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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Star Trek XII: So Very Tired
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:05:07 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

In article <1d8s54INNm1l@chnews.intel.com> smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~) writes:
>
>It was great, I liked Kirk talking to himself...
>Stephen

Actually, I think my favorite part was where the Starfleet Medical Corps
made the fateful decision to switch off the life support systems
connected to Kirk and the rest of the bridge crew.  I felt that putting
them all back abord the Enterprise afterward and setting the navigation
controls for the sun was a particularly moving touch.

Too bad that that scene occurred two and half minutes into the film.  It
kind of made the rest of the movie drag.  It's a long and uneventful two
hours flying abord the Enterprise when your heading towards the sun at
impulse power.

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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Ship's computer's knowledge of crew locations
Date: 7 Nov 92 06:41:33 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <Bx9Ktz.EG1@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cbsmith@mobius01.math.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Smith) writes:
<-- 
<Ok, I think that this was actually clarified on Schisms. Basically, the computer
<can monitor people's based on when they pass certain points. I imagine the
<computer checks everytime it opens a door to see who it's opening the door
<for. I imagine not just anyone can be located by anyone. I *do* assume though that when people are on a working shift that it would be perfectly ok for the
<computer to be able to locate them. I think people would have there own personal
<hangups about being located and tracked down, and in the "future" those hangups
<would be respected. Being easily locatable can be *very* convenient. Consider someone who has to be on call at all times.
<
<--Bo ("the One who Knows")

Location is determined by the comm badge.  It knows who is assigned to the
the comm badge, so it knows where you are.  If the comm badge goes away,
so does the crew person.

This has been pointed out many times by the removal of the badge.  It is a plot
hole, because not only should the computer know the location of the comm badge,
it should know if it is near a warm body.  The sensors can also be used to
determined locations of all warm bodies.  Match bodies to badges.

The use of doors to track personnel has not been done.
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From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: RASCALS (with a spoiler or 2)
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:51:43 GMT
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

***** minor spoilers *****
 ((you have been warned))

well, I know I'm going to get flamed for this one...

But I think Rascals is the 2nd best eppisode of the season! (the best being
True-Q, or whatever it's name was).

some notes (I'll be brief, I know you've seen it all before)

*  ANOTHER transporter accident?? please!

*  The Ferengi *DID* take over the enterprise way to quick....

*  Why couldn't picard regain controll of the computer himself??

*  the children were *PERFECT* for their parts.  mark one up for the casting dept.

*  The plot wasn't _that_ bad.. over-used, yes, but it was pulled off rather well.

*  the Ferengi were perfect (they were gullable... what'd you expect from 'em??)

*  Why wasn't riker taken to the planet??  why weren't the kids taken to the
   planet??  surely there could have been _some_ use for the kids in that
   operation...

*  (ok, so I don't have many comments)

this season is REALLY dragging badly.... and I _*HATE*_ the new teaser music!

and I am _NOT_ looking forward to 'a fistfull of datas'.  sorry, but hasn't data
had ENOUGH of being the 'bad guy' during malfunctions/etc??

I don't even think I'm gonna bother watching that one.. oh, well...

:)
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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Shatner Script
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:19:05 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca

As for the age question, I believe Patrick Stewart is 51.

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From: mwalker@novell.com (Mel Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Rascals -- Fountain of Youth!
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:53:41 GMT
Organization: Society for Anarchic Totalitarianism
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In article <1992Nov11.215555.24709@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Charles Jacob
Cohen, charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu writes:
>I'm glad someone else noticed this.  The federation now has the ability
>to make everyone young.  You never have to die of old age, just pop
someone
>into the transporter and take out that RNA or whatever.  Take out the 
>correct ammount and you are a young adult.  Ugh. - Chuck

I'm sure they'll explain this away like they explained away the Genesis
Device. They almost had Instant Terraforming(tm), and it just didn't
work. I'm sure that using the TRD (Transporter Rejuvination Device(tm))
only works sometimes, or horribly kills 10% of the people, or only works
once, or 8 times, or something. Of course, we couldn't test it on animals
(perish the thought!!!!).

--Mel Walker
mwalker@novell.com
Disclaimer: Some Martians landed and stole my opinions. So if these
opinions sound like they're coming from Mars, that's why.
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From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Rascals: Kanamorites have missed the point again...
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:19:49 GMT

mefoster@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Mary Ellen Foster) writes:

>[Long article about Rascals deleted to save "bandwidth" - whatever that
>	 may be]

>AMEN!!!
>I loved this one!

I laughed at this one.  It was certainly funny ... *once*.

>We were watching it in residence Friday night and we all LOVED it!
>It was FUNNY!! 

Right ... but that's about all it had going for it. ;-)

>Star Trek does not HAVE to be perfectly consistent and serious all the time -
>it is ENTERTAINMENT!

Yes, but don't you expect it to be *reasonably* thought out instead of using 
a very slight variation on one of ST:TAS's episodes?  (remember the one where
the crew got turned to children?)

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From: schamber@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Sylvain Chamberland)
Subject: Re: Rascals: blooper (RVN?!!!)
Keywords: rascals, spoiler
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:21:35 GMT

In article <jstevens.721409509@cunews> jstevens@martha.carleton.ca (Jonathan Stevenson) writes:
>SPOILER ALERT!!!
>Everyone should have seen this episode by now, but just in case, here
>are the obligatory CRTL-L's:
>
>(Hope they worked this time!)

Nope... sorry... must depend on your editor. My previous one was able to
make these, my present one, no...
Let's do some LFs...








>Anyways, I thought the episode had potential, up to the point when
>Crusher did her little techno-babble speech on "genetics", and I
>started to steam a bit at the term RVN.  Shouldn't that be RNA, which
>any grade 11 high school student would know?!! Or is there some gap in
>my understanding of genetics (any genetisist, feel free to jump in
>here!)  How could Paramounts "Technical Advisors" miss such a glaring
>error?  They must think we are all stupid or something!

Well, I thought they had mistaken RNA for RVN when I had not seen the
episode (I always read spoilers before viewing the show, I can't resist...
;-) ), but now that I have seen the show, I have to agree with the person
who answered my post when I asked the same question last week...

They could not come up with anything realistic enough to explain the
shrinking of the crew, with the existing knowledge, so they invented a new
molecule, RVN. It was clear in Bev's explanation that they were talking of
a different molecule from RNA or DNA.

Of course, being a "geneticist-to-be", I can tell you such molecule does
not exist and will never exist. We know pretty well the biochemical structure
of the cell now, so I don't think we would have missed such "molecule".
(Well, I'm pretty sure...  ;-)  )

Of course, as someone said earlier, this is S-F, so they can say what they
want...

>    JJ DDDD   SSSS     Jonathan D Stevenson                     
>    JJ D  DD SS  SS    Dept. of Aero & Mech. Engineering     
>    JJ D  DD  SS       Carleton University (Ottawa, Canada) 
>JJ  JJ D  DD SS  SS    E-Mail: jstevens@ccs.carleton.ca        
> JJJJ  DDDD   SSSS          

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From: anderson@scs.unt.edu (Richard Anderson (Lab 3460))
Subject: Offensive Question
Keywords: COST OF LIVING
Organization: School of Community Service, UNT
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:53:44 GMT

I'm new to this group and until recently only a casual viewer of ST:TNG (ie. 
I haven't seen every episode and I don't always remember the titles of the 
episodes I've seen).  Cost of Living seems to be generally considered the 
worst ST:TNG episode written yet (but THIS season's not over).  What is the 
plot line of this episode?  Is it the one where Riker has all the flashbacks?

rich.
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From: amcmicha@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Andrew McMichael)
Subject: All new review
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:36:01 GMT

Sorry to have ruined the day of over 19 people by pasting my
'True-Q' review to the article I titled a 'Schisms' review.  I
hope this won't cause any premature deaths.





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From: cse0611@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Virtual Generation!!!
Date: 4 Nov 92 20:49:47 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

Has anyone heard of the virtual reality project that Spectrum Holobyte
is working on to develop a 50 person game simulating the Next Generation
including bridge, engineering and holodeck??  I believe they were 
contracted by Universal to develop this system to be placed in local
malls for an estimated playtime cost of 0.50-1.00/minute...

Pre-cybernetic Engineer

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From: delledg@uts.cc.wayne.edu (DeVaughn Elledge)
Subject: Re: STVII: Kill Kirk !
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit Mich.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:39:30 GMT

In article <1689DE034.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.155541.17756@samba.oit.unc.edu>
>Denes.House@launchpad.unc.edu (Denes House) writes:
>>
>>	Yes! Yes! Yes!
>>I wanted Kirk to die a hero in Trek 6, but he did not. (Iloved Trek 6
>>nonetheless). Kill him well, you do a service to his legend.
>   Yeah, then do we really want to have STVIII: The Search for Kirk?
>     (OK, this was an obvious joke; it was a dirty job but someone had
>to do it.)
> 
>    JUNSOK YANG (YANJUNA@YALEVM.YCC.EDU)

 Or even better: STVIII: The Wrath of Kirk. 

(flame suit on, Captian!)

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From: fielden@spot.Colorado.EDU (j. a. fielden)
Subject: Re: More thoughts on True Q
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:47:33 GMT

In article <92308.120255ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.102416.1@stsci.edu>, morrissey@stsci.edu says:
>>>       So did anyone else crack up when Data said Amanda's parents were
>>> killed in Kansas by a tornado?  What Data and Picard don't know is that
>>> Amanda's parents were actually transported to the Land of Oz.  Let's see...
>>> Data needs a heart, Worf needs courage, Troi needs a brain.  Sorry, folks,
>>> it's pretty late at night and I'm in a weird mood.
>>>
>>
>>Yes, yes, yes!!!!  I'm glad I wasn't the only one. The people I was
>>watching it with just looked at me like there was something wrong with
>>me when I burst out laughing.
>>
>>Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...
>>
>>
>  I noticed that myself...the allusion to OZ. I was also noticing the way that
> Q would use his powers at the snap of a finger or just stay still whereas the
> girl had to move her arms in sort of a wavy motion...can anyone say
> "Bewitched"? Probably wasn't intentional...
>
>
>  Al
>

 Yes! There was a group of about 15 watching it after CU humiliated itself
at NU and we were all cracking up over it and making lots of OZ jokes. 
One wonders if it was deliberate on the part of the writers.


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From: jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (A Professional Tom Wopat Impersonator)
Subject: Re: ---< Fistful o' Datas >--- Synopis & *S*
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:06:23 GMT

My esteemed colleague, jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley) writes:

>rob@zorro.cecer.army.mil (Rob Knauerhase) writes:
>:)In <1992Nov10.193552.28757@cbfsb.cb.att.com> hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz) writes:
>:)>In article <1992Nov10.073856.11079@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>:)>>I'd reckon there be spoilers here,....sir

>:)>>to duck.  Worf quickly activates his shield which reflects the 6 shots from
>:)>THis makes its own comment on the quality of the writing and the
>:)>editing.

>:)Actually, from memory, I believe the shield was supposed to last some number
>:)of seconds (15?).  So the trick was to activate it at the right time to
>:)catch several bullets.

>The shield was unstable and would probably not last more than 15 seconds.
>It phased out a little less than 15 seconds. Getting off 6 shots in
>that period of time is *easily* doable, as well as a few clicks for 
>effect.

>:)Did anyone VCR tape the episode to check, or should we just wait until
>:)Saturday's repeat?

>Or see if someone remembers?  :)

Flipping back through the tape, "Data"'s last shot is fired 7 seconds after
Worf activates the shield, which dies two and one half seconds later.

I'm sorry, but I LIKED the sunset.  Now if only the ship had somebody into
old movies, like Diane Duane's Jerry Richardson character (_My Enemy, My
Ally_ and others,) maybe we could've taken the whole crew and done a
holodeck "Silverado".

Or maybe not.  Alexander and Barkley are no Lawrence Kasdan.


-- 
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From: thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas G. Kiefer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Poor, poor, pitiful Worf
Date: 9 Nov 1992 21:29:39 GMT
Organization: Nope, just me.
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In article <1992Nov9.003352.29868@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
>I could not help but note that _Rascals_ should go down as the demise of
>Worf, former Klingon Warrior, who cannot hit the broad side of a barn with
>his phaser.

Frustrating, isn't it?  How whoever the writers want to miss/lose suddenly
can't shoot at all, and whoever is to hit/win becomes a super-marksbeing?

>I would have thought that losing to Guinan would have spurred Worf to new
>heights, practice becoming a major, central part of his life, but alas,
>that has apparently not been the case.

Hey.  That's not fair.  Like Guinan said when she beat Worf: "I've been
doing this long before you were born."  Remember, she's OLD (to us).

>I don't know if anyone noticed it, but Alexander was more the warrior.
>How ironic, isn't it?
>
>Anyway, I hope Data goes easy on Worf next week, since Worf needs a break.

If we're lucky, we'll get to see Worf regain his Klingon warrior image.
Maybe?  Could happen.

(I guess I'll find out tonight.  If nothing else, I can't wait to see
Brent Spiner *perform*!)
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From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Re: A Fistful of Datas comment
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:52:22 GMT

In article <56LwTB1w164w@jwt.UUCP> bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP (Rick Harrison) writes:
> "A Fistful of Datas" is not a very serious episode... more
> like "The Trouble with Tribbles"... those of you who have pet
> cats will identify with Data's encounter with Spot.

"A Fistful of Datas" is the worst TNG episode of all time.

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From: rui@r-node.gts.org (Rui M. Pereira)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: "Rascals" spoiler:  Fountain of Youth
Summary: youth
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:46:25 GMT
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)


Wow!  ST finally comes up with a FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH and THEY DON'T EVEN
NOTICE IT!!!

Just imagine:  You are 120+ and getting older every day.  You step up
to a transporter, have your RNA/RVN removed, and bingo, you get to
experience another 120 years ...

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From: bak@fraser.sfu.ca (Jason Bak)
Subject: Ferengi are Gods! (minor spoilers)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:54:28 GMT

Like I said minor spoilers.

	If six ferengi can take overpower a crew of 1014 I shall dub
them Gods!  Why didn't anyone think of going to the weapons room and
getting a few phasers?  I won't even mention Worf.  Hopefully next
week he'll make a comeback. (ya right).

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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Sirtis' height
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:01:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: rivers.1992Nov9.130113.292
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls


Minor spoiler for "Rascals" ahead




This was scary, but compare the heights of the kid Picard and Troi
when they are talking in his quarters....
Picard was taller!    

Marina Sirtis is _very_ definitely _very_ short.


Steven.K.Manfred
From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Gilligan's Island --> ST:TNG
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:10:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Nov11.221027.1345
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <1992Nov11.202425.26718@indetech.com> janet@indetech.com (Janet Christian) writes:
>In response to someone's comment about a Star Trek Gilligan's Island
>being better than Rascals, here you go:
>
Great Poem deleted to save bandwith:

>[Ever wonder why Ginger had a trunk full of clothes and the Howles had so
>much stuff if they were on a tiny ship for a 3 hour tour?]
>
>-- 
>   Janet Christian             jchristian@indetech.com

You obviously have never met my sister-in-law.  6 suitcases for a one-day
visit!  Sheesh!!!!!!!!

Marg


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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG Grade Report: "Rescals"
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:43:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Nov09.224318.14921
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Originator: clin@capacitance.eng.umd.edu


Spoilers


In article <rawdon.721347375@cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
[comments on O'Brien's kid]

    It seems that writers don't like to have babies in plots since they can't
say anything, so they conveniently age them so that they are useful.  They
conveniently did this in several series (Family Ties with the same kid
playing Alexander, and Married With Children).

    The plot wasn't really that good though they got pretty good children
to act the parts.   Guinan's younger self, and Ro's younger self seemed the
most realistic, then Keiko, then Picard.   Physically, the person who
played young Keiko didn't look that much like Keiko, and neither did
young Picard.   Still, two out of four ain't bad. 

     I suppose the plot could have potentially been a lot worse (they could
have actually returned back without their memories), and I wouldn't have
liked to seen that.   For once, Alexander was seen but not heard.  Seems
to be an improvement.

--
Charles Lin
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