HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mike@amazon.chem.columbia.edu (Michael New)
Subject: Havenhurst Hats
Organization: Center for Biomolecular Simulation, Department of Chemistry,
	Columbia University
Distribution: alt.tv.bh90210
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:25:32 GMT


The "Havenhurst" hats could very well be Harvard hats.  In an interview
with Jay Leno, Peter Horton, the director/actor, said that 
Havenhurst was Harvard.  On the other hand, the campus architecture
looks like "American College Gothic", not "Georgian" and so some 
connection to Yale may be implied.  A rumor around Yale was that 
they wanted to film on campus but were turned down.  Instead, 
the exteriors are filmed at the Univ. of Toronto.  Of course,
Hollywood's idea of a WKECC (well-known East Coast college) may
be one of large gloomy grey stone buildings...
	Michael New
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From: twn86@isuvax.iastate.edu (John Valley)
Subject: 90210 Upcoming episodes
Reply-To: twn86@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:23:40 GMT

				DISCLAIMER

	For those that dont want to 
see what happens tonight
or the next 2 weeks please go to the 
next message now. 

















Ok, got rid of them,

	Wednesday Jan 27th:
			Back in the High Life Again

		Jack MckayUs release from prison 

catalyzes not only the rekinding of 
DylanUs relationship with his father,
but also his relationship with
 KELLY!!!!!!! Dylan and 
Kelly realize they cannont 
procede without coming clean 
to Brenda, and they ultimatly 
reveal not only the facts of thier 
present relationship, but also 
the secret of their romance. 
The dissolution of Mel and 
JackieUs marrige hits David especially 
hard, as he neither wants to 
move into a bachelor pad with 
his dad, or move to portaland 
with his mother. Ultimatly he
 refuses to move out with his 
father and jackie agrees to let 
him stay with her. BrandonUs 
gambling escaltaes. Donna helps 
Andrea dye her hair.


	Wed. Feb 3

	Parental Guidance Recommended

		As DylanUs mother
 returns to LA, there is hope that 
the McKay family might be
 reunited. However, the hope
 fades as Jack and Dylan try to 
get her to relase his trust fund. 
In the end she relents with a stren 
warning to Dylan to be wary of his
 fatherUs intentions. Meanwhile, 
Brenda must deal with the fact that 
Cylan and Kelly are now a couple 
*cheer*, while David gets hooked 
up with an independant record 
producer. Also, when Andrea meets 
Jordan Bonner ( remember him from 
the gang fights at the football games,
 and Brandon writes a story with Jordan 
about the deaths occured) at a Yale 
luncheon, there is deffinatle attaction 
between them. COuld Andrea be 
heading towards an inter-racial 
romance? *bout time she had
 any real romance*





	Wed. Feb 10

	Dead End (this is gonna be a sad one)
		With Dylan and his
 dad now in control of the trust
fund, they, along with Kelly, take
 off to spend some time together
 on a boat loaned to Jack. The 
fantasy abruptly ends, however, 
when JACK is KILLED! Meanwhile, 
with the break-up of Jackie and Mel, 
Jackie is forced to put her house on 
the market while Andrea goes out on
 her first date with Jordan Bonner. 
Also Brenda and Donna take a 
self-defense class.

	Well thatUs all i have for now, 
ill probly get a new synopsis each 
week for 3 weeks in advance, IUll
 post it when i recive it. If i get time 
IUll probly do the same thing as
this on alt.tv.melrose-place 
later today. Bye


Destructor.......plays the only mud worth playing 

			Ivory Tower!!!!
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: A very serious question
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:42:39 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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Peter Krijnen (peterk@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl) wrote:
> I have heard rumours about Dylan dying of AIDS, can anyone tell me if these
> rumours are true ?

No.


> I have seen characters of BH appearing on 'Melrose Place'. Are people of
> 'Melrose Place' going to appear on BH as well ?

No, but there may be an episode with Matlock, so stay tuned.


Larry
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From: gallivan@after (Justin Gallivan)
Subject: Re: GIFS out there?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:14:24 GMT

aa384@Freenet.carleton.ca (Peter McPhee) writes:


>In a previous article, blanchar@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard) says:

>>
>>Anyone know of any gifs out there? (preferably Kelly and Brenda)
>>
>>thanks
>  I don't know about GIFs, but there are two JPEGS of Jennie Garth at
>piggy.ucsb.edu in the directory /pub/90210/incoming. I remember seeing
>about four Shannen there, but to be honest, I just wasn't interested. The
>two of Jennie were just frames from the opening credits, one of the frame
>with her name in it.

I believe that wuarchive has Shannen's TV Guide Cover.  I think the file's
name is shannen.


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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Grizabella)
Subject: Re: Brenda's eyes
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:50:17 GMT
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In article <1jk230INNqod@pandora.sdsu.edu> larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes:
>Henry Bloomfield (henry@dcs.qmw.ac.uk) wrote:
>
>> Is one of Brenda's eyes noticably higher than the other or am I
>> just imagining it?
>
>Yes.
>
>
>Larry

Larry! You're back! And such astounding knowledge you give us, too! How
have I EVER made it this far in life without you! :)

Meows and kisses...
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From: kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Heather L.
Date: 27 Jan 1993 05:29:27 GMT
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In article <C1H2vo.E03@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>Jeffrey Samuel Finn <Finster+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>
>>Just a question... what has Heather Locklear been in, anyways?
>
>I could be wrong, but isn't Heather that fucking butt ugly Sandra Bernhard
>chick on Roseanne's lesbo girlfriend?

	Run along and practice your homophobia elsewhere, you swine.


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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Grizabella)
Subject: Re: Class of 96, what else???
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-18647]: sparta
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:44:46 GMT


In article <1993Jan25.234758.16475@leland.Stanford.EDU>, olivia@leland.Stanford.EDU (Olivia Williamson) writes:
> In article <1993Jan25.163513.11833@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> >
> >Fox repeated the debut show of Class last night and so I watched it again,
> >with all of these opinions in mind. Fine, the first half of it (getting
> >to school, meeting the roommate *right there and not beforehand, not
> >even over the phone* (whazzup wit dat?)
>
> Actually, there are some schools which don't tell you about your roommate
> before hand.  Stanford doesn't.  I think the object is that you won't have
> any preconceived notions, and also won't be as tempted to stick with your
> roommate all during orientation, since they're the only person you know well.
> It works out fairly well, although it does make coordinating things (who brings
> the answerring machine, does anybody have a microwave, who has a better
> stereo) impossible.
>
> Just a note - it's not unheard of.

True... I had never talked to my roommate before I got to school. Tulane
does give out names and addresses about two weeks before school starts,
but not phone numbers, so you have to go harrass Directory Assistance to
find that. Anyway, I realize that this isn't a group dedicated to Class
of 96, but, since I have not had a chance to see it, I was wondering if
people could post or E-mail me the reasons why they think it is SOOOOO
unrealistic. As I said, I haven't seen it, but from the things that people
have posted so far, I don't see anything that didn't happen to me during
the past 2 and a half years.

I do have another question, though... Class of 96 deals with students
who are beginning their freshman yeaar, right? Then _Why_ is it premiering
in _January_? Aren't they a semester behind now? Is it September-ish on
the show? This was just a question we had when we saw the previews.

Meows and kisses...
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From: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: to Griz.....
Reply-To: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:03:46 GMT

Welcome back Griz.....
	The reason Class started in January with a September-ish plot is
becuase Fox was so proud of the show that they:
	a) wanted time to publicize it better (along with Key West, their
  other new Tuesday night show)
	b) wanted to wait until all the other "teen-ensemble" drama shows
  "faded out" (re: The Heights, Freshman Dorm, the Malibu show, etc.) so
  that this one wouldn't be seen as just another cheesy teen show.
I think it was worth the wait and that you should tape it if possible, or
find someone with a tv to watch it on. It really is good and I think all
the detractors will stop after this evening's episode. Last week was just
to set the foundation, so it had to be corny. Tonight we get into the
"nitty-gritty" of college life.
	Glad we finally might agree on something (although I still like
Whitney's version of IIIIEEIIIIIEEEIIIII Will Always Love You). Keep
in touch.....
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From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Re: Class of 96 realistic? NAH
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:58:15 GMT

st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

>not 100% like *my* school, but it's a lot like the college experience.
>Give it some time. I didn't like Melrose Place when it first startes
>but now I like it very much since all has settled and is on a "normal
>routine" of episode story lines. This show has every chance to get better.
>And it will.

Class of 96 might represnt some little liberal-arts New England schools, but
it is certainly not representative of large state, or even private, 
universities.

Ed.

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From: aa384@Freenet.carleton.ca (Peter McPhee)
Subject: Re: Who's Hottest???? Look and see....
Reply-To: aa384@Freenet.carleton.ca (Peter McPhee)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:56:24 GMT


>In article <1993Jan14.145804.19636@scorch.apana.org.au> jarqui@scorch.apana.org.au (Jared Quinn) writes:
>>novanet@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>
>>|BRENDA! BRENDA! BRENDA! BRENDA! BRENDA! BRENDA! BRENDA! BRENDA! BRENDA!
>>
>>|BBBBBBBBBBB  RRRRRRRRRRRR EEEEEEEEEEEE NNNN     NNNN DDDDDDDDDD   AAAAAAA
>>|BB       BB  RR        RR EE           NNNN     NNNN DD      DD AAA    AAA
>>|BB      BB   RR       RR  EE           NNNN     NNNN DD      DD AAA    AAA
>>|BBBBBBBBB    RRRRRRRRRR   EEEEEEEEEE   NNNNN    NNNN DD      DD AAAAAAAAAA
>>|BB      BB   RR       RR  EE           NNNNNN   NNNN DD      DD AAA    AAA
>>|BB       BB  RR       RR  EE           NNNN  N  NNNN DD      DD AAA    AAA
>>|BB        BB RR        RR EE           NNNN   N NNNN DD      DD AAA    AAA
>>|BBBBBBBBBBBB RR         RREEEEEEEEEEEE NNNN    NNNNN DDDDDDDDDD AAA    AAA
>>
>>|		Sorry, but it had to be let out. 

  You got to lower the dosage just a little bit, I think. Number one,
Brenda is NOT a real person, and no, neither is Murphy Brown. :) And second
and more importantly: Jennie Garth is MUCH hotter, and not a mega-bitch
like Shannen. (Did you see her on Dennis Miller?)
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From: blanchar@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Subject: Re: Melrose Place Has Its Own Newsgroup
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:43:08 GMT

larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes:

>Melrose Place has its own newsgroup called alt.tv.melrose-place.  The
>purpose of that newsgroup is to discuss topics related to the TV show
>Melrose Place.

>The purpose of this group is to discuss topics related to the TV show
>90210.


 since they are related, why don't we just make a alt.tv.fox-drama newsgroup?

 :)

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From: marwood@csri.toronto.edu (Simon J. Marwood)
Subject: Re: Havenhurst Hats
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: alt.tv.bh90210
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:31:58 GMT

In article <2B658A7D.11482@ics.uci.edu> ddo@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Debra Mai Xuan Do) writes:
>In <MIKE.93Jan25182532@amazon.chem.columbia.edu> mike@amazon.chem.columbia.edu (Michael New) writes:
>
>
>>A rumor around Yale was that
>>they wanted to film on campus but were turned down.  Instead,
>>the exteriors are filmed at the Univ. of Toronto.  Of course,
>>Hollywood's idea of a WKECC (well-known East Coast college) may
>>be one of large gloomy grey stone buildings...
>>	Michael New
>
>I heard that the campus for Class of '96 is filmed at UCLA.
>

WRONG! Trust me, it was filmed here at UofT. The trailers parked on the
street played havoc with traffic and parking for much of the fall term
here...

Simon

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From: peterk@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Peter Krijnen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: A very serious question
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:35:25 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
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I have heard rumours about Dylan dying of AIDS, can anyone tell me if these
rumours are true ?

I have seen characters of BH appearing on 'Melrose Place'. Are people of
'Melrose Place' going to appear on BH as well ?

Greetings from Holland
          Peter
     
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From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (U.F.Orb)
Subject: Re: Where are they??? (was Re: Class of 96 realistic? NA)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:39:24 GMT

burchell@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Toxic Avenger) writes:

>>Of course, this still doesn't prevent the extreme stereotyping
>>evident in the show. We've got everyone here: the Jock, the slut, the
>>Jewish-American-Princess, the geek/schemer, the actress, the 
>>African-American, the Grizzled Professor, the Young Professor,
>>Have I forgotten anybody????

>Where are the hippies!?!? I haven't seen the first sign of a good
>peacenick... Birkenstocks, frisbee, marijuana, long hair (well there was
>an extra, but he was wearing a gap shirt so it doesn't count, and he 
>walked by in the background) hackey-sac, tie-dye, any grateful dead reference
> artistic smoking apparatus, etc...

Come to think of that, did you also notice that with all the under-age
drinking going on, there did not seem to be *EVEN ONE SMOKER* in the
series so far? 

Not that I care, I'm a vehement anti-smoker myself ;-)
-- 
Jason Bilsky   fuzzbox@world.std.com 
"Got enough guilt to start my own religion."
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From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Re: Class of 96 realistic? NAH
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:19:04 GMT

fuzzbox@world.std.com (U.F.Orb) writes:

>eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:

>>st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

>Of course, this still doesn't prevent the extreme stereotyping
>evident in the show. We've got everyone here: the Jock, the slut, the
>Jewish-American-Princess, the geek/schemer, the actress, the 
>African-American, the Grizzled Professor, the Young Professor,
>Have I forgotten anybody????

Well, maybe the fabulously intelligent athlete from a poor family who is 
afforded the oppertunity to go to an exclusive school (anyone see School 
ties?).

>
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Heather L.
Date: 26 Jan 1993 23:03:41 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu wrote:
> p.s. is anyone else enjoying NOT talking about BH90210?

I'm not.


>                                                         This show has gotten
> so bad that not even its fans care to discuss it!

I do.


Larry
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From: slp43173@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Spencer Lee Pasero)
Subject: Re:  Who's Hottest????  Look and see....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:50:53 GMT

Just my $0.02 (or maybe $0.03...)

Most of the people I hang out with and I think that Andrea is the
hottest girl on the show. (Disclaimer:  I don't watch it that much--only 
when I've got an hour to kill on a Wednesday evening.)  I don't know 
what the average age of posters to this group are, but the few people 
I've discussed this with are all about 25.  I've always been partial to
brunettes, and Andrea has a beautiful face.  Plus, she's the only one on
the show who seems to have her head screwed on straight (with the
possible exception of Nikki, whom I also find attractive).  The actual 
person (Gabrielle Carteris) is also pretty level-headed.  I saw her on a
talk show once with a host who was an absolute imbecile.  Throughout the 
interview, she handled him very well, and more or less made him look
like an idiot in such a subtle way that he didn't even realize she was
doing it.  That sort of maturity _really_ attracts me to a woman, and 
it's something that I just don't see in Brenda or Kelly, for example.

Feeling your pain,

Spence

P.S.  A friend of mine from Purdue thinks Donna is the hottest girl on
the show, but I have no idea where he's coming from.  Just thought I'd
mention that.
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Dylan's choice
Date: 23 Jan 1993 02:16:53 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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Dawn Marie Neuhart (dn1g+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
> I think that Dylan should choose Kelly and then she should turn him
> down.

I think Dylan should choose Rosie Palms.  Then he won't have to worry
about kids or money.  Or AIDS.


Larry
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:14:53 -0500 
From: Jeffrey Samuel Finn <Finster+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Heather L.

Just a question... what has Heather Locklear been in, anyways?


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From: 96rpg@williams.edu (the Straw Dogs)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Angel symbol in Twin Peaks
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:58:10 GMT
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In article <1993Jan22.191645.11528@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> drewds@flash.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Southwood) writes:

>This also brings to mind the hooded man in black.
>This could be a sort of 'anti-angel' in the show.  The man in black
>is the one who kidnapped major briggs.  Unfortunately, because of  
>cancellation of the series, we never found out where Briggs was
>taken during the time of his disappearance.

allow me my own cockamammie theory on the MIB. briggs was shown in
what i believe to be the white lodge at the beginning of the episode
after he returned. (reasons: he was sitting on a stone chair, the
opposite of the tacky upholstered loveseats in the black lodge. there
was an incredible amount of foliage around, as opposed to nothing
alive in the red rooms. briggs describes the white lodge to bobby in
the second season's premiere as marble rooms, etc, which brought to
mind a classical architecture, very greek. and the green from the
plants is the compliment of the red on the curtains.) so it seems that
briggs has his mind (soul, whatever) firmly stuck in the white lodge.
such a target would be very tempting for the forces of evil: this is
why they sent the MIB to try to take him over ("was this meant... for
the soul? my soul?") and this is why cooper was made a target as well.
perhaps earle was sent directly from the black lodge to "get" coop,
ostensibly for his own reasons but really just a dupe...

>This is why David Lynch should make a movie called Twin Peaks: Finale
>and tie all of the second season themes together.  Otherwise, the
>story is unfinished.  I have little respect for people who can't at
>least finish the series they start.

i would think that lynch would want to move on to fresher ground. he
wasn't happy with the end of the second season, and anyway the actors
are getting old. was it just me, or did laura and bobby fail to look
reasonably like high school students in FWWM? i was there two years
ago... i know whereof i speak.


a question... anyone know the reason for the unexplained absence of
owls in FWWM? were they also gone in the first season (i didn't tape
it cos i'm stupid)? apologies if this is on a FAQ somewhere.

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"i don't want to talk about trees anymore." --coop