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From: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Favorite Drum Machines
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:29:22 GMT
Reply-To: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Organization: Bell Atlantic Business Systems Service Branford, Ct.

In article <1992Aug20.163954.6229@u.washington.edu> freewill@carson.u.washington.edu (William Kaufman) writes:
>
>
>I have been interested in the Yamaha RY-30 for a while now. It appears
>to have similar functions to the Roland R-8, but is a little cheaper.
>The music store has one guy working there that can really play it like
>a regular drum kit. Is anyone else "playing the pads" to work on more

Yes, the pads work well, and it is easy to edit individual hits to get
the sound you want.


>live-sounding drum patterns? Also, I was told it can load sounds from 
>the SY series wave cards, but what are the limitations? You can at

Yes you can load waves from the SY cards, you get some neat sounds that
way (bass, clav, brass, ...). There are also special wavecards for it -
I have the Dance&Soul, House&Rap, Weckel and FX. All are good.

>least play 12 bass notes (1 per pad). It's also supposed to have the
>dynamic playback articulation like the Alesis boxes. In any case, as a 
>controller it seems to lend itself to more rhythmic playing than a key-
>board, due to the spacing between the pads. (Editor's note: the SR-16 
>pads are useless.) Anyone else having interesting experiences with the 
>newer drum machines?      freewill


I have an SR16, Oberheim DX and RY30, as well as a couple of rack mount
drums (D4, R8m and Procussion). I don't really use the SR16 much any
more, the DX is used mostly as a module. I use the RY30 to bang out a
quick groove to jam on, as well as to provide the basic track ideas for
computer sequenced work. I also use it on more dance oriented material -
why, because of the mod-wheel! This lets you change pitch, pan, filter,
voice balance and decay of the sounds. Adds a good deal of spice.

The 1 drawback of the RY30 is the clock resolution - not as fine as you
might like for some music styles. There is a swing function which helps
loosen things up. The user interface is ok, there are a couple of functions
which are awkward, but you can create macros for often used commands (I
have not tried this yet)

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Anyone out there with an R-8,R-8M Drum machine?
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:21:04 GMT

I have an R8M. Sounds are gorgeously clean and long. The cards are
excellent and enhance its versatility. I use the Roland PAD 5 to
play it and the R8M responds very quickly.

It is a real *bitch* to program though ! They had room to add a 
few more buttons ! I just do not understand why they couldn't put
a dedicated 'enter' button instead of having the right cursor
double as enter. In some screens the up down arrows become cursor
keys so that if you want to cursor right and hit the 'right cursor/enter'
it takes it as 'enter'. Aaaarrggghhh !!!!!!!!!

If your mind has been warped by using a U110/U220/U20 then you might
be right at home though since the layout is the same.

The R8 will accept 3 ROM + 1 RAM card as oppossed to the R8 which
takes one of each so if you can get the R8M. I've seen a few R8s
used so try to avoid buying new ...


good luck !


Shiv
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:15:33 CST
From:         WEBERLOI@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA
Subject:      Re: Any BBS experts out there??
              25 Jul 1992 01:38:00 EDT from <CSHEW@SNYESCVA.BITNET>

Call Randy Coghill in Regina, Saskatchewan, CANADA. He has done it for years!
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Via: uk.ac.leeds.ai; Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:31:49 +0100
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:24:22 BST
From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: New specs of Atari Falcon (500 Pounds)
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

>From: David Vessell <dave@EDU.BRADLEY.BRADLEY>
>Subject:      Re: New specs of Atari Falcon (500 Pounds)
>
>jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:
>
>>IF 500 Pound price == $500-$700 price in America, Atari Falcon will
>>be greatest micro ever made!!  With PC and Mac emulators it will
>
>Nope.  #500 is more like $900-1000 actually, but still damn impressive if
>Atari can get it out.
>

I think David is working on a "perfect world" assumption here, i.e. that the
UK and the US price will be equivalent. Not so, most things are priced
somewhere in the stratosphere here, try a US$1800 Wardorf Microwave (made
in Germany - what happened to that EEC thingy that people talk about?) etc
etc etc. My money is on Jeff's estimate being far more realistic.

Cheers, (or maybe not "Cheers")

Ross-c
From: aa588@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eddie Anthony)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Ensoniq Mirage for sale
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:54:59 GMT
Reply-To: aa588@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eddie Anthony)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


Selling my Ensoniq MIrage sampling keyboard. One of the original models,
and was the 4th one ever in the city of Cleveland. Still works fine but
I am upgrading to an EPS. Disk library available for copying but I will
still have a Mirage module in my rack and need to keep selected disks.
Brass, strings, pianos, sound effects.....
 
Asking $400.
 
Please leave e-mail if interested.
 
My band is leaving town for a week starting 8-26, so I won't be able to
do anything with this until we return about 9-4.

-- 
Eddie Anthony....eddie.anthony@akp.wariat.org -or- eddie@wariat.org
I saw a homeless guy yesterday with a dog. What does that look like
from the dog's point of view? "Hey, master, when are we going home?
This has to be the longest walk in the history of walks here...."
From: pauls@trsvax.tandy.com
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:35 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: multimedia question
Message-ID: <27300047@trsvax>
Nf-ID: #R:toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM:602:trsvax:27300047:000:609
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!pauls    Aug 21 12:35:00 1992


For a "true" MPC machine (as opposed to a 'multimedia machine') it MUST
support the MPC MIDI map AND GMM. Confusing??....

see, the GMM is thought of as being 128 pre-defined patches and 40-odd
drums sounds. ALSO, it is drums on MIDI channel 10 ONLY.

MPC is weird. It specifies the GMM patches BUT NOT THE MAPPING. MPC has
"base" mode and "extended" mode. This has NOTHING to do with GMM.

Base is channels 13-16, drums on 16.
Extended is 1-10, drums on 10.

Microsoft blows off ch 11 and 12. Go figure.

IMHO, the SCC-1 or SCC55 are the best value for GMM. They are now the
"default" sound system for GMM.


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: velhart@epas.utoronto.ca (Nicholas Velharticky)
Subject: D-20/D-110/D-5 questions.
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Distribution: all
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:45:56 GMT

Here's my situation:

     1)  I have to sell my Roland D-20 synth.

     2)  I want to store the sounds, sequences, and drum patterns
         that I have made on it in my computer via a MIDI sysex dump.

     3)  I own Cakewalk Pro 4.0 software.

     4)  I am thinking about buying a used Roland D-5 or D-110 to
         replace the D-20; I know that they have compatible synth
         engines.


Here are my questions:

     1)  Is the audio quality of the D-5 and the D-110 the same as
         that of the D-20 (i.e., is the bit resolution of the samples
         exactly the same, is the S/N ratio exactly the same)?
         I remember playing a D-10 some time ago which sounded noisier
         to me than my D-20, although the electronics in both of them
         were supposed to be the same.  I think the difference could have
         due to:  a) my imagination, b) different ROM versions, c) some
         other slight difference in the electronics, or d) I don't know
         what.  If someone out there knows which of these it is, please
         tell me.

     2)  Will my idea work, about dumping my sequences/sounds/drum
         patterns to Cakewalk and reloading them to the D-5/D-110?
         I know that Cakewalk has a primitive sysex dump feature which
         is primarily for use with sequencing, but I read in the
         manual that Cakewalk has problems with synths that use a
         handshaking protocol for their sysex dumps.  Which protocol(s)
         does the D-20 use?

     3)  Is the D-110 programmable from the front panel, or do you
         need a separate programmer to modify the internal tones?

Thanks in advance.

--
                          |        "Not only do I deny the allegation,
Nick Velharticky          |         but I also deny the allegator."
velhart@epas.utoronto.ca  |             -- The Rev. Jesse Jackson
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: gumphrey@IASTATE.EDU (Jammer of Axigally)
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Multisound
Keywords: Price
Reply-To: gumphrey@IASTATE.EDU (Jammer of Axigally)
Organization: Iowa State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:53:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.202023.13199@zip.eecs.umich.edu>,
tazzzzz@sparky.eecs.umich.edu (Kevin Dangoor) writes:
> I agree that FM synthesis cannot be totally deemed "icky". But there is not
> much comparison between an 8 operator DX7 and the 2 operator FM synthesis
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> found in the Adlib and Soundblaster cards. I am certain that part of the
reason
> that the music in PC games seems to sound the same is the restrictiveness of
> 2 operators. Considering that sample playback (at one level or another) is
> already built into these cards, it would not be too surprising to find
> more companies moving to wave tables.

First off, I haven't been following this thread at all, but I DID end up
reading this article and thought I'd mention that the DX7 has 6 operator 
synthesis, not 8.  And yes, there is a WORLD of difference between the highly
limited 2 operator FM synthesis on the Soundblaster, and an actual FM
synthesizer.  FM is practically useless with less than 4 operators!  Especially
when they are all sine waves!  Modern FM synths (by Yamaha of course), have
multiple waveforms per operator (8 in the DX11, TX81Z, 16 in the SY77, SY99),
have 6 operators (well the DX11 and TX81Z have only 4 operators).  The Sound-
blaster (I use this card as an example, because that's all I've heard in my 
limited experience) is NOT EVEN HALF the power of the Yamaha DX100, their 
lowest model programmable FM synth!

				-- Jammer --
From: gino@pollux.usc.edu (Gino Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Microwave info wanted
Date: 19 Aug 1992 14:10:05 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

Picked up a used micro-wave today (no more waiting for popcorn)...  
I read from somewhere that it would soon be possible to load 
wavetables into the beast (software updates).  Does anyone have 
any info on this?  I'm hoping I can transfer wavetables which are 
sampled from an EMAX II and edited on an Amiga.  Is this possible?  
Is there an archive of patches around?  

gino
-----------------------------------
Gino Cheng
From: mir@opera.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Opinions on Yamaha Clavinova CLP-550 (+ aftertouch question)
Keywords: electric, piano
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:05:01 GMT
Reply-To: mir@opera.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Organization: Chorus systemes, Saint Quentin en Yvelines, France

In article <1992Aug7.074406.4886@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, cyamamot@marconi.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Cliff Yamamoto) writes:

%% I'm about to buy a used CLP-550, but before I do, I'd like to see if
%% anyone had anything good (or bad especially) to say about it.  It seems
%% the CLP-550 is still being sold.  Has Yamaha come out with a successor yet?
%% Any comments on the weighted feel, the features, sound, etc.

The current family of Yamaha digital pianos with no accompaniments
is composed of CLP-260, 360, 560 and 760. They have replaced the
x50 family since the beginning of 1991 at least. I have quite a lot
of documentation from Yamaha, and in one of the fliers they relate
their "technological progresses". If I remember well, the keyboard
hasn't changed since several years. The principal innovation in the
x60 family was the introduction of the AWM2 technology, ie. 16-bit
sampling vs. 12-bit only in AWM. The innovations concerning active
speakers came with the previous generation. Their first digital
pianos had only 1 sample per octave (CLP-50?), now they have 1 or
2 (CLP-760) samples per note. I would buy a CLP-560 last year, but
I couldn't accept the keyboard feel. A combination of CLP-560
sounds and case with the Roland FP-8's keyboard would be fine.

-- 
Adam Mirowski,  mir@chorus.fr (FRANCE),  tel. +33 (1) 30-64-82-00 or 74
Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
From: jesper@elixir.e.kth.se (Jesper Karlsson)
Subject: Best price in N.Y for Kurzweil 2000?
Organization: School of EE, Royal Institute of Technolgy, Sweden
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 10:57:49 GMT

Hi!
I got a friend who has promised me to buy a Kurzweil 2000 when he visits
New York, but as he hasn't got the time to go around and look for the best
price I would like to hear from others what deal's they've got.
I will summon my answers to the net if I get any.

BTW, is there anyone who can tell me how to get a VAT refund when buying 
equipment i NY and then going home (to Sweden)?

Thanks! 

/Jesper

jesper@elixir.e.kth.se
From: dan@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Dan Bennett)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:13:34 GMT
Subject: Re: JD800 has migraine (or something).
Organization: HP Response Centre, Berkshire, England.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

Hi,

MIDI controller data when recording anything, eh? Are you sure it's
not aftertouch you're seeing?

Regards,
Dan Bennett.
No signature file because I've never asked anyone how to set one up.
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:33:40 IST
From: Michael Cohen <P85016@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject:    MPP files

Does anyone have an idea
where can I find examples of MPP files (to play with a midi card on a pc)?

Thanks
Michael Cohen                  Bitnet:   P85016@BARILVM
Computers center               Internet: P85016@VM.BIU.AC.IL
Bar Ilan University
Ramat Gan
Israel
From: tranth@frith.msu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Help on Synth. buy!
Date: 23 Aug 92 04:47:11 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: tranth@frith.egr.msu.edu


Hey you guys out there, I hope you don't mind me posting a question that had
probably been answered a few times before.


I have a Weighted full size 88 keys Yamaha Keyboard and I am looking for a
synth.   I am pretty much been sold on the Korg O1/W-FD.  

The guys from the local music store seems honest and quite knowledgable. 
The following are the Pluses  on the keyboard:

1: ease of use
2: lots of raw sounds
3: cheaper than other vendors  for the same class keyboard (~2,200.00)

I was debating between the rack-mount box because I already have a fullsize
, weighted controller and a PC that I plan to buy software for sequencing.
However the nice thing about the O1/W-FD is that I can carry it anywhere and
take the music with me. (for a different of about ~300.00.)

Any of you guys out there had been throught similar situation. 
Or if you just want to give me some advices.

Please help me out.  Thanks in advance!!!


- Rex. -
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:13709 rec.music.makers:9078
From: tomh@tellabs.com (Tom Huber)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers
Subject: Mixer/Power Amp/Speaker Recommendations
Keywords: mixer amp speaker rack
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:47:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: tellab5.1992Aug19.174706.19385
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.

Hello everyone,

My trusty KB-100 combo amp has been acting up lately, and I'm thinking of
replacing it with some sort of rack-mounted mixer and power amp, and a
speaker cabinet.  The system will be used extensively for live work, but will
also be used for some recording.  I'm looking for the following features:

The mixer should be stereo, with at least 4 inputs and at least one effect loop.
A stereo FX loop would be nice, as would stereo INs.  Input level monitors of
some sort would be nice, as would trim pots (or the equivalent).  EQ would
also be nice, but is less important than the other stuff.  Since my primary
application is live work, it doesn't have to be ultra-quiet, but it should be
reasonably quiet.  Ideally, it fits in a 1 or 2 space rack unit.

The power amp should be 100W or more, and should fit in 1 or 2 rack spaces.
Stereo would be nice to have. 

The speaker cabinet should be at least bi-ampable, and should be small enough
to transport on a regular basis.  It will be used primarily for my monitor,
although it needs to be able to fill the stage so the other members of the
band can hear me. 

So, what is the collective wisdom of the net concerning the availabilty of
these items?  Does anything exist that will meet my needs, yet be affordable?

Thanks in advance,

Tom

--
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tomh@tellabs.com    |        |   My opinions are, by definition, my own. 
Tom Huber           |   GO   |      
Tellabs             | IRISH! |   You can't fool all the people all the time,
Lisle, IL           |        |   but if you succeed once, it lasts four years.
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From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: New MIDI message
Date: 22 Aug 92 01:53:48 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:

> aedwards@JUPITER.CSD.UNB.CA (Alan Edwards) writes:
> 
> > The drummer and I were discussing the need for a colossal sound at the end
> > of a piece, as well as MIDI things in general.
> > We decided that a new MIDI message was needed:  All Notes On
> 
> Well I agree, there's definately a need for this kind of thing.  But "All
> Notes On" doesn't really go far enough.  What we need, instead, is a new
> designated controller called "Mayhem Mode."  It would be a switch-type
> message, like a pedal.  When switched to 126 (on), it would not only turn on
> as many notes as the recieving synth was capable of, it would open all
> filters, set MIDI volumes to full, crank all onboard effects to maximum
> reverb, and basically raise all-around digital hell.
> 
> Sending the controller at 0 (off) would abruptly knock everything back to
> normal (or wherever it was before).
> 
 
Hmmmm.  YOu may have just described a MIDI Equivalent of our band 
Deathlehem.  (For a few moments, anyways, until we got board of that 
'patch').
 
 ------------------------------------------------
 \ FIVE-Aural \Their current stuff is too digi- \
 \ Research   \tized,quantized and just plain   \
 \ Foundation \sterile, compared to that analog \
 -------\ organicness from earlier albums - SHIV\
        -----------------------------------------


;--- (A.R.F.) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
;E-mail: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
From: xxrich@alliant1.lerc.nasa.gov (Rich Rinehart)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.compose
Subject: Help in Creating FINALE crescendos
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:59:23 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center

I am working with a score that has many different size cresecendo's in it.  I
have just recently figured out how to make the hairpins a metatool so that they
ALL don't resize everytime I resize one of them (!! sound familiar??).
Anyways, now I want to make them executable (and the fun is just really
beginning).  How the heck does this work??   Is the executable shape assignable
or will I change one only to screw-up another?   Does it know the start and
stop velocities based on the dynamic markings already in the score, or
will I have to figure that out to (and the velocity increment over time, for
each configuration of a hairpin(?)).

Any tips would be appreciated!
-rich

-- 
Rich Rinehart (xxrich@alliant1.lerc.nasa.gov) |     
NASA Lewis Research Center |    "Life if one big editing session" -rr
Cleveland, OH              | "Technology changes everthing...even our dreams"
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:31:37 CST
From:         Rod Lemcke <WEBERLOI@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Alesis D4: Possible to use Triggerinputs as MIDI-Triggers ?
              17 Aug 1992 11:33:39 GMT from <broe@DFV.RWTH-AACHEN.DE>

If you are looking for a drum module with quite extensive midi and over 500+
sounds, then DO get a D4.  You can trigger it via pads and midi simutaneously.
You can also use trigger ins to trigger midi notes and events.  Check it out, I
 feel very confident that you would be quite satisfied with it!!!





              Good Luck...
                           Rod L.
From: Darla@cup.portal.com (Kuby - Downs)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: What module for midi AND PC games?
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 17:10:49 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Hi!

=>Get the new Gravis ULTRASOUND board. It is just now coming 
=>out. It has general MIDI sounds via Ensoniq 16+ sample 
=>library, and has a soundblaster emulation mode that as far 
=>as I can tell works perfectly (BUT.. you should use DOS 5 
=>and load the driver into high memory).

Yes, I heard the driver needed to make this card Sound 
Blaster compatable required an extremely large amount of 
memory. How big is it? If you're using a 286, it will be
impossible to load it high, yes?

                             Darla
From: pzl@remulak (Pete Lega)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Mo' midi forsale
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:08:11 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Jambox+4 Midi interface. 4IN/4OUT, 2 speeds, read/write/jan sync SMPTE. 
w/ Mac DA Disk utility. $99.

Roland Midi Thru. 1IN/4OUT. (passive) $40

Sound Designer II Sample Editing Software. W/disks and manuals. $99

Dan wk. (908)519-6144
    hm. (908)281-7150

call dan, don't write me.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: lawrence.lougheed@rose.com (lawrence lougheed)
Subject: Re: New specs of Atar
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 12:56:02 GMT
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Date Entered: 08-15-92 06:33
dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:

>Of course, it's moot here, because there isn't an Atari dealer within
>300 miles of here 'cuz they treat their U.S. dealers (and especially
>dealers in the Midwest) so shitty that no one wants to carry the damn
>things anyway.

It's been the same in Canada.  One by by one the southern Ontario
dealers dropped from sight.  There are _very_ few left.

Lawrence Lougheed
lawrence.lougheed@rose.com
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:14:43 CDT
From:         mitch wood <mitch@BANANA.DIS.FEDEX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Need Recommendations on Adding Polyphony
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@american.edu
              92 8:04 pm

	John,

	Do you still have the PG-200 for sale? I tried everyday for a
	week to call you, but you never returned my calls. I left
	many messages on your answering machine...

	Mitch Wood
	mitch@banana.dis.fedex.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.dsp,comp.sys.hp