From: mcmillan@vf.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: The christian perspective...?
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:02:25 -0600

In article <1992Sep8.204903.13891@nntp.uoregon.edu>, eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
> For those of you who are christians and also want to make abortion illegal
> in some/most/all cases, on what do you base this position exactly?
> 
> Just curious...
> 
-- 


Whew! Thanks for the opening.  I've been reading this group for a couple of 
weeks now and haven't seen an appropriate place to jump in until now.

I'm a pro-life Christian, but I did a lot of thinking about the topic before
I took my and.  What finally made it clear to me was this:  A man and
woman have created an unborn child but are not sure they want to have a baby or
not.  They vacilate on their decision for 9 nine months, then she goes into
labor.  At that point, still with a "fetus, not a child" in her womb, do they
have the right to have a willing doctor abort the pregnancy?  Except for the
extreme medical emergency case where it comes down to either the mothers or
the baby's life, I could find no times where that almost-born baby could be
rightfully put to death.  Hopefully, most (but not all, I'm sure) will agree
with me on that.


Then I backed it up a day.  The day before that lady goes into labor, doesn't
that baby deserve a chance at life?  I think yes.  Back up a day from there,
keep backing up day by day.  At what day does that baby no longer have a right
to life?  Viability?  There was an article in the paper recently where police
discovered a woman an her baby dead in a trailor.  The woman apparently died of
natural causes.  Her baby, who was somewhere over two years old, couldn't feed
itself and died of starvation.  So I guess viability doesn't start until beyond
age three or so.  How about when the heart starts beating (a few weeks)?  Well,
if you just wait a few minutes, or an hour, or two hours, or a day, the heart 
will start beating, so the fact that it hasn't started beating yet is no reason
to justify it.  I backed it up all the way to two cells--two distinctly human
cells that in just 9 short months will be seen, not viable in that it can't
survive on its own, not any smarter than it was several months ago, just seen.
Then I decided that abortion is wrong.

Choice?  We all have a choice before we have sex.  Do I or don't I, and, if I
do, am I going to take precautions or not?  Am I willing to accept responsibility
if the precautions are not 100% effective (since none of them are)?  So what
happens when the precautions don't work?  Eight years ago my wife accidently 
got pregnant with our third child.  We really couldn't afford it, life was very
pleasant with our other two, I was already maxed out on available time.   
However, due to no fault of its own, this "thing" was created and we had to face
the consequences of our actions, so we didn't kill it.  So now I have a great
little second-grader who loves me unconditionally.  Thank God for our accident!
We live from paycheck to paycheck, but I honestly wouldn't trade that son for
anything.  My wife wants a fourth since the third turned out so well.

Choice?  Abortion is a choice of one or two grown people--the unborn baby is
given no choice.  That little human is literally ripped apart or burned to 
death in a horribly painful procedure.  Imagine having your head torn off!  No
wonder abortion is a bloody procedure.  And remember, approximately 50% of 
those unborn babies killed are girls, future women.  Talk about misosyny!  

There.  I tried to give my reasoning for being pro-life without going into the
Biblical side of it.  If you research it with an open mind, you'll find the 
Bible (therefore God) solidly pro-life.  If you need any help, let me know.


Stokes McMillan 
			
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