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From: peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.realtime
Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Networking Systems
Keywords: Echelon, LonWorks, Networks, X.25
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:20:02 EDT
Organization: Bellatrix Systems Corp., Mississauga, ONT Canada

loew1@seas.gwu.edu (Murray Loew) writes:

> Parting shot --
> 	Take a look at the motorola 68302 chip - built in SDLC
> 	ports, clocks, chip selects, and lots more.
> 	Also there is a HITACHI Z80 based cpu (64180?) that (i think)
> 	will also do SDLC/HDLC

Zilog's Z80181 is essentially a Z80180 + 1/2 of a 85C30, this is
probably the device you were thinking of. I've used this beast and once
the initial quirks were out it worked quite well, 2.125 Mbit/sec over
twisted pair. [ It would also make a neat intelligent sync adapter card
for PC's with a bit of work in S/W and a PC bus interface ]

peter

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From: brianw@spider.co.uk (Brian Wyld)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Token Ring: do all stations support LLC XID?
Date: 1 Sep 92 09:02:18 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

Hi,

This is probably a question for comp.dcom.lans.token-ring, but as it doesn't
exist (as far as I'm aware).....

The question is, do all stations on Token Ring networks running support LLC,
and specifically LLC XID request/responses? I know that the TI TR chip
certainly seems to assume you run LLC over the MAC layer, but is this
universally true?

My experience is only with TCP/IP, where its LLC/SNAP/IP type stack, but
what about IPX, SNA, Vines, etc etc?

The reason for the question is to get the right echo frame to put source
routing explorers onto so that as many protocol stacks as possible will
answer.

Alternatively, can someone point me to any info on the "right" way to do
generic SR explorers?

Thanks. I'll summarise email to the net.

Brian Wyld


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From: beig@dmi.ens.fr (Jacques Beigbeder)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: free Appletalk gateway with a Sun?
Keywords: appletalk IP gateway Sun
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:20:59 GMT
Reply-To: beig@dmi.ens.fr
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, Paris, France

I was told of a public domain software which enables a Sun with
no special hardware (*) to act as a gateway between an Appletalk
network and a Ethernet-IP network? Does this exist? What's its
name? I think archie useful for locating it with its name.

With no special hardware, I mean only a cable between a Mac
and the DB25 asynchronous port of an ordinary Sun.

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From: bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Define please.
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:41:25 GMT
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

In article <BtnMpp.L5J@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, gcumming@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (GREG CUMMINGS) writes:
> 
>      NETWORK MANAGER
>      LAN MANAGER
>      LAN ADMINISTRATOR
> 
>  I am hoping that someone out there can help me in defining the above titles. I am
> constantly reading about tools/products that can make their jobs easier but I do
> not believe I have seen any of the above defined.
>  Are they one in the same ? Does it depend on the size of your LAN/WAN. Any ideas
> would be welcome. Then I might know who these new products are actually going to
> help out.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

Good question.  And the answer is - it all depends....

Terms like Network/LAN Manager/Administrator could refer to a person, a file 
server system, or a management tool.

What is a LAN ?  To some it is an ethernet or token ring etc, with statiosn 
connected.  To others, it is the above plus a file server system such as 
Novell.

What is a Manager ?  Is it the person who manages, or a tool which makes
things more managable, or a tool used in the process of management.
Unfortunately, there isn't much standardisation on terminology here. eg 

  LAN Manager is a product 
  I am a network manager (at a hands off distance, because I have a management
                          section) 

So far I've been a great help, haven't I ;-)

My advice is : Don't be too concerned about the terminology, just look at 
product offerings, if they make promises, investigate them and see if they are
going to help you in your job.   Lotsa luck !!

Regards,

John Bennett                                E-mail: bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Head, Networks Group                        Phone : +61 8 259 5292
Corporate Information Systems               FAX   : +61 8 259 5537
DEFENCE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ORGANISATION Postal: Bld 73 Labs Area
AUSTRALIA                                           PO Box 1500 Salisbury 
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                (DSTO Network Manager)              AUSTRALIA
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.realtime
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Networking Systems
Keywords: arcnet
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:02:18 GMT

In article <8ycnr9+@quantum.on.ca> aboyd@quantum.on.ca (Andrew Boyd) writes:
>In article <#ncnf7=@quantum.on.ca> danh@quantum.on.ca (Dan Hildebrand) 
>writes:
>>Why not drop an Arcnet chip onto your embedded system ? The component cost 
>>is very low ...
>
>if you are interested in arcnet for an embedded system, check out the
>SMC 20020, which is an arcnet controller with on-board ram.  The data
>sheet claims "With only one COM20020 and one microcontroller, a complete
>ARCNET node may be implemented".
>
>Also, if I were you, I would check out RS-485.  Not very fast, but
>dirt cheap.

I've done 57.6k baud on a RS-485 with no problems at all.  I might have
been able to do 350kbaud as well, if I tried it.

I have yet to see any embedded application where anything other than a RS-485
is even needed for reasons of speed or functionality.
From: gah@hood.hood.caltech.edu (Glen Herrmannsfeldt)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Connecting an HP Laser Printer on the Ethernet
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:39:37 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

We have one of the HP cards, and it works really well.

Just a little about how it works:

It does not directly support TCP/IP LPD protocol.

It takes a single TCP connection on port 9100, stuffs all the
characters into the printer, and ends on TCP/IP close.

The spooler machine runs software to support LPD, and
take care of normal spool functions.  They supply
it for HP, and sun.

It is real easy to write the driver for, though.

You can also do

telnet printer.name 9100

what you type goes to the printer!

-- glen
From: seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: Fujitsu's Ethernet chip
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:32:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep2.191610.29700@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, j_pan@ranger.enet.dec.com (Joanna Pan) writes:
> Is Fujitsu's Ethernet chip named EtherStar ? I called the company to ask for its
> data book, but the person said they did not manufacture such chip. Is this 
> true ? Who made EtherStar then ? 
> 

The EtherStar WAS made by Fujitsu (I have actually used it). It is 
possible that they no longer make it.

-- 
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seifert@netcom.com              (408) 996-0922
                                (408) 996-2860 FAX
"... specialists in Local Area Networks and Data Communications systems"
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.lans.misc:671 comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:1714
From: craven@egr.msu.edu (Dean Craven)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: general Token Ring questions
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:06:44 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: craven@eecae.ee.msu.edu


Hi,

I have a few beginners questions about Token Ring.

 o in general, how do IEEE 802.5 and the IBM Token Ring Architecture Reference
   differ?  Is one a superset of the other, what was/is their evolution, etc?

 o is the definitive description of the token ring frame "Routing Information
   Field" found in the IBM Token Ring manual or in an ISO/IEEE document?
   IEEE 802.5 references something called "ISO/IEC DIS 10038" for details of
   the RI field.  What is this document about?

 o for existing token ring devices, what are common maximum frame sizes?

 o I have the IBM Token Ring Architecture Reference, IEEE 802.5, IEEE 802.1d,
   IEEE 802.1m.  What other documents should I have to understand token ring
   and token ring bridging/source routing?

Thanks.

Dean Craven (craven@egr.msu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: aazobian@athena.mit.edu (Assef A Zobian)
Subject: Saber LAA Starter Kit software 
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 01:16:19 GMT

I have a brand new Saber LAA Starter Kit software . This software supports Nodell,
Microsoft, DEC, Bayan,IBM and any MS-NET based network. It has LAA Console/RT and the 
Saber LAA agent Toolkit. The LAA Agent Toolkit performs the following functions:
1- Application control and inventory
2- Hardware inventory
3- Event logging
4- File auditing
5- Schduler
6- Disk monitor
Its retail price is $ 1195 but I am willing to sell it for much less. If you need it,
e-mail me and we will fix the price.

 

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.realtime
From: rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Rick Spanbauer)
Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Networking Systems
Keywords: arcnet
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:01:59 GMT

In article <8ycnr9+@quantum.on.ca> aboyd@quantum.on.ca (Andrew Boyd) writes:
>In article <#ncnf7=@quantum.on.ca> danh@quantum.on.ca (Dan Hildebrand) 
>writes:
>>Why not drop an Arcnet chip onto your embedded system ? The component cost 
>>is very low ...
>
>if you are interested in arcnet for an embedded system, check out the
>SMC 20020, which is an arcnet controller with on-board ram.  The data
>sheet claims "With only one COM20020 and one microcontroller, a complete
>ARCNET node may be implemented".
>
>Also, if I were you, I would check out RS-485.  Not very fast, but
>dirt cheap.

Actually, the newest SMC 20020's will do 5 mBit/sec over RS485.  Cheap,
fast, clean solution.  Easy to program too!

					Rick Spanbauer
					SUNY/Stony Brook
From: jgotobed@lpl.arizona.edu (Joe Gotobed x4549)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Spead Spectrum?
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:23:15 GMT
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.


I'd like to know what companies sell spread spectrum hardware?

TIA
Joe
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: miw@cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: ATM: looking for info
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:20:05 GMT

walt@unhsst.unh.edu (Walter R. Trachim) writes:

>Subject line says it all. Where can I find some information on ATM? I'm looking
>for mostly general stuff, although I'd be willing to read most anything on the
>subject.

The May 1992 issue of _Computer Networks and ISDN Systems_ Has a reasonably
comprehensive tutorial on ATM.

cheers,

Mark
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.realtime
From: aboyd@quantum.on.ca (Andrew Boyd)
Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Networking Systems
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:39:46 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software Systems
Keywords: arcnet

In article <#ncnf7=@quantum.on.ca> danh@quantum.on.ca (Dan Hildebrand) 
writes:
>Why not drop an Arcnet chip onto your embedded system ? The component cost 
>is very low ...

if you are interested in arcnet for an embedded system, check out the
SMC 20020, which is an arcnet controller with on-board ram.  The data
sheet claims "With only one COM20020 and one microcontroller, a complete
ARCNET node may be implemented".

Also, if I were you, I would check out RS-485.  Not very fast, but
dirt cheap.

----
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From: ckaminsk+@pitt.edu (Curtis J Kaminski)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: A dos internet guide
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:23:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: ckaminsk@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu


              I work for computing and information services at the University
of Pittsburgh and I am trying to locate an interactive guide to the internet
for use by dos users.   We have found an internet tour for the hypercard
on the NSF Network Service Centers server (nnsc.nsf.net) which is quite
helpful for our Machintosh users, but were wondering if anyone knew of a
simular application for dos machines. 
-- 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Subject: Re: Connecting an HP Laser Printer on the Ethernet
Reply-To: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:27:07 GMT

In article <gah.715037977@oldhood>, gah@hood.hood.caltech.edu
 (Glen Herrmannsfeldt) wrote:
>We have one of the HP cards, and it works really well.  ...
>It does not directly support TCP/IP LPD protocol.  ...
>It takes a single TCP connection on port 9100, stuffs all the
>characters into the printer, and ends on TCP/IP close.

This only describes *one* of the many network cards HP offers for
their LaserJet line of printers.

The one described above is their "terminal server style" card.
They also have a LPD one, an AppleTalk one, a Novell one, and
a LAN Manager one (and possibly more).

...Sam
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.realtime
From: eks@daimi.aau.dk (Eigil Krogh S|rensen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: uucp and slip
Summary: uucp for (ms)dos, slip for unix
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:00:55 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark




If there are  free versions of the  following dcomm. utils. I  would be
very glad to hear about it

1.
uucp that runs under (MS)DOS/OS-2

2.
slip  for sysV68 unix.


Thank you


--- Eigil Krogh Sorensen
(eks@daimi.aau.dk, eks@aar-vki.dk)
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From: essary@pyramid.unr.edu (Bill Essary)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.realtime
Subject: Arcnet for an Embedded system
Keywords: arcnet
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:56:37 GMT
Reply-To: essary@pyramid.unr.edu (Bill Essary)
Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

>In article <#ncnf7=@quantum.on.ca> danh@quantum.on.ca (Dan Hildebrand) 
>writes:
>>Why not drop an Arcnet chip onto your embedded system ? The component cost 
>>is very low ...

We have just settled on Arcnet for our system (386, 8050 and Siemens 166
processor mix.  Has anyone seen an OSI type (well defined physical, network
and transport layer) protocol stack written to a small realtime kernel
interface?  We have an in-house kernel and would love to port rather
than write the network.  Actually, writing the network would be fun, 
but... time.


Bill Essary
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Subject: Re: Connecting an HP Laser Printer on the Ethernet
Reply-To: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:35:00 GMT

In article <ARONS.92Aug24164957@ash.eecs.ucdavis.edu>,
 arons@ash.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Tom Arons) wrote:
>>You can buy a network card from HP that plugs directly into
>>your laser printer.  There are IPX/SPX, AppleTalk, and TCP/IP
>>versions of the card.

They actually have two TCP/IP cards, one behaves like a LPD server
and the other behaves like a single-port terminal server with a
printer attached.

>You can also buy an ethernet printserver box from Milan or Microplex for < $1k
>list. These boxes both talk tcp/ip and come with host side spooling software.

The Microplex box can also run both in LPD server and "terminal server
with printers attached" modes.

...Sam
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<skl@wimsey.bc.ca>
From: mack23@avalon.eecs.nwu.edu (Chris Walsh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.misc
Subject: Re: free Appletalk gateway with a Sun?
Keywords: appletalk IP gateway Sun
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:09:06 GMT
Organization: My desk in the Tech building

In article <1992Aug26.162059.5386@ens.fr> beig@dmi.ens.fr writes:
>I was told of a public domain software which enables a Sun with
>no special hardware (*) to act as a gateway between an Appletalk
>network and a Ethernet-IP network? Does this exist? What's its
>name? I think archie useful for locating it with its name.
>
>With no special hardware, I mean only a cable between a Mac
>and the DB25 asynchronous port of an ordinary Sun.

I think you are referring to cap, which is the Columbia Appletalk Package.
It can be found as cap60.tar.Z at many ftp sites.  As far as hardware,
I don't think you mean the serial port on the Sun, but rather the AUI
port and the MAU, right?

Chris Walsh
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.lans:1904 comp.realtime:1002
From: garyng@netcom.com (gary )
Subject: PC-ROUTE/PC-BRIDGE over modem ?
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 06:10:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Does anyone have experience running PC-ROUTE/PC-BRIDGE over a high speed
modem ? Also, is it possible to route both TCP/IP and SPX/IPX packets
using PC-ROUTE/PC-BRIDGE ?

TIA.
-gary
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans,comp.realtime
From: pwb@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au (Paul W. Brooks esq.)
Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Networking Systems
Summary: IEEE-488 ?
Keywords: Echelon, LonWorks, Networks, X.25
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:09:53 GMT

In article <gregh.714841186@cserver>, gregh@cserver.plexus.com (Greg Hawley) writes:
> 
> Maybe the net can help us...
> 
> OVERVIEW
> --------
> 
> We am evaluating third-party network hardware and software 
> for an embedded systems application.  While many systems are
> on the market for embedded system operating systems, we have 
> seen precious little about over-the-counter embedded system
> interconnection products.
> 

Have you looked at IEEE-488 gear, also known as HPIB or GPIB?
Hewlett-Packard connect all their measurement equipment up with it, and
it seems to be very reliable, and there is a lot of equipment already
using it, so the hardware to do should be available.
Paul Brooks        |Internet: pwb@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au
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Kensington NSW 2033|   your bed. With a little luck you'll drop off. 
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2
From: dlv@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu (Dimitri Vulis, CUNY GC Math)
Subject: Re: IBM LAN Server over Ethernet --- please help!
Reply-To: dlv@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Organization: Computer Center, CUNY Graduate School, New York NY 10036
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:00:51 GMT

I have resolved my problem --- many thanks to all who replied!

>What do I mean by 'no effect'? Netbind and 'net start' run with no error
>messages (I tried both RDR and RCV in DOSLAN.INI). However, 'net logon
>user pw' waits for a very long time and says 'Unable to contact the
>domain controller'. Argh! :)
What was happening: on the DOS workstations in config.sys I specified
'device=dxme0... ,20,1' ; the last 1 didn't match the server. :)

Thanks again.
Dimitri Vulis
CUNY GC Math
DLV@CUNYVMS1.BITNET DLV@CUNYVMS1.GC.CUNY.EDU

Disclaimer: my Usenet postings don't necessarily represent anyone's views,
especially my own and/or CUNY's.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.fddi
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: FDDI flow control in Layer 2 ????
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:22:55 GMT

In article <BtI0oL.95J@world.std.com>, sja@world.std.com (Stuart J Adams) writes:
> A recent national semconductor newsletter said the FDDI is capable of
> providing flow control in layer 2, using the copy flag which is at the end
> of each frame. How does this work ??? Does the receiving site set the
> bit such that the transmitter knows that the receiver dropped the packet ???

How does it work?  Not at all.

Some vendors about 4 years ago were taling about useng
the A and C bits to do error recover (and so implicitly flow control).
That is now a nonsense idea.  FDDI is now like ethernet; the sender
cannot know if the receiver is alive andor if it received the frame.

I think using A & C to in layer 2 to do network stuff is a dumb idea to
start with, but my biases are irrelevant.  Bridges do not reliably set
the A & C indicators to any particular value.  Any answer they use would
be wrong in some case.  How can the bridge know if the ultimate
destination will set A and/or C when the bridge is copying the frame?
It cannot.  Thus the orginal sending station can draw no conclusion
from the A & C bits on frames it strips.

As far as I can see, the same thing applies to any token ring which
allows bridging and requires that the orginal sender and not the
receiver do the stripping.


The whole idea is dumb, because it betrayes an ignorance of how the
upper layers need and do flow control.  You don't want to slow down
only after the receiver has started to drop packets!  Intead, you use
something called a "window."  Unfortunately, most of the particpants in
X3T9.5 think a window needs cleaning with Windex.  Of the minority of
the X3T9.5 partiicpants who are technical contributors to their
employers (i.e. not managers, marketing professionals, or professional
standards representatives), most are hardware experts unaquainted with
TCP, IP, TP4, FTP, slow start, leaky-bucket, ARP, encapsulation and so
on.

Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.fddi
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: TTRT
Keywords: wrong
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:32:16 GMT

In article <p9964u4@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com>, vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:
> > |>                 ...                            (5 ms because that is
> > |>the value chosen by Raj Jain's employer.  Raj Jain's analysis is the
> > |>excuse people use for forcing their customers to use such low TTRT's.)

> > You might try to get your facts right.  If you read the paper you will
> > find an answer to the question you posed... and you will also find that
> > 5 ms is NOT the number Raj recommended.
 
> Why do all DEC concentrators force TTRT to be 5 ms instead of 8 ms?
> (Actually, it's a just a touch over 5 ms, but I've forgotten the exact
> value).

I'm more wrong than I thought.  I just reset a DEC concentrator
to see what it's natural T_Req is, and found it seems to be 7.987 ms.

That means the cost in bandwidth is only 20%, not 30% on a 1 ms ring.
I still don't find the rational in the paper a convincing argument
that 8 ms is the right answer for almost all multi-vendor rings.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.fddi
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: Trace initiation & propagation: UPSTREAM ?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:46:22 GMT

Thanks to all who replied to my query. 
I got loads of replies. 

regards,
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