HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Killing background processes on logout
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:03:49 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep1.233959.10014@athena.mit.edu> hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com writes:
>| 
>| In comp.os.linux you write:
[note --- I can't attribute this, since hammond didn't]
>| 

[some irrelevant stuff deleted]

>| >So, I stand (sit) corrected.  I now fully share the belief that the csh does
>| >not kill background processes on exit.  Thank you everyone for helping me
>| >to see the light!  :-)
>| 
>|     No problem.  :-)  The man page for csh would have done it quite some
>| time ago, actually.
>| 
>
>Not necessarily so ... I fired up the man pages on my csh at work (SunOS) and
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>they did not mention it.  Of course, I don't have the man pages for the linux
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>tcsh, so that may be where I've gone wrong!  :-)
>

FLAME ON:

Learn to accept, Kevin, that you are as likely as anyone
to be wrong at every turn.  From the csh(1) manpage of
SunOS 4.1:


     nohup [ command ]
               Run command with HUPs ignored.  With no arguments,
               ignore  HUPs throughout the remainder of a script.
               When given, command is always run in  a  subshell,
               and  the restrictions placed on commands in simple
               if commands apply.  All processes detached with  &
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
               are effectively nohup'd.
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

     notify [ %job ] ...
               Notify the user asynchronously when the status  of
               the current, or of specified jobs, changes.





Sun Release 4.1    Last change: 2 October 1989                 19


FLAME OFF

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: aboyd@quantum.on.ca (Andrew Boyd)
Subject: Re: Ethernet drivers
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:31:34 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software Systems

In article <1992Aug28.114807.7765@athena.mit.edu> cmetz@thor.tjhsst.edu 
(Craig Metz) talks about how it would be nice to support the 3com503 and
3com 505:

Actually, the 503 is very similar to the wd (now smc) 8003 series of
cards - both use the 8390 NIC.  If you folks already have a driver for 
the 8003, you won't find it too big a job to support the 503 - just 
different locate and init code.  The runtime code is identical.

The 505 is quite different, though - it has a 186 cpu on board, and a 
totally different interface than the 503.

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Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 1992 13:40:26 -0400 
From: Frank T Lofaro <fl0p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: X dying

	Whenever the X server dies (without shutting down properly first),
keyboard input appears to go nowhere from thereafter. A user can hose
the keyboard by starting X and then kill -9'ing the X process. What is
needed is some way (maybe in the kernel) where if X dies badly, the
screen and keyboard are restored. (i.e. an automatic release of
resources used by a destroyed process, preferably right when it becomes
a zombie). On the decstations here, kill -9'ing X makes the screen go
back to normal very quickly. Yeah, I know kill -9'ing an X server is
rude, but a user might do it (or have to do it). Also, if X seg-faults,
or  can't start due to a bad/missing mode line or something, it will
also hose the display the same way kill -9 does.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Re: GWM under X11
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:46:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.144250.176@news.uwyo.edu> bills@news.uwyo.edu writes:
>Excuse me if this doesn't turn out, it the first time.
>
>How do you get the GWM window manager to run instead of the
> TWM????

Wouldn't a Gay White Male window manager take a bit of AI research?

It gives a new meaning to falling in love with a window manager :-)
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From: shamus@eskimo.celestial.com (Jay Mottern)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux support BBS- what happened?
Keywords: Summary
Date: 30 Aug 92 02:56:55 GMT
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-


First, thanks to everyone who responded. Here's a quick summary of
non-Internet Linux support:

The Linux Support BBS 508-793-9568 does indeed work. You have to
connect at 2400, then hit enter a zillion times to get a login prompt.

Two other kind people offered the use of their BBSes as sources of
Linux-related files. These are the  Unix User BBS, 708-879-8633
(no info given on modem speed, etc.) and the Digital Underground,
812-941-9427 v32bis,v32,v42bis,v42. A third person isn't ready to
go public as a BBS yet, but sent me email offering me dial-up access
to his Linux box to get files.

Zane Healey (healyz@holonet.net) maintains a Linux BBS list, which 
should be available in alt.bbs.lists. It mentions some commercial
on-line services (GEnie, Compuserve, etc.) that have at least some
Linux files, and that you can also get them from most Fidonet BBSes.

Lastly, the MegaFAQ (recently posted here) explains how to ftp for
files via e-mail, if you don't have direct Internet access.

After all this, I've discovered that I do have Internet access through a
system at work- I just had to start asking questions and find the right
person to talk to (you have to use a particular path to get past our
own private company Ethernet onto the Internet).
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jrs@world.std.com (Rick Sladkey)
Subject: Re: ghostscript/ghostview errors
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:07:33 GMT

>>>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:53:46 GMT, jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu
>>>>> (Jean Liddle) said:

Jean> Both ghostview 1.3 and ghostscript 2.5 (from
Jean> gatekeeper.3com.com) compiled flawlessly under linux 0.97.1 and
Jean> gcc 2.2.2.  (linux 0.97.1 was installed over the SLS 0.96
Jean> installation).  When trying to display some files, such as
Jean> "cheq.ps", "chess.ps", and one of the linux logos, I get the
Jean> message "Dynamic memory exhausted." in my xconsol.  Does anyone
Jean> know how to prevent this from happening?  Is there a workaround
Jean> or compilation option I may have overlooked?

The first thing I would check is that you have included stdlib.h in
the files with the malloc calls.  Linux malloc returns NULL when
malloc(0) is called and this confuses many programs into thinking all
memory is gonzo.  See the GCC FAQ for details.  BTW, this is the same
problem that causes olvwm to abort when trying to use various menu
functions.  Either recompile using stdlib.h or change the malloc
return check to "result == NULL && amount != 0" or somthing similar.
--
Rick Sladkey
jrs@world.std.com
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: apologies, but I still need a little help
Date: 4 Sep 1992 04:57:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu




Sorry for all my whining while trying to install GCC, but my file systems
were getting really cluttered and I was getting frustrated.

SO.......I remade the file systems and reinstalled mtools and started over.
Here is what I have:

2 64MB Linux partitions   (/usr mounted to one)
1 8MB swap partition

in my root dir.

0971inc.tar.Z
2.2.2ddb.tar.Z
2.2.2dg1.tar.Z
2.2.2dlib.tar.
2.2.2dmisc.tar
bin
binutils.tar.Z
dev
etc
faq.gcc
home
install.2.x
lib
mnt
readme
release
tmp
usr


NOTICE THE TRUNCATED FILE NAMES.

According to FAQ.GCC, README, and 2.2.2d.release, I have everything I need
here in the rot dir. I put the kernel sources under /usr/src/linux and I even
went ahead and uncompressed and untared 0.97pl1inc.tar.Z (aka0971inc.tar.Z on
my drive) and put it in /usr/src/linux.

Now the docs say execute the following command, which fails and I get
the following error message.

sh install.2.x -v 2.2.2d /usr/src/linux

:command not found
'yntax error near '()
'nstall.2.x:5: 'kernelstuff()


So now I ask, what do I have to do??? I want to install GCC the "right way"
but it never works. The process I described in a previous post
"WANT GCC??? IGNORE README AND FAQ. READ THIS FIRST!!!!" worked
and gave me a compiler of unknown performance.

SO NOW I ASK, NOW THAT I HAVE FOLLOWED ALL THE DOCS, WHAT SHOULD I DO?????
I appreciate any info that you can send.


 
-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis      "There is no middle ground/Or that's how it seems/For 
Thieves Like Us        us to walk or to take/Instead we tumble down/Either
mal11@po.cwru.edu      side left or right/To love or to hate."
					-A Strange Kind of Love
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: QIC 40 / QIC 80 ?
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:56:14 GMT

   From: billp@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Bill Parquet)
   Date: 3 Sep 92 17:49:18 EST

   I've seen a lot of discussion about this.  The people who were working on
   that for 386bsd complained that the timing requirements were extremely tight
   for running qic 40/80... At least too tight for a multitasking environment.

   If it were really necessary, I'd much rather have a tape backup program that
   ran in some sort of exclusive mode than nothing at all.

This reminds me of the mini-cassette tape on VAX 750's that were
typically used to bootstrap a 750 before an OS had been loaded on its
hard disks.  That tape drive didn't have DMA, nor any buffering, so you
got an interrupt for each byte that you wanted to write to the tape.  If
you wanted to write a new bootstrap tape, the only way it would work is
if you did it in single user mode, with no other processes running.
Even running the /etc/update daemon would cause the write to fail.
Fortunately, you very rarely (if ever) needed to write a new bootstrap
tape; but when you did, it was a very painful process.  :-)

							- Ted
From: lynch@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tom Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS: don't laugh now but...
Date: 29 Aug 92 08:17:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: flubber.LYNCH.92Aug29031702
	<LYNCH.92Aug27004052@flubber.cc.utexas.edu>
	<hfaester.714917185@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
In-reply-to: hfaester@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE's message of 27 Aug 92 12:06:25 GMT


>I miss especially Larry Wall's famous perl in the programs...

yeah, thats an important one, I'll add it to my wish list.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: duzan@slagheap.cis.udel.edu (Gary D. Duzan)
Subject: Re: GNU kids on the block?   (sorry... couldn't resist)
Keywords: Linux, GNU, FSF, Mach, single-server, volunteer
Organization: Your Organization Could Be Here!
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:48:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.123854.26792@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller) writes:
>roland@prep.ai.mit.edu (Roland McGrath) writes:
>>The GNU Project would like to find a volunteer to work on a
>>single-server for the Mach 3.0 microkernel based on Linux.
>
>QUESTION:  What exactly *is* a "single-server"?
>
   A monolithic entity to implement Unix services. The Hurd splits Unix
into a number of processes.

>[...]
>>Since AT&T's lawsuit, we can no longer rely on using BNR2SS, the
>>single-server based on the Berkeley Networking 2 release.
>[...]
>
>I thought the GNU Hurd was supposed to be a UN*X look-alike *itself*.
>This sounds very fishy, folks.
>
   One goal is binary compatability with BSD, so it might be called a
look-alike, but it also will have its own non-Unixy (or super-Unixy)
way of doing things. I don't believe there is any Berkeley code in
the Hurd, and there is certainly no AT&T code. One intermediate plan
was to use Berkeley networking code in the Unix emulator, but that
appears to have changed. (I haven't read the original article.)

                                   Gary D. Duzan
                                   Network Administrator
                                   Delaware State Hospital



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From: cmb@bluemoon.rn.com (Chris Bugosh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ESDI Drives
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:11:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: bluemoon.0H90PB1w165w
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])

What ESDI drives and controllers has Linux successfully been installed
on?

Chris

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From: ericy@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS is awesome and getting larger
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:11:43 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Aug26.125143.17176@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> fh8n@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Frank Houston) writes:
>Hello linux hackers
>
>I have just finished installing the SLS distribution of linux 
>over the weekend. Congratulation to linus and the authors 
>of sls. You guys give hackers a good name. The points is 
>SLS is now 15 disk and growing to morw than 20. Time to 
>go CDROM. On that subject DAK sells a CDROM with controller
>for $199. I alspo received a compuadd catalog on Aug 20
>that has a Cdrom and card for $169. So the price isn't 
>as steep. I know that there is a SCSI cdrom driver in development
>, but they seem a lot more expensive. 
>	
>	$150 for the Adaptec board supported.
>	$250 for the cheapest scsi cdrom.
>
>How about the linus community agree upon one of the minimaly 
>priced cdrom unix about and create drivers it. This would
>create a defacto common linux cdrom drive.
>

	I feel that I should warn everyone that DAK is in Chapter 11.
For those of you overseas, this means that they have filed for protection
from their creditors because they are unable to pay all of their bills, 
and Chapter 11 means that they want some breathing room so that they can
(hopefully) get things reorganized and get their cash flow situation
under control.  The upshot is that it may take a long time for you to
get any merchandise, and if they really go belly-up, you may never get
your merchandise.  It would be wise to pay by credit card if you purchase
anything from them.

	The CDROM code that exists for linux now can be neatly divided
into two parts.  One part is the SCSI code to read the drive, and the second
part is the filesystem.  The filesystem itself should work with any block
device, and in principle one could have the iso9660 filesystem on a hard disk
or a floppy disk.  The only device specific code in the filesystem is
something to check and see if the disc has been changed, and this currently
tests for major==11.  The filesystem itself calls a function in the SCSI CDROM
code to actually determine if the disc has been changed or not.

	The upshot is that all you would need to do is come up with a device
driver for whatever type of interface is being used.  The problem is that you
need to know how to program the interface, so if it is proprietary you might as
well forget it.  Also, I would want to make sure that a secondary
device/interface is actually becoming a standard before it would make sense to
try and support it.  If each of these really cheap drives all use a different
interface, I would suggest spending the extra money for a SCSI drive.

	Some people have guessed that some of the cheap CDROM drives out there
are actually on an IDE bus (this guess is based upon the connector), but
I have not heard anything definite.  I do not know if a IDE(?) CDROM can
use the same controller as the hard disk.

-Eric
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Swap files (was: Re: .97 kernel and root disk/probs with swapping)
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:34:12 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Sep1.083154.5064@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
>In article <bjl.715328078@freyr> B.J.Lippolt@research.ptt.nl writes:
>>
>>On the subject of swapping. 
>>
>>Would it be possible to implement a scheme (a la SunOS) where you can 
>>'add' swap files to the swap space? E.g. I have a 8Mb swap partition, and 
>>when I need more (which happens once in a while) I just create a swap 
>>file and add it to my 8 Mb swap space. Would this be a minor (i.e. I
>>can do it myself) or a major change?
>
>It wouldn't be too hard: right now swap-map numbers are 31-bit entities,
[ explanation on how to implement it deleted ]

Ok, don't implement this: I already did it, and the (minor, as promised)
changes will be in the next patch.  I'm currently running linux with two
different swapfiles, and it accepts up to 8 different files (and up to
128 after changing a single #define and recompiling).  I haven't
implemented "swapoff()" yet, but I guess that too will be implemented
today.

		Linus
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wayne@ita.lgc.com (Wayne McCormick)
Subject: pboot and msdos fs
Organization: Landmark/ITA Inverse Theory and Applications
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:20:18 GMT


First can someone tell me how to use pboot to change a bootimage to boot from
the HD?

Second, I have 0.97.1 installed and I can mount an msdos file system.  And as
I've read before I can mount and read FROM the dos disk.  However I cannot
write TO the dos disk.  Is there a fix for this?

Thanks,
Wayne
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                                 | Phone:(403) 269-4669
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William A Jones)
Subject: Where (and what) is libobz.a??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:12:09 GMT

I am trying to do some compiling of X11 programs (xdvi, olvwm, and the
like).  All of the makefiles provided call for libobz.a.  It was
not included in my X11 version 1.1 release (xbase, xprogs, and xextra).

WHere is it??  Do I really need it?

Thanks,

Bill
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: UUCP/news
From: system@kryton.UUCP (Scott Beckstead)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 02:21:12 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

Hi all,
   I am intending to set up my bbs running linux.  I am currently running
waffle under (yech) DOS I need to know where to find UUCP and NEWS software
preferably C-News as that is what I am most familiar with having installed it
on my sun2 sun3 and ISC unix box.  I have never had to deal with installing
UUCP software (though I have had to configure it on the sun2 (smail and 
sendmail) So what is available.  I have no FTP access but I can get to the
(rather expoensive) services like compuserve (they have little linux stuff) 
and genii (better but not great) and bix.  I have seen more stuff on bix but 
my access is rather shaky.  Also the (very expensive) uunet uucp archives
are accessable.  I have been running linux since 0.10 so I'm reasonably 
competent about setting that part up though the last kernel I compiled 
was 95c.  I have seen SLS mentioned but not where it is could some kind 
souls out there please send the data (mail unless YOU think this stuff
is required by all).  

SYSOP: Paradox Alley  F&SF BBS and Usenet News/Mail 
805-492-8789  The Place For Science Fiction and Fantasy
"Spin My Nipple Nuts and Send Me to Alaska!"

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lair@ellis.uchicago.edu (Scott A. Laird)
Subject: Header Problems.
Reply-To: lair@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:25:29 GMT



I managed to mangle my /usr/include directory.  Could someone with a working 
copy of 0.97 pl1 /GCC 2.2.2d tar up a copy of their directories (/usr/include,
/usr/include/sys, etc) and send them to me.  Please send email first, I really
only need one copy...

Scott.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdw1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Problem with 0.97 rootimage /etc/termcap
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  1 Sep 92 22:12:13 GMT

/etc/termcap on the rootimage-0.97.1 has some problems, specifically,
my down arrow key doesn't work in vi, and spaces are repeated.
Could someone mail me the /etc/termcap from the mcc-interim
release (at least 0.96c) so I can fix this? Or else give me a fix
to make my keys work okay. I nuked my old /etc/termcap before
replacing it with the one on the 0.97 root disk.... grr.

BTW, rootimage-0.97.1.Z on sunsite.unc.edu is corrupt. I sent
mail to our buddy Jon letting him know.

mdw
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: oren@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Oren Kastner)
Subject: Re: Using patch
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:50:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.102118.16754@klaava.Helsinki.FI> wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:

[useful stuff about how to patch sources with `patch' deleted]

>........................................  Also, I usually do
>
>	find /usr/src/linux -name '*~' -print | xargs rm
>
>to get rid of the backup files patch created.

and if you don't have xargs, you can always use:

	find /usr/src/linux -name "*~" -exec /bin/rm -f {} \;

>
>(How did I learn all those tricks?  I RTFM. :)
>
>--
>Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi

Why am I posting this?
			  Why not? :-) !!

			Ok... now back to your regularly scheduled Linuxing...

-- 

Oren Kastner                           E-mail address:

Brandeis University                    oren@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
From: ramirez@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Online FAQ and Feature list
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:50:30 GMT
Organization: NYU Medical Center, New York, NY 10016, USA

Hello all,

	I really like the idea of an Online-FAQ, but I also feel that a list of
features will make Linux more attractive.  I would be more than happy to put a
list of features together with an explanation and some examples, advantages and
disadvantages.

	What does everyone think?

Edwin
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux