From: michael@albert.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.elections,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: DATELINE: Bush fucks up!
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:30:41 GMT
	<1992Aug17.192239.18425@sco.COM> <19768@plains.NoDak.edu>
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In-reply-to: green@plains.NoDak.edu's message of 18 Aug 92 04:51:32 GMT

In article <19768@plains.NoDak.edu> green@plains.NoDak.edu (Brad Green) writes:
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   Another thing the PA folks can't seem to understand is the poll results.  As
   a good example, in North Dakota last year a poll was conducted that made the
   news as North Dakotans Support Abortion.  But when you read the results, you
   find that only 25% support abortion on demand.  The other 75% either oppose
   abortion in all cases, or support it in certain cases.  The same holds true
   of the Pennsylvania case.  Most polls show 70-80% support the "restrictions"
   in the Pennsylvania law.  The overwhelming majority of the American people
   oppose abortion for purposes of sex selection, convienence, economic hardship,
   etc.  They find nothing wrong with a 24 hour waiting period, or parental
   NOTIFICATION (notice the wording, not parental CONSENT, but NOTIFICATION).
   Abortion on demand is just that, all gloves off, abortion for ANY reason.
   The idea that a child would be aborted just because it was the wrong sex
   smacks of Nazi Germany and in particuliar, Communist China.  It's sick.

Yes, the idea that an abortion may be performed beacause of something
as trivial as gender *can* be a sickening thought. That it smacks of
Nazi Germany, however, is something else. While I'm sure that someone
will be able to show that the Nazi regime forced women of
"undesirable descent" to have abortions, Hitler did state something
along the lines that it was a woman's duty to the Fatherland to have
plenty of Aryan children. That's right- he wanted children (the "right"
 kind of children) to live. I don't have to quote nearby, but if
you're interested, e-mail me and I'll dig it up. If enough ask,
I'll post it. The point is that many people don't want the gov't
telling them whether or not they may perform an action - any action -
and abortion falls into this category. 

As for polls, 75 % of the people in PA don't have to have abortions.
No one is twisting their arms to take them to the clinics. They can
have all the children they want.

  =Now, all you right-headed pro-abortion (cut the "pro-choice" crap), can
  =start the flaming, like most liberals, you can't handle common sense.

There is no crap to cut. I'm not asking people to have abortions.
I'm not asking them to carry their children to term.
All I ask is that the gov't get off my f*cking back.
As for choice being the domain of liberals, I am afraid you're not
entirely correct. Libertarians, who may or may not personally
like the idea of abortion, don't want to be told by the gov't what to
do. It's not the gov't's business to legislate morality.

What you seem to forget, is that there are some of us out here
who lead responsible lives and don't need the gov't to force
us to act in accordance with someone's grand idea of a moral-ethic.
We do quite well on our own. We even have children.

In any case, I can't have an abortion. I'm male.

"Common sense is what tells you the world is flat."
                                   -Principia Discordia
Chaplin.

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