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From: alee@quads.uchicago.edu (Nic Fit)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Poland-->Testament
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:15:48 GMT
Reply-To: alee@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

Look at the latest issue of "Guitar World"

Skolnik himself says that it was inevitable that he'd leave
sooner or later. He, and two others are forming a band called
"Exhibit A" which is supposed to be like a bluesy, mellow rock.

As for Testament, Alex's replacement is the guitarist from
Forbidden.

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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:00:38 GMT

In article <cfM6OOK00awBQ0vGdp@andrew.cmu.edu> Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:


>Morbid Angel -
>	Now you may think these guys are a cool death metal band but I was
>reading in guitar world magazine that Trey Azogthoth's all time favorite
>guitarist was Eddie Van Halen and his all time favorite group was Van


Are you actually serious about all of these? And anyway, again, who cares if
they're poser or not, if they play well in concert or at least on the album?
Just don't watch MTV or read any rock mags, and you'd never know if they're
actually posers. (Unless of course you listen to a band and then notice that
they're stealing riffs and lyrics from more famous bands just to get people
to by their album, then you'd know they were poser or at least are not a really
good band)

wei hao
Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
 we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
 control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Re: Steve Vai
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:46:02 GMT

n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu (BarryB) writes:

>djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:

>>Flexable is absolutely horrible compared to Passion and Warefare.  This is a
>>CD EVERYONE should have!  It is awesome.  Seriously, if you don't hacve
>>Passion and Warfeare, get it, and you will never listen to Flexable again.

>Hey, don't judge Flexable so harshly.  Sure Passion and Warefare is 
>better.  But flexable has a very neat quality to it that most commercial
>(lets face it, Flexable is not commerically acceptable) albums lack.
>It's very honest and real.  And there's something refreshing about that.
>I still listen to *both* albums.

Hey, I didn't mean to say don't ever listen to "Flexable", but I just meant
to say that I think P&W is light years ahead of/better than.  The vocal stuff
especially on Flexable is way too cheesy for me.  I guess I like to listen to
more of Steve's talented playing then to be refreshed by a raw early years
album.  That's all

						the man
From: wscc90r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Wilson Chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: UK: Raw Power on ITV
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:34:45 GMT

Hi there,

Anyone here from the UK? Does anyone know what happened to Raw Power
that use to be on ITV early Saturday morning (3-4am)? It has
disappeared after the new year, I assume that since the new ITV
franchises came into action, nodoby wants to buy the program now. Does
anyone know what's happened? 

It will be really sad if Raw Power has gone off the air, that was the
only Rock video magazine I could see- I don't have cable-.


Wils
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Van Halen (was Re: Good vs. Bad Mellower Music)
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:50:31 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:

>Also would like to point out that I DOUBT Van Halen considers themselves
>metal.  They are not pop-metal, just pop.  The popular kinda catchy tunes
>with pretty good riffs that almost everyone likes.  A fun band, without the
>need to be dark or serious, cuz they are just jammin'.  Dunno if i LIKE Van
>Halen, but I doubt they should be criticized as pop-metal crap.  No way can
>you compare VH with Slaughter/Skid Row type music.  Just some good ol' boys
>makin some fun music.	

I used to think Van Halen were the greatest. I now just think
that they are great. They are not pop metal and for the most
part they are not pop. There are some exceptions to this
though (ie Jump, Why Can't This Be Love?). The more Eddie uses
the synth the more Van Halen become pop. I think that they
should be seen as a hard rock band, maybe the definitive hard
rock band. I agree with you when you say they are a good time
or fun band (not your exact wording).

Jed
From: st1p8@rosie.uh.edu (Wong, Chat L.)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Death News
Date: 21 Jan 1993 08:25 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan21.061351.29396@news.columbia.edu>, ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos) writes...
>In article <93019.184759TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>The band Death are preparing to begin recording there fifth album.
>>Sean Rienhard the drummer on the Human album will also be the drummer
> 
>Actually, I heard pretty recently that Gene Hoglan (Dark Angel) will be
>the drummer for the next one.  (Cynic's album is still being put off due
>to hurricane damage, last I heard.)
> 
Chuck Schuldiner and Gene Hoglan working on the same project?? I'll believe it
when I see it ! Anybody who saw the Ultimate Revenge Two knows that there is 
hatred between Chuck and Gene, but Chuck is so two-faced that I would not 
doubt it if he is trying to be friends with Gene....
From: leranth@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Tom Leranth)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Quest for Peace
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:20:09 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.9.13

In article <MfLuj_y00WBM09utx8@andrew.cmu.edu>, John Adam Nimpfer <jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> 
|> This silly bickering about posers has got to end.  I am calling for
|> peace on this bboaard.  This nation is entering a new era of peace and
|> posterity and r&r metal should reflect that.  Please, can't we all just
|> get along?????  Suaron, as president of r&r metal, you must do
|> something......Please, do it for the children.
|> 
|>                                                              Peace
|> 


    Oh great ...   yeah, if you and Suaron disappear back into the netherworld
                things would be *nice* and *peaceful* and we would be
              back to discussing moshin groups rather than *eternal flame wars*

        
  God send
  The crimson wind
  You'll die with nothing
  In the end...                                Solitude
  There is only pain within                      Aeturnus
  There is only pain for sin

-- 
leranth@miller.cs.uwm.edu       |    P ? NP      Factoring ? P    
leranth@point.cs.uwm.edu        |    DFA = NFA = REG
leranth@csd4.csd.uwm.edu        |                     Time is irrelevant.
Conserve space ... hash
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From: roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Rivet Head)
Subject: Re: Just a Warning...
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:11:55 GMT

In article <93022.231306TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <C19D78.4Fv@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, cbg033@cch.coventry.ac.uk (GM
>Davies) says:
>
>>Stretch.
>
>Look at your fuckin' name!!!  Stretch is not followed by a period unless
>it is used in a sentence!!!!

Shut the fuck up, you stupid idiot.  You can't exactly spell or
punctuate very well yourself.  So don't complain about the way someone
else signs his or her sig.


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From: st1sq@Rosie.UH.EDU (Charles Foster Kane)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: How to spell Yngwie
Date: 22 Jan 1993 03:37:42 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: st1sq@Rosie.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu


Here's how to spell that certain guitar player's name:

O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D.

And, if you want the original Hebrew:

B-O-R-I-N-G.

Malmsteen sucks. There is no feel in his playing--it seems like the whole
purpose of his songs is to find out how many notes he can play in a certain time
period.

'nuff griping for now.
From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: "Sweet Leaf"
Date: 27 Jan 1993 21:24:15 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

In article <009673BE.A20670F0@pomona.claremont.edu>, cblanc@pomoma.claremont.edu (P0ZER N PR0UD!!1!) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.164523.21534@news.columbia.edu>, pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>>I heard there was to be a cover compilation to be released which concerned
>>the legalisation of pot, and one of the songs was to be "Sweet Leaf." But
>>I was under the impression the song was about tea, and it was coincidence
>>Ozzy happened to be coughing from too much pot right at the beginning but
>>for some reason they kept it. Anyone care to explain this? I really have no
>>clue about this except what I hear as rumors.
>
>	this is a joke, right?  'you introduced me ... to my life' etc. doesn't
>sound to be about tea at all, unless by 'tea' you mean phencyclidine, which may
>not have been available then...first, if ozzy was coughing from too much pot,
>how come they echo-effect enhanced the sound?  second, the lyrics...these
>aren't about dope?  third, a band that breaks all conformity singing about one
>of the most british things there is, tea?
>	sabs maintains a nice balance on drugs.  there's stuff like "sweet
>leaf" which is pro-drug-experience, and then there's stuff like "fairies wear
>boots" which is more "hey-don't-fuck-up-on-drugs."
Of course, the real "don't fuck up on drugs" song off Paranoid is Hand of
Doom.  Eric M.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:51:30 GMT

phlegm@cs1.bradley.edu (Kevin Bourrillion) writes:

>feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin) writes:

>>its amazing how many morons out there dont recognize sarcasm

>It's amazing how many morons out there don't know how to indicate it.

Well when he started slagging off Axl and had a GNR quote at
the end of the message it was pretty obvious. His musical
knowledge was broad enough so as to know it was a joke. It
was so ludicrous it had to be a joke.

Jed
From: mjjj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: whats metal (Re: Here's one for Suaron)
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:44:39 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1993Jan22.164547.2015@news.columbia.edu>,
pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes: 
> In article <93022.011654TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>In article <1993Jan21.111006.25678@nntp.hut.fi>, m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti
> 
>>
>>No, its not rock'n'roll!!!!!   It METAL!!!!  And we don't use Jesus in
>>this fucking newsgroup!   Its Satan, Lucifer, or Glenn!!!!!  You fuckin'
>>poser!
>>
> You are way out of line. 

God man, don't you know Suaron lives for this stuff?  Can you actually take the
above comment you responded to seriously?  Suaron loves to make idiot comments
like the one above, and even with that one it should be evident that Satan 
doesn't have to be present in everything he listens to.  Get a clue man, it's
the people like you who get offended by his meaningless drivel that encourage
him to write even more!

Malevor

Trapped in a frozen hell in NY







> 
> Heavy metal is not just Satan or whatever other names this character goes by.
> Glenn Danzig is not the epitome of metal. (He's good, but I wouldn't consider
> 	a representative heavy metal artist).
> True, this is heavy metal not rock'n'roll, but heavy metal derives heavily
> 	from rock'n'roll, so much that usually it's classified as rock music.
> 
> Don't tell me songs like Maiden's "Revelations" or anything by Tourniquet
> aren't heavy metal just because they're Christian and make references to God.
> 
> Besides, most of the metal I listen to tend towards Lovecraft or Michael
> 	Moorcock, so in that case, it's not really "Satan, Lucifer (aren't
> 	they the same being?), or Glenn" but Chutulu (sp?), Elric or Fire 
> 	Clown. At least it is down in the depths of obscurity.
> 
> wei hao
> Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
> "Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
>  we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
>  control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
From: TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Who can here me???
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:50:25 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1993Jan26.171442@informatik.uni-kl.de>,
o_swient@informatik.uni-kl.de (Oliver Swienty) says:
>
>Keywords:
>
>
>Help!!!!
>Is there anybody out there who can here or see me???
>Please answer me ?
>I didn't get new news since several days!!!!
>Please mail me soon!!!
>
>
>    Olli.
>

Obviously a freshman who has trouble finding the power button on
his computer.  This is a METAL newsgroup, not alt.help.me.I.am.lonely!!!!
Learn the difference!!!!

--the mocking religion of hatred that burns in the night
Suaron
From: v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (LIFE IS ALOT LIKE CHEESE...)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Hellstar
Keywords: hellstar
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:13:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1k3dp8EINNq0b@uni-erlangen.de>, jnbienle@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Joey Bienlein) writes...
>jbbg0390@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Flash..ahhh! Savior of the Universe!  ) writes:
> 
> 
> 
>>A friend of mine is looking for any CD's of the group Hellstar...Does anyone
>>out there know about this group or where I can obtain the CD's?  My friend (
>>who doesn't have a net account) is particularly interested in the Nosfuratu
>>disk of theirs.
> 
>Oh yeah, good old HELSTAR!!!
>For sure I know this Band (GREAT!!!), but it's very hard
>get stuff of 'em.
>There's only one LP left available, the Burning Star I think
>was the name from.
>CDs??? No I never saw one...
> 
                                   ...JOEY...


      Burning Star was their first and is not available on cd.(to my knowledge)
      Remnants of War (my favorite) is also hard to find and not on disk
      Distant Thunder and Nosferatu are both available on cd to those
      who can find them(I suggest the special order route)
             Good luck!!
                                          Mandrake
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Infectious Grooves- new album??
From: <WK60BUSW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 27 Jan 1993 10:01:31 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

There is a newbie coming out in early february or so I believe (february or mar
ch) and then the grooves are going to open for - are you ready - Suicidal!  Mik
e muir has one hell of a job in sotre for him on this tour.

normy norm
From: aesbl1ajm@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Steve Vai? OK. GET SOME SATRIANI, BUD.clo
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:19:53 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <phlegm.728082732@cs1.bradley.edu>, phlegm@cs1.bradley.edu (Kevin Bourrillion) writes:
> st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> 
>>I unfortunatly have not heard much of Vai to give my opinion.
> 
> The main difference I can see between Vai and Satriani is that Steve
> Vai overproduces his songs big time.. there's usually a million
> synthesized effects, and voices, and even cannons in one song.  Joe S.
> is mostly just straight-out guitar rock n' roll (the way I like it).
> 
> --
The one problem that Steve Vai has got is that when he is recording, he
stops about every 5 notes or so to check all the levels, whereas Satch
just records, the vast majority of the stuff of Blue Dream where other
musicians were used was done in one _take_ such as the bass in Bells of Lal.

Steve's problem is that everything has got to be perfect.

Adam McCormack
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: u906789@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Mark Julian Turner)
Subject: Re: Japan Releases...
Organization: University of Tasmania (Australia)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:11:22 GMT

In article <26JAN199308461198@zeus.tamu.edu>, dlm4731@zeus.tamu.edu (MAREK, DAVID LESLIE) writes:
> 
> I know that this is a vague question and all, but I've always wondered about
> this.  Why is it that so many bands releases what I would term "special
> releases" in Japan only.  I know that some Iron Maiden stuff was different,
> Primus had two extra songs on the Sailing the Seas.. CD, and hell, even
> Metallica released So What on the Metallica CD.  Why???
> 
> Dave

In an interview with Lars Ulrich I read he said that in Japan imported versions of
albums are acutally *cheaper* than the domestic Japanese releases! So the Japanese
companies always try to have extra tracks or some other bonus to make people
buy the domestic versions instead of  imports. 

Mark.
From: campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Helloween
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:35:06 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Heard some days ago that Helloween are putting a new album next
spring. Anyone knows more? I was thinking how good it would be 
if Hansen was back in the band...
I also heard (on TV) that Halford will return with Judas Priest as
soon as he's finished with his solo project, that is FIGHT.
Another thing: if someone has some newsabout Scorpions, please post.

Erik The Viking


-- 
Greetings, my children              And if you have the courage
Come with me now                    To cross the rainbow bridge
And discover the magic              You may find
That lies beyond the sealed dreams  The Sacred Heart   -R.J.Dio, 1985.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: Mercyful Fate
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:34:29 GMT

In article <105188@netnews.upenn.edu> ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham) writes:
>In article <1993Jan15.045558.4689@cc.umontreal.ca> campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:
>>Hi. Can someone please tell me the name of an FTP site where I can get the
>>lyrics of "Melissa" by Mercyful Fate? Or if someone has them, please mail
>>'em to me.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>Erik The Viking
>
>I second this!  I'd really like to see the lyrics to _Melissa_.  I sincerely
>hope, however, that they are better than the lyrics to _Don't Break The Oath_,
>which are weak at some points.  ("The Oath" itself, however, has awesome 
>lyrics.)  I know that cs.uwp.edu doesn't have them, and I don't know where 
>else to look.

	Are the lyrics not included with the cassette?  I have the vinyl and 
the inner sleeve has the lyrics printed on it.  Unfortunately, I don't have the
patience to type them in.

Can you hear me?
						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
                                                     __   __            
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                                                    |[====|||||||||||[::}
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:02:30 EST
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Iron Maiden Re: (no subject given)

In article <C18330.38x@cs.psu.edu>, ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward) says:
>
><TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>|Fear of the Dark was a pathetic attempt to return to Maiden's past...with
>|lyrics that sounded like they were to stupid to be made into earlier songs
>|that were thrown together for this album.

>I refuse to concede that you are an authority on lyrics, since you don't
>know when to use the proper adverb meaning "excessively."

>|Also Iron Maiden can suck my dick for dropping Riggs as there artist.

>Riggs was not dropped, as you obviously don't know. The new guy is just an
>addition. By the way, I don't think you should use the pronoun-adjective
>homonym of the personal pronoun, since it is awkward and downright stupid
>to use the former in your context.

Well let's see, I've read more than one article where they claimed
Riggs artistry wasn't good enough for there music.  So they went out
and had a contest to get a new artist that better reflects the
band.  They will use Riggs if they feel his work is good enough
for them.

Notice to, all Iron Maidens new singles (Minus Be Quick...)  They are
all pictures, not anyones art.  Until this album, Iron Maiden have
had a drawning on the cover of every single except one.  Running Free
Live.

Also I doesn't matter if this guy is a new addition.  Nobody but Riggs
should draw Eddie for the band.  If they are going to use a new artist
he shouldn't draw Eddie or anything that resembles Eddie.

Fuckin' don't tell me I don't know what the fuck I'm talkin' about.  Up
until this album I've collected every cd of maiden's I came across,
totalling 30 or so.  Canning Riggs with a psuedo-Eddie was the straw
that broke the camels back, cause even if the album sucked I at least
had a good picture!!!!

Iron Maiden can blow me!  Jannick Gers should be canned!  Bruce should
hang it up cause he can't sing anymore!  And the song lyrics are as
interesting as bag of trash!

--the mocking religion of hatred that burns in the night
Suaron

(lyrics from Iron Maiden when they were still a good band)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Re: Good vs. Bad Mellower Music
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:15:44 GMT

st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

>I am not a total headbanger, and I admit that I only listen to hard rock and
>light heavy metal.  I do agree with you that there are too many pop-metal
>bands out there and I also happend to thing that they suck.  I love Dream
>Theater, who I would hardly call pop-rock, and I knot that they are discussed
>on some of the metal boards. 

Hmmm...maybe not yet, but I got money that says Dream Theater is gonna end up
that way whether they like it or not...eMpTyV has a hold of them now...look
out baby, crash and burn.  We'll see...that and the fact that so many
non-metal listeners I've seen are into these guys tells me that the future
looks bright for them, but from the glow on teeny boppers faces.  We'll see,
just a prediction.  Not knocking the music, but it's mellow enough for
non-metal-heads to think they're tough because they listen to it (not that I
think I'm tough for listening to metal, but you know these asses with the
pretty hair and the pretty cars and they are SO bad cuz they're Jammin' Guns
N Posers...)

						the man
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