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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Dave Stewart (was Re: Steve Hillage: Guitar-Centered Albums?)
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:20:17 GMT

abgem@stdvax (Gary Mosier) writes:

>BTW, got to see Sinclair a week ago in B'more - excellent show, don't miss
>it if he's in your area. He was joined onstage by some members (keys, drums
>guitar) of a local band called However (they put a couple of lp's out in the
>early 80's that are available through Wayside) to do Matching Mole's 
>"Caroline", Hatfield's "Share It" and "It Didn't Matter Anyway", and 
>Caravan's "A.A.Man", "Back to Herne Bay Front", and "Winter Wine". An 
>excellent slice of Canterbury nostalgia.

Gary, 

your newreader puts a bogus reply address on your posts, so I can't 
reply directly - if you can't fix it you might try including your
email address in you (non)sig. 

Anyway, I tried replying to ask if you or anyone you know got a tape of
the performance you mention. I could probably offer something equally 
interesting in trade. 

  - malcolm@wrs.com
From: pvallado@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paolo Valladolid )
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: King Crimson Boxed Set vs. Studio albums
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:43:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Should I get _The Great Deceiver_ boxed set or the three studio
albums from that era (_Lark's Tongue in Aspic_,_Red_,_Starless and
Bible Black_)?  Please state the reason for your choice. What does
the boxed set have that the three studio albums don't have and vice
versa.

I can't afford both options at this time.

Thanks,
Paolo
From: v134pfzd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (dan(n))
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: I have this Soft Machine tape...
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

As the subject line says...

It's a gift from a friend, who got it from a friend, who....

It's apparently a Peel Sessions release, called "The Soft Machine Turns On" (?)

Could some kind soul please date this for me, and tell me what the songs are?

E-mail or post, thanks!!

-dan(n)
"Never drive a car when you're dead." -Tom Waits
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Steve Hillage: Guitar-Centered Albums?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 05:46:06 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:

> Since it's sort of midway between the techno stuff he's doing now and 
> his work in the 70's this may be good advice for Lazlo. 
>
> Based on Lazlo's tastes and leanings towards dance music I'd also
> suggest GREEN, which is a bit funky at times and very nicely produced. 

Really, Malc, you make it sound like I probably wouldn't like any music
that doesn't have a drum machine in it, which I assure you isn't the case.
Why just the other day, I bought this great CD by a band called
Pink...uhm...Floyd, I think, called "Far Side Of The Moon".  I think it's
great, and I bet there wasn't a Roland TR808 within ten miles of the
studio when they cut that one!    

(No really, I finally got around to buying it again.  'DSOTM' was one of
the many albums I sold when I got my CD player, but never got around to
buying on disc.  It took a Harvest pressing in the used bin to do it, but
it was worth the wait.)   

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: John.Hirsch <John.Hirsch@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Tony Banks vs Keith Emerson
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:19:19 GMT

In <Bz5w2C.6z1@DMI.USherb.CA> lachm00@DMI.USherb.CA (MARTIN LACHANCE) writes:

>  But I can't play Emerson stuff just with a five months experience...  I
>have to admit that I admire Banks, but for his composition talent, not
>for his skills.

  Actually, in an interview with Banks, he said that he really doesn't think
of himself as a keyboard player as much as a composer.  He definitely enjoys
writing more than playing.

>Martin Lachance
>lachm00@dmi.usherb.ca
-- 
John.Hirsch@mixcom.com

Hi there.
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From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: KORG CD OFFER - USA ADDRESS!
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:13:59 GMT


First, thanks to the 2 dozen people that flooded my mailbox
re-requesting the USA address...!

Anyway, it's

Department CDO
Korg USA
89 Frost St.
Westbury, NY
11590
USA

Price is $3.50.

I don't know anything else about the offer other than what I posted,
so please don't mail me with any more questions! It's only $3.50, so
take the big financial gamble if you're even quasi-interested.

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca



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From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
Subject: Re: Hawkwind
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:35:06 GMT

In article <7531@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk> simon@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk (Simon) writes:
>"Electric Teepee" (available on CD) is just about the best I've ever heard,
>closely followed by the already-mentioned "Hall of the Mountain Grill" (does
>anyone know why that one has such an odd name?).

Well, _Electric Teepee_, while good, is not my favorite. 

As for _Hall of the Mountain Grill_, it is both a play off of _Hall of
the Mountain King_, and a reference to the Mountain Grill, where Bob
Calvert & Dave Brock used to eat.

-- 
Joseph Malcolm				jmalcolm@sura.net		
SURAnet Operations			+1 301 982 4600
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Song listing from Tull flute solo book
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:34:38 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1gnqqhINNqia@bigboote.WPI.EDU> martino@wpi.WPI.EDU (Robert Paul Martino Jr) writes:
|OK, here's the soong listing for the book "Flute solos created by Ian
|Anderson of Jethro Tull", published by either Cherry Lane Music, Co.
|or Crysalis Music Group:
|
|Baker St. Muse- Crash Barrier Waltzer
|Big Dipper
|Bouree
|Bungle in the Jungle
|The Chequered Dlag (Dead or Alive)
|Cross Eyed Mary
|Cup of Wonder
|Fire at Midnight
|From Later
|Living in the Past
|Look into the Sun
|My God
|Nothing is Easy
|Passion Play Edit
|Thick as a Brick edit
|The Third Hooray
|The Whistler
|The Witch's Promise

Hmmm.  This list doesn't even contain what is my favorite flute solo. That
would be the solo from Locomotive Breath.

-- 
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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: Welcome back my friends to the Kaye that never ends.
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:00:30 GMT

Don Becker (grendel@jaflrn.UUCP) wrote:

: > But then I like Tony Kaye's playing, too, so what do I know? :)
:  
: Well, I always liked his Hammond skills on the first three albums he did 
: with Yes -- it's a great deal better than his more recent "Who ran the 
: electric current through my keyboards?" style.

He's just taking the organ one step further. I think Si is great.
The sound just pours over you in waves. I can't imagine what it would
be like live.
  
: Does anyone have any stuff he did with Badger, Detective, and Badfinger that 
: points to where he lost it?

I don't think he lost it, he just got in the rock flashy organist 
style. A different route. Check out Our Song or one of the lesser
known Yes pieces like A Venture -- he *can* play.

He just doesn't shove it down everyone's throats!

:)

His 90125 and Onion solos were really good pieces. Did he do a 
Big Generator solo!?

Scott


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From: abgem@stdvax (Gary Mosier)
Subject: Re: Dave Stewart (was Re: Steve Hillage: Guitar-Centered Albums?)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center - Robotics Lab
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:59:00 GMT

In article <1gn5qgINNfpl@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, stevep@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Steve Pearce) writes...

[Stewart/Gaskin stuff deleted]

>:	2. In the liner notes (OK, CD booklet) for the Complete National
>:	   Health, Dave Stewart said they initially turned down Pip Pyle
>:	   because he didn't want Hatfield and the North, MK II.  Isn't
>:	   that what he really ended up with anyway ?????  Comments ?????
> 
>I feel the first album is quite different to HATN, "Of Queues and Cures" is 
>perhaps a regression but still a suberb album (I really like Pips' drum solo :-) ).
> 
>Another poster mentioned a third album, I was aware of only two. Could you please
>elaborate.

The 3rd N.H. album is "D.S. Al Coda", a posthumous tribute to keyboardist 
and composer Alan Gowen, who appeared on the first Health album and also 
was the leader of the band Gilgamesh, which put out a couple of lp's. I saw 
Health in the Wash. D.C. area in the early 80's, and Alan died of lukemia 
shortly after this tour (Stewart was playing with Bruford at the time). 
Some of the pieces on "D.S. Al Coda" were performed on that tour. After 
Alan's death, Stewart rejoined the band to record some of Gowen's recent 
compositions, of which many the band had great familiarity already. "D.S. 
Al Coda" appeared somewhere around late '81 or early '82, and forms the 
latter 1/3 of the N.H. "Complete" 2-CD set.

--- Gary ("I love Healthy music") Mosier
From: martino@wpi.WPI.EDU (Robert Paul Martino Jr)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: RE Jethro Tull sheet music
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:38:06 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <102174@netnews.upenn.edu> (Ian Glazer) writes:
>Could anyone tell me where I could find some Jethro Tull sheet music 
for flute?
>thanks in advance
>
>Ian Glazer	ian@eniac.seas.upenn.edu		

I have a book called "Flute solos created by Ian Anderson of Jethro
Tull" published by either Cherry Lane Music Co. or a division of
Chrysalis (those are the company names on the back).  The book is
pretty good, a lot of it is simply the sung melody of a particular
song but all the solos are included too, such as the very nice
middle section of My God.  The book was published right around
Songs from the Wood so there are no solos from songs after that
album.  

Chord progressions are included with each song, and there are even
special notations for Ian things like fluttertone, overblowing to
get harmonics and singing into the flute.  The solos (even very
complex, difficult ones) all seem very accurate compared to the
actual recorded solos played by Ian on each song.

Some stuff is easy, some very difficult (I've been playing flute for
about 11 years).  I've only seen it once and grabbed it then.
If anyone is interested in a listing of songs in the book I'll be
glad to post it.

Rob
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Steve Hillage: Guitar-Centered Albums?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 05:33:01 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:

>> Hillage cowrote and coproduced two tracks on The Orb's first album
>> 'Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld' ("Supernova At The End Of The
>> Universe" and "Back Side Of The Moon") 
>
> I am confused since on my (American) copy of Adventures Beyond The
> Ultraworld there are no such tracks! 

"Supernova" should be.  I thought the two tracks Mercury they cut from the
UK release (to make it fit on a single disc in the US) were "Back Side Of
The Moon" and "Spanish Castles In Space", yes?  Does yours have something
different?

> at Adventures there is another (20+ minutes) track cowritten by Hillage
> - "the huge ever growing pulsating brain that rules from the centre of
> ultraworld". 

That's interesting -- my copy of the UK 2CD version of 'Adventures' lists
everyone on the planet *but* Hillage as cowriters of "Pulsating Brain":
[Alex] Paterson, [Jimi] Cauty, [Minnie] Ripperton, [Someone] Rudolph,
[Someone Else] Darlow, [Steve] Lipson, [Bruce] Wooley, and [Trevor] Horn,
to be exact.  In fact there's no mention of Hillage in the credits of any
of the versions of "Pulsating Brain" I have here.

> Could you please explain the difference between the version of
> Adventures I got and yours? 

Yours doesn't sound like any that I've ever heard of, from what you
describe.  Maybe this should go to email, but what's the catalog number and
track listing? 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: ian@watusi.seas.upenn.edu (Ian M Glazer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: RE Jethro Tull sheet music
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:33:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Could anyone tell me where I could find some Jethro Tull sheet music for flute?
thanks in advance

*********************************************************
Ian Glazer	ian@eniac.seas.upenn.edu		*
"Sometimes there is strength and sometimes weakness;	*
Sometimes one is up and sometimes one is down." Lao Tzu	*
*********************************************************
From: bobn@hawkwind.central.Sun.COM (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Steve Hillage: Guitar-Centered Albums?
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:44:35 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article <MARKG.92Dec15034730@rigel.cs.pdx.edu>, markg@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Mark Gay) writes:
|> Fish Rising is also worth a listen.

A number of folks have given a thumbs up to Kahn: Space Shanty.  It has
both Hillage and Dave Stewart.  It hails from about 1972, which would
place it at about the interesting point in Egg (when they developed a
little emotion).  If my copy would arrive, I would give it a review.

Bob

-- 
Bob Netherton                        | You see the signs, they're always there
Sun Microsystems                     | But you know you never care
Dallas, Tx                           | You are always looking for another reason
bob.netherton@central.Sun.COM        | ==== Hawkwind, Paradox
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From: kalang@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (kenneth.lang)
Subject: Re: fish's new single
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:31:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.084553.22832@chemeng.ed.ac.uk> johnsc@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk writes:
>BTW _something in the air_ was released in britian, however it did not get released when fish wanted it to be released (near the general election) and it never got any air play- because some englishman somewhere thought it was revolutionary. (this song was also a cover by someone a can't remember).


Thunderclap Newman from the album/CD "Hollywood Dream"

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From: jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: The Melodically Challenged
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:03:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Language Analysis Center

In article <1992Dec12.193332.28135@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:

> Has Emerson ever used sampling? (I'm not familiar with his solo
> work or even ELP! :))
>

I'm fairly sure that much of _Emerson, Lake, and Powell_ is done with
samplers, esp. "Learning to Fly" and "Mars - Bringer of War".

Kevin



-- 
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Lead Programmer/Analyst/Keyboardist             | Lord Whorfin is supreme..."
Univ. of Pennsylvania Language Analysis Center  |  
3700 Market St, Suite 202  Phila, PA 19104      |       "Vita Non Jerk"
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In article ... kalang@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (kenneth.lang) writes:

   In article ... chrisley@oxford.ac.uk (Ronald L Chrisley) writes:
   >Has the song "Everdance" ever appeared on a Curved Air album (if so,
   >it's probably the same one as "Back Street Luv" appears on).
   Yes. Everdance and Back Street Luv appear on:
   Curved Air - Second Album,  released 1971. I have it on vinyl and its pretty
   good. 

``Pretty good''? I'd rank it as the definitive Air album. Checking someones
gout, I suppose. I found it as a Japanese import CD (note: I'm in the UK, not
the US). The liner notes were Japanese, but they had the English lyrics.

Well ... they had some lyrics. My guess was that they'd been transcribed by a
Japanese who knew a little English. Comparing them to the actual words induced
much hilarity -- shame I haven't got them with me now.

One a related note, I was finally driven to read T S Elliot's ``The Waste
Land'' while on holiday this summer gone (pressure of ``Consider Phlebas'' (SF,
Banks) and ``Small World'' (mainstream, Lodge)) [yes, yes, this isn't rec.-
arts.books, I have a point]. Imagine my surprise when part of the poem sounded
exactly like part of ``Piece of Mind'', which is the long track on side 2 of
the above album. Having 2nd Album on hand, I played it. Yup. The match cleared
up for me some words I'd always found obscure.

Funny how hauntings come in threes, innit?

[It's the passage that goes

    The river sweats		oil and tar
    .....
    Down Greenwich Reach	past the Isle of Dogs
]










--

Regards, Kers | "Once   I would have been glad   to have made your acquaintance
Renaissance:  | Now   I feel the danger   brought about   by circumstance."
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From: battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle)
Subject: Re:  Art Bears
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:10:40 GMT

I have all their albums and love them as much as YES however, Winter songs/
The world... is better.   They have a talent for making the music reflect the
lyrics.  VERY DARK. and powerful.  
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           ./'.|'.'||||\\|..    )*.*(    ..|//||||`.`|.`\.
        ./'..|'.|| |||||\```````  "  '''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\.
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   V    V         V          }' `\ /' `{          V         V    V
   `    `         `               U               '         '    '
                          (thanx to Amy Rich)



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From: piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Mike Taylor)
Subject: Re: Steve Hillage: Guitar-Centered Albums?
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-14278]: rs1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane Museum of Natural History
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:43:35 GMT

> after hearing Hillage's guitar work with The Orb and his System 7/777
> project and doing a little asking around, I picked up his album
> 'Rainbow Dome Music'. It's a great album, but more ambient than
> guitarry, and I'm more interested in hearing the guitar-sounding
> stuff right now. Any recommendations?

Well, I'm a bit late on most of this conversation, but I'll add my two cents
worth, which mostly corroborates everything else that has been said so far.
Check out _Fish Rising_, his first solo effort, Khan's _Space Shanty_ (one of
my absolute favorites), and Gong's _You_.  All three of these are classic
Hillage albums, IMO.  The opening cut of _Fish Rising_ is actually a cut from
the Khan sessions that didn't get used on _Space Shanty_.

Mike

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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Brand X in SAN FRANCISCO!
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:00:34 GMT

I haven't seen it yet myself, but a friend told me the latest ad
for the DNA club has in very small print at the bottom:

BRAND X, January 1, 1993

Which is great news to me! Now I don't have to drive to San Jose, unless
I'm so blown away by the show that I want to see them again. I think the
San Jose gig is about a week later, but I haven't seen that advertised 
either. I wish someone could get ahold of tour dates and post them, 
it'd be nice to know where else they'll be and when. 

  - Malcolm  
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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Steve Hillage: Guitar-Centered Albums?
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:32:03 GMT

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>> Since it's sort of midway between the techno stuff he's doing now and 
>> his work in the 70's this may be good advice for Lazlo. 
>>
>> Based on Lazlo's tastes and leanings towards dance music I'd also
>> suggest GREEN, which is a bit funky at times and very nicely produced. 

>Really, Malc, you make it sound like I probably wouldn't like any music
>that doesn't have a drum machine in it, which I assure you isn't the case.
>Why just the other day, I bought this great CD by a band called
>Pink...uhm...Floyd, I think, called "Far Side Of The Moon".  I think it's
>great, and I bet there wasn't a Roland TR808 within ten miles of the
>studio when they cut that one!    

It really wasn't intended as any kind of swipe or to intone that I think
dance oriented music is of a lesser or other value... I just meant what 
I said, that coming from the perspective of the stuff I know you listen 
to and the Orb and System 7 stuff you'd mentioned as a reference point.       
I know the lines are fine and blurred between these vague genres and 
I don't mean to suggest I think you wouldn't enjoy anything without 
a drum machine. I guess I was recalling how I froze a couple of weeks 
ago when trying to recommend you some Kevin Ayers you might enjoy. To me,  
having a sense of what someone likes is important in what I would suggest 
or recommend as listening material, and I try to base such things on 
a combination of my mindset and my perception of the tastes of the person
asking for pointers.  With that in mind, I do think the releases I mentioned 
would probably be a more appropriate starting point than Motivation Radio,
L, or Live Herald, or Open.

 - malcolm 
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