From: keith@clodii.columbiasc.NCR.COM (Keith Boyd)
Subject: Re: Another: Need first rifle recommendation
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:02:16 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Sep8.074333.29128@doug.cae.wisc.edu> mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep2.065646.28556@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, chris@lightnin.columbiasc.NCR.COM () writes:
>|> In article <1992Sep1.061945.26406@doug.cae.wisc.edu> keith@clodii.columbiasc.NCR.COM (Keith Boyd) writes:
>|> >In article <1992Aug31.094543.12274@doug.cae.wisc.edu> mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato) writes:
>|> >>
>|> >>I too am looking for my first rifle, but not first gun. I grew
>|> >
>|> >[Stuff deleted]
>|> >
>|> >>Well, I'll eventually get into bow, but for now I though picking up a rifle
>|> >>and still gun hunting would get better results quicker.
>|> >>
>|> >>30-30 lever actions seem to be pretty popular as a good short range rifle
>|> >>for most of the woods around here, but I was thinking more about a 30-06 
>|> >>                ^^^^^
>|> >
>|> >Hey Michael, I will extend the same advice to you as I did to Matt
>|> >Harrington. I recommend the .270 winchester.
>|> >
>|> > stuff deleted
>|> >
>|> >The .270
>|> >is good for 200-300yd shots so why not just start out with the .270??
>|> >            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> >Good Luck..
>|> >
>|> >Keith
>|> 
>|>      The original poster made references to hunting in the "woods",
>|> and the follow-up article made reference to long shots (200-300yds).
>|> I have hunted in a lot of different areas---woods and fields
>|> included---and chose my shots accordingly.  I use a 30-06 because of
>|> its' versatility: 180gr in areas with undergrowth and folliage and 55
>|> gr at 150+ yds.
>|>     Irregardless (sp?) of what you do choose for a rifle Mike, keep in
>|> mind that its' versatility in shot is also important.
>

Apparently I did not make my point very clear in my first response
so I will try again. Mike seemed undecided between 30-30 caliber
rifles, and faster guns like the .30-06, for hunting in dense woods.
I recommended the .270 because it works as well as any caliber in
dense woods (IMHO) and has the added advantage of being a fairly flat
shooter at the 200-300yd range. This way, if Mike ever got the chance
to hunt somewhere that was wide open, he would still be able to use
the one gun where as if he went with the 30-30 caliber, he would be
limited in range (again MHO) and may need another rifle. 



>Could someone give me a run down of what grain bullets are available
>for both the 30-06 and the 270? Or at least re-assure me that the
>range is sufficient for the 270?
>

Looking at the latest Gander Mountain Reloading catalog, I see factory
rounds available from 90 grns up to the 160 grn bullet in .270 cal. 
For .30-06, they carry ammo ranging from the 55 grn. Remington Sabot
round up to 220 grn soft points. So, the latter has a wider range of
ready made factory ammo available. I guess the .270 is limited some
what by it's slightly smaller diameter and longer case length. BTW,
this a really good little catalog. Call them at 1-800-558-9410 for
a copy.
 
Keith (Just 34 days till gun season!)
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