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From: f88hv@efd.lth.se (Henrik Vallgren)
Subject: Re: Has anyone in Europe got Win NT Oct?
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:18:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.213057.15646@csc.canberra.edu.au> TrevorL@ise.canberra.edu.au (Trevor Lawrence) writes:
>In article <daavid.724490390@wombaj.kowari.cpsg.com.au>, daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull) says:
>
>>Here in Australia we harrased Microsoft pretty hard and our first
>>copy arrived on Monday, our second today.  We have let Microsoft
>>here in oz know that we are rather sick of being treated as second
>>class citizens just because we are not working from the states.
>>
>>In an ever shrinking world where having the edge in the software
>>development is often measured in weeks and months I consider it highly
>>neglegent at best to make and October release unavailable untill
>>December!  Not good enough!
>>--
>
>We received our first copy through standard channels last week without
>harrassing Microsoft. It seems like a slow alphabetical process because
>a "B" person received one, but "G" and "L" have not yet. Microsoft Australia
>did have them some weeks ago, because we got a copy from the Sydney NT
>developer's conference in late November.
>
>I agree, though, that the delays are frustrating.
>
>Trevor Lawrence,
>Faculty of Information Sciences and Engineering,
>University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA

One major problem here in Sweden is that Microsoft doesn't seem to
keep any trak of who has bought the July version. I believe that
another problem is that we've all payed for the product in advance
so they don't gain anything by sending it to us. Reputation doesn't
count, that's for sure.

When I called them three weeks ago and they promised they would
send me the October version. I called them this Monday and asked
if they had it available for delivery. They had lots of them and
once again they promised to send one to me. Obviously, they haven't
sent one, mail from Stockholm takes one day to Lund. I guess it's
time to call them again ...

Henrik Vallgren
f88hv@efd.lth.se
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: markg@county.lmt.mn.org (Mark Gilbert)
Subject: windbg for a DLL
Organization: LaserMaster R&D, Minneapolis, MN  USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:18:35 GMT


I want to debug a DLL with windbg, but I can't figure out how to get windbg 
to load the symbols for the DLL.  Can somebody tell me what I am missing?

Thanks,
Mark Gilbert
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: anzick@watson.ibm.com (Bill Anzick)
Subject: NT server under OS/2 Domain?
Summary: Can NT act as server under OS/2 Domain?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:32:47 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: anzick@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

I have tried numerous times to get NT to connect to an OS/2 1.3 Domain controller.
I go into the Control Panel and into the Advanced of the Network configuration and
specify the Domain name and it always tells me that either the user name is missing
or the password is incorrect.

Since I am an administrator on the OS/2 domain, I tried different things including
defining the computer name to the domain as a server and adding the NT logged on userid
as a domain user.

The reason I am trying to do this is because I currently only have one CD-ROM drive
and I am trying to make it accessable via the LAN manager and I figured the only
way to do this was to make the NT system with the CD-ROM a LAN server and define
the CD-ROM as a resource.

Is this possible, and if so, how?

Bill Anzick
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: johnhall@microsoft.com (John Hall)
Subject: Re: Net Address For Doug Hamilton?  (Hamilton C-Shell)
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:51:14 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1gj1lsINN4pl@smurf.sti.com> westes@smurf.sti.com (Will Estes) writes:
| Does anyone have a phone or email address for Doug Hamilton, author of
| the Hamilton C-Shell for OS/2 and Windows/NT?  

508-358-5715
3890321@mcimail.com

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: tjt@blink.att.com (Tim Thompson)
Subject: Re: Can someone post how to ask Microsoft a question on Compuserve
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:40:07 GMT

rryan@panix.com (Rob Ryan) writes:
>If you have a CD system, you can also look into Microsoft's Developer Network
>CD, which is $30 (I think).  You can call the 1-800 number to get details.

I recently got this CD.  It has large amounts of useful programming
information (their complete manual set, technical articles, example code),
all conveniently searchable.  Very nice, highly recommended.

   ...Tim...tjt@blink.att.com...
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: gisie@wam.umd.edu (Satan)
Subject: Re: CD's supported by NT?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:13:18 GMT

In article <15020.2b26d6e5@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> pspeer@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec09.201035.22637@microsoft.com>, dwightm@microsoft.com (Dwight Matheny) writes:
>> As far as I know, that is not supported. Mediavision has the Windows NT
>> Device Driver Kit so they should be working on a driver.
>> 
>> You will still be able to install from the drive (as you can from any
>> CD-ROM drive that works under MS-DOS) using the WINNT.EXE method. Once
>> booted, however, Windows NT won't recognize the drive.
>> 
>> -Dwight
>

I talked to MV about support for NT and they said that "unsupported"
drivers for NT were available on compu$erve.  Anyone know about this?

Tim


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: wright@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Ted Wright)
Subject: Windows for Workgroups & Windows NT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:01:33 GMT

Can I access a shared NT drive from Windows for Workgroups?
Can I access a shared Windows for Workgroups drive from Windows NT?

Thanks, 

Ted Wright (wright@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: tad@wrq.com (Tad Marshall)
Subject: Re: Desperation : 0x0000000A ERROR
Summary: What is "IRQL expected to be less or equal" ?
Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc., Seattle, WA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:54:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.161642.12591@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> dicks@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Richard D. Schlotfeldt) writes:
>Torsten Sturm (tnsturm@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) wrote:
>: 
>: Now I'm near to desperation,
>: 
>: FATAL SYSTEM ERROR
>: 
>: *** 0x0000000A
>: 
>: *** IRQL expected to be less or equal
>
>Since you are desperate I will give as many hints as I can,
>though I do not know the solution.
> ... stuff deleted ...
>Anyone else have something to add??
>
>Dick Schlotfeldt

In the spirit of offering what little I know ...

Although reconfiguring the machine and upgrading BIOSes may solve the
problem, I think that what is really happening is a software bug.

NT supports a concept of virtualized hardware interrupt levels.  Like real
hardware interrupt levels on the IBM PC, these are prioritized -- a high
priority interrupt can interrupt a lower priority interrupt, but not the
other way around.  As on the 8259 PIC chip used in the PC, lower interrupt
numbers are higher in priority, so whenever NT enters an interrupt handler
it expects to see the interrupt level number go down from the level it had
been operating at.  When this is not the case, one of the main assumptions
of all interrupt handling code has been violated, and the system is in an
invalid state -- so it prints "IRQL expected to be less or equal" and stops.

One reason for this happening is a page fault in an interrupt handler.  All
kernel drivers need to have all of their code in RAM when an interrupt
happens, and when this is not so, they will cause a lower priority interrupt
to be generated, causing this crash.

If I'm confused about any of this, please post a correction.  Thanks!

-- Tad
From: tomwii@meryl.csd.uu.se (Tomas Wiiand)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Has anyone in Europe got Win NT Oct?
Date: 14 Dec 92 07:23:27 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: meryl.csd.uu.se
Keywords: Windows NT

Has anyone outside US got their October release of Win NT?

I live in Sweden and I still haven't got my October (December?) release!

/Tomas
From: slewis@aero.org (Steven Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Can someone post how to ask Microsoft a question on Compuserve
Date: 15 Dec 1992 16:36:03 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
   For those of us who are compuserve neophytes - how to I ask
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: antares.aero.org


Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: ycheng@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (yung-rang cheng)
Subject: Error 0x0000000A ?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:44:49 GMT


System Specification:

	Gateway2000 486/33C
	Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller
	CD Technology CD-ROM
	Maxtor 350MB SCSI harddisk

Error Messages:

	Microsoft Windows NT - Beta October 1992 [16064Kb Available Memory]

	*** Fatal System Error: 0x0000000A

	*** IRQL expected to be less or equal

	Kernal Debugger using COM2:

Any information on how to solve this problem is deeply appreciated.
Please reply to ycheng@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: mokler@desert.in-berlin.de (Claudius Mokler)
Subject: Still NE2000 problems / What with .WRI ?
Organization: Private Site
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:01:52 GMT

I am running the following hardware :
  clone 386-33 w/ 387
  16 MB RAM
  Fujitsu M2623T (large enough)
  NE2000 clone

As I do not have a SCSI CD-ROM I used winnt install via a DOS-Network.
Artisoft LANTastic. Everything went more or less fine, Setup copied about
40 MB Stuff onto my harddisk after creating a boot disk.
Then booting created the following result :
Setup copied a lot of files (from harddisk to harddisk) - still in text mode -
and then displayed the normal header (October Beta, 16064K free etc)
and then FATAL SYSTEM ERROR 0x0000007F.
This took me a while without a solution.
Then I took my harddisk, installed it into another computer - on which the 
NT setup works - installed NT there and re-installed the disk into my machine.
Booting took some while, everything seemed okay, NT displayed the request to
logon via CTRL-ALT-DEL - but the keyboard is stuck, the mouse is stuck and 
nothing more happens.

Some guys told me that I may have an interrupt problem - I checked my hardware
really quite often - when the NE2000 card is installed, NT won't operate. If
it isn't, it does. (I am using 0x300, IRQ5 and *don't have LPT2* and nothing
else ).

.WRI files for documentation :
OK, selecting US english as language helps principally. NT Write still isn't
abled to display the embedded graphics and - more disturbing - still sees
page headers and footers mixed with the normal text. This somehow lowers
legibility.

If anyone does know anything, please help me.
Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: dicks@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Richard D. Schlotfeldt)
Subject: Re: Desperation : 0x0000000A ERROR
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:16:42 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
X-Posted-From: sun3a-hyde.honeywell.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Torsten Sturm (tnsturm@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) wrote:
: 
: Now I'm near to desperation,
: 
: FATAL SYSTEM ERROR
: 
: *** 0x0000000A
: 
: *** IRQL expected to be less or equal

Since you are desperate I will give as many hints as I can,
though I do not know the solution.

- Review Appendix B of Release Notes for clues
- Remove any non-essential hardware from your machine until you
  get it working
- Get a newer AMI bios
- Check for interrupt level conflicts
- Slow down the computer
- Slow down DMA rate
- Change VGA to 8 bit
- Wait for next version of SDK??

Others have experienced the dreaded 0x0000000A fault associated with:
- WD card driver (8-bit Elite Plus)
- WD8003EP card driver (ok if disable network support, unplug card)
- Olivetti PWS4000 with built-in ethernet adaptor and TCP/IP software
  crashes when running telnet
- File manager says 8 SCSI cd-rom devices on an FD 845 SCSI adapter
  but system actually has only one. Crashes upon select of ficticious
  device.
- My own problem was old bios and firmware on an Adaptec 1542B.

Some of the above reports were for the July release. Looks like
there are various problems which can lead to this error message.

Anyone else have something to add??

Dick Schlotfeldt
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk (Chris Marriott)
Subject: Re: Porting X applications to NT/Win32 
Distribution: world
Organization: None
Reply-To: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:56:37 +0000

In article <1992Dec17.161921.17376@medusa.prime.com> johnm@CIS.Prime.COM writes:

>
>I am currently looking into the feasibility of porting an X application to
>Windows NT/Win32. My X application consists of two cooperating processes; a
>UI engine and a graphics engine. Amongst other things, the UI engine is
> responsible
>for creating graphics windows within a strictly defined presentation area, and
> then
>passing the handles to these graphics windows to the graphics engine. The
> graphics
>engine is then able to draw graphics and process X events in these windows,
> just as
>if it had created the windows itself. My question is this. Will Windows
> NT/Win32
>support this type of architecture (ie sharing windows between different
> processes) ?
>
>Thanks
>John Mason
>

Two *processes* can't share a window, no, but two *threads* within the same
process can.  Why not write your application as a multi-threaded app - you'll
find it's pretty much the same as having two separate apps, with the benefit
that you can share all the resources between the two.

Chris
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From: tnsturm@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Desperation : 0x0000000A ERROR
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:03:23 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de


Now I'm near to desperation, because everything.
Is there on compuserve an update for fastfat.sys or 
atdisk.sys ???????

Here is my problem again ?:::


Hello Out there !
I tried to intall Win NT over Network, started winnt.exe,
which copied all ao the i386 dir to my disk, 
it then booted from floppy, installed everything to 
the winnt dir, but after this it tries to boot with following 
messages:



NT Bootloader ...(something like that)  

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(o) partition(3)
/..../ntoskernel.exe
/..../hal.dll
/..../config/system
/..../drivers/atdisk.sys
/..../fastfat.sys

after this last line, the system hangs with following message:



FATAL SYSTEM ERROR

*** 0x0000000A

*** IRQL expected to be less or equal

Kernel Debuger using COM2



What can I do ??????????????????????????

My system includes :

486 50 Mhz with Opti chipset ( the newer with the 495...)
Amibios from 1991 (but the board is new (oct 92'))
16MB of memory
AT-Bus seagate st3283a harddisk
multi-i/o card with atbus harddisk controller

SO, what is the clue here ????

Please help !

Many thanks in advance ...

P.S. : With Win 3.1 everything worked fine ...  
---
Torsten Sturm :	    Computer Science Department 
                    University of Erlangen-Nuremburg,  Germany

Internet :          tnsturm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
                    ( tnsturm@immd8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de )
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: sja@world.std.com (Stuart J Adams)
Subject: Where is hardware list ???
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:22:57 GMT

I am looking for the hardware compatibility list for NT that was
posted here a while back.  Is there a good ftp sites for NT info ???

Thanks,
Stuart Adams
sja@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: ANSI terminal emulation in console?
From: rushing@titan.ksc.nasa.gov (Sam Rushing)
Date: 18 Dec 92 09:50:39 EST
Organization: NASA, Kennedy Space Center

Is there any way to get ANSI terminal emulation in a console
window?  There's a file 'ansi.sys' in the nt/system dir, but 
sticking that into the config.sys file doesn't seem to do anything.
The console API sample app doesn't mention anything about
it either.

-Sam Rushing
rushing@titan.ksc.nasa.gov
From: desktop@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Jon Ericson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Windows NT - develop. applets
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:06:38 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

I would like to develop WIN32 or WIN32s application
with NT  os in mind as target, but I would like to develop them
on a windows 3.1 based machine.

Is it possible to accomplish this using MAX386+BC3.1 32 bit compiler ?

Anyone can help,
Thanks,



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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: bair@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (matthew.a.bair)
Subject: WNT SDK vs. DDK
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:36:46 GMT

NT Preliminary SDK owners,

I ordered the Windows NT SDK from Microsoft.  When I received the package
though, everything I have refers to this as the Device Driver Kit!  I didn't
know there was a separate DDK, but what I was interested in was the SDK.  Am
I confused or did I get sent the wrong package?  Any help please as I was
hoping to get NT up and running soon.

Thanks,
Matt Bair
bair@ihlpm.att.com
708-979-3170
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: strobl@gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl)
Subject: Re: network-service-errors
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:19:48 GMT

In <1992Dec10.184618.22757@microsoft.com> jballard@microsoft.com (John Ballard) writes:

>In article <92344.113951K3005E1@ALIJKU11.BITNET> <K3005E1@ALIJKU11.BITNET> writes:
>>the following errors occured on starting network-services from
>>
>>WIN-NT Oktober 92 on a few of my tested machines.
>>
>>
>>
>>E1068: The dependency service or group failed to start.
>>occured on starting any service.
>>
>>
>>E2186: The service is not responding to the control function.
>>occured on starting the NetLogon service
>>
>>
>>Who can help me, determinig the exact meaning of this error-messages or
>>give the solution of the problem.
>>

>When you get an error like this, more information is usually available
>in the system log. Use the eventvwr to look at the log.

When I got that error ("The dependency group or ..."), this was the
first idea I tried, but the log didn't contain any usefull information
related to that error.

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From: tnsturm@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: edit the registry database with msdos ??
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:10:54 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

Hello,

is it possible to edit the nt registry database from MSos
, I mean is there a msdos application, wich can edit it ??

Many thanks in advance ...
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                    University of Erlangen-Nuremburg,  Germany

Internet :          tnsturm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
                    ( tnsturm@immd8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de )
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com (Dave Kolb)
Subject: Re: Can someone post how to ask Microsoft a question on Compuserve
Originator: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:26:56 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1gl1hjINNp71@news.aero.org>, slewis@aero.org (Steven Lewis) writes:
|>

1 - logon to CIS
2 - go winnt
3 - compose a message
4 - select 1 of 14 forums for your questions (e.g. install, networks etc.)
5 - logoff
6 - wait 1 day
7 - logon
8 - if simple question you might get a response
    if bug go to 5
    if not so simple go to 5

Really, they are trying some but I find CIS pretty frustrating.

Better would be WNT phone support and incident numbers and a list of
known problems and solutions.



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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: dwightm@microsoft.com (Dwight Matheny)
Subject: Re: CD's supported by NT?
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:24:07 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

<< So do I need the CD-ROM after NT is installed or can I get by without it for
<< the time being (until Mediavision releases a working driver) ?

Not really, there are a lot of people out there that don't use the CD once they've
installed. If you choose to print the docs, you can always do that from DOS.

-Dwight

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull)
Subject: Re: Has anyone in Europe got Win NT Oct?
Keywords: Windows NT
Organization: Computer Power Software Group Pty Ltd
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:19:50 GMT

nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico E de Vries) writes:

>>Has anyone outside US got their October release of Win NT?
>>I live in Sweden and I still haven't got my October (December?) release!

Here in Australia we harrased Microsoft pretty hard and our first
copy arrived on Monday, our second today.  We have let Microsoft
here in oz know that we are rather sick of being treated as second
class citizens just because we are not working from the states.

In an ever shrinking world where having the edge in the software
development is often measured in weeks and months I consider it highly
neglegent at best to make and October release unavailable untill
December!  Not good enough!
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