From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: What's going on in CO, any definite news?
Date: 6 Nov 92 10:33:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov6.103306.20301
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Nov6.030415.23376@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.184048.23367@spdcc.com> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>>>> 	We won in Oregon - 34 out of 36 counties!  
>>	Actually I think I spoke too soon - someone might correct
>>me onthe final votes...  I think we did less than 34 counties
>>in the end result...
>
>We lost the majority of counties. 


Okay the moment you all have been waiting for....

Call me stupid...(insert your call) but why is this county thing so 
important?  County lines are invisable.  Of course the metro area
carried the more liberal side of the Measures.  We always do.  We
are the saving grace of Oregon.  We lost Klamath County (surprise?).
We lost a county with 57702 people.  Twenty-four thousand one hundred
and eleven people voted in that county.  41% (9,782) voted no and 59% 
(14,329) voted yes.

Now take Multnomah County.  We had 264,072 voters vote on Measure 9.
182,191 of those were no on 9 votes.  Are you going to compare our
county to one like Klamath...?  Multnomah County counted for 25% of
the whole states no on 9 vote.  Our tri county metro vote against
9 counted for 47% of the states total no on 9 vote, while our tri
county area only counted for 33% of the yes on 9 vote.  The tri
county area is a force to be reckon with.  Why are we worried about 
the Sherman County votes with 501 for and 622 against?  I mean why 
do we say "COUNTIES"?  Yes if you look on the map the area of these counties
in eastern and southern Oregon are huge, but the physical size of the county 
and how much they cover our map doesn't matter.  Only population matters.


Bil

>I think, but I'm not positive, that we lost 20 of the 36 counties. The
>big surprise county was the one around Salem, where we were expecting
>to win but didn't.


Anyone who expected Marion county to be on our side hasn't lived
in Oregon very long!

>
>Oregon is so incredibly divided on politics. You should see the map of
>Clinton vs. Bush, or AuCoin vs Packwood..


Again this map thing....How is Oregon divide?  Sure in landsize area
Bush and Packwood won big time!  But in reality this state 43% voted
Clinton, 32% voted Bush and 25% voted Perot.  The republicans before
the election said that Perot's jumping back in would hurt Clinton
more than Bush.  The vast majority of Oregonians wanted Perot out.
To use Mr. Rushlimbaugh's type of math, 68% of the state of Oregon
wanted Bush out of office.....Not to much division there.

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>nelson@reed.edu \/   Indifference, the plague that moves throughout this land


Bil Snodgrass III
Oregon is funky state.  We are real liberal in our big cities and
real conservative in our small towns.  It was the small towns and
counties of Oregon who helped us win on measure 9.  Look at 
the Trojan vote where we as a county voted to close down Trojan, our
nuclear radiation plant, but the rest of Oregon voted to keep it.  It
shows that we need them to help us win things and they came through
for us on Measure 9.  Maybe it sounds like I am switching sides 
of the stream on this one, but as I wrote this I started to see (hope?)
that we aren't as divided as we may think.  So I will work from there.