HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jeremyt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Jeremy Tree)
Subject: Does anyone want a game of chess?
Keywords: Chess                                                         
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:40:35 GMT

Greetings from sussex university, and hello  to anyone who is out there,
I am afraid i am going to asked that particular
question probably asked too many times before, I am interested in
playing a game over E-mail, as I have only recently returned to chess
after several years of dormancy. I would be interested in playing a game
with someone who has an average score, of a 130 ( I am sorry but I am
english). However I would love to play anyone who is has not been ranked
at all, or on the other hand someone with a far higher score, if they
are willing to spend the time. ( really I am simply looking for ANYONE).
My address is jeremyt@uk.ac.sussex.ac.uk (from within u.k) from abroad
it is, jeremyt@central.sussex.ac.uk, I hope to hear something soon, as I
hope I am not the only one who is looking for a game, Cheers Jeremy.

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: ace3@quads.uchicago.edu (AA Acero (Tony))
Subject: GIICS v1.53 uploaded to valkyries
Followup-To: rec.games.chess
Keywords: ICS, graphics
Reply-To: ace3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:02:26 GMT

GIICS v1.53, the graphical interface to ICS for MS-DOS compatible
computers has been uploaded to valkyries.andrew.cmu.edu; it should
eventually migrate to /pub/chess/doschess and is presently available
in /pub/chess/uploads.  The filename is giics153.zip

The latest version doesn't freak out if games are >100 minutes,
handles the new format a little better (still some work left there).

If you had to press 'Enter' after using the mouse to make a move, this
version should fix that.

You need unzip 5.0 to unzip it (available on valkyries as
/pub/chess/ics-clients/unzip50.exe). 

Please keep sending bug reports!

Enjoy!

tony


-- 
Anibal Antonio Acero (tony) | University of Chicago | `To baldly go where
ace3@quads.uchicago.edu     | 5640 S. Ellis Ave.    | no one has gone before',
(312)702-8214 (lab)         | James Franck Inst 340 |  what Patrick Stewart
(312)702-8387 (office)      | Chicago, IL 60637     |   _should_ be saying
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: mwj@beta.lanl.gov (William Johnson)
Subject: Schedule for 1992 US Championship?
Summary: Objective: watch on the tourney days, ski on the off days ... 
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: na 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:58:05 GMT


For those of us with the hitherto-believed-impossible objective of combining a
bit of skiing with grandmaster chess :-), a request: Does anyone know the
detailed schedule to this year's US Championship, to be held in Durango, 
Colorado (just down the road a piece from Wolf Creek)?  Given the (ahem)
eclectic interests of net readers, it might be interesting to see that schedule
posted.  Personally, I'm planning to be in Durango the weekend of 12/5-6,
partly to ski with wife and kids and partly to see the tournament; hope to see
some of you there ...

-- 
Bill Johnson				| My suggestion for an Official
Los Alamos National Laboratory		| Usenet Motto: "If you have nothing
Los Alamos, New Mexico USA		| to say, then come on in, this is the
!cmcl2!lanl!mwj (mwj@lanl.gov)		| place for you, tell us all about it!"
From: ekw@world.std.com (Elliott C Winslow)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Schedule for 1992 US Championship?
Summary: Dec 2-5,7-10,12-15,17-19
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:28:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.BxMMK2.GJB
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

In article <1992Nov12.165805.8102@newshost.lanl.gov>
mwj@beta.lanl.gov (William Johnson) writes:
> Does anyone know the detailed schedule to this year's US Championship, to
> be held in Durango, Colorado (just down the road a piece from Wolf Creek)?

The schedule is in the summary above.  The off days are for adjournments,
should there be any.

No Kamsky, no Kudrin, but otherwise quite strong (Zonal year).

Shabalov and Kaidanov don't meet the residency requirement yet, so they'll
have to wait...

--elliott
  Elliott Winslow IM
  ekw@world.std.com
  Assistant Editor
  Chess Life USCF
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: gls@windmill.ATT.COM (Consensual Hallucination)
Subject: mate in five
Organization: Kentucky Fried Fox
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:57:44 GMT

Those problems Harri sent me turned out to be by Kurt Richter.  Here's
another one; it's a mate in five.

