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From: doreen@svl.cdc.com (Doreen Matsuzaki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Wednesday comments
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:53:59 GMT

Yesterday's show is just another proof that all Carly cares about is
herself.  She goes to visit Alice and no question at all about how
her trip to NY was or how Jennifer is doing.  My goodness, she is
supposedly Jenn's best-friend-in-the-whole-wide-world and she doesn't
even bother to ask about her?  Okay, okay, so maybe they talk to each
other on the phone which we never happen to see, but my goodness, no
small talk about Alice's trip?  Just right into that durned Van of
hers that she wants desperately to further her own ego.

Just when I got all peeved up, Bo goes and mentions Hope!!  Yes, some
continuity!  I mentioned a while ago that I thought that Hope was a
cop, and finally our own roBozo cop says that becomming a cop seems
right since Hope was one.  At least Abdulla wasn't in the kitchen at
the time, or she would've turned the discussion back to herself again.

So, Bo's a cop.  Question:  would any of you feel safe with him protecting
the streets of your neighborhood?

Well, now I'm going back to being a neurotic bride-to-be.  I find this
state of mine lends itself nicely to yelling profanities at the TV
these days. :-)

-- yayayayaya

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:23:55 EDT
From: stacey bronstein <SMB128@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Charlotte Ross -- more info

Holly Gagnier played one of the Cassie Callisans on OLTL and Chelsea Field
was on that show about the four young nurses who lived in a house together with
Suzanne PLeschette as a "dorm mother" type...Nightengales...I think...
                                   stacey
From: er1r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Gerard Raymont)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AW: Jenna is dead meat!!!
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:22:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.YeWfO7O00Uh_04Ckxk
Organization: Junior, Metallurgy and Materials Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Count me in!!!!!!!!!  Oh, do you suppose there would be room for a
little bit of torture equipment?

Holly
From: mmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R - Custody Fight
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:20:39 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <XX.8301.21838.713542492@XX.QMAIL> czo84228@dcsc.dla.mil (Kevin L. Wright,IPCC,x2233,) writes:
$
$Scott wants to maintain some sense of stability, which Lauren seeks to
$disrupt.  She wants to be a mother to Scott Jr. in every way.  That's OK,
$to a point.
$
$Sheila stole the child, yes.  Almost killed Lauren and Molly, yes.  No
$denial of that at all.  But ask yourself this question:  How did Sheila
$slip in to put her plot in motion in the first place?  Think carefully,
$and you'll see my point.
$
$This custody battle could actually work against Lauren, for one reason:
$Paul.  His continued braindead involvement could be made a valid issue,
$if Scott really wanted John Silva to play dirty.  I think he should, because    ~
$$                                                    
$Lauren has been in serious need of a reality check for years.  You'd think
$after all the perils "Pauline" has been in would have taught her something,
$but it hasn't.
$
$What I'd like to see:  Lauren lose her bid for custody and be forced to
$realize that you don't always get what you want WHENEVER you want it.
$She needs some humility, and has for years.

I agree.  Like I said before, Lauren wants to have her cake and eat it, too.
Sure she bore the kid.  But she's going about parading all these men in front
of scott and he's just supposed to do nothing.  She kisses Brad in front of
Scott. She parades Paul in front of scott all the time.  When Shiela was alive
she didn't have any problems slobbering over Scott at all.  What's the 
difference now?  She's almost like Victor wantin what she can't have.  I think
that's BS.  Besides Scott has done everything to make that boy's life stable.
It ain't like he's a horrible father.  I think the entire custody battle is
stupid.  Scott is doing an excellent job as dad so there's really no contest.

to 

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out of hell he will reveal SCREAMIN DOWN THE ROAD IN A BATMOBILE!!!!!!!"
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From: riddle@brahms.udel.edu (Tammy Riddle)
Subject: DOOL:  Finally found SOW!!!!
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:30:40 GMT

Wow, I finally found it, but there wasn't much info in it.  There were a
couple of interesting articles about Michael Easton (the bad-boy of DOOL)
and Mary Beth Evans' play.

To sum up Michael's article, he just wanted people to hear his side of the
story.  He said he tried to be true to the character of Tanner as best as
he could.  He has lost the "privilege" of being allowed to go up to the
executive offices and can't say a certain four-letter word on set any
longer.  He never really trashed TPTB of DOOL, but said they tried to make
him do things that were totally out of character.  One of his examples was
about his hair.  He said that Tanner couldn't afford to cut his hair if he
didn't have enough money to eat, but if they wrote it into the script that
he had to get his hair cut to get a certain type of job, than that would be
different.  He was also upset that TPTB tried to force him to take speech
lessons to change his voice.  He told him it's his voice and that's what
you get.  Michael said that RKK told him that he [Michael] reminded him of
what he went through on AW.

As for Mary Beth, she is really exciting about doing the play.  She was
called by the play's producers because they knew of her work on DOOL.  She
describes her character, Ellie, as "really lively and a lot of fun.  Kayla
became very 'un-fun' my last year on DAYS.  I was very interested in doing
a comedy, because it had been so long since I played anybody who laughed."

Liz already posted the ratings.  Sorry Tim, but Patsy's return couldn't
help them.

******
PERSONAL APPEARANCES

Drake Hogestyn is appearing two places.

Saturday, Aug. 22, he is playing in the Hollywood Stars Baseball Game. 
The game is being held at Dodgers Stadium, and the cost is free *IF* you
purchase a ticket for the Dodgers game that follows.  For information call
(213) 224-1500.

Sunday, September 20, he is appearing at the Houston House Beautiful Show
being held at the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston, TX.  For
information call (214) 929-4848.

******
According to SOM (I had one for last week yesterday, oops!), there are
THREE more new people joining the cast of DOOL.  J. Cynthia Brooks starts
on August 26 as Taylor McCall, and she will be Bo's new partner (so much
for Willie).  This week, which has probably already happened since I
haven't watched in a while, Kelly Andrus joins as Bridget, and Richard
Amend will begin appearing as Quinn.

That's it.  Later,

--Peachy
  
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From: SECBU@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Just a test!
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:41:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Aug12.173652.11799@cs.rit.edu>, joanne@cs.rit.edu (Joanne
DeFazio) says:
>
>I have enjoyed reading GH news (however few there are) for a year now and
>would like to post every once in a while.  So I'm sending this test to see
>if it's possible.  Someone please
>acknowledge.  Thanks!
>
>Joanne
>"Oh, I wish I were in the land of cacti......"
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Please have at it!!
Receiving you here in sunny Menlo Park, Califrisco, Joanne.

Since I am here, I guess I will say something about our Soap.

On Entertainment Tonight, (or some other Magazine show), the
other night they did a feature on GH.

It appears that most of the scenes are shot in a building in
New York.  So the stages are in different rooms??  Kin Shriner
was saying that they often times get their scripts for a scene
20 minutes before they are supposed to go in and film it!!!
(He made reference to the occassional flubs and ad libs, which
of course are often unavoidable under such circumstances).


They talked to Jagger, (ouch-babe), and asked him how he and
the other kids got along.  He said they all do their work and
support/help each other out.  The cast has very good relationship
skills.[yawn]

They seemed to spend a lot of time with Julia (don't know
actresses name) and they showed how they pick clothes for the
characters.  (They didn't mention who was picking Jenny's these
days.:))


Then the ladies, Hart and Gibbons went on to say the Geary
and Samms were going to be working on a new set with catacombs (sp?)
and a treasure guarded by a live jaguar (or Jaguars).


So, I guess the Jaguar is not a statue at all????? Hopefully
we will see soon because I am going to wear out my tape FF
through all of these silly scenes.


Well, thats all I remember, anyone else see it?? Fill in the
blanks.

Sharon
From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: META: what is a soap?
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:26:33 GMT
Organization: Not

lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes: 

> I was standing there in the shower this morning, half awake, wondering to
> myself what makes a show a soap vs a drama.

> In my younger days, I would only call something a soap if it were a M-F
> series, shown in the afternoon, ensemble cast, drama based TV show.

> Since Dallas and Dynasty, it SEEMS as if shows which: have an ensemble
> cast, do not focus on one subset of characters, have plot lines which,
> for the most part, continue from one week to the next and don't get
> resolved right away are considered soaps.

Interesting subject. I think my ideas of differentiating soaps from
dramas, are that the dramas place an emphasis on 'morality' (e.g. are often
little morality plays demonstrating one object-lesson per episode) and require
more to "happen", e.g. have a stricter plot structures, and whose plot
structures revolve more around actual "events" than on speech acts.
I think also that dramas tend to more or less resolve at the end of the
episode, where soaps mostly don't.

I think of soaps as placing more emphasis on "entertainment" (although
they certainly venture into "moral-of-the-month" but soaps appear to be
meant in a much more intentionally unrealistic way). They too have strict plot
requirements I am sure [ I can't think of the words to describe it, but
I seem to remember from somewhere that each type of TV script has a
strict format, like a drama has 2-minute "teaser", then a 15-minute small-plot
complication, etc etc ] but the nature of the plot contrivances can be
more everyday for a soap. Like a woman entering a room and seeing a certain
friend can be a suspenseful moment as defined for a soap, where for a drama
it might be a guy getting shot or something. That reminds me: how about
this for an idea: soaps tend to be centered around women and dramas
around men? It's just an idea.

I think the lines are beginning to blur a bit; you could describe an
increasing number of shows (e.g. HOMEFRONT) as a hybrid of both, I guess.

Ellen
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From: noonan@sonata.enet.dec.com (Costumes & Makeup and *Kliegs*, oh my!)
Subject: Re: AW: Sally is sticking around
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:39:20 GMT


In article <1992Aug14.121256.973@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, 22302LMK@MSU writes...
>According to SOM Kathleen Mahoney-Bennett (sally) has been signed to AW at leas
> 
>Lisa

         Lisa, which mag is SOM, please?

         Thank you,

         .sigless E
From: johnson@ut-emx.uucp (Karen J. Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:  Charlie -- Yea or Nay?
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:44:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U. Texas Center for Space Research

In article <1992Aug12.150306.27555@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> sal9e@amsun15.apma.Virginia.EDU (Stephen A. Lowe) writes:
>Considering the wholesale exodus of cast members rumored to take place
>this fall, he just might get the chance at a frontburner storyline.
>

I agree with every single word you wrote, Marcia!  Count me in
for hoping they cook up a really juicy storyline for him.

Karen

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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:28:02 EDT
From: <MJB114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Tuesday comments
Distribution: usa
 <1992Aug11.144735.17715@u.washington.edu>
 <1992Aug11.183047.27699@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>
 <1992Aug17.163219.1885@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>

I read the articles which talked about the BJ-Warren-Angela love triangle and I
also read the suggestions to get rid of Katrina, Lisa, and Rafe.  Here's an ide
a:  why not put BJ and Warren together, and stick Angela with TED.  I think the
y looked sexy together (but who DOESN'T look sexy with Angela).  Thus, by putti
ng Ted and Angela together, they would have to drop Katrina somehow (i don't ca
re how they do it, just so its done!).  Now, about that pathetic LISA, why don'
t they just expose her to Rafe, as a LIAR about the pregnancy, which turns Rafe
off and makes him realize he's acting like an idiot and set him up with Lilly!
Maybe they would get rid of Lisa like this somehow:  "she was distraut from Raf
e's rejection and was racing in her car and ACCIDENTALLY drove off one of those
beautiful California cliffs" ......or........ "Lisa seeks revenge at Lilly for
giving Rafe ideas and making Rafe see Lisa as a liar, SOOO Lisa attempts to sho
ot Lilly in the Oasis restaurant, but (fortunately) misses and kills Katrina!"
Now that works!!!  That way, Katrina is dead and Lisa goes to prison and is nev
er heard from again!!!  They're both off the show!!!!

I guess my wish is to see Ted and Angela together, because she's VERY SEXY and
I guess for the females out there, Ted's not so shabby himself.

By the way, was Angela on a different soap before SB?

--Mike B.
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From: brs@boole.acc.Virginia.EDU (Blanche R. Steppe)
Subject: Re: Y&R & B&B
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:19:43 GMT


 jmf@egret5.stanford.edu (Joseph M. Fierro) writes:

>  Excuse me for going on and on, but I can't stand the "Bell-world", where
>complex professions are learnt in weeks by gardeners, the road to the
>CEO starts with a job in the Jabot mailroom, and all the servants are 
>uneducated minorities (Mamie and Miguel from Y&R, Maria from B&B).  These
>soaps can be dangerous reenforcements of stereotypes if taken seriously.
>Oh well, I'll probably continue to watch them anyway, I'm such a hypocrite.

This is where I have to disagree with you.  You didn't mention Esther who
is a servant.  Also, Bill Spencer and other have servants that we don't 
get to see.  I don't understand why you assume that the servants are
uneducated.  Maria and Miquel have never had storylines, so when was it
said that they were uneducated.  Mamie is one of the few intelligent
characters on Y&R, so she must have been educated, formal or otherwise.
Sometimes people assume that servants or blue collar workers are uneducated.
This is not always true.  I know a construction foreman who has a Phd, a
maid who had a degree in elementary education, lots of resturant workers
who have college degrees, an Asian janitor who has a degree in architecture.
We know that Nina, Flo, Dru and Nikki are uneducated.  We don't know that much
about the servants.

Blanche
 


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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:39:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.184907.17637@hubcap.clemson.edu>  Sallie writes:

>Welcome back Pickle.  I missed the coffin switching - vcr broke or something-
>so maybe someone else can fill us both in.
 
   Thanks, it is good to be back, ugh to the net at least.  I sure could
   have used another week in Hawaii!  Oh well!  :-)

>How's it feel to be a Mrs., from one who's been married longer than some
>DOOLers have been around this world (21+ years).

   Wierd!  I just can't seem to get used to the idea!  :-)  My hand
   shakes when I try and sign my new name.  :-)  It really is wierd
   going home with someone after many years of independence and living
   alone!

>Nectarine

   Pickle Peel



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From: minett@seismo.CSS.GOV (Debbie Minett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: TAN: Announcement
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:02:22 GMT

Hi everybody!  First I'd like to say CONGRATULATIONS to
Diane Bartosch on the upcoming addition to her family!
I also wanted to let everyone know that Diane isn't the only
one |-)!!!!  Boy, is it gonna be a looonnnnggggg winter!

Thanks to Yo Mama Helmers for coming up with the baby's
"name" (with a little modification!)!

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From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:25:08 GMT
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN-my yearbook picture
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps

/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / doss@walt.CS.MsState.Edu (Candy Doss) /  2:00 pm  Aug 12, 1992 /

>      I'm totally bored, and since I missed out on yearbook
>      participation, I thought I'd totally embarrass myself 
>      and post my latest picture.

Love the picture, Candy.  If it's to scale, your BH is right.

>      Candy

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                                    a 'business' meeting at Erica's
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From: trish@tronsbox.xei.com (Trish)
Subject: Re: AMC: Erica's husbands
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:31:05 GMT

In article <92232.130510JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu> JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu (Joni Snyder) writes:
>I don't think she ever married Mike Roy and definitely never divorced
>him.  Others she dated and never married:  Chuck Tyler, Nick Davis,
>Jason Maxwell, Jack Montgomery, Jeremy Hunter, Branden Kingsley, Kent
>Bogart, Dimitri Merrick, Mark Dalton.  Am I missing anyone else???

Miek Roy and her married but it was legal.  I don't remember her and
Chuck dating.  Phoebe must have had a stroke over that!! ;-)  Oh BTW,
you forgot (understandably so....) Charlie Brent.  She almost married
him but Adam (of all people) made her realize that she shouldn't.



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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: AMC: Trivia Answers Set #15
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:11:33 GMT


			AMC Trivia Answers Set #15

1.  Who was the photographer at Natalie and Palmer's wedding?

    A. Jeremy Hunter

2.  How did Jeff Martin's wife, Mary, die?

    A.  She was shot when burglars broke into her home

3.  Who proposed to make the story of Erica's life into a movie?
    Name the title of the movie

    A. Adam Chandler     A. Raising Kane

4.  Who were Dottie Thornton's natural parents?

    A. David and Edna Thornton

5.  Who told Donna Cortlandt that Palmer could not be the father of
    her child?

    Phoebe (who else?) :-)

Optional: (anyone who answers this correctly, I will be in awe of the
           rest of my life :-))

6. Who was Marvella Rudd?

    A. Erica's acting coach 
       (this WAS a hard one, I never heard of this woman!)
       
Sorry I didn't post these sooner! :-!

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From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Helga the Hellcat
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:51:56 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <5910@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com>, clt@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Christy L. Thierstein) writes:

>
> Does anyone find it curious that HELLga does not seem to mind being calle 
>HELLcat by Edmond?  It seems to go over her head.  


No, I don't find it curious at all.  It doesn't go over her head, she is just
IGNORING that...see, Helga is a genu-wine old lady and old ladies are really
awesome creatures.  They have lived long enough to concentrate on the essence
of life's situations, and they don't sweat the small stuff.  Helga doesn't give
a damn what Edmund CALLS her, as long as he doesn't FIND OUT anything she
doesn't want him to know.

>I would be at least a
> little ticked off!


Well, so would I be probably but we're not old ladies--yet.  Me, I can't wait
to be an old lady and just rip around, doin' what I want to do and schemin'
however I feel like!  :) :)


Yo "feeling older every day" Helmers

(after all, think what the alternative is to being an old lady...)
From: 22302LMK@MSU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Lorna's REAL family
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:57:38 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Organization: Junior, Metallurgy and Materials Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsbu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:40:16 -0400
From: Eric Gerard Raymont <er1r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Lorna's REAL family

Does anyone know if Alicia Coppola is related to the legendary Francis
Ford Coppola?

You Betcha Dude! In last weeks SOM it was revealed that Alicia and Francis
Coppola are cousins

Lisaq
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