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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Scanner Installtion on PI 4D/35 (HELP!!!)
Keywords: Scanner
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:21:05 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <511@kluge.fiu.edu> sumargoh@serss0.fiu.edu (H. Sumargo) writes:
| I have a Sharp JX-300 color scanner with scpecification as follows:
|      Scan Size:   85. x 11.6
|      Resolution:  300 D.P.I.
|      I/O:         GPIB IEEE-488 Interface
| 
| What I would like to do with the above scanner is to install it on my
| PI 4D/35.  Does anybody out there have ever done such installation?  As
| far as I am concerned, the PI 4D/35 does not come with GPIB Interface.
| However, can we go around with it, so that the scanner can be installed
| to the PI 4D/35?  Please email your reponse to:
| sumargoh@serss0.fiu.edu.  Thank you very much.

GPIB is available for all SGI systems with VME.  That doesn't mean
the 300 will work though.  It depends on how close the command set
is to the 450.  Since the size is smaller, at a minimum preview mode
won't work, and you'll have to be careful what part of the bed to
scan, so the commands sent for the 450 are acceptable range-wise to
the 300.

--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: TWO FDDI CARDS IN ONE SGI WORKSTATION
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:26:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.032940.21282@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, dplakosh@isis.cs.du.edu (Daniel `Plakosh) writes:
> 
>    I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO PUT TWO FDDI CARDS INTO 
> ONE SGI WORKSTATION AND COMMUNICATE ON TWO TOTALY SEPARATE NETWORKS. 

Yes.

> IF THIS IS POSSIBLE HOW DOES ONE SELECT WHICH NETWORK DATA GOES OUT 
> ON?  I AM ASSUMING THE USE OF SOCKETS AS IN ETHERNET (TCP/IP).

The same way you select one of two (or more) ethernets, by IP address.

If that answer is obscure, although it might not be, then it might be
helpful to consult textbooks on network.  Perhaps Comer's.


Vernon Schryver,   vjs@sgi.com
From: fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Need directory limits help ???
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:01:15 GMT


Does anybody know where can I find the following info:

1. The limit on how many files that can be stored in one
   directory (with IRIX of course).

2. The limit to the size of a directory.

3. The limit to the number of characters in
   a file name including the path.

TIA.

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 | Polymer Composites                                                     |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: dcs@neutron.chem.yale.edu (Dave Schweisguth)
Subject: Default-program-to-run resource in 'xwsh'
Summary: There isn't one, but there might be later.
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Yale University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:02:07 GMT

I am hereby summarizing a single (and entirely sufficient) reply to my
previous post. Kipp Hickman of SGI tells me that there is no resource to
complement the '-e' flag in 'xwsh', but that there is an RFE to add it.

--
| Dave Schweisguth   Yale MB&B & Chemistry   Email: dcs@neutron.chem.yale.edu |
| Lab phone: 203-432-5208      Fax: 203-432-6144     Home phone: 203-436-2831 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: davea@quasar.wpd.sgi.com (David B.Anderson)
Subject: Re: Irix 4.0.1 cc -g  very slow: uses lots of system time
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:12:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.220342.12962@news2.cis.umn.edu> slevy@gauss.geom.umn.edu (Stuart Levy) writes:
>Compiling the same source tree on several fairly quiescent machines --
>a 4D/240 running 3.3, a 4D/310 running 4.0.1, a Sparcstation 1+ and a
>Nextstation -- I noticed that the 310 running 4.0.1 took by far the longest
>wall-clock time, nearly an hour, and most of that system time.
>All other systems took about 10-15 minutes wall clock time each.
>
>``cc -v'' on the 4.0.1 system showed the problem.  For a typical file taking
>about 2 seconds user time to compile, the accom (or ccom if I use -cckr)
>pass takes about 10 seconds of system time (!), while under Irix 3.3 ccom
>takes about 1 second of system time.  Object files were written across NFS.

>The above compilations all used -g.  On removing the -g flag, 
>system time goes essentially to zero and compilation runs reasonably fast.
>
>I imagine that whatever writes the debugging symbol tables must be
>doing unbuffered I/O.
>
>Is this a known problem, and if so, is there a fix in the pipeline?

With -g, the compiler is doing gethostname() pathconf() getcwd() and
stat() on every #included file. To provide  better information for
debuggers. New in 4.0.1.
Since this may be slow over a net, it is one possible explanation.

This is an interesting report.  Thanks for providing some details.   

Additional details that would be welcome:
	How large a sample .o was with and without -g 
	Whether having the source local (esp. header files) 
		was critical to compile time
	Are the temp files local? (try using the environment
		variable TMPDIR to set the location of temp files 
		to a local disk if you have one)).

As time permits we will look into it.

Regards,
[ David B. Anderson  Silicon Graphics  (415)335-1548  davea@sgi.com ]

BTW: the debugging symbol table is written out to a temp file on
disk at the end of each ccom/accom execution in about 11 fwrite(3)s.
It is in memory while ccom/accom are running.
From: jack@cwi.nl (Jack Jansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 4.0.2 Stdio or ldfcn weirdness.
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:39:03 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

After we switched to 4.0.2 my dynamic loader suddenly stopped working.
Investigating the problem showed that the construct
    fd = fileno(IOPTR(ldptr))
yielded an incorrect file descriptor (255). Looking at the structures
in core leads me to believe that either the ldfcn stuff or stdio
itself uses memory mapping or some such trick to read data (the
'buffer size' field in the FILE struct was the length of the whole
file), and that that is the reason that fileno() doesn't work.

Could anyone tell me if my reasoning is correct? Would anyone know of
a workaround to get the file descriptor that belongs to an LDFILE
structure?

By the way: there's an other error introduced in 4.0.2: I now have to
include ar.h before including ldfcn.h, otherwise I get 'undefined
structure ranlib' error messages from the compiler. The manual page
doesn't tell me this...
-- 
--
Jack Jansen        | If I can't dance I don't want to be part of
Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl | your revolution             -- Emma Goldman
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From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Translator Alias-RenderMan ?
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:21:56 GMT
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science

I'm looking for SW that permits	to read in Alias-SDL-files and generate
an outputfile that is readable by RenderMan-SW from Pixar. Does anyone know
where to find that? If yes, please e-mail to "hafner@ifi.unizh.ch".
Thanks!
							Michel Hafner
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sgi:6837 comp.unix.bsd:795
From: terry@ithaca.npd.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.question
Subject: Re: Socket, binding to reserve port - SGI, IRIX 4.0.0
Keywords: socket
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:03:47 GMT
Organization: Novell NPD -- Sandy, UT

In article <1992Apr10.190642.193@ll.mit.edu>, lebrun@ll.mit.edu (Steven F. LeBrun) writes:
|> According to the IRIX Networking Programming Guide, only privileged
|> users can bind sockets to reserve port numbers.  My program works
|> correctly if it is owned by root and uses a port number between
|> 721 and 731.  It fails to work correctly if not owned by root or
|> it uses a port number outside of the required range.

	I don't understand the range restrictions...

|> Only our system adminstrator is allowed to have root privileges.
|> Developing this program is difficult since I need to own the 
|> executable to recompile it.  I tried setting the access mode 
|> and ownership to `-rwsrwsrwx root' but the compiler would not
|> overwrite the file.  [Access mode -r-s--s--x is need to run the
|> program from another account.]

	You ARE allowed to overwrite an SUID root file; it just won't stay SUID.  This
is a security feature.  If you are compiling as root, you can rm -f the file in your
makefile and chmod 6711 the file after linking.

|> Is root the only privilege user who can bind sockets to reserved port 
|> numbers?

	Yes, root is the only one.  The programs 'rlogin', 'rsh', 'rcmd', et al operate
as "vouchsafe" security programs to allow remote access.  The theory is that if
machine A's root says you are user Q, then machine believes it without requiring
you to prove it (by giving a password).  In order to guarantee that this is the case,
only root is allowed to do the vouching.  The way this is done is by offering the
service on a reserved port; that way, only root acquired reserved connections
can talk to the service.  Check out rlogin, and you will see it is SUID root.

|>  Is there a way of setting up my account so that I can bind
|> sockets to reserved port numbers without being given full root
|> privileges?

	No account can be given "partial" root priviledges (unless you set your account
up as an ID 0 account with a restricted shell... ;-).

	You may wish to write a "reserved port getter" which execs your program after
getting the reserved port on a known fd (I do NOT endorse this -- I could probably make
it give me a port and run the wrong program, if nothing else, with a chroot() if nothing else,
if you were smart enough to require an explicit path.  Then I'd vouchsafe myself as anybody
I wanted who had a .rhosts file or any account on a machine in /etc/hosts.equiv). 

	A possible alternative might be to use the telnet approach, where you become
the invoking user after getting your reserved port -- ie: you do the root stuff up front.  This
is how the telnet program normally operates.  Check out the BSD networking sources
for more info.


						Terry Lambert
						terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com
						terry@icarus.weber.edu
From: hsg@duke.cs.duke.edu (Henry Greenside)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Questions about Explorer...
Keywords: Explorer, AVS
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:40:02 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


Can someone please summarize for me what the relation
between Explorer and AVS is? Are their capabilities for
data visualization roughly comparable? What are their
relative strengths and weaknesses? Do people end up
purchasing both programs?

Can Explorer be purchased for non-SGI platforms, e.g.,
Sun or HP machines?

I also saw some earlier posting saying that certain
Explorer modules assumed the GL library and so could
not display on remote X terminals. I am not familiar
with SGI machines to understand the implications:
specifically what kinds of Explorer images can not be
viewed by X-terminals?

	Thanks,

	Henry
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: IRIX 4.0.1 and semaphores
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:42:53 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <92Apr10.162139edt.8710@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> gene@vis.toronto.edu (Gene Amdur) writes:

| I've been playing around with a C program that is roughly
| equivalent to Sun's trace.  The code that I grabbed from a umontreal.ca
| machine uses semaphones in part of its code.  Well there were some
| bugs and in the process of fixing them I caused several core dumps
| of the program. Now when I try to run the program I get:
| 
| error : can't allocate semaphore : No space left on device
| 
| from the following two statements:
| 
|    /* get two semaphores for the stderr and exit gates */
|    if((semid=semget(IPC_PRIVATE, 2, IPC_CREAT)) == -1)
|    { fprintf(stderr, "error : can't allocate semaphore : %s\n", 
| 		strerror(errno));exit(1);}
| 
| There is nothing else running on this machine that is using the default
| of 25 semaphores.  So it looks to me like an abnormal exit of a program
| that has semaphores allocated to it might prevent the semaphores from 
| being put back on the available list.  Has anyone else seen this?

See 'man ipcs ipcrm'.  I seem to recall that semaphores do indeed
hang around unless explictly cleaned up.


Sorry, no help on the actual tracing stuff.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: krueger@iss.nus.sg (Richard Krueger)
Subject: GL market size
Originator: krueger@maclane
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 05:22:55 GMT


I am currently developing visualization software for Silicon Graphics
and IBM RS6000 workstations. Does anybody know how many GL machine are
out there? I have been told that SGI has approximately 30,000 installed
workstations and that there are approximately 10,000 IBM RS6000 with
the 24 bit GL card. I never could get an exact number from IBM. If it
isn't confidential, how many Indigos and PC Iris Vision cards have been
sold? If anybody knows this, please let me know. Also, if you know anyone
who has the exact numbers, please contact me.

Richard Krueger

National University of Singapore.
From: macleod@vissgi.cvrti.utah.edu (Rob MacLeod)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: CAP on SGI
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:16:35 GMT

We are trying to get Columbia Apple Protocal (CAP) going on the following
hard/software:

SGI: 4D/210 VGX 
IP: 128.100.100.3
OS:  3.3.1
CAP: Verion 6.0 patch level 100
Bridge: Kinetics (Shiva) Fastpath, level 5 firmware, IP: 128.110.100.128
Network: IPTalk with net address 100.3

atalk.local looks like
# mynet         mynode          myzone
100.03         3               CVRTIIP
# bridgenet     bridgenode      bridgeIP
100.03         128             128.110.100.128

I have placed help notices in comp.protocal.appletalk but with no luck so
far. Problem is that we get everything made and run getzones or atlook and
get no reponse (well, getzones says error -1096 getting zone list).

Any help would be MUCH appreciated.

Rob.

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From: davis@masig4.ocean.fsu.edu (Alan Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: libreadline.a
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:46:10 GMT


  I have an urgent need for a working version of the libreadline.a from GNU,
that works on the IRIS 4.0.1.  TIA.
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From: rlafolle@duchamp.nswc.navy.mil (Robert D. LaFollette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 3D Model Library
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:48:37 GMT



	As of November 14, 1991, there was a database of 3D models
for public use at cs.uoregon.edu.   I tried to ftp the models from
this site but I did not know the correct login procedures.  Does 
anyone know the login procudures for this site, or if someone 
already has these models could I get them from you.

			Thank you !



		Attn: Code N40MP   Robert LaFollette 
		Dahlgren Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
		Dahlgren, VA 22448-5000

		(703)663-4749   autovon 249-4749
		FAX (703)663-4749
		Email   rlafoll@see.nswc.navy.mil
			rlafoll@128.38.15.54
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sgi:7050 comp.unix.ultrix:3898
From: jdh@bu-pub.bu.edu (Jason Heirtzler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: ERROR rmtgetb recv
Keywords: dump, dec, sgi
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:39:26 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sgi
Organization: Boston University, Information Technology

Has anyone seen this error?  The machines are

	sgi - indigo running 4.0.1 (same problem on 4.0.3)
	dec - a decstation-3100 ultrix 4.2

sgi#  dump 0fds dec:/dev/rmt0h 54000 6000 /dev/usr
  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Apr 13 16:46:24 1992
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/rusr (/usr) to /dev/rmt0h on host dec.bu.edu
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 336593 tape blocks on 0.19 tape(s).
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
  DUMP: Couldn't read from remote tape
  DUMP: ERROR rmtgetb recv, disconnecting from dec.bu.edu
  DUMP: write failed
  DUMP: Tape write error 0 feet into tape 1
  DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no")

The decstation has a exabyte tape drive, and is (I am told) being used
as a backup machine, without any problem for other vendors.. except for
the Indigo (the only SGI these people have), so would tend to rule out
some of the usual causes, like anything in the decstations /.cshrc that
would echo things to stdout.

This is actually someone else's machine(s).  A similiar setup works fine
for me, so the obvious conclusion would be that they've got a config prob
somewhere..

Has anyone else noticed the SGI hotline now takes 4 days to call you
back?  I thought they had lost my call!  I know things must be busy with
4.0 and all, but this is almost as bad as Sun used to be.  Don't get me
wrong; all the SGI folks on the net are fantastic.  The company ought to
pay you people extra.


Jason Heirtzler           (617) 353-2780       jdh@bu-pub.bu.edu
Information Technology    Boston University    ..!bu.edu!bu-pub!jdh  

"And now the sound of John Denver being strangled.."
From: umeyer@oncidium.cscs.ch (Urs Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: restore rN bug?
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:24:05 GMT
Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico, Manno

Hello

According to the manual page, restore rN allows to read the entire
tape to verify the dump.  This seems to work fine for level 0 dumps.
However, for incremental dumps I get the following error message:

# restore rNvf /dev/nrtape
Not writing anything to disk
Verify tape and initialize maps
Tape block size is 32
Dump   date: Fri Apr 17 17:15:30 1992
Dumped from: Fri Apr 17 17:11:05 1992
Level 7 dump of / on oncidium:/dev/root
Label: none
Begin incremental restore
Initialize symbol table.
open: No such file or directory
cannot open symbol table file ./restoresymtable
abort? [yn] n

This happens also when I read the dump from tape to a diskfile and try
to restore from the diskfile.

Is this a bug?  What can be suggested to verify incremental dumps?

NB: what is the correct way to write several dumps on the same tape?


(Environment: 310VGX, IRIX 4.0.1, WangDAT Model 1300 02.0BFW0.)


-- 

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umeyer@cscs.ch, Tel: +41-91-50-8206, Fax: +41-91-50-6711
From: tim@resmel.bhp.com.au (Tim Monks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Possible bug in Font Manager library ???
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:47:42 GMT
Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories, AUSTRALIA


Bug in Font Manager libraries ???


I have a pure gl program that uses the FM routines extensively.  Ever
since our upgrade to Irix 4 I have been having occaisonal segmentation
faults that trace back to the fmprstr routine.  Here's the background :

Machine:	Indigo running Irix 4.0.2
Compilation:	cc -xansi -fullwarn -woff 269 -DSCREEN_SIZE=1024          \
                   -DDOUBLEBUFFER -DRGBMODE -I../forms -I -I/usr/include  \
		   -g -prototypes  -L. -L../forms  temper.o -o temper1024 \
		   -ltemper -lforms_1024                                  \
		   -lmalloc -lc_s -limage -lfm_s -lgl_s -lm

		   (Note order of libraries - as stated in Graphics Library
                    Windowing & Font Library Programming Guide, pg.4-29)
dbx stuff:


moloch > dbx temper1024
dbx version 2.40 2/21/92 13:31
Type 'help' for help.
Reading symbolic information of `temper1024' . . .
Process name from core dump: temper1024
Process died at pc 0xf01502c of signal : Segmentation fault
[using memory image in core]
(dbx) t
>  0 __text(0x1012a8c0, 0x7fffbff0, 0x18b, 0x10146000, 0x0, 0xf015e08) [0xf015028]
   1 _cc_text_ci(0x1012a8c0, 0x7fffbff0, 0x18b, 0x10146000, 0x2b, 0xe805438) [0xf014cb4]
   2 gl_drawbitmap(0x1012a8c0, 0x7fffbff0, 0x18b, 0x10146000, 0x7fffc018, 0x7fffc014) [0xf015e04]
   3 f_fmprstr(0x1012a8c0, 0x7fffbff0, 0x18b, 0x10146000, 0xf01a668, 0x45cf4c) [0xe805434]
   4 fmprstr(0x1012a8c0, 0x7fffbff0, 0x18b, 0x10146000, 0x7fffc188, 0x7fffc188) [0xe82b8d0]
   5 fl_drw_text_cursor(align = 4, x = 105.0, y = 622.0, w = 75.0, h = 22.0, c = 0, size = 7.0, style = 0, str = 0x100d8f1c = "draw map  ", cc = 0, pos = -1) ["/ipada/tim/bhpm/tem_interp/forms/draw.c":439, 0x45cf48]
   :
   :
   : 

I have tried to find a memory bug in my code (the usual cause of Seg. faults)
but with no success. I've turned off font caching in the hope that may do
something, with no avail. 

Has anyone got a clue on how I could get to the cause of this bug...

TIA, one very frustrated programmer...
--
Dr Tim Monks
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From: dellwo@calgary.scs.uiuc.edu (Martin J. Dellwo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: How About a Word Processor with IRIX 4.0.X?
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:59:21 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign)

In article <30058@adm.brl.mil> fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.) writes:
>
>Earlier I wrote: [and wrote]
>|> I've always thought that with a little work, Showcase would
>|> fit the bill for this perfectly. Just enhance the text features
>|> to provide things like centering etc. (Hint, hint, sgi).
...
>| Ok, I have been bombarded with messages to the effect that showcase does
>| centering ...UNCLE!
...
>| I can think of two ... (1) automatic linking of text boxes at the end 
>| of a page a la Frame ... (2) a better grid and snapping capability so
...
>I stand corrected, it does do this ... choose the document template
>in set template.
>
>Some one else mentioned earlier that it does not do page numbers ...
>Wrong, it does this as well.
>
>However, I'd still like to see a better grid and snapping capability.
>Especially a better grid.  The points in the current grid are sort
>of uneven with respect to the sides (Although at the rate I'm going
>I'm expecting a merssage that says you can reset that as well).

Just admit it already!  It's great.

-MJ:)
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