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From: asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal)
Subject: NCCCC-1
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:53:35 GMT

Ok, we all love cryptics dearly, but all we've seen for months
have been cryptic cluing contests.  So here's something different:
the Non-Cryptic Crossword Cluing Competition.

Here's how it works.  Large puzzles in the US typically have some sort
of theme.  I will give a puzzle theme, and you invent a clue and an entry
that fits the theme.  For example, a couple of months ago Games magazine
had a puzzle that had as its main entries phrases consisting completely
of books of the Bible.  For example, the clue

  Mr. Broderick plays Lear and Henry (7, 4, 5)

would have the answer

  Matthew Acts Kings

and the clue

  Mr. Clemens writes about the supreme court (6, 10, 6)

would have the answer

  Samuel Chronicles Judges

(the letter counts aren't normally given in US puzzles, but in the absence
of checking words they seem like a good idea)

At the end of this message will be a theme.  Write a clue using this theme,
including the letter count, and include the answer.  Please leave 24 blank
lines between the clue and the answer so that I can try to solve it.  Also
indicate whether you would be willing to pick a theme and judge the next
round of the contest.  One entry per person, please.  Mail your entry to
asente@adobe.com so that it arrives by 5:00 PM PDT, on Friday, Oct. 16.
(I will be out of town for a few days, so I will not be individually
acknowledging entries.)  I will post all the entries in a form suitable
for solving, and pick a winner, next weekend.

If you don't want to see the theme, hit 'n' now...








































An easy theme to start with:  "Literally So."  The clue should be
a typographical rebus for a common phrase.  Examples:

    Waether (1, 3, 5, 2, 7)	   A bad spell of weather

    Billboard (4, 2, 3, 6, 4)	   Sign on the dotted line
    .........

    Oyster stones, hogs (6, 6, 5)  Pearls before swine

Good luck!

__   -paul asente
\/     asente@adobe.com   ...decwrl!adobe!asente   moo-bear@cs.stanford.edu

I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is:  I
only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that
differentiate me from a doormat.		-Rebecca West, 1913
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: rt@ukc.ac.uk (R.W.Thearle)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: Results of cwc19
Keywords: The winner!
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:38:39 GMT
Reply-To: rt@ukc.ac.uk (R.W.Thearle)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

Here are the two winning clues for cwc19, submitted by Guy Jacobson
and David Smith respectively.

I hereby invite David to run the next episode.

	Across
	1. Chain reaction could lead to this syndrome! (5)

	Down
	1. 1's neighbour tangles ends of green netting with hook. (4,4)

Thanks to all of you who submitted clues - I'll be posting the rest of
them soon (probably tomorrow).

			Roy
From: DKSmith@cen.ex.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: CWC20
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:59:19 GMT
Organization: University of Exeter, UK.

Welcome to CWC20!

This is the next instalment in the clue writing competition started by
Ian Gent. Later on in this posting, you will find two words to write
clues for. They have been encrypted (rot13) for extra protection.
The first word is chosen to be rather easy to clue; the second is slightly
(i.e. considerably) harder. Competitors are invited to submit one (1)
cryptic clue for each word, together with explanations of their
clues, and an indication as to whether they would be able to run the next
contest, to the following address:

		DKSmith@msor.exeter.ac.uk
		(or whatever appears at the head of this posting on
		your system)
by
		23:59 GMT, 15th Oct 1992

Only the first clues submitted by each competitor will be counted. 
Do not post your clues, as some people may prefer to solve the 
winning entries.  After the deadline has passed, judging will 
commence; one winner will be chosen for each word, and the better 
of the two winners will be invited to judge the next competition.

The submitted clues will ( I hope) be posted as follows:

		16th Oct : the winners;
		16th Oct (later) : the rest.

Does anyone have a list of the words that have already appeared in
this relay-race?  And the winning clues?  It would be nice to
prevent duplication of ideas.

The words for clueing follow (rot13) after lots of space:


































	NEBHAQ

	NFORFGBF

If it makes any difference, assume that the two words are in the
same crossword.

Clues I like? 
    Those which are imaginative and do not assume that the 
    solver has specialist knowledge of a particular nation's
    history or geography or culture.

Enjoy it!


