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From: cchang@quasar.ssc.gov (Charles Chang)
Subject: Should I buy this //c?
Keywords: Apple, //c, //e
Reply-To: cchang@quasar.ssc.gov
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory, Dallas, Texas
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:47:11 GMT

My colleague wants to sell me a //c, she is asking $100.  That is
just a basic //c which her kids do not want any more.  It has a mono
(9" ?) Apple monitor, and a built-in 5.25" floppy drive, and she did
not think she had invested anything else.

Is this a good price?  If not, how much should it be?

Also, is //e or //c a better machine?  I mean, consider the performance,
upgradibility, reliability, etc.  Thanks in advance for your replies.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix2.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: Accelerator Performance
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:05:24 GMT

toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
: 
: That performance increase comes from the 9mhz, and if you increased the memory
: size of the cache then that will make it faster too. Faster cache ram does not
: affect the speed of the machine, it only allows you to run the CPU faster
: (which _will_ affect the speed of the machine).
: 
: Jawaid is essentially correct; your cache ram is either:
: 	fast enough, and everything works
: 	almost fast enough, and the Zip acts flaky when it's warm
: 	not fast enough, and the Zip doesn't work at all
: FOR the clock frequency and CPU chip that is installed.
: 
	I'm not saying that Jawaid is wrong, but I think u misunderstood
my point.  I was saying that I did try using both the 20ns and the 70ns
cache ram chips under 9mhz and it's the 20ns cache rams chips that give
me a better performance; which is the reason why I say get the fastest
cache ram chips within budget.

: Todd Whitesel
: toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu

	By the way, thanks for giving me the pinouts from the ProTerm 3
manual.  I've got a new modem cable configured and am now using my
14400bps modem on my GS.  Really appreciate ur help. :)

- DOTW -

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ddkilzer@iastate.edu (David D Kilzer)
Subject: Need a joystick
Followup-To: schnekcl@mainrt.luther.uni.edu
Summary: need a joystick
Keywords: want buy joystick need
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:56:35 GMT

Hi!

     I have a friend in need of a joystick for her Apple //e.  It should
be compatible with Apple's brand joystick (have 2-buttons, an open-apple
and a closed-apple equivalent; no Atari or other non-compatible
joysticks please).  The joystick should also cost $10 to $15 (INCLUDING
SHIPPING).  A Mach III joystick is preferred; no Apple brand joysticks,
PLEASE!

     My friend lives at the University of Nothern Iowa, so anyone at UNI
who has a joystick that they can part with would be preferable, but if
shipping isn't a problem, then so be it.

     Her telephone number is (319) 273-4387 (ask for Val).  Her address
is:

Valerie Schnekloth
554 Noehren Hall UNI
Cedar Falls, IA 50613-9912

     I'll try to post a message (and/or cancel this one) when a joystick
is found.  Please do not reply to this message.

    THANKS!!

--Dave
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From: dcgreen@pro-harold.cts.com (David Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Woz certificates
Date: 13 Sep 92 10:30:46 GMT
Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication

Someone just told me that Apple sent certificates of authenticity to
registered owners of IIgs Woz Limited Edition models. Is that true? I 
never received one, if it is. Does that mean my Woz is a forgery? I also
have a second Woz that I bought used, and I didn't get one with it either.

David :(


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Subject: DOS 3.3 Launcher
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:03:09 GMT

The DOS 3.3 Launcher v1.1 is now being distributed - so keep your eyes
out.  [Don't ask me to post it to comp.binaries.apple2 - it's shareware].
In case you missed the previous description it lets you store old DOS
3.3 programs and games that use RWTS routines (but not DOS) on your hard
disk, and launch them from the GS finder (returning when you're finished
via a CDA).

A problem with this version is:
When using the control panel from a DOS program that uses the text screen
to store code or data, some parts of bank zero are not restored properly.
I suspect this is the screen holes, but haven't checked yet.

Questions:
Is it safe to patch the control panel vector to save and restore screen
holes?
If so should this be done as a PIF, or just while the DOS program is
active (and why)?

John MacLean.
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From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 08:45:41 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: random numbers/time
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <01GOOYKWJQYA006T9I@mc.duke.edu> POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU writes:
>********************* DEMPO Error Message ***********************
>UNSENT MAIL!
>NO NAME SPECIFIED!
>From:   BITNET::INFO-APPLE@APPLE.COM
>To:
>Subj:   random numbers/time
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>

Is anyone else getting these or is it just my site?  There have been about
15 of these over the weekend.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
From: taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: IIgs telecom programs...
Date: 8 Sep 92 04:36:30 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

mock@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Kenrick Mock) writes...
>
>Prizm?  I don't know about that :)  It's not made for telecomming.
>Prizm is really just a bunch of windows that have output for various
>"programs."

    Frank was referring to the way Prizm can scroll at text speeds
while maintaining a desktop interface.  It can keep up with text
coming in at 38400 bps by paging through the data (try scrolling
through a long file sometime).  The Foundation demo also has this
ability in its resource editor.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.apple2:20417 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:12653
From: tranter@Software.Mitel.COM (Jeff Tranter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Looking for info on Apple2 Emulator for PC
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:24:05 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

I recently bought a 386 PC compatible. My previous home machine was
an Apple //e, and I assumed I would have to say goodbye to my Apple
software.

But then I came across an Apple 2 emulator in the SIMTEL archives
(MSDOS/EMULATORS/APPLE2EM.ZIP).  I seems to work, but I have some
questions, and the author did not provide any information on how he
could be contacted.

Does anyhone know:
- how can Apple files be moved to the PC? (it wants images of the
  entire disk, not just files).
- is there an updated version of this program? (it's about 2 years old)
- where can the author, Randy Spurlock, be contacted?

Jeff
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From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: I might be gone for a while.
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:31:58 PST
Organization: BBS

I myself don't remember seeing a CFV ( call for vote )... and I check this
group daily ( infact, it's the only group I read ).

I wanted to vote YES too.

From the results, it seems close.  Almost 100 people voted yes, and 10 people
voted no.  Humm.... I would like to know the reason why those people voted NO.

Later!

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
cyprus systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Meta key for the GS
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:22:43 GMT

feiges@cae.wisc.edu (Howard Feiges) writes:


>HEllo people -its feiges here
>WEll, I own an apple IIGS and I also own a 9600 baud modem....  I
>also have a computer account for my courses here at UW Madison....

Use the ESC key for a META key. Works like a charm with my emacs here
at university.

Soenke
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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Minimum MAC as Appletalk Fileserver
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:42:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sat Sep 12 92 at 19:37:10 (EST)

> From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
> Since Appletalk requires a Mac as a fileserver, (or whatever you call it)
> what is the minimum Mac I can get to network my 2 GSes? 

Er, how about a Powerbook 100...
 
Actually, in previous years Apple has kept on 'upgrading' what Mac they feel
is an appropriate filesharer. It all depends on what YOU would be satisfied
with. I find it interesting that the most cost effective Macs right now seem
to be Powerbooks. 
 
Since the Powerbook 140 has sort of been discontinued, it would probably be a
available at reasonable prices (I've seen it for $1719 in the 4Megs of
Ram/40Meg hard drive configuration). 
 
Otherwise, the SE/030 is a decent choice, if you find one that somebody is
selling. The equivalent Mac (still in production) with that type of performance
is probably the Classic II. 
 
Last time I heard, Apple was suggesting the IIsi as the minimum file server. 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Subject: weather.shk...
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:33:11 GMT

In the uploads section of ccosun.caltech.edu (nee tybalt) I found
two files, weather.shk, and weathergs.shk. Both of these titles
intrigued me, but after downloading them (image or binary format
all the way) ShrinkitGS doesn't recognize them.

What are these files, and where is a good copy of them (or, what
am I doing wrong? I don't think I made any errors, as other files
in the same session came through fine.)

Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Plusworks and Norwich Data Services
From: lpowell@eis.calstate.edu (Larry Powell)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:13:11 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

  Does anyone know if Norwich Data Services still exists? (They are
the makers of Plusworks which is an Appleworks modifier that allows it
to run on an Apple II+.)
  I attempted to call them at both numbers that I had (800-221-3826 and
201-679-0594) and could not get through on either number. Their address
(which I have not tried) was  Norwich Data Services Ltd.
                              P.O. Box 356
                              East Norwich, New York  11732-0356

  I am interested in seeing if there is any way I can combine both
Plusworks (3) and Timeout stuff (in particular Reportwriter) into Appleworks
and get it to run on my II+.
  Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas on how (or if) to accomplish
this?
  Thanks,
--Larry Powell     lpowell@eis.calstate.edu     09/11/92  1015

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix2.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Duke Master Who?
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:34:08 GMT

	I hate to say this but I'm pretty irritated by nuisance mails
from the PostMaster at Duke University Medical Center.  There seems to
be a lot of mails from this person suddenly.  Below is an extract:

12 Sep 92 15:44:44 GMT          comp.sys.apple2               Thread 125
of 127
Article 38236              Re: PC Transporter...              Respno   1
of   1
POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU        at Duke University Medical Center, Durham
NC, USA
 
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UNSENT MAIL!
NO NAME SPECIFIED!
From:   BITNET::INFO-APPLE@APPLE.COM
To:
Subj:   Re: PC Transporter...
 
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To:
                                                            -- Last
response --

	Is there any wrong with my Internet mail reader that it cannot
read this person's mail or what??  How come I see so many of these funny
mails around??
	To the PostMaster of Duke: please check your mail reader b4
posting any more messages.

- DOTW -
I don't mean to be grouchy but I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds
these messages a nuisance.
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Proterm file transfer & aplleworks files
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:14:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep10.195221.16348@ll.mit.edu> yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
>
>
>	I am trying to transfer files from a sun to my apple IIc.
>
>	I am able to transfer the file to a disk, but the appleworks
>	software doesn't recognize it; it's in the wrong format.
>
>	What switches/options do I need to use in proterm when
>	transfering to get my file so appleworks recognizes it?

PT is probably setting the filetype as 'bin' after the download. If
this is the case, you need to change it to 'txt' before AW will look
at it.

>
>	Thanks
>
>	alan
>
>	Alan Yasutovich
>	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
>	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
>	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......

Rich

payner@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: Accelerator Performance
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:50:19 GMT

Ok, tell u guys what, I'll put back my old 70ns cache ram chips and do
some timing tests.  Then I'll update all of u as to the results.  I
might have misconceived the idea......

- DOTW -
From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Looking for TransWarp and Zip Chip info
Date: 12 Sep 92 15:33:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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From:	BITNET::INFO-APPLE@APPLE.COM
To:	
Subj:	Looking for TransWarp and Zip Chip info

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Apple Stupidity (was Re: Where does ProDOS come from?)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:30:13 GMT

>In article <1992Sep10.190124.2225@cci632.cci.com>, fjs@cci632.cci.com
>(Francis Schwalm) wrote:
>> 
>> I'm gonna be completely blunt here.  Whatever stupidity ever possessed apple
>> to release it that way?  The idea behind the name ProDOS -8- is 8-bit, right?
>> So how come only the apple users who have a GS can get a hold of it?  If you
>> don't have a GS you can't get it, EVEN THOUGH it was designed to be used by
>> the 8-bit apple ]['s.  I hope apple has a whopper of an explanation...
>> 
>> I'm gonna ask again:  Can someone AT apple put ProDOS 2.0.1 on ftp.apple.com
>> for those of us who have trouble fitting an 800K disk in a 140K floppy.

  Francis- it's an oversight.  Apple II group employees who (as Matt said)
maintain the FTP site on their own time do NOT intentionally make life
difficult for 8-bit users.  You really should learn to take it easy;
a more politely worded request or even just an observation would have been
more appropriate. 

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From: usr6473a@TSO.UC.EDU (Christopher Tarnowieckyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Convert GS to Mac fonts
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:04:36 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


I've created a GS font with font factory GS that I would like to send to a
friend who has a Mac.  How can I convert it so that he can use it?  Also,
is there anyway to take this font or a Mac font to Windows?

Chris Tarnowieckyi
usr6437a@tso.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Blue Helmet
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:54:35 GMT


To: Fred Gotfredson
Re: Blue Helmet

If you downloaded Blue Helmet from c.b.a2, that copy had already been
patched so that people on a ROM3 could steer to the left and right,
correctly.

If you got Blue Helmet from somewhere else, and are handy with a sector
editor, check block $01C3, Byte $01AD. If you find a $40 at that loation,
change it to a $50. That should allow you to steer both ways.

Joe Kohn
From: usr3947a@TSO.UC.EDU (Kenneth Wronkiewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Music program wanted!
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:20:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

FORWARDED FROM: /mail/39/usr3947a(#3218) From:info-apple-request@apple.com 09/15/92 03:47
In article <9209142017.AA15193@tso.uc.edu> usr3947a@TSO.UC.EDU (Kenneth Wronkiew
icz) writes:
>I have The Music Studio 1.2, but somehow it got screwed, and now it doesn't wor
k
>does anyone have a copy i could buy off them or could anyone sugest a 
>replacment?  i would like something that could at least read Music Studio forma
t
>preferebly noistracker also....... noistracker is just not a good music
>development tool...... wouldn't it be nice if there was a amiga mod EDITOR as 
>whell as player?
>BTW: soniqTRACKER 0.52 works only once before i need to unpack it again.....
>why? any bug fixes? more recent versions? contacts with the author? i have a 
>internet address for him, but the mailer puked.....

hi! it's me! new version forth-coming... need more be said? Also, you may
have a corrupt archive...dunno..

-----FORWARDED BY: usr3947a(Kenneth Wronkiewicz)
i don't think that i have a corupt archive.... works fine off of all the other
Apple club people's computers... are there any diagnostics programs out that
will let me know what is wrong with my computer?  the amount of bad programs
that work everywhere else is astronomical..........
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: more about my proterm...
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:02:59 GMT

fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:

>The exact error message when I used Zmodem to transfer a file was "got
>subpacket instead of heard ((xx/xxxx)" and "CRC does not match data".  These
>two errors would just repeat themselve over and over again.

Hehe :) THis happens all the time ... it's a problem with the way Z-Modem
works. If PT loses a char (either because you have the wrong driver, or your
HD is so damned slow, or whatever), or if another error occurs (perhaps
because you left V.42bis off), PT will send a ZRPOS. Now, the other
side receives this and responds ... but there are still about 8k data
in the other sides modem buffer, which PT gets (regardless of how
often it sends ZRPOS) and which, eventually, lead to a transfer that is
aborted. It seems Z-Modem just doesn't handle modern modems well :)

>I think the problem is that I don't have the correct driver.  Anyone know if
>insync have a special driver for the Zoom v.32bis?  If you happen to have a
>copy, can you send me it?

I did not see a special driver ... but how about using the Supra V.32bis FAX
(RTS/CTS) and customizing your Init message? Also use the Gs port driver
that does unbuffered xmits ... I admit I don't know if that actually changes
things, but oh well :)

I run my Supra at 57,600 and have no problems.

Soenke
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From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: soundmaster?
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:03:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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To:	
Subj:	Re: soundmaster?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jeffb@world.std.com (Jeffrey T Berntsen)
Subject: Re: SCSI cards
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 20:14:45 GMT

toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:

>ericm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Mulholland) writes:

>>Anyone else besides me hate what CVtech did to the menubar in the 3.0 roms?
>>Inversing the first letter like they did is ugly!

>They do it to make it obvious what the command-key equivalents are. Notice
>that some of them aren't the first letter.
>[old geezer voice] back when all we had was applesoft, people did that sort
>of thing all the time, AND WE LIKED IT!

I remember when we all had to have paper tape.  I'd get to work in the morning
and the system manager would make us punch our own bootstrap code into the tape
with a limp piece of spaghetti (AND WE WERE GRATEFUL TO HAVE IT!).  OOPS...

Sorry, wrong discussion....

Actually, I just helped a friend set up a RamFast with 3.0 ROM's and I kind of
liked knowing which keys to press instead of being forced to use the mousie.
Of course, I only have an old Apple rev. C SCSI myself but that's another
discussion ;-).

Jeff Berntsen
jeffb@world.std.com