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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:55:19 CDT
From:         "James Milles, SLU Law Library" <MILLESJG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject: Re: internet access from a public library

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have a list of public-access Internet providers that anyone
can obtain by anonymous ftp:

INDIVIDUAL ACCESS TO INTERNET
September 29, 1992

Available via anonymous ftp
 Host: liberty.uc.wlu.edu
 Directory: /pub/lawlib
 File: internet.access

PART I     Public Dialup Internet Access List (PDIAL)

PART II    NETWORK PROVIDER REFERRAL LIST, NSF Network Service Center
           (NNSC)

PART III   internet-access-providers-us.txt

PART IV    nixpub long listing--Open Access UNIX (*NIX) Sites

Jim

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James Milles                               Phone: (314) 658-2759
Head of Computer Services                    Fax: (314) 658-3966
Saint Louis University Law Library
3700 Lindell Blvd.             Internet: millesjg@sluvca.slu.edu
St. Louis, MO  63108
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:35:49 CDT
From:         Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Public Librarians

2 Messages, 31 Lines
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From:     <RHADDEN@USGSRESV>
Subject:  Re:  Public Librarians
I agree that public librarians have more variety of questions. I have been
working for fifteen years in special libraries, where the subjects researched
were well known and experts willing to help were near by. During a three year
period when I worked in a public library, I often had to go to extraordinary
lengths to find answers to reference questions, in part because the questions
asked were not in my fields. I remember one woman calling up on the
phone and asking who was Cherry Ames best friend's name. I knew she was
a fictional character, but I ythought she was in the Nanct Drew series.
    Please give me the sciences and engineering reference questions anytine!
lee hadden
usgs library
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From: "Shirley D. Kennedy (813) 442-9066" <KENNEDS@mail.firn.edu>
Subject: Re: Public Librarians

Bravo, Dawn!!!  Well said.

Shirley Duglin Kennedy
former public reference librarian
part-time law librarian
author of forthcoming book on public library research for "the average
person"

Clearwater, FL

kenneds@firnvx.firn.edu
From: rtennant@library.Berkeley.EDU ((Roy Tennant))
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pacs-l
Subject: Electronic discussion tip
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:58:33 GMT
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> One of our librarians here has been asked for the following information and
> does not belong to this listserv, so he has asked me to post this message. He
> would like the responses sent to him however, <e-mail address here>

I have seen this kind of note often enough to make me think there is a
widespread misunderstanding regarding electronic discussions. You
almost *never* need to be "subscribed" to a discussion to post a message
to it. You can, from the relative comforts of your own unsubscribed account,
send a message to the appropriate discussion and specify the address to
which replies should be sent. No fuss, no muss.
Roy Tennant
The Library
UC Berkeley
From: buckland@otlet.berkeley.edu (Michael Buckland)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pacs-l
Subject: Ordering retrieved sets
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:52:40 GMT
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Please respond to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Dana

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Online library catalogs generally sort a retrieved set into
alphabetical order of main entry, continuing the way that main entry
records are filed in card catalog cards.  Does anyone know of other
options in operational online library catalogs, such as sorting in
chronological order, in reverse chronological order, in call number order, etc?
  Online catalogs commonly support limiting retrieved sets and/or
browsing by call number, both of which can move one towards a different
ordering, but I looking for examples of online catalogs in which a
retrieved set can be sorted into some order other than standard main
entry filing before display.
  EARCH SHEETS FOR OPACS by Marcia Henry et al. (Meckler, 1991)
describes the features of numerous online library catalogs, but looking
through it I did notice any evidence of online catalogs supporting
alternative ordering.
  I ask because information on this point would be a helpful addition
to a paper on ordering catalog records that has been accepted for
publication but is being given a final revision.
  Please respond to me directly  -- buckland@otlet.berkeley.edu -- and
I will submit a summary of replies to PACS-L
------
Michael Buckland,  School of Library & Information Studies,
University of California, Berkeley   buckland@otlet.berkeley.edu
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:18:07 CDT
From:         Fred Bogin <FDBBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Zip/Unzip

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I kept getting the message to try PKZIPFIX until I realized that I had
transferred the files I was trying to unzip in ASCII rather than Binary.
(I had set the mainframe's KERMIT to Binary but hadn't set my local
software to Binary.) Once I set things right, I never had a problem
again.


Fred Bogin
Brooklyn College Library
2900 Bedford Ave.
Brooklyn, N.Y.  11210-2889
(718) 951-5341
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:59:37 CDT
From:         Ken Laws <LAWS@ai.sri.com>
Subject:      Lurkers vs. Wallflowers

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

I'm not sure where the term "lurker" first became common -- most
likely on CompuServe and other BBS "CB emulators", and taken from
the CB radio domain -- but the negative connotations are sometimes
appropriate.  In the old ARPANET days, several companies prohibited
their employees from posting to the net.  Several countries, notably
Great Britain, also prohibited posting for economic reasons.  We had
a military-supported communication channel dedicated to tech transfer,
and several classes of listeners who would not post even when it
seemed appropriate for them to do so.  There was widespread concern
that this one-sided arrangement would lead to the net being shut down
or restricted.  I can't swear that the term "lurker" was used, but
it certainly fit the situation.

A wallflower is one who is visible but not participating.  That
visibility is questionable in the context of PACS-L, even though
most subscribers allow their names to be revealed by the listserv.

From an emotional standpoint, I don't care to be called a wallflower.
The connotations are painful, probably because I avoid dances.
Others might object to the image of a neglected partner.  I'm
more at ease as a lurker, perhaps because I'm used to the term.

For a gentle moniker, I'd suggest "reader."  I don't mind being
a list reader, as opposed to an active participant.

Finally, for fun, consider whether Tolkien's use of the word
"burgler" fits the situation.

                                        -- Ken
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From: LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET (Public-Access Computer Systems Forum)
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Subject: Belgium Libraries
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:55:56 GMT
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4 Messages, 83 Lines
*-----
From:         Elliot Palais <IACESP@ASUACAD>
Subject:      Internet accessible library?
From: Elliot Palais
Try University of Antwerp. The listserv is QNAMES@BANUFS11. A
message sent there might get a reply.

Elliot Palais, Social Sciences Coordinator
Arizona State University Libraries,
Tempe, AZ 85287; IACESP@ASUACAD; IACESP@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
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From:        "Robert Clarke (McGill Univ. Management Library)"
             <CZRY@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Internet accessible library?
************************************************************************
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*    (c) The following text was extracted from a document that is      *
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*                                                                      *
************************************************************************
*Text from Libraries accessible through the Internet (October 16, 1992)
*Extracted 92/11/06 23.49.26
>Vjire Universiteit Brussel

 Location: Brussels, Belgium

 To access:

 1.    Type TELNET RC1.VUB.AC.BE.
 2.    Type vubis at the login prompt.
 3.    Select 1 for VT100.
 4.    Select E for English.

 To exit, type X.

*-----
From: UNIVERSITEITSBIBLIOTHEEK KU NIJMEGEN <J.Verbaas@ubn.kun.nl>
Subject: OPAC's in Belgium
> Does anyone out there know the telnet address for any library
> OPAC's in Belgium?  I would be most appreciative of any advice in
> this regard.  Thanks in advance.
>
>
> ***************************************************
> *  Lillian Sorenson                               *
> *  Automation Librarian                           *
> *  Dickinson State University Library             *
> ***************************************************

Look in Hytelnet and you will find it!  Try telnetting to: access.usask.ca
login with : hytelnet

Vrije Universiteit Brussel
==========================
telnet: rc1.vub.ac.be  (134.184.15.1)
login: vubis
select 1 for vt100 emulation
select e for English

----

University of Antwerp
=====================
telnet: main.bib.uia.ac.be  (143.169.20.1)
hit return on main screen for OPAC
select E for English


Bye,

Jaap Verbaas  (most of the time a happy 'lurker')
University Library Nijmegen
the Netherlands
J.Verbaas@ubn.kun.nl
*-----
From: cares@info.umd.edu (Lionel Cares)
Subject: Re:  Internet accessible library?
a good thing to do would be to try the gopher site of Belgium, one must
exist. Otherwise I would try sending a message to any important ftp site
such as nptn.org
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:21:49 CDT
From:         RHADDEN@USGSRESV.BITNET
Subject:      Statement of Work

Please respond directly to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Dana

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
If anyone on this net has a "Statemnent of Work" from a "Request for Proposals"
regarding the cleaning up of databases and authority control, we would
appreciate a copy.
  Please send one to:
        Joan Nugent
        Cataloging Dept
        US Geological Survey Library
        Mailstop 950
        Reston, VA 22092
        (703) 648-4499
Thanks.
   This notice was also posted on FEDLINK, the Federal Librarian's bulletin boar
d.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:45:05 CDT
From:         "(George Janczyn)" <janczyn%nowalls.ucsd.edu@Sdsc.BITnet>
Subject:      ERIC

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In keeping with the spirit of the recent query about getting access to ERIC:
Does anyone know how I can get free access to DIALOG?  I promise not to tell
anyone.
George Janczyn
janczyn@nowalls.ucsd.edu
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From:         "(Bill Britten)" <britten@utklib.lib.utk.edu>
Subject:      Position Opening

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
PROFESSIONAL VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT
FOR BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES REFERENCE LIBRARIAN
THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE, KNOXVILLE LIBRARIES

RESPONSIBILITIES:  The Reference Services Department of the John C. Hodges
Library is committed to traditional reference service, as well as the
application of emerging technologies, including networked CD-ROMs, end-user
searching, and public Internet workstations.  Within the department, this
position provides comprehensive assistance with an emphasis on biological
sciences.  Subject-focused liaison activities include extensive database
searching, collection management, and library instruction.  The Biological
Sciences Librarian will share general reference desk service with approximately
20 faculty and staff.  Some evening and weekend service required.  As one of 4
faculty reporting to the Reference Services Coordinator for Science and
Technology, the incumbent will contribute to developing and implementing
services designed for users in these disciplines.

QUALIFICATIONS:  ALA-accredited MLS degree; several years of academic/special
library experience, applicable to the description and responsibilities outlined
above, or an additional graduate degree in the sciences; strong service
orientation; ability to work effectively with faculty, students, and staff;
excellent communication and interpersonal skills.  Preferred:  Reference
experience in the biological sciences, including electronic reference sources;
undergraduate major in the sciences; experience in general reference;
familiarity with microcomputer applications.

Tenure track position.  Twenty-four days annual leave, tuition remission, usual
benefits.  Assistant or Associate Professor rank.  Salary:  Assistant Professor:
$25,000 minimum; Associate Professor: $30,000 minimum.  Send letter of
application, current resume, and names, addresses, and telephone numbers of
three recent references to:  Jill Keally, Head, Human Resources, The University
of Tennessee Libraries, 1015 Volunteer Boulevard, Knoxville, TN  37996-1000.
Review of applications will begin December 15, 1992, and will continue until the
position is filled.  UTK IS AN EEO/AA/TITLE IX/SECTION 504/ADA EMPLOYER.
From: dmattiso@cue.bc.ca (David Mattison)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pacs-l
Subject: Merit's Cruise2 with Windows 3.0
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:41:21 GMT
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I've run Cruise2 under Windows 3.0 on a standard VGA monitor. Only problem is
the button labels don't show until one is clicked on. It's slow as well, but
I don't know whether that's due to a minimum RAM configuration with a 386DX at
25 MHz.

David Mattison
Victoria, BC, *CANADA*
Internet: dmattiso@cue.bc.ca
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From: PEMMONS@WCU.BITNET
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pacs-l
Subject: Musings after 5 on words, fun, and degrees
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:39:59 GMT
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
 Librarians are some of the finest people in the world (if you read on, please
 bear in mind that I am one and proud of it), but I must say that we tend to
 take ourselves and all else awfully seriously. Attend a conference catering
 both to librarians and computer techies, and you may discover which group has
 more fun after hours. And if one can enjoy oneself even during "hours" while
 being productive, I know of no law against it.

 It seems to me that whatever hacker coined the term "lurker" had among other
 things a sense of humor (characteristically!), that most here objecting to the
 term are librarians who need one (dare I say equally characteristically?), and
 that stubbornness against the established language of a kindred group does
 nothing to build desired bridges.

 I can still hear a high school English teacher: "Use a new word three times
 and it's your friend for life." Why stay enemies with something so ready to be
 a friend as that? And if hackers use jargon to distinguish insiders from
 outsiders-- well, how about some _noblesse_oblige_ from those of us who can do
 the same so much more effectively with the MLS? There is no master's degree in
 hacking, although its honorifics, however informal, require as much labor and
 expertise to earn. (Far more than learning jargon; overuse of which in any case
 defines not the hacker but the wannabee, to cite again Raymond's NHD.) If,
 as degrees in computer science credentialize their field as thoroughly as
 library science, their ability to smile along the way disappears, it will be
 the world's loss.

