From: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Subject: Re: Way to go Commodore! Yeah...right.
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Reply-To: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:09:41 GMT

In article <35108@cbmvax.commodore.com>, daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
> In article <1992Sep12.222650.2394@microsoft.com> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
> >Glad to know my not yet paid for A3000 is an orphaned machine.

I hardly believe that new hardware with an outstandin OS could do anything
but increase support for the baseline machines.

> 
> Better buy a clue while you're paying for the A3000.  The A3000 is hardly
> "orphaned" just because it doesn't have the features that are in the new 
> machine, any more than the A600 is orphaned because it doesn't have the 
> features of the A3000.  
> 
> >Just who is going to develop software for the new AA chips?

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I know 3 commercial developers that have announced support for the AGA
chips, ASDG, NewHorizons, and Black Belt. Who wouldn't want to support the
new chip sets?

> 
> Why not support the AA chips?  We are, after all, talking about a computer.
> Programs can make simple decisions, like "let's do A if there are 4 bitplanes
> and B if there are 8", etc.  This kind of thing is done all the time on PCs
> and Macs.
> 
> >And what's the deal with the A600? And the A3000T/040? It makes
> >no sense at all! None! Two newly released machines that can't use
> >the new chips? 
> 
> You expect any new chip C= designs to plug in where the old ones lived?  Get
> used to disappointment.  You really should be flaming Motorola, though.  They
> have changed their bus interface four times so far (68000, 68020, 68030, and
> 68040) since the 680x0 family came out.  And that's just one chip, and a simple
> CPU at that.  
> 
> >Who's going to buy them? Especially the A600? 
> 

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I might very well buy a 600 or 500 to act as an edit controller hooked via
serial/parallel port to a Toaster. I always wanted to see if Showmaker lived
up to its claims.

> I imagine folks who can't afford $3000 or so for an A4000 might consider $500
> (or whatever) for an A600.  Not everyone who buys a Chevy gets a Corvette, some
> only want or need Chevettes.
> 
> >Ian "Huh? Say what?" Kennedy
> 
> Say what indeed.  
> 
> >/* The AA chips are here! Too bad they won't work in my A3000	*/
> >/* Once again C= screws its entire user base. Way To Go!	*/
> >/* Now I konw how the A1000 owners felt. Oh well.		*/
> 
> Yeah, if improving the system is screwing the user base, you all need to be
> screwed more often.  At least you can run the Amiga OS on the A1000, even 3.0.
                                                                       ^^^^^^^^^
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This is indeed very good news.

> A ROM conversion kit is all you need.  Try OS/2 or Windows 3.x on the original 
> IBM PC, or System 7 on the original Mac.  And consider where the Amiga market
> would be today if there hadn't been followons to the A1000.  I don't understand
> this extreme view I read now and than that says improving the _line_ of systems
> hurts anyone.  History has never borne this out.

*****************
BIG THANKS to "The crew that never rests". May you have many sleepless nights.
And, a BIG POX on all those whiners who can never be satisified.

> 
> -- 
> Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Cool Advanced High-End Systems You Can't See Yet)
>  "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
>              "We're not hitchhiking anymore, we're riding" -Ren Hoek

-- 
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