HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu (James Wiegand)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,alt.privacy,sci.crypt
Subject: Re: New Developments on Digital Telephony
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:51:04 GMT
Organization: Temple University EE Dept.

In article <1992Nov13.110529.1729@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> denning@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>Peter forwarded this to me this morning.  I thought you should
>know about it because of its likely implications for crypto 
>regulation.
>
>  From cgtransition@rock.little.ar.us Thu Nov 12 09:12:46 1992
>  Return-Path: <cgtransition@rock.little.ar.us>
>  Received: from rock.little.ar.us by cs.gmu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1)
>          id AA17763; Thu, 12 Nov 92 09:13:37 EST
>  Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 09:15:10 EST
>  Subject: TRANSITION NOTES #76
>  
>  12 Nov 92
>  CONFIDENTIAL -- For team eyes only
>  
>  We have completed discussions with our prime candidate for
>  Director of the FBI and will make the name public shortly.
>  Al asked him explicitly about his technology concerns and how
>  the new admin can help.  [Director] said he was concerned about
>  the so-called digital telephony proposal which, he says, must be
>  passed if the FBI is to continue the same level of service to
>  the American people.  Al said he could help out in Congress.
>  [Director] said that is not enough.  Currently there is one FBI
>  agent for every 12,200 Americans, which means that most phone
>  calls cannot be monitored even if FBI wanted to.  He proposed
>  hiring 100,000,000 new agents so that one can be assigned full
>  time to listen to each American telephone line.  He suggested
>  this could be the massive jobs program that Bill has been
>  looking for -- it would virtually eliminate unemployment in the
>  country and go well beyond his promise to the American people.
>  He said that Bill could be known as the most listening
>  president the country has ever known.  Al said the idea was
>  intriguing and he would discuss it with Bill.
>  
>  W.C.
>
>Dorothy Denning
>denning@cs.georgetown.edu

This is a joke, right? I thought filtering was up to the NSA guys.

jim
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,misc.int-property,alt.suit.att-bsdi,comp.unix.bsd
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: RSA Patent Abuse
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:02:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <id.3Z0V.D62@ferranti.com>, peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:
> In article <1992Nov14.062548.7038@u.washington.edu> tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
> > Historical question: when did interest in public key cryptography become
> > widespread among computer users?  I recall that there was a public key
> > email system from AT&T on some early Unix release (32V, I think).
> 
> As I recall, secretmail was a private-key system. I'll check in my 2BSD
> manual when I get home.
> 
> > Most people seemed to play with it a bit, and then go to regular email for
> > pretty much everything.
> 
> Yep, it was pretty annoying to use, as well as being no more secure than
> ordinary mail since your key was only protected by the file system security
> and your email was already protected that well.

No on the first count, not really on the second (rather, no worse than
PGP or PEM).  And the knapsack algorithm has since been cracked.
Here's what the man page says on 4.3bsd; it's identical to what's in my
(hard-copy) V7 manual:


XSEND(1)                 USER COMMANDS                   XSEND(1)

NAME
     xsend, xget, enroll - secret mail

SYNOPSIS
     xsend person
     xget
     enroll

DESCRIPTION
     These commands implement a secure communication channel;  it
     is like mail(1), but no one can read the messages except the
     intended recipient.  The method embodies a public-key  cryp-
     tosystem using knapsacks.

     To receive messages, use enroll; it asks you for a  password
     that  you must subsequently quote in order to receive secret
     mail.

     To receive secret mail, use xget.  It asks  for  your  pass-
     word, then gives you the messages.

     To send secret mail, use xsend in the  same  manner  as  the
     ordinary  mail  command.   (However, it will accept only one
     target).  A message announcing the receipt of secret mail is
     also sent by ordinary mail.

FILES
     /usr/spool/secretmail/*.key: keys
     /usr/spool/secretmail/*.[0-9]: messages

SEE ALSO
     mail (1)

BUGS
     It should be integrated with ordinary mail.   The  announce-
     ment of secret mail makes traffic analysis possible.

Homer-land               April 29, 1985                         1

Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: right to have .plan
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:26:27 GMT

baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin) writes:

[...]
>However, it is far from clear that such decisions would preclude
>something which is clearly personal expression on a machine at that
>level.
[...]

Universities are not automatically required to allow personal
experssion in .plans. But if they do (most seem to), they are legally
required to be evenhanded and consistent about what they allow.

>That said, how long do you think a "personal" expression of some
>really vile racist statement would last in such a forum?  (Both as an
>abstract legal issue and as a practical matter.)

Legally, forever. Practically, they would might ban all .plans.  But,
then again, they might not. At Boston U. a private university, someone
but some ICE-T lyrics in his .plan. There were complaints, but the
lyrics are still there.

>  None of the (rather
>impressive) "annotated references" you provided seem to indicate that
>a university computer's managers are merely providing a "common
>carrier" for expression.  I can see where they might still have an
>interest in suppressing certain categories of speech.
[...]

"Common carrier" is perhaps the wrong term. I think a better term is
"public forum". I'm enclosing a pointer to a court decision that
describes the public forum doctrine.

- Carl

ANNOTATED REFERENCES

(All these documents are available on-line. Access information follows.)

=================
news/cafv02n38: Message-Id: <JBW.92Jul16195814@bigbird.bu.edu>
=================
An article from the Computers and Academic Freedom News 02.38

Notes 7-8 are about .plan files that might offend.

7.  "I recently put the lyrics to "Cop Killer" by Ice-T in my .plan file so
that it shows up when someone else does "finger jbw@cs.bu.edu".
Two people have complained to my department's chair... .He asked
me informally to remove it.  I told him I would not do so voluntarily."

=================
law/san-diego-committee-v-gov-bd
=================
* Expression -- Public Forum -- Overview -- San Diego Committee v. Gov Bd

Excerpts from San Diego Committee v.  Governing Bd., 790 F.2d 1471.  A
decision by an appellate court that applied the Supreme Court's Public
Forum Doctrine (to a school newspaper).

=================
=================

If you have gopher, you can browse the CAF archive with the command
   gopher gopher.eff.org

These document(s) are also available by anonymous ftp (the preferred
method) and by email. To get the file(s) via ftp, do an anonymous ftp
to ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4), and get file(s):

  pub/academic/news/cafv02n38
  pub/academic/law/san-diego-committee-v-gov-bd

To get the file(s) by email, send email to archive-server@eff.org.
Include the line(s) (be sure to include the space before the file
name):

send acad-freedom/news cafv02n38
send acad-freedom/law san-diego-committee-v-gov-bd
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From: Bob.Ratliff@f6507.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Ratliff)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: hello
Date: 22 Nov 92 02:40:00 GMT

Please let me know where you are getting your usenet feed, and if it may be 
available to others.
What utility are you using to get it to import to the hudson msg base?
What are you using to call the usenet connection?
You can netmail me at fido 1:124/7020 and I will get it faster.
Regards, an ex Ra sysop. Now using the new Ezycom bbs.  
 
 * Origin: *AmeriComm* in Dallas,TX 214/373-7314 - The info source. (1:124/6507)
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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,misc.int-property,alt.suit.att-bsdi,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Interface monopolies
From: jim@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 23:04:06 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden) writes:

> jim@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:
> 
> >I'll try to dig up some sources, but my point is more one of what
> >should distinguish design patents from copyrights.  There is, for
> >example, a design patent covering handle angles for some tools.
> 
> Note that a copyright will not protect the angle of those handles.
> There seems to be little if any overlap between design patents and
> copyrights.
> 
I provided the example of the tool handle because I thought it was
an appropriate use of design patents.

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From: bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,misc.int-property,alt.suit.att-bsdi,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Interface monopolies
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:01:45 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

jim@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:

>I'll try to dig up some sources, but my point is more one of what
>should distinguish design patents from copyrights.  There is, for
>example, a design patent covering handle angles for some tools.

Note that a copyright will not protect the angle of those handles.
There seems to be little if any overlap between design patents and
copyrights.

Bruce E. Hayden
(303) 758-8400
bhayden@csn.org
From: ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Public Key Registration
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:58:34 GMT
Organization: Republicans for Sanity

I'm a tad bit confused about Ms. Denning and other's proposals regarding
this area. I thought one of the fundamental concepts of our society
is 'innocent until proven guilty'. The proposal to register public
keys seems to my naive eyes to be a clear violation of this
principal. In effect it says 'you might be guilty, so please provide
us with the evidence to convict you'. To put her proposal in a
simpler vein:Imagine that microphones and cameras were placed in
your house and were constantly recording your activity. But the
government couldn't access them unless it got three different code
cards from three different private agencies. Unless they have a
court order, they can't access those microphones and cameras, so
whats the problem? Or imagine that all your mail and phone calls are
intercepted and recorded but only listened to if the intercepting
agency has a warrant to read it's own records. After all, whats the
problem? They will only violate your privacy if they have a reason
to think your a criminal!

The fundamental problem with public key registration is that its
easy and relatively inexpensive to do. The idea of intercepting and
recording all mail and telephone calls or of putting cameras and
microphones in your house are both prohibitivly expensive. Though I
wonder, if the equipment should fall in price to the point of
basically being 'free', will people come out proposing cameras and
intercepts as well?

					The Jester
-- 
For some reason unintelligible to me, Lord Acton's dictum that
"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
is rarely raised in connection with judges, who...possess power
..that comes [close] to being absolute"-Judge Bork
From: "cloyd laporte iii" <cloyd.laporte.iii@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: arter & hadden"apolog
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:53:51 EST
Reply-To: "cloyd laporte iii" <cloyd.laporte.iii@execnet.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Executive Networks Information

Finally, Arter & Hadden issued the following "apology":

***************************************************************
  Statement of Clarification from Arter & Hadden - 11/10/92
***************************************************************

The News Release you received from Nintendo of America was provided
for INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.  No response is required [in your
dreams, fella |-) - ed.]. You were selected to recieve this News
Release only because you are a person who is interested in or
involved with bulletin boards.  The fact that you recieved this News
Release does not mean that you or the BBS you operate are under
investigation. Moreover, Nintendo of America has not singled out for
investigation users [sic] of PCBoard software.  The single civil
lawsuit that was the subject of the News Release was filed against
the APL BBS in Baltimore, MD.  The APL BBS was strictly a pirate
board, and the system operator encouraged APL users to upload and
download large amounts of illegal software.  CLARK DEVELOPMENT
COMPANY, INC. WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS LAWSUIT AND DID NOT SEE THE
NEWS RELEASE IN ADVANCE OF ITS DISTRIBUTION. We recognize that there
are many legitimate bulletin boards and many honest systems
operators who support the ethical use of software.  Unless you have
questions about the action taken agains the APL BBS, however, please
do not call Clark Development, Nintendo or Nintendo's attorneys.

Please be aware that after this clarification has been mailed to all
customers of Clark Development, the customer list which was used for
the original mailing of the News Release will be promptly returned
to Clark Development and no copies will be retained.

Please pass this message on to anyone you know who received the News
Release.
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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
Subject: Re: 2600 Busts in D.C.
Originator: mnemonic@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:16:48 GMT

In article <92322.133709JDG111@psuvm.psu.edu> <JDG111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Being one of the unfortunate souls who was "detained" at PumpCon, I was wonderi
>ng if the SS or FBI has DEFINATELY been linked to the raid?  While I was there
>(the whole damn night) the only people we saw or taled to were local police and
> investigators.  None of  the detectives claimed to be federal agents.  I have
>attempted to keep in touch with those who were arrested there, as well as th ot
>hers who where there, and no one has told me the feds were definately involved.
>  Does anyone have DEFINITE proof they were/were not there?

In my investigations of the two cases, I have found absolutely no evidence
that there is any connection between the two incidents.


--Mike




-- 
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mnemonic@eff.org| breaking a sweat. It's that simple."
(617) 864-0665  | 
EFF, Cambridge  |                           --Hercule Perot
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!shiva@cactus.org (System Smof)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Risks of Using PGP 2.0
Date: 22 Nov 1992 19:15:16 -0600
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

For me, the point is moot, since I don't trust PGP 2.0 anyway. I don't like
the fact that it only uses RSA for the keys and not for the message text
itself; it's just not good enough. It's fine if all you want is message
authentification.
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From: paul@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Paul Chen)
Subject: PostScrip in lps20, help!
Organization: City College of New York - Science Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:59:34 GMT


We have some problems to print some PostScript files in lps20.
But these files can be printed in QMS or HP without problems.
Lps20 can process most of PS files, only some of PS graph or 'special'
files have problem to print. May be we need more fonts?
How can I check what kind of fonts we have? 
Any sugestions are welcome!

Thanks in advance.

Please reply via e-mail.

Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.org.decus,comp.os.vms
From: whitman@stsci.edu
Subject: Converting from LaTex to Decwrite
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:11:53 GMT

Has anybody out there had any experience trying to convert something from
LaTex to Decwrite.  I have some documents that I need to do this with, and
so far the only way I have found is to convert the LaTex to something called
AFS and then import it into Decwrite. This is proving not to be too easy.
Has anybody written any converters to get directly into Decwrite or into one of
the other formats that Decwrite will import like: AFS, CGM, DCA, DX, MACPAINT,
SGML, TIFF, WPL.  I don't even know what most of these are, but if you
know a way to get from LaTex into them, it would be helpful.

Please email me if you have any suggestions.

Thanks,
Rick Whitman
From: jms@carat.arizona.edu (A virtually vegetal non-entity)
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Las Vegas symposium - pre-symposium concert
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:36:00 GMT
Reply-To: jms@Arizona.EDU
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
X-Lunar-Date: 5 days, 20 hours, 58 minutes since the full moon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50A

Those of you not in Arizona might not know that the Grateful Dead will
be performing two shows in Phoenix the Saturday and Sunday before DECUS
Las Vegas.  The concert is a 4-to-6 hour drive from Las Vegas, or about
a $30 airplane ticket. 

This is another in a long tradition of Grateful Dead/DECUS joint
ventures---you may remember that the last Las Vegas symposium had a
Grateful Dead concert the Sat and Sun before.  Anyway, a bunch of us from
Tucson are driving up and stopping for a long while in Phoenix.  If any of
you DECUS/Dead Heads want to join us and need information on tickets, etc.,
please feel free to send some email.

jms

Joel M Snyder, 1103 E Spring Street, Tucson, AZ, 85719 
Phone: 602.882.4094 (voice) .4095 (FAX) .4093 (data)
BITNET: jms@Arizona  Internet: jms@arizona.edu  SPAN: 47541::telcom::jms
Yow!  It's a hole all the way to downtown Burbank!
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Looking for the airfare code
From: cooper@mdcbbs.com
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:42:04 GMT
Organization: M&E (Divison of EDS), Cypress CA
Nntp-Posting-User: cooper

Could someone provide me with the airfare code for the symposia in LV?

Thanks!

-=Jc=- 

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From: dcp79807@csie.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Format of Pixie
Organization: Computer Science & Information Engin., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:35:02 GMT



   	 I am using pixie with options of idtrace to generate the trace file.
But I find that no manual pages which describe the format of the generated file.
Is there someone in the net can tell me how to read the trace file?
Thanks in advance.

Best Regards

Miller Chih-Zong Lin
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Newsgroups: comp.org.decus,comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
From: klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler)
Subject: DEC OSF/1 AXP Focus Groups at Las Vegas DECUS Symposium
Organization: Hadron.com in exile
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:12:24 GMT


At the Las Vegas DECUS Symposium, we are going to run two focus groups
about migrating to DEC OSF/1 AXP.  They are different in that the
platform of origin is different.

The first focus group is to discuss migrating from Ultrix MIPs to DEC
OSF/1 AXP.  In this session we would like to discuss with
representative of no more than 10 current Ultrix customers their
perceptions and experiences of this migration. We would like to get a
sense of where in the ease-of-migration spectrum they believe their
applications fall, where they believe they may encounter problems, how
are they currently being assisted and informed of the migration, and
how we might improve our migration assistance.

The second focus group is to discuss migrating from VAX/VMS to DEC
OSF/1 AXP.  In this session we would like to discuss with
representatives of no more than 8 current VMS customers the issues
involved in changing from the VMS to OSF computing environment.  We
would like to hear where they believe the largest issues are for this
migration, which pieces of the VMS environment need to emulated - which
do not, what experiences have they had with third party environment
packages, for what tasks do they rely on clusters, what tools would
they want to use.

We intend to have a very interactive 2 hour session for each group led
by a set of questions we will provide.

If you are interested in participating in one of these focus groups
(and remember that attendance is limited), please get in touch with the
following individuals (I will be out of the country prior to the
symposium - Kurt):

	Paul Steeves at steeves@decvax.dec.com
	Sharon MacDonald at sharon@decvax.dec.com

Hope to see some of you in Las Vegas!

-- 
                Kurt Reisler (UNISIG Chair, DECUS US Chapter)
		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
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Newsgroups: comp.org.decus