From: doug@eng.umd.edu (Douglas N. Cohen)
Subject: Re: New newsgroup?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:40:40 GMT
Organization: hah!  we don't need no steenkin' organization!
Summary: 	-=-=-=-< advice, no humor >-=-=-=-
Followup-To: 	don't bother.....
Keywords: 	-=-=-=-< please pay attention >-=-=-=-
Cc: trwagner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu


In article <BxxxFB.4KA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> trwagner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ted Wagner) writes:

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>	I know, I know.  We need another newsgroup like we all

	no you don't... evidently!

>need an extra hole in our heads!  ;)  But, something I say
>was strange.  We have alt.personals and alt.personals.bondage.
>Yet, alt.personals *asks* that sex personals not be posted here.

	where did you *ever* get such a stupid concept....

	i am the keeper/present administrator of the FAQ.  i have been on
this group since the beginning.  obviously you have not read the FAQ very
carefully, if at all.  or perhaps you have confused that ACS with the
alt.personals.* newsgroup(s).....
	this is a common and irritating mistake.  ACS stands for anonymous
contact service, and is run by (now the only one on the a.p.*) d. wagner,
out of @cupid.sai.com.  you must mail a message to it to have it appear.
all that it does (after stripping the headers and 'sigs' is to post it
to alt.personals.* with the anonymous headers and 'sig'.  JUST AS ANYONE
ELSE WOULD, IF THEY POSTED IT THEMSELVES!!!
	ANYONE can post to alt.personals.* by using Pnews (or whatever
their system uses to post to newsgroups) or by using the follow-up or
reply commands.  you do not have to use the (restrictive) ACS, if you do
not want to, or find it restrictive, or wish to be an open and honest
poster. 
	ACS is overlaid on the a.p.* group(s) it is neither a part of it,
controlling it, or responsible for it, in *ANY* way!!!  neither does it
moderate it, police it, or have more than a moderate influence on it.
	in point of fact, they (almost all of the variations) have been
a major source of abuses of the internet/usenet systems, generally being
more of a headache for everyone, including the administrators of such
'services'.

	nobody *asks* that sex personals not be posted, unless it is a
person who has an objection to it on a personal level, and has voiced a
*personal* opinion.  there is *NO* moderator on that alt.personals.* 
groups!!!  there are guide lines, suggestions, and 'nettiquette' as to
content, but the actual *RULES* are few, and well documented!

	please!!!!  if you want another group (which we *really* *DON'T*
need, anyway!) that is fine, but you better get your facts straight.  your
reason is totally invalid.

	-=-=-> PLEASE READ THE FAQs *CAREFULLY* BEFORE YOU POST ANOTHER
	-=-=-> STUPID MESSAGE LIKE THE ONE YOU POSTED.  IF YOU NEED A
	-=-=-> COPY OF THE CURRENT ONE, (still evolving) I WILL BE HAPPY
	-=-=-> TO SEND IT.

	-=-=-> PLEASE STOP CONFUSING ACS WITH ALT.PERSONALS.*!!!
	-=-=-> PLEASE STOP PERPETRATING THIS MYTH AND STUPIDITY!!!

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>	Why not create alt.personals.sex?  This would hit those
>who don't want plain personals and those who DON'T want the kinky
>side but DO want a sexual relationship...
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>Or, does it exist and my site does not get it?

	you mean, you don't know?  did you even bother to check or ask,
or read the FAQ, before you spouted off?????  unbelievable....

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>Ted
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>Just a suggestion for you folks.  I really don't give a hoot and
>a hollar.... ;)

	the why did you hoot and hollar (incorrectly,) with a needless
and mis-informed post?  

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	another opinion, worth what you paid for it!

	(royally ticked off!)
	and, as always, i am/at:

             doug:  < doug@eng.umd.edu > : < doug@lpf.umd.edu >

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