HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ccw5695@eafs000.ca.boeing.com (Charles C. White)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Help me debug my mail
Keywords: mail
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:15:14 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: g2543

I am looking for non-Boeing to help me debug my sendmail.
I am having trouble getting my return address correct on
my mail.  Whenever I send mail outside of Boeing, the
recipients cannot "reply to sender". 

What I would like is a couple of "outsiders" who would
receive mail from me.  I need them to send me back the
entire mail header as received by their mail system.  I
would also like them to "reply to sender" and see if it
makes it to me, or gets bounced back.

Contact me if you have a few minutes to help.

Thanks

-- 

Charlie White                 |  Boeing Computer Services  |
ccw5695@eafs000.ca.boeing.com |  P.O. Box 24346  MS 01-90  | "Bite Me!"
(206) 342-2837                |  Seattle, WA   98124-0346  |   - Roy Otis
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: machman@stein.u.washington.edu (The Machman)
Subject: Date of Gubernatorial Inauguration?
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: pnw
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:36:22 GMT

That's a mouthful.  Plain and simple, I'd like to know on what
date will Mike Lowry be sworn in as the new governor of Washington?


-- 
 /'''   The Machman        machman@u.washington.edu        david c carroll
 c-OO                                                                      
    \                     "Big Science.  Hallelujah"
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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: davego@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Your favorite public art
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:54:00 GMT

In article <87496@bcsaic.boeing.com> vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver) writes:
>monaghan@cac.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan ) writes:
>>Waiting for the Interurban
>>
>>People are constantly dressing them up for various occasions, almost like
>>living art.
>
>Let's try to give locations for all these if we can, OK?
>
>Waiting for the Interurban is on Leary Way, at the North side of the
>Fremont Bridge.

Waiting for the Interurban appeared in the movie called
Say Anything (or Something).  Does anyone know if it has 
shown up in any other movies filmed here in the Seattle area?


Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: ricke@amc.com (Rick Eggers)
Subject: Re: Asshole Driver Award
Organization: Applied Metaphysics, Redmond, WA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:10:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.205531.15240@polari> peterd@polari.online.com writes:
>ricke@amc.com (Rick Eggers) writes:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Petey! You didn't include one thing I wrote?
Why not reference the original by Tim smith and leave
me out of it. See below for why.

>>In article <1992Nov13.082048.15871@u.washington.edu> tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
>>>Yesterday I witnessed the most obnoxious thing I've ever personally seen
>>>a driver do.  This topped anything I saw in ten years of living in Pasadena
>>>and four years of living in the Bay Area.
>>>
>>>This bozo pulled into a handicapped parking space, got out of his car,
>>>*pulled* *the* *handicapped* *sign* *out* *of* *the* *ground*, and went
>>>off go wherever he was going!
>>>
>>>By the time I got back with security guards to nail this person, he
>>>had left.  He didn't even put back the sign when he left.
>>>
>>>
>>>--Tim Smith
>
>After the barage of silly things recommended
>I would add my two cents.
>
>I think it would be only fair if you had replaced the sign
>in such wise as for the bozo to not miss it on his return:
>say through the windsheild and steering wheel.
>
>Of course the less violent way would have been to have let the air o
>out of his tires, thus slowing his departure.
>
>now to see if this editor worked.
>
>chus
>pyotr
>
>-- 
>Peter D. Hampe; EKA peterd@polari.online.com
>Drat - I've traded my magic beans for a stupid cow!

I would like to point out that the people here who
advocate scratching paint, breaking windows, and 
slashing tires are more despicable times 10 than
the people who park in handicapped zones. What 
moral turpitude does it take to want to harm 
complete strangers in the name of defending 
the handicapped? You people should be ashamed 
of yourselfs! Now go to your room and don't
expect any supper tonight!
slashing tires are more dispicable
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Your favorite public art
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:41:33 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

In article <1992Nov17.152538.11421@u.washington.edu> bobhurt@cac.washington.edu (Bob Hurt ) writes:
>
>So, what's your favorite public art?
>
SeaTac Airport has lots of public art in the main terminal.  My favorite
is a wall by Louise Nevelson (sp).  I can't tell you exactly where it is,
but if you wander around enough in the terminal, you should eventually find
it.
The totem pole-like sculpture of raining animals in front of Wallingford Center
(N 45th St and Wallingford Ave N).

The entrance to the grounds of Sunnyside Center (N 50th St and Meridian Ave N).

The manhole covers in old Ballard (Ballard Ave).

The bronze dance steps at various places along Broadway on Capitol Hill.

------
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  // ....uw-beaver!bcsaic!voodoo!das
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell)
Subject: Re: Your favorate Public Access system
Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:22:15 GMT

In <1992Nov20.192823.1718@polari> kyl@polari.online.com writes:

:I am thinking of switching to another system.  Any recommendations?  Any 
:opinions based on your experiences would be appreciated.  What do you know
:or hear about Eskimo North?  Howabout SLUG system?

The SLUG system (camco) doesn't allow interactive login sessions,
only uucp connections for members of the Seattle Unix Group.  We
provide mail connections and forwarding through camco and set up
most connections as system_name.seaslug.org under our domain.
You can send e-mail to any current Slug member using:
	first_name.last_name@seaslug.org
(the '.' between first_name and last_name is important).  This
will go to an e-mail address if they have one or may be forwarded
to a fax number if they don't have an e-mail address.

We do maintain a pretty large selection of source (and some binary
groups) archived from the news which are available for uucp transfer.

Bill
-- 
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             uunet!camco!bill   Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591
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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: kurt@eskimo.com (Kurt Cockrum)
Subject: Re: Computer Hardware Dealers...Who To Avoid
Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<
Distribution: seattle
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:21:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.191558.4996@nwnexus.WA.COM> dsp@halcyon.com (Don Smith) writes:
>basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
[...good stuff about PCN deleted...]
>  I've have to disagree with you. I bought a computer from them, brought
>it in for service and they reformatted my HD wiping out 5 Megs of
>research on a project which is now patent pending. They set me back
>several months.
[...]

One reason the HD got reformatted was to avoid issues WRT possibly
seeing sensitive/proprietary data.  Makes a lot of sense.  It's a damned
sight easier to just wipe out the data on the HD rather than take on
non-compensated fiduciary responsibilities WRT somebody's data.
I don't know technically how it's done, but I would guess that it's
similar to a degaussing operation, i. e. by bulk application of a rapidly
changing global magnetic field, rather than real writes to the head of the
disk.  Most of the time the latter is impossible anyway :) ...

In any case, it's a perfectly legitimate assumption on the part of the
disk repair people that you've taken all the prudent steps to properly
preserve and secure the data on your disk.

Preserving the data on a crapped out HD is really more of a *data* *recovery*
job, for which you can expect to pay out more $$ than you did for just a
disk repair.  If the data recovery people expose themselves to potential
legal liability by seeing your data (and possibly signing non-disclosure
agreements and managing the resulting paperwork and recordkeeping), expect
to pay out more $$ (thru the nose, like).
-- 
kurt@grogatch.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrum)
Subvert the Anti-Gands!		F-IW	MYOB
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: hoefling@mdd.comm.mot.com (Paul Hoefling)
Subject: Re: Novel Idea (was Asshole Driver Award)
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:43:26 GMT

stu@voodoo.boeing.com writes:
> ricke@amc.com (Rick Eggers) writes:
> |> 
> |> I would like to point out that the people here who
> |> advocate scratching paint, breaking windows, and 
> |> slashing tires are more despicable times 10 than
> |> the people who park in handicapped zones. What 
> |> moral turpitude does it take to want to harm 
> |> complete strangers in the name of defending 
> |> the handicapped? You people should be ashamed 
> |> of yourselfs! Now go to your room and don't
> |> expect any supper tonight!
> 
> I'd have to agree with this sentiment and would like to suggest an alternative
> to doing some sort of physical vandalism to the offender's car....
> I've always wanted to have a set of cards printed up that could be used for
> situations to the one mentioned originally in the "Asshole Driver Award" 
> thread.  The card would have several items listed on it that could be checked
> off.  Like the following:

