From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: See, "pol*" is a compulsive liar: further expose'.
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:19:06 GMT
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In <9209142006@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:

+>In article <5110.3248.uupcb@factory.com> michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) writes:

+>>The genocide of the Armenian people is well documented, among other
+>>places, in Brittanica, old issues of the New York Times, US Congress

+>See, you are a compulsive liar. If you feel that you can simply act as 
+>an Armenian governmental crony in this forum you will be sadly mistaken 
+>and duly embarrassed. This is not a lecture to another historical revisionist 
+>and a genocide apologist, but a fact.

	Unlike you who acts like a "turkish government crony" correct.	

	There are questions that you will not dare to answer, such as what
you think the "rightful" boundaries of turkey should be and what lands
outside of turkey "rightfully" belong to it.


+>I will dissect article-by-article, paragraph-by-paragraph, line-by-line, 
+>lie-by-lie, revision-by-revision, written by those on this net, who plan 
+>to 'prove' that the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds is 
+>nothing less than a classic un-redressed genocide. 

	You have yet to "dissect" anything.  Your own sources have been
challeneged on numerous occasions and your only response has been to 
repost them over and over again.
	
	You the "brave" dissector of "articles" are so confident of your
material that you hide both your identity and your e-mail address.  Now
if you have the "truth" on your side, why are you "hiding"?




+>We are neither in 
+>x-Soviet Union, nor in some similar ultra-nationalist fascist dictatorship, 
+>that employs the dictates of Hitler to quell domestic unrest. 

	You mean like turkey right?

	Of course I understand totally that there there are no real 
"minorities" as such in turkey.  Turkish kurds are just confused "turks"
who need to be educated right?


+>Rachel A. Bortnick:

+>"A more appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the
+> systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of the 
+> independent republic of Armenia (which lasted from 1918 to 1921),
+> which consisted of at least 30-40 percent of the population of that
+> republic. The memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated 
+> in and eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in
+> 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound."

	here we have a thirdhand account of a book, "men are like that".
What is this supposed to prove.  That Rachel A. Bortnick has read it
is all that this seems to indicate. 

	


+>Source #1: McCarthy, J., "Muslims and Minorities, The Population of Ottoman 
+>           Anatolia and the End of the Empire," New York University Press, 
+>           New York, 1983, pp. 133-144.

	And please answer the question of how much money McCarthy has received
from the turkish government.


+>Source #2: Hovannisian, Richard G., "Armenia on the Road to Independence,
+>           1918. University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles),
+>           1967, p. 13.

+>Source: Bristol Papers, General Correspondence: Container #32 - Bristol
+>to Bradley Letter of September 14, 1920.

+>"I have it from absolute first-hand information that the Armenians in 
+> the Caucasus attacked Tartar (Turkish) villages that are utterly 
+> defenseless and bombarded these villages with artillery and they murder
+> the inhabitants, pillage the village and often burn the village."

	Thirdhand "firsthand" reports right?  What does this prove?
Who is the source?  Is it the turkish army again perhaps?