From: gsmith@lauren.uucp (Gene W. Smith)
Subject: Re: The Mother of All Flame Wars, Part 2 of 4
Organization: IWR, University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 19:06:53 GMT

In article <12605@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
writes:

>Eating disorders are also a common nonsexual response to 
>childhood sexual abuse.[Bagley & King, 114, 117, Faller, 150,
>Everstine & Everstine, 18]  Significantly, soc.motss is a group
>where many members identify themselves as "bears" (overweight
>and hairy) as distinguished from "twinks" (those with more
>normal body shapes).

This is so completely stupid I should save it an quote it from time to
time.  FYI, a bear does not mean "overweight and hairy", though it is
possible for a bear to be heavy.  Anybody who actually knows anything
about the gay community knows it is not overrun by heavy people.

>Read this chart carefully.  More than half of the white male
>homosexuals had 250 or more lifetime homosexual partners, as did
>44% of the black male homosexuals.  Just like the rest of us?
>How many heterosexuals do you know that have 250 different
>sexual partners in one lifetime?  How many do you know with 1000
>or more?

How many had the opportunity, O Wise One?

>Both Bagley/King and Faller mention self-multilation as a response
>of childhood sexual abuse victims.[Bagley & King, 117, Faller, 152,
>306]  The obvious parallel to "piercings," in which homosexuals
>(though not exclusively homosexuals) have nipples (male and
>female), scrotums, and the labia pierced, should be obvious.

Right.  Now go and find an actual connection, or shut the hell up.

>    In addition a strong link was established between combined
>    sex and drug use and unsafe sex practices, even without IV
>    drug use. Though Kaposi's Sarcoma is a skin condition
>    commonly associated with AIDS, it is most probably caused by
>    use of nitrate inhalants, often used by gays during sex.
>    [EMTC p. 42]  One quarter of gay men and half of lesbian
>    women had been sexually abused as children.

This is what comes of quoting Arthur Hu:  an assertion that nitrate
inhalants cause KS.  I would suggest you check your sources, except you
have already admitted you have none.

>	[Arthur Hu, Arthur_T_Hu@cup.portal.com, <50357@cup.portal.com>]

A well-known expert in the field.


>    A fourth and related pattern to look for in evaluation is
>    unusual or bizarre sexual practices.  Sometimes these are
>    encounters in which the perpetrator is very regressed.
>    Other times they are patterns of sexual deviation such as
>    transvestism, sadistic or masochistic activities, copro-
>    philia and coprophagia, zoophilia, fetishism, or certain
>    kinds of homosexual encounters.[Faller, 212]

>Why, that's just a normal month in soc.motss!  Some of you may
>recall the postings there discussing what parts of the human anatomy
>they would like changed to an animal part, to make sex more 
>"interesting."[George Dalton Madison, Furr@cup.portal.com,
><56410@cup.portal.com>, Mark Manning, mark@trillian.jsc.nasa.gov,
><1992Mar27.203415.23453@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>]

>What are these deviant sexual behaviors called?  Masters, Johnson,
>& Kolodny define these as "paraphilias": 

Discussing what parts of the human anatomy you want changed is not a
paraphilia.  And have you read alt.sex lately (or ever?)

>"[V]irtually all the paraphilias have their origins in a person's 
>early sexual history."[Masters, Johnson, & Kolodny, 426]  This also 
>fits in with my hypothesis that homosexuality is a result of childhood
>sexual abuse -- and the connection of dominance, pain, suffering,
>and the various fetishs, to an adult dominating a child, causing 
>pain in connection with the sexual organs, or tying a child up,
>should be obvious.

To have a hypothesis you ought to have evidence, which you don't give.

-- 
     Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/IWR/Ruprecht-Karls University 
               gsmith@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de
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