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>kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us Kathleen Brewer at The Cutting Edge - Houston


>IMHO, if you want to teach the dog to stay you need to do it while the
>dog is on lead. Tell your dog to sit, then with your right hand, bring
>it palm flat infront of the dogs face and say stay. Keep your lead
>tight so that the dog can not move from the sit position, if the
>dog does try to rise, place the dog back in sit position and repeat stay
>command.

I took the basic class that kathleen is mentioned and it is very helpful. 
She gave you a good synopsis of how the training is done in the class. I
would just add that when the dog moves from the stay position that you are
supposed to put them back where they were.  In other words if they get up
and walk 2 feet forward, don't just stop them there and set them down again,
but back them up 2 feet and put them where they were the first time.  This
helps to get the idea across that they are not to move that particular spot.

Good luck!
From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:58:49 GMT
Subject: Re: Two Siberian Huskys Available
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
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/ hpcc01:rec.pets.dogs / gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) /  4:03 pm  Sep  1, 1992 /
We're looking for an excellent home in which our 2 Siberian Huskys
could romp around at and recieve much TLC. Am hoping it could be
out in the boondocks. It's far more important to us that they are
given free to such a home than it is to just sell them to anybody.

Sasha is a red/white 4.5 year old w/ almond eyes. She's AKC reg as
Red Dawn Ghost from Kritari Kennels in Pacifica, CA. She's spayed.

Keena is a black/white 6 year old w/ one blue and one brown eye. We
saved her from the pound. She's also spayed.

Both dogs weight about 50 lbs each and are healthy. They especially 
enjoy walks and really haul me around! 

Reason for giving up is due to lack of time for them and that isn't
going to improve when my new daughter arrives in November.

Serious private email only, please! We are also willing to let
prospective owners take them on a trial basis and would rather
take them back than let new owners drop them off at the pound.
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NOTE: Both Sibs reside in San Jose, CA. Also, both must be adopted
together as I do not want to break them up. They are like sisters
and shall remain together...broken hearts in dogs in not unheard of 
so it's vital that their mental and emotional sense of well being
remains intact as a new home would be stressful enough as it is.
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Suggestions for Show Awards
Date: 14 Sep 92 07:08:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)

DM>Perhaps some of you have seen some unique and nice awards at
DM>dog shows --something besides the traditional choices of
DM>silver bonbon dishes and coffee mugs with the breed picture
DM>on the mug....any ideas, resources, etc would be GREATLY
DM>appreciated.

Do you have a good pet supply vendor that attends your shows? For
several years we have given $15.00 Gift Cert. for a local vendor. The
reciepents loved it, we were always getting praise for that one. X-Pens
for Group Prizes and a Tack Box for BIS and $100.00 Cash for HIT. For
Jrs. I have given a Jam Box, 35M Camera, something a kid would like for
Jr. Classes I give large decorated tins of Flavored Popcorn. The kids
loved it.
Due to the fact that the Vendor we used is now our Clubs President, we
can't give these prizes has to do with our Constitution. So this year
BOB is a Grooming Apron with club logo. Just realized I have no idea
what we are giving for groups, but BIS is an Electric Igloo Cooler.

Hope this helps.

Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Re: Protective Akitas
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:35:49 GMT


>all commands are discretionary

Yes!  The beloved Akita trait! :-)

Annie was laying on the floor last night when my *forgetful* friend swatted
me with a piece of paper and my dog was up on all four legs in a split
second.  Very impressive.

Consider it a trade-off :-).
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From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: Irregular seasons
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:13:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.173716.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>,
hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu wrote:

>....stuff deleted......
> The problem is that the prospective mother of the litter hasn't gone into heat
> yet!  I'm not sure how old she is (2?), tho I know she's a mature dog.  This
> would be her second season.  She was supposed to go into heat in June and is
> fine physically.  Pat (the breeder) is confident that this dog will come into
> season -- it's just that it's only here 2nd season, so it's kind of
> unpredictable.

No problem....that's part of the reason they earn their title of "bitch" !!
I just went through the same thing with my 3 y.o. ACD bitch...........
She has been a very regular bitch up until now, this time she just decided
to wait until she was darned good and ready (which of course was right
as I decided to "give up" and start entering her for both conformation
and obedience again !!).  She managed to make everything really, really
inconvenient for everyone involved !!

> 
> Does that sound right?
> 

If it is just her 2nd season, she probably hasn't actually "set" a
predictable
cycle yet.  It's kinda like humans.....those first few cycles are often
anything
but regular !!

