From: mcsdc1gm@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: RE: GERMAN NEO-NAZI THRASH BANDS(SHIT FOR BRAINS,RACIST FUCKERS)
Date: 9 Dec 92 15:13:26 GMT
Summary: FUCKING SICK
Keywords: SAD SHIT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <Byuo3E.557@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, smithmc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Lost Boy) writes:
> In article <1992Dec4.180721.2070@tellab5.tellabs.com> pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver) writes:
>>In article <Byox03.76G@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> smithmc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Lost Boy) writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec2.162220.1321@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>>>>This morning on the news there was a story about the German government
>>>>thinking of banning certain neo-nazi bands.  The music playing in the
>>>>background sounded EXCELLENT, regardless of its message.
>>>>
>>>>Aside from the fact that suppressing the music is probably the WORST thing
>>>>they could do (an issue more appropriate for alt.censorship), I am
>>>>interested in the names and availability of any material by these bands.
>>>
>>>The music isn't really thrash; it has another label, "ska", and most of the
>>>really racist stuff is available in the United States.
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>*-----------*
>>
>>Man, you are misinformed.
>>
>>First of all, racist skinhead music is commonly of the Oi
>>variety.
>>
>>Second of all, ska is popular among the non-racist skinheads.
>>Its origins are in the black music of Jamaica, and would therefore
>>hardly be popular among racists.
> 
> Okay, you're right. Most of the stuff I listen to is ska, and I tend
> to forget the difference.
> 
>>
>>Finally, I assume you made the connection between ska and racists
>>because you've heard that skinheads like ska.  
>>that skinheads are racist.  Most skinheads are most decidedly not
>>racists, and the racists are the ones that get the press.  If you
>>want to learn about true skinheadism, refer to alt.skinheads (although
>>some racist assholes have been posting alot of shit in there lately),
>>and ask about it.
> 
> (FLAME ON!)
> Listen shithead; I know quite a bit about skinheadism. I know about the
> nazis, the antinazis, the streightedges, the gay skinheads, the black nazis
> (yes they do exist, and they're just as bad as other nazis), the communist
> skinheads, and even the Evangelist Christian skinheads that I run into once in
> a while. I used to be a skinhead (streightedge); my party buds in Chicago
> are mostly skins; and I'm not about to forget the fights I got into with the
> CASH types back in the 80's, because God knows I'm going to be on their shit
> list in the 90's. Who the fuck do you think I am, Geraldo Rivera? I used
> to be known as Glitch, and I used to write antinazi material for SHOC. Maybe
> you've heard of me, since you live in the area.
> (FLAME OFF!)
> 
>>
>>-- 
>>   "Life is inhuman when you are too old to be young." -Bill Nelson
>>   --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  /       Paul Silver          /           Radius Records            /
>> /     pauls@tellabs.com      /   PO Box 723, Lincolnshire IL 60069 /
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>>   All opinions expressed are strictly my own, unless I stole them.
> 
> Lost Boy


  I FIND IT PRETTY SAD THAT SOMEBODY IS EVEN CONSIDERING TAKING INTREST
  IN A NAZI BAND.WHO CARES IF THE MUSIC SOUNDS GOOD IF THE LYRICS
  ARE RACIST/NAZI BULLSHIT YOU SHOULDNT TOUCH IT,COS IF YOURE NOT
  RACIST/NAZI YOURSELF YOU SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO BEAR LISTENING TO THE
  CRAP THESE BANDS NO DOUBT SPOUT.RACISM/NAZIS SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED
  IN ANYWAY.FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS FINE UNTIL PEOPLE START USING IT AS AN 
  EXCUSE FOR RACE HATE AND PROMOTION OF VIOLENCE AGAINST MINORITIES.
  ALSO I CAN'T BELIEVE YOUR SQUABBLING ABOUT WETHER IT WAS SKA OR OI OR
  WHATEVER,IT WAS ALL SHIT COS IT WAS NAZI MUSIC WHATEVER STYLE IT WAS
  PLAYED IN.

   GRAHAM.