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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:54:34 EDT
From:         Walter Keller <WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Nugent/Patriotism

As far as Nugent goes, I stopped caring about what he did after the Amboy
Dukes. After that he got a severe god/rock star complex and claimed to be
every bit as good as my man Jimi. Gee - wasn't there some mopes named Van
Halen who claimed the same thing ?? Oh well.

As for that song "don't tread on me" I've heard it on radio lately without
knowing who it was. It basically depressed me, as so much of the world does
these days, but then I said 'maybe it's a knock on that rambo shit. Now that
I've been clued in, I'm re-depressed.

And Leonard - shame on you to mention Jimi in the same sentence - when he
played the star-battered bangle he was reflecting the pain - both his and
of the war sufferers at the time, and indeed of any time - because of the
type of gruesome things people do to people under the aegis of patriotism.
Yes, he said on the Dick Cavett show that he thought it was beautiful, and
I'm sure that he did love his homeland - as it SHOULD be. A precursor to
Machine Gun. All of this imho.

Still on the subject of patriotics, did anyone notice that B.B. King played
at the republican convention? For Shame, B.B. !! If some of his fellow blues
contemporaries, white or black, don't give him shit for this I will be
seriously disappointed. Or maybe he's too big to have them old down home blues
anymore? Forgot where he came from and where poor people are likely to stay
from now on under republican rule ??

I know this is getting political, and I'm re-redepressing myself and all that,
and Carol would probably tell me to cheer up, pack up my bodhran club (double-
edged) and go out and get laid. Good advice, Carol on my mind.......later all


                                                                 ... walt ...
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:20:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Friday follies

Allright, well I finished my C program a bit earlier then expected so here's
a quick rundown of my summer concerts.

Lollapalooza - Lush rocked and The Jesus and Mary Chain were pretty good too.
  Other then that, I was a bit let down.  Oh yah, the sideshow was cool.

WHFeStivale - Totally cool.  $6.00 for a rocking bunch of bands.  Catherine
  Wheel really caught me off guard cuz I hadn't heard much of them and they
  where REALLY good.  I now have their CD Ferment which is equally as
  impressive.  They Might Be Giants, Ocean Blue, Wolfgang Press, and Charlttens
  U.K. were there as well.  There was a total of nine bands and they all
  rocked.

Indigo Girls / Mathew Sweet - Killer.  What more needs be said.

Ocean Blue / Connels - Not bad, not great.  I like Ocean Blue's music, but the
  Connels seemed a bit better in concert.

Femmes / B-52's - well, that's Sunday...  I might leave after the Femmes
  though.

And then, a few other local/jazz/raggae/etc. acts that I particularly remember.

Art Awareness Ensamble is a rocking raggae group, mostly play around Va. Dc...
Annex is a cool Richmond rock band.
Dave Mathews band is a really rocking Charlottesville band with a cool string
  section.

ah well, that's all for now.  it's off to linear algebra....  Oh yah,

cmv sed:

>Later Derek adds:
>
>>Which would make him different from Ruxpig, so maybe it's a bit of an unfair
>>comparison, eh?  And maybe some of the people on this list needed Rux a little
>>more then they thought just so they could booster their own egos by busting on
>>his.  Love and kisses....   :^0
>
>   If this *were* the case it would be somewhat unfair (see above).  Also,
>anyone who insists on showing you over and over in loud tones how stupid they
>can be is going to get some response.
>   Besides, this guy is such an easy target that I can't imagine anyone would
>get an ego-boost from it.

Yah, I wasn't here over the summer so I'll take yer word for it.  Just my
Friday pop psychology coming through.   That's what I get for going out with
a psych major.   8-}

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
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 and tired disguised oblivion
 is everything i do"
                                - The Cure
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:23:00 LCL
From:         Kevin Sonney <KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject: Re: other types of music
X-To:         gmgettie <ALLMUSIC@auvm.american.edu>

In his last message, Gary sez :

>Maybe a little more varied
>
>...like you all really care.

Can  *I* help  it  I left  the  country at  home?  And the  Jazz?
Sorry...

-=Kevin=-
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:06:00 GMT
From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: To those who can access 'news'...

Kevin asks a general question which may be of some interest to all, so I
reply to the list.

>Marco -
>
>Having  had much  experience  (now, anyway)  on  List Servers,  I
>noticed these newsgroups. How DOES one subscribe to them?
>
>-Kevin
> <<Mostly inexperienced in the FTP/InterNet world, but hanging in
> there>>

        It's not completely trivial. You need a program (well, there are seve-
ral) which is able to read/write so-called 'news'.
        Basically, it is an interface which allows you to access a server where
literally hundreds of thousands of 'articles' divided in 'groups' are stored.
        Several sites have this facility, but more are still reluctant because
this means heavy network traffic. And I mean HEAVY!
        Unfortunately, as far as I know, there is no way to subscribe through
a listserver or a mailing list or whatever, unless someone is so kind to for-
ward messages manually (or almost manually).
        In this sense, since everyone on the net has e-mail but still few
have news, lists are far more widespread and therefore attract more people.
A serious drawback of news is that should the volume become twice or three
times what it is, it would be a problem to handle it.
        Hope this helps -- it's just a hint about how news work, tho' I should
write a book to say it all...

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:30:42 CDT
From:         "Renato" <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: QUICK SOMEBODY CALL THE SDRAWKCAB
              1 Sep 1992 10:09:14 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:09:14 EDT Sonia Kovitz said:
>I have dropped down the well into my first ROTCOD ZAJJ tape and I want to say
>that this is incredibly HOT KOOL BAD STUPH!  Baboons, hyenas and raptors loose
>in the studio leaping over the funky keyboards, guitar, sax, with toppling
>genius IQs and enough rattling energy to make you wish you were right there
>jamming with them for the rest of your life: IT NEVER GETS BORING.  You keep
>leaning forward to hear what's coming around the next bend.  This music is
>Music.  No sub-category will do.  If you're in a funk ready to jump off Buckeye
>Stadium (that's what folks do here) this music will bring you back to earth and
>send you off to learn the bodhran, the kazoo and Sanskrit mantras on the side.
> Clouds travel over the wall, colors tip over sideways, light shows fall
>downstairs--this is life at the peak, a wild wandering pleasure of sound like a
>five year old set loose in the storage-room of the Philharmonic, B'rer Rabbit--
>oh PUH-LEAZE don't throw me into that jazz-juke-blooz joint...
>
>To all netters who question my incomprehensible reviewing style, I reply in the
>words of John Middleton Murry: "If you try to be precise you are bound to be
>metaphorical."   (yaaaa)
>
>To all netters  who haven't yet heard ROTCOD ZAJJ: yer like *nowheresville*
>
>Sonia
 Steak Queen,

             What are you ingesting anyway?  This is one of the way coolest rev
iews I've seen on the list (of course I'm a very green tadpole). OK, OK, you li
ked it.  No need for precision when over-the-top enthusiasm will do just fine.
If I send blank tapes, will you copy the brew for me?  Defintely need to partak
e of this manna -- pardon my mixed metaphors.  Now that you've teased our taste
 buds we'd like the real thing.

             Renato
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:07:40 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Quicksilver Messenger Service

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:46:00 EST John McIntyre said:
>
>Well, my viewpoint is the compilation has just about everything I would
>want from the Dino Valente era.  Those albums tended to have *one* song
>I would really like and the rest of the album would be filler.  So getting
>the compilation seems better than picking up the individual albums (if
>they ever do come out on CD) and programming just the hits.  I do wish
>the compilation had "Peace By Piece" from the Gary Duncan "keep the name
>alive" album.
>
>Besides... I already have _Happy Trails_ on CD. 8-)
>
>While I understand and appreciate your objection to edited versions,
>isn't the _Happy Trails_ "Who Do You Love" a collection of edits already,
>with different sections pulled from different concerts?
>

Yes, it certainly is. I asked JC about that once, and he said that the song,
as they played it in those days, tended to run on way longer than 25 minutes
anyway. Personally I think the editing is rather poor; you notice the 'cuts'
immediately, unlike the seamless job that Dan Healy and Bob Matthews did on
sides 1-3 of _Live/Dead_, f'rinstance.

And I'll agree about the later Quicksilver albums, too. You'd have one awesome
cut like "Cobra" (a Cipollina original, of course), and 40 minutes of
godawful spaced-out hippie gibberish, mixed "creatively" (which is to say,
idiotically).

Somebody once asked John where they came up with the name, was it just some
meaningless acid-fueled stream-of-consciousness thing, and he got very
serious and said, "No. The four of us who started the band are all Virgos.
Well, Virgos are mercury, and mercury is quicksilver, and Mercury was a
messenger and Virgo is a servant, so Quicksilver Messenger Service."

BTW, Dino Valenti (not his real name) was a Scorpio.  Not that I for a minute
believe in that astrology business. ;-)

David
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:30:10 CDT
From:         "The Truth (some assembly required)" <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      re: ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hidden desires

> I'll also say that I like most of Madonna's songs, especially from her first
> album before she got mega-famous.
>
>
> David
>

I just read your post and I have to say, I am more shocked at this moment than
any moment since I've joined this net.  After reading all your other posts, I
just cannot believe YOU like MADONNA!?

Please explain yourself--this is not a flame, just utter disbelief.

     Well, I'm not such a fan, but I really like "Get into the Groove"
     from the "Desperately Seeking Susan" Soundtrack. Of course, I
     admit that Ciccione Youth helped me see the brilliance in that
     song. I'm trying to learn it on acoustic guitar!

Sonia "goin up in smoke"

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
Live all your fantasies here with me
Let the music set you free
Touch my body, move in time
Now I know you're mine
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:40:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Robert Smith quote

Lifted without permission from the Sept 1992 Guitar Player.

Robert Smith was quoted as saying "I must confess that I don't
remember making a lot of _Pornography_.  We probably drank and
took more drugs than we should have - an interesting process,
but one that would kill me now."

I knew there was a reason _Pornography_ is my favorite Cure album. 8-)

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:57:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Satriani !?!?!?!

>I can't believe I'm asking this question, but have any of you heard Satriani's
>latest: (I think it's called) Extremity ... the Extremist?

The Extremist, and I've heard 'cuz I have it.

>I heard a cut from it which is getting a lot of airplay, Summer Song (??) and
>I actually LIKE it (I used to despise Satriani as nothing but note-clutter and
>show-off stuff); in fact, the more I listen the more I like it.  somebody told
>me
>there is also some mandolin on The Extremist, and some classical (?)...

Some, very some, very little, not much, etc....
There's one song which has some cool classical/acoustic stuff but (I think)
that's about it.

>How about a review?   what else is on it?  is the rest old Satriani or new?
>anybody know what happened to wake this guy up and bring some real music out of
>him (always an interesting question)?

Well, he doesn't sing on _The Extremist_ which is a BIG +.  But, I was a bit
dissapointed.  I liked some of the experimentation he did on _Flying In A Blue
Dream_ and the latest album seems a bit more back to basics.  Rather, away from
basics and back to lots o' noise cluttering up da music.  Ho hum.

I can give you more later when I'm at home with the piece in question at hand.

        -and no comments from Carol on that last line, please.  :-)

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:22:35 CDT
From:         Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      Primus (was re: Re: other types of music)
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From:           Mike Masuda <MASUDA%SJSUVM1.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:        re: Re: other types of music
Date:           Monday, August 31, 1992 at 11:30:41 am CDT

[...]
>You asked for it.
>Here's some CDs I brought to work:
[...]
>Primus: Frizzle Fry

what does this sound like?  i've heard some vaguely good things about primus
from people i don't know very well, which hasn't neccessarily made me want
to buy it (yet) but has certainly gotten me curious enough to ask.  i'm
novice to primus; how long have they been around?  how many releases do they
have, etc?

lee

*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*
       the looks are the smile is a lie
       the clock drags on the smoke is in your eyes
       you know the blame is someone's
       but you don't quite know who (in your mind)
       if it could only be different (in your heart)
       if only you could run away from it
       prisoner prisoner (if you could only see)
       choosing death for life
       prisoner prisoner (you are a prisoner)
       smiling executioner

       prisoner / king's x / king's x
*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:14:00 CDT
From:         S_YECK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Tangerine Dream

Sorry folks for the blank space -if there was one.  I hit control z instead of
control d to overstrike!  (oops).

Also, I lied!!! (by accident, that is).  For Hawkwind, I have _Space Rituals_
not _In Search of Space_ (oops). But, that's the one I love!!  I have a 3 CD
box set that's used and we can always get more!

For information:  Tangerine Dream's soundtrack "Sorcerer" has just been
released in England.  I got news from a friend in Las Vegas yesterday.  It
should be in the U.S. in the next 2-3 weeks.  This means there is a possibility
of "Legend" being released too.  (and even maybe "The Keep" on CD).  So, we'll
just wait and see.

As for lyrics from TD, I LOVE _Tyger_.  It is one of my all time favourites by
TD.  I love the vocals too. (of course, I enjoyed William Blake's poetry, so
that helped that).

That's all for now.  Ya'll have fun!
 _
Meshel
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:06:20 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject: Re: other types of music

On Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:30:41 PDT Mike Masuda said:
>
>The Specials: The Singles Collection
>

Tell me about this. What's on it? I haven't seen this one.

David
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:27:41 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Brian Eno's NERVE NET
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Got to hear a pre-release cassette. My first impression is, it's half way
between a really good techno/rave and _My Life in the Bush of Ghosts_: lots
of continuous grooves with instrumental, vocal, and amorphous sounds drifting
in and out of the mix, plus a few (humorous) guitar contributions by Fripp.
Eno himself plays mostly synths, some of which seem to be old analog boxes,
plus he sings a bit of the gospel harmony stuff he did on the _Wrong Way Up_
record, and picks up a few odd instruments here and there.
The track list is:
"Fractal Zoom" -- most overt dance cut
"Wire Shock"
"What Actually Happened?"
"Pierre in Mist"
"My Squelchy Life" -- lots of voices, some processed
"Decentre" -- Satie-like piano solo
"Juju Space Jazz" -- charming Zappaoid atonal melody
"The Roil, The Choke"
"Ali Click"
"Distributed Being"
"Web"

The bad news is, I don't think it sounds like an Eno record. I don't hear any
oblique strategies being worked out, I don't think the timbres are uniquely
wonderful, and I just don't think the songs are gonna hold my interest over
the long term. (Of course, I've been wrong about that before.) What might be
happening is, the paradigm shift is over: now everybody and his brother can
make records the way Eno does, so an Eno record no longer stands out.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:07:44 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      re: ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hi

>From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
>
>On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:34:01 EDT Sonia Kovitz said:
>>
>>I just read your post and I have to say, I am more shocked at this moment than
>>any moment since I've joined this net.  After reading all your other posts, I
>>just cannot believe YOU like MADONNA!?
>>
>>Please explain yourself--this is not a flame, just utter disbelief.
>>
>
>Boy, do I LOVE gettin' a reaction. :-D
>
>It's just the professional in me coming out, I suppose. Her stuff is
>well-produced and very calculated. She knows what she is doing and her
>producers have the knack for creating a sound that works with her limited
>voice. I've always admired good production. I would probably add that I
>APPRECIATE Madonna more than I ENJOY her. But I thought "Like A Virgin" was
>awful. But "True Blue" is OK. My favorite song of hers is still "Borderline",
>from 1984. And I really liked the movie "Desperately Seeking Susan", too.
>So, go figure. I don't listen to Madonna very much (my wife does) but generally
I really really really love the first Madonna record. I think its great!
I didn't like "like a virgin" either, although i do like "true blue".
i haven't been all that impressed with anything since then...its all too
posed, and stupid and relys more on the Personality of madonna rather
than the music and the professionalism. Its too slick.

And Desperatly Seeking Susan is the only film Madonna has been able
pull off, and i assume that is because she played herself in it, for
the most part.

And "holiday" is my fave. :-)

Jcs
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:30:41 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject: Re: other types of music
              31 Aug 1992 14:19:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

You asked for it.

Here's some CDs I brought to work:

Tuva-Voice of Asia
The Gyuto Monks of Tibet
The Specials: The Singles Collection
The Police: Synchronicity
Led Zeppelin: Song Remains the Same
Mr. Bungle
Pink Floyd: Dark Side
Primus: Frizzle Fry
Witches of Eastwick Soundtrack
Remmy Ongala: Songs for the Poor Man
Miles Davis: Porgy and Bess
Weather Report: 8:30

Mike Masuda.
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Subject: Re: mixing board
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:24:28 GMT
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Russ,

Yes there are lots of companies that make modular mixing boards.
But they are expensive.
Contact Leo's Pro Audio in Berkeley, CA, for more info on boards.
They are the most knowledgeable audio people in my neck of the woods.
(510) 652-1553

Good Luck.

Mike Masuda.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:47:55 EDT
From:         MICHELLE MAY <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: KrissKross
              3 Sep 1992 12:20:00 CST from <WILLIACG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>

You ENJOY Babyface??  How can you even understand what he's singing??
I have tried several times to figure out the words of that song he sings
from the "Boomerang" soundtrack.  I do like the song otherwise...you can say
what you want, the man whines to much for me .

As for the Brown/Houston marriage,  yes, it's a little unusual, but celebrities
have been know to do MUCH stranger things, like say, for instance, Woody Allen?
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:42:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Bob Seger and selling out

>From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
>Mr jackson doesn't have a monopoly on getting big bucks by "selling out'
>doesn't bob seger have a car commercial.

Yes, Bob Seger has licensed his song "Like a Rock" to Chevrolet, but
he was not selling out.  For years he rejected all commercial offers
exactly because he did not want to sell out.  Then some fan asked him
why he didn't do a car commercial to help out the ailing industry.
(Seger is a Michigan native, and the depressed car industry is
especially painful here in Michigan.)  So Seger agreed to the commercial
as an attempt to boost the hometown economy.  Yes, I am sure he did
accept money from Chevrolet, but doing that commercial was not selling
out.  Seger's selling out was back around "Night Moves" when he
realized Ballad Bob sold a lot more records than Rockin' Robert did. 8-(

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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