HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Boston-area brewpubs (was: where is 33 dunster street?)
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:51:42 GMT
	<1992Aug17.175449.6322@news.media.mit.edu>
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: carltonj@media.mit.edu's message of 17 Aug 92 17:54:49 GMT


In article <1992Aug17.175449.6322@news.media.mit.edu> carltonj@media.mit.edu (Carlton J. Sparrell) writes:

   In article <RSHAPIRO.92Aug17121539@kariba.bbn.com> rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) writes:

[snip]

   >Speaking of brew-pubs, I recently tried the newest one in town, Boston
   >Beer Works (near Fenway Park). I was not impressed either with their
   >German-style beer or with their "flagship" Red Ale; and the food was
   >mediocre at best. I'd rate this place third after Cambridge Brewing
   >Company (1st) and Commonwealth Brewery (2nd). Cambridge's Pale Ale is
   >still the best brew in town, though like most brew-pub brew, it's
   >somewhat inconsistent.

   I've been to the B.B. Works a couple of times and would rate it above the
   Commonwealth, but below Cambridge Brewco.

   I would agree that you should stay away from their lighter "German-style"
   brews, but I found some of the darker brews, especially their Oatmeal
   Stout to be rather good.  I did like their Red Ale, but found it
   inconsistent between the two times I was there.  I think this
   inconsistancy may be one of their problems, as this also plagued
   Cambridge Brewing Co when they first opened.  I only ate there once, but
   I found the food to be good for a brew pub.  Reminder: If you decide to
   go, make sure the Sox are not in town.

I had the Red the two times I was there and liked it both times.  
'Nother data point...the food was pretty good too.

   I haven't been to the Commonwealth Brewery for quite some time.  I
   stopped going there after I realized how weak their brew was.  I had been
   there several times drinking all evening and had never left with anything
   more than a slight buzz (I have heard many similar stories from other
   people).  Not that alcohol content is what I look for in a good beer,
   but I don't like wasting my money on near-beer.  (If this has changed in
   the 13+ months since I was last there, let me know and I'll give them
   another chance).

Commonweath is pretty erratic IMHO.  I stick with the amber and I 
never know if I'll be horses de combat after one pint or still waiting
for a buzz after six.  
--
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From: krakauer@asdg.enet.dec.com (David Krakauer)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: where is 33 dunster street?
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:10:09 GMT
Reply-To: krakauer@asdg.enet.dec.com (David Krakauer)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Aug15.050822.3762@smds.com>, sammy@smds.com (Samuel Murphy) writes:
|>In article <18-JNEWS-2.1@wonky.UUCP> ornoth@wonky.UUCP (David A. Liscomb) writes:
|>>Went out behind the Garage (tm) with a friend.
|>>Was thoroughly stunned.
|>>Funny message about Mr. Harvard, if I recall correctly.
|>>Je suis sans clue.
|>>
|>>Can someone pleeeese issue me a clue?
|>
|>It may be defunct. I saw some white paper on the window the 
|>other day with what sounded like a new restarant come-on.
|>
|>In any case, it is/was(?) directly below the Souper salad.
|>
|>-Sam

The rumor I've heard is that 33 Dunster is either being replaced
by or being renovated into a brewery.

The white sign in the window said something to the effect of
revealing John Harvard for what he really was.  My guess is that
John Harvard, like Samual Adams, was a brewer.


				---krak
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Status of Mary Chung's
Date: 23 Aug 92 02:42:04 GMT
	<1992Aug20.205130.11657@aquila.sni-usa.com>
	<7089@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> <7092@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central

Bill> == Bill Lambert <blamb@rodan.hri.com> 

 Bill> You're right, I could use 'n', but at this point, when I see
 Bill> the MC words in the title of an article, my leg twitches :-)

You could always learn to use a KILL file.

Of course, it might also help if someone fixed your news software not to
generate message IDs like "<7092@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>" and Sender:
lines like "news@hri.com.hri.com".

Unless, of course, you have offices in Pago Pago and Walla Walla, and
sponsored the Duran Duran tour. :)
--
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Status of Mary Chung's
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:22:10 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research

Personally, I'm getting tired of the semi-monthly Mary
Chung discussion. Please don't start again about which
is better - Mary's General Haig Chicken, or some else's
Dog Drop Soup.

After about a year and half of this, I wish Mary would
move to Mobile Alambama and open a chinese cajun place.

Yes.... I've eaten at her old restaurant, and I found
nothing to deserve the "legendary" status that some people
seem to want to crown her with.
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Status of Mary Chung's
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:24:54 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research


> In article <7089@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>,
blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
> > Personally, I'm getting tired of the semi-monthly Mary

In article <1992Aug21.152346.29724@athena.mit.edu>,
mock@space.mit.edu (Patrick C. Mock) writes:
                
> That's what "n" is for or better yet "u".  The last discussion I saw
> was in mid-June.

All the way back in June, eh? Geeze.... and I thought it was just
a short time ago.

> The last news I heard was that Mary had a hearing for a common victualer's
> license last June.  The location is 599 Mass. Ave.  I haven't heard 
> anything about an opening date.

I'm sure you and perhaps 300 others will let us all know.
No offense, but the ng is ne.food, not ne.non_food. There
are plenty of restaurants that are open that people could
talk about.

You're right, I could use 'n', but at this point, when I see
the MC words in the title of an article, my leg twitches :-)

Newsgroups: ne.food
From: david@monitor.com
Subject: Tai Pan at CambridgeSide
Keywords: Chinese Cambridge
Reply-To: david@monitor.com
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:47:43 GMT

Tai Pan, a Chinese restaraunt, just opened in the CambridgeSide Galleria (the  
mall at the original Lechmere Sales, by the Lechmere T stop)

I got take out last night, so I cannot yet comment on the service, but the  
decor seems rather nice.  Kind of dark, with tinted glass overlooking the  
Cinnabon across the mall corridor. There is a full bar.

The dinner prices are rather outrageous for the quality of food.  All the  
dishes run from $8 to $11.  I got the Kung Pao chicken.  It was recognizable  
as Kung Pao, but the celery index was too high (I believe there is an inverse  
relationship between quality of Chinese food and quantity of celery.)  The  
"spicy" dishes aren't served very hot unless you ask for more heat.  I should  
have.  In defense of the dish, there were a few of those little pepper bombs  
that I could have eaten or smashed into the food.  I am not normally  
sensitive to MSG, but I thought I could taste it in this dish.  Again, I  
believe you can ask for no MSG.

The luncheon specials run from $4.25 (spare rib, garlic noodles, hot & sour  
soup) up to around $6.  They are probably a pretty good deal, especially  
considering that the only competition in the area is from a disgusting greasy  
takeout stand in the Mall's Food Festival Court.


Dave Adams 
Monitor Company Information Engineering
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Brazilian Restaurant in Maynard
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:37:16 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research


There is a rather new restaurant in Maynard center called
"A Taste of Brazil". It is in the site that formerly was
Kiku, a not-bad (for Maynard) small Japanese restaurant
that closed - much to my disappointment - last year.

Could someone please tell about their experience at "A Taste
of Brazil", and also, if someone is familiar with Brazilian
food in general, give us a brief exposee'?

Email is OK if you are shy, but I suppose a lot of people
might be interested.

- Bill Lambert
From: ornoth@wonky.UUCP (David A. Liscomb)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: where is 33 dunster street?
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:59:59 GMT

Went out behind the Garage (tm) with a friend.
Was thoroughly stunned.
Funny message about Mr. Harvard, if I recall correctly.
Je suis sans clue.

Can someone pleeeese issue me a clue?

-David A. Liscomb                    This package sold by weight, not
 Systems Programming Team Leader     by volume. Some settling may occur
 MediQual Systems Inc.               during shipment.
 Westborough, MA USA

Your_Insult: Go tear off playboy bear's apparel and evict the highly
             endangered mule with it.
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Status of Mary Chung's
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:36:26 GMT

In article <7092@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>All the way back in June, eh? Geeze.... and I thought it was just
>a short time ago.

Not if we're talking about a rumored reopening.

>No offense, but the ng is ne.food, not ne.non_food. There
>are plenty of restaurants that are open that people could
>talk about.

Fuck you, too, you creep.  Then start doing it instead of
disparaging what others are interested in.

>You're right, I could use 'n', but at this point, when I see
>the MC words in the title of an article, my leg twitches :-)

That's not a leg twitch, it's a knee jerk.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: mock@space.mit.edu (Patrick C. Mock)
Subject: Re: Status of Mary Chung's
Originator: mock@benz
Reply-To: mock@space.mit.edu (Patrick C. Mock)
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:23:46 GMT


In article <7089@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
> Personally, I'm getting tired of the semi-monthly Mary
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's what "n" is for or better yet "u".  The last discussion I saw
was in mid-June.

The last news I heard was that Mary had a hearing for a common victualer's
license last June.  The location is 599 Mass. Ave.  I haven't heard 
anything about an opening date.

Pat


Newsgroups: ne.food
From: jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz)
Subject: "Champagne Grapes"
Organization: Guest of Steven Dyer Consulting
Distribution: ne
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:28:01 GMT

We bought a bag of Champagne grapes at Russo's in Watertown
for $1.19 a pound.  What a treat!  Tiny (1/6 inch) grapes,
very sweet, with no seeds and stems tender enough to eat
(just the last part that goes into the berry).

I have no idea what type of grapes they really are, I'd
guess they are what are dired to become Zante currents.
-- 
     Jerry Natowitz
     Guest user on:
ARPA jin@ursa-major.spdcc.com
UUCP {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!jin
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: hersh@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Jay Hersh)
Subject: Re: Boston-area brewpubs (was: where is 33 dunster street?)
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:40:35 GMT

rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) writes:

>>The rumor I've heard is that 33 Dunster is either being replaced
>>by or being renovated into a brewery.

>Another Cambridge brew-pub would be nice, and 33 Dunster was always
>something of a waste of space imho.

>Speaking of brew-pubs, I recently tried the newest one in town, Boston
>Beer Works (near Fenway Park). I was not impressed either with their
>German-style beer or with their "flagship" Red Ale; and the food was
>mediocre at best. I'd rate this place third after Cambridge Brewing
>Company (1st) and Commonwealth Brewery (2nd). Cambridge's Pale Ale is
>still the best brew in town, though like most brew-pub brew, it's
>somewhat inconsistent.


IMHO the food is better  than at Cambridge, but I would agree
that I still think they other 2 are better brewers, but I would
point out that all 3 brew very clean and respectable beers, certainly
better than a lot of other brew pubs I've been in (Rock Bottom or
Champions in Denver, Buffalo Bill's in Hayward Cal., Latches in 
Brattleboro, 3 Dollar Dewey's in Portland Maine, etc.....)
so don't get too self righteous :-)


	JaH




--
Hopfen und Malz, Gott erhalts
There is nothing open about OpenGL
From: alexm@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Alex Milshteyn)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Fuzzi in Atrium Mall in Newton - opinions?
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:13:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mass General Hospital CIPR

Does anyone know anything about this restaurant?
Name - Fizzi;
Location - Atrium Mall in Newton, off Rt9 E
Cuisine - said to be italian
Phone# - 965-7707
 
All/any info would be appreciated (E-mail, please).
  
TIA (thanks in advance)
   
Alexander M. Milshteyn <alexm@cipr-server.MGH.Harvard.Edu>
From: saldort_uc@pearl.tufts.edu (SCOTT M. ALDORT)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: The Iguana Cafe vs. Sol Azteca
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:20:00 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <18699@bunny.GTE.COM>, maw2@gte.com (Michael Weintraub) writes...
> 
>In keeping on the thread for the search for good mex/tex-mex/sw food,
>has anyone tried "picante" in Davis Square (Sommerville - I believe that
>is the restaurant's name).
> 
>Still lookin' for good food,  and no,  I never lived in the southwest.
> 

Yes, many times. Usually I order their burrito, which is tasty, quite filling,
and costs $3.95. They also have a help-yourself salsa bar with all different
sorts of sauces. I think this place is great, but someone who is used to cheap
& delicious Mexican cuisine (as is found in the southwest) will probably be
disappointed. 

Scott
From: gonzalez@bbn.com (Jim Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Beer Serving Sizes And Alcohol Content
Date: 17 Aug 1992 22:49:32 GMT
Reply-To: gonzalez@BBN.COM (Jim Gonzalez)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <RSHAPIRO.92Aug17181402@kariba.bbn.com> rshapiro@bbn.com 
(Richard Shapiro) writes:

>One peculiarity at BBW: you can buy beer by the pitcher, the pint or
>the "half-pint", but the last is actually 12 oz! A very strange
>measuring system... Cambridge sells beer by the pitcher, the yard, the
>pint and the "glass", the last being a 9 oz serving. 

In Ireland and Scotland, ale is sold in "pints" and "glasses".  Pints
are 20 ounces, and glasses are half that.  When I was in Canada, years
ago, gasoline was sold in by the "imperial gallon", which was 5 US
quarts.  The pattern appears to be that their liquid measures are
simply 20% larger.  Odd, considering that we use the "English" system.

Alcohol content is determined by the amount of fermentable sugar, and
the characteristics of the yeast(s) used.  Different styles result in
differences in both of these elements.  My observation in Ireland and
Scotland was that their ale was fairly low in alcohol, while colleagues
who've been to Germany say that their ales pack quite a wallop.  The
variation that one poster observed between visits may be attributed to
inconsistency between batches for a given style (these aren't
Anheuser-Busch plants, so they're free to play with the measurements),
different styles, or physiological factors.

				-Jim.
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Boston-area brewpubs (was: where is 33 dunster street?)
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:49:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.032608.4227@redsox.bsw.com> campbell@redsox.bsw.com  
(Larry Campbell) writes:
> 
> I must differ with previous posters on this.  I find the beer
> at the Boston Beer Works to be rather mediocre (I've tried all

So far just about everyone has trashed this place, so I will stick my neck out  
so people are not turned off and will try it out for themselves--I've been  
twice and the food was much better than Cambridge or Commonwealth Brewery. We  
had a group of six people and everyone who had an opinion agreed the food was  
not gourmet, but good. As far as beer is concerned, I've had only the darker  
beers (the nut brown ale, stout, and red) and agree with Mary Malmros  
(mary@cayman.com) that these are worth investigating. Maybe there is an  
inconsistency problem, but I haven't been enough times to tell. Check it out  
for yourself!

> Cambridge Brewery once, about two or three years ago, and it
> was _horrible_.  Mediocre beer, horrible food, surly and error-prone

I like their Charles River Porter.

> However, I must speak up for the Commonwealth Brewery.  Yes, the

Their "authentic" beers seem warmer and flatter than similar beers I've had in  
English pubs. Do they try too hard to be authentic?

> (P.S. - if ya wanna buzz, drink Haffenreffer.)
Ulch! That beer was tainted... :')
-- 
_________________________________________  ________________________________
Michael T. "I'm only a peon in my company\ \ Information Engineering
so obviously my opinions do not represent/ / Monitor Company, Cambridge, MA
those of my employers" Johnson           \ \ michael@monitor.com
From: voydock@sni-usa.com (Vic Voydock)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Status of Mary Chung's
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:51:30 GMT
Reply-To: voydock@sni-usa.com (Vic Voydock)
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf Information Systems, Inc. Cambridge, MA

Mary Chung's restaurant in Central Sq. Cambridge closed last year when
her lease ran out and
Biogen wanted the space.  She was supposed to reopen at a nearby
location in the Spring of 92.

This did not happen.  Does anyone know what's going on?  Will the
restaurant reopen?

Thanks.

Vic
From: manes@bu-pub.bu.edu (Michelle Manes)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: The Iguana Cafe vs. Sol Azteca
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:29:06 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University

After reading all this, I finally tried Sol Azteca.  Sigh.
Are we transplanted Californians doomed to the fate of
mediocre-at-best Mexican food?  Ah well, I fly out tommorow
morning for 4 glorious days in So. Cal.  Real Mex, here I come...

Anyway, about Sol Azteca:
I had the mole poblano.  Fair.  That's the best I can say.  The
mole at Casa Mexico in Harvard Sq. beats it -- not even a fair fight.
My SO had some huge combo plate or other.  He also thought it was
"ok".  The Mexican coffee was also ok, nothing great.  Still
like Casa Mexico better.

Service was wonderful, tho.  We finished off the tiny bowl of salsa after 
about five chips.  The waiter whisked it away and brought back a
bucket-sized bowl of salsa with a big smile.  Our water glasses were
never empty, and the food was delivered fast and hot.

Overall impression:  it was an acceptable dining experience, but not
really worth the price.  So...where is the Iguana Cafe?

michelle 
-- 
Michelle Manes		|	"What should I be when I grow up?"
manes@bass.bu.edu	|	"Honest."
			|	-Robert M. Pirsig
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: carltonj@media.mit.edu (Carlton J. Sparrell)
Subject: Re: Boston-area brewpubs (was: where is 33 dunster street?)
Summary: beer is good
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:54:49 GMT

In article <RSHAPIRO.92Aug17121539@kariba.bbn.com> rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) writes:
>>The rumor I've heard is that 33 Dunster is either being replaced
>>by or being renovated into a brewery.
>
>Another Cambridge brew-pub would be nice, and 33 Dunster was always
>something of a waste of space imho.

I would definitely agree with that.

>Speaking of brew-pubs, I recently tried the newest one in town, Boston
>Beer Works (near Fenway Park). I was not impressed either with their
>German-style beer or with their "flagship" Red Ale; and the food was
>mediocre at best. I'd rate this place third after Cambridge Brewing
>Company (1st) and Commonwealth Brewery (2nd). Cambridge's Pale Ale is
>still the best brew in town, though like most brew-pub brew, it's
>somewhat inconsistent.

I've been to the B.B. Works a couple of times and would rate it above the
Commonwealth, but below Cambridge Brewco.

I would agree that you should stay away from their lighter "German-style"
brews, but I found some of the darker brews, especially their Oatmeal
Stout to be rather good.  I did like their Red Ale, but found it
inconsistent between the two times I was there.  I think this
inconsistancy may be one of their problems, as this also plagued
Cambridge Brewing Co when they first opened.  I only ate there once, but
I found the food to be good for a brew pub.  Reminder: If you decide to
go, make sure the Sox are not in town.

I haven't been to the Commonwealth Brewery for quite some time.  I
stopped going there after I realized how weak their brew was.  I had been
there several times drinking all evening and had never left with anything
more than a slight buzz (I have heard many similar stories from other
people).  Not that alcohol content is what I look for in a good beer,
but I don't like wasting my money on near-beer.  (If this has changed in
the 13+ months since I was last there, let me know and I'll give them
another chance).

Cambridge Brewing Co. still comes out on top, no question there.

Cheers,

CJS

Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: request: NEC PC-VCR
Organization: Clark University
Date: 12 AUG 92 18:24:25 GMT

In a previous article, perelet@avignon.wri.com (Oleg Perelet) wrote:
>Does anybody uses it?
>Any recomendations?suggestions?
>Thax.
>--
>Oleg Perelet
>perelet@wri.com

I've used the PC-VCR quite a bit.  I thought it was a great VCR unto itself, 
and the computer interface worked well.  I didn't like the PC software much.  
The Mac SW was really just an interface, but if you worked at it, you could 
get it to do anything.  I wrote some controlling SW in MM Director, and got it 
to do just about everything.

Unfortunately, NEC was hoping to sell plenty more than they did, and have 
stopped selling it.  Last year's MacWorld had a huge display for the PC-VCR.  
Didn't see a one this year.

I think NEC just didn't know how to market the thing.  For most of the life of 
the VCR, they sold it only through their pro-video dealers (large projection 
screens, etc).  They didn't know the computer end of it.  Then they brought it 
into the computer channel through mfg reps, which wasn't too bad.  But they 
didn't give it much of a chance.

Bottom line - too bad its gone.  If I saw one at a good price, I'd buy one in 
a minute.  I think panasonic has a similar model, but its not frame accurate.  
Sony has a similar Hi-8 model, but I don't know much about it.

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