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From: hunter@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Hunter Scales)
Subject: Re: Calling all film experts: name this film
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:35:44 GMT

redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick) writes:

>>>> in response to my disjoint remembrances of a film <<<<<

>	The title of this film is "Images."  It was directed by
>Robert Altman (most recently directed _The Player_.).  It is
>fascinating and frightening.  I saw it in a "Art of Film" class
>I took a couple of years ago.  John Williams did the music.

	Yes!  Wow, I never cease to be amazed at the amount of experience
	that one can draw upon simply by logging in!  Thanks for 
	the info. It was driving me crazy.

>	I think it was released in 1973.  Is it available on
>video?  I'd love to see it again!

	I just checked and I was told by a very reliable source that
	it is not available on video.  Really a pity considering the
	staggering amount of dreck that *is* available.  Na ja.


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>|       a.k.a. Redrum         |               I'm here to rescue you." |
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From: sdo@linus.mitre.org (Sean D. O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park Spoiler (almost)
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:59:37 GMT

In article <1e0rp0INNnd7@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.143829.27464@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) writes:
>
>>  If you like Jurassic Park, try Crichton's other books.  I highly recommend
>>"Sphere", "Congo", "The Great Train Robbery", "Eaters of the Dead", "The
>>Andromeda Strain", and his latest bestseller (which would also make a GREAT
>>movie) "Rising Sun".  All excellent reads.

I beg to differ, slightly.  In my opinion, Crichton's writing has gone
distinctly downhill over time.  His best book was Andromeda Strain,
closely followed by Eaters of the Dead, the Great Train Robbery, and
The Terminal Man.  His later stuff (Sphere, Congo, Jurassic Park)
has interesting elements, but the overall effect (inluding
characterization) is, in my opinion, lacking in ways that his
earlier works were not.  I have not read "Rising Sun".

Sean
From: colint@spider.co.uk (Colin Tinto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:49:40 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

I'm surprised Mr. Speilberg wasn't out filming it :-)

Just to get some footage he could undoubtedly use somewhere in a film :-)


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From: d40937@aiken (Jean Yves Desbiens)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Extended versions on T.V.
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:14:46 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Robert Church (bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu) wrote:
: In article <17517@mindlink.bc.ca> Charlie_Hutchins@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Hutchins) writes:
: This may seem a bit ambitious but I would like to know what movies
: (especially science fiction films) have appeared on television with extra
: footage. I know both Star Trek II and Aliens have been on t.v. with extra
: 
There where 12 minutes of new footage added to "The Poets Society" when
it was shown last year, i may add that i don't know why they cut these
scenes in the first place as they made the movie even better, if
possible, than the original theatrical version. 

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From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: Favorite Vampire-One Liners
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:17:54 GMT

In <1992Nov20.225417.1@acad.drake.edu> tdl001@acad.drake.edu writes:

>	Actually, wasn't that line from Love at First Bite "Children of the
>Night, please, SHUT UP!" ????????????

>	I could be wrong you know. It could happen.

>*Buffy*
 ^^^^^^^

I'll assume that's a reference to _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_.  Which happens
to be chock full of great vampire quotes.  Here's one of my favorites, from the
funniest damn vampire scene I've ever seen!:

"UUUuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh....
 AAAAAAAAEEehhhhhhhhhhhh.....
 OOOOOOOOOooooooohhhh......."
             --Paul Reubens in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"

As a matter of interest, for those of you who haven't seen this movie, go see
it!  (Probably have to wait a couple months and rent it.)  Paul Reubens (yes, 
Pee Wee) is awesome!  (I hate Pee Wee.)  He doesn't act anything like Pee Wee.
He has long hair, a goatie (sp?), and a very convincing wild, insane, manic
look in his eyes.  He's really a good actor!  And funnier'n Hell...

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From: amc01@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Guido Menschingg)
Subject: Happy birthday, Jodie!!!
Reply-To: hgd@spinfo.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sebastian Hagedorn)
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:59:40 GMT

On Thursday, November 19, Jodie Foster is going to celebrate her 30th
birthday. (I don't know how long these postings take to reach the
outskirts of the USENET, so her birthday may already have passed, when you read
this). 
Let's wish her all the best for her future, and many more Oscars to come.
Maybe she'll even break Katharine Hepburn's record (4 AA's). 

So, happy birthday, Jodie!!!

 
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From: sl9b4@cc.usu.edu (Deep Six)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Various Dracula stuff
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:08:37 MDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov17.043128.14266@news.columbia.edu>, egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
> In article <Bxu8D1.LxG@inews.Intel.COM> mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ) writes:
>>
>>-- 
>>Elizabeth Levy writes:
>>
>>	I thought this was intentional.  His hair turns grey when confronting
>>	Dracula directly, and reverts when they are no longer facing each
>>	other (though not all the way to black).  They are supposed to be
>>	contrasted with each other (since both are in love with Mina), and
>>	Harker is in some sense more pallid than the Count (the former being a
>>	proper Victorian gentleman, the latter being a virile foreigner).  The
>>	hair perhaps emphasizes this point.

I think there is something in vampire folklore that says vampires suck the 
life from those around them (i.e. ages them -- remember the flowers?). I am
just glad the other characters didn't make mention of it. You couldn't help
but notice the color change, of course, but at least you weren't distracted
by others in the film saying stuff like, ``Why Jonathon, your hair appears 
to be changing colour'' (notice British spelling). 

BTW, I loved the film but was a little bit disappointed in some aspects. I
was made to understand that the sets were going to be a lot less obvious. 
Coppala said at one point that he wanted the art direction to harken the
viewer back to the early days of horror movies, but he didn't want that to
become a focus of the movie. Maybe someone else can clarify this, but I 
heard that the studios where they shot a lot of the film made Coppala use 
more shots of the set than he wanted to, hence the fakey feel. I felt he
made the best of it, though.

And I know this is out of the thread, but the morph at the end DEFINITELY 
looked computer to me.

Okay,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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that all the fish are underwater.'' -- 3m Sportsman Bassmaster how-to video

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From: zack@thunder (Zack)
Subject: Re: Help! Need some information....
Organization: Encompass
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:08:37 GMT

In article <T39SBMF1@cc.swarthmore.edu> kbuckhu1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Keir  
Buckhurst) writes:
> grafx companies...
I can rattle off a few I've heard of..
Opto-mystic
Post Perfect
Pixar!
Wavefront??

You might also want to try Pacific Data Images, (California?). They did the  
Sparkle Crest commercial a few years back that was so popular. Also, it seems  
to me that most of the large graphics companies don't use PC technology, such  
as Macs, but usually specialized graphics workstations, such as Silicon  
Graphics and Symbolics 3d machines. You might want to try your luck with a  
smaller firm first before going big time. I have found there to be many small  
computer graphics firms located in Raleigh, NC. One of them being a company  
called Videofonics.  

> Thanks to anyone who posts or sends a reply to this - I appreciate it.
No promblemo. (T2) 

-Zach 
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From: hunter@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Hunter Scales)
Subject: Calling all film experts: name this film
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:48:18 GMT

	For the past week, I have been trying remember the title of a 
	film.  Unfortunately, old age having set it, I can only recall
	vague bits of the film.  However, even with these slim clues,
	I am confident that the collective memory of the net will provide the
	answer.
	Anyway here is as much as I can dredge out of my feeble memory:

	Plot:
	The film was set in England (I dont know whether or not it is an
	English production).  The plot involves a woman who is either
	going mad or whose husband is trying to do away with here.  We
	are not sure until the very end of the film.  The opening scenes 
	are in an apartment in a city but soon the action moves to a 
	cottage in the country.  I remember quite vividly because there
	is an autombile ride from the city to the country.  The car pulls
	off the side of the road, overlooking a valley.  There is a cabin
	in the valley below.  The woman gets out of the car and looks
	down at the cabin straining to see a person standing next to 
	a car by the cabin.  The camera changes viewpoint.  We are now
	down at the cabin and the same woman is looking up at the ridge
	straining to see the person standing beside the car!
	I remember that, at the cabin there is quite a bit of suspense and
	violence.  I think that the woman thinks that here husband is trying
	to kill her.  But it is not clear that he is.  Finally she drives
	back to the city.  On the way there, she sees her husband in the road
	and runs over him.  Getting back to the flat, however, he is there!

	Cast:
	I *think* the woman is played by Susananh York.  Im guessing the 
	man is Perter Finch?

	Title:  I *think* it was a single word.  Something like
	"Illusions" or  something.

	Release date: maybe late 1970's.

	Not much to go on, huh?  Well go to it.  Someone out there has
	seen this and remembers it or maybe *Im* the one going crazy.

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Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:32937 alt.postmodern:2715 alt.cult-movies:10360
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.postmodern,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:19:10 GMT
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <aDBauB6w165w@cithara.uucp> william@cithara.uucp (William Ross) writes:
>lfiddick@nyx.cs.du.edu (larry fiddick) writes:
>
>> what is his latest film?
>
>Prospero's Books. Latest that I've seen. Loosly Based on William
>Shakespeares The Tempest. Facinating Collage of Images, though you might
>think you're watching a music video. And if you fall asleep don't assume
>that the film bores you. Think of the magic.

There's a film that was shown at a museum exhibit about death.  The
film itself concerns a period in 18th C. Paris in which a large number
of bodies turned up in the Seine, and is constructed from autopsy
notes.  Greenaway spends about 10 or 15 minutes talking about each
corpse (age, sex, where it turned up, a biography if one is known,
etc.), which the usual collage of images (actors hired to play corpses
lying on autopsy tables, while the coroner works on them, various
other images).  The music was by Nyman (very distinctive), and the
texture of the film was very much like _Prospero's Books_, with the
layered, HDTV pictures.  I'm not sure whether this was made before or
after PB (nor do I remember the name of the film).



In fiscal year 1991, the government agencies classified as secret a
total of 7,107,017 documents.  This marks the first time that the
total number of reported classification decisions in a year is a
palindrome.		-- 1991 Information Security Oversight Office
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From: ukoga@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeff "Koganuts" Koga)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: The Clubfoot Orchestra (who are they?) - Dr. Caligari/Nosferatu
Keywords: silent films
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:20:03 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies

In <1992Nov14.015232.24351@sco.com> stewarte@sco.COM (just a guy made of dots and lines) writes:

>The "Caligari" soundtrack I've only seen on cassette, which I have at home 
>somewhere.  I bought it at one of their performances.  I've seen one of
>their other scores, "Nosferatu" I think, on CD and actually available
>in a store.  Sorry but I have no memory for the labels for either.

The Clubfoot Orchestra also has a CD out of the soundtrack that they did for
Fritz Lang's "Metropolis".  I saw it at the local Tower Records that I worked at
over the summer.  It was in the Jazz section, for some reason, though I wouldn't
know where else to put it exactly.  Perhaps Soundtracks?


							--Jeff "Koganuts" Koga
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From: ivy@chem.ucsd.edu (Ivy Blumberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:17:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1e9357INNl50
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
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>you're probably thinking "Planet of the Apes, a great movie -- NOT!" But watch it
>again!
I agree it was a great flick.

>Remember also that when this movie came out in 1968, nobody was expecting the
>surprise ending (on the beach). People who were adults at that time told me that
>last shot was really a shocker to most everyone, considering the fears they lived
This has got to be one of the best movie endings of all time!


ivy
From: ce732@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven K. Wilcken)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Dracula:Sheesh, what a film
Date: 16 Nov 1992 03:42:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce732@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven K. Wilcken)
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Well, I'm glad I saw the new Dracula film, but I didn't enjoy it too
much.  It does live up to its press as being closer to the book then
any other film.  My big problem with this movie came from the very
beging.  Yes, a lot of the Dracula legends come from Vlad the 
Impaler, this is not in the book.  Personally, I perfer to have
Dracula as this mysterius figure that has been around for centuries
then to give him an origin.  This is used mostly to make Dracula a
sympathetic figure.  Most of the material added to the movie that
was not in the original book was to make Dracula more sympathetic, 
and was done in a very heavy handed way, that kept jolting me out of
my enjoyment of the movie.  The final battle and chase in the movie was
done real well, and provoked the same feelings I had when I read the
book, until the very end when it jolted me out of the story with the
heavy handed message, Dracula's not a bad guy, he just needs to be
loved.  This just left a bad taste in my mouth.
-- 
Don't ask me how it works or I'll start to whimper

                                            -Arthur Dent-
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Zentropa
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <00964044.7DE7DEA0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 2609cowend@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>I just caught this film in Milwaukee -- does anyone have any 
>information on it, or its director Lars Von Trier?

He was the bald concentration camp survivor who testified on behalf
of the owner of Zentropa.

> 
>This was definately one of the best movies I've seen all
>year...I was enthralled.

It's been a while since I've seen it, and my memory is very foggy.



A cartoon found in last week's New Yorker:
Picture: Middle-aged man talking to another middle-aged man in a bar.
Caption: "I just heard that Superman is going to die.  He's the same
	  age I am!"
From: mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: OLDMAN WAS A SEXY VAMP--NOT!
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:41:35 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp.


-- 
O.K. folks.  Here's my opinion (hold on):

First, Gary Oldman didn't "do it" for me.  Period.  I WANT a hunk o' vampire
and I got an unappealing, ho-hum, *unhung* vampire.  Chris Sarandon
(from Fright Night) can bite me any day!!!  Sex appeal, for me, is
quintessential to a convincing vampire, and Oldman was just that:
an "old man."  I am heterosexual, and believe me, I thought the
*women* were far more appealing and erotic than Oldman.  (The
guy who played Lucy's fiancee, who I am sure played Westley in Pricess
Bride, would have done it for me, too, but he was a stuffy English
guy.)

Second, I giggled uncontrollably every time Keanu Reeves opened
his mouth. Bwah-ha-ha-ha!  He was positively silly as an Englishman.
I loved him in Dangerous Laisons, but for some reasons I thought
he was thoroughly unconvincing as Harker.

Third, Harker's hair changed color.  After it went grey from his
"infidelity" with the vampire women (Van Helsing's word, not mine),
it was black again when they were on the train.  Furthermore, it was
almost white when they encountered Drac in Seward's place, and by the
end it was just somewhat grey.

Fourth, why were there pictures from the Kama Sutra in the book 
"1001 Arabian Nights"?  Also, Lucy was very prim and proper in the
novel.  I would have liked to have seen more of a seduction of her
"Victorian decency," but they chose to make her "vamp" to start off
with.

And finally, I didn't buy the "tragic/romantic" stuff.  I nearly puked
when I heard Mina's voice-over at the end about how their love was
"stronger than the darkness" or some such nauseating stuff.  Puh-leeze!
It disgusts me that they romanticized this horrific tale.  Our myth-less
society has emasculated a very religious, very spiritually horrifying
story.  I understand that movie makers have to appeal to the masses,
as it were, and in the process they have to secularize stories, but
this movie *to me* has lost much of its original power.  Gag!


--
Maria E. Douglas	(408) 765-4728		    
Intel Corporation	mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com  

No quote.  Not today.  I've said enough already.

I don't speak for Intel, either.
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From: mason
Subject: Re: Highlander 3? Ye Gods, NO!
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:50:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.042911.12177@athena.cs.uga.edu>
troy@athena.cs.uga.edu (Troy Johnson) writes:
 
>NO, NO, NO!
>
>After that ABOMINATION, please tell me that the post saying there is going
>to be a Highlander 3 was just some cruel joke.  Or at least, someone
>please console me by saying that they are going to just ignore all this
>Zeist nonsense.  Highlander was a classic and the TV series actually has
>some potential if it survives the censors, but not another so-called movie
>that chops the original plot line to pieces.  Could someone please fill me
>in on this Highlander 3: The Vanishing?  Gods, even the title sounds silly.
 
I've been hearing rumors of a third Highlander movie since the second
one left the theatre.  Unfortunately, I have no confirmation.  I've
heard, though, that it was to be titled "Highlander 3, the Magician".
 
I do hope they ignore Highlander 2.  I have this dream/idea that the
third movie should begin with Lambert and Connery in directors' chairs
on a black screen.  "We apologize to our audience for the abomination
that was 'the Quickening', and would like to proceed with this film
as though it had never been made.  We hope you enjoy Highlander 3, the
(??), as much as the original.  Thank you."  It has the advantage of
never having been done before, anyway.
 
There should have been only one.
 
-- mason
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From: peschko@grouper.micro.umn.edu (Edward Peschko)
Subject: Re: BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:53:27 GMT

In <1992Nov15.042655.11810@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (mark.r.leeper) writes:


>     In 1922 F. W. Murnau made the first film version of DRACULA: NOSFERATU.
>While the film really was a thinly veiled plagiarism of Bram Stoker's novel,
>originally calling the vampire Count Orlock, the source of the material was
>obvious.  What was unusual about Murnau's version was the expressionist,
>almost surreal, world in which Dracula/Orlock lives.  
>incredible.

NOSFERATU is, if not THE best version of the vampire myth, close to the best.
And Bram Stoker's DRACULA pays heavy homage to it (going as far as stealing
several images out of it: the riderless carriage, Jon a prisoner in the castle,
the original look of dracula Ultimately, NOSFERATU is so successful because it
in turn pays homage to the origination of the vampire myth -- as the carriers/ 
causes of plague (when the vampire takes to the ship, the crates of earth are 
accompanied by rats... once he gets to England, the countryside starts to die).
This is the ONE reason that I found the love interest in Coppola's movie 
hard to believe.

	I do agree, however, that the movie was visually stunning -- stunning in 
a way that is not so obvious and straightforward as such "lets throw as much
money at it and see how good we can get it to look" special effects like T2.
I ALMOST want to see it again for these images, although the acting for a 
second viewing would become quite intolerable.  

	I have yet to see Herzog's version of Dracula-- and have heard that it is
just as excellent as the original. Is it out on videotape? I believe that 
Klaus Kinski would make the best vampire... he has played several madmen: it
seems fitting that one time he should play a devil.

Ed
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