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From: aleta@cs.cornell.edu (Aleta Ricciardi)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: those Schoo folks (was AMC: Scott)
Organization: Cornell University, CS Dept., Ithaca, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:42:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.214034.13737@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>, dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan6.201023.13086@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com (kemmerling,gayle c) writes:
|> >In article <1993Jan6.163243.1550@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson) writes:
|> >> 
|> >> Boy, every time I read about the Schoos, I

sorry, kids, but i've been outta touch recently... can someone post a 
summary of what these `people' have done.

	aleta
From: patricia@pete.uucp (Patricia Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: OLTL:  Nora belting the drunk guy on New Year's Eve
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:20:22 GMT
Reply-To: patricia%pete%nicmad%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: My system in Madison WI

In <1il4bkINNfid@smaug.West.Sun.COM> lindamo@ism.isc.com (Linda M.) writes:


>Did anyone notice that when Nora slugged the drunk guy after he had knocked
>Bo into her - before they were arrested - that she gave him a pretty serious
>right hook, and then backed off rubbing her left hand/wrist?

I don't remember enought to comment on the continutity, but I thought
it was great that Nora slugged the guy when he pussed her instead of
Bo coming to her rescue and doing it for her.

>Also, we both swore that before Blair cut up Cassie's dress it was a knee-length
>dress, and when she turned up at the party, it had matured into a floor-length
>gown.

What's interesting is the way Cassie thought that Blair cutting up her
dress was no big deal.  

>Nora really makes me amused, though.  She has great comedic timing, and even
>though the "let's have a female help Bo discover the truth about Sara's
>demise" story has been done before, I think she's one of the best additions
>to OLTL in years, IMHO.


I agree, I really like the Nora character.  There is a write up about
Hilary Smith in Episodes this month.  IT states that she is married
to a guy she met a the age of 14.  They have two children and when she
is not at work she spends all her time with the family.  The Smiths
do not like the party scene of NY and live in New Jersey, across the
street from where he grew up and next door to where his grandparents
lived.  

Patricia


>Linda Moore

-- 
Patricia Peterson   (608)273-4573
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Subject: Re: DOOL - TAN: My NFL Playoff Predictions
From: Nelson Broat <NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 4 Jan 1993 16:33:09 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <_872=0+@rpi.edu>, root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) says:
>
>Well, I was one of the first to respond to Nelson's picks, my picks went in
>exact opposite to Nelson's, I managed to go 3-1, the only loss was my
>Vikings, but even if wasn't a fan I would've picked 'em anyway.

Yeah, but lets not forget why you went 3 and 1...and that was because
you were smart enough to pick opposite me as most people do. :) :) :)

>I'll get my picks for this week out first:

Okie doke.

>Eagles 31 Cowboys 21

Oh Vi...ince... did you see that? :) Where is he anyways? Must still be
in mourning over the Cotton Bowl defeat his beloved Aggies suffered at
the hands of Notre Dame...a team which really didn't belong there, as
they were only number 5 and not number 4, right Vince? :-)

CowPokes 28  Beagles or "The team that talks a lot but only every once in
             a while backs it up" 21

>Niners 28 skins 17

Miner Whiner 49ers 35  Washed up n' Skinned 16  I'm a bit more generous.

>Chargers vs Dolphins -- All the pointers except for defense come down on
>                        Miami's side. I don't know why, but I just feel the
>                        Chargers are the team of destiny. I think they will
>                        find a way to win.
>
>Chargers 17 Dolphins 14

I whole heartedly agree! I'd love to see the Chargers and the Steelers
in the AFC Championship with the winner facing Dallas.

Chargers 24 Dolphins 17  This win may actually propel them into the Super
Bowl. But lets all remember something here, the Chargers 11 regular season
wins came against teams with losing records; the only exception was the
Colts. 2 of their 5 losses were to the Chiefs. And as previously stated
its hard to beat a team 3 times. Add to the fact the Chargers were riding a
natural high. They're quick to the QB, but Marino is without question
the fastest release man in the NFL. I pick them only because I want them
to win. Hmmmm, maybe I should mantra it...nah. :-)

>Steelers 26 Bills 20

Sounds good to me.

>Well there they are, we'll see how I do. I wouldn't mind going 3-1 again.

