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From: Earl W Phillips <ephillip@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: cp/m - dos conversion
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:33:53 GMT

For quite a while, I have struggled with the problem of converting
all my old CP/M stuff to my dos computer, as many of you have (evident
by the number of messages on the subject!). I have finally succeeded.
While there are many programs out there that simulate the cp/m-os
on dos, they either lacked the ability to directly read/write a
cp/m formatted disk, or you were forced to use the old modem
technique to get the files into your dos. No More! I have discovered
a company called "Intersecting Concepts", @ 30851 Agoura Rd,
Suite 200, Agoura Hills, Ca 91301 ph:818-879-0086. They have
produced a product called "Media Master" which runs flawlessly
on my IBM-PC AT 286 w/dos v.5 that logs in my a:floppy drive
as a Morrow MD-2 (SSDD) (which was one of my old cp/m machines).
It will also log in many other 5-1/4" cp/m disk formats, up to
I think close to 70 of 'em! You can then directly read/write the
cp/m floppy disk, copying all of the files if you wish onto your
dos machine's harddrive. Then, Media Master has a cp/m-os emulator,
called "ZP/EM" which runs the cp/m software! Of course, the program
"myz80" does this well too, but Media Master is one program that
does everything in one package, negating the need to run 2 or
more pieces of software just to run cp/m on dos. BTW, all of the
standard disclaimers apply re:my working for them or getting
financial consideration from the (I don't!). I just finally found
something that works after more than 2 years of searching. Man,
it's just like sitting at the console of my old Morrow! Absolutely
seamless, I tell ya! Hope this helps all of you looking for a
solution. BTW, the price? Just about $70 bucks, ups'ed to your
door!

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From: "richard wyble" <richard.wyble@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: apple lisa....
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:11:46 EST
Reply-To: "richard wyble" <richard.wyble@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

 >-    I'm looking for any information which may be available for the
 >-or rather about the Apple Lisa, not to mention what kind of machine
 >-it is.....

The Apple Lisa was, simplistically, a product ahead of its time. One might 
say that it was the first Macintosh. In fact, a number of them were sold in 
the late 1980's as a cheap machine which would run Mac software.

I suggest that you seek a Macintosh forum in which to ask further questions.

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From: news@equinox.unr.edu (USENET News Administration)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Looking for kermit for a cpm
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:41:56 GMT
Reply-To: tamela@pyramid.unr.edu (Tamela R. Germano)
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

Osborne, Xerox, and IBM CPM formats.  Failing kermit, are there any other
telecommunications programs available out there?
From: tamela@pyramid.unr.edu (Tamela R. Germano)
thanks, 
			Tamela Germano
From: garth@pinetree.org (garth jones)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: small c problem
Keywords: Fido Cpm
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:18:06 EDT
Organization: Gordon's Pinetree * Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

> certainly the place to advirtise for them.  Another source of
> information, or so I'm told, is the CP/M echo of FidoNet which is
> reportedly a good deal more active than this one.

The Fido Cpm echo has about 15- 20 messages a day
 Do anyone know where a list of Cp/m os disk are?



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Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: jle9162@zeus.tamu.edu (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: msdos to cpm
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:49:00 GMT

Anyone out there know of program that runs under msdos that will write cpm 
disks? (on trs-80 model 4).

thanks, jason.   jle9162@venus.tamu.edu
From: 9113797@ul.ie
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:17:58 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland


Does anyone have a List
of the UNdocumented op-codes
For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor

If so would you send me a copy


Garret Flynn,
Information Technology,
University of Limerick,
Ireland,

E-mail 9113797@ul.ie
From: ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:30:10 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov4.224605.4967@midway.uchicago.edu>, silveanu@uhuru.uchicago.edu (Adrian Silveanu) writes:
> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?

I think NEC built one. And then there's the MSX crowd in Japan (although
a Japanese foreign-exchange student just laughed when I mentioned MSX). I've
also seen a color Sony machine.

> Is the the CP/M Market dead? 

If, by dead, you mean not covered by the mainstream press, yes. If, by dead,
you mean that nothing is available, no. If, by dead, you mean no one is doing
anything with it, no.
> 
> P.P.S. Oh yes! One more thing. Is it possible to network my CP/M Computer
> 	to my IBM? Through the serial port?

Speaking of which, does anyone have manuals for CP/NET? I'm interested
in the System Alteration Guide.
-- 

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                                 into mutants!"
From: PHR00JG@TECHNION.BITNET ("Jacques J. Goldberg")
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: MIX C
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:01:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 17:20:58 IST

MIX-C was manufactured and sold by MIX Software, Richardson, Texas,
1-800-333-0330, for about 20$, with a 300 hundred pages documentation
included. Yes I am definitely talking about MIX-C for CP/M-80. No I am not
talking about Power-C for MESSDOSS which they continuously advertise (Ok, I
own, use and warmly praise both).
I will be glad to sell my CP/M-80 copy for 100$ or  more if and only if:
a) MIX C stills sells it and for 20$.
b) MIX C explicitly agrees with that deal.
In spite of the induced headache, I would certainly do that for any colleague
in search of a copy about as old as her/his computer .... ,-}

If and only if MIX Software or their legal representatives issue a clear and
unambiguous statement of complete loss of interest, I will gladly upload
my copy for public usage. The documentation will remain a problem.

Jacques Goldberg - phr00jg@technion.technion.ac.il  , two ZEROES in phr00jg
From: ear@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Mr. Neat-O [tm])
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: Looking for kermit for a cpm
Date: 5 Nov 1992 23:24:39 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <4765@equinox.unr.edu> tamela@pyramid.unr.edu (Tamela R. Germano) writes:
>Osborne, Xerox, and IBM CPM formats.  Failing kermit, are there any other
>telecommunications programs available out there?

I don't specifically know what versions are available, but try
watsun.cc.columbia.edu (128.59.39.1) for anonymous FTP.  It is the official
distribution site for kermit, and it has versions for just about every
computer that ever existed. 

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From: garth@pinetree.org (garth jones)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Altos 580
Keywords: Cpm os
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 14:30:13 EDT
Organization: Gordon's Pinetree * Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

I am look for an Os for an Altos 580, Like Cp/M 2.2, Cp/M 3.0, Mp/M, or 
any other that will run Altos 580.
        Garth

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Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: mneufeld@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael John Neufeld)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:46:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.093010.60418@cc.usu.edu> ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.224605.4967@midway.uchicago.edu>, silveanu@uhuru.uchicago.edu (Adrian Silveanu) writes:
>> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?
>
>I think NEC built one. And then there's the MSX crowd in Japan (although
>a Japanese foreign-exchange student just laughed when I mentioned MSX). I've
>also seen a color Sony machine.

I remember seeing ads for graphics boards running on the S-100 bus, and
thus usable by a Z-80 board on the bus running CP/M.  The only company
name I can think of right now is Cromeco.  Ahhh!  Back in the good old
days - when power supplies doubled as arc welders, and portable meant
that you could transport the computer without having to use a truck. (-: 

-Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
From: tomg@code3 (Tom Green)
Subject: Hardware flow control
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:40:15 GMT

We are trying to get hardware flow control going on an AOS/VS II system and
are having some trouble.  We set the HIFC and HOFC characteristics on the
con we are using, but it doesn't seem to be using regular rtc/cts signalling.
We are trying to talk to a SCO unix box.  Anyone have any suggestions which
pins are really being used, or if we are off base totally in the first place?

Thanks.


Tom Green
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Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
From: dbourniq@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Bournique)
Subject: Re: Anybody using aos/vs left here ???
Keywords: AOS
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 03:01:52 GMT

In <jstark.720981580@mcshh.hanse.de> jstark@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Jens Stark) writes:

>Is there anybody with internet connection using aos/vs ?
>I would like to get into contact with some more users...
>   Jens Stark

My employer is running 5 MV4000's under AOS/VS (classic.)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
From: phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Hardware flow control
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:08:41 GMT

In article <BxBGB4.84w@hsi.com>, tomg@code3 (Tom Green) writes: 
> We are trying to get hardware flow control going on an AOS/VS II system and 
> are having some trouble.  We set the HIFC and HOFC characteristics on the 
> con we are using, but it doesn't seem to be using regular rtc/cts signalling.
> We are trying to talk to a SCO unix box.  Anyone have any suggestions which 
> pins are really being used, or if we are off base totally in the first place? 

Sorry, I couldn't reply by email. 

Possibly pin 20* (and 6&8) are changing (in some ways this is closer to what
the original RS232 standard expected). But the best idea is to put a break-out
box with LED indicators between the two. Watch not only to see what handshaking
signals change, but whether something is sending an extra byte (XOFF). Is the
problem that the AOS system gets overloaded with input, or the SCO? - Or some
other problem? I had a printer on a DG box which kept getting too many
characters for its input buffer - the problem turned out to be the output
stopped from the DG a few characters after the printer said "please stop". The
moral of the story is that many, many things can be wrong with serial
communications. Expect a re-write of Murphy's Law real soon now, concentrating
on RS232!

* pin numbers refer to a DB25, not what comes out of the side of the mux.

Mark Aitchison, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.
(It's a while since I used AOS/VS - I upgraded to RDOS years ago :-).
From: syverson@carson.u.washington.edu (David Syverson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
Subject: Re: Anybody using aos/vs left here ???
Keywords: AOS
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:04:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov6.030445.1881
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

We do have a few MRI MV7800's still running aos/vs.  Everything else has 
been upgraded to aos/vs ii years ago.
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
From: Nobody@nowhere.com (Nobody Important)
Subject: Re: DG Hardware for sale
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:34:00 GMT

 
A friend of mine mentioned that they were trying to get rid of their
MV/4000.  It is complete with IAC boards, hard drives, terminals,
etc.  I am under the impression that they would almost consider
giving it away if it didn't cost them anything to ship it.
 
Call Dave Wimberly at (318) 948-6561 for more information.   (MIS Department)
Lou Ana Foods, Inc.
Opelousas, LA
 
Please do not reply to this account.  I prefer to remain anonymous.
From: hdavies@rx.xerox.com (Hugh J.E. Davies)
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
Subject: Re: Hardware flow control
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:36:24 GMT
Reply-To: hdavies@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.

In article 1doik3INNc6m@transfer.stratus.com, malits@sw.stratus.com (George Malits) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.114616.18566@spectrum.xerox.com>, hdavies@rx.xerox.com 
>(Hugh J.E. Davies) writes:
>> Some IACs don't support hardware flow control (IAC8?) ......
>> ---
>
>
>It's been a while but I think Hugh has it backwards.  The IAC-8's are the ones
>with "full modem" support and thus do handle DSR/DTR.  I think some of the larger
>IAC's (16's and 24's) are "null modem" and thus don't support hardware flow
>control.


I'm quite happy to be corrected! I'm in the fortunate position of not being responsible for supporting our DG any more!!!
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From: hdavies@rx.xerox.com (Hugh J.E. Davies)
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
Subject: Re: Anybody using aos/vs left here ???
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:50:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: spectrum.1992Nov6.085043.7279
Reply-To: hdavies@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.

In article 720981580@mcshh.hanse.de, jstark@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Jens Stark) writes:
>Is there anybody with internet connection using aos/vs ?
>I would like to get into contact with some more users...
>   Jens Stark


Do you mean AOS as opposed to AOS II, or just anyone running AOS in a general sense? We're running AOS/VS II on an MV30000.
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From: hdavies@rx.xerox.com (Hugh J.E. Davies)
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
Subject: Re: Hardware flow control
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:46:16 GMT
Reply-To: hdavies@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.

Some IACs don't support hardware flow control (IAC8?) so you can set characetristsicsa until you're blue in the face and it makes no difference whatsoever.
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From: mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere)
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
Subject: Re: Hardware flow control
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:45:33 GMT
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Tom Green (tomg@code3) wrote:
: We are trying to get hardware flow control going on an AOS/VS II system and
: are having some trouble.  We set the HIFC and HOFC characteristics on the
: con we are using, but it doesn't seem to be using regular rtc/cts signalling.
: We are trying to talk to a SCO unix box.  Anyone have any suggestions which
: pins are really being used, or if we are off base totally in the first place?
: 
: Thanks.

My experience is 6 years out of date, but as I recall the IACs really badly
wanted ALL the hardware protocols implented.  If your cables are not using
pins 1 through 8 and 20, you'll probably have trouble.

Are you running custom programs setting the values at run-time?  If not,
are you setting the DEFAULT characteristics from the console?  I don't
remember the details, just that there is a difference between setting the
char's for the current session, vs. as default...
From: malits@sw.stratus.com (George Malits)
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
Subject: Re: Hardware flow control
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:57:07 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoop.sw.stratus.com

In article <1992Nov9.114616.18566@spectrum.xerox.com>, hdavies@rx.xerox.com 
(Hugh J.E. Davies) writes:
> Some IACs don't support hardware flow control (IAC8?) ......
> ---


It's been a while but I think Hugh has it backwards.  The IAC-8's are the ones
with "full modem" support and thus do handle DSR/DTR.  I think some of the larger
IAC's (16's and 24's) are "null modem" and thus don't support hardware flow
control.
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
From: jstark@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Jens Stark)
Subject: Re: Hardware flow control
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:32:30 GMT

mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere) writes:

>Tom Green (tomg@code3) wrote:
>: We are trying to get hardware flow control going on an AOS/VS II system and
>: are having some trouble.  We set the HIFC and HOFC characteristics on the
>: con we are using, but it doesn't seem to be using regular rtc/cts signalling.
>: We are trying to talk to a SCO unix box.  Anyone have any suggestions which
>: pins are really being used, or if we are off base totally in the first place?
>: 
>: Thanks.

>My experience is 6 years out of date, but as I recall the IACs really badly
>wanted ALL the hardware protocols implented.  If your cables are not using
>pins 1 through 8 and 20, you'll probably have trouble.

>Are you running custom programs setting the values at run-time?  If not,
>are you setting the DEFAULT characteristics from the console?  I don't
>remember the details, just that there is a difference between setting the
[...]

Well it need not be the console...
Having the System Manager priv, you can set default CHARs from any
Terminal. ( Dont forget do dis/enable the console you set the characteris-
tics of... )
Turning on the SysMgr attribute :
:CLI32    PRIV SYS ON
:CLI16    JPI something
          ( Ignore the error message. the "something" should be written
            as <something>, which is anything except a valid JP-id.
            Feel free to put four letter words there... )
  Jens

v
>char's for the current session, vs. as default...
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
From: eas@planets.risc.rockwell.com (Emilio A. Sovero)
Subject: Re: Anybody using aos/vs left here ???
Organization: Rockwell International Science Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:44:47 GMT

We use an MV4000 as a data acquisition computer AOS/VS
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From: ezr@md-oss.dk (Ejnar Zacho Rath)
Newsgroups: comp.os.aos
Subject: Re: Anybody using aos/vs left here ???
Keywords: AOS
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:20:20 GMT
Organization: Maersk Data AS, Postbox 176, DK-5100 Odense C, Denmark

In <jstark.720981580@mcshh.hanse.de> jstark@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Jens Stark) writes:

>Is there anybody with internet connection using aos/vs ?
>I would like to get into contact with some more users...
>   Jens Stark

We are running AS/VS II on a MV30000-HA2 and two MV40000-HA2's.

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From: philk@fox.cis.ohio-state.edu (Phillip E Krueger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.research
Subject: Re: Difference between DYNAMIC and ADAPTIVE load balancing???
Date: 5 Nov 1992 05:12:08 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.cse.ucsc.edu
Originator: osr@ftp

In article <1d9guvINN6rp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Amin writes:
>
>Hi there.  Subject says it all.  I have seen many papers about dynamic and
>adaptive load balancing, but I couldn't understand the difference.
>Are these really two different categories in load balancing, or are these
>two words used interchangeably in the literature.  Please post your
>response, so that other people can post their views about the responses.
>
>Thanks.
>Amin

The difference between static and dynamic (I'll get to adaptive in a second)
load distributing (or global scheduling) algorithms is the use of system
state information.  While static algorithms make no use of such information,
dynamic algorithms use such information to improve individual job transfer
decisions.

Adaptive algorithms constitute a subset of dynamic algorithms.  Adaptive
algorithms go further in their use of system state information:  Such
information may be used to modify the parameters of the algorithm, or even to
choose which load distributing strategy is used.  For example, you might find
that load distributing algorithm A is best under system conditions X, while
algorithm B is better under conditions Y.  An adaptive algorithm might choose
which strategy to pursue based on whether the conditions it observes are closer
to X or Y.  As a more detailed example, sender-initiated algorithms tend to
perform better than receiver-initiated algorithms when the overall system load
is low, though receiver-initiated algorithm performs better when the system
load is high (sender-initiated algorithms are disastrous at high loads).  An
adaptive algorithm might choose to follow a sender-initiated strategy when the
load is low, but switch to a receiver-initiated strategy if the load becomes
high.

Examples of adaptive algorithms can be found in:
N. G. Shivaratri and P. Krueger, "Two Adaptive Location Policies for Global
Scheduling Algorithms," Proc. 10th International Conference on Distributed
Computing Systems, pp. 502-509 (May 1990).

  -- Phil Krueger
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