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From: Don.Kauffman@p0.f45.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Don Kauffman)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: ORGANIZING ONE'S DESK
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 07:32:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/45.0 - SPQR, Edmonton Alta

 > As far as having an organized desk, I'm afraid it will
 > never come to pass for me, although I've certainly tried.
HAve you tried the trick of taking 10 large envelopes, one for each month of the school year (in Canada it is 10), use a three-hole punch to make holes on one edge, then place these envelopes into your daily plan book interspersed with your daily planning sheet so that each month's envelope is at the beginning of each month's planning sheets. Then as you receive memos, announcements, etc. of things to be done sometime in the future, put these reminders into the envelope of the month when you will need to d
eal with that item, and don't shuffle the paper again until the month when you need to deal with that item.
This was from a "how to gain more time" seminar. It works.



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From: Lori.Weyls@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Lori Weyls)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: WHY DO YOU TEACH
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 13:58:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

WHAT A REFRESHING ITEM TO READ!! I AM A HIGH SCHOOL S.L.D. TEACHER IN
NEW ALBANY, AND AFTER WHAT HAS BEEN A TOUGH DAY, YOU REMINDED ME WHY I
ENTERED THIS FIELD TO BEGIN WITH.  THANKS!
  TNet 2.1U  ORIGIN-New Albany H/S Eagle's Echo BBS(New Albany, Ohio)



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From: cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Dan Lieberman)
Subject: New
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 04:44:15 GMT

Hello,

I am a student in a middle school in Seattle.  My school has gained network
access just at the end of this year, but I have been on the Internet
for nearly 5 years.  We may plan to run a BBS system for the students,
but not running FidoNet, just straight UUCP, or even TCP/IP.  

Do we have to do some sort of registering to enter K12Net?  I am not
certain that my school will do this, but I would appreciate any
help you can offer.

Thank You,

Dan Lieberman
cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu
From: Linda.Klughart@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Klughart)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Where?
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 15:11:27 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Don: I'm glad you recognize 'great stuff' when you see it. Uranium you say? That would explain that strange glow I see when I go into my classroom - here I thought it was some type of power saving device installed by our division board.  It would also explain why I'm the only bald female I know (go ahead try to disprove THAT with your computer! 
:-)
Anyway,  school is back in and I'll be crying on here before long. Take care...
Linda 


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From: Chris.Rowan@f2.n3820.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Rowan)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: GVN/Ch 11
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 00:11:07 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3820/2 - The Lyceum, Brownsville TX

Hi Tom!

*** Quoting Tom Winn to Chris Rowan ***

TW>   Got your reply about looking for GVN news in CH 11.  When I
TW> added it to
TW> my list, however, I see there's nothing in it at all.  Must mean
TW> my local
TW> BBS doesn't pick that up, right?  Can we operate here, or should
TW> I try to
TW> get that added?   In other words, will it be essential for me to
TW> have
TW> that?  Where will the project itself be appearing?  Is there
TW> other stuff
TW> in Ch 11 that I should be reading anyhow?

You're probably right about your local BBS.  That's strange, though. Participating K12 sites are _supposed_ to carry all 37 echos.  I really don't know whether it would be alright for you to post your messages in the Teacher Chat echo.  If you did, I could copy them to Channel 11 myself.

The project is going to take place in Channel 11.  There are 13 project channels (0 thru 12), and GVN will be on Ch 11.

I have been cross-posting requests from people who want to participate in GVN to Channel 11, so there should be quite a few messages there already.  You might try asking your SysOp about it.

Looking forward to your news . . .  Chris


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: CD-ROM
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 12:42:24 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Robin!

Thursday August 27 1992, Robin Bain writes to All:

 > I have a small rural Primary school near Dunedin, New Zealand... etc..

Sorry Robin, I am unable to help you with your enquiries about CD-ROMs. However, this is the first time that I have seen your name in K12Net.

Are you the sysop of your BBS. If so have you 'registered' with our "Keeper of the LIst" yet?

We have a custom in K12Net that our Origin Line somehow shows other users where we are operating from. Is it possible to have such an 'O line' for your K12Net msgs.

If no has yet, may I welcome you to the wide world of K12Net.

I was watching the TV News last night and saw all the snow that you are having in the South Island. Brrrrrrrr......  :-)

From Sunny North Queensland where it is beautiful one day, and perfect the next.

K12Net Council Member for Zone 3.

