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From: mohrc@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Craig Mohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Modem installation (Supras)
Date: 27 Dec 92 23:11:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: storm.cs.orst.edu

I am having a problem installing 2 supra v32 modems to the backpanel of a
Sequent S81 running Dynix/PTX 1.3  As far as I can tell I have everything
configured correctly but I must have missed something. Anyway the problem
is this: The modems will auto answer fine and at the correct speeds but all
the caller will get is lots of garbage. This isnt that unusual I guess 
because calling into the HST's (1200 yuk) does the same thing but the garbage
goes away after a few returns. This isnt the case with the Supras. Unfortuanatly
Supra has been VERY unhelpful and blamed everything on someone else (namely
Sequent) and I have gotten almost the same response from sequent because "its
not a modem we support". This is all fine and great but I would like to get
these working has anyone installed any Supra v32 modems and had similar 
problems and then been able to fix them? I have been bouncing around for 
3 months now between Supra and Sequent so I hope someone out there can help me.

Oh and still on modems, does anyone have an idea why an HST 1200 modem refuses
to realize it has no carrier and hang up? We have had problems with the HST's 
not hanging up if a call in user does something like crash his machine or if 
someone calls voice it usually hangs (this is a "supported" modem by Sequent
but they have no idea).

Please E-Mail replys I will post a summery.

Thanks,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
From: holzman@sequent.com (Alan Holzman)
Subject: Re: REPOST: what is PTX 1.4 ?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: sqnt
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 18:03:25 GMT

pete@wvus.org (Pete Gregory) writes:

>Hi... we're running five Unisys 6000/70/80's here on PTX 1.3.1.  I see
>a lot of news postings from people running PTX 1.4, and wonder:
>  * whose release is it?  Sequent?  Unisys?  both?
>  * what hardware platforms does it run on?
>Thanks  

	I'm not sure why Pete has re-posted this ... here is the answer again.

        DYNIX/ptx 1.4 is a Sequent-only release running on Sequent
Symmetry 2000 systems. The "PTX 1.3.1" which Pete mentions is a
Unisys version of DYNIX/ptx 1.3 from Sequent with Unisys drivers added
to it to support Unisys specific peripherals and comms products. The
Unisys version of PTX 1.3.1 also has support for a few of the new
peripherals which Sequent added in DYNIX/ptx 1.4 (FDDI & 3480 tape devices).
 
        The most current version of DYNIX/ptx is 2.0 which has been
shipping for the last 3 weeks with new features beyond what is available
in either PTX 1.3.1 or DYNIX/ptx 1.4. DYNIX/ptx 2.0 is only available
from Sequent for Sequent Symmetry systems ...

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Alan Holzman					Phone =	(503) 578-5184
Operating Systems Product Line Manager		FAX =   (503) 578-9890 
Sequent Computer Systems Inc.   MS=DES2-365	Internet = holzman@sequent.com
15450 SW Koll Pkwy,  Beaverton, OR. 97006       UUCP = ...!sequent!holzman 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
From: brians@atlastele.com (Brian Sheets)
Subject: Help setting up nameserver.
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Disclaimer: Views expressed do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:07:22 GMT


I am having a small problem setting up a tcp connection and I wonder 
if some nice person out there could lend some assistance.

I have a subscription to PSI.COM. When I connect to the service (via 
dialup slip) and establish a net connection the nameserver on the network
grabs hold of the net and overides my /etc/hosts file.

I was wondering if I set up a local nameserver if that would cure this
problem.

If this would work great, but I cannot figure out how to set it up



Thanks

brians
-- 
Brian Sheets		    _   /|  	"TRUCK?! What truck?"
Support Engineer  	    \`o_O'    	 
Atlas Telecom Inc. 	      ( ) 	   -Raiders of the Lost Ark
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
From: imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: Mirror of Solbourne.Solbourne.COM
Organization: ParcPlace Boulder
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:57:47 GMT


Due to an error in communication, the files that were on
solbourne.solbourne.com in pub/rb were removed before I could grab a
final copy.  I'm looking for either a mirror site, or someone that has
a list/all the files.  I'd like to setup an archive here when we get
our full internet connection (and more disk space on the gateway
machine).  Anybody that can help me out will be in my eternal debt.

Warner

P.S.  No, for some reason there were no backups of this particular
partion that I can go back to. :-(.

P.P.S.  The software buisiness unit that I worked for at Solbourne has
been sold to ParcPlace Systems.  I now work for ParcPlace here in
Boulder.
-- 
Warner Losh		imp@boulder.parcplace.COM	ParcPlace Boulder
I've almost finished my brute force solution to subtlety.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Micro PDP 11
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:09:50 GMT

In article <BznHn7.A5F@world.std.com>, mbg@world.std.com (Megan B Gentry) writes:
> mfroedge@lunatix.uucp (Maxwell Froedge) writes:
...
> 	There are two things contributing to whether your
> 	system is 18-bit or 22-bit.  First, the CPU.  If you
> 	have a KDF11-B (quad-high module), you have 22-bit
> 	support on-board.  If it is a KDF11-A (rev.c), you
> 	also have 22-bit support.  KDF11-A (rev.a) is 18-bit
> 	only.

Bzzt, wrong. The rev c KDF11-A was the only 18 bit CPU in the 23s, despite
DEC propaganda of the time. ( "No, you have to pay $$$$ for a 23+ for that... ")
You will also have to chuck any 18-bit memory or controlers if you want more
than 128KW. Note, 128, not 124. You can have all 128KW in a Qbus.

~Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
Subject: Re: Micro PDP 11
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:31:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

mbg@world.std.com (Megan B Gentry) writes:
> 	only.  Second, the backplane.  Since you mentioned they
> 	are MicroPDP-11's, I know they do have 22-bit support.
> 	The backplane is Q-CD for the first three slots and
> 	'zig-zag' q-q for the remaining slots.

Serpentine, not zig-zag.  Grant priority in a BA23 backplane goes:

	Slot	AB	CD
	1	 1	 *
	2	 2	 *
	3	 3	 *
	4	 4	 5
	5	 7	 6
	6	 8	 9
	7	11	10
	8	12	13

	* "CD" interconnect -- uVAX or 11/8x memory only.

--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
From: mbg@world.std.com (Megan B Gentry)
Subject: Re: Micro PDP 11
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:28:25 GMT

zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:

>In article <BznHn7.A5F@world.std.com>, mbg@world.std.com (Megan B Gentry) writes:
>> mfroedge@lunatix.uucp (Maxwell Froedge) writes:
>...
>> 	There are two things contributing to whether your
>> 	system is 18-bit or 22-bit.  First, the CPU.  If you
>> 	have a KDF11-B (quad-high module), you have 22-bit
>> 	support on-board.  If it is a KDF11-A (rev.c), you
>> 	also have 22-bit support.  KDF11-A (rev.a) is 18-bit
>> 	only.

>Bzzt, wrong. The rev c KDF11-A was the only 18 bit CPU in the 23s, despite
>DEC propaganda of the time. ( "No, you have to pay $$$$ for a 23+ for that... ")
>You will also have to chuck any 18-bit memory or controlers if you want more
>than 128KW. Note, 128, not 124. You can have all 128KW in a Qbus.

Sorry, I have a KDF11-A (rev.c) which has MUCH more than 128kw on it
at home...  The KDF11-A (rev.c) carried the extra four addressing
lines out to the bus, where the rev.a had not.  The rev.a could
only address 18-bits because those addressing lines stopped on-board.

(I seem to remember someone hacking a rev.a board so that the extra
four lines were carried to the bus, but I don't remember who.  I think
the lines had to pass through inverters first.)

					Megan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
From: mbg@world.std.com (Megan B Gentry)
Subject: Re: Micro PDP 11
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:47:31 GMT

mfroedge@lunatix.uucp (Maxwell Froedge) writes:



>1.  Where can I find software and documentation for these guys?

	Of course, you can find them through DEC.  The RT-11
	order number is QJ013 (or at least it was, last time
	I looked).  Most recent version is V5.6, released
	earlier this year.

>2.  Can I change the floppies to 1.2 meg drives.  I seem to
>remember a DEC PDP with a 1.2 meg floppy.

	If you mean the RX33 - yes, as long as you have an
	RQDX3 interface.

>3.  These are 11/23 processors.  I have 256K NEC 3rd cards
>installed.  What is the maxium memory these support (both the NEC
>cards and the 11/23 processor.)  The system is a Q-bus.

	There are two things contributing to whether your
	system is 18-bit or 22-bit.  First, the CPU.  If you
	have a KDF11-B (quad-high module), you have 22-bit
	support on-board.  If it is a KDF11-A (rev.c), you
	also have 22-bit support.  KDF11-A (rev.a) is 18-bit
	only.  Second, the backplane.  Since you mentioned they
	are MicroPDP-11's, I know they do have 22-bit support.
	The backplane is Q-CD for the first three slots and
	'zig-zag' q-q for the remaining slots.

	In a 22-bit machine, you can have up to 4mb of memory.

					Megan Gentry
					(RT-11 developer of 15 years)

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From: qumqats@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Joel M. Baldwin )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro,comp.sys.dec,misc.forsale.computers,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other
Subject: 4sale: DecMates, Rainbow, and Pros
Keywords: DEC Rainbow DecMate Pro
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:12:05 GMT
Organization: Citrus Grove Public Access ( 916 ) 381-5822 Sacramento CA. USA

Time to start clearing out the garage.   

These items are for sale.  Make an offer.

PC100   AKA   Rainbow 100

PC278   AKA   DecMate II

PC238   AKA   DecMate III

PC350   AKA   Pro 350

-- 

Joel M. Baldwin
System Administrator,  Citrus Grove Public Access
N6NPL      H ( 916 ) 383-9470        W ( 916 ) 452-1481
uunet!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!citrus!qumqats    Sacramento CA.   USA.
qumqats@citrus.SAC.CA.US						/\../\
From: art@cyclone.MITRE.org (Arthur T. McClinton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
Subject: Re: Re:Rainbow 100
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:00:12 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Originator: art@cyclone


I was asked by a co-worker if there are any tax-exempt organizations that
will take Rainbow Computers.  He has a working Rainbow 100A that he would like
to donate in exchange for a tax deduction.
From: kemp@andy.bgsu.edu (Leader Deslock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
Subject: rainbow users group
Keywords: rainbow
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:15:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.


Hello out there,

	Anyone know if the rainbow users group is alive and kicking?

I am in the process of getting a rainbow with the hard diskcontroller
but no hard disk, and I am interested in getting the most current
version msdos for the thing.

Also I am interested in getting various utils for the system.


thank in advance,

wade
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro,comp.sys.dec,misc.forsale.computers,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other
From: hadj@hadj.mie.clarkson.edu (Hadj Ounis, 303 Old Main,268-6564,)
Subject: WANTED  IDE Hardrives 80mb or plus (reasonable price)..........................
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:28:10 GMT

Hi
I am looking for IDE hard drives with a reasonable price only
I am not intrested to the price of new ones please.

I you have one that you don't need it any more please
send me some information about it:
age, model, access time, how it was used and your asking 
price.
(I prefer it to be seagate, maxtor or conner).
Note: If you have other type of drives with controler 
     please let me know I amy be interested too.

Thank you in advance



Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
From: lrm28@cas.org ()
Subject: P/OS 1.7 diskette sets for FREE (almost...)
Summary: got a bunch.  Want some
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:38:08 GMT

I have about 175 sets of version 1.7 of the Professional Operating
systems diskettes for DEC's venerable PRO350.  They are FREE!!!!!!
I am willing to send them to you IF you send me a self addressed and
stamped mailer.  If you're interested in getting some, contact me
via e-mail first.  These diskettes are unused, and are RX-50 format.


-- 
Luke Mayercin  lrm28@cas.org  "Why does ear wax taste like it does?"
Chemical Abstracts Service is not responsible for these comments.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
Subject: Pro 3xx stuff, FC/FS
From: wnimhack@vax2.winona.msus.edu
Date: 31 Dec 92 22:14:17 CST
Organization: Winona State University


I have a pile of DEC Pro 350s in the living room, and would dearly love to
get them out of there as system units, parts, or whatever.  Most have the
FPP chip and the EBO, and some even have the 4-line add-on multiterminal
option.  Spare LK201 keyboards but none working.  First come first served
on anything in these suckers, as is, you prepay the shipping.  Kick in a
fiver for support of the RSX BBS and I'll do my best to check out whatever
you want before it goes out the door.
                                                       
Have a considerable amount of software on hand also, ranging from TK!Solver
to P/OS distribution kits, plus the full Saturn/WP /Calc /etc stuff.  Can
make images of any of these if you need kits.

I am looking for the following for my own Pro 380:  A DECNA (Ethernet
card), the auxiliary keypad for the Pro TMS (Telephone Management System)
and a PRO RTI (realtime interface card).

Bruce R. Mitchell
wnimhack@vax2.winona.msus.edu
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From: rocker@csa.bu.edu (The Long Haired One)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro,comp.sys.dec,misc.forsale.computers,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other
Subject: Re: 4sale: DecMates, Rainbow, and Pros
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:58:23 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec.micro
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: qumqats@citrus.SAC.CA.US's message of 22 Dec 92 12:12:05 GMT


>>>>> On 22 Dec 92 12:12:05 GMT,
	 qumqats@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Joel M. Baldwin ) said:

|> Time to start clearing out the garage.   
|> These items are for sale.  Make an offer.

|> PC100   AKA   Rainbow 100

out of curiousity what kind of Rainbow? (ie Model 100A 100B)

-Rocker

Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
From: lrm28@cas.org ()
Subject: DEC RX-50 Diskettes for FREE (almost)!!!
Organization: They'd rather not say at this time...
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 13:34:18 GMT


O.K.  Here's the deal:
I've got about 150 unused sets of P O/S 1.7 diskettes for FREE.
Send me a self-addressed STAMPED envelope big enough for
a diskette box 6" by 6" by 1".  Weight is about 8 oz.

Send that STAMPED self addressed mailer to

Luke Mayercin
ATTN: Diskette giveaway
323 S. Weyant Ave.
Columbus  OH  43213

Now, repeat after me:
2 pounds...2 days...$2.90
2 pounds...2 days...$2.90
2 pounds...2 days...$2.90
2 pounds...2 days...$2.90
2 pounds...2 days...$2.90
2 pounds...2 days...$2.90
-- 
Luke Mayercin  lrm28@cas.org  "Why does ear wax taste like it does?"
Chemical Abstracts Service is not responsible for these comments.
From: mccormac@pooh.usafa.af.mil (Chris McCormack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro
Subject: Pristine Hard Sector Disks
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:18:21 GMT
Reply-To: mccormac@pooh.usafa.af.mil
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


   I just acquired a case of disks - Verbatim double sided, double density, 10
sector.  If anyone out there could use a few (260!), I would be more than happy
to trade with you.  (Note - I think only 3 or 4 have ever been out of their
dust jacket.)
						Chris McCormack
						mccormac@usafa.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: mbg@world.std.com (Megan B Gentry)
Subject: Re: PDP 11/34 Information
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:07:32 GMT

tfoley@camaro (Tim Foley) writes:

>  I know, its ancient, but it was free.  Anyways, I known have two
>PDP 11/34's, one is from 1978 and the other from 1984, the older
>one has a small keypad on the front, manual bootstraping eh!  The
>newer model doesn't.  I also got a RL01, but thats just a 10 meg HD
>as I remember.

The fact that the 'newer' one doesn't have a console is not due to
it's being newer.  You could get 11/34's with or without the
programmers console.  I think the option was a KY11-LB.

Yes, RL01 is 10mb.

>  The uqestion I want to know if anyone has a copy of an older Unix os for 
>this guy, I can come with up a RX01 and maybe and RX02 for floppy.  

One of the 2.xx BSD distributions might run on it.  I think they're
up to 2.11BSD.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer)
Subject: 022.li (lisp-part) results of SPEC for R4[04]00, Alpha
Organization: Private UUCP, Martin Cracauer, Norderstedt, Germany
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 13:22:04 GMT

Hello!

Could anybody mail me the results of 022.li of SPECint92 (Lisp -
Interpreter) for the follwoing machines:

- Sun SPARC 10/31 and 10/41
- SGI Crimson and/or Indigo R4000
- DEC Alpha

[I've got these results for most other workstations. If you want them,
I mail.]

Thanks
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Waldstrasse 200, W-2000 Norderstedt, Germany
Tel.: +49 / 522 18 29, Fax.: +49 / 522 85 36
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: lancelot@spock.uucp (Thor Lancelot Simon)
Subject: Re: VAX BSD final answer...
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:26:03 GMT

In article <BzAEsz.Ipy@dscomsa.desy.de> Hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.041235.4661@panix.com>, tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot
>Simon) writes:
>
>|>In article <Byx3D5.326@dscomsa.desy.de> Hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>|>>In article <DGRAY.92Dec2000244@menudo.uh.edu>, dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis
>|>Gray
>|>>Jr.) writes:
>|>>
>|>>|>It doesn't look like there is a free unix for the vax.  That's too
>|>>|>bad, since there really isn't a really good OS for the vax anywhere.
>|>>
>|>>Except of course for VMS which did a decade ago all the things that UNIX has
>|>>only just started to.
>|>
>|>Except of course for VMS, which was as slow and ungainly a decade ago as UNIX
>|>has only just started to become.
>|>
>|>(Now if there were only a TOPS-20 or ITS port for the vax...)
>
>Problem with O/Ss is that in order to solve everyone's needs they need a lot of
>functionality. UNIX got by by offering a very limited amount of functionality
>which was exactly what a hacker running simple single user tasks with a minimnum

So.  UNIX is designed primarily for single-user use?  If that's not what you're 
saying, it sure sounds like it.  Mr. Hallam-Baker, you know better.


>of complex file handling requirements.
>
>In the 70's everyone realized that to make databases run fast you had to put
>sophisticated data structures onto the disk and handle them in the I/O subsystem
>rather than the processor. Nowadays suggesting such systems receives hosts of
>flames from the people who have accepted the sequential file structures only
>line.

Please provide some evidence that your way is better.

>
>Yep by all means lets replace VMS with something better. But for heavens sake
>lets not let UNIX win. If UNIX became the only O/S standard we would never get
>anything better.

It sounds to me like you can buy what you want from IBM....
>
>
>
>--
>
>Phill Hallam-Baker


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From: bogstad@blaze.cs.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: How do I attach an RA81 to a DECsystem 5400?
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:26:20 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD


	I've got a couple of RA81s which used to be used on a now defunct
VAX 8530 which I would like to use.  I've been digging through the manuals
for our 5400 and it appears that I can probably attach these drives; but I
will need a KDA50 controller to do so.  Can somebody tell me if this is
correct and if there is anything else that I need to worry about (the rev of
the KDA50 for example)?  I appear to have a 5400 model 210QS with an
additional expansion chasis with one RF style disk if that matters.  Will I
have any problems with the MSCP implemented by the KDA50 controller versus
that used by the DSSI/RF disk combination?.  Can I put a KDA50 in a 210QS
package?  What should I pay for a used KDA50?

				Thanks,
				Bill Bogstad
				bogstad@cs.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Console output on DECStation
Organization: QUAD Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 22:35:04 GMT

One of the DECStation 5000s I am using has no graphics card or keyboard.
I have it networked to a SPARC II and basically use NFS and telnet to
connect to it. The display variable is set to the SPARC system.

This works well, but the DECstation uses tty1 as the console port and
any system messages that would typically show up in the session manager
window are send to the serial port. As the system is set to autoboot,
I normally don't have a serial terminal attached.

My questions is: 

	How can I open a console window and redirect console output to
	it (similar to contool on the SUN)?

Thanx for any help

-- 

Roland Besserer							     '86 RG500
QUAD Systems							    '91 RGV250
roland@quadsys.com	"License and registration please!" "What registration?"