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From: kickda@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Damien Kixk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: What is Hardcore????
Date: 12 Nov 1992 06:12:06 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
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In article <1992Nov10.062328.15784@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> wc8376@writer.yorku.ca (Theodore Wong) writes:
> ...
>Around 1981-82, the hardcore explosion started around the world.  In
>the U.S. the pioneers were bands like Minor Threat and Black Flag.  In
>Canada, they were the Subhumans and D.O.A.  Finland had Rattus and
>Terveet Kadet; Italy had Wretched, Indigesti, and the godlike Raw
>Power.  English bands were amongst the most influential like
>Discharge, Crass, and Flux of Pink Indians.  Bands and scenes popped
>up all over in the most unlikely places/countries.  The point is, 
>hardcore was never restricted to the U.S. and England like a lot of 
>people think.  Hardcore has always been and will always be a world-wide
>phenomenon.  
> ...
>Ted    wc8376@writer.yorku.ca 

       Can anyone tell me about the hardcore scence in Spain.  
  I'm considering spending half a year in Madrid and was sort
  of wondering what the hardcore thing looks like over there.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: Ian MacKaye (was Re: good hardcore bands)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:25:06 GMT

lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett) writes:

>>>>>> "jjbaron" == Jeff Baron <jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu> writes:
>jjbaron> Minor Threat is my alltime favorite HC band.  Has Ian MacKaye
>jjbaron> done anything else lately?  I have all the Minor Threat
>jjbaron> stuff, his Egghunt 45", Embrace, and Fugazi (13 songs, and 3
>jjbaron> Songs w/repeater) but has he released anything else with
>jjbaron> Fugazi or otherwise?

>Well, there's the new Fugazi album, but you probably knew that...
>Also, he sang in Pailhead with Al Jourgenson of Ministry.  Find
>Pailhead's _Trait_ CD and buy it.  It's good.  And it's everything

Is there more on the CD than was on the two 12" vynil?

>that strange pair ever made, though Al reportedly has more stuff he'd
>like to do with Ian...

Also in the Ian Mackaye discography is a recently released, but old,
7" by a band called Skewbald.
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From: lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Ian MacKaye (was Re: good hardcore bands)
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:25:10
Organization: ZikZak Corporation
	<1992Nov6.031709.11102@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
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In-reply-to: jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu's message of Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:17:09 GMT

>>>>> "jjbaron" == Jeff Baron <jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu> writes:
jjbaron> Minor Threat is my alltime favorite HC band.  Has Ian MacKaye
jjbaron> done anything else lately?  I have all the Minor Threat
jjbaron> stuff, his Egghunt 45", Embrace, and Fugazi (13 songs, and 3
jjbaron> Songs w/repeater) but has he released anything else with
jjbaron> Fugazi or otherwise?

Well, there's the new Fugazi album, but you probably knew that...

Also, he sang in Pailhead with Al Jourgenson of Ministry.  Find
Pailhead's _Trait_ CD and buy it.  It's good.  And it's everything
that strange pair ever made, though Al reportedly has more stuff he'd
like to do with Ian...

.s.
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From: cwoolner@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: show in providence
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:23:17 GMT
Organization: Hampshire College

this sunday(i think) in providence there's a show with sticks and stones, icon-
oclast, merel, and other bands you should see. i don't know where. 
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jeff Baron)
Subject: Re: Straightedge! -- Ian Mckaye
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:06:19 GMT

In article <1dju2vINNd0b@spool.mu.edu> kickda@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Damien Kixk) writes:
>          Here is a point of base interest ...  I have this
>   friend who tells me that Mr. Mckaye smoked a joint with
>   some friends of his after a show.  Ummm ... has anyone


He better not have.  But I guess he didn't rule out cannibas with lyrics
like "...I've got better things to do then sit around and fuck my head, hang
out with the living dead, snort white shit up my nose, pass out at the shows,
I don't even think about speed, that's something I just don't need..."

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Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Subject: SSD?
Reply-To: tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:37:03 GMT


Hey..I was wondering if S.S Decontrol's "If the kids were united.." or likewise has been re-released on CD or on lp or anything? Im desperate to hear this 
album!

-tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
From: freier@mail.physics.utah.edu (rodney james freier)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: ruling out...
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:00:37 GMT
Organization: University of Utah - Physics Department

Speaking of ruling out.... Queensryche?   Is that a little too soft?  
Just wondering....

rod
U of U can't be held responsible for anything
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: Jello Biafra
Originator: tphailey@c00092-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:31:58 GMT


>Ice-T also uses a sample from him on his Freedom of Speech album (can't  
>remember the cut).  Another Jello side project I haven't seen mentioned is  
>Tumor Circus.  This is some really great stuff so check it out if you can!
>-Brian

I thought I mentioned Tumor Circus in an earlier post, but maybe I fucked up 
and didn't post it. But anyway, isn't Tumor Circus Jello with Steele Pole
Bathtub? 

TOMASS
From: jamess@Ingres.COM (James Stanley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: 7 seconds
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:31:43 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Nov12.042919.24213@ncsu.edu>, tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS writes...
> 
>>whatever hapened to 7 seconds?  anyone know of kevin's whereandwhat 
>>abouts?...

>Kevin has a new band call <gasp> Drop Acid. The just released something on a
>label. Was it Cargo or Headhunter?

Headhunter, which is a subsidiary of Cargo based in San Diego.
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Subject: nation of ulysseys
Reply-To: tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:19:06 GMT


hey.  Anyone have some information on why Nation of Ulysseys broke up?  They
cancelled a show here in NY and apparently had broken up a few days before it.

Anyway, Im going to see Rollins Band/Beastie Boys in a few hours.  im siked.

-tl24
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: bad religion
Originator: tphailey@c00394-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:23:35 GMT


   There's been a recent thread of Bad Religion talk and I just want to set 
some things straight. Greg Graffin is hardly a professor. He is a grad student 
and all you collegiate punks should know the difference. He teaches some 
classes, mainly labs. Hell, I could teach a Pascal lab here at NCSU and I'm
only a sophomore. A lot of this stuff I already knew, but it's recently been 
confirmed by someone at Cornell where Greg attends school. From what I hear, 
Greg is pretty egotistical about himself, the band, and other things right down
to his big pick up truck. He's also supposedly patronizing of a lot of punks.
This is something I do not need. Bad Religion as a band are really great, but
I think their individual personalities have been elevated to standards they
don't quite meet. Sure, Greg may be reasonably intelligent, but it's really
Mr. Brett who writes most of the lyrics. Remember, their just people like you
and me.

TOMASS  
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: patrick@ecf.toronto.edu (Patrick Edward)
Subject: LAND OF THE GIANTS
Keywords: meaningless stupidity and profanity
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 09:13:20 GMT

Has anyone out there heard of a really freaked out bunch of fuck ups, that
put out records about ten years ago called (you guessed it) LAND OF THE
GIANTS. They made only one song that got air play on campus radio it was
called "Valley of the cannibal dolls".

If you have, do you know any one who has got a copy of this shit.
I would love to get my grubby little claws on one.

Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: reddog@sage.cc.purdue.edu (RedDog)
Subject: Re: Neurosis
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:58:04 GMT

In article <1dhik4INNbab@agate.berkeley.edu> dbucher@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Bucher) writes:
>
>Neurosis KICKS ASS. Or at least their first two albums did, and last
>time I saw them (two years ago) they still did. You didn't just miss
>_anything_, you missed _everything_! Of all the records I have, the last
>one I would ever part with is Neurosis "Pain Of Mind". 
>
>-Dan
>
>

DITTO

RedDog
From: cuajg@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Arthur Gramlich)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS...
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:22:56 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

I'd agree. I do think that a band like Ministry could be considered
Hardcore though even though it's a bit different (what would you call
them?)

On a unrelated subject, can anyone tell me about the band Lard? I
haven't heard much but I am interested.
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: zxmda01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Christof Damian)
Subject: Re: Hardcore...
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:20:37 GMT

In <5NOV199211441276@trentu.ca> ibonnycastle@trentu.ca (The Black Wolf) writes:

>Personally, I'm into the heavy-metal/inustrial type myself.. maybe not as 
>hardcore as some people would like.

I'm more into the tekkno/hartcore stuff. But maybe this group is more 
Rap-Hardcore like, but this i like to.

Rave on Damian
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From: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au (Bunweasel)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: punk/pop -> hardcore
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:39:49 GMT
Reply-To: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Queensland

>My favorite bands of all time are Stiff Little Fingers, The Buzzcocks,
 ...
>like-- that is those who are raw and powerful but still maintain a melodic
>edge?  I'm never really sure what to pick up when I'm looking through
>hardcore bins. 

Hmm, yeah, I'm a bit out of touch too, but more interested in bands
that are willing to dispense with melody entirely in the pursuit of
the hardness of core. (I love Napalm Death, but think Big Black are
too poppish/metallish)

Maybe these could be asterisked in such a list of recommendations.

-Bunweasel


Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: True hardcorre
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 00:21:00 GMT


Well, I don't know what the original intention of this
group was, but to me hardcore is punk rock that's played
at blazing speed. It's also an attitude, "in your face,"
as one poster said but also tolerant and pretty damn cool.

Bill

"punk ain't no religious cult
 punk means thinking for yourself
 you ain't hardcore when you spike your hair
 when a jock still lives inside your head"

 Nazi Punks Fuck Off  by the Dead Kennedys
From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Suggestions...
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:40:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Nov10.061207.12827@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, peavy@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (PEAVY ROBERT MARSHAL) writes:
> 
> 
> My favorite bands are Decendents, All, Agent Orange, Lemonheads, and have
> recently acquired a Samiam disc.  I am looking for any other punk/pop / popcore
> bands out there.  Green Day, Big Drill Car, and early Chemical People (I guess
> most of the Cruz label) have been recomended.  Any other's?  I'm getting bored
> of my music.
> 
> Marshall
> peavy@rintintin.colorado.edu

Try Stiff Little Fingers, greatest band ever...
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: True hardcorre
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:10:33 GMT

In article 1dcco9INN113@darkstar.UCSC.EDU, cpluis@cats.ucsc.edu (Mulatto) writes:
>
>What the fuck are you all fuckin wiinies doing here, in this newsgroup?
>
>this is a group for slayer, napon, death, pestilence, bad religion, etc..

How the fuck can you even THINK about putting Slayer in the same
sentence as Bad Religion.

Calling _us_ fuckin weenies.  Jeez.  Fuckin twit.

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	Did William Faulkner have little creatures on his old typewriter?
	If so, they were the product of whiskey, which addles the brain less
	than cartoon creatures and menus and buttons that send messages to
	the screen demanding: "Abort? Quit? Try Again? Drop Dead? Exit? Go To
	Hell You Schnook?" - Mike Royko
From: lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Jello Biafra
Followup-To: alt.music.hardcore
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:46:24
Organization: ZikZak Corporation
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In-reply-to: galt%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu's message of 5 Nov 92 17:05:07 MST

>>>>> "galt" == Greg Alt <galt%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu> writes:
galt> I was wondering if I have everything by Jello Biafra.  Here's a
galt> list, is there anything else?

galt> Spoken word:
galt> No more Coccoons
galt> High Priest of Harmful Matter

double album - I Blow Minds For A Living

galt> Lard: The Power of Lard

the Last Temptation of Reid LP

Also, he did the flag pledge on Ministry's "In Case You Didn't Feel
Like Showing Up".  Tape it from the VHS.  It's cool...

Also, he was in a movie (I forget the title...  Something City...) and
there was a soundtrack with lots of Biafra...  "That's Progress" with
DOA and one with Nomeansno...

.s.
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From: pogo@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Chris Gual)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: any net bands?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 06:10:00 GMT
Organization: Russell Street HardCore
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

scq6817@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>AUGH!
>well.....umm...i love Green Magnet School...i wouldn't call it hardcore but still angry and unrelenting...how did they perform? i saw em at WAG before it shut down and then again at lollapalooza...i'd say one of the better bands around right now...

they wern't that hot. they were all drunk off their asses...

pogo
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From: mcsdc1sjm2@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: REALLY NOT VERY CONTREVERSIAL MESSAGE AT ALL REALLY FROM GRAHAM
Summary: WIBBLY WIBBLY WOB FRAP GRIBBLE BLARF DING.
Keywords: CRUMBS....
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:15:12 GMT
Reply-To: FAT RONNY AND THE BAMPOTS
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology






         THE SENSELESS THINGS HAVE THIS SHORT MESSAGE FOR YOU ALL:-



                     GIVE BLOOD AND FEEL GOOD.


























































































                           THANK YOU.
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re:  FLIPPER
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:21:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.235046.280@tellab5.tellabs.com> pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.050621.1494@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> bond@oyster.cps.msu.edu (Curtis R Bond) writes:
>>Ho how the mighty have fallen. Went to Flint on Devils Night to catch GWAR and
>>Flipper, and was greatly saddend by the changes that come over Flipper. No long
>>the band we once loved but now a cheese fest from beyond. The "Flippets", a bunch
>>of no self esteem females in string bikinis, poured beer over thier bodies in
>>order for the band members to lick it off them. This was enhanced by the bands
>>new meatal sound, which was about as stale as you could get. The final blow was
>>that they played only five songs, which in retrospect was a good thing. 
>>	So don't waste your time going to see them it is not worth it. How ever
>>GWAR was in great form and definately worth seeing.
>
>Well, what do you expect?  You can't have Flipper without Will Shatter.
>And he's dead.
>*sigh*

I'm of a different mind. I've seen Flipper every chance I could.
I saw them only 3 or 4 times while Will was alive, and while
I agree it's a different band without him, I still think it's
Flipper. Ted is still one of the best guitarists out there,
especially for that sort of grunge, and I think John the new
guy handles the bass real well. I do think Bruce has become a lot
more cynical and maybe doesn't put as much of himself into the show.
I also think that how they are varies alot from show to show.
Also, seeing Flipper opening is not the same as seeing Flipper
headlining. When I saw them last I liked the new stuff and am
psyched for it to be released. 

One of the funniest times I ever saw Flipper was when they
were opening for this guy named DJ Leibowitz, a nerdy looking
character who had just released an album of classic hardcore
covers, all done instrumentally on the *piano*! Flipper must
have been friends with him, because they opened. They played
about 4 songs before deciding to stop, kicking over the drums
in good obnoxious fashion. At one point they stopped and refused
to play until they were brought beer. ("Beer for the Band!
Beer for the Band!") and when the waitress brought them
(it was Will, Bruce, Ted and Steve back then) Coronas, Bruce
said "it's not Budweiser!", which got him a richly deserved
middle finger. As they were hauling their equipment out, some
person from the club (DNA lounge in SF) tried to argue with
Bruce which got the dude an amp dragged over his foot. Flipper
then hung out at the bar for the piano recital, and even joined
DJ on stage (Will and Bruce) and sang when he played Ha Ha Ha.

Yeah, it's not the same without Will, but that grunge groove
is imprinted on my brain, so I get a fix any time I can, and
always enjoy it, even the worst of shows are the best. 'Cause
it's Flipper!

Let's hear some more concert experiences!

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: stu5s33@bnr.ca (Jerry Boonstra)
Subject: Re: SNFU
Reply-To: stu5s33@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research Ltd
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:12:57 GMT

In article 29325@leland.Stanford.EDU, lint@leland.Stanford.EDU (Graham Spencer (NOUid 0091)) writes:

>They broke up and Mr. Chi Pig played for a while in a band called the
>Wheat Chiefs, but now SNFU are back together again (as of maybe a year
>or so ago?).

Actually, Ken Chin (aka Chi Pig) moved to Vancouver and started "The Wongs".  They
lasted about a year or two, then they kicked him out (or so the rumor says).

The "Wheat Chiefs" are comprised of the Belke brothers (I think)...oh well, two other
guys from SNFU (maybe the bass player and rhythm guitar), but not Chi Pig...they are
still together but on hiatus while the newly reformed SNFU tours to rake in some
cash.  SNFU played throughout Western Canada at the beginning of this year and toured
Europe in the summer.  They played Edmonton (mine and their hometown) twice in 2
months.  YAY!!!

They seem to be far more popular now than they ever were when they were together the
first time.  That frustration was the major reason they ditched the group.  Maybe now
things might change though.  BTW, if you have a chance, go see the Wheat Chiefs. 
They play more of a straight-ahead RnR sound, but IMHO, kick.


Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: reddog@sage.cc.purdue.edu (RedDog)
Subject: my favs
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:56:18 GMT

Here's a list of my "hardcore" (oohh) favs.

BAD RELIGION
CRINGER
J CHURCH
SPITBOY
ECONOCHRIST



JAWBBREAKER
OPIVY
CITIZEN FISH
ONCE AGAIN
BLATZ
JACK ACID
JUKE
15
GOOD GRIEF
PINHEAD GUNPOWDER
VINDICTIVES
SCREECHING WEASEL
GREEN DAY
SAMIAM
CHUMBAWAMBA
ANTISCHISM
NAUSEA
LAG WAGON


Maybe these are not ALL hardcore, but its just a list of my favorites, 
rockin, ska, poppy-punk, noise.

Did anyone see SAMIAM in Chicago last Wed?

RedDog

Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jeff Baron)
Subject: Re: What is Hardcore????
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:22:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.204707.20269@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jeff Baron) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.062328.15784@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> wc8376@writer.yorku.ca (Theodore Wong) writes:
>>In article <92314.145153ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu> ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>>the U.S. the pioneers were bands like Minor Threat and Black Flag.  In
>>Canada, they were the Subhumans and D.O.A.  Finland had Rattus and
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Somehow my comment was absent from my last post but I wanted
to say that as far as I know, the Subhumans were from England.

|SUB|HUM|ANS|

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