HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: BATHROOMS
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:01:46 GMT

In article <1e8ujmINNk0j@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
> ... now, if they could be so enlightened to have one called BIG
>JANE, which is about 4 times the size of big john (no matter HOW big
>it is) ... when are the designers of these 'thangs' ever gonna clue
>into the fact that for us females, it's not just a 'point and shoot'
>affair?  i mean, are there EVER lines for the men's rooms?????

At Shoreline there is more square footage devoted to the women's rooms than
to the men's rooms (don't know the exact amount -- but it's 1.5x or 2x if my
memory serves).  I know it isn't 4x, but at least Bill G. (mhrip) listened
to the need.

And, yes, there ARE frequently lines for the men's rooms -- but they don't
usually stretch way outside like in the women's rooms.  I'm surprised more
women don't invade the men's rooms.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

There are three ways to get something done: do it yourself, hire
someone, or forbid your kids to do it.
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From: dback@chopin.udel.edu (Daniel B Louderback)
Subject: '68 tree
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: rec.music.gdead
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:24:43 GMT

HELP!!  I was just about to mail some tapes to my parent in the '68 tree, when
my computer died.  I lost all of my information as well as my access to the
net.  If you are my parent in the tree please mail me your address!  I think
it was dhoover?

Thanks in advance,
Dan

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From: samuels@waldron.Stanford.EDU (Steve Samuels)
Subject: Re: "Ain't No Time to Hate" billboard in Denver
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 20:33:38 GMT

In article <Bxpxz2.BoJ@well.sf.ca.us> tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans) writes:
>
>So we've decided to buy a billboard at or near McNichols.  It will feature
>the "Ain't no time to hate" logo and the words   UNDO 2   plus the names
>of the sponsoring organizations (including "Deadheads Against Discrimination,"
>the ad-hoc entity that's handling the fundraising for this billboard).
> 
>Here's the collection address for contributions to the
>Denver billboard project:
>  
>      Deadheads Against Discrimination
>      2888 Bluff Street, Suite 496
>      Boulder, CO 80301
> 
> 
>Make checks payable to Deadheads Against Discrimination, or D.A.D.

Don't forget to pass this message on to those (deadhead) friends of
yours without net access.  If you tell two friends, and they each tell
two friends, and they all tell two friends....

HammaH
"such a long long time to be gone, and a short time to be there"
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From: MLEVIN%BROOK.BITNET@vtvm2.cc.vt.edu
Subject: Set Break Tunes
Reply-To: MLEVIN%BROOK.BITNET@vtvm2.cc.vt.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:32:04 GMT

I recall (well, I can't really recall the show, but...) some show, I think
buring a NYE run from about the mid 80's where they played music from Bugs
Bunny cartoons during the break.  We were up near the front, but they were
playing it really softly, kkinda sneaking into into our
by-then-quite-altered consiousnes.  I recall it set quite a festive mood
for what was to follow.

Another time I will swear that they had taken MIDI samples of the sounds of
the audience and played them back during a break.  I think that they may
have patched it into Brent's kewyboards and had him play the samples during
Space that night, too.

Then of course, I could be totally wrong... :-)


All the shows combine,
they melt into a Dream...

Michael
From: burchell@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Jeff Burchell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Nak 400
Date: 16 Nov 1992 22:04:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu
Summary: .
Keywords: nak 400


I saw a very very nice used NAK 400 tape deck at a stereo store the other
day, and was wondering who had any sort of experience with this model. It
seems like a very very high-end deck (although about 5-10 years old) and it is
in very good shape (Im taking a scope and test tape down there in the next few d days)

What Im asking, is who has used one of these, and were your experiences pleasant This is a nak that I can actually afford, someone kindly clue me in as to its
good/bad sides.

-Jeff

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From: tracer@carson.u.washington.edu (David P. Tracer)
Subject: Re: vw vans, bmw 525's, porsche 911 turbos
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:01:17 GMT

In article <Qf31tgu00WBLA6PrBe@andrew.cmu.edu> Jennifer Yablonsky <jy0t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>hey you dead heads
>
>while you guys are driving around in your vw vans living poverty and
>selling tie dyes jerry's driving a round in a BMW 535 and bob's driving
>around in Porsche 911 turbo.
>chew on that for awhile hippies.
>

Just wanted to inform everyone, that there's nothing personal here. 
Jennifer (or whomever is using her account) has been posting crap like
this on a whole bunch of the rec.music.* groups.

"Momentary madness - this too will pass away"

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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Women on stage w/the Dead
Keywords: women dead
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:15:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.235440.1025@sco.com> steveha@sco.COM (Steve Harris) writes:
>
>Hey Now!!!
>
>Let me get this straight?
>
>Donna Godschaux	(1972-1979)
>
>Janis Joplin  (w/Pig '69?)  a great Lovelight on the tape I heard.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^

So how many times did Janis appear with Pig? I've got one tape
Fillmore West 6/7/69 and another Fillmore East (date not in virtual
memory:-) ) And have seen one other date mentioned.

This looks like good ODC to confirm, anyone care to?
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>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


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From: lw24lag@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (peter lavallee)
Subject: Re: vw_vans_bmw_525s_porsche_911_turbos
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-3778]: rs1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:18:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.163627.7407@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ken@venus.odetics.com writes:
>OK, here's my VW story.  My first car was a yellow '71
>  

What a great idea!
I had moved up from my '73 beetle, by buying a friend's late-
model rabbit.  Unfortunately, the rabbit burst into flames
on Mass. Ave. in downtown Boston traffic -- and just before
the East Coast Tour was to start!

I had tickets to all thirteen shows (back when they would fill
whole-tour orders), and I managed to get a ride to the Virgina
shows, as well as Philly (where we crashed on my friend Dawes's
grandmother's floor, and she had the maid making us all
breakfast Sunday morning!).  In Philly, Dawes and I parted
company, with plans to meet at a motel in Hartford.

After Philly came Portland, Me., which was no problem to reach
from my home-base in New Hampshire.  In Portland, we caught the
only "Hamstrung Blues" and a hot "Supplication Jam."

From Maine I trekked to Providence, where I stayed with my
bro' at Brown, and he lent me -- yup -- the old '73 Beetle
he had inherited from me.

The stereo had been removed (to install in the rabbit), so all
this cold ~ortheasternn wind came blowing through the dash,
on my drive to Hartford.

I was quite late arriving in Hartford, and Dawes was anxious, as
I held his tickets.  He was waving me down inthe street in front of
the motel, when I arrived.  We caught another "Supplication," as
well as a "He's Gone" --> "Smokestack."  We didn't know it at the
time, but we also witnessed the retirement of "Day Job."  And I was
back to my day job, as the tour came to an end.

(The beetle is still running, better than ever.)

pjl
>|---------------------|                                    |
>|   ken@odetics.com   |    "...let the words be yours,     |
>|   (Ken Schumacher)  |         I'm done with mine."       |
>|---------------------|                                    |


--
Peter J. Lavallee		: "Live free or die."
lw24lag@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu	:          -- Major Gen. John Stark
From: grady@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: zero show
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:23:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Was anyone at the Zero/Buffalo Roam show on Friday? How was it?
Does Zero seem to be building up a following? How was Buffalo Roam?

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From: "ellen p. buckley" <eb@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu>
Subject: dates
Reply-To: eb@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:30:48 GMT

could somebody please email me the latest tour-date info?  being an 
east-coaster who can't afford to travel, i deleted it and one of my 
west-coast friends asked me for the info.  i'd appreciate it muchly.  

peace,

ellen

-- 
  **************************************************************************

   "sometimes the songs that we hear                ellen p. buckley 
    
    are just songs of our own. . . "                eb@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu
 
  **************************************************************************
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From: Lance Encell <lencell@unmc.edu>
Subject: Stamford, 1973
Reply-To: lencell@unmc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:38:55 GMT
From: dougg@fnma.com (Doug Griffiths)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Bob & Rob
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:19:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov18.161915.1355
Reply-To: dougg@fnma.com
Organization: The Internet


|In article <1992Nov17.143221.23144@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virg>inia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
|>
|>the impression Ive gotten is that Jorma is not a 'special guest' for 
|>these shows but will be playing a set before Bob n Rob. Call (804)
|>295-TRAX for more info about the Charlottesville Show.
|
|Ok, this sounds like a great idea, just a couple questions.
|
|What reservations are involved here?
|
|How will this help Native Americans?
|
|Will all fences be torn down from the Canadian border to Texas, so
|that the Buffalo can regain the range necessary to foster healthy
|reinstatement?
|
|Will the BLM and BIA be involved in this?
|
|Cynical, yes:-)
|
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|TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
|brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Well, Todd, all good questions that I've been wondering myself.  If 
nobody else answers them sooner, I will try to cover them all on Monday,
after the shows.

peace,
Doug G
From: mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey)
Subject: Re: Grateful Dead song poll
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:53:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.200639.21430@u.washington.edu> tracer@carson.u.washington.edu (David P. Tracer) writes:
>>>Top three "other" revivals (instrumentals, Phil tunes :), etc...) 
>
>This one's easy:
>
>1. THE ELEVEN
>2. THE ELEVEN
>3. THE ELEVEN
>
>-David
>


Well, they may as well slip St. Stephen in there as well ;-).
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From: brust@i5120q.nrl.navy.mil (Joe Brust)
Subject: Re: Why a lack of minorities at shows?
Organization: NRL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:04:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.070814.23330@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> RFEATHER@macc.wisc.edu writes:
>Somebody just noted that they see very few non-whites at shows,
>and wondered why.  I too have pondered over this question, and have
>a couple of guesses.

>First, the entire counter-culture scene that developed in the
>late 60's seems to have been largely a middle-class white phenomenon.
>ILargely it was a college educated class that was secure enogh to
>be able to drop out for a while.  The same can be said today,
>it takes a lot of money to afford a tour's worth of tickets, and
>significant job flexibility to take the time off.  Some people,

Yes, it takes a lot of money to afford a tour, but not a lot to afford a
show now and then, and a couple CD's and show tapes.  I don't think money
has much to do with it.  And I know a lot of non-whites with plenty of cash.

>Second, it seems to me that a lot of white middle class people are
>sort of lost spiritually and culturally.  In their rejection of
>the system run by other white service class professionals, many
>'heads find their sense of community and identity in the Dead.
>Perhaps people with minority backgrounds find that sense of identity
>in their own ethnic or racial communities and thus don't need
>to look for it in somethng like the Dead.

Hmmm, interesting.  I don't think this is it either, but interesting.

>Lastly, this may be off base but I think there is a tendancy
>to lump the Dead with the southern rock sound ala the Allmans
>or Lynard Skinnard.  Maybe some minority people assume that
>the audience of the show will be a bunch a drunken rednecks
>rather than the peaceful family we have all gotten to know and
>love :-)

Now this, I'll buy.

>Any other comments or ideas?

Yes.  Now that you mention it.  I've been wondering why I see so few non-whites
at blues, r&b, and zydeco shows such as B.B. King and C.J. Chenier.  I went to
Jazz Fest in Naulins' the last couple years and most of the (great) performers
are black, and the vast majority of the 300,000 attendees are white.

What's the deal?  Anyone?

					Joe
-- 

Joe Brust                              /
Acoustic Signal Processing Branch     /
Naval Research Lab, Code 7124        /// 
Washington, D.C. 20375                /
brust@wave.nrl.navy.mil 202-767-2493 /  I'd rather be in some dark hollow...
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Deadheads in the White House
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:15:19 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1992Nov17.213906.8483@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> faunt@cisco.com writes:
>Just remember, before you get too carried away, that Tipper Gore was
>the one who was promoting censorship of music lyrics.
>doug

Doug,

The key phrase in your post is "was promoting", as in past tense.  Actually,
she was promoting warning labels similar to the motion picture industry.  That
was back in the 85-87 time frame.  In 1990, she recanted her position.  Like
all of us, she has the right to change her mind.

I'm not sure a labelling system would have been much of an agent for censorship,
anyway.  Once the movie business started using it, the commercial cinema
became far looser than at any time during its history, including the pre-Hays
Code period.

George Lambert

"Everybody's a hero, everybody's a star,
Everybody's in show biz, it doesn't matter who you are.
And those who are successful, be always on your guard:
Success walks hand in hand with failure along Hollywood Boulevard."
						--- Ray Davies
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From: loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection)
Subject: Dead Siting on Murphy Brown
Organization: Quake Public Access, Sylmar CA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:52:08 GMT

Interesting night Monday...on Murphy Brown, Miles gets thrown into 
jail with his activist parents, and there's this mean looking dude
in there for atmosphere, and he's got this vest on with a "Steal Your
Face" plain as day,

but what made Monday real weird, is I found out that I'm Blossom Russo's
real brother.  For those who don't watch Blossom, sorry if this one is
lost on you.  But the youngest Russo, Joey, becomes convinced that he
was switched at birth with *Joey Rossi*  causing him to assert "I'm
Joe Rossi." 

And that makes me the real Joey Russo.

joe rossi, uh, joe russo, uh...
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From: nate@anasazi.com (Nate Holtz)
Subject: Re: Tempe drinking establishments
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:30:48 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.gdead
Keywords: beer  beer  beer  beer  beer  beer  beer  beer  beer 

In article <1e8sqlINNflo@ub.d.umn.edu> kmalmber@ub.d.umn.edu (kenneth malmberg) writes:
>Coming along way for the Compton Terrace shows...are there any microbreweries
>in Tempe.  How about pool halls, or friendly neighborhood pubs?
>
>

Tempe drinking establishments...
Casey Moore's Oyster House on the corner of 9th and Ash in Tempe (near ASU)
A friendly atmosphere, plenty of good beer on tap (Harp, Bass, XX, Guinness)
and great food (though somewhat pricey)  A wonderful place to hang out after
the show Sat.

Bandersnatch Brew Pub  on 5th St near the football stadium.  Cheaper food, 
micro-brewery on location, more college oriented, not as good as Casey's (IMO).

Ozzie's Warehouse, on University and Farmer(?), right next to ASU, always a 
good time...

For live music, try Edcel's Attic, the Sun Club, or Boston's, all feature live
music nightly.

The only pool hall I know of in Tempe is the Rack and Q on Apache between Rural
and McClintock.  I haven't been there for about five years, so I can't judge.
There is, however, Click's Billiards, in Phoenix (though pretty close to Tempe)
A nice place with good tables and plenty to drink.  A touch on the expensive
side, however.

The Mill Avenue Street Fair will be going on Dec 4-6.  500 artist's and crafts
people, plus music, food, and other events.  Mill Ave. will be closed near the
university, so don't get caught in the traffic.  This also brings 50-75,000
people to Tempe, so things could get kinda crowded.  

Compton Terrace, for those who haven't been there yet, is on the southern edge 
of the metro Phoenix area.  Next to Firebird Lake (a drag boat lake) and 
raceway, it's just off of I-10 at the Maricopa exit (I think).  You can't miss 
it.  Look for me, I'll be the hippy looking guy with his mother on Saturday. 
(her first show!)...
17 daze...
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From: "RAM DEMO" <rdemo37@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: GD and Computers
Organization: RAM Mobile Data
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:26:37 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

Jimmy Lichtman asks:

>Do members of the band use computers?  I have heard some might use
>email (on the well?)?  Has anyone ever heard from them this way?
>Do they use computers at the shows?  What about midi?  How about
>jerry's artwork on inferred roses?  Do deadheads bring computers
>to shows?  Are they networked?  Could they be networked?  Would
>you want to be online at a show?  Are there midi files of deadhows?
>Are they on the net yet?  

The entire band is using MIDI.  Brent of course used MIDI early on, but 
Bob, Phil, the drummers and Jerry have all added MIDI capabilities.  
Jerry seemed to almost overindulge in MIDI when he first got started, 
but he seems to have calmed down on it now.  Space is of course a MIDI 
extravaganza when they want it to be.

As to deadheads bringing computers to shows, I have brought an HP95LX 
palmtop to shows and sent e-mail from same device using wireless 
technology.  I do not know if anyone else is using the same.
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From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Subject: Re: nye & npr
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:29:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.014818.16390@samba.oit.unc.edu> Jeffrey.Hale@launchpad.unc.edu (Jeffrey Hale) writes:
>there's been that wonderful substitute fix of the National Public Radio
>broadcasts hosted by Mr. Gans.  We could sit (or dance) in the comfort of
>our living rooms, and dream of exotic locales, like Oakland.  These

>past?  Realistically, I suppose it's too late for the powers to arrange
>such things if they're not already, no matter how plaintively and
>voluminously we fill David Gans' e-mail box.  But I may try it anyway. 
>Dare we hope that something like this is already in the works?

Dan Healy and I were talking about doing a "best of New Year's" compilation 
but I don't know if there's going to be time to pull it off.  I'll let you
know if it happens, I promise!

-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf

Organization: Biological Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:18:11 -0500 
From: "Lisa M. Smith" <ls3q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: "Ain't No Time to Hate" billboard in Denver
	<1992Nov18.184727.14304@tc.fluke.COM>

>to block their vicious anti-gay initiative, we came up with a sticker and
>t-shirt design: the "stealie" with a pink triangle where the lightning
>bolt used to be and "Ain't no time to hate" across the top.  Well, Veneta
 
where can we unfortunates not going to CO get a hold of t-shirts?  will they
be sold as a fund-raiser?  i hope so.  WA is the OCA's next target.




PA isn't an OCA target (at least not to my knowledge) but I'd be
interested in a shirt, too.  Info on where to come by one, anyone??

lms
From: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. Eric Nay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Joe Hack Situation (no ODC)
Date: 16 Nov 1992 23:56:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu writes:
>sorry folk,s but this group has got to be among the lamest on the net.
>good day.

Thanx for sharing your brilliant, positive and most non-lame insight. ;-)
-- 
It left a smoking crater of my mind I'd like to blown away
From: cave@cis.rand.org (Jonathan Cave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: GD and Susan Vega
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:42:56 GMT
Reply-To: cave@cis.rand.org (Jonathan Cave)
Organization: RAND, Santa Monica CA


Other women with the Dead: 2/14/70(?) Fillmore East, Janis Joplin/Pigpen
duet on Lovelight...
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