From: tonyf@rm1.interlan.com (Tony Fernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SEC shoots itself in the foot
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:10:51 GMT
Organization: Racal-Milgo, Sunrise, Florida

In article <1992Nov11.155535.11927@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>In article <402@rd1.interlan.com>, tonyf@rd1.interlan.com (Tony Fernandez) writes:
>|> In article <1992Nov5.182357.3295@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>
>|> As for it being relevant, it refers to a comment you made in the post I was
>|> replying to (since deleted) in which you claimed that Miami didn't join the
>|> SEC because they wanted to join a conference they could dominate.  That 
>|> point was given to show that the SEC is not any tougher than the BE.  
>
>    I simply raised the logical question in response to the still 
>unsubstantiated position that the SEC didn't want Miami.  Did Miami want in the
>SEC?  Another question yet to be answered.
>

Let's see if we can agree on this:  The SEC invited Arkansas before Miami
even considered joining a conference.  They only had one spot left and they
wanted FSU for that spot.  In the meantime Miami was looking elsewhere to
the Big East and ACC since they didn't expect the SEC to invite them.  By
the time FSU decided to go to the ACC, Miami was pretty much decided on the
Big East.  It was a matter of bad timing, if the SEC had asked earlier,
Miami would have probably accepted.  However, by the time the SEC started
to show some interest it was too late.  

>|> >Where are the facts?  Has Miami tried to play Alabama in a home and
>|> >home series?  I honestly don't know but, as I indicated before, I
>|> >seriously doubt that Alabama would have declined.  Why should a
>|> >school with the tradition of Alabama refuse to play an upstart?
>|> 
>|> They are afraid of losing?  Sorry, couldn't resist.
>
>    You obviously missed my post containing the win/loss record between the two
>teams.  They have met 14 times and Alabama is 11 - 3 against Miami.  Miami won 
>in 1954, 1955, and 1990.  As I also stated there, they did have a home and home
>series.  It is rather hard to believe that Alabama would have cancelled that
>since we have so thoroughly dominated it.

No, I didn't miss it.  I just didn't think that just because Alabama
dominated Miami 20 to 30 years ago would have any bearing on how they
would play today.

>    Absolutely no argument there.  But, as I said before, playing 8 SEC games 
>per year does not provide any "breathers".  We must go outside the conference 
>for those.

That was my original point.  The SEC won't play tough out of conference
games.  

>|> 
>|> If Alabama is undefeated, and Miami is invited to the Sugar Bowl they will
>|> be there.  
>
>    Well, I am relieved to hear that from a reliable source in the university's
>athletic department.  For what it is worth, I expect them to be there if both
>remain undefeated.
>

Well, I got my information from the Bowl Coalition rules which say that
a team can not pass on a game that would match #1 against #2 just like 
the bowl with the #2 team has to invite #1.  And even if they could, I don't
think Miami would.

>--
>Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com  or  ...uunet!ingr!b11!mspe5!guy
>   *** A hurricane is a seasonal thing.  The Tide is forever.  ***

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