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Date: Sat,  9 Jan 1993 17:54:24 -0500 
From: Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Love Making & Sleep
	<93Jan09.062808.15122@acs.ucalgary.ca>

lastuka@acs.ucalgary.ca (Tina Lastuka) writes:
*****Jules and BDC discussion on sex, insomnia and relaxation deleted******
>     I usually don't sleep after... so what I need to know...
>    Being very unexperienced... etc.  
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*solemn voice* We understand Tina.

>      Is that you need to make love a few more times
>    the same night... (if your partner falls asleep
>   does this mean you have to go find another (or a few
>    more people))??? Or does this mean the more
>   often you make love you relax... so make love
>   every night for about two weeks so at the end of two
>   you should be relaxed and able to sleep?  
> 
>    Enquiring minds want to know!

I think Jules drift is a bit of both. Make it as much as you can every 
night. Just keep up the stamina bit though.

RickI, the RoadRunner
Heck, I don't need any relaxation aid. I'm ALWAYS relaxed!
Doesn't mean I'm averse to LoveRelaxationMethod though.
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From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Chivalry, Honor, Loss of Life...
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 03:55:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.194256.4939@mtu.edu> bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes:
>In article <phantasm.726030233@vincent1.iastate.edu> phantasm@iastate.edu () writes:
>>I can not find much honor in the way all sides fought these military actions...
>>Indeed, I am not sure that I can go so far as to agree that these actions were
>>very civilized...
>>I will grant that you are correct in your assessment of how history portrays
>>conduct in previous times... I grant that many of the practices of the Middle
>>Ages were also not civilized... But, if the issue is honor, I must hold firm
>>in my belief that the modern war machine does not consider honor to be part
>>of the codes of conduct, whereas the true Knight did...
>
>of course not. the war machine is exactly that, a machine. no room for
>honor. nor does it even necessarily apply at that level. the values
>you speak of here are personal values.
>
>for example. the Marines, as a group, cannot act honorably or become
>honorable. They have to instill honor into each individual in the group.
>The end result is a corps of ppl who believe in honor.

Oh, I think I must disagree with you on that point.  I think if you
ask just about anyone on the street if they thought that the Marine
Corps was an honorable service, I think you would find that most would
say so.  Alot of this has to do with the image of the Marines.
Because we are usually the first ones to hit the beaches, and given
the nasty jobs, people think we are somehow a little bit better.
Especially right now in Somalia.  The Marines are over there doing an
'honorable' deed in helping getting people fed.

I have to say, also, that if, as individuals, Marines believe in
honor, doesn't that mean that the Marine Corps as a whole is
honorable?

>same game, only the numbers and implementation have changed.

Agreed.  I think it interesting that if you really talk to someone in
the ArmedForces you will find that they really don't *want* to go to
war, because they know that they have the chance of being killed or
having to kill.  The 'game' of war is not a nice game to play, and if
the world were perfect, we wouldn't have to play it.

rip
-- 
Grab reality by the balls, and squeeze...
                                        Tempus
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From: puter@orphan.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Them 'man' pages
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:49:44 GMT

 rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) tugs at my softwear...

|Besides, you never said what *kind* of engineer you are.  If it is a
|*software* engineer, then I must agree with you.  You should read some
|of the 'man' pages around here....

My favorite...

$ man woman
man: woman not found

*sigh* *sniff*

-- 
(Puter is a deranged individual at puter@orphan.nashvil.ingr.com)
The object of teaching a child is to enable him to get along without his
teacher.						-- Elbert Hubbard
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From: johnsons@cheshire.oxy.edu (Sarah Curtis Johnson)
Subject: Re: I think I may stay for a time...
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:20:47 GMT

In article <phantasm.726425468@vincent1.iastate.edu> phantasm@iastate.edu () writes:
>
>In the extremely short time I have looked around, I have noticed that the
>geography is somewhat chaotic... I find chocolate footprints everywhere I go...
>Mountains suddenly appear and flowers spontaneously bloom... I even saw
>people bathing in a waterfall I had never noticed before...

Ah, but you simply weren't looking close enough.  Y'see, in ARCland, you'll 
find nearly anything you want to see, as long as you look with the right 
attitude.  

>Would anybody be so kind as to tell me what places in ARCland I should be
>sure to see before I travel on?

Why, all of them!  But, especially the chocolate vat (well, that's my personal
favorite, at least...:).  If you start there, you can follow the trails of 
chocolate footprints to wherever else you would like to go.  You see, there are
no maps to ARCland, but you can follow your nose, or your dreams, or your
heart, until you have found what you are looking for.  And don't forget to
stop in at my Strawberry Fields, situated within dipping's distance of the
vat, for convenience's sake.  (See, now I bet no one knew those were there,
either.  Yet there they've been, all along.  Where do you think all the 
strawberries come from? )

>Would anybody be so kind as to tell me who the personages of this land are?

I will leave it to others to introduce themselves, but as for me...

Greetings, kind sir.  I welcome you to ARCland, and humbly present myself to 
you as Sarah, the Official Strawberry of the RFA (more commonly found to be 
Chocolate-covered these days....).  I reside in Los Angeles, CA, although 
my heart belongs in San Francisco (where I live when I'm not stuffing my
brain with knowledge).  *welcomehugs*

>May Fortune smile on you all...

And may you find chocolate always upon your table...(preferably beneath the 
fresh strawberries...) 

>phantasm

-Sarah
Official Strawberry of the RFA
*HUGS*


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From: gemr@netcom.com (Mary Epperson)
Subject: For Rip
Organization: Revenge, Inc.  We do revenge *your* way
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:02:52 GMT

Sorry for the interruption folks, Rip wanted me to post something...

HI RIP!!  *Mary waves to Oregon*

Mary
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Love Making & Sleep
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:42:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.165754.3065@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.214756.20472@mtu.edu> bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan08.145904.3192@mixcom.com> kkwwkk@mixcom.com (TA Shaw) writes:
>>>The article I heard about said maing love helps you fall asleep, 
>>>providing you were relaxed afterwards.  What about the times, when
>>>for whatever reason, you are not relaxed?
>>um...you get out of bed and wander to the kitchen and get something to eat?
>>smoke a cigarette in bed? go watch tv?
>If you are still not relaxed?   Make love again and again
>and again!!   You'll get relaxed eventually.   :-)~~~~

not necessarily...besides, what do you do if YOU'RE not relaxed but your
partner has become TOO relaxed? Thus do I offer alternatives...

I might also suggest a bike ride.

-bacon
officially unofficial
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: kkwwkk@mixcom.com (TA Shaw)
Subject: Love Making & Sleep
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 14:59:04 GMT


Juile writes:
>Actually, you are right.  I have a book that talks about that issue.  Of
[this was part of response to the post about making love makes it
easier to fall asleep]

The article I heard about said maing love helps you fall asleep, 
providing you were relaxed afterwards.  What about the times, when
for whatever reason, you are not relaxed?

Just Thoughts,

BDC
-- 
  May I walk in beauty.  Make my eyes      | TA Shaw          |        oOO 
  ever behold the red and purple sunset.   | shaw@mixcom.com  |  _____ OO 
  Make my hands respect the things you have+------------------| (_/-\_)..
  made, and my ears sharp to your voice - Chief Yellow Lark   | ==(0).
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:54:05 -0500 
From: Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sheep's It or Dung To Meet You

BDC defines:
> virgin wool: n. an ugly sheep

not a *bald* sheep??

RickI, the RoadRunner
checking my feathers
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Future Love
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:58:27 GMT

In article <robg.726811524@citr.uq.oz.au> robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty) writes:
>I remember the forest fires back in 1980 - the sun was orange all day
>with the amount of smoke in the air.  The blue sky turned brown and I'm
>told that some trees got so hot in the fires they exploded...

pine trees are definitely like that, far as I've seen. tamarack too.
great for starting campfires, but not what you'd wanna burn all night.

>If only we could stop the mountain ash forests in Tassie from being cut
>down - the tallest flowering plant in the world is actually in part of
>the Pulp and Paper Mills selection - and they may yet cut it down for
>newsprint :-(  I got within 8km of the tree when I was there, but they
>wouldn't let me in the gates!  Wouldn't you think a 300 foot high
>Mountain Ash would be a tourist attraction?  What's even more sad is
>that way back in 1880 they cut down one that was *400* feet high :-(
>*sigh*

heh. mid-Michigan used to be carpeted with white pine forests. my hometown
(Oscoda) grew up on the timber industry. They turned it all into lumber.
What was left around Oscoda then got caught in a forest fire just after
the turn of the century (which incidentally also flattened Oscoda and
AuSable), started by some careless doof. It's all scrub and jack pine
there now. *sigh*

I think the only stand of native timber left now is the Hartwick Pines,
near Grayling (or is it Gaylord?), which is now a tourist attraction.

They now farm jack pine in the Huron Nat'l Forest.

>No respect for nature :-(

no, respect for money.

-bacon
my ancestors did it, not me
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From: verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey)
Subject: Re: Best Place for a Sunset...
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 00:00:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1993Jan4.040734.9893@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>In article <93Jan04.003339.15830@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan1.222656.21179@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>>In article <93Jan01.205536.16615@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>>>
>>>**bunch deleted**
>>>
>>>>>Tied up in the busy sense, Rip.
>>>>>I don't use ropes!  :-)
>>>>
>>>>Ahhh but I do Ross, nice silken cords ;)
>>>
>>>Wait!  You have *silk* ropes?!  But why do you just use the itchy,
>>>scratchy ones that give me rope burns.... oh, I see....
>>>
>>>*THANK YOU!*
>>
>>You are very welcome my most obediant slave... ;) If you are good
>>I will use them again on you ;)
>
>Promise?  I can hardly wait!  You got the pulley system worked out
>yet?  ;-)

MA nods her head and grins wickedly... All ready for you my most
affectionate slave ;)

>rip(anticipation is half the fun!)

Mary-Ann (rubs her hands together in glee)


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From: panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio)
Subject: Re: Return to the Chocovat...
Summary: Tigger explains his BOUNCE
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 02:32:14 GMT
Expires: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 05:00:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: chocolate
Followup-To: alt.romance.chat

In article <1993Jan8.080211.12255@cheshire.oxy.edu> johnsons@cheshire.oxy.edu (Sarah Curtis Johnson) writes:

>it was instinctive to head for the chocolate.  I was suffering from extreme
>withdrawl.  *whew*  I feel much better, now.
>
>So, tell me, do you bounce, like a proper Tigger?  

*chuckle*

But of course, or my name wouldn't be spelled

T - I - double GUH - errrr!

Hoo hoo hoo hoo!

>(And, I must say, Tigger's are very cute with chocolate dripping off their
>whiskers.  *giggle*)

Hmmmm....do Tiggers like chocolate? Yup...

Do Tiggers like strawberries? Yup...

Do Tiggers like chocolate-covered strawberries?

;^)

*HumongousSillyGoofyPlayfulLaughingTeasingTicklingTiggerHug*

(much affectionate wrestling and tumbling ensues)

BOUNCE!

TiggerVictor 8^)
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Subject: Re: Best Place for a Sunset...
From: Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 1993 04:53:27 -0500 
 <8fFys3e00XsF5EdCBB@andrew.cmu.edu><93Jan06.000339.20768@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>I  writes:
> >verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
> >I sez:
> >> >Mary-Ann, did you use the silken cords around Ross' neck??
> >> Now RickI I want him to be able to breath :)
> >I thought the point of using silken cords is to make him *gasping*.
> >In pleasure, that is....
> 
> Gasp in pleasure yes, not choke on it though :)

Hey, I still think Ross would like to *choke* in ecstasy. Besides, what 
a way to go.....

RickI, the RoadRunner
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From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Re: romance
Keywords: romance
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:24:58 GMT

rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair) writes:
>jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter) writes:
>>I see we need a lockbox on the TV for situations such as this.  And I
>>suppose that you are going to try and convience me that you were just
>>shopping for something for me, right?
>>*Julie looks at the ARCFolks*  Anyone buying this?

>So are you saying you guys get lingerie fashion shows/home shopping
>in the US???
>Hmmm. Might have to invest in one of those large scale satellite
>dishes that let us watch US programs here, semi-legally!  :-)~~

Dunno Ross - Elle McPherson fashion shows are much more fun - or did you
get squished in the rush? :-)

You *don't* want to see some of the stuff that gets onto cable TV in the
States, Ross - trust me.  (Wish I never found out...)

(Yah, I know you were talking satellites...)

>>*pst*  Honey, I don't think its the city.  Romance comes from the heart.
>Yeah - its not the city. I live in a city of 3 milion.
>The only problem with that, is that there a *lot* of people to sift thru to
>to find who, if any, wants to practice it with me....  :-(

Kind of makes it difficult, doesn't it Ross?  Is Melbourne that big?
Didn't realise the population was so close to Sydney in size.

Rob

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robg@durian.citr.oz.au     | The gift of love, the joy of life
CITR                       | And the making of music in all its forms
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From: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
Subject: Re: QUESTION....
Organization: Salter, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:09:45 GMT

ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) shares beautifully: 

>
>	Romance can be sparkling dew on a sunbright dandelion just
>picked for a lover. It can be a thundering rain storm sweeping over a
>forest and lashing the upper branches of trees into a frenzied dance.
>Romance can be a dark cave leading into mysterious places. It can be a
>gorgeous sunrise promising a new day or the multihued colors of a
>sunset painting your partner as the two of you sit quietly together.
>
>	Romance can be a warm hand in yours on a cold day or sparkling
>eyes above a laughing mouth. It can be a dangerous foray into a lush
>jungle where predators may prowl or a voyage over a stormy sea in a
>sailing ship. Romance is very much there in a soft blanket that covers
>two naked people before a roaring fire and it bubbles up
>effervescently in a glass of champagne that two lovers sip together.
>
>	Romance is soft words of poetry dedicated to the one you love
>and it is also tales of courage against adversity. Romance can exist
>in the darkest place on earth as well as the brightest. It exists in
>soft, tender eyes as well as passion fierce ones. Romance can be a
>lonely walk down a beach while listening to the relentless muted crash
>of breakers on the shore. It can also be two people exchanging words
>through two computers while their warm bodies are separated by
>hundreds or thousands of miles.
>
>	Romance can be found anywhere depending upon the individual
>looking for it but it is found most certaintly within each human heart
>and mind.

*sigh*  I appologize for taking bandwidth, but I simply could not delete
all that.  Steven, you have such beauty inside you.  I love you so much....
and this is a part of the reason.

Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 1993 22:39:40 -0500 
From: Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bacon's "Bubbly" Bath
	<1993Jan6.171905.21872@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>

lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) turns da Heat on:
*****something about shower, rebottled champagne deleted**********
> >*POOF!*
> >*a medium-sized brook running over a scenic 10-ft waterfall appears*
> >
> >damn! missed! that ain't a shower!
> >*mental note to check the ECC in the wand next opportunity*
> >but...will this do my dear?
> 
> I love it!!  It's much nicer than a shower any day!  
> The Good Romantic Witch takes off her shoes and dips her
> toes in the water.  "Oooooooo, that's just right."   :-)
> 
> The GRW steps behind a big tree and begins slipping her gown
> and lingerie off....the waterfall is so beautiful, she is
> very anxious to feel the water running down her soft warm body.

All *I* could say is *hubba hubba* *MAJOR DROOL ALERT*

RickI, the RoadRunner
Still wondering why my feathers are wet.
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From: phantasm@iastate.edu ()
Subject: I think I may stay for a time...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:51:08 GMT

Greetings all...

In wandering the net.world, it is possible to find many things... So many, in
fact, that it is often difficult to locate what you are looking for...

However, this land of ARC is very enticing and tempts me to somewhat restrict
my wandering to here, and to those lands nearby...

In the extremely short time I have looked around, I have noticed that the
geography is somewhat chaotic... I find chocolate footprints everywhere I go...
Mountains suddenly appear and flowers spontaneously bloom... I even saw
people bathing in a waterfall I had never noticed before...

Would anybody be so kind as to tell me what places in ARCland I should be
sure to see before I travel on?

Also, I have encountered Lis, the Good Romantic Witch... (Indeed, the afterglow
from that encounter will likely not fade for some time...) and the
Lexicographical Fiend...  I have spoken with rip, Richard, and others... I have
noticed Knights and Mages, a Harper and even some of my kin... (And of course
the GRW...)

Would anybody be so kind as to tell me who the personages of this land are?

May Fortune smile on you all...

phantasm
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Subject: Re: Equality between men and women; is there such a thing?
From: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:14:03 GMT
Reply-To: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

In article <93002.201921ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET>, <ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>definately the term "equal" needs defining......let's look at it from a
>military point of view.....yes, a woman can fly a jet as good as a man....
>yes a woman can sail a ship as good as a man....but NO a woman could
>participate in the jungles of some south eastern country.  Maybe as a
>nurse or medic, but not in the jungle working in teams....especially
>the work I did in Viet Nam......a womans survival rate would probably
>be about 2 or 3 seconds.

Sez who?  Seems to me, the only thing that would prevent men and women
working in teams in the jungle is the mind set of the individual members,
men as well as women.

-Sandy
NCOIC of Traffic Management
 
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:02:17 -0500 
From: "Paul S. Hrynko" <ph2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Love and/or sex

First of all, I'd like to wish all AR's who were home for the holidays a
happy return.  School is hard!!!!!!

Over the holidays, I had the opportunity to see my S.O. for a total of a
week, for she was away for the rest of the MONTH!!!!  But being in a
LDR, we really value the time that we spend together.  Before we were
involved in a LDR, we had lots of fun, both sexually and otherwise.  Let
me elaborate....we were seriously active!  When I see her now, sexual
activity is still lots of fun.  But something even more powerful were
huge, warm hugs and hot, passionate kisses. Sex isn't everything, but it
IS fun!!!!!  Just a thought for the day.



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