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From: visnurpk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS/GCC/Emacs Question(s)
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi,

  Recently "re-installed" my whole system using the SLS package (great work!)
since I was still working with 0.95c+ and utilities I compiled.  Everything
went fine (except having to remove my 1542B to boot :-) and I compiled the
latest kernel w/o SCSI.  I then proceeded to try a few other things like
compiling ps for 0.97-4, and installing Emacs (disk 10).  I was unable to
compile ps and was unable to run Emacs... which leads me to the questions:

1) What version of GCC comes with SLS?  gcc -version gave me 2.2.2 w/o a 
   letter version (ie. "d").

2) I tryed to run emacs after "sysinstall"ing it, and it complained about
   not having an X11 library in /lib.  When did Emacs start to need an X11
   library?  Just curious since I don't have X on any of the UN*X boxes I
   work with (yet) and I do have Emacs.

3) Is SLS going to be upgraded to include the most current revisions of the
   compiler and libs + other stuff?  (No hurry, system works fine for me now)

  Using a "sysinstall" type utility is a very good idea I feel.  I've
managed UN*X (don't want AT&T to sue me...) systems before and it's nice
to have "control" over the packages you've added... even if it isn't as
fun.. :-)   Thanks for any help, and sorry to take up bandwidth if these are
too easliy answered.

-Rich

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: GNU date-1.7 dumps core 
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 09:37:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.073508.24697@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu (Douglas E. Quale) writes:
>When I saw reports here that date-1.7 dumps core because of a configuration
>problem involving conflicting definitions of tzname, I was surprised because
>I hadn't encountered that problem myself.
>
>But, it turns out that the problem shows up in strftime() and I had removed
>strftime.o from the objects to be made in lib/Makefile in order to create a

It just is one of the bugs in libc.a fixed in jump tabel 4.1. All the
testers are running shellutils 1.7 now.

>smaller binary.  You can also remove getopt.o, getopt1.o and a few other
>things.  If you don't feel like going to all this bother, Jim Weigand has
>already done it on his root disks.
>

All the bonuses you can get with jump table 4.1 are compiled with
getopt*.c and regex.c in libc.a. I just put the best in libc.a. No need
for anything else.

>BTW, the configuration problem has been reported on gnu.utils.bug as it
>occurred on another platform as well.

BTW, jump tabel 4.1 should be out this Sunday.


H.J.
From: juh@qt.IPA.FhG.de (Juergen Henke)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: lilo problems
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:15:57
Organization: Fraunhofer Inst. f. Manufact. Engineering a. Automation,
	Stuttgart, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: lazy.qt.ipa.fhg.de
In-reply-to: c-amb@math.utah.edu's message of Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:14:34 GMT

>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:14:34 GMT, c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston) said:


Mark> No, you are doing everything as expected.   It's just that you
Mark> need this patch for lilo to work correctly with 0.97p2.


I've tried to install lilo.4 on my home system (486/33/16/AHA1542B), but
the only response i get is an 'L'. I've tried lilo with the original MBR,
with the BOOTAUTO-MBR and with lilo as the MBR: every time lilo steps in,
i get this 'L' and the system hangs...

On my linux system in the office (486/25/16/AHA1542B) lilo works fine...

Juergen

P.S.: I admit i'm more used to Motorola or VAX assemblers...
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_________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: michael@gcnext.gac.peachnet.edu (Michael Moore)
Subject: recommend a video card
Organization: Georgia College - Milledgeville, GA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:57:08 GMT

Please don't flame me if someone has ask this already but here it goes.
What is the best or most optimal video card that will work with Linux
and X11, in other words what do you recommend

Also does linux support a Colorado Jumbo Tape backup(120 meg)?
And which bus mouse is best supported by linux?


