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From: rab@sprite.berkeley.edu (Robert A. Bruce)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: New Simtel-20 MSDOS CDROM, 640 megbytes, $25
Date: 4 Jan 1993 04:54:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sage.berkeley.edu

A new edition of the Simtel-20 CD-ROM is available.  It contains
about 640 meg of MS-DOS shareware and public domain software.

The Simtel archive has grown since I made the last disc in September,
so there wasn't enough room to include the Ulowell games archive.  I
am planning to finish a separate games disc later this month.

Even without the games archive, there still wasn't enough room on the
disc.  I had to leave something off, so I decided to delete the
windows3 directory.  Most of the stuff in that directory is included
on the CICA disc, so I figured that was better than deleting stuff
that wasn't available elsewhere.

The disc conforms to ISO-9660, which is the most common and generic format.
It will work with almost any reader.  The files are in a standard directory
structure, so no special software is required.  An optional menu driven front
end is provided.

If you want to see what is on the disc, you can ftp the index and readme
files from cdrom.com (192.153.46.254), in the directory /pub/cdroms/simtel.
If you want to use the disc with a BBS, description files are included for
rbbs, pcboard, wildcat, spitfire and opus.  There are also 4dos descript.ion
files in each subdirectory.

The price is $25.  S&H is $5 (per order, not per disc) for US/Can/Mex, and
$10 for overseas.  If you live in California, please add sales tax.  You can
send a check or money order, or you can order with Mastercard/Visa/AmEx.

        Bob Bruce
        Walnut Creek CDROM
        1547 Palos Verdes, Suite 260
        Walnut Creek, CA  94596

        +1 800 786-9907, +1 510 947-5996, +1 510 947-1644 FAX
        rab@cdrom.com

The disc is available for FREE to anyone that has contributed any of
their own work to the Simtel archive.  Just email me your name, address,
and the name of the program(s) that you wrote.  Overseas addresses are ok.

I also have these CDROMs:

CICA MS Windows Archive, Nov 92                $25
AB20 Amiga Archive, May 92                     $25
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Archive, May 92                $25
Hobbes OS/2 Archive, Nov 92                    $25
Gifs Galore (wuarchive + others) August 92     $25
Usenet sources/Simtel20 Unix-C, March 92       $40
X11R5/Gnu Source w/sparc binaries, Dec 92      $40
C User's Group Library CDROM, Oct 92           $50
Sony CDROM Caddies                              $4.95

I am always looking for ideas for new discs, so if there is something you
would really like to see on CD-ROM, please let me know.  In addition to
the games disc, I am also working on an Aminet disc, and a NeXT disc.
I am planning to do a TeX disc, an Atari disc and a CP/M disc in the
next few months.  I am also hoping to find time to upgrade some of the
older discs like the source disc and garbo disc.

        -bob

Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
From: toth@tellabs.com (Joseph G. Toth Jr.)
Subject: Re: *** WHAT'S THE BEST COMM PROTOCOL ***
Organization: Tellabs, Inc. Lisle IL
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:03:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.181829.4391@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dml7@navaho.cc.bellcore.com (lee,danny) writes:
>i'm having trouble deciding which communications protocol package to
>use on my pc.  i was using kermit and still using it.  however,
>someone mentioned to me that zmodem was much better and faster.
>one can assume that speed and reliability are the main factors
>to consider.  which one (kermit or zmodem, or any other ones)
>would permit one to download/upload most efficiently and most
>quickly?  obviously, modem speed plays a role as well.  please
>e-mail me below or post.  i will summarize should there be enough
>interest.  thanks in advance.
>
>dan
>
>  ________/----------------------/______
> / Danny / dml7@cc.bellcore.com / 1992 /
>/_______/----------------------/______/


While xmodem and zmodem might provide some percentage gains (sometimes
small, somtimes rather large[in the range of 30% or so]) in file transfer
rate, it is all meaningless if they just won't work for you.

Kermit always uses a standard set of ASCII characters for transmitting
the data (even in binary format?) that is immune to the problems that
arise using the other transfer formats when the data being transferred
is a XON, XOFF or any of a number of other control characters used in
text flow/format control.  This makes kermit the format of choice for
users who have there system connected to a data network via a terminal
server or 4-line rs-232 connection that does not have hardware flow
control, thus requiring XON/XOFF flow control.

I have looked at the man page and help output for xmodem, and do not
see any way of altering it to avoid the XON/XOFF problem.  If it's
there, I'm sure we'll hear about it.

It's kind of like the archiver controversy;
  each may have some aspect that is better than the others,
  and you have to use the appropriate one for the target of your operation,
  so you need to keep them all around to use when the need arises.

