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From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Help required
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:28:31 GMT

In article <Bw7oAG.G66@cck.coventry.ac.uk> csi063@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Lover...) writes:
>+--------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+
>| csi067@uk.ac.cov.cck                 | Also know as: Hair Brain              |
>+--------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+
>| -------------------- Life's a bitch and then you die ------------------------|
>+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>-- 
>+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Simon Love / The Lover, BSC Computer Science Year 2, 47 Carmalite rd, Stoke! |
>+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

This guy has *TWO* .signatures on his message. "Stoke!" indeed.
Sheesh. This would look a lot better had he not joined the 80-column club.
"I'm not only the president..."

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh    mdw@tc.cornell.edu        +1 607 253 2737
Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
  "Yow! Up ahead! It's a DONUT HUT!!"
From: meachem@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Meach)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: test
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:38:28 GMT
Organization: UB

In alt, article <13143@glenn> glenn@Software.Mitel.COM (Glenn Thrower) writes:
>
>this is a test -  please ignore !
>
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>     / /_____/ /        / /            / /         Kanata, Ontario, Canada
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I don't suppose we can take credit for these alterations?

[I don't suppose we *want* to take credit!]

--rjr enterprises
                        __________  __o __o __o
                      __________   -\<,-\<,-\<,
                       ..........(_)/---/---/(_)..

    The Rhealist, The Meach, and rachel  . . . off to conquer new worlds!
                  But which is whom, and who is which?
 meachem@astro.ca-=*=-nadeau@acsu.arizona.edu-=*=-rperkins@bnr.as.buffalo.edu
 bicycle, bicycle...i like to ride my bicycle, i like to ride my bike - Queen
  ["Fat Bottomed Girls", indeed!   rachel... are we gonna put up with that?]
From: rpwhite@ac13.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: HYPOCRISY of Public School Prayer
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:45:05 GMT
Organization: Monterey Bay Yacht Club, Monterey CA

drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice) writes:

|--
|_____________________________
|__-----____--___--__-----____	D. Keith Rice
|__--__--___--__--___--__--___	University of North Texas
|__--___--__--_--____--___--__	Department of Computer Science
|__--___--__----_____--__--___	Denton, Texas, USA
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|__--__--___--__--___--__--___	drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu
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YOW! My eyes hurt.
From: bigdave@texas.tdd.sj.nec.com (David Sweeney  x2987)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: Ryu vs. Saget (SFII)
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:18:10 GMT
Organization: NEC-AM TDD, San Jose, California

In alt.games.sf2 article <1992Oct9.000254.26999@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 tpordon@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tony Pordon) writes:
>
>
>
>Ja mata...
>
>
>						-Tony
>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
>   | |      \   I have gone out into the world to find myself.  /      | |
>     ~~	      \   Should I get back before I return, please   /       ~~
>  \___/		\         hold me until I get here.         /         \___/  
>		  \_______________________________________/
>
>     "I've had this ice-cream bar since I was a child...[sniff]...people
>	always trying to take it from me!  [sob]   Why don't they just
>	leave me...ALOOOOONE?!?!?!?!?!"
>					-Ren
>     "Hmmm... No, sir; I don't like it!"
>					-Anonymous Horse
>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>


It gets better with the tab damage.  Really.

>     "Hmmm... No, sir; I don't like it!"
>                                       -Anonymous Horse

The horse has it right!

-- 
Dave Sweeney     bigdave@tdd.sj.nec.com
"Do you have rubber WALRUS protectors?"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.warlord
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Kaskade Challenge II
Keywords: Cascade
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:39:11 GMT

In article <lindsay.718950256@cs.wisc.edu> lindsay@green.cs.wisc.edu (Joe Lindsay) writes:
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Joe "Keeper of the Cheese" Lindsay -- lindsay@cs.wisc.edu
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Covered up with lava and I feel fine
> It washes over me
> Keeps me feeling warm at night"
>         			     - Bob Mould - "Hoover Dam"
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Who the fuck made *him* Keeper of the Cheese? I certainly didn't get to 
vote. Fascist pig.

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh    mdw@tc.cornell.edu        +1 607 253 2737
Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
  "Yow! Up ahead! It's a DONUT HUT!!"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: fff@microplex.com (Fred Fierling)
Subject: Re: test
Keywords: test
Organization: Microplex Systems Ltd.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:20:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.195647.29746@bnr.ca> gordm@bnr.ca (Gord McLennan) writes:
>Since no one in their right mind would listen to this junk
>I'll test by posting here.

What are you testing, your asbestos underwear?
-- 
Fred Fierling    fff@microplex.com      Tel: 604 875-1461   Fax: 604 875-9029
Microplex Systems Ltd   265 East 1st Avenue   Vancouver, BC  V5T 1A7,  Canada
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: s0454850@let.rug.nl (J.P. Prenger)
Subject: The yellow shark
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:53:37 GMT

Why don't I hear any comments on FZ's concerts in Germany? He performed 
there f.e. the suite `The Yellow Shark`.

Greetings, Jan Peter Prenger

P.S. who are those people who built a yellow shark and put in FZ's frontlawn?
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: fff@microplex.com (Fred Fierling)
Subject: Re: ZappaPhish
Keywords: phish, zappa
Organization: Microplex Systems Ltd.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:12:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.153202.25776@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> orf@scrap.ssec.wisc.edu (Leigh Orf) writes:

>and haven't seen in about 10 years :^( . I bought the Ryko '/Overnite
>Sensation CD and wasn't thrilled with the sound quality entirely. Anyone
>with the original vinyl (Discreet Records) notice a different mix perhaps?

Yes, I think you are right.  I preferred the sound of the original vinyl
(minus the inevitable pops, crackles, and sibilant distortion) to the CD.
The CD doesn't have the punchy bass of the original.
-- 
Fred Fierling    fff@microplex.com      Tel: 604 875-1461   Fax: 604 875-9029
Microplex Systems Ltd   265 East 1st Avenue   Vancouver, BC  V5T 1A7,  Canada
From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Some notes to The Yellow Shark
Date: 11 Oct 92 10:41
Organization: Magick Shoppe, Gurth City

gavras@acs.bu.edu (alexis gavras) writes:
> [...] By the way, would you know if a recording of any of those
> shows will be made available?

Definitely, yes.  The first Frankfurt show was recorded and will be
available on CD.

--ralf
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: mr@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Matthias Rademacher)
Subject: creation of Ruth is sleeping
Keywords: Zappa, Music
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:22:34 GMT

FRANK ZAPPA: Ruth is sleeping (1990) (- creation -)
GERALD HUMEL: Feuerregen
ARIBERT REIMANN: Spektren
HOSEF TAL: Concerto no. 6 for Piano and Electronics
JOHANNES KALITZKE: Macchina d'autunno

Jeffrey Burns, Piano

Schreyahner Herbst
Sunday, October 25th 1992, 20.00

Information: Samtgemeinde Luechow, Germany (0)5841 1260
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Help folks! Badly in need of Jim Morrison/Doors lyrics!
Keywords: Jim Morrison/Doors lyrics
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:19:30 GMT
Organization: Logic Modeling Inc of Beaverton Oregon

In article <AAT-usgOs5@sbfexc.kemerovo.su> kbc@sbfexc.kemerovo.su writes:
>
>

    Uhhhhh.....wrong group?

    - Larry
-- 
         (larryh@lmc.com)         | She made champagne out of 7-Up and
     Logic Modeling Corporation   |       cheap wine.  A chemist! 
          Beaverton,  OR          |  - "Earth To Doris" [Was (Not Was)]
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From: bjornl@sics.se (Bj|rn Lisper)
Subject: Re: Just curious...
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
	<Bvs8ps.Exw@nic.umass.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:40:40 GMT

Speaking of PHISH and FZ, there another band with similar name that I find
Zappa-influenced: namely Fishbone. This is a sort of neo-funk post-hip-hop
band from L.A. They have great chops and they sometimes sound like the early
eighties Zappa band. Check out the album "The Reality of my Surroundings"!

Bjorn Lisper
From: gordm@bnr.ca (Gord McLennan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: test
Keywords: test
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:56:47 GMT
Reply-To: gordm@bnr.ca (Gord McLennan)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Since no one in their right mind would listen to this junk
I'll test by posting here.

My opinions only.
From: dadmun@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Movie Recommendations....
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:09:23 GMT
Reply-To: dadmun@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

In article <ROLAND.92Sep29075704@ar80darlrk.er.usgs.gov>, roland@ar80darlrk.er.usgs.gov (Roland Bryant) writes:
>
>>200 Motels is where it's at.  Accept no substitutes (including Baby Snakes).
>
>>Are you sure that video is 200 Motels, the movie itself?  I've never seen
>>it available, though I recall seeing a video >about< 200 Motels.  (The
>>real thing stars Ringo Starr (as an ersatz Zappa), Throdore Bikel and
>>Keith Moon, among others.
>
I don't agree.  I think Baby Snakes is by FAR, better.  I don't like Ringo
as Frank.  I like Frank as Frank.  The claymation in BS is incredible and
the tunes are rockin'  (Terry Bozio - Punky Whips).

Anyway that's my $.02.

"Centerville...   A real nice place to raise your kids....   Centerville.."
                                     The only thing I really liked from
                                      200 Motels

Andy D.
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Just curious...
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:28:15 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <Bvs8ps.Exw@nic.umass.edu> jepstein@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jonathan Epstein) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.191801.4906@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>>In <Bvr7Lr.Hpv@nic.umass.edu> jepstein@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jonathan Epstein) writes:
>>

>>From what I've heard of phish, they sound like just another
>>neo-psychedelic, modern day grateful dead imitating, blues-rock kind of
>>band.

>	Have you ever heard them? I assume you haven't from this statement.

The statement "From what I've heard of them"???

A friend of mine lent me a live tape.  I listened to it, but after about
15-20 minutes I could take no more.

Tell me, if they are so great, what is the one thing I must listen to that
will turn me around?

Someone mentioned Aquarium Rescue Unit, and I seem to recall not being very
impressed by them either.  Ozric Tentacles, now there's a band with
something going for them.

Of course this thread is getting less and less zappaesque by the minute.
-- 
    / \      Reverend fnord                 | "King Kong died for your sins!"
   /   \     fnord@panix.com                | 
  / <0> \                                   | "Don't just eat a hamburger, 
 /_______\   Church of Obfuscatology, Inc.  |  eat the HELL out of it!"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: caplan@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Joshua Caplan)
Subject: keep it greasey
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:52:24 GMT

>"Keep It Greasey" is mostly in 19/16

YES!!!!!!!  Kudos to whoever figured that out!  

I have long been a fan of this particular tune because of its amazing time
signature and the soloing.  In fact I was very disappointed to hear
the concert version on one of those YCDTOSA or Best Band CDs, because
they kept it straight ahead 4/4.  I imagine playing 19/16 in concert
at such a fast tempo is hard, but certainly Zappa's band could do it.

-- 
------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
caplan@cs.uiuc.edu	|	Joshua Caplan
			|	Department of Computer Science
			|	University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: the list of odd time signatures
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:44:16 GMT


Well, thanks to everyone that replied.  I'm suprised people didn't
have more songs to list, but here are some of the songs I got back
from readers.  There seems to be some discrepency between listeners,
so I'll include different replies:

Watermelon in Easter Hay is in 9/8 or 9/4
"Watermelon In Easter Hay" is in 9/4
Outside Now (I believe in 6/4?)
_Outside Now_ is in 11/8
Outside Now has alternating 7 beat measures and 4 beat measures.
"OutsideNow" is 11/4 
"Keep It Greasey" is mostly in 19/16
"Five-Five-Five" which is in (you guessed it!) a 5-beat meter on top
   of other wierdness.
Five-Five-Five that has two measures of 5/8 followed by a measure of
   5/4 counted like
   this: |1 2 1 2 3|1 2 1 2 3|1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 &|.
"Brown Shoes Don't Make it" has all sorts of different sections to it,
   many of them NOT in 4/4.
Fembot in a Wet T-shirt
Dwarf Nebula
Golden Arches is in 7/8
----

If you want to see this list grow, send me songs you think were left
out or what you think is a correction.

-rob
----
Rob Francis   Unix Systems Specialist, Indiana University
francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
From: ema@netcom.com (Kris Cook)
Subject: Re: RE: Just curious...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:41:15 GMT

From article <92281.165625JDRESNO@auvm.american.edu>, by Joseph Dresnok III <JDRESNO@auvm.american.edu>:
>      There is also Aquarium Rescue Unit, with a slightly more jazz feel.  I'd
> also highly recommend checking those guys out.

You are the second person to compare this band to Zappa, but the name I was
given is "Bruce Hampton and The Aquarium Rescue Unit". They play in
Atlanta every now and then so I guess I'll have to check em out.

On another note, I read in the paper a couple of weeks ago that Frank 
was doing a show in Europe but then had to cancel due to health problems. 
Is he doing a limited tour thing or what? Any dates in the states?

***************************************************************************
Kris Cook - Senior Systems Analyst             krc@aix3.ema.com
Energy Management Associates                   (404) 261-5256
Atlanta, Georgia  


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From: gavras@acs.bu.edu (alexis gavras)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Some notes to The Yellow Shark
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:27:36 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: gavras@acs.bu.edu

In article 1615 Markus Fuenfroken writes:

>So much for today. If you like, i try to translate more of this [the concert 
>booklet]!
>Keep me posted! Foo Fee!

I'm sure I speak for a lot of this newsgroups readers when I assure you that 
we would like more you to translate more of this, as well as give nore details
about the concert. By the way, would you know if a recording of any of those
shows will be made available?

                           Thanks,

                                   Alexis

"That's right folks, there's a big difference between kneeling down and ben-
ding over."




Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: jepstein@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jonathan Epstein)
Subject: Just curious...
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:46:39 GMT

I was just curious what people in this newsgroup think of the band PHISH.
They have often been compared to FZ, and for good reason.

If you've heard of this band, and well you should, please respond. 

-J
From: brown@pollux (Daniel Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: RE: Just curious...
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:50:34 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia

In article <1992Oct8.174115.4319@netcom.com> ema@netcom.com (Kris Cook) writes:
>From article <92281.165625JDRESNO@auvm.american.edu>, by Joseph Dresnok III <JDRESNO@auvm.american.edu>:
>>      There is also Aquarium Rescue Unit, with a slightly more jazz feel.  I'd
>> also highly recommend checking those guys out.
>
>You are the second person to compare this band to Zappa, but the name I was
>given is "Bruce Hampton and The Aquarium Rescue Unit". They play in
>Atlanta every now and then so I guess I'll have to check em out.

Col. Bruce and company certainly are worth seeing.  I just saw them last night.
Of all the bands I have ever seen, they come the closest to FZ in terms of
interesting rhythmic anomalies.  They also display a moderate amount of Zappa-
esque humor.  The music is mostly R&B-based, but there are plenty of funk,
jazz, and even bluegrass elements present.  The players are technically
amazing -- the rhythm section produces some of the strangest polyrhythms on
this side of California, and the mandolin and guitar players can _burn_.  Col.
Bruce himself plays the "chazoid?", a 4-string instrument which, according to
legend, was found in a gas-station restroom in Sylacauga, Alabama.

In short, go see them!

-- 
Daniel W. Brown (brown@pollux.cs.uga.edu)
From: cadwell@rad.psu.edu (Brian Cadwell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: FZ/XTC connection
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:29:01 GMT
Reply-To: cadwell@rad.psu.edu
Organization: Big Swifty Inc.

In article 16993@news.media.mit.edu, ben@media.mit.edu (Benjamin Kline Lowengard) writes:

>I like xtc as well but prefer their ENO-ESQUE early albums to the more
>modern stuff..but let me digress a bit and start a different thread on this
>motif. Did Zappa turn you on to New Music?


No. I mean not yet. I have enough to do catching up on all the FZ I haven't
heard. Maybe when I become wealthy I can expand my collection. I actually
got into XTC before Zappa, largly because my sister had their albums. I got
turned onto FZ by a freind. I recorded all of his albums, then went out and
bought most of the discs. I usually have to listen to a piece of music before
I'll buy any particular band's/performer's disc.

bc
From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Just curious...
Summary: you asked...
Keywords: conceptual incontinence
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:21:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <Bvr7Lr.Hpv@nic.umass.edu> jepstein@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jonathan Epstein) writes:
>I was just curious what people in this newsgroup think of the band PHISH.
>They have often been compared to FZ, and for good reason.

Oh, pulllleaze.  I think they've been compared to the Dead more than to FZ.

>If you've heard of this band, and well you should, please respond. 

Yes, Phish was beat to death at some length in rec.music.misc when the
creation of r.m.phish was suggested.  I went out and bought a copy of their
most recent CD at the time.  None of the stores here will take it in trade,
as they've all got 3-4 used copies already.  If anyone wants it, send me
email.

Phish has some tight musicianship, but that's about it for me.  The vocals
are _really_ bad, and the self-consciously psychedelic/surreal lyrics fell
flat (again, for me).  None of the "we're not just for DeadHeads, really,
honest" bands (Spin Doctors, Phish, et. al.) float my boat so far.  

I think FZ has made his opinions about hippies and other groovy folk pretty
well known, e.g., "Cosmic Debris," the early Mothers stuff, etc.

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: ben@media.mit.edu (Benjamin Kline Lowengard)
Subject: Re: FZ/XTC connection
Keywords: Mup!
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:12:17 GMT

In article <Bw7y08.Kz8@cs.psu.edu> cadwell@rad.psu.edu writes:

>
>- Funny story about Frank Zappa: 
*lots deleted for brevity sake*

>I always new there had to be some kind of connection between my two
>favorite bands. I would guess that there are more XTC fans who would
>say they enjoy Zappa than the other way around.
>
>bc
>

Interesting..and typically Frank!
I remember a friend feeling much relief after Zappa spoke admiringly about
Brian May's guitar playing on some Queen albums, which came as a surprise
to most Zappa heads - I'm sure (I was already a big fan of both as well)

I like xtc as well but prefer their ENO-ESQUE early albums to the more
modern stuff..but let me digress a bit and start a different thread on this
motif. Did Zappa turn you on to New Music? I mean, did anyone else, as I
did go out and buy those George Duke albums after he started his
own career? I know Jean Luc Ponty from his affiliation with Frank, as well
as Johnny Watson,Vai, the bozzios, Chester Thompson(and his gorilla), 
etc etc. Some of the solo and other band works from these musicians are great
 (especially pre-zappa duke with Cannonball Adderly) but who and what 
stands out in your mind? When I "discovered" Johnny Watson's early recordings
it really changed my life(or rather my ear!)...Thanks Frank!

benj

"a curious breeze, a scarlet breath which sounded like a snore."
fz


Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: Re: Just curious...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:34:09 GMT

In <BJORNL.92Oct16174040@asia.sics.se> bjornl@sics.se (Bj|rn Lisper) writes:

>Speaking of PHISH and FZ, there another band with similar name that I find
>Zappa-influenced: namely Fishbone. This is a sort of neo-funk post-hip-hop
>band from L.A. They have great chops and they sometimes sound like the early
>eighties Zappa band. Check out the album "The Reality of my Surroundings"!

Now this one I agree with.  I don't know Phish, but I know that a lot
of Deadheads are into Phish, which makes me dubious about 'em. 
(Actually, I like the Dead, I just hate Deadheads.)  :-)

But FISHBONE!!  The very first thing I said when I first heard 'em was,
"geeze, have these guys listened to a lot of Zappa or what?!?"  Good,
fast, extremely tight musicianship coupled with an oddball sense of
humor, and an occasional musical reference to what I call the "squeak
and grunt" style of jazz (some Zappa, some Coltrane, some Beefheart,
most Sun Ra, etc.).   Even though they (Fishbone) are primarily a
rock/funk band.

And actually, I would have to recommend their first EP, _Party At Ground
Zero_ as the most Zappesque of their recordings.  It may be hard to
find, but it's well worth tracking down.  The title track especially
reeks of Zappa's style, as does the excellent _VTTLOTFDGF_ (which,
though it's not explained on the cover, stands for "Voyage To The Land
Of The Freeze-Dried Godzilla Farts," I'm informed by a reliable source.)
And they also put on a *smokin'* show!  They're young, and if you're
Zappa's age, you might find them a bit shallow, but they're still a
combo well worth watching.  Potential written all over these guys. 
Their first album knocked my socks off--I can't wait till they've had
time to make as many as Frank has!  :-)
-- 
Chris Waters    | the insane don't | NOBODY for President!
xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers | Because Nobody's perfect!!
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