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From: PKJAMES@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Getting off Xanax
    <1992Dec09.144105.20089@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> <1992Dec9.231134.6495@sr.com> 
    <1992Dec10.224613.0457875@locus.com> <jimkent.724136053@well.sf.ca.us> 
    <1992Dec12.190857.7370@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
Organization: University of Kentucky
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:38:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.190857.7370@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
 
>
>
>What advantages does xanax have over valium?
>
>A relative got a perscription for xanex for anxiety control,
>and as I've heard that it's shorter half life make tapering
>down harder than with valium, I wondered why it would be
>prefered by a doctor over valium.
>
>Any clues?
>
>JD
 
 
I'm not a doctor but have had experience over the years with many
benzodiazepines and earlier with other tranquilizing medications such as
barbiturates.  I don't currently take Xanax but on occasion will, if I'm
going through a great deal of stress.  For that reason, my choice would
be Xanax for those times, especially because it does have such a short
half life.  If you find that you're not in need of it 4 hours later,
it's begun to wear off.  With Valium and other longer acting
benzodiazepines you've got to keep feeling the effects beyond the point
when you actually need it.  I do think it must be monitored carefully.
For some reason it seems that short acting drugs produce very quick
dependence.  Maybe that's because the body eliminates it so quickly it
doesn't have time to adjust.  I know that when I first took Xanax, I
took it 4 times a day 1mg.  After about 2 weeks I was feeling relaxed
and thought I don't need this any more and abruptly  stopped.  I went up
the walls before realizing that I shouldn't have stopped that quickly
after even just 2 weeks.  It's short acting and I guess that's another
reason doctors like it-it's easier-quicker to titrate.  It's also
thought to help with anxiety-depression.  So for a depressed person who
has anxiety it's good.  Of course as with all things the biggest claim
it has is that it's "new and improved' and still under patent protection
so it's a big money maker.
PAUL JAMES   (PKJAMES@UKCC.UKY.EDU)
From: fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Physician's Incomes
Keywords: income
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:25:29 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester

In article <wg=rh1q@lynx.unm.edu> bhjelle@carina.unm.edu writes:
>In article <BzBrD5.D5x@news.cso.uiuc.edu> magdi@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Magdi N Azer) writes:
>>While I agree with Peggy's general comments, that same logic should mean
>>that Ph.D's should get even more than MD's because we go to scho
>>achool 6 to 7 years post B.S or B.A.  Unfortunately, this isn't the case
...
>Sure, PhDs should make lots of money but supply-and-demand
>dictate wages, not some academic calculation of peoples'
>true worth.
>
>Among the recourses available for many PhDs is the right to
>go to medical school - however, PhDs, given that choice, opted
>to do otherwise. That is fine, but in many cases, lower wages
>are the result.

There are several factors that separate Ph.D.'s from M.D.'s:

1) In general, Ph.D.'s do not pay for their educations; taxpayers do.
On the other hand, M.D.'s pay for medical school, accumulating a
considerable debt while they do so.  They then work for four to seven
years at a residency that pays a bare living wage; generally, they
borrow money to maintain a middle-class lifestyle while doing this.
(I live in the neighborhood favored by residents in Rochester; about
half of my neighbors are doing this.)  The result is that doctors
end up with a crushing debt burden at the start of their careers.
I am all in favor of eliminating this burden.

2) Having lived one, and observed the other at close hand, I prefer
the lifestyle of a Ph.D. very much, thank you.  I don't think I'd
have any trouble at all getting through med school, if they would
take someone my age; but I can do without the ulcers of a general
medical or surgical practice.

3) However, if I could be guaranteed one of the cushier specialties,
I'd jump at the chance.  The trouble is that the practitioners of those
specialties have erected formidable barriers to entry.  For example,
very few cardio-thoracic surgeons ever take on fellows.  Those that
do take them one at a time for two or three years of training.  The
most relaxed guy in my neighborhood is my back-door neighbor, a c-t
fellow.  At one of his fairly frequent barbecues, he explained over beer
that he thought that he wouldn't work as hard as he could, but would
spend a good bit of time with his family and settle for 250-300k/annum.

-- 
Mark A. Fulk			University of Rochester
Computer Science Department	fulk@cs.rochester.edu
From: sdavis@khan.ColoSpgs.NCR.COM (Susan Davis)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Hauffmans/Hoffmans?? Disease??
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:46:42 GMT
Reply-To: sdavis@khan.ColoSpgs.NCR.COM (Susan Davis)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division


Can anybody tell me anything about Hoffmans (sp?) disease?  A co-workers
newborn (8 weeks old) was just diagnosed with this and given about 10
months to live.  I have heard that it is a degeneration of the nerves
connecting the spine to the brain.  

Please reply via email because I don't read this group often.

Thanks,

Susan
(susan.davis@ColoSpgs.NCR.COM)
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From: jslm_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jonathan Schulman)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: osteophytes
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:48:31 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

I was told that my grandfather had taken some kind of test with either a dye
or radiation marker that went to cancer or arthritis. It went to a spot, but
the only way to find out what it was, was with an X-ray. The doctor told
him it was either arthritis or an osterophyte (sp?). It came out to be 
arthrities, but what is an osteophyte?
Thanks.
From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: What is Klonopin?
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:53:38 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

[reply to sbishop@desire.wright.edu,]
 
>Has anyone ever heard of proscribing Klonopin for 'restless leg
>syndrome'?  My pulmonary specialist wants me to take this.  I tried it
>for one day, was incredibly sleepy the next day, so cut doseage down to
>1/4 tablet at bedtime.  I'm still taking it occasionally, have no info
>on what this stuff is and what it does.
 
Clonazepam (Klonopin) is a benzodiazepine which works pretty well for
restless leg syndrome, as well as a number of other movement disorders.
If what he gave you is too much, and particularly if a lower dose works
well, call your doctor's office and report this.  It is available in
several sizes.  He can probably prescribe a smaller one for you.  I'm
sure he will want you to be on the lowest dose that relieves your
symptoms.  You may also find that both the sedative and beneficial
effects decrease in time and a higher dose will be necessary.

David Nye
nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu
From: dcoder@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: NEW wonderpill! (was: Re: Bananas vs. PowerBars)
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:21:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec17.222144.13203
Reply-To: dcoder@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington

In article <johnr.724567878@pongo.kowari.cpsg.com.au> johnr@bohra.cpg.oz.au  
(John Reid) writes:
]young@serum.kodak.com (Rich Young) writes:
]
]>In article <1992Dec15.155209.13238@polaris.utu.fi> eepee@polaris.utu.fi  
(Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki) writes:
]
]>[...]
]
]>>The new MIX-VIT (tm) is made up of a sodium chloride heart surrounded by
]>>a layer of glucose. All ingredients are 100% NATURAL with NO PRESERVATIVES
]>>added. Five tablets daily of MIX-VIT (tm) will help you improve your diet!
]
[parts deleted for breveity]

Ever since I started taking MIX-VIT (tm) (supplemented with Barley Green and  
small amounts of milk freely donated by free-range virgin goats who are  
humanely fed a strictly vegetarian diet of organically grown foods) I haven't  
had a single cold, my bad cholesterol levels have dropped, signs of bone loss  
have reversed, my libido has increased, and my whites are whiter and my colors  
are brighter. An added benefit has been realized by feeding some to my  
neighbor's cat. I've noticed that the cat's aura is much cleaner now. (This is  
similar to effects seen after the cat would sleep in the orgone chamber built  
to the exact proportions of the Great Pyramid at Cheops.)

The Wizard Works.
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition,rec.bicycles.misc
From: arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca (Adrian Pepper)
Subject: Re: NEW wonderpill! (was: Re: Bananas vs. PowerBars)
Organization: University of Waterloo Math Faculty Computing Facility, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:12:58 GMT

In article <mhulsey-161292161807@fatrat.fcs.uga.edu> mhulsey@hestia.fcs.uga.edu (Martin Hulsey) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.155209.13238@polaris.utu.fi>, eepee@polaris.utu.fi
>(Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki) wrote:
>> 
[...]
>
>> 
>> SCIENTIFIC FACTS:
>> 
>> It is a well accepted fact among scientists and doctors that SODIUM and
>> CHLORIDE play an important role in cardiovascular disease, especially
>> high blood pressure. Both sodium and chloride are ESSENTIAL in maintaining
>> electrochemical homeostasis in the human body.
>
>There is absolutely no evidence that one need take supplements of either. 
>In fact, most people eat too much salt already.

Was it not common up until about the 1950's for athletes to take "salt
pills"?  Were these usually sodium chloride, or a mixture of various
other salts?  A sugar coating would make a relatively benign container
for this.  When I first saw the article, I assumed it might have been
gleaned from a very old issue of some medical or sports journal, but
apparently, according to the original poster, it is recent satire.

Adrian Pepper.
arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: bible@iastate.edu (Anthony E Bible)
Subject: Re: NEW wonderpill! (was: Re: Bananas vs. PowerBars)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:01:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.222144.13203@u.washington.edu> dcoder@u.washington.edu writes:
>In article <johnr.724567878@pongo.kowari.cpsg.com.au> johnr@bohra.cpg.oz.au  
>(John Reid) writes:
>]young@serum.kodak.com (Rich Young) writes:
>]
>]>In article <1992Dec15.155209.13238@polaris.utu.fi> eepee@polaris.utu.fi  
>(Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki) writes:
>]
>]>[...]
>]
>]>>The new MIX-VIT (tm) is made up of a sodium chloride heart surrounded by
>]>>a layer of glucose. All ingredients are 100% NATURAL with NO PRESERVATIVES
>]>>added. Five tablets daily of MIX-VIT (tm) will help you improve your diet!
>]
>[parts deleted for breveity]
>
>Ever since I started taking MIX-VIT (tm) (supplemented with Barley Green and  
>small amounts of milk freely donated by free-range virgin goats who are  
>humanely fed a strictly vegetarian diet of organically grown foods) I haven't  
>had a single cold, my bad cholesterol levels have dropped, signs of bone loss  
>have reversed, my libido has increased, and my whites are whiter and my colors  
>are brighter. An added benefit has been realized by feeding some to my  
>neighbor's cat. I've noticed that the cat's aura is much cleaner now. (This is  
>similar to effects seen after the cat would sleep in the orgone chamber built  
>to the exact proportions of the Great Pyramid at Cheops.)
>
>The Wizard Works.

	Well FINALLY!  A well reasoned post that makes sense.

Regards,
tony
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Kidney Stones
From: <RBRCSA@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:09:30 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

Can anyone recommend any literature on eating to avoid kidney stone growth?
Is hard water a contributor?
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Subject: RE: Calcium/Magnesium
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:06:17 GMT

In a previous article, silver@fraser.sfu.ca (Craig Silver) wrote:
> 
>If you take calcium supliments, the Ca/Mg ratio of 2:1 is definately
>what I was taught.  This is especially important if you want to
>maintain proper levels of calcium because it is magnesium that helps
>to prevent calcium loss.
> 

I've read that too much calcium can cause a greater need for magnesium,
but is the reverse true?   Also, just because a supplement has the 2
in the proper ratio does not tell you much, i.e. there is no guarantee
that the 2 are being absorbed in that ratio.  Also, you mention that
magnesium helps to prevent calcium loss.  Prevents which calcium loss,
the calcium already in the body, or that which is being taken at the
time? If what is in the body, then the amount of magnesium one should
take should be based on that, and not how much calcium one is taking.
Might some people have a greater need for magnesium?

Mark London
MRL@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: hhll@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas)
Subject: Re: Kidney Stones
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:25:33 GMT

<RBRCSA@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:

>Can anyone recommend any literature on eating to avoid kidney stone growth?
>Is hard water a contributor?

Many, if not most, kidney stone growth has nothing to do with diet. A
_very_ small number of people can decrease their risk somewhat by
minimizing their calcium intake but most stones are primarily uric acid
crystallized around a tiny calcium oxalate core. Many people form stones
because the internal physiology of their kidneys has little 'pockets'
where silt collects and then crystallizes.

Regardless of what type of stone you're prone to the very best thing you
can do is to drink lots and lots and lots of water all the time, whether
you're symptomatic or not. This will tend to flush stuff out out before it
can crystallize (and it's just generally good for you anyway).

Your doctor should be able to tell you, via blood chemistry and a stone
analysis, whether diet modification would help you out.


Steven 'Stones' Hodas
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: CCMG@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CCMG)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: TIME RELEASE VITAMINS
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:48:58 GMT
Organization: McGill University


I recently bought some TIME RELEASE MULTI-VITAMINS,
has anyone any negative or positive remarks concerning
the TIME-RELEASE factor?

Giovanni Mendicino
Computer Operator
Mcgill University
From: kjell@cse.ucsc.edu (Kjell Post)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Fasting
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:57:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

In article <16DEC199213132194@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov> plum@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Mike Plum) writes:
>
>Hi!
>
>I'm looking for information on fasting.  I'm interested in the physiological
>aspects, as opposed to the spiritual aspects, i.e., what's it good for?  I
>am considering fasting on a periodic basis, based on the idea that it's a 
>generally good thing to do.  I plan to drink only water, for just a day at a 
>time.  
>
>I can't find much literature on this subject in the local health food stores or
>in the library.  Any information or sources of information or personal
>experiences would be much appreciated.

Join or call the American National Hygiene Society, P.O. Box 30630, 
Tampa, FL 33630, (813) 855-6607.  They have a couple of books on fasting,
written by the late Herbert M. Shelton.  He conducted several hundred
thousands of fasts.  You may want to start with the book "Fasting Can
Save Your Life".  You don't have to join to order books.

Also, please never fast alone!  Be under a the supervision of a physician.
There are places one can go for fasting; it seems the nearest place for
you would be

	Hygeia Health Retreat
	439 E. Main St.
	Yorktown, TX 78164
	Dr. Ralph Cinque, Director
	(512) 564-3670

--Kjell
From: bill@kean.ucs.mun.ca (Bill Garland)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Cranberries
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:03:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada

In article <BETSYS.92Dec1233045@ra.cs.umb.edu>, betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
> 
> From the back of my Laurel's Kitchen, which takes its numbers from
> "USDA Agriculture Handbook No 456"
> 1 cup cranberries, raw: 44 calories, 10g carbs, .7g fat, .4g protein,
> 1.3g fiber, 40 IU Vit.A, 10 IU Vit C, tiny amounts of B's, 13mg
> calcium, 10mg phosphorus, 78mg potassium, 2mg sodium. 
> 
> Nearest things seem to be some melons, figs, seedless grapes. Gee,
> I thought they had more vitamin C. Certainly they are good for you.
> The trick is probably finding them without the sauce and all. 

The trick is finding them without the turkey, dressing, gravy,
potatoes, turnip, carrots, salt beef, salt water duck, peas pudding,
cabbage, corn, ...

mmmm I'm getting hungry.

PS Cranberries and Partidgeberries - are they one and the same?

   We export partridgeberries to the US cranberry industry...
I don't know if they use them only sparingly to spice up the taste,
and certainly partridgeberry jam is a rare delicacy all you mainland
north.americans and others.in.the.world will probably never have
the pleasure of sampling, but it is not at all like cranberry sauce.
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Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson)
Subject: Fermented cheeses
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:10:51 GMT

Sorry for posting; I couldn't get email to someone who asked
which cheeses are/aren't fermented since I'd written that fermented
cheeses contain histamine.

I finally looked up cheese in Harold McGee's _On Food and Cooking_.
He lists as "unripened cheese" the following:
cottage cheese, ricotta, cream cheese, neufchatel, mozzarella and
pasteurized process cheeses.

I assume that the others are all fermented, but some are aged
longer than others.  I think some other fresh, i.e. unripened,
cheeses are farmer cheese and pot cheese which are kind of like
cottage cheese, and the East Indian panir.  Possibly also feta
cheese?  I think chevre, a goat cheese, may also be fresh?
-- 
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Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: silver@fraser.sfu.ca (Craig Silver)
Subject: Re: Calcium/Magnesium
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:57:47 GMT

cpr4k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christian P. Roberts) writes:

>What is the current recommendation for supplementing one's diet
>with calcium (to minimize the bone loss leading to osteoporosis):

I just finished a nutrition course and heard quite a lot about this
subject.  My professor's thesis is that we as north americans DO NOT
have a deficiency in calcium.  Rather, we have our calcium in the
wrong body parts.  And he blames this on our dietary VITAMIN D!  If
you'd like to me to explain further, get back to me.

>I have found supplements with Ca/Mg ratios of 2:1 and 1:1.  Or
>would it be preferable to forego the magnesium?  

If you take calcium supliments, the Ca/Mg ratio of 2:1 is definately
what I was taught.  This is especially important if you want to
maintain proper levels of calcium because it is magnesium that helps
to prevent calcium loss.

>What is the verdict on the use of calcium phosphate?  I recall that
>this was not recommended because it caused a net loss of bone.

I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about, but the current RDA
(Recommended Daily Allowance - USA) is a Ca/Mg/P ratio of 2:1:1.

-- 

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Craig Silver	           Computer Science at Simon Fraser University
silver@sfu.ca (Internet)   Burnaby, B.C., Canada
From: young@serum.kodak.com (Rich Young)
Subject: Re: Calcium/Magnesium
Originator: young@sasquatch
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:34:52 GMT

One poster wrote:

>I've read that too much calcium can cause a greater need for magnesium,
>but is the reverse true?   Also, just because a supplement has the 2
>in the proper ratio does not tell you much, i.e. there is no guarantee
>that the 2 are being absorbed in that ratio.  Also, you mention that
>magnesium helps to prevent calcium loss.  Prevents which calcium loss,
>the calcium already in the body, or that which is being taken at the
>time? If what is in the body, then the amount of magnesium one should
>take should be based on that, and not how much calcium one is taking.
>Might some people have a greater need for magnesium?

	I had the good fortune to catch the retirement speech of Dr. Walter
	Kertz, director of the Beltsville Human Nutrition Research Center,
	on C-SPAN II the other day, and this posting reminded me of one of
	his comments, the gist of which was that, given the fact that there
	are a huge number of nutrients and micro-nutrients, and given the
	fact that they often interact (here, he showed a slide which showed
	the interactions of thirteen common nutrients which, with inter-
	actions highlighted, was so complex as to be nearly unreadable),
	the best dietary advice he could offer was that which his grandmother
	had given him: eat a wide variety of foods in moderation.  As an
	example, he referred to data on iron absorption which, it turns
	out is inhibited if one has too much oregano on one's pizza, but
	enhanced by the addition of some other item which unfortunately
	escapes my memory at the moment.  He also mentioned a Swedish
	researcher named Halberg(sp?) who showed that iron absorption 
	dropped significantly in his subjects if the food was not perceived
	as appetizing, which suggests a psychological link between eating
	and absorption of nutrients.

	It is for these reasons, and others, that supplementation, except
	for correction of specific deficiencies, is basically a haphazard
	experiment, albeit usually benign.

	Two notes:

	   1. I'm typing in names and places from memory, so I freely admit
		that I may have gotten some of them wrong, but I'll stand by
		the rest of the information.

	   2. I have no wish to seem critical of any one person, so I have
		removed (I hope) all traces of identification from the quote
		above.  I use it as an example only, and trust that the
		quoted poster will not take my comments personally.


-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix)
Subject: Re: Barley Extracts
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:44:21 GMT

I take the barley extracts because they seem to make me feel less like
snacking. I take a few periodically throughout the day and it tends to
take the edge off of the sugar cravings I typically experience.

I don't think they do any damage, they have some nutrients and they
seem to help me( maybe only because I drink a glass of water with
them!). I don't mind spending the money on barley instead of Nestle's!

rf
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