From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Subject: Welcome to alt.tv.infomercials!
Followup-To: alt.tv.infomercials
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Reply-To: sean@freds.cojones.com
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:11:00 GMT

My apologies for taking a week to post this.  This site still refuses
to acknowledge the existence of this newsgroup, I've been busy, etc.
etc.

alt.tv.infomercials is an unmoderated newsgroup which was proposed to
alt.config on 13 October.  After much fighting with a certain news
admin, it was finally newgrouped on 12 November.  So here we are.

If you are reading this in another newsgroup and do not currently have
alt.tv.infomercials in the active file at your site, please ask your
news admin that this be done.  Oftentimes, this is a key factor in
determining the propagation of a newsgroup.  As well, the efforts
undertaken by the aforementioned certain news admin may have already
had effects on the propagation of this newsgroup, so your voice is
crucial in seeing that this newsgroup survives and thrives.

Now, onto the information about this newsgroup.  Rather than try to
write something up from scratch, I will simply include the texts from
the original proposal and the newgroup message.

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alt.tv.infomercials
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Yes, I will admit it, I've become an infomercial junkie.  For the
benefit of those of you who live in caves, infomercials are half-hour
paid advertisements for products and services, usually presented under
the guise of being talk shows, and usually airing late at night on cable
TV.  Topics which can be discussed here are the production values and
comedy values of the shows, the merits of the products being advertised
and anything else that's relevant.  I don't know if misc.consumers or
rec.arts.tv already cover the ideas that this group would cover, though.
Maybe someone could let me know about that.
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From: root@freds.cojones.com (Frederick J. Polsky)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.infomercials
Subject: newgroup alt.tv.infomercials
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:49:07 GMT

alt.tv.infomercials is an unmoderated newsgroup which was proposed in
alt.config on 13 October.  There were no objections to its creation.
With that in mind, this newgroup is being issued for its creation.  For
your newsgroups file:

alt.tv.infomercials     Discussion of product "info-mercials"

alt.tv.infomercials is a newsgroup for discussing (and possibly even
flaming) the merits of infomercials, which are half-hour paid 
advertisements for products and services, usually presented under the 
guise of being talk shows, and usually airing late at night on cable TV.  
Topics which can be discussed here are the production values and comedy 
values of the shows, the merits of the products being advertised and 
anything else that's relevant.

This newgroup is being issued by the news admin here in the interest of
seeing propagation at those sites which only honor newgroups issued by
site admins.  However, queries for information should be directed to the
proposer of the group, Sean Ryan <asspr@acad3.alaska.edu>.
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While I doubt that this newsgroup will ever receive enough traffic to
warrant having to do this, you might want to consider putting
qualifiers into your articles so that people can use kill files to
filter them out.  For example:

ROSS PEROT: Were those charts cheesy or what?

BIG GREEN CLEAN MACHINE: Is Mary Ellen Pinkham a cow or what?

[add smileys to taste re: the above]

I am archiving this newsgroup, and will continue to do so until it
becomes too much of a burden on my time/resources/disk space/whatever
else.  However, don't expect me to become a regular participant until
I am able to get my own feed of the newsgroup.

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Sean Patrick Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan *** This account is expiring soon;
please direct all e-mail to sean@freds.cojones.com - thanks! *********
Oh, and did I ever tell you how much I want to fnord you?  :-) *******
Newsgroups: alt.tv.infomercials