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From: ech@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: I see what you mean about Rolling Rock
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:53:01 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


I know there was discussion in this group some weeks ago about
Rolling rock.  I kept out, because, well, from what I remembered
it was pleasant enough, a light bodied beer with plenty of hop
character.  Anyway, last weekend on our way back from New
Hampshire we spent a night in Bangor, and bought some rolling rock.
Shorly after opening a bottle, my wife started looking around the 
room, sniffing.  "Something smells like urine!" she said, and being 
a nurse she should know the smell.  You guessed it, it was the beer.
Now, being generally thick I proceeded to drink it anyway, well, half
of it anyway.  Tasted like stale corn puffs.  A little too much
adjunct in the mash, maybe?
	Ed
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: sml@yarra-glen.aaii.oz.au (Steven Law)
Subject: Re: New Zealand & Australia destinations
Organization: Australian Artificial Intelligence Institute
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:04:37 GMT

holdensj@BusLab.cba.ufl.edu (STEPHEN J HOLDEN) writes:

>In article <1992Aug11.103345.6910@ac.dal.ca> ech@ac.dal.ca writes:


>>mind.  I didn't find a brewpub in Melbourne, Alice has one large bar in the

>>       -Ed

>Ah well, Melbourne has a couple of little beauties.  Two that immediately 
>spring to mind are The Loaded Dog, which is just north of the city I 
>believe, in an area known as Carlton (the Melburnians will, no doubt correct 
>me), and the other is variously known as Villiers and the RedBack Pub.  It 
>is at 75 Flemington Rd which runs north out of the centre of Melbourne.  It 
>is very close to the centre of the city -- and is just across from the 
>Melbourne Hospital and the University of Melbourne.

>Stephen

Correct about the location of The Loaded Dog, BUT it closed down a couple
of months ago. Not too far from there is the Homestead which is not a brewpub
but has a good varity of Aussie beers on tap including Cooper's Scotch Ale
which I haven't seen in bottles (unlike the other Cooper's products).
Another good place is the Geebung Polo Club in Hawthorn, East of the city.

Outside of Melbourne are a few places in country towns such as the Grand Ridge
Brewing Co in Mirboo Nth, a pub in Bendigo whose name escapes me and one in
Tatura. They are all in different directions so it would take a few trips
to visit these.

Steve
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Amount of Alcohol in U.S. beer?
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
	<1992Aug14.155543.19272@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
	<1992Aug22.034906.3933@rosedale.uucp>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:41:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.034906.3933@rosedale.uucp> dcb@rosedale.uucp 
(Dave Breneman) makes light of Lite by exposing the recipe:

   1) Brew regular American Pale Export Full Of Adjuncts.

   2) "Blend with additional water from the original source"
      (cut it with tapwater)

   3) "Enhance the effervescence"
       (re-carbonate it like pop)

   The watering-down process obviously reduces the alcohol content,
   unless the beer is cask-conditioned afterwards. :-)

   The inventor of light beer was the biggest con artist of our generation.
   Water-down cheap beer and sell it for more money.
   What a scam!

Reminds me of a song:

I am the man, the very fat man, who waters the workers' beer (clap-clap)
I am the man, the very fat man, who waters the workers' beer (clap-clap)
What do I care if it makes them ill? If it makes them terribly queer?
I've a car, a yacht, and an aeroplane, and I waters' the workers' beer.

(One of the verses lists some brewing adjuncts: strychnine, methylated
spirits, and kerosene!  In another, the narrator admits that he only
drinks "from a very special pot", and in a third, he seeks the pity
of the listener because the cost of ingredients is so high.)




--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Mass market beers: any (really) good ones?
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:41:30 GMT
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug20.183853.22908@telematics.com> ted@telematics.com (Ted Goldblatt) writes:

>Is Sam Adam's available nationwide?  I had been led to believe that 
>it was only found on the east coast, maybe this has changed.

I've been pleasantly surprised to find it available in restaurants
in Dallas like Houston's.  Of course, many of the Dallas liquor
stores have the "up-scale" beers too.

--Rob  spray@convex.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Mass market beers: any (really) good ones?
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:29:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.042851.18033@telematics.com> ted@telematics.com (Ted Goldblatt) writes:
>
>My question is: does anyone have a recommendation for a
>mass market beer (anywhere in the world) that would be
>considered really good beer.  Not "OK on a hot day", not
>"better than Bud", but _really_ good.  What is mass market
>is a judgement call; it's up to you.
>
Well, I don't know how mass-market it is east of the Rockies,
but I'd say that around here Ballard Bitter (by Redhook) is
available in 3 out of 4 stores and is pretty damned good!

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: "It's the rice"
Keywords: Rice, thrombulator
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:39:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug7.171235.22874@fps.com> bruceh@fps.com (Bruce T. Hill) writes:
>In article <1992Aug6.033530.3651@rosedale.uucp> dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman) writes:
>>    " Brewed by our original process from the
>>      Choicest Hops, Rice and Best Barley Malt "
>>
>>Obviously, any resemblance between this "Original Process" and
>>*brewing* is strictly coincidental!
>
>I actually had a Bud last night on a flight back to San Diego and I read
>the label.  I was quite ammused when I read this: "We know of no other
>beer that costs as much to produce...."
>
Well, they are probably right, if they count advertising as a
cost of production.

-- 
David Breneman            #################          Historical revisionism:
The Spud Goodman Show      ####### #######           Elvis Presley was a joke
dcb@rosedale.uucp           #####   #####            A washed-up has-been.
 ..uunet!camco!rosedale!dcb      (_)  - - - Ciao.    Then he died... The King!
From: igl@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Ian Glendinning)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bar Trek (The Old Generation)
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:33:59 GMT

In <1992Aug12.200950.18445@csc.ti.com> jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,) writes:

>As I could be fairly well described as a "bubba" as worded in past messages, 
>except for the fact that I do enjoy micro-brew  8)   I thought I'd answer this
>one....   CHUG, loosely translated, would be a VERY BIG sip.  Say about as much
>beer as one can possibly force into one's mouth without it spilling down one's

Jim,
    thanks for the explanation.  Unfortunately in answering one
question you've raised another.  I didn't see the earlier references
to "bubba" - what's that?!
   Ian
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: N51LS801@NCSUVM.CC.NCSU.EDU (David Austin)
Subject: Re: Samuel Adams Dopplebock
Organization: NCSU
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:11:53 GMT

In Amherst, MA, Samuel Adams Dopplebock is available on tap at the Lord Jeffrey Inn, near
Amherst College.
Alas, I no longer live in Amherst.  So: if one likes SAD, are there similar beers to consume while
waiting for local stores to restock?
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mdick@acns.nwu.edu (Matthew S. Dick)
Subject: Re: Drinking Songs
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:37:15 GMT

I believe the Pogues' album 'Peace and Love' has at least one good Irish  
drinking song.

matt dick
msd@robbie.acns.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Warsteiner
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:01:32 GMT

In article CBK@news.cso.uiuc.edu, parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>ag099@yfn.ysu.edu (Jonathan Foster) writes:
>>    If WARSTEINER beer ever makes it to the states, try it, you
>>will become hooked.
>
>	It has!!  Unfortunately, it's not nearly as tasty as it is in
>Germany.

That's true, but it's still my favorite German import.  If you can find
one, try the 5-liter "keg".  To me, that beer tastes more "authentic"
than the bottled version.

>	What I want to know is when is Flensburger or Moravia Pils going to
>make it over here.

Yum!  I stayed in a hotel right across the street from the Flensburger brewery...

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Amount of Alcohol in U.S. beer?
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:49:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.155543.19272@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jmartens@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeffrey D Martens) writes:
>
>In Canada light beers have lower alcohol content than regular; this is
>not true in the US.
>
Would you care to explain this?
It flies in the face of known light beer manufacturing technique:

1) Brew regular American Pale Export Full Of Adjuncts.

2) "Blend with additional water from the original source"
   (cut it with tapwater)

3) "Enhance the effervescence"
    (re-carbonate it like pop)

The watering-down process obviously reduces the alcohol content,
unless the beer is cask-conditioned afterwards. :-)

The inventor of light beer was the biggest con artist of our generation.
Water-down cheap beer and sell it for more money.
What a scam!

-- 
David Breneman            #################          Historical revisionism:
The Spud Goodman Show      ####### #######           Elvis Presley was a joke
dcb@rosedale.uucp           #####   #####            A washed-up has-been.
 ..uunet!camco!rosedale!dcb      (_)  - - - Ciao.    Then he died... The King!
From: skatapsk@afit.af.mil (Steven M. Katapski)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: I agree!
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:42:20 GMT
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug7.042534.23602@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> colinl@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Colin Lynch) writes:
>
>>In article <6761@stan.xx.swin.oz.au>, rtg04@saturn.cs.swin.OZ.AU (Data Communications Group 04) writes:
> 
>>      We believe, in Melbourne, Australia, that any type of US beer (eg Bud, Coors, Corona etc) is the most woosy beer on the face of the earth.
>> 				                	The Aussie beer lovers.
>
>
>	Time to re-enrol for Geography 101, pal: Corona is as much American
>as Steinlager is Australian.
>
>-- 
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Colin Lynch - Telecom Australia | E-mail:  colinl@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au
>Advanced Network Products       |   post:  PO Box A226
>Customised Software             |          Sydney South NSW  2000

Hey Pal,

I hate to burst your bubble, but Corona is NOT a U.S. beer!  If you're 
going to criticize at least get your facts straight, bonehead!
From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Paulaner....
Date: 17 Aug 92 04:11:13 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Well, I've recently tried both Oktoberfest & Paulaner, two incredibly different
beers considering they come from the same company.  I liked Oktoberfest, but 
I thought the Paulaner was the absolute worst beer I have ever tasted.  Well, 
that's just opinion, & I'm not going to sit here flaming Paulaner drinkers, but
all I want to know is what beers taste similar so that I can avoid them.  Would
it be in anyway similar to the infamaous Samuel Smith's that I've seen so much 
about?  Or possibly a rauchbier?  Just guesses, & very curious.... 




Chris
From: me@dude.pcs.com (Michael Elbel)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Munich beers - recommendations wanted
Date: 18 Aug 92 07:57:18 GMT
Organization: PCS Computer Systeme GmbH

In <1992Aug16.225538.2982@cs.yale.edu> dionne-marc@CS.YALE.EDU (Marc S. Dionne) writes:

>My father will be going to Munich in about a week. Does anyone have 
>suggesions for beers he should try (or avoid)? His tastes run toward
>darker beers - stouts, porters, dopplebocks, etc.

I'd say avoid most ordinary Munich beers, especially Hacker Pschorr,
Loewenbraeu, HB. He might have a try at Augustiner's beers, they
are quite good.

As dark and bock beers go, Koenig Ludwig (yes, it's a brand) make
a good dark beer, he could try to ge hold of a bottle of the
famous Salvator bock.

If he really wants to try some good dark beer or bock in it's
'native surrounding', he should try to make a trip to Kloster
Andechs near Herrsching (about 40 km from Muenchen). They serve
some great dark and bock beer. He should note, however, that they
don't serve the bock on weekends (to many drunken tourists then).

Hope this helps,

		Michael
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From: boubez@tastesgreat.rutgers.edu (Toufic Boubez)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Canadian pisswater (was: Beer/Brewing Periodicals?)
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:39:59 GMT
Followup-To: alt.beer
Distribution: na
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Thomas.Sullivan@cs.cmu.edu writes:

>> Excerpts from netnews.alt.beer: 18-Aug-92 Re: Canadian pisswater (was..
>> Jeffrey D Martens@magnus (793)

>>  I'd go on to say that any of the major Canadian
>> imports to the US (Labatts, Molson's, Moosehead) aren't any better
>than mass-produced domestic stuff. 
>> 	[ ... ]

>I don't particularly agree with this.  I'll take any of these 3 "made
>FOR the
>USA" beers over Bud, Miller, Coors, etc. etc. etc. anyday.   I agree
>that 
>their true Canadian versions are better (the Molson Brador straight from
>Canada is great in my opinion), but I still think their US versions are
>better
>than most of what we get down here.  Anytime you folks who like the 
>run of the mill US beers want to trade cases of Moosehead for Bud, 
>Miller, Coors, etc.,  lemme know!

After following this thread for a little while, I have question: Where does
the claim that Canadian beer tastes better at home than the exported-to-
the-US version? Is there any factual basis for that claim? Do the breweries
brew it any differently (I'm getting visions of brewmeisters rubbing their
hands and pouring water late at night in vats marked "NOT FOR LOCAL
CONSUMPTION")? Is is sensitive to transportation? How is that different
form, say, the excellent European beers? Just to set things straight and
avoid flames, I'm from Montreal, and I've been in the US for 4 years now. I
frequently drive up home to visit friends and family, and grab a two-four
of Export or Brador on the way down :-), which are used maily for friends
who are averse to homebrew or other "stronger-tasting" beer (I do drink the
stuff myself, if I'm looking for an ice-cold brew on a hot summer day, with
some hot food, and, most importantly, during hockey games :-)). The only
Canadian beers to which I have access here in NJ are Molson Golden and
Moosehead. Now, I've never had Moosehead in Montreal (it was never
available), and I never was a fan of Golden, so it's hard for me to judge
any differences. Can somebody _please_ enlighten me? Thanks.
 
>--Tom

toufic
            R 2 4      Toufic Boubez
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From: jerry@incc.com (Jerry Rocteur)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bar Trek (The Old Generation)
Summary: chug a lug
Keywords: bar trek star
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:27:36 GMT
Organization: InCC.com Perwez Belgium

In article <12523@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, igl@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Ian Glendinning) writes:
> In <x03mh!c@lynx.unm.edu> bdombrow@triton.unm.edu (brent m 92jun08 dombrowski) writes:
> 
> >	Here are the rules for the bar trek drinking game.  For those of you
> >that I sent this to, these rules are different.
> 
> [Rules deleted...]
> 
> >CHUG if any of the following occur:
> 
> Pardon my British ignorance, but what does "chug" mean?
>    Ian
I guess the same as chug-a-lug but quicker :-)
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mece1xg@Elroy.UH.EDU (purna)
Subject: international beer mailing?
Reply-To: mece1xg@Elroy.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:03:11 GMT

howdy all!

i have been reading alt.beer for some time and i keep seeing 
one recurring theme cropping up.  mainly, lack of availability 
of certain beers (especially in the U.S.).  so, here is my
question/proposal.

there is a group in the U.S. that sells beer by mail of many
different microbreweries in the U.S.  i believe the outfit is
called "Beer Across America", though i'm not quite sure.
anyway, i was wondering if there exists such an organization/group
for beers from around the WORLD?

if not, would there be interest to start up some kind of
international mailing of beers (by private citizens, of
course)?  what are the legalities of such an enterprise?
also, how would the finances, shipping, handling, etc.
be best worked out?

it's just an idea.....

-purna
From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Porter vs. Stout
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:02:33 GMT
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Organization: SERC Daresbury Lab., Warrington, U.K.

Ahhh - there's a question ! In recent years, there's been a profusion
of new stouts and porters being brewed in the UK and the one conclusion
you can draw from this is that nobody knows what the difference is !
The style of Porter originates in the mid c18 and was a beer brewed by
Whitbread which found favour with the local market porters - hence the
name ! As mentioned before the style has drifted somewhat and I've
always taken Porter to be softer and a little more sweet than Stout,
with fairly high gravity (eg 5.5% ABV). However, Keith Thomas of
Brewlab, with the aid of Pitfield Brewery, attempted to brew to an
original Whitbread recipe and use original yeast (discovered in 
bottles of porter found in a shipwreck) and this beer was distinctly
stout-like. Our local micro (Coach-House of Warrington) is trying
to resurrect recipes from Greenalls (now ceased brewing) and the
original recipes from late c18 to early c19 use large amounts of
dark malt and hops. They are also very high gravity (9-10% ABV).
An attempt to brew one of these (at lower gravity - 5.5%) used
4lb hops per barrel and resulted in a wonderful smooth drink (Blunderbus)-
not disimilar to Beamish Stout. Whitbreads recently produced a porter
to celebrate (sic) 250 years of brewing and this turned out very 
similar to the Blunderbus.
I think this question will never be fully resolved ... but what the
heck - I'll drink and enjoy the stuff whatever they call it !
Cheers,
	Mark
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From: marc@meadow.uucp (Marc Riehm)
Subject: Re: Labatts/Molsons up beer prices 2.5% because of wet Ontario summer
Reply-To: marc@meadow.UUCP (Marc Riehm)
Organization: Amdahl Canada Ltd., Software Development Center
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 14:16:42 GMT

In article <schuck.713550796@sfu.ca> Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes:
>Labatt's and Molsons announced today that beer prices will have to
>go up 2.5% because of loss of beer sales during Ontario's wet summer.
>
>Isn't that always the way. The rest of Canada gets screwed because of
>something that happened *only* in Ontario.

No, the way you should interpret this is as follows: without the usual large
Ontario market which effectively subsidizes the rest of Canada, the beer
beer companies are forced to raise their prices (half a ':)').

>I say it's about time Canada boycotted Molsons and Labatts for their
>idiocy.

Actually, what you should really be complaining about is the following: how
is it that two companies which are supposedly in competition raise their
prices by the same amount at the same time?  How is it that these companies
own a common marketing chain (in Ontario, at least -- the Brewer's Retail)?

Canada is a strange country: we have a competition "watchdog" which
occasionally slaps the wrists of companies which are deemed to be price-fixing
(I remember this happening to the major millers some years ago), and yet at
the same time we have unquestioned, institutionalized price fixing in the
beer industry (and in others: eg the farm marketing boards).
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                2000 Argentia Road, Plaza 2, Suite 300
                Mississauga, Ont.   L5N 1V8
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,)
Subject: Re: Skunky Beer	
Reply-To: jimv@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:52:18 GMT

In article 27990@brtph560.bnr.ca, trice@bnr.ca (Tony Rice P885) writes:
>|>   Perhaps you should be a little more careful where or how you purchase your 
>|> beer.  Beer gets skunky because it's light-struck.
>
>Why should I have to worry about this?  Why don't brewers take measures to 
>insure that the beer is just as good when I buy it as when they brew it?
>rare occurance)

Because not enough people write to the PR dept.'s to complain.  We Americans
are complacent and will accept it as it is.  We have come to accept a bad 
6-pack every now and again without another thought.  If we don't tell the
"Big Boys's" that we're not satisfied, they will continue on with their
current money making machine...

By the way, what's a hokie?  
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