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RE:  Anatomy and Dr. Yip's cross sections:  Yes, they are being billed for
their contributions.  Yip has always paid.

RE:  Moving Tape Transfers a few days:  The only option for delay is to begin
your tape transfers on Wednesday the 16th.  BUT, it will take me at least a
full day (if not more) to prepare your time code numbers for the CMX editor.
That was going to be part of THIS week's job.  Of course, your ultimate
alternative is not to put the SOL pictures on until December, but there will
be no D2 machine at that time.  THat will be a one-inch transfer.  That
installation and use of the D2 for next week can't be moved because the D2
machine is scheduled to be elsewhere in the USA.  And all studio time is
taken by the other producers after next week's transfers.  Blah, blah, blah.

Ugh,
Pablo
From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: CD prices vary wildly
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:18:43 GMT
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
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Just because I've had a couple of requests via e-mail, I'll post the
information sources I used for my article on CD prices.  Feel free
to tell me of better places to look, because I would really like to
spend very little on the CD.

My sources of information are:

1. The TigerSoftware catalog; Volume 5, No 3, Midsummer 1992

  [side note here - TigerSoftware sells CD's in bundles (4 to 6 disks for
   $200), but the prices I mentioned are only the single prices]

2. Nuts & Volts Magazine; Volume 13, No. 8, August 1992

3. Computer Shopper, September 1992

4. Shopping in the store of Fry's Electronics in Sunnyvale


The companies I referenced are:

1. TigerSoftware
   24-hour FAX: 305) 529-2990
   800 Douglas Entrance
   Executive Tower, 7th FLoor
   Coral Gables, Florida 33134

2. Crazy Bob
   Order line: 800-776-5865
   ERM Electronic Liquidators
   37 Washinton
   St. Melrose, Mass  02176

3. The CD-ROM Source
   Phone: 317) 251-9833
   PO Box 20158
   Indianapolis, IN   46220

4. ROM-BO
   ORDER: 800-536-DISK
   1300 Mohawk Blvd
   Springfield, OR    97477

5. Profit Press
   Information: 602) 577-9696
   2956 N. Campbell Ave
   Tucson, AZ  85719

6. Frys Electronics
   Phone: 408)733-1770
   1177 Kern Ave
   Sunnyvale, CA   ?????

  (sorry, I go to the store for Frys, so I don't know the Zip)

Other places that have CD's that might have different prices include
various stores in the S.F. Bay Area such as "The Computer Attic",
"Egghead", "CompUSA", and "BizLand", but I heard that mail-order
was cheapest and I've tried locating various computer magazines that
might point to these "cheap" sources.  I'm beginning to wonder just
how much I'm being ripped-off when I decide to purchase a given
disk.

Mark Runyan
From: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Apple CDROM drive
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 05:12:53 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Distribution: alt
Reply-To: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

>Wait a minute, how much is big time, and how would that affect the 
>running of NT apps?  Specifically, has anyone done this successfully,
>and if so, how long did it take you?
>

Speaking personally, I messed with them for about 3 hours, and didn't get
much of it too work.  The problem is soley associated with not being
able to use the intillation program.  On another computer, that we were
able to use the install, it works great...wait till MS has more supported
drives(they told me the next beta would).

Joe

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: gregg@base.bellcore.com (Victor Scott Gregg)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM article.
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 18:21:47 GMT

In article <92252.192403BJH@psuvm.psu.edu>, <BJH@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> There's an excellent article in the latest issue of MacWorld on CD-ROMs.  It
|> even has an informative sidelight on the Kodak Photo CD.  While the article is
|> obviously written from a Macintosh perspective, many of the information would
|> be platform independent.  Enjoy!
|> 
|> Brian

-- 

I need to take exception with one point made in that article.
Specifically, they state that ONLY CD-ROM Drive that use a 
Sony Mechanism are Photo-CD compatible (single session only).

This is repeated in the table of summary information.

I am sure from what I have read that the NEC 74/84 series IS
Photo-CD capable.

Can anyone in the know confirm or refute the information in the 
MacWorld article?

Thanks,

Victor 

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: Re: Floptical drives of any i
Reply-To: ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:21:30 GMT

To: CDROM-L POSTINGS

>Having just encountered an advertisement of the "floptical" drive (a
read/write >magneto-optical drive that stores up to 21MB on media that
resembles 3.5" disks >[and the same drive can read/write normal high
density 3.5" disks]) ...

One small clarification, a floptical drive is not "magneto-optical"
technology in the classic sense.  The media is not optical media, but
magnetic floppy media which has its index/tracking information written with
a laser, which gives it the ability to write data at higher densities.

- Arnold Jones
 Micro Design International, Inc.
 arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: rayn@anasazi.com (Ray Niemeir)
Subject: Seeking CD-ROM storage and labeling ideas
Reply-To: rayn@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:04:39 GMT

I'm seeking advice on physical storage and labeling schemes
for a personal CD-ROM collection, which now stands at about 
25-30 disks, one drive, and 10 caddies.  It will probably grow
at the rate of one new CD every month or two for awhile.

In a "usual" day, several CD's get accessed for reference.
The original plan was to keep each frequently accessed title
in its own caddy, plus a few caddies for quick access to items
like the Delorme street atlas which will get used every few
days if it's handy.  This seems to work out OK except for having
to thumb through the stack of caddies and jewel boxes to find
the disc of interest.

I'd like to find a good way to label the edges of each jewel box
and (temporarily) label the edges of a caddy so that titles
can be picked out from a normal audio CD rack by looking at
the edges only.

Any good ideas for labeling or better schemes for storage?

Thanks

-- rayn@anasazi.com (602) 279-1533

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: sheth@cs.scarolina.edu (Vipul Arun Sheth)
Subject: Need cd-rom containing 4-year college guide.
Keywords: cd rom college 4
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:57:03 GMT

Hi:
I am looking for a cd-rom which can provide access to information on all
major U.S universities and colleges. This would be something similar to
Petersons guide etc.
Any pointers would be highly appreciated.
Please reply directly.


p.s also info on a complete catalog of published cd-roms would be very
helpful.

Thanks

-Vipul Sheth
From: tempir@Germany.Sun.COM (Uwe S.Obst - Temporaerer Mitarbeiter IR)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: SCSI SONY CD-ROM driver for DOS needed, ASAP. (ASPCDxxx.SYS?)
Keywords: scsi cdrom sony dos driver urgent
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:07:05 GMT

hi folx...

two weeks ago i bought a second hand cdrom (sony).
i connected it to my adaptec 1542b scsi controller, booted up
unix, linked a new cdrom driver (bundled with my unix) into the
kernel and now i'm able to mount and read HSFS/ISO filesys cds.

my next idea was to use the cdrom under DOS, too. not only for
reading data cds but also to play music cds while hacking around :)

i checked the documentation of win31 and had to learn that i've
to install a generic scsi driver (ASPI4DOS.SYS), a special cdrom
driver (ASPCDxxx.SYS - xxx=code for SONY) and the MSCD driver in
order to access the cdrom. unfortunately i've no ASPCDxxx.SYS
driver, 'cause i got the cdrom from someone using it with his
amiga :(

so, it would be a great help if i'd have the missing DOS driver
although i'm interested in a way to access the cdrom under unix,
too.
(accessing data-cds under unix is no problem, but i've no tool to
 play music-cds when working under X. i know of "xcdplayer". i've
 got the sources. but when i try to compile and link the program
 i get a lot of unresolved externals, like cdrom_gettrack,
 cdrom_playtrack, ... (looks like a missing lib?)
 it would be great, if someone could gimme some hints on this,
 too.)

well, i checked archie for the wanted cdrom driver but got no 
target. so, please could someone mail me the driver or at least
a pointer to where i can get it from...

thanx a lot in advance

uwe
--
Uwe S.Obst # @work:Uwe.Obst@Germany.Sun.COM # @home:Uwe.Obst@PHIger.Deg.Sub.ORG
"...and always remember that J. Random User is watching you, and will not be at
all impressed if you have to type control-shift-alt-hyper-super-meta-cokebottle
to exit the program, and it gurus if you type it wrong."        -- Leo L.Schwab
From: pjs@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Peter John Swiatkowski)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Multimedia Upgrade: Kudos and Complaint
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:32:31 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne



In article <5164@news.duke.edu> aflan@acpub.duke.edu (Alan M. Gallatin) writes:
>
>HOWEVER, there is one ANNYOING problem which I haven't figured out yet.
>Occasionally, and seemingly at random times, the SoundBlaster starts
>spitting out very loud static or other random noise to the attached
>speakers.  This sometimes happens even when the machine is idle and
>seemingly doing nothing.  When it occurs, I can still use my computer
>(although disconnecting the speakers makes usage more pleasent) and
>even play CD's or synthesized sound through the same speakers (although
>the sound is somewhat faint behind the massive static burst).  The
>only way I've found to clear up the static is in some cases to exit
>and restart Windows but more reliably to hit the reset button on
>my machine.  I've discovered NO patterns as to when this ocurs,
>except that it has only happened while in Win 3.1.
>
>While this problem has completely stumped me, I'm still hanging on to
>my gut feeling that it is software related in Windows and this won't
>stop me from recommending the product to anyone who asks.
>
>Post replies or (preferred) e-mail to alan@acpub.duke.edu.
>
>Thanks!!
>
>-- 
>Alan M. Gallatin <alan@acpub.duke.edu>
>Duke University School of Law; Durham NC

I had a problem similar to this with my own SBPro kit on a 386-40, only
worse. And it was unrelated to Windows 3.1.

More often than not the SBPro would be spitting out a stream of hash on
power up. Briefly turning the system power of and then on again usually
fixed it, while hitting reset would not. I find that loading one of the
resident SBPro prgrams (SBFMDRV I think) and unloading it immediately in
autoexec.bat would usually reset the problem at startup. When playing
digitised sound files it would also occasionally go into this 'hash' mode
and would require powering down to reset (it made playing the Wing Commander
2 game series a real pain). Playing music files in this system would, at
music's end, terminate with a brief but piercing bell like tone as well.

The only other 'major' problem I had with this system was that a Western
Digital WD7000FASST SCSI host adapter I wanted to use as a secondary hard
disk controller (Does anybody out there still use these?) refused to
function and would power up with the drive activity LED flickering maddly.

I've since changed motherboards (to another 386-40 because the money for
the 486 board slipped through my fingers) and all is well. Both the SBPro
and the SCSI card are now happy.

I can only put the problem down to something like 'noise' on the bus,
although I'd be glad to hear any other speculation.

Peter Swiatkowski
University of Melbourne
Victoria, AUSTRALIA
From: bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams)
Subject: Re: Jukebox for 1000 CDs mini
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:07:42 GMT

There is a carrosel that holds 240 and is controlled by RS-232 commands.
It has been out for two years and feeds a CD-player. It can be
viewed in countless 240 disk capacity professional Jukeboxes across the
country. I've seen two of them and read the brouchure once.

And the 240 disk unit is under $5,000 for quantity one purchases.
From: ag129@cl.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: CD-ROM article.
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:43:11 GMT
Reply-To: ag129@cl.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Organization: U of Cambridge Comp Lab, UK

In article <1992Sep12.172906.5971@ntg.com> mboom@ntg.com (Mike Boom) writes:
>Please indulge me in a novice question: what is a multisession CD drive,
>and how does it differ from a single session CD drive?

A CD has an "index" area which contains track details; this is what is
read when you first stick an audio CD into a player. I believe Photo-CDs
have a separate index area each time they are written (because it is 
impossible to "update" the index area). A multisession drive is one that
knows to look for multiple index areas. The full details are contained
in the Philips/Sony/Kodak "Orange Book" standard for writable CDs, which
is a licensed standard costing lots of money. Since I haven't read it,
there may be errors in what I've said, so correct me if I'm wrong!
From: brad@huey.Jpl.Nasa.GOV (Brad Hines)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: NEC vs. BusTEK
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:19:26 GMT
Reply-To: brad@huey.Jpl.Nasa.GOV
Organization: JPL Spatial Interferometry Group

In article <1992Sep15.151649.27605@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>, u7911050@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Saturn Paul) writes:

> Do I have to find a BusTEK 542B Driver for NEC CD-ROM Driver or 
> I may use Adeptec 1452B ? Where can I find them ?


Warning: Adaptec will charge you $60 or so for their CD-ROM
driver...

-- 
Brad Hines
Internet: brad@huey.jpl.nasa.gov
Jet Propulsion Lab, Pasadena, California
From: bwong@beach.csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Need cd-rom containing 4-year college guide.
Keywords: cd rom college 4
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:57:27 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

>Mr. CD ROM (these high-tech guys sure have funny names) lists The
>College Handbook, "Advice on selecting a school, the official
>College Board database of more than 2700 colleges, "The College
>Handbook", and more.  $ 129
>
>Mr. CD Rom
>PO Box 1087 
>Winter Garden, FL  34777
>800-444-mrcd
>407-877-3834  FAX

 CompUSA, Computer City, and others carry this title in-house at substantial
 discount (~$50). I have not used it, but considering the price of,
 and the size of,  the printed book, $50 is a bargain.
From: alan@acpub.duke.edu (Alan M. Gallatin)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Walnut Creek...
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:41:35 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>what i WOULD like to know, is what other CD-ROM's does Walnut Creek have to
>   offer? the woman on the phone was very helpful, but not especially
>   knowledgeable with respect to what the CD-ROM's actually contained.

Walnut Creek maintains an FTP site which should take care of your concerns.
FTP to cdrom.com and look around in the pub subdirectory.  There is
a file called 'catalog' which is a summary of all their CD's - In addition,
there is a fuller catalog available in postscript format.

Another neat part of their archives is the subdirectory cdrom (I think)
which contains the indexes for most of their CD's.

I don't remember all of the stuff that they have, but I do know that
they offer the Simtel MS-DOS archive, comp.sources and a few other FTP
sites.  Also, they have a disk which contains the electronic text of
documents entered as part of the Guttenberg (sp?) project.

I, myself, am also awaiting two of their discs...

Enjoy!!
-- 
Alan M. Gallatin <alan@acpub.duke.edu>
Duke University School of Law; Durham NC
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.windows.misc
From: chinc@ecf.toronto.edu (CHIN CHIEN TING)
Subject: Re: 1992 MS-BookShelf CD-ROM and Win 3.1 Problem
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:57:49 GMT

In article <jcmorris.716135206@mwunix> jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) writes:
>
>Are you sure that you've got the 1992 version of the disk and not
>the 1991 copy?  The symptom you cite is a known problem for the
>1991 edition which I've seen documented somewhere (and which I reported
>during the Windows 3.1 beta program).
>

I got Bookshelf for Win 1991, and Win 3.1 (and other things) in a package,
they work without a hicup (except "not ready" msgs once in a while). 
Bookshelf works with my original copy of Win 3.1 as well as the CDROM copy
of Win 3.1.

-- 
CHIN, Chien Ting 
Dept of Physics
University of Toronto                                  \ /
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: roberto@arrocha.charlotte.nc.us (Roberto Arrocha)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM article.
Keywords: Kodak Photo CD Sony CD-ROM
Reply-To: roberto@arrocha.charlotte.nc.us
Organization: Roberto E. Arrocha
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:35:33 GMT

Larry Mittag writes
| I just called Kodak the other day and got a list of the drives that
| are compatible. It is as follows:
| 
| 	Magnavox CDD461
| 	Sony CDU-6205
| 	     CDU-535
| 	NEC CDR-73
| 	    CDR-37
| 
| Larry Mittag

I was under the impression that all CD-ROM drives that could read Mode-2  
CDs would also be able to read multisession Photo CDs. I have a NeXT  
CD-ROM (SONY CD-ROM CDU-541) and was told that it is a Photo CD-capable  
CD-ROM drive. Can anybody confirm/deny this info?

Thanks.
-- 
Roberto
NeXTmail: roberto@arrocha.charlotte.nc.us
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: SSC92ISA01@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU ("David C. Garrett")
Subject: Art History graphic collection wanted
Reply-To: "David C. Garrett" <SSC92ISA01@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:26:22 GMT

Hi all,

I'm interested in studying art history.  CD-ROM seems to be the easiest, most
economical way to store and display lots of large graphics files.  I'm
interested in a collection of art history images from all major periods with a
software "browse" application, maybe a HyperCard stack or some such.  Anybody
know of such a collection?  Obviously I'd prefer Macintosh format (HyperCard
being a Mac program), but, as I haven't purchased a computer yet, and since this
will be the primary application, I could be persuaded to go with
IBM-compatible.

Can you recommend a good brand of CD-ROM drive to go for?

Please respond to ssc92isa01@rcnvms.rcn.mass.edu as I am not subscribed to the
list; I'll summarize if enough people express interest.

Tim, borrowing Dave's account.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.periphs.scsi
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Dual Adaptec 1542b and ASPI functions ?
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
	<=3mnxc=.seitz@netcom.com> <OTTO.92Sep9011304@tukki.jyu.fi>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:13:37 GMT

In article <OTTO.92Sep9011304@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
   Current setup: two 1542B's at I/O 330 and 334, eight Toshiba 3301B
   single-CD drives and two Pioneer DRD-600's.

Just one clarification: I have four Toshibas and one Pioneer per SCSI
bus.  I *am* aware of the limit of eight devices (controller plus seven
peripherials) per SCSI bus.  The Toshibas are on IDs 0,1,2,3 and the
Pioneer is on ID 6 (but I've tried different ID setups, doesn't seem to
make any difference there).

The problem shows up when I have more than seven Toshibas total connected.
Might it be that someone designing the software forgot that there may be
more than one SCSI card connected and there is a fixed-length array for
maximum seven drives in the driver ?
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: cm@nwu.edu (Chris Michael
Subject: OED
Originator: cm@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: cm@nwu.edu (Chris Michael)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:45:54 GMT

Does anyone know a good (ie cheap) place to get the Oxford English Dictionary
on CD?

Thanks.

Chris
-- 
christopher michael, associate director, academic computing & network services
           northwestern university, cm@nwu.edu, 708.491.4080
       "Please remember that your nearest exit may be behind you."
From: louis@arapaho.ucsc.edu (Louis Goldstein)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Floptical drives of any interest?
Date: 11 Sep 1992 18:19:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Reply-To: louis@arapaho.ucsc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu
Keywords: CD-ROM, disk, laptop

IMHO, the "floptical" drives are WAY overpriced.  When I was looking into 
removable media (couple months ago), floptical drives were over $600 and media
was about $20 (I think).

But you can buy a SyQuest 88M drive (internal, no adapter) for just under $400,
with media being just over $100.  This media has a 5 year guarantee as well as
19ms access time, which I feel makes it a MUCH better value than the floptical.

Also had a discussion with someone working with Bernelli (sp?) last week, they
are planning to release a 120M 3.5" form factor removable media drive by the
end of the year.  He said this drive was designed for laptops as well.  He
didn't have pricing info though.

Just my 2 cents!

Louis
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From: edo@tcad.ee.ufl.edu (Eduardo Osegueda)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.multimedia
Subject: FOR SALE: Lotus 123 for Windows (Release 1.1)
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:54:14 GMT
Reply-To: edo@tcad.ee.ufl.edu
Organization: UF EE Department

I have a brand new copy of Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows with Multimedia
SmartHelp for sale.  PRICE: $160.- (I pay C.O.D. shipping anywhere in the U.S.)
This is the same program included with the PAS-16 Multimedia Upgrade, and it
is still unopened (as I do not use spreadsheet programs).

System Requirements:

* 80386(SX/DX)- or 80486-based computer with a minimum clock speed of 16MHz
  (25MHz is recommended)

* VGA, 8514, or higher resolution graphics adapter/monitor

* A CD-ROM with minimum transfer rate of 150 K/sec

* Optionally a sound device supported by the Windows Multimedia Extensions
  (Captions can be used instead of sound)

* Speakers or headphones

* Mouse (recommended)

* DOS 3.3 or later

* Windows 3.0 witn MME, or Windows 3.1

* MSCDEX 2.2 for CD-ROM drive support

* A minimum 4MB of RAM

* A minimum 10MB of hard disk space (to install program/help files)


All of the documentation is stored in the CD-ROM disc (a coupon is included to 
order printed documentation).  The package also includes a registration card and
some other stuff.

The retail price of this program is $595.  Again, I am asking for $160
I will pay for UPS Second Day Air shipping (BLUE) anywhere in the continental
US.  Please e-mail if you're interested (edo@tcad.ee.ufl.edu)