From: Thomas.Weihrich@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Weihrich)
Subject: Re: You bunch of freaks
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:31:42 GMT

rsvanc00@nx36.mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance) writes:

>I got a THOROUGHLY HEARTWARMING response from Neil. Before, I thought I
>was dealing with a moron. Now I know he's an EXCEPTIONALLY LOW-GRADE moron! ;)

I won't get involved into this flamewar.

>Here's his e-mail response in it's entirety:

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>From: "Neil Rodgers" <Neil.Rodgers@newcastle.ac.uk>
>Message-Id: <AA07657.199212111416.ttyrc@newton.ncl.ac.uk>
>Subject: Re: You bunch of freaks
>To: rsvanc00@mik.uky.edu (randolph s vance)
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:16:19 WET
>Cc: neil.rodgers@newcastle.ac.uk, ian.henderson@durham.ac.uk
>In-Reply-To: <9212110039.AA16752@mik.uky.edu>; from "randolph s vance" at Dec 10
>, 92 7:36 pm
>X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
>Status: R
> 
>Limey Bastards Eh? Shut your festering gob you tit. Your type realy make me
>puke with your fake lives and your fake politics, you think were Royalists, we
>think your arseholes. What have you ever gave us? Mcdonalds, big fucking deal.
>And as for your reference for my structuring and execution of the art of the
>Queens English your reference to "Limeys" isn't in the English Dictionary and
>you my foreign friend could not find your arse with an atlas.
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I think it is time to put Mr Rodgers in your newsreader's kill-file.
While he certainly made his point, he does have absolutely no right to insult
a whole community or even a nation.

Mr Rodgers, if you are reading this: please do not bother to send a
follow up or a reply. I refuse to converse with fascists and see
no point in answering any of your mail. 
Please note that insults in public may lead to prosecution by your local
law enforcement agency. 

Mr Vance: please let us not follow the thread of Gestapo and Nazi
Germany. I know about the horrible deeds done by Nazis and I for myself
do condemn any fascist behaviour. There are Germans however who are not
guilty of any crime and who could not choose the contry in which they
were born. These Germans do feel very strongly about mixing up Germany
with Nazis and might feel offended. Although I do not feel German, I was
still born here, and I get irate if called a kraut, nazi or boshe. Please
understand my position, being 25 years old I cannot be blamed for any of
those crimes. Please note that I did not like the idea of a united
Germany and still think that the unification was a bad idea.
Thank you.

To all readers of this group:
Sorry about the rather long follow-up. Keep this group going - the world
is in need of more tolerance and you have every right to discuss these
very personal issues here. 
I'll post an article concering gender dysphoria and handling by the
media and authorities later.

Thomas
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