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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:55:00 GMT
Reply-To:     Harris Mantzaridis <CLFV14@VAXE.STRATHCLYDE.AC.UK>
From:         Harris Mantzaridis <CLFV14@VAXE.STRATHCLYDE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Ekloges UK-telika-apologismos
Comments: To: HELLAS <HELLAS@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

Files kai filoi geia sas,

Ta telika apotelesmata (651 edres se synolo 651) apo tis xtesines ekloges sthn
Bretania einai ta ekshs:

                  pososto   +- se sxesh   edres   +- edres se
                            me 1987               sxesh me 1987

Conservatives   :   43%        0%          336      -34
Labour          :   35%       +4%          271      +39
Lib. Democrats  :   18%       -5%           20       -2
loipa kommata   :                           24

Oi Tories paramenoyn sthn eksoysia me pleiopshfia 11 edrwn.

Sthn Skwtia oi edres twn kommatwn (symperilambanontai stis 651) einai:

                   edres   +- edres se
                           sxesh me 1987

Labour          :   49         0
Conservatives   :   11        +2
Lib. Democrats  :    9        -1
SNP             :    3        -1

Apo toys 651 boyleytes oi 59 einai gynaikes. Sygkekrimena 20 Tories,
36 Labour, 2 Lib. Democrats kai 1 (nomizw) SNP.

Sthn B.Irlandia to Sinn Fein exase thn monadikh edra poy kateixe o hgeths toy
Jerry Adams. Thn katelabe to SDLP me thn energh omws yposthriksh twn
filo-Agglwn. To Sinn Fein phre 400 pshfoys parapanw apo to SDLP, omws se
deyterh katametrhsh, h opoia egine kata "periergo" tropo arketh wra meta thn
prwth, h edra perase ston ypopshfio toy SDLP.

Stis prwtes toy dhlwseis meta thn anakoinwsh twn apotelesmatwn o John Major
emfanisthke poly diaforetikos apo thn Margaret Thatcher otan ekeinh nikhse stis
ekloges toy 1987. Sygkekrimena eipe "den tha agnohsw pote aytoys poy DEN me
pshfisan", milhse gia "ataksikh koinwnia" kai "paroxh iswn eykairiwn se oloys".
Akomh yposxethhke na mhn idiwtikopoihsei pote to ethniko systhma ygeias kai na
kanei oti mporei gia na bgalei thn oikonomia apo thn krish. Genika, edeikse
poly sygkrathmenos, kai epibebaiwse me ton tropo toy oti o Thatserismos anhkei
oristika sto parelthon. Mporoyme, pleon, na milame gia "Majorism"-kati san ton
Baldwin ths dekaetias toy '30, dhladh klassiko synthrhtiko xwris akrothtes kai
fanatismoys.

O Neil Kinnock perioristhke na ekfrasei thn lyph toy gia to apotelesma kai na
dhlwsei oti tha anakoinwsei perissotera thn Deytera. To pithanotero einai oti
tha paraiththei apo thn arxhgia twn Labour.

O Paddy Ashdown ekane nyksh gia kapoioy eidoys makroprothesmh sygklish h'
symmaxia Labour-Lib.Democrats gia tis ekloges poy tha ginoyn se pente xronia
kai apedwse thn nikh twn Synthrhtikwn sthn adynamia twn Labour na peisoyn gia
thn politikh toys.

Ayrio o John Major tha anakoinwsei thn synthesh ths neas kybernhshs. Anamenetai
oti tha einai arketa diaforetikh apo thn prohgoymenh, kathws 7 ypoyrgoi ths
aperxomenhs kybernhshs exasan thn boyleytikh toys edra (to idio epathe kai o
proedros twn Conservatives Christopher Patton), enw tha symperilhfthoyn kai
polla nea proswpa poy yposthriksan ton Major.

Oson afora thn aneksarthsia ths Skwtias, oi Tories dhlwsan oti "anoigei
kainoyrgio kefalaio" sthn politikh toys kai oti "allagh mporei na syzhththei
kai dhmopshfisma na ginei" arkei h Skwtia na parameinei sto UK. Koinoboylio sto
Edimboyrgo mallon apokleietai. O kosmos edw sthn Skwtia einai apogohteymenoi
kai orgismenoi giati "those bastards down there will continue to rule us
against our will" (oi Tories phran molis 25% sthn Skwtia) kai h ekstrateia gia
aneksarthsia problepetai na synexistei. Merikoi milane akomh kai gia genikh
apergia kai isws ayto ekshgei thn theamatikh allagh sthn stash twn Tories panw
sto thema.

As perasoyme twra stoys logoys ths nikhs twn Synthrhtikwn.

An kaneis riksei mia psyxraimh matia stoys arithmoys tha dei oti o Kinnock den
ta phge asxhma: oi Labour aykshsan thn dynamh toys kata 39 boyleytes,
syrriknwsan thn pleiopshfia twn Tories se 11 molis edres kai kataferan na
perasoyn ta mhnymata toys sthn megalh pleiopshfia toy kosmoy. Oi
sfygmometrhseis poy ginontan kata thn diarkeia ths proeklogikhs ekstrateias
mexri kai ligo prin thn anakoinwsh twn prwtwn apotelesmatwn toys efernan sthn
prwth thesh (an kai xwris na petyxainoyn apolyth pleiopshfia) kai edeixnan oti
tha ethetan telika telos sthn dekatriaxronh diakybernhsh ths xwras apo toys
Synthrhtikoys. Ti synaibei loipon; Ti allakse thn teleytaia stigmh; Kai giati
h apotyxia toys ayth exei tosh shmasia;

H htta toys einai HTTA SRATHGIKHS giati, para thn poly kalh ekstrateia toys,
para thn krish ths oikonomias, para thn apokhryksh palaioterwn thesewn toys
(p.x. monomerhs afoplismos), para thn yiothethsh synthrhtikhs grammhs sta
oikonomika, DEN KATAFERAN na peisoyn to eklogiko swma oti tha mporoysan na
kybernhsoyn kalytera apo toys Tories. Akoysthkan polles apopseis gia ta aitia,
apo tis pio aplo.i.kes, opws oti h kalokairia eynohse thn megalh proseleysh
stis kalpes, mexri tis pio akraies, opws oti oi Bretanoi exoyn pleon oristika
kai ametaklhta allaksei psyxologia kai exoyn desei tis tyxes toys sto arma twn
Tories. Epishs, polla mporei na ypothesei kaneis. Mporei apla oi Labour na
ksekinhsan apo poly xamhla kai na mhn ta kataferan na strepsoyn oloklhro
to 8% twn pshfoforwn poy xreiazontan pros to meros toys.
Mporei na fobhse h "arxhgikh" emfanish toy Kinnock h' oi fhmes gia
aykshmenh forologia. H' mporei o kosmos na peisthke oti h kakh poreia ths
oikonomias ofeiletai kyriws se ekswgeneis paragontes kai oxi se kybernhtika
lathh. Mporei, telos, na ftaiei o agrios polemos poy egine enantion twn Labour
apo megalh merida toy typoy tis teleytaies dyo-treis meres.

H apanthsh gia to ti telika egine einai poly dyskolo na dothei kai isws tha
prepei na anazhththei se kapoion syndyasmo olwn twn parapanw ypothesewn. Pantws
ton spoydaiotero rolo epaikse to eklogiko systhma (monoedriko-pleiopshfiko)
to opoio diastreblwse entelws thn la.i.kh etymhgoria kai oysiastika metetrepse
thn pshfo pros ta mikrotera kommata se pshfo yper toy prwtoy kommatos.

To apwtero mhnyma twn eklogwn aytwn einai oti h nea kybernhsh tha prepei
na meiwsei tis antitheseis anamesa stis diafores koinwnikes omades kai na
peisei me prakseis oti einai kybernhsh olwn twn katoikwn ayths ths xwras kai
oxi mono mias mikrhs, sxetika, oikonomikhs kai koinwnikhs elit. Gia na to
petyxei, tha prepei na epidiwksei thn koinwnikh synainesh kai ton dialogo. An
den to praksei, h epikrathsh allwn politikwn dynamewn (oxi aparaithta
diamorfwmenwn se kommatikoys sxhmatismoys aythn thn stigmh) einai apla thema
xronoy...

Teleiwnontas, tha hthela na pw oti to 1992 mporei aneta na thewrhthei mia apo
tis pio "eklogikes" xronies, kathws ekloges exoyn programmatistei na ginoyn
(kai merikes exoyn hdh ginei) se perissoteres apo 14 xwres se oloklhro ton
kosmo.

Ayta htan ta teleytaia nea apo thn "maxh ths Bretanias".
Geia kai xara sas

Xarhs

Strathclyde Univ.
Bioengineering
Glasgow-UK


Y.G. Teleytaia nea: ekrhksh bombas shmeiwthhke prin apo ligo sto kentro toy
Londinoy poly konta sto Xrhmatisthrio. Yparxoyn 2 nekroi kai 24 traymaties.
Epishs proklhthhkan megales ylikes zhmies. H astynomia eidopoihthhke me
thlefwnhma poy egine 20 lepta prin apo thn ekrhksh, alla den prolabe na
ekkenwsei thn perioxh. Yparxoyn fhmes oti alles 3 bombes exoyn ekragei se
diafora shmeia toy Londinoy. Mexri stigmhs kaneis den exei analabei thn
eythynh, pisteyetai omws oti einai h apanthsh toy IRA sto apotelesma twn
eklogwn.
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