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From: fangchin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chin Fang)
Subject: Re: whining about "marketing" (was Re: Does every ...)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:14:34 GMT

In article <id.16VO.EJE@ferranti.com>, peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

|> I have access to the internet. But it's not gonna be free... I'm going
|> to have to fork out several hundred dollars minimum for a new motherboard
|> to fit X-windows into memory, probably need to replace one of my disks
|> to get enough space to install GCC, G++, X11 (probably need R5, right?),

Yep.  Everything has to be latest, greatest :) :)  Must be top of the line :)

|> and then Interviews itself. Plus several weeks hack time. And when I'm
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Several weeks?  I don't believe it.  Maybe one week :)
[unless wolves takes too much of guys' spare time :] :] :]

|> done I won't be able to run it from the living room... I'll have to be
|> sitting at the console.

I like Megapixel displays :) 

|> Oh well, now you've sent me a pointer I'll look into putting it on the
|> Sparcs here at work.

Also please subscribe comp.windows.interviews for *free* support too :) :)
Prof Mark Linton is going to release a new version of InterViews soon,
he is doing final bug fixings these days at SGI.

Have fun.

Chin Fang
fangchin@leland.$tanford.edu B-(
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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: No bootlegging hurts Unix
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:20:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.195312.4869@leland.Stanford.EDU> fangchin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chin Fang) writes:
> ME CAD, absolutely NO!  EE CAD, a resounding YES!

How about architectural CAD?

> Spice from UC Berkeley's ERL.

Sounds like they've really spiced up spice. Last time I used it you just
gave it a net list as a text file. Of course, that WAS 1979.
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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: "Open Systems"
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:00:12 GMT

In article <kuhc7nINNi6o@alhena.usc.edu> ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
> Someone else described this as BSD bigotry.  That is not true.  The major
> programs on prep all support SysV.

Interesting definition of "support".
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From: john@jwt.UUCP (John Temples)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Price of UNIX applications (was: Re: whining about "marketing")
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:49:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Private system -- Orlando, FL

In article <1992Apr12.195717.19796@unixland.natick.ma.us> bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>I think I paid $215 or so for WP for DOS.  Where can I get
>WP for SVR3 for anywhere near $215?  Please advise.

Programmers Connection (800-336-1166) and Software Add Ons
(800-822-8088) both sell UNIX WP for $299 -- $40 more than their DOS
price.  I'm sure you could get it from a distributor for even less.
This is the "single user" version, of course.  Similarly, I've seen
Lotus 1-2-3 for $499 -- about $100 or so more than the DOS version (I'm
not sure which of the DOS versions corresponds most closely to the UNIX
version in features).
-- 
John W. Temples -- john@jwt.UUCP (uunet!jwt!john)
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From: fangchin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chin Fang)
Subject: Re: whining about "marketing" (was Re: Does every ...)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 08:13:09 GMT

In article <id.7LUO.DXL@ferranti.com>, peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr12.180723.4076@news.rn.com> larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
|> > wait a minute -- Word Perfect for UNIX isn't much more than WP for
|> > DOS --  
|> 
|> Well, the street prices are about $200 apart. That's significant to me. Maybe
|> the distributors just don't discount the UNIX versions as much (or don't have
|> as much room to do so) but it comes out to the same thing for end users.

Hmmm.... I wasn't going to get in this.  But...

If you have a large enough disk, have ported g++, and am willing to read
a few READMEs and do a little text editing using whetever, why don't you
guys ftp interviews.stanford.edu and build the InterViews tool kit and
these fairly neafty clients like

The *WORD PROCESSOR (WYSWYG)* doc
The MacPaint like             idraw

Cost to people having access to Internet:  $0!
Cost to people without access to Internet: beats me :-> 

I will NOT suggest the WYSWYG WP, EZ, in Andrew Tool Kit from CMU, as I don't 
want to give Peter a heart attack :-)  Even I consider Andrew 
toooooo BIG!

Bye :)

Chin Fang
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From: wei@turing.seas.ucla.edu (Patrick Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: ISC S5R3.2.2 mount problem
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:22:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

I am having problem mounting an Extended Dos partition.  The
primary Dos partition mounts fine.  Mount keeps stating that
either it does not recognize the file system or that it is not
a Dos file system.

Help! Any help is appreciated.

Patrick Wei
wei@seas.ucla.edu

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From: rcd@raven.eklektix.com (Dick Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: No bootlegging hurts Unix
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:43:19 GMT
Organization: eklektix - Boulder, Colorado

fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) writes:
>>>>>> "Peter" == Peter da Silva (peter@ferranti.com)
[stuff about cost of C compiler]
>Peter> The problem with UNIX is these cheaper products don't seem to exist.
>
>GCC, Peter, GCC.

gcc is somewhat cheaper...but remember to figure in the 4 MB memory upgrade
you'll need.  The extra disk space isn't all that much at today's prices...
you can probably get away under $200 total.
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	...Simpler is better.
From: holsberg@pilot.njin.net (Peter J. Holsberg)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc
Subject: Speaker_Schedule!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:20:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: pilot.Apr.6.21.20.47.1992.28277
Distribution: na
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


The speaker schedule for TCF '92 is now available via ftp to 
	pilot.njin.net

Get /pub/TCF/tcf/92-talks.

Sorry to be so late with this.

Pete
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc
From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Any comments on `Unix-Lite'?
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:30:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.075339.26415@lth.se> bengtl@maths.lth.se (Bengt Larsson) writes:
> This reenforces my statement that UNIX does not exist. Except maybe
> as compatible SysV variants on PC:s.

Unix is a family of operating systems with a common base API (about 35 system
calls), shell, tools, and utilities. There are good and bad implementations of
this.

UNIX is a trademark of the AT&T spinoff of the week.

POSIX.1 is an attempt to define a superset of the Unix base API.
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From: madd@world.std.com (jim frost)
Subject: Re: Any comments on `Unix-Lite'?
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:28:03 GMT

bengtl@maths.lth.se (Bengt Larsson) writes:
>My background is VAX/VMS. And from that viewpoint, security as
>*implemented* in common Unixes leaves much to be desired. Examples are
>"." in roots path, "+" delivered in hosts.equiv, pty:s that can be
>defeated, NFS that can be spoofed, etc. 

Remember the maintenance account that used to be shipped with the
default VAX/VMS distribution?  How many releases did it take before
that was removed?

Happy hacking,

jim frost
madd@world.std.com
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From: chetal@is.morgan.com (Pradeep Chetal)
Subject: Re: rcs -- Help wanted !!
Organization: Information Services, Morgan Stanley, NYC
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:15:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.135952.11154@cci.dk> sop@cci.dk (S|ren Overgaard Petersen) writes:

   Could anyone out there give me a pointer to where I can get hold of
   the rcs (revision control system) software?

   Is it public domain or how?

   Is there a ftp site to get it from?

   Any help appreciated,

   regards

Try
	ftp.uu.net:usenet/comp.sources.unix/volume25/rcs-5.6

/Pradeep
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From: ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: "Open Systems"
Date: 12 Apr 1992 14:51:51 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhena.usc.edu

moconnor@pms704.pms.ford.com (Mike O'Connor) writes:

>In article <ku6mpuINNm80@alhena.usc.edu> ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:

>:Today, the word "Open" means close to nothing apart from identifying
>:you as marketing slime.  The word "Unix", on the other hand still
>:means something.  A system is Unix if and only if it will compile and
>:run everything on prep.ai.mit.edu without restrictions.  So: No, VMS

><laughs>  So you're basing your definition of an "open system" on what
>the FSF has at the time? 

First, I'm defining Unix!!! Not "open systems".  I paused ten seconds
to think of a good way to define Unix, and it struck me that if you can
compile the well-written PD stuff for Unix then it's Unix.  So I picked
prep.ai.mit.edu.  It was not intended as a plug for GNU or the FSF
(though they deserve it many times over).  

Someone else described this as BSD bigotry.  That is not true.  The major
programs on prep all support SysV.  If anything, I wanted to point out
the superficiality of POSIX.  Even VMS is POSIX.

        -ans.
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From: davidf@mks.com (David J. Fiander)
Subject: The cost of free software (was Re: whining about "marketing")
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:02:49 GMT

Warning: the following is a blantant plug from somebody who
used to work down the hall from the guy who did the port.

According to peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) (in <id.9GVO.JZE@ferranti.com>):
>
>For GCC, G++, X11 and Interviews? On System V release 3? You must have
>an eaggerated idea of the portability of this software, or a LOT more hack
>time. You're single, right?
>

You're right.  InterViews alone took several weeks of a friend's
time to port.  However the work is now done.  If you're running
SCO UNIX at home (I can't recall where your XENIX boxen are),
then it would probably be easier to buy the HCR C++ development
kit (AKA the SCO C++ development kit).  It comes with the
InterViews and NIH Class libraries included as sample code.
That should cut down on the porting time significantly, even if
it does increase the cost.

Hmmm. Let's see... Peter daSilva's time probably costs about
$50/hour (or more), so four weeks of porting time would
translate into $7 500.  If we can cut that down to one week just
for porting the word processor itself, then we have a savings of
$5 625.

Even at the rates that SCO charges for software, X11 + C++ +
X11 devkit will be cheaper that that.  I would guess that
buying the relevant software is cheaper that going with the
"free" stuff from the net.

BTW, the guy who ported the InterViews libraries also ported
the word processor under discussion.  It looked pretty nice.

- David

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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: No bootlegging hurts Unix
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:12:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.170425.28401@sci34hub.sci.com> gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) writes:
> =So use a cheaper one at home. I don't know about your PC, but for the Amiga
> =you have the choice of PDC, DICE, GCC, and Lattice 3.3.

> That would be fine, if the cheaper ones would support all the BIOS calls,
> for example.

Hmmm. Sounds like an OS problem. Can't you write a glue routine for this?

> >The problem with UNIX is these cheaper products don't seem to exist.

> Well, there's also not a cheap Unix existing yet, but it's getting closer.

I'm talking about cheap applications. I don't see a cheap word processor on
the horizon anywhere, let alone a cheap spreadsheet or CAD application or
animation program.
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From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: whining about "marketing" (was Re: Does every ...)
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site (219)289-0777
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:49:40 GMT

bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:

>I think I paid $215 or so for WP for DOS.  Where can I get
>WP for SVR3 for anywhere near $215?  Please advise.

It's right around $300 from Softsell (MicroAmerica)

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From: sop@cci.dk (S|ren Overgaard Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc
Subject: rcs -- Help wanted !!
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:59:52 GMT
Organization: CCI europe, Research and Development


Could anyone out there give me a pointer to where I can get hold of
the rcs (revision control system) software?

Is it public domain or how?

Is there a ftp site to get it from?

Any help appreciated,

regards

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From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: whining about "marketing" (was Re: Does every ...)
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:06:39 GMT
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site (219)289-0777

peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

>Yeh, but it's a typical price. Word Perfect costs just as much.

Word Perfect for Unix can be had for around $300.  Not bad for a first
class well supported Word Processor with excellent support --

>> source code programs is not much more complicated than installing a
>> shrink-wrapped, binary-only Pee Sea program).

>That's just plain not true. To install the typical shrink-wrapped DOS
>product you insert the floppy and type "A:install". That's all. All the
>icky stuff is hidden. Good commercial UNIX software is similarly easy.

Where can you find an office full of users who know how to use the "Pee
Sea" word processor?  That is one of many advantages of running Word Perfect
for Unix -- you can find someone from every temp agency in town who knows
Word Perfect

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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: whining about "marketing" (was Re: Does every ...)
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:56:59 GMT

In article <ae4Ht_ek6@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes:
> Do you mean like Edit that comes free with the NeXT computer?  There's
> some clown at Penn State who thinks this is a Unix problem in general.
> It's not, it's an X-Windows problems.

No, it's a UNIX problem. I don't run X on *any* of my systems, nor NeXTStep,
nor NeWS, nor any other UNIX windowing system. Why should I need to run a
window system to get a word processor, like you can get for DOS for under $100?

> Word Perfect and WriteNow are
> decent word processors for the Unix based NeXT computer.

They ought to be. They cost enough.

> In fact,
> Word Perfect runs on Suns too.  If you are going to pay for PC
> software, shouldn't you expect to pay at least as much for Unix
> software?

I'm prepared to pay as much for UNIX software. The problem is, UNIX software
starts at $500 and goes up... for products that start at $300 and go down
if you get them for DOS.
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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: whining about "marketing" (was Re: Does every ...)
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:47:21 GMT

In article <ADAMS.92Apr6022007@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de> adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams) writes:
> In article <id.VWLO.MOE@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
> >   But even with that, your price for a single data point, MS Word for SCO
> >   in a single-user configuration, is still $200-$350 over the same class
> >   of product for PCs. It's twice the price for Microsoft Word for the
> >   Macintosh. And where are the $18, $56, and $37 products?

> On Internet, waiting to be repacked and distributed ;->.

OK, where? Where on the net is a good, reliable, small, and easy-to-use
basic word processor? I'll ftp it tomorrow if you can find one.

Not a TEXT processor: I've already got *roff, TeX, and Lout. A word
processor.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: How many users will bog down UNIX on a PC?
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 14:28:00 GMT

In article <1971@wrdis01.af.mil> jshumate@wrdis01.af.mil (Shumate Jason) writes:

[ Queries about CD ROMS & MULTI-ACCESS deleted ... ]

>or not.  Again, any personal experiences relating to this topic would be
>greatly appreciated.

4 People on a 486/33 in VP/ix with 32MB RAM and all intelligent (and
cached) I/O with wy150 terminals (TEXT based) will load it A LOT.  I
wouldn't try over 7 or 8 under any circumstance, although a 486/50 would
probably do much better.  You will need lot's of RAM.  Allow 4MB per
VP/ix user to be on the safe side.  You REALLY don't want to be swapping
RAM in VP/ix.

My question is this?  SCO Unix Supports High Sierra CD Format SCSI CD
Drives as a filesystem I think.  Why wouldn't you want to access the
data from the CD's in a native mode?  There are a couple of companies
that do 3rd party support of CD, WORM, & R/W Optical products under a
range of Unix OS's.  Pinnacle Micro, and Storage Dimensions come to mind
immediately.  Why not "go native" and look at the data in *IX instead? 
That way you could easily pile 16-32 users on the box at once.
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Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: whining about "marketing" (was Re: Does every ...)
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:24:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.005913.29663@blilly.UUCP> bruce@blilly.UUCP (Bruce Lilly) writes:
> One possible explanation for the MESS-Word pricing for UNIX vs. for MESS-DOS;
> if MS party line is that application software for UNIX is expensive,
> it's not so surprising that MS overprices their products for UNIX--
> it's a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Yeh, but it's a typical price. Word Perfect costs just as much.

> There are plenty of end-user applications available for UNIX systems.

I'm still looking for a cheap word processor.

> I've already mentioned several of the "office productivity" types. For
> examples of others, look at a catalog of third party software published
> by any of the major UNIX hardware vendors.

I have one right here. None of the software is priced for end users.

> Another good source is any
> comp.sources.unix archive site (and compiling and installing most of these
> source code programs is not much more complicated than installing a
> shrink-wrapped, binary-only Pee Sea program).

That's just plain not true. To install the typical shrink-wrapped DOS
product you insert the floppy and type "A:install". That's all. All the
icky stuff is hidden. Good commercial UNIX software is similarly easy.

> With all of the publicly available source coded
> applications for UNIX systems, it would be no small feat to develop
> such a "killer application" that isn't a me-too version of a PD
> program (in fact, had groff been available 4 years ago, I probably
> wouldn't have purchased the Eroff package).

If someone will point me to a BINARY for groff (sorry, I've not got the
time to install GCC and G++ for one program) I'll check it out. Right now
I'll stick with SCO's version.
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