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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:31:00 BST
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From:         CHRIS GRAY <CENCTG@VAXB.HERIOT-WATT.AC.UK>
Subject:      RE: MS-DOS 5.0 Dosgen Problem

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> We could never get this to work on a diskless (or dos-less) workstation
> using IBM's RPL chips and netware 3.11.  RPLFIX didn't help any.  The problem
> seems to be that DOS5 expects to reload its command interpreter from drive A:,
> and it tries to do that right after loading netx, before control gets
> transferred to the server.  So, immediately after loading netx, it hangs
> with an "invalid command.com" and "system halted" message.  If anyone has
> actually got this to work, I would be interested in hearing about it, too.
>
> Brucea@ucrac1.ucr.edu
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I had this problem, and I know two other network managers at UK universities
who had it too. I upgraded all my diskless PCs to DOS 5 but there were two
(made by Viglen) which would not remote boot DOS 5, RPLFIXed or not. I tried
three different cards and all hung at some point during the RPL or login
procedures. The problem eventually turned out that the boot PROM on the card I
was using was out of date, and ordering an updated PROM cured the problem
completely. (I don't understand why a brand new SMC PROM wouldn't work though).

My recommendation is to find out whether there are more recent versions of the
boot PROMs you are using. If so, get one to try out and if it works, upgrade
all your PROMs.

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:26:17 +0000
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From:         Dale Anderson <ANDERSON@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Problem with Windows 3.0 and Netware 386 3.11

I have a problem trying to use Netware 3.11 on a workstation configured
with a 3Com 3c503 ethernet card in conjunction with Windows 3.0.

I have the card set up to use IRQ 3 and shared memory at DC00:, Windows
is configured to use Netware.  However, whenever I start Windows in 386
enhanced mode it seems to somehow mess up the network adapter.  The File
Manager (in Windows) is aware of all the network drives, yet the machine
locks up as soon as any access of the network is made (even after I exit
Windows without doing anything).  This leads me to suspect a problem with
the network adapter since a power cycle is needed to reset it.

Everything works fine in Windows standard and real modes.  I have set the
EMMexclude paramter to dc00-e000 but this has not helped.  Has anyone
seen this behaviour before??  Any help/suggestions are appreciated.





                                             Dale Anderson
                                             Computing Services
                                             University of Regina
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: ip routing
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:46:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: rhrk.1992Apr9.164627.1055
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany

MH@CSPGCE11.BITNET (MILDA HAMPL) writes:

>Dear Novell,
>            please can I have one question? I thing so. Can I route the IP
>packets through NetWare server 2.20. My situation may be described by next
>drawing.

>Must I have 3.11 or not ? Or can I Econfige some interface card?

This can be answerded with a precise "yes and no". If you insist in
exactly that setup (IP routed by the Novell-Server), you will need
NW 3.11 - but there are alternatives. Given the high costs of
the 3.11 Upgrade (are they high in your case ?) it could be
more cost effective to have a cheap 286 machine with two ethernet-
cards and some routing software. There is such software, which is free
available, although I don't remember the name. Maybe there are several 
packages. 

I have done the according changes to your drawing. The novell server would do
the ipx routing, the IP routing is done by the additional router.

As a side effect IP traffic doesn't put load to your server.

>               Packet drivers & CUTCP
>                 ------------------                        -----------
>                | spx/ipx & IP     |--------|*************| router    |
>                |      net         |        |             | TCP/IP    |
>                 ------------------         | WD 8003      -----------
>                                  ----------|-----          *
>                                 | NetWare 2.20   |         *
>                                 | routes IPX     |         *
>                                  -----------|----          *
>                                             |WD 8003EB     *
>                                        -----|-------------------
>                                       |  spx/ipx & IP net       |
>                                       |                         |
>                                        -------------------------

Hope this helps

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr


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  Universitaet Kaiserslautern,  KIT/IVS |  S-Mail:  Postfach 3049
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From:         fhammond@NMSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Experience with 486/50Mhz servers?
X-To:         NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
              92 6:45 pm

Dell's, Gateway etc. - No Problem!
>
> Both Dell and Gateway are pushing their 486/50Mhz ISA and EISA machines.
> They look like they'd make great file servers, but I heard from one source
> that these machines were too fast for some software, and would lock-up.
>
> I was wondering if any of you had ordered a 486/50Mhz and configured it
> as either a Novell 2.2 or 3.11 server.  Have you had any problems with
> the system locking up?  If so, did you find a solution?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Wade Komisar.
>
>
> --
>                     Wade B. Komisar (wbk3a@Virginia.EDU)
>
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Using SMC (WD) Elite 16 cards with tcp and ipx

>The problem is that I want to do the same thing for the PC's with the SMC
>cards.  I got the packet driver from SMC, and PDIPX from clarkson.
>PDIPX totals ignores the packet driver and complains.  If I skip
>the ipx part and just try to access the packet driver with kermit,
>it too fails to find thew driver.   Is there anyone out there that
>is actually using a packet driver and shared ipx driver with the
>SMC 8013 elite 16 card?  If so, could you please send me a copy
>of the packet driver and ipx driver and any config files needed?
>Brian Utterback
>utterbac@husc.harvard.edu
-----------------
Brian and others in this fix,
        The problem is a simple one: the SMC supplied PD (as shown above)
is BROKEN. I mentioned this a month or two ago on the net. It works fine
with IPX and with only FTP Inc's stack, but it refuses to work with more
common IP packet TYPEs needed today. I spent time on this testing the thing,
and discovered the too narrow range of applicability their contractor did for
them. It should be discarded and pass the message back to SMC to fix it.
Instead use the regular Crynwr Packet Driver. I'll skip the jokes and say
that WD80x3's are about The most popular Ethernet boards out there, and folks
use Packet Drivers by the hundreds of K's. Anon ftp to wsmr-simtel20.army.mil,
or mirror at wuarchive.wustl.edu, or even to netlab2.usu.edu, and grab the
Crynwr Collection driver.
        Joe D.
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Christian

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From: vlad@medeo.alma-ata.su (Orazbaev Vladislav B.)
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Date: 11 Apr 92 06:47:30 GMT
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From:         Glen Jula <julag@TACOM-EMH165.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Blank pages when printing
X-To:         MOSSNEAL@LANGATE.ISU.EDU, NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU

We are getting extra blank pages when we print all documents.  Usualy 2
before the text and 1 after the text is finished printing.  We have
discovered why we have a blank page at the end of the print job but have
not been able to determin why we are getting blank pages in front of the
print job.  I have turned off all banners and form feeds.

Does anyone out there know why Novell spooler sends two from feeds prior
to a print job?

Thankyou in advance

Neal Moss
Network Programer
Idaho State University.

Mossneal@langate.csc.isu.edu

We currently get one blenk page AFTER a print job only and only when
using our LASER JET printer as opposed to an ALPS P2000G. That would
tend to narrow the possibilities to the configuration of your printer.

If not, go into PRINTCON and check defaults.

                            GLEN P. JULA
                            US ARMY TACOM
                       WARREN, MI 48397-5000
                    julag@tacom-emh165.army.mil

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From:         John Lauro <LAURO_J@MSB.FLINT.UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corupt file.

> We had something weird happen here.  On a 200 meg drive a user
> created a file with a size of 880 meg.  It also appeared to
> take up no room on the disk because when it was deleted it
> didn't release any disk space.
>
> Running vrepair didn't find any errors before or after the file was
> deleted.
>
> Has anyone ever had this happen?
>
> Anyone know what happened.
>
>
It might of only been a sparse file.  These are easy to create in
basic.  IE:
  10 open "r",1,"file",128
  20 put #1,30000
  30 close

Just for fun, do an NCOPY on it...  notice how NCOPY doesn't handle
it...


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University of Michigan - Flint             john_lauro@um.cc.umich.edu
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From:         sga <ANDERSON@PEPVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cabletron E2110

>
> Hi Folks:
>
>    Is anyone currently using the latest release of the Cabletron E2110
>    Hard Array cards??.  I installed three of the cards into Everex machines
>    without a hitch.  However, installing the same card into a Zeos 386SX
>    hangs the system after executing IPX.
>
> Any suggestion will be appreciated!!!
>
> Fuad Yatim
> Systems Analyst
> Suffolk University
> Fuad@suffolk.edu
>

Yes.  We currently have eight of these cards and are debating about
standarizing off of these or Intel Express 16 bit cards.  We have had no
problems in Standard(*model*) computers but have had problems in Unipaq.
I believe the problem lies in the Shared Memory on the E21xx board.  Have
you used the exclusion statement in a high memory manager to exclude this
memory from being accessed by other applications?  I am interested in
your's and anyone's findings on this Cabletron board.

Scott Anderson
Pepperdine University
Network Communications
netserve@pepvax.pepperdine.edu
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From: SLENDT@athena.unomaha.edu (STEVE LENDT - C&DC NETWORK )
Subject: Re: 10BaseT spec question
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:33:25 GMT
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In <9204090624.AA06658@techunix.technion.ac.il> CERRLSS@TECHUNIX.BITNET writes:
> >
> > For some new 10BaseT runs we are planning, our purchasing dept. inadvertantly
> > purchased shielded twisted pair instead of unshielded twisted pair.  Does
> > anyone have comments on running 10BaseT over STP instead of UTP?  I have heard
> > different comments from different people, as to how well (if at all) this will
> > work.  Obviously, I don't want to intentionally run problematic cable, but
> > since we have the cable, I pose the question...
> 
> STP will outperform UTP ! You can use longer cables with less noise.
> 
You will have to be very careful to not mix STP with UTP on any of the
runs, otherwise weird (bad) things can happen.  So if your going from a
hub to a punch block with STP it would be worth while to have a label on
or near those blocks to note that only STP wire should be used.
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From:         Glen Jula <julag@TACOM-EMH165.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      finger/splicer.cba.hawaii.edu
X-To:         LIM003@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU, NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU

Hi!  Thanks for all the replies about splicer.cba.hawaii.edu - got a problem -
what username and password should I use?  I tried guest and guest but had
problems; I kept getting a message permission denied whenever I typed anything.

Do hope someone can help.  Thanks!

                    Ju-Lien Lim
                    Western CT State University

Internet: lim003@wcsu.ctstateu.edu
Bitnet: lim_lul@ctstateu.edu

Try
anonymous and (logon)
anonymous (passwd)
                            GLEN P. JULA
                            US ARMY TACOM
                       WARREN, MI 48397-5000
                    julag@tacom-emh165.army.mil

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From: medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: Upgrading 3.10 to 3.11
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:17:02 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

RYAN.NPIH@MAIL.NPI.UCLA.EDU (RYAN) writes:

>I'm ready to do an upgrade from 3.10 to 3.11 and would like some advice on
>the Upgrade Process.  Ideally, I would like to just be able to boot up with
>the new SERVER.EXE then load INSTALL.NLM and copy over the new SYSTEM and
>PUBLIC Files.  My question is, Will this work?  Is there anything different
>enough about 3.11 from 3.10 that would make this fail?  Will I have
>problems with my Binderies or File Structures?  My Main concern is not
>having to do a full restore.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks!

You definately want to do a full backup as a precautionary measure
anytime you make significant changes to your server(s), and at least
two complete backups if you will be rebuilding the partitions.  Though
you will not need to restore the backup as a normal part of the
upgrade, (unless you decide to change the DOS or Novell partition
information) having it nearby will satisfy the network gods and allow
things to proceed more smoothly.

You also want to salvage any presently deleted files that need to be
restored.  The upgrade process apparently clears these files off the
disk.

Upgrading from 3.1 to 3.11 is as almost as easy as you say.  As long
as you've done the backup recommended above, the network gods will be
sufficiently satisfied without the need for any animal sacrifices.
You DOS format a HD diskette for the server's A: drive and make it DOS
bootable.  You then copy SERVER.EXE, INSTALL.NLM and the appropriate
*.DSK driver to this diskette.  If your server requires ASPI drivers
or has non-DOS name space(s) installed, you will also need to place
the appropriate ASPI and *.NAM files on this diskette.

Down the server, insert the diskette you just prepared in drive A: and
reboot.  When you get the DOS A:\> prompt, type SERVER -NA.  Supply
the server's name and internal net number, then load INSTALL.NLM to
copy over the other files.

The only other thing you need to look at is the contents of your
AUTOEXEC.NCF file.  If you have any patches for NW3.10, comment them
out.  You can do this in INSTALL itself (under System Options, if I
recall correctly) or via EDIT.NLM (load EDIT sys:system\AUTOEXEC.NCF).
The user information and passwords will be unchanged.

The entire process takes maybe 30 minutes of swapping diskettes and is
pain-free.  At this point you can either reboot the server (what I do)
or just type AUTOEXEC to execute the commands in AUTOEXEC.NCF.

Good luck.
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                                 Rutgers University Computing Services
                                 <medici@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
From: dobbins@lan.ccit.arizona.edu (Gary L. Dobbins)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: NW NFS assist?
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:22:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: lan.dobbins.150
Distribution: world, usa
Organization: University of Arizona

Is anyone successfully using NetWare NFS who can help me ove a conceptual 
hurdle that the documentation isn't doing me any good on?

I'm having a hard time getting the rights mapped correctly so that the NFS 
client users' uid maps to a netware username, and then provides the user the 
correct priveleges on the mounted volume.

For some reason, if I don't set File Access to nearly every directory, the 
unix user can't traverse the tree.  NFS says that netware rights should 
govern, but simply granting priveleges doesn't work, unless I also use 
NFSADMIN to setup File Access, which tends to shotgun trustee rights all 
over the place.  NFSADMIN also seems to be keeping a secret log of rights 
granted, irrespective of Netware trusteeships.  Does anyone know where
that's kept?

If you're able to assist, please respond via mail...  Thanks.
From: RUSSG@CITADEL.BITNET (George Russ: IRM/Network Support Services(ext.6817))
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: The "PF1" key using Kermit (VT2XX emulation) please help!
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:44:00 GMT
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We are hoping to use Kermit as a solution here at the College.  It
is well written and the authors should be commended.  We have however
been placed with a requirement that all the "PF" keys work as designed.
We have the VT300.ini and this solves the "PF" keys problem with the
exception of the "PF1" key.  We have the a TSR program that fixes this but
it takes up a large amount of memory which cannot be recovered.  Does
anyone have a solution.   Thanks!!

George Russ
russg@citadel.bitnet
russg@citadel.edu
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From:         Praba Manivasager <PMANIVAS@RESEARCH.RGSPS.UKANS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Backups
X-To:         NOVELL%SUVM.bitnet@KSUVM.KSU.EDU

You will not be able to do this.  Macintosh files have a two forks,
resource and data forks.  Using the Dos filing system, you will only
be able to copy the data fork (which will contain the dos filing
convetion of 8.3 characters).  I do not know of a way to do this but
that doesnt mean that there is not way to do it.

I had a problem where my backup system did not copy the mac files
properly because it left out the resource forks.  So when I tried to
restore some files, I didnt have the full name of files as well as
the resource forks.

let me know if I can be of any help to you.



Sincerely,
Praba

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From:         "Matthew Lessins" <MLESSIN@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      heavy-duty printers

Hi.  We're thinking of getting some HP RuggedWriters for our
student access labs here on campus.  Is anyone using them out there
and would like to share their opinions with me?  Thanks...



Matt Lessins

mlessin@cms.cc.wayne.edu
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