HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Subject: Re: Flat spell STOPS!
Keywords: Flatspell
Reply-To: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:58:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.012116.3936@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> dinyw@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Diny Walker) writes:

> Well the flat spell continues along the northern beaches of Sydney looking at
>the weather map it looks like it might continue for a while yet. This winter
>has been quite bad here for waves the banks at Newport and Avalon have been
>really bad. There's been too much sand on the peak rock at Newport = an 
>inconsistant break usually the left screams through winter. 

Welcome to the net, Diny.  At least, this is the first post of yours
I've seen.  However, while Tues and Thurs (repeat of Tues Surf Report,
basically) were small, today (Friday, 11 Sept) it looked like the swell
had picked up a bit and there were easily head-high waves coming in.
At least a meter from the back.  I caught many fun rides, and was
totally tubed (I don't count it if I don't come out) twice.  YOWZA.
Maroubra was definitely fun.  It wasn't a secret, as there were lots
more people out when I first arrived (and that was earlier than the
last two times).  

>Anyway I hope the spell dosen't last too much longer cause Its getting boring 
>no surf no fun.

No longer!  So you east coast aussies ought to get your gear down
da beach.  Hope Nig and Jim catch some!  

>   Cheers 

Likewise.  -- Clark

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           "A California Yankee in the Land of Oz"
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing vs. Working
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:13:54 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In article <pqcv4ns@fido.asd.sgi.com> airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:
>
>
>    Now I want to get the best possible cold water wetsuit for this winter. 
>    $$$ no barrier. I want at least a 4/3, but I'd like some shoulder freedom. 


If you want the warmest wetsuit around, check out Second Skin.  It's the only
wetsuit officially recommended by the Scottish Surfing Federation
after through testing in frigid, scottish waters.  We are talking about
water temperatures that get down to 40 F and colder due to snowmelt
from streams and rivers.  All their wetsuits are custom made.  Write for
their brochure at:


  Second Skin
  Exeter Road
  Braunton, North Devon
  United Kingtom


Cheers,

Chris
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa)
Subject: Re: Surfing vs. Working
Organization: HP,NADO Santa Clara, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:33:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.190055.10577@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
> In article <1992Sep12.212039.19790@ra.msstate.edu> rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Robert M. Opalko) writes:
 
> Yeah, of course I can relate.  Maybe all us surf bum hackers should band 
> together and start a software company based in some awesome surf
> location away from the mobs.  With good marketing and advertising, it could
> be a winner.

another friend of mine worked off and on with a construction company that
was surfer-owned. the name of the company?

	Not when the surf's up Construction Company.

there fore... how about:

	Not when the surf's up Computing Company.

it's a hit.


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   * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: Surf Report, San Diego North County
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:54:33 GMT

g9024557@cc.uow.edu.au (James Phillip ANDREW) writes:
 
>Jim WnW + "A homosapien in the land od Oz"
>Headlands 
(You don't live there,you live in my old bed-room)...
>Wollongong

>P.S. Had some nice waves at Sharkies (400m north of Headlands) this am. Messy
>swell but no wind and no one out. 

I went for a surf at sharkies in the afternoon (12-1:30) on my 6'8".
It was messy swell with a cross/on shore wind.
Not much to brag about really.
I did get one good wave... big-deal.
Jim: I'm super-keen to surf Virgins when the swell picks up.
I'm a bit nervous about it really..... :-0
Do you think it's worth buying a helmet Jim ????
I know you don't surf with a helmet,but seen as though I'm
getting into reef waves I may as well buy a helmet.
I think I'd paint some crazy design on it.
I had a look at virgies today,but it wasn't really happening.
Although it's a bit difficult to tell.
The barrells that came through did look
to be closing out and sub-sea-level grinders.
IE You couldn't actually see the wave face when it zipped like 
it does, due to the white water and water in the fore-ground.
Just my aus $0.0235667 worth.

Bye,
Nigel.

Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: Why professional surfing sucks
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:03:49 GMT

mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:

>Personally, I prefer dole surfers to pros, because they
>tend to less agro.

Probably cause they get as much surf as they want and smoke heaps of
pot ....  * *
	   ?
	  ===

>Why is it good for surfing to be respectable?  

Cause then employers don't show you the door the minute you walk in 
looking like you just stepped out of the surf.

>Does a traveling circus make it more respectable?

To some.... businessmen,non-surfer's,sports presenter's,the general public,
the media.

>Chris
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report - SIO
Keywords: Small
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:49:40 GMT

Well, there doesn't appear to be 
much surf today, but I am only looking at
SIO.  The waves are small.
There isn't any thing visable 
at the La Jolla cove or Blacks
from here.  Though as usual I 
don't mean to say that there aren't
waves out there somewhere.
That's the daily surf report for
SIO.

Tod

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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: North Shore survives hurricane Iniki.
From: kiwong@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kinsley Wong)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:31:26 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <1992Sep14.002642.23213@news.Hawaii.Edu> gordo@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Gordon C. Smith) writes:
Stuff deletes....

Thank for the Surf Report..., Wish I were there to surf Pipeline.  I miss 
surfing Pipeline and Rocky Point...

Soon I shall be there....
>


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From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: South Swell in SD ??????
Keywords: HUH???
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:29:58 GMT

That South that was supposed to materialize never
seemed to hit here at SIO. 
I can't speak for Blacks as I was to 
busy to check there.
I had a friend tell me that Moonlight
was OK, but small today.
That's second hand info though.
I surfed yesterday in the AM,
small, fun waves and like Mike
said I expected today to be classic.
Hope somebody got waves.

I'm riding the bus in tomorrow, so I should have
an early am report for SD tomorrow.

Tod



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Scripps Institution of Oceanography   |
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: No Harm Meant
Keywords: Note From the Top of the World
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:46:29 GMT

Everybody knows that Santa Claus lives at
the North Pole, the top of the world.
And given that piece of info it follows that
Austrailia, and other Southern Hemishpere localities
are on the bottom half of the world. 
It just sounds nicer to say you live down under than
saying you live on the bottom. B-) 


Tod

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From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing vs. Working
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:04:52 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1992Sep14.101354.25672@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>
>If you want the warmest wetsuit around, check out Second Skin.  It's the only
>wetsuit officially recommended by the Scottish Surfing Federation
>after through testing in frigid, scottish waters.  We are talking about
>water temperatures that get down to 40 F and colder due to snowmelt
>from streams and rivers.  All their wetsuits are custom made.  Write for
>their brochure at:
>

From personal experience I can say that this will not be appreciably
warmer that one of those 5-4-3 jobbies with a built in hood from
the O'Neill shop in Santa Cruz. Those things are toasty warm ...
too warm for Santa Cruz I'd say (unless you are a warmth loving wimpo
that is .... ).

"Real men use marmite on their nether regions to prepare for cold water"

Mike
"A brit in yank land"

p.s. I'm off to Seattle, so you won't hear anything from me for a week or
so unless I can ge on the net from theer.
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing vs. Working
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:15:04 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <1992Sep13.190055.10577@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk writes:
> In article <1992Sep12.212039.19790@ra.msstate.edu> rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Robert M. Opalko) writes:
> >Everyone who reads this group know the feeling of surfing and how hard it is to
> >give up.  But is the economy so tight that I should grab the first job that
> >comes along?  I'm so tempted to give it all up to take a little fart job that
> >lets me surf whenever I want....
> >
> >  What to do... Can anyone relate?  Please offer some honest opinions.
> 
> 
> Yeah, of course I can relate.  Maybe all us surf bum hackers should band 
> together and start a software company based in some awesome surf
> location away from the mobs.  With good marketing and advertising, it could
> be a winner.
> 
> Chris


    The spot has to be the baja california penninsula.

    quatros casas, freighters, rincon baja are all within a day of San Diego and
    get a variety of swells. Not deserted, but not crowded by the standards of
    anybody living in the U.S. In fact I had trouble getting up enough adrenalin
    to surf well without a crowd to fight, even when the surf was overhead. 
    I think I've been warped by learning in crowded conditions.

    If your wife doesn't surf, however, it may be difficult to convince her to leave
    whatever exciting metropolis she currently resides in for the 3rd world environment
    of Mexico. I think this would be a stumbling block for me.

    By the way, I reported a while ago that my Body Glove Spider 4/3 was losing it
    at the seams after less than a year. I took it back to the surf shop after a 
    complete and total failure (my brother fully fried it while down in Baja)
    and they sent it back since it had a year guarantee on the seams. 
    We'll see what happens. 

    Now I want to get the best possible cold water wetsuit for this winter. 
    $$$ no barrier. I want at least a 4/3, but I'd like some shoulder freedom. 
    The 3/2 rip curl aqua ban that I used this summer seems pretty durable, and
    has very flexible shoulders,
    so I was thinking of getting whatever is their warmest suit. Its only problem
    is that the wrists are too loose and water gets in the arms. Would be nasty
    in 48F Santa Cruz water. I'd need to add straps at the wrists to seal them better.

    All the O'Neill accessories I have are top notch, booties, leashes, hood, but their
    wetsuits (heat series) look glued and taped to me which makes me 
    figure they'll do the same as the Body Glove. Any body got any opinions?
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report - SIO\
Keywords: Dropped, but OK
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:47:47 GMT

Hopefully I don't get in trouble for re posting this.
|SIO Weather:| Wind| Wind|Barom.| Air |Water Tmp| Tide|     Wave
Record:     |
| Date  Time |Speed|Dirct|Press.|Temp.|top - bot|Level| Date   Time
| Size|Pd|
Sep  5 07:50   0.0 115.2  29.93  65.8 65.3 61.9  4.50  Sep  5 04:18
35.5  5
 Sep  5 06:50   0.0 138.1  29.92  64.8 66.2 66.0  4.66  Sep  5 04:18
35.5  5
 Sep  5 05:50   0.0  81.4  29.91  64.8 66.6 66.0  4.57  Sep  5 01:16
42.7  5
 Sep  5 04:50   0.0  91.8  29.91  65.7 67.1 64.0  4.10  Sep  5 01:16
42.7  5
 Sep  5 03:50   0.0 154.7  29.91  65.7 66.7 62.6  3.55  Sep  5 01:16
42.7  5
 Sep  5 02:50   0.0  51.8  29.91  64.4 67.3 63.9  2.78
 0.0  0
 Sep  5 01:50   0.0  55.9  29.91  64.4 67.3 66.7  2.21
 0.0  0
 Sep  5 00:50   0.0  55.4  29.92  64.4 66.7 66.2  1.85
 0.0  0
 
Sorry about the format, but with a little work you should be able
to  figure that out. 

Measurements taken off of the SIO pier.

My report,
Yesterday was incredible, but this morning the surf has dropped.
Still some fun sets coming through, but nothing like yesterday.

tod
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Scripps Institution of Oceanography   |
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing vs. Working
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:02:58 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In article <1992Sep14.191805.27999@tfs.com> tab@tfs.com (Theresa Breckon) writes:
>
>What about husbands not surfing? Or is this a boy's only club? Luckily

IMHO this is definitely NOT a boy's only club.  Please continue posting
Theresa, it's refreshing to hear from a female voice. 

Chris
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surf Report SIO + Wet Suits
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:53:14 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow) writes:
Tod says: (Discussing buying a wetsuit)
....................I would take a day or two and
>go to several ski shops and try on as many boots
>as possible.  Not only try them on, but walk around
>in each pair for 15-20 minutes.
		  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>        This is how I have bought wetsuits.

Gee, by the end of the 20 minutes, you must be sweatin' like a pig!!!
I have an O'neil HEAT suit and love it. It is comfortable and no chafing
like my old Rash-Curl.

Nothing goin' on at this edge of the continent, I'll just respond inanely
to somebody's polite posting. This sucks...where is that hurricane season......
damn Pinatubo.....El Nino trash.......AAARRRRGGGHHHH.......I even miss
a pint of water draining out of my skull thru my nose when bending over.
On that subject, who else has drained sea water on their partner at
a compromising time...kinda kills the mood!.......I'd better get back to
work, I'm starting to ramble uselessly........
   O                                     There are two kinds of people:
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833       The people who know alot, and
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil         the people who want you to
  /     David Taylor Model Basin         think they know alot. The hard
   \___________________________          part is discerning the difference
			     \\          between the two.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: dinyw@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Diny Walker)
Subject: Flat spell continues Syd Aust
Summary: 8 days without waves
Keywords: Flatspell
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:21:16 GMT

 Well the flat spell continues along the northern beaches of Sydney looking at
the weather map it looks like it might continue for a while yet. This winter
has been quite bad here for waves the banks at Newport and Avalon have been
really bad. There's been too much sand on the peak rock at Newport = an 
inconsistant break usually the left screams through winter. 

The main problem is that once we get waves they'll be all over the joint, 
Anyway I hope the spell dosen't last too much longer cause Its getting boring 
no surf no fun.
   Cheers 
        Diny 
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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: tab@tfs.com (Theresa Breckon)
Subject: Re: Surfing vs. Working
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:29:22 GMT

In article <BuKr7H.MCA@scd.hp.com> hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa) writes:
>there fore... how about:
>
>	Not when the surf's up Computing Company.
>
Might have some problems with the abbrev....   NWT SUCC
From: crp5754@erfsys06.ca.boeing.com (chris payne)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report - Oregon USA
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:44:01 GMT
Organization: Boeing Electromagnetics & RF Systems, Seattle WA USA


Aloha gang,

Just spent a week wandering down the Oregon coast, which is why
the surfvey results haven't been posted yet.  I'll try to get to
it pretty soon, but first my trip report ( I don't have the form, 
and I'm not into structures anyway :) )

Surfed Haystack Rock on Tuesday (Sept 1).  Waves were shoulder high
with sideshore wind causing a little chop.  Occasional larger sets 
would roll through but these generally closed out, usually on my head :)
Water temps were somewhere between damn cold and F#%&ing freezing.

The rest of the week was spent in a little Bed and Breakfast overlooking
a beach which will remain nameless (somewhere between Lincoln City and
Newport).  Waves were generally small but very clean.  The water at
this beach always seems to be crystal clear, unlike many other spots in
the Pacific Northwest.  Even had a sea lion pop up about twenty feet away
from me. 

The B&B was great, rivaling some of the better ones we've stayed at in 
Scotland.  With our first child due at the end of this year, we felt 
this was our last chance to really pamper ourselves.

Wish I could report better surf, but hey, you roll the dice and take what
ya get, yeah?  Maybe John (Master of absolutely nothing) had better luck 
on his recent surfari.  What's the scoop Mr. Lake?  Score any monsters?


                          
              > >         Aloha,
         >      > >         Chris P. crp5754@erfsys01.boeing.com
     >        >   >>        Surfs-with-Turtles (and Sea Lions!) 
>             >    >      
               >          "We were friends who rode the waves,
                  >        the time we spent in our younger days,
                       >   was all in fun. Oh the good times that we had!"
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: tab@tfs.com (Theresa Breckon)
Subject: Re: Surfing vs. Working
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:18:05 GMT

>> Yeah, of course I can relate.  Maybe all us surf bum hackers should band 
>> together and start a software company based in some awesome surf
>> location away from the mobs.  With good marketing and advertising, it could
>> be a winner.
>> 
>> Chris

I vote Costa-Rica.

>    The spot has to be the baja california penninsula.
>    quatros casas, freighters, rincon baja are all within a day of San Diego and
>    get a variety of swells. Not deserted, but not crowded by the standards of
>    anybody living in the U.S.

Software company does not have to be based close to a customer base. In fact
I worked for 2 years developing, and finally marketing software from Oslo
Norway. We did our marketing in Europe and the US. We sold it to a
company in the US.

>    If your wife doesn't surf, however, it may be difficult to convince her to leave
>    whatever exciting metropolis she currently resides in for the 3rd world environment
>    of Mexico. I think this would be a stumbling block for me.

What about husbands not surfing? Or is this a boy's only club? Luckily
mine (to-be) surfs, and is a hacker-engineer. So we're in luck. 
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Robert M. Opalko)
Subject: Surfing vs. Working 
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:20:39 GMT

Hello all,

  I would like some honest opinions about a matter I've been unable to resolve
lately.

  I grew up three blocks from the beach in Surfside Beach, South Carolina. I
started surfing when I was 10. That was 15 years ago.  Not the greates surf
there, but good enough to keep me doing it for that long!  I went to a local
college, and graduated in 1990.  I convinced myself that I needed to go on
to graduate school, and for a variety of reasons, I ended up here at Ole Miss.

   I still surf whenver I go home (about every 2-3 months), but I will be grad-
uating in December with an M.S.  So I will start working full time then, and
my wife will be starting her PhD program.  Now everyone knows the state of the
economy, and I'm no different.  Of course I would love to get a job somewhere
close to a good break, but can I afford to be that choosy?  

   Yes, I've applied to places up and down both coasts, but so far the only 
responses have been from cities like Chicago, Denver, D.C.  I feel like I'm
pulled into a vortex that is workin 9-5 each day and commuting 3 hours more.
Everyone who reads this group know the feeling of surfing and how hard it is to
give up.  But is the economy so tight that I should grab the first job that
comes along?  I'm so tempted to give it all up to take a little fart job that
lets me surf whenever I want....

  What to do... Can anyone relate?  Please offer some honest opinions.
Keep surfing!!!

Bob Opalko
rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu


Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: 10692568@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (CARLOS LOPEZ)
Subject: SEX & surf
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:54:14 GMT



OK so this article has nothing to do about sex  so what.. this is more 
important though....

Currently i am involved in the design of artificial surf reefs for a couple 
of spots 'round ozland.  The project is really only into its baby stage and 
i just want to get some feedback into how the SURFER world feels about a 
couple of aspects in the running of the reef:
things such as : 

would the fact that there is this really kool wave at that spot influence 
many of you guys to visit that particular spot?

by how much yould tourism increase?

is it worthwile going through the trouble of designing this thing when there 
are plenty of other places where the wave is naturaly kool?

what touristic spots 'round Australia would you prefer this reef to be 
at?....by that i mean places like Surfers Paradise 'cause i went last year 
and encountered a kinda mutant amorphous shitty surf which cost me  three 
cuts in the leg and a back-fin .....perhaps it was just the season but.... 
HMMMMMM

ps : if you have more info mail me .i need some INFOOOO AHHHHH!!!