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From: csm1@cec2.wustl.edu (Christopher Scott Macri)
Subject: Re: Why the Jets?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:41:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.155725.2847@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>> Just wondering...Who did the Jets beat to get the Wildcard birth?
>> J-E-T-S--->JETS-JETS-JETS!
>
>You excluded alot of my stuff...I said if one of te two teams was guaranteed to
>unseat Buffalo I would pick the 'Phins because of explosive potential
>                                                            ^^^^^^^^^
>But the Jets have already been playing up to or over their heads (IMO) and
>until the get an explosive edge to them I do not see them going much further
>than they did last season...maybe the could advance to round 2, but without
>some home run threats, not much further.  Every other team that won a playoff
>game had at least some explosive capability.  The Chiefs are the only
>possible excaption because their explosiveness is on defense with Thomas.
>The Lions, Falcons, Redskins, Bills, Broncos, Oilers, and cowboys all have
>some potential for exploding, not the Jets.  I see the Bears in te same jam,
>and the Broncos if not for John "Miracle" Elway.  Miami has marino and Clayton
>and now Higgs...they lack D though so that is why NY won the game..like I said
>the first time if Miami gets D help ..they will by far surpass the jets.
>Brian Mulholland

I don't mean to pry again, but was it Clayton who had the audacity to 
guarantee a phin win over the underdog Jets. Talking words, like potential,
only goes as far as the locker room. You got to deliver. I am not 
saying that the Jets deserved the ring, but whether they played over their 
heads or not, they beat Miami.

As far as Shula is concerned, thats two games he's lost when a guarantee
was made..

Chris Macri
-The only Jet fan in the St. Louis Metro Area....
From: nsg@svl.cdc.com (N S Gupte)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: JETS Fans??????
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:40:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: shamash.40626

rlehman@thunder.watson.ibm.com (Robert C. Lehman) writes:

>The Jets also want to move Erik McMillan from safety to CB, and he's
>apparently unhappy about this.  I also read last week that Freeman
>McNeil had been re-signed for another season.


If the Jets want to make a trade, they should trade McMillan. He is one
of their only players of value and is obviously disgruntled about being
a nickle back. I can't remember how many times he has been juked out of 
his jock by Thurman Thomas, it's no wonder Thomas averages ~8yds/carry
against the Jets. They are better off with Lonnie Young at safety, Hasty
and Stargell at CB, and try to get some speed out of the draft.
--
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Control Data Corporation: CPG  - M/S B20
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From: un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Argo's looking for Rypien
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:31:22 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

The USA Today reproted that the Toronto Rocke...er...Argonauts are now
interested in Mark Rypien.  Considering the Ismail deal, this should attract
Rypien, or at least his accountant's attention.  I doubt seriously that
the deal will go down however, as Rypien just does not seem to me like
the type to jump.  I cannot put my finger on it but I do not believe
he will jump.  Of course all those 0's after the salary figure can change alot.

I wonder, how can the argonauts afford to make a deal for Rypien?  Granted
they have yet to make an offer but one would think that yopu caN outbid
the NFL for only so long (of course this was thought about the AFL to but
that is a different story)  How much dough can McNall and co. put up and
stay fiscally on the + side?

Any CFL fans heard more about the Argo's intentions?
Brian "Scoop" Mulholland
From: un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFC Rushing leaders projected....
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:43:31 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <zz!vjwf@rpi.edu>, ruthd@aix.rpi.edu (Davis Paul Ruth) writes:
> 1. Rodney Hampton 

Not a chance in hell.  Hampton is a good tough runner and 1,000 yards is
very do able for him, but to beat out Sanders, Smith and Co. you have to
be superhuman!

> 2. Barry Sanders

Believeable.  

> 3. Emmitt Smith

Also believeable

> 4> Herschel Walker

Not a chance in hell!  Walker will not even get 1,000 yards not to mention
close to  the rushing title!

> 5. Neal Anderson
> 
Not likely.  He has never gotten more tha 100 or 200 yards above 1,000
and to win the title you generally need at least (bare minimum) 1,400
but, lately many good young runners have been showing up, and next yer there
will be a boatload of 1,000 yarders.  those who I expect to break 1,000
next year:
Barry Sanders
Emmitt Smith
Thurman Thomas (where is he on your list?)
Marion Butts
Christian Okoye
Harold Green
Mark Higgs
Leonard Russell
Ricky Ervins
Rodney Hampton

I expect the rush title race to go:
Barry Sanders
Emitt Smith
Ricky Ervins
Thurman Thomas

and everyone else falls up behind them.
Brian Mulholland
From: v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (John of Gaunt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Any Bills Fans...
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr8.032659.22066@acsu.buffalo.edu>, apyted@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (T. Steegman) writes...
>Do any Bills fans have any recent info about the team? I'm from Buffalo,
>but I go to school in SmAlbany, and I havent heard a thing since the
>Super Bowl, other than what I have read here. Whats the deal with the
>coaching staff? I still have to pick the Bills in the East this year.
>Thanks in advance for any information.  This group has helped me through 
>the dark months between seasons.
>Go Bills!
> 
>Tom Steegmann 

	As I guess you know, Marchibroda left for Indianapolis.  Tom Bresnahan,
the Bills' former offensive line coach, has been promoted to offensive 
coordinator.  They have also hired a new quarterbacks coach.  Bresnahan is the
man responsible for building the Bills' offensive line, and he built it with a
power running game in mind.  So expect much more of that kind of play from the
Bills.  Also, the man they hired for a quarterbacks coach is one of the best in
the game, so expect improved performance from Kelly.
	Kelly hasn't the offseason knee surgery some people expected him to 
have, so hopefully his knee healed on its own.  Smith had surgery on his knee
again, so hopefully that improved it.

Snoopy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: hammond@sys6.serum.kodak.com (Kevin Hammond (x37516))
Subject: Re: Why the Jets?  Ditto!
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:50:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.142403.2835@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.161453.8237@acsu.buffalo.edu>, apyted@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (T. Steegman) writes:
>> I have seen more than a few predictions that the Jets are going to win
>> the AFC East. What are you people smoking? The Jets will be lucky to finish
>> third, behind Buffalo and Miami. Browning Nagle is no Jim Kelly, and Jeff
>> Lageman does not make up for the rest of the defense. Plus, Miami  surely
>> won't be as bad as everyone thinks. Just watch. The Jets will go 8-8 at best.
>> 
>> Tom Steegmann
>> Bills in 93, Cause I'm not getting any younger!
>
>
>I agree.  The Jets have 0 impact players outside of Lageman.  They don't know
>who's going to be their starting runner (I think Thomas/Baxter/Hector all
>split time last year right?)  McNeil is over the hill and cannot do it anymore.
>No proven QB (unless proven bad in O'Brien counts) Moore and Toon make an
>adequate but nothing special recievers Corps, I don't know about TE but I think
>they are weak there too, OL is good but not sensational. DL is the same with
>Lageman a possible exception, LB corps is nothing to brag about, and secondary
>has holes.  Where is this division winning team?  Granted they have made
>tremendous strides since they got Coslet but there is not enough power
>talent to launch a title campaign yet and the Jets management admitted it
>after the loss to Houston.  They need leaders.  While I think second is
>a reasonable goal first seems a stretch and second will not be easy if
>Miami gets their front defensive 7 help they are looking for plus the
>return of Offerdahl.  I see 7-9 or 8-8 maybe 9-7 as the Jets level unless
>some off-season  miracle happens.
>Brian Mulholland

I must disagree.  I am a Bills fan, but I do not dismiss the Jets as division
contenders.  

  I fear that the Bills will have a down year because of consecutive
Super Bowl losses, as well as because of a pretty crappy defense.  I also
expect more of the egotistical crap that we saw during Super Bowl week to 
weaken the Bills.  

  The Jets are a much better team than people give them credit for.  They
are not great, but I think that they have a shot at winning the AFC East, 
especially if the Bills falter.  One other comment on the Jets, the Bills
(and many other teams) would gladly trade all of their WRs to the Jets for
the Jet's receivers.

  Just my opinion...
From: un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: S.F. and Raiders.....
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:38:40 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

> Russell, you have oversimplified somewhat here. Lest ye forget, the 49ers 
> began the 90 season by signing both Craig and Lott to contract extensions 
> with significant pay-raises a major feature of same. They then ended the 90 
> season by Plan-B-ing both of them and demanding that both take a pay cut 
> *and* shorten their contracts... This is where Craig and Lott had problems. 
> Both players felt 'dissed' at being left on Plan-B, Craig so much as said so 
> on the interview following the Raider-49er game  but I don't think either 
> would have left if there had not been significant pressure for them to a) 
> make less money and b) play only one more season and then hang it up. Obviously,
> both these guys love the game and hanging it up will be extremely difficult 
> for both of them. By the same token, both got *more* money as opposed to less 
> money by going with the Raiders.  Blame? The word hardly seems appropriate
> really. The Niners underestimated the value these guys could command on the 
> open market as well as their leadership value to the team. They also hurt them 
> with their tactics. To the guy who maintains that Craig is obviously past his 
> prime, all I can say is this. The Raiders obviously have significantly more 
> talent at RB than they do at safety... Can you even name the guy who Lott 
> supplanted at his position? 
> 
> -- 
> Ronnie

The only reason Craig was signed, and got to start was the injury problems of
every RB they had.  At 1 point I believe the Raiders had Roger Craig and 1
fullback and hat was it (healthy I mean)  Craig did not play all that
great at LA, but he was good enough to keep the team from completely dying
when they lost Allen, Bell, and several others.  Lott is a FAR better FS
than Craig is a RB.
Brian Mulholland
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Play action fake back to Tampa
From: jroberts@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:10:20 CST
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City

I've been a Chiefs fan ever since I could remember.  From Ted McKnight to J.T.
Smith to Stephone Paige to the outstanding core of defensive backs they've had
(Gary Barbaro, Gary Green, Albert Lewis, Deron Cherry, Kevin Ross, etc.), I've
seen it all.  Now that they are contending for the championship again, I'm
becoming more sensitive to the personnel that they have in place.  One of them
was Steve DeBerg.  

Sure, he had a great year in 1990.  He three twenty-four touchdown passes and
only four interceptions.  Not bad for a guy who was thirty-four and played the
last game of the season with a pin in his right pinky.  I didn't think that
there was any way that he could duplicate that miracle season in '91.  Turns
out that he didn't; what he did do was prove that the Chiefs need another
quarterback.  His play was erratic, throwing interceptions left and right and
getting sacked thanks to his inability to manuever.

However, there's one bit of information that I didn't know about him.  During
the season, DeBerg went through the divorce.  And, coincidentally, this was
during the time that Vlasic was inserted into the starting lineup at
quarterback.  Could this be the reason he faltered in '91?  Or is he just a
washed-up veteran who should start thinking about a career in coaching?  He's
in Tampa Bay now, and I hope that he can put a little spark into the
Buccanears, because they need it.
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: No interest on Jerry Rice -- surprise??
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:44:21 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Apr6.131002.16019@ncsu.edu>, easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ) writes...

>I dunno.  Why not offer Rice a huge salary, but just big enough that
>you know Eddie D. will match it?  Jerry will make more money, making him
>happy, you don't lose anything and Eddie wallet is thinned a little.
>Afterall, if you have any def. players on plan B, chances are Eddie
>is trying to sign them out from under you.  Do onto others!
> 
>I've never understood why other clubs keep a "don't screw with SF"
>mentality.  Seems like Al Davis is the only owner in the NFL that
>isn't terrified of Eddie D.  Maybe this has something to do with 
>that Oakland/L.A. thing?

Most clubs have better things to do than to play with Eddie D's mind.

Besides half of the population of SF has moved to GB in the last 3 
months.  There's no "don't screw with SF mentality" here.  I doubt 
there's much thought along those lines in Chicago either.

John G. Heim                                 Email:  heim@macc.wisc.edu
**************** To boldly code what no one has coded before! ****************
From: amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL Expansion News!!! TSN picks St.Louis and Charlotte!
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:02:07 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Apr9.195935.6560@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>, jcoryell@nwu.edu (John Co
ryell.) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.151158.28810@unx.sas.com> sasbrb@rolypoly.unx.sas.com (Bre
ndan Bailey) writes:
>>
>>   Well, the March 23rd edition of The Sporting News contained a lengthy
>>article on the cities vying for the two NFL expansion to be awarded in the
>>fall.  The article "Eyes on the Prize" says "As the NFL expansion picture
>>comes into focus, St. Louis and the Carolinas look like the winners".
>>   NFL writer Chris Mortensen says the selection of St. Louis and Charlotte
>>makes sense in that it satisfies the "something-old, something-new" theory
>>for NFL expansion favored by Commissioner Taglibue.  Just how much does
>>Mortensen know?  About six months ago, he picked St. Louis and Baltimore
>>even though everyone knew about the one old-city/one new-city theory.  And
>>the previous week, he said to watch out for the surging Sacramento group.
>>Yeah, right.  Anyone who has been following NFL expansion at all would have
>>picked St. Louis and Charlotte as far back as 1989.
>
>Not at all.  Through the first half of 1990, Memphis and Charlotte were
>(justifiably) neck-and-neck; before that, Memphis I thought actually had
>the edge.  St. Louis has been virtually assured a franchise, and I agree
>that Charlotte is currently in a comfortable second.
>
>>    TSN ranks the top six candidates, in order, for hte two NFL expansion
>>franchises: 1) St. Louis, 2) Charlotte, 3) Memphis, 4) Baltimore,
>>5) Jacksonville, and (surprisingly) 6) San Antonio.  This ranking was evidentl
y
>>made before San Antonio didn't make the short list in March.
>>    Check out the article.  It's pretty good!
>>
>>    Stay tuned as several others are cut from the short list during the
>>May 19-20 NFL meetings.  Say Bye-bye to the "surging Sacramento group". :-)
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Brendan Bailey                         "The NFL is on record saying that if
>>SAS Institute, Inc - QA/Graph           it adds 150 expansion teams or hell
>>sasbrb@unx.sas.com                      freezes over -- whichever comes
>>Go Heels! Go Hornets!                   first -- Raleigh will be awarded a
>           ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>The NFL in Charlotte! Target: 1994!!!   franchise." - The Charlotte Observer
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Yes, it would be nice if they could get it together and make a run in
>these last nine games; then, they could have the satisfaction of being
>roadkill for the Bulls (yes, yes, I know, wrong newsgroup).
>
>John Coryell.
>
-- 
               TONY, TONY, TONY
               BROADHEAD 312
               758-1378
From: jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BUBBY BRISTER RUMORED TO BE TRADED
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:15:12 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs

In article <1992Apr05.215859.8255@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH) writes:
|> The Brown and White out of Bethlehem reported in their weekly sports column
|> that Bubby Brister will be traded sometime this week for Jeff George and wide
|> receiver Billy Brooks.  Anyone else hear of this?
|> -- 
|>                TONY, TONY, TONY
|>                BROADHEAD 312
|>                758-1378

You've got to be kidding!!! They be luck to get a cheerleader for 
Bubby Brister.

-- 
Jeff Nappi
Columbus Bell Labs
jjn@cbjjn.att.com
From: richp@gotcha.Sun.COM (Rich Piziali - Sun SVN SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills Plan B Report
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:39:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gotcha.west.sun.com


Hi all,

Can anyone out there update me on what the Bills did with Plan B this year?
Did they lose anyone or gain anyone of signifigance?  Also, how are the free
agents progressing?  I heard that Bennett was a free agent and was shopping
around.  Have they signed him yet?

Any info would be appreciated.  In S.F. area we don't get much Bills news...

Cheers,

Rich Piziali

ps. please respond thru email as I don't regularly read this alias, thx:

richp@West.Sun.COM
From: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: JETS Fans??????
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:40:26 GMT
Reply-To: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Organization: Project EOS - North Carolina State University

>>ruthd@aix.rpi.edu writes:

>>  Are there any jets fans out there? 

     Not now, but there may be some disgruntled bills fans who may be jet fans 
next year :D

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From: ruthd@aix.rpi.edu (Davis Paul Ruth)
Subject: NFC Rushing leaders projected....
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:22:02 GMT

1. Rodney Hampton 
2. Barry Sanders
3. Emmitt Smith
4> Herschel Walker
5. Neal Anderson
From: rlehman@thunder.watson.ibm.com (Robert C. Lehman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BUBBY BRISTER RUMORED TO BE TRADED
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:22:31 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Apr05.215859.8255@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH) writes:
>The Brown and White out of Bethlehem reported in their weekly sports column
>that Bubby Brister will be traded sometime this week for Jeff George and wide
>receiver Billy Brooks.  Anyone else hear of this?

Didn't you mean to post this on April 1st?  

Howeverr, if it does happen, someone ought to drive Bubby to
Indianapolis, since I don't think he could find it on his own.

-Rob
From: rjk@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas (oh!)Boys Signings + Comment
Date: 6 Apr 1992 14:59:24 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute

In article <QdrJDey00iV10943Ug@andrew.cmu.edu> ss7l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven Sung) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.200321.7715@aero.org> mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)  
>writes:
>>> The Dallas DB corps now looks like:
>>> 
>>> CB - Mitchell, Gant, Holt (not for long??), Brown, Williams
>>> S - Albritton, Washington, Horton, Bates
>
>What's the deal on the cornerback the Cowboys got from the Raiders
>earlier this year?  How good is he, and what did the 'boys give up to
>get him???  Thanks.

Garry Lewis was acquired by the Cowboys on Feb. 1 from the Raiders
for the Cowboys 7th round draft choice in the upcoming draft.  He
was drafted by the Raiders in the 1990 draft and was a starter for
a while during that season.  He broke his collarbone and lost his
starting job because of it.  He is supposed to be at least an 
adequate backup, who might be able to develp and push for a starting
job.


Ray   GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!

From: keithg@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:39:34 GMT
Subject: Re: CHIEFS PREVIEW
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro


This year, Kansas City will have the luxury of using players they sorely missed
last year, despite losing the playoffs.  Stephone Paige, Albert Lewis, and
Percy Snow will make the team stronger and, eventually, vault them to the top
of the AFC West.  This is their year to go to the Super Bowl.  Watch out,
Bills!  The Chiefs'll show you how to win the Big Game.

G-Man

 Bronco and Raider fans are most happy to see "Butterfingers" go to
the one team that can seriously compete with them for the AFC west title.
Congrats KC. I hope the offense works a lot on the fumble drill.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: bm562@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard L. Trionfo)
Subject: Trade Rumors
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 13:35:45 GMT


    I was just wondering whether or not the people in Atlanta, or
any of the other towns in the Bobby Humphrey Lottery have so much
of a problem in getting his name right.  Ninety percent of the 
people in Philadelphia who call WIP ask about the Igggles(Philly
pronunication) getting Bobby Humphreys from Denver.  I always
thought that he was at one time a DB for the Rams, not the 
Eric Dickerson of the 90's.  
              Rich
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