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From: genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: The Monthly Cecil Fielder Thread
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:13:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Industrial Engineering

Thus spake roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig):

>In article <1992Sep3.213256.13572@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> g_waugaman@nac.enet.dec.com (Glenn R. Waugaman) writes:

>OK.  Now, RBI power is basically SLG, so let's focus on that.  

>And < 2000 PA.  Now, SLG isn't a Bernouilli variable, so we can't 
>compute variance th usual way.  I'd say the variance is *bigger* than 
>with a binary var. (right, Dr. Dave?), 

Right.  Considerably larger, in fact.  If we let p1 denote the probability of
a single on a given plate appearance, p2 a double, p3 a triple, and p4 a HR,
then (assuming all PAs independent) we get that the variance of SLG over n
PAs is

	p1 + 4p2 + 9p3 + 16p4 - (TSLG)^2
	--------------------------------
		       n  

where "TSLG" denotes the "true slugging percentage" implied by the various
p1, p2, etc. values.  For a Fielderesque hitter this gives a value somewhere
in the neighborhood of 1.27/n, or five times as large as the variance of 
batting average.  That's a standard deviation over 2000 PAs of about 25 points
of slugging.

>Meaning the difference isn't significant by a long shot if we do a 
>two-sample T-test.

Right.  Especially since, as with Pat Tabler, we're looking at Cecil precisely
because he is an extreme value in a larger population...

-- 
      David M. Tate      | From my dugout sleep I fell into the Game
 dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu | And I crouched in the circle while my insides froze
 Randall 'Chico' Jarrell | One out from death, one hit from dreamt-of glory
"Death of a Pinch Hitter"| I woke to 'Strike One!' and the nightmare sliders...
Xref: sparky rec.sport.baseball:25982 rec.sport.basketball.pro:16466
From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Quote
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:03:16 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Aug30.005019.8436@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bv789@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jane K. F. Evslin) writes:
>What is the quote about great plays and South Pacific?
>And who said it?

I believe the quote is something like:
  "There are only two good plays.  Putting the ball in the basket and South
Pacific.", meaning of course that if you don't score, you don't win, a fact
that seems to escape certain Big East coaches.  It also was a put-down of
fancy sets and offenses.  The originator of the quote is something I'm not sure
about, but Henry Iba springs to mind for some reason.

--Rob Clough
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From: dmeister@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Darren Meister)
Subject: Re: DAVID CONE TO BLUE JAYS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:04:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.172239.27782@julian.uwo.ca> heartlab@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Heartlab People) writes:
>>They'll send Sprague as soon as they get arrangements for a back-up
>>catcher.
>
>The Jays already have a back-up catcher up in the majors. They have of
>course Pat Borders and Eddy Sprague, but they also have Randy Knorr. In
>fact, he (Knorr) has been playing just as much as Sprague has in the
>past few weeks. So, if the Jays do in fact ship Sprague of to the Mets
>with Jeff Kent, their lack of players in the catching position is
>already solved.
>

Randy Knorr was injured last week. Not sure how severely but I sort of 
remember hearing out for the season. This would make the PTBNL thing make even 
more sense.
-- 
Darren Meister                                  dmeister@watserv1.waterloo.edu
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From: yajima@nttcom.ntt.jp (YAJIMA Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.culture.japan,fj.rec.baseball
Subject: Japan Central League
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:32:01 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: NTT Network Information Systems Labs. Musashino, Tokyo

Japan Central League Standing (Through games on Wednesday September 2)

                          W   L   T   Pct.   GB
Yakult Swallows          57  45   0  .559    --
Yomiuri Giants           58  51   0  .532    2.5
Hanshin Tigers           56  50   1  .528    3.0
Hiroshima Carp           53  51   0  .510    5.0
Taiyo Whales             49  58   1  .458   10.5
Chunichi Dragons         44  62   0  .415   15.0

----------

  To my great regret, Yakult Swallows lost the game to hateful Yomiuri Giants
by a score of 9 to 2 at Tokyo's Jingu Stadium Wednesday night. (Sep 2nd)
 With Yomiuri ahead 2-1 in the fifth inning, Norihiro Komada homered for two 
runs in the fifth inning. Lloyd Moseby went 5-for-5 to drive in two runs with
a two-run homer, his 19th shot of the season, in the sixth inning.
 I was so vexed that I could not get to sleep for a long while last night.
My nerves are on edge from curtailed sleep.

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From: msl@hpcvlx (Mark Laventhal )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Andres through August (Eat my dust, Ken Hill)
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:03:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Sep2.170330.25394
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
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Harold_Brooks (hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>		... 
> On the last night of August, Andres had one of his best games
> of the season, going 3 for 4 with a 2B and an HR.  As a result,
> for the first time since he went on the disabled list the 
> second day of the season, Andres is now ahead of Ken Hill in
> BA, SLG, and OBA at the same time!  My Pal Dal must be beaming
> this morning.
> 

Not to mention the fact that he also recently got his second 
Sacrifice Fly of the week (and of the last 2 seasons), to provide
the game-winning run in a 1-0 Cardinals win.

Mark Laventhal
msl@cv.hp.com
From: sauder@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (EY Sauder clyde jeffr (410) 290-6000)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: AL MVP Trivia Question
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:58:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: aplcen.1992Sep4.205839.19178
Distribution: na
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

The following question was the regular trivia question posted
on the scoreboard at Camden Yards on August 20:

Q.  Who was the last American League switch hitter to win the
    Most Valuable Player Award? (in the American League, of course)


I won't bother posting an answer because I'm sure a million other
people will post it for me.  Enjoy!

Jeff Sauder    sauder@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu
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From: sinhaa@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Anand Sinha)
Subject: Re: Ugliest Man in Baseball??
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:09:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.031541.4613@honte.uleth.ca> savoy@hg.uleth.ca writes:
>
>>> ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>
>>>     Willie McGee is pretty ugly (a perfect oxymoron, no?)...
>
>A cruel and unrelated-to-baseball-skills thread, but...
>
>I'll put my money on either Drew Hall or Ron Karkovice.


Another one of those topics that keep re-appearing :-)

Kurt, maybe you should add this to the r.s.bb FAQ ? :-)

For my money:

Willie McGee
Zane Smith (Darryl from Newhart)
John Kruk
Bill "Souvenir" Sampen (NO LONGER ON THE EXPOS !!! HURRAY!!!)

Anand Sinha		sinhaa@mcmaster.ca
Blue Jays #1 -> all the way in '92
Roberto Alomar for MVP
..just for Valentine...Jack Morris for Cy Young ... NOT!!!!!
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From: rstimets@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (robert and stimets)
Subject: Mets rotation
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:48:07 GMT

So who's pitching now in the weekend series against Cincinnati?  Cone
was scheduled for the first game on Friday...

RStimets
From: jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: MLB Magic Numbers for Fri, Sep 4th, 1992
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:31:31 GMT
Organization: Joseph TeleCommunications Enterprises; Berkeley, California, USA
Via: JTC Enterprises Major League Baseball Department (Statistics Division)
     JTC Enterprises Sports Sector (Information Department)


     MAGIC NUMBERS OF DIVISION LEADERS FOR FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 04, 1992

          [NOTE: Includes all of yesterday's games; i-idle yesterday
                   z-won yesterday or split a doubleheader.]

NATIONAL WEST		 MN	        	NATIONAL EAST		 MN
Atlanta	Braves		 --		        Pittsburgh Pirates	z--
Cincinnati Reds		z24		        Montreal Expos		z27
San Diego Padres	i23		        Chicago Cubs		i22
Houston Astros          i15		        St. Louis Cardinals     i20
San Francisco Giants     11		        New York Mets            15
Los Angeles Dodgers	i 6		        Philadelphia Phillies	i 8

AMERICAN WEST		 MN 		        AMERICAN EAST		 MN
Oakland Athletics	i--		        Toronto Blue Jays	i--
Minnesota Twins         i25		        Baltimore Orioles	i29
Chicago White Sox       z22		        Milwaukee Brewers	i25
Texas Rangers		i14		        Detroit Tigers          i16
California Angels       i11		        Boston Red Sox          i15
Kansas City Royals       11		        New York Yankees        i15
Seattle Mariners	i 6		        Cleveland Indians       i14
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From: epstein@sparc9.cs.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein)
Subject: Re: Wrigley wind or not: that is the question
Keywords: Wind blowing out of Wrigley
Reply-To: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:30:14 GMT

In <1992Aug26.174911.11589@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:

>In <26AUG199202271491@mitme5.mit.edu> kettler@mitme5.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.) writes:
>
>>I have a question. Since I personally find it hard to believe that the Cubs 
>>have the best staff in the NL, has anyone checked how often the wind has been 
>>blowingout of Wrigley this year. I know that in Boston the weather has been 
>>cooler than normal this year, and I would like to know if this is also true in 
>>the Midwest. I do remember that cooler weather meant that it was less likely 
>>that the wind would blow out of Wrigley, and if this is true, this could be why 
>>the Cubs have a lower ERA than I would have suspected from their staff and 
>>their team has hit somewhat worse than I would have believed.
>
>Well, first off, when Stats, Inc. analyzed the effect of wind at Wrigley
>Field last year, they found that:
>
>1) When the wind blows in, Wrigley is a neutral park.
>2) When the wind blows sideways (most of the time), Wrigley is an excellent
>hitters' park.
>3) When the wind blows out, Wrigley has 15-12 games.

Uh, to be a little picky, what's the difference between 2 and 3?  (Is
15-12 not indicative of good conditions for the hitters?)

-- 
Milt Epstein
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
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From: kumarv@cricket.asd.sgi.com (Kumar Venkat)
Subject: Re: Cricket Phrases
Reply-To: kumarv@cricket.asd.sgi.com (Kumar Venkat)
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:25:06 GMT


How about being "stumped" by a problem ?

I have always found it interesting that Americans
regularly use a number of phrases originating from 
cricket, such as "being stumped", "being on a sticky
wicket", etc. without really being aware of it.

-Kumar
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From: cnar08@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re:Accusations of Cheating
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:49:51 GMT

Here are a few paragraphs from an article in The Daily Telegraph 27 Aug 92
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

The "ball doctoring" allegations against Pakistan have been
widely disapproved by former test players.They roundly 
condemn the charges as SOUR GRAPES.

Denis Compton: Its left a nasty taste in the mouth when we should
accept that Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram are exceptional bowlers who have
found a way of making the ball swing...

John Lever: Wasim and Waqar are two of the best bowlers in the world for
a long time and it seems a shame that people are looking for excuses for
their defeat.It is being blown out of all proportions.

Godfrey Evans: ..... It is simply a case that the Pakistanis bowled
better than us,whether the ball was doctored or not.



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From: csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~)
Subject: Re: World's worst fielder
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:49:36 GMT

In article <dos105-010992074200@150.203.49.43> dos105@rsphy2.anu.edu.au (Darren O'Shaughnessy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.165022.4209@athena.mit.edu>, nalin@athena.mit.edu
>(Palitha Nalin Wikramanayake) wrote:
>>
>> 	I always thought David Boon (of the early eighties) was a particularly
>> 	bad fielder. Note: This opinion is based mostly on his performances
>> 	in the one-day triangulars  Aus-Nz-Sl and Aus-WI-? in the early '80s.
>> 	Has he improved since then?
>>
>> 	Nalin
>>
>> 	PS I can't remember (really!) any bad SL fielders though I am sure
>> 	there were many.
>>
>
>  Is this the same David Boon who covered for Ian Healy's injury during the
>World Cup, and performed admirably behind the stumps? Boony may look a bit
>tubby, but as well as being one of the fastest Australians between the
>wickets when quick singles are needed, he's the regular reflex catcher at
>silly mid-on.
>  A couple of years ago the obvious vote would have been for Phil Tufnell,
>the butt of many a joke on the Ashes tour, but I see he's been practising.
>Navjot Sidhu strikes me as being lazy in the field, but I'll agree with the
>above that the majority of the Sri Lankans do need to work on their
>fielding.

As do the Pakistanis. If it hadn't been for some very poor fielding, and
catching in particular, England would have taken a much worse beating.
Exception must be made, though: Rashid Latif fielded very well throughout his
stints as super-sub...

The Wisp.
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From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: First Test - Score card - Australia v/s Sri Lanka
Reply-To: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:22:54 GMT

In article <0095F9E4.41B490A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>			Australia vs. Sri Lanka.
>			      First Test.
>AUSTRALIA. Second innings.
>T. Moody                           b. Ramanayake             13
>M. Taylor      c. Gurusinha        b. Anurasiri              43
>D. Boon        c. Ranatunga        b. Anurasiri              68
>D. Jones                           Run Out                   57
>M. Waugh       c. Kaluwitharane    b. Wickremasinghe         56
>A. Border      c. Gurusinha        b. Anurasiri              15
>G. Matthews    c. Kaluwitharane    b. Ramanayake             64
>I. Healy                         lbw. Hathurusinghe          12
>C. McDermott                     lbw. Ramanayake             40
>S. Warne                           b. Anurasiri              35
>M. Whitney                         Not Out                   10
>Extras (1 w, 34 nb, 23 lb)                                   58
>                                                           ----
>Total                                                       471

moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal) writes:
>Has anyone noticed that all eleven players in the Australian second
>innings reached double figures?

What struck me was that 471 runs were scored with no one making a
century.  Anyone know whats the highest team score when no batsman has
reached the century mark?

Bharat
From: moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: A MILLION runs in tests (Was: Miandad,Border,Gower,etc...)
Date: 28 Aug 1992 00:17:41 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <l9rjsrINN5n6@skat.usc.edu> fazam@skat.usc.edu (Farooq-e-Azam) writes:
>Can somebody post the latest ranking of the playing batsmen nearing 10,0000
>runs mark?

Well, you might want to wait about a century before a player can actually
approach such a figure. I mean, come to think of it, it requires one hell
of a commitment and dedication (not to mention longevity and some relatives
amongst selectors!) for a player to actually think about it.

The world record in FIRST CLASS cricket is not much over 60,000, by Jack
Hobbs, who took a good thirty years for that tally. And he must have played
almost a thousand games.

I hope that satisfies your curiosity. 

In case you wanted to find out about the players approaching TEN THOUSAND
runs, and the extra zero above was merely a typo, well, what can I say! I
am speechless!

>
>Farooq

Nadeem Moghal
USC


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From: mamohamm@vela.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL)
Subject: SL too Defensive
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:57:46 GMT


	Sri Lanka is not entirely to blame for not chasing the 
	target. Austrailia's decleration was a tee bit too late.
	A decleration around 30 minutes before lunch would have
	made the match very interesting.
	But then again, why take risk when ahead 1-0.


regards
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From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: Re: Borders reaction and some questions
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 03:06:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.142718.21056@athena.mit.edu>, nalin@athena.mit.edu (Palitha Nalin Wikramanayake) writes:
|> 
|> 	Here is a news article from SLNET about the Test. 
|> 
|> 	I have a few questions for Aussie rsc people
|> 
|> 	1) Did the Aus media carry anything about bad umpiring?
|> 
	No.
	The Aussie Media in fact carried very little about anything,
	although channel 9 did telecast the One Day Series,
	(eng v pakistan would you believe, live)

	tom

	who did watch some of the Texaco matches live, and none of the test
From: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Aus V SL
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:25:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20078
Reply-To: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU

In article <1992Sep2.074929.4420@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Smith) writes:
<Aus expected to declare at lunch(now) 6/296
     Australia did declare at that score setting SL to score 286 in two
sessions.

<Jones 100no
<Moody 54
<Matthews 51
<Border 28
<
<Setting Sri Lanka 285 in 2 sessions, could be an interesting finish again.
<
     However SL could score only 130 and odd runs and Australia could get only
two wickets. The game finished 8 overs before the scheduled 62 overs as both
the captains decided that it would end in a draw. SL have to beef up their
fielding if they are not to extract a draw and a defeat from the jaws of
victory.

<+-----------------------------------+
<|  Mark Smith.                       |
<|  <s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au< |
<|  Morwell, Victoria, Australia.     |
<|  Monash Uni Gippsland Computing    |
<+------------------------------------+

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Department of Electrical Engineering
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From: asrini@sanjuan (Anand Srinivasan)
Subject: Re: Accusations of Cheating
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 16:39:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.091803@axion.bt.co.uk> dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove) writes:
>
>
>I caught a glimpse of the news this morning in which it would appear that
>Alan Lamb accused the Pakistan bowlers of picking the seam etc.
> 
[...other queries deleted...]
>
>Dave Grove.
>
>==========================================================================

It might be better for Lamb to go to nets and practice against genuine
fast bowling than to find lame excuses for his and his team-mates pitiful
performance.  

Given the news that the seam were picked, How many of you think that
Lamb et.al., would have been successful if it had been otherwise?  Let
us face it, except for a handful (Gooch, Gower, stewart and Smith) none
of the others were competant enuff to face genuine fast bowling.  A golden
example was Greame Hick...

A Srini



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From: Sankaran.Venkatesh@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Inzamam and run outs
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:12:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.170424.19200@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bholu@nyx.cs.du.edu (  Bholu) writes:
> 
> Inzimam definitely needs to be educated on how to run b/w the wkts ;).
> In the last one day he turned around and was watching Alec Stewart gather
> the ball while Aamir Sohail was going for then. He remained glued in that
> position until Aamir almost reached his (Inzimam's) crease. On the
> previous occasion when he was run out he kept looking over his shoulder at
> the fielder while running towards the other end and was almost standing
> still when the ball hit the stumps. He is not very quick but the run outs
> have more to do with bad running rather than lack of fleet-footedness.
> 

I remember the first major turnaround of the WC'92 when Pakistan were
playing the Kiwis in Semis; Wasn't he run-out then after that scintillating
63? Speaking of run-outs, I think no-one can beat Sanjay Manjrekar's
record. Whether it is tests or One-day, this fella hasn't got it right yet.
In fact at certain times it was quite frustrating for Azzu because the only
two reliable at bats in the recent Aus/WC tour were himself and SRT. There
have been several occasions where Azzu has been run-out by this Sanjay; And
we all know how good a runner/fielder Mohd. is (aka Dean Jones, if I may
compare; Yeah I remember the innings of 93 vs Australia where he was
run-out but that was only due to AB's brilliant left-handed effort. Gosh I
dream what the tournament would have turned into, had India won that match
( Moreover the Score-board would have read AUSTRALIA Played 4 Lost 4).

So much for now.

Venkatesh Sankaran
Wellington, Newzealand

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