From: johnson@snake2.cs.wisc.edu (Kai Johnson)
Subject: Re: TECHNO Samples...
Organization: /usr/lib/news/rn/organization
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:46:47 GMT

In article <BvIKLF.75D@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) writes:
>I *know* I'm not the only person with a sampler on this newsgrope.  And I *know*
>I'm also not the only person doing Techno music.  Okay:  Where are you getting
>your samples?  I'll tell you my sources if you tell me yours. 
>I've been scouring my Techno compilations to find some nice "bare" percussion, 
>ripe 4 sampling.  So far, it's slim pickins.  But, hey, mebbe I should engage
>the POWER of INTERNET ("..Shazzaaam!.."), and the ANSWERS to THE MYSTERY of 
>TOTAL SAMPLE CONSCIOUSNESS(tm) will be revealed to me!! 
>Of course, I could just shuck out the $50+ for one of those "Complete Techno
>Sample Library" CD's, but where's the fun in that?  Really, though, TeChNo
>gurus, if that's how the 'pros' are doin' it, I'll do it too.  
>
>On a related topic:  Who out there knows about sampling and copyright violation?
>I heard that a sample is OK as long as it doesn't "contain significant portions
>of the source material which would reveal the nature of the copyrighted work"
>(or some such legal drivel). So, it's OK to sample Jack Nicholson saying "Here's
>Johnny!!!" (as he axes his way through a door :-} ); but it's not OK to make a 
>loop out of the opening few bars of "Under Pressure" by Queen/Bowie. I want to
>know more!!! (Hey, let's start a thread...)
>
>Thanx,
>
>XLR8 --Pretentious Techno Pseudonym
>
>Barry Sanders  --Acceptably American Birth Name
>bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu

It's no fun using those sample libraries, I agree. If you want to be unique,   
Which you may or may not, Look Thee In Used Record Stores. The best way to get
some cool background loops (clean percussion, etc) and other junk is to look 
for lots of records, cheap. This is if you're into loops from records. 

For Pristine clean lean 'n' mean DRUM samples, just keep your ears peeled when
you hear a single..preferably when you buy thousands of CD singles! A lot of
remixes, as you well know, start off with that obligatory
		 THUMP. THUMP. THUMP. THUMP.
bass drum thing. Ripe for stealing. It's a bit more difficult to get good snaresthat are useful in techno. I'm sure you've been doing this, so all I can say is
keep looking! The pro's either have huge record collections, really expensive
sample editing gear (for customizing drum samples), or both. If you can hook    
your sampler up to an editor/librarian and edit it you're a step ahead of me...
I own an Ensoniq EPS and the manual is extremely cryptic on this subject.

Another cool thing is to SAMPLE YOUR OWN STUFF! This is a very cool thing to do,
very Politically Correct. And no copyright violations! If you or a loved one
can play the drums...Instant drum loops! Sample anything! Everything!

Well, hope this helped, maybe you already knew all this............

Bands with a clean sound are (obviously) easier to sample than grungier
bands. Try Nitzer Ebb or Depeche Mode. Also, consider getting an analog synth.
That's another place these sounds come from. You can also rent drum machines
and synths to sample. Try the Roland TR-808 (or any other TR-) drum machines.
The older drum machines are very popular now. Also, the newest Boss Dr. Rhythm
is filled with the standard dance drum samples (i.e. TR-808, TR-727, etc).

-David Heagle
& Kai Johnson