HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: 89u1569@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: ab20 and Termclo
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:05:55 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <13APR199214081732@zeus.tamu.edu>, cqn1676@zeus.tamu.edu (CHINH QUOC NGUYEN) writes:
> 
> Now that ab20 is gone, where is the best source for NEW uploads?
	yep let us know what any of yaz find. (on the net offcourse)
I've used NComm,
	Forget it, especialy the new version.
> VLT
	It's great I had to go beck to it after Term apeared to have so
many probs with Terminal emulation, VLT has a new version wich works great. It
has ARREX and is quite configurable. Not as nice looking as Term. I am hoping
to go back to Term though on a future release. it looked great.

> and  JR Comm (ughh what a rip!)

	Dont's like the feal. I don't know why. But VLT works great with VT100
terminals.
> 
> Chinh Nguyen
> cqn1676@venus.tamu.edu
> 

SYA 
	Geo T.
From: castleaw@brandonu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Help with SLIP and TCP/IP
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:20:21 GMT
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

I would like to know about slip and tcp/ip (cp?) my sys op tells me that with
these two programs I can DL straight from Internet to my Amiga SCSI HD. This
would be most advantagous as it saves me undue amount of time, and sometimes
I just don't ahve a high enough quota on the Universities Comp to get what I
want.  Please help me on this one oh laso if this is what I need can you steer
me to the programs.

Thanks in advance!
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From: wdieteri@wrdis01.af.mil (William)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Help with new vltjr
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:58:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: 1926CCSG Robins AFB

I am having trouble with Vltjr v5.517.  I have an Datalink 2000 internal
modem, and when I attempt to select that device, and the unit, I get a
requestor telling me it cannot open device, and then gives me the unit number
I had selected.  I have tried modifing the vltjr program with a file editor
and had no luck.  Any ideas??


 Name:   Will Dieterich                             Call Sign: KD4LZE
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From: dale@ntg.com (Dale Luck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Terminal emulators and TCP/IP
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:22:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: ntg.1992Apr9.202210.7148
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

In article <7APR92.23571507@wl.aecl.ca> roachp@wl.aecl.ca writes:
>Tssnet from Syndesis has tcp/ip support and decnet, for use with
> ethernet or through the serial port. Good luck trying to get info
> from them, though.PJR

Not true, TSSnet only supports DECnet on ethernet or serial. It
has nothing to do the tcp/ip. It's easy to get information from
them, just call them up. Syndesis: 608-455-1422

Dale Luck / GfxBase
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems,comp.protocols.misc
From: karl@MorningStar.Com (Karl Fox)
Subject: Re: New modem transfer protocol
Reply-To: Karl Fox <karl@MorningStar.Com>
Organization: Morning Star Technologies
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:32:28 GMT

In article <oPeeiB1w164w@zswamp.UUCP> geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey
Welsh) writes:
   patrick@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Patrick Ko) writes:

   > Nice thought, but have a big hole in that you have a block structure
   > that you need something to mark the begin or end of a block - i.e. a
   > block separator, or else if an error arise, you have no way of resync
   > the data by skipping to the start of the next block.  However once you
   > have a block separator, out goes your 100% throughput.

      I guess the original author's question (not mine!) might be:
   "Why frame the blocks at all?  If the size of the blocks is fixed
   and known, then we can use that to determine which block we're
   working on...

    ... unless data is lost, a burst of line noise causes the
   character count to be disturbed, etc.

Even though it appears you can't get `100% throughput', you can
probably come close enough that it looks like 100%.  Reserve an
`escape byte' to mark retransmissions, and you can come up with a
workable protocol that can use 255 256ths (99.6%) of the bandwidth on
a clean line.  Use a longer sequence if you want to get closer to 100%
-- a 4 byte sequence could give you 99.99999997% throughput, which
means 100% except for very rare files that contain the escape sequence
(probably the protocol binary itself!) and thus have to be escaped.
Sure, you'd be able to come up with a pathological file that would be
only 75% efficient, but such a file could also be compressed to a few
percent of its original size.  :-)
--
Karl Fox, Morning Star Technologies                            +1 800 558 7827
1760 Zollinger Road, Columbus, Ohio 43221                      +1 614 451 1883
From: Mark_Skaff@softworx.access (Mark Skaff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: JR-Comm version?
Distribution: world
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:58:05 PST
Organization: Subterrainian Softworx BBS

In a message dated Fri 10 Apr 92 04:16, Jprad@faatcrl.uucp (jack Radigan)
wrote:

>What is the newest version avbailable to registered users
>of v1.02a??

 JR>   1.02a
 JR>   -jack-

If you can release the following information, please do; When will a higher
version be out, and what will it be? What changes will it include?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.991

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Mark Skaff   //   Fidonet: 1:243/44.5
Ottawa, Ont.//    Only Amiga Makes It Possible.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: VLT 5.517 bug with FR BYPASS
Keywords: vlt, bug
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:41:10 GMT

dvsg0223@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David Salamon) writes:
>I seem to have stumbled on a bug that VLT 5.517 has when the program FR BYPASS
>version 3.02 (by Khalid Aldoseri) is run.

FR_BYPASS also breaks on Microbotics RDPrep software, so I think the bug
is most likely in FR_BYPASS, not VLT or RDPrep. I've been meaning to
send a bug report to Khalid, but haven't got a round to it yet.
-- 
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blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:3546 comp.dcom.modems:6688
From: David-L@cup.portal.com (David Steven Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: HELP!  Zmodem/SupraFax
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:12:05 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Robert,

Reguarding your problem with Z-Modem Uploads it sounds like your CTS/RTS
handshake is not working correctly.

If your terminal is set to a higher rate then the carrier then the
modem MUST have a way to slow the terminal down (on uploads).

I had the problem because my CMI MultiPort board doesn't support
hardware handshake.

check to see that you have CTS/RTS selected in BOTH preferences
and on your terminal.

David Levin
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:3528 comp.dcom.modems:6645
From: jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: HELP!  Zmodem/SupraFax
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:17:57 GMT
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland

In article <bobl.3917@bobsbox.rent.com> bobl@bobsbox.rent.com (Bob Lindabury, SysAdmin) writes:
>I find that the Amiga can *not* keep up with a DTE speed of 38,400 much
>less 57,600 on the internal serial port if you are running anything else
>in the background.  If you are connecting with a speed of over 19,200,
>you are asking for dropped characters.	Sometimes you can get away with
>38,400 but it's very rare.  I am running an A2500 with a 25mhz 2630 with
>4 megs of 32 bit ram and a 68882 and I have trouble with 38,400.

My brother installed a V.32 V.42bis modem to his A2000 system yesterday
and we transferred a few big (over 500KB) files to him at 1100 cps.  His
machine has a German BSC MultiFaceCard (two serial, two parallel ports)
which supports DTE speeds up to 57600 bps.  At the 1100 cps transfer
rate his vanilla 68000-based A2000 had no problems with the data - in
fact, much less than 50% of CPU time was being used.  We were using
Z-Modem protocol and VLT terminal program.  The sending machine was an
A3000 with Supra V.32bis modem and similar I/O board.

Some terminal programs seem to hog CPU time during data transfers.  One
of the best in this respect is DNet which uses _very_ little CPU time
during file transfers.

>The solution is to get another serial card such as the Commodore 8 port
>board or the ASDG dual serial board.  These will free up the computer
>and allow for some throughput.	I don't know what the max DTE on the
>Commodore board is.  Can someone enlighten me?	I want to use a board
>that will allow me to set DTE speeds up to 57k.

Try the BSC board.  It has worked well for me both in A2000's and in my
A3000.

>Any suggestions?  Thanks.

You're welcome.

>-- Bob

Jukka Marin
jmarin@messi.uku.fi




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From: elad@LIBRA.MATH.TAU.AC.IL (Tsur Elad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Term 2.1 is out!
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:54:48 GMT
Organization: Tel-Aviv University Math and CS School, Israel


In article <stefanb.703250742@rama>, stefanb@rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker) writes:
> 
>  ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.112.31] /pub/amiga/comm
>  amiga.physik.unizh.ch [130.60.80.80] /pub/amiga/new (maybe moved to ../comm)
> 
>      term_2.1_international_1.zom  International version, Disk 1
>      term_2.1_international_2.zom  International version, Disk 2
>      term_2.1_deutsch_1.zom        German version, Disk 1
>      term_2.1_deutsch_2.zom        German version, Disk 2
> 

Why on earth are you using Zoom for AmigaDOS disks??? - Zoom is supposed to
be used with Non-AmigaDOS disks (Demos,Games etc) ONLY!!! Why not use LhA
which is faster and much more usable for people who have a hard drive?

Anyway thanks for the upgrade !

Elad
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:3551 comp.dcom.modems:6694 comp.protocols.misc:354
From: markd@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au (Mark Delany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems,comp.protocols.misc
Subject: Re: New modem transfer protocol
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:12:08 GMT
Organization: Phoenix ComSystem. Public UNIX Melbourne Australia.

In <1992Apr8.194254.13083@crd.ge.com> davidsen@yeti.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:

>In article <dej.00jj@qpoint.amiga.ocunix.on.ca>, dej@qpoint.amiga.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones) writes:

>|  PEP is real bad in that it's unidirectional.  Send ONE byte down the
>|  back channel and you take 10 seconds to retrain for the turn-around.
>|  If you have a PEP, stick with Zmodem.

>  Why? You have spoofing for Xmodem, Kermit, and uucp 'g', so you
>shouldn't see any diference in throughput, with those protocols, unless
>you fail to run the serial link fast enough.

Or unless you happen to use other than a spoofing protocol, which is where
this thread started.



-----------                                          --------------------------
Mark Delany                                          markd@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au
From: rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: "64 Mentality" Sofware Piracy is not theft
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:35:39 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

re: "free" education

Sorry, but there isn't any such animal.  Someone is paying for that
"free" education.  The student may not be paying directly, but their
parents and other taxpayers are.

Even college students at state supported schools pay only a portion of the
costs of their educations; they also receive a sizable taxpayer subsidy.


-- 
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From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: VT 240 terminal emulators?
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:17:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: bsu-ucs.1992Apr8.151715.5885


	Hi!  I desperately need a VT240 emulator for my college classes.  I
would do anything for one.  I would even (possibly) sell my soul.
		Please help me out, fellow Amiga users.
			:-)Kyle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: roachp@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: RE: Terminal emulators and TCP/IP
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 05:57:15 GMT

Tssnet from Syndesis has tcp/ip support and decnet, for use with ethernet or through the serial port. Good luck trying to get info from them, though.PJR
From: jgodfrey@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jon David "JET" Godfrey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: SURPA ORDER FORM -(WAS: Can`t download Sysop Prog. from Supra`s BBS.)
Summary: This is the order form for Supra's Sysop Deal
Keywords: Supra, sysop, modem, deal, package, 14.4
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:16:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: zeus.1992Apr07.191649.144303
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <1992Apr6.164445.8501@news.cs.indiana.edu> sgberg@raisin.ucs.indiana.edu (Stefan Berg) writes:
>I just tried to call Supra`s BBS (1-503-967-2444) to download
>their Sysop Program Application, but after I got the CONNECT
>message from my old 1200 Baud modem it just hang me up after
>maybe 10 secs. I tried to hit return (and other keys) a couple
>times, but nothing appeared. Can anybody help me out? (Please?)
>
>Stefan


Okay, for everyones convenience, here is the order form for applying for
one (or more) of Supra Corporation's Sysop modem deal(s).

Complete the information below and send it to Supra by one of the
following methods:

US Mail:
	Supra Corporation
	7101 SW Supra Drive
	Albany, OR   97321
	ATTN: Sysop Order

FAX: (503) 967-2401


       ------------------------[ Cut Here ]------------------------

SYSOP INFORMATION:

BBS Name:                           BBS Software:	 
BBS Phone:                          Type of System:	 
No. of Phone Lines:                 Type of Modem Used:	 
No. Calls per Month:                No. of Modems:	 
How long in operation:	 

ORDER INFORMATION:

Date:	 
BILL TO:	 
Address:	 
City:                    State:    Zip:            Phone:  

Contact Name:  
Circle one:     VISA      MasterCard      COD
Card Number:                          Expires: 

SHIP TO:	
Address:	
City:                    State:    Zip:            Phone:  

Referred by: 

PRODUCT:

Model:                   Price:                     Quantity:
SupraFAXModem v.32       $199.95 (modem only)       ______ 
SupraFAXModem v.32bis    $249.95 (modem only)       ______

SHIPPING:

Route:                   Price:                     Quantity:
____Ground               $ 5.00/pc                  ______
____Blue Label           $ 8.00/pc                  ______
____Express              $12.00/pc                  ______

COMMENTS:


       ------------------------[ Cut Here ]------------------------

And that's about it....
By the way, I am not affiliated with SupraCorp. in any way, except as a happy
owner of three of their modems!

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I-NET: jgodfrey@demeter.calpoly.edu | Amiga, Adult & Grafix DBases | __  ///  
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: aq061@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Devine)
Subject: SupraFAX shipping?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 15:52:37 GMT


I ordered my SupraFAX from Briwall in mid march..  I called yesterday and
they said that a sales rep from Supra told them theat there would be a 
two week delay because of a problem(?) at Supra.  Can anyone verify this?
Has anyone received a SupraFAX from anyplace besides Supra itself?
From: huebnere@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Huebner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Opinions on Term 2.1
Keywords: discussion term
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:03:09 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr14.174655.17308@descartes.waterloo.edu> djkucera@descartes.waterloo.edu (Dylan Kucera) writes:
>    I am somewhat disappointed in the new update of Term from 2.0 - 2.1.
>I loved the sleak look of Term 2.0.  It was very professional looking.
>    The status line, for lack of a better word is now "Gawd Awful."  On an
>NTSC screen, it sticks out like a sore thumb, unlike the nice 3-D window
>look on 2.0.  The download window looks a mess comparitively, quite
>unorganized in my opinion.

  I don't really see much difference in appearance.  I personally think
the new status line is a LOT easier to read, since its now Black lettering
in place of the old White (default colors, anyway).  It takes up more space
granted, but I think its a lot easier to find the info you want.  And of
course I don't have to remind you that it can be turned off if it doth
offend.

  As for the download window - I love the new one.  It gives FAR more
information to the user than JRComm does and the scrolling window to review
past transfer errors is very smart.  Again, I think functionality is more
important than looks (and I think it looks good, really).

>    I'm not trying to put anyone down, it's just that I think term has
>"downgraded" more than upgraded.  I suppose I'll just have to dig into the
>source code and make some changes!

  Its definitely NOT a downgrade.  VT100/102 emulation now works flawlessly
(for me anyway) on both Emacs and VI, the characters on the right-edge of
the screen no longer leave garbage on the border, VT340 emulation no longer
crashed my machine, there is now an 020-040 version of the program, the
Commodore Install script is a DREAM to use, the phonebook has been 
enchanced in many directions I had been hoping for, and AREXX now works
fine.  In fact, my only complaint is the new new term doesn't use the HELP
key for popup on the FAST! Macros.  I guess I'll just have to get used to this.

>    Anyway, it still beats the heck out of any other terminal program
>I've seen.

  Assuming its download speed is now on par with JRComm (Term 2.0 was about
15% slower for me but it may have been my setup) I wholeheartedly agree.
Initial test suggest this is true, at least on my modem.

>Anyone else have any comments?

  Yes - thanks for the support of the middle mouse button.. an unexpected
treat!

>DK.

Rob

-- 
| Robert E. Huebner                   | "Death is nature's way of telling  |
| huebner@sage.cc.purdue.edu          |  you to slow down"                 |
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From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: NComm 2.0 at last!
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:03:14 GMT
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:

> rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy) writes:
> 
> >I maintain that these people _do_ give back, even if it be further down 
> >the line.  I feel that the deliberate destruction of the underground is 
> >tantamount to cutting the throats of the next generation of 
> >programmers/artists.  Where else is there for them to learn?
> 
>   Jeez, Rocker!  Did you break your ankles after that leap of logic?
> 
>   I gotta give you credit for one of the most original, if not deranged,
> ideas I've heard yet; piracy promotes the learning of programming and
> art.
> 
>   Just when you think you've heard it all... <sigh>
> 
>   -jack-

ROTF, Jack!  (break your ankles...haha)  But I'm serious about it.  It's 
an environment which encourages computer literacy.


"Sometimes what you say is going to fly right in the faces of the 
powerful people who really run this world, but you don't care...you know 
it's your place to challenge authority..."

                                          Rockerboy
From: karkan@msdrl.com (Jim Karkanias)
Subject: Terminal emulators and TCP/IP
Organization: Merck Sharp & Dohme Research Laboratories
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 16:57:01 GMT

Does anybody know of a terminal emulator that knows about TCP/IP (ala the
AS225 package).  We can't use rlogin and rloginVT over here fro reasons beyond
the scope of this post.


Thanks.

Jim
From: bobl@bobsbox.rent.com (Bob Lindabury, SysAdmin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Help with SLIP and TCP/IP
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:31:27 GMT
Organization: Raven Enterprises -- Piscataway, NJ USA
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.28 2/25/92 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz

In article <1992Apr7.082022.1530@brandonu.ca> castleaw@brandonu.ca writes:
>I would like to know about slip and tcp/ip (cp?) my sys op tells me that with
>these two programs I can DL straight from Internet to my Amiga SCSI HD. This
>would be most advantagous as it saves me undue amount of time, and sometimes
>I just don't ahve a high enough quota on the Universities Comp to get what I
>want.	Please help me on this one oh laso if this is what I need can you steer
>me to the programs.
>
>Thanks in advance!

I believe the software is called AmigaNOS and is a port of the KA9Q
Internet Protocol Package.  I just picked this up with the source and am
very interested in setting up a SLIP connection.  Does anyone have the
docs as to how to use this software as all I got with the source was a
short readme file for the Amiga on how to set it up.

If there isn't a doc file for it, can someone steer me in the right
direction of a book that will describe SLIP TCP/IP TELNET and all the
other commands available in this package?  Here are the main commands:

Main commands:
   abort	  amiga 	 arp		asystat
   attach	  ax25		 bbs		connect        close
   disconnect	  detach	 domain 	echo	       eol
   escape	  exit		 finger 	ftp	       help
   hopcheck	  hostname	 icmp		ifconfig       ip
   kick 	  less		 log		mailbase       mbox
   mem		  message	 mode		netrom	       nrstat
   nntp 	  param 	 ping		pop	       ps
   record	  remote	 reset		rip	       route
   rspf 	  session	 smtp		socket	       source
   start	  stop		 status 	tcp	       telnet
   trace	  udp		 upload 	?

Now all I need are some docs and someone willing to give me a SLIP
connection to their machine.

-- Bob

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