From: kgivon@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (karen lee givon)
Subject: Re: Little Changes
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 06:48:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.154727.27103@discus.technion.ac.il> davidba@carmel.technion.ac.il (David Ben_Ami) writes:
>In article <4048@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct12.154731.22971@panther.mot.com> ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
>>>
>>><stuff deleted>
>>>
>>>>"In the Gaza Strip, the Israeli army announced that it was removing three
>>>>soldiers from duty pending another investigation.  The soldiers are accused of
>>>>killing a four-year old child.  They had shot at the child's parents' car,
>>>>mistaking it for another which was supposed to be carrying 'wanted
>>>>Palestinians'.
>>>
>>>Aren't you forgetting a "little" detail.  The driver of the car had run an
>>>Israeli roadblock.  I don't recall all the details it was some months ago.
>>>Did he try to run down the soldiers at the checkpoint?  The Father (driver)
>>>said he got scared when he saw the checkpoint, so that was why he "ran it", or
>>>something along those lines.
>>
>>I am not forgetting any details.  I posted this from an article that was
>>written by another author.  I didn't hear anything previously about the
>>circumstances which you cited above.  I don't know the underlining elements
>>which lead up to this situation.  However, the focus here is, which you seem
>>to be ignoring and/or forgetting while emphasizing this 'little detail', is
>>that an innocent four-year old was murdered.  There is no excuse or
>>justification for these heinous acts.  As simply as that.
>
>The point is that the soldiers had no intention whatsoever of shooting
>anybody, and certainly no child. They just saw a car driving at them
>at full speed, tried to stop her by warning the driver in Arabic (He
>either didn't hear it or was too frightened to react upon it).
>
>All this will not resurrect the poor boy or console his families.
>
>But it is neither a very humane or fair thing to accuse the soldiers
>of murder (political or otherwise). It was a very tragic affair. The 
>gruelsome trial to leviate the tragedy to political assets is DEPLORABLE
>and DISGUSTING. 

I would like to add--What kind of a father runs a road block guarded by
armed soldiers with his four year old child in the car?  I am not, in
any way, trying to reduce the horror of a young child's death, but
father had to know that there is some danger in running a road block
with armed soldiers. 

Keren


       
>Since Anisa only quoted the Article, she is innocent by ignorance :-(
>But the facts must be known. There are many stories who become ruthless
>murders after some "details" being left out of the story.
>
>
>>
>>>As your post typically conveniently "forget" little details as these I suspect
>>>the rest of your post(s) is equally inaccurate.
>>
>>It is very typical that anyone who disagrees, criticizes, or challenges
>>these and thousands of other cases of political murder and violations
>>of civil and humanitarian rights by the brutal Israeli occupation, is
>>to be suspected of freudulent misconduct on this forum.
>
>Well, how can you explain that there are so many exagerrated and
>unreliable accounts of incidents that are used for obvious political
>ends?
>
>I think that trying to label every tragic incident to malicious
>brutality disregarding circumstances and facts is DEPLORABLE and
>if it is done by Israelis it is also DEPLORABLE.
>>
>>Anisa
>
>David.
>-- 
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