HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox)
Subject: Re: The Temptation of Saint Anthony
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:49:16 GMT

>
>    If you knew ANYTHING AT ALL about ME, you would know that I
>habitually make absurd, patently false statements, just to get gullible,
>suggestible cheesies like you to say, ``What, REALLY?'' or, better
>still, to provoke arguments about absurd, irrelevant facts.  (``They did
>NOT use 138,000 miles of cabe in the Verrezano-Narrows Bridge, and I can
>PROVE IT!'')  And guess what---you've been suckered, SUCKER.

	Wow, you're soooo cool. What a great pasttime, what a wonderful
way to spend a life as glory-filled as yours, trying to confuse
new people by lying, and then getting excited about it. Go masturbate
elsewhere, please.

>    If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and that's fine, but you are still a
>snivelling little fanboy vermin, SUCKER.
>
>    Anyone who claimed I was infallible was not me.  If you believed
>them, you are an even bigger SUCKER, because I am noted for ALWAYS being
>wrong, ON PURPOSE, and EVERYTHING I SAY IS A LIE.  Believe it or DIE,
>SUCKER. 

	You are noted for this? By who, you are so unimportant, I
sincerely doubt you have earned any recognition. Pointlessness and
pathetic displays on your level are forgotten along with your shallow
existence.
	You seem to take great delight in using the word sucker, especially in
capitals. How sad.

>FOOLED YOU GOOD, because it WASN'T a trick, and THAT is the TRICK.  You
>SHOULD have followed up to misc.misc because that's where this dicussion
>BELONGS, and NOT in talk.bizarre.  Next time think a little less and a
>little better.  SUCKER.

	Wow, you're so clever. Oh Dobbs, where are folks like this cloned?
You're straight from the gamma vats. You have a dubious "life" if this
is how a creature as worthless as yourself spends his time.

-- Random Tox



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Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: Signs of Stupidity
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:52:49 GMT


Signs of Stupidity

-astrology
-Grammy awards
-Garfield
-colorful newspapers
-plaid shorts
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: mingo@world.std.com (Charles H Mingo)
Subject: Re: Marching to Zion
Summary: Coal-fired power plants
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:06:09 GMT

In article <92.09.28.1@eecs.nwu.edu> ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu writes:
>
>You are right about water being another good alternative to nuclear,
>and certainly coal furnaces are out of the question entirely now. Two
>curious uses of water as power come to mind; this is a bit off the
>beaten path here but I'll relate them then go on.

	Just a small parenthetical note about coal being "out of the question
entirely now."

	Most of the new power generation capacity being installed in the US
today is coal.  This is simply by default: no nuclear plants have been started
since the 1970's and there are very few unexploited hydro sites.  The main
choice today is between oil, gas and coal.

	Natural gas never caught on for because of problems in the
distribution system, and the price of oil is too variable (rebember it doubled
in a few weeks in the summer of 1990).  The US has several centuries of coal
reserves, and suppliers are willing to enter into 20-year contracts at a fixed
price.

	So they go for coal.  

(I'm not endorsing this choice: just reporting it.)


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Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: mingo@world.std.com (Charles H Mingo)
Subject: Re: Marching to Zion
Summary: Economics of coal-fired power plants
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:44:29 GMT

In article <@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes) writes:
>
>But I guess what's new about the present time is that coal-fired
>plants are being built far from populated areas, where there are
>fewer people to oppose them.  What are the economics of putting
>the generating plant close to the load and shipping the coal,
>versus putting the plant near the coal and shipping the electricity?

	You will not be surprised to learn that it is usually cheaper
to ship the power (it being less bulky).  Nonetheless, if water
transport is available, the cost of shipping is very low. Also, utilities
don't like putting power plants *too* far away, as that increases the
chance that there will be service interruptions (not to mention power
losses en route).  Coal supplies can be interrupted too, but coal can
be stockpiled (unlike electricity).

