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From: pete@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: dreams of god
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:03:06 GMT

s1400070@nickel.laurentian.ca writes:

>     There is a couple of common threads that run through the accounts of 
>all of these dreams:  
>(1) God seemed to have come to them at a time or in a place that was a complete
>    and total surprise.  eg. driving their car, football games, etc.
>(2) The voice of God was always an incredibly powerful yet calm, almost musical
>    sound.
>(3) God had always selected the person for something.  What that something was
>    never really was found out in any dream account.
>(4) In some dreams, a relative came in contact with the dreamer to tell that 
>    he/she was with God and not to worry...

You may be interested to read Phil Dick's speculations about similar 
experiences. Try his 'Valis' trilogy, beginning perhaps with 'Radio Free
Albemuth'. Be warned, this is pretty weird stuff.

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From: kanderso@reed.edu (Karl Anderson)
Subject: Re: dreams of god
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:55:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.015737.1445@colorado.edu> bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles) writes:
>
>Oh yeah, I sometimes hear a voice calling my name when I'm half asleep.
>I recognize it as a part of my subconscious trying to reach me; generally
>the next day I can retrieve interesting tidbits using standard autoquestioning
>techniques.

Could you please explain these?

k
From: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:27:21 GMT
Reply-To: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Brandeis University


 warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon) writes:
> All I know is that the little boy died in that same apartment some
>years back, the same apartment that they filmed the movie at.

That portion of the movie was filmed in a studio, not on location.
Alt.Folklore.Urbane discussed this topic to death this summer. If you want
supporting references, go ther and ask politely (they tend to be snappy
about topics that have been beaten to death)
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From: bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Organization: National Oceanic & Atmospheric Adminstration / Boulder Labs
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:34:31 GMT

In article <92348.184943MRP105@psuvm.psu.edu> Matt Pyson <MRP105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>In the same way that the people shooting Ben Hur managed to let a contemporary
>automobile appear in the background of a Roman Chariot race.

Or contails appear in the sky of a western movie.

>These things
>happen in movies. If it was discovered after principal photography was
>completed, they would not waste thousands of dollars to re-assemble their cast
>and crew just to fix a small glitch like that, which would most likely go
>un-noticed by 99% of the audience.

A recent example was the reflection of a production crew member in a control
panel on Romulus near the end of the second Spock episode on ST:TNG.

These things happen all the time.  It becomes a game, especially on the
poorly made movies, to see how many you can catch.  Then there are movies
that deliberately make mistakes, like the porn movie sequence in _Body Double_.

(For those who haven't seen the movie, the main character gets a role in a
porn movie at one point and we watch _that_ movie briefly.  The continuity
is horrible -- people who are at the bottom of some stairs suddenly appear
at the top after a cut, then appear somewhere else after another cut; later
the character walks through a door with a mirror on the back and as the
door swings back you get a clear view of the camera, cameraman and director).


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From: pete@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: The Monkey's Paw
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:19:56 GMT

kbanner@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Kenneth J. Banner) writes:
>Wasn't one of the T.V. versions a Twighlight Zone episode?
>(Vague memories from my childhood!)

I don't think so, but I do remember a fantastic episode of the 80's Twilight
Zone called 'Button, Button' that worked along similar lines. Quick Precis:

A neurotic couple are going somewhat stircrazy in their small flat. He's 
recently out of work and she chain smokes. They receive an unusual package
in the mail, a small wooden box with a clear lid, beneath which there is 
a button. A small keyhole adorns the side of the box.

While the couple puzzle over this thing the doorbell rings. A well dressed but 
peculiarly spoken fellow enters the room and asks whether they have received
"the button unit". When he sees that they have he produces a key. He explains
that with this key they may unlock the button unit, and once it is unlocked 
they will be able to press the button.

When they press the button, he explains, someone, someone they don't know, will
die. And the following day they will receive five hundred thousand dollars.

That's all he will say, and he leaves without answering any further questions.

Well, the couple spend several days fussing and fighting about whether or not
to press the button, but eventually they do press it. Nothing happens. There
is no click, no bright light, nothing. They press it again, and nothing. They
shake the box and hear nothing. They break the box open and there is nothing
inside. But the next day the strange man comes back, "to collect the button
unit".

The couple demand their money and he gives them a briefcase full of hundred 
dollar bills. They eagerly take it and begin to count it, and he turns to
leave, taking the button unit with him; the wife stops him and asks just what 
he's going to do with it. 

He says that he is going to give it to someone else. Someone they don't know.


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From: s1400070@nickel.laurentian.ca
Subject: 3 MEN & BABY: SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Laurentian University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:02:15 GMT

     I know the true story about the so called ghost in Three Men and a 
Baby and I am here to give it to you all once and for all.  

     The film was not shot in an apartment but on a soundstage in Toronto
Canada.  The "ghost" was a cutout cardboard prop of Ted Danson in a tuxedo
and top hat.  Remember that in the movie, Ted played the role of an actor.
As such, the director of the movie wanted to stress this characterization
by adding a prop of Ted's character ie the Cardboard cutout of himself which
was supposed to be a perk that he got from doing a commercial.  If you 
guys wathched the whole movie very closely, you would see a scene where Ted
is in deep thought ( reflecting ) and he just happens to be standing right
in front of this cutout of himself.  You can see it as clear as day!!!
Suddenly, though, when it is seen in a different scene, it is in the 
distance and out of focus and everyone says it is a ghost.  NO NO NO.

                                                 John 
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From: jswyt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John T Swyt)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Keywords: Ignore
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:01:44 GMT

In article <1gatktINNdbl@male.EBay.Sun.COM> warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave
Maycon) writes:
>Hello everyone, I am new to this net and don't know if anybody ever talked
>about the story with the boy figure in the move Three Men & Baby.  When
>I saw this for the first time it just sent chills down my spine.  Was
>this proof to millions of people that ghost do exist.  The company tried
>to cover up saying that was a cardboard figure, they got to be kidding.
>How could everybody on the stage miss that.  Does anybody out there
>know alittle more insight to this.  All I know is that the little boy
>died in that same apartment some years back, the same apartment that
>they filmed the movie at.

I heard about this and saw it in the movie, but I didn't think much of it
because I hadn't "officially" heard what the company had said of it.
It did send chills down my spine though has anyone else heard anything
concrete, meaning other than heresay?
                                        The Dog
     We're wanted men,
     We'll strike again,
     But first, let's have a beer!
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From: tnhe6@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: SA RR tracks...
Reply-To: tnhe6@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:50:46 GMT


	Tom,	(streeter@cs.unca.edu)

	Thanks for the clarifications regarding directions, etc. Please
	give us a full report when you return.

					Tim
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From: warman@eagle.sangamon.edu (Stan Warman)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Sangamon State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:36:38 GMT

Dave Maycon (warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM) wrote:
> Hello everyone, I am new to this net and don't know if anybody ever talked
> about the story with the boy figure in the move Three Men & Baby.  When
> I saw this for the first time it just sent chills down my spine.  Was
> this proof to millions of people that ghost do exist.  The company tried
> to cover up saying that was a cardboard figure, they got to be kidding.
> How could everybody on the stage miss that.  Does anybody out there
> know alittle more insight to this.  All I know is that the little boy
> died in that same apartment some years back, the same apartment that
> they filmed the movie at.
> 
> Dave
> 
I went through this scene in stop-motion and on one frame I could see
that it was obviously a figure with a top hat on. The studio said that
it was a cut-out of Ted Danson in a top hat. Watching the scene at
regular speed sure is spooky though!

      Stan Warman: Microcomputer Specialist
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From: jajmoore@leibniz.uwaterloo.ca (Moses Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: rE: "black" ghosts
Keywords: black, men-in-black, MIB, what's-that-behind-you?
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:40:59 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

The summer camp I used to go to as a kid had a "black" ghost visit one summer.
It was during the daylight that the most frightening encounter happened, thou.

For a week, the staff (all of them young adults or teenagers) had been seeing a
figure skulking about in the dark.  The staff living quarters are right on the edge of trees and misc. wilderness so it was easy to believe that someone was probably just walking around with dark clothing on.  A number of times this figure would be spotted waiting at the back doors to these buildings, but never stayed long enough to be approched or identified.

One bright afternoon, L is alone in the cabin marked "Health".  She's reading a book on the couch when she feels tense.  Looking up she notices out of the corner of her eye someone dark standing close to her with upraised arms.  She bolts up and runs to the bathroom, locking the door.  The door starts shaking under heavy blows, and she screams for help.  The blows continue, and stop suddenly.  Then her friends ask what's wrong from the other side of the door.  She opens the bathroom door and finds one of t





he kitchen knifes stuck in the door with the signs of repeated attempts at stabbing.

When I asked L about the details, she just blanched and walked away.


Another note:  the ominuous men that "come to get you in the middle of the night"
		i.e. CIA, FBI, NSC, CSIS, McDLT, etc. are referred to as fnord
		"(The) Men in Black".  Any relation?

		-Moses
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From: richardg@idca.tds.philips.nl (Richard Grear)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Dead relatives communicating from beyond
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:53:27 GMT
Reply-To: richardg@nofssrv.syssup.tds.philips.nl (Richard Grear)
Disclaimer: This is not necessarily the opinion of anyone else

There seems to be quite a lot of discussion about "dead relatives" - 
would someone be prepared to do some polling and gather some stats.?
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From: connie@uga.edu (Connie M. Doss)
Subject: Re: dreams of god
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:41:59 GMT

I had a weird dream last nite and was wondering if any one could help
explain it.  I went to my grandparents house to see how my uncle had
fixed it up.  My grandma died last year and granddad is in a nursing
home.  Well I went to the house and there was a picture of me as a
little girl standing in granny's flower bed (which is now hanging in my
living room for the past 2 years) and I looked at the picture and the
eyes started moving and following me.  It scared me for a second then I
wasn't scared anymore.  The eyes turned white and I seem to follow the
eyes and when I looked up to where the eyes lead the clouds were a
picture of God holding my granny and granddaddy in his arms like a new
born baby.  I cried for a while then ran home and told my husband and my
parents but they didn't believe me.  I took them to granny's house and
showed them the picture and it did nothing and there was no clouds in
the sky.  What does this mean? 

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From: lhales@ptdcs2.intel.com (Loyde Hales ~)
Subject: Re: "black" ghosts?
Organization: Intel Corporation -- Aloha, Oregon
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:12:28 GMT

In article <60000002@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com
(Tony Zugates) writes:

>Over the years, I have been hearing references to certain ghosts or 
>entities as being "black"..probably not referring to race, of course,
>but of the colour reflected off the entity.  Why the colour black 
>has popped up more than once may be coincidental.

...

>Hmmmmm.... Why not orange...or blue.  Are there multi-coloured 
>punk rock ghosts too?
>If anyone has any stories or encounters about ghosts exhibiting
>a penchant for colours, please post them...I'd like to hear them.
		^^^^^^^
			Real English!  :-)

I have heard of many colours of ghosts.  The normal ones seem to be white or a
paled version of whatever the colour was in life (e.g., a US Civil War Confed-
erate with a grayish coloured uniform and slightly coloured skin).

I think the "black ghosts" are just not reflecting light at all, or at least
not really.  Ergo, they appear as a darkened distortion in the field of
vision.

This, of course, assuming that they exist.



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From: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Voices in my house
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:37:36 GMT
Reply-To: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Brandeis University

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember an instance like that: I was 
fifteen at the time. I was lying in my room, reading a book, when I heard my
father calling me. I went downstairs to see what he wanted. He told me that
he hadn't called, but that he had been about to. My mother was also in the
room and she agreed that my father hadn't called.
From: casmith@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (CatherineArnott Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: REQUEST: The Monkey's Paw
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:18:17 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


"The Monkey's Paw" was written by William W. Jacobs (1863-1943).  It appeared
for the first time in his collection of short stories, published by Dodd, in
1902.  Source: my local public library and their Short Story Index.

Catherine Arnott Smith
Reference Librarian
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From: scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (Scottb)
Subject: Re: Another True-to-life ghost story
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 22:37:15 GMT

I have also had OOBE's, but never when I tried to on purpose.  Maybe someday
I will figure out how to do it on purpose/command, until then...
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From: lupshaw@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Seance Story
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:37:41 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1go8u0INNssh@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon) writes:
> I just wanted to share a seance story that happened to my brother and I
> when we were in the fifth and fourth grade.  Up to this point we never
> believed in communicating with the unliving.  One night in our room, we
> lit a candle, sat on the floor, and held hand with the candle in between
> us.  We didn't not know who to call since we haven't anybody close to us
> pass away at the time.  So we called any available spirit that could
> hear us calling (I know this sounds corny but we were so young).  After
> about 1/2 minute we heard 3 hard knock coming from inside our walk-in 
> closet.  We tore out of the room so fast that we did not sleep in there
> for about 4 days.  Until now, this is by the far the scariest thing
> that has ever happen to me.  Does anybody have any other seance story
> that you would like to share.  BTW, this is a true story.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
A few years ago my sister and a few of her friends decided to do a seance.  So
they proceeded to turn off all the lights except for one.  A few minutes into
the seance the light which was on was turned off and the t.v. came on.  And the
longer they looked at the t.v. the more they began to see a face though the
snow.  This had scared the poo poo out of all of them so they decided to stop. 
At first they thought that someone had the remote control and turned the t.v.
on, but it was one of those really old t.v.'s with the off on switch being a
knob.

lisa
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From: popiels@dvorak.Colorado.EDU (POPIEL STEPHANIE LYN)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Reply-To: popiels@dvorak.Colorado.EDU (POPIEL STEPHANIE LYN)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:51:31 GMT


This is my first post - so if I screw up please forgive me.

I've heard about this ghost before - but which scene is it in?  I have missed it every time I see the movie

Stephanie
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From: s1400070@nickel.laurentian.ca
Subject: A ghost destroys his earthly home.
Organization: Laurentian University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:46:22 GMT

     Here is a second hand ghost story that was told to me by the person who
experienced it.  She says that this incident has changed her life and made her 
quiter religious.
   
     This woman we will call Mrs. X.  One day Mrs. X was tending her garden and 
was genuinely frightened to see her father standing over her when she looked up.
Her father had died several years earlier.  She paniced and lost her breath but 
the ghost smiled and this calmed her down a little.  She says that he then spoke
to hr in a voice that sounded distant and faint.  He said only these words.
" This is how my house is to be destroyed. "  The ghost then turned on a nearby
water tap and fire came out instead of water.  The ghost vanished leaving only
a little char mark on the ground where the fire had hit the grass.  Mrs. X.  
immediately drove to her mother's house (her mother was still living) and told 
her of the vision that she had seen.  Together, both women, unplugged all
appliances, turned off the gas and told several neighbors to watch the house as
the mother would be staying at Mrs. X's house for the evening because she was
quite fearful that she would be trapped in the fire.
     Well, night passed and in the morning the two women called the neighbours
to see if the house was alright.  It looked perfect and, a little embarrased,
Mrs. X drove her mother home.  The house was definitely not burned down but
when the two women went inside, they realized that the basement had flooded.
It was not the fire that was the sign, but the fact that it came out of a water
tap.  It was later discovered that the flooding had caused so much damage to
the foundation of the house, that it was unsafe to live in.  Repairs would cost
almost as much as building a whole new house and ,therfore, the house was 
demolished.  The ghost had the last say afterall.

                                      John

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From: karen@gargoyle.uchicago.edu ()
Subject: Re: Dead relatives communicating from beyond
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:18:51 GMT


			After my father died (feb '86) I'd have this same exact dream over and 
over again.  In it my father would appear (sometimes in the back yard,
sometimes in the house) and go on with his daily routine.  I would become
very frightened knowing he was back from the dead.  
			I would tell him that he was dead, and he wasn't supposed to be here.
He wouldn't listen.  Then I would get confused and think maybe he wasn't 
dead, maybe I just wanted him dead. These dreams were so confusing to me
that I would wake up not knowing if he was alive or dead. 
			What I remember most about these dreams, were the feelings.  I sensed
my father was sad and lonely, and I was very frightened.  To this day,
I still have these dreams, although pretty sporadically now.  I wonder
if he was trying to tell me something.....

-Karen

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From: ehigh@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Egyirba High)
Subject: Re: Ghost dream
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:00:30 GMT


This has happened to me many times.  I'm usually lying on my stomach and become consciousof the fact that I cannot move.  I feel panicked but I tell myself that I will push myself up.  Then I count 1-2-3 or so and just push up. Boy, is that a scary feeling!







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