From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Re: NT Destined to Succeed??
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:30:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.073539.28697@cs.joensuu.fi> jahonen@cs.joensuu.fi (Jarmo Ahonen) writes:
>rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
>
>>In article <19189@mindlink.bc.ca> Ian_Upright@mindlink.bc.ca (Ian Upright) writes:
>>>At times I didn't, and with all of NT's supposed capability, and Microsoft's
>>>marketing, I thought it could actually be a success.. NOT!
>
>>	It also offers more bang for the buck in terms of performance,
>>	but OS/2 is hardly more solid than the NT beta.  (recent fud
>>	to the contrary inthis base on an obviously misconfigured
>>	machine, ignored).  If mission-critical is the goal, then
>>	NT or UNIX (preferably UNIX) are clearly superior to OS/2.
>
>>	Compatibility-wise, NT can't touch OS/2.  It's a matter of
>>	system integrity.
>
>If *I* want system integrity and stability, *I* would go for a Sparc Classic
>or any other *real* workstation with a *real* OS. But because I want to run
>all my old dirty software I bought OS/2. 



	I am interested in a trade off.  Frankly, if *all* shareware
	(eventhe registered stuff) and freeware apps/utils stopped
	working--I would probably care not one bit if I got nice, SOLID
	support for my real (read: paid through the nose for) Windows
	apps on a stable platform.

	I don't much care if 9/10th of the games I play run or not,
	nor do I care if most of my DOS programs (other than WP51 
	and archive utilities) fail.  

	The difference between whatNT offers and a Sun is that a Sun
	will *never* have the same level of software support that NT
	offers evenif NT really does only support the top 100 DOS
	and Windows apps.  That's 200 off the shelf shrinkwrapped
	(and pretty darn good) applications--and they're sure to be
	the hottest selling ones (Ami Pro, Excel, Word, WP4Win, WP51,
	Corel Draw 3, Adobe Illustrator, etc--most of which have promised
	or *shown* NT specific [mightonly be win32s, tho] versions).

	A sun might be fun, but if your work is DTP and WP, it's not 
	going to be nearly as good a choice to help get your work done.
	(especially in terms of bang for the buck.. At least until
	next year)



> If I could get the same software
>for a Sun, I would never even look at an OS made by a company which has
>used more than TEN years with the DOS without making it substantially better
>in any way. Well... I'd even buy a Sun if I could get it for the same money
>than a 486 with a reasonable configuration (disk 400 MB, 17" screen, 16MB
>of memory).



	Exactly.  People are looking seriously at NT because they know
	what apps they want/need to run, but they are *extremely* unsatisfied
	with the platform these have to run on.  (Note that I am not 
	referring to Mr. and Mrs. Joe Blow computer user, who think
	Win31 is just daydy, and whonever have any trouble because they
	run no more than 1 program + the clock) 


>>	I've heard this one for the last 12 months. I still don't 
>>	have a decent driver for my ATI or Diamond cards, and the
>>	much-hyped "seamless windows" doesn't work with post-SP
>>	8514/a's.
>
>Well... If I remember right, the first date for NT was a year ago...


	And OS/2 came out many a month later than promised.

	(On a side note, I still think that the GA was rushed
	to meet Win31 to the marketplace.  Judging from pre-service
	pack experiance, this was a *big* mistake.  MS has almost no
	real timeconstraint--they could put NT off for an entire 
	YEAR and not be in such bad shape [although more than a year
	from now would be pushingit, and Dec would probably be miffed..])




>I should check this but I could not care less - if OS/2 does not succeed,
>I'll do what I should (?) have done in the first place: buy a Sun or
>similar machine.


	I guess it depends on what you do.  I'dlike to play with UNIX
	(hell, just get Linux) but with OS/2, Win and a bunch of SW,
	I have maybe 100megs free, and Linux (+X) would fill most of
	this.


>During the meantime I will have enough time to use my OS/2 for a year or two.
>After that time my machine will be at least a bit outdated and then NT does
>not matter in any case...


	Every system is outdated by the time you get it from the shop.

	Kind of depressing.


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