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From: David_A._Schnider@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:48:36 PST
Subject: Re: PowerBooks - 210 v. 160 as Midrange champ

As I intend to buy a PB soon I have looked into this.  My first idea was to
sell my desktop machine and get a duo with a dock.  As it turns out, this
costs around $4000, maybe more.  My next consideration was the 160.  This
costs around $3000.  (Both of these figures include accessories such as extra
battery, cahrger, case, and RAM).  The 160 also comes with a built in drive
and a better monitor and trackball.  The advantage of the dock is that it is
expandable.  That is the real division.  If you are going to want to buy an
040 processor for your PB you want to spend the $1000 more on the DUO. 
Otherwise the 160 is a much better choice.

-David
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From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:27:25 EST
Subject: Re: Please help with FRAUD case!  Beware!

If you feel you have been screwed take him to court.  Call the FCC too to find
out if there are any laws that govern private sales on the NET.  Just a
thought.
Joe C.
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From: dws@menlo.cadre.com (David W. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple 14" monitor - looks like 13" area
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:54:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: menlo.1992Nov9.165412.9810
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc., Menlo Park Operation

In article <BxD3Br.Dn8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Shan Duncan asks:

> so why would one buy the new 14" over the old 13" ?  And does it
>   really have an extra inch?

Several reasons:

  -  Apple is phasing out the Hi Res RGB (aka 13") in favor of the Apple
     Color Monitor (aka 14").  That is, you might not have much of a choice
     after a while.

  -  The 14" really is shorter.  The monitor cable is built-in, and is
     recessed a bit.  This makes it about 3 inches shallower (effectively)
     than the 13", and *much* more desktop friendly.  It's also a bit
     lighter.

  -  The swivel stand is built-in.  You needn't spend the extra $50 or so
     for the Apple stand, or jury rig something out of old DOS manuals.

  -  It's less expensive (though there are some good deals to be had as
     dealers flush their stocks of 13" monitors).

-- 
Dave Smith, Cadre Technologies Inc. - Database Tools Division
4500 Bohannon Drive, Suite 150, Menlo Park, CA  94025
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: High Density Floppy on a Mac II
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:06:18 GMT

As an option to the Apple supplied HD drive upgrade kit you can try
Applied Enginering's Plus drive. 800KB and HD 3.5" drive that will 
work with Plus, SE, Mac II. Claims DOS format disk capability also but
you might need to use Apple File Exchange, AccessPC 2.0 or Apples PCExchange
to use DOS world disks.

Dale
parkyn@sfu.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: noah@apple.com (Noah Price)
Subject: Re: Sound chip in IIvx is a drawback to machine
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:58:13 GMT
Organization: (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

In article <1992Nov10.020759.20751@cc.umontreal.ca>,
tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos) wrote:
> ... It is stated in the Apple Facts
> 10.92 booklet that the IIci and si have mono sound.  Has Apple indeed
> replaced the sound generation software in these machines with mono chips.

No such change has been made to either product.

noah

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noah@apple.com                                 Macintosh Hardware Design
...!{sun,decwrl}!apple!noah   (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
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From: wrupp@crash.cts.com (William Rupp)
Subject: Upgrading my SE
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:24:10 PST
Keywords: SE, upgrade

I own a Mac SE (not SE/30) and am considering upgrading with a Magic Railgun 030
card, plus 19" b/w monitor.  If anyone has any information about that
product, I would appreciate hearing it.  I would like to buy a new Mac, such
as an IIsi or IIci, but I don't think I have the bucks.

Thanks,

Bill Rupp
Oceanside, CA
From: isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: * Looking for Audio Input board
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:42:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

Digidesign makes two "audio input boards" one is the
Audiomedia II, which gives you studio-quality audio i/o & DSP.
The other is the Sound Accelerator, which gives you
laboratory-quality results.
both have 56001 DSP's on board are are sorta expensive...

If you're just looking for toys, then the Macrecorder hrdware
will i beleive sample upt o 22khz, and i think coems wityh line
input and a microphone..
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook accelerators??
Keywords: pb 100, powerbook, accelerator
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:31:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov11.233134.24140
Reply-To: rseymour@reed.edu
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1dro54INNjq6@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> okabe@unixg.ubc.ca (Ian Okabe)  
writes:
> Has anyone ever thought of doing some kind of accelerator for a Powerbook
> 100. Since the main cpu is on a daughterboard, wouldn't it be fairly
> easy. Just curious.
> -- 
> Ian T. Okabe (okabe@unixg.ubc.ca)
> Atmospheric Sciences, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada

	I couldn't imagine there is enough demand to warrant the large amount  
of effort and testing it would take to create a new daughter board (there would  
also probably have to be ROM changes). Not that many 100s were sold, and most  
of the people who bought them wanted a portable for just word processing, so  
accelerators would be unwarranted.

--
Robert Seymour				rseymour@reed.edu
Departments of Physics and Philosophy
Artificial Life Project			Reed College
Reed Solar Energy Project (SolTrain)	Portland, OR
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From: asarti@bellini.berkeley.edu (Augusto Sarti)
Subject: 1-800 Phone No. of Dove Computer Corporation
Summary: the old number is no longer in service...
Keywords: accelerator
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:30:09 GMT

I'm having trouble installing a Dove 020 accelerator, and I cannot reach
their assistance service as the 1-800 has been disconnected. Does anybody
know the current one?
Please respond by email, if possible.
Thank you for your time

Augusto
From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Availability
Date: 7 Nov 92 06:47:19 GMT
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS

I have been hearing rumours that Apple is having trouble getting large
quantities of the new CD300.  I ordered a ][vx 5/80 w/CD from my "Apple
authorized campus reseller" about 2 weeks ago.  I don't expect to see it for
another 2 weeks at the earliest.  I was just wonderin' if what I hear is true
about the CD300's will it effect the availability of the ][vx w/cd, I imagine
it would.  I know the education program is not a top priority for Apple and I
can understand why, I was just curious if anyoune had heard specific shipping
dates for the ][vx w/cd specifically for the education program.  Thanx, Joe C
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From: wfp@jupiter.claremont.edu (Frank Price)
Subject: Television in a window?
Reply-To: wprice@pomona.claremont.edu
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:43:30 GMT

A few years ago, I bought a device called "MicroTV".  It was a great idea  
which put a TV with channels and sound dials in a little window.  I loved it  
even though the resolution wasn't so great and the hardware was pretty shoddy.   
Anyway, the software hasn't worked in ages, and it had various problems.  Is  
there a suitable substitute these days which works well, and maybe even works  
with QuickTime?

-- Frank
__________________________________________________________________________
Frank Price               | wprice@pomona.claremont.edu
                          | "Nothing crashes like a Macintosh."
NeXTMail appreciated      |      - Guy Kawasaki
From: yjc@po.cwru.edu (Jerome Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Tape BackUps
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 7 Nov 1992 14:21:36 GMT
Organization: The Tofu Society of Singapore
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61539.student.cwru.edu

I'm looking for cheap tape backup hardware/software for an 80 meg HD. Can
anyone recommend something? It's does not have to be fast.

---
The Evil Tofu
From: arth@sudshead.EBay.Sun.COM ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Memory upgrade for MacII
Date: 12 Nov 1992 23:22:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: arth@sudshead.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sudshead.ebay.sun.com


Hello -- My sister needs to upgrade her Mac II. Since I don't know what kind 
	 of memory is already in there, she just called me and she knows that
	 they are 256kb but she doesn't know if they are simms or chips. I need
	 to know what they are, if simms can I use some out of a sun 4/110 or
	 what?

	 
Thanks

art hebert

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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: 16" monitors
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:28:37 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

Posted for the Mark Thomas-- the quoted text is mine:


        Do they have a utility to drive the 5FG at the 21" resolution
and the
16" resolution?  What is the dpi of the 5FG run at the 21" resolution?
It should be better (i.e. larger) than other 16" monitors run at 21"
because of the edge-to-edge image, right?
---------
 
Yes, the utility does all the Quadra resolutions. By the way, they
probably won't tell you this, but the extension does not require their
monitor. It works on Sony, E-machines, Viewsonic, etc.
 
The 5FG does have an edge-to-edge image, but it's edges are closer
together than most other 16/17 inch monitors. There is actually
more useable viewing area on, say, the Sony 1604 than the 5FG.
I don't yet have an E-machines (should come in Real Soon Now), but
I bet the useable viewing area won't be much different.
 
I'm emailing this to you because I currently can't post. Maybe
you can post this for me, in case others have the same question?
 
Mark Thomas
sonatech%thomas@hub.ucsb.edu
 
 

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From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 00:36:56 EST
Subject: Re: 68050

Eric Smith writes .....
The reason that Apple has an alliance with IBM now has to do with corporate
alliances and shrinking market share for both companies, not with IBM's
technical expertise.
------------------
Why would two companys that were competing with each other get together with
each other so they could decrease the others market share.  That sounds like a
dog chasin' it's tail to me...... then again I don't know anything about
bussiness.  Lets face it .... IBM is good at makin' RISC ships,  Motorola is
good at developing technology to mass produce complex microprocessors, and
Apple is good at designing software and users intfaces that are easy to use
and productive.  Instead of being imature like the rest of the world these
three companies know that "Hey my competetition is better at doing that than I
am... I wonder how they do it???  Imagine what we could do if we worked
TOGETHER and SHARED our knowledge with one another".  
Joe C.Maybe if the rest of the world figured this out
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From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: RAM in Plus, SE, IIsi
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:11:58 GMT

In <1992Nov10.064919.13376@netcom.com> truher@netcom.com (Joel Burke Truher) writes:


>Sorry for the FAQ, but what is the trick to get a Plus and SE
>to recognize 4 MB?  What SIMM is used in the IIsi?  It doesn't
>recognize my 2MB SIMMs.  Thanks.

>Joel

In the Mac Plus, you must remove two resistors (if both are present). One is
labelled 256 KBIT and the other is labelled ONE ROW. If you're viewing the
board from above with the ports to the rear, the resistors are on the left
edge of the board about 2/3 towards the back.

Upgrading the SE depends on how old it is. The original used two resistors,
labelled "256 KBIT" and "ONE ROW" as in the Plus. The newer variety requires
the removal of a jumper. Move the jumper from shorting the pins labelled 1M
to shorting the pins labelled 2/4M.

Both these upgrades shrink the video display slightly, which can be adjusted.
The IIsi should recognize 2MB SIMMs. A friend of mine recently upgraded to 9MB.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: yoda@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Terry Lee)
Subject: Re: 3rd Party DuoDocks?
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 03:18:53 GMT

In article <1dnu5rINN5t@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division) writes:
>smytonj@pell4l24 (James Smyton) writes:
>
>>I would laugh if Apple would not be smart enough to patent their docking  
>>technology and let third parties develop docks!
>
>Mention not the word patent.
>
>(Craig ducks to avoid the ensuing flame war)

BRAVO!
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From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 00:12:04 EST
Subject: Re: Clock doubling

Replying to Eric Re:parallel processing
    I understand the basics of it but I'm wouldn't be very good at explaining
it in detail (which of course means I know what I'm talking about and I don't
know what I'm talking about). Maybe my father will be able to answer some
questions when he gets on the Internet.  I talked to him yesterday ... he said
he would have access soon but he can't get on right now .... at least he'd be
able to explain it in detail.  Joe C
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From: todd@crayola (Todd Katz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PB100 HD upgrade
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:39:55 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

I'm going to be upgrading the 20 meg. HD on my Powerbook 100 and I'd  
appreciate a sanity check.

* I'm thinking of getting the $395 LaCie 80 meg. HD. Has anyone had any  
problems w/this drive?

* I'm under the impression that I have to find a dealer to put in the  
drive or I've blown my warranty. Is that also correct?

Thanks very much, in advance,

-- tk
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From: wrast@nyx.cs.du.edu (Winston MacKenzie Rast)
Subject: Theory on IIsi upgrade failure
Keywords: IIsi, 25mhz, upgrade
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 06:07:08 GMT

I've heard a few people mention their failures in upgrading their IIsi to
25Mhz. Now, I haven't done this upgrade myself, but I have been following the
discussion ever since the thread began. I have an opinion on why some IIsi's
might be failing. Here goes:

Alright, it's pretty well understood that the IIsi motherboard is quite similar
to that of the IIci. If this is true, it helps to know what the differences    
are. So what is different? Well, the first thing that popped into my mind was
that the SIMMs in the IIci are 80ns chips while the SIMMs in the IIsi are 100ns.
So, to me it would seem that if your IIsi did NOT have 80ns or faster simms
installed in it, the upgrade would not work. 

This seems to follow along with the 25% increase in speed the upgrades allows.
80ns = 25% faster than 100ns so again, it seems to me that 80ns would be 
required. So the question to ask those who failed seems to be, "Am I using the
original simms that came with my Mac?" If so, you probably bought the 5/80
configuration. I would think that 100ns simms would have been installed by
Apple (stupid as that is). For those who bought the older 2/40 or the newer
3/40 configs, if you upgraded to 5 megs or more, the question would be to ask,
"Were the simms I bought 80ns or faster?". If you don't know, it seems that it
would be a simple matter of calling whoever you bought them from.

Does all this seem plausible to anyone/everyone? I have a 5/140 config with
80ns simms so am seriously considering the upgrade. I'm very interested in
hearing what others have to say about this.

Oh, please post replies. <sarcastically> I'm *pretty* sure many others are
interested in this also! ;-)

--Winston Rast
wrast@nyx.cs.du.edu

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From: hwa@fassm.jhuapl.edu (Hani W. Akhras)
Subject: II vx Vs Ci
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Johns Hopkins University 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:16:38 GMT

I am currently debating on whether to buy a ci or vx. It seems to me from
all that I've read that they are basically the same with some small
differences. Can someone summarize these differences and recommend which
one I should go for. Currently, I fell that the ci is a better buy. Any
help would be appreciated.

