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From: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Subject: Re: Loving Malaysian Prince:New Developments
Reply-To: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 08:10:03 GMT


In a previous article, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) says:

>In article <27JUL199208375395@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu> ytay@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (AUS:TAY,YIAN) writes:
>
>:                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>: >Journalists/editors.
>:  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>: 
>: And what is this supposed to mean???  Trying to bring the Chinese into
>: your idiotic argument too?  Raja Kamarul might be a prince to you
>Aren't you a chinese? How could a journalist/editors make such basic mistake
>as not including a picture of the most important evidence?
>	Obviously you are biased. The author was a Muslim. I am not sure who
>the editors/censorers are, but Singapore is made up of 75% chinese, governed by
>chinese, highly government controlled media.
>
>: but he is a nobody to me.
>That was what I was trying to tell everyone including you but you do not
>believe me do you? Now do you admit that he is just an ordinary Malaysian 
>Citizen or do you want to shift your stand again?
>
>: 
>: Since you are so smart, why don't you tell us the truth?? But why should
>: I believe that what you said is the whole story/truth?  You could jolly 
>: well fabricate your story to your advantage too....
>: 
>Same to you.
>--
>Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
>Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
>Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
>Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
>



LET THE GAMES BEGIN !!...err, no...LET THE OLIMPIK BEGIN !!...err, umm, no, 

no, no...LET THE SHOW BEGIN !!...ummm, still no, arrr......


		
		LET THE CIRCUS BEGIN !!!

				 ahhh...YES! YES! YES!





Majulah Sukan Untuk Negara,
ATAN
BANGSA: PISANG RAJA
From: nirmal@cl.bull.fr (Nirmal Prasad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Request - Info on Singapore
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:46:08 GMT
Reply-To: nirmal@cl.bull.fr (Nirmal Prasad)
Organization: BULL SA, FRANCE


Greetings,

I am posting this for a friend of mine who does not have
access to the net. You can reply to me and I can pass on the 
information to him.

Firstly, some background info about my friend. He is a French national
of Indian origin working for an American company in Paris. He 
has been given an option to get transferred to his company's 
Singapore branch which was opened recently. He is seeking  answers 
to the following questions from the net so that it will help him
in taking a decision whether to move to Singapore or not.

1. What is the rate of income tax in Singapore ?
2. Is there something like a social security scheme ?
3. How many paid holidays do you have per year ?
4. What are the pension schemes ?
5. How expensive is Singapore (rent for a 2 bed room apt, living
   expenses for a family of 4 etc) ? 
6. How expensive is schooling ( He has kids aged 3 and 5) ?


Please add other info which is useful and which I've missed out to ask.

Thanks in advance

							Nirmal
From: espdm@warwick.ac.uk (RANGANATHA RAO GURURAJ)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Info please....
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:11:44 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

Hello dears !

Can i request someone to let me know as to what the prevailing
price of gold ornaments in Dubai is. Additionally i need more info
on where to buy these. (is there a duty free shop avl ?)

Thanks in advance

R Gururaj

++ : Kindly reply to my email address
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: u926009@postoffice.utas.edu.au (C-Loh)
Subject: Chong Hwa is simply the best
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:39:51 GMT

Let me join the heated debate for the best schools.

Chong Hwa Indenpendent High school (CHIHS) is simply one of the best
independent high school in Malaysia.

Why?

Following the Education Act in 1963 (?), the director board made a hard
decision to separate Chong Hwa into two. The national type and the private
school. Without a proper school compound, the initial enrolment was just a
mere 50 students or so. With the destruction of the Second World War, CHIHS
decided to move to Jalan Ipoh where the land was donated by Hokkian Assoc.

More than a decade of later, the school has expanded dramatically. Now with
a total of more than 4000 students (one session only) from nearly every part
of the whole country. From Alor Setar to Johor bahru. From Kuching to Sandakan.
Even foreign students from Brunei, Canada and Australia have been our students.
More recently, a 13-year-old gifted child was graduated here.

The academic and ECA records are equally impressive. From Olymic mathemathics 
competition to Drawing Contest. 

Come on, any former Chong Hwa students. Join me.

C-Loh 

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From: txd07@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Childrens and the rights of their parents.
Reply-To: txd07@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:06:58 GMT

	First let me just say that my English is bad, so pleeeeeez, don't
give any sarcastical comments regarding my English.

	That aside, I would like to explain te above subject, from an Islamic
point of view. But first, le me state that only believer's believe. Other
non-Moslem might beg to disagree with what I am going to say.

	It so happen that during the Time of The Prophet Muhammad, Peace Be Upon
Him, there's a case where a husband became Murtad, i.e. denouncing Islam and
become a Disbeliever. His wife still clings on to Islam, and this couple have
a son the fight over with. The couple brings the son to the Prophet, hoping
that He would do justice to them and give the son to the one who deserves him.

	Both of them gave their points of arguments. You what the Prophet say?
He told the son to choose whoever he likes between the two of them, and ask
the mother to pray for his son's faith. And Praise Be to ALLAH, the child
choses his mother, (and not his infidel father).

	I guess, Muslim and Non-Muslim alike, should use this kind of judgment
in that prince and whatever-it-is-case.

	To hell with Australian, Malaysian and international laws. Ask those
children, and stop this bickering in this newsgroup. You people out there
stoops so low, like using profane languages and uncalled for name-callings.

	It's like having a newsgroup full of eight-year-old who just learns how to
swear.

	Grow up.

Abu Syafiq.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: aq668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Candy Lee)
Subject: Re: **** Australian citizens kidnapped by Malaysian Prince ****
Reply-To: aq668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Candy Lee)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 05:55:22 GMT


In a previous article, stong@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Simon Tong) says:

>
>Two Australian citizens, both aged under 10, have been kidnapped
>by their father, who happens to be a Malaysian Prince.  The natural
>parents are divorced and the mother has sole custody.  The Australian 
>Federal Police is still looking for them. 
>


Yeah we do have a few of them out there...lemme see, a "rumored" murderer,
a tax evader, and now a child-napper. What else can you ask for??

--
From: Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP ME WITH QUOTING!!
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:25:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ATT.1992Jul23Th182453a.Dan_Jacobson
Organization: AT&T-BL, Naperville IL, USA

>>>>> "MW" == MICHAEL WOO <wwoo@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> writes:

MW> Could somebody outthere help me how to use the qouting method to
MW> qoute somebody article quote by quote at a time. like take one
MW> segment by the time and reply that particular segment of
MW> questions?

All I know is that I can make cool quoting with GNU Emacs' GNUS
newsreader (see newsgroup gnu.emacs.gnus) + SuperCite [demonstrated
above].

	 GNU Emacs Lisp Code Directory Apropos -- "supercite"
"~/" refers to archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:/pub/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/

supercite (2.2)	      91-06-29
     Barry A. Warsaw, <bwarsaw@cen.com>
     ~/packages/sc-2.2.tar.Z
     Mail and news citation package.

GNUS is there too:
/archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:/pub/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/packages/gnus-3.14.1.tar.Z
-- 
Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM Naperville IL USA +17089796364 Chinese~{;}5$Da~}Ji1Dan1ni2
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From: u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia)
Subject: Re: Malaysian Foods
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:31:23 GMT

In article <92211.092740MALAYSIA@MTUS5.BITNET>, <MALAYSIA@MTUS5.BITNET> writes:
> 
> 
> 
> Re : Report on a dinner party organized by Malaysian Students Assoc. at

(stuff deleted)

>I can see that by watching
> my members finished up the foods so fast. We had curry chicken( In three
> different cooks), Malay rice, "Curry Sotong"( One of the major dish that
> I enjoy the most), Chicken puff, "Mee Goreng" and a lot more. The dinner
> party was a huge success and over 40 members came to the party.
> Everybody had a good time that night and loaded their stomach full of
> good foods before they head home. I hope we can do that again sometime
> in the future. For those Malaysians out there, you too can enjoy good
> food if you can put all your members together and organize a dinner
> party like what we did.

(stuff deleted)

> Reported by Chon Y. Ooi
>             President of
>             Malaysian Students Association at
>             Michigan Tech University.


I don't know about the others in netland but I would enjoy reading the
recipes used. Anyone out there with a recipe for Laksa which does not involve
using a pre-packed spice packet? And would anyone like to share their recipe
for satay sauce - I have tried several but they never taste quite as good as
the ones back home.

Edmund
From: pingsian@aifh.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: OTHMAN BIN AHMAD
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:15:44 GMT
Reply-To: pingsian@aifh.ed.ac.uk ()
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland


Mr Othman Bin Ahmad,

        you wrote on 27 Jul 1992 at 11:37:52 the following :

>  The above do not tell the WHOLE STORY/TRUTH. What do you expect from
>  Chinese Journalists/editors.

        I think you have been creating a lot of unpleasant feeling among
different races using the Network.  Lets not forget that the network is
for sharing of cultures, sciences and technology etc ...  This is not a
place for being ignorant.  I think you should think about what you said
before posting news on the network.  Putting words like the above is not a
polite way of conveying your message. 

        I happen to be a chinese myself and you are a malay.  Please do
not cross the line of harmony and create a lot of unpleasant feeling
among people in Singapore, Singaporean who are abroad, or even other
nations in the world.  I hope you will respect other races, or you might find it
difficult to get along with people, even in NTU.   Singapore govt is
always trying to promote harmony among all races, I hope you will be
more reasonable in whatever you post and be more acceptable rather than
being very intruding.

        Maybe you should pay some attention to the answers that you keep getting regarding
your broadcasts.

        Lastly, I would like to assure all people who sign up this newsgroup
that this is not the stereotype of the people living in Singapore.
 

Ping
Dept. Of Artificial Intelligence,
University Of Edinburgh.
From: sya@pe5.pe.utulsa.edu (Syed Shibli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: **** Australian citizens kidnapped by Malaysian Prince ****
Date: 23 Jul 92 04:16:00 GMT
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joseph@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Joseph D'Cruz) writes:

> circumcision is referred to as a 'clitorectomy'.  The clitoris is the part of
> the female sexual organs responsible for almost all sensual pleasure women
> experience during intercourse.  What you have done is to deny your daughter
> the ability to experience pleasure during sexual intercourse.

  The last two statements are probably too strong. I can provide a
  rebuttal but your comprehension of it depends heavily on your experience
  in these matters. I have no knowledge of that so before I risk
  making a fool out of myself by hurling arguments at a neophyte, I shall
  cheerfully take my leave now. How's that for non-comittal?

--
                                               --Syed Shibli
                                                 ssr48327@vax1.utulsa.edu
                                                 +1 918 631 3257
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From: aperak@nyx.cs.du.edu (aku perak)
Subject: test
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:04:30 GMT


hope to get news about malaysia in this newsgroup.....      

see ya later (jumpa lagi!)
senyum selalu
From: SSR48327@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Syed Shibli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Social Development Unit (Re : was Sins of Singapore)
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:56:28 GMT
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harish@csar.uucp (Harish Pillay) writes:

>Apologies for not making the above clear.  The Visa card scheme is for people 
>who are Raffles alumni.  Everytime a person uses the card, Standard Chartered
>gives 1% (I think) of what was spent to a fund set aside for scholarships.
>That way, the alumni can continue contributing to the school long after 
>leaving school.  I think this is a neat idea that should be explored by 
>other schools. 

  And a neat idea it is (if you work for VISA). Note that this
  marketing strategy is nothing more than a ploy to remove all the
  guilt associated with spending far too much money on stuff 
  you don't really need. ("Good Heavens, why am I buying this yacht?
  Why, to donate part of the proceeds to my alma mater, of course!")
 
-- 
                                              --Syed Shibli
                                                ssr48327@vax1.utulsa.edu
                                                +1 918 631 3257
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: ycchin@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Chin Yih Chong)
Subject: Hwa Chong's not that bad
Summary: Hwa Chong's not that bad!
Keywords: Hwa Chong J. C.
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:04:16 GMT

	After reading the article by K.C.Goh, I have also some points to
raise.....

	I studied in HJC (88-89), never really have a chance to use the
original campus, but dispite of the misfortune, the teachers and
lecturers are very helpful and keen on their work. I agreed that Hwa
Chong has a bunch of very good mathematics teachers, like Mr Yeo and Mr
Tien and many of the new staff......

	Hwa Chong Spirit lives on.......




Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: kfboey@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Steve Boey)
Subject: Olympics Opening Ceremony 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:19:32 GMT

	I read an article (think it was SI) earlier this year that there
were quite a few archers vying for the job to light the torch.

	Some of them were slightly injured (got burned !!!) because they
took too long to aim.

	There were also some who started a mini fire when they missed the 
target completely (boh-boh shooter !!!) :-) 
(for those who're wondering what the heck is a "boh-boh shooter".........
 well it's the other extreme of a sharp-shooter, army lingo).

	Quite funny (only because no one was seriously injured).

	I'm just glad that the fella didn't miss his target at the opening
ceremony !   :-)


----------

When all else Fail, Lower your Standard !

						.Steve Boey.
 


:
From: akster@leland.Stanford.EDU (Aki Shoji)
Subject: Re: Hwa Chong's not that bad!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:50:36 GMT

I was there in 1984 for 10 months.  My classmates were nice, and the GP
teacher, Ms. Guth was very good.  Otherwise, I did not get much out of
my stint at Hwa Chong.  The constant exhortation to have "school spirit"
was irritating (according to my sister, it was already much better than
when she was there in 1980), I hated transparencies and huge lecture halls,
everyone was SO exam-oriented... Basically I felt "lemming"-ized, so I got
out when I could.

But of course, that was my own experience.  Glad to know the system
worked for most people.





Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: nor@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Nor-Azlan Nordin)
Subject: Malaysia : Badminton/Hockey ?
Organization: PSU Petroleum Engineering
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:32:19 GMT


     How's Malaysia doing in Olympic (Badminton)?  
     The qualifying rounds etc. Any news?
     How about hockey?  Please post if you have the info.  Nothing
     much about these events in the TRIPLECAST.  As far as I know, 
     Malaysia lost to Pakistan (1-4) in hockey.  Any update?
     Thanks.


     -azlan nordin- 
       Penn State
From: espaz@warwick.ac.uk (KENNY LEE SIEW ONN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: AMAZED
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:18:46 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

I WAS UTTERLY AMAZED TO DISCOVER MY MAILS (ENTITLED "OLYMPICS IN
MALAYSIA?" AND "OLYMPICS REMINDER") WHICH WERE MEANT TO BE POSTED
TO A FRIEND OF MINE TO BE FOUND WITHIN THE soc.culture.asean NEWSGROUP.

AS EXPECTED, THEY WERE NOT SPARED FROM BEING ALTERED OR RATHER APPENDED
FOR INSTANCE, THE "TOTALLY-FOREIGN-TO-ME" NAMES BEING USED.

HOWEVER, WHAT SHOCKED ME EVEN MORE WAS THE EFFECT THAT THOSE TWO ARTICLES
HAVE ON READERS WHICH SPARKED OFF THE DEBATE ON THE USE OF PROPER GRAMMER,
AND THE CORELATION BETWEEN POPULATION AND OLYMPICS' MEDALS.

NEVERTHELESS, THAT TAUGHT ME ONE GOOD LESSON AS TO THE POWER OF WORDS IN
BRINGING ABOUT THE CHANGE TO EVERYTHING.


KENNY LEE
PLEASE BE REMINDED, IT IS ESPAZ AND NOT ESPCA!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: algebra@leland.Stanford.EDU (Leong Weng Ng)
Subject: Re: Best School in Malaysia
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:04:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.151843.17996@leland.Stanford.EDU> yongwee@leland.Stanford.EDU (Yong Wee Dennis Lee) writes:
>In article <l6sj4lINN3kf@nyquist.usc.edu> goh@nyquist.usc.edu (K.C.Goh) writes:
>>
>>3)	Raffles Institution and RJC
>>		"If I apply your criterion, I would vote RI to be 
>>		the most successful school in the region.....
>>		....  RI continues to be great because it is able to 
>>		attract the BEST and most able students..
>>						Dennis Lee"
>
>Correction: I meant to refer to RI only, not RJC... Many good students from RI
>chose to go to other JCs for various reasons, like breaking out of a fixed
>social circle, and escaping from the depressingly 'kiasu' culture of Raffles.
>In my opinion, RJC is great mainly due to its huge intake of RI students; thus
>the root of 'greatness' comes from RI :)
>
>Dennis Lee
>Stanford University

	"Kiasu" is not RI's monopoly. There are many other 
schools in Singapore which exhibit this trait but nobody
points a finger at them because they did not do as well as
RI did. So my point is: people are calling RI students "kiasu"
arrogant and what not only because they are the best. Take
some time to consider a generaliztion of this statement:
if you are at the top, people will invariably stereotype
you as being afraid-to-lose (because you have never lost
before) and proud (because it is assumed for some warped
reason that success must always get to your head). Apply
negation and you will also understand why people tend to
be sympathetic to underdogs. Just an observation on society.

Weng Leong
Stanford U.


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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: Volleyball in Olympics
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:08:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.015149.16904@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, u925979@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Hee Poh) writes:
> Does anyone know anything about the volleyball matches in Barcelona?
> I am currently in Australia, will there be any LIVE broadcasting matches
> showing on TV?
> 
> Any info is very much appreciated.
> 
> P/s : Also is there any different about the broadcast system between Tasmania
>       and the main-land? I am in the southern most, Hobart. 

Are you getting coverage with a Seven Sport banner?  How many hours a day (23?)

You may get some volleyball not live.

Seven Sport is covering all Australian events live, and most volleyball clash
with other team events Australia is playing in.

You may get a replay of a game somewhere.

A TV GUIDE WAS POSTED BY ME IN AUS.GENERAL

Rod
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