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From: faith@wam.umd.edu (Jay)
Subject: Re: Need sick Oscar help.
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:17:43 GMT

In article <BtxJ4A.9Iz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jjz34245@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Wendell Gee) writes:
>Howdee all,
>
>I have a rather sick Oscar. He's 9 or 10 inches long, and has always been
>in relatively good health until the last month or so.
>
>He has always had a habit of jumping at the glass lid at feeding time, and
>therefore when he injured his head right above his eyes, I wasn't surprised.
>
>I bought some Marycyn (sp?) and all seemed well. Unfortunately, he stopped
>eating right after that.
>
>Soon thereafter, he started to show signs of greyish film, and then the last
>few days, eye cloud.  His tail fin has begun to rot away too.
>
>The wound on his head became soft, and began to spread to about 4 times its
>original size. It appears to be grey in color now, where it should be
>olive or orange colored.
>
>In short, he hasnt eaten in weeks, and the wounds/grey patches didnt heal
>at all.
>
>But he is still hanging in there.  What can I do to help him?
>
>Thanks,
>-Zim
>
malachite
Hello Zim,  
          One thing you need to be aware of is the chemicals you are putting in
your tank to cure your oscar might have "malachite green" in them. Instead of 
helping your fish,  you could be hurting him further.  Malachite is a form
of copper and high contents could be fatel.  Also,  if your putting in alot of
chemicals,  after a while you may need to do a partial water change.  By the
way I know some types of ick cures have malachite in them.

          Things to remember are 1) if you feed him pellet food and he doesn't
eat it right away, take it out..... he won't eat it (not now anyway). 2) when
treating, take the carbon out of the filter, it sucks your chemicals out. 3)
allways wash your hands before you put them into the tank.

       Just a few tips.  I hope it helps.         Jerome.
From: gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Wound on Purple Paradise Fish
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:43:58 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Aug27.110538@IASTATE.EDU> cjwhite@IASTATE.EDU (Carter J White) writes:
>	I got a pair of purple paradise fish about two weeks ago and the male has
>developed a sore near the tail (caudal) fin.  I've read in a few books that
>gouramies get these but no cures are given.  Has anyone had this problem and how
>did you cure the fish? 
First question.  What size tank are these in?  Contrarary to what the guy at
the pet shop may have assured you, these fish are just as agressive and 
terratorial as normal paradise fish.  If they are in anything smaller than a
20gallon (long) tank, I would bet that the sore is a wound caused by the
other fish.  Even male/female pairs are not immune to fighting.  If this is
the case, I would move one of the fish to another aquarium, or put both
in something like a 30g tank.  I do not remember how compatable they are
with fish of different species.  I would also suggest that you read up on
the habits/care of paradise fish in some sort of a good aquarium book.
						-- GDD
P.S. If it is a wound, separating the fish or moving them to larger quarters
(removing the source of the problem) should allow the fish to heal naturally.
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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: slappy@iastate.edu (Rodney G Zenner)
Subject: Re: Micron Fileter/Magnum 350
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:46:18 GMT


Using a micron cartrage for an extended period of time is stressful
on the motor.  I use a carbon retainer filled with biostars for my 
30 gallon.  The secret to filtration is, you know that you have
enough filtration when your fish are stuck on your intake pipes.
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: pst@cisco.com (Paul Traina)
Subject: Re: Aquaclear in Marine Aquarium
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:31:06 GMT

"Can I support life in a 75 gallon marine aquarium with a Aquaclear
 300?"

[this is all my opinion, your milage may vary]

Yes,  but don't.

Starting a marine fish aquarium is not for the light of cash (or
heart).  If you're really serious, price out everything first.

An Aquaclear 300, or any simple mechanical filter is indeed enough to
sustain life in a tank.  The real problem is: "How much life."

Are you using crushed coral as a substrate material?

Are you having the aquaclear run as purely a bio-mechanical filter, or
are you using carbon too? (ick)

How often do you intend to do water changes? (remember, commercial
preparations for H20 are expensive)

How often do you groom (vacuum) your substrate?

A small filter with a relatively small biomass like the the one you
are talking about is -not- going to support much life.  If you have a
75 gallon tank, you're going to be tempted to put more than 3 or 4
blue damsel's in it.

Instead, take the 29 along with you and start out small.  That's a
nice size for a new victim, uh, beginner to try out.  The H2O will
cost less, you'll be less tempted to overstock, etc. etc. etc.

However, if I were you -- I think I'd add a UGF to your 300 filtration
setup.  Get an exteral sponge prefilter for the 300 (there is a tetra
thing you can rip apart and stuff on the input line) and go for pure
biomass filtration.  If you later on run into more cash, get a pair of
reverse flow powerheads and convert the UGF into a RUGF.

Good luck.

-- 
"If life were fair, the acquisition of a large bosom or a massive inheritance
 would have no bearing on your ability to attract the opposite sex, and Dan
 Quayle would be making a living asking runny-nosed children, `Do you want
 fries with that?'"     -- John Cleese, "Corporate Computing" magazine
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: jsawyer@crash.cts.com (John Sawyer)
Subject: [F] Does the NITREX box really work?
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: alt.aquaria
Date: 24 Aug 92 23:08:06 PDT

	I keep seeing the NITREX products in the local shops.  Does
it work?? If so how well...
	Thanks!!
	jsawyer@crash.cts.com


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From: rivan@bnr.ca (Robert Ivan)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: What type of heat problems are people experiencing?
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:21:50 GMT
Reply-To: rivan@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research Ltd.


   As the title says I have a question concerning changes in 
temperatures people experience with thier tanks.  This came
about because a friend of mine and I are both experiencing 
heat problems durring the day, and especially when lights come
on.  Besides what were going to  , i am wondering how much of a problem
this is.

  Most aqaurim books state that its better to get bigger tanks
because fluctuation such as heat will be minimised.  But when 
you think about it the bigger the tank, the more insane the person has
become and so has the number of devices such as pumps and greater 
lighting that all contribute heat.


So I havve come up with a few questions as sort of an
informal survey.  Im no professional at stats so I'll
do my best to see if i can find any correlations.  
I will post a summary of what i get.  You can
either email me or just post.



1) The big one : what type of raise in temperature so you
                 experience and in how short a time.


2) what size  of tank do you have and what is the total volume
   of your system.

3)  marine or fresh water

4) what type of lighting and total wattage and is it fan cooled

5) depth of your tank

6) What type of pump do use - and powerheads in use.

7) Wattage of your heater.

8) What do you do to keep the heat down - and what do you feel is the
   major contributer of this heat.

9)If you have really gone off the deep end and have a chiller what
  type is it.

  
  Just a quick summary of the above will be fine. 

THANX
 Rob the inquisative.
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: russell@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (David Russell, CAD Lab,268-3997,265-1000)
Subject: Re: Re^2: Some questions...
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:10:49 GMT

From article <4071@novavax.UUCP>, by vest@novavax.UUCP (Steven Vest):
> 
> <Questions on what to buy for a first aquarium deleted>
> 
> Ross:
> 
>   <Text of advice deleted>

  I agree with Steven's advice. Start simple and work into it. I
started with a very basic 30 US gal. tank. (I think it was $150 for
the tank, hood, light, heater, and a Whisper II, just the basics.)
Now that I think back, I probably should have started with a 20 gal.
and almost quit the hobby. Then I started really paying attention to
what I was doing and the fish that were available, (I spent a LOT of
time hanging out in fish stores :=) Now I am a Cichlidiot, with a
complete 70 gal. setup, and I read this group every day just soaking
up the info. This way when I move, I will start fresh and do things
'right'. The past 5 years have been a learning experience and I am
still learning.

   Start small, so you don't burn out, then move on to bigger and
better things at your own pace.

Good Luck Ross, and all newbies.

--
David M. Russell, Mechanical Eng. Dept.
Clarkson University, Potsdam, NY 13676
(315) 268-9806 
russell@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: Igor Livshits <igorl@uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Hair Algae
X-Xxdate: Fri, 4 Sep 92 16:50:30 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Organization: NCSA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:53:14 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CCEFF6FF0114C6@spiff.ncsa.uiuc.edu>

I had the same problem which was wonderfully solved by grazers.  Urchins
are best, some Turbo snails will help.  A blenny or a tang or an
angelfish will eat it.  Hermit crabs will also eat hair algae, but I have
had trouble keeping hermit crabs -- my last oned not survive the molt
after thirving for several months in the tank.

Igor
From: mstephens.520@postman.gsfc.nasa.gov (mark stephens)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: filter recomendation for large? goldfish tank
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:09:11 GMT
Organization: nasa/gsfc

Way back in late 1991, when I first discover da Net, there was a thread about
removing waste from tanks.  Most filters such as the Whispers and Eheim canisters
of the world trap the waste but then filter the water right thru it.  Like
UGFs, they too become "nitrate pumps" in time.  What one really wants to do is
REMOVE the waste from the system and minimize the amount of water perculating
thru it.  Canister filters are great but I've seen what amounts to very large
trickle filters which have tank water (dirty side) flowing thru a screen with
some fluff to trap the gunk.  In one system, for Discus, the fluff was changed
every day.  In both systems, a common kitchen strainer was used and it was just
dumped out in the trash when needed.  Very primiative but very effectively simple.

With gold fish, it becomes even more emparative to "get the gunk out".  The Eheim
2217 is fine but it's gona need lifting and cleaning frequently (depends on 
load, of course).   So I guess I'm suggesting a sump or trickle filter.  Note 
I don't have experience with these (I sure want to).
 

                   mark


In article <1992Aug25.181657.2486@news.duc.auburn.edu>, kevins@eng.auburn.edu (Kevin Sullivan) writes:
> 
> I sent this request to Robert Enenkel, but he's busy at a koi show (lucky!)
> So hopefully someone else can offer their advice.
> 
> I have four 6" (not including tail) goldfish in a 30 long with a Whisper III 

                 [...]

> The question: would you suggest an Eheim 2217 (with the prefilter) or an 
> Aquaclear 500 (or something else) to go on the 30 long now and then to the 
> 75 later?  If it's the Eheim, what should I pack it with?  I've built 
> several filters, if that's the way to go, so don't hesitate to suggest a 
> custom job.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin Sullivan
> 
> 
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: howardr@col.hp.com (Howard Rebel)
Subject: Re: Micron Fileter/Magnum 350
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:09:20 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

In article <1992Aug28.154106.14028@uwm.edu> drallen@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Derek R Allen) writes:
>I just bought a Magnum 350 cannister filter and have a question for you all.
>...
>a standard carbon filter.  The question is: 'Which of these two filter
>options should I set up?'  I have not turned it on yet because i thought
>i'd ask here first.  The penguin provides charcoal filtration so I am
>not sure whether more would be superfluous.  Further, I'm not sure
>whether running the micron filter only is a great idea. help, please!

I am not a marine expert. But I would use the carbon filter wrapped with 
a layer of bonded filter floss to pump water under your undergravel filter 
to form a RFUGF.  
-- 
Howard Rebel hpcsos.col.hp.com
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: What type of heat problems are people experiencing?
From: selig@sysjj.mdcbbs.com
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:20:40 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas M&E, Cypress CA
Nntp-Posting-User: selig

> 1) The big one : what type of raise in temperature so you
>                  experience and in how short a time.
> 
          I live in Long Beach, California.  During a summer heat
          wave, the temperature in the tank can go from ~75 to ~88.
> 
> 2) what size  of tank do you have and what is the total volume
>    of your system.

          It's a 55 gallon show tank, 4 feet long.  About 8 inches on
          one end is compartmentalized for the "wet-dry" filter.
> 
> 3)  marine or fresh water
> 
          Marine

> 4) what type of lighting and total wattage and is it fan cooled
> 
          Three full spectrum fluorescents

> 5) depth of your tank
> 
          I don't know

> 6) What type of pump do use - and powerheads in use.

          The Fluval and the submersible that I described yesterday.
> 
> 7) Wattage of your heater.
> 
          I don't know.  It's that standard green-colored cylinder.

> 8) What do you do to keep the heat down - and what do you feel is the
>    major contributer of this heat.
> 
          I take the lid off the cabinent that holds the tank.  This
          summer I moved the lights up about 4 inches.

          I have never had a loss due to a heat wave.  I know the
          books tell us that temperature fluctuations are dangerous
          for the fish but when I snorkle or dive, I feel the drastic
          temperature changes of the thermocline yet I don't see any
          fish die.

          Dan
From: scottsc@polari.online.com
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Green Algae--How To Stop It?
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:59:45 GMT
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944


	Hey-Ho! My family setup a FW community tank this last spring. After
a couple of problems (for example, every guppy died mysteriously) the tank
stabilized and it has performed swimmingly since thin (sorry!).

	My problem is that, with the extended summer sunlight hours, the
tank has developed a bad case of green algae. The fish don't mind but it 
makes the tank difficult to view. When water changes and closing the shades
didn't do it, I broke down and bought an algae killer despite my fears of
upsetting the balance. After two doses of the algae killer, the tank appears
unchanged.

	Any advice? I haven't got a second tank so I can't do a complete
water change without risking exposure of the fish to an unstable environment.
Newsgroups: alt.lang.asm
From: marc@vieta.math.uni-sb.de (Marc Conrad)
Subject: Re: What is intercal?
Organization: U of Saarbruecken, Dept. of Computational Linguistics
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:02:31 GMT
Keywords: intercal query

adam@owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:

>In article <1992Sep3.095422.22537@hellgate.utah.edu> matwood%cascades.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood) writes:
>>Does anyone read this newsgroup?

>No.
I don't either.

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Newsgroups: alt.lang.intercal
From: matwood%cascades.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
Subject: What is intercal?
Date: 3 Sep 92 09:54:21 MDT
Keywords: intercal query
Organization: University of Utah


What is intercal?  I've heard a little bit about it from the
Hacker's Distionary.

Does anyone read this newsgroup?

---
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matwood@peruvian.utah.edu :: All who understand, I smile with you.
The University has enough problems without being blamed for mine.
Newsgroups: alt.lang.intercal
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Subject: Re: What is intercal?
Keywords: intercal query
Organization: Paoli Research Center - Paoli, PA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:32:07 GMT

In article <marc.715622551@vieta.math.uni-sb.de> marc@vieta.math.uni-sb.de (Marc Conrad) writes:
>adam@owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep3.095422.22537@hellgate.utah.edu> matwood%cascades.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood) writes:
>>>Does anyone read this newsgroup?
>
>>No.
>I don't either.

Me neither.


-- 
And the President put his hand on my shoulder and said: "Dan, 
I _knew_ Spiro Agnew.  He was a friend of mine.  And Dan...  
You're no Spiro Agnew!"
                -- Vice President Dan Quayle pwd
From: adam@owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.intercal
Subject: Re: What is intercal?
Keywords: intercal query
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:39:14 GMT
Organization: Milo's Meadow

In article <1992Sep3.095422.22537@hellgate.utah.edu> matwood%cascades.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood) writes:
>Does anyone read this newsgroup?

No.
-- 
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 something." -- Robert Penn Warren | Vote Cthulhu in '92! | adam@rice.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.lang.intercal
From: xexeo@dxcern.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo)
Subject: Re: What is intercal?
Keywords: intercal query
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:43:54 GMT

Intercal is the language to kill all languages. If you can program in 
Intercal you will be fired and put in a black list. No one will ever more
allow you to access any computer but Eric, which will give you just an
intercal compiler to work.

Then if you can build a compiler for another useful language in Intercal,
turing police will put you in a hospital for mentally disabled people. 

One of the most important features of Intercal is COME FROM, but you 
can read about it in the TNHD.

. Theoretician which are unhapy with the io system of Intercal recently devised
an incredible diselegant algorithm to allow ASCII output.

         Jerry

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Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: pharris@roseworthy.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Harris)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: Quickbasic/Qbasic
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:00:02 GMT

In <cos.714523600@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ofer Inbar) writes:

>pharris@roseworthy.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Harris) writes:
>>If QBASIC is a cut down QuickBASIC why does QB read GWBASIC files but not
>>QuickBASIC Files?

>GWBASIC, QBASIC, QuickBASIC, and PDS, all can read and write ASCII
>files.  As can most word processors and text editors.  Use ASCII for
>all your programs and you're safe.  As far as language compatibility
>goes, neither QBASIC nor QuickBASIC will be able to run all GWBASIC
>programs, but QuickBASIC should be able to run all QBASIC programs.

I have no problem with ASCII files, most of my GWBASIC programs are noe
compiled via QuickBasic. It just puzzles me that you have to deliberately
use Text files for two 'look alike' products, from the same company mind
you, while a much different product is compatable with the later(?)
offering.

Regards, Paul
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Jeff Foy)
Subject: ProBAS inquiry and CRC-32 code?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:46:33 GMT

Two questions:

1) What is your opinion of the ProBas add-on library? 

   I found it to be rather large and a pain in the rear to install. Since
my XT isn't the fastest system on the planet, it took well over two hours
to install. I do like the library though. It has routines I never even
thought about until now. (GUI's in BASIC? What a trip!)

2) Does ANYONE have a *fast* CRC-32 routine that I can use from BASIC?

   The FileCRC routine in ProBas does what I want (CRC-32) but it is very
VERY slow. It takes a good minute to 90 seconds to calculate the CRC of
a modestly-sized file (20k or so). I suspect that is because of it being
written in BASIC.

2a) If you do, where can I obtain it?  ;)

Jeff

-- 
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                       foysys!jeffery@cs.washington.edu
             *** FREE BILL & KATHY SWAN ***
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Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: boutell@cshl.org (Tom Boutell)
Subject: Re: QB5.0 wish list {Was: Re: 16 bit INP/OUT ...}
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Labs
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:52:42 GMT

In article <Bu21uG.CCr@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca writes:
>
>and 
>	- support for pointer. That is a must.

	Actually I'd rather *not* see pointers in BASIC. As a person who codes
	all the time in C and likes it, I nonetheless like the purity of
	BASIC's call - by - reference, no - pointers syntax. Call by reference
	provides power enough at the scale BASIC is intended to work. (Indeed,
	it covers most of the normal uses of pointers.) Yes, I know a heap would
	be handy, but the language also has variable length strings, another
	common reason for pointer usage... I'd say it would be a mistake.

>	- array inside structure (only available in PBDS7.1)

	Agreed. It's a very nice touch. I'm also tempted to ask for anonymous unions,
	but they might be more trouble than they're worth.

	I'm told there's a shareware BASIC compiler out there. Perhaps if we 
	supported that author we might get the features we're asking for.

	Some of these features may well be in Power BASIC already, come to think 
	of it. Anyone know?

>	- conditionnal compilation like in C

	Ah, the eternal #ifdef. The problem here, with both conditional compilation
	and macros, is that they're somewhat at odds with the threaded -
	interpreter environment. Not saying it's impossible, but doing them inside
	that environment would, I suspect, be very tricky indeed.

	However, it's quite easy to write your own preprocessor, if you're willing
	not to use the environment.

>	- Some sort of Object Oriented feature

	Not a bad idea. Visual BASIC is already moving in this direction. But
	you can write very object - oriented code with the existing user - defined
	types and a strong naming convention, again thanks to the wonders of
	call by reference.


-- 
Tom Boutell, boutell@cshl.org

Clausthaler is the best non - alcoholic beer in the known universe.
From: adye@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Alan Dye)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:48:17 GMT
Subject: Object Oriented Basic?
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID