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From:         MAARTEN DEVOS <DEVO3823@SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TRAVEL TO HONG KONG
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        I am planning travel to Hong Kong during this coming Christmas
break.  Are there any special places I should go for?  I heard that there
has a cheap shopping center.  Also, are there have many different food I
can try?  Is out there anyone could get some ideas.



 Dear Cathy,
Although I have lived in Hong Kong for three years, I don't really know
too much, but I will do my best.  Some great cheap shopping can be found
in Stanley Market on the back side of Hong Kong Island.  There you can
find all sorts of cheap name brand cloths, shoes and accessories.  At
least that is how it was when I was there 4 years ago.  I heard it might
have changed.
        If you are looking for electronics, the best place to look is
on Tsimtsasui road(surely spelt wrong) on the mainland peninsula of Hong
Kong.  You do have to shop around though to make sure you get the best
deal.  Some shops may try to rip you off.
        For sight seeing, I found the Hong Kong Peak gave a spectacular
view of the whole city.  If you have more time take a ferr y to one of the
outlying Islands.  There a whole different side of Hong Kong can be seen.
Even a stroll around Hong Kong Island financial district is interesting.
        I hope I have helped you out a litle bit.  Enjoy your trip, I wish
I could join you, because I love the place and you love to see it again.
Remember to bring along some warmer cloths, because it can be chilly in the
winter.

                Good Luck,
                        Maarten Devos
                        Plattsburgh NY









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From:         DiBella <JOE@EMAIL.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Panama City or Ireland
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>
>
> Date sent:  15-NOV-1992 15:25:06
>   Hi.  DUring March of 1993 I am planning a vacation to Panama City.
> Does anyone have any ideas  for a place ot stay or any sights to see?
>


Where do you mean?   Panama City, Florida or Panama City, Panama?

Panama City, Florida is in the northwest part of the state. Up in the
panhandle, on the gulf coast of Florida.  It has really nice snow white
beaches with acqua green-blue water.  Its becoming more and more a tourist
destination vs. going to the traditional southern Florida resort towns.
Most of the Candians "snowbirds" prefer Panama City because of the lower
rates they can get in hotels and resorts vs. the ones in southern Florida.
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Subject:      Cincinnati
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1.   Is there someone who would explain to me how to
search the files to find old postings on Cincinnati, OH?

2.   New info on Cincinnati that I would like to have
is good places for the following:
restaurants
museums
new age/vegetarian type stores
bookstores/magazine stores
art/craft/quilt stores/supplies
art galleries
clothing stores

Thanks for any help you can give.
Sharon Gordon
gordonse@uncg.bitnet
gordonse@iris.uncg.edu
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From:         KIRB6059@SNYPLAVA.BITNET
Subject:      WASHINGTON D.C.
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HELP!  I HAVE A SLIGHT PROBLEM INVOLVING WASHINGTON D.C.,  MY PROBLEM IS
THAT I KNOW IDEA WHAT WASHINGTON D.D. IS ABOUT.  I HAVE APPLIED TO DO AN
 INTERNSHIP IN A BUSINESS AT ONE OF THE FEDERAL PRISONS IN NEW YORK.
 IN REPLY I WAS TOLD THAT I COULD TAKE A POSITION IN D.C.  I HAVE ONLY SEEN
IT ONCE AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE PASSED THROUGH IT ON OUR WAY TO VIRGINIA,
SO WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO CHECK IT OUT IN GREAT DETAIL.  I AM LOOKING FOR ANY I
   NFORMATION ABOUT THE AREA AND ROUGH ESTIMATES FOR
HOUSING COSTS.  ANY INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE OF USE WILL BE GREATLY
APPRECIATED.

                                     THANKS,
                                         MIKE
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Subject:      opinions
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     I am asking for opinions on where to travel for spring break.  Last
year  myself and a group of friends traveled to Panama City from New York
by car.  Although the trip was long and tedious, we have decided that
wherever we decide to go we will drive.  The only problem we have is where
to go to.  We would like to travel where it is relatively warm, this
meaning Virginia Beach or further south.  If anyone has any recommendations
on any "hot spots" I would greatly appreciate the information.

                                         Thanks,
                                            Mike
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 92 11:15:00 EDT
From:         HANES91@SNYPOTVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: CRUISES
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By short I assume you mean 3 or 4 days.  If that is the case then I have
some information.  If have been on a couple 3/4 day cruises.  One on
Carnivals Mardi Gras and one on Preimere's Oceanic [sp].  Both went to
the bahamas out of Port Canavaral Florida.

There are several choices out of that port.  I believe Carnival cruise
line is now running three ships including one of there mega-liners out of
the port and Preimere is running three ships as well.  Discovery and
Sea Escape may also have trips out of this port.

You can also probably find 3/4 day cruises out of both Miami and Fort Lauderdale
   .

I ahve found carnival to be a good cruise for the money.  It tends to have a
younger crowd and activities.  Preimere is a more family oriented line as it is
the official cruiseline of Disney World.

If you think short is longer than 3/4 days then the next step up is 7 days.
With 7 day cruises you have a much bigger field to choose from both in
cruiselines and embarkation ports and destinations.

Cruises have become resonably priced and are not just for the Rich and famous
anymore.  The are lots of discounts available and prices that can be as little
as $100 per day for meals and room or even lower.

If there is more I can help with just let me know.

The 3/4 day cruises generally go to the bahamas with a stop at another
private island in some cases.

There are also just sailings to nowhere that go out for a day of gambling.

Bill Hanes
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From:         LISA DOOLEY <DOOL0111@SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Help I have a paper due!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date sent:  15-NOV-1992 15:54:27
    Hi!
      I hope that you can help me. I have been thinking about continuing
my studies in a different country. I have Mexico in mind but I really
don't know much about it. How are the schools there? Are the people in
general nice? I have heard horror stories about the water and the food.
Is it really that bad? What do they do for entertainment, in other words
how is the night life?  Are everday things more expensive, less or about
the same as N.Y?  If you can answer any of these questions, it would be
most appreciated.
                                      Thank You
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From: ron@nx01.mik.uky.edu (ron wasielewski)
Subject: info needed California hwy 395 and 190
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Holla netters,

I planning a bike trip for May which will involve 
California hwy 395 and 190 from Lake Tahoe to Las
Vegas via Death Valley.

My questions are: How are the climbs? Are all the passes open
in May? How is the traffic? Do you have any other tips?

I particularly worried about the Death Valley segment.
Will there be opportunities for replenishment of food
and water?

You don't have to be a bike tourist to answer. Any help
will be appreciated.

--Ron
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Subject:      Re: DC-NY airfares
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Let me be a bit more specific.  I have to go to Newark Airport, not downtown
Newark, so Amtrak won't work.  I need a flight from DC (National, BWI, or even
Dulles) to Newark Airport, specifically, roundtrip.  What I'm looking for are
cheaper airfares, not alternate modes of travel.  Any info on that???

                                        Howard
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Reply-To:     Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
From:         Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      making text stretchable with scrapbook (MAC)

I've read here and elsewhere that in Pagemaker one can take text,
paste it to the scrapbook, copy it from the scrapbook, paste it in
your document, and end up with a graphic: that is, one that can be
cropped, stretched, etc.

I've tried it, both by copying text and by copying text blocks, with
no luck.

Was that in 3.0 and not in 4.0 or something? Or am I simply daft?

Rev
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I sent this response to the writer in canada who needed help, but decided you
all should see it too....

--------------------------- original message

Subj:   Re: Mac ==> PC Conversion

Why don't you do what many people like me do, who use both Mac PM and PC PM.
Buy Dos Mounter for $40 for your mac.  It's an init, and when I want to take a
Mac PageMakr file to the PC PageMakr version, I just stick a PC formatted 3.5"
disk in my macintosh.  Becasue I have Dos mounter running, it instantly
recognizes the PC disk, as a valid disk, and it's totally vieweable on the
desktop.

Then I take the Mac PM 4.0 file and drag it onto the floppy disk icon to copy
it.  Then I eject this disk, and stick the disk into the PC and enter PC PM 4.0
and open the file.

For $40 you avoid all the crap you just went thru.....  Call Dayna at (801)
531-0203 for info on DOS Mounter.  Cause the Mac is smarter than the PC , you
put Dos mounter on the mac and it can then read both mac and pc disks.

cindy stone

stonec@iubacs
stonec@ucs.indiana.edu
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Please subscribe me to PageMaker User List.

Thank you.

Jody Warfel
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:51:46 PST
Reply-To:     "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
From:         "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Accents and other extended characters

If you're using a Macintosh, here are the accent letter combinations as provided
by my favorite reference: Pagemaker 4, an easy desk reference.

tilde = Opt+N the let go and press [spacebar]
   over a  Opt+N the let go and press a
   Over A Opt+N the let go and press A
   Over n  Opt+N the let go and press n
   Over N  Opt+N the let go and press [Shift]+N
   Over o  Opt+N the let go and press o
   Over O  Opt+N the let go and press [Shift]+O

Diaresis = epends on the letter over which it is to appear.
   a   Opt+U then let go and prss [spacebar]
   A   Opt+U then let go and press a
   e   Opt+U then let go and press e
   E   Opt+[Shift]+U
   i   Opt+U then let go and press i
   I   Option+[Shift]+f
   o   Opt+U
   U   Opt+U then let go and press u
   y   Opt+U then let go and press y
   Y   Option+[Shift]+`

Others are listed at the back of the book. There's a load of them.

Hope this helps if you have a Mac.

Monte
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Subject:      SAS to Pagemaker, Table Editor

If anyone does know how to transfer graphs from SAS to Pagemaker, please post
to the list or to my address, GS0383@SpringB.bitnet. Also, I tried to export a
table from Table Editor to Word and it seems to be impossible. I tried to copy
and paste it. Does anyone know how to do this?

Melanie
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Reply-To:     Far out in West Michigan <YA57@FERRIS.BITNET>
From:         Far out in West Michigan <YA57@FERRIS.BITNET>
Subject:      HELP: accents

For Gladys, and anyone needing characters "outside" the
keyboard on DOS machines:

The ASCII chart is where to start.  Using that code number
for the specific character, hold the ALT key, and press
0 (zero) plus the 3-digit ASCII code (num-lock off).

For example:  For the "e" with the grave bending left (okay,
so I don't know what it's called :-) ), make sure num-lock
is off, hold the alt key, and press 0232, and release the
alt key.  The character should appear at the cursor location.

There are utulities to do the same function, in a graphical
manner, for example hDC's Character Set (part of the Micro-
Apps set).  Click on the character you need, click on copy,
switch to PM, and paste.

Word for Windows has a similar function in the Insert/Symbol
command menu. (I just described it:  Select Insert menu,
then Symbol, and you see a chart of the character set for
the selected font).

Does that help??

        --Bruce.

  Bruce Werner                BITNET:  YA57@FERRIS
  Big Rapids, Michigan  (We're BIG, we're just not GRAND)
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From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Subject: Re: TAN: PC's can read Mac disks
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21:12:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta


I would like to obtain a copy of Peripheral Land Inc.'s
Mac-To-DOS and the shareware utility Mac-ette. Does anyone have
the address for Peripheral and an Internet anonymous ftp site for
mac-ette? Thanks in advance.


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From:         Henry Budgett <henryb@SCO.COM>
Subject:      Re: SAS to Pagemaker, Table Editor

SAS - goodness knows, but Table Editor to Word can be done.

You have two choices: as a PICT graphic direct (or through the
Clipboard/Scrapbook) or Export the Table as tab delimited text
and then tell Word to treat that as a Table. Works OK except for
joined cells which mess things up horribly.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 22:19:53 EST
From: Kevin Foss <IO20816@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
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Subject: Re: TAN: Shareware Mac disk reader for PC

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.921119065818.288@dopig.uab.edu>, JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU
(Jeff Bone) says:
>
>Kevin writes...
>
>>    It might be interesting to note that a couple weeks ago on the Compuserve
>> DTPForum.   A fully function shareware program called "mac-ette" will do
>just
>
>This sounds like a winner, I'd love to see it.  Can you tell us where on
>CompuServe the file can be found, and of course, if you can load it to some
>FTP site all the better.
>
Jeff, I'm going to reference you to the quote of the original message above, an
d reiterate that it should be in the DTPForum on Compuserve.

Unfortunately I don't have the file handy with me, so can't upload anywhere
until Tuesday and don't know where a good FTP side would be.
-Kevin
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From:         "Eric J. Ray" <ejray@OKWAY.OKSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re[2]: TAN: PC's can read Mac disks

>   It might be interesting to note that a couple weeks ago on the Compuserve
>DTPForum.   A fully function shareware program called "mac-ette" will do just
>this.  It is real handy (easily splits resource/data forks, etc)  All menu
>driven and a real small .EXE file.   The best part is that it only costs $15 or
>$20 dollars (can't remember which).  But it is cheap and reads 1.4 meg Mac
>floppies find--highly recommended.   If anyone is interested, I could probably
>steer you towards a BBS site (don't of any ftp) for the file, or even get the
>name/address of the author.

>Anyways this might be the most cost effective, and least work-involved method
>of putting MAC Pagemaker files on a PC.  I haven't tried that specific
>operation yet.

Kevin

Please send post any information you can to the list. I am sure lots of us would
appreciate it.

Eric

Eric Ray
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Reply-To:     TRUTH -- Geof Peters -- <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
From:         TRUTH -- Geof Peters -- <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      Our own FTP site location....

Well Folks -- its official. Wuarchive is now officially supporting
our FAQ and support documents. I am looking into some backup sites
right now and will let the list now. I also want to see if Compuserve
would be interested. Lastly, I would love to make some of the
documents into Windows Help file format and see if Aldus would be
interested.... (yeah right!)

Here is the info:

    FTP SITE: WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU  (not WUARCHIVE*S*!)
    Dir location: doc\misc\pagemakr (note that Pagemaker is
                                     missing an "e" again.)

Here is the bad news:

I only have the PC .ZIP version on there right now. I have lost
access to the Mac I was using and thus I have not yet found a way to
create the Macintosh .SEA version yet.

Also, I have not modified the FAQ yet to get rid of the reference to
SCRIBE.UWYO.EDU. ***** SCRIBE.UWYO.EDU no longer carries anything
related to this list. The files will be located at WUARCHIVE from now
on.

I want to thank Chris Meyer and all the people on the list who helped
me track down some locations to use. I will post a backup site soon.
Lastly, maybe I can convince Chris to keep a pointer to the filter
updates located elsewhere on wuarchive.

And finally -- I am curious (I hope you are listening Cindy :) as to
what the opinion might be to change the description of the list to be
more orientated to DTPing in general. Just a thought!

Geof.







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