Newsgroups: alt.child-support,soc.men,soc.women,misc.kids,alt.dads-rights
Subject: Re: Remote (Taxpayer) Wallets
From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:16:20 EST
 <1992Sep9.063605.3983@desire.wright.edu> <1992Sep10.191026.29144@gdr.bath.ac.uk>
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Sep10.191026.29144@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, chpetk@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Toby Kelsey) writes:
>>> In article <1992Sep2.224655.16781@u.washington.edu>, hamton@byron.u.washington.edu (MrEuStress) writes:
>>>> I wrote:
> 
>>>>    It's my choice and I'll thank you and
>>>>    your government to not financially rape me.
> 
>>In article <123@allspts.ALLSPTS.COM>, jeffh@allspts.ALLSPTS.COM (Jeff Holloway) writes:
>>> 
>>> The financial rape occurs as a result of a large number of scumbags who
>>> couldn't refrain from spreading their seed but refuse to take financial
>>> responsibility for their actions.
> 
> In article <1992Sep9.063605.3983@desire.wright.edu> sbishop@desire.wright.edu writes:
>>My sentiments exactly!  I know lots of men who have been good fathers, 
>>paid their support payments and then some, had shared or even full custody.
>>I also know more than a few who refuse to pay any support at all.  One woman
>>I work with has two adopted children, her ex-husband (who left her for another
>>woman) makes very good money, more than she does, has the children every 
>>weekend and as often as possible during the summer.  He also refuses to
>>pay her ANY child support and changes jobs every time she is able to attach
>>his wages.  (He's a nurse and this is easy for him to do.)  It's men like
>>that who give the rest of the fathers a bad name in court.  
> 
> Tell me Sue, how much child support does she pay him?
> If she pays none, does that make her a 'scumbag' as well?
>   ...somehow I won't be suprised when you say 'No'.
> 

Considering that she has the most of the financial burden, buys most of their
food, all their clothes, transports them to activities, makes the kids
available for the visitation (very liberal but often he cancels without
letting the kids know, leaving the kids crying, and her trying to console
them....), provides the house that they live in 80% of the time, and also
pays for the special schooling that the one child needs, I don't really see
where you are coming from.  All the adoptive father is out, is some food
on weekends and what ever entertainment and transportation he is out for
the times they visit.  Also considering his income is MUCH higher than hers,
she's the one who is out the most expense.

> Isn't it strange that fewer mothers pay child support to the father
> than vice versa, yet it isn't the women who get the 'bad name'.
> 

Well, if he had primary custody, then it would be needed for her to pay
child support.  This is not total shared (50/50).  He has access to the
kids as often as he wishes.  Unfortunately for the kids, he doesn't take
advantage of it very often and refuses to contribute anything at all to the
very necesssary expenses of raising, housing and educating them.

> I hope one day people will learn to hate sexist attitudes
> such as yours.

Exactly where do you see 'sexist'?  She offered him joint custody.  He didn't
want it.  He also doesn't want to pay ANYTHING, not even the court ordered
child support.  

Sheesh!  Ask more questions, if I don't make myself clear.  Don't just jump
to conclusions!  

Sue

> 
>>Sue
> 
> Toby
> -- 
> Toby Kelsey
> School of Chemistry,  # JANET: chpetk@uk.ac.bath.gdr, otherwise
> University of Bath.   # chpetk%gdr.bath.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk