HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jrobi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jim Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: WHERE TO GET NIOBIUM?
Summary: Reactive Metals Studio
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:59:50 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Dec9.120432.13381@schbbs.mot.com> RYNA10@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Jay Kopycinski) writes:
>CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHERE I CAN PURCHASE NIOBIUM WIRE ?
>
>APPRECIATE ANY HELP.................jay

Reactive Metals Studio Inc.
P.O. Box 890
Clarkdale, AZ 86324
602/634-3434

-- 
Jim Robinson                              jrobi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Trust me, I'm a lawyer (but nothing written here is legal advice.)
From: dancer@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: nipple piercings/large breasts
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:23:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <BzC1s5.KB6@ecf.toronto.edu>, chachra@ecf.toronto.edu (CHACHRA Debbie) writes:
>>On the other hand, my 3 month old inner labia piercings are doing great.
>>I had Titanium rather than stainless or gold so I think that helped.
> 
> Out of all my piercings (assorted ear, tragus, nostril, nipple, inner labia)
> the labia piercings gave me absolutely the least trouble (ie none at all).
> Where did you get titanium rings?
> 
Got them at LIL:VII from Gauntlet. Pierced by Jim Ward.

Hope that helps.

---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---*---
Dream Dancer                               dancer@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
aka                                        dancer@acm.rpi.edu
Martha Underwood                             Four cats and a
                                             burmese python
From: barb@public.BTR.COM (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: tattoo nightmares
Date: 14 Dec 92 07:33:48 GMT
Organization: Saint Sebastian's School for Wicked Girls

In article <4318@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>
>
>Last night I had a dream that I've been having a lot lately.  I get
>a great idea for a tattoo, go get it, and once it's done I look at
>it, and think "eeeewwww!  what was I thinking?  that looks terrible!".
>
>Does this happen to anyone else?  

Well, once I dreamed that I had Karl's tattoos on me. That was pretty
much of a nightmare. (No offense, Karl... they look fine on you.)
I just remember looking down and going "I have a giant heart with my
own name on it tattooed on my chest! How vain!" 

But really Ray, you know what I think? They say that falling dreams
are the body's way of letting you know you're still alive. I think
your dream is your mind's way of letting you know you're not stupid.

-Barb

Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Subject: Re: Reflections and Questions on my new hobby..
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:00:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.145630.1@mscf.med.upenn.edu> smith@mscf.med.upenn.edu (Amelia T. Smith) writes:
(Amelia's very amusing story deleted for brevity...)

>I ordered my lunch, and then explained that the piercing was 
>relatively painless at the hands of a professional piercer. As 
>she was leaving (having aquired *her* lunch), she asked if I was 
>joking about the "other" pierce. Nearly dropped said lunch when I 
>said I wasn't ...
>
>Amelia, still chuckling about *that* one.

That's really funny. Yeah, I get some surprised looks when people find out
about my nipple pierces... Ah, wait'll I get my next pierce! (which in all
likelihood will be a PA - can't wait for that gushin' blood! :-))

It definitely is fun freaking people out... --Erik

-- 
Erik Bailey   | Cambridge Technology Partners      | The usual disclaimer
              | 304 Vassar St., Cambridge MA 02139 | applies: this post is
ebail@ctp.com | (617) 374-8418                     | mine, not my employer's.
      /earth is 98% full; please remove any excess inhabitants.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: Reflections and Questions on my new hobby..
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:27:13 GMT

tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Jumpin Dude) writes:
>tom@Ingres.COM (We are such things as dreams are made on.) writes:
>>    The PA bleeds for several days.. really a mess, but not
>>    that painful.
>I'm wondering how the rest of you folks bled or didn't.

I did my own PA.  I didn't really do mine "properly."  I put the
needle through and pulled it all the way out before inserting the
ring.  When I pulled the needle out I bled quite heavily.  I just
wrapped it up and squeezed real hard for a few minutes.  The
bleeding stopped and I put the ring through.  I only bled a little
over the next three days.  It's been great ever since.

