HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Freenet
Date: 27 Sep 1992 16:03:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


	Freenet is the public access board where which Brett has an account.
Freenet is run by INS, which is affiliated with Case Western Reserve University.
Freenet is run very liberally, and very rarely intercedes on posts. Usually,
they leave any control, language rules, and possible censoring to the board-
moderator of the particular board. If the particular board's moderator has 
decided to allow vulgarity, or if there isn't one, then they allow pretty 
much anything, including personal slanders, etc. Most direct their vulgarities
to the appropriate boards, such as flame, etc. About the only thing they will
censor is sensitive posts, which may endanger INS, national security, etc...
Meaning, they don't want to anger the local government. IE. they WILL delete
any and all child pornography and the like. However, I doubt that the admini-
stration will take any action against Brett. Any response usually amounts to
"knock it off guys, solve your own problems". However, that is not to say that
I think notifying the administration is useless. I think all who are unapprecia-
tive of Brett's immaturity ought to e-mail Freenet administration with their 
concerns.
	Brett reflects badly on Cleveland Freenet which is one of the largest
free public access boards. And, badly against the standards of CWRU. But, you'll
always have jerks. *sigh*


( note: to send mail to administration, you can use either xx998@Po.CWRU.edu 
	or xx998@cleveland.freenet.edu ) 
-- 

	What God wants Gods gets... God help us all


Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: carl@crazyman.med.ge.com (Carl Crawford)
Subject: mail order stereo
Reply-To: carl@crazyman.med.ge.com (Carl Crawford)
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:58:19 GMT

could someone please send me the telephone numbers of
mail order (discount) places for auto stereo equipment?
thanks.
--
Carl R. Crawford	   Voice: 414-521-6572
GE Medical Systems	   Fax: 414-521-6575
P.O. Box 414, W-875	   Internet: crawfordc@med.ge.com
Milwaukee, WI 53201
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Adding variable resistors to speaker level signal path?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 01:44:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jsc52962@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey S. Curtis) says:

>In article <1992Sep29.161345.12108%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu> mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.) writes:
>}I figured the line level converter was acting as a zero-resistance
>}load, resulting in the entire signal from the cheapo eq/amp going
>}to the rears.
>
>This would not be the problem.  If the line level converter is indeed
>acting as a (near-)zero-resistance load, then the "cheapo eq/amp"
>would "see" the next load in that line as the total line load (since
>they're in series) which is the "good amp".  So the load that your
>cheapo eq/amp is seeing is:

	I thought that all line level converters were basically a unit
with very high impedance, so it'll only a slight amount of voltage, and
virtually no current to the amp. If that is the case, then one'll have
to ask, are the LLC and front speakers in parrallel or series? The two
should be in parrallel. If they were in series ( and I've seen it done ),
it'll explain his problem.

	Or, the existing radio speaker leads may all have a common ground,
this could be causing the trouble. 
-- 
	Mr. Bush has the dubious distinction of the second largest tax
raise in US history; right behind Mr. Reagan. They're the real slickersters,
with their theivery fingers in our wallets, with a grin and a gleem in their 
eyes.   What a "no new taxes" bastard.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: tjd28@cas.org ()
Subject: Wiring front speakers...
Organization: Hapless Hackers Corp.  Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:38:51 GMT


I was told by a net wizard to wire the front tweeters, door speakers and
rear 6x9's as one speaker and run them to the amp, but I lost his email
address before I could ask him how to do this.  They will run off a Punch
45 and are all 4 ohm, and all Kicker seperates.  So, how should I wire them?
And does anyone have an idea on how many watts/channel they will recieve per
speaker?


Thanks alot,

Trav
tjd28@cas.org
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 15:30:46 -0400 
From: Josh S Linder <jl6p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ALPINE SUCKS!! (still)
	<tom.718345028@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu>

True, I don't know a great deal about car stereos.  I know what works. 
What works for the price.  What sounds decent in a car.  In order to be
"fluent in car stereos," shall I go out and buy every one, learn the
difference between a 6x9 two-way and 9x9 three-way, and then report back
to you.  I'm not trying to start any argument here, but my past
experience dictates that Alpines are overpriced for only a name,
Blaupunkt radios tend to be moronic (the buttons on my Seattle were the
size of an eraser on a pencil and the auto reverse button would (at
will) eject the tape (it wouldn't do side 1 -=> side 2 -=> eject, it
would do side 1 -=> eject or side 2 -=> side 1 -=> side 2 eject (you get
the idea).   Pioneers are perfect for what I need; if I need a CD
changer, the radio has the logic; if I need more power, it has the
capability to have the amp put in, and so forth.
From: sdexter@scotty.ucr.edu (scott dexter)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: SUB UNDER SEAT/KENWOOD AM
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:38:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: galaxy.22697
Organization: University of California, Riverside

In article <2557.110.uupcb@cccbbs.UUCP> rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) writes:
>marc,
>     My name is Bill an installer.  I have never heard of a box for
>under the seat. Although many people have asked this question.  Subs
>will work any were in the car with the proper enclosure. In other words
>don't waste your time with this idea.
>     I am also a Kenwood supplier and if you need this cable call me.
>I know I can get it for less.   513-651-9695
>                                                  Bill
>                                                                                         

-- doesn't MTX make some boxes that have 4" woofers and a passive radiator that are DESIGNED for under-seat applications??  - Saw it in Fall/Winter (91/92) Crutchfield catalog.

-- also, no idea is not worthy of some thought and time ....

2 cents

Scott
-------------------------
sdexter@ucrengr.ucr.edu

FIGHT THE RISING COST OF PUBLIC EDUCATION
-- WIN THE LOTTERY
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: CDs for car stereo
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:02:05 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

wwein@scott.skidmore.edu (warren wein) writes:


>	Car Stereo Reveiw once had a listing of the best cds to listen
>to to test the range of your car stereo.   I was wondering if anyone
>had any personal favorites of their own.
>							- Warren

 Do you remember the CDs on the list? Do you have the list?
If so, could you post it, or any part of it you may have?
thanks.
From: gt0869a@prism.gatech.EDU (WATERS,CLYDE GORDON)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: ALPINE SUCKS!! (still)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:10:19 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct5.131303.18256@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mxl@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (marc.a.levy) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.213810.2910@wkuvx1.bitnet> laflisc@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>
>I was trying to help the net in NOT being royaly screwed by
>alpine, as I was.. Trying to get the point across that alpine
>is NOT the quality is used to be.

Yeah, maybe, but most everyone else if falling off faster, in my 
installation experience if this is so! Alpines stil statistically break 
A LOT LESS OFTEN than Sony, Kenwood, Yamaha, etc! I have worked in retail
car audio for 8 years, and have a line on just about any brand on the market 
I wish to get hold of, and Alpine is STILL my choice. Reason? Simple. They
just make units that are easier to use, better sounding , and last longer on
average than any other brand. While Alpine has probably built some lemon units 
(no company is EVER free from defects!) their defective rate is still just
about the lowest in the industry!!!


>>BTW I have had a 7380 for 5 years with no problems.  Except the time a
>>drunken friend stuck a melted tape in it.  Of course the local dealer
>>just sent it to Alpine and they told me to fuck off.  NOT 
>>They fixed it and sent it back, all for free.......go figure.
>>
>
>5 years ago, they made a decent unit.
>Having worked in retail for many years, I can figure....  The
>dealer was nice, and pulled some strings with alpine.

NOT. I have tried before. You don't have to. They have fixed anything I have
sent back under warranty for free (even some stuff that really shouldn't have
been warranty repair, like beer in the unit, dropped, out of warranty period
slightly, etc- no problen. However, what a dealer says is going to have little
effect on them. 

Alpine even has gone to the point of helping me solve problems with OTHER
PEOPLE'S UNITS ie non-Alpine units! I had a problem with an FM modulator 
changer of another brand, and they told me of a basic incompatability of
the type of factory radio I was attempting to input to to any FM changer. 
They said to not even use _their_ FM changer on the car! Solved my problem 
immediately! This was about 6 months ago... IMHO, Alpine is one of the most
solid companies in audio of any type. They are the only one that goes to 
any extent to research new car installation options, and they have product
to accomodate just about any audio installation, and it just plain works better
and longer than average.


NOT intended to be an Alpine advertisement- I get nothing from any sales in the
company I work for- I am in install, hourly wage, only.

REgards,
Gordon. 
-- 
WATERS,CLYDE GORDON-Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta Ga 30332 
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From: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: DYNAMAT---NO@
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:21:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 

        Anyone know of a good substitue to dynamat.  There has got to
be other products out there that are just as good or better and that
may be more reasonable in cost.  I will use Dynamat if quality is at
risk though.  The problem is Dynamat had got the market covered and can
set the price.  Help!!!
                Thanxs  Rob Runkle
From: cvafyaak@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Are Pioneer Speakers THAT Bad?
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:58:27 GMT
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cfamelin

wow this guy hates rockford and orion.....BUT
> Having replaced my 2 12" Rockford Pros with 4 12" Pioneer 301C subs, I have
> come to this conclusion:
> 
>      1) I get better, cleaner, louder bass with the 4 pioneers than the 2
>         Rockford Pros
OBVIOUSLY IF SUBS ARE RAN IN PARRELL YOUR HALFING THE RESISTANCE,AND YOU HAVE 
TWICE THE SURFACE AREA IN WOOFERS
> 
>      2) The 2 12" regular Rockfords I had before the Pros were a piece of crap;
>         just 2 pioneers will blow them away for the fraction of the price
WELL HARD TO SAY:YOU MAY JUST NOT KNOW HOW TO BUILD A BOX(ROCKFORD DRIVERS ARE
PICKEY ABOUT THEIR ENCLOSURES  IE.THEY DONT HAVE AS MUCH LEEWAY AS OTHERS) AND
ALSO WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "will blow them away" price? or spl? or quality?

> 
>      3) I can achieve higher spl with 4 pioneers using the same amp (1000 watt
>         Autotek)
STATED IN NUMBER 1. (DAAAA  I THINK THAT IT IS RECOGNIZED BY MOST THAT WITH 
THE SAME POWER SOURCE OF THE SAME SIZE WOOFERS WITH NOT THE SAME BUT 
REASONABLY THE SAME SPECS SHOULD YIELD A HIGER SPL W/TWICE THE NUMBER OF DRIVERS
(ITS LIKE HOOKING A SECOND SET OF HOME SPEAKERS IN PARRELL WITH YOUR RECIEVER
> 
>      4) 4 12" Pioneers cost me less than 1/2 the price of 2 12" Rockford Pros
TRUE

> 
>      5) Rockford products are --> GROSSLY <-- overpriced
ACTUALLY THEY ABOUT AVERAGE

> 
>      6) I will never buy Rockfords again (at their present price levels)
YOUR PEROGATIVE

> 
> Having replaced my Orion crossovers with Pyramid crossovers I have come to this
> conclusion:
> 
>      1) 3 "experts" could not tell the difference in sound quality in my system
>         when I switched to the Pyramids (they were trying to sell me bigger
>         Orion or Rockford crossovers until I showed them I had the Pyramids on,
>         they thought I was playing with the Orion crossovers which I had bought
>         from them)
OBVIOUSLY,COILS AND CAPS ARE COILS AND CAPS,SOME OF ARE BETTER QUALITY LIKE 
AIR COILS,MYLAR CAP,ETC...IF YOU HAVE THE SAME X-OVER POINTS WITH BOTH BRANDS
YOUR GOING TO GET SIMILAR SOUND,YOUR NOT GOING TO TELL A DIFFERENCE UNLESS
ALL THE PARAMETERS AND EQUIPMENT ARE RIGHT FOR YOUR CAR(TRUE AFFICIONATOS OF
CAR AUDIO KNOW WHAT I MEAN)

> 
>      2) Pryamid crossovers cost me 1/3 the price of Orions
TRUE

> 
>      3) A coil is a coil whether it says Orion on it or Pyramid on it (ofcourse
>         when it says Orion on it the price suddnely goes up 3X)
TRUE

> 
>      4) Orion products are --> GROSSLY <-- overpriced
WELL, HARD TO SAY. PRYAMID IS AIMED FOR THE CONSUMER MARKET,WHEN ORION IS 
AIMED TO THE COMPETION MARKET...SO SURE THEY --MORE EXPENSIVE--HA HA..
I THINK YOUR SHOULD RESTATE THAT MAYBE CROSSOVERS ARE OVER PRICED.

> 
>      5) I will never buy Orions again (at their present price levels)
YOUR PEROGATIVE

> 
>
From: jsc52962@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey S. Curtis)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: 2 ohms vs. 4 ohms
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:03:49 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

If I can get a two channel amp that's stable at 2 ohms cheaper than a
four channel amp, and both produce roughly the same net power at each
speaker, is there any reason not to buy the two channel amp? Does running
speakers in parallel introduce any problems that would make me not want
to do this?

Jeff
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: st1q9@elroy.uh.edu (Devine, Della M)
Subject: [Offensive Heading skipped]
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 06:20:00 GMT

In article <1a3flgINNks5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bs753@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brett J Grimes) writes...
>
[  VERY offensive load of @#$%@#$% posted by a moronic ignoramus, skipped ]

  First, let me give all of y'all the address to complain to about this
abusive use of usenet resources... Send all complaints to :

xx998@cleveland.freenet.edu

This the address to the system operator of the offending users computer.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Lemme start out by telling you that this is no place for etiquette 
ignorant persons as yourself to be posting. I find your posting VERY OFFENSIVE
and i think you oughta be hung for it. There is no need to be posting crap
like this. It is not your priveledge to do such. It is nobody's priveledge 
to post ANYTHING like that. If you want to cuss everybody out that drives
around your neighborhood post it to a LOCAL NEWSGROUP. 

    Can you say that Moron?
L-O-C-A-L-  N-E-W-S-G-R-O-U-P ?

  If you would first take the time to learn how to use your news program
before jumping in and idiotically posting loads of @$@#$ like this, you
would know that this belongs on one of those local groups up there
in ohio, not repeated around the whole world. You know that you just
made a lot of bbs's pay for that stupid post you made? They download
this newsgroup for their users and find out that some @$$Hole posted
$*!% like this and that they had to pay longdistance charges to get it!
man, that would royally piss me off. 

And if you don't live in Ohio, then find whichever group goes to your locale
and post it ther, I don't wanna have to listen to crap like this
(notice i didn't use the S word, i don't wanna drop to your level of
conversations, which you obviously only know how to be rude, obnoxious,
and offensive)

   As i have said in the private message i sent you,  i have sent
a copy of this post to your system manager that controls the cwru computers.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
He is on a public access system and they don't control their user's posting
unless they have a need to, which this user just gave them.
Thanx for listening to me... now remember, xx998@cleveland.freenet.edu...

                                thanx
From: deants@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Thomas Dean)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: ALL YOU MOTHER FUCKERS BETTER READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 27 Sep 92 07:18:29 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1a3flgINNks5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs753@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brett J Grimes) writes:
>
>ALL YOU MOTHER FUCKERS HAVE THAT GOD DAMN RAP SHIT, GOING DOWN THE
>MOTHER FUCKING STREET AT 3:00 AM IN THE FUCKING MORNING SHIT HAS 
>GOT TO STOP. IM SICK OF YOU MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!! TURN THE FUCKING SHIT
>DOWN. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT SHIT, SOME OF US HAVE A GOD DAMN JOB AND
>HAVE TO GET UP EARLY.  SO FUCK ALL YALL!!!!!!!!!


Not all of us 'MOTHER FUCKERS' 'HAVE THAT GOD DAMN RAP SHIT'. Are you trying
to imply that people that have a system that will play music loudly 
(and clearly) all play rap music on their systems? And that all around the 
country ( and world) rap music is the only type of music that car audio
buffs play on their systems. WRONG. SO FUCK YOU!

I don't know about you, but I enjoy hearing NWA or PUBLIC ENEMY just as much
as Beethoven, Mozart, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Smiths, Rush, etc ...
YALL GET THE POINT?

I'm sure that many others have the same reaction to this moron as I did.

I'd rather hear some loud rap music being played loud and clear at 3 a.m.
than any type of music being played distorted ANYTIME!

Just my $0.02 worth.
Keep having fun,
Tom.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: brian@sioux.eel.ufl.edu (Brian Gentry)
Subject: Re: Capacitors & Inductors (where to get them)!
Reply-To: asr@reef.cis.ufl.edu
Organization: UF CIS Department
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 18:07:42 GMT

Here is a posting I got from rec.audio a while back.  It has the
names numbers and addresses of various audio related businesses.
I have personaly bought passive crossover components from Madisound
with good results.

			Brian L. Gentry
		   (brian@sioux.eel.ufl.edu)

From eng.ufl.edu!ukma!seismo!uunet!milo!bill Tue Dec 10 16:27:06 1991
Article: 38162 of rec.audio
From: sdexter@scotty.ucr.edu (scott dexter)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: ALL YOU MOTHER F-----S BETTER READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:44:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: galaxy.22698
Organization: University of California, Riverside

In article <1a3flgINNks5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs753@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brett J Grimes) writes:
>
>  --stuff deleted for obvious reason--
>
>


How about a little restraint???
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: brian@navaho.eel.ufl.edu (Brian Gentry)
Subject: Re: Round vs. Oval Speakers
Organization: UF EE Department (student)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 23:38:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.083723.8995@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>, parker@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
|>      I am seeking opinions from experienced installers regarding
|> round vs. oval speakers.
|> 
|>      I am thinking of buying raw speakers from Madisound and either
|> making my own "plate" type speakers with a 6-1/2 inch woofer and some
|> kind of dome tweeter, or else just buying a pair of Madisound/Audax
|> coaxials, e.g. 6-1/2 inch model 6102/Audax. Total cost would be in
|> the $80 to $100 range for the pair.
|> 
|>      Has anyone compared the sound of this kind of setup to widely
|> sold 6x9's in this price range, e.g. Pioneers or Kenwoods?
|> 

I have heard several systems with plate type speakers in the same place
that 6x9s go.  I think that you will get MUCH better sound than 6x9s
by using the plates you describe.  To get good sound out of a 6x9 you
have to spend between $200 and $350 for a good pair that includes
high frequency drivers mounted on top of the cone.  The Boston Acoustics
plates I used to sell sounded much better than any $100 pair of 6x9s that
I've ever heard.

I've also had really good results making my own speaker systems out
of "raw" drivers.  I've found that I can get sound out of inexpensive
components that rivals that of commercial speakers costing 3 to 4 times
as much.
			Brian L. Gentry
		    (brian@sioux.eel.ufl.edu)
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:56:53 -0400 
From: "Robert W. Igo" <ri09+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: all you guys read this the edited version

Excerpts from netnews.rec.audio.car: 28-Sep-92 all you guys read this
the .. Brett J Grimes@cleveland (775)


> My comments were not pin pointed to everyone who has a system in there
> car just the ones who have that rap shit. I myself like to hear the
> bass but also like to here mids and highs. i have a eclipse head unit 
> with a precision power eq going to a set of rockford fosgate punch 75's
> they then go to a pair of mb quart 5 1/4's and 1" inch tweeters and the 
> other amp go's to a pair of 12" jl audios in a isobaric box. and the are
> all crossed over by a coustic xm3. Im new on this sig and didn't know
> it was censored. to all that took my comments in the wrong way, if you 
> don't listen to the rap music you shouldn't have replied. it didn't say 
> to all of you guys with the radios cranked. it said to all you guys with
> the rap. If I pissed anyone of "sorry".

> have a nice day 

Well, speaking as one of the people who drive by your house at 3 AM
blasting my music, I apologize.  I didn't realize that you had to get
your sleep so you could have enough energy to study English grammar and
spelling and capitalization after you had come home for the day,
following your proofreading job.  I see from your post that I have been
preventing you from doing so, and I apologize deeply.  Shall I tell my
friends to stop bothering you, or shall I tell them that it's okay to
drive by at 3 AM as long as they don't blast RAP?  Perhaps the 1812
Overture at 140 decibels is more to your liking?  All this can be
arranged, of course.  However, you must specify your preference, as it
is still unclear exactly what you mean.

(For the sarcasm-impaired, no; I do not drive by his house, nor do I
know of anyone who does.)

[******************************** Bob Igo ********************************]
Witty and universally-true .sig file under construction.
[************************** ri09+@andrew.cmu.edu *************************]
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Bass Blockers
From: <DMW122@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:32:26 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

Hi,
     I have a very stupid question, so don't laugh at my ignorance, but last we
ekend, I went home and put bass blockers on my car's front speakers.  Just as I
 was about to I got nervous because I didn't know which side, the positive or t
he negative side to wire them in on!  Please could someone post or E-mail me a
 one word response either NEGATIVE or POSITIVE.  Thanks.
                                                    Duane Whitlock
                                                    DMW122@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car