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From: hutchinson@watson.bms.com (ROBERT HUTCHINSON)
Subject: STTNG Phasers and Communicators now numbered!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:33:00 GMT

    I picked up the Enterprise toy from Playmates the other day and noticed a
new shipment of Phasers and Communicators had arrived .  The odd thing was that
all of the Phasers and Communicators had a number sticker on the box.  I knew
that the ones I had bought were not numbered (unless they are number inside?).
No big deal I thought since should the unnumbered ones become valuable, all
anyone would need to do was peal off the serial number sticker.  Well, I
bought a communicator for a friend and compared it with mine when I got home.
Guess what, they are different.  It's a small difference, but can not be
pealed off or faked.  The difference is on the back of the box in the bottom
right hand corner.  The first issue unnumbered ones read:

                        Requires two A76
                        "Watch" Batteries

                        Ages 4 and up.
                        Stock No. 6152
                        (PLAYMATES LOGO)


On the newer numbered one it reads:

                        Requires two A76
                        "Watch" Batteries.
                        WARNING: Keep batteries
                        away from small children.

                        Ages 4 and up.
                        Stock No. 6152
                        (PLAYMATES LOGO)


Again, not much of a difference, but enough.  As far the phasers go I don't
know since I only have the unnumbered version.  Does anyone else know?

Bob Hutchinson
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 93 13:36:23 CST
From:         Brad <C31002RY@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      enterprise B
Newsgroups:   rec.arts.startrek.misc,

I was just scanning a few entries on this net and came across a question
about the history of Enterprise B.  No one seems to know any history about
it.  The STNG Tech Manual shows it to be an Excelsior class ship but gives
few other details.  However, I remember reading in an earlier STNG Info
Book (if only I could remember the title) that Enterprise B had a long and
successful career with the fewest casualties ever reported for a starship
(an obvious dig at how many red-shirts kept getting killed on Kirk's ship).
Does anybody else have this book or remember reading this?  I don't think
I'm hallucinating.
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From: timk@world.std.com (Tim King)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG - Plot flaw or am I missing something?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:06:42 GMT

>In <dlileiki.16.726776992@AFIT.AF.MIL> dlileiki@AFIT.AF.MIL writes:

>>The storyline 
>>implies that these creatures found the Enterprise because of Jordie's sensor 
>>adjustments.  However, the show opens with Ricker having trouble sleeping 
>>nights and ferarful of Doctor Crusher's instrument BEFORE the sensor 
>>changes are made.


abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:

>...as I recall LaForge
>tells Riker that he has already done the "warp power transfer" so the
>damage was done before hand (ie As Riker was having his sleeping problems)
>so there wasn't a flaw.


I had thought about this before and checked it out on the video tape.
The language Geordi uses is vague but implies that he had been working
on his project for some time.  However, the conclusion they come to,
that the beings from the tertiary subspace domain detected the LaForge
Sensor Array, was only a speculation without any evidence.  So, in a
pinch, they could be discovered to have been wrong.  The two events could
have been coincidental.

-TimK
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Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Star Trek Enterprise "Star Globe" $300.
From: khill@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:36:35 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
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In article <1992Dec28.194627.6918@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, eroth@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (elizabeth.s.roth) writes:
> In article <1hfr8qINNbj0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bn202@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregg E. Woodcock) writes:
>>
>>I have spent the last several weeks tracking down these things
>>and they are *IMPOSSIBLE* to find!  
> 
> I just saw lots of them at the local Penney's store.

	I just bought mine at JC Penney's at Oak Park Mall in Overland
Park, KS (just outside of Kansas City).  The price -- $30!!  They had
about 150 of the things!!  
	If somebody wants to buy mine for $300 they can have it, and I'll
go buy another one (BTW, I'll pocket the $270 profit and take my wife
out to dinner!)

> (description deleted)
> 
> I thought the Enterprise model inside the globe was VERY cheap
> looking.  

	I must agree, though it is REALLY COOL with the lights turned on,
it is kind of a CHEAP PLASTIC MODEL!  (Rawcliffe sells an entire line of
pewter ST:TOS and ST:TNG  models that look quite PRIMO!! -- I have the
entire collection!!)
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From: zardoz@sycom.mi.org (David Lillard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Comics 4 Sale
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.975
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:46:29 EST
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

 
I have the following comics for sale.  All are in NM/M condition, as most have
never been read.  I have more than one copy on some issues. Please make 
offers 
that aren't *too* low (IMHO, none of the guides are right).Buyer pays 
shipping.  
 
STAR TREK comics
 
    Marvel #1,3,11
    DC Movie Special #2 (ST4)
    DC 1st Series #1,4,8,12,15,17,22,23,27,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,40,
                   41,43,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,56,A-3
    DC 2nd Series #3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,23,29,A-1
       TNG(mini) #5
       TNG(regular) #5,6,7,8,9,10,11,23,24,25
       TNG Mod. #1,3
 
STAR WARS comics
 
    Marvel #24,25,31,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78
 
Please email me at  Zardoz@sycom.MI.ORG  if interested.  Thanx.
 
Happy New Year, Dave.
From: 00acearl@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: re: ST:DS9 music
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:33:35 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article X-NEWS: bsu-ucs rec.arts.startrek.misc: 8450, Casey Barton remarks:


|--    I was completely nonplussed by the music in the show so far. The intro
|--was extremely disappointing. The first notes, the straining violins, kept the
|--same feel as that of both TNG and TOS. What I was expecting, I guess, was for
|--the music to drop down after a little bit into some rackish electric guitar
|--and heavy percussion, in line with the "crueler, gritter Trek" idea. At the
|--least, to move into a powerful orchestrated score, as TNG does. 

|--    But *nothing* happened. The violins and trumpets kept right on straining,
|--until fade-to-black. This does little to reinforce the "rough-edged" station
|--theme that has been built up. They might have been doing camera fly-by's of
|--the Cistine Chapel. 


That's interesting.  I did not know that DS9 was supposed to be "crueler and
grittier."

I liked the music and the introduction.  It inspired the same awe for the
cosmos as the intro's for shows like "Nova" and "The Mechanical Universe."  I
am also thankful that they did not open with that stupid, "Beyond the infinite
dimensions . . . " paragraph which was heard in the commercials.  Talk about
dorky!  


Aaron Christopher  
B. S. U.
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Subject: Re: Space Rangers <SPOILERS>
From: <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 10 Jan 1993 22:46:59 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

>
>
>I must agree.  I thought that with the talk of this series being
>strong competition for TNG and DS9 it would at least be worth a look.
>I though it was very possibly the worst science-fiction series I have
>ever seen!  It ranked right up there with Buck Rogers and the like.
>
>        If this is supposed to be competition for anything, they
>should at least pit it against an equally pathetic show...I mean just
>because they hide behind lots of techno-speak doesn't make it a good
>universe...
>
>Regards,
>
>J.Marc Chabot

I turned to another channel after ten minutes of watching that space garbage
went by... but seriously this show is no where near the budget that DSN and TNG
 put together and the SFX is cheesy that I have expected it to melt.  Can't say
the same about Time Trax and Babylon 5 (coming to Ch.9 this Feb.) till I see
them both.  I heard that B5 uses computer graphics instead of models.
From: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Space Rangers [no] <SPOILERS>
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:52:14 GMT
Reply-To: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com
Organization: G.M. Research Laboratories

In article 8159@newssun.med.miami.edu, dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown) writes:
|>
|>I thought that show was abolutely horrible. 
.....
|>  Gag!  Anyways,
|>the plot was terrible, the special effects were weak at best, and their
|>version of Data was a bit of a cliche.  All in all I'd give it a D-.

You are being generous at that.

To me, it looked like a Saturday morning cartoon with humans [?? (:-) ]
doing a poor job of imitating the animated characters. I get the
impression they are trying to appeal to pre-teens who would
be the marketing target for Space Ranger action figures.


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From: noel@umbc2.umbc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Deep Space Nine Hell Cast
Date: 7 JAN 93 09:15:49 EST
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc2.umbc.edu

	I posted my "Next Generation Hell Cast" last year and people really had 
fun with it.  So this time lets send the casting department to lunch and
bring out:

The Deep Space Nice Hell Cast

Benjamin Sisko:  Jimmy "JJ" Walker
Jake Sisko:      Gary Coleman
Kira Nerys:      Judy Tenuta (also my choice for Troi in the TNG Hell Cast)
Quark:           H. Ross Perot
Quark's nephew:  Mulcahey Caulkin
Julian Bashier:  Adrian Edmonson
Jadzia Dax:      Katy Segall
Odo:             Steven Furst

Jennifer:  Kim Waywans
Kai Opaka:  Rosanne Barr or the short lady from "Poltergeist"
Cardassians:  DOn Knotts, Howard Stern                 
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From: "paul manson" <paul.manson@canrem.com>
Subject: should i bother?
Reply-To: "paul manson" <paul.manson@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:24:03 EST

CK-> Subject: Should I bother?

CK->Do people (esp. collectors like Vidiot, e.g.) really need a
  ->synopsis of DSN episodes?

Most certainly continue.

They are read and digested with vim & vigour.

They usually point out parts missed to be looked for in reruns
or tape replays.

LL&P  P&LL

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From: lidz@quads.uchicago.edu (adam lidz)
Subject: Wanted:  Borg Ship (Gif)
Reply-To: lidz@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:29:15 GMT

Can anyone tell me where to get/e-mail me a high resolution Borg gif?
(At least 640x480, but no higher than 800x600, as many colors as possible)
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: bad joke
Keywords: Trill
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:26:46 GMT

Warning: this is a terrible joke!  One non-Star Trek person laughed,
two Trekists groaned.

What did the one Trill say to the other?

I've just washed my host body, and I can't do a thing with it!


Sheesh, I think it's time for lunch...

--->Margaret
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From: 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Colm Meany Sightings
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:54:14 GMT
Organization: Ball State University

In article <1993Jan11.154259.24142@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:
> 
> Funny how Colm Meany keeps showing up in command situations in
> whatever movies he appears in.  In DIE HARD II, he was the captain
> of the airliner that the bad guys caused to crash on the runway;
> in UNDER SIEGE (one heluva movie, by the way) he was the terrorists'
> second-in-command (and showed up more often than in the average 
> Star Trek TNG episode).  I kinda liked seeing him get blown away...

He was the Ward Boss in "Far and Away"...

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From: bcantric@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Cantrick)
Subject: DS9 wormhole .GIF desperatly wanted!
Followup-To: bcantric@bvsd.co.EDU
Summary: Where oh where has my little .gif gone?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Wormhole, GIF
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:08:23 GMT

Hi. I'm looking for a 320x200 or 640x480 (always 256 color, of course)
gif of the DS9 wormhole springing open. Anybody know a good site to check, or 
does anybody have one??

My friend is also looking for A gif of Luitenant Dax, and if you have one,
I'd like to hear about that also.

Thanks for tolerating a newbie!
(I hope to be toilet trained soon! :] )

     -Ben
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Reviewer for DSN
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:22:36 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1993Jan4.151537.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>			I may be biting off more than I can chew, but since
>I've survived from time to time solely on Tim Lynch's reviews (not having the
>stamina to pick through the net to get an idea of what others thought of an
>episode) and as lots of time his taste in episodes is about the same as mine,
>and since I'm a twit who keeps acting like he has all this free time :) , I'll
>be doing postings of my impressions of DSN to here (or to a DSN newsgroup; if
>there is one, I don't have access to it yet) on a fairly religious basis.

Please post them to rec.arts.startrek.current, where they belong.
rec.arts.startrek.misc is not intended for posts about Star Trek productions
less than (roughly) 3 months old.

At any rate, you ought to see my review of the premiere sometime Sunday. :-)
(It's not shown in Boston until Friday, and I'll be out of town Saturday.)

-- 
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University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI
( Now in the Boston, Massachusetts area! )

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"Probably.  I just do the best I can."
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Subject: Re: Space Rangers <SPOILERS>
From: <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 10 Jan 1993 22:53:42 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

>He's a _very_ forgiving audience!  And cliche is an understatement; CBS has
>once again laboured to produce yet another insult to the intelligence and
>imagination of its viewing public - particularly the imagination of those of
>us who crave science fiction storylines.
>
>Almost devoid of character and drama, they would probably do better to stick
>to the usual tired, monotone "Miami Vice" themes of contemporary non-sci-fi
>and spare the brainless masses at whom this rubbish is directed some
>confusion.
>
>I would assign this an unmitigated F.

I give CBS four weeks for the series to be cancelled, five tops.


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From: hz225wu@unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Desperately seeking DS9 Press Releases!!
Date: 11 Jan 1993 12:39:13 +0100
Organization: University of Duisburg
Reply-To: hz225wu@unidui.UUCP (Micaela Pantke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: unidui.uni-duisburg.de

Hey Folks!

I'm a startrek fan sitting in Germany and am interested in anything
concerning TNG and DS9. Because of christmas I missed some of the DS9
Press Releases (or to be precise the first three of them). Could some
kind soul be so nice to mail them to me.



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From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Comments on DS9 "Emissary" **SPOILERS**
Date: 11 Jan 93 01:25:50 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1ifik5INN28u@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>In <curtw-060193135214@146.154.24.5> curtw@euler.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
>> >
>> Excuse me, but I *haven't* seen "The Host" (or much of the last three
>> seasons of TNG), and I'm really puzzled about Dax. Is someone willing to
>> pass on a short primer? I found myself very annoyed during the flashback
>> sequence, when I realized that there were TWO intelligent beings inhabiting
>> one body, and Sisko addressed them as one. Very un-Federation like. What's
>> the deal here?
>
>  The Trill are a symbiote race.  The human-looking bipeds form the "body" and
>the slugs are the "brains".  The freaky part is that it appears the host had an
>intelligent, free-will being in it to start with.  Why they choose to be
>controlled by the slugs is beyond my comprehension.  Where does the
>"consciousness" of the host being go?This issue was never addressed in the
>original TNG episode, nor do I recall anyone asking Riker what it was like.
>While I found the flashback an effective way to explain things, I also found it
>very disturbing because this "control" aspect.  The host body looked nervous
>prior to the implantaion.  Now, one supposes that as a Fed race/races, this is
>a mutal agreement, but I find it bloody horrible.  I intend to do my best to
>forget Dax is really a body-hopping slug....
>
It may very well be that it is up to the worm how much of the host's
personality shone through.  Odan obviously preferred to be in total
control of the host but this might not be the case in Dax's case since
we have Dax considering a relationship with Doctor Bashir.
Then again there's always the possibilty that this isn't the
first time that Dax has been a woman and that she was attracted to men
even when her host was a man!
Nevertheless, I think it can be argued that Dax keeps her host aware
since it was supposedly her hosts memories that were called up in the
flashback scene.

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From: kb@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Ken Bukauski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Ethics and Holodeck
Date: 9 Jan 93 21:36:16 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Ethics and the Holodeck? Don't you mean Ethics in the Holodeck?  Either
way the bottom line is: The holodeck does not create 'living' things.  This
was expanded however in two TNG episodes where it was suggested that perhaps
holodeck creations are alive but their existence is limited to the room 
and no farther.  So this string leads us to the next question..."Are the
'things' 'living' in the holodeck acting with consent?"

This is no problem since the 'program' (limited reality) can be manipulated
in a fashion as to make this a non-issue.  So basically those who run the
programs behave like gods in a way...doing as they please in their own little
reality.  No rules are broken--though ST fans would undoubtedly agree that
a significant amount of air-time has been devoted to exactly this issue.
These previous episodes concluded that it is not 'correct' to do this...
for example the episode where the Enterprise phasers the Parthenon-like 
building to save Kirk and Kompany.  Then you have Q...but let's leave it there.

So is what a person does in privacy their own business if nobody is
adversely affected?  Interesting question....and one that is very
present in today's environment.  The answer depends on how this person
behaves when they interact in society (whether or not their 'private life'
presents a potential danger to themselves or to others).  Who should make
these decisions?  Ahhh...another good question....


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