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From: sean@coombs.anu.edu.au (Sean Sebastian Batt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: How does 'mediainit -G' (guru mode :-) work?
Date: 17 Dec 92 06:44:38 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
Summary: looking for info on how mediainit guru mode works
Keywords: mediainit, guru mode, unsupported!

Colleagues,

I'd like to reformat one of my 3rd party discs to 1024 bytes per
sector from the factory default of 512.

I've poked around in mediainit(1m) and discovered the -G flag which
produces the following message:

	WARNING:  You have invoked guru mode, a mode requiring
	extensive device command  set  knowledge  in order to
	properly  respond to prompts that follow, and from which you
	could seriously  compromise  device integrity by responding
	improperly.  Are you SURE? (y/n)

Well, I wasn't sure...

I'll have the command set tomorrow, so I'd like to know if anyone has
used guru mode and can give me a bit of a rundown?

I realise using such a command on a 3rd party disc is TOTALLY
UNSUPPORTED, but I'm willing to give it a try.

Thanks in advance!

Sean Batt

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jsweet@irvine.com (Jerry Sweet)
Subject: HP HIL, audio, & video extensions
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:04:09 GMT

After a titanic, brain hemmorhaging effort, I finally got someone to
admit to the existence of some kind of console extender for HP
9000/{3,4,7}00 systems.  No one understood what I meant until I used
the magic phrase "HIL extension".

There's even an HP part number for it!  The problem is, I can't tell
for *sure* what the heck it is I might be buying.

Can anyone tell me what comes with an HP 46082B "30 meter remote
extension with audio and RGB video cables"?  It's under the heading of
HP-HIL Cables and Extensions.  Is this just cabling?  Or does it come
with some kind of video driver box?  (That's sort of implied by the
fact that you can delete remote and RGB cables, but who really knows?)

Help!
From: daves@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com (Dave Serisky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: TIOCCONS ioctl call?
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:08:12 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

In article <1992Dec10.221640.24187@netcom.com>, ocsinc@netcom.com (Operations Control Systems) writes:
|> I wrote a program which opens a master/slave pty pair, and uses TIOCCONS
|> to set the slave to the console.  Reading from the master works, as
|> anything sent to the console is intercepted.  Anything written to the master
|> is lost.  I assume it is supposed to go to the shell process running
|> on the console.  ...

The ioctl was redefined at some release to only redirect console output.
Console input is not redirected.  The objective of the ioctl was to
allow the presentation of data (console messages) that would normally
get written to the ITE associated with the X server and (depending on
the OS and hardware) either not show up at all until the X server was
terminated, or would step on top of the X server's bitmap (in which case
generally neither the X server nor the console data was readable).
Another objective was not to allow the ioctl to be used to take over the
console device (hence the readonly nature of it and the fact that you
need to be running suid root to use it).

|>             ...  I have two questions:
|> 	1.  How to send to the "real" console without closing the pty
|> 	and interrupting the capture?

What I've always done on the series 400 was to create a /dev/ite that
was aimed at the ite device (major dev the one used for serial devices,
minor dev 0 (on the s400)).  I then ran my getty against it.  In this
instance, I could access the ite (bitmap) via /dev/ite and since it was
the default system console, output to /dev/console would be fired to it.
When another serial device executed a TIOCCONS ioctl, output to
/dev/console would be sent to that device and output directed to
/dev/ite (i.e., something run from the getty) would continue to go to
the ite.  I'm not sure what the behaviour is on the 700, but I suspect
that the functionality is there as well.

|> 	2.  How to send to the shell process on the console?
|> I am running on a HP9000/817 under HP/UX 8.0

You go to the console device and type the characters at the keyboard.
This does assume that your X server has not taken over the console's
keyboard.

|> 		thanx,
|> ----
|> Robert Diamond, OCS		(415) 493-4122
|> 560 San Antonio Rd #106		netcom!sputnik!rob

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   email - daves@cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: fish@daacdev1.stx.com
Subject: what would cause a memory fault using the "w" command???
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:01:13 GMT

i get a mem fault when using "w" - here is the output
every thing else seems to be running just fine

$ w
 10:59am  up 5 days,  7:05,  22 users,  load average: 1.34, 1.40, 1.32
 User     tty           login@  idle   JCPU   PCPU  what
 Memory fault

		thanx,
			fish
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: HP Apollo 9000 Series 715/33, 715/50
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:17:36 GMT
Reply-To: greg_cagle@mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <1992Dec15.234730.9752@leland.Stanford.EDU>, alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson) writes:
>
>There is one other difference that may be critical for some people:  The /33
>maxes out at 48M, the /50 at 64M.
>-- 

Do you mean RAM? To my knowledge the /33 is capable of 192M, and the
/50 is capable of 256M (of RAM).

Other differences include a standard EISA slot on the /50 (optional
on the /33), and the 15" color is only on the /33.

-- Greg
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From: airhart@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP's Advancelink as console 3000/37???
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:35:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: lub001.1992Dec10.233515.1845
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

Help!

I finally have a full package of HP's Advancelink (ver A.05.02 ?) MS-DOS.
BUT, I am having trouble setting the correct parameters. We are trying
to use it as a system console for an 3000/37.
Can this be done, and if so, what are the parameters?
I am soooooooo close to having this running.
Thanks in advance!
M.A. 
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From: mark@hpsanaeo.nsr.hp.com (Mark Bonsack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Solution to the high speed modem prob.
Date: 17 Dec 1992 05:05:03 GMT
Organization: HP Neely Sales Region, San Diego
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mark@hpsanaeo.nsr.hp.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsanaeo.nsr.hp.com
Keywords: modem

> I tried
> to get the hp to talk to the modem at 57600 buad, but couldn't do it.
> If anyone knows how to get that to work let me know!

There's no reason the port on the s700 shouldn't work at that speed.  Make
sure your modem is set to talk at that speed, and your gettydefs and inittab
are changed accordingly.  (The s700 ports are supported up to something
around 400,000 baud!)

-- 
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Hewlett Packard, San Diego
(619) 541-7319
internet: mark@hpsanaeo.nsr.hp.com
From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: problems with setjmp(3C),longjmp(3C)
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:15:20
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.116
In-reply-to: achter@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE's message of Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:15:23 GMT

achter@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Sven Achter) writes:

> What registers are stored in what order in jmp_buf ?

This structure should work for PA-RISC chips running HP-UX 8.07:

struct jump_buffer {
	int	rp;		/* Return Pointer */
	int	sp;		/* Marker SP */
	int	sm;		/* Signal Mask */
	int	os;		/* On Sigstack */
	int	gr3;		/* Entry Save General Registers */
	int	gr4;
	int	gr5;
	int	gr6;
	int	gr7;
	int	gr8;
	int	gr9;
	int	gr10;
	int	gr11;
	int	gr12;
	int	gr13;
	int	gr14;
	int	gr15;
	int	gr16;
	int	gr17;
	int	gr18;
	int	gr19;
	int	sr3;		/* Entry Save Space Register */
	double	fr12;		/* Entry Save Floating Point Registers */
	double	fr13;
	double	fr14;
	double	fr15;
	int	save;		/* Restore Mask? (see sigsetjmp/siglongjmp) */
	int     align;		/* alignment hole */
	double	fr16;
	double	fr17;
	double	fr18;
	double	fr19;
	double	fr20;
	double	fr21;
	int 	rp_prime;	/* RP' from frame marker */
	int 	ext_dp;		/* external_dp from frame marker */
};
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: feather@cup.hp.com (Frank Feather)
Subject: Re: LOG00XX ans Spacct1.XXXX files. What are they?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:44:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Pierre Mathieu (mathieu@geod.emr.ca) wrote:
: I noticed recently that there were a lot of LOG00XX and Spacct1.XXXX
: files taking up space in the /usr/adm directory. 

The files LOGnnnn are log files for the Hardware diagnostic system, 'sysdiag'. 
A new log file is created upon reboot.  These are primariliy used by field
service people, though you can safely remove old versions of these files.
You might, however, want to check the contents for errors messages before
deleting (run 'sysdiag' and the 'logtool' option to view a log file).

I'm not sure what is in Spacct1.
From: hstroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Howard Stroyan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Change console on 750
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:56:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcso.7371501
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In comp.sys.hp, klb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Kent Barnes) writes:

> To change back from rs-232 console to graphics:
> 
>     - Power up 350
		But what about a 750?  :-)
		(its the same)

>     - Hold escape to abort boot process when prompted to do so
>     - Select "a" from the list of actions, this puts you in boot admin
>       (From the BOOT_ADMIN> prompt you can type "help" or "?" if you want)
>     - Type the following at the BOOT_ADMIN prompt:
>       BOOT_ADMIN> path console graphics
>       BOOT_ADMIN> reset (this puts you back to power on state) 

This is part of the process.

While your in BOOT_ADMIN you also need to change the 
"keyboard path" to "hil".

You can find a description of this in the "Installing Peripherals" manual,
assuming we sent you one :-).

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User Interface Technology Division
From: hurf@boa.graphics.cornell.edu (Hurf Sheldon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Building HP Kernals
Date: 16 Dec 1992 15:36:47 GMT
Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: boa.graphics.cornell.edu

In article <1992Dec16.015005.1043@nb.rockwell.com>, lccha@nb.rockwell.com (Lloyd C. Cha) writes:
|> A question for HP Kernal hackers:
|> 
|> I am trying to modify several parameters in our HP-UX 8.07 kernal running on
|> HP 9000 series 730 machines.  Specifically, the parameters NPROC and MAXFILES.
|> The procedure I have been following is:
|> 
|>    1) make the changes in the #define statements of the conf.c file
|>       in /etc/conf
|> 
|>       so I have:   #define NPROC    (20+8*MAXUSERS+(NGCSP))*3
|>                    #define MAXFILES 256
|> 
|>    2) execute make -f config.mk in the same directory.
|> 
|> The conf.o file gets rebuilt, as does the hp-ux kernal.  However, when I
|> examine the kernal using SAM after rebooting, I find that the nproc value
|> still has the incorrect value.  I was not able to locate the MAXFILES parameter
|> within SAM (does anyone have a way of checking the value of this by reading
|> the kernal?), but I think that also was not set.

I have found that some kernal parameters will not change unless changed in /etc/master.
Sam ususlly reports the correct kernal parameter value - adb will report
incorrectly large values to kernal parameters under 8.07 (why?) as will monitor. 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.admin
From: schneck@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernhard Schneck)
Subject: Re: non-root mount
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:18:32 GMT

brent@spss.com (Brent Lambert) writes:

>A more secure alternative is to use sudo or a similar tool to selectively
>allow root permissions for specific commands and users.

You can make the joe user mount command as secure as you want, you'll
open a big security hole by allowing mounts of (user provided) unix
filesystems on most machines.

The mntdisk package (posted some time ago to c.s.m) helps there ...

\Bernhard.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jk@unison.com (Joseph Konton)
Subject: Summary of Need Restricted FTP
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:01:58 GMT
Organization: Unison-Tymlabs
Keywords: Restricted FTP

My thanks to every one that responeded.

We've decided to go with the recommendation from Allyn Fratkin that
was posted by him.

This involved taking advantage of the fact that an anonymous ftp has
its own /etc/passwd file within the ~ftp directory.

We've been able to set things up so that a user first logs in anonymously
and then must use the "USER" command to change to their assigned ftp id.

While accessing as anonymous, they are allowed no access to files.

After switching to their assigned user-id, they are in the home
directory setup in ~ftp/etc/passwd.  The permissions for the directory
allow access only to there user-id, and they have no access to any other
directory setup for a user.

Because they initially logged in anonymously, they have been chrooted to
the ~ftp directory and can not access other directories above the
~ftp directory.

Several other people suggested downloading FTPD source code from
wuarchive, which allows settting up classes of ftp access.

And Don Huan-Miguel responded saying that there is a restrictable version
of ftp at ftp.csc.liv.ac.uk

Once again thanks,


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dpayton@qcinet.Gwinnett.COM (Doug Payton)
Subject: HP-UX vs. High-Speed modems
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:36:15 GMT
Organization: Quality Consultants, Inc.

The current winner in the battle between HP-UX and the high-speed modem
we bought is:  HP-UX.  That is to say, we still have the 827, we sold
the modem.

And the used T2500 option is no longer.

So now we're back to square 1.  My question now is far simpler.

Does anyone have a high-speed modem (14.4K) for <$300 working on a uucp
connection on a Nova box sans hardware flow control?  

Is this possible?

Thanks!
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From: acslp@jetson.uh.edu (M M Uddin (Pablo) acslp@jetson.uh.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Looking for an HP alternative to a SUN SPARCserver 10 model 30
Date: 11 Dec 1992 16:46 CST
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Dear Netters: 

	We will be purchasing some mid-range workstations for our department.
There seems to be a slight bias towards SUN products here. I would like to 
see some specs on comparable HP workstations like the HP 9000/720. 

The specifications I would see most are: 

	Processor speed (MHz)
		-integer unit 
		-floating point unit

	Processor performance (MIPS)
		-integer
		-floating point 

	Processor SPECmarks 
		-SPEC92


	Maximum main memory (Mbytes)

	System Bus
		-peak bandwidth
		-address bus width
		-data bus width
		-expansion slots
		
Thanks for any assistance

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From: urle@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Uli Betzler (urle))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: non-root mount
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:09:01 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: urle.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

In article <BzCsyy.KBx@rivm.nl>, derko@rivm.nl (derko drukker z-09) writes:
|> Hello,
|> 
|> Does anyone know how to have non-root users use the mount command
|> as more and more users have their own cd-rom connected to their
|> workstation ?

You can use my version of amd-5.3, it uses time-outs for cdfs and unmounts
cdroms automatically. But beware, sometimes bad cdroms can crash your system!

You find it at ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de@/pub/hp-ux/amd-5.3.tar.Z

urle


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From: hstroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Howard Stroyan)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:18:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Scrollbars with Hpterms
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, ken@studsvik.com (Ken Rempe) writes:

>  How do you get scrollbars on Hpterms?

Use the "-sb" option.

You can also user the "-sl" option to increase the size of the
scroll buffer (the default is 2x the hpterms height).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jxt@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (TOLLIVER J S)
Subject: Re: C++ Templates
Reply-To: jxt@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (TOLLIVER J S)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:45:54 GMT

The current version of HP C++ is at the C++ 3.0 level -- i.e., it supports
templates.
From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: How to print ascii on a Postscript printer?
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:57:31 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc

I would pick up nenscript (from GNU sources).  It has all the same 
functionality of enscript, works well and builds cleanly on HPUX.

Otherwise, if you have HPUX 8.07 or later, there is a small postscript
wrapper (model) that will convert a file to postscript if is isnt already
(tested via the file(1) command).

stuart
From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Problem with hp laser II
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:51:37 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc

In article <17491@umd5.umd.edu>, mark@roissy.umd.edu (Mark Sienkiewicz) writes:

|> 
|> I've seen this is lots of SYSV based machines-- they all seem to have
|> this problem, but this solution looks like a quick hack that covers over
|> some other problem.  
|> 
|> It looks to me like the real problem is that the XXclose routine for the
|> terminal is changing the baud rate BEFORE the output is drained.  If the
|> close() system call would block until the output queue drained, and THEN
|> set the baud rate back to the default, everything would work correctly,
|> right?
|> 


Well, that would be true if a single process was sending data to the printer.
But SYSV print spooling is a conglomeration of shell scripts, with a cat
somewhere in the middle.  If a program were responsible to get the file,
set up the printer and send the data, the close() would work.  But if
you have a script that:

echo "some control char's to setup the printer"
cat file
echo "some more control char's"

It's hard not to get the 300baud spikes.

The cat in the middle does wait for a drain on close, but the shell scripts
arent really written to maintain constant baud.  I suppose they could be...

stuart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: hblim@iti.gov.sg (Hock-Beng Lim)
Subject: X11perf results for HP 700 series needed
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:55:29 GMT


Hi !

I would like to have the full set of results of the x11perf (ver 1.3) 
benchmarks for the HP 700 series workstations (any of Models 720/730/etc).
If you have it, I'll be very grateful if you could send it to me by email.

Thanks in advance !

HB
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From: field@rwja.umdnj.edu (Robert Field)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions
Subject: finger source code
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:15:28 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Distribution: comp
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

Looking for finger source code for a HP 9000/800 series running HP-UX 8.0
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please email responses directly to field@umdnj.edu.  Thanks a bunch.

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From: davidb@hpuadla.aus.hp.com (David Booth)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:24:06 GMT
Subject: Re: PPP or SLIP for HP 9000/7xx ?
Organization: Adelaide, Australia, Smallest HP DownUnder