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From: petey@selway.umt.edu (Peter G Efroymson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: tapes of comunications
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:23:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: selway.1992Nov12.002317.10132
Organization: University of Montana

Hello. I am looking for recordings of fire radio dispaches etc.
I would apprciate any help. Would be willing to exchange--
however, things here(Missoula Co, Mt) are very quiet.

thanks
Peter Efroymson, FF II, FR
Missoula Rural Fire District
University of Mt.
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:49:00 CST
From:         "Wm. Bryant Faust, IV" <WFAUST@NNOMED.BITNET>
Subject:      Re:Volunteer vs Paid

> I also go to school in Monroe County New York,  Rochester.  The EMS up here is
> 90% volunteer, with two paid for-profit services.  These services do mostly
. . .
> In summary, feel that paid municipal services, supported by fees and tax
> dollars is the way to go.
>
> Brian Heath
> PA-NY FF/EMT

Here in Louisiana, the situation is quite different.  Almost all the
EMS service in this area is provided by paid, private services with
fire department rolling as first responders.  There are also some areas
served by paid municipal third services and paid police department
run EMS divisions.  Volunteer fire departments are not uncommon
in the more rural areas, but I don't know of any volunteer EMS services
around here.  This has led to some very large private companies
providing service.  Acadian Ambulance Service covers more than 1/3 of
the state as a 911 provider, and Medic One runs transports and handles
roll-overs in 4 parishes(counties) in and around New Orleans.

Bryant
WFAUST@NOMVS.LSUMC.EDU
From: Gary.Saffer@f290.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Saffer)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Residency Req.
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 09:09:00 -0800

WW}I remember that one Gary, but as memory serves, I believe that was a
STATE
  }supreme court, not a federal one. My point was that, on the surface,
it woul
  }appear to be a constitutional violation. I know that the state of MA
would
  }uphold it, as under MA law, cities and towns can make laws or regs
that are
  }more strong than the state's but not less strong. The basis for the
judgemen
  }is the old state rule about emergency services and the radius of 20
(?) mile
  }that a person should live to their emergency service area. Localities
are
  }authorized under MA law to make further restrictions.

You are correct in the part about towns can make more restrictive, but
not less restrictive laws. I still am not sure about the constitutional
violation though.

WW}My problem is with the "communistic" attitude of the government
saying that
  }you MUST live within a specific community in order to be employed by
same.
  }Next they will tell you that you must live in the "bad area" of town
in orde
  }for you to improve that area by your residency. Maybe even what
number range
  }of what street!

I agree with you whole heartedly, it is silly. It is also a counter
productive at a time when cities and towns are looking for more local
aid to say that we want money from people all over the state, but
anyone
who works for us has to live in our town.

WW}There HAS to be a constitutional violation in there somewhere.

You would think so, but the Supreme Court is getting much more
retrictive in what they look at.

Later

Gary

 * Origin: Kids And Cops _ Lynn, MA _ (617) 599-2499 _ (1:101/290)
From: PLAWS@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Arkansas State
Date: 13 Nov 1992 12:27:26 -0600
Organization: University of Arkansas, Fayetteville
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

On Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:59:03 -0800 you said:
>Just wondering what has happened with Fire and EMS and Rescue services
>in Arkansas and whether it is an indication of the philosophy of
>President elect Clinton.
>
>What has changed since he has been govenor and what do some of the
>folks
>think about what has changed?
>
>
> * Origin: EmergiNet BBS, 614-461-7620 (1:226/510)
>

    I can speak only for NW Arkansas, which is where I live.  Here in
Fayetteville (Washington Co.), we have Central EMS, which covers the whole
County except for Springdale, Tontitown, and Goshen.  The service is a 24h/day
ALS level service that has been in operation since ~1980.  As I understand it,
units are staffed with one EMT-P and one EMT-A (might be 2 Ps though).  They
provide interhospital service as well.  Springdale FD EMS, also a 24h/day ALS
level service, serves the towns I mentioned above.  AirEvac Services has a
helicopter based at Springdale Memorial Hospital that has been kept quite busy
since it's inception in 1991.
     Benton County (home of Wal-Mart and JB Hunt) is served by ALS-level FD
based services in Rogers, Bentonville, and Siloam Springs.  The rest of the
County is served by Benton Co. Volunteer Ambulance Service or NE Benton Co.
VFD's EMS, both of which are BLS.
     Both Counties have E9-1-1, as do Sebastian and Pulaski (and probably
others).  Little Rock (Pulaski Co.) is served by Metro EMS (MEMS), an ALS
service that is (or was) based on the "Public Utility Model" (cf. jems, any
issue from the early to mid '80s).  There is another MedEvac at LR Children's
that (I think) is shared with Baptist Med Center.

Peter Laws, exNREMT-P
Associate Editor,
Radio Communications Monitoring Association (RCMA) Journal

Peter Laws              |"The '90s are gonna make the '60s|   pcl@engr.uark.edu
n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| look like the '50s"--D. Hopper  |plaws@uafsysb.bitnet

Peter Laws              |"The '90s are gonna make the '60s|   pcl@engr.uark.edu
n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| look like the '50s"--D. Hopper  |plaws@uafsysb.bitnet
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From: rwed@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (N7YVM)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services,ne.forsale,rec.radio.swap,rec.ham-radio.swap
Subject: Re: MOSTLY MOTOROLA RADIO EQUIPMENT FOR SALE
Date: 13 Nov 1992 01:40:59 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


>I was cleaning out the basement the other day and I found all the stuff
>that I wasn't using.                                                   
>                                                                       
>All Prices are negotiable                                              

 ^ Is this a general observation? :)

 Where were the asking prices? Just curious cuz I saw some
 stuff I might want..
From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Gif's of Fire Stations and/or Fire Truc
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 17:55:00 -0800

On <08 Nov, 18:39>, John Rickabaugh wrote to All :

JR> Looking for GIF's of Fire Stations or Fire Trucks.  If anyone has
JR> something to this effect, please leave filename and I'll FREQ.
JR>
JR> Thanks
JR>
JR> John
Hi John:
I have a nice collection of FIRE.GIFs . Just request the Whistle.arj
and
the file list will tell you everything I have for FIRE.GIFs.
Feel free to request all you want..

Paul Vallone.
1:321/233 Whistle Stop (448-6292)  
 
 * Origin: Whistle Stop BBS {Berkshire County Fire Board} (1:321/233.0)
From: Richard.Shankman@f53.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Shankman)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: FIRE SERVICE SOFTWARE
Date: 1 Nov 92 09:22:00 GMT

BR>Our dept. is about to install 'putters in all the stations for
reporting and
BR>e-mail purposes.  I have been tasked to help train those
"computerphobic"
BR>personnel.  Because of my experience with BBSing I hae also been
taksed to
BR>set up a Dept. BBS.  Althought I have been using BBS for 12 years, I
don't
BR>know about setting one up or running it.  I do havelots of dos
experience,
BR>main-fraim sys-administration experience and I believe I can handle
it
BR>though.
BR>Thanks for the offer.
BR>Looking for your reply.
BR>Brian

I'd be happy to help you out in any way I can.  Just let me know when
we
can voice link for faster information transferr.

Rich

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From: Blynn.Mueller@f302.n10.z1.fidonet.org (Blynn Mueller)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: What is policy for drivin
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 19:13:00 -0800

Our department's policy on responding in pov to the station for alarms
or responding to the scene is that you obey all traffic laws. Use of
lights, etc, is prohibited on pov's in California. In the event that
you
are hooked for a traffic violation, you are then given an intensive
counseling session by either a B/C or D/C or both. The subject is
usually covered at drill on a quarterly basis or more often when
necessary.

 * OLX 2.1 * Barstow Fire Department/Comm Support 361


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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:24:12 EST
From:         A249000 Mike Wilson <A249@NMUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: T-Shirts.

Hi Bruce, I wear a large. Thanks. Mike
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: thurs_j@aelle.cs.odu.edu (Jason Thurston)
Subject: Need info on FPE program at UMD
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:54:42 GMT

I have seen quite a few people on here from the DC/MD area. I am
hoping that someone on here can give me some information about the
fire protection engineering program at University of Maryland-College
Park. (i.e.--contact persons, admission requirements for transfer
students, etc.) I would appreciate any responses pertaining to it.
Please e-mail me if at all possible so we don't tie up the net.

					Thanks,
					Jason

==============================================================================
|  Jason Thurston                       |  thurs_j@cs.odu.edu                |
|  Firefighter III/EMT-A                |____________________________________|
|  City of Chesapeake Fire Department    \ Dial 911, make a firefighter come!| 
|  Electrical Engineering (for now!)       \Paramedics save lives...         |
|  Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va., USA\   EMT's save paramedics...    |
==============================================================================
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:59:41 EDT
Comments:     Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X
Comments:     Resent-From: <MEG04@ALBNYDH2>
From:         MEG04@ALBNYDH2.BITNET
Subject:      Re: MAST QUESTION

                           Mike Gilbertson
                           (meg04@albnydh2.bitnet)
*** Forwarding note from MAILER  --ALBNYDH2 11/04/92 22:31 ***
Kenneth R Aron <kra@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU> recently posted
on the list EMERG-L@MARIST the following message:
The answer to your question lies in the fact that the poster was
from New York City.  Because New York City is as large as it is,
and had the largest EMS in the world, it can, by arrangement with
the State, set its own protocols.  The one example mentioned, is
that in New York CITY, anti-shock trousers are now (since app.
May) contraindicated when presented with penetrating chest
trauma.  The New York STATE protocol has not changed.  Hope this
clears things up.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Not quite true!  New York City does not have permission to have
a different set of protocols.  The protocol for the whole state
was recently modified.  The NYC*EMS people have in-serviced their
people, and the regional EMS council there has gotten the word out to
others.  The revised STATE protocols are at the printers and will be
mailed to providers throughout the state as soon as they are back.
From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: FIRE.GIFS
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:32:00 -0800

Hi Joel:
I noticed in my Front Door Log, you requested the WHISTLE.ARJ. And one
of
the FIRE.GIFS files, if you have any you like to share with me. You can
send them threw the mailer I would love to get more FIRE.GIFS on the
board...

                    Later..
                    Paul Vallone  
 
 * Origin: Whistle Stop BBS {Berkshire County Fire Board} (1:321/233.0)
From: Paul.Kasper@f503.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Kasper)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: CAD SOFTWARE
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 19:19:00 -0800

BM> Does anyone know of any shareware programs for CAD? I am Captain of
a
BM> Comm Support unit with the Barstow FPD and while our Department is
BM> usually dispatched from a regional center 30 miles away, typically
we
BM> have 9 or 10 microwave outtages a year and Comm Support takes over
BM> dispatch locally. I am looking for something that could be handled
by a
BM> laptop with a 40 Meg hard drive and could keep track of 10 to 15
pieces
BM> of apparatus. Due to budget crunch,etc., I cannot pitch a full
BM> commercial CAD system to the District for the limited amount of
times
BM> per year that we dispatch. Any ideas or sources would be greatly
BM> appreciated.
try the fire_125 software  
BM> --- WM v2.04/92-0345
BM> * Origin: ///AVCOMM BBS\\\ of Barstow, CA [(619)253-2005]
(1:10/302)
BM> SEEN-BY: 137/7 503

 * Origin: The Ranch House (1:137/503)
From: Karl.Hendry@f35.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Karl Hendry)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Fidonet feed
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:03:11 -0800

JL>From: jrcodl@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
JL>Reply-To: jrcodl@ritvax.isc.rit.edu


                ^^^^^^^^^^^
                    I recieve this net through Fido and am accustomed
to
it's standardized format. In regards to  all these funny codes and the
beginning and end of many of these messages, what types of systems are
all these messages generated and recieved on?

JL>Is there any way that I/we can convince the newsgroup powers that be
to
JL>eliminate the fidonet feed from the group misc.emerg-services?
JL>There is just too much trash (patches for sale,star trek groupies,
personal
JL>communication) to wade through to get to the serious issue related
JL>information which is the purpose (I believe) of this group.
JL>The signal to noise ratio is just too low to make this worthwhile.
JL>John
JL>Firefighter/EMT II
JL>*******************************************************************
JL>John Coburn                The opinions expressed are not necessary
JL>JRCODL@RITVAX.RIT.EDU
JL>JRCODL@RITVAX.BITNET
JL>JRCODL@BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU
JL>JRCODL@CERAMICS.BITNET
JL>*******************************************************************

JL>---
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  DeLuxe/386 1.12 #3884  I'm not an MD and I don't play one on TV.
 * Origin: COLOSSUS ]II[ Sys. 6.0gig 12 lines, 913-897-6667 (1:280/35)
From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: scanner database door
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:38:46 -0800

 -=> Quoting Rick Wilson to Kenneth Grimard <=-

 kg> Does any one know where i can find a scanner database door
 kg> for an ibm bbs. I am currently running fd/remote access.

The BEST door program I have found, would be the ScannerBuff! program, 
it has a program for the individual user, and a program for the Door, 
with interchangable data files.  Really Neat!  If you cannot find it
locally, leave me a note, and we will try to get it to you.
( I have no connection with the program, the author, or any other 
phase, aspect, or religion of the program, and expect no renumeration
for 
same) (grin)


... Call 911 - Make a Fireman Come!
 * Origin: The ACE of Spades BBS (1:116/33)
From: Barbara.Mezzanini@f7.n2609.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Mezzanini)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Albany Conference
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 00:24:00 -0800

 SS> again and there were some other interesting lectures/workshops. I
will
 SS> be up there with my partner and about 6 other people from my
station.
 SS> We will be staying at the Marriot. The rooms are in my name so if
you

   Shreyas, I registered today for the conference :)
   Will also be staying at the Marriott, so it should be
   pretty easy to find ya <g>.

 SS> It'd be great if we could get a couple of people together from the
net
 SS> and meet up! Well , talk to ya l8r. Shreyas

   I think it'd be great too! Looking forward to meeting you,
   and any others who may be going from the net.

   Take care,

   *Barb*
... Honest ociffer, there's no blood in my alcohol content!!
 * Origin: PowerLine 315-865-4070 Marcy NY (1:2609/7.0)
From: Joe.Noel@f4.n3805.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Noel)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Items for Sale
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:32:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: remote.721525017.F00035


 > INCLUDES: FIRE DEPARTMENT ITEMS, SCUBA DIVING ITEMS, COMPUTER ITEMS

 > Wild Cat BBS Ver. 3.01 Single node             $50.00

Watch out!!  If Donald has a more current version of Wildcat that is
running under the same registration, you will be in a VERY big surprise
when you try to register this one!!!   A local sysop got into the same
thing, bought an old version thinking he could upgrade it.  WildCat does
not work that way.  He ended up putting up a different BBS package after
paying for WC!

Joe

 * Origin: Fire Point, BOCA 14.4 V.32b\V42b (817)592-2960 (1:3805/4)
From: Bruce.Phillips@f182.n132.z1.fidonet.org (Bruce Phillips)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Voulunteer FD and Lights
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 22:43:00 -0800

> The siren must be audible from 500 feet, and the lighting
> requirement is
> alternately flashing red lights to the front and rear,
> visible from 500 feet
> in broad daylight.
> --
You may want to make lights visable from 360 degrees... 

 * Origin: KEEP A FIRE FIGHTER WARM THIS WINTER, TAKE HIM TO BED...
(1:132/182)
From: Joe.Tomaso@f702.n278.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Tomaso)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: CORRECTION FOR CT FIRE NOTIFICATION
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 10:18:00 -0800

                             NOTICE
Connecticut Fire Notification is now operating a scanner notification
network. This network is part of a nationwide effort to keep you
informed of MAJOR happenings that are police and fire related. This
includes MAJOR fires,plane crashes,multiple homicides,etc. We will also
be giving updates on presidential visits and other matters of interest.
As it stands now we have currently affiliated ourselves with other
networks spanning from northern New Hampshire to New Jersey and
Philidelphia. We are also affiliated with a network in Washington D.C.
Our main goal is to eventually have members nationwide who will
distribute and gather this type of information. If you are interested in
joining our network please call (203) 772-1088 or (800) 443-7173.
Start up fee is $15.00,$7.00 per month dues if you own your own alpha
pager,or you can rent a pager from us for $12.00 per month. Our pagers
are good nationwide.

                                    
                                    Joe Tomaso
 * Origin: New York City Fire Department, New York, NY (1:278/702)
From: William.J..Vital@f430.n107.z1.fidonet.org (William J. Vital)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: What is policy for drivin
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:11:00 GMT


          Brian Matlok sent

On Nov 02, Jim Malkowski wrote:
 JM> Just wondering what the policy is for Volunteers driving to the
station to  JM> respond to their alarm? Our departments policy is
simple: obey all traffics laws.  We are not allowed to run lights, etc
on POVs in Oregon.

Ditto for New Jersey. NO Vehicle is allowed to disobey the traffic
laws/signals. Of course, falure to yield the right-of-way to either an
emergency displaying a red light (emergency vehicles) or a blue light
(volunteers' POV) is a violation of traffic regulations. (Try finding a
cop to issue the summons)

===
 * TLX v1.55* Had this been a real emergency, you'd be dust


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From: David.Rye@f10.n3649.z1.fidonet.org (David Rye)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Fidonet feed
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 10:38:00 -0800

 >  So...where is this any more superfluous than some messages in
 >  Fido.  Oh yeah...at least there we do use our real names.
    And FidoNet pays phone bills, unlike some other nets we are linked
to that I won't mention.  Perhaps we should pay more attention to the
message about mace suppliers that was posted earlier.

                                               Dave

 * Origin: Signal-7 BBS  Grandin, FL (904) 659-2337 (1:3649/10)
From: Steve.Sharp@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Sharp)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: MFB CONTROL
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 09:13:00 -0800

G'Day David, sorry to hear that Mr Kennett has already ripped of the
17.5% holiday loading down your way (did you actually get it? We don't,
but there is small payment built into the shift loading).

A question for you, I remember reading something a few months back about
how Melbourne Police/Fire/Ambulance control were going to trial a system
(similar to E911) where the controller would get a display of the
calling number and address when a 000 call came in.

Can you confirm/deny or shed any light on this?

Cheers Steve NSWFB 

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(3:714/20
From: Richard.Shankman@f53.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Shankman)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Software
Date: 1 Nov 92 09:17:00 GMT

AC>What I'm looking for is some way to input a members application and
be able
AC>to use that same information in a certian field and put in a training
file
AC>and our losap information. I'm am able to build a simple database for
the
AC>information but can not figure out how to put it all together. Any
AC>additional help would be thankful.
AC>---

Al,
  Fire Card Personnel Manager & Training Manager share database
  information.  I'd be happy to send you a demo if you like.  If it
  dosen't fit your needs I'd be happy to create one that does.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * A MagicWare Software Response to YOUR inquiry
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