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From: asif@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Cowboys/Eagles will be a tough one
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:31:11 GMT

Cowboys Eagles game, my thoughts.
================================

This will be a tough ball game for both the teams. For Dallas the key will be
stopping the run , Sherman looked good against New Orleans. It will be good for
Dallas if Haley can get some penetration on third down passing situations. For
Eagles, they have to STOP Emmitt, both as a runner and a receiver in the back
field. Emmitt can be dangerous on a one on one situation in the back field.
Randall will have to scramble succeessfully and not fumble the football. 	
think the game will be decided on who turns the ball over more than the other.
Kicking game will be important. Maybe the game will be decided late fourth
quarter on a Elliot field goal or a Sikahema punt return, who knows.

As a Dallas fan I would have liked to see Minnesota or Redskins in Texas
Stadium over the Eagles. Not because I am scared of Eagles or anything but
because these two teams match up very well. Both Dallas and Eagles will have to
be at the top of their games to be succeessful this Sunday. We are very excited
here in Dallas about our cowboys and we hope they win this weekend. Good luck
to both the teams. May the best team win.

Asif Ibrahim
Denton, Tx.                                            GO COWBOYS
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: SNL Superfans abandon da Bears in wake of Ditka firing
Date: 11 Jan 1993 10:09:40 -0500
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In article <104202@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
>
>The skit also included a cameo from Ditka himself, who (among his other
>lines) announced the "start" of the show by delivering the "Live from
>New York: It's Saturday Night!" line.

Does anyone have a tape of this?  I didn't have any blanks to tape it,
and was out and unable to watch it.

Steve Mansfield                   Junior AlterNet Engineer 
smm@uunet.uu.net                  uunet!smm
From: meskes@ulysses.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Meskes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Who's Hamish?!?!
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:11:10 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
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wesloskij@kirk.msoe.edu writes:

>king, that's why the Europeans want it, that's why the Japanese want it, 
>that's why the Germans want it and so on.

Hey, when did Germany leave Europe? :-)
BTW I think you're right. There are a lot of people in Germany who like
football and those who don't like it mostly don't know it really. But that's
not only their fault. We got some NFL reports on TV and in one of them
the commentatory said that football is similar to boxing. No joke.

Michael
-- 
Michael Meskes, Lehrstuhl fuer angewandte Mathematik insb. Informatik,
RWTH-Aachen, Ahornstr. 55, D-W-5100 Aachen, Germany
Email: meskes@ulysses.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
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From: johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe)
Subject: Re: Greatest Moment (was: BILLS BILLS BILLS BILLS!!! YEEEEEEEAAAAAA!!!!!)
Reply-To: johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped)
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
	<1993Jan4.174932.18395@pdn.paradyne.com>
	<1993Jan4.200458.5078@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:23:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.200458.5078@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
   In article <1993Jan4.174932.18395@pdn.paradyne.com> lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:
   >In article <1993Jan3.220850.19849@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:

   >>  THE BEST MOMENT IN BUFFALO BILLS HISTORY TO DATE!!!!

   >Uh, until they win another title, I will vote for the Bills'
   >AFL title win in the mid-60's with Jack Kemp as their finest
   >franchise moment.
   >
   >Which event would y'all vote for as "the greatest moment" in
   >your favorite franchise's history?

   I bet most Niner fans will disagree, but after beating the Bowboys
   in the '81 NFC title game, the Big Dance, as well as the other
   Big Dances, was anticlimactic.

in fact, i would bet that this might be the case for fans of several teams.

- green bay beating dallas in the ice bowl, greater than either super blow
  or any of their other fairly runaway nfl championships of the 60s.

- washington beating dallas for the nfc championship in '72, greater in some
  ways than their initial super bowl victory in a strike shortened '82
  season, greater than their second super bowl victory in a strike shortened
  '87 season, and greater than their third super bowl victory, which was
  almost expected based on previous super bowl performances.  and greater in
  some ways than the championships of the late '30s.

- pittsburgh beating dallas/"america's team" in the '76 super bowl, with
  their red-white-and-blue stripe on the helmet, etc.  being greater than
  their super bowl of the previous year, or subsequent super bowls.

- detroit blowing out dallas in last year's playoff, rivaling some of the
  championship seasons of the 50s.

- even chicago blowing out dallas 44-0 in dallas at the end of the '85
  season, the rest of the playoffs and super bowl being a denouement to
  this exhibition of release of years of frustration at looking up at
  the cowboys from below.

a lot of people hate dallas for a reason, and beating them in a big game in
a big way means a lot.

   -- 

   Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
   SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
   Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974

-johndoe
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: Unlikely Hero: Brian Mitchell
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:32:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.052021.8064@ne3005.reston.ingr.com> scott@ne3005.reston.ingr.com (Scott Gentry) writes:
>jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>
[ other text deleted ]
Next week against S.F. it's going to be
>one hell of a ball game.  
>
DITTO! DITTO!

>Prediction:  If Young hasn't moved the niners by the
>second possesion of the second half, Montana will trot
>out.  
>
I don't think so! You saw what Cunnigham and Reich did
this past weekend. YOUNG is capable of pulling it
out in the second half if they are done 30+ points. IMHO, the 
only scenario of Montana trotting out to the field is under two 
possibilities:

	1. Young is injured
	2. The score is 35-3 and there is only 4 minutes left
	   in the game. :-)

Scenario #1 is the most likely. :-)

>I want the 'skins to win against SF but _if_ Montana
>comes out, with the SF crowd, it's going to be like 
>opening night in Dallas.  That said, I want NOTHING
>more than a hot-to-trot Redskin team to come to
>Texas Stadium in two weeks.  
>
I want the Niners to win and so is everyone that is a Niners
fan. DUH! :-) That said, I want nothing more than to have
the Cowboys trot into to Candlestick to play football in
a real football field. :-)  DROOOOOLLLLLL!

-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
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From: obert@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Carl Obert)
Subject: Re: LIST OF FRUSTRATIONS.
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 18:43:54 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <C0GB3L.5A9@ns1.nodak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan ) writes:
|> Here is a Category-wise list of Team of Frustrations. Corrections
|> are welcome from fans of other teams and I will post a revised list.
|> 
|> A) HAVE BEEN TO THE SUPER-BOWL BUT NEVER WON IT
|> ------------------------------------------------
|> 1) Vikes ... 0-4  
|> 2) Broncos   0-4
|> 3) Bengals   0-2
|> 4) Bills     0-2
|> 5) Patriots  0-1
|> 6) Rams      0-1
|> 7) Eagles    0-1
|> -------------------------------------------------
|> Categories below are teams who have never even been to a Super Bowl
|> B) HAVE NEVER WON A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP
|> --------------------------------------------------
|> 1) Browns    0-2
|> 2) Oilers    0-1
|> 3) Lions     0-1
|> 4)Additions are welcome
|> ---------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> C) HAVE NEVER WON A PLAYOFF GAME
|> ----------------------------------------------------
|> 1) Saints     0-3
|> 
|> D) HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A PLAYOFF GAME
|> ---------------------------------------------------
|> 1) Tampa Bay
|> 2) Sea-Hawks
|> 
The Cleveland Browns chamionship game record shown above is worse than that!  In 1968, the Browns lost
to the to Baltimore Colts coached by Don Shula who in turn lost to Broadway Joe's NY Jets.  That
year, the championship game was in Cleveland. In 1969, the Browns again lost the chance to go to the
Super Bowl in the championship game to the Vikings at the old Met Stadium in Bloomington.  Real cold
day if I remember right.  The Vikes were led by Joe Kapp who in turn lost to Hank Stram's Chiefs in the
big show.  Then of course came the two last minute Denver losses under Shottenheimer (sp?) and last but
not least, the loss to Denver when Bud Carson took over the team after Marty left for Kansas City.  

0-5.  Always a bridesmaid, never the bride.

BUMMER. Real BUMMER.
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From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: USENET Draft
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:18:20 GMT
Reply-To: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: misha.central.sun.com


Since last year the r.s.basketball mock draft went so well,  I 
am thinking of organizing a USENET football draft. To do this, 
I need general managers for every team.  Please email me 
if you are interested in being a GM & for what team.  The only
one taken in the Chicago Bears.

The draft will be only 1 round,  hopefully it will start in 
early March (after the Indy combines).   More if there is enough 
interest.

   
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Andy Knipp                    |
Sun Microsystems              | The secret to success is sincerity,
Chicago Loop District         | once you can fake that,  you have it made.
andy@sunloop.central.sun.com  |
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Randall Cunningham Sucks
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:22:09 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <your-email-addr-110193151927@microlab10.med.upenn.edu> your-email-addr@a1.mscf.upenn.edu (Ed Rendell) writes:
>
>Randall really sucks giant donkey dick.  He should spend less time trying

At the risk of sounding like a Randall supporter, let me intercede here:
Cunningham is a pretty good QB but he tries too often to do it all.  Back
in 1990, he acounted for about 90% of Phillys total offense (he threw
for 3000+ yards, 30 TDs, rushed for 942 yards and 5 TDs) but there wasn't
a need for him to do it all this year.  

He also ain't exactly drinking buddies with the rest of the team so one 
wonders to what extent that affects their play.  I remember Randall and
his O line having some verbal exchanges earlier this year so maybe some
amount of spite is involved with their less than brilliant performance in
the later part of the season (in the early part of the year, they looked
great).

>to be a talkshow host and more time studying the playbook.  He's a
>celebrity here.  His own candy bar (cost $1.00), his own T.V. talk show and

As for the TV show, there are many major sports stars that have one and as 
long as there is an audience for this why the heck not?

As for the candy bar, there was a local joke: "The Randall bar, you open it
up and it tells you how good it is".  Well for $1 each, I don't think there'll
be many takers.

>a big contract. All that is fine if he could play football.  Here in Philly
>it's a sin to criticize Randall because you're accused of being a bigot. 

I've heard the same from other folks as well. Go figure...

>Everyone has got other reasons why the Eagles went down in flames.  Face
>it..
>   RANDALLL SUCKS

Well, it will be interesting to see how the team does after the collective
bargaining agreement takes its tolls.
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: Steve Young bashing
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:59:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.230117.14321@ods.com> richard@ods.com (Richard Thompson) writes:
>Gary Beason (bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:
>
>: First, let me clarify that I am a Cowboy fan and that what I have to
>: say has nothing to do with my wanting to see Dallas face a lesser
>: quarterback next Sunday.
>
>: Now, I can't believe the criticism that Young has received from 9er
>: fans on this group.  One game, in one game, he fumbles more than he
>: has the whole season (if I'm not mistaken).
>         .                  .
>         .                  .
>         .                  .
>: Young is a great qb; he deserves to be the starter, not Montana,
>: because you have to look at where they are now.  Sure Joe played a
>: half and looked, but SF was winning for one and, two, Joe intimidated
>: a patsy team.  Joe has been out there working with the team like Young
>: has.  He doesn't have Young's mobility--so very important vs. a
>: *young* aggressive Dallas rush.
>
>: Be careful what you wish for--you may get it.
>
>
>I totally agree.  All the fucking belly-aching about how Young sucks.
>I wish they they would have traded him at the beginning of the year,
>so they could watch Bono stink up the place.  Or Musgrave.  How much
>better can you get than the top-rated passer in the NFL, 
>Offensive Player Of The Year, etc.
>
>I think they realize that the Cowboys are no Redskins.  Their worst
>nightmare has come true, the Cowboys are coming to town.  They

Actually, not true!  The 49ers have beaten EVERY other NFC
playoff team and have not lost to any of them.  The only one
left is Dallas.  And believe me, the 49ers want them!

>didn't want 'em, but they got 'em.  And they know that the Dallas
>Defense is going to be their No. 1 offense's toughest test to date.

This may be true that it is our toughest test to date.  Might it
be also said that it will be Dallas' defense's toughest test?

>So they are setting themselves up with an excuse, "We got beat because
>Steve Young sucks, if Montana would've played..."; You can smell
>that shit from a mile away.  I can't wait 'til Sunday!

Neither can we.  Go 49ers!

>
>Go Cowboys!
>
>
>-- 
>Richard Thompson
>richard@ods.com
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: More Eagles/Cowboys stuff
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:40:22 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <3258@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writ
es:
>In article <1993Jan6.161112.3256@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (p
eter.r.clark..jr) writes:
>>In
>>the first Dallas/Eagles game, I said before hand that Novacek was the
>>key. That Smith and Irvin would be neutralized, and they were, but
>>Novacek scared me. Get a film of that game, and you will see Novacek
>>take a few hits from Waters in the first 1/2, and then in the second
>>1/2 you'll see him single handedly kill drives by dropping balls in
>>his hands. Then look at the second game. No more alligator arms.
>
>Novacek killed at least two first-half drives with 3rd down drops, and
>IMHO was the main reason the game was only 3-0 at that time, not 14-0
>or 17-0.  He was weak the entire first half of the year.  Fortunately,
>he has regained the sure hands that got him to the Pro Bowl last (and
>this) year.

He washed his hands and couldn't do a thing with them!  (Joke, joke!)


>
>Daniel Welch
>
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From: kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius)
Subject: Re: Analysis of Eagles vs Cowboys 
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:48:29 GMT

douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit) writes:
>kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius) writes:
>>douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit) writes:
>>>epc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Merlin) writes:
>>Okay, real slow now: when preparing for the upcoming game, which tape would
>>_you_ study the most.

>Okay, real slow now:
>   1)  Something happens 2 months ago, but yet as of today it never has 
>       happended ?

Try: something happened two months ago so let's learn from it and take
	steps to avoid it in the future.

>   2)  
>       a)  Studying a tape does not == correcting everything that happened in
>           that game.  Dallas will also be studying tapes you know.

I absolutely agree, and I bet JJ comes out with a short passing game to
	set up the run later.  If Emmitt has over, say, 70 yards in the
	first half, the Eagles will be out of it unless they have put
	a bunch of quick points on the board.  For this reason alone,
	Philly has got to stop the run first, hopefully while putting
	pressure on Aikman.

Try it another way: if Emmitt got 160 yards against the #3 defense, he 
	surely got over 200 for the rest of the games this year, right?

>	      Meeting n:    Philly beats Dallas.
>	      Meeting n+1:  Dallas beats Philly.
>	      Meeting n+2:  Philly beats Dallas.
>	      Thats the way it works right ?  They watched the tapes ?

Well, I think there is something to this, but only because it favors my
team.  I think it is definitely easier to correct a mistake than to
anticipate a change of strategy.  But then again, Johnson is a better 
coach than Kotite, I'm sure you'll agree.
--
Kevin Schnitzius                         Eagles -- Not America's Team, 
kschnitzius@encore.com                             they're better than that.
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: JGH Computer Rankings
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  9 JAN 93 10:04:19    

49ers remain #1.  Cowboys close behind.


 1 49ers         90      1
 2 Cowboys       89      2
 3 Eagles        87      4
 4 Saints        85      3
 5 Vikings       79      5
 6 Redskins      74      6
 7 Dolphins      69      7
 8 Oilers        66      8
 9 Chargers      66     10
10 Bills         66      9
11 Steelers      54     12
12 Chiefs        51     11
13 Raiders       49     13
14 Packers       47     14
15 Rams          40     15
16 Giants        40     17
17 Lions         40     16
18 Broncos       39     18
19 Bears         36     19
20 Falcons       36     20
21 Browns        34     21
22 Colts         31     22
23 Cardinals     26     23
24 Jets          25     24
25 Bengals       21     25
26 Buccaneers    19     26
27 Patriots      11     27
28 Seahawks       8      28

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From: me@a81 (A.A. (Tony) Briggs)
Subject: Re: SON OF CRAP FOOTBALL! ... responses 
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:05:27 GMT

Folks, I'd suggest that no one respond to such as Hamish ... ever. 
Almost certainly it just pleases he/sh/it. 
Hamish obviously has some serious problems, such as living with itself.

tony
o10022@waccvm.corp.mot.com
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From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Subject: Re: Domers 0-3 in playoffs
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 18:19:29 GMT




In article <1993Jan4.141504.21498@linus.mitre.org>, lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
->Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
->From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
->Subject: Domers 0-3 in playoffs
->
->The ABC sportscasters pointed out last Saturday that a team which plays
->indoors has never won the superbowl (at least not since they moved indoors). 
->Well, it won't change this year, as all three of the playoff domers lost
->in the first weekend of the playoffs.
->
->Why can't I rid myself of the image of Mike Ditka on roller skates?
->
->Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
->I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
->The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
->

A dome team has never even BEEN to a Super Bowl.  All four of the Vikings
Super Bowl appearances were before 1982, when they moved indoors.

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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Domes suck
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:41:38 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
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Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <C0Cw8D.G5G@news.iastate.edu> jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph  
B Huber) writes:
> 
> Saturday would have been a lovely day for outdoor football in  
Minneapolis:
> temperature of about ~25-30 deg F with freezing drizzle (I was  
driving by
> Minneapolis around the time that the game was ending on my way back  
to IA from
> ND). Imagine Salisbury throwing under these  
conditions......although the
> weather might have caused Washington to drop those  
interceptions.....

-25-30 deg F with freezing drizzle. Geez, you have strange water
up that way if it is still freezing drizzle at -25 degrees.

Anyway, the point is that the cold can be an advantage to teams
coming from cold areas.  Look at the 1960s and 1970s in 
pro football. During the year, teams from both warm and cold
areas did well.  But then came the playoffs, and Dallas had
to travel to Green Bay or San Diego had to travel to Cincinnati.
The cold weather teams dominated, because they were  used to
playing in the cold (though, with the situation reversed, were
at no disadvantage in the warmer areas).  


--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  
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From: don@cfmu.eurocontrol.be (Don Hughes)
Subject: Chiefs Kickers
Originator: don@eider
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 14:40:39 GMT
Organization: Eurocontrol - Central Flow Management Unit


I am a long-time KC Chiefs fan who has lived through many ups and downs
over the years since Super Bowl IV (this year was no exception). There
is one area, however, where the Chiefs have been remarkably consistent.
Whereas most NFL teams change placekickers faster than Eastern Europe
changes its borders, to my knowledge the Chiefs have had just two in a
period of over 20 years!

I was wondering if anyone could provide me with the career statistics
for both Jan Stenerud and Nick Lowery. I would like to know seasons
played, games played, FGs, FG % and points. I would also like to know
how they rank amongst the all-time NFL leaders in these areas. In the
case of Stenerud, this includes the time he spent with the Packers and
the Vikings.

Thanks!  
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