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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help, I need some advice!
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:44:56 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <92252.104831KAJ2@psuvm.psu.edu> KAJ2@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>Also, how do you dissuade a cat from a certain behavior when loud noises, and
>a squirt gun have no effect?  Both of our kitties couldn't care less about
>being squirted or clapping hands, or a loud no!  What's left?
>
>-Karen
>(relatively new mom to Colby and Jordana)

Hemingway didn't react to squirting or yelling or clapping either.  I
think I read this on the net some time ago, actually, but what I finally
discovered that worked was hissing at him.  Of course, now he is
thoroughly convinced that I am mom*Cat*.  The hiss is not just an airy
sound, though, but a "from-the-throat" agressive sound.  Makes him stop
*anything* he is doing and wait for further instructions.  Occasionally I
have to come and collect him from someplace he doesn't belong (the piano,
the kitchen counter, etc) because of this "freeze" reaction, but it's
pretty effective!  And if I did get that from someone on the net-- thanks,
whoever you are!

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From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Mice, Cats and choking
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:17:45 GMT
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA

In article <1992Sep10.205839.7284@super.org> msmam@super.org (Margaret A McGarry) writes:
> I was told that swinging a cat back and forth
> between your legs in this manner is also the
> standard way to resuscitate a cat that has stopped 
> breathing.
> 
> Marge

I'm still not clear on how you're supposed to hold the cat. Do you hold
it under its body with legs dangling?

Steve
From: graeme@hart.actrix.gen.nz (Graeme Hart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Are humans able to get fleas?
Keywords: flea blood ingest bite collar proban insecticide
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:29:36 GMT

jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg @ U of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity) once wrote....
>
>In article <1992Sep11.142715.10098@cs.mun.ca> delphine@garfield.cs.mun.ca
>(Delphine Au @ CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland) writes:
>>I have a cat, and he has fleas.  I can see them.  They are
>>tiny, about the size of a pin head, and they jump very high
>>and far.
>>
>>I have tried many things to get rid of them, but doesn't work.
>>
>>My question is: Would I be able to catch these fleas?
>
>
>In article <17-PCNews-120beta@hart.actrix.gen.nz>
>graeme@hart.actrix.gen.nz (Graeme Hart) writes [replies]:
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>You might like to try a flea collar, combined with regular combing
>>with a flea comb.  The collar may not kill the fleas, but it will slow
>>them down and make them easy to catch.  The flea comb has teeth that are
>>very close together, so you can comb the fleas out of the cat's coat, and
>>catch and kill them.
>>
>>Fleas are hard to kill, the best way is to squeeze them between your
>>nails until you hear a crunch :)
>>
>>I don't think you'll have a problem with your catching fleas, but they
>>will live in carpets, chairs, beds etc...
>
>
>I have to disagree on several points here:
>- All the evidence I'm aware of is that flea collars (a) don't work,

I agree, some flea collars don't work on some cats, however, even on
our furriest cat, the collar does slow the fleas down noticeably, so
they can be caught and killed.

>  (b) may harm your cat, and (c) may harm you.  See the Fleas FAQ or
>  the Sept/91 "Consumer Reports" for further discussions of the
>  (in)effectiveness of flea collars.
>- Alas, cat fleas *will* bite humans.  My father has had a number of
>  cat-flea bites during some of Mortina I and II's flea infestations.

I agree, I just said you won't catch them.

>- From my experience, fingernails are just barely hard enough to
>  squash fleas -- I prefer a pair of quarters or Loonies (= Canadian
>  $1 Coin).  More practically, if you're using a flea comb, keep a
>  bowl of soapy water handy and dip the comb into it.  That should
>  kill them.  Better yet, use both soapy water *and* a pair of Loonies.
>
>
>- Jonathan Thornburg and Mortina II (alas 4000km away on an island in Canada)
>  <jonathan@geop.ubc.ca> through 25/Sep/92, then
>  <jonathan@einstein.ph.utexas.edu> or <jonathan@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu>
>  University of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
>  and (for a few more months) U of British Columbia / {Astronomy,Physics}

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 15:47:23 GMT

joanm@moe.coe.uga.edu (Joan Maxfield UCNS) writes:
: In article <1992Sep5.032546.22886@auto-trol.com> katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty) writes:
: 
:    Good idea! I want to wish a happy birthday to Alicecat (note that
:    her name has evolved from just plain Alice). I got her on Feb. 3rd,
:    and the vet estimated she was born in Sept., so Sept. 3rd is as
:    good a day as any!
: 	HEY WAIT A MINUTE! That's MY birthday!
: 
: 	Joan

Well, happy birthday to you, too!


Kathy
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Any help for a drooler?
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:51:49 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <193h3kINNk8@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner) writes:

>About that drool....  Is THAT what it really is?  Because Phoebe
>seems to "drool" a bit, but it's always through her nose.  Anyone
>up on cat anatomy?  What gives? Does it when she's happy, too.
>-- 

I've got a drooler, too.  It comes from the area around their "canine" 
teeth, as the flesh there doesn't fully cover the teeth.
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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: Kitty with Cold Getting Spayed - NERVOUS!
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:20:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.004908.1218@msus1.msus.edu> mverman@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>>...already had her sister
>> spayed.  I dread the day that she goes into heat, because I just
>> don't know if her little body can take the stress of surgery.  

>Cindy, do you mean that you would have her neutered when she goes into
>heat?

Actually, when my previous cats have gone into heat, I always 
waited until the cycle was complete, as all the vets I have
ever talked to have said they cahrge more if the cat is in 
heat or pregnant.  What the above meant was the I dread the day
that she starts her first heat cycle, because that would mean
that she is due for a trip to the vet soon, and I don't know
if she can withstand surgery.

>"... aAn adult female should never, unless it is vital, be spayed when
>in season,as her reproductive organs are enlarged and active, and there is a
>greater chance of complications."  Wright and Walters, The Book of the Cat,
>1980.

>Some vets will not spay at this time unless there is a medical indication
>for it.  Check with your vet.

I am not planning on having her spayed while she is in heat.

>> I just pray that because she seems to be a little undeveloped, that
>> she will not go into heat.

>Best of luck with your kitties,

Thanks

>... Shu

Cindy
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: coimay@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu ( LAURA CARRIERE)
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
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Organization: The unofficial LSU news node
Distribution:  world
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:40:22 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-12148]: sn01.sncc.lsu.edu

Okay, here's my theory.  I call it the Special Theory.

Cat walks into a room and wants to sit on the floor.  My, what a lot of
floor to chose from, thinks Cat.  Where shall I sit?  Hmmm, there's a
spot over there that's different, it has newspaper on it.  Now, if that
spot's different, it must be special and since I'm the most Special
Creature on the planet, it must be meant for me.

Now, this theory can (easily) be proven be covering the entire floor of
a (small) room with newspaper, leaving only one or two unpapered cat-
sized spots.  Add one cat.  Observe where the cat decides to sit.

No, I haven't done this and no, I'm not planning to, but it would be
interesting.  :-)  :-)

  Laura Carriere
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com (Mike Sorrelle)
Subject: Re: I NEED A NAME
Reply-To: maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Dullsville (as in Huntsville), AL
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:02:14 GMT

In article <jll-080992114057@wplmacd-56.doc.ic.ac.uk>, jll@doc.ic.ac.uk (Janice ) writes:
|> HI,
|> 
|> 
|> TONITE MY PARTNER AND I HAVE GOT THE IMMENSE PLEASURE OF BRINGING
|> HOME A NEW 10WEEK OLD TOM KITTEN.  HE IS VERY FLUFFY 
|> WITH GREY AND WHITE PATCHES AND A BLACK SPOTTY NOSE.
                       ^^^^^^^
You came up with a good one right there -- "Patches"

|> THE ONLY PROBLEM IS - WHAT TO NAME HIM?  SO FAR WE 
|> HAVE COME UP WITH SMOKEY, BADGER, ARCHIE AND MICKIE.
|> HAS ANYONE ANY *GOOD* SUGGESTIONS FOR A PRETTY GREY AND WHITE
|> KITTEN?
|> 
|> TU IN ADVANCE
|> 
|> Janice AND Marcus.

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From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Should I get a second kitten?
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:45:05 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

It took 1 1/2 years for KC to completely get used to Oreo.  I adopted
8 year old neutered-male Oreo when spayed-female KC was 3 and I'd had
her as an only cat for 2 years - she was royally pissed.  It didn't
help that Oreo's bigger than her, and, as soon as he realized she was
afraid of him, became a big bully.  For a while I thought I was going
to have to get rid of him, but they eventually worked things out, and
although I wouldn't exactly call them best friends now, do tolerate
each other and occasionally even play with each other.  

Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.boeing.com  // or uunet!bcstec!voodoo!das 
Organization: Business Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:23:48 -0400 
From: Diane Gibson <dg0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Veggie treats

dowling@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Marie Dowling) asks:

>My six-month old has developed a fondness for green beans and carrots. 
>I give him maybe two beans every other day as a treat. Any harm in 
>this?  ... So any problems with allowing him vegetables?

I think vegetables are an ideal treat, if the cat will eat them.  When a
previous cat of mine (RIP) was on medication that made her hungry all
the time, the vet suggested we put out vegetables for her to eat between
meals -- to give her something to nibble and keep her from getting too
fat.  We found she liked canned Veg-All, so she got some every day.

Good way to keep your kitty thin and happy,

Diane and Suki
Carnegie Mellon University
From: SDOGGETT@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Hartz Blockade???
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:33:43 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs


   I regret it now, but after 1 year I have let Squeaky out of the house.  At f
irst it was to be on the portch with me.  You know the rest, I'm a softy.  I go
t her a flea collar, yet doubt how well they repell fleas.  I found on clearanc
e, some Hartz Blockage.  It's supposeto repell fleas and work for 30 days.  Doe
s anyone have any experience with it?  It just seems to me that at one time I h
eard some bad reports.  I would guess possibly a reaction.  Squeaky already see
ms a we bit irritated by the collar (occasional scratching in it's general area
).  I won't take any chances with the Blockade until I get other's opinion.  Th
anks in advance for your help.  Spencer Doggett.
From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: "Killing" Socks
Date: 7 Sep 92 08:17:32 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

I read an article in a local newspaper about a cat who's got a thing
about shoes.  It's a Siamese called Buster that loves finding and
bringing home shoes, and stuffing them under the couch in the
living room.  Apparrantly Buster has brought a mismatched pair of
Reeboks home, and his 'owner' can't work out who they belong to
(hence the article!).
  What is it with cats and feet - yuk!

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From: isc40041@nusunix3.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Re: Mice, Cats and choking
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:23:40 GMT


Hi


u mean swinging LEFT-to-RIGHT   OR    FRONT-to-BACK ?




george
From: ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Any help for a drooler?
Date: 15 Sep 1992 02:17:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


About that drool....  Is THAT what it really is?  Because Phoebe
seems to "drool" a bit, but it's always through her nose.  Anyone
up on cat anatomy?  What gives? Does it when she's happy, too.
--
From: wombat@claris.com (Scott Lindsey)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
Date: 16 Sep 92 03:37:10 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation, Vancouver WA
Wombat: yes
Number: 30588

In article <postmast.803.716221363@navi.up.ac.za>, postmast@navi.up.ac.za writes:
> In article <GIBSON.92Sep8080732@dl5000.bc.edu> gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep6.153454.4128@auto-trol.com> katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty) writes:
> >> coimay@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu ( LAURA CARRIERE) writes:
> >> : Cat walks into a room and wants to sit on the floor.  My, what a lot of
> >> : floor to chose from, thinks Cat.  Where shall I sit?  Hmmm, there's a
> >> : spot over there that's different, it has newspaper on it.  Now, if that
> >> : spot's different, it must be special and since I'm the most Special
> >> : Creature on the planet, it must be meant for me.
> >> : 
> >>
> >
> >There must be a corollary that explains why my cat would crawl under the
> >paper to sit.
> 
> According to my uncle, who has stud cattle, any small animal, e.g. calf, 
> will automatically lift it's head and start suckling when it encounters a 
> dark object above it (his explanation when a calf started sucking on me 
> behind when I walked past it!). So maybe the 'under something dark' is a 
> leftover from kitten days?

But what about why my cat will dart under a newspaper and attack/play with it.
A stack of newspaper doesn't stay one for long in my household.  I think she
just likes being under things, and a newspaper is an interesting thing to be
under (it moves!).


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:19:31 -0400 
From: Meg Alison Veily <mv0t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What do cats prefer? House or Owner (owned)?
	<1992Sep9.214545.28747@athena.cs.uga.edu>


>>little one with me.  Only I have to ask: which is the least
>>traumatic for a middle-aged (8) cat -- packing up and leaving
>>his estate or staying on his territory abandoned by his "special
>>person"?

My cat (who is only about 2) has lived in two different places, and when
we moved, she adapted very quickly to our new apartment. (Of course, it
is much nicer, and had lots of window sills for her to sit on).
Conversely, when I have left for short trips (a week or even less), my
apartment mates say that she gets all weird and cries alot. From my
experience I would say that the owner is more important to the cat than
the house. (Besides, what is the difference? Cats think they own
EVERYTHING anyway!)

-Meg
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Need info on Feline Leukemia
Date: 15 Sep 92 07:08:03 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Sep15.031804.2237@newshost.unh.edu>, K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa) writes:
> In <1992Sep13.172356.12211@frcs.Alt.ZA> linda@frcs.Alt.ZA writes:
> 
>> Thus spake K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa):
>> 
>> > 1.  Will my other two cats be at risk if they're up to date with their
>> > vaccinations?
>> 
>> Just one addition to Kay's good advice: at least one bunch of people
>> have done some research recently which shows that the vaccine is
>> unlikely to make much difference, one way or another.
> 
> Then why do we bother vaccinating them?  What proof do they have?  What
> kind of qualifications do they have to be conducting "research"?
> (If you know, that is).

Might be an OK bit of research, too --  no way to judge w/o reading it
and seeing what the population parameters were, statistical methods, 
followup time, etc.   We (the scientific community) are also seeing 
a LOT more immunological-related disease -- hyperimmunity, vaccine
failures, hypoimmunity, autoimmune disorders-- than we were 20-50
years ago.  Is this just because we're better at diagnosis, or what?
It's tempting to link this to some environmental causes (average
sperm count in human males is supposed to have dropped 50% in the
last 50 years), but really, we just dunno.  Work continues.

Kay Klier   Biology Dept  UNI
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: joannee@sco.COM (Joanne Eglash)
Subject: Re: a paranoid little cat
Reply-To: joannee@fscott.UUCP (Joanne Eglash)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 18:17:03 GMT


Yes!!! My cat, also about two years old, went through a similar
schizoid period. She started "seeing ghosts," that weird look and
startled expression cats get all of a sudden -- and when I look up
and listen, I see and hear nothing extraordinary.  She had always
been a run-and-greet-my-owner type of cat...and then about a week
ago, she vanished. I came home one night and she didn't show up.
I called and called. Then, the following night, I drove up and
there she was, rushing up to greet me just as usual.  She not only
stopped having paranoid fits, but she started curling up against my
back at night and sleeping on my pillow again -- and she had stopped
that too.
From: gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What we say; what cats hear
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:01:10 GMT
	<BuDuun.3It@csn.org> <1992Sep11.030309.8544@panix.com>
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <1992Sep11.030309.8544@panix.com> kgs@panix.com (Karen Schneider) writes:

> I say "Food?" and Darcy (AKA His Royal Highness) knows EXACTLY what I
> mean.  However, I use the same pitch and inflection each time.  I think
> they are responding to sound, not to language.  Not that he doesn't know
> how to manipulate me out of more food all the same...

Try body language.  It seems to be less ambiguous and seems to make things
clearer for the cat.  Both of mine respond to hand (body) motions at least
as well as they respond to words.  Early in the morning (when my husband 
is still asleep) I use hand signals to "talk" to the cats, because it's
quieter.  Sheba is actually trying to teach us her "sign language".  She 
used to turn her head sideways (90 degree angle) and butt the lucky 
recipient of the "pet me" request.  Now she just turns her head sideways 
w/o butting anyone and expects us to understand (she still resorts to 
butting if no one pays attention soon enough).  Both cats shake their 
heads "no" at times if they don't like something.

You're right, though.  You can tell an cat ANYTHING and, as long as it's
in the correct tone of voice, they'll be flattered.  Although I get the 
feeling the cats seem to understand some words, I have noticed they don't
seem to understand my husband as well as me, even when he remembers to use
words the cats seem to know.

Rene
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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: bathtubs
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:14:19 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <186vg8INNhbi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb771@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (S. Macfarland) writes:
>
>Lately my 4.5 month old long hair tuxedo has developed some
>kind of bathtub fetish. Any time I want to take a shower or
>bath, I have to first remove an assortment of milk bottle
>caps, spongy balls, socks, etc from the tub, and often the
>kitten himself. Anyone else experienced this? He's the first
>kitten I've had with this behavior!

Yep! My aparment building was built in 1919, and still has the original
plumbing (functional but a bit imprecise in the shower department). 
Hemingway finds the noises it makes utterly fascinating.  He'll stand on
the faucet with one foot on each water handle and leeeeeaaaan as far down
as he can.  I've found him *in* the tub once or twice, but more often he
just wanders around on the edge of it, looking insatiably curious.  He
almost fell in this morning when I was taking a bath...he figured he could
sit on my knee like usual and got one paw into the act before realizing he
was 2 inches deep in water--made a great noise, though.  :)  I suppose I
ought to be more sympathetic, but it's just too funny not to laugh.  (At
the moment he is glaring at me from his pile of blankets--he knows I'm
telling stories about him that will be an endless source of teasing when
he has grown up and begun acting his name...)

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