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From: sh666@selway.umt.edu (CRAZY NUTTY CRAZY)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Death Metal (or whatever) suggestions...
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:10:06 GMT
Organization: University of Montana

Actually I'd like to hear something with no lyrics at all if thats
possible...  slow, heavy & oppresive!  Thanks again.

							Dave
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Dead Fly Boy
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:43:26 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Nov16.182641.13215@cs.uwp.edu> itzenhui@cs.uwp.edu (Steve Itzenhuiser) writes:
>
>The fun has only just begun...

I might have missed something here, but whoever posted the above seems to be
making really esoteric messages. Could someone explain?

philip

Philip Wang
E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Though many a tortured night prevails thy Exorcisms shall but fail
While Crucifix doth burn my flesh I shall not yield to you unless I Die."
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From: asta@sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de (ASTA Uni-KL)
Subject: Iron Maiden prev. unreleased
Reply-To: asta@sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de (ASTA Uni-KL)
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern (Germany)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:28:22 GMT

Anybody interested in a CD with Iron Maiden playing live in a concert that
they made without advertising for it. They played mainly cover songs.
It was more or less a fun project they did.


Joerg

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From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Help finding Album
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:08:42 GMT

Hello Everyone.
		Recently in work we had a theft, and some of my CDs were pinched,
including a very rare album by a band called Witness (Rare in the UK at least).
The album was just "Witness" by a band called Witness, and I don't know if I can
get hold of a copy. The album was 1988 (I think), and they were a rock band fronted
by a woman singer, Debbie Davis. Some of the tracks I can remember were;

	Show me what you got
	Do it till we drop
	Into the fire

If anybody has or knows somewhere I can get hold of this album, could they please
let me know. I believe the album was deleted a long time ago, and that the band
were sacked by the record company....

Thanks for any help


Paul Lee (HOPPY)


---


		Cheers,
			Paul Lee (Hoppy)


			Meiko Scientific Ltd.

			Email: paull@meiko.com
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: BRUCE'S VOICE
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:38:50 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu's message of 18 Nov 92 04:26:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.042632.4302@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:
|
|	 They seem to have grown up a bit, and IMHO, this is not a good thing.
| Gone are the fantasy and horror images of Children of the Damned, Murders in
| the Rue Morgue, Number of the Beast, Still Life, Hallowed Be Thy Name, etc., 
| replaced by "socially-conscious" lyrix.  I think 
| they were much better when their messages were buried in the context of the
| "story" as in Revelations and Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
|
I couldn't agree more. I bought Fear of the Dark, and was disappointed to
discover that one of my favourite bands had gone all moralistic. Nothing
like the old Iron Maiden at all. This album is definitely a change for
the worse (all IMO, of course).


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From: IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: symphony gristle mix%%%:::
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:41:50 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

As i posted a long while ago, the gristle mix of Symphony of Destruction is
now available to the general public on the cassette version of the single.
(sadly, Breakpoint is not) anyway, i love the remix version almost more than
the original (being a big ministry fan!).  Anyway, i read here that Megadeth
was going to remix and re-release the entire album.  I've not heard anything
about it since. So, any new info would be very helpful to me and to the many
Megadeth fans on Alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy.
-Berns
IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Death Metal (or whatever) suggestions...
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:37:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov17.000210.12803@selway.umt.edu>, sh666@selway.umt.edu 
	(CRAZY NUTTY CRAZY) writes...

>This may sound strange to some of you DM heads out there.. but
>I kinda want to 'get in' to DM.  I'm not sure what is catogorized
>as true DM but maybe someone out there can make some suggestions.
>I am looking for something really _heavy_ with lots of crunch
>and good riffs.  I'm not all that into songs about dismembering
>little girls and satan, but if the music is good I guess I don't
>really mind.  

Metallica.  __Master_of_Puppets__.

'Nuff said.

>							Dave

					---Chet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Re: Left out Progressive
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:23:38 GMT

In article 12072@bsu-ucs, 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu () writes:
>> You left out one type, which might actually help you... Progressive.  There's
>> even a newsgroup (alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive) for it.  I won't go into
>> a long in-depth description of what progressive metal is - though I could,
>> since I co-wrote the FAQ for the group. ;)  Queensryche (except most of their
>> songs on "Empire") tends toward being progressive metal, as do groups like
>> King's X, Fates Warning, Crimson Glory, and Dream Theater.
>
>YOu seem to have forgotten one of the original prog.rock groups
>
>RUSH...What about Yes?  C'mon...
>
>			-Matt

Rush and Yes are **NOT** progressive metal. They are progressive rock. Pink Floyd
also belong in the progressive rock banner. Some of the early Rush stuff could be
classed progressive metal I guess, but they are a prog-rock band.

---


		Cheers,
			Paul Lee (Hoppy)


			Meiko Scientific Ltd.

			Email: paull@meiko.com

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From: itzenhui@cs.uwp.edu (Steve Itzenhuiser)
Subject: Re: Dead Fly Boy
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:23:46 GMT

VIDAR OLAF SOLBERG (vidaros@dhhalden.no) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov16.184326.266@news.columbia.edu>  (Philip Wang) writes:>
: >In article <1992Nov16.182641.13215@cs.uwp.edu> (Steve Itzenhuiser) writes:>>
: 
: >>The fun has only just begun...
: 
: >I might have missed something here, but whoever posted the above seems to be
: >making really esoteric messages. Could someone explain?
: >
: >philip
: 
: 
: If someone can explain this exstremely informative message, I think it has 
: to be Steve himself!...
: 
: 
: VidarOS
: 
: 	"Do ya wanna do some screamin'??"
: 		- "Yeah."
: 	"F**k you!  - DO YA WANNA DO SOME !!!_S_C_R_E_A_M_I_N_'_!!! ???"
: 		- "!!!_Y_E_A_H_!!!"
: 					JAYMZ (& the crowd)
: 					("Detroit Bad Boys" - Dbl CD)


Dead Fly Boy is a small band out of Wisconsin (cheese-town), and I'm just
postin' away, bein' weird.

Any questions?

Any answers?

Anyone care for a mint?
From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Masters of Reality, etc.
Date: 19 Nov 1992 02:57:42 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

Does anybody know what happended to the band Masters of Reality from
Syracuse?  I saw them at a club in Milwaukee a couple of years ago,w
but as far as I know they haven't put out anything since their debut
album in '88 or '89.  Are these guys even in existence?  These guyst
are a really fine eclectic mixture of some of the best heavy classic
rock bands. . .  Cream, Sabbath, raw Neil Young, etc.  Also, does
anybody know how to get a hold of a Trouble bootleg concert tape/LP
made in Aurora, Illinois in 1983?  I've never been able to come
across a copy myself. . .  Trouble, by the way, is fantastic, in
particular The Skull.  If you've only heard their later albums,
it's much different than Psalm 9 or The Skull, which are doomy and
downright depressing.  Any Trouble fans out there?
	Anyway, get back to me on the Mas. of Reality thing if you
know anything about what they've been up to.
From: rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Death vs Grindcore vs Thrash
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:06:53 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

In article <11006@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk (Barry Copeland TBS92) writes:
>
>Here's my _attempts_ at defining the genres
>
>Thrash - solid, fast rythm, moshable.
>         cf. Anthrax, Nuclear Assault, Slayer
>
>Death - solid, heavy, mid tempo to fast, a sort of grinding sound
>        cf. Death, Morbid Angel, Obituary
>      - can also be slow (no genre name)
>        cf. Autopsy, Anathema, Paradise Lost
>

I disagree with you here--most death is grindcore, but some is thrash (like
Slayer in their death periods).

>Grindcore - very fast, heavy , very grindy, - excellent tempo changes 
>            cf. Napalm Death, Carcass
>
>Hardcore - fast, not heavy, not really moshable.- matured punk
>           cf. Dead Kennedys, early Suicidal Tendencies
>
>Doom - very slow, verySt Vitus, Stillborn

Once again, I think the newer doom stuff mostly falls under grindcore. The 
older stuff is slow metal.
>
>Speed M - fast heavy, clear rythm
>          cf. Megadeth, Metallica

I think speed metal is an archaic term. The Great Kat could still be
classified as speed metal (where the emphasis is on speed and not on
quality) but Megadeth and Metallica are thrash.

chanel
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From: phucf@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr A P Masters)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Metallica live at Birmingham NEC 5/11/92
Date: 17 Nov 1992 13:51:28 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

Diamond Head and Metallica did Am I Evil? and Helpless.

apm
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From: itzenhui@cs.uwp.edu (Steve Itzenhuiser)
Subject: Dead Fly Boy
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:26:41 GMT


The fun has only just begun...
From: bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk (Barry Copeland TBS92)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: re: Megadeth/Suicidal
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:16:28 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

In article <1992Nov15.122354.8295@hsr.no> karl@hsr.no (Karl Martin Lund) writes:
>In article <911003b.5.721579747@ace.acadiau.ca>, 911003b@ace.acadiau.ca (JEFF BEAULIEU) writes:
>
>R. J. Herrera on all albums I've got except "The Art of Rebellion". On
>this one, Josh Freese plays the drums, but he doesn't appear to be an
>ordinary member of the band. (Additional musician.)
>

R.J.Herrera does not play on the first album ( called ,simply "Suicidal
Tendencies ).At the moment though , I cannot remember who he was.

Can anyone enlighten me on whether or not R.J.Herrera who recently left ST
is an alias for Danny Herrera who recently joined Napalm Death????

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Barrie Copeland         /"When a man lies,he murders some part of the world,
bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk/These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives
                        /All this I cannot bear to witness any longer           
                        /Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home" 
                        / CLIFF 1962-86
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From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Re: No Classification!  Find another method!
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:07:13 GMT

In article 12082@bsu-ucs, 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu () writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.202338.20399@meiko.com>, paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee) writes:
>> In article 12072@bsu-ucs, 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu () writes:
>>>> You left out one type, which might actually help you... Progressive.  There's
>>>> even a newsgroup (alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive) for it.  I won't go into
>>>> a long in-depth description of what progressive metal is - though I could,
>>>> since I co-wrote the FAQ for the group. ;)  Queensryche (except most of their
>>>> songs on "Empire") tends toward being progressive metal, as do groups like
>>>> King's X, Fates Warning, Crimson Glory, and Dream Theater.
>>>
>>>YOu seem to have forgotten one of the original prog.rock groups
>>>
>>>RUSH...What about Yes?  C'mon...
>>>
>>>			-Matt
>> 
>> Rush and Yes are **NOT** progressive metal. They are progressive rock. Pink Floyd
>> also belong in the progressive rock banner. Some of the early Rush stuff could be
>> classed progressive metal I guess, but they are a prog-rock band.
>
>If you see such distinct 'classification lines' between RUSH and Queensryche,
>then i'd say you're WAY too into the classification of music.  Do you all worjk
>for Musicland, or what?  Sure classification is useful if the music is
>absolutely unavailabe, but...I dunno, call me a non-classifier.  :)
>
>			-Matt

I didn't choose the classifications !!!!!!!!!!!!

---


		Cheers,
			Paul Lee (Hoppy)


			Meiko Scientific Ltd.

			Email: paull@meiko.com

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From: khisanth@wam.umd.edu (Mike Donovan)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.thrash
Subject: In The Eyes Of Death
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:13:13 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park


	I just picked up a 1991 Century Media release of: "In The Eyes Of Death" featuring the bands: UNLEASHED, ASPHYX, TIAMAT, MORGOTH, GRAVE and LOUDBLAST. 
The sound qualtiy is very good and I am pleased with all the bands. As I only 
got it about 15 minutes ago, I have not had time to listen to it in very much 
"depth." It contains 15 songs and about 59 minutes of music. 
I got it here in Maryland for about $11 on CD.
It contains very good liner notes and goes into each band in detail. Has 
anyone heard anything else from any of these bands. This is a debut release for
at least a few of them according to the notes. Also can anyone recommend other
similar death or thrash compilations on CD? Thanx...

-=KHISANTH=-
(khisanth@wam.umd.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik)
Subject: I.Maiden
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:06:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.042632.4302@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:

>In article <Bxtpsp.8Lv@math.uwaterloo.ca> amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:
>In article <bn.00f7@mndcrme.uoknor.edu> bn@mndcrme.uoknor.edu (Bo Najdrovsky) writes:
>>matter of preference, really... I actually liked Dickinson's voice better
>>when he did more of the 'operatic' vocals. On the past 3 albums he tries
>>to make his voice a bit rougher, and it just doesn't sound right to me.
>>Personally, my favorite Maiden period was from _Number_Of_The_Best_ all the
>>way to _Somewhere_In_Time_. The latest album (Fear Of The Dark) is much
>>better (IMHO) then NPFTD and _7th_Son_... but it ain't nowhere near NOTB or
>>Powerslave.
>>
>	Hear, hear!!  Finally, I've found someone who sees things a bit more
>in my direction.  Dickinson's vocals from Number Of The Beast to Somewhere In
>Time are the best.  I can't imagine why he'd NOT want to sound like that 
>anymore.  I mean, ANYONE can sing like he does now, but it's a select few that
>have the lungs to belt out songs like Children Of The Damned.  Iron Maiden's
>latest offerings are weak and don't conjure the imagery of past albums.  But
>then, that's my opinion.
>
>Never to be underestimated,
>						Big Al the Devil's Pal!!

>	They seem to have grown up a bit, and IMHO, this is not a good thing.
>Gone are the fantasy and horror images of Children of the Damned, Murders in
>the Rue Morgue, Number of the Beast, Still Life, Hallowed Be Thy Name, etc., 
>replaced by "socially-conscious" lyrix.  I think 
>they were much better when their messages were buried in the context of the
>"story" as in Revelations and Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
>
>					OH Well, Whatever, Wherever You Are,
>							Raythrax


I agree but bands, sometime, need to change their lyrics, they need to talk about other things and
sometimes need to change their music. I don't like too much this change in Maiden but I think they'll
be back with their good old-styled Heavy Metal and typical Maiden lyrics (legends, myths etc.) with
their next album (I hope so! 'cos we need it. I'm sick and tired of this new shitty bands that 
pretend to play Heavy Metal).

Erik The Viking.




-- 
Erik Campo campoe@JSP.UMontreal.Ca -- "Between the velvet lies
                                       There's a truth that's made of steel
                                       The vision never dies
                                       Life's a never ending wheel" R.J.Dio 1983
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From: d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.thrash
Subject: Grave and illiteracy (was Re: In The Eyes Of Death)
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:22:20 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <1992Nov20.121317.11756@kth.se> d90-two@czarny.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.002344.22384@ncsu.edu> tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:
[...]
>>Grave - Ahh, the reason I bought the comp. Probably my favorite Swedish
>>death metal band. Two albums - "Into the Grave" and "You'll Never See". I 
>>recommend "Into the Grave" to anyone. "You'll Never See" is pretty good, but
>>I think they should have never put the lyrics in there, they're really kind
>>of dumb. But the music is brutal.
>
>You say dumb? :-) I asked Jvrgen for the lyrics to "Into The Grave", but he
>didn't want to leave them out. He hasn't even written them down :-)
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Brain death. And you're not saying anything? Are you so accustomed to my
disastrous English that you don't react at all? :-)
What I meant was of course that he didn't want to give away the lyrics, and
they were left out because he thought they were too... dumb.

Sigh. I guess one should avoid posting when one hasn't slept for 26 hours
or whatever it was...

-- 
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[_<X>_] Thomas Wolmer        | just sadness and sorrow        |
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From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Battle Zone
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:28:55 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov17.033008.12788@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>I just found out that Paul Di'anno's band Battlezone (before they changed their
>name, or rather, extended it, to Paul DI'anno's Battlezone but otherwise same
>members) released an album called, wow, BATTLEZONE, I guess also on Shatter 
>Records. Can anyone tell me of the availablility of this album? I hear it's 
>just as killer (bad pun, sorry) as CHILDREN OF MADNESS and MURDER ONE. Aside 
>from LIVE PLUS ONE (a 1980? Iron Maiden EP released in Japan) it's the only
>Paul Di'anno recording to my knowledge that I don't have.
>
>philip
>Philip Wang
>E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
>"Though many a tortured night prevails thy Exorcisms shall but fail
>While Crucifix doth burn my flesh I shall not yield to you unless I Die."

	Well, I just saw the entire Battlezone collection as well as a lot
of IM singles on vinyl for about $10 each at a record show in Wayne, NJ.
They have them every month, so if you're really having trouble finding it,
I could get it for you or give you date and directions for the next show.

					Up the Irons,
						Raythrax
From: gse9k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: DRI, I didn't know they were still a band
Keywords: DRI, Band
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:56:02 GMT
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof


>>Anyone have any info on what DRI is up to these days?  I didn't know
>>they were still a band but it looks like they will be coming here to 
>
>I believe they just came out with a new album not too long ago.. though i
>have no idea what the name is... anyone?


It's called _Definition_, on Rotten Records.  Personally, I can't stand
it, but I don't like most of their stuff.  How many albums do they have,
and they still sound like a stupid pseudothrash 10th grade band?  At least
it was kinda new on their first album, but come on already.



s
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From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (R0Y)
Subject: Re: This Music-type casting argument
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:56:36 GMT

In article <OKES.92Nov19123009@SunLab44.essex.ac.uk> okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke) writes:
>In article <BxxDCq.9v@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mheniff@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (heniff michael j jr) writes:
>| What's with all this categorizing?  Why not set up two categories, good and 
>| bad?
>|
>Because it's all subjective.

This is also the reason why so many arguments arise from categorizing
music.


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From: s914534@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Ut)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: ManOwar Album
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:51:05 GMT

dagt@dhhalden.no (DAG THALBERG) writes:

>Eric Adams' voice has become awful (don't misunderstand me, he is still one 
>of the greatest HM-singers) compared to the older albums. 

If you listen to 'Master of the Wind' I don't think you can say his voice is
awful - Eric Adams has a fantastic *singing* voice, the only problem is the
last three albums have got progressively faster, forcing him to talk fast/
scream/growl etc instead of *sing*. My only gripe with the new album is the
speed, its too restrictive in terms of vocals and guitar - take a listen to
'Into Glory Ride' or 'Hail to England', they are so much slower: Eric Adams
provides the melody for every song with his voice. There are patches on the
new album (ie the slow bits) where the spirit of those early albums is clearly
evident, I was a bit disappointed those patches were not larger.

	Ut


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