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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:03:08 CDT
From:         "Elizabeth Goldsmith,
              Lib. Reference-TWU 817-898-3700" <S_GOLDSMITH@TWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Introductory Internet BI - Info needed

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***This message has been cross-posted to PACS-L, BI-L, and REF-L.  Please
pardon the duplication.***

I have recently taken on the challenging task of preparing an introductory
bibliographic instruction session about the Internet for our (academic) library
users.  The goal of these sessions is to introduce potential users to this
wonderful research tool, to provide some idea of its exciting possibilities,
and to orient them in its use.  The b.i. session should last no more than one
hour and contain a mixture of classroom "lecture" and live demonstration, with
the possibility of hands-on follow-up after the class.

The problem in designing such a session comes from the vast array of resources
accessible on the Internet.  I don't want to overwhelm users (e-mail, ftp,
telnet, sites, commands, etiquette) but do, as noted, want to get them excited
by the Internet's possibilities and give them enough information (through
demonstration and handouts) to get them started.  I have noted an increasing
number of messages on these lists requesting sources of information about the
Internet which can be used in preparing instruction sessions; however, I have
yet to locate suggestions and guidelines about HOW MUCH information should be
presented and the format (handouts, overheads, etc) in which it should be
presented.

Therefore, I would appreciate input from any academic librarians who currently
offer such introductory instruction sessions (or who are preparing to do so).
Please share your ideas about the quantity and format of the information to be
presented in an orienting/introductory session.  In addition, if you could
s-mail copies of any handouts and/or visual aids used in your sessions, it
would help tremendously.

Please respond directly to me.  I will summarize for the lists.  Thanks MUCH in
advance.


Elizabeth Goldsmith
Blagg-Huey Library Reference Dept.
Texas Woman's University
P.O. Box 23715
Denton, TX 76204
(s_goldsmith@twu.the.net)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:14:05 CDT
From:         "Agricultural Information Discussion Group"
              <GILSN2@IRMFAO01.BITNET>
Subject:      New List on Agricultural Information

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To: EVERYONE INTERESTED IN AGRICULTURAL INFORMATION
From:   The AGRIS/CARIS Coordinating Centre
        Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations

      *******************************************************
      *                                                     *
      *  ANNOUNCING A NEW LIST ON AGRICULTURAL INFORMATION  *
      *                                                     *
      *******************************************************

The AGRIS/CARIS Coordinating Centre has established a list for
discussion of issues and questions in the field of agricultural
information.  This list will open to information professionals as
well as end users.  Among the issues to be included are:

    bibliographical, current research and numerical databases;
    information systems, products and services;
    access to agricultural information, particularly in developing
    countries;
    indexing and retrieval systems, and
    any other relevant topics.

The list is:

                    AGRIS-L at IRMFAO01.BITNET

and to subscribe just send the following message (using the tell,
note, or mail commands):

        tell listserv at irmfao01.bitnet sub agris-l your name

The list will be maintained, moderated and operated by the AGRIS/CARIS
Coordinating Centre and the owner is:
    A.I. Lebowitz
    Head, AGRIS/CARIS Coordinating Centre
    Food and Agriculture Organization of the U.N.
    00151 Rome, Italy
    Phone: (06) 5797-4993
    Telex: 610181 FAO I
    FAX: (06) 5797-3152
    BITNET: GILSN2 at IRMFAO01
    INTERNET: GILSN2 at IRMFAO01.BITNET

This announcement will be cross sent to several lists as well as.
to individuals.  Please excuse the duplication.

Looking forward to meeting virtually all of you,

                                        Abe Lebowitz
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:01:05 CDT
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Subject:      Library Automation--Comments & Questions

2 Messages, 49 Lines
1) Telnet Software for DOS
2) Converting M300s to CD-ROM Workstations
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From: Richard Fritz 813-996-3600 <FRITZR@mail.firn.edu>
Subject: Telnet Software for DOS

We have a piece of software that we use on our MAC networks called
NCSA Telnet.  It offers basic TCP/IP connection and FTP
service. This public domain software is produced by The National Center for
SuperComputing Applications at Urbana-Champaign, Illinois, and is
available from a variety of sources.

Does anyone know if there is anything like NCSA Telnet available for
MS-DOS machines? I have seen alot of TCP/IP packages for DOS advertised
in the UNIX literature, but they all seem rather expensive;
however, if there is no shareware available, I would be interested in
anyone's recommendations for commercial packages.

Please respond directly to:

        fritzr@firnvx.firn.edu

Richard Fritz, Systems Analyst for Library Automation,
DSB Pasco County (Fl.)
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From: sales@zach.fit.edu (Kathleen Sales (Library))
Subject: M300's converted into CD-ROM workstations

Since as of July, 1993  we will no longer be able to use
our OCLC M300's for cataloging, we were exploring alternate
uses for these machines.

Our question is:  Has anyone tried to use the M300's for
CD-ROM workstations?  What did you upgrade or change on
the machine?  Also, how has it been working?  What are you
running on it/them?

(Okay, it was more than one question)

Thanks in advance for any responses, I will summarize for
the list if requested.

Kathy Sales
Systems Librarian
Florida Tech
Internet: sales@zach.fit.edu
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Subject:      Child's Garden of the Internet

From: KROHN@ZODIAC.BITNET
Subject: Re: Child's Garden of the Internet
we need clear instructions about protocols and access to lists of discussion gro
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:44:17 CDT
From:         Duane Harbin <DGH@pc01.divinity.yale.edu>
Subject:      Internet Access

Please reply to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Jill

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This may be a FAQ, in which case I apologize for bringing it up again.

I am a member of the American Theological Library Association, which
includes institutional members from a number of relatively small
institutions with limited budgets and technical expertise. It also includes
several seminaries and divinity schools affiliated with fairly large
universities. This has the effect of producing some technical haves and
have-nots.

I am interested in the various ways that individuals and institutions can
get access to Internet resources, particularly e-mail, list participation,
telnet, ftp, and Usenet news. I understand that some Internet sites will
provide accounts on their systems to non-profit institutions in their area
at reasonable cost. I also understand that there are some commercial vendors
who offer access to Internet services.

I have not been able to locate a directory or guide to such providers. If
one exists, could someone point me to it? In any event, I would be
interested in hearing if anyone has come up with an original or creative way
of getting access.

Given the nature of the inquiry, it may be better to respond to me directly,
and if there is interest, I will summarize for the list.

Thanks.

Duane Harbin
Information Services Librarian
Yale University
Divinity School Library
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:42:06 CDT
From:         "Rosalind F. Dudden" <rfd10@csn.org>
Subject:      Re: Techno-litter
              92 10:46 am

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>      Our site throws away over 100 data CD-ROM disks a year; our central
> library probably throws away an equal number of damaged music CDs. Does
> anyone know of a "green" solution to reusing or recycling old CDs? My
> two year old has tired of playing with them...and yes, I saw the fashion
> show at CONDEX where they were made into a dress.
>     The jewel boxes are no problem--a local used music CD store is happy
> to receive empty ones.
>               Jerry Kuntz, Automation Manager
>               Finger Lakes Library System
>               ny0078@mail.nyser.net
>

I have a clock made of a CD that I am sure must have cost $10 or $15.
Maybe you could make some money!
Rosalind Dudden
Denver,CO
rfd10.csn.org
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:47:13 CDT
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Subject:      Reusing Old CD-ROMs

4 Messages, 51 Lines
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From: Betty Jean Swartz <swartz@umdnj.edu>
Subject: Re: Techno-litter
Those shiny CD-ROM's and music CD's are great for crafts.  For
example, I know of one person who used a CD-ROM as the base of a
merry-go-round.  I made a clock (and a month later saw one just
like it in the store - so much for originality!)  Maybe a local
school or day care center could use them for similar craft
projects.
--

BJ Swartz
UMDNJ and Coriell Research Library
401 Haddon Ave.
Camden, NJ  08103
(609) 757-7740
FAX: (609) 757-7713
Internet: SWARTZ@UMDNJ.EDU
Cleveland Freenet: al803
CompuServe: 76011,136
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From: pfa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (PF Anderson)
Subject: Re: Techno-litter
I believe Radio Shack uses old CDs as a backing for a clock face --
you know, hands come through the center and sweep around.

Pat Anderson, pfa@nwu.edu
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From: Corey Murata <coreym@uhunix.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Techno-litter
>     Our site throws away over 100 data CD-ROM disks a year; our central
>library probably throws away an equal number of damaged music CDs. Does
>anyone know of a "green" solution to reusing or recycling old CDs? My
>two year old has tired of playing with them...and yes, I saw the fashion
>show at CONDEX where they were made into a dress.

I have a friend that buys clock kits from hobby stores (they come with
hands and a small motor with battery holder, and can be put on virtually
anything that's thin enough and has a hole through the center) and makes
clocks to give away with CDs that he purchased and didn't like. The kits
are usually cheap and you could make one for everyone in the library and
give them away at the annual staff party. (you do have an annual staff party
don't you?)

aloha,
Cm
Corey Murata                    coreym@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
U of Hawaii, Hamilton Library   coreym@uhunix.bitnet
General & Hum/Soc Sci Ref       (808) 956-2527
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:26:33 CDT
From:         Andre Champagne <G15301@UQAM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: self-serve circulation system

Please reply to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Jill

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3M Canada is working on a prototype of a self-serve circulation
system. The University of Quebec in Montreal will be very soon
a beta site for this station.
This station must be link to your local system and work by checking
your database, the book, the client and his privileges.

If you are interested in more details let me know
and      ...    after "vacantions" I will send more informations.

Andre Champagne
University of Quebec in Montreal
G15301@UQAM.BITNET.CA
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:24:50 CDT
From:         DESK@LUB001.LAMAR.EDU
Subject:      position announcement BI COORDINATOR

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(Cross-posted to BI-L, ACRLNY-JOBS, and LIBREF-L.  Apologies for duplication)

POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT - LAMAR UNIVERSITY


Position Title:		Bibliographic Instruction Coordinator/
			Reference Librarian

Salary:			$25,000 (12 months, tenure track, faculty status)

Responsibilities:	Responsible for coordinating bibliographic instruction
			in both traditional and automated resources, assisting
			in general reference services, database searching,
			collection development, preparation of bibliographies,
			and service on library and University committees.  The
			librarian provides leadership for the Bibliographic
			Instruction program, and establishes policies and
			procedures in cooperation with the Coordinator of
			Reference Services.

Qualifications:		Required:  A.L.A. accredited MLS degree; commitment to
			public service; good written/oral communication skills;
			ability to work effectively in an automated
			environment, including online databases and CD-ROMS.

			Preferred:  One to two years experience in Bibliographic
			Instruction in an academic library; proficiency in
			DIALOG online database searching.

Deadline Date:		Search will remain open until position is filled but
			applications submitted by September 1, 1992 will be
			given first consideration.

Apply to:		Andrea Twiss-Brooks, Chair
			Search Committee
			Mary and John Gray Library
			Lamar University
			P.O. Box 10021, LUS
			Beaumont, TX 77710
			Voice:  (409) 880-8131
			Fax:    (409) 880-2309
			Internet:  twissbrooks@lub001.lamar.edu
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:59:53 CDT
From:         "Peter Graham, Rutgers U., (908) 932-2741" <GRAHAM@ZODIAC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Dial In Questionnaire

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

From:  Peter Graham

Re:  Meckler publication, timeliness, and cost

Those of us concerned with the rising costs of materials and their usefulness
should seriously consider whether responding to Meckler is in libraries' and
their patrons' best interests.  The best and most timely guides to dial-in
access are available through the online services now on the Internet; the
publication from Meckler will be inevitably erroneous due to timeliness, and
will cost libraries monies better applied elsewhere.

I submit to Meckler that they should reconsider publishing this item, or face
the possibility that they will be considered as among those publishers whose
interest is wholly in exploiting the market rather than in providing needed
services at reasonable cost.

--PG, Rutgers University
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:59:19 CDT
Reply-To:     nickerso@julian.uwo.ca
From:         Gord Nickerson <nickerso@julian.uwo.ca>
Subject:      TEXT-SHOW users wanted

Please reply to the author, not PACS-L.  thanks.

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Has anyone used TEXT-SHOW from DECISIONS Software?  The local Community
Information Center is looking for some software to do demos/tutorials/etc
of their Adult Literacy and other databases and they cannot afford things
like Dan Bricklin's Demo Program. ($300 in Canada)

I would like to hear from anyone who has used this program. It is listed
in the PC-SIG catalog as DISK2888.ZIP

Please reply by e-mail. If there is enough interest i will summarize and
post the responses.

FYI: TEXT-SHOW is an ASCII screen presentation program using text files.
Like PC-STORYBOARD or SHOWPARTNER it uses screen fades, seques and special
effects but the screens it displays are ASCII.

tanks
g
Gord Nickerson
Information Systems Support Officer
School of Library and Information Science
FAX: (519): 661-3506
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:42:34 CDT
From:         Gregory.A.Finnegan@Dartmouth.EDU
Subject:      Re: Personal Digital Assistant (PDA) technology

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Lee Jaffe & Eric Celeste hit most of the points I'd have made (and others!),
but Eric's point "No more lugging that
big book back to the desk to jot a few notes, or scribbling on scrap cards to
carry back with you" made me think about a PDA that not only would take
'enhanced'OPAC downloads (or permit wireless OPAC access in stacks), but
would have citation-scale scanning ability for print tools.  We occasionally
see a patron w/ one of the handheld 'strip' photocopies, and similar handheld
tools exist for scanning.  An "Intelligent Bibliographer Notetaker" would
certainly be neat--especially one that could then pull down local call
numbers & sort the file by stack location for easiest physical access.

Just occurred to me that maybe large libraries could sign out PDA's to
patrons to as intelligent stack maps:  do your opac search, download to PDA &
be guided to items, then turn in the PDA at the checkout desk--at least until
all patrons have them?  (We already require students to buy a Mac; when will
PDA's be taken for granted? (We already do this w/ "Walkmen" for audio tours
of Orozco murals that happen to be in our Lib.; why not for our own
collections?)

I had not had much interest in pen-based systems until I saw the Newton PDA
videos at ALUG; the "wow factor" was very high!  I'm trying to figure out how
it'll handle my very illegible printing--and whether latter is so bad I can
make a claim to be a beta tester!  Similar to first time I saw HyperCard
demo'd--sudden visions, not of doing things better/faster, but of doing
things I'd imagined being able to do at all.

Greg.Finnegan@Dartmouth.edu
Baker Library/Dartmouth College
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:39:42 CDT
From:         Nancy Nelson <meckler@tigger.jvnc.net>
Subject:      Dial In Questionnaire

Remember to reply to MECKLER, not PACS-L.  Thanks.

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DIAL IN 1993: AN ANNUAL GUIDE TO LIBRARY ONLINE PUBLIC ACCESS
CATALOGS

Meckler is now compiling the 1993 edition of DIAL IN, the annual
guide to library OPACs. If your library's OPAC was listed in last
year's edition, you will receive a printout of your listing by
mail. If you are new to DIAL IN, we ask that you complete the
questionnaire below and return it by email to Meckler@jvnc.net.
Thank you for your participation in making DIAL IN the most
comprehensive guide to library OPACs.

Regina Rega
Anthony Abbott

DIAL IN 1993

Institition name:

Library name:

Address:

Country:

Volumes in your library:
Titles in your library:
Serials online?
How many?

Holdings symbols:
Network/Utility member (e.g. OCLC, Amigos):

Contact person, technical questions:
Telephone number:
Contact person, policy questions:
Telephone number:

What software system does your OPAC use:
NOTIS
DRA
Innovative Interfaces
CARL
DYNIX
VTLSWinnebago
Data Trak
Follett
CLSI
Other:

Does your OPAC system have a name?

Do you requrie your users to have a particular communications software package
 for access?

Does your OPAC have searching capabilities?
Boolean
Keyword
Other:

Have you discovered any software packages which you do not recommend or which
 present special problems for your user?

Are there any special requirements for dial-in users, such as a required local
 library card?

Are there any restrictions on physical access or borrowing of materials located
 through the OPAC?

Please list access times, if other than available 24 hours a day except for
 backups, updates, etc:

If you OPAC is available on the Internet, please complete the following:
Internet address:
Numerical IP address:
Requires Telnet?
Requires TN3270?

What terminal emulation is required?
VT100
Televideo
TTY
Wyse50
Viewpoint
HP
Other:

Please list your dial-in numbers:
1.Number:
Data bits:
Stop bits:
Parity:
Baud rate:

2.Number:
Data bits:
Stop bits:
Parity:
Baud rate:

3.Number:
Data bits:
Stop bits:
Parity:
Baud rate:

Please describe the logon procedures for your system. Make certain you cite both
 system-prompts and user-responses.



Please describe the logoff procedures for your system. Make certain you cite
 both system-prompts and user-responses.



What are the major subject-area strengths or unique features of the collection
 represented by your OPAC?


Is your OPAC a gateway to a campus-wide or community-wide information system?



What other information services are available on your system? This could include
 locally mounted reference or periodical databases, fulltext databases, campus
 or community bulletin boards, course listings, electronic publications, or
 other information reso
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:46:29 CDT
From:         PF Anderson <pfa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Subject:      Re: Public access software
              Bearden" at Jul 24, 92 9:47 am

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We would also be interested in hearing if other people are circulating
computer-software, and how they justify it legally if they do. Also
has anyone had any trouble from software publishers about this issue?

Our policy is that NO computer diskettes go out of the library.
Very very rarely have special exceptions been made. One of our worries
is that the publishers will be upset. We had one instance of an
instructional software package that the publisher didn't want to
sell to us because "libraries don't enforce copyright." It took a lot
of sweet talking before we got a copy. We post copyright messages
on all the computers in the lab, and are exploring copyright
message labels which could be put on the diskettes themselves,
like the ones you see on videos in video rental stores.

It seems that the publishers' worry is that anyone who checks it
out will copy it. Having seen some of the stunts users pull, I
think for about half of them that's true! Then the issue is
who's liable? Who's the watchdog? I don't know of any academic
computing centers that will circulate their diskettes. They are
all pretty paranoid about what will happen if the publishers
are unhappy.

Pat Anderson
Galter Library
Northwestern University
pfa@nwu.edu
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