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From: GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (STEPHEN BECKETT)
Subject: Atheist:  Unquestionable Presence
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:28:49 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.13.SMU

I recently picked up the new Atheist tape, "Unquestionable Presence", and all I
can is, "fucking awesome!"  It's one of the most technical deathrash albums
I've heard...I thought they'd never be able to outdo "Piece Of Time".  The late
Roger Patterson plays bass on a few tracks, (they were recorded before he
died), and Cynic's Tony Choy (who's also done work with Pestilence recently)
plays the other bass tracks....
 Anyone who doesn't have this album should get it.  Extremly cool.
  
Later!
<--SHADOWHAWK-->
"I am no human now, I burn the ways conform..."  -Morbid Angel
From: merenda@romulus.rutgers.edu (Kill Bon Jovi)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: DEICIDE/DEMOLITION HAMMER/CANCER concert
Summary: re:DEICIDE-MOSH!!!!!!
Keywords: Mosh
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:30:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <30SEP199218204802@jane.uh.edu>, st1p8@jane.uh.edu writes:
> 
> 	Is anyone going to the concert here in Houston on November
> 8th?  It's Pornlord's birthday that day, so I'd better see you all
> there---
> 
> 				ROT!!!


no, but i'll be at the show in new york on saturday!

     MOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-frank-
From: 9135477m@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: SEPULTURA LYRICS PLEASE !!!
Date: 25 Sep 92 01:15:03 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au
Originator: daemon@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au


Could someone please send me some SEPULTURA lyrics.

All albums except 'Beneath the Remains' if possible

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From: lavonius@plootu.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Just some questions
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:21:42 GMT
Organization: Cthulhoid Entities for a Better Tomorrow

In article <1992Sep30.152920.18918@kth.se> d90-two@musta.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:

   In article <1992Sep30.001134.13619@leland.Stanford.EDU> rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler) writes:
   [.....]
   >
   >Does anyone know anything about Comecon and Samael? They're both on Century
   >Media but I've never heard anything about them.

   Samael is a Swiss Death/Black Metal Band. I haven't listened much to them,
   but it's... quite heavy, so to speak (What would you expect? :-)

Not Swiss, Czechoslovakian. Quite heavy indeed, one album out (that I've
heard). Or wait... am I mixing this up with Master's Hammer that DEFINITELY
is Czechian, Bathoresque with kettle drums (those big things not usually seen
outside orchestras). I'll check, I've got Samael only on tape.

      |=|   Thomas Wolmer       | just sadness and sorrow           |=|
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From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Hardcore in LA area
Date: 30 Sep 1992 22:54:18 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu

In article <1ad6vkINNuk@aludra.usc.edu> sknezevi@aludra.usc.edu (Steven John Knezevich) writes:
>could someone please send me e-mail on the LA Hardcore scene?  What stores
>are cool and where can I find out about shows?  Please e-mail me soon
>.....I heard that Huntington Beach and OC (Orange County) have a cool scene
>but please inform me....thanks.
>Peace.....sTevE kneZevicH
>

The only thing that I can tell you is this  ORANGE COUNTY HAS NO LIFE!
It is quiet as hell! I really don't think there are any heavy metal or thrash
places that you can visit in Orange County, however it is surfer's heaven and
the beach is awesome.  Try Huntington Pier, Laguna Beach and Laguna Niegel co-
mmunities, and listen to KNAC, 105.5 (a very good heavy-metal station. On Mondayat 11PM it has "Maniac Metal," usually new death or thrash albums.) For clubs
that have hardcore flavor, you have to go to L.A. County. 

Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Just some questions
Originator: tphailey@c00015-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:35:29 GMT


	Some of this talk about Tiamat as of late got me to thinking and it 
doesn't happen too often so I had better get this all down. I was just wondering
if there was anyone in the know who could tell me waht is up with another 
Century Media band called Grave. They're really great Swedish death and it seems
they should have a new one out sometime soon. I'm just guessing, but it has been 
awhile since _Into_the_Grave_ was released. Come to think of it, does anyone
know about new stuff for the following bands:
						Incubus
						Mortician
						Dismember
						Mighty Force
					        and Suffocation

	Also, has anyone heard the new (well, not so new now) Monstrocity album?
And does anyone like to trade death/grind tapes? 
							TOMASS
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Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (STEPHEN BECKETT)
Subject: CARCASS: Gods Of Grindcore
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:45:38 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.13.SMU

I don't know what it is about Carcass, they just make me break into a cold
sweat whenever I hear 'em.  Their latest album (Necrotisicm: Descanting
The Insalubrious), and EP (Tools Of The Trade) are just fucking amazing.
So much better than their older stuff, such as Reek Of Putrifaction.
Nothing against their old stuff, but it suffered greatly from lack of 
production.....they had awesome album covers tho...  :-)

<--SHADOWHAWK-->       GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.Ca
  
   "The macabre perplexed..."

Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: New Cannibal Corpse!!
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:49:06 GMT

I've been waiting since July when I say Cannibal Corpse perform with
Obituary for their new album to come out.  It finally came out today, 
9/29, (or at least I didn't see it anywhere before today).  I love it!
The music is just as fast and furious as the last two tapes, and the 
voice is just as mean.  "Electronic Harmonizer was not used to create any
vocals on 'Tomb Of The Mutilated'".  Before I go any farther let me say 
that I am biased because Cannibal is my favorite band.  Anyway, the 
music on Tomb varies more than before.  They slow down more, relatively,
and Paul doesn't just play the Idiot Beat all through the songs.  The 
drumming is very creative in parts, for death metal.  The songs are as
follows:  Side 1- Hammer Smashed Face;  I Cum Blood;  Addicted To Vaginal
Skin;  Split Wide Open;  Necropedophile.  Side 2-  The Cryptic Stench;
Entrails Ripped From A Virgin's Cunt;  Post Mortal Ejaculation;  Beyond 
the Cemetary.  I think the names speak for themselves.
Two things I don't like which may be cleared up later...
1.  On the cover, right above the Parental Advisory label are two little
words which say "Censored Version".  What is censored?  I think maybe the
cover itself was censored because, compared to Butchered is extremely tame.
Hopefully it will be possible to aquire the real cover through the mail
if it indeed was censored.
2.  No printed lyrics.  This may not be a problem come October when "Tales
Of The Mutilated", a comic book illustrating the songs, is released.
Hopefully Tales will print the lyrics because as it stands now, I can 
understand about 5 words on the whole tape.  I'd like to know what
he is saying, especially on Entrails.
Anyway, buy this tape, or CD whichever you prefer.  It's awesome!

                                           ->Spice
From: sm@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Suicidal Maniac)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: stuff
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 21:27:09 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: We don't need no stinkin' organization!

Wanted:
 
Suicidal tendencies's Light Camera Revolution VHS Tape
 
Black Sabbath Live with Ozzy '78 Hammersmith
 

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From: d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Just some questions
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:57:10 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <1992Sep29.033529.2933@ncsu.edu> tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:
>
>	Some of this talk about Tiamat as of late got me to thinking and it 
>doesn't happen too often so I had better get this all down. I was just wondering
>if there was anyone in the know who could tell me waht is up with another 
>Century Media band called Grave. They're really great Swedish death and it seems
>they should have a new one out sometime soon. I'm just guessing, but it has been 
>awhile since _Into_the_Grave_ was released.

As it's said, it's out now. I haven't bought it yet (sold out in my fav stores)
but the songs I've heard from it seems to have more of the Sunlight Sound
than "Into The Grave".

 Come to think of it, does anyone
>know about new stuff for the following bands:
[...]
>	Dismember

They are in the studio right now, and you'll probable see the album in
January.
The same goes for the next Entombed album.

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From: philkime@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Philip Kime)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: New Cannibal Corpse!!
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:35:02 GMT
Reply-To: philkime@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Philip Kime)
Organization: Dept of AI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland


Apparently, the banned cover is on the inside of the CD/Album etc. and the
current
cover was done specially due to the ban. On the CD I've seen, the song titles
on
the back just give a few sample titles and then say `see inside for more
titles'.


					P.
From: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU (Periscope)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Pantera vs. Rollins
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:43:04 GMT
Reply-To: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

In article <HANS.92Sep28133427@ravn.iesd.auc.dk> hans@iesd.auc.dk writes:

>I had raed a lot of positive stuff about Pantera in this and other 
>newsgroups so when I visited the States last month, I bought "A Vulgar
>Display of Power".  But I must admit that I was disappointed.

Sorry to hear that.

>Is it just me, or aren't the guys in Pantera simply trying to be a
biker's version of the Rollins Band with stereotypical guitar noodling
>and less eloquent lyrics ? They even have a pissed-off lead vocalist
>with large tattoos. (OK, I am biased - I really like Henry Rollins.)

>This is not menat as a flame - all I am saying is that I fail to see
>their greatness.
>
>-Hans

"Stereotypical guitar noodling" -- I think not.  Right now, Diamond Darrell is
the best thrash/metal guitarist in music today.  The man can really play.  I
think a big part of PANTERA's greatness is when they play live.  This band
plays with so much raw energy, it's incredible to watch.  I think it might of
helped if you had picked up COWBOYS FROM HELL and listened to it. {It's a bit
better than VULGAR DISPLAY, but not by much.

Now as far as comparisons to Henry Rollins go, I can't make any since I have 
never heard any of his albums.  But, I think that PANTERA is one of the best
bands (if not THE) in metal/thrash today.

-Scope
From: gabe_sky@largo.lbl.gov (Gabriel Schuyler)
Newsgroups: alt.skate
Subject: Re: how to stop?
Date: 5 Oct 1992 20:37:18 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: gabe_sky@largo.lbl.gov (Gabriel Schuyler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.252.252

In article <lceksjINNs92@west.west.sun.com> sam@troon.West.Sun.COM writes:
>just started on rollerblades a couple of weeks ago, and they seem
>pretty much like skis when going downhill, without the ability to
>stop :-(.
>

Yeah, they're a lot more like skis.  I could NEVER rollerskate, and then
last weekend tried blades, and they were no problem.  So, I don't think it's
a matter of "graduating" to blades from skates, Ravi, but that's just
my opinion.  They're very different, especially 'cause with the blades' ankle
support, you're less likely to have your feet slip out in front of you,
landing you on your butt.

-Gabe
Xref: sparky alt.skate:353 misc.wanted:8748
From: Suzanne-lucia.Demitrio@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Suzanne-lucia Demitrio)
Newsgroups: alt.skate,misc.wanted
Subject: Big Foot! (skates wanted)
Summary: need men's size 15 EEE ice skates
Keywords: ice skate, new jersey, nj
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:28:37 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

NOTE: Despite my e-address, I am in *New Jersey*, not North Carolina.

I have a friend who's never been ice skating (he grew up in the
semi-tropics, poor dear), and he's agreed to try if I can find skates to
fit his feet.

So does anyone out there have men's size 15 EEE ice skates? (Do they
exist?) May I please borrow them for a weekend?

I'm in New Jersey, near New York City.  Please respond by e-mail.


Suzanne Lucia.



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Newsgroups: alt.skate
From: hikaren@engin.umich.edu (Karen Therese Hunt)
Subject: Re: Ice skating videos and books?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 18:22:11 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Sep23.205353.2091@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>I am looking for some good ice skating (educational) videos and 
>books.  I would like to get back to taking lessons after twenty
>years away from it, but in the meantime, I'd like to do some review.
>
>Any recommendations?  I have a Sports Illustrated book on figure
>skating, and I've seen a very basic video aimed at beginning skaters
>with Babilonia/Gardner.  I'd like to know about others.
>
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>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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>   Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH 
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I haven't seen any books or videos on ice skating. However,
I have a friend who took a class from an University. It 
sounded like a lot of fun. You might want to look into it.
.

From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 18:44:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Tips reqd. to begin skating
Organization: Shredding the water of SF Bay, HP-OCD
Newsgroups: alt.skate

>Hi,
>
>I am  interested in  learning to skate , my idea is to eventually get
>onto roller blades  but was wondering what would be the best way to
>start and how long does it normally take to learn the basics..
>
>- should i take classes  on rollerskates first before i try roller
>  blades  or should i just buy them on start learning on my own.
>
>- Also, how much would approximately cost for me to get started.
>
>Thanks.
>/Ravi. (rshankar@pyramid.com)
----------

For me I started with helmet, knee, elbow and wrist pads and a pair or
Aeorblades since they fit well and would last if I liked the sport (figured
I would).  I started out in the parking lot of my condo/townhouse by going
in circles from garage doors to cars.  As I got better, my circles got
larger, faster and more interesting scenery.  You will fall, so use
protection.  Some start with cheaper blades, but I couldn't see spending
$150 at one point and then needing to spend more later to replace that.

Kirk out
From: sam@troon.West.Sun.COM (Sam Stein)
Newsgroups: alt.skate
Subject: how to stop?
Date: 28 Sep 1992 18:48:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: sam@troon.West.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: troon.west.sun.com

just started on rollerblades a couple of weeks ago, and they seem
pretty much like skis when going downhill, without the ability to
stop :-(.

tried the brake without much success, and dragging a skate usually
starts some type of spinning. dragging a padded knee seems
about the best.  i'm hoping  for a better way.

thanks, sam

_______________________________________________________________
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Sun Microsystems, Inc.            Phone: (602) 273-0549 x46
410 N. 44th St., Suite 175        Fax:   (602) 273-0965
Phoenix, AZ  85008                Email: sam.stein@west.sun.com

Newsgroups: alt.pulp
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Shadow meets Green Hornet
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:32:14 GMT

<RSL103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>crime fighters, so here's a bit of news:  Somebody in Hollywood is doing a
>"Green Hornet" movie, and the guy who's campaigning most heavily for the role
>of Britt Reid is--I swear I'm not making this up--Eddie Murphy!  How about it,

Maybe he has it confused with Cosby's Brown Hornet...
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Newsgroups: alt.pulp
From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Subject: Millineum's Manual of Bronze
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:15:56 GMT

Millineum's Manual of Bronze is now out!!  Its pretty good.

There are several pages of bios of Doc, Pat, and his aides, as well as
some of the villians: John Sunlight, White Eyes, Mo-Gwei (villian from
Meteor Menace) and the 'Deadly Dwarf' (the villian from DD/Repel).

It also has a two-page layout of Doc's headquarters, a two-page blueprint
of Helldiver, and plans of his vest and superfirer gun.  

There is also the newspaper strip that Dent did as an attempt to get interest
in a Doc strip.

Also there are several Doc 'pin-ups'  there are two two-page pieces by 
Doug Wildley for the proposed Doc animated TV show, plus a couple by Tim Truman
and some others.

The Pat Savage special one-shot was also delayed.  I would expect it to be
out in a month or so.


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Xref: sparky alt.pulp:183 rec.arts.sf.written:13464
From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: alt.pulp,rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Robert Weinburg's Pulp Classics Series
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:09:23 GMT
Followup-To: alt.pulp
Distribution: na
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown) writes:

>I am looking for info in Robert Weinburg's Pulp Classics series.  This
>was a series of pulp reprints from 73-80.  

I pulled this info off of RLIN while looking for the sequel to THE DEVIL'S
AUCTION.  Hope it's of some use.

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FIN PN ROBERT WEINBERG - Cluster 77 of 88

Satan's roadhouse / [edited and published by Robert Weinberg]. -- 1st ed. --
   Chicago : Weinberg, c1977.
  96 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. -- (Weird menace ; no. 2)

  Series.
  $5.00
  LCCN: 77152374//r85
  L.C. CALL NO: PZ1.S23  PS648.H6
  ID: DCLC77152374-B              CC: 9110       DCF: i

FIN PN ROBERT WEINBERG - Cluster 80 of 88

Jones, G. Wayman.
  The Emperor of Death / [edited by Robert Weinberg]. -- San Bernardino, Calif.
 : Borgo Press, 1980, c1979.
  121 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. -- (Pulp classic ; no. 20)

  ISBN 0893700851 : $11.95. -- ISBN 0893700843 (pbk.) : $5.95
  LCCN: 808668//r85
  L.C. CALL NO: PS648.D4.J6 1980
  ID: DCLC808668-B                CC: 9110       DCF: i

FIN PN ROBERT WEINBERG - Cluster 82 of 88

The Corpse factory / [edited by Robert Weinberg]. -- 1st ed. -- Chicago :
   Weinberg, c1977.
  96 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. -- (Weird menace ; no. 1)

  Series.
  $5.00
  LCCN: 77150976//r85
  L.C. CALL NO: PZ1.C828  PS648.H6
  ID: DCLC77150976-B              CC: 9110       DCF: i

FIN PN ROBERT WEINBERG - Cluster 85 of 88

Devils in the dark / [edited and published by Robert Weinberg]. -- 1st ed. --
   Chicago : Weinberg, c1979.
  96 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. -- (Weird menace ; 4)

  Series.
  LCCN: 79112261
  L.C. CALL NO: PZ1.D485  PS648.H6
  ID: DCLC79112261-B              CC: 9110       DCF: i

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Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
Internet: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu       BITnet: JAROCHAERNST@ZODIAC
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:05:31 EDT
From: <TPW106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.pulp
Subject: doc.savage

Interested in buying any forms of the Doc Savage pulps.  Except comics!
From: killip@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. L.T. Killip)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Re: tarot readings for profit
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:18:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <BvGItA.9CD@acsu.buffalo.edu>, psr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Lord Strider of the Hill People) writes:
> I don't plan on making a living off of tarot cards so I can afford my policy.
> I never charge for a reading for a good reason... motive.
> I don't have the ulterior motive of making money off of making you happy with
> my reading.  This enhances the believability of the reading and allows the
> questioner to be more open and responsive.
> Like I said, though, I don't plan on making this my carreer.

I ALWAYS charge for readings, not for my sake but for the querent's. It
needn't be money, but the querent should be asked to contribute something
of value to him/herself so as to lock in openness and responsiveness. If it
makes you feel bad to charge try using any income only for your magical
education (the self-financing Tarot principle) or just give it to your
favorite good cause.
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