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From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: best S-VHS camcorder ???
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:43:58 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.video, GNICK@RCHVMP3.VNET.IBM.COM writes:
>What's the best all-around "deal" for a S-VHS fullsize camcorder under $2000 ?
>("deal" is defined here as the best combination of (1) technology, (2) price,
>and (3) availability, IN THAT ORDER.)
>

There is no good SVHS camcorder now being offered, unless you are ready
to get into a large professional dockable unit or the upcoming JVC X2
integrated professional unit.  There are several consumer-level models
from Panasonic and Hitachi.  Panasonic is bringing out the AG-455, an
update to the date AG-450 design.  In my opinion the AG-455 has more
bells and whistles, but the specs are not very impressive.

For that reason, there had been a surge of interest in hi8, even among
event producers.  The value-priced offerings in SVHS just aren't there.
   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Akira Mito)
Subject: Re: Any info on the new Sony 3 CCD camcorder?
Organization: Department of Environmental Information,Keio University Shonan
	Fujisawa Campus(SFC),Japan.
	<T90534AM.92Dec25161153@cs1.sfc.keio.ac.jp>
	<1992Dec28.001748.4772@spcvxb.spc.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 05:23:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.001748.4772@spcvxb.spc.edu>
killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen) writes:

 |Does the CCD-VX1 record Sony RC date code and frame code?

 Yes. But it doesn't go with professional time code.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Akira Mito(E-Mail:t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp)
  Junior@SFC(Keio Univ. Shownan Fujisawa Campus) 
  Department: Environmental Information (It's so COOL,isn't it?)
  Director of the SFC Hi-Vision Club, and member of SFC TiME, C-music.
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: transferring film to video
Date: 24 Dec 92 04:26:08 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Dec23.222509.20684@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> smjeff@lerc05.lerc.nasa.gov (Jeff Miller) writes:
<I am interested in transferring several old home movies from film reels
<onto videotape.  Are there any "preferred" methods of doing this?  The 2
<ways I can think of to do this are :
<1) Project the movie onto a screen and tape it with a video camera.  

Can you say flicker.

<2) Transfer the movie frame by frame with a video camera capable of taking
<single frames.  Since the film was shot at 24 fps and the video uses 60 fps
<I would need to take 2 video frames of the first film frame and then 3 video
<frames of the next film frame, and then 2,3,2,3,etc.

There are two things wrong with this statement: 1) home 8mm movies are 18 fps.
Even home 16mm is 18 fps.  2) the transfer method mentioned should be video
fields, not frames.  It takes professional equipment to transfer/edit on field
boundaries.

Even if you had home movies on 16mm at 24 fps, you still couldn't transfer
using the 3-2 pulldown, since you can't edit fields.

<Are there any better ways of doing this?  Thanks.

Ya, have it done professionally with equipment that will transfer the film
correctly.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: lchoqu%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Lee Choquette)
Subject: Re: Re: Photo CD
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:17:30 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Dec30.150715.28668@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
writes:
 > The bandwidth and transfer rate aren't there yet.  As has been said many
 > times, resolution isn't the only measure of picture quality.  With a digital
 > medium, you get discrete pixels in two directions, where with the current
 > analog media you only have discrete features in one dimension.  While
 > "resolution" might be higher with a digital medium, the overall perceived
 > quality might be lower if the horizontal pixel boundaries are visible.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the purpose of a reconstruction filter,
to even out the pixel-to-pixel transitions?  With an "ideal" filter, a digital
picture should look just as good as an analog picture with the same resolution.
With a filter close to ideal, the digital picture shouldn't need much more
resolution than the analog.  What sort of filtering, if any, does PhotoCD use?
(Sorry if this topic has already been covered, and I missed it.)
  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
   . . . . Lee Choquette . . . . . . . . . .The early worm . . . . . . . . .
  . . . .lchoqu@cs.utah.edu . . . . . . . . . gets eaten. . . . . . . . . .
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rsilvers@cirrus.nynexst.com (Robert Silvers)
Subject: What is a good $200 center channel speaker?
Originator: rsilvers@cirrus
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 18:06:52 GMT



	I just bought a Cambridge Soundworks Center Channel Plus for
$200.  It has 4 3" paper drivers and 1 paper tweeter.  I have not been
impressed with it.  It claims to be well magnetically shielded, but I
cannot use it on top of my panasonic 27" flat-screen.  It also does
not match the tonal quality of my KEF-104 front units.  Are the paper
drivers and tweeters just to cost-reduce, or could they be good?  Am I
asking to much of a $200 speaker?  Would the Definitive Technology
C1-B be better?  Any other recommendations?

				Thanks,
					--Rob.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: cogsdell@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (tony c)
Subject: Re: Stereo commercials, mono programming?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 07:26:21 GMT

A similar situation happened here at Purdue.

The dorms are on a SMATV system with local and distant over-air feeds; these are all stereo.  Several channles including WGN(9 chicago) and MTV are satellite    feed.  I noticed one day that MTV was not in stereo but WGN was.  After calling video services I was told we only had one MTS stereo decoder, modulator and
that it would be uneconomical to buy another( ~ $3000 ) for MTV.  The guys did
swich the decoder over to the music channle after they got a few calls though.

                                                     TC
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Subject: is laserdisc _really_ rob
Reply-To: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:46:27 EST

This laserdisc talk alway's maeke's me wonder . Correct me if i'm wrong
someone but is laser not only roughly 300 lines of res . How about s-vhs
with 400 lines since s-vhs is better quality then why would anyonw buy
laser ? Is it because of durability ? It's the only one i can think of
Besides for sound quality . There is no no no real software around so
far for laser . They tried about ten year's ago to push laser and it
died a quick death so anyone planning on buying laser forget it . Once
we are able to record on laserdisk then this will definitly dominate the
market . The technology is already available we just have to wait for
prices to come down to earth .

   I also keep hearing about the life of video tape . Why is everyone
so worried about it ? The video tape will definitly outlive two or three
vcr's . Mind you ofcourse this is under normal use . If you negelct
anything no matter what it is you cann't not expect anything but a sure
death .

  I work in a video store we will be making our tenth aniversary in 1993
. We stock just over 10,000 titles in a 2500 square foot space . Let me
tell you NO ONE'S TAPES ARE GOING TO TAKE MORE ABUSE THAN OUR'S . If the
machine's are working properly no problems. The tapes we bought ten
year's ago wich got alot alot alot of playing still look very good and
again this is under the worst of conditions  .

       So everyone stop complaining about the life of you're tapes just
don't worry about it . They will probably live longer than the two of us
.


                                                    TONY !
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From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.cable-tv,rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Looking for source to buy VHS-160/180 cassettes in bulk.
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:02:57 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Dec22.100802.1897@schbbs.mot.com> yasin@laser.dev.cdx.mot.com 
(Yasin) writes:

>Could a kind soul please mail me the address of a good dealer of new
>VHS cassette, a mail order place or a particular dealer. I need it
>in a quantity of atleast 50+ . Have a safe and happy holiday, and a very
>happy new year.

Polyline Corp
1233 Rand Rd.
Des Plaines Il 60016
708-390-6464

PolyWest Corp
16018 Adelante St, Unit C
Irwindale CA 91702
818-969-8555

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chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: smith@ur-guh.com (Russ Smith)
Subject: Sony TR-101/Nikon VN750/Yashica/Ricoh...
Reply-To: e3urcs@fnma.COM
Organization: Ur-Guh Complex Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:31:10 GMT

Apologies for posting -- I received a personal message in reply to
a post but my main machine's disk crashed rather thoroughly, thus
my reply to the reply herein...

The question was "How much did a Nikon VN750 (TR-101 in Nikon disguise)
cost and where did you get it?"

The answer is "$1379 + shipping from Adorama of NYC, full USA warranty, brand
new, etc". The more complete answer is, however, that other places may have
this or equivalent even cheaper; there is that Texas company, name escapes
me, that purports to be about $100 less (about enough to buy two LED-metered
2-hour batteries).

Russ <smith@ur-guh.com>
posting from fnma.com 'cause ur-guh.com's mail link is limping along on
an AMIGA of all things while the disk on the, ahem, -real- machine is
replaced/recovered...:-(


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From: mikec@spider.co.uk (Mike Coren)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Clarificiation (Re: Farting (Re: Photo CD)
Date: 24 Dec 92 11:37:29 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Dec23.170733.1864@ircam.fr> francis@ircam.fr (Joseph Francis) writes:
>
>To clarify, I know several Scots, and they have wonderfully tight
>ne-eheheheh-ehther orifices, I think it comes from overcompensating
>for tossing off cabers (hurling themselves on telephone poles, for
>ordinary sheep, bwaaaa). If anyone knows me, they will know that
>tight-assedness is not something I consider, well, a per-er-errsonal
>deficit, and sarca-ahahahah-ahsm takes many forms.
>

Oh, please, Francis, don't talk like that.  You're getting me excited!  ;-)

Mi-i-i-i-ike
(Enduring those long cold Scottish winter nights)

(Actually, having lived in Scotland for the last seven months, I'd say between
 all the curry and lager they have around here I'm impressed at how little
 flatulation they actually have!)

-- 
Michael D. Coren, Electrical Engineer             mikec@spider.co.uk
Telecommunications Techniques Corporation, Germantown, Maryland, USA.
Temporarily at Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK.
From: imih@hoh-1.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: VIDEOTECH Digest V92 #1279
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:28:32 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I'd like to unsubscribe to this group.
From: pirrung@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (G. Pirrung)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Cable TV surround
Date: 27 Dec 92 19:49:45 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


Marc Siegall                     MSIEGALL@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU writes:
>>Who's right?  (On the few "surround" programs I've listened to, I couldn't
>>tell if there was a poor or non-existant surround signal.


Well, I have noticed differences in surround effects depending on whether
I use the tuner in my mts-vcr direct, or use the cable company's decoder
box. On the decoder box, I can adjust the audio volume. The effect this has
is on whether the signal is stereo or not. (Volume too low, mts light goes
out) The louder I get it, the more pronounced the surround effect, implying
better stereo separation. What I would like to know, is if there's
a way to adjust my vcr to get this more pronounced effect.

Also, there are two different types of surround encoding in effect,
Dolby pro, and another which I am not specifically knowledgable of.
I.E., David Letterman is Dolby Surround, identified by the Dolby
logo at the beginning of the show, whereas Saturday Night Live
is not, as identified by the generic "surround" logo at the
beginning.

No matter what, all you need is for the cable company to either
pass through the local broadcast channels intact, or to have a
mts encoder for the signals they get from satellite. The
integrity of the stereo signal, though, is what's important,
since the surround effect you hear is generated in your own
equipment.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: buck@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Loren Buchanan)
Subject: Re: VCR PLUS code conflicts in TV Guide
Followup-To: rec.video
Summary: Read the instruction book
Keywords: vcr+
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:35:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.050030.28763@netcom.com> pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard ) writes:
>I have noticed that in the Indianapolis edition of TV Guide, the VCR PLUS
>codes are AMBIGUOUS for certain TV stations.  Specifically, channel 20 in
>Indianapolis and channel 30 in Bloomington are PBS affiliates that have
>different programming.  Yet the numbers are alike.

If you look at the book for VCR+, PBS has been assigned VCR+ channel 1.  In
setting up your VCR+ controller you need to tell it which station you want
to be your PBS station (I have three to choose from in my area).  That is
another reason to be able to compute our own VCR+ codes.

Now that I have source code to generate VCR+ codes, I will be able to 
program it for various cable programs, etc. that VCR+ codes are not published
for.  Another reason I want this is the VCR+ is a great back up for the
programming on the VCR.  Every go away for a couple of days and come back to
flashing "12:00" and nothing has been recorded because of a power failure?
With duplicate programing on your VCR+ you will have all the programs that
were lost (assuming power was available when the show was actually on).

B Cing U

Buck

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Mike_Benna@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Benna)
Subject: Mitsubishi vs. Electrohome VCRs: What's the diff?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:36:08 GMT

I'm in the market for a new VCR and I've noticed that the Mitsubishi and
Electrohome models are virtually identical.  I'm curious to know if they
are built to the same specifications, or if they are merely the same
design but built to different specs?  Or are they really the exact same
unit with a different name plate?

While on the topic, I'd like a VCR with (at least) the following features:

        1) VHS HiFi (not S-VHS)
        2) Real time tape-counter display.
        3) High Quality Tuner (I presently have a Quasar HiFi VCR and the
           tuner on it really sucks).
        4) Reasonably fast transition from FF to Play to FF, etc.
        5) "Time left on tape" display (if possible).  I understand that
           only the SONYs and the JVCs have this feature, and for
           obvious reasons I'd like to avoid buying a JVC HiFi deck.  I
           thought I'd avoid the SONYs since I haven't liked the audio
           quality of any Sony product I've ever purchased.

The Mitsubishi U56+ seems to have the first 4 features.  Does anyone
have any other suggestions about what I should investigate?

--
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MindSpan Technologies          Video Game Design and Development
HardBall III, Summer/Winter Challenge, Joe Montana Football, Face Off!, etc
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From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Date: 22 Dec 1992 13:56:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I think there is more technical discussion on this thread in
comp.graphics.**
-- 
Ted....
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases,pdx.movies
From: bill@thd.tv.tek.com (William K. McFadden)
Subject: Laserdisc rental stores in Portland area
To: david@agora.rain.com
Organization: Tektronix TV Measurement Systems, Beaverton, OR
Distribution: pdx
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 08:12:47 GMT

[Last modified 16-Dec-92]

Please e-mail additions/corrections to me.  All stores charge $3 for a two
day rental except Cedar Mill Video and the Barbur First Stop Video, which
charges $3 for a one day rental.  Data supplied by stores and customers, may
not be accurate.


Store                   Phone       Address                              Titles

Captain Video           635-7100    3970 SW Mercantile Dr, Lake Oswego     2000
Captain Video II        671-9329    14767 SW Teal Blvd, Beaverton           500
Cedar Mill Video        526-0345    12675E N.W. Cornell Rd                   50
First Stop Video        232-0164    3720 SE Hawthorne Blvd                   50
First Stop Video        244-8393    9045 SW Barbur Blvd                     200
First Stop Video        629-5191    2341 NW 185th, Hillsboro                200
First Stop Video        656-7447    19129 S Beavercreek Rd, Oregon City     200
Home Video Library      760-6488    16544 SE Division                       500
Neptune Video           591-9898    16300 SW Hart Rd, Beaverton             200
Royal Video             234-7523    8237 SE 17th                            600
Top Hit Video           635-1502    15630 SW Boones Fy, Lake Oswego         200
Trilogy                 229-1884    2484 NW Thurman                         200
Video Express           944-0960    316 SE Hearthwood Blvd, Vancouver         ?

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From: GNICK@RCHVMP3.VNET.IBM.COM
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: best S-VHS camcorder ???
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:53:51 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

What's the best all-around "deal" for a S-VHS fullsize camcorder under $2000 ?
("deal" is defined here as the best combination of (1) technology, (2) price,
and (3) availability, IN THAT ORDER.)

Thanx,

--Nick
From: david@agora.rain.com (David Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: What is a good $200 center channel speaker?
Date: 25 Dec 92 21:57:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.Bzu508.G2z
Organization: Open Communications Forum

In article <1992Dec22.180652.2966@nynexst.com> rsilvers@cirrus.nynexst.com (Robert Silvers) writes:
>
>
>	I just bought a Cambridge Soundworks Center Channel Plus for
>$200.  It has 4 3" paper drivers and 1 paper tweeter.  I have not been
>impressed with it.  It claims to be well magnetically shielded, but I
>cannot use it on top of my panasonic 27" flat-screen.  It also does
>not match the tonal quality of my KEF-104 front units.  Are the paper
>drivers and tweeters just to cost-reduce, or could they be good?  Am I
>asking to much of a $200 speaker?  Would the Definitive Technology
>C1-B be better?  Any other recommendations?
>
>				Thanks,
>					--Rob.


I'm using the Definitive C1 on my Panasonic 27" flatscreen (the deluxe
model with PIP).  It's a good piece of work, and has fine sound quality.
If you can afford the extra dollars, it's an improvement.

One thing that you should be aware of with this combination, however, is
the fact that the Panasonic seems to be *quite* sensitive to magnetic
fields above the set.  I have noted that the upper right hand side of the
screen is especially finicky.  After two different C1s plus a trip from
the local TV repairman, one is forced to conclude that the set itself
is at fault.

Notes:  Don't place the C1 directly on top of the Panasonic.  I have some
5-6" above it on the top of the A/V cabinet (the problem is bad enough
there).  You'll have to play with placement to find the point of "least
interference."  Be prepared to invert the speaker 180 degrees; it helped
in my system.

Given the "magnetic shielding" on the C1 and the "superior design" of
the Panasonic, I confess to a certain frustration at having to go through
this to obtain decent center channel sound.  You'd think that Panasonic
would take every step to shield their tube on that (apparently sensitive)
upper right hand side.  Or does the fault lie with Definitive Technology?

Strange....

I guess the next step would be to try the speaker on the shelf beneath
the monitor.  I'll post the results should I attempt this.  (At the
present time, I've found a configuration that seems to work fairly well
above the monitor.  Inertia sets in....)

david


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From: iggy@uts.amdahl.com (Igor Braslavsky)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Is S-VHS dead?
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:17:02 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec21.230629.15715@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd) writes:
>Is it safe to say that Super-VHS is dead?  

No.

>I'm not sure how long it's been
>available, but they are very hard to find and most people seem to be
>buying Hi-fi VCR or LaserDisc players right now.  

Hi/Fi does not exclude S-VHS.  On the other hand it's not likely that you'd
find a S-VHS VCR without Hi/Fi. S-VHS machines are coming down in price a lot
in the last couple of years, and I see them in almost all video stores around
here ranging from around $500 to $3000. It's certainly no problem getting 
them mailorder.

>Doesn't S-VHS give a
>better picture than even a LaserDisc player?  

No, not according to the numerous articles on this subject in this group.
S-VHS is comparable in quality (but is no better, IMO) to Hi8.  That's from
personal experience.

>I've never seen a video
>store that rents S-VHS tapes, but some are beginning to rent
>LaserDiscs.  

Same here, too bad.  Laser disks have been renting for at least 4 years.

>Does anybody out there own a S-VHS player?

Sony SLV-R5, a great S-VHS machine overall.  Mailorder price, probably around
$750, retail around $1000.

- igor
Newsgroups: rec.video