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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:07:31 EDT
From: <FONSECA@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Cadaverico Finado

   Ontem vi o Defunto assinando a sua carta de rendicao. O cara esta cadaveri-
co. Nos olhos uma luz embacada, algo como o pai de Hamlet. De paleto e gravata,
rosto ceruleo, era o modelo dos sonhos de qualquer papa-defuntos. Prontinho pra
apertar os parafusos e tocar o enterro. Saiu com cara de quem acaba de ingerir
uma apreciavel quantidade de materia fecal, agarrado pateticamente 'a Bruxa de
Canapi. Essa estava apatetada, carregando pelo braco a mumia paralitica.
   Sairam pela porta lateral. Nem assim evitaram vaias. O Wash. Post de hoje
traz uma foto de um carapintada xingando o defunto. Ele so olha, sem energia
alguma, as noticias vindas do Brasil dizem que ele murmurava, "muito obrigado"
, "muito obrigado".
   Mas o defunto diz que volta da sepultura. Na certa vai passar os proximos
6 meses fazendo um retiro espiritual na Transilvania. Aconselho aos brasileiros
que carreguem no alho, agua benta e crucifixos para despachar o zumbi de uma
vez por todas para o quinto dos infernos.

   VADE RETRO SATANUS COLLORIDUS ET FEITICUM CANAPIENSIS!

Danilo
From: martinsc@ucs.orst.edu (Carlos Martins-Filho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: impeachment
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:27:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvD2EG.576
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU

A ultima noticia que recebi informa que o impeachment do Collor ja
foi aprovado na Camara dos Deputados.  No ultimo boletin recebido
os votos pro-impeachment ja somavam 336, isto e, mais que o neces-
sario para o impeachment.

Parabens ao povo brasileiro!

C. Martins
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: faller@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Newton Faller)
Subject: Futuro do Brasil
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:46:30 GMT

Todos nos brasileiros estamos de parabens. Na reportagem do New York Times
de hoje (30/9) o "brazilianist" Alfred Stepan (que muito escreveu sobre os
militares no poder) diz que este foi o primeiro "impeachment" de um
presidente em algum pais do mundo em mais de 50 anos. Observa que na America
Latina, em particular, tentativas de "impeachment" ou terminam em golpe de
estado ou no fechamento do Congresso. Nos conseguimos pelas vias 
constitucionais.

Nao vamos nos iludir, porem. A grande frente que se formou para votar de
forma avassaladora a favor do "impeachment" e' composta de uma variedade de
representantes que nao sao necessariamente contra a corrupcao. Foram contra
ESTA corrupcao onde somente uma pequena quadrilha ganhava. A nossa corrupcao
endemica nao foi estirpada! Mas, certamente, deixou os seus principais
agentes bastante preocupados. Cumpre a nos, agora, exigirmos que processos
tambem sejam instaurados para investigar suspeitos de corrupcao tanto grandes
quanto pequenos. O afastamento do presidente deve servir para acabar com a
impunidade e o imperio odioso do "sabe com quem esta' falando?".
Ninguem e' imune `a lei.

A conducao da investigacao da CPI e seus desdobramentos policiais deve
sinalizar aos membros da nossa sociedade (principalmente aos menos
poderosos) que a sua vigilancia e denuncia pode trazer mudancas substanciais
para o pais. Afinal, sem a conivencia das secretarias, dos motoristas e
de outros auxiliares um esquema de corrupcao se torna muito mais dificil.
Com a sua denuncia, ele e' praticamente impossivel.

Finalmente, gostaria de chamar a atencao para o fato de que desde o Plano
Cruzado nao ha' um consenso e boa vontade tao grande da populacao para
com o governo no sentido de resolver os mais diversos problemas que
afligem o nosso pais. Espero que Itamar Franco e seu novo ministerio entendam
este momento historico. Espero que saibam aproveitar corretamente esta nova
oportunidade que se abre para o pais, mantenham a integridade e a confianca
do povo, e dediquem-se imediatamente ao trabalho construtivo em prol da nacao.
Afinal, e' o que todos nos esperamos deles.

Saudacoes a todos,
Newton
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: perguntas
From: ssbethal@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:08:46 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

pode alguem me dizer o que esta acontecendo no brasil?
From: vilhubel@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Vilhuber Lars)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Collor passado
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:57:43 GMT
Distribution: na, sa
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Oi pessoal! Sou novo no E-mail, mas ja tenho perguntas. Estou fazendo um
pequeno paper en teoria de jogos sobre o futuro do Collor e dos presidentes
que vem. Para isso, necessito alguns dados sobre a popularidade do Collor
quando foi eleito (era uma vez, no passado longinquo...)
Alguem tem dados sobre isso, talvez uma velha VEJA ou 
algo assim com uma pesquisa da epoca? Seria uma grande ajuda!! Vou por
o paper aqui (vai ser divertido para quem entende teoria de jogos) quando
termina-lo.

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            All`s well that ends well...

Lars Vilhuber                    Internet: vilhubel@ere.tornade.umontreal.ca
From: mayor@bayes.ece.cmu.edu (Gilberto S. Mayor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: ADIDO CULTURAL
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:50:27 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon

Passo a maior parte do meu tempo lendo. Assisto filme de video
frequentemente. Vou muito ao cinema. Adoro filmes de arte apesar de ser
um genero escasso deste lado do planeta. Tenho e' verdade um
conhecimento meio escasso de piadas de salao, mas de vez em quando
recebo umas revistas Piratas do Tiete, e acabo renovando o meu estoque.
Acho enfim que eu posso com todo a perfeicao preencher o cargo de ADIDO 
CULTURAL do Brasil nos EUA ( Como falo ingles nao preciso ser adido
em Portugal).

Por que nao ? Um cargo com nome tao distinto que engloba tarefas tao
nobres, misticas, e abstratas que e' ate' dificil descreve-las. O que
faz um adido cultural ? Ve^ TV o dia inteiro ? Ou passa o dia lendo
Sartre ? Nao sou e' claro um intelectual ou um filosofo. Minhas leituras
mais recentes foram os meus livros de Monteiro Lobato. Mas mesmo assim
me sinto capaz, pronto, e cheio de vontade para assumir este cargo.
Cargo por sinal de extrema importancia para o destino do nosso pais. Nem
me importo pelo salario, ou melhor, nem preciso de salario. Para mim
basta o titulo "ADIDO CULTURAL". Assim poderei satisfazer a minha
insensata vontade de ter tido um descendente de sangue nobre.

Prometo entao a partir deste instante, cumprir com presteza todas as
minhas funcoes, sejam la' quais foram elas. Prometo honrar o nome do meu
pais, defender o meu governo perante deslavadas denuncias de corrupcao.
Prometo comer uma vez por semana feijao preto. Saberei de cor o hino
nacional e o numero de estados do nosso pais. Usarei cuecas amarelas, e
louvarei a Deus todo dia ter nascido brasileiro. Rezarei pela saude da
mae do meu presidente. Mais do que isso participarei da cruzada
moralista pelo esclarecimento destas inocuas acusacoes. Serei o modelo
do brasileiro, bem comportado, bem educado. 

E Viva o Brasil !

Gilberto (Adido Brasileiro nos EUA)

PS: ESqueci de dizer. A nobre Rosane Collor esta' sendo processada pois
desviou mais de 1 bilhao de cruzeiros da LBA (dinheiro p/ os pobres)
para uma Fundacao QUE NAO EXISTE em Canapi, cuja sede coincidentemente
e' a casa da mae dela.
farei sempre a barba e o
From: m2m@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Collor - agora o senado
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:14:56 EDT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

Pelo que eu entendi ate agora o congresso esta dando o sinal
verde para o senado tirar o Collor da presidencia.
Mas e o senado, como fica? Sera que o Collor teria chance
de nao ser impedido no senado, e dai voltar ao palacio apos
180 dias. (aii nao seria palacio do planalto mas palhacio do planalto).
Alguem tem informacao de como esta a coisa entre os senadores?
Marcio Mendonca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: tsen+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Chung Kang Tsen)
Subject: Re: Minha Gente!
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:26:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.065942.20755@wheaton.wheaton.edu> gmribeir@david.wheaton.edu (Glauber) writes:
>
>Agora deu saudade da Casseta
>

A Casseta e' uma das melhores publicacoes brasileiras na minha opiniao,
e eles fazem o tipo de humor Politicamente Incorreto que so' quem viveu
no Brasil consegue realmente apreciar (tipo "Quando o estupro...").

