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From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steven Dorner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Eudora SFU *almost* does it right...help?
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:18:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc

jackb@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jack Brindle) wrote:
In article <1992Sep11.171437.5490@mdd.comm.mot.com>, you wrote:
> I'm not sure I agree with this. The fact that the message will go through
> when it is pasted into a message seems to indicate that flow control
> works fine except when a file transfer is involved.

You're just not devious enough, Jack.  :-)

Eudora uses different strategies for sending different kinds of data.  Lots
of short lines end up with significantly less thruput than sustained 60+
character lines that go out with BinHex.  It's quite possible that BinHex
will go faster than normal text, if the CPU is fast enough to BinHex *and*
keep the comm pipe full.  It's also possible, if the CPU is slow, and
echoes are on, that BinHexing will slow down processing of the rogue SMTP
echoes enough to make the CTB try to flow control the modem.  Actually, now
that I think about it, odds are this latter is the problem.

> I wonder if maybe the smtp server is trying to interpret the X-attachment
> line in the header, deciding it can't, and throwing up its "hands" in
> response.

That would be a *horribly* broken SMTP server.  I personally volunteer to
put it out of its misery.

> The best way to find out, of course, is to connect a comm
> monitor/analyzer in line between the Mac and modem to view the data
> being transferred. Second best would be to turn on the trace facility
> that Ray has added in his C- script facility

These things should certainly be tried, though if it's flow control, the
latter may perturb things enough to make the problem go away.
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From: kehres@ima.com (Tim Kehres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: return receipt
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:54:40 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: International Messaging Associates, Menlo Park, California

In article <1992Aug25.131308.6052@midway.uchicago.edu> ogil@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
: 
> My experience with Return-Receipt-To: is that sendmail generates a
> receipt when the mail is delivered to the recipient's mail spool file.

Actually, it generates a return response (what I would refer to as a delivery
acknowledgement) after it has passed the message off the local mail delivery
program.  This is different than generating the message after it has been
delivered to the recipient's mail spool file since the local mail delivery
program can possibly fail, and/or do something other than depositing it in
the mail spool file.  For this to be done correctly, sendmail should not do
anything, and delivery notification should be the responsibility of the agent 
actually performing the final mail delivery.

Best Regards,

Tim Kehres
From: weissh@nextadm.cc.vt.edu (Hugh Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Getting Scripts into Eudora SFU?
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:12:52 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computing Center - Distributed Computing Group

I was hoping that there might be someone that has successfully gotten a
script installed into the SFU version of Eudora that would be willing
to answer a question.  I've gotten the script written and am trying
to get SFU Eudora to use it.  I understand that I need to use ResEdit
to install the script for navaigating in into the STR# 2400 resource.

To do this, I'm opening the script text file with TeachText, selecting
all the text, and copying it to the clipboard.  Next I fire up ResEdit
and open a copy of SFU Eudora.  I open the STR# 2400 resource and do
a paste into the first string item.  The script text does indeed get
pasted in, but when I then try to save the file, ResEdit complains
'Pascal Strings Too Long'.

I checked through the book, 'ResEdit Complete' but could find nothing
there to give me an idea of what this error message is trying to tell
me.  I've successfully installed navigation strings into 'Original 
Eudora' before with no problems.  Anyone have an idea of what I'm doing 
wrong?

Thanks...

-Hugh Weiss
-Virginia Tech Computing Center - Distributed Computing Group
-weissh@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu
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From: ggmar@news.duc.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Best place to buy Practical Peripherals modems?
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:59:30 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

I'm interested in getting a new Practical Peripherals 9600 baud or 14.4 kbaud
modem. Suggestions on where to get one (which place has the cheapest price,
whether or not a serial port cable is provided) would be appreciated. The
only place I know of is MacConnection, selling the 9600 baud modem for $289
without the cable.

Thanks in advance,

Gerald Marfoe
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:18:03 EDT
From: <HXW103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Softwares for SupraFaxModem V.32 ?????

 I just bought a SupraFaxModem V.32 (9600 bps) for my Mac IIsi, but it did n-t
 ot come with the software that supports my modem. Can anyone tell me someth-
 ing about fax softwares that supports this modem, and where to get it.
                                                          Thanks
From: howes@cat6.cs.wisc.edu (Glenn Howes)
Subject: Question on CTB 1.1 
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:41:51 GMT



When my CTB File Transfer Tool receives a ftSendMsg or a ftReceiveMsg, what
are the p1,p2,p3 parameters passed along with it? I assume one of them is 
a pointer to an array of FSSpec Records, and maybe one of the others is the
number of entries in that array.                 

On a related note, could somebody tell me which applications support these
messages so I can test responding to them.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: raymond@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Eric A. Raymond)
Subject: MacX and .Xdefaults (also olwm)
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:17:41 GMT

Is there a way to provide an .Xdefaults file to MacX?

Also, is it possible to run the Open Look Window manager under MacX?
From: Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Fetch, MacTCP, ARA, Powerbook
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:45:06 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

I have Fetch and MacTCP installed on my computer.  But when I open Fetch,
it still says I need MacTCP installed!  I heard I need ARA too, and I have
it on my PowerBook 170.  I want to copy ARA from my PowerBook to my Mac LC.
What is the name of the file and where is it?  Please answer as soon as
possible.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

From: Henry.M..Halff@p932.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Henry M. Halff)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: SupraFaxModem OWNERS PLEASE READ!
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:34:48 -0500

  RS> I purchased my SupraFaxModem direct from Supra for $399 WITH the
  RS> software and cable.  Not a bad deal.  I'm not sure if they are still
  RS> offering it this way, though.  If you don't want to spend the extra
  RS> money on the complete package, make sure that you get the correct
  RS> modem cable -- it must support hardware handshaking.

If you need to fax, you should get the full package since the fax software (by
STF) is probably the best available. If you don't need fax, you can probably get
a better modem for the money.
From: rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Roby Sherman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Are AppleShare Servers on Ethernet Asyncronous?
Keywords: appleshare async ethernet
Date: 13 Sep 92 01:53:20 GMT
Organization: The Tao of Programming
NNTP-Posting-Host: mthvax.cs.miami.edu

Hi.

I seem to remember hearing someone mention that a Mac being an
Appleshare fileserver was a bad choice over localtalk because the
connection was not Asyncronous. I was wondering if 1> This is a true
statement & 2> This problem could be eliminated by moving the server
to Ethernet. Any ideas?



                        thanks...

                              --Roby
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: waire@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Timothy A Waire Jr)
Subject: Re: Mac BBS software.... what options are there ?
Reply-To: waire@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Timothy A Waire Jr)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 12:32:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.074302.20382@bmug.org> Bernard_D._Aboba@bmug.org writes:
>>The only problem with the Internet-FirstClass gateways is price...
>
>Not so. Postal Union has the following problems:
>
>1. Cannot handle batched and compressed mail.

With a high speed modem connection with compression (v.42bis), you will get 
better throughput then the compressed batch mail.  Also, remember that the 
UUCP standards do not require compressed and batched mail.

>2. Cannot take UUCP incoming; can only poll.

PostalUnion Lite version 1.0.3 adds to the capability to handle incoming or
polling UUCP connections.

>3. Is very slow; can only process around 1 message/second on a IIfx

Can't argue here!

>4. Must be run on a separate machine

Don't think so!  As you long as you have AppleTalk enabled, the gateway can
run on the same machine as the FC server.

>5. Is incompatible with the Comm Toolbox. Any comm toolbox connected
>lines will cause Postal Union to crash on callup. 

PostalUnion requires it's own dedicated line, but will work with the CTB.

Hope this helps!


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From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: RE: WANTED: Info on setting up a BBS
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:46:11 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

You'll probably be off to a good start if you investigate these two BBS
programs:  FirstClass and Second Sight.  The FC BBS number is 416-609-2250.  I 
don't know how to contact SS.

FC is good for accessing InterNet and for it's graphical user interface.

SS is very strong for regular FidoNet access (using Tabby, I guess) and I like 
it for it's customizability and the number of great external (doors) programs.

FC is about $450 for a +200 user system, and SS is about $150 from what I last 
heard.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jackb@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jack Brindle)
Subject: Re: Eudora SFU *almost* does it right...help?
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:14:37 GMT

In article <sdorner-110992084145@dorner.slip.uiuc.edu> sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steven Dorner) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.034852.9385@mtu.edu>, wdburns@mtu.edu (WILLIAM D.
>BURNS) wrote:
>> Problem 1: I can send mail to my SMTP server with no problem EXCEPT when
>> there is an attachment...then the server dumps the line while Eudora
>> says "Converting attachment ..."  It does this within 15 seconds or so!
>> Yes, I can leave the terminal unattended in any other program so the
>> cause is not a watchdog timer on the serial lines on the server...
>> If I paste the same hqx file in a letter it works...
>
>About the only thing I can think of here is flow control.  If you're using
>hardware flow control, and your modem/cable is confused, it might interpret
>a "stop sending now" indication from the remote modem as a "I hung up the
>phone" indication.  As to why it only happens for BinHex, it may be that's
>the only thing your SMTP server can't keep up with.  Or, if echo is on, as
>Ray speculated, it may be your Mac trying to flow control the modem (to
>slow the echoes), and your modem misinterpreting that as "please hang up
>the phone now".
>
I'm not sure I agree with this. The fact that the message will go through
when it is pasted into a message seems to indicate that flow control
works fine except when a file transfer is involved.

I wonder if maybe the smtp server is trying to interpret the X-attachment
line in the header, deciding it can't, and throwing up its "hands" in
response. The best way to find out, of course, is to connect a comm
monitor/analyzer in line between the Mac and modem to view the data
being transferred. Second best would be to turn on the trace facility
that Ray has added in his C- script facility (You _ARE_ using the
SFU variant, right?). Viewing the actual communications data should
be very enlightening...

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From: amg8408@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Avijit  Moitra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Printing problem with Tosihiba P321 printer on Mac Plus
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:32:41 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I am trying to hook up a Toshiba P321 printer (dot matrix) to a mac plus.
I was using Imagewriter printing tool supplied by mac.  The printer is
printing some numbers in the "Best" or "Faster" mode when printing a text
file from MS WORD 5.0 and it prints only first 2 or 3 lines when printing
in the "Draft" mode.

Does any one know any solution to this problem.  Do I have to use a different
printer driver software ? DO you know one that will work ? An e-mail message
will be highly appreciated.  Thanking in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: UC525655@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Mark Eaton)
Subject: ctb tools?
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 17:33:07 CDT

Hi guys, really stupi question:
I downloaded Termy from the info-mac archives. Now, I have system seven,
with Comm ToolBox built in, but i dont have any tools, nor do I know
where to find them (i looked in the usually places with no luck...)
soooo, can somebody point me in the right direction...
 
I havent taken it (Termy) home and tried it yet, and the machine here at work
doesnt have a modem (laugh), so i may not even need any tools... <shrug>
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: SE/30 - ASANTE EN/SC ETHERNET PROB
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:15:37 -0500

 > Problem:  When I go to the network control panel to change from 
 > LocalTalk
 > to EtherTalk the machine hangs.  I have two machines with the same 
 > problem.
 > The strange thing is, I've got two others with identical setups that 
 > work
 > fine. 
 > 
 > What I have tried:
 > Removing all inits, other than the EN/SC init.
 > Using a different (working) EN/SC box.
 > Using a different (working) UTP line.
 > Re-installing the system.
 > Re-installing the Asante drivers.
 > Using a different hard drive.
 > Casting magic spells, etc.
 > 
 > All to no avail.
 > 
 > I have called Asante tech support and they have never heard of this 
 > problem
 > before.  If anybody reading this has, and knows a solution, I would 
 > really
 > appreciate hearing it.  I have been pulling my hair out trying to 
 > figure
 > out what is going on.  Why would it work fine on two of the 
 > machines, and
 > not on the other two? Were there two generations of SE/30s?  I am 
 > grasping
 > at straws now ...
 > 
 > 
 > Craig
We have a similar set-up and have no problems.  Are you sure that you are using
the same version of the EN/SC extension.
Did you try zapping the PRAM?


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar)
Subject: Internet Router not available
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:59:59 GMT

Okay, I'm running Cap60(pl100) on a Sun and have a Mac-][si with 
an Asante' ethernet card.  Cap60 is set up for Phase-2, but when
I try to select the Phase-2 icon in the networks control-panel
I get a

  You cannot choose a zone at this time
  because no internet router is available.

dialog.

I thought that since both of these things were on ethernet (10Base-T),
and were both Phase-2 that no router would be necessary...  

What have I missed ?

-Randy

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Subject: RE: Re: Mac BBS software.... what options are there ?
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:18:10 GMT

Nothing like first-hand experience with FirstClass (or any program) to pint
out the defficiencies.  Thanks for telling us - the sales brochures make it
sound like a dream come true!

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From: mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck 'Amnesia causes.... uh, I forget' McMath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Mac to PC file xfer woes
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:55:41 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: MSD

I want to do something which I believe should be pretty simple, but I'm not
having any luck, so I turn to the assorted net.wisdom.gods for an answer:

I've got a PC file on a Sun which I want to end up on a DOS formatted
diskette.  It has to be transferred thru a Mac.  Here is the sequence I
have tried:

1. FTP the file from the Sun to the Mac.
2. Use Apple File Exchange to 'translate' the file onto a DOS floppy -
uncheck all options except 'Default Translation' which can't be unchecked.
3. Test by inserting DOS floppy into DOS machine and examine the file (it's
an EXE so I try to execute it).

It doesn't work.  Perhaps Apple File Exchange is flipping bytes or
something like that?  I am pretty sure I just want a straight binary copy
of the file from my Mac to the DOS diskette.

Can anybody tell me how I can accomplish this task?  Solutions which don't
require me to buy anything more are of course preferred, but if I need to
run out and get something I can do that.

Thanks all!

chuck


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From: krauthei@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Stephen Krautheim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Question about SLIP line.
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:22:08 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I know this may be a FAQ, but I'll ask anyway.  If it is, just direct me to the
FAQ list.  If I am in the wrong group, KINDLY redirect me and I'll be glad to 
go.  

My question is this:
What exactly is a SLIP line and what does it do for me? 

I need a telecomm package, and would like to know if something like 
Smartcomm II and White Knight will do, or should I go ahead and get a package
like VersaTerm or PacerTerm?

Any input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Stephen 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Telnet and Macintosh LC
From: Rick Jansen <SSCPRICK@HASARA11.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 09:30:16 CET
Organization: SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam

This may have been asked and solved long ago,
but I haven't been attending these newsgroups
for some time.
 
We have a bunch of LC's with system 7 and now
the NCSA Telnet and tn3270 applications don't
work any more. The new versions complain about
not being able to initialize drivers etc, even
if I add a line 'hardware=atalk' to the config.tel
file.
 
What is wrong here? And what is MacTCP?
Sorry if this has been discussed long ago, but
I'd like the answer all the same :-)
 
Thanks!
-Rick Jansen
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From: Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re:  -Bad Support- (Being put on hold eternally)
Date: 8 Sep 1992 16:04:07 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: macdrf_43.dfci.harvard.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6D2490471044F9B@macdrf_43.dfci.harvard.edu>
X-XXDate: Tue, 8 Sep 92 17:11:48 GMT

In article <Bu9n0q.LKC@world.std.com> Joe Zobkiw, zobkiw@world.std.com
writes:
>There is no excuse for cruddy technical support but complaining about
>CE software keeping you on hold for 15 minutes is idiotic! Give me a
break!

I disagree with you entirely, Joe. I find keeping my ear attached to the
phone waiting for more than five minutes (or waiting for the speakerphone
to beep at me or something) entirely unreasonable. You are right in
saying that it is unexpectable for any software company to have a number
of representatives such that hold times could realistically be shortened.

BUT a good customer service provider should be able to:
1. Anticipate that a wait will be longer than, say, five minutes.
2. Inform the caller of this situation with a recording, give the caller
the option of holding or leaving a message in voice-mail.
3. Give the caller a call back.

Paco

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