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From: beam@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: mr floppy cd
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:38:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:peg:993100022:000:135
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!beam    Aug 25 20:38:00 1992


i hear that the floppy boys are at it again.
has anyone heard the cd and be willing to share their joy with the net?

cheers, tim :-)
From: andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew_John DISSELDORP)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: U2 to tour Oz - Hunters and Collectors to support?
Date: 30 Aug 92 12:52:16 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia


	U2 are meant to be touring Australia sometime between late November 1992
and late March 1993. Having recieved 2nd hand info from a person who spoke to 
polygram records promotions (Would you believe them? (Polygram market U2 in Oz))
This is the current story. Planning to play 1 outdoor show in each state. In 
Melbourne it will be at Waverly Park (VFL Park). In Sydney it will be at 
Eastern Creek Raceway. Other venues are unknown at this stage. Polygram
are placing a petition in record stores from this Tuesday (1st Sep) to get
U2 to play 2 shows in each state. 

	PLEASE SIGN THIS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE U2 IN AUSTRALIA

	Polygram are trying to get Hunters and Collectors to tour with U2 
in Oz as a support band., This is at Bono's request. H&C were meant to 
tour with U2 on the love town tour, but H&C didn't want to play immeadiately
before BB King, who H&C felt was like a cabaret act, which would take away 
from the band. 
	
	On Saturday I asked Mark Seymour of H&C if they would be touring
with U2. His reply was "No Crowded house will be...no only joking. Don't get
us wrong. Its not like we don't like U2, its just tough playing in front 
of 50,000 screaming (*) U2 fans. Sorta like pissing into the wind"

(*) - This kind of indicates that they knew about U2 playing outdoor shows
in Australia, and that crowds would be big. 

	Mark Seymour didn't show suprise at the question (I.E. that he knew
about doing some shows with U2). The crowd were shocked, particularly the 
teenage girlies down the front :-). 

	Final word - This is a double I would love to see. Quite possibly my
two favourite bands on the one gig.

Comments Anyone.......

Andrew	

PS For any u2 fans out there - there is a u2 mailing list. Mail me for details.
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Nu-Music and unsigned bands
Date: 30 Aug 92 09:50:23 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

geoff@alsvid.une.edu.au (Geoff Hill) writes:
>I notice this thread seems dedicated to giving Studio 52 a hard time (for
>whatever reason). Just to change the subject a little, why has no-one
>mentioned AUSMUSIC and their FRESHTRACKS series of compilations. To be
>honest I'm not sure how their system works but from what I've heard, it
>works a little like this;
>1.You write and record some original material as a demo.
>2. You send your demo to AUSMUSIC
>3. They have some way of determining which are the BEST demos they
>receive.
>4. If you're lucky enough to be included your music gets onto the
>FRESHTRACKS CD and is distributed to Public Radio stations , record
>companies and who knows where else.

All the above is correct. I did send demos to Ausmusic. Unfortunately
they weren't selected. My main complaint about the system is that it
prefers mainstream aussie (caucasian) rock acts. We being an Asian
synthesizer band, I couldn't really have expected success. 

>I assume there must be something in it for AUSMUSIC (nuthin's free is it)
>perhaps Brian could expand/correct me. But it appears to be another
>avenue of getting your music to the masses.

Ausmusic's only benefit is that they can use the songs for promotional
purposes. They don't extract any contract. Only the winners' music
can be used. Ausmusic's logo will appear on all copies sent out to
various stations. I believe Ausmusic is made up mainly of people from
the major record companies. This is about the only thing I know of
which helps unsigned bands and is done by major companies. I can't
comment on its success so far.

Selection criteria include live appearances. This makes it a bit difficult
for studio bands.

Paul

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: gifford@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Jonathan Gifford)
Subject: Re: U2 to tour Oz - Hunters and Collectors to support?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 05:56:30 GMT

cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:

>	Bono is the greatest living songwriter.
>	P'raps even better than Billy Joel!       

How could you forget Bruce Springsteen!

It's just a pity none of them are women, since everyone knows women
are much better singers than men...

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From: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: techno dance clubs
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:57:13 GMT
Reply-To: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au
Distribution: aus
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia


When I go out "clubbing" I like to go and dance and that's about it.
I don't mind dancing to "popular" dance music, but I much prefer
dancing to techno stuff.

In Melbourne, I know of one place which has a "pick up free" pure
tecno dance music club, that's the Mansion on Queens Rd. on Friday
nights.

Now the problem is that I hadn't been there for several weeks when I
went there last Friday. I walked upstairs to the dance area, and the
whole place looked like a Jane Fonda workout session. All these kids
(about 80% < 18) equally spaced out and facing in one direction,
"doing their own thing", which inevitabley looked the same as the next
person. This didn't really thrill me, to say the least.

Question: Does anyone know of any good dance clubs around Australia
which have good techo style music and aren't totally dominated by kids
which are under 18 ? I know that there are some good places in Perth,
I've heard of "The Firm" & "DC's" there.

Email responses to me and I'll sumarise them and post them to the net
in about a week or when answers stop dribbling in :-)

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From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Re: Nu-Music and unsigned bands
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 07:56:20 GMT

brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
>The bands pay roughly $750 for this.

Does this include the cost of recording the song at Studio 52? Some
people I know went on the CD for $400. They provided the master. I
don't think it did them any good! Come to think of it nothing would:-)

>The "Elastic Tea Party" CD which "The Ergot Derivative", "Breather Hole",
>"The Inked Factor" put out themselves independently cost each band $600.  The
>CD belongs to _them_!

Too right! Do it yourselves people, it doesn't cost that much. In
Sydney there are reasonable (not great) 24 track studios available for
less than $30 per hour! This sort of price was unheard of several
years ago. If you can stay up late you can get into good quality
studios for around $50/hr. Rhino will even give deals to people who
beg :-)

If you have your shit together *before* going in to the studio and
have a fast engineer who likes the music (or at least doesn't act like
they don't like it) you can get tracks down very quickly (I'm a firm
believer of "live" studio recordings). Say around 2hrs to set things
up and start to get sounds, another 1hr or so to warm up and 2 to 3hrs
to put down backing tracks. The number of tracks depends on how well
you've got it together. Then you can send the drummer out to get the
beer and pizza and spend the rest of the time doing overdubs (or whatever)!
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From: baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Baden de Bari)
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: CHART: Top 10 singles -> The U.K.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 03:14:36 CST
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

 
                yes... would it be possible to get any rave through you 
,... sorry I don't have much time, I'm about to be dropped carrier on, 
due to lack of time left in my account... Please let me know if we can 
come to some arrangement for me to recieve RAVE!!!! (willing to pay... of 
course!)
 
                >>Baden<<


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From: t9014155@phillip.edu.au (T-BONE)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: MMM
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:28:30 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <9224114.17695@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER) writes:
> In article <3021@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
>>	Just while we're having a sensible discussion on radio:
> *grin*
> yeah, they are consistant,  exept for big Billy on Sunday nights :)

Billy's show is the best thing about MMM - is there a radio station that plays
a show along the same lines but not restricted to 3 hours a week?

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From: gifford@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Jonathan Gifford)
Subject: Re: MMM
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:49:36 GMT

carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER) writes:

>In article <6311@otc.otca.oz> brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes:
>>MMM are a complete and utter JOKE!

>perhaps,  but those of us who like Rock, as opposed to sampled copies
>find it often quite satisfactory.

You find it to be a satisfactory joke? Oh well, humour is in the
"mind" of the beholder, I guess. Personally, I prefer radio stations
where I laugh at the content, rather than the concept.

>>I really feel like ringing up their advocacy line and giving them both
>>barrels.  They should be sued for false representation.

>and their response ...go listen to JJJ you moron :)

See my other posting about commercial DJs...

>>Lite 'n' Easy MMM would be more appropriate.
>>No wonder I prefer JJJ.

>ahh, JJJ, radio for arts students and the imbecellic..  :)

ahh, MMM, radio for engineers and the prematurely senile.. :)

>I just so love those pseudo-original bands (PWEI etc) that 
>seems to be JJJ's main fare...  calling that drivel "from the 90's
>is more dishonest than MMM ....

The problem is, of cousre, that young people today are just sooooo
unoriginal. Everyone knows that everything interesting in music
happened with Miller/Buddy/Elvis/Beatles/Floyd/Pistols (pick your
favorite era)! Now all they do is regurgitate all the great songs of
the past, using (gack! uurgh!) samplers. Jeeez, at least those rappers
used to use records, even if they did only play a couple of seconds,
and played it at the wrong speed, and backwards (see, even there they
were beaten to the punch by the Beatles).

God, I don't know, why can't they all just realise that there is no
point trying to improve on M/B/E/B/F/P, and go out and get a real job,
and a decent hair cut.

>what the hell, I like a good flame war ...  :)

> Dochoel Dienve                           carl@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au
Aha, proof of my claim about MMM------------------------^

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From: gifford@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Jonathan Gifford)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: MMM
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:20:51 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
>	How can that same guy always be DJing MMM (and any other 
>successful commercial station) everytime I have the misfortune of
>pausing the dail near it.
>	There is no way I'm gunna beleive that there are even two
>guys - little loan a swag of them that have the same offensivley
>deep and moronic a voice.  Well even if you are willing to beleive
>that is possible - how could you possibly explain all these people
>having an equally apalling sense of humour!

It's a well known fact that in order to get a job in commercial radio,
you have to have gonads which occasionally wrap themselves around your
knees in order to achieve the required "tone" of voice. Less well
known, but easily supported by some rather basic empirical
observation, is that you have to have a lobotomy as well. There are
two reasons for this - firstly, so you can crack "jokes" which even
Dan Quayle wouldn't think was amusing, and secondly, so you can
empathise with the listeners. The hypergonadextension and lobotomy
combined produce exactly the symptoms you describe above.

Hope this helps

jon

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From: stephen@cc.uow.edu.au (Stephen Nicholson)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Female voices are the best!!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:21:39 GMT
Organization: The Nightmare

s913575@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Matt Fenton) writes:

>pjordan@rp.CSIRO.AU (Patrick Jordan) writes:

>>My favourites are Angie Hart from Frente, Becky Barnett from Strange
>>Alchemy, and the girl from the Sundays. Also lets not forget Cyndi
>>Lauper, and Aretha Franklin, amongst a lot of other great female singers.

>Hey, you forgot the best of all - Sinead O'Connor

Indeed, how could we forget Sinead? Some other female vocalists of note
(IMHO) are
	KaTe Bush, Tori Amos, Marie Brennan from Clannad,
	Denney Stanway (from folk band Rua).
	I also happen to quite like Michelle Shocked's voice.
	Enya's voice is not outstanding, but still very nice.

Then again, I'm not much of a Top-40/Mainstream music listener.

>Matt Fenton.

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From: rxkand@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Hall)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Tommy and Who Cover band
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:54:39 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

>Just a quick question, how many of you would be willing or know people who
>would be willing to see a stage version of Tommy and/or a band that could
>play Who material from any album on request? I'm trying to gauge market
>response to the concept before approaching prospective backers. So, what
>does the collective net-consciousness reckon, hmm?

>Thanks,

>Shane. 



not more f.....g, s..t, tribute bands


  
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: carol@ee.uts.edu.au (Carol Gibson)
Subject: Re: Falling Joys - lacking charisma & stage presence?
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:39:30 GMT

I've seen the Falling Joys plenty of times over the past 4 or 5
years, and I have never known them to play a bad show. No they don't
jump around like wankers, they tend to be very understated, even a
little shy, but they have always been excellent.

Someone asked if the Joys aren't used to large venues - not true, they've
played at most of the larger venues in Sydney on numerous occassions. 
If they played badly in Melbourne it may be that they've been doing too
much lately, what with yet another release to promote...

The Falling Joys have certainly never been a band to see when you want
energy and arrogance, but if you'd like to see one of Australia's most
consistently high quality bands do their stuff then the Joys are *well*
worth the effort.....  and anyway, I would've thought Suzi and Pat would
provide enough visual stimulation for anyone ;-)


	Carol

Newsgroups: aus.music
From: u9161910@cs.uow.edu.au (Gareth William Omeara)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: AUSSIE TOP FORTY COUNTDOWNS
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:00:10 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:

>I think the stations won't compromise their homogeneity to put on an
>alternative song. They are dedicated to the percentage of the listening
>population who DIDN'T buy Died Pretty or Ed Kuepper. See, if they started
>to play songs which hit the charts but were alternative, they would risk
>losing their audience to the other mainstream stations which DIDN'T play
>these songs.

 But the fact that these artists made the charts indicates that people
 do like them and if they were played on the mainstream stations then
 those listeners would probably also buy the album.


>This audience IMHO consist of non-discerning listeners who
>would rather hear a homogeneous playlist but will not admit it. Neither
>does the FOX which keeps spouting all its shit about having so much
>variety (and keeps these people thinking that they do have varied tastes!).

 I don't think that they are all non-discerning listeners, it's just
 that they've never heard anything else and so are used to the homo-
 genity of the playlists.If the radio stations started playing Died
 Pretty & Ed Kuepper then their listeners would become used to 
 listening to alternative music.


 Gareth.
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From: pmccann@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au (Paul McCann)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: "Dirty" Queenslanders
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:15:55 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Adelaide University.
In-reply-to: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au's message of 12 Aug 92 23:34:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.233439.27458@mel.dit.csiro.au> 
brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:

>   Queensland authorities have banned the 'dirty' photo inside their current
>   album's CD tray.  They say 'if that photo was in a magazine, it would be 
>   censored' (is that true - queenslanders?)

And they're not the only ones that are thrilling themselves by exposing
the deranged print behind the black plastic mask. News services in 
Adelaide last week carried the story ("children could be exposed to.."
and all the usual cliches that come barrelling out during such pogroms),
at least one of them using it as their chosen item for the 8.30 Newsbreak. 

Anything for a rise. The album itself is infinitely more interesting than
the furore in a furore-cup surrounding the included photo. 

p.s. for anyone fond of Sonic Youth, the Pavement album "Slanted and Enchanted"
is highly recommended. (Seems to be available only on import as yet; matador
records OLE 038-2   if that means anything to anyone ) Not as dirty as dirty,
not as sticky as goo, not as long as daydream nation, not related to sister,
not as anti-love as evol, not as scary as halloween, not as tedious as sonic
death and not at all like confusion is sex. A real review may follow.

My other favourite aural influx just now is the Boo Radley's "Everything's
Alright Forever" (Creation), which is like a favourable deformation of  
MBV's recordings. Funny to read that the Boo Radley's are playing down
the MBV influence, asserting that they were more into Dinosaur Jr at the
time they recorded to the album. The *sharpness* of the album 
certainly reflects that: there's none of the hanging around a single theme 
per song that makes listening to Loveless a bit of an effort. Still, they've
incorporated a lot of stuff from MBV, so the fact that the latter are 
somewhat peeved at the lack of recognition afforded them by the former is
understandable. Try tracks 1,2 and 5 if you're fond of listening to things
in shops before purchasing.
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: CHART: Top 10 singles -> The U.K.
Organization: James Cook University
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 11:04:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.012949.14803@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jamie Scuglia) writes:
>            /=============================================\
>           || The TOP 10 SINGLES in the U.K.              ||

>7. (NEW) THIS CHARMING MAN - The Smiths
    ^^^^^ ???

Yay, The Smiths forever!  The guy at the local record store told me this
was being released in Aus next week.  Anyone think it will make number 7 :-)

(Sorry, I'll crawl back in my cave now :-) )

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@manta.mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May, 723 Swanston St Carlton)
Subject: Re: Queen cover band in Melbourne
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Distribution: melb
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 06:52:07 GMT

[I forgot to add that if you _really_ want to see them they play at
the Sarah Sands in Melb sometimes]

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From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Cut+Paste (wasRe: Sampled "Art" (was Re: MMM)
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:26:07 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)


In article <1992Sep2.235729.29331@mel.dit.csiro.au>, brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
|> Many 'artists' have said that the progression of 'ideas' (or
|> movements) starts off in the visual arts, moves to writing and (finally)
|> to music. (i'm sure it gets to theatre/film/dance too - but haven't thought..)
|> 
|> 'cut + paste' visual art was happening shortly after the turn of the century
|> 'cut + paste' writing started in the 50s'
|> 'cut + paste' music started with sampling technology (right?)

Wrong Brian!  Actually, WS Burroughs started experimenting with cut up tapes in 
the 50's, it just took until the 80's to reach 'popular' music.

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