____________________
hani w akhras
hwa@fassm.jhuapl.edu
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From: dougs@david.wheaton.edu (Doug Smith - SGA)
Subject: Re: Theory on IIsi upgrade failure
Keywords: IIsi, 25mhz, upgrade
Organization: Wheaton College
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:32:26 GMT

I just checked the RAM soldered to my motherboard and they are 80ns chips.
My IIsi is not one of the older ones.
From: stx0436@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Video Port for Portable?
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:43:08 EST
Summary: Is there a video port for the portable
Reply-To: Stx0436@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: CSE Student

Is there a video port for the Mac Portable?
I have a mac portable (predecessor to the powerbook) and I was wondering if any
third party manufactuers an external video port upgrade. 
The portable does what I need, but I really would like to be able to connect it
to my radius.  If I can't find one, I probably will go out and look at buying a
PB, but if I don't have to I won't

Send Mail to:Stx0436@UofT02.utoledo.edu
or post a reply.
Thanks
Paul Gotts
From: josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PowerBooks - 210 v. 160 as Midrange champ
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:42:49 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Nov10.010343.99694@bmug.org> David_A._Schnider@bmug.org writes:
>I think the couple of punds saved on the 210 are negligible.  The battery stuff
>is a definite benefit.  I think the attachable drive is an annoyance.  Think
>that if you want the dock for its expandability, you either have to buy a second
>drive to carry around or just never have a drive on the go.  While the duo is
>a better sdystem, it taakes a lot more money to get it.  For the same kinds of
>abilities you need ot spend about $1500 more than a 160.  It's not worth it
>for me (especially since I don't have the extra $1500).
>
>-David

It all depends on your need:  do you need the 160's floppy drive and ports or
not?  From where I sit, those only add extra weight.  Correct me if I'm
wrong, but a 210 can talk to printers and AppleTalk through its built-in
serial port.  Wherever I go, this is enough: once a 210 is plugged into
a local network, all services and peripherals I might need are available.
This includes printing and file sharing, the ones I might sometimes need.

Unless I'm wrong, this is quite satisfactory for many users.  Apple should
be promoting the 210 as a machine which simply plugs into a network (but
this would detract from sales of docking stations and other goodies).  It took
me a while to realize that (1) I rarely need the floppy drive, (2) I never
need to hook up to anything other than a printer or modem and (3) the 210
has everything I need: AppleTalk (including file sharing) and optional 
built-in modem.  Sure, the 160 has certain extras built-in, which other people
really need, but I'd rather have a leaner notebook, so I vote for the 210.

-Josip
From: IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jon Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: II vx Vs Ci
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:54:23 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <hwa-061192121416@jones.jhuapl.edu>, hwa@fassm.jhuapl.edu (Hani W.
Akhras) says:
>
>I am currently debating on whether to buy a ci or vx. It seems to me from
>all that I've read that they are basically the same with some small
>differences. Can someone summarize these differences and recommend which
>one I should go for. Currently, I fell that the ci is a better buy. Any
>help would be appreciated.


Check out the December issue of MacWorld magazine for a good comparisson
of these two machines.



    -----> Jon                                   Jon Carr
    -----> IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU               36 Forest Ave
                                                 Orono, ME 04473
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From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Subject: Re: New 14" vs. Performa Display+ ???
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:56:17 GMT

In <1992Nov05.135159.92060@bmug.org> David_A._Schnider@bmug.org writes:

>Honestly, this is a foolish comparison for one reason.  There is a better,
>cheaper monitor.  The Sony CPD-1320 has a better dot pitch and sells for $425
>(out the door after S&H).  There's no reason to spend $100 more on the Apple
>14" which is the same thing.

>-David
>******************************************************************

I can't seem to raise this guy by E-mail. Does anyone know where this monitor
might be found at this price ? 


Is there a problem with connecting this monitor to cables designed for the 
Apple Monitors ?


Thanks much,

Jim
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From: bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Tyson Bower)
Subject: Re: Max Memory for a Mac II
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:53:19 GMT

It was my belief that the IIx ROMs were NOT necessary to use the 4mb SIMMs
on a Mac II, however, you must install them in bank B.  This would place
the unmodified Mac IIs memory barrier at 20 mb (4 mb in bank A using
1 mb SIMMs + 16 mb in bank B using 4 mb SIMMs).

I read this in two different Memory related articles.  One was a Hypercard
document released by Connectix.

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