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From: danisch@ira.uka.de (Hadmut Danisch )
Subject: Photo_CD to pbmplus Converter
Keywords: Photo CD
Reply-To: danisch@ira.uka.de
Organization: Univ. Karlsruhe
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:54:33 GMT

Hi,

last week i got my first photo cd. The cdrom-drive connected
to our sparcs could read the cdrom and tried to write
a decoder for the images. The format of the images is designed
well but still quite simple. I did not have greater problems
to understand the format and i wrote a program which converts
all resolutions up to 3072x2048 into a ppm file for use
with pbmplus and viewing with xv. This was just an
afternoons hack. This program should work on nearly every
computer with a c-compiler and enough memory and i would
give the source to usenet but i am not sure, whether this
is allowed. I think i will be sued by Kodak or something like
that.

Does anyone know something more about Kodaks politics in
such things? Have they already done anything? Do they
sell reader software for unix-machines and what is the
price? Which informations about the fileformat do they let
out?

Has anyone got any experience in giving out such software?

Thanks

Hadmut Danisch (danisch@ira.uka.de)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Wanted: Photo CD-ROM driver upgrade for IBM PCWhat do I have to do to upgrade my cd-rom drivers to read Kodak format
From: Chris Allison <CHRIS@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992 16:30:50 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service
From: lsscrm@luxor.latrobe.edu.au (C.R.Maberly, Sociology post-graduate)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Sources for outdated CDs?
Summary: What happends to outdated CD-ROMs-- are they available?
Keywords: outdated, upgraded, cd-rom
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:22:01 GMT
Followup-To: lsscrm@luxor.latrobe.edu.au (C.R.Maberly)
Organization: La Trobe University
Originator: lsscrm@luxor.latrobe.edu.au

There are some extreemly useful CD-ROM titles that some of us will never
be able to afford-- nor are able to have our institutions purchase.
What happens to the dated CDs-- are they exchanged (and recycled) or
are they available for people like me?

My wish list includes:  
Religion and Theology Extracts, $595
Religion Indexes, H.W.Wilson, $795
Various newspaper archives, $many

Clif

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From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: SPERM and CD-ROMS
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:35:23 GMT

In article <mcnair.26.718747967@slab.unt.edu> mcnair@slab.unt.edu (SEAN MCNAIR) writes:
       I recently fell out of bed while I was having some intense sex with my 
   girlfriend and spermed on some CD-ROMS I have. I didn't get a chane to wash 
   them off for three weeks! Soemtimes these CDs skip in the reader. Is this 
   due to the sperm, or could it be something else?

			       Gumby
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From: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Redistributable Digital Images
Date: 12 Oct 1992 10:36:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, rdm@cfcl.com (Rich Morin) says:

>
>Most of the digitized images that are currently available on bulletin boards,
>Internet archives, and distributions have no clear provenance.  This is not
>much of a practical problem for the techies, as few artists (e.g., painters,
>photographers, computer artists, etc.) or publishers have the resources to
>chase after the pirate digitizers and distributors.  It is an ethical and
>legal problem, however, and has kept us (Prime Time Freeware) from putting
>such images on its semi-annual CD-ROMs.
>
>Note 1:	I am not interested in starting a flame war here.  Feel free to keep
>Note 1:	on digitizing Ansel Adams, Motor Trend, and Playboy.  I won't hassle
>Note 1:	you.  I just want a way to find interesting images that I can put on
>Note 1:	my discs without incurring either legal liabilities or bad karma.

It is doubtful that you would get into serious trouble by redistributing
scanned images unless there was a Copyright notice clearly visible.
Even then, there is a provision for "fair use" in the Copyright law
which is pretty vague in interpretation.

Generally, you will only run into serious problems with copyright
holders when:

a) You place yourself in competition with them by distributing their
Copyrighted works in a similar form.

b) You are making a serious profit from the distribution of their works.

c) You are depriving them of revenue through the distribution of such
works.

Most of the stuff on GIF discs contains images that are for personal
enjoyment/entertainment only.  They are of little, if any commercial
value when viewed on a home computer.  If you reprint them in a book
and sell it for profit, that is a different story.

So far, I haven't read any legal precedents re: copyright infringement
having to so with the distribution of GIF images.  Otherwise, outfits
like Compuserve (who developed the GIF format) who actually profit
from the downloading of GIFs would have been in hot water long ago.



-- 
aa699@Cleveland.Freenet.EDU/GEnie=A.THOMAS16/Compuserve:71541,3456
TONY THOMAS - SIGop - Audio Arts SIG - Cleveland FreeNet
"True riches is not what you have - It's the kind of person you are"

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: rcharbon@athena.mit.edu (Ray Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: DIR on a CD-ROM
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:03:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.123421.12403@linus.mitre.org>, patel@mwunix (Anup C. Patel) writes:
|> Here's my situation.  I have a Apple CD-ROM (basically a Sony mechanism),    
|> connected to an Adaptec 1542 SCSI interface, and using the ASPI4DOS.SYS and
|> ASWCDSNY.SYS drivers.
|> 
|> When I initially insert a CD in the reader and do a DIR, the CD directory is
|> correct.  However if I eject the CD and replace it with a totally different
|> CD, the file directory that is diplayed is the same as the first CD.
|> 
|> This problem is corrected if I do the following.    
|> 1. Eject the second CD.
|> 2. Do a DIR without a CD in the reader.
|>    At this time I get a 'CDR101: Not ready reading drive D' error.
|> 3. I insert the second CD, and press 'R'etry.
|> 4. The correct file directory appears.
|> 
|> So the questions is, why is this happening?  My older Hitachi drive did not do
|> this - it worked flawlessly.

I had the same problem with the 1542 and a NEC CDR-73.  Using the NEC (Trantor)
SCSI card and the Trantor drivers (I've also got a SCSI hard disk) made the
problem go away.  

Now our new 486 with the 1542 and a Sony drive doesn't have this problem. 
Perhaps Adaptec has fixed it?


-- 
Ray Charbonneau              | The fifth dentist makes all the money.
rcharbon@athena.mit.edu      |             -- me
MIT and the Library Systems Office are glad that I'm posting my opinions
here so that they don't have to listen to them anymore.
From: pjs@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Peter John Swiatkowski)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: CD ROM benchmarks
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:01:49 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

G'day from down under,

I'm currently undertaking a review of CD-ROM technology and products.

What I would like is some software to test CD-ROM drives with respect to
performance and compliance with the relevant standards.

If someone would post a follow up letting the readers of this group know
where we might buy a suitable package, or better still let us know of an
anon. ftp site where a suitable package might be obtained, I think there
would be some demand.

The sort of software I'm looking for would, among other things, be able to
provide measures of seek time and transfer rates. I would also like it to
be able to measure host CPU load when the CD-ROM drive is active. At this
point I don't know any tool that would let me measure this to permit
evaluation against the MPC Marketing Council's specification for PC CD-ROM
drives of not using more that 40% of CPU bandwidth.

Thanks in anticipation,

Peter Swiatkowski
Microcomputer Support Group
Information Technology Services
University of Melbourne
Parkville, Victoria AUSTRALIA

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: Redistributable Digital Images
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 12:21:57 GMT

In article <1bbkfaINNob7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas) writes:
> 
> 
> It is doubtful that you would get into serious trouble by redistributing
> scanned images unless there was a Copyright notice clearly visible.
> Even then, there is a provision for "fair use" in the Copyright law
> which is pretty vague in interpretation.
> 
> Generally, you will only run into serious problems with copyright
> holders when:
> 
> a) You place yourself in competition with them by distributing their
> Copyrighted works in a similar form.

Event Horizons might give you a different slant on that statement. They just
paid out around $500,000 to Playboy on a copyright infringement suit. Playboy
doesn't distribute it's images digitized.... 

> b) You are making a serious profit from the distribution of their works.

This fits... 

> c) You are depriving them of revenue through the distribution of such
> works.
> 
> Most of the stuff on GIF discs contains images that are for personal
> enjoyment/entertainment only.  They are of little, if any commercial
> value when viewed on a home computer.  If you reprint them in a book
> and sell it for profit, that is a different story.

"Printing" them on a CD-ROM is no different than printing them in a book.. 


> So far, I haven't read any legal precedents re: copyright infringement
> having to so with the distribution of GIF images.  Otherwise, outfits
> like Compuserve (who developed the GIF format) who actually profit
> from the downloading of GIFs would have been in hot water long ago.
> 
See the above re: Event Horizons.....

> -- 
> aa699@Cleveland.Freenet.EDU/GEnie=A.THOMAS16/Compuserve:71541,3456
> TONY THOMAS - SIGop - Audio Arts SIG - Cleveland FreeNet
> "True riches is not what you have - It's the kind of person you are"
>
From: nl0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nathan James Loofbourrow)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: SPERM and CD-ROMS
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:07:09 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

mcnair@slab.unt.edu (SEAN MCNAIR) writes:
>     I recently fell out of bed while I was having some intense sex with my 
> girlfriend and spermed on some CD-ROMS I have. I didn't get a chane to wash 
> them off for three weeks! Soemtimes these CDs skip in the reader. Is this 
> due to the sperm, or could it be something else?

I was having similar problems several years ago, and I found that
using a green marker pen on the edge of the CD-ROM caused it to read
much better. To prevent this sort of problem in the future, I
recommend vigorously rubbing the surface of your CD-ROMS with a light
water-based spermicide.

nathan
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Listing Of Available Cd-R
From: agsmith@matai.vuw.ac.nz
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:16:17 GMT
Distribution: alt,nz
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington,  NZ

Some directories/ databases of CD-ROM products:

     TITLE   CD-ROM information products : an evaluative guide and directory /
             edited by C.J. Armstrong and J.A. Large.
   IMPRINT   Aldershot, Hants, England ; Brookfield, VT, USA : Gower, c1990.

     TITLE   CD-ROMs in print.
   IMPRINT   Westport, CT : Meckler, 1987-

There are also directories that cover databases in general, whether on CD-ROM
or online. These include:

Directory of Online Databases - Cuadra. available on the Datastar and Orbit
online services. It also appears in print, published by Gale Research in the
US.


Computer readable databases. Published by Gale Research in the US. available as
an online database on Dialog.

Your library should be able to give you more information about these
directories.

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From: griest@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu (Tom Griest)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: DAK offer
Keywords: DAK, music
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:14:25 GMT
Organization: Ada Joint Program Office

In article <1992Oct14.223441.28001@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> posey@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Posey) writes:
>Does anyone have an opinion on DAK's latest offer -
>a BSR 6800MX drive plus a Music Launching program
>to play audio CD-s through your computer ...
>
>All this for $199.90 ...


I just purchased the DAK drive and a considerable amount of CD ROMs.
The music launcher program is pretty sharp.  It turns your system
into a sophisticated Audio CD player and has a nice user interface.
It also has a background mode which allows playing audio CDs while
you work.  (I'm using it now as I type across a 9600Baud modem.)

I was a little scared with DAK under court protection, but they
delivered everything I ordered and so far I am pleased.  The
drive I got is a Mitsumi with a motorized caddiless tray.  The
tray is under software control for open/close (as well as front
panel).  If you need further details, let me know.

   Tom
From: scohen@cup.portal.com (Seth D Cohen)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: RE: Sony CD-ROM
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 92 13:31:56 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

  Just posting a follow up to my previous posting in case anybody
was interested in what I found out.  Unfortunately for me, the 
news wasn't what I really wanted to hear. :-(  Thanks to everybody
that responded to my plea, as you did help answer my questions.

  The dealer that sold me the drive as a SCSI (actually there were at
least 2 dealers at that PC-Fest selling that same drive as a SCSI),
was not correct.  As was pointed out to me by David Elliot via Email,
the drive is definitely NOT a SCSI, and should not have been sold as 
one.  I have 2 non-MSDOS computers both with SCSI host adapters and
was looking for an external CD-ROM drive that I could use with either
machine.  What I ended up with is a drive with a "Sony Bus" that will
not work with my existing SCSI host adapters.

  Some people on the net have hinted at the possibility of adapting 
this drive to work with a SCSI host adapter.  If it can be done 
without major modifications to the drive I would like to hear about
it.  At this point it looks like the best thing I can do is purchase
a CD-ROM drive that is truly a SCSI and accept the fact that I was
"misled" by a dealer who either didn't know what he was selling or
just didn't care.

  The moral to my story is:

    1. Know what you are buying.
    2. If you don't know, don't take a dealers word for it unless you
       are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that he knows what he is talking about.

  Hopefully somebody else can learn from my mistake.  I know that I
sure did.

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: younus@iona.uk.sun.com (Younus Nabi - Sandwiche Student - Tse Edinburgh)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Using networked CD`s
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:59:07 GMT
Reply-To: younus.nabi@uk.sun.com
 s


Hi Gurus.
I have a access to a cdrom via a network froma server. On this cd player I have mounted a dos cd. This has been exported as a NFS filesystem which the PC can now read.

Problem: The cd's although they can be read and any exe program on them run, the software frontends all seem to look for the mscdex.exe driver, this in turn refuses to load beacuse I do not have a driver for my scsi card, I can`t load my scsi driver because it says "go away" because there is no player attached to it. :-(

WHAT DO I DO? Give up and write a new frontend program that treats each cd as a readonly network drive? Is there a way to fool mscdex.exe to act as a virtual driver?

I would LOVE to get this to work PLEASE can anyone help?

many thanks .
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From: pjs@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Peter John Swiatkowski)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Sole Source Systems price list
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:11:50 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia


Would some helpful netter please email me a copy of the price list of
CD-ROM software from Sole Source Systems in San Diego, California?

From an old ad. of theres it can be downloaded from their BBS at 2400bps.
The BBS phone number is (was??) 619 467-0666.

Thanks in advance,

Peter Swiatkowski, down under in Australia
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: NEW TEXEL DRIVE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:05:52 GMT

jay@sw.stratus.com (Jay Appell) writes:
>When the demop started, each PC began to show the Anderson Window adverstisment which
>shows a cad type home being viewed from a birds eye. As the eye flew through the home
>you could see the TEXEL drive advancing on it's competition. It finished 17 seconds ahead
>of the other CD-ROMS. On a seperate demo he knocked gently on the NEC-84 and the drive
>stopped! It sampled again and continued onward! When the same light tap and then heavy blow
>was placed on the TEXEL drive...it ran without hesitation. Only when a large heavy thump was
>placed on the drive did it stutter. This was most impressive, not only for it's speed but
*----
Well, I appreciate information on new products, but I have to wonder if 
you saw anything but a high-tech Dog and Pony Show.  I've seen this same
setup before:  A proprietary CD-ROM interface can often beat a standard
SCSI interface for certain applications.  Did you look inside the three
computers to see if they all used the very same hardware?

You can selectively tap a lot of mechanical devices and cause problems
provided you know the right spots.  Did YOU actually get to try rapping
on the drives where YOU wanted?

Some of my friends accuse me of being cynical.  Maybe I am.  But
never take a salesperson's demo at face value.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Hitachi CDR-1700S
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:18:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

BF>I am having problems installing a Hitachi cdrom in a 
BF>PowerMate 1 Plus box (NEC).  I don't think the system knows its
BF>there.  I get a Not Ready error, and no drive spin.
BF>hitachia.sys is given the default parameters /D:MSCD000
BF>/N:1 /P:300.  The I/O address on the Hitachi bus was 300, which 
BF>should work. mscdex.exe got /d:mscd000 /m:12. the rom's switches are
BF>1-on 2-off 3-off 4-off 5-on 6-off. 

First, try making both device names identical, including case. If that
doesn't work and you have another system available, you might try to 
install the drive in it, as the drive may not be working.
In any case, you can probably get more help by calling 1-800-HITACHI, 
and asking for CD-ROM technical support.
---
 . KingQWK 1.05 # 141 . 
          
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: joec@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (joseph cossette)
Subject: Re: CDROM.SYS or similar source code ?
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:07:21 GMT

> 
> I do not know of any sample CD-ROM driver code that is available.  You
> need to get the MSCDEX detailed documentation, which is available on
> CICA.  The latest version I have seen there is the documentation for
> MSCDEX 2.1, but this should work for 2.2 as well.  Sample non-CD-ROM
> driver code examples can be found in _Advanced_MS-DOS_Programming_ (a
> book) by Ray Duncan, published by Microsoft Press.  Between the two
> you should have pretty much all you need, except the documentation of
> the card you will be writing the driver for.
> 

What/where is CICA?

/exit
/save
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 Programmer's Doc onBooks on CD-ROM??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:50:48 GMT

cfw@unixland.natick.ma.us (Christopher Wroten) writes:
>Does anyone know if Microsoft or some other company has the Microsoft
>Windows 3.1 Programmer's Reference Series (8 books I think) on CD-ROM?
*----
I believe the Microsoft Developer Network CD-ROM has this.  It's
the successor to the  Microsoft Programmer's Library.  I have the
pre-release disk, but haven't installed the new drivers yet.  It
claims to be incomplete, but the actual release version should
correct those deficiencies.

The Microsoft Programmer's Library was very worthwhile, and
would have been more so if periodic updates were available at
reasonable prices.  Releasing the new stuff as a different
product lets Microsoft off the hook, so they are not obligated
to fulfill their promise of those updates.

They are sending two pre-release CD-ROMs to MPL customers,
but the letter indicated that would be the extent of their
support for that product.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: rlee@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Richard Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Reading audio CD in CDROM drive
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:24:58 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


That's not exactly true....see FAQ on cdrom.com

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 | What if life was |   Richard Lee               |                         |
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 | and GOD decided  |   Apt 11                    |                         |
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Xref: sparky alt.cd-rom:3709 comp.os.os2.programmer:5729
From: rlee@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Rich Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: os/2 cd-rom driver
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:10:24 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


I would definitly be interesting in a driver for the DAK for OS/2!!!
You might be able to sell it to DAK.  They buy stuff like that. To 
enhance their hardware.


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