HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tsv@dbrus.Unify.Com (Tim Vannaman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: T.D.E. Analysis
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:54:27 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <1992Sep10.082719.15089@athena.cs.uga.edu> jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.153126.5170@gw.wmich.edu> x91fanjoy@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>	How about that Dark Empire?  The art seems to be good quality,
>>but there are some things that merit serious discussion, seeing as how
>>the FAQ lists TDE as canon, while other netters find it mildly blaspemous.
>
>I hate it!  I hate it!  I hate it!  Begone, poorly-written fan fiction!
>Begone!  Begone, Tom Veitch!  Begone, Cam Kennedy!  (I feel better.  I think
>I fall into the "mildly blasphemous" camp.)
>
>I think the art is pretty offensive, as well.  Especially when compared to
>the great covers!
>
>>1.  Han and Leia and Lando seem to have been written in a manner consistent
>>    with the Trilogy and Zahn's books.  This is cool.
>
>I'm amazed to see anybody claiming to find ANY characterization in this
>comic series.  The dialogue is about on the level of TJ Hooker or The Dukes
>of Hazzard episodes.  And why are there pages and pages at the end of each
>issue "explaining" the story in case we didn't get it?  I haven't seen
>simpler plotting outside of the New Zoo Revue!
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now there's a show I haven't heard of in a LONG LONG time!

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From: jsbrown@acs.harding.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Clone Wars
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:39:52 GMT
Reply-To: jsbrown@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University

Someone asked what the Clone Wars were about.  This is my theory on it.
It's possible that it started small and worked it's way up to Something
Huge.  By the time it acheived such a big scale, planets were running out of
manpower so they decided to manufactur their own instead of waiting for
natural replenishment.  This is just an idea and if somebody out there
knows what REALLY happened, I'd like to know too.

Jason
From: joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Yet another figure auction.
Date: 10 Sep 1992 12:47:52 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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I'm gonna try this auction thing.

Here's what I got:

C-3PO with removable limbs.

Luke Skywalker in battle poncho.

I have 4 of each of the above. All are on Power of the Force cards (that's
the one with the coin) and are in mint+ shape.  These figures were never
put on shelves, they came straight from the Kenner shipment boxes and
straight to me. No price tag (or price tag marks) and the little punch
out hole that the display rod fits through is still intact.  You can't get
them in better shape than this.

There is no minimum bid but I will only accept reasonable bids.
Please include shipping in your bids. The bidding will end exactly 1 week
from this posting.

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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: StarWars to Jedi & Episode 1
Date: 6 Sep 1992 20:51:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
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In a previous article, ESL108@psuvm.psu.edu (Eric Leven) says:

>Second: I have "From Star Wars to Jedi: The Making of a Saga." Its a bought
>copy, but this documentary was origianally broadcast on public television;
>so I'm assuming I could legally make copies for dedicated Star Wars fans. If
>you are interested, just drop me e-mail. All I will ask in return is a tape
>and postage fees (and recognition as THE renowned Star Wars expert =]

Please, people, just because it's aired on PBS doesn't mean it's legal
to copy.  We are generally a little looser about things that we tape off
the TV, but it's still really not legal.

But we've discussed a tengential topic to death already.

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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: Was Wedge a Spy?
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:16:33 GMT

>	Remember, Antilles died rather nastily at the hands of Vader during
>this encounter, so you have to ask, would Wedge be so dedicated to the 
>Empire as to betray, and have Vader kill, his father?
>
>	Personally, I believe the 'spy' idea is probably correct - but I
>doubt that Wedge was the man in question, IMHO. 


Here's another question:  Is the spy here the same one as Delta Source in
the Zahn novels?  That would make quite a spy-career, wouldn't it??
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From: dug@athena.cs.uga.edu (Douglas Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Was this scene in ROTJ, or not ?
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:26:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Sep8.142653.24684
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

>
>Yes, I deffinitley remember this scene.  However, it seems to happen quite
>often that movies are editted.  In Little Mermaid there was a scene where
>Ariel picks up here covered dish, sees fish, and makes a face.  This scene
>is NOT in the video version.
>
It's in *MY* video copy of the Little Mermaid, tho what this has to do with
Star Wars, I'll never know...


>Annoying, actually.
>
>
>>Dave
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From: JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Looking for a SW figure
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:07:34 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Does anybody out there have an Annikan Skywalker (or however you spell his name
) figure?  My best friend has been looking for it for a million years.  If
anyone has ANY info on where I can get one or who has one, PLEASE contact me
somehow.  I will be very grateful!

               Jill
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From: kreme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Not A Random Name)
Subject: Re: Was this scene in ROTJ, or not ?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 06:57:38 GMT

pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes:

>In <rock.715294268@rama>
>rock@rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jan-Oliver Rock) writes:

>>Hi to all Star Wars fans !
>> 
>> Here's my question : 
>> It's a scene in Jabba's palace, when Luke falls into the rancorpit.We thought
>> that  Luke jumps into the air , clinging himself to the iron bars.
>> Then some jawas appear and hit Luke on his hands with their guns.Luke
>> then drops back into the pit and so on....

Yes, I deffinitley remember this scene.  However, it seems to happen quite
often that movies are editted.  In Little Mermaid there was a scene where
Ariel picks up here covered dish, sees fish, and makes a face.  This scene
is NOT in the video version.

Annoying, actually.

>I seem to remember that scene in the movie version, but not in the video
>version. There are several scenes that seem to have not made it to video in
>all three videos....

I don't know that it was jawas, but otherwise I remember the scene.


>Dave
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:24:19 -0400 
From: Mark Sycip Frondoso <mf44+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: First Trilogy


	I just came from the Philippines about a month back.  Before I came, I
even watched the whole Star Wars trilogy from beginning to end on laser
disc.

	When I got here, two different people told me that George Lucas was
working on the first of the three trilogies.  Remember how Star Wars was
supposed to the be second one?  I thought to myself, if George Lucas was
doing this, wouldn't Newsweek, Time, and other major publications print
this good news considering Star Wars is among the greatest movies to be
made?

	Can someone please confirm this.


					Mark
From: julie@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars big obvious blooper!!!!
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:42:32 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

And incidentally, in the script at that point Luke says... NOTHING!  Big
help eh?


It's not that I like the Empire.  
I hate it, but there's nothing 				Jules
I can do about it right now! 
	- Luke Skywalker.
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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: The Star Wars That might have Been (3/3(?))
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 22:33:29 GMT

Interesting stuff...does anyone know if "Skywalking" is still in
print?  Or should I start haunting the used bookstores?


-- 
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From: haro@carina.unm.edu (    KANEDA)
Subject: Re: Darth Vader's breathing
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 04:00:00 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: Volcano

In article <1992Aug28.091752.2141@pyra.co.uk> hugh@pyra.co.uk writes:
>Folks,
>
>Like  Gretchen,  I  would  like to know the  official  reason  for  Vader's
>breathing  difficulties.   I  have heard conflicting reports  from  various
>people  that  a)  he  fell into a volcano, and b) he flew too  close  to  a
>supernova.
>
>Can anyone please shed some light on this ?
>
>I am assuming here that he isn't just plain asthmatic !
>
>All the best everyone,
>
>Hugh.
>-----
>
HE'S GOT ASTHMA, OR HE USED TO SMOKE TO MUCH.


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From: joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: What happened to SW?
Date: 10 Sep 1992 23:14:31 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


As of last April, Lucasfilm has pulled Star Wars and Empire from *RENTAL*
distribution. Studios still have them. Ir theater gets its prints
from rental places then your outta luck. If you can get them straight from
the studios.....:) well then you aint outta luck. 
I'm a projectionist at school and...well...the whole Trilogy is showing
this Sunday. On 35mm yes. We get some of our prints from the studios.

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From: myleslee@next14pg2.wam.umd.edu (Alan Brady Ward)
Subject: Re: Dark Force Rising
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:23:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.213358.17992@newshost.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu  
(The Rink) writes:
> Well, I finished Dark Force Rising a while ago, and missed the  
discussion of
> the book when it came out (since I was on summer vacation).  So I'm
> interested in hearing what people thought of the book.  Personally, I  
think
> it was a slight step down from Heir To the Empire.  But the way things  
are
> progressing, the grand finale looks very much more promising than it did
> before.  I guess the number one guess for the Delta Source is Winter, so  
I've
> heard, but consider this:  she is Alderaanian.  The Empire blew up her  
home
> planet -- why would she become a spy for the Empire??  Then again, can  
we
> believe what we are told is true?  Second, Thrawn said, in Heir To the
> Empire, that Joruus C'baoth was a CLONE of Jorus C'baoth.  As I recall,  
Luke
> does not yet know this (or anyone else except Thrawn and Pellaeon, for  
that
> matter).  

Well Zahn will definitely be doing something with the issue of clones  
because the last stormtroopers the heroes dealt with were identified as  
such.
	They made mention of the fact that Thrawn may have his fleet  
manned alot faster than they thought. 
	Should be interesting to see if we get any data filled in on those  
mysterious Clone Wars in the third book.

Al
From: beh10@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: canon
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:37:37 GMT
Reply-To: beh10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep8.172943.19304@nmsu.edu> dleland@dante.nmsu.edu (LELAND) writes:

>I think anything that develops into a seperate genre of its own, such as
>Star Wars, Star Trek, the legends of King Arthur, etc., is that they DO NOT
                           -----------------------                ----------
>by definition, have a canon. There are some fixed traditions, certain things
 ---------------------------
>that happened in the stories, but they are flexible, subject to change. A



Yeah, yeah, yeah --- how about Luke, Ben, Threepio and Artoo galloping
through the desert towards Mos Eisley, banging coconuts together...!

Er, on second thought...

     8^)


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Subject: Re: Don't panic! Return of the Jedi script
From: lone@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (John Hale)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 09:27:53 EDT
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:

> I canceled the post for the Return of the Jedi script due to hate mail
> received from several system operators. Evidently posting large files
> to a newsgroup is not socially acceptable behavior.
....Would it be possible to Email it out? I'd be interested. I can also 
ftp, although I have to do it through VMS which is a MASSIVE pain in the 
butt. Also, a hearty netland-style pat on the back is in order for you. 
Congrats on completion of such an important and difficult project
                                                -Lone Wolf
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From: tapestry@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Petree)
Subject: Re: What Happened to Star Wars?
Keywords: SW--no longer available
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:19:46 GMT


I think that some people misunderstood my previous post on the
subject.  I got a few email responses saying that people had
rented/purchased the saga recently.

What I said was that Lucasfilm no longer rents the feature out for
public viewing (ie. no theater may show it publicly for admission
because the reels are no longer rented.)

I hope this clears up a few things.
I apologize for the confusion.

Brian

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 11:42:26 -0400 
From: Paul Joseph Mitchell <pm3z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Info about Return of the Jedi script

	First, I think Mr. Martin deserves a big thank-you from all of us out
here for his efforts to type in the ROTJ script and make it available o
all of us.  Thanks, Greg!
	Secondly, Greg wrote about the Star Wars and TSEB scripts that were
previously posted to the net.  If anyone out there has a copy of these
scripts (with the extra scenes!), I'd love to get a copy of them (send
them through e-mail directly to me to avoid the "hate mail" that Greg
got for posting the ROTJ script).
	Thanks in advance!
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Subject: Re: The Emperor Falling Down (Getting!) the Shaft
From: jsbrown@acs.harding.edu
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:33:03 -0500
Reply-To: jsbrown@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University

In article <1992Sep4.230722.27802@informix.com>, dranney@mls-9.informix (David Ranney) writes:
>>In article <wHl-tR#@engin.umich.edu> yyrkoon@lucky.engin.umich.edu (Jeffrey Jon Kabbe ) writes:
>> [stuff deleted] 
>> >
>>>Now, assuming that Darth used the force to survive that, then why couldn't the
>>>Emporer, much more powerful in the ways of the force than Vader, stop himself
>>                                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>from falling down the shaft of the Death Star. 
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
>My pet theory on this is that perhaps levitation/flight is an attribute of the
>good side of the force, not the dark side.  You notice we never saw Obi-Wan 
>shooting Darth with lightning bolts.  We never saw Yoda make a little pinching
>gesture and make Luke gag.
>
No, we never saw Yoda do it.  Luke did it in the beginning of ROTJ when he
entered Jabba's palace.  Remember when the Gammorean(sp) guards tried to stop
him, and he waved his hand and they both backed away reaching for their throats
and gagging.  Just a thought.


Jason

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From: dragon@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Korth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Grand Admirals
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:42:59 GMT
Organization: Bradley University

I was watching SW:ANH the other day, and I noticed something
interesting.  We all know that the only officers in the Imperial
military to wear white are the Grand Admirals, right?  Well, when
Tarkin and Vader enter the conference room aboard the Death Star, they
walk along the side of the table... and as the camera pans to keep up
with them, you get to see two men in white uniforms...
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From: alumni106@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Subject: Re: The Jedi Storm (story introduction)
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:59:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.121813.851@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, z_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:

> 	If this is correct (which is possible, considering how screwed up the
> copyright laws are), then I think its getting to be time to demand Congress to
> change the law. Or better yet, shoot them all :-)

That reminds me of a quote I saw in the VAX's "cookie" program once:

"If 'pro' is the opposite of 'con', then what's the opposite of 'progress'?"

Sure, it may be screwed up, but there ARE governments MORE screwed up 
(Canada, for example, starring Mr. steroid chin himself). I think the 
laws regarding trademarks and copyrights are fine the way they are now. 
Since you disagree, would you rather have Star Wars stories running 
rampant, the same quality of that "Jedi Storm" thing, or even WORSE? Or 
would you rather have people actually BEG and PLEAD to George Lucas to 
get the rights to make a story, and have George check and recheck 
EVERYTHING in the story to make sure it all jives with HIS vision of 
Star Wars (sounds good to me, considering he created it)? The copyright 
laws are as strict as they are for a reason. If you think THAT'S 
ridiculous, tho', here's one that REALLY takes the cake: according to 
Canadian law, people can get 1 day in jail for merely spitting on the 
sidewalk. Matta ne.

                                                       -=]> Max <[=-

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From: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Subject: Re: RotJ script
Originator: gamg6900@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:32:41 GMT

ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:

>			The script and the work put into it are much
>appreciated... however, speaking on behalf of those who receive this as part of
>their mail (I don't), *please* send something like that only to individuals, or
>put it at an FTP site, or warn people a day in advance before sending if the
>above is too much work. To some people, like myself, it's interesting reading.
>To others, it's disk quota space that has just become overloaded. 
>			And yes, I know it's very easy to delete. Still. It's a
>bit of a pain if it's unexpected. =)
>			Nice work.
> 

Sorry. I don't know details of how this network stuff actually works.
Please post a procedure people should use for throwing large files onto
the newsgroup.
					Greg Martin
					g-martin1@uiuc.edu
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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Re: What Happened to Star Wars?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:10:45 GMT
Keywords: SW--no longer available

In article <tapestry.716177986@camelot> tapestry@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Petree) writes:
>
>I think that some people misunderstood my previous post on the
>subject.  I got a few email responses saying that people had
>rented/purchased the saga recently.
>
>What I said was that Lucasfilm no longer rents the feature out for
>public viewing (ie. no theater may show it publicly for admission
>because the reels are no longer rented.)

This jibes with the last showing of the trilogy in Austin last year, which 
was billed as the "last ever showing of the Star Wars movies", or words to
that effect.  

The Walrus


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