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From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Big Rumor : Jim Harrick to Villanova
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:14:56 GMT
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In-reply-to: srt@aero.org's message of 6 Apr 92 22:41:45 GMT

>>>>> "Scott" == Scott "TCB" Turner <srt@aero.org> writes:

  Scott> (The Crossjammer) writes:
>Get a grip Zafer, I'm not just your average Lute hater. I'm a !!PAC-10!!
>hater.

  Scott> If you continue to bash the Pac-10, Mr. Crossjammed, I will be forced to
  Scott> bring to the net's attention your current nearly-last-place position in 
  Scott> Matthew's Point Total Pool.

  Scott> 			-- Scott "Defender of Righteousness" Turner

Please do! Then I can point out my rather judicious choices of Arizona,
Arkansas, and Kansas to my "West of the Appalachians Choke Squad". If it
wasn't for these All-Catholic nuts and some other random mortal I'd have my
rightful place at the bottom of the heap. My Atlantic Seaboard Press
Conspiracy "Hex of the Year Medal" is now in the mail.

Your Humble Atlantic Seaboard Press Conspirator.


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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: WOLVERINE'S can PLAY the game!
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:34:18 GMT
Organization: Bell Communications Research

In article <1992Apr7.215132.21652@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, wcd2z@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel) writes:
|> Michigan will always be a shit talking team in all sports!!!!!
|> You guys always lose the big ones, just like UVa and we do it
            ^^^^^^
Please!  You obviously don't remember the 1988-89 basketball season,
so spare us your ignorance...

|> without talking shit and our players keep composure ( not
|> crying on the sidelines like that Webber punk ) The Fab 5
|> is too cocky for thier own good, and may not ever win a
|> championship.                                               

Maybe, maybe not.  I like their future chances more than most 
other teams in college right now...

|>                The question is can they stay is school that
|> long, the aren't exactly Phi Beta Kappa candidates!
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But niethr are sum of you who have troubl with yur own posts. Hoo
are you to judj them?

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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Dale Brown vs Father Of The Bride
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:08:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.141637.9790@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.192025.8822@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>>
>>Is anybody following the story of Shaquille's dad calling Dale Brown
>>``an untruthful man,'' and later apologizing?  Apparently Dale and Dad
>>have had different opinions on when to announce the Shaq's move to the
>>NBA, and whether or not Shaq has a contract with L.A. Gear, etc.
>>
>>Tune in tomorrow...
>
>	Yes it is, and here's something on it which is sort of funny, I
>	think:

	Thought I'd let you know that a new wire service story today
	indicates that Shaq's dad has publically apologized for ripping
	into Brown the day before.  He said Dale is "family"...

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From: burtonr@qso.Colorado.EDU (Richard Burton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Billy and Nantz
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:45:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: colorado.1992Apr6.164556.14963
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Mustafa Patwa writes:
>What about when Nantz said 'if Nick Van Exel and Jalen Rose were on the same
>team you'd have a real rock -n- roll backcourt; Exel Rose and Van Jalen.'
>He should do stand -up

Only because he presents an easier target to hit while standing up.

I never thought I'd say this, but I'd rather hear Valvano.

T-Bone
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Big Ten Domination
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:50:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr16.125031.22058
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison
Originator: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

In article <45766@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> flashman@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matt Flash Bouma) writes:
>
>	The Big Ten Dominates the college ranks.  Not only did they
>send an unprecedented 5 teams to the tourney, they had two reach the
>final four and Michigan(go blue!) reach the finals.  Almost every
>team in the conference is young and only looking stronger for the
>future, so don't be surprised when seven teams make it to the tourney
>next year.  Watch out for Iowa during the regular season to cause 
>havic to every team they play.  Unfortunately they most likely will
>lose to some lowly teams too and make a quick exit from the tourney.
>But alas, Michigan will once again rain the world when it takes
>the championship.
>				Flash.

Unprecedented???  I think not.  2 years ago the Big 10 had 7 teams in the
Big Dance (Michigan State, Purdue, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio
State, and Indiana).  The Big East has had 6 or 7 teams in the NCAA at the
same time more than once.  In the future, please check your statistics before
you embarrass my alma mater, like you have this time.

Iowa usually doesn't lose to lowly teams in the tournament.  Historically,
they get a tough draw and end up losing to a Duke or a UNC, hardly whimps.

You are right about the youth, though, and may be correct about the Big 10
getting 7 teams back in there again.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (   )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Illini - crappy final four team
Date: 15 Apr 1992 19:35:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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james.r.fehrenbacher wrote:
Because that team was incredibly talented, more so than Michigan and
should have won it all. The only recent team that compares in talent
was the UNLV team with Augmon and Johnson and maybe Duke this year.

If you consider Rice, Vaught, Robinson, Mills, Higgin, Huges less talented
than Gill, Anderson, Battle, Bardo, Hamilton, and Liberty, you should really
look into the NBA stats and some old videos. The tallest Illini starter is
only 6'7", they just used quickness, speed, and team work to compensate for
the lack of physical force. They should be very much honored to know that
they are considered to be about the same with the great UNLV team.



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From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Subject: Re: laettner in trouble?
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: rec.sport.basketball.college
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:40:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.114812.1646@mercury.ncat.edu> lazarea@mercury.ncat.edu (Andy Lazare) writes:
>just read in the winston-salem paper that laettner might be in trouble.
>apparently he signed a contract with the magazine GQ to write his diary.
>he made this contract during the season. but i think he wasn't suppose
>to write it till after the season. not sure though.
>
> 

The radio report I heard this morning says that the NCAA is investigating
this and sanctions against Duke may result. Sanctions could range from
a letter of repremand to forfiture of games that Laettner played in, 
including the National Championship. My personal opinion is that I don't
think there is any way in hell this will happen (nor should it), but
apparently there is going to be an investigation. Stay tuned! 



-- 
Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1991 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV                        
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: ellis@cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Donta Bright/UMass
Originator: ellis@catamaran.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:05:09 GMT

Do any UMass people know if Donta Bright has committed to UMass, verbally or
otherwise.  Since NBA agents are circulating rumors about Jim Jackson going
pro, I thought maybe Donta would possibly take his scholarship at Ohio State.

Anyone?

S. Ellis
cis@osu
From: George.Harris@bbs.oit.unc.edu (George Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: The Final
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:38:30 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service


	Well, quite a pair of games this weekend.  Looks like Michigan will
have a chance at revenge tonight.

	In the Michigan-Cincinnati game, I was really impressed with Cincy's
ability to keep the ball out of Rose's hands both bringing the ball upcourt
and running the half-court offense.  They really kept Michigan out of sync
for most of the game.  Unfortunately for the Bearcats, Michigan's tremen-
dous edge in rebounding kept them in the game until they could adjust to the
traps and get their confidence, and once that happened, that was all she wrote.

	As for the Duke-Indiana, well, at first it looked like the '90 final 
all over again.  Duke was standing around on offense, not blocking out and
playing defense with their hands instead of their feet.  Meanwhile, Indiana
had formulated an excellent defense against Laettner and were screening to
perfection (although they did get called for a couple).  Fortunately, Hurley
showed the maturity that has made him the best point guard in the nation,
and Duke seemed to get it together towards the end of the first half.  They
just went on an incredible run.  They went on a 31-6 run to go from down 27-39
to up 58-45.  From there it was a matter of hanging on and withstanding a late
barrage of 3-pters and making free-throws to eke out the victory.

	I don't see how in hell Duke can be favored tonight.  It was clear
that playing such a short rotation all season has begun to wear on the Duke
players, as they were sucking wind in the last 5 minutes.  Meanwhile, Michigan
finished strong against Cincy, and has enough depth to wear the Devils down.
If you look back to the last time these clubs met, you'll see that Michigan
has improved tremendously, while Duke has just settled down a bit.  So, even
if Duke were at full strength, I'd give the nod to Michigan.  But, with Davis
out with a high-ankle sprain (that's three this year), and Grant Hill playing
on a sore knee, Duke is going to have to give major minutes to Parks and 
Clark, and those two don't have the experience in big games to really contri-
bute.  It looks like the fab five are gonna pull it off.
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From: scoop@athena.mit.edu (Michael D Powers)
Subject: Re: Congraduate to Duke.....NOT!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:24:55 GMT

In article <12005@ns-mx.uiowa.edu>, welin@icaen.uiowa.edu (Wentsung Lin) writes:

   (Lots of pathetic whining about officiating ommited..)

|> 
|> The college Basketball season finally over, and this year's big
|> winner is the NCAA and the ref's.  No, Duke did NOT win the Final
|> Four.  Other teams just lost to the ref's.
|> 
|> One final thought, I have no respect for those who try to make up
|> stupid excuses instead admitting the wrong doings.  

   Yeah, like those who blame the referees for losing the game instead of
admitting that they have been beaten by a superior team!!!


BTW, I respect Chris Webbers' comment after the game.  Something to the effect of
"the officials did not lose the game for us, we were just beaten by a better
team".  It is just fans like you who I have little respect for.


-scoop@athena.mit.edu
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Ed O'Bannon's Brother
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:33:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <760@lfpd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> kdougan@lfpd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Kelly Dougan) writes:
>        Can anyone out there give me more information on Ed's brother.  First
>of all, what is his name?  How good is he?

His name is Charles O'Bannon, and he is very good, one of the top juniors in
California. If he goes to IU it would be a big blow to the UCLA program
but at his position(guard/forward) they will have Tarver and maybe Kevin
Dempsey so they may have a tough time convincing Charlie he'll play right 
away.




Russ Smith
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From: mgarber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Max D Garber)
Subject: Re: OKAY, DUKE FANS... WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NEXT YEAR?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:53:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.023051.9339@ncsu.edu> washburn@sparc.ncsu.edu (chris) wri
tes:
>One question for all you miserable Duke fans out there:
>
>What are you going to do next year when you don't have Christian Laettner
>to make that miracle last-second shot to get you into the Final Four?
>
>Just wondering.
>
>(If the Pack has anything to do with it, you won't even make it to the NCAAs!)
>
>GO WOLFPACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>Chris (Bennie's and Avie's cousin)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^WE'LL SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: bdlaugh@athena.mit.edu (Corn)
Subject: Re: 1987 Iowa Hawkeyes
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:50:19 GMT

In article <nittmo.702337723@camelot>, nittmo@camelot.bradley.edu (Christopher Taylor) writes:
|> The person who brought up the 1987 Hawks got me thinking that that team
|> included 7 (I think) players who have appeared in the NBA at one time or
|> another in the last few years.
|> 
|> 
|> Loads of talent, and had they not blown a 58-42 halftime lead against UNLV
|> in the West regional finals they would have faced Indiana in the Final
|> Four. 

Don't remind me.  At halftime of that game, I was thinking about how I could get
to New Orleans.  Then in the second half, Dr. Tom went into his patented
"slowdown" offense, UNLV started hitting their 3-pointers, and the rest is
history.


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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Don MacLean = Kiki Vandewaigh
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:13:21 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Apr16.161954.25286@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>Some of you may think I'm crazy, but Don Maclean strikes me as having a
>remarkably similar game to that of Kiki Vandewaigh (or however the hell you
>spell his name), at least coming out of college.  Do you suppose that is
>the type of player Don will be?

Don's a bit bigger and a bit slower than Kiki in his prime. Both had/have 
great first steps, but Kiki could really go to the hole in Denver alot 
quicker(and stronger) than Don can. Don has a much quicker release, but 
probably less range(although his range increased throughout college). Both
cant play defense, and Don will not be much of a rebounder in the NBA,
'similar to Kiki. I see Don as a spot player off the bench because he 
really has no position, too slow for small forward, not strong enough 
to play power forward. I think he's a better Michael Smith who was a bust
with the Celtics. Don won't be a bust, but he won't be a star either.

>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu




Russ Smith
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From: james@HISOFT.COM (James C. Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: They said it couldn't be done
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:50:21 GMT

They said it is too difficult to repeat as champions.  If UNLV couldn't 
do it, no one can.

They said Kentucky's shooting would deny them a fifth trip in five years
to the Final Four.

They said Indiana was playing so well, no one could beat them.

They said Michigan's freshmen are too young to understand the
pressure of a championship game, and that they would win.

Earlier, it was said that "Duke is not the best team in the ACC.~

Duke doesn't have a deep enough bench to win.

Duke's defense is no longer good enough to win.

Duke can't win with Brian Davis injured.

Duke can't win.

Duke 71 Michigan 51




Duke University

1991 NCAA Champions
#1 ranked team, pre season
1992 First place, ACC regular season
1992 ACC Champions
#1 ranked team, every week of the season
1992 East Regional Champions
1992 NCAA Champions

Duke:  34-2

Christian Laettner:  NCAA Player of the Year, All NCAA Tournament
Mike Krzyzewski:  NCAA Coach of the Year
Grant Hill:  All NCAA Tournament
Bobby Hurley:  NCAA Tournament MVP

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From: yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ricker)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION REC.SPORT.BASKETBALL.COLLEGE POSTERS...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:38:49 GMT

delnegro-v@CBR.ncsu.edu (Vincent) writes:

>Will the following rec.sport.basketball.college posters please listen
>carefully:
>	
>	yyl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ricker)
>	wcd2z@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel)
>	lobster@phy.duke.edu (Orin A. Day)
>	firey@lab5.smcm.edu (Thomas A. Firey)
>	micss@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Stephen Mickio)
>	yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ricker) (again)
>	rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
>	flashman@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matt Flash Bouma)
>	mgarber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Max D Garber)
>	jc6t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jay S. Chun)
>	tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay)
>	yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ricker) (a third time)

>DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!
>THIS IS A JOKE... A FREAKIN' JOKE.... LIGHTEN UP...
>ALL OF IT IS A FARCE, A PRANK, A FRAUD, A COMICAL INTERPRETATION...
>IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT CHARLES SHACKELFORD OR CHRIS WASHBURN COULD
>ACTUALLY GET ON THE INTERNET, YOU ARE BIGGER FOOLS THAN I THOUGHT.  
>SPUD WEBB, "LO"RENZO CHARLES, THURL BAILEY, BENNIE BOLTON, TERRY GANNON,
>JT VALVANO, RUSSELL PIERRE, AVIE LESTER.... ANY OF THESE NAMES SOUND THE
>LEAST BIT FAMILIAR...  WHAT ARE YOU... COMPLETE MORONS OR SOMETHING..
>sheesh..

>I apologize for that outburst... I've been under stress lately...
>Well, I'm back off to Italy.

>				GO WOLFPACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
> 				Vinnie


Who do you think you are?  Of course all of us know whoever posted those
articles is a f*ckin' wimp who doesn't have the guts to post it under his
own account.  Why do you think I cut down Chris Washburn about him being able
to read and use the net?  I know he's a freakin' moron.  



WOLFPACK SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: dm63+@andrew.cmu.edu (Don Russell Molina)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Carnesecca Resigns
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:33:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

It's a damn shame. Big East Basketball will never be the same again.

                                                            Rus
From: flashman@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matt Flash Bouma)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Crybaby NC and Duke fans.
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:51:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Why don't all you Duke and NC fans give it a rest.  Especially the two
bitching back and forth at each other.  Get a life and have someone give
you a realistic view on life.  Michigan all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: tshannon@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy J Shannon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: preseason top 10 - no order
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:40:47 GMT
Organization: CAD-Research, U. of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa

From article <1992Apr7.154947.3185@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, by pchu_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Captain Caveman):
> Duke
> Michigan
> Indiana
> Kentucky
> Ohio State
> Florida State
> North Carolina
> Arizona
> Southern Cal
> Seton Hall

	Here are my preseason top ten (in no specific order);
Duke
Michigan
Indiana
Ohio State
North Carolina
Arizona
USC
Kansas
UNLV 
Kentucky

	There might be a couple other Big Ten teams in there, but it is very
hard to conceive that Iowa, Michigan St., and Minnesota will be in the top
ten with all of the other Big ten teams remaining.  Also i think there should
be alot of Big 8 teams in the Top 25, Iowa St. had almost all underclassmen.
I don't meant to offend anyone, but N.C. State didn't make my list:-).


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