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From: johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson)
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Keywords: minor spoilers
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 22:02:31 GMT

In article <78752@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge A. Diaz) writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.001056.19236@spectra.com> johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson) writes:
>
>>I thought the most glaring problem with the tower being out of
>>communication with the airplanes was that there must have been many
>>planes at the gates somebody could have boarded, switched on the radio,
>>and let all of the planes in the air know the facts along with
>>instructions to divert to an alternate airport immediately.
>
>Um, the Colonel did say that any attempt to contact the planes would have
>resulted in strict disciplinary action (and it did).

True, but what did they do for that disciplinary action?  Just to avoid a
big spoiler I won't say, but it would have been completely avoided if they
could have contacted the planes.  Wasn't security attempting to reach an
unused transmitter when they were ambushed and then the transmitter
blown up?
OTOH I suppose they would have alternatively rounded up a roomful of
travelers and held them hostage like in DH 1 and maybe shot some for an
example.

>>Nevertheless, I thought it was a great movie.  You just have to overlook
>>the implausabilities.
>
>I thought it was good, but not as good as the first.

I was wondering for awhile if they just rewrote the first movie's script
to take place in an airport.  I can't think of many of the
implausabilities right now other than what has been in this thread.
One of them was the poor security (on the plane) guarding the dictator 
they were extraditing.  Couldn't anyone have phoned or used a police
radio to contact anybody in the city, phoned an air base enroute from
South (or was it Central) America and ordered that military plane to land?
Another was how Willis reached the landed planes within seconds of when 
they flew about 100 feet over his head, landing probably 1/2 mile or
more down the runway.

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From: adobrien@unix1.tcd.ie (Austin O'Brien)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Has anyone seen this film?
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:40:19 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Dec17.075854.2543@inland.com> deck@inland.com writes:


>	Has anyone seen a new film starring Anthony Hopkins entitled,"The
>Efficiency Expert"?  Siskel and Ebert raved about it and claimed it was a
>'90's version of the popular British comedies of the '50's (MAke Mine Mink,
>I'm All Right, Jack, etc). It involved Hopkins as the title character who comes
>to "straighten out" an Austrailian toy factory.  This film hasn't shown up in
>the Chicago area as yet and I was curious about it.
>		Jim Deck
>==============================================================================
>DECK@INLAND.COM
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I believe the film is entitled 'Spotswood'.

(But may be I'm thinking of a different Hopkins picture)


Austin.
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From: ALI00ERW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:28:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.164354.13538@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
 
>
>In article <Bzyp9s.A24@news.iastate.edu> s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>
>What is the real definition of "deconstructionist"?  Anyone know for
>sure?
 
Yeah, its the Marxist version of speaking in tongues.
 
>>By the way, the opening of Dracula coincided almost to the day with the
>>German government's decision to encourage Gypsies living in Germany to
>>"return" to Romania.  If you don't think there's a connection between
>>such political decisions and the way the Gypsies have been and are
>>depicted in works of "culture," I frankly pity you.
>
 
The connection predates Francis Ford Coppola by quite a few hundred years.
Plus, there are much stronger and more direct links between cultural arti-
facts *produced and consumed in Central Europe* and persecution of an ethnic
in Central Europe.
 
Sincerely,
 
Erin
From: ehigh@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Egyirba High)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Date: 26 Dec 92 04:41:20 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

Am I dating myself?  For me it was Godzilla meets the Thing and all the other ones, Creature from the Black Lagoon.  I don't know how I would have survived Friday, the 13th, et. al....
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From: logic@wet.UUCP (Henry Kwan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: WANTED - Lucasfilm THX Demo Laserdisc
Keywords: Laserdisc
Date: 2 Jan 93 12:44:49 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Dec30.001609.22675@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>>I'm after (and have been for a while) the demo laserdisc that purchasers
>>of THX home systems are reported to get when the buy.
>
>Someone in rec.video some time ago said that only *dealers* get it.
>-- 
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No, anyone who purchases a THX decoder get a WOW! disc.  (At least I assume
it's only decoders since a friend purchased a Fosgate DSL-3 and a set of
Snell THX MultiMedia speakers separately and only got one disc.)

