From: f1toyl@uta.fi (Topi Ylinen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: EOB2 win post
Keywords: eob2
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:16:22 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

Ha! Finally made it (yesterday, to be exact)! In fact, considering the
monster toughness, I really never thought I would be able to!
I am not sure if "win posts" are normal in these newsgroups (rather in 
rec.games.moria and the like) but after playing the game for 4 months,
getting stuck time after time (most often because my maps had some really
stupid errors), and being really peeved quite often I just couldn't resist
the temptation...

Thanks go to all those who have kindly helped me when I've got stuck because
of my stupidity. Without your priceless help I guess I would still be stuck
in Medusas' maze or in the Beholder level.

My win itself was not very spectacular. I did not find any reasonable way
to beat the mind flayers and I simply ran away to settle my debts with
mr Draggore himself (leaving mind flayers standing there looking stupid).
In his human form, Dran was a piece of cake as soon as I learned that 
step sideward-hit-step sideward routine (hasted, of course... and also, 
whenever he proceeded instead of sidestepping, I made a swift fwd-fwd-turn
around routine (in the biggest room of the level, just in case you are
interested)). But in his Dragon form, Dran gave me real heck of a challenge.
He seemed to (I do not think he really WAS, after all) be faster and certainly
took much more hits and no spell could affect him. I say he seemed to be
faster because I was not able to dodge all his fireballs and in the end,
only my fighter was alive - he dealt the deadly blow and won all characters
a place as "Heroes of the Realm" (which looked VERY Dungeonmasterish to me!).
I later tried the final combat again (I had saved the game just before entering
Dran's level), got killed twice, but on third try I beat him second time,
this time with all my characters alive.
In case you are interested, my winning team consisted of 

Siegfried - human male fighter (I had a paladin in my first team but he never
			        gained any spells anyway)
Alberich  - dwarf male fighter/thief
Gutrune	  - human female cleric
Klingsor  - human male mage
San-Raal (NPC)
Shorn (NPC)

I think that was a very good combination. Strong fighters in the front
and pure spellcasters with a wide selection of spells. (No mage was ever
high enough level to cast sixth level spells (which I had scribed when I
found scrolls - shouldn't have!)

Compared to FTL's DM or CSB, EOB2 certainly offers great graphics, 
chilling animations and beautiful colors - no to mention the atmospheric
music. What it still lacks, is logical puzzles (typical to FTL's games)
- situations where you really have to creatively invent a strategy using
all possible resources. EOB2's style is rather kill'em-all, the main 
challenge is fighting all those endless hordes of monsters (endless, that
is, because most of them are "wandering", i.e. reappear regularly).
Some combats are plain impossible if really try to play them as "fair"
combats. Just like in EOB1, the only possible way to win the final combat
was the "hit&run" technique, which was quite disappointing. 
But as an experience, EOB2 is still most definitely worth the price!

Anyway, I feel right now so generous that if any of you who are reading
this are stuck in this game (which wouldn't be so surprising), I think
I can offer you some help. Yes, let's give some time to the usual "helpline"
guys to rest, come on, bombard me with your questions! (for a week or two
or until I really get bored of 'em ;) )

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