	I would imagine one powerful reason to move coal plants away
from cities would be the Clean Air Act.  Even with scrubbers, coal still
pollutes, and areas which are "noncompliant" on CAA obligations (which
is every major city except Kansas City) are not allowed any major new 
pollution sources.

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Xref: sparky misc.misc:3451 talk.politics.misc:49834
From: riggs@descartes.tec.army.mil (Bill Riggs)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:31:15 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: LNK Corporation, Riverdale, MD

It must have been quite an experience voting for Lyndon
in 1964...and proud of it. With a nirvana voting experience
like THAT, no wonder this individual never voted again.

I wonder how many "week-end warrior" Democrats we'll knock
out in THIS election after having voted for Bill Clinton !!

Bill R.


	"My opinions do not represent those of my employer or any
government agency."


-- 
Bill R.
From: mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] Angel of Wheaties")
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:59:18 GMT
	<MJD.92Oct6124157@saul.cis.upenn.edu> <BvprnI.sK@news.larc.nasa.gov>
Organization: Eaters of Wisdom
In-reply-to: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov's message of 6 Oct 92 19:04:30 GMT

In article <BvprnI.sK@news.larc.nasa.gov> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
   Diane, reading across my shoulder, claims that the young woman has given
   up her right to call herself a lesbian due to the commission of that act.

    Not that it's any of my business really, but I didn't realize that
the right sprang from Diane.  How surprising.  We men have a committee
for handling such things.  In fact, I have to go get my faggot license
renewed this very week.


--

                And for to se, and eek for to be seye
Mark-Jason Dominus 	  			    mjd@central.cis.upenn.edu 
Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: mingo@world.std.com (Charles H Mingo)
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:42:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.013905.10471@samba.oit.unc.edu> Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen) writes:
>
>The New Democratic Party has never formed a government federally in Canada,
>but it has advocated a lot of ideas (universal pensions, family
>allowances, government student aid, and so on) that have been adopted by
>other parties. In Canada, there's a lot wrong with the political process,
>but voting *does* make a difference. The parties really do have different
>perspectives and different policies. 
>
>So if you can't vote *for* someone in the next election, maybe there's
>someone you can vote against.
>
>Or maybe you can move north to Canada, where politics are sufficiently
>interesting that votinbg is unambiguously worthwhile.

	The three-party system has its drawbacks, too.  In 1988, Mulroney
won a decisive election victory with 42% of the vote.  Put another way,
the Free Trade Agreement was adopted, even though 58% voted against it.
That makes it seem like there's not much point voting AGAINST things in
Canada; it's who you vote FOR that counts.

	In Britain (which has a similar 3-party parliamentary system),
the Conservatives regularly win with 40-42% of the vote, and their
margin of victory largely depends on how the opposition vote is 
distributed among Labour and the Social Democrats.

	I don't think Americans would be attracted to that kind of 
democracy.  They want to have a winner who reflects a majority of
votes cast.  If no presidential candidate gets a majority of electoral
votes, they throw the election into the House.


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Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: dsuchy19@ursa.calvin.edu (Dawn Suchy)
Subject: I'm really sorry...please ignore...TEST
Summary: Test....sorry!
Keywords: TEST  sorry
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:48:28 GMT

I'm very sorry.....I can't catch-up my misc.test group and things just don't seem to be working correctly!!  This group was small, so...

Thank you, and *please* don't send me any e-mail...I know I'm not supposed to do this!

I don't have a .sig yet either!  

Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: gdsimpso@unix.amherst.edu (GILBERTO DANIEL SIMPSON)
Subject: Latino E-Mailing List
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:04:05 GMT


Xref: sparky misc.misc:3381 rec.antiques:1331 sci.chem:3730 sci.engr.chem:507 sci.geo.geology:2026 sci.materials:731 sci.misc:1642 trial.rec.metalworking:263
From: jlangfor@alsvid.une.edu.au (Joseph Langford)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,rec.antiques,sci.chem,sci.engr.chem,sci.geo.geology,sci.materials,sci.misc,trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: Re: brass
Date: 28 Sep 92 07:06:49 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

From article <1992Sep14.104132.3179@hemlock.cray.com>, by loriae@cray.com (Lori Inglett):
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I was cleaning the wax out of some brass candlestickes the other day when I
> noticed that some of the lacquer coating was starting to buckle and chip.  
> Does anyone know of a method or a chemical to remove the lacquer coating 
> without damaging the brass underneath it?
> 
> Thanks!  
> Please email responses, as I don't usually read this group.
> 
> -Lori  loriae@cray.com
> Lori, a paint remover should do the trick
 
> ****************  Lori Anne Elisabeth Schneider Inglett ********************
> *                       loriae@teak.cray.com                               *
> ***************************  ext 5294   ************************************
-- 
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    University of New England, Northern Rivers (Lismore) NSW Australia
Xref: sparky misc.misc:3437 talk.politics.misc:49705 misc.legal:18145
From: eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc,misc.legal
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:25:41 GMT
Followup-To: misc.legal
Organization: Superseding Information, Inc.

In <92.10.05.1@eecs.nwu.edu>, Patrick Townson sez:
>True or false question: A jury votes for the innocence or guilt of a
>defendant. The jury's word is the final word on the matter.  FALSE!
>Despite the presence of a jury, the judge can rule as he pleases. The
>jury can say the defendant is guilty and the judge will say he is
>innocent. 

This last statement is correct.

>The jury can say he is innocent, and the judge will say he
>is guilty.

Wrong.  The judge is free to say whatever he damn well pleases, but
that doesn't alter the fact that a jury acquittal is final.

-- 
			 Cash value 1/20 cent

	Mark Eckenwiler    eck@panix.com    ...!cmcl2!panix!eck
Newsgroups: misc.misc,alt.feminism
From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: U2 Tickets for sale
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:42:03 GMT

I have 4 U2 tickets for the October 30 concert at Dodger Stadium.  If anybody
is interested, please E-mail, as I don't regularly check this newsgroup.


--
"I drank what?" -- Socrates

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: lopi@di.unipi.it (Lopi)
Subject: postcards exchanges
Summary: postcards
Organization: Dipartimento di Informatica, Universita' di Pisa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:19:39 GMT

Hello!

I'm collecting postcards from all the world , sticking them on a wall in my
room, but the wall is large and the postcards are never enough .. :)

Please help me to fill my wall ... send me a postcard from your countries!
I will send you some postcards from Italy if you write me your address.

My address is :

	Fabio Lopiano
	Casa dello Studente "P. Thouar"
	Piazza San Silvestro 12
	56100 Pisa
			Italia


Thank you in Advance.
I'm expecting a lot of cards!

Ciao!
From: edwardk@cup.portal.com (edward chungfan kwok)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.politics.misc,misc.legal
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 10:22:59 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>In <92.10.05.1@eecs.nwu.edu>, Patrick Townson sez:
>>True or false question: A jury votes for the innocence or guilt of a
>>defendant. The jury's word is the final word on the matter.  FALSE!
>>Despite the presence of a jury, the judge can rule as he pleases. The
>>jury can say the defendant is guilty and the judge will say he is
>>innocent. 
>
>This last statement is correct.
>
>>The jury can say he is innocent, and the judge will say he
>>is guilty.
>
>Wrong.  The judge is free to say whatever he damn well pleases, but
>that doesn't alter the fact that a jury acquittal is final.
\
Reminds me of a story:

Judge:  How did you find?
Jury Foreman:  Your honor, we find the defendant not guilty, but we think he
   should return the mule.
Judge:  What?  This verdict is unacceptable. I must ask you to reconsider and
   return a verdict in accordance with the law applied to the facts.

<much deliberation>

Judge:  How did you find?
Jury Foreman: Your honor, we find the defendant guilty, but we think he can kee
p
        the mule.

That aside, the judge can take a take the verdict from the jury if there is no
triable issue of fact, or the verdict inconsistent with the overwhelming weight
of the evidence (e.g. plaintiff produces little evidence of a material fact th
at she bears the burden of proof, and defendant provides clear and convincing 
evidence in rebuttal, jury finds for plaintiff).  However, in a criminal case,
I can't see a judge nullifying an innocent verdict.  It probably happens more
often in a guilty verdict, any practitioner of criminal law care to comment?
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: giese@bcg.dev.cdx.mot.com (Bruce Giese)
Subject: Re: Coins and banknotes
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, Massachusetts
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:51:03 GMT

Nico Tranquilli <@> writes:

>Is there anybody interested in swapping banknotes or coins ?

>Nico.

  For banknotes you might consider joining the Society of Paper
Money Collectors, SPCM (mostly US notes); International Bank
Note Society, IBNS (in Racine, Wisconsin); LANSA (Latin American
notes); as well as contacting one of the many dealers around the
world.  The "Bank Note Reporter" is an excellent monthly
newspaper covering a wide range of topics and events.  The
IBNS also holds regular auctions.  Unfortunately, I don't have
any of the addresses for these organizations at hand, although
I could get them if needed.

  I'm suprised at how few banknote collectors there are in the
U.S., compared to coin collectors.  This could be due in part to
the fact that U.S. notes have changed so little in the last 50 years.

  				Bruce Giese
				IBNS #6325
From: greenspan05@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Entrepreneurs Conference at Wharton
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:14:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania
			Proudly Presents

The 6th Annual  Mid-Atlantic Conference on Entrepreneurship

			November 14, 1992
			Univ. of Pennsylvania
			Philadelphia, PA

Featuring Keynote Speakers.............................

Orville & Gary Redenbacher	& 	Jim Koch
Founder & Grandson			President
Orville Redenbacher Popcorn		Boston Beer Company
					Samuel Adams Beer

along with 15 other top entrepreneurs from around the country!!!!

The Mid-Atlantic Conference is intended for the innovative individual who
strives to achieve his/her goals.  Last year more than 200 students and
business people from several states and universities gathered to learn from the
experiences of successful entrepreneurs.  If you want more than you can get
from reading books, talking on networks, or going to class, the Mid-Atlantic
Conference is for you.  17 top entrepreneurs will speak on topics that pertain
directly to your business - from critical early stages of growth to national
and international expansion.  Whether an undergraduate or graduate college
student, business owner, or entrepreneur, this conference could be one of the
smartest business moves you make.  Make contacts, Network with the best and
brightest, and STRIVE FOR SUCCESS!!!!!

The following seminars will be offered this year:

Starting the Right Business		Franchising 101: A Crash Course
Getting your Foot in the Door		Advertising for Results: Choosing
	for New Business			the Right Medium
Hiring and Managing your Team		Raising Venture Capital
MArketing in the '90s			Negotiating to Win
The Tax Advantaged Entrepreneur		Acquiring a Small Business
New Opportunities in Int'l Trade	Going Global
Keeping One Step ahead of the 		Identifying, Managing, and Preparing
	Competition				for Growth
Managing your Finances

The full day conference starts at 9:00am and ends at 4:45 pm with registration
from 8:00am until 9:00am.  The event includes continental breakfast, buffet
lunch, and all conference materials.  Conference Registration is $75.00 ($60.00
early bird before November 7, 1992) Full-time student registration is $25.00
with valid photocopy of student identification.  To receive a brochure(s) or if
you have any questions, reply via vax or telephone (215) 573-7917, Howard
Greenspan, or (215) 386-6129, Paul Horrock, Conference Directors.

Student leaders, Club Presidents, and College Professors:  If you would like
your group, class, or organization to take part in this exciting event, please
contact us and we can send out multiple brochures and information packets. 
Requests can be made by phone, vax, or through the mail at
			Mid-Atlantic Conference
			Snider Entrepreneurial Center
			4th Floor - Vance Hall
			3733 Spruce Street
			Philadelphia,  PA  19104


Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Local Telnet Numbers
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:19:36 GMT


I live in the Washington, D.C. area and I am looking for local access to
Telnet in order to not have to drive to the university (U of MD) in order
to access my EBBS account... is there a number I can call that will
automatically direct me to a Telnet site?

THanx

Phil

PS: I am also looking for information on a gateway between WWIVNet and
Internet


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From: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Summary: What he said.
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:25:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsi.1992Oct6.212553.28977
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <CB.92Oct6125520@tamarack13.timbuk>, cb@tamarack13.timbuk
(Chris Brewster) quotes me:
> > Who you vote for at the national or even state level may not make much
> > of a difference--I guess it's a matter of personal philosophy-- ...

> Though the electorate, in a democracy, probably should have more
> influence on policy than we in the US have (take the Vietnam war as an
> example), I can point to lots of things in my immediate situation and
> physical environment that resulted from, for example, the election of
> Reagan.  There will be real, everyday differences in our lives depending
> on who is elected president this time...

Agreed.  For instance, Supreme Court justices.

> Townson's cynicism, though partly justified, simply makes it easier for
> factions such as the Christian Coalition to control everything.

Very good point.  The Radical Right is highly organized, completely
computerized, well financed, and they *do* vote.  Their inroads into
the American political mainstream are self-evident.  If you don't
vote, you are letting their choices control your life.

               *** ***
Ken Perlow   ***** *****
06 Oct 92   ****** ******   15 Vendemiaire An CCI
            *****   *****   gadfly@ihspc.att.com <- New address.
             ** ** ** **             ^^^
...L'AUDACE!   *** ***   TOUJOURS DE L'AUDACE!  ENCORE DE L'AUDACE!
From: ldoming@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Lawrence Domingo)
Subject: Credit Card Number CheckSum
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:49:53 GMT

Some months ago, someone posted a message here on misc.misc that
detailed specifically how to do a checksum on a credit card number.

Would that person re-post that message?  Or if someone else still
has a copy or knows how to do that checksum please post the
instructions again?

Thanks!

Newsgroups: misc.misc,alt.feminism
From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Warm Fuzzy Article About ASB
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:09:45 GMT
Followup-To: alt.feminism

Does anyone have a copy of the warm, fuzzy article about alt.sex.bondange,
Muffy (Jean) Barkocy, and the merits of cold ice cubes?  The one that was
printed in the Canadian newspaper?  I wanted to send a copy of it to Terry
Wood, so she'd have a better idea of why Muffy is going ballistic. (I don't
think Terry's seen the whole thing.  Though I'm not sure how much she cares
at this point, actually.)  This is different from the news.admin article,
BTW.  I don't seem to have a copy of the ASB article in my files anymore.

Xref: sparky misc.misc:3430 talk.politics.misc:49627
From: biggles@wam.umd.edu (David "Dave" Smolar)
Subject: Re: Ignore this guy, he's an IDIOT (was Re: ARABS - TERRORISTS)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:55:38 GMT

>In article <1992Sep19.154711.25463@wam.umd.edu> rdc@wam.umd.edu (Richard D. Cerling) writes:
>   Listen folks-- this guy Carrasso is an idiot:  I've seen his work in other
>   newsgroups.  He likes to make alot of ignorant, bigotted, and unfounded
>   claims about almost anything.  The best way to get rid of this pest is
>   to simply IGNORE his posts.  Replying to his posts only encourages him--
>   and wastes bandwidth that could be used more productively.
>
>
>Cut it out, Roger.
>
 QUIT IT!!!   MOM!!!          	

	(time to divorce the parents)        


			--bigglesomeonekeepsmovingmychair	
>

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