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From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Club 33 -- Disneyland's Best Kept Secret
Keywords: club33
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:11:00 GMT
Organization: Will pay money for food.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <dbarber.721354256@crash.cts.com>, 
  dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber) writes...

>Club 33 in New Orleans is perhaps Disneyland's best kept secret.
>Even most employees (I'm told) never get in.

It isn't really a "secret".  Everybody may not be able to get in, but plenty of
people are aware of its existence.  

>My question is:  Has anybody here on the net been in, and what's
>it like?

Read the FAQ.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:31:06 GMT

In article <BxAyv2.7HD@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> summerem@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Erick M. Summers) writes:
>	Any comments?
Yup.  Here we go again!  :-)

August Paul Yang throws his hands up in frustration.
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Overlap: A Legacy in Song box set
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:58:51 GMT
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Andrew Krieg, Man or Android? (krieg@titan.med.ge.com) wrote:
>     
>    "Perfect Isn't Easy" - Oliver and Company, 1988
> 	I was surprised this song was included, and not "Why Should I Worry".
> 	They mention "Once Upon A Time in New York City" by Ashman and Menken,
> 	as if it was going to be included.
>     (Oliver and Company Soundtrack)
>     
> =     Andrew Krieg	| 						=

Actually, the lyrics for "Once Upon A Time in New York City" were my Ashman,
but Menken did not write the music.  I can't remember who did.

	--Ala"ddi"n
From: by24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Benjamin S. Yu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:28:06 GMT
	<1992Nov3.233100.553@u.washington.edu>
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Can someone send me the original Be Our Guest parady?  Thanks

Ben Savageley
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: rdorocke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (rob lawrence dorocke)
Subject: Disney MGM expansion question
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:41:17 GMT

what is to be included in the expansion of the Disney MGM park?
What is the size, and where is the expansion at (where in the park)?

Just curious

Rob
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "Apple Lady" Lockner)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:22:13 GMT


I wasn't going to post this inconsistency because I thought it was so
glaringly obvious, but people have told me they haven't even noticed it,
so maybe it's just ME.  Post and tell me if you've overlooked it.

The scene where Belle and the Beast are eating breakfast- oatmeal, I
think, and the Beast is still eating like an animal until Chip and
Mrs. Potts nudge the silverware towards him is very inconsistent.
In the first shot, Beast's face is covered with oatmeal and messy;
it cuts to Chip and Potts, and back to Beast, and his face is clean.
It cuts to Belle and then back to the Beast, and his face is dirty
again.  On the 3rd cut, his face is messy AGAIN!!! I don't know- I noticed
it right off, but none of this other stuff people have been posting.
Must be JUST ME.

-Denise
*********
"If you can't say something nice..don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

"I'm in the mood to help you, dude!
You ain't NEVER had a friend like me!" -the Genie
From: langer@aero.org (John V. Langer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Is Beauty and the Beast suitable for 4 year old?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 10:17:01 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

>In article <1992Oct26.120755.8188@cs.ruu.nl> hansb@cs.ruu.nl (Hans Bodlaender) writes:
>>(For instance, I wouldn't take her to The Great Mouse Detective, but she
>>enjoyed the little Mermaid, the Rescuers I & II, Peter Pan and some others a
>>lot.)

Perhaps we should take a poll of whose kids were scared by what.  I think
we'd need an awfully large sample to work out all the demographics, though.
I suggest you catch a late show by yourself and then make a judgement.  My 3
year-old boy loved Mouse Detective (3 times) in the theatre, but found a video 
of Rescuers II scary (too much footage of the menacing bad guy).   B&tB was okay
as long as I was next to him for the early scary parts when Beast was growling
(but the hype led him to anticipate this) while Pinochio required several 
lengthy trips to the bathroom -- especially during the Strobolli sequence.
Monstro was not scary in Pinochio, though.  Again, perhaps due to anticipation.

Bottom line for little Peter -- if he *doesn't* get B&tB for his birthday
next week, his life will be utterly without purpose.  

                          -- John
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ins534z@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:52:02 GMT

andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko) writes:

>1)  The Bimbettes swap hair styles from scene to scene and (sometimes)
>    from second to second.  Best of all, by the end of "Gaston" they're
>    suddenly all wearing the _same_ hairdo!

The French evidently change their hairstyles quite regularly.  The
reason why you don't see the village hairdresser very much is that
he ALWAYS HAS AN APPOINTMENT.

>3)  In the opening scene, the Beast slashes his portrait along one diagonal.
>    When Belle first sees the picture, it's been slashed along the _other_
>    diagonal.

Maybe we were looking at it through the Magic Mirror?  :)

>5)  Belle discovers the Rose.  Camera circles around the table, dramatically.
>    Belle rotates in frame, table rotates, Rose rotates, but the fallen rose
>    petals stubbornly remain motionless on the tabletop.

Perhaps the bell jar is really a high-tech enchanted turntable  . . .

>6)  Belle passes broken mirror in hallway of West Wing.  Look in the upper-
>    leftmost shard of mirror...a stagehand can be plainly seen, lighting a
>    cigarette.

>    Just kidding.

Oh no!  And Disney tried to tell us that all this was animation!  We wuz robbed!

Tim Pickett
Defender of Faults in Disney Films.
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Trivia, Trivia, and more Trivia
Keywords: trivia
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:31:40 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Pooh Corner Country Club -- A Planned Community

e49115611@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (EHRMAN, JEFFREY ALAN) writes:

>4) What was The Black Cauldron adapted from?

A trilogy of Young Adult fantasy by Lloyd Alexander, and I'll be damned if I
can remmber the names offhand (looking them up, of course, being Wrong).

>6) Name the names of the two shops and two restaurants in Bear Country
>   (Not Critter Country).

Restaurants: Hungry Bear Cafe (at one point sponsored by Wonder Bread),
and Mile Long Bar. Shops: Wilderness Outpost is one, and the other I've gone
blank on. (gads. I'm going senile).

-- 
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  chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms

    I wanna drive the zamboni! I wanna drive the zamboni, yes I do.
From: guthrie@nb.rockwell.com (Karen Guthrie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:52:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: nb.1992Nov9.155201.8900
Organization: Rockwell International


One more little problem I noticed was that after the fight with the Wolves
the beast is laying on the ground aparently unconscions and in the next 
scene Belle is leading Phillipe with the Beast draped over Phillipe.  Did
she lift the beast?  WOW!!!  She must be really strong.  Has anyone tried
to move an unconscious person?  She also keeps him from falling off the roof
later by grabbing his cape.  Another feat of strength although admitedly
a more believeable one.

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Please send Darkwing Duck-isms
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:35:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <27329@dog.ee.lbl.gov> abmbca@icarus.lbl.gov (Andy Megowan) writes:
>Hey, could someone email me the latest list of Darkwing Duck
>quotes?
One of my favorites was:

"I am the terror that flaps in the night....
  ... I am the batteries not included!"


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From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "Apple Lady" Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin song question (was Re: Question for Denise)
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:31:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov12.003128.15739
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Nov11.232910.2315@sco.com> evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt) writes:
>
>Don't blame me, I voted for mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "Apple Lady" Lockner).
>>"Life is your restaurant,
>>And I'M YOUR MAITRE' D!!
>>Tell me what it is you want,
>>You ain't NEVER had a friend like me!!"  -Genie
>
>What I'm wondering is, were these lyrics written by Ashman?  And does
>anyone else hear echoes of "FEED ME!" in there?  :)
>
>-- 
  I LOVED the phrase above your post!!!  Nice to know not only do people      ,
   read my posts, they've VOTING for me, too!!!  (I considered voting the     
  Mickey Mouse/Roger Rabbit ticket, but I voted responsibly!!!).  Anyway,     r,
   when I first heard the "Aladdin" soundtrack in August, that was the first  
 comment out of my mouth...that "Friend Like Me" sounded JUST LIKE the "Feed
  Me" song (I wasn't aware that Ashman/Menken had done the music for "Little
 Shop", please excuse my ignorance).  I'm not sure if Ashman did the lyrics
for "Friend LIke Me," but I wouldn't be surprised.

-Denise (poster, candidate, Disney Cast Member, half angel/half tart)
*********
"If you can't say something nice..don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

"I'm in the mood to help you, dude!
You ain't NEVER had a friend like me!!" -Genie

(P.S. "Half angel/half tart" is a line from "Dyslexic Heart". Don't let's
       get any whacked ideas here.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: CRS San Diego UUCP Gateway
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:43:45 GMT

The 10-years old thing is probably a hold-over from the first draft of
Woolverton's script, where instead of the painted-glass sequence with
voice-over, you actually see the young prince being transformed.  Kirk
Wise said that they couldn't get him to look like anything but Eddie
Munster, and the whole idea was dropped in favor of the opening which
we now see.  (thankfully.)

My favorite inconsistences are in other movies (I'm blind to all
the faults in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST :-): in LITTLE MERMAID, the
glaring one for me is that when Ariel finishes singing "Part of
Your World", she sinks down into a pool of light on the ocean
floor.  Really strong sunshine.  Then about fifteen seconds
later, she surfaces, and it's night-time with fireworks!
In RESCUERS DOWN UNDER, it's McLeach's disappearing/re-appearing
hat feather after he pulls Cody out of the pit.

--Kathy Li, Madwoman with a VCR.
-- 
------------------------|  She hated chocolate liquers. She preferred
kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com |  her vices separated.
------------------------|             ---NAKED ONCE MORE, Elizabeth Peters
From: dfarley@wpi.WPI.EDU (Donald L Farley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:50:54 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

There's a correction I have to make to my last post here - I 
pressed the space bar a few times to get through the "Be Our 
Guest" parody/pornography post and not the n key.  By habit, I 
generally read through USENET newsgroups with spacebars rather 
than y's and n's.  It was my mistake, explaining why I did see a 
few lines of it despite the preceding warning.  I did see and 
appreciate the warning.  However, such a warning as "may be 
offensive" is not enough when you must read more to find out if 
it is offensive or not.  But beyond this, even if the poster had 
put in large letters "PORNOGRAPHY BELOW", I would still be 
entitled to speak up against it.

The negative responses to my post invoking the 1st Amendment and 
freedom of speech were expected - they are typically used to 
defend pornography as a form of speech/expression.  However, 
freedom of speech as well as any freedom carries with it an 
awesome responsibility to use it wisely and to bear the 
consequences of its use.  Freedom is the power to do what you 
OUGHT, not the power to do what you want.  I have seen much 
evidence that pornography is harmful, destructive, and deceiving.  
It is an abuse of freedom of speech and it OUGHT not to be 
propagated.  Pornography is wrong - period.  And here I must get 
"religious" if I am to tell you the reason for this statement.  
It's wrong not because I say it's wrong, it's wrong because God 
says so.  He makes this very clear in His Word which is never 
"out of touch with the times" but is everlasting and just as much 
true now as it was thousands of years ago.  This knowledge that 
pornography is wrong didn't come from me, it comes from Him and I 
believe His truth. 

Now, because of this truth, I am not only allowed to speak up
against pornography, I am obligated to do so!  You can read the
3rd chapter of the prophet Ezekiel, especially verses 16-21, to
see why.  But there is even a more compelling reason why I
posted my last post (and this one) - it is because of a love and
concern for you fellow netters, whether I ever meet you in
person, whether you agree with me or not, that you at least hear
about this truth.  Now that I've used my power to say what I
ought, I will gladly bear the consequences.  Good day to you all!
-- 
Donald L. Farley II             |  "... it is a very great poverty
College Computer Center, WPI    |   to decide that a child must die
100 Institute Road              |   that you may live as you wish."
Worcester, MA  01609-2280       |   --- Mother Teresa of Calcutta
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mpiet@is.morgan.com (Mark Pietrasanta)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:41:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.234036.10530@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
|> In article <BxAyv2.7HD@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> summerem@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Erick M. Summers) writes:
|> >	I'm not sure of the exact wording, but at the beginning of BatB in 
|> >the intro dialogue, the narrator says that the Prince will remain a beast 
|> >unless he learns to love by his 21st year.  They also show a painting of the
|> >prince (the one the beast claws).  
|> >	Then in "Be Our Guest" Lumiere states something like "ten years
|> >we've been been rusting."  That means the prince was 11 when he was changed
|> >into the beast and the painting is an exact portrait of the way the prince
|> >looks when he is changed back from a beast and not the way he would have
|> >looked at age eleven.
|> >	Any comments?
|> >
|> 	The best explanation I've heard is that the beast did not
|> age during the ten years of the spell. The best proof of that is
|> Chip, who can not be more than 10 after he is restored to a
|> child.
|> 	-- Ethan
|> 

Then what would be defined as his 21st birthday?  The premise was
that he was to remain a beast, and if he didn't get someone to love
him by the time he turned 21, he would stay a beast forever.  So there
must have been some way of determining this, right?

-- 
Mark Pietrasanta - mpiet@is.morgan.com

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: chung@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Vicente Chung)
Subject: Precursor stories to BatB? 
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:25:07 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

To all the BatB fans:

There is a story in the Bible, in the book of Daniel chapter 4, about a king that
turned into a beast.  He was turned into a beast by God because of this pride and 
he had hairs like feather and claws like eagles.  It was until he recognized that 
God was the source of this glory that he turned back into man after seven years.

I thought that this was interesting and this and other stories may inspired 
Beauty and the Beast.  I certainly don't know where the original
Beauty and the Beast story came from.


VE Chung
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: ALLADIN TO BE RELEASED EARLY!?
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:56:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <9NOV199220541801@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> e49115611@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (EHRMAN, JEFFREY ALAN) writes:
>I was just watching T.V. and a Little Mermaid/Beauty&Beast/Alladin preview
>came on announcing that Alladin was coming Saturday November 14! Was I
>dreaming or is it really true?
>

I live in San Diego, California (you're in Arizona, right?) and I
just saw the commercial last night.  I thought I'd heard wrong.  But I
remember that Beauty and the Beast was released early at selected
theaters (after the very first premiers).  Guess where I'm running
to this Saturday!


- Robert Cook
From: abmbca@icarus.lbl.gov (Andy Megowan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Please send Darkwing Duck-isms
Followup-To: rec.arts.disney
Date: 9 Nov 1992 19:03:46 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.154

Hey, could someone email me the latest list of Darkwing Duck
quotes?  There's suddenly an interest in them here at work, and
I know someone out there has a list they could email
to:

abmbca@dante.lbl.gov

Thanks in advance,
--Andy Megowan
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Aladdin and Prince Eric
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:22:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.161335.11505@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> raf5s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Rob Flax) writes:
>ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu  writes:
>> Isn't Aladdin's face modelled after Tom Cruise in an effort to appeal
>> to the younger generation...with that in mind, he does resemble him a
>> bit, especially in the nose.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sean Squier
>> (Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
>  
>> ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
>
>When I was at MGM Studios this past March, I went on the Animation tour
>and saw some of the artwork for Aladdin still in progress.  Clipped
>to the desks of many of the animators were photos of Keannu Reaves of
>"Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures" and "Point Break" fame.  I think
>his look may have been the inspiration for Aladdin, much like the
>animators referred to photos of buffalo, lions, etc. to create the Beast.
>
>Rob Flax
>raf5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
>University of Virginia
>  

Or maybe they were just female animators with a crush...? :-)


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: yhsu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Yuta Hsu)
Subject: Aladdin Sneak Preview Nov.14
Summary: Aladdin Sneak Preivew showings Saturday Nov.14th
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:37:45 GMT


For anyone interested... there are theaters that are having a sneak prevoew of 
Disney's Aladdin on Saturday, Nov.14th. Check your local listings, or call 
around. Remember.... THIS SATURDAY NOVEMBER 14th. Official release date is 
Wednesday Nov. 25th, just in time for Turkey Day!

-Yuta
Hsu.14@osu.edu  OR  yhsu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  (WHEW!)
**no sig... no time**
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: 10 Nov 1992 05:19:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


As the whole "should it be in this group" debate has long since 
degenerated into "my morals are better than your morals" and such,
could we please discontinue it here?  If you want to argue about
morality, comparative theology, or the pros and cons of pornography,
you can always e-mail each other, but for those of us who read this
group for Disney info, it's gotten really old.  Thank you for your
time and attention, it's time to stop the sermons on either side.
Linda
-- 
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding"
					--Proverbs 3:5
"Aw, Mom, you act like I'm not even wearing a bungie cord!"--Calvin
"It's barbaric, but hey, it's home"--"Arabian Nights" from --Aladdin--
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Aladdin Sneak Preview--this weekend
Date: 11 Nov 1992 02:46:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


While watching Quantum Leap this evening, a commercial came on for
Aladdin, and it said that this weekend would be a special sneak preview.
The official opening of the movie will be Nov. 25, but if you're lucky,
maybe you can see it earlier.  This message is not for the dirty dog
rats that get to see it tomorrow in LA or NY.  I hate you all.   (BIG
grin for the humor impaired).  Gotta get me to that sneak preview this
weekend.  
Linda
P.S. Why doesn't the Cleveland Disney Store have the soundtrack yet? I've
been walking around humming "Whole New World" all week, and I'm desparate!
AAAUUUGGGHHH!
:-P
-- 
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding"
					--Proverbs 3:5
"Aw, Mom, you act like I'm not even wearing a bungie cord!"--Calvin
"It's barbaric, but hey, it's home"--"Arabian Nights" from --Aladdin--