From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: Les interets collectifs
Date: 4 Sep 92 03:32:43 GMT
Distribution: can
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
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From article <plante.715550056@iros1>, by plante@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Frederic Plante):
> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
> 
>>From article <plante.715459277@iros1>, by plante@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Frederic Plante):
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>>> On ne peut comparer la situation des anglophones du Quebec en ce moment
>>> avec celle du Manitoba il y a cent ans (et meme maintenant).  On a jamais
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>>> enleve le droit aux anglophones d'avoir leurs ecoles au Quebec. 
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>>     Hello?
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>>                                        Excuse me?
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>>            OI!           
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> Ben, jusqu'a nouvel ordre, il existe encore des ecoles anglaises au
> Quebec, et elle ne sont pas illegales.  Est-ce que je me trompe? 
> 

You said:

  "On a jamais enleve le droit aux anglophones d'avoir leurs ecoles
   au Quebec."

which I translate literally:

  "One never took away the right of anglophones to have their schools
   in Quebec."

which I tidy up to mean:

  "The right was never taken away from the anglophones in Quebec to 
   have their own schools."

So I repeat:

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>>     Hello?
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>>                                        Excuse me?
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>>            OI!           
>>                      OVER HERE!
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Now, perhaps another translation might be:

  "The anglophones have never had their right to have their own
   schools taken away from them."

You cannot say that I am not an anglophone in Quebec. What you
can say, technically, is that since I didn't have the right to
"have an English school" when I came here then I couldn't have
had that right taken away.

OK then, say it!


> Comment osez-vous comparer la situation des anglophones du Quebec
> a celle des francophones du Manitoba du siecle dernier (et meme
> d'aujourd'hui, dirais-je)?
> 

I didn't make any such comparison. I consider it totally irrelevant.

Are you too suggesting that anglophone newcomers to Quebec must
pay for the sins of those who passed before?

Those of you who are insulted - sorry! : I have a very good idea
how it feels! >-{

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  ||| Steve Potter:         steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG                     |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||