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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Disk Partitioning
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:33:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara
Originator: news@auspex-gw.Auspex.COM

>Solaris-2
>has a filesystem switch which will allow other types of filesystems
>such as RFS, AFS, and a bunch of others.  I don't know if you can
>grow any of them either.

Well, whether you can grow an RFS, AFS (assuming that means Andrew File
System), or NFS file system depends on what the underlying file system
type is on the server. :-)

With any luck, those internal interfaces to SunOS 5.0 that are exposed
to file systems are close enough to those of other SVR4 implementations
- perhaps, in the case of those interfaces that are affected by
multiprocessor support, close enough to those of SVR4 ES/MP - that the
Veritas File System for SVR4 (which is apparently the default file
system in SVR4.2, a/k/a "Destiny") should fit in without too much pain.

VxFS *does* let you grow file systems on the fly, if the partition
containing the file system can be grown on the fly; Veritas's volume
manager, for doing "metadisks" (to use the Sun term), allows that.

Sun's DiskSuite unbundled product - or whatever their metadisk product
is called - might allow growing partitions on the fly; I don't know if
they've modified the BSD file system to allow growing file systems on
the fly or not.

I don't know if Transarc'c Episode file system supports it or not (the
USENIX paper on the DEcorum file system, which talks about Episode,
which is the on-disk file system part of DEcorum, which I think is now
called DFS, the distributed file system component of OSF's DCE); the
paper doesn't say whether it can be done, or at least doesn't say it in
any obvious place, and I'm too lazy to scan the whole paper right now.
From: limes@ouroborous.Eng.Sun.COM (Greg Limes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: /usr/kvm/machine on 4.1.2 machines
Date: 31 Jul 1992 17:51:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ouroborous

In article <92Jul27.174854edt.87795@maytag.uwaterloo.ca> Asokan <nasokan@maytag.uwaterloo.ca> writes:
|     lrwxrwxrwx  1 root           16 Feb 25 14:24 machine -> ../include/sun4c
|     lrwxrwxrwx  1 root           15 Apr 23  1991 machine -> ../include/sun3
| ...
|     lrwxrwxrwx  1 root           11 Jan 10  1992 machine -> ./sys/sun4m
 
| which is a dangling symlink where /usr/kvm/sys doesn't exist.

| Is this how Sun delivers 4.1.2?

Yes.

| Why was this changed?

There are no existing technical reasons for this change.

| Is there any harm in changing /usr/kvm/machine to point
| to ../include/sun4m instead (at least on those systems
| that do not have the "Sys" software subset loaded?

No problem whatsoever. Go for it.
From: shj@ultra.com (Steve Jay {Ultra Unix SW Mgr})
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: sunrpc mystery needs solving
Keywords: sunrpc netstat whatthehell
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:42:43 GMT
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies

In <1992Jul28.074202.24262@fwi.uva.nl> casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik) writes:

>quejoh@auto-trol.com (Quentin Johnson) writes:

>>I'm trying to understand some weird behavior on a Sun 4/110 running
>>SunOS 4.1.1.

>>Netstat reports a lively "sunrpc" life for an otherwise sedate little
>>workstation.  The "localhost.sunrpc" entries seem to cycle from none to
>>hundreds and slowly back down to none.  It almost seems as if running
>>"netstat" causes them to increase!

>This is a side effect of not running NIS and running netstat. Each
>invocation of netstat tries to connect to the NIS server
>to resolve port numbers. This involves asking the portmapper about
>some questions. Since netstat uses tcp (probably by specifying
>set*ent(stayopen)) you will be left with tha connection in TIME_WAIT
>state. Don't worry, they'll go away (if you don't look).

Yes, worry.  This is actually a nasty bug which Sun should fix.  If
you do repeated netstat's, each one creates several more TIME_WAIT
sockets for each one that was already there.  That is, you increase
the number of TIME_WAIT sockets by a factor of 4 or 5 every time you
run netstat.  If you do enough netstat's quickly enough, you can fill
up all the mbuf space in your machine with useless socket structures.
Never mind that the netstat output becomes pretty useless.

The solution is for the NIS routines to re-use the same socket each
time they try to re-contact the NIS server, rather than open a new
one each time.  I'm pretty sure the routines already do re-use the
same socket for talking to a server if it's there.  They need to do
the same thing if the server isn't there.

I guess I should report this to Sun, unless some Sun guy is listening
on this newsgroup and takes care of this themselves (fat chance).

Steve Jay
shj@ultra.com  ...ames!ultra!shj
Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Dagget Drive / San Jose, CA 95134 / USA
(408) 922-0100 x130	"Home of the 1 Gigabit/Second network"
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From: pjm@cshl.org (Pat Monardo)
Subject: Re: sunrpc mystery needs solving
Keywords: sunrpc netstat whatthehell
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 05:36:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.012308.346@auto-trol.com> quejoh@auto-trol.com (Quentin Johnson) writes:
>I'm trying to understand some weird behavior on a Sun 4/110 running
>SunOS 4.1.1.
>
>Netstat reports a lively "sunrpc" life for an otherwise sedate little
>workstation.  The "localhost.sunrpc" entries seem to cycle from none to
>hundreds and slowly back down to none.  It almost seems as if running
>"netstat" causes them to increase!
>

inetd opens all of the rpc/tcp/udp/ip sockets defined
in /etc/inetd.conf. i don't know if somethings happends to
inetd when netstat is run.

-- 
-- Pat Monardo
-- pjm@cshl.org
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From: cisneros@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Ernest Cisneros)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Dump parameters for a 4mm  helical scan DAT tape.
Keywords: dump, 4mm, DAT tape
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:17:07 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: na
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ

As the Subject line reads, I'm looking for the "optimal" dump
parameters for a R-Squared (vendor) 4mm helical scan DAT
tape drive. In particular, the blocking factor, dpi and size
for various tapes. 

Also, what brand names would you recommend purchasing for use
in the tape drive? 

Please respond by email.

				Ernest Cisneros
				(Geologist/Computer Specialist)
				United States Geological Survey
				Flagstaff, Arizona
				(602)556-7022
				ecisnero@leonardo.wr.usgs.gov (or)
				ecisnero@natasha.wr.usgs.gov
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From: wvs@cancer.DIALix.oz.au (W.V. Sharpe (Ore Reserve Geologist LNO))
Subject: Re: (Q) How to copy boot tapes?
Reply-To: wvs@cancer.DIALix.oz.au
Organization: Western Mining Corp.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 04:53:14 GMT

In article 29564@ccu.umanitoba.ca, mjl@ccu.umanitoba.ca (mike london) writes:
>I know this subject has been covered before, but I only
>caught the tail-end of that discussion. Any pointers
>would be much appreciated.
>
>Mike London


Talk to your local sun rep, and ask them for a copy of tputil. Or there
may be a PD version of it. It's not too flash, more like a souped up
dd, but it checks that you are reading and writing to specific media
types, e.g QIC-150.

You can't copy from cd to tape with it.

Nor can you create an 8mm boot tape(at least I don't think you can).

The reason for using tputil is because of the blocking SUN use when
creating the tapes.
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From: wilson@sundance.llnl.gov (Michael Wilson - USC )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: sparc10 info
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:03:42 GMT
Organization: Magnetic Fusion Energy - LLNL

tanm@seneca.bst.rochester.edu (Martin Tanner) writes:

>We are thinking of purchasing a sparc10.  Does anyone have
>any experience with the sparc10 which they can share with me?
>We plan to integrate the sparc10 into a net with sparc1+'s and
>sparc2's running SunOS 4.1.1.  WIll there be any problems 
>integrating the sparc10 into the net?  will we have to upgrade
>the entire net to solaris 1.1?  I should also mention that
>there is a sparcprinter on this net, the file server is a
>sparc 2, and the disks are wren 7's.  Any pointers to potential
>problems will be appreciated.

