HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Sohban Shahid)
Subject: Re: ALTAF HUSSEIN GARBAGE CAN!!!!!(REMOVED FROM PAKISTAN)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:41:52 GMT
Reply-To: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Colorado State U. Civil Engineering
Keywords: Sick,pathetic 

Hello you ===> " WITHOUT A NAME",

If the criteria of judging an individual person is based on
his ethnicity than your claim is well proved and you have
proved well enough in your article by showing your extremes.

But a coward person like you forgot to write his name so that
he can recieve heartly greetings from other sensible netters,
who do not share this kind of filth with you.  Wake up, before
you lose too much of your brain.

It is my sincere request to all the scpian's to ignore the 
original post and leave this crackpot '911masibi@gw.wmich.edu'
in his nutshell.  

You think I'm mad on you, poor soul. No, I want your name so that 
I can have one more entry in my 'author kill' file.  Please help
me and others in junk sorting.
*********************************************************************

SOHBAN SHAHID                
Civil Engg. Dept.                (303) 491 7710/8204 (work)
Colorado State University        (303) 224 0397  (home)
Ft. Collins, CO-80523

*********************************************************************
Deny it, if somebody says that 'evalution is a slow process up north',
laugh it out, if the person insists on his/her claim,
ignore it, if he/she is persistant in his/her claim.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: izaz@cbnews.cb.att.com (sheikh.izazul.haque)
Subject: public hangings in pakistan
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:36:44 GMT

I just read about 10 public hangings in the Punjab timed to meet the 
oppositions protest campaigns. Given the corrupt state of Pakistans judicial
systems, isn't it immoral for the government to hang anyone, let alone time
it to provide a political message as well?

                          izaz haque
From: B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: CFV: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:19:13 GMT

> In article <1e9pb6INNm9v@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.ed
u (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
>I am not from "these countries."  I have never lived in an Islamic
>country in my life.  But one thing I *was* taught is that one should
>know what one is arguing about before one attempts it.  Were you ever
>taught that Raj?  Or is common sense something that you just never
>considered important?

It only shows that Bangladesh still has some rabid jammati fundamentalists 
carrying the flags of their Arab/Paki masters. As previously said, pet Dogs 
are more faithful to the house than the masters themselves. No wonder pakistan
comfortably screwed Bangladesh 10 years ago, killing over 3 millions Bengalis,
with the help of Jamatees like your-self. Average Bangladeshi would be
very much relieved to know that your highness decided to live in non-islamic 
state of America and did not come to live in (islamic republic of) Bangladesh.
At least, you had some mercy on Islam.

bkumar
From: maya@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Mohammed Ayaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: purpose of this news group
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:05:29 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

I unlike some others have noticed a newsgroup called soc.religion.islam so
could all the religion orientated news be posted to that news group not this
one as l like many others would like news about pakistan, not islam in this news
group.
From: 92ali@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: case is closed....!!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:56:56 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Shakir....

Forgive him...he doesn't mean it..and just close the case...

that case is adjourned....!!!!

Ahmed

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik)
Subject: Re: Islam: One religion: no sects
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:43:19 GMT

merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
: >From: nadeem%igpho@uunet.UU.NET (Nadeem Malik)
: >Subject:The Seal Of Prophets, Reply to Raheel Khan: R1
: >Date: 21 Nov 92 21:45:39 GMT
: 
: 	Islam: One religion, no sects.
: >
: >
: >
: >It should be made clear that only the modern day Muslim Scholars consider
: >people who believe in continuity of Prophethood as not Muslim. But then,
: >the Holy Prophet said that 72 out 73 sects in Islam in the latter days would be
: >astray and only one would be rightly guided. So where does this leave us! Again
: >
: 
:         And if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to
:         Allah and the Messenger. (4:59)
: 
:         This is my path, so follow it.  Follow not other ways
:         lest ye be parted from his way. (6:153)
: 
: And the words of Allah (swt) are true.
: 
:         Hold fast together by the Rope which Allah (streches out for
:         you); and be not divided amoung yourselves.  Al-e-Imran 3:103
: 
:         As for those who divide their religion and break up into
:         sects, you have no part in them in the least; their affair
:         is with Allah.  He will in the end tell them the truth of
:         all that they did.  Al An'am 6: 159
: 
:         Obey Allah and His Messenger and fall into no disputes,
:         lest you lose heart and your power depart.  And be patient
:         and perseving; for Alllah is with those who patiently
:         persevere.  Al Anfal 8:46
: 
:         By Allah! That is the standard Religion, but most men
:         among mankind understand not.  Turn back in repentence
:         to Him, and fear Him.  Establish regular Prayer, and be
:         not among those who join gods with Allah;  those who
:         spilt up their religion, and become (mere) sects, each
:         party rejoicing that which itself.  Al Rum 30: 30-3
: 
:         The same Religion has He established for you that which
:         He enjoined on Noah; that which We have sent by inspiration
:         to you; and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and
:         Jesus; namely, that you should remain steadfast in religion
:         and make no division therin.  Al Shura 42:13
: 
: And the words of Allah (swt) are true.
:   
: 
: >
: >Nadeem Malik
: >
: 
: -Rukhsana Merchant
: 
: 
This has now been repeated several times. It is clear from reading the hadith
about 72 out of 73 sects in Islam going to hell in the light of the above
verses of the Quran, that Jamat-e-Ahmadiyya is the one true Jamat in Islam,
and the rest are sects (firqa) who should abandon their anti-AHamdi stance
immediately and accept the Promised Messiah and join the correct Jamat without
delay.

Nadeem Malik
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Subject: Re: Differences between Sunnies & Shias Muslims...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Hydrocarbons...
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:07:00 GMT

In article <1eqp0tINNth@coral.bucknell.edu>, zabdi@bucknell.edu (Zakir Abdi) writes...
>	Dear Netters,
> 
>	Yesterday I was reading a magazine and found something interesting for
>	you.  According to Alama Sajid Ali Naqvi following are the differences
>	between two, and I am quoting here:
> 
> 
>		"The differences are significant.  They say cut the thief's 
>		hands from the wrists.  We say just cut the fingers from
>		the palms."
> 
>		"Alama Sajid Ali Naqvi"
>		
>	
>	Any comments...
> 
> 
>	Khuda Hafiz
> 
>	Zakir Abdi
> 

	....and I say that we just cut the nails from the fingers..

Mirza Ilyas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Subject: Re: Is Benazir Muslim ?  No Way !!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:11:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.191125.26371@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes...
> 
>       I remember, when I was in Pakistan, I saw a statement 
>	from that time Prime Minister of Pakistan , the 
>champion of democracy , benazir bhutto . She said , " I dont
>believe that the witness of a man is equal to the witness of 
>two women. This is Grabage."
> 
>So if she doesnot believe in Quran , how come is she muslim ?
>No way. If somebody believes it, then he/she lives in fools
>paradise. 
> 
>What you guys think ?
	
	Why not witness of a man be equal to the witness of 10
	women Or may be there is no need for any women witness...

	[Why go only 1500 years back why not 20000 years or more]

Mirza Ilyas
From: 971kamali@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: "My" Previous Post
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:38:20 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov16.103947.6370@gw.wmich.edu>, x90kamali1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> In article <1992Nov15.221558.9285@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Brian Willnecker) writes:
>> 
>> Today, I received a phone call from one of my classmates that "I" had posted
>> a letter stating "Death to Pakistan".  This was news to me, and I am
>> writing my apology here for any offense that was taken.
>> 
>> Yesterday, I was logged into a public access terminal with several sessions
>> open at one time (using an IBM compatible and Windows).  Apparently, I
>> forgot to close one of my communcations sessions, and, since the computers
>> never get turned off, somebody obviously took advantage of an open account
>> and abused it and my reputation.
>> 
>> I assure you that I had nothing to do with the offensive posting.  Actions
>> of this sort are completely out of line with my character, and several of my
>> friends are willing to attest to this if need be.  In fact,
>> I do not even subscribe to soc.culture.pakistan, so I do not know why I
>> would ever post there in the first place.
>> 
>> I do not know who abused my account, but whoever did was completely immature
>> and irresponsible.  I know that one can call me irresponsible for forgetting
>> to close my account, but this person's actions go far beyond acceptable or
>> adult-like.
>> 
>> I too am embarrassed to think that there are people at this University who
>> would commit such an injustice to me, to the readers of the newsgroup, and
>> to all Pakistanis.
>> 
>> Once again, I extend my regrets, and apologize to anyone who was offended by
>> the previous posting.  
>> 
>> I hope that this is all that has been done with my account, and that this
>> marks the end of any repurcussions.
>> 
>> Most sincerely,
>> Brian Willnecker
>> wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
>> 
>> -- 
>> ****************************************************************************
>> * Brian Willnecker                   : "You can blow out a candle,         *
>> * wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu    :  but you can't blow out a fire"  PG *
>> ****************************************************************************
> 
> Then how come the ending message is the same. That guy also knows
> how to write the phrase exactly the same way you have written here.
> 
> May be some body kick your bud very hard.
> 
> 
> --SHAKIR
>         [ALWAYS LOOKING ON BRIGTER SIDE].
> 


Some body told me, he may be using Signature file, But I don't think so that
this guy was using a signature file.
If he was, then I am sorry.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Email in Pakistan
From: amr7969@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 21 Nov 92 14:38:52 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University
Summary: email from pakistan

In article <8342@public.BTR.COM>, a9@public.BTR.COM (Ashar Nisar) writes:
> In article <8f2cKH_00WBLI47JQ3@andrew.cmu.edu> ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Asad Iqbal) writes:
>>
>>Hi 
>>Can Imran Anwer or anybody please send me some information on how to get
>>an e-mail account in Karachi. I need to know exactly what I'll need and
>>what I'll have to do.
>>Asad
> 
> You can dialup 455-9448 in Karachi with modem settings (1200 to 14400 baud),
> N81 and set up an account for the internet access. Send mail to "root"
> to get registered. Local email is free and the data transportation cost
> (subsidized) is about 0.03 cents per character (i.e., 66 cents per a
> page of 2000 characters) for the internet/bitnet/MCImail/etc worldwide.
> For more information contact Usman Anwar in Lahore (42)-830111.
> 
> Ashar Nisar

**************************************************************
HI!
can someone give me some info about vax account in karachi. If someone
get the account by contacting  the number given above, will that person
be able to send me mail here in my account at the USA?
					Thanx in advance...

						Aamir...
From: chaudhry@chip.eecs.umich.edu (Iblees)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Allah's not making water today
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:46:56 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI

The folllowing posting appeard on alt.atheism. 

Article: 38529 of alt.atheism

>RV> In a village in the Punjab Province of Pakistan, a man (who didn't
>RV> happen to be Moslem) was standing in the town square near a public
>RV> water tap, over which was an inscription that mentioned Allah. Two
>RV> Moslems tried to fill buckets at the tap, but it didn't work, they
>RV> asked rhetorically, "What's wrong with the tap?"
>RV> The man quipped, "Perhaps Allah isn't making water today."
>RV> He was executed yesterday for blasphemy under a new, stricter, law.
 
CB> is this anecdotal? an urban legend? or for real? source, if you
CB> still have it, please.
 
R> "For real. On 2 November BBC NewsHour (at 1300 UTC) had a large
R> item on it, including a telephone interview with the man's lawyer
R> in Lahore. Since it was on the radio, I didn't get the spelling
R> of the man's name, or that of his lawyer, or the village.
R> According to the lawyer, such an offense had been punishable with
R> life imprisonment under the previous law and this was the first
R> conviction since the new law making it a capital offense took
R> effect. The execution took place Sunday, which was the same day
R> that Iran announced an increase in the bounty offered for Salman
R> Rushdee.
  
Has anybody heard of this shocking piece of news? Can somebody please
confirm or deny the news or possibly explain the circumstances of 
this incident, if it actually did happen. I hope that "law and justice"
in our country have not fallen to such low depths, but I may be wrong.

Nauman Chaudhry
----------------------------------------------------------------------
According to Christianity [ Islam and some other religions ] God " is supposed
to be a revengful tyrant, delighting in cruelty,  punishing his creatures for
the very sins which he causes them to commit; and creating numberless millions
of immortal souls, that could never have offended him, for the express purpose
of tormenting them to all eternity"
From: guest@ncucs
Subject: Re: someone in UC admires me!
Organization: E.E. in National Central University, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:18:34 GMT

In article <Bx7r5o.18p@ucunix.san.uc.edu> ztm36307@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T. Minhas) writes:
>From: ztm36307@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T. Minhas)
>Subject: someone in UC admires me!
>Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:44:12 GMT
>now for another one of my humorous diddies. i used the finger to see if a friend
>was available for "talking", and this is what I got.
>
>[ucbeh.san.uc.edu]
>STORKJW  John Wilford Stork  STORKJW not logged in
>Last login Thu 29-Oct-92 11:30PM-EST
>
>Plan:
>
>O TEMPORA! O MORES! O ZAFARES MUNDI!
>
>------------------------------------------
>
>looks like this guy really admires me!
>
>--== not the fingernail man ==--
>
>zafar

`
From: rk@nms.hls.com (The Kafir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: "My" Previous Post
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:33:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
Originator: ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu

In article <1992Nov16.113820.6373@gw.wmich.edu> 971kamali@gw.wmich.edu writes:
  ...
  >> May be some body kick your bud very hard.
  >> 
  >> --SHAKIR
  ...
  >Some body told me, he may be using Signature file, But I don't think so that
  >this guy was using a signature file.

How do you know he was not using a ~/.signature ?

   "But I don't think so that this guy was using a signature file." 

Just what basis do you have for saying this ? Is it written in Qur'an ?

And how does one kick someone's "bud" ?

---
S Ramakrishnan
From: amr7969@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Latest news on the March.
Summary: hang 'em all
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:04:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax1.1992Nov21.010419.2519
Distribution: world
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1992Nov19.185001.6455@gw.wmich.edu>, x90kamali1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> In article <1992Nov19.200538.21330@sol.UVic.CA>, ahussain@engr.UVic.CA (Amyn  Hussain) writes:
>> In article 10302@galileo.cc.rochester.edu, ousi_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Omer Usmani) writes:
>>>
>>> Benazir has been arrested and the march has been stopped. Hundreds of
>>>police made roadblocks and stopped all incoming traffic to the Capital.
>>>   Benazir and her entourage when they tried to run one of the blockades 
>>>were attacked and latthi-charged. 
>>>  I saw all of this on the NBC and ABC evening news. They said that many 
>>>western embassies had requested her to stop the march calling it foolish
>>>(this is an internal Paki matter what right have those idiots to interfere.)
>>>  Anyway the lathi-charge was quite bad from what I saw, Benazir had her 
>>>dupatta pulled off and then arrested. This is after she got into her 
>>>Land Cruiser and (I assume) was trying to leave. The police promptly pulled
>>>her out and arrested her.
>>>  Personally I'm not her fan but really Nawaz should have shown more decency
>>>and sensitivity especially as she was a woman.
>>>
>>>   THATS ALL FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> *******************************************************************
   I think Nawaz sharif should hang bibi just like her father along
  with all other so called political leaders,jamaties and the
racial leaders. This might sound cruel, but its better for the safety
and prosperity of our dear country.......
                                            Aamir...

>>>
>>>Omer.........
>> 
>> 
>> I agree that Nawaz should not have done that and I am not a fan of
>> Nawaz either, but frankly speaking, it looks like the country is 
>> running better in the hands of Nawaz in comparison to what Benazir did.
>> Other than that I am sure that Nawaz had no idea that the police is going
>> to pull Benazir out of her Jeep otherwise he would have told the police to
>> leave her dupatta on her head and kindly requested to get herself arrested.
>> NOT.
>> 
>> 
> 
> It's obvious that army will be back in less than one year.
> But I don't know, wheather that will be better for the country 
> or not. Any comment on the current Pakistan situation.
> 
> 
> 	--Shakir
> 
> 
> 
> 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ousi_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Omer Usmani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: email discussion group for south asian women
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:56:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov11.192050.8549@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Uma M Subramanian) writes:

>There is an email discussion group for south asian women which has
>been set up recently. Women from the south asian countries as well 
>as women from other parts of the world interested in the issues that
>concern south asian women are welcome to join this discussion group.
>This group is not open to men as it is set up now. Women who would 
>like to join this mailing list should send mail to 

>usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

>OR

>susanc@helix.nih.gov

>Uma Subramanian


  I think that it is unfair that this 'discussion' group is closed to men.
Isn't that a form of sexism.
   I invite a justification/answer. 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:17128 soc.culture.indian:38037
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:04:03 -0500 
From: Asad Iqbal <ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Email in Pakistan


Hi 
Can Imran Anwer or anybody please send me some information on how to get
an e-mail account in Karachi. I need to know exactly what I'll need and
what I'll have to do.
Asad
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:56:14 -0500 
From: Asad Iqbal <ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Paki BASTARDS

I think the poor guy left himself logged on or something
Asad
From: fxm4993@hertz.njit.edu (Farhan Muhammad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Is Benazir Muslim ? No Way !!!
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:46:57 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <cf3zdWu00WBO434bho@andrew.cmu.edu> ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Asad Iqbal) writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.pakistan: 22-Nov-92 Is Benazir Muslim
>?  No Way.. by MUSTAFA IBRAHIM @slate.m 
>>  
>>        I remember, when I was in Pakistan, I saw a statement 
>>         from that time Prime Minister of Pakistan , the 
>> champion of democracy , benazir bhutto . She said , " I dont
>> believe that the witness of a man is equal to the witness of 
>> two women. This is Grabage."
>>  
>> So if she doesnot believe in Quran , how come is she muslim ?
>> No way. If somebody believes it, then he/she lives in fools
>> paradise. 
>>  
>> What you guys think ?
>That's a very sensitive issue.
>I'm sure a lot opf people on the net would tend to agree with her
>atleast I do and I believe not everything that worked 1400 years ago can
>work in these times. Whatever the case I would not call her a non-muslim
>just for that...there's alot of stuff we do that is worse but we still
>go pray every Friday afternoon.
>
>Asad


	Praying every Friday afternoon doesnot make you muslim....

	you have to beleif and trust every single aspect of islam..


			Farhan.
From: az1@ukc.ac.uk (A.Zafar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Paki BASTARDS
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:29:57 GMT
Reply-To: az1@ukc.ac.uk (A.Zafar)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <SHAH.92Nov17095547@orange.tutee.tut.ac.jp> shah@orange.tutee.tut.ac.jp (Q. H. Shah) writes:
>Dear Pakistani Brothers and Sisters
>
>Please ignore replying to this Willnecker. Just avoid him. He seems to be
>representative of American thought like Reagon used to use dirty language
>against Palestinians. Actually this is what the americans are. We do not
>have to worry about them. Most of them are Kafir and will go to hell. They
>do not listen. So let them go to hell. We should not use a language like
>americans. 
>--
>         Shah

	Listen....he apologized!!!!! Is something wrong with your news feeder
that you have not seen it. He says that he was left logged on. How you have
come to the conclusion that he is like Reagon when he said that he did not
write that article, is beyond me. I bet the person who sent that article is
having one hell of a laugh.


			 - Aman Zafar 			_   /|
			 - University of Kent 		\'o.O'
			 - England. 			=(___)=	
							   U
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: maa@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Muhammad Afzal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: The purpose of this newsgroup.
Keywords: I have just subscribed to this and have noticed that the majority of the
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:11:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

issues raised are concerned with Islam rather than Pakistan I would like to remind
readers of a group called soc.religion.Islam . It is all very well that these
subjects are being raised but please put them in the other newsgroup and lets all use
this group for its purpose.
							Assad   
					Edinburgh University 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan