From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: Question for Charles Perez and Ted Frank
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:33:37 GMT
Followup-To: misc.legal

As quoted from <1992Aug31.145731.5839@Princeton.EDU> by egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ed Nilges):

> I'm for one surprised that anyone with a pretense, such as Henry and
> Knucklehead have, to knowing C would have enough pride to proofread even
> his pseudo-code, and I maintain that that is more important than
> knowledge of racist trivia to the issue at hand.  I am somewhat familiar

Only Nathan Bedford Nihilges would spend so much time babbling about c code
to realize that somebody had stepped on his sheet....

> What's your historical literacy re American racism and some IMPORTANT
> facts?  Here's a pop quiz:
> 
> 
>      1.  Who were the Know-Nothings?

Your "intellectual" forebears.

>      2.  What profoundly conservative 18th century literary man
>          nonetheless decried, in 1776, "cries for Liberty coming
>          from the Drivers of Negroes"?

Whoever he was, you doubtless despise him for it.

>      3.  What was the name of the man caned half to death on the
>          floor of the Senate prior to the Civil War for speaking
>          out against the South and her devotion to slavery?

A better question would be why you couldn't express your disagreement in a
less violent way....

>      5.  What slimebucket 20th century literary man displayed HIS
>          hip, slick racism by displaying his detailed knowledge
>          of the "Jose Jimenez" routines on Ed Sullivan
>          circa 1964, much in the same way that the Tedster is
>          proud of his knowledge?

Dread Nihilges?

> I'm certain that not enough evidence exists to convince bozos like you,

I'm convinced... that your an anile racist buffoon, but hey, what's new?

> First of all, when I went away to Outward Bound at the beginning of
> August, I intended to let the "Hate speech okay, Supreme Court says"
> thread die.  But an African-American man on our patrol, who proposes to
> climb Mt Everest in March and was using our expedition to train for
> this, told us, in tears, of the effect that our subtle racism was having
> on him.  This racism took the form of statements, of "free speech", that
> white people toss off without thinking, statements about "bad"
> neighborhoods that are generally false and profoundly offensive to
> people who have to, or choose to, live in "bad" neighborhoods.  I
> therefore decided to revive the discussion in order to inject Keith's
> views.

I'd bet he was referring to YOUR UNsubtle racism.  Doubtless a proud man can
only take so much of your formulating opinions for him without his consent.

> Of course, I was met by the usual shitstorm, to which I have become
> accustomed from many years of experience with boysnet.  Typical of the
> shitstorm was the display of the low priority freedom of speech really
> has in the minds of its friends, for those who defend the behavior of
> Viktora as "speech" are quick to try to silence real, written speech
> when it departs from the basket of mindless (and subtly racist)
> "libertarianism" that predominates on the net.  Also typical was the
> attempt to make all forms of speech equivalent, such that one is not an
> "intellectual" (whatever that is, it being Goofus Perez' word) if one
> does not memorize the complete corpus of comedy routines that are better
> left unread.

A lie repeated 500 times is still a lie, regardless of what you and Hitler 
might think.  The only REAL difference between you and Viktora is that he 
hasn't appeared in either net, spewing his racism... yet.  Maybe you're 
planning to get him a feed....



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From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:36:39 GMT
Subject: Re: Sperm Donor Paternity (was Re: Right To Not Support)
Organization: HP Western Response Center