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From: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Pearl Jam slag fest.
Date: 22 Nov 1992 03:54:58 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu


A point was brought up earlier regarding the ongoing flame/gush battle
over Pearl Jam...
The point was something along the lines (from a gusher) that one should
quit flaming PJ simply cuz they don't like it...its all a matter of taste.
The slagger replied that one of the shining points of the NET is that one
can often learn of new music via the posts...and if anyone is going to ask
about Pearl Jam, he will flame away...

I guess what I want to know is...what difference does it make?  If someone
asks about Pearl Jam and the best reply that people can come up with is:
"they really suck" or "man, they're the greatest thing in the world,"..
what did the questioner learn?...nothin'.

I too use the NET to discover some new stuff...sometime ago I asked about
the Fatima Mansion here (and on R.M.Industrial) and I got a flood of posts
telling me how WONDERFUL they are...so I went to my local record store and
gave it a listen...in my opinion (formed after listening to the thing) was
that they SUCKED..pure and simple...This is of course my opinion and a matter
of taste...

What ends up happening is a cascade of posts of yea's and nay's over a band..
but more often then not, no real info was passed along...The slagger also
pointed out that the NET is here to post opinion....This is true..but what
good is being done besides chewing up bandwidth by recreating the Rush flame
war under a different title....

I guess all I am saying is that if you have an opinion..support it..so that
readers have some sort of context for what you are talking about...You think
something sux...tell us why...same goes if you really dig a band...why?
Those bits of information, most often ommitted, are the ones that are most
helpful...

Please forgive the spelling mistakes above...I can't seem go back and correct
them with this editor..sorry.

Later. (for the person who questioned this in another post...it is a 
vernacular closing for my letters...generally noted as the short form of
"I will see you later."...when?...I dunno..so there.you now have the answer.)

Anyway.

Later, all.

-justin.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: itzenhui@cs.uwp.edu (Steve Itzenhuiser)
Subject: Dead Fly Boy
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:04:05 GMT


There's a low rumbling through the mist
The cave floor tremors under foot
Noises of animals unknown
Scream from the darkness ahead
Growling roars, screeching cries
And stomping heards of man.

Dead Fly Boy
From: sdm91r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stuart Maclean)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Isn't it a Pity / Galaxie 500
Keywords: George Harrison
Date: 17 Nov 92 10:55:56 GMT

Dear Alt Fans, I'm trying to hunt down the original version of Isn't it a pity,
which was covered by Galaxie 500 on their LP 'On Fire'. The songs was written by(I presume) George Harrison. Does anybody know where it is availble. Thanks in advance .

Stuart.
From: athomas@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Andrew Edward Thomas)
Subject: Re: alt.music.alternative
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:43:33 GMT

In <2688.1618.uupcb@synapse.org> stephane.gelinas@synapse.org (Stephane Gelinas)  writes:


>The Dickies...

>They're a great band!  I've been listning to them since 1982, and as far
>as I know, they are still alive!  They just don't release albums too often,
>grin....

They are pretty amazing.  They still play live every couple months or so.
They don't seem to bring very big crowds anymore though....

>They started in 1977 and had a rather bumpy career (one death, one suicide).

>Here's the basic discography.  All the full length studio albums are there,
>that is unless they recently released a new album that I am not aware of.

>45's (all on A&M label)

>Paranoid / I'm OK you're OK
>Eve of destruction / Doggie Doo
>Give it back / You drive me Ape
>Silent Night / Sounds of Silence
>Banana Splits / Hideous / Got it at the store
>Manny, Moe, & Jack / She Loves me not
>Tricia Toyota (I'm stuck in a pagoda with) / Fan mail
>Nights in white satin / Waterslide
>Gigantor / Bowling with Bedrock Barney

They put out a single in the U.K. about 2 years ago called "Just Say Yes!"
It has the title track, and two others.  They also have a fairly recent single
that I can't remember the title which is also an import.  I don't think they
are on a U.S label currently...

>Albums:

>The incredible shrinking dickies  1979 (A&M)
>Dawn of the dickies               1980 (A&M)
>Stukas over Disneyland            1983 (PVC)
>Killer Klowns from Outer Space EP 1988 (Enigma)
>Great Dictation (The best of...)  1989 (A&M)
>Second Coming                     1989 (Enigma)

>Other stuff:

>We aren't the world (a live cass) ????  ROIR
>Live in London 1990               1990  ????

>I've seen another live album, but can't recall the name right now.

There's a live album called "Cocked and Loaded" which is on Taang! that came
out a year or so ago.  It might be the same as the live in London one.

>As far as I know, most of the Dickies album are out of print, so you'll
>have to check out used record stores.

It shouldn't be to hard though....

Andy Thomas
From: edwardc@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Edward Carter)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: oops...i almost forgot...
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:04:44 GMT
Reply-To: edwardc@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Edward Carter)
Organization: Dept of AI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <37706@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>, x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:
# 
#     from the white-out desk of caroliner rainbow:
# 
# oh yeah, in case you didn't know.....martin duffy is now in that absolutely
# shitty band 'primal scream', where practically all of his talent has been
# either completely shrouded or whittled away to almost nothing.....
# and they make him wear those big, stupid, floppy hats.....
# 
#     -   caroliner fishing pole wattage remover.

and an occasional member of 'Airstream', who are probably even worse.
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Grunge - it's NOT new
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:23:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, gdebelle@athena.mit.edu (Guy L Debelle) says:

>All this stuff about grunge originating in Seattle just ain't so.
>
>We've had grunge bands in Australia since the early-mid 80s, and it was called
>grunge too.  Bands like the Cosmic Psychos, Exploding White Mice, Grong Grong,
>even Lubricated Goat  all fit into the grunge genre and there's plenty more
>I've forgotten.  
>
>Hell, the local label in Adelaide, Greasy Pop Records, was grunge city.

And ya know what?  Mudhoney started in 1988, which basically launched
SubPop, but Screaming Trees were grunging since at least 1984.
>

-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
University of Michigan Class of 1996
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon")
Subject: Re: SPIN's Number 1 record of 1992...Pavement!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:21:06 GMT

jsulliva@amstel.prime.com  writes:
> In the December issue, they name Pavement's _Slanted and Enchanted_
> as the best on '92. Also in the top 20 were this year's models from
> (this is from memory...please excuse errors/ommisions...)
> Arrested Development(2), Sonic Youth(3), Beastie Boys(4), Ministry(5),
> Sugar(6),..., Mudhoney,..., Urge Overkill.
> 
> Also, the Artist of the year was (you guessed it!) Nirvana.
> 

Sorry, I don't put much stock in any magazine that would put
Arrested Development at number two on a chart, let alone on the
same chart as bands like Ministry, Sugar, and Mudhoney...  My
roommate has AD's album and I do believe that it has to be one
of the absolute worst albums that I've ever heard...
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jnorman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John G Norman)
Subject: Re: NPR segues
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:06:35 GMT

NPR has also been addicted to a bit off of Tom Verlaine's "Warm and Cool."
(Or maybe it's just my local NPR station.)  Anyway, that's pretty cool.

I read that Television is soon playing in NYC and Boston . . . anyone
know if they're going to tour the hinterlands?  The last time I saw
Richard Lloyd, he was junk-free and in top form.  Can't wait for a
Television reunion tour.

jnorman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.music.hardcore,rec.music.industrial
From: Mark.Cornick@launchpad.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Re: the Indie-List apologizes...
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:36:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.110316.12125@fokus.gmd.de> mhs@fokus.gmd.de (M.Schmeil) writes:
>indie-list?
>
>does this mean punk/hc or shitstars of mercy?


well so far, it's been mostly punk/hc/indie-rock, with a dash of pop and a
little Debbie Gibson, but as of yet no Sisters... :)

--
Mark Cornick <stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu> [ indie-list editor ]
I will eat these words, as long as you'll be my dessert. -- Honeybunch

--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: pmarin@lindy.seas.upenn.edu (Paul S Marin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Cure: Kiss Me B-sides & more
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:00:45 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


1. Does any body know how to get the singles from the KISS ME, KISS ME, KISS
   ME album which are:
		Catch
		Why Can't I Be You?
		Just Like Heaven
		Hot, Hot, Hot!!!

  I've been desperately searching for these for their B-sides.  They are
  impossible to find where I live (Philadelphia, PA).

2. Does anybody know how I can get the CASSETTE version of "Concert"?
   It has a whole other collection of songs called "Curiosity"on its B-side
   that are not available anywhere else.  This is only available on CD in the
   states & it does not have "Curiosity."

3. Does anybody know how to get the re-recorded version of "Boys Don't Cry?"
   It was released in '86 with "Standing On The Beach"/ "Staring At The Sea."
   You can hear it on the video "Staring At The Sea."

4. Is anybody interested in having the lyrics to the Cure albums that don't
   Have a lyric sheet in them?? I also have lyrics to most of the B-sides.


If anyone knows any of the info above post it or contact me at:
			pmarin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
 Thanks!
From: mctsrj@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Boo Radleys
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:05:46 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

So where is the discussion about the supreme excellence of
The Boo Radleys?

They must surely be the best, most adventurous indie guitar
band of the moment.  I can't think of another band off-hand
who have developed and changed their style with such skill
and to such quality ends.

To anyone who hasn't heard them, you could do worse than buy 
any of their last four singles as an introduction, or even
the Everything's Alright Forever album (Creation).

Loud thrashy guitars, blend with melancholic acoustic strumming,
and dreamy pop tunes carrying heartfelt lyrics.  Oh and the trumpet
sometimes lends a Spanish feel, when the heavy bass isn't 
bringing a dub feel as with 'Lazarus' the new single.

Listening to the first album (Ichabod and I)  you get the
feeling of a band with talent just waiting for the resources to
realise their musical aims.  They are now doing it.

Check them out.


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kinsler@newton.xphysics.uq.oz.au (Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: who sings _Tommorow Wendy_ ???
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:02:22 GMT

In article <carol.722123591@ee.uts.EDU.AU>, carol@ee.uts.edu.au (Carol Gibson) writes:
|> v065q4dn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MY HEART COULD USE SOME GLASSES) writes:
|> 
|> >"Tommorrow Wendy" is sung by Concrete Blonde and can be found on
|> >"Bloodletting".....
|> 
|> It was actually Andy Prieboy - the woman from Concrete Blonde sang
|> on it with him and they both recorded it

Actually, both posts are true. The Prieboy+Neapolitano version
got more airplay in Australia (on JJJ).

-- 
+soluble fish+
"You people, you do not see the grandeur in the wind and stone and stars,
 in the blood and fire and iron - but paint only the flowers."
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Re: Uncle Tupelo
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:53:56 GMT

In <churley-231192090201@hurley.med.harvard.edu> churley@warren.med.harvard.edu (Carol Hurley) writes:

>In article <1992Nov20.215126.19560@vestek.com>, tim@vestek.com (Tim
>McGinnis) wrote:

>>   Just wondering why UT left the Michele Shocked Tour. and
>>   wondering if they are touring the states right now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> tim

>They lost their drummer.  I heard they were auditioning new drummers,
>that's most likely why they aren't playing.

	It`s really weird. I saw them 2 weeks ago at first avenue here.
	They are not playing, but they are . really weird (grin)

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Sugar
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:23:51 GMT

Does anyone know when Sugar is coming to Washington D.C and if/when they are
coming to Central Illinois?

Ed.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon")
Subject: Julian Cope -- "Jehovahkill"
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:47:39 GMT

Have any of you lucky Brits who have had the CD already
released in your country (or anyone else who's been willing to
pay the cost of importing it) heard this disc yet?  How is it?
Would it be worth my while to go ahead and import rather than
waiting for the domestic?
By the way, does anyone know what the scheduled US release date 
is?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing)
Subject: Re: Name the group?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:44:35 GMT

wrong answer, the studio version of dear prudence in on the us cd









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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: bthompso@reed.edu (Benjamin Thompson)
Subject: Re: CHAMELEONS
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:46:53 GMT

I too have been mesmorized by the Chameleons UK album Strange Times.
I have owned numerous copies of the tape at different times and have
been inadequate as a person not owning it on CD.  I was deeply
dismayed to find out that they printed the album at a time when not
everything was printed on to CD.  So Geffen never printed the album on
CD's.  If you and anyone else you know want this album on CD, we might
try to get a petition together of interested parties to send to Geffen
stating that this album should be reissued on CD.  What do you think?
Other netters?  Mail bthompso@reed.edu if you want to see this album
reissued onto CD.
Thanks

-- 
Benjamin Thompson                     My views are my own, as far as I know...
bthompso@reed.edu                     I go to Reed College --- You can trust me
From: churley@warren.med.harvard.edu (Carol Hurley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Television (was Re: NPR segues)
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:53:50 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard Medical School

In article <1992Nov20.213226.28432@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, att (Bob R)
wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Nov20.190635.13403@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jnorman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John G Norman) writes:
> > NPR has also been addicted to a bit off of Tom Verlaine's "Warm and Cool."
> > (Or maybe it's just my local NPR station.)  Anyway, that's pretty cool.
> > 
> > I read that Television is soon playing in NYC and Boston . . . anyone
>                                             ^^^
> December 2 and 3!


 Boston on Nov. 30.  I can't wait!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carol Hurley
churley@warren.med.harvard.edu

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: perring@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: go-betweens
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:52:16 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <ukevc.722226800@mcl>, ukevc@mcl.ucsb.edu (Squibby's Cat) writes:
> Hi
> Are there any Go-Betweens fans out there?  My recent sighting of
> Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond express on CD has made me
> thirst for anyone with anything to trade, or just anyone who wants
> to engage in a few prayers to the church of Robert & Grant...
>

Oh yes.  Their greatest hits CD is also worth getting: it includes 
some good stuff, including rare early songs otherwise unobtainable.  
Are all of their albums available on CD?  I should go and stock up.

I read somewhere that they had reformed or were at least touring 
together. Does anyone know whether they will be releasing new material?

(Their solo albums were pretty good, but not quite as good as the 
Go-Betweens.)

Christian
From: ukevc@mcl.ucsb.edu (Squibby's Cat)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: go-betweens
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:33:20 GMT

Hi
Are there any Go-Betweens fans out there?  My recent sighting of
Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond express on CD has made me
thirst for anyone with anything to trade, or just anyone who wants
to engage in a few prayers to the church of Robert & Grant...

Kevin
ukevc@mcl.ucsb.edu

PS  Is there anyone in Australia into them?

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Subject: Re: Patchouli (was Re: Sonic Youth/Daydream Nation)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:32:13 GMT

Ick.  Patchouli.  Can you blame them?  I can't imagine why they would do
that.  I'm almost glad I don't have a copy.  To have something in my room
that smelled like that would drive me nuts.  Hate the shit.


					       Ramona\

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: "chris benn" <chris.benn@canrem.com>
Subject: name the group?
Reply-To: "chris benn" <chris.benn@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:04:36 EST

Siouxsie and the Banshees also did it bucko
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:57:54 -0500 
From: "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: GRUNGE and MASTURBATION

says Mike Walker:
>Well that's just a plain groovy post, chock full o'
>interesting idears..........
> 
>but where does masturbation come (no pun intended) into it?

The idea was just that spewing forth things like "this band obviously
has their roots in this" and "these guys are ripping these guys off" is
essentially masturbation.

Megan
----------------------------
I don't need to be forgiven.

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:02:03 -0500 
From: "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: GRUNGE and MASTURBATION
	<R5F=W==@engin.umich.edu>

Grunge, grunge, grunge. Jesus. Whoever coined that word with the intent
of encompassing everything coming out of Seattle was really off his or
her rocker. Pearl Jam (whether you like the band or not) does not sound
like Mudhoney does not sound like Soundgarden does not sound like
Nirvana does not sound like Alice in Chains, and on and on and on
(though, granted, all of these bands probably do sound more like each
other than, say, Bell Biv Devoe).

In fact, the whole notion of shoving bands into these little cubby holes
and assigning a (usually arbitrary) family tree to each (*this band*
sounds like Sonic Youth, Black Sabbath, and Led Zeppelin) is completely
ridiculous. Rock and roll came about because people wanted music they
could listen to and really identify with -- now people are analyzing it
to death, showing off how much they know about old music and how cool
they are (or, perhaps more appropriately, were). 

Who cares if some people think grunge hearkens back to the '70s in some
ways? Who cares if Faith No More's bass line on some song is faintly
reminiscent of some Yes bass line from way back fucking when? My
contention is that no one sounds just like Pearl Jam, or Faith No More,
or whoever -- and that's why there are so many bands with their own
followings.

*BUT* the gods demand blood. They must categorize. So here I am. I
confess it freely -- I like guitar sounds, so I'm bound to gravitate
toward the bands mentioned in the first paragraph (well, except BBD).
Okay. Now let's label me a grunge head, and let's say that all the 
bands I listen to all sound the same. Fine. Is everyone happy now? Good.
Now can we please talk about music without feeling the need to say that
all bands are just ripping each other off? Good.

Megan "Little Miss Grunge" Dietz, who really has heard of New York, LA,
and lots of other cool places
---------------------------
I don't need to be forgiven
From: u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Name the group?
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:00:13 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.


	For the record:  Siouxsie's cover of "Helter Skelter" is on
			_The Scream_, while "Dear Prudence" didn't make it
			onto any album in studio form, appearing only on 7"
			and the live version on _Nocturne_.
From: Lawrence.A.Kim@dartmouth.edu (Lawrence A. Kim)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: felt
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:06:38 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

phil king is now the bassist for lush, don't you know . . .
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hk@caesar.rice.edu (hyonchol kahng)
Subject: Verve
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: alt
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:14:20 GMT

Only got to hear about 3 minutes of "She's a Superstar" during a band
rehearsal, 'cos our ex-guitarist is a really big Verve freak, and I thought
it was really cool (although I have yet to listen to the other 10+ minutes
of that pop epic).  What all do these guys have out, recordings-wise?  I've
heard rumors that Caroline Records was going to release all (how many?) singles
on one CD sometime at the end of the year, kinda like what they did with
Revolver.



hk
"C, C, C, C, C, C, C is the Heavenly option..."
From: Christopher.Carne@brunel.ac.uk (Christopher J Carne)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Fatima Mansions
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:40:06 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

They also had a EP 'Bertie's Brochures' out between Viva and Valhalla.
An odd (but good) record, which had both really noisey stuff and some 
great lush tuneful stuff (more like the old Microdisney material).
Tracks:

1. Behind The Moon   
2. Bertie's Brochures
3. Happy Shiny People
4. V.N. (an apology)
5. Mario Vargo Yoni
6. Smiling
7. Long About Now
8. The Great Valerio


I guess this is a 'must have' item, just like the rest of their product.


The story that lies behind the version of 'Shiny Happy People' is that
Stipe went to see FM, and with reference to the gig made some public
comments about how much he hated 'Art House Bands'. Cathal's version
of SHP is payback, I guess. Much better than the original, and  a     
Christmas present for all REM fans.


'But most of all, fuck your showbusiness!'


CHR$