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From: peewee@infoserv.com (Power to the Penis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Questions...
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 20:12:19 PST
Distribution: world

        >How much does Hogan weigh now? 
        
He's down to 98 pounds, due to masturbating himself down to nothing        
but skin and bones during the last 12 months.  He's built up ten
tremendous callouses on his hands, and they're now registered as
lethal weapons.  His callouses are so muscular, they can dance
just like his titties used to do, which in turn turned on every
homo in the Western hemisphere.

        >He is scrawny or what?

Yes.  He's so scrawny, when he stands sideways and sticks out his
tongue, he looks like a zipper.  Har!  Oh yeah, I forgot that this
newsgroup has the sense of humor of a dentist's drill.

        >Does anyone know anything about the rumor that there are two 
        >Ultimate Warriors? 
        
The original UW, Jim Hellwig, died of AIDS in 1988.  The new UW is        
leaving the WWF because his HIV+ is affecting his personality.  The
AZT makes him delirious at times, so he had to leave.
        
        >This may sound strange, but one is supposed to bigger teeth.

You're right.  The AZT is calcium-rich, causing the teeth to grow big.
He's starting to look like Bugs Bunny, so he's taking some time off
until he finds a new dentist.

Brutus "The Barber" Fruitcake is coming back, along with Marty Janetty,
after a successful treatment program at the NAMBLA clinic.  Marty looks  
fat now, like he's been cornholed by Kamala, which is why he walks so
bow legged.  That was his pennance for sucking anuses of little boys.

Who's root is Steve Lombardi slurping these days?  He's one of my
favorite rootslurpers.
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Catch-22 (re Pro-Wrestlin
Date: 21 Nov 92 09:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

MG>From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
  >Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

  >what they deserve when they PAY on PPV for this garbage.  And you will notic
  >the same 90% posting on this group every week, getting all excited 'cause Ba
  >Bam Lardass is coming back! Wow!  This goes along with the weekly, junior-hi
  >school mentality of the homophobic netgods with their AIDS jokes and homohat
  >comments.   Watts and McMahon are giving what most of you deserve. IMHO !

As someone who posts enough to make it into the 90% figure that you
mention, I resent the implication of your post.  You have never seen me,
or at least half of the other 90% you mention, make jokes about Aids or
homosexuals.  Also, you never heard me get excited about Bigelow coming
back.

Please don't be guilty of the stereotyping that annoys you so much.
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Entrance Music
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:58:26 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

asspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan) writes:

>My personal favorite was Brody's New Japan music.  Something about
>Beethoven and Led Zeppelin together really strikes a chord with me.  :-)

Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song" was also used as Brody's theme in All Japan.
New Japan played this song and Beethoven's....well, I don't know what you
call that in English, but we call it "Destiny."

>Choshu's music is great, though.  Two questions I have:

>1)  Did that music originate with Masa Saito?  That's the impression I
>received, though I may be totally off-base.

I don't think so.  Saito had his own, but New Japan used Choshu's 
"Power Hole" when Saito wrestled against Inoki with Choshu and co. at
ring side in '87. That was the return of Choshu from All Japan.

>2)  Has anyone noticed that the music was just slightly different when
>Choshu was with All Japan?  Though I may be wrong there and the
>differences may be attributed to the way the sound came off on the
>tape.

How did they differ?  I never paid attention, but All Japan TV announcer
introduced Choshu's music as "Power Hole" also.

Anyway, that music used to get me excited when several years ago. Now 
I wanna ask him to change the music since he's not what he used to be.

-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
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From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Revised Halifax card.
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:46:59 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

After the Warrior and Bulldog are axed, the Halifax card, which was
horrible to start out, gets worse!

Halifax Metro Centre, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada: December 12, 1992

Bossman (not Warrior) vs Nailz
Hacksaw (not Bulldog) vs Kamala
Tatanka vs Martel
Crush vs Berserker
High Energy vs Beverly Brothers
El Matador vs Terry Taylor
Lance Cassidy vs Skinner

Looks like the Bossman/Nailz feud will live past Survivor Series
after all (groan...)