> My theory is that Julie (the mom) knows that I'm not making a lot of progress
> on my dissertation, so she's waiting to get pregnant until she knows that I'm
> getting close to done and will be able to devote all my non-teaching time to
> the puppy!  (Ok, that's kind of an ego-centric theory)

Yea........that's it  !!  Or perhaps she realizes that you're probably
spending
more time worring/thinking/daydreaming about your new puppy than you are
working on your dissertation !!

Don't worry...she'll be in soon !!  You've obviously picked out the
breeding
you want and now you'll just have to sit tight and wait !!  (I know it's
hard !)
 
> Holly Kruse
> hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu

Now, get cracking on that dissertation !!!!
Kathy
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Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"
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From: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)
Subject: Re: Those pesky anal sacks
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:39:59 GMT

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I TRIED TO DO IT MYSELF...no
luck I never get anything out...and I KNOW they are full because I
know his signs.  Of course, I've never tried digital expression with
a glove like the vet does it...only exterior expression by placing
the fingers at 10 and 2 and pressing in and up..no luck.
Maybe I'll try the surgical gloves technique...the $10/2week is
getting ridiculous...
Dana
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From: rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (r l taylor)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate owners
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:22:34 GMT

In article <8SEP92.14081637@wums.wustl.edu> trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu writes:
>Hello- 
>      A friend of mine has been battleing this dilemma..I thought some 
>feedback from the gang would be good.  My friend apparently has a great
>deal of problems with another family in the cub scouts (or something)
>who consistantly bring their nervous, out of control, untrained
>dobe to scout functions.

I guess the first thing is to determine why they keep bringing the dog.
If they think it's cool to have a bad-ass Dobe, tell them point blank
that he's not allowed.  Blame it on insurance if necessary.  (A valid
point to consider, in any event.)  If, on the other hand, they're
honestly trying to socialize the dog, I would refer them to a good
obedience school.  Actually, I would try to refer them to a good obedience
school in any case, but I doubt the type of person in the former scenario
would listen.  Still, I would try talking to the owners before anything
else.  Their intentions could be good, and they could be just incredibly
naive.  In which case, they need help from someone knowledgable in the
ways of dogs.

I'm the last person in the world to be anti-Dobe, but if the dog is as
bad as you say, this could be a recipe for disaster.  What if one of the
kids accidentally does something that really upsets the dog?  They could
wind up with some serious injuries, and a dog that has to be destroyed.
And the scout group could find themselves facing a nasty lawsuit for
allowing this dog at its functions.

Roberta
...and the DoberPuppies...
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From: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)
Subject: Re: Diamond Dog Food
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:04:07 GMT

I have a friend who tried Diamond with her dogs (weimaraners-2,
Minpin, dobe) and has been very unhappy with it.  She put it in
a large container with a tight fitting lid and when she got to
the bottom of the container it was full of coagulated oily stuff
--she was appalled.  The dogs all gained too much weight on the
recommended feeding amounts.

You know, there is the cheap Diamond 40 or 50# for under $20 and
then there is the premium Diamond which is more expensive by
50%.  I personally wouldn't feed Diamond to ANY dog...but that
is a personal opinion.

I buy and feed my 5 weimaraners Natural Choice Max (puppy for the
2 puppies and adult for the 3 adults).  I wouldn't change for the
world....great coats, weight loss/gain avoided, stools firm and
good color/consistency.  I have found an outlet where I get
500# lots (13  40# bags is the minimum order but the bags can
be mixed as far as any Nutro product)  $23.45/40# of adult 
Natural Choice Max;   $27.35/40# of puppy Natural Choice Max...
and they deliver to my house free of charge.  Great deal...
great food.

Dana
From: jodi@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jodi Peterson)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:58:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

Regarding taking pictures of your pets--I couldn't agree more!

> goodbye to our canine friends.  When our Cocker died last November, I
> remember looking all over the house for pictures of him.  I only found
> a dozen or so.  Pretty paltry for 11 years of the best companionship I
> ever had (well, there is my husband...)
This really hit home for me. My beautiful 8 year old cocker girl died last
night, after battling autoimmune hemalytic anemia for a week.
We took her home from the hospital for one last day with us, and
as I was looking for pictures of my darling I could find only
about 15, and *none* from the past year. So I took pictures
of her yesterday, resting in the backyard, but they're no substitute
for pictures of her when she was healthy and vibrant.

It's so, so sad to say goodbye to my sweet girl.
We spent the whole day with her yesterday, and it seemed to
cheer her up so much to be back in her own home. The vet came
to euthanize her at 1:00, and I was crying so hard I could hardly
see. Brandy sat up and wagged her little stump of
a tail, and my kind vet said "I don't think any of you are ready
for this. I'll come back later. Brandy will let you know when
it's time." So we stayed with her for 6 more hours, talking to
her and petting her, telling her all the wonderful things
we remembered about her. Finally, as the sun set, she began to
weaken. She stopped wanting water, and could no longer lift
her head. She looked at me with such a sad, tired expression,
and I knew it was time. We carried her into the house and laid
her on her pillow in front of the fire. Then my vet came again
and eased her out of her suffering.

I miss my girl so much. She left behind a hole in my life
and heart that will never be filled.   


--jodi "who will always be Brandy's mom"

jodi@fc.hp.com
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From: dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Jack Dean)
Subject: Re: Frightened Greyhound
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:48:37

>>>>> In article <1992Sep10.043531.8611@mccc.edu>, moser@mccc.edu (sue moser) writes:

[story about Greyhound frightened by firecrackers deleted]


Sue,  first of all, congratulations on adopting a retired racing
Greyhound!  You will be rewarded for your patience with a wonderful
pet, believe me.

As far as helping your hound overcome his shyness, I wouldn't worry
too much about it yet.  Yes, you've had a setback with the incident
with the firecrackers, on top of the stress of the recent move only
two months ago.  Your hound has been through a lot, and it will take
some time for him to discover that it was a one time incident, and
won't reoccur every time there is a large group of people.  It will
just take time and patience on your part.  After all, it has only been
two months that you've had Tiger, and less than a week since Labor
Day.

I do have one word of advice in dealing with any timid or shy dog,
however.  You need to make sure that you don't start rewarding the shy
/ timid behavior.  If Tiger figures out that you will always go give
him extra special attention whenever he acts timid and afraid, then
that's the way he will act.  The best way is to ignore him when he is
acting timid, and lavish the praise and affection when he he does
something brave. At first this might just be coming out of his kennel.
As his condition improves, hold off on praise until he approaches a
stranger, for example.

Have patience, Tiger will come around again with time.


--
Jack Dean                         dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: pit bull?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 06:47:53 GMT



>Please excuse my ignorance here.
>Can somebody kindly explain to me the difference 
>between a Pit Bull and a Staffordshire Terrier.


There are two kinds of Staffordshire Terriers:  The Staffordshire
Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier.  The former
is smaller, usually 30-40 lbs, and the latter is larger, 50-65 lbs.
Both breeds were once used for fighting, but they have not been bred
for fighting in many decades.  They are both recognized by the AKC,
and are bred for show and companion purposes.  AKC conformation showing
has had a positive effect on these breeds.  To compete in the ring,
a Staffie must get into the ring with other dogs (Staffs of the same
sex in the breed ring, other terriers in the group ring) and show
no signs of aggression.  He must allow a stranger (the judge) to touch
his testicles without showing any aggression.  He must spend lots of
time on the crowded show floor with grownups, kids, and all kinds of dogs
brushing by him.  If a dog cannot do this, he cannot be shown and therefore
cannot win.  If he cannot win, he cannot breed.

The "pitbull" or American Pitbull Terrer (APBT), is recognized by the UKC
(the United Kennel Club, the AKC's only major competition).  They vary 
in appearance and and size much more than the Staffordshire terriers.
APBTs are usually between 50 and 80 lbs.  Some of them are still 
bred and used for fighting, which is illegal.  
 
The American Staffordshire Terrier is often mistaken for a pit bull.
They are very similar in appearance and size.

I have never met a dog of any of these breeds who was not a nice, friendly
dog.  I know there are mean pitbulls out there, but I think they are mean
because of the way they've been treated.  I have a female Staffie Bull
and a male Am Staff (and a male German Shepherd).  They are all sweet
dogs and even my mother, who is afraid of dogs, loves them and is not
afraid of them. 


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Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion reigns."
Intergraph Corporation                                  
bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum

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From: smm1@troy.cc.bellcore.com (michelson,steven)
Subject: Monmouth County Kennel Club Dog Show
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: nj
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 03:04:14 GMT

Does anybody in NJ (I hope this post was limited to NJ - I used a nj
distribution) know when the Monmouth County Kennel Club will be holding
its annual show in Freehold? I know it's around this time.

Thanks,

_______________________________________________________________________________
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From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: Climbing Dog -- Please Help
Keywords: german shorthair pointer climbs chain link fence
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:32:12 GMT


I had a similar problem, and solved it by stringing an electrified
wire around the top of my fence.  The wire, brackets, and fence
charger unit cost about $50 total.   It took me about an hour
to install it (this includes attatching the brackets to the fence,
stringing up the wire, mounting the charger box indoors, and running
the hot wire to the fence and the ground wire to ground).  My yard
is 110'x55'.  Most feed stores stock the entire apparatus.

My jumper dog needed to touch the wire only once, and she has never
tried to jump the fence again.  I touched the wire myself to check
it out, and I can see why she hasn't come back for more.  I think
it is more humane to let the dog touch the wire once and not jump
anymore than it is to restrict the dog's movements.  I usually leave
the juice off now.

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Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion reigns."
Intergraph Corporation                                  
bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum
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From: richg@hatch.socal.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Life Magazine on puppy mills
Summary: puppy mills
Organization: Hatch Usenet and E-mail.  Playa del Rey, CA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:27:47 GMT

Just came back from a trip to the dentist.  While waiting, I was reading
the Sept 92 issue of Life Magazine.  They have a good article condemming
puppy mills.
-- 
                
Rich Greenberg - N6LRT - 310-649-0238 - richg@hatch.socal.com
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From: martin@lib.utk.edu (Peggy Martin)
Subject: Re: RE: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Organization: University of Tennessee Library
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:25:29 GMT

In article <9SEP92.17193198@wums.wustl.edu> trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu writes:

       OH Has anyone out there had a portrait taken with their dog?  I
>don't mean the Santa and doggie picture but a real studio-serious picture.
>A friend of mine did once-I thought it was sorta weird at the time but I'm
>considering it for our first professional portrait. Oh yea- I mean dogs
>that are pets only- not the show dogs etc where I can see a need.
>Beverly
>Wash Univ. Med School, St. Louis, MO

	My mother's only Christmas present request was a portrait of each
child's "family".  Naturally, since my dog was my only family at the time,
I took him to the photographer's studio.  JC Penney took the pictures, I had
to let them know ahead of time that a dog was coming in.  They would only 
allow up to a certain size.  (I have a Shih Tzu, no problem)  Since they were
busy that night, we had the studio to ourselves for about fifteen minutes.  
That gave Dusty time to get used to the setting.  We had our pictures taken
together, and his taken alone.  He was a complete ham and posed beautifully
with a santa hat on his head.  The photographer took 6 poses of the dog and
2 of us together.  My mother was horrified when she received her gift, but it
now has the center spot on her "portrait wall".  She also has several of the
dog alone and carries them in her wallet to show off her grand-dog!

				Peggy
				martin@utklib.lib.utk.edu
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From: mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening)
Subject: Re: Help!
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:53:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.133728.26305@cas.org> sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine) writes:
>	Can any of you terrier people out there help me? (or for that matter,
>anyone who's had a similar problem) My 5-month-old Norfolk terrier has just
>started to refuse to walk on lead! She will only move in a direction chosen by
>her, not one chosen by me. This started only a few weeks ago. I'm assuming that
>is has something to do with adolescence. I've tried food, little "pops" on the
>leash, calling her, toys, and even her favorite - the fake mouse! Although its
>possible to drag her (she only weighs 9 pounds), I don't feel that this going
>to accomplish anything. I want to show her in breed at a match on Sept. 20 and
>her breeder will be showing her at Montgomery (the big terrier show) on Oct. 4.
>	I've only trained a Siberian and golden retrievers before, so I'd really
>appreciate insight into the terrier mind. Thanks in advance for your
>suggestions!
>
>********************************************************************************
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>ems: sla54@cas.org |          CH Delmar's Trivial Pursuit CD, WC (Reg. with TDI)
>********************************************************************************
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>********************************************************************************
>
Sandra,
You don't say what kind of collar you are using.  During basic obedience training
my cocker spaniel decided that he did not have to do anything I said,  this included
heeling in the right direction at the right pace, down, and even sit.  I was
completely amazed when I took him to the trainer and Beamer, my dog, defiantly
disobeyed even him (he had never done this before) and chose to take even the
toughest collar correction with the standard choker rather than do what he was told.
This started, by the way, after the first week of trying to teach him a long down.
At the suggestion of the trainer, we switched to a prong collar which horrified my
wife.  However, it worked miracles.  He was very afraid of the collar at first and
it took some acclamation time but now he wears it quite a bit and he responds with 
the slightest snap of the lead.  I thought this was extreme for a small dog but
they (the trainers) didn't think so as long as I learned how to adjust my corrections
to the collar.  Just a thought.

			--Michael Buening
			internet:mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu