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From: gonnella@stsci.edu
Subject: tattoo ink
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:01:51 GMT

Found this in the Baltimore Sun, Saturday, Nov. 7th:

   Dear Abbey: I am writing in regard to the letter from "Needs to Know," whose 
mother had recently been tattooed.  (The husband of the tattooed woman was
concerned that she had put them both at risk for AIDS with the tattooing 
process.)
   You replied that the Centers for Disease Control had norecorded cases of HIV
transmission from a tattoo needle.  You then stated that transmission is
theoretically possible, and that anyone being tattooed should question that 
artist about sterilization of needles and other skin-piercing instruments.
   I would like to add to that caution: I was tattooed approximately 5 years 
ago.  I was in nursing school at the time, and felt I would be able to determine
whether or not the artist properly sterilized his instruments.  I was satisfied
with the process he showed me.
   I now have my bachelor's degree in nursing and have  been practicing for a 
year and a half.  I am also in the U.S. Navy.  The Navy doctor who gave me my
physical asked me point blank. "Whatever were you thinking when you got that
tattoo?" He went on to say that although I may have been satisfied with the
sterilization of the needles and instruments, I should have been worried about
the ink!
   "The ink," he said, "is very expensive, and it's highly unlikely that all 
tattoo artists will discard the ink after tatooing each customer, and the ink
could b e contaminated by the blood." Abby, this was something I had not even 
considered.
   The fact is, the HIV virus is very fragile, and owuld probably not have 
survived long in the ink, but there is a slight possibility.  Please warn
you readers that although sterilization of instruments may seem complete, 
they may have cause to worry about the ink.
                         -Washington State R.N.

Abby went on to thank her and say also that many states and counties have no 
regulations about health with regard to tattoo parlors.


I haven't had a tattoo yet, so I don't know how they use their ink.  But it is
something I had not thought about.

Deim
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Subject: Tattoos: Ink, Attitudes & Information
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:01:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> With regard to the "attitude" section, I think it would be useful to
-> include a section on typical attitudes towards tattoos: I know that I
-> got a pretty big shock the first time I got chucked out of a pub just
-> because I was wearing a short sleeve t-shirt and there was some INK
-> (Shock - Horror) showing.

 That's OK.  Just wait until they try it with someone who wears (and
earned) a tattoo that says "Rangers", "Hell On Wheels", or "Semper Fi."
    
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From: 93asw@williams.edu (Andrew Wright)
Subject: Ampallang
Followup-To: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: Williams College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:52:51 GMT

Hi,
After reading the pierce faq, I had a few questions about an ampallang
piercing.
The faq said healing time was 8 to 10 weeks.  How long does this preclude
intercourse?  The faq also claims that such a piercing does not give
problems when using a condom.  Can anyone confirm this, as that has me a
little worried.  
Finally, does a pierce through the urethra leak?

I'm going down to NYC this weekend and was thinking about getting one
wehile I was there.

Thanks,
Andrew

Jellybirdbigbangboom
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From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Subject: San Diego tatooeists?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:45:29 GMT

My husband will be in San Diego in February (for the whole month) and
is seriously looking to get inked while there. Are there any good
artists in that area? Does he need to set an appointment now for
February? He's particularly interested in artists that are
good/specialize in nature/wildlife.

Thanks in advance!

Aloha--

--
A. Lani Teshima (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu)       o | /_/_/ "Sea Hare"
Student, UH School of Library & Information Studies     o|<0_0>--------*
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From: alewis@lynx.coe.northeastern.edu (Drew Lewis)
Subject: Re: When can you have a nipple pierce stretched?
Organization: College of Engineering, Northeastern University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:52:53 GMT

Six months is the best amount of time to wait before stretching to a larger
size.  The easiest way to do this yourself is to get an insertion needle
(a tapered rod....not an actual needle) from say, 14 to 12 ga.   then 
soak in a bathtub for a few minutes, remove your old ring, insert the
insertion taper, pull it through, followed by the new ring, and close
the ring.  Or have a piercer do the insertion for you.

Drew Lewis  alewis@ds5000.dac.northeastern.edu / as149@cleveland.freenet.edu
           Censorship is UnAmerican  -- Rock the Vote
"The right to take drugs, the right to an abortion, the right to suicide, the 
right for people to engage in private, consensual sexual activity, be it
commercial or not, these are all interconnected.  The loss of any one of
these rights diminishes the strength of the others, giving the govenment more
control over the bodies of those it governs -- control it should never have."
From: kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: dammit [ampallang] [nipple]
Date: 23 Nov 1992 23:19:43 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: regal.cisco.com

In article <JET.92Nov20111938@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>I get no added senstation out of having an ampallang.  However, it
>does make neat clicking noises against teeth during oral sex... :-)
>


        The first time I read this, I thought it said 
        "against MY teeth".


        Needless to say, that got my full attention. I mean,
        how many guys can actually.....


        =B^)


                                -K



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						-K. Fang
From: paulh@coos.dartmouth.edu (The Incubus)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Tattooers kit
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:57:15 GMT
Organization: The Order of the Gash

In article <1992Nov22.224253.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> ecavanagh@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>> : Does somebody know if there exists a tattooers kit to buy with all
>> : the things needed to get started?

>>   If you pick up any tat-mag, you should be innundated with adverts for
>> do-it-yourself starter kits.  I've been perusing Skin Art lately and count
>> at least 10 ads in there.
>>   & "everything you need to start tattooing, instructions included!"
>>  
>>   Hope I helped,
>>  
>> -christian

Personally I think those who tattoo without formal instruction
are destroying the field...These self taught scratchers will screw 
up your body...There are many subtleties to creating a good 
technically correct tattoo...There are just too many ways of
doing permanent damage to the skin or just screwing up the tattoo...
If you are seriouslly interested in starting tattooing, apprentice
at a shop...If there is no one around you whose skill and style
you admire enough to apprentice with, visit other shops and inquire
about learning from them through the mail...while this is not the
best way, it is better than from a book...
Spaulding and Rogers book, Tattooing from A to Z, is very dated...
I do not recommend this book for anything more than general info...

please do not purchase the tools of a trade and hope to practice
till you are perfect.  The only analogy I can come up with is if
your surgeon tells you he bought the tools and the book, and is 
ready to rock and roll... just too scary to me...

please do not become another butcher...these ads are inspiring
too many of those already, but if you are serious put in the time, make the
sacrifice and become a positive influence in the world of tattoos...

-paul haban
The.Incubus@dartmouth.edu
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: dammit [ampallang] [nipple]
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:56:20 GMT

well it looks like i will finally be rich enough to give myself a x-mas 
present, so... a couple questions

whats the difference between an ampallang and an apraday whatever?
i mean sensation wise not that one is vertical and the other is horizontal

specifically, as far as how it feels for you partner, not necesarily yourself
and what effect does it have on a condom

also is it possible to pierce the actual shaft of the penis?
(or better put, has anyone here done it?)

thanks

--
If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
much softer place.
				   ,
IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: tattoo ink
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:34:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Nov20.100151.1@stsci.edu> gonnella@stsci.edu writes:
>   "The ink," he said, "is very expensive, and it's highly unlikely that all 
>tattoo artists will discard the ink after tatooing each customer, 

"...because we both know that tattoo artists are for the most part tight-wad
dirtbags who would risk spreading fatal diseases to their paying customers
for the sake of a few extra bucks."

My tattoo artist squirts the ink into little ketchup cups to work...when he's
done, he throws them out.  He does *not* try to pour the little bit of 
leftover ink back into the large squirt-bottle it came from.  This is 
silly.

I wonder if this Navy doctor's information is based on anything other than
his own personal beliefs about the sanitary habits and integrity of tattoo
artists.  




-- 
Ray Shea                               I woke up this morning,
UniSQL, Inc.                           all my shrimps was dead and gone...
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
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From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: dammit [ampallang] [nipple]
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:19:38

"dwatanab" == Dana Watanabe <dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu> writes:

dwatanab> specifically, as far as how it feels for you partner, not
dwatanab> necesarily yourself and what effect does it have on a condom
dwatanab> also is it possible to pierce the actual shaft of the penis?
dwatanab> (or better put, has anyone here done it?)

I get no added senstation out of having an ampallang.  However, it
does make neat clicking noises against teeth during oral sex... :-)

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
               '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
                                "HotHead Rules!"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: c164-cs@po.berkeley.edu (Alexander Pakter)
Subject: Re: dammit [ampallang] [nipple]
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 11:43:05 GMT

In article <JET.92Nov20111938@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>I get no added senstation out of having an ampallang.  However, it
>does make neat clicking noises against teeth during oral sex... :-)
>
>--
>             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
>               '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
>                                "HotHead Rules!"

Are You telling me that I went through all that pain for nothing?  Shit.
I guess I'll have to go pierce something else.

Actually, I have been pondering either a PA or a guiche -- any comments
or preferences?  Is a guiche really as much fun as the people at Gauntlet
make it out to be?

Alex
----
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: kblack@world.std.com (karen black)
Subject: Re: Two questions
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:44:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.095714.44977@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> whitehea@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Lady in Red) writes:
>
>
>Someone posted a while back about stretching labia minora and I'm
>hoping that there were lots of responses.  Unfortunately, they must
>have expired before I had the chance to read them.
>
>Could someone please mail me, or post a summary?  Any lead would be
>helpful.  I've never even seen this subject mentioned in the
>literature although I know that Noni (a PFIQ celeb) stretched hers
>over a period of years.  
>
>
>Also, while I'm here, is there still a body modification mailing list?
>Does anyone have any information about it (assuming it still exists)?
>
>Your grateful servant,
>
>
>Rose


hi rose

i believe the msg about labia stretching you were referring
 to was the one i posted a while back.

if you want, you can email me and explain what it is you are specifically
interested in.  

i did recieve some feedback and answers to my original inquiries, though
not a much as i had hoped for  (hint, hint, that is to say i would still
like to hear  from others who have experienced or experimented with labia
stretching;)

kb




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From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: dammit [ampallang] [nipple]
	<1eroufINNeai@roche.csl.sri.com>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:19:14

"kmac" == Karl MacRae <kmac@cisco.com> writes:

kmac> In article <JET.92Nov20111938@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>I get no added senstation out of having an ampallang.  However, it
>does make neat clicking noises against teeth during oral sex... :-)

kmac>         The first time I read this, I thought it said "against
kmac> MY teeth".
kmac>         Needless to say, that got my full attention. I mean, how
kmac> many guys can actually.....

No comment. :-)
--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
               '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
                                "HotHead Rules!"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (five left and cut!)
Subject: Re: Ampallang
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 02:34:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.203217.29365@nevada.edu> clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb) writes:
>93asw@williams.edu (Andrew Wright) writes:
>>Finally, does a pierce through the urethra leak?
>
>An ampallang piercing may or may not go through the urethra.  A Prince
>Albert most definitely does and with that you do get some leakage.
>It's not much of problem as long as you remember its going to happen.

Most ampalangs, I understand, do not go through the urethra; it is pretty
uncommon, i thinks.

A Prince Albert doesn't leak much at all, when you get used to it. I added
a 2nd ring a couple of weeks ago, which I like a lot, and it leaks quite
a bit, and I'm not sure I'll be able to control it as well as I'd like.

Oh well..
;-)

>---
>Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p
>This signature is not Politically Correct, just differently worded!

Tim
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: rhiannon@netcom.com (The Lady R)
Subject: Re: pierce report  (kinda long)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:08:16 GMT

s7356911@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (DP) writes:

>         I did it.  I just got back from Boston a few hours ago, where
> I got my first two pierces -- a nostril and a nipple.  I'm still tender
> but they look nice.  I can hardly wait to show them off tomorrow.

Congrats!  As the proud wearer of 8 rings now, I know exactly what you
mean about wanting to show them off.  Unfortunately only 4 of mine are
easily displayable.  <grin>  I did, however, succumb to the temptation
to show off my new nipple pierces at one of the burgermunches.

If you have a 16 ga. ring in your nipple, be careful about playing,
though.  I've heard that smaller gauge rings can tear through the flesh
more easily.

Rhia

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From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Gold Rings
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:15:57 GMT


Now that my nipple is all healed and happy, I'd
like to replace my 12ga niobium curved barbell
(with captive bead) with a more streamlined
simple gold ring.

I priced them at the Gauntlet in NYC and was hoping
I could get one for a little less money.

Any suggestions about mail-order?

Thanks
-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: 93asw@williams.edu (Andrew Wright)
Subject: Tattoo meaning (was Re: Ampallang)
Followup-To: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: Williams College
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:41:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.012401.10103@mercury.cair.du.edu>,
tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (five left and cut!) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Nov22.211447.4693@williams.edu> 93asw@williams.edu (Andrew Wright) writes:
.  The helix will be unwinding slightly at the top.  The
> >placement will be on the line between my  left hipbone and center of my
> >foot, about three inches from the hipbone and about three inches long.
> 
> Do you have really short legs?
> 

No, normal legs.  I mean centered left/right and three inches down, on the
line described above.  It's not actually the center of my leg, due to
assymetrical muscle,  but it feel more symmetrical somehow.  I think it's
because it would be not only directly over the bone, but because that's
where all the load-bearing force in the leg is.  As for the height
placement, the point is that it is directly on the level of my reproducive
organs.  If you don't know the biology, the double helix is supposed to be
a strand of DNA, unwinding for a replication event.  

> >(I hope that some people out there understand the joke, but it also
> >has a fair amount of personal meaning and I think it will end up being
> >a nice graphic as well, so I'm killing three birds with one stone).  
> 
> I didn't get the joke, or the tattoo placement, at all, could you elaborate
> a bit? Just curious,
> 
> Oh, wait, I think I get the joke, not certain, but yea, well..

The tattoo has several serious meanings for me, but it also serves as a
joke and a refutation.  The meanings (some of them) involve myself being
rooted in the gene, the fundamental unit of life.  The helix represents
what I am at my basest level, all else is layerd on top of that (read _The
sefish gene_ if you are interested).  The placement of the tattoo is
obviously meant to correspond with the replicating dna in my body and the
potential for passing it on. That is part of the meaning and also (in my
warped sense of humor) something of a cosmic joke.  The refutation is that
in tattooing a DNA helix on my body I am in a way, transcending the limits
of my physical body, represented in the DNA.

> 
> Tim
> 
> tell us more

my pleasure

Andrew
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From: jcarr4@mach1.wlu.ca (judy carr 9207 U)
Subject: Colouring areola
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:11:53 GMT

A question for a friend:

She has very light coloured aeroli (sp?) and wonders if there is any way to
darken them permanently (or perhaps semi-permanently, like some hair
colouring).  Or....is there any cosmetic that will not rub off on her
clothing?  

Perhaps this isn't quite 'bodyart', but does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!
 
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From: ecavanagh@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Know any Long Island,NY tatoo places?
Reply-To: ecavanagh@hamp.hampshire.edu
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:58:43 GMT

I am too many times a virgin.  This is my first note/post whatever and I am
about to pose a question pertaining to the alterations I have planned for 
my lily white skin.  On my next trip home (2 days) to Long Island (don't forget
the G is not silent) I'll be getting a very simple, kinda tiny solid black 
silouette of a hawkish thing tattooed on my left breast (boob, bouncing bulbous
ball of joy, if I may be so crude).  I know Tattoo Lou's (a classic) is a place
where a goodly number of my friends have gotten their's done, but I was
wondering if anyone might know another place on LI or in the City that comes
with high reccomendations.
From: christ@cie.uoregon.edu (Christian G. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Colouring areola
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:12:42 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


  I've seen pepole on a talk show (I think it was SJR) whose sole profession
was tattooing make-up on women who were fed up with the morning ritual of 
applying facepaint.  The job they did was +REALLY+ good.  I'm sure if you
put some well-placed questions to a dermatologist, say, in your area about
this sort of thing they might be able to help you locate a cosmetician who 
could do it.  WHo knows, it might even be covered by insurance...=)
 
  If this option doesn't pan out (and it might be pretty expensive), just
mosey on down to your local tattoo parlor and ask the boss about it.  Chances
are that not only could your friend have her nipples darkened but, hey, she
could have them darkened to any color she desired...(grin)
 
  Hope I helped, I live to serve...
 
-christian
Kudzu on IRC
--
 
When in Danger: Beat Off!

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  When in danger: beat off.
From: whitehea@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Lady in Red)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Two questions
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:57:14 CST
Organization: Alfaro Vive, Carajo!



Someone posted a while back about stretching labia minora and I'm
hoping that there were lots of responses.  Unfortunately, they must
have expired before I had the chance to read them.

Could someone please mail me, or post a summary?  Any lead would be
helpful.  I've never even seen this subject mentioned in the
literature although I know that Noni (a PFIQ celeb) stretched hers
over a period of years.  


Also, while I'm here, is there still a body modification mailing list?
Does anyone have any information about it (assuming it still exists)?

Your grateful servant,


Rose
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: selvidge@ide.com (Leah Selvidge)
Subject: Cynthia Witkin tattoos
Originator: selvidge@demo
Organization: Interactive Development Environments, SF
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 20:09:37 GMT

At the risk of coming across a total moron...one more correction. That was my
old address. New address          

selvidge@ide.com

Thanks again..that's it for now!


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