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From: sulkom@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mark Sulkowski)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.xtropy-l
Subject: Re: Let's have a discussion!
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <01GPO5OX2VAQ91WJP4@vms.ucc.okstate.edu>, PEARSON@VMS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU writes...
>Uhm, I think you're missing an essential point. Basically, the market
>does not now and can not in the future protect the interests of something
>as vauge as 'future generations'. [... talk of robotics replacing work ...]
>Then, essentially, the market doesn't need the work force we have today. But,
>our system of distribution of goods is based upon working for a living.
> 
>How you see us getting out of such a dilema, if one exists?
> 
>gary pearson

	Well, I can't speak for Max More, but I consider myself an extropian
so I will give you my two cents.

	It is true that the market primarily protects the interests of those
living today.  Of course, if our interests _include_ the interests of our
children, and our children's children, those interests may certainly be
protected also.  Since extropians are immortalists, extropians will tend to
have a much longer range view to base decisions on, especially if they live
in an extropian (free market) society.  This may allieviate some of the
problems you see occuring.  (For instance, extropians will certainly want
enough trees around on Earth to sustain human life.  They would support
research to find out what we need to preserve, and encourage interested
people to buy up the land as private property, and 'preserve' it.)

	As to robotics putting everyone out of work, I don't believe it.
We have been hearing this sort of thing since the industrial revolution.
Every time there has been a labor-saving advance in technology, people
have been displaced in what they do, but there has always been more valuable
work to do.  Work doesn't simply "run out".  Even if the production of every
material thing is handled through automation, there will still be valuable
services to provide.


Mark Venture				Forward!  Upward!  Outward!
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:32:21 -0600
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From:         PEARSON@VMS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Let's have a discussion!

Wait a minute,

you're telling me that you believe in the unlimited growth of the human
potential, and you also believe that we CAN NOT build a robotic plant
to build cars? You know much about Nissan, for instance? 80 workers,
and thousands of cars a year from their plant in Japan.

How can anyone take you serious about ending mortality when you can't
even see past 18th century economics? Get serious. Either you believe
what you say, and you believe that simply extending the industrial
revolution to it's logical conclusion is at least possible, or you
are hopelessly stuck in hyper-capitalist slogans.

I believe that second of the above to be the case. You are a fraud. Pure
and simple.
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:00:58 BST
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From:         "Russell E. Whitaker" <whitaker@ETERNITY.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      "Black Ice": new 'zine

Yesterday, I visited London's Forbidden Planet bookshop, where, among
other things, I had the pleasure of meeting Orson Scott Card, who was in
town on a book-signing-and-promotion gig.

Whilst at the checkout counter, my signed copy of an O.S. Card book in
hand (hey, I ate the guy's time talking about *Extropy*: TANSTAAFL and
all that jazz), I saw the following ad slip, which I reproduce here in
its (textual) entirety:

--------------------------------------------------
           BLACK ICE

Delve into the magazine that brings you a fluid window to the future.
Offering an oblique angle to current news and media, *Black Ice* looks
behind the scenes at the ideas and people creating the technology that's
impacting on today's world.  Regular contents include:

        Virtual reality
        Smart drugs
        Computer sub cultures
        Future media
        Underground science
        Quantum mechanics
        Weird art
           and
        Avant garde fashion

At selected newsagents and comic books stores in September.

Order your copy directly off the press from
Black Ice
P.O. Box 1069
Brighton  BN2 4YT
[England]

Make cheques and postal orders payable to Black Ice
----------------------------------------------------------------

I haven't seen a copy, but the advertising is slick, and the contents
sound like stuff many of us here like to talk about, with the possible
exception of the Mondoid-sounding "Weird art and avant garde fashion".

I'll find a copy sometime, and tell you all what I think.  You may ask,
"Why is Russell posting this?"; good question.  The proximal cause is
that I'm stuck in a pub, about to head back to the office, and, as I
really REALLY dislike lazing about, thought I'd bang out a short
pre-review on my laptop.  ;-)

Seriously, though, I'm following up on a private communication with Max
More, *Extropy* editor; Max has noticed the rapid proliferation of
transhumanist-style publications, all over the place.

At least one of our distributors says that transhumanist publications
are hot stuff... we're selling our ideas, like mad!  This stuff is
popular.

Onward!


Russell Earl Whitaker                   whitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk
Communications Editor                       71750.2413@compuserve.com
EXTROPY: The Journal of Transhumanist Thought         AMiX: RWHITAKER
Board member, Extropy Institute (ExI)
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From: whitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk ("Russell E. Whitaker")
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:14:58 EST
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From:         Jim Ennis <JIM@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      MHS

Can anyone briefly tell me what the heck MHS stands for?  It appears to
be some type of mail protocol standard.  Any tips or pointers would be
appreciated.

I am in the middle of evaluating email systems (from the technical side)
for possible campus standards, and I am trying to figure out the technical
terms before someone asks me about them.

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Jim Ennis has posted the following note:

> Can anyone briefly tell me what the heck MHS stands for?  It appears to
> be some type of mail protocol standard.  Any tips or pointers would be
> appreciated.
>
> I am in the middle of evaluating email systems (from the technical side)
> for possible campus standards, and I am trying to figure out the technical
> terms before someone asks me about them.

MHS  =  Message Handling System
defined as the set of User Agents (UA) plus the Message Transfer System (MTS)
for an e-mail system.

you may be more interested in the following:

Trus, Steve, Curtis Royster and Paul Markovitz.  Aug. 1990.
Guidelines for the Evaluation of Message Handling Systems Implementation.
NIST Special Publication 500-182.  128 pages.
U. S. Government Printing Office

yours,
David Bridge
Smithsonian Institution
BITNET:    David@SIMSC
Internet:  David@simsc.si.edu
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:33:36 CDT
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From:         Claudia Lynch <AS04@UNTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: MHS

MHS stands for Message Handling Service. I am not even close to being
an expert on this, but I will reproduce for you a paragrapy from an
article that appeared in our June newsletter (I'm the editor). The
title of the article is "Electronic Messaging with NetWare Message Handling
Service (MHS)" and it is by our E-mail Analyst, Mike Murdock (murdock@
cc1.unt.edu).

"Electronic messaging consists of three major components: the store-and-
forward messaging engine, the messaging applications that make use of it,
and gateway services. For E-mail, the 'messaging application' is the
part of the system that you utilize. Through the messaging application's
user interface, you create a mail message. Then the application delivers
the message to the 'store-and-forward messaging engine' which routes and
transfers the message from one location to another, perhaps through a
gateway which would involve the third component, gateway services. Novell's
NetWare Message Handling Service (MHS) is one type of 'store-and-forward
messaging engine' that many messaging applications use for message
delivery."

Hope this helps.

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From: I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET (Spartacus At CunyVM)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.cw-email
Subject: Re: Prodigy Gateway
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:42:00 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <CW-EMAIL%92101608023193@TECMTYVM.MTY.ITESM.MX>, "McDaniel, Lew"
<U1E28@WVNVM.BITNET> says:
>
>Is there a way to send to Prodigy from Bitnet?  Same question for
>Compuserv....Thanks
>
>Lew McDaniel
>West Virginia University

   Nope, I doubt it.  Prodigy has no gateways to other networks.
One of two reasons I cancelled my membership last october (91).
The other? Can't stand commericals...especially when I was paying
~$12/mo to prodigy for them.  :-)

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From:         Laurence Lundblade <lgl@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: MHS

It stands for "Message Handling System", but has two uses: Novell uses it to
name their e-mail handling system, and X.400 uses it to refer to all the parts
of a mail system (UA, MTA and MS) except the user.

Laurence Lundblade                       206-543-5617
  lgl@cac.washington.edu
     Computing and Communications, University of Washington, Seattle


On Thu, 8 Oct 1992, Jim Ennis wrote:

> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:14:58 EST
> From: Jim Ennis <JIM%UCF1VM.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list CW-EMAIL
 <CW-EMAIL%TECMTYVM.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu>
> Subject: MHS
>
> Can anyone briefly tell me what the heck MHS stands for?  It appears to
> be some type of mail protocol standard.  Any tips or pointers would be
> appreciated.
>
> I am in the middle of evaluating email systems (from the technical side)
> for possible campus standards, and I am trying to figure out the technical
> terms before someone asks me about them.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jim Ennis - Senior Systems Programmer  |    UCF Postmaster
> University of Central Florida          |    JIM@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU
> PO BOX 25000                           |    (407) 823-2713
> Orlando, FL 32816                      |    "Servo/Crow in 92"
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:32:40 CDT
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From:         "(David E Boyes)" <dboyes@IS.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: MHS
              92 4:14 pm

> Can anyone briefly tell me what the heck MHS stands for?  It appears to
> be some type of mail protocol standard.  Any tips or pointers would be
> appreciated.

Message Handling System/Service. There are two definitions, the
Novell/LAN-based MHS, and the X.400 MHS. Since X.400 is (personal
opinion!!!) mostly mythical, the more common meaning refers to
the Novell MHS. It's a set of messaging protocols that allow
multiple front-end applications to communicate in order to share
data and coordinate activities over a local or wide area network.
(For you history buffs, it's a cut-down version of the XNS
Courier protocol.)

Netware MHS allows LAN-based mail systems to interface to
external mail protocols like SMTP and OSI X.400 garbage.

> I am in the middle of evaluating email systems (from the technical side)
> for possible campus standards, and I am trying to figure out the technical
> terms before someone asks me about them.
> Jim Ennis - Senior Systems Programmer  |    UCF Postmaster

Get a copy of GG24-3890 from your local IBMer. It's a ITSC report
(red book) on Netware, TCP, Appletalk, NDIS, ODI, routers,
bridges,  and all sorts of other good networking stuff.

Joe Bob sez: "Check it out."
From: phil@WUBIOS.WUSTL.EDU ((J. Philip Miller))
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Subject: Re: Prodigy Gateway
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:37:29 GMT
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> >Is there a way to send to Prodigy from Bitnet?  Same question for
> >Compuserv....Thanks
> >
> >Lew McDaniel
> >West Virginia University
>
>    Nope, I doubt it.  Prodigy has no gateways to other networks.

Compuserve has been availale for some time.  Prodigy just announced that it
would soon be offering this service (for a fee).
>
-phil

--
     J. Philip Miller, Professor, Division of Biostatistics, Box 8067
	 Washington University Medical School, St. Louis MO 63110
     phil@wubios.WUstl.edu - Internet  (314) 362-3617 [362-2694(FAX)]
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From:         "McDaniel, Lew" <U1E28@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Prodigy Gateway

Is there a way to send to Prodigy from Bitnet?  Same question for
Compuserv....Thanks

Lew McDaniel
West Virginia University
From: CC100PG@GITVM1.BITNET (Paul Goodwin)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.linkfail
Subject: GITVM1 VMNET down Monday Oct. 12 0630 - 0700
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:45:30 GMT
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GITVM1's VMNET links will be down on Monday, Oct. 12, from 6:30am to 7:00am
for an upgrade of our TCP/IP software to release 2.2.  This is to releive a
problem with our FTP software.  We do not anticipate any problems or loss
of files in transit.  We apologize for any inconvienence this may cause.


Paul Goodwin

Affected services:

LISTSERV@GITVM1 (a Backbone server)
RELAY@GITVM1 (Atlanta)
Access to the gatech.edu domain.

Affected downstream nodes:

Georgia Tech: GITCDC1, GTRI01, GITMVS1
Emory University: EMUVM1, EMORY, EMORYU1, EMORYU2, EMRYCC, EMUBUS, RMY
Georgia State University: GSUMVS1, GSUVM1
Jacksonville State University: JSUCCVM1, JSUMUS
Samford University: SAMFORD
U Alabama Birmingham: ASNUAB, UABCMC, UABTUCC, UABDPO, UABDOM, UABOED
From: VSLARRY@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Larry Israel)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.linkfail
Subject: WEIZMANN Outage
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:41:06 GMT
Reply-To: Larry Israel <VSLARRY@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
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Comments: cc: "Lawrence S. Kalman" <vslawr@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>

Due to a head crash, some incoming mail between 5:05 and 8:00 on
October 14 may have been lost.
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:16:00 MET
Reply-To:     "SARA Network Information Centre" <NIC@SARA.NL>
From:         "SARA Network Information Centre" <NIC@SARA.NL>
Subject:      Announced service interuption Amsterdam-EBS1 19-10-92 : off
Comments: To: eot@ebone.net, ic@sara.nl, netmaster@surfnet.nl, saranet@sara.nl,
              sn-ipman@nic.surfnet.nl, ripe-op@ripe.net

The previously announced service interuption of Amsterdam-EBS1 on monday
19-10-92 will not take place.

 - Henk Steenman
   SARA, NIC
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:34:00 MET
Reply-To:     "SARA Network Information Centre" <NIC@SARA.NL>
From:         "SARA Network Information Centre" <NIC@SARA.NL>
Subject:      TICKET [.sara-cern]921007-1 CLOSE
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              sn-ipman@nic.surfnet.nl, ripe-op@ripe.net

Ticket Number: [.sara-cern]921007-1  Ticket Status:   close
Ticket Type:   scheduled             Ticket Source:   SARA
Ticket Scope:  router                Site/Line:       Amsterdam-EBS1
Ticket Owner:  nic@sara.nl           Problem Fixer:   SARA

Ticket Opened: 921007 11:28 CET      Problem Started: 921012 18:00 CET
       Closed: 921007 11:28 CET                Ended: 921012 22:00 CET

Problem Description:
        Because of maintenance, the Amsterdam-EBS1 router will be switched of
        for a short while.

Affected:
        IP traffic between northern and southern Europe and USA.
        Also affected: EARN traffic.

Actions:


Time to fix:
        A few minutes (we hope).

Fix:
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:46:00 CDT
Reply-To:     William Mueller -- MACC <MUELLER@MACC.WISC.EDU>
From:         William Mueller -- MACC <MUELLER@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      WISCMACC upgrade this weekend
Comments: To: LinkFail@UGA.BitNet, RLRCU@CUNYVM.BitNet,
              anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu, thomson@zazen.macc.wisc.edu,
              Net_Admin@Nutron.Decnet

To: LinkFail@BitNic.BitNet
    RLRCU@CUNYVM.BitNet

Note: All times are CDT

The entire WIRCS cluster which includes

WISCMACC = (WISCMAC1, WISCMAC2, WISCMAC3, WISCMAC5),

will  be  upgraded  to  VMS  V5.5-2HW  this   weekend, October 17-18. All nodes
of the cluster will be unavailable most of the day on October 17  beginning  at
7  a.m.  Limited  use  may  be  necessary  on October 18  while  layered
products  are  upgraded or to clear up problems caused by the migration.

#           William C. Mueller         1210 West Dayton Street     608-262-9886
|  MACC     Univ of Wisconsin-Madison  Madison, WI 53706  mueller@macc.wisc.edu
#--------#  Academic Computing Center  UNITED STATES    mueller@wiscmacc.bitnet
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:37:00 MET
Reply-To:     "SARA Network Information Centre" <NIC@SARA.NL>
From:         "SARA Network Information Centre" <NIC@SARA.NL>
Subject:      TICKET [.sara-cern]921007-2 OPEN
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Ticket Number: [.sara-cern]921007-2  Ticket Status:   open
Ticket Type:   scheduled             Ticket Source:   SARA
Ticket Scope:  router                Site/Line:       Amsterdam-EBS1
Ticket Owner:  nic@sara.nl           Problem Fixer:   SARA

Ticket Opened: 921007 11:34 CET      Problem Started: 921019 18:00 CET
       Closed:                                 Ended:


Problem Description:
        Because of maintenance, the Amsterdam-EBS1 router will be switched off
        for a short while.

Affected:
        IP traffic between northern and southern Europe and USA.
        Also affected: EARN traffic.

Actions:


Time to fix:
        A few minutes (we hope).
Fix:
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:45:54 GMT
Reply-To:     "CNUSC operator" <PUPITRE@FRMOP11.BITNET>
From:         "CNUSC operator" <PUPITRE@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Subject:      Computer shutdown/link failure
Comments: To: NAD-F@FRMOP11.BITNET

Due to a hardware failure, FRMOP53
will be down from the 05/10/92 (06:00)  to the 12/10/92 (??:..) (local time).
Sorry for any inconveniences.

CNUSC Operator
From: AMORIM@PTIFM.BITNET (Pedro Amorim)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.linkfail
Subject: Node Ptearn down
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: Pedro Amorim <AMORIM@PTIFM.BITNET>
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Original_To:  JNET%"linkfail@cearn"


   Due to :
    Electrical works
    Line failures

   Link and node PTEARN have been unstable. We think the situation is OK now.
     Pedro Amorim
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:41:23 MET
Reply-To:     Manfred Bogen <MABOGEN@DEARN.BITNET>
From:         Manfred Bogen <MABOGEN@DEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      DEARN/ DFNGATE downtime
Comments: To: earn-rpg@frmop11.BITNET, pits-request@princeton.edu,
              rd-mhs-managers@cosine-mhs.switch.switch.arcom.ch

DEARN downtime: From October, 20th (Tuesday), 7 p.m. (MEZ, morning)
                to   October, 20th (Tuesday), 9 p.m. (MEZ, morning)

REASON: Hardware reconfiguration of IBM 9121-320

AFFECTED NODE(S):  all German EARN nodes and DFNGATE (X.400-BSMTP-GW,
                   backup WEP for DFNRELAY (German X.400-relay))

AFFECTED INTERNATIONAL LINE(S): CEARN, YALEVM, FRMOP22, ICNUCEVM, HEARN,
                                AEARN, TAUNIVM, SEARN, UKACRL

IMPLICATIONS: none

CONTACT: (Manfred Bogen) MABOGEN@DEARN (+49 2241 14 3192)
                         Manfred.Bogen@GMD.DE
                         s=MABOGEN; ou=z1wn; p=gmd; a=dbp; c=de

Manfred Bogen        "Be liberal in what you accept,    MABOGEN@DEARN.BITNET
GMD.I8.NW.GeNeRIC     and                               Tel. + 49 2241/ 14 3192
Rathausallee 10       conservative in what you send."   FAX  + 49 2241/ 14 3002
W-5205 St. Augustin     The Robustness Principle
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:22:25 MEZ
Reply-To:     Erwin Halpern <EARNADM@AWIUNI11.BITNET>
From:         Erwin Halpern <EARNADM@AWIUNI11.BITNET>
Subject:      Bulgaria down
Comments: To: pits@Princeton.EDU
Comments: cc: EARN-NOG@FRMOP11.BITNET

Hello Folks,

now things start running:

As a preliminary of the AEARN-movement from Linz to Vienna the
node ATGBOX will physically be moved from Linz to Vienna.

On Moday, 12.10.1992, 08:00 local time to 15:00 local time (UTC+1)
the node ATGBOX will be unavailable.

Nodes affected: All nodes in Bulgaria

As far as I know these are:
BGEARN and BGCICT (officially known)
and BGPHV1, BGCHV1, MATH & FIZIKAR (internal Bulgarian nodes)

Sorry for the downtime

Greetings   Erwin
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