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From: ighosh@vlsi.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Re: IMPACT OF ECONOMIC REFORMS
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:53:41 GMT


 > > This thought is conservative ! There is one real optimistic Indian here
 >
 > > who feels the day is not far when we may have 1 Ruppee = 30 Dollars !!!!!
 >
 > > Now that's going a bit too far I think !
 > It is not entirely unthinkable. Unless the USA does something
 > about the outrageous costs of medical care and litigation
 > in this economy, I am afraid it is downhill.

 And also, the 4 TRILLION DOLLAR deficit, which is still growing at an alarming
 rate. In fact, I remember reading that the % of the U.S. budget
 being used for debt service is growing very fast ( Right now, its 20+ %. But
 if deficit financing continues at the present rate, then by 1999, such
 interest payments will account for 70+ % of the budget).

 In that case, either the govt. will start printing more dollars leading to
 hyperinflation or taxes will go through the roof. Another possibility is the
 govt. defaulting on its debt, which will lead to severe erosion (maybe
 possible collapse) in the financial markets.

 This may be too gloomy a scenario, but after seeing the machinations of the
 politicos in Washington (who are quite similar to the traditional Indian ones
 -- PVNR and Manmohan Singh excepted), I dont see any hope for improvement.

 Indraneel.
From: ps490a11@cehp13.cen.uiuc.edu (student)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: More on s.c.tamil
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:47:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I smell fish here. Particularly in the peculiar arguments
of a Mr Ravindran Suresh who clearly wishes to unite all
tamilians under the banner of some greater eelam that
goes by the name of soc.culture.tamil. Surely, if murder,
mayhem and terrorism cannot achieve such an eelam, then
why not an electronic one ? Talk about drumming up support
among expatriate tamils and gullible Indian tamils, and the
design is clear. It is well known that the chief instrument for
propaganda is the setting up of "culture centers" that mask
the frantic activity of key members who have their own
political programs. The front for all this will be those
poor culture loving sods who, having unsuspectingly championed
the cause of culture, lend credence to such a group by their
presence in sufficient numbers. 

One has read, and continues to read, the tiresome lectures
of this person. Endless arguments on the role of the Indian
government, the IPKF, the brave tigers, and those dastardly
buddhists and non-dravidians. Effortlessly he switches roles,
sometimes he is the quintesssential Che, and sometimes he is
the staunch champion and guardian of tamil culture. Seamlessly,
he integrates culture with politics, until it appears that the
survival of tamil culture hinges on the political fate of the
dispossesed tamils. But, where are these poor tamils? Look,
around you, they are everywhere. In Germany, the U.K., Guyana,
and countless other countries. Rope them in, for the message
is the medium.

If this was a language group where people would discuss the
finer points of some syntactic construct or merely beat some
poem to death, one would have no objection. But what causes
alarm is the mention of the word "culture", and the implication
that tamils, and here I restrict myself to tamils from India, have
something mysterious to discuss. Something so arcane, that tamils
from India cannot possibly discuss in SCI. They share this mysterious
bond with, say a tamil from Guyana whose forefathers had migrated
300 years ago, that neither time, distance, nor the vicissitudes
of expatriate existence can erase. My eyes fill with tears at the
thought of all those tamil brothers and sisters so brutally
separated, and who are facing cultural death in foreign lands.

The more I read postings from across the Palk-Straits, the more I
am led to believe that the quest for eelam is not merely confined
to that island. Indeed the quest for eelam is tied to the concept
of lebensraum and all those lands that rightfully belong to that
glorious tamil tradition. And just as that little bohemian corporal
who crawled out of the Viennese back-streets, dreamt of unifying
austria and Germany again, so do these gun-toting, striped mercenaries
look at Tamil Nadu. The news group is just the beginning.

-- Kautilya
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mvishnu@morse.waterloo.edu (m vishnu)
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Tamil
Originator: mvishnu@morse.waterloo.edu
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:37:23 GMT


I think it is a great idea to start soc.culture.tamil.  It is long
overdue.  I am a Tamil from Northen Sri-lanka and I hate to go thru
the entire SCI for articles of relevence to the Tamils.  SCI generates
more than 70 articles per day !!!.  

Neither Indians nor Sri-lankans have to fear that creation of sct is a
precursor to the separitism.  Dividing a newsgroups for convenience 
has nothing to do with separatism.

Using SCI is like using a single notebook for all the courses, quite an
unmanageable affair.

Meenan Vishnu
From: tolia@mixer.ecn.purdue.edu (Anish Arun Tolia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Travel by Gulf Air?
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:33:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr12.213336.15945
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr12.141336.6942@uoft02.utoledo.edu> grx1533@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.182107.1003@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, hrp@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>> I would greatly appreciate if any of the netters can post their experiences
>> with Gulf Air to India. I will try to post a summary on the net. Thanks.
>> 
>> P
>PLEASE POST THE INFORMATION RECEIVED SINCE THERE ARE MANY OTHERS INCLUDING ME
>THAT MAY BE INTERESTED .      
>THANX.
>PANKAJ (UOFTOLEDO)

I travelled to India 2 years ago on GA. All in all it was a very pleasent
experience. The food was good and service was better than most American
airlines I have travelled on. I got there on time and didnt loose any
bags. The drawback is that you will probably have to change flights
twice. Also the last stretch from wherever in the Gulf to Bombay
was like a local bus! The crowd was not what you would expect on a
airplane! But that is only a 2 hr flight. 

Hope that helps.

Anish
From: nkramesh%harpo.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nanda Ramesh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: CITY OF JOY ( Movie with Indian Actors )
Keywords: Movie, indian
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:52:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: hellgate.1992Apr15.105252.27819
Organization: University of Utah

In article <1992Apr15.154435.27885@seas.smu.edu>, prasad@seas.smu.edu (Nageswara G. Prasad) writes:

|>            It was a joy to see the movie. Though some may feel that it
|> gives a wrong side of the life in India and feel embarrased to associate
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

|> with it(as I have heard some guys saying). I feel it is an excellent 
|> potrayal of the life in the cities in India (and especially Calcutta).
|> The life in the poor localities of the city is depicted stunningly
|> original. The clarity of the film seems glaringly real. Patrick Swauze,
				     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I maybe nit picking. I don't know why you should use 'seems'
here. It is *real*. Maybe most of us haven't been exposed to 
the kind of situation's shown in the film, but that is how
a majority of people in Indian slums live.

I also can't understand the argument that the film gives only the
wrong side of life in India. Why isn't this objection made
for the other commercial films which IMO show life that is
led by less than 5% of people in India.

To me it smacks of sheer hypocrisy.....

|> read it before deciding. Anyway I didn't find anything objectionable in
|> the film.
|> -Prasad

I see you agree here.

nanda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prasad@csli.stanford.edu (Prasad Akella)
Subject: FAQ?: Information on good student health insurance sought...
Followup-To: prasad@sunrise.stanford.edu
Keywords: got any information?
Organization: Calvin and Hobbes, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:09:03 GMT


We are looking for good health insurance for international students.
if you have any information that could be of use, could you pl mail it
to me? Pointers would also be appreciated. i understand that this was
discussed on sci not too long ago.


while i am at it, could i enquire where the sci FAQ is archived. This
info might be there...

thanks
-prasad
From: un034156@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES.........
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:29:06 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

> 
> "Gujju" means the people from the state of gujarat, and I heard that they are 
> the most intelligent people from India. It seems true to me because most of 
           ^^^^^^^^^^^
> people like to make fun of great people or person in this world (By reffering 
> the joks)

	I WAS STUNNED TO SEE THAT GUJJU'S ARE AMOMG THE MOST INTELLIGENT

SPECIES UNTIL I READ THE TITLE OF THE POSTING (GUJJU'S JOKE).

I AM SURE THIS GUJJU MUST BE KIDDING.

	DAN FIELDING (ABCDEFG)
		     IMMIGRATED FROM GUJRAT.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vasavada@flamingo.ecn.purdue.edu (Nishit Vasavada)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup for travel, discount fares, etc.,
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:33:06 GMT

sdevraj@ux.acs.umn.edu (Sarvanan Devraj) writes:


> Hi Netters,
>   Sometime back a new newsgroup was formed that had discussions
>about travel, discount airfares and the sort. Could any of you
>either mail me the name of this newsgroup or post it on the net.
>Incidentally, I am not referring to the group called rec.travel,
>which is a much older newsgroup.
> Thanks for your help,
>    Sarvanan
>    Carlson School of Management
>    Minneapolis.

you are looking for rec.travel.air

Good luck!


--

Nishit

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From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.american
Subject: Marriages
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:57:15 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T

With all these postings discussing 'arranged' marriages v/s 'love' marriages, it
seems to me that both produce the same results.  People in general
still end up marrying people that are usually from the same caste, geographical
region, and economic level.  So all this talk about men 'tied to their mother's
pallu' is crap.  Besides, its an 'arranged' marriage, not a 'forced' marriage.
People get married for all sorts of reasons.  Who is to say that some reasons
are more noble that others.  


Rakesh

P.S. - Trina - you mention humor and tact.  I have yet to either. 

P.S.S - Sudha N. is indeed going to excel in Public Affairs.  With her 
        enormous postings, I still ask my self one question repeatedly.  
        WHERE'S THE BEEF????
From: devadoss@unix1.cs.umass.edu (John deVadoss)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Arranged Marriages...
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:02:19 GMT
Reply-To: devadoss@unix1.cs.umass.edu (John deVadoss)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <1992Apr14.062029.16681@csrd.uiuc.edu> ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh) writes:
>In article <sdr0hINNs0p@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> praveen@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Praveen Chandra) writes:
>>When I read the crap above, it suddenly occured to me that only two classes
>>of people could make such observations and analogy.  I was not disappointed to
>>Tell your wife the analogy and see your butt mothballed!
>
>You are not only filthy-mouthed but a racist as well.
>
>Sanjoy Ghosh
>ghosh@csrd.uiuc.edu

Would it be a good idea to have soc.singles.INDIAN ?

john

'Reality is for those who cant handle drugs.'
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: ketha@ee.mcgill.ca (KETHEESWARAN/NANNITHAMBY/MR)
Subject: soc.culture.tamil
Originator: ketha@nermel.EE.McGill.CA
Organization: Undergraduate UNIX Lab, EE, McGill University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 00:05:13 GMT



  In my previous Article I forget to mention the fact that tamils
  live in African continent(mainly in south africa) Mauritaus,
  Caribean,(mainlly in Trinidad and Tobago ) and south american 
  country Guyana. 
  Also I like to have the gruops name soc.culture.tamil
  without having any difference in international or local.
  
   Formation of this news gruop is not alianate our selves 
  from others.We can still post the articles to other groups
  like s.c.i and s.c.s-l. It shoudn't also undermind the 
  patriotism of their coutries.

   I also read one or two articles with negative opinion
  I completly reject their views that soc.culture.tamil
  will alianate tamils from others. That is absolute nonsence
  baseless.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 21:51:56 CDT
From: Shyamala Parameswaran <U15297@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: soc.culture.tamil


Why should a separate USENET group for tamil(s) be
established under the soc.culture hierarchy?

A few enthusiasts hit upon the AHA! experience in their
newfound discovery that tamils lived worldwide and were
bound in culture (more), literature (more), history
(less), politics (even less) regardless of the fact
that they lived in the Trobriand Islands or Madagascar.
Some other eager-beavers jumped on to the bandwagon
lending their fervent ardor in responding to the spirited
call "Tamils of the World, Unite!" All this is very moving.

But first let us examine the reasons why a new USENET
group for tamils is deemed necessary. The generic chant
that effervesces through all the eager ushering is: why
wade through 100+ articles to read ones on Tamil culture/
language/literature/history/politics/etc. Why indeed.
If some nanotechnology would create a remote that can
be aimed at the console, then all such endless wading
would end and misery lifted. Of course, that would
give birth to the drone subculture (as if remotes at
home and couch-potatoing hasn't already done so) but
this rambling is digressing and far be it that I get
judgemental on this. Until those remotes appear, life
seems tough in this crazy traffic on SCI.

Well, USENET is 'free', we have tasted the nectar of
democratic success in forming SCI, Alok's SCIA, RMIC,
RMIM...so why not a Tamil Internationale? Sure. Will it
have room for a discussion on whether Vengayya Sambar
tastes better at Concerns in Matunga or Olan at Ram
Krishna Lunch Home in Matunga or Idi-Appam at Sarvana
Bhavan at K.K.Nagar? Tamil culture is very gastronomic
too, Tiruppavai and Kural, notwithstanding. Then, we
can octopus-like lay claims on 'tamil' music, and wrench
what belongs to the tamils away from RMIC, RMIM. And
what about eversilver patrams which are much better in
Dadar than those in T-nagar or Pondy bazaar? Patrams,
sure as nose-studs, are an intrinsic part of Tamil
culture. And then, we can in the global unification of
netwide tamils, rejoice, float janma-patrikas, maybe
snatch a spouse or two out of this exclusive USENET
array in tamil-to-tamil bonding and really, live
happily ever after, Tiruvalluvar and Vasuki style.

So, in effect, in seeking a newgroup tamils are seeking
exclusivity, are merely branching out and not divorcing
themselves from SCI. Hopefully many such culture tentacles
will appear and maybe, just maybe, by circa 2000 the Indian
subcontinent will take over netland! I find this prospect
truly exciting.

Re. Mr. Spivak. Last I knew, it was Gayatri Chakravorty
Spivak who is a proponent for cultural pluralism both here
and through a third-world affiliation.

Yours, in Tamilness,
Shyamala Parameswaran
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 17:08:01 EDT
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Chambal wastelands (was Re: ECON--Farm Corporations)
 <92094.170011DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> <11812@tamsun.tamu.edu>

In article <11812@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) says:

>there are probably thousands of thousands acres of land doing nothing.
>Is it technologically infeasible to convert those lands into agricultural
>land ?  Or is it because of the resources required that the govt. hasn't
>given it much thought. Why is it that only the Chambal river has such
>badlands and not the other rivers in the same region ?
>

The dry wastelands, as Chambal river has generated in the region
of MP/UP border, are mostly for two reasons. First the terrain
and soil type, very dry in this case, and the second that river
changes direction every few years or so. The Ganga river also
changes its direction at many places in UP and Bihar but the
soil in those places is not as dry and the terrain is very flat.
The Ganges therefore merely generates flat sandy plains which may
be recoverable in the long run. The ravines of Chambal, as these
waste lands are usually called, on the other hand were generated
because not only the river changed direction in the region which
was very dry but was also of very rough terain to begin with.

And yes you are right. The cost of recovering the ravines of chambal
is probably too much. Therefore no one even talks about it.

regards..           Deepak

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@parvathi.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: "An Indian Independent woman" bride wanted !!
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:30:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wayne State University

In article <69976@ut-emx.uucp> vishram@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vishram P.Dalvi) writes:
>PS: Please save me from ALL those pretty girls that my parents
>WANT me to marry. Oh, PLEASE !

tere life mae pungae kyaa hain?  maa lae aayee hai yaa, yaa khudh utthaa lee
aayae ho,  faraq kaa hai,  pretty doll to pretty doll hai.  chaddh jao.

Seetamraju, Uday Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ss0 . eng . wayne . edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: MATRIMONIALS
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 23:56:10 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: soc.culture.indian
Summary: MATRIMONIALS
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

This matrimonial bull on sci is quite irritating.
A joke to all those 'selling' their "LOVED" ones through the net.
                                    ^^^^^^^


There was this guy Rajeev (Apologies to all Rajeev's)

Rajeev had met a beautiful Indian girl, and, as is the custom with 
inbred hillbillies, he went to see his father, to discuss marrying her.

"Dad, I have met the most beautiful girl (with polished wooden teeth 
and fantastic tits), and I want to marry her" he asked.

"Well son, before I agree, tell me a bit about her."

"Ok, Dad" Rajeev replied, "she is a lawyer, with a high paying job, drives
a Merecedes, cooks the greatest curry you have ever tasted, and
loves me more than anything in the world." - Wheatish complexion too:-)

"Is she a virgin?"  Dad asked.

"Yes" replied Rajeev.

"Well I'm sorry son, I can't let you marry her.  If she's not good enough 
for her family, she's certainly not good enough for ours."
From: msharma@lexington.rutgers.edu (Manish Sharma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Info needed: Univ FL, Gainesville
Keywords: Info., Univ of FL, Gainesville, Mat Sci dept
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:02:39 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hi Netters,

One of my friends in India has got admission in the Material Sci and Engg dept
of University of Florida, Gainesville.

She needs some info. about the University, the dept., the faculty,
active research areas, financial aid prospects .....

I will be more than pleased to help her make the decision about the
admissions with the help extended from you all.

I don't think the replies would be of interest to majority of the
netters. So can I request you to mail your replies to me directly at
my e-mail addr.  
In case anyone of you is interested in the replies, I would e-mail the
summary of replies to him/her on his/her e-mail addr.

Thanking you in advance.

Manish Sharma			msharma@caip.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: cregis@cs.ulowell.edu (Charles Regis)
Subject: Re: More on TN chief
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:39:31 GMT


In article <kds7oe200awT12lUgt@andrew.cmu.edu>, rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh) writes:
> I suppose it is OK to sanction the deaths of few thousand Tamils by
> 'certain' politicians. After all, they are just voicless pawns caught up
> in big & ugly geopolitical game orchestrated by mother goose.  I wonder
> if all of
> this would have happened if not for Indira Gandhi's ecxpansion plans
> including the one she had for Sri Lanka
> and Rajiv's folly. How ironic that both of their games finally got to
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> them at the end. Don't be surprised if more of your politicians fall
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ill. Rao seems reasonable(after all as Indira' envoy to Sri Lanka, he
^^^^^^

This is the problem with you people. India takes you in and gives you
shelter and you end up wanting to 'GET RID' of our politicians, disturb
the calm of Madras by using machine guns in the heart of the city,
blowing up trains(September 87 or around!) etc etc etc

> probably knows the situation) and
> seeming to play fair. But, some politicians esp. in Tamil Nadu are still upto
> the old game. This isn't about corruption or an unemployment problem
> where a union decides to get rid of the labor minister. It is about the
> continual destruction of lives and property in Norteast Sri Lanka.
> Tamils are going through hell subject daily to too many miseries.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Go ask the LTTE why, not the Indian govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> There's a war going on, you know! I don't want any Indian politians to
> treat the Tamils
> as Gods. If they can't help solve the Tamil-Sinhala problem, then don't
> play games with innocent lives. Half of them(esp. from north India)
> don't even know what the hell is going.  I don't think even you know
> what's going on.  Reading India Today, nobobody really will!  As for
> Jeyalalitha,
> who was alos an LTTE supporter, seems bent at starting at where Rajiv
> left off. Good for her!.....but how does that translate for Sri Lankan
> Tamils
> in the affected areas? You don't need LTTE or some other force... I myself
                                                                    ^^^^^^^^
> would like to see her drop dead!   One less bad fly is little more
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Another BLOODY TERRORIST just like the rest of the LTTE!!!!!!!

> relief for the
> true Tamils who have proven themselves to be worthy of their history.
> Thousands have died atleast to this avail.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: Posts on Divorce
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:39:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.181447.23059@meaddata.com> udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz) writes:
>I received another mail message some of the "divorce related" postings:-

>Just curious. Why are you posting this stuff on s.c.i, most of whose readers 
>are unlikely to face the situation the articles are talking about ?
>Divorce implies an availability of choices (to stay or go ) and I'm sure you 
>know as well as I do that Indian marriages come with no choices.

I just wonder how one arrives at these conclusions.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for ANUPAMA SHIKARPUR
From: srangaswamy@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:45:12 CST
Reply-To: srangaswamy@vax1.umkc.edu
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City
Keywords: ANUPAMA SHIKARPUR

Hi,
	I am Shilpa Rangaswamy . I am looking for a ANUPAMA SHIKARPUR from 
Syracuse University. Please mail me her e-mail address if anyone happens to
know it. Thank You .
   					..Shilpa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian