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From: 832989@SKUL.USASK.CA (Glenn Chin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: CFL Week 7
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:28:16 GMT

CFL rosters in newsgroup rec.sport.football.misc.

Eastern Division	  W	  L	Home	Away	 F	 A

Ottawa Rough Riders	  4	  3	4-1	0-2	186	158
Winnipeg Blue Bombers	  4	  3	3-0	1-3	200	179
Hamilton Tiger-Cats	  4	  3	2-2	2-1	208	199
Toronto Argonauts	  2	  5	2-1	0-4	224	217

Western Division

Edmonton Eskimos	  6	  1	3-0	3-1	231	191
Calgary Stampeders	  5	  2	3-0	2-2	219	178
Saskatchewan Roughriders  3	  4	2-1	1-3	189	213
British Columbia Lions	  0	  7	0-4	0-3	171	293

Average number of points scored per game:  58.1.

Nov 29	80th Grey Cup at SkyDome in Toronto.  Tickets: (416) 872-5000.


REGULAR SEASON SCHEDULE
					EDT
WEEK 8
Aug 26	Ottawa at Toronto		 7:00pm
Aug 27	Hamilton at Winnipeg		 9:00pm CBC
	Calgary at Edmonton		 9:30pm TSN
Aug 29	British Columbia at Saskatchewan 9:30pm CBC

WEEK 7
Aug 19	Winnipeg 20 at Hamilton 21
Aug 20	Saskatchewan 9 at Ottawa 20
	Toronto 16 at Edmonton 39
Aug 21	British Columbia 23 at Calgary 44
						Players of the week
WEEK 6
Aug 12	Edmonton 30 at Hamilton 28
Aug 13	Calgary 11 at Ottawa 32			D-Ottawa DB Anthony Drawhorn
	Toronto 17 at Winnipeg 32
     Saskatchewan 46 at British Columbia 43(OT)	O-Saskatchewan QB Kent Austin
						L-Saskatchewan DT Jearld Baylis
WEEK 5
Aug 6	Winnipeg 6 at Toronto 32
	Ottawa 14 at Edmonton 29		D-Edmonton LB Larry Wruck
	Hamilton 27 at British Columbia 25	O-B.C. QB Tony Kimbrough
Aug 7	Calgary 21 at Saskatchewan 30		L-Saskatchewan DT Jearld Baylis

WEEK 4
July 30	Saskatchewan 24 at Hamilton 38
	Edmonton 30 at Ottawa 25		D-Edmonton LB Willie Pless
	British Columbia 15 at Winnipeg 41	O-Winnipeg QB Matt Dunigan
	Toronto 26 at Calgary 28		L-Calgary DE Tim Cofield

WEEK 3
July 22	Edmonton 32 at Winnipeg 51		O-Edmonton SB Chris Armstrong
July 23	Hamilton 39 at Toronto 30		D-Hamilton CB Terry Wright
	Calgary 37 at British Columbia 19
July 24	Ottawa 13 at Saskatchewan 23		L-Saskatchewan DE Bobby Jurasin

WEEK 2
July 15	Saskatchewan 31 at Edmonton 34 (OT)	D-Edmonton LB Willie Pless
July 16	British Columbia 20 at Toronto 61	O-Toronto QB Rickey Foggie
	Winnipeg 14 at Ottawa 29		L-Ottawa DE Gregg Stumon
	Hamilton 22 at Calgary 34

WEEK 1
July 8	Calgary 44 at Saskatchewan 26		L-Calgary OT Ken Moore
July 9	Toronto 42 at Ottawa 53 (OT)		O-Ottawa QB Tom Burgess
	Winnipeg 36 at Hamilton 33 (OT)		D-Ottawa LB Angelo Snipes
	Edmonton 37 at British Columbia 26
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: wskelly@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (William Skelly)
Subject: Re: Insulting beer ads, etc.
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:38:55 GMT

Since we are on to a "real" topic of great social relavance
again...another meaningful 2cents.

1. I'd like to 2nd the motion of a Labatts and Molson boycott.
   But, I can't.  Its almost Darwinian that psuedo-beer drinkers
   will swill whats available, and thus their evolutionary 
   climb up the beer sophistocation ladder will be haphazard at
   best.  This is a competetive advantage for the real beer
   lovers though because it keeps micro-breweries from getting
   bigger and thus going the swill route.  It also keeps the
   home brew prices down, because there does not appear to be
   huge queques outside the local supply place. whew.

2. We have the same situation in Australia at the moment. 
   Although the adv. sophisotocation is a couple years behind.
   Fosters and Tooheys are basically the same swill by and
   large with Tooheys recently coming out with "Blue", and
   "Tooheys Dry". Gee guess which companys are financially
   connected!

3. Cloudy is good.  The best (easily obtainable) brew in Oz
   IMHO is a South Australian Beer called Coopers.  This 
   massed produced beer (wo. preservatives) easily beats
   anything as widely distributed in Canada or the US.
   As they say, "Cloudy just like the Murray-River, um,
   um, good."  I've never seen a Coopers commercial in
   my 2+ years in Oz.  Gee, does this mean people actually
   buy it cause its good?

4. Almost off topic.  I know there are plenty of good micro-
   breweries around these days, but a particularly good one
   is in Boulder, Colorado (under the shadow of the massive
   Coors plant in Golden Colorado) called the Wallnut 
   Brewery.  Highly recommended, if you are in the neighbour
   hood.

o.k. this was 4 cents...:-( force a blue on me, ya go ahead
gag me...

cheers,
chris
Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:6025 soc.culture.usa:6796
From: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Alaska to join Canada (was Any more new countries due? ALASKA)
Date: 23 Aug 92 15:17:08 GMT
Reply-To: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.
Line: 20

fsdhp@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

>*********************************************
>*************** A L A S K A ! ***************
>*********************************************
>(INDEPENDENCE PARTY HOLDS GOVERNORS SPOT, AIP CANDIDATES AT BOROUGH AND STATE
> LEVELS)

Do you mean an Independent Party (ie not alligned to the Democrats or 
Republicans) or an Independence Party?  If they are for independence are
they planning to hold a referendum on whether to leave the USA?

I've seen a few articles discussing the breakup of Canada and bits joining
the USA, does your message on Canada mean we might soon hear of a bit of 
the US trying to join Canada???

  On the subject of Alaska, it is a huge state.  While it was still a 
territory was there any attempt to divide it into 2 or more new 
territories, just as was done in the last century in the "Wild West".
Or was this not done because if the coastal strip of Alaska had been
made into a separate territory you would have finished up with a 
native majority in the remaining area?  

  Or put another way, was the territory of Alaska admitted to the Union 
as a single state to prevent Inuits and Indians gaining a majority in
a part of the US, hence eventually their own state?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
From: gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch)
Subject: Re: Does Canada Have Free Speech? (Re: NorthAmerican Free Trade Agreement.)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:00:30 GMT
Organization: mydog in exile

gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:
| >What I said was that Canada did not have free speech in the
| >sense that the United States does.  That proposition does not
| >seem to have been refuted.  Whether it is a good thing or a
| >bad thing, or whether there are exonerating circumstances, is
| >a somewhat different matter.  
| >
| >I have changed the subject line to split off this thread if
| >someone would like to discuss it further; it was parenthetical
| >to my NAFTA article, and I am sorry to see that it drew more
| >interest.  Canada's lack of a freedom is Canada's problem,
| >whereas the NAFTA is everybody's problem.

feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld) writes:
| If I tell you what I think of the poster of that message, will I face
| judgement according to US law, or Canadian?

Why don't you think something about the message, first?
Evaluating a whole human being is a big order.
-- 
 )*(    Gordon Fitch    )*(    gcf@panix.com    )*(
( 1238 Blg. Grn. Sta.,  NY NY 10274 * 718.273.5556 )
From: "stephanie fysh" <stephanie.fysh@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: canadian autonomy
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:30:39 EST
Reply-To: "stephanie fysh" <stephanie.fysh@canrem.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

[most of article deleted]
Murray Altheim writes:
MA>Why do think Canada has evolved so many socialized programs?
MA>In order to compete with American businesses, subsidies are necessary
in MA>order to actually keep Canadian organizations functioning in
competition MA>with the order-of-magnitude larger US firms.

