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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari ST -> Commie 1084 monitor
From: shore@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:11:20 NZT
Reply-To: shore@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
Organization: Equinox Networks, ChCh, New Zealand * Private Node: Yonder
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992

In <1992Jun25.061910.11708@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>, sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>In article <1992Jun22.163013.26809@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, cs902117@juno.ariel.yorku.ca (ToneSTer) writes:
>>Hi all!  Thanks to Ben Gilbert, and some spare time on my hands, I managed to 
>>put together a monitor cable to hook up the ST to my Commodore 1084 monitor.
>>I have run into a small problem with it...  I hooked up everything the way it 
>>should be, and there was nothing on the screen.  Then I accidentally wired up
>>a pin labelled "monochrome" to a color pin (Blue) and the cable now works, BUT,
>>I don't have BLUE!!!!
>>
>>   ____
>>    / o n y.
>
>You can't do this, you must use the Scart if it has one, or go though
>23 pin 'D' type Amiga monitor connector..
>
>Do you have the pin outs for this..??
>
>You can't use the RGBI input...

Hmm, your reply is very confusing Roger... and i'm using the setup!!!

All you need to do is to use the cable that goes to the monitors
 9 pin D connector, which, I believe, on the other end of it, has
 the 23 pin connector to go into an Amiga.

I guess all you need to do is chop off the Amiga 23-pin D connector,
 and wire up a plug for the ST/E

The Monitor itself, can run in digital or analog RGB mode, it has a 
 switch on the back of it for that, *only the one input socket*

It also has an RCA video input, and a chroma one as well, and
 of course, the audio RCA jack/s.
Neat for hooking your video into to watch TV on your monitor!!! :-)

 Craig.

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From: ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Gemulator
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:15:38 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

In article <1992Jul19.023643.11136@microsoft.com> darekm@microsoft.com (Darek Mihocka) writes:
< Gemulator has 8 ROM sockets on it, which is capable of reading any ROMs, not
< just specifically Atari ST ROMs. So you can take that ROM out of your Deskcart
< cartridge or out of your Magic Sac cartridge and it can be read by the
< Gemulator board. Mac emulation is definitely planned for a future release.

Of course, this will not allow reading of Mac disks, like Spectre GCR.
--

"Things should be as simple as possible, but no simpler."   - Albert Einstein

ken@isgtec.com   [ ...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ken ]  Ken Newman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: athena@tina.dei.unipd.it (Matteo Frigo)
Subject: SBProlog 3.1 at atari archive
Organization: Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:24:03 GMT

I just uploaded sbprolog.zoo in the directory new.
The archive comprises sources, binaries and docs.
There were some guys interested in it some time
ago in this newsgroup.

BTW, I don't think it's better than prolog68, which
is 100% faster; but at least it reached a final stage
of development, and is provided with source code (an
invaluable feature for novices) and has english documentation
(an invaluable feature for everybody :-).

Matteo Frigo



Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca (TONY D'ALFONSO)
Subject: UPDATE: Atari ST -> Commie 1084 monitor
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:59:39 GMT


Hi there!  I almost gave up on the cable...  I have tried almost everything,
but I still have the same problems...  The last time I rewired it, I had
all the wires hooked up properly, except the monochrome was tapped with one
of the colors (like I did before with the blue), now it looks like I have
all the colors, but I can't seem to get the screen from flipping up and down.
The Horizontal and Vertical syncs are ok (never touched them after getting
them right the first time), but the screen goes up at a fast rate that you
can't tell what's going on!  
 
Does anyone know of a company that I can contact or anyone that has put 
such cables together without problems, so that I can fix this problem?

   ____
From: mapugh@apgea.army.mil (Mark A. Pugh <mapugh>)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ATARI STE vs. ATARI MEGA STE
Keywords: Which one?
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:12:42 GMT
Organization: Edgewood

Hi!

I have a few questions about the difference between the Atari 1040 STE
and the Atari MEGA STE.  Apart from the obvious difference in looks
I can't seem to find much information regarding the difference between
the two.  I've heard that the MEGA has the same CPU (68000), but that
it runs at a faster clock speed than the 1040 (16 MHz vs. 8 MHz, 
respectively).  Are there any differences in graphics modes?  Do they
both support SCSI?  Why should I consider the MEGA STE over the 1040STE?
I understand that both machines incorporate BLITTER and PCM stereo sound.
The only considerable difference I can find is that the MEGA is shipped with
TOS 2.06 as opposed to TOS 1.6.  At any rate, can anyone tell me why
I should buy a MEGA as opposed to the 1040 (STE)???

Please respond E-Mail to <mapugh@crdec.army.mil>

Thanx in advance   . .
                    ^
From: molin@crs.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari Something (?) Magazine
Keywords: Atari, Advantage, magazine, ST Informer
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:42:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University

brayl@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Rayl) writes:

>On an almost unrelted topic, has anyone else seen the scathing Forbes
>article aboutAtari?  8/3 is the issue in question.

Hiya!  

Any good and loyal Atarian knows it's not hard to find something to
scathe Atari about...  Atari goes out of its way every day to be a
target, then they complain when Ralph shoots at 'em!

Personally, I think the people who own/operate Atari should be taken
out to some desert place and machine-gunned.  Not that they'd notice.
They've been shooting themselves in the foot for years!

    -MOlin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett)
Subject: Re: Atari marketing & the Falcon
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:23:44 GMT

In article <92355@bu.edu> selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick) writes:
>Why don't we all pool our money and get, say, $15,000 and give it to
>Atari to take out an ad in TIME, or Business Week, or something like
>that? Maybe that would get the ball rolling? We have to be
>innovative...we own Atari's!

I don't think $15,000 would be nearly enough for an ad in Time, but I
could be wrong.  That seems like a low figure for a magazine with such
a huge readership.  Anyway, what they need is a few billion to buy ads
during the Super Bowl.  Atari might be able to revive themselves with
McDonalds' advertising budget.

Dave Baggett
dmb@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: swoodcoc@nyx.cs.du.edu (Steven Markus Woodcock)
Subject: Re: MIDI-MAZE II
Organization: The Good Guys, Inc.                                   
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 03:20:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.124635.25846@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> seibert@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Ewald Seibert) writes:
>
>Hi
>I bought the PD-disk on a sunday last year, phoned the author the same evening
>sent the money on monday and had the full version 10 days later...
>
>
>-- 
>==============================================================================
>seibert@hphalle9.informatik.tu-muenchen.de   ist
>Ewald Seibert, Herschelstr.1 8070 Ingolstadt,  0841-86480
>
>    Dont't blame ATARI for things, the GURU told you from the ARABIAN NIGHTS (*
>==============================================================================
>
>(*  = Maerchen aus 1001 Nacht

Ewald:

   What's their number?  How can we reach them?  Woz and I are DESPERATE
to get a copy of this editor.


Steven W.
One of the Good Guys

--
    "...Men will awake presently and be Men again, and colour and laughter and
 splendid living will return to a grey civilization. But that will only come 
 true because a few Men will believe in it, and fight for it, and fight in its
 name against everything that sneers and snarls at that ideal..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ST Format Fire and Ice demo difficulty
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 09:46:19 GMT
Organization: Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand
Keywords: ST Format

ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman) writes:

> I don't know about this particular issue, but this is something you have
> to live with when you buy British magazines. I have dozens of cover disks
> from UK magazines, both ST and Amiga, and I would say fully half of the
> games do not work on North American, NTSC machines. The assholes that
> produce these things do not test them at all on NTSC machines or different
> memory configurations. I've even seen magazine disks that put their own
> homebrew menu system on the disk which is pure garbage and IT doesn't
> work on NTSC machines even though the games might. Pathetic, and a very
> annoying waste of money for NTSC customers. I hope some magazines in
> the UK wake up soon.
 
 Ken,
 
 Have you tried to use a little auto folder program called 50_60.prg ?
 I have for many years now used an NTSC machine here in NZ and have
 run the bbs here with no problem and have most of the ST Format and
 other British games that _ALL_ work 100%.
 
 May I suggest it is something on your end rather than the fault of the
 magazine publishers. 
 
 I personally feel your commens are a little over the top in regards
 to ... 
 
 Quote "Pathetic, and a very annoying waste of money for NTSC customers."
 
 But then again these are just my thoughts..

 Jon Clarke               (Z*NET FNET now in FIDO)                HSBC NZM EBD
 GEnie: J.CLARKE6          FIDONET: 3/772:105      TheNets: jonc@status.gen.nz
 T h e    Z * N E T    G l o b a l   N e w s   G a t e w a y    i n    N Z L .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: boyd@cs.unca.edu (Mark Boyd)
Subject: Docs for installing EZRAM II in 1040 ST
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:27:19 GMT

I would like to buy a EZRAM II board to expand a 1040 ST to 2.5 M but
the seller has no documentation. If you have docs on installing this
board could you send me a summary? I have worked lots with hardware
and I am pretty familiar with ST innards, so I don't need hand
holding just basic installation instructions. Thanks,

	Mark
	boyd@cs.unca.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hm341ne@uni-duisburg.de (Thomas Neumann)
Subject: Re: Sigma Soft -- And: Re: MIDI MAZE!
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:28:04 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni-Duisburg

I can confirm this!
There will be no more new versions of TurboAss and Bugaboo,
Markus Fritze (one of teh SigmaSofts) wrote me.

From: jensk@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com (Jens Kilian)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:51:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Less and ger2en19
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st

/ hpbbrd:comp.sys.atari.st / rosenkra@convex.com (William Rosenkranz) /  2:12 pm  Jul 20, 1992 /
> i built my own less 177 from original unix src. there were only a couple
> of changes that needed to be made. note that i believe it only runs under
> MiNT (tested daily with 0.94). i built with gcc 1.40 and MiNT libs PL 19.

I built it with the MiNT library PL20, and it also runs from TOS. I even
installed it in DESKTOP.INF as a replacement for the dumb desktop pager.
Strongly recommended !

> only thing i don't like is default is to have `:n' go to next file rather than
> just `N'.

That's what `lesskey' is for, I believe ...

> since in don't recall if i started with comp.sources.unix version or convex
> version, i don't want to post it. i can, however, diff it and post those.

I got mine from an archive of GNU sources (I think it was a mirror of the
original GNU ftp server at MIT).

	Have fun (you will),

	Jens.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Subject: Re: The new Multi-TOS ....
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:11:31 GMT
Reply-To: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands

Does anybody know if MultiTOS supports Threads (Lightweight Processes)?
-- 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.ruu.nl>
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon price
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:14:04 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Jul21.025646.6776@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>
>The price here would be some $2400nz I can get a 386DX with SVGA Monitor 40meg
>HD. for some $1800nz and great support plus the software I need and as
>many books as I can read..
>

Blah, blah, blah.  The same ol' song...

>My next machine will be a PC clone, it is a simple as that...

We can't wait!!  Please hurry, get your clone and sell your ST.  You obviously
aren't happy with it.
-- 
   |||    Ed Krimen
   |||    ekrimen@wet.com or ekrimen@wet.UUCP or hoptoad!wet!ekrimen
  / | \   E.KRIMEN (GEnie)
From: paul@jupiter.noname (Paul Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: TTP programs from GFA Basic?
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:38:20 GMT
Reply-To: paul@jupiter.noname
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona

There may be some absurdly simple answer to this, but I sure can't find it in the
manual (maybe I'm not looking the the right places :).  But here it is:  How does one
access the parameters passed to a .TTP program using GFA Basic?  SHEL_READ() gives it
_sometimes_ (from GEM, but not from a CLI).

Thanks for the help!

-Paul Harris
paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
From: yegerleh@cortez.ecn.purdue.edu (James D Yegerlehner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon info
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:22:31 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul24.143614.15665@fwi.uva.nl>, kort@fwi.uva.nl (Jan Kort (I89)) writes:
> Hardware:
> 16 MHz MC68030 
> 32 MHz Motorola 56001 DSP-chip
> 1,4 or 16 MegaByte (No simms ...)

[stuff deleted]
> 
> Resolutions:
> Mode		Resolution	Bitplns	colors	pallette
> ST Low-res	320x200		4	16	4096
> ST Med-res	640x200		2	4	4096
> ST High-res	640x400		1	2	4096
> 		640x480		8	256	262.144
> true color	320x200		15	32768	--
> VGA/VIDEO	x:320 or 640	1,4,	2,16,	(overscan select)
> 		y:200 or 400	8	256	262.144

Hmm, what exactly does the overscan select mean?  Is this really
going to have a max resolution of 640x480? I had heard earlier rumors
of 800x600. This is very bad news if 640x480 is as good as it gets.

> P.S. I got all this information from a magazine called "atari st nieuws"
> edition 50/51. There's lots more info in the article (especially about the
> DSP ). I'm not gonna type all that stuff though :) 

Could someone possibly check up on the video resolution?

> 
> Jan Kort
> kort@fwi.uva.nl
From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari Something (?) Magazine
Keywords: where?
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:28:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul23.012827.9209
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington

rrk@vixen.uucp (24115-kutz) writes:

>Two months or so ago I sent $11 to a new magazine outfit
>(who I have learned came about as a result of an ST Informer split)
>and they sent me a magazine (May issue, I believe).  Does anyone know
>if that is it?  Or should I expect yet another issue any day now?

>Randy Kutz  rrk@vixen.bellcore.com
>Randy Kutz    Bellcore       ..!bellcore!vixen!rrk
>                            or rrk@vixen.cc.bellcore.com

Yes, this is Atari Advantage.  There have been 2 issues so far; an April
and a May.  The June and July issues are to be combined and contain the
first U.S. hands-on review  of the Falcon.  We are all looking forward to
it!  You should get it by the end of the month.  It is a monthly
publication normally, but they're new at publishing and they got a bit
behind!  The June/July issue will count only as one issue off your
subscription.

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization:  One of these days for sure
Subject: Re: Mouse creep.....
	<1992Jul23.134629.432@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
Reply-To: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:04:00 -0700

In <1992Jul23.134629.432@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>,  Volker A. Brandt  writes:
>>In article <4561@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> woocm@essex.ac.uk (Chris Wood) writes:
>>>	I have a problem that started some time ago but is getting
>>>more frequent. My mouse creeps around the screen!
>
>I have also experienced this problem.  The cause is the litte SMD chip inside
>the mouse, if I remember correctly it's just a simple 74LS... type that likes
>to fail in a whole batch of ST mice.
>
>If you're good at soldering, replace it.  I bought a "refurbished" mouse.

	You can also just change the resister biasing the photo transister 
who's bias tend's to drift with age. However, the best solution is an 
aftermarket mouse, like the Golden Image GT 250, which has microswitches 
and in general is a much nicer feeling mouse.



-- 
jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca 	

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI)
Subject: Re: Adaptec Controller Clock Problem
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 20:30:12 GMT

In article <Bs7wE5.62p@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> bmaraldo@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Commander Brett Maraldo) writes:
>
>	I just purchased an ICD drive with an Adaptec 4000 series front-end

Call ICD's bbs
815-968-2229

Get the latest utilities, they allow for 32Meg and larger partitions.

I prefer the 32 meg ones though... they use smaller allocation units.
I wonder what size Minix allocation units are!?  Maybe I'll switch to minix
format.  What benefits other than flexible naming does the Minix format
offer (from within tos/MiNT)????

jc
From: Shane.Ziegler@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Shane Ziegler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: MiNT
Date: 21 Jul 92 03:47:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: tdkt.711698120.F00001

How do i get MiNT to work on a TT with 3.06?  I have tried starting it from the
auto folder or setting it to auto execute from the desktop.  I got it to run
fine on my old ST.  It loads and runs MiNT but never exits from the MINT.PRG to
the desktop or whereever...
 

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS Mpls,MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
From: sytang@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Shoou-yu tang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Toshiba CD-ROM drive with Metados 2.0 ?
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:44:25 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


 A few days ago I asked in the tech. group about anyone has used the Toshiba
 CD-ROM drive with Atari's Metados 2.0 sucessful? and only got one reply
 indictes he has problem at present time. Does anyone here has tried the
 metados 2.0 with Toshiba or other CD-ROM drive (remember seen some one said
 they have use CD-ROM drive on ST before)? Is the Metados has newer version or
 it only suppose to work with Chinon drive? Also where should files from metados
 located?
 Thanks
 Tang
 sytang@lamar.colostate.edu
From: rgoseweh@digi.lonestar.org (Roy Gosewehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari Something (?) Magazine
Summary: Atari Advantage June issue very late
Keywords: Atari, Advantage, magazine, ST Informer
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:33:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1992Jul22.181555.22484@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> rrk@vixen.uucp (24115-kutz) writes:
>Two months or so ago I sent $11 to a new magazine outfit
>(who I have learned came about as a result of an ST Informer split)
>and they sent me a magazine (May issue, I believe).  Does anyone know
>if that is it?  Or should I expect yet another issue any day now?

You are referring to the Atari Advantage magazine.  Their first issue
was April, the second issue was May (your first issue).  The third 
issue (June?) should be in distribution sometime this week.  (This is
allegedly the issue with the Falcon review.)

I was concerned about the same thing as you (i.e., what happened to my
subscription?) and sent them mail on GEnie. I received a response
providing the above information.  In my case, he promised to send out
my issue first class this week (so they are responsive).

In an interesting side note, the *July* issue of ST-Informer has a very
professional editorial by Rod McDonald describing his view of the split
without naming any names.  One of the observations that he made in the
editorial was that the two individuals that left did not seem to
understand the importance (in Rod's opinion) of getting issues out on
time. :-)

I have also been having a subscription problem with Atari Explorer and
it *appears* that ST Connection is no longer in production. (I received
two issues out my six-issue subscription.)  After all of my problems get
sorted out, I think I am going to do myself a favor and subscribe to AIM
(Atari Interface Magazine).  I buy it on the newstand now and I think
that Bill and Pattie Rayl deserve our support.  (Incidently, IMHO the
sharpest AIM cover that I have seen was the DTP issue with the tan brick
background.  Very catchy!)

Roy C. Gosewehr
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From: naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Falcon again
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:11:43 GMT
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre

I wonder who will be the first person to post some RELIABLE info about
the Falcon's specs?
I expect there to be a large rush of postings after the unveiling in
Dusseldorf(I think it's there anyway :-) ).

I was thinking of buying a new ST but I would like to know what the Falcon
will be like first.
Is it OK to buy one of the first Falcons when they come out?
I have heard that the first few of every new computer has lots of bugs in.
Is this true and if so, how long do I wait before they are fixed?

BTW If you are thinking of getting a memory upgrade I would suggest going
to Evesham Micros. (I am not connected with them at all).
The story goes like this.....
I bought a 1meg upgrade for my STFM. When I took apart my computer I thought
it was just a tad too complicated for me(not being the most technical minded
person) so I took it back to Evesham Micros for them to put it in.
I am glad I did this now because even though I gave them the 1meg upgrade, 
they fitted 2megs (to make 2.5megs all together!) plus they only charged me
20 (english) pounds to install it! Not bad eh? Saved a few quid there! :-) 

Anyway, got to get back to work now.
Phil
E-mail naffara@uk.ac.crc

PS I have just heard of an ST emulator for PC's (Gemulator?) Where can I get 
this from. I might be able to persuade my boss to buy one. Then again...