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From: Warren.Figueiredo@f6.n3800.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Figueiredo)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Nls In Northern Californi
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:15:54 GMT
Reply-To: Warren.Figueiredo@f6.n3800.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3800/6 - CompuChurch (tm) IH, Baton Rouge LA

Index Number: 21086

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I have the luxury of living in walking distance from our network library
so most of the time I just bop on over, browse the shelves and pick out
the books I need. However I do send the library lists from time to time.
I clearly indicate that I want series sent together and if all books are
not available at that time, hold the order until they are available.
Ever since then, it's worked like a charm. Since I have a standard book
order letter on my hard disk, it's easy to prepare a request in
no time. I also have a record of the books that I have requested so that
I keep track of what the library has sent.

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From: Rick.Alfaro@f8.n369.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Alfaro)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: QUESTIONAIR
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:38:30 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Alfaro@f8.n369.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:369/8 - The Catwalk BBS, Davie FL

Index Number: 20973

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

tHIS QUESTIONAIR IS FROM A STUDENT OF MINE WHO IS COMPLETING HER MASTERS.  sHE
 ASKED ME TO PLEASE POST THIS FOR HER SO THAT THOSE THAT WERE ABLE TO DO SO
 WOULD COMPLETE IT AND EITHER MAIL HER THE ANSWERS VIA u.s. mAIL, OR VIA
 NETMAIL HERE TO MY FIDO ADDRESS.  iF YOU WILL BE USING NETMAIL, YOU CAN SEND
 TO mARY iRVING AT 1:369/8.  tHANKS FOR YOUR INDULGANCE...

                           BLINK ALERT

I am doing a master's thesis and need the help of blind computer
users.  Please complete this questionair and mail it to me or put
it on E-mail.  Thank you for your help. I really do appreciate it.

1. age (fill in the appropriate letter here)
     a. under 20  b. 20 to 29  c. 30 to 39  d. 40 to 49  e. 50 to
     59 f.  60 to 69  g. 70 and older

2. Please  indicate f for female or m for male
3. State
4. City or County
5. Do you use a computer in your job or profession?
6. Is or was learning to use a computer part of your formal
education?
If not, please explain how and where you learned to use computers.
7. Does your community make computer literacy
available to blind and visually impaired persons,  e.g. in
libraries, adult education classes, or any other facility? Please
answer yes or no and explain any yes answer.

8. Please  indicate the things you are able to do with the use of
a computer which you, as a visually impaired person, would not be
able to do without sighted help.  If applicable please explain how
you have become more efficient and independent.

Mary Irving, 680 Lawrence rd. Delray Beach, FL 33445
On Internet or Telnet IN%"IRVING@FAUVAX.BITNET"<IRVING@ACC.FAU.EDU>
Compuserve 76456,1334

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From: n9141932@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Doug Auerbach)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Treatment for dyslexia?
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:25:16 GMT
Reply-To: n9141932@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Doug Auerbach)
Organization: Western Washington University

Index Number: 20817

My ten-year-old housemate apparently has dyslexia.  Is there any known
treatment, counseling, or special education for this disorder?

Any information would really be appreciated.  Thanks.

=============================================================================
 Doug Auerbach   Western Washington University  : "If you don't like the
 Student Representative, Computer Policy Board  |  games people play,
 n9141932@henson.cc.wwu.edu                     :  make up your own games."
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From: David.Bond@p0.f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org (David Bond)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: To tell, or not to tell...
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:28:31 GMT
Reply-To: David.Bond@p0.f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/810.0 - Electronic Library, Denver CO

Index Number: 21153

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

To tell, or not to tell....or more accurately...when to tell or
when not to tell, that is the question.

O.K. fellow Blink Talkians, I would like some feed-back as to whether, or
more like, when I sshould tell prospective clients that I am blind.  Here is
what I am pursuing at the moment. <smile>
I have been working on a plan to mail outt post cards to local businesses
advertising my services to do computer training, specifically I am going
after Word Perfect business as my feeling is that a greater percentage of
businesses use it, and most of the people (well, maybe not most) don't
really know even how to do things like mail merging that would be so helpful
to them.  Anyway, I have been working on a slick little (very little)
"attention getter" that hopefully will land on enough persons desks that
will be interested in seeking some training.  I plan to send out anywhere
from 50 to 100 post cards to businesses that I will selectively choose based
on the kind of business that will potentially have need of my services like
doctor's and other professional small businesses.

Oh, here's the question again.  Assuming that I will get a few potential
clients which will at first be an initial phone call, do I mention at some
point that "Oh, by the way, I am blind..", or do I just sshow up and make a
grand entrance?

Well, I figure that I will probably get a mixed bag of opinions from you
all, but I would really appreciate some thoughtful ideas.  I have an idea of
what I should do, but I want to see what you think.

Thanks a lot.

Dave

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From: dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Electric cars
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:35:13 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 21211

I would agree about the low pitch needed and this brings up another
factor, normally whistles will be louder with more air through them
than with less unless they're designed so that past a certain speed
they simply don't blow at all.  This won't be good since sooner or
later sighted people will start getting run down but then again
maybe that'll get enough pressure going to finally deal with all of
these related problems.  Minorities are functionally expendible in
the U.S.A.  but start offing the majority then things happen.
Please note the word functionally since using it more often helps
provide better explanations for alot of what goes on.

Jude
From: Joel.Lefkowitz@f54.n135.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Lefkowitz)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Chronic pain
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:57:04 GMT
Reply-To: Joel.Lefkowitz@f54.n135.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:135/54 - Ramblin' Roots, Miami FL

Index Number: 20849

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Glenn, I have found that the tens unit helps to mask the pain. I
have found that it works differently depending on where my pain is.
Before I went to an accupuncturist, I had pain in all my joints and
my back. I also had severe pain in my abdomen from adhesions. The
tens unit helped to alleviate the pain in my back but not in my
abdomen. When I later tried accupuncture, the pain in my back and
all my joints have totally disappeared but the pain in my abdomen
remains.

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From: rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu (Ray Kopp)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Autism/Facilitation
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:57:34 GMT
Reply-To: rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu (Ray Kopp)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
X-Fidonet: None

Index Number: 21011

I mentioned that I supported the idea of an autism newsgroup and I
would like to further that, that anyone particularily
Brade_Kathleen, that wishes to share ideas, thoughts etc feel free
to email me.

I am a parent of an autistic child and still trying to find out as
much as possible about what being autistic means to people
themselves and how families handle certain things involved with
it.

Maybe I'll even see what it takes to start a news group and make a formal
proposal for one.

Thanks,
Ray Kopp
rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu
Syracuse, New York

P.S.  For anyone on Bitnet rather than Internet that may see this you
can also email me at rjkopp@SUVM.bitnet or whatever the bitnet format is.
From: Keith.Jones@p13.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Drugs for spasticity
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:50:21 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Jones@p13.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/15.13 - St Joes Hospital, Phoenix AZ

Index Number: 21220

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 AS> > AS> > I am a quad/paraplegic with
 AS> > AS> > terrible muscle spasms quite unlike and much worse
 AS> > AS> > than any back spasms
 AS> > AS> > I have ever had. Presently the medical establishment has
 AS> > AS> > ONLY 3 drugs for treating them: Lioresal, Valium and Dantrium.
 AS> > AS>
 AS> > AS> I don't think this is correct.  There are other drugs that
 AS> > AS> are used for treating muscle spasms
 AS>
 AS> > Unfortunately, this is 100% correct. Ask any spinal cord injury doctor.
 AS> > I have been to numerous doctors who specialize in spinal cord injuries
 AS> > and the only repertoire they have dispensable to them to alleviate
 AS> > spasticity is those drugs I have mentioned.
 AS>
 AS> I stand by my prior comment; stating that these 3 drugs
 AS> are the only ones available is just not correct.  Another
 AS> drug which quickly comes to mind and is used for treating
 AS> muscle spastisity associated with spinal cord injury is
 AS> Baclofen.

 Sorry, Arthur. Baclofen IS Lioresal and I am up to date on the most
 current research data available and up to this point in time NO other
 drugs exist which show any promise of relieving spasticity.

                       -Keith-

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From: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: doggie news
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:16:50 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/56 - The Overworked Drag, Portland OR

Index Number: 21090

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

BB>  Carol, the week prior to reading your post I had visited with a two
BB>  guide dog family that was having problems on occasion with the newest
BB>  dog relieving himself in the house.  As you stated, it certainly

Not a nice situation.  The school I go to recommends keeping a new dog on
leash or tie-down at first for about three weeks, or more if necessary, and
taking it out on a definite schedule.  This can help with relieving
problems.  A more frequent schedule can be necessary if there is a real
problem.  I really feel sorry for new dogs, there is so much pressure on
them at first.  Just think about it:  their lives have been turned upside
down so many times!

Carol

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From: covici@ccs.covici.com (John Covici)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Wilder To Sign Most Advan
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:25:58 GMT
Reply-To: covici@ccs.covici.com (John Covici)
Organization: Covici Computer Systems
X-Fidonet: Ablenews Conference

Index Number: 20935

Chris.Gunn@f1008.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Gunn FidoNet node
1:202/1008 - BIZynet BBS, San Diego CA) once wrote....
|Index Number: 20824
|
|JC> ....     Mr. Wilder is expected to
|JC> sign a bill that would allow the
|JC> outright murder of mentally and
|JC> physically handicapped individuals,
|JC> including wards of the state, by the
|JC> same doctors, guardians, and committees
|JC> who are charged with protecting them.
|
|Interesting shift in wording to change the reaction to the law.  There's a
|big difference between "physically handicapped" and 'totally physically
|unresponsive' the law actually deals with.  Equating it with Hitler's
|attempt to eliminate all 'defective' persons from the German race as an
|emotional tactic to block passage of the law I find very unprofessional
|for a reporter.

That's how Hitler's program did start -- very narrow then the
criteria kept broadening.

|
|I feel it's extremely cruel to force continued pain on someone who can't
|even express how much pain they are enduring and has no chance of recovery.

I can never figure out how supporters of this type of legislation can
say "no chance".  How dare you deprive those people of what life they
have!

|
|As there is in any law or license to practice, there are opportunities for
|abuse.  I would be interested in knowing what provisions are written into
|the law for dealing with those individuals that would apply the law to
|those still able to communicate their own choices.

Happened already in other States -- that's just the problem.

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newsgroup.

         John Covici
          covici@ccs.covici.com
From: Charles.Crawford@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Charles Crawford)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Section 508: War story time!
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:31:36 GMT
Reply-To: Charles.Crawford@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/460.0 - VI/BUG, Holbrook MA

Index Number: 21169

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

[Note from Bill McGarry -- I will get this file and either post
 it here or make it available.]

Hi Everyone,

  Well it's finally done! A proposed section 508 to the Rehab Act
has been sent up to Congress and now needs to gain some support
from folks who may agree with it. I've copied a file to the VIBUG
BBS called "sec508.zip" and will ask Don to send it on down the
line.

  If you've encountered situations where you've lost opportunities
or God forbid, your job because of federal procurements or even
regular state or private sector buying of inaccessible equipment,
then let me know. I will compile the war stories in a file and
submit them to the Congress without identifying who you are unless
you say it's ok.

  Here's our chance to really start to make office equipment
accessible from the start versus always trying to catch up and
catching more hell for it.

  Thanks and please respond quickly! time is short as the Congress
will act in the next month or so.

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From: John.Sanfilippo@p0.f102.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (John Sanfilippo)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Blind fold the sighted
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:00:29 GMT
Reply-To: John.Sanfilippo@p0.f102.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/102.0 - The Event Horizon, Bay Ridge NY

Index Number: 20995

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 > Blindness is a problem that is difficult to detect, ...

 SM> And that's where you're dead, dead wrong.  The way you stand, the way
 SM> you hold yourself, the way you address someone speaking to you--hell,
 SM> man, the way you handle a knife and fork!--is a dead, dead giveaway

I agree with you, but i also believe that there are at least a
few people who "carry" themselves so well that one is
hardpressed to tell that they are blind. I believe SOME people
do have this characteristic (I aint one of 'em, and i see a
bit).

... Everything seems harder to get into these days but trouble.

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From: Mark.Senk@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Senk)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Sight-impaired technologies
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:35:40 GMT
Reply-To: Mark.Senk@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 20947

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I have heard that the deaf relay service near Philadelphia
(possibly Bell of PA) is employing blind operators who read the TDD
output on a braille display.  I heard this from the HumanWare
vendor so you might contact that company.

					Mark

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From: Linda.Cummings@f34.n375.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Cummings)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Birmingham Pain Clinic Visit #5
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:51:27 GMT
Reply-To: Linda.Cummings@f34.n375.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:375/34 - Batteries Included , Montgomery AL

Index Number: 21034

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Biogenics Program

Place yourself in a comfortable position.  Uncross your arms and
legs.  Close you eyes.

Take a deep breath in and out slowly (*very slowly*).

Repeat the following phrases slowly, five times each with a slow deep breath:

BREATHE IN                  BREATHE OUT
----------                  -----------

A.  I am....................... relaxed.

B.  My arms and legs........... are heavy and warm.

C.  My heartbeat............... is calm and regular.

D.  My breathing............... is free and easy.

E.  My abdomen................. is warm.

F.  My forehead................ is cool.

G.  My mind.................... is quiet and still.

The above was given to us for help in relaxation at the Birmingham Pain Clinic.

Linda

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From: Al.Hoffman@f143.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Al Hoffman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: C programming
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:17:05 GMT
Reply-To: Al.Hoffman@f143.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/143 - DARKNESS III, Falls Church VA

Index Number: 21091

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Brenda:

If you aren't familiar with it yet you may want to start reading
the C-programming conference available on your local FidoNet
system, such as the Keeping Room.  The C-echo is a good source of
hand-holding and basic startup information on programming in C, as
well as more subtle and difficult subjects of programming in C.  I
wouldn't take the Richie book as all you can get, the disk manuals
from Borland are great sources of information, as well as Learn C
Now, Proficient C, and more available on disk from Computer Books
for the Blind, Recording for the Blind.  You can use the Richie
book, but its very dense and is not always related to the real
world, its sort of the theoretical underpinnings of C, while
sometimes you will want the nuts and bolts explained in a more
direct or verbose fashion.  Good luck.

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Jailhouse blinks
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:39:10 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA

Index Number: 20974

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to Stew Bowden <18 Mar 92 03:57> Steve Matzura wrote:

 >> Steve: whatr is your position regarding
 >> blind persons convicted of
 >> criminal offenses? It seems to me that
 >> regardless of circumstance,
 >> the blind in this regard should be
 >> treated no differently from others

 SM> You're absolutely correct, I agree one thousand percent.
 SM> Visual acuity has no relationship to civil rights--that is,
 SM> if you don't have any of the former, it doesn't mean you
 SM> shouldn't have any of the latter.

 SM> Steve Matzura

Right on, Steve.  Nor does it mean that just because you haven't the
former implies that you shouldn't lose the latter should you commit an
offense that would result in a deprivation of rights were you not blind.
We agree.

Incidentally, one of the first blind people I can remember meeting
rented an apartment from my grandmother.  I don't remember what he was
doing for a living at the time but he was later convicted (and served
time) for bombing a department store.  Blind people are normal (or
abnormal) in the same way as everyone else.

Incidentally, har har, he was a good role model -- he carried a cane and
used it!

-Mike-
... *The National Federation of the Blind is changing what it means to be blind.*
___
 * CRR QWK 1.40 *

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From: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Survey
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:33:36 GMT
Reply-To: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 20883

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 SM> 1.  Who trained or taught you how to pour liquids--in
 SM> particular, hot liquids, like tea, coffee, etc.--from one
 SM> vessel (say, a coffeepot or teakettle) to another (say, a cup)?

Mary Cecilia Fitzgerald Wilson

 SM> 2.  What was the methodology used in your instruction (i.e.,
 SM> pour by weight, pour by sound, pour by estimation, use your
 SM> finger, etc.)?

Use of the then functioning peepers.

 SM> 3.  Did you stick with that training or instruction afterward,
 SM> or did you simply adhere to the taught techniques to get your
 SM> instructor off your back, then you went off and did what you
 SM> pleased?

Stuck with that method till the peepers stopped working.

 SM> 4.  What method are you using now?

If it's a quiet environment, I try listening to the sound and judging
when the liquid is near the top of the receiving vessel, if the
surroundings are noisy and I'm not by myself, I use a time/flow estimate
to varying degrees of success, and if I'm by myself, a pinky over the
edge is sometimes employed.

 SM> Thanks for any and all replies.  My girlfriend, a rehab
 SM> teacher, wants to know the answers to these questions in order
 SM> to understand a little better how things are with rehab
 SM> agencies these days vs. how they were in the past.

And although I have no idea how rehab agencies are dealing with this now
adays, I thought the fact they believed what I realized was a quite
logical, naturally obtained solution to a problem needed to be taught
ludicrous!

     Of course, the Greater Pittsburgh Guild for the Blind also gave me
instruction on brushing my teeth, taking a shower, making my bed,
shaving my face, slicing my baked potato, dialing my phone, etc., so I
guess I shouldn't be surprised that higher level courses like liquid
pouring would be included in their rehab program!

     Seriously, I don't really mean to sound THAT sarcastic, and I
suppose there are cases where things like this need to be taught, but I
honestly feel that in many cases rehab organizations spend alot of time
teaching things that simply seldomly need to be taught!
                                                        Willie

... Like a bat out of Bellevue!

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