 Paul Emmons, after hours from West Chester University
From: GEORGE@UMVMA.BITNET (George Rickerson)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pacs-l
Subject: Circulation studies
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:59:28 GMT
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Please reply to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks

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I would like to make contact with persons who:

1) have done studies of collection use in connection with planning or
   implementation of high density and/or remote storage of library materials,
   e.g., in order to identify those materials which could be placed in such a
   storage facility;
2) operate or use an automated library system which records and can report
   numbers of circulations for individual items.

Please reply to me directly (not through PACS-L).  Thanks in advance.


George Rickerson            GEORGE@UMVMA.BITNET
Office of Library Systems   umccfgw.rickeg@ssgate.missouri.edu
513 Clark Hall              (314) 882-7233
Univ. of Missouri System
Columbia, MO 65211
From: 35007_321@uwovax.uwo.ca (Gord Nickerson)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pacs-l
Subject: recent uploads to libsoft
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:02:13 GMT
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Recent Uploads to the LIBrary SOFTware archives.

These files are available by anonymous FTP from HYDRA.UWO.CA in the
LIBSOFT directory.

Please retrieve the file INDEX.TXT for a description of all files.

ACADLIST.TXT    The 5th Revision of the Directory of Scholarly Electronic
                Conferences. (How to obtain it - not the actual list!)

LIBRARIES.WP5   Billy Barron's Internet Library Guide which list library
                catalogs and databases on the Internet accessible by
Telnet. This is the WordPerfect 5.1 version. A Binary File.

INTERNET_CRUISE_WIN.EXE
                Merit's Cruise of the Internet. This is the version for
                Microsoft Windows. A binary file.

INTERNET_CRUISE_WIN.TXT
                An ASCII file explaining the Windows version.

BIBL771.ZIP     Simple to use online catalog for a small personal library.
                Comes with a sample database.

BIBNET27.ZIP    Novell Netware version of BIBL.

KWIK15.ZIP      ZK indexing program. Produces KWIC or KWOC indexes from
                ASCII files.

Gord Nickerson, Research Coordinator
University of Western Ontario
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:43:30 CDT
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From:         "(H.Hrusa, Univ.of Techn. Vienna)" <hhrusa@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Subject:      PTS Codes, IPC

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

Is there any ftp site where I can get the following
classification schemes:

Predicasts Code Thesaurus (Product Codes, Event Codes,
Country Codes)

The International Patent classification

Thanks,
Hans Hrusa, Univ.Library, Univ.of Technology, Vienna, Austria
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:39:13 CDT
From:         SPOBER@manvax.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Electronic discussion tip

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have read that while unsubscribed accounts can post to SOME lists,
others will only accept postings from subscribers.

Stacy Pober spober@manvax.bitnet spober@manvax.cc.mancol.edu
From: drobison@library.Berkeley.EDU ((David Robison))
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Subject: Confusion on cite in Current Cites 3(10)
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:56:22 GMT
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*************************In Response To******************
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 15:07:13 CST
From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Subject: Re: Current Cites 3, no. 10 (1992), Pt. I

Howdee,
Vivienne Roumani cited a report: "Out of the Archives and
Into the Streets:  American Memory in American Libraries", but did
not say where or how I can get a copy. I need a copy, because an
earlier insider report stimulated my lab to acquire certain hardware
commiserate with this particular project, and I am more than ready to
proceed. Thanks for your attention, and have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
**********************************************************
The cite in question goes as follows:

Polly, Jean Armour, and Elaine Lyon. "Out of the Archives and
Into the Streets:  American Memory in American Libraries" Online
16(5) (September 1992):51-57.  This is a report on the Library
of Congress' American Memory Project, "a multimedia collection of
electronic archival materials searchable by microcomputer," and
first reactions by the testing libraries.  Included in this
article are hardware requirements and whom to contact for more
information. - VR

The stems from the unfortunate lack of italics in plain
ASCII text.  The article appeared in the print journal Online,
not an online source.  To try and avoid this confusion in
the future, Current Cites will cite the journal as ONLINE.

I hope this clears things up,

David F.W. Robison                   Internet: drobison@library.berkeley.edu
Editor, Current Cites                  Bitnet: drobison@ucblibra
Library Technology Watch Program        Voice: (510)642-7600
UC Berkeley Library                       Fax: (510)643-7891
Berkeley, CA 94720
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