HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Ewan.Tempero@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Ewan Tempero)
Subject: Re: Manipulation of Referendum Results
Reply-To: Ewan.Tempero@comp.vuw.ac.nz
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:52:18 GMT


In article <BvGrIL.AL0@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, chris@toru.isor.vuw.ac.nz (Chris Johnston) writes:
|> WRONG, WRONG, WRONG !!!!!!
|> 
|> I do believe that 88% of the 48% who voted is 42% of the VOTING population (NOT
|> the NZ pop)!
[more completely valid comments about statistics manipulation deleted]

Answer 1: Those who didn't vote don't deserve (and certainly shouldn't
expect) to be counted.

Answer 2: The politicians do this kind of statistics manipulation
all the time (witness Bolgers claim of "a mandate from the people")
so why can't we?

(not that I'd argue with a statistician or anything :-)

--ewan
-- 
e-mail:	ewan@comp.vuw.ac.nz	Post: Department of Computer Science
Phone:	+64 4 471 5328 x8069	      Victoria University of Wellington
Fax:	+64 4 495 5232		      P.O. Box 600, Wellington, New Zealand
Conjecture: 1+1=1 (plus a small constant)
From: spt@waikato.ac.nz (Simon Travaglia)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Manipulation of Referendum Results
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:11:11 +1300
Organization: Just behind the back of beyond

In article <BvGrIL.AL0@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, chris@toru.isor.vuw.ac.nz (Chris Johnston) writes:
> 
> I noticed the following signoff in a recent article......
> |> 
> |> -- 
> |> Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opted
> |> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
> |> withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            | looks like we may get a more  
> |> **** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".
> 
> 
> WRONG, WRONG, WRONG !!!!!!
> 
> I do believe that 88% of the 48% who voted is 42% of the VOTING population (NOT
> the NZ pop)!

Well, you can't really say that unless you check the number of people who 
ACTUALLY VOTE.  What percentage do we get in a normal election?  65? 80?
This is the real VOTING population.  The number of people in NZ are the
resident voters; the number of people on the rolls are the registered voters,
etc

> ..being offered was favoured by a minority of the voting population!!!
As above

> 90% of the people I have spoken to voted STV. This is probably a product of
> the circles I move in but an interesting point to note is that no one
> discussed the issue beforehand!!! ie Everyone made up their own mind
> independently!!!

independantly of each other, of course.

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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: duncan@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Duncan McEwan)
Subject: Re: Manipulation of Referendum Results
Organization: Comp Sci, Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:16:54 GMT

In article <Bvn5u2.3GL@comp.vuw.ac.nz> chris@tahi.isor.vuw.ac.nz (Chris Johnston) writes:
>I AM INTERESTED IN:
>1) Knowing why people voted MMP over STV.

Because I didn't like either of the two suggested alternatives for
transfering a winning candidates "excess" votes to the other candidates.

In fact, in all the generally available publicity (leaflets, TV current
affairs, etc) all I could find were glib statements along the lines of
"when a candidate has enough votes to pass the Droop quota, their excess
votes are transfered to remaining candidates".  I had to borrow the royal
commissions report from the library to figure out the options.

I also felt (as someone else pointed out earlier) that the disadvantage of STV
suggested by the Irish senator on one of the pre referendum programmes,
that candidates end up competing over purely local affairs, even among
other candidates from their own parties, was a pretty major problem.

Duncan
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: nz.waffle?? (was Re: Hello....hello...is anybody home)
From: richard@nacjack.gen.nz (Richard Vowles)
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:56:07 GMT
Organization: Malleus Maleficarum - Nil Mortifi Sine Lucre


>Are you really this stupid? If you wanted a local newsgroup, why didn't you
>give it a local name, like akl.waffle, or nacjack.waffle (or perhaps
>dorkland.waffle)? Is this really a difficult concept to grasp? Should I have
>called the local PN-based chat newsgroup nz.chat instead of the slightly more
>sensible manawatu.chat?

Because, you irreverant twat, we wanted to pass it onto Wellington, and
possibly Christchurch as well. It started in Auckland as auckland.waffle,
but we had some indications we could pass it down country to other waffle
sites, and so changed it to nz.waffle. This has in fact come about, via
an alternative pathway. I suppose I didn't make my self clear that by local
I ment that we used the local network setup rather than the universities one.



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From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Bogus newsgroups 
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 15:16:22 +1200
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

frey@alfheim.actrix.gen.nz (Bruce Clement) writes:

> In article <P20yRB2w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz write
> >dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz writes:
> >
> >> Unfortunately, the discussion only ended up in comp.sys.atari,
> >> alt.config and nz general, when it should have been posted in
> >> the news.announce.newgroups. Therefore any discusion about it
> >       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >                           Er, that should have been news.groups
> 
> no, this was an alt group, and altnet is not usenet, just shares the same 
> propagation. alt.config *was* the appropriate place for the proposal 
> for alt.znet,,,, to be flamed.


The original intention for znet was to be a comp group, or that's the
way I read the original posting. ( and re-read it a couple of nights
ago - 1year expiry)

On this basis, it should have been discussed in news.groups.
More than likely, it would have received enough support, due to
the pcmag section.



dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
~|~|
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Bogus newsgroups 
Summary: Ooops!
Keywords: Who is this alias dogbowl @ dogbox does it have a name?
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 07:18:36 +1200
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz writes:

> Unfortunately, the discussion only ended up in comp.sys.atari,
> alt.config and nz general, when it should have been posted in
> the news.announce.newgroups. Therefore any discusion about it
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                           Er, that should have been news.groups

                           I guess I shouldn't post at 3am...

> was necessarily limited to a small audience.
>
> [....]
>
> If the alt groups are samples, why hasn't a RFD been posted to
> news.announce.newgroups? Was it simply a matter of you deciding to
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                  Ditto :-)



dogbowl at The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL:alt.znet.fnet, alt.znet.pc
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 16:46:27 +1200
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)


The jabs Jon's been getting must have finally pricked his conscience,
as I found this in alt.config ( Dated 29 Sep - Only about a month after
znet articles first started being sent out....)

jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke, Z*NET Pacific) writes:

>  Greetings,
>  
>  This is a proposal for alt.znet.fnet and alt.znet.pc both news
>  groups associated to the Z*NET ASCII computer magazines found
>  here on the nets and out there in modem land.
>  
>  Z*NET is a free ASCII based magazine for all brands of computers
>  and is produced by Rovac Inc. from New Jersey, USA.   We have
>  writers and editors world-wide all contributing items as they 
>  happen in their countries and presented weekly.  With the inception
>  in the early 80's we now cover topic like 
>  
>   - OS2
>   - Unix
>   - Windows
>   - Mac
>   - Vax/AS400/HP400 and so on and on..
>   - Hardware and reviews of all types.
>  
>  Over the course of the last 6-7 years we have been alined to the Atari
>  world of computers and indeed still produce Atari-Explorer-Online, but
>  we have set up a series of FNET (not FIDO NET) conferences covering
>  all topics and computers.  These conferences have been enjoyed by
>  thousands in North Amercia, Europe and New Zealand. How ever as we
>  now have the technology to gateway these directly into usenet we
>  feel it is time to propose alt.znet.fnet .  Sample traffic indicates
>  an average of 75 messages per day (see not below re alt FAQ).
>  
>  I would like to also take the liberty to propose alt.znet.pc to carry
>  all items relating to the weekly  Z*NET PC International ASCII magazine ie..
>  
>  - Letters to the editor
>  - Letters to the writers
>  - Items of Interest
>  - Z*NET USA
>  - Z*NET Canada
>  - Z*NET United Kingdom
>  - Z*NET Germany
>  - Z*NET Holland
>  - Z*NET Pacific
>  - discussion on items/articles
>  - etc etc.
> 
>  Alone with a sample of each weeks edition of Z*NET PC, free to all 
>  sites who wish to take it. As a small point Z*NET PC International
>  was rated the THIRD best ascii magazine this year (not bad for its 
>  first year of production) world wide.
>  
>  I have not sent out a control message to create these news groups but
>  as per the FAQ in news.newsgroups I have sent samples out for 
>  distribution in the alt.znet.fnet newsgroup. I am glad to see the
>  positive email I have had and thus this posting to alt.config to
>  make these  real alt news groups.
> 
>  Happy reading
> 
>  Jon Clarke
>  Pacific Editor 
>  Z*NET International On-line 
> 
>  :Z*NET PC International is a non-profit making organisation located around
>  :  the world with writers and editors doing it for others all for free.



dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)


Newsgroups: nz.general
Newsgroups: nz.general,nz.netstatus
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: nz.waffle?? (was Re: Hello....hello...is anybody home)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 06:03:52 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Followup-To: nz.netstatus

dgd@kcbbs.gen.nz (David Dix) writes:

> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) says:
>
> >Can we please try and refrain from just creating nz.* groups on an ad-hoc
> >basis? Note that you're doing your users a disservice by treating this
> >newsgroup as valid because it probably appears (outside of junk) at about
> >2 sites nationwide (and is a nz.waffle newsgroup really necessary
> >anyway?).
> 
> [...]
> 
> I'm aware of the existing 'procedures' in nz for the creation of nz.newsgroups
> but these seem rather bothersome to adhere to since there always seems to be
> more existing net.users not interested in anything new. Although it takes
> only 25(?) people to vote yes (or is it 25 more yes votes than nos?) I have
> watched the failure of quite a few attempts at new nz newsgroups.
> More than once I have seen a dozen or more people all fired up and keen to
> get into action in a new newsgroup and then not getting that 25 just dampens
> their enthusiasm and in many cases they just don't bother with nz newsgroups
> again.
> Nearly all of the existing nz newsgroups are just about dead and some have
> not seen messages for months if not years.
> So if there are some people out there in nz.netland that want to say something
> and say it in a new newsgroup then I can see no reason to discourage them.
> Let them create new ad-hoc nz.newsgroups and lets see what they have to say.

If you want to create newsgroups on a completely ad-hoc basis, then I'd
*humbly* suggest that nz isn't the place for them. The nz heirarchy already
has some guidelines for newsgroup creation, if you want to change those then
randomly creating newsgroups to make your point probably isn't the best way to
go about it. If you want have an alternative newsgroup heirarchy where
anything goes, then think up a suitable name (hey, how about 'alt'?[*]), and
go for it. If enough people think it's a good idea, it'll succeed.

While the current system for nz may be a little cumbersome for what is a
fairly small set of newsgroups, I don't think requiring at least 25 people to
want the newsgroup is a bad thing. Personally, I'd argue that if you can't get
that many people to want your group you should be using a mailing list anyway.

							- k

[*] remember, alt is the sort of place where Carasso lives. Do you really want
    that for an nz heirarchy?

-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
"Jub'er lbh pnyyvat n obmb"
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: nz.arts
Subject: looking for fans of rock/metal band Queensryche
Summary: music is art, riiiight?
Keywords: e-mail newsletter
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:04:29 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

I'm looking for anyone in New Zealand who's a fan of the band Queensryche.
So far, I know there are at least three! :)  

I put out a weekly newsletter through e-mail about the band... if anyone is
intersted, drop mail to me at queensryche-request@pilot.njin.net and I'll
send it.

-Shag [Scooby Doo's friend]
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: IBM Terminals, free!
From: rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet)
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:18:47 GMT
Organization: Household UNIX, Auckland, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Free: Approximately 15 IBM pre-1980 terminals. Probably ebcdic, not ascii, but
they do have DB25 serial port connectors. Whether this means they're RS232
compatable is open to debate.

Phone Alistair Webb (not me) on 09-623-2515.

Rabbi
From: htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz (Hamish Tweedie)
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: VGA monitor wanted
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:58:00 PST
Organization: The mad HATter's madhouse

	Has anybody got a VGA monitor they wish to dispose of (nows your
chance to sell up and get a SVGA monitor and card :-)? I'm in the market
for for a VGA monitor, but don't need the extra resolution of a SVGA, so if
you're selling or thinking of selling in the near future, then email me
(note that I'll pay for courier charges from anywhere in NZ).

-- 

|           ///    htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz  Bombora/Ross 780 sailor|
| Taste    ///       OR tweedie_h@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz        | RZ350, R65,|
|= Amiga  ///        OR tweedie@ivory.isor.vuw.ac.nz        | K75S rider.|
|    \\\ /// "Computer programmers were put on Earth to make accountants |
|     \XX//  look interesting!"   "Stretch yourself.........get morphed!"|
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: Items for sale
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 11:22:46 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway. Parnell New Zealand


 Greetings,

 After a major re-organisation and upgrade at status.gen.nz I have the
 following computer and communications items for sale. 

 - 1 x Atari SH205 hard disk unit (With PD 16megs software)      $400

 - 1 x Atari MegaFile 60 hard disk unit                          $800

 - 1 x Spectre 128 Mac emulator                                  $100

 - 1 x Microdeal ST REPLAY sound digitizer                       $100

 - 3 x X25 PADS (2x8 port and 1x12 port)  Dynapac                $150 each

 - 1 x AS400 half case and PSU units (as new)                    $5000

 - Box of ARCNET connetors (4wire type, no cards)                $50

 - 1 x Codex 4 wire sync modem (2325)                            $200


 Please feel free to email me at : jonc@status.gen.nz 
 
 Else ring me on (+649) 358-5589 (home)            
                        367-0800 (work)
      fax        (+649) 302-2672

 I am interested in swapping some of the above items for the following
  
               - 3Com ethernet routers or the likes
               - NE1000 and NE2000 cards
               - 386 / 486 systems or motherboards



                                                  _
 Jon Clarke                                     o( )       
 jonc@status.gen.nz                            /  /\        GE: J.CLARKE6
 The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand      HSBC NZM  EBD
  
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
From: Richard.Darton@vuw.ac.nz (Richard Darton)
Subject: Yes... another wanted to sell. Best value SPORTS CAR around!!
Organization: CSC, Victoria University Wellington
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:22:19 GMT

Hi,

I have a Toyota Celica Supra XX car for sale. It is a 1981, the square body, 
not the old rounded one, 2.8 litre 6 cly injected engine with the following 
features:

	- power steering.
	- automatic air condition.
	- 5 speed manual gearbox.
	- good stereo and speakers.
	- full electronic dash.
	- electric windows.
	- electric mirrors.
	- automatic cruise control.
	- good tyres.
	- mag wheels.
	- blowing a completely white pipe, (i.e. excellant engine).
	- white with black trim.
	- pop-up head lights.
	- excellant condition.
	- I can't remember the rest, come and see it...

Now why am I selling this wounderful car, I have bought a new one, more 
boring, slower and family-ish, and need to sell this one. I have talked to 
a few dealers and they reckon I should advertise it for about $8,500  
to $9,000 but in order to sell it quickly its available for $6,500 ono. Must 
be sold before the 12/10/92.
I can be contacted as below.

Thanks

RAD

E-mail richard.darton@vuw.ac.nz
Ph. 495-5091 Bus. }answer machines are on at both these numbers if I'm out.
Ph. 565-0944 Hme. }
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: Jim Steinman LP wanted
From: rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet)
Date: 4 Oct 92 11:18:29 GMT
Organization: Household UNIX, Auckland, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I'm after a copy of Bad for Good, by Jim Steinman.

I know it's crap - I like psychotronic music. Set me on fire and call me a bad
boy.

--
Rabbi Bajzheet - The Hooded Oesophagus   __o `God needs food, badly!'
Usenet: rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz             _`\<,_   - Friedrich Nietzsche
Snail: 12 St Aubyn St, Devonport, AK (_)/ (_) Voice: +64 09 445-1186
Newsgroups: nz.comp
From: Richard.Darton@vuw.ac.nz (Richard Darton)
Subject: Chinese Wordprocessor
Organization: CSC, Victoria University Wellington
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:21:21 GMT

Hi,

I have had an enquiry for a Chinese wordprocessor, I remember reading 
something somewhere about this package. Would anyone out-there who could 
provide any information on such a beast please E-mail me on richard.darton@
vuw.ac.nz Thanks in advance.

Cheers

RAD
From: brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz (Roger Brockie)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: NeXt
Date: 29 Sep 1992 11:41:11 +1200
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wellington, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: golem.wcc.govt.nz


Does anyone know if NeXt (I hope I case the case right)
computers are sold in NZ ?  And if so by whom.

Roger

-- 
Roger Brockie, System Manager			      Computer Services Section
brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz                               Wellington City Council
Telephone +64 4 8013350                                           P.O.Box 2199, 
PSI 0530147000090                                       Wellington, New Zealand
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: NeXt
Date: 29 Sep 1992 07:53:12 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

>
>Does anyone know if NeXt (I hope I case the case right)
>computers are sold in NZ ?  And if so by whom.
>
>Roger

I think its the N0. 1 Software company...??

Roger.........                  sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Kodak and Apple to Work Together
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:53:44 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I've received a copy of a press release announcing various cooperative efforts
between Apple and Kodak. If you leave out the PRese, here's what it appears
they intend to do:

* Apple will add support to QuickTime to allow access to images stored in
Kodak's Photo CD format. Photo CD is a method for storing photographic-quality
images on write-once CD-ROMs. It can also be a multimedia format, apparently,
with sound and interactive branching capabilities ("Photo CD Portfolio"). There
are also versions targeted at professional photographic and medical imaging
applications.

* Apple has bought colour electrophotographic printing technology from Kodak.
This should be appearing in future printers from Apple.

* Kodak will be using Macintoshes in its "retail imaging workstations", where
you can go to create your own Photo CD Portfolio discs.

* Kodak has announced its "Professional Image Library". This uses a Photo CD
jukebox hooked to a Mac, with retrieval software, to give you access to a huge
on-line library of digital images. Then there's something called the "Kodak
Picture Exchange" (KPX), which appears to be some kind of on-line network for
connecting to imaging services.

The press release says "Plans are currently being prepared for the introduction
of selected elements [to the NZ market] in mid 1993." If you want more info,
here are the people to contact in NZ:

  Ken Goody, Kodak New Zealand Limited, ph (09) 377-8950, fax (09) 308-9233
  Roger Braem, CED Distributors Limited, ph (09) 309-9930, fax (09) 309-3572

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
To someone with a hammer and a screwdriver, every problem looks
like a nail with threads.
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Telebit T2500 modem
From: dgd@kcbbs.gen.nz (David Dix)
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:07:36 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, NZ

Over the last 4 weeks I have obtained a few Telebit modems, models T2000 and
T2500 types. The T2000 is a Trailblazer+ PEP type modem but the T2500 is
supposed to support PEP and V32.
The only manuals I managed to get are T2000 specific.
These T2500s seem to have only been used in PEP mode as they behave
identically to the T2000 in that they answer with PEP tones then step to
2400 baud v22bis answer tones. I cannot get any of the T2500s to respond to
v32 tones.
I know the solution is to get a T2500 manual and I have sent to Telebit USA
for one but that was near 3 weeks ago and I'm getting impatient.

Question is how do I enable the v32 answer mode on the T2500. What are the
registers that control v32?
Better still what are the complete set of register settings so that the T2500
will recognise PEP _and_ v32.
The ideal situation would be to have the PEP tones answer first, followed by
v32, then v22bis, v22 etc..
Also does the T2500 support MNP?, the T2000 supports up to MNP3 but does the
T2500 go to MNP4, MNP5 or higher?

Any help gratefully appreciated :-)

                                                               *
dgd@kcbbs.gen.nz (David Dix), Fidonet 3:772/90.
ZL1UZC (bbs on 144.75 Pac Comm 1200)                     k *      *
Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, NEW ZEALAND.                   .
Ph.9817-3725/3714/5569 v32/v42bis/MNP5
   9817-3094/8424 v32bis/v42bis/MNP5                          *
   9817-3324/3393 v22bis/PEP/MNP3