HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: towfiq@FTP.COM (Mark Towfiq)
Subject: Return of 12th Imam (Mahdi) (was: Reply to  Bahaies  gang)
Reply-To: towfiq@FTP.COM
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:33:33 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:45:44 GMT, seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed
>>>>> Mahdavian) said:

sm> I suggest people interested in this subject (specially bahaies) to
sm> read the following book: "entezAr, mazhabe e'terAz" by Dr. Ali
sm> Shari'ati.  In this book, Shari'ati writes (among other
sm> interesting topics): "... during this period, at least 12 people
sm> have claimed to be Mahdi Mo'oud!"

  I think that is true, it was at least that many.  That brings up two
questions:

	1) what happenend to the followers of the other 11 (at least)
	   people who also claimed to be the Mahdi?

	2) why is no one today claiming to be the Mahdi, i.e. what was
	   important about that time?

  I would suggest answering (1) by investigating the claims and
characters of these other 11 (or more!) "Mahdis", what they said, what
they did, the character and deeds of their followers, etc.

  I would suggest answering (2) by investigating the prophecies that
told about the Mahdi and the Day of Judgement, the "Time of the End",
etc.  In this case, Muslims have a very special advantage, because
they have both the Qur`an and Biblical prophecies to investigate.

  The most fascinating of these, to me, is the time "1260" which is
mentioned throughout the Bible--the year 1260 AH/1844 AD is the year
the Bab declared Himself to be the Mahdi.  This is also exactly 1000
years after the disappearance of the 12th Imam.  I think this would
explain why so many people at that time were claiming to be the
Mahdi--because that was the time for Him to appear!

sm> By the way, I want to reserve ' for "eyn". That's why I write
sm> Bahai and not Baha'i.

  Actually, most transliteration scripts I have seen use ` for letter
"ayn" and ' for hamzih.  So the name of the Son of Baha'u'llah is
spelt `Abdu'l-Baha', for example, or the Holy Book of Islam is the
Qur`an.
--
Mark Towfiq, FTP Software, towfiq@FTP.COM, W:+1 617 224 6275, H:+1 617 488 2818

Science investigates; religion interprets.  Science gives man knowledge which
is power; religion gives man wisdom which is control.  Science deals mainly
with facts; religion deals mainly with values.  The two are not rivals.  They
are complementary.  Science keeps religion from sinking into the valley of
crippling irrationalism and paralyzing obscurantism.  Religion prevents science
from falling into the marsh of obsolete materialism and moral nihilism.
		-- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.german,rec.travel.air
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Need your help!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:06:20 GMT



I am planning to travel to Hamburg/Germany within next month. Could anyone 
recommend any inexpensive flight to me, or does anybody know any good and
caring agent to help me out. 

Thanks in advance for any info.
Amir Taghavi

P.S. Please either post it or reply directly to me
     (mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
From: baze@milton.u.washington.edu (Behzad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:10:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr7.041055.5511
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <saied.702538216@odin> saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>
>
>According to the Mojahedin, the terrorist
>Khomeini regime attacked one of the NLA bases
>this morning. One NLA combatant was martyred.
>Some buildings and military equipment were
>damaged. One of the attacking planes was
>downed and the pilot and co-pilot captured.
>
>The supporters of the Iranian resistance
>in New York, Ottawa, and 16 other European
>countries have attacked the terrorist nests
>of the regime, setting the place afire, or
>destroying regime's belongings.
>
>A demonstration is planned for Tuesday.
>
>The Leader of the Iranian Resistance has
>sent telegrams to the UN Sec. General, 
>members of the UN Security Council, and 
>other UN bodies, condmening the attack.
>
>More details later.
>


  No need to post this up again.  You have humiliated yourselves 
  internationally already and that's good enough.  Vandalism and
  ransacking offices is childish and accomplishes nothing.

  As I said before..  GROW UP!!


