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From: dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith)
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Subject: Re: Nov. 22, 1963
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:16:14 GMT
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> I realize how this list was overrun by the oldest people in the world.
...
> people in their seventies and eighties.
>
Yes, and you know that you must respect your elders, so would you mind
writing a bit larger?
Doris
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Date: 6 Nov 92 00:05:23 GMT
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>
> Say, is it my imagination or is there a correlation between excessively
> zealous Christianity and Republicanism?  If there is, why should that be?
> Do you think it might be genetic?
>
> G

Yes, I don't think so, and no.
ndh
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From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: When gods die
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Posted by Graham Toal

>Thanks for an interesting posting.  I enjoyed it.  btw, are you from that
>part of the world yourself?

No, but I left part of me there. (Judith, is there a *maudlin* smiley?) b.c.
From: amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU (Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik)
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Subject: Re: Nosferatu
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:36:34 GMT
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On Wed, 11 Nov 1992, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>   I felt the same way about Interview, but went on to read Lestat.  It's
> a better book, and the character of Lestat is much more interesting than
> that of Louis.

Well, _Interview_ did contain one scene that scared me pissless, but I
definitely agree that _Lestat_ is a better book.  And it's better than
_The Queen of the Damned_ too, although that's not bad.

Have you read _The Tale of the Body Thief_ yet?  No threats of apocalypse,
no multiple viewpoints -- just Lestat, the James Bond of vampires, in a
really great story (one that I read in less than 24 hours).

I guess you can tell I'm a fan... I've read all of her books:  vampires,
witches, mummies, castrati, gens de couleur libre, and even all her dirty
books for grownups.  I've been a fan so long that my books of hers written
under the psuedonyms don't say "Anne Rice writing as..." on the cover.

(The next book I started after _Thief_ was _In Search of Our Mothers'
Gardens_, a collection of essays by Alice Walker.  Talk about contrast!)

But any road, I enjoy reading Anne Rice's books, and unlike, say, Mercedes
Lackey's books, they don't make me feel guilty.

> Evelyn

--Susan
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: The Married Man is back
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:27:33 GMT


	Congrats!  

-- 
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*** Resending note of 11/09/92 15:33
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>

>(This isn't a continuation of the flame war.  I did say I would stop.
>It's just that I'm worried for Ruth's soul and I want to put her
>back on the path of righteousness.)

Come on Graham, anyone can quote Bible text out of context.  Would you
also be a handler of snakes, and not worry if one bit you?
Why don't you let go of this thread ....please?
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      This better be good
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Bought two books last night, one was the long-on-order Mondo 2000
compilation, and the other was Camille Paglia's _Sex, Art, and American
Culture_. Never heard of her before reading the list last week. I gotta
get out more.

-abh
From: tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
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>:                  O  O    O        O   O O      OOO
>:                  O   O   O        O    OO      OOO
>:                  O    O  OOOOOOO  O     O
>:                                                ooo
>:                                                ooo
>
>Huh?  No, it's just North America that's changed sides.
>
>G

Toal, this self-centeredness is getting out of hand. It's time to expose
you to the hard facts of life.

1 No one remembers anyone's little jokes. Ergo, they don't remember
  yours. A fortiori, they don't remember something that isn't even
  funny.

2 It might surprise you to know this, but the whole world is sick
  and bored of hacker jargon. Newly invented hacker jargon is never
  novel and rarely clever. And here we are talking about entertainment
  value and memorability.

3 Jargon files are above purity tests in the loser literature rankings.
  People who keep and contribute to it constitute approximately half a
  nanopercent of the net population. 98 percent of those are freshmen.

4 Trying to assign a fixed lame meaning to phrases such as "doing a Ken"
  is sphexishness of the worst sort.

5 Words like "kenturn" are nowadays generated by trivial algorithms. Ergo
  the same feat done worse by a human is not considered memorable.

Remaining facts of life will be presented after I feel you have had enough
time to chew on these.

tushar
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:29:36 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Word query: liminality
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: I'm stuck on the word _liminality_, which occurs near the end of

I think it's just plain the wrong word.  Liminal just doesn't fit
the context.  Maybe they meant something based on limn?

G
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:02:54 EST
From:         Frank <ST403231@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: amendment 2
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>From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
>
>discrimination and the thin end of a wedge. Btw can someone explain to
>me why it's Christians who are spearheading all this bigotry when they're
>supposed to be the ones who'll love *everybody*?  (Stap my vitals, and
>turn the other blindcheek, that's what I say...)
Graham, how many attempts does this make it on your part to flush
a few fundies out of the virtual woodwork so you can play with
thier heads?  You are relentless, sir.  And, in case you haven't
noticed, it doesn't really work on Words-l.  Sheesh.

Love to you, big guy.

Frank, who is glad no one has tried to put anything like that on the
ballot in New England.  (What is it about these western states?  I
thought they were supposed to be all laid-back and tolerant out there,
unlike us uptight Easterners.)
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All those beseeching "Where is my Words-L" messages some of us disconnected
people sent yesterday and today:  are they truly gone, or will they come
back to haunt us?

brad
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:00:14 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: HELLO!

>
>> > --ggs (still bored with most of what is going on.  Somebody
>> > <stimulate> me, please)
>>
>> Ooof! <tickle, tickle>
>> That's about all I can offer...
>>
>> -abh
>
>Oooooo, thanks, annie.... that did the <trick>.
>--ggs (<quicker> than gt....)


Oh, that's all it takes, then. How come you were ever bored?

tushar
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Subject:      Re: Liminality and the Ga
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Posted on 12 Nov 1992 at 23:19:36 by RKESSLER@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
>the article is in plainer English (except for those chiefly stools).
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This continues to amuse me!  Am I the only one who does *not* think
of something to sit on when they read this????

Karen
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From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@MOTE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: another lame unix question
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Brad Grissom asks:
>> I don't know the answer to that one, but have an even lamer question:
>> why are some of us (i.e., me) still unable to post directly to Words-l?

How did you your message get to the list?  It is not obvious from your
posting that it came via abnormal channels -- maybe that is because
everything we see comes out of uga.cc.uga.edu -- what are you having to do?

Joan (jboor@cs.umb.edu)
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Gleanings (67)
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:15:15 GMT


> 5) Amerkican Trail/Gibson/Sprawl concept (Rita R.)

	American Tail is an animated film that tells a Disneyfied
version of the late 19th century, early 20th immigrant experience.
The protagonists are cute little mice, and the blue meanies are cats
(the central "myth" that must be shattered once they arrive is "there
are no cats in America").  OK as animated films go, but not as good as
some.

	William Gibson wrote "Neuromancer", which is considered to be
the premier novel of the cyberpunk genre.  His fictional world of the
future includes something called "The Sprawl", which is basically the
entire Eastern Seaboard of the United States becoming like New York
City or Tokyo.

>15) ROFLMAO! (Rita R.)

	Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.


>22) Bruce Fancher (Rita R.)

	When did I mention Bruce?  Anyways, he's a former member of
that nefarious hacking clique, the Legion of Doom.  His handle is Dead
Lord, and he's running a BBS with Internet access in NYC right now
called Mindvox.  Bruce happens to *not* look like a geek, having been
raised in plush, penthouse surroundings due to his Dad having
something to do with the Village Voice.  He looks a bit like Andy
Garcia, actually.





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From: samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
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Date: 12 Nov 92 01:41:34 GMT
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>Ruth, that was the favourite word of most of us before the advent of
>'supercalifragilisticexpialodocious' - it used to be the longest word in
>the English language and was learnt by all precocious primary school children
>(in this country, anyway).
>
>It was considered quite a feat to be able to use it appropriately in a
>conversation and was a means of gaining instant adulation. :-)

Gosh, these old people did get impressed by some pretty weak-minded stuff,
didn't they?

tushar
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From:         "(Alec D. Plotkin)" <185422285@UCIS.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nov. 22, 1963
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>	Having a President my junior wouldn't be as disconcerting as would
>	having no baseball players older than I am -- all hail Nolan Ryan,
>	Carlton Fisk, and Charlie Hough!

Amen, Brother Neal, We should start a religion called baseball. Our
creed should be :" We believe" Or "It's a 'burgh thing".

Our Bible should be the words of Bart Giamatti (sp)
It breaks your heart.  It is designed to break your heart.  The game
game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it
blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then
as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the
fall alone.  You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time,
to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when
the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
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From:         "Tony @ Brownvm" <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Clinton's 'Mandate'
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Posted on 5 Nov 1992 at 23:30:20 by (Ruth M. Hanschka)

>Just one question Graham, what's "excessively zealous" Christianity?  If you
>mean rule-bound anal-retentives, no - the Democrats have plenty of those
>too.  The vociferous Orel Robertsians have sided with Republicans lately
>because they Republicans took their PAC money.:-)
>
>>Do you think it might be genetic?
>I doubt it, not unless excessively overboard atheism and agnosticism are too.

Hmmm... that leaves us skeptics nicely balanced in the middle as always.

Tony H.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:05:19 CST
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Stuffed Bunny in Wreck

>Part of the caption under a picture of a car wreck in today's Starkville
>paper says, "A large stuffed bunny was discovered in one of the vehicles --
>safely strapped in by a seatbelt."  What I'm trying to figure out is whether
>the main point is that people who have stuffed bunnies as passengers are
>likely to have wrecks or stuffed bunnies who wear seatbelts don't get hurt
>in wrecks.

These things just happen. They are only being reported. There is no "main
point" to it. If you were poking around in a wreck and saw such a thing
you'd want to tell it to someone. You'd think it's pretty silly if someone
asked what your main point was.

tushar
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Date: 11 Nov 92 09:40:57
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In-reply-to: "Natalie Maynor"'s message of Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:17:19 CST

Natalie:

   The only places I wear hose (that's stockings for you yankees) in the
 

Holdernute...stockings go with garters, hose are the whole
kit-n-caboodle...

//anne, this is not a 'north-south' issue ;)//
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From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Nov. 22, 1963
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Again with this....

>	I saw Ruby kill Oswald.  I saw every moment of the funeral.  The next
>	weekend was Thanksgiving, and we went to visit relatives in Chevy Chase
>	for the holiday.  We all stood in line for hours to file past the grave
>	in Arlington National Cemetery -- freshly-turned dirt, a temporary
>	gasline for the flame over it.  I've never gone back to the gravesite.
>
>[yes, Natalie, we did this last year or the year before]

HA!  Yes....  How many times did Aeneas have to recount the fall of
Troy after he told Dido?....

By Sunday, everyone was numb.  I met my friend Richie, who has since
become Bob Abrams' deputy press secretary, and we went walking around
Pelham Parkway.  Somebody came out of a bar and said "You hear about
it?  This guy just shot that guy Oswald in jail on television!  He's
dead!"  I think that was more depressing than Kennedy himself because
I just knew we'd never find out the truth.  I doubt that we have.

The Robert Kennedy assassination was even worse.  My wife still can't
talk about it (she was a Kennedy campaign worker in 1968), and I can't
watch a victory speech (thinking of Clinton's the other night) without
hearing Bobby in the Ambassador ballroom shouting "It's on to Chicago,
and let's win there."  Same shivers every time....

Ken
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:06:00 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: amendment 2
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: <sigh> And still with the name calling?  That statement above is very close

At least I said it in private.  Thanks for cc'ing words-l with the reply -
I was getting tired of all the private mail on this subject anyway.  Anyone
else cares to criticise do it in public where a rebuttal won't be wasted.

G
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From:         Rebecca S Altes <rsast11+@PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: subscription

      my question is simply why he didn't just subscribe?
      i wish i'd subscribed earlier.  now i'm just reading
      nine thousand kinda interesting back messages and making
      random replies to confuse people.

      speaking of which, i miss my dog.  if any one on here is
      in d.c., go to adams morgan, the bottom half of rock creek
      park, and if it's the right time of day, you'll probably
      see my dog and all of the ones i walk.  tell 'em bekka
      said hi
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 9 Nov 92 16:47:56 GMT
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l.o.l. = "Little Old Lady" -- the phrase is usually continued, "in 
tennis shoes" to connote eccentricity by deprecating the abandonment
of stylish shoes and the surrender to comfort and practicality.  Some
of the sting has been lost nowadays from this second part of the phrase,
since the fitness craze has taken over.

--bayla
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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> I like it; I say keep it.
>
> Karen

I haven't seen it, but I say keep it.
BTW abh, I say keep the beard, when you get used to it it won't tickle so
much. Or so I've been told by *those who have one.*
Doris
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Posted on 4 Nov 1992 at 23:15:51 by Alec D. Plotkin
>I need help on a word please, When MORMONS go away for a year to

Mormons go on two year missions.

Karen
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>> And I thought Aaron left.......
>
>He did, but I still consider the Aaronology postings as the high-water
>mark for hostility in here.

You're too sanguine.  The Aaron episode was distasteful.  The
Project H mess was worse.  This weekend is the worst of all.  Consider
that the cast of characters also overlaps.

Ken
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Democrats and Me
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              5 Nov 1992 05:08:23 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:08:23 CST Natalie Maynor said:
>I heard that he gained weight during the campaign.  That struck me as odd.
>I would have thought that weight loss would be more likely when living
>under that kind of pressure with that kind of hectic daily schedule.  I
>wonder what he was eating.

Well, as one who eats under stress and strain, I can imagine that the
stresses of the campaign would encourage eating....and since most of us
have "comfort foods" that tend to be high in calories, sugar, fats, etc...
and since presumably candidates, like presidents can order whatever they
damn well feel like to eat....coolidge doesn't surprise me at all....or
taft.....

dan
From: PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Judith E. Schrier)
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Date: 12 Nov 92 03:09:17 GMT
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>>What I've heard is "non-observant" Jews. Which seems kind of
>>wishy-washy. "Lapsed" sounds more like they *mean* it!
>
>There is also the curious term "self hating Jew", which is reserved
>for use by Jews of other Jews who criticise policies or actions
>of Israel.

Not reserved for them. There are those, such as my poor late
Mama, who was not happy about being Jewish, who hated the
strictures placed on her by her orthodox parents and other
relatives, but who could not release herself from them.

> Oddly there don't seem to be "self hating Catholics"
>or "self hating Mormons" in the same sense, perhaps because Jews
>can't be drummed out (and therefore become non Jews) the way
>the Catholics, Mormons, etc. can.

Story about the Jew who converted to being a Baptist. A year
later, he converted to Catholicism. Asked why, he said, "So
when they ask me what I was before I was Catholic, I can say,
'Baptist'."

You not only can't be drummed out, you can't quit.

>Tony H.
>(lapsed atheist)
judith
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              7 Nov 1992 17:09:21 EST from <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

Let me clarify this post.  The first part:

>A letter writer to the campus newspaper this week signed (her?)self:
>
>        Ebonique

simply reports an occurrence of a given name that I found interesting.
The second part:

>Wonder if this will get through....
>
>brad
>UUCP Corps

expresses frustration at my inability to post to the list because
of the UUCP error messages from AT&T.
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