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From: chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Subject: Re: Any Good Vincent Price Movies ?
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:54:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.151924.11710@shearson.com>, scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis) writes:
> In article 9059@ac.dal.ca, 01fortec@ac.dal.ca () writes:
>> In article <1992Nov20.002627.5298@microsoft.com>, pierres@microsoft.com (Pierre Stromberg) writes:
>> >      I just watched Roger Corman's "The Pit And The Pendulum" again
>> > starring Vincent Price. This guy is great ! Does anyone know of other
>> > good Vincent Price movies out there ? I heard a rumor about a movie
>> > called "Conqueror Worm" that was supposedly well received. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > -Pierre Stromberg         Microsoft Corporation         Redmond, Washington
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > uunet!microsoft!pierres   pierres@microsoft.UUCP   decvax!microsoft!pierres
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >      "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" - Samuel Johnson
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> The Raven, absolutely! It's funny, with good plot, sets and characters. It
>> also stars Boris Karloff, Peter Lorre and Jack Nicholson. It's directed by
>> Roger Corman, and is about a contest between two sorcerers.
 
What about the all-time horror-spoof "Dance of the Vampires", which has Alfie
Bass as a Jewish vampire, who upon being warded off by a damsel with a crucifix 
 says, "Lady, have *you* got the wrong vampire!!"

Is it available NTSC ???

D.N. Chorley
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: nking@unix1.tcd.ie (Nev's family recipe)
Subject: Re: Dark Star
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Distribution: alt.cult-movies
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:20:53 GMT

In <1992Nov23.151732.12610@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:

>Carpenter's Dark Star like Lucas's THX- started out as a student film.
>But both I think were completed after they graduated and had raised
>some $$$ (peanuts compared to the budgets they work with now but
>just try raising a few hundred thousand for a student film !).


Come on - that beach ball cant have cost more than 3 quid.  Big budget
my arse...


NeV
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:04:32 GMT

spongebo@cithara.login.qc.ca (THE EYE-BALL KID) writes:

>bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:

>> In article <BxwEEF.L34@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) w
>> >
>> >  The two most shocking movies of my childhood would have to be THE EXORCIST
>> >  AMITYVILLE (sp?) HORROR.  I must have been about 8 yr. old.  After both 
>> >  movies I got up from my chair and my legs were shaking so much I had to si
>> >  down.  Then of course Dad had to carry me up to bed.  :)
>> 
>> Your dad let you watch these two when you were 8? Did he let you play
>> in the street too? 
>> *    bob church                             *
>> *    bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu           *
>> *    D-8195 NFS #27                         *

  Well, I could have been 9 or 10, but I don't remember.  I wanted to watch 
  the movies, and my parents warned me, but I didn't care.  I guess they were
  right.  :)


-- 
 = U   U     IIIII =================Les Claypool- I will rape your personality==
 = U   U       I    John Meseke              Pummel you with my own philosophy==
 = U   U  of   I                              Strip you of your self-integrity==
 = UUUUU     IIIII  jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu===To make you all a bit like me.==
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Mark Twain??? Name This Movie
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:04:33 GMT

yes its a claymation with mark twain and characters from his books. huckfin becky and tom, with that l;eaping frog and actually 2 mark twains. in the end he catches a ride on a comet. very nicely done as for the exact titile i dont remember. but its enjoyable.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------

   	


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From: montyb@avalon.mlo.dec.com (Monty Brandenberg)
Subject: Re: Hardware Wars!!
Reply-To: montyb@avalon.mlo.dec.com (Monty Brandenberg)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:07:11 GMT


In article <1992Nov19.221153.8872@iscsvax.uni.edu>, dutkowsk5111@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
|
|Hi,
|  Does anybody remember the little "Showtime Short" called "Hardware Wars"??
| I think I saw it on HBO and Showtime in the early 80's befween flicks.  If
|Anyone remembers this, E-mail me.  If anyone has a transcript of it ,Please
|e-mail it to be.
|

This short and three others are available on a video tape called,
I believe, 'Hardware Wars'.  It includes on of the best movie parodies
I've ever seen.  Called 'Porklips Now,' it very effectively twists
the visual and dialog elements of Coppola's film as well as taking 
a jab or two at the director at the end.  I recommend watching it
immediately after the original.

						Monty
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal
From: bjbartlett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (I'm not really a doctor...)
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:52:41 -0500
Organization: Frog Mt.

In article <1992Nov20.144314.12243@shearson.com>, scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis) writes:
> dont you know owning a copy is illegal? my goodness. (hehehe)
> as long as u dont charge money they cant hit u with a fine. 
> i am sure someone on the net can get u one.
>
Then would it be legal to make an extra copy for myself, then, realizing "Hey,
why do I need two copies?" ask someone to trade my "extra copy" of Heavy Metal
for their "extra copy" of, say ... the longer tv version of Dune?  This is 
purely hypothetical I might add :)

Bart
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: oddekalv@vxcrna.cern.ch (Oyvind H.Oddekalv, bld.16 1-021, phone 3708)
Subject: Wim Wenders
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:33:00 GMT


Does anybody know what Wim Wenders is up to these days? I'm really exited of 
what he's coming up with after the rather disappointing "Until the End of the 
World'.

-yvind.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: "Oversensitivity" (was: Film Comment and Film Threat)
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:40:36 GMT

In article <6752@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> 6500cws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Christopher Wade Skinner) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.153024.9034@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>>>Yes, and it seems utterly fasinating to me that *champions* of FT
>>>would utilize this pointless and low-brow form of reverse snobbery.
>>>Look, for example, at FT's interview with Clive Barker back in 1989,
>>>or at some of their stuff on Raimi.  I'd call that pretentious bull-
>>>shit sooner than I'd call films I Hadn't Understood  "meaningless."
>
>>First off, please get your messages straight. I said some of this, and
>>the Stainless Steel Moviegoer said some of it, but I don't believe he
>>was "championing" FT.
>
>O.K.  I was responding to the post I saw.  Enough said.  Others I
>have encountered do use the argument to champion the most
>arrent nonsense in the name of "pretension-busting."
>
>>The Barker interview was pretentious Bullshit? Oh sorry, I thought it was a 
>>good article with a hell of a lot more actual information on the man
>>Clive Barker, than any other I have seen. But, the more recent interview
>><on the set of Hellraiser 3> was totally a waste. 
>
>Well, if you read what I wrote, including the "pace" that I have
>deleted, you would realize that I didn't say the Barker interview was
>pretentious bullshit--only that I would sooner label it pretentious
>bullshit than I would the Seventh Seal.  As it happens, I am of the
>opinion that while Clive came off well, his interviewer did come off
>as an ass of the first water.
>
>>Also, who else has used Barker's artwork to illustrate an article? 
>>Who among us knew that he did artwork?
>
>Well, I *own* some of his art, so can I play?
>
>>And I never claimed that it was the best, or hell, even that good anymore.
>>I just said I liked it better than "Film Comment". 
>>I'm not the one who has gotten on a soapbox and felt the need to make
>>large defenses of someone's work...
>
>And where have I done that?  I merely wish to draw attention to the 
>fact that the emperor's new clothes argument often fails to satisfy.
>
>
>>As for Mad vs. Spy, I'll still take Mad, but Spy is wonderful!
>
>Hmm.
>>					--Judex--
>
>cws
>

I own some of his artwork too, but I didn't know it existed until the 
article. As for the interviewer, I thought the first article was fine.
The more recent one was a waste of paper. 

Please also realize that I did not bring up the "Emperors New clothes",
but in the next line you were referrig to me. After all the earlier complaints
about attribution mistakes, this pops up. Who cares.

FT and FC are very different magazines, with very different purposes.
To each their own. But I find FT covers more of the stuff I watch, as 
opposed to endless re-examination of films I could care less about.
But FT has gone way downhill since Flynt bought them. I mean,
Macauley Culkin on the cover? What is this, Entertainment Weakly!

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (The Mantle Clinic)
Subject: Re: Heathers 
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:30:10 GMT

4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca  writes:

>     I just LOVED that movie and watched it again and again (OK only 3 times).
> My ONLY problem is the ending..... too bad the school didn't blow up 
> (JD LIVES!). Hollywood (and the popcorn eaters) probably wouldn't have wanted
> it anyways.
> 
I read an interview with Daniel Waters and he said that
originally he had written Heathers to end with the school
blowing up and JD and Veronica going to a prom in heaven.
--
                     A helpless victim of society...
                                Curt Tsui
                            curt@Virginia.EDU
From: upham@cs.ubc.ca (Derek Upham)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: HK: "An Autumn's Tale", "Days of Being Wild" (was Re: Woo's "The Killer" out on US video)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:52:33 -0800
Organization: Raven's Auto Body Repair Shop, Mega-Tokyo.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.cs.ubc.ca

Daniel Read <dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

["An Autumn's Tale"]
>This is about a Chinese immigrant in New York (Chow) and his rather
>tentative relationship with his cousin (Sylvia Chang) who is
>attending college in the U.S.  Low key and charming.

Actually, Chang has just flown in for college, and Chow (who has been
living in New York for a while) helps her get settled.  Chow has a solid
co-starring role.  I just wish I had seen a better copy of the film.

>DAYS OF BEING WILD is one of my favourite HK films.  Although there is a
>small amount of violence, its focus is on a young man (Leslie Cheung)
>who is unable to develop meaningful relationships because he was
>abandoned by his mother when he was a child.

In addition to Cheung and Andy Lau, "Days of Being Wild" stars Maggie
Cheung, Carina Lau, and Jacky Cheung---it's very much an ensenble
cast.  The film has an incredible atmosphere.  I'm going to have to
see it again, to have another look at Andy Lau's performance; I didn't
know enough to keep an eye on him when I saw the film in the theatre.

>The writer/director (Wong Ka Fai) made another film called (I
>believe) AS TEARS GO BY and, according to Variety, wrote SAVIOUR OF
>THE SOUL.

The Vancouver I.F.F. guide lists him as Wong Kar Fai for the latter.
I have a short review for "Saviour of the Soul" tucked away someplace.
Now if I can just find it...

Derek

-- 
Derek Lynn Upham                               University of British Columbia
upham@cs.ubc.ca                                   Computer Science Department
=============================================================================
"Ha!  Your Leaping Tiger Kung Fu is no match for my Frightened Piglet Style!"
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: Tsui Hark filmography?
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:44:32 GMT

Daniel Read <dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
 >Undoubtedly 1 & 2 are true. I would be surprised if Tsui (or anybody)
 >didn't take a "keen interest" in anything that bore his name.

What about Michael Caine?  Seen 'Jaws IV'? :-)

 >Nonetheless, I think people generally like Tsui Hark for being Ching Siu
 >Tung -- whose films (A CHINESE GHOST STORY, SWORDSMAN II) are apparently
 >the paradigmatic Tsui films.  Maybe I've seen the wrong Tsui Hark
 >(directed) films,  but his style seems very different than either
 >Ching's or Woo's.

I think so too.  I absolutely can't imagine TH or Woo directing any of the
CGS films.  TH's films seem to avoid themes of romance and betrayal, which
feature strongly in the films of Ching and Woo (respectively).  He tends
to treat human relationships much more lightly.

Actually, THE BUTTERFLY MURDERS, one of TH's earlier films, does seem
to be unusually serious;  but he seems to have grown out of it. :-)
A friend tells me that this was regarded as a fairly ground-breaking
film in Hongkong, but I can't specifically see why (unless it's the
slightly loopy story).

 >Incidentally, the fact that The Incredibly Strange Filmshow said
 >something doesn't mean anything to me.  I've seen lots of these films, I
 >think about them a lot, and I'm sure I have at least as great an ability
 >to make such evaluations as the program's researchers.

Well, their perspective, like yours and mine, is just that -
another perspective.  (Haven't seen it m'self.)


--
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: kaminl@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: bram stoker's dracula
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:32:10 GMT

Yes, it seemed like this film was leaning towards the romance in the story, 
but the characterizations were so shallow that I can't imagine giving one
darn about any of the characters. I liked the battle scenes in the
beginning... with the silhouettes.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: oddekalv@vxcrna.cern.ch (Oyvind H.Oddekalv, bld.16 1-021, phone 3708)
Subject: Roman Polanski
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:42:00 GMT

What are the movies made by Roman Polanski in the 80's? I know about 'Frantic',
'Pirates'(?) and the recent 'Bitter Moon'. Any others?

-Oyvind.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Any Good Vincent Price Movies ?
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:56:33 GMT

The Tingler,Dr phibes,The Raven, and much much more...
if i may ask your age cause not knowing vincent price kinda a dates a person.
not important tho. enjoy. 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: erobinette@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Need independent film titles
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:20:54 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

Hi, all.

I'm helping to select titles for a film series focusing on independent films
(i.e. films not made at a major studio) or films made with an independent
spirit (where the filmmakers buck tradition and the system). I'd like some
ideas. Please try to make your suggestions as unique as possible--in other
words, don't name a film that's widely available on video. We'd like to give
people a reason to come to our shows rather than stay at home and watch a tape.
Please use the REPLY command to answer, or e-mail me at:

erobinette@desire.wright.edu

Thanks in advance,
Eric Robinette
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: st902173@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: ?? about poltergeist
Reply-To: st902173@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:56:03 GMT

this is a silly topic but...
in a discussion with a friend the other day, poltergeist came
up for some reason, and i seem to remember that when originally
released, the movie carried and r rating, which was soon 
after changed to pg, or vice versa.
anyone know anything about this?
my memory could be completely wrong, and this has been bugging
me for a couple of days now, so...
russ fischer
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: fate@eskimo.com (Craig Stykel)
Subject: Re: Spirit of '76
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 10:16:07 GMT

mkjensen@iastate.edu (Martha K (Puester) Jensen) writes:
> A few months ago, I saw this great movie called the Spirit of '76, 
> starring David Cassidy among others.  It has people from the future
> coming back in a time machine to reclaim history, which was lost in
> a demagnitization event in the future.  They intended to go back to
> 1776, but ended up in 1976.  Disco was in full swing, and pinto jokes
> abound.  If you haven't seen it, you should.  My question is:  Where
can
> I find a copy?  I used to live in civilized so. California where they
> had culture like that, but I'm now stuck in Iowa, without big cult
film
> video stores.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance...
> Kat the lurker...    mkjensen@iastate.edu
> 
Your in luck..
I have a copy, directly recorded from laser disk...
If you want a copy let me know...
  fate@eskimo.celestial.com
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
From: dharris@hurricane.gatech.edu (Dave Harris)
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Summary: So THAT was what it was called...
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:59:46 GMT

In article <69675@cup.portal.com> Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:
>Then again I had a friend who was totally freaked out by the
>old Sci-Fi film Atomic Submarine. Anyone remember that one? Large
>UFO lands under the ocean, U.S. patrol sub goes to investigate,
>lodges itself int he UFO which turns out to be made of some kind
>of organic matter, and is populated by a huge cyclops alien... UFO
>is filled with narrow walkways that come and go in the darkness.
>Spooky stuff. :)
>
>Harv

  YES!  This is the movie that I still remember to this day.  Scared the crap
out of me and I can't even remember when I saw it.  All I remember is the
shot to the alien's eye, seeing it regenerate, and the crew fleeing down
catwalks, dodging death rays, and the last guy thru the slowly closing portal
looses a leg (?).  Also the submarine being squeezed as the alien heals.
Thanks for coming up with this movie, after following this thread, I was about
to ask the group if anyone could remember the title.  --Dave.H
From: rmr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Richard M. Romanowski)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: circle of iron
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:23:51 GMT
Organization: UB


	The best movie I have ever seen is _Circle_Of_Iron_, a martial
arts fantasy about Zen.  Does anyone know where I can find a copy?

Rick
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
From: crawford@boole.mitre.org (Randy Crawford)
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 06:20:14 GMT

In article <1duab7INN3e@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes:
>
>I suppose your answer to this question depends on your age.  What movies
>were playing when you were 8 or so?
>
>Personally, I was upset by the ending of "Old Yeller".

Yup.  I came late to this discussion, but here are my nominees:

The Wizard of Oz -- the witch threatens Dorothy and then her flying monkeys 
carry Dorothy off where she watches the sands in the hourglass count down
the moments before her death...

Pinocchio -- Pinocchio is kidnapped.

Dumbo -- Dumbo is taken from his mother.

And of course, Bambi -- the forest fire scene and the death of Bambi's mother.

-- 

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|                                                 7525 Colshire Dr., MS Z421
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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: Felipe_Soto@qms1.life.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Organization: School of Life Sciences
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:58:06 GMT

>Actually, it wasn't so much the movies at 8, but the movies at
>13, a much more confusing age, that affected me.  I mentioned
>earlier a couple of horror movies that scared me at 8 or 9, but
>at 13, I remember _Bonnie and Clyde_ giving me nightmares for
>weeks, and for some reason _Houdini_ with Tony Curtis really
>upset me--I still vividly remember having dreams of drowning
>after seeing the end of the movie where Houdini dies on stage
>when he can't break out of a giant glass tank filled with water.
>I didn't know til years later that he didn't really die this way.
>I had a fear of water until my early 20s; I just now, in composing
>this post, put 2 and 2 together.  Wow!  The power of movies!
>--Michael
>

II had a similar experience. When I was 8 or so I saw just the end of tthe
Houdini movie and couldn't sleep for a week or so. Two other mmovies had the
same effect on me when I was 7, but I don't know the ttitle of either of them.
One was about an invible alien from outer sspace. I just saw the scene whe he
takes off his space vest? (I ddon't know the proper term in english). After
that I could be alone aanywhere iin the house (even during the day) because I
thought that this thing was going to kill and I was defenseles because I
couldn't ssee him. The other movie was about a soldier that recieves large
aamouts of radioactivity and becomes a giant. I saw pieces of this mmovie
several ttimes (the last time when I was 10 or so) and every ttime it scared
the hell out of me.
II'm not sure this is  strictly tied to age because I had a similar eexperience
when I was 22-23. I saw a preview of Dracula's Dogs (I'm not sure this is the
title but it had to do with Dracula's Dogs, of course) and that night I had
horrible nightmares. After I saw the movie I slept like a baby. I think that
horror out of context is worse than than in context because your mind doesn't
know how to defend itself. It has no background, doesn't know the weakneses of,
and therfore doesn't know how, to destroy the monster. 

Any comments on this Idea?

Finally, of all the movies Ihave seen the most disturbing one was The Exorcist
(the first one of course). But this may be a very personal experience because I
was 13 and I'm the son of a Presbyterian Pastor that was growing up in the
church with its good things and the not so good intense fear of hell and the
devil.	

																																										Felipe N. Soto 
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