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From: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: SCOOPABLE KITTY LITTER ?
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:52:52 GMT
Reply-To: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <22679@oasys.dt.navy.mil> lbrown@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Latonya Brown) writes:
>I am new to this group.  I just got my first cat.  I have a question
>about this new Kitty litter line of scoopable litter.  I use Scoop Fresh
>at first no problem now I use the Scooples (YUK) xxxxxxx  Has any one
>found it not the litter it says, I can smell it when I open my apartment
>door.  I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
>But could I be doing somethng wrong?

I don't think you are doing anything wrong.  You probably just ran 
across one of the poorer brands of clumping litter.   I tried Clumpy
Cat once and will never use it again.  The clumps break apart when
you touch them with the scoop and it smells bad. 

I have tried almost everybrand of clumping litter they make and am
very satisfied with most of the brands.  I do like Scoop Fresh so 
I use it more than half the time.  I haven't tried Ever Clean LT yet,
but will pretty soon.  They say it tracks less than all the others, 
because it's little clay particles are bigger than others.  

My biggest problem is _remembering_ which litters I definitely don't
want to purchase again.  When the store has a sale, I always think
"now, was that one I liked, or didn't like".  ;-)


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sandyb@cbnews.cb.att.com (sandra.e.braun)
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:29:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.213741.8180@gtephx.UUCP>, machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic) writes:
> Grapes. Big fat juicy grapes. Also the grape stems. Huggy Bear thinks they
> are ideal toys. He carries the grape around, he rolls it around, he gnaws
> on the stem and drags it around.
> 
> Of course, you have to go looking for them so you don't step on them...
>

Yes!  Grapes are one of my cats favorite toys!  The only problem is she
likes to play with them until the turn to mush.  It isn't a great feeling
stepping on an old, mushed grape!  Now I learned and keep them in the fridge.
From: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Squirming cats....
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:41:27 GMT
Reply-To: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Jul30.093214.569@nuscc.nus.sg> isc40041@nusunix3.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE) writes:

>: >they are _much_ easier to put into the eyes of a squirming cat. ;-)
>: 
>: I roll them up in a towel.
>: Of course the down side of this is that they do not like to see a towel 
>: comming, but it makes them much easier to control, and lessens the chance
>: of either of us getting hurt.

My Tamora is not too fond of one particular blue bath sheet. ;-)
However, I usually just use it when taking her to the vet.  When
she sees me get it out, she hides under the bed.  :-) When doing
medicine, ears, etc. I just hold her on the kitchen counter or 
cross-legged (me, not her) in the floor.  You can get better 
leverage like that.  ;-)

>1.  I always clip their nails while they are asleep ...
>2.  Clean their ears straight after their bath ... they will
>be busy drying themselves ... they will just ignore u !

You have extremely mild mannered cats.  ;-)  Do you give them
a bath by yourself also?  If so, I want to know how you manage
that.  I have never been brave enough.  I take Tamora and have
her groomed at the pet clinic.   

.................
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From: dlin@weber.ucsd.edu (Diane Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Favorite places for catnapping...
Date: 23 Jul 1992 03:32:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu
Summary: as far away from our toddler as possible

Our female cat, Bacall, loves to sleep in the cabinet underneath a sink,
where we keep our towels.  She opens the cabinet door, squeezes
through, *closes the door* and sleeps atop all the clean, fresh towels.
Our toddler has never found her secret hiding place yet, and I'm not
about to let on!  Our male cat, Bogie, seems to prefer my side of
the bed, or sometimes my pillow for his naps.  Since he's much more
tolerant of our son, he doesn't mind being an easy target for
Dylan's affections :-).
-- 
Diane C. Lin			"Live now; make *now* always the
dlin@weber.ucsd.edu	         most precious time.  Now will 
(Dylan's mom, 19 months)	 never come again." (ST:TNG)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: edr@gtech.com (Eric D. Remington)
Subject: Re: why do cats....
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:55:53 GMT

In article <14kc91INN3oh@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> tmp@eb2lobby.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 28058@linus.mitre.org, pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith) writes:
>>ideas on why she does it.  During the early am (4am or so) she rubs her face
>
>
>My cat does the same thing! He wakes up every morning right before dawn and
>either nuzzles his nose against our faces or lick right under our nose.  If he
>doesn't get the attention right away, he'll proceed to take his paw and tap
>at my face.  Usually I hide my head under the covers and and he will leave, but
 
  Both of mine do this too. (rubbing, and tapping, x 2)
  I was told that cats have a scent gland on the side of their face, and by 
  rubbing you with the side of their face they are marking you as their 
  property.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: bette@wc.novell.com (Elizabeth Brennan)
Subject: Sunburn and Skin Cancer on cats
Keywords: cancer, sun
Reply-To: bette@wc.novell.com
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:01:22 GMT

Hi all,

I took MaiTai to the vet yesterday after being alerted by the net to
the possibility that the raw spots on her side might indicate ringworm.
Fortunately, all is well there.  It turned out to be what I had thought
it was -- a new manifestation of a recurrent flea allergy.  New medication
for her and renewed housecleaning vigalence for me seem to be working.

Anyway, while I was there, I asked about some scabs that had formed around
the tips of her ears.  The vet said that it was sunburn!  MaiTai is a pure
white kitty, with very pink ears.  This seems to be a very common problem
on cats of her description.  I had never heard of it before.  The vet also
said that he removed the tips of cats ears fairly regularly due to skin
cancer.  He suggested that I put an SPF 15 sunblock on her ears before
she goes out.

Since she only goes outside on weekend afternoons when I'm working around
the yard, I haven't had a chance to try the sunblock route yet.  Does
anyone have any experience with this?  Will she try to lick off the
sunblock?

Thanks,
Bette

bette@wc.novell.com
From: maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joan C. Maxfield)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why do I do this to myself????
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:54:41 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul24.185632.5784@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>AARGH!  I posted a few weeks back that I was having a hard time from
>pocketing one of the kittens at the vet's office -- but I resisted...
	And you did so good too!
>
>Anybody need a well-mannered, healthy female cat?  I'll toss in 
>shots and spaying...  Kittens?  
	Ok lets see, I could tell Dan that Im just going to cat sit
for you while your away lecturing.  You come home and um... fall and
hurt yourself so you of course cannot take poor kitty home.  I keep
kitty till you get better, yeah thats it!  Then before you heal, you
drop off the net never to be seen again!  And I get kittens!!
You think it would work?

>I gotta have "cat sucker" written all over me in letters 2 ft high...
	You must be pretty tall!
>>Kay Klier   Biology Dept  UNI     (319) 273-2218


Joan 

-- 
J. C. Maxfield				maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu
DISCLAIMER:  I don't speak for the University, but they often speak for me!
From: gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Re: Sudd. Lazy Cat---HES OK (WE THINK)
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:41:07 GMT
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <1992Jul25.210333.26583@athena.mit.edu> cid@athena.mit.edu (Derek H Cedillo) writes:

>                                           Just keep your cats away from any 
>  Alkyl dimethyl benzyl ammonium chlorides.  They are very bad news for cats.

I missed the beginning of this discussion.  What contains Alkyl dimethyl 
benzyl ammonium chlorides?  Just so I can make sure my cats can't get
into any.

Rene
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From: greg@korg3.columbiasc.ncr.com (Greg Porr)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Tapeworms (yuck!)...
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:58:47 GMT
Organization: NCR Corp, MCPD-Columbia, Columbia, SC

In article <92004@bu.edu> reyes@buphyd.bu.edu (Jinara Reyes) writes:
>Greetings everyone!...I adopted a stray cat last December, and just 
>noticed that she has tapeworms. (Yuck!--talk about gross!)
>The vet gave me a small pill to give her, and I was just wondering if anyone else has had a problem with worms. Does this 
>small pill really work??? (It had better--it took me half an hour to get
>my cat to swallow it!)....My cat (BC) is an indoor cat, but she was
>about a year old when I found her. I am assuming that she had the worms from 
>then. Fortunately, she shows no ill effects from them.

Bailey had them a few years ago.  The pill worked great; he hasn't had them
again.


-- Greg Porr
   (Greg.Porr@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: maji@max.u.washington.edu
Subject: URGENT! my cat stoped eating for 4 days now!
Organization: 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:44:37 GMT

My cat kitty lost interest in food for four days now.

It started Saturday morning, he vomited the dry food he had before. since
he sometimes did that and resumed eating in few hours. I didn't worry 
too much. Then that night I gave him some cat treats. he seems like it.
But few hours later he vomited again.(you can see it is the cat treats.)
He didn't want to eat anything. if you put the canned food under his nose.
he will just walk away. Sunday night I forced a little bit raw eff yolk
into his mouth.

On monday morning, before we took him to the vet, he vomitted again, this
time no food, only white foam(his stomache fluid?). After the check up,
the vet gave him several shots(vitamin, antibiotics and nutrient fluid.)
She gave me two kind of pills: Reglan and Amoxi. also she gave us several
cans of A/D and Science Diet. But kitty refused to eat anything. we forced
a little bit of A/D into his mouth. But this process is really a pain. He
struggled violently.

I fed him at 9:15pm last night and he throw out at 12:00pm. Now he didn't
vomit any white foamy stuff. so I force  feed a little bit. hope it stays
there.

I read some cat care book suggesting give cat some pepto-Bismol when 
vomitting. But kitty throw all those liquid out. 

What should I do? kitty still played with his toys on Saturday and Sunday.
but now he really weakened and lost interest in anything. 
(he is a neutered boy, orange tabby, long-hair. his normal food is dry
scinece diet maintenance , and canned Friskies.)

It really kills me to watch him vomiting in such a pain. and he just 
lies on the sofa. his eye doesn't shine. He looks so weak.

Any suggestion is welcome. Thanks for bearing with this long text.

Li

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From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Subject: Sylvia & dating the allergic
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:32:54 GMT

For those who have never seen the cartoon Sylvia, it's very hard to
explain.  Very sarcastic, definitely an acquired taste, and one of the
best portrayals of cats in comic strips.  

Anywho, this strip sounded very reminiscent of a recent discussion...

The Problem:
	My fiance is allergic to cats.  What should I do?
A Cat Therapist Responds:
	What do you mean, your fiance is allergic to cats?  That's
	like saying your fiance is married or has a closet full of
	women's shoes.  Where were your cats when he came over for
	dinner... in Toledo?  The whole thing sounds fishy to me.
	Give back the ring.
-- 
--------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu<---------------
"I want to be Robin to Bush's Batman."  Dan Quayle
Quick!  Notify DC.  I think it's time for another 900 number poll.
"We are enjoying a sluggish economy & not enjoying it very much."  --Bush
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Sleeping with Cats
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:37:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.163921.22878@den.mmc.com> snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell) writes:
>
>Any advise as a solution to this problem as I am going to Hawaii
>for 10 days in a week or so.  This is the longest separation I
>will have ever had from my cats.  I don't know if I can make it!  :-)
>

I have no advice on how not to miss sleeping with your cats.  You'll
just have to deal with it.  Try not to suffer too much in Hawaii!  :-)
As to your cats missing you, though, I usually ask a friend or cousin
to stay at my place every other night or so while I'm gone ... someone
my kids know and would be willing to sleep with as a surrogate.  It's
not the same for them, I'm sure, but at least it's a warm body to
cuddle with so they don't get desperate ...



--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
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From: young@serum.kodak.com [Rich Young (x37176)]
Subject: Re: Cleveland Amory
Originator: young@sasquatch
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:49:20 GMT

In article <anne.712517758@menaik> anne@cs.UAlberta.CA (Anne J.R. Nield) writes:

>young@serum.kodak.com [Rich Young (x37176)] writes:
>
>>	In one of the two books mentioned above, he specifically refers to
>>	his friendship with Alex Pacheco, who is important in PETA.  My
>>	recollection is fuzzy, so I could be wrong, but I think Alex Pacheco
>>	got his start in Cleveland Amory's organization.  The relationship
>>	is, as I said, explained in one of the two books.
>
>
>
>>Don't get angry, get accurate information.
>
>Gettng one's start in someone's organization does not necessarily
>guarantee that that "someone" supports everything you do from then
>on.  As I said, it would appear that Pacheco's position on pets and
>Amory's are completely contradictory.  In the interests of your own
>quote above, I think more than a "fuzzy recollection" is needed
>before circulating such negative stories.  I have friends that are
>downright weird (I even have a couple of friends who DON'T LIKE
>ANIMALS!!); it doesn't mean I support everything they do or fund
>their activities.  It just means we have enough in common to
>overlook the differences.  Could this be the case here?

	Look, I don't want to get into one of those ultimately futile flame
	wars over this...it's just not that important.  I posted my comments
	about Cleveland Amory and his friendship and support of Alex Pacheco,
	PETA, and other animal rights organizations because I figured that
	others, like me, might be annoyed to find that they had spent several
	hard-earned dollars on a book supposedly about a man and a cat, but
	which, in several places, is really a thinly-veiled paean to the
	Animal Rights movement in general, and the Fund for Animals in
	particular.  The books mentioned clearly have an agenda to promote.
	If you don't mind the occasional forays into the depths of the
	Fund for Animals' tacit support of the ramming of a whaling ship,
	for example, then, by all means, buy The Cat Who Came for Christmas,
	but I maintain that this has little to do with Cleveland Amory and
	his relationship with his cat, Polar Bear.

	I prefer my humor, at least as it relates to cats, without a political
	message attached, but, as I'm about to say for the third time: your
	mileage may vary.  You've been forewarned...and it IS your money.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Rich Young                             | Phone: (716) 253-7176
Eastman Kodak Company                  | FAX: (716) 253-7254
Clinical Products Division             | Internet: young@serum.kodak.com
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Rochester, New York, USA   14653-9122  | These are MY opinions, not Kodak's!!!
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Don't get angry, get accurate information.
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: holistic vets
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:23:06 GMT
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Organization: NMSU Computer Science


I found some information on Holistic Vets and Herbal pet remedies in 
the July 1991 (yes an old one) Country Living. I realize that this
info is about a year old, and may have been posted in the past, but
I thought some of you might be interested in it!

For Herbal Remedies for pets you can contact these companies:
	Ecco Bella
	6 Provost Square, Suite 602
	Caldwell, NJ 07006
	(800)888-5320 or (201) 226-5799

	Gardener's Supply Co.
	128 Intervale Rd.
	Burlington, VT 05401
	(802) 863-1700

	Home Health Products, Inc.
	1160 Millers Lane
	Virgina Beach, VA 23451
	(800) 284-9123

If you are interested in consulting a holistic vet:

	Send SASE to :
	American Holistic Veterinary Assn.
	Dept. CF
	2214 Old Emmerton Rd.
	Bel Air, Md, 21024


Also Books:
	_Natural Healing for Dogs and Cats_
	Richard and Susan Pitcairn
	Rondale Press &12.95 (as of 1991)

	_The Complete Herbal Book for the Dog_
	Juliette de Bairacli-Levy
	Arco Publishing (no price avail.)


Susan
From: iadt3mk@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael Kustermann)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Followup on "landlord won't let me keep a pet" posting
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:16:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Jul20.212927.10467@athena.mit.edu>, isako@mtl.mit.edu (Isako Hoshino) writes:
> I guess I got lucky.  I was frantically looking for a place.
> Fortunately, Most landlords are prtty open minded about cats.
> 
> THe apartment I live now, (I just moved in) was listed as "no
> pets".  I looked at it without knowing that, and met the
> landlord.  I was talking to him about putting holes in the wall
> for curtain rods, etc, and he was pretty agreeable.  Then I gave
> my killer line.. "uh..  I have a cat.  Would it be ok if I move
> in with the cat?"  The response was "sure.  Just be aware that
> any damage the cat will you, you will have to fix it or pay for
> 
> 			Isako
                              
I am one of those landlords with an absolute "no pets" policy.
People that apply for an apartment are not considered if they
have pets.  Then there are the exceptions I make ....
I had a tenant (she had no pets when she moved in) who turned   
out ot be the perfect tenant (always payed rent on time, etc.).
So when she asked me if she could keep a cat (she wouldn't get 
the cat if I said 'no') I said 'yes'.  (After that she got a       
second cat and when she moves out at the end of this month -
she will have lived there for 3 1/2 years - we will see if that
decision was a good one.)
So I guess it is true that not every landlord is such a stick in
the mud and it does depend on the applicant/tenant.  After all, they are
still people and if they like cats than that is a point in their
favour.

Michael.

-- 
Michael Kustermann - Georgia Institute of Technology - Atlanta, GA 30332
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From: charlesv@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Charles Van Duren)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Pesky Mockingbird bugs Cat
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:06:47 GMT

mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.) writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.224817.12432@leland.Stanford.EDU>, jay@cmn6.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis)    writes...
>>Recently a mockingbird has taken to harassing Dexter, my (retired) tomcat  
>>of 15 years +.  He doesn't seem overly concerned, but the bird has  
>>actually succeeded in pecking his butt a few times.  A few years ago, he  
>>would have died on his first attempt, but Dex is getting a bit soft in his  
>>old age.  Anyone know how to get the bird off his back?  (My current  

Maybe Dexter is getting his come-uppance?

>There probably is a good chance that the bird is nesting and is protecting 
>it's area. They are pretty territorial anyway.

Our cat gets hassled regularly by the BEW (Bird Early Warning) system. The
swallows, robins, and a couple of wrens that nest around our place set up
a regular din when she's in sight during nesting season. I can tell where
she is, even if I can't see her. She mostly ignores them, except to make
the occasional grab at the swallows when they dive-bomb her.

Of course, she likes to sit under the swallow nest, looking up, waiting
for tasty little snacks to drop from the sky. Her behaviour is quite rude!

We once lived with a cat that had a thing going with the local Stellar's
Jay about who would get the cat crunchies. It was quite amusing, but
expensive: the jay ate an enormous amount.

>I don't know, I'm a big fan of mockingbirds so I guess that I would suggest 
>that your cat avoid confrontations by picking spots to hang out where he 
>won't be harassed. :) To me, it's kind of nice that the bird doesn't have to 
>pay with it's life, where in the past, your cat would have had the upper 
>hand. That seems kind of balanced.

Exactly. A lot of these inter-species things have to do with defining
the terms of co-existence. The mockingbird is now asserting it's rights.

Fun to watch, in any case.

CvD
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