From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: [SOC] PETITION FOR LUYEN NGUYEN
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:24:52 GMT

In article <92Sep14.050344.16854@acs.ucalgary.ca> bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.160439.9763@jho.com> john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
>>godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>>
>>	Unfortunately the Asian Americans has been treated unfairly 
>>by the US legal system.  As sad as I have to say, discrimination
>>and prejudice do and wildly exist and exhibit.  Racial discrimination
>>is not only between black and white; but it is between people of 
>>different colors.  Asian Americans needs to fight for what is taken 
>>for granted by most Americans - a fair legal system.  It was only ten years 
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	** The greatest thing under the sun which however does not exist 
	   at all - nor will it ever.  

>>ago that a Chinese American Vincent Chan was killed in Detroit 
>>after mistaken as a Japanese by two unemployed auto workers, a father
>>and his step-son, and the criminals were able to walk out the court room 
>>with a four-years probation and $3000 fine each; only public outcry has 
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>>forced federal action against the father and son later.  
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	** Not the truth I hope. 
>
>That carefully crafted myth once again?  Why should the killers have
>been condemned to a longer sentence because the victim happened to
>be Asian?  (I doubt that your view of what the justice system is all
>about has much relationship with what it really is supposed to be. In
>particular, it's *not* about revenge...)

	** Should your life have been worth as much as *4 years of
	   probation* and $3000(although might sound a lot to you!) if
	   you'd happened to be the victim? Yes? Well, and you've made it
	   clear...  How long the probation(not jail, pay some heed here,
	   guys) sentense should be, I'm saying, should(if not must) depend
  	   on what the intention to kill apparently is, not what nationality
	   the victim is of. Try to apply this to the case of Vincent Chan 
	   which you might probably learn something out of.

	   IMHO, my consideration of justice *does* relate to the idea
	   of justice as retribution(in the legal system context). This
	   overlaps with the formal administration of justice in the legal
	   system, but the two aren't necessarily the same. You have to 
	   always consider the distinition between the two when forming
	   values about approriate responses to the denial of justice. 

	   I personally offer a pessimistic view of the possibility of
	   justice being doing in America - if this guy is saying truly what 
	   most Americans are thinking. Coz there seems to be NO means to
	   answer the injustice!!(And racial discrimination, of course)
	   And I should hereupon start to take pity on the Japanese living in
	   America. Take care.  
	    	 
>	  
>If you keep crying wolf each time it serves your interest, your
>credibility will have been destroyed the day the wolf comes.

	** Huh! Hang on! Who the hell is the wolf???????????

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