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From: chucks@uars2.acd.ucar.edu (Chuck Smythe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,news.groups
Subject: Re: Call For Discussion: rec.arts.books.reviewed
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:31:50 GMT
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry

In article <1992Dec17.175807.22270@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes:
 ................  I realize that many people like the marginal discussions.  
>Sometimes I even like them.  For example, I enjoyed Mark Taranto's description 
>of his father's question-asking habit (though that was at least introduced 
>by way of a comment about a book).

>I feel that such a split would be a clear improvement.  I'd like to know
>how others feel.

I read this group as much for the more entertaining marginalia as for the
book discussions.  I find that my "k" key does for flame wars, Zelanys,
and other things that become tedious.  Reading a separate group would not
make it easier.  I'd probably vote "no" to a split.  Incidentally, our
network manager doesn't admit the alt. heirarchy, largely from political 
caution.  I would enjoy seeing those book reviews, or having them cross-
posted to r.a.b.  

All that said, if the signal to noise ratio got as high as that in -say- the
s.f. hierarchy, I _would_ favor a split.

			Chuck Smythe
From: spb0457@rigel.tamu.edu (SubGenius)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Is a bimbo the modern name for hussy?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 00:30 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

>I should begin with a confession of having led a sheltered life.  I
>have never heard one human refer to another as either a bimbo or
>as a hussy.  Having just bought _Bimbos of the Death Sun_ and having
>read a posting from one of the ladies of the group referring to
>herself as a hussy, I wondered if the terms are equivalent, bimbo
>being much more recent.

+------------------------------------SubG-------------------------------------+
In my book (poor reading if ever there was any, and I assure you that there
was and is), a hussy is more equivalent to `bitch,' whereas bimbo is more
semantically similar to `slut.'

But then again, I thought that a `git' was a reactionary chap with a lisp
[cough].
+------------------------------------SubG-------------------------------------+

[deletia]

>John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
>He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

+---------------------------------------SubG-----------------------------------+
..whereas those who do arithmetic are blessed to talk nonsense, concisely.









A prick, a prig,
A cad and a lout,
Yours etc.,





SubGenius
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Last Call
Date: 14 Dec 1992 17:09:40 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu

RAB symposium at Charlie Brown's tomorrow, Tuesday December the 15th at 
11:30 am. Lunch will be enlivened by some Ransome and related readings,
and will be followed by a trip round the Port of Redwood City's turning basin 
on the Good Ship FELIX to inspect:

	(1) The world's largest man-made salt pile

	(2) Powdered Chevrolets being poured into the Singapura Star
	    and transported to some other Pacific Rim country where they
	    will be melted and rexast into Hyundai.

	(3) The Warden Johnston. The only vessel registered at Alcatraz
	    where for many years it was used to trasport men and materiel
	    to and from the island hell-hole.
	    
CB's is medium priced and we shall not lose our shirts.

						Cap'n Fido
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From: mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,alt.comedy.british,soc.culture.british,alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Get fucked. Was: Re: Git (was re: Et in Arcadia ego)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 23:03:10 GMT
Organization: N.I.C.E.
Reply-To: mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.60

Jon Corelis writes:
>   I believe the rhetorical technical term for this trope is tmesis. 

Q:  Ulp!  How does one pronounce _tmesis_?

A:  Fucking-Tee-bloody-mesis; the "Fucking" is silent
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: comprehensible posts
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:57:26 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu

William R. Smith writes:

	John McCarthy writes:
	
		Not only are they probably sensible, but it has been 
		probably verified that they are comprehensible by 
		their intended recipient.

	A rarity in r.a.b. land.

Probably and probably. Each pronounced differently. I love it!

							Fido
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From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: Get fucked. Was: Re: Git (was re: Et in Arcadia ego)
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:49:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.214733.10140@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> andy rogers <rogers@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov> writes:

>         Now Fuck chases Cunt.
>         Run Cunt, run.
>         Run from fucking Fuck, the fucker.
>         Fuck wants to cunt fuck Cunt.
>         What a cunt Fuck is.
>
>         The cunt Fuck is a Cunt cunt fucking fuck up.
>         Fuck is a Cunt cunt fucking fucked up cunt.

One of Philip Larkin's best, I think.


--
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From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Re: Git (was re: Et in Arcadia ego)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:51:41 GMT

In article <DODD.92Dec11121643@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu> dodd@roebling.poly.edu writes:
>
>>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Streater <streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> writes:
>
>  Tim> In article <1992Dec11.130826.15919@abekrd.co.uk> graeme@abekrd.co.uk
>  Tim> (Graeme Griffiths) writes:
>>
>>Thank you for referring to my last post as "_very_ British". In a country
>>that is rapidly becoming just another state in the union I do try and do
>  Tim>                                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Tim>                                              |
>  Tim>                                              |
>  Tim>                          Fuck that. >--------+
>
>  Tim> Tin.
>
>ditto.

	Don't worry.  Nobody's asked.  Nobody's likely to.
-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		"The Reptoids eat humans like we eat chickens."
				Alex Alexander
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From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (JKF)
Subject: Re: Goober, a Southernism??
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 18:35:38 GMT

In article <BzB6LH.6HD@icon.rose.hp.com> bobdev@hprpcd.rose.hp.com (Bob Devereaux) writes:
>Gang--
>
>Yes, yes, I know that "goober" means peanut.  And I know that Goober was
>a character on the Andy Griffith show.  My point is, neither of these
>makes sense as a griffito.  Let me be more explicit:  Does "Debbie Loves
>Goober" have a more specifically sexual connotation in Southern (or
>elsewhere) slang?
>
>Robert Devereaux

"Goober" is also a nickname.  I've known several "Goober"s in Georgia and
Virginia.  No particular demeaning connotations associated as far as I
know... it was just what we called them.
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From: fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster)
Subject: Re: Call For Discussion: rec.arts.books.reviewed
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:42:02 GMT

Dennis Brennan writes:
>Is it worthwhile to ask for two groups, say, one for fiction and
>the other for non-fiction?

Please, no!!  Where would we would-be essayists who like to read
fiction, and write postings and reviews pertaining to all of the above
go, then?  Rec.books.eclectic.reviewed?  It's either all non-fiction,
or it's all fiction, is what I say.  (More likely the latter...(-:)

							--Fiona
From: stefan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefan Michalowski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: "The Making of the Atomic Bomb"
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:13:40 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

Sandra Loosemore writes:
>A few months ago, I picked up a copy of Richard Rhodes' "The Making of
>the Atomic Bomb" at a remainder sale, and I've finally gotten around
>to reading it.  This has to be the best book about the history of
>science that I've ever encountered...

An excellent book. It won all sorts of awards, too. Everyone was waiting
to see what Rhodes would write next. Last year, he published his latest:
a highly detailed personal monograph on the subject of his sexual 
experiences since (and including) his childhood. The title escapes me, 
but reviewers had a field day.

Stefan.
From: mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re:Another club within a club! (Was: excellent reading!)
Date: 12 Dec 1992 11:48:23 -0500
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS
NNTP-Posting-Host: emory.mathcs.emory.edu

Mark admits: 
> >I found Tom's original one-liner amusing, and not the least bit snotty. 

Heather retorts: 
> I can see how it would appeal to you.

Ah, I see it now.  Another r.a.b. club is forming in the
distance.  Let me see if I can make it out....
LOINRETSH -- Loyal Order of INdividuals Richly Earning
the Scorn of Heather.

I hear the list is already quite long; it only remains
to adopt a name, elect a prezzie, monogram a few
chamber pots...

Never Nice,

meg


-- 

 Meg Worley 				Internet:  mworley@mathcs.emory.edu		
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From: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires)
Subject: Re: All I want for xmas 
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 21:48:09 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Dec16.222454.7295@cs.brown.edu> ks@cs.brown.edu (Kate Sanders) writes:
>>
>>Walking Across Egypt		Claude Edgerton		humorous travel
>
>This is a great book, but you will be disappointed if you're expecting
>something along the lines of the Blue Guide to Egypt! It's fiction,
>set in a small town in the South, and the title comes from a hymn.

	The hymn is printed in the back of the book (music and all),
	and I believe is written by the author as well.
	I also enjoyed it (another 50 cent gem from the thrift shop),
	and recall that printed on the cover were positive reviews of
	his first book;  the title escapes me, but can someone
	comment on how good that one was?

>
>Kate

rms
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From: ah@dunaad.co.uk (Alan Hunter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi, Fantasy & Horror collection suggestions
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:38:15 GMT
Organization: Johnson Hunter Limited

>In article <ESCHNEID.92Dec8230913@sparc31.tamu.edu>
>eschneid@sparc31.tamu.edu (Erich R Schneider) writes: 

>> What do they do, then, when you give them _Stars in My Pocket Like
>> Grains of Sand_? If the radical Christian right ever finds out about
>> this one, they're going to be _very_ upset.
>

They always promise to bring it back next time, then, sheepishly, 'Err, do you
have the next part?'.  I get some very suspicious looks when I tell them
its not out yet, especially in the last few years.  No one seems to
believe he should take that long to write a sequel.

Two thoughts:

1. My son on hearing that David eddings had had a heart attack half way
through a four parter.

2. Me, when I heard that Richard Hughes had died. (I believed, at that
time, that "The Human Predicament" had more volumes to come.)  Why didn't
he write more?  Why doesn't everyone else write less and take as much care
as Hughes did?

Rgds
Alan

-- 
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Johnson Hunter Ltd
Isle of Islay, Scotland
A.Hunter@dunaad.co.uk          fax: +44-496-2336         voice: +44-496-2286
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From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Re: Great gift books for me!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 09:22:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.041607.25848@athena.mit.edu> kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan) writes:
>The Letters of Evelyn Waugh and Diana Cooper ed. Atremis Cooper

	And there's the second volume of what's his name's biography of
Waugh, published this fall.

	Oh bugger, I thought I'd remember his name and don't.


-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
	"That's a bird bone, chair, Bob.  I don't know if I should sit there."
				Tom Waits
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Robertson Davis [sic]
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:11:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.213831.340@news2.cis.umn.edu> hiroki@limerick.cbs.umn.edu writes:
>Are all Davies' books about celibate/near celibate  protagonists? 
>Seemed to notice this in (something something) malice and the 
>Deptford trilogy. This was probably reinforced because I had read
>A Prayer for Owen Meany by Irving(?) in which Davies' is mentioned, first,
>and also is, in my mind a similar, uh, environment.  
>

Hmmmm . . . well not all of them feature celibate protagonists.  _Fifth
Business_ leaps to mind.  "Near celibate" is a matter of degree which you're
going to have to define better.  How many sexual experiences does it take
before one is no longer classified "near celibate"?

Davies does not shy away from sex but neither does he place undue emphasis
upon it.  I for one, find it quite a refreshing change of pace.

****************************************************************************
 I understand it's obligatory to mention Kibo somewhere in one's postings.
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		Email:  stame@emunix.emich.edu
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Disclaimer:  Not only do my opinions represent those of Eastern Michigan
University, but also those of Dan Quayle, Richard Nixon, Frank Zappa,
Pee-wee Herman, Bart Simpson, Tipper Gore, Murphy Brown, Maggie Thatcher,
and the Easter Bunny.
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From: scottg@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCOTT GEORGE NORMAN)
Subject: Re: Esquimaux Nell
Reply-To: george@windslc.nrel.gov
Organization: Colorado State Reformatory for Young Hussies and Trollops
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:14:47 GMT

kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover) writes:

>In article <1992Dec14.152313.25908@athena.cs.uga.edu> fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller) writes:
>>
>>     Hope makes me ask for improbabilities.  Does the Ballad of Eskimo Nell
>>actually exist?
>>

>All I can remember of something that was called "The Ballad of
>Eskimo Nell" begins thusly:

>	Don't look at me that way, stranger.
>	My pants ain't full of shit.
>	It's just this bloody syphyllis
>	Eating me bit by bit.

Oops, wrong poem!
  Eskimo Nell starts out:

When a man grows old and his balls grow cold,
and the knob on the end turns blue,
and it bends in the middle like a one-string fiddle,
he can tell you a tale or two.

and goes on for 30 or so more verses.

If David can remember the rest of _his_ ballad (whatever it is), I'll mail
him the complete Eskimo Nell. I've got it in 2 or 3 different books.

Is Kipling really the author? None of my versions credited anyone with it.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,talk.philosophy.misc
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: The word "homophobic"
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<OZ.92Dec15110751@ursa.sis.yorku.ca>
	<1992Dec15.145101.18530@husc3.harvard.edu>
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:14:40

I thought mentioning Dennett would make Zeleny flip.  I think its an
intra-Cambridge tribal war.  I would like to know who all the
combatants are.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
From: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: alcoholics synonymous
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:14:59 EST
Reply-To: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley) writes:

>            What are your favorite books that are
>sodden with booze of any flavor?

*Alcoholics Anonymous*.  In other words, the so-called big book of AA.
The real life first person accounts in it can't be beat.

Dale Smoak
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From: cei308@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jet Girl)
Subject: Re: A modest proposal (was: Git)
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:14:02 GMT

In article <9212161915.AA21336@lib.uwo.ca> Margaret Martin Gardiner <gardiner@lib.uwo.ca> writes:
>
>
>
>> hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu (Heather) writes:
>>  
>> > "Knickers in an uproar": what a splendid phrase!!  Even though we Yanks
>> > would use the word "panties"...
>>  
>> I've always heard it as "Don't get your panties in a bunch."
>>  
>> Mark
>
>Here in Canada I hear it as "Don't get your knickers in a twist".
>Any other variations on this?
>
>Margaret
>


We have it over here as "dont get your knickers in a twist" too...
what's all this bunch business???

Joolz
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From: djohnson@cayenne.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,alt.comedy.british,soc.culture.british,alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Git (was re: Et in Arcadia ego)
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:18:56 GMT
Organization: Fill is a dope
In-reply-to: sue@netcom.com's message of Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:35:26 GMTLines: 19

In article <1992Dec13.193526.7387@netcom.com> sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
.In article <ryh2g_b@rpi.edu> kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
.>In article <1992Dec12.184931.18852@nevada.edu>, wwhitman@nevada.edu (MICHAEL WISE) writes:
.>
.>|> stop telling that there own fucking dialect is so fucking superior to 
.>.......^^^^^
.> You might try taking some fucking grammar lessons while you're at it.
.>That usage is wrong on either side of the fucking pond. 
.> 
.> (Don't fucking flame me, it's a fucking joke!)

.You've just gone and fucking done just the fucking kind of followup
.about which he was making a fucking complaint.

Fuck fucking fuck, fuck the fuck in "fucking fuck" fuck, and fuck the
fucker's fucker...And fuck fuckin' fucking, and fuck fuck while you're
at it.

Dan aka You don't want to hear...
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From: yarnot@babbage.csus.edu (Jan Yarnot)
Subject: Re: excellent reading!
Organization: Moi?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 16:51:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.005627.10183@u.washington.edu> twain@milton.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin) writes:
>In article <1gajmlINN5j8@morrow.stanford.edu> francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes:
>>Barbara Hlavin writes:
>>>
>>>	My own assumption was that Tom was suggesting that there was a 
>>>	piece of information about the book that might be of interest 
>>>	to the person recommending it. 
>
>>Somewhat disingenuous Barbara. If McDogsnot really believed that, why
>>did he not just publish the factoid?
>>
>Well, you see, Francis, I thought it the kind of humorous observation 
>one person might make to a group of friends who had just spent ten hours 
>discussing the merits of, say, _Atlas Shrugged_ when a new person 
>enters the room and says brightly, "Say, has anyone ever heard of 
>Ayn Rand?"  -The equivalent of a wry exchange of glances in a family 
>gathering. 

Wasn't the discussion about EDUCATION OF LITTLE TREE last spring sometime?
There's been a lot of "canon" and Zeleny under the bridge since then.
I just assumed, myself, that Tom was being his usual charming net.self.
>
>Not particularly indulgent to the new-comer, perhaps

True.

ObBook: I wish there were a sequel to Lodge's SOULS AND BODIES.
--
---Jan Yarnot, net.grandma.-- | Peace on Earth
                              | to people of goodwill.

CSUS depends on my every word.    
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From: hoosiers@carson.u.washington.edu (Mary Loveless)
Subject: Re: All I want for xmas 
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:00:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.222454.7295@cs.brown.edu> ks@cs.brown.edu (Kate Sanders) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.161536.23882@nas.nasa.gov>
>wismith@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (William R. Smith) writes: 
>[long list of xmas books, including:]
>>
>>Walking Across Egypt		Clude Edgerton		humorous travel
>>
>
>This is a great book, but you will be disappointed if you're expecting
>something along the lines of the Blue Guide to Egypt! It's fiction,
>set in a small town in the South, and the title comes from a hymn.
>The central character is a likeable, independent, elderly woman
>living on her own; what i remember is the humorous interaction of
>characters, rather than the plot. I have in fact given this as a
>Christmas present, and both I and the donee have lent it to various
>people, and all of us liked it.
>

---------------------------------------------------------------------------->
The plot, were one needed, with all the richness of Edgerton's characters,
is set in motion when the old lady decides to follow the teachings of her
bible and takes on the care and feeding of a juvenile delinquent.  
I love this book, but had no idea anyone *else* had read it.  Silly me!

What do I want for Christmas? 

~a hardbound single volume set of E.F. Benson's Lucia series.  
~the same for Jane Austen's novels, maybe with a glossary in the back.
 (what *is* a haha!?)
~A complete set of the 1st edition Oz novels
~A new dustcover for my hardbound _Ozark Trilogy_ (never lend out-of-print
 books to families with a lot of kids!)

It sounds disgracefully self-indulgent, but other than that, I have every
single book I want, including almost everything by Robertson Davies and Doris
Lessing.  

Mary Loveless

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