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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:58:49 EDT
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From:         Michael Obuchowski <MICHALO@NEWSCHOOL.EDU>
Subject:      RE: DMP Print Spooler
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> Date:          Fri, 13 Nov 92 14:16:00 GMT
> Reply-to:      Nota Bene List <NOTABENE@VM.TAU.AC.IL>
> From:          "L.LITVACK" <ENG1787%VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK@VM.TAU.AC.IL>
> Subject:       RE: DMP Print Spooler
> To:            Multiple Recipients of <NOTABENE@TAUNIVM.BITNET>

>
> Could someone please remind me of the name of the directory on SIMTEL
> and its mirrors where DMP may be found?
> Many thanks.
> Leon Litvack
>
Directory PD1:<MSDOS.PRINTER>

I think the latest one is DMP205.ZIP
                                          Michael

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From: BINKLEY@LET.RUG.NL (Peter Binkley)
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Subject: Ctrl-= etc.; and Jonagold
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:58:01 GMT
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What has NB4 done with the functions that used to be attached to ctrl-
=, ctrl-[, and ctrl-]: making words all upper case, all lower case,
or capitalised (not in that order)?  Since I often miss the shift
key, and sometimes hit the Caps Lock instead, I use these a lot.

I moved to Holland a few weeks ago, and discovered Jonagolds in our
local supermarket; I assumed they were a Dutch breed.  They are
wonderful.




Peter Binkley             binkley@let.rug.nl
COMERS: C_lassical, O_riental, Me_dieval, and R_enaissance S_tudies
Rijksuniversiteit Groningen
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 92 14:29:54 EST
From:         robert kelly F <rkelly3@MACH1.WLU.CA>
Subject:      24 pins and outlines
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Ken Salzberg asks about 24 pin printers.  I have a Roland Raven PR-2417
which is also a Panasonic KPX 1124.  I am very happy with it.  There are now
more recent versions and wide carriage versions.  The cost is not very high.
One note, if you intend to use it with Lingua, get the optional memory
add-on to hold the downloaded fonts.

 Several days ago someone asked if anyone were having problems
 with the outlining function:

  Sometimes when I am doing an outline I know that I will want
 three level one points or two level five subpoints or some such
 before I know what the contents of those points will be.  I
 create the outline and then start entering the points.  In NB4
 this is done with <RETURN> to stay on the same level, <RETURN> +
 <GRAY -> to go one level higher, <RETURN> + <GRAY +> to go one
 level lower and <RETURN> + <n> to specify levels.

  The problem is that if I want to go through establishing the
 spots for points of the same level by hitting, say, <RETURN>
 several times, the second strike of <RETURN> erases the point
 which the previous strike has just entered.  If I have typed any-
  thing or moved the cursor around between, a second instance of
 the outline level is entered and nothing is deleted.

  Is this a bug or a feature?

  P.S. While we are at it: I have noticed that when one is moving
 the cursor up and down the screen and it is out to the right
 beyond the end of the line, tapping <- moves the cursor to the
 end of the previous line, not the end of the line that the cursor
 appears to be on.  Anyone else find this irritating?

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:37:07 EST
From:         Dorothy Day <DAY@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NBI Prices, revised

The last time I spoke with Dragonfly about academic pricing (it was
before the NBI incarnation), "academic pricing" was applied to any
person affiliated with an educational institution, national boundaries
irrelevant. (This is a company policy, not a US IRS issue...) DF/NBI
is aimed at academics, and geography seems irrelevant to that purpose.

Ah, documentation... Well, I can guarantee extra-continentals will not
get it BEFORE those of us in North America; however, you'll get the
same guarantee of documentation that current holders of the program
have: it's coming, and your 60-day trial period begins at the date of
arrival of the full documentation.

Mervyn, as long as your eyes are up to the challenge, what
currently ships with the program is A LOT. The "Quick Ref. Guide" is
a pocket-size (in clear but microscopic print) encyclopedia of
information. The Customization Guide has most everything you need to
assist in navigating the menus, which are pretty self-explanatory if
you have a roadmap. The Changes & New Features clues you in to
(especially) keyboard changes that might otherwise confuse and
befuddle. Most of the questions put to the list in recent weeks are
answered by the documentation--if you can read it.

I cheated--I enlarged the entire QRG and Customization Guide and put
them in a binder for easy use. (The New Features and the Tutorial are
already good-sized format & print.)  It's amazing how much I've found
in all that, now that I can  see it... Maybe we can prevail on NBI to
publish a Large Print Edition, and offer users a choice?

Dorothy Day, Indiana University
Bitnet: DAY@IUBACS
Internet: day@ucs.indiana.edu
From: JBLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET (Joel Lidov)
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Subject: Re: ORBIS: error opening...
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:18:37 GMT
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              6 Nov 92 17:06:22 EST from <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>

On Fri, 6 Nov 92 17:06:22 EST Paul J. Bodin said:
>Joel Lidov writes:
>
>> I reported earlier that ORBIS wouldn't open a databasis in the session
>> after I created it, but gave the "error opening file:  .DAT" message.
>> I tried Peter Binkley's suggestion of reducing the name of my database,
>> but to no avail (I used 5 characters).  Any other suggestions welcome.
>
>When you attempt to open the database, have you already used the
>"Pick" option to activate the database you are trying to open?
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
>Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
>Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
>(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220

Yes.  I've tried every possible way of opening it, even updating it,
which fails but fills in the "active database" line.

                                                    Joel
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 92 07:51:21 IST
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CTRL-= and CUSTOMIZATION
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              7 Nov 92 20:06:38 -0500 from <slhi@TROI.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU>

Re: keyboard customization / RL

A quite adequate source of information is a file called NBKEY.LST.
It is NOT a full list of all available NB functions, but it is
more complete than the older list published in the Customization
booklet (3.0-3.1). You will find there RL, too. In short, RL
(and RS, RP) will work in NB 4.0 as it (they) did in previous versions.

I would like to take this opportunity to draw the attention of
users who have been using the HL key that it now must be customized
as GT,HL (or NI,GT,HL). Changes in the relations between text and
command line area now cause HL to go to the command line unless
you cared to put the cursor in the text area. Therefore, GT will normally
force it to go to the text area (and if there is no file open,
no harm will be done).

Itamar E-Z
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 92 15:20:28 EST
From:         Reinaldo Perez <RPEREZ@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: dot matrix Printers
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              7 Nov 92 11:39:28 -0600 from <ksalzber@HAMLINE.EDU>

Add another favorable testimony about the Panasonic 1124.  You do need the extr
a memory chip to download the Lingua (SLS) fonts.  The Panasonic was my second
printer.  My first, the Toshiba 321, you should avoid.  I went through seven pr
int heads (some of the pins kept breaking).  I should add, however, that Toshib
a refunded 100% of the purchase price, even though the warranty had expired a y
ear earlier.  I used the refund to buy the cheaper, sturdier Panasonic and have
 been satisfied ever since.  (The Toshiba 321 received an unfavorable review in
 PC Magazine's printer review a couple of years back - reliability and sturdine
ss problems based on their reader surveys.)

Reinaldo Perez, Greek and Latin
Wayne State Univ, Detroit
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:08:23 IST
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Break XPL-program
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I am afraid there is a bug with XPL-breaking in NB 4.0.
ESC (OV bk) does not work. I wish somebody told NBI about
this.

Itamar
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 92 11:56:20 EST
From:         "Heather L. Nadelman" <NADELMAN@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Gateway and Overflow
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Michael:

I have also had problems with overflow files on Gateways (a 386SX).
What normally happens is that the program will simply freeze when
I attempt to abandon or store a file which has gone into overflow--
say the last file when I have nine windows open.  Often, I would be
able to store files seven and eight successfully (which also were
in overflow), but it would hang on the ninth.  I've determined that
it must be hardware related because I have identical setups on the
Gateway and a non-Gateway 386 (same autoexec.bats, same config.sys, both
running Desqview).  Here's another oddity: running NB on the Gateway from
inside Desqview makes the problem disappear; obviously, the combination of
QEMM and Desqview manages memory better than QEMM alone with DOS, at least
as far as NB is concerned.

--Heather L. Nadelman
Nadelman@PUCC
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:08:37 EST
From:         "Wayne A. Meeks" <WMEEKS@YALEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Ibid and accents
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If I'm the only one having this problem, I apologize for bringing it up again
to the list.  Ibid will, for me, not find authors or titles with accented or
umlauted letters.  (I am using Lingua constantly.  Most of my NBBIBxxx.DAT
files are converted from 3.1 SLS, following the directions in the Ibid Quick
Start Card, "Updating . . ."--however, lookup doesn't work any better with
records that I have entered under 4.0 Lingua.)

Itamar suggested that the problem was the expansion of characters and that it
could be cured by adding the .DAT extension to the exception list in
NBCUSTOM.DAT.  Certainly seemed plausible, and I did that.  The difference is
that now if I call the .DAT files to screen, the accented letters are replaced
by that empty rectangle that NB 4.0 uses when you don't have the relevant
alphabet loaded.  Lookup still doesn't find the accented words.  If I look
them up by other means (date, ref. number, etc.), they now appear perfectly
normal on the screen, whether in short or in long format.

Doubtless I will eventually get through to NBI with this and some other
questions. Meanwhile, am I overlooking somethng obvious?

P.S. I also tried Calling and Storing the .DAT files one by one with the /x
switch.  This forced a complete reindexing, but the problem remained the same.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:28:09 IST
From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Danish/Norwegian o-slash
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Thanks, Tom, I know now how to make my display show ASCII 155 as
the lowercase o-slash and 157 as the uppercase equivalent,
but I don't know how to make the HP LJIII print them.
As far as I can understand, DOS 5 (which I use) only comes with
code page support for a few printers (IBM proprinter 4201, 4208 and
Quietwriter 5202), so I don't see how I can use code page system for
that.
I tried setting the HP LJIII to Danish/Norwegian mode from the panel,
but printing from NB turned what should have been Scandinavian letters
into cents and yens.  I suspect that NB somehow overrode the panel
setting, but I don't know how it works.
Calling NBI produced little so far, they said (23hours ago) they
would fax me something but so far there is nothing.
For the work at hand, I may settle for Phi representing lowercase
o-slash, but in the long run this is not nice.
j-p takala
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From:         Backer.Johnsen@PSYCH.UIB.NO
Subject:      Re: Danish/Norwegian o-slash
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What probably happens is that you set the controls on the panel, and
when NB initializes the printer you are back to square one.  I do
not have NB version 4, and only a HP Laserjet IIP, therefore I do
not know for sure.  However.  Look for somthing like an initializing
string in the NB documentation, and use that to choose the symbol
set.  On the IIP, the command sequence for Danish/Norwegian is ESC-(-
11U if I remember correctly (If you write Finnish you have the
Swedish commands already).
From: FCTMOORE@HKUCC.BITNET
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Subject: Re: EOF markers, Epson LQ850
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:34:00 GMT
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>From: Kenneth Salzberg <ksalzber%HAMLINE.EDU@HKUVM1.BITNET>
>Subject:RE:  EOF markers, Epson LQ850
>Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 09:15:59 -0500
>Message-ID:<D755D96A381F014D58@HKUJNT.BITNET>

>       The Route (circuitous as it is) is: F1 -> Set -> Other defaults ->
>File/windows -> Marker for file end.  At that window, one can pick the
>replacement for Ctrl-Z (^Z) one wants (or so it says, I havne't actually
>tried to _use_ it or anything.
>--Ken Salzberg
>ksalzber@hamline.edu
I have now tried several times to use F1/ SET/ OTHER/ FILE / MARKER
to read past a file end, using various substitutes for CTRL-Z, and choosing
the option of changing this setting for the session, rather than permanently.
It doesn't work.
Tim Moore
HONG KONG
[Sorry: for "read past a file end" substitute "read past a file end marker".]
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 92 21:12:06 IST
From:         BCAMPBELL@MTA.CA
Subject:      NB Printing on a network
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Paul Chandler writes  that NB will not print his print job over
a network until he has closed down the program.  This is a common
DOS program problem with a solution.
NB like many other programs does not indicate that it has finished
talking to the device when it has finished printing.
When NB is shut down it then releases the device.  The network
gets this message as a completion of the print job and despools the
print file.  Of course when the printer is directly attached to the
PC this is not an issue.
The way to get around this problem is to have the network interpret
inactivity as the end of a print job.
On our net I have things set up so that inactivity of ten seconds
indicates the end of a print job.  With this implimented NB does
just fine.  This may not work when downloading fonts, if there is
a pause.  With some other programs which download fonts and then
think for more than ten seconds there can be problems.
In that case a timeout of more than 10 seconds would be called for.
I don't know if this would be relevant for Lingua users.
I use plain NB so I haven't had to deal with this issue in any
other flavour.

Brian Campbell
Sociology & Anthropology
Mount Allison
BCAMPBELL@MTA.CA
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 92 17:31:14 EST
From:         HOLSCHUH@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Toshiba patch not helpful

I have tried out the modification of the nbformat.set file as suggested by
Michael at NBI. I cannot recommend it:
The first page now starts nicely at the top as desired. At the bottom, the
printer thinks for a second and then advances an additional six lines or so
into the next sheet. I assume it is now misjudging the bottom of the form.
Albrecht Holschuh@iubacs, Holschuh@ucs,indiana.edu
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 92 07:48:05 EST
From:         HOLSCHUH@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Toshiba printer fix

The "radical" solution works: in nbcustom.set change to DF TP=0, and the
printer behaves nicely. Thank you very much!
Albrecht Holschuh@iubacs, holschuh@ucs.indiana.edu.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:13:00 IST
From:         Odeda Zlotnick <KPUOZ@HUJIVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NBI $
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Michael Dick,
Forgive this rank heresy, but what about temporarily (TEMPORARILY) breaking
your file into 10 page sub-files and printing them out?  Isn't that lighter
than carrying a portable and reading from the screen?

                                                      Odeda.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:36:49 IST
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: bugs, gremlins, and ibid problems
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              10 Nov 92 11:27:44 GMT from <M.A.Elass@DURHAM.AC.UK>

Re: recognition of diacritica in NB 4.0 Ibid.

I believe that the problem is with the compression problems,
as I have reported earlier on this list. My solution was to
put the DAT extension into the list of exception extensions
in NBCUSTOM.SET (NBXL=.........). This guarantees that
accents don't get expanded and eventually transformed.

Itamar
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From:         Tom Schlesinger <tos@OZ.PLYMOUTH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Orbis
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>
>
> On Sat, 7 Nov 92 06:14:43 EST Tom Schlesinger said:
> >   Ever since someone suggested trying shorter textbase names, I've been just
> >about 100% successful in building Orbis TB's regardless of what the default
> >directory at starting point.
>
> For the record, how many letters is the longest name you are using?

I used four letter names, and didn't make any attempts to use more, as I'll
continue using a number as last digit and there is no way, based on my past
experience, that I'll ever need more than 9, and if I did, I could always start
changing letters in the name... the possibilities with four alphanumerical
digits are rather astronomical... if I were mathematically inclined I could be
more precise about that.

Tom Schlesinger                 INTERNET: TOMS@PSC.PLYMOUTH.EDU
Social Science Department       UUCP(USENET): tos@oz.plymouth.edu
Plymouth State College          Tel: (603) 535-2498
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:47:19 EST
From:         "David H. Hesla" <ILADHH@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      UNDERLININGNING
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The underlining produced by Ctrl+2 and space bar is perceptibly higher
than that produced by Shft+-.  CAn this be remedied?


DAVID H. HESLA
GRADUATE INSTITUTE OF THE LIBERAL ARTS
EMORY UNIVERSITY
ATLANTA GA 30322
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:54:26 AST
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From:         GLB0000 <GLB@UNB.CA>
Subject:      RE: WPCitation: Ibid competition
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> > I've used WPCitation.  It is cumbersome, clumsy, and driven via multiple
> > macros.  No comparison exists between Ibid and WPC.
> >
> I have used it, too.  It is clumsy.  Some of the features mentioned
> in the manual did not exist (about a year ago).  However, there is a
> new version out. I haven't seen it yet, but it is using the same
> "multiple macros" approach.

Though I've not used WPCitation, I would expect, given the
way WP works, that what you say is true.  You've missed my point,
however, when you say there is no comparison between the two.
You are suggesting that NBI will not loose current users to
WP with WPCitation.  No disagreement.  I certainly don't plan
on switching.  My point is that NBI's financial future is
dependent upon an expanding customer base, not merely upon
retaining current users.  At my institution at least, WP
users who were thinking about switching to NB in order to
gain Ibid like functions, no longer see this as necessary.
NBI has lost those potential customers.  For those of us
who would like to see a financially healthy NBI this cannot
be taken as good news.

Gary Bowden
glb@unb.ca
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 92 22:11:54 IST
From:         JEARLS@CSBSJU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Shift-F7
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Sarah,
It's not as precise, and takes longer to get back to Shift-F10, but try
Shift-F8!
I do.
_--JP
From: RMB@CUNYVMS1.BITNET (Robert Braham)
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Subject: RE: How about meeting at the MLA convention?
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:34:24 GMT
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>My confirmation of accommodation at the MLA in New York has just arrived.
>I assume that some of you will be going to the Big Apple for the
>convention; would you like to try to meet up at some point for drinks or
>dinner?

>Leon Litvack

Could you
a)post the dates of the meeting so that
b)you could sneak me past the guards so that I, non-MLA-meeting-goer, could
c)join you, since I live here?

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