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Subject: Just read the FAQ.
From: filippi1@husc11.harvard.edu (David Filippi)
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:10:40 EST
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I'm new to the group, and have just plowed through the FAQ.

With regard to the "sit Lady" UL, it recalls a scene from an old b&w movie
(The Maltese Falcon) , main character Sam Spade, in which detective Spade
is thrown into a jail cell with several black men.  The prison guard comes
and says "Get up, Spade," at which point all the black men stand up, and 
etc. 

I remember seeing this when very young, and asking my mother what the joke
was.  Interesting that the focus of tension should shift in the UL from
white/black to male/female with a black man in the aggressive position...

I don't believe this movie is shown anymore, for obvious reasons.  It is
certainly not the famous "Maltese Falcon," but I believe it was a spoof
with the same name.

Can anybody confirm this?

(Apologies if this has appeared before; I am new to the group.)
--David Filippi
(filippi1@husc.harvard.edu)

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From: neil@palnu.demon.co.uk (Neil Motteram)
Subject: Re: Amusing signs 
Distribution: world
Organization: Omron Electronics Europe BV
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:49:32 +0000

In Amsterdam South we have little dog crapping icons in stone on the
pavement ('sidewalk' for the people who speak the other language) and
and an arrow marked 'In the Gutter'

Palnu

No Sig!
From: starfish@stein.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Druggie, gang-member teens suck pacifiers
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:09:28 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

ltf@ncmicro.lonestar.org (Lance Franklin) writes:

>starfish@stein.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky) writes:
>}Now, I KNOW this must be true, because my mom mailed me the newspaper article:
>}
>}KIDS SINK THEIR TEETH INTO A NEW FASHION TREND--COLORFUL PACIFIERS
>}by Jeff Donn
>}The Associated Press
>}
>}   SPRINGFIELD, Mass.--Yesterday's rebel without a cause wore a leather jacket
>}and white T-shirt, James Dean-style.  Today's sucks a pacifier.

>Interestingly enough, the article goes on to completely ignore what is
>probably a big factor in the popularity...a certain character in a
>quite popular cartoon series on Fox, who's almost never without one of the
>little suckers.

Guess the kids got tired of saying, "Eat my shorts," huh?

>Jeeze, and the article originates from Springfield, too.  Coincidence?
>I think not!

Hey, the theory's as good as any *I* came up with...

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From: kasprj@operators.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: The Fame Game
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:56:39 GMT

 I don't know anyone famous. 
 
 Does anyone else not know any famous people?
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From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: AFU person of the year (c'est moi).
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<lkrgssINNitq@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> <28283@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
Date: 9 Jan 93 16:48:20

Terry Chan pens:
>I wanted there to be a period of morning before I broke my
>silence over Cindy's recent demise. [....]

You wanted to mention it in the early afternoon, you mean?

Still not dead,
-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Phone Calls at 2/3 the Speed of Light
Keywords: phone, telephone, speed
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:17:59 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

tomj@monster.apd.saic.com (Tom Johnson) writes:


>>While watching the traditional wintertime pigskin fest today, I noticed
>>an AT&T commercial that showed three red sports cars and listed their
>>speeds in miles-per-hour.  Next came a red phone (cute, eh?) and listed
>>its speed: 440,000,000 mph (if I remember correctly).

>>Doing the ol' 186,282 * 3600, though, I get more like 670,615,200.  So
>>what gives?  Is AT&T using slow lines?  Is my math bad?  More importantly,
>>will Sprint or MCI run ads touting a 50% speed increase over AT&T?

It's called propogation delay - all cables exhibit it to some extent or another
0.66C isn't too bad for phone cables, I've seen much worse.

It's mainly due to the interna; capacitance and the inductance of the cables.

RG59BU cable has a similar propogation delay of around 0.66C
Thin Ethernet has a delay figure of around 0.77C while thick Ethernet is about
0.83C

Dave

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From: chenowet@rd1632.Dayton.NCR.COM (Steve Chenoweth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Keywords: Trig.
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:59:55 GMT
Reply-To: chenowet@rd1632.Dayton.NCR.com (Steve Chenoweth)
Organization: NCR Technology & Development, Dayton, Ohio

In article <1992Dec27.203155.9526@news.columbia.edu>, lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>
>Since you mention {Native American} maidens, isn't there a Pythagorean
>algorithm that has something to do with the sum of the Sqauws of something?

Unfortunately, the punch line was,

"The squaw on the hippopotamus hide is equal to the sum of the squaws on the
other two hides."

You can more or less make up the rest of the joke yourself.

ObUL:  Hippopotami once served as a major source of protein for certain
Native American tribes.


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From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Amusing Street Name Consequnces
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:36:42 GMT

Jeff Davis writes:
>Jonathan Papai writes:
>>Jeff Davis writes:
>>>In actually very nice Columbus, Ohio -- current home of the longest
>>>running crush in the Mid West -- two crossing downtown streets bear
>>>the names Broad St. and High St. The building at their junction is
>>>aptly named the Broad High Building.
>>-
>>	We actually call it the Capitol (sp).  Or do you mean
>>that other building?  What crush?
>>
>a) What other building?

A building sits on each corner of "The crossroads of Ohio" (I'm not
making that appelation up.).

1) Broad High Building, 2) State Office Tower, 3)Capitol (sp),
4) a 5th3rd bank branch.

ObUL: 3 of the above 4 are true.

Jon "Better than Cols. Indiana. We have Compu$erve. OK, maybe not better"Papai
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From: cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter)
Subject: Re: Babe Ruth Candy Bar
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:25:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.212029.14746@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Well, the columnists have surprisingly avoided mentions of the
>elevator-incident in the wake of Reggie Jackson's election to the
>Hall of Fame.
>
>But that didn't stop local Chicago Tribune mediot Jerome Holtzman
>from claiming that Reggie Jackson was just like Babe Ruth in that
>they both had a candy bar named after them.
>
>Now, indeed, there was the infamous Reggie bar.
>
>But what candy bar is Holtzman thinking of wrt Ruth?  Is he thoughtlessly
>assuming that the Baby Ruth bar is named for the baseball player, rather
>than the daughter of the president?  Or is this one of those strange
>urban legends about urban legends, and the Baby Ruth bar really *is*
>named for Babe Ruth?
>
>My vote is that Jerome Holtzman's just plain stupid.

Well, Jerome Holtzman won this *one*.  The Babe Ruth candy bar *is*
named after Babe Ruth.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Dan
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Jesus' name [First, we already know his middle name]
Date: 10 Jan 93 04:25:11 GMT
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

moe@rainier.lib.washington.edu (Joe Shippert) writes:
  +
  +Isn't "Jesus" or "Iesus" a Latinized version of "Joshua"? Was Jesus's name
  +really Joshua?

Hmmm....well, in my big dic, it says:

  Jesus [L.L.(Ec.) Iesus < Gr.(Ec.) Iesous < Heb. Yeshu'a, a
  contr. of yehoshu'a (Joshua).


Terry "More properly anglicized as 'Jack'" Chan
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From: de@moscom.com (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Sex, the Final Frontier?
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:54:39 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY

In article <1993Jan3.224458.24667@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>Why's this O'brien guy named Miles.  ST:TNG is consistent about
>using only SI units, while ST:TOS was all the time using regular
>units like feet and miles.  Shouldn't he be called "Meters
>O'Brien".

Actually Miles would become Kilometers (or Kilometres), if you want to stay
in the same order of magnitude.

Art Buchwald has a column that is published each Thanksgiving in which he
attempts to explain Thanksgiving to the French.  He talks about a fellow
who was too fearful of the beautiful maid to talk to her himself and has
a friend talk to her.  He is, of course, referred to as Kilometres Standish.

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Subject: Re: Upside-down burglar
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 00:24:24 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1993Jan11.213727.8220@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>>
>Of course, the French Horn is keyed with the left hand, as opposed to
>their driving tendencies.  Having never played one, I don't know if
>the right hand is used to key the English Horn.

Aha - a trick question!  In the same way that the French letter is neither 
a letter nor French, the English horn (Cor Anglais) is neither a Horn nor 
English.  It is in fact a woodwind instrument and played with both hands.

The French horn (which I believe isn't French either) uses the other hand
stuffed in the bell of the instrument and changes positioned to achieve the 
required intonation. 

ObJoke: Q. In what key does the musician play a lament for his Morris 1000 
which has just been squashed by a bus.
A. A-Flat Minor

Bwahahahahahaha.

Derek "Is a Dutch oven Dutch?" Tearne


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From: phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: enterprise vs. love boat
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:00:28 GMT
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor

In article <1993Jan8.204144.1378@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>
>ObSimilarity:  The new troll character in _Hagar the Horrible_
>looks amazingly like the Don Martin characters in _Mad_.
>
Well, that's possibly because Dik Browne, Hagar's creator, is quite dead.

This posting reminded me of an unkind PvdL signature about comic strips,
which in turn reminded me of Gustafson's 14th theorem:  comic strips have
a half-life of five years or less.  Come on, when is the last time you
laughed at "Peanuts"?  Or "B.C."?  Or even Gary Larson, after his hiatus?

Phil "Enjoy Calvin and Hobbes before it's too late, monkey boy" Gustafson


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From: neil@robots.ox.ac.uk (Neil Townsend)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Shamen
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:31:22 GMT
Organization: None evident here.
Originator: neil@ulysses.robots

I wrote

[Some stuff about Mr. C. Shamen, current lead singer of the Shamen,
deleted]

Ted Frank asked

>Didn't the lead-singer of Shamen drown or something?

Mr. C. Shamen is the new/current lead singer of the Shamen. True
`experimental dance music' lovers here will tell you that the Shamen
have gone downhill/populist since he joined to replace their previous
lead singer who did indeed die. The two possible causes I've heard are
`bizarre gardening accident' and `drowned', which are not mutually
exclusive.

>ObUL: People have been getting a lot of free dinners from riding elevators
>      at Cooperstown.

ObUL: The Paternoster elevators were replaced at the engineering
department in Oxford because someone was crushed to death going `over
the top.'

Neil `It was the gnomes' Townsned
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From: rodney@cabot.balltown.cma.com (Rodney Peck)
Subject: Re: Amusing street names
Organization: Balltown Offsite
	<1993Jan5.191741.26982@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4841@moscom.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:45:46 GMT


In article <4841@moscom.com> de@moscom.com (David Esan) writes:
   (Philip N Whitman) writes:
   >Can anyone identify a major city for me that does not have a street named
   >after Martin Luther King, Jr.?

   Sticking just to US cities, Rochester, NY does not have a street named after
   MLK.  As a matter of fact, I am not sure we have anything named after him.

oh please.  Rochester is a major city now?  Over here in the sprawling
metropolis of Albany, there's no MLK Blvd.  Not one in Troy either.  I 
don't think any of these three cities would be a 'major city' though.

Is there one in Boston?  I can't remember one.  I know there's one in Austin
and that rhymes with Boston, so maybe that counts.
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From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Sex, the Final Fronti
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:02:26 GMT

Many attributions ago:
>> >Ted "it's not libel if it's satire" Frank
>>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Speaking of libel and other stuff, here's an exerpt from
_Columbus Dispatch_, Jan. 4 1993
--------------------------------------------------
Hell's Angels sues Marvel Comics to protect Image
(Knight-Ridder Tribune News Wire)
[.....]
	Hell's angels recently sued Marvel Comics, accusing it of
'getting a free ride' on the bikers' 'powerfully evocative' image
with a comic book titled _Hell's Angel_ about a bionic
super-heroine.
	The organization accuses Marvel of unfair competition and
damaging the clubs 'good will' by deceiving the public into
thinking the bikers endorse the comic book, according to a
lawsuit filed in US district court in San Fransisco.
[...]
	The comic publisher countered in court papers: "Marvel's
fantasy heroine with super powers doing battle with Satan to save
souls could not logically be confused with a violent motorcycle
gang that has been recognized as one of the largest illegal drug
manufacturers in the world."
	After the club complained, Marvel changed the comic's
title to _Dark Angel_, but continued to call the main character
"Hell's Angel," according to club attorney Fritz-Howard Clapp.
	The club wants a judge to order all copies destroyed,
noting that the lawsuit has made the $1.75 comic book a
collector's item at more than $10.
[...]
___________________

	If the book's about a 'super heroin' maybe it is
appropriate that it be connected with 'one of the largest illegal
drug manufacturers in the world'.

ObUL: Peter Fonda's biker movies are better than anything Jane
Fonda ever made, including that Star Trek episode where she was
Gary 7's secraterry.  Or was that Terry Garr?

Jon "It might be libel if it's a comic book" Papai
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Tuesday, 5 Jan 1993 07:14:13 EST
From: <MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject:    Machine Gun TV CAMERAS

     I did not get this from my boss or from that woman who lives down the
hall, or from the Linotronic repairman, or from my girlfriend, I got this
from MEEEEEEEE! This is true and actually witnessed by my own eyeballs!

     O.K., my buddy and I were climbing around the backcountry outside of
Colorado Springs, Colorado in search of adventure. We were in the mountains
for a few days, camping out on private land etc, and we came upon something
very interesting. First we saw a huge expanse of beach sand stretching to an
incredibly tall chain link fence. We got closer to the fence and we started
walking around on this beach sand, sinking fairly deep into it, trying to see
what was on the inside. The wind died down for a minute and I distinctly heard
a whirring sound coming from above me. I looked up to see a closed circuit
television camera slowly panning around its motorized base, following my
friend and I as we moved around. I looked further down the line of fencing
and saw another camera slowly panning around. There was another one in the
other direction too. At first we started moving around erratically, watching
all of these cameras trace our movements, but then my friend froze and told
me to look at the top of the camera. Disguised behind a metal shutter, the
muzzle of a gun could easily be seen, moving along with the camera. We ran
back to the trees, spooked for about 30 seconds until the Jack Daniels
Green Label prompted my friend to whip out his wrist-rocket and start shooting
pennies at the contraption. Assuming it could probably see us better than
we could see it through our whiskey-vision I advised we back off a bit.
     Five minutes later a grey helicopter rumbled over the hill and started
flying over the area. Were we wearing blaze orange instead of K-Mart green,
it probably would have spotted us. Two days later, at some yokel bar and grill
in Pueblo, Colorado we told our tale to bartender. What was it? Nothing less
than the outer perimeter of North American Air Defense Command at Cheyenne
Mountain. We were already well within restricted area by the time we hit the
sand, but didn't realize it.
     My questions: What was the beach sand for? (I was thinking to look
for the footprints, but that sounds kinda dumb.) If my buddy's aim wasn't
so bad, could a penny lodged inside the electronics of a machine-gun camera
have caused a malfunction that could shoot two drunken kids fulla holes like
a bad spaghetti western? What's the deal with Green Label Jack Daniels? I
say its aged less than the regular stuff and my friend says it's aged more.
All I know is that you can only get the heavenly nectar in the South. Why?

               Rick Yukon, the Gol-Dangdest, Ding-Dongdest, Rootin-Tootenist,
                           Hombre this side of the Rio Grande.
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: But Leave William Holden Alone (Re: AFU person of the year
Keywords: ObUL: Trelford won because he took a hiatus from AFU.
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:30:43 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

the Great Trelford Pinkerton - AFU Man of the Year writes:
>
>ObUL2: Lucy Arnez dyed her hair red.  She was a natural brunette.
>
Lucille Ball dyed her hair. She had a special henna that was available
only from Egypt. Apparently she had a secret source because for 
awhile, like Cuban cigars, the henna was unavailable on the open market,
and yet she had a supply that could have turned Lake Ontario the
color of borsht. 

See you at the Mortons.
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From: dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard)
Subject: Re: Why care what percentage?  (was: Gay Likelihood)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
 <C0GM5E.82D@panix.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 16:28:05 GMT

In article <C0GM5E.82D@panix.com> ilaine@panix.com (Liz Stokes) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.174701.8468@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dsegard@nyx.cs.du.
du (Daniel Segard) writes:
>>
>> > Anyone who still thinks AIDS only happens to 'bad' people and
>> > 'good' people are safe hasn't been paying attention to public
>> > service broadcasts.
>> 
>>       I guess I haven't been paying attention to the public service
>>broadcasts....   Please explain how those of us who don't fool around w
th
>>anyone and don't do drugs, etc are going to contract AIDS?  Or has ther

>>been a news release that I missed announcing that AIDS is carried by
>>misquito bits or something?
>
>	Hemophiliacs for instance, and people undergoing surgery who need
>transfusions. Care to explain how someone needing a coronary bypass is a
>'bad' person?
 
      So you are saying that there have been public service broadcasts
warning against coronary bypass operations and blood transfusions?  I
guess I have missed those as well.....

 

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From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: General Hooker and whores (FAQ)
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 12:59:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.234537.8199@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
|> >FAQ writes:
|> >>Tb.US Civil War Gen. Hooker is the source for a common term for streetwalkers.
|> 
|> Probably F, unless you have a citation.  The Oxford English Dictionary
|> has a quotation from 1845 using the term.  Not-yet-general Hooker would
|> have been about 30 years old at the time.  Was he *such* a rake that his
|> name would have been a byword for "whore" in Norfolk (where the quotation
|> is from) even though he was born in Massachusetts and lived in California?
|> *Could* have happened, but...

You may also consider the use of "hook" as a woman grabbing a man (or v.v.)
to support the "F".

Speaking of words with a negative meaning, does anyone know the story
about the Hooligans, ie. I mean the _original_ Hooligans. Are they a
myth or did they really exist.

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From: cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok)
Subject: Re: Babe Ruth Candy Bar
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:19:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.212029.14746@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Now, indeed, there was the infamous Reggie bar.

infamous? why? did it taste bad? :^)

>But what candy bar is Holtzman thinking of wrt Ruth?  Is he thoughtlessly
>assuming that the Baby Ruth bar is named for the baseball player, rather
>than the daughter of the president?  Or is this one of those strange
>urban legends about urban legends, and the Baby Ruth bar really *is*
>named for Babe Ruth?
>
>My vote is that Jerome Holtzman's just plain stupid.

i believe you have chosen wisely.
i am pretty sure that the bar is indeed not named for George Herman.
i heard this somewhere in the media not long ago, but i forget the source.

--
charles
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