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From: mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
Subject: Re: Jones Cable
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 16:33:12 GMT

In article <krikket.0036@meltdown.chi.il.us> krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick) writes:
>I was on the phone with Jones Cable last night.  For those of you who are
>interested, they are planning on picking up the Sci-Fi Channel at the beggining
>of the year --IF-- they get enough people calling in requesting it.
>
>So call in and get you're name placed on the list!!!

Call for your neighbors too...

		William Moxley
		mox@vpnet.chi.il.us

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: cweir@chinet.chi.il.us (Charles Weir)
Subject: Commercial Motorcycle Training?
Summary: Where can I pay to learn to ride?
Keywords: Motorcycle training
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: chi
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:36:01 GMT

Please can anyone help?   I want to learn to ride a motorcycle _safely_.   

I'm looking for an organization that provides training, either individual 
lessons, or a group course.  For money.

I know about the Motorcycle Safety Foundations's courses, organized by the
local universities.   Unfortunately state spending cuts mean that there is
a six-month waiting list for their excellent free courses.   (Turning up
hoping that there will be people that don't show doesn't work either - believe
me, I've tried!).

Perhaps someone knows of a driving school somewhere in the area that does this?
Or anything?

- Charles



Newsgroups: chi.general
From: susan_soric@upubs.uchicago.edu (Susan Soric)
Subject: Oct. 16 Protest War Against Bosnia
Organization: Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:28:24 GMT

NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS 
>From the Balkan Action Coalition



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  Oct. 13, 1992

Oct. 16 National Day of Protest against War in Bosnia

	     The Chicago-based Balkan Action Coalition will join
 a nationwide protest Oct. 16, organized by Muslim 
communities in 70 cities on the North American
 continent, calling for an end to the genocide in 
Bosnia-Herzegovina.
     	The day of protest was initiated by Bosnian 
Ambassador Mohammad Sacirbej as a desperate
 plea for help from the world community as Serbs
 take by force most of what remains of the newly
 independent nation of Bosnia-Herzegovina.
	    Chicago protesters, who join together as part of 
the Balkan Action Coalition (a multi-ethnic 
coalition of individuals and organizations 
concerned with peace in the Balkans) will form
 a chain of freedom throughout major downtown
 Chicago streets Friday afternoon, holding signs 
and passing out anti-war literature as they call 
for an end to Serbias policy of ethnic cleansing.
 Ethnic cleansing is the Serbian name for genocide.
 This policy has taken the lives of thousands of 
Muslims and Croatian Catholics, and has driven
thousands more from their homes.
	     Muslims will meet at Daley Plaza for prayer and
 a sermon from 1:30 to 1:50 p.m., after which they
 will be joined by other protesters.  The group will 
disperse to form a freedom chain along Dearborn, 
Clark, LaSalle and Michigan Avenue.  Protesters will 
stand along these streets throughout the afternoon
with signs, banners and placards calling for an end
 to the slaughter and for freedom for Bosnia-Herzegovina.

For more information call:  Sahar Taman  (312) 490-4866


Newsgroups: chi.general
From: chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski)
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:33:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.025635.15458@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson) writes:
> 
> <plug on>
> 
> Carol Mosely Braun is worth spending the couple of minutes
> it takes to vote.  Even if your disgusted with all the	:your => you're
> other candidates, you can vote for her and leave the rest
> of the ballot empty.  Or vote the ins out.  
> 
> Whatever.
> 
> <plug off>
> 

Umm, don't you think the plug would be more effective if
you offered some REASONS why it's important to vote for her?

Should we vote for her in order to vote AGAINST her opponent?
Should this be strictly a gender/race based decision?

I'm getting about as disgusted at the Braun/Williamson choice
as I am at the presidential choice.  About all that was missing
in the "debate" was stuff for the candidates to throw.

So why don't you offer some reasons why I should vote for her?

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson)
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:56:35 GMT


<plug on>

Carol Mosely Braun is worth spending the couple of minutes
it takes to vote.  Even if your disgusted with all the
other candidates, you can vote for her and leave the rest
of the ballot empty.  Or vote the ins out.  

Whatever.

<plug off>
From: mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Commercial Motorcycle Training?
Keywords: Motorcycle training
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:36:47 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Vpnet Public Access

Well as you probably know, Northern has a motor cycle training class,
but I think there is a waiting list.  You might want to try College of
Dupage, they have them every so often.  The general information number is
1(708)858-2800 ext 2380.

		William Moxley
		mox@vpnet.chi.il.us
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Jones Cable
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:14:26 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

I was on the phone with Jones Cable last night.  For those of you who are
interested, they are planning on picking up the Sci-Fi Channel at the beggining
of the year --IF-- they get enough people calling in requesting it.

So call in and get you're name placed on the list!!!

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Newsgroups: chi.general
From: loki@netcom.com (James E Myers)
Subject: What's to do?
Summary: Visiting Chicago, want information
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:23:35 GMT

	My wife is being sent to Chicago for a business meeting and I'm 
tagging along with her.  We'll be there over a weekend.  We've been told the
museum is a must-see, but what else can people suggest that we see or do?

	--James

Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.mail
From: an@msen.com (An Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Help stamp out the super-crossposted goblins
Organization: MSEN, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:30:49 GMT

In article <1b4o56INNnfv@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
>Greg Kuperberg (greg@dent.uchicago.edu) wrote:
>
>: Let's keep the chi.* groups out of the loop.  Right now I see that
>: linac and ncar (or someone who talks to ncar) seem to be sending
>: the chi.* groups to the other side of the country.  Could the news
>: admins or sysadmins at these sites stop the leakage?  I'd be
>: muchabliged.
>
>We pick up a full feed of the chi.* groups, and I try to keep myself at
>least somewhat familiar with how dialup Internet access is going in that
>area.  For one thing Michigan is only 5 hr away (and maybe 3.5 hr if that
>super high speed train thing goes through!).
>
>You all are welcome to a full feed of mi.* if you'd like it.
>
>  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
>        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562
>
>

Greatly appreciate it, Ed, for the chi.* groups....now that I'm here
in A^2  !  Actually, when I was in the windy city, I had always longed
for the mi.* hierarchy.  
As you said, the two great cities are practically neighbors, being
connected with each other since time immemorial by road, train, and
plane, and so should be connected by wires also!

An Nguyen
e-mail: an@msen.com

....speaking for himself.

Newsgroups: ils.forum,chi.general
From: kenlee@ils.nwu.edu (Kenneth Greenlee)
Subject: Re: Lead Or Leave - candidates
Summary: Call now!
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:59:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.142230.25419@ils.nwu.edu> dfoster@ils.nwu.edu (David Foster) writes:
>For those of you who signed the petition, here's one more thing
>you could consider doing.  Following is a list of the local
>candidates and their phone numbers:
>
>Senate
>
>  Carol Moseley Braun (D)      312-541-9292
>  

I just got called back by the Braun office by Kim, and she said that
"they're continuing to develop their relationship with Paul Tsongas
and would make a decision regarding LoL at a later time."  I asked her
two questions:  when would Braun come to a decision (a: well ... after
the elections, of course), and what did deciding on LoL have to do with
Tsongas anyway (I don't even remember.  Dave, does he have anything to do
with it?).  She gave no reasonable response to the latter question.  So
I chuckled heartily and told her I would tell all my friends (she almost
certainly doesn't realize the power of Usenet!).  Now, I am most 
certainly for Carol, but who's going to promise anything of this sort
after they're elected?   So call now! and ask for Kim, tell her you just
heard from Ken about her disappointing decision, and ask her
what Tsongas has to do with such a personal decision and commitment,
and tell her that hearing the commitment would cement your decision,
and not to hear it would reinforce all those nasty things in the press.
You know, I usually don't get so wrapped up in being political, but this
has such beautiful mind fuck potential, it just fills me with glee.

Oh, by the way.  I left a while ago.  So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Ken

P.S.  I'm cross-posting this to chi.general, just to fan the flames.
Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.mail
From: learn@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk)
Subject: Re: Help stamp out the super-crossposted goblins
Organization: Dares No Organization Like Dis Organization
Distribution: chi
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 14:20:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.183921.20562@midway.uchicago.edu> Greg Kuperberg writes:


>If you look at the latest discussion about Attention Deficit Disorder
>in this news group, you'll see that the posters are all over the
>country, and they aren't concerned with Chicagoland, at least not in
>this discussion.  Presumably the posters simply don't pay close
>attention to the fact that chi.general is one of the groups in the
>distribution list.  But you can't post to newsgroups that your NNTP
>host doesn't carry, even if it's just a reply to another article.

If you were paying atention, you'd have noticed the origin of this
discussion concerned the annual Attention Deficit Disorder Conference
which is taking place in Chicago this month. Such things normally have 
a life which winds down in a couple of weeks. (Of course, someone could
tie this discussion into that one and create a really nice fray on the
net USwide at least. :-)

Political discussions in chi.general also aren't essentially concerned
with Chicagoland, and neither are lots of others but people posting
to them seem to be local for the most part.

In short, I don't see a problem.


Bill Vajk

Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.mail
From: greg@dent.uchicago.edu (Greg Kuperberg)
Subject: Help stamp out the super-crossposted goblins
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, U. of Chicago
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:47:18 GMT

It should be clear that there is a terrible disease on Usenet for the
world-wide groups.  Someone cross-posts an article to five different
groups, and the responders don't know which groups the original poster
actually reads, so they respond to all of them.  You eventually
get unstoppable, fragmented discussions in dozens of newsgroups at once.

Let's keep the chi.* groups out of the loop.  Right now I see that
linac and ncar (or someone who talks to ncar) seem to be sending
the chi.* groups to the other side of the country.  Could the news
admins or sysadmins at these sites stop the leakage?  I'd be
muchabliged.
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: jimpuls@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jim Puls)
Subject: /ugc October 20 Meeting Announcement
Summary: System Administration
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:05:27 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL

/usr/group/chicago presents...

Resource Management
presented by
Ken Strelzyk
System Sentry, Inc.

The next meeting of /usr/group/chicago will be held at
7:00 PM on October 20, 1992 at Van Kampen Merritt, One
Park View Plaza, Oak Brook Terrace.  The primary focus of
this talk will be systems administration as it is viewed from
the company's perspective as well as from the Systems
Administrator's perspective.

The business of Resource Management is an art, one
which requires the balance between hardware and software
knowledge, interpersonal skills for working with the
users of the system they administer, and creating tools to
make their jobs easier.  This becomes even more difficult
when they administer disparate systems where procedures
for system administration vary or are in limited existence.
This meeting will present ideas and tools that you can use
to help understand the use of resources in your UNIX
environment.

The meeting will be held October 20, 1992 beginning at
7:00 PM at Van Kampen Merritt, 1 Park View Plaza, Oakbrook
Terrace.  For membership information or any other questions,
call Kathy Koszewski at (708) 652-3888 or email to
kathy@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: jimpuls@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jim Puls)
Subject: /ugc September 15 Meeting
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:04:36 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL


/usr/group/chicago
Meeting Announcement

October 15, 1992

Future Directions of Object Orientation

Joe Dvorak, Senior Project Engineer
Northrop Electronics Division
Rolling Meadows, IL

Meeting Location:
Krasna Hall
Illinois Benedictine College
College Avenue/Yackley Road, south of Maple Avenue
Lisle, IL

Time:
6:00 pm Social Hour
6:30 pm Dinner (Chicken Kiev, $12 / person)
7:30 pm Technical Presentation - FREE

Since the development of SIMULA, the first object-oriented language,
25 years ago, the "object model" has matured considerably.  However,
several significant issues have arisen that must be resolved if object
orientation is to realize its potential as one of the most significant
advances in software technology during the last three decades.

Our speaker will discuss these issues, why they pose challenges to the
continued evolution and increased acceptance of object-orientation, and
how they might be resolved.  He will set the stage with a brief look at
the current status of object technology.

This meeting is jointly sponsored with the IEEE Computer Society and the
Association for Computing Machinery Chicago Chapters.

Please make dinner reservations to the IEEE office at (708)963-3828 by 10/12.
Direct requests for detailed directions or more information to Joe Feitler
at ISC, (708)505-9100 x277.

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Subject: Re: Problems with Cablevision of Chicago
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:50:13 GMT

In article <BvK398.Dot@ddsw1.mcs.com> pfleury@ddsw1.mcs.com (Patrick J. Fleury) writes:
>  [ story of dealing with cable company deleted ]
>
>I can't believe that I am the only person who has had trouble like
>this.  Who else has has had these problems?

Who else?  Anyone who has to deal with monopolies.  Although to their
credit, I have had very good experiences in dealing with Illinois Bell.  It
almost makes me feel like they care about me as a customer.
The plague of yahoo employees at utility companies will never go away
until the government granted license to be a monopoly goes away.

In reference to you problem, since your rent includes the cost of cable,
pester your landlord to stop paying the cable company until they fix the
problem.  If that doesn't work, withhold the cost of the cable service
from your rent payment and find some good books to read.

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
Ken Konecki
e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"I just found out that the brain is like a computer.  If that's true,
then there really aren't any stupid people.  Just people running DOS."
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: eisaman@cbnewse.cb.att.com (thomas.h.eisaman)
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:44:09 GMT

From article <1992Oct15.031307.24316@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, by mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson):
> In article  chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski) writes:
> 
>>Umm, don't you think the plug would be more effective if
>>you offered some REASONS why it's important to vote for her?
> 
> The reason I'm voting for here is because of her stand on
> decriminalizing marijuana.  The case for legalizing drugs
> is very strong yet it is rare that it even  gets debated in
> public and even rarer when an elected official supports
> this position.  This takes guts and character which is something
> Washington is in desparate need of.

Oh yeah, I think legalizing drugs is a good idea.    NOT!!!!

What do you think this will accomplish?  Do you acually think that
drug dealers are going to say, "Oh, it is legal now, I guess I will
sell my stuff through the govenment now.  I have always wanted to
pay taxes on my income before."  No, the dealers are still going
to be doing the exact same thing that they are doing now.  Only
if it were legal, then they can sell some drugs legally, and more
illegally.  This way if any trouble pops up, they can always show
how their books say everything was legal.  Among other things,
there are pharmaceuticals that are blackmarketed now, why would
legal pot, etc. be any different?  I have heard, and would expect
that legalizing drugs would increase government spending.  Just
because they would have to try to curb the blackmarket.

I didn't realize that Braun was for legalizing drugs.  That just
gives me all the more reason not to vote for her.


Tom
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson)
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:13:07 GMT

In article  chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski) writes:

>Umm, don't you think the plug would be more effective if
>you offered some REASONS why it's important to vote for her?

The reason I'm voting for here is because of her stand on
decriminalizing marijuana.  The case for legalizing drugs
is very strong yet it is rare that it even  gets debated in
public and even rarer when an elected official supports
this position.  This takes guts and character which is something
Washington is in desparate need of.

>Should we vote for her in order to vote AGAINST her opponent?
>Should this be strictly a gender/race based decision?

The drug war is a war on race.  Why is it that the vast majority
of people in jail for possession of drugs  are black?  One
could almost come to the conclusion that blacks are doing and
dealing most of the drugs in this country.  Ever watch the show Cops?

This war on drugs must end.  The murder rate in Chicago is going
to hit another high this year.  Every week, I hear gunfire going
off somewhere.  This is a shooting war with lots of innocent
people getting caught in the crossfire.  Last month, there was
a drive by shooting in front of my building.

Williamson wants to ratchet up the drug laws by making the penalties
tougher.  Unfortunately, the tougher you make drug laws, the more
vicious the major dealers get and thus, more murders, more shooting,
more innocent people making the nightly news as victims.

People seem to forget the lessons learned during Prohibition.
Carol Mosely Braun represents a small flicker of hope that
maybe reason will prevail.  Williamson represents no hope at
all and more of the same.

I could go on and on but don't take my word for it.  A good book 
on this subject is "The Case for Legalizing Drugs" by Richard 
Lawrence Miller.  There are lots of other benefits, like environmental, 
but I'm mainly concerned about not getting shot.

>I'm getting about as disgusted at the Braun/Williamson choice
>as I am at the presidential choice.  About all that was missing
>in the "debate" was stuff for the candidates to throw.

It was Williamson who was sanctioned for bringing race into this
campaign to begin with.  I thought the Lyne Martin - Paul Simon race
was alot more disgusting though.

Mark Anderson
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: res@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Rich Strebendt)
Subject: Re: Jones Cable
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:34:23 GMT

In article <krikket.0036@meltdown.chi.il.us>, krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick) writes:
> I was on the phone with Jones Cable last night.  For those of you who are
> interested, they are planning on picking up the Sci-Fi Channel at the beggining
> of the year --IF-- they get enough people calling in requesting it.
> 
> So call in and get you're name placed on the list!!!

Which phone number did you call?  I called the general purpose,
fixes-everything number and just got an indication that all the
channels were earmarked for something else, so no action would be
taken.  My call was a while ago, though, so it sounds like the
situation changed since then.

Did you call the Customer Service number, or a local office number?

					Rich Strebendt
					...!att!ihlpb!res
					r.strebendt@att.com
From: edf@amtfocus.amt.gss.mot.com (Ed Federmeyer)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Problems with Cablevision of Chicago
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:15:55 GMT
Organization: Motorola, Inc.  GSS/AMT,  Arlington Heights, IL

In article <BvK398.Dot@ddsw1.mcs.com> pfleury@ddsw1.mcs.com (Patrick J. Fleury) writes:
[horror story about bad service from Cablevision of Chicago deleted]
>
>I can't believe that I am the only person who has had trouble like
>this.  Who else has has had these problems?

I never did like that cable service.  They never seemed to get the new
stations in anything *near* to a timely manner (if at all!)  Did they
ever get the "Sci-Fi Channel" or "HA" (an all-comedy channel)?

I have tried them a few times over the years, and my rates kept going
up and up and up without any noticable improvement in the service.

And they kept giving me those really junky old boxes, that looked like
they were homemade by the local junior-high woodshop class!  Sheesh!

And when I wanted to drop the service, it was always like "We'll send send
someone out in 3 weeks".  No, I want to stop paying NOW!  I don't like
your service.  "We'll, bring the unit in to US then!"  Sheesh

Is there any choice of cable service in the Chicago suburbs?  (North
Riverside in particular?)  Lack of cometition seems to be making these
people feel it's okay to provide bad service.  There oughtta be a law... :-)

---
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General Systems Sector                  UUCP:      ...!mcdchg!amtfocus!edf
Advanced Manufacturing Technology       Voice:     +1-708-632-6499

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Newsgroups: chi.general,rec.music.makers,nwu.general
From: judge@robbie.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Judge)
Subject: music stores & videos
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:01:58 GMT


Does anyone know of a music store in the Chicagoland area, preferably in  
the north side or near north suburbs, that rents instructional videos?

please email & post replies
thanks
thomas
Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.mail