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From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Reunion rumour?
Date: 12 Dec 1992 17:32:07 GMT
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In article <gf_Dm5S00awW1cb1gr@andrew.cmu.edu> "Jason M. Roth" <jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I'm faintly stunned not to see any mention of this: last night on CNN
>Headline News there was a bit of which I caught the tail end saying
>something about Paul, George and Ringo getting together for some reason;
>whether to play, edit, record, or what, I don't know....
>
>Does anyone know _anything_ about this!?!?

At a press conference, Paul once again bought up the possibility that
he, George, and Ringo may do some recording for the "Long and Winding
Road" project.   But, rumors run more rampant then fact.   The actual
quote from Paul at the press conference is this:

"We may do some new recordings for the film.   Just the three of us,
 as that's the way to do it.   I shouldn't think we'll re-form as a
 band, just do a bit of work together."

He also says that anything they do would be "very low-key so as not to
raise the expectations of fans."   I take this to mean that any work they
do together might not extend beyond "film score music"  (which is not 
inherently good or bad, but not what the general public would be expecting
of a "Beatles re-union")   Further, hopefully EMI would be a bit tasteful
in any soundtrack CD that may come out, not billing it as "the Beatles",
or "Three Quarters of The Beatles", or something equally annoying.

<ESC>


-- 
Something in the way she moves, attracts me like a pomegranate.
                                     -- George Harrison
From: ci230@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael L. Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: MACCA Tour
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:42:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Chris Milton posted (18088) an article saying he had tix to
see McCartney in Australia this March.  Has there been a tour
anounced for the States?  If so, does someone have a posting
with the scheduled Cities/dates?


Thanks

Mike Reece
mlr@cadnet.micro.honeywell.com
From: bjones@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Loudan Wainwright tribute to John L
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:47:09 EST
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Dec10.155013.12711@waikato.ac.nz>, deryl@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> I hate to tell you this, Louise, but I think the song lyrics are kind
> of gross.  Not a patch on Empty Garden, still the best JL tribute, IMHO.
> 
> Deryl
> 

IMO, that the lyrics to "Not John" seem somewhat primitive, but they
may work OK with music (I haven't heard that song, so I'm not trying to
defend it, just giving it the benefit of a doubt).

I agree with you completely on "Empty Garden" - both, its lyrics and
music (melody) are very beautiful (even if rather heavy and haunting), not
to mention Elton's masterful performance. ( I just wish there was no
reason for its existence, sigh...)

Beata
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From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
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Cc: 
Subject: Re: Beatle Reunion

In article <1g8obeINN71n@agate.berkeley.edu> you write:
>jbeer@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jason R. Beerhalter) writes:
>>     What I DO think would be a good idea would be for the remaining
>>     Beatles to get together and have Julian take John's place.
>
>I can't imagine that Julian would enjoy that very much.  And it would
>be a little cheezy for the actual Beatles to construct, in effect, a
>Beatles-soundalike band, especially since they're always so unhappy
>about anyone else doing it.

Macca was on the news last night, and he discarded any suggestions that
they would need Julian. Basically all he said is that "the three of [them]"
might get back together to record some new material. *NOWHERE* was the
suggestion that they were going to trot out their old hits. They then went
on to interview people in record shops about what they thought of "new
material".

They also mentioned that the artistic tension between Lennon & McCartney
would naturally be absent. IMHO, interviews with George still shows that
he didn't like the way Macca used to feel superior to him, and I doubt that
George would want to take a No. 2. place to Macca. That could be interesting,
after all, there's *NO* doubt that George *CAN* write excellent songs.

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: The Lives of JL
Date: 10 Dec 92 19:27:54 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <12940.9212082359@csparc12.scs.leeds.ac.uk>, ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk writes:
>>muhr@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de  writes:
>>> I am just reading (yes, I know I'm late) "The Lives of John Lennon" by
>>> Albert Goldman. Well, this is really heavy stuff. Can someone more
>>> knowledgeable about backgrounds comment on the authenticity and
>>> credibility of this book and Goldman?

Albert Goldman has been thoroughly lambasted several times for attacking dead
stars who are unable to defend themselves (Elvis, Lenny Bruce, John etc). 
However, I personally feel that he is a really shrewd writer.  Certainly, his
Elvis book was the first to reveal the full horror of the singer's death, and
IMO "TLOJL" is the definitive Lennon biog.

>>
>>I think that Goldman can be a valuable book, but only if you
>>have read other biographies first.  I personally like Brown,
>>because it avoids some of the extremes.  When reading Goldman,
>>be very skeptical.

