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From: hlam@bnr.ca (Hayward Lam)
Subject: NeXT User Group Of Ottawa Meeting on Janaury 7th
Reply-To: hlam@bnr.ca (Hayward Lam)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:26:32 GMT


NeXT User Group of Ottawa Meeting on January 7th
------------------------------------------------


When : Thursday, 7:00pm
Where: ComputerActive
       21 Antares Dr., Unit 112,
       Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


Topics: 
***  Database on NeXT  ***
Demo and discussion on databases and development tools 
available on NeXT.
Inlcude Parabase, Sybase, Oracle, DBkit, Objective DBtool kit etc.
Topic will be oriented for users and developers alike.
Demo machine is a NeXTcube with NeXTdimension board.

(A guest will talk about their experience with database 
development. Not confirmed yet.)


***  General discussion  ***
CD-ROM drive available for 3.0 upgrade.
Software packages discount for user group members.
NeXTWorld Expo etc.


Please pass the news around to whoever might be interested.
Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.


Regards,
Hayward

phone: 613-763-3663
email: hlam@bnr.ca



Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:6149 gnu.gcc.help:2867
From: hsu@cs.hut.fi (Heikki Suonsivu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Gcc, gdb problems with 4.1.1 on 3/60.
Date: 6 Jan 1993 14:10:37 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: laphroaig.cs.hut.fi


After we replaced 4.1 with 4.1.1 in our 3/60, we have been experiencing
number of problems, including malfunctioning shared libraries, panics and
other problems.  Some of these have been fixed by installing patches.

Compiling gcc 2.?.? fails, xgcc dumps core before or when
entering main.  This happens both when compiling gcc with cc or gcc 1.40.

Anyone with a
- List of all generally usefull patches?
- Jumbo patch which would contain all fixes done to sun3-4.1.1?

Installing all patches this far by hand does not seem to make sense.

-
Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND,
hsu@{otax.tky.hut,cs.hut,clinet}.fi  +358-0-8031121
/G=Heikki/S=Suonsivu/O=hut/OU=cs/PRMD=Inet/ADMD=Fumail/C=FI,
mcsun!hutcs!hsu, riippu SN, Email preferable.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Are BIFF and NIS compatible?
From: V.Spagnolo@massey.ac.nz (Victoria Spagnolo)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 20:51:20 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

hello

thanks to all who answered my previous query about biff not working.
unfortunately, all the things suggested do not make biff work. but i did
learn that comsat is the biff server and that it is setup in the /etc/services
file. one of the first lines of services is
      "this file is never consulted when the NIS are running"
and, yes, i am running NIS. is biff a lost cause when NIS are running?
please clarify. thanks,

vicki

Victoria Spagnolo - Programmer/Analyst
Department of Production Technology	|	V.Spagnolo@massey.ac.nz
Massey University			|	Voice: +64-6-356-9099 x7535
Palmerston North			|	Fax: +64-6-350-5604
New Zealand				|	New Zealand = GMT+12
From: exodus@crackle.Eng.Sun.COM (Greg Onufer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: How do I Detect Pending Data on a Serial Port?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 05:04:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: crackle

>I've openend up the serial port (/dev/tty[ab]) on my Sun IPC using the
>'open' command. I get back a file descriptor.  How can I detect if there
>is any data ready for reading, i.e. a Peek?

See the manual pages for poll(2) and select(3C) [Solaris 2.x manual
sections].

Cheers!greg
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: SS2 clone sync and halt
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:57:59 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>- After breaking the kernel with L1-A, I change to "new-mode".
>  typing "sync" tells "panic: zero", syncs the harddisk and dumps
>  the system afterwards (because of the panic ?), which is boring.

If it didn't do that, it wouldn't be a clone!  That is *PRECISELY* what
"sync" is *supposed* to do. 

"sync" is, arguably, a crappy name; it might have been better had it
been called "crash", because it's intended to be used when a machine is
"stuck" (e.g. hung in some kind of loop in the kernel) - it causes the
machine to panic, so that it:

	1) attempts to sync the disks out;

	2) takes a crash dump so that somebody can look at it and see
	   *why* it was stuck.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: pjp@sloth.mlb.semi.harris.com (Pat J. Pinchera)
Subject: How do I Detect Pending Data on a Serial Port?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:58:18 GMT
Organization: Interface & Control Systems, Inc., Melbourne FL

I've openend up the serial port (/dev/tty[ab]) on my Sun IPC using the
'open' command. I get back a file descriptor.  How can I detect if there
is any data ready for reading, i.e. a Peek?

I've tried ioctl(fd, I_PEEK, arg) but this really only applies to
STREAMS, not File Descriptors.  Then I tried ioctl(fd, FIONREAD, &num),
but this is supposed to apply to 'files' per the filio man page. Note
that both of these calls seemed to work in a simple C test program, but
when I tried to use them in my big C++ project, they both returned -1
and set errno to ENOTTY, which means the specified request does not
apply to the kind of object I specified in 'fd'.

Does anyone know how to do this? I want to be able to tell if there's
data there without actually doing the read, because that would 'consume'
the data. Reply here or e-mail.  If this goes like my last couple of
posts, I'll suddenly discover the answer in about 2 hours :-)

Thanks,
Pat

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: asw2s@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Alex S. Waterman)
Subject: Adding comm. protocol to sun kernel..
Originator: asw2s@palm.cs.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:05:34 GMT

Has anyone out there had experience with adding a protocol (non tcp, non 
STREAMS) to a Sun running 4.1.1?  I would like to add a new protocol 
(with different ethernet type field) to a machine.  There doesn't seem to be
any standard documentation on how to do this.  I have found some files that
must be altered (sys/netisr.h, netinet/if_ether.h) but don't know all of
them...  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 - Alex Waterman
   Alex@virginia.edu
From: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Mailtool question
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:41:47 GMT
Reply-To: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com
Organization: G.M. Research Laboratories

In article 14906@sarah.albany.edu, jim@thor.albany.edu (SCHLEMMER JAMES A) writes:
|>Does anyone know if there is a way to have outgoing mailmessages saved
|>automatically?  i.e., when I send a mail message to jdoe@podunk.edu,
|>I want a copy to be squirreled away somewhere.

Bring up the " EDIT...PROPERTIES....COMPOSE WINDOW " screen and
toggle the "Log all messages" button. You may also want to specify
a file name in the "Logged Messages File" field. 

When you have this set, click on teh APPLY button to save the
settings.

---
  	Robert Haar               InterNet : rhaar@gmr.com 
	Computer Science Dept., G.M. Research Laboratories
DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, everything in this note is
personal opinion, not an official statement of General Motors Corp.
From: exodus@vsync.Eng.Sun.COM (Greg Onufer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: audio redirect?...
Date: 10 Jan 1993 08:15:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: vsync

In <27759@sybase.sybase.com> jamest@sybase.com (James Terry) writes:
>does anybody know how to redirect output from the sun CD drive to the
>workstations internal speaker or to a file?

Plug a mini-stereo<->mini-stereo cable from the headphone jack of the
cd-player to the microphone jack of the SparcStation.  Use of an
impedance matcher (Radio Shack is one source, there must be others) is
recommended but you can probably get by with carefully setting the
volume of the cd-player low enough so the audio sounds fine.  Then set
the monitor volume (via audiotool or other means) and you can listen to
the audio without burning any CPU cycles (the monitor functionality
exists entirely in the codec).  You can also record the input
as you would normally.

Cheers!greg
Speaking for myself, of course.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: sd7047787@v9000 (SD7047787)
Subject: Need help on sun
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:33:00 GMT

Hi,
I have a few questions on Sun. Could someone please help me by answering
the questions below:

1. I read the Sun manual on the csh's command history feature. The way to
call the history commands seem to be the !! characters. Could someone tell
me how I can map this command history features to the arrow keys on the
numberic keypad? This is a very important and basic feature for the users.
Could someone please help!
2. How do I create an .au sound file? Or any ftp site where I can .au sound
file to play on our Sun stations?
3. I would like to have a login screen for our sun stations which present
user with a Sun logo or our LAN symbol whenever the station is free. I dunno
whether this is too much but I think there should be a way of doing this
since I've seen other workstations showing off their login screen instead of
the login prompt and empty screen.

Last but not least, I must thank all those who took the trouble to reply me
for my last posting of sun questions on the net. I have read up a few
workstations reference available in our library.
difficult to do so many things given this little time. a Therefore
ny advices or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! 8-)

PS. If not too much of a trouble, please reply me directly at my email
address below. Thanx!


  |\/\/\/\/|    Steven K.B. |  NTU, Singapore
  |	   |	Internet : sd7047787@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
  |	   |	Bitnet   : sd7047787@ntuvax
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,rec.sport.football.misc,rec.sport.basketball.misc,rec.sport.baseball,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.open-look,soc.motss
From: benji@mathsoft.com (Benjamin Cline)
Subject: DNS and SunOS 4.0.3
Organization: Institute for Mammalian Fur Growth
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:35:08 GMT

I know that under SunOS 4.1, DNS can't be used unless YP is activated (or a 
shared library is modified). Is this true under SunOS 4.0.3 as well? The few 
manuals I have don't answer this question (or, if it is mentioned, I missed
it).

	benji

-- 
				Benjamin Cline 	
R&D Network Administration- MathSoft, Inc  		benji@mathsoft.com     
			"The best teacher is the enemy"
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Accessing ID PROM
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:54:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>I have an application where I need to open and read
>the contents of the ID PROM.  Does anyone have any
>pointers in this direction?

Tell us what information you really need.  The hostid? Use gethostid(2).

-- 

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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Is Sun losing touch with its customers?
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:50:33 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>| Is any other non-peecee vendor doing svr4, though?

>Yes, Siemens, among others!  Surely given your email address you
>are aware of that!?

Big company -- I didn't even know that some other part makes machines.
What kind of architecture are these if they aren't IBMish x86's?

-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: ms4@cec1.wustl.edu (M. Shreedhar)
Subject: Process Migration
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:30:53 GMT


	

	Process Migration between Homogenous SunS does not seem 
	complicated; atleast on paper. So why hasn't Sun got down
	to implementing it? Or is a future version of SunOS going 
	to have it?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Reading/writing VAX backup
From: jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (Jens Petersohn)
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:20:25 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.sun.apps ]
[ Author was Jens Petersohn ]
[ Posted on 10 Jan 93 15:20:01 EST ]

[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.sun.admin ]
[ Author was Jens Petersohn ]
[ Posted on 10 Jan 93 15:19:39 EST ]

[ Article crossposted from alt.sys.sun ]
[ Author was Jens Petersohn ]
[ Posted on 10 Jan 93 15:18:55 EST ]

Is anyone out there aware of a UNIX utility that allows one to read/write
VAX backup tapes/files?

Jens


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From: blake@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Blake Freeburg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Printing files >1M fia pcnfs
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:50:10 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.misc
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Hi,

  I have finally hooked up a Laserjt II on a PC via pcnfs, with unix
and dos people printing nicely.  Just one question now - how can I print
files larger than a meg?  The lpr man pages mention that lpr kills them 
after around a meg, but some of the Windows people are printing documents/
graphics that are larger than a meg.

  Any help out there?  Systems in question: Sparc II, OS 3.xx, PC-NFS 4.0

Blake Freeburg
From: whb@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Bruce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: SUNVIEW - redirecting stdout to tty subwindow.
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:04:29 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Dept. Electrical Engineering, Edinburgh University, Scotland, UK.

I have followed the sunview manual's advice for redirecting stdout to a 
tty subwindow (see appended code).

This works fine for small amounts of text output (before control returns to
window_main_loop() ), but if it exceeds approximately a page's worth ,
the whole sunview application hangs (using very little CPU time).
Can anyone tell me what is going wrong ?

I have also been told that Sun is withdrawing support for sunview. If that is
the case what would be the best windowing library to move to (X is an option) ?

Thanks


Henry Bruce.


/***************************************************************************
*  void set_up_tty_window         Set up tty window to view text output    *
*                                 TTY subwindow                            *
***************************************************************************/
void set_up_tty_window() 
{
   int tty_fd;   
   tty = window_create(frame, TTY,
      TTY_ARGV, TTY_ARGV_DO_NOT_FORK, 
      WIN_X, 480,
      WIN_Y, 100,
      WIN_FONT, tty_font,
      WIN_WIDTH, 500,
      WIN_HEIGHT, 600,
      0);
 
   /* Re-direct tty output to window */
   tty_fd=(int)window_get(tty,TTY_TTY_FD);
   dup2(tty_fd,0);
   dup2(tty_fd,1);
}
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: ghost@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Hartmut Kuehn)
Subject: Alchemy 1.5 needed
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:04:24 GMT

Hi all !

As the subject says, I need Alchemy 1.5, but for SUN/Sparc-stations,
means Unix.
I have some of these jpeg files, that djpeg can't handle and Alchemy 1.4
doesn't know that sort of files.
If you look into these files, you see that they are made by Alchemy 1.5.

So if someone knows where I can find it (or is it no PD anymore ??)
or if someone has it, I would appreciate if you mail me or post here.

BTW: Any requests to some archie-hosts didn't help either, they only
have links to version 1.4.

Thanks and bye

************************************************************
* Hartmut Kuehn                 Phone: +49 (0)30 814 13 78 *
************************************************************
* Send your E-Mail to:              ghost@cs.tu-berlin.de, *
* kuehn@DB0TUI11.BITNET, kuehaaaf@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de *
************************************************************
*    " There are two ways of writing error-free progams.   *
*               Only the third one works. "                *
************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: SunView to XView conversion
From: bindi@ewd.dsto.gov.au (Bindi Harding)
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:21:09 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation, Salisbury, South Australia

Has anybody successfully used the Sun application to convert SunView applications to XView (Version 2)?

In particular, was it difficult to make minor conversions to the code which couldn't be converted, and was it difficult or tedious to convert PixWin functions to Xlib calls?

I am considering using the conversion program to convert an existing application on the Suns to run using X windows on HP machines.  Using the conversion program may be tedious and require a lot of debugging.  If so, I may consider rewriting it from scratch.

Any comments from people with past experience with this application would really be appreciated.  Thanks.

Bindi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From:  (Scott Sivi)
Subject: Locating .au Files
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.misc
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:52:08 GMT

I am trying to locate .au files that run under the SParc multimedia format.
If you have any leads please drop me a reply.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: lijewski@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Mike Lijewski)
Subject: strange EINVAL error from write(2) instead of SIGPIPE
Keywords: client/server EINVAL write SIGPIPE
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:47:59 GMT


I'm getting a strange error in the server of a server/client pair
running between two Sun IPXs under SunOS 4.1.1.  The short of it is
that write(2) occasionally returns an EINVAL error in the server when
I kill the client, instead of it getting a SIGPIPE.

The long version:

The server forks with the child doing the processing.  The child sets
up a SIGPIPE catcher with sigaction(2) and then goes about its
business writing a whole bunch of data.  On the other machine when I
kill the client with a ^C (I catch the signal and close the sockets
nicely), I occasionally see write(2) fail with EINVAL instead of it
exiting from the SIGPIPE catcher.

Anyone have any clues as to what is going on?  Thanks.


-- 
Mike Lijewski  (H)301-982-5461
Goddard Space Flight Center
ARPA: lijewski@rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov
SMAIL: 446 Ridge Rd. Apt. 3, Greenbelt, MD  20770 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: dcb@slsvitt (David Binderman 3841)
Subject: Re: Sun's ANSI C
Organization: SEL-Alcatel LTS Dept. US/ES
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 16:02:12 GMT

David Swofford (swofford@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: alec@stortek.com (Alec Sharp - x2955) writes:

: >We've been using the standard Sun C compiler on SunOS 4.1.x, and have just bought
: >a copy of the ANSI compiler so that we can investigate moving to ANSI C. I tried
: >compiling and linting some programs and noticed a problem with the function 
: >prototypes, some of which don't seem to conform to ANSI (I've included some examples
: >below, with Sun's version first, then what I read as the ANSI standard). 

: >Has anyone else noticed this? If so, what did you do?  If what I see is
: >really what Sun produces, I'm rather disappointed with their quality control.

: [Examples deleted]

: On page 76-77 of the "Sun ANSI Programmer's Guide" is the following:

: "Some of the functions in SunOS 4.1. libc do not behave as specified by the
: ANSI standard.  These differences are detailed below..." (the ones included
: in your examples plus maybe a few others).

: I was *FURIOUS* when I discovered this.  I bought the compiler because it
: was "Sun ANSI C".  In the preface of the manual it says "Sun ANSI C is Sun's
: ANSI-compliant compiler that runs on SunOS 4.1."  But in the "Read this first"
: section of the manual it says "Sun ANSI C is intended as a transition compiler
: from Sun C to a fully compliant ANSI C".  For most users, the differences
: probably won't matter (e.g., who cares whether malloc returns a char*
: or a void*, since it's almost always cast to something else anyway?).  But
: calling a compiler "ANSI-compliant" when some functions return totally
: different kinds of values is ABSURD.  The one that really got me was sprintf.
: In my application, I need to format a string via sprintf and know how long the
: resulting string is.  ANSI requires sprintf to return an integer representing
: the length of the formatted string, but in Sun's "ANSI" C, sprintf still 
: returns a char*.  So I still have to do strlen calls after sprintf's, when I
: should just be able to look at the sprintf return value, which uglies up the
: code with #if SUN ... #else .... #endif constructs.

: Does anyone know if the unbundled compiler being sold with Solaris 2.x is
: fully ANSI-compliant? 
: -- 
: David L. Swofford                 Phone:    (217)244-6959
: Illinois Natural History Survey   FAX:      (217)333-4949
: 607 E. Peabody Drive              BITNET:   DAVESWOF@UIUCVMD
: Champaign, Illinois 61820 USA     Internet: swofford@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

--
David C Binderman     Dept US/ESI, Bau 60, SEL-Alcatel AG, Lorenz Strasse 10,
D-7000 Stuttgart 40, Germany      dcb@us-es.sel.de   Tel: +49 711 821 3841
			An opinion for every occasion.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: pjp@sloth.mlb.semi.harris.com (Pat J. Pinchera)
Subject: Serial Commmunication between a Sun IPC and 68000
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.misc
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:36:09 GMT
Organization: Interface & Control Systems, Inc., Melbourne FL

I've been trying to use the serial port on our Sun IPC for communications
with a 68000 single board computer.  I'm able to write data to it but unable
to read data from it.

Through lots of little test programs, I can read and write through the
serial ports on the Sun (i.e. Sun connected to a terminal, read and write), 
and did the same thing with the 68000.  But when it comes to getting the two
to talk to one another, the Sun can not read from the 68000.

The method I'm using is to open the /dev/ttyb file via 'open',
set the input, output, and control flags of termio with tcsetattr,
then use 'read' and 'write'. The flags used are as follows:

inputFlag:		IXON, IXANY
outputFlag:		ONLCR, ONLRET
controlFlag:	B9600, CS8, CREAD

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong, or 
suggestions to get it so the Sun can read data from the 68000?

Reply here or via e-mail. Thanks.

Pat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: chris@wg.estec.esa.nl (Milquetoast)
Subject: Performance tuning
Reply-To: chris@wg.estec.esa.nl
Organization: WG/Estec, Noordwijk, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 14:42:07 GMT

I'm looking for information about how (and indeed if) to tune a network of
suns for maximum performance. If anyone knows of any books or papers or any
other information, please post the references here or mail them.

Regards,


Chris
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