>My hole stretched just enough to accomodate the larger ring..

You can keep stretching.  I started with a 14 gauge and can now
wear a 6 gauge ring or small padlock.  ;-)

>Doing your own PA is not so bad; then, I can't fathom letting someone
>prick my prick, so to speak.

I did my own because the nearest place to get a piercing was over
300 miles away.  A PA is about the only piercing I'd consider
doing on my own.

---
Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p
This signature is not Politically Correct, just differently worded!

Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:42:08 GMT

jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene) writes:

>Could some kind soul send me the FAQ for this group?  Also, any guys
>with relatively small nipples have any piercing experiences to share.
>I'm interested...  Thanks.

Well, by small I assume you mean that they don't stick out far.  Mine
were flat as can be.  The classic nipple pierce goes not through the
protuding part of the nipple, but rather behind it, through the aroleus
(sp?).  The consistent side effect is that the aroeus bluges out afterwards.
Go flip through a tatoo magazine in a convenience store if you havn't seen
one before.  If I've misunderstood your question please ask it
again.
-- 
Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca| Q: Why did the Jungle Fowl cross the road?          |
Behavioural Ecology   | A: To maximize it's lifetime reproductive success   |
Dept.Biol.Sci., SFU.  | Q: Huh?                                             |
Burnaby B.C., Canada  | A: I guess it just needed to get to the other side. |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: grego@netcom.com (greg huff)
Subject: Re: Reflections and Questions on my new hobby..
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:24:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.031521.17999@mercury.cair.du.edu> tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Jumpin Dude) writes:
|ring in, it hardly bled at all, just a bit overnight. I'm wondering how
|the rest of you folks bled or didn't. 
|

Jim Ward did mine at Mr. S in SF (before Gauntlet SF opened) and I only 
had one drop.

grego
--

"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you might as well dance."
-- 
grego@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: braunste@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (Lance Braunstein)
Subject: navel
Organization: NASA Code 971, Oceans & Ice Branch
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:08:06 GMT

hi.  seems like my navel pierce is migrating toward the edge.  it's about 2
months old now and is still a bit red but otherwise looks ok.  any suggestions
on how to stop this unwanted migration?

lance
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Looking for viking tatoo
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:25:53 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Dec15.005514.94770@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mar3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL AARON RISKIN) writes:
>If anyone has a viking tatoo please respond.
>Will pay up to $500 for one.

You mean we can sell these when we're done with them?

Karl, can I borrow your family-crest-opus for a party?





-- 
Ray Shea                                      
UniSQL, Inc.                             Sometimes I feel like a blue dog.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu                                     -- The Blue Dog
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: I'm finally get'n my nipple done
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:03:37 GMT

I'm finally getting my nipple pierced on saturday!  My girlfriend is paying
for it as a Christmas gift.  I'm paying for her to get her labia pierced.
Thanx to everyone who has taken the time to answer my questions and give 
advice.  I'll post when I get back from break and tell ya' all about it.

Merry Holidays whatever the religion.

Beth *;>
From: jjjjack@buchmf.bu.edu (Jack E. Greene)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Tatoos and Hemophilia?
Date: 15 Dec 92 07:43:32 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

I have a strange situation

I have been intereted in getting a tatoo for a long time now but I am
apprehensive.  I have factor XI hemophilia and as a result have a large
problem getting my blood to clot.

Usually this is not a problem at all.  Minor cuts just seem to take longer to
heal than for regular folx.  The big problem is internal bleeding (that
includes bleeding under the skin).  It takes *forever* for these bleeds to
stop.

I was wondering how much bleeding is involved in getting a tatoo (if any) and
how long it lasted.  I am also interetsed in if the area gets bruised during
the process and once again...how long the bruise seem to last.

thanks
Jack (jjjjack@buchmf.bu.edu)
From: smith@mscf.med.upenn.edu (Amelia T. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Reflections and Questions on my new hobby..
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:56:30 GMT
Organization: Medical School Computer Facility, UPENN

In article <1992Dec13.071531.5385@nevada.edu>, clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb) writes:
> tom@Ingres.COM (We are such things as dreams are made on.) writes:
>>    What kind of reactions do you get from non-pierced people?
> 
> Whenever I tell someone about my PA or nipple piercing the first
> question is always: "didn't that hurt?"  I just smile and say "yes."  ;-)

Heh heh heh.

As I stood in line to get lunch the other day, the other person 
in line noticed my tragus pierce. She said to me, "Is that a 
piercing? That must be the most painful thing you've ever 
experienced!"

As calmly (and straight-facedly) as possible, I replied, "No, the 
first clitoral hood pierce hurt *much* worse! ... But that wasn't  
the most painful thing - that would have to be the cortisone 
shots into the bursa in my hip."

Poor woman was speechless for quite a few seconds. And was then 
very gracious, saying that "she guessed she'd asked for that".

I ordered my lunch, and then explained that the piercing was 
relatively painless at the hands of a professional piercer. As 
she was leaving (having aquired *her* lunch), she asked if I was 
joking about the "other" pierce. Nearly dropped said lunch when I 
said I wasn't ...

Amelia, still chuckling about *that* one.

                   ----- Amelia T. Smith -----
University of Pennsylvania     Internet: smith@mscf.med.upenn.edu 
Opinions: MINE! MINE! MINE!    NBCS: H-f-t-w++d-s+(+)k+p++e++g+  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: chachra@ecf.toronto.edu (CHACHRA Debbie)
Subject: Re: nipple piercings/large breasts
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:31:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.155333.2756@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> dancer@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.172040.9673@newstand.syr.edu>, 
>sldesroc@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Shannon L. Desroches) writes:
>> What are some of the experiences of women with large breasts who've had their 
>> nipples pierced?  Does there seem to be an  (Oops--sorry) extra-long 
>> healing perioed in comparison to friends of less voluptitude who have 
>> undergone the same process?  Does one have to go braless for a while? I am 
>> seriously considering having both nipples pierced, but absolutely cannot 
>> go without a bra, lest they start swinging around my knees.
>
>I'm a 36DD and after getting my nipples pierced, my body literally spat
>them out. I think they lasted about 3 months by which time one had about 3 mm
>of flesh between it and the 'real world'. Also, they've never truely healed 
>even after 3-4 years (or is it 5 now, I forget). Now, my nipples are flat
>and I'm sensitive to metals.
>
>On the other hand, my 3 month old inner labia piercings are doing great.
>I had Titanium rather than stainless or gold so I think that helped.
>

Weeelll, I'm *pretty* well-endowed (C-ish) and I had no difficulty at all 
with mine.  However, I did get a Gauntlet nipple retainer - there's a 
straight (and in my case, 14 ga) post that goes through the nipple, and a 
20 ga wire that encircles it, at the base.  There isn't anything to stick
out, or get caught, or get pushed against, and I wore a bra constantly (al-
though, for obvious reasons, I avoided those that had a seam across the 
breast.>

Out of all my piercings (assorted ear, tragus, nostril, nipple, inner labia)
the labia piercings gave me absolutely the least trouble (ie none at all).
Where did you get titanium rings?

On a related note, does anyone know anyone who can custom-make Ti-6Al-4V
rings?

Cheers,

Debbie




Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: schlossy@stein.u.washington.edu (Joseph Schloss)
Subject: Re: Listing of Types
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:58:59 GMT

FYI: PIERCING NAMES [as per"Modern Primitives"]
Ampallang: goes through the head of the penis from left to right
Dydoe:goes through the rim of the penis head, parallel to it
Apadravya: goes diagonally from above the urethra straight through
     exiting right below the penis head on the opposite side
Frenum: pirecing the loose flesh beneath the penis head, ring can
     hang down or be "flipped" to go around the penis head
Guiche:piercing through the perineum [sic?]
Prince Albert: piercing entering through the urethra and exiting
     at the base of the penis head
Hafada: piercing throught the scrotum sac 

For more info [and a bunch of interesting stories about the
above modifications] read the book. *note* this list is only
an attempt to explain the fancy sounding ones that aren't
otherwise self-explanatory -- it sure as heck isn't all-inclusive.
Please send more if I've missed [or misspelled] any.

"The first duty of man is to be artificial" -- Oscar Wilde

Jessamyn [JWEST@hamp.hampshire.edu] 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: clements@shade.Princeton.EDU (John Brinckerhoff Clements)
Subject: Re: Listing of Types
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Bubble-Headed Foo Foo Inc. 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:40:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.085859.20838@u.washington.edu> schlossy@stein.u.washington.edu (Joseph Schloss) writes:
>Ampallang: goes through the head of the penis from left to right

  Actually, mine goes from right to left.

sorry, sorry.

john clements
21, pinko nerpton

Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: ts_rost@pavo.concordia.ca (*TsR)
Subject: Piercers in Toronto
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:52:00 GMT

Does anyone know of any reputable/quality piercers in Toronto or surrounding
area?  I had my nostril pierce done in Toronto several years ago, but at the
time I was a bodyart neophyte :^) and simply got it done with a small piercing
gun at the only earpiercing place that didnt balk at the suggestion.

Now I'm interested in a "real" pierce :^) - specifically, inner labia pierce.
I've looked around Montreal and cant seem to find any decent places here. Since
I'll be back home in Toronto for the next month, I'd rather it get it done
there. So if anyone knows of a good piercer in Toronto, please let me know.

Thanks.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Tanja Rosteck   -   Concordia University, Montreal, K-bec, Canada
E-mail          -   ts_rost@pavo.concordia.ca
------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: tattoo nightmares
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:21:48 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1gno9pINNhae@roche.csl.sri.com> kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae) writes:
>	No wait, maybe it's just his penis reminding him that it's 
>	still in controll?

Ha!  I'll just get it pierced.  That'll show it who's boss.

-- 
Ray Shea                                      
UniSQL, Inc.                             Sometimes I feel like a blue dog.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu                                     -- The Blue Dog
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: dlopes@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (dominic lopes)
Subject: Toronto tattooists
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:52:27 GMT


Can anybody recommend a tattooist in Toronto? I'm thinking about a
small, figurative tattoo.

Thanks.
From: joe@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Joe Judge)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: tattoo nightmares
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:30:59 GMT
Organization: AT&T


	Whew! ... thanks. I thought I was wierd or something. I've had 
	this "forgotten class" dream every once in a while. I left
	the university in 1992.

	- joe
	

	

In article <4318@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>
>(The only other non-sex-related recurring dream I have is the standard 
>"Oh shit!  I just remembered I'm registered for [English 430/Math 504/
>substitute your nightmare class here] and I haven't been to class for
>months and the final is next week!" dream, which I've been having all the
>time even though I've been out of school for almost 5 years now.)
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: tattoo nightmares
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:52:47 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <8470@public.BTR.COM> barb@public.BTR.COM (Barbara MacRae) writes:
>But really Ray, you know what I think? They say that falling dreams
>are the body's way of letting you know you're still alive. I think
>your dream is your mind's way of letting you know you're not stupid.


Does that mean that my dreams of sex with various people is just my mind's
way of reminding me I'm married?



-- 
Ray Shea                                      
UniSQL, Inc.                             Sometimes I feel like a blue dog.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu                                     -- The Blue Dog
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: Pa Question(sorry forgot title)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:12:11 GMT

Wild Bill Corona writes:
>In Article 4545 <wolfie@netcom.com> (Cinnamon DeWolf) asks:

>1. I like my PA...simple, quick, painless, *and* I haven't had a headache
>   for months!! =:>

If I'd heard rumours that PA's prevented headaches I'd have gotten a HUGE
one years ago.  But as it is I still get headaches with my PA, (is this
a joke I don't get?). (Only one migrane today, 'scuze me but is there any
chance I might be able to get my muffin with tylenol chips instead of 
chocolate?....).

-- 
Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca| Q: Why did the Jungle Fowl cross the road?          |
Behavioural Ecology   | A: To maximize it's lifetime reproductive success   |
Dept.Biol.Sci., SFU.  | Q: Huh?                                             |
Burnaby B.C., Canada  | A: I guess it just needed to get to the other side. |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: Reflections and Questions on my new hobby...
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:40:09 GMT

wjc00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com () writes:
>I have one female aquantence that always grabs my chest, where my nipple
>ring is, and asks if I still have it...touchy-feelies!!!!!

It's amazing how many things bump into your nipples when they're
pierced!  ;-)

>Now that you've brought it up; I wonder what the nude beach will be like
>with all this hardware installed?  Naturists(pc) GAWKING ??!!!

I get some interesting reactions in the shower at the gym.  People
usually stare.  I've only had a couple actually ask me about them.
It's funny watching the guys trying not to stare but not being
able to keep their eyes away.

My favorite incident happened while I was sitting on the edge of the
jacuzzi.  The guy sitting across from me said: "I don't want you to
think I'm, uh, staring at your, uh, thing but, uh, didn't that hurt?"
We ended up having an intelligent conversation about Prince Alberts
and bodyart.

---
Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p
This signature is not Politically Correct, just differently worded!

Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: Reflections and Questions on my new hobby..
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:42:22 GMT

mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Magic Mike) writes:
>(Chris L. Cobb) writes:
>>Whenever I tell someone about my PA or nipple piercing the first
>>question is always: "didn't that hurt?"  I just smile and say "yes."  ;-)
>Yeah, that was one of my favorite replies to people asking about my
>tragus piercing. I grew tired of it, though, (since you get the same
>damn question several times a week).

I heard a great response last night.  A fellow pierced friend was
asked about his Prince Albert.  His reply to the tired "didn't that
hurt," was "not as much as being circumcised!"  That put things in
perspective real fast.  Of course, for the uncut, this won't produce
the same result.  :-)

>After a few hours I grew tired of the never ending questions, so I
>gently took her hand and guided it under my t-shirt, to touch my
>pierced nipple...!

I really love to delay the revelation of my piercings to a lover
until the very last minute: in bed, rolling around, groping--and
suddenly--a brief pause when the metal is discovered.  This is
then followed by a few moments of confusion as the other party
tries to figure out what's attached to where.  This has sent a
few lovers right over the edge.  I've had a couple of serious
tops become bottoms just to acquire the experience.

---
Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p
This signature is not Politically Correct, just differently worded!
From: Wild Bill Corona
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Pa Question(sorry forgot title)
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:24:52 GMT
Reply-To: wjc00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Organization: Pottersville U.S.A.


In Article 4545 <wolfie@netcom.com> (Cinnamon DeWolf) asks:

>I've been considering getting a PA for quite awhile now, to supplement the
>rest of the nasty little bits of metal I've been putting in my body. I suppose
>I could just inquire directly to someone who has one about it, but I thought
>I would get put forth the question to al of youse.

1. I like my PA...simple, quick, painless, *and* I haven't had a headache
   for months!! =:>

2. "Youse???" You're not from Chicago, by any chance??...South Sider????

>With most piercings body type/shape/whatever doesn't matter. For ex, I have
>a nipple and had a frenum till I removed it, and will be getting a guiche. Those
>particular body parts can be pierced on just about anyone. However, the opening
>to my urethra (Piss-slit, for the crass) is fairly small. Does anyone know of
>problems/difficulties/things to think about when getting a PA with such a
>attribute? Apologies if this has already been covered recently.

When I got my PA it was a bit tight, but as time passed and my body got
used to it, the ring seemed to find it's own place in the scheme of the
universe, as it where...My urethra actually got a little bigger to
accomodate the ring.  Works like a charm now !!  YMMV

>Cinnamon

Bill
--
 Willam Corona  / "Blood makes noise...it's a \ '92 Suzuki Katana 750
 Amdahl Corp.   \ ringing in my ears..."     "/"Life is what happens while
 Sunnyvale, CA. / wjc00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com   \ making other plans."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^