Me neither. ;)

>J.R. Ordon
>A Vikings Fan .. we'll get'em next year

Funny...but that was the second thing my dad said after the game clock
expired. The first thing was..."don't rub it in". He saw the grin on my
face.

                                           As predictable as ever -N- All
From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ALL: possible addition(s) to FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions list)
Summary: need your input, please!
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:55:44 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab, Lexington, MA


Hello, folks.

As keeper of this group's FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions list), I'm
always on the look-out for more questions that are asked regularly
in this newsgroup.  Since I took over the job from Sandra Macika about
a year ago, the soaps-FAQ has doubled in size.  I feel this is good in
some ways, because more questions are being answered.  However, I'm also
worried that its very length may be causing people to hesitate reading it.

That is why I am now asking you, the readers of rec.arts.tv.soaps, to
help me decide whether or not to add the following two questions to the
FAQ.  I'd also welcome comments that may help me to flesh out the 
answers, or any other other concerns/questions you may have about the
current FAQ.

*****

1) Do the soap writers read rec.arts.tv.soaps?

Many readers of this newsgroup have wondered if the writers of their
soap opera(s) read r.a.t.s.  I've never seen a definitive answer for
any soap besides AMC.  James Kiberd [Trevor Dillon] told Jerry Carathers
[an AMC fan] that the writers read both the UNIX and Prodigy newsgroups.
If anyone else has proof that the writers of their soap reads r.a.t.s.,
please email me (gibbsm@ll.mit.edu).

[I'm not really sure if I should use Jerry's name, as I haven't been
able to contact him thru email]

2) Is there an archive for rec.arts.tv.soaps where I can retrieve past posts?

Not that I'm aware of.  Most news sites expire articles after a week or two,
and some even more frequently.  Since late 1992, the entire Usenet newsfeed
has been made available on CD-ROM [anybody have more information on this??],
so you may be able to find what you want that way.  The only two posts which
I *know* are archived are the soaps-FAQ and the soaps-abbreviations, as
mentioned elsewhere in this FAQ. 

****

Thank you for any input!  I hope to hear from a lot of you.

-- 
Margaret D. Gibbs              "Practice random kindness and 
Assistant Staff	                 senseless acts of beauty"
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
gibbsm@ll.mit.edu
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From: zarecki@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Deanna Zarecki)
Subject: Re: OLTL: tired tired & Jake
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 19:46:16 GMT

jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin) writes:

>Joe Lando (Jake) now co-stars with Jane Seymour, Saturday night (8-9 p.m.)
>in CBS' "Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman."

  You forgot to mention the he's fabulous for the part!  A couple days ago
  I was browsing thru rec.arts.tv and you should have seen all the questions
  of "Where has this hunk been hiding?!"  I had to giggle because I've been
  drooling for two years now. (or however long its been).  Even my husband
  recognized him as Jake and he hardly ever watches ONTL.

Deanna
From: bjbst15@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Bonnie J. Black)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL: Bridgette's child as the penultimate GL character
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:38:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <C0E3w1.83z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jbeason@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Joseph E. Beason) writes:
>
>Anyway: Bridgette's child is genetically a Bauer-Thorpe and will be
>socialized (for awhile, at least) by Cooper-Lewises.  The only big bloodlines
>left are the Spauldings and Reardons (which are admittedly pretty weak these
>days).  Now, if Nola's child comes in, that brings in Chamberlain and
>Reardon genes, Bridgette's child marries that one, and the said offspring
>will be mistakenly raised by Eleni's kid, who has married Kat.  The child
>can be a muliple personality (would have to be, almost) and all the plotlines
>could revolve around him/her...

	Try again.  The child will not have a drop of Bauer blood in
him.  He will, however, have a fair volume of Reardon blood.  And if
you want to get into who has what blood, Michele has no Reardon
blood even though she thinks that Maureen is her mother.  In fact,
Nola's child would be almost far enough removed from Bridget's
child that they could marry safely.  Almost.

	Maybe I'm taking this too seriously.  Maybe this was meant
to be a joke.  I'm just not good at letting inaccuracies go by
(that is, when I actually have a minute to _read_ the newsgroup!).

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From: d8b@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Denise M. Boudria)
Subject: DOOL: Mac Carey dead???
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:56:16 GMT

Over the holidays my stepmother and two of my old aunts kept talking about
MacDonald Carey being dead.  I have no idea where they heard this.  When I
asked them where they got their info, they were very vague (my stepmom said
her hairdresser told her and the aunts heard it at the senior center).  I 
told them I didn't believe because I didn't hear a thing from you guys, so
what's the scoop?   

Denise

P.S.  By the way, if he's not dead, I have to call my aunts right away to
let them know because they both have a major crush on him (they're 80 and
83)!!!!!
From: y88kenek@odalix.ida.liu.se (Kenneth Ekman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Cultsoaps : -)
Date: 11 Jan 93 02:08:50 GMT
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden

Does anyone know if there ever were summaries and stuff like
that for the (here in Sweden still big ones) Falcon Crest 
and Dallas and such? Could they be found on an FTP site?

REgards Kenneth.
From: dias@cac.washington.edu (Vivian Dias )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Friday Update - 1/8/93
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:13:44 GMT
Organization: UW Computing
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: redx.cac.washington.edu

In article <15359@cis.rand.org>, kight@cis.rand.org writes:

|> This whole thing caught me way off guard.  What about the rest of y'all?
|> I kind of thought that Andi was bugged - that way they'd get a record of a
|> confession from Ken.  At least, that's what I was expecting!  And then,
|> bam!  "Drink your tea, Ken, before it gets cold..."  C'mon!
|> 
|> What do you guys think is going to come of this?  Personally, I think it's
|> just a leetle too late for more intrigue (unless SB's been picked up by
|> somebody).  Has it?  Has anyone heard?
|> 
|> A very happy to be back in California where I can now tape my show for it's
|> last week (sniff*), Anne

  I was thrown by the Andie poisoned everyone scenario too, but in a way if
  SB is going to try and get picked up by another network wouldn't it make
  sense to leave some of the story lines in limbo?  They can't very well have
  everyone go riding off into the sunset with the perfect mate cuz then 
  if/when they get picked up again there wouldn't be any story, right?  Okay,
  okay it's a reach but hey, why not?  Besides this way if they don't wrap
  up all the stories all neat and tidy we can write our own endings.  Now
  I have the perfect ending for the Babester and believe me Kelly does not
  enter into the picture at all.  As for Rafe/Lilly/Ted/Angela I really don't
  want to see Angela end up out in the cold unless of course we can somehow
  write John into the story.  Sophia can spend the rest of her days trying to
  clear Ken's good name (cough, choke, cough) and Micah and Jodie can improve
  upon his bedside manner (not that it looked to need much improvement).

  I would like to see Dreyfuss one more time.  I half expected him to pop up on
  the honeymoon.  And Winston, I want to see Fifi or whatever her name was and
  Winston again, too.  And please, please, please can we have some Julia and
  Mason without that damn Gracie?!?  

  Five days and counting...

  -Vivian 
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From: starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders)
Subject: Re: GL: Godzilla Quickies 930103
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:37:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: EnviraForm


On Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:10:42 GMT, dvw@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (diane.v.wilkerson),
in Message-ID: <1993Jan4.191042.26323@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> writes:

>>   Something tells me Mo is going to bite the dust before she gets a chance 
>>to confront Ed and Lillian. Bummer. Ol' Lill subconsciously wanted Maureen 
>>to find that letter, no 'bout adout it...
>
>True.  I think she'll be in a car accident either on the way to the Towers,
>or on the way to Cedars to confront Lillian.

   Looks like we're both going to be half-right on this one.
   Geez, Mo's kitchen confrontation w/the Lill-meister was a monster: 
"...you've turned our lives into a typical surburban joke!"  Medic. 



>New Hart?  Oh, please!

   Yeah, in addition to the Chicago auditions, I saw a NYT article in which 
a young NYC actor described how he didn't get the part. :) Maybe in a real 
stretch, they'll decide to make Hart black this time 'round.  Medic.



>I say Billy and Vanessa back together, oh, let's say, the Bauer Barbeque on 
>July 4th? 

  B & V back in the groove? Sure. But do you really think Ed is going to 
have a barbecue this year?? ;)



>>New Year Wishes
>>Gary Swanson gets out of prison.
>
>And gets a job working at the diner...

   Now, THAT'S Entertainment!

---------
Lance "Hey! Who's got my 'Slam Dancin' Vanessa screen-saver?!" Sanders
starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM
GE Mail: L.Sanders6
Vox: (312) 667-5958


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 1993 14:39:52 -0500 
From: Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: A sad BD
	<Tuqes*Sz1@cecily.UUCP>
Distribution: world

On 02-Jan-93 in Re: DOOL: TAN: A sad BD      
user Rose M. Delckum@cecily.U writes:
>From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
>Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: A sad BD
>Date: 2 Jan 93 14:02:15 GMT
> 
>In article <tksr!gl@lynx.unm.edu>, victori  hamilton writes:
> 
>> 
>> Yes, the subject line says it all.  I want to wish our frail OLD Banana
>> a very happy, yet non-taxing (especially at her advanced age) birthday.
>> I hope someone graciously provides her with bifocals so that she can
>> read this, my sincere and kind birthday wish.
> 
>     Ummm.....Vixen?
> 
>     Just exactly *how* much older than you *is* Ms.Lix?
>Perhaps your own age-fogged memory has lost this bit of
>trivia?  And how is you know so much about bifocals and reading
>computer screens, hmmm?
>> 
>> Seriously, Happy Birthday Lix!  We couldn't make it without you!
> 
> 
>     Yup.  Happy happy happy.
>> 
>> Vickie
> 
>Roserooni--well, JoJo *is* on vacation--someone hadda say it!
>:-)
>> 
>> 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"You can blow out a candle        |      Rose Delckum
> But you can't blow out a fire,   |      rose@cecily.UUCP
> Once the flames begin to catch   |      rose%cecily@uunet.uu.net    
> The wind will blow them higher"  |      uunet!coplex!cecily!rose
>             --Peter Gabriel      |
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> 

And this Banana sincerely appreciates it! Thanks Sis Guava!!

A still A-Peeling Banana
From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:  I'm baack.....
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:27:32 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <191630070@hpcvra.cv.hp.com>, daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs) writes:

> I think they are a good team too.  Dimitri turned completely around when
> Helga admitted (just before taking a major swan dive) that Edmund was 
> Hugo's son and there HAD been a will.  Naturally, Dimitri being the 
> honor-bound guy that he is (gag!), they are buddies now ... although
> they do bicker some.


Hey, Dave brought up a point that I've noticed *and appreciated*--the fact that
even though Dimitri and Edmund are buddies, they are not suddenly warmest best
of friends, as is usually the case.  I really like the prickly nature of their
interactions; it is a lot more realistic than, say, Gloria and Dixie who are so
kissy-poo and "you're my dearest friend", etc.  It seems more likely that two 
people would still have their moments of antagonism, after spending years
hating/battling each other!

Ann Helmers
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From: blythedr@infonode.ingr.com (Dennis Blythe)
Subject: Re: GH: Thursday's show
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 07:11:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.215927.10732@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> mbrownel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Mark Brownell) writes:
>
>BTW I met the woman who played Wendy Masters at the Toronto Fringe
>Festival this summer. You'll be happy to know that she isn't the
>sluttish cow she played on the show - just a nice girl from Calgary.
>(Her dad is an MP) 
>
>She said the experience was weird. Apparently they don't do a lot of
>re-takes on the show - so if you screw up - too bad. (that might explain
>Scotty's weird dialogue of late) 
>
>Mark B.
>


 Interesting, I wonder what she is doing now? I had a simular experience
a few weeks ago. My husband and I were at a friends house. He was showing
us some of his modeling pictures. And to my surprise it was Ian Buchannan
(ex-Duke) modeling with him. They were room mates at the time. They still 
keep in touch. 

 Pam B.
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From: djg@phoenix.genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: LOV:  That Witch Isabelle
Date: 6 Jan 1993 08:50:02 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.genrad.com

In article <1993Jan5.135735.63659@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman) writes:
>

>Ava finds out about Stacey, tells Leo.  Leo's conscience gets the better of
>him and he spills the beans about his partnership with Clay to Jeremy.
>[After all, he's already feeling "guilty" about one woman's death (Ceara).]

[stuff deleted]

>Stacey and DL fight over Jeremy, Stacey wins.  Jack comes back from the "dead"
>- no body, no death.  What to do, what to do?

Gail,

I love it! Unfortunately, you have just written about 1 1/2 years
worth of story line for LOVING....slow to resolve something? No, not
them. :-)

deb
(djg@genrad.com)
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From: jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jean reese)
Subject: Re: SB: return of Eden?
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:43:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.131029.19694@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.055235.28459@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sager@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mike.r.sager) writes:
>>
>>Just a quick comment/question.  Anyone else think Eden will make one
>>final appearance before SB's demise?  Kelly's reference to Eden was one
>>of the few times they've mentioned Eden since she disappeared.  My guess
>>is she returns sometime next week and becomes the person to snap Sophia
>>out of her coma.  It would be fitting; she departed after shooting Sophia.
>>Now she can return to save Sophia.  What do you think?
>>
>>Mike
>
>
>I think that's a great idea, but I don't think it would happen. Next week's
>show has already been taped and I haven't heard any kind a leak about
>Eden coming back. It would be great to see her again though!
>
>John
>

So are you saying they've finished shooting SB? Period? They can all
go home now and strike the sets? Boo hoo!

wimper


Jean


-- 
	"It is my view that the  vegetarian manner  of living by its 
	purely physical effect on the  human temperament  would most 
	beneficially influence the lot of mankind." - Albert Einstein
	++++++++++++++++jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu+++++++++++++++
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From: holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (LAURA HOLST)
Subject: Re: LOV:  Update WED06JAN93
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:19:00 GMT

In article <7JAN199308092421@xenon.arc.nasa.gov>, holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov 
(LAURA HOLST) writes...

>[AU]
>Dinah's still trying to convince Jer to help Stacy.  He says he
>doesn't have the strength, and besides, what could he do anyway?
>Maybe Trisha and Trucker...  He tells her that sometimes people
>get sick and even die, and no one's to blame [Sarah...]  Dinah
                                               ^^^^^
ooooooooops!  Make that Ceara!  It's funny how easy it is to
forget...

--Laura Holst
E-mail:  holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov  Decnet:  XEN::HOLST
S-Mail:  NASA/Ames Research Center  MS 219-1
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From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon)
Subject: Re: DOOL - TAN: My NFL Playoff Predictions
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:29:37 GMT

In article <93004.115518IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET> <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>Nelson writes:
>>>>
>>>> And remember...you can trust ;) these picks!
>>>>
>Yeah right!
>
>>>> HOUse of Lame versus Buffalo Chips
>>>> **********************************

Well, I was one of the first to respond to Nelson's picks, my picks went in
exact opposite to Nelson's, I managed to go 3-1, the only loss was my
Vikings, but even if wasn't a fan I would've picked 'em anyway.

I'll get my picks for this week out first:

Eagles vs Cowboys -- This is going to be a real hard hitting game, as I said
                     before the Eagles are about as hot as you can get.
                     I really question Aikman's ability to handle the Eagles
                     defense. Unless Emmett Smith has a super game, I think
                     the boys are going to come a little short.

Eagles 31 Cowboys 21



Redskins vs 49'ers-- Great effort against the Vikings gives the skins a real
                     chance.. But they'll face a real QB in Steve Young this
                     week who will pick them apart if they try to blitz him.
                     I think the 49'ers have too much offense for the skins
                     and with the skins offense hurting, they won't be able 
                     score enough. Lowmiller won't be as good on Natural grass.

Niners 28 skins 17



Chargers vs Dolphins -- All the pointers except for defense come down on 
                        Miami's side. I don't know why, but I just feel the
                        Chargers are the team of destiny. I think they will
                        find a way to win.

Chargers 17 Dolphins 14





Bills vs Steelers -- Bills engineered the comeback of the century against the
                     Oilers. But that's history, and I expect a letdown in
                     Pittsburgh, especially if they don't score early.
                     Defense wins Championships and I think the Bills are just
                     too banged up on both sides of the ball. The bills will
                     be valiant, but the Steelers are a totally different team
                     with QB O'donnel who is supposed to start.

Steelers 26 Bills 20


Well there they are, we'll see how I do. I wouldn't mind going 3-1 again.

--------------------------------------------
J.R. Ordon
A Vikings Fan .. we'll get'em next year