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From: stella@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Stella Vertnik)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: MINNESOTA NATURISTS WINTER CO CALENDAR
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:47:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U of MN Herbarium


WINTER 1992-93 CLOTHING-OPTIONAL CALENDAR
                  MINNESOTA NATURISTS

Kids are admitted FREE at all activities.

**Tentative.

Tuesday, January 5 - DISCUSSION GROUP House Party in S. Mpls.
6:30 - 9:30 PM.

Sunday, January 10 - INDOOR HOTTUB PARTY in Hopkins.  8-10 PM.
$8 at the door.  No glass containers or alcohol.  Bring a towel.

Saturday, January 16 - MIXED PAIRS OUTDOOR HOTTUB PARTY in SE
Mpls.  4 PM - ?.  $4 per adult.  BYOB and a towel.  Snacks provided.

Thursday, January 21 - VOLLEYBALL in S. Mpls. 7-9 PM  $3 at the door.

Sunday, January 24 - INDOOR SWIM in Eagan.  6-10 PM.  $5 at the
door.  Fins, masks, snorkels, pool toys provided.  "Discover
SCUBA" option at 9 PM.  Bring a towel.

Thursday, January 28 - VOLLEYBALL in S. Mpls. 7-9 PM  $3 at the door.

Thursday, February 4 - VOLLEYBALL in S. Mpls. 7-9 PM  $3 at the door.

Sunday, February 7 - FITNESS CENTER RECREATION in NE Mpls.
2-5 PM.  $6 at the door.  Court games, exercise equipment, jacuzzis,
tanning.  Bring a towel.

Saturday, February 13 - BOARD GAMES in SE Mpls.  6:30 PM.  $3 at the
door.  Snacks provided.  BYOB and a towel to sit on.

Wednesday, February 17 - DISCUSSION GROUP House Party in S. Mpls.
at 7 PM.

Thursday, February 18 - VOLLEYBALL in S. Mpls. 7-9 PM  $3 at the door.

Saturday, February 20 - BOWLING IN THE BUFF in S. Mpls. 9 PM to 1 AM.
$8 at the door for unlimited bowling, $4 if not bowling.  Ping pong, pool,
video games, and bar food/drink also available.  Bring a towel to sit on.

Thursday, February 25 - VOLLEYBALL in S. Mpls. 7-9 PM  $3 at the door.

Saturday, February 27 - OUTDOOR HOTTUB PARTY in S. Mpls.
7 PM - midnight.  $8 at the door.  BYOB and a towel.  Snacks provided.

Saturday, February 28 - MIXED PAIRS OUTDOOR HOTTUB PARTY in S.
Mpls.  2-6 PM.  $8 at the door, or $4 if you attended the previous
evening.  BYOB and a towel.  Snacks provided.

Sunday, March 6 - INDOOR SWIM in Eagan.  6-10 PM.  $5 at the
door.  Fins, masks, snorkels, pool toys provided.  "Discover
SCUBA" option at 9 PM.  Bring a towel.

         -- VISITORS WELCOME AT ALL ACTIVITIES --


-- For further details, call John at (612) 339-3898 or 
Pam at (612) 333-0949.

E-mail to farquhar_allen_b@lilly.com.

This applies to Mixed Pairs SIG events only (as noted above):
Any member or guest may attend - but they must be 
accompanied by a MOTOS, insuring an even gender ratio.  The 
person could be a friend, brother, sister, daughter, son, parent, 
partner, spouse, etc.

All other events:
Any member or guest may attend.
From: jpexg@gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU (John Purbrick)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Naked men in movies (re: Network Nudes)
Date: 25 Dec 1992 01:47:22 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


[This ought to be Re: nudists on TV. Can someone explain how to reply to 
postings when using a mail-in news gateway?]


Movies that featured male nudity (stampede to video rental store):

Women in Love
A Room with a View
Prospero's Books
The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover
The Groove Tube (how long ago was that?)
Monty Python's "Life of Brian"
The Return of the Secaucus Seven (and NONE of the women, even though they
                       could have done)
The Little Drummer Girl (very briefly)
Damage???    my significant-other would go to see Jeremy Irons read the 
             telephone directory but we haven't seen this one yet

Many of these were British films--and it's usually the British imports 
that show bare breasts on public TV. European material would probably be the 
same, however. Speaking of Jeremy Irons, remember the episode of "Brideshead 
Revisited", where he and Diana Quick were in bed while his wife was seasick? 
They were shown (fully) in a head-shoulders-and-chest view and supposedly she
said they ought to be naked, and undressed completely; but she couldn't talk 
him into doing likewise.

I don't go to enough movies to comment on the circumstances of the female 
nudity people have mentioned. Are the actresses who do it the stars 
of the film or just bit players? In most of the films I listed, the naked men 
are well-known, respected actors; I wonder if actresses with similar 
reputations would care to do nude scenes. (Interesting point: I don't think
any of the nudity occurred during a scene involving sex.)


John Purbrick
From: davewarr@mizar.usc.edu (Dave Warren)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nudist TV Segment
Date: 22 Dec 1992 14:17:29 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

>In the biagraphy of Jim Morrison, "The Doors", there was frontal male
nudity showing the penis several times, although they were brief shots.<

I don't know: I rented that Oliver Stone movie and didn't see anything more
than the standard male butt. However there is a book by Campfire Video (or
something similar) called the Guide to Male Nudity in the Movies, which not
only lists all modern actors and movies that have been seen in the buff, but
also categorizes the type of exposure (e.g., rear, frontal, suggested, etc.).
It's expensive but interesting to browse through!
From: dave@monitor.larc.nasa.gov (Dave A. Hinde)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nudist TV segment
Date: 22 Dec 1992 14:49:36 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: monitor.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1992Dec22.015544.23540@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
|> In <ll44502@pro-harold.cts.com> leed@pro-harold.cts.com (Lee Dronick) writes:
|> >ever seen is rear views. Cable stations such as HBO have shown frontal male
|> >nudity.
|> 
|> Wow....now I am curious...what movie did they show that has frontal male
|> nudity? Personally I have never seen this on HBO or in the movies that I can
|> remember. ..............................................

I believe there was a very quick, poorly lighted, view of Robin Williams in
Fisher King.  There have been other movies showing full frontal male nudity,
but I can't recall any titles.                                                
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From: leed@pro-harold.cts.com (Lee Dronick)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Oh My God Hot Springs/Well
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:55:34 GMT
Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication

I left an important detail out the location of Oh My God. It's in
Southern California near El Centro
-----
Lee Dronick
ProLine: leed@pro-harold
Internet: leed@pro-harold.cts.com
UUCP: crash!pro-harold!leed
From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nudist TV segment
Date: 22 Dec 1992 19:35:07 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
>Wow....now I am curious...what movie did they show that has frontal male
>nudity? ...
>personally don't understand the prohibition against male nudity....it seems to
>me that either you're against nudity all together or that you are for it all
>together...what's with the double standard? *perhaps I am naive :-)*

Perhaps.

Movie makers are predominantly male. Mystery solved.

-- 
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This week's usenet malapropism: its, it's
its = posessive pronoun; "My car blew its engine."
it's = contraction of 'it is'; "It's cold outside!"
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: films with full-frontal male nudity
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 05:25:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.015544.23540@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:

> Wow....now I am curious...what movie did they show that has frontal male
> nudity? Personally I have never seen this on HBO or in the movies that I can
> remember. I think I would remember if I can see it because I am always the one
> after a movie who complains that the woman was in umpteen trillon full frontal
> nude shots but that the men NEVER are...

   See the film _Prospero's Books_.  Then, if you understand it,
please explain it to me!

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Peace on Earth and good will towards all God's creatures!
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: Nudist TV segment
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:53:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.015544.23540@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:

>Wow....now I am curious...what movie did they show that has frontal male
>nudity? Personally I have never seen this on HBO or in the movies that I can
>remember. I think I would remember if I can see it because I am always the one
>after a movie who complains that the woman was in umpteen trillon full frontal
>nude shots but that the men NEVER are...

Admittedly female frontal nudity is much the more common, but there IS a
considerable body of film by now with male genitals visible.  (Two
books, The Bare Film Facts and The Film Buff Guide, also list these; the
latter is men only.)  Here are some.

Women in Love
Drive, He Said
Buster and Billie
The Player
Last Rites
Reckless
The Blue Lagoon
Paradise (Willie Aames)
In Praise of Older Women
American Gigolo
Breathless
Haunted Summer
Some Girls

but there are many many more.

>which seems to me to be very sexist,

Well, the movie industry IS a sexist business.  Is that a surprise to
anyone?  :-)

>not to mention what it says about the acceptability of the male body. I
>personally don't understand the prohibition against male nudity....it seems to
>me that either you're against nudity all together or that you are for it all
>together...what's with the double standard? *perhaps I am naive :-)*

In general, the male body is not prohibited, just not filmed.  Two
interlocking reasons: male producers who are more interested in getting
women to strip on film, and vain male actors who see their penises as
the mysterious symbol of their manliness and don't want to reveal that
they are only human in their dimensions.  And if they demur at required
nudity in the script (as they often do), the male producers will
understand how they feel, as they will not with women.  A sad, sexist
business.

Jon Alan Conrad
From: post@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (David Post)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 07:37:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Naked men in movies (re: Network Nudes)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.nude

"The Quiet Earth" - Non-sexual, from Australia

David Post  davep@hpfcpp.fc.hp.com
From: FORTMAPL@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nude and naked (was Re:
Date: 28 Dec 1992 14:57:01 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
>In article <stege-211292084402@kfp-pub4-mac.slac.stanford.edu> stege@slac.stanford.edu (Stege) writes:
>>"syn BARE, NAKED, NUDE, BALD, BARREN mean deprived of naturally or
>>Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary, published by Merriam-Webster, Inc.
> 
>With all due respect to Webster you can call me BARE, NAKED or NUDE but
>please don't call me BALD or BARREN.
 
You can call me BARE, NAKED, NUDE, or anything else, just don't call
me LATE FOR DINNER  8-)

*Pooh Bare

*Pooh Bare
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From: jps8@po.CWRU.Edu (James P. Schwonek)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Looking for a woman in NE Ohio.
Date: 23 Dec 1992 23:27:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jps8@po.CWRU.Edu (James P. Schwonek)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


Hello

Are you a woman who enjoys the lifestyle but is isolated in
the midwest?

I might be the guy for you.

Please contact me via email and let's take it all off.

Jim

-- 
James P. Schwonek                         "One lesson, Nature,
SGI Iris Administrator/Programmer          let me learn of thee."
CWRU School of Medicine                           --Matthew Arnold
jps8@po.cwru.edu root@dpbiris.phol.cwru.edu
From: midkiff@public.BTR.COM (Neil Midkiff  midkiff@public.btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nudity and nakedness
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:19:12 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

In article <> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>Do people here draw a distinction between nudity and nakedness?  It seems
>to me that nakedness is the simple state of not wearing clothes, which
>all people find themselves in from time to time, whereas nudity is
>actually a positive choice about how to dress.  So you're naked in the
>shower, but nude on the beach.  Comments anyone?

Not a bad distinction!  I also liked another poster's citation of Jesus's
injunction to "clothe the naked" (those *lacking* clothing) rather than
the nude (those not wanting clothing).

The English language uses "naked" in some senses not involving clothing,
to refer to vulnerability or lack of protection.  In financial markets,
selling "naked options" means offering to sell a stock you don't currently
own, as I understand it; you're gambling on being able to buy it cheaper in
the future, so you're vulnerable to price increases.

I once heard someone refer to a "naked beach" and thought that term should
be used for an unsheltered, wind-and-surf-whipped shoreline, subject to
erosion.  

I used these examples when the subject came up last year:

"The mugger stripped his victim and left her naked."
"The model dropped her robe and posed nude."

There's a minor counterexample in colloquial usage; I've heard "get naked"
and "party naked" used, often in the imperative, for the slightly more
raucous forms of recreational or social nudity.

-Neil
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: carruth@mksol.dseg.ti.com (matthew carruth)
Subject: Frontal nudity in films
Organization: internet
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:08:11 GMT

There is a reason for little frontal male nudity.  By definition, at least in the 
US, any showing of an erect penis is an "X" rating.  Since a man involved in a
sexual situation would be expected to have an erection, this produces a problem
for the film.  Therefore, men are never shown in such scenes in non-X rated
films.  

As an aside, I can only recall 2 movies where actual female genitalia were shown.
They were an "art" film where the actress involved was Ellen Barkin, and 
Sharon Stone in the recent big movie, I can't think of the name, with Michael
Douglas.  All other cases of female, non-X, frontal nudity showed only 
pubic hair, but nothing else.
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From: Pat O'Brien <naturist@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:59 PST
Subject: Happy NY from TNS
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1457200038:000:309
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!naturist    Dec 31 16:59:00 1992


Just a quick note to wish all who visit here a very Happy New Year from 
The Naturist Society and the Naturist Action Committee. Your assistance
and support are important and essential; we appreciate it as we continue
our quest for better access to clothing-optional recreation sites and
body acceptance.
Pat
From: Craig.Miller@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Craig Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: River Dippers, Sacramento's Free Beach Organization (PT 2)
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:56:59 GMT


 

                         NEWSLETTER EXCHANGE

 

    River Dippers offers newsletter exchange with other nude

recreation organizations throughout the country.  From time to time,

we publish news and information from newsletters received to keep our

members well informed about naturist interests.

 

    Organization wishing to become a part of this exchange are

encouraged to send us a request.

 

 

                          MEMBERS DIRECTORY

 

    Part of the joy of becoming a River Dippers member is meeting and

befriending like-minded people. We encourage these friendships, and to

that end we now offer a directory of members.

 

    Members are listed by first name(s), last name initial, city,

state, zip code, phone number, and interests.

 

    Inclusion in our Members Directory is strictly voluntary. Privacy

is highly respected and no member will be included who does not wish

to be. However, only members listed will be able to obtain a copy of

the directory (availability will be announced in our newsletter).

Additionally, all member information provided to River Dippers is

confidential; it will not be provided to any individuals,

organizations, companies, or media.

 

    ** Important **  Please do not pre-pay for this directory when

joining River Dippers.  Availability of the directory will be

announced in the newsletter.

 

 

                        JOINING RIVER DIPPERS

 

    You can join River Dippers FREE if you join or renew membership in

The Naturist Society (TNS) through us at $30 per year. With TNS

membership, you will receive a membership card, entry into national

organized events and regional gatherings, discounts on items and

publications from TNS's "Naturist Store," and a one-year subscription

to the quarterly magazine, Nude & Natural.

 

    If you choose not to join TNS, you can still become a River

Dippers member for the "nobody-does-it-cheaper-better" donation of $3

per year!

 

    River Dippers is a non-profit organization.  Ours is a labor of

love, on an all-volunteer basis.  The $3 donation doesn't fully cover

our out-of-pocket costs (for postage, newsletter reproduction, postal

box rental, guidesheets reproduction, exchange copies to other groups,

stationery, etc.), so if you are able to include an extra donation it

will be greatly appreciated.


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From: Craig.Miller@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Craig Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: River Dippers Membership Form
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:58:25 GMT


                    1993 RIVER DIPPERS MEMBERSHIP

 

Name(s)  ____________________________________________

 

Address  ____________________________________________

 

City     ____________________________________________

 

State    _____________      Zip         _____________

 

Phone:   _______________________________

 

May we include you in our Members Directory?  [  ] Yes   [  ] No

 

Interests:  _________________________________________________________

Membership Desired;

    River Dippers Only                          [   ] $ 3.00 per year

    River Dippers & The Naturist Society (TNS)  [   ] $30.00 per year

    ** Additional donations are appreciated! **

Please send me the 1992 Issues                  [   ] $ 3.00

                                          Total Enclosed:  $ _________

 

           TNS Membership Number (if renewing):  ______________________

 

                            OUR PRINCIPLES

 

    River Dippers believe in the wholesomeness of the human body, and

regard it as neither an object of shame nor a subject of degrading

exploitation.  Our natural state is without clothing; the choice to be

clothed or not should be the option of the individual.

    River Dippers act in a responsible manner above reproach in all

aspects of our chosen form of recreation -- accepting the

responsibility of maintaining the natural state of the environment we

use, enjoying our state of undress in such a way as to not infringe

upon the rights of others, educating others about the merits of

clothing-optional recreation, and avoiding non-constructive

confrontations with authorities or the public.

    River Dippers members come in all ages and backgrounds, and

conduct their activities for the mutual enjoyment and comfort of

everyone.

 

                     Liability Release Agreement

 

    I acknowledge that there are risks of personal injury associated

with hiking, camping, canuding, and other activities, whether of not

organized by River Dippers, and do hereby assume any and all risks for

any said personal injury I and/or my family may sustain while engaging

in said activities, and do hereby release and forever discharge River

Dippers, its officers, and members from any action, suits, damages,

claims, and/or judgments that may result from any and all personal

injuries I or my family may sustain while engaging in said activities,

or in going to or from said activities.  This release is binding upon

me, my heirs, and assigns.

 

Signed:                 ____________________________________

Applicant(s)

                        ____________________________________

 

Mail to: River Dippers, P.O. Box 60562, Sacramento, CA 95860


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From: ARCHER@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Subject: Re: Nudist TV segment
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:31:22 GMT

In article <ln41511@pro-harold.cts.com> leed@pro-harold.cts.com (Lee Dronick) writes:
>Path: utkux1.utk.edu!cs.utk.edu!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!agate!biosci!ucselx!crash!pro-harold!leed
>From: leed@pro-harold.cts.com (Lee Dronick)
>Newsgroups: rec.nude
>Subject: Re: Nudist TV segment
>Message-ID: <ln41511@pro-harold.cts.com>
>Date: 23 Dec 92 19:29:36 GMT
>References: <1992Dec22.170358.21069@cbnews.cb.att.com>
>Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication
>Lines: 12
>In-Reply-To: lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib)
>>From what I gather women seem to like seeing men's butts more than penises.
>This is just an informal observation, nothing scientific. If this is the
>case, the enterainment industry will cater to the women this way. Consider
>the response to Kevin Costner's butt scene in Danceing With Wolves, tis
>prompted a lot of conversation among my female friends and the anticipation
>of another scene in Robin Hood. However, I understand that they used a
>stunt butt in Robin Hood.

This is correct.  Costner, after falling into the stream for an entire day 
during the filming of the fight with Little John, flatly refused to enter 
the (EXTREMELY) cold scottish waterfall.  The water is COLD up there.
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