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From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: villano_d@sol.rtsg.mot.com PLEASE RESPOND!
Date: 25 Jan 93 05:17:15 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

Sorry to post this to the net.

villano_d@sol.rtsg.mot.com, I don't know your name.  I could not reply to your
email.  I kept getting the following:

From Mailer-Daemon@white.rtsg.mot.com Thu Jan 21 00:37:33 1993
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 23:36:12 CST
From: Mailer-Daemon@rtsg.mot.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
To: <silver@umd5.umd.edu>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Connected to sol.rtsg.mot.com:
>>> RCPT To:<villano_d@sol>
<<< 550 <villano_d@sol>... User unknown
550 <villano_d@sol.rtsg.mot.com>... User unknown

Why can I not reach you?  Why are you considered to be "unknown"?  Can you
give me another address?

							-Adam

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: magdi@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Magdi N Azer)
Subject: Causes of Shin Splints? A theory
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:03:10 GMT


	I posted earlier this week about shin splints, and how mine seem to
occur at the indoor 200m track here at the U of I, but nowhere else.  I have
formulated a hypothesis about this, and I would appreciate any input as to
correctness/incorrectness of my suppositions.

	1)  As I understand it, shin splints results because the calf muscle is
stronger than the muscles on the front of the leg; therefore exercises to
strengthen the muscles on the shin will help to prevent people who are
prone to shin splints.

	2)  On misc.fitness today, someone posted that one such exercise is to
tap your foot 100 times with your foot pointing three different postions a)
inward b) straight out, and (c) outward.  He claimed it worked wonders on his
wife's shin splints.  I tried this, and really felt a burn in my shins.

	3)  Based on my experience with the exercise suggested above, and the
fact that I have only felt this pain ice skating and after a hard day skiin, I
thought that this exercise strenghthens the muscle on the shin (in my case,
fatigued the muscle on the shin) because it isolates the muscle and gives it a
good workout.

	4)  From the logic of the above three observations, I concluded that
the reason I get shin splints on the indoor track at the U of I Armory is
because I am repetitively doing a motion/exercise that isolates the
weakness in my shin (Running on a flat surface).  The reason I only get shin
splints or soreness on the Armory track is that other places I run (Either
outside or on a suspended, banked track) is becuase in the case of being
outside and on the banked track, I am not constantly isolating my shin.
Instead, the motion of my foot as I travel across different terrains helps not
to isolate my shin.  Also the suspended track has superior cushioning.

	Is my logic correct or am I just blowing steam.  Any input is
aprreciated.

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: kenl@origami.cc.bellcore.com (Ken Lehner)
Subject: Re: Cindy Crawford Video Controversy
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 16:21:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.135151.29468@news.media.mit.edu>, alice@media.mit.edu (alice lei) writes:

[referring to Cindy Crawford]

|> 
|> isnt she a seriously competing triathlete


Oh, come on!  Exactly where did you hear this?
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: cecchinr@gehrig.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini)
Subject: Re: Leg Press
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:53:12 GMT

In article <16B61C5A2.TAC@ysub.ysu.edu> TAC@ysub.ysu.edu (Troy Allen Cross) writes:
>In article <-yn3syl@rpi.edu>
>cecchinr@gehrig.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini) writes:
> 
>>
>>As for me, I usually start off with squats using a bodybuilder's stance
>>(i.e. feet slightly less than shoulder width, toes out slightly).  My
>>next movement is usually presses, with my feet touching and placed high up
>>on the platform.  With such a close stance, you shift much of the stress to the
>>outer quad (vastus something-or-other).  Of course, you don't have to do these
>>this way, you have to ascess your own situation.
>>
>>After this, its 3 sets of hacks for the old teardrop (my seriously lagging
>>leg part, sigh..) and then 3 sets of extensions.
>>
>If the teardrop is your seriously lagging leg part, why do you wait to
>your third leg exercise to work it.  Wouldn't it make more sense to work
>it first while it is fresh?  Just curious.
> 
>Troy

Occasionally, I do start off with, and go extra-heavy on, hacks.  But
in general, I'd rather not.  I'd rather start off with the "compound"
exercises (though, hacks are compound...) before I start to isolate.

They're coming along though...

Ron
From: danac@morc.asd.sgi.com (Dana Crom)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Noric Track question/problem/correction
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:46:27 GMT
Followup-To: misc.fitness
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: morc.asd.sgi.com

In article <93022.113615DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu> DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
...
>Here's the problem: I've found that the resistance on the skis varies,
>not due to any change or problem with the flywheel mechanism, but
>simply from friction where the edge of the skis rub against the side
>of the frame. More specifically in my case, it is the outer edge of
>the skis that rub against the inside edge of the frame.
>
>Perhaps this has to do with an error in the way I am using the
>machine, although I'm not sure what that would be, or is just a
>function of the width of my stance on the skis. But I'm curious if
>anyone else has experienced this problem. The previous owner indicated
...
I had the same problem with my Nordic Track (Sequoia model) when I first got
it.  After a couple of days of irritation, I got out the documentation and
re-read it.  What they recommend is to get a little paraffin or beeswax and
carefully wax the *sides* of the skis - *not* the bottoms.  I currently have
over 500 more kilometers on the machine and the problem has not come back -
if it does, another 5-minute wax job should fix it again.

Your idea of using furniture guides sounds OK, but if you had not already
done it I would have recommended the wax treatment first.  The important
thing is, yours is working now and you are using it.

Watch out - it can get addictive!  I am currently up to 4 kilometers, 5 times
a week.  Due to work pressure I have been getting home later and later, and
sometimes too tired to do anything but go to bed.  If I miss more than one
day, I start getting irritable and restless;  I have been known to get on the
machine at 3AM just to avoid this.  If it wasn't good for me I'd be a prime
candidate for Nordic Trackers Anonymous ;-)

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: monster@cix.compulink.co.uk (John Nelson)
Subject: Re: Raw Eggs, Cooked Eggs, etc.         
Cc: Monster@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: monster@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:31:00 +0000

>Group: misc.fitness
>From: bhjelle@carina.unm.edu ()
>Date: 20/ 1/93 21:16:03
>Subject: Re: Raw Eggs, Cooked Eggs, etc.
>Have you thought about whether you should eat much in the way
>of eggs anyway? The yolk is full of bad stuff, like fat and
>cholesterol.
>Brian

  Cholesterol is a precursor to testosterone according to *a-book-I-read* and
eating whole eggs is consequently a good thing.


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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt)
Subject: The fittest people on the planet.
Keywords: balance in life
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:25:42 GMT

In article <1jm16oINNoik@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> laurie@bnr.co.uk (Laurie Constantin) writes:

>It's very sad that bodybuilding and powerlifting can be at both extremes of
>the health scale - on the one hand, recreational body builders and
>powerlifters (and natural competitors in those sports) are probably a group
>of the healthiest, fittest people on the planet.

If you add "by some criteria" to the end, I'd agree with you.

In my book, all-around SpeedSkaters are some of the greatest atheletes around.
Not only do they have to have fantastic speed and agility for the sprints,
they must have huge endurance and tolerance for pain in the longer events.
Every second that they're on the ice they must balance on very thin edges. And
the amount of committment (and strength!) that it takes to "dive" into a turn
-- going 60 to 70 degrees off of vertical -- is simply unimaginable to people
who haven't done it.

The atheletes who compete in the world aerobic championships rate pretty high,
too.

>Laurie, a concerned and drug-free powerlifter.

--phil
From: ab0b@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ALLISON QUENSEN BLATT)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Cindy Crawford Video Controversy
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:52:01 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan26.162107.14339@walter.bellcore.com>, kenl@origami.cc.bellcor
e.com (Ken Lehner) writes:
>In article <1993Jan24.135151.29468@news.media.mit.edu>, alice@media.mit.edu (al
ice lei) writes:
>
>[referring to Cindy Crawford]
>
>|>
>|> isnt she a seriously competing triathlete
>
>
>Oh, come on!  Exactly where did you hear this?
>

Perhaps you're confusing Cindy Crawford with another model, Kim Alexis, who is
a seriously competing marathoner, as well as a survivor of an eating disorder.
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner)
Subject: Re: Who is Penelope Ann Miller? (was Re: Cindy Crawford Video Controversy )
Originator: glex@nitro
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: misc
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:15:56 CST


I think she was on the Tonight show the other night.  She plays Chaplin's 
first wife, I think...  She mentioned being part of a video.  She does
upper arm exercises.  I thought it was a joke.. she's tiny and the only
reason she would be in a fitness video is because of her looks, not because
she "hits the iron" or has a clue of what to do, which is true of 90% of
the videos.. (rough guess)
-- 
glex@nitro.cray.com  === "Difficult tasks are never easy..."
From: james@trapper.sdsu.edu.sdsu.edu (Michael James)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: % fat counting at the gym....
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:11:30 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: trapper.sdsu.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Tammy Woodley (samari@watnxt2.ucr.edu) wrote:


: Yesterday, I went to my gym (Bally's) and I asked for a %fat measurement done.
: I expected the "pinch your fat" method, but instead, they took measurements  
: using a tape measure around my waist, around my upper thigh and around my upper  
: forearm, then they compared it to this chart full of "constants" for those  
: particular measurements, and that told them what my %fat was.

: My question is... is this at *all* acurate???  They figured it out to be around
: 20% fat...   but I can't even begin to guess whether that is about right, since  
: it was the first time ever that I had it done.

: All replys are appreciated. :)

: P.S.  If this is one of those "beaten to death" subjects, I apologize, but I  
: did not find anything in the FAQ on it. :)

: --
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I am in the National Guard (Army) and they use a waist and neck measurement
along with weight to determine % fat.  At the time I came up 26%. This was just before 
I joined the Gym and was tested with calipers at 18%.  I don't quite believe
in the tape test.


Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell)
Subject: Re:Stairmaster Squabble
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:17:32 GMT

Anyone ever read Gulliver's Travels as a kid?  Remember the nasty war
that was over which end of a breafast egg should be cracked open first?

That is what the current "debate" on stairmaster technique sounds like.
  If someone asks for advice, fine.  However dont get religious about
fitness.  The whole point is to have fun and enhance your life.
  If someone does it the wrong way, fine.  It is their money, time,
and body.  If they are happy, that is all you need to know unless they
ask you for critical advice.

Steve R
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: bmoss@grinch.sim.es.com (Brent "Woody" Moss)
Subject: Re: Vanadyl Sulfate (PROBLEM?)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 22:25:30 GMT

MY "freind" (term used loosely here) was apparantly aware
of this problem and slipped me 300 mg of niacin B3 today. I felt like
I had rubbed hot cinnamon oil all over my head and shoulders
for about a half hour. I'm wonering if I'll die quietly in my
sleep tonight. I felt hot all over my body after the tingling effect
went away. I wonder if this would help frostbite victims? Maybe I
should keep a bottle in my snowmobile just-in-case. I didn't consider
myself as a guinea pig, but I guess I am official now. Please don't send
any duct tape.

				Your furry friend,

				MR! Woody
From: dlytle@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Don Lytle)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: The Association for the Study of Play Conference
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:52:38 GMT
Reply-To: dlytle@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu


                         *****   ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS   *****

                                     TASP 1993 - St. Paul, MN
                             The Association for the Study of Play
              April 22 - 24, 1993 * The St. Paul Hotel * St. Paul, Minnesota

     The Association For The Study of Play (TASP) will hold its 1993 annual meetings in St. Paul, Minnesota.  The conference will begin Thursday and continue until Saturday, April 24.  There will be featured speakers, playshops, and forums for the discussion and presentation of research papers on all aspects of play research, theory, performance and behavior.
     TASP conferences traditionally have provided a mechanism by which researchers in diverse fields have the opportunity to share ideas and interact in a friendly and collegial atmosphere.
     Papers and proposals for panel sessions or tutorials related to the broad study of play are invited.  Sessions include, but are not limited to:
 - Humor, laughter
 - Computer and cyperspace play
 - Folklore
 - Children's play behavior
 - Cross-cultural play
 - Body work and play art
 - Performance 
 - Anthropology of festive play
 - Sport
 - Literary playfulness

Deadline for submission of abstracts is February 5, 1993.

Send abstracts (100 word maximum), audio-visual needs, and registration fees  ($60 professional and $20 student made payable to TASP) to:

Dr. Don Lytle
Department of Physical Education
California State University, Chico  95929-0330. 
Bitnet/E-Mail: DLYTLE@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU; FAX: 916 898-4932; 
Phone: {916} 898-6617 or 898-6373 {message}/894-5028 {evening}.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: jmk@cbnews.cb.att.com (joseph.m.knapp)
Subject: Re: More on max heart rate
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:32:02 GMT

2fvofloppy@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>I've also seen both formulas as acceptable.  I think that if you do some 
>calculations (based on a resting heart rate), that it's pretty similar.  
>But, then if you aren't in great health, the heart rate formula is supposed 
>to be better (it allows for a higher heart rate resting and a lower max 
>heart rate if I'm not mistaken).  Anyway, I've always seen the target range 
>from 65-80%.  I believe that 90% is too high, and that you would eventually 
>overtrain if you constantly worked out at 90% max heart rate.
>-- 
>Jeffery D. Webb

I've been using a treadmill a lot lately along with a pulse monitor.
That seems to be a good way of finding out your max heart rate empirically:
just increase the work load until you see that the heart rate increase
starts slowing down and you're getting close to exhaustion. This isn't
too dangerous is it? Anyway, I've only tried to max out a couple of times
and the max for me appears to be around 178. At age 37, this is pretty
close to the 210 minus age formula. For normal workouts, I like to keep
it in the 158-162 range for 30 minutes. This is about 90%, but any lower
doesn't seem like that much of a workout. Actually, the pulse rate goes
from more like 140 (~80%) a few minutes into the exercise and gradually
builds up to 160 towards the end of the half-hour. Works for me. Training
at 65% -- pulse rate 115 -- would make me feel like a geriatric case!

---
Joe Knapp   jmk@cbvox.att.com
From: agrawal@alicudi.usc.edu (Amitabh Agrawal)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Re: Cindy Crawford Controversy
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:44:59 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: misc
NNTP-Posting-Host: alicudi.usc.edu


In article <1993Jan26.201311.22270@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
   An old SO of mine stood about 5'8" and weighed about 130. She had the typical
   thin-person-physique of long-arms, long-legs, long-neck, and relatively
   short, narrow torso. My first visual impression of her was that she could
   stand to gain some weight. In all fairness, that is the same first impression
   that folx have upon seeing me, as I have that same type of long-limbed physique.My old SO was nowhere near being big-boned, but she could easily have packed
   5-10 ponds more weight on her frame if she were to develop her upper body
   to the same standard as her lower body. You see, she had _great legs_,
   all the way up to her ever-so-shapely hips, as a result of ballet training
   as a youth. She was more-than-a-little fit, and quite a bit stronger than
   she looked. She sported a 26" waistline, w/o any special training, and as
   such, she was one of the very few women that I have dated who had a waistline
   smaller than my own. She was also one of the few women that I had ever met
   who could keep pace with me on a bike. Anyway, she was slim, shapely, and firm
   at 5'8" and 130 lbs. I can scarcely imagine her being 10 lbs. lighter w/o
   looking boney.

   I met a woman this summer who was an aspiring powerlifter and recreational/
   fitness cyclist. She was slim, trim, firm and shapely at 5'6" and 140. Her
   waistline had to be less than 25". She was the only woman that _I've_ ever
   met (and I know that others exist) who could do chin-ups. She could also
   bench better than bodyweight. I wonder how much Flo-Jo weighs in "olympic"
   trim, or off-season. I will lay odds that it is quite-a-bit more than 120.

   To make a long story short, I agree with Janet...... most emphatically!

   Keith R

Shouldn't this be going to alt.romance... :-)

I like your choice in women... :-)

Amit
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: paul@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM (Paul Fidler)
Subject: Re: The fittest people on the planet.
Keywords: balance in life
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:45:39 GMT

In article <C1Hnyw.5zy@csn.org> pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
>In article <1jm16oINNoik@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> laurie@bnr.co.uk (Laurie Constantin) writes:
>
>>It's very sad that bodybuilding and powerlifting can be at both extremes of
>>the health scale - on the one hand, recreational body builders and
>>powerlifters (and natural competitors in those sports) are probably a group
>>of the healthiest, fittest people on the planet.
>
>If you add "by some criteria" to the end, I'd agree with you.
>
> [Details about speedskating deleted...]
>
>
 
I think you're confusing "healthy" and "fit" with athletic ability.


The speedskating has much more to do with the latter, the former is simply
speaking to issues such as fat/lean/bone bodyweight issues, favorable
metabolic rate, stuff like that.



......................................... Paul Fidler .................
"Please consult your physician            NCR Corporation, Columbia, SC
 before exercising with Lee Haney"        paul@clodii.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: wkulecz@life.jsc.nasa.gov (Walter B. Kulecz, Ph.D)
Subject: Re: Help with shoulder
Followup-To: misc.fitness
Organization: KRUG Life Sciences
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:31:15 GMT

In article <C16A4C.7wD@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jl52800@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The
Incredible Mr.Wong) wrote:
> 
> I dislocated my shoulder a few weeks ago, and I was wondering if there were 
> any excercises I could do to rehab it. Also, is there anything I can do to 
> prevent it from happening again so easily? (This was the 4th time I've dislocated the damn thing.

I dislocated my sholder about 13 years ago (two inch gap between ball and
socket visible on Xray) and have had no problems since then.  Except it
ended my rugby playing and was two years until I could throw overhand
without pain.  My ortho said if I could go two or three years without
re-dislocation I would probably have no problems.  He seems to have been
correct in my case, but I changed my activities.

Since this is your fourth dislocation, your prognosis is poor, you've
stretched the connective tissues that hold the ball in the socket to the
point they will probably never shrink enough to prevent it from happening
again.  If you're young enough you may be able to recover.  Seek
professional advice.

I've a friend whose shoulder was so loose he could pop it in and out at
will and would pop it out by throwing a baseball.  It is claimed that
Houdini could do this with both shoulders and was the basis of his escape
from a straight jacket tricks.
From: lott@egr.msu.edu (Jennifer Lott)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Who is Penelope Ann Miller?
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:05:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Division of Engineering Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: tame.egr.msu.edu

Wasn't she also in "Kindergarten Cop"?

Jennifer
Newsgroups: misc.fitness