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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:24:32 EST
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From:         Mark Medici <medici@DORM.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Adaptec EISA controllers

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>Find attached to the bootom of this message a program that you can run
>under DOS to check if you have the Intel BMIC problem that I talked
>about in this and other News groups.  It has been uuencoded, so clip
>all of this off and uudecode it back into binary form again.

>Cheers,
>Michael


Your message seems to have come through (to at least this site)
incomplete in some way.  Though I see the "begin" and "end" lines, I
can't uudecode your posting correctly.

Might you be able to mail me the file directly?  If you use Pegasus
Mail, you can send it to me at medici@rucs-admin.rutgers.edu, other-
wise, either that or this address is fine.

Thanks in advnace.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:15:56 +0000
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From:         Paul Manning <pcm@MCS.LE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: X-Windows Software for ODI

>
>Hi
>
>Is their anybody who is using any kind of X-Windows software on a PC
>running ODI. If yes I am after some advice for that.
>
>
>Thanks
>Riyad
>

I am running both Vista eXceedp (a dos X application) and eXceedw (a
Windows X application) over TCPIP (i.e. Lan Workplace) and ODI.  Both work
very well, but it is a bit of a pain selecting the XCDMP-query host -
assuming you have moth than one.

==================================================
   Paul C. Manning
   Senior Computer Officer
   Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
   University of Leicester
   University Road
   Leicester LE1 7RH
   U.K.
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:30:40 -0800
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Henry Unger <hunger@HITECH.COM>
Subject:      X-Windows Software for ODI
              18 Nov 1992 16:06:28 EDT

I'm running DESQview/X with IPX/SPX or TCP/IP over ODI

Henry
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:35:33 CST
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From:         "Derek L. Bell" <rp6dlb@TEXACO.COM>
Subject:      Re: IPX tunnelling over TCP/IP WAN information request

We triad getting it to work but have not been successful. I talked with Novell
 tech support about the problem (Idon't recall who I talked to - it was long
 ago) and was told that it would not work. Would it make a diference if one of
 the systems was an
OS/2 Lotus Notes Server? If this will work then we can access different OS/2
 Lotus Notes servers across the WAN!! We currently can't do that. ANy help you
 can give me is appreciated!!!

Derek
rp6dlb@texaco.com
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From: jnlong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeffrey N Long)
Subject: Re: Reasonable compensation for beeper coverage
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:20:02 GMT

In article <01GRDJMNXHV69GV8UI@UNCA.BITNET> Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@S
UVM.BITNET> writes:
>What's reasonable compensation for nightly and week-end coverage of a network
?
>That is, what's  a fair rate to pay folks who carry a beeper and are 'on-call'
?
>Is a percentage of salary typically used to figure an amount ?  We're just
>starting this practice of formally having folks on-call, and want to fairly
>compensate whoever is on-call for their restricted 'time-off'.  We have yet to
>see just how much time will actually be spent trouble-shooting and fixing
>problems ... but the restriction to your life sure sounds like it deserves fai
r
>treatment.  I'll appreciate any thoughts re: how to figure rates of pay for
>this 'on-call' time ... if you suggest an amount, please include salary ranges
>for your area.  THANKS !
>
>Joan Colburn
>colburn@unca.bitnet
>colburn@unca.edu

As a CNE we use to get time and a half for being called in on the weekend.

JL
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:07:51 EST
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From:         Brett Warthen <BRETT@INFINITE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      RE: Charon with Novells MHS

FORWARDED MESSAGE from Einar Magnussen (MAIL @ CSERVE
EM> {INTERNET:EINARM@AMADEUS.CMI.NO}) at 11/16/92 3:13 AM
EM> From: Einar Magnussen <EINARM@AMADEUS.CMI.NO>
EM> Subject:      Charon with Novells MHS
EM>
EM> I am currently running the Charon SMTP gateway with Pegasus EMail i a
EM> NetWare 386 v3.11 LAN. But I would like to migrate to the WinMail EMail
EM> software which is tightly knitted to Novell and which supports MHS.
EM>
EM> Has anybody good experiences in running Charon with EMail software that
EM> use Novells MHS? Will mail with attatched files to other users have to
EM> be extracted with UUDECODER if we install Novells MHS?
EM>
EM> I would prefer a solution where my LAN clients get their EMail
EM> delievered with attatched files if any EMail package supporting Novells
EM> MHS is run at the other shore.
EM>
***** NOTES from Brett Warthen (BRETT @ INFINITE) at 11/16/92 1:34 PM
Einar,

Charon does not support Novell's MHS.

There is a shareware utility, XGATE, which acts as a gateway between Charon
and MHS.  The only downside of this setup is that this configuration
requires 3 dedicated PCs...one running MHS, one running Charon, and another
running XGATE.  (Although you could experiment with running them under
Desqview or OS/2.)

Other alternatives for MHS to SMTP connectivity include:

NetWare Global Messaging (the MHS NLM) with its optional SMTP protocol
module.  (I'm not sure if the SMTP protocol module has actually started
shipping yet, but it should be close.)

S-Bridge from Computer Mail Services (313-352-6700 / FAX:313-352-8387).

Or, you could go an MHS to UUCP route...where UGATE is a popular shareware
gateway that connects these two environments over a dial-up or dedicated
async link.

Since I don't have an FTP link into the internet, I'm not sure where you
can locate XGATE or UGATE out here...but if you'd like, I can e-mail the
ZIP files to you.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:53:27 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PS/2 Model 80 with Windows 3.1 as 3.11 client

>I have a few PS/2 Model 80-071s that I want to use with Netware 3.11 and
>Windows 3.1. I'm able to get them to work with Netware, using the wd8003e
>packet driver, pdipx, and netx, and I'm able to get them to work with
>Windows 3.1. But I'm not able to get them to work with both. I can trace the
>problem down to the packet driver. If the packet driver is loaded into
>memory then they will crash right out of windows. The advertising screen
>shows up but instead of going to the next screen windows crashes and leaves
>them at the dos prompt. They both have sufficient memory to go into 386
>enhanced mode. When I specify standard mode then they will load the next
>screen in windows but the mouse is invisible. It seems to me the problem
>might be in an interaction between the mouse driver, the packet driver,
>and windows, but I'm not sure how to deal with it. Has anybody run into this
>problem and solved it?
>
>Thanks,
>Loren
>--
>+++++++++++++++++++++++23
Loren Miller              LOREN@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu
----------------
        Several suggestions here. First, always load TSRs before starting
Windows. Second, get shim WINPKT.ZIP from either the Crynwr Collection of
Packet Drivers or directly from netlab2.usu.edu, cd drivers. This will
handle the Windows enhanced mode problems. Third, you must eXclude the
memory area of the Ethernet adapter, both in your normal memory manager
and again in Windows' system.ini file. Forget standard mode if you can.
Finally, check your IRQs and Windows setup for the mouse; there probably
is a conflict. I presume you have taken the trouble to acquire the Windows
updates to NW material, in Netwire novlib forum 01 (ftp from ftp.is.sandy.
Novell.com and other sites copying that master source).
        Joe D.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:31:00 LCL
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From:         MIKE <MIKE@LARSE.COM>
Subject:      Re: avoinding hard disk boot

It is possible to modify a boot ROM so that it will not allow the system to
boot from a floppy or Harddrive. It is more difficult to protect a
harddrive from being formatted unless you also do not want to write
anything to the harddrive at all because the DOS format command does not
really format the hard drive (this is done when a low level format is
done). All the DOS format command does is check for bad blocks and write a
new Directory and FAT table. This makes it difficult for any software to
tell if a write was an attempt to format or just to write a temporary file.
Note: With MOST versions of the DOS format program, the updates to the
harddrive are not done until the entire disk is scanned, so if you
interrupt the format process at 95% complete you will fine that nothing has
been done to the disk and all files are intact.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:09:27 PST
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From:         mike <DUNES@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Still trying to print...
              16 Nov 1992 16:12:26 CST from <SC0HASS@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU>

I read some Novell Certification statements on a Northgate 486/33 EISA
that said it could not print to a printer attached to a parallel port
on the server.  Perhaps this is your situation, in which case you should
find another PC to use as a print server.
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:20:23 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Novell Security package

        Today Novell announced their expected Phase I enhancements to NetWare
security. The full text document is in novlib\novfiles as security.doc.
In addition, several large selfunpacking archives are present with new
shell and server components (DOS and OS/2, no Mac).

                        W A R N I N G S:
This stuff may crash your server and/or workstation. Mine crashes hard.

        Item: install server and ODI client components, reboot server.
Observe server crash with message -
        "AllocateNonMovableReturnableMemory discovered invalid memory block
segment"  when NetWare NFS v1.1 starts loading.

        Item: remove NFS startup and login from a workstation with the
new utilities (using BNETX, new).
Observe server crash with message -
        "ReplyKeepgivenreplypacket that is too long"


Caution: New SET PROTOCOL message gives false Unknown Set command error
if the SET is given before new Clib is loaded, even though the command is
apparently performed.
Caution: archive file SECUT1.EXE has an invalid CRC checksum on FCONSOLE.EXE.
Attempting to run the new FCONSOLE will crash your workstation.

        All of these files are located on Sandy and netlab2.usu.edu. Whether
or not you can see Netlab2 depends on whether I can find a way into the
system now that these changes have been made. The loss of NFS v1.1 means
you will not be able to see novlib on netlab1.usu.edu (Unix, NFS mounts
the sys:/anonftp area). I'm waiting for the server to reboot yet again to
try more tricks to login successfully.

        Novell: HELP! Please.

        Joe D.
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From: tmunro@superior.carleton.ca (Tim Munro)
Subject: Re: NCSA Telnet and Windows
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:13:50 GMT

	You could also try WinQvtNet. It's a fairly robust tcp/ip
package for windows. It include Telnet, Ftp, Mail (POP3), and News
(nntp). I find it works very well. It *requires* packet drivers and an
enhanced mode shim is provided with the package. I like it.

--
Tim Munro

Internet: tmunro@ccs.carleton.ca
Voice:    (613) 788-2600 x3722 
Fax:      (613) 788-4448

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From: MAILBOX@ZEUS.ICE.NL (Zeus Mailbox)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: Disk Fragmentation (Speed Disk necessary) ???
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:31:26 GMT
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Organization: ETB-Lubbers Nederland B.V.
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> what happens if you create lots of directories and files, delete them and
> do that again and again ?
>
> Does the Netware file system get fragmented ?
>
> If yes, is there anything like "Speed Disk" for Netware ?
>
>
> Thanks for any info, Ernst.
> --
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ernst Kloecker      phone: ++49-30-6181635      e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Ernst,
Yes netware disks get fragmented, however the very nice feature called
'elivator seeking' minimizes the effect of this problem.
Iam not aware of a tool to get ride of the fragmantation on a 3.11
server. There is a tool for it on the 2.x servers, its published by
ontrack (the same guys that make: disk-manager, diskmanager-n,
Dr.solomons anti-4us toolkit).

Greetings...

Henno.




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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:03:00 LCL
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From:         Dave Kearns <DKEARNS.TCC@KLAVEN.TCI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Piping and network drives

AS> Since the subject of piping in DOS has been brought up on a few
AS> occasions I wonder if anyone might suggest an answer to a problem of
AS> mine involving ju
AS> st
AS> such piping on  a network drive?
AS>
AS> I want to run a batch command like:
AS>
AS> if errorlevel 6 dir|sort
AS>
AS> When I do this using ndos.com it works fine, when I do it with standard
AS> command.com it fails. No error messages, no problems, no nothing: the
AS> pipe just doesn't work. The dir command is not run (or not that I can
AS> see it anyway) and its output is not piped into sort. A temp variable
AS> is set so that can't be the problem and even doing it as supervisor
AS> doesn't help, so inability to write temporary files to the root is not
AS> the problem either.
AS>

Pipe wants to write a temporary file to the root directory of the current
drive. If you don't have rights there, it fails.

-dave

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From: declan@scout (Declan Fleming)
Subject: Re: SLIP and ODI
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:26:52 GMT

donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:

>In article <BxnvE5.2wr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> declan@scout (Declan Fleming) writes:
>>Slow as in it takes nearly 2 minutes to run the login command from
>>the server.  I must have some conflict.
>
>I doubt it.  It sounds like you're just using precious bandwidth to
>download Login.Exe, which is a rather substantial bit of data.  If
>you're going to run NetWare over a phone line, you should copy all the
>NetWare utilities you plan to use to your PC's local hard disk.  (This
>could take quite a while at 19.2K, so i'd use a floppy myself.)  Then
>make *very* sure you don't map a drive in your search path to a server
>disk.  Use Attach instead of Login so you don't have to worry about
>the system login script "helpfully" mapping a search drive for you.
>
>						don provan
>						donp@novell.com

Gotcha - but  ---  What real use is a server if I can't run the
applications on it?  I can get to data, ok, but I don't want all the
apps on my home machine.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not bitching.  Just want fiber strung to my home!

d
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From: mpiet@is.morgan.com (Mark Pietrasanta)
Subject: Re: LPD NLM Questions.
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:35:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.134443.12189@waikato.ac.nz>, hamish@waikato.ac.nz writes:
|> 
|> A short and easy question. When using novells PLPD (Or whatever their LPD
|> server is called that comes with the NFS NLM'S), what user owns the spool job
|> when the file has been spooled?
|> 
|> Also. How much would people be prepared to pay for a standalone LPD?
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|>      ?              Hamish Marson, Computer Science, University of Waikato 
|>    ?????            hamish@waikato.ac.nz.  Fax +64 7 8384066
|>  ?????????          Disclaimer:  Remember, you heard it here first!
|> 		  
|> Taking a measurement changes the system being measured.

The spool job in Novell is owned just like other queues.  It talks directly
to the Unix queue, and that is owned like all other Unix queues are owned
(in fact, it isn't modified at all to accept the Novell printing).

I'm not clear on exactly what you're asking.
-- 
Mark Pietrasanta - mpiet@is.morgan.com
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:02:04 CST
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From:         Jeremy Butler <jbutler@CCMAIL.BAMANET.UA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Passing A Password

>Jeremy Butler <jbutler@EDU.UA.BAMANET.CCMAIL> asks:
>
>>    I've tried using DOS piping commands ("|" and "<") but I can't get
>    them
>>    to work on network drives.  E.g., the commands
>>
>>    ECHO password | LOGIN username       and
>>
?>    LOGIN username < password.txt     [password.txt contains the
>    password]
>
>I know you can pipe passwords into the password changing program SETPASS
>but is your problem with login the fact that you have no rights in
>your current directory (f:\login ?) in order to create the temporary
>file for the pipe?

    I don't believe this is the problem, Phil.

    In my situation, I'm already logged in under one account that has
    rights to f:\login and I'm trying to then log in under a different
    account name and pass the password for that second account.

    Does that make any sense?
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Subject: Ask for suggestion

Hi:

I need to link 4 PC's.  The four are storing and displaying the same data base.
Local retailer offered to me the Ethernet (16 bits) boards for $89 and the wire
50 cents a foot.  I have licensed copy of Novell 3.11.

I can't afford to pay installation.  Can I do it myself?

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:52:36 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Security pgms, cont'd

        Another part of the tale of non-thoroughly tested Security programs.

        My NW 3.11 server netlab2.usu.edu finally refused to mount SYS: vol
mirror mismatch errors (a familar error to many of us). So two Vrepairs and
removing NFS namespace later (ugh) I got it to come up. Try to ATTACH from
another server and it will not work. Uh oh again. Try to LOGIN and that did
work. So here's yet another broken item in the Security suite.
        My earlier msg indicated that the server would crash with either NFS
version 1.1 loaded, or without it and trying to do a straight LOGIN using
BNETX and PBURST. I have again discarded BNETX and PBURST, and that plus the
two VREPAIRS (and loss of NFS namespace) let me get into the machine.
        I have SALVAGE'd clib.nlm and will try to bring the server up again
on the older one, and reinstate NFS v1.1. More Salvaging will be done this
afternoon to remove ALL traces of this new security material.
        I thought you'd like to know before experimenting on your systems.
If you do experiment make sure you have solid backups which can be used
with initial Novell floppies when worse comes to worse.
        Joe D.
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