HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: badr@sbbadr.cs.sunysb.edu (Hussein Badr)
Subject: Re: NY Times article on the Copts
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:07:22 GMT

In article <essa.712380463@willow.cs.scarolina.edu> essa@cs.scarolina.edu (Ossama Ahmed Essa) writes:

      [long response deleted]

  I hate to start taking issue with what Ahmed Essa said in his message, and
I am not looking for a flame war, but I can't let his comments pass in
silence.

  I am not only Egyptian, but one who has close links with the part of Egypt
covered by the NYT article. My family has, for generations, possessed land
in Mallawi (southern Minya province and about 10 kilometres north of Dayrut),
though we are, in essence, originally from Lower Egypt.

  While I can't vouch for the accuracy of the report concerning the numbers
and details of the recent killings (since I wasn't there) I can certainly
state that the general tenor of the article is far more accurate than not.
"Protection money" *is* exacted. The Islamic "Gami'yat" do enforce what
is pretty much indistinguishable from a reign of terror a lot of the time.
If there are any Coptic militants about, they are atoms compared to the
tidal wave of the "Gami'yat". The fact of the matter is that, since the
mid-'70's, the whole fabric of society in that part of Egypt has been ripped
apart and, lately, the situation has seemed to be spinning completely out
of control, and I have no doubt (because I have it seen with my own eyes) that
the Muslims bear a far, far heavier responsibility for that than the Copts. So
don't tell *me* it's all Western/Zionist/blah/blah propaganda: it's my family
that has received threats, had its sugar cane set afire, and on and on (I
shan't bore with a litany of incidents stretching back to 1974 - 75. My own
grandmother was shot dead in our house by a kid - 16 years old - from the
Gami'yat back in 1980). And why? Because we are Muslims who commit the supreme
crime of insisting on employing Copts - brother Egyptians whose roots in the
land run, if anything, deeper than ours! - as well as Muslims on our land, as
we have been doing for at least four generations.

   The situation in other parts of Egypt is, thank God, nowhere near as bad
as it is in that stretch from Minya to Assuyt, so many Egyptian Muslims are,
I think, not fully aware of just *how bad* it is down there. But it behooves
all of us Egyptians who truly care for our country and its national unity (let
alone the true spirit of our religion, if we happen to be Muslim) to face the
facts and do something about them, not indulge in denials and worn out
litanies.

                                  Sincerely,

                                    Hussein Badr


p.s. Ahmad, you are more than welcome to come and stay at our place in Mallawi
     some time when we're both in Egypt (I'll be returning to Egypt in December
     for a visit - my third visit this year) and I'll show the facts our
     lives there.
From: malek@pi.titech.ac.jp (Zidouri Abdelmalek 03/95)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (21st)
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:20:46 GMT
	<1992Jul22.185625.4914@cco.caltech.edu>
Organization: Tokyo Institute of Tech., Precision and Intelligence Lab., Japan
In-reply-to: bes@cco.caltech.edu's message of 22 Jul 92 18:56:25 GMT

> (Arun K. Gupta) writes:
>   >
>   >I'm not sure that anybody takes the ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS seriously;
>   >in case they do, some corrections are in order.
>
>   I know of at least two people who take it seriously.  One of them
>   is me, the other one is you.
    
    Here is an other one, BUT I have a problem in getting all the 
   issues if the number between () reffers to the date then how 
   often does  I.W.N appear ?, for example from 17th to 21st is 
   there any issue or if it is an issue number that means 
   I 'm missing more!

>   >  [Long article deleted]
>   >

>   Regards,
>   Behnam Sadeghi
  Thanks.
--
 Malek.
 
 "We cooperate in what we agree on, and forgive each other for that
  in which we disagree." Hassan El Banna.
From: LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Lois White)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Egyptian E-mail Wanted.
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:02:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Thank you for posting the FRCU statement.  I would like to add an update,
because the statement was issued before American University at Cairo
changed its nodename to EGAUCACS.  It is no longer AUC.EG.
From: oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic grammar question
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:04:24 GMT
Organization: IMAG, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ggrieve@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (greig.grieve) writes:
: An archaeological excavation taking place in the Nile delta is usually referred
: to as "Tell el-Dab`a". The Egypt Exploration Society's bulletin "Egyptian
: Archaeology" calls the site "Tell ed-Dab`a". I understand that this is the
: correct form, according to the rules of Arabic grammer. Can someone please
: explain this rule?

  It's a question of pronounciation. The "el" (alef lam, equivalent of the
English "THE") can be pronounced in two ways, depends on the letter which 
follows, however, it's ALWAYS written.

  FIRST CASE : The "lam" isn't pronounced, it's substituded by a "shaddah"
so it sounds as if the letter which follows is written twice, example :
ed-Dab`a (yes, you are correct, this is the correct form). In this case, the
lam is called "lam shamsiah" (shams = sun), i don't know where does this name
come from, maybe someone with a good knowledge of tajweed can tell us.
Some of the letters which impose this rule : 'T', 'Th', 'D', 'S', 'R', 'Z'..

  Second CASE : The lam is pronounced, example : "Al-Bab" (the door). In this
case the lam is called "lam kamariah" (kamar = moon).
Some of the letters which impose this rule : 'A', 'j', 'K', 'B', 'F', 'L',..
  
  Hope it answers your question.
  PS : I've promised to send a copy of Arabic coding sets, i'm sorry for being
late but i wasn't able to find a scanner till today, so i'll post them during
the weekend.

   

--
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    Ya jamal(al) majd(i) fi(l) kutub(i) | LABORATOIRE 	BULL-IMAG
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From: lhermi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Subject: RE: JOKE, or jeffrey your joke is as silly as you are
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:37:40 GMT

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Article 10750 (1 more) in soc.culture.arabic:
From: uk02757@nx25.mik.uky.edu (jeffrey t hazelwood)
Subject: JOKE
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:47:38 GMT

Asalaam ala Kul arabi homar wa ahamaq wa mejanoon wa mutahelaf,

Kana honaka fee quadim al zamen rajaloon bachil arabi qala li ibna qom wa  
salee wa bada thelik erjalee wa qolee man hoa rabooq an'dama halasa al ibn  
salatoh raja ila wa qala laho rabee hoa allah.  Fasafahoo abuhoo ala wujhe 
wa qala lahoo hetha galat faqala lahoo abu rabooka hoa al man.  Wa andama  
qala ibnahoo lahoo hetha sahia.  Fara ha abuhoo wa atahoo qatata gobzin  
yasab ala al hiwan hathmo!!!!

(laugh! laugh!)


UHKA ANNAHU KANNA FIQADIMI AZZAMANI RAJULUN MUGHAFALUN ISTAKHAFFA BI-KHAALIKIHI
UQALU LAHU FIRAW'N. ISTAKHAFA FIRRAWNU QAWMAHU WA DHANNA ANNAHU BIMULKIHI 
LIMISRA ISTAHAKA AL-ULUHIYATA. WA KANNA HUNAKA JARULUN MU'MINUN MIN BANI 
ISRAEL FI BAITI FIRWA'N, FA ANTHARAHUM ANNA AKHTA ALLAHI SHADID, FALLA 
YASTAKBIRUNNA  FILARTHI BIGHAIRI HAQQIN... WA ANTA TA'RIFU AL-BAQQI, AL-
MOULLIMOUN QADIMOUN BI 'IZZI AZZIZIN WA DHILI DHALILIN: IZZIL-ISLAMI WA AHLILI
WA DHILI AL-KUFRI WA AHLILIHI MIN BANIL ASFARI WA ATHYALHIM, FA INTADDHIROU
INNA MA'AKUM MOUNTADHIROUN,
AWAUHA EL-AKHOU A'RIDHOU ANIL JAHILINA MIN AMTHALI jeffrey hazelwood, 
al-yahoudi qalban wa qaliba.
From: khan@davidsys.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Naqshbandiyya Sufi Master
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:32:50 PST
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA





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                        THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUFI MASTERS!


      Whether you are from a Muslim background or a non-Muslim
background [Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, etc.],
you will experience unusual spirituality when you come to
our friendly gatherings. 

      Sufism deals with a universal truth, and cleansing 
of the Spiritual Heart, the Essence of every human being.

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                 Naqshbandiyya Sufi Order
                 of Bukhara, Central Asia.

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      Weekly meetings at San Francisco South Bay [Silicon Valley]
and Oakland locations. 

      ALL INVITED, WITHOUT ANY OBLIGATION, TO JOIN IN
OUR HALAQA, EVEN IF YOU TEND TO DISAGREE WITH THE SUFI
WAY OF APPRECIATING THIS UNIVERSE.




Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,sci.lang,rec.arts.sf-lovers
From: cc697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Oppen)
Subject: Effinger's Arabic vocabulary
Reply-To: cc697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Oppen)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 06:15:44 GMT


In George Alec Effinger's "Budayeen" trilogy (_When Gravity Fails_, _A Fire
In The Sun_, and _The Exile Kiss_), he writes about a "cyberpunk" Arabic-
culture city in a future about two centuries from now.  

My question is:  Does anybody out there know what the word "Budayeen"
means? In Effinger's work, it is the rough, dangerous neighborhood where
his hero Marid Audran lives, works, and has his being.  With the "-een"
ending, I assume that it's Arabic, and is plural, but I'd like to know if
anybody out there knows what it means.

BTW, the Budayeen is based strongly on the Old French Quarter of New
Orleans. It is where the decadent pleasures forbidden by Islam are partaken
in openly, and is walled off from the rest of the city.  Symbolically,
there are only two gates in this wall---one at the cemetery, the other at
the main mosque, symbolizing that a life of sin can only be escaped by
salvation or death.  Most of the Budayeen's residents do not pay much mind
to this symbolism.

Please answer me in e-mail, since I don't often get to log on here. Thanks!
-- 
Technomad.  Portmanteau word from a novel I'm roughing out, about
a nomadic culture in a "cyberpunk" dark future.  I thought it up
before Cyberpunk 2020 ever came out.  On ISCA and Quartz, they
know me as a Flame-god.  cc697@cleveland.freenet.edu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:2832 talk.politics.mideast:17091
From: oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (21st)
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:11:26 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: IMAG, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

imnet2@max.u.washington.edu writes:

: The secular Palestinians and the Arab regimes are so anxious to surrender
: to Israel in order to appease the US that they are prepared to accept
: any demands that the Americans make of them.
: The Muslim Arab and Palestinian masses deserve better.
: 

  ONE WORD, let the Palestinians decide for themsleves, and go to the hell,
you and your "news". 

  NO regards, and try to be less biased next time.
  Ibaa Oueichek oueichek@imag.imag.fr
From: masouid@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ali Souid)
Subject: Joke #9
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 20:53:50 EDT



Now, this:



Upon a major earthquake in San Francisco, Ca, the famous
highway 880 was badly damaged and collapsed.

The mayor of the city suggested a new name to it?. 







440
From: naina@eng.umd.edu ('Mohammed Rafay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Interest/Financing cars and homes
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:03:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Jul24.160342.11174
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: naina@delorean.eng.umd.edu

Assalam alekum,

I have a question and a doubt if anyone can calrify it I would really
aprreciate their help and may Allah reward them for their help.

My question is about interest or financing of cars and homes.
Is it okay if you buy a car from a dealer with financing? I know that
I will be paying interest but, one of the brothers said that don't 
look at it from the interest point of view think that the car costs 
so much and that you are paying that in installments. 

I have a car which is pretty old and constantly giving me trouble 
and I end paying the mechanic quite a bit and also the inconvience to
my work. I was looking towards buying a new car cause if I buy a used
car again it may also start giving trouble after some time and I can't
afford to buy a new car cash down. Can anyone please advise me what to
do or is there any Islamic organization out here that gives interest
free loans or do auto financing?

My other question is mortage on houses is it advisable to pay the 
mortage and own the home or just pay the rent and never own it.

I know interest is haram in Islam but what is a guy supposed to do 
under these conidtions. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
May Allah reward you for your help.

 Wasalam alekum.

Your brother in Islam 

Rafay Mohammed.
(naina@lotus.eng.umd.edu)
From: karr@ukc.ac.uk (K.A.R.Razzooqi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Information about American Uni.
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:17:25 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

Hello Everybody,

        I am seeking some information about American Universities.
        The ones I am interested in are MIT,Carnegie-Mellon,Stanford and Northwestern.
        I am going to apply for PhD in the field of Data Communication/Networks.
        And I need some information about projects and names of supervisors whom I can contact at these Uni's.
        So I will be very grateful if somebody can help in this matter.
        And thank you in advance.

Kutaiba Razzooqi.


(PS: currently I am doing my MSc in Optical Communication and I wish to apply        for Sep.1993)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: uk02757@nx25.mik.uky.edu (jeffrey t hazelwood)
Subject: UAE INFORMATION
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:42:25 GMT

Asalaam alaykum!!

Kayf halak?  Does anyone know if UAE is connected to Internet?  Is there  
an e-mail addresses to the university there?  Thanks for the info.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeffrey T. Hazelwood "Jafr"    University of Kentucky 
German Major 
NeXT Mail Welcome!        "I've got them right where they want me!"
EMAIL:     uk02757@ms.uky.edu  or  uk02757@mik.uky.edu 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: CFV: alt.us.visas
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:36:48 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)

How about creating a group called alt.us.visas.  By the addition of this 
group we could help folks mostly interested in visa information from any 
country to get that information easily.  A FAQ will also be helpful. 
This will moderate many of the soc groups. 


**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
**********************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: badr@sbbadr.cs.sunysb.edu (Hussein Badr)
Subject: Re: NY Times article on the Copts
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:32:24 GMT


   Ossama,

    In my preceding posting, I picked your second name by mistake and kept
calling you Ahmad. My apologies, no offense intended.

                            Regards,

                              Hussein
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: borrel@sigallah.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Subject: Um Kalthoum soundbytes / texts
Keywords: UmKalthoum,sound,music,song,multimedia
Reply-To: borrel@sigallah.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:10:46 GMT

Music lovers,

The liasun3.epfl.ch server at the Laboratoire d'Intelligence Artificielle,  
Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne has become a multimedia server.  
Some of the Um Kalthoum songs are being supplemented with soundbytes. This  
is now the content of users/choueiry/UmKoulthoum/Zikrayat:

-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia      747556 Jul 29 15:26 zik.end.au
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia     1079320 Jul 29 15:37 zik.start.au
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia       15180 Jul 28 14:12 zikrayat.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 choueiry dilia         675 Jul 29 15:42 zikrayat.msg

The .gif file is a gif image of the song text. (It can be requested from  
me in real text format for the Arabic Mac OS.) The .au files are SUN  
format sound files. They can be played on SUN machines with  
/usr/demo/SOUND/play. Use the -v option to adjust the volume (0-100). The  
sox utility will allow you to convert the soundbytes to other formats for  
most machine with sound options. Enjoy!

- Barre (borrel@dhhalden.no)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:2848 soc.culture.pakistan:12710 talk.politics.mideast:17158
From: kaabrown@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (kathy ann brown)
Subject: middle east studies departments
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:05:25 GMT

I hope to get a degree in History and "Middle East" Studies.  
I've read about numerous programs here, but I'd like some opinions or
input about other departments.   I want to continue my Arabic language
studies as well.  Is Harvard as good as it sounds?  Has anyone heard
about the UT Austin dept?  How about Columbia?

Thanks!

--Ann

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: wam2221@zeus.tamu.edu (WA'EL A. MASSARWEH)
Subject: Re: JOKE
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:38:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.14738.24628@ms.uky.edu>, uk02757@nx25.mik.uky.edu (jeffrey t hazelwood) writes...
>Asalaam ala Kul arabi homar wa ahamaq wa mejanoon wa mutahelaf,

I see that you have done a good job learning Arabic ....
You Ass, keep your insults to yourself ...

Wa'el
From: mmokhtar@attmail.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Newest News Groups
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:40:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T
Originator: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com

In article <28JUL199216155335@bestsd.sdsu.edu> beasley@bestsd.sdsu.edu (Bev Beasley) writes:
>Assalamu Alaikum-

Wa `alaykum assalam

>Today I noticed the creation of three new news groups, which are:
>
>alt.wanted.moslem.men
>alt.wanted.moslem.women
>alt.wanted.moslem gay
>
>I don't know if this is a joke, or what the purpose is.  But it seems
>a bit strange that since homosexuality is forbidden in Islam, why is 
>there a news group?!

  All three news groups are a joke. The normal Usenet process for creating
news groups was not observed; no proposal was made and no vote was taken. That
means that these groups will not be carried by the majority of the network,
at least for now.


Assalamu `alaykum,

Mazen Mokhtar
Organization: Software Development, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.iranian
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:29:29 -0400 
From: "Sohan C. Ramakrishna-Pillai" <sohan+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Iran stops Pakistani train carrying 'anti-Islamic slogans'
	<4628@daily-planet.concordia.ca>

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.arabic: 29-Jul-92 Re: Iran stops
Pakistani tr.. Ilyess Bdira@athena.conc (1070)

> At the time of Khomeini, Iran was sectarian but at least principled,
> but now it is sectarian and machiavellistic..

!!!
Could you amplify on that?
___
Sohan C. Ramakrishna-Pillai
Office: UCC 181	Phone: x6406 [(412)268-6406]

 "In the beginning, man created beer, and it was good. God was
  created shortly thereafter." Gospel According to Brew, 1:1

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: essa@cs.scarolina.edu (Ossama Ahmed Essa)
Subject: Re: Arabic grammar question
Keywords: Tell el Dab`a or Tell ed Dab`a ?
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 23 Jul 92 06:13:56 GMT

ggrieve@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (greig.grieve) writes:

>An archaeological excavation taking place in the Nile delta is usually referred
>to as "Tell el-Dab`a". The Egypt Exploration Society's bulletin "Egyptian
>Archaeology" calls the site "Tell ed-Dab`a". I understand that this is the
>correct form, according to the rules of Arabic grammer. Can someone please
>explain this rule?

  The rule for pronouncing Al At-a'reef (the definite article, like "THE" in
English) is as follows. There are 2 al's, al A'shamsya and al Al-qamariah which
is loosely translated the solar and the lunar AL resp. The solar AL is there but
you can't pronounce it( like the sun, it's there but you can't stand looking at
it). The lunar AL is there and you pronounce it (like the moon, it's there and
you can always look at it). In the phrase you mentioned "Tell ed-Dab'a" AL was
followed by Daad which made it a solar AL. The following is a list of arabic
alphabet where the letters that make AL to be solar are in quotes.

Alef, Ba'e, "Ta'e", "Tha'e", Jeem, Ha'e, Kha'e, "Daal", "Thaal", "Ra'e",
"Zain", "Seen", "Sheen", "SaaD", "DaaD", "Tah", "Zhah", Ein, Ghein, Fa'e,
Qaaf, Kaaf, "Laam", Meem, "Noon", Ha'e, Waw, Ya'e.

If the noun attached to AL starts with one of the quoted letters, the Laam (L) 
in AL is not pronounced. An example, the word "Thawab" (reward) starts with 
Tha'e (which is quoted). If it is attached to AL it is pronounced A-Thawab.
Where the word "Jameel" (beatiful) if attached to AL it is pronounced Al-Jameel.

Ossama Essa
From: masouid@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ali Souid)
Subject: Joke #8
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 16:17:26 EDT


Floks, How about this:


An American went to Syria for a visit. He loved the country, but he felt
the Arabic language is so hard to learn!!.
While he is eating in the hotel, a Syrian (who doesn't know english at ALL)
came to the American and told him: Bilhana Walshefa (like enjoy your meal).
the American responded: Tim (he thought that the Syrian asked him his name).    

Some days later, the American could know several expressions among them
was the meaning of Bilhana walshefa. He felt so sorry to what had happened
at that time and wanted to see the guy again to apologize.

Yes, during one dinner the American saw the Syrian guy eating his
dinner in the hotel. The American came directly to him and told him:
Bilhana Walshefa. The Syrian responded with a thankful face: Tim.





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Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (21st)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:56:25 GMT

In article <MePKQeC00VAw8By1US@andrew.cmu.edu> ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta) writes:
>
>I'm not sure that anybody takes the ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS seriously;
>in case they do, some corrections are in order.

I know of at least two people who take it seriously.  One of them
is me, the other one is you.

>  [Long article deleted]
>

Regards,
Behnam Sadeghi