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From: ssawin@bbn.com (Scott Sawin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: nhl schedules wanted
Date: 30 Jul 1992 17:25:17 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: ssawin@ccv1.bbn.com (Scott Sawin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Jul26.043729.26269@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca (TONY D'ALFONSO) writes:

		    Boston Bruins 1992-1993 Home Games


October    November     December    January    February    March    April      
	                                                            
 8 HART     5 QUE        3 MTL       2 HART     2 EDM       1 MTL    3 BUF *  
10 NYI      7 NYR       10 OTA       7 QUE     25 MIN       4 VAN    8 QUE    
12 OTA     12 CGY       14 BUF       9 NJ      27 WASH *    6 SL *  11 OTA   
29 LA      14 TOR       19 WASH     12 BUF                 11 MTL    
31 CHI     19 NYI       22 TB       14 PIT                 13 OTA *  
	   21 PHI                   16 PHI                 20 DET *  
	   27 HART *                18 SJ *                22 HART   
				    23 NJ                  25 MTL    
				    28 WIN                 27 PIT *  

* INDICATES AFTERNOON GAMES

Source:  Boston Bruins season ticket mailing card

Unfortunately I do not yet have the away games.


Scott
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Has Brad Marsh been traded??
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:58:46 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Jul21.141340.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>I was is a bar yesterday (Monday July 20) and there was a TV in the 
>far corner with TSN's SPORTSDESK on.  Any way, they showed a picture 
>of Brad Marsh and an Ottawa SENATORS logo -- can I assume he's been 
>traded? 
> 
>No one has mentioned it here...
> 
I heard late last night that Marsh was traded to the Senators in
exchange for future considerations. 

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From: micbrian@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MAD MAX - THE ROAD WARRIOR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Has Brad Marsh been traded??
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul21.141340.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes...
>I was is a bar yesterday (Monday July 20) and there was a TV in the 
>far corner with TSN's SPORTSDESK on.  Any way, they showed a picture 
>of Brad Marsh and an Ottawa SENATORS logo -- can I assume he's been 
>traded? 
> 
>No one has mentioned it here...

Marsh has indeed been traded from the Leafs to the Senators, for future
considerations.

Brian
From: std_gibson@hg.uleth.ca (Jason Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Flyers jersey?
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:45:37 GMT
Reply-To: std_gibson@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge

In article <kBFLoB2w164w@cellar.org>, darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
>seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) writes:
>> In article <1992Jul24.004524.3354@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ab870@cleveland.
>> Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
>> > I've been so out of it lately, I don't know if I've asked this, but have
>> > the flyers changed their road jerseys to Black body and orange
>> > shoulders?  I swear I've seen more and more pictures of flyers wearing
>> > these uniforms.
>> 
>> Sounds like the FLYERS practice uniform. I've seen 'em in Showcase
>> stores. I haven't heard anything about them changing uniforms, but
>> I'm having a tough summer keeping my facts straight so who knows...
>
>Eric is right, but the change hasn't happened yet.  Peter, you might
>remember seeing the black-with-orange uniforms worn by the "Flyers
>Favourites" team the night before the All-Star Game.  The Flyers plan on
>going to these jerseys for the 1993-94 season, I believe (although I see no
>reason why they don't just do it now; it's not like the lineup is carved in
>stone these days, so they'll have to make more anyhow).
>
>This seems to be the new trend in the NHL, going to black.  I guess we can
>blame those fashion-plate Kings (and, subsequently, the Stars).  I
>understand that New Jersey is going to black as well, and of course the
>Senators road jersey already is.  Getting kind of homogenous, isn't it?
>
>Speaking of the "Flyers Favourites" team...Farwell's supposedly looking for
>an experienced NHL goalie to join Roussel and Soderstrom.  Could this be the
>return of Peetie???...
>
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I think I can put the black uniform "thing" in perspective. It seems that teams
that wear black are more agressive, which is a plus in hockey. Although a down
side to this seems to be that teams wearing black also tend to get more
penalties called against them. (I can't recall the source of this off-hand, but
if anyone is interested e-mail me and I'll get back to you.)

I guess the managerial people are finally starting to listen to the team 
psychologists :-).

--->Jason 
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:33:05 -0400 
From: "Thomas J. Joyce" <tj06+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Penguins Stanley Cup Win in Newspaper?

I think you can get posters of what the PG was to have looked like
had the paper been published. The Press/PG offers them for $9
mail order. I don't have the address.

tom

p.s. I didn't know that Pro-Choice/Clinton-Gore supporters like hockey
     let alone the Pens ;-) Oh well, 1 out three ain't bad.
From: vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Gil STein will change the NHL
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:33:54 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

In article <1992Jul19.103510.5179@philabs.philips.com> jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio) writes:
>In article <smw.711412142@alcor> smw@alcor.concordia.ca ( Steven Winikoff ) writes:

>>Think about it.  If you tried to do on the street what some players
>>do on the ice, you'd be jailed for assault and battery.

>O.K., if this is the case, then I guess boxing should be out-and-out
>banned tomorrow. 

>I move that it be banned in the name of political correctness.

You miss the point. The point is that violence is illegal on the streets
but legal in a war. Just read the law books and you will see that i am right.

Similarly, the rulebook of boxing says that fighting and headbashing were
both legal and necessary. Thus, a person who becomes a boxer knows exactly
what he is getting into.

On the other hand, the rulebook of hockey and of the NHL clearly states
that violence is illegal. That's the law. And all we are asking is that the
law be upheld. If you think that fighting is a part of hockey, then change
the rules and make fighting legal. 
>
>I don't want to start flame wars over how this is different, etc.,
>since I know it is.  All I am saying is that the "illegal on the
>street" defense is weak.  Think about it-- you never see Mario Andretti
>getting a speeding ticket during a race, even though he is going about
>3x the speed limit....

Again, 200 mph is LEGAL on a race track and illegal on  a street.

Are we a law-based nation or not?

Employer disagrees
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: romano@monolth.bellcore.com (Paul C. Romano)
Subject: RANGERS NEWS: Werenka signs new contract
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:31:32 GMT


From today's Newark Star Ledger:

	The New York RANGERS announced yesterday that defenseman Darcy
Werenka has signed a new contract. Werenka, a defenseman who played 
junior hockey at Lethbridge last season, is a smooth, finesse-styled
defenseman who collected 17 goals and 58 assists for 75 points in 69 games
last season, 2nd among defenseman in the WHL. It is believed by many in 
the RANGERS organization that Werenka will make the team this fall. This, 
coupled with the surprise re-signing of defenseman Per Djoos, is adding 
fuel to the fire that RANGERS GM Neil Smith has offered James Patrick as
part of the package for Edmonton's Dave Manson....

	Sources in Ottawa say the RANGERS will soon send Jody Hull to the 
Senators for the return of goalie Mark LaForest, taken in the expansion
draft. The LaForest selection was, apparently, part of a pre-arranged deal 
to keep Tampa Bay from selecting Randy Gilhen from the RANGERS....

That's all for now....

Paul Romano
RSH Contact - NY RANGERS


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From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Dark jerseys cause more penalties (was Re: Flyers jersey?)
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:55:56 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <allan.712382410@st-lina>, allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan) writes:
> std_gibson@hg.uleth.ca (Jason Gibson) writes:
> 
>>I think I can put the black uniform "thing" in perspective. It seems that teams
>>that wear black are more agressive, which is a plus in hockey. Although a down
>>side to this seems to be that teams wearing black also tend to get more
>>penalties called against them. (I can't recall the source of this off-hand, but
>>if anyone is interested e-mail me and I'll get back to you.)
> 
> Hmmmm.... I'd be interested in knowing the source of that.
> 
> If my memory serves me right, some of the most penalized teams in the NHL were
> the Blackhawks (red jerseys, but they have 'black' in their name :-)
> the Flames, etc. Detroit was also an aggressive team, who didn't wear
> black.
> 
I remember reading something about that eight or nine years ago.  It was
a newspaper or magazine article describing a study some psychologist
had done.  The psychologist had found that teams with predominantly
black uniforms tended to get more penalties and win more games than
other teams.

He used data from the four major pro sports (hockey, baseball, football,
and basketball) over the preceding (10? 20? 30? can't remember) years.
The only black-uniform teams I can think of from that era are the
Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Chicago
Bears, and the Chicago White Sox.  The Sox stunk, but the other teams
were good.

I think I remember the article saying that the effect was weak, but
still it wasn't too much later that everybody started changing to
black unis.  (Canucks, Kings, Pens, and now apparently the Flyers)

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Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca
From: mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: CHL Newsletter
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:43:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK


This is the second call for subscribers for a CHL newsletter.  I will
try to send out league info on a weekly basis once the season starts,
and will try to include files on team management, rosters, and stats.
For those of you who may have missed it, the CHL teams are:

Fort Worth Fire
Oklahoma City Blazers
Wichita Thunder
Memphis River Kings
Tulsa Oilers
Dallas Freeze

I finally resolved the question of the salary cap; it is $100,000 for the
entire team.  Yep, these boy will be working cheap. I will be posting a
more detailed look at the league (all the info I have at this point)
shortly...

Marc
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: layfield@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Colin Layfield)
Subject: Makarov
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:24:03 GMT

It would appear that the Calgary Flames have matched the offer made by
San Jose to Makarov.

Makarov will be getting paid around $500,000 next season.


 Colin Layfield            | "Religion and Sex are power plays,
                           |  Manipulate the people for the money they pay,
 The University of Calgary |  Selling Skin, Selling God
 Computer Science          |  The numbers look the same on their CREDIT CARDS!"
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From: v057p7nk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew W Korbut)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Rumor time / Philly-Buffalo?
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:55:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I was talking to a (usually brain-dead) friend of mine who mentioned a
possible Hawerchuk to Philly deal, in exchange for ??? who knows ???
Do they have anything left besides Lindros? (And Recchi and Brind'Amour)?

Maybe Pelle Eklund plus ? (better be ++ after last year)
Maybe Boivin?

Anybody else?

 Dr.D [The Devils Advocate]        "Drinkin' & women & guns don't mix..."
 v057p7nk@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
 awkorbut@acsu.buffalo.edu                      - Mark Arm
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: tpe36878@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Who are you to ask? )
Subject: Re: fighting in hockey (or any sport)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:54:09 GMT

wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:

>P.S. Speaking of the good old days, and I don't remember them very well since
>I was a little kid then, but I vaguely remember a good brawl. It was the
>typical end of the period free-for-all. When the next period started, everyone
>was in the box except the skaters that were originally on the ice when the
>period ended. That was a site! The older I get, the less likely I think that
>it really could have happened that way.

	By the way....need I recall everyone's attention to the bench-clearer
	after the America-France game in the '92 Olympics?
	
	
	tom
	tpe36878@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: zeke@meadow.uucp (Samuel Lee)
Subject: Re: Leafs new home
Reply-To: zeke@meadow.UUCP (Samuel Lee)
Organization: Amdahl Canada Ltd., Software Development Center
Distribution: na 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 12:59:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul17.160013.9090@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>>
>>Huh, Gerald?  Unless Stern is lying (which I don't think he is), I believe he
>>has said that the NBA will *not* expand for the rest of this century.
>>
>
>Expansion is not the only way to get a team...
>Toronto lacks a suitable building...when it
>gets one, the NBA will rush in.

Well then tell me, which NBA team is in so dire financial straits that it will
"rush in" to Toronto the second it gets a suitable building?  NO NBA team is
in THAT much trouble.

-- Zeke.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: paul@maunakea.Data-IO.COM (Paul Brownlow)
Subject: Re: Dallas trying for NHL team
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:10:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.153901.5908@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster) writes:
|> 
|> Well, this makes things interesting.  I still don't think Dallas deserves
|> a team, and was suprised to see Denver, Cleveland, Phoenix, Cincinnati,
|> Portland, and (whimper) Kansas City left off the list as candidates, though

The Portland Memorial Coliseum holds roughly 10,000 for hockey with no
suites.  Now that Trailblazer owner and Microsoft mogul Paul Allen has
(at least temporarily) pulled the plug on the new Portland Arena, a Portland
NHL franchise would have no place to play.

The "Glass Palace" also has an ice sheet about the size of Boston Garden.

In my opinion, Seattle is a questionable choice.  The Seattle Center Coliseum
holds 12,500 (including standing room) for hockey with no skyboxes.  The
proposed Ackerley Arena is dead.  Someone else has proposed a "Stardome"
with no money to pay for it.  The NHL has not drawn well here when they've
played (5,000 & 10,000 two years ago).  The Memorial Cup drew poorly.  I
could go on, but it's not worth it...

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From: John_Carson@mindlink.bc.ca (John Carson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Rogie Vachon...
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:55:22 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Let not start ugly rumors here
> PATRICK EMOND writes:
> 
> Msg-ID: <31JUL199212110702@pavo.concordia.ca>
> Posted: 31 Jul 92 17:11:00 GMT
> 
> Org.  : Concordia University
> 
> 
>    Rogatien (Rogie) Vachon died Wednesday of cancer, he was 40. He had only
> recently learned of his condition, he was rumored to be the Ottawa Senators'
> choice for goaltending coach (Glenn 'Chico' Resch got the job). My Kings
> jacket and goalie stick are at half-mast...
> 
> 
> *******************************************************************************
> *
> Patrick Emond     *'...Odelein's got the puck behind his net, skates
> out...he's
> Concordia U.      * at center, picking up steam...in the Hawks zone splits
> the
> Montreal, Can.    * defense makes a move on Belfour HE SCORES!!!!
> Unbelievable!'
> 
> *******************************************************************************
> *


Let get the names right Bunny Laroque(sp?)

John

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From: chuck@mks.com (Chuck Lownie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Has Brad Marsh been traded??
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:03:56 GMT
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

In article <1992Jul21.141340.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>I was is a bar yesterday (Monday July 20) and there was a TV in the 
>far corner with TSN's SPORTSDESK on.  Any way, they showed a picture 
>of Brad Marsh and an Ottawa SENATORS logo -- can I assume he's been 
>traded? 
> 
>No one has mentioned it here...
> 
>Stephen Legge
><SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca>

You can assume this - for future considerations I believe.

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From: mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster)
Subject: Possible date for Dallas NHL game
Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:19:41 GMT

Today's FW Star-Telegram had a story saying Dallas was getting an NHL
reg season game on or around December 15.  It said that one team was
most likely going to be St. Louis, and speculated the other would be
Minnesota.  However, it did quote another source who said that a game
with the North Stars would be unlikely, presumably because they are 
both in the Norris. 

I wonder if anyone has either team's schedules for December?  Mind
you, none of this is set in stone...

Marc
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:47:50 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Renegotiation


Excerpts regarding renegotiation:

Pravin Ratnam writes:
>>renegotiated contracts? I am not saying that Barasso doesn't deserve a
>>million dollars. Also, I am sure Jagr deserves a gigantic raise once his
>>contract is up. But when you sign a contract, a deal's a deal.

Lori Iannamico writes:
>Barrasso, who is in his option year, is well within his rights to work out
>a new deal with the Pens.  Jagr feels that after his first 2 years in the NHL,
>he's proved he deserves more than the 200,000-250,000 a year.  So he's
going to
>renegotiate his contract.  There is nothing wrong with either.

When players start demanding to renegotiate for LESS money when they
stink out the joint in a given season, then I'll agree with all this
renegotiation business.  Lori, I remember you saying something like
"this sport will bankrupt me yet" when you got your season ticket invoice
for the upcoming season.  What you are saying above (about Jagr) is a piece
of the puzzle that will lead to your eventual bankruptcy.


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From: rpendse@velveeta.mfg.hou.compaq.com (Raju Pendse)
Subject: July 26 Matches
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:29:33 GMT

I don't think that there were any surprises in the first days matches. I guess
all the teams fancied to win won. The only result was the India-Germany which could have been closer, but the outcome I don't think would have been any different. I think India never expected to win the match but probably hoped for a draw.
I don't think India's chances are any lower after this loss. The matches they 
have to take care of are obviously Australia and UK. I don't mean to belittle 
Argentina or Egypt. But then if they can't beat Argentina and Egypt they don't
deserve to make the semis either.
Does anyone have any insight into the Australian team. I have heard of recent 
performances of the Pakistani, Dutch, German, and the UK teams but have not
heard anything about the Aussies' recent performances and incomparison to the above mentioned teams. Are they as good as the 7-0 win over Argentina or are the
Argentinians that bad these days.

Raju Pendse
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: kirchner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Robert Kirchner)
Subject: Most impressive arena?
Originator: kirchner@hphalle1b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:56:45 GMT


Which is the most fascinating, most impressive arena for watching a NHL game?

Don't rank by home team, but criterias like noise made by cheering fans,
support when team plays not very well, show, entertainment before the game
starts and during breaks, music, architecture, tradition, ...



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