From: Bill.Carlson@p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Commentary On Yochanan's Good-News 5/5
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:33:08 GMT
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JN19:30 This verse never says He "drank" it, but rather that He
        "took-<2983>" it.  This is a Greek word that has a wide variety
        of applications.  However, if you'll note in the other Good-
        News accounts, when Yeshua tasted of it, He would not drink it.
        So... the "took" here does not mean as in drinking it, rather,
        He only tasted it, while not drinking it.
JN19:36 {Pesahim 7:10-11}
JN19:37 Sometimes we will hear the critics will say that here there is
        not an exact quote given from the Hebrew Masoretic Text, and
        that Yochanan/(John) here, and other writers of the New
        Covenant, are trying to pass of their Targums as the original
        Hebrew quotation.  First of all, Yochanan never states that
        he is quoting from the Hebrew, indeed the quote is in the Greek
        Good-News account, and unless one was actually reading the
        actual Written Torah, one is permitted to Targum.   Yochanan is
        stating: 'another Scripture says', showing what is meant, or
        what it says to us - the basis for the Targumim themselves.  As
        well we need to remember, that Yochanan's perspective had
        changed, and he is writing looking back at the event in the New
        Covenant, while the writer in Tanakh is looking forward.
             Hardly a single ancient Jewish writers quotes with citing
        their source, which sometimes is from the LXX, sometimes the
        Masoretic, sometimes a Targum.  The Midrashim are full of such
        examples.  And we conclude that Yochanan's practice was
        completely in line with early Judaic practice.
             Besides, quotes in the Talmud of the Hebrew Scriptures
        sometimes vary from the Masoretic Text, (R. Akivah Eiger in:
        Gilyon HaSas to HaTosafot on Shabbat 55b; and see in: Peshat &
        Derash - Plain & Applied Meaning In Rabbinic Exegesis, Oxford
        U. Press, 1991.)  Also in T.B. Berakhot 61a, part of a verse
        quoted Rav Nahman Bar Isaac, is not found at all in the
        Masoretic texts.  [See commentary Matt.27:35]
JN20:1  According to the Tz'dukim/(Sadducees), (who were also the
        Cohanim/Priests in charge of the Temple rites), the First Feast
        Of First Fruits, (Omer Raesheet), was always on the first day
        of the week, (sunday), following Pesach/Passover.  The P'rushim
        had a different way of figuring the time of this Holy Day; but
        during the Temple period, the observance was always according
        to the order of the Tz'dukim who were in charge of the Temple.
JN20:19 {Berakhoth 2:1; 9:5; Middoth 1:2}}
JN20:23 {Baba Kamma 8:7}
JN21:7  {Berakhoth 9:5}
JN21:25 Liberal scholars used to place the writing of the Good-News
        account of Yochanan/John as late as the 3rd or 4th centuries
        AD/Ce. However, we now have parts of Yochanan that were written
        in 130 AD (Rylands MS), along with major portions of the New
        Testament from 200 AD (Beatty Papyri), - showing that Yochanan
        was indeed written by this beloved Talmid of Yeshua toward the
        close of the 1st Century AD/Ce.

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