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From: andy@poe.cs.clemson.edu (Andrew J. Greenshields N3IGS)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: French Tobacco Ban Overturned
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:19:42 GMT
Organization: Clemson University Computer Science Dept.


  I just heard on the BBC World Service that the French government had
amended the law regarding tobacco advertising so that the races, the
car and bike GP's, can go ahead.  The report didn't say whether FISA
had decided to reinstate the event though.


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From: unglenie@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1/INDY BLA,BLA,BLA...
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:19:50 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

attribution unknown writes:
>>Since the definition of foreigner is somewhat ambiguous (we are
>>all foreigners in most countries of this world ;-)  I assume she
>>meant to say that Emmo became the first non-US driver to win Indy.
>>This is incorrect.  I don't know who was the first (where are those
>>Indy historians?!), but Jim Clark (GB) won Indy in 1965 and Graham
>>Hill (GB) won it in 1966.

Russell Jaslow writes:
>I believe it was Jules Goux in 1913.  That was the driver who downed a 
>glass of champagne (French of course) at every pit stop for a total of 7
>on the day. 

The frenchman Goux is the first non-US born driver to win the 500.  However,
the amount he drank is in dispute.  I've read in some old Clymer's that it was
seven BOTTLES that Goux and his mechanic drank.  Every now and then, you
can find an empty champagne bottle for sale at nostalgia shows that is
said to be one of Goux's.....

What is not in dispute is that the Peugeot team interpreter was arguing with
race officials that it was a common thing at European events!  Goux spoke
no english so couldn't defend himself.

And unless you count the finish, Goux only made six stops during the race.

Rob U 
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From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Subject: Re: Building Stockcars
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: 30 Dec 1992 10:11 EST  

In article <1992Dec27.131028.384035@magicbb.uucp>, Wayne_Redman@magicbb.uucp 
writes...
>I need help buuilding a stock car actually I want to drive stockcar but I don't
>know how to get in it.  I would love if Darrel Waltrip or (Richard Petty is my
>hero) or Rusty Wallace or somebody would give me the chance to race and turn a
>few laps to prove myself worthy.  Anyone out there listening or can help me
>out, I don't even have to run laps, I JUST WANT TO LEARN!!!!!!

Ahem... Let's see here...

Option 1
--------

I suppose you could try calling DarWal, Inc. in Harrisburg, NC, Petty 
Enterprises in Randleman, NC, or Penske-Wallace-Miller in Mooresville, NC 
and ask if you could borrow a car for a few days.  I wouldn't recommend 
this route :-)

Option 2
--------

Take the FastTrack (sp?) course at Charlotte or the Buck Baker course at 
Rockingham.  If your lap times at either place are within 5 mph of the pole 
speeds for the Winston Cup cars in the fall, someone will find you.

Option 3
--------

Most local tracks have "rookie" and/or "sportsman" divisions.  It would 
probably be easiest to buy a "used" stock car and try your hand in one of 
these divisions at the local track.  If you're successful, migrate to Late 
Models and then maybe ACT or ASA.  If you eventually find yourself in ACT 
or ASA and are finishing higher than folks named Hanley or Eddy, someone 
will find you.

The best (and really only) way to learn to race is by getting seat time.  
There aren't that many "benefactors" out there who will give you a car and 
have a go at it unless you are a proven success. 

Just remembered - there are some local tracks which offer schools and 
"rentals".  While I don't know enough about most of these operations, it 
may be another option.

JD
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: pod@sour.sw.oz.au (Paul O'Donnell)
Subject: Senna Drives a Penske
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:56:32 GMT

From todays "Sydney Morning Herald"

Three times Formula One world champion Ayrton Senna has taken an
Indy car for a spin in Pheonix, Arizona.  But the Brazilian ace
denied he was following his rival Nigel Mansell into Indy cars.
Senna said he had no plans to switch to the American racing circuit.
Senna drove a Penske Chev 1992 Indy Car as a guest of compatriot
Emerson Fittipaldi, who successfully switched to Indy cars after
winning the Formula One title in 1972 and 1974.  Team Penske
spokesman Dan Luginbuhl said Senna had no plans to emulate Mansell,
who is to drive in the US series next year.  He said Senna had
merely expressed curiosity about the cars, since he had never driven
one before.

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From: jrp@bohra.cpg.oz.au (John Pitman)
Subject: senna/penske
Organization: Computer Power Software Group Pty Ltd
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:24:42 GMT

Hi
our local paper reported that Senna test drove a Penske with Fittipaldi, but
apart from remarking how well it cornered, was non-committal about everything!
this was copied from the TIMES.
jp
From: 00kavanhorn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Rally stuff and schools
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:07:49 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


	I would appreciate any information on magazines or books that deal 
specifically with rally racing and or any rally driving schools in either 
Europe or the U.S. Any and all information Irecieve would be greatly 
appreciated.
From: stoffel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Stoffel)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: TNN Motorsports?
Date: 29 Dec 92 13:48:50 GMT
Reply-To: stoffel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Stoffel)
Distribution: na
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC

Hope everyone is enjoying the holidays.

Would anyone happen to have the address for TNN Motorsports (or just
plain TNN)? If so, please e-mail or post at your convenience.

Thanks - Bill
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From: dougw@grebyn.com (Doug Worthington)
Subject: Al Unser Jr. to run Daytona 500 in Feb. 
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 16:38:01 GMT


I didn't see this posted but I just read that Al Jr. will run for
Hendricks motorsports in the Daytona 500 in a Chevy Lumina.

Go Al.


dougw
dougw@rdr.com
From: roberto@dcs.gla.ac.uk (roberto)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Who is the first non-US driver to win the Indy championship?
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:10:20 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
Return-Path: <roberto@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
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Robert Marti (marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch) writes:

| In article <1992Dec18.225457.26003@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
| motta@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nazare Motta) ...........
| 
| |> Then Fitipaldi moved to the U.S. and became the first foreigner
| |> to win the 500 miles of Indianapolis and I started watching it.
| 
| .................................................... I assume she
| meant to say that Emmo became the first non-US driver to win Indy.
| This is incorrect.  I don't know who was the first (where are those
| Indy historians?!), but Jim Clark (GB) won Indy in 1965 and Graham
| Hill (GB) won it in 1966.

I take the opportunity to ask a question to these Indy historians as well.
Is Fittipaldi the first non-US driver to win the Indy championship?
If not, who was the first?

Thanks in advance,

Roberto Barros
From: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: TNN Motorsports?
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:39:34 GMT
Reply-To: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Distribution: na
Organization: Reading Rehab Hospital, Reading PA

In article <29055@oasys.dt.navy.mil> stoffel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Stoffel) writes:
>Would anyone happen to have the address for TNN Motorsports (or just
>plain TNN)? If so, please e-mail or post at your convenience.

 Try:

	TNN
	Attn: Patti Wheeler
	2806 Opryland Dr.
	Nashville, TN 37214

 Thats the one I used to get permission for using TNN racing video on my TV
 show.

 -Dan
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From: scolucci@vax1.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Where is that AutoSport summary?
Date: 1 Jan 93 18:56:43 GMT
Organization: Trinity College Dublin

In article <1i0aibINN3kl@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks) writes:
> 
> What happened to the guy who does those AutoSport summaries?
> Not all of us get that magazines, you know.
> 
> Thanks.

I'm sure that "the guy" is under absolutely no obligation to provide summaries
for anyone, sir.

regards,
Serge
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: More F1 rumors
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:16:53 GMT


A guy that I know with some connection to F1 has told me that the rumor
is that if Senna goes in Indycar, Mansell will not race next year.  He
says that Mansell would rather not race that race against Senna or
Prost.

I tend not to believe this rumor, but maybe things got hotter between
Mansell and Senna last season than I realized.  True or not, there is
no fun keeping a good rumor to yourself, so enjoy . . .

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From: daveb@Ingres.COM (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418)
Subject: Re: Senna Drives a Penske
Originator: daveb@lotus
In-reply-to: pod@sour.sw.oz.au (Paul O'Donnell)
Reply-To: daveb@lotus (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418)
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 24 Dec 92 21:07:34 GMT

>...  He said Senna had
>merely expressed curiosity about the cars, since he had never driven
>one before.

Fascinating.  Was there any word on times or subjective comments from
Senna afterwords?

-dB



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From: unglenie@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks)
Subject: Re: Flame! (Re: senna in indycars)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:07:34 GMT

Rob Silcher writes:
>I seem to remember a few drivers that punted other cars off at Indy and other
>Cart races last year.  However I don't recall anyone 'beating' on anyone else.
>
>Specifically, Danny Sullivan took out Al Jr. in a road course to take a win.
>Little Al's response 'that's racing'.

Danny ran into the back of Little Al because Al slowed quickly after
encountering a backmarker.

Not quite the same as intentionally taking someone out...

>I think any driver is more likely to be attacked in F1 than in Indy for punting
>someone out of a race.  Indy drivers tend to be much more forgiving. Except 
>maybe Mario ;)

It depends if it was a racing accident or not.  Just try it on purpose
once in IndyCars.....

Rob U
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From: danjones@pyramid.COM (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Motorsports Betting
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:36:14 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View, California
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: xploit.eng.pyramid.com

mbahh@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (A.H. Henry) writes:

|> >Does anyone know if it is possible to place bets on auto racing anywhere?
|> >Do any odds makers follow NASCAR, Indy or Formula One?
|> 
|> This might not be of much practical use to you, but ...
|> 
|> In the UK, Ladbrokes do prices on Formula One.
|> They won't have any prices for the '93 season
|> until Febuary or March.  I wouldn't be surprised 
|> if they start to cover Indycars next year if it
|> gets on national TV.
|> 
|> I got my money back with enough pure profit to buy
|> a whole pint of beer after betting 10 quid each way 
|> at 8/1 for Patrese to win this years F1 title.

There is or at least was betting allowed on individual GP races 
too.  In '73, Peter Revson was 14/1 to win the British GP and he
placed a bet on himself.  He went on to win the race and collect
his winnings from the oddsmakers.

Dan Jones
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: dillman@vf.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re:'93 Indycar TV Schedule
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Flight Center
Date: 24 Dec 92 09:15:42 -0600

Pocono back on the schedule!!!???  I guess I missed something there!  Is it a
500 miler like before?

Dennis Dillman
From: greg.roberts@dwarp.sccsi.com (Greg Roberts) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Nissan Team
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:47:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Data Warp Premium BBS - Spring/Houston, TX - 713-355-6107
Reply-To: greg.roberts@dwarp.sccsi.com (Greg Roberts) 



FJD} Hi All! Can anyone update me on what's going on with the Nissan
FJD}IMSA GTP racing team? What are their plans for next year? What
FJD}about their drivers? (Geoff and Chip)..Thanx! :-)

Nissan has decided to withdraw from GTP next year, as has Mazda.

Nissan has hinted that it wants to go IndyCar racing.
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From: mbahh@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (A.H. Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Names of bends in GP circuits
Date: 2 Jan 1993 01:27:20 -0000
Organization: Daresbury Lab., Warrington, U.K.
NNTP-Posting-Host: seqnet.dl.ac.uk

In article <8497@charon.cwi.nl> jack@cwi.nl (Jack Jansen) writes:
>Greetings all,
>in a (horrbily difficult) quiz I'm doing one of the questions gives 10
>names of bends (corners? what is the correct english word?) 

You can use either word  -  unless they're curves that is :)

>in GP race circuits and I have to find out the names of the tracks. All
>means of obtaining the information are allowed, so that is why I turn
>here for information. If anyone could tell me which circuits the bends
>below are part of I would be very much obliged.

What are the other questions ?  Are there any interesting ones ?

>        Barbeque
Kyalami

>        Bolderberg
Bolderbergbocht is at Zolder

>        Druids
Brands Hatch has "Druids Hill Bend".  Oulton Park has "Druids Corner"

>        Flatschach
Osterreichring

>        Linden
Nurburgring [guess] .

>        Massenet
Spa Francochamps [guess]

>        Pegaso
Jarama

>        Sainte Baume
Don't know

>        Scheivlak
Zandvoort

>        Serraglio
Monza

			Andrew  Henry
Sempre  Gilles					bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
From: danjones@pyramid.COM (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Williams F1
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:18:20 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: xploit.eng.pyramid.com

jaslow@bissun.kodak.com (Russell Jaslow) writes:

|> >I think I heard somewhere that Alan Kulwicki is the first WC Champ with
|> >a college degree.  I know AK is a college boy, but is he really the first?
|> >And how many IndyCar champs have degrees, Bobby Rahal has a degree from 
|> >Denison, he was a couple years ahead of John Berton who used to do the 
|> >F1 reports for r.a.s.
|> >
|> I remember when Alan Kulwicki won his first WC race, it was mentioned that
|> he was only the second NASCAR driver with a college degree to win (I can't
|> remember who was the first).  Therefore, the fact that he is the first 
|> college graduate to win the championship makes sense.

Mark Donohue won a WC race at Riverside, so if there was only one driver before
Kulwicki, Donohue's the one.

Dan Jones
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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Non-USA Indycar Champs
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:50:47 GMT

Dario Resta was the AAA champion in 1916,
but I'm not sure if he was a "non-USA"
driver.  He finished second overall in
1915, the same year he became the 1st driver
to first win a race with an average speed
exceeding 100mph (101.8 in a 100-miler at
Chicago) in a Peugeot.

bob
From: dlhpfm.uucp!dlh@ab.com (daniel lance herrick)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Flame! (Re: senna in indycars)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 19:33:27 EST
Organization: dlh Performance Marketing

dp54@mc4adm.UWaterloo.ca (Rob Silcher) writes:

> I seem to remember a few drivers that punted other cars off at Indy and other
> Cart races last year.  However I don't recall anyone 'beating' on anyone else
> 
> Specifically, Danny Sullivan took out Al Jr. in a road course to take a win.
> Little Al's response 'that's racing'.

That seems like an accurate description of the incident between the two
Galmers.  And the things that took out the leaders and let John
Andretti win in Surfer's Paradise (even though I think Michael set Al
up, he didn't have to take the bait).  And even the incident that threw Al
Jr. into the air and the incident that threw Rahal into the air in the
same race.

It really does not seem like an accurate description of the incident in
the first turn at Suzuka in 91

> I think any driver is more likely to be attacked in F1 than in Indy for punti
> someone out of a race.  Indy drivers tend to be much more forgiving. Except 
> maybe Mario ;)

I think Senna could make things very uncomfortable for himself in the
friendly Indycar world.

dan   dlhpfm!dlh


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From: bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: About F1 (and a little bit of INDY)
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:36:58 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, TBACKMAN@FINABO.ABO.FI (Timo B{ckman TF) writes:
>
>The was also a notice about the fact that Ligier no more owns the Ligier team.
>I would like to know who the new owners are, who is team manager and so on.
>Thanks in advance.

Ligier has been bought out by Cyril de Rouvre, who used to own AGS.
Gerard Ducarouge is the main technical director.


			Andrew  Henry
Sempre  Gilles					bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
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From: unglenie@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks)
Subject: Re: Non-USA Indycar Champs
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:25:29 GMT

Bob Kehoe writes:
>Dario Resta was the AAA champion in 1916,
>but I'm not sure if he was a "non-USA"
>driver.  He finished second overall in
>1915, the same year he became the 1st driver
>to first win a race with an average speed
>exceeding 100mph (101.8 in a 100-miler at
>Chicago) in a Peugeot.

Dario was non-US.  However, a case can be made that the 1905 Champ was
the first.  There is dispute if Victor Hemery was canadian as claimed.
But it also leads to a problem since the Indianapolis Motor Speedway
wasn't built yet!  Would it have been an IndyCar race then....?

Rob U
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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: '93 Indycar TV schedule
Date: 26 Dec 92 20:33:53 GMT
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


In article <BzotL6.8yI@ncube.com>, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
|>
|>* All times listed are Eastern
|>** Air dates and times subject to change
|>
|>September 20 - Pocono - ESPN - 9-11pm

Pocono??  I thought the 2nd to last race of the season was held in Nazareth,
PA.

--PSW
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From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Robinson)
Subject: HELP: Mustang GT wont start
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:40:36 GMT



I've recently bought a used 1989 Mustang GT with 46k miles on it.  Today was
the first day I've had any trouble with it.  I was driving along in 1st gear
, at the same time reaching under the driver seat for something.  I ended up 

and eventually the engine started running.  There was plenty of electrical juice
and eventually the engine shut off.  There was plenty of electrical juice as
when I turned the key the starter had its usual vigor.  The radio and lights
were fine.  I saw that the "cap" I had in my hand fit on some kind of thing
under the seat.  There were three wires going into something what I know
nothing of, there were rows of metal plates and a spring in some 1" x 1"
device of some sort.  There was black stain on the metal as if it had been
shorted or something.  I tried to start the car about 5 times, the starter
was fine.  So the problem is fuel, or ignition.  Thats all I have now, Im
about to take a spark plug out and set it a half inch from the block and crank
to see if theres spark.  Any clues about this "device" or anything else please
reply..   

Thank you

Dennis Robinson