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From: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: 395 -> 295 North
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:46:19 GMT
Reply-To: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NavSurfWarCen, CarderockDiv (ex-"Taylor Model Basin")

In dc.general, jim@visix.com (Jim Edwards-Hewitt) writes:
>
>>When I used to commute from Arlington to Beltsville, it took me weeks
>>before I found a way to get from 395 to 295 north without making an
>>illegal U-turn.

    If the illegal U-turn you were referring to was the one just east
of 295 on Penn Ave, you no longer have to take it.  They installed two
left hand turn lanes off of Penn Ave (heading east) that put you right
onto the entrance ramp to 295 north.  The lanes and lights have been
there for over a year, but there are no signs as to where they go.
This is the quickest way from 395 to 295 north.
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From: Joe.Keenan@p1.f401.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Keenan)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Whither Paul Harris (WTEM)?
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:35:14 -0500

In a msg on <Aug 22 16:14>, Neil Ottenstein of 1:109/401 writes:

 NO> If you check yesterday's (Friday the 22nd) Washington Post there 
 NO> is a mention about it in the Sports Waves column.  I also 
 NO> called them up and the basic thing they said was that most of 
 NO> the listeners supposedly wanted 100% sports so the Harris in 
 NO> the Morning Show was canned.  If you've been listening for a 
 NO> while, you might have heard Paul Harris tell of his 
 NO> compuserve e-mail address.  I've sent him a message asking 
 NO> him about this and where he might be going.  If I get a reply 
 NO> I'll try to post the info.

Is this the same Paul Harris that disappeared rather suddenly from WCXR?  All of
a sudden, no morning Harris show.  And no mention where he went either.

BTW - WCXR's new morning jock just started this week.  Name of 'Barsky'?  He's
from Houston, I think.  I'm NOT impressed.

joe
From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Metro and Concerts
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:15:27 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <CHRIS.92Aug18111755@endgame.gsfc.nasa.gov> chris@endgame.gsfc.nasa.gov (Chris Shenton) writes:
>I don't see why my taxes which subsidize Metro should be used to get
>you home from a concert which is a privately owned commercial
>enterprise. 
>
Because, with the volume of passengers leaving the stadium, it would
seem to me that that would be a money-maker for Metro, not costing
anyone any tax dollars.

And Metro is in the public service business. It seems to me that, by
ignoring a large group of people, Metro fails in that regard.

>If you want to complain to someone, why don't you suggest to RFK, U2,
>or the concert promoter that they start 30 minutes earlier so everyone
>can make their train? That wouldn't cost anybody anything.

Reasonable solution, except that most concerts now have very elaborate
light shows and projection systems, for which complete darkness is required.
You couldn't start the show much earlier.
-- 
The world is not analog. The world is digital,
with an incredible number of bits.
Arthur C. Adams (not the comic-book artist)                        <fnord>
E-Mail acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil
From: Nelson.F..Steele@p807.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Nelson F. Steele)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Let's talk about secret installations
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:05:18 -0500

On 8/12/92 Dave Pipes x4552 said to All: 


  DP> Nelson.F..Steele@p807.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Nelson F. Steele)
  DP> writes:
  > On 8/10/92 Dave Pipes x4552 said to All:
  > 
  DP> For example: If they did monitor to the extent possible in 1984, why
  DP> would the FBI even have to tap someone to get evidence?  They'd just
  DP> call NSA and get the tapes...
  DP> 
  > In a stunning example of inter-agency cooperation.  NSA monitored
  > Americans in the 60s (Puzzle Palace).  If they're doing it now I think
  > they'd be reluctant to tell anyone else.
  > 
  DP> The previous poster, to whom I replied, painted a picture of a 1984
  DP> style world where the government just does whatever it pleases,
  DP> brutally suppressing the rights of individuals.  I tried to point out
  DP> that things would be very different if that was indeed happening.
  DP> 
  DP> The fact that they did it in the 60's, to a few people, and handed the
  DP> info over does not mean that they do it now.  And remember, there were
  DP> active terrorists in the US in the 60's - surely keeping an eye on
  DP> them was a good thing.  There were actually full scale assaults on
  DP> government facilities on a few occasions, solely for the purpose of
  DP> gaining weapons.  So there are situations where monitoring is wise.
  DP> 
  DP> I repeat - if the information is being abused, we would see some
  DP> evidence of it, sooner or later.  Much as some enjoy the aura of fear
  DP> such assertions create, we are not living in a police state.
  DP> 
  I largely agree.  America is *not* a police state in which individual rights
are "brutally" suppressed - there are still enough of those around.  And that's
not what I intended to suggest.  It is my *opinion* however that when the
government collects intelligence on Americans the goal is political, not public
safety.  I think you are being *very* gentle with the government over such
violations of privacy and law.  What's wrong about the government monitoring
Americans is not "if the information is being abused" but the collection of such
information in the first place.  Finally, as you point out, that they did it in
the past does not mean that they're doing it now, and I hope they're not.
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: jim@visix.com (Jim Edwards-Hewitt)
Subject: 395 -> 295 North
Reply-To: jim@visix.com
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA
Distribution: dc
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 21:25:46 GMT


A while back, as part of another discussion, I posted:

>When I used to commute from Arlington to Beltsville, it took me weeks
>before I found a way to get from 395 to 295 north without making an
>illegal U-turn.

Several people were interested in the route, but it was a while before I
got to check on the street and exit names.  I could remember how to do it,
but not how to tell anyone else to do it, and it's good I checked, because
the names on the exits are not all the same as the names on the maps.  But
here it is:

The fastest route is to take the exit for MLK Jr. Avenue, which feeds onto
295 south (keep right), and then loop around the cloverleaf at Howard Road
to go north.  If you want to avoid the loop-around, you can also take South
Capitol Street, but that involves an unpleasant merge and a light, and is
slower besides.  Both of these also work for the reverse route (295 south
to 395 south).

	-- Jim
From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Stereo repair
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:26:11 GMT
	<1992Aug12.135849.18797@wam.umd.edu>
	<zben-120892170309@zben-mac-ii.umd.edu>
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Followup-To: dc.general
Distribution: dc
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.


>>>>> "Charles" == Charles B. Cranston <zben@ni.umd.edu> writes:

    Charles> I'm quite happy with The Electronic Clinic on Del Ray in
    Charles> Bethesda.

Interestingly enough, I was also pretty happy with EC the one time I
used them.  I've got a really old workhorse AIWA receiver which had
blown its channels a few times.  I didn't even expect the thing to be
repairable because of its age, but got recommended to EC, so I gave
them a shot.  They fixed it and I got 4 more years of service out of
the unit.  The price was reasonable too.

The unit has since given up the ghost for the last time and I want one
of them high tech new fangled jobs...
From: Charles.Conlow@f100.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charles Conlow)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Bookstores
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:35:34 -0500

In a message dated 17-Aug-92 22:42:34, Shankha Mitra wrote:

SM> Does anyone know of good used and new bookstores out there?  I'm
SM> not looking for comic books, sci-fi books or technical books.  I'm rather
SM> interested in obscure or out-of-print books on anthropology and
SM> linguistics. I would think that only the relatively large ones would have
SM> these.

You might try "Second Story Books", on 'P' Street NW, one block West of Dupont
Circle. They have LOADS of stuff and some of it's pretty arcane. They also BUY
used books.

Charles 

Newsgroups: dc.general
From: skip@eco.twg.com (Skip Koppenhaver)
Subject: Dulles Toll Road
Organization: The Wollongong Group (East Coast Operations)
Distribution: dc
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:46:38 GMT


On Sept. 1 the newly added third lane of the Dulles Toll Road becomes
HOV3. Boy! That really steams my clams! Why should I have to pay 75
cents to sit in traffic when the people on 270 and 395 can do it for
free? What did the Herndon and Reston residents do to deserve the only
HOV toll road in America? Who's bright idea was it to spend all that
money expanding the Toll Road and then not let anyone use it?

Yeah, I know, I know, they're trying to encourage carpooling. I'm
sorry but I need access to my car during the day and the number of
hours I work per day varies. A better way of reducing the number of
commuters would be to have an *express* shuttle which ran from
Herndon/Reston to the Tyson Corner area at regular intervals. Metrobus
lines from Herndon/Reston make too many damn stops to be useful. Money
would have been better spent on a shuttle rather than a road only 7%
of the population can use.

The past few months have been great... the third lane was completed
but the HOV wasn't in effect yet. There were no more long lines at the
toll plaza (Now the long lines are at the Herndon and Reston exits,
but that's another story). It's amazing what a difference that extra
lane makes. But now they want to take it away from us.

HERNDON AND RESTON RESIDENTS UNITE!!! Go to the window, stick your
head out and yell, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it
anymore!". Then go write your state representative and tell him the
same thing! Maybe if we make enough noise they'll remove the HOV
restriction.

--
Skip Koppenhaver
skip@eco.twg.com
From: aaron@eng.umd.edu (Aaron Falk)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Bookstores
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:29:39 GMT
Reply-To: aaron@eng.umd.edu (Aaron Falk)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <1992Aug17.214234.16673@clsi.COM>, shankha@clsi.COM (Shankha Mitra) writes:
> 
> Does anyone know of good used and new bookstores out there?  I'm not looking
> for comic books, sci-fi books or technical books.  I'm rather interested in
> obscure or out-of-print books on anthropology and linguistics.  I would think
> that only the relatively large ones would have these.
> 
> So far I know of Borders and MD Book Exchange.  Any others?
> 


Reiter's Books on K Street and 21st, NW in Washington has a gigantic selection of technical books. I think their collection also covers linguistics and anthropology. I would look there before MD Book Exchange. I know they have hours on the weekends. Try calling first.
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: system@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (Marty Anilane)
Subject: Re: Oldies dance clubs
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: system@gnd1.wtp.contel.com
Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:41:59 GMT

In article <168469BD2.M23401@mwvm.mitre.org>, M23401@mwvm.mitre.org writes...
> 
>   I went to Deja Vu this weekend and found out to my total disgust that
>they are now playing new disco type music on weekends.  Does anybody
>know of good places to go dancing that still play a lot of 60's music?
>You can either post info here or e-mail to lkahn@mitre.org.  Thanks,
>                               Larry
> 
Studebakers in Rockville is an oldies club. It gets packed, and expect to
pay a cover charge. They play music from the 50s thru the 90s.

Checkers in Tyson Corner was opened less than a year ago. I haven't
been there lately, but there was no cover and it was not very crowded. 
Subsequently the DJ played almost every request I had. Its located in
the Holiday Inn.
----------------
 Marty Anilane, GTE Contel Federal Systems, P.O. Box 10814, Chantilly VA. 22021
 Internet: "system@gnd1.wtp.contel.com"    (703) 818-4413
----------------
From: crawford@church.mitre.org (Randy Crawford)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Bookstores
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:39:03 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <714165925.F00002@blkcat.UUCP>, Charles.Conlow@f100.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charles Conlow) writes:
> In a message dated 17-Aug-92 22:42:34, Shankha Mitra wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know of good used and new bookstores out there?  

> You might try "Second Story Books", on 'P' Street NW, one block West of Dupont
> Circle. They have LOADS of stuff and some of it's pretty arcane. They also BUY
> used books.

Second Story is also in Bethesda (on Bethesda Ave.). They used to be by far the 
best used bookstore in the DC area until about 3 years ago when they moved from 
their dilapidated warehouse in Bethesda to the strip mall and later closed their 
Rockville store.  Now they are much smaller (and less of a bargain, I think).

How large is the DC store compared to the one in Bethesda?  Anyone?
 
-- 

| Randy Crawford        crawford@mitre.org        The MITRE Corporation
|                                                 7925 Colshire Dr., MS Z421
| N=1 -> P=NP           703 883-7940              McLean, VA  22102
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Gaithersburg Computer/Hamfest
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:53:34 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

Andy.Cohn@f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Andy Cohn) writes:

>Time:     8am to 3pm
>Place:    Montgomery Co. Fairgrounds, Gaithersburg
>Cost:     Four or five dollars - I forget exactly
>Size:     Enormous
>Stuff:    New & used computer stuff, ham radio, misc electronics & junk
>Food:     Available; substantial lines; best to bring own chow
>Rating:   1------2------3------4------5------6------7------8------9---X--10

This is also the one advertised as featuring "children's and ladies's
activities."  When I pointed out the anachronism in this statement to
the Foundation for Amateur Radio (which organizes the whole thing) I was
rebuffed with a statement to the effect of, "go mind your own business,
you young whippersnapper."  Ah well...

Although I do agree with Andy, the old farts *DO* put together a nice
hamfest.  Just sorry I won't be in town to attend. *SIGH*

Paul W. Schleck

pschleck@unomaha.edu
From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Metro and Concerts
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:39:19 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: The Great Beyond

Is anyone else out there really annoyed at MetroRail and their
new policy about not running extra trains after concerts?

For those who missed the earlier thread, Metro no longer runs
extra trains after concerts at RFK. Trains stop leaving the station 
at the normally scheduled time, no matter what time the concert ends. 

At last night's U2 concert, Metro was passing out fliers to people getting
off at the Stadium/Armory Station before the concert, telling what time
you need to get to the station to be sure you'll get back. For those
of us who had long trips (I had to get back to Silver Springs), the time
was 11:30, the same time the concert ended.

It seems to me Metro just doesn't care about customer service; they're 
solely interested in not disturbing some precious schedule. I had to miss
the last thirty minutes of the concert, as did lots of other people,
just to avoid paying a huge cab fare to get back to my car.

I'm planning on writing a letter to Metro, asking them to pay for part
of my ticket. I figure I missed roughly a fourth of the concert, therefore
I'm asking for a check for $7.50. No, I'm not naive enough to believe
I'll get the money; I'm just curious to see if I get a response.
-- 
The world is not analog. The world is digital,
with an incredible number of bits.
Arthur C. Adams (not the comic-book artist)                        <fnord>
E-Mail acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil
Xref: sparky dc.general:1843 dc.forsale:1929
From: amunn@linus.umd.edu (Alan Munn)
Newsgroups: um.general,dc.general,dc.forsale
Subject: Scientific American and Nat'l Geographic
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:33:56 GMT
Distribution: dc

I have a bunch of Scientific Americans 1978-1991 which I would love to
give away to anyone who wants them.

I also have National Geographic ~1983 to  present which I would also
like to give away.

Any takers?  Please call me at (301) 585-9447.

P.S.  Does anyone know of somewhere that might want them?  A school or
something?  It seems a shame to throw them away.  Any suggestions welcome.

Alan Munn <amunn@umd5.umd.edu>

Newsgroups: dc.general
From: dpipes@spica.srg (Dave Pipes x4552)
Subject: Re: Let's talk about secret installations
Organization: just me
Distribution: dc
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:53:18 GMT
Followup-To: dc.general

In article <713548971.F00005@blkcat.UUCP> Nelson.F..Steele@p807.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Nelson F. Steele) writes:
>On 8/10/92 Dave Pipes x4552 said to All: 
>
>    DP>  For
>  DP> example: If they did monitor to the extent possible in 1984, why would
>  DP> the FBI even have to tap someone to get evidence?  They'd just call
>  DP> NSA and get the tapes...
> 
>In a stunning example of inter-agency cooperation.  NSA monitored Americans in
>the 60s (Puzzle Palace).  If they're doing it now I think they'd be reluctant to
>tell anyone else.

The previous poster, to whom I replied, painted a picture of a 1984 style
world where the government just does whatever it pleases, brutally suppressing
the rights of individuals.  I tried to point out that things would be very
different if that was indeed happening.

