met
|> Picard.  She said it was on the Enterprise.  Well, in "Time's Arrow II" it
|> turns out that they first met 500 years earlier.  Is this a script flaw or
|> perhaps she didn't want to reveal future events, although she did so when
|> she told Picard to go on the mission or else.   Sigh.

The concept of first is a little tricky. Chronologically and in
Guinan's time line, that was in San Francisco. In Picard's, it was
on the Enterprise.



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	Computer Science Dept., G.M. Research and Environmental Staff
DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, everything in this note is
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From: M17257@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Guinan and her secrets
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:21:50 GMT

In article <91422@rphroy.ph.gmr.com>
rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar) writes:
 
>In article <1992Oct6.172401.9035@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>
>sabat@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
>
>>Does anyone know what Picard says at the end of the episode (I think "The
>>Enemy") where Geordie and a Romulan are stranded on a planet and learn to
>>help each other barely making it back to the Enterprise at the end when the
>>big E and a Romulan warbird are about to blast each other.  It is something
>>like "______manship is a dangerous game."  We have rewatched it several times
>>and cannot figure it out.  Thanks
>
>Could it have been "One-up-man-ship?"
>
>In article 1658@dsinet, markw@chusuk (Mark Worrell) writes:
>|>I dont think I have seen anybody talk about this yet. She is a member of
>|>some long lived species, right? What was Guinan doing on Earth in the first
>|>place?
>|>
>
>Sluming - of course.
>
>
>
 
Remember? She said, "Did my father send you?!"  I think she was being a
rebellious teenager, and trying to make her own way in the universe, away
from her father's controlling power.
 
Any other possibilities out there?
 
Ellie Blackwell
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From: wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: *Spoiler* Comments on "Man of the People"
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:25:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Originator: wombat@coke.eng.umd.edu

*Spoilers*               



The good news:  "Man of the People" wasn't as bad as the preview leads
                you to believe. 
The bad news:   "Man of the People" wasn't quite "good", just "okay."



I don't have a whole lot to say about this episode.  It's pretty interesting
first-time viewing, but it lags on the second one.

A Few Random Comments:

- The episode starts out as if it's going to be yet another Troi-falls-in- 
love-with-visiting-ambassador episode.  Fortunately, that's not what it's
about.

- MotP is all plot.  We don't learn any new or interesting things about Troi.
One good point however, is that the writers *haven't* swept Troi's and 
Riker's relationship under the rug.  Elements of it make themselves known,
such as the scene where Riker is obviously upset over Troi's fling with
Ensign willing-and-able and Troi pisses him off by harking on it.  Nice
scene there.  It brings up the question of just what would Troi be like
if she said everything that she sensed from others.  *I* wouldn't want
to around her too much. (Especially if she's wearing that *dress*. (-:) 

- Alkar (sp?) was the best thing about the show.  Here's a sociopath who's 
actually doing enormous good by sacrificing one person for his needs every
couple years.  It's obvious that either remorse and guilt were part of the
emotions he displaces to others, or he never had those qualities to begin
with.  It's *chilling* to watch him show no emotion while Troi is being 
destroyed.  It's similar to us watching a spider devour it's prey: interesting
but nothing to get upset about.  

- One small problem I noticed.  Here we have these two ambassadors who've
been on the planet for weeks.  Yet it's *Picard* who knows about and suggests 
this nuetral city for the meeting between the two factions?  Yeah, right.

- Sirtis did alright in her role, but it was nothing inspired.  I still
don't know exactly what was meant by her examining her chest area while
she was exercising in her quarters.  (Then again, maybe I don't want to. (-:)
She wasn't bad, but I would have *loved* to see how Stewart would play it
if he were given the same role. 
 
- Somebody gets the drop on Worf yet again.  At least they're consistent.

All, in all, MotP wasn't awful, but it could have been a lot better.

Grade: 6

Next Week:


As much as I enjoyed "Unification II," here's hoping "Relics" can deliver
the knockout goods that UII just missed doing.  Looks like it could be
excellent.  We'll see.......

-- 
Jose Gonzalez