HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC)
Subject: Re: San Jose Mercury News and San Francisco Chronicle
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:14:55 GMT


Here is what I do with ALL phone solicitations, it works all the time:
As soon as I suspect that the call IS a solicitation
(takes an average of 3 seconds), then when the person pauses,
for whatever reason, I say very politely, "no thanks",  
and hang up.  Do not even pause to listen to there response to
your "no thanks".  

This is neither here nor there really:
I had a roommate once that loved to argue.  He'd argue so much,
about such inane things, that nobody could stand to talk with him.  
He just loved arguing for the sake of arguing.  Argue, argue, argue.
Anyway, it cracked me up when a solicitor called, he'd be so happy,
because he'd have a victim to argue with for a while, at least until
the poor solicitor could find a reason to hang up.

chow!
John S. Watson, Civil Servent from Hell          ARPA: watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov

HOMEBREW NAKED! --- Ursus cerevisiae nudium  (The Bare Beer Bear)
All right, then, I'll GO to hell"  --- Mark Twain
From: pete@galaxy.nsc.com
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Used records/CD stores??
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:26:59 GMT
Distribution: ba, ca
Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara
Originator: pete@krypton.nsc.com

Hi,
     Just wondering if anybody has any suggestions for good
used records/CD stores in the Bay Area.  I've been to all
the usual retail stores, (i.e. Tower, Music Plus, Wherehouse)
and have been to AB-CD Exchange, and the Record Barn.  But
nothing that great.
     Thanks for any suggestions.

Pete
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Where to Take Parents? Suggestions, please!
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:08:56 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul27.224416.24716@indetech.com>
|They have never been to Tahoe, but since they don't gamble much, and
|aren't really physically active, I'm not sure Tahoe would be a good choice.
|Seems like all the stuff ya do in Tahoe involves horseback riding, 
|bicycling, hiking, or water sports. (Mom doesn't swim). I know there is
|a little cruise boat, but that activity is only a few hours long. After
|that, what? (They walk around just fine...no wheelchairs or canes or
|anything...they just aren't capable of outdoor sports that are strenuous).

The nice thing about Tahoe is you don't *have* to do anything.  The scenery
is spectacular enough as it is.  A few things off the top of my head though.

Emerald Bay - one of the most photographed places anywhere.  You don't
*have* to hike to Vikingsholm.  It's a beautiful place.

Tram ride at Heavenly - ride the tram to the restaurant at Heavenly Valley.
The view is incredible from the deck.  I think Squaw Valley also runs their
tram during the summer.

Dinner cruise - the sunset paddleboat cruise may only take a few hours but
it does make a real nice evening.  There are several of them available.  I`ve
taken the one out of Zephyr Cove and had a good time.

Take a drive - the drive around west lake blvd is real nice, as is a complete
loop around the lake.  You could also drive over to Hope valley (hwy 89 
towards Kirkwood or Markleeville.  You could drive out to Blue Lakes basin
from Hope valley.  It's about 11 miles, most of it graded gravel.  Upper
and lower blue lake are very pretty.

Virginia City -  Virginia city is a old, old town with wooden sidewalks "up
the mountain" near Carson city.  It's kind of a tourist trap but it's 
quite interesting.

Reno - known more for the gambling but I've heard the Harrah's auto museum
is worth the trip.  The shows are pretty good at the Casinos.  Chances are
you might find a good show at South Lake Tahoe as well.


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+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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From: richg@hatch.socal.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Airfares
Keywords: airfares airlines flying tickets airplanes sex
Organization: Hatch Usenet and E-mail.  Playa del Rey, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:32:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.203220.13045@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa) writes:

>In any event, does anyone know where I can find some discounted
>airfares?  I called up a couple of the airlines, and it seems that prices
>are in the $420-$490 range for a RT ticket between nEWaRk, NJ/LGA (Aug 13)
>and OAKland/SFO, CA (return Aug 24).  I was wondering if anyone knows of any
>trustworthy places at which I could get tickets for a somewhat reduced price
>(in the ~$350 range).  Thanks...

Look in your nearest large city (SF in your case I suspect) sunday paper's
travel section.  You will find lits of tiny ads which are a list of citys and
prices.  Most are overseas, but you will find some for SFO-NY at around $350.

These are consolidators, who buy in bulk from the airlines and resell.
Sometimes you can't get a seat selection until you get to the gate, and
sometimes no FF miles.  Some don't take credit cards.  Ask.

-- 
                
Rich Greenberg - N6LRT - 310-649-0238 - richg@hatch.socal.com
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From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Raccoons?!
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:43:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.221255.13918@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> rfrench@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert S. French) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.150731.24822@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>>Call the Humane Society of Santa Clara County.  They'll put you in
>>touch with the folks who have the raccoon traps.  I think you have to
>>reserve one ahead of time.
>
>Actually, what happens now when you call the SC Humane Society is you
>descend into Voice Mail Hell.  ("Press 1 for spay or neuter, 2 for
>lost pets, 3 for found pets, 4 for pets that you want to lose but were
>found anyway, 5 for rats under 5 pounds, 6 for rats between 5 and 20
>pounds, 7 for ...")

What, they didn't let you order a road pizza?  (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

The voice mail must be new.  I talked to a humanoid.

Charleen


  I finally found raccoons under "wilderness
>control" (it took me 4 calls since you can't back out of a menu) and
>they had this little peppey talk about how raccoons are living in our
>society and isn't that just peachy.  They said to put cayenne pepper
>outside to fend them off.  No mention of traps, and no obvious method
>of talking to a human.
>
>So, not having any cayenne pepper, last night I put curry powder
>outside.  No sign of them yet...
>
>			Rob


--
I love to go to the park and watch the little kids jumping around --
because they don't know I'm using blanks. -- Emo Philips
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Rennaisance Faire in September?
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:33:38 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <92211.25325.6175190@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> 6175190@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>>>First, Thank you for the great list of festivals!
>>>
>>>Second, any background on why the Ren. Faire is in September instead of August
>>>I wondered why I hadn't seen any PR on it. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>'Cause that's when it always is.
>>
>>Greg
>>
>Is Now, hasn't always been! :-) But you're probably too young to remember!:-)
 
You mean back when you didn't have to take a second mortgage on the house
to get in, and when all the performers didn't hate the organizers?
 
Greg
From: zio@garg.Campbell.CA.US (Zio zZz)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Pinball venues?
Keywords: ding bang whoop
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 12:25:16 PDT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Land of Garg

dec@netcom.com (Dennis Chapman) writes:

>   Every once in a while I get the urge to pump some money into a pinball
> game.  Any suggestions on some venues in the south bay which provide a
> good variety of games?  I know of the Keystone at Bowers & El Camino.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dennis
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> dec@netcom.com           Listen with your eyes, see with your ears.
> Dennis Chapman                                          - Ken Kesey
> -------------------------------------------------------------------

Without a second thought, Galaktican Arcade in what is known as "Westgate 
West" is my absolute recommendation for pinball.  For starters, they are on 
a token system, which works as follows:
 
                     $ 0.25  -  1 token
                     $ 1.00  -  6 tokens
                     $ 5.00  -  32 tokens (6.4 tokens per $)
                     $10.00  -  68 tokens (6.8 tokens per $)
                     $20.00  - 145 tokens (7.25tokens per $)
 
Plus, if you go between 6PM and 7PM weekdays, or 10AM and 11AM weekends, you 
get 2 additional tokens per dollar spent - no limit!
 
If that isn't enough, there is also Club Galaktican, where for $6.00 you get 
a Galaktican T-Shirt, plus $2.00 in tokens, therefore the cost of the shirt 
is 4 bucks.  From that day on, the first dollar you spend in a day, gets you 
4 free tokens right there on the spot, IF, of course, you are wearing your 
shirt.
 
In addition to the pins, they also have some of the best modern AND older 
video games ever made.  For a LONG time, they even had Tempest (a long time 
fave of mine), but it finally outlived its physical lifetime...a sad moment.
But check this place out!!!  NO place beats the play per $ ratio of this 
place!!
 
To get to Galaktican, enter the lot as if you were going to go to Payless 
Supermarket.  There is an alley type road between Orchard Supply Hardware 
and Ethan Allen/Payless.  It is the second to last place on the right, 
between Masako's Hair Salon, and The Huddle.
 

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		Zio zZz		zio@garg.Campbell.CA.US			
		Land of Garg BBS -- (408) 378-5108
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From: nakayama@erg.sri.com (Dave Nakayama)
Subject: Which newspaper to get?
Originator: nakayama@tiger.sri.com
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 01:16:43 GMT

I'm new to the Bay Area and have just moved into an apartment in Fremont. I'm
not certain of which newspaper to subscribe.

I've narrowed my choices to the SF Chronicle
				SF Examiner
				SJ Mercury News
				Argus

I'm looking for a quality newspaper from front page up to the classifieds.  I
think I'm one of the few who actually reads most of the paper, including the
front section, business, sports, comics, and "style/scene/living" sections. 
Since I'm new to the area, national news is more important to me than local
news.  And I'd prefer an afternoon paper but would be willing to let it sit
all day if it's significantly better than the other papers.

My initial impression:  Argus is a superlocal paper that I don't need.
			SF Examiner is more 'tabloidish' than the Chronicle,
			   but it comes in the afternoon. -its comic section
			   really needs help.
			Chronicle gives up color for more substance. It's in
			   the morning, but it has better (if fewer) comics.
			The SJ Merc News has supercomics but concentrates a
			   lot on Silicon Valley (surprise).

I'd appreciate your impressions/opinions/etc.  Post responses or e-mail me
if you think this is a waste of bandwidth.

-------------------------
Dave Nakayama
david_nakayama@qm.sri.com
nakayama@erg.sri.com
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: House plants at wholesale prices?
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:08:51 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

Used to be, once upon a time, back in the good old days, before
sliced bread, if one wanted to get healthy house plants at really
good prices, one went to Zen in Mountain View.

Unfortunately, Zen was a casualty of the 237 expansion (which,
ironically, still hasn't happened).  They may have moved somewhere, but
I never found out where.

Is there anywhere in the Greater Bay Area and beyond where I can
get house plants at wholesale prices?   I'm willing to drive
a couple of hours from Mountain View for a good source.  I've tried
Sally Socolich's _Bargain Hunting in the Bay Area_, but there isn't
much there.

Thanks,
Charleen

--
I'm not short.  I'm vertically-challenged.
From: wdavies@netcom.com (Wyn Davies)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: ba.market.misc
Summary: Sony Handycam for sale
Keywords: Sony Handycam for sale
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:26:52 GMT
Distribution: y
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

For Sale:

Sony Handicam TR-4

Extra 2hr battery and carrying bag included.

Used only a couple of times.

Asking $550 or best offer.

Wyn Davies
415-390-8220 (work)
408-736-4368 (home)
From: cknudson@Auspex.COM (Cliff Knudson)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: BEST DAY FOR GARLIC FESTIVAL?
Keywords: garlic,festival,gilroy
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:01:29 GMT
Distribution: ba


	I have never been to the garlic festival, but was wondering
if anyone can give me any info on what is the best day to go or any
other info. All responses are greatly appreciated!  Thanks.


-- 
   Cliff Knudson    San Jose, Ca.    408-492-0900     cknudson@auspex.com
 
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From: wiemert@tara.esd.sgi.com (Christopher Wiemert)
Subject: RADIO for Sale
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:14:21 GMT



   NAKAMICHI AM/FM Stereo Clock Radio TM-1 & (TM-2 stereo companion)

-  Digital Quartz PLL tuning, 4 AM, 4 FM presets
-  BI-directional time setting, dual alarm, battery back-up
-  Seperate Bass, Treble, balance controls, dials, (no sliders)
-  AM/FM external antenna connections, stereo /mono switch
-  Automatic loudness adjust for listening at low levels
-  Stereo headphone jack, ramp-up alarm volume, radio or buzzer
-  6 minute snooze, 60 minute or less sleep timer
-  auto light sensor adjusts display to room lighting
-  Excellent audio quality and good sensitivity for a clock radio

   TM-2 Stereo Companion speaker is a seperate unit that matches the TM-1

-  The TM-2 is required for stereo sound
-  TM-2 connects to TM-1 with 18ft. of cable
-  TM-2 has seperate clock/alarm display, on/off switch for radio/alarm
-  Display can be turned of so TM-2 serves as speaker only, not as clock
-  Both units are black in color and look good. This is not the average
   clock radio. it is the Ultimate Stereo Clock Radio.

   receipt, original boxes, manuals, etc. MINT condition. I paid $139.00
   for the TM-1 and $89.00 for the TM-2. selling as a set only: 
  
   Asking $125.00 for both
   

   Christopher Wiemert
   Silicon Graphics
   Mountain View, Ca.
   (415) 390-1242 or
   1-800-488-1414 or
   wiemert@tara.esd.sgi.com
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Thinking of having a garage sale?
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:00:23 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul21.231857.13459@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
|-Watch out for shoplifters.  I'm serious.  You run into the most
| audacious people at garage sales.  A <ethnic> woman stole some floppies
| from a sale I had one time, then came back later to bargain for more
| stuff.  When I pointed out that I knew she had stolen my things,
| she suddenly "lost" her English and couldn't understand a word I was
| saying.

The same goes true if you bring stuff to the flea market.  When you pull in
there is a large group of people that hit each truck as you pull in looking
for specific items.  You can usually find them selling these items at a mark
up in their space.  I have a friend that goes to the flea market quite often
and she told me that people have ripped her off several times.  She can't 
very well go chasing someone down either or she'll come back to a empty 
truck.


>Q: What would Elvis be doing if he was alive today?
>A: Scratching at the lid of his coffin.

They've decided to merge the "old elvis" stamp with the "new elvis" stamp,
putting them side by side, and to use the stamp in the war against drugs.
Under the old elvis it will say "This is your body" and under the "new (and
larger) Elvis" it will say "This is your body on drugs".
-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Gilroy Garlic Festival
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:18:50 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1873@coyote.UUCP> drake@drake.almaden.ibm.com (Sam Drake) writes:
>From San Jose, another transportation option is to take the number 68 bus.
>This bus goes down Santa Teresa Boulevard to Morgan Hill, then switches
>over to Monterey Road to Gilroy.  It literally takes you to a spot
>2 easy blocks from the main gate.  Beats getting in the 101 gridlock!

OK.  I'll share my little secret.  

Take Almaden Expressway to McKean Rd. (near the end).  McKean winds through
the hills past Calero Reservoir. Stay to the right at the Chesboro Reservoir
turn off, and continue past Uvas Reservoir.  In awhile you'll hit an
intersection.  Left takes you to Morgan Hill, you want to go right.  A few
miles furthur and you hit Hecker Pass Rd.  Make a left and in about two
miles you'll hit Santa Theresa.  Make a right and the entrance to the garlic
festival parking lot is a mile or so up the road.  Not only is there no
traffic on this road but it is also fairly scenic.  If you ride a motorcycle
it`s a nice road for a bike and the motorcycle parking is right up next to
the entrance in the parking lot.

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
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From: LJ03933@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Nissan Major Service
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:03:50 GMT

>ARTICLE ba.general:4333
>From: mitchb@netcom.com (Mitch Browne)

>Hello Folks,

>I have a generic 4cyl Nissan Pickup that is due for the 30k major soon.
>I was uncomfortable letting this thing go 30k with only oil changes,
>tire rotations, and one air filter change, but that is what was recommended.

>Anyhow I am open to any suggestions for dealers or services which you might
>ave had happy (if there's such a thing) experiences with.  Also, could
>nyone relate what a major entails?

>Thanks. Mitch

I recently took my '91Toyota truck to a place in Mountain View which deals
only in certain imports (Japanese I think). The truck was overdue so they
recommended the 30k 'special'. I know next to nothing about cars/trucks but
I think it was pretty good service. There was a whole list of things including
flush the radiator, coolant system, and transmission, change the oil/filter,
plugs, rotate tires, align front end... that's all I can recall at this time.
The total cost (told up front, including price and labor, less tax) was $279.
What impressed me was the next day I noticed a few extras... they had replaced
the nuts and bolts on the liscence plates (I'd lost one up fron and one on the
back), refilled the water for the windshield, and replaced some missing tire
caps, no extra charge. It seems to me that is they do all those little things
there's a good chance that the rest of the work was well done.
(a.k.a. attention to detail?) Anyways, the name of the place is Yarnell's
on the corner of Evelyn and Pioneer in Mountain View.

Good Luck...         TKJ
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From: shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller)
Subject: Re: San Jose Mercury News and San Francisco Chronicle
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 07:03:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Jul20.174541.15672@cylink.COM> tedh@cylink.COM (Ted Hadley) writes:
>
>Solution is simple. Tell them you have already subscribed. Then they will
>leave you alone. Yes, it happened to me a year ago and it worked then....
>
I think it must have to do with who you get or something.  I was
harrassed by the Mercury News a couple of years ago: got calls several
times a month for *months*.  Every time they would call, I would tell
them that I already subscribed (which was true).  I got to the point
where I told them that if they didn't stop calling, I would unsubscribe.
That didn't pack much punch, though, because it was my roommate's paper,
and he refused to unsubscribe.

They kept calling.

Finally, one day, I just got fed up, and told the telemarketer person that
I wanted the circulation manager's phone number so I could call and cancel
my subscription.  She refused.  I told her I wanted to talk to her manager,
so that I could get the phone number to call and cancel my subscription.  She
got her manager on the phone, who apologized profusely.  I told him the whole
sordid story, and said "If I get one more phone call from anyone on the
Mercury News staff, I don't care what the reason is, I will cancel the
subscription, never subscribe again, and consult a lawyer."

They haven't called again.

I don't subscribe anymore, and every time I think about it, I remember
the treatment I got, and think "well, I don't really read the paper that
much, anyway".

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From: lzs@indetech.com ()
Subject: Where to Take Parents? Suggestions, please!
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:44:16 GMT

My parents (in their early 70s) will be visiting from New Jersey
in about a week. They will be with me (in Sunnyvale) for two weeks.
During that time, it will be their 45th anniversary.

My husband and I want to do something nice for them (e.g., take them
out for a nice weekend somewhere in the Bay area) but aren't sure
what to do.

They have never been to Tahoe, but since they don't gamble much, and
aren't really physically active, I'm not sure Tahoe would be a good choice.
Seems like all the stuff ya do in Tahoe involves horseback riding, 
bicycling, hiking, or water sports. (Mom doesn't swim). I know there is
a little cruise boat, but that activity is only a few hours long. After
that, what? (They walk around just fine...no wheelchairs or canes or
anything...they just aren't capable of outdoor sports that are strenuous).

They have already been to Yosemite, Carmel, Monterray, Marin County, and
will be going to San Francisco a bunch of times when they visit.

We had also thought of putting them up at a nice, moderately priced hotel
in San Francisco, so they can have a nice "city" weekend without having
to take Caltrain all the way back to us in Sunnyvale.

Have you been in a similar spot? If so, what have you done? Please 
email me with any suggestions you may have. 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Lynn

(lzs@indetech.com)


-- 
Lynn Schneider              lzs@indetech.com
{sun,sharkey,pacbell}!indetech!lzs
Fremont, CA
From: csh@kahn.ced.berkeley.edu (Chuck Han)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Gilroy Garlic Festival
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:48:07 GMT
Organization: University of California
NNTP-Posting-Host: kahn.ced.berkeley.edu

Is it this weekend?
--

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	  *** Department of Architecture, The Building Process ***
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