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From: roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell)
Subject: Re: X to work on ATI Ultra Pro..
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:59:39 GMT

>   Okay I am sure this has been asked numerous times and if there is a FAQ
>for this group and this question is answered in it can someone point me to
>the FAQ.  The question being...  I am trying to get X running under Linux
>with an ATI Ultra Pro with no success does anyone have an Xconfig setup for
>the Ultra Pro with a 15" Crystal Scan monitor on my Gateway machine?
>I am using the X package from the SLS distribution, do I need to get the
>X8514 configuration?

I bet you run into a very simple problem. On the new Mach32 based
boards the onchip SVGA and 8514/A share the same video memory. There
is a setup option in the install programm which let's you set this.
You should set the video ram for the VGA to 0. Then the 8514/A has
access to the whole video memory starting from location 0.

- Thomas
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Robinson)
Subject: HELP: xinit: interrupted server call (errno 4):client error
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:41:47 GMT

Recently have reinstalled X11, for that matter all of linux.  Using
.98 patch level 1 or 2 (don't recall).  However now I am getting the
following error:

xinit: Interrrupted system call (errno 4) : client error

Before the error comes I get the slate grey screen, which then turns blue.
Mouse works fine...  And about 50% of the time the xclock appears.  The 
error occurs before the xterm or the twm window manager come into play.
Ive taken out the xterm & in the .xinitrc and the error still happeds.
A while ago I was getting this error:

waiting for X server to shut down X386 Version 1.2 / X Windows System [linux v1.
										

										1 8514/A alpha]                                                                 

										(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)                          

																				

																				ibm8514                                                                         

																														

																														^M                                                                              

																														xinit:  Interrupted system call (errno 4):  Client error.                       

																														XIO:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server ":0.0"^M                      

																														      after 33 requests (31 known processed) with 0 events remaining.^M         

																															    The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient.^M  



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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: dmatic@athena.mit.edu (Davor Matic)
Subject: Re: X386 on Hercules and X386 bugs and suggestions
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:56:47 GMT



I have a question about IMAGE_BYTE_ODER and BITMAP_BIT_ORDER.

i386/486 machines use IMAGE_BYTE_ORDER as LSBFirst.  Now, I noticed
that BITMAP_BIT_ORDER is defined to be LSBFirst as well for SYSV386.
BITMAP_BIT_ORDER should be device dependant, right?  So are VGA's
really LSBFirst or is this not relevant if one is using only the
vga256 driver?  mfb certailny works faster with both BIT and BYTE 
order the same way.

What happens if one wants to use two devices which use different 
BITMAP_BIT_ORDER in the same server?  Is this possible at all?

Hercules card is MSBFirst for BITMAP_BIT_ORDER.  What is the correct
order for VGA boards?  Can I use both in the same server?

Where can I find XFree86 source code, but not as patches, please?

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Robinson)
Subject: Any X File Managers, Sys-Admin tools out ther?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:13:30 GMT

Im looking for some kind of X-window file manager.  Something that would
be something like the File manager Under Norton Desktop for Windows...  If
there is one that doesnt quite look the same I would still like to take
a look.  Also I would like some X Sys-Admin tools.  Any help finding
sources would be greatly appreciated.

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux
From: greg@katie (Greg Wells)
Subject: Re: Help running Xs3 on linux 0.98
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:48:08 GMT

siva@msus1.msus.edu wrote:
: 
: Hello, all.
: 
: I am attempting to run the latest Xs3 on my Linux box at home.  My linux
: version is 0.98pl-5 from the mid-december SLS.  My hardware is a 486/25 with
: 8mb ram, and my video card a Orchid Fahrenheight (sp?) 1280.  For the momement,
: I am using a stripped version of the example Xconfig distributed with Xs3 for
: the Actix S3 card.
: 
: When I attempt to start X, (using the startx command), the screen switches into
: graphics mode, blanks, and the machine hangs.  CTRL-ALT-BKSP followed by one or
: more CTRL-C's does not appear to restore control, since I am unable to type any
: command and see disk activity, or force a shutdown.  
: 
: I have attempted to redirect standard error from the startx command, however,
: no file is produced.  (no big surprise, if the machine is hanging).  
: 
: Would anyone please have any advice to offer ?  On random guesses, I have tried
: several different Xconfig configurations, uncompressing, and recompressing the 
: fonts, and running the X8514 server (which, btw, refused to recognise the card
: ?  I thought the S3 chip was register compatable with an 8514 ?) 
: 
: Thanks for any help, and have a merry holidays !
Hi siva,

I had similar problems.  Check your mouse settings in Xconfig.  Try all of the
mouse settings supplied in the Xconfig for X386 in order and see if you can at
least get a blue background with an xclock and an xterm.
Otherwise, use the Xconfig information found in the documents for XS3 at the 
ftp site where you got the driver.  A set of modes specifically for the 
Orchid 1280 was included with the package I picked up(if not email me, and 
I will post mine).  
--
Greg_Wells@west.msi.com

All statements are my own opinions and do not in any way represent
MSI as an organization.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: marelli@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Paolo Marelli)
Subject: XS3 ?
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:15:24 GMT

I'm using XFree86 on a 486/33 with Tseng et4000. It is really
faster then X386, but still slow ( maybe because I normally use
an Hp 720 workstation). What is very slow is xterm scrolling .
I'm very intersted in getting an S3 card for the XS3 server, but i'd like
to have some more information about performance increase.

How much is the S3 card and server faster than Et4000 and XFree86 ?
For Windows I know it is 10-20 time faster. Is the same for X ?
Does xterm scroll in a reasonable way in XS3 ?

Does every S3 based card work with XS3 ?
Can anyone suggest me a fast and common S3 card for XS3 ?

Thanks,
        Paolo Marelli

marelli@colos3.usr.dsi.unimi.it

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Paolo Marelli
Universita' Degli Studi di Milano
Dip. Informatica
marelli@colos3.usr.dsi.unimi.it
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: danield@unlv.edu (Daniel Z. Davidson)
Subject: Re: Help, need info IBM 8515 Monitor
Keywords: X386 IBM 8515
Organization: The Collective Insanity
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 06:42:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.212750.3365@unlv.edu> danield@unlv.edu (Daniel Z. Davidson) writes:
[snip]
> So I barrowed an IBM 8515 monitor from a friend
>to play with the Color server (Hopefuly at 1024x765) and see how much better
>that would look.
[Snip]
>If It makes a diference, I am using an ATI VGA Wonder XL Video card with 
>1mb of memory.

Since I posted the original message, a couple people have sent me E-mail
saying that a 8515 Monitor is limted to 600x480.  This Just can't be the 
case, as I have used teh VGAtest program that came with my ATI Wonder XL
to Test, and look at the test paterns for 800x600, and 1024x765.
In both Cases the picture is clear and stable so it DOES work.  It's just 
a matter of getting the right information for the Xconfig file.

Daniel

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(danield@cs.unlv.edu)
From: reich@unlinfo.unl.edu (stephen reichenbach)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: FAQ? i486 with Unix and X
Date: 21 Dec 1992 22:41:27 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: global
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu

If there is an FAQ to answer these questions, please point the way.
Otherwise, I ask your advice.

I am going to purchase a i486-based system and plan to run both Unix/Xwindows
MSwindows.  I would like to get some feedback with regard to what I should or
should not buy (esp., what might make it difficult or impossible to run Unix
with Xwindows).  I am a computer scientist, but have expertise in software
not hardware and don't know much about the ix86 machines.  For about 6 years,
I have had a Televideo 386 on which I ran Microport SysV Unix (neither company
has prospered), but it died.

Anyway, some specific questions:

0) What are the considerations of which Unix to use (386bsd, linux,
etc.)?  With my current system, I like being able to bring up either
Unix or DOS, to have the hard disk partitioned between DOS and Unix,
and to copy files between partitions.  Will I be able continue to do that?

1) What do I need to know when buying hardware?  In particular:
        a) Is 8MB RAM enough to get run X86?
        b) Which color SVGA graphics cards are supported and which are not?
                Which work best with X86?
        c) Is the Paradise Window Accelerator card any use with X86?
        d) Can I use a "local video bus architecture"?  (The guy at
                the store says he uses "G series".)  Will it improve
		X86 performance.
        e) What should I know about hard drive support?  How much disk
                is required for the various Unixs and for X86?
        f) Is there anything about the mouse support I should know?
        g) Is there support for Colorado tape backup units?
        h) Are high-speed modems supported?  What about fax modems?
        i) Is there support for the multi-media kits---CDRom,
                Soundblaster, etc.?
        j) What about laser printers, both HP-compatible and Postscript,
                are they supported?
        k) What about scanners?

I will be glad to receive specific suggestions (e.g., "You should get . . . .")
understanding that people have differing opinions.  Thank you for your help.

Steve Reichenbach (reich@cse.unl.edu)
From: lemmens@dv.twi.tudelft.nl (Kees Lemmens)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X- windows on PC's
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:46:49 GMT
Organization: Applied Analysis, TU Delft, Netherlands

Hi Folks,

There are people here who want to buy a fast PC with an X-server instead of an Xterminal, because they think this is a better an cheeper solution than a real X-terminal.
Can anyone tell me more about this ?

I'm especially interested in :

  - Reliability
  - speed (in Xstones)
  - Font support
  - Authorisation


Thanks in advance,

Kees Lemmens,
Dep. Applied Analysis,
Fac Techn. Maths and Inform.,
Delft Techn. University,
Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: dave@grunge.auspost.com.au (Dave Cole)
Subject: fork() after XtVaAppInitialize()
Organization: Australia Post
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:01:45 GMT

Does anyone out there who knows how to successfully fork() after
XtVaAppInitialize() want to help me?

I am trying to run a telnet session and an ftp session via the pty
drivers.  If I spawn the children before calling XtVaAppInitialize()
then everything is okey-dokey - but I need to be able to restart these
child programs if they terminate for some reason.

At the moment if I call after XtVaAppInitialize(), as soon as the
telnet session establishes a connection, the output from the pty
stops, likewise input.

HELP ME PLEASE

Thanks in advance.

Dave
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X11R5 support for Sun gs board
From: c60216@number6.aedc (Allen Buck)
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:52:58 -0600
Reply-To: buck@aedc-vax.af.mil
Distribution: world
Organization: OAO @ Arnold AFB
Keywords: X11R5 sun gs gx

We have a number of Sun Sparcstation 2s ( SunOS 4.1.1 ) from a now defunct
govt. contract.  A number of them are intended to provide single user graphics
capability to members of our cfd groups.  To achieve this, they were purchased
with gs ( versus gx ) graphics.  Those groups have decided for consistency
reasons to use X11R5.

* The problem is that X11R5 ( patch level 19 ) runs on the gx but not the gs boards.

Details about error messages will be forthcoming if necessary.

Any help, either a fix or lead to one, would be appreciated.

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           Allen Buck                                            
 Address:  MS 120, Arnold AFB, TN 37389                          
 Phone:    (615) 454-4099                                        
 Internet: buck@aedc-vax.af.mil                                  
 Local:    c60216@number6                                        
   Never trust anyone who can only spell a word one way.
From: br762@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Werner)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: re: asente-swick
Date: 3 Jan 1993 23:33:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: br762@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Werner)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, cp78085@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Tan Koan-Sin) says:

>Asente & Swick use their own wigdet set in that book. Not Motif, nor Athena 
>Widgets.

Tan emailed me, asking me to tell him my specific compile errors, and I ended
up hacking around until I got them all to go away. I still don't understand
it, though.

I had to:
  include <X11/ObjectP.h> in GraphDispP.h
  include <X11/CompositeP.h> in BoxP.h
  include <X11/CoreP.h>           "
  include <X11/ObjectP.h>         "
  include <X11/ObjectP.h>    in LabelGadgP.h
  include <X11/RectObjP.h>        "
  include <X11/ObjectP.h>    in MenuP.h
  include <X11/ObjectP.h>    in Confirm1P.h

Why did I have to do all this to make the widgets? Why does it compile out
of the box for everyone else?

Thanks to everyone who wrote.

tim werner
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Subject: Re: Help with Colormaps
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:35:24 GMT

In article <judith-231292100556@mollusk.larc.nasa.gov> judith@mermaid.larc.nasa.gov (Judith Moore) writes:

>       ....
>	XSetWindowColormap (theDisplay, mainWindow, grayMap);
>	XFlush (theDisplay);
>	sleep (5);

If you don't mind violating the ICCCM (and you can convince your users
that it's OK to do so) try calling

        XInstallColormap (theDisplay, grayMap);

right before your XFlush call.  This will take your special colormap
and jam it into the frame buffer's hardware.

To get this to work well in a system-wide context you may wish to fool
around with ColormapNotify events, and you may wish to explicitly
uninstall your colormap when the user moves the pointer out of your
window or some such.

Ordinarily, the window manager handles this for you according the the
colorFocusPolicy and so forth.  But, if you want to colormap-animate
you may need to be unconventional.  The penalty is that other
applications may "go technicolor" or "go gray" in a way that users
feel they can't control.  You may also incur some maintenance and QA
headaches.

(In case anybody wants to flame me for suggesting that an application
 call XInstallColormap directly, please consider saving the bandwidth
 instead.  I know it's a violation.
 Rule No. 1:  any rule may be broken for a good and documented reason.)

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: u438813@ba.ncu.edu.tw (Lin Wei-Ting)
Subject: How to let the pointer disappeared?
Reply-To: u438813@ba.ncu.edu.tw
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:15:45 GMT

I want to let the pointer disaooeared when the pointer enters a canvas.
How should I do ?

Thanks..


Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: anthony@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Anthony Thyssen)
Subject: Re: X client that just sits and waits?
Organization: Griffith University.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:58:05 GMT

rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley) writes:
| wijkstra@fwi.uva.nl (Marcel Wijkstra (AIO)) writes:
| mw> I am looking for a very simple (X) program: one that just waits
| mw> forever (until it gets killed). [to put at the end of .xinitrc.
|
| Try xlogout. It just opens a window which is a button to push, when it
| is pushed xlogout exits. You can then have a logout button somewhere
| on your screen.

I tried xlogout for a while but wanted a confirmation of the logout.
So I rolled my own using xmessage.

--------------8<-----------CUT HERE--------------8<---------------
#!/bin/sh -
#
#  This uses the xmessage program to create a Xlogout type button
#
exit=
while [ ! "$exit" ]; do
  xmessage -name xlogout -title xlogout "$@" \
        -buttons "" -xrm '*message.borderWidth: 0' \
        -xrm '*Translations: #override <BtnDown>: exit(0)' \
        -xrm '*Font: -*-new cent*-bold-r-normal--24-*' \
        'Logout'
  [ $? -ne 0 ] && exit=true
  if [ "$exit" != 'Logout' ]; then
    xmessage -name xlogout -title xlogout "$@" \
        -buttons 'Cancel:0,Logout:1' -xrm '*message.borderWidth: 0' \
        -xrm '*Font: -*-new cent*-bold-r-normal--18-*' \
        'Are You Sure?'
    [ $? -ne 0 ] && exit=true
  fi
done

--------------8<-----------CUT HERE--------------8<---------------


  Anthony Thyssen - (SysProg @ Griffith University)     anthony@cit.gu.edu.au
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: rgooch@rp.CSIRO.AU (Richard Gooch)
Subject: Re: xconsole client cannot open console..
Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics/Australia Telescope National Facility
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 05:12:52 GMT

In article <647@ariadna.FibHaifa.com>, ricky@FibHaifa.com (Ricardo <Ricky> Marek) writes:
> 
> 
> Hi Xers:
> 
> We have xconsole client, compiled under X11R5 pl.19
> 
> If a regular user (Nor `root') runs this client, he/she gets
> a message on the xconsole window, and the messages on the
> real console still disrupting the display.
> 
> The message in the X-client is: Couldn't open console
> 
> We run XDM!! 
> 
> I tried also to set uid and gid the binaries of xconsole, but no
> exit..
> 
> Any Hint?!

  The X11r5 version of xterm will check if you own the console device
  (usually /dev/console) before it will open it (cf. X11r4 xterm). This
  prevents people from making mistakes (it was also a security hole, as we
  found out here..). xconsole also does the same check.
  When running xdm, the console device is owned by root, so a user cannot
  capture the console. If you read the man page on xdm, it makes reference
  to a particular resource in the xdm-config file. It specifies a file to run
  when starting up a user session (this runs as root, so one has to be
  careful). My xdm-config file has this entry:

DisplayManager._0.startup:      /usr/local/X11r5/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole

  The GiveConsole file (as supplied in the MIT distribution) contains:

#!/bin/sh
# Assign ownership of the console to the invoking user
#
# By convention, both xconsole and xterm -C check that the
# console is owned by the invoking user and is readable before attaching
# the console output.  This way a random user can invoke xterm -C without
# causing serious grief.
#
chown $USER /dev/console

  We find this works quite nicely. There is another resource to change the
  console ownership back to root (and resets the protections).
  By the way, xconsole does not need to be suid or sgid. Since MIT does not
  suggest that you do this, it's probably a bad idea to do it. They HAVE
  suggested that xterm run suid root, hence they would have put some effort
  into making xterm somewhat safe against security attacks.

				Regards,

					Richard Gooch....
From: lehors@koala.inria.fr (Arnaud Le Hors)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Xpm3.2c is available
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:30:29 GMT
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France


As usual in contrib on export.lcs.mit.edu and in pub/xpm on avahi.inria.fr.

/**************************************************************************\
* 									   *
*  			HISTORY of user-visible changes			   *
* 									   *
\**************************************************************************/

3.2c		(92/12/29)

    ENHANCEMENTS:
    	- parsing optimized for single and double characters color
		- patch originally from Martin Brunecky 
				       marbru@build1.auto-trol.com

    BUGS CORRECTED:
	- XpmFreeExtensions was calling free on some argument without checking
	it was not NULL.
	- strdup was not correctly defined for systems which do not provide
	it.	- Hans-Peter Lichtin <lich@zellweger.ch>
	- some bug in XpmCrDataFI.c
	        - Sven Delmas garfield@avalanche.cs.tu-berlin.de

    NOTE:
    	- there is still a bug with the creation of the clipmask on display of
	depth 2 but I can't find a fix because unfortunately I don't have such
	a rendering system and nobody gets the time to investigate for me.


-- 
 Arnaud LE HORS - lehors@sophia.inria.fr - BULL Research France, Koala Project
From: krishnan@pms240.pms.ford.com (Hare Krishnan)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Screen Saver time ....
Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:15:30 GMT
Organization: Ford Motor Company
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pms240.pms.ford.com

I am posting this on behalf of my friend. Please send him email as he does not
have access to News. His Email address is : ssm@pms094.pms.ford.com.

Thanks in advance.
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
From ssm@pms094.pms.ford.com Thu Dec 17 16:48:52 1992
From: ssm@pms094.pms.ford.com (subramanian sundaramurthy)
To: krishnan@pms030.pms.ford.com
Subject: Re: XScreenSaver timer

How can the balance time before the screen-saver is activated, be queried?

The utility xset allows a user to set the number of seconds of keyboard/pointer
inactivity before the screen is 'blanked-out'. I need to query the balance time
of this timer since last activity. How can I query this value?

Thank you
From: luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli)
Subject: tvtwm - cannot link
Organization: Universita' di Perugia
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:48:46 GMT

I am trying to compile tvtwm on a SPARCstation with Solaris 1.0.1.
I am using the X files in the openwin distribution (should be X 11.4).

The compilation is done right but when I link I get the following undefined
symbols:
_pow
_floor
_get_wmShellWidgetClass
_get_applicationSHellWidgetClass
__XtInherit
_XtToolkitInitialize

The libraries specified in the Imakefile are:
	-lXmu -lXext -lX11

to these I have added:
	-lXt

It seems I still have to add something. Any hints?

Thamk you.

Luca Priorelli
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt