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From: probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst)
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:47:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.134728.25390@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.163725.2377@sfu.ca> probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst) writes:
>>
>>well, i can't say i've seen the stats that suggest what you say. also, i have
>>some difficulty conceptualising marriage (or any equivalent) as a job. let's
>>hear from women out there: do you think it's right to consider that the man
>>pays the woman a "salary"?
>
>Well here again is the issue of choice.  If after marriage a person choses
>to not contribute income to the household, that's a choice.  In my opinion
>it's a selfish lazy choice.  Nobody but a really insecure individual with lots
>of problems would chose to live off another person and expect the situation
>to work out well.
>
if two people come to some arrangement where one earns most of the money, and 
the other does 'everything else', is this a case of someone choosing to "live
off another person"? besides the fact that it seems difficult to live off even
one good income these days in such situations, is the person who is "not
working" such a parasite as you seem to be saying? i don't feel that you - or
anyone else - be prepared to give away half of everything to the first person
who shows up, but i'm uncomfortable with the implication that the person who
stops working for a wage, perhaps leaves a career, and undertakes all these
much-less-recignised responsibilities is somehow taking the easy way out.
-- 
Scott Probst: Brain and Behaviour Laboratory, Psychology dept, SFU
              Graduate Issues Officer, Simon Fraser Student Society.
e-mail: probst@fraser.sfu.ca - ph: (604) 291 3354/3181 - fax: (604) 291 5843
              "yes, well, and here we go again..." - Dr H. S. Thompson
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: Why Sex ?
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:40:11 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Aug7.033716.11322@nuscc.nus.sg> polsak@nuscc.nus.sg (Suzaina Abdul Kadir (Ms)) writes:

>The local paper ran this article yesterday and 
>since then I've been wondering where to post
>the query, but after lurking in soc.singles for
>sometime and seen how very 'sporting' everyone
>is, I've decided to post it here.

>The article discusses the issue that is continuing
>to baffle scientits everywhere since god know's
>when, and that is, why sex has been chosen as the
>mode of reproduction ? 

Actually, it doesn't baffle scientists any more.  It's quite simple.

Imagine a world full of asexual organisms that reproduce through
cloning.

Now one mutates to support sex as well.  As soon as he clones he's got
a sex partner.  Soon you have a population of identical clones that
have sex but it doesn't make any difference becasue they are all
identical.

Now some of them mutate in the normal course of events.  Mutations can
spread through this population and they can get put together even
though they originally occurred in different organisms.  The organisms
that have sex are evolving much more quickly.  Soon they out-compete
their brethren and just about everything has sex.

Even E-Coli have sex.

>Why not cloning since that way you can ensure
>that whatever is produced is near-perfect ???

That's why.

>So, why sex ? What would this world be like
>if sex wasn't the chosen mode of reproduction ???

I guess you're a virgin.  Let's just say "Not nearly as pleasant."

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: REQUEST from GIRLS:  List of 20 WORST/UNORIGINAL ways to ask a girl
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:47:02 GMT

In article <9208171956.AA18347@moe.optics.rochester.edu> ng@MOE.OPTICS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Baldwin Ng) writes:
>
>Well, JUST TO CLARIFY : I GOT NO BAD INTENTION WHEN I ASK A GIRL OUT
>                        SO, I AM NOT TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO HAVE SEX
>                        WITH FRESHMAN GIRLS, OKAY??

What's wrong with freshman girls?


-Nance
-- 
Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
                            (_) \(_)
From: fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:05:06 GMT
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>Yes, clearly.  So the question is: how do you do things intelligently
>without appearing to be intelligent?

Be quiet about it. Don't be showy about it. Don't talk about how hard
something was - people who know about it will know how hard it was, and
people who don't know about it will just think you're bragging.

Don't talk about technical stuff around people you know are *not* technical.
A lot of them would feel stupid and think you were a show off.

>>> relatively poor [6'3" tall, weigh 220 lbs. which is *not* muscle.
>>
>>If you wanted to, you *could* do something about that.
>
>Yes, I could.  It would take a great deal of time, a great deal of
>effort, and a great deal of money to do it right, i.e. without killing
>myself in the process.  My brother's into bodybuilding, so I've done
>some studying of the subject.

Depends on what you are trying to do. Do you want to improve your level of
fitness to something reasonable, or do you want to look like a greek god ?

	fred
-- 
Disclaimer: everything I write is my *personal* opinion and does not represent
or reflect the opinion of the company which employs me.
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: A (new?) twist on LJBF
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:02:49 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

jemenake@zeus.calpoly.edu (Joe Emenaker) writes:

>So, to me, the
>problem with LJBF is that it's kind of an unreasonable, if not selfish,
>thing to ask: that the OTHER person alter THEIR desires to conform to
>yours.

I don't see why it's selfish to *ask*. If you feel you can't be friends
with the person, you can say "No, I can't be friends with you, my feelings 
for you are romantic and being friends with you would cause me pain." LJBF
can be the start of a discussion about what sort of relationship (if any)
would be suitable for both of you.

By the way, being LJBF'd is not something that happens only to men. I have
more than once been the one who said (or *should* have said), "Look, I 
can't be friends with you the way you seem to want, because I have romantic
feelings for you and the fact that we're out of synch is hurting me."

--
Stef                 After many years of study, scientists have determined  
stef@apple.com       that dogs bark "just for the hell of it." -- Smithsonian
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean b
Reply-To: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Organization: I can't see any organization here...:-)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:48:06 GMT

In article <2985.1787.uupcb@spacebbs.com> mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)  writes:
>kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>
>KB>>Stef                 After many years of study, scientists have determined
>KB>>stef@apple.com       that dogs bark "just for the hell of it." -- Smithsoni
>
>KB>Hahahaha!  I knew it!  Stupid dogs...
>
>And why does Kevin Brown bark?

Because he won't get any answers if he doesn't?



-- 
				Kevin Brown

			    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com
			    kevin@taronga.taronga.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Keywords: Newsgroup?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:52:54 GMT

In article <14027@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <Bsw49q.G27@acsu.buffalo.edu> swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann) writes:
>|
>|Thanks, James.  Now I've spat coffee all over my monitor.  Thanks a bunch.
>|
>
>You think you've got problems.  I read his SENSITIVE words, tears starting
>welling up, I started crying uncontrollably, now it looks like I wet my
>pants, and I've got a staff meeting to go to in two minutes.  
>

 Dear Stephen and John,
 Yes staff infections are a very dangerous thang. That is why one
should always wash and tidy up after making avail of the public
fascility's. Fiber is also very good. Keeps ya regular.
 
In the political arena:
Well bush finally did it he dropped Quayle today.
 
He's chosen as a replacement,
Pee Wee. 
He has more exposure at handling himself in public. 
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Cooling things off...
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:54:30 GMT

In <1992Aug12.021802.21700@morrow.stanford.edu> finucane@camis.Stanford.EDU (Michael Finucane) writes:

>In article <ewillims.713039572@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>>  1)Why is it up to her to have to find him a girlfriend, may I ask?
>>       She has absolutely NO responsibility for him. 

>Emma! And I thought you were kind, sweet-hearted and tender!  

	Of course, I am when the situation warrants.


> Ethically, we're all of us responsible for everyone else, which is
>why if we see somebody drowning, we try to save them! 

>As she says, she doesn't want his suicide on her conscience for the
> rest of her life.  It's easy to SAY that it shouldn't be, but the simple
> fact is that it will be.  Otherwise she wouldn't be writing.

	Yes, Michael, that's a very laudable attitude but to be quite
honest it's an easy one to have from an objective point of view.
She did say that she felt threatened when she was with this guy, to the
extent that she cried on her fiance's shoulder one night after being
with the guy earlier to help him move house.
All animals including humans, have inbuilt danger sensors and it's quite
evident that hers were screaming at her. If there is any physical
danger inherent in being in someone else's company, then don't you 
think it wiser to eliminate all chance of being hurt by removing
their sphere of influence from your life?
	I was attacked 2 years ago and had two ribs fractured and various
cuts and bruises and , although they were strangers, I still think that
a woman (or man for that matter) should never put herself in a position
of danger. (I hasten to add that this happened to me in a supposedly 
"good" area of town and not through any stupidity on my part.)
I count myself as very fortunate that I didn't suffer anything worse.
They didn't even try to rob my purse...
 

> when he's onto a loser, and move on. I am new in town here, and am to some
> extent dependent on people helping me to find my feet.  Similarly when I was
> doing my B.Sc. in Dublin, I was dragged out of my shell by people who I am
> eternally indebted to.  I used to be one of those first year students you
> see eating by themselves in the Cafeteria.   So now when I see anybody 
>in emotional difficulty/isolation, I try to pull them out, remembering what 
>it was like.  It's a very nice feeling seeing them growing. So if she can 
>pull him out of this without getting sucked in too deeply, 
>she might be richly rewarded.  Yes, it is dangerous. 

	Yes, it is rewarding to help people but I think this case is 
different. As you say, it is dangerous.
(Were you a Buttery or Pav person?:)


    ____________________________________________________________________
    |   Emma Williams            | Dad, I guess you're wondering why   |
    |   ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie    | I'm ringing you..--Calvin & Hobbes  |
    |				 | (eller Steen og Stoffer :-> )       |
    |____________________________|_____________________________________|
From: kgorman@star-trek.bbn.com (Karen Gorman)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Keywords: Boink, party, falming, clam chowdha, Beantown...
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:03:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.l8ih3pINNrip
Reply-To: kgorman@BBN.COM (Karen Gorman)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: archive.bbn.com

In article <3696@cvbnetPrime.COM> bmeyer@feds12.UUCP (Bob Meyer) writes:
>
>   ...Perhaps, something is being overlooked here. You don't usually find 
> romantic partners by looking for romantic partners. You find romantic partners
> by looking for friends, of both sexes, all sizes, any race, any age, any 
> sexual orientation, any occupation, single, married, people that have kids,
> people that have dogs, anyone who's fun to be with and shares similar interests
> (or disimilar interests, try something new!).
> Collect friends, trade 'em with your other friends! 
>
>    You find romantic partners by cultivating a full, active and varied social
> life, by being the "third wheel" with a friendly couple, by going to parties
> where you only know one other person, by going to eat with a same sex friend,
> by persuing a hobby, joining a club, taking a class, getting involved in a
> community cause, going for a walk. Not by doing one of these things, by doing 
> all of them!


Yo Bob, man of my dreams, where have you been all my life?  I can tell you
have ONE thing on your mind, and that one thing is the "Boston Baby Boink"!

So all Beantown lurkers and lurkettes give Bob a reason to organize (I'll
help you with this) party/net.get.together/BostonBabyBoink!!

Send a message off to Bob stating you would like to a be part of the
BostonBabyBoink and any special requests/dates you might have.  It will really
make Bob's day, and it will be fun too!!



Karen
kg@bbn.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: purp@wixer.cactus.org (Jim Meyer)
Subject: Re: Windows, Bananas, and Boinks - Oh My! 
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 06:33:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.223959.20880@newstand.syr.edu> haroome@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allisson Roome) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.170031.13795@wixer.cactus.org> purp@wixer.cactus.org 
>(Jim Meyer) writes:
>> Anyone for a slideshow?
>Hmm, maybe I should just have them turned into a video ....

Could be a top ten title...

>>You are. Yo, Allisson! Do you do windows?
>>
>Yes, OS/2, MS-Dos, UNIX .... need I add more. Really, You think you could 
>provide a better not-straight line than that.

I considered capping the W, but without straight lines, how do you tell
the straights from the bents? ;)

--Purp, with a tired gleam in his eye.
-- 
+---------------+------------------------------+-----------------------+
| Jim Meyer     | If I express an opinion, you | purp@wixer.cactus.org |
| Austin, Tejas | can bet no one else agrees.  | aka jimpurp@pro-lep   |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: single men
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 02:20:38 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez
Distribution: usa
Keywords: glock kill them till you drop

In article <hc8mh7c.greg@netcom.com> greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
>In article <2220@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com> luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:
>>
>>Why men can't dance with men in america without some stigma attached to it .
>
>Because they're not Morris dancers.
>There is an official dispensation for Morris dancers.

What about square, contra, Scottish, clogging -- in fact, just about
every type of folk dancing?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

"I 'got a life'.  Now what?"
From: mlb@cisco.com (Marcia Bednarcyk)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:08:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.070509.18027@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
|> (I get the impression that many
|> people here hardly ever even go to parties, for example).

What? You want us to go to *parties*? Where the ratios are always terrible,
and without a good ratio there's NO WAY we'll ever meet anyone, and the people 
are always drunk and I don't drink, and all the women are just looking for men
who dress well and have money falling out of their pockets, and all the guys
are just looking for girls who are tall, thin, beautiful, and have large
breasts? Where we might have to talk to people in person, and make an effort
to be polite and interesting, instead of just being "ourselves"? That's 
SOOOO artificial!

Add :-) :-) :-) and :-) liberally. Serve with tongue in cheek.

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Marcia Bednarcyk                                        ADDRESS: mlb@cisco.com
"Sweaty Snugglebunnies."
"... the meaning of life is to be happy, try not to hurt people, and hope
you fall in love."
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Keywords: commitment,marriage,reluctance,bicycles
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:36:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

I say:
>>Maybe the women's magazines true, but most feminist literature *I've*
>>run across contains things like "if it has tires or testicles you're
>>going to have trouble with it" or "imagine a world without men - no
>>wars and lots of fat, happy women" or "a woman without a bicycle is
>>like a man without a fish" (or something like that.)  :-)
 
And then Charles once again perplexes us all with:
>Hmmm..., I wonder if that's _this_ bicycle?  ;->
>                                |
>                               \|/
>                                v
>>Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
>>att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
>>                            (_) \(_)                           

Well not that I have even the slightest idea (did anyone get that?) what
point you were trying to make here Charles, but yes I indeed have not
one but several bicycles (depending on what terrain and where) and the
man in my life has an aquarium with tropical fish.

So I'm complete.  Are we OK?

-Nance
-- 
Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
                            (_) \(_)                           
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans)
Subject: The myriad uses of hot tubs (was: Re: FINNS - Nice description, Juha!)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:28:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.214849.2981@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>  (One problem, though, is 
>that sometimes one partner may get overheated and need to cool off;
>this is best accomplished by the hotter partner sitting on the edge 
>of the hot tub while the other partner remains within and sees what
>can be done with the first partner's anatomical areas that are still
>in range.)
>
>Trygve 


This is your solution for overheating!!  Doesn't sound very, um,
effective to me.

Piglet 

P.S.  Does anyone have a solution for those dried apricots that turn
out to be hard little rocks when you open the bag??  Can anyone point
me towards a better class of dried apricots!?!  (Donations cheerfully
accepted...all in the name of science, of course.)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: Las Vegas
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:54:40 GMT
Organization:  Boogie Rats on Speed

In article <1992Aug21.213353.1705@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>
>Anyone else getting what appears to be an email form letter come-on that
>starts something like, I read one of your posts and thought it was
>interesting....  ?  Just curious.

I did! Wonder if he is interested or just on the make...?
Things that make ya go Hmmmmm.....

>Max

    Tyger

-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break
From: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:48:48 GMT
Organization: I can't see any in the immediate vicinity...

In article <16mgp0INNl9v@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes:
>1) It's not possible to intentionally 'get a girlfriend' everywhere you go,
>
>but
>
>2) If you even want a chance, you have to work assiduously at being
>generally social nonetheless.
>
>If you're a man you have to Don't Let Anyone Know You're Trying #1 but
>Do # 2 All The Time.

This is another excellent example of something that appeals to my sense
of Universal Perversity.  I suspect it's dead-on correct.

Guess this is sort of what everyone has been trying to say, but nobody
has said it in a way that makes *sense* to me.  This does.

Thanks.

As I read this newsgroup and participate in it, I get an increasing sense
of the importance of acting.

Do you think acting is an important enough skill that it would be worth
going to acting school?

>-Matt Kennel  		mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu


-- 
				Kevin Brown

			    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com
			    kevin@taronga.taronga.com
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: 'E' Tickets
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:48:41 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

Hmmmm....I'm old enough to remember *using* E tix, but not old enough to
remember using it in an expression.  What does that make me?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

"I 'got a life'.  Now what?"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Marcia needs some johnson love, huh?
Keywords: NOT!
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:17:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.183243.1434@lub001.lamar.edu>
lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu writes:
>In article <9208130108.AA29117@regal.cisco.com>, mlb@cisco.com (Marcia Bednarcyk) writes:

>Whatsa good ratio?

1 to 1 usually; sometimes I'm feeling kinky.

>More than a mouthful is a waste!

You have no imagination.

>> Add :-) :-) :-) and :-) liberally. Serve with tongue in cheek.
>
>How 'bout tongue in ear (

Which is better depends on whose cheek (and which one).

>"... the meaning of life is t find a nice gal, who will take care of you,
>owns a liquor store, doesn't get as drunk as you and loves to give lip service!
>Now that makes me happy!"

I'm so glad you're happy.  Now maybe you'll stop posting.

>Oh Marcia, what *ARE* we gonna do wit you (

I strongly suspect that in your case, *NOTHING*.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sfroelic@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephan E Froelich)
Subject: NEED CONTACTS IN CORPUS CRISTI,TX
Summary: Moving where I'll be a stranger.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 01:58:11 GMT

    I'm moving to Corpu Cristi, Tx and won't know a soul there.
     It's partly why I'm doing it, the challenge and all.
          If I could talk to someone there before I go...
             I need to know things to do there
               companies to look for work at,
                 how to get a usenet or any
                  net account (I'll miss
                    it otherwise)....
                      PLEASE HELP
                       .Stefan
Newsgroups: soc.singles