From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Packer notes
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:10:57 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

Brian Noble has asked to be traded.  He's really serious.  I think he 
has some valid complaints in his salary debate with the Packers.  He 
was paid 600K last year.  The Packers have offered $700K.  Moble has 
come down from his original asking price of $1 million.  He says the 
comperable players average $850K and that he wants at least what 
Ruettgers and Moran are getting (around $800K).

I agree.  $850K is a reasonable market value for Noble.  His new 
asking price of $800K is something of a bargain.  Ron Wolf is quoted 
in the Milwaukee Journal as saying "I have no feeling for what he 
means to this team."  For his part, Noble seems not to have an 
inflated idea of his value.  He's quoted as saying "I believe I'm a 
little better than the average linebacker [...]"

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Terrell Buckley's agent, Carl Poston, says Buckley will definately not 
sign for less than the $1.5 M per year Sean Gilbert got.  Desmond 
Howard is reportedly getting $1.475 M per year and Poston says the 
Redskins are probably slipping Howard some money "under the table".  
(!!!!!!!  I'm starting to believe that this guy Poston really *is* the 
problem as Ron Wolf implied.)

Packers are offering $1.35 M and Buckley's asking for $1.8 M.

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I have no news on the Packer cuts.  They are not listed in the paper I 
have.

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The game last week against the Rams: It wasn't as bad as some people 
have made it out to be.  The Packers dominated statistically and were 
ahead on the scoreboard at half time.  I said after the KC game that 
the Packers would have lost if both teams had left their 1st string 
in.  Now I'm saying the Packers would have won if both teams had left 
their 1st string in the whole game.

Greg Bell had 56 yds on 14 carries.  Majik was 12-16 but for only 84 
yds.  Favre was 11-16/104 yds (1 int).  Detmer was 6-10/71 yds (1 
int).  In spite of his stats I think Detmer had his worst outing so 
far.  He looked a little confused.  Maybe it's just that for once he 
did not look better than Favre.

I don't know what to say about the defense.  Still no pass rush.  The 
secondary looked okay under the circumstances.  Billups had another 
interception.

One strange thing happened.  With about 20 secs left in the game 
Detmer completed a pass for a 1st down at the Ram 26.  They hurried up 
to the line and snapped the ball.  Detmer did the 'immediate spike' 
thing with 10 seconds left.  Apparently, he didn't know they still had 
1 timeout left.  The Packers were called for illegal formation but the 
Rams declined the penalty.  (Why?  I don't know - it would have made 
the FG attempt 5 yds longer.)

The field goal unit ran onto the field and Holmgren called Dexter 
McNabb back and told him to get Favre to call a timeout.  McNabb got 
into formation but was yelling back at Favre to call a timeout.  
Favre, who also thought the Packers were out of timeouts, wouldn't do 
it.  The ball was snapped and Jacke missed the 43 yd FG attempt that 
would have won the game.

I'm going to watch my tape of the game and make sure that the Packers 
actually did have a timeout left.

JGH