Personally, I've wanted to have flyers printed up reading something like:

	+------------------------------------------------+
	|                                                |
	|  NEW!  Special help for the Parking-impaired:  |
	|                                                |
	|  To sign up, dial 1-800-I-CAN-PARK             |
	|                                                |
	+------------------------------------------------+

Of course, that wouldn't cover all of the *other* idiotic things
people do in traffic...
--
Paul Hoefling
Information Pack Rat
Mobile Data Division - Motorola, Inc.
Bothell, WA
Internet: hoefling@mdd.comm.mot.com

I think, therefore I laugh;  |  Old Celts never die,
I feel, therefore I weep.    |  they just have harp failure.
From: timf@eskimo.com (Timothy R. Flanagan)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Your favorite public art
Date: 19 Nov 92 05:37:50 GMT
Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<


In front of the Howard S Wright Construction Co. is a really cool
concrete statue by the same artist (i suspect), who did the Bus Stop
at the north end of the Freemont Bridge.. Howard S Wright's statue
is located at 425 Pontius N...

KING-TV also has a concrete statue of this type, but it's not as 
nearly as interesting.  It seems to depict a family (including the
dog) staring intently (presumably at a TV, which is not depicted).
KING is at 333 Dexter Av N...

I personally believe that the Two Union Square building at 6th and
Union is the most innovative building in town.  Go inside and notice
the variety of colors and textures used in the lobby.  Look at the
shape of the building, and the "airfoil" concept used in many of the
fixtures, including hand-rails and the directory/reader-board.  It's
really cool.  There's also a model of both Union Square buildings in
the lobby.  Oh, yeah, this building has a definite "front", with a
flag pole at the top and a shape which reminds me of the bridge of a
ship.  I'm no art critique, and no architecture critic either, but
"I know what I like" :-)

tim
-- 
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ACLU  EFF  NRA
tim@reed.edu  
timf@eskimo.celestial.com
From: stamaria@sumax.seattleu.edu (Gil D. Sta. Maria)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Best Wedding Reception Spots
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:16:47 GMT
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Seattle University


I'm looking for a place that can hold about 500 people
and preferably allows outside catering. Can anyone recommend
a good place to hold a wedding reception. Any help or leads
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

-- 
   Gil D. Sta. Maria  | Internet: stamaria@seattleu.edu    
   Seattle U. Alumni  |     Work: gils@microsoft.com  
   Computer Science   | "If at first you don't succeed, redefine success."   
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: hinrich@cqs.washington.edu (Rich Hinrichsen)
Subject: HORNDOGS AT PIONEER SQUARE
Summary: The Horndogs are playing at Larry's 
Keywords: music, rhythm and blues
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:28:27 GMT

Hello R&B lovers.

There is a new band in town called the Horndogs.
They will be playing at Larry's in Pioneer Square
every Tuesday night for the next several weeks. 

They play music from the 60's and 70's by
Wilson Picket, Aretha Franklin, Cold Blood,
Sam and Dave, ....

Instrumentation:

Horn section
trumpet 1 - Jeff Olson	     (of the Seattle Blues Review)
trumpet 2 - Paul Harshman
tenor sax - Kevin Lyons	     (of the Seattle Blues Review)
trombone  - Pat Moran        (of the Jazz Police)

Rhythm section
fender bass - Rich Hinrichsen**
guitar      - Nick Schauer**
drums	    - Mark Kilburn
keyboard    - Bob Baker**

** vocalists

Lead Vocalist
Miss Dawn Tyacke

Songlist:
Hold On, I'm Comin'		Sam and Dave
Soul Man			     ""
Mustang Sally			Wilson Picket
Midnight Hour			     ""
Crossfire			Stevie Ray Vaughn
Don't Treat Me Like Dirt	Cold Blood
Respect				Aretha Franklin
Chain of Fools			     ""

And many more .....

Larry's has a big dance floor, so come prepared to dance.
Music starts at 9:30 PM.
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Camera Repair
Reply-To: Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Distribution: pnw
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:25:13 GMT

Can anyone recommend a good, honest, professional, intelligent, 
camera repairman who does the work there rather than sending the 
camera off to the manufacturer or some bid service company?  

If there's none in Seattle or Tacoma, is there one anywhere?

Thanks!
 - Irving
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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: bobhurt@cac.washington.edu (Bob Hurt )
Subject: Your favorite public art
Organization: UW Computing
Distribution: seattle
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:25:38 GMT

I'm planning on making a video letter for a friend of mine in
another state and I'd like to include as much of Seattle's public
art as possible.  Unfortunately, I don't know where everything is.

Here's what I do know:

    Hammering Man at the Seattle Art Museum
    Troll under the Fremont bridge
    Broken Obylisk at the UW
    Chief Seattle at Pioneer Square


So, what's your favorite public art?

--Bob Hurt
  bobhurt@u.washington.edu
From: pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Novel Idea (was Asshole Driver Award)
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:11:22 GMT
Organization: Totally Unorganized

In article <4305@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> hall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert J. Hall) writes:
<
<In article <3359@voodoo.UUCP>, stu@voodoo.boeing.com (Stuart Liddle) writes:
<> In article <1992Nov18.171023.294@amc.com>, ricke@amc.com (Rick Eggers) writes:
<> |>
<> |> I would like to point out that the people here who
<> |> advocate scratching paint, breaking windows, and
<> |> the handicapped? You people should be ashamed
<   ... deleted for brevity ...
<>
<> I'd have to agree with this sentiment and would like to suggest an alternative
<> to doing some sort of physical vandalism to the offender's car....
<> I've always wanted to have a set of cards printed up that could be used for
<> situations to the one mentioned originally in the "Asshole Driver Award"
<   ... deleted for brevity ...
<
<You too, huh? I'd like to get some ADA bumper stickers for use the next time
<I find ine 'inconveniently' parked. Chances are the jerk won't notice the
<sticker on his/her bumber for months. Meanwhile the rest of us will have
<clear warning. An amusing concept...

Nice idea, but best stick to windshild cards to go under the wipers.
Some folks have been known to get rather testy when they catch someone
sticking ANYTHING with adhesive (like bumper stickers) on their car -
especially on the newer painted bumpers.  And sticking something that
requires sovents, etc for removal on someones car amounts to a level of
vandalism, since the removal can damage the surface.  More than one
person has had their features 'readjusted' when they get caught.
Remember, the person is presumably an asshole, and will respond like
one.

Put another way, don't do something to someone else you wouldn't want
done to you, or you are putting yourself at the level you are criticizing.

-- 
pat@rwing.uucp                                  (Pat Myrto),  Seattle, WA
                      If all else fails, try:
         ...!uunet!{pilchuck, polari}!rwing!pat
WISDOM:    "Travelling unarmed is like boating without a life jacket" 
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: kyl@polari.online.com
Subject: Your favorate Public Access system
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Distribution: seattle
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:28:23 GMT

I am thinking of switching to another system.  Any recommendations?  Any 
opinions based on your experiences would be appreciated.  What do you know
or hear about Eskimo North?  Howabout SLUG system?

Thanks,

Kyu Lee
kyl@polari.online.com
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: ethanb@ptolemy.astro.washington.edu (Ethan Bradford)
Subject: For rent: 2BR Wallingford Apt. $595/mo
Organization: U. of Washington
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:47:37 GMT

It has two comfortably big bedrooms and a living room and a dining
room (the living room could be converted to an extra bedroom -- that
is what the previous tenants did).  It also has an eat-in kitchen and
a large pantry.

It is the bottom unit of a duplex.  In the basement there are a free
washer and a dryer in good condition (shared with the upper unit (3 or
4 other people)) and some extra storage.  It has a covered back porch,
a back yard, and off-street parking.

It is at 3826 1/2 Meridian Ave. N., just 1.5 blocks from buses to UW
and downtown and I can bike to the U in less than 8 minutes.  The
neighborhood is quiet and residential, though there is a corner store
3.5 blocks away.

Sorry, no pets (we would have it rented several times over if they
were allowed, but a previous tenant used the carpet as a litter box
and that turned the landlord off pets forever).

It will have new carpets when you move in and be squeaky clean.  It
should be available around Dec. 15, a little earlier if you realy need
it; a little later if you must.

The heat is gas, which is good because you pay all utilities.  The
landlord wants first + last + $300 security to move in, but you can
negotiate spreading that out.

Reply to this account or to 547-3495 (if you prefer).

Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: davego@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Where's the News
Keywords: late? missing? vaporware?
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:00:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.033807.14581@polari> peterd@polari.online.com writes:
>Getting an excelent feed for material her in Seattle.
>
>Not getting much from the 'outside' world - like
>california.  can't believe that nothing is being
>posted from 'out there'.
>
>did anybody else notice a 150 plus hour hiatus
>in the news?  I know that systems sometimes get
>a little sluggish but a week?  It would have been
>nice to have gotten some kind of message explaining /
>rationalizing the situation.
>
>disgruntled.
>
>Yeah - cause now there will be a segmentation fault
>again, and I'll be flying blind again.
>
>-- 
>Peter D. Hampe; EKA peterd@polari.online.com
>Drat - I've traded my magic beans for a stupid cow!

Get used to it.  For the past several months, this system, polari, has been
experiencing periodic lapses in News and Mail.  When this happens, Bruce
ignores it, or at least he doesn't inform us of what's going on.  When he does
deign to respond, it always seems to be in an obtuse fashion, complaining
about this or that, but never be fully candid about what's up.  Last week I
read his latest post in lobby, and essentially he said he is too busy
right now to fix whatever is wrong.

That's too bad.  Polari is the fastest system in town for News and Mail.  If
polari was on the internet it would be perfect.  But its not.  Halcyon is on
the internet with all it has to offer but is slower than molasses.

My .25 worth of complaining today.


Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: dsp@halcyon.com (Don Smith)
Subject: Re: Computer Hardware Dealers...Who To Avoid
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:15:58 GMT

basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:


>I've purchased, through my work, tens of thousands of dollars worth of
>computer equipment from Pacific Coast Network computers up at 135th and
>Aurora.  Overall, I've been very pleased.  If you go there, talk to 
>David Hibbert.  He knows what he's talking about, gives you lots of his time,
>isn't at all condescending, and won't bullshit you.

>David Basiji


  I've have to disagree with you. I bought a computer from them, brought
it in for service and they reformatted my HD wiping out 5 Megs of
research on a project which is now patent pending. They set me back
several months.
  To make a long story short, all they did was to not charge me for the
"service call" and send me out the door with a free printer ribbon. I'd
avoid Pacific Coast Network like the plague.

    
     Don
From: robs@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert Sipe)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Taxes
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:45:08 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Boeing

In article <4300@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> hall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert J. Hall) writes:
>Being that the Seattle residents are probably more familiar with our new
>governor than the rest of us, what can we expect from Mike Lowry in the
>future? (Besides taxes on everything that doesn't grow under rotten logs,
>of course.)
>-- 
> Bob Hall                   |
> Boeing Computer Services   |  Behind every dark cloud,
> root@chicken.ca.boeing.com |  there's a Seattle Skyline.

Well, in this morning's issue of the liberal PI he quite clearly states
that he must raise taxes to balance the budget.  As a consolation he has
pledged to reduce spending as well.   He plans to increase gas taxes.  He
states that a 20 cent increase per gal would not be exceptable but he will
ask for a number as high as he can.  He is also making a pitch to increase
the sales tax.  By how much he won't yet reveal.  He also wants to increase
or add taxes to services like financial planners, bond and money market
accounts to name a few.  One of the items he wants to pay for from
increased taxes is alternate transportation serivices.  

As a means of cutting costs he expects to reduce the number of employees of
the state by 1000-1500.  

KING county residents are now paying an additional $12.00 per year on their
residence and employeers $12.00 per employee to cover the costs of bridge
and road repair.  Lowery is not even in office yet and look what the liberal
demos are getting away with.  It is a good thing the demos have a mandate. 







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