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From: fls@acpub.duke.edu (Forrest Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UNC Effect
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:13:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


	It looked like to me that Michigan played better against UNC
than they did against Duke.  This is a typical example of what I call
the UNC effect.  (The most woeful case of a UNC effect in 1991 was the
Clemson-UNC football game, with the NC State game a close second.)
	To put it succinctly:  UNC brings out the best in its opponents.
	I suppose this could be considered the opposite of the Magic
Johnson effect -- Magic allegedly made the players around him better,
rather than his opponents.
	Part of the effect arises from the definition of UNC as
everybody's rival.  Three ACC schools in North Carolina all point to the
Carolina game as the "big" one.  The UNC-Virginia rivalry antecedes the
existence, even, of "Duke" University.
	When it comes to basketball, there's even a logical underlying
explanation to this effect.  Dean Smith has been coaching Carolina for
30 years, and virtually every coach in the country has been studying the
Carolina system for the last 20 years.  I suspect players look forward
to playing against Carolina well before the week of the game.  (I
remember seeing an old UNC football schedule that showed Oklahoma
something like 10 years down the line and started looking forward to that
game . . . )
	Everybody hopes they can beat Carolina.  Sometimes, teams find
out they can't and lose by 40.  Sometimes, they find themselves in the
games.  And every rare once in awhile, UNC loses.
	At Duke, there is a weird sense of intimidation that has not
worn off.  It could be that the Kryzewski system is just superior, and
Duke will always be able to intimidate everybody outside the ACC (and
some inside it, say Florida State).  Or, it could be that in another
five or ten years, people will start to figure out the Duke system and
the Blue Devils will no longer be invincible.
	However you look at it, teams tend to get up for Carolina, and
that they can come out and play well night in and night out suggests
that Dean Smith is a good coach and UNC has a good basketball program.

	One exception to the UNC effect:  Women's soccer.  In the last
two years, I don't think the Lady Tar Heels played a single team that
thought they had any chance of winning.  With good reason, of course.

fls@keynes.econ.duke.edu
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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:45:44 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

>Duke-UNC should be awesome games this year!

When are these games?
 
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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Most Recent Non-conference Losses
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:54:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1993Jan7.162416.27973@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> burgin@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robert Burgin) writes:
>[discussion of Duke's winning streak omitted]
>
>	Does anyone know if it is the longest current non-conference
>	home winning streak?  If it is the longest ... ever?

Doubtful.  Kentucky's home winning streak (against everybody) of 129
games over 12 years doesn't appear to be in imminent danger of collapse
for some time yet.

>	How do other top teams compare?  Indiana lost to non-conference
>	foe Kansas at home this year, for example.  When was the last
>	non-conference home loss by Kansas?  Kentucky?  UNC?  Michigan?

Kentucky's last conference loss at home was to Arkansas on January 25,
1992.   Since that game, they've won 5 consecutive conference games at 
Rupp.

UK's last non-conference loss at home was to Pittsburgh on November 22,
1991.  Since that game, they've won 12 consecutive non-conference 
games at Rupp.

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From: atchison@harp.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: CNN/USA Today Rankings (1/11)
Keywords: rankings
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:24:31 GMT

In article <C0oznt.768@babbage.ece.uc.edu> saji@snert.ece.uc.edu (Sandeep  Aji) writes:
>
>	USA TODAY /  CNN   TOP - 25  (Coaches Poll) (1/11/93)
>       RANK	SCHOOL		RCD	POINTS		PRV
>	3.	Michigan	12-1	787(2)		(3)
>	4.	Indiana		13-2	720		(4)
>	13.	Iowa		11-2	397		(8)
>	15.	Purdue		9-2	335		(9)
>	19.	Michigan State	8-3	185		(15)
>	22.	Ohio State	9-2	97		(--)
>	24.	Minnesota	10-1	92		(--)

No one hates the polls more than me, and especially when they are based on
inflated records built on preseason mismatches.  However, I've got to wonder
if any conference has laid claim to seven Top 25 spots before.  I'd guess only
the Big East's or the ACC's of the late '80s would come close.  Any numbers?

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From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The Pick (was Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!)
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:27:03 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1993Jan12.143538.11153@dg-rtp.dg.com> willmsch@buzz.rtp.dg.com (Royce Willmschen) writes:
>had something to say about it.  If Mackey did anything that warranted the foul
>call, and I still don't think it was a foul, he lifted his arms up a bit as 
>Hurley hit him.

Thanks for admitting you saw it, bub.

THAT is a foul.

AND, since Tech won anyway, it is IRRELEVANT.

Surely there must be something else interesting going on in the world of
college basketball.

- Rob Mac K



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*        [}uke             1991 National Champions      "At least we      *
*          Blue Devils:    1992 National Champions    don't still suck."  *
****************************************************** rjm1@acpub.duke.edu*
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Lotsa Stuff
Keywords: O'Bannon Colson Kal Kidd
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:34:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <matthew.726282946@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>
>[3] UCLA and Arizona both have "sleepwalk" disease, where they tend
>to sleep through games.  Arizona has it slightly more acutely than
>the Bruins.

Purdue does this too, though I have always called it their "fog zone".

>Both teams can get up for the big games, though, which
>could make Thursday's meeting in Pauley a good one.

Well, Purdue certainly doesn't get up for the big games much.  So much for
my comparison.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: LSU Schedule/Results
Organization: ^$
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:21:48 GMT

                     1992-93 LSU Tiger Schedule

Dec.  1   McNeese St.                 Baton Rouge       W  +11
      3   Southeastern                Baton Rouge       W  +27
      5   Mercer                      Baton Rouge       W  +34
     15   Nichols St. (SportSouth)    Baton Rouge       W  +11
     16   Campbell                    Baton Rouge       W  +22 
     21   Stanford (ESPN)             Maui, Hawaii      W  +9
     22   Duke (ESPN)                 Maui, Hawaii      L  -29
     23   Memphis St.                 Maui, Hawaii      L  -4
     29   Northwestern St. (SptSouth) Baton Rouge       W  +14
     30   Tennessee St.               Baton Rouge       W  +22
Jan.  2   Drake                       Baton Rouge       W  +8
      6  -Alabama                     Tuscaloosa        L  -10
      9  -Auburn                      Baton Rouge       W  +6
     13  -Miss. St.                   Starkville
     16  -Florida                     Baton Rouge
     20   Central Connecticut St.     Baton Rouge
     23  -Ole Miss                    Oxford
     26  -Kentucky (ESPN)             Lexington
     30  -South Carolina              Baton Rouge
Feb.  2  -Arkansas (ESPN)             Baton Rouge
      7   Texas (ABC)                 San Antonio
     10  -Miss. St.                   Baton Rouge
     13  -Auburn                      Auburn
     17  -Vanderbilt (JP Sports)      Baton Rouge
     20  -Tennessee (JP Sports)       Knoxville
     23  -Alabama (ESPN)              Baton Rouge
     27  -Georgia (JP Sports)         Athens
Mar.  3  -Arkansas (JP Sports)        Fayetteville
      6  -Ole Miss                    Baton Rouge

  11-14   SEC Tourney (JP Spts, ESPN) Lexington

-SEC Games
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From: atchison@kingkong.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Cal score?
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:47:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.173153.28905@newsgate.sps.mot.com> George Paap <george_paap@email.sps.mot.com> writes:
>Does any one know the Oregon and Oregon State vs Cal scores?

I can tell you that one of Rick Barry's 45 NCAA-playing sons hit two underhand
last second free throws to lift OrSU Cal by 1.  (75-74 maybe?).

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Computer Science Dept, THE Ohio State University (NOT an Ohio State University)
		Any plagiarisms seen above are not my own...
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: #1 Kentucky hits the road
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:30:23 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

Now we'll see how long Kentucky can hold the #1 position.  Anyone want
to speculate how many weeks Kentucky can stay up there?




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From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Subject: B. Knight transfers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:42:39 GMT
Keywords: Knight, Indiana, Malcom Sims

Since it is accepted wisdom in some circles that Bob works miracles
with little talent, I was wondering.  Could a coach build a National
Championship team from Knight players who transfered or left?
Here is my list.   Can you make additions?  

Imaginary lineup 
	1.  Isaiah Thomas      		Detroit 
	2.  Delray Brooks  		Providence? 
	3.  Rick Calloway  		Kansas	
	4.  Larry Bird  	 	Indiana St.
	5.  Lawrence Funderburke 	OSU  
	6.
	7.  etc 

Does ISU coach Bob Bender belong here too? 

If the IU cooks could make better chili, they might be 
able to hang onto those Cincinatti kids!
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Subject: Re: Trash talking %^$#@*)(
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 1993 07:40:48 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1993Jan7.154018.9169@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>A recent radio report stated that the Georgia football coach thought
>that the most serious problem in college sport was trash talking.
>
>Opinions?

It isn't the most serious.  But it is a problem.
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Subject: Big 8 info
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:22:34 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


BIG 8 VS NON-BIG 8
Last year's 97-13 .882 was the all time best
This year 69-18 .790 but 2-8 vs ranked opponents.

***********
NEW STARS
Recruiting: NU 7th, KU 11th, OSU 27th, KSU 29th
Top100 preps: Andre Woolridge 16th NU; Jaron Boone 48th,
      NU; Erik Strickland 76th NU; Kevin Miles 87th OSU;
JUCOs: Mark Atkins MU; Darrin Hancock KU; Amos Gregory NU;
	Fred Burley OSU; Kevin Conley OU; Ron Lucas KSU

*************
NO 1 VS NO 2
3times it happened in the Big8

12-31-57
No1 KU 79, No2 KSU 65

2-13-90
No2 MU 77, No1 KU 71
 
3-10-90
No2 OU 95, No1 KU 77

*************
A PERFECT DAY
Dec 7, 1991.
Each B8 team played and won their ball game.  First time since Dec 3 1983
that the league went 8-0 on the day.

*************
Big 8 in the NCAA-NIT

	NCAA		NIT
KU	43-21	.672	3-2	.600
OSU	19-10	.655	5-7	.417
OU	20-13	.606	8-4	.667
KSU	27-24	.529	1-2	.333
CU	8-10	.444	7-2	.778
ISU	4-6	.400	0-1	.000
MU	9-13	.409	0-3	.000
NU	0-3	.000	11-8	.579

****************
UNBEATEN BIG 8 CHAMPS
NU 1916		KU 1923
OU 1928		OU 1929
KU 1936		KU 1943
KU 1946		KSU 1959
KU 1971

****************
MOST LOSSES BY CHAMP
(4 losses)
KU 1960		CU 1969
KSU 1970	MU 1981
KU & OSU 1991

****************
1991-92 Big 8 Att. Ave(includes national ranking)
10. Kansas	15,732
19. Missouri	13,300
23. Nebraska	12,997
28. Iowa St	12,407
53. Oklahoma	 8,572
55. KansasSt	 8,410
    OklahomaSt	 6,215
    Colorado	 6,075

Conf Ave
1. Big10	12,865
2. BigEast	11,546
3. SEC		11,318
4. Atlantic	10,741
5. Big8		10,621
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From: ajay@cgl.ucsf.EDU (Ajay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UNC TV Schedule Needed.
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:45:28 GMT
Reply-To: ajay@cgl.ucsf.edu
Organization: CGL

Hi Folks,

  Would anyone be kind enough to e-mail me the UNC TV schedule?

Thanks a bunch.

	---ajay
	ajay@cgl.ucsf.edu
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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: ACC Update update...
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 03:49:51 GMT

In article <matthew.726807921@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>
>>In article <C0pF6z.9oD@rice.edu> rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:
>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> [ article deleted ]
>
>>Post thine adress, good sir, so that we may be able to send thee thy desired
>>individual team reports.
>
>What's wrong, Kevin?  Haven't gotten to reading at FSU yet?
>
>Hint:  it's the address that isn't yours.

EXCUSE ME DUMBASS, but his adress was nowhere to be found in his post...not in
the header, not in the message, and not in the sig...at least not by MY news
reader. Don't go accusing me of not reading. The only reason you see his
adress in my post is as a result of the newsreader here...which does not show
the line you refer to when I edit.

>--
>
>Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
>Moo - Moo Moo  		UUCP:	...!{uunet|rutgers|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!matthew
>               		This time, *with* the oys

Kevin (who just had to stop some very impt work because of a fucking fire
       alarm...damn I'm pissed)
From: schweich@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Tim Schweich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: test
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:16:56 GMT
Reply-To: schweich@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Tim Schweich)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

This is a test. psm-3 / /(*^&
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Trash talking %^$#@*)(
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:39:13 CST

In article <1993Jan7.165524.22530@news.acns.nwu.edu> marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.154018.9169@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>
>oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>
>>A recent radio report stated that the Georgia football coach thought
>>that the most serious problem in college sport was trash talking.
>>
>>Opinions?
>
>Every instance of trash talking should be awarded with a technical.

Gee, this is ridiculous.  I know it's a bit obvious in basketball, but even
in junior high football we "trash-talked" to the other team.  It's all part
of the game.  Hell, they've always done it in boxing... :^)

>But I can think of more seeeerious problems in college sport (i.e., less
>amenable to cure):
>
>1. alumni giving money/cars/favors to players.
>2. alumni of rival schools doing (1).
>3. ugly school colors (yellow and blue, blue and silver, yellow and black...).

How about that ugly Cream & Crimson?

>4. ugly floors (usually too much paint with disgusting amount of writing.)

Ah, just get rid of the Big Sky and their blue floors.

>5. cheerleaders wearing excess clothing (hyperthermia).
>6. the absence of a free natonal television network dedicated to Indiana.

You have two:  CBS and ESPN.

>7. the coaches wearing ties and suits as if they were working for a living.
>8. the exponential growth of time to play remaining time as t approaches 40.
>9. intensional foul -- should be replaced by a fee not to exceed the last car
>   given by the alumni or the last car given my the alumni of the rival
>   school, whichever is less by the blue book value.

Gee, certain schools in Ann Arbor would have had a problem with this three
years ago.
-- 

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:59:19 EST
From: <KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Mackey's Screen on Hurley

In article <8505@news.duke.edu>, rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) says:
>
>In article <pu#@byu.edu> $garyf@SASB.BYU.EDU (Gary B. Fitzgerald) writes:
>>After watching it a dozen times now, it looked like a legal screen to me.
>>However, others watching with me thought quite the opposite.  So was it a
>>legal screen or not?
>
>The screen was legal; the forearm wasn't.
>
>If he had kept his forearm by his side, it would have been a legal play
>(and a good one).  But when he raised it just before he made contact, he
>committed the foul (as he made contact, if you want to be picky).  I
>imagine it was just a reflex, but reflex or no, still a foul.
>
>Others disagree.  But it's a moot issue anyway.
>
>- Rob Mac K
>
>
>
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>*        [}uke             1991 National Champions      "At least we      *
>*          Blue Devils:    1992 National Champions    don't still suck."  *
>****************************************************** rjm1@acpub.duke.edu*

   The pick was a legal one and I will tell you why.  According to the NCAA
rules, a screen is legal as long as the body is stationary, contact is not
made with the legs OUTSIDE OF THE PLANE OF THE BODY and finally, and in this
case more importantly, if contact is made with the arms, they also must be
within the plane of the body.  Mackey appeared to move his arms up
instinctively, and not maliciously.  His arms were within the plane of the body
which is allowed so that the players can protect themselves.
  As a former center in Division I basketball, I must say that the screen was
a big man's dream.  We dream about blindsiding small point guards, it is so
manly.  Hey, it's part of the game.  Those little point guards pester us when
we decide to put the ball on the floor in the paint, and it is one of our
ways to get back at them.  If anyone should be blamed, it should be Bobby
Hurley's teammates.  One of the first rules any hoops players learns is to
call out picks so that this won't happen, well if I were Hurley I would kick
someone's ass on my team, someone should have warned him.
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From: creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Creps)
Subject: Re: tOSU Fans Please Read
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:42:09 GMT

In article <C0AGJH.EJ4@ucunix.san.uc.edu> mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore) writes:
>What can be inferred from this?
>West Virgina Whips tOSU
>South Alabama beats West Virgina by 7
>UC beats South Alabama 87-49.

   I think it means Indiana can whip both your butts.

   ("Oh my gosh!  He used an anti-anti-woof!  That's right, a TRIPLE
DOG WOOF!")

-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Steve Creps, Indiana University
creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: fls@econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re:  UNC defeats NC State
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:01:32 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Curt Hill writes:

> Short player reviews:
     .
     .
     .
> Montross - 

Short?
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From: seifert@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Seifert)
Subject: Re: Hurley vs. G-Tech
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:25:07 GMT

In article <1is5rrINNge1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell) writes:
>
>     Could someone explain to me what the Tech fans have against Hurley in
>particular (as opposed to Duke in general)?  I dunno what I missed; the
>announcers on CBS didn't mention anything, but they (of course) booed every
>time he touched the ball.  Or is it just because he's good?  (Please don't
>start another Hurley flame war!)

Maybe it is because he is so damn ugly!  The only dispute with this is why
don't they boo Cherokee Parks even more.

No seriously, I think it is just a crowd tactic to try to get Hurley on
edge.  They did it when he was a freshman and it really seemed to bother him
so they have continued it ever since.  I don't think it bothers him anymore
except that he occasionally runs full steam into a brick wall(Mackey). `:-)
>
>...Babbitt
>-- 
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