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From: brian@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Fennimore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: USA vs Spain Results???
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:57:15 GMT
Reply-To: brian@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Fennimore)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Jul31.071908.7094@Princeton.EDU> ethchen@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edwin T. Chen) writes:
>
>Anyone know the results of the match with Spain last night?  Only
>caught four games of it.  Thanks!
>
>Ed

Yes. USA beat Spain in 5 games. They basically traded sideout/points in
the 5th game until it was like 8-8. The US team rallied to finish it off
at 15-11. 

Brian
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From: msmit@cs.utwente.nl (Michel Smit)
Subject: Re: Japan vs. USA/ Cuba vs. Holland 
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:27:30 GMT

It is a shame the USA lost the game against Japan this way. Instead
of giving the second yellow card, the referee should have given him
a yellow and red card thus sending him out of the field for the rest
of the set. This way timmons would have been punished personaly
instead of the whole team. 

Its time the 1st refs learn to listen to the 2e ref and the
line refs instead of making own calls. How can a good referee watch the
top of the net and at the same time see the ball spiked out ??
Although i have seen some very bad calls this olympics, players also 
behave badly. If you have seen Cuba - Holland you know what i mean. 
The Cuba players  gave the world a course 'how to shout to the referee
constantly and get award for it by getting a lot of dubious points'.
It is a good thing 'we' will beat them in final.
(sorry USA team but i don't think you make it this time)


Lots of fun with the rest of the games.

Michel
 
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From: oski@leland.Stanford.EDU (L. Ravi Narasimhan)
Subject: Re: What I think Fred-bo (Sturm, the USA coach) should do
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 02:10:33 GMT

In article <l7bp6jINNedf@pollux.usc.edu> cluck@pollux.usc.edu (Carlos L. Luck) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.033944.4736@leland.Stanford.EDU> oski@d31mf0.Stanford.EDU (L. Ravi Narasimhan) writes:
>> [...]
>>I also found it very ironic that it was a Brazilian ref who yellow
>>carded Samuelson.  His countrymen have to be amongst the worst, if not
>>the worst, trash-talkers in volleyball.  And there is no love lost
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>between USA and Brazil.
>
>Could you please elaborate on your last point? Is it just an act of
>insanity on your part, motivated by the rage of having lost
>a game, or you happen to have something concrete against Brazilians
>(including myself) and the way we talk and play volleyball?
>
>You better think twice before offending people for free.
>
>-- 

Looks like I neglected a couple of important words in my original post.
I have seen the Brazilian National Team play a few times on tv over the
last few years and I have spoken about international vball teams with
some current and former USA team members.  It was my observation that
the Brazilian players did a lot of talking across the net and taunting.
Ths is what I mean by "trash-talking."  This impression was corroborated
by the others I mentioned.  From the NBC footage I saw, what Samuelson
did was not out of line with what I have seen in other international
matches. 

"Rage at having lost a game"?  I think not.  The U.S. is not playing
well and I believe that was the first thing I mentioned in my post.
Although it is regrettable they lost due to an appeal, it certainly
isn't the end of their tournament and they had better bust a move unless
they want to get their butts kicked by the Cubans and Italians (should
they get that far.)

Sorry for any misunderstanding.


					--- Ravi Narasimhan
From: alee@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: AVP Tour
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:58:53 PST

In article <1992Jul21.131438.8830@ncsu.edu>, nacsjwb@acsprod1.acs.ncsu.edu (Jim Busch) writes:
> 	Does anyone happen to know the AVP tour schedule for the rest 
> of the summer?  More specifically, are they going to be anywhere near
> North Carolina (maybe Myrtle Beach?) this year?  I moved here from San
> Diego last winter, and am discovering that it's a bit harder to find 
> these things out down here.  Thanks  - Jim.


Jim,
    The AVP schedule for the erst of the year is:

July 25-26  Grand Haven, MI
Aug  1-2    Milwaukee,WI
     8-9    Cleveland,OH
     14-16  Seal Beach,CA
     21-22  Santa Cruz,CA
     28-30  Hermosa Beach,CA
Sept 10-12  Santa Barbara,CA (World Invitational)
Oct  ?-?    Daytona Marriott,FL (King of the Beach)

Sorry none of them are close to you.
That's all,
            Alex
From: rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: USA vs Spain Results???
Date: 31 Jul 1992 17:33:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: crashnburn

In article <1992Jul31.071908.7094@Princeton.EDU> ethchen@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edwin T. Chen) writes:

Anyone know the results of the match with Spain last night?  Only
caught four games of it.  Thanks!

Ed

Ed,

The US men defeated Spain about 15-12. Samuelson kept his mouth shut, and
picked a cherry!  NBC had a brief interview with one of the players-he
had been on Fortune's case all night; guess he's tired of being Mr. Nice
Guy and is going to be Mr. Nasty. It looks like its working!

Too bad NBC only shows 2-1/2 games or so of the 5 game matches.  If I had
cable, I'd get triple cast, as they've cut the price in half (I might have
gotten cable, if that had been the original price).

Rick

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From: scott@bell.b17a.ingr.com (Scott Bell)
Subject: Re: Japan vs. USA (spoiler, ruling)
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:05:19 GMT

In article <Bs21up.F15@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu) writes:
|> After pondering the protest for several hours this morning, a ruling
|> committee has awarded the match to Japan.
|> 
|> What a mess.

       It was very ugly. I thought the US would get it's act together.

|> 
|> In any case, the top 4 teams from each pool go to the playoffs, and
|> the top teams in the US pool were thought to be the US and Italy.

      Where do the individual pools now stand? Is the US completely out,
      or were these prelim games?
|> 
|> Albert
|> liu@cerl.uiuc.edu

Get Vertical!
Scott
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From: liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Japan vs. USA (spoiler, ruling)
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:01:36 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

After pondering the protest for several hours this morning, a ruling
committee has awarded the match to Japan.

According to the NBC coverage, the up ref said that it was his mistake.
He did give Samuelson another yellow card but then realized that it would
be a red card and saw that the score was 14-13 in favor of Japan.  He
didn't want to end the match that way, and there was some doubt in his
mind whether he had given Samuelson another yellow card in the game.
(The rules that NBC showed said that two yellow cards in the same game
is an automatic red, etc.; I don't know if that meant "match.")

Basically, everyone agrees that the ref shouldn't have let it come to
this.  There's some question about the "technical legality" in the
filing of the protest, but, supposedly, a protest was filed at the time;
it was just not written down until later.

What a mess.

In any case, the top 4 teams from each pool go to the playoffs, and
the top teams in the US pool were thought to be the US and Italy.

Albert
liu@cerl.uiuc.edu
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From: scott@bell.b17a.ingr.com (Scott Bell)
Subject: Re: Under the Net & Out of Bounds
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:26:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.214753.11172@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Eric.J.Baumgartner@dartmouth.edu (Eric J. Baumgartner) writes:
|> In article <GEOFF.92Jul22130637@wodehouse.flash.bellcore.com>
|> geoff@flash.bellcore.com (Geoffrey Clemm) writes:
|> 
|> >    On the other hand, I have played USVBA tournaments where they
|> >    explicitly said "going into the adjacent court at any time is a fault".
|> > 
|> > This has nothing to do with playable areas, this is just Rule 9, Article 6:
|> > "Contacting the opponent's playing area with any part of the body except
|> > the feet is a fault.  Touching the opponent's playing area with a foot
|> > is not a fault providing that some part of the encroaching foot or feet
|> > remain on or above the center line."
|> 
|> No, I said adjacent court, as in "the next court over" or "the other
|> pool". Not the court of the opposing team. I hate this rule because it
|> usually applies even if there is no match being played in the other
|> court, and really limits a good defensive team's ability to chase down
|> balls.

    That's what GOOD passing prevents, no? This rule almost forces you to
    pass/retrieve the ball in an orederly manner rather than passing out of
    your court and running around schizophrenic-like. You should save the
    schizophrenic-like action for the spikes. ;) ;)

|> 
|> Of course, then there's playing in YMCA gyms that are so small they say
|> "first row of bricks up the wall is in" and let you serve from 6 feet
|> within the court. Or where the the curtain separating two courts is so
|> close that anyone with an outside approach slips or gets tangled. Might
|> as well be wallyball...

     At least you don't ram heads with the people in the adjacent courts...
     I have a kudos about short courts like you do - short serve, anyone? ;)
|> 
|> Eric Baumgartner                   *  ebaum@dartmouth.edu
|> Interactive Media Lab              *  - When in danger or in doubt,
|> Dartmouth Medical School           *      run in circles, scream and
|> shout.

