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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:04:52 -0400 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: My bike got vandalized last night
	<Aug.25.10.27.32.1992.26127@remus.rutgers.edu>

kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:

[sad story about bike getting trashed deleted]

>	Anyone know the legal liability of the bar?  How do I pursue
>reimbursement if the bar is liable?  It's New Jersey.

Gasoline in a glass bottle, rag stuck in neck...

-peter

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: riding clothes choices
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:23:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.213019.26541@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
|randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:
|>  For that matter, the aerostitch
|>isn't any better than denim in abrasion resistance, as far as I know
|>(please correct me if I err).
|
|You err.  :-)
|
|Randy, you may wish to avert your eyes, FACTS follow. :-)

  Darn, I didn't look away in time...

|At 50 mph the results were:
|3 oz leather		86'  0" 
|Kevlar			22'  1" 
|Codura Nylon		18'  3"
|Denim, 2 year old	 4' 0.5"

  Am I to assume that aerostich is made from either Kevlar or Codura Nylon,
then?  You fail to make the connection in your post...

  In which case, I'm sorry John - please disreguard my erroneous references
to aerostich.

Randy Davis                             UUCP: randy@megatek.com
("A notch above STUPID fast") ZX-11 Pilot     megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: jhblank@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Joey H. Blankenship)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: California only: Fiamm dealer
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:44:17 GMT
Reply-To: jhblank@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Joey H. Blankenship)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <p1ckb24@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> ian@lassen.wpd.sgi.com (Ian Clements) writes:
>In <3yan_!d.blave@netcom.com> blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins) writes:
>>Having bought a pair (High/Low tones), I don't know whether there's enough
>>room inside the front fairing of my '87 CBR1000 to mount both of them, so
>>I may have one up for sale soon...
>
> Well, there was no room in the front of my Katana. 


I bought a pair for my Katana and was able to install them both in the front
of the bike.  I mounted one in place of the original horn and attached the
other to the frame (had to fashion the bracket myself.)  Bought the relay from
radio shack and used a separate fuse for each horn.  The relay actually has 2
sides to allow connecting 2 devices.  These things are loud.  I'm just itching
to try them out on some cage (I hope they have their window down at the time,
so they will get the full effect.)

Joey.
'91 Katana 750
DoD #404
jblankensh@admin.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Subject: CB750 Nighthawk - impressions
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:59:28 GMT


Hi,

   I went to the local Honda dealership and saw the
   '92 CB750 Nighthawk.  I liked the driving position
   and the looks of the Black model.  I would like to
   know if there is anybody who has ridden them who
   can tell me about the feel, ride, acceleration,
   durability and reliability of these models.

   The local dealership quotes $4200 + TTL and a
   Houston dealer quotes $4000 + TTL.  Is this a good
   price or can it be reduced furthur ?

   If there is anybody in Houston/Austin who wants to
   go window-shopping, I would like to join.

   Thanks

Suresh
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:37:20 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: GRIN :-)

Howdy,

Saw this on a totally unrelated mailing list...

Nathan Loofbourrow <loofbour@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes:
[stuff]
> I'm almost as excited as I was just now when I saw that THANK GOD
> rec.motorcycles.harley got created. I mean, the discussion on
> rec.motorcycles was just getting WAY TOO COMPLICATED and we really
> needed to split off those harley folks so we could keep the discussion
> at a reasonable pace. YEAH.
> 
> Actually, I think rec.motorcycles.harley should be devoted exclusively
> to discussion of those guys who drive around in 1970s Buicks and just
> WEAR Harley T-shirts, but have never ridden one in their lives.


Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
From: pooder@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD Battle Hymn entry
Date: 29 Aug 92 08:44:00 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <1992Aug29.162030.89919@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>, bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:>
>         Wagner:
>         Ride of the Valkyries.
> 
> 
>            Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
>                     DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
>              Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.

There we go.  I knew if I stayed in this newsgroup I could start getting some
culture into these DoD types.  Of course Wagner is a little . . . um, BMWesque
for most of the DoDers' motorcycles.  Gretchen likes it, though.

WMy first motorcycle was a KZ440.  I'd roll it out of the garage, "Get your
motor runnin'. . . ,"  put on my helmet, "Head out on the highway. . . ," put
on jacket and gloves, "Loookin' for adventure . . . ," throw my leg over the 
 seat, and press the starter button "N-n-n-n-n-na-na-na-nan" --so much for 
"Born to be Wild".  I never did figure out what music was right for that 
motorcycle.  Neither one I have now is right for "Born to be Wild;" I've
gotta get a Harley, I guess.
Pooder - Rochester, MN - DoD 591 - LotN
"What Do *You* Care What Other People Think?" -- Richard Feynman
Gretchen  - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500
Wanted: Ducati 750SS,  1950's Harley Davidson
From: shjnaga@ncsc.org (Rodney Shojinaga)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thanks a pant's full, DoD...
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:08:02 GMT
Reply-To: shjnaga@ncsc.org (Rodney Shojinaga)
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Carolina Supercomputing Center

Ahhhhhh, I haven't flamed Christopher Geney Banana for a long time, it's nice
to see you made it back to netland.  You said:

	 "I really don't give two shits about your opinions."

yet you have responded to his post, that makes you all the same things
you claim him to be.  
	You both are just a couple of immature little brats. I think you 
should put each other across each others knees and spank each other, so 
there - nyah, nyah :-P 
	You guys sound like you were lovers when you were together and one 
or the other stood the other one up. I just love these juicy little
trivia tidbits ;-)
	And now for the ultimate flame: In spite of your Harley, I think
the Japanese in you is beginning to come out --> you put quotes around the
word "jap", something you wouldn't have done back in your youth.  You're
getting to be a softie :-)

  
  
    FFFFFFF   UU    UU   JJJJJJJJJ   IIIIIIII    Rodney R. Shojinaga
   FF        UU    UU       JJ         II        DoD #134
  FFFFFF    UU    UU       JJ         II         XS11 Midnight Special
 FF        UU    UU   JJ  JJ         II          Kyokushinkai Karate
FF        UUUUUUUU   JJJJJJ      IIIIIIII        North Carolina
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Law Editorial
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:24:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:
: (should I appoint myself the KotHL?) there are some some valid 
: justifications, and some bullshit on both sides of the issue.

   Very true!  Politics as usual.

: to inform myself as well as I can on the issue, and while there are all 
: kinds of studies demonstrating the safety benefits of helmet laws (and if

   Excuse me but do the studies show that helmets or helmet *laws* are
beneficial.  There is a difference and I just want to make sure you meant
what you said here. 
 
: aren't any other issues for supporting helmet laws. I recognize and respect 
: those who argue against helmet laws because of the "freedom of choice" 
: argument, but I'll give up that small freedom for the enormous benefit to 

   I think it was Ben Franklin who said, "Those who would give up a little
freedom in exchange for a little security deserve and will get neither."
Government intrusion into personal decisions is *not* a good idea.
That sort of logic leads to things like the Prohibition, and restrictive
gun laws, etc.  Hey, motorcycles are dangerous so let's just outlaw them
altogether, but wait, cars kill more people per year than any other form
of transportation so let's outlaw them too.  And, you know, alcohol is really
pretty destructive so let's. . . ooops we already tried that.

--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
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From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: advice on gear
Keywords: street leathers
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:11:21 GMT
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: AT&T Tridom, Engineering

I'm sending off my loan papers this week, to apply for a loan on a used bike.
I've carefully padded the loan amount to give me enough cash to purchase all
the street gear I've been meaning to buy for the last few years.  With these
visions of mail-order packages and happy dealers, I thought I'd ask the net
for opinions.  (Something it seems to have an endless supply of...except about
roads in PA, but that's another story...)  I've read through the last 3 years 
issues of Motorcyclist and Cycle World, the bike reviews archive and all my
saved r.m articles.  Since I didn't find what I was looking for I decided to
post.

The main items I'm looking for info on are:
1) Sport bike luggage.  I've looked at an Eclipse unit that has a saddle bag
    and soft trunk combo.  Looks good for what I want.  Does anyone in net-land
    have experience with similiar soft luggage on a sport bike?

2) 2 piece street leathers.  I know that the V-Pilot and Stealth are the current
    rave here in wreck.moto, but I was hoping to avoid the shiek-poseur gear and
    go for something more sport oriented.  :-)   I really like the Vanson "Viper"
    since it has attachable body armour.  (Bonus points since it comes in white
    and blue, the colors of my bike.  Definite poseur bonus.)  I've also looked
    at the new Spartan (better than the old 2000, says so right in the brochure)
    and it is $100 cheaper than the Vanson.  I'd love the Kushitani, but the
    loan isn't that big.  Anyone tried the Fieldsheer leathers?

3)  Boots and Gloves:  Unfortunately, the shops around here don't carry many 
    brands of boots.  I'd like some that I can get to match the leathers above.
    (Poseur points, once again.  Geesh, next thing you know I'll ditch the geezer
    and start looking at FJs or maybe an EX-500.  :-)

Any and all opinions are accepted.  Flames are accepted, though I doubt I'll have
much time to respond.  I'm still working on my study of counter-steering a
Stagthrope Akita (The famed Jap-repli-racer).  The text is coming along nicely,
but I haven't been able to find any photos of it's world premier in Austria.

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ba.motorcycles, anyone?
Date: 25 Aug 1992 20:18:33 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <ramarren-250892073137@kip-5.apple.com> ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi) writes:
>In article <p0d62jo@twilight.wpd.sgi.com>, ian@lassen.wpd.sgi.com (Ian
>Clements) wrote:
>> In <1992Aug24.183017.346@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker) writes:
>> >>I'd like to suggest ba.motorcycles.  

I live thousands of miles from the Bay Area, and I'd *beg* for a
ba.motorcycles just so that we'd get fewer postings like
"A saw a speed-trap up near Alice's just a few minutes ago"
shot around the globe.

All the net is NOT California, folks.      :)

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brianm@sco.com (Brian Moffet)
Subject: Re: Photo Radar
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:45:20 GMT

jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com) writes:
>It's not photo; there's just radar. It once told me I was going A3 miles
>per hour. (I think) that's all it's there for. 

these things are great.  Some friends of mine and I were clocked at
23 miles per hour, running downhill waving our arms at it.  Couldn't keep that
speed up for very long though :-)

brian moffet
--
"Face it, Chuck.  Taken as an aggregate, the human race is a stupid, sorry lot."
                           -- Jonathan Quist

brianm@sco.com  or uunet!sco!brianm                    Speaking for Myself
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:49:40 GMT


Someone told me my name was being taken in vain.

>In article <1992Aug28.210334.24662@news.nd.edu>, Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:
>
>|> bullshit with the best of them. This INCLUDES the DOD GODS. Thats right,
>|> Im talking to you LAZLO NEMETH, RANDY DAVIS, JON QUIST, ED GREEN, DANCES

Oh.  Him again.  At least get the name right, if you must use it at all.
And face east when you utter it.  (Uh, that's east.sun.com, not heading 090.)

In article <1992Sep2.180308.22327@mtxinu.COM> choke@xinet.com writes:
>J. Quist is a DoD god already?  Man that guy moves fast. I want to be a DoD
>pope.  I have decided.


Heck, I didn't even know I had made it to Cardinal Richelieu yet, much less
godhood.  I guess it's all in the timing.  Spout off enough when an
impressionable youngster happens by, and next thing you know they're
prostate^H^H^Hrate before you.  So go ahead, become a DoD pope.  Did you
want to be the misanthrope pope, the pope who could cope, the grope pope,
the heliotrope pope, the isotope pope, or the pope soap on a rope?
(Not to forget the gyroscope pope, father of of countersteering, or
the oscilloscope pope, father of tankslappers, or the slope pope, holy
father of The Dirt.  And of course, the antelope pope, which is the
DoD equivalent of the Dali Llama.)  But before you hype up your hope,
run, don't lope, for the Keeper of High Exhalted Titles is no philantrope.
Because you want to be pope, and in keeping with the sacred tradition
of Live to Flame; Flame to Live, you have to pass the Papal Smear Test.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: carrying moolah on long trips
Summary: Membership HAS Its Privileges
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:15:35 GMT

* Bill Ranck <ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu>  wrote: 
>   Sorry, I was not aware of any anti-bike bias at Amex.  But, I do know
>that in some places (Saudi Arabia for one) the banks charge you extra
>for exchanging traveller's checks.  That is why I said real US$ are
>sometimes an advantage.

In many countries, banks give a HIGHER exchange rate for traveler's chex
than they do for cash.  The reason is that cash must be handled like, well, 
money.  Travelers chex are not cash.  Travelers chex, once a bank has a 
hold of them are not even chex anymore.  The bank can stick them in a corner 
and just deal with the NUMBERS on them.  Once they have received their 
credit, they simply destroy the used chex.  There is no transport necessary 
and the physical entity of the check is unnecessary once the numbers have 
been recorded.  Therefore, there is no insurance necessary.  These savings
are passed on to you (which is bloody amazing in this day and time) in the
form of a higher rate of exchange for t-chex than for cash.

On another note... from personal experience and sundry observation, I can
say that AMERICAN EXPRESS traveler's checks are more widely accepted than
any other brand.  I have seen banks refuse some brands while even hotels
would cash Amex.  I will never again carry any brand other than Amex.
============================================================================
 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Road tip #1 (Cleaning your seat)
Organization: Programmers Who Say Ni
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:38:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.133816.12696@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
+I had some work done to it this year and the bastards cleaned the number plate!

It is much easier to dirty the number plate than to clean the rest
of the bike :-).

____________________________________________________________________________
	You're never too old to become younger -- Mae West
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            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: wsh8z@Turing.ORG (William S. Heyman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Worn sprocket direction.
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:54:22 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

I was cleaning a front sprocket and noticed it was slightly worn. I
have had this problem before and have replaced the chain and both
sprockets when I think they are too worn. The front sprocket is
slightly worn and has a couple thousand more miles left.

Anyway the sprockets are worn only on the side that "pulls" on the
chain. I was wondering if it would be better to put the sprocket on
backwards. I thought maybe it would cause a little less wear on the
chain. So my question is whether anyone has tried this and had serious
problems. 

Thanks,
	
Will Heyman		UVA Applied Math	wsh8z@virginia.edu
DoD# 638		CB450T Hawk '82		$5 Ultimate
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: >= 600 Sport bikes
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:19:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Aug29.232639.28299@tamsun.tamu.edu> peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:

>   I would like to have a comparison, however brief
>   it might be of sport bikes with capacity >= 600 CC.

to peruse a comparison of six 600cc sportbikes (and the yanaha seca 2), hie
thee to the nearest july issue of cycle world.  for literature on larger-
displacement rides, i can't help you.  the dealers should have tons of reprints
of any article that mentioned their product, and since you'll want to drool
on the bikes anyway :-), why not try there?

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
|                                                                          |
|            i feel sorry for old people with brittle bones --             |
|                   especially when they get in my way                     |
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Road tip #3 (Spare key)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:26:29 GMT

kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder) writes:

>>Spare key

> I always carry a spare.  It's easy with the Aerostitch
>because of the many pockets it has.  And I never ride without my
>Aerostitch.

Yea, but will you ever be able to find the key when you need it? The
Aerostich has so many pockets that I've lost stuff in there before.
Then later it's "Oh, that's which pocket I put it in!"  :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Question from a "Newbie"
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:27:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Aug25.185206.24782@isc-br.isc-br.com> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>In article <17dbj1INN5r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>In article 92Aug24124310@dante.nmsu.edu, kemery@nmsu.edu (Kendal Emery) writes:
>>>Can someone explain to me the reserve tank theory,  How gas gets
>>>into reserve tank..  ie. do I just fill up my tank and presto...
>>>gas is in reserve tank?  

>>Yep.  There are two tubes in the bottom of the tank that carry the gas
>>out of the tank into the engine.  One is taller than the other, this is
>[remainder of actual explanation deleted]

>Note who gave the DECENT answer - a fellow who's been roundly flamed
>for his mean-spirited attitude and general irascible nature.  Will I
>_ever_ understand human behavior?

that would be me.  i emailed the boy within an hour of his article hitting
the net, giving a similar explanation to ed's.  i'd have answered him over
the net, but he probably would have lost it in all the flame-noise.

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
|                                                                          |
|       "I love your post.  Please don't stop."   -- Lissa Shoun           |
|                                                                          |
|               "the swelling was real"  -- Paul S. Sears                  |
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