From: regmad@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Michael de Kraker)
Subject: Re: Money Making scheme
Organization: Georgia State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:16:08 GMT

fritz@fc.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz) writes:

>51233-Tyrone Shiu(HOC828)HRCP (tyrone@infinity.att.com) wrote:
>: I stumbled across some of my old junk mail and see this ad about
>: "COMPLETE BUSINESS START-UP PACKAGE" for making money with your
>: answering machine from a person called "Eileen K. Rohleder c/o Mid-American
>: Opportunity Research Enterprises (M.O.R.E).  Does anyone know whether
>: this scheme work/safe or etc. Are they still in business?

>They are still in business -- I just got a mailing from them a few
>weeks ago.  I have heard that, as "mail-order opportunity vendors" go,
>Eileen Rohleder is supposed to be one of the better / more honorable ones,
>but that's not a very reliable source.  I think there's no question
>that she makes more money from selling "opportunities" via the mail
>than with her answering machine.

>I'd be very interested in hearing from someone who actually SENT for
>her packet, or similar ones, to hear what the scam is.

>Gary


Dear Gary and others:


	Face it we all want to be independent and finacially secure.


	Yes curiosity lead me to pursue a simular offer of fame and
	fortune using only an answering machine.

	The scheme is as follows:


	Run ad stating how to work at home, Buy  at goverment auctions
	etc.

	I ran an ad in a local job advert. This closely folled my offer
	of work at home oportunities. The ad was cheap 15$ or so.

	Include telephone number which connects to your answer machine
	or voice mail box which has recorded a comprehensive sales
	speal.

	Orders come in which you fullfil by sending companyX produced
	publications which you buy from companyX 

	Three variations are allowed:

	1) Customers leave message with address etc for you to send
	your product C.O.D ( I tried this and was very frusrating ie.
	many orders many rejections not to mention the pain of C.O.D
	paperwork with the P.O.)

	2) Followup messsages with written sales message and an
	   order form ( did not try).

	3) Simply tell potential customers to send money ( the best way).


	I will have to admit that I broke even which is about the best you
	can expect from a speculative venture.

	I did learn what I wanted ( ie. how you make money using an answer 
	machine).

	Given the high cost of advertising the answering machine/recording
	technique has the advantage of the ability to better sell your
	product with little cost people will call to listen and maybe 
	even order your product.

	My advice is to save your money come up with a product and if you
	need a forum to describe the product the the recorded message 
	has merit. If you want a product ready to sell then go with companyX 
	This is not to say that I did not feel that I felt like I was 
	ripping people off with the HOME worker pamphlet which companyX
	suggested I charge 20 or so dollars for.


 
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