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From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.herbalism
Organization: Memes-R-Us
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:11:57 GMT
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georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:

>Hey, take it easy, "Wolfe of the Den." The purpose of this thread is for
>people to cast votes, not to start a flame. You make it sound as if people
>aren't entitled to an opinion on the proposal, unless their opinion is
>consistent with yours. That makes you the oppressor, not me.

Hardly. You strongly objected. OK. You're alone, so far. Yet you are
threatening to try to get Wolfe fired ( a common tactic of newbies to the
Net ). Since it's alt.whatever, there is no formal _vote_, per se, only
a call to let people know it's going to happen soon unless there is a good
reason not to.

The only reason I've seen from you is a fear that people won't know how to
handle their new-found freedom. That, IMHO, is a bad attitude.

>>	Individuals are still allowed to make their own choices, despite
>>the AMA and the governments' attempts to limit their freedom.

>Yes, but this will change within a year, with respect to availability
>of herbs for medicinal purposes, when enforcement of new F.D.A. regulations
>begin.

Au contraire, my little fascist. Plants, you see, grow naturally. And this
information is widely available. For instance, just about everyone knows
that pennyroyal, an herb, can be used to induce abortions, when used right.
Just like RU486, the morning-after pill, or aspirin, it can be used for
good, or misused for bad, results. This information is centuries old. It
was my mom who first mentioned it to me ...

Nothing the FDA can do will change this state of affairs. And you can't search
every woman's luggage for RU486. I'll bet there's a black market warming up
already, and this will give the Feds an excuse to outlaw feminism, but it
won't work. Nature > Law, mon dude.

>However, on second thought, go ahead and form your newsgroup.

You can't stop him ... but thanks for 'permission'.

>You're a real sucker. You're the kind of consumer the health food stores
>and other perpetrators of herbal-medicine quackery love. You spend
>your money on their over-priced products, and you get no results in
>return. If you would look at it from this point of view, you would be angry
>at these people. It is a very sleazy, but profitable business, and
>that is precisely the reason it is going to be eradicated by the
>FDA because consumers like you aren't wise enough to realize it is
>a scam.

There are scammers, sure, probably in Maryland, but here in San Francisco,
you'll find a lot of little, shrivelled-up Russian women buying groceries
in food coops, delighted to get fresh, organic vegetables ... and a lot of
the customers are Jewish, looking for kosher foods that aren't contaminated
by the bug sprays that the FDA has given the nod to. We have educated our-
-selves, and organic food stores, universal solvents such as DMSO, and the
plethora of alternatives to brain chemistry and amino acid acquisition are
widely utilized.

>Don't feel angry because I called you a sucker. It only means you are
>normal. None of us can be informed about all things, and we all are
>scam victims at some point in our lives.

How forgiving !!

-- richard

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