From: veal@utkvm1.utk.edu (David L. Veal)
Subject: Re: democratic platform
Keywords: From: decay@
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:03:32 GMT

In article <3696@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:

>In article <veal.128@utkvm1.utk.edu> veal@utkvm1.utk.edu (David L. Veal) writes:
>#In article <1992Jul24.082241.146532@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:

>##A woman who wants an abortion must call a clinic and schedule
>##an appointment.  I doubt that appointments are necessary to
>##buy guns.  
>#
>#     Generally not.  But would you accept a law which required that an 
>#appointment be made a certain number of days in advance?
>#
>#     That is essentially what a waiting period is...



>I wish that the people who think that a RKBA argument is 
>appropriate to talk.abortion would try to keep in mind
>that having an abortion and buying a gun are two very
>different events.

     Perhaps they are.  But both involve the exercise of a right,
and the infringements on those rights by the government.  Another
difference is that one right is *implied* (abortion coming under
the "right to privacy" as implied under the Ninth Amendment)
and the other is *explicit* (as the right to keep and bear arms under
the Second Amendment.)

>Some fool claimed that there was an analogy to be made
>between waiting periods for gun purchase and waiting
>periods for abortions.  Others have cited "impulse
>purchases" and "impulse abortions" as reasons to justify
>both.

>This is, as I tried to point out in short form above, absurd.
>I will spell it out for those who didn't get the point.

>If there were no waiting periods for gun purchases or abortions
>in PA (and there are both), a given woman could wake up
>one morning, decide she wanted a gun, and go buy one.  This
>same woman could not wake up one morning, decide that she
>wanted to have an abortion, and go have one.  Abortions are
>performed in clinics, not stores.  It would be necessary to
>make an appointment first.  No clinic in Pittsburgh performs
>abortions more than three days a week, all the gun shops that
>I am aware of are open for business at least six days a week.
>There is no such thing as an "impulse abortion."

     So you would be in favor of a waiting period on abortion *if*
it *were possible* to have an "impulse abortion?"

     I fail to see how any of this justifies government intervention.

     Either abortion is a right, or it isn't.  How does the number
of days it is available make any difference?

     And if there *is* no such thing as an impules abortion, and women
have to wait *anyway*, then what possible objection could you have to
a waiting period?

>Susan


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