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From: rkumar@netearth.ernet.in (Dr. C.P. Ravikumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: The Man Who Came This Evening (A Translated Poem)
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:52:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: vikram.9204071012.AA16846
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 13:29:16 ist



	The Man Who Came This Evening
	_____________________________

		Kannada Poem by K.S. Narasimha Swamy
		Translated by C.P. Ravikumar


	Someone was here looking for me,
	An acquaintance, friend, or relative.
	My wife Gowri didn't care to find out;
	She dismissed him with a negative.
	
	Ours is a rented house; no palace, this;
	No sign outside says In or Out.
	So he knocked, this gentleman;
	Wasn't proper to drive away a guest.
	
	A relative? Perhaps. A friend? Could be.
	He *knows* me? Bless his kindly heart!
	She was too shy to ask his name --
	Who could it be, no matter what?
	
	Otherwise she is a chatterbox,
	When she is home alone with me!
	Why could she not open her mouth
	And find out who he was? Silly!
	
	As for me, I do the Nine to Five,
	Come home beaten n' tired.
	Whistling nevertheless, the thought of home
	Is sweet, although my home is hired!
	
	Gowri awaits me at the door step,
	A smile adorns her lovely face.
	As lovely as the bundle of joy
	Who sleeps in the cradle, full of grace.  
	
	Well, that's all; these are my treasures.
	With them I get by, one day at a time.
	But sometimes strangers such as *him*
	Will in this quiet ring a chime
	
	And disappear! Why was he here?
	Who could it be? Will he come again?
	I asked Gowri a hundred times
	And I asked her another time.
	
	She repeated her answer,
	And patient she was at that --
	But finally she too threw up her hands
	And told me to relax!
	
	Take it easy; he will be back,
	Whoever that he was.
	Of this much I am certain,
	He was not your boss!
	
	With that remark she tried to put
	Things in a lighter vein.
	And said good night and closed her eyes,
	Leaving me in pain!
	
	I looked at her in disbelief,
	A sleeping mother with her child.
	Serenity lit up her lovely face
	And in her dreams she smiled.
	
	A cool wind blew. My eyes roamed
	And settled on Gandhi's portrait.
	India's dreams unfolded, brightening 
	The bedlamp's dimly light.
	
	The man who came this evening,
	My guardian angel could he be?
	My friend, he said.  A friend perhaps
	Of all humanity?
	
	He remembered me, dropped by to see,
	He took pity and came.
	A mountain was lifted off my head --
	I have a chance to live.
	
	People like him do not pay
	A single visit, do they? 
	Can all the problems of this world
	Be solved in just a day?
	
	She was right, my Gowri was,
	The visitor will come again.
	It's people like him who bring to earth
	The timely rain and shine. 


-- C.P. Ravikumar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: siva@picasso.cssc-syd.tansu.oz.au (Siva Praba Brabakaran)
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: Telecom Australia
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 03:30:44 GMT

I think it is a good idea to start the news group soc.culture.tamil; There
are thousnads of tamils live around the world who can be linked by this
newsgroup.

Praba



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From: fotedar@galileo.uucp (Sunil Fotedar [MDSSC])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: R.E.C. Srinagar Alumni Association Directory
Date: 10 Apr 1992 18:17:10 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Software Technology Branch - NASA/Johnson Space Center


Subject: R. E. C. Srinagar Alumni Association Directory 

Dear R. E. C. Srinagar alumnus,

I am in the process of making an Alumni Association directory for those who have
graduated from Regional Engineering College, Srinagar (Kashmir), and are living
outside India. A questionnaire has been prepared to this effect. It will take 
only a few minutes to fill it out. Joining this association does not cost you 
any membership fee, or put any responsibility on you. Most probably postage may
be needed when the directory is ready to be mailed. I will wait for two to three
months, and hopefully mail the directory towards the end of the summer. Please 
participate as actively as you can. Do not answer the questions which you find 
too personal, but please make sure to fill out and send or e-mail the 
questionnaire. Also, send me information about those who you know have been 
R. E. C. Srinagar graduates living here or in any other country outside India. 
A graduate of R. E. C. Srinagar is the one who has attended and graduated from 
R. E. C. Srinagar (all 4 years - initially 5 years), that includes Kashmiris
as well as non-Kashmiris. 

I have written a Hypercard application for my database on a Macintosh computer.
If interested, please write (or call) me to get a copy of the software along 
with the user's manual. Any co-operation, and/or constructive criticism, will be
highly appreciated.


For correspondence, write to (or call) :
Sunil Fotedar
15714 PiperUs View Drive
Webster, TX 77598.
(Res.) 713-480-4270, (Off.) 713-283-4329
e-mail address: fotedar@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov


Following is the questionnaire:




NAME:
TELEPHONE: 		(Off)
			(Res)
CURRENT ADDRESS:


BUSINESS ADDRESS:



YEAR GRADUATED FROM R.E.C. SGR:
MAJOR:
HIGHEST DEGREE:
SCHOOL GRDUATED FROM:
YEAR GRADUATED:
MAJOR:
CURRENT OCCUPATION:


PREVIOUS OCCUPATION(S):


E-MAIL ADDRESS:
FAMILY:




				SAMPLE

NAME:         		Sunil Fotedar
TELEPHONE: 		(Off.) 713-283-4329
			(Res.) 713-480-4270
CURRENT ADDRESS:
			15714 Piper's View Drive
			Webster, Texas 77598
BUSINESS ADDRESS:
			McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Co.
			Space Station Division
			16055 Space Center Blvd.
			Houston, Texas 77062-6208
YEAR GRADUATED FROM R.E.C. SGR: July 1984
MAJOR:			Electrical Engineering	
HIGHEST DEGREE: M. S.
SCHOOL GRDUATED FROM: 	Rice University, Houston, Texas
YEAR GRADUATED: 	May 1987
MAJOR: 			Electrical and Computer Engineering
CURRENT OCCUPATION:
			Senior Engineer
			McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Co.
			Houston, Texas
PREVIOUS OCCUPATION(S):
			Sr. Assoc. Engineer
			Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Co.
			Houston, Texas
E-MAIL ADDRESS: 	fotedar@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
FAMILY:			Lovely (Wife); Parmesh Kumar (Son)
Organization: Junior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Thu,  9 Apr 1992 16:19:35 -0400 
From: Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Final note....?
	<s0iseINNmvt@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Distribution: na

Obviously like the rest of the SL Tamil bashers, you  are
cluesless as to how this conflict started in the first place(in 84).. If
you know, then you wouldn't have asked that question.  And of MGR's
involvement...........
And now, some want to drive those 'LTTE terrorists' out of Tamil Nadu.
Yeah,  good luck! Because, people who are not in touch with the reality
of the 'big picture' might need lots of it.  Wake up & smell the coffee.
The world is gray, not black & white. I mean seriously, did all you just
got exposed to LTTE& Tamil business after Rajiv's  death? And about
Rajiv, what was his qualification other than being the son of Indira to
run for high office? Thanks to Rajiv's quick exit, there is a 'true' son
of the land(India) at the Prime ministership. And Raw is what India
needed long ago...

--No offense meant.
From: mukesh@elsouth.wsnc.org (Mukesh Rathor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: question for recent gc getters
Summary: doing a survey
Keywords: gc, interview, document
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:40:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Electrical South Inc.


    Hi all "recent gc getters", I have a question for you. 
    Would you be so kind to tell me if you had to take any document from 
    your employer for the interview (which would require you still be Full
    Time employee with them)?



    Thanks for your response,
    Please email to : mukesh@elsouth.wsnc.org

    Sincerely,
    Mukesh

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From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Vedic Maths, Cobra Patel
Date: 12 Apr 92 17:59:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Apr11.071117.26260@news.Hawaii.Edu> vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>
>*Anyone who has done some reading on the book called `Vedic Mathematics'?
>
>    I had read a few pages of this book at IIT(B). The author of the book is
>one Mr. Shankaracharya. The book had some really fundoo methods for divison,

I'm not sure, but I think you are reffering to the book compiled by 
Mr. Puri Shankaracharya (a prof in the mathematics dept. at the Univversity
of Roorkee,UP).  I had read some part of that book and though I found the\
initial stuff like multiplication/division/etc. very fundoo, the later
stuff like differentiation and integration seemed to me to be almost as 
hard as the methods in our high school text books. Perhaps it was just 
a problem of thinking using the new terminology and non-standard methods.

I believe this proffessor can still be contacted at the Univ. of Roorkee.

regards,

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: skd@cacs.usl.edu (Suresh Damodaran Kamal)
Subject: Re: One less ignorant Indian girl
Organization: The Center for Advanced Computer Studies, USL
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:32:23 GMT

In article <sduw4oC00WC0MJ5wUC@andrew.cmu.edu> Pravin Devineni Ratnam <pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>
>Yashodara Power sent me email about my INDIAN WOMEN message.
>If anyone remembers, she is the person who questioned the relevancy
>of sex to marriage. I made fun of that statement in a message of mine.
>She has clarified her stand on that issue. She said that she meant marriage
>shouldn't be the only means to have sex. She said that she believed that
>one needn't marry to have sex. So you don't have to marry just for satisfying
>your sexual urges.
>
>I am not the only person who misunderstood her poorly worded message. However,
>I am sorry that I misunderstood her statement, and I am sending this
>message to the bboard to make sure no one uses her as an example to
>make a point about Indian girls' attitudes towards sex.


	Mr. Ratnam, which way do the above statements make her 
"less ignorant" ??
	Do we interpret that readiness to have sex without the
institution of marriage makes one person "less ignorant"?
	
	In your previous email on INDIAN WOMEN you particularly
picked on the attitudes of INDIAN WOMEN. Did you assume then that
they were all "ignorant"??

	Perhaps you need to use a little more judgement and
caution while making sweeping and condescending remarks about
our women folk. Despite bride burning incidents, most of us,
Indians do have a certain respect for our women. If they have
an attitude about not having sex outside marriage, well, one
needn't brand it as "ignorance". It could be just the way we
are all brought up. 
	Here, I would not wish to enter the debate on whether 
having sex outside marriage  is the "right" thing or not.
	But, Mr. Ratnam, I would take pains to point out that
such inane remarks do leave a bad taste, if not show a condescending 
attitude on your side.  

--
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From: dhillon@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Harminder S. Dhillon)
Subject: looking for old pals from PEC CHandigarh
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1992 23:26:56 GMT

I am looking for some civil engineers from PEC Chandigarh. His name
was Mr. Khara and the captain of hocket team. His circle was Mr.
Mongia, Mr. Gill and Kulvinder Singh. They graduated in 1986/85.
Any help will be appreciated
harminder dhillon
From: jan@world.std.com (Joshua A Natarajan)
Subject: A plea against splintering SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:00:15 GMT


soc.culture.tamil is a very BAD idea! Here's my 2 cents worth.

how about soc.culture.indian.literature (sanskrit,tirukural,vedas,history etc)
          soc.culture.indian.issues (politics, sati, LTTE, khalistan etc)
          soc.culture.indian  (test, looking for, H-1, tickets, jokes) ?

Arun Natarajan   jan@world.std.com
From: jpsingh@maverick.uswest.com (J.P. Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Frequently asked questions
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:31:27 GMT
Distribution: usa, na
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Originator: jpsingh@maverick


I am looking for a list of frequently asked questions for Citizenship
interview. I recall that sometime in Jan there was a list posted. Can
somebody please forward that list to me.
Thanks
jp
From: siva@bally.com (Siva Chelliah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: AGRE coputer sc.
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:12:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bally Systems

Newsgroups: soc.culture.india
Subject: AGRE papers
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bally Systems
Keywords: 

Hi,
  Does anyone know how I can get old AGRE papers for computer science?  If someone 
has it can you send them to me ? I can send stamped envelope or I can pay the money
when the letter is delivered to me.

Thanks
Siva (siva@bally.com)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan)
Subject: Re: Shanti where are you
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:40:16 GMT

	Not here for sure! SCI must be one of the most raucous groups
	around and you are looking for Shanti here?!	Nagarajan


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: THAHARA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: HAPPY BIHU
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:00:01 EDT

In article <1992Apr15.130227.1@watt.ccs.tuns.ca>
bhattadd@watt.ccs.tuns.ca writes:
 
>
>I wish a very happy Rangali Bihu ( Bohag Bihu ) to all the netters from
>Assam. Also wish a happy New Year ( Natun Basar ).
 
For the some of us non-Assamese, could someone please explain what Bihu
is? I assume it is some kind of spring festival. What does it celebrate,
 and how is it celebrated?  Lets have some cultural education.
 
Harsh
From: sl0pr@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: A NEWS FLASH
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:59:06 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

no news is good news!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ighosh@vlsi.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Re: Pyar Kiya To Darna Kyaa.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:07:28 GMT


 > It is richly rewarding and gratifying to find someone who you
 > truly love and who is the right companion for you.  If you do find such a
 > person, consider yourself fortunate and marry that person.  Forget about the
 > difficulties, they are trivial compared to the benefits.

 At last, a sensible posting on this subject.

 Har kisi ko nahi milta hai pyaar jindagi mein
 Khushnasib hai woh jinhe .......( forgot the rest )

 > Harsh Thaker

 Indraneel.

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 Still searching (and hoping the search is not NP-complete)
From: pradeep@bcars464.UUCP (Pradeep Srivastava)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Latest Hindi movie
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:59:55 GMT
Reply-To: pradeep@bcars464.UUCP (Pradeep Srivastava)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada

Recently released hindi movie
name    - BETA
*ing    - Anil Kapoor/Maduri Dixit
rating  - Good movie
songs   - very good

**********************
pradeep srivastava
From: 900707h@ace.acadiau.ca (SWARAJSINGH HORREE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: All India Radio logged
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:25:34 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

I listen to AIR on short wave since nearly one year now. The reception
from Acadia U, Nova Scotia,Canada is really good especially after 4.45pm
EST. This broadcast is not directly to N.America; it is in fact to Western
Europe and it starts as early as 1.45pm EST.
 The AIR people themselves are surprised that we can catch their
signal so clearly from this part of the world. 
 Also, I can catch AIR in other languages like French and Arabic (I think).
Well, i don't understand arabic I just enjoy  the Hindi film  songs that
they play.I don't have the freq. off-hand . I would post about it later.
 It's really a great pleasure to keep in touch with the news and indian 
music through AIR World service.
 You should try it. Good listening.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kuntal@algol.cs.umbc.edu (survivor)
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES  (only for stupid GUJJUS)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Computer Science Department
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 21:54:05 GMT

In article <19543@chopin.udel.edu> cobra@chopin.udel.edu (Jay Bhartkumar Patel) writes:
>
>
>Q.   What is the diffrence between a Gujju and a Polak?
>
>A.   Gujju's are dum enough to make fun of their own people.
	      ^^^
	      have

make sense ? ;-)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: gauri@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Gauri Pavate)
Subject: Kashmir Accession (was:Re: Kashmir:some questions?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:49:37 GMT

jmukherj@athena.mit.edu (Jaideep Mukherjee) writes:


>  There is nothing in the Instrument of Accession signed by Hari
>Singh that refers to the necessity of validating it by the exercise of 
>the will of the people. However, one of the two documents signed 
>by Mountbatten, when he accepted the accession, did contain the
>following lines:
> 
>  ".... it is my government's wish that as soon as law and order
>have been restored in Kashmir and her soil cleared of the invader,
>the question of the State's accession should be settled by a 
>reference to the people".

>  This was in a personal letter to Hari Singh on 27th Oct., 1947.
>Surprisingly in the formal acceptance of the accession on the same
>day, there is no mention of this. The principle of self-determination


	
	The above quote of Mountbatten is infact from his formal
acceptance letter (and not from a personal letter) to Hari Singh.
The relevant portion of the letter is as follows:

	"In the special circumstances mentioned by Your Highness,
my Government has decided to accept the accession of Kashmir State
to the Dominion of India.  Consistent with their policy that, in 
the case of any State where the issue of accession has been the
subject of dispute, the question of accession should be decided
in accordance with the wishes of the people of the State, it is
my Government's wish that, as soon as law and order have been 
restored in Kashmir and her soil cleared of the invader, the
question of the State's succession should be settled by a reference
to the people."

	The point to note above is that the Government of India
acknowledged that the accession of Jammu and Kashmir (a) took
place under exceptional circumstances, and (b) was disputed.  It
is also acknowledged that the govt. policy in the case of a
disputed accession would be to have a plebiscite of some sort
to settle the issue.

	From what I have been able to gather, a disputed accession
meant a case where the ruler of a State did not belong to the
community to which the majority of his subjects belonged, and where
the State did not accede to the country whose majority was the
same as the State's.  From this point of view, the accession of
Hyderabad and Junagarh to India were not disputed cases, since
they acceeded to a country whose majority community was the same
as the State's.

	Kashmir is, therefore, the only state whose accession
can be called 'disputed'.  How the Indian govt. claimed
this accession to be 'final' in the 1950's and decided that
the policy of settling the issue with 'reference to the
people' was no longer needed is another story.


					Gauri.
From: bkannan@HO12.ENG.UA.EDU (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Yet more Excerpts
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:06:50 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mrugank va thakor <mthakor@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: INFO NEEDED ON 1-BR APTS IN MONTREAL
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 23:00:54 GMT

I'm going to have a job in Montreal beginning September and would appreciate
knowing the following:

1. Can I get an apartment "downtown" (would that be the Westmount, St.Henri,
St. Joseph areas?) for about Can$500-550?

2. What are the "good" areas to live in/ the areas Indians usually live in?

3. What's the best way to look for an apartment? Are there apartment guides 
available like there are in the U.S. where different complexes advertise? Or
should I just take a plane up and plan to spend a few days apt. hunting?

Besides the above, *any* info. you can provide will be very helpful, since it's
difficult to come up with good sources of info sitting here in Indiana.

Thanks --- Mrugank
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14820 soc.culture.indian.american:1826
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.american
Subject: Homeland
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:17:10 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T


I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Dhaval Vasavada's idea of forming an
independent nation of Gujarat.  We are sick of carrying India on our back. 
Gujaratis must have liebensraum.  Gujarat should annex Maharastra, since it
was orginally part of Gujarat.  


Rakesh Patel (rrp@hotld.att.com)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gulati@skorpio.Usask.CA (Neeraj Gulati)
Subject: Going to Ind. after May17 by BA, from Chicago?
Keywords: British Airways, Chicago-New Delhi
Reply-To: gulati@skorpio.Usask.CA (Neeraj Gulati)
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:32:28 GMT

If you are travelling to New Delhi from
Chicago (via London, England), by British Airways
after May 17, could you please contact me. I just
want to know if someone is getting a better deal
than the one being offered to me.

Thanks,
Neeraj.
--
From: bkannan@HO12.ENG.UA.EDU (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian English
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:46:30 GMT


From: vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Subject: Indian English
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:31:01 GMT

>  "Issac New Ton is great scientist. In India, apple falls on head and he go 
>back to invent Gravity. He is friend and follower of Mahatma Gandhi in fight 
>for freedom.There is a statue to him with long coat and long hair. He great
> man.
 
>And the cow one :
>  "A cow has 2 horns with sharp points and Bull between tham. It has 4 legs and
>stands on its own feet". It ended with a touch of logic, "A cow gives milk
>which we drink. Therefore, it is our mother."


    How about these? 
   
    "You three, both of you kneel down together separately"

    "There is no wind in the ball (deflated football)"

    "Run with the fence" (alongside)

    "Look at the line on your back" (falling in line)

    "Apply Apply, No reply" (common one)

    "Why aren't you kneel downing?"
      
      ...................................

    I sometimes feel that it is the P.T. Masters (Instructors?) that
    have contributed in great measure to "Indian English " 

    Balaji Kannan


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian