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From: rsvanc00@nx37.mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance)
Subject: Re: TNG Grade Report: "Chain Of Command" Part I
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:17:37 GMT

In <rawdon.725233591@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
>Finally, Jellico's seemed rather over-the-top at times.  From the perspective
>of this viewer, it was never explained WHY he wanted the ship to move onto a
>four-shift rotation, or for that matter WHERE he got the extensive detailed
>technical information about the Enterprise in his head.  (Or WHY, if it was
>possible to improve the Enterprise's capabilities in so short a span of time,
>it hadn't been done years ago.)  I have no problem with his making these
>demands and expecting them to be met, only with the fact that the hows and
>whys behind them were never explained.  This smacks of manipulation to me, and
>needless manipulation at that.

The reason to going to a four-shift rotation should have been obvious to you.
Three shift rotations mean people are at stations for 8 hours a time.
Four shift means that they are on duty for 6 hours at a time.

When the crew is preparing to go to war and is expected to face off in
battle, the Captain would want his crew at their best, well rested and their
peak. He also would want them to spend less time at stations, if there is
a four-shift rotation and the ship goes into battle, and people get injured
or killed at their duty stations, it makes it easier to replace needed
personnel.

Second, it should have been clear also why Jellico wanted so much to
increase the performance of the Enterprise's defensive systems. The
Enterprise is a vessel of scientific research and emergency colony
relocation. Though it has defensive and offensive systems, it was not
built to be a vessel of war. Believe me, there are some smaller battleships
in service to the Federation that stand a good chance of defeating the
Big E if they went to war with each other.

Third, and finally, what should have been tatooed on Jellico's head would
have been the words, "I AM A PLOT DEVICE!"

Happy Shaven Yak Day everyone! :)

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From: mw@peary.unh.edu (Mahadev Wudali)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Hers one wores in CoC I
Date: 21 Dec 1992 20:27:43 GMT
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In article <1992Dec21.174638.29106@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, ckt0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHARLES KEITH TESSLER) writes:
> Pecard and the new ass hole incharge duccuss the misssion in 10 foward hardly
> a sucure location. any one of a the people could have hure them not to mention
> what some hight tech bug could have picked up. They at least could have spoke
> in code words. But they just said everthing. Someone have to teach both of
> them a thing about espongae.
> -- 
> 
>                                   Keith Tessler
>                                   Id: CKT0@LEHIGH.EDU
>                                   Tel # (215) 758-1364
Ha! Ha! Ha!




That wqas a good one......
I try to screw up my english regularly when I am spoken it that language with that other peoples but this one was the one of the could be able to be the best one yet.....



I hope it was not a jenuine article....

even if so it was very funny....


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From: kling@esd.dl.nec.com (Curtis Kling)
Subject: CoC I: What Was The Teaser?
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:56:35 GMT


Here in Dallas, KTXA has cruelly lengthened the run time of TNG to 1:01, so
when my VCR started recording at 7:00 p.m., it got the title sequence. 
(No, my clock isn't off because programs start on the hour on other channels!)
Would someone with a photographic memory please post or email a transcript
of the teaser to Chain of Command part I?

I saw part II Sunday and, unlike previous two-parters, it's even better than
part I. Could that be because they wrote the whole story at one sitting?
And where was any reference to Deep Space Nine? I hope they mention the
events of CoC in the premiere of DSN/DS9 (whichever acronym you prefer).
Can't wait for January 5, but DSN/DS9 will conflict with Quantum Leap here!
To quote Sam Beckett, "Oh boy!!!"

Curtis Kling
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From: HADCUJEK@admin.uh.edu (Julia E. Kosatka)
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Subject: CoC II - Very Small Spoiler Question
Date: 27 Dec 1992 06:28:25 GMT
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The following contains a very minor spoiler for CoC II.






















Tim Lynch asked if anyone knew what Picard said after "You can't hurt me!".
Someone responded with three lines of dialogue - in french.  [I tried to 
find the post, but my 1200 baud modem wore my patience out before I found
it again.:-)]  Would someone post the English translation for those of us 
who don't remember their french?  Of the words I thought I recognised, they 
didn't seem to make any sense strung together.  :-)  

Reminds me of most math texts I've ever been subjected to. :-) 

Thanks, in advance.
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
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Subject: Re: Starfleet Medical
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:52:43 GMT
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In <8779.406.uupcb@the-matrix.com> scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield)  writes:

>Without dragging out my tape of "Farpoint", I'm pretty sure that it was
>implied or stated that McCoy was a retired Surgeon-General of Starfleet.

No, the only thing implied or stated was that he was an Admiral in
the Star Fleet Medical Corps.  

>Yes, I know he was conducting an inspection of the sickbay, but I'm sure
>he could do that after retirement.  (Besides, I have a feeling that the
>inspection was probably honorary.)

Except that he was a long way out in space for a retiree to be.  He
also wore something that looked like a uniform.  (Though, granted,
it could have been Banana Republic. :-)
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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: The Battle Bridge
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:39:13 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <athos-281292155731@kip2-18.apple.com> athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>Since my ST Tech Manual doesn't have a picture of the battle bridge, I am
>wondering what episodes it appeared in so I can go buy them.  Any clues?
>
Encounter at Farpoint and Arsenal of Freedom are the only ones I can think
of that might be on tape/laserdisc commercially.

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From: aa396@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Henley)
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Subject: Re: COC and the Emmy's (Possible minor spoilers)
Date: 27 Dec 1992 19:20:11 GMT
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Actually, your theory seems to make sense if it's true that
Emmy nominations for next year are due by the end of December.
Originally we heard that CoC was moved up in the schedule
because the episode was a tie-in to DS9 which had to be aired
before DS9 (supposedly Part II ended with the Enterprise
visiting the DS9 station).  But that didn't happen and there
was no tie-in, other than the very vague one of the Cardassians
being villains both in CoC and DS9.  So your explanation may be
the real reason why DS9 was moved up in the schedule.

After seeing CoC Part II I would agree that Stewart DESERVES
an Emmy nomination...

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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
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Subject: Re: DS9 Preview Film
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:24:27 GMT
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In article <C00Dqw.B5u@well.sf.ca.us> emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us (Emmanuel Goldstein) writes:
<Did anybody happen to catch a 10 minute preview of Deep Space Nine?
<It showed here in New York this past Sunday evening but was 
<completely unannounced. It had interviews with the cast members,
<including the captain of the space station who isn't too fond
<of Capt. Picard for a rather good reason. 

It was only 4:22 long and was part of a 56 minute Electronic Press Kit.  As
far as I know, a 10 minute piece has not been done by Paramount.  It is possible
that WPIX (if that was the station) took some of the other interview bits and
edited them into the news piece.
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From: demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu 
Subject: science fiction
Organization: OSU Advanced Computing Center for the Arts and Design
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:10:46 GMT

)Pardon my ignorance, but I have been following the discussion of CoC for
the past couple weeks and I'm unclear on one point.  What do you define as
"science fiction plot devices"?  What is required for a book/movie/show to
be called science fiction? (Is the Douglas Adams trilogy SF?
From: eric@npri6.npri.com (Eric Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Troi is capable of wearing a uniform (SPOILERS)
Summary: Troi, bring me a cup of Earl Grey...
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:12:53 GMT
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

[various statements deleted]

Regarding her choice of uniform: Has everyone forgotten her
Betazoid/zed background? Marriages take place in the buff. I have the
sense that female anatomy is revered and placed on display for effect.
This may explain Cap'n Picard's leniency toward her wardrobe.
Also, the E. is not usually a battleship--it is supposed to be a ship of
peace with kids, clowns, balloons, etc. Under these circumstances
standards might be relaxed.

As for her place on the bridge, this is in case the ship encounters
alien life forms whose languages baffle the universal translator.
In these cases, Troi may put out her hoo^H^H^H feelers and contribute
to understanding the situation. (Granted, this doesn't seem to happen
very often...)

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: Saturday Night Review - "Chain of Command Part II"
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:53:39 EST

 -=> Yanjuna babbled to All and look what he said! <=-

 > PM> SPOILERS ahead for "Chain of Command Part II"

 > PM> SPOILERS!  -Do not cross the Cardassian border


 Ya> Since we know that Cardassians use torture, and if we take the
 Ya> Canadian- Japanese example of breaking cultures, one can just imagine

Hey, watch it there I'm a Chinese-Canadian! :-)

 Ya> The original Saturday Night Review did not like the story because
 Ya> it seemed to have no definite story, just an excuse to torture Picard
 Ya> and the 2 parter seemed to be just a setup to DS9.

Perhaps, but it was an excellent lead in.  Perhaps just an excuse to
torture Picard but it's not like it wasn't a good excuse.  Look at what
we got in the end!

 Ya> To truly set up a LONG story arc, you do need set up.  We needed
 Ya> several Klingon episodes and Romulan episodes to set up the
 Ya> "Redemption" arc; and I suspect "I Borg (Borg Scissorhands)" will be a
 Ya> crucial setup for the upcoming Borg arc.  These stories will have a
 Ya> hard time existing as stories on their own.  (Perhaps not impossible,

Absolutely.  Even though the final product can be kinda cheesy, CoC was
a beautiful lead in and I truly loved it.

 Ya> IMO the
 Ya> Picard/Madred story was complete enough on itself to excuse some
 Ya> dangling background threads which will probably be followed up on
 Ya> later. (Though the part where Madred explains the Cardassian
 Ya> military rule to Picard is absolutely chilling and intruiging.  I've

Absolutely.  The story line was strong and it held well.  I see no
"excuse" in anything.  If anything, the producers set up a marvelous
episode and was smart to move it to emmy nomination time.



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From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:32:30 GMT

In article <ewright.724974814@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <1992Dec18.165041.7682@u.washington.edu> gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
>>An original show with a strong female lead will find it tough going, 
>Remember "Remington Steele?"

	The exception that proves the rule, I think. The show focussed on
the two of them and their interactions, not just on her. And the show went
at great lengths on how Laura had to circumvent male power in non-traditional
ways, often in comedic ways.

	Still, just one show against many, many others.



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From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Piccard's butt - Chain of Command II - SPOILERS
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:49:26 GMT

In article <BzoEFC.16z@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Eric Schlene <eschlene@indiana.edu> writes
>> So what was gained by making poor ol' Pat appear in the buff? [..] 
> 
> I find it very interesting how this shot of Patrick Stewart prompts you  
> to post here like you did, yet you neglect to mention (or refrain from  
> posting this) due to the fact that Marina Sirtis' body is constantly  
> being pressed unnaturally by that body suit normally seen on ST:TNG.  
> Your post leads me to believe that you don't feel it was proper for the  
> show to show Patrick Stewart's body as it did, and at the same time  
> your silence on Marina Sirtis' overtight suit in your post leads me to  
> believe that you feel it's okay for her to compress, display and  
> distort her body.  

most of an INCREDIBLY GOOD rebuttal deleted to save bandwidth...

> -- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
> -- NeXTmail welcome


YES!   Yesyesyesyesyes!  Go Jeff!  This is the most intelligent and well-
thought out response on this subject I've ever seen!  It's good to know
there are some men with brains and sense out there.  I admire you.  Keep
on injecting a note of reason into this group!

Kellie M-S
matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
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From: callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
Subject: Re: DID ANYONE PICK THIS UP -CoC II- Poss. Sp.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:03:39 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

lyon@egr.msu.edu (Scott Lyon) writes:

>In article <1993Jan02.011338.16546@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchma
>n) writes:
>>
>>However, the word "earth" is also an english synonym for dirt, which has more
>>relation to the word "unearthed" than the name of our planet does. 
>>Since Picard
>>and Madred were speaking english (or whatever it's called in the 24th century)
>>it was an entirely appropriate word to use.

>Here's an interesting concept: Is the name of our planet any more "Earth" than
>our local star is "Sun"? Isn't the actual name of our planet Terra(hence the
>word terrain, and a few others), where the name of our sun is Sol. Is it

Actually, every "real" reference I've seen calls it Earth. Of course, 
since terra is Latin for earth/land, it's the same thing ;-)

>possible that the word "earth" is as much a generic term as "sun"? Perhaps
>other civilizations would call their OWN planets the earth, although they would
>have different names.

Well, since the 'quakes on Mars were called marsquakes, and we use terms
like stellar wind (as opposed to the solar wind of our sun), it seems
natural that it would be un-marsing, but that looks rather odd--and what
do we do on planets with _really_ weird names? How about uncardassiaing,
or un-klingon-homeworlding? Now, it probably wouldn't sound that ridiculous
in the speaker's native language, but in english...

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From: gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis)
Subject: Re: Troi Smut????
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:45:33 GMT

Brad Barton (brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec30.030652.6199@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Dean Adams) writes:
: >In article <1hqeteINN79b@bigboote.WPI.EDU> norbert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Jame
s) writes:
: >>
: >>A very trustworthy friend of mine SWEARS that
: >>Marina Sirtis (Coun. Troi) made a porn movie...
: >>Can anyone clear this up?
: >>
: >
: >Yea...  Your friend doesn't know what he/she is talking about.
: >
: >Either that or they consider R-rated films to be "porn".
: >
: >Sigh.  WHEN will this idoitic excuse for a "rumor" EVER end?
:
: The movie that I have confirmation on was a "hard" R.  It does contain
: nudity, including chest of Marina Sirtis.  I have a GIF or two from this
: movie.
:
: I also have an authentic GIF from a movie that I haven't identified yet.
: (Actually two pics).  One is her nude in a pool and the other is her tied
: to a bed with a female hand playing with one of her breasts.  These two,
: I have been told, are from the rumoured porn movie.

The pics are either from "Blind Date", "The Wicked Lady" or "Death Wish 3".
They are all rated "R" and they are the ONLY films Marina has appeared
nude in.
I wish there were more however!  8-)

George Cifrancis III
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Subject: Re: Show Us the Enterprise-B and E!
From: accajt@vaxa.hofstra.edu
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:30:51 EST

In article <1gtclnINNhmi@CS.UTK.EDU>, lape@cs.utk.edu (Bryon S. Lape) writes:
> In article <tomcat.724217665@cwis> tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
>>cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:
>>
>>
>>	contracts for each cast member.  In any case, Richard Arnold
>>	had stated that some of the cast members may re-new, but
>>	Stewart is not one of them..as well as Spiner and Dorn.
> 	^^^^^^^
> 
> 	When asked by Letterman whether there would be any movies, Stewart
> said that he hoped so.
> 
> 
> Bryon

	To pick nits...this was an episode of Letterman from over a 
year ago (though repeated recently -- perhaps the cause of 
confusion)

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From: kkane@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kevin Kane)
Subject: Re: Chain of Command questions (light spoilers)
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 22:23:09 GMT

1) I think Madred was just trying to get Picard to submit to him.. some
sort of twisted revenge for the thing about the eggs he talked about.

2) I don't think the Admiral was in cahoots with the Cardassains and she
thought there was a metagenic weapon also.. maybe she is a poor actor
which made some of us think she was in cahoots with the Cardassians.

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