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Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Hw strng shld an avalbl jwsh man be?
From: <H97SI@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 10 Jan 1993 23:32:35 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

hello  does this topic make sense?
are there any young jewish ladies (in the new york area)
looking for a young jewish male (i turned 28 yesterday)

want to know more  i'll be glad to answer all  :) mike
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: Meeting guys
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 08:08:53 GMT

In article 21p@mach1.wlu.ca, macl6441@mach1.wlu.ca (macleod heather) writes:

>I've been reading a lot lately here about how men should go about meeting
>women, but nobody seems to be giving many suggestions on how women can meet
>men.  I ended a four year relationship a month ago, and I'm ready to meet
>someone new, but I'm not really comfortable with the bar scene.  There are
>guys in some of my classes, but I'm pretty shy.  Can someone give me some
>advice?

Girl, You just won the prize!

No doubt you have posted to soc.singles instead of soc.penpals....
In other words, there is hope for you yet. 

The prize?

At least 60,000 single men (possibly more) have the opportunity to read
the little thing you posted. By now, your mailbox is overflowing and your
system admins will be after you to clean it out because it wastes GigaBytes
of precious disc space.

Not only that, but as a bonus YOU, yes YOU, have the exclusive choice of
which men to flirt with using email. You can be a WildTease by doing this!

If they are crass a***o*es like EddieBaby, then you can just not answer them.
Ain't that a thrill? All those TestosteroneDrippingMachoStudlyManlyRealMen
who move furniture, drink cheap whiskey, never wash, and look through telescopes
into innocent ISObabes' dormrooms want YOU because YOU posted here! </.Q
                                                                        \
                                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have a big, black limo just waiting to pick YOU up at the Victoria BC
Airport. Temptress, just tell me when you're arriving and we'll do HighTea at 
the Empress Hotel, Wot.

dreasmeister                                                          





Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men
From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Re: Duck and Jive (was Re: Pre-Sex Contract )
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:48:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.205345.19622@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
)In article <1993Jan5.073507.5214@netcom.com> oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:
)>In article <1993Jan4.114503.5203@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
)>>I haven't actually seen any *references* for the percentage of unmarried
)>>mothers who do not name the father quoted with verifiable sources, though.
)>
)>"I have no data to base this assrtion on -- but I know it's true!"
)
)	One point worth noting: naming the father and pursuing a claim
)of child support is a precondition for receiving family aid in every
)state in the union (federal law). This being the case, I would think
)naming the father to be the rule rather than the exception.
)
)						Kayembee

Here's my understanding of the situation.

When the woman names the father, she gets child support from the father, and
can choose to give this up in reuturn for for AFDC (usually because he won't
pay.).

When this happens, the State goes after the father for the money.  (The full
amount, BTW, not just the AFDC award).   When she doesn't name the father she
still gets support of some sort (we don't cut her off entirely and leave her
and the kid to starve), but it's called something else.  General assistance? 
I think it's commonly called 'welfare' don't know the bureaucrateese. 
'Families' get welfare - individuals don't.  [Maybe it's just single-parent
'families', not sure - but it's definitely  not individuals.]

As I mentioned previously, the figures in Statistical Abstracts clearly
show that unmarried single mothers rarely are awarded support.  (This
isn't difficulty in collecting so has nothing to do with so-called 'deadbeat
dads', this is simply getting an award).  This is in spite of the state
volunteering to foot the bill for her to pursue the father in court.

Conclusion - single unwed mothers don't name the fathers often, which is
where this all started out (way back when).

As a secondary point, the rates of 'living in poverty' are not all that
different between single parents who are awarded support and those who
are not.  There is *some* difference, but it is *very* clear that even
if every so-called-deadbeat-dad paid his bill, we would *still* have a
*large* problem with lots of poor single unwed mothers.  So a lot of the
'deadbeat-dad' bashing frenzy is misplaced [IMO].

Corrections and discussion are welcome, but I've had my fill of
hairy-chest-banging-flaming-insults for awhile.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: rON bashing
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:52:35 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <MARTINC.93Jan8115550@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.041742.11530@panix.com> sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
|
|   Gee, you gave up even before I had to bring up the Model 33 running at
|   110 baud; that also has the advantage of being so noisy that you can't
|   sleep anywhere near it.
|
|   Seth		[and I remember when that was considered _good_]
|
|It's hell getting old, isn't it?

Sure is.

-John "another former Model 33 owner" Fereira
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:19:55 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <TJG01.93Jan5161639@thdhub.HomeDepot.COM> tjg01@thdhub.HomeDepot.COM (Terry Gardner) writes:
>In article <4362@novavax.UUCP> bramson@novavax.UUCP (Jennifer Bramson) writes:
|   markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
|
|   >In article <oneil.725199192@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
|   >blandness.  Three, women are the only ones I ever hear referring to her as
|   >attractive, which just goes to prove that you really have to be a man to know
|   >what turns on a man.
|
|   Which is????????????????????????
|
|   Jennifer Bramson
|   Center for Psychological Studies
|              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^          don't answer it! it's a trap! :-/

I thought Jennifer Bramson was the answer to the question.

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rjf@lincroftnj.ncr.com (51351[efw]-Robert Feddeler(MT4799)T343)
Subject: Re: Meeting women in clubs
Organization: AT&T/NCR, Lincroft, NJ, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:32:13 GMT

In article <thurlow.726383753@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>
>Bob, if you think the Romans had anything to do with naming the days
>of the week, I have some bad news for you about Tiw's-day, Woden's-day
>and Fria's-day (as well as Thonar's-day, according to the Brittanica :-)
>


Okay, I learned something today.  Does that mean I can go home now?

I never would have guessed that a day of the week would be named
after a technique used to locate thubmarineth!


bob.
Xref: sparky soc.singles:36201 ba.singles:3094
From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Colorado/Silicon Valley  (Was: Re: Timeless beauty)
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:44:12 GMT
Organization: The Island of Unwanted Toys

In article <1993Jan10.030039.27117@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>     I spent a week in Colorado from Dec 21 to Dec 27 with my family in
>the mountains in a town, about 8,000 feet high, called Grand Lake and in a
>suburb of Denver, Aurora.

Is Aurora a new state?  Did Denver, Aspen, and Boulder secede and form a
new, Amendment-Two-free state?      [-:

>     My major observation is that the people in Colorado are a lot friendlier
>and helpful than the people here in Silicon Valley.  Some examples should
>suffice.  On a walk, in Grand Lake, some people in cars waved to me
>and I waved back.  When I snowmobiled, I overturned a couple of times.
>After the first time some strangers helped me get my snowmobile turned
>upright and asked whether I was all right.  Later on, at the foot of a
>of a steep hill, I noticed that a stranger and my step-brother got stuck.
>I had a choice with helping them or going up a different path.  I chose
>to help them get their snowmobiles unstuck.

I spent a few days in a small Montana town and had the same reaction.

Then, I thought: how much of this do I practice back at home on a daily
basis?  Is *my* attitude really the same back at home?  What would happen
if I practiced a little proactive friendliness back home?

Turns out there were a LOT of little "friendliness opportunities" I was
ignoring day-to-day back here.

How much do *you* practice of this back home, hmmmmmm?

>     My secondary observation is that the snow-covered mountains are
>very, very beautiful.

Hey, the Sierra ain't bad, either.

>     P.S.  Are there any places in the Sierra Nevada that rent
>           snowmobiles?

Nah, nobody rents here, people are too rude... you gotta STEAL 'em.  
Get them before they get you, I say.


>    Reggie elected into Hall of Fame!    +---------------------------------+

Yeah, and he hit over .300 what, once in his career?  Funny what the press
can do for ya...  of course, he chose the jersey of the team that PAID him
the most.

A's in 1993:  Fourth place.  You heard it here first.


--
Alan Denney      aland@informix.com      {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland

"What's the use of somebody who doesn't wonder?  It's the hallmark
 of our species that we are continually wondering what is going on."
                            -  John Dobson, S.F. Sidewalk Astronomers
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: Mongrel Ethnic Purity (had stopped  be
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 03:15:56 GMT

In article 20260@netcom.com, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.034452.9038@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>>In article 1ih99pINN5qc@mirror.digex.com, huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>>
>>>Well, each and every one of us is descended from a long line of microscopic
>>>tadpoles, all of whom were champion swimmers.  (Apologies to Kurt Vonnegut,
>>>Jr.)
>>
>>Hey? No Losers? In that case, how can we explain some of those who post here?
>
>You wouldn't exactly expect the champion sprinter from your local
>elementary school to go up against Carl Lewis, would you?

9.3

dreas

Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
From: carl@sscl.uwo.ca (Carl Kaufmann)
Subject: Re: Meeting guys
Organization: Soc.Sci.Comp.Lab., U.West.Ont.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:24:57 GMT

In article <C0ELDC.21p@mach1.wlu.ca>, macl6441@mach1.wlu.ca (macleod heather) writes:
> I've been reading a lot lately here about how men should go about meeting
> women, but nobody seems to be giving many suggestions on how women can meet
> men.  I ended a four year relationship a month ago, and I'm ready to meet
> someone new, but I'm not really comfortable with the bar scene.  There are
> guys in some of my classes, but I'm pretty shy.  Can someone give me some
> advice?
> Thanks!!

Well Heather, there's always alt.personals.*.  It worked for me (in a bizarre
kind of way) and I know that it has worked for at least one person at Laurier.
In fact I may be seeing her this weekend. :-)

*****************************************************************************
* See how the heart reaches *  Carl Kaufmann   * No one has to do anything, *
* out instinctively, for no * Soc.Sci.Comp.Lab * except bear consequences.  *
* reason but to touch.      *    U.West.Ont    *                            *
*       -Kate Bush          * carl@sscl.uwo.ca *       -Me                  *
*****************************************************************************
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Pickup Lines (and likely responses)
Keywords: go get bent..
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:51:15 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan7.200417.20774@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>In article <C0Huvs.6xr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois) writes:
|>
|>Top 25 Pickup Lines 
|
| ... and responses one might expect:
|>
|>1)  Hi.
|
|Not any more, it wore off after the buffet.  Bye!
|
||2)  If I could change the alphabet, I'd put U and I together.
|
|But then they'd have to rearrange the encyclopedia and what would that
|geeky kid in the Brittanica commercials do?
 
What he's already doing.  He now does commercials for Burger King.  Have
you ever seen the Brittanica Encyclopedia guy and the Burger King guy at
the same time?  Coincidence?  I think not.

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:54:27 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


In <MARTINC.93Jan11095834@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>Look, schmuck, first of all, this doesn't follow UNLESS (a) the energy
>and dedication used for developing one's mind and one's body are the
>*same* thing; 

Yes, Charlie, the energy used to develop the body and the
energy used to develop the mind are exactly the same thing.
In both cases, they are chemical energy derived from the ATP
cycle.  Since you constantly brag about how many med-school 
courses you've taken, you should at least have a passing
acquaintance with high-school biology. 


>(b) the quantity of energy and dedication are so great
>that it can't be expended in all one's waking hours.  

That doesn't following at all.  The claim was that the
limiting factors were energy and dedication, not the
number of waking hours. Do try to pay attention, Charlie.

Furthermore, extremely dedicated people (e.g., Thomas Alva Edison) 
often find themselves sleeping less than ordinary people,
so it is possible to have more dedication than waking hours.


>If you're really spending *every* *waking* *minute* on improving your mind,
>or at least find that getting time to eat and shit interferes with the
>time you spend improving you mind, you might have a case.  

Either that or athletes cannot give up eating, excreting,
etc. to find more time for exercise.  Something else they 
forgot to teach you in medical school -- athletes also need
to eat, egest. etc.  (Although, I'm sure they did teach
you that when athletes egest, it doesn't stink.)  To find
time to exercise, the things they give up must be things are
not necessary to supporting life. 

Furthermore, eating, egestion, etc., are not ordinarily so painful 
that they prevent conversation or contemplation from taking place
simulatenously.  They do not leave you so short of breathe that 
conversation is impossible.  And if your diet doesn't consist
entirely of tofu, bean sprouts, and "ultra fuel," eating itself 
*can* be an intellectually rewarding experience.


>And second, you seem to compusively bring this up every so often.  I
>already know you're incapable of hearing or understanding anything that
>challenges your defensive obsessions.  I'm not interested.  Why are you
>bothering? 

What's the matter, Charlie, did Dr. Feelgood reduce the voltage
on you?
From: pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Oh God, they're back....
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:24:44 GMT
Organization: Internet Refugee Camp

In the referenced article, tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest) writes:
>You should try...
>   
>   "Hey, would ya like to see my NeXT?"

Wouldn't work on me.  I've got 900 of the damn things myself.

Pooh
	pooh@apple.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: How strong...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:54:15 GMT

In article <phantasm.726174793@vincent1.iastate.edu> phantasm@iastate.edu () writes:
>Out of the eater came forth meat, and out of the strong came forth sweetness...
>
>Stef Jones writes:
>
>> Strong enough to tie me at arm-wrestling.
>>
>> Matt Valentine writes:
>>> How about strong enough to wrestle you and tie you!!
>>
>> And Larry Margolis writes:
>>> Tie you?  What about beat you?  (Or does that come after he ties you?)
>>
>> I think those would be considerably easier. I tend to assist, if not
>> encourage....
>
>Temptress...
>
>`You oughtn't to yield to temptation.'
>`Well, somebody must, or the thing becomes absurd.'
>
>I liked Try Softer...
>
>Until again...
>
>phantasm
>
 
Gobbledegoop...
 
'Ickdenshplitnen.'
 
'Horseradish.'
 
I liked snorpenstine...
 
Forever more...
 
Walla walla bing bang

 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Oh God, they're back....
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:42:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan04.100158.11917@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.112758.13385@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>>
>>"want to come up to my terminal room and
>>see the neat new cobol program I am writing?"
>
>COBOL????
>
>drieux, drieux, drieux, drieux, drieux...
>
>C, certainly. I once picked up a guy by demonstrating some
>clever C work.  A former coworker has told me that he started
>to be attracted to me while I was explaining the MS-DOS FAT
>file system. But COBOL?? Not wishing to offend the memory
>of GMH, but, this is truely amazing. COBOL????

Oh, come now.  Wouldn't you be the least bit interested if someone
wanted you to see their spanking-new OODBMS written in COBOL?  Just for
kicks?

And COBOL's certainly no worse than FORTRAN.  Didn't Microsoft just
release FORTRAN for Windows?  (Say, what *does* GMH's middle initial
stand for, anyway?)
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Virtual anniversary: 5 days ago
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: ISO Babes
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 02:00:33 GMT


Definition is the thing here. Some people define "babes" in terms
of physical characteristics as set down by some criteria either 
specified by the media or individual rules and regulations.

There is no international standard for "babes." I have met quite a 
few women in the last month and only about two of them didn't fit my
standards for "babedom." 

OK, so I'm a bit of a male slut, and if you were to call me that, I'd
reply with a sincere "Thank You."

ISOlinguals and ISOmetrics are fun with all "babes" *snork*

Being a babe is all in the attitude, not in ephemeral physical 
characteristix!

We all will grow older. The key to aging gracefully is to do it with 
attitude, and not with plastic surgery. Ladies, if you are or were a 
"babe" at twenty-five, and you don't change your attitude, you will 
remain a "babe" until your dying day.

All the women that I have met through this thing in the Golden State
have turned out to be babes. Thank you for being that way!

dreas           Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play?    -The Beatles



Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: Too Young 2B single
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:42:40 GMT

In article <1iihbuINNqiu@mirror.digex.com> alby@access.digex.com (Albatross) writes:
>
>Lemme
>tell ya, it's hard ta meet a girl that's single and in her 20's
>cause the one's I've run into all have boyfriends, or there FAT, or
>they look ugly...  Just can't win either way,and I'm they type of
>guy that wants a girl to love me, as well as show her off to people I know
>						Albatross
>					    alby@digex.com

Hoo boy are YOU in luck.  Have *you* come to the right place, indeedy.  You
sound like a kinda nice guy and everything so I think we can let you in on
this, right?  Sure, why not.  We have to ask for your TOTAL cooperation here
because this is a well-kept secret and if word gets out, well no telling what
might happen.

We have a catalog.  No, really we do.  Our selection is rich with the
fruitful gifts of The Mother and our nymphets are of the purest elements.
Our prices are reasonable, so reasonable that we can't offer them here.
You select the ripest, most select morsel that appeases your discriminating
palatte and simply call our 1-800 number.  Your Dream Nymph will be shipped
directly to you via UPS or other swift currior, wings afoot.

Operators are standing by.  Now, who's got that catalog?  Well I'll find it
but for now just send me large amounts of money in unmarked bills.
-- 
-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
Nance Colucci                                      att!ihlpl!colucci
"I'm a writer.  Be nice, or you'll wake up one day and be a story."
-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: lundy@bnr.ca (Lancelot)
Subject: Re: The P.C. word for "ethnically cleansed"
Keywords: Drieux, P.C., Dead
Reply-To: lundy@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:37:03 GMT


>Drieux asks for "Does anyone know the correct term for people
>who are ethnically cleaned?"
>
>I believe the PC word you are searching for is:  DEAD

The politically correct term for "ethnic cleansing" is "ethnic cleansing".

Everybody else calls it "genocide".

Politically correct labels usually try to put a cute, non threatening label
on something to which closer examination would revel to be much more sinister.

Regards

Lancelot.

The statements above reflect an individual's opinions, not a corporation's.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:36:30 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
 <1993Jan7.225814.20952@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 <ewright.726520511@convex.convex.com>
 <1993Jan8.222334.20157@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 <ewright.726726993@convex.convex.com>
 <MARTINC.93Jan11095834@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>
 <ewright.726774867@convex.convex.com>
 <MARTINC.93Jan11143112@grover.cs.unc.edu>

Theory time - Ed's lost his capacity to believe in the subjective (or,
more precisely, appears to have lost the ability to admit that he regards
anything subjective as valid).

Oooh - mind/body duality _and_ only the objective is real.

Hard to imagine a worse state of mind to be looking for a date in;
even 'they're all heartless bitches'/'they're all sex-crazed scum'
leaves some holes to see the Other as _people_ through.

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance