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From: smr@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Steven M. Ruegsegger)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,freenet.sci.comp.ibmpc.mswindows,comp.windows.misc
Subject: ATM or TT fonts for GD&T (geometric dimensioning & tolerancing)
Date: 8 Oct 1992 14:18:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Distribution: world
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Keywords: ATM TT fonts GD&T MS windows

Hello netters.  I have seen GD&T (Geometric Dimensioning and Tolerancing) fonts
on the Mac, but not for PC, and now I cannot even find it for the Mac.  
This font had all the symbols for proper GD&T dimensioning: datums, straightness,
flatness, position, etc.

GD&T is the same as ANSI 14.5M 1982 standard.

Has anyone seen this font?

Thank you

Steve Ruegsegger
smr2@po.cwru.edu
stever@storm.eeap.cwru.edu
From: ari@netcom.com (Ari Davidow)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Adobe Type Library Question
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:30:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

>I just got a copy of Adobe Type Library ....

Tom, there is no such thing as an application called "Adobe Type Library."
Your message seems to indicate that you have purchased a copy of the
Postscript font Plantin, which is part of the Adobe Type Library.

Depending on your Windows version, and whether or not you are using Adobe
Type =Manager= (an application program used by Windows to display Postscript
Type 1 fonts accurately on screen), the installation varies.

You should probably just call Adobe Support and let them walk through.

ari
ari@netcom.com
From: games@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Need a PD font translater, or Helvetica.ttf...   (wordperfect problem.)
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:41:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: max.1992Oct16.124145.1

I need a true type font named "Helvetica".

The problem is that, in windows, when you install a printer driver, the 
fonts are available, but there are no matching screen fonts, Wordperfect
for windows does not use the font substitution table that windows provides,
and if it can not match by name, then it will ask windows for a screen font
based upon the metrics of the printer font.  For some reason, Helvetica
seems to match the oddest fonts.  I get rid of them, and it matches
something else.  All I need it to take a copy of Arial that comes with windows
and change the name to Helvetica, so I have the proper metrics for the screen
font, however the length of the font name is encoded in the font file
somewhere, and I cant seem to change the  name with a binary editor to
anything longer than 5 characters (Helve doesnt cut it.)  I don't have the
money for a font translation editing program.  

Anyone know where I might be able to get a Helvetica.ttf file?
(Or a PD program that will let me build one.)

BTW, Wordperfect is aware of the problem, and has promised to fix it in
the next interim release of the product.

			John Stevens-Schlick
			5222 44th Ave. S.W.
			Seattle, WA, 98136

			206 935-4384 (Home)
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			games@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines)
Subject: Re: What are the diff between type 1,2,3?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:28:24 GMT

type 1 is the standard adobe outline system now in use. this, when used in 
conjunction with adobe type manager, renders fonts from 8 pts to infinity so 
they look like they print on a laser printer. a type 1 font uses both a printer
font and a screen font. its rival is apple's true type technology, which is 
basically the same, except that it doesn't need: a seperate printer font, a 
screen font (per se) or ATM.

they both rely on outlines for optimum printing.

type 2 never really hit the market. it was a supposed to be a step towards what
is now called type 1 and it was getting away from type 3.

type 3 is the system that letrastudio, old letrafonts (as compared to the new 
fonts --display faces--that they have recently released) and typestyler use. it
supports rendering fonts with pict and postscript patterns such as radial 
fills, graduated fills, and color fills, etc.. more of a display face/purpose 
than anything.

sines
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: dhosek@cbrown.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Mixing ordinary and "old style" figures. Does it look well?
Organization: Quixote Digital Typography
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:49:29 PDT

In article <1992Oct15.153308.1769@aau.dk>, kemius@aau.dk (Ulrik Serges) writes:
> Hello,
 
> well, I now have these old style figures (numbers aligned to minuscles),
> and I would like to use them in my thesis. But it contains some
> mathematical formulas, and I am not quite sure, whether I should use
> ordinary (versal size) or old style figures (OSF). I see three possi-
> bilities:
 
> 1. I only use ordinary figures. This works ok, but looks a bit
>    boring, I think.

But reasonable.
 
> 2. I only use OSF. This would be nice in running text, but the formulas
>    would look a bit akward and unprofessional.

To say the least.
 
> 3. Mixing ordinary and OSF. For use in formulas, I use ordinary figures, in
>    running text, I use OSF. Does it work? What about formulas in the
>    running text?
>    And what do I do with my equation numbers? They show up both in
>    formulas and in the running text. Should I always use OSF, thus mixing
>    ordinary and OSF in one line (formulas in ordinary, eq. numbers in OSF),
>    or use both ordinary (for use with formulas) and OSF (for references
>    in text), using differents fonts for the same number?

The mix is also reasonable. The determination is whether you're
talking about a mathematical value or not. So if you right "for
all values less than 1" that 1 will be a lining figure. On the
other hand, if you right, "This was discussed in section 1" that
1 will be an old style figure. Equation numbers are not
mathematical values and are OSF. Formulas in  running text are
mathematical values and are lining figures. Be prepared to work
to get this consistent. Personally, in a document which is
heavily mathematical, I'd be inclined to not use OSF since the
transition might be distracting... it's hard to say without
having a handle on the material first.
 
> Please help me. If I don't get some helpful advice, I presumably use
> possibility 1.

-dh
From: hjb@otter.hpl.hp.com (Harry Barman)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Is there a TT font editor
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:18:09 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.

There is a program called Fontographer for Windows that can be used to
produce and alter Type1 and TrueType fonts.  This is commercial software,
I can't remember the price (besides who knows what ridiculous mark-up we
must pay for being in Europe!)

Cheers,

Harry
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: csplr@trentu.ca (Peter L. Rukavina)
Subject: Problems with 'TYPE/FONT' menu in PageMaker 4.0 w/many fonts
Organization: Trent University, Ontario
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:32:53 GMT

I have just installed a whole pile of ATM fonts under Windows 3.1; when
using PageMaker 4.0 I call up the "FONT" option under the "TYPE" menu I
get a long list of fonts the bottom of which just blows off the end of
the screen.  How do I move/scroll to these fonts (in my case everything
after Helvetica)?
From: simon@lia.di.epfl.ch (Simon Leinen)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Adobe's Utopia Family
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:37:13 GMT
	<1992Oct13.233858.7365@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: DI-LIA -- Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
In-reply-to: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of 13 Oct 92 23:38:58 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: ad7ee3a811989ca8d364478ec4dd0ce6

In article <1992Oct13.233858.7365@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines) writes:

   i am interested in ftp'ing this family. please let me know where it
   is, any of you.....

If you have the X11R5 distribution from MIT, then you have it already.
Otherwise, you can FTP it from

	export.lcs.mit.edu:/pub/R5untarred/contrib/fonts/Utopia/

I append the README from this directory.  The distribution consists of
afm and pfa (ASCII Type-1) files for each of the four faces.
-- 
Simon.

--------------------------------- README ---------------------------------
In the interests of furthering standards for the X Window System, Adobe
Systems Incorporated has contributed to the X Consortium and its members
the Adobe typeface software listed below. This Adobe Type 1 font software
donation will now allow users to experience and freely use traditional
high-quality Adobe type in the X Window environment.

Permission to use, reproduce, display and distribute the listed typefaces
is hereby granted, provided that the Adobe Copyright notice appears in all
whole and partial copies of the software and that the following trademark
symbol and attribution appear in all unmodified copies of the software:

        Copyright (c) 1989 Adobe Systems Incorporated
        Utopia (R)
        Utopia is a registered trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated

The Adobe typefaces (Type 1 font program, bitmaps and Adobe Font Metric
files) donated are:

        Utopia Regular
        Utopia Italic
        Utopia Bold
        Utopia Bold Italic


Adobe Systems Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: g9129499@cc.uow.edu.au (Jeremy Lawrence)
Subject: Where can I find an ABF font?
Reply-To: jeremy@snrc.uow.edu.au
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 07:22:50 GMT


I'm after an ABF font (Adobe binary screen font file). Any ABF font. The
public domain fonts in the archives don't seem to include them, and I don't 
have access to any Adobe font disk sets. Does anyone know of an archive with 
any? Maybe someone can mail one?

Why? Well, I want to test a utility that converts ABF fonts to 
FrameMaker screen fonts, so I can test some ABF fonts I'm (hopefully)
converting from BDF fonts so I can convert them to FrameMaker fonts :) .

Thanks,
    Jeremy

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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: cearley_k@wizard.colorado.edu
Subject: Resident Graphics?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:02:25 MST

Does anyone have any advice on the following:

I need to use a bitmap image like a logo or signature, and, if possible,
download it as a font to an HP. The reason for this, is that I want it
to be resident for a series of merge list letters, rather than forcing each
letter to store and transfer the graphics for each page. I talked briefly
with Zsoft about their Type Foundry product, they can take a scanned image
and convert it a font. The problem seems to be, they map a maximum of 
about 1.5" at 300 dpi to a character. I'm wondering if I can map an 
image contiguously across a block of characters without worrying about
intercharacter spacing, etc. 

Is there a better way to go about this? Is there some way with HP's PCL or
Postscript to download a 'resident graphic'? Pointers, references, hints
greatly appreciated!  

		Thanks!
		Kent Cearley
		University of Colorado, Boulder
From: lou@netlink.cts.com (Louis Puccio)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: fonts
Date: 10 Oct 92 12:29:33 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

HI!!!
I have been comparing various software packages which work with common 
word processors - dos versions. The most common of these are Facelift, 
Fonts on the Fly, Truetype for Dos, Morefonts,Publisher's Powerpak and 
Fastfonts.
Can anyone tell me which package they like better and also advantages ad 
disadvantages of all these packages, or any one in particular.?
I will be using a laser printer and a 286 machine. standard memory.
Please reply by email. 
thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!
will send a copy of all replies to anyone interested.

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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Fontographer vs. Font Studio
Organization: No Affiliation
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:41:12 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

Would people care to comment on the relative merits of these programs for 
the Mac, for designing complete fonts from scratch, not just modifying 
existing fonts.

James Petts

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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf Paul)
Subject: Re: BOLD/Italic/...
Reply-To: cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf N. Paul)
Organization: Alcatel Austria - Elin Research Center, Vienna
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:51:57 GMT

Dave.Beaujean@davespc.mi.org writes:
)I have puchased Fontographer for Windows and LOVE IT!!!
)One problem, I don't understand why I can't put
)the regular, bold, italic, and bold italic all in the
)same font. The fonts that come with windows all include
)ALL of the types in each face. Is it possible to do this
)instead of creating 4 different fonts? BTW, I am tallking
)about Adobe Type I fonts, that I use with windows. Any
)help would really be appreciated. Thank!!!

Windows Bitmap and Stroke fonts are packed together in
resource files which usually contain all four styles.

However, TrueType and Postscript fonts are not packed together
in this fashion, but consist of a single file for each style.
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From: wilkins@dime (Tim Wilkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: zip files
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:42:42 GMT
Distribution: comp.fonts
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Henry Rogers (rogers@epas.utoronto.ca) wrote:
> DOS fonts are usually stored in .zip files. I want to get these to
> convert to Macintosh files. Does anyone know of a program running on a
> Mac that will unzip these files.

Stuffit Deluxe will unzip files.
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: crawford@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (James E Crawford)
Subject: Re: True Type Palatino?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:04:41 GMT

The "real" TrueType fonts for Palatino, Palatino Italic, Palatino Bold,
and Palatino Bold Italic are available along with the documentation for
the QuickTime XCMD's distributed via (I think) AppleLink. This package
was given to me with the assurance that it was legal to distribute, but
I remain skeptical. If anyone who reads this is affiliated with Apple,
can these fonts be distributed? If so, I'll be glad to send them to anyone
who wants them. I also have the TrueType font for Zapf Dingbats, from
the same source.

Jim Crawford
Johns Hopkins University
From: mikel@dosbears.UUCP (Mike Lipsie)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Hebrew Fonts
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:21:10 GMT
Reply-To: dosbears!mikel@pyramid.com
Organization: DOS Bears

In article <1992Oct9.174509.26438@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> csd000@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Shih-Poe Lee) writes:
>I'd like to know info on the fonts for the Hebrew language.
>Is there any such fonts in the public domain?  Or, if there
>are any vendors of this fonts?

Three pointers.

1) My favorite.  Mostly because they are on the net.
	Kabbalah Software
	8 Price Drive
	Edison, NJ 08817

	kabbalah@israel.nysernet.org

	Their latest catalog has almost 20 fonts for Windows
	(many are also available for the Mac and some for Word 
	Perfect.)

2) A more Mac oriented company.
	Davka
	7074 N. Western Ave
	Chicago, IL 60645

	Their latest catalog had 33 fonts for the Mac, Windows,
	and GeoWorks formats.

3) SIMTEL
	The Shalom font set from Jonathan B. -- they work fine 
	with ATM under Windows.

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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
From: ayman@eecs.umich.edu (Ayman I. Kayssi)
Subject: Secure shell by mail
Organization: ACAL, EECS, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:24:39 GMT

I posted a question on comp.unix.questions about how to get a shell by email,
that is a shell that would execute what's in the body of an email message.
All the details have been worked out except for one thing: security.
Currently, security is obtained using the following:
1- the subject of the message is a certain (fixed) special string
2- a header line is added which contains an encrypted string
You can see that the problem is that the message itself contains the security
keys, and therefore anyone can intercept the email and fake a message...
So, are there any suggestions on how to make this more secure?
Email or post...
Thanks,
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
From: tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson)
Subject: Re: Secure shell by mail
Organization: Wayne State Univ.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:28:43 GMT

brett@bambi.wg.waii.com (Marc Brett) writes:

>In article <1992Oct13.172459.28720@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, ayman@eecs.umich.edu (Ayman I. Kayssi) writes:
>|> I posted a question on comp.unix.questions about how to get a shell by email,
>|> that is a shell that would execute what's in the body of an email message.
>|> All the details have been worked out except for one thing: security.
>|> Currently, security is obtained using the following:
>|> 1- the subject of the message is a certain (fixed) special string
>|> 2- a header line is added which contains an encrypted string
>|> You can see that the problem is that the message itself contains the security
>|> keys, and therefore anyone can intercept the email and fake a message...
>|> So, are there any suggestions on how to make this more secure?
>|> Email or post...
>|> Thanks,

>How about running a unique checksum algorithm on the message (including
>the source and destination addresses) and appending the result on the end
>of the message.  Only the sender and receiver know the algorithm, and so
>a third party could not construct a false message without knowing (or
>stealing) the checksum algorithm.  

>For extra points, change the algorithm periodically.

Can I assume that only a select number of users will/should be able to
send messages/shells to you to execute? The algorithm used could be
based on the sender ID. The ID should NOT be used as a key, because that
could help in breaking the code, but just as a simple index to a known
set of algorithms. Even with a given ID, it would still be a good idea
to change the algorithm from time to time.
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc,alt.security,sci.crypt
From: marc@watson.ibm.com (Marc Auslander)
Subject: Unix Security Classification
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:37:30 GMT
Distribution: comp
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Hawthorne, New York

Forgive the novice question -

Can anyone point me to references which:

1.  Define the various security levels A1...C2...

2.  Discuss what is known about getting unix to various levels.

I'm just looking for some overview references at this point.
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
From: cotrozzi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Massimo Cotrozzi)
Subject: Re: Conference in Baltimore MD
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:54:16 GMT


>In article <1992Oct6.142818.23717@cs.cornell.edu> wayner@cs.cornell.edu (Peter Wayner) writes:
>>There is going to be a SEcurity Conference In Baltimore MD later
>>this month. I would be obliged if someone could send me a copy of the
>>electronic flyer announcing the fest. Thanks...

How will this be different from Usenix security symposium?
Anyone can tell me which one is better ?
( And, pls, can somebody tell me where to find proceedings for this and previous
 conferences ? )

	Thanx ,
			Massimo
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From: faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin)
Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
Subject: Re: Unix Security Classification
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:57:48
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: comp
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In-reply-to: marc@watson.ibm.com's message of Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:37:30 GMT

On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:37:30 GMT, marc@watson.ibm.com (Marc Auslander) said:
> 1.  Define the various security levels A1...C2...

The security ratings are defined in the Trusted Computer System Evaluation
Criteria, sometimes called the Orange Book. This is available from the
National Computer Security Center, or the Government Printing Office. 

Basically, C2 gives discretionary access control, identification and
authentication, object reuse and auditing, plus assurance through design
documentation and testing. B1 adds mandatory access controls. Both can be
achieved through retrofitting, if desired. B2 adds some additional labeling,
and requires a modular kernel. Unix cannot reach B2 without being rewritten,
because of the shape of the code in the kernel. B3 adds the presece for formal
model statements and highly modular and layered code. A1 ands formal
specification and proofs. Without rewriting, Unix cannot get above B2. Without
redesign, it can't get B3 and above, because ACLs (access control lists) are
required.

> 2.  Discuss what is known about getting unix to various levels.

There were some papaers in a past National Computer Security Conference
proceedings. YOu might also check out Deborah Russel's book, "Computer
Security Basics".

Daniel
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
From: cower@ssd.intel.com (Rich Cower)
Subject: some disk degaussing questions
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:39:57 GMT


I've got some questions about degaussing disks, maybe someone can help.

1. Are there degausing devices available that will degauss disks that
   are over 120mb? Does the size matter? Who makes them? How much do they cost?

2. Will degaussing these larger disks in any way make them not useable?
   We've heard that the field required to degauss these large disks will
   somehow damage the servo, and make the disk unuseable.

3. Do other sites worry about sending disks out for repair that might
   contain sensitive data?

thanks...rich cower