HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:11:24 CST
From:         Jorge Picazzo <AL282247@VMTECSLP.BITNET>

>GET  HOMESAT  LOG9012A
>GET  HOMESAT  LOG9012B
>GET  HOMESAT  LOG9012C
  ...and so on.....

  Maybe not of my business.... but what do you pretend to do with so
many logs? have you ever tought how many information does this log have?
By the way... remember this commands must be sent to listserv rather than
the list... Nice try!!! =8-)


J Picazzo

+-------------------------------------+------------------------------------+
| Jorge Luis Noyola Picazzo           | The shortest distance between two  |
| AL282247@VMTECSLP.BITNET            | nodes is usually closed for repair |
| ITESM Campus San Luis Potosi        +------------------------------------+
+-------------------------------------+ If you can't convince them,        |
| Here the fun never ends...          | then confuse them.                 |
| ...well, it actually never begins   |                                    |
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite,rec.arts.tv,rec.video,rec.video.production,comp.compression
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Subject: Re: NBC Artifacts: it's not compression!
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:08:21 GMT


Vidiot feels:

>> The video output needs to be seriously analyzed by the manufacturers so that
>> they can tune up their formulas.

I wouldn't call it a "flaw" in their "formulas".  There's only so much
motion detection you can do using current hardware.  There are no
coefficients in some formula that you can change to fix this.

Motion is very (too) simplistically modelled as square pixel blocks
with linear velocity.  Of course, gymnasts (even the male ones) are
not made out of square pixel blocks.  They also rarely have linear
motion.

There are many other complications as well, such as camera motions
that do not fit this model, like zooms.  Works great for pans though.

It's already quite an effort in real-time to search neighboring pixel
blocks for the closest matching block in order to estimate the motion
in the image.  To do more than this is beyond the state of the art.

There is a definite trade-off here between having better overall
conversion with occasional artifacts, vs. uniformly poorer conversion
with no artifacts.  I'd probably choose the latter since I can get
used to that, but sudden artifacts are always disturbing.

Mark Adler
madler@tybalt.caltech.edu
From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite,rec.video
Subject: Re: IRD blown :-(  Also TV/monitor & RGB query
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:23:59 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

n5pph307.bnr.ca (Bill Hengeveld) writes:
>As far as SVHS goes, the signal from satellite is a composit signal
>(meaning no	
>separate chromanence and luminance signals) so standard SVHS connects would
>yield no gain; however, there are Y/C separator circuits available which
>can	
>split the signals.  Or if the IRD manufacturers wanted to get really slick,
>they 
>could put a high level comb filter separator in the IRD and provide a true
>SVHS	
>ouitput.

	That last was basically what I was thinking of, also I was thinking
that it might get better quality than running composite into an SVHS VCR
(which would use the VCR's filter).  As has been said, I doubt it makes any
major difference.  I know from experience that high-resolution signals have
better edges and less color fringing when used with separate Luma/Chroma
(though that may have been caused by cheap filters...)

>One last thing, for your $250 deductable on homeowners, you can get a
>SATPRO	
>II Plus Satellite Protection system which protects every wire (including
>phone)	
>that connects to an IRD.  If lightning does this to you again, then the
>SATPRO 
>folks will pay for repairing it with no deductables.

	I'm strongly considering this.  I should know later today how bad
the receiver is, and know soon if the LNB/etc survived.

-- 
"Rev on the redline, you're on your own; seems like a lifetime, but soon it's
 gone..."  Foreigner
-
Randell Jesup, Jack-of-quite-a-few-trades, Commodore Engineering.
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Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.
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From: oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin)
Subject: Orbitron Phone number
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:32:23 GMT
Reply-To: oester@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester Mn

Does any one have it?


-- 
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IBM IPNET: oester@rchland.ibm.com                Internet:oester@vnet.ibm.com
Phone: (507)-253-4528 (tie) 553-4528

You are in a maze of twisty little #ifdef's, all alike.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:43:56 CST
From:         Jorge Picazzo <AL282247@VMTECSLP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: British Programming on US sats
              22 Jul 1992 10:30:31 -0400 from <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@MCNC.ORG>

Now we're talking about British stuff...

    Does anyone know of ANY broadcast of the Benny Hill Show on ANY
US satellite? Thanks in advance.

J Picazzo


+-------------------------------------+------------------------------------+
| Jorge Luis Noyola Picazzo           | The shortest distance between two  |
| AL282247@VMTECSLP.BITNET            | nodes is usually closed for repair |
| ITESM Campus San Luis Potosi        +------------------------------------+
+-------------------------------------+ If you can't convince them,        |
| Here the fun never ends...          | then confuse them.                 |
| ...well, it actually never begins   |                                    |
+-------------------------------------+------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: huopio@lut.fi ("Kauto Huopio, OH5LFM")
Subject: Eutelsat fax-polling info service?
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:11:40
Distribution: rec
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed below are writers own.
Peruutus: Mielipiteet ovat omiani.
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

I remeber seeing in Super Channel satellite pages a number for
Eutelsat's fax-based info service..anybody know the number? Does
SES/Astra have similar service?

--Kauto
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Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Tuesday, 28 Jul 1992 08:29:52 CET
From: <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Naughty Dutch Channel

Is it the channel that's naughty or the Dutch ??
From: ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Olympic channels
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:48:59 GMT
Organization: Ian Justman's pitiful excuse for an AT clone

starta@tosh.UUCP (John Starta) writes:

> Where exactly is W4 in the sky? I have no listing of it.

I think Westar 4 is (was) in the slot occupied currently by
Galaxy 6.  I could be wrong...
From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Status of Houston Tracker
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:11:51 GMT
Distribution: rec.video.satellite
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <Brwn1H.Hv4@cs.psu.edu>, bill@math.psu.edu (Bill Conn) writes...
>A check with directory assistance for Houston Tracker Systems in
>Houston, TX and an old phone number (713-784-8953) lead nowhere.
> 
>A friend tells me he thinks they have folded.  He also thought General
>Instruments was doing their repair work.
> 

Houston Tracker are owned by Echosphere, so they would be the first place to
try (sorry, don't have the number handy). The two product lines share a lot of
common design.

If that is not successful, some of the preprogrammed universal remotes have sat
receiver codes preloaded. The 'All in 1' series has some TVRO codes for example
(if you get to look at the book that lists all of the devices it knows and
don't find 'satellite', look under 'cable').

gary
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:16:43 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Free Olympic coverage
X-To:         "HOMESAT - Home Satellite Technology" <HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

>Got this from Compuserve today, should be of interest to rec.video.satellite
>as well.


>Sb: FREE OLYMPIC COVERAGE

>PPV about 250,000, instead of the hoped for 2,000,000.  Daily price has
>dropped down to $19.95.  And coverage will be free on CNBC from 6-10pm
>Thursday and Friday nite (EDT), and from 1-4am EDT Friday and Saturday
>morning.  They will show all three at the same time, with graphics in the
>fourth quadrant.  There will be no audio.  I am not making this up.  Jim



It is in the clear on G5 and F4.  It is insane.



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From: pryack@mtholyoke.edu (Paul Ryack)
Subject: F4R/4 activity
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:28:26 GMT


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From: erik@vcd.hp.com (Erik Kilk)
Subject: Olympic channels
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 19:29:54 GMT

I found the following during the Olympic opening ceremonies:

	W4-09  Raw feed with stadium sounds only. Great Picture!
	A1-14  Canadian network (French). Great Picture. Commercials.
	       Announcers talk too much.
	M2-14  Mexican network (Mexican). Static. No commercials. 
	       Announcers talk a little less than above.

Needless to say, the W4-09 feed is prefered unless you understand French
or Mexican.

Erik
From: john@theus.rain.com (John Theus)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: GI VCRS upgrade question
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:21:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: theus.1992Jul21.172146.4645
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Theus Group; Sherwood, OR

In article <kaufman.711602588@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU writes:
>If you would take the time to read the installation instructions, they would
>tell you that back panels are sent separately, and you should wait until
>you have both the back panel and the VC module before performing the
>installation.
>-- 
Well, I had read the instructions, and I just read them again. No where in
any of the literature that I received does it say that. You say they're in
the installation instruction, but those instructions are in a sealed
envelope that is meant only for the dealer. Even if those instructions say
that, which mine don't, the average consumer would never see it.

The other piece of information that is inconsistent with what you say is the
kit number. The dealer instructions list 10 different kits. The kits are
listed as additional contents to the upgrade package (which includes the
module). Associated with each kit is a backpanel part number and a list of
applicable units. Kit 3 has no additional backpanel. The shipping label on
my upgrade says it's a Kit 3. The instructions say a Tracker 8+ uses Kit 5.

To get to the bottom line, I called GI. Even though their printed instructions
say a Tracker 8+ uses Kit 5, the instructions are wrong. There is no backpanel.
I have to punch a hole in my current panel for the phone jack.

John Theus     TheUs Group     +1 503 625 7387     john@theus.rain.com
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:05:31 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      NBC feedback TO Europe

As netter Joaquin de Prada from Spain found out, NBC leased a Ku link
FROM the US to Europe (NTSC) on Intelsat 515 18.5 degrees West,
11.480 GHz. They send all promos and commercials over to Barcelona
for insertion, and for the remaining time just switch NBC network feed
on the transponder, which is nice to have here for a change.

Wolfgang

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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:13:34 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      Genesis

On August 2nd the german pay-TV station Premiere (Astra) is going
to broadcast - live - the final concert of Genesis' european tour
at 21.15 CET (19.15 GMT). And the best part of this announcement:
they will not scramble for the concert.

Wolfgang

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From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: NBC Artifacts: it's not compression!
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:10:59 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Followup-To: rec.video.satellite
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.video.production, jlodman@cs.ucsd.edu (Michael Lodman) writes:
>Of course it's flawed - you are processing what orginates as an analog
>signal in the digital domain with processing bandwidth limited by
>current theories on video compression and current hardware
>technology. Video with a lot of motion is far more processing
........stuf deleted ........

Note that the cameras ans video editors used by NBC in producing this
coverage are in Panasonic's new 1/2" composite digital line.

   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
  / | |/ ||\|\  \_|\/|_|/|)[_|\\_|  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil
========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
From: monty%roscom@think.com (Monty Solomon)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Olympic channels
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:04:33 GMT
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent

In article <BryM5w.KL9@vcd.hp.com> erik@vcd.hp.com (Erik Kilk) writes:
> I found the following during the Olympic opening ceremonies:
> 
> 	W4-09  Raw feed with stadium sounds only. Great Picture!
> 	A1-14  Canadian network (French). Great Picture. Commercials.
> 	       Announcers talk too much.
> 	M2-14  Mexican network (Mexican). Static. No commercials. 
> 	       Announcers talk a little less than above.
> 
> Needless to say, the W4-09 feed is prefered unless you understand French
> or Mexican.

Where is W4 located?

-- 
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# monty%roscom@think.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: jsimon@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Gerald Simon)
Subject: Re:      Re: Need help in selecting satellite dish
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:14:29 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

I'm also considering purchasing a system and have several similar questions....
how can I receive the FAQ?

Thanks!
Jerry
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:56:11 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Compression artifacts in NBC Olympic coverage
X-To:         "HOMESAT - Home Satellite Technology" <HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

>In article <tlm1.712195270@Ra.MsState.Edu> tlm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Terry Matula)
>writes:
>>>monta@image.mit.edu (Peter Monta) writes:
>>>>Finally, if you have a tape of the afternoon coverage, take
>>>>a look and try to confirm that I'm not off my rocker.
>>
>>I just watched some of the floor exercises, and yes, there is certainly
>>something visible around fast moving objects that may be compression
>>artifacts.  So you're not completely off your rocker. :)

>But is it really compression?  It looks to me more like they're using
>some ridiculously high shutter speeds to kill the motion blur for their
>slow-mo replays, which have been unusually solid.


Has anyone thought it might be only the usual artifacts that come from PAL to
NTSC transfer?  Could it be that NBC is using their announcers but taking the
video from a pool video system, which happens to be PAL since the event is
coming from a PAL country?

Don't ask me, I don't watch sports so I saw nothing but the opening
ceremonies (on F2/03)...

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:07:41 EDT
From:         "Howard F. Speight Jr." <ACHS@ECUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      FTP ARCHIVED HOMESAT

Before I do a GET using LISTSERV on the 96 or so archived files for Homesat
is there a site for anonymous ftp?
Thanks.

Howard F. Speight Jr.  Mainframe Consultant, PROFS/Usercode Administrator
East Carolina University, Computing & Information Systems
Austin 124 Greenville, North Carolina 27858    (919)757-6401
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:47:55 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      Re: "Artifacts" in corners of cable TV pictures
              92 7:48 pm

Phil Howard writes:
>
> roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers) writes:
>
> >I believe those logos are meant to keep other TV stations from recording
> >and using pictures (especially exclusive stories) on their own newscasts.
> >Not only do the ABC, NBC, and CBS use those logos for their nationa
> >(national) news, but the three local news channels here use their
> >own logos in the lower corner of the screen.
>
> I've also seen slightly smeared corners where it was obvious someone had
> indeed stolen the video from someone else and removed the logo.  Those
> logos that have some see-through make this easier but I am sure it can
> be done on just about any, especially if you are going to put your own
> logo overtop the smear.
>
> I notice they are even doing this on the TV news from Moscow Russia.
> --

Well, those logos in a corner are very common in Europe. There are
two reasons for this: 1. identification, 2. copyrights.

With still no general EEC copyright a lot of "stealing" signals
had taken place across borders, from satellites, and even from
microwave links passing through countries.

Some stations do it kind of shy and transparent in the same corner
always, others insert it in a different corner every few minutes by
a random generator, and I have seen even "moving" logos like a
constantly running elephant.

To my knowledge it all started long before the wide use of satellites
for TV picture exchange, when a two-way loop through entire Europe
existed for the Eurovision. The technical headquarters in Brussels
used to put their BBC feed from across the Channel on the loop so that
the technicians everywhere would be able to watch it. Some day a BBC
producer spent his holidays at the yugoslavian coast and to his
surprise saw his own latest production on local TV, which he knew he
had never sold to a place outside the UK. Since then, the BBC picture
had a little square inserte with four question marks for many years,
until the Eurovision loop was changed into satellite distribution
with Sound in Synchs. No program feeds are allowed at all just ffor
amusement since.

Wolfgang


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From: huopio@lut.fi ("Kauto Huopio, OH5LFM")
Subject: Sound-in-Sync -equipment available?
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:25:55
Distribution: rec
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed below are writers own.
Peruutus: Mielipiteet ovat omiani.
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

Is Sound-in-Sync -equipment available to a normal consumer? Even with
plenty of cash? Would it be easy to build a decoder?

--Kauto
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From: oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin)
Subject: Jim Bass, where are you?
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 00:23:16 GMT
Reply-To: oester@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester Mn

Sorry about this more or less personal message, but I have had no luck in conctacting
Jim in the past 5 days. If anyone out there manages to talk to Jim, please tell him
the following message:


Bob Oesterlin (507-288-8734) has still not received his Dish. Orbitron has not even received
an order from Jim for his dish. He would like to talk to you ASAP. Bob is *VERY* upset.


We now return you to your regular newsgroup chatter...


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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: Olympic channels
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 21:03:06 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <BryM5w.KL9@vcd.hp.com> erik@vcd.hp.com (Erik Kilk) writes:
>I found the following during the Olympic opening ceremonies:
>
>	W4-09  Raw feed with stadium sounds only. Great Picture!
>	A1-14  Canadian network (French). Great Picture. Commercials.
>	       Announcers talk too much.
>	M2-14  Mexican network (Mexican). Static. No commercials. 
>	       Announcers talk a little less than above.
>

Just to add on to Erik's post, here are some other places I have
found Olympic feeds.

CTV on E1/16 and E1/24 (but encrypted 8'(  ,  M1/2 and M1/8 (pretty
much the same coverage as M2/14), G6/20 or G6/12 (NBC Eastern Time
zone feed, ENGLISH!!!!).  A1/14 seems to have the best "close-to-
live" coverage of all of them and is my preference when NBC 
is just too-late for my tastes.  

Robert

Robert Smathers   (roberts@triton.unm.edu)   Albuquerque, NM

[This space for rent]. Email this poor, starving student for rates!
From: mstevani@ulys.unil.ch
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: What's HOMESAT ?
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:44:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: ulys.1992Jul30.164456.1
Organization: University of Lausanne - CH (Switzerland)

Sorry if my question is stupid, but as a new member of this news group
I've read news about 'HOMESAT'. What is it ? A kind of listserver ... ?

Thanks

Mauro Stevanin
Universite de Lausanne - Switzerland
mstevani@ula.unil.ch
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