Personally, I feel Brown's writing on the subject is very poor, giving too wide
a berth to quite impostant topics like John's drug addiction and his (possible)
homosexuality.  On the other hand, Goldman's book, IMO, is far closer to the
truth than any other biog.  Other's like Ray Coleman's are far too sentimental
to be truly worthwhile except as a piece of well-written memorabilia.  Other's
(there are several) lack the basic facts to be a worthwhile account of John's
life.
    On another topic, I think Goldman's apraisals of the music of The Beatles
and Lennon's solo work is exemplary.  He is one of the few writers I've ever
seen who display how little John really contributed to "Sgt Pepper" and also
how it was John who drove them to split up by insisting that "Get Back" would
be recorded live, without overdubs etc.
    Please read Goldman's book.  I doubt anyone will ever come closer to the
truth behind John's life.

>>


>>Jeff
> 
> Has anyone else noticed the dreadful editing of the bit about Kyoko. It
> just suddenly stops. This might be my poor memory though as I dropped
> my paperback copy into the bath when I was reading it, and had to 
> hurridly finish it before it dried and became unusable.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ross-c
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From: mdubey@MtHolyoke.edu (Mandakini Dubey)
Subject: Re: Beatles to reform????
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:59:02 GMT

I am completely and utterly confused. All these years I thought that the
three who performed at Clapton's wedding were Paul, George and Ringo. And
now Christer says that it was John! Maybe it WAS Paul, making fun of
himself as a way of making fun of John making fun of him, etc. 
I wanted to ask the person who saw John's face in the sky smiling down on
him/her: did he make faces at you, as he always did at the camera?
Just wondering.
Since Rolling Stone has given up being "a cosmic giggle" in order to write
serious (pretentious) articles on Roque 'n Roale, I think r.m.b has
(intentionally or otherwise) inherited that mantle.

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From: guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com (Guy D. McConnell)
Subject: Re: 20/20
Keywords: 20/20 mark david chapman
Reply-To: guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:04:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.015252.14485@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson) writes:
|> 
|> I'll try and explain my feelings more if anyone wishes.  I just want to make
|> my point.  I think I am ready to forgive this man and help to lighten the
|> awful karmic load that he must and will always bear.  When I realized I was
|> having these feelings I immediately doubted their validity and questioned
|> them.  I mulled them over for days and finally realized why I should try to
|> forgive this man.
|> 
|> What would John do?

    Yes, what would John do?  If, say it *had* been Yoko (as many people say it
"should have been" or they "wish it had been"), or Sean, or Julian, or Paul, what
would John do?  Forgive?  I think not.  What John would do will never be known 
because a cold-blooded killer slaughtered him.  The returns he hoped for are 
coming in, he is getting a bit of "fame" and publicity and a public who absolutely
feeds on this sort of morbid sensationalism is lapping it up.  I personally have
no sympathy for a cold-blooded murderer, no matter who the victim is.  A character
flaw perhaps but true nevertheless.

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com  or  ...uunet!ingr!b11!mspe5!guy
		  "All I need is a pint a day"
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatles in the news...
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:04:10 GMT
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In article <Bz7J68.IJq@mtholyoke.edu> mdubey@MtHolyoke.edu (Mandakini Dubey) writes:
>Saki is right, we shouldn't start frothing at the mouth about something that
>is basically one of the ex-Beatles saying that he would like to work with
>the other two. I do think it's slightly cynical to say that McCartney's just
>doing it for publicity, though!

Perhaps a bit.   The last time did really seem to be a bit of a publicity
stunt, as Paul did actually use the magical word "Beatles" when talking
about working with George and Ringo.   It was that word which caused George's
rather terse reply that "The Beatles cannot re-form as long as John Lennon
remains dead."

>To begin with, from what I've heard he just said in response to a question
>that he would be interested in making some music with the other two, something
>"low-key". 

Yeah, I gave the entire quote from Macca in a post awhile back.

>This time he hasn't done that... so maybe there is something in the works?!!!
>What the hell, let's just get excited. 

Well, there is no doubt that the three are working together on the "Long and
Winding Road" film.  That should be *the* definitive film look at the foursome,
putting things like "The Compleat Beatles" to shame.  (As George says,  "I
saw the first reel [approx 50 minutes], and Pete Best hadn't even joined the
band yet!"

Imagine ten hours, each as in-depth as the "Making of Sgt. Pepper" special,
all with detailed commentary from the three  (and hopefully they make a bit
better use of archival footage of John, a la the "Imagine: John Lennon" film)
any new incidental music they may or may not record for the project would 
really just be a bonus.

>So we'll be wrong. So WHAT! This isn't a matter of life and death, it's a 
>little fun (they call it rock'n'roll). 

To quote that other band, "I Know, It's ONLY rock and roll, but I like it, like
it, yes I do!"

<ESC>
-- 
Something in the way she moves, attracts me like a pomegranate.
                                     -- George Harrison
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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey brent morris)
Subject: Re: The Singles on CD
Keywords: singles, mono
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:13:22 GMT

From what I heard, the singles set was out in Britain over a month ago, but I
have no first-hand knowledge of this.  It is out over here in the States for
sure, and I've seen it selling for $166.99!  This is quite high, considering
I paid about $4 each for the 22 singles on 3"CD.
So, I haven't gotten the set as yet, and I'm not sure that I will.  But as far
as I know, it is simply a 5" reissue of the 3" set, which means that all the
singles use the original mixes...every one of them is in mono except for "The
Ballad of John and Yoko", "Something", and "Let It Be" (whose B-side is of
course in mono).
It's kind of annoying looking at the back of the box, because they're listed
slightly out of order!  "I Feel Fine" is the last one listed, and "The Ballad
of John and Yoko", "Something", and "Let It Be" are placed in between "Penny
Lane" and "All You Need Is Love", as I recall.

There are several mono mixes on here that aren't available on CD elsewhere,
and quite a few are substantially different, notably "Yellow Submarine",
"Revolution", "Help!", "Baby You're a Rich Man", "I Am the Walrus", and others.
Also, this (and the 3"CDs) is the only American release of mono mixes of "Get
Back" and "Don't Let Me Down", as far as I know.
And, FYI, "Love Me Do" is the Andy White version.
From: slchb@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: "Hard Days Night" & misc.
Date: 14 Dec 92 09:40:37 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

I just watched a Hard Day's Night again.  It is a very under-rated movie.  It
has stood up very well over the years.  I still think the movie's opening
is the best I have ever seen- bar none- as far as the energy generated.  I was
ten years old when it came out and a true Beatles fan.  There was so much
screaming coming from the audience you'd think you were at an actual concert.
Both "Hard Day's Night" and "Help" are movies I can still remember where I
saw them at, which row and seats I was in, and who I was with.  The elation
of seeing my "heroes" on the giant screen was almost too much to handle.
On another subject I think Maureen McGovern's "I Will" is the bestBeatle 
adaptation or "cover."  
For those that are in to Beatle collectibles I have a 27 vinyl collection which
includes "peeled" "Butcher Block" that I am considering parting with.  If 
interested e-mail me and I will send the details. GW  IN%"slchb@usu.edu"
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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey brent morris)
Subject: Re: menlove avenue.
Keywords: Menlove, John, unreleased
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:11:58 GMT

Side one features some things that were from the _Rock 'n Roll_ sessions
but didn't make the final cut, and side 2 contains outtakes/early
studio demos of stuff from _Walls and Bridges_.  However, the stuff
has been edited and revamped by Yoko, and you can get better versions
on bootleg if you look hard enough...

- Jeff ("...all you really get is wet!  Move over Ms. L." - John)



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From: brody@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Adam R. Brody )
Subject: London Walking Tour
Summary: Excellent walking tour in London
Keywords: London
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:36:40 GMT

I just got back from London where I was privileged to be led on
a walking tour of London by the head of the London Beatles Fan
Club.  This guy, Richard P., won the Beatles Brain of Britain award
the past 2 years and provided an excellent tour complete with
appropriate sound bites and pictures.  Among the sites we visited
were: Abbey Road Studios (had to take the Underground to get here),
Paul's offices, Apple HQ (where the Beatles played there roof concert
in Let It Be),, the Indica Gallery (it no longer exists but is the site
where John met Yoko, Hare Krishna HQ and restaurant, the London
Pavillion (across from which Jane Asher was staring in a show), and
various other noteworthy sites.  While standing outside 3 Saville Rd
listening to the version of Get Back they played on the roof that day,
Richard was telling us that the police were called to close down
the show by the high priced tailors located along the street who
were upset by the potential customers they lost to the show.  Just
then, a police car rolled by to see what we were up to!  The tour
was very accurate!  The street is so narrow that the top of the roof
is not visible from the street so people had to climb other bldgs
to see.  It might not have been as good as a trip to Liverpool
but it was definitely worth the price of about $5.
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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey brent morris)
Subject: Re: Book
Followup-To: _Twilight of the Gods_
Keywords: analysis, Riley
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:45:28 GMT

Another book that does a musical analysis of Beatlesongs is _Tell Me
Why: A Beatles Commentary_ by Tim Riley, which just came out a few
years ago.

