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From: zinkin@acsu.buffalo.edu (David R Zinkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: HyperCard, ATM and 7.1 (Was Re: System 7.1 = $$$)
Summary: HyperCard 2.1 isn't completely 7.1-compatible
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:31:07 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: UB

Just thought I'd clarify a couple of things, based on information I
obtained from Claris, Nine to Five Software, and Adobe...

First, HyperCard 2.1 is not *completely* compatible with System
7.1; it will work with no problems as long as you do not change the
date format in the corresponding Control Panel.  Use the default
format for displaying the date, or you'll find that HyperCard-based
software that uses date-sorting routines will get screwed up or even
crash.  Nine to Five Software informed me of the problem, since it
affects their "9 to 5 Office" package; when I asked Claris when the
problem would be fixed, a Claris rep said, "It's not a high priority;
who'd want to change the date format, anyway?"  I don't know, maybe
the international users who buy 7.1... :-)

Anyway, there's actually another reason to stick with ATM 2.0.3 other
than the fact that 3.0 costs another $7.50; if you use a DeskWriter
(any model) and TypeAlign with ATM 3.0, you'll get garbage on your
printouts from TypeAlign, although all other applications will still
print with no problems.  Solutions?  Stick with ATM 2.0.3, don't print
from within TypeAlign, or wait for the upcoming SuperATM, which Adobe
says will fix this bug.

 -- Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Hacking a Font Folder Manager
From: Manuel Veloso <veloso@husc9.harvard.edu>
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:44:52 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University
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X-XXDate: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:49:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.120555.17499@husc3.harvard.edu> Manuel Veloso,
veloso@husc9.harvard.edu writes:
>Then, configure EM to recognize 'LWFN', 'ffil', and 'FFIL'. Voila! you've
>got a font manager that not only does sets, but is a cdev & can be
>used @startup. How 'bout that?

After trying this out, it seems that the extensions manager has a problem
with large numbers of items in its window, resulting in the death
of its set capability. This is with about 137 items or so. Also, the
fonts don't get opened/closed by the system until your next reboot.

Oh well.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Help! Macwrite Spellchecker Crashes
From: sna@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu (Stewart Abramson)
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:16:19 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Can anyone help me?  I have a mac 2ci and 2si both with system 7 and the
same inits etc.  The problem is that the Macwrite II spelling checker
crashes on my 2ci but the same files are spell checked OK on the 2si.  I
have reloaded the Macwrite from my 2si to the 2ci and checked the 2ci with
SAM virus detector and norton disk doctor, but that doesn't help.

I am despirate (and I can't spell).

Stewart
sna@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu
From: jonwd@uwtc.washington.edu (Jon Wiederspan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: TextEdit, International Scripts and others....
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:04:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov17.170407.14461
Organization: Technical Japanese Program
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X-Xxdate: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:02:26 GMT
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In article <jenkinsj-101192100039@tseng.taligent.com> John H. Jenkins,
jenkinsj@blowfish.taligent.com writes:
>> > Nisus gives every appearance of rigidly using the Script Manager.  I
>> > have never had any problems in handling any of the nasty non-Roman
>> > scripts with it:  Hebrew, Chinese, Japanese, and so on. 
>
>> 	   Standard Nisus (3.05) does *not* handle Arabic. Like many word
>> processors (MS Word), it will display the Arabic, but does not allow
>> editing the text once typed. E.g. a full sentence is considered a
>single
>> word, and the cursor does not know where it is, mixing up
>left-to-right and
>> right-to-left directions. There is, however, a special version, Nisus
>> International, that does accept non-European scripts and adds some
>features
>> to handle them. It costs about $450, no rebates (and is copy protected
>with
>> a dongle).
>
>Weird.  Nisus 3.06 works fine with Hebrew, which is also right-to-left
>(to the extent that I'm competent to test it, at least).  I wonder why
>it has problems with Arabic.  

Nisus does try it's best to use Apple's international capabilities.  The
word I've
had is that Nisus has been holding back a new release that fully exploits
the Text Services until Apple releases 7.1; we should be seeing it any
time soon.
From: cvadsadm@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 24-bit color on an LC II
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:15:15 GMT
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadsadm

In article <1992Nov18.162842.15520@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mazen Mokhtar) writes:
>   I just bought a Performa 400, aka LC II. The sales rep told me that there is
> no way to get 24-bit color on the P400. Is that correct?
> 
>   In case there is a way to get it, what hardware do I need? Do I need VRAM?
> 
>   I have enhanced Apple 14" Monitor.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mazen Mokhtar

because of LC2's little power supply, i think no add on 24 bit video card exist
for lc2.

but apple will have LC3 in Feb 93(according to macweek). It should support 16
bit on you 14 inch. upgrade you mac then!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mgb@csn.org (Michael Barton)
Subject: Re: Changing default editor from teachtext to Word
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: csn.org
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 15:58:19 GMT

In article <27693@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, lapeyre@oasys.dt.navy.mil (J P
Lapeyre) wrote:
> 
> I've looked in FAQ for this and didn't find it...I've even done this
> before but forgotten how.  What do I need to edit in the system file
> to replace ttxt with MSWD? E-mail or post is fine.
> JP
> 

There is a Shareware control panel called DefaultApp which works great.

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From: zot@groucho.csd.uu.se (Thomas Ljungberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: AppleShare 3.0 security hole
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:51:40
Organization: Computing Science Dept, Univ. of Uppsala, Sweden
NNTP-Posting-Host: groucho.csd.uu.se
In-reply-to: tinsel@uiuc.edu's message of Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:21:13 GMT

In article <BxtK7G.4o5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel) writes:
&
&  arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru) writes:
&  > There is a security hole in the AppleShare 3.0 password scheme.
&  > Suppose I am a user (or even if I am not) on an AppleShare server,
&  > but don't have administrator privileges. The following procedure will
&  > enable me to assign them to myself and thus have future access to all
&  > folders on the server.

&  > 1. Turn off the server.
&  > 2. Move the Users & Groups Data File file from the Preferences folder
&  >&   within the system folder to the root level of the system folder.
&  > 3. Open the administrator application. The administrator will allow you
&  >&   to set a new administrator password.
&
&  This isn't a security hole in AppleShare, it's a security hole in your
&  site.  If everything was layed out correctly, the server would be locked
&  in a room where you couldn't get to it.

Indeed physical access to the server should be resticted, but the Admin
password is an extra security measure. Without it, a user who managed to
get physical access to the server for just a few minutes could change
his/her privileges permanently. If the procedure descibed above actually
works, the purpose of having an Admin password is lost.

&                                           At the very least, its floppy
&  drive should be locked so you can't boot into the Finder and do this sort
&  of stuff.
That will have no effect for AppleShare version 3.0. You don't need a
floppy to get to the Finder there. Just click on the desktop...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jshea@eng.clemson.edu (john mark shea)
Subject: Drivers for Apple File Exchange
Reply-To: jshea@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:59:00 GMT

Are there binhex or macbinary drivers available for AFE?  I haven't been able to 
find any here at school, and they would be extremely useful to me.  Please email me
if you know the answer.  I am very sorry if this is a FAQ, but it is important that
I find out, and right now I am too busy to search for an answer.

						John



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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 10:15:47 MST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Font Problems w/System 7.1
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Keywords: 7.1 Fonts
From: parkj@bones.et.byu.edu (John R. Park)

In article <lwwarpup.722449940@vela> lwwarpup@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Lonnie W. Warpup) writes:
>Has anyone else had any problems with they way the fonts are ordered in
>applications?  Since switching to System 7.1, any of the new fonts that
>I have installed do not appear in alphabetical order with the other
>fonts when listed with programs such as Font Clerk and Font Printer.
>Some of them are arranged OK, but most of the new fonts just get added
>to the end of the list.  Is this particular to 7.1, or does this have to
>do with the problems that programs like Suitcase were supposed to fix
>(i.e. Font ID conflicts...)?
>
>-L. W. Warpup

I sometimes have this problem too, but darned if I know why.

-- 
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parkj@bones.et.byu.edu     |  Brigham Young University
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru)
Subject: AppleShare volume won't go away
Reply-To: arie@eecs.umich.edu
Organization: AI Lab, The University of Michigan
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:48:34 GMT

I have a Mac Plus running system 6.0.8 connected to a Mac IIci 
running System 7.0.1*. Without any applications open (immediately 
after startup) I mount the Mac IIci's hard disk as an AppleShare
volume on the Mac Plus's desktop. Once I do that the AppleShare
volume won't dismount (if dragged to the trash it will reappear
on the desktop). I can't figure out why and how to remedy the
problem.

I'll entertain any and all suggestions.

Thanks,
--


Arie.

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From: 2db5schraba@vms.csd.mu.edu (Aaron Schrab)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: HELP! Finder won't load
Date: 18 Nov 1992 06:35:31 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2db5schraba@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

HELP!!!!
 
A friend of mine and myself were trying to set up an Appletalk network between his IIsi and my LC, and after we had established file sharing his IIsi crashed.
 
When he tried to restart his Mac got as far as the desktop and the Finder's menubar, but no icons. The menubar then goes away for a little while and the watch cursor appears, after a little while the menubar reappears, but still no icons. This the repeats itself. Below is a list of things that we have tried. He is running 7.0.1 with TU 1.1.1.
 
Tried:
1) Startup with extensions off.
2) Rebuild desktop file.
3) Startup from Disk Tools.
4) Reinstall system software.
 
Any ideas about what could be wrong?
 
Thanks in advance.

********* Aaron Schrab *************************************************
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mwang@pierre.mit.edu (WANG, MARK)
Subject: Re: System 7.1 General Controls - No desktop color!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:33:00 GMT

Are you using Desktop Textures?  I think that will remove those color boxes 
in the General Controls for 7.0-7.1.  The way to get those boxes back is to
install the "Control Panel-Compatible" desktop from Desktop Textures, then
go back to General Controls.  This may not be your problem, but it's the
only thing I have run across.

Mark
-------------------------
Mark Wang	MIT Laboratory for Nuclear Science
internet: mwang@mitlns.mit.edu
From: wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu (ray wilmott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Performas and 7.1
Keywords: necessary?
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:43:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Quick question : will System 7.0.1 work on a Performa 600, or
do you *need* to use 7.1 with it?



		Someone fearful of System upgrade bugs,

							Ray
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: har1@cec2.wustl.edu (Hasnol Abdul Rahman)
Subject: Linking SE/30 with Classic II
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:55:27 GMT

I have a question for you all out there. I want to link a SE/30
with Classic II. What is the best way to do so? I just want to
transfer files from one another. Buying 2 of those AppleTalk
device ($25 each) is a waste of money. I would like to use
a male/male cable similar to those used by Imagewriter which
only cost me $4. Since I want to link only 2 computers, my brain
said that I can do so. Am I right? 

Don't ask me to try it out. I just want opinions

Thanks in advance.

p/s: Both macs are using 7.0.1
From: jrf@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Backup systems
Date: 17 Nov 92 10:46:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

I am looking for a backup system for our macs (either mac to unix or
even mac to mac). I already know about the Macintosh to Unix Dump System
from the University of Utah. Are there any other systems which might
be worth investigating ?
Apologies if this is a recurring topic but I don't read this newsgroup
often through lack of time and cannot find anything on the FAQ.

				John Firth
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: 1-800 number for Apple 7.1 upgrade in Canada?
From: guelzow@brandonu.ca
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:18:41 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Nov11.192721.26356@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, afry@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Alan R. Fry) writes:
> In article <92316.104135CADER@auvm.american.edu> CADER@auvm.american.edu writes:
>>What is the 800 number for the system 7.1 upgrade.  I couldn't find it
>>in the FAQ or in announce.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> The special number to order the System 7.1 upgrade is:
> 
>                              800/769-2775
> 
> The personal upgrade $34.95 (plus tax & shipping)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alan
Does anybody know what the corresponding number for Canada would be (and the
Canadian price for this upgrade) ?

Thanks, Andreas

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Guelzow@BrandonU.Ca
From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System-7-Pack  vs.  SpeedyFinder7
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:00:44 GMT
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: jonesbb@mentor.cc.purdue.edu's message of 17 Nov 92 03:28:35 GMT

In article <BxuCBo.MIy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jonesbb@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Brian R. Jones) writes:

>      I have now seen two control panels that appear to do the same thing.
>SpeedyFinder7 and System-7-Pack both adjust the finder by speeding up the
>copying process as well as other "enhancements".  Is there a major difference
>between the two or is one better than the other?
>

Well, SpeedyFinder7 is neat, and does a lot more than just speed up
copying, but it does seem to be a bit flaky, at least in conjunction
with NU 4.0.1 -- for instacne, choosing balloon help no longer behaves
reliably.  I suspect this is part of the new "Helium"-type
functionality in the latest SpeedyFinder7.  It's still not stable
enough for me to use, but it has *lots* of nice features...


jas
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: owen@olympus.arc.nasa.gov..arc.nasa.gov (Owen S. Nishioka)
Subject: Re: This random, weird noise
Organization: Nasa-Ames Research Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 05:17:27 GMT

In article <ERICT.92Nov20163157@Fairview-Heights.ascent-west.uucp> erict@ascent-west.uucp (Eric Tiffany) writes:
>
>[reposted due to news screwup - sorry if you've seen it]
>
>This has happened several times now, so I'm not hallucinating.
>
>At any random time, although very infrequently, my PB170 will play a
>glissando (rapidly rising series of tones) and display this in the
>upper right corner of the finder bar (to the right of the application
>icon): 
>
>                  _     _
>                   |   |       (sort of a cup -- magnified 3x)
>                   |   |
>                   -----
>
>And when I press a key, the little thingy disappears and it plays a
>slightly slower glissando *down*.  If I don't press a key, it plays
>the sound anyway after about 10 seconds.
>
>I wonder if I've caught something.
>
>******* Anybody have a clue? *******
>
>Here are the particulars of my machine:
>
>PB170/40Mb  System 7.0.1 with TuneUp 1.1.1
>Bookview Imperial (color card) with 6Mb (makes 8Mb total)
>PowerPort Silver
>Asante SCSI Ethernet 
>MacTCP 1.1 
>NCSA Telnet 2.4 (running)
>AppleSharing a filesystem on a Sun running CAP60/AUFS
>
>Extensions and Control Panels:
>
>Disinfectant INIT
> Asant EN/SC
>AppleShare
>Billminder
>DAL
>Desktop Reset
>EtherTalk Phase 1
>EtherTalk Phase 2
>Global Village PowerPort
>Global Village PowerPort;pulse
>GlobalFax
>LaserWriter
>MacTCP Tool
>Network Extension
>PowerBook Tuner
>System 7 Tuner
>
> BookView 1.07
>3-Button Power
>AutoDoubler
>BeHierarchic
>Fastback Plus Autostart
>MacEnvy
>MacTCP
>MountImage 1.21
>PowerPort
>Pyro!
>SuperClock!
>WindowShade
Easy Access.

	  I take it you forgot that one.  Sounds like you have it
installed.  It turns on when you press the shift key five times, and is
meant for people who cannot press two keys at once.  (caps lok, shift,
control, option, and combo's thereof.)  Just take it out of the cp
folder and it should fix your prob.


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From: jtarr@husc8.harvard.edu (Jeff Tarr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7.1 = $$$
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:57:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.jtarr.722296668

In <1992Nov20.012130.3727@pro-freedom.cts.com> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes:


>System 7.1 requires you to upgrade virtually all your software, as most
>things will not work properly, or are just plainly incompatible with 7.1,
>including Publish It Easy 2.9, Illustrator 3.2, Ready,Set,Go! 4.5a,
>HyperCard 2.1, Most CD-ROM drivers, Scanner Drivers, Monitor Drivers,
>Printer Drivers, (all non-apple of course), MacLabelPro, After Dark, ATM
>2.3, OnCue II, Adobe Type Reunion, Adobe Type Align, MacPaint, MacDraw...

I am running 7.1 and have had no compatibility problems.  I use all of the
software you mentioned except Pulish It, Readt Set Go, and OnCue II. ATM
2.3 works with 7.1 if you place the postscript files in your extensions
folder - not your fonts folder.    


>Seems Apple does not feel $99 for the software upgrade is enough, and also
>wants you to have to pay $$$ for third party upgrades too!  Out of 50 some

It costs $35 if you are upgrading from System 7. $99 is the price for the
whole upgrade (presumably from Sys 6). 


>Dave
>==============================================================
-- 
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Harvard University
jtarr@husc.harvard.edu
-- 
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Harvard University
jtarr@husc.harvard.edu
From: trial@magma.geol.ucsb.edu (Alain Trial)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Word 5.0a subscribing to PICT + EPS?
Date: 19 Nov 92 05:04:27 GMT

In <722019067.25950@minster.york.ac.uk> rod@minster.york.ac.uk writes:

>Does anyone out there know if Word 5.0a can subscribe
>to editions in PICT+EPS format that are published by,
>say, Adobe Illustrator 3.2?  I've tried this and it
>doesn't seem to work - the picture looks OK on 
>the mac, but prints as PICT (nasty chunky bitmap kinda
>look) instead of using the EPS - anyone got any clues
>on this?  Can work 5.1 do it?

>Setup is a mac Powerbook 100, system 7.01 + TU 1.1.1,
>Word 5.0a.

>Thanks in advance, 
> Rod Chapman
> rod@minster.york.ac.uk

I use FreeHand 3.1 instead of Adobe Illustrator and have seen the same kind
of problem.  Microsoft technical support confirmed that Word 5.0 has a problem
printing editions that were published in EPS format.  They suggested 
creating the publisher in PICT format, instead, and it has worked flawlessly -
somewhat to my surprise.
--

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Alain Trial
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: maarten@fwi.uva.nl (Maarten Carels)
Subject: Re: Linking SE/30 with Classic II
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:44:22 GMT

johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.144029.17608@husc3.harvard.edu> mcrae@husc8.harvard.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Nov19.085527.12367@wuecl.wustl.edu>, har1@cec2.wustl.edu (Hasnol Abdul Rahman) writes:
>>> I have a question for you all out there. I want to link a SE/30
>>> with Classic II. What is the best way to do so? I just want to
>>In Steven Bobker's article in the "Bridges" section of the October '92
>>MacUser, he says that "what is sold as an ImageWriter II connector cable"
>>will do the trick. I guess it makes the same pin-to-pin connections as the
>>LocalTalk or PhoneNet connectors would. 
>Wrong.  An ImageWriter II cable running between two macs will function
>as a null modem connector, letting the user link the machines over a 
>serial connection (ie, two terminal apps, etc.).
>
>Localtalk cables are wired differently, and have fewer pins. 
>The connector boxes contain terminating resistors that 
>automagically work when only one device is connected.  It's a 
>different setup for a different purpose.
True, but when using ONLY TWO NODES it will work. So, when connecting a single
mac to a (AppleTalk) printer, or just two macs together, it will work.
Don't say it won't, I've used setups like this many times.

--maarten
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In real life:	Maarten Carels
		Computer Science Department
		University of Amsterdam
email:		maarten@fwi.uva.nl