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From: ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento)
Subject: Re: Turbochannel Adapter for 4000-60?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:37:26




In article <59010006@acf3.NYU.EDU> tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor) writes:


>> But DEC has already discussed and mayvbe even announced a TURBOchannel 
>> expansion option, one card in the main TC links to a three card expansion
>> box.  So why physically expand the small boxes to make room while there 
>> are people who only need 1?


Stephen,

  Ummm, not exactly. The product you are referring to is not a TURBOchannel
Expander. But rather, a TURBOchannel Extender. The difference is that you can
still only put ONE logical TURBOchannel option in a TURBOchannel Extender. It
just gives you the additional real estate and power. This was particularly set
up for DECstation customers who wanted to use the PXG TURBO in conjunction with
an FDDI option.

  Since we could not get OS support for a TURBOchannel Expander (which would
take the slaved address space for a system TURBOchannel slot and divide it up
into slaved addresses for additional logical TURBOchannel options in the 
external box) the Extender was the next best thing. 

  The external box does allow you to add additional storage devices though. It
will support two half height hard disks and one half height removable media.
Not surprising since it is built off of the DS5000/1xx system box.

  I hope that this clears up the confusion.

Related Question:

  How many people would like to have a VAX (VAXstation or VAXsystem) with more
TURBOchannel slots (and how many slots make a "reasonable" configuration)?


				Thanx,
				  AJ


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From: sensei@dojo.mi.org (the Maniak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Configuring a DECstation 5000/240 for use as a "server"
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 11:11:50 GMT
Organization: "Gotta have it" Foundation, a division of Worship Cindy Crawford, Inc.


I have a DECstation 5000/240 targetted as an applications and file server
for roughly 30-40 DECstation 5000/25 Maxines.  No one client is going to
be any major load.  No user files or critical OS files are going to be
on the server, just some applications that are best served (FrameMaker),
and a few work-related files.  I intend to run the server as a mail and
Hesiod "hub", and it may be called upon to serve a half-dozen MS-DOS
clients via NFS as well as what's listed above.  The server has 32 MB
of RAM, plenty of disk, and will be headless, to the best of my knowledge.

My question is:  What sort of configuration changes will I need to
be doing to optimize the performance and effectiveness of the 240
as a server?  What sort of software should I be running?  Help!


                                             ...Sensei

==
 Internet:  sensei@dojo.mi.org
 UUCP:  ...!wsu-cs!dojo!sensei
From: bill@prijat.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: APL
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:34:40 GMT
Reply-To: bill@platypus.uofs.edu
Followup-To: bill@platypus.uofs.edu
Organization: University of Scranton, Scranton, PA

Here's a question bound to raise a few eyebrows.

My ULTRIX Documentation says that I have an Unsupported APL Development
Package.  Running "setld -i" shows:

ULXAPL030       installed       APL Development Package

How do I run this package??  If it is in fact Unsupported and User
Contributed, is it available anywhere (Gatekeeper??) in source??

Don't even ask why I'm interested in APL.  :-)

bill

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
From: lang@wharfin.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Turbochannel Adapter for 4000-60?
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:14:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: wharfin.1992Aug14.151407.1
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology

Hello,

Has anyone in net.land actually installed a DWCTX Turbochannel adapter in a
VAXStation 4000-60? I have had one on order for about 4 months, and was told
recently (in the last day or so) that the DWCTX is on engineering hold, thus I
have not recieved on yet. Could someone please enlighted me and or the rest of
the net as to the status of the DWCTX? I have a PMAZ SCSI controller and a
stack of CD-ROM drives that I would really like to get on-line.

Bob Lang
MIT Computer Services
(617)253-7438
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento)
Subject: i - ACCESS.bus Specifications are now on line...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.arch
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:00:18


Folks,

  I had promised to get a copy of the ACCESS.bus specifications posted as soon
as they were available. Well, the ACCESS.bus Industry Group met last week and
we finally have the approved specifications available on line. You can get a
copy by using anonymous ftp on:

gatekeeper   16.1.0.2	gatekeeper:pub/DEC/TriAdd/A.bus_spec_sec_0_v2_0.ps
						  A.bus_spec_sec_0_v2_0.ps.Z
						  A.bus_spec_sec_1_v2_0.ps
						  A.bus_spec_sec_1_v2_0.ps.Z
						  A.bus_spec_sec_2_v2_0.ps
						  A.bus_spec_sec_2_v2_0.ps.Z
						  A.bus_spec_sec_3_v2_0.ps
						  A.bus_spec_sec_3_v2_0.ps.Z
						  A.bus_spec_sec_4_v2_0.ps
						  A.bus_spec_sec_4_v2_0.ps.Z
						  A.bus_spec_sec_5_v2_0.ps
						  A.bus_spec_sec_5_v2_0.ps.Z


  For those of you who may not be familiar with ACCESS.bus, it's a serial bus
for relatively low speed devices. Some of it's relevant features are:

		* Support for up to 14 devices at a time.

		* 8 meters of electrical cable length.

		* Based on the Phillips/Signetics I2C (I Squared C) bus. The
		  I2C microprosseor is only about $2.00 in the US.

		* Easily applicable to keyboards, mice (pointers), bar code
		  readers, hand held scanners, and so on.


I hope that this gets you all started. More information can be obtained by
seding mail to 	triadd@decwrl.dec.com  with your requests.

				Thanx,
				  AJ


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      * 529 Bryant Ave. PAG-2		 rather, which of my personalities *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: lem@nosc.mil (Lemuel L. Davis)
Subject: Alpha benchmarks
Keywords: alpha, benchmarks
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:08:44 GMT

Has anyone run or had DEC run any becnhmarks on Alpha systems?  I
have just seen some image processing type benchmarks (not dependent
on graphics subsystem) that were run on an Alpha system under both
OSF and VMS, and the results were not very good.  The Alpha system
came in at about the same level as an SGI R3000 Indigo, and
considerably worse than SGI R4000 systems and top HP systems.
From: mrr@chene.cxo.dec.com (Mark Richard Rance)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Internet support via DSIN
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:28:38 GMT
Reply-To: mrr@chene.cxo.dec.com (Mark Richard Rance)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


|> Does anyone remember the big announcement a couple of months ago
|> about DEC making DSIN available via the internet? Well, I filled
|> out an application within a week of that announcement and have
|> yet to hear anything from DEC about it. Has anyone gotten internet
|> access to DSIN?

|> Does anyone remember the big announcement a couple of months ago
|> about DEC making DSIN available via the internet? Well, I filled
|> out an application within a week of that announcement and have
|> yet to hear anything from DEC about it. Has anyone gotten internet
|> access to DSIN?
|> 
|> -- 
|> Johannes Grosen
|> ISC Group System Administrator
|> 401E Minard Hall
|> North Dakota State University
|> (701) 237-8409
|> 

Johannes,

Are you sure that this was DSIN and not DSNlink that was discussed
in regard to Internet access?

Mark Rance
DSNlink Developer
From: aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: WANTED old PDP-11?
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:01:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


If anyone knows anyone who has an old PDP-11 that they might 
want to sell please either call me at (216)752-4925 or
email. BTW are all the PDPs 3 phase power supplied?
CW
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From: Paul.Leonard@MDC@p110.f48.n105.z1.therose.pdx.com (Paul Leonard@MDC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: WANTED old PDP-11?
Date: 17 Aug 92 06:06:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: therose.714117573.F00003


 CW> From: aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner)
 CW> Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec


 CW> If anyone knows anyone who has an old PDP-11 that they might 
 CW> want to sell please either call me at (216)752-4925 or
 CW> email. BTW are all the PDPs 3 phase power supplied?

I've got an 11/70 that's plugged into a 3 phase.

ptl

paul.leonard@p110.f48.n105.z1.fidonet.org
From: bleau@umdsp.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: 2nd SCSI bus on VS4000/90?
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:58:52 GMT
Reply-To: bleau@umdsp.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland Physics Dept., College Park, MD

I'm planning a purchase of a VAXstation 4000 model 90, and I'm considering
putting a 2nd SCSI adapter on its TurboChannel.  I'd like some feedback on the
wisdom and justifiabiliy of this approach.

My reasoning so far has been that I can foresee, within the next year, placing
external 4 SCSI devices externl to the system, which will already have the
internal RZ25 disk and a CD-ROM, making 7 SCSI units in use (including the
cpu), out of 8.  The additional devices would be a high-speed 1.7GB disk, a
rewritable optical drive whose media is likely be mounted /SYSTEM and accessed
by all, a 6250bpi tape drive, and an 8mm tape drive (5GB capacity) used to
import daat (weekly) and to back up the entire cluster's disks (5GB worth) on a
daily basis.

Question #1: Is a 2nd SCSI adapter the only (best? least expensive?) way of
making an additional set of units available?

Another, somewhat realted question, is about the bus load and how it may be
balanced.  Assume a moderate to heavy i/o use on this workstation: data
frequently being transferred between disk, optical, and tape, as well the
probability that this will be the boot node in a VMScluster.

Question #2: Could the SCSI bus turn into a bottleneck for even a workstation
as powerful as the VS4000 model 90 and impair its effective use?  If so, how
likely is that, and how much of an impairment do you foresee?  

Separating the devices amoung two SCSIs would only partially help, by the way,
since (and you can correct me on this, as I'm guessing) one of the SCSI's would
be internal devices only and the other would be external devices.  This would
split off the system disk traffic (CD-ROM is negligable for now) from the rest
of the i/o, but would leave big hitters on the external SCSI (big disk, two
tapes, optical).

Question #3: How much of an i/o load reduction in this type of configuration
would adding another SCSI adapter be?  Would the remaining devices on the
external SCSI still present enough of an i/o load that they would interfere
with one another and with user programs?

You can email to me directly at bleau@umdsp.umd.edu and I will summarize and
report in about a week.  Thanks.

Larry Bleau
University of Maryland
bleau@umdsp.umd.edu
301-405-6223
From: u9dmlb@ohm.york.ac.uk (Duncan McL Barclay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: VT400s
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:43:20 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

This is possibly an FAQ and also an RTFM but I havent any FMs so:

The VT420 which I am writting this on has an option in the setup to
adjust the screens position and rotation. Can this be done remotely?
ie thru escape sequences etc. Please belive me when I say I dont want to
annoy other people but just use it for my own ammusment when Im drunk
or something...

Raggy

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u9dmlb@ohm.york.ac.uk | the permanantly stoned. S.King.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: jlw@world.std.com (James L Walker)
Subject: Need TurboChannel card to talk token-ring.
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:48:11 GMT

The subject line says it all.  I can't justify making my customer buy an
$8,000 bridge to make his network talk to one DECStation 5000/125.  Is
there a third party TurboChannel card that will save me the expense?

-- Les Walker
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: LA75 for sale $125.00 
From: cwthomas@nrlvx1.nrl.navy.mil
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:07:48 -0400
Organization: NRL SPACE SYSTEMS DIVISION

	
	Hi;
	
	As the subject says I have an LAprinter for sale for 125.00 +
	shipping. Email me if interested

	Thanks;
	C.W. Thomas

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From: rocker@csa.bu.edu (The Long Haired One)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro,misc.forsale.computers,vmsnet.pdp-11,bu.forsale,mit.bboard,ne.forsale
Subject: Re: Assorted DEC Books forsale (correction)
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:49:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Distribution: comp,misc,vmsnet,bu,mit,ne
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: rocker@csa.bu.edu's message of 16 Aug 92 21:06:31 GMT


>>>>> On 16 Aug 92 21:06:31 GMT,
	 rocker@csa.bu.edu (The Long Haired One) said:

|> Vax 11/780 architecture handbook vol. 1 1977-78
|> Vax 11/780 software handbook vol. 3 1977-78
|> Vax hardware handbook 1982-83
|> Vax software handbook 1980-81
|> Vax hardware handbook 1982-83
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
          This one should have read, Vax Hardware handbook 1986 vol 1

|> VMS Handbook 1990 ($2)
|> MicroVAX handbook 1984
|> Professional Handbook

|> email rocker@cs.bu.edu
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From: bhandarkar@wrksys.enet.dec.com (Dileep Bhandarkar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro
Subject: Re: Benchmarks R3000 vs. R4000 available ?
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:25:03 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Aug21.071900.19544@fhg1.fhg.de>, marten@ilt.fhg.de (Lutz Marten) writes...
> 
>Hello,
>has anyone benchmarks, eg.g SPEC's, for the MIPS R3000 and R4000 chips?
>ThanX !

This depends on which system is being used.

				SPEC	SPEC
				int92	fp92

MIPS Magnum	R4000PC	50MHz	36.8	40.0	no secondary cache
SGI Crimson	R4000SC	50MHz	61.7	63.4	1MB secondary cache
DS5000/240	R3000	40MHz	27.3	29.9

Dileep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: ms@ncsu.edu (Mark Stubbs)
Subject: Booting a VAX 11/730
Originator: ms@ccvr1.cc.ncsu.edu
Organization: Computing Center, North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:47:08 GMT


Hello,

We have recently acquired a VAX 11/730 with RL02 and RA80 disk drives,
and a TU58 tape drive.  What we need to know is this:  

    - How can you install ULTRIX on this beast,  given the only
      seemingly usefull installation media is the ethernet.

    - Are there any bootstraps on TU58 tape for doing a kind of network
      boot? (IE Attempt to configure it as a diskless machine at first?)

Any help or experience with these machine will be greatly appreciated.


Mark Stubbs
ms@unity.ncsu.edu
From: young@eg.ecn.purdue.edu (Mike Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: ACP paper: got it, thanks
Keywords: RSX ACP
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:52:15 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


	Many thanks to all respondents regarding my request for information
on Ancillary Control Processors, especially Don Arrowsmith for the SIG
tape contents, and Earl Lakia for the very illuminating examples. I think I
now have all the available literature on the subject, with the possible
exception of internal DEC memoranda :-).


--
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    |  Purdue University EE Dept.       |       ...!pur-ee!young        |
    |  W. Lafayette, IN  47907          |                               |
    _____________________________________________________________________
From: wipke@moldes.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: bigger font for emacs?
Date: 23 Aug 92 00:22:57 GMT
Organization: UCSC Molecular Engineering Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: moldes.ucsc.edu

Can anybody explain in the context of today's Decwindows+Motif environment
how to tell emacs 18.51 or 18.55 to use a bigger font?  I have this need
on vms and Ultrix, just too old to read the standard font it pops up with.
Thanks.

Todd Wipke
wipke@secs.ucsc.edu
From: xyin@zsazsa.usc.edu (Xiaowei Yin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: phone number need for used DEC parts supplier
Date: 20 Aug 1992 10:10:02 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zsazsa.usc.edu


Could any body in the net help me to find the phone numbers for used DEC parts
suppliers.  I need to order a lot of used parts for DEC vax machine.

  For example:
	VAX8350 CPU board, TA81, 4MB memory board, Ethernet comm, board,
	...

Any help is every appreciated.
From: heiney@pa.dec.com (Bob Heiney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Running RZ55's on non-DEC machines?
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:01:11 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

If you have an ULTRIX system, you can connect the RZ55 and
run "rzdisk -c ask /dev/rrz3c" (assuming the RZ55 was SCSI id 3).
Go to the last page of parameters, change the spin up on power on
field.  See rzdisk(8) for more info.

I know there are PC programs that can do the same thing, but I don't
know how to get them (I'm not a PC guru).

-- 
Bob Heiney
Technical Consultant
Digital Equipment Corporation, US Desktop Sales, Palo Alto, CA
All opinions expressed are mine, and not necessarily those of my employer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.terminals
From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Subject: does MOP booting work across TCP/IP subnets?
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing Center, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:53:42 GMT

We have a handful of DECserver 300 terminal servers that want to boot via
MOP.  We have a Unix host which runs mop_mom, the MOP server.  However, the
DECservers and the Unix host are on a different IP subnets.  Is there a
way to get the DECservers to boot through the subnets?

Alternatively, is there a way to make the DECserver load via bootp or tftp?

Help!  Sniff!

--
Eiji Hirai
hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu
From: bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: MicroVAX I or II wanted!
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:40:19 GMT
Organization: Applied Information Systems, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <1992Aug17.102358.1@levy.fnal.gov>, levy@levy.fnal.gov writes:
> In article <1992Aug15.184529.22341@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner) writes:
>> 
>> If you have a MicroVAX I or II for sale please respond but only
>> if you want under $800... Thanks...
>> CW
>> P.S. Please email responses...
>> CW
>> -- 
>> Carlin Wiegner a.k.a. C-Man based here in Cleveland, Ohio, USA!
> 
> A complete MVII system for <$800?  Good luck.

Actually for a fairly minimal system that sounds about right.  Around
6 months ago I happened to notice that a MicroVAX 2000 with an RD53 disk
drive and 4MB of memory was being sold by one of the DEC 3rd party people
for something like $1200.  A minimally-configured MicroVAX II would sell
for close to the same amount.  You'd want to put a tape or something on
it for backup, though.  The used equipment vendor couldn't have been
buying the 2000 for more than $600-800, if that.  And that vintage of
equipment hasn't been getting any more valuable with the new VAXes that
have been announced this spring and summer.

We won't even discuss the value of a MicroVAX I ... $800 would be a
pretty steep price for one unless it included some really interesting
peripherals ...

Bruce C. Wright
From: bill@prijat.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: WANTED old PDP-11?
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:26:04 GMT
Reply-To: bill@platypus.uofs.edu
Organization: University of Scranton, Scranton, PA

In article <1992Aug13.160144.20927@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner) writes:
|> 
|> email. BTW are all the PDPs 3 phase power supplied?

Both of mine are just plugged into regular wall outlets.

bill

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: does MOP booting work across TCP/IP subnets?
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:35:37 GMT

In article <A93NBM5G@cc.swarthmore.edu>, hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai) writes:
> We have a handful of DECserver 300 terminal servers that want to boot via
> MOP.  We have a Unix host which runs mop_mom, the MOP server.  However, the
> DECservers and the Unix host are on a different IP subnets.  Is there a
> way to get the DECservers to boot through the subnets?

  If they are physically on the same ethernet, this should not be a
problem since MOP pays no attention to IP subnets. If they are
going through a bridge/router you may be in trouble. If it is 
strictly an IP router, you are in deep trouble. If there is a 
bridge component to the brouter, you may be able to coax it to
passing the MOP multicasts to entice your host to service it. The
multicast address is ab-00-00-01-00-00-00. Also you will need to
be certain the ethertype 60-01 will be passed through the bridge(s).

> Alternatively, is there a way to make the DECserver load via bootp or tftp?

  Sorry, can't help you there. Most third party DS300 like things have
this ability though.

-- 

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		-- Hobbes to Calvin
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From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: VMS-Sun connectivity
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1142@racerx.bridge.COM>, ken@Bridge.COM (Ken Hardy) writes...
#I'm being told time and again in mail messages that Multinet *does*
#have SMTP.  We've just done some further investigating ourselves, and
#discover that we have version 1.3 that does not do SMTP at all.  We're
#looking into upgrading.

	I'm being told time and time again to be nice to novices.

	This is your TCP/IP for VMS (MultiNet):
		V3.1 shipping
		SMTP, NFS client, R services, etc, etc, tn3270...
	
	This is your TCP/IP for VMS on drugs (UCX):
		V1.3A or 1.3 with FTP server security bugs
		Nothing really there, no nameservice... no support...

	Get the message?

#Thanks for pointers to NNTP clients for VMS.  Any besides ANU News and
#MX, and XRN?  I'll look into those.

	So you asked for an NNTP client and someone gave you THREE,
	and before looking into those you want more???  And you don't
	yet know what software you're running to have TCP/IP so you
	won't be able to build any one of those three anyway... great!

	Ehud

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