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From: jetta@power.juice.or.jp (Kouhei MATSUDA)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: test (In Japanese)
Date: 22 Dec 92 05:40:43 GMT
Organization: Juice Station. Sizuoka. JPN

Sorry!  This is test please ignore.
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From: racsho@cpdc.canon.co.jp (Takanori ``Racsho'' Nishijima)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: test
Date: 26 Dec 92 00:55:12 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Peripherals Development Center 1, Canon Inc., Tokyo, JAPAN


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From: tajima@ryohma.ks.yokogawa.co.jp (Kazuaki Tajima)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: test
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:45:15 GMT
Distribution: fj.test
Organization: YOKOGAWA ELECTORIC CORPORATION

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From: greg@takumiapt.fxis.fujixerox.co.jp (Kensaku Masuda)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: Test
Date: 24 Dec 1992 06:54:52 GMT
Organization: Fuji Xerox Infomation Sysyems Co.Ltd Tokyo Japan.
Distribution: fj
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From: yutaka@mcs.meitetsu.co.jp (Yutaka Tsuboi)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: Test posting. Ignore it.
Date: 28 Dec 92 07:17:12 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Meitetsu Computer Service Co., Ltd., Nagoya, Japan


  Test posting. Ignore it.

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From: studis@ndsenta.in-berlin.de (Deutsche Studenten 006)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: 3rd test
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:09:09 GMT
Organization: Japanisch-Deutsches Zentrum Berlin, Germany

3rd test
From: iwasaki@katsura.ces.kyutech.ac.jp (Iwasaki -Walking- Yoshihito)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: test
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:03:17 GMT
Organization: Kyushu Institute of Technology, Iizuka, JAPAN.
Distribution: fj
NNTP-Posting-Host: katsura.ces.kyutech.ac.jp

sorry, This is test....
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From: studis@ndsenta.in-berlin.de (Deutsche Studenten 006)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: Re: test
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:09:07 GMT
Organization: Japanisch-Deutsches Zentrum Berlin, Germany

hallo,

this is a "follow" test from Waffle 1.64 software running on IBM clone.

thide@craps.elcom.nitech.ac.jp (Hidekazu Takahashi) writes:

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Newsgroups: fj.test
From: momoi2@condor.stcloud.msus.edu (Katsuhiko Momoi)
Subject: testing only
Organization: St. Cloud State Univ., MN
Distribution: mn
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:54:23 GMT

This is a test in English.
-KM
From: ohba@mds2g1.sophia-sys.co.jp (Hideki Ohba)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: Test for Kanji code. (In Japanese/Kanji)
Date: 24 Dec 92 04:57:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sophia Systems Corporation. Japan

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From: sugiura@zuken.co.jp
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: Ztest
Date: 24 Dec 92 09:55:28 GMT
Distribution: fj.test
Organization: ZUKEN Inc. Yokohama, JAPAN

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From: kazz@cssi.co.jp (Kazuhiro Aihara)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: Test
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:55:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Canon Supercomputing S.I.Inc Japan.


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From: momoi2@condor.stcloud.msus.edu (Katsuhiko Momoi)
Subject: testing
Organization: St. Cloud State University, MN
Distribution: mn
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:10:59 GMT

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From: test@kyu-cs.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp (Test Program)
Subject: REPLY ERROR To: greg@takumiapt.fxis.fujixerox.co.jp (Re: Test)
Reply-To: kasahara@kyu-cs.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp (Yoshiaki Kasahara)
Organization: Kyushu Univ., Fukuoka, Japan
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:58:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 16:02:45 JST
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From: greg@takumiapt.fxis.fujixerox.co.jp (Kensaku Masuda)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: Test
Date: 24 Dec 1992 06:54:52 GMT
Organization: Fuji Xerox Infomation Sysyems Co.Ltd Tokyo Japan.
Distribution: fj
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From: a-kawa@kanlab.sdl.hitachi.co.jp (Akira @_@ Kawashima)
Newsgroups: fj.test
Subject: test
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:13:39 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Kansai Systems Laboratory, SDL, HITACHI Ltd., Osaka, Japan

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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Japan, rice and related stories (Again!) (In English)
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:27:05 GMT

inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki) writes:

>In article <3500@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>    >>
>    >>According to an article in a recent Daily Yomiuri, there is
>    >>confusion over what the limits are for rice/grain imported into
>    >>Japan. That is, the regulations for domestic rice/grain and imported
>    >>rice/grain are different. 
>    >>
>Oh, if this is the case, the regulation is clearly another barrier.
>Could you tell the date of the article,
>or could you quote from it.

Sorry, but I can't find it. I remember discussing the subject on
a Tuesday and then finding the article in the next days' paper. I have
all the papers except December 9th so I suspect it was in that one.

Dave

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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Japan, rice and related stories (Again!) (In English)
Date: 22 Dec 92 08:31:00 GMT
Organization: Research Lab., Anritsu Corp., Atsugi-shi, JAPAN
In-reply-to: davidg@aegis.or.jp's message of 20 Dec 92 23:37:28 GMT

In article <3500@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
    >>
    >>According to an article in a recent Daily Yomiuri, there is
    >>confusion over what the limits are for rice/grain imported into
    >>Japan. That is, the regulations for domestic rice/grain and imported
    >>rice/grain are different. 
    >>
Oh, if this is the case, the regulation is clearly another barrier.
Could you tell the date of the article,
or could you quote from it.

I, as a Japanese consumer, am also mad at high price of rice.
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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Japan, rice and related stories (Again!) (In English)
Date: 25 Dec 92 01:31:31 GMT
Organization: Research Lab., Anritsu Corp., Atsugi-shi, JAPAN
In-reply-to: davidg@aegis.or.jp's message of 24 Dec 92 09:46:38 GMT

In article <3514@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
    >>
    >>And it makes another kind of sense as well: if there were clear
    >>regulations then whether or not the imported grains were OK would be
    >>the responsibility of the Japan-side government. As it is, they can
    >>compare the amount of post-harvest-chemicals allowed on domestic
    >>products (which aren't shipped long distances) to that which are
    >>allow by other countries (for products that are shipped long
    >>distances) and complain. 
    >>
    >>This was how the discussion in one of the groups I lead got started:
    >>somebody complaining that "imported grain have more chemicals". I
    >>brought in the article from the Yomiuri to show that the
    >>responsibility for what is safe/unsafe lies with the government in
    >>Tokyo which hasn't set clear limits. 
    >>
I believe you are talking about
Government's responsibility to provide cheap and safe grains to the consumers,
not its responsibility to encourage import of grains.
# Am I right?

It is not Japanese Government's responsibility
to set a regulation which encourages consumers to buy imported grain;
It is rather the producer's responsibility
to produce products that make consumers happy and buy them.
This is what the market is.

Of course, I agree Japanese Government is doing poor job,
but I do believe American farmers should manage to provide
cheap and safe grains to Japanese consumers.
Otherwise, they will fail to sell in Japanese market.

Any way, our Government is no good,
in fact, they always set a regulation
so that it will easily compromise different opinions.
If a Japanese Newspaper says in its scare headline
that chemicals in grain is dangerous,
they say "O.K. let us set a lower limit to grains,"
and if the American farmers complain the limit is not convenient for shipping,
they say "O.K. let us set a exception to imported grains."
They never think of consumer's benefit.
# I hate this Government attitude; it makes so many misunderstandings,
# problems and Japan-bashers around the world.  But this is another story.

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From: ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Japan, rice and related stories (Again!) (In English)
Date: 22 Dec 92 08:07:32 GMT
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Reply-To: ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp
Organization: Personal Media Corp., Tokyo Japan
In-reply-to: davidg@aegis.or.jp's message of 20 Dec 92 23:37:14 GMT
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Hi. Dave,

In article <3500@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

   According to an article in a recent Daily Yomiuri, there is
   confusion over what the limits are for rice/grain imported into
   Japan. That is, the regulations for domestic rice/grain and imported
   rice/grain are different. 

