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From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Prediction of the Republican National Convention
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:16:14 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <1992Aug17.170035.19867@spdcc.com> <26026@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM>
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Ron Buckmire writes:
>>This perception was reinforced by Pat Buchanan's comment that we need to
>>take the country back.
>>Back from whom?
>
>Clinton already answered this question. The answer is "Them. Them the Blacks.
>Them the Jews. Them the Gays."
>
>Then he continued.."There is no them. There is only Us."

And it was this one statement that immediately endeared him
to me.  We may disagree on details, but Bill Clinton has the
right BASIC IDEA -- to quote Depeche Mode, "People Are People."
 
() Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art.
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Powell's Bookstore
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:04:26 GMT

thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

> emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus) writes:
> 
> >roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips) writes:
> >>"Never eat anything bigger than your head."
> 
> >Another Miss Piggy fan!
> 
> Has anyone else seen that book of Muppet versions of classic artworks?
> I had a copy of it when I was younger. The text was *fabulous*!
> 

It was called (I believe) "Miss Piggy's guide to life", I have a copy I keepo
on the shelf for when ever I get down- it ALWAYS warms the heart....
(pls check out the muppets news group- its a hoot!)

growf
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From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: Jeans
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<64366@cup.portal.com> <1992Aug21.151439.19989@panix.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:14:16 GMT

On Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:14:39 GMT, ro@panix.com (r l reid) said:

o> Well, I can dig it, but I got a question - how do you avoid that
o> embaressing wet spot after you pee?

o> I *still* think these's a fortune to be made by one of the
o> one of the "personal products" companies by butching up the
o> packaging of mini-pads and coming up with a marketing strategy
o> to sell them to men (the non-penis-challanged) to catch those last
o> few drop of the famous rhyme.

Too late!  Saturday Night Live has already had an ad for this product.
The name was "Peni-pads".

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous

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From: anthropo@carina.unm.edu (Dominick V. Zurlo)
Subject: Re: be kind to small furry animals
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 20:59:03 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <133618@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> wbs@mred.llnl.gov (William B. Schaefer IV) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.083946.8377@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>
>>What's the punchline? I've been a vegetarian since I was 15 because I
>>am sickened by the violence associated with meat...
>
>Violence associated with meat!  What about the violence associated with
>vegetarianism!  I mean isn't harvesting of vegetables actually a form of
>genocide?  Plants have consciousness too!  What about plant rights?!
>
>Green Power!  Green Power!
>
>wbs
>
><sarcasm bit set to 1>
>
Yeah for Green Power!  I used to be a veggi until I read
about all that horrible torture equipment they use on
plants, like combines and tractors and all that.  It
was worse than when I read about Veal!!!!

Flapjack
"Yes, I'm bi - both top and bottom."
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Introduction
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:06:48 GMT
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Originator: glp@merlin


In article <l90g8mINN7au@mizar.usc.edu>, adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
|> Oy.
|> 
|> In article <1992Aug17.144414.9045@fig.citib.com> 
|> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
|> > In article <l8s68sINNg54@mizar.usc.edu>, 
|> > adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
|> > |> In article <1992Aug16.040630.8682@wam.umd.edu> 
|> > |> lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Lovegod) writes:
|> > |> > Hi everybody!  It's been a delightful summer!
|> > |> 
|> > |> How nice for you.
|> >
|> > An undeserved response.  He says he's had a delightful
|> > summer.  You sneer.  Why?
|> 
|> Why not?

Drop the smileys, hon, they're a bit forced.

Why not?  Because this Lovegod person has not proven 
himself to be mean, or cruel, or homophobic, or any
of the other adjectives which could describe someone
who was worthy of derision.

Because some of the people who read here and sometimes
post here are not as flinty and thick-skinned as others,
and may actually need some *support* and *acceptance*,
and may actually be done some harm by being slapped in
the face just for the fun of it.

Because bitterness and blase cruelty are ugly.  

Arne, you're a smart, witty, worldly person.
I don't understand why you find it necessary 
to be so toxic to people who really don't
deserve it.
-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
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From: jns@wam.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Subject: Re: redefining masculinity
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyle, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:58:40 GMT

arne adolphson (adolphso@mizar.usc.edu) *forces*
me to barge in with an aside about his voice:
 
> Why is it that I think that's a bad thing?  For it's clear that 
> somewhere deep down inside I *do* think it's a bad thing.  In fact,
> if there's one thing I could change about myself, I think it would
> be my voice.  ....

Don't you *dare*.

> And I *still* haven't written my piece on camp.

That's okay--I'm still working on smells.

--jns
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Too straight looking to be gay??? (was re: UNGAY GAY)
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:52:44 GMT
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton

bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver) wrote: 
->> I have met many gay men, handsome, masculine, and closeted--and they will
->> probably stay that way forever.  Why?  Because the once-a-year trip to a gay
->> function or gay bar reinforces their fears of being surrounded by nelly,
->> campy gays that are embarassing and fringe radicals.
->
->/That paragraph is unspeakably vile.
->
->Christ, what a weird selection of words.  I would be more concerned if
->I weren't 100% convinced that what I said was true.  I have *met* these
->guys, and they are real people.  Hell, I even dated some of them.

oh, look, girlene: the voice of experience here!  he *must* be telling
the whole truth ...

the "once-a-year" trip is these "handsome, masculine, and closeted"
men's biggest problem.  they are their own worst enemy; nobody else
keeps them in their closet (except, perhaps, for baseball-bat-wielding
homophobes).  if they're so weak as to be frightened by a few men in
skirts (or, worse, "totally revealing leather") then they won't be
missed.

->> ...  You threaten them.  It also disturbs feminine gays
->> that a masc. gay man can move 'with the straight crowd'; you have
->> betrayed the fem. gays by having close straight friends.

this is evidence of real disconnection with the world.  

i can (and do) "move with the straight crowd" daily ... even though my
workstation has a "unleash the queen" sticker.  even straight people
aren't afraid of this; why are your handsome closet-cases so
terrified?

this is hardly threatening to me.  it is kinda sad, but they've made
their bed ... 

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Xref: sparky soc.motss:35572 soc.bi:10960
From: hopkins@turing.ac.uk (Don Hopkins)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
Subject: Re: Some button badge slogans/designs
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:37:15 GMT
	<1992Aug10.123704.49462@ccvax.ucd.ie>
	<1992Aug11.015420.12702@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: The Turing Institute, Ltd.

And if you send a few dollars to the Church of the Tree of Life, you
can always say:

That's "Father Faggot" to you.  

	-Don
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: balistik@big-brother.nevada.edu (Shawn Hicks)
Subject: Re: What *IS* "Heaven", anyway?
Organization: Not yet, but we're working on it...
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:57:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.190109.7138@spdcc.com>, urso@spdcc.com (Stephen Chappell) writes:
>No, no, no... you're all wrong.
> 
>Heaven is the third floor of the Masquerade in Atlanta.  They play jazz
>there.  The second floor is Pergatory (rock), and the first floor is
>Hell (industrial, punk, etc. rock). 
> 
>[] Urso


Nope, sorry... Heaven is a very large Disco in London.  It has
12 stations (places to order alcohol) in three separate bars. It has
a sandwich shop, a gift shop, and the coat check from hell.  Did I
mention that it's underground?  Quite fun, really.  When I was there
I saw leather, latex, spandex, thongs, preppy, etc.... The laser show
is incredible, and the male dancers are very edible. Good music, too.


Shawn, who loves England, adored Heaven, and thought Steve May was
a hugable sweetie.
From: michelle@rlgvax.Reston.ICL.COM (Michelle Elliott)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Question about non-rights laws (OR:9 CO:2)
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:06:02 GMT
Reply-To: michelle@rlgvax.Reston.ICL.COM (Michelle Elliott)
Organization: International Computers Limited, Reston, Virginia, USA

In article <17AUG92.11432529@enh.nist.gov> aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:
>
>I think this may be more recent.  Until a couple of years ago, Virginia
>had a law outlawing the serving of alcohol to LGB people, if I remember
>correctly.  The law was struck down in court.  Until this happened,
>theoretically there were no gay bars in the state.

Yeah, but you should see them springing up now...  At least three new
ones that I know of (bar/restaurants, actually) in northern Virginia.

There has apparently been a women's bar in Richmond for many years, but
I've heard strange stories about it (The owner, a lesbian herself, is
very "down" on public displays of affection, so the place tends to be a
bit uptight.  Or so I've heard.)

Michelle, a reformed bar-hopper
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From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: UNGAY GAY
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:58:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Aug12.175827.8132
Organization: insert anything here

georgere@microsoft.com (George V. Reilly) writes:
>adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>) georgere@microsoft.com (George V. Reilly) writes:
>) > My one question now is: what's HWP?  The phrase turns up
>) > in a lot of the ads.

>Height-Weight Proportionate.  Now I know why there were no ads
>that said "no fats."

	It's a stupid concept since there is no standard of comparison.
So... let's invent one.

	The obvious unit is mass per unit height, or mass per units
cross section (kg/cm or kg/cm^2)...

	Since people aren't cylinders, I suppose we'll have to go with
the first --- although I suppose one could create a fake cylinder
using waist size as a representative circumference and then height...
hmmm...  No I guess not because that is a density sort of thing... although
that might also be a good unit...

	BBC:
	2.04 cm/kg   1.68 g/cm^3

	Waldeaux:
        30.0 cm/kg   0.08 g/cm^3 (est.)

	I guess the "ideal" is something like 2.8 cm/kg and 0.9 g/cm^3


	(Note the volume here isn't a real volume - it's a cylinder
whose circumference is our waist size and whose height is your height.)
(Also for the record I think the idea of an "ideal" is fallacious!)

	Now that we have something we can use objectively (or
is that objectifiably?) the ads might make more sense...


	GWM 29.62, 1.7m 80kg seeks GWM 40+ <1.8 cm/kg or >2 g/cm^3 for
fun, long walks thru the forest, etc... Must be sincere...  :-)

BBC, avoiding image processing
From: sclark@ocf.berkeley.edu (Steven Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Lost in Austin
Date: 20 Aug 1992 16:37:10 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

So my wealthy, guitar-player friend is shrooming in this cave and 
says: "I gotta bring the band here!" and ups and buys us all round-trip
tickets to Austin, TX. Someone once told me Austin was the New San Francisco
of the Southwest (or was that Houston?!). So the other queer in the 
group and I break off to do some cruising while everyone else is listening
to a band with nothing but guitars (anathema for a keyboardist like
me!). Austin is the self-proclaimed 'Live Music Capitol of the World'. 
'Country-Rock-Blues-Guitar-Band Capitol of the World' would be more
accurate. All the clubs are on 6th street, the Texan Bourbon Street.
	So we're wandering around, realizing this is *not* where all the gay people hang out, and I spot this gorgeous twinkie. He's pretty butch but you just
can't tell with these country-boys. He's smiling, gazing longingly, and 
grabbing himself. I smile back. Then he walks up to my face and aggressively
blurts out: "Do I know you?!" No. "Do you have something to say to me?!"
No. As his freinds mercifully pull him away, I realize I almost got bashed.
This has never happened to me and I'm shaking like a leaf. 
	Later on, all of us (mostly straights in the party) almost get beaten with baseball bats for no good reason. Not gay-bashing, just random,
testosterone-and-alcohol-induced idiocy. Later still, we're back at the
hotel, and a guy in the lobby licks his lips at me and I've learned enough
by now to just look away. Then he says something loud about "FAGGOTS" to his
companion. We locked ourselves in our room.
	I'm home now, and last night someone called me and said he got my number
from someone I met in a bar and he wanted to meet me. 
I've never given my number to anyone in a bar. He was obviously
disguising his voice and I heard giggling in the background.
Who knows my name, phone number, and sexual preference that would do
something like that? What would have happened if I fell for it?
	I feel violated. Hunted. Unsafe in my own home. I feel like crawling
into the closet, running away. I feel like fighting back but too weak
and frightened and I don't know how. 
	And my shrink is on vacation this week. 


Steven
   
ATZ
From: mikel@dosbears.UUCP (Mike Lipsie)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Republican Nat'l Convention Speakers
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:23:05 GMT
Reply-To: dosbears!mikel@pyramid.com
Organization: DOS Bears

In article <1992Aug11.074149.8436@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
>In article <165qomINNgeq@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> his@the-temple.East.Sun.COM writes:
>>Bill Weld, afforementioned Gov of Mass maybe planning to have some fun at
>>the convention.  He has been given 5 minutes (yes, only 5!) to speak on law
>>and order (crime).  He appears to be being punished for his liberal social
>>views.  He recently said that it seems to make more sense to him to talk about
>>what makes him different in the Rep party rather than what makes him the same.
>>Might be an interesting 5 minutes!
>
>It will be interesting to hear someone at the republican convention
>who really supports gay rights when Clinton could barely get the
>word out of his mouth.

I find it interesting that you feel comfortable comparing "someone"
(who happens to be a Governor of a *very* liberal state -- remember 
which was the only state to vote for McGovern) with the Democratic
nominee for President.  I would think that intelligence would
suggest that you compare the two people running for President.

--
Mike Lipsie                            584 Castro #614, San Francisco, CA 94114
dosbears!mikel@pyramid.com
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From: bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why Benson Hedges #2 gay cigarette?
Summary: B&H
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:06:35 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <Aug.14.14.52.08.1992.26250@math.rutgers.edu>, bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez) writes:
> A few months later, when one of my friends got a job at a local
> convenience store, he told me that a lot of guys
> came in asking for the H&B DUL's. 

Of course, I meant B&H DUL's - Benson and Hedges Deluxe Ultra Lights.

________________________________________________________
 Bil Gonzalez
 bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu
 
 " `And I wonder will I live with any lover,
  or spend my life alone?'

 Ain't self-pity grand?"

 			
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Just please shoot me : )
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 12:31:47 GMT


In article <1992Aug13.120043.27426@news.Hawaii.Edu>
johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan) writes:

>In article <1992Aug11.170458.28120@tandon.com>
>tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett) writes:

>>Just please shoot me if I should ever have to move to these
>>'forsaken places, but what with the economy... well, you have
>>to do what you have to do:

>>1) Boise, Idaho (HP's RISC printer controller house)
>>2) (Oh) Rochester, Minnesota (IBM's AS/400 design house)
>>3) Burlington, Vermont (another IBM RISC house)

>Never been to Boise or Rochester, but Burlington ain't too bad.  Kind
>of a miniature Madison, Wisconsin.  You are 2 hours from Montreal and
>3 hours from Boston by car.  (Montreal has a fantastic gay club
>scene.)  

Urk, a miniature Madison, what an image!

I've been to Boise.  Don't go there.

>There is a gay bar in Burlington (Pearl's), and three colleges
>(including UVM), which make it into a fairly liberal college town.
>Bernie Sanders used to be mayor there.  Vermont has a gay-rights law.

>Of course the weather is horrible 9 months out of the year, but the
>skiing is pretty good.

The weather is horrible only 5 months a year in Rochester,
MN.  I've never been there, but it's about three hours from
Madison, and about two hours from Minneapolis/St. Paul.
It's also not too far from Iowa City, which is another quite
nice college town.

-- 
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From: amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: in the deanery
Summary: there are TWO...no THREE...
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:15:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Aug14.181520.11992
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: very little at the moment

recent e-mail suggests that confusion has been sown by the appearance
of several postings in which my name is linked to someone named dean.
there are TWO, count them TWO, distinct dean-tokens here:

dean-sub-1, the old original dean, my lover of summer 1987 and
  dear friend, the fabulous mud-wrestler, dog-lover, and notorious
  triathlete.  the dean who knows no shame.  over the years you have 
  heard a lot about dino (as he is known in italophone switzerland 
  and sometimes elsewhere).  he is the ph.dean (the dot is silent: 
  pee-aitch-dean) and the gay one.  dean allemang, dean@idsia.uu.ch.

dean-sub-2, my new e-friend dean, whose posting i am following up
  on here.  you haven't heard anything about him here from me.
  he is the m.dean (again, the dot is silent: em-dean) and, as
  you can see from his posting, the bisexual one.  dean blakeley, 
  dblakele@acpub.duke.edu.

jake coughlin wrote me to ask if m.dean was THE dean, to which
the answer is, of course, no, THE dean being

dean-sub-3, my long-time collaborator, who is the
  dean (of graduate studies at uc santa cruz).  you occasionally
  hear a little bit about him here from me.  he is the straight
  (but gay-resonant) one.  geoff pullum, pullum@cats.ucsc.edu.

dino has visited the dean in santa cruz.  now we have only to get 
dino and m.dean together...  mark your programs, kids; this might 
be a long game, and it will be important to keep the players apart.

arnold (the swiss, not the chinese, arnold)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Introduction
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 11:09:58 GMT


In article <15802@star.cs.vu.nl> fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
writes:

>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>:As an aside, it would not have occurred to me to put Elf on
>:the "about-20" crest of the wave; he's been around much
>:longer than Donald, John, Nelson or Trey, in my impression.

>Jezus C, what does it take to get mentioned here? I'm only two years
>older than John! Do I have to make my name even shorter?

Honey, it's hell being over the hill.  Thought you'd like
to know.

And I'm a staunch partisan of your using your full name,
which I think is gorgeous.

-- 
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From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: Rob Bernardo
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 16 Aug 92 14:47:17 GMT

In <92228.194237SECBH@CUNYVM.BITNET> <SECBH@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

>It seems a bit strange to me to feel so saddened when I wasn't
>personally acquainted with him, but I guess that is an indication of
>how "real" he seemed even on the net.  I think his friends were quite
>fortunate to have been his friends.

Yes.  I've never met him, nor even exchanged email with him.  Yet, he
was in my select file since I always enjoyed reading his posts.  Sigh.
I'm not quite ready to remove him from that file...

--Cindy


--

*  I would rather that a bigot thought I was a lesbian than that a
*  lesbian thought I was a bigot.        -- Tovah Hollander
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Discipl(in)e
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:03:01 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Aug12.204552.10557@microsoft.com>
georgere@microsoft.com (George V.  Reilly) writes:

>Dammit, I want to be punished only by Grandmama KKruella herself.
>No substitutes will do.

It is *TERRIBLY* *WICKED* to refer to Deputy GKK as a
"substitute."  We are not a substitute; we are the Deputy.

>Oops, I've defied Grandmama and her deputy.  That deservers
>punishment---from both of them.  I'm just asking for it, amn't I.

Grandmama and I are too busy to discuss this beforehand, but
I'll expect you to report here for your initial workover.
If GKK feels you need further discipline (and I have a
strong suspicion she will), she will summon you.

-- 
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