The disc begins with the older "THX Logo" trailer and concludes with the
"Conducter" trailer.  In between is a medley of greatest scenes from
LucasFilm productions (Star Wars Trilogy, Indiana Jones Trilogy, Willow,
etc.).  It's a pretty good demo disc.  The only complaint I have about it is
that the second trailer isn't complete (they cut out the conductor from the
very beginning of the trailer).

I had thought that LucasFilm was selling this disc to general public
directly at $39.95 but I may be mistaken.  Anyone else know for sure?

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From: cal@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Cal Lott)
Subject: Re: Underrated Actor: Alan Rickman 
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:14:58 GMT

anna@psych.toronto.edu (Anna Filippone) writes:

>Definitely Alan Rickman.  I saw two films he was in this weekend.  One was  
>"Close My Eyes" where he played the husband of a woman who has an affair
>with her brother.  The other was "Truly, Madly, Deeply" -- a film I heard
>being called the film that "Ghost" should have been (and I agree).  Both
>films are highly recommended.
>
>And you must admit that he was the best part of Robin Hood:  Prince of
>Thieves as the Sherriff of Nottingham.

	Well, he certainly hammed it up. I think that he did the best
he could, given the caliber of the script that he labored under.

>Has he been in other films?  

	He had a delicious turn as the villain in Die Hard, his first
"big" film break in the U.S.

	Personally, I have yet to see his other films, so I do not
feel comfortable labeling him as either over- or underrated.

					-Cal
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From: durandm@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Durand Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Batman Sequels
Summary: Burton won't direct BATMAN III
Keywords: Burton, animation, Montreal International Film Festival
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:55:33 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Burton said, when he was honored last august at the Montreal International
Film Festival, that he would like to get back to drawing. He told us that he
began his career by working at Disney Studios as an animator. His next project
would be to direct an animated film. So it's most probable that he won't
direct BATMAN III, if BATMAN III there is...


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From: mccoy39@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Reservoir Dogs weakness <Spoilers>
Date: 23 Dec 92 02:50:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <3220099@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, dling@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (David Ling)
writes:



>     So the big question is why didn't the cops come sooner????!!!!  They
>     should have known that the tortured cop was missing, that they the
>     sounds of bullets were flying, that Mr. Blond went to get gasoline,
>     etc. etc.  The cops would not have waited for Joe if potentially
>     two cops were in mortal danger.


Perhaps the police were overzealous and ignored the danger to the
officers inside, wanting instead to catch Joe at any cost.

Perhaps the the police outside thought that the cops were already 
dead...  

Anyway, it seems plausible to me that the police can be totally
ignorant: this was a very poorly planned sting operation, a botched
job, a major screw-up.  The police made a mistake. 


mccoy39
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From: maus@fid.morgan.com (Malcolm Austin)
Subject: Re: res. dogs SPOILERS (really!)
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:19:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.061533.25644@netcom.com> estrayer@netcom.com (Eric Strayer) writes:
<iqv@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
<<1)  What was the score at the end of the movie?   It looked like the keitel
<<character shot Joe, and fast eddie shot keitel, and joe shot mr orange, but
<<who shot fast eddie?  did keitel get off two shots, or was it mr orange, or
<<what?  it happened so fast I missed it.
<
<Seems the real question is how did Fast Eddie get shot? Joe was pointing
<the gun at Mr. Orange. Keitel was pointing at Joe. Eddie was pointing at 
<Keitel. Nobody was pointing at Eddie and Orange just couldn't have taken
<another hit! Well, it was a movie, but I sure kept forgetting that little
<fact!

Mr. Pink shot Eddie from under the ramp.


    "George Phblat's new film, 'Benji Saves the Universe,' has brought
    the word 'BAD' to new levels of badness.  Bad acting.  Bad effects.
    Bad everything.  This film just oozed rottenness from every bad
    scene...Simply bad beyond all infinite dimensions of possible
    badness.  Well maybe not that bad, but Lord, it wasn't good."
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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Critics Awards (so far)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:47:40 GMT

Here is a list of Critics Awards (so far) for films of 1992:

LA Film Critics:

Best Picture: The Unforgiven
Best Director: CLint Eastwood  The Unforgiven
Best Actor:  Clint Eastwood    The Unforgiven
Best Actress:  Emma Thompson   Howards End
Best Supp Actor:  Gene Hackman  The Unforgiven
Best Supp Actress : Judy Davis   Husbands and Wives

New York Film Critics Circle:

Best Picture: The Player
Best Director:  Robert Altman   The Player
Best Actor:  Denzel Washington   Malcolm X
Best Actress: Emma Thompson   Howards End
Best Supp. Actor:  Gene Hackman   The Unforgiven
Best Supp. Actress: Miranda Richardson   The Crying Game, Damage, Enchanted 
April  ( recogniton of her work in all 3 films)

National Board of Review:

Best Picture: Howards End
Best Director: James Ivory   Howards End
Best Actor: Jack Lemmon   Glengarry Glen Ross
Best Actress:  Emma Thompson   Howards End
Best Supp Actor:  Jack Nicholson   Howards End
Best Supp Actress:  Judy Davis    Husbands and Wives
From: d40937@pascal (Jean Yves Desbiens)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Films that Educate & Entertain
Summary: Would like info on films that express an era, a culture
Date: 30 Dec 92 09:41:51 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I adore film that truly recreate the ambiance of a place, that
lets us peak at the morality, the fealings, of an era.
Many recreation are merely decors and costumes when its the
little things, the attention do details, to characters that
make us believe we are peaking into their lives.
Historical pieces can be recreations, but they can also
true expressions of the time they were made in; history 
seem to run rampant through their veins.

I would like examples from both forms : esquisite recreation of
character and places and times & those time capsule films
that express an era or a place or a way of living.  
---------------
Examples , recreations :

A Room With a View, Howards End ( Late victorian, Edwardian )
A Passage To India ( Colonial India in the 20s)
Cabaret ( decadent Berlin )
My Mother's Castle, My Father's Glory ( French provincial life some time ago)
The Killing Fieilds ( Cambodia during the Kmer Rouge's horrific rule )
etc...

Could also be a film that for example expresses perfectly what one feels
when living in a particular city,country, right now, New York, Paris, etc.

Examples , timepieces & culture snapshot:

Doctor Mabuse Gambler ( decadent Berlin in the early 20s)
Wings of Desire ( Wall and surrounding just before it came down )
Alexanderplatz ( Massive documentary, Long but interesting )
Open City  ( Italy after the war )
Children of Paradise ( Paris after the war)
etc...

Can also look at current culture, events anywhere in the world.
-----------------
Any title documentary or films are welcomed, for the timepieces they 
don't need to be the greatest entertainment on earth, but it is preferable
that they be well made. With this, We could have a way of absorbing 
with little or no pain, maybe this is what the MTV generation needs,
culture, history, etc. Society must adapt to the new age, teachers
must use every means they possess, and great movies can profoundly
affect people, make them remember and understand, don't we know it,
we read this group with fervor for a reason... :-).

post if it is of general interest or
email at d40937@info.polymtl.ca ( I have problem with my Reply To header
				 line so you may have to change the 
				 address manually )

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From: durandm@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Durand Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Tim Burton Movies HA!
Summary: A reply to rescue Burton'way of making movies
Date: 23 Dec 92 03:55:43 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Dec14.185712.10628@vlsi.polymtl.ca> d40937@aiken (Jean Yves Desbiens) writes:
>IN following with that tread, I may add that all
>his movies leave me cold inside when they finish. Its
>like he was trying to proove how much different his
>movies are than any others and that is about it.
[stuff deleted]
But, at least Linch doesn't pretend to be anything else but
>a lunatic, his movies truly express his deranged perception
>of life. Tim Burton *tries* to paint strange worlds 
B
>that are still appealing to the masses, creating
B
>strange bastard films that should be put out of
>their misery. Instead of riping off every idea that
B
>ever surfaced and making them worse, he should stick 
>to simple straight forward stories, convoluted
>is not "in" Burty boy.
>
>--
Listen, it's your opinion and I can only respect it. But let me add the remark
that David Lynch is as cerebral a director can be than Tim Burton. One of 
Lynch's last film, Wild at Heart, is full of allusions and "reprises" taken from
movies as ecclectic as Wizard of Oz (yeah, that one!!) and typical B series
films of the 1950 (that's why Nicolas Cage wears a snake skin jacket...). In
the classes that I follow in film studies, we dissected Wild at Heart and, by 
looking at video excerpts of the feature, we arrived to the conclusion that 
these allusions were wanted by Lynch. In fact they stand for the film on the
whole.

If theses facts are verified (I've never heart that Lynch told about these
references), then Lynch is as much a cerebral director than Burton. As Burton,
he packs his films with allusions (this time cinephilic ones) to covert 
complex meanings to his plots.

Personnaly, I like Burton films more than Lynch's. But we must admit that both
directors share exceptional qualities, one of which is that their movies are
complex and imaginative.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------/\/\artin Durand
Internet, Universite de Montreal
E-mail adresse: durandm@ere.umontreal.ca
Student, master's degree in film studies
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Student, master's degree in film studies
From: sheppard@warthog.nas.nasa.gov (Douglas R. Sheppard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Q on A Few Good Men: Poison???
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:40:49 GMT
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <1992Dec23.083855.372@news.uwyo.edu>, rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:
|> Something that really bothered me about this film was the "poison"
|> plot device.  Were these two marines toxicologists or something?
|> Where did they find this poison, or barring finding it, how did they
|> get it transported to the base? How did they know what minimum dosage
|> would be effective, etc.?
|> 
|> Not that this movie didn't have its share of problems, but this
|> "poison" thing was not addressed fully at the trial. 
|> 
|> Richard Travsky
|> Division of Information Technology     RTRAVSKY @ CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
|> University of Wyoming                  (307) 766 - 3663 / 3668

It was my impression that there was no 'poison', that the private who
died could have had a lung problem (or something like that).  Cruise
pointed this out in his questioning.

-d
From: treinen@dfki.uni-sb.de (Ralf Treinen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Citizen Kane question
Date: 23 Dec 1992 15:41:50 +0100
Organization: DFKI - German Research Center for AI
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Dec23.135849.28932@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:
|> ROSEBUD was Kane's sled!  It is not necessarily the key to the whole mystery.
|> It's ironic that the people in the film search for some clue to Kane's life and
|> last word. And it's ironic that his last word would be this image of his 
|> uncorrupted, innocent childhood.

And its also ironic, that actually noone could know about Kane's last word (since
he apparently was alone in his room when he died.)

Ralf.

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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: SHAKES THE CLOWN
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:35:02 GMT
Keywords: Shakes the Clown,Bobcat Goldthwait

In article <1992Dec28.032744.9957@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:
>In article <1992Dec27.182456.26474@edsi.plexus.COM> lon@edsi.plexus.COM (Lon Ponschock) writes:
>>
>>a twisted view of the life of a clown.  Sort of like
>>Emmet Kelly meets BARFLY.  These clowns have their own
>>hangout  called the Twisted Balloon at which they have
>>their drinks... in costume.  Performers such as Adam
>>(Opera Man) Sandler from _Saturday Night Live_ never
>>appear out of makeup.
>
>I'm not so sure that they are in costume. They *are* clowns.

Regarding Sandler, I'm curious as to what people's opinions
are about his performances in this movie and his SNL stuff.

GMS
From: jii@rhi.hi.is (Jon Ingi Ingimundarson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Siskel & Eberts Top 10 of 1992
Date: 1 Jan 93 14:45:29 GMT

In <9301010947.AA06788@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca> jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung) writes:

>Inevitably, this is going to have to be re-posted several times, so
>here's the first one.  :)


>SISKEL & EBERT'S LIST OF THE 10 BEST FILMS OF 1992
>==================================================

[ List of films ]


>theatre.  A film which I thought would make it was Reservoir Dogs,
>but it didn't even get a mention.

They both gave it a C+, so it's no wonder they didn't mention it.

>jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca      |  "It's better than bad,it's good!"
>                           |             - Log(tm) by Blammo!

jon ingi,
jii@rhi.hi.is
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Singer in "Newsies"
Date: 23 Dec 1992 02:58:20 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: usa
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Early in the film, while the newsies are heading off to work, they
encounter a group of nuns handing out food.

A single verse of the number in progress during this scene is sung
by a woman searching for her lost son (Patrick?).  Who is the singer?

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