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From: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Scottish Newsgroup
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <Bw0pL9.Ivo@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>In article <Bvt0Eu.9Bt@dcs.ed.ac.uk> morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay) writes:
>
>>Why don't you order a veggie one from McSweens - some people ( me)
>>prefer them!
>
>Describe one of these wonders to us. What do they use for the bag? Do
>they use soy protein instead of sheep parts?
>

Hmph - do I detect the tiniest bit of sarkiness here? :-)

Most of a traditional haggis is already veggie - oatmeal. The
bits of offal found in a traditional haggis are replaced in the
veggie ones by nuts and lentils and carrot etc. The bag is plastic.

The spices added are the same. Some meat-eaters of my
acquaintance prefer the veggie versions.



M

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: jk@spock.retix.com (John Keegan)
Subject: Re: Sinead O'Connor's cute little performance
Organization: Retix, Santa Monica CA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:23:16 GMT


>Well, her opinions provoked quite a many thoughts from you...

>Who would decide what's constructive and what's not? In my opinion IT would 
>be constructive if only a person's opinions were critiziced, not the person 
>him/herself. Disagree with her if you want, but attacking her person doesn't 
>make your opinions any more convincing, on the contrary.

>Regards,
>Timo Ahonen                        "Sometimes I think the surest sign that
>University of Helsinki             intelligent life exists elsewhere in the
>Finland                            universe is that none of it has tried to
>Timo.Ahonen@Helsinki.FI            contact us." Calvin by Bill Watterson

I certainly don't feel, one can seperate Sineads opinions and personality on
this issue. The fact that she is in the public spotlight means her actions
will be noted. She is trying to argue the case for abortion in Ireland and
I think it would be a sad day for Irish Women if abortion was passed because
of the influence of the PERSON Sinead O' Connor. Plenty of people are 
currently working hard to convince people in Ireland that the Constitution 
needs some form of ammendment for the abortion issue. I hardly think that
when Irish parents come to vote, they'll want to use Sinead O 'Connor as a
role model for their childern. 
	
John.

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From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Export 2nd hand cars  JAPAN=>IRELAND/SCOTLAND (biz.contacts wanted)
Date: 15 Oct 1992 11:09:28 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: soc
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <ANIL.92Oct15030148@chobi.cs.titech.ac.jp>, anil@cs.titech.ac.jp (Anil Bhatia) writes:

> Just out of interest:
> For the fiscal yr ending April 91 here are some intersting stats:
> 400 2nd hand cars were exported from Japan to England.
> 16,000 2nd hand cars were exported to IRELAND!!
> I want to find someone who can tell me why

As a guess:

The last time I compared car prices, Ireland was a very expensive place to
buy a car, e.g. a Ford Escort cost about the same in Ireland as a Ford Sierra
(next larger model) did in the UK. This seems to be mostly due to higher
taxes. As a result there's probably a larger 2nd hand market.

Also, Ireland has no car industry of its own, all new cars are imported, so
perhaps the importers find it useful to import 2nd hand ones as well, if
they can offer them at a good price.

Steve

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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Scottish Newsgroup
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:29:44 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) wrote:
> In article <james.719183614@wrs.com> james@wrs.com (James Moore) writes:
>> I just called the US Department of Agriculture.  The basic rule is that
>> meat imports depend on the disease status of a country, and currently
>> you can't import any meat products from the UK.
> Probably because of Mad Cow Disease, I suppose.  I seem to remember reading
> recently that 60000 cows have now died of this.

While this might seem a rational reason for banning UK beef imports, no
beef goes into haggis (nor are sheep fed on any of the stuff that causes
BSE), and the US meat ban was *really* motivated by tit-for-tat; it's in
response to the European ban on imports of US beef contaminated by bovine
somatostatin (a growth hormone widely used over there to boost yield).

It's not obvious that the European ban was motivated by anything other than
agripolitics, either; regulatory authorities on both sides of the Atlantic
are primarily interested in protecting profits for producers, not the
health of their consumers.

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From: newt@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Michael Steven Newton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Samhain, how to celebrate...
Date: 9 Oct 92 07:30:40 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

ulick@stravinsky.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:

>Dress up in a funny costume, and knock on people's doors, and if they don`t
>give you any candy or fruit let the air out of their tires, or spray their
>house with Gilette Foamy. or...

  This isn't too far removed from the "spirit" of Celtic Samhain, since it
  was all about the time of year when the door between worlds was open,
  and the mischievous sidhe were roaming about and playing tricks on people.

>As kids we used to dip for apples, catch `em in our mouth, embed a myriad of
>different objects in Barmbracks, etc..  Has anyone ever seen a brack over
>here?

  Apple-bobbing too, is probably the folk memory of one of the many
  divining/auguries peformed on Samhain, as I believe the pumpkin head
  is as well (ok - turnip in Scotland - it's all cult of the severed head
  to me).

  -- mn
Xref: sparky soc.culture.celtic:6582 soc.culture.french:7426
From: melennec@stna.dgac.fr (Ronan Melennec STNA 7C p8240 BD22)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Gallo? (rectificatif)
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:27:22 GMT
Followup-To: Re: Gallo?
Organization: STNA 95 rue Henri Rochefort 91025 Evry Cedex 33(1)60.79.80.00

Le premier paragraphe de l'article precedent aurait du etre :

Le gallo est un dialecte francais (a rattacher au groupe des
`langues d'oil') qui se parle dans la partie Est
de la Bretagne (on ne le parle pas dans le Finistere).
Comme je ne le parle pas, je ne saurais dire s'il contient ou non des
mots issus de la langue bretonne (voir ci-dessous).

(le lecteur attentif aura certainement remarque la parenthese
restituee :-))

En effet, il n'y a pas qu'en Bretagne que se parlent (ou parlaient)
les langues d'oil. 

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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Irish Rejects Associated (IRA)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:19:53 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.celtic
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <NN1ksB6w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:


 <article deleted>

Now note two simple things here:

1) I had nothing to do with this discussion.

2) You can bet you won't hear diddly-squat from ol righteous Ray (Dunn)
about someone trying to stir up trouble or posting malicious articles 
intended only to cause controversy - why you ask? Because he only
finds articles that he disagrees with troublesome....

				gln

Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.usa
From: walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,)
Subject: Re: Welfare in Mississippi and Alabama
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:42:45 GMT

From article <1992Oct9.200629.27506@morrow.stanford.edu>, by silva@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Holly Silva):
>  ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn) writes:
>>
>>Why are you so desparate to avoid a discussion in public in this newsgroup
>>(usenet does not have "lists")?
>>
> 
> 	Because, an in-depth discussion of the American welfare system does
> not belong in s.c.c. Neither does your grand-standing sanctimony or
> your list of rhetorical, smug questions above.
>

I stongly disagree, welfare is not an issue that purely a "problem" in
the US, similar dicussions can also be found in the UK, so such a
discussion in this news group is relavant to the culture and society of
Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Breton, etc. These "nations" do not only exist
in the past, such things as kilted highlands (and such like) may be
quaint, and to deny a discussion on these topics could be construde(sp?)
to suggest that these "countries" do not have present day cultural and
societal problems culture that are of any import.

													GW
Xref: sparky soc.culture.celtic:6714 soc.culture.canada:7394
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Wang and RAID
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:02:31 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Willett") writes:

>Regarding the questions just asked in soc.culture.celtic
>from Quebec regarding what Wang is doing with RAID storage,
>Wang has just announced a high performance RAID system for
>the VS minicomputer installed base.  This is a RAID 3 system
>which has been selected because it matches the VS minicomputer
>architecture the best.  As this announcement has just come
>out, I am not yet sure who the manufacturer is, but I can find
>out for those interested.  I'll be happy to send anyone further
>details.

That's interesting 'cause Wang are real popular in Scotland at the moment.
RAID seems quite an appropriate name since that's what they did, raid the
coffers of the SDA and scarper leaving a few hundred people in the lurch.

Ah well, that's business I suppose.

Dave

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Welsh endearments needed
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:25:54 GMT

In article <1b2d81INNmv6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bf469@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Twila Oxley Price) writes:

>I am writing a stroy where one of the characters is Welsh, and I need to know
>what kind of endearments he would be likely to use to his wife. I've scanned
>my Welsh dictionary and the grammar books don't seem to cover the situation.
>If anyone could help me, I'd be most grateful.

Heh... the local theater group did Henry IV Part 1 not too long 
ago and they had Glendower's daughter speaking welsh... Someone
told me later that Shakespeare didn't actually write in the 
Welsh...






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Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Scottish Newsgroup
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:59:47 GMT

In article <CC.92Oct5183255@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
|In article <1992Oct5.163852.6262@news.clarkson.edu| walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,) writes:
|
|   Doesn't Barr's Irn Bru come in cans now. Do they still use bottles at
|   all?
|
|Both - some shops sell plastic bottles of it; some places sell cans; the
|traditional (e.g. chip shops) and the vaguely eco-friendly establishments
|sell it in returnable glass bottles with a 10p deposit.  Many shops seem to
|give you the choice of returnable glass bottles and non-returnable plastic
|ones.


Hmm.. are these like the 2 liter bottles which they use for Coca Cola 
Classic in the States? Ugh... 

I saw my first 3 liter bottle of Coke in Texas some years back.. Yes, 
Martha, everything _IS_ bigger in Texas.






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From: imcc@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain McCord)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Celts-Christianity-Catholicism
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:15:24 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Scotland.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Matthew Huntbach (mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk) wrote:
: 
: Hmm, from my recall of Irish myths and legends, there is not
: much about feminism in them, and a Celtic warrior hero might be
: just a little upset if you slept with his wife.

 O.k..... how about all the great celtic warrior hero's who were trained
by women. ( Cuhuliain ? )

: 
: Matthew Huntbach
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: The UK Press DID mention Sinead O'Connor's cute little performance
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:30:53 GMT
Reply-To: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <1992Oct8.194034.22843@news.nd.edu> ulick@beethoven.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.142530.21794@cabell.vcu.edu> dresler@cabell.vcu.edu (Dan Resler) writes:
>
>By my understanding most means more than half.  I never said that ALL Irish
>people try to ignore her.  Yes, she has a large following, but the fact that
>Europeans based netters hadn't a clue what we were discussing proves that her
>performance was ignored (come to think of it they were mostly British based.
>Did Sinead's performance make the news in Ireland?)
>

The (ex-Glasgow) Herald had a paragraph about the furore, the day after
it happened. 

Most "quality" papers in the UK would not give much space to this kind
of story. It may be that most readers of s.c.c don't read the "tabloid"
press, who might give such a thing a bit more space. Remember though,
that this incident happened on US TV - not on Irish or British TV
and as such is of passing interest, especially as Sinead O'Connor, though 
successful, is hardly a mega-star.


One would often find the stories that grab the front pages on UK
tabloids - usually about murders, vicars or celebrities -
occupying only an inch or so on obscure pages of the other papers, if
they get a mention at all.


Sadly, I don't recall the Herald ever reporting the details of the "news item"
which led the Sun to report "FREDDIE STAR ATE MY HAMSTER!!


M

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Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame! Proceed no further: God won't accept your thanks for murther.
From: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Scottish Newsgroup
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:06:29 GMT
Reply-To: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <1992Oct7.221811.25815@philmtl.philips.ca> ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn) writes:
>In referenced article, morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay) writes:
>
>Unfortunately neither the US nor Canadian Customs allow _any_ meat products
>to be imported privately.  Foot 'n mouth, Mad English Disease, things like
>that you know.

Why don't you order a veggie one from McSweens - some people ( me)
prefer them!

I often take one with me if I'm doing a spot of weekend hill-walking.
A veggie haggis, a bit of turnip, some tatties and some butter
cooked in a youth hostel on a cold evening after some honest excercise
is a rare tea.



M

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Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame! Proceed no further: God won't accept your thanks for murther.
From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: European superiority
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:43:12 GMT
Organization: On the Brew.

In referenced article, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>I would like a chance to point out that I decided to take on a somewhat
>tongue-in-cheek devil's advocate position after watching the charges
>against Americans go from fairly solid to incredibly outrageous over
>a 2-3 day period.

This I agree with.  Gary manipulated his respondents into several untenable
positions.  That often happens when peoples buttons are deliberately pushed
hard.

> By the way, I am Liberal, support the pro-choice movt., believe in 
>liberal immigration policies, etc. etc.. etc.

I see nothing in Gary's postings over the years to make this caricature of
a position any more believeable than the last diametrically opposed one.

What I do have in my archive, is an email from him which he wrote over four
years ago.  In it he also claimed exactly opposing views to those which he
was being heavily attacked for in this very newsgroup.

The cap-in-hand tone of that email is exactly like the above, and the
posted exchange with many of the same players, was just as extreme.

Which of these two personalities is the real Gary Newel (or should that be
three, there's his pretence to be his wife that we've also heard about)?

Does he maintains them all simultaneously, perhaps?

Who cares, it's really of little interest.  What is clear is that a point
"proven" by manipulating and provoking the participants into extreme
positions is bogus and an insult to those attempting to present sincere
opinions.

He claims to be a Devil's advocate.  I beg to differ.  It's normal to take
that position with sincerity, openness, and respect for your opponents.
I've never seen evidence of any of these attributes in any of his
"contributions".

I stand by my earlier conclusion - "Piss off, Gary" - we don't need this
sort of deliberate agravation.
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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Who lived in Great Britain before the Kelts?
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:12:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.Bw0np5.GL5
Organization: Indiana University

In article <D8m6RB7w165w@netlink.cts.com> lionhart@netlink.cts.com (Jackie Zucconi) writes:

>  Would these Belgic tribes be the famous "beeker people" that's I've 
>heard about (oh so long ago)? If memory serves me right they were called 
>"Beeker people" because the only remains archeologists found were 
>earthenware beekers.

Because they had beeks? 9-)






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From: ljb@parkcity.dr.att.com (BLO54620-BonhamLJ(DR2194)240)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Wanted: Demonstration ideas
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:44:08 GMT

Try dumping some tea (or other goods) made in England into a body of water.  It
worked for us.

Sorry couldn't resist the opportunity.  Just a little Celtic gallows humor.


I would suggest that a demonstration, while probably gathering some media
attention, would be somewhat counter productive because most Americans are bored
stiff with all the public whining done by fringe groups here and in Europe.  I'm not
saying you don't have a valid cause, just that you'll probably be ignored by most
of the people you want to reach.

You have a difficult challenge.  You want to publicize your cause but don't want
to piss everybody off by going the Marxist bombthrowing route that the IRA lunies
have taken.  I mean who wants to be just "another terrorist"?  A peaceful march
or picket line is one way to voice your opinion.  One of the best ways is to just
get aquainted with delegates and their family/friends and show them that you're
real people and not a bunch of nuts.  To do peacfully what you want to do takes
years, even decades, and requires the gentle persuation of everyday people.  Look
at the American Black civil rights movement.  It required over two decades of
gentle proding to change government policy and public opinion.  The work of
Martin L. King has been better remembered than all the bomb throwing radicals put
together.  Again I urge you to persuade rather than force your opinions.  To
quote Shakespeare, "When levity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentler
gamester has the fore-hand advantage."
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Celts-Christianity-Catholicism
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:55:36 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) wrote:
> The claim that the Celts were converted from paganism through
> violence [...] is smug, superior and insulting.

And rather probably true.  The story of Mad King Sweeney (written by an
Irish Christian in the Middle Ages) begins with an all-out battle between
Christian and pagan forces.  It doesn't seem like something the author
would have made up out of thin air, does it?

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re:  SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:21:13 GMT

In article <8OCT92.01104730@enh.nist.gov> downey@enh.nist.gov writes:
>
>
|In article <1992Oct7.184316.24102@nlm.nih.gov| neve@nlm.nih.gov writes:
||Given Catholicism's history of backwardness on social issues, and in particular
||those relating to women (a matter about which Ms. O'Conner is well qualified
||to have an opinion) , the attacks do not seem out of place.
|
|odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) responds: 
|||  Okay:  It would not be inappropriate, therefore, for me to go to India to
|||  kill and eat a sacred cow simply because I'm a well-qualified hamburger-
|||  eater (and the folks who worship cows are just backward people anyway)?

|What is absurd is the above analogy!  There is no comparison between being a
|hamburger connoisseur and a woman's right to control her own reproduction and
|her own life, both of which the Catholic church has had a stranglehold on for
|centuries.

Well supposing, instead, that you decide to protest againt the 
caste system, discrimination against women (_quite_ prevalent 
in rural India) etc. Would it still be OK to attack the sym-
bols of Hinduism in the above manner?




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