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From: bky@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.a.stafford)
Subject: Brian Setzers sound on Stray Cat Strut
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:13:28 GMT

   I have been trying to learn Stray Cat Strut and I have become extremely
frustrated because no amount of tweaking will get my Strat to sound like
whatever Brian Setzer is playing on Stray Cat Strut.
   Does anyone know what he plays on this song?
   Does he use any effects?
   Is it possible to get a Strat to produce this 'Setzer' sound?
Thanks in advance.
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From: patrick.eckman%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Patrick Eckman) 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Low Humidity & Guitar
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: patrick.eckman%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Patrick Eckman) 

TO: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi

 PK. Patrick Eckman (patrick.eckman%acc1bbs@ssr.com) wrote:
 PK. : I started hanging my Martin D-28 on the wall in the bedroom a few months
 PK. : back, and it's been handy to have it at the ready. Now that winter has
 PK. : set in, however, the humidity in our apartment has really fallen. Should
 PK. : I put it back in the hard shell case? I've seen "humidity pads" that can
 PK. : be placed in the body of the guitar. Anyone try these?
 PK. :
 PK. 	That can happen kinda easily here in Finland too. Severe changes
 PK. 	of humidity can affect your guitar. I use Dampit humidifier and
 PK. 	keep my custom shop Martin in its hardshell case.

 Others had similar advice. One suggestion (via Email) was to take a
 plastic bar soap case, and put a damp sponge in it and put that in the
 case with the guitar. I guess there's room under the head, or I could
 take the cover off that little box that's under the neck. I guess I'll
 put it in the case at a minimum. Thanks for the advice.

 PK.    You mean no scalloped bracing, right ? Practically all Martins ever
 PK. 	made have x-bracing pattern, HD-28 etc. have SCALLOPED x-bracing.

 Yes, as numerous others have pointed out, I meant SCALLOPED x-bracing.
 Sheesh, one slip of the wrist and bah-boom!  :}

 PK.    How do you like your D-28 ? Has it opened with age ?

 As a matter of fact it has! For 10 years I played it maybe once a
 month. In the last two years I've been taking lessons and playing it
 almost every day. It's sounding better and better. Since I began
 hanging it on the wall it's begun to sound brighter still. I guess that
 will end soon.

 Thanks again for the advice.
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From: dbc@welkin.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Considine)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Airdyne Guitar?
Summary: Ever heard of it?
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:14:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Code 916, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

Sorry to turn this group into alt.is.this.a.good.guitar, but that is the
question I have about an Airdyne Guitar that I have an opportunity to
buy.  I don't play guitar, which is why I am appealing to the net.
The cost for this used guitar and amp, both with the same brand
name, is less than 100 bucks, so it would be hard to believe that
this thing is "good" in anything but the most liberal definition.  What
I really want to know is if this is one of those "don't buy if it's being
given away" beasties?


Thanks -
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: bill@verdix.com (William Spencer)
Subject: Re: Tube amp transformers
Organization: Verdix Corp
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:12:54 GMT

gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <Bz0GpF.Fyn@hfglobe.intel.com> dcovell@hfglobe.intel.com (David Covell) writes:
>>
>>I recently bought an old tube hi-fi amp that I'd like to cannabilize for
>>parts with which to build a project guitar amp. Several people have told
>>me that hi-fi output transformers aren't suitable for instrument amps.
>>I'd like more data on this; if the problem is that hi-fi output transformers
>>can't handle the saturation that guitar amps put out, can I avoid this by
>>using output tubes of lower power?

They still will probably be heftier than the ones used in guitar amps. Still,
reducing power further may be desirable. Generally, this will increase the
output impedance a bit but the primary and secondary characteristics will still
be in the range they work O.K. 

>> The amp uses a pair of 6L6's in each
>>channel. Is there some reason I couldn't use EL84's or 6V6's, which would
>>cut the power by at least 40%? This would avoid output wattage in excess of
>>the transformer's rating, which is the only potential problem I can see with
>>using these transformers. Am I missing something obvious here?

6L6(-GC)s can handle more voltage than these other tubes.

>Yes, you are. What people are telling you is that hi-fi amps aren't
>sleazy enough to be guitar amps. The transformers are of higher quality
>and don't saturate (IE distort) the signal badly enough to qualify for
>guitar amplifiers.

They're wrong. In my experience, the better transformers will sound better.

> All is not lost, however, since you can cut corners
>elsewhere, like in the power supply, and still get plenty of distortion.

I wouldn't "cut corners" anywhere. Might want to reduce (or even eliminate)
negative feedback though.

One other possible problem: if the splitter/driver scheme is different than
a guitar amp, it might not work as well in distortion. The worst circuits 
are more likely found on some cheesy old guitar amps though (like some Ampegs
used the "auto-bias" circuit rather than fixed bias with a negative supply).

  ***
There was a mention of problems with measuring the high voltages in tube amps.
Be sure your instruments can handle it and there are no exposed metal points 
on your probes. Be extra careful with the plate signal. With signal applied,
the plate can peak out at almost *2 times* the supply voltage on the "off"
side of the cycle. Also, if you need to measure the grid voltage, do it
on the source side of the grid resistor or add a resistor to the end of the
probe. Capacitance, etc. straight to the grid can cause
instability/oscillation.

Bill s
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rousseaf@saguenay.IRO.UMontreal.CA (Francois Rousseau)
Subject: SleepWalker Movie slide song ?
Organization: Universite de Montreal -- Laboratoire Incognito
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:16:54 GMT

I've heard in a movie named SleepWalker, near the end, a
great pedal steel (I think) song. It was very slow and passionate. The
scene where it is heard actually shows one of the main actor putting
a 45' rpm on an old stereo (before eating a young lady...).

I've heard this ballad before, it's an oldie, may be a classic. It's
instrumental. What is the title ?
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: gothick@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Gothick)
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings .... any ideas???
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:33:49 GMT

jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson) writes:

>In Orval's example of open-E tuning he gives E-H-E-G#-B-E.
>                                               ^

>  Where is the H on *my* guitar? Mabey I'm not looking hadr enough. :-).

Not every country uses the "standard" notation ABCDEFG, y'know....

>Flustered in Fargo,

>jh

Matt
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (furious axe demon)
Subject: Alternate tunings, what's the point?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:32:41 GMT


Forgive my ignorance, but other than playing slide guitar, is there
any reason other than basic laziness why one might want to use an
alternate tuning other than the standard EADGBe?

I would imagine that creative tunings can be used to greatly faciliate
fingering some otherwise hard but interesting chords, like ninths, but
that can't be all there is to it, is there?


	Sincerely,
	Joe G
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Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 15:29:43 PST
From: <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: 1961 Fender Mustang valuation REQ

The Fender Mustang was introduced the same year as the Ford Mustang, 1964.
It was only available in red, white or blue.  In 1969 it could be had in red,
burgundy or orange with white racing stripes (the Competition Mustang).  By
1982 it was discontinued.

The only rare, collectable Mustangs (other than the Fords) are the short scale
models (22 1/2").

Okay netters, what's the going price?

Brian
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: uh311ae@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Henrik Klagges)
Subject: aging strings - is there a way to recycle
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:17:19 GMT

Q: Strings age and need to be replaced. Ist there a way to squeeze more life
   out of them ? It seems such a waste to throw them away.

Q: Do thinner strings age quicker than thicker ones ? It would be plausible
   given the higher tension.

Cheers, Henrik
From: bud@megatek.com (Wayne Francis)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: anyone seen a STRAT ELITE for sale?
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:00:20 GMT
Reply-To: bud@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1992Dec9.225914.1@wharton.upenn.edu> hsu22@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
>After recently failing to jump on one quick enough, I am now eagerly
>seeking a good condition Fender Strat Elite.  I would like to know, even
>if you don't own one, if you happen to be in a store and see one.  They
>are easily recognizable--the pickups are squared off on the ends, they have
>three push-buttons instead of the typical five way switch, and have a 
>funky looking locking bridge.  Please e-mail to:
>
>Calvin Hsu
>Hsu22@wilma.wharton.upenn.edu

Last time I was there I saw one at Dustys Guitar Kingdom in Oceanside
California.  The area code is 619.  Directory assistance should be
able to help you with that much info.  If not E-mail me and I'll get 
back to you.


Bud
 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott.New)
Subject: Re: "Jazzy" blues??
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 19:59:28 GMT

In article <mike.19@vm1.mcgill.ca> mike@vm1.mcgill.ca (Mike Woo) writes:
>In article <BzB7DK.AMz@hfglobe.intel.com> dcovell@hfglobe.intel.com (David Covell) writes:
>
>>As a guitarist, I'm trying to increase my exposure to blues, both classic
>>and modern. My problem is that I'm very fussy about guitar tone, and the

>very dynamic tone.  His latest album "Robben Ford and The Blue Line" is
>even better (IMHO).  Pick up either album - I can almost guarantee you
>won't be disappointed.

Also check out Robben Ford with his brothers on __The_Charles_Ford_Band__
recently reissued on Arhoolie CD.  Robben was smokin' at age 18.  Also,
on the Blue_Rockit' label, there are several things, including __Mark_Ford_
with_the_Robben_Ford_Band__.  If you're into Robben, check this stuff out.

Also, check out Duke Robillard's two swing records (Swing and After Hours
Swing Session, both on Rounder).  KILLER swing blues.

Check out Rod Piazza and the Mighty Flyers.  Lots of great guitar on that one.
This has harmonica and piano... but the guitar is great stuff.

Now, if you want to go back to the roots... check out Tiny Grimes
Big Time Guitar or Callin' The Blues.  (Stay away from the Cats-in-the-fiddle
stuff and from Tiny Grimes and the Rockin Highlanders... that is not the best
Tiny Grimes stuff.)  One of the best T. Grimes things is __Some_Groovy_Fours__.

As for T-Bone, get that 2 CD box set that has been reissued.  That is some of the
classic stuff.

Hope this helps!
Elliott
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Martin and Company guitars
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:42:03 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <john.t.rock.3-181292010338@lafmac04.lafortune.lab.nd.edu> john.t.rock.3@nd.edu (ROCK) writes:
>Can anyone post or email a response to the following questions:
>
>1) What are Martin and Company guitars so great (so damn expensive)?  I
>have a cheap one guitar and it works for me just fine.
> email to john.t.rock.3@nd.edu  
>Thanks a lot to anyone who has the knowledge to answer my questions.

 Answer (in analogy form):

 Why are Porsche and Ferrari sports cars so great (so damn expensive)? I
 drove a Nissan 240SX and it worked for me just fine.


-- 
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	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: isc10144@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHAN NICODEMUS)
Subject: Re: aging strings - is there a way to recycle
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 10:40:29 GMT

Can this method of boiling be used on nylon strings as well?

Please E-Mail me as I rarely refer to this newsgroup.


Nico.
From: shaffer-wendy@yale.edu (Wendy Shaffer)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings, what's the point?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 19:34:24 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <1992Dec17.223241.14784@athena.mit.edu> juggle@athena.mit.edu (furious axe demon) writes:
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but other than playing slide guitar, is there
>any reason other than basic laziness why one might want to use an
>alternate tuning other than the standard EADGBe?
>
>I would imagine that creative tunings can be used to greatly faciliate
>fingering some otherwise hard but interesting chords, like ninths, but
>that can't be all there is to it, is there?
>
There are a couple of reasons why you might want to use an alternate tuning.  
One is that it does make fingering for certain pieces a lot easier (you may or
may not call it laziness).  There are also a few effects that you can get using
altered tunings that you can't get in standard tuning.  One fairly popular trick
is to lower the low E string down to a D or sometimes even as far as a B.  This
gives you a nice low growling sound that's great for heavy music.  Another thing
you can do is tune two strings in unison and get a sort of twelve string like or
"organic chorusing" effect.  Then you can do just plain weird things like 
purposly tuning two strings to _almost_ unison and then cranking the distortion
way up so that the frequencies interfere and make a funny wobbling sound.  Some 
people find it useful to tune so that they can play a lot of open strings that 
will ring out for longer than fretted strings.  
If you're really curious about why and how people use alternate tunings, I'd 
check out the December issue of Guitar Player that someone mentioned earlier.  
(It has Keith Richards on the cover, and bright orange lettering).

 
>	Sincerely,
>	Joe G

Wendy Shaffer
shaffer@minerva.cis.yale.edu
From: gw214790@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Note Frequencies needed
Keywords: frequency, note, hertz
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:42:07 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <102410@netnews.upenn.edu> lginzb@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Lionel Ginzburg) writes:
>In article <BzDu2M.Ao4@ecf.toronto.edu> ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (RICE George Matthew) writes:
>>Hi all,
>>I was wondering if anybody knew offhand what
>>frequencies each of the strings vibrate at 
>Note that if a note is an octave higher, frequency is doubled.  (And
>All notes sounded on a guitar (And indeed, any non-synthesized
>instrument) will not be pure harmonically. (i.e. a sine wave)  All will
>have overtones and undertones.  There is a pattern and an equation to
                    ^^^^^^^^^^
Can you define what you mean by undertones?  The lowest frequency the string
can vibtate at is it's fundamental, where the center of the string experiences
the most displacement.

>this, but I don't remember it offhand.
>>Matthew
>Lionel Artom-Ginzburg
Galen Watts
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From: MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu (Taka Mizutani)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: single coil hum cancelling idea...opinions?
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:23:00 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar, rec.music.makers.guitar
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec16.052917.1@wharton.upenn.edu>, hsu22@wharton.upenn.edu
wrote:
: 
: Recently, I bought a Strat Elite and opened it up to take a look at the
: guts of the thing.  Lo and behold, there was a fourth pickup in it! 
: This one had no polepieces, and was just stuck there under the pickguard.
: I gathered from the low noise of the guitar that it was reverse wound,
: reverse polarity, and always connected to the output--in this way, it
helps
: reduce hum quite a bit.  
: 
: Now, I also own an American Standard, with a DiMarzio HS2 in the bridge.
: When I stuck the HS2 in, I lost hum-cancelling in one of my fave
positions,
: the bridge/mid.  But after I saw the guts of the Elite, I got to thinking

: that maybe I could do the same for the Standard.  
: 
: If anyone has tried this, or has theoretical knowledge on the success
: likelihood of this venture, TELL ME.  QUICK.  BEFORE  I decide to take 
: the original bridge pickup, stick it in the middle position, knock the 
: pole pieces out of the middle position pickup, wire it directly to 
: the volume knob, and screw the pickup under the pickguard into the body.
: If this won't work, I NEED TO KNOW.  I got this cocka mamy idea just from
: conjecture at the electronics of the Elite--I think I'm right, but I
would
: like a second, third, fourth, hundredth opinion.  Thanks all.  If I go
through
: with it, I'll post the results (gotta love that universal route in the 
: Standard...)

Hi,
I also have an American Standard, with Seymour Duncan Classic Stack pickups
in both the bridge and the neck positions. When I installed these pickups,
I also lost the "in between" positions, neck/middle and bridge/middle. I'm
thinking of putting in a coil splitter, so I can use one coil of the double
coil, essentially making it a single coil, and getting back the
hum-cancelling sound of the original pickups. To do this, you either need a
push-pull switch/ volume pot combination or a mini-toggle switch. With the
switch, you can either select humbucking or single-coil for the pickup.

 For more details, take a look at either an HRR Strat (for the push-pull
pot setup) or a Strat Ultra (for the mini-toggle setup). I don't think you
need to do what Fender did with the Strat Elite. I would think that such a
setup would still exist if it proved to work well. As I recall, strat
Elites were produced in the early '80s, back when Fender was producing
mediocre instruments. Also, a coil-splitter would only cost $10-$20 if you
install it yourself and only an hour or less of your time, whereas what the
setup in the Strat Elite sounds like it is much more elaborate- more time,
more money, more hassle.

Just my $0.02
Please let me know what you end up doing.

Taka Mizutani
MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Date this Gibson
Organization: Ripoff Industries
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:16:47 GMT

Michael Naish (naish@gfx.engga.uwo.ca) wrote:
: 	My father has a Gibson ES330-TD hollow body electric guitar
: that he believes was manufactured in 1958.  Can anyone tell me for
: sure?  Any other information that anyone might have would be greatly
: appreciated.
	
	Any other information that might help the dating would be
	greatly appreciated... :)

	Pasi
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From: naish@gfx.engga.uwo.ca (Michael Naish)
Subject: Re: Date this Gibson
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:40:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.234039.267@ousrvr.oulu.fi> pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen) writes:
>Michael Naish (naish@gfx.engga.uwo.ca) wrote:
>
>: 	Sorry, I included the serial number, 19921 in the summary but
>: I neglected to place it the body of the posting.
>
>        Where is the serial located ? See, in that era there was two numbers
>        in Gibsons. Serial#, visible thru upper f-hole, printer on a white
>        oval label, and so-called factory number, ink stamped in the back of
>        the guitar, visible thru lower f-hole.
>        Does the serial have any kind of prefix letter?

	Neither, the serial number, at least what I believe is the
serial number, is stamped at the top of the back side of the
headstock - without any prefix.  There is no oval label visible
through either f-hole and ES330-TD is ink stamped on the back of
the guitar, visible through the lower f-hole.  Through the upper
f-hole there are three white dots in close proximity visible that
at one time may have held the oval label, but do so no longer.
	Any ideas?
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mcdowell@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (James M McDowell)
Subject: Re: Brian Setzer Sound
Keywords: Gretsch 6120
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:48:40 GMT

The "fat Gretsch" that has been referred to is a Gretsch 6120.
It is the original Chet Atkins model (althogh it may have been
in production before it was the C. A. model). Duane Eddy's Gretsch
6120 is a 1956 model with D'Armond pickups. Brian Setzer's is a
later model with the filtron pickups. I've had the privilege of
playing Duane Eddy's 6120 a few times and it is indeed a great guitar.

Keep twangin',

Jim
From: dcd30@yellowjacketcd.amdahl.com (Dan C. Devou)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Date This Gibson ES125
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:28:13 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I have a Gibson ES125 That was purchased used in 1959.  The factory
serial number found stamped in the lower 'F' hole is 2287_9.  Can anyone
out there help me find out the date of manufacture?  Thanks in advance

Dan Devou
From: tasavard@phy.duke.edu (Tom Savard)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Recommendations for a guitar for beginners?
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:51:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University Physics Dept.; Durham, N.C.

I am currently looking for an acoustic guitar that would suit a
beginner with previous musical training. I don't know how different
the various guitars sound, or what separates a guitar for beginners
versus one for the advanced other than the cost.

Please give me some insight and model/brand recommendations.  Since
I'm not a regular reader of this group, please respond via email.

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