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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Book due in Nov.
Keywords: by whom, with what and when?
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:58:20 GMT
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The FAQ refers to a stand-alone book to be released ~ Nov this year. (I forget
the author) Does anyone know anything about it?  
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From: gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Dolls
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:38:32 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


	Can anyone out there give me some information on the following:

	Two Star Wars "dolls," one is Darth Vader, the other is a StormTrooper.
DV is about 15 inches tall, the ST is about an inch shorter.  Unfortunatly
I don't have weapons for either, but Darth has his original cape.  I'd
like to know: A) What kinds of weapons did they have? Did Darth have a 
LightSaber? The ST has a string which looks like it was once used as some
sort of a gun holster.  Thanks
Organization: Philosophy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 10:59:27 -0400 
From: Martin Thurn <mt2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Is there a Collectors' newsletter?

  Greetings all,
  Does anyone know of any newsletter(s) aimed specifically for Star Wars
collectors?  If there are none, then I am going to start one, so feel
free to send me some ideas if you wish.  
  Thanks and MTFBWY,
 - - Martin Thurn        thurn+@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Dark Force Rising/delta source
From: arang@desire.wright.edu
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:43:13 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Sep7.160951.24306@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay) writes:
> In article <1992Sep6.213358.17992@newshost.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
>>Though Winter is a good guess about Delta Source, I kind of think it might
>>be Mon Mothma.  Comments...?
> 
> 	I personally think it will be neither of these, the problem is, I have
> no idea who it is. :)  I doubt Mon Mothma because she is from the original
> movies.  It would take special permission from LucasFilms in order to muck 
> with a character like this, so I suspect it's a Zahn-created character.
> The reason I don't think it's Winter is because it's *obviously* Winter.
> Zahn seems to have gone out of his way to make us think it is Winter, which
> automatically makes me skeptical :)

I think it's the computer...Luke was using it before he went after C'Boath and
before he was delayed.(I thought I read something about Thrawn thinking Luke
was headed to meet C'Boath only to run into him someplace else).

Well, that's my 2 cents worth.  More or less (I don't feel in a very financial
mood right now).
Amy Rang
Wright State University

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From: jmr5125@tamsun.tamu.edu (James Reed)
Subject: Delta Source (Spoilers)
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:36:39 GMT

I was just looking through messages, and it appears as if some people haven't
figured out just who the mysterious Delta Source is...  I suspected since the
end of the last book, and I'd be willing to bet that Delta Source is:











[****Spoilers ahead*****]
























Winter.  Come on folks, when Luke talks to Winter about going to see C'broath,
you have the Grand Admiral saying that Luke is going to go see C'broath.  
Whenever Winter is invovled in something it seems to fall apart.  We already
know that the source is highly placed, and un-suspectable, so how much higher
can you get than Winter???!?

Any debate?

(Excuse my mangling of names, etc.  Its been awhile since I last read the 
books).

jmr5125@tamsun.tamu.edu
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From: AVRK90@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Kevin Cox)
Subject: Empire sp-fx
Organization: Motorola
Date: 9 Sep 1992 20:02:30 MST

Anyone else notice in ESB that most of the ships (Snow speeders, Star
Destroyers, Millennium Falcon etc.) are slightly transparent?  In almost
every shot where there is a vehicle of some kind, you can see the back-
ground through it!  Maybe it's just my copy, but if it's not, does anyone
know why this is?  Is it similar to the shoddy outlines you can see
around the TIE fighters in the video version of ANH?  Just curious.

Kevin
From: mcguire@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Melissa Mcguire)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars big obvious blooper!!!!
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:59:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep4.145021.6070@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>, cad214@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("P.Craig") writes...
>Has anyone else noticed that at the end of Star Wars, when Luke gets back after
>blowing up the Death Star, he gets out of his X-Wing, and turns to Leia who is
>running up to greet him, and shouts, rather loudly, CARRIE !!!!! Now either Leia
>changed her name by deed poll, or Mark Hamill severely fluffed his lines. (but
>I'll forgive him anyway if he did.)
>-- 
> 
>This is a signature....


This has probably been addresses already, but what the heck.  I have read 
in movie blooper books about this supposed scene in which Mark Hamill calls 
Leia "Carrie."  I've watched SW enough times to have it memorized.  I have 
listened to Luke ashe exits his X-Wing, and he does NOT say "Carrie."  He 
yells something not entirely audible.  If anything, it could be "Hey!"  To 
say that he has misspoken is really stretching.

My opinion.  Take it for what it's worth.

Melissa McGuire
mcguire@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov
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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: Dark Force Rising (cont.)
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:03:07 GMT

>With the imminent release of The Last Command (??? 3rd Zahn book) sometime
>early next year, anybody want to speculate on Luke and Mara's relationship.
>I'm intrigued by it.  He seems to always be looking out for the best interests
>of others, but rarely himself.  However, if the comics are a continuation
>(as they claim to be), where is Mara??  For that matter, where is Thrawn and
>Palleon?? or Winter??? 
>
>Other speculations are welcomed and desired.
>
>P.S.-What's this I here about Leia being pregnant AGAIN in comic issue #5.
>     Looks like a trend is starting!  I wonder how many it will be this time??

I don't believe the comics and the Zahn books are supposed to continue the
story in the same way -- there really isn't any evidence (correct me if I'm
wrong) to even connect them in the most remote way, except that they both
have the same history.

As for Luke and Mara, I'm betting Zahn won't get them together romantically,
and I think he will be a lot safer in public if he does that, considering
the general opinion of net.people out there.  But I would think it would be
kind of neat if they did get involved in a relationship with each other.
Quite a switcharound, and it would take some serious character-reforming on
the part of both.  Just the kind of thing that goes *perfectly* with some
outside disaster -- and they both pull through it in the end, winding up
romantically involved in the process.

But my money says Zahn isn't going to do it.
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From: dragon@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Korth)
Subject: Re: Dark Force Rising
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  7 Sep 92 19:10:19 GMT

In <martin.715830300@zen> martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au (Martin Caden) writes:
[possible spoilers]


>(and perhaps the entire clone army that the Empire
>will probably create).
The Empire already is.  Remember the dead Stormtroopers on the Katana?
They were *all* clones of one soldier.

>I had the feeling that the ysalimiri were an important part of the cloning
>process.  A clue to this is that after the construction of the Sparti cylinders
>began Thrawn returned to Myrkr for more and Kardde made the comment that they
>were running through them rather quickly - although no mention was made of
>their use to protect any other ships/places.
This might also account for the fact that Luke sensed something odd
about the Stormtroopers--although, the fact that they were clones
would do so as well.

>PS. Who's willing to bet that Luke and Mara DON'T become a couple?
I never bet on a sure thing.
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		Of hope and promise on dragonwing.
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From: mogul@ocf.berkeley.edu (Bret Aaron Mogilefsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Help II: Request for info.
Date: 5 Sep 1992 21:28:10 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: avalanche.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep5.110907.15396@husc3.harvard.edu> gownder@husc9.harvard.edu (Joseph Gownder) writes:
>
>Hi, this is a second posting.  I was wondering if someone could give me
>some information:
>
>- What is Mark Hamill up to these days?  I hear alot about Carrie Fisher
>and (of course) Harrison Ford, but I would like to know more about Mark
>Hamill.  Can he be written to at some address?
>
>- How can I get the FAQ for this group?
>
>Please e-mail if possible.  Thanks.
>
>- J. P. Gownder
>gownder@husc9.harvard.edu


Mark Hamill has two things going now, as far as I know.  One
is already a failure.

He was a mustached detective in a schlock sci-fi movie that is now 
going straight to video known as "Mutronics", loosely based on some
japanimation thingie called "Guyver".  There were to be model kits and
everything for this movie, but it was SOOOO bad (they showed it at
a Berkeley sci-fi-filmfest) that major release has been cancelled and
it goes the way of "The Punisher".  Get this: Mark Hamill gets top
billing in this movie, but he's really nothing more than a sidekick.

Second, Mark Hamill is going to be doing the voice of the Joker in the
new Batman animated weekday/end? series.  This sounds like it might be
more successful.  (Though I can't imagine the Joker saying "You may
either profit by this, or be destroyed.")

Oh, and a third one: Hamill played the Trickster on the Flash series on 
CBS last year, which has now been cancelled.  I have no idea what he's
working on now, but Mutronics will NOT be a career booster...
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From: gretchen@betwixt.ugcs.caltech.edu (Gretchen Louise Mullendore)
Subject: Star Wars Miniseries from Dark Horse Comics
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:06:23 GMT

I read an article some time ago about the new Star Wars Comic series that
would be coming out from Dark Horse Comics.  The article mentioned that it
was Lucasfilm approved, and would try to tie in with the Zahn series, as
well.  I'm very interested -the pictures included looked incredible!-
however I'm not normally into comics, and am wondering if these issues have
hit the comics stores yet...are they hard to get?...etc,etc.  Thanks in
advance!

Gretchen
"You call this a rescue!?"

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From: tapestry@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Petree)
Subject: What Happened to Star Wars?
Keywords: SW--no longer available
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:44:52 GMT


This is second hand info.

I work on the activities council here at Bradley.  We contracted to
show SW in October.

Well, we were checking up on it, only to find out that
George Lucas has pulled the film off of the market.  (I don't know
about the video.)  We were subtly informed that this is due to a "new
project."

I thought I would pass along this info.

Brian
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From: ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: Adm. Piett
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:58:27 GMT

			I just got the RotJ sourcebook from West End Games
today and the theory alluded to in there (which I like) is that Vader's sparing
of Piett is an extremely early example of Vader coming of to the good side...
the first hint that there's goodness in him.
 

						-Chris 
				                 ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu

Editor and Layout Coordinator for UpComing, the Magazine of Speculative 
Fiction... submissions BY SNAIL MAIL ONLY are cheerfully and rather 
gratefully accepted, though letters of inquiry by email are fine.
For info on the magazine, e-mail to address above... to submit, send with 
SASE to UpComing, Box 566, Hampshire College, Amherst, Mass., 01002, 
USA.

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From: rmwise@mcigate.apdev.mci.com (Bob_Wise)
Subject: Re: Admiral Piett
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:45:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MCI

How about the fact the Ozzel actually screwed up, but Piett didn't.
Vader isn't stupid.

-Bob


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From: mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Was Wedge a Spy?
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:21:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep4.232146.29343
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <92246.165121JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu> JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Wedge, I'll try to answer the question of his loyalties.
>         1) Captain Antilles of the blockade runner...It's possible that he
>could be Wedge's dad, or perhaps a close relative.  If he was a traitor, then
>Wedge could be a spy..

	Why is Capt.  Antilles considered a traitor?  Personally, I can't
	see why this captain couldn't have a son following in his footsteps.
	(Meaning Wedge of course).


>         2) How did Darth find the blockade runner?  Well if Darth's Leia's dad
>then he should be able to sense her with the Force (a wee bit of retconning
>from RotJ).  Or, even tho you can't find ships in hyperspace, TESB showed that
>you could make a pretty damned good guess of where they'd be by checking their
>movements right before the leap into hyperspace.

	I believe that Leia was not detectable through the Force, by
	Darth Vader.  She was not aware of it and was not practiced in
	using the  Force, thus she did not project herself to Darth Vader.
	Perhaps Ben Kenobi also hid from Darth by refusing to use his
	Jedi skill and not letting the Force project from him to a great
	extent.
	As for how Darth Vader found the Blockade Runner, yes it could
	have been tracking of the ship before it jumped or they could
	have also traced the transmission from the Rebel spies.

	DARTH:
	"Don't act so surprised, Your Highness.  You weren't on any mercy 
	mission this time.  Several transmissions were beamed to the ship
	by rebel spies.  I want to know what happened to plans they sent you."



	_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/_/   _/_/_/   	Han:  "I knew you were going to say
	_/     _/  _/       _/     _/          that, old fool."
	_/     _/  _/       _/              
	_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/   _/            
	_/   _/    _/       _/          Ben:  "Who's more foolish, the fool
	_/    _/   _/       _/     _/          or the fool who follows him?"
	_/     _/  _/_/_/_/   _/_/_/      
	Robert E. Casey  (mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu)
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: PostScript Stormtrooper Helmet
Date: 12 Sep 92 05:33:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep11.223328.1410
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Hello all. The following message contains a PostScript (ASCII) file that I
drew from the STAR WARS Classic #1 of an Imperial Stormtrooper Helmet. This
was drawn on a Macintosh with Adobe Illustrator 3.2, and should print on
virtually any PostScript Printer, or can be imported into Adobe Illustrator
or Correl Draw, or most programs that support EPS format.

If you folks like this, I might be inspired to do more....

This image is free and public domain, so far in that the artwork, and not
the actual character.

Please e-mail with any constructive comments...flames ignored...

