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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: ATTN: COLORADO BONE FANS
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:58:23 GMT

Jeff Smith, the creator of BONE (which I've heard is excelent) will be
appearing In the Denver/Boulder area this weekend.

On Sat. the 3rd: MILE HIGH COMICS		MILE HIGH COMICS
		 760 S.Colorado BLVD.		1st & Wadsworth
		 DENVER				LAKEWOOD
		691-2212			238-8125
		3:00-4:00 pm			5:00-6:00 pm

On SUn. the 4th: TIME WARP
		1711 Pearl St.
		Boulder
		433-4500
		12-1:00 pm

should be neat.

----SCAVENGER

-- 
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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: $$ Comic Book Creators $$
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:28:58 GMT

For every X-Men #1, there's 300,000 duds like the West Coast
Avengers and whatever Roy Thomas does.

They probably loose more than they take in on these #1s.

#1s are becoming pretty commonplace now... as millions upon millions
of copies are sold and bought by short-term speculators, the market
gets flooded and the price goes down.

I saw X-Force #1 going at cover price not too long after it came out.
I see the full X-Men set at like $10, new, not much of a sum, frm
dealers desperate to unload them.

I sense an implosion once "investors" figure out they're stuck 
trying to unload 10 copies of X-Force #1 to dealers and other collectors
who are already well stocked with them.

Scott

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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: comic books on microfiche
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 05:13:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.180739.27009@midway.uchicago.edu> lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>The selection is what's appealing to me, they'll never reprint all of
>these, there just isn't the demand.  One thing that might be worth a

Personally, I'm waiting for these to come out on CD-ROM. Combine with
HDTV and a few open aged comics for the decaying paper smell for ambiance
and I could live without the originals.

"August 25 --Fundamentalist religious groups announce the beginning of a
massive nationwide publicity buildup for an obscure and mostly boring
film, The Last Temptation of Christ."  --Dave Barry's 1988 Year in Review
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 02:59:35 GMT

sherman@deimos.math.ucla.edu (William Sherman):
>>But is Desire *allowed* to kill?  It *is* trespassing.)
>
>Um, I don't know about that.  I mean, Dream was prepared to kill the
>vortex, and that wasn't trespassing. 

Critical passage (from Gilbert, in "Dolls House", about Vortices):

"He terminates their physical existence, little bird.  To protect
the Dreaming.  It's the only time he is empowered to take human
life, you see...  It's one of the Rules."

If it *is* Desire trying to kill Destruction's friends, s/he's almost
certainly breaking the Rules.  In fact, it's not even obvious that
Destruction is allowed to kill.  (And if there is a prohibition, it
would be a poor sophistry to forbid killing but allow dropping a
wall or blowing up a building where the target just happens to be.)

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Gaiman/Thompson Signing Debriefing
Organization: Little Squids of the Poor
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:50:36 GMT

Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of big news to report. I ended up helping
out with things so I didn't get to hang around and pick up interesting 
items that I could scurry over here and post about. In fact, as I was 
about the hundredth person to make it up to the table, I didn't even 
have the heart to ask about the Neil Gaiman-Iggy Pop connection. (Has
anyone ever seen them together?)

Anyway, here's what I did find out:

- A lot of these postings are passed along and Neil does read them. (Even the
  "Gaiman has lost it!" threads.) Thank you, Tanaqui.  

- The honey jar that floated by was indeed Pooh inspired. Jill said that 
  much of issue 42 artwork was done along the style of the Pooh illustrations.
  
- Neil brought along photocopies of issue #50 and The High Cost of Living #1. 
  Both looked good. Despite my earlier fears, Death didn't end up looking
  too much like Paula Abdul. (sp? The one in the Diet Coke commercial.)

- Jill has done a very nice color picture of the junior Endless. That is,
  all seven Endless done as Dream and Death were drawn in issue 40. The 
  missing Endless is shown painting a heart on Destiny's book. Maybe
  we've been wrong. Perhaps the missing brother is really Decoration. 
  Anyway, color copies were sold with proceeds going to the Comic Defense
  Fund. 

- Sounds like _Good Omens_ is no longer the property of Miracle Pictures. 
  ("If it gets made, it'll be a Miracle!") A certain Occidental ex-Minnesotan
  is said to be negotiating for the rights to the book.

- As has been mentioned before, the current Spawn plans are for Moore
  to do #8, Gaiman #9, Sim #10 and maybe Miller #11.

- Sorry, I didn't get a chance to ask about Sweeney Todd, continuity in 
  Hell, whether Queen would be played during the roadtrip, the release
  of Signal to Noise, the current end point to Sandman, what the trium-
  virate plan to do with McFarlane's characters, why the weather has been
  so dark and cloudy since a certain personage has moved into the area,
  whether anymore of the words on #41 were titles or quotes, what was 
  happening with Vertical ("So upright, it's Vertical!") Comics, whether
  any of the Endless would ever been seen wearing a Detroit Tigers cap, 
  or any of a bunch of other things I meant to get around to. I did learn
  about starlings, (starlings?) but perhaps I'll save this for another time.
--
     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
 "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Hellblazer #59
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 06:05:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

frost@netcom.com (John Frost):
>I was a bit disapointed to find mention of the demon etrigan in HB. (unless
>I miss my mark this is the same demon etrigan that has his own series, 
>appears with that bat fellow, and has been known to hang out with some 
>nasty people. correct? 

It was not always thus.  The opening storyline of The Demon (v.2) took
place in Hell, and portrayed Etrigan's attempt to take the throne of Hell,
through a combination of infernal politics and mayhem.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
From: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: FAQ: subscription services, mail order?
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:31:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvCrG3.AFB
Reply-To: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Originator: gamg6900@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

This is undoubtedly a FAQ, so any angry people should send me the FAQL.

What are the best comic subscription services? The things I want are:
1) Don't have to order many months in advance
2) Books always arrive in pristine condition
3) No minimum orders
4) Deep discounts
5) Reasonable shipping charges
6) No membership fees or other hidden charges

What are some reputable mail order places with vast selections of cheap
back issues?

					Thanks

					Greg Martin
					g-martin1@uiuc.edu
From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: What's up with !mage??
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:11:18 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <mumble> John Hamilton Slye <jsbr+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>    Needless to say we lost a lot of respect for McFarlane and Malibu
>comics. Most retailers give Malibu 6 months at the rate they ae going. I
>hope it's less so I can see McFarlane and Liefield crawl back to Marvel
>and have Marvel laugh at them!

Do you mean Malibu or Image?  There is a difference.  Malibu is
primarily a distributor, though I understand that they are coming out
with their own line of comics in a few months.

-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /|\\|
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From: annak@microsoft.com (Anna Korra'ti)
Subject: Re: Elfquest: Hidden Years #3 - SPOILERS!
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:17:08 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <h+!pqah.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>Elfquest fans will appreciate this issue for some wonderful
>artwork, though probably not for the story.  
     I highly approve of the new art style in the last two issues of the
Hidden Years - the coloration has stabilized (remember the panels where
Strongbow had purple hair in HY #1? :-) ), and the softer pencils and inkings
give, to me, a more magical feel to the tales.

Spoiler alert, for folks what haven't read Hidden Years #3 yet:

>The story itself is unimpressive:  Tyleet finds and adopts
>a mutant.  (We're never told what his powers are, but physical
>stigmata include extra fingers and toes, cropped ears and
>impaired hearing, anomalous size -- probably the result of a
>hormonal imbalance -- and distorted coloration.)  She tries
>to raise the mutant as a wolfrider, but his genetic defects
>make this impossible, and he ends up dying.
     Um, on the off-chance that I'm missing something here: is the above-quoted
paragraph serious or sarcastic? The tale >I< read was about an abandoned
human cub, not a mutant.

>Do the wolfriders really eat their babies' umbilical cords?
>How about the afterbirth?
     No way of knowing either way; I don't think we have this documented
anywhere in _Blood of Ten Chiefs_, though I could be wrong.

>There's an ad to the effect that the tape "A Wolfrider's
>Reflections" will be rereleased in a couple of months.  Some
>of the songs on this tape are so-so, but several are superb --
>and more than worth the cost of the tape.
     YES! Or the CD; either way, the songs are supposed to be remastered. One
wonders whether there will be new art on the jacket.

>And there's an Elfquest/Harbinger crossover coming:  Someone
>needs to tell the Pinis that there's a limit to brand loyalty!
     <chuckle>
     One wonders if this crossover is to be taken as canon.

                        Shade and sweet water,
                           - Sh'k'anna.

-- 
annak@microsoft.com ** Angela Sh'k'anna Korra'ti
No opinion expressed above originates from Microsoft Corporation.
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Subject: Grendel -- how many issues?
From: alecb@gacvx1.gac.edu
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:44:25 -0600
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota
Nntp-Posting-User: alecb

	I was just wondering if someone could help me figure out how many
issues of Grendel were originally published by Comico.  I know of the B&W 3
issues, and have 1-40, but Overstreet lists issues 41-43.  I haven't been able
to find them anywhere and was wondering if they were published or did they fall
when Comico went bankrupt.  Any help would be appreciated.

						Alec
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: NHS #$ (color)
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:30:04 GMT
Reply-To: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu


	How totally appropriate that #4 also is the $ sign.  Have any of
you NHS fans even paid attention to the colorized comics?  Ich, is all I have
to say.  They even have the gall to publish them out of order (sort of.  
NHS #3 1/2 was converted into #4 for color)!!  Get a life, folks.
	Not to mention, but when was the last normal series NHS released?
Haven't, I dunno, ALL the color ones come out since Giant monsters 2?  
I realize Ben Dunn gets his apartment sacked annually, but we've heard no
such news lately... 
	Ya got no excuse.  We want our comics.

		Until Dogwars 2000 -- Doggie vs. Dog Supreme,
			King Rat signing off!!!

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From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Subject: Re: Hero Alliance
Organization: Brandeis University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:48:09 GMT

Silly question--if they've come up with an indestructible material for
superhero costumes, why do most of the costumes show so much skin?
The fabric won't protect well if it isn't covering most of the body...
Oh, never mind--I forgot this was Innovation comics...

And I did notice that one of the women still will have a shreddable
costume--I wondered where the readers would come from if the clothes
stayed whole.

PS--Who in their right minds does aerobics in SPIKE HEELS??
Innovation, again...
You know, this book does have good female characters and could
probably draw a large audience of women if it weren't for all the
cheesecake...
-- 
--------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu<---------------
"I want to be Robin to Bush's Batman."  Dan Quayle
Quick!  Notify DC.  I think it's time for another 900 number poll.
"We are enjoying a sluggish economy & not enjoying it very much."  --Bush
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From: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp)
Subject: Re: Australian comic prices
Reply-To: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:57:51 GMT

In article <swindley.718004716@s1.elec.uq.oz.au> swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley) writes:

:   In the top left hand corner (where all good price
: tags are placed) Marvel puts a little box saying
: 
: ' US    $1.25     (Can $2.50)  '
: 
:                 or whatever
: 
: Now in Australia (which is of course where I live,
: a big high to everyone) that little white box has
: the following
: 
:      '  AUS    $2.30  '
: 
:               or whatever depending on the price
: 
:    The question on everybody's lips  (ok really just
: mine)  is 
:    where was this comic printed??  Do marvel do a 
:        special print run just for Australia ??
:        Or do they think it's a foreign language
:        comic, and print it along side all the ones
:        done in Spanish ???

A lot of the printing information is contained in the blurb at the
bottom of the first page of the comic. I've not seen the sort of
comics you're talking about, and that covers newsagents in Sydney and
Melbourne, so I think you may be looking at locally printed material.
For the purposes of collecting, these would not be worth anywhere near
the value of the "real thing". I buy my comics from direct sales shops
and if you're worried about the value of the comic, then I would
suggest that you do the same.

	- Robi
--
INTERNET: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au     "But Calvin is no kind and loving god!
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Fax     : (+61) (3) 819 5580
From: mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:45:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct6.154511.18194
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

Steven M. Stadnicki" <ss7m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>again.  Who would you *most* like to see do an issue (or issues) of Sandman,
>and on what theme?  (Assuming you could find a theme for said artist)

Keith Giffen: Oops, since Dream isn't supposed to have eyes, maybe not...

Mike Mignola: Anything with wolves.

Adam Hughes: The Dreams of people in a health spa....

Dean Motter: Any story taking place in London or Paris, preferably in 
Modern Times.

Scott McCloud: An issue taking place in a public library.
--
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                  + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
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From: 003695s@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHANE ANDRE SAVOIE)
Subject: re: Simon Bizley Question
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:14:48 GMT


Bizley's currently working on DREDD RULES! by Fleetway(/Quality).

Steph
Sonic BOOOOOOOM
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: MISC: Endless poster on Roseanne 9/29
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:24:49 GMT

In article <92275.092410U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>There also was a poster on Darlene's wall for Peter Canon, Thunderbolt, whose
>legs were visible when she was talking to David about not sleeping with him.
>


WHAT, NO WOLVERINE???!!!!!


                            R ****
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Happy, happy, joy joy take 3
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:05:13 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
>Let's see.  I picked up Bone #1 (Since I may be meeting Jeff Smith tomorrow 
>I figured it'd be a good idea.)  It was fun, not awesome but worthwhile.

I have always thought this was the weakest of the issues... check out
number 2 before making a decision.
-- 
Hire the morally handicapped.
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: New Titans #92
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:40:55 GMT

This isn't bad.  I don't know whether to be embarrassed or relieved.
After the consistently disappointing year of Titans Hunt, this title
needs a run of consistently solid writing to regain its credibility,
and needs more time spent on characterization and less time spent on
pointless fights to reacquaint readers with the characters.  I'm not
back to being a Titans fan yet, but this title is salvageable.

Why?  The plot elements are inane (Dark Donna has acquired a new power
boost and a new costume, and one or the other has driven her mad,
Aqualad has been reintroduced so melodramatically that one can almost
forget how useless his abilities generally are, and personally, I still
haven't figured out why Lord Chaos (TM) wants to conquer the world),
the fights are consistently pointless and inconclusive, and most of
the characters talk like comic book characters ("Even twenty fathoms
of wter can't hide *your* problems, my friends", "Now nothing
can stop me from *conquering this world*", "Nothing will stop me
from taking him back"...).

Why?  Because they're finally spending time on the characters, and not
just on the rather silly plot they're using as a vehicle.  And the
richness of the Teen Titan/New Titan background -- a quarter of a
century of stories, good and bad -- gives these characters a vitality
and a potential that only the sort of sustained effort we saw last year
can squander.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   'T is with our judgements as our watches, none
   Go alike, yet each believes his own
		--Alexander Pope


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From: dml@athena.mit.edu (David M LaMacchia)
Subject: Re: HELP, shops in Washington D.C.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:43:47 GMT

In article <92274.135643CARLOSLI@auvm.american.edu> Carlos Li <CARLOSLI@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>Another World. 1504 Wisconsin Av, NW (Georgetown). Entrance is on P St, actuall
>y. IMHO, this is the best around here. Has a wide selection of comics, TPBs,
>independents.
>Big Planet Comics. 4865 Cordell Av, Bethesda (OK, so it's not actually in DC,
>but close enough: Metro accessible).
>Cosmic Comics. Belmont St, Adams Morgan. This one's new, just opened a few
>weeks ago, they don't even take credit cards :-(

These are all good stores, especially Big Planet.  However, another store 
recently opened (before this summer) that I really like, and it's accessable
from the Rockville Metro stop.

Adventure Comics: 1055 Rockville Pike
                  Rockville, MD 20852

The owners is really cool and they carry a wide range of independants as
well as the other titles (Peter, the owner, is a big Green Hornet fan, too,
although I got him to read Sam & Max....).  Try his store out; the prices
on back issues are pretty good as is the selection, too (and he always keeps
the Cerebus phonebooks well-stocked).

--dave



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From: mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: Re: MISC: Endless poster on Roseanne 9/29
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:40:27 GMT

 lsmith@mYria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>
>Now that the Sandfans have shown they're often willing to buy quality items
>(the hardback version of Season outsold the paperback version) 

Is this true? Does that mean that all of the collectors should run out and
buy the SC because it will be a *gasp* collectors item? ;)


--
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                  + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Female Character Contest
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:54:13 GMT
Reply-To: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu


	OK, now I've invaded yet another comics subgroup.  Jeez, I wish 
I'd paid more attention to those  "RAC is dying!!" messages.  Grumble,
snort,rip.  Anyway, for those of you not yet acquainted with the contest...

	I am running a survey to conclude midnight of October 8, regarding 
your favorite female character out of any comic series/universe/whatever,
be she hero or villan.  Yeah, I'm kinda new here, so if this sort of contest
has sprung up before, forgive me.
	Anyway,  I will eventually count up every nomination and list off
every one sometime around the 9th.  Note:  these dates are slightly revised
for those of you actually following my messages.  
	To nominate a character, simply reply >>through e-mail<< to me with 
your favorite female.  I've read a couple o' rumors regarding nominees
>posted<, but I've never actually >seen< a posted entry.  Mailing me is the 
only way to insure a nomination.  And please, only nominate ONE woman, OK?

By the way, the current leader is Sandman's Death, with Rogue right on her
heels!

			(I like this sig too much to only use it once...)
			Until Kei and Yuri make tin cans outta Cable,
				King Rat signing off!!!

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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Summary: Why not?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:31:55 GMT

Phil Foglio, doing Goldie's birthday party.

(Hey, I could've said Hembeck...)

-- 
Andrew M. Solovay       "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
solovay@netcom.com			--Wilde

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