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From: worman@cis.ohio-state.edu (robert worman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Stylewriter I and envelopes
Date: 24 Jan 1993 14:10:01 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
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In article <1juf92INNdpm@life.ai.mit.edu> mirsky@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Joshua Mirsky) writes:
>
>Hi. I have had some difficulty printing envelopes on my Stylewriter I.
>Firstly, it always seems to feed the envelope all the way through
>without printing anything on it when I try to print an envelope. I then
>have to reinsert the envelope, and most of the time it works.  But I
>am wondering why it feeds it through the first time. I am sure I have
>selected envelope in Page Setup. It acts kind of like a larger paper
>size was selected.

	Here is the way I print #10 envelopes with my StyleWriter from 
MacWrite II (although I suspect that it is the same for other programs):

	Page Setup is set for envelopes; I use the reduced view to lay out the
	addresses the way I want them.

	With the paper support panel of the SW pushed in, and having done 
	nothing with the envelope yet, I print.  The error message informs me
	of the lack-of-paper problem, waiting for me to continue/cancel.

[next part takes some practice at first]

	First, turn off the 'ready' light.
	With easy access to the back slot of the printer, insert the envelope
	into the manual feed slot.  There is a second or two for you to get it
	properly positioned, and then the printer will automatically pull it 
	through.  It is easy to load the envelope crooked here; I just eyeball
	the trailing edge of the envelope (still protruding from the slot) to 
	see if it looks even.  If not, just form feed it through and try to 
	insert it again.

	When you are satisfied, turn the 'ready' light back on and tell the 
	Mac you are ready to continue.  Voila!


	I know this sounds like an awful lot of work, but it is pretty simple 
once you have done it a few times.  Nonetheless, I would welcome mail from 
anyone who has a better way.

rob

ps.  credit should go to kevin m balogh for coming up with this method....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: oueichek@gram (Ibaa Oueichek)
Subject: Re: Which hard drive: Quantum or Maxtor??
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 01:27:35 GMT

Rich Long (long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com) wrote:
: 
: In article <Jan.28.12.39.30.1993.28486@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, gnelson@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gregory J. Nelson) writes...
: >I'm looking to buy an external hard drive for my LC in the 200Mb range. 
: 
:  I'm in the same boat, and in fact asked a very similar question a few days
:  ago. Check out the March 1993 MacWorld for a very informative disk review. It
:  seems (from that) the Quantum 240 is significantly faster than the Maxtor
:  213, and is about $100 more. 
  It's true that the Q240 is faster than the MX7213. But i don't think the 
  difference will be noticable in the case of an LC, given that the SCSI
  port can't use the disk at 100% of its performance. And i think the Maxtor
  should be more reliable, because it uses less mecanic parts than the precedent
  Maxtor drives.

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From: eaiu243@orion.oac.uci.edu ()
Subject: Re: HELP!: HP DeskWriter vs. StyleWriter II
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Jan 93 02:47:19 GMT

I read the evaluations of the StyleWriter II in MacWorld, and was amazed
at their conclusions, particularly that it outstripped the DeskWriter
in grayscales (text is a no-brainer).

Today I did a test. I printed the sample graphic from Superpaint 3.0
(the one of a yellow pencil, bent and with a Salvador Dali-esque look
to it). The StyleWriter II had by FAR the best image, with actual
greyscales. Following was the DeskWriter 550C (printing in greyscale,
scatter setting) and the DeskWriter (with 3.1 drivers). Speed was
as follows:
Best: HP DeskWriter 550C  4.75 minutes
      StyleWriter II      5 minutes
      HP DeskWriter       *8* minutes.

Clearly, the StyleWriter II wins. (I was sad, I've long been a 
proponent of the HP.)

--Shawn Barge
From: pierce@asc.slb.com (Edward Pierce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: FOR SALE:  PowerBook 170/4/80
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 27 Jan 1993 03:49:05 GMT
Organization: Schlumberger
Distribution: world
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PowerBook 170 w/ 4 Meg RAM, 80 Meg HD (6 mos into warranty)
Includes internal 14.4 FAX/Data modem (PSI PowerModem-4)

Asking $2500, but willing to negotiate.

Reply to pierce@asc.slb.com or voice me at (512)331-3254
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Macs Supporting 16"ers...hmmm
From: cvadsgvo@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:26:43 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
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In article <1k4t30INNkgj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke) writes:
> 
> Its interesting how most of Apple's new Macs have come out (and supposibly
> will come out) with support for 16" monitors. Just a few months ago word
> floated around here and in MacWEEK that Apple is trying to push 16"
> monitors as the 'future' standard. Is it me or is this rapidly occuring?
> -- 

i think Apple is pushing but it will not really succeed until the price of 16
inches drops to around 700 dollars.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:40:02 -0500 
From: Susan Wetherell <sw3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Microtek scanner plug in software for Photoshop needed.


The latest version is 2.04. I downloaded this one from AppleLink, but
Microtek will send you the latest, as well. (I keep a copy in my
Photoshop folder [not the one in the plug-ins] so that I can quickly
replace the plug-ins folder one when it crashes. Tends to be easily
damaged.)
From: ma168wai@imath1.ucsd.edu (Damon Lou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Street Fighter
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:11:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Hope this isn't a stupid question but...how come there are no games
like Street Fighter for the mac (that i've seen)?  The only games
that i've seen (in that genre) are really weak imitations.  I've
paid thousands of dollars for my computer, but i can't play games
that a Super Nintendo can play???  Is this because the Nintendo
has specialized hardware or what?

Thanks.
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: LaserWriter 6x0 and Photograde
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 93 01:34:41 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

bauer@informatik.uni-ulm.de (Christian Bauer) writes:

CB> If you consider the particle size (600dpi) of the toner the 
CB> FinePrint (RET) of the HP makes no real sense, as the variation 
CB> of laser pulses can't be followed by the Paricles of the toner. 
CB> In 300 dpi this has (toner was capable of 400 to 450 dpi) 
CB> made sense now it is only a technical feature until they have 
CB> a toner with double the resolution of 600 dpi! 

I guess I'm a _little_ confused as to what you're saying, so pardon me if I
sound stupid here, but:

HP is advertising that the toner particles for the new LJ4 are different,
microfine, and otherwise much smaller than previous toner particles for
previous LaserJet printers.  I have no reason to disbelieve them.

If you're thinking that HP is still using the old toner particle size in the
new printer, it looks like that's not the case--and therefore their RET
FinePrint should work out of the box.  At least, that's what I'm counting on
for my department's purchase of one of these puppies.

Anyone else have any different knowledge on this?

Aloha,
--Adam--
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Bret Oeltjen <oelt0002@student.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: LC card-FPU or PMMU?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78CF2DB3C016529@dialup-slip-1-41.gw.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 28 Jan 93 02:18:03 GMT
Organization: U of M
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:16:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.065200.14234@ultb.isc.rit.edu
> Sgt. Kleper, sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>I've had a //e emulation card in my LC for a while, and have gotten
>used to life without an Apple //. So now what do I get after I sell
>the //e card? (anybody want it?) Would an FPU speed up normal processes?
>A PMMU would allow virtual memory, right?? Is there such a thing as a
>card with both? I don't want to invest in a card that gives me two
>slots. It looks like a PMMU or FPU would be under $100, but I don't
>know which is more important. Right now it seems like I can't live 
>without either. Thanks for any info. Post or e-mail; whichever is 
>convenient! Thanks very much.
>
>-Scott J. Kleper
>"Sgt. Kleper"


You can get both on one board, if you wish.  Look for the Mac Products
ad in your fav Mac mag.  It is called the "Magic LC030 with CoProcessor,"
there is no 030 on the board, just the pmmu and a fpu.  I was going to
order one about 10 months ago, they were advertising them, but the
manufacturer didn't have them ready yet.  The people I called kept
giving me different answers when I asked what it really was.  I was
told more than once that it was an 030, but it is not.  I am sure they
have all of that figured out by now, though.  Not a bad deal...  really,
may want to see how much the LC to LCIII upgrade is(possibly $500?).  
You would get the PMMU, a speedier system(~2X), and an optional FPU 
built in.  Is this correct about the FPU?  I seem to remember reading 
that in the 1.11.93 or 1.18.93 MacWeek.


On a somewhat related note, what actually would the LCIII upgrade
all include?

I have:						LCIII
020    						030
no PMMU						PMMU (virtual)
10 meg ram (maxed out)		12 meg (4 on board and 2-4meg simms)
16 MHz						25 MHz
16 bit						32 bit
							optional FPU?
							16bit on the 12 inch (with the same vram)?

	Would this be about a 2X processing speed increase?
	
I am looking forward to the upgrade if this is all true.  I hope Apple
doesn't do something and make it slow relative to it's clock speed like
the IIvx.  I figure get the upgrade and then buy a 32 bit 040 accelerator
when the prices drop some more, fall-winter 93.

Let me know if this is too opitimistic.  I guess we will know for sure in
13 days!  

Thank you,

Bret Oeltjen
University of Minnesota
Electrical Engineering

sorry, I always babble on and on when I am tired.
Organization: Computer Operations, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:03:27 -0500 
From: "Alex S. Margita" <am3f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Macintosh IIsi Sale: $1550.
	<1993Jan26.181532.15757@ncsu.edu>

Our computer store at CMU  just posted new prices from Apple effiective today:

Mac IIsi 80/5             $935.00

14" Color Monitor    $467.00

Everything else has dropped in price also!


Al
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rmr@annexia.esd.sgi.com (Robert M. Reimann)
Subject: 24-bit color for LC II/III ?
Organization: Technical Publications, Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:21:08 GMT

Is anyone aware of 24-bit boards that fit the PDS
on the LC II/III?  Is it likely that the LC III
will allow you to expand its VRAM (like the Quadras)
to support 24-bit color (on a 14" monitor, at least)? 


			Thanks for any info,

			Robert.
From: djp@uniblab.aero.org (Dennis Persinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Multiple On-line CD Options?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:03:31 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hook.aero.org

I looking for options for keeping multiple CDs on line on our AppleShare
Server.  Two things that come to mind are a carousel (if users don't want
two different disks simultaneously); or a tower of CD drives, preferably
with some additional HW/SW so that all of the drives only use one SCSI
address (we have something like this on order for our Sun server).  Anyone
out there doing something like this?


Dennis Persinger
djp@uniblab.aero.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Killian Stoffel <Stoffel@CFRUNI52.bitnet>
Subject: 1 GByte HD on a MAC Plus
Organization: Uni Fribourg
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:32:46 GMT

We are trying to connect a 1 G Micropolis 2112 HD to a Mac Plus for a
slow !
information server. The Macplus will not boot from the disk although it
works
with a II and a SE. The disk works fine once the Mac Plus has been booted
from
a floppy.
We have tried connecting a MAC-PLUS-bootable hard disk in parallel to see
if
it is a problem with the power for the external termination without
success.
We have also tried re-initialising with silver lining 5.31 to no avail.

Any help would be much appreciated !
From: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: WANT: dealer w/PB prices = academic
Date: 29 Jan 93 00:02:30 GMT
Reply-To: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Organization: Organization?  We don't need no steenking organization!
Discliamer: Upon my being captured or killed, my professors will
            disavow any knowledge of me, my statements, and/or
            my mission.


In article <1k9g6gINNdru@savoy.cc.williams.edu>,
Citizen 93kwt@williams.edu (Wayne Thomas) writes :
>I'm looking for a dealer with PB prices close or equal to academic
>discount -- a phenomena which has occured re:other Mac machines in the
>past but I cannot at least quickly find at the current moment -- and
>who takes VISA.

  I just sent off the check for my PB 160 to MBS.  The prices they have are
quite competive with what the UofA charges, in PowerBooks, that is.  They have
high prices for desktops.

  Examples :

	145 4/40	1907
	145 4/80	2225
	160 4/40	2161
	170 4/40/modem	3616

  compared with the UofA :

	145 4/40	1859
	145 4/80	2175
	160 4/40	2111

  When you compare $20 for shipping from MBS against 7% sales tax at my campus
seller, MBS comes out ahead (at least for my 160).

  Their number is (800) 944-3808 or (301) 762-7405, and the address is

  7503 Standish Place
  Rockville, MD  20855

  I have no affiliation, I'm just a customer anxiously awaiting his new PB!

|--------------------------------|    "If you were happy all of your life,
|      J. Taggart Gorman Jr.     |     you wouldn't be human - you'd be a
| jtgorman@caslon.cs.arizona.edu |     game show host."
|--------------------------------|             Winona Ryder, in _Heathers_
From: jxj24@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Jacobs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Accelerating an SE by upgrading the 68000 to 16mhz?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:05:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jxj24@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Jacobs)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, chan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Chandima Cumaranatunge) says:

>In a response to a query on accelerating an SE last August, one reader
>wrote:
>
>"you could just accellerate the 68000 chip in your SE from 8mhz to 16mhz
>That would make it as fast as the SE/30 in the lab.  This would cost
>approximately 150 dollars US, but it is alot cheaper than adding a 68020
>or 68030!"
>
>I need to speed up an SE which is being used as a file server (using
>System 7 file sharing) on a small AppleTalk network.
>
>Several questions on this:
>------------------------- 
>Has anyone tried this? 
>Are there any architectural limitations on the motherboard to doing this?
>Can the local Mac agent install the new processor?
>Is it really as cheap as this?
>
No it wouldn't be as fast as an SE/30.

The 68000 at 16MHz wouldn't be as fast as a 16MHz 68030, but about half the 
speed for most practical use.  The 68030 has instruction caches on board
that hpld recently executed code according to the liklihood that the
computer will want to use them again real soon, therefore saving time that
would be spent fecthing them.

You want a faster SE?  Buy an accelerator.  Consider what it would take to
replace the 68000 on the logic board.  No way is this a cheap proposition.
Desoldering it is a nightmare, and using a killy clip to piggyback a
new processor is not necessarily a lot of fun either.  (Actually it is 
usually reliable, except it is a royal pain when it fails.)

Brainstorm (I think) may now make a clip on for the SE.  It's about $200
if my memory hasn't failed me.  Maybe $250.  Whatever.

Jon Jacobs
Dept. of Biomedical Engineering
Case Western Reserve University
Wow
From: brein@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov (Barry S. Rein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Can I use a Sun/3 monitor on a Mac?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:57:23 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: world
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I have a Mac SE/30 with an internal MegaGraphics 8-bit color card driving a
19-inch gray-scale monitor.  The monitor cable coming out the back of the
Mac has three BNC connectors for red, green, and blue.  Only the green BNC
is fed into the Mac's monitor.

Now, I have discovered an unused Sun/3 workstation with a color monitor. 
This monitor has 4 BNC inputs--red, green, blue, and sync.  See where I'm
leading...?

Is there a way of using the Sun color monitor with my Mac?  Or, is there a
different color-card I can put in my SE/30 to drive the Sun monitor?

******************************************************************************
*                               Barry Rein                                 
 *
*                        brein@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov                        
  *
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*                              No clever comment.                          
 * 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Low Cost Powerbook?
From: cvadsgvo@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:20:55 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadsgvo

a low cost powerbook? is that a dream?

macweek reported apple has designed a low cost powerbook w/ ext. flppy for a
list price 2000 dollar, but market research shows people are not interested, so 
the project is dropped.

i think apple is missing the point.

who want a low cost powerbook? i think there are two group of people.

1. poor students like me. they need a mac, like the idea of portable but can
not afford a powerbook. they would get a powerbook as the only computer if the
price is low enough. for them, reasonable functionality and low price are
essential.
so, a powerbook with only a SCSI and a serial port, a 1 bit screen, 16 mhz
68030 and INTERNAL floppy are good enough. all the other ports are nice but not
essential. (i doubt if more than 5 percent of the mac users ever use the audio
port.) for students, internal modem is not necessary. one serial port is enough
because i don't think many people will use the modem and the printer at the
same time.

2. those who already have a desktop mac and like a powerbook on the road. for
those guys, a powerbook only a serial port is enough. if a person already have
a full function mac, he does not need SCSI, floppy or ADB for the portable, as
long as he has the serial port to set up a small network so he can exchange
files between the two macs. it will not have a internal floppy and doen't even
need a ext. floppy port! a 16 mhz(like pb100) 68000 is enough! with a price low
enough, all the owners of IIsi and up will have one.

apple was critisized for putting all the "unnecessary stuff" which normal
people will not use on the mac. network was considered the biggest waste
several years ago. however, i think network is necessary, and all the other
ports could be eliminated if people don't need them.

price? i think the one for the first group could have a price of around 1200,
the one for the second group cost 500, both at 4/40 configuration.

none of the assumptions are supported by market researches. so maybe the
thoughts are little odd. a little marketing thought. 

what do you think?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 21M Flopticals?
From: hooverb@cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Bruce Hoover,Armstrong)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:45:27 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Engineering Research Center
Originator: hooverb@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu

From article <93023.214617U59985@uicvm.uic.edu>, by <U59985@uicvm.uic.edu>:
> The 21meg flopticals run about $500 and the disks themselves are very expensive

Actually, they are around $350 right now...

	 
> I think each 21meg disk costs over $10 right now. And you have to buy them in b
> oxes of ten.


The ones I have seen run around $25 to $30 per disk, which is about like
paying $1.50 for a 1.4 floppy.

They are cheaper if you buy ten, but you can buy them one at a time as
well.

Bruce Hoover
From: jaesyn@carson.u.washington.edu (Jason Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Modifying Apple HDSC Setup for Syquests...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:35:17 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

	I've been having problems mounting SyQuests on my PB 180, and I think
it's the disk drivers.  I'd like to standardize them all to Apple's driver 
(several came from other people during swaps, and I have no idea what app was
used to format them), but Apple's HDSC Setup 7.0 won't recognize the removable
media.  I recall a patch being available, but I can't recall what it was.
Anybody?

-Jason M Smith

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper)
Subject: LC card-FPU or PMMU?
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:52:00 GMT

I've had a //e emulation card in my LC for a while, and have gotten
used to life without an Apple //. So now what do I get after I sell
the //e card? (anybody want it?) Would an FPU speed up normal processes?
A PMMU would allow virtual memory, right?? Is there such a thing as a
card with both? I don't want to invest in a card that gives me two
slots. It looks like a PMMU or FPU would be under $100, but I don't
know which is more important. Right now it seems like I can't live 
without either. Thanks for any info. Post or e-mail; whichever is 
convenient! Thanks very much.

-Scott J. Kleper
"Sgt. Kleper"
From: brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Locking cases for the Mac II series?
Date: 28 JAN 93 15:35:33 EST
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.hahnemann.edu



      Anyone know if there is a manufacturer of case locks for Mac IIs,
   LCs, etc?  Arriving at work this morning, we discovered a Mac that
   would not load System 7.0.1 ... no, not a bad SIMM, just 4 walking
   4M SIMMs that have yet to return home.

      (Of course, when they finally return ... "Bad SIMM! Bad SIMM!!")

      andrew.  (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware