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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: PM print dialogs
From: gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon)
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:46:38 GMT
Keywords: printing PM

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>In article <gershon.727579561@husc.harvard.edu> gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon) writes:
>>What kind of dialog does PM give you when you try to print?  I have

>>Also, I only have one printer object, why does it ask me which printer?

>>By the way... the dialog for the Mac has this great option "odd pages/
>>even pages only" for printing on both sides: first you print the odd
>>pages, then feed the output pages back into the printer and print the
>>even pages on the other side.
>>(In general I like the WPS and I think it is more intelligent and treats
>>the user more intelligently than the Mac interface, but often I think
>>IBM could learn alot by studying the details on the mac...)

>I agree with you on the even page/odd page handling -- that would be a
>nice feature.  However, I would like to point out that OS/2's printer
>objects are deceptively simple in design, but they are remarkably
>powerful.  For example, there are timed printing features -- if you
>want to print something in the middle of the night, you can schedule
>it.  I don't believe the Macintosh has this feature.

>-- 
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The mac does not have this feature, and I agree that it is a good
idea.  As I said, the WPS is often more intelligent than the mac, but
the compare the Mac's Control Panel with WPS' system setup folder and
you'll see why I think the details are handled so much better on the Mac
(note also that mac has had 7 versions and almost 10 years to work on this...)

                                                  --Ethan Gershon
                                                    gershon@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: roland@spock.uucp (David A. Braun)
Subject: Re: This is a BETA???
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:14:50 GMT

In article <C14Dw3.oz3@austin.ibm.com> gthome@dss1.austin.ibm.com writes:
>In <1993Jan19.170633.508@hubcap.clemson.edu> gdeniso@hubcap.clemson.edu (Gregory W Denisowski) writes:
>>In article <enk2.46.727405482@po.cwru.edu> enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:
>>>In article <anderson.58.727395899@mayo.edu> anderson@mayo.edu (Alfred I. Anderson) writes:
>>
>>[ Nicely addressing the problem of WIN/OS2 3.1 hanging 1/3 of the time
>>  after exiting windows...]
>>
>>>Anyone else or should I just lead my 386/25 to the barn and shoot it?
>>
>>If someone tells you its your machine, then take mine to the barn too
>>and have old Betsy consume the leftovers after the slaying.  Mine
>>hangs all the time after exiting.
>>--
>>--- _________________________________________________________________________
>>   /______________________________________________________________________/ |
>>   | Mr. Gregory W Denisowski   |                |   Rent this space!     | |
>>   |                            |                |  Competitive Rates!    | |
>
Same Here, ALL the time... BUT, I HAVE A SOLUTION!!!!! Just click on another
program as soon as you confirm exiting Win-OS2... it seems that it won't 
crash as long as Win-OS2 is NOT the active process when it exits... (I just
click on the clock that I leave in the Upper Right of my screen...).

<roland>

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 Extended memory... Expanded memory..."!! !!"UNRECOVERABLE APPLICATION ERROR"!!
 Well it worked with DOS, and it doesn't with OS2...  Must be
 the OS... The fact that the BIOS was HARDWIRED incorrectly couldn't
 have anything to do with it, Right?     -----Roland of Gilead-----   }
From: ted@isgtec.com (Ted Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Problems with SIO_034 (was ... OS/2 COMM program(s))
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:51:42 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc. Mississauga Ont. Canada
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Vladek Komorek (vladek@vkom.fidonet.org) wrote:

: Tuesday January 19 1993, Jeremy Mathers writes to All:

:  JM> I am thinking of switching comm drivers
:  JM> to the SIO/VSIO stuff.  Would this help?

: SIO/VSIO 0.34 comm. driver will solve your problem.
: I run Fido BBS under OS/2 (DOS window) with ZyXEL 16800 baud, locked at 57600 without any problem.
: Vladek

Could you please explain what settings you used?  I tried these drivers
with Telix 3.20 (with os2speed running), and found that

1. Zmodem downloads ran just marginally slower (mostly just as it first
   started - the first few blocks were slower than with COM.SYS).

2. Zmodem upload speeds dropped from ~1050-1100 cps to ~80 cps.

3. Telix did not steal as much of the foreground CPU cycles when running
   in the background - a foreground OS/2 program running LOADDSKF seemed
   to run faster than when using COM.SYS.

4. When the same program (LOADDSKF) was running in the background, it
   ran far slower than with COM.SYS - by a factor of 5 or 10.

I tried running Telix with the original IDLE_SENSITIVITY=100 and
IDLE_SECONDS=60, and with IDLE_SENSITIVITY=<some small number> and
IDLE_SECONDS=0.  I tried running with COM_DIRECT_ACCESS both ON and OFF.
Nothing helped.

I was running sio_034 on a 486/33DX, with a NS 16550AFN chip and an ATI
9600etc/e V.32/V.42bis modem.  I normally get ~1100 cps for for zmodem
uploads and downloads, with Telix running perfectly happily in the
background.  It does slow down other programs somewhat, though.

Needless to say, I have gone back to COM.SYS, but I would like to hear
from someone who has it working.

--
Ted Richards            ted@isgtec.com             [...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ted]
ISG Technologies Inc.   6509 Airport Rd., Mississauga  Ont.  Canada   L4V 1S7
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Speed in 2.1b
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:45:43 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <enk2.63.727572556@po.cwru.edu> enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:
>I have noticed an improvement in the video driver performance (I run a 
>Trident and I used to run the 800x600x256 CSD-compatable drivers.)  Could 
>this supposed performance increase/decrease be attributed to the change in 
>the DISKCACHE= variable in the CONFIG.SYS?

Yes.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Wish List
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:01:06 GMT

jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin) writes:

>In article <RUB.93Jan24173507@solarium.aero.org> rub@aero.org (Jerzy W. Rub) writes:
>>How about:
>>
>>11.  A shutdown with just one prompt.  I am looking for a way to avoid
>>getting prompts from all the running applications and telling each one that
>>yes, I want its window closed.  Or perhaps there is a way to do this and I
>>should read manuals?

>This is especially a pain with the TCP/IP package and running a lot of
>the options...they all run from separate command shells.  What a pain.

>I don't see a solution for this, except to give them all a rudimentary
>pm interface, so that they can respond to the shutdown themselves.

A simple solution would be a yes, no, all, cancel option in
the message that ask if you want to close a vdm or os/2 app.

Erik


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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2.1b bug and editorial comment on killing processes
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:12:01 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

hayesb@yvax.byu.edu writes:

> You listening IBM?

If you want to talk to IBM, this is the wrong place to do it.  Try
calling their technical support number.

-- 
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pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                    | does not read the manuals."
**** Happy user of OS/2 2.0 ****        | Libes & Ressler, *Life with UNIX*
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Scrolling performance (was Re: OS/2 Wish List)
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:21:03 GMT

Ola Sigurdson (d89os@efd.lth.se) wrote:

> The above may be true, but it isn't the main reason for the slow
> scrolling in the command windows. The problem is, I think, that
> the window client code is inefficient to the point of being broken:
> When the window scrolls up one line, each line is redrawn separately.
> (The correct way to do it is of course to bitblt the window one line
> up, and then draw the bottom line.)
>   As an example, compare the scrolling speeds for the System Editor and
> a command window, using similar fonts. You should find that the
> scrolling is quite acceptable for the System Editor, and that it is
> atrocious for the command window (even with coprocessed graphics).

Another aspect is the fact that OS/2 seems to use software emulation of the
superior hardware features of these cards instead of the hardware code. In
a DOS box you can turn off VIDEO_ROM_EMULATION and I got a 5 times
improvement in scrolling speeds but my OS/2 windows are still far too slow.
I have developped the habit of entering 'cls' before _every_ command I
execute - and this actually saves me time!!!!

