HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: john@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Mackin)
Subject: Re: Can someone point me to an x-based mail program?
Summary: try xmailtool
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:58:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.154000.2767@uts.cc.wayne.edu>,
	tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson) writes:

> Are these [xmh and xmail] the only two P.D. X-based mail programs available?

No.  There's also xmailtool (not intended to be a port of, or in any
way compatible with, Sun's mailtool, and therefore, IMHO, very poorly named).

Some of the users here wanted an X-based mail handler.  I originally
tried giving them xmail, not wanting something as huge as xmh, but there
are a number of problems with that program, and given the way it's coded
(gigantic functions) it isn't easy to fix them.

[Aside: Does anyone know if xmail is being actively maintained by
anyone at this time?  Does anyone know whether Version 1.4 of xmail
is the latest version?  As far as I know, no one is maintaining
xmail.]

Anyway, it dies if you don't fill in the To: address when sending, and
it also dies on destination addresses that start with a slash
character.  Worse, it sometimes puts up garbage at the beginning of
the Subject: header body when replying -- but only sometimes.

So, I found, and tried, xmailtool.  Not only is it actively under
development at the moment, but it actually seems to be reasonably
bug-free.  It has a similar style of interface to xmail.  Another
advantage it has over xmail is that you can use either a built-in
(Athena Text widget based) editor for composing messages, or an
external editor (e.g. vi).  The internal editor is good for users
that are not comfortable with vi.

Disadvantages compared with xmail:

1) You need to read the manual entry, since the help system is not
nearly as good.  xmail's "control-Button2 gives help on anything"
scheme is _excellent_; since it allows detailed help to be given on
anything you can see, the program really is self-documenting, and
unless you want to set up resources (which most naive users don't),
you really can use xmail very effectively without reading the manual.
xmailtool has an "autohelp" feature, but it only gives a one-line
help message about what you are pointing at, which necessarily isn't
comprehensive.  I'd like to see xmailtool have an option for xmail
style help.

2) The icon display for new mail is not nearly as distinct as it
should be.  The icon is very `busy' anyway, with lots of detail,
and so the _small_ flag that says you have new mail doesn't stand
out hardly at all.

Of course, neither of these is nearly serious enough to make me give
my users xmail, since it's (a) badly busted, (b) hard to fix, and
(c) not being looked after by anyone as far as I can determine.

Where to get xmailtool?  Check archie, or just go straight to
the nearest mirror of export.lcs.mit.edu.  contrib/xmailtool.tar.Z.

-- 
John Mackin <john@civil.su.oz.au>
A research student should not be hampered by the lack of a magtape. -Skea
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: canuck@masc.rice.edu (Mike Pearlman)
Subject: Re: problem with xset +fp on NCD X terminal
Organization: Dept. of Math. Science, Rice University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:22:58 GMT

The NCD accesses files either via tftp or NFS. If it is via tftp then on
most machines you must place the file in the directory where tftp
is allowed access and where the NCD knows to look. On our
Suns, tftp files must live in /tftpboot. So for tftp in our evironment
you font directory would have to be in /tftpboot. For NFS access, the NCD
configutation file specifies the NFS mount points made by the terminal.
Your font directory must be fall under one of these mount points to be
accessed.


michael pearlman <canuck@rice.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: ljg@space.physics.uiowa.edu (Larry Granroth)
Subject: xpr and HP PaintJet XL300
Summary: want xpr switches
Keywords: xpr
Organization: The University of Iowa, Department of Physics and Astronomy
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:30:01 GMT

What are the recommended settings for xpr -gamma and -render to give
the highest quality color plots?  (Contrary to the xpr man page, the
printer docs don't appear to have the answer.)

Thanks.

larry-granroth@uiowa.edu



Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: shirleyk@qualix.com (Shirley Kumamoto)
Subject: Re: X-GUI Builder Evaluations *********
Summary: GUI builders
Keywords: motif OpenLook GUI
Reply-To: info@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:39:46 GMT

In article 10473@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov, parlier@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Randy Parlier) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 	We are planning an evaluation on several GUI-Builders (XFacemaker,
> 	UIM/X, BuilderXcessory, etc.) and would like to hear from anyone
> 	out there that has recently done the same.  What products you
> 	evaluated, what was your criteria, which "Builder" did you decide to
> 	go with, and why, etc.
> 
> 	We would appreciate hearing from you.
> 
> 	Randy Parlier
> 	parlier@puente.jpl.nasa.gov
> 
> 	Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA. 91109
> 	(818) 354-1454
> 

If you are interested in an object-oriented (C++) GUI builder,
there is a product called OI/UIB.  It is both a drag-and drop
GUI builder and a C++ class library for designing and implementing
Motif and OPENLOOK GUIs.  UIB generates all coding templates
and Makefiles, has a resource editor, user definable palettes, and
other features.  If you would like more information, contact:

Qualix Group
info@qualix.com
1-800-245-8649
From: hsg@lem.duke.cs.duke.edu (Henry Greenside)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Composing Postscript image out of subimages
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:23:27 GMT
Distribution: comp.windows.x.apps
Organization: /home/lear2/hsg/.organization


Is there a X window utility (public-domain preferred)
that allows one to import .ps or .eps files and make a
one-page figure out of the resulting images? For
example, I would like to set up a 2x2 matrix of
Postscript images repesenting x-y plots and label them,
saving the final figure in Postscript form for
printing.

idraw evidently won't import .ps or .eps files.

	Thanks,

	Henry
From: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: "Base frame not passed parent window in environment"
Date: 12 Oct 92 05:27:35 GMT
Reply-To: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au

In <Bvq7yv.p3@sti.com> westes@sti.com (Will Estes) writes:

>I was trying to find the source of bad network performance today and
>invoked a program that promised to give some information named
>"traffic".  I invoked it and got the subject error message:
>	Base frame not passed parent window in environment

>Does anyone know what this one means and how to get around it?

Sounds like "traffic" is a SunView application, not an X applicaiton.

>-- 
>Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com

Murray

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  University of Queensland                 How many lightbulb jokes does it
  Brisbane, Australia                      take to change the subject?
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: fridman@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Robert Fridman)
Subject: using sigwinch with curses
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:49:25 GMT

> I am attempting to write a small program which uses curses to prevent
> a variety of  information on the screen, and it works fine, but I
> can't find a way to change curses idea of how big the screen is after
> a sigwinch. I have a signal handler written, but it doesn't work. 
> 
> (I even tried doing an endwin(); initscr() but it still used the old
> size).
> 
> Do I need to create a new window, copy
> the data across and then delete the old one?? (even then the LINES
> and COLS variables are still not updated.)
> 
> What is the most reliable way to find out how big the window is after
> a SIGWINCH?? 

Curses does not handle window resizing.  Here is one way to fudge it:

	- set up a long jump to begining.
	- trap SIGWINCH and start up curses
	- if you get a SIGWINCH, here is how to get the new size of the screen:

		/* function get_screen_size sets the global LINES/COLS variable */
		/* in curses to the current tty screen size. Call it after 	*/
		/* a SIGWINCH.							*/
		get_screen_size()
		{
		struct winsize ws;

		        ioctl(0, TIOCGWINSZ, &ws);
		        LINES = ws.ws_row;
		        COLS = ws.ws_col;
		}
		- now you can endwin() and do a longjump back to the begining
		  so you can start up curses again.

		- redraw the screen.

This is very kludgy, but I don't think curses was ever designed with resizable
windows in mind.

	RF.
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17584 comp.windows.x.motif:6678
From: iwona@Software.Mitel.COM (Iwona Hawrylak)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Hourglass Pointer for multiple windows application.
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:35:43 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

While the application is performing a lengthy operation I would
like to display an hourglass cursor in the main window and all of
other secondary windows of the application. Is there any simple
way of setting the hourglass cursor for all of the windows at the
same time instead of having to call XDefineCursor() for every window
in the application (the number of the subwindows can be quite large)?  

1. If I call XUndefineCursor() for every window then this window
   inherits its parent window's cursor but only at the creation time.
   Is there any way for it to work dynamically as well?

2. If there is no other way but to call XDefineCursor() for every
   window what is the easiest way to retrieve the list of application's
   windows - XQueryTree() gives a list of all the windows including
   the windows that are associated with every widget of the interface

3. This question has been answered in Frequently Asked Questions of
   comp.windows.x (Subject 126). I've followed the instructions exactly
   but the cursor was set only for the main application window and not
   for any of the secondary windows.

I would appreciate your help.

/Iwona

P.S. We use UIM/X User Inteface Management System (Graphical UI Builder).
     I was wondering how many of you are using it as well. If there
     are many of us then maybe it would be worth to start a newsgroup
     to exchange the information and share the problems.


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jgraham@crc.sofkin.ca (Jay Graham)
Subject: XLoad/UnloadFont problems
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:53:34 GMT



I have an application that opens a display on remote host
and then creates a window and a GC on the remote display.  I
also load a font on the remote to use for drawing text. When
I am finished with the remote display for a while, I free the
GC, unload the font, destroy the window and then close the
remote display.  

I have discovered  that if I do the above more than once, the 
X server on the remote grows by 2 UNIX pages (8k) each time,
specifically after loading the font on the remote (determined by
using "ps" and a source debugger).  I therefore assume that I am
unloading(freeing?) the font incorrectly or there is a problem
with XUnloadFont.  I don't think that I should have to use
XQueryLoadFont and XFreeFont.

Can anyone tell me if I am doing something wrong or if there is
a bug with XUnloadFont for remote displays?


Here is a more detailed outline (not the actual code) of what I
have done:

    Remote = XOpenDisplay("remote:0");
    Win = XCreateWindow(Remote, ...);
    Font_Id = XLoadFont(Remote, "9x15");
/* X server on remote has just grown by 8k */
    Gc = XCreateGC(Remote, ..... with font field set to Font_Id);
    .
    .
    use display
    .
    .
    XFreeGC(Remote,Gc);
    XUnloadFont(Remote, Font_Id);
    XDestroyWindow(Remote, Win);
    XCloseDisplay(Remote);
    .
    .
    some time later, do the above again.



Thanks for any help.

Configuration:
               Motif 1.0
               X11R3
               ISC 386/ix
               AT&T 6386/25

(And no, we can't go to X11R4 and Motif 1.1. or X11R5 and Motif 1.2)

| Jay Graham                          Internet: jgraham@crc.sofkin.ca
| Software Kinetics Ltd.              Phone   : (613) 831-0888
| 65 Iber Road                        Fax     : (613) 831-1836
| Stittsville (Ottawa), Ontario
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mdb@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Brady)
Subject:  my x11r5 sun 4.1.2 problem
Reply-To: mdb@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Brady)
Organization: Dept of Comp Sci, Royal Holloway & Bedford New College Uni London
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:47:33 GMT

Can anyone help with x11r5 sunos 4.1.2
I have pulled x11r5 across on to a system that has
never had mit x before, and am having many problems
such as those shown below. I have put on 17 fixes
and the sunGX fix, I can see what to correct in individual
makefiles most of the time, but I think this should not
happen. Can anyone fix this .. or at least put me right.
	Thanks,
	Mark Brady
	mdb@uk.ac.rhbnc.cs



cc -o xauth xauth.o gethost.o process.o parsedpy.o -O -pipe  
../.././lib/Xau/libXau.a -L../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu -L../.././lib/Xt 
-L../.././extensions/lib -L../.././lib/X   
ld: Undefined symbol
   _XGetVisualInfo
   _XFree
   _XInternAtom
   _XtMalloc
   _XGetAtomName
   _XQueryTree
   _XGetWindowProperty
   _XAddExtension
   _XESetCloseDisplay
   _XAllocColor

cc -o xlsclients xlsclients.o -O -pipe  -L../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu 
-L../.././lib/Xt -L../.././extensions/lib -L../.././lib/X 
-L../.././extensions/lib -lXext -L../.././lib/X -lX11   
ld: Undefined symbol
   _XtMalloc
   _XtGetConstraintResourceList
   _XtRealloc
   _XtVaSetValues
   _XtName
   _XtFree
   _XtTranslateCoords
   _XtGetResourceList
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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: adding font path on a X terminal
Date: 7 Oct 1992 19:49:27 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <Bvq96s.JtM@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> eddie@laslett.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Xintian Eddie Lin) writes:
>	I am running x server on a NCD x terminal, the trouble I have is
>xset +fp /u/ap/eddie/myfontsdir giving error message as following:
>X error of faileed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
>  Major opcode of failed request:  51(X_SetFontPath)

If you're using NFS to access remote files, you need to make sure that
there's an appropriate entry for /u/ap in the "NFS Mount Table"
configuration.

While we're on the subject, could someone explain why this extremely common
error results in an "integer parameter out of range for operation" error?
Doesn't X have an error code that conveys the message "file not found"?
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17655 comp.sys.sun.admin:7065 comp.unix.questions:11916
From: stssram@st.unocal.COM (Bob Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: MIT X11R5 problem with SUID & SGID
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:37:46 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Myers@st.unocal.com
Organization: Unocal Science and Technology Division

In article <1992Oct6.200839.19337@nmt.edu> kelly@nmt.edu (kelly) writes:

kelly> My next beef has to do with the `install' target and SUN-DES-1
kelly> authorization.  The mit `install' target installs xterm as set-uid
kelly> root, so it can update the /etc/utmp file.

kelly> However, a program that runs set-uid root uses root's key on the local
kelly> machine rather your key, rendering SUN-DES-1 authorization only useful
kelly> for useless clients like xclock, xman, ... .  You can't run xterms.

kelly> The fix: install xterm as set-gid tty, not set-uid root, and make sure
kelly> /etc/utmp is group-writable by group tty.  Then, an xterm runs with
kelly> your user ID, so it uses your key for SUN-DES-1, and you've got the
kelly> protection you were after.

Hmmm.  This doesn't do everything the suid bit did, though.  A suid root
xterm will change the ownership of the tty to the appropriate user, preventing
other users from reading/writing there, etc.  Your "fix" won't be able to do
this.

Maybe the way this should work is to use the SUN-DES-1 key for the real
uid, not the key for the effective uid.  This is really a SUN-DES-1/suid
problem, not an install problem.

--
Bob Myers                              Unocal Science & Technology Division
Internet: Bob.Myers@st.unocal.com      Seismic Research and Applications
Phone: [714] 693-6951                  P. O. Box 68076
                                       Anaheim, California 92817-8076
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: rthau@qualix.com (Rick Thau)
Subject: Re: Print Postscript-File with Laserprinter
Reply-To: rthau@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:36:58 GMT

Please try Adobe's transcript software, now at version 4.0.

This is available through Qualix Group at info@qualix.com or 800-245-UNIX

rt
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In article 719142739@unidui, hz231gr@unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Paul-Gerhard Gressel) writes:
>Hallo,
>
>we are searching a UNIX-(X)-Programm that can print Postscript-Files
>on Laserprinter.
>
>Thanks
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Paul-Gerhard Gressel
>Hochschulrechenzentrum
>Univeritaet Duisburg
>
>




Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: different defaults for monochrome and color screen?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:08:29 GMT

generous@sti.nasa.gov (Curtis Generous) writes:
|> Is it possible to get [#ifdef] functionality from the app-defaults file rather
|> than in the ~/.Xdefaults file?

In X11R5, yes, if a little indirectly.  See my previous post; in summary,
put this in your .Xdefaults

	#ifdef COLOR
	*Customization: -color
	#else
	*Customization:	-mono
	#endif

Now (referring to your example) put your monochrome resources in
$XAPPLRESDIR/AppClass, and put this in $XAPPLRESDIR/AppClass-color:

	#include "AppClass"
	AppClass*background:                          lightgray
	AppClass*highlightColor:                      tan
	AppClass*logo*Background:                     CadetBlue

There's no need for an actual "-mono" suffix; the default is no suffix.

This only helps with a single attribute, unless you get more intricate with
the value of Customization.  You could, for example, use -color-hirez, but
your subfiles would multiply like rabbits.

Another approach is to start the client with a shell script that clips
lines out of xdpyinfo and runs cpp (or your favorite macro language) to
produce the defaults file on the fly.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
105 more days of Bush Presidency!
From: pd@x.co.uk (Paul Davey)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: xterm class resource file
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:10:24 GMT
Organization: IXI Ltd.
X-Disclaimer: This is not the view of IXI Ltd unless explicitly stated.
X-Copyright: The author asserts the right of paternity in this message.

>>>>> On 12 Oct 92 17:57:23 GMT, slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662) said:

Steve> Is there a way to change it's class name? [other than ``XTerm'']

1) Change the source and recompile.

2) Edit the binary (maybe).

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From: pfeiffer@cict.fr (Daniel Pfeiffer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5,comp.windows.x
Subject: rlogin & Xlogin
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:27:40 GMT
Organization: Instituto de Reser^cado pri Informadiko de Tuluzo (IRIT)
	      Universitato Paul Sabatier
X-Accent-Convention: ^c ^u
Reply-Languages: Esperanto, Deutsch, Francais, English

It would be neat if you could say

login: me@machine.somewhere

where getty would exec rlogin.  It would be neater yet if rlogin
could set variables the same way as on login, explicitly or
implicitly as $L0, $L1 ...  Then we could even say

login: me@machine.somewhere value0 value1 VAR=value

I miss the same possibility for xdm where I would extremely
welcome it.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec
From: todd@fred.dfrf.nasa.gov (Todd Vernon)
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Reply-To: todd@fred.dfrf.nasa.gov (Todd Vernon)
Organization: NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards CA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:07:44 GMT


>	Is this a bug or a feature?
>
>	No, seriously - If you consider that X windows' installed
> base is a drop in the bucket compared to ms-windows', Microsoft
> would be crazy to put engineering effort into making X a priority.

>> For a group like ours, which is actually looking favorably at WNT,
>> these details are very disappointing. It appears that the X community
>> will be ignored when Windows NT for Alpha comes out

>	I think that a lot of the NT fans and potential NT fans out
> there are expecting that the X community is going to dry up and blow
> away. They may be right. Microsoft *did* sell a million copies of
> windows last month, after all. X? (actually, in terms of installed
> base, the X community dried up and blew away years ago)

>	I don't know why you specify "Windows NT for Alpha", by the
> way. NT is NT. The architecture it's running on will make some
> difference, but presumably it'll behave the same and have the same
> API across hardware. So if one NT has short-shrifted X, then they all
> do.

	

No, seriously if you consider the things NT won't do the original writer
is correct.  If NT isn't doing windowing with respect to a network model,
(client/server) it really would not stand much a chance in the scientific
community.  We have large amounts of raw data that we plot, do analysis on, 
etc.. and if we had to actually move all that data around to differnent
computers to do graphic manipulations it would be to say the least
impractical.

You aren't another NT'r trying to save the world with vapor ware are you ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 21:59:55 CDT
From: <U30776@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X3270 - Where from?

X3270 was written by Robert Viduya of Georgia Tech. Research Corporation.
You can get it from export.lcs.mit.edu in the directory /contrib.


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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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   All by myself
   To seek nothing
   That was on my mind." -- Goethe
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From: roderick@chester.ksu.ksu.edu (Mike Roderick)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: /dev/audioctl
Date: 14 Oct 1992 13:51:06 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: chester.ksu.ksu.edu



Does any one have a utility that allows a number to be piped to the /dev/audioctl
so that it is changed so that the number is the new volume.  If so please E-mail
me a copy of where to get it!
 
Thanks in advance
Michael Roderick
roderick@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: audioctl 

-- 
                                                   Sincerely,
                                                   Mike Roderick
                                                   roderick@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x