From: rerhk@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Roko Kim 2-4224)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Open letter to GMT (re: Chinese questions)
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:12:48 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School

Open Letter to Grand Master Tong (1) -----------------------

Dear Grand Master Tong,

     Let me introduce myself.  I am a Korean doctoral student in
Harvard School of Public Health.  I was following up a series of
correspondences between you and others in this newsgroup.  Now, I
cannot help writing you openly as I see your quite inappropriate
behavior.  I feel a kind of responsibility for world-wide netters
subscribing s.c.k. 
     First of all, I really like Chinese people.  And as far as I
know, average Koreans (I adopted 'average Koreans' from your
article for our communication, as you know, though I don't like
such a subjective word at all.) also do so.  I even have a respect
on the long history and culture of China.  I have read many Chinese
philosophical writings, poems, and novels, e.g., writings of
Confucius, Chang'ja, Rho'ja etc., poems of'Tu'fo', 'Lee', etc.,
novels like 'Story of Three Countries', 'Story of Travelling
Western Land', 'Story of Heroes'. since when I was a kid.  What was
my idea about 'average' Chinese?   CHINESE ARE REALLY GREAT PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD! Period.   I think only fools can deny Chinese
leadership in Asian history and culture until 19th century.  Yes!
Chinese have led Asian culture for more than a thousand years!  And
I believe that China will do so again in the next century.  My advisor 
professor is a Chinese-American, and I really like and respect him 
more than any other teacher I have ever met.  Not only Chinese but 
also Japanese I like.  I personally have a good acquaintance with 
Japanese, Chinese, Thai students at my School here.  As you can see, 
I love Asian people for many reasons.  I am sorry I don't have enough 
space and time to list all the virtues of Asian people in this letter.           
    Can you imagine what my feeling was like when I first read
your provocative 'Chinese Questions' series (including 
'F*ck you *ssh*l*')?  What part of your questions were provocative you ask me?  
OK. I will show a few examples from your huge writings.  

>  Why do Koreans have so much pride in themselves and in their countries, 
>  compared to the chinese or americans?

Is that a real 'humble' (you said that you asked humbly) question do you think?
Anybody can tell the difference between this why questions and plain question 
that 'Do Koreans h s m p i t a i t c c t others or not?   When someone
reads this sentence, it deliberately (though you will say it UNintentional
consequence) conveys a hidden meaning that 'Koreans have false pride 
as compared to Chinese or Americans that they are dangerous'. That is 
why I say your questions were 'provocative.  Am I too sensitive?   O boy,
adults can read between the lines.  Don't try to fool me and my friends at all. 
Anyway, how did you compare Koreans, Chinese and Americans?  If there is 
any objective data supporting that, please let me know.  Tell me the 
difference of your method from the way used for Jews by Nazis.  I am afraid
if your way is what we call the prejudice of racist.  Suppose your hypothesis 
were right, anyhow, does it make you so uncomfortable that you asked why?
What's wrong with you?  Is it your hobby to provoke others?  

Actually I personally don't take much pride in Koreans nor in my country 
(Sorry for that, KCIA...), because they have little to take pride in.  They 
are very much smaller than China (and even divided since 1945), and they are
not so rich as Japan. You may have enough reasons to laugh at Koreans. (Now are
you happy to hear that?)   But I love my people and my country more than 
my life because they have little to take pride in.  I can choose death for my
people and my country if necessary (Is it funny and silly for you cosmopolitan 
to hear that?).  However old and sick your parents may be, you will love
your parents who gave birth to you.  However deaf and dumb your kids may be, 
you will not give them up.  Is it something to be asked why and why again? 

>  How much do the Koreans hate/like/respect/dis-respect the Chinese?

How much do you hate/like/respect/dis-respect the Koreans?  How will you feel 
if I asked just like above?  Do you think it a humble question?   Do you 
think it a reasonable question at least?  If not, think what will happen when 
the same question was asked to anonymous race?  If yes please answer to that 
stupid question and post here.    
 
>  If Koreans hate Japanese because of sibling revalry, does that mean they are
>  struggling to gain the favor of their mother China?

You arbitrarily manipulated other's article again for the purpose of confusing
Japanese bystanders.  How cunning you are!   As you insisted that you are 
really unaware of Asian countries, a kind Korean responder tried to 
explained you the complicated relationship between Korea and Japan.  Everybody 
will understand 'sibling rivalry' as a complex phenomena of love and hatred, 
however, more love than hatred.  Partially, I agree with that. 
He rightly pointed out it is wrong to simplify the relationship. 
You see how you manipulated his sincere answer.  'If Koreans hate Japanese 
because of sibling rivalry..'  Was this another unintentional misunderstanding?  
OK, then what is the meaning of 'mother China'?  Was that another UNintentional
miswriting?  Once again I ask you.  Is it your hobby to provoke others with 
impulsive writing?  

>  Please be more logical and clear - headed when you answer my questions.

O boy, Grand Master is preaching now?  How logical and clear-headed his
'questions' are?   You are writing this only to throw mud to others by meaning 
'You Stupid!'.  Is that really a humble inquirer's word?

> But the average Korean Citizen in the inner Cities of Korea is willing and
>ever ready to wield UZI's; that is another thing altogether.
>I do not observe such things/acts from the Taiwanese or Thai

YOU ARE A LIAR! YOU ARE A LIAR! YOU ARE A LIAR!  ABSOLUTELY, YOU ARE A
LIAR! 
Actually most Koreans, including me, don't understand the meaning of UZI. 
Perhaps it may mean a machine gun, right?    
You definitely wrote a lie saying 'the average Korean Citizen in the inner 
Cities of Korea is willing and ever ready to wield UZI's'.  In Korea, any 
citizen cannot keep even a shotgun.  If the scene you have seen in TV was
about LA.  From when South Central LA became one of the inner cities of Korea?  
From when Korea occupied US? From when average Korean Citizen became so rich to
open a supermarket in LA? What? Were they willing and ever ready to wield UZI?
DO NOT DISTORT THE TRUTH.       Everybody knows what happened in LA just before
shopkeepers organized themselves to protect their life and property.  Don't 
laugh at other's tragedy any more please.   When I heard about LA riot, I felt 
a deep empathy to Afro-Americans who didn't have any other choice except violent
demonstration.  I really applauded them for their fighting for their civil 
right (Sorry for that, CIA..). And I felt a deep anger against the US racists 
who declared innocence for the violent cops (Sorry for that, LAPD..).  What are
you saying?  Were Koreans willing and ever ready to wield UZI?  Oh, no more 
victimize minorities to avoid tackling Dinosaur.   Dinosaur, US government is
to blame for Afro-American tragedy.  DO NOT DISTORT THE TRUTH.  If you cannot
follow my logic, please read 'letters from the prison' of Dr. King or 
'autobiography of Malcolm X'.

If the scene you have seen in TV was about Kwang-ju Democracy Movement, 
I really feel deep angry against you.  I was borne in Kwang-ju city.  
O, tears fell when I remember Kwang-ju city in May 17th, 1980.  
Young students and citizens organized themselves as citizen's army 
against brutal military coup d'etat, when many students and citizens 
were killed by swords and M-16's.  More than 200 people
were killed by brutal military dictator.  At last Kwang-ju citizens won against 
the dictator Cheon, when he was sent to a temple in 1989 after the success of 
People's Movement in 1987.  Don't laugh at other's tragedy any more please.  If
it was not your intention to do that, go to the public library and find 
'Kwang-ju Democratic Movement' in modern Korean history book, or Britannica, or 
study about the May Fourth Movement of China in 1919, and be aware of what you 
meant by confusing Koreans and Chinese. 

>I did not say:
>The average Korean has an Uzi

NO MORE LIE, PLEASE.  I just have read your lie saying 'the average Korean 
Citizen in the inner Cities of Korea is willing and ever ready to wield UZI's'.
What is the difference between the two for you. In an old Chinese philosopher's 
writings, there is a very famous proverb as follows.  It would be a very silly
logic if a soldier, who ran away 50 steps from the front-line violating 
commander of superior, tries to prove difference between 50 steps and 100 steps. 
Both are not different in the sense of disobedience of command (Now, Can you 
understand why I admire the wisdom of those Chinese philosophers?). 
Both sentences you are comparing are same for Koreans as they are lies.
 
In any case, now I think I can guess why you suddenly changed your example 
from LA to inner cities in Korea.  
Because you told a lie before, you needed another lie to justify previous one.
When a Korean responder guessed you to be a Chinese from your subject title 
'Chinese Questions', he was talking about your racial identity.  
You answered that you were not a Chinese.  And said nothing about your 
Chinese-blood at that time. 
 It was until another responder found a clue proving your racial identity 
that you admitted your race.  To deny that you are a Chinese as a race, 
though you have Chinese parents, you adopted the concept of nationality 
in place of race.  
If you logically followed your definitions, 
you should have said you were a Chinese by race and non-Chinese 
by nationality. Instead you denied to be a Chinese both in race and 
in nationality adopting 'denial of Chinese heritage'.   As I cannot be
a Chinese at my will, you cannot be a non-Chinese at your will. 
By your definition, you were caught by a dilemma that those Korean-Americans 
who were seen in TV became non-Koreans any more according to your definition.
Therefore you invented average Korean Citizen (i.e. by nationality) who were 
willing and ever ready to wield UZI's, a pure red lie.

If you simply should had told the truth at the first time, 
it could have been nothing whether you were a Chinese or
not.  You could have been an exceptional Chinese who was borne and grown 
in Ghana.  But it was you, misled by fraudulent joy of fooling others, 
who made that really important by telling a lie.  However you deliberately 
may disguise your racial identity by a distorted logic, nobody will follow 
your way. As a Chinese netter kindly and tenderly advised, please feel free to 
learn about great tradition of Chinese history. 
Chinese are really great people!  I respect Chinese heritage. 

>>Are all Chinese guys not able to write their name?

>I am not Chinese, thank you very much; I would not mind being one though.
>I find your language very insulting to the Chinese, and I make this
>statement as an outsider. 
>How many Chinese signatures have you seen; that should not prompt you to make 
>such a irresponsible and (again) ILLOGICAL generalization.

(note by Rokho Kim; All above 6 lines were actually written by MT.)
Here, you should be accused of fooling world-wide netters.  You wrote a dirty 
sentence and concealed it as if it were in a Korean's article.  Was that another 
UNintentional writing to put > at the beginning of your own sentence?  O, no, 
you intended to cheat others and make Koreans and Chinese quarrel each other!
If so, you accomplished your purpose.  A busy Chinese bystander was 
misled by your dirty creature, and got angry on the language 'insulting to 
the Chinese', and became your part by writing,  

  > hi, there, there is nothing to be shamed of been a chinese. As a mainlander
  > I accidently rushed into this group and stucked by the topic, but I still
  > won't think anything wrong to be linked with chinese or their culture, even
  > if someone try to insult chinese here.

and insult Koreans by writing,
 
  > I guess you should get the answer that how polite
  > and gental Korean are(At least people in this group, if not all).

and seed conflict between Asian races by writing,
  > You may post same question to scc and pretend yourself as Korean, see how
  > netters answer you if you like. It will be a very interesting compaison.

That 'someone' who insulted Chinese were you!  You throw a stone to Chinese 
netters and informed angry Chinese that a certain Korean guy did it.  
How cunning you are!  You are really a Grand Master of Cheating!
You are just like a spider waiting a victim to be caught around its spider-web. 
There should be a public hearing on your unethical manipulations 
in the network, and if you were proved to be guilty of manipulating news, 
you should be expelled from this high-morale-requiring net jobs.
Silent bystanders should not oversee this kind of unethical behavior,
because one can be another victim just like a butterfly caught by a spider-web.

I think above examples are enough to prove which part of your words were 
provoking, not only for Koreans but also Chinese.  Not enough?

OK, How about this?

>Fuck you asshole

If my memory is correct, that was the only line in your post.
Thank you.  I learned another American slang from you.
Not enough?

After you were identified by name by Mr. Ham, 
you wrote,
 
>To you, Mr.Ham. good snooping around, but I would appreciate it if
>you respect other people's privacy better next time you decide to post
>other people's details on the newsgroup.

Is it a privacy to conceal one's identity and keep on insulting with lies,
manipulations, and dirty words?  I think world-wide-netters would appreciate
Mr. Ham's detection of semi-criminal in the network.

> Constructive criticism and discussion , Albeit
> heated, is necessary if  we are to move forward and grow in maturity of
>thought. It causes us to re-examine previous accepted norms; it wakes us
>up to critical issues we prefer to ignore before it finally blows out
>of proportion; and it makes us think more critically next time we voice our
>thoughts.
>
> PLEASE, make the distinction. Constructive criticism is NOT the same as
>a MUD-flinging debate where the aim is to be as nasty as possible or injure
>the opposite party as much as possible.
>Mud flinging is an intentional act.
>
>I apologise if a hurt any one; it was UNintentional.

Who will absorb your hypocritical preaches after reading all the articles 
written by you.  Only those busy netters who could have enough time to 
follow every posts thoroughly will be confused by these oral service.

If you don't think it is enough, please collect all the articles posted 
in this s.c.k., and post it again, you will understand then.  

Was these UNintentional?  I, who want you not to be a criminal, desperately 
hope so.

As I read your vain justifications of your misdeeds in your writings, 
I could not help being disgusted at your dishonesty, disguise, lie, 
ignorance, and arrogance, as well as discriminative prejudice. 
As a conclusion,
I was happy to hear that your were not a Chinese, because you could
have been the first Chinese I don't like.  Therefore, followings
are only for you NCGMT(=Non-Chinese Grand Master Tong), not for a
Chinese.  Never generalize or manipulate my statements here as you
'UNintentionally' used to at your ease.  I will sue (I learned from
your article about the usage of the word 'sue', though I, belonging to a
Confucian society, personally don't like to sue others.) you if you
do so.  Because you posted dirty insults to so many Koreans in an
world-wide-open news network, and you never said sorry about that
until now (only 'apologize IF I HURT ANY ONE' was all that you
expressed until now.  Do you really think anybody may not be hurt
by an insult like 'f*ck you *ssh*l*'?.)   I felt a responsibility
for the sake of Korean-American community to post this letter in s.c.k. as a
public response.  My intention was to show how arbitrarily you are
using your 'logic' in public.  
  Yes, thanks for your mention of 'logic'.  But I couldn't
understand what you mean by it.  Is that 'logic' another Uzi you
invented to flame innocent people?
     I understand the essence of 'Logic' to be a consistency in
reasoning.  Let me show you a evidence why your logic is not 
consistent nor rational, but confusing or arbitrary.   

     You raised a question about Koreans as a race not a
nationality, didn't you?.  If you deny that, you are proving you
are a fool looking for a fish on the tree.  The Korean people you
saw in TV were not Koreans at all.  They were citizens of US who
were victimized by the dirty racism that is in air in this country
as I mentioned before. 

If you called them Koreans, why not you are a Chinese?  A Chinese 
who hides himself between Chinese race and Chinese nationality.  A
Chinese who denies Chinese heritage.
If you call yourself a non-Chinese, why do you ask about non-Koreans 
in s.c.k.  
 I would not care any more
even though you take pride in being born in Ghana, and love
African history and culture.  However, if somebody respects himself or
herself, he or she should also have respect on others as much.  
The 'Questions' (Most Koreans would agree that most of them were
full of dangerous racist prejudice on Koreans (at worst case) or
vulgar hobby of provoking others (at best case).

Read your 'Questions' again carefully.  If you cannot understand
the reason why most Koreans were upset from your innocent 'Chinese 
questions', read it again after changing the word 'Koreans' to 
'you' and 'Chinese' to 'Koreans'.    

 If, as you are saying repeatedly, you were really ignorant of East
Asian culture and history, why don't you ask to one of your Asian
friends or go to a public library and refer to Britannica?  If you
really intended to learn a good knowledge and not to insult
Koreans, and you could finally grasp a bit of knowledge, why don't
you humbly apologize to all Korean netters for their annoyance from
your misdeed,  instead of justifying in vain poorly written
'questions' or smartly written 'insult' or declaring arrogantly 'I 
apologize if a hurt any one; it was UNintentional'?  
In Korean society, I don' care if you will like it or not, it is
considered to be a shame (at best) or a cheat (at worst) to hide
one's identity in a world-wide-open network discussion.  People do
not consider it as a kind of privacy.  I think that is the same
there in Western Africa as any other cultures, isn't it? 
Don't blame Mr. Ham for his telling the truth, nor threaten 
anybody in the name of lawsuit.  Law does not protect the right 
of hidden identity who fools others (As for the lawsuit, you have 
much reasons to be sued by Korean Citizens or Korean-Americans). 
And I have read many F-languages from your open letters in
s.c.k., which really discomforted me.  That is a kind of psychic insult
which needs a certain compensation.  I think many silent readers will share
my position in this sense. You are taking advantage of anonymosity provided 
by INTERNET.  
Chinese will also feel ashamed on your hiding racial identity in the
name of nationality, just as we Koreans and Israelis do. 
 Finally, here is my answer to your 'Questions'.

Koreans are not a special 'Homo sapiens' like any other human race.  
Imagine and understand Koreans just as you think about your parents 
and neighbors in Ghana.  

Thank MT for not denying your parents' racial identity.
I would like appreciate your parents' endeavor to bring you up as a proud 
Western African.  That what I really respect.  Pride and compassion on 
one's own history. 

                                8/18/1992

                                Rokho Kim  

                                >I    S    -^-  
                                []   -^-    O
                                      ^I   -^-

P.S.    Forgive me for my over-reaction, if any.  
        Please correct my mistake, if any.
        Thanks to patient readers like you. 
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