HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter)
Subject: Re: Winter is HERE!
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:27:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep22.173702.4201@raven.alaska.edu> randy@raven.alaska.edu (Randy Hayman) writes:
>Now with about 2 feet of snow on the ground, I think winter is here, not
>merely teasing us.
>
>Last weekend, I got out for a little bit if riding, and ahhhh did it
>feel good.  Temps in the 
>single digits this morn on my way to work, but get to 20s and low 30s in
>the afternoon.
>
>more later...

According to the news reports, there was snow in the NE states Wednesday, setting
the record for the earliest snow ever in several spots in Maine and Vermont.
Anyone up there want to comment?

And although that seems to bode well for us "easterners", temperatures in Idaho
were near *90* f, setting records at the *opposite* extreme!

I've not been listening to shortwave lately so I'm not sure what's happening in
other places around the globe - is winter starting early anywhere other than Alaska
and NE USA?

>
>Randy
>sxrmh1@orca.alaska.edu


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Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles,rec.travel
From: chuck@col.hp.com (Chuck Rice)
Subject: Re: Snowmobiling in Yellowstone
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:32:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

kurt@think.com (Kurt Thearling) writes:
> 
> 	2) What is snowmobiling like in Yellowstone?  Can you get to the
> 	   geisers?  How rough is the riding (I've been riding since 1971
> 	   but some friends who will be coming don't have much experience)?
> 
The riding in the park is all beginner level, 45 MPH limits on groomed
trails. You can go anyplace on a snowmobile that you can drive in a car.
In my opinion, this is a trip every snowmobiler should do at least once.
The scenery is fantastic, lots of wildlife. There is an old landing strip
at the edge of West Yellowstone that is groomed in case you want to see
how good your sled runs. I think you can find a drag race 24 hours a day.
Fun stuff, some times there are 20 or 30 sleds coming off the line at the 
same time. If you want more of a challenge just head any direction but
the park. Lots of steep hills to climb and open fields to play in.

By the way, 45 MPH is plenty fast enough in the park. I thought it was 
relly going to be a drag but it's so pretty most of the time we were going
slower.

Have fun.
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
From: shawna@bnr.ca (Shawna Gilmour 1588594)
Subject: Re: Black Magic Catalog
Organization: bnr
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:15:49 GMT

We recieved our catalog in the mail a couple of weeks ago,
and we were at the New York State Grass Drags last weekend
and the Black Magic trailer was there and they were selling
the catalogs

Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles,rec.travel
From: steve@ncrsna.stpaul.ncr.com (Steven Engelhardt)
Subject: Re: Snowmobiling in Yellowstone
Organization: NCR NPG StPaul MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:15:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.143203.26241@col.hp.com> chuck@col.hp.com (Chuck Rice) writes:

>kurt@think.com (Kurt Thearling) writes:
>> 
>>      2) What is snowmobiling like in Yellowstone?  Can you get to the
>>         geisers?  How rough is the riding (I've been riding since 1971
>>         but some friends who will be coming don't have much experience)?
>> 
>The riding in the park is all beginner level, 45 MPH limits on groomed
>trails. You can go anyplace on a snowmobile that you can drive in a car.

Are you saying it is open to everyone?  I thought that only certain 
outfitters were allowed in the park.

Steven Engelhardt    NCR Comten         steven.engelhardt@stpaul.ncr.com
SNA Product Services, MS: S015               steve@ncrsna.stpaul.ncr.com
2700 Snelling Ave. N.  StPaul, MN 55113     612-638-7223   NCR-652-7223
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From: v088j4k4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MAIL EXCLUSIVELY FROM..CHET)
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
Subject: Address for service manual
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

of snowmobile from about 1955 to the present, the Intertec Corporation has
a manual that covers all independant manufactures past and present in one
complete service manual. It costs about $20 and is very helpful. Here is the
address:
			Intertec Publishing Corporation
			P.O. Box 12901
			Overland Park, KS 66212

	Ask for the Snowmobile Service Manual (10th edition or newer).
I hope this will help out anyone that is trying to get some information
on working on sleds, especially older ones.

					
					Jon Chetwynd 
						SUNY-Buffalo

		* 
	      *   *
	    *   *   * - Think Snow!!!
	      *   *
                *
From: lmcansi@noah.ericsson.se (Andrew Silver)
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
Subject: Howdy!
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:16:08 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

I'm back and have read your posts!  I guess I'll 
lower the oil:gas ratio like y'all recommend and 
deal with a fouled plug rather than a seized
engine.

My father and I have been really working on the
sled.  We've been welding the frame and fixing the
cover and reupholstering the seat - this week.
Next week, we start on the track and bogey wheels.