Many, perhaps most, of these programmes came from the platform of the
New Democratic Party and, previous to that, the CCF.  And you can be
sure that they had the actual welfare of the people of Canada in mind,
not business competition.


- Stephanie.
---
  SLMR 2.1a  This is abuse, arguments are down the hall.
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:5725 can.general:3971 tor.general:1086
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general,tor.general,mis.legal
Subject: Re: Video : don't show me...
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 09:06:17 PDT
Distribution: can
Organization: Mid Island Ham Network
Keywords: video droits loi rights law authorization autorisation

beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:

> Last Sunday, I was filmed on video tape by a professional production
> team from Toronto.  I made no scene specifically for them, but
> they filmed while I was photographied by other persons.  
> I knew I was filmed.  In these scenes, I was wearing old (17th
> century) costume.
>  
> The person that organised the filming caused me an important financial 
> prejudice (harm?), a lost of money that I learned after the filming.
> I thought to write to forbid use of any picture where I was,
> unless she compensate the financial lost.
>  
> Can I do that?  Is there any law or any reference (review article,
> book?) about that?  Shall I use a lawyer absolutely?  Which Toronto
> based production company would be interrested in this kind of
> movie : a family party of 1500 persons but where the celebrated person
> (the first Beauregard in our case) is not a famous person.
>  
> I think somewhat posted an article about something like that some
> time ago (filming without written authorization).
>  

Denis, it might help to answer this if you told us how you were harmed 
financially. Also, where were you while you were being filmed? If you 
were in a public place, I doubt very much if you could succeed in any 
legal action, although that would depend on what use they made of the 
film.


emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca (Robert Smits Ladysmith BC)
From: thood@corvus.matrox.com (Thomas Hood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: GAZETTE: THE WORLD 'REMARKS' OUR FRENCH-INFLUENCED ENGLISH
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:04:09 GMT
Organization: Matrox Ltd.

clamen@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) writes:

>Unlike French, English has no standards.  English dictionaries (like
>the OED) document usage, they do not enforce it.

The standards are set by tradition, expressive power, and logic;
they distinguish English from drivel, articulateness from 
inarticulateness.

No God of English establishes usage for all time, but you and I
can make judgements today.  Saying "demand" when you mean "ask"
is harmful, as you say, because it causes confusion.  Furthermore, it
is a totally useless innovation.  Therefore, it is incorrect,
in the sense, "inaccurate, faulty, wrong, improper, unbecoming."

You are right about English dictionaries: most of them are too wimpy
to defend good English.

--
Thomas Hood                                                    thood@matrox.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: marky@engin.umich.edu (Mark Anthony Young)
Subject: Re: 1776 invasion of Canada by USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:36:59 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:
>This week-end, I walked in front of Maison Ramezay in Vieux-Montreal.
>There was a panel with previous inhabitants since its building
>(in 1705 ?).  In 1775-1776, it was the american army which was occupying
>Canada according to the panel.  At that time, Canada included Quebec and
>(yet almost unsettled) Ontario (Maritimes were independent colonies).
>
>Since there were many posting saying that Americans
>never invaded Canada (1812 was an attempt), what actually happened in 1775-1776?
>Is the panel wrong?
>
The panel is probably right.  The Americans invaded Canada in 1775 expecting
the Canadiens to rise up against the British (who had conquered them only 15
years earlier).  They captured Montreal and sent an army (under Benedict
Arnold) to capture Quebec.

But the Canadiens did not rebel.  The attack against Quebec failed, and the
Americans were driven out the next spring.

The Declaration of Independence cited George III for "abolishing the free
System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province" (that is, allowing 
Quebec to keep its Civil Code and Catholics to serve in its gov't).

The Articles of Confederation issued an open invitation for Canada to join
the Union, but nothing came of it.

...mark young
Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:5772 can.general:4005 tor.general:1105 misc.legal:16043
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general,tor.general,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Video : don't show me...
Keywords: video droits loi rights law authorization autorisation
Date: 15 Aug 92 15:20:58 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <79cgPB3w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca> emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
>
>Denis, it might help to answer this if you told us how you were harmed 
>financially. Also, where were you while you were being filmed? If you 
>were in a public place, I doubt very much if you could succeed in any 
>legal action, although that would depend on what use they made of the 
>film.
>
>
>emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca (Robert Smits Ladysmith BC)

I was in a public place.  I was only informed 2 or 3 days before the
event.  I was filmed when acting for the 1500 person present, and when
photographied by many families, but made never scene only for the
video team.

What is a model release?  I heard about people appearing by accident in a
movie that the producer had to find to identify and have a signature.
I was told that I can't do anything if it is for a news program.  But,
I can succeed if for a documentary or public release of the film.

As for the financial harm, it is not related to the video.  It was caused
because the person involved with the video opposed I sell my book with
the official souvenirs.  I spent hours to prepare that day, I prepared it
for one year, I gave 2 hours that day for an acting (including the
preparation and the photos for the attendants), my salesperson was almost
alone to distribute the dinner (she was not supposed to be there, but no
volunteer ever shown and of the 4 committee members that did the least,
everybody was absent, probably dining and ignoring their duty).  Anyway,
in the circunstances, the committee shall have accepted that my books
were sold with the souvenir and if this occured, I would have sold
a lot more (probably a few hundreds more).  

My impression at this moment is I was victim of my generosity.  I gave too
much but the people to who I gave the more (the 1500 attendees) are not
informed of all the shit I get for my involvment.   And a few lazy
opportunists are hurting me personnaly and may prepare to attack my
reputation.

-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Barthelemy Jarret (1471) -> Andre Jarret, sieur de Beauregard (1665)
\_.-===   -> Denis Beauregard (1992)                  Opinions ? Et pis non !
From: sandilands@hg.uleth.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Text of a Song
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:01:51 GMT
Reply-To: sandilands@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge

In article <714040519.0@krypta.fidonet.org>, Alexandros.Gougousoudis@f41.n2403.z2.fidonet.org (Alexandros Gougousoudis) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I am searching for a text to the SOng: 'Farewell to Nova Scotia', it is
>an folk song, can anyone help me?
>Am I right, that Nova Scotia is a State of Canada?
>
>Greetings from Berlin

Here's the chorus; sorry that's all I and my partner can come up with:

Farewell to Nova Scotia, your seabound coast,
Let your mountains dark and dreary be.
For when I am far away, on the briny oceans tossed,
Will you ever heave a sigh or a wish for me.

The best know version was Catherin MacKinnon, whose husband is Don Herron,
better known as Charlie Farqueson

Nova Scotia is a PROVINCE of Canada.  It was one of the first four to enter
confederation (along with New Brunswick, Quebec and Ontario).
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:6021 can.politics:6145
From: clamen@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
Subject: Re: We are all foreigners, save the NATIVE Aboriginal Canadians!!
Date: 23 Aug 92 07:39:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BtFELM.Myu.1
	<1992Aug19.195714.5565@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> <Bt9Awo.5Fn.1@cs.cmu.edu>
	<1992Aug21.144420.7256@thinkage.on.ca>
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <1992Aug21.144420.7256@thinkage.on.ca> dat@thinkage.on.ca (David Adrien Tanguay) writes:

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   clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU writes:
   >Had Canada "developed" the Prairies (Man, Sask, and Alberta were
   >developed by the Federal government) consistent with what some
   >Canadien nationalists had argued for in the decades following
   >Conferederation.  We would have 6 or 7 bilingual provinces right now,
   >and the secession of Quebec would have far less currency.

   I don't buy this! There was very little French migration in the
   world, and the resident francophone population would have been
   swamped by immigration, regardless. With the American influence and
   the large anglophone immigration, the ("other"-language) immigrants
   would have still wound up English speaking.

Can you quantify this large anglophone immigration?  I had always
though that most of the arriving immigrants to Western Canada spoke
neither English nor French.  It would have been enough to bring over
Catholics, and to certify the equality of the French language in
political (and educational) life.

The Nationalists from Quebec, epitomized by Henri Bourassa, (back then
they were lobbying for an independent, binational Canada) envisioned
francophone migration from French Canada (and New England, where many
Quebecers migrated during the recession of the 1880s) to "Les
Plaines".  A more bilingual West would have increased (Catholic)
Church interest in settlement there.

--
Stewart M. Clamen			Internet:    clamen@cs.cmu.edu
School of Computer Science		UUCP: 	     uunet!"clamen@cs.cmu.edu"
Carnegie Mellon University		Phone: 	     +1 412 268 2145
5000 Forbes Avenue			Fax:	     +1 412 268 5739
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3891, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: jgtsai@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jane Tsai)
Subject: info on Winnipeg Folk Fest. and Gimli Sunfest
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 01:05:53 GMT


This is directed to anyone who attend either of the "fests" in Manitoba. I
would like to know who performed at them and how it generally turned out.
Also if anyone has an address of where I could write to to get some
"souvenir" merchendise , it would be appreciated.

Thanks...

Jane Tsai
s3004638@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au
jgtsai@nyx.cs.du.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: pierre@chaos.phys.ualberta.ca (Pierre Rouleau)
Subject: Re: Summer temp in Edmonton
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:50:35 GMT

In article <dhalliwe.714082266@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>  
userDHAL@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (David Halliwell) writes:
>    The nice thing is, it also cools down at night:
> we've had lows of 10-15 on some of these 27C days!
> Just open the windows, and you can
> sleep like a baby.

How true that it has been nice. But, returning to the
confusion about temperatures originating from the
N. Y. Times, one must admit that Edmonton wheather
is most erratic. This reminds me of a return trip from
Montreal last September when one passenger, upon hearing
the barely audible pilot stating that it was 30 deg C
in Edmonton, asked:  was this plus or minus 30 ?????

Record shows that he could have been right either way
for that month !!  Still interested in Edmonton ?

Pierre R.  :-)

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau)
Subject: Re: Parking on a hill
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:49:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.154536.29574@cc.umontreal.ca> little@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Littlejohn Tim) writes:
>
>HELP!  I am a newcomer to Quebec and about to do my practical driving 
>test on monday.  Someone posted that you could fail for
>turning the wheels the wrong way when parking on a hill.
>
> ...
>
>Thanks!  I guess there are 4 combinations; uphill, downhill,
>right hand curb, left hand curb (e.g. on a one way street).

You're forgetting one factor - is there a curb or not?  (Hint:  if
there is a curb, you turn the wheels such that, if the car starts
moving downhill, the front wheels will come to rest on the curb and
stop the car.)

Now, if you don't know the answer to this question, are you really
ready to pass the test?  Are you sure you know the rules of the road
sufficiently?  (Traffic laws ARE location specific.)

I know in Ontario, when I got my learner's permit I also got a booklet
outlining all the laws and regulations and such - I strongly suggest
you go to the appropriate office (where you pass the test, I guess),
get the equivalent booklet for Quebec, and MEMORIZE THE DAMN THING.
(Heck, I probably could use a refresher.  Sample question, that MIGHT
come up in a driving test:  how far must you park from a fire hydrant,
or an intersection?)

The Rhealist - Rheal Nadeau - nadeau@bnr.ca - Speaking only for myself
From: little@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Littlejohn Tim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Parking on a hill
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:45:36 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal


HELP!  I am a newcomer to Quebec and about to do my practical driving 
test on monday.  Someone posted that you could fail for
turning the wheels the wrong way when parking on a hill.

Well, how do you do it?  I want to know so 1) I won't fail and 2) my
car wont slide onto a highway when it gets icy!  I have though
about the physics of it, so I'm sure I know the answer to the
latter but not the former. Please answer somthing like the following:

"When parking on the right hand side of the road pointing uphill,
turn the steering wheel counterclockwise" etc.

Thanks!  I guess there are 4 combinations; uphill, downhill,
right hand curb, left hand curb (e.g. on a one way street).

My test will be in Montreal, if that makes any difference...
Any other tips on passing a driving test would be MOST welcome!
This may be useful info for other poeple, too, so posting 
probably might be a good idea.....

Thanks!

Tim