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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: spike lee &  boston celtics
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:45:29 GMT

In article <1edgopINNebb@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>
>	I'm inclined to say he's just a jerk.  
>
>I believe he said he would only talk to black reporters about Malcom X
>(open-minded, eh?) 

Not exactly.  He put substantial pressure on a number of magazines to
send black reporters for the interviews.  I don't think he ever refused
to talk to a white reporter who actually was sent to interview him, and
he definitely talked to some white reporters about "Malcolm X".

By the way, if people are skipping his films because they don't like
Lee personally, you are missing some very good films.  Regardless of
whether you agree with him, Lee is a talented filmmaker whose films 
don't resemble anyone else's.  There is strong artistic merit in Lee's
films, and those serious about film are making a mistake if they skip
his films.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: Alice.Cramer <Alice.Cramer@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: A DIEHARD Question
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:17:44 GMT

In <1eavkpINNos3@eagle.natinst.com> darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie) writes:

>I believe this has been discussed before but I dont remember what was 
>said.  In  DIEHARD when McClane asked Hans what his name was he said
>a name which was on the marquee behind him. McClane looked at the marquee
>and knew that he was lying.  How did he know this.  If Hans was an actual
>person that worked their, wouldnt his name be on the marquee, and the
>marquee would be in the general area where Hans was found because had he
>really been this person(Was it William Clay) wouldnt he have been hiding in
>his office or somewhere nearby.  I mean that whatever floor that William  
>Clay's? office was on its likely that the marquee would be on that same floor. 

>Darren

I must have watched this movie 10+ times before I finally figured this out. 
I'm kind of glad someone else didn't get this right away too.  McClane offers
Hans a cigerette sometime during the conversation and Hans takes it and
doesn't think anything of it, however, the cigerette was EUROPEAN and though
I'm not a smoker I know there is a difference between American cigerettes and
others.  McClane even mentions things at one point earlier in the movie when
he first gets them. 

I'm sorry this is one loooong sentence but it's late and I'm tired.  I hope
this info helps!  I know I was greatly relieved when I figured it out because
it really bugged me!!!   

> 
-- 
Alice Cramer      Alice.Cramer@mixcom.com

"The greatest right in the world is the right to be wrong."
                                - Harry Weinberger
From: jaime@kali.edsg.hac.com (Jaime Villacorte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: ALADDIN, lightly salted & reviewed (no cholesterol, no spoilers)
Keywords: ALADDIN
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:42:27 GMT
Reply-To: jaime@kali.UUCP (Jaime Villacorte)
Distribution: na
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

In article <1992Nov16.041408.9972@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>Short, concise review:
>
>    I HAD A GREAT TIME.  IT WAS MUCH BETTER THAN `CATS'.  I'M GOING TO SEE IT
>    AGAIN AND AGAIN.

	Another enthusiastic thumbs up here for the movie. Robin Williams
put in an incredible, machine-gun like performance. The animation was superb.
I'd like to see the movie a few more times to catch all the gags that
were drowned out by the audience's laughter.

	And if you happen to be anywhere near Hollywood, California while this
movie is showing, make sure to watch Aladdin in the El Capitan theater -
you'll be treated to an extra double-plus good treat! Not only will you see it
in a grand, majestic, newly restored theater with a THX sound system *and*
with a Dolby Digital soundtrack, but you'll also be get a live pre-show
performance of the El Capitan singers and dancers. They performed a
wonderful tribute to the Disney's previous romantic couples. The best movie
experience I've had in a few years.

						- jaime villacorte
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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: Help settle a stupid bet over War of the Roses.
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:50:56 GMT

>>   Due to my V.C.R. being stolen not to long ago I can`t just rent War of the
>>Roses to settle the bet myself. That said, the bet is:  I say Turner shrugged
>>Douglas off at the very end of the movie but my friend thinks that Douglas
>>shruged Turner off (by the end I mean when they die).  Thanks..
>
>If my memory hasn't failed me, I think you are right. Turner did shrug
>Douglas off.

You win your bet. Turner does shrug off Douglas's hand at the end of the
movie. A great touch in a great movie. Now all I have to do is buy a
lazer disk player so I can watch the disk version with all the cool
extra stuff.

BTW, do we get a percentage for helping you win the bet? ;->

-Craig


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From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy)
Subject: Revew: Until the end of the world (was: any good?)
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:33:50 GMT

staffelb@acd.ucar.edu (Thomas Staffelbach 497-1499 room 382) writes:

>Does anybody out there have an opinion about this movie they would
>like to share?
>I'm still not decided whether to go and see it tonight.

