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From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Road tip #3 (Spare key)
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:22:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1540
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

> marct@vax2.concordia.ca (MARC A. TISSEUR) writes:

>>      Consider taping a spare ignition key on a hidden part of your
>> frame or inside your fairing in case you lose your main key.


blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

> Please also consider mentioning the make & model of your bike, city of
> residence, and work/shopping/sleep habits.

BMW R100/7, Portland (OR), at the office all day, locked in the garage
at night. It's the vehicle that takes me shopping, look for it outside
of any store that carries used cookbooks. I sleep next to my collection
of reproduction black-powder guns ;-).

Spare keys must be a Good Idea, because the lady who used to own my
motorcycle kept some. I didn't find out until I washed the poor thing.
I had a spare key on the bike for about ten months, and more than thirteen
thousand miles, including my trip through California for the joust.

like, well, Surprise!.


So if you _do_ put a spare key on the bike, please tell the nice dealer
when you sell it, so the next person knows it's there.


> I carry a spare key, but on my person, not on the bike.

So, where do you keep it, and how soundly do you sleep?


          Martin Golding             |  Work to ride,
DoD #236  BMWMOA #55952  WMTC #0002  |   ride to work.
[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin
From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!!!
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:59:00 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <1992Sep4.193306.8093@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>
>
>>	Hey, doesn't Harley Davidson recommend _their_ brand Oil?
>
>
>>	But, they recommend their underwear, too.
>
>And they're introducing a line of swimwear for '93 too!
>

Snap-on just introduced an official Harley-licensed mechanic's
roll-around tool box.  Price - $3500, not including any tools.

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| Dave Tharp                      | DoD #0751   | "You can't wear out       |
| davet@loowit.WR.TEK.COM         | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        |
| '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.|
| '75 R90S(#151) '68 CB450(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks |
| '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     |
|       1938 BMW R12              | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that     |
| My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: patlo@microsoft.com (Pat Loughery)
Subject: Re: Question from a "Newbie"
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:09:24 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Aug25.185206.24782@isc-br.isc-br.com> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com wrote:

> Note who gave the DECENT answer - a fellow who's been roundly flamed
> for his mean-spirited attitude and general irascible nature.  Will I
> _ever_ understand human behavior?

Well, I'll be - 

Satan has usenet access?

Patlo@microsoft.com	DoD #393	Still no Ducati

PS: Carl, I know it's been cold over in Spokane lately, but perhaps you
should go for a quick spin anyway? :-)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on VMAX
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:41:46 GMT

Christopher Paull (cpaull@arctic.mips.com) wrote:
: 
: When comparing the motor to a ZX, or a GSXR or other in-line 4 remember
: that the VMAX motor is designed much more for torque than top end horse
: power.  As a result it feels very strong from the bottom, rather than feeling
                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

: like you have to get the rev's up to get at the power.  Although it's really 
: great when the V-Boost Kicks (at 6K).  
: 
: I have ridden passengers who have found this bike very comfortable.
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

: "Mere words do not suffice, to understand you must experience."
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hey!  Is this alt.sex or what!?


Nick (the Biker with no woman at present)   DoD 1069  MAG 73516

M'Lud.


Near here is a shop which tarts up VMAX's to look extremely nice and gives 
them over 150BHP.  They also charge 15,000 pounds for the finished thing!!
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: not the Spagthorpe Basenji
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:36:05 GMT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <1992Sep3.213055.427@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
> In article <1992Sep03.152314.13534@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep02.141755.3618@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>>>
>>>                ___
>>>               |   |
>>>               |   |
>>>             __|___|__
>>>               /~~~\
>>>              | o o |
>>>              (  |  )
>>>               \ - /
>>>                | |
>>>            /~~~   ~~~\
>>>           / /|     |\ \
>>>          / / |M'Lud| \ \
>>>         / /  |     |  \ \
>>>        | /   /~~~~~\   \ |
>>>      ==||=, |       | ,=UW==
>>>       _UW/ ===/~~~\=== \___
>>>             || ( ) ||
>>>             ||\___/||
>>>             || (_) ||
>>>             ||     ||
>>>             ||/~~~\||
>>>             || /~\ ||
>>>             ||| \ |||
>>>        /----||| / |||----\
>>>        |||| ==| \ |==|||||
>>>        \----  | / | -----/
>>>               | \ |
>>>               | / |
>>>               | \ |
>>>               | / |
>>>                \_/
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~		
>> 
>> My goodness!  Where did you dig this up.  Surely that's none other
>> than the honorable Sir Ruthvyn Swallowleigh-Spagthorpe, the great barrister,
>> perched atop a Spagthorpe Basenji?  
> 
> 
> sorry, jon, that's not that basenji.  the picture had suffered bitrot
> and so i have restored it to its original condition.  it is noneother
> than the Spagthorpe Boxer.

my god.  i'd swear it was the R1.  whatever happened to henry,
anyway?

-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: test
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 3 Sep 1992 04:55:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Sep2.165427.13289@ttinews.tti.com>, paulb@harley.tti.com
(Paul Blumstein) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Sep1.163902.16445@ncsu.edu> steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier) writes:
> +In article <78843@ut-emx.uucp> captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
> +>BTW, a question for all you etiologists.  What is the TRUE origin of the
> +>word "scumbag"?
> +
> +I'm not absolutely sure about the etiology, ...
> 
If I'm not mistaken it's latin for Lance Holst is a Jerk. 


| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834      | DoD #207  AMA
#573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci. dept. | KotNML  /  KotB     
|
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get  | '81 CB750C          
|
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111               | '88 Bianchi Limited 
|
From: jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Riding Two on a CBR600F2
Date: 27 Aug 1992 23:00:46 GMT
Organization: Lauwrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.64.140

In article <msbogd-270892145137@enterprise.lerc.nasa.gov>
msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael S. Bogdanski) writes:
>Recently, I've carried a passenger on my '92 CBR600F2.  It seemed like a
>great idea until my crotch was smashed up against the gas tank while
>slowing and my privates were smashed, causing quite a bit of discomfort. 
>Also, I found that there was a tremendous extra load put on my arms while
>slowing down due to the increased weight from behind.  I weigh about 175lb
>and my passenger about 110lb.  Has anyone figured out a method for
>minimizing/eliminating these uncomfortable and painful encounters while
>carrying a passenger?

	That's the problem with carying passengers on those sports bikes, which are
not really made for that (my Hawk GT fits in that category). Mainly because the
passenger is sited higher up than you, has to lean forward on the driver, and
has nowhere to hold on in the back during deceleration (nor during
acceleration, but it's not a problem).

	So when you brake, the passenger can't help but crash on you, eventually
getting you to slide on the skai ... into the tank.

	Well, you can try to put your butt all the way back, like your normal riding
position, but then you're leaning more, and so is the passenger. The passenger
can also put his/her hands on/around the gas tank during braking. If the
passenger is aware of the traffic too, it's usually better. I good pillon knows
what's going on on the road, and if you ride often together, is going to know
what's happening next, lean correctly in the curves (sometimes even having you
lean more, because he/she's having fun leaning too). If the pillon is good and
used to ride with you, it can make a biiiig difference, and he/she is actually
enjoying it !!! Has confidence in you, you feel this confidence, and you have
as much fun as you would alone.

	Yes, it's harder on the arms ... one solution to that: more strength (comes
from practice (hills of SF are pretty good practice ground (-:)). And take it
easy and go slower at first (at least to get the pillon used to ride, if you go
too fast the first time, they're gonna be scared). And allways be more carefull
two up, braking distance are bigger (allthough you can brake harder, especially
much harder with the back brake).

	One very interesting experience too, is to try the passenger's position once
on your bike, then you can explain the best position better to the passenger.
If they are affraid to lean in the corners, explain to them they can steer the
bike too, and go to a parking lot to let them lean and try it out (the problem
then after that is that some of them try to steer from the back after (-:).

	The quality of the pillon can make a _huge_ difference, and it is your task to
educate your passenger. You can allways feel if the passenger is stressed and
affraid or not.

	JNM
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: The prettiest ducks are yellow
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:27:04 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University

Just saw a Duc 900 SuperLight.  An amazing 388 lbs of bright yellow
speed.  Carbon fiber "fenders", alloy wheels that probably weigh less
than the money it would cost to replace them!  These things are being
shipped out of the country faster than you can say "Quack", so get
thee down (up?) to the Ducmeister near you and gawk before they are
all packed away in German storage crates.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>      "Have you hugged the curves today?"
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.              MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Lots of performance numbers (Was: Thoughts on VMAX)
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:10:08 GMT
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1992Sep2.130841.9049@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
|blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
|>[table of performance results deleted]
|Hmm, you may be onto something here after all Randy. As long as this
|discussion was fact-free it was pretty lively, but as soon as I posted
|some of those FACTS, it ended the dicsussion.
|
|Sorry about that, I'll try not to let it happen again.

  Told ya...  Enter some facts into it, and the whole thing dies.   And I
had a few people pretty riled up, too, while still almost coming off as
somewhat sensible... :-)

Randy Davis                             UUCP: randy@megatek.com
("A notch above STUPID fast") ZX-11 Pilot     megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: European bike ride
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:17:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.133534.12065@bnr.uk>,
	 datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes...
>I saw on telly recently that 9 out of 10 Americans didn't know where the UK was
                                                                          ^^
>on a globe so I shouldn't be too hard on you after all.  Must be inbreeding or
>something.....    :)
	Terribly sorry to correct you on this, old chap, but I saw that CNN
report too, the other day.  It was the *US* that Americans can't locate! :-(
Tho' I guess that would also make them less likely to be able to find the UK...
> 
>Nick (the Peeved Euro-Biker)   DoD 1069    MAG 73516
>
BTW, does that new e-mail address of yours actually _receive_ mail?  It sends
OK :-)

>M'Lud.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
"pooter, n. an entomological collecting bottle into which small
arthropods are introduced by suction." -- Chambers English Dictionary
From: jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Date: 29 Aug 1992 01:04:17 GMT
Organization: Lauwrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.64.133

>>Loosely translated:
>>"I still don't have a clue, so I'm broadcasting my cluelessness to the
>>net instead of asking the Keeper of the List for a number."
>>-- 
>>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah
>84108
>>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX:
>blaine_g
>>Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.     
>FJ1200
>
>Man, DWB, that stings.... straight from the mouth of a DOD GOD. I stand
>chastised before the DOD community (wimper, wimper...). Where is this
>KEEPER OF THE LIST? Is he a DOD GOD, demi-god, or just some brown-nosin',
>pussy-assed pee-on who is forced to be some kind of newsgroup secretary...
>
>SHOW YOURSELF KOTL, AND GIVE ME MY NUMBER!!!!
>

	First of all, know that the DoD has no GOD ! No master ! No speed limit (just
a frendly recomendation), and tons of lighter fluid, for little newbies like
you that think that loud flattery, and overdone marks of respect will bring
them a number (so sweet it's sticky).

	Well, stay there for a while, lay on the ground flat on your face ... but stay
away from the curve, you're not even good enough for a road-kill. Maybe when
the dust setles, in the smell of exhaust you can start to think about ways to
improve yourself, the road will be long for you...

	And as far as the KotL, I might as well tell you since nobody has had a chance
for that yet:

	I could tell you who is the KotL, but then, I'd have to kill you.

>
>Rich Swift
>DOD # ------------- I AINT GOT ONE YET!

	Indeed ... you should get one.

	JNM

DoD # ... well, just check it out in the list
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:17:49 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Sep4.161937.7924@samba.oit.unc.edu> Terry.Baldridge@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Terry Baldridge) writes:
>In article <1992Sep03.174940.17210@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
>>        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
>>       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
>
>Well, there Jon, been reading a lot of Cat in the Hat and
>Green Eggs and Ham to the kid lately?

We don't have The Cat in the Hat, but yes, Green Eggs and Ham
(more properly known as "Hem!  Hem!" in our house) has been getting
a good workout.  I need to find some Dr. Seuss with a motorcycle in it.
(Though I must admit, Sylvester McMonkey McBean's conveyance in "The Sneeches"
looks suspiciously like a Spagthorpe Wolfhound.)


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
                     "I do so like Green Eggs and Ham.
                       Thank you, thank you, Sam I Am!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bob@csbvax.uucp (Bob Palin)
Subject: Re: Rainsuit
Organization: Varian Chromatography Systems
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:05:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.220154.392@halfdome.sf.ca.us> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>possibilities are particularly workable; if the outside glove is
>heavy enough to keep water out and big enough to get on over decently
>heavy motorcycle gloves, you can't feel much through it.

Ya know, I think that's why men have vasectomies...

Bob Palin, Varian, Walnut Creek, Ca (510)945-2278, AMA #353696, DoD #257
bob@varian.com {lll-winken,pacbell}!varian!bob     CBR600, ST1100, KLR650
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 03:05:22 GMT

In article <5952@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA)) writes:
>>>>The principal force involved in countersteering is centrifugal!  I used to
>>>Centrifugal force is attempting to strip macadam from the road surface and
>
>Hold on, isn`t centrifugal force just that misnomer given to describe the
>effect (angular) momentum has?

Not even close.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: genam@microsoft.com (Gena Merritt)
Subject: Re: Fabulous Harley Babe Bashing etc.
Date: 01 Sep 92 22:59:17 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <Btwqnt.9GG@waterloo.hp.com> romanko@waterloo.hp.com (Jeff Romanko) writes:
>:
>: 
>: Any Questions?? 
>: 
>: Tod J. Johnson
>
>How come a lot of women on the backs of Harley's appear to be 20 years or
>so younger than the gentlemen driving?

so that is why my ex has a 20 year old now?

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: BMW R100RS - Raise handlebar one inch
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:23:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep02.141755.3618@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>Lots of love, hugs and skin contact,
>
>Nick (the family Biker who passed his test in '77) DoD 1069 MAG 73516 AMA 4125

The blood test?

>M'Lud.
>
>                ___
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>               |   |
>             __|___|__
>               /~~~\
>              | o o |
>              (  |  )
>               \ - /
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>            /~~~   ~~~\
>           / /|     |\ \
>          / / |M'Lud| \ \
>         / /  |     |  \ \
>        | /   /~~~~~\   \ |
>      ==||=, |       | ,=UW==
>       _UW/ ===/~~~\=== \___
>             || ( ) ||
>             ||\___/||
>             || (_) ||
>             ||     ||
>             ||/~~~\||
>             || /~\ ||
>             ||| \ |||
>             ||| / |||
>             ==| \ |==
>               | / |
>               | \ |
>               | / |
>               | \ |
>               | / |
>                \_/
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~		

My goodness!  Where did you dig this up.  Surely that's none other
than the honorable Sir Ruthvyn Swallowleigh-Spagthorpe, the great barrister,
perched atop a Spagthorpe Basenji?  (The Basenji, like it's namesake,
was known for being very quiet; unfortunately, the engineers extended
this philosophy to the horn as well, starting an ages old tradition
among motorcycle manufacturers.)  (For those outside the UK, Ruthvyn,
however it's actually spelled, is pronounced "Rivven".)

But surely, Nick, you didn't just happen to have that pic lying about.
Do you have a bloodline you haven't been telling us about?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Rainsuit
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:05:42 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

with regard to rainsuits, I heartily recommend RUKKA.  I have had one of their
one piece rainsuits for three years and it still doesn't leak _and_ I live in
England!!!  :)  It has kept me warm on _long_ winter rides (see DoD technical 
glossary for details concerning "winter")  I use Frank Thomas "Aqua" gloves 
which are leather _and_ waterproof and I use Derry motorcycle boots which are
made of rubber.  (feet are smelly but dry :) ).  With this lot on, I have 
covered (intimidated) many miles of European roads without getting wet.  I 
don't work for any of these companies though.  Rukka is in Finland, Derry and
Frank Thomas (who make lots of very good bike stuff) are in England.


Nick (the Waterproof Biker)   DoD 1069   MAG 73516

M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: csl@swlrei (SCOTT LILLIOTT)
Subject: Re: HELP!! Difficult hot starting!!
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:40:53 GMT

tmockler@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>I have a problem getting my 86 honda shadow 500 started (using the starter)
>once the engine gets hot, such as after about 15 minutes of very slow riding
>in city traffic. I can pop-start it. Under these conditions I do
>have spark and fuel. While cranking, it also tends to backfire a few times. My
>theory is that there is a timing problem. Possibly, whatever mechanism normally
>advances the timing may be "sticking". If you have any experience with this sort of
>problem, please post or send e-mail. Thanks.   -Todd 

I wasn't aware this was a problem onthe Honda Vtwins, but it's well-known
on the Honda V4's that when they get hot (traffic, slow going, etc) and you
stop and restart within a short period of time, they do not start easily.

Theory: Because the carbs are centered between the cylinders and they get hot,
the fuel in the carbs tends to "boil away' or otherwise vaporise. One would
think this would be beneficial for starting but carbs are designed to pull
*liquid* fuel from the float bowl, not vapor, hence very little fuel gets to 
ports. 
 
Solution:  Crank the engine over with the throttle wide open (just like you
ride :)  and it should fire up pretty quick. 

There shouldn't be a timing problem; timing is permanantly set from the factory.

Good Luck!
S.

-- 
   #   Scott Lilliott - csl@swl.msd.ray.com                            #
    #   AMA #600897             "If you push something hard enough,   #
     #   DoD #0227               It will fall over."                 #
      #  US/INOA #8563                     -- Fudd's First Law      #
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