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From: bgg@pta.pyramid.com.au (Ben Golding)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Newspaper says "Alcohol the culprit in drug-related crime"
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:22:53 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Sydney, Australia

I came across this article and I thought it might interest readers
because it echoes so strongly one of the main themes that has run
through discussions on usenet for a long time.  It's nice to see that
the press and judicial authorities are starting to see what's going on.

	Ben.
--

Taken from The Australian, Dec 24, 1992 (without permission)

Alcohol the culprit in drug-related crime

by Rohan Sullivan

Alcohol causes more drug related crime, particularly violent crime,
than illicit drugs such as heroin and cannabis, analysis by the
Australian Institute of Criminology shows.

The public perception "hard" drugs and violence go hand-in-hand is
unfounded, with Australians more likely to be affected by violence
which was alcohol-related than violence associated with illicit drugs,
which were mostly "income-generated", the report released this week
says.

Research shows alcohol abuse costs the community as much as $6 billion
a year and is generally accepted to be linked to violent crimes such as
assault, as well as drink-driving, fraud, arson and sex crimes.

Disorderly conduct figures record drunkeness [sic] as the most common
offence of the 20th century, says the report, which examined drug
research from around the world and Australian crime statistics.

The legal availability of alcohol and its acceptance in virtually all
age and social groups means it is the "pre-eminent" crime-causing drug
in Australia.

"In quantative terms, the drugs-crime problem is really an
alcohol-crime problem," the report says.

The report, commissioned by the South Australian Coalition Against
Crime Working Group on Alcohol, Drugs and Crime for the State
Attorney-General's Department, will be used to assist development of
crime prevention policies.

The report says crimes influenced by alcohol appear to be related to
the drug's "disinhibiting" effect, which stimulates feelings of
confidence and exuberance often accompanied by uncontrolled mood
swings.

"It is considered that amphetamine, PCP, barbituates and some
alcohol-drug mixtures -- the drugs which are said to have a
pharmacological connection to violent behaviour -- need human volition
before the violent behaviours associated with these drugs is
manifested."
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: A Visit With Alexander Shulgin (long)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 22:23:06 GMT
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

=)

I got to visit w/him for awhile over christmas break...  I don't have
the time to type everything in like you did, but I had roughly the
same experiences...

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 7 Jan 1993 00:12:06 EST
From: Jason Chase <IO92404@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: looking for Timothy Leary

A friend of mine has is doing research on a VR project and would like to
get in contact with Dr. Leary.  Any info regarding his email address
or location would be appreciated.

J. Chase
University of Maine
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 1993 15:40:18 -0500 
From: Michel Fougeres <mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: War on Drugs Project

The baseline is this:  I'm doing a project on the War on Drugs through the
1960s to present.  I need help though, I need information.  If any of you
have specific information pertaining to this subject (if it has a source you
can give me, not just word of mouth, but thanks for the effort), I would
greatly appreciate it.  Also, I would also appreciate any sources
(books, articles, etc with statistics whatnot) that could be listed that
you could give to me.  I already know about the washington.u FTP site
and have gotten that info.
Thanks for your time.
Ian -- Mass agreement is the true substance of reality.  (friend's account)
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Why Marines like LSD...
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:54:29 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <malcolm.726353802@wrs.com>, malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>Seeing the military reference reminded me - a few years ago I heard from a
>friend in the military, I think a Marine, though I seem to recall he was 
>talking about being shipbound - according to him the drug of choice in
>the military was doing LSD! 

The drugs of choice in the military are alcohol and nicotine.  LSD may be
the *illegal* drug of choice...

>The reasoning was that it was harder to detect
>that pot or other things. Somehow the idea of a bunch of guys stuck on 
>a ship with a pile of weapons tripping their gonads off sorta scares me...

And the idea of them drunk off their asses scares me.  But I trust they
aren't that irresponsible.  People With Lives (TM) don't use debilitating
drugs on the job.

>For that matter, the idea of anyone willing to commit to the military 
>doing LSD sorta scares me.

Does it scare you any more than anyone willing to commit to the military
in the first place?  :^)

I used to know a guy who was in ROTC.  I would see "DROP ACID NOT BOMBS"
spraypainted in the dorm elevator now and then, but it wasn't until years
later that I found out it was him.  *That* kinda scared me.  Would he be a
loyal soldier?  Then again, it might have been just a big trip-joke (done
off duty, of course).  

I wonder if acid would work on the enemy.  "Saddam Hussein, prepare to see
God!"

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Mon,  4 Jan 1993 13:23:30 -0500 
From: "Bartley R. Troyan" <bt26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide Dosage

bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler) writes...
 
> and is relatively non-toxic in small doses.  You have to suck 
> the gas out of three or four cans before it has any 
> appreciable effects.
 
Uh...I think less than three or four cans is sufficient.  On a recent
shopping trip, a friend and I both bought a regular-sized can of
whipped cream (generic, to save a little $$$).  I took a small drag at
first because some whipped cream decided to fly out of the can into
my lungs with the nitrous.  No noticeable effects.  On the second,
much larger drag which I assume finished off the nitrous in the can, I
almost immediately had a "zooming out" effect (like looking through a
telephoto lens while turning it).  My ears rang for about a minute,
and I was quite stunned and couldn't say much except "B-boy, th-this
is weeiird..." In a minute though I felt almost completely normal,
though a little more relaxed than before.

Of course, maybe I didn't experience the full effects, just a mild version
thereof.

--Bart
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:21:11 GMT
Summary: Acid in OJ, or maybe a swimming pool? 

-----[stuff deleted to save bandwidth]-----
>>
>>        If you put it in a glass of OJ, they'd weigh the OJ.
> 
>What happens if you drop it into your home swimming pool?
> 
>These things can be carried to extremes...and I'm sure that if 
>they tried to claim that your pool was filled with hits of 
>acid, you'd actually have the courts on YOUR side...
> 
>Of course, you'd win in criminal court, but they'd seize the 
>house and the pool because it was involved in a criminal act: 
>making DEA agents look silly...
> 
     One question though (truthfully and sincerely), what WOULD happen if
you dumped a bit of acid in a swimming pool, or maybe something smaller like
a Hot-Tub before a little party?  Would people start tripping from it, or 
would it not have any effect because of the acid to water ratio, or would
you actually have to drink the water or have an open wound or something?  Or
would it just travel right through the skin?  Just curious.  

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris)
Subject: Re: drug dog
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:08:57 GMT

wayne@mathematik.uni-Bremen.de (Wayne Tvedt) writes:

>Diva (Diva@f729.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca) wrote:
>>Well the drug dog won't catch you with LSD...its about the only drug that is
>>almost totally undetectable.

>  But be careful -- the dogs are trained to sniff out not the acid itself,
>but the strychnine.  So, if you want to set up some "false positives"
>around your school or workplace, try smearing some strychnine on napkins, 
>thermoses, telephone receivers, etc, you know, the types of places where
>people hide LSD.  You will of course need some DMSO to make the strychnine
>bond to smooth surfaces.

Careful. You forgot the smiley. Kids sometimes take this stuff seriously
you know? Lost smiley   (-:


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dmandl@shearson.com (David Mandl)
Subject: Re: Derek Bailley (sp?)
Reply-To: dmandl@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:41:05 GMT

In article 9202@midway.uchicago.edu, bagg@ellis.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott) writes:
>Can anyone tell me anything about the career or recordings of Derek Bailley?
>I understand he records on a label called Incus in England.  I saw Henry
>Kaiser rave about him in a magazine a while back, and, while I am not
>crazy about Kaiser's own work, I think he has excellent taste in music.
>I have seen two different CDs by Bailley at Amoeba Records in Berkeley.
>The titles escape me, but one was just guitar and drums, while the other
>was guitar and percussion.  I know that's a vague description, but perhaps
>it rings a bell with someone?  If not, is there anything I should look
>out for by him?
>
>     --Matt
>

Why exactly did you post this to alt.drugs????  alt.music.progressive
would be more appropriate and would probably get you a bunch of responses.
I'm a fan of Bailey's, but I have no idea what he's been doing recently.
FYI, he's a pioneering experimental guitarist, an improvisor, from
England, and is very well respected in that scene.  He's been around quite
a while and has played on many records; I bet someone in a.m.p has a
discography or at least more recent info than I have.

   --Dave.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: journeyman@spliff.demon.co.uk (Andy Settle)
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD 
Distribution: world
Organization: Journeyman Limited
Reply-To: journeyman@spliff.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:46:47 +0000

In article <1993Jan10.173453.18303@news.cs.indiana.edu> alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu writes:

>I always understood that you had to have some entry point.  That can
>be a cut, a scrape, or a mucous membrane where the substance can
>enter.  If there was no contact like that, you'd have to have a
>chemical carrier to take it "through" the skin.  

That reminds me - didn't Aldous Huxley take LSD-25 with the aid of an
eye dropper on his death bed, could be another urban myth :-(

-- 
          Andy 'Journeyman' Settle: "Make tea not war."

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Xref: sparky alt.drugs:20850 alt.magick:6748 alt.pagan:15264 talk.abortion:55257
From: bowman@reed.edu (BoBolicious)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: looking for information on abortifacents
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:09:54 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1it2r2INNl1s@hpscit.sc.hp.com> dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
>Absolutely, totally false. Abortion by various procedures (the most common
>being D&C) does NOT _frequently_ have life-threatening complications. Such
>complications are extremely rare; so much so, that giving birth has a
>higher mortality rate for the pregnant woman than a first trimester
>abortion. Please get your facts straight, and try not let your emotions
>generate facts that do not exist.

Indeed.  I know a retired physician who performs abortions for a local
Planned Parenthood.  The last time I saw him, he was bragging about having
performed his *4000th* abortion.  4000 abortions without a single life-
threatening complication.  He's probably a better-than-average doctor, but
still 4000 is alot without any problems.

cheers,
bobo              In seeking the unattainable,
bowman@reed.edu            simplicity only gets in the way.
"On Monday, numbers floated everywhere, and the world was full of 
approximations."  -- Spencer Heinz, _The Oregonian_, 1/5/93
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:39:41 GMT

jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:

:    In a nutshell: at least pack them air-tight, especially LSD as it is so
: sensitive to oxidisers and light.
: 
:    By the way, I recall reading somewhere that drug dogs can smell a drug
: hidden in an air-tight container in a full gasoline tank. This is a little
: hard to believe.

Yep - it is false. They can only do so much - they are not supernatural.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Kid on 48 Hours
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 21:45:39 GMT

rbb3w@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Robert B. Bohn) writes:

>About that kid on 48 Hours who unfortunately mailed the LSD to his *friend*,
>I'm assuming that the guy was out-of-state. So that being the case, would his 
>punishment be necessarily different had he mailed it to somebody that lived
>in the same state? I know that once you cross state lines, the Feds start
>to get in the action.

Actually, I think the problem was that he mailed it by U.S. Mail in the
first place.  Since the U.S. Mail is a means of interstate commerce, the
goverment, through incredibly wide interpretation of the interstate
commerce regulation clause of the Constitution, can consider anything
mailed to be within the realm of interstate commerce and regulate it.

If you'd like to see a blow by blow account of how the drug laws developed
in the U.S., check out R.L. Miller's book "The Case For Legalizing Drugs".
It gives, in pretty gory detail, how the interstate commerce clause was
warped to make drug prohibition laws constitutional.  Every drug law in
effect now has its roots in the 1914 Harrison Narcotics Act.

-- 
*davE*   Making the world safe for intelligent dance music.  dave@bradley.edu.
########## David L. Vessell -- Bradley University Computing Services #########
Your shame is neverending. Just one psychological drama after another.-Erasure
From: bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (William E. White )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Absinthe
Keywords: absinthe wormwood Pernod
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:52:46 GMT
Organization: Ohio University, Computer Science Department

In article <dlr.726602887@well.sf.ca.us> dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette) writes:
>The main psychoactive ingrediant of absinthe is ETOH, ethyl alcohol or
>ethanol.

I don't think that's what was wanted.  The main psychoactive ingredient
of absinthe, other than EtOH, are, I believe, thujone and thujene.  I
remember reading somewhere that they were agonists for the proposed
cannabinoid receptor, but are neurotoxic.


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: an3886@anon.penet.fi (Toker)
Subject: N2O Popper's and More
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:24:07 GMT

I just recieved a handy amount of N2O canisters (50 or so) but dont have a
Popper (i do believe thats what they were called back in states) they dont have head shops here in Israel...and i was wandering would anyone have any idea
as to where to get a device to pop the canisters and let the gas out preferebly
into a balloon (since i understand the gas is not exactly at room temp:)
what kind of hardware shop would have it? and what would be the legal use...?
(what would be considerd abuse of the drug - what amount is lethal?)

BTW - about the MG seeds, how do i know if i get them coated...and if dont know
how could i make sure the coating is gone (mercury and stuff...I dont suppose 
a little soap scrubbing will do....?)
has anyone tried taking the seeds form 1 or 2 packets of the seeds you buy at
garden shops (approx 5 grms..i think) and just chewing good? did it work?
whats the best way...?

id appreciate mail replys since i cant read the group lately - as it is not allowed her! (damn totalitarian country!) and my server is down...(anyone know an
NNTPSERVER i can use - preferbly around europe -read only)

Toke On!

