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From: adimmick@world.std.com (Andrew H Dimmick)
Subject: Re: VINE & AppleTalk
Keywords: appletalk vines name length limit
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:57:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.153127.6578@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> johnson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Chris Johnson) writes:
>     I'm told that when using VINE with Appletalk there is a name length
>restriction on the VINES side.  This apparently has to do with the
>AppleTalk naming convention which limits the length of the name of an
>entity in a zone.  
>
>     Does the ENTIRE VINES name, item@grp@org, need to fit within an AppleTalk
>name which I think is 32 characters?  What is the real limit?  What
>can't you do if the name is too long?
>
>     Thanks much.
>
>Chris Johnson
>Northeastern University.


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From:         Elliott Coates <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject: re: print access

>And is it true that there is no other option
>than to enter *@*@* for the USERS field?

I don't think it's true.  I'm pretty sure we have some printers with
*@group@org in that field.

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
From: maf@tabatha.MAE.CWRU.Edu (Mark Fullmer)
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Subject: Re:      re: NIC Shutdown
Date: 27 Jan 1993 00:29:30 GMT
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In article <BANYAN-L%93012615182757@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>,         wim=malliet%SYS%CC3@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE writes:
|> A few months ago we had the same "watchdog timer" error. Replacing the 3COM
|> Etherlink for a 3COM Etherlink II solved the problem.

Ditto, in our case it was an Etherlink Plus that was giving the errors
though.  The problem can be reproduced with heavy network activity.  

The Etherlink II hasn't shown this problem at all.

--
mark
maf+@osu.edu

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Subject:      Duplicate Messages

I occasionally see duplicate messages also.  Nothing that I can pinpoint as
consistent.

Bob
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| Robert E. Brydia                           REB100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU   |
| Research Assistant                            (814) 863-7506      |
|       "Knowledge was meant to be shared" - Louis L'Amour          |
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From:         "Kingsbury, Joy" <Joy.Kingsbury@ASU.EDU>
Subject:      re: Banyan training

Thanks you for the information on classes.
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>The closest Banyan Facility to Phoenix would be Irvine, CA.  However, there
>should be a VAR in the Phoenix area that is authorized to teach most of the
>Banyan classes.  You can reach Banyan Training at 800-832-4595.
>
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From: skb@ide.hk-r.se (Bengt-Arne Skoog)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP
Organization: Hgskolan Karlskrona/Ronneby (HK/R)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:37:42 GMT



>On the TCP/IP side of my net, my Vines servers seem to be rather touchy.
>After our weekly reboot, some of the routes on the VinesIP interface don't get
>enabled.  I think that I've tracked it down to our rebooting sequence.  It
>seems to be that we can only have 1 server down at a time, because when a
>server comes up, it tries to ping the other servers on the VinesIP interface
>-- if they're not there, then the link status is set to 'down'.  I've tried
>deleting the entry in the affected routing table, but when I recreate it, the
>status is still 'down'.

>Does anyone know what the scoop is here -- is there a patch for this problem
>-- what are your workarounds?

I have the same problem. All manually added route is set to down after
reboot. If i remove and add them again it's ok. The routes are through 
a WAN link and VINES 5.00(5).

Bengt-Arne
###
Email : Bengt-Arne.Skoog@ide.hk-r.se
Phone : 46-457-71850
Fax   : 46-457-27481
Post  : Soft Center
        372 25 Ronneby

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:39:50 EST
From:         Robert=H.=Whelan%IS%DFCI%RHYS.DFCI.HARVARD.EDU@HARVJMMY.BITNET
Subject:      re: Default forwarding in SMTP

Mike Wagner writes:

>We would like to set up our Banyan SMTP gateway to by default forward all
>outgoing messages to a specific address. Since the gateway doesn't
>understand MX records, and we would like to do some address munging on the
>way out to the Internet, this is our goal. Is there any mechanism to do
>this? We want ALL messages forwarded, even those destined for machines in
>the same TCP/IP domain as the gateway. Thanks for your input.

I cannot answer your question Mike, but I have a question and a need for
clarification.  You mention that SMTP does not understand MX records.  Do you
mean to say it does not check for them once the A record is found?  I have
recently had many problems with SMTP and have found 2 bugs - one is related
to MX records.  I am not a UNIX person (yet!) so some of my questions may be
at the beginner level. My name server (and default gateway) is a DEC
workstation running ultrix.  It is timing out on the SMTP gateway for reasons
unknown.  I sent a sniffer dump to Banyan and they said it had something to
do with our nameserver looking for a syn (or sync) and not finding it - this
causes the nameserver to disconnect and SMTP log shows failure/deferred action.
Does this make any sense to you?  Any information/education will really help.

I was also speaking to one of the product managers from Banyan at Networld and
he mentioned that a full rewrite of the SMTP gateway is underway.  He
mentioned the new gateway will be SMTP and x.400 compliant and will support
MYME (sp).  I offer my usual support in this area of development as most of
my community are outside or 800+ Banyan users (400+ macintosh and 1200
terminal/workstation users).  Let's also hope that STDA is fully integrated
into the SMTP Gateway; seeing that I have a medium inclusion list.

Thanks for listening...

**********************************
Bob Whelan
Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
Boston, MA
Addr: r_whelan@farber.harvard.edu
ph: 617-632-3719
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:26:49 PST
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: 4.11(5) clients not able to login

Thanks to all who responded to my earlier message.

At this point the problem appears to possibly be related to some overly
chatty Sun Workstations on the network.  We are still investigating this
because we are not clear why 4.11 clients are affected and not 5.0 clients.
Does anyone know if there are radical differences in the routing algorithms
between 4.11 and 5.0?

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:21:52 CST
From:         Rick=L.=Perales%2nd=Fl%FPCM@FPCM.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU
Subject:      NIC Shutdown

The following message appeared on the console over the weekend.

E+     Watchdog Timer
E+     ep=D3002658
E+     epdma1=00000013
E+     epdma2=00000000
E+     status=00000056
Shutting down 3Com Etherlink ...

Any ideas as to what might have caused this.

rlp@fpcm.med.uth.tmc.edu
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:15:56 -0700
From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: 4.11(5) clients not able to login

Here's one for the list--- please post responses to me directly.

1.) UserFriendly 386sx/25
2.) C&T Chipset
3.) Intel EtherExpress 16
4.) AMI Bios 5/5/91

With the above configuration and using 4.11(5) with the Native Intel
EtherExpress driver here is what we get:

The card is using IRQ 5, I/O address at 300 (or any other address other than 370
   which gives an conflict in memory as reported by Intel's Softset).  So with t
   hatin mind, we COLD BOOT the machine, run BAN, and get VINES FILES NOT AVAILA
   BLE.

We have used the INTEL EtherExpress and the Native driver for quite a while now
on many other compatible clones and have found no problems at all.

The interesting thing is, after SOFTBOOTING the pc with the problem, then typing
    in BAN the second time, IT WORKS fine and is stable.  This sounds like a
remapping problem as a cold boot always produces the problem.

Are there any ideas for what may be causing this to happen?  Has Banyan produced
    a patch since the initial release of that Native Intel Driver?

We have attempted to change CMOS settings and advanced chipset settings until
we're blue, but nothing produces a positive response on cold boot.

Please mail me with your ideas:

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From:         Rick=L.=Perales%2nd=Fl%FPCM@FPCM.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU
Subject:      NIC shutdown, other ?'s

Thanks for all the feedback on my previous question.  I did replace the
card with an Etherlink II; i'll see how that works out.

On another front: I'm getting ready to replace a Deskpro 386/25 with a
Prosignia 486/33. Unfortunately it looks like i'll have to wait for Banyan
to support the integrated SCSI II and Netflex controller later this year.
I'm sure Compaq's 5GB DAT drive will also be supported.  Question is, will
there be any problems just swapping the server key to the new server?  Or
do i have to unload all the options off the server key and then reload
them once i have the new server up and running. The new server will
be running 4.11(5), same as the old server.  Hopefully this summer i'll
upgrade it to 5.5.  I'll give you guys some time to play with 5.5 before
i commit to it.

Later...

rlp@fpcm.med.uth.tmc.edu
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:11:02 PST
From:         Patrick N Williams <Patrick_N_Williams@CCM.HF.INTEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: lost servers

I've also seen this problem. I'm not sure why it happens, but the way that we
fixed it is to do a Coldstart (using Vines Assistant, for example) on all the
servers that were not seeing ALL other servers. In other words, your server B.
Banyan were not sure why it happened, but when we did this, it worked fine.
Before we knew about Coldstart, the other way we used was to put server A (the
good one) on the same segment as server B (the bad one), and isolate that
segment from the rest of the LAN. We then put the clocks forward at least 96hrs
on server B. This caused the STHeardFrom table to rebuild itself. So it would
then suck the STHeardFrom from server A. Then we just changed the time back on
server B, and made sure the time on both servers before putting them both back
onto the LAN. Very crude, but it worked.
The best option, of course, is the former.

                Pat N Williams
                Network Chappie
                Intel Corp (UK) Ltd.
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:54:00 PST
From:         Gale Boyajian <Gale@ITDMSMAIL.ITD.UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      ABUi conferences

Does anyone know if there is information available on the upcoming ABUi
conferences to be held in Amsterdam and San Francisco?
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From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Subject: Vines user groups in Nordic Area?
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:03:56 GMT

Would anyone know if there are any Banyan user groups
in the Nordic Area?

Tack sa mycket,

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:56:30 EST
From:         Elliott Coates <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Two servers on the same ethe

>That is also one of the reasons they crash without S-S LAN.

Prior to 3.10(6) although Banyan wanted you to have the option you could have
servers without it "seeing" each other, in fact they could be one happy family,
i.e. common orgs, mail exchange, ST cross-updates, etc.

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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From:         Koen Swinnen <LAAAA90@CC1.KULEUVEN.AC.BE>
Organization: K.U.Leuven - Academic Computing Center
Subject:      re: Mouse driver ... in HMA

Ian,

You've hit the nail right on the head.

When the MS mouse driver 8.20a reports that '.... /X no longer supported',
it implies that there was such a thing as a /X switch in 8.10 which ...
loads the driver in the HMA, where it coexists with the rest of DOS 5 code.

Anyone know what trick is behind this?  All I know is that MicroBrains removed
this option in version 8.20 which was released with Windows 3.1.

I did try the /X switch for a couple of days, but experienced some random
hangs and reboots, so in the end I chucked out MS mouse 8.10 all together.


Koen Swinnen
Computing Centre
Katholieke Universiteit Leuven
Belgium
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From:         wim=malliet%SYS%CC3@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject:      re: NIC Shutdown

A few months ago we had the same "watchdog timer" error. Replacing the 3COM
Etherlink for a 3COM Etherlink II solved the problem.
                                        Wim
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From:         Thomas=C.=Gray%NetAdmin%CSS@CSS.UNC.EDU
Subject:      SMTP -- Banyan Names

This probably re-hashes old stuff, any summaries are welcome.

I'm using SMTP to talk to the world.  However, some "postmasters"
out there claim my return addresses choke their systems.  They
mention that:
      tom=gray%netadmin%css@css.unc.edu

is "BAD" because the "=" means something to their system.  They also
want to know why it can't be replaced with the underscore.

Page 1-9 of the SMTP Gate manual states (under common syntax rules)
 that "The characters @,!,%,", and = are significant.  The manual
doesn't state what to do about it.

Easy way out is to create nicknames, but since some of my group
names contain spaces (MHCRC Center@Psychiatry, MR Core@BDRC) this means
losing some of the advantages of StreetTalk.

IS THIS A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH SMTP?  Are these other systems
just "whining"?

respond to:
thomas=c.=gray%netadmin%css@css.unc.edu

or if YOUR mailer can't handle it, try
tom@css.unc.edu

thanx
tom gray, network adminstrator
UNC Chapel Hill
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From:         idrc/G=David/S=Dores/O=IDRC_CRDI/OU=EDP_TED@MHS.ATTMAIL.COM
Subject:      re: lost servers

Roland:

I've seen this problem before, but only in a WAN situation.  Where, 1 server
could see and communicate with another server, but the communication was only
1 way.  I could copy a file 1 way across the link, but from the other side,
could not even setdrive to the service...

IMHO, perhaps a coldstart of ST is in order, but perhaps there is a patch that
someone knows about that corrects this problem.  Maybe go through the known
problems reports and patch listings...

Hope this helps a bit...

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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:37:38 -0500
From:         GUY_GATTIS <FAADFYY@UMDSCXA.BITNET>
Subject:      re: print access

> What sort of access? Is it about being allowed to print out a file, or
> is it about being allowed to start the PCPrint program? I suspect what
> you want is to give the user access to print out something, in which
> case you are in the wrong screen. Access to print allows 5, 10? entries.
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, just access to print to the printer.  The server is running 4.10.  Is
this not possible?  Am I restricted to one entry in the CONFIGURE menu of
MSERVICE for the print service?  And is it true that there is no other option
than to enter *@*@* for the USERS field?   A list can be entered, but the
LISTs in 4.10 do not allow wildcards.  Suggestions??

GGattis@umich.edu
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From: scotth@cs.umr.edu (Scott Hayes)
Subject: Re:      ABUi conferences
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:12:40 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO

Gale Boyajian <Gale@ITDMSMAIL.ITD.UMICH.EDU> writes:
>Does anyone know if there is information available on the upcoming ABUi
>conferences to be held in Amsterdam and San Francisco?

The Amsterdam conference is 2-5 June 1993.

For more information on either conference contact:

Association of Banyan Users International (ABUI)
401 N. Michigan Ave.
Chicago, IL  60611-4267  USA
Tel:  312-644-6610
Fax:  312-321-6869

Scott Hayes
Systems Analyst
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From:         R.L.Boelen@WMW.UTWENTE.NL
Subject:      FTP server

I know this is not the right place to ask this question, but I can't find an
FTP site, if any of you could help me out.....
I'm looking for an FTP site at:

Brookhaven National Lab, Long Island New York. I am specially interested in
their bulletin boards.

Please mail me direct.

Thanks in advance

Lars Boelen
R.L.Boelen@WMW.UTWENTE.NL
University Twente
The Netherlands.
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From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Profile size...

>
> I am trying to copy a file on my hard disk to a Vines profile.
> I get the message "File is too large".  There are 39 lines in my file.
> Is there a limit to the size of a profile?
>

A profile can be no larger than 1024 bytes, the max size of a ST associated
record.

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From:         Alan=Smith%InfoSys%Tek@BANYAN.BV.TEK.COM
Subject:      re: Etherlnk II/16 TP Rev. E

Grant Getz <KGGXG%ASUACAD.bitnet@vm1.cc.uakron.edu> Wrote:
|
|
| Hello fellow Banyanites,
|
| I've recently installed 3COM EtherLinkII/16 TP cards in some
| IBM XTs.
|
| Some of the cards were rev. D1 but most were rev. E.  With the rev. D1
| card the 3C503BAN comm. driver takes 51360 bytes while the driver on
| PCs with the rev. E card takes82064 bytes.  The loss of 30KB MORE on
| these XTs is killing some applications.
|

grant - are you sure that you don't have PCCONFIG on certain PCs loading
30 kb more of comm buffers? That's the one of the few ways that I know of
these drivers changing size.

alan smith
tektronix, inc
beaverton, OR
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