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From: chyang@exemplum.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Arizona beats UCLA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 15:50:06 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@exemplum.engin.umich.edu


In article <81494@ut-emx.uucp>, reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali) writes:
> In article <1anmm8INNgmk@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
> >
> >The only teams which really threaten the Huskies chances are Stanford
> >and Cal, and Washington plays both of those teams at home.
> >
> >William F. Tell
> >UC Berkeley
> 
> I don't think the Huskies can overlook two very big games:
> 
> Arizona			3-2-1	(remember the Miami, UCLA games?)
> Washington State	5-0	(Surprise team of the PAC-10)
> 
> These are both away games.
> Interesting... there is a chance that the Apple Cup this year could
> feature the 10-0 Cougars vs. the 10-0 Huskies.  As long as I'm talking
> about WSU, why aren't they in the top 25 despite being one of only 6
> unbeaten, untied division 1 teams?
> 
> 

	You are correct.  I don't think Don James will over look 
these games.  Washington looks as if they are finally out of the 
offensive slump.  I think they will do well the rest of the season.

	As far as WSU goes, they haven't played UCLA, CAL, Stanford, and
Washington yet.  They are very capable of losing all four of those games.

- Chung Yang
-- 
> Ali R. Vali - reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami #1
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:18:52 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

chyang@anaphora.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) wrote:
}
}	Wisconsin, as it turned out was a replacement opponent.  The 
}team that was supposed to play Washington this year was....
}SURPRISE!  MIAMI of FLORIDA.  Looks like the 'Canes weenied out on this
}one.  

This is too much.  Last year in the middle of the season when the debate
over #1 was on, the U-dub woofers claimed that Florida State had been
scheduled to play them and had chickened out.  (Which was of course
revealed to be totally false.)

Now this season the debate is between Miami and Washington, and - 
suddenly - Miami cancelled a game *this* season against U-dub?  Forgive
me if I'm just a wee bit skeptical.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
       "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
         swords is no basis for a system of government!"
From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Freshman QB's....
Keywords: any impact players...
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:52:53 GMT
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <Bvr938.D8y@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Hazard Class Mage) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!caen!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!landers
|> From: landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Hazard Class Mage)
|> Subject: Re: Freshman QB's....
|> Message-ID: <Bvr938.D8y@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
|> Keywords: any impact players...
|> Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
|> References: <ld3741INN18e@cronkite>
|> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:18:43 GMT
|> Lines: 18
|> 
|> In article <ld3741INN18e@cronkite> andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM writes:
|> >WHen was the last TRUE frosh to play QB at a major college & play well ?
|> >Colorado's Koy Detmer may qualify,  but not yet.  Zeier, QB from GA, 
|> >doesn't count,  he started school in the spring before his freshman year
|> >& played in spring practice.  That is like a redshirt. 
|> >
|> >Andy Knipp                    |
|> 
|> Well, it certainly wasn't Jeff George, who played like aragant shit
|> his freshman year at Purdue, we were glad to see him go.  Come
|> to think of it, he's still playing like aragant shit at Indy....

   We didn't ask if he was "arrogant".  We asked if he was good.  One thing
   I do know.  Until the 4th quarter of last years Illinois at Purdue game,
   the last touchdown Purdue had scored against the Illini was scored on a pass
   thrown by the Illini's star QB, Jeff George.  Not an interception, a
   completion.  But this year, Purdue OR Illinois
   could BOTH use George.  Apparently, Verduzco won't even start this week.
   Oh Brother....

Murph


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From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: I'm so proud of my Cheeseheads...
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:14:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: desire.1992Oct16.171429.4904
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Oct15.114236.9404@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
> My Cheeseheads have learned well.  Instead of boasting about a sure win
> over Purdue this weekend, they are keeping very quiet.  Some people might
> say it's because they are embarassed over last week, but I don't think so.
> I think they are not saying anything because they don't want to draw the
> ire of the woofing gods, and perhaps because they don't want to upset their
> mentor, the head of the Cheesehead Academy, who happens to be a Purdue
> alum.
> 
> I'm so proud of you guys....

	Me too, you covered the spread against Iowa!

Brett                                                      
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From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: longhorn football
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:24:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.203643.5172@digi.lonestar.org> mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org (Mike) writes:
>> Ali R. Vali - reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu
>> Gardere is gone after this season, and the new QB was the most highly
>> recruited QB in Texas (maybe the nation).  We'll see...
>
>this is correct, jim.  ut has had the top recruited qb in the nation the last
>two recruiting years, steve clements (sp?) and shea morenz.  i think i have my
>years straight.  i may have been two out of the last three recruiting years.
>in any case, look where clements is now (BYU).  morenz has played in a couple
>of games and has not looked all that well but this is a learning season for him.
>i still wish johnny mac would have redshirted him.  i can still hope for an
>injury redshirt.  you know he gets hurt in practice and they get to redshirt
>him ;-)  of course, there is no guarantee that he will stay for 4 years let
>alone 5.  he is suppose to be a pretty damn good outfielder.
>so, i guess...start his career now.

It will be interesting to compare Morenz to Colorado's Koy Detmer when
their teams meet head on in '93 (in Boulder) and '94 (in Austin), since
Shea was rated above Koy but Koy has gotten the early opportunity and
has taken advantage of it.  They'll both presumably be the starters by
then, although Kordell Stewart will have something to say about that :-)

Also, I expect Nebraska's freshman QB prospect Tommie Frazier, and
perhaps Oklahoma's Chad Davis (both rated in the top 10 of this year's
QB recruits) to start for 3 or 4 years, so I anticipate some great duels
between them and Detmer.
-- 
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Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
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From: tshannon@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy J Shannon)
Subject: Re: I-AA Attendence (Re: was UNI vs. Iowa in '94?
Organization: CAD-Research, U. of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:37:12 GMT

From article <1992Oct9.085203@mccall.com>, by scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis):
>>>The Dome seats 16,000 for football, and around 22,500 for basketball (but th
>>
> Well, The UNI-Dome was oversold by 2,000 for the last game(according
> to my relatives in CF).  So look for tickets to be tougher to get
> (which is nice to see).  [for Jim Bohy: The Hill has been called
> a riot place the last two weeks, but from what I heard it was just
> a bunch of people blocking the streets after the game.]

	The crowd at the last UNI, which was also UNI's homecoming was the
fourth largest ever to see a football game at the dome.  The exact attendance
was 15,086.  I would be willing to bet that they keep high attendance until
next season.
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From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Subject: Re: Common Opponents, Transitivity, and Stupidity
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 23:11:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.232926.18678@hubcap.clemson.edu> trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>Transitivity can be stretched to absurd conclusions.  A couple of years
>ago, transitivity produced the following beauty:
>
>Colorado (voted by some group of dolts National Champions) lost to Illinois
>Illinois lost to Clemson (30-0 in the Citrus Bowl)
>Clemson lost to Virginia
>Virginia lost to Virginia Tech
>Virginia Tech lost to South Carolina
>South Carolina lost to the Citadel
>The Citadel lost to Wofford
>and Wofford lost to Mississippi College
>
>I think that's right, but I might have missed something.  Anyhow, it happened
>that Mississippi College was the "best" team in the land by transitivity.
>Heck...they might have been...

Ah, but was this the year that MC won the Division II title? 
They were pretty good a few years ago (for a tiny little Baptist school)

Go Choctaws....   :-)
From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pac Ten Woofing and Poofing (Re: AP Top 25)
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:27:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsj.1992Oct13.182738.4411
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct13.175345.11767@u.washington.edu> crs@stein.waterhead.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
> 

Regarding some left coast teams, Cliff writes:

> Not to mention a crowd of woofers from each school who occaisionally like
> to ignore the facts when it inconvieninces them--oh wait I'm sorry, that
> applies to just about every d*mn school discussed on the net, doesn't it?
> ('cept Rutgers, of course.  Dear ol' Bob would never fib...:-)  ).
                                                             ^^^
Absolutely.  But, what are these things? --------------------|||

> 
> ****************************************************************************
> Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
> Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
> University of Washington      *   water again!
> Seattle, WA 98195             *
> ****************************************************************************


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From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: tu at Austin football
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:50:33 GMT

In article <81635@ut-emx.uucp> reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali) writes:
>Jammer Jams:
>>                                                               It is also true
>>that [they - UT] have sucked rocks for all but 1 year since 1986.  If you 
>>desire to live in the '70's, by all means go right ahead...:-)
>
>I don't know the definition of "sucking rocks" but I don't think a 10-2 season
>in 1990 meets the rock sucking criteria.  Yes, I know... they got waxed by
>Miami 46-3 in the Cotton Bowl, but they did have a hell of a season.

