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From: meek@fizzy.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Lindsay Meek)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Which EISA SCSI controller to buy?
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:39:56 GMT
Organization: Murdoch University

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>In article <EecI7FS00awDA7K4Jb@andrew.cmu.edu> km4c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ke-Wei Ma) writes:
>>   I was wondering if anybody can suggest a good EISA scsi controller
>>that I should get that will run well in both DOS and OS/2 environments? 
>>The first controller that comes to mind is the Adaptec 1740.  Has all
>>the incompatiblity been fixed between running it in enhanced mode under
>>OS/2 yet?

>The Adaptec is currently the favorite since it seems to support more
>devices under OS/2 than most anything else.  Adaptec has just released
>some new, patched drivers for their adapters (filename ahabeta.zoo,
>available via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu), so they are
>addressing problems as they come up, but I haven't heard of any
>problems since May.

Another EISA scsi controller for OS/2 is the Bustek SCSI-2 controller.
Its features are:
	SCSI-2 mode (10Mbytes/sec)
	EISA burst cycle transfers
	Floppy drive connector
	
It also has DOS and netware drivers. You will have to ask for OS/2 drivers
as they usually give you a DOS version (!!). I have no idea about support
for other scsi devices such as tapes. Does anyone else know about this?

Lindsay Meek
From: schimken@dimaggio.cs.rpi.edu (Nathan Schimke)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Memory speed (was Re: OS2 WINS!!  I give up!)
Summary: no problem
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:08:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.qwpya-f
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: all
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY

In article <1992Aug27.015416.6882@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm) writes:
>his experience, I very worried.  I *do* have a mixture of memory (on my IBM
>Model 70) which is certainly from different manufacturers, and almost certainly
>different speeds.  Does anyone else have any experience with using differing
>memory simms  with OS/2?   When IBM itself warns against this situation, 
>it sounds serious!   Carl Riehm.

My aged model 70 is running OS/2 just fine with memory from 4
different sources and of obviously different makes (price is the big
factor for me, not manufacturer :).  I don't remember all the speeds,
but I'd be surprised if they're all rated the same.  Simply put, the
warnings mean "your mileage may vary."

-- 
Nathan Schimke
schimken@cs.rpi.edu
From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Warning! The file SWAPPER.DAT is full!
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:36:50 GMT
Reply-To: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA



I have the latest kernal patch, etc.  I notice that once I reach my
swap limit (i.e. I still have 1.9M disk space left, but my SWAPPATH
line says issue a warning it if it goes under 2M), I can *never* get
any free space back, even by closing all open applications.  Has
anyone else noticed this?

- Jim

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From: jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: os/2 win3.1 support
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:22:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: nmt.1992Sep3.152215.4149
Distribution: comp
Organization: New Mexico Tech

In article <1992Sep2.1480.26263@dosgate> "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com> writes:
>
>
>T >Oh please oh please in September!
>
>Latest info from IBM reps suggests (tongue squarely in cheek) late 
>November.  So much for the "summer" CSD...
>

Well, whatever the date of the csd, does anyone know if the 3.1 support
is going to include the TrueType fonts (no flames over Adobe fonts). I've
got several AmiPro and Word documents (made before OS/2 was installed)
that look aweful under win-os2 because I used the true type fonts.

?????


-Jr


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg (Sriram N (Dr))
Subject: Re: DOS VDM can't see new file in A:
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:01:25 GMT

swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg (Sriram N (Dr)) writes:
: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
: : In article <1992Aug26.051615.2285@nuscc.nus.sg> swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg (Sriram N (Dr)) writes:
: : >I boot a DOS 5.0 image from C: to access a LAN.  Since I cant
: : >write to C: in the VDM (fsfilter messes the client programs, so I
: : >dont use it), I use the a: drive to transfer data from the HPFS
: : >drive (from other DOS or OS/2 windows) to the LAN.  C is FAT and
: : >D is HPFS.
: : >Curiously, the VDM can't see the new file and the dir statistics
: : >are not correct.  If I exitd the VDM and restart it, it seems to
: : >be ok.  
: : 
: : Stupid question, maybe: are you using FSACCESS to get at Drive A from
: : the DOS 5.0 image you started?
: 
: Actually, I should correct myself.  I just changed the STARTUP DRIVE of
: the DOS from drive A object to C.  The DOS 5 system files are on C:\
: but it is not an image created using VMDISK.  Should that make 
: a difference?
:
: Sriram

As I found out, it does make a difference.  I made an image file
using VMDISK from a bootup diskette in A: with config.sys including
fsfilter.sys and himem.sys from OS2\MDOS.  I also copied the sys
files to A:\.  Then everything works nicely.  I can write to C
and D from the specific DOS session.  However, in addition
to changing the STARTUP DRIVE to C:\imagefile  , I also changed
the DOS SHELL setting to C:\command.com c:\ /p.  Otherwise,
I cant login to the LAN properly (SYS3176 messages) despite
the fact a similar SHELL command is in the config.sys of the
image file.

Strangely, I cannot successfully bootup from A: even after
changing the STARTUP DRIVE and DOS SHELL appropriately
(DOS does bootup but the network programs crash).  But an
image file made from the same diskette works fine!
The network programs will work from A: only if fsfilter.sys
is excluded (with attendant deficiencies previously reported).

Thanks to Tan Min Jeng for suggestions.

Sriram

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lburgess@glacier.sim.es.com (Lewis Burgess)
Subject: Re: how use >1024 Zyl. HD
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
	<1992Aug31.154924.2578@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:56:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.154924.2578@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

   First off, I strongly recommend you enable sector translation on your
   hard disk adapter -- most have it.  It works well.

   Failing that, OS/2 2.0 will support more than 1024 cylinders, but with
   some restrictions.  I believe I list those in the FAQ List.

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I don't have sector translation and I looked through the FAQ and couldn't find
out how OS/2 supports more than 1024 with restrictions.  Does anyone out there
know how OS/2 does this and what restrictions there are?

Thanx,
-Lewis
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jld@datascope.com (Jay L. Davis)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 without Windows and DOS available?
Organization: Datascope Corp.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:07:29 GMT

In article <714334950snx@feki.toppoint.de> marten@feki.toppoint.de (Marten Feldtmann) writes:
>I would like to know, if there is a package of OS/2 2.0 available
>without Windows 3.0 and DOS?
>
>If not a public product -- would it be possible to get this from IBM --
>of course for less money ... has anyone heard of something like this.
>
> MF
>
>

Not that I know of. You can, however, choose not to install them so that
you save on disk space.

How much cheaper do you want it?

---Jay Davis
From: adf@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Brian Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: How do I JOIN drives in os/2 or How do I make a sym link?
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:00:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

I want to link a collection of different hpfs file systems.  If I were in dos
I would Join them and If I were in UNIX I would make a sym link but I only 
have half an operating system and I have been unable to locate any information
on how to do such a simple process.  If any one can confirm if this ability
is in os/2 and how you do it Please do it.

Thanks

Brian Moore
adf@cc.purdue.edu
From: waynet@pendragon.CNA.TEK.COM (Wayne Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: AMI Fast Disk with OS/2 ??
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:55:19 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond, Oregon

Has anyone installed OS/2 2.0 on a machine with an AMI EISA SCSI "Fast
Disk" controller?  The last FAQ indicates possible problems with AMI
SCSI adapters and a potential workaround (slight of hand with
installation diskettes to select generic INT13 support).  I'd like to
know in particular, however, if there are any problems with the Fask
Disk controller (since I'm considering buying a machine with this
controller).

Wayne Turner (waynet@pendragon.cna.tek.com)
From: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: os/2 win3.1 support
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:48:08 EST
Reply-To: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Thompson wrote on 09-01-92 regarding OS/2 WIN3.1 SUPPORT *BETT:

T >My my.  Maybe that's why it has taken so long...IBM has been 
T >bug-fixing Windows 3.1.

I think they would have been better off fixing their own code first.  I 
haven't found any bugs in 3.1 yet after heavy use since April.  I have 
however witnessed a number of OS/2 "anomalies" until I left the OS behind.

T >Oh please oh please in September!

Latest info from IBM reps suggests (tongue squarely in cheek) late 
November.  So much for the "summer" CSD...

Roj



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From: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Can't delete an icon
Keywords: can't delete an icon, readonly
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:23:51 GMT
Reply-To: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA), Germany

In article <1992Aug27.000608.27738@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:

>I have an icon on my desktop that I can not get rid of. Here is how I
>created it.
>
>I dragged a new program out of the template folder onto the desktop.
>I Set it as a dos window and in the settings, put D:\ (a dos boot drive)
>into the Dos image to boot section [granted, I was experimenting/playing a
>bit]. I filled nothing in in the program to run section on the first
>settings page. I closed the settings, and everything looked ok. I ran the
>program (double clicked the icon), the WPS restarted itself. 
>
>So I decided that I'd had enough messing around for one night and decided
>to delete the icon. NOT! It has no delete entry in its pop up menu. I can't
>delete it via the window list, the details view of the WPS, the DEL key,
>nothing. I tried moving it to different places, changing many settings (The
>D:\ in the settings is long gone) and I can not delete it. 
>
>Anybody know what I have done, and how to undo it. I definitely do not feel
>like recereating os2.ini, I have just reinstalled OS/2 (converted my boot
>drive from FAT to HPFS) and don't feel like setting up my desktop again.

Something similar (I don't remember exactly) happened to me.
I created a program object for MAHJONGG.EXE (PM app') from ftp-os2
using a template. When I tried to start MahJongg, the WPS
and/or the program object was fouled up. This included the object
being undeletable. I tried a great variety of actions on it,
including changing it's settings, moving it to a FAT drive
and destroying the EAs there altogether, but that object was immortal.
Well, nearly. Finally I succeded by:

1. Moving it onto A:\ by:

   a) Selecting it

   b) Selecting Move... from it's menu

   c) Selecting the Path (not drive) tab

   d) Entering A:\ (or just A: -- I can't remember)

2. Moving it to a subdirectory on A: the same way as above

3. Deleting that directory (I don't remember which way)

Then it was gone which I verified by a Search.
I think I also reformatted the disk and verified
that there weren't any EAs left.

I hope this helps.

Maybe this is another item for the FAQ/a separate "problem FAQ"!

Best wishes,

Horst
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: branham@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Tom Branham, Biophysics Grad. Brandeis)
Subject: Re: 0s2 compilers
Reply-To: branham@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 01:12:27 GMT

I stand corrected :)   Only got ahold of my copy of the C-set just
a couple of weeks ago now myself.....Just out of curiousity how many other
folks out there using the C-set?  How many folks using the Watcom or 
Zortech or g??  Also someone asked about educational prices, as I remember
Watcom (or was it Midway???  Did I forget to mention they have a 32Bit
compiler for OS/2 too??? [I am not known for my wonderfull Memory %}  All
corrections welcome %) ] ) was giving a student price of something close
to $250.
                            ..........Tom Branham

.sig   Please excuse Tom from a .sig today as he does not feel well.   
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Out of memory error. 6M left though. HELP!
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:20:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.124051@axion.bt.co.uk> djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson) writes:
> |> 
> |> >Are you by any chance running the *new* kernel?
> |> >I suspect it may have a bug :-(
> |> 
> |> I am afraid I am, can anyone verify the bug though? I
> |> thought it was
> |> supposed to fix the memory problem but it seems it
> |> doesn't. I still
> |> find that when I return to the startup state, - that is
> |> close everything
> |> I started since startup -, the amount of memory left is
> |> far less than
> |> the amount I started with. I do have to >16Mb patch
> |> installed though.
> |> 
> Yes, I can verify this - I had the same problem with the new
> kernel - this was
> confirmed as a bug by the IBM help people in the UK. A fix is
> unlikely before
> the release of OS/2 2.1 or whatever it's going to be called,
> however watch
> software.watson.ibm.com as they could be wrong !

I discovered something that might be useful. If you have any DOS programs
running and they don't need to be active in the background.....then turn off
the background execution in the settings. If you DON'T, then they stay in
memory - doing nothing - and you get these annoying out-of-memory errors
because.......as often as not......you ARE out of memory.
 
Steve
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From: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: SYS3171 at desktop start
Keywords: SYS3171, desktop, WPS, DOSCALL1.DLL
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:07:45 GMT
Reply-To: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA), Germany

Hello.

Since two or three days, I am having a problem
*every time* the desktop is started during *booting*
(that is, not when it's *restarted*).

The desktop opens (the "animation" shows this),
but no objects are displayed. Mouse clicks have no effect.
Ctrl+Esc causes a message box to come up after a few seconds
which says that the desktop isn't responding,
offering me to close it.

When I select that, another message box appears,
telling me that SYS3171 occurred (error c000005 at 1a02c0a9)
which couldn't be handled due to unsufficient stack memory,
and that the process was ended. Also displayed is 'DOSCALL1.DLL 0002'
(which is a familiar thing to me from previous errors).

When I select to close the program,
the desktop gets restarted (as expected), but no object views are started
(or only minimized/hidden ones, I don't remember).

This problem is *not* caused by:

* the "new" kernel as opposed to the old one
  (well, I didn't change the swapfile info when trying this)

* a corrupted DOSCALL1.DLL

* a corrupted PMSHELL.EXE

* objects being restarted

  - due to the settings in CONFIG.SYS

  - due to the desktop being a work folder
    (or whatever this is called in English)

    (One of the things I tried was unchecking this
     before restarting the system.
     Once this change seemed to have been lost
     but was kept later.)

Any help or information will be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes,

Horst
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Disappearing windows
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:50:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.190302.13976@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> mcollins@singha.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael J. Collins) writes:
>I haven't seen this problem discussed yet, so I thought I bring it up
>to see if anyone else is experiencing it...
>When I run certain (I assume older) OS/2 shareware packages that write
>to stdout in an OS/2 window, the display flashes to full-screen, the
>apps write to it, then my window comes back---with no output displayed
>in it.  I can partially get around the problem by piping the output
>through more or page---the window still disappears momentarily, but
>comes back with the output nicely displayed in it.
>HOWEVER, sometimes the window *doesn't* come back, and it disappears
>from the Task List also.  So...  I have to change the session settings
>to go the current session instead of spawning a new one, then click on
>the icon to bring the current session back, then change my session
>settings back to the way I like them.  What a pain!

A couple workarounds:

(1) Start such applications/utilities from a full screen OS/2 command
line session;

(2) MARK or TAG these applications as "window compatible" -- both of
these utilities are available via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Do ARCHIVES of this newsgroup exist?
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 16:41:27 GMT

Please do not crosspost within the OS/2 hierarchy in the future.  Note
the followup line.

In article <anderson.24.714921056@mayo.edu> anderson@mayo.edu (Alfred I. Anderson) writes:
>Several months ago there was a discussion about installing the OS/2 ver 2 
>upgrade package on a virgin disk.  The upgrade wants to find either DOS or 
>OS/2 v1.3 on the disk before allowing installation to proceed.  There were 
>comments as to how to circumvent this.

A zero length file named RUP.RUP on Diskette 1, I believe, was the
solution.  Just create such a file using your favorite utility.

However, putting DOS on the hard disk, first, is trivial -- a FDISK
followed by FORMAT C: /S is sufficient.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Warning! The file SWAPPER.DAT is full!
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:09:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.105329.23961@ugle.unit.no> hafting@Lise.Unit.NO (Helge Hafting) writes:
>I tried to run a program that eats memory until os/2 runs out of it.
>I found that the swapfile shrinks after stopping the program, but
>it don't happen immediately.  The machine may be idle for a while,
>or I can do something else, 
>( wich don't require much disk space, of course), and suddenly
>os/2 decides to reduce the swapfile.  
>The swapfile is never reduced to its minimum of 2MB even if I close
>everything, it insists on at least 3.5MB.
>Either something strange is going on, or perhaps IBM is
>making bad patches now so that 2.1 will look as a big improvement?

Spend half a minute thinking about this behavior, then ask yourself,
"If I were designing a virtual memory system, isn't this the way I
would implement it for best performance?"

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: gyan@unixg.ubc.ca (Gyan P. Sinha)
Subject: Re: NEC Silentwriter2 model 95
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:55:18 GMT

In <87605@netnews.upenn.edu> zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla) writes:

>>What postcript laser printers does everybody else use with OS/2?

>I use the Model 90 using the Apple Laserwriter II as my driver - no problems
>that I can see in output.

>>Do the model 90 drivers work with
>>it?

>Do drivers for the Model 90 exist?  Where can they be gotten?

I thought they were included with GA. At least thats what I think I use
with my SW Model 95.

Gyan P. Sinha
UBC, Vancouver.


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