BTW - our site has yet to get the comp.archives.msdos.d, so I can't
  followup to that yet.  Sorry, Timo.



--
--------------------------+---------------------------------
 Joseph G. Toth Jr.       |  uunet!tellab5.tellabs.com!toth
 Tellabs Operations, Inc. |  toth@tellabs.com
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Subject: Extra Bytes in Simtel Files
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:10:12 GMT

I've been using LISTSERV@VM1.NODAK.EDU to get files from Simtel recently
(very quickly, too!) and I noticed that every file which comes uuencoded has
extra bytes (compared to the total number of bytes in the official Simtel
file list) after it is uudecoded. Does anyone know why this is so? I used to
use DECWRL.DEC.COM, and never noticed this (but then I was never looking for
it there...it might have happened there as well). It's no big deal to strip
out the extra bytes with the "RV" program and the /x switch.

Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: PC-MAG Benchmark 7.0
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 09:08:58 GMT

In article <BzupCL.Lw5@nic.umass.edu> quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi) writes:
>I just got Bench 7.0 myself, and had the same problem with locking up
>during XMS check.  Does anyone know where I can get 6.0.  It doesn't

 506102 Oct 20  1991 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/sysinfo/bench60.zip
 330113 Oct 31  1990 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/goldies/bench56.zip

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
From: olevnmr@chem.ualberta.ca (olevnmr)
Subject: Re: *** WHAT'S THE BEST COMM PROTOCOL ***
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:24:01 GMT

dml7@navaho.cc.bellcore.com (lee,danny) writes:

>i'm having trouble deciding which communications protocol package to
>use on my pc.  i was using kermit and still using it.  however,
>someone mentioned to me that zmodem was much better and faster.
>one can assume that speed and reliability are the main factors
>to consider.  which one (kermit or zmodem, or any other ones)
>would permit one to download/upload most efficiently and most
>quickly?  obviously, modem speed plays a role as well.  please
>e-mail me below or post.  i will summarize should there be enough
>interest.  thanks in advance.

>dan

>  ________/----------------------/______
> / Danny / dml7@cc.bellcore.com / 1992 /
>/_______/----------------------/______/


Just one thing to say here..
DON'T USE KERMIT!!!!!! 

I recently was using kermit on my 1200 baud (gasp!) modem to load files
from a unix box to my PC. The actual data transfer rate with kermit was
about 30-35 cps. I found that it is about 2.5 times faster to uuencode
files, transfer them as text, and then decode them. (4 times faster data
transfer, but 1.37 times filesize increase by uuencoding) I would love to
use zmodem, but unfortunately none of our machines at work support it, 
and I don't know offhand of a free unix package that does. Of course, 
what I really want is a 14.4 kbps modem... :-)


---> Colin


Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Re: (administrative) Re: HELP! 2ND HARD DRIVE?????
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 05:27:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.080822.4287@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:
>  *** Please do not continue with this subject in CAM.d ****
>
>I am afraid that we have our first off-topic postings in here.  So
>far this has gone very well because it took a whole 167 messages
>until this happened. 
>
>2. *****
> Q: What is the purpose of comp.archives.msdos.d newsgroup?
>
> A: The CAM.d newsgroup was passed the 7th of December 1992, and
[..]
>The clarified charter is given below. 
>
>   "This unmoderated newsgroup is the discussion subgroup of the
          ^^^^^^^^^^^
>moderated comp.archives.msdos.announce newsgroup.  The newsgroup
>covers users' reports, questions and discussions about the PD and
>shareware programs at the MSDOS FTP sites, and the users' questions
>about the MSDOS FTP sites such as the users' connectivity problem
>reports.  The group is also for posting requests/replies concerning
>where to find such programs as are stored at the MSDOS FTP sites.
>However, users are expected to refer to the FTP site file indexes
>before posting such requests.  The newsgroup does not cover any
>discussions of fully commercial programs or programs for other
>operating systems like OS/2.  (These programs have Usenet newsgroups
>of their own)."

Mr Salmi, your intentions are good but by the references you yourself quote
this newsgroup is unmoderated. I havnt seen anyone in this group complain
about any of the off topic posts. How about being a little more human about
it if you are going to continue posting these messages?

