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From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Subject: Re: HELP! Should I bother with 7.1?
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 01:18:57 GMT

In article <721350159.AA00000@blkcat.UUCP> Rick.Zeman@p943.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Zeman) writes:
>On 11/9/92@7:20:38 AM, Evan Mair was heard to say regarding "HELP! Should I
>bother with 7.1?:" 
>
> 
>  EM> Well, after playing with it for a while and testing it with some
>  EM> inits, etc, I truly can't figure why I should use it!!! The System
>  EM> uses 300+ more K than 7.0.1, and I am limited to having my fonts in
>  EM> one directory. Yes, things are cleaner, and nicer, but it certainly
>  EM> doesn't seem much different.
>  EM> 
>      7.1 must have problems with 68000 machines.  On my Classic, it uses 200k
>more memory than 7.01*, yet everyone I know with 030s report a decrease in
>memory used.
>

	I went ahead and installed on my two machines at home.  On a classic
(7.0.1, tuned up, filesharing on) the system grew by something like 10K.  On 
my Mac II (7.0, tuned up, filesharing on, PMMU) I got about 10K back.
	It's becoming obvious that memory shifts matter a lot depending on
what your setup is, from what I gather from the net.

	Interestingly enough, my favorite system 7 bug is still there. It's
the only one I've tried to reproduce.

Open sounds control panel
Copy a sound
Go to the Finder
Choose show clipboard
Open the Special menu, note that Clean Up Window is enabled

If you really want, choose it and you'll crash with a divide by zero.  So
while the system's probably cleaner, it's certaintly not perfect!

Has anybody tried their favorite (redrawing file sizes, obscuring the
white around the trash can, and having it not redraw, etc.)  bugs to see
if they're fixed?
-- 
Doug Wade  /  dwade@svcdudes.com  /   Disclaimer:  It's not official, folks. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru)
Subject: AppleShare 3.0 security hole
Reply-To: arie@eecs.umich.edu
Organization: AI Lab, The University of Michigan
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:08:09 GMT

There is a security hole in the AppleShare 3.0 password scheme.
Suppose I am a user (or even if I am not) on an AppleShare server,
but don't have administrator privileges. The following procedure will
enable me to assign them to myself and thus have future access to all
folders on the server.

1. Turn off the server.
2. Move the Users & Groups Data File file from the Preferences folder
   within the system folder to the root level of the system folder.
3. Open the administrator application. The administrator will allow you
   to set a new administrator password.

Once you do that, the users and groups lists and privileges from the
old file in the is copied to a new created file in the Preferences
folder and you have full access to the administrator, thus giving
yourself administrator privileges or even creating a new user name
with administrator privileges.
--


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: maw5506@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.A. Weissman)
Subject: Killing Cmd-Opt-Space in Sys 7.x
Summary: help killing KCHR switching in 7.x
Originator: maw5506@ultb
Keywords: Dvorak, KCHR, Cmd-Opt-Space
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:52:50 GMT

I commonly use a Dvorak KCHR layout on my Mac running system 7.1.  Inside Mac
documents a really neat feature of switching KCHR layouts every time you hit
Cmd-Opt-Space.  This is great if other people wish to use my machine.

	Unfortunately it is not so great if I want to zoom-out in Adobe
Illustrator which just so happens to use...you guessed it...Cmd-Opt-Space.

	Does some kind soul out there know how to modify the system to ignore,
or use a different key combination, for the command.  I am familliar with 
ResEdit, and any help would be appreciated.

	Thanks,

        - Miles Weissman
        maw5506@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
        Senior Printing and Applied Computer Science
        Rochester Institute of Technology

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.system:14264 comp.sys.mac.apps:17462
From: craigw@fnal.fnal.gov (Craig Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Looking for special apps
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:06:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: na
Organization: Fermilab - Batavia, IL
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnpm02.fnal.gov

I'm looking for two applications, and I need to know if something for the
Mac with these approximate functions exist. In the end what I need to do is
be able to have a Mac automatically switched from Localtalk to Ethertalk
connection and then back B4 the next morning. People *will* forget to do it
themselves therefore is must be auto. Why? Network backups over ethernet.
Management refuses to put our fileserver on enthernet for security reasons
because it contains the software, and localtalk backups are slow as hell.

I was looking to do it this way:

#1) Mac cron to execute a script at specified time (does this exist?)

#2) A mac program that can write a script to interact with windows. ie a
script    	that can select control pannels/network, select ethernet, and
then close. Of course accouting and being able to "okay" all warnings
within.
I've heard a name "Automac" What does this program do?

Regardless if apps are commercial or pd, as long as they're reliable.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman)
Subject: Re: Performas and 7.1
Keywords: necessary?
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:11:10 GMT

wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu (ray wilmott) writes:


>Quick question : will System 7.0.1 work on a Performa 600, or
>do you *need* to use 7.1 with it?
 
    I believe that for the IIvx (a P600 with cache and an FPU, after all),
you need 7.1 to recognize the System Enabler 001. Time to live
dangerously, I guess.
						Joe Gurman
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Performas and 7.1
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: necessary?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 02:56:07 GMT

In article <Nov.23.17.43.54.1992.3059@remus.rutgers.edu> wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu (ray wilmott) writes:
>
>Quick question : will System 7.0.1 work on a Performa 600, or
>do you *need* to use 7.1 with it?
>
>
>
>		Someone fearful of System upgrade bugs,
>
>							Ray

I'm not sure, but since the Performa 200 is a renamed Classic II, and the
Performa 400 is a renamed LC II, then I would assume that 7.0.1 would work
on them. The Performa 600 is a modified IIvx (or vice versa?) and
requires 7.1.

I haven't checked on this; I'd rather chew my own legs off before buying a
Performa (as opposed to one of the "real" Macs... ;) )

Jay (=
From: stevec@apple.com (Steve Christensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: DiskCopy 4.2: problem with 1.4-meg images (Q)
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:41:43 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

Hank Roberts, hank@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>The 1.4 meg images I have (that are rejected by diskcopy as requiring
>too much memory, although I've got and assigned 5 megs to the program
>and it does say it has that much free space)  also shows the same
>filetype.  Any chance it should be different for these larger images?

The filetype is the same for all images, even the 1.4 meg images.  If
DiskCopy is giving you an "out of memory" message when its partition
is set to 5 meg, the most likely cause is that the file is corrupted
(that's off the top of my head--I haven't looked at the sources
recently...).

steve
From: crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu (Chris Kunselman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Bitmapping fonts 6.0.8 & 7.0.1
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:39:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Hi,

I'm having trouble printing from system 6.0.8 machines on my network.  We
have a LaserJet IIIsi printer with postscript.  For some reason the 6.0.8
machines don't substitute the fonts like NewYork, and Geneva.  They should
be substituted with Times and Helvetica respectively.

The problem only exists on 6.0.8 machines.  When printing from a System 7
machine the fonts print perfectly.  

Any suggestions?


Thank you,

Christopher R. Kunselman
crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: eva@techunix.technion.ac.il (Hava Landerer)
Subject: Query comments in postscript
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:59:17 GMT

I need a good book about postscript's query comments. can anybody recommend
a reference? please reply bu email.
                                thanks
                                     eva@techunix.technion.ac.il


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mctague@sju.edu (Brendan McTague)
Subject: Re: Minimum requirements for QuikTime???
Organization: St. Joseph's University - Philadelphia, PA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 05:25:25 GMT

<U59985@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>There are numerous ftp sites with Quicktime movies, but I don't know any of the
>addresses at this moment.

Try 128.171.44.7 : /mirrors/info-mac/art/qt

or tryy the original at sumex, the uhawaii.edu one, above, has more however.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: willson@seas.gwu.edu (Stephen R. Willson)
Subject: Memory Problems (More Information)
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:49:41 GMT

Apparently I did not provide all of the information that I needed to
provide.  Yes, within 99% assurance, the hard drive driver is virtual memory
compatiable.  That is unless I'm confussing drives.  Anyways, the virtual
memory on this drive has worked for fifteen months without any problems I
can remember.  It is just now that I am seeing this problem.  So, while
I'll try installing the updated driver, I don't think this is the problem.

Another suggestion that I received was that the SE/30's needed mode-32
installed for virtual memory to work.  Again, I don't think this is the
problem since I have thirty or so SE/30's at work which are running
virtual memory without mode-32.

I still appreciate the replies.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mason@cis.umassd.edu (Mason L. Bliss)
Subject: Strange, unearthly sounds --> my Mac...
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:41:31 GMT

Several months ago, I was working on my Mac, and listening to the radio. (Yes!
Both at the same time!) Anyway... The radio station went off the air, and,
lo and behold, I could hear my Mac! Depending on what the CPU was executing,
the tone produced by my speakers changed... Different programs had their own
distinctive noises... It was cool!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mazen Mokhtar)
Subject: 24-bit color on an LC II
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:28:42 GMT

  I just bought a Performa 400, aka LC II. The sales rep told me that there is
no way to get 24-bit color on the P400. Is that correct?

  In case there is a way to get it, what hardware do I need? Do I need VRAM?

  I have enhanced Apple 14" Monitor.


Thanks,

Mazen Mokhtar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: willcox@urbana.mcd.mot.com (David A Willcox)
Subject: 7.0 vs. 7.0.1 on MacII
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:43:01 GMT

I have an "old" MacII, currently running System 6.0.8, and I'd like to
upgrade to System 7.  My problem: an 800k-only floppy.  System 7.0
is available on 800k floppies, 7.0.1 is not.  (Then, of course, there
is also 7.1, also no 800k option.)

My question: Are there signficant problems in 7.0 that have been fixed
in 7.0.1, meaning that it would be a bad idea to use 7.0?

If 7.0 is a bad idea, does anyone have a suggestion for how to get
7.0.1 onto the internal disk of the MacII?  I know of two possibilities:

(1) Pay the $500+ to upgrade the floppy.  That gives me a second
    floppy, but costs a bit of change for something I wouldn't use much.

(2) Buy an external drive and connect it to another machine to do the
    installation.  At least this gives me more room to grow!

Any other ideas?

David A. Willcox		Motorola MCG, Urbana, IL
From: u2087546@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (The Jester)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Need System 6 Driver for 8.24GC
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:24:48 +1100
Organization: Comedy Company

Does anyone have the system 6 driver for the 8.24GC video card. I've got the
7.0.1 version, but I'd like to be able to run the card in accelerated mode with
system 6. The 7.0.1 driver will only work with system 7.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Steve
From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Why does Quicktime 1.5 just crash on my IIci with 7.0.1*?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 11:49:24 -0700
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
NNTP-Posting-Host: anthrax-fddi.solbourne.com

While reading article <1992Nov19.175410.9900@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, I noticed that
summeral@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SUMMERALL  ELMINA LANIER) said the following:
>I tried to run movie player with no other inits but QTime, and it just crashes.
>
>Does 1.5 require 7.1?  If so, where can I ftp for QTime 1.0 (or whatever latest
>version works with 7.0?  I am using the 1.5 off of the disk image found on both
>sumex and apple.com.

Many people have found that if you install QT 1.5 using "MountImage" on the
image file it will cause the Mac in question to crash; installing from a floppy
created from the image file with DiskCopy seems to prevent problems...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com (Paul E. Jacoby)
Subject: Denon CD-ROM driver
Organization: 3M Company
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21:33:22 GMT

We have a Denon CD-ROM drive for the IBM PC.  The docs mention that it
will run with a Macintosh quite easily.  However, we don't seem to have
the driver software for the drive--just the PC stuff.

Before I call the company, is there any chance that an FTP site exists
where I could pick up the driver?

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From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Why does Quicktime 1.5 just crash on my IIci with 7.0.1*?
Date: 21 Nov 92 02:07:58 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <hook.722309307@mcl> hook@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jim"macman"Goldstein) writes:
>
>	To answer some of your questions...Yes, QuickTime 1.5 requires Sys 7.1.
>I at this time do not know where you can ftp QT v.1.0....sorry. The reason the

That's very odd -- I'm using QuickTime 1.5 under 7.0.1 without any
difficulty.

-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: pchang@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (The Weasel)
Subject: Problem Installing 7.1
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: na
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:16:57 GMT

Hi There,

A friend of mine is installing system 7.1, and is having a weird 
problem. The installer says everything is OK, but when he tries
to restart the computer it says that it cannot create a DeskTop
Folder because the disk is locked. 

His hard drive is not locked, as farnd there does not seem to be
anything else that should be causing this. The machine is a stock
se/30, and has 5 megs, if that makes any difference.

Any ideas? Anyone?

Either let me know, or send mail to cummer@star.stanford.edu.

Thanks in advance.

Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: b78261@venus.cap.mmc.com (Kevin Brislin)
Subject: The NEW Namer
Organization: Martin Marietta
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:37:00 GMT

We just recently tried to rename a LaserWriter IINT on our net using an
older version of The Namer (2.1) under System 7.0.1. Needless to say, it
is not working (can't find the Extensions folder.) Is there a new version
of The Namer that I've missed somewhere? And where can I get it quickly??

Please e-mail all responses.
Thanks.
Kevin Brislin
b78261@venus.cap.mmc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bbbehr@sunspot.noao.edu (Bradford B. Behr)
Subject: Re: Appearing Files???
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:49:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.231449.26324@ousrvr.oulu.fi> jma@phoenix.oulu.fi (Jacob Matthan) writes:
>On Tuesday 11th of November at 23.56 when the PowerBook 170 was on
>but unattended, a file has appeared within a folder. I only disovered it
>three days later after I had given my PowerBook to the Apple
>Dealer to change my 40 MB Hard Drive to a 120 MB Hard Drive.
>The Apple dealer transferred all my data from the smaller hard drive
>to the larger one. I have not checked whether the file is on the old
>drive but I guess it must be.
>Only my wife and I live at home. No one else has access to this computer. My
>modem works but there is no remote access facility to the PowerBook. My
>wife does not know how to handle the computer so she can be ruled out as
>having created the file. I certainly did not create this file.

Three possibilities that occur to me, in order of increasing
likelihood:

1) Your PowerBook was visited by aliens.

2) There is a new virus afoot which creates empty files with
'shocking' names.

3) Your dealer, for unknown reasons (maybe just as a test), created
this file during installation of your new HD, and forgot to delete it,
or maybe did hide or delete it and then freak media errors reinstated
the file.

Can't wait to find out what the filename was...

-- Brad


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From: huq@andromeda.rutgers.edu (andromeda.rutgers.edu!habib    ttyp5   Nov 22 17:25)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Why does Quicktime 1.5 just crash on my IIci with 7.0.1*?
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:59:46 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

n article <hook.722309307@mcl> hook@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jim"macman"Goldstein) writes:
>
>       To answer some of your questions...Yes, QuickTime 1.5 requires Sys 7.1.
>I at this time do not know where you can ftp QT v.1.0....sorry. The reason the

I'm using Qt 1.5 in my Mac IIci with 7.0.1* system and its running fine so far.

I believe the readme file which comes with Qt 1.5 image explains how to install
QT 1.5 in System 7.1 . It does not say anything about system 7.0.1. 
System requirement mentioned in the same file is - Macintosh with 68020,68030 or68040 CPU and at least 4 MB of RAM is needed for this QT version.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: Killing Cmd-Opt-Space in Sys 7.x
Reply-To: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Organization: Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:44:30 GMT

M.A. Weissman (maw5506@ultb.isc.rit.edu) wrote:
: I commonly use a Dvorak KCHR layout on my Mac running system 7.1.  Inside Mac
: documents a really neat feature of switching KCHR layouts every time you hit
: Cmd-Opt-Space.  This is great if other people wish to use my machine.
: 
: 	Unfortunately it is not so great if I want to zoom-out in Adobe
: Illustrator which just so happens to use...you guessed it...Cmd-Opt-Space.
: 
: 	Does some kind soul out there know how to modify the system to ignore,
: or use a different key combination, for the command.  I am familliar with 
: ResEdit, and any help would be appreciated.

Why not yell at Adobe for using that key sequence? It's their fault if they
use reserved key combinations.

/Mats
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: heyes@dadev.cebaf.gov (Graham Heyes)
Subject: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:18:52 GMT

A friend of mine asked me to post this since I was telling him 
how great the mac newsgroups are... he was getting a little fed 
up with "out of memory" errors when using system 7.0 on an SE
so he tried to use Virtual memory. Of course he couldn't since
the SE hasn't got any MMU just a 68000. "What you need is an 030
based accelerator." says I. 

	Well there was one going cheap in the back of Mac week
so he took the plunge. He still can't use virtual memory???
My guess is that he needs some kind of INIT to use an 030's MMU
properly. I don't know off hand what the accelerator is but is
there a generic INIT which tweaks the system so that a "compact"
mac can use the 68030's MMU and finally get VM working.

	E-mail any replies

	thanks
			Graham Heyes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: st890123@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Joe Dropkin)
Subject: 6.0.8L
Reply-To: st890123@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:00:20 GMT

Where can I get this?  I want to start up the new Macs, but I don't want
System 7... I know that sys 6.0.8L can do it... but where do I get it?

Please respond by private e-mail.. I will summarize.

Joe Dropkin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Apple ph number
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:32:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>Does anyone have that 7.1 upgrade phone number..
>And how recent did you have to purchase 7.0???
>thanks in advance.

Pete:

  Try 1-800-795-1000.

             -- Nick


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