 Behzad:  
   BAZE@U.WASHINGTON.EDU   
 "Ever try, ever fail.  Never mind.  Try harder, fail better!" --Sam Beckett
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: A Quick Question
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:23:43 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Apr9.175252.15477@Princeton.EDU> bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi) writes:
>In article <sehari.702833956@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>>of the hostage taking was started at the shaw's time, you guys remember
>                                          ^^^^^

>Q1- Why does Babak call shah, shaw.

actually he does type shah when he means shah.  he was refering to george
bernard shaw in that sentence.  babak rarely makes spelling mistakes.

>Q2- Why does Babak's smily looks like this -:)

if in a smiley, ':' are the eyes, and ')' is the mouth, then
the '-' in -:) can only be the scar from lobotomy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad)
Subject: Re: Rostam
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 05:56:25 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Apr6.135154.25686@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> fsameri@perch.lerc.nasa.gov (Ali Ameri) writes:
>In article <1992Apr04.222135.2418@eng.umd.edu> alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad) writes:

     <Lines deleted>
>
> It  would be  racism if you started calling them names like you call Arabs
> names.
> Anyway more power to anyone who wants to make Iran free and Independent
> and prosperous. But racism is not the way. I will not participate is this 
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> disscussion anymore. It is getting totally mixed with extreneous arguements. 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> You are just full of displaced hate.


HALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH


Payandeh Baad Iran
Alireza
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: fsameri@perch.lerc.nasa.gov (Ali Ameri)
Subject: Re: Real Bankrupts (was: Mojahedin revisted
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:44:29 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.222428.6054@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
>In article <saied.702935700@odin>, saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>|>    5. The Mojahedin never stop fighting this biggest enemy of Iranians.
>|>       The Mojahedin are courageous and are willing to sacrifice
>|>       everything they have for their people. That is alot to be proud of.
>|>       And that is something others, specially the psuedo-intellectual,
>|>       can't claim.
>|> 
>|>       Those who have given up the struggle and have lost their
>|>       hopes are the bankrupts not the Mojahedin who are getting
>|>       more serious each day.
>
>People have lost hope because they have seen you guys as the only 
>replacement for the current regime.  
>
>So if getting out of the chAleh means jumping into MostaraAh then I'd rather
>stay in the chAleh.  ( I could have used chAh instead of MostaraAh but in 
>case of NLA the later is more appropriate )
>
>chAh       ==  a deeeeep hole 
>chAleh     ==  ditch
>MostaraAh  ==  Out House  (often a ditch)
>
>|> 
>|> I could go on, but I think the above in enough for now.
>|> 
>
>
>

 Well my friend why don't you go ahead and restore hope to the people of 
Iran. It would be nice to see how armchair intellectuals like yourself
would do. 
 I will not dignify your remarks about the out house. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: NOOR, Electronics Publication issues 12 to 16
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:15:31 GMT


Hi folks,

Noor  Electronics Publication  issues 12 through 16 is ready 
in Compressed Postscript format on Tehran.Stanford.EDU (36.28.0.189)
via anonymous FTP.


---------  FOR  new  SCI  readers --------------

In order to extract the NOOR issues from Tehran (if you are not
familiar with anonymous ftp)

                          (  %  is  UNIX prompt )
type the following:       ( ftp> is the prompt)   <...> is comment

% ftp tehran.stanford.edu
Connected to tehran.stanford.edu.
220 Tehran.Stanford.EDU FTP server
Name (tehran.stanford.edu:farhad):  anonymous   <--- Type  anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
Password: xxxxx            <----  USE anything for passwd
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> 
ftp> bin                <BINARY MODE,  This has to be done>
ftp> cd noor
ftp> dir                <look what is in the directory>
ftp> get issue?.ps.Z    < ?  is  the issue number >

after you have extracted the file, then you can do the following
to print it on a Postscript printer ONLY:

zcat issue?.ps.Z | lpr -Pyour_printer
          ^              ^^^^^^^^^^^^
          |                   |_________ Your favorit PS printer name.
          |
          |__  issue number(s)

"zcat is a link to compress."


These documents were written with Interleaf and some PS printers 
may not like the ps file. 
I am trying to fix this problem soon.



