From: snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Stephen Northcutt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: hymns
Keywords: TANGENT virus at bottom of post BEWARE
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:51:24 GMT
Reply-To: snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center

I was in a church this morning with hymn books, amazing!  I looked
around and they had a view graph projector just like a proper
church :-) :-), but they were actually singing out of hymn books.

The pastor was leading the service (6:00 AM intercessory prayer)
and he was playing guitar.

Anyway this experience has triggered dim memories of my childhood
past when churches had hymn books and we sang amazing grace and
onward christian soldiers.  

Can you get hymnbooks with chords?  There is a lady at our
church who knows music enough to figure out decent chord progressions
to hymns, but I hate to bother her all the time.  Someone had written
the chords in the pastor was using as well BTW.

If the answer is yes, you can, would you also supply a pointer
like a publishing company, phone number, price and any other
helpful data you can provide.

Many, many thanks!!!!

Stephen

An obscure question:
From the same dim memories of my past, I remember our hymn books
having angular musical notes, quarternotes were diamonds for
instance, does anyone have any idea why this was done????

TANGENT VIRUS INSERTED HERE:
Per the neverending thread on Clinton et all:
>>The point is the Bible was mocked so Republican Christians 
>>could be mocked.
No, not even close, the point is dissension.

Folks I was actually in a church that said:  God is a republican,
that scared me bad, still really bothers me.  I still haven't
gone up to that elder and forgiven him, but I have got to do that
soon.  Others in this church have told me: there is only one choice
in the way you vote.  So you see, I got as good a dose of propaganda
as anyone.

Why, someone will ask, did you not leave the church?  Well for
starters, the pastor, a very wise servant of the Lord, didn't like
that nonsense any more than I did and put a halt to it.

Now about the infamous and twisted :-) Andrew Whitman parody, I
am sorry he took as much flak as he did (I suspect he expected some)
but we could all profit by understanding the benefit that we receive
by his efforts.

I remember commentators on one of my local christian radio stations
(WAVA carrying Rich Bueler(sp) tabletalk: if Clinton wins this
could be the end of the judeo christian era.  This was a spokesperson
for something called the national evangelical association or some
such.

What is wrong with this picture?  God is in control, His will, not
ours be done.  Also this isn't the judeo christian era.  Before
was the age of the chosen (Jew), now for a season is the age
of the gentile.  We can't sumdge them together like choclate
and peaunt butter ::= reeces, so Jew + Gentile ::= judeo christian.

What I am trying to tell myself and I hope that this will benefit
someone else... I have been a bit brainwashed...  the logical
conclusion (of the brainwashing) is that Oh No, an antichrist is
elected president, (somebody actually posted such a thing!!!!)
we need to go underground, start guerilla action...............

	STEPHEN STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP
	Maybe I should check the Bible?
	Maybe turn to Romans 13
	Submit to the Authorities!
	Oh whew, I feel better now, I get to keep being
	a loyal American.  :-)  :-) :-)

So, back to Mr Whitman's post, I can really see why some folk
got all hyper, I understand that there was a lot of emotional
stuff, and factoids, and rumors and rumors of rumors connected
with the past campaign, and that many of us are uneasy, and
restless, and feeling the effects of discouragement.  And so we
may have felt very reactive.

But Mr Whitman is a blessing!  I may not agree with him on all
counts, but I observe that he doesn't brainwash as easily as me,
I am pretty sure at this point, he actually thinks things through
rather than just believing the first opinion he is handed.

But the point is that he was mocking scripture?  You know, I
don't read my KJV Bible much anymore and my NAS doesn't use
the thees and thous, but I am always amused by our tendancy to
correlate KJVspeak with God's truth.  For six months or so, I
have been attending a slightly charismatic church and every once
in a while they have a prophesy.... I have a hard time not busting
out laughing when I hear "thus sayeth the Lord" and such.  Boy
I really don't mean to offend anyone with this observation BTW,
this is just the view of the world from my corner!

So, appeal for unity!  Freedom from brainwashing.  Pray for the
President, President elect and the rest of the elected officials.
Laugh, yes, laugh from time to time. 

This post probably warrents a disclaimer:
Opinions, all just opinions, please don't take me seriously except
the Romans 13 part.