Here's my review (recently posted to aus.films):

Review: until the end of the world. Directed Wim Wenders (Wings of Desire)
	Lots of actors, including William Hurt, Solveig Dommartin,
	Sam Neill, Max Von Syndow and Ernie Dingo. 

The Australian release of "Until the End of the World" is roughly 
three hours long, cut down from an original length that's rumoured
to be between five and seven hours long. Even so, there's more
than one movie in the edited length of World: there's at least three 
distinct sections, and enough stuffing -- in terms of ideas and 
incomplete, possibly edited-out character development -- to make a few 
more movies again. Ambitious, in this case, is an understatement.

"Until the end..." has three basic sections. The first hour is
an ordinary chase movie through Europe and the US. The action
then moves to Coober Pedy for the final two "acts." Hurt's mother
is blind. His father has invented a camera for the blind. Hurt
was travelling around the world to film images for his mother.
(The scene where Hurt films his sister and her daughter is my favourite
of the movie: the daughter tells the camera how she misses her mother, 
and wishes the mother were there to meet the grandaughter. It's simple 
and moving, with superbly restrained emotional impact.)

The film Hurt makes -- and it's effect on the mother -- is the centre
of the second section. And the final third concerns "the disease of
images." The father goes one step further with his camera, and 
records the dreams of Hurt and Dommartin, who become addicted.

"Until the end..." is cowritten by Peter Carey (the narration is
reminiscent of Illywacker). It's filmed in 10 countries -- Wenders 
has said, in interviews, that "the constant crew...were...completely 
wasted and out of their heads." In some ways, this shows. There
was too much material for one movie -- it's disjointed and obviously
heavily edited. But for a director like Wenders, severe editing
is a plus. And the constant introduction of new themes and plots 
(and the way once-important plotlines are just forgotten) doesn't
distract from the dazzling ideas of the script.

Very much worth seeing. Inventive, affecting and more interesting
than most of the movies showing now.

[That review was followed up by a friend of mine, who said Until 
was "good, but dull in places." But he's not good with long movies]

--- G M Heinrich  ( leroy@socs.uts.edu.au )
I did not know the cure for the disease of images, but I believed
in the healing power of words and stories.
From: wp11+@andrew.cmu.edu (W Darren Prouty)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: BSD - Who to root for?
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:10:54 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   I managed to catch Coppola's film of Bram Stokers Dracula opening
night with a packed house and must say that it had some of the best
cinematography I've seen in years. However, the movie had one huge
fault, there was no definite protagonist or antagonist. 
   In the beginning, we're led to believe that Dracula is going to be
symphatized, until he denounces God and the church, at which point he
becomes the Dracula we all know and love.
    Enter Keanu (100% Pure Bad Acting) and a supposed 'new' hero to
watch, however he soon fades quickly away into Dracula's harem not to
reappear until the late half of the film. Question: has anyone male ever
looked so unenthuistic in a harem sequence before (maybe Michelle
Pfeiffer should have been in the scenes, eh Jubin?).
    Re-enter Dracula in Lennon garb - a character we are now presented
with as just a guy needing to be loved - until every so often when he
turns into a wolf for a quick fuck with the local flirt Lucy.
    Finally, enter Anthony Hopkins in a superb acting job and a
character we are all led to root for - until he and his gang of
bachelors kill Dracula and we now feel sorry for (as Entertainment
Weekly describes her) the 'nice-nice' Winona. (who was the only reason
my good friend Rich went to see the movie, at least HE enjoyed it fully)
    Coppola, what gives? 




***********************************
 W.D.Prouty    wp11@andrew.cmu.edu
***********************************
   "Stupidity is much the same
       all the world over."

                 -John Stuart Mill
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From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Subject: Re: The Bodyguard
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:29:24 GMT

keenstev@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Keen) writes:

>Has anyone heard any advance word on The Bodyguard with Whitney Houston
>and Kevin Costner?

Plenty. Too much if you ask me.  Is it my imagination, or are Whitney Houston and Kevin Costner just a wee bit over-rated?  If it isn't my imagination, then
should we expect "The Bodyguard" to be over-hyped?

Rhetorical question.
Christina O'Sullivan
cosulliv@sfu.ca
  
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From: jmauric@eng.clemson.edu (John Maurice)
Subject: Re: Malcolm X controversies
Reply-To: jmauric@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:48:12 GMT

yeah. malcolm x was a drug dealer in his younger days and spike lee has seens of
this in his movie. i guess some blacks think malcolm x was god and never did
anything bad.

---

                                            --John

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From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Subject: Re: The Bodyguard
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:40:19 GMT

roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:

>In article <BxzG7F.6E0@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> keenstev@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Keen) writes:
>>Has anyone heard any advance word on The Bodyguard with Whitney Houston
>>and Kevin Costner?


>If the previews I have seen are any indication, I have hard time seeing
>why anyone would want to pay good money for this turkey. How unoriginal
>can they be?
>-- 
Since when has unoriginality been an unwanted Hollywood production value?
"If it's tried and true, it's good for you!"

Christina O'Sullivan
cosulliv@sfu.ca
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Subject: Re: First "Dracula" Goof - Minor Spoiler
From: kent@rahul.net (Kent Talarico)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:21:40 GMT
Organization: a2i network

I noticed a goof near the end of the credits. Instead of the usual
"No animals were harmed during the filming" line, it said
"No animal was harmed" :)

-Kent
--
Kent Talarico <kent@rahul.net>
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: new muppet movie
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:17:48 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

YI>   A friend of mine was telling me that a new Muppet Movie is coming out for
YI>Christmas. He also said it was going to be sorta like a "Scrooge" story. I wa
YI>just wondering if anyone has heard anything pertaining to this movie as far
YI>as what Muppets are to play which parts, and (the grand question of 'em all)
YI>is Kermit going to be in the film, since Jim Henson performed Kermie from the
YI>beginning. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

     The movie is THE MUPPET CHRISTMAS CAROL, and yes, Kermit is in it.  He
     plays the role of Bob Cratchit, with Robin as Tiny Tim.  One
     interesting bit of casting:  Scrooge is played by Michael Caine.
---
  SLMR 2.1a  if ((tiny) and (toony)) then allalittle(looney);
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA

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From: cbolton@csd475a.erim.org (Chris Bolton)
Subject: Coppola's Dracula:  False Advertising
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:53:44


  The biggest problem that I had with Dracula was that it wasn't at all
like the book.  Coppola repeatedly claimed that he would stay true to the
story and did not.  I have no problem with his changing things (well,
actually I do with such a classic story, but I won't dwell on that), but
don't tell me something untrue just to get me into the theater.
  Sure, he pulls quotes directly from the book, and some of the scenes 
reflect those described in the book, but the characters personalities or
actions create a completely different image and, in many cases, change the
context of the scenes entirely.  To compare it to something on a much smaller 
level, consider the following cartoon:

  Wile E. Coyote, a sympathetic, loving creature is on a quest to help an
endangered Roadrunner.  He frequently offers the Roadrunner birdseed, free 
of charge, so that he may rest assured that the bird will never have to go
hungry.  However, the Roadrunner is evil and sadistic, and repeatedly attacks
Wile E., bludgeoning him with large iron balls, throwing him off of cliffs,
and hurling him into the path of oncoming trucks.  After seemingly endless
abuse, the poor Coyote gives up his quest, merely a shadow of the individual 
he once was.

  Now the action on the screen might be very similar to the events portrayed
in the classic cartoons, but the entire thing is different.  Same goes with 
this Dracula movie (in my opinion).

					-Chris Bolton
					 cbolton@csd475a.erim.org
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Dracula: Lucy's accent
Date: 16 Nov 1992 17:57:39 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com


What kind of accent did the character of Lucy, played by Sadie Frost, in
"Bram Stoker's Dracula" have?  I recognize it (it's similar to that of the
English actress on TV's "Homefront" -- her name escapes me at the moment),
but I'm not familiar enough with British regional accents to place it.

-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
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From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: Dracula sucked
Summary: I disagree.
Reply-To: eprice@sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:18:12 GMT

In article <dnv1=pn@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:

>Well, I admit it, Dracula is a nice looking film with good
>performances.  Like Batman Returns, however, I was bored to death!
>This movie is one of the most boring movies I watched this year.  I
>give it **1/2 out of ****.

This is mildly interesting because one comparison that did occur to me
was Coppola's Dracula vs. Tim Burton's Batman.  Personally, I think
Coppola did a much better job, hell, a million times better!  After
seeing DRACULA I actually thought, wow, if only Burton had done
something this cool for Batman.  (I just watched BATMAN RETURNS
recently.  Thought it sucked.  Zero stars.)

Hey, it's just MHO!

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sybase.com (not wildman@...)
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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Coppola's "Bram Stoker's Dracula"
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:10:48 GMT

In article <3219@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks240.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>
>    I was under the impression that Tom Waites played Renfield, but he
>is never mentioned in any of your reviews/comments. Is he in it? Is he
>good? Thank you.

Yes, very, your welcome.

--
====
Ed McCreary                                               ,__o
mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com                       _-\_<,
"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Reviews on _Malcolm X_
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:25:08 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <ISBELL.92Nov14142838@panther.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
>
>Well, Newsweek gave it a very positive, almost fawning review in their
>latest issue (with Malcolm X on the cover).  They thought the 3.5
>hours went quickly and well and were especially impressed with Denzel
>Washington.
>
>Similarly, S&E gave two thumbs "waaaay up" for the film in their
>weekly sindicated show.  They were especially impressed with Denzel &
>Al Freeman Jr (who plays Elijah Muhammed).  They decided both deserved
>Oscar nominations.  And they seemed impressed with the on-location
>shots of Mecca/Egypt.  Described it as an beautiful epic.
>
>Looks like Spike Lee has managed a cinematic coup on this one.

Variety, on the other hand, said it could easily have had half an hour
cut with no damage, that it lacked the driving force of "The Autobiography
of Malcolm X" (the book), that the Egyptian scenes were motiveless, and,
in general, that the film failed to make Malcolm X appear a vital and
important figure.  The reviewer said that Lee did well with a lot of scenes,
but failed to tie his scenes together into a coherent whole.  He, too, praised 
Washington and Al Freeman, Jr., and the actors, in general. 

So we'll see.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: mstemper@ems.cdc.com (Michael Stemper)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.wobegon
Subject: Re: Classic Bob and Ray
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:20:31 GMT
Reply-To: mstemper@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of Ceridian

In article <lga95sINN2pk@news.bbn.com>, ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer) writes:
>others it can serve as a warning to keep your ears open in your local area.
>
>One of Boston's PBS stations has started carrying a weekly, half-hour show
>called "Classic Bob and Ray".

In Minneapolis, KBEM (88.5 FM) is carrying it. They aren't affiliated with
PBS, but with the Mpls public schools.

>It's currently being broadcast on Mondays at 4:30pm (how's *that* for a
>stupid time-slot, huh.)

I'll have to agree with that. Here, it's on Sundays at 6:00pm.

-- 
#include <Standard_Disclaimer.h>
Michael F. Stemper
Power Systems Consultant
mstemper@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:19:17 EST
From: <DHE2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.wobegon
Subject: Loss of signal

I wish I could adequately express the trauma I have felt since coming to Penn S
tate 2 years ago.  For years, I was a devoted Garrison Kiellor fan -- eagerly c
onsuming the stories of Bertha's Kitty Boutique, the Side Track Tap, etc.  Then
, I moved to Happy Valley, in the middle of Pennsylvania.  Sadly, WPSU here doe
s not carry The American Radio Co., and the station is impervious to my repeate
d entreaties, even when accompanied by a generous pledge.  10 miles outside of
town, where the NPR stations from the Pittsburgh or Harrisburg areas can be rec
eived, the ARC lives hale and hearty on Saturday evenings, but here -- here the
re has never been the little town that time forgot, that the decades cannot imp
rove, where the women are all strong and the men are good looking.  And though
it is blissfully ignorant of it, State College is much the poorer for it.  Thos
e of you more fortunate, I salute you.
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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Ivy & Bill
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:10:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.184333.13551@medtron.medtronic.com> cc0001@medtronic.COM (Christopher Carriero) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.135145.548@software.org> wartik@software.org (Steve Wartik) writes:
>>
>>I hope there was someone at the Nov. 7 show who can answer the following
>>question for this longtime Showboat aficionado: was Ivy Austin sitting on
>>the piano when she sang "Bill"?


>>Also, if anyone got the words, I'd love a copy.

Heh.. what about Tom Lehrer's version? 

>I was at the show on November 7th and Ivy was not sitting on the
>piano, although that would have been great.  Ivy was using her
>hips a lot during the song.
>
>Another part that was pretty funny was when GK was playing the 
>piano.  He actually was not playing the piano.
>
>This was our first time seeing GK and we enjoyed it immensely.  We
>are looking forward to going again soon.

Heheheh...

Attending the show is a real eye-opener. Its set up as though the
audience can't see the stage.. its a radio show after all. People
walk on or off the stage in the middle of things, all those voices 
on the radio plays are just Keillor, the two actors and Tom Keith.
The don't actually do song and dance routines; if they did the dan-
cing is probably Tom Keith again...








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From: clb@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (carl.l.blesch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.wobegon
Subject: Re: Pseudonyms
Summary: another pseudonym
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:56:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsd.1992Nov23.185633.25863
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, IL

In article <01GRHM6W6BMO0005TR@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>, HENKLE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU (Doug Henkle, Univ of Wis Oshkosh) writes:
> 1.  Muriel Brubaker       (or is it Murray L. ?)
> 2.  Emanuel Transmission  (or is it E. Manual ?)
> 3.  Natalie Dressed       (or is it Nattily   ?)
> 
> ...  Does anyone
> know of any other names that Garrison has used, that can be added to the
> list?

He's used "Norman Conquest" more than once.

Carl
Organization: Senior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA