From: birge@guerciotti.EBay.Sun.COM (John Birge)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Pollitically Correct vs Morally Correct
Date: 6 Jan 1993 00:59:24 GMT
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I thought this might provoke an interesting conversation in this group
so I cross posted it here.

Originally John Birge (me) wrote:

>Obviously the politically correct version is "Abortion on Demand".
>However you'll have a difficult time convincing me that it's
>Morally Correct (please don't try this is not an abortion posting :^[ ).

In Reply to the above ----------- Writes:
(name puposely ommitted)

>The problem I have with this statement is that there are a great many people
>who don`t think abortion is immoral. Another good example would be the death
>penalty. This question could just as easily be asked, "When does a moral
>decision over ride a politically correct decision?". One example that jumps
>to mind is prostitution. If one adult wants to pay another adult to have sex
>with them, who are we to say "No, you can`t, that's immoral". There`s supposed
>to be a separation between the church and state, yet our judicial system is
>full of laws based upon morality.

...And ----------- continues:
(name puposely ommitted)

>Good examples indeed. Those particular ones didn't occur to me because 
>being both pro-choice and a supporter of the death penalty, I don't 
>consider them issues of morality.

Then the real question is how do we develop our moral precepts? At 
what point did we decide that slavery was immoral? Or when did we change
the precept that Abortion was immoral? Are laws against suicide simply
our imposition of religious values? How did we as human beings get to the 
point that we decided that rape and murder were immoral acts?

In Saudia Arabia they behead adulterers. Judaism teaches and eye for an 
eye where Christ said turn the other cheek. And what does Humanism say?

What is morality beside the collective perception of right and wrong?
Is religion anything other than that collective perception formalized?
 
The saying that "One mans Terrorist is another mans Freedom Fighter" 
sums up the dichotomy. If the Nazi's had won WWII then history would 
teach how the glorious Riech had cleansed Europe of the Zionist Scourge.  

Are the Politically Correct the New Age Puritan? 

Politically Correct Thought is intolerant of thought. Using the press, the 
courts and peer pressure they harass any thought that doesn't fall in line 
with the symbolism that the PC'ers have defined as correct. Forcing aberrant 
thought into the closet where it is never confronted. As exemplified by
Marge Schott's (??) racism being let out of that closet the  zealots 
screamed for her head. They demanded that she be punished for what is 
effectively thought. I'm sure that Schott is  far from the only racist 
in professional sports. However we will symbolically crucify her for 
daring to think outside of the politically accepted parameters. Will this
have any effect on racism in sports? Most likely it will only reinforce 
a racist's perception of the world and drive them deeper into the closet.

The Politically Correct bring us a world where a dolls (Barbi) comments 
about the difficulty of math brings down the  wrath of the PC'ers but 
they turn their heads as M tv provides footage exploitive of women hourly
which, by the way, is aimed directly at our youth.

PC dictum is intolerant of Manger scenes on public property but insist 
that the public funding of "Piss Christ" ( the picture of crucifix in a 
jar of piss) is a valid use of tax payers funds.

In the days of Leonardo Devinci the Roman Catholic Church Defined
Politically Correct Thought and today we are amused if not disgusted
with the results (center of the universe etc.). Is it any different today?
Should we punish people for thought? Do we punish people for thought? Ask 
Jimmy the Greek. What are hate crimes? Hate crimes attempt to reach inside 
a persons mind figure out just how that mind works and punish it for thinking 
outside the accepted standards.

In todays version of the politically correct thinking Tipper Gore becomes 
a political liability simply for advocating her view of morality, for 
wanting to shield children from the debauchery of todays society. Where 
sex and violence have replaced religion as the opiate of the masses. 
Where under the protection of the first amendment our children are
inundated with views of murder and torture everyday. Where  views of 
women in bondage are shown on M TV everyday. Where schools have decided 
to teach everything except morality or responsibility.  If one objects 
he/she is ostracized as a censor, a racist, a bigot, a prude. Chanting the 
mantra Separation of Church and State or Freedom of the Press localities 
are ham strung by small but vocal minorities. 

When Clinton confronted the female Rapper on her own turf he was accused
of pandering to Main Stream America, never mind the validity of his
statements. When Perot used verbage outside of the PC vernacular at the 
same Rainbow convention all context of the speech was lost as his "You
People" was seen as some form of Freudian racism. 

So the next question is where has this permissiveness taken us?

Our children are murdering and raping each other at an alarming
rate. Over 1500 young people will die in LA alone from violence this 
year, the glory of a gangsters life. Date Rape will continue to be an 
issue on campus. The polarization of the sex's continues to grow. Teen 
pregnancies and abortions increase yearly. More than 50% of marriages
end up in divorce. Sexually Transmitted Diseases have reached epidemic 
levels. Single mothers make up the largest segment of families living
below the poverty line in America. A million plus abortions are performed 
every year. Racism has as strong a foothold as ever. 

We have become a society of contradictions. Laws demanding equal treatment
for all are consistently overrulled by courts and regulatory bodies that
set quotas for specific groups who demand "more equal" treatment. We make
laws that force people to protect themselves (ie helmet laws) but any
suggestion that we teach sexual responsibility is greeted with bells and
whistles deploring the teaching of "RELIGIOUS VALUES" yet the results of 
our promiscuity line the wards of hospitals nationwide, effectively 
costing us billions in taxes and higher medical expenses. 

Now you may believe, based on the above, that I want more government
intervention. On the contrary, I want government to quit meddling.
I believe that the biggest problem with our society is our politicians
pandering to the vocal special interest. The effect has been an attempt
for a centralized government to dictate a politically correct morality to
small communities. The results are an obvious breakdown of our social 
structure and a polarization of our communities the results of which are 
obvious as stated above.