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdiehl@triton.unm.edu (J. Michael Diehl)
Subject: New User --- Bug Reports (3)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 08:53:14 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I just dloaded a copy of linux for experementation/teasing on a system here at
school.  I only use the floppy disk image since I don't even OWN a computer, yet

At first glance, I'm very impressed.  I still have a few questions which I will
post if I can't answere them otherwise.  But I did find two instances of strange
behavior:

1) the login sequence is wrong. (IMVHO) in my VERY humble opinion.
When you boot linux, you get the login prompt.  Enter the name of a user that
does NOT exist.  You immediately get another login prompt.  You should get the
password prompt.  Not a very big problem, but I, as a newbie unix user, 
noticed it.

2) I was playing with the sys.  on a (choke) PS-2 55sx with 2Mb ram. (snicker)
This isn't the system I usually use.  I found that if you select  any SVGA modes
but 80-25, the system locks.  I can give more info if anyone thinks its that 
important.

3) I don't know if this is a bug, but it is strange.  I was playing with the
PS-2 again.  Remember, 2Mb ram and a 95% full fs.  I was loged on as user and
su'ed to root.  I got an out of swap space error and a core dump.  Then I got
a prompt.  Was the command a success?  I wanted to find out.  I did a whoami.
"root"  I did a who.  "user"  I tryed to mount a fs.  Got a permission denied
error msg.  I was loged on as root with no privs!  Thought I'd let ya'll 
know.

I got this system as a learning experiance.  It was actually a charge to log
in as root.  I'm learning a lot, but I expect to have a few questions later.

+-------------------------+----------------------------------------------------+
|  J. Michael Diehl  ;-]  |  I thought I was wrong once.  But, I was mistaken. |
|                         +----------------------------------------------------+
|  mdiehl@hydra.unm.edu   | "Life is stranger than fiction, because fiction    |
|  Thunder@forum          |                has to make sense!"                 |
|  Thunder@Tiny*          |                                                    |
|  (505) 272-HaHa         |                                                    |
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From: dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: running xdtm-2.5
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:28:49 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Following hints supplied on this group, I managed to compile xtdm-2.5.
It comes up with some of the pretty icons and all (varying luck
depending on where I am when I call it up), but with lots of nasty
messages like:

X Protocol Error, trapped and continuing.
X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  62 (X_CopyArea)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  0
  Resource id in failed request:  0x300005b
  Serial number of failed request:  395
  Current serial number in output stream:  501

I swear I put the libraries in the right place.  I even compiled xpm-3.0
jsut to try to appease it.  I used the .xdtmrc that came with it, and
later tried cutting down the icons, to no avail.  All the bitmaps seem to
be in place.  When I try to do anything, like change directories, it 
crashes and spews core files in the target directory.  the defaults are 
installed and apparantly read, since the colors and size are right.

Does anyone have this running, or any desktop manager?  I know many of you
think that this is unnecessary, but I like the ease of using icons to 
launch programs and manage files.

I have 0.96b and gcc-2.2.2, with compatible X11R5.a
  
-- 
Sincerely,

David L. Johnson                    ID:  dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
Christmas-Saucon Hall #14, rm 211        
Department of Mathematics

Lehigh University                   Telephone: 215-758-3759 (office)
From: gt5584e@prism.gatech.EDU (Edward Deering Boykin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: How and what
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:43:05 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


 I have two roomates who also have computers. we are all working on getting
linux installed. As a experiment we would like to network them together. Can
this be done using the latest linux version and tcp/ip stuff. What kind
of equipment would be needed? Would the lan have to be client/server or can it 
be peer-to-peer? None of know a whole lot about networks but we are all
pretty experienced with computers. In laymans terms what are the minimum hardware
requirements for setting this up? Someone give me an ideo if possible, please.


Edward D. Boykin                    Maximus Maximizer Ultimate        \  /|
gt5584e@prism.gatech.edu            Georgia Institute of Technology   'o.O`
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From: eric@tantalus.dell.com (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Compiler Internel error, help!
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:06:15 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory

>| I think it's the problem of gcc, rather than the file system. The
>| SEGV problem occurs when we write some C++ code that makes gcc
>| choke. I tried the same code on the Sparc, the result is the same.

	I am wondering if the new memory manager is setting things up so that
we can no longer write to read-only pages and is more strict about null pointer
references.  Could this explain the sudden rash of segfaults?

-Eric

--
Eric Youngdale
eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted
From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Subject: Re: BOOTLIN4.ZIP required, Does anyone know of an archive server which chas
Keywords: BOOT,LINUX,DOS
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:14:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.175917.19295@jet.uk>, tp@jet.uk (Tarang K Patel) writes:
> 
>   I have installed LINUX on my 486 PC, as I also have a need for DOS partition
> I am now looking for a bootup utility - BOOTLIN.COM (BOOTLIN4.ZIP). This
> utility should allow me to boot up from the LINUX IMAGE file stored on the DOS 
> partition. Can anyone point me to a archive server  which has this utility or 
> something similar.

(Note:  /linux is an NFS mount of the wuarchive linux mirror of tsx-11.mit.edu
	on my workstation).

hammer:/linux% grep bootlin find-ls
 49181    9 -rw-rw-r--  1 johnsonm ftp-linu     9033 Jul  1 20:45 ./INSTALL/dos_utils/bootlin4.zip
hammer:/linux%

SO, that means you can find bootlin4.zip in pub/linux/INSTALL/dos_utils/bootlin4.zip
on tsx-11.mit.edu or in /mirrors4/linux/INSTALL/dos_utils/bootlin4.zip on
wuarchive.wustl.edu.

(Why can't more people do this themselves????)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@ophelia.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: 0.97pl4 breaks SCSI extended partition code
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:15:27 GMT

In article <3555@ra.nrl.navy.mil> eric@tantalus.dell.com (Eric Youngdale) writes:
>-Eric
>
>*** sd.c.~1~	Tue Jul 28 19:31:23 1992
>--- sd.c	Wed Sep  9 17:18:37 1992
>***************
>*** 38,44 ****
>  				
>  int NR_SD=0;
>  Scsi_Disk rscsi_disks[MAX_SD];
>! static int sd_sizes[MAX_SD << 4];
>  static int this_count;
>  static int the_result;
>  
>--- 38,44 ----
>  				
>  int NR_SD=0;
>  Scsi_Disk rscsi_disks[MAX_SD];
>! static int sd_sizes[MAX_SD << 4] = {0, };
>  static int this_count;
>  static int the_result;
>

Nailed by the @#$% boot strap loader.  In 'C', BSS is zero filled.  The 
net effect is that all non-auto, non-regiester variables are initialized 
to zero.  Of course, since the Linux bootstrap loader doesn't specifically
initialize BSS to zero, these variables aren't initialized to 0 like 
they should be, and it may fail.  
-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
marketing's sins don't come close to those of legal departments.
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit.
From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: I get a "specs: Function not implemented" error.
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:07:09 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

wolff@zen.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff) writes:
>P.S.2: Would it be possible to restrict filenames to 14 chars? This makes
>installation on the linux side easier (I am working on getting 0.97 with
>efs working/compiled) Also the bunch of dots in the filenames makes things
>hard when there is a dos disk in the transfer process.

Is there a real problem with the longer filenames on the ftp sites, or
is it just a misunderstanding of some sort?  I never worried about the
long names for the GCC files, and didn't have the slightest trouble.

Adhering to DOS filename restrictions for files on FTP sites is not a
good idea.  Not only can't you have several dots (which would require us
to use some unusual extension instead of .tar.Z, for instance), but you
would have to make _certain_ that all files are unique to the first 8
chars (the extension is usually not particularly useful).

Personally, if I have to move files via a DOS disk, I first put them
into a tar file with a DOS-convenient name, even if they are tar files
themselves to start with.  Works pretty well.

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi
From: khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu (Little Kenny Hamer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: shar shell archives.
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:28:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.4987
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA


How can I get source to the shar/unshar utility?  I have a program I would
like to try to compile, Xfract, but the only source I can find is in a
sharfile.  There is not enough room on my university account to unshar it.

Thanks,
   Ken
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won)
Subject: vi dying when xterm resized
Organization: Monash University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:37:56 GMT

Hi.

	A short quickie for you guys out there. I use vi(elvis) with X386v1.1 with
0.97pl4(great work Linus! No more buffer corruptions...not yet anyway. Had it
for 1.5 days). When I resize xterm, vi can't handle the signal and just
dies on me. What should I do?

Jae
int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au

p.s. Should I have posted this to comp.windows.X11? Oh well, I like this 
group better..:)
From: kooper@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Rob Kooper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: URGENT: compiling mount-0.97 problems
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:58:11 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

In article <1992Sep12.235424.4213@tc.cornell.edu> mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:
>I'm running 0.97pl5 and GCC 2.2.2, and trying to compile mount-0.97 
>is giving me problems. First there's a conflict between mount(2) in
>/usr/include/sys/unistd.h and sys/mount.h.... easy enough to fix
>with an #ifndef HAVE_MOUNT5. But now sundries.c (line 102) is
>complaining about not being able to find "sys_siglist" which
>I can't find defined anywhere. Is this because I'm not running
>2.2.2d? Help.... I need my mount! 

Did you also get the mount patch from tsx-11?

--
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    rob@is.twi.tudelft.nl        | made with artificial ingredients and 
    kooper@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl | furniture polish is made of real lemons!
                                 |             -Alfred E. Neuman (MAD #310)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William A Jones)
Subject: Re: Gettyps203 file transfers
Keywords: gettyps203, file transfers
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:13:46 GMT

The garbled message you mention is probably being sent, and I have no
idea why.  I am getting reports of the same thing from my UUCP feeds.

I FINALLY get news and mail running under linux (thanks in a large part
to the SLS distribution -- even though I had to recompile pieces of it
to get the domain names correct -- Ed Carp, and HJ who produced a C
compiler that tokk Cnews without a burp) and now my feeds can't login.

If I call myself using minicom (one of the advantages of having two
phone lines and two modems) I have no problems logging in under any
user name and doing ``normal'' unix operations.  When one of my UUCP
feeds calls in -- he's running a DOS machine and the latest UUPC I think --
he gets the login: prompt, sends his login, and the gets various
gibberish from me followed by a hangup string.  The same thing happens
when he tries to log in from kermit.  Any suggestions??

Bill
From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Distribution sugestion for gcc.
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:19:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Sep9.021902.6642
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Sep05.170344.14838@donau.et.tudelft.nl> wolff@hal.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I have been thinking about the method gcc is being distributed.
>(partly because I had problems myself, and I seem to be not the only
>one)
>
>Anyway, how about creating a tar file with EVERYTHING in it. This could
>be done in two ways: 
>1)   all the files that are in there now + an install script.
>2)   ALL that gcc needs. Even the links etc that the install script makes.
>
>Option one simply guarantees that you have all the files necessary.
>Option two even eliminates the install script. (Tar should be capable
>of tarring and restoring symlinks and hardlinks. right?)
>
>Now by this time everybody will be screaming that this will result in
>a very large file. This can be accomodated by providing two versions:
>one in a large file. The second split into chunks of about 1.2 megabytes.
>People can then split the large file into pieces if they want, or
>keep it in one chunk if possible. The smaller files can easily be transported
>on floppies.
>
>-- 
>Ok. Suggestions? pro's con's?
>
>					Roger.
>
>-- 
>If the opposite of "pro" is "con", what is the opposite of "progress"? 
>(stolen from  kadokev@iitvax.iit.edu, who got it from brydon@asl.sinet.slb.com)
>EMail:  wolff@duteca.et.tudelft.nl   ** Tel  +31-15-783644 or +31-15-142371

The next release of gcc will just unpack it under /. But you still need
to choose which math lib to use.

I can make a big tar file. I am afraid somebody will still get lost.
I believe anything now. No matter what you do, you cannot satisfy
everybody. The best solution for those people may be Peter's SLS
0.98.

H.J.
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: WANT GCC? FORGET FAQ.GCC AND README?? READ THIS FIRST!!!!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:36:45 GMT

Jim Winstead Jr. (jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu) wrote:

: In article <186a86INNcsb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:

: >BTW, if you don't like these instruction, screw you. It worked for me :)

Thank you, Matthew, for wishing me luck with my sex life. :)
-- 
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"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: Major/Minor numbers
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:34:48 GMT

In article <richard.716248564@stat.tamu.edu> richard@stat.tamu.edu (richard henderson) writes:
>#----------------------------------------------------------
># common name	major,minor block/character	description
>
>ram	   1, 0	   b	ram disk
	   1, 1

That's what I've been told, anyways.  This has been wrong on every
root disk since 0.95a - the next release will fix it.

>mem	   1, 1    c	read kernel memory

This actually represents the physical memory, not just kernel memory.

># There is apparent support for up to 4 floppy devices.
># This number appears to be hardwired in.
># I am open for suggestions for how to name some of the floppy devices.

See the 0.97.1 root disk or the MCC release for the specifics of the
naming convention - basically it's fd[01][dhDH]{360,720,1200,1440}.
Capital D/H means 3.5" drive, lower case is 5.25".

># In the past, the drives have been numbered with the lowercase letters
># and the partitions numbered from 1.  I propose that the drives be
># numbered from 0 and the partitions be lettered from 'a'.  This makes
># writing /dev/MAKEDEV easier, and makes things friendlier for those
># moving between unix platforms.

Not really, since BSD has a completely bizarre mapping for the letters
that doesn't fit well with the partitioning scheme on PC clones.  That
would lead to even more confusion.

Trying to change what has now become standard is a *very bad idea*,
since there is absolutely nothing wrong with the current scheme, and
you'll just confuse everyone.  Those that were around for the /dev/hd#
to /dev/hd[ab]# switch can back me up on that, I think.

The proposed change doesn't make /dev/MAKEDEV any easier at all - in
fact, I think it'd make it harder.  Look at the /dev/MAKEDEV from the
0.97.1 root disk.  With letters=partitions, you'd have to do some
fancy stuff, as opposed to the very straightforward numbers can be
handled.  Remember, 'awk' isn't on the root disk so you can't use it
in MAKEDEV... :)

>tty	5, A c		"the current tty"
	   0

>mouse	10, 0 c		bus mouse
>psaux	10, 1 c		ps/2 mouse

Actually, the last draft of the device-naming standard I saw from the
Linux Standards list had /dev/bm = 10,0.  I think this should be
updated to:

bm-l	10, 0 c		logitech bus mouse
bm-p	10, 1 c		ps/2 mouse
bm-m	10, 2 c		microsoft bus mouse
-- 
                                    +      Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95)
                                    |      Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
                                    |   jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
                                    + or jwinstea@fenris.Claremont.EDU
From: pdp@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Paul Douglas Page)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: PLI scsi controller
Date: 5 Sep 92 08:56:22 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne

I am the semi-proud owner of PLI 16bit QuickSCSI host adapter which is based on the Future Domain controller chip. All works fine under MS-DOS but linux 0.97 isn't too happy about it. I get to the point in the boot where linux is scanning for SCSI drives and it finds my drive on SCSI 2 , reports a timeout error, then scans the other scsi addresses then just sits there and sits there..... until I get bored and reboot. Tha drive light is always active whilst this is going on.

Any one experienced with this card under linux?

thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave)