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From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re: The fittest people on the planet.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:34:56 GMT
Keywords: balance in life

In article <C1Hnyw.5zy@csn.org> pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
>In article <1jm16oINNoik@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> laurie@bnr.co.uk (Laurie Constantin) writes:
>
>>It's very sad that bodybuilding and powerlifting can be at both extremes of
>>the health scale - on the one hand, recreational body builders and
>>powerlifters (and natural competitors in those sports) are probably a group
>>of the healthiest, fittest people on the planet.
>
>If you add "by some criteria" to the end, I'd agree with you.

Phil,
I think that you are "quibbling" a bit here. If Laurie had said something to
suggest that powerlifters/bodybuilders were _the_ healthiest/fittest folx
on the planet, exclusive of others, then your comments would make sense
to me.
>
>In my book, all-around SpeedSkaters are some of the greatest atheletes around.
>Not only do they have to have fantastic speed and agility for the sprints,
>they must have huge endurance and tolerance for pain in the longer events.
>Every second that they're on the ice they must balance on very thin edges. And
>the amount of committment (and strength!) that it takes to "dive" into a turn
>-- going 60 to 70 degrees off of vertical -- is simply unimaginable to people
>who haven't done it.

Your comments regarding speed skaters are well noted, but let's not forget
bicycle racers, gymnasts, swimmers, wrestlers, and soccer players. Most sports,
especially _individual_ sports, can be very exacting, physically, once you get
well beyond the novice level. (to the other folx out there, if I left out your
sport, there was no slight intended..... tryin' to keep this short, y'know :-))
>
>The atheletes who compete in the world aerobic championships rate pretty high,
>too.
>
>>Laurie, a concerned and drug-free powerlifter.
>
>--phil

Keith R
From: loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Raw Eggs, Cooked Eggs, etc.
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:48:07 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1993Jan22.215613.17415@panix.com>, paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker) writes:
> In <1993Jan21.213039.27040@sol.UVic.CA> dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) writes:
> 
>>>>
>>>So anybody know how serious Salmonellosis is?  I mean, can you die
>>>from it?  Are there long term effects?
>>>
> 
>>I recall a study out within the last year that showed about 20% ??? of people
>>contracting it would develope arthritus of the lower back. Usually lasting
>>several months, but it can be permanent. Something one should not take
>>a chance with.
> 
> 
>  I recall reading that the Salmonella bacterium is more present on the outside
> shell of the egg than on the inside!?
> 
>  I don't remember the source though. This may or may not be true. Has anyone
> else seen this info?

What's the difference?  When you crack the egg open, part of the white touches
the outside of the shell when you dump it out to begin with.

> 
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From: berrin@chocorua (Berrin Yanikoglu)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Tendonitis
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:52:59 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I first had tendonitis on my knee and elbow 6 months ago and
I still have problems with them from time to time, especially
if I over exercise. Stretching and working my quadriceps (my legs
in general) helped a lot (I was having trouble walking and standing
up etc. and now I can do most sports, just in moderation.) 
For my elbow, it seems like time is the only solution, working out
made it worse, at least initially.

berrin
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: magdi@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Magdi N Azer)
Subject: Is it okay to run with shin splints
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:17:30 GMT

Thanks to all who reponded to my previous post.  I have another question.
If a person is doing some of the exercises/stretches to help alleviate
shin splints, is it okay to continue running, or should additional time
be taken off in order to allow for recuperation?  Also, assuming that you
begin doing the exercises today, how long does it take for the exercises to
show results.  Any responses would be helpful

Magdi N. Azer
magdi@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:55:44 -0500 
From: Phil Andrews <pa0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Anthony Clark: Latest Feats





>aleck@athena.mit.edu (Aleck H Alexopoulos) writes:
>>I posted a while ago some of the incredible lifts of Anthony Clark
>...
>>Thursday: Heavy Back Day
>>         Deadlifts (up to 680 for 4reps)
>>           Bent over barbell row (up to 405 for 8 reps)
>>         lat pulldowns 3 sets of5 reps at 300
>
>But why so little on the lat pulldowns?  That implies he couldn't do
>5 chinups (at 330 lbs).  I weigh 165 and do 6x210, and I can do 16-20
>chinups.
>
Almost all lat machines top out at 300 lbs, many powerlifters (myself included)
will do a few sets with the pin under the full rack as a morale booster at
the end of the workout.

I saw Clark lift at last year's APF championships, he's strong but there are
several more impressive lifters around. His 1025 squat was miles high and,
I believe, retroactively disqualified as a record. His reverse-grip bench
allows him to touch the bar on his belly, considerably higher than his pecs
or rib cage. With his short limbs and thick thighs, his dead lifts are less
than many lighter lifters (including me) can do.

The most impressive lifter at the APF champs was Scott Warman, as a light
275 lb lifter (~260 lbs) he squatted >950 lbs, benched >510 lbs and deadlifted
>840 lbs,  with all of these lifts being very clean and impressive. He would
undoubtedly beat Clark in the total under strict judging.
Of course APF meets are not tested for
drugs; there are excellent lifters in the drug tested world, also. Last October
I saw Vic Kennedy make an excellent squat of 944 lbs in an ADFPA meet at
superheavy. He may be a better squatter than Clark, Clark may never have hit
a legal depth with >944.
-Phil Andrews
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: amazing deadlift
Keywords: li'l pudgy
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:13:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1993Jan25.232050.3541@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.185141.18912@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
>[....]
>>of deadlift poundages. After about three weeks of "ramping up", this little
>>baby-doll-lookin' young woman was pulling 300 lbs. in the deadlift. I still
>>do not know just how strong she was, as 300 lbs. was all of the iron that I
>>had at that time. Bear in mind that we are talking about a young woman who
>>was basically untrained (as far as weight-training) at this point. I can
>>hardly imagine what she might be able to do with a coupla' years worth of
>>hard training under her belt.
>>
>Probably quite a bit.  But it's probably determined not so much by her
>strength, but the actual distance she had to lift the weight, and the
>fact that at 5'2", she probably didn't have to bend her back nearly as
>much as you.  A more accurate measure of her strength would probably
>be found in other movements.
>
>GMS

I had thought about that. There are certain advantages to being built
"low to the ground". On the other hand, her stature would not make it
any easier for her to grip the bar. Twice bodyweight+ is still twice
bodyweight+ as far as the grip strength is concerned. As far as finding
out what she was capable of in other lifts, well, we never got the chance.

Keith R
From: mazur@bluefin.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Calorie Question
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:37:20 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.

In article <C1FGqr.6v9@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> rdorocke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (rob lawrence dorocke) writes:
>
>How many calories are burned per mile, on average at a jogging speed?
>
A useful approximation is your body weight * 2/3.  This means a 150lb
person will burn about 100 calories per mile.

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson)
Subject: Re: Hidden fat and cholesterol myths
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:04:14 GMT

YEs, and what has made me hopping mad for years now, is the advertising of
high fat food items as "cholesterol free". When this grossly misleading
labelling encourages people to think that the "cholesterol free" product is
GOOD for them, we have a major ethical breach.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: chuckr@bnr.ca (Buster Castelloe P015)
Subject: Growth
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:42:17 GMT

Quick question on muscle growth.
Say I do three shoulder excercises, one for overall ( mil press ),
one for front delt and one for rear delt.
Does growth depend on which exercise is done first as long as I take
each to failure??

Buster is just the owner... the chuckr
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Subject: Re: Raw Eggs, Cooked Eggs, etc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:56:13 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1993Jan21.213039.27040@sol.UVic.CA> dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) writes:

>>>
>>So anybody know how serious Salmonellosis is?  I mean, can you die
>>from it?  Are there long term effects?
>>

>I recall a study out within the last year that showed about 20% ??? of people
>contracting it would develope arthritus of the lower back. Usually lasting
>several months, but it can be permanent. Something one should not take
>a chance with.


 I recall reading that the Salmonella bacterium is more present on the outside
shell of the egg than on the inside!?

 I don't remember the source though. This may or may not be true. Has anyone
else seen this info?

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From: ccsdhd@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Dennis Davis)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.running
Subject: Re: Metabolic Rate question
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:02:43 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

In the referenced article, kenl@origami.cc.bellcore.com (Ken Lehner) writes:
>I saw an interview with the members of the music group "Right Said Fred"
>("I'm Too Sexy"), in which one member described the girlfriend of the
>other member as "the town bike".  Referring to the fact that everyone
>had ridden her...

In his amusing book "A Word in Your Ear", Philip Howard devotes a few
pages to such expressions.  Other bicycle-derived slang expressions,
such as the French expression "Il a perdu ses pedales" which indicates
someone who isn't quite the full ticket, are included.

I've certainly heard this expression being used, although not
recently.  Eric Partridge ("Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional
English") suggests it is Australian slang dating from the 1920's.
Howard has a private communication indicating its use in a
Gloucestershire court in the 1930's.  The exact source of the
expression is probably almost impossible to discern.

>Nothing to do with THIS thread, of course.

... but probably the most appropriate Newsgroup.  If, for example,
it (and this) had been posted to rec.bicycles.tech, they would want to
argue over the type and technical merits of the pedals forgotten by the
Frenchman.  I'd plump for Cinelli M71's for no other reason than they
are obsolete and I've only ever seen one pair of them ...
-- 
Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK
D.H.Davis@bath.ac.uk
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:40:48 -0500 
From: Kimberly Sewright <ks57+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: workout tapes

>Can any of you recommend a good aerobic workout tape?  There are
>so many out there now, it seems that just about everyone is making
>a tape.
> 
>Thanks, Wanda


It all depends on what type of aerobics you want to do, style, intensity
and duration.

Are you a beginner, intermediate, advanced?
Do you own a step? weights?

Kathy Smith is no nonsense, pretty creative and gives you a good workout.
Kari Anderson is GREAT! A little more complicated. She has a new tape
called"Two the Max" which is 20 min. step and 20 min. high/low
aerobics--My personal favorite.
Karen Voight is excellent for strength training-- But, again, you need a
beench and hand weights.

Hope that helps,
Kim
From: mfuchs@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mike Fuchs)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: AERO FLEX GYM ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:20:30 GMT
Expires: 3 Feb 93 05:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: mfuchs@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mike Fuchs)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


	 Has anyone had any experience with this gym in rockville ?
	 This gym seems to have more equipment then any .other
	 gym in my area.  I belong to world's now but.its.rather
	 costly for the amount of amendities.  They have some rather
	 unique pieces of equipment whichI've never seen(like
	 a biceps isolater).......... Man what a pump. Does any
	 one have any comments regarding this gym.Any info is
	 appreciated.

				       Mike

	       Also,they have trainers available.at.no.extra.charge.
From: pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Nordic Trak vs. Fit One
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:29:47 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

In article <1993Jan26.214020.1304@calvin.edu> clak@calvin.edu (Kelly James Clark) writes:
>I saw a Joe and Jennifer Montana infomercial extolling the virtues of a ski
>machine named Fit One.  Their statistics proved it was better than Nordic
>Trac.  And it is cheaper.  My wife is interested in a ski machine.  Any
>advice?

The Fit One is a PushMe/PullYou device. It does not use a flywheel. It lacks
the smoothness of (at least the higher-end) Nordic Track machines.

Differences in exercise effectiveness should be infitesimal at best. You're
far better off finding a machine you like and will use!

>Anyone with either machine is invited to extoll the virtues of their own; but
>that special someone who has tried both machines is especially invited to
>reply.

Fit One machines are available at all sorts of retail outlets; you should be
able to try it yourself. Nordic Track has booths in many malls and is starting
to put in some permanent stores in major cities.

You should have no problem evaluating the differences yourself.

--phil
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: bishop@rutile.enet.dec.com (Lewis Bishop)
Subject: Primary Protein intake.
Reply-To: bishop@rutile.enet.dec.com (Lewis Bishop)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:34:50 GMT


Hi all,

  Thanks for the replies on aerobic ativities (specifically running) in regards
to weight gain whilst lifting weights. I have decided to leave running until i
am happy with the gains made up to that point.

  I have another beginner question now. The following day after a workout i
should be filling myself with protein so that the muscles can recouperate and build - right?

  Whilst i have seen the discussions on eggs (the best source of protein) i
cannot eat eggs at work (too many complaints) so i'm relying on milk as my
primary source of protein. I'm typically going through 1 litre of milk in
the day. How will this affect weight gains and more specifically, is this
enough? I find that 1 litre is not very hard to consume, but i wouldn't want
to try and drink too much more... it tends to bloat a little.

  I have no problems as far as eating foods with protein... i LOVE chicken and
could eat it every day whether or not i was intedning to gain weight. More 
often than not my meals after a workout are; Chicken on rice/Chicken with vegs and potatoes, bowl of cereal, 3 maybe 4 eggs. But that's about it really. Having 2 a weeke evenings dedicated to working out a week is the max i can manage. My diet tends to suffer a bit on the other days.

Thanks again for any input! Cheers,


					Lewis.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: CINDY CRAWFORD VIDEO ?
From: convery@pa621a.inland.com
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:59:28 CDT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
Nntp-Posting-User: khuon


Could someone please recommend a good aerobics video.

I am looking for something to do in the morning to sort of

get me jumpstarted.  I would prefer a video that gives the

entire body a good overall workout, especially the lower

body - legs and abdomen.


I have heard that the Cindy Crawford video, actually contains

excercises that doctors and PTs claim can be dangerous or

damaging.  That is why I am asking if anyone has read a review or

critique of aerobic/excercise videos.


Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey)
Subject: Address for Arnold Schwarzenegger, Clint Eastwood?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:44:02 GMT

I hope this is miscellaneous enough.

I want to write to Arnold and Clint.  Especially Arnold.  I'd also appreciate
some clever advice on how to find out the right addresses for writing to
famous people in general.  But for right now, I really need to write to
Arnold.

By the way, I tried sending something in care of USA Weekend, for whom he's
writing a column on fitness.  They waited several weeks to send me a postcard
saying they wouldn't forward anything but fitness questions to him.  Harumph.

  Thanks awfully,
            Patrick

Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: biesel@javelin.sim.es.com (Heiner Biesel)
Subject: Re: Magnets and tv screens
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:22:51 GMT

cdl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CONRAD DANIEL LLOYD-KNIGHT) writes:

>In article <1993Jan16.054150.5565@netcom.com>, rchao@netcom.com (Robert Chao) wr
>ites:
>>When I was small I put a small magnet on our color TV screen. Of course
>>it screwed up the color. there was a green blob that floated around
>>but never went away. A friend waved a magnet ring thing around it but
>>the green thing stayed.
>>
>>Generally, will TVs today be wrecked by a magnet? Is there a way to fix it?
>>
>>--
>>Robert Chao
>>Oakland, California
>>

>Hey yeah, I'd like to know if there's any way to fix it! You see, TV's today
>CAN be wrecked by a magnet - guess how this idiot found out! The cable went
>out during a storm (the cable company itself was probably hit) and I decided
>to entertain my baby sister.
>Me thinking: duh...no TV....duh.....Pretty snow all over the screen....duh.....
>             wow you can see colours in it!.....hey wow, like, you could make
>             your own colours with a magnet and stuff.....magnet just pulls
>             electrons off course, hitting all the coloured bits..... hey,
>             kid, watch this...psychedelic, man......,etc. etc. etc...
>Imagine my shock, horror, surprise,etc. after the colours didn't disappear
>when I took the magnet away. Even when the cable came back on. Even after two
>days. Even after two months! I took the magnet to it again, thinking if I
>reversed the magnet, won't it push back whatever it pulled last time? Didn't
>work, of course, but managed to improve it slightly. Still left with a green
>splodge in the top right hand corner.
>Does anyone know why the colours are stuck there?
>Anyone know how to fix it?
>help!

You need to degauss the CRT. You can buy a degaussing coil at some electronics 
stores,  and your TV repair shop will almost certainly have one. It's simply 
a coil hooked up to AC that generates a 60 Hz magnetic field. Hold the coil 
close to the front of the CRT, turn it on, and while moving it in small 
circles slowly pull it away from the CRT. Voila, the colors go away.

Regards,
       H. Biesel
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From: sarty@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Jay A. DeSart)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,talk.bizarre,misc.consumers,rec.misc
Subject: Re: What heappened at 10:09 (Watch adds)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 00:23:50 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30

In article <1993Jan15.153458.29870@cgrg.ohio-state.edu> phil@cgrg.ohio-state.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan15.123554.15659@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>, rsl@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Russell S. Laderer) writes:
>|> An interesting aside to this thread can be found in the back of
>|> the current "Consumer Reports".  An ad for a talking Mickey Mouse (tm)
>|> watch (with the face reading 10:09-digital) had a caption with
>|> Mickey "saying", "It's 12:30."  A spokesman for the company reported
>|> that standard industry procedure was to set all watches to 10:09,
>|> but this had apparently escaped the attention of the ad dept.
>
>Isn't this the time that Lincoln died? . . . seems to me (is this an UL??) that
>I heard that the watchmakers agreed to set the time to this in his honor . . .
>
>Comments?

No, I'm afraid that you are incorrect.  The REAL reason for this is that
19th century clockmakers wanted to start an uban legend.  So what they did
was hire John Wilkes Booth to assassinate Lincoln.  Andrew Johnson's
father was a clock maker.  In any event, they told Booth to shoot Lincoln
"a little bit after 10" to give them a reason to make their ads look nice.
But as it turns out, their instructions were too vague, so Booth shot him
too late.  Wanting to cover up their plot, the clock makers abducted Booth
as he made his way out of Washington.  A vagrant was then beat up, put in
a barn and the clock makers set up a network to give leads to the authorities
that eventually led them to the barn that was deliberately set on fire by a mole
in the Army detachment that was sent to capture him.

Subsequent attempts with Garfield and McKinley also failed.

They then paid Emperor Hirohito of Japan to start a war . . . . . . .



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jay A. DeSart                           "I speak. . .not with any sense of
Dept of Political Science            futility, but with a panicky conviction
Bolton 617a  UW-Milwaukee            of the absolute meaninglessness of
(414) 229-4484                       existence which could easily be
				     misinterpreted as pessimism."
                                                             Woody Allen

. . . And several butcher's aprons.
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor)
Subject: Re: Are YOU in a foreign country??
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:11:06 GMT

alrobins@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Amanda Robinson) writes:

>In article <1993Jan24.180303.3005@gacvx2.gac.edu> (B. Hadden) writes:
>>I like collecting stamps.  My goal is to try and collect one stamp, which
>>has never been used, from every country in the world. If you are in a
>>foreign land, please contact me and I'll let you know if you can help. 
>>Thanks!!  
>>Please e-mail at--> BHADDEN@nic.gac.edu

>Define "foreign".  I'm in the U.S., which is a foreign country to everyone 
>who is not in the U.S....

And I'm right here in Australia, so *thats* not foreign.



							Steve
From: baileydj@eee.bham.ac.uk (Mr. David John Bailey)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: test
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:45:32 GMT
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