		   ::    ::    ::    :: 
		+K    +S    -P    ::    
		   :: -K :: +S ::    :: 
		::    ::    +P    ::    
		   ::    ::    ::    :: 
		::    ::    ::    ::    
		   +P    ::    ::    :: 
		::    ::    ::    ::    

Remember to write your solution in Smythescript, the chess notation
that makes everything else look ordinary!

-:-
	"If a camel flies, nobody laughs if it doesn't get very far!"

					--Paul White's Chessic Chuckles
-- 
Col. G. L. Sicherman
gls@windmill.att.COM
From: dweddin@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: UPI: Fischer blames 'world Jewry' for 20-year absence from chess
Date: 7 Nov 92 14:29:31 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

> 	The 49-year-old resident of Pasadena, Calif., has been known for
> making anti-Semitic statements in the past.
> 	He was stripped of the world title in 1975 by the World Chess
> Federation for refusing to play Karpov. Karpov lost the title to
> Korchnoy, who was in turn defeated by Kasparov, the reigning champion.

what?!?!?! 

karpov did not lose his title to korchnoi, he beat korchnoi in every
match they played.

karpove lost the title to kasparov.




don wedding
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: chris@barrister.ucs.uoknor.edu (Chris L Petroff	)
Subject: Re: mate in five
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:24:13 GMT
Reply-To: chris@barrister.ucs.uoknor.edu
Organization: University of Oklahoma Cumputing Services

|>From: gls@windmill.ATT.COM (Consensual Hallucination)
|>Subject: mate in five
|>Organization: Kentucky Fried Fox
|>Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:57:44 GMT
|>Sender: gls@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Col. G. L. Sicherman)
|>
|>Those problems Harri sent me turned out to be by Kurt Richter.  Here's
|>another one; it's a mate in five.
|>
|>		   ::    ::    ::    :: 
|>		+K    +S    -P    ::    
|>		   :: -K :: +S ::    :: 
|>		::    ::    +P    ::    
|>		   ::    ::    ::    :: 
|>		::    ::    ::    ::    
|>		   +P    ::    ::    :: 
|>		::    ::    ::    ::    
|>
|>Remember to write your solution in Smythescript, the chess notation
|>that makes everything else look ordinary!
|>
|>-:-
|>	"If a camel flies, nobody laughs if it doesn't get very far!"
|>
|>					--Paul White's Chessic Chuckles
|>-- 
|>Col. G. L. Sicherman
|>gls@windmill.att.COM
|>

Oh my...  please be patient and hold your breath while I encode the solution...  
does the NSA know about this?     :-)
From: mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel)
Subject: Re: ****ALEKHINE'S DEATH****
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:07:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.041744.13086@midway.uchicago.edu> hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
 writes:
>>In article <1992Nov8.193045.4746@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ctepedel@nyx.cs.du.edu
(cihan tepedelenlioglu) writes:
>>>  Does anyone know the reason of Alekhine's death.?(brief question)
>
>He died of heart attack. He quit drinking in 1935, after losing the
>WC title to Euwe. (It worked, he regained the title the following year.)
>

That isn't right is it?  I've read from a number of sources
that said he died from choking on a piece of meat!  I also
read a rumor that he actually committed suicide, but it was
covered up.  Apparently there was no real basis for that.

-Mark
From: mjensen@cs.utexas.edu (Marc S. Jensen)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: A question...
Date: 10 Nov 1992 10:52:18 -0600
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: grit.cs.utexas.edu
Summary: Anyone on the net play Shogi?
Keywords: Shogi, Japanese chess


Greetings.

Does anyone know of a group on the net devoted to Shogi (Japanese chess)?

I'm having a *very* hard time finding people to play against, which means
that I'll *never* become good at this... <sob>

It's a very interesting game.  Go try it!

    -Marc


Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: renglish@cello.hpl.hp.com (Bob English)
Subject: Re: David Bronstein visits the US
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:05:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs

albert@papyrus.hpl.hp.com (Joseph Albert) writes:
: To follow up on my earlier post, GM David Bronstein is visiting HPLabs from
: Nov. 4 to Nov. 16...

I have been assisting David during his visit (setting up his system,
keeping track of the clock, transmitting his moves, etc.).
Unfortunately, I am not the world's most accomplished typist, and I
can't keep up with all of the messages that people send to him between
games.  I know I've ignored some due to finger overload.

He's asked me to tell you that he'll be here another week, and doesn't
mind answering questions.  If you want to send him a message, send it to
renglish@hpl.hp.com, with David Bronstein in the subject, and we'll try
to get back to you before he leaves.

--bob--
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan)
Subject: Re: novice question
Organization: CIS, University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:14:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.203931.26326@pony.Ingres.COM> jrb@Ingres.COM (John Black) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.172450.1690@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:
>>Joe Micozzi writes about the following opening:
>>
>>1. e4 e5 2. f3 c6 3. b5 (??!)
>>
>I assume his notation was messed up; he probably means 1. e4 e5  2. Nf3 Nc6
>3. Bb5 a6 (i.e. a Ruy Lopez).

If this is the case, I'll bet he's reading a FAN book.  Skipping over
the F's is a common problem for first-time FAN readers.

(hmmm - how do I know this?)

-- 
Kenneth Sloan                   Computer and Information Sciences
sloan@cis.uab.edu               University of Alabama at Birmingham
(205) 934-2213                  115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station 
(205) 934-5473 FAX              Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Why I Hate the ICS rating system.
Date: 9 Nov 1992 07:47:45 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
NNTP-Posting-Host: whirlwind.berkeley.edu
Originator: goldfarb@whirlwind.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov4.180846.14363@visus.com> nash@visus.com writes:
)In article <1992Nov3.195552.13132@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>  
)jacobson@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Eliot T. Jacobson ) writes:
)>   RAISE THE INITIAL PROVISIONAL RATING FROM 1000 TO SOMETHING MORE REALISTIC.
)
)Unless the current administrators have changed something, there is _no_ initial  
)provisional rating. You only acquire a rating after you play your first rated  
)person. If you win you are their rating + 400, if you loose you are their  
)rating - 400, or if you draw you get their rating.

	When someone plays their first rated game, their opponent's rating
changes as a result. As things are, that opponent's rating changes as though
the unrated player were rated 1000.

	In actual USCF play, this is less of a problem because people usually
play several games in their first tournament. So you can calculate a rating
based on several games and rate all the opponents against that. On the ICS,
however, all games are rated as soon as they end.

	(Side note: anyone ever wonder what the USCF does when two players
both play their first rated game against each other and then don't play
any more games in that tournament? This actually came up recently at the
Berkeley Chess Club. The winner got a rating of 1001/1 and the loser 1000/1.)

-- 
   David Goldfarb          | "Bagels can be an enormous force for good or for 
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  |  evil. It is up to us to decide how we will use
goldfarb@UCBOCF.BITNET     |  them."    -- Daniel M. Pinkwater
From: pope@gold.kpc.com (John Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Results of Ratings Survey...
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:33:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: gold.POPE.92Nov6103316
Distribution: na
Organization: /nfs/gold/u/home/pope/.organization

(Kees van den Doel) writes:
> I confess, that was me. It's been a long time that I studied games
> seriously, but I do remember playing over a very famous Lasker game
> where he had white and plays the Bird opening (1.f4..., or by
> transposition, I forget) and wins in great attacking style involving a
> double bishop sacrifice. This game reminded me of that.  If someone
> reading this knows the game please let me know, just so that I know
> that I am not hallucinating!

It was Lasker,Em-Bauer,J.H; Amsterdam 1889:

1.f4 d5 2.e3 Nf6 3.b3 e6 4.Bb2 Be7 5.Bd3 b6 6.Nc3 Bb7 7.Nf3 Nbd7
8.0-0 0-0 9.Ne2 c5 10.Ng3 Qc7 11.Ne5 Ne5 12.Be5 Qc6 13.Qe2 a6
14.Nh5 Nh5 15.Bh7 Kh7 16.Qh5 Kg8 17.Bg7 Kg7 18.Qg4 Kh7 19.Rf3 e5
20.Rh3 Qh6 21.Rh6 Kh6 22.Qd7 Bf6 23.Qb7 Kg7 24.Rf1 Rab8 25.Qd7
Rfd8 26.Qg4 Kf8 27.fe Bg7 28.e6 Rb7 29.Qg6 f6 30.Rf6 Bf6 31.Qf6
Ke8 32.Qh8 Ke7 33.Qg7 1-0
--
John Pope
pope@kpc.com
Kubota Pacific Computers, Inc.
(408) 987-3362
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: pope@gold.kpc.com (John Pope)
Subject: Re: Gaprindashvilli's strength (was re: Fishcer with odds)
Organization: /nfs/gold/u/home/pope/.organization
	<1992Nov12.001740.812@cis.uab.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:53:46 GMT

(Kenneth Sloan) writes:

> Sorry, no hint as to Nona's strength in (what year again? I've
> forgotten).  My guess, based on the above is that she peaked at 2450
> circa 1980.  Anyone have FIDE lists from 1972-1980?

Sure, just check the Chess Informant for those years (though some
issues only published the supplementary rating lists and some
published neither). The first Informant that published the FIDE rating
list was number 11. In it, Nona's rating was 2390. That was before she
got the IGM title. In Number 14, she's listed as "2450+". Flipping
through some issues from the 70's she seems to have stayed around the
low 2400's. In Informant #30 (which covered 1980), she's listed as an
IGM, but her rating is only 2300. In 1985, it was 2350.

As for whether Fischer could have successfully given her Knight odds
in a match, IMHO the answer is obviously "no"; in an individual game,
"maybe"; in a blitz game/match "quite possibly".

--
John Pope
pope@kpc.com
Kubota Pacific Computers, Inc.
(408) 987-3362
From: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Where did they get these names?
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:45:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Nov5.184538.5448
Reply-To: hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Nov5.032458.25528@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Oliver) writes:
>I was wondering if anybody was familiar with the derivation of the names of
>the following attacks and openings:
>
>3)Caro-Kahn Defense / Fantasy Variation - 1. e4 c6  2. d4 d5 3. f3

Caro and Kann (I think this is the correct spelling) were 19th century
chessplayers from Vienna. Why this is called Fantasy Variation, I don't
know (I didn't even know it was called so). Perhaps because it is good
only in some players' fantasies?  ;-)

>4)English Opening / Hedgehog Defense - 1. c4 c5  2. Nf3 Nf6  3. Nc3 e6  
>                                       4. g3 b6

Well, black takes guard just like a hedgehog: he is not very active, but
if you touch him, you might get hurt. Hedgehog position can be reached 
from other openings (Sicilian defense, English defense).

>5) Two Knights Defense / Fried Liver Attack - 1. e4 e5  2. Nf3 Nc6  3. Bc4 
>                                              Nf6  4. Ng5 d5  5. exd5 Nxd5
>                                              6. Nxf7

Have you ever seen a liver being fried? It squirms. And so does black in
this variation...

>If anybody has any others to add to the list....
>

Well, how about a little trivia: what are the current names of the cities
after which these openings were named:

LENINGRAD variation in Dutch and Nimzoindian defenses (admittedly, this is too
							easy)
BRESLAU system in open Ruy Lopez

... (add your favorite one)...

Or this: can you recognize the openings by their names used by the majority
of players - in fact, by almost all non-English-speaking players:

Spanish game
	Jaenisch variation

Russian game

(French defense)
	Nimzowitsch variation

(Sicilian defense)
	Lasker variation
	Najdorf-Fischer variation
	Matulovic gambit

King's fianchetto defense

Nimzowitsch opening (watch out - this is NOT Nimzowitsch or Nimzoindian DEFENSE)

again, add your favorites...

	Sven
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: qazqaz@Muir.Stanford.EDU (Mike Perkins)
Subject: Davis-Fedorowicz, U.S. Open, Round 1, Atlanta, 1980
Originator: qazqaz@Muir.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Ye Olde Pawn Shoppe
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:04:21 GMT


Recently someone posted this game which reached this position after 23.Bf6!:

 -----------------------
|          q* r* b* k*   |8     The game continued 23. ... Bc5+ 24.Kf1 Bf2
|    b*          p* p* p*|7     25.Bf7+ Kf8 26.Qh7 gf 27.Bg6  1 - 0
|    p*       p* B       |6
|          p*       P  B |5     I don't see what would happen after 
|       p*       P     Q |4     23. ... gf6
|    P     P           R |3
|          r*          P |2     I looked and looked and don't see the catch.
|       R           K    |1     Can anyone help me?
 ------------------------
  a  b  c  d  e  f  g  h

mike perkins
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: mann@src.dec.com (Tim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Where did they get these names?
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:22:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center


Santasiere's Folly: Benjamin and Schiller (hi, Eric) give some
background on this name in "Unorthodox Openings."  Santasiere named
the opening in a booklet he wrote about it.  The booklet urges players
to read Erasmus's "In Praise of Folly" first, to learn why the name is
so apt.

Orangutan (Sokolsky) Opening: In "Karl Marx Plays Chess," Andy Soltis
says "The story of how he [Tartakower] played 1 b4 at the New York
International of 1924 after a visit to the Bronx Zoo---and added the
Orangutan Opening to the books---is a permanent part of chess lore."
I believe Sokolsky was a later exponent of this opening, who played
and analyzed it more extensively than Tartakower did.

	--Tim
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: watsonb@alcohol.ecn.purdue.edu (Bradley S Watson)
Subject: Re: Should women's tournaments exist?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:08:58 GMT

Paul Epstein writes:
>This is an important question which I haven't seen discussed in this group.
>My opinion is that they perpetuate the harmful and untrue notion that
>women can't compete with men on equal terms, and that they prevent more
>women from being world class chess players by encouraging them to play against
>each other rather than against the world's best.

The evidence indicates otherwise.  Women's tournaments are much more common
in Europe than here in the US, and the gap between men and women is larger
here than in Europe.

>Significantly, the best women seem to have consistently avoided women's
>competitions.

Not always, the Polgars and Pia Cramling don't play in women's tournaments 
(except the Olympiads), but all the other top women do.

>Is anybody prepared to defend the continued existence of the women's world
>championship cycle and other women's competitions?  I get the impression that
>they are being phased out, and  I think that the continued success of Judit
>Polgar will accelerate this process.

This is news to me.  Where did you get the impression that the women's WC
was being phased out?

Bradley
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 18:45:13 CST
From: Howard Wachtel <U13054@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Once rated, not always rated.
 <1992Nov3.165723.5220@u.washington.edu>

In article <1992Nov3.165723.5220@u.washington.edu>, jph@stein.u.washington.edu
(Jeff Hanson) says:
>
>In article <1992Nov3.003245.26530@pixel.kodak.com> jeh@raster.kodak.com (Ed
>Hanway) writes:
>>Does one's rating (USCF) drop off the lists after a long period of
>>inactivity?  I haven't played a tournament game in over 10 years and am
>>wondering what would happen if I started playing again.

>        The USCF claims that once rated, always rated; but I know from
>personal experience that that ain't so.  I suspect that with 10 years
>of no rated games that they will have lost your old rating.

   My experience has also been that USCF occasionally may not use a
player's old rating from many years past and instead rate the games of
a player returning after a long absence as if he were unrated.
   On one occasion, I actually stated in my tournament report to
USCF the issue of Chess Life containing the Annual Rating List which
included the player's rating (and the page number in that issue also),
but the post-tournament crosstable showed that USCF ignored it and still
treated the player as unrated.  Maybe if your last rated game took place
before USCF's current computer rating system was in force, then there
is a chance that the computer may not find your old rating.
________________________________________________________________
Howard K. Wachtel              University of Illinois at Chicago
U13054@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU        Phone (312) 975-7970
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: baljeual@uther.calvin.edu (Alan Baljeu)
Subject: Re: Gaprindashvilli's strength (was re: Fishcer with odds)
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:32:46 GMT

<U23590@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>>>
>>>You're crazy if you think even a perfect chess machine could give
>>>knight odds to a 2300 player.
>>>
>But Fischer was probably better than a perfect chess machine.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Watkins didn't put them in, so I thought I better.(or was he serious?)

Alan Baljeu
From: dweddin@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: SPIKE - ADDRESSES NEEDED
Date: 7 Nov 92 14:33:45 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

does anybody have the mailing addresses of these noted 
SPIKE/GROB'S ATTACK players????

Mickael Basman
Bill Wall
Claude Bloodgood (is he still alive????)

also, does anybody know how i can get an ENGLISH version of
Henry Grob's book. Mine is in german and i can barely translate
it.

thanks!

don wedding