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  (__  __)     .----------------------. 
 _  / /        | Jason Steeves        |
( \/ /         | (jsteeves@ac.dal.ca) |
 \__/ ASON     `----------------------'
From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WWF phone call scam
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 15 Nov 92 12:50:07 EST
Organization: The State of CT.... NOT!

How stupid does Uncle Vinnie think we are? Call and leave your number so a
WWF wrestler will call you? How many WWF telemarketers will call as well?

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Organization: Doctoral student, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:34:41 -0500 
From: John Thomas <jt29+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Orndorf on Clash

With the exceptions of "Too Cold" Scorpio and the Tag Title match (I
don't think Shane Douglas is at all bad---if he were a heal or Japanese
ye Net Gods would love him), this clash was really weak.  Watts and son
gotta go.

As I was watching the show, I thought I saw Orndorf in the heel locker
room during the drawing for Battle Bowl.  If so, this is yet another
continuity error for WCW, since the taping for his entrance just occured
at the most recent Center Stage taping.  Which raises another question,
why not introduce Orndorf and Garvin at the Clash?  Seems to me they'd get
the most bang for the buck making a big splash at the clash, rather than
waiting for the weekend syndies and cable shows.

Oh well, with Watts in charge, I guess we shouldn't expect reason.

John Thomas
jt29@andrew.cmu.edu
(signature suspended for testing positive for steroids)
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Perfect face turn
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:20:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HMS

In article <1ee3flINNdfn@male.EBay.Sun.COM> scheid@danzan.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>
>So, I look for Curt's return (if indeed it is a return and not a work)
>to be one where Flair & Ramon beat up Savage, go after Curt's back for
>turning on them and legitimize Curt. Savage is beat up and put on the
>shelf and the mysterious phone caller turns out to be Bob Backlund, who 
>comes in and makes a save. This allows Backlund and Curt to tag while 
>tuning up and gives the fans someone to really cheer. 
>
>---
>Dave Scheid - All Disclaimers Apply

Nah,it has to be the Hulkster. Look for him to reemerge around Roayl Rumble time
and then this will set up HH-Flair match at WM with Mr.Perfect somehow
back in the Heenan camp as a consultant. I can't see Mr.Perfect being a
face for too long...

Vince might actually come out of it shining like a star...

-Mark
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From: jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Savage's Mystery Partner
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:39:34 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

In article <1992Nov16.003657.8919@ac.dal.ca> jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:

>IMHO, the ideal option for Vince to choose would be the guy that he
>wants to get over, but most of the fans aren't familiar with: Bob Backlund!

That would be my choice.  It looks like the perfect opportunity for Backland
to show millions (mostly on tape probably) how well he can wrestle.

Another choice could be Bret Hart.  He would wrestle Michaels earlier in the
evening then be ready for the tag team match.  They have been pushing him as
a man who defands his belt regularly.  But I doubt McMahon would do such a
thing like that.

IMHO, Backland would have to get the nod.




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Oakland University		      Start Hacking
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From: danm@ether.UUCP (Dan McDonald)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: CWUSA: 10/30/92 Recap
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:06:06 GMT
Reply-To: danm@ether.UUCP (Dan McDonald)
Organization: HALF, Beaverton, OR

Thanks for the update!   I have been unable to watch this show since
Channel 32 locally went "temporarily off the air".  Please keep up the
good work.

Some local response to your observations:
1. The opening sucks, as you pointed out.
2. Sandy Barr really needs more stage presence.  He's been this way
   in wrestling for at least 20 years...but I wish he'd change a bit.
3. They have been having a bad time finding anybody to do the color
   commentary with Don Coss.  It's been a downhill roll ever since
   Scotty "the Body" left.  It's been *very* steep downhill with the
   CWUSA promotion.
4. The cameras seem to miss a lot of the good action, don't they?  I
   had thought they were getting better, but perhaps they haven't. 
   Perhaps part of the problem is the 20+ years of Portland Wrestling
   filmed with stationary cameras from the crows nest has made it 
   even more difficult to deal with the concept of a roving camera.
5. Would you really estimate 1000 people there?  That's quite a crowd
   When my reception was good enough, it still looked like they were
   scraping by on about 300.  But since then, it seems like they are
   getting more exposure on cable, etc.
6. I will repeat my offer to check out the show live if anybody wants
   or cares to.  My net connection should be reliably up and running
   for at least a while.  email me for phone/address,
   we'll go see some wrestling.

dan

PS thanks again for the update.
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Dan McDonald     danm@ether   ...uunet!sequent!ether!danm

Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: d_jaracz@oz.plymouth.edu (David R. Jaracz)
Subject: Re: WWF Survivor Series on IRC?
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:28:18 GMT

In article <11032@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> rdickel@cs.strath.ac.uk (Robert A Dickel IE91) writes:
>
>
>And whats the news on Da Mountie .. I havent seen thim work a syndie
>show for a while .. is he fired .... what happened ?
>
Da Mountie is now residing at AdversaryMud (129.32.32.98 4000)  He is
12th level, and still carries aroun the shock stick.  Really!


>Bobby
>     (Heenan)
>
>
>-- 
>      Robert Dickel, student at University of Strathclyde, Scotland.
>            ::::::::   rdickel@cs.strath.ac.uk   ::::::::
>>>>> CONNECT to BoBnet now!!! Free registration and account... No modem or
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: Phil Stromer Shut Up
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:07:46 GMT

v058kchy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Joseph Avolio) writes:

>In article <1992Nov23.064156.29699@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, mk009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ([Matt Kaufman]) writes...

>.While I do agree with you that Phil's ramblings have no place on the net,
>  I've got to admit that his last post had too be one of the funniest posts
>  on the net in a long time.  I was ROTFL after reading it.  

Don't encourage him....   :-)

>  I guess what I'm saying is, I don't mind Stromer's post ONCE IN AWHILE
>  when compared with 300 posts asking who's Max Moon and if there two
>  Ultimate Warriors!!!! 

If put in the position of choosing between one of Phil's posts or two
hundred Multiple-UW posts, I'd go for Phil's post.  But that choice
isn't really offered.  The UW posts will show up here regardless.

Tom
From: kzim@watserv.ucr.edu (Christopher Robin Zimmerman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: More new names!!!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:29:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.171409.20555@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>  
k2ph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (The QRPer) writes:
>I seem to remember Roddy's real name was given *somewhere* as
>Roderick Toombs (not sure of the spelling).  Can anyone confirm
>this?
>

OK, I will.  I also can't remember the spelling, but it was given in the WWF  
"Column One" article in the LA Times earlier, before WrestleMania 8.

Christopher Zimmerman
  / kzim@watserv.ucr.edu / kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu / zimmerma@ucrengr.ucr.edu /
From: ab016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: THINKING LOGICALY abot Perfect/Savage
Date: 18 Nov 1992 12:02:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu




Personaly, I hope the Henning face turn is for real.  The marks need
another *wrestler* to cheer for besides Brett Hart.  Notice I said
wrestler, not over-inflated street fighter.  BUT, still sitting in the back
of my mind, is the couple of months Savage will be taken off after the SS. 
That is a perfect (pun intended) way to write him off for a few months. 
Have Hall, Henning and Flair triple team him.  I will be sitting 6th row
ringside.  Look for all the (mostly) pro-hell signs.  Including:

On the 8th day, god created Vince's hair piece.
L(.)(.)king for Lugar!
Sign the Steiners!
Bill Who?  FLAIR for PRESIDENT!
PORKYS BACK!  (for Albano)
TetnaQuake
Enos and Bloom RULE!


and the clasic.....

I-snt  R-atundo  S-tupid!!

any other ideas??

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From: b706zdj@utarlg.uta.edu (VICCI VARNER)
Subject: Re: Wrestler's Real Names
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:49:00 GMT

In article <20NOV199208375653@utarlg.uta.edu>, b706zbh@utarlg.uta.edu (Darin Brown) writes...
>Here's a list of wrestler's real names and other names they've wrestled under..
> 
>WRESTLING NAME       OTHER NAMES           REAL NAME      AGE/YEARS PRO
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Akeem                 African Dream        George Gray     44/21
>                      One Man Gang
>Andre the Giant       The Eighth Wonder    Andre Rousimoff 44/26
>Barbarian             Powers of Pain       John Fuvola     34/10
>                      Konga the Barbarian
>Beefcake, Brutus      The Barber           Ed Leslie       32/13
>                      The Dream Team
>                      Ed Boulder
>Big Boss Man          Big Bubba Rogers     Raymond Traylor 27/5
>Bravo, Dino           Canadian Strongman   Adolpho Brescino 43/22
>Brooklyn Brawler      Steve Lombardi       Steve Lombardi  28/6
>Brunzell, Jim         Jumping Jim          James Brunzell  41/18
>                      Killer Bees
>                      High Flyers
>Demolition Ax         ?? Machine           William Eadie   5?/19
>                      Masked Superstar
>Demolition Crush      Brian Adams          Brian Adams     27/4
>Demolition Smash      Krusher Kruschev     Barry Darsow    30/8
>DiBiase, Ted          Million Dollar Man   Ted DiBiase     37/17
>Douglas, Shane        Dynamic Dudes        Troy Martin     25/4
>Duggan, Jim           Hacksaw              James Duggan    37/13
>Earthquake            Canadian Earthquake  John Tenta      27/4
>Elizabeth             The First Lady       Elizabeth Poffo 30/5
>Garvin, Ronnie        Rugged               Roger Barnes    48/28
>                      Hands of Stone       
>Haku                  Colossal Connection  Uliuli Fifita   31/13
>                      Islanders
>                      King Tonga
>Hart, Bret            Hitman               Hart, Bret      33/14
>                      Hart Foundation
>Hart, Jimmy           Mouth of the South   Hart, Jimmy     47/13
>Heenan, Bobby         Brain, Weasel        Raymond Heenan  47/24
>Henning, Curt         Mr. Perfect          Curt Henning    32/12
>Hercules              Hercules Hernandez   Ray Hernandez   33/11
>Hilibilly Jim                              James Morris    33/8
>Hulk Hogan            Sterling Golden      Terry Bollea    37/14
>                      Terry Boulder
>Honkytonk Man         Rhythm & Blues       Roy Ferris      37/14
>                      Wayne Ferris
> 
> 
>       I've got 3 more pages that I'll post later on the WWF and NWA if anyone 
> wants me too.  Let me know at cs1441fw@decster.uta.edu 
>  or b706zbh@utarlg.uta.edu
> 
>                                 Let me know,
>   
                              Darin Brown
Notice that Randy Savage's last name is Poffo as well as Elizabeth's. By 
thw way, they've been married for 10 years!!!!!!
From: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Catch-22 (re Pro-Wrestling and "Wrestling Fans")
Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:55:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) says:

>It's hard to believe that people are now concerned or surprised that WCW is 
>getting as bad as the WWF.  They have been on this road for a long time. 90% of
>so-called "wrestling fans" want to see this silly, costumed clowns and fat pigs
>carrying on with managers, valets, etc.  The promoters of these big leagues 
>make a fortune off this crap.  If there is any semblence of "wrestling" the 
>idiots start screaming "boring, boring.."  The "wrestling" aspect of 
>pro-wrestling has been dead for along time.  So-called fans are getting exactly
>what they deserve when they PAY on PPV for this garbage.  And you will notice 
>the same 90% posting on this group every week, getting all excited 'cause Bam 
>Bam Lardass is coming back! Wow!  

I think others on the net will respond to above.  I will just say that
many people who post here recognize the poor shape of wrestling in the
U.S. as represented by the big federations.  However, wrestling in
Japan, Mexico, and perhaps a few others places emphasize skill and speed
over gimmickery and cartoonism.  And  a fair number of people here
recognize that and try to make it availabe to others who don't have
access to it (e.g., via Herb and Dave's compilation tapes).  Yes, there
are a fair number of serious, mature wrestling fans here.

>This goes along with the weekly, junior-high 
>school mentality of the homophobic netgods with their AIDS jokes and homohatred
>comments.   Watts and McMahon are giving what most of you deserve. IMHO !

Just a couple of points.  I'm not a netgod (more like a netmark) and the
few that we do have usually exercise good judgment in their posts (yeah,
even Sean Ryan on occasion).  I don't think this group is either
particularly PC or homophobic.  There is the problem of Phil Stromer.
Phil used to work for Sun microsystems and he used to post mindless
homophobic drivel from his machine.  Sun was alerted to this, did not
appreciate the sentiments that Phil was putting out, especialy on company
time and equipment.  This ultimately led to Phil being fired from Sun.
I understand the Phil was/is sueing Sun for infringement of his right to
free speech or something like that.  Phil was gone from this group for a
while but now has regained access to usenet via infoserv (he is using the 
alias of peewee which used to be the name of his machine at Sun) and is back 
to posting tasteless, mindless homophobic drivel.  Phil needs help and I
hope that someday soon he gets it (he really is clueless).   
Please don't confuse the people who usually post here with Phil Stromer.
OK?

-- 
Just this person's view of netlife.

======> mike palij ::  bh929@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: slucas@grant.ncd.com (Steve Lucas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Erik Watts
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:41:08 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Mt. View, CA, USA

In article <hit.722153107@sol>, hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe) writes:
|> They should send him to New Japan and let him stay in dojo.  His push is
|> too early.  Since they keep mentioning that he learned some moves from
|> those Japanese wrestlers, why not send him over there for a while and
|> let him study a lot.  He's not a draw for the promotion anyway.
|> Just a personal opinion of mine...
|
	
The push by daddy is to set up the new tag team of Eric & Dustin.  This was in
the works for a month or so.  This was all suposed to have happened starting at 
HH ppv but with Gordy out, this was postponed.  Then resurfaced with Snake going
to the clinic.  Now there will be a short run of Windom vrs Dustin and then the
tag teaming of Watts & Rhodes.  
	
A new rummor is that Windom will tag with Rude and gain the belts back.  Rude will
drop the US belt to either Watts or Rhodes.  Thus raising the heat of the tag
duel.  This could also end up in a series of cage/bunkhouse/no DQ matches between
the two new teams.  I looks like Cowpie has gotten the word about getting the
ratings back up.  Good job Turner!

> -- 
|> Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
|> University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
|> Denton,Texas
|> $@EDJU>08<!wKL%F%-%5%9=#N)Bg(J
From: mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Henning to team with
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:49:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens) 


To: lhstone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Louis "Big Lou" Stone)

L >You are stretching things too far.

L >1.  Just because Curt Henning is Savage's tag partner does _NOT_ mean
L >    he will be wrestling.

I thought this too when Curt said, "I will be in Macho's corner"

L >a.  It could be a part of a hideous plot by Flair-Perfect-Ramon to end
L >    Savage's wrestling career.

I also thought of this by the lack of this plot even being mentioned
by anyone on Prime Time.  You would of thought that Vince, Hillbilly
or Duggan would of at least said to Macho "You better be careful
of Perfect, he might still be with Flair".  Instead they instantly
supported the Macho choice and made it sound like Curt would be a
great partner.
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