Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 26 Jul 1992 01:45:17 CDT
From: <U55870@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Why do I post here (was: prayer)
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Summary:  Jewfreak Drunkbrewski attempts to distract from the fact that
          his methods of reasoning have been questioned, with silly
          personal attacks.  In a clear case of displacement, he
          sees his own fault in others.  This proves the old adage that
          if you give a fool enough rope, he will hang himself.


In article <dabrowsk.711827691@liveboard10>, dabrowsk@parc.xerox.com (Jarek
Dabrowski) says:
>
>SUMMARY: "Jarek, where are you" thread declared as a permanent trash bin
>         for GIGO exchanges with people like DAVE!!!. Thanks, DAVE!!!

  I am returning the garbage that you throw at me with reasonable
questions, phrased is simple english so that you might understand.
Unfortuantely, you seem mentally incapable of returning anything but
garbage.  Also, this displays the hithero unknown fact that you have
the ability to decalre what will be discussed in each thread.  Are you
the founder of alt.atheism?  Are you the owner of the net?

[ much semantic null, banging of keys deleted. ]
>
>Then you have proven to be unable to read and understand the reason of
>my "please behave' when you did remove what you should not. Your reply

 Does 'please behave' mean that I cannot defend myself against your
personal attacks?  I find it curious that when I point out and prove
several flaws in your basic methods of arguement, that you respond
with juvenile name-calling and finger-pointing.  You have failed to
answer one of my 'points'.

>was again offensive, empty-worded, and non-communicative though you

  Yes, this describes 99% of your postings to a 't' thank you.

>IN SPITE OF your previous extremely hostile attacks on me, attacks which
>you are unable to support with any evidence (try it). Congratulations.

 I supported them with unretouched quoted from your articles,  and you
did attempt to show one of them wrong, and were easily shot down.  Next.

>
>I even don't have to mention what you presented in the "Jarek, where are
>you" thread (though I was clearly mocking at you there, I can support
>with SERIOUS evidence every word of my criticism I wrote to you). Now,

  SERIOUS evidence, even evidence of any kind, would indeed be a first
for you.  If you intend to prove this by quoting my articles, don't
bother.  As I have shown to all here, you are guilty of hodepodge and
out-of-context quoting, and outright falsehoods.  I could quote any
article of yours, and re-edit it to read 'Jarek Dabrowski is a fool'
and claim you said it.  This does not mean it is true, irrespective
that it may be so here.

>your articles are such a perfect advertisement against atheism.

  Hmm.. Curious, considering you are fighting logic with catechisms,
semantics, false claims, and name-calling.  Is this what theism is
all about?  Please keep it up.

  I wish your letter was little more than a semantic null.  Beating you
up mentally is getting to be no challenge, so I imagine I will go talk to
people who can reason soon.

  I just want to say that the reason I detest
your method of arguement so much is that you are out to show you are
'right' and will use any methods to acieive your ends.  In a discussion
between rational adults, there should be an exchange of information,
testing of theories, and the possible creation of new knowledge.  This
is the way the human race advances.  If we spent all of out time trying
to re-prove old theories, instead of developing new ,better ones, we
would still be in caves banging rocks together, where it seems some of
us still belong.  I could go on, but a rational person will understand
what I mean, and you will keep banging your rocks together.

  D*A*V*E