As I recently told Jon, I picked up the most recent
issue of Moto/Bateau/Motoneige Hebdo (motorcycle/
boat/snomobile) and I was really pleased to see
that there are quite a few old Bombardiers for sale
in good condition, and quite cheap!  Parts seem
relatively accessible too.  So I'm a goin' shoppin'
for a used track next week!

But the best advertisement in the Hebdo was as follows:

    Exchange:  1 fur coat size 10, 1 savage cat
               1 coyote, 1 shaven sheep  for
               Bombardier Elan or Honda 4 wheel.

Despite my intense desires to own the coyote, I
decided not to sell my Elan.  Go figure.


Quicksilver!  (Andrew)
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
From: kurt@think.com (Kurt Thearling)
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles,rec.travel
Subject: Snowmobiling in Yellowstone
Date: 29 Sep 1992 21:18:53 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: zetes.think.com


Can anyone tell me about snowmobiling in Yellowstone?  There's a company
called "Yellowstone Adventures" that does package deals which includes
machine rental, clothing, and lodging in West Yellowstone.   The packages
look like a good deal but I still have a couple questions:

	1) Has anyone had any experience (postive or negative) with 
	   "Yellowstone Adventures?"

	2) What is snowmobiling like in Yellowstone?  Can you get to the
	   geisers?  How rough is the riding (I've been riding since 1971
	   but some friends who will be coming don't have much experience)?

Thanks!

- kurt



Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
From: nedwie@barh1a.its.rpi.edu (Erik Jason Nedwidek)
Subject: Snow Already!
Reply-To: nedwie@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 05:14:21 GMT

	Stop teasing the rest of us with stories of two feet of snow.  Here in New York state we have over a month and half to wait before we can pull out the sleds and hit the trails.  Though I must admit it would be nice to get 7-8 months of snowmobiling weather.
					-Erik
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From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Subject: Re: Why do people read opinion journals?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Independence
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:58:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.082805.43573@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes...
>comes from a source openly favoring that viewpoint?  We all know the
>best arguments are those conceded by your opponents; second-best are


I don't think "we all know" the origin of the best arguments.
Most people come to a political viewpoint because they
"inherited" it from their parents...or because they're
=rebelling= against that very viewpoint. In either case, it's an
emotional thing, supported by only the vaguest notion of the
facts and logic behind it. Therefore, they don't immediately
perceive the need for the =best= arguments for their position;
they want =arguments= period. That is, they want their position
=articulated= in a trustworthy manner. The safest source of
opinion for this is a favorable source. 
Xref: sparky alt.news-media:1435 alt.politics.clinton:8316
From: karlr@think.com (Karl Rotstan)
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: The Insane Rep. Dornan...
Date: 4 Oct 1992 05:24:27 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: custard.think.com

In article <92277.002500QAA@psuvm.psu.edu> QAA@psuvm.psu.edu (Tim Bieling) writes:
>I'm surprised that there hasn't been much comment about the Rep. Dornan
>(or is it Dorman?:) lately.  It's 12:30 EST and that asshole is still
>blowing hot air about Clinton.  (C-SPAN is still running live on the
>house)
{stuff deleted}

Nevertheless, I do find it interesting to discover that Clinton was hanging
out in MOSCOW in January 1970 at the height of the Vietnam war.  I wonder
what excuse we'll hear about this one, if any...  I also wonder just why
the media hasn't followed this up, since Dornan's been doing this for 8
nights now and is going to keep on doing so for the rest of the campaign.
karl...

Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.politics.clinton
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: The Insane Rep. Dornan...
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:23:11 GMT


In article <1992Oct5.130527.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>     It's difficult to attribute the title of "student" to Clinton
>in his second year, since he really didn't show up for class on
>a regular basis (if at all), he did not take the exams, and did not
>graduate.

I never showed up to, say, Number Theory on a regular basis, if at all.


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Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.politics.clinton
From: mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao)
Subject: Re: The Insane Rep. Dornan...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:34:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.205324.17955@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:
>
>Perhaps if the US and USSR were not at one of the iciest points in the
>cold war it would appear that this was twisted reasoning.  Indeed,
>questions DO need to be asked about WHY Willy was in the USSR then and
>just exactly WHAT was he up to?  Anything else is just idle speculation
>or wishful thinking.
>
>All Dornan was doing was bringing the matter to light so that it could
>be properly scrutinized by the press and the public.  Why fear disclosure
>of the facts in this matter?  Why pooh-pooh it as something routine before
>the matter is properly examined?
>
>COVER UP!!!!!!
>
>--
>"Yes, he really said that!"

 
    
     Come on,    there are more important things to examine, what about the
health of the economy, the health of the citizens of this country...
A student went to Moscow, so what ?  Are the Republicans so desperate 
they are actually hoping to find Clinton was actually recruited by the KGB ?
 
    Some of the things the Republicans are doing, from Bush on down , are 
really turning off a lot of people. Well, to put it more forcefully, they
are making people sick of them.  
  
    Most Americans are not as stupid as these Republicans think, or shall
we say, most Americans are not as stupid as these "Republicans". 
 

Xref: sparky alt.news-media:1437 alt.politics.clinton:8392 alt.conspiracy:10958
Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 15:44:28 EDT
From: Norman St. John Polevaulter <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.politics.clinton,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: The Insane Rep. Dornan...

In article <1alv6bINNr4u@early-bird.think.com>, karlr@think.com (Karl Rotstan)
says:
>In article <92277.002500QAA@psuvm.psu.edu> QAA@psuvm.psu.edu (Tim Bieling)
>writes:
>Nevertheless, I do find it interesting to discover that Clinton was hanging
>out in MOSCOW in January 1970 at the height of the Vietnam war.  I wonder
>what excuse we'll hear about this one, if any...

Well, he's a Communist. Once elected, he will dissolve the Congress, ban
all private business, and rule by fiat with the Central Committee. Gore
will be out the window, replaced with Gorbachev (see, the names are similar
so you won't notice the switch.)

Oh, didn't you know already?

Also, I hear that in his spare time Clinton goes around kicking dogs
and stealing lollipops from small children.

Cross-posted to alt.conspiracy, which is where stuff like Dornan's ravings
REALLY belongs.

                  "Two hundredth verse, same as the first!"
[Your blood pressure just went up.]        Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
DISCLAIMER: If PSU knew I had opinions they'd probably try to charge me for it.
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.politics.clinton
From: mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao)
Subject: Re: The Insane Rep. Dornan...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:52:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.130527.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.135952.26362@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave) writes:
>> In article <BvMFyy.IF8@well.sf.ca.us>, casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
>>> 
>>> I understand that such educational exchanges were routine for Oxford
>>> students.
>   ^^^^^^^^  
>> 
>> They were. This is another lame attempt to make Clinton look bad using
>> twisted reasoning.
>> 
>     It's difficult to attribute the title of "student" to Clinton
>in his second year, since he really didn't show up for class on
>a regular basis (if at all), he did not take the exams, and did not
>graduate.
>
>     C. Perttunen

 
      As if you were in the class.  Did you take the seat Clinton usually sit ?
 
      Also, Oxford must be an awful easy school to attend.
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Subject: Re: Conservative bias example
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:10:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep21.235357.535@techbook.com> gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane) writes:
>john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore) writes:
>
>B
>>]
>>]Newsmagazines are the same way. Some, like U.S.News and World Report, seem
>>]to report most things fairly straight. Time, on the other hand, is
>>]EXTREMELY biased toward the "left". 
>
>>Don't forget Newsweek... also very biased towards the left.
>
>Folks, I think we've entered the Twilight Zone here.  Somehow, we've
>passed through Alice's mirror and have emerged on the other side where
>Time and Newsweek are run by leftists and The Nation, no doubt, is run
>by William Buckley.  Bizarre.
>
	It does, however, neatly demonstrate that when rightists complain of
a "left-wing bias" in the media what they're *really* complaining about is
the lack of a significant *right-wing* bias.  U.S. News and World Report is
now and has been (for as long as I can remember) a magazine of rightist
opinion and news analysis.  Now I have no problem with this; U.S. News has
never pretneded to be anything else, as far as I can tell.  What's amusing
is that the other two posters apparently regard reportage with a rightist
slant as "objective".  It therefore follows, of course, that Time and Newsweek
are "leftist".
	Along with most of the rest of the country.....>:-)>
	And before you jump down my throat, folks, let me reiterate my
conviction that complaints of rightist bias from left-wing organizations such
as F.A.I.R. are of an analogous nature.  I think you'll find that they regard
Time and Newsweek as "conservative".
>Jeff Frane
>
>-- 
>gummitch@techbook.COM  Public Access UNIX at (503) 220-0636 (1200/2400) 
Chuck
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Xref: sparky alt.news-media:1464 alt.politics.clinton:8710 alt.politics.bush:7904
From: vsg001@acad.drake.edu
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: The Insane Rep. Dornan...
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:29:37 GMT
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA

In article <1992Oct6.165228.4298@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao) writes:
>    Well, if you are not satisfied with my previous answer, let me make it
> easier for you and maybe some others, 
>  
>    Realisticly, we have to choose eith Bush or Clinton. 
>    
>    Bush is already proven not up to the job.
ell, yes and no. If you are arguing reasonable doubt, then you are missing
elements to your case. The republicans claim that Bush has had an argumentitive
Congress, that has not even tried to do what the president has proposed. True?
Well, all we have to do is check Congressional records. We find that there is
some credence to Bush's plight, though that is not the issue at hand. So, using
your logic, we have two "maybe no's".
     
>    Clinton is an unknown as you feared. Since Bush is a no, Clinton is a 
>    maybe no, only logical answer is for Clinton.

See above. But now we can cast considerable doubt on Clinton's past. Look at
Arkansas. Clinton has raised taxes and fees 128 times-something that the
Democrats now acknowledge. Arkansas has unemployment rates higher than the
national average. Growth in manufactoring was cut in half by Clinton (Source US
bureau of the Census) Arkansas ranks 47th in per capita personal income.
Arkansas raks dead last in the South in manufac. wages for durable goods. There
is a lot more, but I think you get the point. Considering his past performance,
much longer than that of Bush's, do we really want this time-bomb in office
during a fargile economy? Clinton a "logical" answer? I'm not so sure.

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Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush
From: mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao)
Subject: Re: The Insane Rep. Dornan...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:52:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.162409.20615@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:
>In <1992Oct6.015255.24699@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Oct5.210417.18366@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:
>
>>>which one would face having once been admitted?  What's Slick Willy to do once
>>>he finds the Oval Office beyond his desires or capabilities?
>
> 
>>   Excellent question !
> 
>>   I'll answer that by asking,
> 
>>   What are we voters to do after we already found the Oval Office is indeed 
>>beyond GHWB's desire and capabilities ? 
>
>I am no Bush apologist and congratulations on successfully evading the
>question.  You don't determine the opponent's credentials by blasting the
>incumbent.
>--
 
   Well, if you are not satisfied with my previous answer, let me make it
easier for you and maybe some others, 
 
   Realisticly, we have to choose eith Bush or Clinton. 
   
   Bush is already proven not up to the job.
   
   Clinton is an unknown as you feared. Since Bush is a no, Clinton is a 
   maybe no, only logical answer is for Clinton.
   
   And if later he finds the office is beyond his capabilities, we'll elect
   another one who maybe is another no. 4 years later, if this country still
   has the same Constitution.
 
   This is how American politics works. (well, this is how everything works,
   you throw out the known bad one and try the best that is available)
 
   Is this clear enough ?
From: hfrederick@igc.apc.org (Howard Frederick)
Newsgroups: alt.news-media
Subject: Pacifica*Banking Scandal*Oct 1 Sate
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:52:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1638300009:000:2094
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hfrederick    Sep 28 20:52:00 1992


From: Howard Frederick <hfrederick>
Subject: Pacifica*Banking Scandal*Oct 1 Satel

From wbai Sun Sep 27 20:09:49 1992
Subject: collapse of banking radio special

                   NEW YORK RADIO STATION WBAI 
              TO PRESENT THREE HOUR BANKING EXPOSE: 

                   'THE COLLAPSE OF BANKING.'

Pacifica's WBAI in New York continues its tradition of producing 
ground-breaking investigative radio journalism with this three-
hour documentary in time for the presidential elections, "The Collapse of 
Banking." 

Produced by WBAI Program Director, Andrew Phillips, coproduced and reported 
by Dennis Bernstein, the program will be available on the NPR satellite 
Thursday, October 1st, channel 6 - 1300-1559 EST and on tape from Pacifica 
Program Service. 1-800-735 0230.  Encourage your public radio stations to 
carry this program.

The program includes an extensive interview with author Pete Bruton whose 
new book: "The Mafia, CIA and George Bush" will be released before the 
elections - available through SPI Books, Shapolsky 212 633 2022.  

Bruton received a six-figure advance for this book from Simon and Schuster 
who then refused to print it.  Now it will be published by Shapolsky, 
William Greider, "Who Will Tell the People," Tim Anderson, "National Law 
Journal" and Bush cabinet insider, Stephen Pizzo, ""Inside Job: The Looting 
of America's Savings and Loans," Ed Gray former head Federal Home Loan Bank 
Board,.  Martin Maher Wall Street advisor and author more than finance 20 
books and others, BCCI , the S&L collapse, "Iraqgate," the junk bond 
schemes of Michael Milken, the CIA and the Mafia all contribute to this 
impending collapse. Small banks will fail first and the FDIC has 
insufficient resources to cover the losses.  Meanwhile the dollar continues 
to weaken against the Deutschmark and Yen and world recession deepens.

This series is part of WBAI's ongoing commitment to bring the best of 
progressive investigative radio reporting to the widest possible
audience.

Contact: Andrew Phillips, Valerie Van Isler
212. 279 0707
718. 398 21744
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