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From: rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls)
Subject: Re: beserk puppy
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 15:53:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.190812.17811@infonode.ingr.com> mary@mkirk.b24a.ingr.com (Mary Kirk) writes:
>Close to three months ago, my husband and I ended our search and brought
>home a black standard poodle puppy.

Congratulations!  Welcome to the pack. :)

>This past weekend, Kodi was playing in the backyard.  My husband went
>outside to check on her.  She started growling at him, and then began
>barking a very strange, crazy bark.  I...could see that she was going
>beserk.  She was foaming at the mouth and jumping all around, while
>barking this terrible bark.  She wouldn't let me near her.

I've seen epileptic seizure suggested.  My vet also told me about a toad
that will cause a dog to foam at the mouth if the dog picks it up.
Evidently it tastes pretty bad, as well, which might account for the
weird bark and agitation you mentioned.  In any case, I'd check it out
with the vet...at least mention it at your next visit if she's ok for
now.  Hang in there, I know how tough it can be when your "kid" is
sick.

As for the crazy bark and "going berserk", my 2 year old GSD does some-
thing like that whenever I haven't gotten her enough exercise! ;-)
I wish we had video capability here...

Robbin (and Kelsey...certifiably loony GSD :)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 23:15:04 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Re: How do you fight a race track?
Comment-To: Kirk_Loftis@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
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  I have nothing against a dog track.  There are laws that I would
like to see strengthened to see to it that the dogs are treated
properly.  Fewer dogs produced, longer racing life, and some provision
to their retirement would be in order.
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From: rtorres@convex.com (Randy Torres)
Subject: Re: Itchy & Scratchy (beware brewer's yeast)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:46:06 GMT
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cole@unix.SRI.COM (Susan Cole) writes:


>The background is that Nova's back legs had become noticeably weaker this
>year, and that I have another dog who is allergic to fleas.  Because of
>brewer's yeast's reputation as a flea repellent, I started giving it to both
>of them with their food, following the "dosage" recommendations on the
>label.  Nova is a big dog so she got a lot.
What do people out there in net world think.  Is B.Y. better than skin-so-soft.
I would like to here some comments on that.

>With a short time, her legs had become so weak that she was falling
>frequently on walks and they trembled violently even when she stood still.  I
>never associated this with the brewer's yeast until I happened to read a
>posting on sci.med asking whether b.y. could exacerbate arthritis (I never
>saw an answer).  That made me wonder whether it could be having an effect on
>Nova.  I stopped giving it to her immdiately and within a couple of weeks her
>legs had improved dramatically.  She's now returned to her pre-b.y.
>condition and is pretty demanding of walks for an old dog!
I have heard of conditions like this happening in other dogs.  My vet. trys
to put his patients on proban or something of that sort.  I also heard that
proban can cause cancer.  Does anyone have any experience with proban?

>I can't say that proves that brewer's yeast is potentially dangerous to give
>a dog, and it has occurred to me that maybe I was should have reduced the
>amount because of her age.  But it's something to be aware of.
It would be nice to hear from others out there if they have had this same
experience.  I was thinking about brewer's yeast, proban, or continuing
with skin-so-soft.  The problem with skin-so-soft is that it is oily, and
leaves an oil feeling all over the house where my dogs have gone, but it
keeps the fleas off.

One other note, has anyone ever used BORAX in carpeting???


Randy
From: gordon.needham@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gordon Needham) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Search and Rescue
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: gordon.needham@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gordon Needham) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Freddy's Place BBS - Edmonton, AB - 403-456-4241

I have been looking at this conference for awhile now and have seen alot
of information on Rescue groups.  Looking at them further I noticed that
they are trying to rescue dogs from destruction. (Good Job)

Are there any dog owners that are involved in SEARCH & RESCUE ?

Later
Gordon Needham ... Edmonton

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From: kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: retorical question
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:07:36 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1689D8329.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>
> 
>Is doggy Heaven kitty Hell ?
> 
Well now, that depends on whether you're talking about claw sharpening
potential, or exercise quality.  :)

Kelly
From: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Bloodhounds, anyone ?
Date: 4 Nov 92 17:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 

On 11-04-92, ALBERTO ELFES wrote to ALL:

AE> I am collecting information on bloodhounds. Bloodhounds seem to be
AE> a rare topic on rec.pets.dogs, possibly due to the fact that they
AE> are a rare breed.

Also, unfortunately, short-lived...

Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)

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From: desouza@asmara.berkeley.edu (Paulo de Souza)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Cocker Spaniel - Looking for Info.
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:11:32 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: asmara.berkeley.edu


This months we might be moving into a house (if we get a loan) and
my daughter is close to realize her biggest dream of all - To have 
a DOG!

We are going through the procedure of choosing the breed. We got books
(with wonderful pictures!) and she is leaning towards a Cocker Spaniel,
but in some conversations I had with friends at work, they tell me that
Cockers are the most STUPID dogs you can get!

Is this really true ? What is the general opinion people here have about
cockers ? Does anybody know a good breeder in the Bay Area ?

Paulo Ney
desouza@math.berkeley.edu
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Foxhound
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:57:08 -0400

In <1992Nov9.225143.19694@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au>, Ms ML Hong writes:
>Does anyone have experience in keeping a foxhound as a pet in the
>suburbia ? Foxhound is not a common breed in Australian and I can't
>find much information from the library either.
i have coonhounds, which area closely related.  they are very noisy and likely
to annoy your neighbors.  i am lucky enough to have only 2 near neighbors, one
family likes the dogs and the other won't speak to us anyway.

i keep them crated in the house when i'm not home. they are only outside when
i'm home to supervise, and i bring them in when they get too noisy, especially
early in the morning when people may be still asleep.

coonhounds and foxhounds were both bred to follow scent trails.  if you leave
one loose they are likely to wander off following any animal or smell that
catches their attention, and may turn up 20 miles away, or never be found.
mine have a fenced in pen, unfortunately right next to the woodpile where
a family of rabbits lives.  they are always telling me about it.

i'm sure coonhounds are not common in australia although i have heard of a few
being imported there.  they are a family of american breeds closely related
to foxhounds and bred to hunt raccoons.
-- 
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From: terrih@mcnc.org (Terri W. Hardwick)
Subject: Re: TATOOING DOGS
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:50:32 GMT

In article <27430@oasys.dt.navy.mil> 275s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Wendy Bortnick) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone had their dog tatooed.  I was wondering whether it is painful
>and how long does it take.
>
>Wendy
>275s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Wendy Bortnick)


I've had 5 dogs tattooed.  Only one seemed to be in any pain - he screamed
the whole time, but he screamed when I made him do anything he didn't like -
he'd even scream if he THOUGHT I was going to correct him (Calais).  He
was very dominant and took great offense to being forced to do anything.
The others never seemed bothered at all.  Well, Marco seemed to have a bit
of skin irritation afterwards.
I did have to have Pooka tatooed twice.  The first tatoo was done by an
inexperienced person at a match, and it faded almost completely away within
a year.
Meg will be getting tatooed at the next tatoo clinic in the area.
BTW, all my dogs' tatoos are registered with the National Dog Registry.


Terri Hardwick 					(terrih@mcnc.org)
   	Apropos My Tigerlily PT CGC     (Terv)
   	Apropos My Marco Polo CD HT CGC (Terv)
	Meg CGC (Border Collie)

Gone but not forgotten - Siegfried Von Der Niebel CDX            (GSD)
		U-CD CH Fierami's Magical Mischief CDXTD HT CGC (Terv) aka Pooka
		U-CD    Calais de la Zia CDX HIC                (Terv)
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Help with Shepherds
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:44:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca

VV>if you don't fix it NOW. I have found that German Shepherds do tend to be on
VV>of the more destructive of breeds...

I don't know if they are more destructive than other breeds, but several
years ago I had a GSD that I made the mistake of leaving loose for a
short period of time, I came home and found that the dog had "Eaten" the
couch. Now I don't mean just a few tears, I mean the entire couch was
shreaded! It took her less than an hour to accomplish this. Thats how I
learned about crates and obedience training. Dogs generally chew for
about the first 2 years of their life (Large Dogs) allthough I have an
old lady that still likes to chew (gum) toys. I believe that wether or
not you are having a problem, you should take your dog through at least
a basic obedience course. This will establish you as the pack leader,
help to prevent future problems and make you and your dog happier and
easier to live together.

Kathleen Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening)
Subject: Re: Rescue Groups
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:37:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.134340.1862@netcom.com> artemis@netcom.com (Michelle Dick) writes:
>I noticed that the rescue group compilation is to only include
>purebreed groups.  

Whoa!!!!  Where did this come from?!?!?!  I don't recall saying this
and I don't recall reading this.  If I implied it then please, all the
mixed breed dogs out there, homeless or not, forgive me.  I have no
intention of leaving out any particular group of dogs in this list
and I welcome any and all mixed breed information.  Send away.

>You know, this group never fails to astound me with
>its purebreed snobbery.  

I think if you look at the regular reader/contributer to this group
you will see people who love a particular breed and will espouse all
of that breed's good points, etc., but I don't see this as purebreed
snobbery.  How may times have you seen something like this, " I just
adopted a XXX/XXX/? mix and I have a few questions." 

>The rescue group/foster home structure is
>used to place mixed breeds as well.  There are some fantastic
>organizations out there (I know of two in the Bay Area) that run
>foster homes for all sorts of dogs, mixed and purebred.  The foster
>home structure was critical in my finding another dog for our
>household, shelters were not set up to provide me with the kind of
>indepth info I needed.  The foster homes also give mixed breeds a
>better environment and save the dogs from euthanization.
>
>The remarkable thing is that the snobbery does not go both ways.  The
>mixed breed groups also took in purebreds, did phone referral for
>several of the area breed specific groups, and several of foster homes
>served as back-up foster homes for specific breed rescue groups when
>the standard list was full.
>
>Perhaps the voluteer compiler will reconsider the decision to exclude
>the all-breed rescue/foster organizations?  

Just to repeat myself, I don't remember ever considering leaving them
out.

>The listing of these
>groups would also help purebred searches since calling their
>information lines would give the searcher up-to-the-minute info on
>area rescue groups (and provide advice on finding the right breed,
>etc).
>
>--
>Michelle Dick
>artemis@netcom.com

Mike


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dencisco@eos.arc.nasa.gov (David Paul Encisco)
Subject: Re: Help with Shepherds
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:37:22 GMT

kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)  writes:

>TO: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca

>>if you don't fix it NOW. I have found that German Shepherds do tend to be on
>>of the more destructive of breeds...

>I don't know if they are more destructive than other breeds, but several
>years ago I had a GSD that I made the mistake of leaving loose for a
>short period of time

I'm sorry I missed Valaria's original question. It has been my
experience (I have -and had- adopted three discarded GSDs) that most
people don't realize how much attention the German Shepherds require;
particularly the first couple of years. Now I've never raised a
Shepherd from birth (so I'm no expert here), mine have all been given
up between a year and a year and half, but I wouldn't get a Shepherd
if I didn't have a lot of time (wouldn't it be nice if dogs were more
accepted in the work place...any teachers out there who take their dogs
to school?). Many a GSD has been given up after a couple has their first
child. I have two who were given up because of this and my next door
neighbor just gave up their male for a baby. Too bad, most people
just don't plan very well and it's the dog that suffers.

Dave
From: robbie@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: dog seat belts!! any good??
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:55:06 GMT
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

I haven't been active on this newsgroup for a while so if this issue has already
been discussed then I apologize in advance. 
Anyhow, I have recently heard that there exists seat belts for dogs. From what I
understand, this is a leather strap which attaches to the 
car's seat belt which must also have a shoulder strap. 
R.C. Steel carries dog seat belts. The price is under $10 U.S. 
I would be interested in hearing if these belts are any good or not.


Rob Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: My dog christie
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:05:27 +0100
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

I have a cross Labrador/Retriever who was once trained to be a guide dog.
He failed the test due to loud noises which made him panic.

Now every November the 5th he becomes an absolute wreck. 
Christie(Thats' his name) dives under tables, beds etc, and is
in a nervous state. We don't unleash fireworks or let him anywhere
near outside as he'd probably have heart-failure.

The trouble is hes' nearly ten years old and I am scared that
the next bonfire night might be his last as this can't go on forever.

We have tried everything except knock out drops which our vet reccommended
when we told him. For an ex-guide dog, he is some size and he is very
muscular build.

He also suffers from bad teeth and is forever rubbing his gums against anything
which will relieve the pain. I hate to see my pet suffering in this
way but couldn't face putting him to sleep.

He is as warm nd friendly an animal and even whens' hes' scared, he refuses
to become bad tempered.

Could anyone please give advice please!!!
I just don't know what to do next!!

Christies' owner (Graeme Wright)

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: beserk puppy
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:36:39 GMT

> D.G. Meads writes:
>
> When I read this I had to laugh!  This is how I describe one of my
> greyhounds
> when he goes nuts running around the dinning room table!  I guess since
> there
> isn't enough room to stretch out and sprint this "skootched under" action
> is the best way to achieve speed in a small area!
>
> I'll have to go home and tell ol Psilocybin that he's not alone in his
> madness!


He's certainly not alone! My dobie, Dante, also get's the sillies and runs
around the apartment like this. He seems to be pretending to be scared. He
also does it after I spray him for fleas :) To the skootching, he also adds
flying rebounds off the couch.


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From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons)
Subject: Re: Story for someone who wants to say "OH NO!!!!!"
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Keywords: uh oh
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:23:52 GMT


Amazing Grace, the 115+ lb Old English Sheepdog loved butter.  She was very
good at removing the butter dish from the kitchen counter, carrying it
into the living room and eating the butter off of it.  Afterwards, she
pushed it under the couch to hide it.  She was able to retrieve the 
butter dish from the counter for 4 years on a regular basis before she
finally dropped it and broke it.

The best?  She opened the cabinet under the kitchen sink, got out the
bottle of fish-emulsion plant fertilizer (STINKY!), took it into the living room
on the WHITE carpet, and opened it.  She then poured the bottle all over 
the floor.  The dog smelled like fish for days.  The carpet had to be
replaced.
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From: dricciar@pearl.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Westie Coat
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:15:48 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I have a 10 month old West Highland White Terrier and would like
some information regarding her coat.  A few months back she
lost some fur due to a flea allergy and sap drippings. The new
fur growing in is much whiter and coarser than her coat and it stays
white even when Nikita is covered with dirt/mud.  Will she shed
the old coat and grow a new coarser one in time? Is there any
thing I can do to speed up the process?  She is brushed and combed
daily, gets approximately 3 hours of outdoor activity with other
dogs daily, eats eukanuba puppy food with liquid vitamins added as well
as three teaspoons of liver (which is blended in a food processor) daily. 
She loves cow hooves and pigs ears as well as any droppings she can
find from other animals (which I find disgusting!). Any other
Westie info you care to share will be helpful as this is my first
dog. 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kathy@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu 
Subject: Re: mini rescue story
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:00:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University Computing Services, Norman, OK

In article <1689DD8F2.REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer) writes...
>In article <1992Nov9.042749.13338@midway.uchicago.edu>
>betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead) writes:
> 
>>
>>A good friend of mine seems to have her own unofficial shelter.  She's always
>>wanted one dog.  Just one.  But she's always got three--the legal limit.  Her
>>all time favorite dog passed away recently and she explained to me how he
>>came into her life and started this whole shelter off.
>>
>Three is a legal limit?  I didn't realize that some places HAD legal limits
>on the number of dogs a person could own.  I don't think I like that idea.
>If a person can prove that he/she has the ability to care for a dog, he/she
>should be allowed to choose how many dogs to own.
> 
>Comments, anyone?
Here in Norman, OK., there is a TWO dog limit!!  I am obviously breaking the
law but I was told that it was only enforced if your dogs cause problems.  I
think it's ridiculous!  My dogs are quieter and my yard cleaner than most one
dog households but all it would take is one neighbor to decide that maybe
they didn't want 4 dogs next door and I would have to move!  

............................................................................
Kathy Greenwood                | Mom to 
Math Major (believe it or not!)|   Loucha and Landry (Belgian Sheepdogs)
University of Oklahoma         |   Ruger (English Springer Spaniel)
                               |   Elsa (German Wirehair Pointer)
.............................................................................