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From: Janet.Cole@f9.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Janet Cole)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: Project idea
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:29:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/9 - Rimrock BBS, Billings MT

My 4th & 5th grade students at Pioneer School, Dist. #41, Billings, 
MT, USA, would like to develop a project around endangered plants 
and animals on this network. Would anyone be interested in 
communicating with us? The project would involve the participants 
sending us information about endangered species in their local 
areas. Any replies greatly appreciated.

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From: Michael.Brown@f340.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Brown)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: Geography Game
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:16:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/340 - KC Heffernan Elem, Marcellus NY


Helen,
    I am assisting our district Gifted and Talented teacher, Julie Dermody, in
 developing a Geography Game for 6 schools.  You can read Julie's announcement
 in the Social Studies echo.  Our school is in Marcellus, NY, just west of
 Syracuse.  We are new at this...
    Question:  If we have our 6 schools organized, would it even be possible
 to get a closed channel for this project by March 1?  If so, how soon might
 you need to know?
    Thanks!

                Michael Brown



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From: Helen.Sternheim@f110.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: Project idea
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:25:39 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/110 - Physics Forum, Amherst MA

In a message of <25 Jan 93  21:29:00>, Janet Cole (1:3400/9) writes:

 JC>My 4th & 5th grade students at Pioneer School, Dist. #41, Billings, MT, 
 JC>USA, would like to develop a project around endangered plants and 
 JC>animals on this network. Would anyone be interested in communicating 
 JC>with us? The project would involve the participants sending us 
 JC>information about endangered species in their local areas. Any replies 
 JC>greatly appreciated.
 JC>---
Can you construct an outline of how you would want the information reported  
and what types of facts would be of interest?  Sounds like an interesting  
topic to explore. 



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From: Richard.Robertson@p6.f556.n640.z3.fidonet.org (Richard Robertson)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: ESP Project
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 93 20:46:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/556.6 - OZ SPACE MAIL, Durack Qld Australia

Hello Everyone!

I am thinking about starting a project that attempts to measure an ESP effect. Any expressions of interest are welcome. I only ask that those of you who would like to participate would be prepared to respond to a small survey initially followed by up to three tests.  Can you also let me know if you have netmail access (I can do fidonet here as well).  If there are sufficient numbers I will be in a position to email each of you a small information kit regarding the project.  After the testing and analysis t



he results will be made public.  Please bear with me as this is my first attempt at using email as a survey source. 

Regards and thanks in advance,

Richard.


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From: Mike.Connealy@p0.f104.n305.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Connealy)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel5
Subject: Re: telecom software
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 00:33:14 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:305/104.0 - The Eclectic Compan, Las Cruces NM

 > Do you know good telecommunication software including mailer,
 > BBS and tosser who may be used really free of charge by
 > schools ?
-------
  Opus-CBCS is a complete bbs program for which there is no charge. 
Users of the program who wish to express appreciation for the world- wide effort to develop and maintain the software are encouraged to make a donation to the American Foundation for AIDS Research, AmFAR, at 5900 Wilshire Boulevard, Second Floor, East Satellite, Los Angeles, 90036-5032 USA.
 
  The nearest OPUSinfo node to your location is Fidonet 2:200/420 
at Lund, Sweden, bbs phone +46-46-138039. 


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From: Giedo.Custers@f104.n292.z2.fidonet.org (Giedo Custers)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel5
Subject: teachers' training and telecom
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 21:44:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:292/104 - Dwarsfluit, Bree

In a msg on <Jan 15 18:46>, Georges Verloove of 32:2/500.1 writes:

 >Is there a way to simulate locally between 2 computers the working 
 >of GV: a mailer GV: software or a BBS software ?

Hello, Georges,
now writing to you in English (it'll be for when in Dutch or German?)

I think I've got some stuff you may be interested in: it is a demo-programm edited by the Dutch PPT-telecom in collaboration with 'Stichting leerplanontwikkeling'.
It gives a quit good idea about what is telecommunication and makes simulations on each computer.

They published a little book about it.

The programm is not public domain.  I can always give you further info, not a copy, alas!


 >GV: Thanks for any advice.

No thanks,

giedo


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From: Andrew.Webster@p0.f45.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Andrew Webster)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel5
Subject: Do you have internet address?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 10:24:46 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/45.0 - SPQR, Edmonton AB

7
Andre,
      This mat not be the right CH to ask you a simple question but I know of no other way. Do you have an internet address (e.mail address) that I could reach you at? As you are from europe I wanted to ask you 1 question that I'd rather ask privately.
If so let me know.

interernet: andy-w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 

thanks...



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From: Sue.Graham@p2.f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Sue Graham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: class exchange
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:45:18 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505.2 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

I am a teacher of 7and 8 year olds in New Zealand. I am keen to establish contact with a class of a similar age with a view to exchanging : 1.  class letters on a regular basis - information about the class, school, city, weather, similarities and differences in lifestyle, any topics of interest, etc 2.  group letters on different subjects, and possibly 3. penpals.

One of the underlying purposes for the exchange (apart from adding interest to learning and living, and providing opportunities to use this technology which is new to us) is to enhance our Social Studies programme.

We live in Dunedin (close to latitude 45 south), a city of about 100,000 people and many old buildings, a beautiful harbour and beaches - too cold for most of us to swim in except on the very hottest days of summer! We have interesting wildlife close by with a royal albatross colony and yellow eyed penguins and lovely scenery in our area. Our school, Kaikorai Primary, has 10 teachers and about 270 children from 5 to 10 years.

 I am open to any suggestions and look forward to hearing from you.

Sue Graham

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From: halfords@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Student Teacher Hello All
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:10:44 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

Hi, I am a student teacher at the University of Victoria B.C. Canada. I am
working on a project which involves telecommunications with an education focus. 
I am looking for some students (preferrably in my time zone, unless someone
knows how to get around time differences), that would be willing to take part
in a workshop that I will be putting on in mid-March. I hope to connect 8
people here with 8 students out there for about a 10-15 minute exchange using
the 'Talk'? command. I'm not sure if 'Talk' is right or if there is another way
to do this. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 
                        Thanks Steve Halford
P.S. I'm new to this system and this is my first posting, so I am not sure
if replys should be sent by e-mail to my address or posted on the news group? I
would certainly be aware of e-mail replys, but am afraid that I may miss news
group posted replys. Is there a system that would alert me of any replys to my
query via the news group? Thankyou all.=}
From: Tony.Suba@p0.f120.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Tony Suba)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Positive Impact of Computers on Education
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:40:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:231/120.0 - Some Place BBS, Indianapolis IN

I need information on the positive effects that computers have had 
on eduction.  This is for a research english paper.  Any books, 
newpaper or magizine articles would be helpful.  Please E-mail tsuba 
the information for his daughter. 
                 Thank You !!

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From: pnewberr@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Pamela B. Newberry)
Subject: Re: Classroom Discipline
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:31:46 GMT

Dave,
I really enjoyed reading your suggestions.  I have been using
folders for several years.  I thought having 110 was a lot.
One idea I would like to share -- I changed the folders my
students use everyday, we call them work folders.  These
folders are used just as you have suggested.  I try to give
feed back and keep a personal touch.  What I have changed is
that I supplied the students with another folder and we call
them assessment folders.  These assessment folders become their
portfolios.  About three to four weeks into a grading period,
we take time in class to evaluate the work the work folder
contains.  The students choose three or more items they think
show how they have improved, or maybe how they were confused
one lesson and improved the next time.  These papers they put
an "F" on for FAVORITE.  I inturn tell them to mark two to four papers
I want them to place in their assessment folder.  Often the
papers I want are also the Favorite papers.  They place a "T"
on them for teacher.  The students then write a cover letter
explaining their growth in class since the last assessment, or
where they may had trouble.  They tell me all sorts of things;
things I enjoy reading and sometimes things I need to read.  I
use these "portfolios" to help me see how my students have
grown.  I am hoping to eventually encourage all the teachers in
my department to do the same so that the portfolio could travel
with the student.  It really gives you insight into the thinking
processes of the student. 

I love the use of using the folders as attendance.  For some
odd reason I never did use them as a means of taking roll.  Oh,
I do put make-up work in them, but I never made the connection
to use them to check on students who were absent.  Mainly,
because of the way I grade homework.  It's all on effort.  I
teach Math and I don't see how a student is suppose to learn in
one night what has taken most of man kind centuries to
understand.  Therefore, I grade on whether they attempted the
problems or not.  Not whether they are right or wrong.  I
always hated that in school.

I look forward to seeing any additional suggestions you may
have.  We all could use ideas ....to help us help our students
realize ALL of them CAN LEARN!!!!!!!! If we only would give them
a chance and they would believe in themselves.

Cheers,
Pam
George Wythe High School
Wytheville, Virginia
From: Connie.Mark@f6.n345.z1.fidonet.org (Connie Mark)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Wetlands
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 06:27:15 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:345/6 - Leeward School Dist, Honolulu HI

Hello George!! I didn't know you had gone on holidays. Where did you visit? I was in DC for Christmas. I have read that article on wetlands in the National Geographic. Very interesting ideas and pictures. While in DC I also visited The National Geographic Building. Very interesting place also...lots of hands-on and learning stuff. My class is getting along fine, we worked on a study of Antarctica and penguins and stuck in some stuff about the environment. What wetland areas did you visit?? Keep in touch!..
Connie


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From: Roland.Gesthuizen@p3.f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Roland Gesthuizen)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: HS pen pal
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 93 01:52:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155.3 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

Hi Phil, I noticed on one of your letters here that;

PF>As it happens I'm one of the movers in establishing an educational network
PF>incorporating a penpal BBS and many other international conference
PF>channels here in New South Wales, Australia.
PF>The system is being established by my organisation, Pacific Power,
PF>(the state's electricity authority) as a PR gesture to the education
PF>community.

This corporate involvement and sponsorship sounds VERY interesting!
for reasons that I cannot just go into now...

Could you please send me some details about it as I am sure that the
Victorian Ednet SYSOPS would probably be _very_ keen to hear more about
it!

Email me on Roland Gesthuizen        SYSOP 3:633/155.3
            Computer Manager         Roland@csource.oz.au

or Snail mail at Syndal Campus, Glen Waverley Secondary College
                 Medina Road, Glen Waverley, Vic 3150  Australia.


PF>Pacific PowerNet utilises our own extensivetelecommunications network

What role will the NSW Ministry of Ed play.. if any?

Kind regards Roland


 * SLMR 2.1a * Syndal Mail Point Glen.Wav.Sec.College Melb. Australia


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From: Ralph.Luedtke@p0.f45.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Ralph Luedtke)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Grade 7 Social Studies
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 20:50:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/45.0 - SPQR, Edmonton AB

f1
Hello out there!  We have a grade 7 social studies class at Notre Dame  School in Morinville, Alberta that is studying cultures within Canada.   We would like to link up with a class from anywhere in Canada, but would  prefer some viewpoints from Eastern or Northern Canada.  Currently we are  discussing how much people who live in Canada should be encouraged to  retain their ethnic or cultural heritage.  We'd love to set up an  exchange of ideas.  Hope to hear from you!!



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From: Terry.Bowden@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Bowden)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Your name in ()
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 13:08:16 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

 > From: adri0001@student.tc.umn.edu ()
 > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:57:44 GMT
 > Organization: University of Minnesota
 > Message-ID: <adri0001.727995464@student.tc.umn.edu>
Could you please put your name between the () in the top line
above?
When your message gets into FidoNet, that is where it looks
to find your name.  Sadly, your message came across as
   From:
with a blank name.  That would help.  Thanks
Terry Bowden  in NZ


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From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Hawks BBS
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:36:29 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Carol,

Congratulations on being sysop to Hawks BBS!  Your teachers will
enjoy this new world, and so will their students!

Julie


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From: aa591@Freenet.carleton.ca (Basil Halhed)
Subject: Re: Build a city?
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:21:25 GMT


SHere in Ottawa, canada,Candadada, Sim City is
used in a number of high schools in grade 9 geography classes.  It
seems like a great tool.  Also, SimAnt is great for teaching/
learning about social interacyttions at the insect level,
also great.

Then there is Sim Earth, like SimCity but on a macro level.  Their
latestwhiz-bang is SimLife, lets you experiment with evolution
and even alter genes, the environment and other things.

All these programmes are great, both for teaching, and to let
children (ages ~10 and up) have some fun, too.

Good luck!
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From: Carol.Hooper@f105.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: re: Hawks Bbs
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 22:10:39 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/105 - Hawks BBS K12Net, El Paso TX

I love it!  What a fanfare!  Thanks for the warm and noisy salutation!


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From: Iain.Macpherson@f405.n622.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Macpherson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Wetlands
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 05:25:54 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:622/405

GB>How is your class going. Lois and I visited several wetland
GB>areas over Christmas and picked up some of the information they
GB>had on display.  I'll summarize it for you on another memo. 

       Would you like to be on the mailing list for som e interesting stuff from the Shortland Wetlands centre here in Australia? 

       I could help you make contact.


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From: Elizabeth.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Elizabeth Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: LIBRARIES
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:31:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Suzy, thanks for your reply. I have been away on holiday for 2 weeks in the sun at the beach. However we go back to school on Feb 2. I am going into school tomorrow and hope to find that a new computer plus modem is being set up in the library. 
What age students do you teach? I am hoping to have groups of 14 yr old students looking at the lives of other 14 yrs olds around the world and want some or all to have a go at Ebbs. We will download replies and write answers off line but they can have a go at phoning in at some stage. 
I think they will work out survey questions according to the topic concerning daily life that the group is researching - eg. one group looking at education may work out questions about education in USA or another country.
I'm looking for people to correspond with - probably in mid/late feb.
Cheers, Liz .


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From: Holly.Wolf@f615.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Holly Wolf)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: quality
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 07:24:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/615 - Scholasticom, Palmyra NY

What periodicals regularly give comparative or critical reviews of textbooks? 

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From: Connie.Mark@f6.n345.z1.fidonet.org (Connie Mark)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Teaching Kids To Read
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:27:07 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:345/6 - Leeward School Dist, Honolulu HI

To Iain: *smile* ... you 'ditto'..most of my statements, except the part.....*smile*...."every approach she knows"....don't you believe there are good things to be learned from approaches that are out there??? I still feel one can gather useful ideas and use it creatively with the class as needed.....*smile*...can you explain your statement???


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From: Susan.Baird@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Susan Baird)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: HELLO
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 21:27:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Hi again! I don't think you know me. I just got back from a fantastic 
exchange in Melbourne where they tried to set up a BBS link between Oz and 
Fredericton. Now, I'm at Forest Hill El.(Grade 5) so am hoping to get my 
computer kids into something like this.What level do you deal with usually? 
Thanks for the message.Regards Sue

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From: Iain.Macpherson@f405.n622.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Macpherson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Two Important Points
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 05:39:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:622/405

SK>Boy, it sure sounds like I spend all my time in class
SK>disciplining my
SK>class, but actually the opposite is true. I rarely have
SK>discipline
SK>problems. Part of it is because I try to keep the class moving
SK>and
SK>always having something to do. Part of it is because the
SK>students know
SK>from their experience with me that I mean what I say, and I mean
SK>business. And part of it is (I think) because of my reputation
SK>as a
SK>tough strict teacher (having taught at the same school for 10
SK>years can
SK>be an advantage).

Yes! (1) Keep the class moving with purposeful work/activities. As my old teacher used to say in religious instruction class back in the early sixties - `idle hands do the work of the devil'. (2) Be firm and fair and make sure that whatever consequences you mention are carried out.

My reputation is that I'm a dead-set softie for co-operative people but a nemesis for the time-robbers (for the kids who come to school to steal the other kids' learning time).

I talk openly to my classes and groups about the things that bug me before they get out of hand. (the ol' ``nip it in the bud'' theory at work). 

I tell kids when I'm slightly unwell or have a headache or the like and tell them if I'm short towards them that they've been warned in advance. Most accept this. I feel that by comparison to what I've seen going on in classrooms near mine, I have a very productive and reasobly friendly environment.
 


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From: Terry.Bowden@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Bowden)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Backlog OZ/NZ
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 09:09:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Last night messages entered into the K12 areas from about Jan 12 to Jan 17
arrived in Australia and New Zealand.
Apparently our messages have been getting out to the US most nights,
but the return flow was not coming.
Perhaps there are some problems at Randy Bush's machine, I don't know.
But if you find a lack of response to any messages destined for Australia
or NZ, and then some belated replies more than a week later, that might 
account for it.

Of course, the fact that schools are on vacation till early February
will also account for tardy replies!

Cheers,   Terry Bowden   K12 Regional Coordinator for New Zealand


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From: Carol.Hooper@f105.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: re: MathMagic
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 07:03:23 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/105 - Hawks BBS K12Net, El Paso TX

Sounds great, Roland.  Please see channel 2 for more info and the 
problem cycle.  I plan to continue the project and have no plans of 
stopping so look for Cycle 5 to begin on Feb. 8  Thanks


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