HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: PowerBook Newsgroup
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:11:59 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

hollasch@kpc.com (Steve Hollasch) writes:

>hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
>| 
>|     This proposal, as it currently stands, is completely invalid
>| according to the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation. Until the original
>| poster has an approved RFD for the group, there should be no talk about
>| in news.groups. Please confine discussion to either comp.sys.laptop or
>| comp.sys.mac.hardware which are the two main groups for powerbook
>| discussion.

>    Ah, I love the smell of freshly made laws in a newsgroup.

    What are you talking about? I certainly haven't made any laws nor
would I ever presuppose that I could do such a thing.

>    PowerBook Newsgroup.
>    Power.  Book.  News.  Group.
>    I ain't got one, but that's OK.
>    PowerBook  PowerBook  PowerBook
>    ... LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU ANY MORE LA LA LA LA ...

    I would respond to this but that would mean I would have to act as
childish as you have here.
--
-Brian V. Hughes 
"December 1 - What begins as a friendly transitional get-together between
 the Bushes and the Clintons ends in tragedy when Millie ralphs up what
 is later identified as Socks the cat." Dave Barry 1992 Year in Review
From: hodgesc@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Christopher Hodges)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Getting Unix files onto Mac
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:25:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1jpvq2INNgl
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Dept, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu


	Hello all,
	  This is probably a real stupid question but I don't understand
	how it works.  I have FTP'ed some stuff(mac) to my Unix account
	and have no idea how to get the files onto the Mac. I am accessing
	the Unix machine via modem from a Mac. How do I get the FTP'ed
	files to copy to the MAC, and better yet, what do I do with them
	once I copy them over (Binhex? Unstuff???) I am using white knight
	for the modem.
	  Another thing. I know I can FTP Binhex to my Unix account, but if
	I am supposed to use Binhex to make the other files workable, how
	do I Binhex the FTP'ed Binhex file? I don't get it. 
	  I would greatly appreciate any help. As you can tell, I am pretty
	confused about the whole thing. Please respond to 
	hodgesc@prism.cs.orst.edu.

	Thanks in advance,
	Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: tsai_c@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Apple 13" RGB monitor flickering
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:18:11 GMT


My new Apple 13" monitor is flickering sometimes when I close a window.
I am using the monitor with IIci on board vedio circuit. Any people out
there have the same experience or maybe I just got a bad one?

Please send mail to me or post. Thanks.

Eric

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kevdunn@bnr.ca (Kevin Dunn)
Subject: Re: Video Spigot impressions ??
Reply-To: mstudent@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:47:54 GMT

In article <2419@sousa.tay.dec.com>, craparotta@frside.enet.dec.com writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> I'm thinking about purchasing a Super Mac Video Spigot for my Qudra900.
|> 
|> Can anyone give me any impressions on this setup.. Please E-mail me rather
|> than hosing up the net.. Thanx!!!
|> 
|> -
|> Joe Craparotta	Craparotta@level.dec.com
|> 		--or-- ...!decwrl!level.dec.com!craparotta
|> 		--or-- craparotta%level.dec@decwrl.dec.com
|> 
|> discalimer: The above are my Personal views and do NOT represent those of my 
|> EMPLOYER.. They don't listen to me anyway.. :-))

  Personaly i would go for the Radius Video Vision. It has inputs for s-video, RCA (2 sources), one stereo rca audio input, one s-video, rca output. all on a convienent patch bar.

Kevin Dunn
aka falcon **The electric Jet**
kevdunn@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: New Virus Alert
From: seth@physc1.byu.edu
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:00:19 -0700
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University

In article <1joqloINN5sj@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>, georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) writes:
> In <C17vKv.E0o@demon.co.uk> pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk (James Petts) writes:
> 
>>*** CAUTION - READ THIS .sig AT YOUR OWN RISK! ***************************
>>*                                                * NOTE! VISIGOTH HAS NO *
>>* Q. Wenn ist das Nunstueck git und Slotermeyer? * CONNECTION WITH ANY   *
>>* A. Ja!... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt * OTHER SITE AT         *
>>*    gersput!                                    * DEMON.CO.UK           *
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^you don't seem to understand
> 					       German, do you?

Kauderwelsch habe ich schon mal gesehen, aber das uebertrifft alles...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: cole@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Sandra Stewart-Cole)
Subject: Re: Erasing mac files
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 08:00:59 GMT

In <1993Jan22.225434.17284@linus.mitre.org> dhartge@mitre.org (Duane Hartge) 
writes:

>Are there any programs that will remove the file names from the catalog trees
>along with the data from the files? Norton Wipe Info seems to do a good job of
>overwriting the files data, but the catalog and extents tree entries remain. 
>Any suggestions? 

The simplest thing to do is to mung the name before you erase. If names are 
important to you to get rid of with the files, you could easily go thru and 
rename a file you wish to both erase and hide the name of and just rename it 
something meaningless before you trash it. 

I realize that what you really want is some sort of en masse automatic way of 
doing this. I have seen none. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: R1025C@waccvm.corp.mot.com (John Famolaro)
Subject: can this be done.
Organization: Motorola
Date: 22 Jan 1993 14:29:18 MST

I am trying to write a think c application that will first launch
tn3270 then after exiting tn3270 launch panorama. can this be done, if
so how. do you have a sample code.

thank you very much
john famolaro


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: tomj@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins)
Subject: Early MacWrite needed!
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:56:03 GMT

Help!  I've aquired an older 512K Mac.  Although I have an early version of
the system (4.1), I need an early version of MacWrite.  Can some kind soul
bin-hex up and e-mail me a copy?  I'd be most appreciative.  Thanks.

--Tom

UUCP: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj
ARPA: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj@nosc.mil
INET: tomj@pnet16.cts.com
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Authorized dealers--HAH!
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 93 21:55:13 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

The local major authorized dealer here in town, a large computer retailer
who's
been around for awhile and has been selling Apple computers for ages, told me
today that installing NuBus cards into a Macintosh (IIci is the machine we
were discussing in particular) voids the warranty.  This discussion came about
after I overheard the salesman discussing with a customer how the customer
would bring his IIci in to have a Radius video board installed.

That's $50 into the dealer's pocket.

I called him on it, gently, in the disbelieving amazement of someone who had
never even thought about it (so as to get him to open up).  He reassured me,
with his manager sitting right next to us paying attention to us, that indeed
installing a NuBus card into any Mac, large format (II/cx/ci/fx/Quadra) or
small (IIsi, LC), would absolutely void the warranty.  The manager looked on
in approval.

It's too late to call the Apple Customer Assistance Center today, but I'd like
to know if anyone else has gotten this song and dance.  Better yet, I'd like
to know if this is indeed the truth--because I strongly suspect it is not. 
Didn't this discussion hit the rounds on the net some time ago?

Aloha,
--Adam--
 
--  
Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH
UUCP: ...!uunet.uu.net!towers!bluemoon!cmhgate!20.18!Adam.Frix
INET: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jawalsh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (John A. Walsh)
Subject: Re: SuperClock 4.0.1
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:05:43 GMT

BTW, SuperClock 4.0.2 does NOT fix the conflict w/ Moire screensaver on
a B&W Mac (Classic II).  That is, when the screen saver kicks in, the
clock is still visable.  

I'm a big fan of SuperClock.  It's a great gadget.  But there do seem to
be a few bugs in these recent versions.  For now, I'm sticking with
3.whatever.


-- 
**********John A. Walsh, Dept. of English, Indiana University************
*               jawalsh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Internet)               *
*         jawalsh@iubacs.bitnet (Bitnet)  812/323-1035 (Voice)          *   
*********1216 S. Stull Ave. #2, Bloomington, IN 47401 (US Mail)**********
From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: * NEEDED: mac tape drive compatable with SGI tape format
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:26:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Howdy,

	Apparently my cross-posting didn't work so I apologize if this
came up several times.
	I have a Mac IIcx with which I'm creating frames for animations
which I need to send to videotape thru an SGI Iris 4D/70GT and a
minivas. Since the two machines are not connected, or even CLOSE to each
other, I figured that the easiest way to get the frames tothe SGI is
through a tape drive. I was wondering if a 1/4" tape drive exists for
the Mac which writes tapes sompatable (readable) by the SGI's tape
drive. I have TAR and UUENCODE for the Mac so placing the files in a
UNIX-compatable format shouldn't be a problem. If anyone can tell me of
a drive that WILL work, please let me know via e-mail. Right now I'm
looking at the $499 tape drives that handle 160 MB/tape, but I'm not
sure of the SGI's limitations in terms of tape length.

=============================== Mike Gaines ============================
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= WHAT is your quest?.............................I seek the Holy Grail=
= WHAT is the average velocity of a Bird of Prey?...Romulan or Klingon?=
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========================== meg5184@hertz.njit.edu ======================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: David_Goldsmith@taligent.com (David Goldsmith)
Subject: Re: nslookup not finding applelink.apple.com
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:59:12 GMT

In article <C17xyC.Ls2@techbook.com>, sagen@techbook.com (Milton Sagen)
wrote:
> 
> I've been trying to mail to applelink.apple.com but my messages keep
> bouncing.  Also if I do "nslookup applelink.apple.com" nslookup returns
> with "*** No address information is available for applelink.apple.com",
> however nslookup does report an address for apple.com.  Is
> applelink.apple.com down or what?

I don't think it's a real external host with an IP address. If you do a
lookup for record type "MX" you should get an answer.

David Goldsmith
Taligent, Inc.
10725 N. DeAnza Blvd. MS: PD/3
Cupertino, CA  95014-2000
David_Goldsmith@taligent.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ctrbdo@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (bryan d oakley)
Subject: mac->pc lotus notes?
Organization: FAA / Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:45:57 GMT

My wife uses a peecee at work (bless her heart!) and uses lotus notes
to keep track of contacts and other such stuff (I'm guessing...).
Does anyone know if there is a way she can dial up the peecee from our
mac at home and access the data stored by lotus notes?  I guess the
ideal answer is, "yeah, use lotus notes for the mac", but I don't know
if this is available, or how it could be used to access the data at
work.  Anyone familiar enough with Lotus Notes on the peecee to offer
a viable solution?  For example, can she have Lotus Notes write the
data to an ascii file which could be uploaded to claris works, or
better yet, imported directly?

I don't have many particulars, so just assume all of the hardware is
reasonable (for a peecee) and in place (modems, etc.). I'm looking for
a cheap/free solution.

This is not a major need, but it would impress her boss and make her
life a bit easier when she is working from home this summer after
giving birth to a new programmer :-)

-- 
/'''  ---------------------------------------------------------------
c-OO  Instrument Approach Procedures Automation       DOT/FAA/AMI-230
   \  ---------------------------------------------------------------
  -   Bryan D. Oakley            ctrbdo%iapa@constellation.uoknor.edu
From: lapoint@adios.brl.mil (Claude LaPointe )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: system 7 tuner
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:30:41 GMT


Just read msg on this newsgroup from
chrisj@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Johnson)
and ftp'ed from directory microlib/mac/virus
the 3 .hqx files (disinfectant, gatekeeper, virus
detective) and 1 .txt file therein.

Among other things, the .txt file stated:

    [Note: Although this note is unrelated to the T4 virus, we feel it
    appropriate and important to remind Mac users that neither Apple
    System 7 nor 7.0.1 should be used UNMODIFIED because they have the
    "disappearing folders" bug.  Users should be sure they have installed
    the (free) System Tuner 1.1.1 from Apple on these systems; versions
    1.0 and 1.1 of the Tuner are outdated or buggy and should not be used.
    Tuner 1.1.1 is available from authorized Apple dealers, from many user
    groups, from commercial networks, and on several places on the
    Internet.  Also, System 7.0.1 is *not* the same as System 7 with the Tuner
    installed; 7.0.1 is a later release of System 7. System 7.0.1 also
    needs the update installed.]

That paragraph set me to thinking about my daughters (at college)
Mac IIci, purchased with system 7 installed.  My recollection is that
it was 7.0.1 with tuner 1.1.1, but, now that I think about it, I am
no longer as sure as I would like to be.  I'm pretty sure it's 7.0.1,
kind'a sure tuner is there, and unsure which tuner it is.

How can she (a user, not a guru) determine for herself whether she has
tuner, and which version?

Thanks.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:22230 comp.sys.mac.comm:13361
From: silvers3@husc8.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Modem Makes Screen Wobble
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:38:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan23.223807.19728
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

My new 14" Apple color monitor wobbles (the picture, that is) when its plugged
into the same surge protector as my Hayes Optima 24 modem. Oddly, this 
happens even when the monitor is not plugged into the protector, but the
modem is; however, when in close proximity but plugged in separately, there is
no wobble. What the!? I'm using a PowerBook 160, but I doubt that's relevant
(although...). Any ideas?
 
-- 
Jolyon A. Silversmith __________________________________________________________
Mather House 100             Director: Civil Liberties     These opinions aren't
Cambridge, MA 02138          Union of Harvard  College     necessarily  those of
silvers3@husc.harvard.edu ________________________________ CLUH.  But who knows?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rashid@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert G Rashid)
Subject: Re: Bernoulli 90 drive?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:57:27 GMT


Look into the newer MultiDisk 150.  It can read/write the 90 disks,
but also has other disks (up to 150 Meg, surprise!).  I have had one
for a week and am very impressed with the speed and convenience.
There is a mac only (?) (also a pc only?) version, plus a version for
compatibility with many platforms (slightly more expensive).  
-- 
  | Bob Rashid (614) 292-3071 |   Rashid.1@osu.edu |
  | College of Dentistry      |   305 W. 12th Ave. |
  | The Ohio State University | Columbus, OH 43210 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kerr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Stan Kerr)
Subject: Re: carpal tunnel and mouse alternatives
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:42:34 GMT

N.W. Choe <nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu> writes:

>What I think that Kensington should do is to make a
>"downward-sloping" front
>Turbo Mouse, similar to what Apple did with the ADB mice. Remember
>that
>one? I tried turning the trackball upside down and adding the
>"april11 init"
>to reverse the directions, but it wasn't quite right. Oh well. Just
>one user's
>wishes...

The Logitech mouse has a completely rounded contour, so you can rest
your whole hand over it. I find it quite comfortable.

My vote for the Worst Mouse in the World is the Next mouse, whose keys
are so sensitive that you can't even rest your fingers on them without
depressing the keys. Tendonitis City.
-- 

Stan Kerr    
Computing & Communications Services Office, U of Illinois/Urbana
Phone: 217-333-5217  Email: stankerr@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: Michael_D._Murie@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:26:55 EST
Subject: Re: WANTED: Quicktime Developer's CD

<I am looking for a copy of the developer's CD that includes the QT movie
by the Residents of them performing 'Benny the Bump.'>

APDA will sell the Developers QuickTime Starter Kit (which has the CD on it)
to non-Apple Developers ($199 I think.) You may want to confirm which version
the movie is on - the current version is 1.5, but there was a 1.0 version.
APDA is at 1 800 282-2732

I send you this info only for if you get really desperate.
********************************************************************
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Cute quote:  Being a computer means never having to say you're sorry
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From: craparotta@frside.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Video Spigot impressions ??
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:35:58 GMT
Reply-To: craparotta@frside.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation




I'm thinking about purchasing a Super Mac Video Spigot for my Qudra900.

Can anyone give me any impressions on this setup.. Please E-mail me rather
than hosing up the net.. Thanx!!!

-
Joe Craparotta	Craparotta@level.dec.com
		--or-- ...!decwrl!level.dec.com!craparotta
		--or-- craparotta%level.dec@decwrl.dec.com

discalimer: The above are my Personal views and do NOT represent those of my 
EMPLOYER.. They don't listen to me anyway.. :-))
From: ttan@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Charles Tan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Personal LaserWriter LS (Any Substitute?)
Date: 28 Jan 93 23:34:53 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University


Now that the Personal LaserWriter is discontinued, is there a planned
substitute for it? If there is, when is it expected to become available?
Thanks for any info.

Charles
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: cmd36365@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dun)
Subject: Re: Hiding programs right after startup
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 01:10:47 GMT

ech5w@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Ewald C. Homan) writes:

>I have certain programs in the startup folder that I want to be
>hidden immediately after startup. Is there a trick to do this?


There's an app called "finder-to-front" that will bring the finder
to the foreground after startup.  This app goes in your startup folder.
You can get it via ftp from wuarchive.wustl.edu   (128.252.135.4)

    Location: /mirrors2/info-mac/Old/util
      FILE      rw-r--r--     33579  Jun 28  1991   finder-to-front.hqx


						Dun

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: edestes@pop.nih.gov (Ed Estes)
Subject: Re: Is MacTutor still alive?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: NIH
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:49:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.135453.25795@infodev.cam.ac.uk>,
gdl1000@cus.cam.ac.uk (G.D. Landweber) wrote:
> 
> Is MacTutor magazine still in business?

It's been re-named to "MacTech Magazine" and is now published by
Xplain Corporation.

USEFUL INFO:
------------
Xplain Corporation
PO Box 250055
Los Angeles, CA  90025-955

(310) 575-4343  (voice)
(310) 575-0925  (fax)

AppleLink:  MACTUTOR
Internet:   mactutor@applelink.apple.com

SUBSCRIPTION INFO:
------------------
$47 a year (US)
$59 a year (Canada)
$97 a year (International)

Hope that helps.

--Ed

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: tsandeson@mta.ca
Subject: THANKS WITH MACSBUG 6.2.2
Reply-To: tsandeson@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:03:43 GMT


  Thanks to all who replied back with info about macsbug, what it was, if
it was copyrighted software or share/freeware. I recieved MUCH info from
you on this one. To those who flamed me for telling you about where to find it via FTP anonymous.......THWACK!!!!

   I was told that it is NOT the latest version and that apple placed it
on the anonymous site themselves for anyone to download it. I merely thought 
that it was a newer version because that was the first time I saw it on there
then again I don't use the site often to know this and I was TRYING to be
helpful to those mac users out there when instead I get people FLAMING ME
for getting it and telling me I can't sell it. I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE 
PROGRAM YET!!!! since my system is kept bug free by our university mac
manager. And any problem with a program I tell them about it and let them
handle it since I would probably kill my mac if I did screw around with
it's insides. And as to selling it, I HAVE ETHICS AND MORALS THAT I HOLD
VERY DEARLY TO WHEN IT COMES TO STUFF SUCH AS COPYRIGHTS AND OWNERSHIP.

   Sorry if I rambled on,

  TSANDESON@MTA.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: Re: Gatekeeper 1.2.7 INIT conflict?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:43:18 GMT

In article <1k4k4aINN8cm@hpscit.sc.hp.com> klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui) writes:
>In article <cmhaar-260193172121@mac2867-2.chem.nwu.edu> cmhaar@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Chris Haar) writes:
>>I would be interested to know if anyone else, especially Stuffit Space
>>Saver users, have run into this or any other problems concomitant with
>>their installation of GK 1.2.7.
>
>I use GK 1.2.7 with StuffIt SpaceSaver (1.0.3--whatever, it's the
>latest version) and I don't have the disappearing Apple Menu Icon
>problem you're having.  
>
	We just installed GK 1.2.7 on our test machines here and have NOT
seen any problems thus far.  Admittedly, our test machines are pretty clean of
"evil things" (ie. no Microsoft products ;), but there does NOT appear to be
any problems with SpaceSaver (1.0.3) and GK 1.2.7.

-- 
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Director of Advanced Technology		AppleLink:	MACgician
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