HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet laws in Congress? (was: Re: Helmet Law Editorial)
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:01:15 GMT
	<1992Sep2.134129.9618@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
	<moseley.70.715462158@u.washington.edu>
	<1992Sep3.011727.17599@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: mf@dancer.uucp's message of 3 Sep 92 01:17:27 GMT

>>>>> On 3 Sep 92 01:17:27 GMT, mf@dancer.uucp (24241-fusco) said:
mf> state helmet law but "does transfer a small portion of transportation 
mf> funding to public safety programs in states that do not adopt such laws 
mf> by 1994."  (meaning the state gets less $$$ for safety programs)

It means nothing of the kind.  For example, 402 monies have been, are,
and will be subject to application to NHTSA.  Startup costs for
highway safety programs get priority and this has nothing to do with
the Federal Highway bill.  In fact, states which allocate more to
highway safety will start more projects and probably end up with MORE
402 funding if they play the applications right!  Where did you get
the impression that other allocations are decreased?

mf>   Apparently S. 2204 ...
mf>   Hon. Pallone says that H.R. 4207...
mf> Anyone know the status of these bills?

I assure you that the rights group near you is on top of it.  If you
don't know who else to ask, try contacting AMA gov't relations.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>      "Have you hugged the curves today?"
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.              MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
From: atheist@Apocalypse.CAD.UCLA.EDU (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: couple of things
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:21:02 GMT
Organization: U.C.L.A. Computer Aided Design Laboratory


Someone had posted want the letter ratings on the tires mean, could
someone mail me that post.  I lost it.


Also, Is it possible for clymer to print smaller or more out of focus pictures?

I just got a tank bag for my EX-500.  I'll see if it stays on shortly . . . 


One last thing,  what's the IP address of cleveland freenet, I had it
but I lost it   . . .   (that's what I get for having accounts all over
the united states . . . )


EX-500 Pilot who hasn't made a sig for this site yet

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent)
Subject: Competition Accessories - another tale
Organization: NASA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:09:23 GMT

Well, it seems that some previous posts (names long lost now) were right.
When you order, BE SURE to ask if it is in stock if you care when it will
be shipped.  Apparently they tell you 7-10 days regardless, and two weeks
later when you inquire what happened, you find that the item is backordered.
This on an item which is actually in the magazine ad (tie-downs) and can 
reasonably be expected to be in stock.

If you're in a hurry, be careful!

-----------------------------------------------
Tom Gent  tom-gent@kssib.ksc.nasa.gov
89 ZX-10    84 Sabre    no DoD#    no .sig   no reason, just lazy
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:31354 rec.nude:4421
From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.nude
Subject: Re: Call for votes - rec.motorcycles.nude
Date: 11 Sep 1992 06:11:32 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu
Keywords: Full moons ride!

In article <72169@apple.Apple.COM> jevans@Apple.COM (David Jevans) writes:
>Following the success of the First Annual Nude Ride 'N Feed, on Sept 6, 1992,
>I propose the formation of a new newsgroup, rec.motorcycles.nude!

I vote yes.  I rode my motorcycle around the grounds at McConville while
nude during the 1991 Western Naturist Gathering.

>This group will be devoted to the discussion of all things related to
>buff biking!  Upcoming articles include:
>	- Does the CA helmet law apply when riding nude?

I keep thinking it would be so great to ride around the state capitol in
Sacramento wearing only a helmut and sandals.  I suspect it would be legal
under right to protest laws.

>David Jevans            "Ride Free, Ride Nude!"          (408) 862-3025
			 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'll second that motion.

-- 
===============================================================================
Thomas Earl Middleton		| Camping Bares:  "An Anarchist Disorganization
aka Happy Bare			| Dedicated to the Destruction of the Fabric of
middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu	| Our Society"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Accident Report!!!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:45:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.202541.4018@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
>|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |

I'd just like to say after four phone calls to Aerostich I still have not
received their catalog. Cliff thank you for the catalog. Interesting
stamp by the way. I'd like to nominate Cliff for the "Aerostich nonemployee
of the month".
God I hope I don't need any alterations.
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: X-reg in the UK?
Date: 4 Sep 92 09:54:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.203408.2205@exu.ericsson.se>, lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos) writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.172407.16295@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
> >
> >Would someone from the UK please tell me what 'J-reg', 'D-reg', etc. means?
> >Does it have something to do with the tiered liscensing system?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
> [...] 
> 
> Not all letters are used. Q is reserved for personal imports/construction etc...
> Sometimes the combinations of letters and numbers spell something interesting
> , these are viewed as the U.S. personalised plates and are sold from 
> person to person.
> The real interesting combinations are banned. Like  A55HOL etc...
> 

666 numbers are also unavailable now because bods tried blaming the DVLC,
who issue registration numbers, for any mishap that befell their posessed
vehicle. Is it the same elsewhere?
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________
  Ian Harvey, University College Swansea         Too old to rock'n'roll
  eeharvey@uk.ac.swan.pyr                              Too young to die
                              '79 GS750E
From: tjohnson@atcc5.prime.com (Tod J Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Commentary On "Stupid Car Drivers" Thread
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:42:25 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@atc1.UUCP (Tod J Johnson)
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Computervision, Bedford MA

Men, Woman, Children, People Nicknamed "Skip";

	In fairly recent times there have been many fascinating and
informative postings here in rec.motorcycles. I personally commend
all of you as a whole for your insightfulness and punctuation. I was
drawn however to one thread imparticular; "Stupid People". 

	Rather than go into the details of why a thread of this title
would attract my attention; let me rehash as quickly as possible the
subject matter. "Person on bike. Alleged stupid person in car looks at
person on bike. They race. Person on bike wins."

	I agree with the authors of all these posts that any human
being who wishes to, and commences to, racing another motor vehicle
on a public domain street; for absolutley no other reason than to 
accomodate their own lack of masculinity and self-worth; is in fact
a person worthy of the moniker "stupid". Thank-you all for demonstrating
this to us so that we may learn form your admittances of in fact your-
selves being "stupid" (not to mention admitting you question your very
own masculinity and self-worth). This takes guts in this day and age.
I'm glad to see you have learned the true defintion of "stupid" and
shared it with us.

All For One, And One For All;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol, Avoid Stupidity"
From: zyang@danskin.berkeley.edu (ZIJIANG YANG)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Accident Report!!!
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:31:10 GMT
Reply-To: zyang@danskin.berkeley.edu (ZIJIANG YANG)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: danskin.berkeley.edu

From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)

 >the biker who introduces himself by wiping out within llama-spitting distance
 >of me is probably the *last* person i'd ride pillion with.  not that i'd ever
 >ride pillion in the first place (sidecars excluded, if that's pillion (?)).

He didn't introduce himself by wiping out, it was a lot more than that.
USE some
of your IMAGINATION

 >or did you mean she rides while you stay home?  :-)

Nah, she isn't like you, she doesn't know how to ride a bike.


 Zijiang Yang              
"Try something more useful, babe, your are wasting your time."  
Motorcycle Madman         Honda Magna 86 700cc, Kawasaki 89 EX500 
Dod # 582                 zyang@kuhn.berkeley.edu     
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
Subject: Re: beginners luck
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:21:48 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
: 
: Karen reagins some composure and waits for the next cycle of the
: light.  It turns green.  She takes off with spirit, and tries to turn
: starting from takeoff.  As she put it "I was going too fast.  I leaned
: far enough, I just didn't TURN far enough.  Not enough push left."
: I suspect she's mis-evaluated the lean/turn interrelationship, but no
: matter for now.
: Her rear wheel hit the curb on the far side of the cross street (she
: _almost_ made the turn), and she high-sided.  Shin hit the curb on the
: Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG           | "Good men must not obey the laws too well"

Her comment is probably right on. She probably tried to steer, not countersteer,
and got confused and hesitated on pushing hard enough. Suggest to her that
she repeatedly mentally (and actually) rehearse countersteering. Just 
remembering it from the MSF course is not enough. Push left, go left. Push
right, go right. Over and over. It has to be instinctive. Before you reach
that point ( and surprisingly, even sometimes later on) you can consciously
know you should countersteer, but your body just won't do it .
------------------------------Edward Walsh----Hewlett-Packard Company-------
                              edw@boi.hp.com  Disk Memory Division, MS213
                              (208)323-2174   P.O. Box 39  Boise,Idaho 83707
                              FJ1200'89,XZ550RJ(Vision)'82,DoD#98
From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I didn't do it.
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:15:00 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <lapr0pINN3hg@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 13182@informix.com, dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd) writes:
>>In article <Bu885J.J0C@cup.hp.com> hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner) writes:
>>> J. Eric Townsend (jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov) wrote:
>>> : I deny any involvement in nude motorcycling.
>>> he's lying.
>>> film at 11.
>>I wasn't there, I don't know anything about this.
>>Besides, we're never doing it again.
>well as an Innocent Bystander (tm), i'd like to note that certain individuals,
>
>i'm feeling"
>
>squidliest maneuver:  nude wheelies

Not recomended for "shafties"



-- 
I hate the 3B2
The 3B2 can bite me.
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Advice wanted on defending yourself in court
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 6 Sep 1992 17:36:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <BD.92Sep6105725@fluent.UUCP>, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice
Dowaliby) wrote:
> 
> 
> In article <dbc-040992133728@b62003.student.cwru.edu> dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
> 
> >Nor does the fact that the local law enforcement wants to use 
> >traffic tickets for revenue enhancement mean that he should also 
> >have to contribute more funds to his (probably state mandated) 
> >insurance company's financial health.
> 
> If you're suggesting he was speeding as some sort of civil disobedience
> action then you might be able to make a case here.  The original
> post made me think he was merely speeding.
> 
I'm not.  I am suggesting that insurance companies raise rates depending
on how many speeding tickets you have, and that a speeding ticket on one's
driving record may or may not indicate an unsafe driver.  Now, I haven't
had a ticket in about 7 years, so I don't have a particularly recent burr
up
my butt about this.  But the idea that most (all?) communities use
artificially low speed limits as a form a revenue enhancement, and at the
same
time most states require you to buy insurance from a company that uses
(in part) how many of these additional taxes you have as a method of
determining how safe a driver you are pisses me off.

I speed all the time, but the last/first/only accident I've had was 3
months after my 16th birthday.  I think that provides a reasonable amount
of evidence that I am not a manifestly unsafe rider/driver.  So, if Officer
Bob decides
to ticket me one of these days, you can bet your ass I'll fight it.  I'd
be less inclined to do so, if I only had to pay the fine to the
town/whatever,
but I'll be damned if I'll suppliment the insurance company for my doing
something that is not unsafe.

> -- 
>    Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834      | DoD #207  AMA
#573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci. dept. | KotNML  /  KotB     
|
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get  | '81 CB750C          
|
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111               | '88 Bianchi Limited 
|
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: oil roads sign
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:45:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.000310.5024@serval.net.wsu.edu>,
	 bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes...
>Once I was motoring around the South Island in New Zealand (most beautiful
>country in the world) in a rental cage and came across a sign with the word
>"FORD" on it.  "Geee, what a strange way to advertise a car, out here in the 
>middle of no where." I thought to myself as I topped over a little rise.
>Came down the other side at about 65 only to find a stream crossing the
>the road and the road paved on the bottom of the stream.  
> 
>"OH SHIT, THAT KINDA ....", WOOOOSH.     
> 
	On some of the Outback roads in Oz (NSW anyway), I've come across
signs "HUMP".  Gee, you can do that at 105 mph?  :-)

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
"noematical -- a. Obs. rare;  Originating, or existing, in thought, or in the
 mind alone."	-- Compact Oxford Dictionary
From: slndw@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: last
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:49:09 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

A stretch of I-84 from southern Idaho into Utah has
the following signs:


Warning: High Wind Area


Severe Dust Storm Area
Do Not Stop On Roadway


WARNING: Deer Migration Area Next (x) Miles

Ooooo, boy it is a fun stretch of road after riding 
some 400 miles.  No distracting scenery, trees, water,
gas, exits, or much of anything.

This is also a road that is covered with drifing snow
most of the winter.  The winds make it nearly impossible
to keep clean.



-toot
DoD#3323
From: paul@blade (Paul Derks)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Engine broke BMW R80GS help please!
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:08:23 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi,

On the way back from Spain to Holland approximately 200km for Paris
the engine of my 1989 BMW R80GS broke down.
I was doing 130km/h on the highway when I heard a mettalic rattle
in the right cylinder and the power was gone, the engine kept
running on the other cylinder. When I unscrewed the spark plug it was
smashed to pieces (central electrode rammed in). I tried starting the
engine and oil came out of the spark plug hole. I removed the valve
cover and the exhaust valve had no play. I had to adjust the valve
bolt some 5 mm before I had some play on the valve.

I still have gaurantee on the bike so I dont't want to take it apart.
I think the stem of the valve may be broken. Can anyone shed some light
on this. The bike ran perfect for the entire vacation (5000km) and
total mileage was 38000km when the engine broke down.

If the cylinder is scratched can it be bored or is this impossible
because the cylinders are coated. If it is possible can it be done
on one side?


This has certainly lowered my opinion of BMW. I have driven Japanese bikes
for 8 years (and on long holidays) and I have never had any problem
(The bikes were much older to). I have had the BMW for 2.5 months now
and I am seriously disappointed.

Thanks in advance
Paul Derks
paul@stack.urc.tue.nl

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Chain Problem Update
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:41:24 GMT

A few days ago I posted a problem about the noise
my once loose chain was making after I tightened it
(and before).  I checked the sprockets and the rear one
had many worn down and broken teeth.  I ordered a new
rear sprocket and chain from Competition (we will see if
I get it).  Anyway, I thought the front sprocket should
have been the one to wear first.  It looks fine to me.

After putting the chain back on (just a little looser than
I had it before), the bike sounds much better.  When I 
rotate the rear wheel, I still hear the chain clunking
as it leaves the rear sprocket.  While riding the bike,
however, it sounds great.  If I hadn't looked at the
sprocket, I wouldn't have known there was any problem.  Should
I cancel the order for the chain and rear sprocket?  If I don't,
cancel the order but keep the chain and sprocket for the next time
I need a new chain, should I go ahead and order a front sprocket 
to be safe.  All suggestions are appreciated (except vulgar ones).

Jack Waters II

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Make no Mistake, I am the Red Fishnet.         ~
~                                DoD#1919        ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Watch out
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:22:29 GMT
	<3873@cvbnetPrime.COM>
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com's message of 14 Sep 92 17:06:07 GMT

>>>>> On 14 Sep 92 17:06:07 GMT, rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) said:
Rich> ANYONE that moves into an intersection around this neck of the woods
Rich> without taking a deep breath and looking both ways must have suicidal
Rich> tendencies.
...
Rich> 	LOOK TWICE - SAVE YOUR OWN LIFE!

Now the DMV is being told to recommend "look left, look right, look
left again".  I wouldn't be surprised to find this on the license exam
in the near future.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>      "Have you hugged the curves today?"
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.              MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: key fobs
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:15:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20232
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network


I hate to volunteer him for yet another task, but YEAH!  I'd take
several of them.  

(what happened since the DoD *pin*?  I had a long net.absence and I'd
 like to catch up on some merch...)

Clint Flecken-Stimpy
 __________________________________________________________________________
 Clint Fleckenstein   <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu> <fleckens@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
 Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5 / KQCD TV 7              .5k EX Pilot  
 My login and conduct don't belong to Meyer Broadcasting.         DoD #5150
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Chain Problem Update
Date: 10 Sep 1992 00:04:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Sep9.031557.9028@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>In article <1992Sep5.044124.26338@ncsu.edu> jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
>>
>> [tale of near nead chain and sprockets]
>
>If it is not a joke and you are serious then yes, continue with your
>plans to replace the chain and the sprockets.
>
>Would someone with experience, a racer perhaps, tell what can 
>happen if a chain lets loose at speed.

 So, what, Bill? I'm supposed to clue everyone in on what
 it is to be an idiot with chains?

 :->

 I broke a chain last year at Phoenix. I had bought a 520 non o-ring
 race chain for my 400. Unbeknownst to me, it was designed for
 wimpy little 2-stroke dirt bikes putting out a max of 35hp.
 Not my FZR400 putting out about 57-58 horsies. Needless to say,
 it lasted about 20 laps before snapping.

 Destroyed rear sprocket, water pump, engine cases, clutch pushrod.
 Total cost of repair ~$1000. 

 I saved $30 on the chain.


 It should be pointed out that you have several possible results
 of a chain going:

     1) chain ties up rear wheel and you most likely bail,
     2) chain destroys engine cases, dumping oil everywhere
        but comes free leaving you with damaged motor, you bail
     3) chain doesn't come free, locks up countershaft sprocket,
        destroying transmission and motor, you bail
     4) chain comes off, not damaging anything (you _wish_)




 "not so cheap anymore" Stef
--
Stefan Fielding-Isaacs         me: (415) 599-4876  me at them: (415) 688-9400  
dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting technical writing firm) 
AMA/CCS #5, Regional Lightweight Supersport, Superbike, Grand Prix Champion
mail:  race-request@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM to join motorcycle roadracing list
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: key fobs
Date: 6 Sep 92 02:50:53 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <SHAFER.92Sep4112237@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov> shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes:
>On 4 Sep 92 09:26:31 PDT, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) said:
>
>bob> In article <9209041535.AA17918@nettlerash.berkeley.edu>, XP2729@LSUVM.BITNET (Terry Baldridge) writes:
>bob> this is the *first* dod item that i'm willing to come out in public 
>bob> and say *YES*.  (those letters were in caps, btw).
>
I'd actively like one. Having been fobless (never saw one I didn't think
was dumb) for most of my life, (don't get this confused with jobless, an
affliction also present, although only recently and temporarily) I would
say DoD fobs would be A Good Thing (tm).

jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
*   (insert new bike here)   | Nothing hurts like the loss one feels when   *
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | they lose their first love, get fired from   * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | their first job, or sell their first bike.   *