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From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: Re: WLAF to be suspended for one year!
Date: 27 Sep 92 04:04:00 EDT

In article <1992Sep25.195534.2344@cbnews.cb.att.com>, nrc@cbnews.cb.att.com (N. Richard Caldwell) writes:
> From article <1992Sep25.144157.244@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>, by ccas27@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("A.J.Anderson"):
>> 
>>It would seem strange to trash the Ohio franchise, even though they had a poor 
>>record the attendance figures were among the best in the league. The UK 
>>American Football paper had an interview with some of the Ohio management 
>>team and they were really disapointed about the shut down and were determined 
>>to keep the franchise going if allowed. So unless the league actually forces 
>>them out of business I would expect the Glory to survive. 
> 
> Glad to hear that.  The media here (even in Columbus, Ohio) is so busy
> with NFL and NCAA football (not to mention the end of baseball season) 
> that they haven't said much about the WL situation.
> 
>>If any teams have to go it should
>>be Birmingham or San Antonio which had reasonable teams ( Birmingham made the
>>playoffs ) but still had lousy support.
> 
> I could live with that.  Please post if you hear any good rumors!  There 
> is an interest in the WL over here.  We're just worked into a lather over
> the NFL season right now!
> 
> 
> "Don't drive too slowly."                 Richard Caldwell
>                                           AT&T Network Systems
>                                           att!cbnews!nrc
>                                           nrc@cbnews.att.com


I have an Ohio Glory T-shirt I was wearing today, and as I was tridging
trudging the halls of the Chemistry Dept here a person said to me
'nice relic' (referring to my  Glory T-shirt). Maybe I can make
lots of money selling my shirt next century :)

BROWNS. BROWNS. DA BWORNS. BNWOSR, RBOWNS. WORNSB. OBRNSW. BWONSR. WBROSN.
NSORBW. BROWSN. DA. BROWNS. BROWNS. DA. BROWNS.

-Garrett


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From: mccray@crchh496.BNR.CA (Dale McCray)
Subject: Re: Bring on the Mammals (was Bring on the FISH)
Reply-To: mccray@crchh496.BNR.CA (Dale McCray)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 23:26:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.171023.13625@makesys.com>, john@makesys.com (John
Turman) writes:
|>
|>Evidently you don't have to have ever studied English grammer to be a Jills
|>fan. Nor do you have to know how to spell either. And I guess Biology wasn't
|>a part of his course load as well. Of course judging by most of the comments
|>made by Jills fans on the net this appears to be the norm rather than the
|>exception. d8~) added for the humor impaired.
|>

I agree that judging appears to be the norm rather than the exception.
Of course, judging by your knowledge of how to spell 'either,' you
could be a Jills fan of unusually more goodly wellness grammar skills.
;-)
From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys can kick Bills Butt
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:01:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <sy#pbt.gordons@netcom.com> gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
>Let me introduce you to a key on your keyboard: it's called the 'n' key,
>and it allows you to skip posts that you don't like.  Near as I can tell,
>none of us are here to provide *you* with entertainment.
>

  Then why are you here? Definitely not for rational discussion.  Actually,
  I don't have any more to say on this subject.  I just couldn't resist
  pointing out the double standard some people have shown around here.
  It's only ok to say someone is *best* if that someone plays on your 
  favorite team.  But if someone else does the same thing, alot of 
  hypersensitive people come out of the woodwork to cry and whine about
  their favorite team/players not getting enough respect.

  Ease up Gordo, be careful not to suck those toes down your throat.

- Rob Conticello

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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: LIONS update
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:01:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.221406.4355@bradley.bradley.edu> dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
>William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>
>>The Detroit News reported that Rodney Pete was injured in Sunday's game
>>with Tampa Bay,  and will likely miss this weekend's game with NO.  Kramer
>>will get the start if Pete does not play.  Also the lions are returning to
>>a stretch-type of offense,  to give Barry Sanders a break,  in hopes that
>>the threat of 4 receivers will make him more of the danger he was the last
>>few years.  This stretched offense will be unleashed on NO This weekend in
>>the Dome.
>
>Strange.  The Tampa Bay defense has zapped 3 of 4 starting quarterbacks so
>far this season, Rosenbach, Gannon, and Peete.  I don't recall if they
>injured any quarterbacks in Green Bay....

The D here has been teeing off pretty good on the QBs they face.  Just
like Coach Bugel said after the Rosenbach hit.  They are good,  clean,
shots.  Viscious, yes.  But, good, clean, hits.  Sports Illustrated is
carrying a piece on our Quick Defensive Tackle, "Sack-tana" Dotson. He
is well on the way to being the NFC Defensive Rookie of the year,  but
in my opinion, his running mate, Strong Defensive Tackle, rookie, Mark
Wheeler is the guy producing opportunities for everyone else. This guy
is a load.   They asked him to describe what it's like  playing on the
nose in the NFL  (Floyd's Strong Tackle plays over the Center), and he
says:   "It's like bein'  in a dark room,  full of people all throwin'
bottles at your head.  I really don't know why I love it."   Whew.  As
for Green Bay,  no,  no QBs got injured but half-time of that game may
have been the last time we'll get to see the Majik-man for a while.
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From: ksmoore@taco.engr.ucdavis.edu (Kevin S. Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Miami-Buffalo-San Fran
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:17:33 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

In article <1apb4mINNbe@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox) writes:
>
>In a previous article, rfedkiw@crenshaw.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) says:
>
>>As usual the Bills cut their own throats.... they did it last year
>Oh, give me a break!  Typical Duffalo response.  
>
>>Unfortunately Miami has a cake schedule and could go 13-3...
>And Duffalo has had an easy schedule till now.

I would hardly call SF in SF easy.  Especially in 34-31 game.
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (jon blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Just noticed something...
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:16:22 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (jon blixt)
Organization: Your Organization Goes Here

In article <bv-p_6l@lynx.unm.edu> jawebb@hydra.unm.edu (Furry Bunny Feet) writes:
>In article <BvEC77.D9K@acsu.buffalo.edu> v077mdph@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Snoopy) writes:
>>
>>Snoopy
>>CRUSH THE FISH!
>
>destroy the bills. rip kelly's fucking heart out.

Shouldn't that be CRUSH THE MAMMALS! 8^)
Kelly's gotta have a heart first. 8~)

-Jon

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From: pdietz@cse.unl.edu (Phillip Dietz)
Subject: Re: Steelers in the News
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:46:20 GMT

htilney@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>Has there been any talk in Pitt. about building the Steelers their own
>stadium? Three Rivers is still a good venue for the Pirates, but I'd
>love to see a more appropriately-sized stadium (on natural turf!) for
>football. I realize that with the newspaper strike in Pitt. there
>probably isn't much talk about things like this...

If they build a new stadioum it out to have a roof/dome.  This will tempt
the SuperBowl committee's and raise mega-bux during the Superbowls.

Actually I'd rather see Pitt. start a pro Basketball team rather than see a 
new (and not needed) stadium.  Then Pitt. could win every major sport 
(except rugby of course :-)

--
                                                              Phil Dietz
  "Phil is the man with the plan."                    pdietz@cse.unl.edu
                   -- Confucious 465 BC           University Of Nebraska
From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Can Bills go 16-0?
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1abms5INNkv3@phakt.usc.edu>, tehyang@phakt.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang) writes...
>I'm not a fanatical Bills fan, but looking at their schedule and how good
>they've been playing, doesn't anyone else think they might go undefeated?

I highly doubt it. Even if the Bills won their first 14 games, they'll
play New Orleans, then the Oilers to close out the season. One or both
of those games could be "throw away" games that the Bills will sacrifice
in the interest of keeping the starters healthy for the playoffs.

Marv Levy has clearly stated the goals of the team as: win the AFC East,
win home-field advantage, win each playoff game and win the SB. He has
said nothing about going undefeated in the regular season.

I guess we could postulate that if the Bills enter December undefeated,
perhaps the players and fans will pressure Levy into going for a 
perfect season. It *would* be something that no other team has done on
a 16 game schedule.


Doug


                                  |                              Doug Evans
                                  | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                  |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
From: jan10@cd.amdahl.com (jim Nimmer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Keith Millard
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:54:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Did Millard play against the Falcons?  If so did he have any
impact?

Thanks in advance.

Jim
From: marc@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Marc Goldman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Best Performance
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:45:04 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <1992Oct5.215427.596@seq.uncwil.edu> rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith) writes:

>Joe Montana:
>SB      Opponent          Att  Comp Pct. Yards  Avg.  TD   INT Rating
>-----   ----------------  ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ---- ---- ------
>XXIV    Denver              29   22 75.9   297 10.24    5    0  147.6
>
>Phil Simms:
>SB      Opponent          Att  Comp Pct. Yards  Avg.  TD   INT Rating
>-----   ----------------  ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ---- ---- ------
>XXI     Denver              25   22 88.0   268 10.72    3    0  150.9 

>Draw whatever conclusions you will...

My conlusions are that quaterbacks do rather well against Denver in
superbowl performances!

Marc
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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Regional programming
Organization: Clark University
Date: 2 OCT 92 02:18:16 GMT

Sports Illustrated's game of the week is Rams at 49ers. Huh??
I'm not even a NFC East fan, and I can't wait for Dallas at Philly.

But seriously, I was wondering if regional programming networks get
their schedules before the season starts. Is any of it based on how
entertaining (competitive) the matchups are supposed to be, or is it
all decided by geographical (proximity) considerations? 

I'm generally talking about the "third" game broadcast. given that 
the "first" is the local team (unless they're not close to sellout) and
the "second" is CBS' nationally-televised game. I live in Mass. and am
already getting tired of the Jets in the third game every week.

-				|   "Don't torture yourself, Gomez.
Bart "Webb" Tilney		|    That's my job."
Email: htilney@vax.clarku.edu	|    			- Morticia Addams
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Zimmer & 49ers fans
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:46:26 GMT

In article <seoPZCK00awMQ400QI@andrew.cmu.edu> Richard Paul Smolen <rs84+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Zimmer, you think you're flamemaster or something?

Listen, Richard (can I call you "dick"?  It seems appropo...), I let
a lot of drivel from dweebs like you go by.  If I took it upon myself
to fully flame you every time you said something stupid, I'd wear out
my keyboard every two weeks.  So, I'm selective and only go after the
really choice stuff on subjects of interest to me.  Confine your
stupidity to teams other than the Niners and I'll likely ignore you.

>You get an ego trip by posting shit like this?:

It's hardly an ego trip to exchange barbs with a twit like you.  As
my daddy taught me, "never wrestle with a pig -- you both get all
dirty, but the pig enjoys it."

>Or do you get a sick pleasure from seeing people waste their time (like
>I am right now) by responding to it?

Actually, I get a very healthy pleasure from returning the favor
to geeks like you that irritate me on the net.

>this is a FOOTBALL bboard, not a place for freshman geek flamewars.
>
>if you want respect on this board, you have to post insightful comments
>about the games.  if you want respect at all, you have to learn when to
>shut up.  

Hey, chump, it takes two or more to flamewar.  I only responded to
a truly suckful post that interpreted non-gushing analysis of the 
Niners as whining.  As far as "insightful comments" are concerned,
when do we get one from you?

>Hint:  Time to shut up, Zimmer

Hint:  spell other people's names correctly.  It's an easy way
to look a bit less like a pinhead, and you could use all the help
you can get there...

>Thank God all 49er fans are not like you.

Yep.  Most are more mature than I and simply ignore the puerile rantings
that come from your ilk.  How do you hit the spacebar without opposing
thumbs, anyway?

>Rich.
     -less.

>** To All :  lets give Zimmer the respect he deserves: As the old saying goes:
>
>(So, from now on,)  Just ignore it and it'll go away....

Gee, that was easy to get rid of you!


-- 
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SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, the Eagles have just left the building.
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:18:15 GMT

In article <ACESHIGH.92Oct6011136@raven.bu.edu> aceshigh@raven.bu.edu (Brian Hunter) writes:
>The proof is in the pudding.  The best team in the NFL scored 31 points
>tonight.
>
>			Brian,
>			Boston University,
>			College of Engineering
>
>GO EAGLES!

I enjoyed the Eagles win last night, but would you
Gang-Green fans please not start talking crap like the rest,
i.e., Bills &  Cowboys, about their team being the BEST!
Damn, at least wait if they win their conference and or make
it to the SB.  There are no definitive BEST teams at this
point of the season, based on 4/5 games. Please! 
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
  of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Bermanisms
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:54:05 GMT

hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>
>   Brad "Colonel" Muster "who did it in the Laboratory with a lead pipe"

I prefer: Brad "Colonel" Muster "with the football, in the endzone"

>Any other favorites?

Here's one of mine:  Todd "he's no Dan" Marinovich


--Gidi (go jim "machine gun" kelly)


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From: austin@cs.widener.edu (Jeff Austin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles Destroy Dallas !!!
Date: 6 Oct 1992 00:13:00 -0400
Organization: Widener University CS Department, Chester PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: shirley.cs.widener.edu

	Well, it wasn't the prettiest Eagle offensive display.  And, it wasn't
	a real close game.  Hell, most people will even say that the Cowboys
	self-destructed.  But you go ask any Philly-fan what they think and I
	bet the ear-to-ear grin just about tells the story!  Boy, it sure is a
	good view from high atop the NFC East.  Nah, make it the whole NFC for
	that matter.  Better yet, the whole NFL.  Anyway, it's always a real
	nice pleasure to see the birds put a nice ass-whipping on the Cowgirls.
	Enjoy your "1" in the loss column, Dallas.  Did ya really think you 
	could go 4-0 in the whole division?  No way, punks - this ain't no 
	sorry-ass Phoenix or New York team - you got stuffed by the Gang-Green
	defense.  Lick them wounds.

						Jeff

	Go E-A-G-L-E-S  !!!
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From:  ()
Subject: Re: Oilers sign receiver Slaughter
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:02:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.125256.17745@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>,
august@hlpdsk.jsc.nasa.gov (Ray August) wrote:
> : 
> : Houston may now have a suitable replacement for Drew Hill, who they lost
> : to Plan-B, and for whom Leonard Harris was starting.  Leonard Harris has
> : been steady, with 19 catches so far, but has not been much of a big play
> : threat.
> : --
> 
> 
> Yesssssssssss!!  I think the deal is for 2.2M in 2 years.  I didn't think
> it was going to happen because Houston teams have a history of not going
> after key players when they want more than $500/year.
> 
> 
	Pretty unbelievable - this morning's sports page was the best piece of
unexpected news I've seen in a while.
     For Houston fans that haven't seen much of Slaughter, he was one of 
Cleveland's greats over the last five years.  In their heyday, he came
through
often and on the big plays.  If he can play as well now as he did then,
he's
worth the money.
    Unfortunately, he's been pretty unhappy the last couple of years, and
he
hasn't seen the number of passes he'd like (sound familiar?).  I'm really
sorry to see the Browns lose him - they'll end up regretting it. If Web
still has the magic he had a couple of years ago, we're in great shape.
    Of course, bringing Web in (at over a million bucks a season) might 
again start all the grumbling amongst the Oiler players that we thought was
behind us...
From: tandrews@iastate.edu (Trenton A Andrews)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bring Back Instant Replay
Keywords: 49ers-Saints,Bad Calls, Suggestion
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:53:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: du139-21.tandrews.718051998
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

I like the idea of allowing the team to choose what plays they want to 
review.

I believe that it is very likely the instant replay will be back next year,
even though i havent seen to many wrong calls by the officials.
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Packer news
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  1 OCT 92 22:39:21    

Keith Millard is a Packer.  He signed today and will be available for 
the Falcons game.  The Packers changed to a 1-gap defense this year so 
he should be a good fit.  (Other posters on this net have said that 
the Vikings play a 1 gap while Seattle plays a 2-gap.)

As I predicted, Esera Tuaolo was waived to make room on the roster for 
Millard.  Too bad.  In the right situation I think Tuaolo could really 
contribute.  Plus he sings a great National Anthem.

Tom Neville, who can play both center and guard and was signed earlier 
this week, is 6-5 290 lbs.  He played with SF in 91 and for the Packers 
from 1986-88.  He's 31 years old.

Both Darrell Thompson and Tony Mandarich are eligible to come off the 
IR list.  Neither is expected to be activated for the Falcons game but 
Thompson looks ready.  Mandarich is still rebuilding his strength.  
Most of the time he's spent on IR so far has been used adjusting his 
medication.

James Campen's knee injury will not need surgery.  Holmgren says he 
expects him to be ready when the 4 week IR period is up.

JGH
From: greco@sun.lclark.edu (Peter Greco)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Sore losers (was "49ers/Saints")
Summary: Niners
Keywords: read before you post
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:36:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Sep30.193618.3968
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR


In a response to another post re: "Niners beat Aints, Refs", Mike Zimmers
wrote:

>I agree that the officiating sucked big time, but I wonder if those
>apparent but uncalled offsides were optical illusions on the TV viewer.
>Given that the Niners' linemen couldn't hear the snapcount, and that
>they can't watch the center as easily as a LB can, it's quite possible
>that the Aints' LBs were simply getting jumps on the ball faster than
>the Niners' line were.  To a TV viewer who can't really see the center,
>this would look like offsides, as the LB is across the line of scrimmage
>before you see the OL move.

In response to Mike's statement, buckley@cs.tulane.edu (James Buckley) writes:

> "optical illusions" ... ha ha ha ... gimme a break!  I find it interesting
> that the Niner's win and people (and I use that term loosely) are still
> whining about this and that.  (maybe this is fallout from the Bills game :-)
> I've heard of sore losers, but "sore winners"???  Oh well, till we meet
> again ...
>
> - Jim
> GO SAINTS!!!

I think it's laughable (not interesting, certainly) that one certain Aints
fan can't see through his rage at a deserved loss to know when he's way
off base in his criticism.  Mr. Zimmers was making a good point about why
the Aints *appeared* to be off-side...he indicates that they actually were
not offside at all.  It seems pretty obvious that at least one Aints fan
can look very close to home to see a good example of a sore loser.
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Packer news: Keith Millard
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:55:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: macc.1992Oct1.215620.14522
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

I just heard on the radio that the Packers are planning on signing 
Keith Millard.  First they want to make sure his knee is okay.

JGH
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