HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Subject: Re: Problems with SCSI-disk [maybe a FAQ ...]
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:10:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.161514.6359@dde.dk> mbo@dde.dk (Morten Bonde) writes:
>I'm having some problems with linux 0.99 and my SCSI-disk:
>
>	-	I have build a kernel with SCSI support,
>	-	I have set my ST-02 to IRQ 5,
>	-	I have disabled caching and shadowing of video-RAM,
>
>When I boot my system I get the following output on my screen:
>
>... [stuff deleted] ...
>scsi: detected 1 SCSI disk 0 tapes 0 CD-ROM drives total
>sd0:  unsupported sector size 1024.
>scsi: deleting disk entry.
>Please send any answers to mbo@dde.dk - I'll post a summary if I receive 
>any good clues....

	Private mail bounced, so I am posting to the list.  The sector size of
1024 is the problem.  Currently linux only supports 512 byte sectors, although
at some point after 1.0 is out I want to modify the kernel to accept 1024 byte
sector disks.  If anyone wants to try out patches, let me know, and I can whip
something up.

-Eric


-- 
A host is a host from coast to coast.....eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).................................
is busy, hung or dead................................Eric Youngdale
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Linux file systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:17:06 GMT

Greg Wettstein (NU013809@NDSUVM1.BITNET) wrote:

: The first thing the configuration scripts would do would be to call the
: file system checking programs which would in turn check the devices
: status to determine whether or not there was the potential of a damaging
: shutdown.
: 
: If I am overlooking something that already exists I would appreciate a
: pointer on implementing this.  I am re-writing our network's configuration
: scripts and would like to include this functionality so that reboots will
: be handled in an elegant fashion.  Similar functionality can be kludged
: via invisible files and the like but a kernel/filesystem based approach
: has the flavor of a cleaner implementation.  Comments, suggestions??

Most OS's have two things: (1) a clean flag in the superblock of every
filesystem, and (2) a '-p' option (or similar) to do a 'quick 'n' dirty'
fsck, just to check that the FS was unmounted cleanly.  I hacked my XENIX
/etc/rc script to automatically do an fsck if the mount failed.  So, mount()
would check the clean flag - if it was set, mount() succeeded, then cleared
the flag.  If it wasn't set, mount would fail.  umount() set the clean flag.
So, if the OS shut down ungracefully, the clean flag wouldn't be set, causing
the mount to fail.

I think this should be implemented - what's to prevent one from mounting an
inconsistent filesystem?  If one does this, one can *really* screw up their
FS... :(
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177
1935 will go down in history.  For the first time, a civilized nation has
full gun registration.  Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient,
and the world will follow our lead into the future.  --Adolf Hitler
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: fox@cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Freeze up on X
Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences
	<BALASUB.93Jan22093232@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu>
	<1993Jan23.002154.17904@novell.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:38:23 GMT

I think this failure mode is inherant in the decision to allow
allocation of more memory than your combined ram+swap, which I
asked about in my recent message "how does it malloc so much?"
The real allocation occurs when the allocated pages are written
to, and there is no equivalent to malloc returning NULL when
there is insufficient memory to allocate a page.  As many have
noted, there is a lengthy, perhaps indefinite, period of
thrashing followed hopefully by the kernal selecting a process
and killing it.

I agree that Linux' swap policy is less profligate with resources
than BSDs, where every allocated page always has a physical analog
in swap space.  Perhaps a victim process should be selected sooner,
when, say, 30k of swap remains rather than 0?

-david
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: libc.2.2.2 renamed?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 06:31:06 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

corey@amiganet.chi.il.us (Corey Sweeney) writes:

>I got the rzsz files from tsx-11.  when i try to run them it says "can't load
>library '/lib/libc.2.2.2'".

>So i scaned the hard drive and the files dosent exist (i'm running SLS .98) 
>anyway.  Was libc.2.2.2 replaced by another filename?  or am i missing a file
>due to a hole in the sls distribution?

>But more important then that... how do i get it to work?

>Corey

Something you have just learned is true still for a lot of binaries on ftp
sites: They still depend on old libraries. The libc2.2.2 release was back
from 0.95, and is REAL old. I may still have a copy here on a disk, but never
use it.

The best bet for you is to get the source down for rzsz and just compile it.
It doesn't take long, and its a much better practice to get into anyways.

The libc.2.2.2 isn't released with anything anymore, and shouldn't need to be
on anyone's disk.

James
From: dsc3pzp@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Philip Perucci)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ps 99.2 source?
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:44:45 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

I saw in a posting that there is a tar of ps for linux version 0.99pl2.
Can't find it on tsx/sunsite though.  Anyone seen it?

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From: ask1@cec2.wustl.edu (Andrew Scott Koransky)
Subject: NON-FAQ - date: CST instead of GMT?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:08:26 GMT

This question was asked recently, but was left unanswered/misunderstood:

I am having problems with date returning my time in CST vs GMT.  For
example, if the correct time is 23:00 CST:  I would try typing:  
date -s "23:00 CST" and then date outputs: Sun Jan 24 05:00:00 GMT 1993, the
time correctly specified as GMT, but I can't get date to output "23:00
CST".  Is there a way to do this, or do I just have to live with seeing
either the time in GMT or the local time specified as GMT?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gleasokr@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Kris Gleason)
Subject: Re: Working term program for Linux?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:48:29 GMT

I also struggled endlessly with minicom, until I just got fed up.  It was
a nice idea, but too much of an attempt to be user friendly... but at the
same time, too buggy for me to cope with.  Not to upset whoever developed
it... it was just not right for me.

The best success I have had with modem communications is with the Kermit
package.  It has an easy to use script language that allows me to auto-
login to my favorite sites with no intervention, and even receive `fake'
news in the middle of the night.  It also does not mess with terminal 
emulation at all... which means that everything is passed to the Linux
virtual terminals (which emulate vt-100 perfectly.. at least for me).

Of course, it doesn't have a nice windowsey interface, so some may not 
like it one bit.  But it gets the job done without whistles and bells.

If you want the whistles and bells, though, I hear that Seyon is an 
excellent term package... but you've got to be running X, which is an
evil in itself unless you're fortunate enough to have something a little
nicer than a 386sx-16 6MB 256K vga system.

Kris
From: jack@solucorp.qc.ca (Jacques Gelinas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem with lpr/lpd solved?
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:21:33 GMT
Organization: solucorp

gtaylor@jade.tufts.edu (Grant Taylor) writes:

>i'm having the same problems...  i can't for the life of me get it to
>work...  i set all the perms exactly according to the readme, and it
>hasn't gotten me anywhere...  i string|grepped the lpd binary, and the
>only lpd in it is /usr/spool/lpd, so i made a link there figuring it
>couldnt find it and that too didn't work...  

>if anyone as a clue, please tell us what we're missing...  

I have try porting lpd.c from BSD distribution. I have found
this.

There is a bug in lpd.c. The bind system call is not call with
proper argument.

Currently you read:

	bind (..., (SOCKETADR *) &sun, strlen(sun...));

You should read

	bind (..., (SOCKETADR *)&sun, sizeof sun);


I may send binary or source to anyone. My version is not using
syslog however. Ask if you can't get anything better!

-- 

--------------------------------------------------------
Jacques Gelinas (jacques@solucorp.qc.ca)
Maintainer of US4BINR jacques@us4binr.login.qc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: keh5@ellis.uchicago.edu (keith eric hellman)
Subject: DecNET and Linux?
Reply-To: keh5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:11:27 GMT


First and foremost - I've been using Linux way too long now without
thanks to all those responsible for providing such incredibly
awesome OS.  
		THANK YOU. 

I have been using Linux 0.98 and plan to get 0.99 soon, X windows still
won't work on my system but I'm being patient and still trying.  Most 
importantly all my ANSI C code ported without flaw - NO MORE DOS REBOOTING
WHEN I FORGET TO INITIALIZE POINTERS!  JUST A CORE DUMP - THIS IS LIVIN'!

On to the point:

I would like to connect my linux box to an old DecNET system - can anyone
give me suggestions/info/good-humored chuckles re my naive outlook on
such things?

Please respond through email - I will post summary if asked.

Tanx in advance.

keifer
keh5@midway.uchicago.edu
From: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: can't get prompt from dial-in modem...
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:16:32 GMT
Organization: Radio Free Nyongwa -- public unix/usenet in Montreal, 284-6693
X-Advert: Mail/News feeds available -- email postmaster for details.

In article <1993Jan24.193623.23336@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:

>	Now, I saved and re-installed my /etc/default/uugetty.* 
>files that worked under the old version of SLS, with the following
>set:
>
>INIT="" A\p\T\pZ\p\r\n
>CONNECT="" ATA\r CONNECT\s \p ""

You should also have WAITFOR=RING somewhere in the file.

If do, and still have trouble, then enable debugging and look through the
debug file.


>	I still havent' figured out how to read these, so help
>would be appreciated for that :)

Get the manpages and readme from the gettyps archive!!!!!

-- 
Steve Robbins  --  steve@nyongwa.cam.org
Don't know what I want, but I know how to get it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tgc@world.std.com (Terry Carlin)
Subject: Re: Bad blocks (?) on hard disk
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:27:20 GMT

ckurs-2@wilbur.uni-mainz.de (Teilnehmer am C-Kurs WS 1992_93) writes:
: In article <1993Jan26.200529.20973@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:
: |> In article <1993Jan26.190254.3059@sarah.albany.edu> rob@dinner.asrc.albany.edu (Robert D. Seals) writes:
: |> >Hello,
: |> >I just got sls from tsx-11 today, and prepared things and dove
: |> >in to install on my hard disks.
: |> >
: |> >Things seems sensible except that bad blocks on the hard disks
: |> >aren't mapped to a forwarding area. This makes installation nearly
: |> >impossible, since my disks have many bad blocks. Is there
: |> >an 'fsck' on the a1/a2 disks that can locate and deal with bad
: |> >blocks so that I may proceed with installation? If not,
: |> >what am I supposa do?
: |> >
: |> 	mkfs -c checks and marks bad blocks
: |> 
: |> marc
: |> 
: 
: No! It does not, but it should! Seems to me that there is a mistake in the
: interpretation of the error register of the HD controller. The only secure way to
: handle the bad blocks problem is to feed the bad block list to mk(e)fs. That is
: what my experieces with mk(e)fs are ... As soon as I find the error, i will post
: a fix for it. (But i haven't found it yet :( )
: 
: Dominik
:

Well, my experiences tell me it works at least with the 1542
controller.  I just got an old 20 meg SCSI drive which used to sit on
a Mac.  I partitioned it and did the mkfs -c /dev/sda1 20000.  Worked
well.  It found and marked ~15 bad blocks.  To test it out, I tar'ed
a 60 meg disk over to the 20 meg drive until it complained about
running out of space.  I then did a dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/null and
it went without error.  I guess I could really put it through a long
repeating test, but I probably won't put anything on it that would
be critical, 'cause the disk is ~5 years old and may bite the dust at
any sec.



-- 
Terry Carlin
tgc@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kevin@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Kevin Sanders)
Subject: Re: SLS
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:00:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.201506.19400@dgbt.doc.ca> gilles@dgbt.doc.ca (Gilles Gagnon) writes:
>
>... I am afraid that the fact that
>I could get out of xlock and X11 by doing so could lead to a security problem.
>
>I hope I am wrong.
>
Uh, if you have physical access to the machine it does not matter.  You
could just reset the machine if ctl-alt-BS doesn't work.
-- 
Kevin Sanders, KN6FQ                 NCR Torrey Pines
kevin.sanders@torreypinesca.ncr.com    (619) 597-3602
OR kevin@cyber.net
From: ajt@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tony Travis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: PLEASE: info on OAK and X
Date: 23 Jan 1993 00:38:12 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Reply-To: ajt@rri.sari.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: swan.doc.ic.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

david epstein (epstein@nubis.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: [...]
: my most recent idea was to possibly trade my card for my brother's.  He
: does little with it and would be more than content with mine.  I know
: it is an OAK but am not sure of the make yet.  I will be heading home
: to MA from NJ this weekend and will check up on it.  Could someone
: tell me what models are supported by X (if any) and what resolution
: I could expect and what color depth.  Thank you for your time.

Although the Oak chipset is not supported in the current X release it
works ok at 800x600x2 with vga2 generic in Xconfig.  I have a 20MHz
Elonex PC-320X running X386mono under Linux SLS 0.98p4 ok with this
setup:

vga2
  Clocks	25 28 65 45 14 18 40 36
  VideoRam	512
  Modes		"800x600"

ModeDB
  "800x600"	28	800  800  900  912    600  601  603  625

I could only get a stable 800x600 display with the 28MHz clock, but
800x600 is very close to the edge of the screen with this clock.  I
tried just about every method of calculating the ModeDB values using
info from the Oak data sheet (sc, xclk and so on) but I'm using a
'triple-sync' monitor (cf. multi-sync) and it didn't work at 36MHz.

Elonex were very helpful in providing technical info on the Oak chips
but I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has a colour server with
Oak support :-)

	Tony.
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Rowett Research Institute,            |  JANET: <ajt@uk.ac.sari.rri>
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Nice'd users at login?
Organization: Linux
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:49:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.234306.10019@athena.mit.edu> I.P.Morris@southampton.ac.uk writes:
>Ok, Dumb question time again i'm afraid.
>
>I would like to have certain users logged in and automatically nice'd. (It's
>My processor not theirs so i want use of it!)
>
>I tried to put nice -2 /bin/bash as the shell in /etc/passwd but it didn't seem
>to like that idea.

That's because nice is a shell builtin.

mdw


-- 
Matt Welsh, mdw@tc.cornell.edu 
  "Donuts. Is there anything they can't do?"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ruhtra@turing.toronto.edu (Arthur Tateishi)
Subject: Re: Linux using HPFS
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:06:17 GMT

In article <727676295.AA34611@remote.halcyon.com> Derek.Glidden@f42.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Derek Glidden) writes:
>Apologies to the nets if this reply is belated or re-FAQing something I
>
>haven't seen yet: 
>
>The major problem with ANY other operating system using HPFS is that, 
>from what I understand, the actual format/structure of the HPFS is still
>
>(C) Microsoft and they're not releasing any details, except to IBM. 
>
>Now, if someone's hacked the details out on their own, that's another 
>story altogether. 
>

You might try contacting Mark Minasi. The articles he wrote for BYTE had
most of the details. There are probably some fine details needed for
a vfs which he might know or could be reverse engineered.

arthur

Main entry:     Minasi, Mark.
Title:          Digging into HPFS.
                High Performance File System
In:             Byte v. 15 (May '90) p. 109-10+ 0360-5280
Collation:      p. 109-10+ : il.
Subject:        File organization (Computer science).

Main entry:     Minasi, Mark.
Title:          To HPFS or not to HPFS.
                High Performance File System
In:             Byte v. 15 (Mar. '90) p. 101-2 0360-5280
Collation:      p. 101-2 : il.
Subject:        File organization (Computer science).

Main entry:     Minasi, Mark.
Title:          A first look at HPFS.
                High Performance File System
In:             Byte v. 15 (Jan. '90) p. 137-8+ 0360-5280
Collation:      p. 137-8+ : il.
Subject:        File organization (Computer science).

-- 
"The first fact to face is that UNIX was not developed with security, in any
reliable sense, in mind; this fact alone guarantees a vast number of holes."
    -- "On the Security of UNIX", Dennis M. Ritchie
Arthur Tateishi                 ruhtra@turing.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Groff won't do PostScript!  Sob!
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:44:03 GMT


Oh dear...

Just on the eve I have to hand in a major project, I discover
to my epic chagrin that the groff I have can't make PostScript
files.  I'm trying to view/print the man page I just wrote to
accompany the software I wrote beforehand.  Here's my command
line:

$ groff -Tps -man lc.1 > lc.ps

Here's what it says:

gtroff: can't open `DESC'
gtroff: fatal error: sorry, I can't continue

So I look in /usr/lib/groff/font for DESCs and all I see are:

./          ../         devascii/   devdvi/     devlatin1/

...each one of which has a DESC subdir...

