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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 92 16:20:33 IST
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar" <itiez@CCSG.TAU.AC.IL>
Subject:      Re: hardening counters
Comments: To: Nota Bene List <NOTABENE@VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

I have tested XyQuest's XPL pgm for 'hardening' counters; I think
it was Anthony Woozley who has distributed it. I remember there
were many difficulties with it, but I am afraid I don't remember
which.

BTW, XPL for XyWrite and NB is basically the same. However,
NB's extra files, esp. NB 3.1 and 4.0, have added functions
not available to XyWriters. Detailed docs about XPL please
find in NB-XPL01.ZIP.

Itamar E-Z

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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 92 10:40:22 EST
From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      NB Icon for OS/2 2.0
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

Following is my crude OS/2 icon for Notabene.  It is zipped and
xx-encoded.  To use it, first xx-decode this message, then unzip the
file nb.zip.  Place the resulting nb.ico file in your Notabene program
directory, and it will be automatically associated with the program.

Enjoy!
Paul

section 1 of xxencode 5.15 of file nb.zip    by R.E.M.

begin 644 nb.zip
hI2g1-+c++++4+3Gmv-Uj2GLMu++++D61+++4++++HY6iGIBD1k+G+mEJBWQs
hCKdvH7pi5kY4+FAotTOKxsI4tR6ADnGdYq852CnmXVr6g6As7UA2anUDw1I+
hyzzzTpL1-eUOAGnC2n0b-QEX6JEBo+2FYs0EGI1AV511AqTCfCvoNbo9AjqD
haTk5HEI1nih93UlsEq1EM-Z2kn6+RsMApZ3yQs1+c93XYY3J-3Qsg5CWO7FR
h1KpKkkUx+5sg8+2utfFAvBRpnLYLD+-kWdZWqicaUGqhnC+FLEipOIaWljP3
hLAt0zFjNVFgopXIB5A+rdaxYNZt2+hh5eFb96rVUTm5s182b41E0Yi61M3-9
h+E69++c++++4+3Gmv-Uj2GLMu++++D61+++4++++++++++++6+++++++++-C
PEWt7EoxEGkI4++++++2++E+o++++1+2+++++
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sum -r/size 46228/342 entire input file
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:10:40 IST
From:         Michael Dick <DICK@SIENA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NB4 Deprovements
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I'll have to ask you OED people whether I'm the parent of the neologism
"deprovement"; as any proud father I'm all atingle. Has anybody marked on the
irony: Now that we have bugs galore, the Dragonfly has gone away. I shall stick
with NB4 because I like Lingua; besides since I got into my esoteric academic
field with no interest in anything earlier than 500 B.C.E., I'm not the type to
adopt the WP program used by the majority. I wish I could convince my wife to
move over from NB3 so that I could reclaim that disk space! She says she needs
a version that she can work on with SoftwareBridge for workplace conversions.
        Michael Dick
        DICK@SIENA
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From:         robert kelly F <rkelly3@MACH1.WLU.CA>
Subject:      Re: NB4 Deprovements
Comments: To: "Nota Bene E-mail Group" <notabene@taunivm.tau.ac.il>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

The fact of having to go through layer upon layer of menus should be no
reason not to recommend NB 4 to WP 5 or 5.1 users.  Both of these programs
use the layered menu approach.  Have you ever tried to print to a disk
file in WP?  It's a little more complicated than F9 printd filename filename
F10.
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 92 10:52:40 -0500
From:         "M. Roy Harris" <mrh3b@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: real words
Comments: To: Nota Bene List <NOTABENE%taunivm.BITNET@Virginia.EDU>
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Checking the online OED, one finds 56 instances of a very good
English word which fits, I should think, admirably the phenomenon
being discussed here as a "deprovement", a term which hold no
attraction for me. The word I suggest is "retrogradation" which
which means essentially 'the act of taking a step backwards'.

Roy Harris - University of Virginia
mrh3b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU, mrh3b@Virginia.Bitnet
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:08:02 EST
Reply-To:     walshj@sjuvm.stjohns.edu
From:         "Jerome T. Walsh" <walshj@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Printing multiple copies
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

In Message Wed, 16 Dec 92 14:55:36 -0500,
  "Thomas O. Mammoser" <tom9e@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU> writes:

>Has anyone had the following problem?
>
>Using a Toshiba P321SL, when I ask NB4 to print two copies of the
>same letter, it only prints one.

I have been unable to print multiple copies of documents in NB4, nor have I
been able to print page ranges.  No matter what page numbers I put in the
page range blanks on the menu, the entire document gets printed.  Very
displeasing...
==========================================================================
Jerome T. Walsh                          walshj@sjuvm.stjohns.edu.internet
Dept. of Theology and Religious Studies                walshj@sjuvm.bitnet
St. John's University                                (718) 990-6161 x 5432
Grand Central & Utopia Parkways                       FAX:  (718) 380-3803
Jamaica, New York  11439                              msgs: (718) 476-2126
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"I love being a writer.  It's the paperwork I can't stand." -- Dan Simmons
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 92 13:19:39 CST
From:         GA3662@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject:      Doubles again, again
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

Yes, also only from Itamar.  But then he ought to get paid
double time for the work he's been doing for us anyway.
                                        Geoff Nathan
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:30:06 EST
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From:         "Jerome T. Walsh" <walshj@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Text-Blocks:Boilerplate
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

Perhaps I have not understood Mervyn Bennun's problem with bringing existing
address files into a document.  Is this something other than the "merge"
utility?  I keep my letterhead in a file, and when I am composing a letter I
simply "Merge" the letterhead file into the document (using F1-File-Merge).
It works perfectly in NB4, as it did in NB3.1.
==========================================================================
Jerome T. Walsh                          walshj@sjuvm.stjohns.edu.internet
Dept. of Theology and Religious Studies                walshj@sjuvm.bitnet
St. John's University                                (718) 990-6161 x 5432
Grand Central & Utopia Parkways                       FAX:  (718) 380-3803
Jamaica, New York  11439                              msgs: (718) 476-2126
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"I love being a writer.  It's the paperwork I can't stand." -- Dan Simmons
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:57:58 GMT
From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: separators, NB, Orbis
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene
              University of Helsinki," at Dec 18, 92 10:31 pm

J-P (and anyone else interested),

I got the separator lines from someone months ago before NB4 - I think
it was Rob Braham or Ken Bodin - who told us that it could go into NB4
too quite safely. In fact, I think it was admitted that its omission
was an error. But when it was originally distributed on the network,
we were reminded to add the hyphen. I have reloaded NB4 several times
and housekeeping might have been a bit untidy, and it is thus possible
that the hyphen got left out from the word-separator line. Try adding
it and see what happens.

J-P, my nerves are twitching a bit. Are you telling us that you can
spell-check __Finnish__???????! ;-)
 ---------------
Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:15:49 EST
From:         McClelland_R%PSB%BLS@NIH3PLUS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: fractal dimension of time series

|Date: 12-14-92  8:03am
|From: McClelland_R:PSB:BLS
|  To: FRAC-L@GITVM1:BITNET:NIH
|  cc: xum@nihcu:bitnet:nih
|Subj: Re: fractal dimension of time series
|In-Reply-To: Message from FRAC-L@GITVM1:BITNET of 12-9-92
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>I didn't think that a real test for chaos was usually possible: all of
>the conditions (finite dimension, low entropy, nonlinear dependence,
>etc.) are necessary, but not sufficient. The one exception is
>if a three-period cycle shows up, but it almost never does. Is the
>Theiler et. al. stuff a test for chaos of any type, or of just the type
>created in the surrogate data?
>Rob McClelland

Sure, I think there is no numerical evidence for chaos, all what can be
estimated are the necessary conditions only. To formulate more precisely
my above remark - one should used some test for nonlinearity to test
for nonlinearity as the necessary condition for chaos and thus to decide
whether the chaotic nature of the studied time series is possible or
a linear stochastic process is a hypothesis consistent with the data.
The stuff of Theiler et al. tests the null hypothesis - the data is
the result of the same process as the surrogate - usually linear
stochastic process (some special types of surrogate data are possible
-e.g. linear process passed through a static nonlinearity). If the
null hypothesis is rejected, nonlinear and even chaotic character
of the data is possible.
Again, as dimensional algorithms, some authors interpret the Theiler's
test as an evidence for chaos.

I guess that several hundreds (if not thousands) of papers of the type
"Evidence for chaos in ...... by estimating finite correlation
(pointwise, information) dimension (positive Lyapunov exponent)"
were published last 6-8 years. I am affraid the if the authors had been
more careful not only in formal logic (i.e. necesary vs. sufficient condi-
tions) but also in testing reliability of their algorithms,
low dimensional chaos would be significantly more rare phenomenon
than it is usually claimed by enthusiastic chaos fans.

Milan Palus
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OK, if you REALLY want to make a claim of chaos, this might do it:

1)  For a given data set, do some sort of 'nonlinear' parametric
    regression with deterministic and stochastic components
    for which the relationship is chaotic for some parameter levels.
2)  Estimate a nonlinear stochastic relationship (eg Autoregressive
    Conditional Heteroskedasticity).
3)  Compare out of sample predictions for each estimation. If the
    deterministic regression predicts better, then
4)  See if the parameter estimates are insignificantly different from
    those associated with chaos. If they are, then you can claim that
    you are unable to reject the hypothesis that the data is chaotic.

Does this seem right?

Rob McClelland
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 12:14:00 PDT
From:         GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET
Subject: Re: FTP help ,,,, one more time :-) hopefully last :-)

        I don't have FTP, and have a bitnet only connection.  I know
how to use a few mail servers that work entirely via mail.  We should be
getting an Internet connection for the VAXen.  Perhaps then what you sent
will make more sense.

Joe>
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:40:28 +0000
From:         mtaylor@DCS.QMW.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Image Compression......
              Ricker" at Dec 11, 92 11:39:40 am

The basis for fractal image compression, as far as I
know, is Iterated Function Systems.
I am working on my own implementation at the moment,
though there is quite some work to be done yet.
I got my information via a paper by one
Yuval Fisher. Available by Anonymous FTP from :

lyapunov.ucsd.edu [132.239.86.10]
in /pub/inls-ucsd/fractal-2.0

I believe the directory is tar'd up now to aid
downloading.

Good Luck

Matt.
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:58:16 GMT
From:         adam s nealis <adam@BC.RFHSM.LON.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: FTP help ,,,, one more time :-) hopefully last :-)
              92 2:14 pm

>
> Try uuencode inplace of netdata. Then you will receive the file as
> uuencoded file. If it comes in pieces, put them together using an
> editor. You can then transfer the file to yr pc using kermit as text file
> and on the pc end run uudecode and unzip the resulting zip file. For
> uudecode, check in wuarchive.wustl.edu under the starters directory under
> msdos.
> Hope this helps you,
>
I'm sure it would, provided uudecode is kept as a uue file on the archive!


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|Mail: adam@s1.rfhsm.lon.uk.ac               Voice: (UK) 071 794 0500 x4914|
|      adam@bc.rfhsm.lon.uk.ac                 Fax: (UK) 071 794 9645      |
|Snail: Adam S. Nealis, Dept Biochemistry &                                |
|       Chemistry, RFHSM, Rowland Hill Street,                             |
|       London NW3 2PF, ENGLAND.                                           |
|__________________________________________________________________________|
|  "I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired   |
|     of being told that right-thinking people in this country are sick    |
|      and tired.  I'm certainly not: and I'm sick and tired of being      |
|                            told that I am."                              |
|__________________________________________________________________________|
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:24:55 -0500
From:         "Christopher W. Johnson" <johnsocw@LOGIC.CAMP.CLARKSON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Image Compression......

        I have been studying fractal image compresion off and on for the
past few months.  This is a very interesting programming project with
practical implications.  The image compression ratio for this method is
incredible compared with today's standards.  Anyway here are the best sources
that I have found-

        "Recursive Images" Janke, Stephen   Dr. Dobb's Journal  July 1991
        "A Better Way to Compress Images"  Barnsley, Michael and Sloan, Alan
                                        Byte  Jan 1988
        _Fractals Everywhere_ Barnsley, Michael   1988

If anyone knows of any more good sources, please share them!!!!

Christopher Johnson
Clarkson University  Box 6890
Potsdam, NY 13699

johnsocw@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:30:28 CST
From:         C1876@UMSLVMA.BITNET
Subject:      Contact Information

I am looking for contact information for certain specific authors and
fractal journals, and would greatly appreciate it if some individuals on
the net would volunteer to provide me such information.

Journals (I will summarize these to the net):

Computers and Graphics
Scientific American
Mandala

Authors (by each author, I mention one or more books, articles, etc):

James Gleick
"Chaos"
H.O. Peitgen
"The Beauty of Fractals"
M. Schroeder
"Fractals, Chaos, and Power Laws"
R. Devaney
"Chaos and Fractals"
J. Feder
"Fractals"
Gerald A. Edgar
"Measure, Topology, and Fractal Geometry"
A.K. Dewdney
Computer Recreations Scientific American
"The Armchair Universe"

I would like thank those who provide assistance in advance.
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:39:00 -0600
From:         Milan Palus <mp@CCSR.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      to list owner

I am sorry for sending this message to the list, but:
a) I am registered as mp@complex.ccsr.uiuc.edu and in present my
address is generated as mp@ccsr.uiuc.edu, so I cannot unsubscribe automatically,
b) I have sent a request to the owner's address directly, but i was returned
as undeliverable mail
so
I woul like to ask the owner to unsubscribe me (mp@complex.ccsr.uiuc.edu)
by this public way, since I am moving to different place.
Thank you very much in advance.
M. Palus
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:04:53 CST
From:         C1876@UMSLVMA.BITNET
Subject:      fractal gurus

I would like to thank the following people for providing me assistance
in obtaining contact informations for Clifford Pickover and Benoit
Mandelbrot in my recent query about people who are well known in the
fractal community:

Yishao Lai
david fowler

Since I also received a suggestion that the fractal 'gurus' probably
would not appreciate me publicly posting their addresses, I have decided
I should withhold my summary to the net.

Terry Koyn
From: lsonko@pearl.tufts.edu (THIS GUY WALKS INTO A BAR)
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Subject: compressing gifs
Keywords: compression gifs
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:36:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

someone wanted to know how to compress gifs here are some suggestions

(get em FTP..)

giflite    very nice..  it compresses gifs about 30% and leaves them in a 
		gif form.  You'l hardly notice the difference in pix quality
		excellent for weather maps, complex images, & anything!!
 		bad (evil..bleck bleck) for fractint images... well, try it
			out.. they're actually kind of 'interesting'

jpeg       it compresses into an unreadable format (like zip does)
		excellant for scanned images and less complicated
		images (compression 20%-80% on some!!)

on both, beware, perfectly straight lines and perfectly dithered shades 
will come out with a more 'fuzzy' look or be crooked.

this description will probably insult the intelligence of some more advanced
users.. I am NOT aiming this message at you.. just trying to be helpful
to beginners with the limited time that exams looming over your head affords.

enjoy
lee
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From:         GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET
Subject: Re: FTP help ,,,, one more time :-) hopefully last :-)

>>
>> Try uuencode inplace of netdata. Then you will receive the file as
>> uuencoded file. If it comes in pieces, put them together using an
>> editor. You can then transfer the file to yr pc using kermit as text file
>> and on the pc end run uudecode and unzip the resulting zip file. For
>> uudecode, check in wuarchive.wustl.edu under the starters directory under
>> msdos.
>> Hope this helps you,
>>

>I'm sure it would, provided uudecode is kept as a uue file on the archive!

Not so. Uuencoding takes a binary file and makes ascii text out of it for
mailers and transfer protocols that only handle ascii text.  The file
can be stored as a .zip file on the host, or a .exe, or whatever.
You will need uudecode.exe for MSDOS.  To get this, you may find a
uudecode.c in ascii text format.  You could probably write a uudecode.exe
yourself.  6 binary bytes are converted to 8 ascii bytes in the encoding
process. ( Some offset added ).  I got source for Fractint17.2.zip
uuencoded, and was able to decode it and unzip it, then compiled, linked, and
ran it.  A program worth hundreds of bux for free! and so much fun.
>____________________________________________________________________________
>|Mail: adam@s1.rfhsm.lon.uk.ac               Voice: (UK) 071 794 0500 x4914|
>|      adam@bc.rfhsm.lon.uk.ac                 Fax: (UK) 071 794 9645      |
>|Snail: Adam S. Nealis, Dept Biochemistry &                                |
>|       Chemistry, RFHSM, Rowland Hill Street,                             |
>|       London NW3 2PF, ENGLAND.                                           |
>|__________________________________________________________________________|
>|  "I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired   |
>|     of being told that right-thinking people in this country are sick    |
>|      and tired.  I'm certainly not: and I'm sick and tired of being      |
>|                            told that I am."                              |
>|__________________________________________________________________________|
I'm just sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Better to be tired here than 'Tired' in South Africa...
OK, so it's not funny.
Gladstone  <GLADSTONE@CSMC.MVAX.BITNET>
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 11:39:40 CST
From:         Ben Ricker <S954161@UMSLVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Image Compression......

  I am also interested in image compression, mostly .gif compression.
If anyone knows of any .gif compression programs, please pass it along!


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*  From:  Ben Ricker  s954161@Umslvma.umsl.edu                       *
*         University of Missouri at St. Louis                        *
*                                                                    *
* "I'm going to hollow you out and use you as a sleeping bag!        *
*  Crow T. Robot                                                     *
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From:         MDAST6@PITTVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: (was) fractal dimension of time series

Thank You DAVE!!!!!!!!!!!
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