From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Why are we different?
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 06:23:06 GMT

In article <Jan.4.00.29.56.1993.7913@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
jin@gandalf.rutgers.edu (GJ) writes:
>paulko@wolf.cs.washington.edu (Paul Ko) writes:
>>At what cost? I don't know about Taiwan or Beijing, but the Japanese public
>>school system isn't nearly as good as many seem to think. 

It's better than any Chinese-cu school system; most children would be far
better served under the Japanese-cu school system (imperfect as it might
be) than the Chinese-cu school system.

>When I was a 7th grader in Taiwan, I was so sick of the Taiwanese education
> system that I swore I will never have my children educated in Taiwan. 

Bravo to Mr. Jin for having the guts to say this.

>The system had all what Japanese kids hate, only worse- we had military
> training at the same time. We were not allowed to have hair longer than 0.25
> inch or would be punished. Boys and girls were separated, and we were not
> allowed to be seen together(even in our private time). For 6 days a week, We
> had to be in school before 7 AM to clean the school(from grass to public rest
> room, which were really dirty) for 40 minutes. If the school was not clean

That it's dirty doesn't surprise me.   But I'll just leave it at that.

> enough, students had to stay after school or would be beaten without mercy.

Typically Chinese-cu.  I applaud Mr. Jin for having the guts to describe
a typical day in the life of poor children who must grow up under Chinese-cu
"teachings" and society.

Note that "beaten without mercy" might shock some of you who had a
Western-cu education; however, this is "normal" behavior in Chinese-cu
society.  "Being beaten", "getting smacked around", "geting whipped
by a belt", etc. is normal behavior in Chinese-cu society.

Most Chinese-cu would just dismiss it as a "normal" part of growing.

Yeah.  Right.  And I've got an eggroll, made by baboons, that I want
to sell those twits.  Say what?  They want to buy?

>We then stood under the homicide sun for an hour to listen to KMT political
> bullshit. The strength of sunshine in southern Taiwan is at least ten times

If only the Taiwanese-ge (who outnumber the Chinese-ge 5.7 to 1 on 
Taiwan) had the guts to declare independence, then the West and Japan
could help alleviate the situation.

>of that of New Jersey.  Many students couldn't stand the torture( remember
> we didn't have hair). They became ill or fainted right away. 

If I had been there and seen the sight of some poor Chinese-ge girl
fainting because of the KMT baboon mouthing off in the loudspeaker
and demanding that everyone be tortured under his speech, I would have
applied by good foot (and leg) up his you-know-what.  That'll teach
him.

Chinese-cu have no understanding of fundamental human decency.  I applaud
Mr. Jin for having the guts to post this stuff, describing a typical day
in the life of poor children who have to suffer in Chinese-cu society
and it's education system.

Those of you who were educated in the West-cu will be shocked at reading
Mr. Jin's post.  Well, just how do you think those poor kids feel?
By the way, this crap happens _all_ _the_ _time_.  Most Chinese-cu
people dismiss this torture as a "normal" part of growing up.

Yeah.  Right.  And I've got this bridge on Jupiter that I want to sell
those twits....  Say what?  They want to buy?  Typical.

>It's only the morning torture. We had the same afternoon torture before we
>left
> school at around 5:30 PM. Then we had to go to cram school to reduce the 
>chance of been hit because of an imperfect score in school. Some teachers set 

Corporal punishment has long been a facet of Chinese-cu society.
As I've said so many times before, Chinese-cu simply have no understanding
of fundamental human decency.  Those who truly understand Chinese-cu
society know this to be true.

"to reduce the chance of been hit" certainly corrobates much of what
I've said over the past year on this newsgroup.  The fact that a
Chinese-cu mother scribbles the word "PIG" on her daughter's head
in Hong Kong for not getting all "A's" is normal behavior by the
standards of Chinese-cu society.

>a rule in their class: one hit for every point less than perfect for every 
>quiz. Sometime we had more 20 quizzes a day. We were taking  in average 15 
>courses each semester. The quantity and depth of school work was many times
>of corresponding American school. 

This does not make for a well-rounded individual.  The people who
graduate from the American-cu system are more likely to oppose an oppresive
gov't and to question the existence of the nation itself.  People who
graduate from the Chinese-cu system are more likely to accept
the status quo and to turn his back on oppression and suffering.

(Case in point:  Taiwan.)

Sure.  The Chinese-cu graduate might find the solution to
x^2 + x + 1 = 3 faster than an American-cu graduate, but the Chinese-cu
stumbles on the following:

      Write an essay explaining the purpose of womankind.
      Is the notion of individual rights an important
      adjunct to that purpose?  Please exlain, drawing
      examples from world history and your own personal life.

American-cu grade: B or higher
Chinese-cu grade: nothing (grades below F- have no designation)

>The  student life in Taiwan is too painful to detail. Generally, the system

Remember.  This newsgroup is soc.culture.asian.AMERICAN; note
the "AMERICAN" in the title.  Mr. Jin, in the future, should tie
his articles, in some way, with Asian-American.

Here's an example of how:

> preserved pretty much the pre-WWII  Japanese system plus political brainwash
>that KMT learned  from Communist. You guys have the
> chance to be educated here should be thankful to your parents.

No, we people, not guys (let's not be sexist--this is the USA,
not a Chinese-cu country), having the chance to be educated here
should be thankful to

        the Western-cu educational system.

Asian-Americans are glad that they have not been educated and
brutalized under the Chinese-cu educatonal system.

Their parents had little to do with the educational system here.
We should all thank God (or Fate) that Western-cu society exists.
Think of the alternative.

It is chilling.
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