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From: ED.KWASNIEWSKI@f240.n353.z1.fidonet.org (ED KWASNIEWSKI)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Late work
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 23:08:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:353/240 - The Polish Connecti, Westbank BC

On 09-01-92 Carol Hooper wrote to All... 
 
CH>  Ok everyone....How do you handle late work?  Really need this advice. 
 
What ever you decide make sure that the students know how you will deal 
with the situation and be consistent.  Also ensure the students know 
that they can 'negotiate' with you ... this does NOT mean that you will 
accept any excuse but rather if they come to you beforehand there is the 
possibility of some leniency and extension. 
 
Two methods that do work (for different teachers): 


... No lates are allowed!   A few of our teachers use this method ... 
    one in particular has very little work handed in late AND is one of 
    the most popular teachers on staff. 
... Minus x% (or one grade) per day late.  This is most popular with 
    the students.  They appreciate the opportunity of having the extra 
    evening to finish things off :)  Surprisingly as the year progresses 
    I have less and less late work! 
 
... OFFLINE 1.41 


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From: Libby.Burchard@f232.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Libby Burchard)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: math x 4
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 18:51:40 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/232 - LES-COM-net, Golden CO

Hi,

Interested to see how others might deal with my situation.  I have 12 students
in 4 different grades in the same room at the same time all day.

Yes, math is definitely one of their subjects.  Grades are:  5th, 6th, 7th and
 8th.  Challenging setup.  Any suggestions appreciated, besides finding a new
job, of course.
Thank you,\
Libby Burchard


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From: lwmason@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (LaRay W. Mason)
Subject: Re: Cooperative Learning
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 01:12:04 GMT

Hi Carol,

I have worked with Cooperative Learning for 6 years now (grades
K-8).  My biggest challenge was in 8th grade math.  The results
were tremendous and worth every bit of effort!  Have you read
any of the works by the Johnsons, Slavin or Kagan?  I would
suggest that you begin with some basic CL works and then move
on into CL and Math.  This is a perfect time of the year to
begin your readings and begin working with developing the
social skills necessary for the 7-8th graders.  Never assume
that they know any!!!!

After working through some basics--check out Neil Davidson's
Cooperative Learning and Math--it's a compilation of articles,
studies on the subject.  There is an entire magazine that was
devoted to CL and Math--available from:
	COOPERATIVE LEARNING MAGAZINE
	Box 1582	
	Santa Cruz, CA  95061-1582
Ask for info.--Vol. 10, no. 3--it reviews work by many leaders
in the field, research reports, tips on getting start4ed,
computer applications, lesson plans, et.---44 pages--$5.00.

I will be happy to correspond with you.  I have been a
teacher-trainer for 5 years and am currently teaching a course
in CL for UVA here in Richmond, VA.  

Good Luck and let me hear from you!


LaRay W. Mason
Instructional Consultant
Chesterfield County
Virginia
From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: TALKED WITH THE PRINCIPAL
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 21:14:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Well, Carol,

I talked with my principal today. He is supportive of the Mathmagic (or
telecomm as instructional method) in general, but of course we can't go
out and purchase hardware at this point in the year. (Our school budget
is in the red, such that we can't hire lunch duty supervisors, so the
principal and two vice-principals are going to do lunch duties this
year. When that happens...well you KNOW there's budget problems!)

Anyhow, he recommended that I try it as a "pilot" program this year with
students doing it on an optional, voluntary basis for extra credit. So
that's what I'm going to do. He figures it will help us to integrate
technology into our instruction in the near future if I take a stab at
this now. I will register as soon as I know how many and which students
of mine will be participating (I won't even meet my students for the
first time until Tues. Sept. 8th) I imagine we'll do two cycles for the
1st quarter of the year. One in early/mid-Oct. and one in late Nov/early
Dec....

Also, he asked me to give our librarian a nudge to get her more
interested in spending part of her budget on hardware and software.
Apparently she prefers to spend her entire budget on books.

So, it will be some students from my Honors Geometry classes, which is
9th and 10th graders. It just occurred to me, that after we are involved
in it for a while, we could have our school newspaper run an article on
it. Will send you a firm registration in two or three weeks.

How are your math classes going? What other things are you doing with
your classes to get them ready for decimals and fractions besides that
one letter to the younger sibling suggestion of mine?

TTYL
Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                        

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From: mapsj@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Simon Juden)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Re: Fractals
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:46:45 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In article <21071.2AA7195D@puddle.fidonet.org> Brock.Gunter-smith@f400.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Brock Gunter-smith) writes:
>Hello out there, I am an avid CHAOS and FRACTAL freak looking for someone to
>lend a hand.  I am looking for formulas for various julia sets and even help
>on writing programs to display them.  Any input is welcome...  :-)  BROCK
>
>
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Try "The Beauty of Fractals", Peitgen and Richter, Springer-Verlag 1986, which
is utterly useless as a Mathematics source but does have some pretty pictures
and algorithms for their generation. If (hope springs eternal) you're also
interested in the underlying mathematics then the standard reference is
Blanchard's excellent survey article "Complex analytic dynamics on the Riemann
Sphere", Bull Amer Math Soc 11:85-141, 1984. Alan Beardon, who was my
supervisor when I worked in this field, is also producing a book (it may even
be out) on Complex iteration; I fully expect it to become the standard text in
the area as and when it appears and would not hesitate to recommend it to
anyone. Both these latter sources have the advantage of mathematical rigour,
but if it's merely the pretty pictures you're after then the former is probably
what you're looking for.

Simon
From: ED.KWASNIEWSKI@f240.n353.z1.fidonet.org (ED KWASNIEWSKI)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: What Are you?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 23:26:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:353/240 - The Polish Connecti, Westbank BC

On 08-26-92 Howard Hansen wrote to All... 
 
HH> I have a question for mathematics teachers or teachers of mathematics: 
HH> When you think of yourself in terms of your occupation would you 
HH> describe yourself as: 
HH> 
HH> A.  A mathematician who has some ability to communicate and teach 
HH> mathematics. 
HH> -OR- 
HH> B.  A teacher who some ability with mathematics. 
 
B. please!  I have difficulty calling myself a Mathematician (or 
Physicist) but am very comfortable saying I'm a teacher.  Maybe it's the 
capitals ... hmmm, or maybe teacher is easier to say/spell ;) 
 
... OFFLINE 1.41 * OK, I'm weird! But I'm saving up to be eccentric. 


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From: Mary.Darling@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Mary Darling)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Limits
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 14:35:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

One of my AP Calculus students had, what I thought, was a very
insightful approach to the proof of the lim sinx/x as x approaches 0.

Jamie graphed y =sinx and y=x on the same graph (using his TI-81) in a
VERY small viewing rectangle -  -.1<x<.1 and -.1<y<.1 .  This provided
him with a very powerful visualization that indeed these two functions
are exactly the same very close to zero.  His reasoning was, then, that
anything over itself must then be 1 which confirmed the value of the
limit.

This helped the rest of the students in the class "picture" what we were
trying to do and then gave the formal proof more meaning.

Just wanted to share that with you - my kids seem to be doing well with
this limit topic because they have the "power of visualization".

Also thanks to the person that gave the wonderful example of treating
limits as if one were approaching a door - remember that one?  I used it
in class and it worked well to set the stage for the discussion of
limits - even though I ended up slamming the door in another teachers
face!  I didn't realize she was standing in the hall waiting to talk to
me!
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From: Phil.Shapiro@f455.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Shapiro)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: NEW SHAREWARE DISK.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 21:45:41 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/455 - Odysseus Board, Silver Spring MD

   Hi there, everyone. Earlier this year I put together an Apple II disk of shareware "number games" that I made for elementary and middle school students. These games are not very fancy, but kids seem to enjoy playing them. The games involve mental arithmetic, estimating skills, and spatial reasoning. 
 
    In case any teachers out there might want a copy, I'd be happy to send out a free copy in exchange for four first class postage stamps. The name of the disk is: "Number Games 1."  And my address is:
 
     Phil Shapiro
     5201 Chevy Chase Parkway, NW
     Washington DC  20015-1747
 
   
    - Phil
 
BTW, I believe Arithmetic Teacher magazine will be reviewing this software within the next month or two. They called me earlier in the year to say they're expecting to review it in one of the fall issues.
 
I'm also interested in exchanging ideas with any teachers who might be teaching introductory multiplication concepts at the kindergarten and first grade level. I've been using a game on the "Number Games 1" disk to introduce some first graders I know to multiplication concepts. The kids seem genuinely receptive to some of the ideas.
 
 
  >>> Oh, I forgot to add that overseas teachers can send four floppy disks in lieu of the postage stamps. Also, this disk has been uploaded to the Apple II Roundtable library on GEnie, and the Apple II Education Forum Library on America Online.

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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: TESTING                  
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 13:05:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Rick,

I saw your message:

-> Wanted:  Innovative methods of motivating students to strive for
-> better results on initial test. High school level material desired.
-> We are striving for success at an earlier level of testing. What
-> works for you?

And did not understand it completely (perhaps because I am not familiar
with O B I teachers??) What do you mean by "initial test"? Do you mean
that you allow students to repeat chapter tests until they finally pass
it? Is this a self-paced program, so that the student doesn't take the
test until they feel ready? Or are they all taking it at the same time?
What about having some sort of penalty for taking the test on a repeat
run? Like, you can't get higher than a B on the second time, or higher
than a C on the third time? I have to imagine that the amount of
additional paperwork for teachers to correct additional tries of
students on repeat tests would be overwhelming. At the school where I
teach, we generally do not permit repeated tests.

Sheila
            

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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: NEXT MESSAGE "FORWARDED" 
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 10:15:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Hey everyone,

The message that follows this one is a private netmail message sent to
me by an internet user named  Jeff Connor. Aparently he is having
trouble posting in this area, but has some very good questions and would
like input from users here.

I have advised him to try and post his original question here again, but
in the meantime am crossposting his message to me in the hope of getting
things started.

Sheila King
K12_Math echo Moderator
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)


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From: Rick.Herbst@f615.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Herbst)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: TESTING
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 10:27:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/615 - Scolasticom, Palmyra NY

Wanted:  Innovative methods of motivating students to strive for 
better results on initial test. High school level material desired.
We are striving for success at an earlier level of testing. What 
works for you?

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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: COMPUSERVE GETS K12?     
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 09:33:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Carol,

Another response from the K12_Sysop echo on the topice of whether K12 is
available on Compuserve and how to get it (this response is from Jack
crawford):

-> I am not aware of any way Compu$erve could be getting K12net unless
-> they are gating it directly from USEnet. If this were the case, we
-> would have seen some evidence of it before this, I'm sure. We should
-> have seen the "load of messages" Carol spoke of, I would think!
-> We do not gate the Channels to USEnet.

I am not sure how to interpret this, except it seems he is suggesting
that maybe the messages you are getting are NOT from Compuserver? I am
not sure. Maybe you should double check (i.e. are you _certain_ that's
where they're coming from?).

In any case, I suggested to him that his message and Helen's (that I
posted to you previously) were not compatible, and had he seen her's?

Will probably get more info on this later,
Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                               

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From: Mary.Darling@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Mary Darling)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: REVISING GEOMETRY CURRICU
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:10:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

->
-> OK, ideas sort of run out at this point, but its a start. I've got to
-> organize and refine it.
->
-> Comments desired!
-> Sheila

Your ideas sound great.  Have you seen the Discoverying Geometry Book
from Key Curriculum Press?  Michael Serra, author.  (I think I spelled
his name correctly).  That book is "constructed" in much the same order
as your thoughts.  This is the second year that we are using it and the
Geometry teacher loves it.  My son went through that course and has a
much better understanding of geometric concepts and proofs than I
expected.  I'm kind of a died in the wool sceptic about those things -
but this really works.  If your interested, I might be able to talk the
teacher into signing on here and you could get his reactions.

We are using the Geometric Supposer instead of the Geometer's SketchPad
simply because we are IBM and not MAC.  SketchPad is only written for
Mac currently.

Good luck -

Mary Darling
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From: John.Elliott@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (John Elliott)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: CO-OPERATIVE EDUCATION
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 21:07:16 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Last year there was an 800 number for a co-op education bbd (attached to an 
American university I believe.  I have lost the number. Does anyone else have 
the number? Are there other similar 800 numbers out there?
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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Gasoline Consumption
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 11:12:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

This message was from RANDY EDWARDS to ALL,
originally in conference ANEWS  "Al
and was forwarded to you by JACK CRAWFORD.
                    -------------------------
 Via NY Transfer News Service 718-448-2358, 718-448-2683
 Subject: BUSH: The "Energy President" (II)
 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:41:19 EDT
 From: <cmcl2!math.cornell.edu!harbelb>
 Activists Mailing List <cmcl2!pucc.Princeton.EDU!ACTIV-L%MIZZOU1.BITNET>

 ******************************************************************
 Kilograms of motor gasoline eonsumed per capita, 1989; and
 average annual percentage growth of oil imports, 1982 to 1988:
 ******************************************************************
                     GASOLINE CONSUMED    GROWTH OF OIL
 COUNTRY                 PER CAPITA       IMPORTS (%)

 United States               1,272            7.2
 Canada                        947          -62.1
 Australia                     741          -25.0
 Switzerland                   531            2.0
 Sweden                        515           -8.3
 New Zealand                   485           -4.4
 Germany                       456            1.3
 Netherlands                   437            2.4
 Norway                        433          -20.9
 United Kingdom                421           -7.3
 Finland                       417            0.6
 Austria                       344            0.7
 France                        344           -0.7
 Belgium                       296            1.1
 Denmark                       294           -9.0
 Japan                         254            1.4
 Ireland                       236           -1.5
 Italy                         229           -1.0
 Spain                         195            1.4

 Sources: United Nations, Energy Statistics Yearbook 1989 (New York: United
 Nations, 1991), pp. 194-207. World Competativeness Report 1991, published
 by IMD International, Lausanne, Switzerland, and World Economic Forum,
 Geneva, Switzerland, p. 287.

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From: Dan.Eastman@f131.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Eastman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: RE: Want To Become a Teacher
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 13:56:04 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/131 - The right place, Tacoma WA

I'm 38 just signed off of a 20 year stint in the Army.  I have
about a year + or - of college with UofMaryl in Comp Sci.  I
would most likely go back to my original in Archae/Anthro.

I am self taught in Latin and a little Greek and Turkish.  My
travels have taken me through most of that part of the world
and all over the far east.  I could teach from first hand
knowledge of Istanbul, Rome, and the Danube frontier.

I have taught soldiers but not young folks.  But before
we went to Rome the second time (quote daughter "not again")
she and I sat down and read Seutonius and Tacitus together.
When we got there - somehow - magically, Rome had changed.

Besides GI bill, what else is available - and what 
allowances for "life experience" are there?  What is
Wash. min requirements for a certificate?

To try and do this and blow it would break this old war-horses
heart.  Better go before I get too sappy

Thanks for the words and encouragement.

Dan

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From: Don.Adams@p0.f120.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Don Adams)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Parlimentary Procedures
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 05:55:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:231/120.0 - Someplace BBS, Indianapolis IN

 Godd Morning Aaron,
        Read your post a little late for the 1st meeting, but assuming you 
will have more, I'll suggest the following source.  The very best and most 
practical instruction I have seen on Parliamentary Procedure is in the "FFA
Handbook". I do not know the status of FFA (Future Farmers of America) in 
Auburn WA, but if you have no luck procurring a copy, let me know. We 
Hoosiers still get out and kick a clod occasionally.
Cordially,
Don  
 

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From: Ruth.Baize@f4.n11.z1.fidonet.org (Ruth Baize)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Help R Kids - States and Provinces Race
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 09:57:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:11/4 - Region Echo Mail Hu, West Allis WI

Hi! I teach 4th and 5th Social Studies.We would like to answer your 
survey.  Lodge Elementary School, Evansville, IN 

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