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From: kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Kid on 48 Hours
Date: 9 Jan 1993 10:28:41 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

rbb3w@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Robert B. Bohn) writes:


>About that kid on 48 Hours who unfortunately mailed the LSD to his *friend*,
>I'm assuming that the guy was out-of-state. So that being the case, would his 
>punishment be necessarily different had he mailed it to somebody that lived
>in the same state? I know that once you cross state lines, the Feds start
>to get in the action.

This depends....more than likely if he used the Postal Service that is
run by the US gov't and not a private in-state local carrier then he
will still get busted on federal charges.   If he sold 10 times the
amount on the steet-corner though he would only be arrested for
violating whatever state law or city ordinance that applied.   I don't
know the laws of california that well (I don't think anyone does!)
but I doubt there is a minimum sentence there for slinging LSD.  Even
if there was you would much rather spend time in the california pen
than in the federal one.
From: butler@cluster.gps.caltech.edu (Bryan Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: SHROOMS: agar medium
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:31:19 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: cluster.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan8.010105.46211@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> epasls@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
stuff deleted...
>BTW, what is the basic unit for weigh in SI, kq/m/s^2 or something like that.
sig deleted

well, "weight" is a little of a misnomer, but what you're probably
looking for is force (how much you "weigh" is the force you exert
on the ground underfoot), which is F = m g (good old Newton)
where m is mass in kilograms (kg), and g is the gravitational
acceleration in meters per second squared (m/s^2) in the SI system.
so the unit of "weight" (really force) is kg m / s^2 , which is
also called a Newton (N).

        -bryan
         butler@cluster.gps.caltech.edu
      or butler_b@caltech.edu

"Instead of all of this energy and effort directed at the war
to end drugs, how about a little attention to drugs which will
end war?"	Albert Hoffman
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LSD on Dragnet
From: "Aaron R. Miller" <am49+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon,  4 Jan 1993 12:12:46 -0500 
Distribution: usa
Organization: Junior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 04-Jan-93 in LSD on Dragnet               
user Mike Swift@microsoft.com writes:
>Did anyone catch Dragnet on Nickelodeon last night?  They were running a
>top 10 classic sitcom countdown, and Dragnet was number 4.  The particular
>episode was they're famous LSD episode, and starts off in the months before
>LSD was illegalized, with Friday picking up kids who'd lost they're minds
>at acid tests, etc.  They have a chemist describe the effects of LSD, which
>are pretty much all negative - hallucinations, nausea, full-strength
>flashbacks, etc.  At the end the LSD dealer, "Blue Boy" dies of an overdose.
> 
>It seemed to me they were a bit negative, but maybe I was imagining things...
> 
> 
>- Mike

that reminds me of the Marijuana Dragnet episode where the man and his
wife ended up getting baked while their child drowned in the tub just as
joe and ?(harry morgan) made the bust. they also had an informative
section where they talked about pot, showing these big doobs 'this is a
marijuana cigarette, selling on the street for about 15 cents'. they
also showed an ounce that sold for as high as 25 dollars.  does anyone
out there have a working time machine? i'd be interested in a ride.

aaron
From: dude@losers.hacktic.nl (Dude)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: nitrous tanks
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:13:38 GMT
Organisation: black mail inc.

In article <5JAN199315400274@csa2.lbl.gov>, TONYA PUONCEY writes:

TO> Word has it from the owner, that in order to get nitrous tanks, you must 
TO> be a.) a licensed dentist, b.) a licensed welder/contractor, 
TO> c.) a race car owner, or d.) some other obscure things (in NJ).
TO> I think this guy had a car sitting in his yard collecting weeds, and had
TO> his mom get the tank, because it was 'better than smoking weed and shit'
TO> according to him, and apparently his mom cuz the guy was like 17.

Over here, they just went to a supplier and told them they needed to isolate
some cables with the gas (they couldn't find any dumber reason:-).
The guy's reaction at the suppy-center: "Yeah, sure, it's almost new-years eve,
and a couple of long-haired dudes need laughing gas to isolate some cables, 
heh... Happy new year, guys ! That's $400 please.."
But maybe people are not so relaxed in the states.

                  Dude
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Reefer Dystopia
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:33:17 GMT

mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton) writes:
:  
: Mix the following liquid ingredients into the drink of your choice (I prefer    water):
:  
:  
: 2 Squirts DMAE-H3 (Twinlabs)
: 1 Squirt Ephedra Extract
: 1 Squirt Ginseng Extract
: 100 mg. Caffeine (one ground up No-Doze)

Or, get rid of the crap and just take the No-Doze. Or, dose it with a little
vitamin C and honey.

Bill