From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Jordan - Democracy, etc.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:38:50 GMT

   That I feel many people think this way, I post part of the
debate about criticising one's country. Since the emailer was
polite, the author is not releasing his/her/its name.

" 
"  Hi JORDANIAN <BULBUL>....
" First of all, I personally think that there is no any humanbeing 
" in the world post to the public any thing bad about his home country, 
" unless he is either paid from outside or his patrioty is NULL, and
" both of them are leading to the same results.. Apparenly you are
" a man from the second type, because I saw your posting all the time
" is oriented toward digging in the NON-RIGHT things about Jordan <ISHAA'>

   Clapping hands does not do any good. If the facts are displayed it
is more likely that people will try to do something about them. If your
patrioticity tells you to lower your head, ignore facts and act
carelessly then what a patriot you are!

"  I know you are Jordanian and you are from HOWWARAH and your cosine
" is the singer GOZLAN.. and you were graduated from J.U.S.T, so I ask
" you to stop these bad happit immediatly << I know that, I don't have
" the right to tie your mouth>> .. but rather than fighting your country
" and if lowiality is so wonderful ... go to the west side to fight our
" enemy..

   Why not fight our enemies in the East side first? If Prophet's
tradition means anything to you, remember that he at first established
a society in Medina then spread it outside.

"   Please remember that sooner or later you will go to Jordan--the 
" country where you were raised, the country in which you study..
" and i remember you were a good student in both high school and
" your undergraduate study.... so rather than fighting your country
" you can say many good thing like <as an examples only>:
"    - Democracy in Jordan, it is good as many westren country.

   Democracy in Jordan is still not mature and we still do not know
whether it is good and bad, and by the way, what happened to our
deputies Shbailat and Qarrash? And why were they treated so bad even
against the prosecution laws? And always remember that the Western
system is not perfect and is not our target thus.

"    - Education, we are the 3rd litrecy percentage in the world (82%).

   But the illeterates in most other countries are educated more than
our literates. The Prophet was illeterate but of very high education
and intelligence along with many of his Companions. Education is not
the ability to read, it is much more than that.

"    - Social System.

   That was true 10 to 20 years ago. If you went to Jordan recently
especially after the Gulf crisis you would prefer the American social
system to the Jordanian one. Crimes, thefts, murders, etc. are all
over the place. Poverty is very tough.

"    - Health facilities

   I stated a couple of instances how people (non-Obaidat/Khraisat/etc.)
are treated in those health facilities. You know, not everyone can go
to the Royal Medical Centre.

"  and so on and so forth... 

   And by the way, we evaluate things on a 100% scale not on a zero scale.
To evaluate yourself you compare yourself to 100, not to 0. So we are
supposed to have an excellent system, if we do not then we are wrong even
if we do not have the worst system in the world. No one is doing us a favour
when they treated us well, it is our right!

"  BULBUL... wake up your mind.. and don't immagine that I am threatening
" you..<I know that, I don't have the right to say that>.. but as a
" Jordanian I ask you to respect your country.. and remember that NO 
" body respect you if you don't respect your country...

   Can you show me how the representitaves of our country respect it, like
ministers, ambassadors, university deans, etc.?

"  If you have any comment feel free to send me an E-mail personally
" because I will never read any posted letter from you unless that you
" will change totally.. 
"    note: I feel sorry for any fellow like yours, because you are really
"  distort the image of the undestorted country image... 

   Please, don't be! Do yourself a favour and feel sorry about yourself
because you do not dare open your eyes and look around. I am not distorting
any image, I am telling facts. If facts are distortions, then I am sorry
to intrude in your sleep, sweet dreams, baby!

"    BULBUL... wake up your HUGE mind for your LITTLE BODY..
" take care... 
" 
    Same to you.
    
**  Facts do not distort; they give a higher resolution picture of the
    situation, but if you do not have a high-res (HDTV) monitor you
    may not be able to appreciate its beauty!
                                                 --the author
**  "ai wallA ai? walla ai wallA ai?
    yi^gibni ai wi a.hibbi ai?"
                                  -- The Algerian Rose