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From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: So how do I get 256 colors now?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:40:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
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In article <1689B11793.CJR10@CCCVM.CCC.AMDAHL.COM> cjr10@cccvm.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Russell) writes:
>From: cjr10@cccvm.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Russell)
>Subject: Re: So how do I get 256 colors now?
>Date: 11 Nov 92 03:52:44 GMT

[correct method to install video drivers deleted]

>Now Gary Hennigan suggested using just DSPINSTL from an OS/2 prompt.
>I read that too late to try it myself, but sounds like a good short-
>cut.

It would be if it worked. DSPINSTL won't copy all those font files you 
noticed getting changed. This will make just about all onscreen text look 
like crap.

>I saved a DIR /S listing before and after my procedure and compared.
>I found that some font files had changed (HELV, TIMES, COURIER) and
>gotten larger. I don't know if it picked these off of the GA disks
>or the CSD disks. Anyone know? It also replaced IBMVGA32.DLL and

They're off of the GA disks.

>IBMDEV32.DLL (which could only have come from the CSD). Also, we
>added WSPDT480.DRV and WSST480.DRV (or something like that, my
>post-it is a little fuzzy where I wrote that done).
> 
>My SWAPPER.DAT runs a little large now (I saw it around 8M when I
>had a few things open). So it goes. I'm happy. Thanks to those who
>offered advice on this.
> 

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Printing on Deskjets?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:42:57 GMT

In article <Nov.3.13.02.55.1992.5286@gandalf.rutgers.edu> lclarke@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Lee Clarke) writes:
>I know this is dumb, but I can't figure out how to printer to Deskjet, and
>Deskjet Plus. The Deskjet 500 selection doesn't work well. TIA

It does work after you have applied the Service Pack.  Quite well, in
fact.

Also, there's a beta DeskJet driver available via anonymous ftp from
software.watson.ibm.com.

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From: worm+@CMU.EDU (Rahul Verma)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: TCP/IP for OS/2
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:43:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4ez=QHm00iV3M6Cnh1
	<JR5051.92Nov6212457@cehp17.coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>>TCP/IP for os/2 is also made by IBM. If you have access to the
>>educational discounts, you get the whole deal for less than $300. This
>>software is pretty good (although LaMail, the mail reader is below
>>average) and IBM really does take care of the users well. The whole deal
>>includes X, TCP/IP (with lots of adaptors supported). I would recommend
>>it to anyone.
> 
>     Do you know if slip is supported?   Thanks!
> 
     
yes it does support SLIP although I haven't actually used it (token ring
is so much faster!). It has all kinds of options including automatic
dialing and other such things.

Rahul Verma
worm+@cmu.edu
From: msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS/2 Icons
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:11:40 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1992Nov10.154707.26088@spock.UUCP> kurgan@spock.uucp (Andrew Twyman) writes:

	   Can anyone tell me if it is possible to access the built in OS/2
   icons for use on programs?  Also, how can one transfer Windows .ICO files
   to OS/2?  Thank's in advance.
					   -Andrew Twyman

Sure.  Pick the program object whose icon you like.  Open its
settings, go to the [General] tab, and choose <Edit>.  When the icon
editor opens, choose, under [Edit], [Select All] then [Copy].

Go to the program object you want to receive this icon.  Do the same
steps to get to the icon editor, and then [Paste].  No prob.

To transfer Windows .ICO files, you should pick up WINICON.ZOO off of
hobbes.nmsu.edu.  This will rewrite a Windows icon into an OS/2 icon,
which you can then use by choosing <Find> off the [General] tab.

						Michael

--
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Department of Civil Engineering Computer Lab TA / to be utterly and
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: spexet@math.lsa.umich.edu (D. Robert Spexet II)
Subject: OS/2 version of Lotus Improv?
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:40:13 GMT

I have just read an announcement about Lotus porting Improv (their
lovely spreadsheet program on the NeXT machines) to Windows.  Does anyone
here know their intentions on producing a PM version?


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:00:14 -0800
From: Bill_Connell@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Jumbo 250 MB QUI-80 & OS
Comment-To: Oddgeir_Kvien@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Bill_Connell@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/514

OK> I have just got a Jumbo 250 MB tape streamer. I have been trying
to 
OK> use it in a dos session under OS2 but with no much sucsess. I am
able  
OK> to back up some MB and then an error appears. (drive communication

OK> error, error uppdating fat on tape or something similar). I am
using 
OK> the tape software which came with the tape. 
I believe there is a readme file stating it needs to be run in a Dos
VDM 
 
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 * Origin: OS/2 Connection @ La Jolla, CA  <619-558-9475> (1:202/514)
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From: clemens@faui8a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Clemens Beckstein)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: GTAK with the Service Pak
Date: 6 Nov 1992 08:42:36 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui8a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mike Kretzer) writes:

>Has anyone tried using the GTAK tape backup software on OS/2 2.0 with
>the Service Pak applied?  GTAK used to work fine before I applied the
>Service Pak.  Now, when the computer reaches the line 'BASDEV=SCSITAPE.DMD...'
>I get an error 'Exception in AHA154X...'.  I have isolated the error
>to the SCSITAPE.DMD driver.  If I remove this line, OS/2 boots up fine,
>along with the ASPI driver included with the Service Pak.  Has anyone
>else experienced similar errors?  It looks like we need a new SCSITAPE.DMD!! 

works like a charm here ---- assuming you mean gtak201
(except for the +compare cmd that causes a SYS3175 whenever I specify
a directory or no file at all at the tar cmd line;
and neither worked compression with it...
but as far as I recall these things did not work without the GA either).

- Clemens
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: ryan@nas.nasa.gov (James S. Ryan)
Subject: Icon Formats (Was Re: OS/2 Icons)
Keywords: icon
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 23:50:21 GMT

When editing icons, I find that it is possible to save
them in any of a number of different formats, and that
many combinations of resolution and number of colors are
possible.

I tried to learn about these formats in all of the online help,
under every name I could think of.  No dice.  Can't find anything
in the FAQ or by lurking in these newsgroups.  If you can help,
please answer:

1) If there is more than one format stored, which one will be
   used in a given situation (screen resolution/driver, etc.)

2) I see that the icons appear to be about the same size regardless
   of the size of bitmap which is stored.  How is the scaling
   done?  (e.g., if I make a 64x64 icon, and display it on a
   screen where it covers only 20x20 pixels, does it average 
   color values?  throw pixels away?  what?)

3) There is the option of storing the icon in (pardon my faulty
   memory of the terms) forms such as 1.2, 2.0 and 2.0 packed.
   a) is 2.0 incompatible with 1.2 systems?
   b) is 2.0 better than 1.2 for 2.0 systems?
   c) what is "2.0 packed", and why doesn't that button work?

4) Anything else I should have asked.  I may not know enough
   to ask the right questions!

Thanks,

Steve Ryan

ryan@nas.nasa.gov

Not an employee of nas, nasa, or the gov, so I don't speak for them.
From: grasshof@rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Gerd Grasshoff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Logitech's Scanman and OS2 Support
Keywords: Not support for os2
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:40:23 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg, FRG

I wante
I wanted to use the hand-scanner Scanman 256 from Logitech,
which is sold with Windows software. After installing it various
tests suggested that the DMA induced errors. Phoning up the
technical support of Logitech in Germany this morning, I had to
learn that the product doesn't work under os2, that Logitech
has no intention to support it, because it has a market share
of only 1.5% (they claim). The support man spread rumours, that
the version 2.01 has a driver for scanman. Logitech wants to 
support only windows nt in the future. 

My question: Is there a cure? Not for the company, but for my
problem not being able to use scanman? 

Gerd Grasshoff
Uni Hamburg
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nasir Ahmed Noor)
Subject: MORPHING on OS/2...How?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:33:24 GMT


Does any software package exist which allows Morphing on OS/2? Dos?
Windows?

thanks.

--nasir
umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: byu@sys.toronto.edu (Benjamin Yu)
Subject: Describe 4.0 out
Organization: University of Toronto
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:08:43 GMT

I got Describe 4.0 running on my 4M, 80M 386SX/25 notebook.  Pretty impressive.
Like the stylesheet a lot.  No equation editor.

Benjamin Yu
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From: dhalem@cats.ucsc.edu (Daniel Aaron Halem)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Mouse problems with winos2...
Date: 5 Nov 1992 20:41:05 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


I have a mouse systems pc-mouse III.  I called mouse systems and they gave directioins on how to get the three-buttons to work.  But the three buttons don't    work with win os/2.

Any suggestions?

please email:dhalem@cats.ucsc.edu

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From: markm@iris.mincom.oz.au (Mark McCafferty)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Problems with Telix (and more)
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:30:32 GMT
Organization: Mincom, Brisbane, Australia
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Joshua Chessman (jchessma@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: As a relatively new user to OS/2 I am having some problems that I
: was hoping someone out their could help me with.  I just recently
: purchased a high speed modem (Zoom 14.4 V.32bis modem).  I am
: using Telix as a communications package and have setup the DOS
: settings as OS/2 recommends.

As an aside, I have heard (unsubstantiated) that telix 3.15 has problems
with fast modems but that 3.12 works OK.

mark
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: cs139121@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Todd Kepus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: WIN 3.1 an OS?
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:14:08 GMT
Organization: California State University, Sacramento

This goes out to Wolfgang, Brian, Fred, and any others who continue to
debate whether or not WIN 3.1 is an operating system.

First, there are 3 cases...

1. Win 3.1 is not an operating system.

2. Win 3.1 is an operating system, but requires DOS to execute.

3. Win 3.1 is an operating system, doesn't really need DOS at all, but
Microsoft makes one 'need' it so they can continue to sell DOS to
Windows users.

Obviously, you probably wouldn't agree with case one, otherwise there
would be no debate.  The second case is debatable, but will never be won
because you won't convince most people on this thread that WIN 3.1 is an
operating system AND it still needs DOS.

What do you think about the last case?  Is it below Microsoft?

Anyways, lets assume that WIN 3.1 is an operating system.  Then we can
compare it to OS/2.

How do they compare?

Well, OS/2 has preemptive multitasking, and can run almost all DOS
applications quickly and efficiently.  For example, Borland C++ 3.1 runs
perfectly under OS/2.  At the same time, one can be downloading from a
BBS.  Personally, I do this quite often.

I think that these two features ( preemptive multitasking + DOS ) coupled
to the fact that OS/2 is indeed a stable platform is what most users
enjoy so much about OS/2.  

Now a little about NT...

That doesn't mean that if NT is indeed superior that I and other users
won't switch.  However, what we (OS/2 users) consistently hear about NT
is that it doesn't run DOS apps as well as OS/2, and it requires more
than 8MB of memory.  For most users, more than 8MB is too expensive.  It
was hard enough to afford 8MB.

Lets accept the fact that WIN 3.1 is basically an operating system.  Now
lets compare it to OS/2.  I think that would be more suited to this
thread.  That's why they call it advocacy.

-Todd Kepus
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: FAGER@gribb.hsr.no (Fagerland, Svein      94/96)
Subject:  *   TO:  ROBERT L. SILLET   * 
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:27:14 GMT


FIRST: Let me thank you for your answer !

I got an extencive and informing answer from you, and that really helped me
alot ! 

I tried to post a relpy, but my mail got returned by the mail server, so
I am mailing you here in the newsgroup.

I have had a few problems with my system, and it took me a long time to 
find out what it really was. It ended up with a defect Trident 8900c card, 
and one of the harddisks were incorrectly set up, but I think i am at the
right track now.

I am still triing to setup the tcp/ip package, and unnfortionatly the message
i got from you got truncated, so it would be great if you sent me another 
copy of your config.sys protman.ini and the other config files.

By the way, I really liked the ini-backup sequence you had in your config.
sys, so much in fact that I have copied it :-)

Well, thanks again. 

Hoping to recieve an answer shortly.

Yours truly


 Svein Fagerland * HSR Stavanger Norway * Running OS/2 2.0.1 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: jmalloy@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Joseph T. Malloy)
Subject: Re: Windows vs. OS/2
Organization: Hamilton College - Clinton, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:13:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.165329.5878@nosc.mil> discar@nosc.mil (Joe Discar) writes:
>I've been thinking about all these arguments about which OS is "better" 
>(indeed whether Windows could be considered an OS or not).  So I thought that
>if there were people out there who could put up or shut up, I thought that
>perhaps we could begin to put the issue at rest.
>
>So what I propose is that we get some volunteers from both the Windows and
>OS/2 camps to each do a "project"--for example, laying out the cover of a
>published magazine (say, the Nov 10,1992 issue of PC Magazine)--each 
>using his/her favorite operating platform, using their favorite software
>that runs under their favorite OS.   When they get finished, they upload
>it to a judging site (to be determined) where other volunteers view their
>work.  Then each designer basically tells us *how* they did it, and how
>*long* it took them to do it--we give more points for the first one
>submitted.
>
While I'm sympathetic to the idea that motivates this proposal, I think
it's nonetheless flawed.  Assuming for the moment that one already had
the necessary graphics images in some convertible format (tif, bmp, pcx,
cgm, eps, whatever), an experienced user of WordPerfect for DOS 5.x
could do it.  I think the test says less about an OS than it does about
the programs chosen and the skill levels of their users.  

OTOH, do we really want to deny ourselves of the great charm in this
"tastes great/less filling" OS argument?  :)  What else would we do
without it?   Work?  (Hah!)

Joe
jmalloy@hamilton.edu
>


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: discar@nosc.mil (Joe Discar)
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 an "operating system"?
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:00:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.225251.14539@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>In <7734@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov5.165623.808@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>>In <7714@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>>>>A neat analogy, Fred, but wrong: what does an OS do that DOS doesn't?
>>>Gee, Jay, tell me what definition of 'OS' you're using.  :-)
>
>>A suite of programs that insulates application code from the necessities of
>>dealing directly with the hardware.
>
>And a reasonable definition it is, too.  Ok.  DOS fails the test
>because:
>
>1) Anything doing graphics pretty much has to go straight to hardware,
>the 'insulation' that DOS provides being so worthless.
>

Fred, DOS provides (via the BIOS) functions to switch to graphics modes nad
plot pixels on the screen.   The routines are slow and don't work
(naturally) with graphics modes that came out AFTER DOS's/BIOS design.
But from a realistic standpoint, it can't been expected that ALL hardware
will be supported by an OS.  Take for example my Lantastic network card--
it doesn't work under OS/2 under any circumstances (even if I try to use
a generic NE2000 driver).  Does this mean OS/2 is not an operating 
system?  No... of course not, it means my network card is not
quite a standard.

>2) Accessing upper memory.  DOS is so braindead that it requires
>'extenders' to get outside 640k.  So much for 'insulation' on
>management of the majority of memory on the machine.
>

So, there is no requirement for an OS to be able to access ALL of memory
(various operating systems running in a VM can't).  

Again, if you could find such a requirement, cite a bibliographical
reference and I'll get off your back.

>Shall I continue?  ;-)
>
>-- 
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> in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: roland@spock.uucp (David A. Braun)
Subject: Win 3.1 Disks
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:04:24 GMT

Win. 3.1 Disks...

Microsoft(r) Windows (TM)
        Operating System
        ...
        1) insert this disk in drive A.
        2) type a: and press ENTER.
        3) type SETUP and press ENTER.

Well, where do I type a: from? I turn on the computer and it says:
	"OS not found"
So I try installing it like DOS or OS/2. I insert the 'setup' disk in drive
and turn on the power... 'Please insert disk with OS in drive and press any
key to continue' Hmmmm... This only kinda implies that THERE IS NO OS ON THE
WIN 3.1 DISKS!!! ok, no arguement...

Roland.
From: rvenkate@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Ravikuma Venkateswar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Macintosh bigots
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:05:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

TW.FY4@isumvs.iastate.edu (Timothy I Miller) writes:

stuff deleted
>Macs are awesome.  My point is, the IBM can do it with the right
>software and hardware, just like the Mac needs the right software
>and hardware.  The difference is, with an IBM, you get to choose
>what hardware you're going to use, and pay a reasonable price for
>it.  With a Mac, you have to use the built in stuff (which isn't all
>that bad) or pay a bundle to use more quality hardware.

So I guess I'm pro-choice.
-- 
Ravikumar Venkateswar
rvenkate@uiuc.edu

A pun is a no' blessed form of whit.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: roland@spock.uucp (David A. Braun)
Subject: Re:  Why does OS/2 loose out in a PC Mag comparison test?
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:09:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.182111.29298@nmt.edu> stimpy@nmt.edu (John Reynolds) writes:
>I've never ever seen a professional unbiased review of OS/2's capabilities
>in any of the rags. If anyone has, I'd like to know about it. OS/2 is
>getting a bum-rap in my opinion. Most of the people that I've talked to,
>use the rags opinion as 'the word' and won't budge until I bring them
>over and show them what it can do (ala the 'why I love OS/2 thread').
>
Actually, I have read two pretty favourable reviews of OS/2 2.0, both by
a certain Mark Minasi. See one of this year's Byte special issues,
"Essential Guide to Windows", p. 55, "The OS/2 Alternative", and
the September (or October) issue of Compute.

------

I recall a *very* favourable article in PC/Computing in, I believe, March, just
before 2.0 was released, which is what convinced me to get OS/2...

Roland.