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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:22:00 EST
From:         "Adam H. @ Drew" <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>
Subject:      Hi everyone
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Hi all,
	Just wanted to let y'all know I'm still alive.  Thanks to all
for the privatemail...I'll respond to it, eventually. :^)  Ruth,
thanks for the snailmail list of local BBSs.
	Well, the big news up here is that I now have a car and a
temporary job that starts tomorrow.  The car's a 1988 Ford Tempo;
the job is writing some sort of computer accounting manual for a big
local convenience store chain.  But anyway...I miss y'all, and hope
list life is going OK.

--Adam
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:50:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Coasting along
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> Before I schlep through the next 80 or so msgs, did anyone answer the
> "Love Potion #9" question?  If not, I, being back at work, can.  (AND
> get credit in the 'on-line reference' box!
>
> JMW

So far, it's the Nylons and the Zombies neck and neck.  Any more
suggestions?
--ggs
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:50:03 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English Aspiration

>I think Karen was talking about consonant clusters in initial position.
>/s/ is the only consonant that precedes /p/, /t/, or /k/ in initial
>position.

Just for information - how do you pronounce "tmesis"? Or, say, the German
name Knopp (without anglicising it to "Nopp", that is)?

Do you pronounce tmesis as just "meesis"? Or introduce a short schwa between
t and m? Or none of the above?

tushar
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:39:00 EST
From:         CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Re: Greetings from Bill S.

Greetings,

Why am I not surprised that Bill S. likes Ireland, that bastion of
traditional family values and potato-based cuisine?  He's probably
already quaffing Bushmill's straight from the pot and talking
reactionary politics with the members of the local yacht club. (:-)

Marty
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:12:29 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Hello
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              1 Sep 1992 17:02:27 CDT from <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>

On Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:02:27 CDT Bandwidth Pig said:
>Hi, Shona. Don't mind us, it's that time of the year...
>
   or at least that time of the month.....
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:55:30 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      first preclam of the clam year 92-93
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Road Trip.

Goin' to california with a ....well, i don't remember
the rest of the song.

but the marine and i are heading out to Portland, "city of roses"
Oregon October 8-14. We'll be spending some time on the road
going to and from Ferndale Calif, checking out the potential
Clamboree '93 site, but should be in Portland and thereabouts
October 10-14 fur shure.

Carol Carmick has graciously offered up her guest suite
as a place to lay our weary heads, and i'm trying to get Chris
and Heidi down, or we'll go up, or something.

So, anyone who's in that area....forwarned is forearmed.

jenna

ps. and i'm really gonna get a tatoo this time. maybe a brand of
    the ranch on my....um....arm.
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Lint-free cloths
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 06:07:28 GMT


In a previous article, BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU () says:

>Well, there you go again, Don.  Crowing about your 20-year supply and so
>forth.  But you do not define your terms, nor do you offer any practical
>advice for poor bozos like me who have no access to hospital refuse.  Guess
>I'll just have to tough this one out.  :-)
I use a clean dust rag.:-)  That's usually an old flannel nightgown [or PJs]
which was too worn out to even think about patching.  Old undershirts work
fine too - the kind that are truely "holey", if you're not still wearing
them.  I skip the Windex, not having any smoke to clean off the screen.
If all else fails, hunt up a gourmet cookware store [Williams Sonoma?] and
buy some flour sack towels.  Expensive, but they would work.  I use mine to
hold cooling cookies.:-)
>Lint-free in a former life,
And acting as a lint trap in this one?
Ruth
 
>
-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
fighting for truth, justice and static-free lines
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From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: Ubi Sunt?
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 21:18:39 GMT

In article <Pine.2.4.59.9208282235.H764@abernathy.tenet.edu>
Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU> writes:
 
>who kept the room in darkness so he could *read* us all of the overheads
>which he had provided in our handouts...or the moderator of the last
>session, who had a stack of transparencies at least an inch thick and read
>them all to us (both apparently operating on the theory that high school
>teachers do not know how to read).
 
Now /c this in mind, look @ this from the perspective of a student and
see how many teachers or professors do the same thing?  Remember the
old speaker's credo:  the mind will absorb what the seat can endure.
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 21:46:15 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Words-l All-Amazon Task Force
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>Betty  (which breast comes off?) Z.

We are gonna make them in, er, right...handed and left ahnded models ;-).

Seriously, we haven't discussed color, but I think purple with yellow yettering
is good.

And the slogan is

Member Words-L All-Amazon Assault Force
words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

We need logo ideas, or EPS files, or something...stop me before I put that damn
map on another shirt!

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:54:41 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Visiting LA and Chicago
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> (As long as I'm at it - who's in charge of the words-l white pages?)

The Ronin wrote the white pages, but he's with us only sporadically these
days.  You wanna add something to the file?  If so, Bernard Chien Perro
can take care of it for you.  Send the info to him at any of his various
addresses (his main addresses are bernard@english.msstate.edu and maynor@
cs.msstate.edu -- mail can also get to him through my addresses).
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:55:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: OOOOPPPS (was: Thank You...)
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> Well done!
>
> tushar
>
> PS Don't REPLY to this email.

Stop me before I REPLY more!
--ggs (mad about the boy....)
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:55:07 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Rhubarb Pie
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	I need a good recipe.  Anyone got one?  Anyone know
what it tastes like?  Giggles or one of his sistahs must.

Rita
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 06:01:49 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The sole of a new machine
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> >What doesn't work?  I haven't found anything about vi that doesn't work --
> >except when I had turbo turned off and found that almost nothing online at
> >19200 without turbo worked very well.  Even then vi sort of worked -- it
> >just acted strange.
>
> Exactly.  I've read the command lists for vi, and can get it to work after a
> fashion, but that's about all.  The vi is always looking for colons while my

My point was that when I had turbo turned off, NOTHING worked normally.
The problem was not a problem with vi.  If I had been using online WP, it
would no doubt have acted strange also.  (Talk about an unfriendly editor --
I hate online WP.  I find things like :wq *much* more normal than the WP
commands.)  "Write, quit" seems pretty reasonable to me.  So does "x"ing
out a character you don't want.  Etc.

> problem, but adding the 4th [vi] just doesn't seem to compute....  If you
> think nothing works at 19200 w/o turbo, try doing anything at 1200 via
> telnet.<yecccch>

I have.  As unpleasant as it may be, 1200 via telnet doesn't act nearly
so weird as 19200 without turbo on.  Slow, but not weird.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:15:06 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Re[2]: Brother Barbara
              4 Sep 1992 09:16:34 EDT from <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:16:34 EDT jcs said:
>
>You know, why is Prostitution the world's oldest profession? I would
>assert that farming, or hunting is older.
>
>anyone else ?
>

I agree with Jenna; after all, you have to get the food before you can
trade it for sex.

>jcs

Evelyn
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:15:13 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: disks/modems/novels

>Aaahhhhhh, yessss.....the old writing of the Great American Novel by
>forever sharpening the pencils and straightening the stacks of paper .....
>
>or posting to words-l instead of......
>
>
>oh, hell....you know.....
>
>   dan

yeah--avoidance syndrome.  I never get anything done unless I'm
doing it to avoid doing something else.  I think Tushar's
strategy is to write the GAN to the list.  As I write, I am
avoiding the first 75 pp. of Tax.  At least avoidance syndrome
gives you a very clear picture of what you *like* to do, as
opposed to what you'd merely like to like to do.  A friend of
mine wishes she wanted to go to Tibet.

-Mka
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:45:05 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Fabrications
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Graham--I'll send you what I have--they were mailed to a large nb. of
people last week or the week before, so they aren't his parting comments.
Luc could not figure out how the guy got his address.  (He doesnt' post
to anything.)

Karen
who can't get hold of Luc and still feels like she is going to throw up
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:08:36 EDT
From:         Theresa Wild <TWILD@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rhubarb Pie

  What I usually do is chop the rhubarb into 1" pieces and boil it
down with sugar and a little water.  This makes the rhubarb more into
a sauce instead of chunks.  If it is too soupy, thicken with corn
starch.  Cool.  Taste for desired sweetness/sourness.  Of course,
this can be done during the cooking process, especially if you like
rhubarb.  Pour into a pie crust, add more sugar (brown or granulated)
if needed, dot with butter and bake until the pie crust is golden brown.
If you serve it warm, it may be a bit runny.  It is good at room temp
and even right out of the frig.

 Some people just chop the rhubarb up into the pie crust and cook it,
but you can control the sweet/sour taste better if you cook it first.


 Theresa
 twild@uriacc.uri.edu
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:47:40 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings Ooops
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              2 Sep 1992 13:39:38 EDT from <EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

On Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:39:38 EDT <EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> said:
>>Yes, but only if it is a full service station.....
>>unfortunately, most of them are self service these days....must be part of
>
>Can you tell just by looking? :)
>
   Yes.   Sometimes the clue is a big sign that says "Full Service Island".

Or sometimes you have to go inside and ASK the guy for full service....
and then he'll ask how fully you wanna be serviced, etc.....assume you
can handle the negotiations from there....

dan "we already established that, now we're just dickering over the price"
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:40:27 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      The Shape of things
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	I was going to include a little clipart lineart thingie of
Colorado in the newsletter I am working on.  Colorado is perfectly
square.  That's not very interesting.  I mean, really, what were
the civil engineers thinking?  I mean, I can't put a square in the
middle of the page.

	Wyoming is also pretty square.

	Maybe I'll use Montana.  Nobody really lives there anyways.
Wonder if anybody would notice.

Rita
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: Private vs. Public Schools
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:42:42 GMT

Rita in her innocence believes

>	Parents have real power over private schools because they are
>paying for them directly.  There is no school committee made up of
>political suck-asses to work around.  There is no school board to
>deal with.  That private school depends on your tuition check and
>endowments, and they're gonna listen when you make demands.

--I took my daughter out of a Jewish day school because the teacher was
sending her and one other student into the *hall* to do their schoolwork
while she (the teacher) tried vainly to control the fifth grade  classroom.
The principal was ineffective, an there was no reasooning with the parents
of the other precious darlings.  And this within a tradition that
*venerates* education!  

The last straw came when I went over Sharon's work: the teacher had graded
it "outstanding" -- I sent it back to the teacher covered with my
red-pencil corrections.  Not just once instance, either.  Up to that year,
the school had been pretty good: Sharon was 'way ahead of the public-school
kids she joined, but one or two parent's pressure doesn't do much even in
private school.

--bayla   
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:21:47 PDT
From:         s mandell <pwiebe@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject:      Schools
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Torkel's tale of the Swedish schools is the spark for the one thing
I did leave out of my previous tale of the Dutch school system:
religion.

In stark contrast to the schools in Sweden, something like 70% of the
children here attend Catholic or Protestant schools.  As my teacher
said, "The schools run by the government are for the socialists."  All
the schools recieve funding from the government, but I don't know how
this differs from schools with religious classes to schools without.
All schools must offer a certain set of subjects in order to be
certificated.

All schools that are not state schools must be started by a group of
parents.  In Amsterdam, you need 200 parents who will commit to sending
their children to the new school.  Out in the country, you need 50.  You
come up with the people and the state will give you a place to have
classes (I think).

Schools (except for the state schools) have boards which decide what the
rules for admission will be.  This can lead to a lot of weirdness.
There's a school in Amsterdam for Orthodox Jews who would not admit a
boy who had been raised Orthodox because his mother was not born Jewish.

Other odd things also happen.  I have a Turkish friend who's family is
devout Moslem.  Her sister goes to a Catholic school because the state
school nearby is so full of other Turkish immigrants, and her family
wants her to grow up in her new culture not just a transplanted Turkish
one.

A Dutch friend of mine lives in the south of the country, which is
almost exclusively Catholic.  The only schools where he grew up were
Catholic and his parents didn't want him to go, and his father was
instrumental in setting up a non-religion based school system in the
town (whether it is a state school or not I don't know).

Then, too, there's not just the religious schools, but also things like
Montessori and something called Jenaplan.  In Amsterdam you can receive
a Montessori style education all the way through to the end of high
school.

I think there are two Catholic and one Protestant universities.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:09:52 EDT
From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Regarding Henry
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              Rouvalis" at Sep 3, 92 9:05 pm

>
> 	I don't know what possessed me, but there seemed to
> be no other name for my new fishie.  Thanks, Jim.
>
> Rita

Great name for a fish.  The algae eater in office tank is Henry.  He was
christened a year before Jim recounted the grisly tale of his <human>
namesake.

rashmi
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:05:01 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Where is Ruth Who is She?
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--ggs, are you just now beginning to receive the burped messages from
Ruth's mailer? Once they start, they *never* stop.
Doris
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:33:23 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English Aspiration
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I tried it but kept finding myself "reading" the +'s and -'s as some sort
of cue card to aspiration or lack thereof and thus not pronouncing the
words naturally.  Sometime later today I'll copy the words onto a piece
of paper (without the marks) and try again, making notes of all aspiration.
Will report the results then.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:35:32 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Was Gonna Read
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  What's
> everybody else doing?  Maybe I should log off and finish my book. Bah.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

When I haven't been reading student papers I've been reading the saga of
PCPlus, starring Natalie and Michael.

While reading student papers I kept Hubby company in the den and got
caught up in a re-run of _All in The Family_. In this episode Edith had
answered an ad in a magazine from a couple wanting a friendship with
another "warm and loving" couple.  She was anticipating coffee and pie;
they were anticipating wife swapping.  Hilarious.
Doris
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:51:17 EDT
From:         Elaine M Brennan <ELAINE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Ubi Sunt?
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>Elaine my dear, but you are *never* here, so why would it occur to
>me to ask.  I can tell I'm in trouble now.  Let me assure you that
>you are <always on my mind>.....
>--ggs

I am *always* here ... I just don't always make it obvious (and
sometimes I do -- or others do it for me -- how could you have
missed the "Is Elaine a Bimbo?" thread?)

Elaine, reading/writing a proposal full of things that start <!-- >
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Brother Barbara
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 18:58:36 GMT
Organization: Karsten's Bit Bucket
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WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS) writes:
> John "Andre Marrou in '92" W.

According to a recent issue of "Liberty" Marrou is less than an ideal
candidate for the Libertarian Party.

His past and present quirks reportedly include:

Using his power as an Alaska elected official to have himself
greatly overpaid for a piece of his land the state needed for a road.

Not paying alimony to a former wife for some substantial length of
time.

Taking out a VISA card for personal use and trying to stick his campaign
fund with the bills.

"Romantic liasons" more interesting than those that are claimed for
Clinton and Bush.

--karsten

(Where are those instructions on how to write in "Ren and Stimpy"?)
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:02:05 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A <Word> question
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I had forgotten Doris's Geat question, which I read just before logging
off last night.  I don't know the "correct" answer, btw -- or who would
deem it "correct" on what basis -- except, as Torkel points out, "to
give insecure people the impression that one knows something that they
do not."  It's the same question that arises with other ce- or ge- words.
Because of the general tendency in English to use soft c or g when
followed by i or e, words like "Celt," "Geat," and "gif" are often
pronounced two different ways.  Since most of my students are more
familiar with the basketball team than the Celts of early Britain and
therefore look askance when I say [kElt], I usually point out to them
that either pronunciation is "correct," depending on how far back in
history they want to go.  Sometimes that leads me into a digression about
satem and centum IE languages.  I pronounce Geats with a soft g.  No
particular reason except that I think that's the first way I heard it.
The rest of my Beowulf pronunciations are strange hodge-podges of what
was probably the OE pronunciation and what seems more natural in ModE.
I tend to pronounce the y in Hygelac in the same way I mispronounce the u
in French tu -- more [u] than [y].  But I always pronounce scop as
"shope" (my keyboard won't let me use appropriate symbols there -- sorry).
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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