Dr David K Smith  email: DKSmith@msor.exeter.ac.uk  [MSOR = Mathematical
MSOR Department       phone: + 44 392 264478        Statistics and 
University of Exeter  fax  : + 44 392 264460        Operational Research]
Exeter, Devon, UK     
       Exeter --- probably the best university in the world! :-)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal)
Subject: Re: compilation of clues for cwc19
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:18:00 GMT

In article <1853@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> rt@ukc.ac.uk (R.W.Thearle) writes:
>I'm sure China wouldn't fit inside a hutch
>(unless it was built for a really BIG rabbit!).

A "hutch" is another word for a china cabinet (usually about 2m high, has
cupboards with doors at the bottom and several open shelves or glass-fronted
cupboards for displaying dishes).

__   -paul asente
\/     asente@adobe.com   ...decwrl!adobe!asente   moo-bear@cs.stanford.edu

o       In China's remote Dimsum province, oxen are used in
        place of technical writers, with no apparent loss of
        readability.
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: PCWC 1 results
Organization: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:08:13 GMT

guy@ulysses.att.com (Guy Jacobson) writes:
> The most controversial clue of the contest was:
> 
> 13) The opposite of me and the converted actor I succeeded
>            in Washington! (10)
> 
> Which came in sixth in the ranking, but received more clear
> first-place votes than any other clue.  While some people (including
> me) loved this clue, others must have been put off by its complexity

     Interesting.  While there was one and possibly
a few other clues I thought were too complex, this
wasn't one of them.  I did take issue with the clue
on a couple of technical points, but nevertheless
liked it enough to overcome my objections and vote
for it ahead of my clue.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
From: tomd@bali.amd.com (Tom Deneau)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: ACC10 -- winning clues
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:16:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: dvorak.1992Oct8.231626.5031
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX

Here is the winning clue for ACC10 :

     Programs waste for-loops (8)

which was submitted by Scott Glazer (glazer@cs.cornell.edu)


Scott was unable to judge ACC11 so, for second place,
I chose the clue submitted by Jake Bergmann
(bergmann@bl.cad.slb.com)

    Procedure for painful takeover of failed airline (8)

and Jake has agreed to run ACC11.


Thanks to all the entrants.  The number of entries, 10,
was down from what I have seen in previous contests.
Perhaps the word was not an easy one to clue.

I will try to post the complete list of clues tomorrow.

 Tom Deneau                    {uunet, cs.utexas.edu!ames}!amdcad!cayman!tomd
 Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX     +1 512 462 4952     tom.deneau@AMD.COM
From: toby@cs.man.ac.uk (Toby Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: support software
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:56:23 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester

Forgive me if this is a FAQ (which I can't find for this group) but does
anyone know of any (preferable X-based) software to help create crosswords,
such a drawing grids, automated word selection etc? I know some papers have
been published in this area.

Thanks for any help

Toby
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Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: steiner@andy.bgsu.edu (Ray Steiner)
Subject: Re: ACC10 -- winning clues
Summary: Another approach
Keywords: limits, puzzles, judging
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:49:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.201816.4327@EE.Stanford.EDU>, quinn@EE-CF.Stanford.EDU (Christine A. Quinn) writes:
> Perhaps if there was a rule that the same person can't win twice
> within a six month period or some such, we might have a better
> chance (we being the more slovenly cluers).  And maybe there'd be
> more entrants.

This might be a solution, but I think the answer is not to get
discouraged! Remember, clue writing is a real art form and IMHO
it takes years to learn to write winning clues. I think a good
first step might be to get out Don Manley's Crossword Puzzle
Book and study the art of fine clue writing. It also seems
that writing a good clue for a contest often takes hours of
work at the conscious level, then sitting on it over night
and letting the subconscious do some work. I have been at
this for many years and have never won yet but I will keep
trying. I will also keep working the puzzles of good setters to
learn how good clues are constructed. How about some
discussion on this point?
Ray Steiner
-- 
steiner@andy.bgsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: DKSmith@cen.ex.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: CWC20 winners
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:36:16 GMT
Organization: University of Exeter, UK.


First of all, my thanks to all entrants.
Then thanks to those who provided the following list
of past words from CWC1-19 (I've left CWC20 out so
that anyone can attempt the clues unseen.

1  MOUSETRAP, CONVOLVULUS
2  DEMONSTRATE, SCHERZO
3  PIRATES, PISTACHIO
4  ENTERPRISE, KARAOKE
5  FLOUNDER, JERK
6  INTEGRATED, PARANOIA
7  MODERATE, UNREQUITED
8  STRANGER, SHOCKED, ICED TEA
9  ALTERNATE, RHYTHM
10 CONSIDERABLE, KNUCKLE
11 ELABORATE, JUXTAPOSE
12 MISCREATION, AARDWOLF
13 CONDIMENT, FACULTY
14 SULLEN, CHILDHOOD
15 PICARESQUE, COLOPHON
16 WEATHERED, EXEMPT
17 STRATAGEM, SQUEEZE
18 BULLWINKLE, ROCKY
19 CHINA, HONGKONG
(please forward to next contest winner!)

And now for the winners of CWC20

Ilana Stern (ilana@ncar.ucar.edu) sent:
	Bad road encircles U.N. on all sides (6) *
and I invite her to moderate the next contest CWC21

tomd@com.amd.cayman sent:        
	Bum, returning drunk, has to live inside pipe covering. (8) *
but he couldn't moderate CWC21

Thanks for all the fun I've had;  

David S

Dr David K Smith      email: dks@msor.exeter.ac.uk  [MSOR = Mathematical
MSOR Department       phone: + 44 392 264478        Statistics and 
University of Exeter  fax  : + 44 392 264460        Operational Research]
Exeter, Devon, UK     
       Exeter --- probably the best university in the world! :-)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: AZPACONY
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:26:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.210616.20954@ncar.ucar.edu>, ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:
> 	AZPACONY by Ilana Stern / October 1992
> 
> After I posted my 5x5 "CLUEGE" puzzle, I got enough email encouragement to
> create a "real" cryptic.  This one is (I think) fairly easy and straight-
> forward, although it does have a theme, of sorts.  As an incentive to
> solvers, I will mail a prize to the first person who sends me email 
> explaining what the theme is and identifying all expressions of it in 
> this puzzle.

We have a winner!  Roger Phillips (roger@quantime.co.uk) was the first
to correctly identify all expressions of the theme of this puzzle,
which slightly surprised me because xx xxx'x Xxxxxxxx but didn't surprise
me much as he is obviously a crack cryptic solver.  (If you have
figured out the theme, you know what the x's above stand for.)  Roger
will be receiving a souvenir from the city I live in.

I'd also like to recognize Margie Zeller (mzeller@umassd.edu) as 
runner-up;  she was the first to send me email, and she correctly 
identified the theme, but did not identify all expressions of it
in the puzzle. 

Thanks to everybody who sent me comments.  I will post the answers
sometime next week.

-- 
/\     It's not denial.  I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.
  \_][ <--NCAR Ilana Stern dod#009 r.b. cliff swallow ilana@ncar.ucar.edu    
      \______________________________________________________________________
From: kbeer@wam.umd.edu (Ken Beer)
Subject: Re: Crossword Creation (Non-Cryptic)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:51:57 GMT

  I'm looking for information out there on creating crossword puzzles
of the newspaper/non-cryptic variety.  

	* What (if any) reference book(s) are worth buying?

	* Are the Crossword-maker programs on the market valuable?

	* what are some rules of thumb for constructing a puzzle?

	* what makes one puzzle better than another?

	* there was an article on using your computer to create puzzles
		in a Games magazine a while back, does anyone know which
		issue?
    
 Questions, questions, questions. 
Also, if anyone is in the midst of writing software for creating puzzles, 
(i.e. assisting in the creation of puzzles) let me know.  I am thinking of
writing a program to help me make puzzles. (I plan to make one for the
newsletter at work every month)

	-THANKS

-- 
 				
				- |< E /\/  

 kbeer@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: asimov@wk223.nas.nasa.gov (Daniel A. Asimov)
Subject: Crossword-Related Fiction 
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 00:34:04 GMT

I would like to hear of any crossword-related fiction,
especially any that comes recommended.


I can mention a series of mysteries by Herbert Resnicow
(which were in paperback a few years ago, but may or may
not be any longer in print).  They all concerned a Crossword
Club of ultra-experts, which always got involved in some
nifty mysteries.  The books also contained real crosswords
to solve that were part of the mysteries, (constructed by
real-life constructor Henry Hook).  I wish I could say that 
the books were well-written, but I can't.  Nevertheless, 
they were great fun to read.

--Daz
From: bergmann@bl.cad.slb.com (Jake Bergmann)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: Announcing ACC #11
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:06:34 GMT
Reply-To: bergmann@blaca1.sinet.slb.com
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Billerica, Mass. (USA)

Tom Deneau has generously asked me to be the next judge, so....


Welcome to Araucaria Clueing Competition Number 11

To enter, write a cryptic clue for the word given below
(only one clue per person, please).  Email it to me at

           bergmann@bl.cad.slb.com

along with a description of how the clue works by:

         Sunday, 18 Oct 92 23:59 GMT.

I'll post my choice of winning clue soon after that,
and an annotated list of all the clues I receive.
The winner will be invited to judge the next ACC.
When you send in your clue, please indicate whether
you would be willing to judge the next contest.


The word to clue (disguised in rot13 mode) is:























BORFVGL







What kind of clues do I like?  I like smooth-reading clues with no
wasted words, and also misleading language and word play.

          Jake Bergmann        Billerica, Massachusetts, USA
          Schlumberger CAD/CAM, a.k.a. Applicon
From: jspinnow@netcom.com (John Stewart Pinnow)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: Looking for an faq
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:26:05 GMT
Organization: Tmoh Research, Milwaukee, WI


I was wondering if there was an faq for this newsgroup. I am looking for text
files that contain puzzles that I can just pipe out my printer.

Thank you,
-- 
Tmoh Research       | Net : jspinnow@csd4.csd.uwm.edu| Usmail: Ask
John S. Pinnow      |       jspinnow@netcom.com      | AT&T  : (414) 761-1537
Milwaukee, WI 53221 |        jpinnow@world.std.com   | The opinions I express
                    |       alumn123@whscdp.whs.edu  | are mine........
From: tomd@bali.amd.com (Tom Deneau)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: (SPOILER) ACC10 -- complete list of clues
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:30:13 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX

Here's the complete list of clues for ACC10.
The number of entries, 10, was definitely
down from what I have seen in previous contests.
I didn't choose the word SOFTWARE to be a difficult
one to clue but perhaps it was.
I was surprised there were no anagram clues 
using "sort a few".

The clues follows, separated by type of clue,
but in no particular order.


ANAGRAMS
--------

Programs waste for-loops (8)
	[anagram "waste for"]
	Scott Glazer (glazer@cs.cornell.edu)
First place.
I liked it because it was short and it read so naturally
although I suppose it wouldn't be appropriate for
a non-computer audience who hadn't heard of for loops.
 

Computer programs produced by waster of resources(8).
	[anagram "waster of"]
	Sastry V. Nanduri (nvs@cc.gatech.edu)
Interesting anagram indicator.


Two safer tumbling programs (8)
	[anag. "two safer"]
	Ralph Kennedy (kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu)
A straightforward anagram clue.


Manuver raft so we can receive the program (8)
	[anag. "raft so we"]
	Brian C. Spollen  (bcs@sc.harris.com)
I'm not sure what part "receive" plays in the cryptic reading.




CHARADES AND OTHERS
-------------------

Procedure for painful takeover of failed airline (8)
	[SO( F + TWA )RE; Failed = letter grade F]
	Jake Bergmann (bergmann@bl.cad.slb.com)
Honorable Mention. (although I wasn't all that
comfortable with "takeover" as the indicator).


Quiet little man drops out of welfare program (8)
        [SOFT + ELF removed from WELFARE]
	Guy Jacobson (guy@ulysses.att.com)
Honorable Mention.  Decent charade.


Program often starts in messy curse (8)
	[OFT (often starts) in SWARE (messy "swear" = curse)]
         -Steve Fineman (sfine00@ricevm1.rice.edu)
The straight reading felt awkward.


Cursed old packages frequently! (8)
	[SWARE (archaic past tense of "swear" - in Chambers)
	around OFT; &lit.]
	Roger Phillips (roger@quantime.co.uk)
The SWARE seemed too obscure and as an &lit definition
of software, it was a stretch.


Point of order: water code (8).
	[S (point) + OF +WATER anag]
	Alan Waldock (ajw@aus.hf.intel.com)
Decent charade but the straight reading
wasn't natural enough.


Instructions confused west for east (8)
	[anag.    WEST FOR + E]
	Mark S. Manasse<msm@src.dec.com>
Whoops! WESTFOR isn't an anagram for SOFTWAR.
Interestingly,  one could parse this
as anag(W+FOR+EAST) which does work although
the W part makes it an indirect anagram.



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 Tom Deneau                    {uunet, cs.utexas.edu!ames}!amdcad!cayman!tomd
 Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX     +1 512 462 4952     tom.deneau@AMD.COM
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: quinn@EE-CF.Stanford.EDU (Christine A. Quinn)
Subject: Re: ACC10 -- winning clues
Summary: Limit winners?
Keywords: limits, puzzles, judging
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 20:18:16 GMT

Previously, Tom Deneau (tomd@cayman.amd.com) said:

> The number of entries, 10, was down from what I have 
> seen in previous contests.  Perhaps the word was not 
> an easy one to clue.

This, at least for me, was not the reason.  After submitting
several clues for both ACC and CWC I have never won.
It appears, at least to my perverted eye, that the same people 
win these things over and over again.
I can understand why - those who do it well, do it well over
and over again.  But, it could greatly discourage the rest of us
from entering.  It was fun and novel at first, but now it
is becoming much less so - in fact without the apparent chance
at winning it seems cumbersome and tedious.  My child-side wants to
win once. 

Perhaps if there was a rule that the same person can't win twice
within a six month period or some such, we might have a better
chance (we being the more slovenly cluers).  And maybe there'd be
more entrants.

-chris quinn (quinn@eecf.stanford.edu)

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With awkish scripts and starkest posts, |  Stanford University
She pounds the keys and C's the most,   |  Electrical Engineering
and still insists she frees the host.   |    Computer Facility
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: (SPOILER) ACC10 -- complete list of clues
Organization: t.b
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:24:57 GMT

tomd@bali.amd.com (Tom Deneau) writes:
> I was surprised there were no anagram clues 
> using "sort a few".

     Actually, one of my first stabs was "Rewrite
a few sort programs (8)," but I rejected that as
too easy.  I figured that if I was going to make
a straight anagram involving "programs" as the
definition, the least I could do was have programs
take on a different meaning (from computers) in the
surface reading to provide at least some challenge
for the solver.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
From: ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Subject: Re: TRAPPED BUBBLE
Originator: ssd@atlas.psrc.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:01:07 GMT


In article <1bhahsINNc0@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
(Carl J Lydick) writes:
|> Path:
|>
taco!gatech!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.ed
du!SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU!CARL
|> From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
|> Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
|> Subject: Re: TRAPPED BUBBLE
|> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 10:23:56 GMT+5:00
|> Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
|> Lines: 32
|> Message-ID: <1bhahsINNc0@gap.caltech.edu>
|> References: <10002@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM>
|> Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
|> NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu
|> 
|> In article <10002@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM>,
|> tjgerman@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Trevor German) writes:
|> >		Take a cylinder of _incompressible_ fluid. Attach a
|> >	balloon to the lid of the cylinder and seal the cylinder
|> >	with the lid such that there is no air trapped within.
|> 
|> I assume the fluid also cannot expand.
|> 
|> >		Now flip the cylinder upside down.
|> >
|> >		The question is, what happens to the baloon. Does it
|> >	get bigger or smaller. What happens to the pressure in the 
|> >	baloon, does it change. What are the thermal effects if any.
|> 
|> The balloon remains the same size.  Since the volume of the fluid
|> filling the
|> rest of the cylinder can't change, and the volume of the cylinder is
|> fixed, the
|> volume of the balloon can't change either.  Since the balloon's
|> volume doesn't
|> change, neither does the pressure.  There are no thermal effects.
    Though the volume would remain the same, The pressure would increase
(?) as there is the extra weight of liquid on the balloon and the temp.
would increase according to PV/T = const. My thermody. funda's aren't
too strong so please alter soln. as is reqd.
						Regards,
							Srikant.