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From: klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado
Keywords: Confusion between EEO and AA
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:52:13 GMT
Distribution: rec

As evidenced by recent postings, there seeme to be a lot of confusion
with regard to Equal Rights and hiring quotas.  The only thing remotely 
resembling "hiring quotas" is the Affirmative Action programs mandated
by the federal government for all companies that do business with it.

Each company doing business with Washington, must put together and submit
an Affirmative Action program to address how it will implement AA programs.
Basically Affirmative Action says that where hiring decisions are to be made,
preferential treatment should be given to candidates from AA target groups,
all other factors being equal.  The federally recognised AA target groups are:
African Americans, Hispanics, Women, Native Americans and Asians/Pacific
Islanders.  These are the ONLY groups that receive preferential hiring
treatment.  

EEO (Equal Employment Opportunity) is different.  EEO basically states that
no employer may discriminate in hiring on the basis of race, religion, sex,
age, ethnic background, etc.  It says NOTHING about preferential hiring
treatment.  EEO also is applied to housing (sales and rental) where AA
has nothing to do with housing.  EEO also has to do with access to public
places, in that you can't disallow someone from entering a public place based
on race, religion, sex, etc.  Again AA has no impact here.

Affirmative Action ONLY addresses preferential treatment in hiring and
promotion for the 5 target groups.  A company need not have an AA plan
or program, but if they don't, they can forget about doing business with
Uncls Sam.

The local ordinances in Denver, Boulder and Aspen, that Amendment 2
struck down, basically extended EEO protection to gays within those 
jurisdictions.  NOTHING was said about quotas or preferential hiring treatment.
Simply that an employer or purveyer of housing cannot discriminate against
gays because of their sexual orientation.
Amendment 2, in addition, prohibits any other municipalities from enacting
legislation which grants gays protection from discrimination based upon
their sexual preference.  Again, NO mention of preferential treatment.

I'm not sure what this discussion has to do with motorcycles, but since it
is here, let's at least confine it to the FACTS.  If you don't know what
the various terms mean don't opinionate!  And please, if you haven't read,
and aren't familiar with CO amendment 2, don't try to discuss what it's about.

--
Ken Franklin 	They say there's a heaven for people who wait
AMA     	And some say it's better but I say it ain't
GWRRA           I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
DoD #0126       The sinners are lots more fun, Y'know only the good die young
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From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: Silver lining if Clinton gets elected
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:43:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.141845.4493@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy) writes:
>In article <1992Nov04.164115.23583@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>In article <2078@shaman.wv.tek.com> harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer) writes:
>>>
>>>>taxes.  It's time for a change alright, and the change is to dump Bush and
>>>>that idiot draft-dodger 3-year-old boy he's got for VP before they start
>>>
>>>Having a draft dodger in #1 position is not any more encouraging.
>>
>>A draft dodger, yes, but he's an intelligent draft dodger.
>>
>
>If he's so intelligent, why didn't he finish his Rhode's
>Scholarship?

He finished his scholarship!  He just didn't graduate.
-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
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From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: *** '74 KAW MACH II ***
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:29:05 GMT

>Tuesday November 10 1992 18:34, Jorg Klinger wrote to All:
> JK> In <3880162@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme
> JK> Harrison) writes:
> >> 1974 Kawasaki Mach II 400 triple.
> JK>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> JK>  I thought the Mach II was like H2 was like 750.
> JK>                    ???

In article <307.2B007661@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:

>The Mach III was the H1 500 triple, the Mach IV was the H2 750 triple, and
>I don't remember anything at all like a Mach II 400 triple in '74.

My olde rusty brain-pan is telling me that the Kwaker 2-stroke triple which 
my friend Brian and I (B.A.D. Racing = Brian And David) raced at A.I.R. and 
Clermont was an S2.  Or was it S3?  Hell that was in 1980.  Mebbe the 400 
was really a 350.  Mebbe the 400 used to BE a 350.  

Riddle:  What do you get when you bore a 350 out to 750?
============================================================================
 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412
From: ae219rh@prism.gatech.EDU (Ray Hixon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HONDA GB500 - club racer single.
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:21:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Being a Single-minded person:  why not go the Ascot route if
you need a big electric-start Single?  To put together a
killer Ascot that will be reliable, start easily, and run
rings around a GB500, you could:
   1) Buy a really good street Ascot  -- ~$800
   2) Buy a 38mm Mikuni               -- ~$150  (used -- ~$50)
   3) Buy the White Bros/Supertrapp pipe ~$150  (used -- ~$75)
   4) Buy a CBR600 Hurricane front end-- ~$450 or less
   5) Buy a CBR600 Hurricane rear wheel- ~$ 75 with disc and caliper
                                                holder
   6) Buy a set of Marzocchi shocks   -- ~$180  (rebuildable!)
   7) Buy and fit a CM400 intake manifold ~$20
   8) Buy a new throttle twistgrip    -- ~$ 20
   9) Put in the Arias 540cc kit      -- ~$200
  10) Put in a Megacycle 144-21 cam   -- ~$200 (valve guides needed)
                                         ------
                                         $2245

Okay -- it sounds like a lot of bucks for an Ascot, but what do
you get for this cash?  You get a 7000 rpm Single with about 40-45
hp (vs. the GB500's ~28).  You get double discs up front, with
real wheel sizes (2.5x17 front, and 3.5x17 rear), that you can
put any race rubber that you want on.  And when you want to do
headwork, it's not too hard to bump it up to 50-52 hp (I've
been racing against Sammy Brown's 52 hp 540 all year).

Obviously, the engine requires a bit more upkeep than the GB500
does, but as long as you religiously change oil and adjust valves
(and use 93 octane fuel), you shouldn't have problems.

(Use Golden Spectro oil, too).
----------------------------------------------------------------
Ray Hixon
A Single-minded Guy
WERA #623 Expert
'92 SE Regional Clubman Champ (Expert)
1982 591 Ascot (57 hp, short fuse)
-- 
Ray Hixon
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!ae219rh
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From: markt@cup.hp.com (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: Rubber brake hose failure?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:08:20 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

>	However, (correct me if I'm wrong) the thing about rubber lines
>	is that they can partially seal a small leak without complete loss of
>	braking power, wheras stainless lines, if they leak, they leak.

My understanding is that the SS is only on the outside to restrain the
rubber on the inside. So whatever benifit you get from using rubber lines
in terms of leakage would also apply to SS lines. (correct me, too, if i'm
wrong).

Mark
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From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Subject: Re: DoD
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 19:18:20 GMT

In article <Uez7p=m00iV084wHtd@andrew.cmu.edu> John Robert Nadzam <jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Can anybody tell a newcomer WTH Do means?
>
>No as a matter of fact we can't.
>

Well, actually, we CAN, but then, of course, we'd have to.. oh, nevermind, you
know the rest.

ObMotoPriceGougeBitch: A bolt for the centerstand on my EX is 4 bucks. The nut
                       that holds it on is 2 bucks. I found a bolt and nut at
                       a hardware store that works for 75 cents. Sigh.

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\ Mackey /     Social Engineer     \ '89 Kaw EX500 / 587 \  my  opinions...  /
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From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Selling Suzuki Katana 750
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 00:54:41 GMT


I've decided to sell my 89 Suzuki Katana, which I bought new in 90.

It's the red/white/blue model, has never been crashed  It's been dropped
but all broken parts were replaced.

14,400 miles.

Asking price:  $2500


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        We should measure progress not by how many laws can
        be passed but by how little governing people need.
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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Big Yam?
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 14:30:22 GMT

Sorry, I missed one vital point...


Thanks Charlie - in advance.


Nick (the Grateful Biker)   DoD 1069   MAG 73516   Go-Faster catalogue (soon)


M'Lud.


Sidecar>  When are you coming over then so that we can swap stories of fast 
          ladies and big bikes  or was it big ladies on fast bikes or big bikes
          with fast ladies on the or....   "Fat bottomed girls, you make this 
          wicked world go round" - Queen.
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From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Subject: Re: Tracks
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom, Engineering
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:23:50 GMT

In article <BxH38E.A2L@news.iastate.edu>, tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
> 
> Just curious: how far does the average weekend racer have to drive to get to 
> a track in other parts of the country?
>
From here in Atlanta there is:
   Road Atlanta - 1 hours
   Roebling Road (Savannah) - 3 hours
   Talledaga (Alabama) - 5 hours
   Daytona (Florida) - 7 hours

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
KotBBBB (1988 GSXR1100J)  AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210
From: x91nikorawal@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: FOR SALE:: KAWASAKI KZ 750 (CHEAP) !!
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:40:03 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

 Kawasaki KZ 750 for sale !!!!!!

 Excellent condition (including paint)
 Beautiful handling and 'curbing'
 Emmense torque !!
 Two helmets included !

 Price :: $ 700 (Have to part with it due to financial difficulties !)

 If you (or someone you know is interested, please send me an e-mail mess.)

								Percy.
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: EX-500 Parts For Sale
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:15:38 -0500
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Organization:  

Hi,

	I was rummaging through my basement looking for something completely
different, when I discovered the stock windscreen from my old EX-500, and
a spare right mirror.  If anyone needs these parts, I will ship them
for $45.

Rob
--
Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon) "It hisses on snakes."   AMA 642916   DoD 0593
'79 XT500 (The Bitch)        '90 Plymouth Laser RS (Sweetie)
From: bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Brad LaBroad)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HONDA GB500 - club racer single.
Summary: It's Swell
Keywords: light, inexpensive, light, cute, light, simple, light
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:50:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.7571
Reply-To: bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Pokey Folk on Parade

In article <DUKE.92Nov12131222@portal.paperboy.osf.org> duke@portal.paperboy.osf.org (Duke Robillard) writes:
>
>wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich) writes:
>
>   jbothwel@bnr.ca (James Bothwell P920) writes:
>   >Saw a GB500 in a Honda Dealer's showroom last week.  The styling 
>   >is iffy but I like the weight and the torque of the big single.
>   >The narrow tire should make the bike responsive but would lower the 
>   >maximum cornering force.  Any comments on this bike from netland??
>
>   Iffy?  Iffy!  I think they're damn cute.  
>
>Yeah, me too.  I love mine.  It's like a Norton that starts every
>morning.  (I bought a Miata for the same reason--it's like an MG
>that starts every morning).
>
>It's my first bike, and perfect for it--small and light, but hot
>enough to still be interesting 2 years later.

Count me in as another GB500 lover. I've only had mine a year; it is my
eighth bike. I plan to keep it when I buy another, larger, two-up type
ride. 

Although I'm a pretty average height for the testosterone-enabled
(5'9") I have the 29" inseam another poster felt was diminutive. The GB
would be an ideal bike for the dimensionally-challenged. Coming off an R90
I can't say the thing is a torque-monster, but generally speaking I'm
able to squirt around the countryside with fellow denizens without
falling too far behind. The tighter the twisties the happier this little
bike is, too. It is immensely flickable. Take my handling impressions
with a grain of salt, though, I am not a bonzai rider...this is how it
feels to *me*. 

Things I particularly like are its small, "personal" size; it has a
kickstarter and electric start; its cheap to feed; it was relatively
inexpensive to buy ($2600 for a '90); it's light; it makes a swell (but
socially acceptable) sound at full chat while being quite civilized at
idle and loafing speeds; it's got plenty of poot for my I-am-not-a-squid
needs.

Things I don't particularly like are...um, no passenger accomodations
(but if there were, many of its positives would go away); it's a *tiny*
bit cramped for long rides; no hard bags :-) can't pull a trailer;
sidecar rigs are right out; excessive chrome reflections sometimes get
in my eyes, it's so reliable I never have an excuse for sitting around
the house drinking beer--I have to be wholesome, stay sober and go
riding...etc.

Iffy? No, nifty! Get one.



--
=============== Apply Disclaim-All (tm) to Affected Area ===============

Bradlee T. LaBroad	
bradlee.t.labroad@TEK.COM       			GB_500   DoD#389
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Date: 7 Nov 1992 22:07:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov06.214759.14338@gecko.uucp> ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp
(Ed Campbell) writes:
>    Read it again, but this time, shift your bias generator to
>neutral. What it says is that it is not legal to make laws, regulations,
>rules, etc. discriminating against anyone for *NOT* being a member
>of one or more of the listed groups.

That's the way it's packaged.  Do you always believe what
politicians tell you?

>    You have every right to your preference and I will respect that
>as long as you give the same respect to others. BUT, don't go around
>bitching because the powers that be do no see fit to give you
>special treatment because of your choice. Just suppose for a moment

This argument would apply equally well to religion.

>I bet you would squack against that 
>law too if you were aced out of the job by someone with equal qualifications
>but a higher "minority" standing because of a preference for chikens
>or pronghorn sheep.

If the amendment only restricted preferential treatment,
this argument might be reasonable.  It does much more
than that.

>     THINK fool, you are complaining about an ANTI-discrimination
>law that does a lot more for you than you think in that it says
>that you are no different from anyone else and therefor, should
>be treated just like anyone else.

If John could rely on being treated like anyone else, he
probably wouldn't be upset about this law.

Far from being an anti-discrimination law, this amendment
makes it impossible to pass new anti-discrimination laws.
I don't buy the idea that it's civilized for the majority
to reserve the right to discriminate against unharmful
minorities with whom they disagree, and that's exactly
what this law does.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Results of make your own Electric vest
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:40:54 GMT
Reply-To: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1340@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
>	What were the results of making your own electric vest...Is it
>	feasable??  what about making handle bar grip heaters???  A
>	heated saddle?

Lance Holst tried the heated saddle.  His report wasn't favorable,
but then, his methods weren't very scientific.
--

P.M. Smith
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Date: 07 Nov 92 21:39:53 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In rec.motorcycles datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
;"Grin and bear it" seems to be the English way.

I thought "hanging on in quiet desperation" is the English way.

ObMoto:  I won't be in Colorado either.

---
chris
From: johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Clutch Cable Broke
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:25:12 GMT
Reply-To: johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <BxEvL4.2uv@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  
(Dances With Bikers) writes:
=>johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.) writes:
=>
=>>I just bought a 195 Honda Shadow 500cc.  The clutch was very difficult to  
=>                 ^^^
Sorry, I meant 1985
=>What's that, 1797 years old? Sounds like it should be in a museum
=>instead of on the road. :-)
=>
=>>pull back so I squirted some wd-40 down the cable and was working the  
clutch  
=>>back and forth when the cable broke.  I ordered a new cable yesterday, but  
=>>was just wondering if I need to worry about there being a problem with the  
=>>cluch itself or if the cable was probably just old and broke.
=>
=>My guess is that the cable had frayed over the years, and that's what
=>was causing the stiff pull. How did it break, seperation of the strands,
=>or did you pull an end off the cable? Any kinks or damage to the outer
=>sheath?
=>-- 
=>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com   
BIX:blaine_g
=>580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
=>Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
=>My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not  
Marked
The end pulled off of it.  I didn't find any problems with the outside of it.

John
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlarrond@dcc.uchile.cl (LARRONDO FLORES JAIME ALEJANDRO)
Subject: Virago
Originator: jlarrond@dcc.uchile.cl
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:30:03 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion

 would like to know the the approximate price of the following motorcycles,
I am interested in buying one of them.

yamaha, virgao 750 and 1100, years 1986 to 1990 (including)

thank you
From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 350->750 Riddle
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:18:49 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <BxKL51.34u@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:
>Wednesday November 11 1992 09:10, The Nashville Flash wrote to All:
> >Riddle:  What do you get when you bore a 350 out to 750?
>
>John Hamilton:  
>>A  handgrenade?
>
>Bzzt.  While that's probably true, that's not the answer we were looking for.
>Thank you for playing.
>
>Eric Murray:   
>>Metal shavings.
>
>Bzzt.  While that's definately true, that's not the answer we were looking 
>for, either.  Thank you for playing today, too.
>
>Blaine Gardner 
>>A stack of very large washers?
>
>DING! YES!  Why DwB must have an olde musty stack of Duct Tapes lodged in 
>his head.  The riddle was the brainchild of Ed Hertfelder.  Tell him what he 
>won, Johnny.
>
I remember the story.  He was refering to old British iron used in mud bog 
side car racing.  I think it was Nortons he was talking about.  

How tall was his friend "Shorty" that help him post enduro trail markers?  
I liked that story better.

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From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: Turning on bumpy roads
Date: 07 Nov 92 21:52:02 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In rec.motorcycles egreen@east.sun.com writes:
;40 mph is plenty fast enough to kill ya, boy, an' I go faster'n that
;every day.

Then how come yer still alive, hah???

"A shot in the head's plenty sufficient enough to
kill ya, and I shoot myself in the head every day."

;That's dumb.

No shit.

---
chris
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