Mais uma da Casseta pro pessoal matar saudades:

   "Chega de amadorismo, Escadinha pra' presidente." (Quando explodiram
as acusacoes do esquema PC contra o Finado).


--Tsen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: tsen+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Chung Kang Tsen)
Subject: Re: histe'rico(a)s
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:35:12 GMT

>	Parece que ha' um enorme grupo de histe'ricos que 
>	esta~o esperneando-se de alegria com a iminente queda
>	do atual Presidente.
>	Ao inve's de jogar palavroe~s e ataques sem nexo, porque
>	nao usar a cabec@ que suponho que tenham para analisar
>	a situac@o como gente.

Placar do Impeachment

boletim# 018 (ULTIMO MESMO!) hora: 19:32 C

RESULTADO FINAL:

a favor...: 441 <<< Collor ja' era!
contra....: 38
ausentes..: 23
abstencao.: 1

Precisa dizer mais alguma coisa?

BRASIL!!!  BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!!
BRASIL!!!  BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!!
BRASIL!!!  BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!!
BRASIL!!!  BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!!
BRASIL!!!  BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!!


Do analista politico Gilberto (depois do voto do Paulo Romano):

  "Ta' na hora da gente tomar uma cervejinha..."

Abracos verde-amarelos,


     Tsen   (Histeriquissimo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: rolls@cis.umassd.edu (Frank Pinto)
Subject: E-Mails da UFMG-BH
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:04:46 GMT

Alo todos

Se alguem tiver, e puder me enviar E-Mails da UFMG em
Belo Horizonte eu ficaria muito agredecido.

Thanx

Xico
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: xexeo@dxcern.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo)
Subject: Re: Racismo! alemao?
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:24:00 GMT

In article <BvI854.20z.2@cs.cmu.edu>, tsen+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Chung Kang Tsen) writes:
> O Xexeo escreveu:
> 
> >   O Gilberto, bom mineiro, assumiu uma atitude racista ao qualificar o
> > "alemao" de racista. Ja tive essa discussao na bras-net e vou ter aqui 
> > de novo.
> 
>   Xexeo, a sua frase acima nao e' necessariamente verdadeira. O fato 
> do Gilberto ou qualquer outra pessoa desaprovar o racismo alemao (e nao a raca
> alema) nao torna essa pessoa necessariamente racista. 
> 

   Claro, claro, longe de mim querer dizer isso. Por isso escrevi
"assumiu uma atitude racista". Por que voce conta uma piada racista,
nao e' necessariamente racista, esta apenas "assumindo uma posicao
racista". Esta sendo "politicamente incorreto" no jargao americano.

   O que eu luto contra e' a qualificacao que certo povo e' racista.
Nao escrevo mails sobre quem diz "o movimento racista na Alemanha",
mas sim contra quem associa o racismo ao alemao e usa isso como
desculpa para "manter o povo alemao vigiado" e tantas outros
chavoes.

  Abracos,

         Xexeo



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From: aless@ax.apc.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Date: 05 Oct 92 17:10 PDT
Subject: Re: Acesso `a rede INTERNET
Nf-ID: #R:1992Sep29.125807.4323@wheaton.wh:1994886290:ax:1191000065:000:164
Nf-From: ax.UUCP!aless    Oct  5 17:10:00 1992



Yes, there is an internet connection to AlterNex/Brazil.
You can do:
              telnet ax.apc.org


-------
.aless.
suporte/ax!

Nodo AlterNex
aless@ax.apc.org
From: adumi-v@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Post election speculation
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:26:33 GMT
Organization: UB
Originator: adumi-v@cfd11.eng.buffalo.edu



In article <1992Sep29.174614.27611@news.uiowa.edu>  acarstea@icaen.uiowa.edu (Alin-Andrei Carsteanu) writes:

>>
I guess, the most chilling disaster that the "communist era" has
left us with (and I intentionally say "us", including myself, be-
cause I really (!) don't want to insult anyone with this), is the
terrible lack of education, resulting from closing the door to
human values and to authentic culture.
You're not getting weird, Radu, and neither was Blaga.
Not the Party is the problem, but the Reproductors. And there is
not even a conceivable immediate solution. (As long as there are
enough palpitating reproductors, they'll have their party...)
>>

There are in your statement some very disputable claims. First would be
the supposedly lack of education inherited from the last regime. On the
contrary, I strongly believe that in the "golden era" one of the few good
points was the education, even if it was tendentious. Many of us were 
able to learn more in the time of "humanistic socialism" than were able 
our peer americans (as an anecdotic example, one of my fellow american
high ranked Ph.D. students, asked once if James Joyce is an american
writer). That revolute society was consumming culture, lacking other 
means of leisure.  

Second, without being a populist, I feel that applying Blaga's adage at 
this scale (the entire romanian society) is somehow unfair. In no way
I want to be impertinent, but what mysteries did your parents (or Radu's
ones) reveal?  There was sometimes a nice polemic between C. Noica and
G. Liceeanu referred as 'the baker's defense', which could stay as the
basis of this argument. An elitist society is doomed to fail, anyhow.

The election results can be seen as a consequence of the political
immaturity of the electorate, and of the new political leaders. We have
to take into account the romanian mentality effect, too. La dolce far
niente, the social Security, the relative 'prosperity and peace', and 
other 'nice features' of the old times are still alive in the spirit of
the above-middle-age people, and Iliescu and his fellows represent the
missing link with those times. They (the a-m-a people) want some continuity,
the other political figures are too unsure. They need some protection
in this new wild world. 
Personally, I fear more from worms like Corneliu Vadim Tudor, or Ghe. Funar
than from the old fox Iliescu.
But still, with a miracle, four years with Iliescu could be avoided.

Auguri,

Virgil 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 13:53:45 -0400 
From: Thomas Richardson <tr2g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Many Thanks


I would like to say thank you to all those who provided information
about textbooks on the Romanian language.

Like others who have posted requests on the net, I was surprised that
the number of responses was much greater than one would have suspected
from the number of those regularly posting. It seems that many more read
net.soc.culture.romanian than write to it!

Many thanks once again (Multumesc foarte mult)

Yours,

Thomas Richardson

Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: pebi@aem.umn.edu (Peter A. Bidian)
Subject: Re: Platforms ? 
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:23:15 GMT

broder@src.dec.com (Andrei Broder) writes:

>Can a good (and informed) soul post a two line description of the
>various parties, full names and current platforms, especially the
>small ones?  I am starting to get lost in the alphabet soup.

>Thanks,

>- Andrei

Yes, please add me on that confused list. I am not 'on line' with
all the acronyms. I was mainly interested what the name of the paries
are which got so many cotes in Transsylvania.

Thanks,

Peter


		                                                               
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 9/28/92
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:27:13 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

RFE/RL Daily Report          No. 186, 28 September 1992

ROMANIAN ELECTIONS ORDERLY, GOOD TURNOUT. On 27 September
Romanians voted in the second presidential and general elections
after the collapse of Nicolae Ceausescu's regime in December 1989.
The elections came at the end of a relatively calm electoral
campaign, in sharp contrast with the one in May 1990, which was
marred by violence, fraud, and intimidation.  There were six
presidential candidates and more than 10,600 candidates from 83
parties and alliances competing for seats in the 471-seat,
two-chamber parliament.  An estimated 75% of the 16.4 million
electorate turned out at the 14,000-odd polling stations, under
the eyes of more than 500 foreign and 8,000 domestic observers.
(Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

ILIESCU LEADS--RUNOFF LIKELY. Preliminary results circulated by
Romanian TV shortly before the polling stations closed at 9:00
p.m.  showed incumbent President Ion Iliescu leading with 48% of
the vote over his main challenger, Emil Constantinescu (33%),
running on the ticket of the Democratic Convention (DC), an
alliance of 18 centrist parties and organizations. If accurate,
these projections, based on an exit poll made by the German
Applied Social Research Institute and the Romanian Institute for
Public Opinion Survey, indicate that Iliescu is likely to win the
reelection in a runoff to be held on 11 October. A former
high-ranking communist official, Iliescu appears to have enjoyed
massive support from the less educated, conservative electorate in
rural areas and small towns. The Democratic National Salvation
Front (DNSF), the party supporting Iliescu, is also leading with
27.5% in those projections. The contest for the parliament,
however, seems much tighter, with the DC in second place with 23%
and Petre Roman's National Salvation Front on the third, with 11%.
This suggests that a coalition will be needed to form the next
government.  Among the DNSF's possible allies are nationalist and
leftist parties.  First official preliminary results are expected
at midday 28 September, while the final outcome will probably not
be known before 6 October. (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

--
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via LISTSERV (RFERL-L@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU), on the
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Copyright 1992, RFE/RL, Inc. All rights reserved.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: ph20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul Grigore Hodor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 9/24/92
Date: 27 Sep 92 09:08:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kelSeWO00iUxI24H9f
Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


On 26-Sep-92 in Re: Moldova/Romania News fr..
user A. Carsteanu@icaen.uiowa writes:

>In article <1992Sep24.130417.14875@umr.edu> msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu
(Mihai Sirb
>u) writes:
>>RFE/RL Daily Report           No. 184, 24 September 1992
>>
>>ROMANIA'S NSF LEADER ON POST-ELECTORAL STRATEGY.  Petre Roman,
>>leader of the National Salvation Front and former prime minister,
>>praised his opposition rivals at a press conference on 23
>>September. Roman said that the DC is likely to win the elections
>>and to form Romania's first genuinely democratic government since
>>the 1989 anti-communist revolution. He further pledged his party's
>>support for the DC in the parliament, even if the NSF is not part
>>of the next government; but added that the offer was limited to
>>the period necessary to achieve stability in Romania.  Roman
>>declined to be drawn out on press speculations that he could
>>become foreign minister in the new cabinet.  (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL,
>>Inc.)
>>
> 
>I think, this might be essential! Everyone was very loud about the
>presidential elections, and it's really amazing for me, why!? Romania
>does not have a "Presidential system". (Fortunately, unlike in the
>US, in Romania the president does not have any veto rights against
>laws, et c.). Some told me "it's an important symbol". Symbol of what?
>Of the paternalism we're not able to get rid of? "The president giving
>us salami"?
>[...]
> 
>Best wishes to everyone & good luck to Romania, as someone was saying!
> 
>	Alin

Let's not forget that the country is actually run not by the parliament,
but by the government. And that the prime minister is appointed by the
president.

Paul Hodor
Carnegie Mellon U, Dept Bio Sci
Pittsburgh, PA, USA
From: moga@gringo.usc.edu (Adrian Moga)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Platforms ?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 15:14:29 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gringo.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep30.192719.17780@news.uiowa.edu> acarstea@icaen.uiowa.edu (Alin-Andrei Carsteanu) writes:


>PRNU=Party for Romanian National Unity (PUNR)
> (backed Gh. Funar, the mayor of Cluj, for Presidency; I don't know
> whether he's the leader or not)

Radu Ciontea is the leader. Some say it's not PUNR that proposed Funar
for presidency, but the Cluj county's local PUNR organization, and that 
Funar and Ciontea are not very good friends. Somehow Funar managed to
get support in the end.

> DAP=Democratic Agrarian Party (PDA=Partidul Democrat Agrar) (I don't
> know the leader)

I think it's Victor Surdu.

>EMR=Ecologist Movement of Romania (MER=Miscarea Ecologista din Romania)
>    (former leader and now honorary president: Toma George Maiorescu;
>  don't know leader)

Sometimes during this summer, in a suprising move, most of the leaders at
that time were expelled from MER. That includes TGM, Dolphi Drimer and
others, whose names I forgot.


The CD (Democratic Convention) is largely composed of:
CA (Civic Alliance) = AC (Alianta Civica)
NPP (National Peasant Party) = PNT (Partidul National Taranesc)
SDP (Social Democratic Party) = PSD (Partidul Social- Democratic)
HDUR = UDMR 
NLP-YW (National Liberal Party-the Young Wing) = PNL-AT
AFPPR = The Association of Former Political Prisoners of Romania = AFDPR
and other smaller parties

Emil Constantinescu was elected as CD's candidate for presidency
after 5 rounds of voting (a 60-70 people committee). Other personalities
under consideration where Ion Ratiu, Nicolae Manolescu, Sergiu
Cunescu, Nicu Stancescu.

Cheers!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian