HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jmh@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Justin Heinecke - Sun NC Development Center)
Newsgroups: triangle.forsale
Subject: PS/1 for sale
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:08:27 GMT
Distribution: triangle
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Research Triangle Park, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: shimano.east.sun.com

IBM PS/1 for sale:
  80286 processor
  3.5" 1.44M floppy
  30M hard drive
  2400 baud internal modem
  2.6M ram installed
  internal VGA controller

  monitor, mouse, and keyboard included

  DOS5.0 installed
  MS Works, Prodigy software installed


    This is a great machine for home finance and pleasure.  The owner is
expanding a private business and needs to move to a larger machine.

  Best reasonable offer.  Shipping negotiable (if you're close enough, I'll
bring it over....)

  justin.heinecke@East.Sun.COM
     -or-
  Carol Siebert
  B-1 Village Green
  Elizabeth Street
  Chapel Hill NC 27514
Newsgroups: triangle.forsale
From: roman.yarish@rose.com (roman yarish)
Subject: Telescope Wanted
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Distribution: triangle
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:22:10 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-08-93 10:12

Wanted telescope: prefer "schmit-cassegrain" type 
something like the ones made by "Meade" or "Celestron"
however will consider others.

roman.yarish@rose.com
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Newsgroups: triangle.forsale
From: roman.yarish@rose.com (roman yarish)
Subject: Storage Oscilloscope
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Distribution: triangle
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:48:56 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-05-93 15:41

Trade oscilloscope H.P.7574a 100mhz storage type(case manuals filters)
   excellent condition. (have had current cash offers around $1200)
   
Things I'm looking for:
  Telescope - (Schmidt-Cassegrains type)
  I would prefer one made by "Meade" or "Celestron".
  
  Military communication equip.(h.f.)
  or ? 

roman.yarish@rose.com
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Newsgroups: triangle.forsale
From: jsnyder@rock.concert.net (Joseph J Snyder -- Graphic Data Inc)
Subject: OFFICE EQPT FOR SALE
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Distribution: triangle
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:21:14 GMT


     Panasonic NP-750 copier
          Reduces & enlarges
          Copies on up to 8.5 x 14 sheets.
          Uses replacable toner cartridges
	  Good condition - $400.

     Murata Mdl 750 personal fax machine
          Autoswitch feature
          Speed dial & more.  $225.

     Answering Machine 
          Two casette style
          Remote touch-tone message retrieval
          Toll-saver feature.  $25.

          Call or Come by to see:

               Joe Snyder   850-9866
       see:

               Joe Snyder   850-9866
               Prime Components, Inc.
               805 Spring Forest Road, Suite 800
               Raleigh, NC 27609

          (Next to ADIA personnel on Spring Forest Rd.)
From: fls@acpub.duke.edu (Forrest Smith)
Newsgroups: triangle.forsale
Subject: Re:  Land For Sale
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:40:21 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


	Someone last month posted a notice about land for sale between
Pittsboro and Sanford, I think, or somewhere in Chatham County.
	If this land is still available, please let me know.

fls@keynes.econ.duke.edu
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Sendmail Training Seminars in Austin
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:00:17 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX
Keywords: sendmail electronic mail MX records DNS IDA Ease sendmail.cf


[Robert Harker's obviously commercial advertisement deleted]


I thought blantantly commercial advertisement of products and services over
the 'net was supposed to be "frowned upon".

-- 
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Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
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Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.talk
Subject: Re: Smart-Ring (was: Caller-ID modem)
From: d_north@ondec.lonestar.org (David G. North, CCP)
Date: 6 Jan 93 07:49:13 CST
Followup-To: austin.talk,tx.general
Distribution: tx
Organization: onDEC systems, Dallas, TX

In article <1993Jan5.125854.16974@montagar.com>,
 davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes:
> 	And duplicating a service which can perform the same function, called
> "Smart-Ring"...  And you don't even have to buy a separate box to know if it
> is a friend or not!
Perhaps there are others, like myself, who would like a brief explanation
of this 'smart-ring'?

Thanks.
-- 
David G. North, CCP
d_north@ondec.lonestar.org {...!texsun!montagar!ondec!d_north}
onDEC systems                                 "Everyone's crazy but you & me...
P.O.Box 795848, Dallas TX  75379-5848          and come to think about it, I'm
(214)985-1316 ... (214)902-3957                not so sure about you either!"
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From: baffes@cs.utexas.edu (Paul Thomas Baffes)
Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general
Subject: Internet Access Question
Followup-To: poster
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:57:23 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: phobos.cs.utexas.edu

I'm a grad student at UT Austin, but I spend quite
a bit of time in Corpus Christi. I'm trying to
figure out a way to get access to internet that's
cheaper than a long distance call to UT. There
is a university down in Corpus (CCSU) but last
time I checked they did not have internet access.

If anyone has any suggestions, your help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.

(send email to baffes@cs.utexas.edu)
-Paul
Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.talk
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Distribution: tx
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:46:29 GMT

In article <C0IAnp.xpo@austin.ibm.com> johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti) writes:
>In article <QVTMV06@taronga.com>, peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>|> How could the phone company possibly know who's calling? The only verifiable
>|> information they have is the calling phone number.

>They know the name of the person who is responsible for paying the
>bills for that phone number.

So? The billing name and the number are exactly equivalent pieces of
information from the point of view of privacy violation. For that matter,
I'd rather give out my number than my name, since you don't even need
a reverse directory to get a number *and* address from a name.
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From: davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:58:53 CDT
Followup-To: austin.talk,tx.general
Distribution: tx
Organization: Montagar Software Concepts, Plano TX

In article <1993Jan05.040542.25904@chinacat.unicom.com>, chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal) writes:
> In article <1993Jan5.024908.17284@seas.smu.edu>
> 	doug@seas.smu.edu (Doug Davis) writes:
>>CLID is putting the power to choose who interrupts your life at
>>dinner time where it belongs.  
> ...for twice the price of an answering machine set in `screen' mode and
> at a fraction of the effectiveness.

	And duplicating a service which can perform the same function, called
"Smart-Ring"...  And you don't even have to buy a separate box to know if it
is a friend or not!

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David L. Cathey		                |INET: davidc@montagar.com
Montagar Software Concepts              |UUCP: ...!montagar!davidc
P. O. Box 260772, Plano TX  75026-0772  |Fone: (214)-618-2117
From: davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:09:33 CDT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Montagar Software Concepts, Plano TX

In article <OVTMFY5@taronga.com>, peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
> In article <1993Jan6.084254.16976@montagar.com> davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes:
>>	Then how about this for "Logic Police":  Just because business have
>>ANI for 800/900 service, does that require we make it available for all
>>businesses to have?
> 
> Because businesses can buy the ability to make up call lists, why shouldn't
> private individuals have the same ability?

	800 numbers business are paying the bill for your convenience, and your
calling them because you are or are intending to do business with them, and
are offering to pay the long-distance charges for you.  I don't think I've
*ever* been bothered by someone from a business from when I called their 800
number.  They know that if I want to call, I will, and it's free (to me).
When I call, I know that they will have my number, and can decide if I
trust them enough to do business with them.

	For 900 numbers, they have no reason to call you, since the whole
idea is for *YOU* to call *THEM* so they can make major cash per minute.

	Nothing prevents you from getting a 800/900 number if you find
CLID that important.  I think you can get a personal 700 number, which might
provide the same function (not sure, I haven't look into it yet).

	None of this prevents me from making up call lists.  Just buy the
Cole's Directory on CDROM (a reverse phone directory), and you're all set.
The Public Library generally has the book in the reference section, as well.
You can run a BBS, and require "phone confirmation" of the account.  They
type in their phone number, and your all set.  Right now, several businesses
ask for your phone number (which is not required) when you charge something.
You choose if you want to give it to them (although, they usually don't make
it obvious you have a choice).

	Currently, I have control over my phone number, which I pay for the
privilege of having.  I ought to be able to control who I hand it out to.
The default ought to be the number stays private *UNLESS* I agree first.
If they don't take blocked calls, I can then decide to unblock or not call
back.

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David L. Cathey		                |INET: davidc@montagar.com
Montagar Software Concepts              |UUCP: ...!montagar!davidc
P. O. Box 260772, Plano TX  75026-0772  |Fone: (214)-618-2117
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:03:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.040542.25904@chinacat.unicom.com> chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.024908.17284@seas.smu.edu>
>	doug@seas.smu.edu (Doug Davis) writes:
>>You guys do realize that ANI (Automatic Number Identification) is
>>available to almost anyone with an 800 number.  [...]

>This is a flawed analogy.

>Caller identity is *necessary* with 800 service.  If you are going to
>pay for calls received on your 800 number, you better well get an
>itemized detail of those charges.

And you get caller ID with a 900 number, whereas in Europe you don't
get itemized lists of even who *you* called. You're talking about flawed
analogies, and then come up with a complete non-sequiter.

Logic police, indeed. Part of what you're PAYING for with an 800 number is
that list of sales contacts, whether it's explicit or not.

And why on earth do you think this is Austin-specific?
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Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.talk
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:13:24 GMT

In article <C0GIpt.12LB@austin.ibm.com> linas@boardhead.austin.ibm.com writes:
>The point is the phone company COULD HAVE proposed a Caller ID scheme,
>and chose not to.

How could the phone company possibly know who's calling? The only verifiable
information they have is the calling phone number.
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Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general
From: doug@seas.smu.edu (Doug Davis)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:49:08 GMT


You guys do realize that ANI (Automatic Number Identification) is
available to almost anyone with an 800 number.  Even my "personal-800" on
house number provides a list of all the numbers that called it contained
with my bill.

The big kids have had this type of service for years, at one time (seems
about 3 years ago or so) american express was answering the phone by
customer name, they cut this out after spooking too many people.

CLID is putting the power to choose who interrupts your life at
dinner time where it belongs.  

Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.talk
From: linas@austin.ibm.com (Linas Vepstas)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Originator: linas@boardhead.austin.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:01:04 GMT
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: linas@boardhead.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Graphics Systems


In article <1993Jan6.154210.21259@seas.smu.edu>, doug@seas.smu.edu (Doug Davis) writes:
> >...for twice the price of an answering machine set in `screen' mode and
> >at a fraction of the effectiveness.
...
> I had a "black box" that would redirect calls from numbers not in a list
> to an answering machine. 
> 
> I might even have a "special" message reserved for certain numbers.

Hmmm... interesting idea ... but isn't the debate supposed to be about
"Caller ID" vs. "Calling Number ID"?   What if you are blocking an
emergency phone call from your wife/freind/lover/etc who finds
themselves marooned at a poorly lit phone both on east 12th St?
Unless you don't care about having to explain why you didn't answer that
call during deep space 9, its not a good idea.

The point is the phone company COULD HAVE proposed a Caller ID scheme,
and chose not to.  While Caller ID's benefit Joe Public, they are almost
totally useless (depending on the actual scheme proposed) to large
marketing organizations.  But Calling Number ID is great if you want to
do phone sales, keep track of pizza orders/catalogue shopper avg.
monthly outlay/ financial services transactions/ etc.  You don't NEED 
a black box to get these services to work.

> Oh yeah, shortly afterwards I'ed build another "black box" that would
> do the samething for my computer, but it would only raise DTR to
> the modem *IF* a call came from a known number.

Ohh I like that ... but Caller ID could have done the same thing, if
only it was offered by the telco.

--linas
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Newsgroups: tx.general
From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
Subject: Re: State Income Tax
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:12:07 GMT

In article <ZOmhs*ly1@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>Would YOU really want your kids to go to DC public schools?  Slick Willie is
>just as hypocritical on most of his positions - however, at least THIS one
>he has a valid reason to do so.

If I was the President of the United States?  I'd INSIST that my daughter
go to public school.  What message is he sending?  "My daughter is better
than all of those poor hapless souls that are forced to go to public
schools."

The public school system is broken, badly.  The solution is not to have
a two class system when the rich and privileged get one education and
the poor get another.  This is why I support a voucher system - let the
poor black kids in DC that are STUCK in public schools have a chance at
the same education that one rich white guy's daughter is going to get.
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [ PGP 2.1 ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
"If we make SS need based, can we change the name to: Failing Incompetents
    Compensation Allotment?"  -- Dr. Michael Reed
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID discussion
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:27:39 GMT
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin, TX. US of A.

In article <C0GqAo.MGu@sneaky.lonestar.org>, gordon@sneaky.lonestar.org (Gordon Burditt) writes:
|> 
|> Nobody's mentioned Call Trace, which logs the number of a specific
|> threatening call, and turns it over to the police.  I think it's offered
|> whereever Caller ID is, and maybe in some places where it isn't.  It 
|> would seem to handle perverts nicely, although it's a bit like using 
|> nuclear weapons on a mosquito if the problem is neighbor's kids making 
|> prank phone calls.

	There is a charge for having Call Trace and each time you use it,
	something like $2.50 and $5.00-$8.00 respectively. I agree though,
	that it is good for nuisance calls, yet they only turn them over to
	the Police IF requested, not automatically, and if there are two
	occurances from the same number.

	-dewey
	ps. I know for a FACT that this Call Trace works WELL.
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Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.talk
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
From: d_north@ondec.lonestar.org (David G. North, CCP)
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:32:03 CST
Distribution: tx
Organization: onDEC systems, Dallas, TX

In article <C0GIpt.12LB@austin.ibm.com>,
  linas@austin.ibm.com (Linas Vepstas) writes:
> Unless you don't care about having to explain why you didn't answer that
> call during deep space 9, its not a good idea.
I don't.  If they'll talk over the answering machine, I'll pick up...
besides, I want to put this all  on a computer anyway, and they'd be able
to dial in an override code - there are a thousand ways to get around that
type of issue.  Besides, I'd like the OPTION to have that problem!
-- 
David G. North, CCP
d_north@ondec.lonestar.org {...!texsun!montagar!ondec!d_north}
onDEC systems                                 "Everyone's crazy but you & me...
P.O.Box 795848, Dallas TX  75379-5848          and come to think about it, I'm
(214)985-1316 ... (214)902-3957                not so sure about you either!"
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From: mharriso@digi.lonestar.org (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: State Income Tax
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:19:29 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <ZOmhs*ly1@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.144352.9851@digi.lonestar.org>, Mark Harrison writes:
>
>> (still in a foul mood after hearing about Chelsea's school plans)
>
>Would YOU really want your kids to go to DC public schools?  Slick Willie is
>just as hypocritical on most of his positions - however, at least THIS one
>he has a valid reason to do so.
>
>
>                                                Jim Pritchett

What makes me mad is the fact that he is against school vouchers, which
would allow me to send my daughter to the school which I prefer, but
can't afford.  It's no problem for the Clintons... If you can write a
tuition check for $1000 every month, you have all the school choice you
need.

I respected Jimmy Carter's decision to send his daughter to the DC
public schools.  George Bush sent his kids to private schools, and he
supported a voucher plan that would have let lower income people do so
as well.
-- 
Mark Harrison, mharriso@dsccc.com
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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: State Income Tax (was Re: Establishing Texas Residency?)
Keywords: tax
Date: 6 Jan 1993 21:20:05 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <C0G8nC.CuJ@rice.edu> bro@antigone.cs.rice.edu (Douglas Monk) writes:
>... and don't you just love the way that the politicos threatened us with
>a state income tax unless we approved a state lottery, and some people
>actually *believed* them - and now they are softening us up to sock us
>with one anyway?

What leads you to this conclusion?

-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
      "Science is all in the public domain, and allows few secrets."
              -- Tom Clancy, _The Sum of All Fears_
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: drew@deathstar.dell.com (Drew Stephens)
Subject: Lotto
Summary: Lotto numbers
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:27:59 GMT

I'm interested to know if anyone has, or knows where to get a list
of all of the winning numbers for the Texas Lottery. I know most 
places that sell lotto tickets have the winning numbers for the last
several weeks, but I was hoping to find the numbers already "online"
somewhere. If you have or know of a list like this, please let me
know. 

THANKS!!!!

---

Drew Stephens
Dell Computer Corporation
drew_stephens@dell.com
From: mharriso@digi.lonestar.org (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: State Income Tax
Keywords: tax
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:43:52 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <C0G8nC.CuJ@rice.edu> bro@antigone.cs.rice.edu (Douglas Monk) writes:
>... and don't you just love the way that the politicos threatened us with
>a state income tax unless we approved a state lottery, and some people
>actually *believed* them - and now they are softening us up to sock us
>with one anyway?

It's OK, you don't have to worry about getting a state income tax.
Remember?  We agreed to paramutuel betting when they said "gambling
or income tax: take your choice."  So we're safe, aren't we?

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Mark.
(still in a foul mood after hearing about Chelsea's school plans)
-- 
Mark Harrison, mharriso@dsccc.com