Please send all comments to  Dr. Nasser Modiri
(nasser@tehran.stanford.edu)

But if you have any problem  extracting the files please let me know.


Thanks
-- 
         +----------------------------------------------------+
        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department                        /
     +----------------------------------------------------+
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Reply to  Bahaies  gang
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:12:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Apr6.173627.1174@wuecl.wustl.edu> seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:

>>
>>"All the Ghoraba use KhAtEm, while Athim use KhAtAm. KhAtEm in KhAtem'u-
>> Nabeein means the Ender of Prophets, or the Seal of Prophets, while, 
>                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I don't believe that the above mentioned Allameh didn't know the meaning
>of "khaatam" and "khaatem". Khaatem does mean "ender", but not "seal".
>Please check again your reference or your English translation.
>
>> KhAtAm in KhAtam'u-Nabeein means ring and ornament. In essence Muhammad, 
>> the Messenger of God, was the Ring or Ornament of (i.e. among) the 
>> Prophets, due to His exalted station compared to other Prophets." 
>
>That's correct. Note that he does not say that Mohammad(s) is NOT the Seal
>of the prophets.

In his new book "History of Middle East Revisited", famed scholar Naivad
Ham, writes (p 56):

"Many debates have broken out on the encripted message in that sentence.  
However, recent research has shown that ``Mohammand is the _Seal_ of all 
Prophets'', simply and metaphorically compares him to the aquatic mammal 
with a smooth and torpedo shaped body".  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb)
Subject: For Babak wuz Re: MoahA'ereh as well : -) Re: "The Successor" by GholAm Hossein SAedi
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organizatoin
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:49:47 GMT

In article <sehari.703302556@vincent1.iastate.edu> 
sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>With all of our disagreements, Asgar Agha, We both have the same opinion
>on this issue.  

Upon finding out that you share an opinion with him, Asghar AghA fainted
and had to be rushed to the hospital. As it turned out, he had attempted
to commit suicide after finding out that he shares an opinion with you or
he was referred to as "We" along with you.

Please leave Asghar AghA alone. You have expressed your most heartfelt
feelings and opinions for him. He really does not need any attention
from you anymore. And please don't cause him to react in any such manner
by grouping him with your highly esteemed self and calling it "We".

I am sure (I hope) you have better things to do with your life such as
writing lovely stories and sending Maryam Joon jokes to our local 
mojAhedaks. 

You have taken his "Aberoo" far enough. Please leave him alone and do 
not attribute any such things (sharing an opinion) to him.

Thank you very much.

Aref
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:15:17 GMT
Organization: UB

What the heck was the point of attacking Iran's Embassies ? you
accomplished nothing but arrest of few people and humiliation ... 

I thought Mojahedin claim that they are not a terrorist group !!!!!

god only knows , right ? 
  
Wrong
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Plane carrying Arafat reported missing
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 02:23:34 GMT


	CAIRO (UPI) -- A plane carrying Palestine Liberation Organization
Chairman Yasser Arafat from Sudan was reported missing Tuesday night,
Radio Libya said in a report monitored in Cairo.
	The station Voice of the Great Arab World said that radio contact
with the plane was lost at 8:45 p.m. local time (2:45 p.m. EDT) when the
aircraft was in Libyan airspace.
	Libyan civil aviation authorities ``appealed to all civil aviation
authorities, satellites and the International Red Cross for help to find
the location'' of Arafat and the plane, the radio said.
	In Washington, an official said ``the State Department was following
the situation.''
	Arafat was said to be on a mission to visit a PLO camp in Libya when
his plane was reported missing, the official said.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject:  F  A  C  T
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:28:47 GMT


	WASHINGTON (UPI) -- An estimated 1 million Americans are infected with
HIV, the virus which causes AIDS, and the disease AIDS has killed over
138,000 since its discovery 10 years ago, according to the Centers for
Disease Control.
	AIDS has affected two major sports figures in the past five months.
Former tennis great Arthur Ashe Wednesday confirmed he had AIDS, and
Magic Johnson retired from the NBA's Los Angeles Lakers last November
after contracting HIV.
	Unlike Johnson, who attributed his contracting the virus to
promiscuous heterosexual sex, Ashe said he developed the disease from a
blood transfusion nearly nine years ago. He said he has known of it
since 1988.
	The human immunodeficiency virus slowly but surely kills enough
disease-fighting T-cells so that a person becomes susceptible to a host
of life-threatening illnesses called ``opportunistic infections.''
	Only after an HIV-positive person develops one or more of these
infections is he or she considered to have AIDS. Months or years can
pass before this occurs.
	``The interval between becoming infected and being or feeling ill on
average is 10 years,'' said Dr. June Osborn, professor of epidemiology
at the University of Michigan and chairwoman of the National Commission
on AIDS.
	Improvements in the treatment of these infections also has resulted
in an increase in life expectancy after diagnosis with AIDS.
Considerable research also is underway to prolong the amount of time
between infection and development of the disease.
	Kaposi's sarcoma, a soft tissue cancer, and Pneumocystis carinii
pneumonia, a lung infection caused by a parasite, are among the common
opportunistic infections .
	The drug AZT and 13 others approved for AIDS and AIDS-related
conditions have increased a patient's ability to live with the disease.
	Widely used blood tests can detect antibodies to HIV but not the
disease itself. A positive test result does not by itself mean a person
has the disease.
	Antibodies are disease-fighting molecules which develop after
exposure to the virus.
	HIV is transmitted by exchange of body fluids, such as blood or
semen. Most of its victims in the United States have been homosexuals
and intravenous drug abusers.
	As of Feb. 29, 1992, the Centers for Disease Control recorded 213,641
cases of AIDS and 138,395 deaths from the disease.
	The agency recorded 12,510 cases of heterosexually transmitted AIDS.
	U.S. Public Health Service estimates about 1 million persons
currently are infected with HIV.
	The PHS projects that by the end of 1993, up to 480,000 cases of AIDS
will have been reported and up to 340,000 Americans will have died from
the disease.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hooshyar@scrp.Stanford.EDU (Hooshyar)
Subject: Re: Reply to  Bahaies  gang
Reply-To: hooshyar@scrp.stanford.edu (Hooshyar)
Organization: Stanford Cardiac Rehab Program
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 09:05:46 GMT

seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>
>           ******** A book about Bahaism ********
>
>
>I was wandering in the library, suddenly I told myself: Let's look if I can
>find a book about bahaism. Unexpectedly I found an interesting book:
>     ^
>"Studies in Babi and Bahai History" volume one, edited by: Moojan Momen
>1982 Kalimat press.
>
Only one book about Baha'i Faith?  Gee, seyyed, please tell me which library
it was so I can send more Baha'i books to its librarian so that you won't have
to find one *unexpectedly* any more.

>This book contains a lot of pictures, including pictures from Baha-u-llah
>with pilgrims. None of the pilgrims had "Hijab" (cover). Just a look at
>the pictures of the EARLY followers of Baha-u-llah was so much informative
>to me !! I tried to read a little bit. On page 18 of this book, I read that
>Bab claimed at first that he was a messenger of Imam Mahdi(a), the son of
>Imam Hassan Askari(a) (shows how exactly he claimed to be a Shi'a). Then
>later he changed his claim and said that he was Imam Mahdi himself !!!
>(I understand now why his followers are so confused and contradictory! )

I thought you knew long time ago why Baha'is were so confused and
contradictory.  Never mind though, at least you know now.

>This book has a lot of references and has 5 authors: 3 from England, one
>from Israel, and one from Nigeria. 

Any other authors from Russia or US of A to complete the conspiracy?

>Borrow it from your library today. If you don't want to read it, at least
>look at the pictures !!

I have already, but because you say so I will again, just for the
pictures though!

>Seyyed.

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
hooshyar@scrp.stanford.edu
(415) 324-1055


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: amin@pasha1.mro4.dec.com (Pasha)
Subject: re: re: Ali (Dorood bar oo bAd)
Reply-To: amin@pasha1.mro4.dec.com (Pasha)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:41:22 GMT


|> In article <1992Mar27.220246.29217@cs.odu.edu>, afghahi@news.cs.odu.edu writes:
> Sir, nothing that starts with "Al" interests me. 
> 

There is one word starting with "Al" that most of us like, Al-mAss (diamond)

This reminds me of a story by Doctor Shari-ati (maybe attributed to him)

The original word for diamond in PArsi was mAss. Then the Arabs and Islam came. Eventually, persians/iranians started calling it Al-mAss. Then the word went back to Arabic and now in Arabic they call it Al-Al-mAss. Just think how funny is going to get after going back and forth couple of more times.

I don't understand what the big deal is about the influence of Arabic on Persian language. After all, a lot of us have Arabic names like Mohammad, Ali, ...

Fe-lan                                             PAshA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hakim@bigq.enet.dec.com (Kamran Hakim)
Subject: Re: Ali ("Dorood bar oo bAd")
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:56:17 GMT


>In article <1992Mar30.212927.16922@engage.pko.dec.com> hakim@bigq.enet.dec.com (Kamran Hakim) writes:

KH> 2- Another reason for the usage of the lunar calendar in Islam is that 
KH>    Jewish Faith, Christianity and Islam are sister religions, and
KH>    their PROPHECIES are intertwined, and related to one-another, and
KH>    predict the same final event........... If Islam was to use a solar 
KH>    calendar, the prophecies of these religions could not have converged.

In article <1992Apr3.123436.912@fmg.bt.co.uk>, ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein 
Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani) you write:

HBR>Oops! I thought we are engaged in a "serious" discussion here.  

This strange. I thought so too. :-)

HBR>You should do better than this to propogate your religion among a group with
HBR>the level of intelligence as those on the net.

:-) :-) Mr. Rafsanjani, my religion will be propagated and established, 
not by me, or through my efforts, but, by the actions of those who are 
so hateful towards it! Let us ascend above puny name calling and reading 
into what other people write here, and return to the topic of discussion 
which is: "Why Islam uses a lunar calendar?" 

It is perfectly reasonable to supply a theological answer to a theo-
logical question. I have no doubt about the intelligence of those on 
the net, this is why I treated the subject in a serious manner. I 
have offered two possible reasons for the usage of the lunar calendar, 
and you appear to offer a good reason as well. Let us leave accusation 
and focus on the discussion.

Warm regards,

Kamran Hakim
From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: The Peace mission of a SCUD (was: The Lies ....)
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:40:46 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada

In article <2537@keele.keele.ac.uk> phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber) writes:

<[Modified imploding Al-Chosain goes here]>
>              ____________________\________________________________
               \                                __    |  |  |     / 
               |   |  .   |____!______!__!__!_____|___|  |  |    / 
               |   |______| . .                ..        |  |    \  
               /_______________________________.____________|_____\
>			          \

>With Peace

You can not buy peace with SCUDS.  

Here goes a few lines by MowlAnA Rumi that I hope will cheer you up a bit.

  Gaze on the cheeks of love that you may gain the attributes of 
true men; sit not with the cold ones so you will not be chilled by
their breath.
  From the cheeks of love seek something other than the form;
your business is to be a fellow sufferer in love.
  If you have the attributes of a clod[clay], you will never fly in the
air; you will fly in the air if you break to pieces and become dust.  
  If you do not break to pieces, he who composed you will break
you; when death breaks you, how will you become a unique 
pearl?
  When a leaf becomes yellow, the fresh root makes it green; 
why are you content with a love from which you turn yellow?

--df
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 04:52:29 GMT

suzi@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Suzan Ehdaie) writes:

>Di sheikh hami gasht gerd-e shahr ba cheragh

>	ke as div or dad malolam-o ensanam arezoost

>- Now start the other bayt with "Ta".

tA dar talab-e gohar-e kAnee   kAnee
		tA dar havas-e loghmeh nAnee   nAnee
een nokteh -o- ramz agar bedAnee   dAnee
		har cheez geh dar jostan Anee   Anee

y-e bedeh please.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian