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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: "sipa of delco" under "palik" cape: The Greek barbarism.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:06:55 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1djg5mINNmv2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> by403@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:

>A paper that accurately describes Hasan B-) Mutlu of AT&T, Chicago, IL
>and his actions was discovered via extensive online library searches. 

I really miss him, "sipa of delco". Hearing him at hard times?

  <<...the disintegration of the Ottoman Empire which had been going on
  for a century was disastrous for Ottoman Jewry. This was the age of
  nationalism among the Christian subjects of the Sultan, starting with
  the Greek Revolution early in the nineteenth century, which, based on
  the Megali Idea, or Great Idea, sought to add to Greek kingdom Istanbul
  and large portions of Anatolia, union of which with Greece was felt to be
  the 'dream and hope of all'. The success of the Greek national movement,
  provided more in fact by the intervention of the Great Powers than by the
  efforts of the Greeks themselves, stimulated similar uprisings among the
  other subjects in Southeastern Europe who had long been oppressed, not so
  much by the Ottomans but, rather, by the Greek religious hierarchy which
  dominated the Orthodox millet, leading first to pressure for religious
  independence, granted to the Bulgarian Orthodox Exarchate in 1870, to the
  Serbian Church in 1879, and to the Rumanian Church in 1885, with subsequent
  aspirations for, and achievement of, political independence following...>>

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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From: erkam@acadia.Kodak.COM (Yusuf Murat Erkam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: UEFA Kupasi
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:13:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: kodak.1992Nov6.171353.27703
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

UEFA Kupasi 3.tur kuralari cekildi:

25 Kasim:	AS Roma (Italya) - Galatasaray		Roma

9 Aralik:	Galatasaray - AS Roma			Istanbul

--Murat
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From: e_alper@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Avrupa Kupasi Mac Sonuclari
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:12:06 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

Galatasary futbol takimi Istanbul Ali Sami Yen Stadyumunda oynanan macta 
sahane bir futbol oyunu sergiliyerek  Eintracht Frankfurt futbol 
takimini 1-0 malup etti.  Diger maclarda Fenerbahce maalesef 
Cekoslovakya'nin Olomouc Sigma (sp?) takimina 7-1 yenilerek, Trabzon 
ise Ispanya'da berabere kalarak elendiler.

Avrupa'da Turk futbolunu en iyi sekilde temsil eden Galatasaray'a 
bundan sonraki turlarda da basarilarinin devamini ve bu hafta oynanacak 
olan Trabzon-Besiktas macinda da Besiktas'a basarilar dilerim.
 
Emre
From: cro@ucbvax.col.edu (Kro Memo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: ASALA ogli Hanzo Nazolasiyor
Keywords: tavsan, kedi, silah, kari, terror
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:22:06 GMT
Organization: Uneversity of Colorado

---------------------------- DAVAR COBANI OKUZ MEMO ANLATIIR ----------------------


Nazo hastaligini Turkiyeye tasiyan VIRUS crolar kendi irklarini cogaltmak icin
en az DOKKIZ (9) kariyla (Teyzo ,halo, amco kizi demeden) evlenirler.
Ve boyle karma bir dollenmeden akraba evliliginin kacinilmaz sonucu olan
HANZO Nazolar turer/biter ler mi? 

Bu hanzolar BEKKAA'nin eroin tarlalrinda otlayip yunanli fashshshissst generallerinden
boooooool ders aldiktan sonra ASALA ile isbirligine baslarlar.

Peki sorarik CRRO'lara ermeniilerin Turkiyede iddia edip (Akbayram) istedikleri
topraklari CROLAND (a la DEUTSCHLNAND) haritalarinda gosterrdirirler.
           ^^^^^^^    

Bilin Bakalim entel gecinen kro daglarinin cobbanlari!! Cunku (bikouz) ermenilerin
o topraklari almayi kendi gotu ne yedi nede yiyecek. O yuzden pek sayin krolari
hayyvanat bahcasinden toplayip kullaniler.

BATIDA ETNIK GRUPLAR (ORN. SAKSONLAR, BASKLAR, KELTLER, LAPONLAR VB) HIC KONUSULMAZ
HIC "HAYALI" HARITALARI CIKARILMAZ, KENDI DILLERINI HIC BIR RESMI BELGEDE KULLANAMAZ DA
NEDEN TURKIYE UZERINE BIR VEYA BIR KAC SURU ORROSBU EVLADI OYUNLARRR OYNAYIP CIRKIN VE
YANLIS HARITALAR CIZILIR??

DIYECEKSINIZKI ONLARA BASKI YAPILMIYOR, YARRAK YAPILMIYOR! SADECE DUYURTULMUYOR
(HRISTIYAN DUNYA ONLARI USTACA ORTBAS VE KAMUFLENIN ALLAHINI EDIP PEYGAMBERINININ 
USTUNE CIKIYOR).


Ya insan haklari ve demokrasi prensiplerine dayali baris icinde ticaret yapan ileri
bir toplum olup --TC'ye baglilik ve vatan butunlugunu temel almak icin NAMUSU uzerine
yemin etmis HEP lileri parlemantomuzda barindirmak-- ZORUNDA kalacagiz, ayrilik
gostermeyecegiz, her seyden faydalanmalrina engel olmayacagiz, musamaha bol iyi niyet.
Buna karsilik onlarda: 
			Bol yardim ve malzeme tedarikiyla *(kaynagi belli)* fabrikalara
			trenlere, otobuslere, sivil halka vb sabotaj yapsinlar, alcakca
			kendi memleketlerinin koruyucularini sehit etsinler. Ondan
			sonra yakayi ele cok fenaaaaaa verince holikopterden bok
			gibi firlatilmasinlar.
					    C O K  I Y I M S E R S I N I Z   B A B O!

Heppinize selam eder ananiizin mina betton dokker sonrada sikimizle
kirariz mi ne?


Danimarkadan selamlarla
Davar cobani Cro Memo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,rec.sport.soccer
From: dstein@vesta.math.ucla.edu (David Stein)
Subject: Re: Turkish Teams in European Cups
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:34:59 GMT

armagan@prc.unisys.com writes:

>Galatasaray - Eintracht Frankfurt (Germany): 1-0  (Galatasaray advances)
> 5' Ugur
>
>This is a big upset for the only undefeated team of Deutsche Bundesliga.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Olomuc Sigma (Czechoslovakia) - Fenerbahce: 7-1   (Olomuc advances)
>
>This is a dark day for the Turkish football. Neither the Turkish teams
>nor the Turkish national team has faced such humiliation for years.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Atletico Madrid (Spain) - Trabzonspor: 0-0  (Atletico Madrid advances)
>

  Given the good results of the other two Turkish teams, I assume 
  something unusual happened in the game with Olomouc.  Perhaps
  Fenerbahce just gave up after a terrible start, or maybe they
  had players sent off the field for fauls.  In any case, Olomouc
  is a strong team (they kicked out Hamburg last year), and I 
  expected them to pull through.

  BTW, doesn't the coach of Fenerbahce come from Czechoslovakia?
  Venglos should be his name.  I actually heard that he said in
  an interview that if Fenerbahce will lose in Olomouc, he might as
  well stay in Czechoslovakia since otherwise the Istanbul crowd
  will tear him apart.  I'm not sure if he was joking or if he
  will really stay home after such a debacle.

 - David

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm not a native speaker of English, so I'm not sure what I wrote.
Flames will be ignored unless you post them in perfect Czech.
================================ - David (the metamathician) - ===
From: psyctwo1@cc.newcastle.edu.au (SORRY SCOTT... WAS AN ACCIDENT ;))
Subject: Questions on Turkish Females.
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:07:18 GMT

Hiya...
 
I recently met a Turkish girl, whom I got to be quite interested in.  After
talking to her many times, and discussing marriage, I then found out that
she had also been seeing another guy.

Not to blab my problems all over the net, but I was of the impression that
A Muslim Girl of Turkish Culture was not really allowed to see more than
one guy...indeed, she is terrified of telling her mother that she has been
seeing two guys, and talking about marriage with both of them.  We both got
the "seni cok sevoyorum"s, and I was not impressed when I found out.

However, my question is such...What is the proper protocol for a Turkish Girl
when courting?  Is she permitted to see two guys simultaneously?  Does her
religion have any bearing on what she does?

I know that that is perhaps a bit personal, but I am at a loss as to where to
find out other information regarding this subject.

Any help will be appreciated, as will any further information that can be
offered.

Since this is a general access account, can you please reply to:
c9110499@brolga.newcastle.edu.au

Many thanks!!

Fal....
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: There is only one "Gav*0" with a broken nose.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 01:57:32 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <101542@bu.edu> gavras@acs.bu.edu (alexis gavras) writes:

>I agree. He used Gav*0 on you first, so it's yours. I'd challenge our Resident 
>Virus to stretch his imagination and come up with something different for me,

You want jumper cables? I can hook you up to "Gavian". In the city of 
Komotini, a former Greek Parliamentarian of Turkish parentage, was 
sentenced recently to 18 months of imprisonment with no right to appeal, 
just for saying outloud that he was of Turkish descent. This duly-elected 
ethnic Turkish official was also deprived of his political rights for a 
period of three years. Each one of these barbaric and terrorist acts
seems to be none other than a vehicle, used by the Greek governments,
to cover-up their inferiority complex they display, vis-a-vis, the 
people of Turkiye. 

In addition, nobody has the right to ask the people of Turkiye to go 
through another decade of nightmare just so that the Greek governments 
could give another chance to the Greek Army to slaughter more innocent 
Turks. Greeks had their chance between 1960 and 1974. But they proved 
beyond any doubt that Turkish lives and rights mean nothing next to the 
intoxication of their Pan-Hellenistic utopias. 

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Re: The Greek government destroyed an Islamic convent in Komotini.
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 15:02:09 GMT

In article <9211052047@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
>In article <Bx8rDu.IIs@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> iptsiant@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Panagiotis Tsiantopoulos) writes:
>
>|> At his press conference at the National Press Club in Washington DC,
>|> Sadik Ahmet explained the plight of ethnic Turks in Greece and stated
>|> six demands from Greek government.
>
>>Why doesn 't he do  that in the parliament???
>
>Because there is not one for the minorities of Greece.

Aren't there two Turks in the Greek Parliament who are very much
Turkish nationalists?
>

-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Plymouth State Women's Soccer - #2 in the nation (Div. 3)  (15-0-2)
 Three wins from the national championship.  v. U MA Dartmouth  Sun.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.soviet
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 10:55:54 MST
From: gunsaymm@arizona.et.byu.edu (Mehmet M. Gunsay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: test, ignore


just a test!
From: TEX5HAD@CMS1.LEEDS.AC.UK (Haluk DEMIRBAG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Transport plane crash kills 23 (fwd)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 13:44:42 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

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>From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Subject: Transport plane crash kills 23
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 4:39:25 PST

        MOSCOW (UPI) -- A Russian military transport plane bound for Armenia
crashed just after takeoff from the central Russia city of Tver, killing
23 people, the Itar-Tass news agency reported Thursday.
        Russian air force officials said no one survived the crash of the
fuel-laden plane late Wednesday, which caused an all-night fire at
Nekrasovo near Tver.
        The AN-22 was on a flight to Yerevan, the Armenian capital, carrying
16 passengers, seven crew members and a cargo of fabric, paper and
leather, Itar-Tass said.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: THEORY mi, SCRIPTURE MI ?
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:12:59 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

What do the scientists expect from theories ?
 
According to Niels Bohr;
Scientist carries out an experiment on a system which has been
defined by the theory with full specification of the experiental
set-up. Scientist can then make a meaningful prediction about what
he may observe, and hence communicate to his fellows in a well-
understood language. (The Ghost in the Atom, ed P.C.W.Davies &
J.R.Brown 1988 p11)
 
Now, starting from the words that we have full range of examples in
their use in the Quran, we can set-up new "avenues" towards the
development of this "well-understood language" in science. Starting
from these words we can develop communication tools in language to
be used by scientists. 
 
1. (Perhaps that may also help some others (pseudo-scientists) stop
looking for Ghosts in the Atom ?!)
 
and
 
2. (Perhaps that may also help even others stop distorting the words 
of the God to conform them to some competing theories of our time ?!)
 
If NOT us, WHO ?
If NOT now, WHEN ?
If NOT here, WHERE ?
If NOT, WHY ?
 
My employer has no reponsibility and opinion about what I post to
you. I am self-employed.
 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Muslim women and children are being openly murdered.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:33:33 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1992Nov11.133946.1496@ifi.uio.no> michaelp@ifi.uio.no (Michael Schalom Preminger) writes:

>I have also experienced the some answer from the same entity which was remotely
>related to my posting, with a very long citation following. 

That is the result of watching "kaplumbaga" too much. Consult the following
sources for a change.

Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
        "Document No: 50," Archive No: 4/3621, Cabin No: 162, Drawer 
        No: 5, File No: 2905, Section No: 433, Contents No: 6, 6-1, 6-2.
        (To 36th Division Command - Militia Commander Ismail Hakki)

"For eight days, Armenians have been forcibly obstructing people from
 leaving their homes or going from one village to the other. Day and night
 they are rounding up male inhabitants, taking them to unknown destinations,
 after which nothing further is heard of them. (Informed from statements
 of those who succeeded in escaping wounded from the massacres around
 Taskilise ruins). Women and children are being openly murdered or are
 being gathered in the Church Square and similar places. Most inhuman and
 barbarous acts have been committed against Moslems for eight days."

        "Document No: 64," Archive No: 1/2, Cabin No: 109, Drawer 
        No: 4, File No: 359, Section No: 103(1435), Contents No: 3-20.
        (To Acting Supreme Command - Socialist Salah Cimcoz, Socialist 
        Nesim Mazelyah)

"Armenian gangs have been murdering and inflicting cruelties on
 innocent people of the region. This verified information, supported
 by clear statements of reliable eyewitnesses, was also confirmed by
 General Odishelidje, Commander of the Russian Caucasian Army.

 Armenians are entering every place evacuated by Russians carrying out
 murders, cruelties, rape and all kind of atrocities which cannot be
 expressed in writing, murdering all the women, children, aged people
 who happen to be in the street. These barbarous murders repeated 
 every day with new methods continue and the Russian Army has been urged
 to intervene to terminate these atrocities. Public opinion is appalled
 and horrified. Newspapers are describing the happenings as shocking.
 We have decided to inform all our friends urgently about the situation."

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
From: iptsiant@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Panagiotis Tsiantopoulos)
Subject: Re: The Turkish people still adhere to their part of the bargain.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:25:46 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <1992Nov4.223313.27347@athena.mit.edu>, ertas@athena.mit.edu (Mehmet D Ertas) writes:
|> In article <Bx6t26.2J7@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>, iptsiant@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Panagiotis Tsiantopoulos) writes:
|> |> In article <9210311824@zuma.UUCP>, sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
|> |> 
|> 
|> Religion is only one aspect of the rich Turkish culture and tradition,
|> you must be careful when making conclusions. I do not see any logical
|> connection between Serdar's statement and yours. He definitely 
|> doesn't try to say anything related to Islam (at least to my judgment) in the 
|> quote above. In that sense,
|> your posting resembles to follow the algorithm that Serdar Argic usually
|> uses:
|>   1- Pick a sentence from a posting
|>   2- Post a followup with irrelevant charges/claims etc. 
|> 
|> Good day,
|> 
|> Deniz Ertas
|> 

Sure, you are right, and I am sorry for doing so, but I think Serdar Argic is not able to understand me if I post articles in my style.
It was the first time I did so, and I hope it was the last time, unless old Serdar continues to post such a rubbish.
(Serdar, I hope you read this)

Panos Tsiantopoulos.
From: 988fernandez@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: FENERBAHCE-GALATASARAY
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:40:41 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University




        	FENERBAHCE : 1           GALATASARAY : 0

 Fenerbahce'nin golu Aykut'tan.Iki takim da denk futbol oynamis.Aykut'un golu
baya guzelmis.
 Cekoslavakya faciasi sonrasi Cuma gunu istifa eden ve ancak Galatasaray'i
yenersek geri gelirim diyen Metin ASIK dileginin gerceklesmesi uzerine tekrar
baskan . Fenerbahceli taraftarlar mac boyu takimlarindan cok kuskun baskana
tezahurrat yapmislar.

 




 CIM BOM'A KOYDUK SIRA KARTALDA. EN BUYUK FENER.


BILGEHAN GOKMEN.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: Guven.Guzeldere%STANFORD.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (hq.ggg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Sports News
Date: 9 Nov 1992 00:33:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>

> From: Ates Temeltas
> Subject:  Spor Haberleri


Results of Turkish first division soccer matches
played over the weekend:

 Ankaragucu     0    Kayserispor     0
 Altay          2    Karsiyaka       1
 Aydinspor      3    Genclerbirligi  2
 Trabzonspor    0    Besiktas        0
 Bursaspor      0    Kocaelispor     2
 Sariyer        2    Gaziantepspor   0
 Konyaspor      1    Bakirkoyspor    3
 Galatasaray    0    Fenerbahce      1

    Standings (tabulate under games played, won, drawn, lost, goals for, goals
against, points):
 Kocaelispor         10     8   1    1     31    7     25
 Fenerbahce          10     7   1    2     24   11     22
 Besiktas            10     6   4    0     20    7     22
 Galatasaray         10     6   2    2     19    8     20
 Trabzonspor         10     4   5    1     15    7     17
 Bursaspor           10     5   2    3     17   12     17
 Bakirkoyspor        10     4   1    5     18   17     13
 Genclerbirligi      10     4   1    5     12   19     13
 Altay               10     4   0    6     11   18     12
 Karsiyaka           10     2   5    3     12   11     11
 Sariyer             10     3   2    5      8   17     11
 Kayserispor         10     1   6    3     12   15      9
 Ankaragucu          10     2   2    6      7   15      8
 Gaziantepspor       10     2   2    6      7   22      8
 Aydinspor           10     2   1    7      6   20      7
 Konyaspor           10     0   5    5      9   22      5

Galatasaray'in UEFA Ucuncu Tur Rakibi : Rome (Italya)



To:  TRKNWS-L@USCVM
From: asahin@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (adnan sahin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: test
Keywords: test
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:55:18 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University

test. test. test.
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