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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Nannites Vs Borg
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:29:55 EST

In article <Bxv70s.50s@news.ucs.mun.ca>
cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  ) writes:
 
>
>>>>I saw the episode 'Evolution' yesterday (we are way behind on TNG seasons)
>>>>and thought that the nannites (right spelling??) could be an effective
>>>>weapon against the Borg. Imagine if these mechanical viruses got onboard
>>>>the Borg ship! Hmm....any comments?
>>
>>>	I believe this was mentioned as a way a possible way of fighting
>>>the Borg in one of the "Best of Both Worlds" episodes.  However, it was
>>>ruled out as a possibility because it would take too long to make 'em or
>>>something.  So we may indeed see this weapon used against our favorite
>>>collective consciousness in a future show (continuity in TNG?! ...
>>>wierder things have happened!)
>>
>>Yes, perhaps, but I also believe that in the "Best of Both Worlds" it
>>was brought up that if we bred the Nannites to fight our wars for us,
>>what does that make us? It becomes a moral dilemma. If worse comes to
>>worse, I admit there would be little choice in the matter. However, I
>>don't think that would fit with Gene's style, which the writers have
>>vowed time and time again to uphold...
>
>I believe there was also a discussion of nanities in "Vendetta". There
>was definately discussions about the morality of using them in such a
>manner. I forget the exact text, but it is in there. They may have no
>other choice, but why do I get the funny feeling this still wouldn't
>stop the Borg.
>
 
   Why use the nanites themselves?  I believe in "Evolution", Wesley was
converting some medical nanites.  Why not adopt the existing "dumb" nanites
to eat up Borg machinery, and then let it self destruct if it detects no more
Borg material to eat?  It should only be a matter of adapting the existing
medical nanites to eat Borgs or Borg metals, and since these nanites are
more akin to bacteria and virus than living beings, it should be morally sound.
(On the other hand, Borgs could eventually come up with a good defense.)
   Perhaps a more interesting idea is:  Borg and "Smart" Nanites are both
COLLECTIVE consciences.  Nanites and Borgs may make a more natural allies than
Humans and Nanites.  Where would that leave the Feds?
 
************************************************************************
   "INSANITY IS A VIRTUALLY IMPREGNABLE GAMBIT...
BUT YOU HAVE TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK EARLY IN THE GAME..."
 
    JUNSOK YANG (YANJUNA@YALEVM.YCC.EDU)
From: neil@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Neil Green)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: SPOILERS!!New Episode
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:13:41 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In <1992Nov10.132219@ece.arizona.edu> evans@ece.arizona.edu writes:
>The last new episode was again a rehash of the old Star Trek.
>This one involves the holodeck, where Worf is sherrif and must
>fight off Data disguised in various other roles, and one of 
>them is female.  Similar plot to the old trek where
>Kirk, Spock,McCoy and Chekov are back in Tombstone to fight
>at the OK Corral.  REAL WEAK!!!!  Someone should inform the
>producers to get their own storyline and stop trying to 
>repackage the old ones.

Why do some people have to get so wound up about TNG episodes that
bear some passing resemblance to TOS episodes (and that's about all it
was really, a passing resemblance)?
And even if they do have more than a few similarities, so what? Can't
we just get on and enjoy watching them as good/bad/indifferent TNG
episodes?
--
Neil Green (neil@ccl.umist.ac.uk)
From: det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Points to Ponder: Fistful of Datas
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:51:34 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: phlan.sw.stratus.com


**SPOILER WARNING (please folks, let's try to remember these) **



In article <Bxtn26.BpA@mail.boi.hp.com> jgm@boi.hp.com (John McBride--in my own private Idaho) writes:
>Maybe he had been watching Rustlers Rapsody, a western parody with
>Tom Berenger.  In that movie, the good-guys never shoot anything except
>for the hands, and they never shoot other good-guys.

Of course, we're only ASSUMING that Worf wasn't aiming to drill him through
the heart, and didn't just get lucky!  On the other hand, if **I** was
a security chief and had been recently been embarrassed as Worf was in
"Rascals", I'd sure as hell sign up for intensive Remedial Marksmanship
sessions in the holodeck! ;-)



-- 
det@phlan.sw.stratus.com   |  "Laddie, you'll be needin' something to wash
                           |  that doon with."
From: xenon@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: HUGE HUMOR!!!!! (make more humor)
Date: 22 Nov 92 05:24:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1992Nov22.102403.2636
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <1992Nov22.020324.12214@bsu-ucs>, 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:

> Future show humor:

> A gay member of the Q comes (with a snap) to play with the cast!
> Oh what funny jokes could be made on this issue! 

I thought Q WAS gay.  The reason he doesn't try to make it with humans is that
he's not into bestiality... ;)

> 
> signed,
> 
> that one guy behind TROI'S HUGE BUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on, guys.. you all know Troi's butt is gorgeous.  I'll bet half the guys
on this net would sit on a block of ice for three hours with their pants down
for a chance to be with Troi.  So cut it out with the sour grapes already... ;)

- xenon
From: 00rrchorzemp@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving on stng READ! laugh! respond!
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:31:36 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Nov23.145346.12271@bsu-ucs>, 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
> Borg: we will take over your turkey! 

nonononono....
Borg:  We will Assimilate your Turkey.

> Q: More mortal fun! Pass the potato(e)s picard!
 
Snaps his fingers and everyone at the party ends up with mashed potatos on
their heads.. Picard has pea 'eyes' and a cooked carrot 'nose'stuck on as
well....
(are the potatoes burning?)

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From: ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: I need a schedule YESTERDAY!!! =)
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:57:29 GMT

			I'm doing scheduling for my campus's scifi group very
soon and I need to know the TNG and DSN schedules like, yesterday. Could
someone e-mail me the latest dates, including and especially the dates for
"Chain of Command I and II" since i've heard about 4 different times that it's
going to air in a 3-week period...

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Submissions (w/SASE)[]<--------- UpComing, The Magazine of Speculative Fiction
UpComing,Box 566,   []"He couldn't hit the broad side of an M-Class planet
Hampshire College,  [] with 10 photon torpedoes... he should be demoted 
Amherst,MA.,01002.  [] to janitor 3rd class..." - a net.wag, about Worf
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{[[ Inquiries about UpComing to jlmiller@hamp.hampshire.edu	
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: pad store appearance
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:29:04 EST

 -=> On 11-11-92  15:46, Peter A David babbled to All saying: <=-

 PAD> I have no immediate plans to come to Canada.  There was some talk
 PAD> about doing an appearance with Dale Keown up in Toronto, but when Dale
 PAD> quit "Hulk," that didn't seem worth pursuing.

Too bad...  Perhaps you would be interested in some kind of book signing
or something at the Eaton Centre here in downtown Toronto someday...
'Course it would always be nice if you came to my door and stopped to
say hi and watch some Trek...  :-)


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Jason Wong
Calling from Markham, Ontario CANADA.  It's not cold though!  :-)
INTERNET E-MAIL: bernie.wong@canrem.com


... You piloted well out of spacedock, Lieutenant.  Kirk
--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: RE: More Transporter Questions
Date: 22 Nov 92 04:06:12 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <216@io.trident.datasys.swri.edu> johns@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Stephen Johns) writes:
>I definately do not have the ST Tech Manual.  But, I do have some questions
>about the transporters.                                                e

I'd post about transporters here but this isn't rec.arts.startrek.tech.
Is there anyone out there who doesn't get .tech and wants me to mail
them the .tech FAQL?
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From: jmiller@afit.af.mil (Jeffrey C Miller)
Subject: Re: A Fistful of Datas best line
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:18:40 GMT

Some lines and a ^L 'cuz it looks like a spoiler....


























In article <92320.144712PAB7@psuvm.psu.edu> <PAB7@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>  Patrick Stewart saying convincingly and with a straight face "I'm really not
>much of an actor."  I was on the floor.

Second best (IMHO):  Riker storming into the briefing (ready?) room:
"Captain!  The replicators on decks xx to yy are only making CAT FOOD!"

Jeff

-- 
Jeff Miller,  NH6ZW/N8,  AFA1HE (ex WD6CQV, AFA8JM, AFA1DO)
AFIT School of Engineering, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH
"You gotta expect some losses when you fly the heavies, man" -- Jeff Conn
"No brain, no pain" -- filched from some new movie promo
From: robertc@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Robert Crowther)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: SPOILEReview: "The Quality of Life"
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:17:05 GMT
Reply-To: robertc@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Robert Crowther)
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

In article <1ems0pINNk00@agate.berkeley.edu> jsnell@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jason Snell) writes:
>Unfortunately, this argument drives me crazy. I don't
>see the parallel between this show and "Measure of a Man"
>as much as I see it with "Evolution" -- a bunch of little
>computerized things, relatively primative, are being
>weighed against human beings. And in my mind, human
>beings win. You don't swerve to miss a racoon on the
>road if there's a ravine next to the road, because if
>you've got to pick between you and the racoon, YOU win.
>In my opinion, anyway.
>
A stampeding elephant is unlikely to swerve to avoid some human that
appears in front of it.  Just because YOU think you're more important
doesn't mean you actually are.
From: morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: YOU'RE ALL MESSED
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:17:20 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1eoikaINN2ng@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, satch@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Victor Corbin) writes:

[various insults about people having various opinions deleted, along with
a few random obscene comments, well, R rated at least.]

Chill dude, relax, go with the flow, mellow out, and perhaps most of all, 
don't take everything so seriously.  If you can't do that, perhaps you 
should follow your own advice and

> 
> FLAMERS GO HOME 
> 

Technically you just did flame many people.....

Later

Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan

Floyd - back here he belongs - 28-13 (Minnesota over Iowa)
From: james@library.nrl.navy.mil (James King)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Request for "Ode to Spot"
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:47:40 GMT
Organization: NRL

Her you go!  Don't blow it all in one place.


                       Ode to Spot

Felus Catus.  Is your taxonomic nomenclature
an endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature?
Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses
contribute to your hunting skills and natural defenses.

I find myself intrigued by your sub vocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
that obviates your basic hedonistic predilection
for a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents.
You would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.
And when not being utilized to aid in locomotion,
it often serves to illustrate the state of your emotions.

Oh Spot, the complex levels of behaviour you display
connote a fairly well developed cognitive array.
And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,
I none the less consider you a true and valued friend.

From: W.O. Khan <Charles_Laine@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Subject: Re: ST:VII - Entertainment Weekly
Originator: jawiles@c00477-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:52:53 GMT


|> In article <BxvstM.KH0@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:
|> >The most recent Entertainment Weekly reported that Shatner is pitching
|> >a story for a Star Trek VII at Paramount and lobbying to direct it again.
|> >The story idea revolves around a falling out between Spock and Kirk and
|> >continues to follow their frustrations with each other throughout...
|> 
|> Cinemafantastique reported that Paramount rejected Shatner's idea
|> a while ago and that he wouldn't direct again.

WHEW!! THANK GOODNESS :)

|> 
|> The current rumor mill is that Nimoy has submitted a script idea
|> that has been sitting around at Paramount since the days of ST IV.
|> 

Oh lord!  Why can't we just end this gracefully ...

### jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu  PICARD/RIKER 96  ###
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From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Beards vs. Make-up
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:36:41 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <By5zs1.H4s@iai.kfk.de> seldner@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:

>That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
>hide something, they don't want to "show their face".

  Who told you this?   Why do you believe it?

  I have a beard because it takes less time and effort to maintain
  than shaving.  Instead of having to shave every day I just trim
  it once every two weeks.  


---peter


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From: cash@convex.com (Peter Cash)
Subject: Re: "A Fistful of Datas" review
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:26:09 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: The Instrumentality
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Nov15.3208.15456@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:

>Spoilers ahead!

...
>- I didn't like how the holodeck safeguards were turned off.  Again, the
>problem was with the data-retrieving system.  I think the safeguards
>would only be off if Data dealt with programs that had them off.
...
>Concept - 5.5.  I liked having Data rigged up to a computer but I
>didn't like how the Holodeck was so severely screwed up.  And of course,
>how the computer didn't respond...  Sigh...  The computer responded when
>Picard asked to indentify his music!

Of _course_ the holodeck got screwed up--that seems to be its main
function. In fact, I don't know why the darn thing hasn't been condemned by
the Federation equivalent of OSHA. So many ST episodes are centering around
the flaky holodeck that I'm getting the urge to shout, "Freeze program"
whenever things go wrong in (real) life. 
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
             |      Die Welt ist alles, was Zerfall ist.     |
Peter Cash   |       (apologies to Ludwig Wittgenstein)      |cash@convex.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Fistful of Datas: GREAT FUN!
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:05:42 GMT

In article <8709@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:

>Fistful of Datas was great fun!  It is destined to be
>one of my favorite episodes of either series! 

Agreed!

Spoilers:





>  When [Worf] put the hat on at the end and gave that
>grin (something else we never get to see) it was very
>refreshing.  And then when the Enterprise took off into
>the sunset....  a classic western ending!  


Worf with the hat and the Enterprise heading off into the sunset had
me *roaring*!  I was still laughing 5 minutes after the show had ended
and almost went back and watched it again immediately.  I'm sure this
is destined to be one of my favorites too.

I also liked that no one came to rescue Troi, Worf, and Alexander (who
was quite good in this one).  They had to figure out for themselves
how to get out, and Worf barely escaping from the female Data was
another great touch.

Wonderful episode!


--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: NOT NEW BUT... (The Drumhead)
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:40:14 GMT

In <tomcat.722142524@cwis> tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
>batemanc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Mad Chris) writes:
>>In 'The Drumhead' the rampaging ex-Admiral observes that Picard has
>>violated the Prime Directive nine times since becoming the captain
>>of the Enterprise. Does anyone know if this is accurate to the
>>episodes, or just a ball park figure? Do some episodes constitute more
>>than one violation (e.g. Pen Pals)?

>The number is accurate...here's a list of the episodes where he does"
>"Justice"
>"Angle One"
>"Pen Pals"
>"Up the Long Ladder"
>"The Ensigns of Command"
>"Who Watches the Watchers"
>"The High Ground"
>"Legacy"
>"First Contact"
>Then, General Order #1 was violated again in "The Masterpiece Society"...for
>a grand total of 10.

>This was from the List of Lists compiled by Mark Holtz.

I'm not sure how you can construe "The Ensigns Of Command", "The High Ground",
"Legacy" or "The Masterpiece Society" as violations of the Prime Directive,
since none involve primitive civilizations (which are, I believe, the only
sort that the Prime Directive applies to).  They might constitute some
violation of some OTHER Starfleet directive, but not the PRIME Directive.

(The the only conceivable violation of the PRIME directive I see in "Up The
Long Ladder" involves rescuing the pseudo-Irish folk from their doomed
world; certainly no PRIME Directive violations occurred on the other planet,
since that planet was by no means primitive.)

But then, we all know that the Prime Directive is a ludicrous rule anyway if
applied anywhere close to the letter.  (And, it appears, Starfleet is quite
cognizant of this fact, too, since neither Kirk nor Picard seemed to suffer
any serious repercussions due to their actions.)

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

    "What about you, Captain?" Krill asked.  "Do you seek death, or do you
run away from it?
    "Neither," Kiroth answered.  "Death seeks me.  It will find me in time.  
To run is simply a waste of energy.  To embrace death is sheer madness.  I 
await death.  When it comes, I will be ready."
    "To fight, or to flee?"
    Kiroth looked at his XO with barely contained horror.  "To die."
		- "Escape From The Holdfast", by Jim Hart; Captain's Log #8
From: bo@enterprise.umd.edu (Geoffrey S. Elbo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: STAR TREK:The Screen Savers
Keywords: TOS SCREEN Savers
Date: 22 Nov 92 11:09:30 GMT
Organization: Physics Business Network, University of Maryland

A description of 

Star Trek: The Screen Savers for Windows

Box Requiremtents: Windows 3.0 or higher
		   minimum 2MB RAM
		   VGA or better

From the people who gave you AFTER DARK, a set of screen savers
based on Star Trek:The Original Series.  This product runs without
AFTER DARK, but it can run all AD modules.

There are 15 different modules, plus a Randomizer, a Multimodule 
(which allows you to put more than one saver on the screen at
once), a Sounder module (plays WAV files) anda default night 
city skyline.

Sound is achieved through the internal Speaker, Windows Sound in 3.1
or Soundblaster in 3.0. 

Recommendations:
	All the sounds will play through the internal speaker, but they
 		are significantly better with a sound board.

	Run SMARTDRV with at least 256K minimum.  I added the line
		device=smartdrv.sys 2048 256
	   to my config.sys and the disk access light only lights when
 	   loading.  Before it was on all the time while a saver was
	   running.

	I found that running in 800x600 was the best video mode, for all
		except the Spock module.  Here you want to run it in 
		640x480 mode at least once to watch his expressions.




The Modules:
Brain Cells		From "Operation:Annihilate" the creatures 
			stick to screen.

Communications		A way to leave messages for others on the
			screen.  It dissolves and reappears at
			regular intervals.

Final Exam		A trivia game.

Final Frontier		Sort of like the opening credits.

Horta			The Horta drill while RedShirts explore.

Ion Storm		A stream of colorful lines.

Planetary Atlas		A picture and description of various planets
 			from the series.

Scotty's Files		A series of techinical diagrams of various
			pieces of equipment and ships.

Ship Panels		Different control panels (M5, food dispenser
			engineering, Spock's station)

Sickbay			The diagnostic panel of the beds in sickbay.
			Has comments from McCoy.

Space			A spot in universe where many ships come 
			together.

Spock			Spock appears in various places on the screen
			and does a variety of things.

The Mission		Kirk in his chair talking to various crew
			members.  Also see Scotty in the tunnels and
			the main viewer.

Tholian Web		The Tholians attempt to complete their web.

Tribbles		Tribbles multiply while the Klingons look on.

                    ___
       ___....-----'---`-----....___
 =========================================        Geoffrey S. Elbo
        ___`---..._______...---'___             bo@enterprise.umd.edu
       (___)      _|_|_|_      (___)
         \\____.-'_.---._`-.____//
          `~~~~`.__`---'__.'~~~~'
                   ~~~~~
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