From: seb@stein.u.washington.edu (-s e b a s t i a n-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Taiwan vs Mainland To The Extreme
Date: 12 Dec 92 12:29:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec12.122934.26722
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

seb@u.washington wrote this sometime ago:
>>>>	again, all i want to say is: most people from mainland still dress
>>>>	like homeless, act like homeless, and talk and write on the net
>>>>	like homeless. 
>>	sorry about my harsh language but what i should've said in my
>>	statement was: some people from mainland, not most people.
>>		       ^^^^			      ^^^^

zhang wrote this:
>to have learnt something from the reactions to your post. Next time,
>before you send such flamoutary material againist a large group into the
>public, think twice. Check the parity on your nasty bits. It will do you
>some good.

	hey, i will never ever regret posting such 'explicit' materials
	on the net against a huge # of people. i'm sure that some people
	still agree with what i have to say. if it happens that more 
	people like u are reading this newsgroup -- tough, buddy.
	i post whatever i want. but the point is that i expressed what
	i had to say as clearly as possible -- as emotional as possible
	regardless who or what it will offend.

seb wrote:
>>	i was attacking directly against those who look at the taiwanese
>>	as rich bums spending all they want and making people from
>>	mainland look not as 'good'. 
zhang wrote:
>   I don't know who these people you are talking about. Or whether they
>are significant enough to deserve your attention. If it was some sort of
>envy you were trying to address, that surely was not the way to do it. It
>was just a very bad example of cheap show off.

	no, not cheapy show off. if i want to attack those mainland
	scums who think they can dominate it all, i will do it as
	harsh i can no matter what it takes. i'm also being reasonable.

seb wrote:
>>	oh, by the way, u talked about how taiwan was humiliated by
>>	japan in the earlier century, to tell u the truth, i have
>>	nothing against japan, not a thing. so what? it was part of
>>	the ignorant past, who cares! 
zhang wrote:
>Taiwanese. But I do have a word of advice for you, it is part of your
>history. Although it might not be something you would like to talk
>about, you still have to accept it. Don't try to deny it in one form or
>another. (Pretending it does not exist.) 

	are u kidding me...'something i would not like to talk about...'?
	hahaha....'part of my history'?
	to tell u the truth, i really don't consider my history until
	i was born. who cares what taiwan did or was conquered or was
	divided or how many were slaughtered years ago?
	sorry, dude, i don't care for history and it's not becuase
	i don't want to talk about it. 		       ^^^
	because i have no feeling for what japan or whoever did to
	taiwan in the past. sure, it's nice to know the history, but
	it doesn't do u any good anyways.
	(i'll even marry a japanese for crying out loud.)

>   I have stated in one of my other posts along the same thread that I
>myself have nothing againist the Japanese people either. I am very
>interested in their contemporary and past culture. I studied Japanese
>right up to intermediate level in my early teens. Managed to forget all
>of them though. :) In flipping through some up market magazines from
>Taiwan, I found the coverage on Japan interesting and quite informative.
>It provides a rather fresh and indepth angel different from the popular
>media in general in the west. 
>   Let me borrow a phrase from Heng-Hsin Liao of AT&T, let's work hard
>for Taiwan and China.

	and at last, i finally agree w/ u on the statement above :) 


				/seb@u.washington.edu