From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (JKF)
Subject: Re: Dedication points
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In article <1992Dec29.172012.14105@muddcs.claremont.edu> irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith) writes:
>Joel Furr (jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu) writes:
>> I see that adjudicator games are sent turn by turn to the editor of
>> Electronic Protocol
>
>I'm not sure that this is true; does Eric really receive reports from every
>single game played on all four Judges? Even just all EP games would be a
>pretty huge chunk; if so, I'm duly impressed.

I don't know.  I was missing the boat on exactly what EP _is_... whether
*all* games played on the adjudicator were covered by an EP aegis, or
what.  As Josh said below, apparently only those meeting standards are
covered.  I didn't know that, never having seen an issue of EP.

>> and thence to the "Boardman Number Custodian" -- who, according to the EP
>> House Rules file, keeps track of all Diplomacy games being played in the
>> world!  (Yes, I know he doesn't keep track of the game that seven people
>> are playing in their basement in Poughkeepsie.)
>
>Actually, if the seven people in Poughkeepsie sent the BNC their results, it
>might add it to its archives. Or does the BNC only track postal games? I've
>forgotten, and am too lazy to look it up right now; I will if no one wants
>to do my homework for me.

Who is the BNC?  Does he work for Avalon-Hill?  Does Avalon-Hill exercise 
any control over games played electronically using the Diplomacy name
other than permitting the maps to be sent out but not the rules?

>> I've never seen an issue of EP since I started reading r.g.diplomacy and
>> r.g.pbm, so I don't really know what happens with all that information.
>
>The phrase "issue of EP" is vaguely ambiguous, insofar as EP's Chapter Two
>has drifted away from being a Diplomacy 'zine (in the sense of a newsletter
>to report Diplomacy results), and nowadays looks more like a magazine about
>Diplomacy. I think that Eric Klien's Chapter One is still a Diplomacy 'zine
>in the traditional sense, though I'm not entirely sure. It also seems that
>Eric's long update list that he posts periodically a) isn't an issue of any
>Chapter of EP; b) hasn't been updated in a while.

Chapter One, Chapter Two, aaaaugh.  I'm lost in jargon again.  What *is* a
Diplomacy 'zine as opposed to a magazine about Diplomacy?  The 'zine would
just track games in progress?  How often is EP published?  I'd sure
appreciate anyone who has a copy archived sending it to me... if it's
published in rec.games.diplomacy and rec.games.pbm, my sites have expired
their copies.

>So, to try to summarize, The Electronic Protocol is a fairly disorganized
>organization that covers both Judge and non-Judge Diplomacy. It assigns
>reference numbers to games played on the Judge or via e-mail which request
>them and which meet its standards; it then keeps records of the end results
>of such games and generates a Hall of Fame based on those results. There are
>two publications related to EP, EP Chapter One and EP Chapter Two; Chapter
>One hasn't been published in a while, and Chapter Two is currently in
>transition and is trying to figure out what it's place in the world is.

So "EP Chapter Two" doesn't ever really appear as the second part of a
two-part post containing "EP Chapter One"?  I think part of my confusion
stems from the use of "EP" to mean

1) a loosely organized governing body that assigns reference numbers and 
   keeps a hall of fame
2) a magazine with two parts, one of which no longer gets published
3) a set of house rules used by Judge games

>I'm not sure how the BNC figures into this. I would guess that Eric or Nick
>could ship off results to BNC, but I don't know if they do. My impression is
>that the BNC is sort of like EP, but it includes postal (and possibly FTF)
>Diplomacy as well. I don't know if EP games get BNC reference numbers or
>not; such things do exist for postal games reported to BNC. I'm also still
>just figuring out what EP is myself, so if anyone has corrections to the
>above, please post 'em (or send me e-mail if you'd rather).

Yeah.  Please do.  I love games but am still trying to stretch my brain to
grasp all the electronic Diplomacy jargon and terminology.
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