Minimum config for Sparc10 Model * is 4.1.3.  There are kernel differences
between 4.1.1 and 4.1.3, but they should only effect a handfull of programs.
I've seen no problems with a viking machine (sparc 10) running sparc2 
executables, however, there are a few viking specific problems resident
in the hardware I've used.  Those will probably be cleared up by the time
you get your machine.  
Basically, it should be no problem.

-mike
From: mario@wdc.sps.mot.com (Mario Nigrovic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SUN Login prompt missing
Keywords: Login
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:41:48 GMT
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona

Sounds like /etc/ttytab got corrupted.  Make sure that the entry
for /dev/console is correct:
	console "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" sun on local secure

You can change this on the fly and then issue a
	kill -HUP 1

							Mario

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Motorola Western MCU Design Center		fax:   (602) 821-4058
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From: skeeter@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.security.misc
Subject: Re: 0 users?
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:40:48 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

From article <1992Jul20.224045.21724@Princeton.EDU>, by mikulska@crux.Princeton.EDU (Margaret Mikulska):
> The following happened on one of our systems; I'm a bit concerned about
> it, since the only other time I saw this behavior, it turned out to be
> a security problem (to put it mildly).
> 
> A user logs in to his workstation:
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Last login: <some_date> from <...>
> SunOS Release 4.1.1-IPX (HOSTNAME) #6: Wed Feb 26 23:30:32 EST 1992
> You have mail.
>  10:29pm  up 3 days, 10:13,  0 user,  load average: 0.09, 0.02, 0.01
> hostname% users
> hostname% finger
> No one logged on
> hostname% who
> joe      ttyp0   Jul 17 22:29
> hostname% finger
> No one logged on
> hostname% finger joe
> Login name: joe                         In real life: Joe R.User
> Directory: /u/joe                       Shell: /bin/csh
> On since <date> on ttyp0       		13 seconds Idle Time
> Mail last read <some_date>
> No Plan.
> hostname%
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Why would finger and uptime show '0 user' while 'joe' is on the system?
> I presume that /etc/utmp was truncated - could there be any harmless
> reason for that?  Any other harmless reason for having '0 user'?
> 
> Any advice appreciated.
> 
> Margaret Mikulska
> mikulska@phoenix.princeton.edu

When a person logs in (normally or with rlogin) an entry in made in
/etc/utmp which is checked by finger and uptime.  When someone
does an 'rsh' instead, it will show up only with 'w' or 'who'.
	I routinely do this:
"rsh skatter -n bin/Xremote $HOST cmdtool -Wt 6x13 -Wl skatter \&"
where a script (Xremote) is run on skatter which 
1. sets the DISPLAY (using $HOST (which is the machine I'm really
on)) and other environment variables.
2. starts a cmdtool on skatter (which is better because it's a sun4 and I'm using a sun3).  
	Using this method I show up with a 'w' or a 'who' but not finger.

Skeeter Abell-Smith				skeeter@skatter.usask.ca
System Administrator				(no nifty .sig  *sniff*)
Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun Floating License for compilers
Date: 31 Jul 1992 18:09:45 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com
Keywords: compiler

In article <1992Jul31.143723.4738@nlm.nih.gov> seamans@nlm.nih.gov writes:
>Not really sure where to post this but....

There was a discussion of this in about a week ago in another newsgroup
(maybe misc.legal.computing, or comp.unix.<something>).

>The 15 minute linger is unecessary and a hindrance to the use of the
>compiler and development of programs.  There is no mention of the orginal
>user being able to re-use the compiler after he releases.

Yes, there is: "The 15 minute linger prevents you from losing access to the
compiler...."  That's the whole point of the linger time.  For instance, if
the user is running a Makefile or script, after each compilation he retains
the license so that the next compilation will work.

>  Does this mean
>that the linger time is forced on all users of the compiler?  Think very
>carefully about this -- you use the compiler for 26 seconds.  It is now
>locked out for everyone for the next 15 minutes.  If the original user can
>re-use the compiler in this 15 minute period, then the queue of other users
>can be longer than anticipated until the 15 minute value has been satisfied.

You said that you hardly ever use the compiler, so what makes you think
that two users will ever need it within the same 15 minute period?  Sites
that use the compiler more than that can purchase more licenses.

>This idle time should be adjustable by the adminstrator to efficiently
>manage the usage of the comiler.  

Yes, this is true.  The idle time should be configurable, since it doesn't
affect the ability of the software to prohibit more simultaneous users than
are licensed.

>This is a very silly game Sun is playing and smells as if the upper
>management of Sun just moved over from IBM.

I'm not sure what this means.  I assume that the lack of configurability
was just a design mistake by some programmer.  How many presidents and VPs
of $billion companies get involved in specifying configuration options of
individual programs?

>I believe we will be looking for other vendors to supply out compiler needs.

Well, the ability to choose vendors *was* the justification for unbundling.
Vote with your wallets.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
From: mshah@ece.arizona.edu (Munil A. Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: printer queue
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:33:02 GMT
Reply-To: mshah@ece.arizona.edu (Munil A. Shah)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering


	Is there any public domain program/script available which manipulate
the printer queue in a fair way. We have a problem here that sometime some
user send large files(thesis etc.) to the printer and keep it busy for a long
time.  It is a waste of system administrator's time to keep an eye on the 
queue and schedules the job by lpc.  So we were wondering if there is any
program/script available which automatically schedules the printer queue in
a fair way.(For example small jobs are given priority over large job).
Presumably, fair scheduling policy can not be just sorting jobs by size.

Munil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: aburt@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (Andrew Burt)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: making Sun DNS hostname resolving work without running NIS
Keywords: Sun DNS resolve resolving NIS name nameserver
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 02:56:10 GMT

Just saw this thread; went through it recently -- here's my hack...
Potential problem identification welcome...

I set up the host to run NIS with itself as its own NIS domain (i.e.,
NIS domain = nyx.cs.du.edu; hostname = nyx; DNS domain = cs.du.edu).

Seems to be semi-happy.
-- 

Andrew Burt 		   					  aburt@du.edu

      "And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped"
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From: bogstad@blaze.cs.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad)
Subject: Re: popper - Post Office Protocol Server
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:34:27 GMT

In article <CKD.92Jul23164330@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>Bill> == Bill Bogstad <bogstad@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> 
>
> Bill> 	Not true.  (At least not for me.)  I installed popper just this week
> Bill> with the BIND43 option on a SS 2 runnning 4.1.1b.  The solution to this
> Bill> problem is to use "-lresolv" on the link line to make sure you get the
> Bill> proper resolver library.
>
>Hm.  I'm pretty sure we did -lresolv also; did you maybe replace yours
>with a non-Sun version?  (If we didn't -lresolv, then we had a shared C
>lib with -lresolv in it anyway, which should have had the same definitions.)

	Yes, I'm positive that I've never installed the resolver libraries
on the system in question.  If you check out "man 3 resolver", you will find
documentation on the resolver functions with a final note at the end that
you need to use /usr/lib/libresolv.a in order to get them.  The system was
installed from a CD-ROM which claims to be SunOS 4.1.1 Rev B and a Revision
A January 1991 on the back of the jewel case.

	I've heard rumors in the past that there might be more then one
version of 4.1.1 CD-ROM.  This was with reference to the /usr/etc/fuser
command which some people don't seem to get on their system even if they ask
for everything to be installed.  (I certainly don't seem to have it on my
system.)

					Bill Bogstad
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From: boyken@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Karl Boyken)
Subject: man broken for some commands
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:25:50 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., U. of Iowa

I'm a novice Sun administrator, so please bear with me if this is something
obvious.  When a non-root user tries to do man on some commands (lpc and
xinit are a couple), man tries to reformat the man pages to a printer.  Man
for other commands works fine.  When I'm logged in as root, man lpc and
man xinit also work fine.  Please email me any suggestions; thanks in advance.

