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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:35:40 PDT
From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: KEEPING TIME.
X-To:         Banyan Networks Discussion List <BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>

>
>         From what little I know about NTP, I think it would be valuable if you
> could add the ability to restrict the time updates to one or more "trusted"
> hosts.  Another thing I was wondering about is whether you broadcast a time
> set command everytime you receive a NTP packet [this could lead to a lot of
> unnecessary vines broadcasts] or do you compare the times and skip the
> broadcast if the server time is "close" to real time?  If the latter, it would
> be nice to be able to specify the amount of time the Banyan clock would be
> allowed to drift before resetting.  I know, I know give'm and inch and they
> want a mile. Those were just some of the thoughts I had while pondering how to
> write my own version.
>
John, added most of the things you requested above and am working on "trusted"
host code.

>         Looks like John J. is going to be absent for awhile so csus may not be
> the quickest way for me to get your code. Do you have a host running anonymous
> ftp from where I could retrieve the files?
>

Try FTP'ing infoservices1.dis.cccd.edu and look for NTP100.ZIP. Hopefully,
I will have it there tomorrow...... Oh yeah, signon is anonymous with no
password....

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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:58:29 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: cc:Mail and VINES
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

No, you don't.  cc:Mail is a file-based system.  It loads onto a file volume.

Mike Crist
TRW
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From: scoggin@snow-white.ee.udel.edu (John K Scoggin)
Subject: NTP for VINES
Organization: Delmarva Power & Light Company
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:50:35 GMT

Turned out Rob Sparre in our shop already had a copy.  One question - is this
a Version 2 or Version 3 NTP packet decode?

	- John

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From: carlr@netcom.com (Carl Robinson)
Subject: Re: Users
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 01:25:30 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
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I get the same error message.  It only happens when no users are found.

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From: aetv-bgja-c-tech@ANSBACH-EMH1.ARMY.MIL (Thomas Pocky Pockberger)
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Subject: X.25 to Internet (Milnet)
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:13:58 GMT
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Any help for this "new" problem. I know it can be done, but how????

The Vines servers sends and receives X.25 packets out of the ICA card. But this
packets comes and goes to non Vines Internet hosts.

Also on top of this X.25 we want to be able to use TCP/IP to Vines and non Vines
Internet hosts.

They will connect a modem to the ICA port and the other modem on the dedicated
line goes into a PAD and from there through a Cisco to the rest of Internet.

So they say it's a question of "can VINES assemble and disasamble to X.25
standard in the server and acct as a defacto PAD"?

Any reply is welcome.


Pocky

Thomas F. Pockberger
LAN Administrator

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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:11:58 -0400
From:         DCHEN@UMASSMED.BITNET
Subject:      testing
X-To:         banyan-l@akronvm.urep

sorry, our bitnet link seems to have died.  [ at least it is not giving status]

Thanks
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:48:18 -0400
From:         NSI Security Manager +1-202-434-4541
              <TENCATI@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Job Opening: Site Mgr/Sr. File Svr Admin - Wash. D.C.
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Greetings,

 I recently subscribed to this list. I am submitting the following
 on behalf of my wife, who does not currently have net access. I hope
 the following is not inappropriate for this list. If so, please ignore.

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  ICT, a local DC Metro-Area Government contractor, is looking for a
  person to serve as Site Manager/Sr. File Server Administrator at the
  Air National Guard site on Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland.  We
  need someone with either a CBS or a CBE and at least 3-5 years of
  senior Banyan administration experience.  US Citizenship is required,
  Security Clearance (Secret or above) and supervisory experience is
  preferred.

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 If you are interested, submit your [ascii] resume to this email
 address (and I will forward it) or call (301) 981-8700 and ask for
 Terry Robinson.


 Ron Tencati
 TENCATI@NIC.NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:32:43 MET
From:         HoornwegB@FACB.FHK.EUR.NL
Subject:      re: CoProcessor
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Hi Josef,

I wonder if statistics can be given. The improvement of a coprocessor depends
highly on diskintensity of the serverprocesses, and it isn't called a
FILE server for nothing (or is it a database server?).
If you know the server load and - more important - the load of each process,
then it may be possible to calculate improvement.
If you want to improve performace try using extra RAM first, or faster disks.
A coprocessor is cheap, but I doubt of it helps more then a few percent max...

Marcel Hoornweg
Erasmus University Rotterdam
Hoornweg@facb.fhk.eur.nl
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:23:46 -0400
From:         NSI Security Manager +1-202-434-4541
              <TENCATI@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      re: Moving a File Service
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>
>>I'm getting ready to move a file service from one server to another,
>>both of which will be on the same LAN segment. I'm just a bit paranoid
>>about deleting the original service before the new service is restored
>>and tested. I'd like to know if I'd get into trouble with the following
>>scenario:
>
>> 1) Back up original service to tape.
>> 2) Create a new service, with a different name, on the second server.
>> 3) Restore the tape backup to the new service.
>> 4) Connect to the new service and check it out.
>> 5) Delete the old service.
>> 6) Create a nickname in the old service's group, using the old
>>    service's item name, and point it at the new service.
>>This would restore the use of the service to all of its existing users,
>>without the necessity of changing the SETDRIVE statement in all of the
>>user profiles.
>  7) Adjust all profiles, batch files, etc at your leisure to
>     use the new name.
>
This will work, another way to make sure that the old service is not
"picked-up" by streettalk is to backup the service to tape and delete
it.  Then create a network event i.e. create another new service,
like a dummy service, just to go out and make the network re-evaluate
all of the services that it sees.  This will force vines to forget
about the old service and will allow you to re-create the service on a
new server successfully without vines getting too confused.  I
recently tried this and it worked.

Another thing is to backup the service on tape, go into MSERVICE,
control the service, stop it, then relocate it to the target server.
Go back out and look for the old service, it should be have been moved
to the target server.  Then just reload the service files on the
targeted server.  I also recently did this.

Both of these seemed to work for us.

Terry Robinson
File Server Administrator
ICT, Inc./Andrews AFB
(301) 981-8700
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:27:07 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      Tape BU

Ok, time for another trivia quiz.  How can a server go into panic mode each and
every time it tries to start a backup???

Things you should know:

* The unit is a 525 SCSI Banyan ext. Bu.
* It has been verified has working great.
* The server is running 5.00(5)
* HELP!!!!!!

All the best,

Danny J. Sohier
Laval University
DSOHIER@CTI.ULAVAL.CA
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:36:00 EDT
From:         The Dragon Lensman <LENSMAN@HUB2.BITNET>
Subject:      Macs locking up with 5.0

   Hi, I'm not sure if this is a problem with Vines 5.0 or a problem with
AppleTalk, but here goes anyway. :) The problem I am having is that when I
try to copy very large files from the server to the macs in our labs here,
the Mac will lock up if there is any PC traffic along the same Ethernet
segment, but as long as the PC's are quiet then everything works fine.

                                        Thanx in advance

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 Tom Coveney                  The Dragon Lensman
 Northeastern University      email   : tcoveney@corwin.ccs.Northeastern.EDU
 College of Computer Science  Phone   : (617) 437-2073
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:52:16 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <coates@UC780.UMD.EDU>
Subject: re: BAD TAPE?
X-To:         BANYAN-L%AKRONVM.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU

>was describing the proper method of doing backups, which
>basically consisted of buying two exact duplicate tape backup drives,
>backing up on one and verifying on the other.

I believe I have mentioned doing so with regard to doing "Thank Goodness"
Quick backups of multiple servers.  While one server is backing up to its
gazillionth tape, you could be verifying tapes its already backed up to on
other servers.

This works because unfortunately Vines doesn't compare the backed files on tape
to the original files on tape.

Using other servers to verify another servers back-up tapes can be
especially useful with mutiple servers where two sets of backup tapes are being
made.  Something organizations with a certain Freudian disorder employ.

No, really, two sets of backups - one set on-site and another off - could be
a life saver.

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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:36:16 EDT
From:         keith=lally%techsup%sep@SEP2.SEP.BNL.GOV
Subject:      windows/vines/tcp
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

Here is a question for the windows users.
I would like to run Powerbuilder in windows and have it access the Sybase
SQL server via tcp/ip.  What is the modification to the system.ini file that
tells windows to use the ibanyan or ebanyan drivers for TCP?  Is there
anything else required?

Thanks in advance.
keith Lally
programmer/analyst
brookhaven national lab
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:50:04 -0400
From:         "Jeffrey G. Brown" <usr0377a@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      re: Moving a File Service
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

>My new procedure however, is to make a new service name on the new server
>using a StreetTalk group name that is on the new server.  I then change
>the file service name in the user profiles that require it.

Yes, I plan to do that, but wanted to get the new service up and running ASAP
without modifying a lot of profiles. I have sample profiles for each group,
and will be modifying them as time goes by. I also have some outlying
users, in groups and organizations I do not have administrative rights to,
who can continue to access the new service via the nickname scheme until I
can track them down and have their profiles changed.

Jeffrey G. Brown
usr0377a@tso.uc.edu
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:29:54 EDT
From:         Bob=See%Tech=Support%Banyan@MAGNOLIA.BANYAN.COM
Subject:      re: Moving a File Service
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

One additional recommendation when moving or deleting large file services:

There have been a few reported cases where moves of large file services have
failed.  While we have not been able to identify and resolve the problem, it
can be avoided by deleting the data files in the service prior to deleting the
service itself.  Symptoms of the problem are that the disk space is not freed
up on the original disk and/or the service is reported as still existing in
the original location.  See K1001346 in the Banyan Known Problems Report for
more details.

Third party utilities exist to make deletions of complete directory trees a
simple task.  No problems have been reported when this additional step is
taken.

Thanks-
Bob
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:23:44 CDT
From:         John=Jabusch%ecd%USACERL@AARDVARK.CECER.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      out of the office

I'm going to be out of the office for the next three weeks.  I will return
around the 17th of August.  I will most likely be unavailable for Internet
access, and therefore will not be able to move things around on csus.edu.

Sorry for the inconvenience!

-john

p.s. - Shirley Rodgers,
  I'm off the local exploder.  If you have any problems with this site or our
exploder, please contact Lori Kingery during this period.  Her id is:
	lk%ecd@aardvark.cecer.army.mil
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:47:07 MST
From:         ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET
Subject:      Novell to Banyan printing

You can use the PCTCP/LPR/LPD software from FTP Inc. and the NDIS driver
from BYU.  The PCTCP software allows Banyan users to LPR to the Novell
LPD or line printer demon and the NDIS drivers allow a Banyan and Novell
user to be logged on concurrently sharing either the Novell printer or
the Banyan printer.

-
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY - IRM Computer Center
(602) 965-2826     BITNET   - ICSPMS@ASUACAD
                   INTERNET - ICSPMS@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU

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*  Did it ever occur to anyone else that since Banyan is              *
*  adding 4.11 stuff to 5.00 that maybe instead of 5.10 or 5.11       *
*  it should be 9.11!                                                 *
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:36:15 EST
From:         KMARVIN@WCU.BITNET
Subject:      Simultaneous Mainframe/Network Access

 We have a mixture of PC's on campus which will be requiring access to both our
 mainframe computer and a network operating system. Many of the PC's are old
 IBM 5150 and PS/2 models with two floppy drives. They have insufficient RAM to
 run other applications when both programs are loaded in memory.

 Has any other site come up with a way to enable access to two different routes
 (in our case, the mainframe using Y-Term and our Banyan network) without
 re-booting?

 Thanks in advance,

 Kathie Marvin                     KMARVIN@WCU.BITNET
 Administrative Computing
 West Chester University
 West Chester, PA
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:23:42 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      ref: Appletalk not changing

The answer to my problem came from two sources with the same solution.  I had to
rebuild des drivers and shutdown.

Thanks Tom Greenaway and Alain Grouette from Banyan.....

All the best,

Danny J. Sohier
Laval University
DSOHIER@CTI.ULAVAL.CA
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From: scoggin@opus.ee.udel.edu (John K Scoggin)
Subject: Re: NTP for VINES
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:16:37 GMT

In article <9207301643.AA03645@mother.bates.edu> Rob Spellman <rob@MOTHER.BATES.EDU> writes:
>>I tried to anonymously FTP ntp100.zip from infoservices1.dis.cccd.edu, but
>>it won't let me login with anonymous ... (I used scoggin@udel.edu as the
>>password, per Internet custom).
>
>The password for anonymous ftp to infoservices1 is no password at all.
>Just hit return when it asks for a password.

OK.  Now it gives me access denied messages ...  :-(

	- John

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:30:55 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <COATES@UMUC.BITNET>
Subject:      SCO, VInes & SMTP

We'd like to use SMTP to establish mail between a few SCO Unix boxes and a
Vines server.  Presently they do connect via token ring and tcp/ip.  This seems
possible but I'm not sure, we are new to SMTP over token ring.


SCO---|
      | <-------Token Ring
SCO---|
      |
      |
   Vines Server w/ SMTP option


I'm thinking SMTP on the SCO boxes to a Vines SMTP service on the Vines server.
Are there any caveats or things to remember?

I would appreciate any info.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:03:46 AES
From:         Ian=Brabham%CC%Monash@BANYAN.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: Hardware Platform Questions
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LuAnne Meyer <luanne%HQ.AF.MIL@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>,

>We want an internal 2.2GB tape drive vs. the 150MB drive do complete system
>backups on one tape.
>Questions:
>2.  Banyan also said the tape drive should work ok.  Anyone with experience
>otherwise?

I am using 2 Exabyte 8200-260P drives on Rev 4.10(5) servers with no
problems apart from a winge message about unsupported units when booting.
The second unit I had shipped had old firmware and refused to run the
verify (confirm readability).  The supplier upgraded the ROM's and all is
okay.

I am evaluating a new DAT drive the HP 35470A that has been programmed
to emulate a REAL BANYAN EXABYTE drive.  So far it is working very well
even on an older 4.00(5) server (which won't run a real Exabyte).  Tapes
hold 2.0 Gb (90 meter tape).

It is a 3.5 inch half height drive.  Throughput is rated at 183Kb/sec
sustained, I am getting about 8 Meg per minute throughput.  It draws
about 5 watts.  It does NOT need preformated tapes.  Tape load and
file mark transfer times leave the Exabyte in the dirt.  I retrieved
a file from the begining of the last service (Vines Files) on a full
system backup (500 Meg) it took 87 seconds.  The Exabyte took over 15
minutes.  There is also a compression option for that allows between
4 and 8 Gigabytes to be stored on a tape.

>3.  Any suggestions on the 130MB disk drive?

In my most recent server I have used Quantum ProDrive LPS 120 series drives
for the /disk1 device.  It is a 3.5 inch third height unit available in both
IDE (LPS 120AT) and SCSI (LPS 120S) forms.  I used the IDE version so I
could disable the ROM on the SCSI controller and thus was able to install
an ICA card with memory at 0xC0000 to 0xDFFFF.

The drive is a sub 16ms unit and comes with 256K of on board cache.  I
have measured outer track transfer rates approaching 1.3Mb per sec.  The
MTBF is quoted as 250000 hours.  Power consumption is less than 5 watts.

It also has 2 bigger brothers (both 3.5 inch half height) a 240 meg and
a 420 meg version with similar performance.  I am using 2 of the 420 Meg
(Prodrive 425S) SCSI drives in other servers with very good results.  They
have noticably better performance than the 5.25 full height Maxtor 600 Meg
SCSI units I have been using.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
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