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From: atjidxc@state.systems.sa.gov.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Soundcard etc. recommandation wanted
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:25:55 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Organization: State Systems, South Australia

In article <1992Sep27.002516.6032@delos.stgt.sub.org>, stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold) writes:
> Hi !
> I'm planning to buy the notation software finale and want to
> use a midi-keyboard with finale.
> 
> Is it a good choice to take a master-keyboard and a soundcard
> or would it be better to take a synthesizer and only a midi-
> interface ?
> 
> What soundcard would you recommand for my purpose (not playing games,
> but making music) ?
> 
> Thank you for any responds,
> Stefan
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ow the SC-55 is not a sound card as such but offers greater flexibility
in that it can be connected to a music keyboard independantly of the PC
and can also be connected to the Roland Sound Brush - essentially a 
device for playing standard MIDI files via floppy disk - in a CD style 
manner - ie tracks, programmed tracks etc.

The Roland SC-55 is also available in a PC card format although I'm not
sure of the name of it. The advantage of the Roland products is that they
all comply with the GS standard (albeit the standard developed by Roland)

This means that all instruments, patches etc will work without modification
on any GS compatible device.

In summary, if you are looking for professional quality MIDI audio, you
could do a lot worse that the Roland products.

ps: In Australia, the SC-55 costs approx $1100.00 which is significantly
    higher than the Sound Blaster (about $199.00) but is really worth it.

Regards...dc
 
David Crawford
JIS 
Adelaide South Australia

E-MAIL : crawford.david@statemail.sa.gov.au
  or   : atjidxc@state.systems.sa.gov.au
From: cb062@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ira C. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: New mod
Date: 4 Oct 1992 20:22:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  Hey,

      I just tried my hand at writing my own mod and I want to
know what everyone thinks. Its called groove.zip and I just 
uploaded it to wuarchive.wustl.edu. I would like an honest
opinion, but something more than "this stinks.." *:^). Remember
this is my first attempt.

Comment: It works ok on WinMod pro and WOWII, but Trakblaster
Pro seems to not like it, at least on my machine. It may be the 
editor I used. I used Whacker Tracker. WinMod supports stereo
which really sounds nice, but it doesnt seem to catche some
fadeouts I put here and there.

   While Im at it, does anyone know of a site where one can get
mod samples. I can extract them from mods but that can be time 
consuming after a while. I think it would nice to have dir. that
separate mod samples by drums, chords, voice samples, etc.. for
easy access.

   thanks,
         -Chris
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From: pv9955@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: Re: PAS-16 - Best deal in Madison
Reply-To: pv9955@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 03:18:26 GMT

PC Prices just keep on FALLING!!!!!
I just called Computability the other day, and the PAS 16 price dropped
to $195 since the ad was printed.
The MIDI Mate costs about $50.
I was about to place me order, but then I remembered that there is a
computer fair coming to my town (Albany, NY) in two weeks, so I would wait
and compare prices.
Also, has anybody heard anything else about the SB Pro 16 ?

Peter
From: jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS-16 and OS/2
Date: 4 Oct 1992 14:31:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


This may be an FAQ, but I can't find the list to check...

Has MediaVision released drivers/software for the PAS-16 for OS/2 2.0?

Thanks,
John
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From: russell@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (Russell Sparkes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: STEREO in SB Pro? (HELP)
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:52:53 GMT
Organization: BHP, Newcastle, Australia

sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:

>Does anyone have any useful info on how to achieve Stereo affects
>on the SoundBlaster Pro.  C, Pascal, but preferable Assembler, would
>be my choice of language.  Any hints, or demos with source, Especially
>outputting digitized voices in stereo.  
>						wReam...
>					     Ultimate Ninja!
>					     SL859@cc.usu.edu
>P.S.  These are probably trade secrets, huh?  But I really wouldn't 
>protest if you could help!  :)

In Australia, you can get the Sound Blaster Developers Kit for about
$(AUS)100 Which gives you a huge manual and a whole heap of libraries of
routines for doing heaps of stuff with all sorts of SB card. 
There's a whole heap of SBPro stuff including panning, fading etc etc...
  Of course that's only any use to you if you want to spend the money :-)

  russell.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: scotts@cpqhou.compaq.com (Scott Shaffer @ Compaq Computer Corp.)
Subject: Re: Compaq Business Audio System
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 19:31:34 GMT

in article <1992Sep30.212620.1874@trl.oz.au>, wallace@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Glenn Wallace) says:
> 
> If anyone has experience with the Business Audio System found in the
> Compaq Deskpro 50/M (good or bad) can you mail me about it?
> 
> i.e. are there good Win 3.1 drivers for it? Is it low noise? How would
> it compare to a SB Pro?

Well, I happen to think the system is pretty good (but then I'm biased :-).

It is simply a WAV audio playback system built-in to the machine.  You get
support for audio under Windows 3.1 only (at this point).  It does not
contain FM synthesis or a DSP and thus is not SBlaster or Adlib compatible
(at this point).  

I have both an SBPro and Business Audio and I think that the Business Audio
system is *much* cleaner in terms of audio playback and recording.  Too bad
BA didn't come on my Deskpro 486/50L ;-).  

But the best way to judge it is to drop by your local authorized Compaq
reseller and hear it for yourself.  The 50M is a great machine, with QVision
graphics (the fastest graphics adapter for Windows on the market today)
and what seems like unlimited upgradability (you can go to DX2-66 now, with
more to come!!!).

Hope this help!
Scott
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: 2nd Request:  Info on Gravis Ultrasound (Me Too)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:35:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.191349.1007@nmt.edu>, ehobbs@nmt.edu (Eric Hobbs) writes:
> 
> I here lots of people talking about the GUS, but even though I asked before,
> nobody has given me any specs (including price) on it.
> 
> As before, any info will be appreciated.

Same here (especially PRICE).

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From: colleyck@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Buckweat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Is the Gravis Ultrasound's MIDI MPU-401 compat?
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:17:14 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

I guess the title says it all... I need to  find a soundcard with 
MPU-401 compatibility. Also, does anyone know if I could sync to 
tape with any of the soundcards (hopefully with a MPU-401 compat).

Thanks in advance for any information.

colleyck@ucunix.san.uc.edu

P.S.  This is a GREAT Newsgroup!!!!
From: gridlock@cats.ucsc.edu (Will Gridweed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Sorry about the uuencodes
Date: 29 Sep 1992 22:55:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:

>As for descriptions, I have no idea, I got the stuff a while ago and it
>said source code, I looked at it (and not being a programmer) thought
>"wow, I'll give it to my programmer friend" and just held onto the files anyway.
>Someone who uudecoded it and knows what to do with it please post here with
>what it's all about.

	One of those was source for a .mod player, something some freinds
of mine have been looking for for months. Thanks!

>Again, sorry.

	Heh, no problem   :-)

-Will
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: wallace@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Glenn Wallace)
Subject: Compaq Business Audio System
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:26:20 GMT

If anyone has experience with the Business Audio System found in the
Compaq Deskpro 50/M (good or bad) can you mail me about it?

i.e. are there good Win 3.1 drivers for it? Is it low noise? How would
it compare to a SB Pro?

Thanks,

Replys will be summarised and posted.

Glenn

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: dmatic@athena.mit.edu (Davor Matic)
Subject: Keyboard suggestions?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:07:16 GMT


Hi!

I'm looking to buy a dumb keyboard, that is one that has only MIDI
interfaces on it, but no synthesizer.  Do such toys exist at all? 
If so, what is the price range?  Who makes/sells then?  Any info 
is greatly apprechiated.  Thanks!

			dmatic@athena.mit.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: g89s9112@hippo.ru.ac.za (Dirk Sturzebecher)
Subject: HELP, adlib programming/compatibility
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:29:39 GMT

Hi all,
if asked this before, but got no reply. Surely someone out there must
know !!!

What is meant if they say a card is adlib compatible ???
What does that mean to the programmer ? Some sort of standard interface
I do assume. If so, where can I get the spec's ???

Cheers, Dirk

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From: mfrazer@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Arrrggghhhh Mine Eyes
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:42:09 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

OK Why are people posting gobs and gobs of uuencoded stuff to the
newsgroup.

And no descriptions of the stuff either, I mean really!

If someone wants this stuff mail it to them

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From: reimert@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Internal CD Audio in cable to connect PAS-16 and NEC 84?
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:42:55 GMT
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA

In article <1+qzn6d@rpi.edu> moncrg@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Gregory Donald Moncreaff) writes:
>can anyone tell me where such a cable can be obtained?
>
>the nec didn't come with such a cable, and the pas-16 box
>that my local dealer opened for me didn't contain such a 
>cable either...
>
>thanks,
>g

If you look at the docs that came with the PAS-16, you can make one
yourself for a buck. There is a picture and description of the connector
on one of the pages in the install section. Go to Fry's (or wherever)
and get the parts and make it yourself -- for a buck.

	Scott

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: shephard@fraser.sfu.ca (Gordon Shephard)
Subject: GRAVIS ULTRASOUND-At Vancouver BC, (14:00 PST), Oct 6, 1992
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:55:36 GMT

Just got off the phone

The Gravis Ultrasound is at Software Alley, Vancouver, BC.
Price: $169.95 (C$ - Approx .8 US$ = 1 C$)

Just arrived, and I was told to get there fast, as they're
"Moving really Good."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ipayne@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Ian Payne)
Subject: HELP! adlib and MS-Windows 3.1
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:51:30 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

I'm trying to use an Adlib board with Windows 3.1.  I know that the
driver shipped with Windows doesn't work, so I FTP'd the new one down
but when I try to unzip it, PKUNZIP tells me it's corrupt.

Has anyone else had this problem? Has anyone made this trick work?
Thanx in advance for any help.
From: echuang@cco.caltech.edu (Ernest Y. Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Date: 6 Oct 1992 18:32:54 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

In article <2362.22.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter)  writes:
>From what I am reading, the Gravis Ultrasound is like a Sound Blaster
>Stereo Sound Card, but if you want the SCSI interface (is it true SCSI
>or like the SB's) you have to buy an add-on board, if you want 16 bit,
>you have to buy an add-on board.  If this is the case, give me a break,
>I will stick to me PAS 16.  For the price, it does the job plus more.

There have been a quite a few posts in the past that have stated 
(paraphrasing), "<Soundcard X> already has 16-bit sound; That's already
CD-quality sound, so how can you get much better than that?"

The point is that sampled sounds, especially recorded at 16-bits, 
take up too much disk space for any reasonably long piece of music.
(I'd hate to see the size of Wing Commander III if they were to
record all of the background music in 16-bit samples -- unless, of
course, it's on CD-ROM.)

Unless the music consists of a very short tune played over and over
and over, most games will still rely on synthesis (OPL-3 or whatever)
to produce the background music.  So if a soundcard can come up with
a method of producing higher quality (non-digitized) sound, then most
game will sound better using it.

The reason (or at least one of the reasons) that the Gravis has 
generated a lot of interest is that it seems to offer something 
better than the OPL-3 that is being used in the PAS-16  & SB (version?).
To find out whether the Gravis's sound actually lives up to its
hype, we'll have to wait until it finally reaches the masses :-).

- Ernest
  echuang@cco.caltech.edu
From: jthjr@jthjr.austin.ibm.com (John Hollaway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS-16 SCSI disk driver
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:15:35 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

Could somebody please send me (uuencoded mail) the drivers for using the PAS-16 to control a SCSI disk?  I believe the file is "TSCSI.SYS".  I would like to try it on a disk I have...

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From: tswanson@mrsvax.mis.arizona.edu (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Ultrasound support/Accolade
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:29:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Just got a flyer from Accolade on Star Control II (due out this week I
think) and it specifically mentioned supporting the Ultrasound, which I
took as a good sign.  Says the game takes full advantage of "CD quality
sound" (the quotes are their's).  I think they are saying that the game has
a digital soundtrack for both music and effects.

Has anyone seen any other games that specifically mention Ultrasound
support besides that Chuck Yeager thing?

Anyone know if the damn thing has shipped ;)

Later,
Ted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: asimard@emr1.emr.ca (Andre Simard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Need Adlib driver for Win 3.1
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:13:00 GMT
Organization: MPS, Energy Mines & Resources, Canada

In article <1992Sep27.010738.14427@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan) writes:
>From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
>Subject: Need Adlib driver for Win 3.1
>Date: 27 Sep 92 01:07:38 GMT
>
>I'm using the beta of the new version of OS/2.  This version includes
>Windows 3.1 support, but unfortunately IBM didn't release all of the
>sound drivers.  Specifically, the "vadlibd.386" file required for 
>the Adlib driver is missing.  If someone could drop me a note telling
>me where I could get this file, I'd appreciate it.
>
>--Tony
>quan@cs.stanford.edu

Me too!
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From: BBOYLE@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS-16 and Voyetra's MusiClips
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:25:50 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo

This is my first time in asking a question here so thanks in advance for
your patience.   Here goes........
 
Has anyone used Voyetra's MusiClips on a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 soundcard?
 
I have a Gateway 486/33. Before I upgraded to the 16 card, I had the
original PAS 8 bit card. Voyetra's Jukebox played the MIDI clips with
no problem. Since installing the new card --NOTHING-- no sound at all.
What's puzzling is that everything else sounds fine. I get excellent
sound from Falcon 3.0, Microsoft Flight Simulator, and all of the Sierra
games I have.
 
Also, while I'm at it, has anyone had experience using a product called
MONOLOGUE by First Byte. This is the speech synthysizer that comes with
the PAS-16 card. I can't get it to stop displaying a text file as it
speaks it. It's frustrating...The manual is not very helpful.
 
Thank you all in advance for any help you can offer.....
From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
Subject: Need Adlib driver for Win 3.1
Originator: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:07:38 GMT


I'm using the beta of the new version of OS/2.  This version includes
Windows 3.1 support, but unfortunately IBM didn't release all of the
sound drivers.  Specifically, the "vadlibd.386" file required for 
the Adlib driver is missing.  If someone could drop me a note telling
me where I could get this file, I'd appreciate it.

--Tony
quan@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: gonzaled@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (LGV/MC)
Subject: Looking for a few good .MODs ...
Keywords: MOD files
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:07:38 GMT

If you've heard some or all of these MOD files...
Approach		Sahara
Galaxy2			Sea of Love
Masquerade		Space Debris
Outrun			Thesmophoria
Phantasmagoria		Top Secret

...and you like this type, I would be VERY interested in downloading
others with similar style or from the same authors (especially Moby,
Sebastian Rice).

Of course, I'd like to have everything off of ftp.brad.ac.uk, but
there are just too many for me to download.

Thanks for your time and any assistance you can provide in my "quest."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: Gravis is HERE!!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:44:47 GMT

In article <IenVQ6i00WBMA3bqx_@andrew.cmu.edu> jl6p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Josh S Linder) writes:
>What exactly is so wonderful about the Gravis card?  My PAS/16 is a
>16-bit card w/ an actual SCSI port (with the $50 bonehead adapter, of
>course) and MIDI.  I know about Creative Labs' answer to the PAS/16, the
>SB/16, but I have yet to hear about the Gravis card (have I been out of
>the computer world for that long?)
>
>-Josh

What is so wonderful about the Ultrasound is that it is a wavetable
synthesis board, as compared to FM used by SB, SBPro, PAS-16, and
practically all other sub-$500 audio cards out there.  Wavetable
synthesis involves using small samples, looped and modulated, to
reproduce instruments with much greater realism than possible with
FM synthesis.

The Ultrasound has 32 mono voices or 16 panning stereo voices, all of
which can play back wavetables simultaneously.  Wavetables are stored
on the card's standard 256k of RAM, which is expandable to 1M.  The
basic board can reproduce 16-bit, 44.1kHz samples, but it will only
record in 8-bit.  If you need 16-bit recording, you can purchase
daughtercards for the Ultrasound to upgrade its capabilities.  Besides
16-bit recording, another daughtercard that I know of is the SCSI
interface card.  The basic Ultrasound can be had for as low as $99
with an Electronic Arts offer or ~$130 without.  I don't know about
the pricing of daughtercards, however.

The Ultrasound is compatible with SB/Adlib software through a TSR
emulator.  The compatibility through this means is not perfect, but
is purportedly good.  Support for the Ultrasound's native wavetable
synthesis seems imminent.  Already, a new version of Chuck Yeager's
Air Combat supports the Ultrasound.  Electronics Arts, which have
also acquired Origin, is very much behind the Gravis board.

Phat.