From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: ONENESS AND UNIQUENESS OF THE CREATOR, AND THE PURPOSE OF CREATION
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 08:58:16 GMT

looi@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Wan Looi) writes:
: In article <1992Sep5.213907.27633@midway.uchicago.edu> deb5@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
: >
: >	Am i reading soc.culture.korean or am i deluded?  
: >Usenet is a forum for ideas and i have nothing against someone 
: >discussing their religious beliefs _IF IT'S PART OF A DISCUSSION OF A TOPIC
: >GERMANE TO THE NEWSGROUP_. Your topic hasn't the faintest relevance to the

Isn't there a large population of Muslims in UK?
Isn't the tittle also relevant to Christian teachings? I though christianity
believes in ONE GOD.

: >newsgroup, any more than a kimchi recipe on rec.music.industrial.
Isn't this newsgroup about culture revelant to UK? 
Isn't religion, food, music and languages relevant to culture?
	Why don't we just discuss music in *.music.*, instead of soc.culture.*?
Unless we know there is a related interest in the Newsgroup?

Isn't freedom of preaching part of the freedom of speech for which the
Speakers' corner at Marble Arch is famour for?

: >	In short, i think others support me when i say, I DON'T WANT TO

Unlike speech, you do not have to read the message. You can skip the entire
message if you do not like to read it. The message is not meant for people
like you.
	Why are you so worried that other people may read it?

: >HEAR YOUR PROSELYTIZING.  Now behave before the Olympians, the Aesir, the
: >Tuatha De Danaan, the 10,000 Gods, and a myriad of others unite to strike
: >you down.
: 
: I echo your comments. I think the poster is just being ignorant. 

I commented on those comments.
: To the poster, I hope you appreciate and value the freedom of
: speech in this country, and please don't abuse it. Just imagine
: yourself what your muslim countries would do if some non-muslims
: get caught spreading non-muslim teachings to muslims. I don't
Are you referring to the uproar in Malaysia about muslims being converted to
christianity, also Malaysian muslims in UK converted to Christianity.

Conversion and reciting are too different things. Do you want Malaysian 
government to disallow the sale of books, speeches, leaflets, courses in
religions other than Islam in Malaysia?
	Surely this is not being done yet, unless you insist on it?

But to explain your ignorance, Islam is not afraid of competition with other
religions. You can say what you want about your religion to us, but you must
not prevent us from saying about Islam or practice it.
	The job of Muslims is not to convince anyone, but to reveal a message,
when something is thought to be wrong. It is againt Islam to force anyone
to Islam because religion comes from our heart, not from your mouth. 

: intend to create a flame war here, but please be sensitive,
: respect the difference, and learn how to live with us (non-muslims).
It is just like asking us to keep quiet when someone jumps a queue.
Why don't you learn to live with us Muslims? Why do you demand that we follow
you, not us?

: And, pleeeease don't denouce others' beliefs! Got it?!
Is that what you think it is?
Why do you just "NOT BELIEVE"? Why do you want to stop someone from saying
something, not meant for you.

Did you read the article? Even the tittle does not say that Taoism is wrong.
What makes you think that by saying that you are a taoist you are not
denouncing our belief.

So do not denounce Islam! Got it?
I'm just applying the same medicine that you are using.

Isn't better to let people to say what they want, unless they do physical
damage or say meaningless insults.


--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

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