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From: mzajac@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Stephen Zajac)
Subject: job announcement
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:22:19 GMT

I am posting this for a friend.  Please direct enquiries to the Faculty of
Architecture:  (204) 474-9558, fax:  (204) 275-7198, or to the address below
---------------
 
Applications are invited for a tenure track appointment at the Assistant 
Professor rank for the Departments of Architecture and City Planning.  
Appointment to begin July 1, 1993.  Candidates must have a professional 
degree in Architecture with advanced studies in City Planning and 
Computer Aided Design.  Candidates should hold at least a Master's degree 
in Architecture or City Planning.  Teaching experience is required.  
Salary will be commensurate with qualifications and experience.  The 
successful candidate must be qualified to teach design studio, Computer 
Aided Design, and Computer Aided Planning Courses.  He/She will maintain 
a central role in the development and organization of a Faculty computer 
centre and should therefore have previous experience in dealing with 
industry.  The successful candidate will also develop and deliver 
training programs, direct service contracts employing CAD, and be 
responsible for preparing service contract applications.  The University 
of Manitoba encourages applications from qualified women and men, 
including members of visible minorities, aboriginal people, and persons 
with disabilities.  The University provides a smoke-free work 
environment, save for specially designated areas.  Priority consideration 
will be given to Canadian citizens and permanent residents.  Submit 
curriculum vitae and three letters of reference to:  Dr. Mario Carvalho, 
Associate Dean, Faculty of Architecture, University of Manitoba, 
Winnipeg, Manitoba, R3T 2N2 before December 31, 1992.
 

-- 
Michael Zajac (Dept of Landscape Architecture)
University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, MB R3T 2N2
phone:  (204) 474 6449
From: gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (David Caruso II)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: I Love Wolves.
Date: 1 Jan 93 17:11:31 CST
Organization: America, Planet Earth

	Wolves, like all animals, are very special creatures.  They deserve
our respect, as do all animals, and all living things, forever.


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 David Caruso II                               Email: gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
From: Barry H. Rabin <bhr@inel.gov>
Subject: Re: F&WS DNA test results
Organization: Materials Research
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 16:38:49 GMT

In article <Dec.22.18.59.13.1992.15807@pilot.njin.net> Shag,
birchall@pilot.njin.net writes:
In article <Dec.22.18.59.13.1992.15807@pilot.njin.net> Shag,
birchall@pilot.njin.net writes:

>Could someone please post the working definition of "wolf-like animal" in
>this case?  Was said animal not identifiable by conventional means, or
was
>there some possibility of it being either a new subspecies or one which
was
>not thought to inhabit the region?

The definition of "wolf-like animal" is required because there are
serious policy (read: political) implications depending upon whether the
animal is actually a wolf as apposed to some wolf-dog or wolf-cayote
hybrid.  If the animal is a pure Grey Wolf that has moved into the
Yellowstone ecosystem, e.g. from Canada, Montana or Central Idaho where
they currently inhabit, then wolf recovery in Yellowstone can be expected
to take place by natural recolonization, with full protection under the
Endangered Species Act.  Alternatively, if wolves are not recolonizing,
then the agencies will push to proceed with their Wolf Reintroduction
Plan, which involves reintroduction, but, at the expense of full
protection since the animals would be classified as an experimental
population subject to management (read: killing) if they wander outside
of the Park or cause "problems".

So, just because it looks like a wolf and acts like a wolf, it is only
wolf-like.  The DNA testing was supposed to answer this question,
however, it seems that this previously reliable, definitive and
frequently used classification technology has suddenly come up short. I
for one would like to see the test results for myself.
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From: vkunch@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Virginia P Kunch)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Re: other ways to tell dog from wolf
Date: 3 Jan 1993 14:50:17 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Just a couple things:

1.  Many breeds of dogs have "hackles", the fur along the spine that stands
up (also called piloerection), which involuntarily respond to threat or
aggression (much as blushing is an involuntary response to embarassment in 
humans).  How far along the spine the hair stands up is usually a pretty
good indicator of how aroused s/he is.  In fact, it's one of the ways (along
with other behavioral indicators) I distinguish whether my dog is "playing"
with a companion.

2.  Shedding in the spring is also common with most dogs, particularly those
that have spent a great deal of time outdoors through the winter.  Humans
also begin to "shed" their winter attire in spring, yes?

About the tooth thing, I've never heard of that, but I'll check my sources.

-ginny
vkunch@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
From: vkunch@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Virginia P Kunch)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Re: F&WS DNA test results
Date: 31 Dec 1992 14:50:58 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

It seems that I've posted this information before, but for clarity's sake,
I'll do it again:

Re:  DNA testing.  AT THIS TIME, THERE IS NO DEFINITIVE TEST TO DIFFERENTIATE
A WOLF FROM A DOG!!!  Dr. Robert Wayne, THE canid geneticist, at UCLA has been
working like mad to try to develop/refine such a test, under the frantic
urgings of a wide variety of groups, including wildlife officials, hybrid owners, cattle ranchers, etc.

Not knowing the details of the case, I cannot provide any further insight into
this particular investigation, but, if you're waiting for DNA fingerprinting to
tell you if that critter is Canis lupus or Canis familiaris, you may be waiting
awhile.  What these tests might be looking for is whether or not said animal
is related to any of the wolves in the surrounding area (ambiguous term), which
DNA testing can do.

ginny
vkunch@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


while.  winfrom

Newsgroups: alt.wolves
From: asatj@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: Alaska wolf hunt called off
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:28:45 GMT

  On Monday, December 21,1992, after lengthy debate with his employees, Carl
Rosier, the head of the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, used his executive
powers to halt the planned wolf hunt, finally giving in to pressure.  Governor
Wally Hickel approved his action.  In effect, he over-rode the decision of the
Board of Game, which had been planning to meet in January.  I am not sure if
this means that the hunt is off for good for 1993 or if it is simply a post-
ponement, though it sounds like the former.  Rosier stated that Alaska cannot
ignore the perceptions of the public in other states.  The Wolf Summit is still
scheduled to happen in Fairbanks in mid-January.  This whole affair has been
called a public relations disaster for Alaska, second only to the Exxon Valdez.
 
Alan Julliard
From: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: other ways to tell do
Date: 3 Jan 93 23:48:37 EST
Reply-To: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

On 01-02-93 STORMWIND wrote:

S>additional notes: when i got her she was only 5 weeks old
S>and just barely had her teeth. when she barks at people she
S>doesn't like or know, a thick stripe of hair from her neck
S>ruff down her back to her tail stands up. (i haven't seen
S>this in other dogs, but i'm not ruling it out).
S
Sit's not unusual.  there's a dog called a
Srhodesian ridgeback that's popular amongst
Shunters that has this same strip of hair
Spermanently standing on edge.  i've also seen
Sother varieties of dogs with the medium-length
Shair exhibit this tendency, but it's rarely
Sseen with really short haired or long haired
Sdogs.

It's called "getting his/her hackles up."

                   |
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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Re: F&WS DNA test results
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:59:13 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

bhr@inel.gov (Barry H. Rabin) writes:

>After repeatedly postponing the announcement of the long awaited DNA test
>results for the wolf-like animal shot near Yellowstone...

Could someone please post the working definition of "wolf-like animal" in
this case?  Was said animal not identifiable by conventional means, or was
there some possibility of it being either a new subspecies or one which was
not thought to inhabit the region?

-Shag (not shot on last visit to Y-stone, despite being a wolf-like animal ;)

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Newsgroups: alt.wolves
From: Barry H. Rabin <bhr@inel.gov>
Subject: F&WS DNA test results
Organization: Materials Research
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 23:40:36 GMT

After repeatedly postponing the announcement of the long awaited DNA test
results for the wolf-like animal shot near Yellowstone, the U.S. Fish and
Wildlife Service finally stated that the tests were inconclusive as to
whether the animal was a wolf or not.  Come on!  Does anyone find this
questionable?  DNA testing was supposed to provide the last
word...irrefutable proof.  Is there political motivation at work here?
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Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Is anyone out there?
From: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:50:41 GMT
Reply-To: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

I'm having some trouble with getting messages from this news group.  Can someone post to it to help me track down the problem?
thanks,
Sandy
From: 1012breuckma@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: wolf summit
Date: 22 Dec 1992 14:26:30 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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   ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- A state plan to kill at least 300 wolves
has been postponed, but a public relations battle goes on with
information that skirts the bounds of accuracy.  
   Two national animal-rights groups have been running ads in
newspapers nationwide arguing against the plan for an aerial wolf
kill and promoting tourism boycotts of Alaska.  
   One activist said his group's ad is "intentionally vague," while
the other argued that any flaws need to be measured against the
rightmindedness of the overall message.  
   Earlier this month, Gov. Walter J. Hickel, inundated with phone
calls and letters opposing the plan, shelved it pending a "wolf
summit" beginning Jan. 16. 
   State biologists hope that reducing the number of wolves in two
areas of the eastern interior region will boost populations of moose
and caribou, two game species popular with hunters and wolves. 
   The gray wolf is extinct or endangered in most of the Lower 48
states, but a healthy population of more than 6,000 wolves thrives in
Alaska.  
   An ad by the New York-based Fund for Animals says, "Most
outrageous of all, much of (the shooting) will take place on your
federal lands."  
   But the vast majority of the action is planned for state lands,
and Wayne Pacelle, the fund's national director, said he knows that. 
   "It is not a majority of federal land, and we were careful not to
say that it was a majority," he said from his office in Silver
Spring, Md. "The wording is intentionally vague."  
   The quarter-page ad, which cost $15,000 each run, was scheduled to
appear in the Los Angeles Times for a third time on Tuesday. It
appeared last week in The New York Times and The Washington Times.  
   Pacelle said Alaska's size provided some leeway in phrasing the
ad. While the two areas targeted for wolf control comprise about 3
percent of Alaska, "'For people in Connecticut or Massachusetts or
Maryland, even what's considered a small percentage in Alaska is
substantial," he said.  
   "We certainly stand by the full message of the ad -- an aerial
slaughter of wolves is going to take place. And we believe a lot of
wolves that spend time on federal land are going to be killed."  
   The group Friends of Animals, based in Norwalk, Conn., ran an ad
in USA Today that referred to a "huge" portion of wilderness subject
to wolf control and said: "(Wolf shooting) would be aimed at
artificially inflating herds of moose and caribou -- which already
number over a million -- to create a 'wildlife spectacle' attractive
to hunters and tourists."  
   While the state estimates of the overall moose and caribou
populations run about 1 million, Bruce Bartley, a Fish and Game
spokesman, said half of that is made up of the remote and virtually
inaccessible Western Arctic caribou herd.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 31 Dec 1992 16:47:04 CST
From: <U23700@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: other ways to tell dog from wolf
 <1992Dec23.163849.28211@inel.gov> <1hv1ciINNj27@uwm.edu>


hi, i have a dog which was a birthday gift, and all i know is she
was reputed to be part wolf. (my sister found her and a bunch of
other pups at a moving sale; she said the mother was chained up
away from the puppies and when she asked why, the owners said
the mother had turned on the puppies. my puppy and a few others
had scrapes and scratches from the mother...) anyway, she's get-
ting older and i've never known for sure. a couple years ago i
took her to a dog obediance training course led by a woman who
had an m.s. in animal behaviorism. the instructor told me that
all dogs have little spurs on their teeth at the gum line, and
that wolves do not. she looked at my dog's teeth and pronounced
her all dog. does anyone know if this is a good way to tell?

just wondering. oh -- my dog's mother was supposedly half-wolf.
obviously for some reason the mother turned on the pups. my dog
also has picked many fights with other dogs, including our other
dog whom she's ripped open a couple times (the last time so badly
that we keep them totally separate now); she also picked fights
with dogs in our obediance class. might this type of "social mal-
adjustment" on the mother's part and on my dog's part indicate her
being part wolf, or is she just a strange dog?

additional notes: when i got her she was only 5 weeks old
and just barely had her teeth. when she barks at people she
doesn't like or know, a thick stripe of hair from her neck
ruff down her back to her tail stands up. (i haven't seen
this in other dogs, but i'm not ruling it out). she gets a
winter coat and sheds it like crazy in the spring, but she
also has beautiful reversed husky markings (light markings on
dark gray body), so maybe spring shedding is a husky thing??

any info would be helpful; thanks in advance.

m.
From: amazon@sgi.com (Stormwind)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Re: other ways to tell dog from wolf
Date: 31 Dec 92 23:43:44 GMT
Organization: X Industries, Heavy Weapons R&D

m. writes:
>anyway, she's get-
>ting older and i've never known for sure. a couple years ago i
>took her to a dog obediance training course led by a woman who
>had an m.s. in animal behaviorism. the instructor told me that
>all dogs have little spurs on their teeth at the gum line, and
>that wolves do not. she looked at my dog's teeth and pronounced
>her all dog. does anyone know if this is a good way to tell?

i've never heard this before, and 
i certainly don't remember any little
spurs on my previous terrier's teeth.

i once heard a rumor about wolfiness
being associated with the lack/presence
of dewclaws, but i think this was only
supposed to indicate "true wolfness".
triss, whose mom was a german shepard
and whose father was a wild alaskan
wolf, did not have the classic dewclaws.

>just wondering. oh -- my dog's mother was supposedly half-wolf.
>obviously for some reason the mother turned on the pups. my dog
>also has picked many fights with other dogs, including our other
>dog whom she's ripped open a couple times (the last time so badly
>that we keep them totally separate now); she also picked fights
>with dogs in our obediance class. might this type of "social mal-
>adjustment" on the mother's part and on my dog's part indicate her
>being part wolf, or is she just a strange dog?

probably just an irritable animal that has
problems with other dogs.  triss was so 
painfully shy around other dogs we almost
had to DRAG her into obedience school classes.
she also enjoyed playing, sleeping, and 
socializing with the dog next door after 
the dog knocked a board off the fence and
came to visit.

however, a good friend of mine tells of
experiences with breeding german shepards,
and of the several chairs they destroyed
trying to break up fights amongst the shepards.
fighting with other dogs definitely isn't
a good indicator of wolfiness.

>additional notes: when i got her she was only 5 weeks old
>and just barely had her teeth. when she barks at people she
>doesn't like or know, a thick stripe of hair from her neck
>ruff down her back to her tail stands up. (i haven't seen
>this in other dogs, but i'm not ruling it out). 

it's not unusual.  there's a dog called a
rhodesian ridgeback that's popular amongst
hunters that has this same strip of hair 
permanently standing on edge.  i've also seen
other varieties of dogs with the medium-length
hair exhibit this tendency, but it's rarely 
seen with really short haired or long haired
dogs.  

			stormwind

			hell's amazon
Newsgroups: alt.society.anarchy
From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Subject: Re: Looking for Anarchism refs to read
Reply-To: pmetzger@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers
	<1992Dec21.235915.10521@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 17:41:49 GMT


In article <1992Dec21.235915.10521@vela.acs.oakland.edu> w2lee@argo.acs.oakland.edu (Walter Lee) writes:


>"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", like most of the Bob Heinlein books I've read,
>is not about a fictional anarchical society.  It is about a fictional penal
>colony that evolved into a center for destructive testing of human beings. 
>Although Mike's payroll check stunt did have some _honestly_ anarchic
>implications.

I don't know who's book you read, but "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"
does indeed largely depict an anarchist society. An anarchocapitalist
society, certainly, which is bound to disgust certain
antipropertarians on this list (I'm a propertarian myself), but it is
indisputably an anarchist society. Other than an impotent governor
who's men serve solely to attempt to try to collect money from
exports, the penal colony has no internal government whatsoever and is
depicted as functioning entirely on a customary legal basis. Is not
the definition of an anarchy a society (hopefully a functioning one)
without a government? 

I suspect your claim is based on some notion that anarchism must be
collectivist in flavor. Just because I don't like the society in "The
Dispossessed" by Le Guin doesn't mean I wouldn't admit its an anarchy.
Similarly, you shouldn't claim that the society in "The Moon is a
Harsh Mistress" isn't an anarchy just because you don't like it.



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Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
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From: triley@weber.ucsd.edu (Tristan Riley)
Newsgroups: alt.society.anarchy,alt.individualism
Subject: Re: Anarchy in Somalia
Date: 29 Dec 1992 03:42:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <1hofpnINN1gf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bz269@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James D. Del Vecchio) writes:
>
>In a previous article, pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth) says:
>>225323.28356@vela.acs.oakland.edu> w2lee@argo.acs.oakland.edu:
>
>>Ain't that the truth.  The only way I have found to effectively deal with
>>this when talking to the theoretically uninitiated is to just say flat out
>>that there is no relation between Somalia and anarchy period end of story.
>>It sucks to have to be so closed about it, but I'm out of steam on it.
>
>	Gang rule & warring pseudo-governments.  Sounds like Somalia
>and sounds like anarchy.  Oh, you mean "there is no relation between
>Somalia and cool comic-book images of anarchy period end of story."
>If you meant that, then I agree 100%.

ah, yes, for those old 'comic book' days of Spain in the mid 1930s and
the Mahkonivist insurrection/commune in Russia in 1917 and the
Ferrer Colony in New Jersey and a zillion small collectives and
communes in the '60s some spanning right up until today.  good thing
the 'realists' are around to let us all know how utterly impossible
it is to get along without a government unless (of course) you just
want to live like a bunch of savages--otherwise someone might
actually check the historical record and find otherwise.
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