From: indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Name changes  (mis-understood objective)
Originator: indu@iss700
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 21:23:57 GMT

>From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
>Subject: Re: Name changes ( mis-understood objective)
>
>indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM writes:
>> As for what  is trivial and what is not trivial - 
>> Sanjay  babu - THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE IN INDIA. And there are governments
>> elected by them, of them, for them. They know what is trivial and what is 
>> not trivial. YOUR SAYING THAT THIS MATTER IS A TRIVIAL MATTER, is another 
>> example of your ..... (like not sticking to SHONJOY).
>
>Am I not allowed a mind of my own just because there are people there in 
>India.  Can I not use my own judgement.  Do I have to go along with the 
>rabble.

  The community accepts your mind of your own, the way it accepts a persons 
  right of his own faith  etc,. But it is its primary interest to safe guard
  its SAFETY. Till, your mind-of-your-own does not threaten the society 
  IT IS FINE.  Once some thing wrong started, it should take some 
  remedial action.

  So I think your perception of TRIVIALITIES differ from SOCIETY's. 

>>The name change is  only a reversal of all the dis-graces that the country  
>>went through. It just reflects that we still have not forgotten the efforts 
>>of all our ancestors WHO FOUGHT THE ISLAMIC OPPRESSION in the past. It is one 
>>of the ways we can  avenge that TORTURE and brutalities of Islamic invasions.
>>A patriotic Indian would fell proud about it.
>
>Boy, you are easy to please.  Let me draw you an analogy, and you tell
>me how the situations are different.  Someone comes to your house, beats
>the hell out of the occupants, ransacks the place.  In the process, he
>moves your dumbbells, or whatever your favourite possession is.  After
>a little while, the police arrive, and the fellow flees.  You are naturally
>aggrieved, and rightly bear the guy a grudge.  Would you call moving 
>the dumbbells back to their original position a reversal of all the
>dis-graces that you suffered.  Would you deem that act avenging the
>torture and brutalities of the invasion.  I don't see how changing the
>names back is really any different.

  You DREW a good analogy. 
  Now, I ACCEPT your logics perfectly. So what is next logical step,
  punish that guy to the extent possible apart from getting back my 
  DUMBELLS (whatever it is) with some compensation. Right?

  By the time police trace that guy, HE IS DEAD. His children and Grand 
  children have legalised the plunder. They have started saying that it is 
  their RIGHT to keep the loot OR since, the person involved is their father
  or their ancestor they ARE BLIND TO LOGIC AND FACT, OR just by not 
  knowing the truth THEY WRONGLY ARGUE THAT whatever-it-is IT WAS NEVER MY 
  property. THEN?  I just want the dumbells restored. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT 
  ME TO DO? 

  Don't you think this action of changing the names, is one humble way to 
  pray for those souls - who have fought and  lost their lives  in protecting
  the HONOUR of the nation? To tell them, that we have not  forgotten their 
  sacrifices.

>And what about the followers of Islam who fought alongside you to shake
>off the British oppression.  Must you betray their trust.

   Who is saying so? Do not betray them. Atleast I never said or meant that
   in my previous posting.

>Boss, one thing I will say for you though.  For a guy with such extreme
>views, you are refreshingly restrained in your language.  And that is
>very good.

   Thanks.  I think I'm just not alone who feel this  way. I found that, after 
   eduacting people on these issues, people responded on very similar lines.
   Though the reactions and its intensity differed owing to PERSONALITY-TRAITS
   there was common-ness in all.

>Sanjoy Ghosh
-Indu.
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