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From: 129.83.161.10 (H. Chao)
Subject: Re: Improve your English
Organization: MITRE
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:43:57 GMT

In article <BvrFM4.8v7@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, wanz@ucunix.san.uc.edu
(Zhangyong Wan) writes:
> 
> In article <1asug0INNm0l@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu> yfeng@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu (Jeffrey Feng) writes:
> >Recently I spent some time reading some of the stuff in this news group. I'm
> >very disappointed to find that many of our highly educated compatriats cannot
> >spell and write English well. Of course, once in a while a spelling error is
> >nothing to be alarmed about. But obvious grammatical errors are irritable
> >when one reads those paragraphs. I surely expect a lot of people will say
> >that grammar is not important as long as the idea is made clear. However,
> >I believe that good writing skills are necessary in an environment where
> >English is the language of communication. 
> >
> >By the way, there is a great deal of junk in the network.
> 
> 
> English is not our native language. It's no big deal when we have a few errors
> (either grammatical or spelling). Even Americans make some stupid mistakes when they write. But I do agree that we need to improve our English. It's just
> a matter of time and practice. 
> 
> 
Don't blame us for our poor English.  Even the Vice President of U.S. can
not spell potato.  I think everybody agree that we need to improve our
English; however, please change the title to "Improve Our English" instead
of "Improve your English."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: haiyi@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Haiyi Tu)
Subject: Re: Where can I find S1216?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:57:02 GMT

From article <1992Oct9.124012.43706@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, by zhang@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu:
> Where can I find the S1216(or the summary of it)?
> 
> Thank you!
> zhang@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
> 

P

	D
	Can you send me a copy?  y?? 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wang@cobra.ansoft.com (ren wang)
Subject: test
Organization: Ansoft Corporation
Distribution: soc
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:37:04 GMT


this is test
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: 129.83.161.10 (H. Chao)
Subject: Cooking: 9 Cai
Organization: MITRE
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:21:05 GMT


> >Thank you for your contribution. Could any one add more items?
> 
> Sure. My favour is  Liang-Ban 9-cai while my mother-in-law likes Sour-Hot
> 9-cai soup. In Liang-Ban 9-cai, it should be cut very short, while in
> the Sour-Hot 9-cai soup, it is cut inch long - don't boil it too long, keep
> it green, the smell is very good.
> 

Sounds great! could u tell me the detail procedures of these two dishes. 
Thanx.
From: lix@yangtze.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Learn from Lei Feng
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:43:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: bu.98022
Organization: Boston University

In article <BvtD3F.MpH@cs.psu.edu> jyw@phys.psu.edu (Jin-Yuan Wu) writes:
>(deleted)
<	I think we should have a common ground: good-doing is good.

Sure, no problem about that. But dhsy may not agree, traditional models
of good-doing are usually disgusting. If you don't believe, read 24 Xao
and Lie Nyu Zhuan. Actually my feeling when reading Lei Feng's SiJi, was
similar to read Ge Ju Mai Er. James, your term:-)

Well, models themselves may be good, like Ms. Chai Ling and Mr. Li RuiHuan.
But the traditional way to make models is disgusting.
--
From: jchang@cedrick.asc.slb.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Improve your English
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:21:04 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Distribution: usa
Organization: Schlumberger Austin Systems Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: cedrick.asc.slb.com

In article <1asug0INNm0l@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu>, yfeng@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu (Jeffrey Feng) writes:
|> Recently I spent some time reading some of the stuff in this news group. I'm
|> very disappointed to find that many of our highly educated compatriats cannot
|> spell and write English well. Of course, once in a while a spelling error is
|> nothing to be alarmed about. But obvious grammatical errors are irritable
|> when one reads those paragraphs. I surely expect a lot of people will say
|> that grammar is not important as long as the idea is made clear. However,
|> I believe that good writing skills are necessary in an environment where
|> English is the language of communication. 
|> 
|> By the way, there is a great deal of junk in the network.
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Agreed! The above is a typical example.
From: Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Ms. Xiao and Tu Ya
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:50:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: phloem.9210152050.AA22754
Organization: Indiana University
X-Vers: University of Oregon Version dmm-02 30-Oct-90
Posted-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:52 EST


          Lix writes:

             [ I am wining the go-game;  But, Sheng4 gu4 xin1 ran2
              bai4 yi4 xi3. ]

          In my hometown, the saying is "hao3 han4 bu4 ying2 tou2 yi4
          pan2 (A good person always loses the first game)."  So I
          have been intentionally trying to lose :-).  You know what I
          mean -- I could have totally destroyed your territory at the
          bottom, but I let you make an eye :-).  BTW, my mailer
          failed for 3 days.  Why don't you send your last move to me
          and let's see in whose hand the deer dies.
                                                    
             [ I want to exchange myself with xiao1 bin1 the rumor
          distributor. ]

          Good match :-).  BTW, Shannon change wang dan is good too --
          but only if he gets sued and also sentenced to 4 yrs -- in
          the U.S.
                                                                    
             [ Ms. Xiao Renshu ]

          What's your favorate?  In your judgement, which of the
          ancient books is the best?  BTW, I am an expert of tui1 bei4
          tu2.  Have you read that book?
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: Action-9201.appendix
Keywords: the general CSS, those CSS, misunderstood
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:40:06 GMT

In article <2AD21004.22944@news.service.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes:
>I thought that many Chinese people in China did not understand what was 
>cooking here.  But I am wrong!  Whenever I arbitrarily talk with any friend 
>of mine in China, they know who those CSS are, and they know what those CSS 
>are trying to do.

  By just listening to your stories,  your friends surely "know" what's
  going on here (I'm sure they all have a copy of action 9201 letter).
 
>However, the situation is a little bit "confusing" this time: the US government
                                         ^^^^^^^^^
>is quiet on this blood card bill; and the Chinese government is quiet, too,
>on this blood card bill. 

  What should be the otherwise?

>                          The only party who is angry toward this blood card
>bill is the Chinese people such as Shannon Yeh.  The reason for the White
>House to be quiet is so that they cannot see any direct benefit from granting
>this bill; the reason for the Chinese government to be quiet is so that they
>feel "losing-face" if they over-react to this "Chinese-sell-Chinese" case.

  Why should CCP government bother if action 9201 could take care of
  the bill?  After all, it is to the CCP government that CSS are
  being (to be) sold by some people in this case.  So the CCP government
  is the buyer in term of "Chinese-sell-Chinese".
  
>The reason for the Chinese people to be angry is so that they feel the justice
>has been raped by those CSS, and the facts has been twisted by those CSS.
>Regardless this bill will be passed or not, most of the CSS, including those
>CSS, will go home someday.  By then, the Chinese PEOPLE will hate the blood
                             ^^^^^^^
  Why should they wait?

>carders.  If the regular CSS do not distinct themselves from those CSS, they
>will suffer when they return to China someday: who knows you did not work on 
>the blood card in 1992?

  Is a copy of action 9201 letter enough to be the evidence?

>So, if you did not directly support the blood card petition, I strongly 
>recommend you to sign up at "blood-card@netix.com".
                              ^^^^^^^^^^
  A real one to sign up.  Or sign up "blood-card" lotto?

>                                                    If you do not speak out 
>your standing, you may be misunderstood in the future.

  And you may miss the chance of winning the lotto. :-)

>Obviuosly, upon your own discretion.

  Seems no other choices.

>shannon
>-------

-ping

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ac32d54@laplace.eng.wayne.edu
Subject: Scorn Him!
Organization: WSU
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:56:57 GMT

	Fellow netters,

	Are you as fed up as I am with this Yeh person's comments?
	Well, he has his rights to do so, but YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPLY 
TO HIS ARTICLES. It might feel good by letting it out (yi4 tu3 wei2
Kwai?) but you are also giving the attention this pathetic freak 
desperately wanted. 
	Probably the best way to treat his bloated ego is to scorn/
ignor him. So next time you see an article from him, why not go for
the "n" key?
	Meanwhile, I see no needs to stop poking some fun at this
clown's expense, that is the least he can contribute to the net.
	I also call for volunteers to post articles like this 
periodically.

XYZ
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang)
Subject: Re: looking for Miss Lou Yudan / Lou Lilian (coming from Beijing)
Organization: Penn State Department of Mathematics
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:47:24 GMT

In article <lieqiu.719001202@cunews> lieqiu@alfred.carleton.ca (Liebin Qiu) writes:
>
>If you know Miss Lou Yudan (Lou Lilian), a Chinese girl now living in
>California, please tell me her address by email, or tell her my
>information:
>
>Qiu Liebin
>36E - 1411 Morisset Ave.
>Ottawa, Ont., Canada K1Z 8H3
>email: lieqiu@ccs.carleton.ca
>
>Thank you.


If you still have some more messages to look for friends, it would be very
kind of you to post the multi-looking-for message in one article.

Thank you.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: "6.4" bill, blood card
From: <LHGCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 13 Oct 1992 00:57:13 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

My opinion is, why someone just want to accuse beneficiaries of S1216 as Blood

Card Holders in stead of charging the Blood Card Maker? Who should be hold

responsible for the subsequent Green Card Bill s1216? CSS or CG? Personally

I PREFER to sweat out my green card with honest, respectable work TO  to

be handed out by Uncle Sam with pity. Who put us in this pitying situation?

CSS or CG? Why someone, like Shannon Yeh, always charges the majority

of CSS instead of CG? Are we weaker, minor, no harm to anybody, can not

retaliate anyone? It that coward?

Lynn
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: for your sake, Mr. Yeh!
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 21:14:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.142753.8093@ac.dal.ca>, poppy@ac.dal.ca writes:
|> I don't know, Mr. Yeh, why you have been opposing the Protection Bill so much?
|> I know it is safe for most Chinese students who want to go back to China.

It is safe for all CSS to go back to China if they love the Party and do
whatever they are told by the Party.

|> I know most these students who are seeking protection are economically
|> motivated and they just want to stay in U. S. for good living.
|> I do not think China needs them back to home to serve.  CCP does not want
|> these Chinese who no longer love their Party and Country.

Please don't confuse `Country' with `Government'.

I love my Country.
I love my Nation.
But I am not sure about my State.
 
|> The Protection Bill is just an excuse for three parties all seem to be
|> beneficial.
|> 
|> 1. Those Chinese students under the Protection Bill will get their Green Card,
|> which they have dreamed for so long (So-called American Dream when they first
|> landed U. S. A.)
|> 
|> 2. U. S. will get these well-trained and hard-working skill workers (They
|> are not as much spoiled as most americans at least).  They will pay tax
|> once they get jobs.
|> 
|> 3. China will get rid these spoiled kids (they have too much west influnces).

Please don't confuse China with CCP/CG. China needs all her people, including
those `spoiled' kids.

|> 
|> Why you don't think Protection Bill is a good bill for all?  

It may not be good for China.

H.J.
From: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: ******* Test ***********
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:39:35 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame

Just a test in the Newsgroup, which consists of the funniest discussions in all
Newsgroups. Some people love to fight, I think, especially when their opponents cannot see them and they cannot see their opponents. This is a safe battle 
ground, where some prople can hurt each other and no body get hurt. 
BaBaBoooooo!
Fortunately I named this post "Test", so when someone who had read this try to 
teach me a lesson, such as "you are one of the people you just described", they would have to post something like "Re-test", which probably would not be read 
by  anyone. 
BaBaBooooooBooooooo!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: chen@haydn.ee.uec.ac.jp (Chen Jie)
Subject: Re: Bill and Jemmy (not a story------------)
Organization: University of Electro-Communications, Chofu, Tokyo, JAPAN
	<1992Oct11.012218.2418@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:22:34 GMT

>The most important thing for IFCSS to do now is to keep the 
 >in its position and try to prevent any demoncracy or open-door things
 >from happening.  Also try to let the human right in CHina as bad as 
 >possible.  Keep the reformers away from the CCP and help halp the
 >leftists in their position.  Then the green cards can be guarantteed.

Obviously, this is the real purpose of IFCSS.
--
____________________________________________________________________________              
               Jie Chen 
	       ITL ( Information Transmission Laboratory )
               Depart. of Electronics
               Univ.   of Electro-Communications 
               Chofu city, Tokyo 182, Japan
               E-mail: chen@mahler.ee.uec.ac.jp
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------  






Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Chinese movies
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:05:20 GMT

Starting from Oct. 8, there is a Chinese movie week in Chicago in Art
Institute. 

Tingli Pan
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: at which point compromise can be reached
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:12:28 GMT

1. if those blood carders can convince the US legislators to rename that 
   bill by the "special immigration bill for Chinese nationals", and if
   those blood carders can convince the US government to change the content
   of the bill to "any Chinese who feels dangerous to return [to China] can
   apply for this special immigration program [either came be4 04/11/90 or
   after]", I and my 9201 colleagues will immediately terminate our effort;

2. if those blood carders can collectively write a staement in which they
   declare that most of them do not have danger to go home, and that all
   they need is easy green card, then, I and my 9201 colleagues will
   immediately terminate our effort.

3. Here is my statement: I do NOT care how many green cards those blood
   carders have--I am simply not interested in green card itself.  All I
   am concerned is: I do NOT like to see people rape justice.  Today, you
   have the advantage to rape others, how do you feel if peopel rape you 
   later on when they get advantages?  Never dream to terminate our effort
   through other means such as attacking Shannon Yeh personally, separtaing 
   the key 9201 people--these just do NOT work!  Zuo Zhiqi, have you been 
   pulled out from 9201 by blood carders?  Zhang SHuren, have you been pulled 
   out from 9201 by blood carders?  

shannon
-------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xcchen@iastate.edu (Xiaoshan Chen)
Subject: Re: ******* FREE CREDIT CARDS ******* 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:52:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.180853.25414@fcom.cc.utah.edu> jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li) writes:
>	On 9/9/92, the GM (General Motors) Company started issuing a new
>GM MasterCard.  No annual fee.  GM MasterCard also gives you 5% credit 
>to purchase GM cars.  There is a 1-800 phone number to apply for the credit
>card.  If anybody has this phone number, please send it to me:
>
>		JLI@MINES.UTAH.EDU
>
>If you know any other financial institutions who issue VISA/MASTERCARD with
>no annual fees, please let me know. 
>
>	Thanks in advance.
>
>
>JLI@MINES.UTAH.EDU
>
I have got the GM Master Card. The application and the approval took only
a few days. According to USA TODAY, 10/8/1992, GM had issued 1 million
GM cards in less than a month. GM Cards's ad budget is reportedly more than
 $70 million. The Crad has no annual fee and a variable interest rate,
currently 16.4%. At this moment I don't have the card with me, but I will
let you know later.

Another free card worth considering is AT&T master/visa, which I carry
all the time, the phone # is 1-800-423-4343. This one is also a calling
card, one of the reasons I carry for the convenience.

Good luck!


-- 
********************************************************************
xcchen@iastate.edu; 294-3887 (O); 296-7917 (H)
A volleyball lover
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From: yidao@cae.wisc.edu (Yidao Cai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Traditional vs Simplified Characters
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:52:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Oct15.145254.12928
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

In article <mvdvalk.719166172@bosporus> mvdvalk@cs.utwente.nl (Martijn van der Valk) writes:
>characters actually look like a piece of sh*t. 
>
>To conclude, give me one, just one, valid reason for simplifying the world's
>oldest script in daily use. I think it is a bloody shame. I mean, even in Japan
>they show more respect for Chinese characters than in the PRC.
>
 In Japan, they even simplified the Chinese characters before China.  Do you
know in 30's a japaness letter contains only Chinese characters?  Why don't
they use Yuu (in yuu huang da di) but using guo (used to show respect) now ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cyw@iastate.edu ()
Subject: China-net
Keywords: china net
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:19:35 GMT

Could someone send me the command for signing on the China-Net.
Thank you very much in advance!
From: Congzhong.Wang@info.unine.ch
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: "6.4" bill, blood card
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:40:55 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

  Now that the Protection Bill signed, I think many CSS in US are happy. No
need saying congratulations, there are already too much, I believe.
  From my knowledge of this bill, it is said that the goal of the bill is to
protect those  CSS who would be in danger if they go back to China, and many
CSS  claim  that the bill will not hurt Chinese people, those CSS who get PR
will be promoting democracy and helping China abroad, and finally they will be
back to their homeland. Fine. All seems good. But ...
  Now, in this world, no matter in the "free world" or communist country, you
can promise everything, you can do nothing afterwards, and with good excuse :"
Even the president or party secterary could lie, there are big liars, why can
I NOT?" As to the conscience, a good Chinese saying tells all :"How much 1 jin1
conscience costs?" 
  Someone said, that the future of China depends on those CSS abroad.In science 
,perhaps, under the condition of their probable future going back. In politics,
absolutely NOT. Even if they came back, that means China is in REAL democratic
atmosphere, some questions would be asked: where were you and what were you do-
ing when Chinese people working hard to build the country and promoting democ-
racy in the difficult situations? Seeking protection and lobbying CMFN would
NOT be the good answers. 
  To the bill benefitors. Perhaps everyone knows that the direct cause of this
bill is "6.4". "6.4" means millions of Chinese people's effort and hundreds'
blood shed in the ChangAn Avenue in 1989. Remember it or not,it's always there.
  No "6.4", No this bill; No blood, No this card. 
  History, remembers ALL.
From: tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: POW
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:39:37 GMT
Organization: IBM
Originator: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com


In article <1992Oct13.124324.897@unine.ch>, Congzhong.Wang@info.unine.ch writes:
>

Maybe this post is not relevant to the issue that you talked, but,
remember that I asked you to provide me the exact, accessible title
about the info on Korean War Chinese POWs.

After several requests publicly on the net, I would have to say,
no evidences can be provided by the communists to support their claim
that the POWs were tricked back to Taiwan, but most of them willingly
go to Taiwan. The treatment of these people is another story, though. And,
hereby I openly call the Chinese commnunists the greatest con artists
in the world on this matter. The people were brainwashed by the few
tyrants. 
-- 
/* The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of IBM's.         *\
 * Take care and have a nice day.                                            *
\* Ty Lee                                                                    */
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: chen@haydn.ee.uec.ac.jp (Chen Jie)
Subject: Re: 9201 people's reaction to the blood card and blood carders
Organization: University of Electro-Communications, Chofu, Tokyo, JAPAN
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:10:02 GMT

Your effort is very valuable. Go ahead, don't be disturbed by those
begging dogs around your road.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china