From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Instant Replay
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:06:38 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell

In article <vamplew.716168400@probitas> vamplew@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Peter Vamplew) writes:
>In <1992Sep10.140553.5880@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>
>>In article <vamplew.716108281@probitas> vamplew@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Peter Vamplew) writes:
>>>
>>>I don't see this as an argument for instant reply. Consider this situation.
>>>I'm a receiver with the same contract, I have 14 TDs etc. Late in the last 
>>>game of the season I shed my cover and run wide open in the end-zone where
>>>the qb overthrows me by six feet. We win the game but the blown throw costs
>>>me $50,000!!
>>>
>>>Would you suggest that we have an Instant Rethrow rule so that I can get
>>>another shot at making my bonus? I hope not. 
>>>
>>Talking about asinine logic!  You are stretching it beyond
>>ludicrous in YOUR comparsion.  Your's has no merit.  The other
>>poster's logic made more sense and has some merit.  Please, get
>>real.  No one is going to have a Rethrow, unless there was a
>>penalty!
>
>Let me try again. I'm not seriously suggesting a Rethrow rule (I've got
>to remember to start including smilies when I'm being sarcastic). I'm
>not saying that IR is good or bad or anything. What I'm trying to say is
>that the argument about bad decisions affecting players wages isn't IMHO
>a reasonable justification for IR.
>
Ok, you are given permission to take off the dunce cap. The intent of IR
had nothing to do with player bonuses or clauses on their contracts.
Car 54 where are you? :-)

>Say I'm a running back with incentive clauses for the yardage I gain. A bad
>spot of the ball might mean that I just fail to reach the yardage I need
>to get my bonus. So should IR be applied every time the ball is spotted?
>(Note: sarcasm again).
>
I say tough shit!  The RB is now in the big league and he has to play by 
the rules and or contracts he signed. The owner is not likely to say,
"Well, everyone knows you got the yardage despite the wrong call." "Tell
you what, you get your $50k anyway."  Yeah, right. All the more reason
though to have IR back in play, regardless if it will determine a bonus
for a player.

>There are plenty of good reasons for having IR, just as their are plenty of
>good reasons for not having it. The impact on players pay-checks is not
>one of them. (Semi-serious-stupid idea for the day - if the coach wants to
>complain about a decision such as a disallowed TD after the game, then the
>team should have to back him up by recognising it as a TD from the point of
>view of the player's incentive clauses) 
>
>Second S-S-S idea for the day: Anyone who complains about the standard of
>NFL officiating should be made to sit through an average AFL Aussie Rules
>game. You'll see more bad calls in that than in an entire NFL season.
>
Oh yeah, try watching the WWF or the boxing in the previous Olympics.

>>>Peter Vamplew - IS Fanatic :-)
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^
>Oh well, at least we agree on one thing :-)
>
>Peter Vamplew - Still fanatic after all these years!
>
>--


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