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From: am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: God must HATE the Rangers!
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:37:52 GMT
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>Locusts?  Plagues?  Earthquakes?  Armageddon?  When I die, I 
>expect to hear the chant "1940" coming from behind the Pearly
>Gates!!!
> 
>-Dan Lyddy

Really?  I expect to hear a major discussion of whether "The Save" by
Frank Pietrangelo in last year's playoffs was luck or talent.  Isn't
that the most burning question in hockey today?  Oh, wait. I forgot
about whether or not Ulf Samuelsson meant to injure Cam Neely.  

Look at the Rangers situation this way -- Messier will have yet another
year to prove his worth and it will be a hell of a lot of fun (again)
for Ranger fans and just plain hell for Penguin fans.  Either that, or his
"replacement player" will have to do the job.  Mighty big skates to
fill, don't you think?
From: nk0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brennan Kraje)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: NEED CAPS/PENS TIX
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:54:58 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    I am looking for a ticket or two to one on the first two PENS/CAPS
playoff games here in Pittsburgh.  Anybody wishing to sell some at a
reasonable price, please e-mail me @ nk0s or call 361-0730 (if not home,
please leave message on answering machine).

    Thanks to anyone who can provide any help...

                                                    - Brennan Kraje
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVan PRItchard)
Subject: Re: HNIC (was: Toronto Maple Leafs)
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:03:57 GMT

gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:

>shayne@cs.mcgill.ca (Lydia MANCINI) writes:
>>ash@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (David Ash) writes:
>>
>>>I can blame Leafs management for this, but I can also blame HNIC for 
>>>not televising the Leafs, and the NHL for not putting any more teams 
>>>in Ontario until now.
>>
>>The Leafs aren't the only team that they've screwed over.     
>>HNIC's broadcasting basically sucks. 
>>They have a monopoly, so I don't think things will get any better.

>[n.b., Quoted out of order, but not out of context.]

>Are you guys serious???  Those two teams *own* HNIC (and Les Habs own
>La Soiree unless they're idle that night).  During the Oilers/Flames
>years of the 80's, the most common complaint I had heard was that
>their games were not shown even if two hot teams on a roll were facing
>each other.  How many of you grumble over a Laffs-Whalers game knowing
>that a Flames-Oilers rumble was happening at the same time?  

>If anything, the partitioning of HNIC into more regional broadcasts
>gave the West a breather, to see some Jets/Oilers/Flames games, and
>double-headers that were only introduced recently meant that Canuck
>home games can also be seen outside of B.C. now and again.  And the
>Nordiques are still locked out of Saturday nights, only getting some
>national airtime on Sunday afternoons when they can get it.  TSN has
>shown a number of Canucks-Nordiques games this year (from newspapers
>that get down to me), but this is still not the same as begin on The
>Institution.  Even now, saturday night is seen by most Canadians as
>the night for the Maple Leafs and/or the Canadiens.  That's why it's
>even more imperative for the other five franchises to get their games
>on cable the rest of the week, even by pulling down their road games
>from SCA if they can't afford to send a local broadcaster on the road.

What he said.  

=================== 
Evan Pritchard ---- Number 1, 3 or 4, depending on the hockey pool  

epritcha@psych.uiuc.edu  [alternatively  EVAN33@uiucvmd.bitnet ]
From: IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (the DM)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: BRUINS: Another winning season...
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:18:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92106.201807IO11330
Organization: University of Maine System

If I am not mistaken I believe this is the twenty third consecutive season
above "500"!  I may be wrong but I know its in the twenty's and no, No other
professional sports team in any league can match it!!!   Watch out buffalo
The new and Improved bruins are ready to steam roll the sabres out of the
playoffs in the first round again   (when was the last time the sabres made
it out of the first round??)     B's is six!!!!
                                                    Patrick Ellis
From: jwodziak@ulthar.nyser.net (John Wodziak)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL playoff
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:38:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: wpi.1992Apr9.233811.21031
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <1992Apr9.054841.24990@unixg.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>In article <PTeViB3w164w@cellar.org> darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
>>X68305@BARILVM.BITNET writes:
>>
>>> Israelli (sp?) Fan asking for info deleted 
>> 
>Sorry, he who's from Israel, but you just missed it. The Stanley Cup
>final's final game was last weekend. It came down to Vancouver Canucks
>vs New York Rangers. Last Sunday was the 7th game of the best of 7
>games final series. They went into the last game 3 games a piece.
>It was scoreless right to double overtime. But within the double
>overtime period, Pavel Bure finally had a break away and squeezed
>it in right between the pads. Vancouver won 4 games to 3 in a 1 to
>0 double overtime final game and took the Stanley Cup home. Pavel
>Bure was of course the MVP (most valuable player).
>
>Thomas.
>
 Ummm. Thomas I think you got that wrong it was Tony Amonte in Triple overtime
who scored the winner for the Rangers. You undoubtably didn't see the refs
call that one back after looking at the replay. It seems that Pavel's foot 
entered the crease about a millimeter before the puck. So for the First time 
since 1940(AHHHHHHH) THE CUP is at home in MSG!!!!

>Disclaimer: NOT! :)
   I guess I have to support the disclaimer!

jwodziak

(Look I'm A Ranger Fan. In order to claim this (dubious) distinction you have
to be able to fantisize a whole lot about one day seeing the cup in the Garden
Because you know something like this godamn F****** strike will come down and
ruin the next great chance we have at winning the Cup. In about 2040)
From: richardg@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Richard Grimmett)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:28:03 GMT
Subject: Re: WHL playoffs update
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey


Absolutely!  It was a great game, much better than the mediocre effort
the Chiefs put forward Friday.  Except for Bure, friday was a major
dissappointment.

The Sunday game started out with the Chief's clearly pressing the T-Birds,
although they only scored two in the first period, they could easily have
had 5.  Osgood looked very slow in the first, and downright pitiful in the
second.  He gave up three soft goals, and the game was over.  Seattle
seemed to be ready to get on the bus.

Bure has always impressed, he's the kind of hockey player you'd pay good
money to watch, but he's also learned the WHL style of play and is finding
the way to play, much the way Whitney did last year.  He's a real talent.

There is also a new Chief that just came up the last few weeks, and he 
looks tough.  His name is Jason Padollin (sp?) and although he just 
turned 16, he's 6'1'' and still growing.  He can skate, and was one goal
short of a hat trick on Sunday.

Oh, since this is Wednesday, I might as well mention that the T-Birds won
last night 4-1.  Tonite is do or die for the Chiefs.  I'm not that concerned
for I don't think they could get by Kamloops this year anyway.  Next year,
however, they should be really tough and in 2 years, if they can keep these
guys together, they should be headed for the cup.

Richard Grimmett
From: cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI)
Subject: Consecutive seasons over .500
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:25:16 GMT

In article WHATEVER, Dan writes:
>I noticed with last night's tie, the Bruins have 81 points,
>making 1991-92 a guaranteed .500-plus season.  Someone in the
>know please tell me (1) how many consecutive winning seasons this
>makes for the Bruins, and (2) whether any other hockey team (or
>any other pro sports team) can match the Bruins' consecutive 
>winning season record.
>
>-Dan Lyddy
>-UMass at Amherst

Well, my records only go up to 1982-83, so we'll assume they've been over-.500
every year since then.
This would mean they've been a winning club since the 1967-68 season.
This also means they've made the playoffs every year since 1967-68, which
is a record for ALL sports, I think.

BTW, they had 44 points in 70 games the year before.  Is there a reason
for the 40-point increase they had from one year to the next?
Is the reason Bobby Orr, by any chance?

Now for my daily dose of pro-Habs propaganda...   :-)

1)  1950-51 was the last year the Canadiens were sub-.500 !!!!!!
    And they made it to the Cup finals that year!!!

2)  In 1969-70 they had 92 points in 76 games, yet they missed the playoffs
    due to a goal-differential that wasn't as good as the team they were
    tied with.  (that caused a rule change which I won't get into now...)
    If you don't count that year, they have made the playoffs EVERY season
    since 1947-48 !!!!!
    Talk about consistency!!!

--Dave
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: ARBOGASTW@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: Perfect record??
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:02:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.031951.23515@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:
>>
>The Rangers won this year's President's Cup with a 50-25-5 record;
>just out of curiosity, what was the *worst* season points winner 
>in an 80 game season? (-;

The Caps won only eight games and tied just 5 in their first year for a 
total of 21 points.  And if that's not the record for worst point total, I 
pity the team, it's players, and their fans that had to endure it.  

1974-75 may seem like a long time ago, but for fans who've been there from 
the start, it's hard for us to forget. In a lot of ways it was fun, but in 
most ways it was beyond belief.

Congrats to the Sharks.  Best of luck to the Senators and Lightning.  Nobody 
should have to endure something like the Caps first year.  And the thought 
of anything worse is beyond belief.  Perhaps it's so, though.

Warren
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak CHHABRA)
Subject: Re: Consecutive seasons over .500
Reply-To: dchhabra@stpl.UUCP (Deepak CHHABRA)
Organization: Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 21:04:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.192516.28767@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:
>In article WHATEVER, Dan writes:
>>I noticed with last night's tie, the Bruins have 81 points,
>>making 1991-92 a guaranteed .500-plus season.  Someone in the
>>know please tell me (1) how many consecutive winning seasons this
>>makes for the Bruins, and (2) whether any other hockey team (or
>>any other pro sports team) can match the Bruins' consecutive 
>>winning season record.
>>
>>-Dan Lyddy
>>-UMass at Amherst
>
>Well, my records only go up to 1982-83, so we'll assume they've been over-.500
>every year since then.
>This would mean they've been a winning club since the 1967-68 season.
>This also means they've made the playoffs every year since 1967-68, which
>is a record for ALL sports, I think.
>
>BTW, they had 44 points in 70 games the year before.  Is there a reason
>for the 40-point increase they had from one year to the next?
>Is the reason Bobby Orr, by any chance?
>
>Now for my daily dose of pro-Habs propaganda...   :-)
>
>1)  1950-51 was the last year the Canadiens were sub-.500 !!!!!!
>    And they made it to the Cup finals that year!!!
>
>2)  In 1969-70 they had 92 points in 76 games, yet they missed the playoffs
>    due to a goal-differential that wasn't as good as the team they were
>    tied with.  (that caused a rule change which I won't get into now...)
>    If you don't count that year, they have made the playoffs EVERY season
>    since 1947-48 !!!!!
>    Talk about consistency!!!
>
>--Dave

I hate to be the one to dispute pro-Habs propaganda, but in '83-'84 the 
Canadiens finished with 75 pts. in 80 games.  Thus began Serge Savard's
5-year restructuring plan that only took 2 since they won the Cup in 
'85-'86.  What is noteworthy is that in '83-'84 they advanced to the 
Conference final, meaning that they *thrashed* Boston in the DSF.  
BTW I heard that the NY Yankees had 39 consecutive winning seasons
and that this is a pro-sports record.  Any confirmation?

(even though they had that one sub-.500 season),
HABS RULE!!!!!
From: sbuckley@fraser.sfu.ca (Stephen Buckley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: The end is near
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:19:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes:

>The owners will meet at New York's Park Plaza hotel on Monday at 9am EST
>and decide whether to accept the player's latest proposal. Why the owners
>can't meet this weekend is anyone's guess? 

  why?  THEY'RE *OWNERS* !!!	
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From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Subject: The Fat Lady has laryngitis
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:29:27 GMT


In case anyone missed it, it ain't over yet folks.

Apparrently, when NHL spokesman Bill Wilkerson said that the 3pm deadline
was the dealine for the season, he was not speaking for all of the owners
and probably should not have said it.

Anyone else see the live coverage of his latest press conference after the
big conference call yesterday?  It was priceless, almost like a Bob and Ray
routine.  "I'm a member of the SAGTTPAOA, the Slow At Getting to the Point
Association of ... oh did I mention that I'm here to make an announcement on
behalf of the SAGTTPAOA?  I have an announcement which is as follows ...
I also have a theory about the brontosaurus which is as follow, yes here it
is.  What I am about to say is my theory, which I have been authorized to
make public on behalf of ... "

Wilkie announced that the 3pm deadline was only the deadline for the owner's
latest offer and was decidedly mum on the rest of the season.

So anyway, Goody and Ziggy are meeting today in NYC (Bob was in Toronto
yesterday) over a glass of spilt milk to discuss matters yet again.  There
are all sorts of rumours, but the most interesting ones have to do with the
possibility of the players going back to work on the weekend and agreeing
to let all outstanding matters be settled by an arbitrator over the summer.

My best guess is that something will give and there will be a resumption of
play this year.  But hey, what do I know?

-- 
Mike Godfrey   	           		"Either that wallpaper goes, or I do."
Dept of Comp Sci, UofT      	         	-- allegedly, the last words
migod@turing.toronto.edu			   of Oscar Wilde
From: lyddy@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: God must HATE the Rangers!
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:49:01 GMT

God must HATE the Rangers!  I mean, I was actually starting
to believe that Messier would lead the Rangers all the way
this year, and Wham! the players go on strike.  What's going
to happen next time the Rangers become legitimate contenders?
Locusts?  Plagues?  Earthquakes?  Armageddon?  When I die, I 
expect to hear the chant "1940" coming from behind the Pearly
Gates!!!

-Dan Lyddy
:}  :}  :}  :}  :}
From: jdelorey@jdelorey.stfx.ca (J. DeLorey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: test, please ignore
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:24:34 GMT
Organization: stfx

test. please ignore
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: A clear rink?
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:33:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr7.013330.25166
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


I remember seeing last year's NCAA phinal, and I noticed the bottom part
of the boards were clear too!  What rink was this?  Also, is this unique
to this rink?  I didn't think these types of rinks were allowed, because
it would be hard to see the puck.
-- 
ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu (Eric Rickin) or bu072@gnh-bauhaus.cts.com
Slap and Tickle... The Canadian National Sport
University of Michigan: Class of 1996
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: kristman@jupiter.csd.unb.ca (Dan Kristmanson)
Subject: Re: NHL Player + Goalie Stats
Organization: Computer Science, University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:23:33 GMT

Is it possible to get the NHL player and goalie stats mailed to me 
automatically ??

					Dan
					KRISTMAN@UNB.CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Oilers-Kings tiebreaker
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:17:22 GMT

farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Big Bri) writes:
>What are the tiebreakers for the Oilers-Kings?

The Jets clobbered the Oilers right after clobbering the Flames.
C'est tout! (-;

gld
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From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Subject: Re: No Anti-trust protection.. Big problem!
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:18:41 GMT


In a previous article, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) says:

>You seem to think that antitrust prohibits any joint ventures between
>competing companies, which isn't true; consider the recent IBM-Apple joint
>ventures.  It is not essential to have anti-trust exemption to have a
>professional sports league.  Not having anti-trust does tend to limit some
>of the powers of the league; you can run into difficulties prohibiting
>franchise moves, for example.  Another example is that the NFL has changed
>the rules on entering the draft rather than face a court challenge to the
>draft itself.

But theoretically, a draft should not exist.  Therefore, isn't the draft
then changing at the whim of anyone who threatens to sue?
>
>Sherri Nichols
>snichols@adobe.com
>

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Slap and Tickle... The Canadian National Sport
University of Michigan: Class of 1996
From: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Stueven)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL Season is over.
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:26:32 GMT
Reply-To: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gakbox.corp.sun.com

In article 27798@mcs.anl.gov, mwm@hera.aps.anl.gov (Michael W. McDowell) writes:
>>In article <17443.29e41d91@ecs.umass.edu> lyddy@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>>Hey, I dislocated my finger a few weeks ago playing street hockey.
>>Does that make me the current top expert on the net?
>>(My brother separated his shoulder in December after being checked into the
>> boards... maybe I better defer to him....)
>  I blew a knee out last session, let me know if I can help

I got a black eye from falling off a barstool watching a Sharks game...

Does that count?

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From: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Stueven)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Name That Goon!
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:29:15 GMT
Reply-To: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gakbox.corp.sun.com

In article 8977@unixg.ubc.ca, chrisl@ppc.ubc.ca (chris lynch) writes:
>In article <kup3pqINN93f@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Stueven) writes:
>|> Name a player who received two major penalties, two minor penalties,
>|> and two misconducts ON THE SAME PLAY.
>|> 
>Sounds likes Marty McSorley on a rampage....according to the Canuck radio
>broadcasters, he hit everyone on the ice but Gino. I think he was getting warmed
>up for Gino, but Coffey grabbed Gino. Adrian Plavsic danced (ie held on) with Marty
>for a two minute roughing penalty.  

Bingo!  He got 5 for fighting, 5 for a high stick, 2 for roughing, 2
for something else, a ten-minute misconduct, and a game misconduct last
night vs. Vancouver.  The TV announcers said it added up to 34
minutes...does a game misconduct count for 10?

>Marty didn't break any records though. According to the announcers, Randy Holt got 64
>minutes on the same play. Those were the good ole days?

Holy cow!

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From: cooper@beno.CSS.GOV (Dale Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Injury report before the playoffs
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:29:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA

In article <1992Apr15.124901.1@sask.usask.ca> chin@sask.usask.ca (Glenn Chin) writes:
>In article <719@ckgp.UUCP>, millis@ckgp.UUCP (Tom Millis) writes:
>> Can someone please post an updated injury report before the playoffs start.

>I trashed the latest injury report during the strike's darkest hours.  Did
>anyone keep a copy of the last report before the strike?  Off the top of my
>head, noteworthy changes are:

[stuff deleted]

>	- What is the status of Randy Burridge?

Burridge is expected to start tonite against the Pens.  He feels good to go 
and hopes to get back into scoring shape (hopefully for the Caps).


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