HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: JGB east coast tour on sale dates!
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:43:36 GMT


	As newly crowned Chairman of the Diamondback Advisory Board, Steve-TOO
has released his "Vision Statement" for the upcoming month of November.
As secretary of said board, I have been empowered to release said statement.

	"My vision for all fellow Diamondbacks in the upcoming month is fairly
simple.  We should no longer view our quest as that of a militant guerilla
fanatical musical movement.  We have conquered rec.music.gd.  We have 
overturned the applecart of reason.  We are in The Playground!  The time for
a kinder, gentler mode of operating is at hand.  As we move into the virtual
community, let us not forget the immortal words of our ultimate leader,
"We got all night, to set the world right"  Diamonds are forever!"

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Libertarianism
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 16:00:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.195814.26089@gasco.com> fpf@aries.gasco.com (Frank Ferguson x3584) writes:
>Ok.  So we've all been impressed at one time or another with the 
>logic of the postitions advanced by Adam Smith and John Locke.  
>Great.  But this is rec.music.gdead.  Its simply common courtesy
>to try and limit the material discussed here to something remotely
>related to the group's central topic.  

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????:-)

>Also, Libertarianism is
>getting to be boring.  It seems like every newsgroup has its
>interminable Libertarian chatter going on.  No other political
>party or faction seems ever to intrude on wildly unrelated newsgroups.
>Perhaps Libertarianism is an occupational hazard of computer types.
>While making no particular comment about the content of Libertarianism,
>I would just like to say, "would you guys just shut up, and move on
>to some appropriate newsgroup, please?" 
>
Careful now Frank, all this stress could give you GAS:-) :-) :-)

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From: klp@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Kevin Prigge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Setlists for 6/25/88 & 10/9/89
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:25:01 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

6/25/88 Buckeye Lake OH
Stranger>Franklins, Box of Rain, Sugaree*> Memphis Blues*, West LA Fadeaway,
Cassidy>Deal.
VOTC,Blow Away>Foolish Heart>Terrapin>Drumz>Other One>Wharf Rat>Throwin
Stones>NFA. E: NFA, Heavens Door

* Hornsby on Accordion

10/9/89
Hampton Coliseum
Stranger,Built To Last,Rooster,Ramble On,We Can Run,Jack-A-Roe,Memphis
Blues,Row Jimmy,Music Never Stopped.
Playin>UJB>Playin>Dark Star>Drumz>Death Don't>Mr. Fantasy>Hey Jude
Finale>Throwin Stones>Good Lovin. E:Attics

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "John A. Trucillo" <trucillo@icarus.montclair.edu>
Subject: RE : GD IN NY!
Reply-To: trucillo@icarus.montclair.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:24:24 GMT


	I would like more info on the dead being in NY.  Is it just rumors??  
Where are they playing?? what are the dates??  Any info would be greatly
appreciated!
						Peace,
							John

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: RGE7319@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Dead net
Reply-To: RGE7319@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:04:22 GMT

hey now ,

	i want you to send me your wonderful grateful dead information to keep me in tune with the dead world.  Thanks alot !!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: columba!jol@alux2.att.com
Subject: Naw Leans
Reply-To: columba!jol@alux2.att.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:26:46 GMT


Sorry fot the LODC.
I'll be in New Orleans from 10/30 - 11/7. Does anybody know
of any bands playing in that area or anything else going on
that may be worth checking out?
Thanks in advance :-)

Joe Ledva
columba!jol@alux2.att.com
From: kmodel@cis.rand.org (Karyn Model)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Favorite venue
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:54:25 GMT
Reply-To: kmodel@cis.rand.org (Karyn Model)

In article <DomJsB3w164w@wharf> jackaroe@wharf.UUCP (Bart Zantzinger) writes:

>I was really hurting a few years back, after the Foxboro show, I guess in 
>1989, when I spent 11 hours on the road, lost my shoes, drove on the 
>racetrack during the 3 hour wait to get out of the parking lot, etc. etc, 

Foxboro was sooooo bad.  Esp. the traffic.  I remember abandoning my car
about 2 miles away (after many hours sitting in it!) --  smartest thing to
do since I also avoided parking lot hell on the way out.  I remember that I
abandoned my car on the side of the road, and when I got back, I realized
that I had left the passenger's side window open.  Car was full of clothes,
tapes, show supplies, etc.  Of course, everything was still there --
nothing missing.  Only at a DEAD show.

BTW, I also dislike Giant's Stadium for the obvious reasons.  RFK is okay,
but I kind of like to spend a little time on the mountain at Shoreline...

karyn
--<-@
From: jko@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Fire Up/Heavy Turbulence CD
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:51:31 GMT


A few questions to posed to all those heads out there.

first, Someone mentioned the new double-album-on-one-CD release
of Jerry Garcia's Fire Up and Heavy Turbulence CD's.  It is supposed
to be on Fantasy Records.  GDM does'nt have it.  Anyone know where
I can get a copy????

second, this is a WISH for a tape.  I am looking for tapes from the
COLORADO-RED ROCKS ALLMAN BROTHERS/BLUES TRAVELER shows that occured
July 3 and 4th, 1992.  Please respond to my e-mail if anyone has good
quality tapes - Have lots to trade in return... Also looking for
LIVE Indigo Girls, Spin Doctors.

--  AEEEOOOOWWWWWWOOO - Werewolves of Oakland!  See ya all there!

JAMES
jko@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

p.s.  I just picked up the new 4-disc Bob Marley compilation set called
"Songs of Freedom" - Really cool compilation of live, unreleased and some
classic material.
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: The Venue from Hell (was Re: Favorite venue)
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:11:41 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

In article <DomJsB3w164w@wharf> jackaroe@wharf.UUCP (Bart Zantzinger) writes:
>I was really hurting a few years back, after the Foxboro show, I guess in 
>1989, when I spent 11 hours on the road, lost my shoes, drove on the 
    					  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
						in transit?

>racetrack during the 3 hour wait to get out of the parking lot, etc. etc, 
>etc.  I was through with the Dead, the scene, the whole 9 yards.  I 
>skipped JFK (last show) in my own back yard though I had tickets - I 
>wasn't going to any more shows.

Bart's mention of Foxboro sent chills up my spine. I've been to two shows
there (Dylan/Dead and Los Lobos/Dead), and both were less than optimal
experiences. Now I'm sure other folks have had experiences that were major
disasters compared to mine, and I've had some worse incidents myself, but
most of those I don't associate with the venue itself.

The Dylan/Dead wasn't bad itself, but the ride into Foxboro is a
dehumanizing experience (to say nothing of torturing the family vehicle).
This was a July 4 show, and after the show, lots of folks were into (very)
amateur pyrotechnics. Having a bottle rocket whiz past your nose is not
the best concert aftermath, I can tell you. 

This wasn't all that bad. The next show was a worse experience. We got
a late start, and the traffic was ridiculous. We were in stadium traffic
for 4 hours. We saw Los Lobos. Yeah. We saw them come in on the chopper,
and later, we saw them leave by chopper. It passed right over head. The
traffic crowd gave a coolective groan when the Dead choppered in.

We got there just before the end of the first set, and after they took
a short break, we listened to some of the second set, and left during
drums. Why, you may ask? Well, our babysitter, who was supposed to come at
noon and stay over night, came at 2:30 and told us she had to go home at
midnight because she was working at 7am the next day. So to get home before
she abandoned our children, we had to leave midset. Needless to say, I
was not a happy driver. It still pisses me off so much I don't even want
to hear a tape to find out what I missed.

Now granted, ya can't blame the venue for rotten circumstances. But the
access, ambience, and area of Foxboro did little to help.

So, what's your vote for Godforsaken venue of all time.?

2nd place: Worchester Centrum - rainy night, one door opens at 7:30 for
8pm concert. Hour wait at will-call window for agency-purchased rip-offs
($80 a ticket - we got shut out, and were desperate to see one show)
in the rain. Totally soaked to the bone. Great show, but after going to
the Centrum several times, I am convinced that the place has the worst
cattle-car mentality toward concert-goers of any place I've been.

Matt
ODBC: What's the worst place Neil has played?
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From: jko@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Re: JGB Haloween Taper Tix?
In-reply-to: Your message of 09 Oct 92 20:03:43 +0000.
             <1b4oivINNi72@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:16:19 GMT


As far as I know,  there won't be taping tickets for the Hallowe'en show
and they probably won't allow equipment inside - Remember this is a JGB
show, not a dead show (JGB does not allow taping).  And I'm pretty sure
that JGB has never sold tix though Mail-Order before, but then again,
there haven't been many BIG Jerry shows...

JAMES
From: blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis)
Subject: Jose~ Feliciano (sp?)
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:33:21 GMT

I was listening to the radio and caught a cool acoustic guitar version of
"light my fire" by Jose~ Feliciano.  Does anybody know anything about this
guy?  He was from a few years back, self taught and I assume has some
albums out.... from ages ago.

Barb
From: eds@po.CWRU.Edu (Ethan D. Siegel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: The Venue from Hell (& RUMOR :)
Date: 14 Oct 1992 20:20:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Worst venue? 

Hmmm.  Crap Center comes to mind, but Albany Knickerbocker is 
worst in my mind.  First, it replaces one of the best venues,
Saratoga.  Second, the security is reminiscent of the Third
Reich, and they REALLY make you wait to get in like a bunch
of cattle, much more than any show I've ever been to.  Bottom
line, the sound also stinks in the Knickerbocker, I don't see
how they can make it sound like the band is playing underwater.
I've been disappointed with most experiences with the Knick, but
of course, I'm too hooked to not go.  Oh well.

Ethan
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re:  Jose~ Feliciano (sp?)
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:49:16 GMT


|I was listening to the radio and caught a cool acoustic guitar version of
|"light my fire" by Jose~ Feliciano.  Does anybody know anything about this
|guy?  He was from a few years back, self taught and I assume has some
|albums out.... from ages ago.

My Goddess!  Am I getting that old?

Jose's version came out shortly after the Doors version.
He is blind and put out several albums in the late 60's 
and early 70's.  Jose's version of "Light My Fire" was
a bigger hit than the Door's version at the time.

Steve-II

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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: 500 Years of Genocide/AIM
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:04:25 GMT

tomas,

i hear you, it's hard to not speak up when there's a burr under your
saddle (i also promised myself, remember?).  more power to you,
brother!

yeah, if we hadn't all but exterminated the sioux and sister
nations, i wouldn't be sitting here with a Lakota 386/DX with a Red
Cloud VGA, buffalo mouse, and XTREE-pro-blackhillsGold!  that's
progress for it's own sake, man, and WORTH the price :<-

don't apologize about the poem from hell.  now it can be said that i
went outside during that (i was deTERmined to find where they were
selling the armbands, and DID), but not before Susan Shown-Harjo
(who has accomplished a lot of important things, even if she's not a
poet) made the comment to the effect "HOMESTAKE what's yours is
MINE!", or was it "what yours is HOMESTAKE MINE'S" ... it was
appropos, even tho i don't recall sic

steve is entitled to his opinion, we're entitled to debate it, and
personally i get satisfaction knowing that even if his heart wasn't
in the right place (IMPO), his wallet was, and his money went toward
a good cause.  so let him puke, thankfully i wasn't sitting next to
him :) we each get out of something that which we bring to it, not
unlike a dead show!

lara
--<-@
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET
Subject: Whatever happened to Calico??
Reply-To: GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:32:19 GMT

        I'm sort of afraid to ask, but where is Calico these days.
I havn't seen her for a few years.  Most OGs have an interesting story
or two about her.
        As far as nudity stories go, Once in Ventura, about '85, most of
the people had cleared the dusty 'field' ( rodeo part ) leaving 1 naked
and severly tripping man running amok in the dust.  There were a few police
on hand but did not seem in the mood to end the spectacle. Out from
backstage comes an organization type guy who corrals that doggie and
'escorts him out of danger.  While were talking Ventura ( snif snif )
the year they held the Olympics  a buncha people were sitting together in
the stands together, and after every song, they would all stand up
holding their placards high announcing the SCORE for the previous song.
I saw 9.6s and 9.7's but the band never scored a perfect 10.
For me the day was a 10.  After the show, my son and me were actually
CHASED out of that stream to the north that dumps into the river by
a SHARK! who probably thought our feet and the splashing were dinner.
I thought I was 'seeing things' but I ran like hell just in case.  As it
turns out, his mother and several others saw it too, but they thought
they were 'seeing things'.  I never spook or see things that aren't
supposed to be there, and the general opinion was that it really happened.

        As far as venues from hell, let's not forget the zealous law
enforcement work by the boyz in blue. ( No, not Jerry ) at Lawler event
center in Reno.  In Nevada, bud is a felony and horror stories like the
judge saying "Seven seeds, seven years boy" abound.  Several huge 6-6
cops were working the stands. They would sneak up behind people smoking
cigarettes or anything else and wait.  I saw several get dragged away
for an extended Nevada vacation.

How about a New Potato Caboose -> St. Steve -> '11 -> Cosmic Charlie -> Dew.
with a Watchtower -> Werewolves oncore.  I'm not hard to please,
especially if they open the first set with Mountains of the Moon.

I need several miracles by now.     Joe Gladstone>
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: More Glambert-like metaphors
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:17:31 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Oct7.160120.15717@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com writes:
>say, toy soldiers, the "truck kids" try to run him out.  

	Yeah, right, we're all just a bunch of babies playing with toys.
None of this costs money or takes _time_ or _resources_ so there shouldn't
be any _consideration_ or *rules* or anything.

	There's a reason for newsgroups.  Part of that reason is to keep
the volume down to some manageable level, both so that you can read a 
group and not have to filter through megabytes of crap, and so that poor
news admins like myself don't have to devote a whole goddam fujitsu to your
toy soldiers.

	You wanna play with soldiers, go form a toy soldier newsgroup.  We're
playing with trucks.



Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: STAFFORD@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
Subject: Bobby's AKA
Reply-To: STAFFORD@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:47:27 GMT

Rumour has it that Bobby Weir's real name is Robert Hall.
Xref: sparky rec.music.gdead:17987 ba.music:1747 rec.music.misc:25034
From: eli@cisco.com (Steve Elias)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead,ba.music,rec.music.misc
Subject: fwded msg from Hal
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:07:30
Organization: cisco Routers-R-us Systems, CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: regal.cisco.com
In-reply-to: "daniel j. slive"'s message of Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:15:31 GMT



"hal has a sick computer and until that is fixed I
 will be temporarily cut off from my account; please
 refrain from emailing me until then!  The Papa John
 Creach interview is nearly typed in and ready to
 post . . . Prairie Prince broke his collarbone in
 a bike accident a short time ago, which is why
 the band isn't playing BLOWS right now (no time
 to train a new drummer).  Prairie was asleep in
 his car at the Vet benefit, so I will interview
 him at a later date.  Darby is opening tonight's
 show at the Catalyst with her new band, so I
 will refrain from interviewing her tonight and do
 Mr. Kantner instead--at least that is the plan as
 she likes to save her voice.  All of this is
 obviously subject to change with these guys!

 Since I mentioned SF to Paul and Prairie is
 back (somewhat tenderly), maybe a BLOWS tonight.
 I'll post the Papa John and Gretchen Creach
 interview as soon as my computer is fixed and
 I don't have to mess with this weird line editor
 crap (oh for vi again).  So the Creach interview
 shortly followed by Paul, Prairie, and Darby,
 roughly in that order.  See ya tonight!"
From: augy@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Jeffrey Ehlinger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Cool "Green" T company?
Date: 12 Oct 92 05:05:41 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)8338-616


     The gentleman asking about this shirt, will find it being sold at 
"Campmor" an outdoor store in Paramus NJ. If you want the address, post 
in rec.outdoors 

==========================================================================
** Mail to: Augy@toz.buffalo.ny.us        <<<Tower of Zot>>> Bflo, NY   **
** The bus came by and I got on, that's when it all began!              **
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From: "CORY D. ABBAS" <CDA001@acad.drake.edu>
Subject: neticated
Reply-To: CDA001@acad.drake.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:34:41 GMT

i was wonderin' if some kind soul that had the knowledge would
send me the email address to send band names and songs they
can play.  the reason why is cause i got this really cool band
that wants to play on the tape.

please send me the info and thanks in advance.


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|Cory D. Abbas				         "My head hurts,               |
|Internet:              	                  My feet stink,               |
|cda001@acad.drake.edu	          	      And I don't love Jesus."         |
|Des Moines, Iowa				       -Reverend Jimmy Buffet  |
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From: Frederick.A.Ringwald@dartmouth.edu (Frederick A. Ringwald)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: JGB Haloween Taper Tix?
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:05:57 GMT
 <1992Oct9.220656.26859@sunspot.noao.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Oct9.220656.26859@sunspot.noao.edu>
brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:

> Oh really! So where did all these JBG tapes I have come from, those
> sneaky tapes, 'bout as slick as Diamondbacks:-) :-) :-)

I hate to tell you, but (gasp!) those are bootlegs. 

Dead tapes aren't bootlegs, of course: they can't be bootlegs, if the
band ALLOWS you to make them! They even make special provision for it
it their shows! 

But JGB band unpublished concert tapes are genuine bootlegs. ;-)

fred.ringwald@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re:  Dead-Flames Digest #353
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:24:48 GMT


|Yes N.A's did not coexist in total peace but counting coupt(sp?)
|was not exactly a savage means of confrontation.               

if we are only supposed to be politically correct about 
the indians that fit the rationalizations, do not research
the Toltecs.

steve



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From: S0SKAG01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: S0SKAG01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:11:13 GMT


Haven't posted to this group for awhile, but the question "What got you
listening to the Dead" can't be resisted.

Knew about their music but hadn't heard it. Live/Dead was released, and
the local newspaper here in Louisville reviewed it with these lines:
"Dark Star is to rock what the Taj Mahal is to tombstones."

That did it.

I used to listen to that recording lying on the floor with ear phones on.
Heck, I still do.

But i was disappointed by their studio albums. When Workingmen's Dead was
released, I really felt they had left all that gorgeous complexity and
filagree behind - didn't care for it at all. Then I heard what they did with th
ose kind of numbers on Europe '72 and I was back in the rink. Couldn't abide
Donna live (NJ '76 and '77), but they simply have continued to make some pretty
powerful art for close to 30 years. It's the openess to error and sponteneity
0hat does it for me. I could care less about the 'scene', but I would
submit that these guys will go down as great artists of our century. This
stuff just never gets old, though the players (and the listeners) may.

Skaggs

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