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From: dbarron@qualcomm.com (Dan Barron)
Subject: HELP: MS Word 5.0 Temp Files, and Equations
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:07:41 GMT

I have a Word Temp file which contains a bunch of text and a couple hours 
worth of equations.  I have been trying to recover the equations w/o much
luck.  The text was easy to get back, but the equations are a whole different
story.  The euqations are now a series of text strings which look as though
they contain font and position information.  MS tech support offered a 
suggestion of placing the RTF header at the beginning of the file and let word
translate the text info back into the equation.  Did not work.

Has anyone ever recovered equation info from a temp file?  If so how?

Thanks!

Dan Barron                           db@qualcomm.com
Computer Support
Qualcomm, Inc.
San Deigo, CA
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: excel 3.0 -> 3.0a? HOW
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:50:44 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <1992Aug27.133249.18402@ncsu.edu> dnwhiteh@eos.ncsu.edu (DUANE N WHITEHURST) writes:

>wondering if anybody knows if there's an update script to
>update ms. excel from 3.0 to 3.0a?

I've never seen an Excel 3.0a updater, as far as I know you have to order
a new set of disks from MicroSloth. 

>i've seen people talk about excel 3.0a and I was wondering
>what the difference is too but, going on the "updates are
>always for the best" theory I'd like to upgrade my copy...

I subscribe to that theory myself but as far as I know only Quadra users
benefit from the 3.0a update (cache compatibility).

But hey! You could always just upgrade to Excel 4 instead!

-Geoff
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From: fullerto@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton)
Subject: Re: Archive search and listing program...
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:47:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.162242.4958@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:
>Does anyone know of a program that works more or less like the Finder's Find 
>File, but will search into either Compact Pro or Stuffit 3.0 (Lite) archives?
>

	I stumbled upon this by accident. When I had StuffIt open, and I
ran the NOW utilities file finder, it included the filename from within
all Stuffit archives which contained it. I imagine it will work with Cpctpro
in the same way. It will search by attributes too, but I have never used it
in this manner and I am not sure which attributes.

		good luck!

			Tim F


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From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Subject: RE: HD backup software
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:16:56 GMT

I have SurfGuard, and find it inferior to Irwin's software.  I'm interested in 
getting Retrospect to see what it's like.


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From: sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
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Subject: Re: $$$$$$$$$$$$$ WARNING !!!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:37:04 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: na
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

In article <BtqCvx.23z@news.udel.edu>, johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes...
> 
>Sorry if that sounds harsh, but "Caveat emptor" makes sense 
>in every language.  It also helps to be patient and polite
>on the telephone, especially if one is communicating in one's
>second language.

That's exactly why the original poster warned us about his problem.  I,
for one, am glad to be aware.  Regardless of the real reason for his
problem, even if it is only miscommunication (it didn't sound that way
to me, but OK) it's still the fault of Second Wave for not immediately
giving him his money back in the interest of good customer relations.

In my family business (nothing to do with computers) we give instant
cash refunds to anyone who wants one, no questions asked.  We often give
refunds to people who clearly didn't buy the product in our stores.  Heck, 
if they really *think* that they did, maybe they will come back next time!

What company needs one sale at the expense of creating one enemy?  I think
that they were plain stupid to treat this guy the way they did, even if
he was completely to blame.

-Scott
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SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV		that if I should come to life after my death
				and some mathematician were to tell me that it
				had been definitely settled, I think I would
				immediately drop dead again."      - Vandiver
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From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Aladdin's SpaceSaver
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:53:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.79115
Reply-To: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ifbb657@doc.cc.utexas.edu

How does Aladdin's SpaceSaver compare to Salient's
AutoDoubler with compression and data safety?




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                            myself.
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From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: disinfectant 3.0????
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:55:59 GMT

> parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn) writes:

   I haven't seen information on Disinfectant beyond version 2.9.

Me neither.

   If the rumour of new virus was the T4, or was it T2, relax. The report
   was withdrawn after closer investigation found non-viral reasons for
   the trouble being observed...

Actually, the non-virus was called "Aliens 4" while the "T" virus
still exists (but don't appears to have caught on)

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From: ogil@quads.uchicago.edu (Brian W. Ogilvie)
Subject: Re: Word 5 Questions
Reply-To: ogil@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Morris Fishbein Center for the History of Science and Medicine
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:56:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.113659.9472@corax.udac.uu.se> Stephen Cooper <stephen@csd.uu.se> writes:

>Apparently, Word has it's own font & other system gizmos that it
>installs.  By throwing away
>the system folder, I had also thrown away a Word font called MT Extra.  I
>couldn't print
>formulas from Equation editor.  No error messages, no nuthin.  The file
>just disappeared :-(
>
>After re-installing most of Word 5, the dang thing *still* won't print. 
>But this time I at
>least get an error message.  "Postscript error".  Like *that* says a lot.
> I'm getting pretty
>tired of Word 5.  When's the next release due?

The MT Extra font appears to be installed if you choose "Equation
Editor with System Resources" or whatever it's called in the Word
installer.  The "Equation Editor Only" doesn't install the font.

Did you reinstall from a backup or from the Word installation disks?
I've heard that the former produces more crashes than usual :-(

On a different note, has anyone noticed that clicking on the "Section"
glossary entry on a 68K Mac causes a warm reboot?  Actually, I've
tried it only on my SE, 4 Mb, with Gatekeeper 1.2.6 and Norton
FileSaver the only active extensions (besides TuneUp 1.1.1, of
course).

And whose bright idea was it at Microsoft to copy _ALL_ the compressed
files to the hard disk during installation before decompressing _ANY_
of them?  Installing Word 5 on my 20 Mb hard disk was like pulling
teeth, and I ended up deleting several megabytes of files and
restoring them from a backup.  BAD, BAD, BAD.
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From: johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Erik A. Johnson)
Subject: Re: More 3.1, ResEdit, Compressed Rsc.s (Not for the faint of heart)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:26:12 GMT
Keywords: ResEdit, More, Compress, purple cows

newton@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Newton) writes:
>There are some applications, of which More 3.1 (& 3.0), and
>MacTools 2.0 are two examples, that use 'resource compression'
>to save disk space -- ie: they automagically are installed already 
>compressed, MDS & AutoDoubler (etc) will not shrink them.
>
>I would very much like to ResEdit some of the 'MENU' (and
>other!!!) definitions in More, but unlike the compression used
>by Apple, ResEdit does not automagically expand these.

How about having Macsbug on the machine and breaking into the debugger while
More (or whatever) is running, and search for the 'MENU' resources in
Macsbug, display them while saving to a log file, and then take the log
file and reconstruct the 'MENU' resources using ResEdit (or equivalent).

Will that work?


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From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Which packages are PowerPoint's competitors?
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:00:03 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <ECK.92Aug26161738@saul.upenn.edu> (comp.sys.mac.apps), eck@saul.upenn.edu (Brian J. Eck) writes:
> 
>    I've recently been asked to find a good presentation-making
> application for our Macs.  It's been a few years since I've been
> heavily into Mac presentation, so I'm not up on the latest
> developments.
> 
>    I used to use MS PowerPoint, and I believe it's still around; I'm
> fairly sure there are other applications that match/beat it in terms
> of price, performance, etc.  My only requirement is that the
> applications be able to use color and output it as color PostScript.
> 
>    Thanks in advance for any recommendations...

Aldus Persuasion is a strong competition to PowerPoint.  Aldus
recently release version 2.1 (they seem to actively developing
it).

Also, More 3 from Symantec has some good presentation features. 
I know a number of folks who use More for this purpose.

Finally, Peirce Software's product, Smoothie, can produce an
anti-aliased version of your presentation created in any of
these programs.  If you want to give your presentation
on-screen (maybe using a project display) anti-aliasing
improves the graphics and especially the text (italics look
great!) quality a lot.

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From: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Subject: MS Word 5 unimplemented trap
Reply-To: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Organization: Cornerstone Research, Cambridge, Mass.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:30:34 GMT

Anyone know what it means when you get a system error due to an 
"unimplemented trap" in MS Word 5.0?  I've never heard of this before...

Thanks,

Andy

 

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From: rashid@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert G Rashid)
Subject: Re: Wanted: System 7 compatible McSink
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:58:38 GMT

In article <66926@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt5116b@prism.gatech.EDU
(TUREK,GABRIELLA) writes:

>I have an old version of the application McSink which doesn't work
>with system 7. I am not sure where the copy I have came from.
>Is anyone familiar with this application and know where I could get an
>updated version?
>Thanx gaby
>gt5116b@prism.gatech.edu

I am using Vantage, a commercial product by the author of McSink.  It
works fine under system 7 on my Quadra.  (32 bit is not on, yet).
Great program at a reasonable price, with the fastest search/replace I
have found.
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From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: disinfectant 3.0????
Keywords: virus
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:55:05 GMT

I haven't seen information on Disinfectant beyond version 2.9.

If the rumour of new virus was the T4, or was it T2, relax. The report
was withdrawn after closer investigation found non-viral reasons for
the trouble being observed...

From: Rick.Zeman@p943.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Zeman)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
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Subject: StuffIt Converter (was Re: More SpaceSaver) 
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:46:33 -0500

On 8/25/92@6:43:48 PM, leonardr said regarding 'StuffIt Converter (was Re: More
SpaceSaver) ': 

  lr> From: leonardr@ccs.itd.umich.edu
  lr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps 
  lr> Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 
  lr> In article <1992Aug20.030656.15265@ariel.ec.usf.edu>
  lr> pollock@eggo.tmc.edu (Wayne Pollock) writes:
  lr> 
 
  
  lr> 	Yeah, blame the Finder.  The Finder opens a file (actually
  lr> it 
  lr> opens it twice!) in order to get all the "info" that it displays in
  lr> the 
  lr> "Get Info" window.  Since SpaceSaver decompress files when they are
  lr> opened, 
  lr> we decompress them here too.  We are looking into ways to "determine"
  lr> that 
  lr> the open is really for a "Get Info " and avoid the decompression, and
  lr> also
  lr> give more info in the Get Info dialog.
  lr> 

      I presume then that Aladdin is aware that in the Finder (viewing by name)
that listing a directory by clicking on the triangle causes all of the files
within that folder to be decompressed.  I presume that that's because of the
need to get the icons out of the rforks.  Still not cool, though.

  > The StuffIt Converter application is dangerous!  It doesn't appear to be
  > as well thought out as the rest of SD.
  > 
  lr> 	As the author of Converter, I have to agree!!  Converter did not go
  lr> through all the rigorous testing that the rest of the producdt did,
  lr> and as such
  lr> we are finding that it has a couple of problems that can cause
  lr> problems. As
  lr> Wayne suggested, you might want to be careful in your use of Converter
  lr> until
  lr> we have a chance to update it (probably next week some time!).
  lr> --

      Dunno about dangerous--all it does for me is make a temp folder in my
System folder, decompresses the files to that...and stop.  Always.  
BTW--what happened to the manual's index?  And the uuencode/uudecode
translator?
If you're updating these...problems, how will the updating be handled?

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From: dr_mcgee@pnl.gov (David R. McGee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: MORPH
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:55:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: pythagor.dr_mcgee-280892160234
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Pacific Northwest Laboratory

Does anyone know how to reach Gryphon, the makers of that great new
quicktime compatible application that creates quicktime movies of the
transmogriphication of one image into another?

David R. McGee
Network Manager
Battelle Northwest
Pacific Northwest Laboratory
Battelle Boulevard, M/S K1-88
Richland, WA 99352
(509)375-6994
fax  375-6631
ALINK drmcgee
internet dr_mcgee@pnl.gov
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From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Re: How to get N telnet windows & large fonts (with VersatermPro)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:14:30 GMT

johng@informix.com (John Galloway) writes:

>I could use MacX/xterm, but then I would have to first telnet to each host
>(via say Versaterm) and then fire up an xterm, seems like a pain. 

You don't have to telnet in; MacX has an rexec facility so that you
can have a menu of hosts that MacX will rexec "xterm -display mac:0".

NCSA Telnet can use different fonts and sizes. Anything that uses the
CTB can have 9 or 12 point, though that is not terribly exciting.

pr
-- 
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From: lcgordon@milton.u.washington.edu (Lisa Claesson-Gordon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word publish,PageMaker subscribe!!!
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:48:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.lcgordon.715405716
Organization: University of Washington

richard@adpgate.UUCP ( ADP OPuS) writes:


>	Just got the new PageMaker 4.2 to use with Microsoft Word 5.0 in 
>	my quest to automate publications.  With PageMaker 4.0 I could 
>	link graphics that were "Place"able, but I use a LOT of Word 
>	Tables.  The only way to get the tables into PageMaker is to 
>	convert them into PICT graphics in Word, then cut them through
>	the Clipboard.  Of course, PageMaker can't link through the 
>	clipboard!

>	SOooooo, my publish & subscribe dream...publish the table in Word,
>	then subscribe in PageMaker????  IT WON'T WORK.  PageMaker brings 
>	it over in pieces as tab delimited data - no more table!

>	Welllll, how about convert the table to PICT in Word, then publish
>	the PICT table and subscribe in PageMaker????  Close, but no 
>	ceeegar.  PageMaker brings it over as an inline graphic, which is 
>	supposed happen only if you select the text cursor from the Toolbox.
>	Everytime I tried to move the table into position, it would 
>	spring back into place presumably because of it's inline graphic 
>	status.  I figure if I could get it to be an independent graphic 
>	things might go OK, but since its coming from a WORD processor, 
>	PageMaker gets the message that is is text (just a guess).

>	Some of you may be wondering why I don't just use the PageMaker 
>	Table Editor to make the tables?  I investigated that but I need 
>	to be able to use multiple fonts and it's not supported.

>	Anybody have any ideas or experiences with how to LINK Word tables 
>	to PageMaker????  Wisdom????


I haven't tried this with Word 5 recently, but I presume that you have read
our docs, in particular the section on "Importing a table from Table Editor
and Word 4.0" (I'm at home and have only an older copy of the doc set with me.)
It tells you to insert an uppercase T in a new line before the table, and
to apply the "hidden" style to it. Then use import/place to import it as
tab-delimited text.
to import as graphic, you should: turn off the "Show Hidden Text" and
"Show Table Gridlines" options, select ONLY the table, and press
CMD-OPT-D to have Word copy the table to the clipboard as a graphic.
(Tha's intuitive, eh?). You can then paste it into PageMaker.

I don't have the 4.2 manuals with me, and I haven't had a chance to play with
it, so I don't know why publish/subscribe aren't working for you.

Also, looking at the Table Editor doc, it appears that the limitation is on
the number of fonts and/or type size in the same cell. You can apply multiple
styles (bold, italic) within a cell, and can format cells individually should
you so desire.

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From: linley@boole.seas.ucla.edu (Bruce Linley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Laserwriter Drivers: Appletalk NOT wanted!
Keywords: Driver, Laserwriter, Appletalk
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:50:59 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

I use Apple's laserwriter driver solely for the purpose of creating 
encapsulated postscript files. The problem is that when I select it in the
chooser each time, it turns appletalk on which causes my deskwriter to go
wonko (printing out lots of garbage). Is there any way to fix the driver
so that it doesn't turn appletalk on? Thanks in advance.
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