HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mahoney@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: RARPD problem, Sun3-60, SunOS3.5
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:18:14 GMT
Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens
Originator: mahoney@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu

I've got a strange problem.  I'm trying to boot a Sun3/60 over the
network and the rarpd request seems to hang up, with the following message:

>b le()
Boot: le(0,0,0)
Requesting Internet address for  8:0:20:0:52:0
/


But it worked (ie, got its inet addr just before Xmas, like so:

>b le()
Boot: le(0,0,0)
Using IP Address 137.201.162.137 = 89C9A289
\
tftp: time-out.
Booting from tftp server at 137.201.162.151 = 89C9A297
...etc...


Unfortunately, I'm also stuck with SunOS 3.5, and the man pages are pretty
poor on booting.  The boot man page mentions the "RARP request containing
its Ethernet address.  A server responds with the Client's Internet 
address."  Is this server a generic server on the network somewhere?
Was there a server somewhere that was on and got turned off?
SunOS 3.5 also uses the /etc/ethers file, but with a quirk:
/etc/ethers is (apparently) created by the Sun Setup program
and its creation date must be the original date.  (I tried to edit it
at one point and needed to change the date back to Nov 19 1990 if I wanted
the boot program to recognize it.)  Eg:

% ls -lc /etc/ethers
-rw-rw-r--            Nov 19 1990   /etc/ethers
% cat /etc/ethers
#
# These lines added by the Sun Setup Program
#
8:0:20:0:52:0   prbterah3
#
# End of lines added by the Sun Setup Program
#

Also, ifconfig gives me this:
% /etc/ifconfig le0
le0: 137.201.162.137 netmask 255.255.252.0 flags=63<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUN>

which seems correct.

I have had rarpd running on a few other hosts, but I'm not sure if it
is doing anything, eg:

% /etc/rarpd le prbterah3


So, can anyone let me know where the RARPD request may be hanging up
and what server might need to be restarted?  (I can start up a daemon
on either another Sun3/60 or a SPARC IPC, which is the target server
here anyway.)  Any other insight into the dense forest of (SunOS 3.5)
network booting would be appreciated.

If possible, please respond via email (below).

Thanks,
--Dale Mahoney
  dmahoney@vax.micron.com
-- 
    Keith Mahoney                             Ohio University
    5939 Dailey Rd.                           mahoney@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
    Akron, OH 44319
    (216) 882-5584 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold)
Subject: monitoring tools?
Reply-To: era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold)
Organization: Nat'l Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR); Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:04:07 GMT

I'm interested in knowing what people out there have to say about monitoring
tools for large numbers of (primarily Sun) systems.

The various departments of this organization use the pay-to-play SunNet
Manager (Sun) and SharpShooter (Qualix) utilities.  We've also heard about
NetMetrix (Metrix Network Systems) and NetScope (Qualix).  We also use PD
tools like watcher, tcpdump, etherfind, etc.

Questions:

1) What tools are there out there other than those I mentioned?
2) Who has clear preferences for one of these tools as compared to another?
   Am particularly interested in bypassing the SunNet Mgr learning curve.
3) Can anyone point me to published articles and/or previous newsgroup
   summaries on comparison of such products?

Please reply directly to me ... will summarize if any info is forthcoming.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: commercial backup utilities
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:27:51 GMT

>    we've recently have obtained an eval copy of BUDTOOL for the suns...
>    any comments on budtool???

For me, the fact that its name ends with "tool" speaks volumes.

I'm going to evaluate something that seems to call itself both GTBackup
and GURUTAPE.  Call Alida at 201-384-0080.

>    another problem that i have is:  how does one "eval" this type of tool
>    with fully implementing it ?  that is, if you use it for backups, then
>    you have to use it to recover.

With any luck at all, such products can be configured to leave the dumpdates
file alone.

There's a tradeoff.  Legato's Networker uses its own tape format, but
this can be a big advantage, because you can have multiple clients backing
up to the same server/tape drive at once.  Thus, if you have 20 clients with
stuff that you care to back up, you can slap it onto one tape or set of tapes.
Restores, of course, then must be done with Networker.

The fax I have about GTBackup says that it uses dump's format and thus can
allow restore with /etc/restore, but I'm not yet sure how contention and
scheduling are handled.

Now, if only Sun's dump could do the right thing at EOT... 
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From: ferizs@neuro.duke.edu (Feri Zsuppa'n)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Dial-in modem setup continues
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:03:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Originator: ferizs@neuro.neuro.duke.edu

Hi,

I am trying to set up a Hayes Smartmodem 9600 on Sparc1+/ttya with dial-in
capability. It works fine when I dial out(usually with 2400b), but I always 
get garbage displayed in the terminal session(vt100) AFTER a couple of lines 
appearing on the screen. This happens ONLY when I dial in with lower than
9600 baud. When the connection is made(I can test it out by dialing from
another machine), I see the modem switching to low speed(HD is off). I use
error-control mode and Xon/Xoff flow control. Is it possible, that the
terminal speed is 9600? And if it is, how to adjust to incoming calls of 
different speed? Isn't this one gettytab entry is for? I would appreciate 
any of your suggestions. 


--Feri(ferizs@neuro.duke.edu)


Here is my setup:

modem(the rest is default): E0,L1,V0, &D3, &C1, &K4, &Q5, &S0

ttytab:

ttyd0	"/usr/etc/getty D9600"		dialup		on  remote
#cua0	"/usr/etc/getty D9600"		unknown		off remote secure

gettytab:

D9600|Fast-Dial-9600:\
	:nx=D2400:tc=9600-baud:
D2400|Fast-Dial-2400:\
	:nx=D1200:tc=2400-baud:
3|D1200|Fast-Dial-1200:\
	:nx=D300:fd@:tc=1200-baud:
5|D300|Fast-Dial-300:\
	:nx=D9600:tc=300-baud:
From: brownrigg@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: How many X-Terminals on a Sun 10?
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:47:04 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Anybody have a feel for how many X-terminal sessions a Sparc10 can support,
delivering reasonable response time?  Let's say the application is a 
2D CAD (actually, a GIS) with an even mix of computation and I/O.

Also, what is a "reasonable" amount of memory to have for this?  64MB? 128MB, 
more?

Any insight into this would be appreciated.

Rick Brownrigg
Kansas Geological Survey
From: d0bpl@dtek.chalmers.se (Patrik Larsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Backup program recommendation needed
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:05:44 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden


      Hi all!

   I am a PC-user who during the last half year has "accidently" been
a system administrator for our network with a SUN IPX as a server.

   One problem I am having is the difficulty to store things on tape. To
do a simple backup is no problem. The problem is when I have a bunch of
files and want to put them on tape. After I have put some files on tape,
I want to put some more, and then some more, and so on. Of course I
also need to restore some files now and then.

   This very procedure with adding additional
files on a single tape is, for me :-), very scary. If I use tar, and
mt -fsf to keep track of where I am, I am very affraid to overwrite something.

   My big question is:  

      is there a program which handels all this for me automaticly, without
me worring about how many times I have added files?

   I read in UnixWorld dec 92 about backup software. From there it seemed
like Lone-tar was pretty good. Anybody got experience with that?


   Any help is appriciated! Thanks!

      // Patrik

BTW, I am using a 5 GB Hexabyte streamer to backup on. Sun OS 4.1.2, OW 3.
From: bob@sna.co.umist.ac.uk (bob nutter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: ld.so problem in 4.1.2?
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:14:07 GMT
Organization: UMIST Computation, PO Box 88, Manchester, UK

Hi,

Has anyone noticed any starnge behaviour with dynamic libraries in 4.1.2? All
of a sudden I found that it would not find a library (libXm.so.2.11), though
of course it was there. ldconfig and rebooting had no effect, so I put an
earlier minor revision in there as well, ldconfig again, and voila'! There it
was. This looked suspicious, so I removed the lower revision, and merely
touched the empty file, ran ldconfig, and there it was! It just won't see it
without the dummy lower revision. I can't imagine this is a motif problem.

Obviously I can live with this, but has anyone else seen this sort of thing
or can they offer an explanation?

bob
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: root@splat.aarnet.EDU.AU (Conan the System Operator)
Subject: Re: Compuserve's Internet Address
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:10:03 GMT

ddo@wsun2.larc.nasa.gov (Dale Ohmann) writes:
>The problem comes with internet names that our name resolver can't 
>resolve.  One example is "compuserve.com".  A user's address would 
>be of the format: "12345.123@compuserve.com".  On another brand 
>machine I can send mail to Compuserve.  On the Sun that I'm 
>configuring I can't.  The mail comes back as "deferred".  Actually,
>in the mail spool directory, the message is 
>"Deferred: Name Server Failure for compuserve.com".

>A quick fix might be to find out what is the Internet address for
>Compuserve is and add it to the local host table.

As far as I can remeber compuserve.com has only a mail gateway, not
a tcpip connection, so an ip address might be a little hard to come
up with.

On an off chance, you might try nslookup of compuserve.com.

Or failing all that, tey changing your sendmail.cf to a sub system,
and use a mailhost that knows about compuserve.com.

Dave      tucker@splat.aarnet.edu.au
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Solaris 2.1 - /dev/bd.off screwed up - ps broken!
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:01:00 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>It seems that the Solaris version of ps uses the file system to find process
>information.

Sure does - in particular, it uses the "/proc" file system, which should
also be what debuggers use, and various other clients can use it as
well....

>The file /dev/bd.off seems to play some role here.

*Some* role, although I've no idea what role it's supposed to play in
anything, given that on our 2.1 machine...

>Can anyone tell me what is going on here, or at least tell me what 
>/dev/bd.off is supposed to point to?

...it appears to be a symbolic link to "/dev/term/b", formerly known as
"/dev/ttyb".

It may, in fact, play *no* role in tracking processes down; its role in
"ps"s life may be as a "device that's potentially a terminal", so that
"ps" checks to see whether it's a process's controlling terminal or not.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: dave@auspost.com.au (Dave Cole)
Subject: NIS and mail
Organization: Australia Post
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:48:07 GMT

I changed my NIS domain name the other day and now mail on all
machines except the NIS master is screwing up the domain name.

Output from Mail:-

/home/grunge/dave% Mail -v dave
Subject: Hello
Yup
EOT
/home/grunge/dave% Trying 192.40.24.64...  connected.
220 guk.auspost.com.au 5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 Sendmail is ready at Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:31:53 +1100
>>HELO dross.com.au
250 Hello dross, why do you call yourself dross.com.au?
>>MAIL FROM:<dave>
250 <dave>... Sender ok
>>RCPT TO:<dave>
250 <dave>... Recipient ok
>>DATA
354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
>>.
250 Ok
>>QUIT
221 guk.auspost.com.au closing connection

My NIS domain name used to be 'auspost', I changed it to be 'auspost.com.au'.

Has anyone had this problem before?  If yes, do you know how to fix it?

Thanks in advance - Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: bri@athena.mit.edu (Brian D. Carlstrom)
Subject: Naming Server
Organization: mit
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:59:20 GMT

tring to get name server up, or just name service really.
mit has it all setup, so i think its all ok. nslookup
works. how come telnet cant look anything up?

-bri

replys if you please

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mea@polaris.utu.fi (Matti Aarnio)
Subject: Re: Sun 10's and their SCSI bus.
Keywords: wimpy SCSI
Organization: University of Turku, Computing Centre
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 10:36:35 GMT

kwan@netcom.com (Kwan-Seng Low) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.191513.11724@ll.mit.edu> yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
>>	We just got a SUN 10 and it seems that whatever order
>>	we put our SCSI devices in, we can put approximately
>>	3-4 devices on.  After that, we get SCSI errors.
>>
>>	We have concluded that the SCSI bus is wimpy.  That it
>>	either cannot handle the disks, or it is electrically
>>	wimpy.
>>
>>	Has anyone had any of these SCSI problems?
>>-- 
>>	Alan Yasutovich

>I was told by a technician that Sparc10 using a slightly different SCSI-
>standard. It's SCSI2 indeed, but it's using differential SCSI, which will
>limited the old style (pre-Sparc10) SCSI device to 6 ft. long, physically.
> Either you need to get the differential SCSI disk or put a active terminator
>at the SCSI end.
>Correct me if I'm wrong, it's only a heard-say....

  Differential ?  Must be quite an interesting version of differential bus
then.

  Default kernel accepts SCSI devices with 'targets' 0 .. 3 as disks,
4-5 as tapes and 6 as CD-ROM.  You must recompile your kernel to have
other configuration.

  Original poster does not state, what devices on what addresses, and
has he made proper line termination at the end of the SCSI-cable, or
what...

  I have classical SCSI-busses, and differential busses on my hosts,
and at least that differential adapter will refuce to operate at all,
if I connect classical device into its bus.  It is an "all differential,
or no operation" -type controller.

  Cavet Emptor:  I haven't seen Sun's new diff-scsi-controllers, if
they can operate with classical devices, or not...  Very  least it
would be quite "unusual" controller...

>Kwan

	/Matti Aarnio <mea@utu.fi>
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Name server setup problems on Sun 3/50
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:08:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ


>The command 'nslookup' works fine but ping, rlogin, telnet, etc
>don't work.

SunOS believes that you should only be able to look up hosts via DNS
through yp.  Get resolv+ from wiretap.spies.com and rebuild your shared C
library to use DNS correctly.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: welch@sacral.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arun Welch)
Subject: Hooking up an ethernet printer
Originator: welch@sacral.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: OSU-LAIR
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:45:50 GMT


We're upgrading our aging laser printer, and one of the options we can
get on the new printer (HP 4m) we're looking at is an ethernet card. I'm
pretty familiar with hooking up printers through the serial line, but
mystified on how to deal with the ethernet option. Is it possible to
go this route, and will we see a throughput speedup? Most of the stuff
we print falls in the 1- 10page range and the occasional dissertation, and
a lot of it is graphics.

...arun
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Lisp Systems Programmer, Lab for AI Research, Ohio State University
welch@cis.ohio-state.edu
From: scott@memex.co.uk (Scott Williamson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Printing to an X.25 terminal server.
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:39:02 GMT
Organization: Memex Information Systems Ltd, East Kilbrde, Scotland

I have to print from a Sparcstation 2 with SunNet X.25 to a printer
connected to a PAD port on a terminal server. Is this as simple as
writing a filter which opens an X.25 socket to the appropriate
sub-address and dumps the file down it? Is there any public domain
software which does this already?

Thanks

Scott Williamson		scott@memex.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
Subject: Location of Patch Files?
Reply-To: motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:31:05 GMT

Is there a location on the Internet that
houses Sun patch files?  In particular, I 
am interested in finding patch 100191 that
relates to problems with dbx.

Thanks for any help, John 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.shell
From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: KSH on Sun
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:52:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.143902.16634@news.columbia.edu> jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim) writes:
"I have Sun Sparc stations running SunOS Release 4.1.1.  They only came with
"Bourne and C shells, and I would like to get Korn Shell.  I asked Sun
"Support and they told me they don't have it for my version of SunOS and
"I'll have to look elsewhere.  
"
"- Does anyone know where I can get/buy Korn Shell for Sun?

you can buy src from the at&t toolchest; edu prices are pretty low.
[i'll bet *someone* at columbia has it already!]  sorry, dunno the
phone -- we don't use the chest internally.

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a_d_hay@att.com	|	zone in the darkened room at the night gallery	       |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: gord@jericho.uucp (Gord Wait)
Subject: Re: Uh-oh, Solaris 2.1 is here...
Organization: S-MOS Systems, Inc. (Vancouver Design Center)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:42:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.030759.19751@spang.Camosun.BC.CA> morley@suncad.camosun.bc.ca (Mark Morley) writes:
>Ok, so I get the Solaris 2.1 CD the other day, along with the AnswerBook
>CD.  Within the short time I've been "listening in" on the SUN newsgroups,
>I've read that several people seem to be balking at making the move (from
>4.1.2, etc)...
>
>It's my understanding that the move essentially brings us from a BSD
>flavored environment to a SVR4 one.  Is this true?  Kinda true?  Not true?
>If so, I assume that the file system will change somewhat (ie: where
>certain directories are located, etc).
>
>There came with the CD only a *very* thin pamphlet about installing it.
>Needless to say I'm a little worried about botching the install.  Do any
>of you who have actually done it already have any tips/gotchas/suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>MARK
>
>====================================================================
> Mark Morley, UNIX/SUN Administrator     NET: morley@camosun.bc.ca
> Camosun College - Interurban Campus     TEL: (604) 370-4601
> 4461 Interurban Road  Room 143-Tech     FAX: (604) 370-3660
> Victoria,   B.C.  Canada    V8X 3X1


My copy is sitting on the shelf getting lonely. None of the apps we
use on the sun support Solaris 2.1. That seems to be the number one
question. OS 4.1.3 is probably the last rev I'll install for a long
time... (Our Servers are up to 4.1.3, some clients are still at 4.1.1)

Gord Wait
-- 
Gord Wait 	SMOS Systems Vancouver Design Centre
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From: sasurguine@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: XNTP on SUN IPX
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:06:38 GMT

I need info from anyone who has run XNTP on their Suns.  I am currently
attempting to run XNTP on an IPX which grabs its clocking info from a
Micro Vax running NTP.  I have attempted to set up my config file on the
Sun with one Peer only < The Micro Vax >, and have tried 2 separate versions
of this config file:

1)  Peer Address
2)  Peer Address  Version 1

Neither of these configurations seem to work.  I shouldn't need to alter
any info for any ntp config files on the Vax should I?  My understanding
is that NTP clocks for 1 machine, whereas XNTP grabs and makes use of the
info from the machine running NTP...

Any Insight Is GREATLY appreciated here 

Scott A. Surguine
From: olson@endor.uucp (Eric Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Out of kernel inodes?
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:40:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1993Jan11.204050.11008
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

I have one machine that reports no inodes structures free in pstat -T:

(vesta:~) 102 %pstat -T
241/582 files
187/187 inodes
 70/138 processes
22744/195836 swap

Why isn't this machine reporting "no more inodes"?  What allocates a
kernel inode structure?

The machine seems to be running fine.

-Eric


Eric K. Olson                 Internet:   olson@endor.harvard.edu
72A Lowell St.
Lexington, MA  02173
(617) 861-9728
From: berliner@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM (Brian Berliner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun won't fix 4.1.1 so Backup Copilot works properly
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:55:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

In <janet.726370636@dunnart> janet@cs.uwa.oz.au (Janet Jackson) writes:
>Our next upgrade will probably be to Solaris 2.1 (SunOS 5.1) since it seems
>that's our "only option" (now there's a new oxymoron!) if we want to use
>any of Sun's newer boxes.  Does anyone know if and when Backup Copilot will
>be available for Solaris 2.1?

Backup Copilot is available *now* for Solaris 2.1.  The product has changed
names, however, and is now called Online: Backup 2.0.  I believe that
existing Backup Copilot customers that are paying for support get the
upgrade to Online: Backup 2.0 for free.

	-Brian
From: pln@egret0.Stanford.EDU (Patrick L. Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Need Sun's X fonts in BDF form.
Date: 10 Jan 1993 01:38:33 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Reply-To: pln@egret0.Stanford.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: egret0.stanford.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jens Petersohn (jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu) wrote:
: sanner@track.physics.usfca.edu (Operator) writes:
: : 
: : We need to run some of your xview applications on our DECStation 5000.
: : 
: : Unfortunately it does not have any of the lucida-sans fonts or
: : the olcursor or olglyph fonts so I can not run any OL apps.
: : 
: : I figure if I can get the bdf files of these fonts I can compile them
: : on my DECStation.
: : 
: : Does anyone know where I can gets these fonts or another way around
: : this typical Sun font problem?
: : 
: 
: You might want to investigate the OW 3.0 convertfont utility program.
: 
: : 
I suffered through this a while ago.  I learned three useful facts.
1.  Sun's convertfont has a bug.  Its output files say that the fonts
have zero size unless you explicitly specify a size on the command line.
2.  The bdf files already exist in $OPENWINHOME/share/src/fonts.
3.  You can get the fonts already compiled in DEC format by ftp
from export.lcs.mit.edu in the /contrib directory.
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