And perhaps you don't know the definition/meaning of 'all but 1 year' either?

- goober (damn, i'm a smart ass) smith
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From: mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM (Mike Minihan)
Subject: Re: OU vs. tx
Organization: ARCO Oil and Gas Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:36:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.215708.2019@digi.lonestar.org>,
mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org (Mike) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.153707.14358@Arco.COM> mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM
> (Mike Minihan) writes:
> >In article <1992Oct6.124611.23629@dvorak.amd.com>,
> chrisk@nucleus.amd.com
> >(Chris Kosh) VOMITS:
> >
> >> Would someone in this newsgroup please pass the word to the
> >> peons in oklahoma that its time once again.  Let them know to
> >> go ahead and begin talking because they simply cannot beat a 
> >> team from a superior state, regardless of talent, tradition,
> >> ranking, or record.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> See ya in Dallas, if you can find your way and the telegraphs
> >> get the message that far.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 		For the fourth year in a row, 
> >
> >
> >Let's see if texas wins it on the field as well as the mouth.
> >You sips put out more vomit than any body I've ever seen.	
> 
> 
> We "sips" put out more vomit than anybody else because we "sips" have a
> winning
> record against every SWC team (granted not saying much) and against the
> university of chokelahoma loosers, i mean sooners, no i don't LOOSERS.

This is the first time in seven years you did win it on the field...go
ahead and talk, or vomit your garbage. You have reason to. If the Sooners
would have won, nothing said, we are looking ahead at Colorado. 

PS - Have you looked at the poles this morning? Nuff said.

> 
> so to all the FAGGIES out there, when your team has a winning record
> against us "sips", then we'll talk
> 
> mike
> 


-- 

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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 02:50:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Oct12.185037.18585@u.washington.edu> apalon@stein.u.washington.edu (Andrew Alleman) writes:
>In article <TOMA.92Oct12142345@db.TC.Cornell.EDU> toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma) writes:
>>Miami and Wash play a common opponent, Arizona. If Arizona goes up to
>>Washington, and doesn't do as well as they did against Miami, then you
>>have your answer. Wash #1. If they do better than they did against Miami,
>>then Miami #1. 
>
>I agree with you on this.  This will be the most reliable data point to
>apply when comparing Miami and Washington.  Transitive properties simply
>don't work in College football.  BTW - Washington plays AT arizona.
>
>-- Andy

Did you agree then, that it should have worked last year when Miami and
Washington both played Nebraska????

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From: paasch@engr.cs.orst.edu (Bob Paasch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:59:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Oct08.185938.5938
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis Oregon

In article <1b1u31INNema@agate.berkeley.edu> chrisp@porsche.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris Puscasiu) writes:
>
>I for one have tossed out all my cloth that have more than 50% red color 
>on them ...
>
>Besides sports though this rivalry has even some more implications, namely
>great academic competion on things like who has more nobel laureates etc.

No matter who the Bears are playing in Memorial Stadium, if someone walks
into the student section with any red in their clothing, the students will
stand and chant: "take off that red shirt (or whatever)"  If they don't 
comply (or don't move quickly out of the student section) they get
rolled up.  

At the 89 USC game a couple USC fans had bright red shirts and walked through
the student section.  The crowd chanted "take off that red shirt".  The USC
guys shouted "f*ck you".  Wrong move.  Their shirts got ripped off and they 
got rolled up.
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From: "Sid Kitchel" <kitchel@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Big Ten Review (10-10-92)
Keywords: Big Ten
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:41:52 -0500

ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:

>In article <Bw2oDz.4AG@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>>Results of October 10:
>[much text tossed away]
>>	Elvis Grbac 177-111.  A Michigan Stadium record crowd of 106,788...
>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Make that "an NCAA regular-season record".  :)

	I doubt it!! There was a game at Soldier Field in the 20s or
30s (ND - Illinois?? or ND - Northwestern??) that had something like
120,000 attending. (This was before they remodelled Soldier Field
obviously. ###)
           ^^^
	     Please insert appropriate smiley.

						soONEr born!!!,
						      --Sid




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From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: rsfc I-AA top 10
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:19:56 GMT

Five responses were received for this poll.  1st place votes were worth ten,...
10th place votes were worth 1.

First place votes are in parentheses.  "Hi" and "Lo" represent the highest and 
lowest rank received for each team.

Rank      Team              Pts.      Hi        Lo

1.        Northern Iowa     50 (5)     1         1
2.        Idaho             41         2         4
3.        The Citadel       39         2         4
4.        Marshall          35         2         6
5.        Middle Tenn       24         5         8
6t.       Samford           22         4        10
6t.       Villanova         22         2        NR
8.        Youngstown St.    12 1/2     3        NR
9.        William and Mary   9         5        NR
10.       Florida A&M        8         7        NR

OTHERS (Votes): Central Florida (4), Delaware (4), Eastern Kentucky (4),
                NE Louisiana (4), Richmond (1), Eastern Washington (1/2).

Thanks to those who voted:

dbarring@dw3f.ess.harris.com
erica@amc.com
!mccall.com!scott@mccall.uucp
dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu
pdunn@magnus.ohio-state.edu

PDunn
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From: landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Hazard Class Mage)
Subject: Re: Freshman QB's....
Keywords: any impact players...
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:25:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.155253.8453@ryn.mro4.dec.com> murphy@rock.enet.dec.com () writes:
>|> 
>|> Well, it certainly wasn't Jeff George, who played like aragant shit
>|> his freshman year at Purdue, we were glad to see him go.  
>
>   We didn't ask if he was "arrogant".  We asked if he was good.  

  I think the word shit pretty well summed it up.


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From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:56:45 GMT
	<1992Oct7.183013.5733@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Oct7.183013.5733@news2.cis.umn.edu> milius@proton.med.umn.edu (Bob Milius (BMEC)) writes:
}} 
}} What are the biggest, oldest, most intense rivalrys in the country and are
}} they as intense to both teams?

I'd have to vote for UMich/tOSU based on the "intense for both teams"
qualifier.  Purdue and Indiana is another, but I also like to mix in
the quality of the teams, which puts UMich/tOSU near the top, as
they're perennial top-20 teams.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
                             Aye, I like her eyes!

             "Home is the place where, when you have to go there,
                          They have to take you in."
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From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Organization: ^$
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:39:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.172555.3281@b11.b11.ingr.com> mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.201243.8638@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> jwilson@homeboy.msfc.nasa.gov writes:
>>
>>As I stated in a previous post, the AU/UA game is the biggest game of
>>the year for both teams.  As bad as most Bama fans hate to admit it,
>>THE reason Bill Curry was run out of town was because he couldn`t beat
>>Auburn.  In a year with only 2 losses (AU and Miami), many fans were 
>                                                       ^^^^
>    There, at least, is a nuggett of truth.  Many fans were more
>than a little upset with Curry as evidenced by someone lobbing a
>brick through his window.  However, Curry went to Kentucky to
>interview for the coaching job on what should have been a quiet 2 or
>3 day trip.  Instead, he turned it into a media circus for a week. 
>All this *after* the AD and University President gave him the vote
>of confidence and asked him to stay.  Now, if you go to another
>company and interview for a job and decide to take it when it is
>offered, did Boeing "run you off"?

 Good point. Curry basically told Bama to "take this job and shove it".

>>Jackie Wilson
>>Boeing Computer Support Services
>
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>Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
>"Software, as long as it works, doesn't fail."


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From: tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay)
Subject: Re: Miami #1
Keywords: do they deserve it?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 07:48:02 GMT

In article <70885@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>

snip, snip...

>like FAMU, etc.  Why aren't you also harassing Washington for playing such
>powerhouses as Oregon St., Oregon, Arizona St., etc.  What's good for the

Did it occur to you that they are PAC 10 teams and Washington *must*
play them?  Washington did schedule Nebraska. Miami, on the other
hand, schedules all their oponents.  Also, Oregon and Arizona St.
aren't pushovers and would have a field day against FAMU and TCU. You
seem to forget that playing in the PAC 10 means that they will face
Stanford, USC, Cal, Washington St. and Arizona. All these teams were
AP top 25 at one point this season, except for Arizona.
 
>goose....  Just because Miami didn't beat FSU or PSU by 20 points
>doesn't mean that they didn't win big enough.  Hey, they beat them
>didn't they.  Also, with the Arizona game, teams don't play well EVERY
>week.  At least some don't.

Well, #1 teams are supposed to...


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