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From: jkilday@nlbbs.UUCP (Jack Kilday)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Frontend for Waffle UUCP Selection on PCBoard Systems
Date: 8 Nov 92 12:53:04 GMT
Organization: The Northern Lights BBS, Portland, ME  * 207-761-4782 *

I posted the following to SIMTEL20 last week.  It may be of interest
to a few here running PCBoard/Waffle (or contemplating same) and
wondering how they might support some downstream sites via UUCP.

*******
I have uploaded to WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil:

pd1:<msdos.bbs>
NLFE10.ZIP      NLFE v1.0: Frontend PCBoard for Internet/UUCP

The Northern Lights FrontEnd is a host communications program intended
for use with PCBoard BBS software.  It's purpose is to frontend that
code to allow selection of an alternative program to take the call.
Developed at the Northern Light BBS, this front-end was designed
for a multi-node environment (multi-tasker or LAN) specifically to
accommodate UUCP callers without being too obtrusive for regular BBS
callers.  The design also accommodates PCBoard door operations.  It is
in use at the author's site where UUCP calls are handled on any of
4 nodes with control being handed over by this front-end to the
Waffle v1.65 BBS package.  Supports extended comm port specifications
and opening speeds to 38,400.   Shareware.
*****

If you can't FTP or call the BBS directly, address a message to
file-server@nlbbs, any subject, and begin the text with the line:
get \temp\nlfe10.zip


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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: aliasing a.b.w->c.b.w considered harmful
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 17:13:48 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

-> Well, I figured out the other day the only way to make a newsgroup die,
-> but it's awfully rude... run a daemon that gets fed only that group, and
-> cancel any article that gets posted (or cross-posted) to the group.  When
-> users' articles start disappearing, they'll make an active effort to figure
-> out why.

In the case of alt.bbs.waffle I don't think that would work.  Most of
the systems carrying it, almost by definition Waffle systems that
ignore cancel messages.  

The users messages would not be disappearing from their own systems.



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From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: aliasing a.b.w->c.b.w considered harmful
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:55:47 GMT

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:

>eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder) writes:

>> fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
>> 
>> -> Well, I figured out the other day the only way to make a newsgroup die,
>> -> but it's awfully rude... run a daemon that gets fed only that group, and
>> -> cancel any article that gets posted (or cross-posted) to the group.  When
>> -> users' articles start disappearing, they'll make an active effort to figur
>> -> out why.

>Even better, how about 20 or 30 of these daemons? People might
>disbelieve 1 mail message, but if they get that many, they're
>going to stop using that group damn fast.

I might suggest that if DOS Waffle'rs get into a posting war with Internet
alt.* folks, you'll lose.  Remember, you pay for your news generally and
they don't.  They have kill files.  You don't.

Ignore a.b.w.
Change any followups you make to ignore it.
Or just exclude it from the systems you accept.

Either way, don't get into a war with the alt.* folks.  You'll lose
Remember the alt.cascade stuff last winter ?
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From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Questions, questions...
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 17:03:41 EST
Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA


1) Are there any benefits to using Waffle with a FOSSIL driver when my
modem is only 2400 baud? (I have BNU 1.70 )

2) Will Wafline Mail (1.0) work at all without a FOSSIL driver?

Sincerely,
Kalki Dasa


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: NetSum Program
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 10:42:50 GMT

kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
>I am running Waffle 1.65 under DOS 5 and here's what happens when I try
>to run the NetSum program (version 2.5):

>Can't find waffle line in static....

mail me your static file and I'll try it here.
(I wrote netsum...).


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: UUENCODEd file - Now what?
Keywords: UUENCODE UUUNENCODE BINARY ZIP DOWNLOAD
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:51:47 GMT
Distribution: vi

bcrock@happy.nuts.almanac.bc.ca (Brad Crockett) writes:

>I've downloaded a binary (CWEXP101.ZIP) from Halcyon.com.  It
>appears to be part of a mail message.  How do I get it out of
>there - or have I used the incorrect procedure to get the file?

if it's a .zip file, you need pkunzip to extract it
try "pkunzip filename.zip" 
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From: spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: complaints
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:54:46 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

chalk@lablues.UUCP (Greg french) writes:

> Why does everyone quote a 30 line message just to use it as an example to 
> flame. If it bothers you that much, just list the message number and we 
> can look back if we really care. Please don't present us with an endless 
> parade of quoted messages.

Genius solution. Your post was number 653 here. Go read 653 and tell me
what you see. Sheesh.

/kc


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From: dalew@twiki.UUCP (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FIDO gateway!!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:20:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: twiki.65k2TB2w165w
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:

> You might want to keep it handy for others, but I won't be needing it, since 
> gave up on Fidonet and have gone with Waffle exclusively.  Thanks for the
> info...

  I do have all my FD setup and configuration files online here since I
keep FD as a backup and and alternate mailer.  It only takes me about 30
minutes or so to switch mailers now and that is only because I have to
'port' my current mailer batch file and switch other things to be
compatible with the other mailer.

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From: david@csource.oz.au (david nugent)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FOSSIL driver & Windows 3.1
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 09:43:46 +1100
Reply-To: david@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

blackwlf@blackwlf.gwinnett.com (BlackWolf's Den Sysop) writes:

> That's what I do and it works fine....
> When I run Qmodem, I have a batch file do "BNU /u" and I
> can then do 57,600 on the port... 

Just in case you aren't aware, "bnu /l<port>:57600" locks the port
at that baud rate.


david



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From: tom@spud.kludge.com (Tom Lemos)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: complaints
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:11:53 PST
Organization: T.T.L.F.  San Francisco, CA

chalk@lablues.UUCP (Greg french) writes:

> Why does everyone quote a 30 line message just to use it as an example to 
> flame. If it bothers you that much, just list the message number and we 
> can look back if we really care. Please don't present us with an endless 
> parade of quoted messages.

yoo hoo! my message numbers are different from yours.. for one reason.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp)
Subject: Re: FOSSIL driver & Windows 3.1
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:58:18 GMT


Windows tries to control the port itself and overrides anything else.
Maybe you need a program like killcom which stops windows recognising the
port.  Killcom comes with the web shareware networking system. (web.zip)

Cheers
John

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: complaints
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:42:38 GMT

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

>Yes, it would... but I have never seen a Message-Id of "653".

You're quite observant.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Internet connections (was: Re: Free Interne<>odem Madness)
From: bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe)
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 08:30:53 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: 1776 Enterprises, Sudbury MA

cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen) writes:
> However, here the 9600 baud means that the speed of this connection is ap-
> prox. 9600 bits/sec. which is way too slow to be able to transport a com-
> plete feed.

That's pretty misleading.  I used to work at a site that had only a 9600-baud
leased line to the outside world, and we carried a full feed with no problem.
Of course if it had been a dial-up line, the line charges might have killed 
us, but we didn't care if the line was continually in use.

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From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FIDO gateway!!!
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 11:14:10 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas) writes:

> A local FIDO hub is seeking to add the alt. and some of the comp.
> newsgroups to his feed he has waffle and I have waffle, the question is
> how can he call and get his feed without me having to call him I have RTFM
> and am confused about whether this can be done or not!!  Anyone who might
> know how to do this I would really appreciate the setup!!
> \
> Thanks for the help!
>
> jim@jimmc.chi.il.us
>

Well, all he has to do is install Waffle's uucico, then set up an event in his
Fido-compatible mailer that would exit and drop to run a poll.bat or some such.
It's not that different from what you have with Waffle.

Now, for you to call him would be a bit more complicated on his side, since
he'd have to set up his fido mailer to understand uucico calling in.



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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 01:40:44 GMT

For reference, I tried mailing to an alias that was in /waffle/system/aliases,
using a local external editor, and it only posted the header.  Looks like the
| post handling is before the reading in of the message from _edit.

  Bill
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: uucico and a whole lot of other stuff...
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:55:04 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

jon%vector0.SAC.CA.US@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused) writes:

> If you aren't using a "special" editor, you're screwing up.  Normal DOS 
> editors might add CR/LF to the end of each line after you edit the file.  
> Messages to be batched only have LF's, no CR's.  I believe the DOS 
> version of 'vile' has an option for CR/LF or just LF line termination.
> Your messages might be junked by Cnews.

Are you sure about this?  I've been used the DOS 5.0 editor for several
months, and if you look at the file afterward, each line is terminated
with a CR/LF pair.  I haven't had any [perceived] problems, at least,
no site has mailed me to tell me that my article had been dropped.

If this is true, it is a bad thing -- there are plenty of us out there
using external editors!  I don't know how this could be checked unless
you were omnipotent, however.  :-)

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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Errors With Compress
Keywords: waffle bbs compress
Date: 2 Nov 92 12:45:48 GMT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

| fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

| And to the two guys who have the worst bandwidth posting wasteage, the
| one guy asking where he can get SPOLL by quoting about 60 lines re SPOLL
| and related issues, and the other guy who quoted a whole post re mailing
| lists  and then answered "YES" and that was it, well... PHHFFFFT!!

Maybe we could get Tom to put in quotes-to-new-text ratios.  Would be NICE!
Those "people" who quote screen after screen after screen then put in ONE
or TWO lines of new text should be string up by their toe-nails and pummeled
with a wet carp.


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From: david@csource.oz.au (david nugent)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Fastopen ...
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:48:40 GMT
Reply-To: david@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz (Pat Cain) writes:
> 
> > If you install Fastopen then you'll notice reading news is a lot faster
> > in groups that have lots of articles in them.  Definitely worth doing if
> > you're running Waffle on a slower machine (AT) without a disc cache.
> 
> I fail to see the logic in this.  To quote the MS-DOS 5.0 manual:
> 
> "Fastopen ... decreases the amount of time needed to open frequently used
> files."                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> "Every time you open a file, Fastopen records its name and location in
> the name cache.  If you later reopen [the file] ... the access time is 
> greated reduced."       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> So unless you are in the habit of re-reading your news on a regular basis,
> then I cannot see the benefit of installing Fastopen.


It also caches directories and retains in memory a record of where
the first cluster sizes of all directories down to any given access
path are located, so it doesn't have to phsically read the disk as
many times during a simple open call.

The side-effect is that access to directory functions is sped up on
non-cached systems.

The point here, is that you should try it before posting; Pat was
trying to be helpful to others, and it didn't warrant this type of
response. Even if it didn't work for you, that doesn't mean that what
he stated isn't correct for his setup (see below). Persumably, you're
just having a bad day.

FASTOPEN is a nice idea, but even at DOS 5.0 the program is buggy. It
causes problems when run in conjunction with some third-party cache
software, where the directory names, sizes and dates is not updated
correctly, so what you see by typing "DIR" or what applications see
when using any directory functions does not reflect what's actually
on disk. I decided long ago that it is a Bad Thing, and generally
recommend against using it. Anyone relying on 'make' type utilities
and have tried it, will no doubt know about (or SHOULD know about!)
its problems.

Besides, FASTOPEN offers absolutely no performance benefits over using
any good extended memory cache anyway (eg. hyperdisk or ncache).


david



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From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: uucico debugs, alias files, news, mod groups, cancelling poss
Keywords: %% waffle bbs newsgroups mail usenet wow cancel alias moderae
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 16:43:47 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

> UUCICO: Still no solution and even more people have mailed me re the -x6
> thing. That makes about 5 or 6 of us. Can anyone figure why its
> required?

  If you are using a Fossil driver, the transmit buffer MUST be large
enough to hold a full packet set. This is (packet_size + 7) *
number_of_windows. For a standard 64x7 connection, this is 497 bytes.
Therefore, make sure your transmit buffer is at least 512 bytes.

  UUCICO is overflowing the fossil driver buffer. The size of your modem
buffer has no effect, unless it can accept data faster than your computer
can fill the fossil buffer.

  This bug becomes much more prevalent if you use the larger packet sizes.

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From: nguyen@spectrx.saigon.com (nguyen duong)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FOSSIL driver & Windows 3.1
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:08:41 GMT
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

tonyd@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us (Tony DeBari) writes:
> >Honestly, when I ran using Windows, I think I ran BNU with the RUN.BAT
> >and had Windows run RUN.BAT to start waffle.
> 
> My setup here is similar.  My RUN.BAT loads X00 when it starts and unloads 
> it when it ends.  This way, the FOSSIL is always available to Waffle
> whether I run it from DOS (for speed) or Windows (for multitasking), and
> it's always removed from memory when I change from one environment to the
> other.
> 
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> 
> "First things first ... but not necessarily in that order" - The Doctor

Sound is good! How do you remove it at thend.
THanks.

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From: psyline@psyline.nl (Theo Bogels)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Option
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 01:05:23 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: PsyLine * Nijmegen * The Netherlands.

Who knows where I can FREQ the switch program OPTION?
**Theo

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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: complaints
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:18:10 GMT
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker) writes:

-> In reference to Message-ID: <i00ZTB3w165w@lablues.UUCP>
-> 
-> I agree. 

Now all we need to do is get Tom to make <S>earch look at the
Message-ID as well now.

Personally I hate quoting 30 lines for a one-line reply, but at least
give us clue, with maybe 1-5 lines of quotes, of what the hell you
are agreeing with.


   \|/  Eoin   eoin@xocolatl.com   *
    *  ------  GEnie: J.SNYDER18  \|/

One liner "I agree" or "ROFL" type replies are another pet peeve, but
that one under control and just hit <N>.  As soon as Tom gives us
kill files, it will be just hit <K>.


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