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From: johnl@forthd.uucp (John Lebert)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Bombing Run on the net was Re: Incredible Universe Store wants ID
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:11:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: forthd.81.2ad9dbe0
 <1992Sep26.142421.28047@wiskit.rain.com> <TROST.92Oct4213708@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu> <1992Oct6.020914.838@techbook.com>
Distribution: or
Organization: Fourth Dimension, Portland OR

In article <1992Oct6.020914.838@techbook.com>, jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele) writes:
> trost@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Bill Trost) writes:
> 
> Someone did to a bunch of sites around the world what FidoNet called 
> a "bombing run": using the maps to hit a bunch of sites with information 
> that the receiving sites hadn't asked for.  I edited this message from
> one angry SysAdmin quite a bit, but I thought it was interesting to see
> a message from the Netherlands that seemed somewhat relevant.  I know
> that at least one of the Scandinavian countries has pretty tight
> restrictions on databases too ...
> 
> Edited Message follows:
> 
> From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
> Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,news.admin.misc
> 
>> I'm not too familiar with US law concerning the gathering of
>> addresses, but it is illegal to have such a database in my country.
>> (I mean, you can have any database you want, but you must register
>> that fact and than there are some rules about having to
>> consent to being in the database, government exempted as always).
> 
> Jeeze, there goes my Christmas list!   :-)
> 
> --
> jamesd@techbook.COM    Voice: +1 503 223-4245
> PDaXs gives free access to news & mail. (503) 220-0636 - 1200/2400, N81  
> "When databases are outlawed, only outlaws will have databases."

 Someone in Georgia wrote a program that colleted mail address from selected
 newsgroups. They then used the list to do a mass mailing of a COMMERCIAL
 advertisement. The "bombing run" was people sending mail back saying that
 they didn't appreciate getting junk mail on a network that is not to be 
 used for commercial advertising. Only about 15 people sent back copies
 of "War & Peace" to help fill up the senders mailbox. The rest were just
 what you would expect from everyone - "What you are doing is wrong & don't
 send me anything again." It still added about 5 meg of mail to their system.
 Tough shit.
-- 
 John Lebert       Internet: johnl@forthd
 Fourth Dimension                     
 Portland, Oregon
Newsgroups: or.general
From: charlesw@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Charles Wilson)
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:35:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: sail.12711
Followup-To: or.general
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Oct12.193655.9785@reed.edu> sharvy@reed.edu (V Headshape) writes:
>In article <1992Oct11.191655.6066@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>
>
>The story of Soddom & Gomorrah, oft cited by crusaders as proof that
>God disapproves of homosexuality, suggests some additional, not oft
>cited, Biblical values.
>
>So, family value #1: having your virgin daughters gang-raped (by
>Sodomists, no less).  Being a good host is very important in Hebrew
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 What is wrong with sodimists?  You sound quite homo-phobic!

>So, Family Value #2: incest is OK in some cases, e.g., if it results

I didn't read in this passage anything about family values or that
any of this activity was approved by God.  In fact a great deal
of what is in the Bible is activity that God does NOT approve of.  Why
do you think the Isrealites where in captivity in Egypt and then 
in the desert for 40 years?  Did you ever see the classic film "The
10 Commandments?"  It didn't look to me like God was happy with those
Bible folks.

The only person worth emulating in the Bible is Jesus.  The rest of
them were a pretty sorry lot.  Any different than today?

>These anectodtes are especially useful as ammo against anti-gay
					   ^^^^^^^^^^^^
					   You're sounding like a
					   hate-monger.  What 
					   happened to acceptance?

>crusaders, because these people will invariably cite the Soddom &
>Gomorrah story.
>
>-- 
>Liberate the Weirdoes and You Liberate the Squares

How?
From: denisec@amadeus.wr.tek.com (Denise Caire)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Strange Juxtaposition of Arguments in Favor
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:14:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: wrgate.10766
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

I finally picked up the voter's pamphlet to browse through the measures
last night and thought the position of the Mabon stance next to the 
Leviticus (sp?) satire was interesting, to say the least.  Wonder how
much the OCA likes that?  Was this intentional or just coincidence?
(Or, has this already been noticed?)  Anyway, it was very strange to
read them side by side like that.  Made me laugh outright at the
absurdity of it all.
From: prk@cie.uoregon.edu (Peter R. Knox)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Mainstream Oregon
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:06:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp.1992Oct14.220655.26004
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange

Mainstream Oregon
1742 Skyline Blvd
Eugene, OR 97403
Jeff Osanka, President

For too long we were silent as the OCA pursued the politics of division. 
We believed Oregonians would reject their attempts to extend their
prejudice.  The OCA's victory in Springfield has shaken us out of our
complacency.  We must act now to persuade mainstream Oregonians to reject
the OCA's BNallot Measure 9.

As Republicans we share a special resesponsibility.  The OCA has chosen to
insinuate itself into our party.  Many Oregonians now automatically equate
Republicans and the OCA.

In fact, mainstream Republicans oppose the OCA nd especially Ballot
Measure 9.

* Mainstream Republicans believe, like Barbara Bush,m that abortion and
homosexuality are personal matters that should be left out fo the
Republican Party Platform.

* Mainstream Republicasns believe, like the Associated Oregon Industries
(the premier business lobbying group in Oregon), that discrimination
initiaves like Measure 9 are bad for business and that "government has
enough to do without regulating the personal behavior of individuals in
the privacy of thir own homes and lives -- provided that personal behavior
inflicts no harm on others."

*{Mainstream Repoublicans believe, as Americans, that family values are a
matter of trust, and they trust families to make difficult ppersonal choices.

Mainstream Oregon was orghanized to represent those no longer interested
in the gridlocked politics of the left or the right.  We represent
traditional conservatives and moderates who accept thir individual
differences in order to support basic Republican principles of less
government.  We oppose all those who want to increase government
bureaucracy and intervention.

We urge all mainstream Oregonians to speak out and work to defeat Ballot
Measure 9.

Authorized by Mainstream oregon, 1742 Skyline Blvd, Eugene, OR 97403
From: hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal F Lillywhite)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:20:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: vice.10536
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

In article <1992Oct13.191213.18014@reed.edu> sharvy@reed.edu (V Headshape) writes:
>In article <10533@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal F Lillywhite) writes:

>>Actualy this seems more to be a couple of "undercover investigators"
>>sent to see if the sin of the cities is really as bad as God thinks
>>it is (see Gen 18:20-22).  The rescue of Lot seems to be almost an
>>afterthought.

>Completely wrong.  God has decided to destroy Soddom, but agreed (to
>Abraham) that he will not "destroy the righteous with the wicked."
>The angels are sent to determine which citizens of Soddom are "the
>righteous" and they find Lot.  The rescue is not an afterthought; it
>is central to the plot and the theme of how God protects those who
>obey Hebraic laws and customs.  And what do you mean "to see if {it}
>is really as bad as God thinks it is"??  Recall what "God" means,
>please: God doesn't send "agents" to see if he's wrong.

Obviously you did not even bother to read the reference I gave.  God
says he will go down and see if is as bad as "the cry thereof."
This is even before Abraham begins to negotiate about the
destruction.

If you want to discuss this, first do some reading, then I will be
glad to discuss it with you (preferably off line - I don't think
this discussion belongs in this newsgroup).

>>So Lot offered his daughters.  So what?  That indicates a gross error 
>>(to say the least) on his part.  However nothing in this account 
>>indicates that he was right in doing so.  This is a simple account of 
>>what happened, not a statement of what is right and wrong.

>I just finished posting another reply to this point.  Offering
>daughters & wives to others for sex is customary among the Biblical
>tribes of Israel. I would think that it would disqualify Lot as a
>member of "the righteous." 

You just finished a posting but not a convincing one.  You simply
made a blatent assertion backing it up with only another similar
example of someone offering a concubine in order to prevent a
homosexual rape.  Furthermore this occured (Judges 18-19) during one
of Israel's darker periods and seems to be just another example of
how depraved they had become (along with Levites leading idol
worship ect.).  Hardly a recommendation for such behavior.

By the way, didn't you edit my posting a bit much?  You left out the
part about how Lot didn't approve of his daughters' idea.  Otherwise
they would not have had to get him drunk to do it.  You also left
out the part about how their descendents became perpetual enemies to
Israel, not the "righteous" tribes you call them.
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From: mike@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Michael John Haertel)
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:46:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: majestix.MIKE.92Oct13084643
	<4843@n7kbt.rain.com> <1992Oct12.142824.359@kentrox.uucp>
Organization: CS Dept, University of Oregon

In article <1992Oct12.142824.359@kentrox.uucp> dave@kentrox.uucp (Dave Read) writes:
>Oh yeah, it's a scream.  I can't wait to see whose religious beliefs they're
>going to mock next - Jews? Muslims? Hindus?

Geeze, relax a little dude.  The only "religious belief" they're mocking
is blind bigotry.

My parents, both very sincere Christians, thought it was hilarious.
From: dave@kentrox.uucp (Dave Read)
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Organization: ADC Kentrox, Portland OR
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:28:24 GMT

In article <4843@n7kbt.rain.com> john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko) writes:
>In article <1992Oct11.191655.6066@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>>Look for petitions for too more constitutional amendments soon.
>> ...
>>Things like "if your brother dies, it is your duty to impregnate your
>>brother's wife". This stuff is important to teach our children.
>
>Oooo, I *love* guerrilla warfare!
>
>This thing is priceless.  Hee, hee.
>
>-- 
>John Opalko
>
>john@n7kbt.rain.com  -or-  wi.5327@n7kbt.rain.com


Oh yeah, it's a scream.  I can't wait to see whose religious beliefs they're
going to mock next - Jews? Muslims? Hindus?

-- 
| David Read                        | ADC Kentrox Industries          | 
| P.O. Box 10704                    | Portland, OR  97210             |
| 800-733-5511 x263                 | dave@kentrox.com                |
|               "Me transmittem sursum, Caledoni."                    |
From: dlc@gasco.uucp (Darci L. Chapman)
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:33:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: gasco.1992Oct13.193337.24309
Reply-To: dlc@gasco.com (Darci L. Chapman)
Organization: Northwest Natural Gas, Portland, OR

dave@kentrox.uucp (Dave Read) writes:
> john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko) writes:
> >
> >Oooo, I *love* guerrilla warfare!
> >
> >This thing is priceless.  Hee, hee.
> >
> Oh yeah, it's a scream.  I can't wait to see whose religious beliefs they're
> going to mock next - Jews? Muslims? Hindus?

I don't think the point is/was to *mock* anybody's religious beliefs.
The point is, if we start legislating "laws" from the Bible, where do
stop? Should we stop? And what about other holy books/sources? Which
ones do we enact if they're in conflict?

And more importantly, what about freedom *from* religion?

If you're a practicing Christian or whatever, nothing currently stops you
from practicing those beliefs *for yourself*. But I don't think we should
necessarily impose those beliefs on everybody else or teach that those
are the only correct beliefs.

>>-Darci->
From: bobb@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:06:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: vice.10538
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <12718@sail.LABS.TEK.COM> charlesw@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Charles Wilson) writes:
>
>Boy, you sound just as bigoted and hateful as measure 9 supporters.  
>Maybe you should consider drafting your own version of measure 9.  Change
>one or two of the words above and you _have_ measure 9:
>
>And more importantly, what about freedom *from* homosexuality?

  Yeah, I can just see those militant homosexuals with their gay
  rights agenda (did I get the right wing rhetoric correct?) lining
  up outside your door with small arms to coerce you into practicing
  their lifestyle.  And every time you turn your back, guess what?
  They're recruiting your children, your aging grandmother, and your
  dog.  

>
>If you're a practicing homosexual or whatever, nothing currently stops you
>from practicing those beliefs *for yourself*. But I don't think we should
>necessarily impose those beliefs on everybody else or teach that those
>are the only correct beliefs.

  How do you impose a belief on someone else unless you force them
  to either adopt or practice that belief?  Homosexuality is a fact 
  of life, one that I expect my children to be exposed to just like
  heterosexuality.  Who exactly is spouting that homosexuality is
  the only correct belief?  Most of the homosexuals I know are far
  more tolerant than the heterosexuals.

  You can teach that homosexuals are perverse in the schools.  I
  will teach that imposition of bigotry (and by association)
  frothing fundamentalism is also perverse.  Sounds like a wash to me.

>
>Think about it!!
 
 I have.  Apparently more than you.

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 

Bob Beauchaine bobb@vice.ICO.TEK.COM 

Bush:  No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor
       should they be considered patriots.  This is one nation under God.
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From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:37:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Oct14.063721.16095
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Distribution: or
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

dlc@gasco.com  (Darci L. Chapman) writes:

>In article <BvywJK.BAC@percy.rain.com>, sarge@percy.rain.com (Rod Sargent) writes:

>>     I agree that we should OPPOSE SPECIAL RIGHTS...but lets not
>>     deprive others of GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!  VOTE NO ON 9!

>What "special rights" are you referring to? And how do you define
>"god given rights"?

>I would really like to know because in my mind these words/phrases
>are awfully vague and broad and different people define these
>differently. 

Read the ACLU's argument *against 9. Article I section 20 of the Oregon 
constitution seems to do a good job of denying "special" rights.\

-- 
Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
FIDO:   1:105/51	 Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
(The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
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From: charlesw@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Charles Wilson)
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:22:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: sail.12708
Followup-To: or.general
Distribution: or
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Oct10.024506.21962@wiskit.rain.com> herbw@wiskit.rain.com (Herb Weiner) writes:
>I urge anyone who has not yet decided how to vote on measure 9
>to read the ARGUMENT IN FAVOR furnished by M. Dennis Moore

I have read this argument.  So what's your point?  It is obviously a
fictitious organization.  An obviously fictitious argument.  It does
not do much to _help_ the No on 9 effort.  A bit embarrassing, I'd
say.
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
From: batie@agora.rain.com (Alan Batie)
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Distribution: or
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:36:39 GMT

johnl@pcx.ncd.com (John Light) writes:
> >Did anyone notice how many of the ARGUMENTS IN OPPOSITION were submitted
> >directly or indirectly by our own Alan Batie?
> 
> >Talk about putting your money where your mouth is!

"our own"? :-)

It was mostly an accident of circumstance and being involved with a
couple of different groups...
-- 
Alan Batie                               \
batie@agora.rain.com                      \       Vote NO on Discrimination
+1 503 452-0960                          / \      Vote NO on 9!
45 28 59 N / 122 43 20 W / 440' MSL     /   \
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
From: jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Reply-To: jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Distribution: or
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:09:28 GMT

al@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Alan Peterman) writes:

>The "Special Righteousness Committee" arguement is a blast!  It's GOT
>to be a joke.  After all, anyone who wants to pay $300 can get anything
>they wish to write into the pamphlet.  This is TOO silly to be real.

I've heard (second-hand) that the article was submitted by some no-on-9
group that wanted to prove how absurd the measure is.

They did a heck of a job. :-)

	-Jeff
-- 
Jeff Beadles		jeff@onion.rain.com
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From: sarge@percy.rain.com (Rod Sargent)
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:28:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: percy.BvywJK.BAC
Distribution: or
Organization: Percy's mach, Portland, OR

In article <1992Oct10.024506.21962@wiskit.rain.com> herbw@wiskit.rain.com (Herb Weiner) writes:
>I urge anyone who has not yet decided how to vote on measure 9
>to read the ARGUMENT IN FAVOR furnished by M. Dennis Moore
>of the Special Righteousness Committee.  (This is the third
>Argument in the Clackamas County Edition of the Oregon Voter's
>Pamphlet.  I don't know if the order of Arguments varies by
>county.)  Perhaps this argument should even be read by those
>who have already decided how they are going to vote.
>
>PLEASE, no flames until AFTER you have read the argument.
>
>Herb

     Perhaps this argument should have been included in the section for
    "Arguments in Opposition."

     If this is sincere, God help us all; if this is facetious, observe
      the reductio ad absurdum such discriminatory measures as this one
      can (and often do) result in....

    I agree that we should OPPOSE SPECIAL RIGHTS...but lets not
    deprive others of GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!  VOTE NO ON 9!


-- 
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
 ...!tektronix!percy!sarge     |  Opinions other than mine own are 
 ...!sun!nosun!percy!sarge     |  of little consequence...after all,
   sarge@percy.rain.com        |  I am always right!
From: dlc@gasco.uucp (Darci L. Chapman)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:19:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: gasco.1992Oct12.231933.17817
Distribution: or
Organization: Northwest Natural Gas, Portland, OR

In article <12708@sail.LABS.TEK.COM>, charlesw@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Charles Wilson) writes:
> In article <1992Oct10.024506.21962@wiskit.rain.com> herbw@wiskit.rain.com (Herb Weiner) writes:
> >I urge anyone who has not yet decided how to vote on measure 9
> >to read the ARGUMENT IN FAVOR furnished by M. Dennis Moore
> 
> I have read this argument.  So what's your point?  It is obviously a
> fictitious organization.  An obviously fictitious argument.  It does
> not do much to _help_ the No on 9 effort.  A bit embarrassing, I'd
> say.

Wrong on all four accounts.

The group really does exist.

The argument comes directly from the bible (which I suppose some might 
consider fiction but I wouldn't let the OCA hear you say that ;-)

It helped me!  (I needed a good laugh :-)

And I certainly was not embarassed. There a lot of different kinds
of groups opposed to measure 9; no one argument against 9 could be
considered representative of all them. So just who is  supposed
to be embarassed? The OCA? I hope so!

>>-Darci->

  Darci L. Chapman    \   Northwest Natural Gas   /   Honor Diversity
   X Window Systems    \    Portland, Oregon     /   Not Bigotry
    Consultant          \    dlc@gasco.com      /   Vote NO on Measure 9
 
"The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man or a woman." W. Rogers
Xref: sparky or.general:617 pdx.general:1223
From: dlc@gasco.com (Darci L. Chapman)
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:08:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: gasco.1992Oct13.000840.18251
Distribution: or
Organization: Northwest Natural Gas, Portland, OR

In article <BvywJK.BAC@percy.rain.com>, sarge@percy.rain.com (Rod Sargent) writes:

>     I agree that we should OPPOSE SPECIAL RIGHTS...but lets not
>     deprive others of GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!  VOTE NO ON 9!

What "special rights" are you referring to? And how do you define
"god given rights"?

I would really like to know because in my mind these words/phrases
are awfully vague and broad and different people define these
differently. 

>>-Darci->

--

  Darci L. Chapman    \   Northwest Natural Gas   /   Honor Diversity
   X Window Systems    \    Portland, Oregon     /   Not Bigotry
    Consultant          \    dlc@gasco.com      /   Vote NO on Measure 9
 
"The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man or a woman." W. Rogers
From: charlesw@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Charles Wilson)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:12:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: sail.12717
Distribution: or
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.


>In article <1992Oct12.193655.9785@reed.edu> sharvy@reed.edu (V Headshape) writes:

>The actions I described are condoned in the Bible -- they go
>unpunished and are considered proper in Biblical culture.

Because an act goes unpunished does _not_ mean it is condoned.  They
may have been accepted by the people of the Bible, but certainly not
by God.  Again, all the people of the Bible are people who did _not_
live up to God's standards, except for one -- Jesus (and He in turn
was not accepted by many of the people of the Bible).

As I said, most of what is in the Bible are descriptions of people that
did not do what God commanded...

>Offering your daughters for sex to people (especially honored guests)
>was common, and occurs in other Biblical passages.  In fact there is
>another story where an unfaithful concubine is offered to a mob for
>sex, and the mob rapes and abuses her all night, finally killing her; only
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From: john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko)
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general
Subject: Re: Measure 9 Voter's Pamphlet Argument
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:15:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: n7kbt.4843
Organization: Two strange people in Forest Grove, OR

In article <1992Oct11.191655.6066@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>Look for petitions for too more constitutional amendments soon.
> ...
>Things like "if your brother dies, it is your duty to impregnate your
>brother's wife". This stuff is important to teach our children.

Oooo, I *love* guerrilla warfare!

This thing is priceless.  Hee, hee.

-- 
John Opalko

john@n7kbt.rain.com  -or-  wi.5327@n7kbt.rain.com
Newsgroups: or.general,pdx.general