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Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 13:11:35 CET
From: <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Laserjet III/IIIsi: reading back status from parallel port

 This posting gave a plethora of Q's, but I will address those re PostScript.
 PS for IIISi comes in 2 forms :-
 1/ Install it yourself, this consists of 6 (large) ROMs that have to be
installed on the mother-board wich owing to a (apparent) lack of support pins
flexes like mad. It's a very hairy procedure and not for the faint at heart.
Manual says you need 3MB for PS, in US printer comes with 1MB, so you need 2
MB extra. Try to run on less it's locks-up. If it's MENU's in PS and the start
page is still turned on, it's a pig to get it reset. NOT RECOMMENDED.
 2/ Later announced (probably as above was such a mess) was factory installed
PS option that comes complete with 1MB memory, thus 2 in total (HP did us in
Holland, printer already had 2MB here so as it comes from the states with ONE
extra on-board, we still only get 2MB). This is a "small" board occupying one
of the SIMM slots. They've managed to shrink 6 BIG ICs to an overgrown SIMM
with 2 moderate ICs and a few smaller bits. It seems to work weel on only 2MB
memory. I suspect that as it's in-line to main memory, even though a test
doesn't show it as memory, that maybe it acts as an execute memory and that
maybe the other type has to be copied into RAM 1st.
 Is suspect that the DIY 6 ICs is probably being discontinued.

 This of course raises another problem, i.e. with PS in a SIMM slot, the
printer can no longer carry it's max (as per spec) 17MB. I suspect that's why
hidden deep in the Paintjet 300 XL announcement is a 8MB SIMM.

 Price, Holland list 2150 DFls + taxes (That's LIST). Typically about 1800 inc
tax, that's about 11 USD, prces lower in US so I would guess about 700-800 USD
(but that's a guess).

 WORD OF ADVICE. The formatter is VERY fast and can get ahead of the print
engine, bung an extra 4MB in and when you have jobs that have occasional small
graphics in the documents, a mix of IO overlapped with interpretation and
with printing can run without delays (i.e. the interpretter may be several
pages ahead of the print engine so when the graphic arives the delay in receipt
is taken up by the slack).
Xref: sparky comp.periphs.printers:2570 comp.sys.hp:10132
From: allyn@sdd.hp.com (Allyn Fratkin)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP LJ IIIsi, set duplex mode from PostScript?
Date: 7 Sep 1992 13:09:47 -0700
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdlx.sdd.hp.com

In article <Sep07.171227.80145@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, goss@CS.ColoState.EDU (Mike Goss) writes:
> Anyone know how to set a HP LaserJet IIIsi to duplex mode from a
> PostScript file?

i'm posting this because it may be of general interest.  i hear this a lot.
either it is not documented well in the manual, or nobody reads it.  :-)

for normal (long-edge) duplexing:
	statusdict begin true setduplexmode false settumble end
for short-edge duplexing:
	statusdict begin true setduplexmode true settumble end

you can also use the following between files if you are printing
more than one at a time.  it will force a page eject between
documents with odd numbers of pages:

	statusdict begin duplexmode firstside not and {showpage} if end

not an official response.
-- 
 From the virtual mind of Allyn Fratkin            allyn@sdd.hp.com
                          San Diego Division       - or -
                          Hewlett-Packard Company  uunet!ucsd!hp-sdd!allyn
From: TONY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Tony Roder)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Which laser Printer
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:12:02 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Sep11.114403.18869@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, qh100@cus.cam.ac.uk (Q.
Huang) says:
>
>I am looking for printers which have automatic AppleTalk and postscript
>switching. I can spend up to 1500 pound(about $3000). Which printer
>can do this job and falls in my price range.
>
I believe the QMS PS410 and its big brothers can do that.  Advertised at
$1495 in US the last time I looked.

-----------------------------------
Tony Roder, speaking his mind .....
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.novell,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Subject: Re: **ETHERNET CARD for HPIIIsi speaking IPX and TCP/IP**
Reply-To: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:43:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.210510.9299@novell.com>, dseeman@novell.com
 (Daniel Seeman) wrote:
>If using the ethernet/IPX interface, just use PCONSOLE to create a
>queue and attatch it to the queue server and off you go.  If you then
>add NW4MAC v3.01 or greater, your Macintosh clients can use the printer
>as well. ... I am not sure about how this would work with your Multinet
>queue though.

MultiNet can print to remote LPD queues.  So if you front-end a NetWare
print queue with the Novell LPD NLM (packaged with both NetWare NFS and
Novell's Flex/IP product) or Clarkson University's Charon 4.0 gateway,
you can print from TGV MultiNet to an IPX-based printer.

...Sam
--
<skl@wimsey.bc.ca> -- Connectivity Technology Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: dgilly@us.oracle.com (Daniel Gilly)
Subject: need advice on PostScript printers
Summary:   SilentWriter seems better than QMS PS410, but is it?
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA 94065
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:42:02 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I've been shopping for a PostScript printer for personal use that can run
either from a PC or a Mac.  I've narrowed the choices down to two:

1)  QMS-PS410
2)  NEC SilentWriter Model 95

[Note:  I eliminated the Texas Instruments contender (insufficient font
support) as well as the Apple Personal LaserWriter NTR (overpriced
compared with final two).]

I'd appreciate any advice from sys admin types or from satisfied/
dissatisfied users.  Here's a summary of major differences I've learned:

Attribute		QMS		NEC
---------               ---             ---

Price                   $100 more
Engine speed            4 page/minute   6 ppm
# of Fonts              45              35
Paper Cassette          ~ $170 more     Included
Toner Cartridges        ~ $70           ~ $180
Font Cartridges         1 slot          2 slots


The RAM (2 Mb) and processor for each are comparable.

I'm leaning toward the NEC SilentWriter 95 because the added output speed
is important, and 35 fonts are plenty for my needs.  Also, the NEC has an
extra paper feeder that can be used to print directly on envelopes.

My concerns, however, are with "intangibles" -- reliability, ease of use,
quality of output, and lifespan of the toner cartridge.  Is it true that
the NEC SilentWriter relies only on this very expensive toner cartridge?
If so, do the toner cartridges for each printer have the same lifespan?
(After buying 2 replacement cartridges, the printers would cost the same.)

Also, I heard that the SilentWriter does not automatically let you spool
your output, tying up your computer as a result.

I would appreciate any info about 
1) the attributes discussed above, 
2) additional factors I may have overlooked, or 
3) better printer choices (under $1600) than these two.

E-mail is welcome.
------
Daniel Gilly              E-mail:  dgilly@us.oracle.com
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: duncan@loris.cisab.indiana.edu (Shan Duncan)
Subject: Nec Silentwriter, ethernet card, macs and pc's
Organization: Indiana University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:26:06 GMT


  We are considering getting a NEC Silentwriter Model 95.  We would
like to share it over 10baseT ethernet between Pc's with ethernet
cards and Mac's with asante ethernet cards.  

   Any suggestions as to what we would need?  If we got a ethernet
 box for the printer we could use an lpr utility from the Pc side.

  The Mac connectons are what have us puzzeled.  


  So what would we need to share a NEC printer between Mac's and Pc's
over ethernet?


  Any hints, suggestions, information is appreciated.


Thank you



Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: vic@class.gsfc.nasa.gov (James V. Ryan (Vic))
Subject: Re: Compaq vs HP IIIsi printer
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 11:17:07 GMT

km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg) writes:

>I've seen a zillion articles now about the new Compaq printers with
>comparisions to the HPIIIsi. However, none of them speak to the two
>most important features (to us) in the HPIIIsi.

  I called Compaq Support on these very same questions...

>Does the Compaq support TCP? The HPIIIsi does.

  No.. Sometime in the future..  no estimate of when

>Does the Compaq have a duplex option? The HPIIIsi does.

  No.. Sometime in the future..  no estimate of when

--James V. Ryan                           vic@class.gsfc.nasa.gov
  Code 530.2, Bldg. 25                    Phone 301-286-4841
  Goddard Space Flight Center             Fax   301-286-4355
  Greenbelt, MD  20771
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.novell,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones)
Subject: Re: **ETHERNET CARD for HPIIIsi speaking IPX and TCP/IP**
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:58:53 GMT

>>We are looking to attach an HP3si printer directly to our ethernet network.
>>We would like to be able to print via tcp/ip (a VAX Multinet queue), ipx
>>from our Novell v3.11 network, and maybe from our MACs.  

Extended systems (800) 235 7576 has many connectivity solutions for HP
stuff. Non seem to fit your bill, they have EtherTalk/Novell and
EtherTalk/Localtalk/Novell etc. Only TCP/IP I see is the HP JetDirect.

tj
From: qh100@cus.cam.ac.uk (Q. Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Which laser Printer
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:44:03 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England



I am looking for printers which have automatic AppleTalk and postscript
switching. I can spend up to 1500 pound(about $3000). Which printer
can do this job and falls in my price range.

Thanx.

Qin
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From: lkress@reed.edu (Lucien Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: OKIDATA Microline 182
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:48:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep10.034845.13359
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

A non-profit organization I sometimes help out has an ancient
Okidata Microline 182, with no manuals.  Recently this printer
began printing in condensed type for no apparent reason.  This
may have happened because of someone's ineptitude in Lotus 123
or WordPerfect 5.1, but now even a PrtScrn or a "copy filename
lpt1" results in condensed type.

Do you have any ideas?  Are there dip-switches I couldn't find?
Is there a way to run a setup program on the printer (I tried
holding down some of the buttons while turning the printer on,
but this didn't work)?  Thanks in advance for any help --
please email me.

Lucien <lkress@reed.edu>
From: jackb@kpc.com (Jack Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Apple Laser Writer II (M6000)
Summary: Question on Laser Writer Interface
Keywords: Apple Laser
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:57:47 GMT
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computers Inc.

PLEASE HELP!!!!!  I have a Apple Laser Writer II (M6000) but without any
interface.  From what I understand it is the type of interface that makes
this printer either a Laser Writer IIf or IIg.  I have called around for
prices on these interfaces and they are more expensive then some other
Laser Printers.  I have 2 Questions.

1. Does anyone know where I could get an interface at a more reasonable
   Price?  (Perhaps these are available used or repaired?)

2. I currently need only to connect this printer (once I get an interface)
   to my Mac Only.  Is there more types of interfaces to serve this
   purpose then a "g" and an "f"?

Thanks in Advance for Any Response.
Please post or email directly to jackb@horn.kpc.com

Thank You,
Jack
From: k@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Steve Kao)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:55:32 GMT
Subject: Re: Laserjet IIIsi; Duplex; Postscript; RAM; limitcheck; bitmap; image; picstr readstring ?
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers

Richard Tilley:
> Cycling the power on the latter solves the problem even though we do a
> '\033%-12345X@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = PostScript\r\n' before each job and a
> tr -d '\004\033\000' during each job and a
> '\004\033%-12345X' after each job.

Have you configured SYS SWITCH=YES* (or ON*, I forget which) on the
IIISi's front panel?  With it set to NO* (or OFF*), the printer will not
do automatic language switching and prints a portion of the escape
sequence that switches the language from PCL to PS and back again.

- Steve Kao
Xref: sparky comp.periphs.printers:2655 comp.protocols.appletalk:3385 comp.sys.mac.comm:9012
From: jasper@geriatrix.cs.uoregon.edu (Jon Barber)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: SmartCom II - hangup problems
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:51:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Sep15.165144.25029
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

I've got a Hayes 2400 and I'm using SmartComm II - its
okay, it does the basics, but it takes SIXTY SECONDS to
disconnect, and it does this modally, freezing my mac
for agonizing seconds while my fingers are oh oh oh wanting
to work...

Anyone know what's going on?
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: yves@speedy.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yves Vidal)
Subject: PANASONIC Laser Printer KX-P4410
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:13:48 GMT

Hi there,

I have a few question regarding the Laser Printer
Panasonic 4410. It is one of the cheapest of the 
market today, but I would appreciate reading your 
opinion about it.

1-What is the cost of the maintenance (toner, parts)?
2-Can you use regular paper?
3-How would you rate the crispness of the printer?
4-Is it worth improving the memory size?
5-How does it compare to other laser printers in the 
same price range?

Thanks for answering.
From: byron@animal
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Colored Toner Cartridges for HPLJIII
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:25:05 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: byron

Does anyone know of toner cartridges for the HP LaserJet III that contain
COLORED toner, like red for example.  If such a product exists, can you 'mix
and match' the colored catridge with the black-toner cartridge without leaving
any 'residue' from the previous cartridge to get on the current prints?

:byron   byron@yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca
From: cyn@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (Cyndi Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Kodaak Diconix 701 portable printer
Date: 14 Sep 1992 15:57:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MD Anderson Cancer Center

Hello.
I recently bought the aforementioned printer and like it alot.
I have one question:
I have heard of people refilling ink cartridges for bubble/ink jet
printers.  Does anyone have any experience refilling the cartridges
in the Diconix line?  
Please e-mail as I donot read this group regularly.  (I will post a
summary, if I get anything useful!)
-------------
All opinions are mine, I tell you, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE (unless 
you want to rent them for a small fee...)
-Cyndi Smith-------------------cyn@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu
-M.D. Anderson Cancer Center-----Houston, Texas
-ph: 713/794-4938--------------fax: 713/792-4262
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: ndm1417@summa.tamu.edu (MONTGOMERY, NOEL DAVIS)
Subject: Opinions on Panasonic Laser Printer
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 03:41:00 GMT

I am considering buying a Panasonic KX-P4430 because it is a
PCL 5 compatible with resolution enhancement (SatinPrint).
I can get one for approximately $880.

I run a 486-33, Win3.1 (True Type)
Winword 2.0, Excel 4.0, GenericCADD 6.0.

How is the KX-P4430 for image quality, print speed ,  and
durability, cost of toner and drum?

Any opinions on Panasonic Laser printers would be appreciated.

Noel Montgomery
Texas A&M University
From: robbie@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: want serial to parallel convertor that is battery powered
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:18:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

I have a dedicated piece of hardware which has a serial port. I am looking
for a serial input to parallel output convertor that is battery powered.
Does anyone know of any mail order catalogues that carry such a beast.

Robert Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: ballen@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Bruce Allen)
Subject: NewsPrint hangs machine because xnews server not killed 
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:38:43 GMT

The problem is that I can print something once after the machine is
booted.  The second print job hangs the cursor and the only solution is
a reboot.  I can cure this problem only by killing off the following
process, left running after the print job has completed:

20008000   1   147     1  0   1  0 768    0 select       IW   ?   0:06 /loc/newsprint/small_openwin/bin/xnews -cubesize large

I don't know if this xnews process is supposed to terminate or not,
but killing it then ensures that the next print job does not hang the
printer.

My apologies if this is a FAQ.  Please direct answers directly to me
as ballen@dirac.phys.uwm.edu or ballen@convex.csd.uwm.edu .

Thanks,
		Bruce Allen
From: km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Compaq vs HP IIIsi printer
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: km@mathcs.emory.edu
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

I've seen a zillion articles now about the new Compaq printers with
comparisions to the HPIIIsi. However, none of them speak to the two
most important features (to us) in the HPIIIsi.

Does the Compaq support TCP? The HPIIIsi does.

Does the Compaq have a duplex option? The HPIIIsi does.


---
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Dept of Math and CS | km@emory.bitnet              NON-DOMAIN BITNET  
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From: richard@dxcern.cern.ch (Richard Schweitzer)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: FTK RamJet memory expansion board for Laserjet III problem
Keywords: ram,expansion,memory,laser
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:16:25 GMT
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics

I bought a FTK RamJet memory expansion board populated with 2 Mbytes
At power up and after test printout the LaserJet III reports 3 Mbytes of ram.
Now the problem: if I select PAGE PROTECT ON the printer goes to memory config
and shows 53 MEMORY ERROR.
Any explanation are welcome.
Richard Schweitzer    Email: richard@cernvm.cern.ch
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf Paul)
Subject: Re: Q: connecting a postscript printer to the serial port of a sparc
Reply-To: cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf N. Paul)
Organization: Alcatel Austria - Elin Research Center, Vienna
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:17:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.021621.26194@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jiajie Zhang) writes:
>In the file /etc/ttytab, I changed the line
>
>ttya   "/usr/etc/getty std.9600"       unknown         on local secure
>
>TO
>
>ttya    none                            unknown         on local secure

I'm not sure that this is the cause of your problem, but you should
change this to look like this:

ttya   "/usr/etc/getty std.9600"       unknown         off local secure

(i.e. leave the "getty" part alone, but change "on" to "off"). You
also need to kill any getty that might still be running on the port,
and do a "kill -HUP 1" to make init re-read the ttytab file.

And then I would look closely at the "br#" setting in the printcap
entry, to make sure it was identical to the actual setting of the
printer.
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: gilem@aix.rpi.edu (Michael R. Gile)
Subject: qms ps810
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:13:36 GMT


Does anyone have an old scrap ps810, or know of an upgrade
controller board for one.  A friend of mine is fixing one,
and has found that the controller board is dead and qms
prices for a new one are outrageous!

mike

Xref: sparky comp.periphs.printers:2566 comp.sys.hp:10131
From: goss@CS.ColoState.EDU (Mike Goss)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP LJ IIIsi, set duplex mode from PostScript?
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:12:27 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Colorado State University

Anyone know how to set a HP LaserJet IIIsi to duplex mode from a
PostScript file?  We have the HP PostScript installed in the printer,
and none of the manuals that we have seems to cover this.  There is
a procedure called "setduplexmode" in statusdict, but calling it
in the preamble with "true setduplexmode" just causes the job to
end without printing anything.

(Apologies to comp.periphs.printers if this is a FAQ; I don't normally
follow that group, and didn't see an FAQ list in the messages active
at our site.)
-- 
Mike Goss
E-mail: goss@CS.ColoState.EDU   | Hardcopy: Computer Science Department
Phone:  (303)491-7873           |           Colorado State University
Fax:    (303)491-6639           |           Fort Collins, CO 80523
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers