From: mac@dwaihir.cadlab.de (Martin Cordsmeier)
Subject: Re: Comparing Stylewriter with DeskWriter (Long)
Organization: Cadlab
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:38:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.054536.14246@news.cs.indiana.edu>, John Lacey <johnl@spinner.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
|> I seem to recall a comparison between these two a while back (a year,
|> maybe two).  I am buying something, almost certainly one of these, and
|> I would like to know what people think of them.
|> 
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|> -- 
|> John Lacey        ``What's wrong with my style is not a lack of expressiveness
|>                     or lucidity, but vulgarity.''                --G. H. Hardy

Some weeks ago I asked a similar question. Here are the answers I received.

In the meantime I bought a StyleWriter. I have no problems with the printer,
its speed is sufficient for me (one page per minute). I like its straight
paper path (you can use thick paper or envelopes) and its small footprint.
It produces excellent quality.

Martin 

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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 12:35:32 -0400
From: "T.S. Eliot" <toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>
To: mac@dwaihir
Subject: Re: Stylewriter vs. HP Deskwriter, which one should I buy 
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Jun22.144933.7183@uni-paderborn.de> you write:
>I would like purchase a new printer for my Mac LC II. Which one should I buy?
>The Apple Stylewriter or the HP Deskwriter? I need the printer only for 
>printing text documents, not for images. What are the advantages and
>disadvantages of the printers?

As far as I can tell, the best advantage to the HP is its speed, an advantage
slightly negated by the new StyleWriter driver (available on the System 7
Tuneup disk, version 1.1.1, available for anonymous ftp from ftp.apple.com).
This driver is essential if you don't have all
day to wait for your output.

The HP is expensive, larger, and (I believe) lower resolution.  The StyleWriter
has a resolution of 360 dpi (!).

>
>What kind of fonts do I need to work with this printers (true type, bitmap)?

TrueType works fine but is slow.  "Pure" bitmap fonts (of the old public
domain, shareware variety) are a problem because of the higher resolution
of the StyleWriter (see above).  Adobe Type Manager, available direct from
Adobe with only a $7.50 shipping charge (call 1-800-521-1976 ext. 4400, the
package includes roman, italic, bold, and bold italic faces of the Adobe
Garamond font) is a godsend.  It lets you print PostScript fonts to screen or
to a non-PostScript printer (i.e. StyleWriter) at any size.  The major 
restriction is the need for PostScript printer fonts; Adobe provides
some ordering information with the package.

Adobe Type Manager is much faster than TrueType, and, in my opinion and that
of many professional type designers, the PostScript outlines that it uses
are more professional than those used in some TrueType fonts.

>Do I get problems if I want to redirect a document to a postscript file 
>for printing on a laser writer. (We have Apple laser writers hooked up on 
>Sun Workstation in the office.

With the new System 7 LaserWriter driver, you can select printing to a 
PostScript file via the driver's dialog box; just click on "Print to
Disk."  On a System 6 LW driver, hold down command-f after you click OK
and it will prompt you to name the PostScript file it's about to write to
your disk.  Unfortunately, your timing has to be pretty good to catch the
driver before it starts looking for the printer.  Best to switch to the
v. 7.0 driver.  Note that you have to change to the LaserWriter in your
Chooser dialog for either trick to work.  This is recommended anyway if
you do careful formatting of your documents, because the spacing between
lines, letters and other objects can change subtly from one printer to 
the other, wasting all the time you spent formatting the document.

>Thank you in advance

Hope this helps.

--Tim Jarrett (toj8j@fermi.clas.virginia.edu)


Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 18:41:01 GMT
From: skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok)
To: mac@dwaihir
Subject: Re: Stylewriter vs. HP Deskwriter, which one should I buy 
Organization: Inst. f. Thermodynamik u. Waermetechnik (ITW), U. of Stuttgart, FRG
Cc: 

Bisher benutze ich nur einen HP-Desk Jet an einer DOS-Maschine. Ueber
die Schriften fuer den Betrieb am Mac kann ich daher nichts sagen. 

Mein Eindruck von der Qualitaet des Geraets selbst 
ist beim HP allerdings viel besser als beim Stylewriter. Und deutlich
schneller ist er auch, wenn man ihn ueber Apple-Talk anschliesst.

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Date: 22 Jun 92 15:01:00 EST
From: "William Johnston" <johnston@minnie.me.udel.edu>
Subject: Re: Stylewriter vs. HP Deskwriter, which one should I buy
To: "mac" <mac@dwaihir>

DeskWriter ... twice as fast, larger capacity ink cartridge (cheaper
per page to use), prints at 300 dpi so that your documents paginate
the same as with LaserWriter.  New versions are AppleTalk-ready and
upgradeable to color DeskWriter C.

Stylewriter ... *very* small and portable, 360 dpi resolution, but
slow and expensive to use.

Both work with TrueType and ATM outline fonts.  HP can also use
AGFA fonts.

I'm very happy with my DeskWriter ...

-- Bill


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