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From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Is Oyster Band List Running?
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:43:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.

In article <1992Jul22.015303.3265@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> krj@netsun.cl.msu.edu (Ken Josenhans) writes:
>Just before I left for vacation, someone announced an Oyster Band 
>mailing list which was to be run from blowfish.taligent.com.  I tried
>to subscribe, but this address appears to be solidly down since the 
>announcement was made.

The list does exist, and should be running now.  Of course, the mailer
of the gateway machine for Taligent had trouble forwarding mail to blowfish
just as _I_ left for vacation, wouldntyaknow ...

Anyway, the address to subscribe is:

	oysters-request@blowfish.taligent.com
--
-- Christophe

"Be calm.  Look cute."
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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Name that musician
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:46:26 GMT


Put on your Sherlock Holmes caps and get ready to solve a mystery.

I received a postcard a few weeks ago with an illegible signature
and have no idea who it was from.  It was postmarked June 28, I think
(it's a bit smudged), in Charlotte, NC.  It is printed completely in
upper case letters, except for two occurrences of 'of', which is 
in lower case script.  The spacing of the letters and one spelling error,
which I'll reproduce below, make me wonder if the author might be dyslexic.
The handwriting also makes me think that the author might be lefthanded.
The signature looks kind of like |/`  with the lines connected, with
a dot over the place where the / meets the ` and a little squiggle on the 
upper half of the |.  I can't even guess how many letters there are in it.

Here's the text:

GARY
GOOD TO  SEE YOU  AT  KERRVILLE
WHA'S UP IN FALL RIVER?  I'M  IN
CHAROLETTE, NC. - HOME O F TAMMY FAE
(REMEMBER HER)  YESTER DAY
ITUNED  UP A  FIDDLE - I WAS THINKIN
of SE NDIN IT  TO  GEORGE - ALONG WITH
A  PACK  of  MATCHES

Here are some other clues.  As far as I can remember, the only fiddle
players I met in Kerrville were Doug Clegg, from New Hampshire, and
Gina (Gena?) Forsythe, from New Orleans.  Doug told me it wasn't him.
The hospitality booth at the festival had a looseleaf notebook with
performers' mailing lists; I signed a bunch of them, but didn't get
beyond the beginning of the alphabet (up to D? G?).  That would probably
include one more fiddler, who I didn't meet: Darcie Deaville.  On the
other hand, anybody can tune a fiddle :-)

So, anybody out there know who was in Charlotte at the end of June?
Thanks.

--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
From: venable@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu (Wallace Venable)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: John Hartford schedule
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:49:08 GMT
Organization: WVU College of Engineering


	A while back someone asked about appearances by John Hartford.  I 
had lost my copy of his ealy summer plans, but can now report the following:

Quote from the WATERWAYS JOURNAL (trade paper of the riverboat industry)

"HARTFORD AT HERMANN

	Folk singer-riverman John Hartford is scheduled to peform at the 
Showboat Theatre in Hermann, Mo. July 31.  For more information or to 
acquire tickets, call 314, 486-2025."

John is a licensed captain, so this is legit trade news.

	I have also heard, through separate sources, that he is scheduled 
to appear at the Captains' Dinner, Mid-America Sternwheel Festival, 
Marietta, Ohio, September 11.  Usually the musicians at the dinner also do a 
free outdoor show, either the same evening or next day.
From: ebstokes@maxwell.crd.ge.com (Ed Stokes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: MELANIE folk singer of the sixties????????????????
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:32:58 GMT
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

I read in the paper in 1989 that Melanie showed up at Yasgur's farm on
the 20th anniversary of her Woodstock performance, and she performed a
set for the gathered aging hippies.

She did have a top 40 hit in ~1972 or so called Brand New Key. The
lyric was "I've got a brand new pair of roller skates and you've got a
brand new key" or something like that.

Spug
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Wanted: Lyrics to "Willie McBride" (?) "No Man's Land" (?)
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:57:48 GMT
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company

In article <1992Jul29.040525.17500@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:
>In article <Bs4JGA.A6L@snuffy.wa.atk.com> mluders@snuffy.wa.atk.com (Matthew_Luders) writes:
>>Hello everyone.
>>
>>I'd like to find out the lyrics to a certain folk tune.  I don't know the title
>>but it might be "Willie McBride" or "Flowers of the Forest" or something like
>>that.  I only know a few lines, which go something like this:
>>
>>...
>
>"The Green Fields of France is by Australian Eric Bogle, who also wrote another
>powerful song called "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda."  I don't know who
>the female singer you heard might have been, but Bogle recorded it on an album
>called "Now I'm Easy."  The lyrics are:

The female singer was very likely June Tabor.  It's on either "Airs and
Graces" or "Ashes and Diamonds", and "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda"
is on whichever one of those two "Green Fields" isn't on.  (I think.
As must be obvious by now, I'm writing from work and my record collection
isn't handy for reference.)  Tabor also recorded at least one other
Bogle song, "Now I'm Easy", the title cut from the album Toby mentions.

There's some confusion about the name of this song, by the way.  I believe
the title quoted above is the correct one, i.e. the one Bogle calls it
(and he oughta know), but it's also been recorded under the names "No
Man's Land", "Willie McBride", and "Beat the Drum Slowly".

>(Chorus) Did they beat the drum slowly, did they sound the fife lowly?
>         Did the rifles fire o'er ye as they lowered you down?
>         Did the bugles sing 'The Last Post' and chorus?
>         Did the pipes play 'The Fleurs of the Forest?'

The penultimate line always had me confused, until someone from England
explained that "The Last Post" is the British Army's equivalent of "Taps",
the tune played at lights-out time, and, apparently, at military funerals.
It may even be the same tune; I didn't get that straight (due in part
to the technical problems of emailing tunes).  The title is derived
from the very prosaic historical use of the bugle call, which was to
announce the arrival (or perhaps departure?) of the last bag of mail of
the day.  I had thought the line was "...'The Last Post' _in_ chorus",
meaning "Did a whole bunch of bugles play the tune at the same time, as
opposed to the usual practice of playing it on a solo bugle at occasions
other than funerals?"  However, that's just a guess; if Toby is copying
printed lyrics, they're certainly correct.

>Strong stuff;  maybe the best anti-war anthem ever.

High on the list, for sure.

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From: rmura@world.std.com (Ron Mura)
Subject: Re: Loudan Wainwright III
Organization: The World
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:28:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.134834.19457@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> afd@bellcore.com (Alex F. Dietz) writes:
> 
> LWIII back in the old US of A and living around Westchester county again.
> (Someone please help me out here!)  He plays at a place just north of NYC
> called "The Turning Point" in Piermont NY.  Twice a year or so, plus appearances
> at local folk festivals.  He's still composin', playin', and sharp as ever.

At a show at CW Post, NY, a couple of months ago, Loudon said
that his new album was in the can.  It will be called _History_
and on Virgin Records.  He has a whole bunch of great new songs
so it should be a good one.


-- 
- Ron Mura, Boston, Massachusetts              rmura@world.std.com
From: rjw@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Robert Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Lyrics: "It's a Pleasure to Know You" (or something like that)
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:40:20 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

I'm trying to get the lyrics to a song that's called something like
"It's a Pleasure to Know You."

The chorus is along the lines of
	It's a pleasure to know you, a pleasure to see you smile
	a comfort to know we'll share the road a while
	but pleasure is fleeting and comforts are far between
	it's a pleasure to know you, and the comforts you bring

I've heard various people sing it at sing-alongs I've been to, 
but only recently gotten the interest to do it myself.

If anybody knows the song, or knows where I might find the lyrics,
I'd appreciate it.

Post or e-mail is fine.

-Robert
 rjw@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu

 "It's been a long hard time, it's gonna be a long, steep climb
 No one's gonna change our minds 'bout what we're gonna do
 And when the road gets rough, everybody's saying just give it up
 All of our friends' sweet love's gonna carry us through"
	-"Love's Gonna Carry Us" by Fred Small
From: robert@nextoid.sw.socal.com (Robert Patrick Thille)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,from.socal.com
Subject: David Wilcox's tour dates.
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:25:55 GMT
Reply-To: robert@nextoid.sw.socal.com (Robert Patrick Thille)
Organization: Successive Waves, NeXTWare, CA USA


Here is the latest info I have on David's tour schedule:

July
16	Snomass Mall Theater - Snowmass, CO (303) 925-1461
18	Chatauqua Auditorium - Boulder, CO (303) 442-3282
31	Miller Plaza - Chattanooga, TN (615) 265-0771

August
1	Birchmere - Alexandria, VA (703) 824-1525
3	Raoul's - Portland, ME (207) 773-6886
5	The Bottom Line - New York, NY (212) 228-6300
8	Newport Folk Festival - Newport, RI (212) 496-9000
23	Rocky Mountain Folk Festival - Estes Park, CO (303) 449-4242

September
13	Elk Grove Park - Sacramento, CA (916) 635-1005 x.203
26	Smothers Theater - Malibu, CA (310) 456-4588
27	The Hop - City of Industry, CA (213) 650-9614


It would be great if someone had John Gorka's, Patty Larkin's, Shawn  
Colvin's, Christine Lavin's, or anyone else who's great and posted it.


Robert

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robert@nextoid.sw.socal.com   NeXT Guru??????  OK At All
robert@nextoid.uucp (SLOW!)   NeXT Guru!!!!!!  E-Mail
14053 Foothill Rd. CA 93060   Well, maybe :-)  Addresses
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re: Lorena ???
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:44:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.192519.7906@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield) writes:
> In article <RATY.92Jul27173809@olorin.tele.nokia.fi>
> raty@tele.nokia.fi (Timo Tero Tapio Raty) writes:
> 
>> 	My father happened to see a TV document about (folk etc.)
>> songs from the times of the US' Civil War. He asked my if I could get
>> words for this song called "Lorena". I might get it from library but
>> I'll try this first - anybody know it ?
> 
> I wonder if it's the same as a song that the Louvin Bros did called
> Lorene?  It starts off:
> 
> Lorene, Lorene
> Write me a letter
> Answer the last one that I sent to you
> 
> It's in a minor key.  Is this the one you're looking for?
> 
> David
> david.t.greenfield@dartmouth.edu
-----
I have a cassett (and it's also on CD) of that special. I believe John Hartford
sings "Lorena."  Kathy Mattea also sings three wonderful songs on it. It is
very difficult to find, I found it through a catalog.  Anyway, I'll post the
lyrics here tomorrow if I remember.

rlwilliams@gallua
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: mjo@b24a.ingr.com (M.Jesus.O at Beat)
Subject: Re: Androgynous
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:05:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.165551.16478@wuecl.wustl.edu>, cab@jezebel.wustl.edu (Christopher Butler) writes:
> 
> I am trying to find out who originally sang the song "Androgynous."  I have
> a version by the Crash Test Dummies, and they refer to the writer as Paul
> Westerberg, but I can't for the life of me figure out what other band(s)
> have performed this song.  If anyone could provide some information, I would
> be very thankful.

"Androgynous" was in fact written by Paul Westerberg, formerly of the
Replacements. The song in it's original form (TRUE form, most 'mats fans
would say) appears on _Let It Be_. The only instrument is piano, maybe
sand blocks or a little light percussion.

Most 'mats fans intially recoil at their first hearing of the CTD's version.
Me, I like it, they put the song in a whole new light - more celebratory,
less decadent. Given the 'mats history of 'interpreting' other folks' songs
(at least in live performances), I would bet Westerberg digs the cover. And
the royalties.

Don't know of any other version of this song, though.

BTW, the only kinship between the 'mats and the CTD would be the spirit
they bring to their musics [sic]. And the 'mats are from the Twin Cities -
both bands are from the northern-type tundra.

        Michael J. Oatley               "When the going gets weird
        AFME Development                 the weird turn pro."
        mjo@beat.b24a.ingr.com
        ingr!b24a!beat!mjo                      Hunter S. Thompson
        205/730-8738
 

Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:35:00 -0400 
From: "Mary A. Mark" <mmbt+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: World Music Library

 
A Question:  World Music Library

  I'm trying to find a mailing address / ordering information for a label
called World Music Library, which carries all sorts of trad world music,
like Indonesian folk songs, Drum music from Azerbaijan, Chinese Gamelan,
etc.  I picked a brochure listing their releases when I was travelling 
in Britain, but it doesn't have any information about where to order
their stuff from.  If anyone knows of a source, please let me know.

Mary

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Department of Psychology      
Carnegie Mellon University   "Through quiet processes of time and 
Pittsburgh,PA                 information, threads within the human cells
U.S.A.                        have woven themselves into a woman."	    
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From: DAN.BLOOM@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Dan Bloom")
Subject: "Living in Lowell" -- Jim R. or Larry F.?
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:52:30 EST

In article<1992Jul29.212418.29860@das.harvard.edu>,
   poster <jmf@abacus.havard.edu ( ghost )> writes (in part):

>        [Iris Dement credits instrumentation to]
>  Jim Rooney, her producer, now a noted Nashville denizen
>  who pretty much discovered her when she went to peddle her songs
>  around Nashville as a writer, formerly a Cambridge music scene
>  all-around character & author of the memorable
>     "Living in Braintree with you in Methuen is almost
>      like living in Lowell" . . .

Could've sworn it was not Rooney but estimable Boston-area picker/
songwriter/vocalizer and sometime Sour Mash Boy Larry Flint
(sp? Flynt? must check via his material when I get home) who both
wrote and performed this ca. 1977 (?) classic.

Both men are Great Americans, of course -- arguably as much as their
accomplished colleague, New England country stalwart John Lincoln Wright.

       "To hide my hurt, I bought a raincoat,
        But, try as I might, it still shows."
                                             (from "Living in Lowell")

[More recently, Lowell itself is of course the site of the now-annual
Lowell Folk Festival, which my SO and I enjoyed very thoroughly last week.
Many, many fine performances (sadly, too many for me to make time to
to review for posting right now), as well as great ethnic 'n' folk-ish
crafts, food, etc.  If you were there, tell a friend for next year.]
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.dementia
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: shel silverstein pot song
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:50:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.190505.9569@col.hp.com>, judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller) writes:
>johne@vcd.hp.com (John Eaton) writes:
>>Shel has a knack for writing interesting songs. He did "Boy Named Sue" and
>>the "Unicorn Song".
>
>Is this the same shel silverstein as the poet who wrote the
>children's book "The Missing Piece"?
>
>If so, I don't know of his song writing.  Does he also perform?
>Does had have any albums out?  Musically, are they any good?

Same guy.  Also "Where the Sidewalk Ends," "The Giving Tree," and "Uncle
Shelby's ABZ Book," one of the most subversive pieces of literature in the
English language.  Some people are just so damn talented that it makes me
want to go out and slit my wrists, and Silverstein is close to the top of
the list.  I was fascinated to learn that he's responsible for "Cover of
the Rolling Stone," a truly great silly song.  I don't offhand remember
the name of the band that made it famous ("Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show"
rings a bell, but I was doing a lot of controlled substances in those
days); I do remember that Rolling Stone eventually ran their picture on
the cover, with the headline "What's-Their-Names Finally Make It."

In a strange way, Silverstein reminds me of Ewan MacColl: they're both
charter members of the "My God, he wrote THAT, TOO?" club.  I've never
heard of any albums but if there are any, I'll buy 'em.

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Jon Berger     jonb@ingres.com     {mtxinu,sun,amdahl,pyramid}!ingres!jonb
"If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." 
                                         -- Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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From: shelley@b30!b11.ingr.com (Shelley Read Heard)
Subject: Re: Lorena ???
Reply-To: shelley@heard.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:57:35 GMT

"Lorena" is on the Norman Blake/Red Rector LP - a great collection of tunes
and two great artists (guitar/mandolin).

-- 
   ~ ~    Shelley R. Heard (shelley@heard.b30.ingr.com)
 ( o o )  Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
  ( ^ )   Disclaimer:  This is NOT my master's voice!
  / U \   Whoof!
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: as432@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Dettra)
Subject: Mary Black "Collected"???
Reply-To: as432@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Dettra)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 03:40:43 GMT


Can anyone tell me where I can get or order Mary Black's "Collected" CD? 
Please E-mail me.  Thanks a lot.

-Scott
as432@cleveland.freenet.edu
Organization: Doctoral student, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:06:28 -0400 
From: Lori Cole <lc1r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Altan information
	<15469@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>

In case people haven't been reading the net in the last few months,
Frankie Kennedy, flute-player with Altan, is fighting spinal cancer. 
Donations and/or cards should be sent to their American agent, Helen
Bomarito -- her address is on their tapes/cd's.  Latest news is that
he's already undergone surgery, is currently doing a course of radiation
and will probably have to undergo chemotherapy later.  Word is that he's
getting through it okay thus far.

Lori Cole
From: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu (Owen Goldin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: re: Richard Thompson Summary
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:32:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095E4CB.DDD97DC0
Reply-To: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

Thanks to Cliff Munson for his paragraphs on RT.  Some addenda -- 
there are 2 Fairport releases put out recently with RT on them, "Heyday"
(which I have yet heard) and "House Full."  The latter has the "Full
House" lineup but is far superior.  This is to my mind the first and only
Fairport release in which RT's guitar playing is present in all of its
glory.

Also to be mentioned is "Morris On" -- of which RT is a participant,
though not a major one.

RT has also done a bunch of soundtracks of which I've heard only one --
"Hard Cash."  He does 2 songs.  He plays on most of the other ones,
which feature friends from the English folk world.

There are also lots of bootleg tapes floating around.  2 quasi-official
tapes are "Doom and Gloom from the Tomb" Parts One and Two -- available
through "Flypaper" -- a somewhat sporadic publication on RT and related
folk.  I don't have the address with me -- it's included in the notes
to the earlier releases.  I have Vol. 1 and it's very good.  I think 
that that is sold out.  Vol. 2 I have not yet heard.

I believe that there was also a Richard and Linda live album, released
only in England.  Information on this would be appreciated.
From: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM (Fil Feit)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: REQ: Tom Paxton lyrics/chords
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:22:15 GMT
Reply-To: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article 25836@socrates.umd.edu, jimbo@socrates.umd.edu (Jim Bogard) writes:
>
>                  Yuppies In the Sky
>                  By Tom Paxton
>                  Lyrics Reprinted without Permission
>                  (c) 1985 Pax music
>
>   [...]
>Each one was wearing running shoes upon the ghostly deck
>And each one had a cotton sweater wrapped around the neck
>They all held out their credit cards and tried in to buy
                                                ^^^^^^
>But not a store was open to the yuppies in the sky
>
                   that's "in vain to"

>Jim Bogard  (jimbo@socrates.umd.edu)
>                                            "Implement now, tweak later."
>Tech at large

--f2
------------------------------------
  How much can a poor nation stand?
  --Tom Paxton
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: New Papa John Creech CD
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:54:38 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zabriskie.berkeley.edu

For you Papa John fans out there:

The dude just put out a new CD.  Actually, this is the
very first recording billed as Papa John Creech, as I understand it, 
even though he's been a supporting musician for about
40 years.

This is probably the wrong newsgroup, since the material I
would describe as "funk", but the other r.m.* newsgroups
are pretty worthless so I posted this here.  Stylistic issues
aside, there are some nice takes on this recording.

I don't think the CD's in distribution, but there is a phone
number for ordering: 310-426-0761.

Later!