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From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: Printer Accounting
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:32:56 GMT

In article <jonv.11.0@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu> jonv@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (Jon Vestal) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I am looking for a way to do printer accounting for our Novell 3.11 server.  
>We have a lab with Mac's, PC's and NeXT's all printing to a Apple 
>Laserwriter using ATPS.  Is there any software (PD/Shareware/Commercial) 
>that would allow us to debut a users account for pages printed?  Thanks.
>
Hi,

ATPS.NLM v3.11 (shipped with NW4MAC v3.011) provides this functionality (as long
as you are using PostScript printers).  Please install this product for the
desired functionality...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.dcom.lans
From: cbreen@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au (Colin Breen)
Subject: Re: Intel Netport II Problems
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:50:25 GMT

We have encountered simialr problems, although they occur somewhat less
frequently than you have described.  I recently seen a letter from
Intel regarding an upgrade to the software stored in the flash memory of
the netports,it says, among other things, "Netport no longer loses
connection with the file server at seemingly arbitary times while in
printserver mode"

The letter details Bulletin Board access for the US and Europe, and
indicates the update is available as of Nov 15th.  I will be contacting
Intel Australia to see if it will be available here.

---
Colin Breen
Microcomputer Systems Officer University of Tasmania at Launceston
C.Breen@compserv.utas.edu.au
From: duane@intermec.com (Duane Charron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Public Domain/Shareware E-Mail Package for Novell?
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:19:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: intermec.1997
Reply-To: duane@intermec.com ()
Distribution: world
Organization: Intermec Corporation, Everett, Wa.

Hi Net,
 Does anyone know of a Public Domain E-Mail system for Novell Lan's.  I really
don't want to spend $500-1000 for a E-Mail System.  It doesn't have to be fancy
just a basic package.  It doesn't even have to go outside of the Local Lan!.

				Thanks


				Duane
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: bard@seymour.ucs.ualberta.ca (Barry Ard)
Subject: Re: Downing the server
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:10:30 GMT

rfranken@mcs213i.cs.umr.edu (Richard Brett Frankenberger) writes:

** beginning deleted.

>My personaly opinion about downing the server is never do it (except when needed
>to install additional hardware, etc., of course), but there are definitely two
>sides to this issue, and neither side is probably "correct."
> 
>     - Brett

I recall a Novell person posted once saying that it is important to down a
server occasionally to reset buffers and  allow volumes to be checked.

==============================================================================
  Barry Ard					bard@seymour.ucs.ualberta.ca
  Microcomputer Analyst / LAN Administrator
  Faculty of Business
  University of Alberta
  Edmonton, AB Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,misc.forsale.computers
From: T104244@r3vm.dsd.trw.com
Subject: Novell 2.2 100 user NEW un-registered $1500 or reas. offer
Organization: TRW Electronic Systems Group
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:16:30 GMT

Hi,
I have a Netware 2.2 100 user package that's sitting here.  Everything's
new (except the outside box a bit tattered)..but disks are still sealed
and manuals shrinkwrapped...and its unregistered...I've decided to
go with 3.11 instead...if interested, let me know.
I would like $1500 for it...first one to offer $1500 gets it..otherwise
I'm open to reasonable offers.  New, this usually runs about $2000.
 
Ernie
T104244@r3vm.dsd.trw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Rob.Bernstein@f124.n7102.z5.fidonet.org (Rob Bernstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: 3.11 server crashes
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:16:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: catpe.3030.2B1127CC
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7102/124 - Address Unknown, CT

To: perch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

In a message of <20 Nov 1992 22:49>, Andy Perch (5:7104/2) writes:

 AP>
 AP>Our 3.11 server is crashing intermittantly (about once a week) 
 AP>with
 AP>the following message on the console:
 AP>
 AP>  Abend General Protection Processor Exception (error code 

Just a suggestion, try running a bindfix.  I had similar problems with a server which turned out to be caused by a broken printer queue object in the bindery.  Final way of fixing was to use one of the pd utilities (I think it was called delbind) to get rid of it; Pconsole caused immediate Abends!.

Hope this helps,

regards
Rob


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From: edm@harpo.dev.uga.edu (Ed Maioriello)
Subject: Weird Problem at Login...
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:35:14 GMT

Hi,

A department at our University is trying to set up a LAN and its
got a problem thats baffling me.  I can attach to the server (using
either old ipx or via ODI) and actually do a dir listing of the 
LOGIN dir.  But generally when I try to login it hangs the system.  The
console shows a connections - not logged in.  Occasionally I've been 
able to log in, but the errors were being flashed as if the default
login script was being misread.  Then the weird part - I ran the login
program off a floppy disk and it worked fine, but then later on we had 
subsequent problems reading the NFO databases in NFOLIO (Netware Help).

This is an isolated lan - the workstations are 486/25 boxes running DOS
5.0. The server is as follows:

486/50 ISA bus  AMI Bios.
16Mb RAM
DOS 5.0 on 10MB DOS partition.
Ultrastore Ultra 14F 16 bit SCSI controller
2 - 105Mb Quantum Prodrive 105's
Advance Lan Product NE2000 Compatible NIC (I'm starting to hate
*compatible* NICS).

The startup.ncf file loads the u14_31x.dsk (920626) driver which auto
loads aspitran.dsk (911111).  The autoexec.ncf is pretty bare bones with
only one logical board defined - using 802.3 frames with IPX bound to
it.  They are using the NE2000.lan driver rather than the one that comes
with the NIC.

Does anyone have any ideas?  I reckon I'm gonna start swapping out NICS
and SCSI controllers, probably gonna use SMCPLUS NICs and Adaptec 1540
controllers.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Ed Maioriello		       		            edm @ harpo.dev.uga.edu
University Computing & Networking Services   	    edm @ aisun1.ai.uga.edu
University of Georgia  ----------------------------------------------------
Athens, Ga. 30602      | First Rule of Troubleshooting: 
(706)-542-6462         |                     If it don't work - plug it in!
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Macs on Novell - software question
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:48:38 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <168A8CBE1.AWP00JTF@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU> AWP00JTF@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU writes:
>Just another quick Mac on Novell question:  With both Macs and DOS machines
>on a Novell network, must we install both Mac and DOS versions of, say,
>WordPerfect - and is that a problem?  Thanks - Judy
> 
> 
In general, yes, you must use seperate applications among the different clients
on the network.  For example, MS Word comes in at least two "flavours," one for
the Macintosh, and the other for DOS users.  This should not be any problem at 
all for you...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: slb@heidi.acc.Virginia.EDU (sandy)
Subject: nfs lpr gateway to 2.2 server?
Originator: slb@heidi.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:09:33 GMT



I am running Netware NFS (patched V1.2) on a 3.11 server.  
I have successfully configured the lpr gateway so that I 
can print from Unix to a printer attached to another server 
(running 3.11 ).  Now I would also like to be able to print 
from Unix to a printer attached to a server running 2.2.  
So far, the same setup I used for the 3.11 server has not worked.  
Am I doing something wrong?  Is this supposed to work?  
The NFS gateway server accepts the print job fine, but it 
doesn't seem to be associating its queue with the printer 
on the 2.2 server - the job just waits in the print queue 
on the NFS gateway server.  Is there something special I have 
to do in setting up the printer and server on the 2.2 machine?


sandy bryant
slb@virginia.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: abooth@ERA.COM (Alan Booth)
Subject: File sharing errors.
Organization: Engineering Research Associates, Vienna, VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:45:01 GMT

	I've recently upgraded to NetWare v3.11.  An application that we are
using is getting the error message, "Sharing violation error reading device
NETWORK" along with other file I/O errors.

	The application is run by multiple users and reads and writes the
same files.  I increased the LOCK DELAY to 5 and LOCK RETRIES to 15. This
seems to have helped some.  However, every once in awhile a sharing violation
error still pops up.

	Would increasing the LOCK parameters to much larger values such as
50 and 150 respectively, help or cause performance degradation.

	I've read over the manuals and changing these values seems to the only
modification that can correct this problem.  If anyone knows of something else
that I can try let me know.

Thanks

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From: Wayne.Wilson@med.umich.edu (Wayne.Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell vs. Lan Manager, which one do I choose?
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Date: 17 Nov 1992 18:59:12 GMT
Organization: Univesity of Michigan Medical Center
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wilson.itn.med.umich.edu

In article <75117@hydra.gatech.EDU>, bob@comlab.gatech.edu (Bob Baggerman)
wrote:

> MS TCP/IP that shipped with LanMan 2.1 included extensions which allowed
> a host name table to map NetBIOS names to be mapped to IP addresses...  This allows connections across a router...

> In the latest release of LanMan (I just got it yesterday) evidently there
> are some new TCP/IP services which are available to run on servers.  They
> provide a mechanism for servers to proxy for each other across an IP router.
> This frees the individual workstations from needing a NetBIOS name to IP
> address mapping table.  It also looks like it proxies for server announcement
> broadcasts. 
>  If I understand 
> correctly, I think Novell does something similar, eh?

  Maybe someone else knows better, but as far as I know, you attach a
Novell client to a server using a IPX tunnel inside of IP, thus it is a
point to point attach, with the client knowing the servers address. 
Because NETBIOS is emulated on top of IPX, full NETBIOS services should be
available.  I remember talk of a "native" mode Novell client, which means
putting NCP onto TCP/IP, but there is no product like that now.  I presume,
that if there is such a product, NETBIOS will once again be done in
emulation, but just how the NETBIOS broadcasts would be handled in a TCP/IP
world, I don't know.  All the more reason to migrate away from NETBIOS ASAP
anyway.

Wayne D. Wilson
Asst. Dir. 
Health Sciences Information & Networking
University of Michigan Medical Center
Wayne.Wilson@med.umich.edu
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Subject: Novell Gateway S/W
From: william.jones@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (William Jones) 
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: william.jones@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (William Jones) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The GrapeVine BBS *** N. Little Rock, AR *** (501) 753-8121

 Has anybody had any experience with Novell's gateway software
called " MultiProtocol Router". I've heard with it one could
place an application (e.g., ORACLE or similar data base) on
a PC that does not have Novell SEVER SOFTWARE ON IT.

 I have an IBM PS/2 Model 95 as File server (35 nodes/workstations),
and recently acquired a DELL 486DX 50MHZ (w/500 MB Hard Disk) for
use as data base server. Somebody said one could connect the database
server to the Novell Server (Model 95) with the use of Novell's
MultiProtocol Router software. If true this would save buying a
fifty user copy of Novell for the second PC (DELL 486).

 Anybody had any experience (Good/Bad) with Novell's gateway software
in similar setup? Any drawbacks?

.. Bill ..
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jaynes@med.umich.edu (William Jaynes)
Subject: Re: Mac NW-3.011 problem
Originator: jaynes@hendrix.itn.med.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan - Medical Center
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:33:27 GMT


In article <1992Nov20.145157.285@med.umich.edu>, jaynes@med.umich.edu (William Jaynes) writes:
|> I have Netware 3.11 with Mac NW-3.011 installed, as well as NFS1.2.  
|> The AFP.NLM is loaded with the nomultiple option.  
|> 
|> One of my volumes has all three name spaces installed, and is used as a shared
|> file space for Mac, Dos, and Unix systems.  One of the subdirector structures,
|> a rather large one of serveral megabytes, was originally created on a Unix
|> system.  When the shared file space became  available we copied (using tar)
|> the entire structure over to the shared Novell volume, and began to access 
|> files in all three name spaces. I think that this is the only subdirectory
|> structure on the volume that was created this way.  Most of the others were
|> created originally using Dos or Macs.
|> 
|> I now have a situation which seems to be unique to that subdirectory.  Some,
|> but not all, directories and files, when accessed through a Mac, cause the
|> following to happen:
|> 
|>  1 - The desktop disappears.  That is, all windows and icons vanish, but the
|>      screen doesn't go black.
|>  2 - A few seconds pass.
|>  3 - The desktop reappears, with all windows collapsed back into the mounted
|>      volume icon.
|> 
|> The access can be as simple as closing a folder (it never happens when openning
|> a folder) or opening a file with an application.  Permissions all appear
|> as they should be, or at least OK to me.
|> 
|> I tried to rebuild the desktop on that volume using a Sys 6 Mac, but it
|> hangs after a few minutes, and won't complete.
|> 
|> Anyone seen something like this or have suggestions.
|> -- 
|> William Jaynes, ITN, University of Michigan Medical Center, B1911 CFOB,
|> Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0704; (313) 747-2778 - William.Jaynes@med.umich.edu

OK.  I've found the problem.  A genuine bug in the Novell software.  If I create
a file, using Unix, with a name of more than 31 characters, the folder that
contains that file, and all other files in that folder become unusable from a 
Mac.  You can look at the files,  but you can't touch them, and as soon as you
close the window on that folder, the strange behavior will happen.   As soon as I 
delete that file (using Unix) the strange behavior goes away.  Again, this doesn't
just affect the offending file, but the entire directory structure from the folder
that contains the file on down.

So, don't try to have looong file names in your NFS/MAC/DOS shared file space.
The Macs won't be able to handle it.

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Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0704; (313) 747-2778 - William.Jaynes@med.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mcollins@db (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: Netware NFS and DNS
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:40:44 GMT

backman@vaxeline.ftp.com (Larry Backman) writes:
: In article <1992Nov4.231506.6281@novell.com> mcollins@db (Marty Collins) writes:
: 
:  >> backman@vaxeline.ftp.com (Larry Backman) writes:
:  >> : Am I correct in my impression that Netware's NFS NLM does not use
:  >> : DNS to do name resolution but requires a host table?
:  >> Yes you are correct.
:  >> : Is there a way to force Netware NFS into using DNS.
:  >> Whatdaya mean?
:  >> Do you have a DNS.nlm that you wrote that you want NFS to interface with?
: 
:  No; but I have a nice organized network with nice managed DNS servers...
: 
:  >> IF so then highly doubtful.
: 
:  No I have 500 PC's that I want to use to mount Netware NFS.  Since PC's
:  and their addresses are somewhat volatile; us (FTP Software) being true
:  believers in the centralized approach (DNS) vs. the distributed
:  approach ( host files) want our NFS servers to use existing network
:  services as opposed to duplicating host files all over the place and hoping
:  to keep those file in sync.
: 
:  >> 
:  >> 
:  >> Wait around and you may hear what you want.
:  >> 
:  Yes but I want it now :-).  I really would like to pitch the Sparc into 
:  the test lab, put Ultrix out to pasture, but to do so I need a Netware
:  NFS server that plays the way NFS servers are supposed to.

: 
:  And while we are at it, it needs PCNFSD for the 27th time :-).

WHY?

If you have PCNFS then you must have at least one UNIX box
somewhere on your network, and it can run the PCNFSD.

If you don't have any Unix boxes then it would be a waste to have PCNFS.

: 
:  Larry
: 

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From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: Hiding Macs from other zone users
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:06:55 GMT

In article <Tony.McDonald-181192124447@launchy.ncl.ac.uk> unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Tony McDonald) writes:
>Hello,
>We have a server with two ethernet cards. One card is connected to the
>campus ethernet, the other onto a small 'leg' that has 14 Macs attached to
>it.
>
>We want to prevent the 'leg' macs from seeing any AppleTalk traffic from
>the campus in general, and to stop our users on the 'leg' side from
>printing to any of the other printers that are available on campus.
>
>Does anyone have any clues as to how this may be achieved.
>The first priority is to prevent AppleTalk traffic from emanating from this
>'leg'. Stopping printing is also necessary, but we beleive that Novell can
>handle this adequately.
>
>Any and all help will be appreciated.

Hi,

Unbind AppleTlk from the "Leg's" ethernet interface.  Then, install a NetWare
Router (Routegen is bundled with the OS, I think).  You will then install and
configure the VAPs (NetWare for Macintosh Value Added Processes v2.x) to be
loaded on top of ROUTER.EXE.  Subsequently, the "Leg" Macintoshes will see only 
the file server which is targeted by the VAPs.  Furthermore, no AppleTalk 
traffic will be passed between the two ethernet NICs in the 3.11 server.

Print services will be handled in much the same way as the file services when
using the VAPs.

Hope this helps.  Let me know if it does not.

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.

PS.  Keep your eyes open in the near future for a more elegant solution to this
problem.  But realize as well that currently there is PLENTY of security flex-
iblity to offer very similar functionality.  No user can login to a server on
which she has no rights.  No user can use a queue unless he is a queue user.  
You may want to investigate the power of security before using the rather brute
force functionality provided by the VAPs.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: biloggen@cs.few.eur.nl (R.P. Loggen)
Subject: Repost: multi-server printing question
Organization: Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:46:05 GMT

Hi there,
I have a problem with setting up a print routing between 
two servers.
This is what I want:

User at workstation 1 works with WordPerfect 5.1.
He sends a printjob to Queue "Printer B"
The printjob is send to the server A he is logged into.
This server A places the job in the spool-directory.
Another server B sees the job and gets it. Server B knows
that printer B is attached to a workstation 2 that is logged
in at server B. 
Server B sends the job to workstation 2, at which RPRINTER 
is loaded. Workstation 2 processes the job ands sends it
to the Printer B.
In ''''graphic''''':

User -> printjob -> WP.EXE -> Workstation 1 logged in to--> Server 1
Server 1 <-- Server 2 gets printjob --> sends it to Workstation 2
Workstation 2 is logged in at server 2 and accepts via Rprinter

Pffff, it isn't getting any clearer right :-)
Any hints?

I followed the instructions in the Novell 3.11 handbooks,
but sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't....

Thanks in advance
Roeland Loggen




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: Need Recommendation on HD's
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Systems, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:51:51 GMT

In article <722224893snx@uumike.UUCP> mikey@nlbbs.uucp writes:
>I am in the process of spec'ing out a new Fileserver for our 20 node
>network.  We currently have a 330 megabyte ESDI drive that is full (25
>Megabytes left).  I am going to upgrade and build a 486 50MHz server in
>a tower case, but I need to know more about the Hard Drives - I am
>thinking that we may need approximately 1 Gig of storage.  I am looking
>at SCSI-2 drives ISA or EISA I haven't desided - probably EISA.  Any
>recommendations?

I'm running four servers, each with one Connor 3540 SCSI drives on Adaptec
1542B controllers, and a fifth server with two 3540s on a 1542B. They work
great; no problems whatsoever. Being 3.5" drives, they only take a half-
high bay, so it's easy to add a few more.

Connor also has a gigabyte drive, but I'm not sure what the model number
is. We're installing a lot of their smaller IDE drives in systems (over
9,000 last month), and have very little trouble with them.


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From: kfho@plains (**** Hiho ***)
Subject: <<< Help Nondedicate NW 2.2>>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:57:04 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Is anyone out there have experience on installing NW 2.2 nondedicate mode
I am pretty new on networking, just get started , I am trying to install
a Novell 2.2 in non-dedicate mode. I got the server up once, however when
I try to install the DOS or OS/2 which totally erase my NW partition..
Is anyone get me some clue ............

-Hiho

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