This is very unfortunate.  Can anyone assist in finding the 
/devps/DESC's?  


Thanks tons,

cak

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mancus@carla.jsc.nasa.gov (Keith Mancus/MDSSC)
Subject: Re: lfs 0.6 --> "xfs"
Organization: nasa-jsc
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:33:35 GMT

>It does, but there is already an "xfs".  There's a paper in the latest
>issue of the X Resource which describes it.  Here is the abstract...

  How about "lefs", for "Linux Extended File System"?  Easy to pronounce,
very succinct, and clear.

| Keith Mancus    <mancus@cheers.jsc.nasa.gov>                           |
|                 N5WVR                                                  |
From: hagan@freya.cs.umass.edu (Craig I. Hagan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ST-225 HD problems with Linux
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:55:14 GMT
Organization: /users/users3/vis/hagan/.organization
In-reply-to: jsteele@netcom.com's message of 24 Jan 93 19:10:11 GMT


try doing a mkfs -c /dev/???

just a thought...i have mfm drives, also, and haven't had any
problems -- and they DO have numerous badblocks.

-- craig
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: darin@infograph.com (Darin Wayrynen)
Subject: slip & psi.com
Organization: Informative Graphics
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:33:50 GMT


Hi...

I've been hacking on Linux for a little over a month now.

I would like to connect my Linux box up to the internet through a slip
connection.  I'm wondering if anyone has had any experience connecting
Linux up to psi.com through their HOST-DIAL service...
-- 
Darin Wayrynen
Paragon Consulting Group
darin@infograph.com
From: NU013809@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Greg Wettstein)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SYS/V init refuses to run my /etc/rc
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:24:08 GMT
 <1993Jan28.082729.11300@aixrs0.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

I just spent about a week getting the run-level init problem solved on
our network.  Previously we had been using the simpleinit but it was
time to move onward.  Perhaps I can save people some frustration.

I started with the bootsys3 package but moved over to Michael's sysvinit
after about 24 hours of work.  Mike Jagdis is to be complimented on
putting together a nice package but the actual init code needs some
attention.

The first problem is that init will not properly read its inittab file.
This is difficult to notice because the fairly complex system of
initialization files and such seems to mask this basic dysfunctionality.
It took me awhile to figure out what was going on because there is a bug
in the processing of the telinit command options which prevents the user
from ordering a re-read of the inittab file (telinit q).  The actual
bug in the parsing of the inittab file is only about a one or two line
patch.

The proper parenting and establishment of session ID's is another story.
This is compounded by the fact that the syslog code in the 4.2 libraries
does not properly set the NOCTTY flag.  Mike J has fixed this in his
port of the syslogd daemon but the problem still exists in the libraries.
The long and short of this is that you will sometimes end up with getty's
hooked up to the console (/dev/console) and sometimes without any
controlling tty's whatsoever.  I actually stumbled onto this when I
modified the networking daemons so not
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ras2@engr.uark.edu (Richard A. Smith)
Subject: How to work X and S3 cards?
Summary: Problems setting up X and S3
Keywords: S3 X How Help Setup
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:36:59 GMT

I am having difficulty setting up the S3 driver for my machine.  I have a
33/486 with a G-HostS3 plus local bus card.  I have linux .99p5 installed and
it works fine except that I cannot get X to work in the mono mode.  I followed
the instructions in the README to use mono but it does not appear to have made
any difference.  Will someone detail the steps involved in finding,
downloading, and installing the Xfree386 and the S3 driver.  I was not able to
make heads or tails of the various README's and NOTES in the different
directorys that I search to find the S3 drivers.  I am still very new to linux
(about 1 week) but I have lots of SunOS experience. 

Thanxs in advance.
-- 
Richard A. Smith                      | Dont look at me, I'm only in  
ras2@engr.uark.edu                    |    grad school!!
University of Arkansas @ Fayetteville | Disclamer: I'm a college student.
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