Dave
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From: dragon@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Korth)
Subject: Re: Admiral Piett
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:25:47 GMT

In <1992Sep14.191548.21610@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>In article <BuKozB.Dz5@mcigate.apdev.mci.com> rmwise@mcigate.apdev.mci.com (Bob_Wise) writes:
>>How about the fact the Ozzel actually screwed up, but Piett didn't.
>>Vader isn't stupid.
>But what did Needa do to screw up?

Not only was his ship in pursuit of the MF, he *accepted* *full*
*responsibility* for losing them....
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From: gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Dark Force Rising
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:09:51 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Sep6.213358.17992@newshost.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
>Though Winter is a good guess about Delta Source, I kind of think it might
>be Mon Mothma.  Comments...?

	I personally think it will be neither of these, the problem is, I have
no idea who it is. :)  I doubt Mon Mothma because she is from the original
movies.  It would take special permission from LucasFilms in order to muck 
with a character like this, so I suspect it's a Zahn-created character.
The reason I don't think it's Winter is because it's *obviously* Winter.
Zahn seems to have gone out of his way to make us think it is Winter, which
automatically makes me skeptical :)
From: JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Looking for a SW figure
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:03:17 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Does anybody out there have an Annikan Skywalker (or however you spell his name
) figure?  My best friend has been looking for one for about a million years.
Please E-mail me if ANYONE out there has any info on where I could get one or
any info on who has one.  This is the only figure my best friend doesn't have
and he'd just about die if he had one.  PLEASE help me!!!

          Jill
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From: napalm@next06pg2.wam.umd.edu (Warren L. Mohn)
Subject: Re: Admiral Piett
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:21:46 GMT

In article <goose.716245709@camelot> goose@camelot.bradley.edu (Bradley  
Riley) writes:
> In <1992Sep11.084736.13705@pyra.co.uk> XXX@pyra.co.uk CHANGE THIS TO  
YOUR NAME writes:
 
> >In  TESB,  when  Admiral Ozzel emerges with his battle fleet too  close   
to
> >Hoth, thus allowing the Alliance to force a surface attack from the  
Empire,
> >Vader kills him.

I don't know if this was discussed at all yet.  But isn't Admiral Ozzel  
the one who tried to convince Vader that the field generator  
reconnaissance photo taken by the imperial pod was probably not the rebel  
base and that "there are many uncharted settlements" or something to that  
effect?  But Vader disagreed and had him set his coordinates for that  
location.  Ozzel then came out of hyperspace early.  I have always thought  
that this was an example of Rebel sympathizers within the Empire.   
Especially the way the Admiral glares at his subordinate who originally  
called Vader to look at the photos.  Is this really the case, or am I  
reading too much into it?

-------------
Warren L. Mohn
napalm@wam.umd.edu
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From: kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu (Sean Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Falcon In Tractor Beam
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:08:50 GMT

Robert Edward Timlin <rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:


>     The only really glaring flaw in the "abandoned shortly after takeoff"
>story is the fact that after the Falcon dropped out of hyperspace, she PURSUED
>a TIE fighter, including jamming its transmissions. Plus, she then tried (at
>least briefly) to escape the Death Star's tractor beam. Ok, granted that the
>beam may have been powerful enough that the Falcon's resistance wasn't
>noticeable, but pursuit of a fighter and jamming its comlink are not the
>actions of a ship on autopilot. That's why the Imperials should have known
>straight off that the log was a lie. Well, the Impies aren't terribly well
>known for intelligence. At least Darth wasn't buying it (sure, he sensed
>Obi-Wan, but I still like to think the guy had SOME clue).
>                                                   -Robb Timlin
>                                                    rt16@andrew.cmu.edu

	Who says they didn't suspect anything?  The first thing they did was
send a scanning crew on board.  Vader instantly knew what was up and
deliberately did not order a more extensive search.  He must have decided
right then and there to take out Obi-Wan and let the other's escape so he
could track them to the rebel base.


						--Sean Kennedy
						  kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu
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From: dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer)
Subject: Scanned Figure-panels
Summary: etc etc etc
Keywords: pix
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:59:38 GMT

If my memory serves me correctly, the reverse of the packaging for the
SW figurines, generally showed a selection of others that were
available.

Are these panels (i.e the whole flip-side) suitable for scanning and
posting as jpg/gif files. And if so, can somebody out there try a couple.

It would be nice to have these as available for reference.

Over to y'all


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