HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Stephen Tweedie)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Magic match failed!
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:50:10 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh Dept. of Computer Science, Scotland

In article <Bw2xC1.4t5@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Bill.Viggers@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Bill Viggers) writes:

> Nntp-Posting-Host: debretts.comp.vuw.ac.nz

> I tried using the SLS release 0.98 for the first time last night.
> Placing the a1 disk in the drive, all proceded fine.  However after
> it said 'place root disk in the drive' things began to fail rather
> badly. I placed the disk a2 (as this is the other rawrite'ed disk I
> assume this is the root disk) in the drive and got a message 'magic
> match failed', along with:

> magic match failed (a second time)
> [cms-dos FS rel. alpha 8, FAT 12, check=n, conv=b]
> [no=cxf9, cs=1, #f=2, fs=1, f1=7, ds=15, de=224, data=29, se=2400,es=0]
> no bmap support

> What have I done wrong? And is it likely to be related to
> installing a new HD on my machine?

> Bill

The "magic match failed" message is issued by the kernel when it tries
to mount a file system and cannot find the correct header information
for that file system on the block device.

When Linux mounts the root partition, it tries to look for all the
different possible file system types on the partition in the order
minix, extfs, dosfs.  It does this by trying to mount the different
types in that order, until one of the mounts succeeds.  The messages
you describe means that linux has mounted a DOS filing system as root
--- the two magic match failures mean that linux has failed to find a
minix or an extfs file system, and the rest of the blurb is the
standard information printed out whenever linux mounts a dos file
system.

I'm not familiar with SLS --- I started out with mcc-interim --- but I
suspect that your rawritten disk should NOT have a dos file system on
it; mounting a dos file system as root is legal, but probably not what
was intended.  Rawrite should be able to create a valid minix disk,
completely overwriting the dos information formatted onto it by the
dos format command.  Your best bet might be to download the a2 disk
again.  Then again, I might be talking garbage... Your mileage may
vary.

Good luck anyway - Who said Linux was the best thing since sliced
bread?  Sliced bread doesn't even come close!

Cheers,
 Stephen Tweedie.
---
Stephen Tweedie <sct@uk.ac.ed.dcs>   (Internet: <sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk>)
Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University, Scotland.
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Writing Linux disks on Sun
Keywords: sun
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:48:45 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Oct9.020406.11242@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams ) writes:

| I have also transferred data using the DOS file system capability of the 3.5"
| drive on the SUN. This method is an order of magnitude slower than tarring as
| the SUN's read/write to DOS floppies is very slow (nearly 1/2 hour for one full
| floppy).

Eek! Get mtools for Sun. The advantage over tar is that you can add
stuuf from time to time without having to rebuild a tar. I usually zip
the stuff to save space and preserve filenames.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    Keyboard controller has been disabled, press F1 to continue.
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need a sed binary
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:45:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct7.164527.11280
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

In article <26612@castle.ed.ac.uk>, mfg@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Gordon) writes:
|> Does anyone know where I can grab a sed binary by FTP?  I've only
|> been able to find the sources.  A couple of the gcc installation
|> scripts use sed, but I managed to get around that and have gcc
|> up and running.  I've got a copy of the sources for GNU sed 1.09,
|> but the configure script needs a sed binary to run.
|> 
|> -- 
|>                                                          _   _   _    _   _	
|> Michael Gordon - mfg@castle.ed.ac.uk OR ee.ed.ac.uk     | |_| |_| |__| |_| |   
|> EE Dept, Edinburgh University                           | . . . .      . . |    
|> It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one    |_________|~~|_____|    


Sed 1.09 is in disk 2 of the Linux Base System.

H.J.
----
This is the Linux Base System, HJ release. It is linked with jump table
4.1. You should use it with my bootable root disks since the Linux Base
System has no shared images, which are required by all the binaries in
it. It has 3 minix disks. It can fit in either 5.25" or 3.5" floppy. It
is great as the system backup.

It is on tsx-11.mit.edu under pub/linux/GCC/basedisk.


A. Disk 1 (base1.Z)

It has /bin, /dev and /etc. Since ps stuffs are kernel dependent, you
should use the ones come with my bootable root disk.

In /bin, there are fileutils 3.3, shellutils 1.7, textutils 1.3, gnu
tar 1.10, ldd 1.1, compress 4.2.4, bash 1.12, zsh 2.20, doshell, fdisk
0.93, admutil 1.3, poeigl 1.6 and setfdprm. clock is here.

FYI, compress 4.2.4 is here, which fixed a few bugs in 4.2.3.

Color ls is here :-).

In /etc, there are init/getty and other related stuffs,
mount/umount/swapon and LILO 0.5.


B. Disk 2 (base2.Z)

It has /usr. There are diff 1.15, find 3.7, grep 1.6, fgrep 1.1,
gnu make 3.62, gawk 2.13.2, flex 2.3.7, bison 1.18, patch 2.0.12u7,
sed 1.09, elvis 1.6, minicom 1.3.2, rzsz (This one may only work with
minicom.), more, setterm, od, strings and uuencode/uudecode. The time
stuffs are also on this disk. Please read usr/lib/zoneinfo/time.doc
for details.


C. Disk 3 (base3.Z)

This disk is basically a developement disk wihout compiler and library.
It has /usr. There are crt0.o/gcrt0.o, gdb 4.6, as, ar, gprof, ld, nm,
objdump, ranlib, size and strip

To install them on your hard drive.

1. uncompress base[1|2|3].Z.
2. rawrite or dd it to a floppy disk.

Now you have made a copy of Linux Base System on floppy. To copy it to
your hd, you should mount the floppy first and copy the disk. That is

mount /dev/fd[0|1] /mnt
cd /mnt
for d in bin dev etc usr
do
  if [ -d $d ]; then
    cp -av $d /
  fi
done


Thanks.

H.J.
hlu@eecs.wsu.edu
10/02/09
From: wmbfmk@rw9.urc.tue.nl (Marc van Kempen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I use gcc to develop MS-DOS apps ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:02:51 GMT
Reply-To: wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl

billp@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Bill Parquet) writes:

>rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:
>: 
>: Is it possible to develop an MS-DOS application on Linux
>: using g++ 2.2.2d ? [No flame please].
>: Like a -target msdos switch for cross compiling ?
>: 
>: Would be nice... linux + gcc(g++) is a very nice development
>: environment. Comments ?

>Download djgcc.  Its a 32 bit compiler that runs under dos.  It seems
>to run pretty nice (at least with the little bit of work that I've 
>done with it.  I think either wuarchive.wustl.edu or nic.funet.fi
>should have it.)
>-- 

>billp@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu
>---
># rm -r /msdos /os2 /windows.nt


You may also want to look at emx, a gcc port from Eberhart Matters. It
does not include graphics like djgpp does, but it is a 32-bit compiler
which allows you to run the applications that you compile for DOS, to
run under OS/2 2.0 as well.
It even includes some support for the presentation manager and other
OS/2 specific functions..
You can get it from rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de

Marc.
(wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: yuanyin@utdallas.edu (Yuan-Yin Wu)
Subject: Re: Is there a 'lpr' type command for linux?
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:54:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.125335.15913@bnr.ca> minyard@bnr.ca (Corey Minyard) writes:
>I have ported plp (a free lpr clone) to linux.  It is currently in the
>ALPHA directory, but I haven't gotten any feedback from any users to tell
>me if they like it or not.  (I think my mailer may be having problems, but
>that is another story).  It is in:
>
>   pup/OS/Linux/testing/beta/PLP

Could you please point out which ftp site it is on? Thanks a lot.
>
>and is source-code only.  It should compile as-is for domain sockets.  If
>you have TCP running, I would really like to hear if it works when compiled
>for inet sockets.
>
>Corey
>minyard@wf-rch.cirr.com
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Corey Minyard


-- 
Yuan-yin Wu      yuanyin@utdallas.edu       (214) 690-2152
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Once again -- FileSystem corruption
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:55:39 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <705559005snx@grendel.demon.co.uk> jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.074930.23728@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:
>> 
>> The drive seems to work perfectly ok under DOS - but DOS (BIOS) doesn't
>> even use interrupts in the harddisk driver.  Does the maxtor work under
>> OS/2?
>>
>As far as I know, every BIOS hard disc driver does use interrupts.

Hmm.  I have only the IBM AT technical manual to check from (which does
include the BIOS disassembly), and at least that BIOS (original IBM AT)
does not use interrupts for the harddisk, but busy waiting (actually,
the interrupt *is* used to set the flag that the BIOS is waiting on, but
that's it). 

Linux does all the IO processing in the actual interrupt routine, which
probably makes it a bit more timing-critical than some other solutions. 

>								    A
>common problem with older BIOS's is that some IDE drives will raise the
>interrupt on a read before the drive is actually ready to transfer data.
>Older BIOS's often simply begin reading the data as soon as the
>interrupt is received and in some cases -  I found this with Quantam
>drives, the data is replaced with garbage.

Yes, linux had the same problem in earlier drivers (pre-0.96 I think),
and there were some reports about trouble with Quantum drives. 

>					    The code needs to wait for
>the interrupt to occur, then wait for the data ready flag in the status
>register (or better still the alternate status register) before
>performing data transfers.

Linux already does this (but I don't see any reason for using the
alternate status register - the function is exactly the same aside from
accnowledging the interrupt). The problem seems to be something else
with the maxtor drives - my guess is that the status register isn't
always up-to-date or similar.  I'm still looking into it and trying to
find safe ways to make it a bit less timing-critical.

		Linus
From: kilroy@ms.uky.edu (Paul S. Kilroy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS problem with Xmono
Date: 11 Oct 92 03:55:19 GMT
Organization: Big, Dangerous Ideas, Inc.

Hi all,

	I'm having a problem with the SLS newest release
   I just grabbed everything today, Everything looks great
   except I cant get X up and running. Here is what I have
   done,
     rm /usr/X386/bin/X
     ln /usr/X386/bin/X /usr/X386/bin/X386mono
     then I edited the Xconfig file to 
     be able to use my microsoft mouse on ttys1
    
   here is the problem.. i type startx, and I get
   a ~gray backround, and an X pointer.. I can move
   the pointer but thats it, the buttons dont respond
   (I assumed twm didnt get run), no xterm either.

please help me 

thanks
paul

     
-- 
                       -Paul   (kilroy@ms.uky.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Ching-Hsiang Chen <chchen@stat.fsu.edu>
Subject: XFM 1.1: not work at all
Reply-To: chchen@stat.fsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:04:16 GMT

I've tried XFM 1.1, from old X version 1.1 to current Xfree86, including
both binary and source version. I could compile it w/o any problem
at all but each time I ran it, it gave me a core dump. This happened
when I still got a 386SX/16 to current 386DX/33. I got 5 mb RAM.
Kind of frustrating. Anyone succeeds?

Steve Chen             chchen@stat.fsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sthomas@worldbank.org (Sidney F. Thomas)
Subject: busmouse not recognized by X-server under SLS linux 0.98 ...
Organization: The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:07:42 GMT

I recently downloaded SLS linux distribution, version 0.98,
an upgrade from the SLS 0.96c version previously distributed.
The new distribution recognizes my Logitech busmouse on bootup,
but the X-server does not.  I have tried the same Xconfig settings
that worked previously under SLS 0.96c.  The error message given by
startx is, among others, "Cannot open mouse: Invalid argument",
"Creating TCP socket: Invalid argument", ending with "Fatal server
error: failed to initialize core devices".  What's the fix?
Other than going back to SLS 0.96 (under which I never got
xspread working) :-) ?

--Sidney Thomas
sthomas@nimbus@worldbank.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: keane@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Matthews Keane)
Subject: Using a Bernoulli Box with Linux.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 18:32:06 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

I've played with Linux on other machines and would greatly like to get
it up and running on my machine at home.  Sadly, I have too much
investment in DOS software, etc. on my home machine (Work is a joy to
be in UNIX :-) ) and I only have a 90 MB HD.  I am interested in
purchasing one of IOMEGA's new PC-Powered 90's -- this would allow
separate cartridges for BC++ 3.0, OS/2, etc... and I would like to set
up a Linux cartridge.  Does anyone have any experience with this.
Does Linux even recognize a Bernoulli?  How about running it from the
OS/2 boot manager????

Thanks.
Christopher Keane
keane@earthsun.umd.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: smace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Mace)
Subject: Re: Standard Speed/Length RS-232 Cable Limits
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: cable, length, RS-232, speed, limit
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 21:21:12 GMT

In article <1bhnv3INN7j6@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu writes:
>michaelw@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Michael Will) writes:
>>I want to place my 386-machine running linux 0.98 in the cellar, since
>>it is rather loud (harddrives, fan) and I do not need graphics at the
>>moment.
>>
>>The cable for rs232 should not be longer than 12meters, right?
>>
>>Alas, I need it longer. I'd say it is about 20meters.   [...]
>
>Here's the 'official' numbers (according to Cisco's router inst. guide):
>
>--- begin --- Quote of Cisco's "IGS Hardware and Installation Reference"
>
>Console Cable Considerations
>	When setting up your system, consider electromagnetic interference
>	and, when using RS-232 connections, distance limitations
>
>Distance Limitations
>	As with all signaling systems, RS-232 can travel a limited
>	distance at any given bit rate; generally, the slowere the
>	data rate, the greater the distance.  Table 2-1 shows the
>	standard relationship between bit rate and distance.
>
>	Table 2-1	RS-232 Speed Versus Distance
>
>	Data Rate	Distance (Feet)		Distance (Meters)
>	---------------------------------------------------------
>	2400		200			60
>	4800		100			30
>	9600		50			15
>	19200		25			7.6
>	38400		12			3.7
>
At  home I can run 38400 baud over a 100ft length with 0 errors.  At
work, I can rarely get more than 20 ft.  It all depends on the amount of
electromagnetic interference.

--
*********************************************************************
*    Scott Mace                internet:    smace@nyx.cs.du.edu     *
*                                           emace@tenet.edu         *
*********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lmfken@lmf.ericsson.se (Kenneth Osterberg)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Xview3 libraries? Can anyone help?
Organization: Oy LM Ericsson Ab, Jorvas, Finland
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:36:55 GMT

jjlawren@garfield.waterloo.edu (Jay Lawrence - DCS) writes:
>I think the subject says it all.  I got the xview distribution, but I am
>not quite that comfortable trying to do a compile.  Besides, I suspect
>that whoever compiled the olvwm has the xview3 lib compiled...right?
>
>If anyone does have the Xview3.a (or whatever) available and handy can
>you help me out???  I want to get more openlook style programs on my
>computer at home so it is more like the one at work.... :-))

I've been hacking on the XView sources for some time, and most of it seems
to work ok. Even the cmdtool/shelltool works, though there are some problems
with it. There are definitely serious bugs, because some of the examples
in the notifier directory do not work correctly.

Questions to lib-gurus:

Before I upload what I have, I'd like to know how difficult it is to make
shared/jump libraries. As it is now, about the smallest XView app.
(clocktool) is >800kb in size. I've looked at the the shlib-utils for
making the shared libc & libX11, but to put it bluntly they are
incomprehensible (at least to me).

Are there any plans to support TIOCREMOTE mode tty? This is something that
linux seems to lack.

--
"Remember, the source will be with you... always" | lmfken@lmf.ericsson.se 
          -  Obi-wan teaching GNU CopyLeft        | lmfken@bluese1.ericsson.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: maniac@hammond.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Subject: ls, how to configure
Reply-To: maniac@hammond.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 00:11:34 GMT

Is the ls in the HJ package configurable at run time, or is it
done at compile time?  I'd really like to get rid of the 
color options, and revert to normal ls listings, but
having just learned how to add a user, I've still a lot to 
learn before I can take the time to study this phenomena.

-- 
Eric J. Schwertfeger, maniac@cs.unlv.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: What the hell is a TCP socket?
Originator: cs911461@a06.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:21:16 GMT



Please pardon my stupid questions!

I'm wondering if there is anyone out there who could be patient
enough to explain to me exactly what a "socket" is.  When I installed
the SLS 0.98, I got a lot of tar errors from disk b4 which seemed
to concern [TCP] sockets (X isn't loading and I expect that a non-
configured "listening socket" (or something to that effect) may be to 
blame.

Any information is greatly appreciated,


C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca
From: ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Compiling OLWM under Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:57:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Oct16.045703.12275
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

I know this one was discussed awhile ago, but I've only just recently
jumped on the X bandwagon. Sorry for the repetition.

I'm trying to compile the OLWM source I found on tsx-11 under 0.98-pl1
with GCC 222d7 and the 4.1 libraries. Compilation of olwm.c and
a few others fail with a few errors. Is there a trick to getting this
to compile?

The exact error from olwm.c was on line 654; it complained about not
knowing the storage size of 'union wait status'.

Any help or pointers to information I could use to solve this
would be helpful.

-Chris

-- 
>>>> Chris Newbold <<<< * "If you fool around with a thing for very long you *
University of Rochester	*  		  will screw it up."		     *
Disclaimer: "All warranties expire upon payment of invoice."                
ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu * uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ctne_ltd@uunet
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: butler@cs.tulane.edu (Larry Butler)
Subject: 222d7 and header files
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-26147]: sinbad
Keywords: gcc include header
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:34:27 GMT
From: dennisf@miles.com (Dennis Flaherty)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Use of zip (or freeze) instead of compress
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:48:27 GMT
Organization: Miles, Inc.  Diagnostics Divis.

In article <1bhpofINN7sl@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick "The Compression Crusader" Miller) writes:
> Okay, it has come up again.  The "Gosh!  There sure is a *difference*!!"
> compression algorithm debate.  I'll just add my 'too sense' up front...

The fact that it keeps coming up again and again might lead us to
consider changing the defacto compression standard on our archive sites
from Compress to something else more modern.

> [un]compress	Pro:  This is (currently) the de-facto UNIX *STANDARD*.
> 		      Hey, it's not bad... it's just not that great.
> 		Con:  Only does one file.  Archiving requires 'tar'.
> 
> [un]zip		Pro:  Good compression (better than 'compress').
> 		      Archives multiple files/directories into one file.
> 		Con:  <GUILT MODE ON> Phil Katz (the "PK" of PKWare) won't
> 			be making any money by this use of his invention. 
> 		???:  This is somewhat of a DOS standard. (Pro?/Con? :-)
> 
> lha		Pro:  Very good compression (better than 'zip').
> (*not* 'lharc')	      Archives multiple files/directories into one file.
> 		      Placed in the public domain freely by the author.
> 		Con:  The original 'man' page is in Japanese.  (Though
> 			every distribution I've seen includes enough
> 			documentation in decent English to compensate.)
> 
> You choose.

But pleeze don't forget!

freeze     Pro:  Drop-in replacement for Compress.  You get .F extensions
                   instead of .Z.  Period.  Why, you can even make
                   compress a link to freeze if you like.
                 Compression results comparable to the others, usually
                   better.  Frozen files are 25-35% smaller than Compressed.
           Con:  It's slow.

Freeze uses LZW compression plus Huffman codes.  It's available as
freeze.2.3.5.tar.Z on tsx-11 (currently in /incoming?).

-- 
Dennis T. Flaherty     dennisf@Miles.com
Miles, Inc.            dflahert@chekov.helios.nd.edu
Diagnostics Division
My doctor says Mylanta, but my boss says Alka-Seltzer!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: SCSI hangs up after ident on boot
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:06:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.171826.14638@den.mmc.com> keng@den.mmc.com (Ken Garrido) writes:
>
>
>Don't know if this is FAQ.
>I am brand-new to this, just subscribed to the group.
>If I breach netiquette, please email me a FAQL.
>
>HELP !
>
>As I boot, I get a message that reads :
>
>SCSI : detected 1 SCSI disk 0 tapes total
>SCSI host 2 timed out - aborting command 
>

The factory configuration for the Seagate SCSI boards is for DOS - 
ie interrupts are disabled.  Needless to say, this doesn't work
in a real operating system that's expecting interrupts when 
a SCSI command is done.

Jumper your board for IRQ5, and things should be fine.

-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
marketing's sins don't come close to those of legal departments.
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit.