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From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: The Andretti Shuffle
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:10:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.162146.3843@ncube.com> bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
>Or.....perhaps Scott Goodyear going to N-H?  Then, could Paul Tracy
>take over the MacKenzie Ride.  Now, I know that Mr. Penske is really
>high on Paul for the future, but will Roger field 3 cars next year
>to accomodate Paul along with Emmo and Rick?
...
>Shierson/Patrick will pick up Cheever

Pat Patrick and Roger Penske are long time great friends. i predict
that Patrick will provide a full time seat for Tracy until Mears
retires, as a favor to his good buddie Roger..

cheers,
  richard
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From: wolf@pioneer.unm.edu (Mark Giaquinto)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: News on Piquet?
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:39:15 GMT
Organization: Space and Planetary Image Facility

In article ajd@DIALix.oz.au (Anthony Doig) writes:
>In jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith) writes:
>>Last I heard he was looking forward to racing in Indycars again
>We could have Piquet and Mansell racing in Indycars together (maybe not
>the same team).  Fun !!!
>When would Piquet be racing again ?

What I heard (this is rumor) that he would drive a full season if he could
find a quality ride in Indycars.  Piquet find one in IndyCars??? He's problably
have owners chasing after him.....

Hmm, 4 former F1 champions in IndyCars, interesting.

>Anthony Doig.
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From: tvp53202@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Toby Vaughn Padfield)
Subject: Re: Ron Dennis on aggression (was Re: Andretti signs for McLaren)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:53:06 GMT

marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti) writes:

>In article <BuKxCy.9xC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>(Cory James Padfield) writes:
>|> wilson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (David Wilson) writes:
>|> >I assume most r.a.s. readers watched ESPN's coverage of Monza, and
>|> >therefore saw the news conference in which Ron Dennis stated that
>|> >there were five drivers in the world with the necessary aggression
>|> >in working through traffic.  He stated that Michael Andretti was one
>|> >of the five.
>[ ... ]
>|> >Now, let's speculate on who Ron counts as the other four.
>|> >[1.] Senna
>|> >[2.] Nigel
>|> >That leaves two.  Who could they be...
>|> 
>|> [3.] Mike Schu

>Having agreed with Dave and Cory so far, how about the last one:
>Jean Alesi?  (Sorry, Brundle fans:  I assume he could be on the list,
>too.  Or even a favorite of mine, Gerhard Berger.  After all, Dennis
>wanted to keep him after Ayrton's departure ... )

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	I agree with your assumption of Jean Alesi. Cory would agree
also. he was not using his brain when he forgot Alesi. The list would
not include Berger or Brundle!!!!!!!!!!!! Neither has the driving style
of the other 4- Mike Andretti not included. Dennis is out of his gourd
if he thinks Mike Andretti is one of the five best drivers. I know
those weren't his exact words, but he isn't even close...

Just my $0.02,
TOBY...
From: danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Andretti at McLaren
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:50:51 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

Leo Smith writes:

>Unfortunately even Mario will not be able to overcome a rather
>lacklustre chassis and an inevitably brand new engine/chassis package
>with all the attendant unreliability.

Now I get it.  This clears up alot of the confusion.  When Nigel heard
it was Mario that signed with McLaren, he got scared and bailed out of
Formula One.  And with Mario gone from IndyCars, its now a safe series
and the logical move for Nigel.

Sorry Leo, I couldn't resist.

Dan Jones
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From: chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry)
Subject: Re: Indy and "rookies" [was Re: M. Andretti, what a deal for Mclaren!!]
Organization: Recom Technologies, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:04:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.163801.6008@ncube.com> bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
>Oh.....it now appears that Guerrero is almost a sure bet to be Kenny
>Bernstein's driver in Bud colors.  So that begs the question:  If you're
>a (competitive) car owner, do you go with Cheever or Pruett?  YOUR call,
>and not that of the sponsors'.

Pruett!  Eddie Cheever has had ample opportunity to prove his ability,
and with it has proven he was truly a mid-pack F1 driver.  Hell, even
Luyendyk did better than Cheever, in the same equipment.  (Dunno about
Ross Cheever, he's been hamstrung by AJ's road-racing-handicapped
team.)

Pruett, on the other hand, has taken equipment that wasn't quite
competitive and done well with it.  I hope he gets a top ride
somewhere; he's deserved it for years.  Ideally he'd wind up alongside
Guerrero (another deserving driver whose career has never recovered
from the Indy testing crash) in the Bud/Bernstein team.

I hope someone hires Luyendyk too -- Ganassi, maybe?

 -- Chuck Fry  Chucko@charon.arc.nasa.gov
    Rooting for the guys with the bad breaks
From: cornutt@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (David Cornutt)
Subject: Re: Not good news (sponsors)
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:32:04 GMT

bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:

>It's getting rather serious, and scary:

>Scuttlebutt has it that Tide will walk away with
>its TransAm Series support, as well as it being
>likely that Camel will withdraw from IMSA.

>Sure hope there's some healthy corporations out
>there that will pick up the slack next year, or
>we may just not have a whole lot to talk about
>here.....

Of course, the way IMSA GTP is going this year, maybe it would be
better left alone for a while.  (Well, not really, but this does
make me wonder.)

IMSA really is screwing up, aren't they?  They seem to have thrown
all their marbles into the GTP basket, and now they're... well,
they're losing their marbles.  The way that they've ignored/
screwed around with the other classes (especially GTO, or whatever
it's called now) really pains me.  A few years ago, it looked like
this was going to take off.  IHMO, they made a big mistake when
they divided GTP and GTO into separate schedules.

As for Trans Am, I sure hope they find someone else.  But, y'know,
maybe it's time for everyone concerned to take another approach.
I think that IMSA and SCCA should consider a joint-run Trans Am.
Now, I realize there are a million reasons why this can never happen,
but still, it's something to think about.  IMSA has the promotional
and organizational skills, but as far as the actual racing goes,
the SCCA seems to have the superior product now.

(Actually, I think they could both stand to learn some lessons from ASA...)

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From: hagood@sabre.den.mmc.com (Dave Hagood)
Subject: Re: Andretti at McLaren
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:50:19 GMT

In article <memo.627383@cix.compulink.co.uk>, shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Leo Smith) writes:
|> Unfortunately even Mario will not be able to overcome a rather
                      ^^^^^

	That may be true, however, it is Mario's son Michael who has
signed with McLaren.

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From: tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Ron Dennis on aggression (was Re: Andretti signs for McLaren)
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:53:52 GMT
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software

>|> Dennis stated that there were five drivers in the world with the necessary
>|> aggression in working through traffic.  [Michael Andretti being one.]
>|> Now, let's speculate on who Ron counts as the other four.
>|> [1.] Senna
>|> [2.] Nigel
>|> That leaves two.  Who could they be...

> cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield) writes:
> |> [3.] Mike Schu

marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti) writes:
> Having agreed with Dave and Cory so far, how about the last one:
> Jean Alesi?  (Sorry, Brundle fans:  I assume he could be on the list,
> too.  Or even a favorite of mine, Gerhard Berger.  After all, Dennis
> wanted to keep him after Ayrton's departure ... )

Now, we're talking about aggression in working through traffic, not pure
skill ... so how about an outrageous suggestion: Paul Tracy?  He's got
enough aggression for *three* drivers!  :)

Seriously now, I sincerely hope Tracy has his sights set on an eventual F1
ride ... he's got potential to be a (talented) Villeneuve-type balls-out
driver.  His driving continues to impress me more every year.

But if you wanted an F1 driver -- I'll vote for Alesi or DeCesaris.

[ \tom haapanen  |  "only auto racing, bullfighting and mountain climbing are ]
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From: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Leo Smith)
Subject: Re: Andretti at McLaren
Reply-To: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:22:00 +0000

Unfortunately even Mario will not be able to overcome a rather
lacklustre chassis and an inevitably brand new engine/chassis package
with all the attendant unreliability.

I think that McLaren will be having a 'consolidation year' - I doubt
that they will be competitive before mid season - or at all in 93 if
they don't use the Ford engine.


I laugh: Senna bounced by prost, when Senna bounced Warwick. McLaren
jilted by Honda, when Mclaren stole the Honda from Williams....

Its not just the cars that go around and around...

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From: podmorjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jonathan L Podmore)
Subject: Re: Andretti signs for McLaren
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:46:17 GMT

Distribution: world

In article <1992Sep9.201557.1233@b8.b8.ingr.com> drhall@b8.b8.ingr.com (Dave  
Hall) writes:
> In article <18338@acorn.co.uk>, apayton@acorn.co.uk (Andrew W Payton)  
writes:> >  details have been revealed.            
> > 
> Glad to see an American in Formula 1 again! I wonder how long
> those F-1 prima donnas wil tolerate MA's aggressive style!!!

They seems to have put up with Mansell's

jon
From: poole@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Gary R Poole)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: How to best get into racing.
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:43:20 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.


Hi Benny,

I got into racing by buying an old Fiat Spider, rebuilding the engine, 
transmission, suspension, and brakes myself, and having a mechanical genius
friend weld in a roll cage.  Then I found an old formula ford in someones 
barn, bought it cheap, and traded it for a newer Formula Ford, plus I sold 
the Fiat.          
Besides SCCA, there is a local club here called ICSCC (International conference 
of Sports Car Clubs) that sanctions races.  They are actually bigger than the 
SCCA in the Northwest.  It there is a similar club in your area, check it out.
For open wheel racing, you should be able to find a Formula Ford in the 
$6K to $8K range.  For less money, you can get into a Formula Vee for under
$3K.  The Vee's have the advantage of lower maintanence, and the racing is as
good as you will find anywhere.
I too am not a mechanical wizard, and I'm married with children so I have 
almost no money or time.  Three or four races per year is tops for me, but
it's enough to satisfy me (at least until the kids are older!).
Hope this helps,
-Gary
From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: Re: Bobby's comments at Vancouver
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:51:06 GMT

Has anybody seen the interview with Rahal from the middle of last
week on ESPN?  He was still bithcing about the incident.  He 
said something like:

	If it was little Al or Michael I could understand it,
 but he (johannsen) was not in the running for the chamionship,
blah blah, blah...

I had retained some repect for Rahal due to giving him the benefit
of the doubt of a "heat of the moment" response.  However this
cool-down interview with him has dashed any admiration that I 
may have had...

I'm not neccessarily saying that Johannsen made a wise move on the 
track, but Rahal's comments, and the implications of them, have NO
place in a competitive racing series...

Steve

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From: MJackson.Wbst147@Xerox.COM (Mark Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: The Andretti Shuffle
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:50:24 GMT
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY

In article 11784@cbnewsc.cb.att.com, dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman) writes:

> Now for the real question, who is going to coach Nigel on the following line:
> 
> "The Havoline K-mart dirt devil cellular one lola cosworth ran great all day."

It will be tough.  Perhaps they can start out easy:

"The Havoline K-mart dirt devil cellular one lola cosworth had a
handling problem from the start, but I was able to adjust."

and work up. . .

Mark <MJackson.Wbst147@Xerox.COM>
     Between 20 and 30 percent of the gross national product of the
     United States comes from high energy physics.
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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: F1 Stuff
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:24:19 GMT


In article <9209140747.AA02822@client47.comlab.ox.ac.uk>,
Alan.Crowder@prg.oxford.ac.uk writes:
|>
|>Let me say that Frankie baby has been a dickhead, but he has got to get
|>a Brit in his team from somewhere and who better than Martin Brundle, no
|>way can he have Damon Hill as he cant sell him to sponsors.

Why has Frank Williams "got to get a Brit on his team from somewhere"?  The
engine and fuel are French and the major sponsorship is Japanese (Canon) and
American (Camel).  Frank can run his team perfectly well with "foreign"
drivers if he so chooses.

I thought F1 was an international sport.  Why this British jingoism?

--PSW
From: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: The Andretti Shuffle
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:19:29 GMT
Reply-To: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Organization: Reading Rehab Hospital, Reading PA

In article <1992Sep9.162146.3843@ncube.com> bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
>Or.....perhaps Scott Goodyear going to N-H?  Then, could Paul Tracy
>take over the MacKenzie Ride.  Now, I know that Mr. Penske is really
>high on Paul for the future, but will Roger field 3 cars next year
>to accomodate Paul along with Emmo and Rick?
 [......]
>Penske will be status quo, with Tracy running ovals and being on standby
>again.

  I dont think Roger will run 3 cars in 93 (at least not every race ;-).
 And I don't think Tracy will jump ship for a full time ride (plus I
 think theres a problem with something called a contract). Does anyone
 know if Emmo will return to Penske in 92?!? I recently received a 'Penske
 SportsWear' catalog. Inside are photos of Rick, Chris, Roger, and Paul.
 Missing is Emmo! I think that even if Emmo is back for 93, he will be
 gone in 94 and that Tracy will by very happy waiting a year for that
 Penske full time ride.

 -Dan
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From: trubik@triton.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo)
Subject: Please include 'SPOILER' in 'Subject' (was Re: Mansells quits F1 !!)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 22:59:27 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In <190du1INN6mm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as789@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
     (Francisco J. Diaz) wrote:
 
> Well, this morning Nigel said . . . (stuff about retirement)
  
> On the other side, . . . (stuff about Mi. Andretti, engines, Al Jr.)
  
> And today's Indy race was won by ********, ******** second and 
> ******** finished third  . . .  (followed by a summary of what
> happened to who and where the points standings have gone).
  
I thought "hmmm, I'll read this and it won't spoil the IndyCar race 
   results for me; I already know who won at Monza."

If you're including results in a post, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE include 
   a 'spoiler' in the 'subject' line, a ^L, something.  I think this
   is reasonable, especially on same-day-as-race posts.

I'm not particulary angry, but someone could be.

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:39:01 -0400 
From: Alan Edward Petrillo <ap2z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Fassell-Vega



Facel-Vegas were French cars built in the late '50s.   As the French
industry was in something of a disarray, most were powered by
first-generation Chrysler Hemis.   They were pretty expensive cars, in
the class of a Jaguar sedan of the time, I'd say.   I wish I knew more -
350 hp or so in a car of European handling and size sounds like a great
idea to me.

Alan Petrillo
Carnegie Mellon
(I can see the Tower of Learning from my window.)
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From: csroach@eng.clemson.edu (Shane Roach)
Subject: Re: F1 Qualifying tYres.
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:35:41 GMT

From article <1992Sep4.235024.17110@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, by rbanksjr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Richard E. Banks Jr.):
> 
> Here's an idea if teams really miss qualifying tires why not use rain tires
> for qualifying?  I know they aren't slicked but shouldn't they get equal
> grip and last about the same lifetime?
 
Nah, that wouldn't work.  According to a rather extensive article on Goodyear's
Formula One tires(in a recent issue of "Cavallino", #68 or 69 I think), the 
rain tires are made with the same rubber as the C-compound slicks.  Seems that
Goodyear tried making them with D-compound rubber, but it was too soft to hold
the tread under most conditions, whereas the C-compound stuff worked just fine.
The rain tires might last as long as Q-tires in dry hot laps, but you'd get 
better grip from D-compound slicks.


Shane Roach
csroach@eng.clemson.edu




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From: johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis)
Subject: Re: Respect for Senna (was: Monza race - here lie SPOILERS !!!)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:15:04 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Sep14.142203.13076@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> kimes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Kit Kimes) writes:
>From article <Sep14.082925.17245@engr.washington.edu>, by (eliot):
>> 
>> Senna's post race interview was also good sober stuff.  My respect for
>> him is climbing.  
>
>I didn't see a post race interview with Senna, but my respect for Senna
>(never very high--has nothing to do with his driving ability) dropped
>like a rock when I found out that Mansel would not be driving for
>Williams next year and that a big part of it was because of Senna's
>publicly blowing off at the mouth.  In the U.S., publicly interferring
>with another man's bargining process would be grounds for a lawsuit.

        NM: I want $23M next year
        AS: I'll do the same job for $0

If FW picks AS instead of NM, isn't that a free market economy at work?

In anywhere *but* the US, any attempt to start a lawsuit because Senna
publicly sad "$23M? I'd drive the Williams for nothing!" would be laughed
out of court.  Not for nothing does the US have a reputation for being
far too eager to provide employment for an excessive number of lawyers
in the hope that a jury will make an award based on who has the most money
to pay for something, rather than the on the merits of the case.
  *Privately* interfering with the bargaining process (such as Senna
going to Frank Williams in secret, Frank telling Senna what Nigel wanted,
and Senna countering with a slighlty lower offer) could be actionable.
So, probably, would be agreements between all the top F1 team owners like:
"Frank does't want to pay Nigel more than $3M, so none of us will offer
him a contract worth more than that".  But simple bargaining?  Never!

-- 
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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: The global centre of Motor-sport !
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:25:52 GMT


In article <1992Sep9.152730.27131@syma.sussex.ac.uk>,
tafi3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Ian Deeley) writes:
|>
|>	I see Ferrari have finally recognised where the global centre of
|>Motor-sport is, yes they have moved the entire F1 team to England, not
|>far from Williams I believe!

Change that to the global centre of racecar and engine construction and I'll
agree with you.

|> In the same newspaper article they pointed
|>out that the top 7 finishers at the Indy 500 were built in England, &
|>also that a "leading Indy car driver" had signed for Mclaren.
|>	Nationalistic? Naaah!!

And several F1 drivers (including at least two F1 champions) currently have
IndyCar rides.

--PSW
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1: Italian GP Q2 Report
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:04:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Aghanya O A (aghao@sersun2.essex.ac.uk) wrote:
: 
: PS. Go Nige!! :-)

And he did. 

pete
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From: wolf@pioneer.unm.edu (Mark Giaquinto)
Subject: Re: Bubba (NASCAR)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 04:51:35 GMT
Organization: Space and Planetary Image Facility

In article tsander@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>It is NOT to get whiplash trying to figure which Marlboro car is passing which.

You have a major bitch of mine her, is that Rick or Emmo.  Micheal or Mario.
Gorden or Cheever.  Or in F1, Senna or Berger, Patrese or Mansel, etc etc
or even worse.  Is that a Williams, Bennatton or Lotus, if your the least
bit distracted when that flashes by forget it :)

Mark
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