From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Woman-to-woman nude body-to-body contact.
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:15:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Dec14.111500.21858
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <Bz4D00.8yu@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
>In article <168BAA428.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu> TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu writes:
>>On the second issue:
>>I'm not imagining this. One of my dear brothers on soc.motss, once he
>>got up the nerve to ask a question, could come up with nothing more
>>insightful than "What do lesbians do in sex clubs?" Perhaps I'm being
>>too hard on him, but I hear questions like that enough from *straight*
>>guys. I expect better here.
>
>Are you saying that it is inappropriate for us to wonder about sexual
>practices and (even more interesting) mores in lesbian circles?  Of
>course we're not *only* sexual beings, but we *are* sexual beings; and
>some of our difference is defined in those terms.  The whole notion
>of lesbian sex clubs, for example, goes a long way toward dispelling
>the notion that all dykes cuddle and pet the cats for a sex life.

I think most of the people reading motss have a pretty good idea of
what two or more women do when they have sex together. The male
readers, for the most part, aren't heterosexual men whose desire is
inflamed by the idea of titillating discussion of nude female
body-to-body contact. Other women on the system have described in
detail what has gone on in a sex club (Seattle, Tsilke's reportage)
without technical discussions of specific mechanics. We have had some
technical discussions of things like dental dams, female circumcision
(not clitoridectomies). I think it will be a day of note when there
are proportionally as many discussions of clitoral hoods, clitorises
and labia as there are foreskins, cocks, and balls. It isn't far off.

Discussing Sex clubs has, paradoxically, little to do with sex. It has
to do with etiquette, the kind which Miss Manners will have little to
say about. It is enlightening to hear multiple points of view. I am
what I would believe be called 'aggressive' in those kinds of
situations. Others here wait-and-see what is going on. Some like two
or three friends to come along for support and accessorizing. Others
would die if they saw someone they knew. Some like to wander in dark
passages, others like to make eye contact and lead their catch off to
a quiet corner. Some don't mind sharing, others are terribly put off.
How do you say no. How do you initiate interest. How do you stop. What
happens after orgasm. Nothing I've written here has the least to do
with 'mysterious, penis-free' lesbian sex. It has to do with what one
does in a sex club.

Granted then, it is all terribly aesthetic, I'll double back and say:
we also like to be titillated. Sticky-fingered open-mouthed sex is
always interesting to read, and creates reactions which, by virtue of
the fact that our response as readers isn't totally controllable, are
liberating. I understand your androphobic response, but rest assured
almost all the male readers here are not interested in what John Money
calls 'psudo-lesbian porn'. And if they are, what of it? A lot of
women read it too.


-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.