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>soc.culture.hongkong / jfl@mojave.eel.ufl.edu (Yu-Fung Liu) /  9:43 pm  Nov  3, 1992 /

>I am not sure about what Deng agree on. It seem to me that He said "nothing
>will be changed for 50 years". Since the Bristish never gave us political
>freedom except social freedom such as the right to visit night club...etc.
>It is very easy and happy for him to promise at that moment.
>Every ruler in world would prefer HKese characters and willing to
>keep them in the same old way.
>The fact is that we are asking him to change to break his promise. 
>Do you think he will appreciate these kind of change especially most of
>us insist openly that we don't like him or his government?
>Do you think he would agree to share the power with someone who always
>enjoy to be his enemy?
So far so good.
>Look! It is the same thing everywhere. For example, president Bush doesn't
>like the US congress and the US congress doesn't like Bush.
>Do you think Bush and the US congress can share power to help each other?
Yes, sometimes if both of them can benifited.

>Why do you think it will be better to lean to the Bristish who just
>use us as a chess?

What made you assumed that CG does not use us as a chess?

>How much you did to make Chinese richer than before?
When I get rich first. Look, nobody intends to help US get richer (maybe I
should say that in the 40s), but US got rich when most US people got richer.

>How much you did to protect Chinese when they suffer a external threat from
>Japan, US(in Korea, 50), Soviet(Northern China, 60), Vietname(80)?
>Did our "dear MASTER" help chinese to fight against invasion and robbery?
>Unfortunately, our dear Master commited the same crime against us many years
>ago and still now.
Why should they? 
When you get in politic, there are no right or wrong but does it benefit you.
Should you blame the people who came to hong kong in the 50s, 60s, 70s leaving
their country in millions?

>Before you claim a forign king is better than a chinese ruler, you
>want to find out what is your constribution to your own land?
Living in a foreign land does not stop him contributes to his own homeland.
Without the so call borrowed land, Qing would not be overturned so easy. How
many founder of the ROC or PRC safe in HK or these borrowed land. For them at
that moment, the foreign ruler was certainly better. And I can say that, for
most of the HKer during the culture revolution, British ruler was better.
Don't forget to put the time and place.

>Before you claimed the life of a "slave" is better, please look at the life
>of the "slave" during 20,30,50,60,70,80,90. 
First of all, slave of where? Certianly the life of a "slave" in Hong Kong is
better than the life of most of the free men in north east Africa. Would you
like to exchange with them?

>HK will have a democratic government sooner or later.
I hope.
>But I am tired of being the chess of Bristish. 
Me too.
>We, as HK chinese desire the respect of being a human, not a chess.
But, everybody is a chess of somebody etc. When you tell your mate to buy
you a coffee, you are using him as a chess.


>What the hell all of these has to do with HK?
>Who care! These is not the system we are going to use!
>Beside, it is the government which is corrupted in China.
>But it is the special interest group which is corrupted in HK.
>Does Miss A, B, C and "one chicken one building" sound new to you.
>How much effort our "dear master" spend on all these.
>It doesn't bother you that more and more chillren become the gangsters.
>It doesn't bother you that more and more teenage work in the "fish-ball market".
>May be all of these doesn't bother you because you are not going to 
>live in HK for the rest your life.
>But all of these does bother me!!! 
>To be honest with you! I don't trust the Bristish if they never concern
>all of these!!!
I am not quite sure what you are saying. If "One chicken per house" upset you.
Go to visit Allan (sp) street in NY. Does US police do nothing about these
girls (and boys) because it is not their country. There is thousands of these
"One chicken per house" here in London, if it existed because it is not the
country of the ruling party? Come on, these thing existed because the ruler
obey the law themselves. I think if they did happen in China (not now, but
say 20-30 years ago), they would be shot or sent to labour camp. But tell me,
how can you define a chicken from a bad girl has many boyfriends.

>I see! It is legal to rob people as soon as they are "low quality"!!!
>       It is legal to slave those people as soon as they are "low quality"!!!

>In the conculsion, It is legal to slave anyone as soon as they are "low quality".

>P.S what so called "quality" in your eyes is only power! 
>----------

I don't like the British Government and their way handling HK. But in this
case, I must support the action of Chris Pattern. To success, we must catch
every chance we have. This is the chance we should not missed. China has missed
a lot of chance by her own imposed principle. I don't like Deng, but I think
his theory, "who care it is a black cat or white cat, whatever can catach a
rat is a good cat". Sorry, he is still preferred a communist cat.

Yuk
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