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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Citizens' use of deadly force (was Re: Protection for Your Bike)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:58:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX
Keywords: doncha just lurve this newsgroup

>
[stuff about use of deadly force deleted]
>Well, here in Nevada you have the right to protect your person and
>property.  You can under the law shoot a person committing a felony
>or fleeing the scene of a felony.  They don't need to be in your
>house, or even on your property.

Here in Texas, I've heard of a 100+ year old law (informally called "the
El Paso Law" that gives someone the right to shoot a burglar or trespasser 
in the back while they are fleeing the scene but only after dark. I think this
was what Keith was talking about earlier. From time to time we get to read
about instances of this law being applied. Just about two years ago, a 
sixty-something year old grandmother shot at two burglars who were robbing her
neighbor's house in south Dallas. She hit one of them in the leg with a 12
gauge shotgun, severing his femoral artery. He bled to death in the driveway.
This happened in broad daylight so the formalities against her were taken
before a grand jury but they refused to indict her. She went home regarded
as quite a local hero, I remember her being called "Shotgun Granny" in the
newspaper. I doubt that killing a trespasser would be covered under justifiable
homicides nowadays, but burglars are still subject to getting blown away....
just make sure you kill them 'cuz they'll sue the hell out of you if you don't.

-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
=============================================================================
From: campbejr@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: winter dead bike
Summary: winter dead bike
Keywords: hard to start
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:09:40 GMT
Reply-To: campbejr@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

I have an '81 Suzuki GS550. The bike has been sitting since Oct. in a garage. 
I took the battery out and have been storing it on a wooden closet shelf; I've
even charged it, and by all indications it seems to be in good shape.  As to
the bike I've done nothing else, for its been my intention to ride it if
whenever the weather turns better.  Well the weather never improved and the
bike sat.  Last Sunday cold or not I decided to take the bike out and give it a
try, hopping that such periodic rides would make adding fuel stablizers and
other winterfication unecessary.  I put the battery in horn, lights etc. all
worked fine.  I pushed the electric start button, the starter seemed to have
some real kick, but the bike would not even come close to turning over.  I then
took the bike to my favorite hill, hopping that as when ever I did have a weak
battery the engine would kick over.  Well after about a dozen attempts the
engine did not even whimper.   I tried jumping in first and second which
usually works great, but now nothing.  So what gives are my spark plugs fouled
could the fuel have turned to gunk after a couple of months or what?  If anyone
has any ideas on how to get this Suzuki back on the road let me know, and also
what should I do differently for storage
 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Subject: Re: 100 mph highways?  No way! (Was Re: Radar Gun For Sale)
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:07:36 GMT

In article <Stafford-221292170154@stafford.winona.msus.edu>
 Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

>Well, the Interstate is straight and except for a bump in the road
>by Kellog, it is flat.  One is in danger of falling asleep on that
>road.  It is soooo boring but about the only way to get to Baxter
>Cycle, closer to Omaha right of 80.

>It is definitely a 100mph road.

I used to live in Ames, IA and regularly drove I-80 from DesMo to Chicago. 
Snow plows regularly remove large sections of the Interstate leaving holes I 
really wouldn't want to hit at 100 MPH. As I recall, the IL section was a 
lot worse than the IA section.

Now I-20 in Texas is a different matter. I well recall on July 4, 1987, my 
brother and I rode a pair of Concours from Ft. Worth to Commerce, and except 
for a brief bit near downtown Dallas, we never went under 100 mph. The thing 
that really amazed me was that there was a fair amount of traffic, and we 
weren't the only ones out there doing the DoD recommended speed. We were 
frequently passed by cars and bikes. Passed one DPS man, but he was busy 
writing up someone else.

 - Steve
DoD # 1951, COG, HOG, AMA
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Protection for Your Bike
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:16:51 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
: In article <1992Dec29.163154.1850@balrog.dseg.ti.com>, keith@balrog (Keith A. Schauer) writes:
: >In article <1992Dec29.025143.3425@netcom.com> avery@netcom.com (Avery Ray Colter) writes:
: >>
: >>I did have a dream once about hearing my remote pager sound,
: >>and running down the way to where my bike was parked (why wasn't
: >>it where I was sleeping? Because my girlfriend lives in a trailer park (yuk)),
: >>letting off a few .22 rounds at the perps and screaming obscenities.
: >>
: >>The authorities might not be sympathetic with that path of action though.
: >>
: >	Down here, only if you missed.  
: >
: >	Deadly force to protect your property, no problem.
: >	Perps running away, no problem at night, problem during the day.

	In the Beautiful southern State of Georgia, it is legal to
	shoot and kill someone if they are commiting an enforceable
	felony. Prime example...a man was stealing a womans car. She
	got the the car just as he got in to it and was about to leave.
	She pulled a revolver and warned him twice not to drive away.
	he kept pulling away and she shot him. The police charged her
	but the charges were dropped after the investegation was
	completed. 

				Ryan
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: testing... please ignore
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:46:59 GMT

In article <971@modular.UUCP> chan@modular.com (Tak Chan) writes:
>I told you this is only a test...


Yeah, we don't like helmet laws, either.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
                Celebrate the winter holiday of your choice by
                  offering your hand to someone who needs it.
From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cell phones
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:27:52 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <1992Dec19.000756.6480@elektro.cmhnet.org>, by charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith):
> In article <1992Dec16.191258.20787@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette) writes:
>>>> In article <1992Dec15.232133.6210@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>4) Jerry (our pet name for geriatrics -- people who are quite slow,
>>>> I use LOL, LOM (little 'ol lady/man) or LOX (X=don't care, leftovers
>>>> from my hardware engineering days :-) My biggest fear of visiting
>>>> my dad in Tampa, Florida is dealing with the LOX's on I-4 and the other
>>>> "high speed" roads :-( (Sorry Floridians!)
>>>
>>>I call these people 'hatters', cuz usually it's an old guy wearing a
>>>white hat (and almost always driving a large American car like a big old Ford
>>
>>Blue heads.
> 
> They're O.P.'s    (Old People)

No, no, no.
To be politically correct, it would be...

Chronically Challenged Persons.

(CCPs).

Antony.
DoD#1832.
Bah. Humbug.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:02:29 GMT

In article <9901115@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson) writes:
>In rec.motorcycles, serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>
>> >Abby's reply:
>> >Dear Barbara,
>> >I presume you have insurance in the event that a child (or an adult) is
>> >injured on- or falling off- your vehicle. A motorcycle is legally termed
>> >"an attractive nuisance. Owning a motorcycles is an awesome responsibility."
>>     
>> Does this reponse burn anyone else as it does me?   Not only does she appear to 
>> condone the actions of these mush-brained assholes and their brain dead ...
>
>  No small coincidence ...
>
>> Everyone reading this, who shares an interest in motorcycling needs to write to
>> this stupid bitch and let her know our feelings ...
>
>  Won't do too much good, she's brain dead too.  Just for kicks, ask the mental
>  prune what she thinks about guns ...

I already know where she stands on that issue.  I wrote a letter some years ago
responding to some ignorant statement she had made about guns.  Of course it
didn't get published (no profanity either),  but then I never expected that it
would.  


Mike Serafin
serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Goldwings are darned interesting motorcycles
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:20:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.153812.9911@news.mentorg.com> mikej@mikej.mentorg.com (Mike Johnson) writes:
>John Sloan writes a remarkably clear and reasoned article
>on what GoldWings are good for.
>
>John you have captured the essence of Wings.  Well said!
>
>Mike Johnson
>One who commutes on a Wing
>mikej@wv.mentorg.com

Yes, I agree that Wings are interesting.  Their engine design is very good and
the handling is an unforgettable but not unpleasant experience.  I speak from
experience as I owned a Wing for 8 months and used it to despatch around
Smoke (London) on it.(!)  Mine was a '78 with fairing and panniers.  I used to
dent the downpipes on kerbs....


Nick (the Lunatic Biker)   DoD 1069


M'Lud
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Senseless, Childish Brazier Auction
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 07:56:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.191329.14845@colorado.edu> laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>In article <carlp.725220586@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>>laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>>
>>>As my esteemed colleage Mr. Tod J. Johnson has upped the bid.
>>>I will follow through with another bid.
>>
>>Since my noted compatriot Mr. Laszxthlo Nemeth has failed to follow
>>through with another bid as promised, I now bid $31.
>>
>
>ok so i thought i had put in a bid but i forgot.
>my bid is now at $32 and if i get this job i am interviewing
>for i will be able to out bid all of you.

Enough of this penny ante crap. $50. That's right, the big 5-0. Enough
to take somebody out to dinner at a place where they might even like you
to wear a long sleeve shirt. Enough to see the movies, twice, with a
friend. Enough to buy the oil for a change on your bike. 

So there.





Uh - hey guys? What did I just buy? And is the money going to some good
charity? I haven't exactly been keeping up with this thread.....
-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
   216 years ago my government gave me certain inalienable rights.
     Since then, they've been trying to correct their mistake.
From: prange@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange)
Subject: Re: Senseless, Childish Brazier Auction
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 14:49:49 GMT

A"brazier" is something that holds a fire. Perhaps you mean to fire up
your fantasies about the contents of a brassier? Whatever turns you on...

Happy Holidays

Henry Prange
From: edh@wheeler.unr.edu (Ed Hackett)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Protection for Your Bike
Date: 31 Dec 92 01:02:31 GMT
Reply-To: edh@wheeler.unr.edu (Ed Hackett)
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <1992Dec30.013449.6804@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>In article <carlp.725675697@frigg>, carlp@frigg (Carl Paukstis) writes:

>>I grew up in rural Texas near Plano (outside McKinney for the locals).
>>When we moved into our house in the early 70's the county Sheriff came
>>by to welcome us to the area.  Among his advice to my Dad was words to
>>the effect of "If you see anyone prowling around your house and you
>>shoot them, just drag the body into the garage so we can say he broke
>>in and there will be no questions asked."

>I know this is probably unnecessary, but it's my personal Mission In
>Life to disabuse gullible netters of this particular notion.
>This advice is something that is repeated so often, and is so
>completely and dangerously WRONG, that someone (Clayton?) should have
>a stock text to use for followup whenever it's posted.

Well, here in Nevada you have the right to protect your person and
property.  You can under the law shoot a person committing a felony
or fleeing the scene of a felony.  They don't need to be in your
house, or even on your property.

In a recent case here in Reno two people broke into a man's
apartment while he was in the back room.  He grabbed his rifle and
confronted them in the front room.  They taunted him and said that
he wasn't going to do anything.  They then took off across the
parking lot.  He shot one in the leg as they fled.  The police
arrested the two a few blocks away.  No charges were brought
against the man, because what he had done was within the law.

The current judges and DA hold this right to be sacred, and in
fact, a Nevada citizen has more lattitude in shooting a fleeing
felon than the police.

Even our normally liberal paper took the attitude that this was
lawful, but one must be careful that a crime was being committed,
and that you were prepared for the consequences (possible lawsuits,
and psyclogically) for your actions.  This of course brought out
the liberals asking if a TV or VCR was worth someone's life.  One
Right Thinking individual replied that they had missed the point,
which was that the would-be criminal must ask him/herself if that
TV or VCR is worth _their_ life.

 Ed Hackett   edh@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu     The Desert Research Institute 
 DoD #0200  WMTC  BMWRA  DIOC             Reno, Nevada   (702) 673-7380   
 KotLS  KtoLE  DotD #0003      Motorcycling is not a life and death matter.
 900SS  K100RS  501 CAMEL      It's more important than that.    __=o&o>__
From: laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: testing... please ignore
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:42:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group

well should i buy another old bemeer and be indebt for another
year (unless i get a 6 figure job ;-) or should i just fix my
current one and only be in debt for 6 months or so....

also its about time for another helmet war. so all you californicators
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

we don't have a helmet law (all tho we do have 2). So i can be
an irresponsible rider and ride without a helmet and all you assholes
will have to foot the bill when i wreck......

also i'm having a New Years Eve party at 1523 6th St. Boulder Colorado
90210 home of coach Mac and soon to be legalized discrimintation
against gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, women, blacks, hispanics, orientals,
and dogs (unless your on a football team).


laz
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rstewart@ganglia.megatek.com (Rich Stewart)
Subject: Any BMW R100GS [PD] owners out there?
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:50:34 GMT

I have been thinking about purchasing either a R100GS or a R100GS PD
I was wonder how any owners of such bike feel about them. Hows the
ride, what does it cost to keep it running, etc.
Thanks.
Please reply via e-mail.
-Rich

-- 
  rstewart@megatek.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:48:58 GMT

In article <carlp.724996768@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
}I'm now bidding $23, same conditions, inclusive of shipping.

$24, ditto, but *plus* shipping. I won't pay for handling, though,
unless I also receive videotape of same.

-- 
Curtis Jackson  DoD #721   '62 Yankee Brunette "Dorothy"    '81 Maxim 650
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com   '91 Black Lab "Studley"  '92 Collie/Golden "George"
  "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The vertical 1/4 mile
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:09:41 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jody Levine (jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca) wrote:
: total acceleration of ZX-11 over 1/4 mile > total (acceleration of space
: shuttle - 9.8 m/s/s) over 1/4 mile. After all, that first bit that
: the shuttle does looks pretty slow. No matter. I'd like to try both. 

As luck would have it this weekend I saw about 10 min. of a show on the first
flight of the Space Shuttle.  One of the pilots mentioned that the initial
acceleration was about 1.5G right off the pad and it gradually increased to
3G.  I'll let all the rec.moto.physics folks argue^H^H^H^H^H discuss 
what this means releative to the ZX-11.
--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* Computing Center at Virginia Tech, not Vermont ----------------------^^     *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Front Tire Off Ground
	<JET.92Dec28010921@boxer.nas.nasa.gov>
	<1992Dec29.015500.19240@cs.cornell.edu>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:31:48

"karr" == David Karr <karr@cs.cornell.edu> writes:

karr> What's CPSR?

Computer Professionsals for Social Responsibility, aka "Nerds Against
Nukes".  They cover a really wide range of computer-technology related
social issues.  For info, send email to cpsr@csli.stanford.edu.
--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWMOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: manuel@space.ualberta.ca  (John Manuel)
Subject: Renting and Riding in New Zealand?
Reply-To: manuel@space.ualberta.ca  (John Manuel)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:21:18 GMT

I'm off to NZ at the end of the week for four months and I'm taking along my  
helmet and leathers. I plan to rent a bike for a couple of long weekends and  
explore the two islands.

Any recommedations on how and from whom to rent while I'm in Wellington?

It's Winter up here (-25 degrees F), but it's Summer down there... ;-)

--
John R. Manuel                   Department of Physics, University of Alberta
manuel@space.ualberta.ca                   Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA, T6G 2J1
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Honda CX500 Turbo
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 15:48:55 GMT

In article <ramarren-311292112544@kops.apple.com> ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi) writes:
>> About how much would one expect to pay for a CX500 Turbo (77hp, fuel-
>> injected turbocharged V-twin) with 1,800 miles in excellent condition?
>> 
>> Is this a bike worth owning?  (After all, how many factory-turbo V-twins
>> have the Japanese made?)
>> 
>> Does anyone have any personal experience with the performance/handling 
>> characteristics of the bike?
>
>Honda CX500 Turbos are fairly rare... I think the figure was less then 
>1500 imported total. I remember riding one very very briefly when they
>were new (my old boss let me ride the one that he had on the floor). 
>Somewhat heavy and weak until the turbo was up to speed, then it ripped.
>
>Handling was good as long as you were careful to not wack the throttle
>across the turbo boundary while in a corner. Tail would slide quite 
>readily then and be difficult to get back under control. Beyond that, it
>certainly isn't up to current state of the art but was generally a decent
>handler.
>
>I don't know what they are worth. The person I met last year who had one
>really liked it, but admitted that it's a very complex moto and will be 
>expensive to fix in the event of a major repair.
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>Godfrey DiGiorgi - ramarren@apple.com  | DoD #0493      AMA#489408

There was a very nice, low mileage original Honda CX turbo sold at the 
auction when I bought the Morini. I thought it was a 650. It went for 
around $1100.

Jeff Achenbach
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Whoever dies with the most toys, still dies
Date: 3 Jan 93 10:01:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1993Jan3.150109.2833
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Organization: CMU Alumni External Account

In article <1993Jan3.063743.17915@grebyn.com>, rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
> In article <1993Jan2.211407.29873@samba.oit.unc.edu> ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero) writes:
>>
>>Well I've got 10 Bimota Tesis, 50 NR750s, a controlling stake in Norton *and*
>>Triumph, 5 Kennedy class carriers with supporting fleets, 5 wings of F-117s,
>>a 64K processor Connection Machine 5, plus I'm sleeping with Cindy Crawford,
>>Richard Gere, and the hamster.
> 
> So YOU'RE the guy she started shacking up with after I dumped her.

	You shacked up with a hamster ?  How bizarre...  :-o

Rob
--
   Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
                          Systems Engineer
                 AMA 642916   DoD 0593   FSSNOC 1721
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon)   '79 XT500 (The Bitch)   '87 KDX200 (Moose)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:52:29 GMT

In article <BD.93Jan1084853@bd.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
}Scaring the shit out of rug rats might seem like fun to you,
}but I would think a calm chewing-out of the parent might be more
}appropriate.

Yes, education is the right answer, and calm education will work better.

In the meantime, for those of you who consider this to be such a
burning, pressing, all-important issue, why not:

1) Always put your bike on its center stand for safety if you have to
leave it where the unwashed masses might be tempted to straddle it, and

2) Go to one of those places that make magnetic signs (the ones that are
just one huge sheet of magnet to go on the sides of trucks and such) and
get them to make you a KEEP OFF sign of your chosen wording for your
tank. Just toss it on the tank when you have to leave the bike.
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721			'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles