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From: dbasinge@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mike Basinger)
Subject: Re: Justice League new lineup?
Organization: Indiana University
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:12:06 GMT

Eric Fox (efox@unssun.nevada.edu) wrote:

: I can only hope the creative team will be changed and different characters 
: featured...

: Wait a minute...now that I think about it, I DO remember reading something aboutthe new League--something about it being a place for the new rising stars of
: DC (Black Condor and the Ray come to mind) or something like that..

: Anyhoo, IMHO, the JL has been going downhill ever since Maguire left and the
: "Breakdowns" crap...

: 				-Fox-


I think Wonder Woman is going to be in the line up.

Mike

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From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Cages - McKean 
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 01:30:10 GMT

I love the way that the inexplicable coloured bit in an earlier Cages - #4? -
turned out to be another person's experience of the pathworking run in #6.

Dave McKean is a _good_ artist... and an example of an artist who can damn well
tell a story as well as do the art. No McFarlanes here |-)

Tanaqui
From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: James Bond: Serpents tooth
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:04:27 GMT
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.

c60b-3fe@e260-3f.berkeley.edu (???) writes:

> 
>    My brother has been collecting the James Bond: Serpents tooth series
> out by Moench and Gulacy from Darkhorse.  The first two issues came out
> but its been a few months since #2 came out and we were wondering if
> anyone knows if anything has happened to delay its release.
> 

I've been collecting this and I think it is GREAT.  I haven't seen a 
third issue and I suspect they are just being slow.

Namaste,
Elizabeth
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From: mkelly@ovid.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Annotation 38
Keywords: sandman annotation
Reply-To: mkelly@ovid.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:19:43 GMT


 carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink) writes:

|> goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) writes:
|> 
|> > morrow@physics.rice.edu writes:
|> >)                         Issue 38:  "The Hunt"
|> >)             Neil Gaiman, Duncan Eagleson, and Vince Locke
|> >)	Panel 5:  Asafoetida:  A highly scented gum resin with a bitter acrid 
|> >)taste obtained from the roots of several plants of the genus _Ferula_ found in
|> >)Central Asia.  Some species of _Ferula_ are found in the Mediterranean area
|> >)as well, but these are not noted as yielding asafoetida.  The plants are 
|> >)typically tall with divided leaves.  _Ferula_ are umbelliferous, related to
|> >)carrots, celery, parsnips, and herbs such as parsley.
|> >)	(I got that with five minutes and a dictionary.  Does anyone have
|> >)the slightly clue what it -means-? :-)
|> 
|>    Also, asafoetida is the primary flavoring ingredient of 
|> Worcestershire sauce, along with anchovies.  No, really.

I should really pay more attention, because this may have been covered...but
asafetida (as I've seen it spelled) is one of the things that universally makes
babies cry. (The stuff is *really* putrid.) Psychologists have used it to
test babies responses, etc. No, really.

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From: alex@animal.Bell.CA (Alex Laney)
Subject: Re: alt.superman: not just one group, I'm afraid to say.
Organization: Bell Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:48:06 GMT

JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE (castle@cs.dal.ca) wrote:
: In article <1g9bluINNnvg@mozz.unh.edu>, mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE) writes:
: |> In article <1992Dec10.063536.20126@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang) writes:

: |> It's worse than you think, August Paul.  There are actually two alt.superman
: |> groups out there--alt.death.superman and alt.superman.dead.dead.dead

: It's worse than you think, Mike.  There's a third alt.superman group

Actually, I haven't seen alt.superman.dead.dead.dead, just alt.superman.dead.

: alt.comics.superman

: |> 	--MikE...thinking about starting alt.dc.die.die.die

: why not alt.bigtwo.destroythestatusquo ?

: Yours Sincerely,
: 	Julian Castle

: ///////
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:    <  /        "The Tune" by Bill Plympton  (my favourite
:    -  /        is one of his methods to quit smoking 'Use
: ///////        heat-seeking missiles' )


We are going to have to start a 'Crisis on Infinite Alt.Supermans'. Aargh. Up here where there's
lots of snow, we don't get alt.comics.superman. Let's see ... we could send Waverider back in time
to save the net from infinitely exploding alt*superman*'s. Hmm, need some advice from DC...

