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From: suresh@papaya.iss.nus.sg (Suresh Thennarangam - Research Scholar)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC BROTERHOOD - BOSNIA V/S SOMALIA
Reply-To: suresh@iss.nus.sg (Suresh Thennarangam - Research Scholar)
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:52:00 GMT

<> In article <1992Aug30.004401.17450@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:
<> >B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:
<> >
<> > Why are
<> >>the islamic governments of IRAN ,Pakistan, Bangladesh who
<> >>are all very vocal on Bosnia supply food and medicine
<> >>to Somalia or Islamic Brotherhood just stops at the gate
<> >>of Africa.
<> >
<> >>That only tells about total HYPOCRACY Of ISLAMIC BROTHERHOOD
<> >>and ISLAMIC Equality.
<> >
<> >>Regards,
<> >
<> >>bkumar
<> >
<> >
<> >
<> >What a good slap on the Pseudo Islamic Brotherhood.
<> >
<> >These Pseudo Islamic countries are active only for those Muslims who are 
<> >under trouble from other religious groups and not when they are killed
<> >by other Muslims or natural disaster.

This might well be true. Bangladesh regularly suffers from natural disasters
but the oil-rich Gulf and their Muslim brothers in Pakistan have done
precious little for them. I wonder though, if they would remain aloof 
should India or China invade Bangladesh.
 
<> >
<> >What major steps ISlamic countries have taken for Kurds before Gulf War?
<> >None.
<> >Because Kurds rights were deprived by fellow Muslims and not by a Christan
<> >country.
<> >It is wrong to critisize ISlamic countries on Black and White racism.

Yes, that is a different question altogether but I ask if the rest of 
Arabia would sit tight should Libya be struck by famine. IMHO the 
racism factor can't be discounted altogether, though there are no facts 
from BKumar in  this discussion so far to substantiate it.

It is interesting though that Israel grants entry  to black, brown
and yellow jews whether they are being persecuted for being Jewish
or not. Shouldn't  we applaud Israel for that ? 

<> >
<> >But it is 100% true that these Pseudo Islamic Countries'
<> >Pseudo Islamic Brotherhood become active only when they think
<> >**Islam is in danger** because of other religion.
<> >
<> >What a shame!!!
<> >What a shame!!!
<> >
>Bye
>Adil

Regards,




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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.kerala
From: sphilip@cs.ulowell.edu (Sheela B. Philip)
Subject: Re: sic gloria transit mundi [Was Re: Curious observation.]
Followup-To: bop@swlvx6.msd.ray.com
Keywords: Mundane matters.
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:34:55 GMT

>In article <1992Aug24.163013.9351@ulowell.ulowell.edu> (Ben Philip) writes:
>>
>>end up alienating everyone around you.  The best examples are the LTTE in
>>TamilNadu and closer to home, people like "manu", on the net, who advocate
>>seperatist and eliteist attitudes.  The best example of a people who try
>
>There is a big difference here... LTTE advocates violence whereas I don't!
>I guess that doesn't make any difference for closed minded people like
>you who can't entertain another point of view. Care to explain why or where
>I'm wrong, ie, why shouldn't Kerala separate from India?
>

My sincere apologies to you, Manu.  I did not mean to compare you to LTTE.
Actually that was not even intended to be posted. It was supposed to be a
private reply to a post.  At any rate, my extent of the comparison is limited
to the separatist movement afoot.  It is my opinion that Kerala will become
just another Banana Republic if it seperates from the Union. Anyway, there is
more validity to the claim of a seperate Travancore, Cochin, or Malabar than
for Kerala, which if I am not mistaken is a British invention. Where is this
splintering going to stop?  I am just afraid that it won't. It has all the
potential to degenerate into a mess worse than Yugoslavia. 

>>their best to integrate into the local culture, yet retain their cultural
>>identity is the Jew (Example: The Jews at Cochin).  There is a lot we can 
>>learn from them.
>
>You claim to be an expert on Jews in Cochin.. could you please clarify
>why most of them have left Cochin, esp the younger generation? Is it
>because they "integrated" too well?
>
>>Ben Philip

>Njan


No, I do not claim to be an expert on Jews in Cochin.  I was merely pointing
out the fact that they managed to retain their cultural identily for 2000
years while living in Cochin, and in other parts of the world, while being
active citizens of the respective communities that they lived in. As to whether
they chose to remain or leave when opportunity presented itself is irrelevant
to the discussion at hand.

Once again, my sincerest apologies.  I am not interested in flaming anyone;
only in having an ernest dialogue.

Ben Philip.


P.S.
Please direct all replies to bop@swlvx6.msd.ray.com.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 14:19:15 CDT
From: Savita Sahgal <U46723@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject:    Re: A Woman's face and the Moon

There's a ghazal that starts out:

     "Chaand me to daag hai,
      Aap me wo bhi nahin...
      Chaudvin ke chaand se badhkar
      hai chehra aapka......"
:-)
Savita.
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From: myneni@cs1.bradley.edu (Srinivasa Myneni)
Subject: LOOKING FOR SUNIL CHAKRAVARTHY NADELLA
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:59:03 GMT

Hi Netters, 

   This is on the behalf of a friend of mine.
   -----------------------------------------

   This dude Sunil has left for US on 14th of this month. He should
   have arrived at Louisiana Tech Univ latest by 17th. His parents 
   back home donot know the whereabouts or his contact number here.
   So they called his friend here to find about him. This guy tried
   and exhausted all his resources but could not locate this Sunil.  

   So please if any of you on the happens to know this guy please ask
   him to call back home immediately and then also contact the person
   mentioned below.

   Venkateswara Rao Malempati.
   Voice : 309-637-8368 .
   E-mail: vmalempa@bucs1.bradley.edu

   Thanx alot  in advance .
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   myneni@bucs1.bradley.edu.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: The net.person from Rourkela, RSP, I lost your e-mail add.
Organization: The Net-Anarchists of SCI, Inc.
              Flaming Homer Division.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:12:37 GMT

1] To the person from RSP, Rourkela,

   I lost your e-mail address in a machine crash over here,
   send me the address again if you will.
   To the rest of you, sorry for bothering you.
   Im not worthy, Im not worthy ..
   Well, you get the picture.

2] Regards.
   The sun shines after two days of miserable cold rain, here in 
   Boulder, Colorado. I missed lunch and had to eat curly fries to
   stay fueled. And coffee. Black with lots of sugar.
   Rajan Parrikar told me today we should spread more brown 
   jeans around here. I thought he meant the coloured cotton they 
   were growing down south. Maybe I am the last innocent Indian
   left in Continental America. Not counting Crazy Horse III and
   Wandering Smoke Dragon of the Cheyenne tribes.

   Well, that assauges my guilt, I have written something of value
   instead of just wasting bandwidth. :-)

3] Stay Cool.

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From: sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang)
Subject: Re: FAQ needed..
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:30:36 GMT

Munil A. Shah (mshah@cs.arizona.edu) wrote:
: Hi netters,
: 	I do not read this newsgroup very often, but
: whenever I read it, I find many articles inquiring
: about the general informations(visa , travel etc.).
: Isn't it a good idea to have a FAQ(Frequently asked
: questions). 
: 	FAQ should be updated and posted every month.
: This way, I think, we can cut down no of articles 
: significantly.
: 
: Munil Shah

This is itself a FAQ....
The FAQ already exists and is posted on a regular basis by Vikas I think....
Check out /pub/usenet/soc.culture.indian at pit-manager.mit.edu
Srinath
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Subject: re: cow convention
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 01:44:44 GMT


In article <1992Aug28.193118.10669@news.Hawaii.Edu> vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>at the preliminary cow meeting for constant ogling at the cows .. err.females.
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I guess you know what you do best...

>Cowtcha Gangster.

Njan

    You have a cow's memory only :) You had posted * exactly * "same to same"
response 4 months ago .. and you * boast* about being an intelligent mallu ..:)
  Shame on you :)
BTW, are you still comparing your GPA with your fellow IITians ? Just
curious .. you must have to do a lot of meditation to calm yourself, no? :) :)

Gotcha gangster.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: anupam@pyuxd.uucp (25854-arora)
Subject: Looking for IIT-B guys
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:49:21 GMT
Keywords: IIT Bombay 1986 Chem

I am posting this for a friend of mine.

Satya Rami graduated from IIT-Bombay in 1986 from Chem Engg. He is working here
in New Jersey as an Environmental Engg. He is interested in getting in touch
with all IIT-B graduates. So if you are or you know an IIT-B graduate, you
can either send me a e-mail or call up Satya Rami. His phone numbers are:
(908) 281-7944 (Res) and (908) 526-1000 Ext. 465 (Work). 

Anupam Arora.
anupam@pyuxd.cc.bellcore.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: Re: I will close you by my ices --[ The Tiger Cascade ]
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:31:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.173933.1794@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU  
(Icarus) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.125801.16683@menudo.uh.edu> aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu  
(Venkatachalam Aruna) writes:
> >In article <1992Aug26.225243.194559@ua1ix.ua.edu> ngopalas@ho19.eng.ua.edu  
> >(Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>I will close you by my ices.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I will lose you by my dices.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>  I will kill you with my spices.
> >> >>>>>>>>    Hi willki, you with mices ?
> >> >>>>>>>>    No Vepal, that would be crises.
> >> >>>>>>      No pal, begone, that suffices.
> >> >>>>>       I car US life's main spices?
> >> >>>>        I caress her vain crevices.
> >> >>>         I could do without artificial devices.
> >> >>          I kudo you with art on what premises ?
> >> >           Could you be SCating on thin Ices?
> >>             Methinks Icarus will pay terrible prices.
> >              Yes, he will be crushed down to juices.
>                Less, you will be rushed down to the sluices.
                 Mess, to get crushed, he always cruises.

Venkat
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Subject: Uri geller
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 01:47:15 GMT

The Stay ]<ool guy writes:

  And on a slightly different note, anyone heard of an Israelite(?)
called Uri Geller, who can move or bend small metal objects with 
his mind? I have read somewhere (I dont remember where), that the
average human mind has a vast, but latent, capability to perform
 
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       The Uri Geller thing was beaten to death in Sci.skeptic some
time back. It must even be in their FAQ. Hocus-pocus-hunkum bunkum :)
Seems to be their favourite topic, too :)

FFT
From: rs@sys.uea.ac.uk (CHE Guest News Login)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Should Indian states need more autonomy?
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:19:40 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

juvvadi@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Ramana R. Juvvadi) writes:

>In article <1992Sep1.205513.19366@udel.edu> godura@zeus.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura) writes:


>>I am a Punjabi, and I've lived in Delhi for 4 years. I do not know who
>>you spoke to, but I am yet to meet a Sikh who wants to secede.

I don't agree with you. The situation in Delhi is entirely different from PunjabI have lived in Punjab for 20 years and lived in Delhi for 6 years. I agree that sikhs in Delhi don't want to secede, but in Punjab, I still have to find a Sikhwho has refused khalistan, if offered.

Delhi sikhs, will not join khalistan, even after its formation, as Delhi Muslimsdid, on formation of Pakistan, unless forced by riots like 1984.

So if you want to judge situation, then go and stay in Punjab. Their day starts
with sun rise and finishes with sun set. No body is on the streets after 7 p.m.
People are scared of militants and police equally.

guest
From: jsingh@uicadf.csl.uiuc.edu (Jaidip Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Buddhism/Sikhism a part of Hinduism ?
Date: 31 Aug 1992 14:49:42 GMT
Organization: Coordinated Science Laboratory, University of Illinois
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicadf.csl.uiuc.edu

Butalia did not bring Sikhism into the discussion - Anil Trivedi
did.  Butalia also happens to be right - in the period 1698-1705
Guru Gobind Singh did fight several battles against the Hindu Hill
Rajas. Any text on early Sikh history such as Khushwant Singh's
"History of the Sikhs" contains this information -those posters
who are literate enough and have nothing better to do can check this out for themselves.  Rewriting history seems to have been elevated to
the status of an art-form on s.c.i.

--Jaidip Singh
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Quote of the Day : (Defense Minister Pawar)
Date: 3 Sep 1992 22:23:40 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov

 In article <185pbfINNmet@agate.berkeley.edu> bijal@fusion.Berkeley.EDU (Bijal C. Modi) writes:
 >NEW DELHI, India, 1992 Sept 3 (UPI)
 >
 >      ``India will teach a lesson to Pakistan that not only its present
 >	generation but future generations would also remember,'' 
 >					Pawar speaking at a news conference.
 >					Source : Clarinet Newsfeed

	Reminds me of a comment in "Yes, Prime Minister",

	::  It takes a year of the foreign ministry's efforts   ::
	::  to compensate for what is said in an hour's meeting ::
	::  between the foreign ministers.                      ::

	If Sharad Pawar really made this comment, gawd help us!!

	Prem!
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==                Big Hegemonists Beating Up Little Hegemonists.              ==
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From: kannan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Kannan Subramanian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: General Body Meeting of the M.S.
Date: 30 Aug 92 01:01:37 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

(Veeramany Sthanumurthy) writes:

>> 
>>Just one more on this thread before the net.cops arrive. 
>      ^^^ ^^^^
>I assume that means this. :-)

Well, I'm feeling reckless. Let's take it the distance. No cops yet, so who
bells the cat? (You go first.) :->

>Talking about net.cops - they seem to have gone on a sabbatical
>or something. What with the cascades in full flow and old hands
>returning with nostalgia, law and order takes a back seat. 

Old hands returning with nostalgia - I must've missed that one. Or do you
mean the Swastika thread? Maybe I kill with too much zeal.  

>Aside from some serious linguistic discussions of
>some ancient Indian tongues and some nasal twists to the old
>Bombay favorite pao/`n/ as in bhaji and vada not much seems to 
>be cooking. Glad to see that the Master has returned to his proven
>skills after his brief foray into the grease-pit.

Since you bring up Mumbai and pao bhaji in the same breath, I'll stick 
my neck out and carry the nostalgia motif a notch further. (Such brash 
recklessness will no doubt be my net.nemesis at some point.)

From your native Mulund, or wherever (since my record on the matter of 
deducing backyard co-ordinates doesn't show any medal-prospects)  you 
have no doubt, in your commutes southward, hopped off the 6:12 fast on
platform # 12 and followed the herd further south-south-west, about a
hundred and fifty yards across the street, to tuck into a hearty meal 
at "Canon"? Bhaji pao at its best. A divine creation, to use that theistic
expression, served straight off the stove, with every melting-mouthful 
engraving upon one's memory the warning worth remembering, that in life, one 
must always watch out for cheap imitations.    

Allusion to Master and grease-pit escapes me. (No doubt, because I'm not
following enough threads on the net. In a word, who and what are we 
talking about?)

>PS. Could this encounter brewing between Colorado net.denizens be
>termed a conference of sorts? No herbivores in Colorado, it seems.

No phones have rung yet. About herbivores, I must correct you. If your
fortunes do bring you to beautiful Boulder, Colorado, don't bring your 
steak knife. Bring instead a healthy appetite and watch your waitress nod
approvingly as you turn straight to the page of strictly-vegetarian delights. 
It is here to stay and it is in. 

What you _don't_ want to do, even by mistake or in a careless or reckless
moment, is utter the words, "How about some Rocky Mountain oysters?" :->

kannan 

ps - don't forget the cat. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: desai@utkvx3.utk.edu (Desai, Dharmin)
Subject: Re: Does 14th August means NOTHING to us INDIANS?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:47:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.063029.1351@cc.uow.edu.au>, g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes...
>mghayalo@uceng.UC.EDU (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Aug19.153345.8140@sco.COM> waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug18.152742.26565@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> i000@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM writes:
>>>>Re: DOES 14th AUGUST MEAN NOTHING TO US INDIANS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> 
>>>>   Today Pakistan could be different political entity. But what about its 
>>>>HISTORICAL links with BHARAT? We should always treat PAK as a misguided 
>>>>brother who has lost his links of relationships with his family in the past 
>>>>few centuries.
>>>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>Jinha had a different dream for Pakistan than what it is now.
> 
>Any how it was Tughlaqi idea which proved wrong in 1971.
> 
>It does not mean India was always right.
> 
>India has remained a secular state on paper. 
> 
>All the practice followed in India is not secular but government is always 
>saying it is part of Inidan culture.
> 
>So what is Inidan culture?
> 
>Is it same as Hindu Religion's practice?
> 
>Or is it something different?
> 
>>Please elaborate.  Where are we going wrong, and how can we improve?
> 
>Indians are wrong when they are not able to distinguished Inian Culture with
>Hindu Culture.
> 
> I am sure most Indians do not subscribe
>>to the view that India and Pakistan should politically unite (According
>>to me India should have no relations with Pakistan till they
>>stop support to terrorists),
> 
>If Pakistan is supporting to a group of people with arms(Indian call it 
>terrorist and  Pakistani call it support to Freedom fighter)
> 
>Then whom did India support in East Pakistan in 1970-71.
> 
>Then whom did India support in Lanka before sending IPKF?
> 
> 
>  Some muslims after partition rejected staying in a country
>>where there is a chance of a hindu (As India is a democracy it cannot
>>be gauranteed) leader
> 
> 
> 
>Pakistani supporter in 1947 had a good vision of India after few years of its
>creation  because Hindu Fundamentalist party came into existance in 1925
> 
> 
> 
>>land sacrificed by the Indian union is a good investment.  Though I
>>believe they do not deserve any more(eg Kashmir).
> 
> 
>Kashmir is an Indian and Pakistani Colony and Both countries should give up 
>their claim on it and let the people of Kashmir decide their fate.
> 
>Same way Khalistan should be created.
> 
>I would like to see India and Pakistan
>divided into small countries like Europe.
> 
> 
> 
>Bye
>Adil
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