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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:48:00 JST
From:         Akio Tanaka <TANAKA%JPNSUT20.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Gleanings (72)

[ 1 ]  Green/alien registration card.

Bayla and then Karen wrote (8 Dec 92)

bs) My daughter and her husband have 'green cards' as aliens in Japan.  They
bs) were told that if they got hit by a truck, the authorities would be more
                                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
bs) concerned with whether they had their cards than with the accident, so
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
bs) they refer to them as "truck charms."

--bayla
=======

kk) Foreigners living in Japan (which Koreans are) are no longer required
kk) to be fingerprinted.  But you are required to carry your alien
kk) registration card with you at all times.  I was never caught without
kk) it, although I never carried it with me.  (Except when I went to renew
kk) it.)  But I have friends who have been caught.  Generally, if they have
kk) left it at home, the police go home with them to get it, and then yell
                     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
kk) at them.
    ~~~~~~~
Karen
=====

Are the parts I underlined above really true?  I find them hard to believe...
In what situations are they required to produce the card, except for perhaps
in case of traffic violation?  You mean police just stop them on the street
and ask them to produce the card?  If so, what for?  I'd like to know it,
because I have <never> experienced that kind of thing in my whole life.

By the way, are foreign residents required to be fingerprinted in the
United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, Sweden or any other
places?

[ 2 ]  Hitachi.

Karsten and Ruth H. wrote (11 Dec 92):

> [Thbbbbbbbp!]
> Ah.  So that's how you tried to keep warm.
>
>Is it a Hitachi?
>
rh> That Japanese pig iron?  No way; it was a raspberry.
========================================================

What have you two been talking about?   My father worked for Hitachi
for more than 30 years, by the way.

[ 3 ]  Gleanings (72).  Any info will be appreciated.

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Akio Tanaka/14 Dec 92
=====================
 1) Loglan/Lojban (Tony H.)
 2) Xanax/Desyrel (Lisa G.)
 3) Sterling Management (Evelyn)
 4) Finley Peter Dunne/benzedrine in Mrs. Murphy's Ovaltine (John Wm.)
 5) Hubbardistas/Elron (Graham)
 6) Marshall/Cottage Savings & Loan/Baha'i Parson/Lemon Test (Michael A.)
 7) 'Shroon/Pappalo's (John Wm.)
 8) Orientar (Tony H.)
 9) AABA/AANBA/AANBSA (Peter M.)
10) Grace Quigley (Joan)
11) Kirstie Alley (Lisa G.)
12) Patricia Person Festival (Nancy H.)
13) Hexham Greys (Carolyn)
14) Baba ganouj (Marty)
15) Wolf Blitzer (Evelyn)
16) Doe v. Bolton (Marty)
17) Paul Fussell
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:13:56 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (72)

Hi, Akio!
Finally, the Gleanings have come!

Sterling Management:  one of the groups run by the nastiest of all cults:
the "Church of Scientology."  S.M. will come into an office and tell the
managers and workers how much more efficiently things can be run if only
S.M.'s methods are used.  The CoS was started by science fiction writer
L. Ron Hubbard.  He died in 1986, and "new" books of his are still coming.

Wolf Blitzer:  a reporter for CNN; he became famous during Operation
Desert Storm.  I've heard that that is his real name.

Evelyn Duncan
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Red Line Story
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:12:56 GMT

TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Blue eyes cryin' in the rain) writes:

>        Depends on your line.  The creaky old Norristown cars are run by SEPTA,
>        but those spiffy High-Speed Line trains to South Jersey are PATCO.

Ah.  Nice to know those old air-traffic controllers finally got jobs
somewhere. :)

>        BTW, welcome back, Aaron.

Merci.

