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From: sdw@lignet (Stephen D. Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: Re: Affordable UUCP/USENET for BBS operartors
Date: 3 Jan 1993 22:22:48 GMT
Organization: Local Internet Gateway Co.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bugatti.meaddata.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Edward Vielmetti (emv@msen.com) wrote:
: Dean Brooks (dean@coplex.com) wrote:
: 
: : Our company spends approx $12000.00 a year in telephone costs for
: : uucp access.  We help defray the costs a bit by charging other sites
: : for news feeds.  Why should we give feeds out for free?  If we don't charge
: : for feeds, *WE* don't get a feed.
: 
: At $12K/yr you could have a 56kb/sec leased line into the Internet from
: any of a number of providers.  If you're spending $1000/mo just on UUCP
: bills then you're spending too much....

Ed, is this really available everywhere?

I'm in Dayton, OH.  A commercial feed from Uunet, PSI Net, etc., would
cost me at LEAST $24,000.  I know of a company in Dayton that's paying
over $30,000 for uucp access alone to Uunet.

I can get a connection from OARNET for a reasonable price (don't know
about 56k, but V.32bis/... slip maxes out at about $350/mo.).
Unfortunately, you have to add $100,000 to that yearly if you want to
resell/redistribute your info/connection.

I know that Msen has a GREAT deal for the 313 areacode.  Everything is
local, right?  I don't know about your commercial restrictions, but
you have a great setup.  Unfortunately it's specific to your areacode.

In MA, CA, NY, etc. connections are fairly plentiful and cheap, but
elsewhere, the charges aren't so cheap.  This is especially true of
small and medium sized towns.

Of course, I wouldn't complain if I didn't have a solution ;-).

I'm working on my Local Internet Gateway (LIG) system and advocating
Pagesat's receivers for bulk NetNews reception.

Cutting out the vast majority of Long Distance is the only way to make
Internet (News, email, some ftp/telnet/irc, etc.) access available to
everyone.

:   Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
:         Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB

sdw
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From: ron.brandt@satalink.com (Ron Brandt)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: IN IVYLAND, PA - DSC BBS
Date: 24 Dec 92 09:55:00 GMT
Reply-To: ron.brandt@satalink.com (Ron Brandt)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

Give us a call ...

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      ---------------------------    HST/Dual  (215)  443-5830

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From: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: The Annex message network.
Date: 24 Dec 92 22:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 


               Not a computer network...a people network!

                           T H E  A N N E X

       The Annex is a small, quality QWK network dedicated to lively and
       thoughtful messaging on a variety of topics. Our emphasis is on
       discussion-oriented conferences, not technical ones.  Our sysops
       and administrative staff are committed to an atmosphere of
       consultation and collaboration among themselves and with our
       callers.  Your feedback is always welcome at The Annex!

 The Annex generated over 1,000 messages in it's first month of operation!

   All of our procedures/policies/info are open for review in NX1292.ZIP.
   It is available to you on any of our hubs or member boards.

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From: Emery.Mandel@f20.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Emery Mandel)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: SUPERBOARD
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 18:12:11 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/20 - Mercury Opus NEC360, St Petersburg FL

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--  
Internet: Emery.Mandel@f20.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG
UUCP:     ...!myrddin!tct!mechanic!20!Emery.Mandel
Note: Mechanic is a free gateway between USENET & FIdonet.
      For information write to chief@mechanic.fidonet.org

Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: postmaster@infoserv.com
Subject: Affordable UUCP/USENET for BBS operartors
Reply-To: postmaster@infoserv.com
Organization: InfoServ Connections
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 08:00:28 GMT



BBS operators,

If you want to carry USENET for your readers, consider InfoServ Connections
for your UUCP network link.

InfoServ Connections provides network services especially designed to
support the needs of end users with small systems* such as DOS, MAC, and
Unix/386. Our service features hassle free connections - we do all the
administrative drudge such as being your smart host for email address
resolution.

Our unique, menu-driven interface lets you change your USENET subscription
list as often as you wish, and our low rate ($10 - $15 per month) and none
restrictive license terms make us real viable alternative to Uunet and
PSI.

DIAL (408) 243-2102 2400/MNP/V.42, or 243-2104  V.32/PEP
(Modem support: 8 bit, 1 stop, No parity, 24hrs)

Type `begin' at the prompt and browse the features; then subscribe on-line!
No paper forms to fill out! 


*@*.*.*.*
|        /~~~~~~~~~\
INFOSERV/CONNECTIONS\     /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*@*.*.*.*
|______/             \___/ The Professional's Network

   Email: postmaster@infoserv.com
          uunet!infoserv!postmaster
   Voice: (408) 724-3446
                                   Copyright (C) 1991, All rights reserved.
 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: dejongdt@prl.philips.nl (Douwe de Jong)
Subject: testsub
Summary: testsum
Keywords: testkey
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:12:25 GMT

Indeed, nothing in it.
Remove this.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Patricia Snyder-Rayl)
Subject: Advertise your BBS in CONNECT
Organization: GREX Public Access Unix +1 313 761 3000
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 04:25:33 GMT



                    Advertise Your BBS in CONNECT!

CONNECT is a new magazine focusing on telecommunications from a user's
perspective, showing how to get the most from the places you call.  The
first bi-monthly issue of CONNECT will be available in March, 1993.
Deadline to get your BBS advertised in the premier issue of CONNECT is
January 31, 1993.

Issue after issue, CONNECT shows you how to get the most from the
commercial online services you're using -- CompuServe, Delphi, America
Online, Prodigy, GEnie and BIX. With columnists on staff to cover these
services in depth, you'll find CONNECT a valuable resource.

But CONNECT doesn't stop there. BBS callers also receive a wealth of
information from each issue. All varieties of computer platforms are
covered in the pages of CONNECT, as are the many different types of
bulletin board software and services found on these computers. Articles
spotlighting BBSes in specific cities or similar categories (such as
medical BBSes or handicapped-related systems) appear regularly.

Signing up your BBS is very simple and inexpensive. CONNECT offers a
choice of a one-line entry or a service ad, giving you blocks of 280
characters, to promote your BBS. 

For more information, and a copy of the BBS advertising form, please
contact Patricia Snyder-Rayl at 3487 Braeburn Circle, Ann Arbor, MI
48108, phone 313-973-8825, or via CIS (70007,4640), Delphi and GEnie
(unicornpub) or Internet (pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us).

(My apologies if I inadvertantly repeated this post here in this news group)
From: Eric.Kimmet@f148.n114.z1.fido.zeta.org.au (Eric Kimmet)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: T.V. BBS
Date: 28 Dec 92 08:36:00 GMT


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From: howard.smith@spacebbs.com (Howard Smith) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: New Hydrogen BBS
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: howard.smith@spacebbs.com (Howard Smith) 


                     !!! PROSPERITY WITHOUT POLLUTION !!!

                                Please call the
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                                 (415) 494-3116

                     SupraFaxModem  V.32bis  14400 baud  8N1
                                    24 hours
                            Sysop:  Howard H. Smith

                         AMERICAN HYDROGEN ASSOCIATION
                        210 South Siesta Lane, Suite 101
                             Tempe, AZ 85281   USA
                              Tel: (602) 921-0433

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: mark.terka@rose.com (mark terka)
Subject: Hedonism BBS
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:40:27 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 12-23-92 01:36
Does anyone know the number for the Hedonism BBS in Long Beach California?
Thanks in advance...


... ----->|*  MARK!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11
---
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: postmaster@infoserv.com
Subject: Affordable UUCP/USENET for BBS operartors
Reply-To: postmaster@infoserv.com
Organization: InfoServ Connections
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:00:06 GMT



BBS operators,

If you want to carry USENET for your readers, consider InfoServ Connections
for your UUCP network link.

InfoServ Connections provides network services especially designed to
support the needs of end users with small systems* such as DOS, MAC, and
Unix/386. Our service features hassle free connections - we do all the
administrative drudge such as being your smart host for email address
resolution.

Our unique, menu-driven interface lets you change your USENET subscription
list as often as you wish, and our low rate ($10 - $15 per month) and none
restrictive license terms make us real viable alternative to Uunet and
PSI.

DIAL (408) 243-2102 2400/MNP/V.42, or 243-2104  V.32/PEP
(Modem support: 8 bit, 1 stop, No parity, 24hrs)

Type `begin' at the prompt and browse the features; then subscribe on-line!
No paper forms to fill out! 


*@*.*.*.*
|        /~~~~~~~~~\
INFOSERV/CONNECTIONS\     /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*@*.*.*.*
|______/             \___/ The Professional's Network

   Email: postmaster@infoserv.com
          uunet!infoserv!postmaster
   Voice: (408) 724-3446
                                   Copyright (C) 1991, All rights reserved.
 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: dean@coplex.com (Dean Brooks)
Subject: Re: Affordable UUCP/USENET for BBS operartors
Organization: Copper Electronics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:17:48 GMT

steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) writes:

>I offer a free service to those that wish to use it which I believe for what
>it is intended to do is as reliable as any other service around (note I said
>for what it was intended to do). I have been runinng uucp sites now since
>1980 and (and I REPEAT AGAIN) still believe they should be free.

The information flowing through UUCP sites *is* free.  However, the
medium of transport for uucp (primarily voice grade telephone lines)
is not free - it costs *real* money to *real* people and businesses.

Our company spends approx $12000.00 a year in telephone costs for
uucp access.  We help defray the costs a bit by charging other sites
for news feeds.  Why should we give feeds out for free?  If we don't charge
for feeds, *WE* don't get a feed.

Sure, we could pick up a second rate feed from someone for much less
but reliability is more important than volume by far.  A usenet feed
is worthless (imo) if its unreliable.

Hence the point of my response: If uucp feeds were *all* free, no one
could afford the fricking telco charges and the flow of information
would be greatly restricted.

--
<><> Dean Brooks                             Internet:   dean@coplex.com
<><> System Administrator / Postmaster       CompuServe: 70672,2405
<><> Copper Electronics, Inc.
From: vital@whitebase.ukp.com (william j. vital)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: Re: CONNECT Magazine
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 08:27:55 EST
Organization: UKP Systems, Middletown, NJ

pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Patricia Snyder-Rayl) writes:
> Until February 28th, 1993, a year's subscription to CONNECT will be only
> $12. On March 1st, 1993, the normal subscription price of $18 per year goes
> into effect. This offer is available only to US addresses.
> 
> For more information, please contact Pegasus Press at 3487 Braeburn Circle,
> Ann Arbor, MI 48108 or phone (313) 973-8825.  For the fastest response and
> a copy of the subscription form, please email us at 
> pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us.
> Don't delay. Get CONNECTed today!
> 
Patricia,
Request you forward the above information/form to me:
William J. Vital
78 Clinton Ave.
Eatontown, NJ  07724-1801

Thanx
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
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From: mikep@pro-berks.cts.com (Mike Palamar)
Subject: Pro-Berks
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 21:13:32 EST

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From: ron.brandt@satalink.com (Ron Brandt) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: DSC BBS * IVYLAND, PA
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: ron.brandt@satalink.com (Ron Brandt) 

Give us a call ...

      Datamax/Satalink Connection    12/2400e  (215)  443-9434
      Ivyland, PA - Bucks County     V.32 Bis  (215)  443-7390
      ---------------------------    HST/Dual  (215)  443-5830

  Network E-mail from:     21 Nodes Featuring:      Adult Fun with:
--------------------------------------------------------------------
- Ilink    - InterNet       - PCBoard 14.5a       - Large Gif Area
- Rime     - AdultLink      - Qmail/MarkMail      - 130 Adult Sigs!
- FidoNet  - ThrobNet       - ASP Shareware       - Custom Scanning
- SmartNet - AfterDark      - 1,500 Sigs!         - Online Chat
- UseNet   - Annex          - 5+ Gigabytes        - Voice-Mail Boxes
--------------------------------------------------------------------
     The Philadelphia Inquirer calls DSC "Largest in the Area"
From: pbaker@tbag.tscs.com (Pete Baker)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: Re: SOME ONE TELL mE
Date: 3 Jan 93 00:32:20 EST
Organization: Tampa Bay Amiga Group

On Sun  3-Jan-1993 12:19a, Mark Foren wrote:

MF> I called this local Board that was listed in a MAGAZINE and it supposedly
MF> has 
MF> ELITE-Net ...and some sorta 0 day Files or Sumtin...Hmm Has anyone come 
MF> accross this system...It listed on in Tennesse 615-531-1779 that was down
MF> so i 
MF> called the Other one 313-254-6092...

MF> Call and Tell me what it is...

This has got to be a put on!  OK, who is this Mark fellow that is trying to pull our chains?

I mean really!  If this is a serious post, I am not sure who is more ignorant, the sysop that posted the advert, or mark for not being able to read between the lines.

Mark, if that is really what the advert said.. take a moment and think.  What person would tout having '0' Day Old Public Domain Wares?  And the nerve to list it as an ELITE system (meaning access granted only to CERTAIN Hi-Speed callers)....  All indicators are that this BBS is a Software Pirating Operation.  There are PRIVATE BBS systems around dedicated to a specific concept (services for a company, tech support, programmers only), but, the 0-Day wares and Elite access combo paints a very specific trade

mark.  

Again, if this is not a hoax question... Stay away from that BBS, many of them carry compressed disks with Virus programs in the boot blocks, or link file virus programs in the executables...  They, as a whole,  deal in speed. They care  not about file accuracy nor protection of thier callers.  And they thrive on cheating software writers out of thier well earned compensation.

--- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)

            _
Pete Baker { }
          ( V-) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
pbaker@tbag <or was it> tbag!pbaker@uunet.uu.net <maybe> pbaker@tbag.tscs.com
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: klaus@cscns.com (Klaus Dimmler)
Subject: Connecting a Galacticomm BBS to the Internet
Organization: Community_News_Service
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 14:56:31 GMT

Recently, I posted a message that brought news of our Galaticomm BBS
system being connected to the Internet. The response has been amazing! An
incredible 812 new accounts have been created from users that logged
onto the system through telnet in just two days. A flood of messages came
in that indicated there was lots of confusion as to what that Galacticomm
system could do. Because there were so many individual messages, I decided
to answer the main bulk of the confusion here...
 
First, let me explain that CNS is connected to the Internet via a
dedicated T1 through 2 SUN systems: a SUN SPARC 10 and a SUN 3/280. You
may check out these systems by loggin in as "new", using password "newuser".
On these systems, we support telnet, ftp, irc, wais, gopher, uucp, slip,
and point-to-point connections. We also support fax services, all
newsgroups including the ClariNet, and national 800 service.
 
We have connected to these SUN SYSTEMS a 486 running Galacticomm software.
This system has 32 lines local to Colorado Springs coming in. If you log
onto CNS with username "bbs", the system will connect you directly to this
system. In a nutshell, we have provided telnet access to the BBS by
connecting it to the Internet through our SUN systems. However, this did
not change the fundamental limits of the Galaticom software: It does not
support ftp, newsgroups, gopher, or most any other Internet feature. To
experience that, you must log into our UNIX system.
 
Having said that, most of you our there already have access to all those
Internet features. Logging onto a local BBS where the majority of users
don't even know what Internet is makes for an interesting mix of people.
The users on the BBS system are amazed to be talking live with someone
far away... this is something that Internet users take for granted. The
BBS has over 2000 active local users, very few of which understand the
Internet.  In fact, many are novice users of computers.. this is why the
menus may be more explicit that what you may be used to.
 
Anyway, I hope that this served to clarify some things..