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From: Ken.Blystone@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Ken Blystone)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: re: Edison Project
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:47:53 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX


                       =====  FOCUS  =====

*10  EDISON PROJECT:  RESEARCH UNDERWAY
     A seven-member planning team has been working since spring
on the Edison Project.  Edison is the effort of Whittle
Communications' Chris Whittle to create a nationwide system of
private schools (Healy, USA TODAY).  Next month the research team
will unveil preliminary school designs.  Presentations will be
"closed to outsiders," according to the newspaper.
     John Chubb, a public policy researcher formerly with the
Brookings Institution said, "I was attracted to [the Edison
Project] because of the desire to show there's a way to educate
America's children, not to show a better way to educate America's
elite."
     Whittle has said he hopes his network of tuition-funded
schools will provide a high-quality education to students, make
profits for investors and offer solutions to the nation's
"crisis-plagued public system," USA TODAY writes.
     Whittle talks of using technology, giving teachers more time
with students, encouraging more parental involvement and using a
longer school day and year.  Tuition for the Edison schools will
be about $5,500 a year, the average cost per-pupil cost of a
public education.  The schools also will have no admission
standards, 20% of students will be admitted on scholarships and
the doors will be open to students with disabilities and
bilingual needs (See DRC 5/26, #8).
     Some educators say the project will not make a real
difference.  Bella Rosenberg, asst. to the director at the
American Federation of Teachers:  "If Chris Whittle really wants
to help public education, let him go work in public education."
     And author Jonathan Kozol calls the project "the first wedge
in a drive to replace public education by private schools
ultimately founded by a voucher system."  According to USA TODAY,
Whittle says government vouchers would help, but he's not
counting on them.
     Diane Ravitch, asst. Ed Sec "welcomes" Whittle's effort. 
Ravitch:  "If someone wants to build a better mousetrap, we
should say, 'Terrific.  Do it.'  If it succeeds, it'll provide a
model that will be beneficial to everyone." (8/26)


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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Info about New Students
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 00:33:38 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

TAG LINE to Your BBS!!!

I think you should ask the sysop to change the TAG Line on the BBS you are  
calling from.  It is inappropriate for an educational BBS.

Thanks. 



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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Esl/Lep Telecom Ideas
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 09:50:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

BFA>Thanks for the tips.  My biggest question right now, never
having done this BFA>before, is how long will it take the students
to get a bit confortable with BFA>the system--many have never used a
computer before. They are BFA>adults--intelligent, but more scared
than children!

Well, it's no secret that adults are more prone to "techno-phobia"
than kids. It will probably take them a little longer to become
"comfortable".

Make haste slowly! Don't try to get them doing too many things right
away. For example, I'd hold off entirely on up/downloading files
until they are well versed with mail. Try having them write short
messages to each other in one of the local echoes or "local" email.
Concentrate on logging on and using the message editor. Then start
introducing  them to the echoes and the concepts behind
"international conferencing." Call their attention to the network
address located in the origin line at the bottom of each message and
explain how it works (The "1:" indicates North America, "2:" is
Europe, etc.) Once they have reached a point where they are writing
_public_ messages freely between themselves and are beginning to
"venture out" into the international network community, you might
gradually start introducing them to netmail, the use of network
addresses, etc.. Then, once they have pretty much mastered messaging
in general, you could start to introduce them to file trasfers,
offline mail readers, etc. The final area for the "advanced"
students might be to begin showing them how to use a UUCP geteway to
send messages into the Internet.

Teach 'em how to ride a bicycle and, before long, they'll want a
Harley Davidson!

Best wishes. Keep us informed of your progress!!!

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From: Beverly Taylor <BTAYLOR@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject: ANYONE OUT THERE READING THIS GROUP
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 17:18:22 GMT

I have just added the series of K12 groups and have found no one using
these lists.  Are there interested educators in the K12 area who would
like to exchange ideas with me on the "University Hub" concept.  

This concept uses the University in a community as the main feed for K12
for such things as access to the Internet, sharing resources on campus
(voice mail/campus on-line library catalog), distance learning (specialty
classes such as advanced Math where there are no teachers in a particular
school to teach students) utilizing University teaching staff to teach a
number of locations simultaneously.  I want to discuss the recent passing
of the NREN bill that allocated billions in funding for high-speed
networking for the K12.

I am very interested in getting some dialogue going.
From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: DESKS AND SUCH           
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 12:41:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

-> > "A Clean Desk Is A Sign Of A Boring Teacher!"
-> JF> How so?
-> John,
-> Please don't question Carol on this point!
-> It was such a relief to discover that I'm not extremely messy...just
-> very, very exciting!  ;-]

Steve,

You do realize that it is an error in logic to assume that the converse
of a statement is necessarily true? (IOW--if we assume that the
following statement istrue: "If a desk is clean, then the teacher to
whom it belongs is boring." It is not necessarily true that: "If a desk
is not clean, then the teacher to whom it belongs is not boring."
(which is what you are assuming). Now, on the other hand, the
contrapositive IS true, which would be: "If a teacher is not boring,
then his/her desk is not clean.")

Actually, if it is true that a messing desk conveys exciting teaching,
than I'm an exciting teacher, too.

Sheila
                                          

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From: Steve.Larson@f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: msg #513
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 23:27:06 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <08-29-92  15:18> to <Steve Larson> about <Re: msg #513>,
Linda Klughart wrote:
 LK> Steve: Can you believe that Don guy for insinuating we 
 LK> weren't stressed? He obviously doesn't understand how 
 LK> stressful it is trying to fake out your wife, and hiding in 
 LK> basements - does this sound like "normal" behavior to you 
 LK> Don? {Yes, Don - I know you're reading this!:-) }

Well, I am certainly stressed now!  On my BBS, my messages only go as far
as 400!  I can't find #513 ANYWHERE!  ;-)

 LK> On the other hand you can't see the nervous ticks, shaking
 LK> hands etc. that I have.

I had a tic removed last year.  Now I just have a dimple!

Regards,
Steve

... Computers are not intelligent.  They only think they are.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10


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From: Rick.Scriven@f55.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Scriven)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Pen-Pals
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 23:21:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/55 - The Quest, Marysville Wa

Hi Chris,
I do not know if you remember me or not but I am the person from 
Marysville Washington that would like to set up penpals between our 
classes.  I believe I told you that I am a fifth grade teacher. 
School starts on Wednesday and as of this time I have 25 students. 
I am pretty sure by Wednesday I'll have 28-30.  We should only use 
first names of students when communicating for the time being, don't 
you think?  I intend to have them write their letters on the word 
processor first and then download them on the fido-net.  I don't 
have my class list infront of me now but I have about2\3 boys to 
girls. I will be sending you a list of first names soon.  It may be 
a while before I am ready to start but if you want to start earlier 
that would be ok too.  Please write me soon and let me know if this 
is still something you want to do. Thanks, looking forward to a 
great year!
Rick

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From: Jim.Lagerquist@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Lagerquist)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Just dropping in
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 15:43:38 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Are you the same "Rick S." who attended PSWP in 1983?


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From: Carol.Rundberg@f110.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Rundberg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: '93 Int'nl Alternative Ed Conf.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:56:24 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/110 - Physics Forum, Amherst MA

How do you define alternative education?  It has had some fascinating definitions and programs in the past.  Have you had or attended some other conferences in the past?    Carol Rundberg


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From: Maurice.Lapointe@f118.n244.z1.fidonet.org (Maurice Lapointe)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: TERC
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 15:25:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:244/118 - Renzo's Roost, Hamilton ON

I lost your message about TERC. Please me all info at this address or through k-12. 
Ecole St-Philippe
901 Francis Road
Burlington, Ontario, Canada
L7T 3Y3
Tel.: 1 (416)639-6100
c/o Maurice Lapointe


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From: kesten@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: Mentors wanted
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:36:04 GMT

Hello everyone.  This is a repeat of a message I posted to K12.ed.business
so I apologize for those who have read this already.

I am a professor in a Faculty of Education.  My job is to prepare
prospective business education teachers for the high school and
college classrooms.  This fall semester I am teaching a course called
Methods of Teaching Accounting.  I would like to find mentors for my
students.

The ideal mentor is teaching an introductory accounting class and has
had a lot of experience.  However, I am very flexible and would
appreciate any volunteers.

My idea is that the mentor and one or more of my students would
communicate through the computer and discuss issues of concern
to accounting teachers - instructional strategies that work,
classroom management, content issues, etc.  My students would
benefit from the experience of the mentors.  I assign quite a large
number of lesson plan and unit plan assignments and I would
expect my students to share them with their mentors.

If you are interested or know of someone who might be interested
please contact me either through this chat area or directly at the
address below.

Thanks

Dr. Cyril Kesten
Associate Professor of Education
Faculty of Education
University of Regina
Regina,  Saskatchewan
Canada    S4S 0A2

Internet:  kesten@Meena.cc.uregina.ca
Bitnet:  Kesten@Meena.bitnet
From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Radiation
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 17:40:04 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <26 Aug 92  08:41:00> to <Steve Larson> about <Where?>,
Don Kauffman wrote:

 DK> Great stuff you two. It is obvious that its time to get back to work
 DK> and provide an outlet for your creativity. You don't sound nearly
 DK> stressed enough to be teachers, or could it be that you both live to
 DK> close to Uranium City and some stray radiation is causing the glow!

Don, you're closer to the mark than you know!
I worked underground as a miner in Elliot Lake, Ontario for a few years in
my misspent youth.  I used to be quite a hit at parties -- they'd turn off
the lights and watch me glow!

However, I don't think that my behaviour can be explained by the radiation.
My mother always said that I was living proof of how silly my father's side
of the family was!  :-)

Regards,
Steve

... Still crazy...after all these years!

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From: Carol.Rundberg@f110.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Rundberg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Info about New Students
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 23:55:58 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/110 - Physics Forum, Amherst MA

Hi Julie Rosenoff,  Your teaching situation sounds CHALLENGING.  It made me thing of a program on education, N on NBC tv about schools that work this past weekend.  A school in NY had addressed the period length problem and the interviewees seemed pleased with it.  
    I work at an elementary school in Amherst.  I am the counselor at the Mark's Meadow Laboratory School.  Our kids are often moving in and out but not at the frequency you are talking about.  
    My bbs time is just about out.  I'll try to continue this message another time.     Carol Rundberg


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From: rhopes@tjhsst.vak12ed.edu (Robin Hopes)
Subject: Help R Kids - States & Provinces Race
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Fairfax)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:17:23 GMT

          My 6th grade class in Falls Church, Virginia would like to
          see how many US states and Canadian provinces/territories
          will respond to a brief survey which will be created when
          school begins on September 8.  We think the "E-mail"
          responses will take less time than the "snail mail" surveys
          completed last year by younger students in our school
          system.
                Let me know if you are interested and one of
	  my students will send you a survey to complete when
	  school begins. We hope to create a database of the
	  information obtained from the surveys.  Wish us luck
	  and Godspeed.
                                        Thanks :-;
          P.S.  Welcome back to school

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Robin Hopes                   rhopes@tjhsst.vak12ed.edu
      ;-> MIDDLE SCHOOLS R USER FRIENDLY! ;->
George Mason Middle School    Falls Church City Schools
+7124 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, VA 22043 (703)2417654

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From: Bob.Pannell@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Pannell)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Australian Teaching Poss
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 08:53:48 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Thanks a lot for the response John. Unfortunately the situation for teaching positions there appears to be distinctly similar to our own. I'll continue to work on things in a couple of different areas. In all probability a teacher exchange program would be my best bet, unfortunately the province of Saskatchewan is one of the few provinces in Canada that does not at present have an exchange program with Australia.

 It was a tour in Europe with a lot of aussies that has fired this plan, the people and the country seem to be worth spending more than a month of holidays discovering! Once again thanks for the prompt response. 
 



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From: sornsin@sendit.NoDak.edu (Kathleen Margaret Sornsin)
Subject: BOTANY
Organization: SEND-IT Conferencing System, North Dakota
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:17:33 GMT


WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANY TEXT WHICH WOULD HAVE KEYS TO IDENTIFICATION OF
TREES.  WE HAVE A FEW, BUT NEED MORE FOR OUR HIGH SCHOOL CLASS.  DOES
ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW OF SOME?  THANKS!  KATHY SORNSIN, LIBRARIAN,
SHANLEY HIGH SCHOOL, FARGO, ND
From: Don.Kauffman@p0.f45.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Don Kauffman)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: msg #513
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 17:40:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/45.0 - SPQR, Edmonton Alta

 > stressful it is trying to fake out your wife, and
 > hiding in basements - does this sound like "normal"
 > behavior to you Don? {Yes, Don - I know you're reading
 > this!:-) }
If you can know that I am reading this, just by looking at your computer, then I can know that you are not bald just by looking at mine.
Normal behavior... I hide out in my basement a lot, actually I think it is to avoid the TV and the drivel that comes from that marvel.
I remember saying to a class of GR.5 students one time that "TV is what you do when you have nothing else to do". Most of them had no idea what that meant. Actually, I wonder what it DID mean.                      :)



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