*****        _My_ views, no one else's--except those I plagiarize         *****
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From: pac@rucs.faculty.cs.runet.edu (Michael Packer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: No bootparam server responding problem
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:33:20 GMT
Organization: Radford University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

pac@rucs.faculty.cs.runet.edu (Michael Packer) writes:
: 
: 	something has happened and all of a sudden all of our Sparc's
: will not boot (most of them have been powered off for the summer) and
: they have just been turned back on.  They get their IP number when
: booting then right after that they keep saying 
: 
: No bootparam server responding; trying again


thanks for everyone that responded...the problem has now been fixed..

thanks
pac
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: site customization of shutdown
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:58:49 GMT

Pete> == Pete Hartman <pwh@bradley.bradley.edu> 

 Pete> Is there any "nice" way to add tasks to /etc/shutdown, or am I
 Pete> going to have to write an "ugly" shellscript or C wrapper [...]

Well, the easy way, though it may not be nice, is to make a 'myshutdown'
script that does a 'shutdown -k' (for 'kidding'), then when that ends,
does whatever extra cleanup is needed, and a 'shutdown $realflags now'.

--
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   ``The First Amendment is often inconvenient.  But that is besides the
  point.  Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation
         to tolerate speech.'' --Justice Anthony Kennedy, in 91-155
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: pkerr@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Paul Kerr)
Subject: Re: warning from 'newfs'
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:39:49 GMT

  
Hiya,

	Here's my problem, I have a SUN IPC with 8mb RAM and the 208mb
internal, my swap partition is 32mb and /home is 32mb. What I want to do
is repartition my swap space and create a new 16mb filesystem and a 16mb
swap space. I will then use the 32mb that is currently mounted on /home
for a /usr/local filesystem and give the 16mb from swap for a /home.

Is this a good/bad idea? I know the real answer is to get more disk but
unfortunately this will have to wait for $$. Will 24mb virtual mem be enough
to run single user with not much going on? 

Any tips on how I can go about doing this without hosing my system will be
muchly appreciated!

Thanx Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson)
Subject: Re: Disk Partitioning
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:05:55 GMT

In article <13693@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
>Sun's DiskSuite unbundled product - or whatever their metadisk product
>is called - might allow growing partitions on the fly; I don't know if
>they've modified the BSD file system to allow growing file systems on
>the fly or not.

Disksuite does allow growing of filesystems.  It "locks" the filesystem
then modifies the superblocks on the fly.  When it is "locked" anything
that attempts to write to the filesystem appears to block.  You
can only grow a filesystem within a single partition or "meta"disk.

|GROWFS(8)             MAINTENANCE COMMANDS              GROWFS(8)
|NAME
|     growfs - non-destructively expand a mounted file system
|DESCRIPTION
|     growfs non-destructively expands a mounted or unmounted file
|     system  up  to  the  size  of  the  file system's partition.
|     growfs is a "friendly" front-end to the newfs(8) program.
[...]


	-David
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker)
Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 - Dump parameters
Keywords: parameters
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:38:44 GMT

In article <a_plante.711814645@clouso> a_plante@crim.ca (Alain Plante) writes:
>        We are using Exabyte 8500 with sunOS 4.1.2 My problem is that i'm
>not able to put more than 2.3 gigs of stuff on one tape. I have a few
>scripts and most of them works fine...

Your dump parameters are fine.  RTFM the sections on st:  under 4.1.2,
the tape device files allow you explicit control over whether you use
8200 or 8500 mode.  Try using /dev/rst8.

As for the total tape capacity, 5.0GB is fictional maximum from PBOT to
PEOT; depending on the tape you use, the number of write errors, and
your ability to stream the drive, you willl get between 4.6GB and
4.9GB.

We tell our users 4GB:  that accounts for streaming, tape eaten by ECC,
tape quality, and the tape labels, etc, written by our backup SW.

Your mileage may vary.

pww

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