From: matthew@ntl02.uk.tele.nokia.fi (Matthew Faupel)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.usage.english,misc.writing,rec.games.trivia,rec.puzzles,soc.culture.british
Subject: 4th CFV and VOTE ACK:  rec.puzzles.crosswords
Followup-To: poster
Date: 15 Apr 1992 12:22:10 -0400
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications, Cambridge, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.UU.NET

This is a repeat posting of the call for votes for rec.puzzles.crosswords
plus an acknowledgement of all those people I have received votes from as
of 18.30 BST 13th April 92.

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CALL FOR VOTES TO CREATE NEWSGROUP
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NAME: 
          rec.puzzles.crosswords

STATUS:
          unmoderated


DESCRIPTION:

	  Forum for discussion of grid-based word puzzles


CHARTER:

          To provide a forum for the submission of articles dealing with
word puzzles such as crosswords, acrostics and word-searches.  Any puzzle
which involves determining words arranged in a gridlike structure and in
which there is no opponent (except perhaps the setter of the puzzle :-) is
included within the coverage of this group.

Posts of the following types are expected:

o  Complete puzzles to be solved by the readers
o  Computer programs for generating (solving?!) such puzzles
o  Details on how to go about creating your own puzzles
o  Individual favourite clues
o  Requests for help in solving and/or explaining cryptic clues
o  Explanations of how to solve cryptic crosswords in general
o  Sources for puzzles in your area of the world
o  Discussion of cryptic conventions, etc.

though this is not intended to be an exhaustive list.

The language used in the postings to the group is left up to the poster, but
they should bear in mind the target audience they are trying to reach and
what languages they are likely to understand.  The puzzles themselves can be
in any language(s) the poster desires.

VOTES:

ONLY VOTES RECEIVED BY APRIL 19, 23:59 GMT+0100 (i.e. British Summer Time)
WILL BE COUNTED

TO VOTE YES: send mail to matthew@uk.tele.nokia.fi with the words "YES" and
"rec.puzzles.crosswords" in the subject line and/or the message body.

TO VOTE NO: send mail to matthew@uk.tele.nokia.fi with the words "NO" and
"rec.puzzles.crosswords" in the subject line and/or the message body.

If you have problems mailing to uk.tele.nokia.fi (the uk at the beginning
has been known to cause problems for some old mail systems) then an 
acceptable alternative address to send to is matthew@ntl02.decnet.nokia.fi
which is an alias for the same destination.

Only votes mailed to the above addresses will be counted.  Ambiguous votes
or votes with qualifications ("I would vote yes for rec.puzzles.crosswords
provided that...") will not be counted.  In the case of multiple votes from
a given person, only the last will be counted.

It will be noted that I am acting both as the proposer and vote-taker for
this group.  There has been a certain amount of acrimonious discussion in
news.groups on this topic recently, so to avoid all possibility of
accusation of bias I hereby give notice that until the end of the voting
period I will not engage in any discussion of rec.puzzles.crosswords that
requires me to express my opinions, nor will I send any mail campaigning
for votes to be sent other than the periodic repetitions of this post that
will be sent during the voting period.

This Call For Votes, along with acknowledgements of votes received will 
be posted several times throughout the voting period.

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Votes received regarding the creation of rec.puzzles.crosswords as of
18.30 BST, Monday 13th of April (sorted by username).

6sceng!blm@relay.EU.net (Brian Matthews)
A.M.Braithwaite@loughborough.ac.uk (Angela Braithwaite)
aardvark@devnet.la.locus.com (Warren Usui)
adk@ds2.scri.fsu.edu (Tony Kennedy)
aem@paris-gw.cs.miami.edu (a.e.mossberg)
amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis)
amdcad!osc!jgk@uunet.UU.NET (Joe Keane)
anant@watson.ibm.com (Anant Jhingran)
anasaz!misty.morris@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard)
aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Ralph)
arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
aristo@techunix.technion.ac.il (Noam Paz)
arnej@lise.unit.no (Arne Henrik Juul)
arromdee@blaze.cs.jhu.edu
asharpe@sco.COM (Andrew Sharpe)
asimov@nas.nasa.gov (Daniel A. Asimov)
ATCCP%ASUACAD.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi (Clark)
awerling@NMSU.Edu
AXD7104@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU (AARON DICKEY, JUPITER UNIVERSITY)
balaji@nexus.yorku.ca (V. Balaji)
bas@phys.uva.nl (Bas de Bakker)
bergeron@cs.utexas.edu (James D. Bergeron)
bharat%sw.mcc.com@mcc.com (Bharat Mitbander)
bi299aq@sdcc14.UCSD.EDU (Phyllis Pugh)
bm2w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Beth A. Meiser)
botteron@bu-it.BU.EDU
brader@cs.su.oz.au (Michael Brader)
brendan@cs.widener.edu (Brendan Kehoe)
brent@limabean.veggard.mn.org (Brent J. Nordquist)
breuker%CS.RULIMBURG.NL@FINHUTC.hut.fi
bryan@netcom.com (Bryan Higgins)
bufalini@gis.psu.edu (Steely Dan)
cadesjar@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Curtis Desjardins)
carlos@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Carlos Borges)
carlton@husc.harvard.edu (david carlton)
cathy@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Cathy Smither)
CBTCC%CUNYVM.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi
cdfk@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Caroline Knight)
cdr@kpc.com (Carl Rigney)
cec35848@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck Carroll)
ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas)
celia@ssc-bee.boeing.com (Celia H Modell)
cfeem@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Eleanor Midkiff)
CHALCRAFT@uk.tele.nokia.fi
chrise@hpsrcje.sr.hp.com (Chris Eich)
clicquot!ntg.com!slandrum@uu.psi.com (Stephen H. Landrum)
connors@druco.att.com
conradv@eng.clemson.edu (Conrad Vincent)
cranston@Cadence.COM (W. Scott Cranston)
crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
D.T.Shield@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk
dasmah@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Srinandan Dasmahapatra)
David.A.Chapin@Dartmouth.EDU
daweuste@mailbox.syr.edu (david a. weuste)
dbrooks@osf.org
DEEDS@HAL.hac.com
dje@osc.edu
djg@genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
djoyce@black.clarku.edu (Dave Joyce)
DJWEISBERGER@amherst.edu (Davebo!)
DOUBLED@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU
draitt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Raitt)
DRUSSO@umiami.IR.Miami.EDU
dsmith@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au (David Smith)
dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate)
durrell@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Cyberpixie)
dwillar@hubcap.clemson.edu (David Willard)
elkies@math.harvard.edu (Noam Elkies)
ENGJS@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (James Smith)
evan@mustang (Evan L. Marcus [Fusion Systems Group, Ltd.])
farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
forbes@icbm.att.com (Michael S Forbes)
FVEST@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU (Floyd Vest)
georgr@microsoft.com
germaine@cs.columbia.edu (Germaine L'Eveque)
grahamf@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Graham French)
gross@math.utah.edu (Fletcher Gross)
gt2341c@prism.gatech.edu (Webb Roberts)
gtoal@robobar.co.uk (Graham Toal (gtoal@vangogh.cs.berkeley.edu))
hamel@primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel)
Harry_Lash@mindlink.bc.ca (Harry Lash)
heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Lance Heard)
hemkumar@rice.edu (Nariankadu D. Hemkumar)
hhansen@kjemi.unit.no (Harald Nordgard-Hansen)
hsg@acsu.buffalo.edu (Heather S. Goldstein)
htf@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk
humanski@sunfs1.dsd.northrop.com (Mr. Devious)
i001460@disc.dla.mil (Marylynn Orzeckowski)
iad@cogsci.edinburgh.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
ilana@niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Ilana Stern)
instone@euclid.bgsu.edu (Keith Instone)
ipg@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Ian Gent)
jdarchib@eos.ncsu.edu
jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick)
jimmosk@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jim J Moskowitz)
jke@math.ufl.edu
jmackinnon@kean.ucs.mun.ca
johnf@apollo.hp.com
jomp@mentor.dk (Jan Otto Munch Pedersen)
jpc7r@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Yeshik Meir Kahana)
jrowney@Arco.COM
jrowney@rrt.Arco.COM
jsbh+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Michael Santore)
jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau)
jwd2@rice.edu (Joseph William DeVincentis)
kablooey@control.Spies.COM (Blue Dragon)
kallan@bingo.ncc.umn.edu (Kris Allan)
kenney@hsi86.hsi.com (Brian Kenney)
kgodfrey@BBN.COM (Kathy Godfrey)
koods@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Ravi Sundaram)
kriguer@dwight.tcs.com (Marc Kriguer)
krisna@cs.wisc.edu (Krishna Kunchithapadam)
ks@cypress.com (Krishnan Sampathkumar)
lbaum@atc.boeing.com (Larry Baum)
lcohen@wam.umd.edu (Laura A. Cohen)
leichter@cs.widener.edu (Seth Leichter)
levin@BBN.COM (Joel B Levin)
lloyd@prl.philips.co.uk (Phil Lloyd)
lrussell@kean.ucs.mun.ca
lundgren@vesta.unm.edu (Chad Lundgren)
lupine!susan@uunet.UU.NET (Susan Deyl)
luw@aberystwyth.ac.uk
M.Byrne@massey.ac.nz (M.D Byrne)
mage@groupw.cns.vt.edu (Kurt Adam)
marithe@ifi.uio.no (Marit Henningsen)
mark-r@spec0.electrical-engineering.manchester.ac.uk (Mark Robinson (JO PhD))
mathur@nas.nasa.gov (Sanjay R. Mathur)
maton@herald.usask.ca (Terry Maton)
matthew@PRAM.CS.UCLA.EDU (Matthew Merzbacher)
mayoff@austin.eds.com (Rob Mayoff)
mclase@riemann.math.mun.ca (Michael Clase)
mea@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (AHNGER, MARY E)
MEA@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (Mary Ahnger)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
merle@unx.sas.com (Merle Finch)
michele@apex.ccs.yorku.ca
Mike_Dunn@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Dunn)
mjohnsto@cfdev1.shearson.com (Mike Johnston)
mknapp@isp.nwu.edu (Mike Knapp)
mkw6d@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Martyn K. White)
mmp@osf.org
moews@math.berkeley.edu (David Moews)
Monty_Solomon@proponent.com (Monty Solomon)
morna@dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
nayak@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Krishna Nayak)
nee1@midway.uchicago.edu (barbara helen need)
neil@essex.ac.uk (Dewhurst N E J)
NRNOBLE%MIAMIU.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi (Nick Noble)
nv90-mho@nada.kth.se
ogden@stat.tamu.edu (Todd Ogden)
Pai-Satish@CS.YALE.EDU (A. Satish Pai)
palmer@hsi86.hsi.com (Mike Palmer)
parvin1@husc.harvard.edu
pbhyc!djdaneh@PacBell.COM
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce)
phil@zorch.sf-bay.org (Phil Gustafson)
plate@infotek.dk (John Plate)
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
popcorn@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Valerie Mates)
quinn@ee-cf.stanford.edu (Christine A. Quinn)
RABINOWITZ@vax8.bear.com (Ari Rabinowitz, WorkStations, x6518)
raek@Athena.MIT.EDU
rajiv@rajiv.b17c.ingr.com (Rajiv Agrawal)
rberesfo@cix.compulink.co.uk (Ross Beresford)
rbrown@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Rich Brown Cray Operations)
rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us (Ruth Alleman)
ria@math.ufl.edu
rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard Harms)
richardc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Richard Commander)
richards@cise.nsf.gov (Dana Richards)
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rid@spiff (Robert I Danielsen)
rjh@allegra.att.com (Robert Holt)
roche@cs.rochester.edu (Jim Roche)
roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
rrh@SEI.CMU.EDU (Robert Holibaugh)
rstenson@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Ronald Ernest Stenson)
rt@ukc.ac.uk
rxc@cs.purdue.edu (Rajiv Choudhary)
s2784326@techst02.technion.ac.il (Raz Gerstl)
s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
S7985203@TETHYS.UCC.UMASS.EDU (Christiane E. Santos)
sabel@cs.cornell.edu (Laura Sabel)
SASBEA@vm.sas.com (Bonnie Allen)
sasjw3@unx.sas.com (Jade Walker)
schaller@hsi86.hsi.com (Dave V. Schaller)
shair@barolo.cso.uiuc.edu (Bob Shair)
shjnaga@ncsc.org (Rodney Shojinaga)
simon@cs.city.ac.uk (Simon Brock-Gunn)
siseth@hitchcock.eng.uiowa.edu
skadaver@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (SK)
skitchen@pica.army.mil
snielsen@computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk
sr@apollo.computation.umist.ac.uk
sshankar@cs.umn.edu (Subash Shankar)
ST902415@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (Adam Levin)
steiner@andy.bgsu.edu (Ray Steiner)
Steven.Stout@EBay.Sun.COM (Steven Stout)
stevena@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Steven Alexander)
stig@lise.unit.no (Stig Hemmer)
stoffel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Stoffel)
strydom@cs.sun.ac.za (9119175 Strydom)
sunder@bach.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
sven@cs.widener.edu (Sven Heinicke)
T.D.Sadlier@massey.ac.nz (T.D. Sadlier)
tac6189@hertz.njit.edu (Tom Carmichael)
tcj@math.ufl.edu
tday@ps.ucl.ac.uk (Tim Day)
tfarmer@ferrari.datamark.co.nz (Thomas Farmer)
Thomas.W.Scharle.1@nd.edu
timv@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy VanFosson)
tmm@cs.brown.edu (T. M. Murali)
tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life? Ha!)
turney@cs.cornell.edu (Jenn Turney)
ubeck@gate.fzi.de (Ulrich Beck)
under@cs.cornell.edu (Judith Underwood)
V070N53B@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (MARK PRZYBYSZEWSKI)
walsh%ibis@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
wcw27974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bill Wendling)
wenner@tsd.eds.com (Richard Wenner)
wfp@world.std.com (William F Phillips)
WILCOX@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Stephen Wilcox, Mathematical Institute, Oxford, (2)73571)
wilson@hsi86.hsi.com (John Wilson)
wsbusup2@urc.tue.nl (Boudewijn Wayers)
zaphod@sam.ksu.ksu.edu
zaveri@apple.com (Ameet Zaveri)

Thank you all for your interest.

Matthew
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