From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: **** Australian citizens kidnapped by Malaysian Prince ****
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 12:20:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.103154.2308@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:

> I am still here. Why don't you swear some more. Let us see who are the
> fools.

And which words did I use to swear at you?  Please tell all!!!

> The Australian family court agreed that it was not a kidnap case, so it
> slapped warrent for arrest for contempt of court to Raja Baharin in absentia.

I think Raja Baharin has a warrant for contempt of court as he has broken a
custodial order.

When someone disobeys an access order by the Australian Family Court, they
are being contemptible to the order of that court.  Raja Baharin, by not
returning the children, is in contempt of an order of the court.

Just like refusing to give evidence when the court instructs you to, refusing
to obey an order from the court is contempt.

Sorry.  Wrong again.  Please try to engage brain before engaging mouth.
Instead of being so confrontationalist, why not ask people to explain
why something has happened.

Example:  Instead of accusing the Australian system of justice of being flawed
because of your claims above, ask people why Raja Baharin has a warrant for
arrest to do with contempt of court.

If you had asked, rather than jump to the conclusion that our justice system
is erred, you would have found out WHY Raja Baharin is alleged to be in
contempt of court.

> Usually contempt of court is only for people who are at court, and had been
> given warnings first.

And ask a journalist how they can be in contempt of court by reporting on a
court case.  They aren't "at court" or "in trial" or privy to "warnings".

> What a strange sense of justice.

Indeed!  Especially when you choose to accuse, rather than question, the
Australian justice system.

> Raja Baharin was in Indonesia. He could have used boats, for a rich prince,
> he should have used rented planes. He is reported to be an architect and one
> of the nephews of Sultan of Trengganu, not known to be rich. Sultan of Johor
> and Pahang are more aggressive and richer. He must be working for JKR, and I
> know how much he is paid, not much.

> Malaysian chief of police declared that the children would not be extradited
> because they are Malaysian citizens.

Hmm.  Malaysian police force is now dabbling in propaganda.  (note: Hey, if
you can jump to conclusions, so can I.  I of course will not question the
reasons why the police force think they are Malaysian citizens, but just
jump to the conclusion that the Malaysian police are propagandists and
and instrumentality of the Malaysian Government.  Not!)

Maybe the UN will have a much different perspective if they do intervene?

Rod
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