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From: ccw@lasagne..bellcore.com (Christopher Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: C.H. members please respond! (Was: Request for LD-player comments...)
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:18:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bell Communications Research


I wrote:

>> I bought a Pioneer 3090 just before the latest round of griping.  No
>> problems with it.  No black lines, only occasional white lines, on the
>> five titles I own.  I'll be getting four more from Columbia House real
>> soon now.

In article <1992Apr10.145953.12262@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:

>Did all the discs you own come from Columbia House?

None of them have!  The first two came from the local Blockbuster
Video, two more came from a local discounter, and one from Ken Crane's.  I've been busy, so I haven't bought that many discs.  My budget is one a month...

The white lines, btw, are always short.  a few inches long, at most,
on my 27" Sony XBR, and appear to only be one scan line tall.  My
house is not impeccably clean and dust free, so I suspect that it's
dust you're seeing.

>I just asked a question about a "white" line defect that I saw in Return
>of the Jedi.  What I didn't say is that I got it, along with the other
>Star Wars discs, from Columbia House.  Several replies said that this type
>of defect is pretty rare and yet all of your CH discs have it and so does
>the one disc I've inspected that I got from them (haven't had time to check
>the others yet, though.)

I have ordered, but not yet received, the three Star Wars discs from
Columbia House. I would very carefully dust the discs with a lint-free
cloth before concluding that they are defective.

[trimmed]

>Does everyone else who deals with CH have a lot of discs with white line
>defects?  

I'll let you know...

>It may be the case that they make their money by purchasing discs
>from manufacturers that don't pass the quality control tests, but which
>still play.  

LaserDisc customers as a group are those who really care about video
quality and presentation.  If _any_ organization is intentionally
shipping second-rate products, word will probably get around, and
quickly.  I don't think they'd stay in business very long if the
quality wasn't there.

>However, what I'd really like to hear, because the Star Wars
>discs are so expensive to get through other mail order places, is that this
>is not the case and in fact your five discs and my one are just flukes.  On
>the other hand, if they are representative of CH discs, then I want to get
>out of the club while I still have the choice.

Again, _none_ of my discs are from Columbia House, yet.

>So, CH members, please report on what you've seen in the discs you've bought.

Will Do... As soon as they show up!  Pace, pace, pace, is that the
postman?  Pace ... Pace.... Pace....

>Steve

Chris
From: kayshav_dattatri@taligent.com (dattatri)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Mail order for Yamaha-DSP E-1000
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:42:34 GMT
Distribution: usa


I want to buy the new DSP amplifier E-1000 which has been recently 
released.  Where can I get this (through mail order)? And what's the best 
price?

BTW the local dealer(Sound Goods) has it for $999.00.



KD -- kayshav_dattatri@taligent.com
From: rchrist@uswnvg.UUCP (Ron Christian)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Re: Best Dobly surround movies? (Fantasia)
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:55:51 GMT
Organization: US West NewVector, Bellevue, WA

In article <7970823@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:
>  The swirling sounds around you are
>the result of someone playing with the pan pots.

That's almost certainly true, but that "someone" was an engineer in the
'30's, not the engineer who laid down the digital tracks on the LD.  The
sound really did swirl around like that in the theater originally.  Not
the greatest use of multi-track stereo, but it was brand new then.

See the supplimental disk included with the CAV boxed set for more info.



			Ron
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From: fredb@SAINTJOE.EDU (Fred Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: THX
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:45:58 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Regarding the query about George Lucas' film THX, it was actually titled
"The Electronic Labyrinth" and was a student short film partially financed
by the Navy when he was a student at USC, not UCLA.

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From: mizera@arcturus.uucp (Ellen Mizera)
Subject: Renting LDs in Orange Co.
Organization: Rockwell International
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 18:49:04 GMT

Hi! I'm looking for places in Orange county (S.Calif) that rent 
laser discs - the only one I know of is Laser City.

I'm trying to find "Space:1999" episodes on LD for rent... Anyone 
seen them?


Ellen Mizera Seim
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From: billped@wolverine.EBay.Sun.COM (Bill Pederson - nosredeP lliB)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: TR81 shortcomings
Summary: different features on Japanese model
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:08:07 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
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From: ggiergiel@vmsa.oac.uci.edu
> TR81 shortcomings (in an arbitrary order)
> <much deleted>
>
>- no intelligent exposure program, meaning the camera is unable
>   to adjust shutter speed automatically. Bright sun footage will
>   be overexposed unless you remember to change shutter manually.
>
> - lack of simple backlighting mode. Again, this is serious.

My TR81 has both auto exposure and a backlighting mode.  Of course, I bought
mine in Tokyo (I can't read the damn camera) and it may have more functions
than the U.S. version.

I will get out the English manual tonight and confirm the above.


Bill
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: reilly@nsl.dec.com (Mike Reilly)
Subject: Re: Laser Disc Clubs?
X-Md4-Signature: a6101cfb7f639daa57004eaa8fc7fa31
Organization: DEC Network Systems Lab
	<1992Apr1.222755.15716@athena.mit.edu> <7970832@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
	<1992Apr9.142200.20021@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <ku8noaINN1ho@news.bbn.com>
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:53:54


I don't know about the current rules for joining or fulfilling the membership
requirements but when I joined 4 months ago the ad as well as the membership
materials they sent me clearly stated "... at regular club prices of $29.95
or higher ..."  Has this wording disappeared from the newer ads?

FWIW - When I joined the obligation was to purchase two more at $29.95 or
higher each within the next year.

mike
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From: bill@thd.tv.tek.com (William K. McFadden)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Future HDTV Digiital VCRs?
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:09:05 GMT
Organization: Tektronix TV Products

In article <1992Apr16.025049.10023@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> an314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy Golobic) writes:
>
>In a previous article, mce@tc.fluke.COM (Brian McElhinney) says:
>
>>km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg) writes:
>>
>>>I haven't seen much discussion of this. Presuming that one of the
>>>digital HDTV systems now being tested prevails, what is the expectation
>>>for future high end consumer VCRs?
>>
>>Not much in the near future.  All near-term commercial HDTV plans are
>>for broadcast.  I would expect fiber optic cables to be next, and any
>>kind of consumer playback/recording medium to be last.  The reason is
>>that digital HDTV, with video compression, still has a bandwidth on
>>the order of 20 Mbit/second!  It will be difficult to come up with a
>>cheap, consumer, recording medium that stores 9000 Mbytes per hour.
>>(And consider the number of hours in a typical video collection!)
>
>as we discussed in my telecom class last week, an hdtv vcr would
>run about $40,000, and have little storage capability.
>
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: Showcasing the LD collection : -)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:59:42 GMT


In article <1992Apr14.132213.27324@cs.yale.edu> long-morrow@CS.YALE.EDU (H. Morrow Long) writes:
>
>In article <19920413211612.3.VU@VN.SCH.Symbolics.COM>, VU@GODZILLA.SCH.SYMBOLICS.COM (Vu Ngo) writes:
>|> Hi,
>|> 
>|> My LaserDisc collection is growing.  Since it is a sizable investment :-),
>|> I feel it deserves better exposure than just standing on a dark shelf under
>|> my staircase the way it is now.  So, I am looking for some tips as to give
>|> the collection more visibility, better display, clearer categorization.
>
>There should still be a few cabinet manufacturers producing furniture
>for storing LP record (remember those) collections which would be
>suitable for storing LDs upright (except for those oversized boxed
>sets such as Fantasia) if you want something nice looking.

When I get the time, and since I need a coffee table anyway, I am
thinking of building a square coffee table with the underside area for
LD storage, all topped with a nice 1/2" piece of plate glass. Since you
can see through the top, that would make both for proper vertical
storage AND for a visible collection.
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: TR81 shortcomings
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:04:26 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <17622@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg) writes:
=> In rec.video, killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen) writes:
=>>Now someone might point out gee you need an RM-95, RM-155, and RME-300 to get
=>>everything.  Yes but when you invest in Control-L stuff you keep your
=>>investment everytime you trade up.
=> 
=> Sorry to bourst the bubble here, but Sony is now implementing RC-TC
=> (rewritable consumer time code) on its camcorders.  The CCD-F801 is
=> the first to have it.  The feature will probably permeate the line.
=> The scheme has also been called Precision-L because it offers frame-accurate
=> editing, whereas control-L is only accurate to +/- one second.  So
=> control-L stuff may become dated.

Agreed if you want the new level of functionality.  However the Control-L stuff 
will still work - it just won't give you the new levels of precision.
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.audio
From: case@infonode.ingr.com (Bill Case)
Subject: Re: LD/CD Combi-player vs. separate components
Summary: MDP-333
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:03:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.151057.3118@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan) writes:

> >mainly intended for laser discs -- one is a temporary index marking feature
> >of the MDP-333 which allows you to mark up to six points anywhere on the disc

I bought the MDP-333 to use as a poor man's substitute for the incredible
ripoff Theta Data transport,  which is only a mildly modded Phillips
LDV-400 (sp?).  Plus I wanted to watch an occasional Laser Disk since we 
can rent them here for $2.50.  Yeah,  maybe I  shoulda bought the LDV-400
since EAD is also using it as their basis for a transport,  plus you
get a coax digital out instead of the much debated TosLink on the
MDP-333.

Some comments:

	o If I play CD's on the MDP-333 straight into a preamp,  I don't
	  think it sounds as good as an old Sony 520ES I have.
	
	o As a laser disc player,  it seems to work great.  Well,  I don't
	  get to freeze frame nubile nymphets,  but it's no big deal :-)
	
	o Are there any technical reasons why Toslink isn't as good as
	  it gets?  I hear stories about how you can bend it and change
	  the sound,  or how coax or AT&T optical are superior.  Any
	  subjective experiences or technical explanations?
	
	o If I decide AT&T optical is the way to go,  are there places which
	  add it to existing players?  How hard can it be? 


Bill Case
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: scott@ne3005.ingr.com (Scott Gentry)
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Reston, VA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 14:44:41 GMT

gary@st.unocal.com (Gary Cattelino) writes:

>I was watching TV last night and noticed the message "Presented
>in Dobly Surround Sound" at the beginning of the program.  I
>immediately switched on my Denon and put it in surround mode, but
>the only sound I got was from the center channel.  I was using
>my VCR tuner with the sound from the VCR fed into the Denon.
>Oh yeah, I was using cable TV also.  Why didn't this work??

Many things can contribute to this, however, I'll be willing to bet that
it's your cable company causing the problem.  If you can't narrow this
down further via the net, my suggestion is to pester your cable company into
telling you _exactly_ what they send out in stereo.  

In my own case, I've been pestering Warner Cable of Reston about the
quality of their audio since I moved to Reston, VA two years ago.  It's 
a sad situation, too because in Reston, using a satellite dish isn't 
possible due to covenants.  Using an outdoor antenna isn't an option
either due to those same covenants.  Here in Reston, you're either on
Warner Cable, an attic antenna, or you're on rabbit ears.  To Warners
credit, they have upgraded their system and now rebroadcast most signals
as received, however, they manage to really muck up The Movie Channel.  The
problem with TMC is nearly identical to the one you're experiencing.  They
keep blaming me, and I keep blaming them.  It's a circle.  

Time for another call to Warner.  They must be lonely.


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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: LD & S-VHS recommendations.
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:38:43 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>all low end players as I've recieved mail from my own query on the issue
>indicating that the low end Pioneers also have this "feature" -- noise.

In my limited experiences, all players are "noisy".


>Second, and this only concerns playing CDs.  It's a bit cumbersome to get
>a CD out of the players platter.  The CD sits in a recess and the only
>side of the CD that you can get a finger on is the far side of the CD.

This sounds like every combi-player I've seen.

>Lastly (and also concerning using it as a CD player), it is missing a
>"peak search" function for automatically scanning the disc for the loudest
>passage -- this is very useful for setting the recording level of a tape
>deck when making copies of CDs and I wish the 333 had it.

Do CD players these days really have pseudo peak-searches?  Do you tape CD's
that have enough dynamic range for it to matter?
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mguyott@eriador.prime.com (M. Guyott)
Subject: Life time of VCR video tapes?
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:55:52 GMT


If this group  has a FAQ then this is probably in it so if some kind soul
could email me a copy of the FAQ list ...

Here is my question:

I subscribe to one of the video tape each month clubs (Columbia House,
Star Trek Series) and I am wondering how long I can expect these tapes
to last before age begins to destroy them.  Are there any estimates
of longevity for these tapes?  Will I some day be able to purchase a
laser disc player and copy these tapes onto laser disc before the tapes
are no longer any good?

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Marc
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From: dhukill@esprit.prime.com (Dave Hukill x4056 5-1)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony vcrs with Control-L (LANC)
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:45:19 GMT

> To my knowledge _all_ current Sony non-portable consumer VCRs have 5-pin 
> Control-L jacks.  Video Review reports only 3 of the 5 pins on the 5 pin jacks 
> carry signals.  This explains why the 3 pin jacks work on the cameras.

Not true. The only Sony VHS VCR that has Control-L is the SLV-R5, and I
assume, the replacement SLV-R7. The last non-SVHS Sony VCR to have Control-L
was the SLV-676. I was lucky enough to grab one before they were gone,
because its replacement, the SLV-686 had only Control-S. I don't however
know about the new SLV-696.

Dave Hukill <dhukill@esprit.prime.com>
Newsgroups: rec.video,sci.electronics
From: jgardner@convex.com (John B. Gardner)
Subject: Re: Cheap circuit to use up camcorder battery?
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:38:01 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <JVP.92Apr3172811@curan.juliet.ll.mit.edu> jvp@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Jim Pieronek ) writes:
>I've never seen a sealed lead-acid camcorder battery.  I've used a
>number of 8mm camcorders and they all used NiCd.  Are you perhaps
>talking about the older full size VHS camcorders?

You're exactly right.  The particular model I'm actually thinking of was an
old RCA "dockable" camera/recorder unit.

So, I believe we've reached closure.  Jim's post has taken the mystery out of
battery memory.  Simply take caution that you're not dealing with a lead-acid
battery if you plan on implementing a deep discharge strategy.

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: twhlai@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Tony Lai)
Subject: Re: Recording japanese tv
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:52:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.014424.21877@v785.stanley.co.jp> janin@v785.stanley.co.jp () writes:
>Yep, I know that there is a HDTV broadcast time in Japan daily.
>It should be about 1 hour everyday, by satellite, on NHK 1 or 2.
>Not 8 hours yet.

There have been 8 hours of daily broadcasts since last November.  

>When I said that "hi def TV" doesn't exist =yet=,
>I meant that there was no worldwide standard defined yet.
>MUSE is only one of the possibilities.

There almost certainly will not be any single worldwide standard.  Europe
is pursuing a different studio and broadcasting standard, the US will
probably choose a digital broadcasting standard in 1993, and Japan may
adopt a digital system around the year 2000.

Tony Lai
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: george@unixg.ubc.ca (George chow)
Subject: Request for LD-player comments...
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 05:28:13 GMT

Hi,
  My dad's quite set on getting a laserdisc player. I've been following
most of the discussion in this group. It seems to be almost a consensus that
the -90 series from Pioneer has quite a bit of problems. However, what about 
the Sony and Panasonic? What do people think of the Sony MDP-333, MDP-605 and
the Panasonic LX-100 and LX-200? I haven't yet sat down to watch any of them
yet. If anyone owns any of the above, can you please email me with your
comments and impressions? I'll post a summary if there's anything substantial. 
Thanks.

George

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: reha@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Reha Elci)
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Summary: sure
Reply-To: reha@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Reha Elci)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:58:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.192915.16009@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> rdominy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Dominy) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr10.231633.27528@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> reha@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Reha Elci) writes:
>> >
>> >Is it my imagination or is Star Trek NG's surround sound encoded really badly?
>> >The center is quite low and the effects are way to high. I have usually have
>> >to decrease the effects quite a bit before I can achieve a reasonable balance.
>> >[...]
>> >Does everyone think so as well?
>
>Are you sure Star Trek NG is surround sound encoded?  I've never seen any
>evidence of it.
>
>BOB

Definitely. In fact, when they are in the ten fwd (you know where whoopie
work :-) you distinctly pickout side and rear conversations & bar noises.
Actually, this last one was a lot better encoded than the one they were in
this endless time loop. You could possibly not hear even hear shouts or screams
during "effects". But then if nobody else is experiencing this, perhaps my
processor has an over-active imagination :-)

Reha Elci
Newsgroups: rec.video
Distribution: world
Followup-To: 
From: meyerm@hp700.trg.saic.com (Michael Meyer)
Reply-To: meyerm@hp700.trg.saic.com
Organization: Science Applications International Corp.
Subject: Storage Boxes for 8mm Tapes ???
Keywords: 
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 00:45:41 GMT

sorry if this is frequently asked, but...

Does anyone know where I can obtain storage boxes/containers for 8mm
video tapes?  (Something that holds 10-20 or more tapes at a time and is
more sturdy than the cardboard boxes they ship in.)

Thanks in advance,
-- Mike
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