- Jeff ("When you're dead, anything's funny" - John)
From: Joerg_Picard@rs.maus.de (Joerg Picard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: NOWHERE MAN...
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 15:37:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
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catherine roth wrotes:
 > did you ever find "i me mine?"

Can anyone tell me what the title "I me mine" actually means? Sorry,
but I couldn't make sense out of it.
Joerg
From: jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatles Japanese Laser Disks
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:04:24 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Dec15.065601.8560@microsoft.com> frede@microsoft.com (Frederick Einstein) writes:
<
<In Japan, Magical Mystery Tour has just been re-released on VHS, Beta
<and Laser disk.  It is on the "Apple" label.  Music re-mastering is
<credited to George Martin.  Dialogue remastering is credited to 
<Ron Furmarek.

	The US pressing credits the same people.  From what I hear on this
newsgroup it's out of print now.  I bet many Tower Video stores still have
it in stock.  It's a very good disc, entire film fits on one side (CLV), 
chapter encoded.

<John and Yoko's Imagine (from 1971 -- not the documentary) is also
<available on LaserDisk.  I don't ever recall seeing this in the U.S.

	It is still available here.
<
<A new collection of John Lennon videos is also available on 
<LaserDisk here.  These were compiled by Yoko and include some
<animated John Lennon lithographs.
<
	This one I haven't seen.

BTW, I have just called Image Entertainment and they are saying the new 
pressing of Yellow Submarine on laser is *not* going to be letterboxed.  Dumb.

	Jan Bielawski
	Computervision, San Diego
	jpb@calmasd.prime.com

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From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Subject: Re: NO, THEY'RE *NOT* REFORMING!
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:13:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.065348.842@ultb.isc.rit.edu> sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Throughout this whole thread about reforming, nobody has actually
>confirmed it! 

That's because it's not confirmed. They're *not* reforming as the Beatles,
or as anything.

>I read in the paper and heard on the news that they
>are for a week, to do a TV special. It'll be A&E or something and
>a station in England. Sorry, this is all i know.

The project is called "The Long And Winding Road", a multipart video
documentary. The ex-Fabs will be contributing their recollections
to it. They are not, however, reconvening as the Beatles in order
to do so. They may not even all be in the same room at once. Paul,
ever the publicity hound, mentioned to the overeager press that
it was *possible* the three *may* do some music together, but there
have been no statements from George or Ringo to this effect, and I
would tend to discount the possibility until the other two affirm
Macca's wishful thinking...which, I'll emphasize again, hasn't
happened.

The boys do occasionally get together in the same space, you know;
in fact they had a business meeting last October 8th at MPL (McCartney's
company) in Soho Square. But this was not a reformation either. Not
even if they might have happened to sing in the elevator on the way
up to the second floor. :-)

--
"Some of these tunes are purely instrumental, such as 'Looking Glass',
'Catswalk' and 'Winston's Walk', and others were composed with the modern
audience in mind, tunes like 'Thinking of Linking', 'The One After 909'...."
---------------------------------------------------saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)
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Subject: What I like about them "re-forming"
From: rhill@netlink.cts.com (Ron Hill)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 23:20:21 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

        What I'm excited about is the idea of actually being able to see 
much of the footage you only read about in things like "the beatles 
chronocal" and the like.  I hope they play the "videos" (Straw. Fields., 
etc) all the way through and don't talk over em, as in Imagine and 
Compleat.  I hope they release un-released stuff.  I hope they make it as 
good as "The Civil War" with lots of rare pictures and the like.  I hope 
they make a picture book out of it.  I hope Mark Levison is involved.  I 
hope it's good. 
s

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From: trwagner@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Me!! Ted.)
Subject: Sick cookie
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:47:00 GMT




	Anybody watch Chapman last night on Larry King?  What
a sick cookie.  
	He sat there calmly and described the murder in great detail
as if he had read it from a novel.  I don't have any sympathy for
a man or woman who can coldly murder someone, especially pumping
lead into them when their back is turned, and blame it all on
some book!  What a load of crap!  To make matters worse, it just 
adds to those damn PTA parents who want to ban most classics!

	Chapman is a sickie.  I wouldn't think twice or be saddened
in any form if the man came to a worse fate.  Maybe it is just that
I feel like he shattered the music world and took from all of us
not only John Lennon, but all hopes of the fab four living and singing
well into their 60's and 70's.

-- 
         Swallowing your pride rarely leads to indigestion.
         A hard thing about business is minding your own!
-trwagner@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu   &    trwagner@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu-
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