HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: grau@tnt.uni-hannover.de (Oliver Grau)
Subject: Some errors in Khoros
Reply-To: grau@tnt.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:40:40 GMT


I have found some errors in Khoros (Vers.1 PL 5) libraries. I know that there is no 
more support on version 1, but perhaps it helps to fix the buggs in version 2 of
Khoros or someone has the same problemes like me and wants to fix the buggs in
the current version of Khoros.


- Routine "kfread"

in KHOROS_HOME/src/Lib/vgparm/transport.c Line 1135:

	return(num/nitems);

must be:

	return(num/size);

for compatibility with fread and the Khoros manual.


- Routine "kfgets" 

in KHOROS_HOME/src/Lib/vgparm/transport.c Line 1455:

	} while (--i > num);

should be:

	} while (--i > 0 );



The matrix-routines lminvert, lmmult and lmtrans (and perhaps some other)
don't free temporay memory. The effect on multiple calling this routines is,
that the process memory grows. In my case it grows over allowed (virtual) mem size.

-  Routine "lminvert"

in KHOROS_HOME/src/num_analysis/matrix_algebra/minvert/minvert.prog in Line 192 
before the Return-statement the following statement should be included:

	free(mat);


- Routine "lmmult"

in KHOROS_HOME/src/num_analysis/matrix_algebra/minvert/mmult.prog in Line 205
before the assignment "image1->imagedata = (char *)mat;" a free of the
original data should be done:

	free(image1->imagedata);


-  Routine "lmtrans"

in KHOROS_HOME/src/num_analysis/matrix_algebra/minvert/mtrans.prog in Line 173 
before the Return-statement the following statement should be included:

	free(mat);




Oliver
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From: mathew@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Mathew Yeates)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Motion Analysis
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:04:55 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
NNTP-Posting-Host: henry.jpl.nasa.gov

ttcain@vangogh.lerc.nasa.gov (Maureen Cain) writes:

>Hello!

>	Are there any Toolboxes out there for doing motion analysis?  What I 
>want to do is calculate velocity of shedding ice particles.  I have a sequence 
>of frames and if I can find the distance, in pixels, from a reference point in 
>the frame to the ice particle I can calculate the velocity.  The problem is that
>from frame to frame the reference point may not have the same x,y coordinate. 
>Selecting the reference point manually may not be quite accurate.  The same 
>problem holds for selecting the point on the ice shape.  

>	Perhaps it is possible to do this with the routines packaged in Khoros?

>Thanks for any light you can shed on this (no pun intended!!)
>Maureen Cain

There are two template matching routines in the toolbox RLAB available in
the Khoros contrib directory. The first assumes only translation of the
reference point. The second does rotationally invariant matching and is
slower than the first.

Mathew
From: schultz@hivehom.serc.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: colormaps?
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:04:35 GMT


...
   > Can I do this mapping? Waht data does
   > EDITIMAGE see - the 8 bit or the 16 bit? 
   Editimage gets the 16bit data but maps them according to the map. So the
   data you interactively work with is the result from the mapping process(8bit).
Unfortunately putimage seems to know about the underlying data so that
the pixel display shows real image intensities, not just the 8 bit
displayed intensities. Editimage seems to operate on only the 8 bit data. :-(

   > What happens if I use
   > the second map (which must be of type LONG or FLOAT) to store the
   > histogram? I only want 8 bits of data for the display but the "other"
   > colormap (which is actually a histogram) must be at least 4 bytes/entry.
   You cannot have two different data storage types for maps in a single
   viff file. As the Histogram is not really a map anyway, i'd suggest writing
   it into another file.

While I might end up doing this, my preference was to stay within the
VIFF I/O structure so I did not end up reading/writing a lot of custom
images.

Thanks for the very understandable comments.
From: suresh@tomahawk.me.gu.edu.au (Suresh Hungenahally)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: help on crosscorrelation
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:04:37 GMT

Hi,
I have been using khoros for some time now. I would like to be on
 the mailing list.

I am having trouble with one of my needs:
1. I wish to preform a cross correlation between two images and 
determine the index of correlation.
2. The purpose of this is see how close the images are to each other.
any other method to do the same will also be appreciated.

thanks. regards. suresh
From: kboland@egr.duke.edu (Keith)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: edge detectors in khoros
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:01:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42438


Hi,

I am in need an edge detection program that will 
process fixed-sized 2D images.  I understand that
the khoros system has two programs called vdrf and vsgf.
Unfortunately, I do not have sufficient disk space to
ftp over the entire khoros system.  Is there any way
I can obtain the edge-detectors as stand-alone modules
(along with some documentation)?

Thanks in advance,

- Keith Boland
  kboland@egr.duke.edu
From: daniel.albrecht@jrc.it (Daniel Albrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: xvroutine installation #0
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:25:09 GMT


Hello,

I am interested in writing XVroutine.
I usually work with 512*512 B/W (8 bits/pixels)images.
I use a Sun4 standard machine (O.S. (4.1.2)) + Khoros(1.0) + Fortran(1.5)
I just have one and only one architecture.
I know very well 'C' language but I am NOT that used to Xwindows
programming.

Under ~/khoros I added my toolbox called "fringe0".

~/.......
~/khoros
        ~/khoros/src/.....
        ~/khoros/doc/.....
        ~/khoros/fringe0/.....    ---> !!!!! there it is !!!!!!
        ~/khoros/repos/.....
~/.......

Under ~/khoros/fringe0/src/vtst2, I wrote a nice XVroutine "vtst2.*" which
works perfectly (rare, isn't it)!!!

-------------------------
| I want to install it. |
-------------------------

Having a look to Vol II, page 1-31, I have done this :

I just have one and only one architecture( --> NO use of ksrcconf program).

        ~/khoros/fringe0/src/vtst2>make install
        ~/khoros/fringe0/src/vtst2>rehash
        ~/khoros/fringe0/src/vtst2>mv vtst2.1 ~/khoros/fringe0/man/man1

Up to this point, NO psychotic reaction from the system.

PROBLEMS :
========

- within vtst2 subd., ~/khoros/fringe0/src/vtst2>vtst2 -i lena.vif(cr)
  vtst2 works perfectly but when HELP is required,
  the content of vtst2.1 appears with NO special
  character(nroff,troff??? commands ex.: .SH, .TH ...) interpretation.

- If I go to another subdirectory, ex.: #>cd ~/khoros/fringe0, an
  ERROR message appears telling me, that the system do NOT find
  vtst2.form.

Questions :
=========

What is wrong with my installation ???

        - why do NOT I have (nroff,troff??? commands ex.: .SH, .TH ...)
          interpretation ???
        - why the system do NOT find the right path for vtst2.form,
          though this path is correctly mentioned in lvtst2.c
          source file ???

Regards

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From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Changing palette during animate?
Organization: City University, London
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 18:42:39 GMT

Is it possible to change the palette or probably the
look up table while animating? I have an animation
from an image sequence with only 9 greyscales, so it
would be useful to see the individual greyscale picked
out on its own by turning down the other greyscales.

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: dominic@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca (Dominic Richens)
Subject: References to Khoros UIDS
Followup-To: poster
Originator: dominic@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca
Keywords: UIDS, User Interfaces
Organization: MCRLab - University of Ottawa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 01:25:05 GMT


Have there been any articles published that describe the Khoros User 
Interface Development System (Khoros 1.0 version)?  I know about the 
XHibition'92 paper by Argiro and Rasure, but that talks about the plans for
Khoros 2.0.

Incedentally, are any Khoros enthusiasts going to SPIE Medical Imaging VIII?

thanx

dominic

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From: jogl@merry.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: colormaps?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 11:37:29 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
Distribution: comp
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In article <SCHULTZ.93Jan8170850@halley.est.3m.com> schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz) writes:
>Basically I do not understand how colormaps should/can be used.  For a
>single band image is it valid to think of them as a lookup table?
> ...
>  For example the kitten
>image distributed with Khoros looks the same on an 8 bit SPARC display
>whether I use the colormap or not.   Why?

hi,
 
sorry, i do not understand the question, but the task is quite simple:

one-band khoros images look like this:

header map image-data
------=====+++++++++++++++...

if there IS a map, and you use putimage to display the image,
a byte/int/short from the image-data is taken and
map[image-data] is displayed.

if you use "putimage -use_cmap false" the "raw" image-data WITHOUT
the map information is used.

the image-processing tools ALWAYS use the mapped information,
so it is NOT GOOD to add optional maps INSIDE the image.
you can use "stand allown" map-files with the "[-cmap_image]"
parameter form putimage.

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From: sauer@chama.eece.unm.edu (Tom Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Khoros & Solaris2.1
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:42:13 GMT

Hi,

On Jan 4,  6:23, Serge Robinson wrote:
} Subject: Khoros & Solaris2.1
>> 
>> 	We are using khoros on Sun workstations and under SunOS4.1.2
>> until now. We are thinking of a possible use of Solaris2.1 and we are
>> wondering if your products are available for Solaris2.1.
>> 
>> 	I'm a system administor in my company which is mentionned at
>> the end of this email. Your usual correpondants here are Mr Lafont and
>> Mr Benjelloun. Please could you accept me as a third correspondant?.

We have not tried to port Khoros 1.0 PL 5 to Solaris 2.1. I have talked
to one person that spend a couple of days working on it and had lots of
problems. Also, we are not planning to port Khoros 1.0 PL 5 to  Solaris.

If you are heavily using Khoros, I would stay at SunOS 4.1.2 until
Khoros 2.0 comes out this summer. Khoros 2.0 will run under Solaris 2.1.

If anyone out there has done a successful Solaris port, we would like to
get the diffs from you.

>> 
>> 	Thanks ahead and Happy New Year
>> 
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Thanks,

Tom




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From: goeppert@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Josef Goeppert)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros,comp.ai.neural-nets
Subject: Any implementation of neural nets for KHOROS available ?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 12:55:21 GMT
Organization: "Lehrstuhl fuer Technische Informatik, Uni Tuebingen"
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: charlie.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de
Keywords: khoros, neural nets


Khoros is providing a poverfull tool for signal processing and 
image processing tasks. Are there any Khoros users or Neural 
Net researchers out in netland, who have implemented neural 
nets for Khoros. Is there a neural net toolbox for Khoros available ?
I am interested in Backprop., Quickprop., Kohonen's SOM, etc ...

Thanks for any pointes

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros,comp.os.linux
From: hank@informatik.uni-essen.de (Hendrik G. Seliger)
Subject: Re: Khoros for linux ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:29:28 GMT
Organization: Uni-Essen
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

There might be other people interested in Khoros (like myself).
I'd really appreciate if you wouldn't restrict yourself to emailing
in silent loneliness but if notes on success/no success would also be placed
at this place. Thanks!

Hank.
From: dave@nimrod.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Dave Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: (none)
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:22:47 GMT

Hi, everybody.

Concerning implicit vs. explicit location data:

I noticed that many routines simply ignore the location information (such as 
dfft1d).  Many other routines will not process files with explicit location
info (such as vextract, and many of the other signal manipulation routines).

1. Are there plans for 2.0 to be more complete regarding location info?

2. Is there a way to strip the location data from a file and make it image 
   data?  How about the other direction (image data -> location data)?

David Edwards
dave@chaos.idec.sdl.usu.edu
Space Dynamics Laboratory
Utah State University
Logan, UT 84321
From: floyd@carson.u.washington.edu (Bharath Modayur)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Khoros on HP9000 running HP-UX 8.0
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:53:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1iabkbINNt4e
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
	We tried to build khoros on HP 9000 running HP-UX 8.0
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

X Error of failed request:  BadFont (invalid Font parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  55 (X_CreateGC)
  Resource id in failed request:  0x2400037
  Serial number of failed request:  121
  Current serial number in output stream:  123
Major X error encountered for display 'volta:0.0'! Unable to recover.

X Error of failed request:  BadFont (invalid Font parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  55 (X_CreateGC)
  Resource id in failed request:  0x2400038
  Serial number of failed request:  122
  Current serial number in output stream:  124
Major X error encountered for display 'volta:0.0'! Unable to recover.


Error! The following cantata error has occurred:
        Segmentation violation...



	I thought this could be because the HP stations do not
have the required fonts. But when I run cantata from a SUN SPARC
using the HP station as a display terminal things work fine.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Bharath

bharath@george.ee.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: kboss@soils.umn.edu (Ken Boss)
Subject: Moran's I coefficient of spatial autocorrelation
Keywords: autocorrelation
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:07:26 GMT

Does anyone know of a procedure or set of procedures in
Khoros that will calculate Moran's I coefficient for an
image?  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks--
        Ken Boss 
        Remote Sensing Lab
        University of Minnesota 

Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: fsistler@gumbo.age.lsu.edu (Fred Sistler)
Subject: how to read/write individual pixels
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-19906]: gumbo.age.lsu.edu
Keywords: pixels grey level
Organization: Louisiana State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:43:30 GMT


-- 
I am new to Khoros and need to perform some low-level image
processing functions - specifically reading and writing grey levels of
individual pixels.  Any suggestions on how to do that?
I appreciate any help you will offer.


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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: zingman@saturn.tcs.com (Jonathan Zingman)
Subject: Information
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:02:43 GMT

Is there an FAQ for khoros, or a way that we can get information on acquiring
khoros?  In addition, we'd like to know if there are PD libraries available,
specifically for use with MPEG or JPEG coding.  Any help is appreciated.

Please respond by e-mail.


Jonathan Zingman	(510) 649-3436
TCSI
2121 Allston Way	zingman@tcs.com
Berkeley, Ca.  94704

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From: kk@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Konstantinos Konstantinides)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:11:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Building khoros on HP9000 running HP-UX 8.0
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
From: Peter.Averkamp@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Averkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Khoros Info Wanted
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:36:40 GMT

On Jan 3, 19:24, Oscar Linares wrote:
{ Subject: Khoros Info Wanted
> 
> I would like information on khoros.  Specifically, what platforms is it available for?, is it
> X compatible or is there an X version?, what does it have to offer in terms of image
> processing? and most importantly, How can I obtain it?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Oscar A. Linares
> e-mail oscar@msen.com
}-- End of excerpt from Oscar Linares


here's the latest khoros FAQ, that should answer all your questions:



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From: Mishi Saravi <mishi@olympus.engr.utk.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: (none)
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:28:44 GMT

I am trying to build 486 binaries using "cc and gcc 2.3.3". I get the following
undefined references when compiling xvroutines:

Undefined Symbol                   Library
getwd                              libxvutils.a
expm1                              libvexpr.a
rint                               libvexpr.a
log1p                              libvexpr.a

If you know what library has the above rotuine please let me know. 

Mehrdad Saravi

Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: umarsa00@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (PROF. A.S. UMAR, (615)322-2459)
Subject: CAN ANY ONE SEND ME THE FAQ
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:58:00 GMT

I would like to recieve the FAQ for this group. How can I get it?

umar@compsci.cas.vanderbilt.edu
From: Xiaogong.Lee@afcesa5.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject:  Problems using KHOROS
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:00:05 GMT



I got the KHOROS v1.0 Patch Lever 5 install on my SGI station, (Personal
IRIS running v4.05 Operating System).  I am having problems displaying
images.  The problems are:

      1) To display the images with correct grey level, the pointer must stay
in the Pane Icon window.  Otherwise, the colors (grey level) are not correct
and with a lots of noise.  If the pointer stays in the Pane Icon window, the
image display is correct, but the entire screen becomes black except the image.

      2) The interactive LUT does not work.  The colors cannot be changed.

      3) When the zoom option is select, X Error occurs.  The error message
reads:

      X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attrivutes)
        Major opcode of failed request: 72 (X_PutImage)
        Minor opcode of failed request: 0
        Resource id in failed request:  0x4000041
        Serial number of failed request: 6750
        Current serial number in output stream: 6751
      Major X error encountered for display 'DISPLAY:0.0'! unable to recover.

I communicated with Mark Young in earlier last month.  He told me that there
was a bug in the software while using 24 bit color display and suggested me
to use Xsgi to reset default values.  I tried to use Xsgi and could not get
it to work.  What should I do next to solve this problem?  Please help.

Thanks,

Xiaogong Lee
Applied Research Associates, Inc.
Tyndall AFB, FL 32403
(904) 286-5755

PS: I have been using the KHOROS prior to the Patch Level 5 and did not have    s
this kind of problems.
QUIT

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From: zurna!sinan@sunup.west.sun.com (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Beginner question
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:49:47 GMT


 When I run Cantata under OpenWindows 3 and make connections
between applications no lines are visible. However the 
connection works. What is the trick to make the lines visible?
Sinan
From: coinunipdm@geod.geonet.de
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: ORDERING KHOROS
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:06:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42566

In the german magazine ix 1/1993 a report describing KHOROS is published.  
We're working in the field of computer graphics and computer vision and
we're interested to get the software package KHOROS. We work on 
DEC 5000/125 computers using UNIX and X11R5. Please send us the conditions
to sale the tape and the printed documentation. Is the price $250,
as this magazine reported, correct?


Yours Mr. Grathwohl

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