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From: terjem@stud.cs.uit.no (Terje Normann Marthinussen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Multiprocessing
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:24:31 GMT
Organization: University of Tromsoe

In article <26315@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, saunders@cs.arizona.edu (Richard T. Saunders) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.234916.6311@ultb.isc.rit.edu> snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.N. Mozumder ) writes:
>>In article <boing.721262416@mcl> boing@mcl.ucsb.edu (Geff Hanoian) writes:
>>>In <1992Nov7.211453.21687@ultb.isc.rit.edu> snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.N. Mozumder ) writes:
>>>
>>>>To folks at CBM:
>>>
>>>>Are there any plans for a multiprocessing or RISC based Amiga?  My last
>>>>rendering took 25 hours on Lightwave 3-D on a 030/882-25 MHz Amiga for
>>>
>>>	[ ray tracing stuff cut out]
>>>
>>>>multiprocessing?  Radius has such boards for 68040 multiprocessing on
>>>>Macintoshes.  Already maximum performance on the macintosh has exceeded
>>>>the Amigas in ray tracing with the Radius boards.  Help us videographers
>>>>out here.  25 hours is a whole day of not doing work on the computer.
>>>
>>>	But see ... on an AMIGA it's not a whole day without doing 
>>>	work on the computer.  We can multitask unlike the MAC.
>>But the Toaster Doesn't multitask while rendering in Lightwave 3-D.
>>
>>Bobby Mozumder
>
>Be careful to distuinguish between multi-TASKING and multi-PROCESSING.
>Multi-PROCESSING implies that you have >1 processors working in parallel
>(let's not count the blitter and Copper for the moment ... usually
> a multi-processor has "general purpose" processors).  Multi-TASKING
>implies >1 "logical" processors, i.e., you don't HAVE to have >1
>processors.
>
>Why am I being so careful in my nomenclature?  Well, if the Macintosh actually
>has plug in boards that allow you to "Multi-PROCESS", then I would say that
>is a serious advantage over the Amiga.  Multi_PROCESSING is the wave of 
>the future---it's the only way we'll be able to compute faster because
>soon processors will hit the "Speed of Light" barrier.  

"Multiprocessing" in double quotes is certainly the right way to write it.
I belive that I've read about this board for the Mac and what it does isn't
really multiprosessing.

It is an expansion card with a 68040 on it which runs totally independent 
of the host. It's more like having a machine in the machine, than real
multiprocessing.

I think what it does is to use the network capabilities that is in the newest 
version of the OS. These gives you the posibility to run one independent task
on another machine in the network, but instead of running it on another machine
you run it on the processor on the card.

Really, it's not much more multiprocessing than having to Amigas in a network.

Want real multiprocesing?
hmmm.... what happened to all the talk about Transputer cards?


Terje Marthinussen
terjem@stud.cs.uit.no
From: kalix@ludd.luth.se (Gunnar stlund)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: HELP, Booting trouble on a 3000.
Summary: Why me
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:22:29 GMT
Organization: Lule} Tekniska H|gskolas Datorf|rening - Ludd


I just installed another 4MB in my A3000 (I had 8MB before) and
now it behaves very strange when booting. If anyone have a theory
about what it might be I'd be most obliged if he/she would
send me an email about it.

At first it loaded the Kickstart successfully from the HD but
when it tried to boot the system from the same HD it gurued.
(Guru: 80000003, 0073a???    I can't recall it exactly at the moment)
I tried to use a WB diskette and the same thing happened. Then I
used the Install3000 disk and _it_worked_! I could access the HD
normally and had 12MB mem. Then I tried to boot from WB diskette and
HD and got a Guru. I repeated the same thing several times.

Suddenly the WB diskette worked. Testing HD == Guru. Testing, testing,
testing. Diskette works, HD gurues. Giving up!

Why does one media work, but not the other?

Any educated guess, theory or similar experiences will
be _very_ appreciated. Please email me to save bandwidth.

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From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Three AGA questions.
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:44:17 GMT
Reply-To: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Organization: the DSV institute of Stockholm, Sweden.


Hi,

I've got three questions regarding the new graphic modes:

1. Everybody (well, almost) keeps refering to 256000 as the maximum
   amount of colors on the screen using AGA. Isn't that a strange
   figure? I can understand that it is correct on a 640x400 screen,
   since then 256000 will be the number of pixels. But shouldn't it
   be 262144 on all higher resolutions...?

2. What is the size (in Kb) of an avarage HAM8 picture? (640x512)

3. Does the lovely 72Hz mode 800x600 flicker, using an A4000
   together with a multisync monitor. (I won't tell you what that
   mode does to my A3000's flicker fixer.)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: rbc@engr.ucf.edu (Robotics Club)
Subject: A501 clock question.
Organization: engineering, University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:26:24 GMT

okay, Where is the FAQ for this group?

Seriously, I have a A500 +501, ram works fine, I even got it
to go one to mb.

SetClock returns:
Battery Backed up Clock not Found.
I tried SetClock reset, same thing.

Is this quick fix? or does anyone have an idea where I can get
specs on the clock chip? I got the board used, so its possible 
that it sat long enough for the battery to die.

Thanks, I know its gone around before, wish somebody could
archive this group in some way.... sigh.

thank you very much.

Eric Wampner      wampner@acme.ucf.edu  eww@grebble.oau.org
masquerading as             
rbc@engr.ucf.edu
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Portable A600?
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 92 21:58:25 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <9986@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> <Bx5zFJ.EDM@news.iastate.edu>
  <Bx64q3.IHu@news.iastate.edu>

>     Excuse me, I have to jump in here again.  What about Greneda?  What
>about Panama?  I don't care what Ronnie Ray Gun called them, Police
>Actions or whatever.  We sent a bunch of troops to both places to wipe
>out people we didn't like.  Sounds like a war to me, just a little closer

Wipe out what people?  You have your hatred of murder aimed at the wrong
people.  No one was "wiped out" dude.  Both have since been shown to be
justifiable and shown that the lives of non-combatants were protected and
respected (except in one case of a soldier who was later charged with and
convicted of rape.  Would THIS have happened in those other countries!).

Also, they were hardly "wars"...  there was never any declarations by either
official governments (Noriaga had lost the election, he was not officially
recognized as Panama's leader.  The properly elected officials ASKED the US
for help.)

>George L. Hall-Skank            |"Religion and Politics will both          ///
>Graduate, Electrical Engineering| exist in greater purity the less        ///
>Iowa State University, Ames, IA | they are mixed together"           \\\ ///
>skank@iastate.edu               |               --Thomas Paine        \\X//

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: loyd@seq.uncwil.edu (David Loyd)
Subject: HELP! VXL Accelerator acting up!
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 06:42:14 GMT

Ok all you VXL experts, figure out this one.

I have a 40mhz '030 and a 20mhz FPU chip. I am trying to oscillate
them at their respected rates but are they just too far apart to
work together or what? I can run them together at 33mhz and the
system boots but I get a crash when rendering. (the fpu can't handle
the 33mhz). I have the jumper for the fpu set to use the 25mhz 
crystal and the 40mhz CPU to use the 40mhz crystal but all I get is
a yellow screen and the power led flashes.
Help!!

-- 
                       Amiga 2000 Tower   9megs Ram   52Meg Quantum HD  
loyd@seq.uncwil.edu    Supra 2400ZI+ Modem      Sony KV-1311CR Monitor 
                       VXL '030 40mhz             Epson LQ-510 Printer 
                                Tanberg 60meg QIC Tape Drive
From: leekil@bbn.com (Lee Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Mac monitor on Amiga?
Date: 7 Nov 1992 22:36:34 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: leekil@BBN.COM (Lee Kilpatrick)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


What is the scan rate typically used on Mac monitors?  Would it be
possible to use a Mac monitor on an Amiga?  Are the voltage levels
used the same?  How about one of those tiny monochrome monitors used in
the "Mac Classic" type models?


	Lee

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: ee_c420@ceres (Philip Trickett)
Subject: 1200 Display Modes?
Organization: Kingston University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:34:49 GMT

	I was just wondering if the A1200 has DBLPAL mode like the
	A4000
	Phil

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Subject: Monitors for use with A2320
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:25:16 GMT

Howdy, world.  I just got a used A2320 de-interlacer card for my A2000 with
GVP accelerator, hd, etc.  Anyway, now I need to get a monitor to use with it.
The card didn't include a manual so I need to know:

		a) what works with it (feature list anyone?)

		b) what works well with it

		c) what's cheap

and all combinations of the above.  If any of you have any brand names and
models that you could recommend, or any semi-generic, SVGA, honest-Ernie's
clone vendor type monitors you'd recommend, I'd appreciate hearing about it
through EMail.  I'll post a summary of what I receive if there's enough
interest.

Thanks in advance.  I'd really like to pick one of these suckers up by the
weekend.  Flicker is driving me mad.

				Jerry

P.S. Stuff that would allow me to run in an overscanned workbench and see
     the extra space without trouble is very desirable.

-- 
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 "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
  Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
                  --- M. Burns  "Treehouse of Horror II"
From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Networking?  WHY?!?
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:36:01 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov12.194136.21183@fcom.cc.utah.edu> val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner) writes:
>jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono) writes:

>2) How much would it be to add a port than can do AppleTalk?  

Not a whole lot.  But if you're not going for a standard like Ethernet, why
bother with something non-standard like AppleTalk that's wicked slow.  There
are plenty of alternatives between the two.

>   I'd like ACCESS.bus which provides 14 peripherals on one connector, and
>   I hope that Commodore chooses it.  (ACCESS.bus provides for only one
>   computer on the bus, but I assume that third-parties will provide
>   bridge connections.)

Access.Bus is just the Phillip's I^2C serial bus with a definitions for an
external phone-jack style connector and apparently some new protocol layers.
I^2C is a rather novel 100kHz serial bus originally developed for low cost 
connection of peripheral chips.  You might find it in your microwave oven,
car stereo, or TV.  It's kind of handy to have around in a computer system
these days since many "multimedia" oriented devices hook up to it.  Once you
have it in your system anyway, the Access.Bus idea kind of naturally follows.
The intention of Access.Bus is basically as a "desktop bus" idea, it's too
slow for a network, even by AppleTalk standards.  It does permit multiple
masters, though, though a very weird bus arbitration protocol: the cool thing
about I^2C is that Phillips manages to get a bus that can address 128 devices
with wait state and multimaster support in only two wires.

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From: bobl@bobsbox.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdmin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Large IDE HD in A1200
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:14:57 GMT
Organization: Raven Enterprises -- Piscataway, NJ USA
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <36793@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
> In article <1992Nov2.121045.26993@ulrik.uio.no> jawil@hpx12.aid.no (Jan Roger Wilkens) writes:
> >
> > I have an 130MB Segate half-height 3.5" HD for my A500.
> > I'm going to sell this machine soon to upgrade into an A1200. Now I'm
> > wondering if I can keep the HD to use it with the 1200.
> >
> > Since my HD is 3.5" is it to big to fit inside the machine?
>
> Yep, too big.

Again, isn't there a 3.5" floppy in there?  Can't it be removed and a
hard drive put in its place and the floppy moved to external?

>
> --
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From: jimb@db.erau.edu (James Burwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Upgrading A500 -> A1200.  What do I do with my SCSI stuff ?
Date: 8 Nov 1992 06:56:25 -0500
Organization: Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona Beach, FL USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha.db.erau.edu
Keywords: SCSI GVP A1200 PCMCIA A500

I have an interesting, but I dare say, far from unique problem.

I want AGA.  I can't really afford an A4000.  The A1200 looks ideal in
terms of price.  So far, I'm happy :-).

I have one small problem:  A rather large investment in SCSI 
peripherals.  Now, I'm not so happy :-).

What shall the wayward A500 user with SCSI interface do with his
assortment of hard drives and 1/4" tape drives when he purchases an
A1200 ?

I've read some of the discussions concerning the PCMCIA slot.  They
seemed to indicate that for things like SCSI interfaces, that they are
conceivable, but less than ideal (perhaps I misinterpreted ?).

It would seem to me that the bus slot is a much better place to put a
SCSI interface.  But I've heard that this slot is on the BOTTOM of the
case, much like the A500's memory slot.  This makes it an interesting
problem to put just about anything into the "slot".  I imagine that
third party vendors will either make some sort of "cable assembly" or
some type of platform on which the A1200 sits, which plugs into the
slot.  The cable solution is probably less likely, since I can see how
one might run into all sorts of problems.  The platform solution
introduces another problem of lifting the unit off of one's table, and
elevating the keyboard, making it more difficult to type.  I imagine
we'll see either an angled platform, or a very thin platform, 
containing only the electronics and ending in a cable/connector which
leads to a SCSI device housing.  I havn't seen an A1200 yet, but
perhaps there's enough space to fit an entire SCSI host adapter and RAM
expansion (well, there's the PCMCIA for that) into the "slot", and run
a cable out of that to either a MAC type DB-25 or SCSI-2 high-density
connector.

Yes.  I realize that we have a build in IDE interface, and I'd probably 
wind up shoving a drive in there too.  But I still have two SCSI HDs and
one 1/4" tape drive I'd like to use.

Does anyone know of any existing or future plans/solutions, either from CBM 
or elsewhere, which will allow one to hook up SCSI peripherals to an A1200 ?

Thanks,

C'ya,
Jim

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From: achim@anaphi.vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Achim Karpf)
Subject: Re: Ethernet cards for Amigas?
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:53:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.180225.8275@msdrl.com> you write:
: Are there good ethernet cards available for the Amiga 3000?  I am looking to
: link my 3000 with an IBM via ethernet.  I want to share resources like CD-ROM,
: disk space, and tape backup.  I suppose that another IBM running NetWare could
: do the trick.  What other options do I have?  Run UnixWare on the IBM?  
: 
: What cost are we talking for ethernet cards for the Amiga?
: 
: -rla
--
Commodere has an Ethernet Card called A2065 and it is very compatible with all
kind of Software. Unix SVR4, AS225 under Amiga-Dos, and there are even Novell
Software packages for this Card.

The price for the card is 548 DM (300 U$)
Novell package (card + soft) 900 DM (550 U$)

Also ENLAN-DFS Software is availible.

I hope I could help you a bit. If you want closer Information about the 
perfomance, send an e-mail to me directly.

I'll be gone next week, answer can take a bit.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: rittle@supra.comm.mot.com (Loren James Rittle)
Subject: HD disk drives in A4000
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:19:08 GMT
Keywords: n

Given all the messages regarding HD floppy problems on the A4000,
for whatever it is worth:

My machine (SN 000219) can format HD disks into MS-DOS or Amiga
format.  The MS-DOS format is 1.44 MB and the Amiga format (FFS)
is 1.76 MB.  The disk's can be read/written fine with no
problems that I have been able to detect.  I assume that the
MS-DOS format is readable by DOS machines with high density
drives, but I haven't tested this yet.

Note that to get this to work, you must have disks labeled with
the little 'HD' symbol and the hole in the upper left corner.
As an aside, I had some HD disks that were formatted and written
on an old machine without the HD drive (i.e. at the old 880k
size).  These disks can't be read on my A4000 (humm, I guess I
could cover the hole... :-)!  They reformat fine to the 1.76 MB
size though... :-)

Loren
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Motorola, Inc.
(708)576-7794
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: rittle@supra.comm.mot.com (Loren James Rittle)
Subject: Supra 2400zi internal modem card & A4000
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:01:13 GMT
Keywords: n

There are two fixes to the problem I was having with the Supra
2400zi internal modem card on the A4000.  The problem was that
any term program I tried locked up after a random amount of time
when used with the modem0.device 1.3 on the A4000.

The bad fix:

Run the setpatch from OS 2.04 disks.  This setpatch contains a
patch of Forbid() to allows old modem0.device's to work under
2.04 [& 3.0] (as near as I can tell from the short discription
of the patch that is printed when this setpatch is run).  For
some reason, this patch code was taken out of the OS 3.0
setpatch command (I think I know why - read on).  IMHO, this fix
should only be used long enough to perform the 'good fix'.

The good fix:

Obtain modem0.device 2.5 from Supra and/or their BBS and/or
local dealer.  A kind fellow email'd the thing to me (it was on
Supra's open BBS, so it should be fairly legal...).  I am most
grateful.

It is clear that this problem had absolutely nothing to do with
hardware problems.  With this fix (new driver), all my Zorro II
devices appear to work fine on my A4000.  I'm sorry if I ever
implied that the A4000 had any sort of problems with Zorro II
devices.  I believe that I was quite clear that I was only
relaying what I heard from a GVP tech support guy I spoke with
on the phone.  I clearly stated at the time of that post that I
found it very hard to believe...  Dave has posted his thought's
on the matter and other's in the know have made it clear via
email that there is nothing to worry about.  Now that I can
*see* all my Zorro II devices work, I *believe* them.  I guess
that makes me a *scientist* (inside joke :-).

Regards,
Loren
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Systems Technology Research (IL02/2240)
Motorola, Inc.
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