HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Subject: Re: Far Right's New "Bill of Rights"
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:22:48 GMT


alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:

>In article <1992Sep7.111021.2245@afit.af.mil>, jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:

>	[re: property forfeiture laws]

>|> May I ask how forfeiture laws have come to be blamed on conservatives?
>|> This law was passed by the Congress in it's on-going effort to fight
>|> the drug war.  

>	Naturally, congress had a hand in the war on drugs, but it was still
>Bushs baby. He campaigned on in in 88, he promoted it heavly, he lobbied
>for the laws to be passed, and he went to great lengths to be associated
>with the War on Drugs. If anybody deserves credit for this little tidbit,
>it's George. Besides, it only affects drug dealers, or anybody else who
>likes to take a wad of cash when they go on vacation.

This is pure escapism.  Both branches pushed for and passed this
legislation.  If this was some great thing in your mind, you'd be just
as quick to give Congress full credit for it because presidents don't
create laws. 

>|> upheld its legality.  Does *everything* have to be pinned on one side or
>|> the other?  Can't we do anything as a country anymore?

>	Hmm. can we get GHWB to take some responsibilty for the worst
>economic environment since the depression? Last I heard, it was still the
>fault of the "deadlock congress". Last I heard, George wasn't responsible
>for the bills the he signed, let alone the stuff that he never heard of
>(like Iran Contra).

Again with this "worst since the depression" stuff?  If you say it often
enough will it become true?  Anyway, I have heard Bush take some
responsibility for the resession.  He only balks when it's pinned
completely on him--which is back to the point I made above.  All you get
(from both parties) is finger pointing.  That's the climate, and if you
don't play, you get run over.  

How quickly do you think we'll have a capital gains tax cut if Clinton 
is elected?  It can't be passed now, because the "credit" will go to
Bush.  So they block it, even though they know it's  best.  And I know
this goes on in reverse too.  As issues get smaller and smaller (thanks
to the media), everything gets more black and white.  Sharing the glory,
or responsibility takes too much time and is much to complicated.


-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
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From: lazarus@ocf.berkeley.edu (Andrew J. Lazarus)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: EDITORIAL: Sexual revolution -- Duke CHRONICLE
Date: 8 Sep 1992 21:14:51 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailstorm.berkeley.edu
Keywords: family values, sex, sexual revolution, editorial

In article <5097@news.duke.edu> eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:

>Taken without permission from the Duke CHRONICLE < student-run newspaper >
>from Wed Sep 02 92, p 11.

Is this a "student-run" newspaper or one of those right-wing tabloids
supported by extremist conservative foundations?

>"Sexual revolution oversteps boundaries into immorality"
>James Knudsen [second-year law student at Duke]
>
>The chancellor of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst recently
>approved the inclusion of pedophilia as a protected category within the
>"Sexual Orientation" section of its affirmative action statement.

How about any citation to this in the mainstream press.

>In July,
>Judge Jerry Lockett of Traveras County, Florida, threw out charges against
>a man charged with statutory rape because, he said, the law violated the
>teenager's privacy right to have sex with adults. These events, which went
>mysteriously unnoticed in the press, bring shock to the faces of people who
>hear them, but they foreshadow an extension of sexual plurality that is not
>as improbable as some might think.

This case I think I vaguely remember. Didn't it have to do with the law
only covering older-male/younger-female? Or that the age of consent was
lower for boys than for girls. Laws like that haven't been doing too
well in the courts.

Usually when somneone takes time out from real work to investigate things
printed in this sort of paper, they turn out to be bogus.

andY
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: dks@MIT.EDU (dks)
Subject: Never EVER thinky-poo for de headhurtz
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 14:21:25 EST
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In article <1937@celia.UUCP> celia!steve@usc.edu spells it out for us:
> In article <6240@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil writes:
> ->celia!steve@usc.edu whimpers:
> -># Thank you. I have been wondering how long it would take for someone
> -># to notice this. And I will continue to do it. I learned how to tweak 
> -># elitist from RUSH and Danny Boy.
> ->
> ->Well, doesn't that take the cake? We're supposed to dumb-down now to avoid
> ->being considered elitist by Rush's numbskull army. Thank you for confirming
> ->that Rush's appeal is to the lowest common denominator.
>
> It looks like some people need everything spelled out for them.
> I knew those where mistakes. Democrates is obvious. Only an Elitist
> would bother to point them out. You have just identified yourself as 
> one. Thats why I typed it the way it was. Remember Rush -
> "Sometimes you have to show absurdity by being absurd"
> Yes I will continue to NOT correct my typos and might even use that
> extra e every now and than.

Iggly-pip, manakahawahaehauea booty wiggizooms.  Foo thuradanay, wagga-wagga
root-rooty zimba-kem: toro'el, mi saggin' bursitis, NOT!  And all zippy de'ol
banana boat jes floatin' along, never EVER thinky-poo for de headhurtz.  But,
zinkum tinkle, Onan the Barbarian iff polly-wolly-doodle all the day.  In
corroborree wolly'woo, euno, manna Dannikins weenie toots!

Moreover, ee isn't cumming and neither is ertnog an ebb-white: gotta watch
that cholesterol, son.


> By the way, do you "elightened" quayle bashers realiase that Dan usually
> reads from a speech. Is it not possible that he said it the way the speech
> writers intended him to say it. Why on earth would they ever do that ?
> "Born Free as Free as the Grass Grows....."
> Do I need to spell this one out or have you got it yet ?

Go ahead, spell it out -- just to show us you can, that is.


> Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.

No, I didn't think you could count to 13 million, either.


> ps - Heres some help. Remember the Washington Post.

That's the Alamo, fool.


Dhanesh

  Help stamp out stupidity: take a flying leap.

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From: jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:24:19 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep13.000325.3310@anasazi.com> john@anasazi.com writes:
>Keywords:

	I said:
>]
>]	Yeah, but the fact of the matter is that the bulk of his
>]listeners DON'T have that half a brain.  Almost all (of not all) of
>]the people who have access to this network are at least reasonably
>]well educated and can see the obvious sarcasm in Rush's statement.
>]HOWEVER, the majority of the American people aren't quite that lucky.
>](and by lucky I mean a)lucky enough to be intelligent and b)lucky
>]enough to have gone to college).  
>Hmmm... is this incredibly arrogant, or what?
 
	Maybe so, but it is true.  THINK about it for a second.  Most
people will readily admit that those who've attended college are the
more intelligent members of our society.  Therefore, by sheer
definition the rest of the populace, IN GENERAL, is not as smart.  Of
course there are going to be smart people who don't go to college, and
dumb people who do, but in the general case my original statement was
correct.

>]	They hear that and it goes through their minds that he really
>]will tell them what to think.  Try and remember what the smarter kids
>]back in your high school were called.  Right.  The smart kids, in
>]general were ridiculed just for being smart.  Intelligenece,
>]unfortunately, has gotten a bad rap in American schools in the past
>]decade or two.  Turn that around and this country will be back on it's
>]way to the top again.
>
>Har har har. Many of the most intelligent people I know are liberal
>fools. Intelligence doesn't seem to be that useful a predictor of
>social intelligence. Besides, if they do let him tell them what
>to think, it's fine with me.... I agree with him on almost
>everything (War on Drugs TM excepted).
>

	Hold on a second.   You're saying "I agree with this guy,
I'm OBVIUOSLY right, therefore let this guy tell people what to
think".  And you called ME arrogant!!!  I don't care what someone
thinks he has NO right to tell others what to think.  Even if I find
someone with whom I agree 100% I still wouldn't want him telling
people "Think this:...".  You seem to be advocating (look it up) a
society where people are told what to think and when to think it.
Always remember BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!
>-- 
>John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-9326)
>john@anasazi.com ncar!noao!asuvax!anasaz!john anasaz!john@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
> - - Saddam Hussein... he just keeps going... and going... and going - -


-- 
"Make up your stories, the truth's so hard to say.
 Brain is numb, and your tounge, will surely dig your grave." 
							-Dave Mustaine
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From: bblumenf@ems.cdc.com (Robert Blumenfeld)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:19:20 GMT
Reply-To: bblumenf@ems.cdc.com
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Distribution: na
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1992Sep14.193756.29264@anasazi.com>, best@anasazi.com (Mike Best) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep13.111949.6172@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
|> >In article <1992Sep13.045615.465@eng.ufl.edu> jason@alpha.ee.ufl.edu (Jason Nadrowski) writes:
|> >> The ridicule of Dan Quale has gone far enough!  It's gotten so bad that
|> >> the jokes are preceived as fact.  People actually believe that Quale
|> >> is a stupid moron.  Didn't someone call him a functioning illiterate on
|> >> this net?  He is human.  He makes mistakes just like you and me.  
|> >> 
|> >
|> >I have seen quite a few of Mr Quayle's finer moments on TV over the past
|> >several years......
|> > 
|> >Sure. People make mistakes. Mr Quayle's mistake is trying to be something he is
|> >not. All too often he "mis-speaks" himself and people have a slightly slearer
|> >idea about what he really thinks - as opposed to how his handlers want to
|> >portray him.......
|> >
|> There is certainly a difference between oration and statesmanship.  The
|> Quayle bashers have equated the two but I do not.  Great orators of 
|> history have include such people as Hitler and Churchill but the underlying
|> value system of the two was vastly different.  
|> 
|> If the people want an orator then Quayle is not their man.  Perhaps you
|> prefer demagogues to statesmen.

Your reasoning completely escapes me.  To cut through it, I would say
that I agree Quayle's no orator, but that doesn't automatically make him a 
statesman.  Conversely, as Churchill showed, being an orator
doesn't preclude one from being a statesman.

|> 
> Mike Best
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From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Why Can't Republicans or Programmers Spell?
Keywords: silly
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:41:14 GMT
Reply-To: jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

sgparker@eos.ncsu.edu (SCOTT GRAHAM PARKERSON) writes:
# jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:

# }Computer programmers built the USENET and at the same time initiated this
# }completely bogus and self-serving idea that the illiterate use of the
# }language was okay, and even irrelevant. Of course, if they wrote their
# }programs with the same attitude, the programs would not work. These
# }same people belch at the dinner table, wear their jeans with the top half
# }of their butt cracks showing, and bath infrequently. And then they complain
# }they can't get dates. Sadly, they usually end up marrying insane women who
# }are looking for a way out of the half-way house.
# 
# I have three words for you, John: argumentum ad hominum.
# Actually, you were probably kidding, weren't you?  I mean, I'd hate to offend
# you, REALLY!

No, I meant every word of it. And most of the punctuation, too! :-)

John
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: latone@trixie.ide.com (Joe Latone)
Subject: Splittable Scrollbars
Organization: Interactive Development Environments
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 18:58:53 GMT

I've defined a splittable scrollbar in my application, not because I want
Xview to handle spilt veiws for me but because I want Xview to handle the
user interface of dragging the scrollbar's anchor to a certain position.
When the user releases the anchor, I want to handle things from there
and just have Xview forget about doing anything else.

In order to do this, I placed an interposer on the scrollbar and,
as advertised, the interposer gets ACTION_SPLIT_HORIZONTAL or
ACTION_SPLIT_VERTICAL events once the user releases the mouse button
which was used to click and drag the anchor.  However, at this point,
if I call any xv_get() or xv_set() functions, what happens when my 
interposer either returns or passes the event to the next interposer is 
that the mouse pointer remains captured/constrained to the scrollbar area,
as if the mouse button was still down and the anchor was still being dragged.

Does anyone have any insight into that particular problem or 
any other suggestions for trying to use the scrollbar anchor in this way?

Also, if I wanted to take this to a lower (X) level, I could use something
like WIN_CONSUME_EVENTS to handle the dragging of he anchor myself,
but the problem with this is that I need to access the "window" that is
defined for the scrollbar, but I don't know how to get at it given a
Scrollbar object (i.e., there's no xxxx_NTH_PAINT_WINDOW object for a
Scrollbar like there is for a Canvas or a Textsw.)

Thank you for any help.  Regards, Joe

Xref: sparky alt.toolkits.xview:856 comp.windows.open-look:3795
From: andy@meefun.autodesk.com (Andrew Purshottam)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Spacing out Iconic Items in a Menu.
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:59:40 GMT
Reply-To: andy@autodesk.com
Followup-To: alt.toolkits.xview
Organization: Autodesk Inc.

Hi, I am creating Items in a Menu that have server images in them. The
menu comes up fine, but the itmes are spaced so closely together that their
3d edges and default shadows overlap. I tried setting the PANEL_ITEM_Y_GAP
on the menu items and the menu, but with no effect, and there does not
seem to be a MENU_ITEM_Y_GAP. Any suggestions?
 Thanks, Andy (andy@autodesk.com)
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"The views expressed are those of the speaker."
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: ccav27@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("Y.Chen")
Subject: Re: Display Picture (e.g. gif)
Organization: University of Strathclyde
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:10:04 GMT




In article <1992Sep4.150318.6457@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>, s_stoehr@rzw7.rz.uni-ulm.de (Stefan Stoehr) writes:
|> Hi, 
|> 
|> I want to display a Gif-Picture in a Window (with slider ...)
|> 
|> Any hint for me ???
|> 
|> Steve
|> 


If you just want to SEE the picture on the screen, xloadimage
is probably the best candidate for you. Though  it does not 
offer the slider. 

Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: doehr@magellan.den.mmc.com (Brett B. Doehr)
Subject: Re: How to delete textpane contents??
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:49:52 GMT

In article <18541.2aa5d330@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 8328327c@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
|> I am having a problem trying to erase the contents of a text subwindow
|> 
|> This is the code:
|> 
|> 
|> xv_set(base->textpane, TEXTSW_READ_ONLY, FALSE, NULL);
|> i=textsw_erase(base->textpane, 1, TEXTSW_INFINITY);
|> xv_set(base->textpane, TEXTSW_READ_ONLY, TRUE, NULL);
|> 
|> i is given value 0.
|> 
|> I have tried textsw_delete, and using specific values rather than
|> TEXTSW_INFINITY without succes.

Try doing:

 textsw_reset(base->textpane, 0, 0);

The last two args are the x,y location to popup a window if there
is a problem resetting the window contents.  

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Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: rickg@eng.sun.com (Richard M. "The Tankster" Goldstein)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Re: xv_window_loop/xv_window_return
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:56:36
Organization: SunSoft, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rickg@eng.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: irondude
In-reply-to: downey@inmet.camb.inmet.com's message of 15 Sep 92 13:28:50 GMT


   From: downey@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Terry Downey)
   Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
   Date: 15 Sep 92 13:28:50 GMT
   Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA

   These functions are described (in XView 3.0 Reference Manual: Converting
   SunView Applications) as replacements for window_loop and window_return.
   The XView Reference Manual also mentions them, but O'Reilly Volume Seven
   does not and a grep of the header files finds no evidence of either function.
   As far as I know, everything (documentation and source) is Version 3.  Can
   anyone tell me anything about these functions?


the XVPM and XVRM for Version 3 both document the xv_window_loop/return
functions.  the fact that they aren't prototyped in any headers was a
bug that has since been fixed.  you should be ok if you delair them as
extern's.


<<tank
--

*********************************************************************

	Richard M. "Tank" Goldstein		rickg@Eng.Sun.COM
	Window Developer Environment,
	SunSoft, Inc.

	"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind
	of person I'm preaching to"

				-"Bob" in Newsweek

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Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.open-look
From: gerald@atlastele.com (Gerald Aden)
Subject: setting font for menu items
Keywords: menu font
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:52:06 GMT

How does one set the font for a menu using the XView toolkit?  There doesn't
seem to be any attributes for doing this.

Thanks in advance,
Gerald Aden
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From: martin@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk (Martin Spenceley)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Devguide Drag Drop.
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:44:16 GMT
Reply-To: martin@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk
Organization: Edinburgh University Chemical Engineering Department.
Originator: martin@wick


Using Devguide 3.0 and its own drag drop (gdd) functions I have been trying to set my text items to accept a drop from a DRAGDROP item.

I have set up a panel item to have a drop site along the lines of the _ui.c code for implementing a drop site.

The gdd callback function is not letting the drop site for a text item to be registered, claiming it is an illegal drop site. Is this because the DevGuide drag drop implementation does not work with items other than canvas, list and panel?

Anyone out there know how to use the DevGuides gdd functions to allow text items be used?

Any help greatly appreciated in order to prevent this bald patch getting any bigger!

Martin

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    Department of Chemical Engineering         Email M.W.Spenceley@uk.ac.ed   
    Edinburgh University                       or    martin@uk.ac.ed.chemeng  
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: lmfjyh@lmf.ericsson.se (Jyrki Holopainen)
Subject: Re: canvas resize
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:18:58 GMT

jjohnson@tramp.Colorado.EDU (James Johnson) writes:

>Dear XVEIW Gods,

>I am just starting to use XVIEW and already I am puzzled.
>I compiled the line.c program from the O'Reilly book and
>found that it did not work the way I had expected it to.
>When ever the window is resized such that at least one
>dimension is increased, then a REPAINT event is generated
>and a new line is drawn across the canvas.  If, however,
>the window is resized such that it is smaller in both the
>x and y dimension, then the repaint procedure is NOT called.
>Can any one expain to me why?  How can I get repaint events
>if the window is made smaller in both dimensions.  HELP!

>Thanks in advance,
>jjohnson@unavco.ucar.edu

I guess there is no way to get repaint events when a canvas
is shrinked in both x- and y-directions.

I have solved the problem by installing the following CANVAS_RESIZE_PROC.

/*
** Handle canvas resize events.
*/
void 
canvasResizeProc(Canvas canvas,
                 int    width,
                 int    height)
{
   static int previousWidth = 0,
              previousHeight = 0;

   /*
   ** Repaint the canvas if it smaller than before, because
   ** the Notifier does not send repaint events, if the window shrinks.
   */
   if((width < previousWidth  &&  height <= previousHeight) ||
       (height < previousHeight  &&  width <= previousWidth))
   {
        /*
        ** Repaint here.
        */
   }
   
   previousWidth = width;
   previousHeight = height;
}

-- 

Jyrki Holopainen
From: buzz@toxicavenger.bear.com (Buzz Moschetti)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Re: Xview Scroll List Problem? Help Needed!
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:45:35 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc.
In-reply-to: bmb@siren.cs.wayne.edu's message of 8 Sep 92 07:41:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.074120.26234@cs.wayne.edu> bmb@siren.cs.wayne.edu (Amir M. Baig) writes:

	[ ...deleted... ]
   But it does not show the whole list , just shows one 
   scroll item  at a time. I want to show couple of entries in one
   shot. 

I think you may be confusing the PANEL_LIST_ROW_HEIGHT attribute with
PANEL_LIST_DISPLAY_ROWS.  The former is the height in pixels of each
row; default is the ascend height + descend height of the current font.
The latter is the number of rows you wish to make visible in the
scrolling list.  Try:

		plitem =  (Panel_item)xv_create(panel1, PANEL_LIST,
		    PANEL_LIST_DISPLAY_ROWS, 16.
		    PANEL_NOTIFY_PROC,     which_class,
		    NULL);
From: wee@cs.ucdavis.edu (Chris Wee)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Source for O'Reilly XView 3.0 Programming Man. -- NOTICE package only
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:24:23 GMT
Reply-To: wee@cs.ucdavis.edu
Organization: Computer Science, University of California at Davis.


does anyone have the sources for the NOITCES package from O'Reilly's
XView 3.0 Programming manual?  The sources on exports.lcs.mit.edu are for
the obsolete XView 2.0 / notice_prompt version.

Thanks much.

---
-chris