HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: capnal@aqua.whoi.edu (Al Duester)
Subject: Re:  A Lurker's Tale
Organization: Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 01:11:24 GMT


chibber@doc.helios.nd.edu (bakshi chibber) 
writes in <1992Sep1.195754.18778@news.nd.edu>

>I called that #. A man answered, said yes, that was Kiran Wagle's #,
>but that he was out and would be back on monday. I did not pursue
>...
>number on the byline. I picked up the phone and called. A woman
>answered. I asked for Kiran Wagle, and she said "speaking". I 
>explained my reason for calling ( how to post) and asked if it was
>......
>free will, and I called. Ten days later the # had changed, and
>so apparently, had Kiran Wagle. I have no problem with different 
>individuals posting under one name. I do have a problem with
>dishonesty. I will wait to post until I sort out this group a

I hate to break it to you, but I've known Kiran for over a decade, and
in that time period, he's always been a guy. I think those of us who
have met him would have noticed if he'd gone in for surgery. :)

A different name, and an effeminate voice don't automatically re/define
one's sex.
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Las Vegas
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:52:03 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink) writes:

>Some bad news for you, Cindy (and James).  Neon, lots of neon lycra, is
>de rigeur for sport climbers out here (Idaho/Wyoming) nowadays.  
>Clerks in sporting goods stores are expected to be wearing the latest,
>of course, so the jeans&flannel routine doesn't sell much softwear.

>Now, shall we check the fit on those lycra tights?

Take this to alt.lycra, where it belongs. Sheesh! these disgusting
fetishists.

:-)

--
Stef                 Where am I going, and what am I doing in this handbasket?
stef@apple.com
From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Powerful forces of nature conspire
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:48:20 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <1992Aug25.210604.11207@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:

>   Oh Lord.  Thank you for conspiring to make this, the first day of in-person
>registration at a University with one of the largest coed student populations in
>the nation, a sweltering hot day.  I will never again ask for anything again.
>My life is truly fulfilled. :)
Yes, ain't life grand....
:)
jis@panix.com
"It is not I who is crazy... It is I who is INSANE!!!"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG (Larry 'Purple' Hays)
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 17:13:44 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Technet   Albuquerque, NM
Reply-To: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG

In article <1992Sep1.143328.16047@news.acns.nwu.edu>, drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.161236.16494@panix.com> pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>
>>Well, _I_ think the most interesting posts come from Max. I haven't
>>heard anything about chicken heads in ages and ages.
>>
>>paul       peg peg peg
>
>I don't get it. Why all of a sudden are you trying to get my attention?
>[...]
> *sigh* It is
>always confusing to me when someone starts paying more attention to me
>than is warrented.

Huh?  What was that?  I'm sorry, did you say something?

(feel better?)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Larry 'Purple' Hays                                     hays@technet.nm.org

  "Don't you know you are a shooting star?
    And all the world will love you just as long as you are."  - Bad Co. (?)
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Las Vegas
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:56:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien) writes:

>james.j.dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:

>:  Monks do it more profoundly.

>Hunh.  I thought monks did it with spirit. *shrug*

Maybe there is hope for John Jung after all.
(Steve Swann's advice to him: "You're already a monk, try the libido 
instead.")

--
Stef                 Cum deliramus,
stef@apple.com       ea numina significamus             --"Profuit ignaris"
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:16:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug26.135607.11981@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>I edit james' post to be totally unrelated to his original idea:
>>
>> Lets go get stinking drunk on tequila. ...
 
Getting stinking drunk on tequila is an original idea?  A good one maybe, but...

>That sounds good.  I'm getting into  icky fights with people and saying
>nasty ugly things (who, me??) so how about Jim tells us where to meet
>and we can laugh and hug and joke with the waitrons and forget this
>particular medium that some of us (well, ONE of us anyway) is burning
>out on.
 
You guys have all the fun.

>What day, what time, and who can babysit?  :-)
 
I think Dawn is available.


-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Can we can the suck-up bit?
Keywords: encourage friendship?
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:11:52 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <1992Aug31.183938.25374@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>>enigma@halcyon.com (Matt Luders) writes:
>What, if someone who happens to be male compliments the posts of someone
>who happens to be female, this is sucking up?
>I see it as a refreshing change to flame wars.  As long as they don't get
>Isn't that in a sense demeaning the compliment and thus the person getting
>it?
>Come ON!  We're not here to drop our hankies, guys.  And those of us
>who smoke can light our own cigars.  :-)
>-Nance
Hey Nance!
	Thanks for a thoughtful and very considerate post.
Sometimes, this group seems like a version of "Love Connection"
whereby, people like to see the nasty stuff rather than read
the good.  I have noticed that you often post very inciteful
and thought-provoking posts.  I mean that they provide a large
dose of food-for-thought.  I appreciate that.  Thank you for 
being a thoughtful person.  
--Keith
From: jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Why do the lurkers / so furiously lurk together?
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:44:42 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: forney.berkeley.edu

Kiran writes:
>I must also say I am bothered by the notion that invisible people can
>read without ever mentioning their presence.  If they are not willing
>to even introduce themselves, why should I try to entertain them?

This is kind of a strange statement, Kiran.  You obviously couldn't be
bothered by it all that much, considering that you post quite a bit here.
You're free to hop over to news.lists and check out the estimates of the
size of the net.  And you really don't want all these people introducing
themselves.  If each lurker were to post one message, this would result
in around the same number of messages that have been posted since the
Great Renaming (give or take a factor of two).  The group would be
completely unusable.

It is these people (the lurkers) that subsidize you, not the reverse.  By
the fact that they are willing to read it, which provides a market and the
money to ship Usenet all over the world, you have a forum to express
yourself in.  Their access fees (at public access sites), tuition (at
university sites), or the economic contributions they make at work
(at commercial sites) are what is paying to send your bytes around the
world.  YOU certainly aren't paying the full cost of your postings.

Many people have found that talking about their personal issues is
theraputic.  The lurkers are all providing you with free nondirective
therapy -- you talk, they listen, not objecting to anything you say.
So why are you bothered by them?

>I wasn't trying to insult y'all [lurkers], just to explain that I have some
>misgivings about lurkers/lurking.  I try to post at least occasionally
>to all the groups I read so that people do know I'm out there.

How weird.  Kiran, get over it.  Post when you have something to say.
If you want people to know that you're there, then make sure that your
site is sending in an Arbitron report to Brian Reid (see news.lists),
so that the readership statistics are accurate.

If all the soc.singles readers were to post even a single article, it
would destroy soc.singles.  Don't believe me?  Do the math.  Reading
soc.singles without posting isn't eavesdropping; posting random bullshit
just to let people know you are there isn't a contribution, it's an
abuse (since it makes the group worse); commenting on every little thing
that goes by is also not a contribution either.

Now, I'd welcome more contributions from anyone who is witty, articulate,
wise, entertaining, an excellent writer, etc., etc.  But Usenet is
basically a vanity press.  The readers, not the writers, pay the bill.



--
Joe Buck	jbuck@ohm.berkeley.edu
From: cfg@cray.com (Cindy Glass)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Las Vegas
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:56:05 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <yy-nt_h.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.213353.1705@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>>
>>Anyone else getting what appears to be an email form letter come-on that
>>starts something like, I read one of your posts and thought it was
>>interesting....  ?  Just curious.
>
>Gee, that's funny -- I'm *not* getting any.  Must not be posting enough
>or something.....
>-- 
>                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
>                             @netcom.com 
>
>Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6
>
>"I 'got a life'.  Now what?"


Yep, I received one of 'those, "what seems to be a form letter" letters'.
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: we bit the suck-up  Re: Can can?
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:32:06 GMT
Organization: Over Under Sideways Down

In article <Btvp6v.LD6@acsu.buffalo.edu> swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.183938.25374@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>
>>I'd like to offer a hearty suggetion that we shitcan this "suck-up" noise.
>>What, if someone who happens to be male compliments the posts of someone
>>who happens to be female, this is sucking up?
>
>Only if it's done right.  Hey, you think it's easy?  And you know, if
>it wasn't for the terrific women on this newsgroup, it just wouldn't
>be worth it.

Stephen, that doesn't even register on the SuckupMeter. An integral part of
a suckcessful suckup is subtlety and the element of surprise. You didn't 
quite manage either one. So sorry.

Tyger  who has pilfered the keyboard from gerg 
cuz he knows that resistance is useless!


-- 
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 |  Greg Andrews   |       UUCP: {amdahl,claris}!netcom!gerg        |
 |                 |   Internet: gerg@netcom.COM                    |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Homesickness!
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:25:37 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <SCHOCK.92Aug25232424@fsd.cpsc.UCalgary.ca> schock@cpsc.UCalgary.ca (schock) writes:

>WoW!  Try out SaltSpring Island, British Columbia, Canada.
...
>ohh...  I miss 'ol SaltSpring Island already.

(sigh)  So do I.  Dammit, the one period in my life I'm not free to go
back home, and people are talking about the Canadian Rockies and about
Banff and about the Gulf Islands!  And I have to wait until November
before I can leave the U.S. because of some damned stupid immigration
policy that makes no sense!  It just isn't fair!

Anybody got a real good homesickness remedy?

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
The sun is gonna shine again / We're gonna make it 'round that bend
I'll walk another mile with you, 'cause you're my friend
The sun is gonna shine again.			- Graham Parker
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Mea Non Culpa
Keywords: everybody happy
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:45:29 GMT

In article <71931@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>enigma@halcyon.com (Matt Luders) writes:
>
>>Had I *really* been trying to suck up to you, Stef, I would have posted
>>something like this:
>> "Was this the face that launched a thousand ships,
>>  and burnt the topless towers of Ilium?
>>  Sweet Stefanie, make me immortal with a kiss.
>>  Her lips suck forth my soul; see where it flies!"
>>     -- with apologies to Christopher Marlowe (1604)
>
>**puzzlement** Like I said, it's getting more and more difficult to tell 
>apart suckups and insults around here. It sounds as if you are calling me a
>vampiric volcano. :-)

Or perhaps your kisses just rate "Magma cum laude" and make the earth
move.  (Though this thing about charing people's hip bones worries me
just a bit.) 


>>P.S. I liked your Galileo quote*  Here's another:
>
>>    "Facts which at first seem improbable will,
>>     even on scant explanation, drop the cloak which has hidden them
>>     and stand forth in naked and simple beauty."
>
>**suspicion** dropping cloaks? nakedness??? is that a quote or a come-on?
>I'm getting so confused. Should I hand you an encyclopedia or take off my 
>clothes?  :-)

Well, the two aren't mutually exclusive, so I'd say, "go for both."

Trygve   (And people wonder why I have four sets of encyclopedias in
          the bedroom.) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: walter (Walter Lego)
Subject: Re: Kiran Wagle
Followup-To: soc.singles
Reply-To: nobody
Organization: Twisted Pair Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:03:19 GMT

In article <la4b8aINNge1@news.bbn.com> dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>In article <kiran.715076280@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>>Yes, this puzzles me too.  I can't imagine why anyone would waste
>>their time getting all riled up about postings to the net when they
>>could be finding some sweet woman to take on a picnic.
>
>That's easy.  He mistook Kiran for a female, remember?  When he got corrected,
>he thought he'd made a fool of himself and he got pissed and he attacked.
>Maybe Kiran should start posting under the name "Rocko Studly" to prevent
>this from happening again.
>

Nice armchair you got there. Comfy?

						Walter

What disclaimer?
From: wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Lurkers...
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:43:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

james.j.dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
: After all we have have our reputations

That's for sure :-)

: (like sensitive).

Something like that

: Now go away.
What, stealing from Laura's .sig? :-)
-- 
"Bless me, Father; I ate a lizard."
"Was it an abstinence day, and was it artificially prepared?"
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com
From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: "want" vs "need"
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:24:40 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Sep3.175006.28165@odin.corp.sgi.com> lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford) writes:
>
>I still think some of the differences in perception may result from my having
>"settled down" 21 yrs ago for what I thought was to be the long haul, only
>to have it crumble 15 yrs later.  The old saying "once burned, twice shy"
>definitely applies here, I think.  I've learned to like myself for the first
>time in my life.  I've learned that I really am capable of supporting myself,
>of managing my finances, of dealing with life alone.  I was told by my parents
>that I'd never amount to anything, and by my now-ex-husband that I'd be 
>bankrupt within a year if I ever left him.  what a feeling of "power" it is to
>prove to myself that they were wrong.  :-)

Okay, this may be part of the difference.  I've had some long-term 
relationships (one, in fact, which ended fairly recently) but I don't think
I've felt that Oh-God-I-Can't-Live-Without-Him thing since I was 
fourteen.  Since I've never felt dependent in a material way (and never
had my parents or an ex put me down like that!  Wow, that sounds awful!) I
guess I'm still comfortable saying I 'need' people.  Then again, I'm a
youngun, so perhaps need will turn ugly on me at some point and change
my perspective to yours.  (Sheesh, I hope not.  The temptation to just
sock your ex-husband in the nose must have been tremendous).

>Your comment about the flu really hit home.  The times I miss being in a 
>relationship the most are when I'm sick.  I had to nurse myself through
>pneumonia last May, and the doctor almost put me in the hospital when she
>found out I didn't have a "housemate," in case something happened.  And
>you're absolutely right -- this is NOT the kind of "neediness" I object to.

That's grim.  I'm glad you made it okay.  Yeah, I miss that kind of thing
too.  I recently had some minor surgery and was very glad it happened 
while I was visiting my parents so I didn't have to take care of myself
for the few days afterwards- and that wasn't even life-threatening, just
annoying.

>I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think you misinterpreted me.  And
>I'd say we're probably more in agreement than not.

Yeah, I think so too.  

>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>|    /)                      | Lana Mountford    
>|   / /  __    ___    __     | Silicon Graphics  
>|__(_/__(__)\__/  )__(__)\__ | Mountain View, CA 
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

					Diamond
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: Lurkers...
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 23:10:29 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <c98gqB2w164w@depsych.Gwinnett.COM> dy@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Dr. Yes) writes:
>
>Or do people lose interest in the topic when they find an SO of their own?

No.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

So much Astroglide.  So little time.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Powerful forces of nature conspire
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:20:22 GMT

In <thurlow.715104771@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:

>In <ewillims.715001870@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:

>>	What is the point of living somewhere you can't 
>>occasionally look out the window and see white flecks of 
>>silence blanketing the world?  Or be able to roll around
>>in it and laugh with the sheer joy of living?

>(sigh)  Nice ode to winter; it makes me glad to think I'll be back
>in Edmonton, a place that has a real winter, for Christmas :-)


	May I come too, please? :)

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: The Chocolate Urgies
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:55:55 GMT

In <1992Aug28.145041.19239@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:

>In article <714991539.16551@minster.york.ac.uk> aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>>Emma Williams (ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie) wrote:

	Actually Nancy, I didn't write that bit below, that was 

	Aaron!  He lives in York.  I live in Dublin, Ireland....:)


>>	Certainly 
>>	chocolate is very necessary - I can't survive for long without
>>	it (luckily York is the chocolate capital of Northern England)

>In this area (the Midwest) we have a store called Waccamaw (formerly
>called Waccamaw Pottery) that has the coolest imported food section
>and the best selection of imported chocolates I've come across recently.

>The Swiss, Dutch, and Belgian chocolates are by far my favorite.  Viennese
>is heavenly.  German is OK.  Pass on the Czech.  Our Hershey's and Nestle's
>and Fannie May's are fine, but just not that "I've died and gone to
>Switzerland" chocolate.  Not even Cadbury gets close.  :-)

	Hey, you're in for a treat then when they finally import
hand made Irish chocolates! You think the Belgian ones are good?
These will make you think you've died and gone to heaven!:>
Butler's Irish chocolates or Lir chocolates are the best...full of 
Baileys Irish Cream Liqueur and Irish Mist Liqueur, coffee and praline
mixtures, marshmallow, coconut and kiwi fruit in white chocolate,
cappuccino and cream mixtures, dark truffles....oh god!  I can't go
on.....excuse me while I rush out and buy some! (*Licks her lips
in anticipation*)


>I've never had chocolate from York.  Want my address Emma??  :-)

	Forget York! (Sorry Aaron:)  Go for the real stuff as

recommended by an all time connisseur (or should that be connisseuse?)
 
>"If wearer is found depressed, administer chocolate immediately."  -a button.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: The Dawn of Suckups (Was: Re: Bananas)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:48:53 GMT

In article <la4bopINNgh3@news.bbn.com> dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.125914.18314@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>>
>>The best way to do a suckup big time is to ask around, find out the person's
>>real address or work address and then send them a bouquet or some other
>>suprise.
>
>Not unless the person knows you by at least e-mail first.  I'd get seriously
>weirded out to think that some unknown person had my home address.  
>

I second this big time. It is not necessarily pleasant to think that there
is someone out there with a "special" interest in me when I don't have any
idea who they are. Not a good way to get to know someone in my opinion.

Max