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From: kenm@execu.execu.com (Kenneth Morse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Ethernet identifier
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:01:26 GMT
Organization: Comshare, Inc. Austin Development Center

>I am looking for a program that will give me the Ethernet address (not IP
>address) of a Mac. I want to run the program and determine the machine's
>ethernet address (from the ethernet card) without having to open up the
>case.
>
>Please respond via email if you know where I can locate a
>freeware/shareware program that does this.
>
>Scott Allen Gruby
>sgruby@jarthur.claremont.edu

You can get the Ethernet address by holding down the option key and clicking
on the Ethernet icon in the MacTCP cdev.
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From: rbowen@ntet.nctr.fda.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: lpr for Mac?
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:00:56 GMT
Organization: NATIONAL CENTER FOR TOXICOLOGICAL RESEARCH

Is there a public domain or commerical version of TCP/IP
for the MAC that supports telnet, ftp, and lpr?

Rick Bowen
RBOWEN@ntet.nctr.fda.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: df2tg2n@ties.bell-atl.com (Steve Rosen)
Subject: Supra ROM Upgrade
Reply-To: df2tg2n@shoes.bell-atl.com
Organization: Bell Atlantic - Phila, PA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:44:35 GMT

Anybody gotten and installed the latest Supra ROM upgrade?  Specifically is
anybody using the caller-id feature yet, how will that work?  I got my
mailer card a couple of weeks ago, but no ROM received as yet.  They
promised within a week. Yea, right!

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                     E-Mail: steve.rosen@bell-atl.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sbpress@csws18 (Gregory Forte)
Subject: Re: SLIP, PPP, and ARA
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:34:48 GMT

rpd@twinkletoes.sbi.com (Richard P. Daley) writes:
: I'm interested in running MacTCP-based applications on my mac at home,
: to connect to SparcStations at work, and I've got a few questions.
: Can anyone help me out?
: 
: 1) Does anyone know whether there are any PPP implementations for the mac
: which would give me similar functionality to the SLIP implementations?
: 
: 2) I've heard comments that implied that PPP is somehow better than
: SLIP.  Does anyone know if this is true, and in what respect?
: 
: 3) Has anyone succeeded in running MacTCP over ARA?  Is the performance
: worse than SLIP?  Does anyone have any numbers?
: 
: 4) I've succeeded in getting SLIP to connect from my mac to a SparcStation
: at work.  I used the SLIP that comes with the new Versaterm and I installed
: a SLIP streams module in my SparcStation that I found on the internet.
: However, this streams module does not support CSLIP.  I found one that
: does, but it was called "cslipbeta" and it contains a README that claims
: the code is very experimental.  Is anyone using this version?  Is it more
: stable than the README would lead me to believe?  Or, is there another CLSIP
: implementation I can use with SunOS?
: 
: Thanks for any insight...
: Rick Daley
: rdaley@sbi.com
I would be interested in this informations too.
	Thanks sbpress@ic.sunysb.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: gator06@hammond.cs.unlv.edu (James Tilley)
Subject: Re: Two modems at the same time ?
Reply-To: gator06@hammond.cs.unlv.edu (James Tilley)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 18:59:17 GMT

In article <1be73iINNkn9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ar660@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pasi Korhonen) writes:

) Anybody ever tried using two modem on the same machine, in different ports,
) different phone lines, different term progs ?  Or same prg, and switch ports ?
) How's it gonna work ? Potential troubles ? One possible use could be having
) a faxmodem receiving faxes from another line and have a data modem session on
) the other. Comments ?

I do this all the time.  I run a BBS, currently only on one line, but I
also call out with a second modem to other BBSes or to school while people
are on the BBS.  No problems at all.
-- 
James Tilley
InterNet:     gator06@unlv.edu
SysOp   :     The Vulgar Unicorn BBS (702) 435-2179
From: rob@netnews.louisville.edu (Rob Miracle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Local talk problems
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:24:15 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

We encountered a strange problem yesterday (to us at least). First, my back-
ground is in 10BASE-T ethernet (LanManager and NetWare).  I am new to this
Mac business.  

Anyway, the problem, we plugged a Powerbook 145 into our Phonenet Localtalk
segment yesterday.  The Appletalk adapter was fine and it worked for a while.
She (the powerbook owner) had mounted a Novell Netware drive (routed in the
server via a Dayna DL2000 card) and was working with it.  Suddenly she got
a message that said that she had lost connection with the server.  The server
was fine and no one else on Localtalk was affected.  The 145 can't see the
network (no zonelist in Chooser) and from the Netware file server Name lookup
you can't see the Powerbook.  Now if you unplug one of the RJ-11's from the
Phonenet connector (side that attaches to next node, which is the terminated
node), the Powerbook showes up, but the rest of the names disappear.  None of
the other nodes can use the network until the terminator is plugged in.

This Powerbook is near the end of the chain.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks
Rob


-- 
Rob Miracle
rwmira01@vlsi.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: eakaftan@isluga.puc.cl (Eduardo Kaftanski Arancibia)
Subject: Re: where can I get MacSlip
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:19:19 GMT

Mark Sproul (Sproul@sproul.sproul.com) wrote:
: Is there some place that I can FTP MacSlip from
: 
: Thanks
: 
: -------------------------------------
: Mark Sproul - KB2ICI

Legally I don't think so. MacSLIP is a commercial product from
Hyde Park Soft. so FTP here will be piracy.

Sorry!.

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eakaftan@isluga.puc.cl
ekaftan@ing.puc.cl

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Edward.Visse@wblab.lu.se (Edward Visse)
Subject: NCSA-Telnet 2.5 HELP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Wallenberg Lab. - University of LUND
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:43:57 GMT

Hi
Telnet 2.5 messes up my keyboard: the lowest line of char:ie. "zxc.." etc.
are moved to the left one key. I don't have SPACE or RETURN anymore. And
some other characters have moved f.ex. "()-+?". I use a Mac+ with an old
keyboard with a seperate keypad, system 7.0 and Swedish or USA
characterset. Anyone got an idea???

Edward
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Change Red Ryder's dial attempt limit?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:42:17 GMT

woodcock@crchh427.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Gregg Woodcock) writes:

>Let's say somebody wanted to make the phonebook autodial more
>interactive and user intensive by changing the maximum number
>of dial attempts to number smaller than 15.  That way you could
>have it autodial only 4 or 5 times before you gave up and decided
>to try another BBS. 

Doesn't 10.3 have a Dial or Redial... menu item? Change the settings there.
Better yet; write a procedure to do it. I never use the phone book.

>I am using Red Ryder 10.3 (is that the
>last version before it went commercial and changed to White
>Knight?)

I think 9.4 was one of the last PD versions. 10.3 is commercial methinks.

>P.S.  I am asking this for a friend.
>P.P.S.  This is purely a hypothetical discussion.
>P.P.P.S.  On second thought forget I brought it up.

   In that case, learn how to abort a @$&#* message.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: martin@DMI.USherb.CA (Jean-francois Martin)
Subject: Need advice on communication pgm...
Reply-To: martin@DMI.USherb.CA
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. De Mathematiques et D'Informatique
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:33:27 GMT

Hi netters...

Can someone give me his or her advice of communication software on the Mac. 
What I want from this software is:

* the ability to create macros in interactive mode
* support for zmodem, xmodem, ymodem, kermit, macbinary, ascii, etc.
* the ability to captude theincoming text
* background doiwnloading
* neat user interface (this exclude WhiteKnight I think...)
* full control over communication setting (baud, etc.)

I already have Zterm 0.9 for my LC but It bombs very often and it's not a
real full fonctional communication package.

Thanks for all who will take the time to share their knowledge.

JF Martin
Future communication software buyer.
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From: nets17@gac.edu (Sten Severson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: TALK to a VAX
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:39:29 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: GAC

In article <0101001C.fergak@twisty.eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca>,
andyb@twisty.eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Andy Babinszki) wrote:
> 
> 
> In article <1ao2h1INN21i@koh-sun1.usc.edu> (comp.sys.mac.comm), chaoyang@koh-sun1.usc.edu (Chao Yang) writes:
> > 
> > I know that UNIX system has a talk command which lets you talk to a friend. 
> > Does anybody know how to TALK to a host or whatever in a VAX system?  Thanks
> > a lot.
> > 
> 
> I presume you mean VAX-VMS; you might try the VMS phone utility. 
> At the VMS prompt type "HELP PHONE" for a breif description.
> 
> AB.

Sorry but not quite right.  Phone and Talk are two different things.  New
versions of the VAX-VMS do support /talk/  as well as phone.  To see if
talk is supported just try typing in the command  /talk/ at the DCL ($)
prompt.  If you get a response it should tell you that it doesn't
recongnise the command or that it needs someone to try to talk to.  Enter
your friend's login@host.domain and if that person is logged in and their
machine supports talk, then your friend will get a ring message.  
Phone works similarly, if you need help on either do use the help command
as AB tells you.

Sten Severson
<nets17@gac.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: rrwood@canrem.com (limited shell account - Roy Wood)
Subject: Re: ToadNews
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:04:27 GMT
Keywords: ToadNews

In article <1992Oct14.184448.9107@actrix.gen.nz> Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>The rnMac help screen doesn't tell you what file organisation it
>wants, but a little fiddling around determined that it wants one text
>file per message (Yeeech!! There goes 4K of my disk for every message...),
>organised into nested folders by newsgroup.  The names of the message
>files should be numbers.

True-- it is a pain.  However, that's the way ToadNews unbatches 'em,
and it was the easiest way to write the program.  Sorry that the block
size on your hard drive is 4K.  My wimpy Classic uses only 0.5K blocks.

>I'm pretty happy with my hacked-together news unbatcher, until someone
>comes along with a free program that works better.  In fact I'd say
>that the weak point in the system at the moment is rnMac, which isn't
>worth anything like $25 bucks at the moment.  (Before the author
>flames me, I'll just add that it's only version 0.1.3b and there's a
>lot of potential there.)

No offense taken.  Just beware when the trojan wakes up and eats your hard
drive alive :)   Seriously though, I haven't done much with rnMac lately,
nor will I get much chance to do so for a while.  But how can you really
complain about *free* software?  (assuming you haven't mailed me a money
order, that is)  My longterm goal is to use a modified form of rnMac as
a mail/newsreader in the Mac lab at the highschool where I teach, so I'm
most interested in just getting the AppleTalk "NNTP" server running at
this point.  In the meantime, I am taking note of the suggestions people
are making, and I will eventually implement them.

I'm glad that people are actually using rnMac at this point.  Just remember
that it is only shareware, so temper your expectations accordingly.  

-Roy Wood

p.s. for those of you who are still looking for it, rnMac is a newsreader
     designed for use with UUPC and ToadNews.  You need all three to make
     your Mac pretend to be a uucp site capable of receiving/sending news
     and mail.  Actually, you should probably get FernMail too if you want
     to do mail in any reasonable manner.

     UUPC, FernMail, and rnMac are all available via ftp from places like
     sumex-aim.stanford.edu.  ToadNews is still being worked on by John
     Mah, and he's grown tired of sending it to people, so beware of
     pestering him directly.  With luck, he'll release it soon and you
     can ftp it yourself....
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Two modems at the same time ?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 01:10:41 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <mike_steiner-131092154201@192.35.50.131> (comp.sys.mac.comm), mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
> What I found that doesn't work well at all is calling from one modem to the
> other modem on the same computer.  I tried that when testing my BBS a few
> years ago.

I now do *this* all the time also for testing purposes. If you code
your Macintosh application properly, it will all work just fine under
MultiFinder.


tim endres - time@ice.com  -or- tbomb!time
ICE Engineering, Inc - 8840 Main St, Whitmore Lake, MI 48189
Phone (313) 449 8288 - FAX (313) 449-9208
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From:  ()
Subject: Re: TALK on Macintosh ? Which programs ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:58:25 GMT

In article <kepJ=LK00WA100zcNZ@andrew.cmu.edu>, sk4i+@andrew.cmu.edu
(Samuel John Kass) wrote:
> 
> 
> 	Talk won't work with many variations of UNIX talk, unless you're in a
> "name table."  That means a fixed IP address, which is just about
> impossible to assure using LocalTalk.
> 	--Sam
Not true... Just ask you nameserver administrator to establish entries
like:
fastpath01.xx.yy.zz
fastpath02.xx.yy.zz
etc. 
for all the IP addresses your fastpath manages. Then every address that the
fastpath can hand out to a Mac has an associated domain name. It may be
useful if the final digits in the first portion of the name match the final
octet of the IP address. Of course if a Mac gets its IP address dynamically
from the fastpath that address may well change on each reboot, but it still
has a domain name.

Dr. Ron Haines
School of Chemistry, University of New South Wales
Kensington, 2033, Australia
Internet mail: R.Haines@unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: howes@cat16.cs.wisc.edu (Glenn Howes)
Subject: Re: Zterm and sz MacBinary Handshaking
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:02:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.185557.9733@eff.org> hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs) writes:
>sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steven Dorner) writes:
>
>>In article <1238@shrike.com>, flash@austin.lockheed.com (James W. Melton)
>>wrote:
>>> First of all, to my knowledge, there are only TWO forks in a Mac
>>> file (resource and data).
>
>>There are two forks, but there is also other assorted information, such as
>>the name of the file, the type and creator, the flag bits, the custom icon,
>>different versions of the filename, the desktop comment, etc..  Depending
>>on your file format, some or all of this information is also encoded in the
>>file.  This information may collectively be viewed as a third "fork", for
>>compactness in terminology.
>
>That's true except that it's called a header and has nothing whatsoever
>to do with the Macintosh file system.  Instead it's part of sending a file
>from <here> to <there>.  Calling it a "third fork" will just confuse people
>and require that you repeat the explaination you just made.


There is an extension built into the macbinary format that allows the
inclusion of the Finder comments after the data and resouce forks. This
is not part of the header and could be considered a third fork by the
decoding and encoding applications as in error messages of the form
"comment fork length does not match header". 

For those interested in the macbinary format it's specifications are
kept at ftp.apple.com in the dts/mac/docs/macbinary (this is from
memory) directory.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: pcsam@ecs.comm.mot.com ()
Subject: GatorMail-M and MSMail problem
Organization: Motorola Penang
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:11:19 GMT


I am currently running GatorMail-M 2.1 with Microsoft Mail 3.1 server on
Quadra-700 with System-7.  I have also installed the version 3.1 
"MS Mail GW" chooser document into the server System/Extension folder.

Currently the GatorMail-M is running fine except once the MSMail server 
is restarted, the GatorMail-M is not able to communicate with the
MSMail server, the error code is :
   ERROR: (-8992) Unable to signal MS Gateway: ML

However, once I manually open the <Chooser> and select the "MS Mail GW",
the problem go away. Currently, I am using "MS Mail Backup" to automatic
backing up my Mail data daily, and this will force the MSMail server to
shutdown and restart again. This also means that I have to manually open
the  <Chooser> and select the "MS Mail GW" every day in order for GatorMail
to work. Is there any solution to this ?


Regards,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: creiman@netcom.com (Charles Reiman)
Subject: Re: Mac to Mac file transfer by modem?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:21:46 GMT

hector@cs.toronto.edu (Hector Levesque) writes:

>Sorry if these have been covered before:

>1. What are the options these days (PD, shareware, or commercial) for
>transferring files between two Macs with modems over phone lines?

>2. Are there any Mac/Unix combinations that will allow the Mac to answer phone
>calls from Unix-based systems and upload requested files?

>Thanks for any help!

I'd suggest MacKermit. Although it is rough around the edges and slow, kermit
is by far the most reliable and painless file transfer mechanism I have ever
used. MacKermit can act as a server as well as a client so you only need one
program. Plus, it's free. 
-- 
Charlie Reiman             |                  creiman@netcom.com
"This week, Ross Perot guaranteed his place in the record books by playing
peek-a-boo with nearly 250 million people simultaneously."
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Is MacTCP+ Tool still needed for MacTCP 1.1.1?
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:15:37 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <1992Oct14.144455.20505@meteor.wisc.edu> hechtel@meteor.wisc.edu (Leslie Hartten) writes:
>
>We have a Plus with 4MB of memory and a tuned System 7.0.1.  We've tried
>replacing MacTCP 1.1 several times, and running the patch from apple on
>it too, to no avail.  Some things of note:
>  -  when we pick MacTCP in the control panel, we see no localtalk icon.
>  -  when we try to start up telnet, we get a sequence of error boxes:
>       1) "error opening TCP drivers possibly no dynamic addressing"
>       2) "could not initialize hardware level network driver"
>       3) "can't open config file"  (opening the config file at
>              this point just sends one back to #2)
>
This is the exact same error I've been battling on MacSE's and MacSE/30's 
with ethernet cards.  The same macs work fine on Appletalk, but when I 
select ethernet in MacTCP, I get the same three errors above.  NewsWatcher 
and TurboGopher don't work either.  I don't know if the problem is hardware, 
software, or something else.  If there is anyone out there with MacTCP 
working on MacSE's with Emac ethernet cards I would love to hear how you did 
it...

___
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Acadia University, Computer Centre            FAX: 902-542-4364
Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada, B0P 1X0  Internet: Paul.Steele@acadiau.ca
From: racsho@cbs.canon.co.jp (Takanori ``Racsho'' Nishijima)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Supra BBS
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:26:32 GMT
Organization: Peripherals Development Center 1, Canon Inc., Tokyo, JAPAN
In-reply-to: fredb@pro-freedom.cts.com's message of 15 Oct 92 04:59:02 GMT

Hello.

In article <1992Oct14.215902.2631@pro-freedom.cts.com>, fredb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Fred Brock) writes:

 > I've tried numerous times to connect with the Supra BBS using a Supra
 > v32.bis faxModem, without success. I've tried at speeds from 57600 down to
 > 1200 baud, no change. I'm using Zterm, which usually connects with bbs's
 > with no problem. I tried calling Supra voice, but got no real help. I'm
 > using 8/0/1 settings. The line rings; the data tone starts, it just never
 > connects. Help!

Try with 7/E/1.

I've connected to Supra BBS from Japan several times
with this setting.
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