   Get Vertical!
   Scott
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From: tomp@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Tom Parker)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:01:27 GMT
Subject: Re: bouncing the ball/time before serve
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball

In rec.sport.volleyball, robp@landru.network.com (Rob Peglar) writes:

>The current FIVB/USVBA reserve rule(s) are a little complex.

They sure are.  What are they trying to protect against?

tom parker
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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: USA/Japan Women-RESULTS
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:58:01 GMT

In article 22965@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com, tomoo@hpmctt.mcm.hp.com (Tomoo Taguchi) writes:
>Just a few thoughts on the Women's game vs Japan.
>
>I thought Weisoff was awesome.  They kept using a play where she would
>run behind the setter and hit a back one near the right antenna while
>the middle hitter faked.  I don't remember a time when she was block or
>dug.  It went down every time.  Also, I thought Kemner had a good game.
>Perhaps not great for a woman considered to be the best female player in
>the world, but I thought she got the job done.  From the commentary on
>the Triple cast, Zutterland (who grew up and played in Japan, but
>married and American) was put in to break her into the olympics and
>possibly to work out jitters caused by playing against former teammates.
>I thought she did a creditable job.
>
>The whole match was really tight.  The only game where one team
>dominated was the fourth game where the US won 15-8.  The scoring was
>really streaky in that one team would rack up 4-5 points, go into a
>slump, and let the other team catch up.  In the fifth game the US was up
>by 3 or 4 points and let it slip away.  At least it isn't the medal
>round.
>
>Just my $0.02 worth.
>
>Tomoo


Agree on all front except for one, Yoko Zetterlund is single and it is her
father who is american.  She lived in the US when she was very young.  Not sure what
happened with her family, but she grew up in Japan.  I can see why Liskevych
liked her so much now that I have seen the match.

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From: slansky_doug@macn15.rtsg.mot.com
Subject: Re: US Mens Team
Organization: CSG Group
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:48:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.145913.89597@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>
ugoni@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>Can anyone give me a list of the USA's mens team. Obviously Karch isn't
>playing, what is the reason for this?
>
>Antony
>
>
Karch decided not to play after his new son was born, earlier this spring. 
Methinks he is enjoying his summer on the pro beach tournament (and making $$$)
and staying closer to home.

Team names:

Bob Ctvrtlik (outside hitter)
Scott Fortune (outside hitter)
Steve Timmons (opposite hitter/backrow hitter)
Doug Partie (middle hitter/backrow hitter)
Bob Samuelson (middle hitter/backrow hitter)
Jeff Stork (setter)

Reserves include:

Dan Greenbaum (setter)
Carlos Briceno (outside/opposite hitter)
Nick Becker (outside hitter)
Brent Hilliard (outside hitter)
Eric Sato (defensive specialist)

Injured Reserve (as of Japan match)

Brian Ivie (middle hitter)

Regards,

Doug
From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: USA/Japan, bad TV coverage
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:16:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: wuecl.1992Jul28.171645.1176
Distribution: usa
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew

In article <1992Jul28.155516.11590@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kaabrown@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (kathy ann brown) writes:
] I thought the TV coverage stunk too.  I can't believe NBC thinks a 
] travelog is more important.  Isn't this the Olympics or what?
] 
] Katie
I too dislike watching these side-stories. But, I think you must
realize that NBC wants people just like you and me to buy the
triplecast. I think it's a pretty good incentive! But there are
plenty of pluses and minuses that have already been discussed.
BNC wants to lure the non-sports people with its public broadcast,
and the sports fans with its triplecast.

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From: kaabrown@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (kathy ann brown)
Subject: USA/Japan, bad TV coverage
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:55:16 GMT

I thought the TV coverage stunk too.  I can't believe NBC thinks a 
travelog is more important.  Isn't this the Olympics or what?

In regards to refs, I think the guy on top needs glasses.  

As for play... the USA had some good plays, but I didn't think their
passing was consistent.  While Japan has alot of good ups.  

I am not a very experienced player, so I'd like to ask you veterans how
do you dig a spike like these you see at this advanced level?  I've
digged up some good ones, but not half as strong.  Are they using a pancake or do they actually get underneath? 

Thanks!

Katie

 

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From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: Myrtle Beach Jose Cuervo
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:12:25 GMT

   Myrtle Beach Jose Cuervo.

   Call (803) 626-6672 and ask for Stu Ryan. He can probably help you.
If you need an entry form, I'd call the main people at (203) 348-7039.
These are the people that are running the whole thing. 


                                            - Drummer -
From: droes@carina.unm.edu (steven roy droesndylniir)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Beach Rules
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:35:26 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I have hopefully a quick question regarding beach rules.
I am assuming that they hold for grass doubles as well.

The question is this-- Can a player use his feet to pass the ball
in two man beach or grass volleyball?  Also if there is a 
reference to a rule book it would be helpful since there
is a heated discussion going on about this.
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From: slansky_doug@macn15.rtsg.mot.com
Subject: Re: USA vs. Japan (update on prior post)
Organization: CSG Group
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:02:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.135352.6757@news.iastate.edu> A1.KAK@isumvs.iastate.edu
(TRAVIS MCGEE) writes:
>>
>>Japan filed the protest _after_ the match. International rules
>>state that the protest must be filed _immediately_ from the
>>time of the point in question, or it is invalid. A committee
>>will meet Monday morning to decide to do one of the following:
>
>  The late word is the committee picked 2, protest upheld, match
>overturned, Japan wins."  Sorry USA, not much you can do with
>bad refs.
>
>                                   - Kevo -
>                       Be good and you will be lonesome" M. Twain
>
So,

What did Samuelson do to deserve the 2nd card?  And while you're at it, what
happened to Ivie?! It looked like he stood up from a squat and grabbed at his
knee.  Any word on if he will return?  IMHO, if he doesn't, the US is in
big-time trouble!

Doug
From: Eric.J.Baumgartner@dartmouth.edu (Eric J. Baumgartner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: USA vs. Japan (update on prior post)
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:26:16 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Jul27.060436.6421@wuecl.wustl.edu>
gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_) writes:

> More news on the protest:
> 
> Japan filed the protest _after_ the match. International rules
> state that the protest must be filed _immediately_ from the
> time of the point in question, or it is invalid. A committee
> will meet Monday morning to decide to do one of the following:
> 
> 1) No change, USA wins.
> 2) Protest upheld, match overturned, Japan wins.
> 3) Protest upheld, match continued as a replay of the point in question.

The protest was upheld; Japan wins, 3-1. In a letter to the "deciding
council" (or whatever you want to call them) the head ref took full
responsibility for continuing play after presenting the second yellow
card.

NBC went every which way trying to place blame, but IMHO, once you've
been carded, you keep your mouth shut for the rest of the game. Tough
beans for us.

That had to have been the craziest match I've ever seen.

Eric Baumgartner                   *  ebaum@dartmouth.edu
Interactive Media Lab              *  - When in danger or in doubt,
Dartmouth Medical School           *      run in circles, scream and
shout.
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From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: USA vs. Japan (update on prior post)
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:04:36 GMT

More news on the protest:

Japan filed the protest _after_ the match. International rules
state that the protest must be filed _immediately_ from the
time of the point in question, or it is invalid. A committee
will meet Monday morning to decide to do one of the following:

1) No change, USA wins.
2) Protest upheld, match overturned, Japan wins.
3) Protest upheld, match continued as a replay of the point in question.

The US team has it in their favor that a protest has never lead to
a match overturn in international play. NBC will give an update
to the situation early Monday morning.

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From: jxr1092@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Jens Rodenberg)
Subject: inconsequential net hits?
Reply-To: jxr1092@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:22:44 GMT


   In the USA vs. Japan match, a USA pass went long and almost under the net,
but was recovered by the setter, after which it appeared that the setter hit
the net.  Is it OK to hit the net in such a situation where it doesn't really
matter, or does the ref just suck?

						Jens
From: terri@f81alpha.Berkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Rule book????
Date: 20 Jul 92 16:03:58 GMT
Reply-To: ...@ibmpa.austin.ibm.com:terri@f81alpha.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division


  
 

> The big difference I know of is that is pro doubles, a block counts 
> as a hit (and you only have 2 left), but in amateur, after a block 
> your team still has three hits.
> 

This varies depending on what rules your local tournament coordinator
uses.  When I played in New Mexico, they followed AVP rules very 
for all levels.  The only variations for each division is how tight
the setting was called.  B divisions general got away with a lot, where
A and open divisions had to have perfect (almost) sets.

 

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My opinion and mine alone.
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From: ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba)
Subject: Wanted: Mikasa's Address
Reply-To: ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 02:48:35 GMT

If anybody has Mikasa's address, please let me know. I need it because
of a faulty ball. thanks!

-Mike

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