HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Bryan J. Blumberg <bjb@macsch.com>
Subject: Re: Hi. I'm Dave.
Organization: Systems Integration Branch
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
     <1992Jul30.070446.5973@reed.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:52:44 GMT



In article  David Thompson, dthompso@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:

>Hello, my name is David Thompson, and I think I speak for homosexuals
>worldwide when I say, golly-gee-gosh!  Sometimes I get so mad I could
>just stomp my foot!  People today are so homophobic it's terrible.  Just
>as the color of someone's skin doesn't matter, neither should who a
person
>chooses to boink or be boinked by. Man, woman, both, or neither.
>Gay Rights Forever!  Wake up America!


Oh, golly-gee-gosh!  Another David Thompson.  So this one is from
Denver University.

There is also a David L. Thompson, dlt@vax.csun.edu, who is from
California State University at Northridge.

Please don't get the two mixed up.  O.K.?

========================================
Bryan  J. Blumberg, The MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation
815 Colorado Boulevard, Los Angeles, California  90041-1777
(213) 259-4914, B_BLUMBERG@MACSCH.COM
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: the b-word
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:35:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.173519.24212@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>>>Nelson is *TALL*,
>>Very, and quite cute, too.
>
>Seeing as he was captured almost immediately by a tenor...

I am informed by the tenor and the captured that the tenor is a baritone.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Record Collections (was: Re: Re: Spanish spelling)
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:31:51 GMT

In article <62498@cup.portal.com> Minotaur@cup.portal.com (Frank - Swilling) writes:
>
>[Jess Anderson writes:]
>
>>In article <1992Jul20.131906.19307@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
>>ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
>>
>>>Next we'll move on to music, where the great and mighty will whip out
>>>their *REALLY* *BIG* *COLLECTION* and compare sizes.
>>
>>What a clever lad!  May I open the bids at 9,000 records?
>
>My CDs might be smaller than your records, but they're harder and
>they last just about forever.

While I own a CD player and have a modest collection (try fifteen), I
prefer my records, although I'm sure they don't quite compare to Jess'
*BIG* *BLACK* *VINYL* pieces.

My records aren't going to last forever, but I'm sure as hell not
going to be listening to them forever.  I couldn't really give a rat's
ass if my They Might Be Giants records live longer than I do (although
Joni Mitchell's BLUE has gained near-mythic proportions in my mind).

I like my records to grow with me.  They are living things.  The skip
that STILL CRAZY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS has developed near the end of
the first chorus of "You're Kind" is like a wart which I can't help
but run my finger over ten or twelve times a day.  I have inherited a
copy of the Dave Brubeck group's WE'RE ALL TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME
AGAIN from my father.  The hisses and pops are as comfortable to me as
the folds of my lover's flesh, or the wiriness of his hair.

Maybe I'd better stop here.  I'm sure y'all don't want to hear about
the long, hard climax of ATOM HEART MOTHER, which leaves you gasping
for breath at its conclusion...

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You mean there are TWO of you, Pierce?
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  God help us all."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Major Charles Emerson Winchester III
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: I HAVE THREADING
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:57:42 GMT

mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor) writes:

> bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins) writes:
> > mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor) gushes:
> > > I am so pleased with this new reader.  It threads.
> > > Joy.  Bliss.  I can tackle soc.motss again.
> > and here we thought it would was hard to make Mike happy....
> If it's hard, Mike is happy anyway.
        really? wow. anything else you need/want? (he types with a smile on his
        face)
> > (what- no auto-flame function?)
> What can you expect from MSDOS?
        um....for her to finally admit to that affair with MISSESDOS?

growf.
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: HIV- cases of full blown AIDS?
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:22:09 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul20.092306.51548@qut.edu.au> bellmann@qut.edu.au writes:
>  I heard in the radio news that there are (nineteen?) cases of full blown
>AIDS in the USA that test HIV negative. Six of these cases received transfusions
>after blood banks had started to be screened for HIV. I thought I would find
>something about this in this newsgroup already, as this is a major piece of
>information, and probably signals the end of the illusions about HIV being the
>cause of AIDS.

"AIDS" stands for Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.  It's the name for a
set of symptoms.  If a new virus is discovered which can also cause the
same set of symptoms, that doesn't at all prove that HIV doesn't cause some
cases of AIDS, perhaps 99.9 percent.  

>I'm not surprised at all. I remember an article that made it
>to the cover of Discover, I think in April '88, asking: "Have we nagged the
>real virus?". Dusenberg has been pointing out for years that HIV, for several
>reasons, is very unlikely to be the cause of AIDS but perhaps a concomitant
>phenomenon.

He hasn't managed to convince very many people in the scientific community.

-- 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
From: brian@odie.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet)
Subject: Re: On Banning Private Discrimination
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:46:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.230852.4124@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
>to the size of your dick, for another.

I can icture this... [done in a rasist manner to sorta make a point
You man I can take the brothers being stuck in de getto and all dat man.
being arrested and beat up by cops. 
But next time whity says I probable got de bigger dick den him
I'll kick his ass... :)
Geez most guys would love for people to assume they have a bigger dick
except for Dr. Ruth and ann landers, who would lose half their business
I don't mean to make light of the other comments, [they are deleted as I am
not refering to them] but being accused of bigger dick size isn't a bad thing,
after all how many of those letters to the porn mags say, well I took
my 3 inch dick out....

BTW as far as I know there is no prof that dick size differs, has anyone actually tested this.. 

Xref: sparky soc.motss:32303 talk.politics.misc:35568 alt.individualism:4485 alt.activism:13346
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: mango juice (was Re: crossposting is bad)
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:03:08 GMT

nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>Having a sexy man lick mango juice off of your thighs at a nude beach
>creates the potential for embarassment.

"potential"?  Hon, if you resisted _that_, you're a better man than I am.

--
Ellen Keyne Seebacher            elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
From: rbuchanan@vitalink.com (Rick Buchanan)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
Subject: Re: On Banning Private Discrimination
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:08:19 GMT
Reply-To: rbuchanan@vitalink.com (Rick Buchanan)
Organization: Vitalink Communications Corp.  (Standard disclaimer of course)

In article <nm2dugk@fido.asd.sgi.com>, dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:

> God I hate arguing with libertarians, they are bozos with no reading
> comprehension.

This makes TWO groups about whom you have unfairly generalized.  I guess
if White Het Males are thugs, and libs can't read, that makes me an
illiterate thug.

Of course if anyone around here DARED to say "God I can't stand those
gays, they're all such...." you'd be the first to say that your point
about being a victim has been demonstrated.

You are a pathetic hypocrite.  PLEASE add me to your kill file.

   ---   Rick

       ***   I think, therefore I can't be a socialist   ***
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: Harry Foster <foster@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: P-FLAG national offices
Originator: foster@magnum.convex.com
Reply-To: foster@convex.COM (Harry Foster)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:59:45 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Jul24.133018.8957@bradley.bradley.edu> larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton) writes:
>
>   Does anyone have or know the address/phone of the national
>   offices of P-FLAG?
>
PFLAG
P.O. BOX 27605
Washington, D.C.  20038

202-638-4200
-- 
Harry Foster                                        foster@convex.com 
	"The test of courage comes when we are in the minority;
	 the test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority."
							-Ralph W. Sockman
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
Subject: Mystery Syndrome: The only mystery was why everyone got excited.
Summary: Report from World AIDS Conference, by William Check.
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:00:06 GMT

   Since this has been the subject of MUCH discussion on alt.sex and
soc.motss recently, I snagged this article out of the World AIDS
Conference Daily Newsletter, which can be found in its complete form on
sci.med.aids

   Reprinted without permission.

>Mystery syndrome: the only mystery was why everyone got excited  
>by William Check

>What was rumoured to be  the beginning of a new phase to the AIDS 
>epidemic turned out to be a rare and vaguely defined immune 
>deficiency syndrome with no evidence for transmission. At a 
>Recent Reports session specially convened yesterday, Dr Jeffrey 
>Laurence, of Cornell Medical College, described five patients with 
>progressive immune deficiency and no evidence of infection with 
>HIV or any other agent. A report on the cases just appeared in 
>Newsweek, prompting Dr James Curran, director of HIV/AIDS at 
>the US National Centers for Disease Control, to ask "What does 
>Newsweek know that we don't know?" 

>Following Laurence's presentation, Curran described six similar 
>cases reported to the CDC over the past few years. Other scientists 
>added sporadic instances of HIV-negative patients with moderate-
>to-severe immune deficiency and no evidence for HIV infection. 
>Curran concluded, "I think [this syndrome] is real, but I don't know 
>if it's new." He also said that it must be uncommon. Laurence 
>agreed that it is "exceedingly rare". The two also agreed that these 
>are not AIDS cases.

>Laurence defined his cases as "a progressive, sustained immuno-
>suppression." 

>Two patients' CD4 counts had dropped to 270 and 280 and 
>continued to fall. Three had very low CD4 counts and opportunistic 
>infections - cytomegalovirus colitis, Kaposi's sarcoma, pneumocystis 
>carinii pneumonia, and herpes zoster. A few had known risk factors 
>for HIV transmission.  

>Most cases reported to CDC have been similar to Laurence's. CDC 
>did not report these cases because too many questions remained 
>and "We wanted to answer them through the usual scientific 
>channels," Curran said.  

>Addressing fears that the syndrome is due to a variant of HIV not 
>detected by current tests, Dr James Allen, of CDC, said, "I think you 
>can rest assured that the blood supply is safe in countries that have 
>a screening system in place."

>"Should we have reported a year ago when we first had three 
>cases?" Curran asked the AIDS researchers. "Yes", came the 
>resounding cries. He agreed to write up CDC's information and to 
>issue a call for additional cases. 

-- 
Elf Sternberg    __   |     I have looked into the abyss, and the abyss
elf@halcyon.com  \/   | has looked into me.  Neither liked what we saw.
elf@polari.online.com |                              - Brother Theodore
From: stevenso@Apple.COM (David Stevenson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Lost Language of Cranes question
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:03:59 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) answers what
>nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) asks:
>>
>>There's one niggling little thing that's getting to me, though. What
>>do the various language vignettes have to do with the story of the
>>family?
>
>In the book, the only function I could see was to (1) give the book an
>interesting name a la "The Crying of Lot 49" and (2) provide a vacuous
>metaphor in an otherwise bathetic and overly-turgid melodrama.
>
You neglect the obvious:  (0) increase the word count to a more nearly
publishable quantity.
From: waveland@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Holeman)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Clinton in Seattle
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:05:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul27.230556.14946
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Jul26.231006.29685@u.washington.edu> tardis@u.washington.edu
      writes:

> His answers to these last question frighten me. He appears
> to only support Gay and Lesbians only as the absence of discrimation.
> We then are no longer productive members of American society.

Not that the government has EVER perceived us as such, mind you.  

I neither ask nor expect the majority in this country to love us.  
All I want is a fair deal.  Yes, Clinton offers the bare minimum
in that regard, but it's still a step forward.

> His answer that he does not support affirmative descriptions
> of gay and lesbians in schools and twice mentioning
> it is not a question of acceptance make me feel he is limiting
> in his support to like, "Just don't tell me if you are gay
> or not.  That way I won't discrimate against you. I won't have to
> think if I will accept it or not.  But if I know, then I
> won't discrimate against you to limit your *productivity*" Basically,
> you don't have to accept their orientation, just don't discriminate
> against them. I dunno... his answers tarnished him to me.
 
So he's no Urvashi Vaid.  So what?  If he gets in and lifts the
ban, he'll have done a zillion times more for queers than George
Bush has.

-- 
Eric Holeman                  waveland@milton.u.washington.edu

"The number of people who expected Mrs. Hutchinson to win a          
 Bendix washer would amaze you."--Shirley Jackson
From: rgrimsley@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: All Night All Day All Family Values
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:56:38 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City


The local Fundy-AM radio outlet, KCCV has received an
OK from the FCC to build and FM station.  The Kansas City
Star reports that the president of the broadcasting company,
Dick Bott says he will install "a family value format".   
"Probably we would be doing essentially a lot of music", Bott
says.  I guess this means they won't be taking requests for
the Village People...
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
From: rjbodkin@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Ronald Bodkin)
Subject: Re: On Banning Private Discrimination
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science
	<1992Jul23.222058.24928@ncar.ucar.edu>
	<1992Jul25.230012.3845@queernet.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:21:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.230012.3845@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
   BZZZZZT!  Wrong.

   Non-SWMs are indoctrinated to understand the SWM experience from birth;...

	How nice, to reduce the complexity of individual life
experiences by a combination of sexual, racial and gender categories
("THE SWM experience").  Not too long ago, this might be taken to be
discriminatory: propagating stereotypes.  Perhaps consistency is a
virtue that those who work for one cause "every minute of the day"
must abandon?

		Ron
Xref: sparky soc.motss:32220 rec.arts.tv:15177 rec.arts.tv.uk:4434 rec.arts.tv.soaps:26099 soc.bi:9391 alt.politics.homosexuality:5118
From: berger@urvax.urich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.tv.soaps,soc.bi,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:30:20 GMT
Reply-To: berger@urvax.urich.edu
Organization: University of Richmond

In article <1992Jul21.154700.8340@CS.ORST.EDU>, aj@CS.ORST.EDU (AJ) writes:
>
>Roseanne's boss on "Roseanne" was gay (played by ....what was his name???
>Martin Moll maybe?).
>
>martin mull. he was a fairly popular cult comedian in the 70's.
 very national lampoon. and his lover on "roseanne" is played by
 michael des barres, who used to be in the glitter band silverhead
 (also in the 70's--let's date myself....) and was one of the students
 in "to sir with love"--i think he wore sunglasses a lot). and his
 ex-wife is pamela des barres (formerly miss pamela of the GTO's), who
 wrote the wonderful groupie memoir "i'm with the band."

 sorry, i didn't mean to sound like a know-it-all.

 scott
 
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: doctor@watson (Bao-Phac Do (doctor zero))
Subject: Re: Engineer bashing
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, lab. INFO
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:35:18 GMT

>jefu@akbar.nmt.edu (Jeff Putnam) writes:
> 
> Sometimes I think we need pre-college.  Two years to fill the
> gaps and undo the damage that high schools leave.  Basics like
> how to read and write, simple science and math...
> 

like the CEGEP program in Quebec ?

d0c
-- 
 ______  Bao Phac (Paul) Do  | Silence = Death
 \    /  P.O. Box 655        | Straight men suck, but we suck better !
  \  /   Mont-Royal, Quebec  | QUEERS BASH BACK! 
   \/    H3P 3G4  CANADA     |                  -=> doctor@info.polymtl.ca
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
From: walsh@starbd.enet.dec.com (Thomas Walsh)
Subject: Re: On Banning Private Discrimination
Reply-To: walsh@starbd.enet.dec.com (Thomas Walsh)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:43:40 GMT


In article <1992Jul24.212423.7178@news2.cis.umn.edu>, elliott@a8.ima.umn.edu (Frank Elliott) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.203833.28750@decvax.dec.com> walsh@starbd.enet.dec.com (Thomas Walsh) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Jul24.171336.24814@amhux2.amherst.edu>, twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>>In article <1992Jul22.234223.26537@pony.Ingres.COM> rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger Leuthner) writes:
>>>
>>>>It is the attempts to pile a thousand years of inequality upon the shoulders
>>>>of those white hetero males who are alive today that is a pile of dung.
>>>
>>>No one is attempting to pile a thousand years of inequality upon the
>>>shoulders of these people.
>>>
>>>They are attempting to pile the inequality that exists here and now
>>>upon their shoulders.
>>>
>>
>>Of course whether or not they had any part in the creation of that inequality 
>>is totally irrelevant. Is that what your saying?? 
>>
>
>Are you saying the fact that swm's benefit unfairly from this inequality is
>of no importance?  Isn't receiving stolen goods a criminal act if the recipient
>is aware that they were stolen?

But thats exactly the point.  MOST white males do not benefit from inequality.
Many white males are poor and most have no political power whatsoever.  You 
would seek to punish them for the actions of those with real power.  Even if 
they believe in and fight for equal opportunity you want to " pile the 
inequality that exists here and now upon their shoulders".  Instead of 
attacking those who actually are responsible for inequality, you take the easy
way out and blame a group of people simply because of their sex and race.

--
___________________________________________________________________________
Thomas Walsh 		walsh@via.enet.dec.com		Nashua, NH

:opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employers
Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.sex.motss
From: golds_ss@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Stuart S Goldstone)
Subject: Re: Hi. I'm Dave.
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:02:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.050437.4336@menudo.uh.edu> elee74l@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.170804.11934@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
>dthompso@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Thompson) writes:
>>
>>Hello, my name is David Thompson, and I think I speak for homosexuals
>>worldwide when I say, golly-gee-gosh!  Sometimes I get so mad I could
>>just stomp my foot!  People today are so homophobic it's terrible.  Just
>>as the color of someone's skin doesn't matter, neither should who a person
>>chooses to boink or be boinked by. Man, woman, both, or neither.
>>Gay Rights Forever!  Wake up America!
>
>Hi.  I assume this is your first posting; I welcome you.  


	Hmmm, am I the ONLY one who thinks that the original poster was
being a little less than sincere?  "golly-gee-gosh"??
-- 
         Stuart S. Goldstone	      |      "Christianity is like a shoe;
Internet: golds_ss@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu |	       if you don't fit into it,
       BITNET: golds_ss@jhuvms	      |	        we cut your toes off!"
         GEnie: S.GOLDSTONE1          |
From: gklein@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Gary Klein, bear at heart)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: B-word: False Analogy to "Good/Bad Jews"
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:58:11 EST
Organization: Carlson Library, Univ of Toledo

In article <1992Jul23.055357.3658@wam.umd.edu>, jns@wam.umd.edu 
   (J. N. Shaumeyer) writes:

> Frustratingly familiar, for all the reasons you give:
> consider "good fag" vs. "bad fag", aka, Drag Queens
> and Hairy Butch Men in Totally Revealing Leather.

     I certainly WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER "Hairy Butch Men in Totally Revealing
Leather"

     Is that being distributed as this month's primary choice for The
Book-Of-The-Month Club?

     Inquiring (and drooling) librarians need to know!
-- 

                                               "Librarian, Leather bound"
Gary Klein,   Business Librarian,  (Univ of Toledo)           * * * * 
PO Box 12650                  Toledo OH  43606-0250            *   *   
(w): 419-537-2629      fac2813@uoft01                            *   
(h): 419-243-2740      fac2813@uoft01.utoledo.edu         B4 t+ w- g s+ k