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From: ruba@molbio.ethz.ch (Rudolf Baumann)
Subject: Re: CAP and Transcript software ???
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:52:55 GMT

peter@VIS.PSG.BHAM.AC.UK writes:


>        I am just in the process of setting up CAP on our suns, in order to
>be able to access our LaserWriter printers that are on appletalk. We have
>sun transcript software is it possible to use this with CAP ???

Yes, I just did it:
1. make a printcap entry for the new printer which corresponds to a
   Transcript printer. Change in if filter entry psif to atpsif and
   in the of filter entry psof to atpsof.
   eg.
   # PostScript printer driven by TranScript software
   # directly connected to Ethernet with Apple Ethertalk (CAP)
   # PostScript and TranScript are trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated
   ps2|lw2|laser2|postscript2|LaserWriter IIg:\
	:lp=/dev/null:sd=/usr/spool/laser2:\
	:lf=/var/adm/laser-log2:af=/var/adm/laser2.acct:\
	:mx#0:sf:sb:\
	:if=/usr/local/lib/ps/atpsif:\
	:of=/usr/local/lib/ps/atpsof:gf=/usr/local/lib/ps/psgf:\
	:nf=/usr/local/lib/ps/psnf:tf=/usr/local/lib/ps/pstf:\
	:rf=/usr/local/lib/ps/psrf:vf=/usr/local/lib/ps/psvf:\
	:cf=/usr/local/lib/ps/pscf:df=/usr/local/lib/ps/psdf:
   #

2. Go to Transcript home (normally /usr/local/lib/ps) and copy psif
   to atpsif and link (hard) atpsif to atpsof. Then edit atpsif with 
   the following changes:
   # diff psif atpsif
   29c29
   < PSCOMM=$PSLIBDIR/pscomm
   ---
   > PSCOMM=/usr/local/cap/papif
   70,71c70,71
   < 	psif) exec $comm ;;
   < 	psof) exec psbanner $pname ; exit 0 ;;
   ---
   > 	atpsif) exec $comm ;;
   > 	atpsof) exec psbanner $pname ; exit 0 ;;

That works for me
	Ruedi
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Rudolf E. Baumann                                    ruba@molbio.ethz.ch
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Rudolf E. Baumann                                    ruba@molbio.ethz.ch
Institut fuer Molekularbiologie & Biophysik          MOLEKULA@CZHETH5A.bitnet
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From: lefty@apple.com (David "Lefty" Schlesinger)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: AppleTalk 57.0.4 problems, where is NSI 1.2???
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:08:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: lefty.lefty-071092104501
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <67297@cup.portal.com>, MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan -
Somogyi) wrote:
> 
> tom@wcc.oz.au (Tom Evans) writes:
> 
> >According to "Inside Macintosh, Volume VI, Chapter 3", the Gestalt call
> >only returns ONE BYTE of AppleTalk version number, so there may be no
> >easy way for TattleTale (or anything else) to find out the "minor"
> >version numbers.
> 
> Inertia precludes me from looking this up in IM myself, but if I open
> GestaltDA, I see two selectors that return AT version information.
> 
> atlk returns the aforementioned byte, but atkv returns a long that looks
> suspiciously like vers information; the value returned is $39048000, which
> is vers-speak for 57.0.4 final 0.

Stephan is, of course, correct here.  The 'atlk' selector should be used to
determine whether AppleTalk is installed and active.  The 'atkv' selector
should be used, when AppleTalk _is_ active, to get the _overall_ AppleTalk
version number.

"Final 0", by the way, actually corresponds to "Release".  It's typically
preceded by a "Final 1", "Final 2", "Final 371" if we've been especially
bad, etc.

Versioning something with as many discrete pieces as AppleTalk has is sort
of a dicey game; we will, in many circumstances, modify a specific portion
of the stack (and reversion that particular piece) while maintaining the
same overall AppleTalk version.

A major AppleTalk revision, such as the transition from AppleTalk 56 to
AppleTalk 57 reflects significant changes in the capabilities of the
AppleTalk stack.  These kind of transitions are generally denoted by a
change in the minor version number of the Network Software Installer, in
this case from NSI 1.1 to NSI 1.2.

However, in between these major revisions, there are likely to be some
number of minor releases, e.g. NSI 1.2.1, NSI 1.2.3, to reflect changes to
the AppleTalk stack of a more local nature, usually bug fixes or
modifications to support new CPUs.

The version of AppleTalk in System 7.1 _is_ 57.0.4, same as on NSI 1.2.1,
with the sole exception of the LocalTalk resources.  These were modified as
described elsewhere by Steve Bollinger, and were versioned, as Conrad
noticed, 57.0.7.

Our alternative would have been to revise the overall version number to
57.0.7; I felt that this wouldn't be the most accurate reflection of
reality: if you're not running LocalTalk, it is _precisely_ AppleTalk
57.0.4.  If anyone has an opinion about an ideal way to handle this sort of
situation, I'd certainly be interested in hearing it.

--
David "Lefty" Schlesinger (lefty@apple.com)
Chief AppleTalk Bug Wrangler
Apple Computer, Inc.
From: mingione@acf3.NYU.EDU (Larry Mingione,WWH 311,212-998-3043,,)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: How to get ErrorCorrection going on LanRover/L
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:14:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acf3.41840006
Organization: New York University

I have a lanrover/l set up to use a US Robotics v.32bis modem.  The trouble is
that when I connect from home using a SupraV.32 and Remote Access I don't seem
to be able to get Data Compression or Error Checking to work.  I have the
Lanrover set up with the CCL that comes with it for the US Robotics v.32bis
modem.  But I simple get a straight 9600 connection.  A check of the US
Robotics ARA script seems to turn error checking off.  Any reason?  I just
downloaded the CCL from the Shive BBS board for my Supra (previously I was 
using one form Compuserve?).

I'd like to get DC and LAPM going if possible.


Anyway the LanRover/L seems to override the modems initial setup when it 
receives a connection.  Anyone had any similar experiences?

btw: we don't have an  ARA toolkit yet. One is coming tho.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From:  ZAITCEV@VADIK.srcc.msu.su
Subject: Technical questions about the unusual ApplTalk site
Reply-To: ZAITCEV@VADIK.srcc.msu.su
Organization: Research Computing Center, Moscow State University
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 19:30:27 +0300

 Dear Netters,

 I  need  some  suggestions  concerned  with  the  development  of  the
 AppleTalk clone.

 We have a several Macs, connected by the two LocalTalk  networks  into
 the AppleTalk network here. I work on the PC/AT under the experimental
 OS. This PC is connected with others by the ARCnet LAN. I  wrote  very
 little subset of the AppleTalk for the PC and driver for  the  ARCnet.
 My PC have the TOPS FlushCard installed.

 It's obvious that I want  to  interconnect  our  AppleTalks  into  the
 common internet. I see the two ways to do this. First, one can write a
 driver for the TOPS. Second, one can write the adev, which adds  "LAP"
 (over the asyncronous line).

 The question is: who can suggest me what and how to do? The  reference
 to the public domain TOPS driver source code will be most appresiated.
 The TOPS (of at least SCC) programming manual is more suitable, but it
 exists only on the paper, undoubtely. Anybody wants  to  pay  for  the
 surface mail ?  :-)  (The last is a joke).

 I have the interest also in the standards for  the  DDP  incapsulation
 over the ARCnet  (if  any) and  for the  Telnet-like services over the
 ADSP (if any).

           Best wishes,
           Pete A. Zaitcev


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: mmartin@dante.nmsu.edu (Marilyn Martin)
Subject: Phonenet TALK & Ethernet
Followup-To:  mmartin@nmsu.edu
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:18:51 GMT

One of our clients has a mongrol network with several Macs and 2 PCs running
Phonenet TALK connections. 

Question:

If they upgrade to 486sxs, can they run Phonenet TALK (off PC Appletalk cards)
and Ethertalk (off a separate ethernet card) simultaneously? Without problems-
network or user?

Thanks

 
Marilyn
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: rts@nwu.edu (Ted Schreiber)
Subject: MacTCP and ARA W/ Dynamic addressing
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:01:04 GMT

AArrgh!

I Can't seem to get MacTCP 1.1 to work with either dynamic or static
addressing over a 9600 or 14.4 ARA connection.   

I was able to do this using a 9600 shiva netmodem so I don't think it's
timing out on the dymaic side.

When I assign a valid static IP number and run something like eudora or
NCSA Telnet, the program initializes but can never connect and then hangs

The modem that I'm dialing into is a Supra FaxModem v.32bis hanging off my
Etherneted IIci at work.  Iv'e tried dialing in from a IIsi with an
identical SupraFax Modem and a Powerbook with a GlobalVillage Powerport
Gold ( V.S3bis)
No success with TCP/IP apps in either case - 

please email any help

Thanks
Ted Schreiber
Northwestern University
Tel 708.491.5386 Fax: 708.491.3915 Email rts@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: djh@cs.mu.OZ.AU (David Hornsby)
Subject: Re: A Remote Network Server for AppleTalk/Async AppleTalk 2.0
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:14:28 GMT

resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick) writes:
>1. What protocol is being used for IPRemote AppleTalk? Is it KIP, or
>some variation on KIP, AURP, or something totally new and different?

The latter. Both the IPRemote AppleTalk adev and the UNIX async program
use the same, somewhat simple-minded protocol to make a connection to the
server and then transfer data back and forth. IPTalk (KIP) won't work since
the source and destination can be on different networks. AURP addresses a
somewhat different aspect of AppleTalk over WANs.

>2. Can I use IPRemote AppleTalk over a MacTCP SLIP connection? You
>only mention "on an ethernet."

Short answer: yes. IPRemote AppleTalk uses MacTCP to send IP packets.
It doesn't know nor care what the lower layers look like - except that
it will object if you try and send appletalk packets over IP packets
over appletalk packets since that's not going to work at all well.

Whether you use IPRemote over a MacTCP SL/IP link to provide AppleTalk
services or MacTCP over Async AppleTalk to provide IP services depends
on which of IP and AppleTalk you are going to use most. The protocol
being carried loses due to the extra header overheads - particularly
for interactive purposes.

>3. Can this be used on the same machine running Phase II CAP?

Not at present, it's going to require changes to both ARNS and CAP to make
it work. The basic problem relates to each protocol stack seeing or not
seeing packets from the other on the same host interface. There will be
a combined release eventually that addresses this problem.

>Thanks again for all of your work on great software.

Thank-you kind sir.

 - David.
Xref: sparky comp.protocols.appletalk:3622 comp.sys.mac.comm:10047
From: weissh@nextadm.cc.vt.edu (Hugh Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: A Remote Network Server for AppleTalk/Async AppleTalk 2.0
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:59:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Virginia Tech Computing Center - Distributed Computing Group

In article <Bw3FJI.HIp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick) writes:

> 2. Can I use IPRemote AppleTalk over a MacTCP SLIP connection? You
> only mention "on an ethernet."

The userDoc says that IPRemoteAT should work over Ethernet, SLIP and
PPP.  I can get it to work great over Ethernet.  It's pretty amazing
to open an AppleShare volume on the other side the world from me.

However, I couldn't get it to work if I used SLIP instead of Ethernet.
Specifically I tried MacTCP 1.1.1 with MacSLIP 1.0 from Hyde Park 
Software.  (I tried it with MacTCP 1.1 also - no go.)

When I try to choose IPRemoteAT as my network connection using the
Network Control Panel version 2.3.2, it first warns me that changing
my AppleTalk (from EtherTalk) network will disrupt services.  If I
click OK, I next get a message from IPRemoteAT saying, "MacTCP is
currently configured to use IP over AppleTalk, use Ethernet/SLIP/PPP."

The SLIP icon is highlighted in the MacTCP setup window, SLIP connection
is up and I can do TCP/IP pings (using MPing), so I'm pretty sure that 
MacSLIP and MacTCP are configured properly.

Anybody see anything I might be doing wrong?

-Hugh Weiss
-Virginia Tech Computing Center - Distributed Computing Group
-weissh@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Help! CAP & Native Phase II ethernet
From: rawn@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Rawn Shah)
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:55:52 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group


    I have installed CAP 6.0 up to patch level 126 and tried running
it but I bump into a problem when running atis or any of the other
at-programs. We have a Sun 4/330 running SunOS 4.1.2 on Ethernet.
The program comes back with the problem:

localhost: RPC: Program not registered

A quick guess made me look in /etc/services for a UDP service named
"localhost" but now I'm beginning to think it just can't find the 
local host itself.


Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance


Rawn Shah
rawn@neurobio.arizona.edu


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If necessary:
#
# EtherTalk dynamic configuration data
#
# Last update:	Wed Oct  7 16:52:59 1992
#
# Generated by Native EtherTalk (Phase 2)
#
interface   	"le0"
netRangeStart	56.01
netRangeEnd 	56.09
thisNet     	56.01
thisNode    	67
thisZone    	"NEURO"
bridgeNet   	 0.00
bridgeNode  	0
bridgeIP    	127.0.0.1
nisNet      	56.01
nisNode     	67
asyncNet    	 0.00
asyncZone   	""
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Greg Ferguson <rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com>
Subject: Re: MacTCP with server allocated ip has HUGE delay
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6FAF8683401320C@godzilla.sps.mot.com>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 9 Oct 92 00:50:48 GMT
Organization: Motorola, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:47:07 GMT

Subject: MacTCP with server allocated ip has HUGE delay
From: Bruce Benson, bruce-b@cs.aukuni.ac.nz
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:26:07 GMT
In article <bruce-b-091092161543@130.216.34.254> Bruce Benson,
bruce-b@cs.aukuni.ac.nz writes:
>We are having trouble with MacTCP. When a TCP program, (Telnet 2.5) is
>started the program comes up part-way then hangs for sometimes upto 5
>minutes. When it comes back it goes fine. It usually only does this
after a
>cold start. Restarting the computer during the freeze and running Telnet
>again starts Telnet without the huge delays.
>
>I have tried one other TCP program, eudora, and the same happened.
>
>I watched the network traffic using Etherpeek and found that it was only
at
>the end of the huge delay that MacTCP sent out the RARP broadcast packets
>and they were answered in a few seconds.
>
>It is happening on a variety of machines, IIcx's, IIx's and IIsi's all
>running system 7 with the tuneup 1.1.1 and MacTCP 1.1
>
>Any help would be appreciated (especially by the grad students who use
>these machines). Thanks...
>
>---
>Bruce Benson.   	       	       	       	       ,_o ,__o
>Department of Computer Science. 	       	     _-\_\,\_<,
>University of Auckland. 	       	       	    (*)/'--/'(*)
>b_benson@cs.aukuni.ac.nz

First, cool signature graphic. I ride too. :-)

You don't say how many nodes are located behind the gateway (Gator or
FastPath?), but if you have a *lot* of machines then you're probably being
bitten by the time for the node to verify a unique network:node numbers
before
the gateway allocates the IP.

Just to test, try assigning a static IP to a node then reboot and see how
long
it takes to come up. If it's faster then I'd look into adding some more
gateways
or assigning some static addresses.

Many times when I use a dynamic IP with Telnet or tn3270 after first
booting up,
there is a long delay (but only about 30 seconds) before the connection is
established. I attribute this to the assigning process between the
gatorbox and
node, and the time to establish the path through the big routers to the
host.

Of course, this is all conjecture as I ate too much pizza last night and
didn't
sleep good. So, your mileage might vary. :-)

Regards,

Greg

gregf@shaman.sps.mot.com
rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com
=========================================================
"Never trust a computer you can't throw out a window."
    -- Steve Wozniak
=========================================================
From: mingione@acf3.NYU.EDU (Larry Mingione,WWH 311,212-998-3043,,)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: How to get ErrorCorrection going on a LanRover/L
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:17:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

I have a lanrover/l set up to use a US Robotics v.32bis modem.  The trouble is
that when I connect from home using a SupraV.32 and Remote Access I don't seem
to be able to get Data Compression or Error Checking to work.  I have the
Lanrover set up with the CCL that comes with it for the US Robotics v.32bis
modem.  But I simple get a straight 9600 connection.  A check of the US
Robotics ARA script seems to turn error checking off.  Any reason?  I just
downloaded the CCL from the Shive BBS board for my Supra (previously I was 
using one form Compuserve?).

I'd like to get a higher LAPM connection going if possible. Datacompression
also.


Anyway the LanRover/L seems to override the modems initial setup when it 
receives a connection.  Anyone had any similar experiences?

btw: we don't have an  ARA toolkit yet. One is coming tho.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: ruderman@phage.cshl.org (David Ruderman in Grace - CSHL)
Subject: Delete from AUFS (Q)
Keywords: CAP, AUFS, DELETE
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:24:53 GMT

I wish to delete files from an AUFS volume owned by root.

I am running CAP 6.0 Patch 1.25 on a SUN 4 running SUN OS 4.1.2.

A few months ago, I installed CAP.  I am providing a Public
folder, where users can find some read-only files and shareware.
This folder and all files within it are owned by ROOT.

If I mount this folder as root, I can write to it and change files
just fine.  If I try to delete from it, I get a message that
reads:

	You cannot move "config.tel" to the "trash", because it cannot
	be moved into itself.

Any advise (other than deleting from the UNIX end)?

-dave
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From: ttang@BNR.CA ("Tak  Tang", T.K.)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: request for list info-appletalk
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:49:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hi, 
  I would like to request for list info-appletalk.

Thank you very much,
Tak Tang
ttang@bnr.ca
From: melo@neb.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP can't print to TI microlasers
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:07:16 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


I'm running CAP 6.0 on a SUN IPX w/ SunOS 4.1. I have two TI microlaser
Turbo printers on Appletalk (behind a Fastpath5) plus a bunch of Apple LWs.
The SUNs can print to the LWs but not the TIs, but macs can print to either
type. Atlook on the SUNs can't stat the TIs. They are listed but the return
code is an error.
Has anyone had problems with TIs and CAP?


-thanks 
------------------------------------------------
Ruben Melo                Phone: 508-927-5054
New England Biolabs, Inc. Fax:   508-921-1350
32 Tozer Rd.
Beverly, MA 01915         Internet: melo@neb.com

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: duenki@isibee13 (Max Duenki)
Subject: Re: Need help w/CAP lwsrv
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:28:47 GMT

Hi,

Your printer detects the following error:

	%%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: setdefaulttimeouts ]%%
	%%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: setdefaulttimeouts ]%%

I think, your problem is not because of CAP, transcript or newsprint,
but because of a missing line 'serverdict begin 0 exitserver' in the
preamble (procset) of your postscript code. Following the original
postscript documentation of Adobe, the command 'setdefaulttimeouts',
that causes your problem, is priviledged and needs the explained code
section.

We had the same problem with an old Laserwriter IINT. With a newer one
(of same type) it worked. Apple may have changed some code in the
firmware, so that there exist slightly different versions. This seems
to be the reason, that Apple did not detect the error in the
LaserWriter-driver of the early versions of system 7. Despite the fact
that printing from Macintosh works on newer Apple Laserwriters, it is
an error, because Adobe claims that the command 'setdefaulttimeouts'
is protected. Other laserprinters or postscript emulators may do it
correctly, as in your case.

I guess, you have system 7.0 on your Macinstosh. Try the newest version or
write a filter that inserts the missing code.

Max

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Organisation: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich, ETHZ
Department:   Institute for Signal- and Information Processing, ISI
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