From: bkannan@HA07.ENG.UA.EDU (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Yet More Excerpts
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:20:55 GMT




>>potturi@cs.uh.edu (Rahi Prakash Potturi)

>Mr. Arun Gupta writes:

<Re: Muslim Situation in India
<
<I would like to point out that Mohammed Nejatullah Siddiqui, whose
<credentials are : Professor of Economics in a university in Saudi
<Arabia, is, as far as I know, an Indian. If you read closely, you
<would see that he was formerly of Aligarh Muslim University. In
<any case, he is no more responsible for what goes in Saudi Arabia
<than you, dear reader, are for what goes on in the U.S. (if you
<are not a citizen of the U.S. , that is.)
<
< [stuff deleted]
<-arun gupta
<ag3L@andrew.cmu.edu


>>.My question is why should anyone be dealt with as a muslim, hindu or a
>>sikh. If your conscience is clear you can deal with them as individuals
>>and as citizens of India.

>> [stuff deleted]

>>what is the use of talking about all these scholars' opinions. They hardly
>>are aware of the ground reality. An average muslim (like an auto mechanic or 
>>a construction worker) will never give you the reasons that these scholars
>>give for his penury. Muslims' problems do not lie in discrimination by
>>the rluers or the antagonism of the Hindu fundementalists. Instead, their
>>problems lie in the lack of education and some badly wanted leadership.
>>Muslim leadership, IMO, has always been either too elitist or too selfish
>>(even by the Indian political standards) or even both atonce. Syed Shaha-
                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>buddin is a perfect example of the first kind, while Salahuddin Owaisi
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   Wasn't he the guy who wanted  Muslims to Boycott the Republic Day?
   Talk of leadership! Maybe the Institute of Objective studies in
   Saudi Arabia should throw some light on the Muslim Leadership in
   India. I mean, that will help us ignorant(yet bloodthirsty) Hindoos 
   realize how much they have done to bridge the misunderstandings between
   the two communities. Actually there might be a lot of such Institutes
   There is probably one in Iran named after the Ayotollah and one in  
   Pakistan named after Jinnah? The scholars of these institutes should
   come forward with "astounding theories" (so that it can be picked
   up by the (alleged) dwindling minority of "secular liberals" on sci
   to educate the already educated but illiterate muslim-blood-thirsty-Hindoos)
   as to why hindoos hold forth such stupid views about communal riots being
   caused by "downtrodden  Muslims" who have all along history preached
   tolerance right from the days of Aurangzeb except for the ocassional
   communal characters like Kabirdas and Badshah Akbar who incited the
   Muslims into pricking the Hindu hearts.

                                            Incidentally, there is an
   "Institute of Subjective Studies" in Sharjah (that Mecca of neutral
    umpires and Unbiased Cricketing decisions sans the occasional scorn
    for bad-daylight rules) that is Researching why the Muslims who
    are such a prosperous community elsewhere in the world, so downtrodden
    all over India(Can U imagine being more downtrodden than a Hindoo?)
    in the midst of a ocean called "Hindoo Majority".
 
                                              Who says the peacock
    throne was stolen by Nadir Shah? Only the Shah part of it could
    be right because of its certain Indianness. It was the Hindoos lead by
    Dayanand Saraswati and Chandra Swami(no dearth of Hindoo Swamis
    in this quagmire called Hindoostan!) that smuggled this dazzling
    artispiece through Spain-France-Germany-Soviet-Union, were held
    back by the KGB for a brief interrogation ( KGB generally fears
    these Hindoo Swamis because most of them turn out to be CIA
    agents), were asked to go straight to India instead of a detour
    through the U.S. The Iranians merely retrieved their property
    by non-violent negotiations with the Hindoos.(The Hindoos first had
    to be briefed about this abstract principle called Non-violence)
    Justice done!. For those of you who are curious about the influence
    these Swamis have, they have holdings in the BHHI(Bank of Hindoos &
    Hoodlums International)
    
                    And for all you Hindoo fundamentalists that keep
   talking about Ram, Krishna, Brhama and one of those 350 million non-
   existent Hindoo Gods and Godesses, you are living in an illusory world
   if you think that India is a Hindoo Civilzation. This is the biggest
   lie that the Bhramins have uttered yet(discounting for Adi Sankara's
   lies and the occasional lies that the Hindoo politicians who by force
   of habit keep uttering). India was densely populated with Muslims who
   were a very tolerant faith that they embraced these nomadic groups
   with a-God-a-Minute rituals. These nomadic groups slowly overpopulated
   themselves not really knowing what they were doing and of course
   once they knew what they were doing plotted their way into doing
   more of it, so that they could drive out the original inhabitants. Poor
   fellows like Babar, Aurangazeb and Ghazni were driven out by the
   diabolic conspiracy hatched by the Bhramins that they ended up in
   the streets of Istanbul. This is a later day theory that is being
   Researched by the "Tadzikistan Institute of Objective Analysis
   of Violent Religions from a Non-Violent Islamic Perspective" and 
   is being test marketed on SCI.Presto! There you go.
 
                                       There are more such theories
   and with this sudden burst of creative thinking in the Middle East
   one only has to sit and watch for them being posted on SCI.
   Any of you Hindoo fellows who should find this difficult to chew(leave
   alone digest) should think rationally, objectively, analytically
   and Non-Hindooically to accept these theories. If only there were
   more enlightened and gullible Hindoos on this net the secular liberals
   in my mould wouldn't have to go through the trouble of pontification
   and would come forward with more forthright views.


PS: I know a lot of Ram Bakths out there who have already reached boiling
    point that any time now U might request the VHP cadres to begin the 
    demolition of the Babri Mosque. Sad day indeed!

                       For every theory that some stupid Hindoo comes
    up with(like Hindoos being non-violent and muslims being the real
    trouble-makers) there are thousands of objectively studied theories
    (Yes in Saudi Arabia) that the reverse is reality. So ,I give a damn 
    to what you think about all this but if you are still interested in
    going my way, please dial 1-800-HINDOO-VILIFICATION. You will not
    get any recorded messages(like AT&T) but the sweet voice of His Majesty
    Chandra Gupta Maurya who has recently taken it upon himself to purge
    us all of the moral blabbery that is Hindooism and who admits that his 
    period in history was one of misrule guided by the bhraminic-satanic
    precepts of Hindooism. By the way,Chandra Gupta Maurya has recently
    written a book on "Simian Roots of Hinduism" published by Penguin India,
    that is among the "New York Times'" best selling list.
 
   If someone should be annoyed by these facts dug out deep from the sands of
   Arabia then I reccomend that you take a dip in the unholy rivers of
   India that only have corpses floating in them. 

   
>(Majlis, Hyderabad) is an example of the second type. They hardly care for
>>an average suffering muslim. Shahabuddin's interests lie in devising 
>>fabulous thories like 'seige mentality' of muslims etc. and generally
>>promote himself in the media rather than do any serious groundwork at
>>the grass roots level. And those that do have a grass root understanding,
>>like Sulatan Salahuddin Owaisi are too busy making monetary profits or 
>>forcing their fundementalist opinions on the gullible populace causing
>>violence and bloodshed.


>>Regards,

>>Rahi Potturi
>>(potturi@cs.uh.edu)


  Balaji Kannan