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Subject: DH - Aliens: Colonial Marines
From: <JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 11:18:14 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

  Does anyone know when this book is due out from Dark Horse?  My
comics store isen't very good about finding out publishing dates,
which makes ordering really tough.  If you know the date, could
you please e-mail it too me?  Oh, I'd also like to know when the
Predator v. Aliens collection is coming out as well.  Thanks in
advance, I really appreciate it.

                                             Jim
From: bosman@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk (Steve Bosman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Is SANDMAN Literature?
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:45:19 GMT
Organization: The Outlaws

In article <92348.232644CM26ACCW@MIAMIU.BITNET>, CM26ACCW@MIAMIU.BITNET writes:
|> evidence of being a literary author:
|> Neil Gaiman is the co-author of _Good_Omens_
|>   sorry I can't remember who the other author is
other author is Terry Pratchett a brilliant author at one time his fantasy books were compared to hitch-hikers guide
but IMHO he is far far funnier you just have to read _Good Omens_ to see that.
anyhow for you who can get it he has a newsgroup alt.fan.pratchett which he occasionally posts to.
|>   but there's an advertisement for it in the back
|>   of Kurt Vonnegut's _Hocus_Pocus_.
|> 
|> hope that will be some help

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From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Slapstick
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:44:12 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

kaloger@nmt.edu (Robert Kalogerakos) writes:

>I just got the first two issues of Slapstick and must say, I am a 
>bit confused.  It's hard to tell if this guy is suppost to be in the
>"What the..." Marble Universe or the Marvel Universe.  I love the consept,
>but I was hopeing he'd be more like Speedball from "The New Warriors"; silly
>and stupid but with serious problems to deal with.  Does anyone else
>see a future for "Slapstick"?

Yeah! I'd love to see him up against "Madcap"!!!
(maybe as part of an Xmen crossover, Yeah, that's the ticket!)

				James Willer
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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: Sandman: more idle chatter
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:34:07 GMT

From article <BzB6Bp.K4q@news.ucs.mun.ca>, by cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  ):
>>Burgess had a heart attack in front of the globe, but didn't
>>necessarily die there.  They catch him and then might have taken him
>>upstairs, where he'd have finished croaking.
> 
> It was always my understanding that Burgess never dies, or perhaps will
> ever die. He is sentenced to eternal waking, which can be he will keep
> waking up forever with those nightmares or he will keep waking up lie
> that until he eventually dies. Given Dream's nasty streak (remember
> Nada) I would almost be inclined to believe that Burgress is going to be
> aroun for a long time.

	I believe they were talking about his pop, who put Dream into
the globe in the first place.  We see his tombstone as "Not dead - just
sleeping".  Personally, I think along the lines that he's really not
dead and we might see him again before the series end (not in a flashback!).

 TTYL
 Chris
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Mom, can I have a new newsgroup for Christmas? (was: rec.arts.comics.vertigo)
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:04:04 GMT

Pffft.

These days, it seems like everybody with Internet access and a shiny new
lightbulb icon over their head wants a new newsgroup.  No offense.

a)  Comics.misc isn't bursting at the seams; it's doing fine on it's own. 
    There is no problem.  Do not panic.  Return to your homes and families.
    (All other arguments are secondary, but what the hey, the effects
    of my Arabian Mocha-Java haven't quite hit yet...)

b)  Xbooks was created with the reasoning that, after N-years of being
    extremely popular, it was deemed that the damned things were here to
    stay.  The "Vertigo" books haven't got that kind of track record.
    (We should be so lucky.)

c)  .vertigo isn't an immediately identifiable name to new users perusing
    the internet heirarchy, trying to figure out where to post.  It took
    me a moment or two to figure out what it had to do with SANDMAN
    and HELLBLAZER when I first heard the name.

d)  Your newsreader doesn't have a KILL file?  My heart bleeds.  This is
    Usenet!  Go forth and improve your lot!  You are not restricted to
    the limits of Compu$erve or Genie or such as that.  Get some sources
    and compile rn.  It's fun and easy!  Make new friends!  Meet girls!

Moral: if you've got excess mental energy that you want to expend, don't
start a newsgroup.  Instead, post in a current newsgroup, go read the
Congressional Quarterly so that you can keep an eye on those rascals in D.C.
[international readers may ignore this advice], or drown said excess energy
with the appropriate compound, e.g., bourbon.

This is Paul Harvey.  Good........   day.

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                     son... can you 
                     control it?"
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Organization: T-Shirt Wearing Squids of the Poor
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:13:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.032036.2878@midway.uchicago.edu> mss2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.205114.12589@panix.com> carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink) writes:
>>  I think it's a Mage T-shirt.  Granted, it's the wrong color, but
>>the Mage T-shirt actually exists.
>
>	And you think in the DC Universe the Flash and Shazam
>t-shirts don't?  (Actually, modern-age Flash t-shirts were produced
>recently in the real world as tie-ins to the TV show, and it would
>surprise me not at all if there were Shazam t-shirts at one time or
>another.)

Graphitti put out the Flash T-shirt (modern bolt with white circle) as
well as several other comic related T-shirts. (Green Lantern, Superman,
Dead Superman, and a big assortment of Sandshirts among others.) Haven't
seen a Marvel/Shazam shirt, but I haven't been looking.

I want to know where I can get a Fox and Crow or Ninja Frog Guys T-shirt.

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From: midnight@mdnite.enet.dec.com (Dr. Midnight)
Subject: Re: Favorite Artists?
Reply-To: midnight@mdnite.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:14:46 GMT


Some of my favorites (at least those who spring to mind):
---------------------


Whoever did the earlier issues of the Justice League of America.  You know, the
one who does all those goofy expressions.  Rather simplistic style, but hell,
the faces made up for it.  It was a fun read back then.


Mark Silvestri -- draws really dinky feet, and sometimes, his faces look flat
in three-quarters profile, but when you're looking for easy on the eye and nice
layouts, he does the job.


Jim Lee -- color me fan-gender, but the boy does know how to draw.  


John Buscema -- although I always sort of thought that Tom Palmer's inks seemed
a bit heavy, his style strikes me as 'classic' for the genre.   (as opposed to
the 'new wave' of lighter, 'liney', flashy and stylized art we saw bloom in the
later 80s and in the 90s.


Ty Templeton -- well, based entirely on his work on Stig's Inferno, which
looked a whole lot better than anything I've seen him do since.  Wish he would
finish that book.


Kyle Baker -- Cartoony people, fantastic facial expressions.   I have a
fondness in my heart for the "Baker Yell" (the one where the character has eyes
and mouth wide open, usually thrusting both arms up overhead in a V.)  The
"Baker Squinge" is also in my Expression Hall of Fame.


Hilary Barta -- usually found in the pages of What Th--?  Great spoofy
cartoons.


Art Adams -- took some getting used to, but for 'fun' stuff, he's right up
there.  Sort of did the Liefield frown before Liefield did it.



(if we're permitted to toss in a couple of manga artists) 

Masamune Shirow (Dominon, Appleseed, Black Magic) -- great tech, part
cartoon/part 'realistic' people.   Even when he's being lazy, it's fun to look
at.  Obviously likes to draw women in their underwear holding big guns.

Artist Who's name has escaped me (Mai, the Psychic Girl, Crying Freeman,
Sanctuary) -- fanastic 'realistic' style, although his Asian characters strike
me as Westernized and his men tend to look much the same.  (actually, so do his
women).   Very, very nice black and white artwork be it of characters, a city
scene, a car, a gun, what have you.  





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From: Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev)
Subject: Re: Flash 73:  SPOILERS!!!
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: In Effect Enterprises
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:28:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.101226.18607@husc3.harvard.edu>,
silvers3@husc8.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Dec17.060628.9699@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
> >I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned this yet.
> >
> >In the issue of The Flash which hit the shelves today (#73), we have the 
> >apparent return of the one, the only...
> 
> ^L
> 
> >
> >Barry Allen!
> >
> >Consider:
> >
> >Barry's got time travel powers.  He could conceivably show up here, now, or
> >anywhen, without problem.  My guess is that Barry has returned to the 20th
> >century from the 30th century.  He could stay as long as he wanted, and then
> >could return with none the wiser. 
> 
> However... Since he is fated to die (as you noted) and would eventually have to
> return to the 30th century (and the pre-Crisis 30th century, at that), DC
> continuity is about to achieve critical inconsistency if you're correct...

Um. . .

Either I'm confused, or. . .well, I'm confused.  What the hell is going on 
here?  
1) How is he "fated to die."  He already died in the Crisis, so what's the
   justification here?  
2) There is no "pre-Crisis" 30th century any more than there is a
"pre-Crisis"  
   20th.  The events that happened pre-Crisis (and, for that matter,
apparantly
   most of the events that happened during, but that's another can of
worms)
   have been wiped out by the Critical Rewrite.
3) Which loops us back to 1: did the fight with the Anti-Monitor "happen?" 
   When?  If we accept that, in post-Crisis continuity (used advisedly), 
   Barry did his "faster than I've ever run" routine and was slingshot back
   in time to his 'conception,' thus creating himself, then DC has SERIOUS
   continuity problems.  And the waters are muddied further, if this is 
   really Barry, making a time-travel visit.  Bleaghhh.  I'll have to take
   a look at the Crisis, again. . .sigh. . .

Kevvy Kev

* Prediction: In 19?? the Anti-Monitor will reappear.  However, *
* Superman will trick him into saying "Rotinom-Itna" and every- *
* thing will go back to where it was before the CRISIS.         *
*  -Bruce T. Smith                                              *
From: mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman, Hellblazer, and Hell
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:20:08 GMT
Reply-To: mfterman@phoenix.princeton.edu (Mutant for Hire)
Organization: Mutant for Hire, Inc.
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <Bz8JBL.7zA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>Well, I e-mailed Jaques with my version of this answer, and
>didn't think to post it, so here's my bit for the net.  From what
>I understand from the recent Hellblazer issues, Satan is the 
>ther other side of the coin to God.  He was already in Hell when
>the Morningstar fell.  Hell had to exist, becasue Heaven needs a shadow.

Wrong. Read old Swamp Thing issues written by Alan Moore. The Dark is
God's shadow, the reverse side of Himself. He could not exist without
the Dark and vice versa. The Dark is much more powerful than anyone
including Lucifer.

Lucifer is the most powerful next to God and the Dark. (Since the Dark
in a funky sense is sort of part of God, you could rank him at second
place) Satan presumably came into existance with Hell, which is how
he was there when Lucifer fell. Lucifer, being created by God to be
the best of the angels, is more powerful than Satan, though possibly
not by much.

Lucifer was much more in the role of ruling and desiring more power and
to spite the forces of Heaven until he grew sick of the job. Satan
strikes me as much more of the corrupting people to make everyone more
miserable type.

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From: an1603@anon.penet.fi (Bastard Regiment)
Subject: Mylite/Mylar bags
X-Anonymously-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:05:49 GMT

Someone posted here a while back a message in which they stated that they
managed to get 2000 mylite bags for $200 - does anyone know of where that was
from, or a place that will do a similar deal?

You see, normal comic bags are 8 cents here, while mylites are 40 cents.
It is therefore substantially more expensive to keep stuff in mylites, but
if I could get them for 10 cents each it would be much more convenient.

If you know anyplace I can mail-order bulk mylites, or mylar bags for that
matter, cheap, please email or post - I have a friend who is also interested,
so we can cover it if we need to buy a huge amount.  Thanks a lot,
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject:  Sucking up to the Stars!! (was Re: Why is PAD on the net?)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:38:29 GMT

In article <8aYg02pK2fs101@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, branwen@cerebus.ccc.amdahl.com (Karen Williams) writes:
> 
> Should some pro get on the net, and should some unwary person post something
> that actually says something *nice* about the pro, then said unwary person
> will be inundated with accusations that he is sucking up to the pro.

Not *neccesarily* true.  I've seen pros in other rec. newsgroups who don't
create "sucking-up" flamewars (Ed Rotberg and the other fellows from Atari
in rec.games.video.arcade, Robert Woodhead in rec.arts.anime, Matis Stephane
in rec.games.mecha).  Must be a rec.arts.comics thing.

> On the net, rude is fashionable, and will be defended to the death.

"Rude but not obnoxious" is viewed as "attitude", and thus a "good thing".
That's how people like Tim Maroney, Mike Godwin and our own "Scowlin' Jim"
Cowling acquire such followings.  <shrug>
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