--Aaron
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: enclosed solicitation -- anyone else get one?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:41:33 GMT
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In a previous article, MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA (Peter Montgomery) says:


>>
>To return a postage paid envelope with nothing in it, is certainly
>something of a disincentive. It costs the sender money to redeem a worthless
>item. How can that be translated into e-mail terms? Is there a way of
>taxing commercial e-mail? Frankly, I doubt it.
>
I don''t return them empty; I stuff all of their  own junk back in the
envelope before I seal it.  If it's from something totally obnoxious, a few
rocks can go into the mix too.<evil grin>

I just wish I could translate rocks into data....  Come to think of it,
you *could* send back four or so copies of the message like Graham suggested.
You could also put a phony reply-to address on it,so that any replies they
made would bounce, sending the idiots yet more junk....  I think I like
that idea.

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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:42:02 GMT
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In a previous article, "Don Moore  974-4078 S/C 574-4078" (813) says:

>>  Det ar helt enkelt sa att vem som helst kan skriva till words-l pa vilket
>>sprak som helst, och sa lange den som skriver och den som laser har den ratta
>
>(bunch of stuff deleted)
>
>
>Thanks ...I was hoping for some more German for Dawn to interpret (she's
>getting quite involved in her German club and is developing a liking for
>Germany ... all positive things).
>
I think that was Swedish, Don.:-)  If it was in German, I'd have understood
more than one word in 10.[maybe one word in four or five...auf Deutsch :-)]
>
>Don, who barely understands English, let alone anything else (but was once
>good at Latin ...ugh)
>
My sympathies.  I'm willing to sing in it, but that's as far as I go....:)
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:19:36 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nagasaki
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>JMW
>        "With an ice cream cone, and a bottle of tea
>         you can rest all day by the hickory tree -
>         when the night comes around, oh gosh, oh gee,
>         mother, mother, mother, pin a rose on me!"
>
>(Not as cryptic as you might think...)

Is that really part of it? My mama only taught me the first
verse:

   Mother, mother, mother, pin a rose on me.
   Three nice boys are stuck on me.
   Two are blind and the other can't see.
   Mother, mother, mother, pin a rose on me.

judith
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:08:48 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
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Posted on 18 Dec 1992 at 17:51:07 by Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)
>(K*ren went to Yale.  K*ren has
>a skull.  And bones ...)

Yes, and I'll bring them both to dinner at Emily's if you answer this
one burning question:  Are you going to be renting a car when you are
in Anaheim?

Karen
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Snow
Date: 12 Dec 1992 06:19:11 GMT
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In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>Would someone please explain to this Texan how snow is measured?  Do you

With a ruler, most likely.:-)

>mean that the 24" snowfall that Ruth said is predicted in a portion of CT
>is actually 2 feet deep?  And if so, is it measured as it first falls or

If it isn't yet, it will be by tomorrow morning.  We're also getting flooding
along the coast.  High tide is something like 4' above normal.

>after it has compacted somewhat (similar to flour that has settled,
>causing the bag not to be full, as opposed to sifted flour that has not
>settled or campacted).  I really *do* want to know.
>
We measure it before it's compacted.  I think weather types stick a ruler 
into the dirt before the snow hits; if the ruler disappears you have a lot
of snow.:-)  Actually where I am, there was no snow on the ground at all
tonight.  What we got this afternoon was all slush, and by 19:30 it was all
plowed off.  There may be some real stuff tonight, though.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:20:00 EST
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Reason for failure:
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        remote file system is low on free space
From: CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
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Greetings,

Okay.  Everybody lighten up except Don, alright?

By the way Don, an interesting case in southern Indiana (across the Ohio from
Louisville) might be suitable for your archives of contemporary brutality.

Seems a 12 year old girl (A) transferred from one middle school to another
where she befriended a second 12 year old girl (B).  The new relationship
aroused jealousy in a third girl, aged 14 (C).  One night, girl C and 3 of
her friends (girl B wasn't present) enticed girl A into going for a ride.
They drove into the southern Indiana countryside, beat girl A with various
implements, raped her with a broomhandle, then, while she was still alive,
poured gasoline over her body and burned her alive.

Regards,

Marty
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From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Evelyn's turn to pick a topic
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disputed by graham (definition of a boilerplate head):

>        The 'Blue Ensign' is the Australian Flag.
>
>No it isn't!  It's a Brtish Navy flag that *looks* like the Australian flag.
>Doesn't the Ozzie flag have stars on it?  The Blue Ensign doesn't, I'm
>fairly sure.

the 11th Brit (do you have any idea how hard it is not cheating when you have
two dictionaries, two almanacs, the new Roget's, and a few hundred history
books in the room, and THEN you add in the 11th Brit--the horror, the horror)
gives--v. 10, pg. 459-60--a nice little history of the various permutations of
"the blue ensign". The unadorned blue ensign is, in fact, "exclusively the flag
of public service other than the royal navy, and is as well the flag of the
royal navy reserve". Now, various public services can show their own symbols;
e.g., "the telegraph branch of the post-office shows in the fly [the blue part
of the flag, equivalent to the stripes in the US one--the part the "flies"]
a device representing Father Time with his hour-glass shattered by lightning".
Thus, by extension, various colonial administrations were able to put their
own additions--"Examples of these are shown in the Plate [between pp. 456 &
457], where the blue ensign illustrated is that of New Zealand, the device of
the colony being the southern cross in the fly [sounds painful, no?]. Precisely
the same flag, with a large six-pointed star, emblematic of the six states
immediately under the union, forms the flag of the federated commonwealth of
Australia."

Thus the answer in the game is correct, but incomplete. Very sloppy, but not
sloppy enough, alas, to cover my answer. I will only answer with the time-
honored TP whine: "What's that got to do with history!?!?!?" Sigh.

b.c.
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Does the panel think? (Was Re: Deep beliefs)
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 01:38:31 GMT

In article <TORKEL.92Dec20235955@bast.sics.se> torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:
:of thinking machines were being put in question. Your remarks again
:demonstrate how alien questions about what, if anything, we mean when
:we speak are to many people's thinking.

It's unfair to expect people who have trouble thinking to indulge in
meta-thinking, don't you think?

G
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From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Subject: Re: I think we're alone now....
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:17:45 GMT

BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:

>are transparent, as they say.  But I sure wish the Bitnet node were
>back up.  They said 8 am; my experience with local outages tells me

It's not just the bitnet node.  It's the whole UGA system.  I never use
bitnet for list mail, btw.  I use uga.cc.uga.edu -- which is internet.
--
   Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject: Re: OS/2
Date: 18 Dec 1992 04:49:14 GMT
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In a previous article, LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Karen Kay) says:

>So far it's fun...but then I haven't deleted anything by mistake yet.:)
>
>I don't seem to have mice aversions, though my icons look like they were
>arranged by a drunken person.
>
Maybe they were?  Did you do the arranging, or are they the product of
a punch [or maybe vodka] -drunk or fatigue-stoned programmer?:-)  Or was
that programmer you too?  

Speaking of things drunken, my Lebkuchen [Christmas cookies] this year
taste like they were doused with orange liqueur.  They weren't - but the orange
put in with them to help them soften became mostly mold.  I think it must
have fermented a bit too, while it was at it....  The funny part is they 
taste pretty good.:-)

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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Inexcusable favouritism by Carolyn
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>Golly geewhillickers Tushie, we didn't know that!  NOT!  She just wanted
>to annoy the living daylights out of you...

No, I didn't! I was punishing him.... I know how much mischievous pleasure he
gets out of baiting me and knew that depriving him of that pleasure would
be the most fitting punishment...... so I just ignored his posts.

>Besides, you were transmitting on a male wavelength, while
>Carolyn transmits on the female.

Do I really? That's the first time I've ever been accused of that. I've always
excelled at 'male-type' things but never been much good at those things women
are traditionally supposed to be good at.

>Maybe she just didn't hear you?

Mothers always have selective hearing and I am no exception.

>[there, that should be confusing enough to annoy him even more -- he's
>*soooooooooo* easy to tease, Carolyn]
>
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>                ###     Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###

I really don't think that he is as sensitive as he makes himself out to be...
our words are just like 'water on a duck's back' to him.

Carolyn
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>Carolyn, do not trust this charming Indian snake.

See... I told you, you should have used 'Forked'! :-)

>He will treat you as he treated me, seduce you, use you, and cast you aside.
>
>--bayla

Only if I let him! :-)

Carolyn
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:53:11 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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On Wed, 16 Dec 1992, Graham Toal wrote:

> At that price?  I doubt it.  What I don't understand is why abh paid
> so much for what must be an external modem - when she clearly doesn't

It's an external, an itty bitty external with an indicator that spells out
the device's state in words, not indicator lights, and with Mac software
included for faxing, for when I finally break down and buy my Mac, which I
am softening myself up for by getting this smaller device first. And a Mac
cable, also for the Mac I don't own yet... waiting for the rumored new 040
family to be introduced in Feb.....we'll see...

-abh
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Subject: Re: Gleanings (71
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:07:26 GMT
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==Since each country has it own peculiar set of questions, it would also be
==an indication of who is the most knowledgeable about the others countries.
==Anyone want to play?

==Carolyn
>
>I'm in. Prepare to eat dirt.
>
>b.c.

I'll just stay on the sidelines & comfort the wounded: that's what my
family keeps telling me is my main function in life :-)

Besides, I lost this game a long time ago.  I even (really!) expected 
to find Native Americans in the streets of Chicago, with tomahawks
ready to carve me into roasts.

Florida's not like that.  

--bayla
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>You would have really appreciated the cats my sister and I had as kids then.
>Fluffy was given to my sister when she was 2; at 18 months I was allowed to

I used to have cat named Fluffy!  She was a grey tabby, who liked having 
kittens and chasing the occasional dog.  She disappeared when I was 5...

>fluff - used to visit our house often. One day the dogs followed her down
>to our place.... but they didn't stay very long..... they were seen yelping
>their way back up the street with Fluffy and Possum riding them like jockeys...
>I never thought it strange that the dogs never came near our house again. :-)
>
That sounds like my father's lawn mower story.  The lawn mower in question
was Skipper, a big red persian who did double duty as bed bug and apple tree
guard.  He was attatched with a rope - granddad's idea.:-)  One day, a
neighborhood dog decided that the apple tree was a great place to pee, only
he hadn't counted on Skipper.  Ol' Skip was up in the tree, waiting for
lunch to land, only the dog showed up first.  Instead of landing on lunch,
he landed on the dog - all four feet, double-toed.<evil grin>  He hung on
as long as the rope payed out, and even then tried to hang onto his prey.
The dog got loose, but only at the expense of a *lot* of fur.....
That dog never came back again either.:-)

The lawn mower?  That's what the dog looked like afterward - kinda like
he'd been run over by one.:-)

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In article <tfilt427749@drew.edu>, Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK> writ
   es:
> I was so gobsmacked by this I had to go back and see who it
> was from.  i should have known.  I wonder if Adam will appreciate
> this God crap - I heard that... oh, forget it.  I think that was private.
> G

Well, to be honest, it doesn't really faze me one way or the
other--if whoever posted that wants God to bless me, then that's
fine.  That doesn't mean that I have to believe that such a god
exists.  But I can appreciate the sentiment behind the statement.
Does that make sense?

--Adam/LH
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Getting older
Organization: Karsten's Bit Bucket
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LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU writes:
>> (BTW, as far as temp is concerned, lows of -25C aren't uncommon in IL)
> I think you had better remind me of that if I ever start talking about paying
> you a visit. :-)

I don't live in IL any more.  Out here near the beach in Los Angeles I
haven't yet seen that negative sign in front of the temperature (F or C).

--karsten

(I can always drive into the mountains when I want cold and snow)
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From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
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No I didn't, but oh how I wish I had... >:)

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      How much more of this
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What do they think I'm made of: iron?
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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:  If you say so. It would seem, then, that like many other people who
:speak about deep beliefs and how they should be respected, you haven't
:thought about what you're saying. I think it's a pity that you're
:content to mouth these pious platitudes.

Absolutely.  Personally I find the majority of 'deep beliefs' beneath
contempt, simply by virtue of being *beliefs*. Most of these things
should be taken as hypotheses, not axioms.

G
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