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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Convert TeX fonts to TrueType?
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:45:01 GMT

Is it possible to convert TeX fonts to TrueType?

Alternatively, is the AMS mathematical symbol set available in TrueType?

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From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Query: kerns, accents, ligatures
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:55:51 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK


(1) TeX doesn't kern accented letters even if it kerns their
unaccented counterparts.  The file "roman.mf" says

  ligtable "V": [...] "A" kern kkk# [...];

and accordingly if {VA} is set in Computer Modern, the "A" goes 2u
under the "V".  But in {\'VA} or {V\'A} no kerning is done.

Is this a bug or is it a feature?  That is, is kerning in the case of
one of the letters having an accent deemed typographically undesirable,
or is it just something that we can't get with the available tools?

(2) I've frequently encountered the opinion that if one has to
accommodate an alphabet with more than 26 characters (separate glyphs
or accented forms of one another), the way to go is to use ligatures,
not active characters.  Y Haralambous suggests in _TuGboat_ 10:3 that
(_inter alia_) {<A} be made into a ligature which yields "A" with an
acute accent.  So {V<A} will be set as {V\'A} while also allowing for
hyphenation later on in the word.

But, as I understand it, there will still be no kerning.  The ligtable
entry for "V" says that a following "A" must go under it, but it can't
say anything about a following "<", because it is still unknown what
comes after the "<".  When that becomes known, in the entry for "<",
where it says `"A" =: A_acute', it is too late to move the ligature.

Or am I missing something?

(Apparently it is considered a bad strategy to put the modifiers after
the letter, because in that case {fi<} won't yield the desired "f"
followed by "i" with an acute, if the "fi" ligature is still used.
But it would also be a bad idea if our ligatures are not accented
characters, but shapes which look completely different from the
components.  For example, if a Cyrillic _sh_ is entered as {sh} (or
{s1}, or {s<}, whatever, via ligature building), it will be kerned
into a preceding letter as if it were an _s_, which is wrong, because
the two look entirely different from the left side -- the former must
be kerned as a Roman "m" and the latter as a Roman "c".)

(Yes, folks, I'm writing MF code for alphabets with more than 26
letters, and I want them to look good. ...)

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From: bbeeton <BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: re: basic interpreter -- *not* folklore
Date: 12 Nov 1992 10:30:09 -0500 (EST)
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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darrell mccauley asks (comp.text.tex, november 10) if it's true
that someone actually wrote a basic interpreter in tex.

andrew marc greene of mit wrote such an interpreter, and presented
a paper about it at the 1990 tug meeting.  the paper appears in the
proceedings of that meeting, published in tugboat 11 #3 (september
1990), pp 381-392.  the interpreter is called basix.tex, and the
full macro listing is given in an appendix -- all 477 lines of it.

have fun!
						-- bb
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From: peterf@emerald.csis.dit.csiro.au (Peter A Fletcher)
Subject: Centerline problem with \shortstack; help!
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:43:20 GMT

Hello!

    I am trying to print an array in latex looking something like this:

        <- 0 ->
    |   0   1   2
    1   3   4   5   (except with 012345 vertically centred with the 1)
    |   

    I tried to do it like this:

\newcommand\dimzero{\leftarrow0\rightarrow}
\newcommand\dimone{\shortstack{$\uparrow$\\1\\$\downarrow$}}

\begin{array}{cc}
   & \dimzero \\ \dimone & \fbox{$\begin{array}{ccc}0 & 1 & 2 \\ 3 & 4 & 5\end{array}$}
\end{array}

    But this produces this:

        <- 0 ->
    |
    1 
    |   0   1   2
        3   4   5

I think this is because the reference point for \shortstack is the
lower left, stuffing up the centerline for \dimone.  Is there any
way I can get the desired result ?

Thanks,

-peter.

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From: rolfl@ulrik.uio.no (Rolf Lindgren)
Subject: Re: (name, date) bibstyle
Organization: Institutt for Humanistisk Informatikk, Blindern, Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:26:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.160410.4298@sophia.smith.edu> orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke) writes:
>   Can anyone tell me where to get the files that would cause my citations
>   to appear as "(name, date)" in the text?
>	   Sorry if this is a FAQ...
>


	authordate is available from ftp.math.utah.edu in the
	~ftp/pub/tex/bibtex directory. 

	theapa is available from ftp.cc.utexas.edu in the pub/young directory

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw
Subject: Re: TeX and MS-windows
Reply-To: jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: Computer Science & Information Engin., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:04:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct23.174007.13361@cbfsb.cb.att.com> g@cbnewsb.cb.att.com  
(George Targonski) writes:
> 	I've seen ads for the commercial program "Scientific Word" that say
> it is TeX compatible.  (See ads in Physics Today, etc.)  Does anyone use  
this
> software?  Any comments?
U r talking about an software that can "translate" its output
to and back from .tex file.
It's WYSIWYG, but not TeX-like.
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From: asnd@erich.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Vertical Stacking of Math Symbols
Date: 13 Nov 1992 14:36 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Nov12.172656.26411@thomson-lcr.fr>, phk@thomson-lcr.fr (Philippe Kerlirzin) writes...
>if you type:
>	\mathop{T}_{p \in R}
> 
>then in DISPLAYSTYLE the expression {p \in R} will be UNDER the T.

But the T will be vertically centered, and that's not desirable.
The solution is to write \mathop{T\null}.
If the label should appear underneath even in paragraphs (which usually
looks bad) then
\mathop{T\null}\limits_{p \in R}

Donald Arseneau          asnd@reg.triumf.ca
From: gustav@arp.anu.edu.au (Zdzislaw Meglicki)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Lisp WEB, any progress?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 00:26:37 GMT
Organization: Centre for Information Science Research, ANU, Canberra, Australia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.20.14
Keywords: WEB, literate programming, Lisp

Has there been any progress on the WEB-Lisp front? The last I've heard
of it there was only Scheme-Web available and even that was a very scaled
down tool, in comparison with systems such as FWEB. Yet, Lisp needs annotation
much like any other language (although, tangling is of lesser importance,
perhaps). In particular I'd like to be able to place comments with
real mathematical symbols in the Lisp code, and to use all power of TeX
in annotations. Naturally, it would be also nice if the corresponding
Lisp-WEB knew how to format lisp, which Lisp words should be emboldened,
italicised, etc.

Is there a WEB system which could be tweaked into working with Lisp easily?
Can Spider-WEB be used for that?
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From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Greek TeXware WANTED !!
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:38:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.Bx9Fzu.Ev5
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC


Does anybody know of  sites with greek font distribution files,
other that princeton.edu (Levy's) and math.ucla.edu (Moshovakis').
I would appreciate your input. Please reply by e-mail. If there's
interest, I will post a summary to the list.

I need to install Greek TeXware on my NeXT ASAP

ANxiously waiting for Netland's responses

Cheers


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Organization: Valencia University (Universitat de Valencia)   SPAIN
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 17:31:31 EST
From: <MARCO@EVALUN11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: thanks for help on diagonal arrows

I got via ftp the xypic macros at host ftp.diku.dk. I have installed them in
my 386 pc computer at the appropiate directories of my Tex/Latex software and
they run perfectly well.

Thank you at all the people that has given ideas to solve my problem.


Enric Marco
Departament de Matematica Aplicada i Astronomia
Universitat de Valencia
46100 Burjassot, Valencia, Spain
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: johnsonm@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Subject: Re: LaTeX: \verb has problems...
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN  USA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:54:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.105618.1@zodiac.rutgers.edu> leichter@zodiac.rutgers.edu writes:

   Even if you got around this, I think you'd find putting a minipage in a frame-
   box doesnt' work properly anyway.  Trying using the boxedminipage style file
   and environment, available from a LaTeX archive site near you (if your system
   doesn't already have a copy).  (And even if it does, I suppose.  :-) )

Actually, I got around it with a macro that uses \char, and putting a
minipage in a framebox /does/ work.  However, I /am/ now using
boxedminipage -- the only problem is that my maching only takes 14
character filenames, and I had to rename the file bminipage.sty, so my
document is a little non-portable ;-)

michaelkjohnson
From: Yong Wang <Yong.Wang@eng.auburn.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: How to write text vertically
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 10:42:32 CST
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List



Hi, I would like to write some text vertically in the tabular environment,
I mean I want to rotate a line of text 90 degree. Is there a way
to do this? Thanks in advance.


---Yong
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: schotk@aix.rpi.edu (Kevin Douglas Schott)
Subject: where to find DVI translator for IBM Inkjet
Summary: need DVI translator for my new printer 
Keywords: tex, latex, DVI
 
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:36:49 GMT

Thanks for the help,
Kevin
From: stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Small bug in OS/2 port of DVIPS 5.495
Date: 9 Nov 1992 23:39:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

I just installed a DOS/OS2 port of DVIPS 5.495 (found on wsmr-simtel20.army.mil)
and have noticed a small problem. I want it to read CONFIG.PS in directory
F:\EMTEX\PS. Unfortunately, it only looks in \EMTEX\PS, which means that
it'll only work if I'm on disk F: I have set the EMTEXDRV variable to point
to F:

I got around this by copying CONFIG.PS to E:\DVIPS.INI, which does get read,
but this seems like a bit of a bug to me.

Richard Stanton
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: peta@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Peter Whaite)
Subject: Re: Borders around Slides?
Keywords: slitex borders
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 04:48:59 GMT

In article <10959@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> kjross@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>My employer here wants me to develop a slitex style that would provide
>slitex slides which have their corporate identity as a border around the
>slide.  Is there any styles which may assist with this problem?
>
>All replies will be greatly appreciated....

Well this probably isnt the answer you want, but --- dont.  I find borders
around slides very distracting (especially big thick borders with rounded
corners).  How many times have you seen an overhead projector project
perpendicular to the screen.  They are nearly always slanted upwards and that
"nice" rectangular frame ends up looking extremely distorted.


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From: orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke)
Subject: Re: (name, date) bibstyle
Organization: Smith College, Northampton, MA, US
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:49:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.160410.4298@sophia.smith.edu> orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke) writes:
>Can anyone tell me where to get the files that would cause my citations
>to appear as "(name, date)" in the text?

I thank hossein@unocss.unomaha.edu (Hossein Saiedian) for keying me
into the Harvard family of bibliographic styles, which have exactly
what I need.  They are available from shsu.edu in the directory harvard.
From: jaffe@hoss.unl.edu (David Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: macro which checks for overfull hbox??
Date: 12 Nov 1992 13:08:45 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
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I want to write a macro (say of 2 parameters), which does $$f(#1,#2)$$,
unless that won't fit on the page, in which case it does $$g(#1,#2)$$,
unless that won't fit on the page, in which case it does $$h(#1,#2)$$.
Could someone outline how this is done?

Thanks,

David Jaffe (jaffe@hoss.unl.edu)
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: kean@cs.ubc.ca (Alex Kean)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: 2-sided Quire-1.0 printing
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:17:12 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
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I am using Quire 1.0 release: 19 January 1991 by Marcel R. van der
Goot.  Indeed it is a wonderful macro for making booklets and etc.  At
present, every page is printed single-sided, every other page is rotated,
and is fed in the photocopier to produce double-sided output.

We have a HP III laser printer that actually print double sided.  My
question is as follows:
  
  When I run quire and send the output to the printer, hoping for double
  sided printing, every other side is printed upside-down (as expected). 

  Is there a way to control Quire to use in conjunction with 
  double sided printers ?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Alex Kean <kean@cs.ubc.ca>

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From: David Osborne <cczdao@mips.nott.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Problems at SHSU
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 12:40:49 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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In a message of 3 Nov 92 10:29:41 MDT, Zdenek Wagner said:

 > Also, texhax stopped to come while uktex comes from time to time and I hope
 > I have received all issues.

TeXhax frequency is based on volume of received mail: there aren't
many contributions at the moment.  Would a regular (say, two-weekly,
if possible) posting be a better arrangement?
Better still, SEND IN MORE CONTRIBUTIONS!

UKTeX receives a regular amount of traffic, so continues as a weekly digest.

I welcome contributions to both TeXhax and UKTeX, to addresses
TeXhax@tex.ac.uk and UKTeX@tex.ac.uk, respectively.

Latest issues in V92 of each digest are: TeXhax #19 and UKTeX #40.

Back issues are available for anonymous ftp from tex.ac.uk in
directory [tex-archive.digests.NAME.YEAR]NAME.NN
where NAME = {texhax|uktex}; YEAR=92, for example; NN=issue.

~~David Osborne (UKTeX Digest editor), (TeXhax Digest moderator)
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From: michele@apex.yorku.ca (Michele Marques)
Subject: Are there TeX/LaTeX courses in metro. Toronto?
Organization: York University, Help Services, CCS
Distribution: tor
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:15:22 GMT


Is there anyplace in metro. Toronto offering courses in TeX and/or
LaTeX?

Please e-mail responses, as I often fall behind in news.

Thanks a lot.

		-- Michele
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From: lhb@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Leon Bouwmeestel)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 12:58:58 GMT
Subject: figures in Latex
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Reply-To: lhb@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Leon Bouwmeestel)


Hi all you Tex users,

A few days ago I posted a article about figures in Latex
documents and that all my sections and references to that 
sections were lost. That is, they didn't show up in the
contentsfile anymore.

After a few days of trying I've found out what the problem was,
so don't bother helping me anymore.

Instead of using `\include{file}' in the figure environment, you'll
have to use `\input{file}'. At least that worked for me.

Thanks any way.

Leon

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From: myers@ut-emx.uucp (Eric Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Looking for makeindex for (La)TeX
Keywords: diagonal picture 45 degrees
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:01:27 GMT
Organization: Center for Relativity, University of Texas

In article <1992Nov4.105142.19268@amcnix.amc.uva.nl>
lucas@aristoteles.amc.uva.nl (Peter Lucas) writes: 
>Could someone send me the sources of the program makeindex that
>can be used to produce an index file for (La)TeX?

Makeindex defaults to LaTeX mode, but you can get a set of macros
called index.tex which let you use makeindex with plain TeX with no
changes via anonymous ftp from lifshitz.ph.utexas.edu in /texsis/index.

The complete sources for makeindex are also there, in a compressed
tar file, and there is a PostScript version of the paper documenting 
makeindex.

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From: romano@pimac2.iet.unipi.it (Romano Giannetti)
Subject: rotate for dvitps?
Organization: Dipartimento di Informatica, Universita' di Pisa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:14:16 GMT

   Has anyone a 'rotate.sty' for the dvitps Postscript driver? I tried to
change the TeXtures \special, and I can rotate text, but then dvitps lose
the reference point... And if I simply change the 'postscript bla bla' with
'dvitps: Literal "bla bla"' I get an error from the printer (something about
a missing currentpoint), but I know a bit of TeX, and less (almost nothing) 
of Postscript.

   Any help will be appreciated.
   Ciao,
        Romano.
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