This applies both to the built in SPP SVGA ET4000 support and the 'leaked
trident' generic drivers on my ET4000.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: imbri_m@aelle.cs.odu.edu (I want my OREOS!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Summit Express 250 meg Tape Drive.
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:03:16 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va


I have a Summit Express 250 meg Tape Drive, and I am wondering if there 
any software available for it yet?  Please email any replies.

imbri_m@cs.odu.edu
From: lu-chien-ping@cs.yale.edu (Chien-Ping Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Installation refuses to continue (OS/2 2.0)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 13:40:34 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: category.systemsz.cs.yale.edu

I am a new comer ot OS/2. Sorry if it is like noise to this news
group.

After I prepareed disk partitions, and has gone thru disk #5.
The screen showed :
	The hard disk partition is complete. The next step step
	will be OS/2 system configuration. Remove the diskette from
	the diskette drive. Please the enter key to start OS/2
	system configuration.
	
I followed the instruction, but only heard a beep. Nothing going on.
My system is G2K 4DX33V with 8 meg ram and 200M hard disk. Of course
the display card is the nasty ATI Graphic Ultra Pro. 
I choose to install Boot manager at the end of the hard disk.
Any comment, sugggestion, help?

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: Re: OS2 beta install problem
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 05:42:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1993Jan23.141618.16770@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> alex@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Alexander Jung) writes:
>
>but when I try to install it I wont get further than disk1.
>I can boot from disk0, and at that deep blue IBM screen
>I insert disk1 as I'm asked to. Then the black screen
>with those four os2-logos appears and a 
>message 'loading please wait' . After some floppy
>activity the logos go away and only the 'Loading,
>please wait' is in the upper third of the screen.
>Shortly after that the machine stops with the following
>error:
>The system detected an internal processing
>error at location ##0160:fff60967 - 000d:9967
>60000, 9084
>
>048600b4
>Internal revision 6.479, 92/12/09
>The system is stopped. Record the location number
>of the error and contact your service representative
>
>After that only a cold reboot brings the machine
>back to life.
>my setup is: 486DX/50,128K Cache, 16MB, ET4000 1MB,
>Maxtor 210MB AT-bus, Logitech serial Mouse
>

Interesting.  I once had a trap 000e with an internal processing error 
at the very same location, with the 2.1 beta, when trying to
shot it off (2.1 beta).  I got all the flags noted somewhere; but
the problem is not reproducible.

I had no difficulty (i.e., no unexpected difficulty, which is not to
say that I approve of the installation procedure, especially the
cryptic fdisk options) to install 2.1, though.

Luc B


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wkn@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ken Neighbors)
Subject: minimize mouse movement (was Re: 2.1 bugs, suggestions.)
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Summary: mouse driver is too slow!
Keywords: mouse, slow
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 08:25:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.072101.28604@weyrich.UUCP> uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville writes:
>While we are talking about features to minimize mouse movement -- how about
>putting the CLOSE option at the top of the pull-down menu invoked by the
>top left corner of a window? 9 times out of 10, if I open the menu, that's what
>I want to do, rather than having to hunt down the list to find it at some
>window-dependent place in the list?

How about making the mouse pointer move further across the screen for the
same amount of mouse movement!  My wrist gets sore from having to pick up
my mouse so often and put it back down just because I've run out of
mousepad space.  (I'm using a 1024x768 resolution. Can't IBM skip some
pixels or something?)  I remember hearing that they made a double speed for
PS/2 mice or something similar a while back, but what about everyone else?

Ken Neighbors
wkn@leland.stanford.edu
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and the Gravis Ultrasound
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:53:49 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan24.195713.26745@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ron Jones) writes:
>>You may also want to remind Gravis that it isn't exactly a problem
>>getting and OS/2 MMPM/2 compatible sound adapter.  Creative Labs
>>SoundBlasters come with OS/2 drivers, and MediaVision's are in beta.
>>(There's also IBM's M-Audio adapter.)  Since the competition seems so
>>interested, perhaps they'll want to hop on the bandwagon, too.
>Where can I get information  on IBM's M-Audio adapter? Do they have an ISA
>version?

Both AT bus and Microchannel bus versions are available.  Either one
is $235 through IBM Direct (800-IBM-2-YOU, U.S. only) or $222
educational (order on campus).

There's a little bit of information on them in the PS/2 Pricing and
Configuration Utility, available via anonymous ftp from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Look for filename icpausa.zip (or something roughly
equivalent).  Check file /pub/os2/00Index for location.

You can also get information on any IBM multimedia hardware or
software by calling the IBM Multimedia Information Center (see the
OS/2 FAQ List for the telephone number).

M-Audio is a pretty decent adapter, as far as I can tell, and the
price tag isn't outrageous.  I would also take a look at the Creative
Labs SoundBlaster series, by the way.

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From: h198@hosp.med.umich.edu  (Gene Mangum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Where is OS/2 Beta C++set/2 2.1?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993  14:38 EDT
Organization: Univ of Michigan Hospitals
Distribution: world
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In Article <C1AuxD.45G@DMI.USherb.CA> "lavog00@DMI.USherb.CA (GUYLAIN LAVOIE)" says:
> Hi all,
>        I saw that OS/2 Toolkit/2 2.1 is on hobbes, but where is
> IBM C++set/2?  I'm asking this because a lots of peoples are
> using it, must I have a CDROM?
 
  [.sig Deleted]
 
  As far as I know, the C++ compiler, C compiler, Workframe, etc. beta
  versions are only available to members of the Developer's Assistance
  Program (DAP).   If you're a programmer, I'd encourage you to apply
  for the DAP - either through Compu$erve or by calling (800) 3IB-MOS2.
  You can get the above mentioned plus tons more on CD for $15.

+=================================+=========================================+  
| Gene Mangum                     |  OS/2 ver 2 - Increased productivity    |
| Univ of Michigan Hospitals      |               through the use of a      |
| h198@hosp.med.umich.edu         |               "dead" operating system.  |
+=================================+=========================================+
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: guy@st.ife.ethz.ch (Guy Morbach)
Subject: Alt-Tab mechanism
Summary: Alt-Tab mechanism in OS/2 different from Windows, why?
Keywords: Alt-Tab
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:18:23 GMT

does anybody know why the Alt-Tab mechanism in OS/2 is different from
the one in Windows (or Win-OS/2) ?
I would like to switch back and forth between two windows/sessions
 without having to call the task manager every time,
this would be especially helpful for switching between two Full screen
sessions.
BTW what's the exact difference between Alt-Tab and Alt-Esc?
Is this all in the docs, am I missing something?

Have fun
-Guy

IH8vi
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: robert.heuman@rose.com (robert heuman)
Subject: ATI svga winos2 quest
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 08:44:28 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-24-93 03:34
ltlowe@bnr.ca (Todd Lowe) wrote:
re: ATI svga winos2 question
 
> I just got OS2 2.1 installed today, and am very pleased with the ATI wonder
> 1024x768x256 driver except for two things:
>    
>    -  The palette manager doesn't seem to work.  If I open something 
>       With lots of colors in either OS/2 or Seemless Windows, then 
>       the palette changes, but not to the picture opened, and then 
>       doesn't change back, so my 256 color app has the wrong colors
>       and my WPS has the wrong colors.
> 
>    -  I am pleased with being able to have seemless windows in this 
>       resolution, but I don't like the font size for the windows apps.
>       It looks like a standard Windows 3.1 driver with Large Fonts
>       instead of Small Fonts.  I prefer the small fonts, and even have
>       at least one application that won't work with the large ones.

I would like to know if the ATI driver supports 1024x768x16 colours. 
My ATI VGAWonder+ has its max of 512K RAM and that limits me to 16 
colours at this resolution.  My monitor will NOT run at 800x600 with 
this video card, either, so the choice is 1024x767 or 640x480, and I 
HATE 640x480.

Anyone with experience with the new driver - please let me know.

Thanks in advance....

Bob
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: markus@edfd.uucp (Markus Gruenkorn (MAGIC))
Subject: OS2, Trantor SCSI +, Sytos Plus, Tandberg Streamer ?
Keywords: Trantor, Sytos, Tandberg
Organization: EDAG, ENGINEERING + DESGIN AG, Fulda, FRG
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:35:12 GMT


Hi guys !
My configuration/equipment :
- IBM clone 486 33 Mhz 16 MB
- Trantor SCSI + (T348), device driver date 18.09.92
- Streamer Tandberg 3800
- Backup Soft. Sytos Plus V1.35 for OS2 2.0
- OS OS2 2 2.0 with bug fixings installed
- AT Bus COntroller

We don't get the Streamer to work. If anybody has a similar configuration I would
like to see his config.sys or to get some hints how to configure the system.
Any information would be appreciated !
Thanks in advance !

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From: lyle@netcom.com (Lyle Fong)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: HP Deskjet 500 Printer Help Needed.. OS/2 2.1 Beta
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:16:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I installed OS/2 2.1 Beta with the HP Deskjet 500 Driver.. printer is 
connected to LPT1, IRQ 5 currently.  When I try to print, it just
thinks the printer is offline or something.. giving me an abort/retry
message.  THe printer seems to be about the print something, but doesn't.
It works fine in native Dual-Booted DOS or Windows.  I tried switching
around the IRQ's.. from 7 to 5, and vice versa.. but nothing seems
to work.. anyone else have this problem, or know how to solve it?

And another less important question.. one day, the words/letters under
the icons on my desktop decided to enlarge themselves.. look like bold-flace
..err.. bold-face 12 pt or something.. how do I change it back?

Thanks.. =)

Lyle

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From: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Another Trident driver :-) W800V - anyone?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:39:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.5.23

Anyone using the new W800V driver for Trident SVGA?

It purports to offer 800*600*16 seamless, with 1024*1018 virtual desktop 
support. Now I haven't even tried the "Trident" 32-bit drivers since I like 
the 16-bit 800*600*256 VDD so much, and when I saw a new VDD including 
seamless WinOS2 support, I thought, Whoopee! Mega-desktop time!

I installed it OK, DISPLAY.DLL in a new directory just like it says in the 
SP README, after backing up changed files and making the appropriate changes 
to CONFIG.SYS and SVGADATA.PMI, and it came up straight away. It's a VDD all 
right, love it! It's 16-colour all right, not so great but I'll survive. It'
s seamless all right, I used the Drives object to find EXCEL.EXE, changed 
its settings to WinOS2 Windowed, double-clicked, and yep, Excel started 
seamless!

That was pretty thrilling, but then I tried to get Excel to load a file, and 
the menu kept disappearing from under the mouse pointer. Then it hung. 
BRS :-( Then STARTUP.CMD hung. BRS :-( A few more iterations of this, 
including CHKDSKing from floppy, and I went back to the 800*600*256 VDD.

Anyone get W800V to work? The W800V.DOC says I need the latest VSVGA.SYS and 
BVHSVGA.DLL, dated 10/25/92, but I can't find them anywhere - the SP ones 
are dated 10/16/92, and even software.watson.ibm.com has these files dating 
back to July!

Any other suggestions? I've got my hands on my dream driver, but it's broken 
just now...

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From: ucgadkw@ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: more OS/2 2.1 beta experiences
Keywords: bug OS/2 2.1 beta
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:08:52 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

I sometimes have trouble switching from a winos2 2.1b enhanced session
back to the WPS:  the screen blanks out.  Sometimes the whole machine
hangs, and needs a cold boot.  Same (sometimes) when quitting from
winso2 2.1b enhanced.

Dominik