   IMHO the relevant question is why there is this difference in
   regulations rather than why the U.S.A. has different limits than
   Japan.

I should have known better.
For my information, could you explain if it is either

	(1) - the regulation for domestic rice/grain is stiffer, or

	(2) - the regulation for imported rice/grain is stiffer?

Given the tone, I suspect what you read in Daily Yomiuri suggested
(2).  I have no idea why, myself.

BTW, I might point out that domestic rice/grain usually require much
smaller amount of post-harvest chemicals because the produce is
shipped for a shorter distance and is consumed much quicker and
presumably the storage is better controlled than during its trip
across the ocean. It is indeed a sight to see those big cargo boats
(grain carriers) travell and dump the produce at the destination
harbour. My home town has a big grain oil plant of Honen Oil, and I
once saw the operation from the bridge of a big grain carrier. Just
magnificent.  The coditions in the cargo bay can be pretty nasty even
though the shipping companies try to modernize the equipment. So, I do
understand the need for post-harvest for across-the-ocean shipping.

Like Dave, I wonder why there are TWO different regulations. Doesn't
make sense to me.

ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp
From: dji@atson.asahi-np.co.jp (David J. Iannucci)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: All-you-can-eat restaurants
Date: 24 Dec 92 09:35:12 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: ATSON, Inc. (a subsidiary of the Asahi Shimbun)

I saw an article recently on this topic, and am bummed that I missed
the previous articles (we purge fast here).  You may have noticed that
I posted recently asking people to share restaurant ideas, but I got
zero responses.  Oh well.

As it turns out, I know about an all-you-can-eat place, and I've been
meaning to go there for quite a while, but just haven't got around to
it.  I found out about it in one of those "gaijin guide" type books.
Has anyone been there?  If so, how was it?  After I manage to get there,
I'll post a note about it.  Here's the info about the place:

	Takeya
	Belitas Bldg. 6F
	6-14-7 Ueno

	All you can eat sukiyaki (11:30am-9:00pm) or shabu-shabu
	(5:00pm-9:00pm) with rice, tsukemono, etc.
	Price: men Y2000, women Y1800

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Gaijin-in-residence                     ATSON/Trans Cosmos Inc., Tokyo, Japan
(They move fast)*(They tell me)*(There's someone)*(Rainbows)*(Alternate Tune)
From: mj1078@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp (mmanuel pece)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Forwarded : STUCK IN TOKYO
Date: 22 Dec 92 11:31:54 GMT
Organization: Kyushu Institute of Tech., Iizuka, JAPAN.
Distribution: fj
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp
In-reply-to: 


I saw this post in soc.culture.japan .
I don't know if the poster has access to fj.*, but if you have any
information you could e-mail him .

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From: George_Taylor@mindlink.bc.ca (George Taylor)
Subject: STUCK IN TOKYO
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:10:45 GMT

I am flying to Narita from Vancouver B.C. Canada on Dec 29th pprobably
arriving in Tokyo on the 30th (I know, bad timing) However it was not my
intention to stay in Tokyo, but I cant get a connecting flight out to Mani
lla until Jan 3rd) Over the last while I have been reading this net. There is
no way I can afford to stay in Tokyo because it seems prohibitively expensive
I have thought about the Youth Hostel but will it be open over the holiday
period ? Will most shops and stuff be closed for this period. Is there a way
not to spend a lot of money while I am ther for a short period of time. Are
the Japanese really as racist as this net makes them out to be ?
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From: "John R Kennedy" <p00200@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Let's use Chinese Text (Re: Please STOP using Chinese Text!)
Organization: BIT Engineering
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:59:12 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

Hello.  I am new to this newsgroup so please forgive me for this stupid
question.  I have seen several messages with funny-looking text such as:

>           follow-up ===> $@I>O@9F7o!JL>;l!K(J
>           email =======> $@EE;RM97o(J
>           font  =======> $@;zBN(J 

Apparently, this is some kind of method for encode kanji in ASCII.  The
first character of each of the funny strings is an ESC which doesn't do
anything special on my computer.  Are you guys using some kind of Japanese
ANSI-type system?  I am running DOS/V (Japanese DOS) if that helps.
Please, some kind soul give me the scoop on this.

Thanks,
The BitMan
From: hly@pi.titech.ac.jp (Hu Li-you 03/95)
Subject: Happy new year !
Organization: Tokyo Institute of Tech., Precision and Intelligence Lab., Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 04:00:06 GMT



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From: li@hara.cs.keio.ac.jp (Shiao-Chieh LEE)
Subject: Re: Let's use Chinese Text (Re: Please STOP using Chinese Text!)
Summary: a follow-up for chinese translation
Keywords: comment, chinese
Organization: Graduat school of Keio University, Japan.
	<61L512.92Dec17151720@wucc.cfi.waseda.ac.jp>
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:42:11 GMT



In article <61L512.92Dec17151720@wucc.cfi.waseda.ac.jp> 61l512@cfi.waseda.ac.jp writes:

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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: All-you-can-eat restaurants
Date: 25 Dec 92 07:43:43 GMT
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In-reply-to: dji@atson.asahi-np.co.jp's message of 24 Dec 92 09:35:12 GMT

In article <3072@anprda.atson.asahi-np.co.jp> dji@atson.asahi-np.co.jp (David J. Iannucci) writes:
    >>
    >>I saw an article recently on this topic, and am bummed that I missed
    >>the previous articles (we purge fast here).  You may have noticed that
    >>I posted recently asking people to share restaurant ideas, but I got
    >>zero responses.  Oh well.
	I am sorry, Dave.  I noticed your previous article;
	but I was not quite sure what you like to eat.
    >>
    >>	      All you can eat sukiyaki (11:30am-9:00pm) or shabu-shabu
    >>	      (5:00pm-9:00pm) with rice, tsukemono, etc.
    >>
	I do not think you really enjoy tsukemono :-)
	Why do not you ask where to get your own favorite,
	and cross-post it to fj.rec.food;
	I believe this will work.
    >>
	One thing which might hint:
	if you are interested in Japanese traditional New Years dish,
	go to Seven-Eleven or whatever on 30/31 December
	and buy a small set of OSECHI.
	You can never find one in other country other time.
    >>--
	# This will be my last posting in 1992;
	# if some of my aggressive postings offended you this year, I apologize.
	# I have made a resolution that I should be more polite next year.
	# Happy New Year to you all,
	# and may this Newsgroup become more and more active in coming year.

	Shintaro
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From: ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa)
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Japan, rice and related stories (Again!) (In English)
Date: 24 Dec 92 06:56:39 GMT
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In-reply-to: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU's message of 23 Dec 92 08:28:51 GMT
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In article <1992Dec23.082905.24775@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

   The difference in part is from American (foreign) pressure --
   Japanese regulations different from the US, etc. (and more strict)
   are often condemned as trade-barriers.

   I can't speak of rice, but as for lemons (and other citrus fruits?),
   it is even the case that chemicals domestically banned (or restricted)
   in the US are allowed for export products (TCZ-something? sorry, I can't
   verify this right now).  It is common knowledge in Japan not to use the
   peels of imported lemons, etc. as in marmalade -- be this folklore or not.

Good point. I was going to raise this subject if the discussion begins
to cover other produce such as apples, cherries, and oranges. I don't
think this is folklore as far as the chemical used for the citrus
fruit including Sunkist Orange (tm?) is concerned. The folklore in my
hometown [Shimizu where there were/are many orange orchards] was that
the farmers set aside a lot where they didn't use too much chemical on
the orange and used the oranges from the lot for making marmalade and
stuff.  Clever.

   A few weeks ago, a Japanese consumers' group filed a lawsuit to apply
   the same (domestic) regulations to imports.

Makes sense. I would rather see countries adopt the most stringent
regulation rather than the most lax one from the different regulations
of different countries. I understand that EC has problems concerning
these regulations, so it is probably not easy even between two
countries to agree on. YET, I think we ought to care what chemicals are
in the food we eat.

   -Yuzuru Hiraga

Chiaki Ishikawa
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