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From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: For a break...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:49:14 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
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In article <C18sJM.n2n@news.udel.edu>, akash@brahms.udel.edu (Akash Sharma) writes:
|> In article <01GTS59CX5LEEWWKBN@UMAECS> VIGNESWA@ecs.umass.edu writes:
|> >	The Boston Globe, Livng/Arts, Page 27 of Wednesday January 20
|> >issue covers (full page) some Fun Facts about the First Family.  
|> >
|> >	I thought at least few of SCIndia readers would enjoy these.
|> >
|> >William Jefferson Clinton:
|> >
|> >	Birthday            : Aug 19, 1946
|> >	Secret Service Name : Eagle
|> 			      ^^^^^
|> 	Just as a side note, this is the standard Secret Service Name for any
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> President.  I guess it is suppose to emphasize that it is the office and not
|> the person that is being protected.

Are you sure about that? I seem to recall reading that Ronnie and Nancy were
called Rawhide and Rainbow by the Secret Service.

|> Akash.
|> akash@ravel.udel.edu


-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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From: srinivas@tachyon.crd.ge.com (Chukka Srinivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bombay Riots - An Eye Witness Report
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:30:22 GMT
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

In article <1993Jan24.133334.6095@doug.cae.wisc.edu> budaraju@cae.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju) writes:
>This is an eye witness account of the first three days of communal
>violence that broke out in Bombay, from Jan 11, 1993 to Jan 13, 93
>by John D'Mello, Department of Sociology, St. Pius College, Bombay.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jan 11, 1993
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>This [is] the worst communal violence Bombay has ever seen. The local
>Marathi newspapers are against the Muslims and talk of teaching them
>a lesson. 95 percent of the families and people who have been hurt,
>killed, looted ... have been Muslims. The Biharis and South Indians
>whi have been sent back to their home towns have mostly been Muslims.
>The attack on them was very well planned and executed. In this spate
>of violence, it is estimated that 75,000 Muslims have left Bombay.
>Muslim men are now shaving off their beards and buying crosses to
>escape from being killed.
>
>-John D'Mello
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-Srinivas				budaraju@cae.wisc.edu

  Reminds me of 1984 anti-sikh voilence in Delhi.

-srinivas
From: rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A            )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Allegations against FFT and Vijay's posting on Weinberg 8-)
Summary: Rajiv, the mole SAMOSA
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:23:00 GMT


We break our regular broadcasting to bring you this special report, 
live from NEC.


	Rajiv Digne, a desi mule, became the first victim of the
'mai SAMOSA hai !' syndrome. He was a pioneer, establishing the charter of 
the SAMOSA syndicate and magnanimously appointing FFT as MaD.
A  scrupuless ;-) member, tragically a victim of this communicable ;-) 
syndrome, thanks to a seasoned SAWNETter (ahem.....thank you, thank you).

He leaked highly sensitive material concerning his organization, quote
" At these very moment, in the headquarters of SAMOSA, dour grim men
wearing hob-nailed shoes are about to decree a FATWA on thee.." unquote.

As per the decree laid down (ref : charter), he is scheduled for 
dismembered by Atilla (who was appointed this morning, these MaD's sure 
are sly, aren't they ?) at 10:00 am EST 25, Jan '93, which has been 
declared a SCI "SAMOSA" day. Sources close to the MaD say that as
this is the first such incident immediate dismemberment is not possible.
His source license has been revoked as of 1:05 EST, 21 Jan '93.


We will continue as this scenario develops, please stay chutnied ;-)
to the screen. Now, back to our highly popular series "The desi mule 
posts on SCI " ...........



Arathi.



-- 
See simplicity in the complicated
	- Lao Tzu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g7tn@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Mehendale Shashank)
Subject: Looking for Ms Medha Abhyankar at University of Akron, Ohio.
Organization: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:56:19 GMT

Hi Netters,

    I am looking for Medha Abhyankar, she did her MS in chemical engg.
from the university of akron (Ohio) . To the best of my knowladge she
is pursuing PhD in Chemical engg in the same University.

Can soembody at UAkron, Ohio please inform me her E-mail address?

Thank you.

Shashank


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2)
Subject: Re: Ref: India/Tibet (China) Border Issues	
Organization: bnr.ca
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:07:58 GMT

Kashmir was part of Ashok's empire...and so was Pakistan.
Did people of Hindustan ask for division? Was there any
referndum? Please cut the crap....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: divaka@jacob.its.rpi.edu (Ajay Divakaran)
Subject: Re: Sanjeev Mahajan in his own words.
Reply-To: divaka@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:37:47 GMT

I remember this posting of Sanjeev Mahajan's. I dont know why I have
been "elevated" to membership of the IPSG, an organization that I have
never been a part of and never will be. Frankly, it has too many dogmatic
marxists in it for my liking. In fact, singing Communist revolutionary
songs in the US by well fed Indian students strikes me as being incongruous
to say the least.
        Please desist from conferring IPSG membership on undeserving people
like me. The mantle of pseudo-secularism is heavy as it is. Since when
did IPSG members acquire the exclusive right to be secular? Sanjeev Mahajan
has, IMHO, extreme views that he is entitled to, and I do not agree with
all of them. To judge Pramath, Chukka,
Budaraju and me by his words is ridiculous.
                   This is my last post on this issue. Please feel free
to have the last word.
                                                      ajay 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2)
Subject: Re: Recent Turmoil in India - Wisdom of ...
Organization: bnr.ca
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:55:47 GMT

Below is excerpted from an interview with Maulam Wahiduddin Khan	
68 year old Islalic History scholar
(contents taken from Asia Week - Magazine, without permission)...		

Q: What is history of the [Babari] Mosque?

MWK: Tt was built by Bir Baqi. Babar neither saw or consented
to the mosque. Mir probably erred in building on the controversial
site but it was never intended as a symbol of conquest but only
of grace. If Babar had ordered its building it could be seen
as symbol of conquest.

Q: Was there a better way to handle this (situation)?

MWK: ...an unused Mosque got undue inportance...a local issue
raised to national inportance [by Muslim leaders ..cashed on
by others].

Q: What is Muslim mood today?

MWK: ...Muslim elders are all advising patience. In fact, talk 
of rebuilding [BM} came only after PM [Rao] spoke of it.

Q: What can heal the wounds?

MWK: ...only return of secularlism of Gandhi/Nehru...Muslims have
to stop reacting and Hindus have to quit thinking that 
Hinduism is an aternative to secularism.

...EOE...J.Singh
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: U.S. Citizen NRIs Please leave India alone (Re: BJP)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:16:22 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

A cautious earthling, balaji kannan beams back:
>
>fafatoid@*****.ufo.ETu (a friendly ET) transmits :-)
>
>>anything wrong? Harami Congress engineered it. Such naive attitude
>>tells me I've won the bet against balaji kannan. He said you were
>>12. I bet on below 10.
>
>      No wonder you were dubbed 'truthless'! :-) *If* I did bet,
>      it must have been on 12 *months* against your 10 *years* :-)
>      for the simple reason that U've always managed to lose bets :-)


	that's because you earthlings are such cheaters. No wonder you
	peepuls are in such a miserable state where you kill your own
	kind on ethnic/religious [what is this religion, I ask, O intelligent
	earthling]/colour/birth/... criteria. we Megallanoids are much more
	content with being "truthless" than with being "Trutheous/righteous" 
	like those earthlingoid Mullahs/sadhus/shankaracharyas/priests/.... 
	are....


>      Vijay, I'd never guess peepuls biological age :-)based on how
>      conveniently they misinterpret the vedas or how cleverly they
>      justify killings with reincarnation/karma/ .... or how silly
>      *I* find someone's newsgroup-opinions.


	I was talking about mental age. And hey, is'nt it appropriate that
	I be more cowncerned with verma's "spiritual" and "mental" age,
	given that he believes so passionately in the Vedas? I mean,
	all this world is Maya, yaar; sub kuch zhoot hai... :)


>      sci brethren/sistren if I did have this prowess :-) However, I   
>      *may* have told u,"As a rule, ALL rootin' tootin' reactionaries 
>      are AGELESS" :-) :-)


	of course, that "age" can be replaced by "brain","sense", etc is
	another problem altogether.. :)

	FFT
            "greetings from our galaxy"
From: fafat@phakt.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:20:47 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

Srik [of Allah fame] writes:

>#	my sympathies!
>#	But FFT, truthless. FFT, is it u she is referring to here, really?
>#	Allah! tell me it is not true!

	well, I *could* say, "not true" but since I've already been branded
	"truthless", that statement would be self-defeating. I'd rather say,
	"It's true" :):)

>#be careful it could easily be interpreted as such, what with Uma already
>#receiving mails questioning the authenticity of SAWNET. :-) I think it would 
>#have been worthwhile if you had transcribed an article 'Writing on the Wall'
>#which appeared in the latest PlayBoy issue and posted it on SCI. I would

	huh? HUH? Whaddya think we are all dirty boys reading such much
	magazines?? You beware. I am you warned.

	FFT [all work no play(boy) makes Jack a dull boy]
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: .... 60.min/dowry....
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:26:01 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Varsha Brahmbhatt writes:
>I think the way to start solving this problem would be to STOP giving
>dowries and this could start with upper middle class people.  
>
>--Varsha


	No, this just does'nt work. You stop giving, the girl remains a
	spinster. The first step has to come from the guys who shd have the
	will to stand up for such a principle. Unfortunately, most are
	either gutless wimps who can't stand up against family pressures
	or are plain swept away by the fact that dowry is an easy way to
	some free riches.

	FFT
From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RE: Why Muslin persecution is rempant these days?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:37:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: kuhub.1993Jan26.113728.46776
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1993Jan26.151418.9486@bnr.ca>, uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2) writes:
> The Islam was usually embraced to be "downtrodden" of the
> society because it was the only way for them to break the
> tyranny of the majority...finally they want to feel equal 
> to everyone else...but of course this only invites further
> persecution (in the name of religion, this time). The 
> situation is further worsened by the Theorcarts (on both
> sides). This is SOLEY my personal opinion anyway.


   I agree with your personal opinion, anyways. In this aspect Soviet Marxism
   and Islam have attained the same objectives. To liberate the "downtrodden"
   by encouraging them to resort to violent means and inculcating people to
   believe that violence against people who are different is the only way to
   achieve a meaningful existence - is what the two societies have for ages
   been trying to achieve. Such an attitude of intolerance exhibited
   towards people who are different make these two modes of lifeforms/ society
   repressive and abhorrent by the standards of the civilized societies.
 
   - deb chatterjee
   (a good samaritan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Originator: ssd@vayu.psrc.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: ssd@apollo.psrc.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:57:31 GMT


In article <1jngeqINNchk@aludra.usc.edu>, fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay
Fafat) writes:

> 	Which reminds me of an SSD adventure when he was young.
> 	One day, when he had just learnt to ride a bike, he happily
> 	moved around. Seeing his mother standing close by, he thunk, "lemme
> 	impress mom". So with only one hand on the handle, he says, "look
> 	ma, onnu hand". Ma is happy. SSD thinks, onto greater ones. Releases
> 	the other hand and shouts, "Look Ma, no hands". Ma is exulted.
> 	SSD ventures higher. Stops pedalling and raises both legs on the
> 	handle. shouts, "Look Ma, no legs". Ma is worried. And rightly so, 
> 	since after some time, SSD comes walking to her and says, "look Ma,
> 	no teeth" :)
> 
> 	FFT
> 

Exthellent thtuff. With your talentth you will thcale new peakth. I
thtrongly thuggetht you potht to alt.thex.thtorieth. Your thkillth will
come in uthe there. All the betht. ;-@

Eth Eth Dee
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:45475 soc.culture.pakistan:19881 soc.culture.bangladesh:7717
From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (KING COBRA)
Subject: Re: Call 1-800-766-1818 for Indian Music Cd's& Read This !
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:33:10 GMT

In article <9301272106.AA08159@redbird.umsl.edu> sanjiv@redbird.umsl.edu (Sanjiv K. Bhatia) writes:
>In soc.culture.indian you write:
>
>> [ ... ]
>
>> I agree with you. I asked the guy for the address and he wouldn't give it
>> to me. I also asked for the brochures so I know what kind of stuff they
>> have, and the guy said he will mail it to me. Well it has been a week and
>> a half and still no info. 
>
>> I guess we desis don't know how to do business. Columbia House offers 8 free
>> CD's when you sign up and this place doesn't even send information. Plus
>> the CH's brochures and catalogs are free. 
>
>I was about to order a few CDs from this guy.  Does anyone have positive
>experiences with him?  His rates seem to be reasonable but reading the posts, I
>am having second thoughts.
>

   Great!!  At least you can tell us what kind of stuff they have. I doubt it
   if I want to order CD's from this place. I still have no info. about it.



-- 


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: pandya@levers.dec.com (Atul Pandya)
Subject: Surat atrocities article
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:05:42 GMT


Could a kind souls either email me or post here, the article that appeared
here a few days ago on some gruesome acts of violence in Surat (Gujarat)?

Thanks in advance
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Atul Pandya	pandya@ranger.enet.dec.com
		--or-- ...!decwrl!ranger.enet.dec.com!pandya
		--or-- pandya%ranger.dec@decwrl.dec.com
From: baindur@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Satyen G Baindur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Super computers from India...way to GO guys
Date: 26 Jan 1993 22:12:47 -0500
Organization: Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

In article <1k4qdcINNm42@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
>In article <9301262231.AA06807@ho10.eng.ua.edu>, bkannan@ho10.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan) writes:
>|> 
>|>         Fakruddin Ali Ahmed was a 'Muslim President' [died while in office].
>|>         Who was the other? I seem to have forgotten.
>
>Dr. Zakir Hussain, 3rd President.
>

  For the record let us also include M. Hidayatullah, who was (Acting) 
President twice - once while he was Chief Justice and later when he was 
Vice President. All three, I would like to think, were Presidents of India,
who happened to be Muslim, rather than 'Muslim Presidents'. Incidentally, 
Gulzarilal Nanda was Acting Prime Minister on two ocassions during the 60s.  

 --Satyen

-- 
   "History is not high mystery for high priestly historians"
                       John Charmley, Lecturer in History,
                      University of East Anglia at Norwich
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: MARDHEMS@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu ()
Subject: Hindu Heritage Summer Camp Alumni
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:17:06 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


	For former campers, counselors, and anyone else affiliated with HHSC:

	If there is anyone out there who attended Hindu Heritage Summer Camp in
Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania could you please E-mail me?  The camp is nuo longer
in existence.  

	I was a camper and then a counselor there from 1984 - '87.  I thought
about the possibility of having a reunion, and want to discuss it with others.

		

				Thanks!

				
					Maneesh
			
					mardhems@ctrvax.venderbilt.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jogi@austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Subject: Re: V.P. Singh is a shithead 
Originator: vijay@vijay.austin.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:45:25 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)


In article <1993Jan20.161054@IASTATE.EDU>, scindia@IASTATE.EDU  writes:
>  Need anyone say more ?
> 
>

AMEN....
From: bkannan@ho10.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: fafatoid ob. trash :-)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 16:42:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



fafatoid@*****.ufo.ETu (a friendly ET) relays :-)

>that's because you earthlings are such cheaters. No wonder you
>peepuls are in such a miserable state where you kill your own
>kind on ethnic/religious [what is this religion, I ask, O intelligent
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>earthling]/colour/birth/... criteria. we Megallanoids are much more
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

     ET :-) you may wanna address that qn. to His Holiness, Debrindam
     Gosherjee :-) Although I *may* belong to an 'intelligent' race,
     I am not sufficiently equipped to dispel *your* doubts 'bout the
     role of religion in human affairs; nevertheless am inclined to 
     think that all religion is not hoodlummery though you may have  
     the latter in the name of *any* 'religion'. About the miserable
     state of affairs, yes, it quite pains a lot of us out here that 
     instead of devoting our combined energy to attacking extra terre-
     strials :-) :-) we shd be mindlessly killing our own kind :-) :-)
     thereby reducing the overall 'intelligence' on this darling planet 
     :-) of ours.
        
     Like I said, in the future, please direct any questions, sugges- 
     tions or what-have-yous :-) on religion to Sri. Gosherjee. We earth- 
     lings are very friendly to strangers [but you *have* to convince us 
     that you are *not* an earthling in disguise :-) to win our affection]
     and Mr. Gosherjee *particularly* is; he likes giving a peace of his
     mind :-) to every unsuspecting soul :-) and could sweep you away
     with much religio-sentimental stuff :-) even before you get to
     fire your first salvo :-) Please wear your senti-proof jacket :-)
     anti-religious mask :-) and take the think-before-you-convert-to
     -Bahaiism shot :-) while you engage/confront him. These are std.
     precautions an earthling usually takes; you may wanna go ahead
     with anything additional you would have brought & innoculate
     yourself against our religious virus infecting you :-) I will
     standby to provide comic relief :-) whenever you find the meta-
     physical stuff too much to digest er..... receive :-) though I
     have a hunch :-) that you wud't understand nor wud you make a
     sincere attempt :-) to undertsand all this "what-on-earth-does-that-
     mean-????" :-) stuff. 

[....] 
>        FFT
>            "greetings from our galaxy"

     Greetings and try enjoyng your stay :-)
  
bk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nayar@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Naresh Nayar) 
Subject: Practical Training /Social Security Taxes 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:30:02 GMT
Distribution: usa 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester


-- 
My employer is currently witholding Social Security Taxes ( my current
visa status is F-1/Practical Training).

Could some visa guru email/post whether I am required to pay Social
Security Tax while I am on a Practical Training Visa?

Thanks,
Naresh                                                      
				  	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 22:28:28 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Venu Nayar writes:
>1] the quote was a pull-off from a spoof about the army...join the army,
>visit exotic places, meet interesting people, and kill them. hence, read
>usenet, connect with far-away machines, talk to interesting people and flame
>them.

	Thank you for the invitation. Presuming I'm interesting [whoever said
	I don't exaggerate?], here's one flame for you:

	"Venu Nayar is  a bumbling, pigheaded twitwinch"

	:)

>2] sridhar and i spend all our time discussing *usenet*. oh, for the lack of
>a life. :-)

	tch tch tch... Sridhar, what's your life become! Shame on you!
	
	FFT :)














	


From: sharma@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Sandeep Sharma (temp))
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:39:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Ref: India/Tibet (China) Border Issues
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian

In soc.culture.indian, uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2) writes:

> As fas as I know India has NO border with China its the Tibet
> border you are talking about. Tibet was a sovereign state before

I am sure India haas a common border with China in the Northeast
( along Arunachal Pradesh ) .

Sandeep
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sirdesh@fzi.uka.de (Sameer Sirdeshpande)
Subject: Shoot Thackeray
Reply-To: fzi.de
Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:04:50 GMT


So who wants to organise the coming attempt to assassinate Bal Thackeray?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian