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From: martin@centaur.saic.com (Martin Hobson)
Subject: Re: Twin Bonanza (Was: Re: Long day at the DZ)
Organization: SAIC, McLean, VA
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:22:13 GMT

sparkie@spock.cs.wisc.edu (Mark Horn) writes:
>You meant Twin Bonanza, right?  They make a single engine version of the  
>airplane that they just call the Bonanza.  I've never seen it used as a jump  
>plane.  The doors are curved.  It would be hard to replace them with an in  
>flight door, and probably very hard to fly without a door.

Not only that, but it's an over-wing exit - i.e., you have to step out
on the top surface of the wing to exit. Watch those flaps, guys!

>There are other differences, too.  Not the least of which is the fact that the  
>twin bo has two piston powered engines whereas the King Air has turbine powered  
>engines.  This makes the King Air a LOT faster than the Twin Bo.

Umm - the twin bo has two SUPERCHARGED piston engines, so it climbs like
a rocket. I suspect that it'd give the standard queen airs a run for
their money. Also, there is a variant of the twin bo that had slightly
more powerful engines fitted (I think that they up the horsepower by
about 50 or so per engine) which is what we fly down in Hartwood. These
are pretty rare though; my understanding is that no more than about two
dozen of this type were ever built.

> I suspect  
>that it also makes the King Air a LOT quieter, too.  That is the single most  
>distinguishing thing about the Twin Bonanza: it is LOUD!  Don't even think  
>about boarding the thing without ear plugs.

They're pretty loud, all right :-).

>Also, the rear horizontal  
>stabilizers are only a few feet behind the door.  It would not surprise me in  
>the least if a LOT of people get hurt hitting those things.  They are very  
>close.

Yes - I had the mifortune of watching a reserve deployment take off the
stabilizer on one of these things. Definiteley not an experience I'd
care to repeat. In all fairness though, I've never heard of a jumper
making any kind of normal exit striking the stabilizer. Of course, the
aircraft should be throttled back prior to exit - a lot like the King
Airs (remember the fatality about two years ago?).


Martin Hobson
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From: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry Brumitt)
Subject: Re: weirdest items lost in freefall
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:39:47 GMT
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU
Reply-To: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry  Brumitt)

Well, on my AFF 3, I was wearing a protec, glasses and goggles. 

I lost the glasses, but kept both the goggles and the helmet. I think
they vanished around pulltime, because I definitely had them during
freefall, but they weren't there went I saddled out.

So, if your at Parkman Ohio and find a pair of titanium glasses,
please, let me know.

Barry

ps. Made for a *very expensive* jump: $151 + $300.

<Sorry if this shows up twice -- mail reader acting oddly!>


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From: d6jvb@dtek.chalmers.se (Johan von Boisman)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: WANTED: skydiving songs
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:13:53 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

Yo Hallo,

I'm trying to put together a party song book for our club
(Gothenburg Parachute Club) and wonder if anybody has some
skydiving related songs. For starters, could somebody fill
in the rest of songs like:

---
    Beautiful Streamer  (mel. beautiful dreamer)

Beautiful streamer, please open for me,
Blue skies above me, but no canopy...
---------

I wanna be an airborne ranger,
I wanna live the life of danger...
-----

If a song is based on some known melody, pleased indicate
which one. As always, I promise to summarize and post all
songs..

Hopefully Yours,

Johan von Boisman, A2410   Chalmers University of Technology
d6jvb@dtek.chalmers.se     Gothenburg, SWEDEN
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From: mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: weirdest items lost in freefall
Reply-To: mark@vti.com
Organization: Virtual Technologies, Inc.
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 15:16:39 GMT

drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Douglas R Puchalski) writes:
: I heard a story about a little old lady who had a pumpkin crash
: through her roof at 120 mph and plant itself in the middle of
: her living room...

That's gotta be urban folklore.  I've heard this same story in
many different places.  Does anyone have authoritative documentation
that this really happened?
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From: lrs@cs.utexas.edu (Leona R. Slepetis)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: weirdest items lost in freefall
Date: 28 Jul 1992 16:08:55 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
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Keywords: protec helmet


Was this over Skydive San Marcos?  If so, and you go out
looking for it, keep an eye out for a black leather hat with
green stripes on one side and blue on the other and a Dytter
in the pocket.

Thanks.
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: weirdest items lost in freefall
Keywords: protec helmet
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:20:41 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art,. Athens

In article <25993@life.ai.mit.edu> bleck@ai.mit.edu writes:

>I saw a tandem video at Pepperell where the student pulled the ripcord,
>tossed it, and the instructor happened to catch it in his *teeth*!!  Try to
>do that ten out of ten times!

I caught a guys shoe with my teeth once. Unfortunately he was still wearing
it! (ouch). Seriously though, a friend and I were doing some bad news sequential
once, trying to get 3 points with an exit from 2300' (low clouds). The last
turn was a cat and he broke so fast that I still had his shoe. I went through
1500 on my back with his shoe in my pull hand. I flipped over, switched the shoe
and dumped. He swooped past under canopy yelling at me "do you have my shoe".
He did a one foot standup in the snow.


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From: sh666@selway.umt.edu (Azog)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Mass-Way
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:16:02 GMT
Organization: University of Montana

A hypothetical question for you Sky-gods out there....

What do you think would be the biggest 'way' attainable with an exit
altitude of 20,000 ft, with the best aircraft and jumpers for the job.
Do you think we'll every break the 200 mark?
					     Just Curious,
				             Azog
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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude)
Subject: Re: Lost Prairie
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:52:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.151930.14024@mercury.cair.du.edu> jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu (Jan Vilhuber) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.003905.5537@mercury.cair.du.edu> tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude) writes:
>>will there be free beer every night?
>>tim
>
>Tim. The number and address for AA in Denver is:
>2801 E. Colfax Ave, 322-4440

i called, but they don't have free beer...

>Jan - who doesn't have enough money or vacation to go :-/
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tim
From: bleck@theta.ai.mit.edu (Olaf Bleck)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: weirdest items lost in freefall
Keywords: protec helmet
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:57:50 GMT
Reply-To: bleck@ai.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

In article <76705@ut-emx.uucp>, angus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris McRoberts) writes:

|> I was wondering if  anyone else has lost any unusual items while they were
|> falling at 120mph towards the earth. My roommate threw his ripcord at the 
|> jumpmaster in his level 3.

I saw a tandem video at Pepperell where the student pulled the ripcord,
tossed it, and the instructor happened to catch it in his *teeth*!!  Try to
do that ten out of ten times!

I think a few watermellons and pumpkins were lost in freefall around here...


-Olaf
B15057
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From: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry Brumitt)
Subject: Re: Source for three-axis suspension gadget?
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 16:49:05 GMT
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU
Reply-To: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry  Brumitt)

In article <1992Jul24.003055.5409@mercury.cair.du.edu>
tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude) writes:


   then again, tndem students occasionally hurl under canopy.

   tim

So do static liners.... he landed way away from the hanger, took off
his gear, got in his car and drove off...

				...never to be seen again.

Barry

ps. That jumpsuit needed a serious washing!

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From: jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu (Jan Vilhuber)
Subject: Re: Lost Prairie
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 15:19:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.003905.5537@mercury.cair.du.edu> tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude) writes:
>will there be free beer every night?
>tim

Tim. The number and address for AA in Denver is:
2801 E. Colfax Ave, 322-4440

Jan - who doesn't have enough money or vacation to go :-/
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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude)
Subject: Re: 1st Time Jumper
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 02:29:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.145537.19418@mercury.cair.du.edu> jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu (Jan Vilhuber) writes:
>In article <416.2A72A06E@ehsnet.fidonet.org> SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE) writes:
>>Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
>>Fido-To: jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu
>> j> This reminds me of Ed's place (Ultimate High Slydiving? here in Colorado).
>> j> He advertises on the radio with a "20 year safety record". He also
>> j> says that he's been training students for 20 years. While I don't doubt

>>Hey, would that be Ed Strazdes, or maybe "Skinny Ed?"  If so, tell him I said "HI."  And if he needs a reminder, I jumped with him back when he had less than 100 jumps at Longmont.  In fact, I can prove it by remembering that his 101st jump was a malfunction.
>>
>I don't know his full name, nor his nickname, so I couldn't tell you. As

well, he's not what i would call skinny :-)

>for saying hi to him, I don't jump there. His plane crashed a while
>back and the FAA is trying to bust him: no license to fly, nevermind do
>acrobatics in that 182.

actually the FAA and the NTSB were coming down on him after a local
Investigative Reporter nailed him for the 2nd year in a row for running
an absurd DZ. as i understand it, tho, he got a license and a new plane.
this after he feigned no recollection of who he'd sold his prop and guages
to after the crash (full of students). this was on the local news... one
of the students went on the TV and as i heard it, noone showed any interest
in whether the students were hurt, they were scrambling to hide the plane.
i believe 9 news captured all this. i didn't see it, however.

>>So, he's still around eh?   Hmmm.
>>
>If that's him, he WAS around. I think the FAA closed his operation down
>(good thing, too, if you ask me.. that place is not safe!)

lots of people we know tho learned to jump there, using old round static line
equipment. i'm not sure they ever actually shut him down. he started running
ads again shortly after the incident made the news. and, we saw him (?)
flying on sunday.
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tim
From: bleck@theta.ai.mit.edu (Olaf Bleck)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Twin Otters and Float Planes
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:17:36 GMT
Reply-To: bleck@ai.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

In article <1992Jul29.192906.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsbgf@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
|> Listening to you people talk, it sounds like an otter is a good plane
|> to jump. I was wondering has anyone ever jumped from a twin otter??

What???!!!!  Is this a trick question??!!!

And just how are things in Alaska?

-Olaf
B15057
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From: mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: Fruits in Freefall (was: weirdest items lost in freefall)
Reply-To: mark@vti.com
Organization: Virtual Technologies, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 15:14:51 GMT

jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu (Jan Vilhuber) writes:
: In article <1992Jul30.140957.14561@virtech.uucp> mark@vti.com writes:
: >The contest proved whether the egg will fall faster, slower
: >or the same speed as a human.  What do you think happened?
: 
: Last time I opened my fridge and an egg fell out, it fell pretty damn fast!
: Faster than I could react anyway (had to clean up the mess, too!:-/ )
: 
: So! I vote for faster.
: 
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Any other votes?  Are you all waiting for the weekend to try it out?
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From: mirk@nim.ctt.bellcore.com (Andy Mirkis)
Subject: Re: Lost Prairie
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:07:25 GMT



>one last thing, anyone know if Delta has a policy concerning 
>rigs abord their craft as carry-on?

Hmmm,  It might make the other passengers a little nervous!

-Andy

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From: mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: Long day at the DZ
Reply-To: mark@vti.com
Organization: Virtual Technologies, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 15:11:59 GMT

SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE) writes:
: The only twin beeches I've jumped or flown were B- or D-18s.  I've never heard them called Bonanzas.  ICOCBW.

Come on down to HPC when you're in the DC area and jump the "twin-bo."
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From: jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu (Jan Vilhuber)
Subject: Re: Fruits in Freefall (was: weirdest items lost in freefall)
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:25:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.140957.14561@virtech.uucp> mark@vti.com writes:
>The contest proved whether the egg will fall faster, slower
>or the same speed as a human.  What do you think happened?

Last time I opened my fridge and an egg fell out, it fell pretty damn fast!
Faster than I could react anyway (had to clean up the mess, too!:-/ )

So! I vote for faster.

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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: weirdest items lost in freefall
Keywords: protec helmet
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:47:10 GMT
Organization: University of Denver

In article <76705@ut-emx.uucp> angus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris McRoberts) writes:
>This past weekend, I was doing AFF level 3  when at about 10000ft I lost my
>helmet. It had a velcro attachment instead of a snap on one.
>
>I was wondering if  anyone else has lost any unusual items while they were
>falling at 120mph towards the earth. My roommate threw his ripcord at the 
>jumpmaster in his level 3.

a friend of mine lost a helmet once while we were doing a 2-way. i cracked
up, because it lifted off her head *really* fast! she didn't even notice.
it was the DZ's helmet, but she didn't tell em, cause she found two tandem
rip cords on her long walk back to the packing area :-)

Linda Collison here once lost a sandal, then the sockfollowed :-)

here's a funny sandal story - Alfonz Trone was floating one day when someone
stepped on his Nike sandal which broke leaving only the toe portion; he
took it back to the store and in classic 'Fonz style complained that his
sandal broke while he was skydiving; the stunned clerk bopped off to get 
the manager, who, being thoroughly impressed, gave him a new pair :-)

another guy here jumpd on day in a cow costume, and lost his rubber mask.

and while Charolyn was here, she stuffed a disposable camera in her jumpsuit
to take pictures under canopy. when she got under, it was gone. no idea
how that one happened.

one last thing, there is a video of (i think) Alfonz actually catching a 
tandem students rip-cord. sure surprised the student!

ok, one more, and i gotta pack. i think it's cool when someone under canopy
catches another jumpers free-bag, following a cut-away.

ok ONE more - in the book United We Fall, someone suggests chasing
grapefruits in freefall as a way to practice RW skills. i think it would 
b pretty nifty to catch one.

>
>blue skys
>
>angus

tim
From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Long day at the DZ
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:35:10 GMT

Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
Fido-To: dappel@grafted.uucp

 d> mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith) writes:

> Is a twin bonanza really that rare?  I don't know anything about the
> rarity of plane types, I just remember that  I jumped one down in
> Florida about 8 months ago.

Well, I'm pretty up on aviation in general and I don't recall ever hearing of one.  But being a plane junkie, I'm going to check it out!

 d>      I've jumped several twin Beech Bonanzas. Parachutes and
 d> Associates at Frankfort Indiana has a D-50-C.  The Raeford
 d> NC drop zone has one.  And I think I've jumped a couple twin
 d> Beeches at the Richmond Indiana Boogie.  They were twin
 d> Beeches, but I'm not sure if they were the "Bonanza" model.
 d> Nice planes. They usually take them to 11,500'

The only twin beeches I've jumped or flown were B- or D-18s.  I've never heard them called Bonanzas.  ICOCBW.

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From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Wet Air
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:43:36 GMT

Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
Fido-To: bleck@mobot.ai.mit.edu

|>  b> -I slept through thermo.
|> 
|> It wasn't thermo you slept through.  It was either Aero or Physics.  <G>


 b> At MIT it's Thermo.  In fact Boyle's gas state equation 
 b> is derived on page 41 of Van Wylen and Sonntag.  

We didn't have a Thermo class.  So, not knowing what's in it, I had to go by the name.  And where I DID hear it.

Aero[dynamics?] deals with fluid flow (Navier
 b> Stokes equations and hairy non-linear differential equations), and Physics
 b> can hardly be characterized as one class.  

I didn't say it was.

Every freshman takes at least
 b> "Mechanics" and "Electricity and Megnetism", 

Yeah, and we had a third one called "Heat, Light, and Sound."  Maybe that was like your Thermo?

 b> and most engineering students take classes in dynamics, wave particle  b> motion, and also semiconductor physics.

Yeah, but I didn't get the wave thing.

 b> Would it be inapropriate to ask where you went to school?!

Not at all.  CNEC in Worcester.  And some classes at WPI.

But I the only place I can clearly remember talking about moist air was in my pilot ground school.  And, I looked up the molecular weights etc. in my copy of The Encyclopedia of Physics.  Hence, the physics class remark.


Anyway, if you've ever flown through a cloud you couldn't help but feel the increase either.

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From: esj@viper.eng.ufl.edu (Eric S. Johnson)
Subject: Re: more gifs
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 13:05:53 GMT

>>I have put 4 gifs in incoming at skydiving.eng.ufl.edu, hope you enjoy them.
>
>All I get for that ip address is 'host unknown', Can somebody mail me or
>post the real address? Or the numbers. My hosts obviously doesn't
>identify the name...

Dat be skydive.eng.ufl.edu, or 128.227.116.1.

Ej

The new gifs are in place too.


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From: wain@decoy.uucp (25498-greenhalgh)
Subject: Re: Long day at the DZ
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 00:06:00 GMT

In article <411.2A72A01A@ehsnet.fidonet.org> SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE) writes:
>Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
>Fido-To: dappel@grafted.uucp
>
> d> mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith) writes:
>
>> Is a twin bonanza really that rare?  I don't know anything about the
>> rarity of plane types, I just remember that  I jumped one down in
>> Florida about 8 months ago.
>
>Well, I'm pretty up on aviation in general and I don't recall ever hearing of one.  But being a plane junkie, I'm going to check it out!
>
> d>      I've jumped several twin Beech Bonanzas. Parachutes and
> d> Associates at Frankfort Indiana has a D-50-C.  The Raeford
> d> NC drop zone has one.  And I think I've jumped a couple twin
> d> Beeches at the Richmond Indiana Boogie.  They were twin
> d> Beeches, but I'm not sure if they were the "Bonanza" model.
> d> Nice planes. They usually take them to 11,500'
>
>The only twin beeches I've jumped or flown were B- or D-18s.  I've never heard them called Bonanzas.  ICOCBW.
>
>--- Maximus 2.00

The Beech 18s are 1940 vintage tail draggers.
The Bonanzas are later model tricycle gear similar to the queen airs.
When I was in Tennessee at Tullahoma they said they had just bought one from
the US Navy.

Wain Greenhalgh

H. Wain Greenhalgh
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