The fact that they did it in the 60's, to a few people, and handed the info
over does not mean that they do it now.  And remember, there were active
terrorists in the US in the 60's - surely keeping an eye on them was a good
thing.  There were actually full scale assaults on government facilities on
a few occasions, solely for the purpose of gaining weapons.  So there are
situations where monitoring is wise.

I repeat - if the information is being abused, we would see some evidence of
it, sooner or later.  Much as some enjoy the aura of fear such assertions
create, we are not living in a police state.

		David Pipes
For one thing, if we were, I could walk through Southeast DC at night...

robear@digex.com
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: heisen@packerssrg.af.mil (H. Lee Harmon x4974)
Subject: Car Repair
Organization: ARINC Research, Corp.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:43:40 GMT



I'm looking for recommendations on car repair places near Annapolis, MD.
I need to get a dent in my Toyota Tercel fixed.  

Thanks.


-- 
H. Lee Harmon

--
H. Lee Harmon
From: carm@cs.umd.edu (Richard Chimera)
Newsgroups: um.music,dc.general,cs.grad,um.general
Subject: Steely Dan [sic] tour dates?
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:33:15 GMT
Followup-To: um.music
Distribution: um
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742


I saw the "new" Steely Dan, now called the New York Rock and Soul Revue,
last night at Merriweather Post Pavillion.  It was so fantastic, so utterly
incredible, that I need to go to all the shows that are even remotely
feasible.  Say, within a 300 mile drive and on the weekend, or closer but
on a weekday.

Did anybody buy a concert shirt with the dates and cities on them?  (I
didn't even look at the T-shirt stands, that was kinda stupid.)
Or do you otherwise know the remainder of the tour schedule?  I am
desperate to find out where they'll be!!!!!!

thanx,
+Rick
-- 
  Richard "carm" Chimera, Lab Manager   | A population of sheep will eventually
  Human Computer Interaction Lab, U Md. | beget a government of wolves.
  A.V. Williams Bldg                    |   -- William Sloan Coffin
  College Park, MD  20742-3255    USA   |  
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: tale@ten.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Dulles Toll Road
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: dc
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:13:44 GMT

In <1992Aug13.154638.19536@eco.twg.com> skip@eco.twg.com (Skip Koppenhaver):

> On Sept. 1 the newly added third lane of the Dulles Toll Road becomes HOV3.

I rarely take the toll road because I find tolls like that in general
to be irksome, but even more so on my motorcycle.  My question is
whether the HOV lane, which is the far left lane that I am usually in
when I am on the toll road, will be open to motorcyclists as specified
in the federal highway funding bill which passed earlier this year.
Northern VA is one of two states which continues a no-motorcyclist
policy in (some) HOV lanes despite the federal mandate and the state's
lack of required proof that bikers would be a hazard in the lanes.
(Y'all are of course welcome to argue about how right the state is in
that regard, but I won't be a part of it this time around.)

Incidentally, I pretty much think that the toll plaza going up into
Rt 7 from toll road east is a crock too.  Then again, there is an
anomalous free entry point from just a quarter of a mile west of it.

It's sort of sad that the bullshit of the toll road encourages regular
commuters like me to actually use the secondary roads.

> HERNDON AND RESTON RESIDENTS UNITE!!! Go to the window, stick your
> head out and yell, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it
> anymore!". Then go write your state representative and tell him the
> same thing! Maybe if we make enough noise they'll remove the HOV
> restriction.

Do the latter, but not the former.  Yelling at the person who would
probably much rather be doing something else than collecting tolls
from hostile commuters --- and who doubtless has no more power than
you to change the system --- is just poor manners.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 12:39:31 EDT
From: <CARIAN@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject:    New Virginia Plates

What's the deal with the new Virginia license plates -- the ones with the
Blue Ridge Mountain scene on them?

Are these the new "standard" plates for Virginia or are they an option
that costs extra, like the various bicentennial and university plates?

Charles Arian
CARIAN@american.edu
an ex-Virginian