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From: joiner@myria.cs.umn.edu (Jay K. Joiner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: CD-ROM Drives
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:13:46 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Sep15.143530.2735@tfs.com> eric@tfs.com (Eric Smith) writes:

>Which of those 8 brands is the best, fastest, most cost effective, etc.?

The CD Technology drive (a Toshiba T3301) is faster than a Denon DRD-253.
Both are supported by NT using the CD Technology ISA card (Future
Domain TMC-850M) and daisy chain cable.

>The CD Technology coupon mentions an adapter for $100, and a parallel
>port adapter for $120.  Will both of those work with the SDK?  Are
>they SCSI or what?  Are there any problems using the parallel port?

The $100 card works fine with the SDK.  I thought I saw a post that
the parallel port card is not supported by NT.

>They say allow 2-4 weeks for delivery.  Does it really take that long?

My experience was about 2 weeks mailing in the order card and using
a personal check.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Warnings on link!
From: prevo@blot.ksc.nasa.gov (Joe Prevo)
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:14:01 EST
Reply-To: prevo@blot.ksc.nasa.gov (Joe Prevo)
Distribution: world
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Is there any way to turn off the "link" warnings about no modules extracted
from a library? I think its "warning 0505". I'm getting tired of scrolling
back through all the warnings to see if I got any real warnings.

Got my first NT application ported! Boy are my Param's tired.

#ifdef WIN32
Joe "HIWORD(wParam)" Prevo
#else
Joe "I thought the 'w' in wParam stood for 'word'" Prevo
#endif

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: schiers@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Carsten Schiers)
Subject: Re: Problems with LINK386 and ET4000
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:06:15 GMT

storm@uriel (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) writes:

>Following the instructions given there just caused my screen to garble
>...

I have no problems using 2theMax VGA400 with Nec 3D. So I think, try again
by reading the instructions carefully, it should work.

>cl386 complains that it can't find link386, and the link.exe just doesn't
>seem to like me.

Have you used the SETUP program of the SDK for the MSTOOLS? It is not described
in the instructions to use it when doing the install with dos2nt. I used
dos2nt and had to use the SETUP.BAT in MSTOOLS because it sets several
environment variables. After doing this, it works.

CU Carsten.
From: martin@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: NT bug!
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:36:09 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Hi all,
  I have a windows NT bug! It is not possible to shutdown a windows NT
system without logging in! It would be useful if the login screen also had
a button to shutdown the system.

I have seen that `being allowed to shutdown the system' is a user priviledge,
and until you have logged in the system does not know if you should have this
priviledge, but I don't think this is a good reason for not allowing
a shutdown without logging in. How about a separate `pseudo-user' representing
the logged out state that one can choose to give `shutdown' priviledges too,
or a global setting?

The other suggestion that I will answer before it is asked is, why not just
log in as guest? Well, apart from the (modest) extra hassle - which might well
be an issue for naive people (say a cleaner needs to turn the machine off -
which is not to say that *all* cleaners are naive! :-) who probably won't
know there is such a thing as a guest user, and certainly won't realize that
this would let them shut the system down - there are legitimate reasons for
disabling guest: If all your filesystems are not NTFS, guest can cause untold
havoc!!!!

I suppose another possibility is simply to turn the machine off, but this
doesn't feel right! (Are the filesystems - even FAT - safe enough for this???

BTW: Why does the system let user guest log in, even when an incorrect
password is given??? *Can* one disable guest?
Another bug? :-)


Martin
INTERNET: martin@minster.york.ac.uk
JANET:  martin@uk.ac.york.minster
surface:
        Dr. Martin C. Atkins
        Dept. of Computer Science
        University of York
        Heslington
        York YO1 5DD
        ENGLAND
From: jbs@Congruent.COM (Jeffrey Siegal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Can I port a UNIX X11 app to NT?
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:46:53 GMT
	<JBS.92Sep10192514@sun1.Congruent.COM>
	<1992Sep12.031057.28256@microsoft.com>
Organization: Congruent Corporation; New York, NY
In-reply-to: alistair@microsoft.com's message of 12 Sep 92 03:10:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.031057.28256@microsoft.com> alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks) writes:

   This is over simple, and mis-leading

I think the message was clear: You can't take a Unix application,
recompile it under POSIX, and replace the X calls with Win32 calls.
You need (usually minimal) work to convert to Win32.  But if you use
fork() and/or signals, the work may not be minimal.

   The system can run multiple subsystems - a single process can only belong
   to one subsystem, but an app can easily be made up of multiple communicating
   processes from different subsystems - the GUI can be written to the Win32
   API, and the guts of the app can be written to POSIX [...]

It should be pretty obvious that this is going to be a much more
complicated port (i.e. restructuring).  Also, not even the IPC
facilities of Win32 are available in POSIX, so it isn't obvious how to
do this.

Jeffrey Siegal
From: woodwort@piper.cs.colorado.edu (Lee Woodworth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: DDK Price too high??
Keywords: Windows-NT DDK
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:55:20 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Distribution: na
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder

>The $500 price for the DDK includes preliminary printed docs
>and the final versions of the DDK (with final printed docs)
>as well. For comparison, the Win 3.1 DDK is also $500 but is
>a one shot deal.

>Question for all of you. Would you buy a CD only version of the
>NT DDK?? Our assumption has been that anyone developing would
>definitely want printed documentation, but perhaps we're wrong.
>In answering this question, please assume the docs are on the CD
>in Winword 2.0 format, and that everyone who buys it will print
>out the 900 page overview manual, plus one or two other 800 page
>manuals depending on the type of device you're writing. Is all the
>effort to print this out (and you must have Winword) worth it??
>Let me know.                                  

This is what I would want.  I don't really have space for lots
of manuals and being able to selectively print what I need
saves lot of space on my bookshelf.  The figures would have
to be included of course.

Since you are thinking of a CD-ROM why not also generate the
postscript files and include them?  There should be plenty
of room on the CD-ROM.

You might consider making a special purchase offer for
Word for Windows 2.0 to those who order the CD-ROM only
version.
From: wayne@jahangir.UUCP (wayne)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Installing NT
Keywords: NT Interactive Unix
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:50:04 GMT
Organization: MDC, NYC


     I currently have a system where the disk is divided between MS-DOS
and Interactive Unix. Is there any reason to beleive that NT and Unix
could not coexist on the same machine?

     I don't have some sort of dual boot scheme. I just change the active
partition.



     - Wayne  wayne@mktdata.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: ronald@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ronald Hindmarsh)
Subject: How can I install NT and keep my bottom dollar?
Summary: Let's try to avoid unnecessary hardware aquisition
Keywords: SCSI CD-ROM
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:32:33 GMT


I want to start with WINDOWS NT on my PC:

486DX/33, 8MB, 240MB Quantum IDE,
Diamond Stealth VRAM 1MB, 5.25+3.5 Floppy.

1a) Is the NT CD needed after installation? If not,

1b) which is the cheapest SCSI controller which allows NT installation
    using a SCSI CD drive? (I can borrow the drive, but not the
    controller)

2)  I live in Germany and will visit New York City in the end of this
    Month. Since I have to buy some additional hardware, how are the
    Prices over there compared to ours?

    Hardware                     Lowest German Price (1 $ == 1.40 DM)
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    4 x 4 MB SIMM 80 ns                               4 x 140 = 560 $
    240 MB Quantum IDE                                          840 $
    240 MB Quantum SCSI                                        1000 $
    Cheap SCSI controller					??
    Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller kit with software             350 $

3)  Is there a NT driver for S3 available yet? If yes, can someone
    upload this to cica.indiana?

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 Institut fuer Technische Informatik
 TU Berlin FR 3-9
 Franklinstr. 29                            Phone: (+49) 30 314-73432
 W-1000 Berlin 10                             Fax: (+49) 30 314-21103
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From: d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: NT Install
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:39:47 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

Today I tried to install Windows NT (from CD-ROM).  After just 10 seconds
after inserting the BOOT diskette, I got a TRAP message.  Is this C2-
security??? :-)

I don't have anything special in my machine, just 486/33, 16 Mb RAM,
AMI BIOS, Toshiba CD-ROM, Adaptec 1542B, ATI Graphics Ultra (8514/A)
and 3Com Etherlink II/16.  OS/2 2.0 runs fine on this machine.

By copying the NT-files "manually" (with a modified DOS2NT batch), and
after manually writing the NT Boot sector on the disk, I managed to get
NT working, but this took several hours!  What's wrong with the install
program?

Mikael Wahlgren
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: act@softserver.canberra.edu.au (Cyclops)
Subject: Re: NT problems with logitech bus mouse?
Organization: University of Canberra
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 03:35:44 GMT

moncrg@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Gregory Donald Moncreaff) writes:
>are there any none problems reguarding use of
>logitech bus mice with windows NT?
>
>NT does not seem know what to do with my bus mouse,
>occasionally i see the hourglass in the center of the
>the screen, but moving the mouse around does nothing...
>

I thought I saw mail on compuserve/winnt that suggested that at the moment
only the uSoft mouse was supported at present??

-- 
Renrut Werdna			Probable-Possible, my black hen,
				She lays eggs in the Relative When.
				She doesn't lay eggs in the Positive Now
act@ss.canberra.edu.au		Because she's unable to postulate how
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From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: Can I port a UNIX X11 app to NT?
Date: 08 Sep 92 05:36:21 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Keywords: port unix x11

In article <1992Sep4.133247.26225@cs.tu-berlin.de> ronald@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ronald Hindmarsh) writes:
>
>I would like to port our CIF (Caltech Intermediate Form)
>VLSI Layout editor, currently running under SunOS and X11, to NT.
>
>The source consists of about 70 .c and .h files (23 k lines).
>Our editor invokes another program, using pipes to display
>its output on the screen. Some UNIX functions I found in the source:
>
>Procedure	"whatis" output
>execv()		execv (3V)   	- execute a file
>signal()	signal (3V)	- simplified software signal facilities
>pipe() 		pipe (2V)	- create an interprocess communication channel
>dup2() 		dup2 (2V)	- duplicate a descriptor
>sleep()		sleep (3V)	- suspend execution for interval

A number of X+Unix apps are already being ported to Windows NT, particularly
in the CAD field. One such was demoed at last Spring Comdex/Windows World. Most
people's first approach is to re-create an X-like library using the Win32
API. The functions you mention above should not be a problem - much
worse would be a heavy reliance on the semantics of fork(), or the
sequential order of handle assignments.

More than 50 applications were shown already ported to Windows NT at
Spring Comdex/Windows World, then more still at the Win32 Conference
in July - so I hope you need not wait in beginning to port your
applications to Windows NT. If you were planning to rely ohn the POSIX
capabilities of Windows NT, then you will have to wait until the
next SDK update, since the July Win32 SDK does not include the
POSIX subsystem

-- Alistair
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT)
Subject: NT and PC ROMs 
Reply-To: rion@Ingres.COM 
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:26:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.193441.21334@e2big.mko.dec.com> cowan@impec.zko.dec.com (Ken Cowan) writes:
>
>  I called DELL and got the A09 (new) BIOS.  It doesn't help.  Unfortunately,
>neither first nor second level tech support know anything at all about
>NT.

This brings up something I've been wondering about:  does NT use the bios
that's in ROM at all?  Isn't that stuff going to execute in real mode?

>They tell me it's beta software and therefore not supported.

Ha! NT isn't even beta yet!


From: mike-b@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Michael Bishop)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:18:41 GMT
Subject: NT Boot Loader Warning - EISA Memory
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32

When the NT boot loader starts running on my system, I get
the following warning message:

  WARNING! - Incorrect EISA memory configuration information.
	     Windows NT will use ISA memory configuration information.

My machine is an EISA machine with 32 MBs of RAM.  Anyone know what 
	      causes this message, or what action I should take to get rid of it?

Thanks.	    

Michael Bishop
Hewlett-Packard Company
Internet: mike-b@fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: mhuth@byron.u.washington.edu (Mark Huth)
Subject:  X-Windows on NT??
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:47:31 GMT


Has anyone seen, heard of, touched, or come into contact with a package which
will "do" X windows for NT?
-- 
Mark Huth                         * Is it too wild to want to get into 
Mhuth@u.washington.edu            * Space someday?
Compuserve 70346,563              *
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: customer support
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:08:05 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <JKF.92Sep8134808@frisky.Franz.COM> jkf@Franz.COM (Sean Foderaro) writes:
> 
> I think that a minimal customer support organization should do the following: 

Thanks for your feedback - I will pass it on

At this time we offer electronic support for free via compuserve, or via a
fee-paying option known as "Online" - there's a higher fee charged for
phone support, and there are many more variants. If you are interested,
please call 800-227-4679 and ask for "Online" information

We are always thinking about ways to give great customer support efficiently,
but internet email is not an option at this time. The presence of Microsoft
employees on usenet/netnews, bix, america online, and others is of their
own valition, and their accounts are for their private use, as they see
fit

We are considering supporting other electronic services, but have no
announcements to make at this time. Usenet/NetNews is on the list of
options - no "vote of support" is needed

-- Alistair
From: dww2@po.CWRU.Edu (David W. Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Reading *.ps files
Date: 14 Sep 1992 22:23:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dww2@po.CWRU.Edu (David W. Woodward)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


How do I go about reading the *.ps files that came on the Win NT disc?  I
can't print them out.

Thanks!

Dave
From: mba@tandon.com (Michael Ben-Ari (mba@tandon.com))
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Experiment in booting NT
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:22:38 GMT
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA

In article <137670012@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mike-b@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Michael Bishop) writes:
>I have one hard disc which is divided between the C: (primary DOS)
>partition, and the D: (extended DOS) partition.  I intalled NT to 
>the D: partition using the dos2nt batch file.  Everything worked okay
>after the installation.
>
>As an experiment, I backed up both partitions onto tape (using a
>CMS Jumbo 250 tape unit), then reformated both partitions using DOS 
>("format c: /s" and "format d:").  Then, I restored both partitions
>from the tape backup.
>
>Well, it wasn't that surprising to see that the NT bootloader was no
>longer starting up at boot time.  Instead, DOS boots up normally.  This
>is because the DOS format command rewrites the boot sector on the DOS
>primary partition.  The NT boot loader has no way of getting started.
>
>My question is:  Can I reinstall the NT boot loader without reinstalling
>the entire NT system again?
>
>And the corollary question:  Can I uninstall the NT bootloader without
>having to use DOS to reformat the primary DOS partition?
>
>My motivation is simply to have better control over my disc drive for
>booting, defragmentation, and the correct restoration of files and 
>boot sectors.

Again, back to CI$.... there is a file that was uploaded in either 
the WINNT or MSWIN32 forum (I don't quite recall which) called BOOTSECT.ZIP
or something like that which will do just what you ask.... 

If you can't find it, I will see if I can uuencode it and email it to
you... Let me know!

-Mike

>
>Thanks for the help.  
>
>Michael Bishop
>Hewlett-Packard Company
>Internet: mike-b@fc.hp.com


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: morley@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Subject: Re: ddk price too high?? (CDROM version)
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:08:55 GMT

In article <716239014.18957@minster.york.ac.uk>, martin@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
> I too would be *very* interested in a (cheaper) CDROM-only version of the
> Windows NT DDK. Please do it, Microsoft!
> 
> Martin
> INTERNET: martin@minster.york.ac.uk
> JANET:  martin@uk.ac.york.minster
> surface:
>         Dr. Martin C. Atkins
>         Dept. of Computer Science
>         University of York
>         Heslington
>         York YO1 5DD
>         ENGLAND

Ditto!

MARK
morley@camins.camosun.bc.ca

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT)
Subject: Re: NT bug!
Reply-To: rion@Ingres.COM 
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:56:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.011624.5702@microsoft.com> johnhall@microsoft.com (John Hall) writes:
>In article martin@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>| Hi all,
>|   I have a windows NT bug! It is not possible to shutdown a windows NT
>| system without logging in! It would be useful if the login screen also had
>| a button to shutdown the system.
>| 
>
>First, right or wrong this isn't a bug but a feature.  We may
>disagree with the desireability of the feature, though.
>
>What if someone has programs (services) running on the machine?
>What if it is a server or control system monitor?
>

I think that you misunderstood Martin's question.  Right now under NT if you are
at the login screen, that means that no one is logged in and therefore
there is nothing going on.  At least I don't see anyway to log out while
keeping processes going.  This being the case, a person is kind of in
limbo, not being able to login and not being able to shutdown.

If I am missing something here, please let me know.

Rion


Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: OLE 2.0 specification
Date: 04 Sep 92 19:47:13 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <SXMRP.39.0@orca.alaska.edu> SXMRP@orca.alaska.edu (Michael R. Platzke) writes:
>It was mentioned on this group that the OLE 2.0 specification was unveiled
>at the NT Software developers conference in July.  I have yet to read about
>this in any of the trade rags or hear about it from any other sources.  Can
>anyone post more information about the OLE 2.0 spec?  Is there a paper
>available on it anywhere on the net?  I checked ftp.uu.net but did not see
>anything recent.

OLE2 was discussed and overviewed at the Win32 Conference in San fran in
July, but the spec was not made public. This will be happening relatively
soon, and I will announce this on this forum. Please do not send me email
asking me personally to remind you of this - simply listen out here -- Alistair
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: liman@cpp.do.open.de (Arnd Liman)
Subject: Re: Looking for NT remote access services!
Organization: Das Chaos schlaegt zurueck
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:15:48 GMT

thg@cam-orl.co.uk (Tim Glauert) writes:

>In article <1992Sep02.211813.14491@microsoft.com>, michaelw@microsoft.com (Michael Winser) writes:
>|> Why do you need remote login in the classic unix sense?  Setup a make (or
>|> compile server) that uses RPC or named pipes.  The server side whould use
>|> the client impersonation API to get an ACE (access control entry).  No login
>|> required.

>Since you Microsoft people seem to be stuck on this solution, I'll re-phrase
>the question:
>When can I get the servers for my NT machine which will let me do what I want
>from my UNIX workstation?
>I would like:

>1) FTP files to/from the NT machine, initiated by the UNIX machine.
>2) List, edit, rename and delete files and directories.
>3) Compile all types of applications.
>4) Test and run character-based applications.
>5) Lots of other things that I've forgotten :-)
> ...

We want to use Windows NT as a workstation in an TCP/IP Network. There is
a server (Unix) and there are clients (NeXT Stations and Windows work-
station). These networks will be used for medical applications.
Actually ther is one modem at the unix server for software support.
How can I do software support to the clients (i.e. the windows clients)??

I *really* need to login to the clients (NeXT or Windows) from the
network to *do* the software support! That's the reason why we do
need remote login in the classic unix sense...

Arnd
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From: mpj@jyu.fi (Markku Jaatinen)
Subject: NT and Lan Manager support ?
Keywords: Lan Manager
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:35:33 GMT

Hello !

I just heard that Windows NT supports Lan Manager in some extent.
I'd like to hear more about this support. Is it possible to make
a NT-workstation to run as an extra server in a Lan Manager network ?

It would be quite handy to be able to access workstations hard disk
via Lan and the backups could be done to Lan Manager's tape drive.

Is this possible ?

Markku Jaatinen
University of Jyv{skyl{, Finland
Internet E-mail: mpj@tukki.jyu.fi

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32