HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: DUNC@CBRPN1.Prime.COM (Duncan Roe)
Subject: More re: Digital Clock Program
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:37:09 GMT

An alternative to a 92-block EPF to set the pt200 clock:

TYPE ^233:'  '[DATE -TIME]^233\^233$t

(Another alternative: BIND -COMPRESS the EPF ... to 42 blocks!-)

Cheers ... Duncan

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: Nothing of the above reflects official statements of Prime
Computer Inc., nor of Prime Computer of Australia, nor the author's...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: CHUCK@pel.ac.uk (Chuck Foster)
Subject: Re: CONFIG_USERS
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:30:19 GMT

> Config_users uses PRIFORMA. (terminal files located in PRIFORMA*).
> You should have a directory called "Priforma_ix" in the MFD that has a ...

Thanks, I'll have a poke about (its on our Rev23 disk). Its a pity it didn't
try and keep simplistic, like the help database, oh well ... :-)


> cus$open_sad does the same things that edit_profile would do. I.E. if you
> can use edit_profile now, then cus$open_sad would also work.

Right. EDIT_PROFILE gets used in CPL quite a bit, but we have quite a few
of our own utilities that access the SAD directly, for example the initial
attach point; if I were to convert these to using the CUS$ routines I have
the suspicion that they would no longer be usable by non-administrators,
which rather scuppers their use :-(

       Chuck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson)
Subject: Re: Information Request
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
X-Original-Date: 31 Dec 69 23:59:59 GMT
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:50:59 GMT

What kinds of programs? I have some free (GNU, BSD) programs ported
from the Unix world to Prime/PRIMOS available at 'ftp.lysator.liu.se'
in 'pub/primos'. Like, "tar" (gnu), "compress" (bsd), "bison" (gnu yacc),
"grep" (gnu), "diff" (gnu) or an old version of MicroEMACS (dunno if it
compiles at all anymore). There is also a quick port of Suns free 
RPC (version 4.0) library (if you buy NFS from Prime you get their
port of the same thing). This version lacks support of floating point
in the XDR routines (haven't had time to fix that yet). 

/Peter

Peter Eriksson                                              pen@lysator.liu.se
Lysator Academic Computer Society                 ...!uunet!lysator.liu.se!pen
University of Linkoping, Sweden                               Support the LPF!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: CHUCK@pel.ac.uk (Chuck Foster)
Subject: prop -coldstart in shares.comi
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:00:59 GMT

> From: gml4410@uk.co.ggr.uk0x08 (Lack Mr G M)
>
>      It  *can*  include  EMACS  (mine  does)  but  PROP  -Coldstart  (in
> SPOOL.SHARE.COMI) we failed on (but even that might  work  if  you  make
> SYTSEM a .SPOOL_ADMINISTRATOR$ - however, is it worth it?).

Ours worked without any problem, but then SYSTEM is a .SPOOL_ADMINISTRATOR$
here anyway :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: gml4410@uk0x08.ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Subject: Re: CONFIG_USERS
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:09:14 GMT

> Does anyone have any information on what CONFIG_USERS is expecting from the
> VT100 keys (character sequences, scan codes, or whatever).
> .....
> Of course its written in true Prime style and doesn't use TERM* ...

     It  uses  PRIFORMA,  so all you need to do is look in PRIFORMA* for
the relevant files.  You can also build your own terminal drivers:  it's
not dificult. 


> Speaking of the new stuff, do the CUS$OPEN_SAD and CUS$CLOSE_SAD allow
> non-administrators to use them? If not, then that means that there isn't
> much point in using those routines in some of our lookup programs, since
> Computer centre staff will no longer be able to verify that a user has an id
> on the system/attach point exists/groups/etc, etc., let alone update
> passwords for the usual "I've forgotten!"ers.

     As  I  recall  CUS$OPEN_SAD  relies  on  the  ACLs  on SAD, as does
EDIT_PROFILE, so there is no change there. 

 -------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
 The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
 *not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: danw@hobbes (Dan Westerberg)
Subject: Re: HELP: What to do with EXL
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:12:39 GMT

In article <199204131726.AA17159@ant.unx.sas.com> you write:
|> As an owner of this box and holder of a license for the O/S, I have become
|> dissatisfied with Prime port of the AT&T system V.  It does not contain X
|> windows stuff nor does Prime (as far as I know) plan on updating this 
|> version.   I would be interested in talking with others who have experimented
|> with EXLs outside of their original implementations.
|> 

Hi Gantt,

While I can't speak for the quality of the Unix port for the EXL, I am curious
about the X Windows comment.  What exactly is missing for X windows that 
dissatisfies you?

As an unofficial sys admin here in the CPU group, I am the person who maintains
and installs all X Windows software.  We run Sun SPARCstations and unless I'm
way off the mark, there wasn't anything special in SunOS that allowed me to
build X.

I simply downloaded the X distribution from export.lcs.mit.edu, configged the
source, and compiled away.  Now I admit I haven't looked through the entire
config list in the X distribution, but the only thing I could imagine that 
would prevent you from building X would no support for Sys 5 V3.2.  X may
depend on certain BSD-isms, but I really don't know for sure.

Anyways,  I'm just curious why you can't build X.

Dan W.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~  "These walls that still surround me      ~                                 ~
~   Still contain the same old me           ~     Dan Westerberg              ~
~   Just one more who's searching for       ~       danw@hobbes.prime.com     ~
~   The world that ought to be"             ~                                 ~
~                             - Neil Peart  ~  Prime Computer, Framingham, MA ~
~                                           ~                                 ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: Al@TURBO.Kean.EDU (Al Costanzo)
Subject: Re: Sleep.plp
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Organization: Kean College of New Jersey
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:37:09 GMT

Hello:

Yes. Thank You for pointing out the joke which actually is
that I lost the source code to the original sleep.run program
Arrrgh.... Thank God I still have the epf ;-) which is correct...
I hope :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: Slutz@s35.Prime.COM (Donald Slutz, slutz@s35)
Subject: Re: CONFIG_USERS
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:07:24 GMT

Config_users uses PRIFORMA. (terminal files located in PRIFORMA*).
You should have a directory called "Priforma_ix" in the MFD that has a cmdnc0
directory with compile_formkey & modify_formkey.

Run modify_formkey on "priforma*>terminal_files>vt100keys" and you can adjust
your function keys and find out what the send.


cus$open_sad does the same things that edit_profile would do. I.E. if you can
use edit_profile now, then cus$open_sad would also work.

   -Don Slutz
From: akc@pilot.njin.net (Albert K. Costanzo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Re: No response to 50 Series TN3270 Support ..sigh..
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:43:52 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

A few years ago we asked the SSG to write TN3270 for XElink.  We were
quoted a price, if memory serves me of around $10,000 for the port of
the code, and time of engineer.  The reason why it was so costly was
valid and the reason why its low on Prime's hit list is also a good
one.

TN3270 support works great on a pc package like pc-tcp/ip from ftp
software for example.  Prime's current stradegy is to give as many
customers as they can what they want. ie 300 customers want product B
and 125 customers want product A ... Product B moves to the top of the
of things to do... makes sense...  Now if you want Prime to do
something it doesnot plan to do, they will custom write it, but for a
hefty price....

Dave Miner (the Prime employee you speaking of) was a wizard at this
stuff but Dave, along with Rob Ullmann and slews of people don't work
there anymore... Rob Could have written the stuff with his eyes closed
but he didn't, Dave could have written Both sides of DNS instead of
just the resolver BUT he didn't...

My best call would be to offer dave some money to write it for you on
your system (if that does not break any rules) and let him right it.

As a matter of fact how about a newsreader while your at it Dave, I
already asked Rob and did not get an answer yet...

Regards,

al
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: SYS_ADMIN@condor.nepean.uws.edu.au
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 05:22:17 GMT

 id AA00137; Fri, 3 Apr 92 02:07:18 EST for info-prime@blx-a.prime.com
Received: by usenet.rpi.edu (4.1/ST26-USENET);
 id AA08889; Fri, 3 Apr 92 02:06:26 EST for info-prime@blx-a.prime.com
Received: from USENET by usenet.rpi.edu with netnews
 for info-prime@blx-a.prime.com (info-prime@blx-a.prime.com);
 contact usenet@usenet.rpi.edu if you have questions.
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 05:48:33 GMT
Message-id: <red.702280113@ccadfa>
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
X-Mailer: Pr1me Mailer 2.00 (C) 1991, 1992 Michel Pollet & Jac Goudsmit
Subject:  Prime for Sale
Organization: University of Western Sydney,Nepean,New South Wales,Australia.

We have a prime 4050 computer for sale this is about 4 years old and consists
of:
16 Mb memory
2 X 496 Mb hard disks
Primenet card
1600 BPI tape
10 PT200 terminals
Lots of manuals

Any interest ?



____             ____                         Systems Administrator
 /__)  _   /_     /   /_   _   _ _   _   _    University of Western Sydney,
/__)  (_) /__)   /   /  ) (_) / ) ) (_( `-,   Nepean,
------------------------------------------    New South Wales, Australia.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: CHUCK@pel.ac.uk (Chuck Foster)
Subject: HELP files
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:07:20 GMT

Keeping in with my current despondant mood, here's my next quibble:
Why do lines in the HELP files get truncated when format sequences are
added to the line?

If I have a long line ~rlike this~n and I keep ~uadding~n the controls,
I find that I often lose the last couple of characters on the line.

I haven't tried any calculations, but I imagine there is a probable 79/80
character limits on line lengths, and this is truncated by the HELP system,
which unfortunately seems to include the control characters in the total
count for the line. I may be wrong here, but that's my impression.

Hopefully, when (ho ho) the source arrives, I'll look at HELP and remove the
limit (assuming HELP does come with the source, as it did with 22.1). That
reminds me - I can recompile the LOGIN_SERVER then so that it doesn't ask
for passwords when its blank (it doesn't work normally due as we do not allow
null passwords for general users).


Okay, I've been a little critical in my last few messages, but actually I
quite like Rev 23.2 :-)
From: vac+@cs.cmu.edu (Vincent Cate)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Touch
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:18:07 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

I am working on something that is similar to Touch and would very much 
like to get more information on Touch.  Can anyone give me any references, 
or online information, or the name of someone working on Touch?

Information on my system ("Alex") can be FTPed from:

    alex.sp.cs.cmu.edu:doc/intro.ps


Thanks,

   -- Vince


PS  Last time I tried to get info it seemed there were just a few beta 
    users and no documentation yet.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dwatola@praha.jpl.nasa.gov (David A. Watola)
Subject: Re: S - Environment for Data Analysis
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:05:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.182344.14936@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>S/New S and S+( the commercial version from Statistical Sciences) are the
>main data analysis packages for research level statistics. News S has been
> [blah blah blah]...
>You can get more information about S+ from marvin@statsci.com . This is 
>a first rate package. Hopefully NeXT users will look into it. By the way,
>we are talking about something far more powerful than SAS here, although
>the usage of the two is somewhat different.

yes, yes yes.  but where can you get the non-commercial version of s?
From: fl1ger@rrz.de (Ralf  Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mail bug
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:13:53 GMT
Organization: Rhein-Rechenzentrum GmbH, Koblenz, Germany

In article <1992Apr16.052604.25060@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
sorcerer@leland.stanford.edu (Erik Peterson) writes:
> I am using NeXT mail release 2.0 (v62) and I keep coming across a serious  
bug.
> 
> About 20% of the time when I send a message in non-Next mail mode it arrives
> in NeXT mode.
> 
> This wouldn't be any problem if I didn't have to communicate with the
> non-NeXT world but I do....
> 
> Any ideas on this?
> 
> (P.S. I know of other users who have found the same problem, but no solution  
> yet!)
[..]

Well I don't have a solution, but I had the same problem recently and found out  
that any time you enter an character that's not 7-Bit ASCII the mail is  
automaticly changed to NeXTmail (but the button doesn't change) even if you  
delete the charcter later on.
This problem may also appear when you copy sections from NeXTmail to Non-NeXT  
Mail

--
Ralf Weber			E-Mail:	fl1ger@rrz.de
Rhein-Rechenzentrum GmbH	(NeXTMail preferred)
August-Horch-Strasse 28		Voice:	+49 261 892-519
D-W5400 Koblenz, Germany	Fax:	+49 261 892-525
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: How do I make shell prompt show working directory?
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 00:53:02 GMT


In article <1992Apr07.145433.53171@cs.cmu.edu>
cmaeda+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Maeda) writes:

>In article <1992Apr7.120605.26841@macc.wisc.edu>
>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>	alias cd 'cd \!*; doprompt'
>>	alias doprompt 'set prompt="[`hostname`:`whoami`]`dirs|sed -e
>>'\''s/ //'\'' -e 's.~..' -e 's./..'`[\\!] "'

>That's disgusting.  Why do people think firing up sed with
>line noise for arguments every time you change your working
>directory is elegant?  "Many small tools..." "Thousand
>points of light..."

Well, now that you mention it, you *do* sound a little like
George Bush.  But I'm a forgiving kind of guy, and I'm using
the shell I'm using, so you be forgiving too and we'll have
our separate ways.

>You also have to alias pushd and popd.

Did that, thought it was obvious.  So what?

>-- Chris Maeda, Grad Student and RetroGrouch

Not to worry, it's a sorry state that doesn't last forever
(believe me, I was in college for 15 years!).

-- 
Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin
Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu  Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc
Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: new call for votes
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:04:16 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com

Nathan F. Janette writes [and GR reads, despite kill file]:

> Since Jack Reynolds has just joined Glenn Reid at
> RightBrain as VP of sales, the obvious new newsgroup
> would be "comp.sys.next.rightbrain.rtf", which I'm
> sure would come out in every monthly top-ten USENET
> volume listing, second only to the SEF email bounces
> of the same posts.

No, you've got it backwards.  Now that Jack is at RightBrain,
the overall frequency of RTF posts will DECREASE.  We won't
both need to post the same thing, after all :-)

But I like the idea of comp.sys.next.rightbrain.  I'll vote
for it :-)

By the way, I don't foresee any increase/decrease in RTF posting
as a result of the vote against the *.rtf newsgroup.  It mainly
indicates that it's the wrong solution to the problem.

Despite being an avid "multi-media" proponent (not necessarily
RTF, but at least a step up from ASCII) I'm in favor of a mechanism
that permits people who aren't interested in it to restrict its
distribution.  That makes sense.  However, the negative vote
shows an underlying problem that is that postings in different
MEDIA do not necessarily reflect different SUBJECT matter, and
the current newsgroup hierarchies are split by subject.

My feeling is that, in 1 to 4 years, the entire net will migrate
toward richer postings, and the solution will not be to proliferate
*.richtext newsgroups.  The solution will be to tag messages with
an ID that shows that they are "multi-media" and to permit the
"multi" part to be stripped under software control, leaving the ASCII
portion intact.  Then the backbones that do this stripping will fall
into disuse, because everybody will love the typographically rich
formats, and we'll all just live with the bandwith issues.  As it is,
the bandwidth has mostly suffered by the proliferation of people who
read the net, not from software.

--
 Glenn Reid        		NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
 Palo Alto, California		Font Hotline: 800-525-FONT
From: wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Top 10 reasons why you should buy a NeXT instead of an automobile
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:11:05 GMT
Organization: BSO/LT, Baarn, The Netherlands

In <1992Apr14.162550.10954@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@amy5.stanford.edu (Stefano P. Pagiola) writes:

>Gerardo Cisneros writes
>> > > Top 10 reasons why you should buy a NeXT instead of an automobile
>> > >  6. Exhaust isn't fatal
>> > If you consider radiation to be "exhaust" this could be debateable...  
>> :-)
>> Not much to debate, I think:
>> 	a) Work in a closed office for 8 hours with a NeXT running.
>> 	b) Work in a closed garage for 8 hours with an automobile running.
>> Which one is more likely to be fatal?

>The real issue is: Would 
>	c) Work in a closed office for 8 hours with a PC/Windows running
>rank above or below (b)?

PC/Windows is not running most of the time. So I think c would be less fatal
than b, unless the person in question dies of frustration.

Let's give you a quote from direct mail today in my mailbox:

"Dear Sir, Madam,

	With the introduction of MS-Windows, a breakthrough in grafical user
interfaces, ...."

[more on the courses they provide deleted]

Hah!
-- 
wierda@ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) || I speak for myself and not for my employer.
(+31) 2154 84415/(+31) 35 833539  || Support the League for Programming Freedom!
	"If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there."
	Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Cool .dir.tiff/.opendir.tiff (small RTF)
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:34:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

> | Neat TIFFs.  Isn't the preferred method of distributing such  
things
> | though the ftp archives, though...
> | 

> 	Not any more !!   8^)
> 
> 	I love RTF-NewsGrazer ... Keep-em coming gentry!
> 
> 



DITTO!

-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA
M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#DV,%QT>#$Y,C!<='@R.#@P7'1X
M,S@T,%QT>#0X,#!<='@U-S8P7'1X-C<R,%QT>#<V.#!<='@X-C0P7'1X.38P
M,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;#!<9G,R-"`^('P@3F5A="!4249&<RX@($ES;B=T('1H
M92!P<F5F97)R960@;65T:&]D(&]F(&1I<W1R:6)U=&EN9R!S=6-H('1H:6YG
M<UP*/B!\('1H;W5G:"!T:&4@9G1P(&%R8VAI=F5S+"!T:&]U9V@N+BY<"CX@
M?"!<"EP*/B`)3F]T(&%N>2!M;W)E("$A("`@.%XI7`H^(%P*/B`)22!L;W9E
M(%)41BU.97=S1W)A>F5R("XN+B!+965P+65M(&-O;6EN9R!G96YT<GDA7`H^
6(%P*/B!<"EP*7`I<"D1)5%1/(0I]"F5P
`
From: accart@galiote (Stephane Accart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Does Dove really works ?
Keywords: fax, modem, dove
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:52:45 GMT
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France


The Dove fax/modem I installed doesn't work fine ! It opens a few connections,  
then fail, I reboot it, it works two hours more and stop ! See the messages on  
my "console" :

!! %<?>% ----------DoveFax Driver  Version 1.00----------
!! %<?>% DOVE: Tue Apr  7 12:09:19 1992
!! %<?>% DOVE: Send a fax to:044322080
!! %<?>% DOVE: Reset modem control
!! %<?>% DOVE: 	rings to answer:   3
!! %<?>% DOVE: 	tone dial:         0
!! %<?>% DOVE: 	speaker volume:    low
!! %<?>% DOVE: 	speaker dial only: 1
!! %<?>% DOVE: 	local CSI:         44322084
!! %<?>% DOVE: dialphone returns NO DIALTONE
!! %<?>% DOVE: Failure dialing:044322080
!! %<?>% DOVE: Send failed No dial tone
!! %<?>% DOVE: Tue Apr  7 12:09:24 1992
!! %<?>% ----------DoveFax Driver  Version 1.00----------
CS 04/07/92 12:09  0pg   0m 05s No dial tone. rm="                    "  
dial="044322080"

The OS version is 2.1, the phone line is right (a new PABX) of course. Any idea  
somebody ?

--
Stephane Accart
From: stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Barbershop MIME
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:35:21 GMT
Distribution: na

Mark Crispin writes
+ THIS IS A MESSAGE IN 'MIME' FORMAT.  Your news reader does not support
+ MIME.  Perhaps you should get new software.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to tell us what software is available?

James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Let's be friends (was: RightBrain Software to Ship Source Code
Reply-To: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:01:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.221910.20261@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu  
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> In article <12094@tamsun.tamu.edu> cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu (Charles Herrick)  
> writes:
> > Let's try a bit of compromise. Perhaps we can confine the  
> > blatantly-pro-product, feature-listing posts to c.s.n.announce and also  
> > reduce the stridency of the recriminations a bit.
> 
> I don't think the results of the votes have been announced yet.
> 
> What's going on with the vote?   These news groups will solve many
> of these issues we're fighting about.

Since you asked.  The deadline is *TOMORROW* (or today, by the time most of you  
read this).

The final ballot goes in the box Midnight, April 10, Pacific Standard Time.
It'll take me a day or so to check and make sure everything is clean, and send  
the results along to the USENET gods.  Hopefully that means the new groups will  
be created by the end of next week, April 17.

Look in csn.announce or send me mail if you need a ballot.  If you have trouble  
with the regular address, try ernest@cco.caltech.edu

- Ernie P.


--
Ernest N. Prabhakar                  Caltech High Energy Physics
Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
CaJUN President        NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu
"...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 5:13a
#import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc