HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp,vmsnet.mail.pmdf,vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.cmu-tek,vmsnet.tpu,vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Re: SVR4 TLI TCP/UDP address binding
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:47:30 GMT
Reply-To: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: tp


Sorry about that. That was a usenet news article posted to a bogus newsgroup
("world"), and it slipped through the gateway. The problem should be fixed now.
--
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(uucp: ...!rutgers!depot!mccall!tp)          615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in KS (913)776-4041           Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
(Gateway operator)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: uustat -m doesn't work in 2.0?
From: fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Date: 25 Jul 92 10:51:11 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Penn State University

After upgrading to version 2.0, I find that "uustat -m" does not work.
I reran uucp_bin:uucp_systartup.com on every cluster node.

I can still run uucp_bin:uusnap.exe and get the machine status, so the
status is being kept, uustat just doesn't seem to find it.

"uustat -q" also provides no output, although "uustat -a" and my UUQ.COM
both show jobs queued.  Or is the "-q" option supposed to tell about
jobs waiting for UUXQT?

It would be nice to have a "No jobs queued." message, or something, instead
of just having it exit with no output, if this is the case.

  Bill
--
Bill Fenner	fenner@jazz.psu.edu	..psuvax1!hogbbs!wcfpc!wcf
		wcf@hogbbs.scol.pa.us   (+1 814 238-9633 v.32bis)
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: Where is 2.0 located on UUNET ? (answer)
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:22:29 GMT
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Jul20.085359.50@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil>, roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:
> 
> 	Where is 2.0 located on uunet assuming you have finished the upload ?

Yes, it is finished! 

It is in ~/systems/vms/uucp.  Fetch the file aaareadme.txt and read it to get
instructions on the rest of it.  e.g., on a VMS machine running DECUS uucp
*prior to 2.0*, start with

	$ uucp "uunet!~/systems/vms/uucp/aaareadme.txt" aaareadme.txt

Let me know if you have problems with the download or restore.  

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
uucp 'g' protocol guru, VMSnet (DECUS uucp) Working Group, and
Chair, VMS Programming and Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VAX Systems SIG 
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: ???
From: "Bill Pedersen, KPY Corp" <pedersen@kpy.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:47:58 PDT
Reply-To: synful+vmsnet@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Return-Path: <synful+vmsnet-errors@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
CC: pedersen@kpy.com
Errors-To: synful+vmsnet-errors@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU

>>>   Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:29:17 PST
>>>   From: "Joe Carvalho -- (714)921-7528" <carvalho@mtechca.maintech.com>
>>>   To: synful+vmsnet@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
>>>   Errors-To: synful+vmsnet-errors@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
>>>   Reply-To: synful+vmsnet@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
>>>   Message-ID: <0095E57B5F8CF860.202016A9@mtechca.maintech.com>
>>>   X-Vms-Mail-To: UUCP%"njin!drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu!synful+vmsnet"
>>>
>>>   UNSUBSCRIBE
>>>   ThanX and goodbye!

Maybe you want to send this to the vmsnet_manager or whatever its called
as it looks like you went to the world.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: NEWS / DECUS UUCP Integration
From: fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:04:56 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Penn State University

I had a difficult time upgrading to DECUS UUCP 2.0 .  My ANU/NEWS installation
dates from well before I installed UUCP (1.2, at the time).  We get all of our
news via NNTP, and have a very, very customized NEWS setup (for example,
we add news in parallel on several cluster members at once).

Therefore, I was quite surprised when UUCP claimed that it wanted to move
my news_manager directory, or things wouldn't work correctly.  In fact,
when I told GENERATE_CONFIG not to move the news directory, it refused to
create a new CONTROL. file.

This is the kind of behavior that makes it really easy for people who don't
have a clue, but quite difficult for people who know what they're doing and
happen to do it differently.  I'm willing to modify NEWS_RNEWS.COM for my
setup.  I'm not willing to modify my NEWS setup to satisfy UUCP.

I also find it annoying that the NEWS executables were placed in UUCP_BIN:
for me.  I already have NEWS installed, now I have to go through UUCP_BIN: and
remove all the NEWS files individually from there.

Please, folks, for the next release, try to consider the person who wants
his NEWS seperate from his UUCP.  I must congratulate you on your attempts
to make it easy for the new installer.  It's great to have a set of programs
which will just work out of the box.  However, for existing installations
which have no reason to change (and may have a reason to not change), all
you did was make it difficult.

  Bill
--
Bill Fenner	fenner@jazz.psu.edu	..psuvax1!hogbbs!wcfpc!wcf
		wcf@hogbbs.scol.pa.us   (+1 814 238-9633 v.32bis)
From: fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: NEWS / DECUS UUCP Integration
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:31:18 GMT
Organization: Penn State University Mechanical Engineering

In article <1992Jul25.111736.598@cmkrnl.com> jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
|These, together
|with the placement of news_manager on other-than-the-uucp-disk, make it
|impossible to get into a disk space deadlock situation which could previously
|occur.  

Is the requirement "news_manager on news_device disk" or is it
"news_manager on other-than-the-uucp-disk"?  If the latter, then my setup
is perfectly acceptable as it is; UUCP is on DSKJ:, news_manager is on
DSKM:, news_device is DSKN:.  (I _was_ thinking of moving UUCP to DSKM:,
maybe UUCP was just intuiting my intention and trying to save me from
trouble in the future :-)

Anyway, if the requirement is simply that news_manager not be on the UUCP
disk, may I suggest that GENERATE_CONTROL check for _that_, and not that
news_manager be required to be on the news_device disk?

I have read the "Why put news_manager: on the item device" portion of the
documentation, and "news_manager: on the item device" and "news_manager:
off the UUCP disk" are used interchangably in the document.  This doesn't
make it all that clear, but I didn't see any actual arguments in there for
news_manager: to be necessarily on the item device; just on a device with
the ability to have huge fluctuations in disk usage.  How about an empty
RA81?  That's what my DSKM: is; nothing but NEWS_MANAGER and the indexed
files on it.

  Bill
--
Bill Fenner	fenner@jazz.psu.edu	..psuvax1!hogbbs!wcfpc!wcf
		wcf@hogbbs.scol.pa.us   (+1 814 238-9633 v.32bis)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: HOW to get decus uucp (last time... really!)
From: sunshine@pegasus.ch (Sunshine, Sysop of PEGASUS)
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:30:41 +0200
Organization: Pegasus BBS, Switzerland

In message <1992Jul29.180029.18500@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, 
waelder@navaho.uucp (25612-waelder) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul28.100230.676@fps.mcw.edu>, brodie@fps.mcw.edu writes:
> > 2) using FTP via the INTERNET.   DECUS UUCP (V2.0) is available via anonymo
> us
> >    ftp from the following sites:
> >
> > 	ftp.spc.edu		directory [.decus_uucp]
> > 		(maintained by terry@spcvxa.spc.edu)
[...]
> 
> I don't mind using anonymous ftp, but my system does not have
> these or any other "outside" nodes defined. I have a VAX with
> UCX and I need the numerical addresses for any access.

You may use a public name server availble over telnet, like nic.switch.ch
(130.59.1.40) and login with "lookup"  (no password required). This simple
service allows you to translate names to the numerical addresses.

-- Example --

---------------------------
SWITCH   The Swiss Academic
         & Research Network
---------------------------


SunOS UNIX (nic.switch.ch)

login: lookup

SWITCH Internet Domain Name Service

Enter the full domain name or HELP: ftp.spc.edu

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    spcvxa.spc.edu
Address:  192.107.46.27
Aliases:  ftp.spc.edu


Enter the next domain name or <RETURN> to exit: help

   This service allows you to specify a full domain name
            e.g. host.domain.topleveldomain
   and it will return either the corresponding IP address
   or an error message (e.g. if there is no information
   available about the name specified in the query)

   ======================================================

   This service is provided as is. However you can send a
   problem report concerning this service to:
   SWITCH Geschaeftsstelle, ETH-Zentrum, CH-8092 Zurich

   <hostmaster@nic.switch.ch>   Tel: +41-1-256'5454
                                Fax: +41-1-261'8133


Enter the full domain name or HELP:

-- End of example --

Greetings, Martin Winter

   -------------------------------------------------------------------
  |  Sunshine@pegasus.ch         |  It seems that we can't convience  |
  |  Sysop of PEGASUS BBS        |  the human  race to survive,  but  |
  |  BBS Phone: +41-71-71 55 77  |  how can  we ask them  to NOT tug  |
  |      X.25:  +228 475212574   |  the nature with them into dead ?  |
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: NEWS / DECUS UUCP Integration
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Date: 25 Jul 92 11:17:36 PDT
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Jul25.064835.3402@spcvxb.spc.edu>, terry@spcvxb.spc.edu 
(Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes:
>   When we upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3, things went quite smoothly. When I looked
> at the 1.3 to 2.0 upgrade and found that it wanted to rearrange the way the
> disk layout is done, I just went "Gak!" and put it aside. We've carefully
> tuned UUCP and News, consuming 2 RA90's and an RA81, using two CPU's (an 8650
> and a 785), balancing I/O by HSC requestor, etc. This has made a _huge_ differ-
> ence - skims that used to take 10 hours now complete in 3. We've even tried
> 256Mb external RAM disks for the item, group, and history files.
> 
>   I appreciate that you want new installations to be more logical. However,
> please don't make me discard my extensive tuning efforts. 

Sigh.  The ONLY layout change 2.0 wants to make is to move the news_manager
tree onto the same disk with news_device (which is where the .ITM files live).
(news_root (home of the item, group, and history files) stays wherever you want
it to be.)  

Skim performance is affected only by the relative position of the item files
vs. the large indexed files and will NOT be affected by the movement of 
news_manager.  

There used to be performance reasons to put news_manager elsewhere than on the
news item files disk. These reasons do not apply to 2.0, thanks again to
extensive work done by Mark, a lot of it inside News.  I think you will find
that if you go to 2.0, with News 6.1A4 (where Mark reworked a lot of the
add-batch and item-forwarding code to make it more efficient), you'll find a
significant performance improvement. 

I appreciate that you have spent lots of time tuning previous versions via
placement of disk files.  However, you will recognize that the best way to do
tuning of RMS applications is inside the application code.  This has been done
(by Mark) in News 6.1A4 and in the news support code that comes with uucp 2.0.
Reducing the number of file opens, accesses, and closes makes a LOT more 
difference than anything you can do  by rearranging the files among your disks
and controllers. 

A site such as yours that feeds several downstream sites will also benefit from
the flow control mechanisms that Mark put into uucico 2.0.  These, together
with the placement of news_manager on other-than-the-uucp-disk, make it
impossible to get into a disk space deadlock situation which could previously
occur.  

Try it, you'll like it! 

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
uucp 'g' protocol guru and release coordinator, VMWnet Working Group, and
Chair, VMS Programming and Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VAX Systems SIG 
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
From: fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: uustat -m doesn't work in 2.0?
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:26:45 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

After upgrading to version 2.0, I find that "uustat -m" does not work.
I reran uucp_bin:uucp_systartup.com on every cluster node.

I can still run uucp_bin:uusnap.exe and get the machine status, so the
status is being kept, uustat just doesn't seem to find it.

"uustat -q" also provides no output, although "uustat -a" and my UUQ.COM
both show jobs queued.  Or is the "-q" option supposed to tell about
jobs waiting for UUXQT?

It would be nice to have a "No jobs queued." message, or something, instead
of just having it exit with no output, if this is the case.

  Bill
--
Bill Fenner	fenner@jazz.psu.edu	..psuvax1!hogbbs!wcfpc!wcf
		wcf@hogbbs.scol.pa.us   (+1 814 238-9633 v.32bis)
From: carvalho@mtechca.maintech.com (Joe Carvalho -- (714)921-7528)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: <None>
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:29:17 GMT
Reply-To: synful+vmsnet@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Return-Path: <synful+vmsnet-errors@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
Errors-To: synful+vmsnet-errors@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
X-Vms-Mail-To: UUCP%"njin!drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu!synful+vmsnet"

UNSUBSCRIBE
ThanX and goodbye!
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: MAIL documentation
From: shuford@cs.utk.edu
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:42:07 -0400
Reply-To: synful+vmsnet@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville--Dept. of Computer Science
Errors-To: synful+vmsnet-errors@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU

Begging your pardon, but I didn't really mean to post the whole
"foreigners" corpus to the world.  I was trying to reply to the man
with the question, but the "reply" command picked up the e-mail
address of the VMSnet mailing list instead of his individual address.



-- 
 ....Richard S. Shuford  | "If a man loudly blesses his neighbor early
 ....shuford@cs.utk.edu  |  in the morning, it will be taken as a curse."
 ....BIX: richard        |  Proverbs 27:14  NIV
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: logical name and list enhancements to uucp/mx mail delivery
From: "Bill Pedersen, KPY Corp" <pedersen@kpy.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:47:44 PST
Reply-To: synful+vmsnet@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Return-Path: <synful+vmsnet-errors@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
Errors-To: synful+vmsnet-errors@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
X-Vms-Mail-To: VMSNET
X-Vms-Mail-Cc: PEDERSEN

We have made changes to:

	uucp_bin:uuxqt_dcl.com

to support logical names under MX, who's RMAIL does not support logical
names and also to support name lists in logicals.   This facilitates
alias administration for names common to VMS MAIL as well as UUCP
delivered mail.

If anyone is interested I can mail the new command procedure or the
revised section at the DO_RMAIL: label to them.

_______________________________________________________________________
Bill Pedersen
KPY Corporation,  1037 North Fair Oaks Avneue, Sunnyvale, CA 94089-2101
1-800-458-8930		FAX:1-408-734-2940
 Software Consulting and Computer Service in Heterogenous Environments.
From: mark@infocomm.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: UUCP 2.0 New Features?
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:32:44 PDT
Organization: INFO COMM - Computer Consulting, Redwood City, Ca

In article <1992Jul23.180505.26985@cs.tulane.edu>, mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu (Jeff E Mandel) writes:
> Is there a concise list of new features in 2.0? Mind you, I love installing new
> software, and really don't have to have a reason other than "it's new", but as
> I finally have uucp working the way I want it, and I know it will stop working
> when I go to improve it, I just want to know to what end I'm disrupting my
> tranquil world.

Get the distribution and read the document.  There is a section on NEW 
FEATURES which covers most of the details.

One of the new features is that the upgrade should be painless.  If you have
trouble I want to know details so this situation can be avoided later.

If you've found that you've had to do various things to "get uucp working the
way you want it", AND the new software does not meet all of your needs, I also
want to know this.

Please give it a try and let us know.

--
Mark Pizzolato - INFO COMM Computer Consulting, Redwood City, Ca
PHONE:	(415)369-9366	UUCP:  decwrl!infopiz!mark or uunet!lupine!infopiz!mark
DOMAIN:	mark@infocomm.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
From: Jeff E Mandel <mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu>
Subject: UUCP 2.0 New Features?
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-3696]: mandel.anes.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University School of Medicine
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:05:05 GMT

Is there a concise list of new features in 2.0? Mind you, I love installing new
software, and really don't have to have a reason other than "it's new", but as
I finally have uucp working the way I want it, and I know it will stop working
when I go to improve it, I just want to know to what end I'm disrupting my
tranquil world.

Jeff E Mandel MD MS
Associate Professor of Anesthesiology
Tulane University School of Medicine
New Orleans, LA

mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu
From: ake@dayton.saic.com (Earle Ake)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: UUNET Download (How?)
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:04:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Science Applications Intl. Corp., Dayton, Ohio

In article <1992Jul22.085056.727@sjh.org>, vaughan@sjh.org (Tom Vaughan) writes:
> In article <1992Jul20.212229.589@cmkrnl.com>, jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
>> In article <1992Jul20.085359.50@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil>, roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:
>>> 
>>> 	Where is 2.0 located on uunet assuming you have finished the upload ?
>> 
>> Yes, it is finished! 
>> 
>> It is in ~/systems/vms/uucp.  Fetch the file aaareadme.txt and read it to get
>> instructions on the rest of it.  e.g., on a VMS machine running DECUS uucp
>> *prior to 2.0*, start with
>> 
>> 	$ uucp "uunet!~/systems/vms/uucp/aaareadme.txt" aaareadme.txt
>> 
> -- 
> Okay, now what does it take to connect to uunet to down load these things?
> I thought an account with them was needed.

	You use the uucp command Jamie gave you.  If it is not defined, then
$ uucp :== $uucp_bin:uucp

If you don't have UUCP then just put a file that looks like:

R /systems/vms/uucp/aaareadme.txt ~/aaareadme.txt vaughan@sjh.org -dCm

into your uucp_spool directory and call it c.uunet_g12345


Also one point, to get this to attempt a transfer, I had to use:

$ uucp -m -r -j "uunet!~/systems/vms/uucp/aaareadme.txt" ~/aaareadme.txt

I had it queue the request, notify me when it was done, and report the queue
number.


Earle
_____________________________________________________________________________
             ____ ____    ___
Earle Ake   /___ /___/ / /     Science Applications International Corporation
           ____//   / / /__                 Dayton, Ohio
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internet: ake@dayton.saic.com  uucp: dayvb!ake  NSI-DECnet (SPAN): 28284::ake
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: NEWS / DECUS UUCP Integration
Date: 25 Jul 92 10:48:35 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Jul24.130543.597@cmkrnl.com>, jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
> The point of all of this explanation is not to browbeat you into agreement, but
> to demonstrate that we did not make these decisions arbitrarily -- we had
> reasons.  If you have compelling reasons for other arrangements, let us know;
> we promise at least to listen. 

  Well, here at SPC (and at many other places, I'm sure) UUCP and News are not
part of the "official services". They just sort of exist. Anything that makes
me take more time to deal with them is likely to either make me not install
the update, or to just not want to deal with it at all.

  I have 1 site that I feed who wants the new packet/window stuff, and I doubt
he can make use of it anyway, since he says his negotiation code (in Coherent)
is broken. All the other sites I feed use Telebits and can't use the extended
stuff anyway. Thus, I've got no pressing reason to go to 2.0.

  When we upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3, things went quite smoothly. When I looked
at the 1.3 to 2.0 upgrade and found that it wanted to rearrange the way the
disk layout is done, I just went "Gak!" and put it aside. We've carefully
tuned UUCP and News, consuming 2 RA90's and an RA81, using two CPU's (an 8650
and a 785), balancing I/O by HSC requestor, etc. This has made a _huge_ differ-
ence - skims that used to take 10 hours now complete in 3. We've even tried
256Mb external RAM disks for the item, group, and history files.

  I appreciate that you want new installations to be more logical. However,
please don't make me discard my extensive tuning efforts. Perhaps the next
release could determine if it's an upgrade or a new installation and accept
both layouts?

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
From: mcmahon@tgv.com (John 'Fast-Eddie/FuzzFace' McMahon)
Subject: UUCP over IP - Status ?
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: mcmahon@tgv.com
Organization: TGV Incorporated (Tech Support) in Santa Cruz, CA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:23:07 GMT



Some time ago (at DECUS) I was told that people were working on 
DECUS UUCP over an IP channel.  Any status on that ?

Please reply to me, as I do not read this newsgroup at the moment.

--
John 'Fast-Eddie' McMahon    ()
TGV, Incorporated            () "Any networking problem can be solved by
603 Mission Street           ()  the application of 33 miles of Unshielded 
Santa Cruz, California 95060 ()  Twisted Pair (UTP)"   
408-427-4366 or 800-TGV-3440 ()                      [InterOp Spring 1992]
E-Mail: MCMAHON@TGV.COM      ()
From: vaughan@sjh.org (Tom Vaughan)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: UUNET Download (How?)
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:50:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: St. Joseph Hospital, Cheektowaga, N.Y.

In article <1992Jul20.212229.589@cmkrnl.com>, jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
> In article <1992Jul20.085359.50@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil>, roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:
>> 
>> 	Where is 2.0 located on uunet assuming you have finished the upload ?
> 
> Yes, it is finished! 
> 
> It is in ~/systems/vms/uucp.  Fetch the file aaareadme.txt and read it to get
> instructions on the rest of it.  e.g., on a VMS machine running DECUS uucp
> *prior to 2.0*, start with
> 
> 	$ uucp "uunet!~/systems/vms/uucp/aaareadme.txt" aaareadme.txt
> 
-- 
Okay, now what does it take to connect to uunet to down load these things?
I thought an account with them was needed.

Tom


-- 
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