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Tony Annese                                            claebaur@shell.portal.com
                                                  -or- claebaur@cup.portal.com
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: jlinna@phoenix.oulu.fi (Jukka Linna)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: WANTED: TRIDENT 8900 WIN3.1 driver
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:56:54 GMT
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


I have trident0 with 1 megabyte memory. I have searched display driver
for windows 3.1 from boxes, but haven't found better than those for 
windows 3.0. Beta-versions for win3.1 are many times slowlier than my own
win3.0 driver. Where to find better ones, if they exist???

jlinna@phoenix.oulu.fi
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: uploading shareware
Date: 25 Dec 92 07:56:08 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

-Subject: Re: uploading shareware
-To: abhalla@infopls.chi.il.us (Arun Bhalla)
-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 09:43:30 +0200 (EET)
-From: ts

> 
> To which USENET group should I upload/post my UUENCODED shareware 
> programs???
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Arun Bhalla
> 
> **************************************************************************
> *  Arun Bhalla  *     Star Trek, FS4, Simcity, PCs, BBSs, reading, etc.  *
> * Write me for  *   And other multiple interests!!!                      *
> * my BBS #      * Prodigy: VXWF62B   Internet: abhalla@oaknet.chi.il.us  *
> *               *                              abhalla@infopls.chi.il.us *
> **************************************************************************
> 

Hello Arun,

To comp.binaries.ibm.pc.  How?.  Please see the regular instructions
posting by the CBIP moderator Brian O'Neill in that group or
download them as
   5351 Jul 21 00:00 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/doc-net/submbin.txt

If you wish to upload then to an FTP site, contact the site's
moderator for the local instructions.  The email addresses of the
moderators can be found in
   9357 Dec 11 11:36 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder17.zip

And just to make sure, since I am going to post my reply for general
information to comp.archives.msdos.d, I remind the gentle users that
you must never post uuencoded to discussion newsgroups.  What you
Arun are asking here is the right way to go. 

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Pierre Jelenc)
Subject: HLPDK 1.10
Reply-To: pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Pierre Jelenc)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:51:20 GMT

I am trying to use the HLPDK hypertext program from Simtel (version
1.10), and I am encountering a problem. The compilation begins, but
generates what appears to be an error message:

    tableOps: Table is busy

The program then terminates and leaves behind partially constructed
files: .DB and .PX always 3072 bytes, .HDT 0 byte, and no .SET file.

The documentation borders on the woeful and offers no hints as to what
the problem may be. Has anyone encountered this problem? Is there a
solution?


Pierre



Pierre Jelenc                        pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu 
                                    Columbia University, New York
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: tstlx10.zip Salt scripts etc for the Telix telecomm program
Date: 28 Dec 92 06:49:18 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <ts9212271722.28992@chyde.uwasa.fi> ts@chyde.uwasa.fi writes:
>Sun 27-Dec-92: Introduced a collection for my Telix utilities. It is
>available as garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tstlx10.zip. It contains several
:
> FTPGET.SLT      Autodownloading from ftp sites
                  with Garbo, SIMTEL20, and OAK as examples

There is a small confusion in this script which fortunatelu does not
affect its fucntionality unless the file is large or the connection
is slow.  I confused seconds and tenth's of a second.  Thus, for
example
 tmark = timer_start(30);         // Allow thirty seconds
should be
 tmark = timer_start(300);        // Allow thirty seconds

I'll correct that in the soon-to-be next release, which will also
add, at least, a simple script I wrote for alterting the user when a
certain amount of time has expired.  This idea came from a question
from a user on the news (on a country-leven newsgroup) who feels we
is spending too much time connected.  Sometimes the net unknowingly
produces interesting little programming ideas. 

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen)
Subject: Re: Duplication with "msdos announce" mailing list?
Organization: The SIMTEL20 Archives
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:38:48 GMT

brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown) writes:
>I subscribe to the "msdos announce" mailing list, and to the new
>comp.archives.msdos.announce newsgroup.
>
>Do the moderators post everything to both?  Is one a subset of the
>other?  Or do I reallyneed to subscribe to both and live with the
>overlap?

I quote from the first paragraph included in all recent MSDOS-Ann Digests:

> MSDOS-Ann is a moderated one-way mailing list which is used by MS-DOS
> archive managers to announce new additions to their collections.  The
> individual announcements which appear in this digest also appear in
> Usenet newsgroup comp.archives.msdos.announce.  If your host has Usenet
> News please unsubscribe from this list and read the announcements with
> your newsreader.

Have you missed recent issues?  The latest Digest is V1 #37, now in
the process of delivery.  Recent back issues are available from
listserv@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil.  Send a message with this command in
the body for a list of available files:  info

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce and the MSDOS-Ann mailing list
Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: SEX100.ZIP - Waffle BBS utility for news & dir expiration
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:22:38 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <a_rubin.725139900@dn66> a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (Arthur Rubin) writes:
>In <9212230327.kp5283@tacom-emh1.army.mil> kilgore@obelisk.pillar.com (Stan Hall) writes:
>>pd1:<msdos.waffle>
>>SEX100.ZIP      Waffle BBS utility for news & dir expiration
>
>I certainly like the name. :-)

There is nothing like a little electornic titillation :-).  Here is
another one that users keep downloading for both the wrong and the
right reasons (you are welcome to decide which is which :-). 
 558120 Aug 19 07:47 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/gifutil/naked110.zip
It was a big hit at the April fools' day when I advertised it a bit.

Another piece of the lighter side of things.  An Info-ZIP guru
suggested to me that maybe he should have called unzip50.exe as
nude50.exe to get a little life in the download statistics.  :-)

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: ARC?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:13:15 GMT

claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese) writes:

>Ok I have looked everywhere I thought I would find an answer and I havnt 
>found the answer to this question(well I did but it was dated 1988). I am
>looking for a utility to unarc a file. I looked in the FAQ and it only deals
>with zip and zoo but not arc.
>(I ftp'd an arc'd file and cant access it...sigh)

Get pkz361.exe ...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Program: ARC file packer / unpacker
Version: 3.61
Upload Date: 88/08/01
File: pk361.exe  (self-extracting)
Size: 119,598 bytes
Location: oak: /pub/msdos/arc-lbr
          garbo: /pc/arcers
Status: Shareware, Free for non-commercial use
Comment: A bit dated compression program ... but still essential ...
Alternative: ARC (arc602.exe) (garbo only)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
from a ftp site near you ...
Mirror Site             IP                 Directory
-----------             --                 ---------

I. Simtel20 Mirrors
wsmr-simtel20.army.mil  192.88.110.20      PD1: <MSDOS.WHATEVER>
oak.oakland.edu         141.210.10.117     /pub/msdos/whatever
wuarchive.wustl.edu     128.252.135.4      /mirror/msdos/whatever
ftp.uu.net              137.39.1.9         /systems/simtel20/msdos/whatever
nic.funet.fi            128.214.6.100      /pub/msdos/Simtel20-mirror/whatever
src.doc.ic.ac.uk        146.169.3.7        /pub/ibmpc/simtel20/whatever
nic.switch.ch           130.59.1.40        /mirror/msdos/whatever
archie.au               139.130.4.6        /micros/pc/simtel-20/whatever
nctuccca.edu.tw         140.111.3.21       /SIMTEL20/msdos/whatever

II. Garbo Mirrors
garbo.uwasa.fi          128.214.87.1       /pc/whatever
wuarchive.wustl.edu     128.252.135.4      /mirrors/garbo.uwasa.fi/whatever
archie.au               139.130.4.6        /micros/pc/garbo/pc/whatever
nctuccca.edu.tw         140.111.3.21       /Garbo/pc/whatever
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: (administrative) Re: HELP! 2ND HARD DRIVE?????
Date: 27 Dec 92 17:54:40 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <BzxDxp.EE4@NCoast.ORG> brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown) writes:
>You are preaching to the converted, Timo, and you're annoying the heck
>out of us.  But the sinners either left the church long ago or haven't

killfile.zip    rn KILL file FAQ from Leanne Phillips
4356 Dec 22 23:41 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/doc-net/killfile.zip

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: BOO Format Archive ???
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 08:50:37 GMT

law30129@nusunix1.nus.sg (GNANASIHAMANI KANNAN) writes:

>      I came across this ftp site - pdsoft.lancs.ac.uk where there 
>      was some win3 shareware I needed.  Only problem was it was
>      in BOO format archive - never heard of it.  To top it all
>      the DEBOO prog provided at the site was faulty.
>      Can anyone out there tell me where I can find DEBOO.

You can try to get the file msbpct.exe from /kermit/bin at
watsun.cc.columbia.edu ... that is a boo decoder ...

Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: What to do with *.zip?
Date: 28 Dec 92 10:55:21 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <kko.725533589@sfu.ca> kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko) writes:
>claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese) writes:

>>Well there are 2 things that you could do. The first is what Timo will
>>probably say. Read the FAQ posted on Saturdays. Or you can archie a file

>I prefer to use the "spoon-feeding" approach ... :)
>So, to the original question ...

This suits me fine.  Your help, Samuel is welcome, as always.  One
problem with my FAQ method is that it might deter others from giving
useful answers.  That is not my purpose.  The advantage of FAQs is
that there are likely to be less errors than in spontaneous answers
(Samuel's in fact partly comes from his own "FAQ" collection
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/filelist/useful19.zip.  Take a look, Gentle
Users, if you haven't.  I can guarantee it will be worth your
while).  Another advantage of FAQs is that they teach users the
actual skills to look for material and to solve problems.

So, I am quite happy to have this both ways if helful users like
Samuel give the direct answers as well.

A word to the gentle users: There is nothing wrong with asking a FAQ
(how else could a question become FAQ in the first place if no one
asks it :-).

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d