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From: newt@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Michael Steven Newton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Scots Gaels
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:24:24 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

downey@enh.nist.gov writes:

>What are White Settlers regarding Scotland?  From the article posted
>about Scots Gaels and American Indians, I have a general idea but
>would like further clarification.

  The white settlers are the people from England who are of a different
  culture, yet have enough money (there is a big difference in economic
  scales between Scotland and England) to buy summer homes and retirement
  homes at prices which the local Scots could not afford.  As a result
  local culture and population become displaced and angry. 

>Correct me if I am wrong, but is there an influx of "rich" white
>settlers into the Highlands as reported by the article?  Where,
>specifically are "they" coming from?  What is the effect on Gaelic
>culture?  Is the Assynter's group legitimate? radical? necessary?

  Obviously whenever you displace a group and replace them by another
  group this has a big effect on culture and language.

  The Assynt crofters are a group in Sutherland trying to buy the
  croft land they've been living and working on for some time, but which
  is in the hands of a Swedish corporation.

>Have they had any success?  I don't know anything about the group,
>other than a brief description I heard somewhere else.  I believe
>the group was described as a community group trying to preserve
>land and industry for the local people.  Is this correct?

  Their initial bid was rejected and they are taking their case to court.

>Well, here is a Scottish topic.  Craig, has this been discussed on
>your Scottish group?  Let the discussions begin!  :-)

  Is there a Scottish group yet??


  -- mn
From: wb9tow@bluegrass.ecn.purdue.edu (Steven A Marquie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Celts-Christianity-Catholicism
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:17:04 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network




It appears that there was a bit of difficulty getting my previous post out
to one and all.(Matthew)  Therefore for the sake of anyone interested I will
attempt this meager flame again!
	 First there were a couple of comments reguarding my statements by 
Matthew that I would like to address.
	As a Wiccan, I practice certain Celtic religious beliefs that predate 
catholicism by several hundred years.  In particular tramsmigration.  (Matthew
being well read as you are I am certain you are aware for what it stands)
Simply put, one who believes in this accepts possibilities of previous and past
lives, different gender and other species.  
	Certain dieties from Celtic religion were used by the catholics in 
order to gain support "quietly" from the Celts.  After all, it is easier to 
asimilate a race into another culture rather than conquor.  
	Next, the works I was refering to date from the 1800's and the early 
1900's.  In particular, Celtic Myths and Legends, T.W. Rolleston, Harrap, 1917,
Ancient Religions, Margret Murry, 1926, and Keltic Researches, Nicholson, 1904.
All clearly explain the concept of the early religions of Celtica. (Which by 
the way, Matthew, includes all Celtic people, not just Ireland.)
	And lastly, there were comments about the transition of Celtica to 
christianity, It was not peacful.  Have you  ever heard of the inquisition??
and This "asimilation" started before Pope Gregory IX.  Just because Ireland 
was'nt invaded by hords of conquoring catholics, it was done shrewdly. (Gee,
sounds like a Borg asimilation!) (Star Trek, Matthew) 
	Well, tis all my ranting for now.  I hope to think that I successfully
left physical hostility in a past life, Matthew, I am always open to new 
books and ideas. But, this is my religion and it works for me, let alone feels
propper.  I have been practicing it for 17 years and DONT need anyone to change
me now.  I DONT TRY TO CONVERT OTHERS, NOR DO I WORSHIP THE DEVIL( that's 
a christion deity, not mine)JUST DONT TRY TO CHANGE ME!!!
And I'm not better than others, just tring to be better for me.
If we were livign a true Celtic life, Women would have true rights, and noone
would care who you slept with last night.
		merry meet, and merry part,
						steve
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Question
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:09:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.Bw4L7u.7Gv
Organization: Purdue University

I've just stumbled upon this newsgroup and was wondering if one of
you-netters here could help me out.  

For the last few weeks I've been trying to find the Scottish or
Celtic word for "Legend".  I've been a long time enthusist of
Old English writings and ballads and I've been looking for a few
good "Old English" words to complete a poem I've been writing (for my
ENG305) class.  

So if anyone can help me out, Please either post or mail me
the spelling for the word "legend".  Thank you in advance!


---------------
Marla Belzowski  (OK OK, I know it' Polish, bu my grandma's maiden name
was Elliott -- Honestly!)   
saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: edch14@castle.ed.ac.uk (R V P Flood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: King of the Republic of Ireland.
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:22:40 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


King of a Republic???????

Does that make sense.?

Rob...
From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Sinead O'Connor's cute little performance
Date: 7 Oct 1992 09:03:44 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <23464@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.180223.21820@news.nd.edu>, ulick@angelico.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:
> > Americans!!  Taking this seriously:-).  Unless you hadn't noticed Ms. O'Connor's
> > entire act from her hairdo, illegitimate child, abortions, the bullshit
> > about the American flag a while back are all designed to shock, to help her
> > sell more records.  
> 
>  Interesting approach. I've always found her to be a bit naive when it
> comes to her so-called political views but I was surprised to see her
> do this - I couldn't tell what she expected as a response - the absolute
> silence that followed surprised me

So, what did she do?

 - I would have expected that you could
> go on stage, beat a cat to death, and some stupid ass would still
> applaud because he thought he was supposed to

Microwaving them is another matter...


Steve

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From: mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Speech by Martin Fincane
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:49:02 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
>I noticed that no one has posted in regards to the Speech by
>Martin Finucane....I was hoping to hear some thoughts from people who
>actually live in Ireland regarding his speech.  Of course, everyone
>might not have had time to see it yet.  *smile*
>
>Does this happen all over Ireland or just in certain areas?  I mean
>are there certain areas that are more privy to this than others?
>I guess I thought that things were not so bad in Ireland as the media
>used to indicate that it was at one time.
>
>I would appreciate any comments of support or no support of this
>tragedy.

Looks like it's time for another round of the Northern Ireland
debate. This is how it usually goes - someone posts something
with a Republican slant. No one who actually holds to the
Unionist position replies, so in order to make a bit of balance
I try to post something reasonably neutral explaining the
Unionist position. I am immediately jumped upon by diverse
people assuming I am a mad British imperialist colonialist etc.
etc. All attempts to extricate myself only make things worse.

So here goes again. The problem with the Martin Finucane speech
was that it seemed to suggest that such things were all one
sided. It did not cover the fact that there are plenty of
Protestants assassinated by Catholic terrorists, and
Protestants burnt out of their homes in predominantly Catholic
areas.

And no, it does not happen "all over Ireland". The troubles are
confined to that part of Ireland which remains part of
the UK, and even then mainly to certain parts. The troubles are
more likely to spill over to IRA bombs on the UK mainland than
they are to the Republic of Ireland.

Matthew Huntbach
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Irish Rejects Associated (IRA)
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:18:56 EDT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <23783@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
says:
>In article <NN1ksB6w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
>(Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>
> <article deleted>
>
>Now note two simple things here:
>
>1) I had nothing to do with this discussion.
>
>2) You can bet you won't hear diddly-squat from ol righteous Ray (Dunn)
>about someone trying to stir up trouble or posting malicious articles
>intended only to cause controversy - why you ask? Because he only
>finds articles that he disagrees with troublesome....
To be fair to Ray, the fact that the Yadallee is a well known nutter is
sufficient reason to just ignore his rantings altogether. If his writing
is any indication, he wouldn't understand any criticisms Ray might level
at him anyway, unless Ray could post them in that weird pidgin peculiar
to Yadallees posts. And to be fair to Yadallee, it's not even clear that
his posting is a "malicious article intended only to cause controversy".
Judging by his previous rants, he is quite sincere. (Sincerely lobotomised
in all likelihood).

>
>                                gln
>
Aengus
--
RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
"How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
"Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
From: rm4@st-andrews.ac.uk (Rosa Michaelson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Big Country, the rock group
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:10:40 GMT
Organization: near St. Andrews University

Just to clarify the history here - Runrig came first, by some years. They
have a much more political stance than Big C.  By this I mean that they have a 
highland 'political' view about emmigrants and scottish renewal.
Gaelic is of primal importance to the song writers and singers. 
They have roots in scottish dance music/piping. Big C. claimed
to be surprised when people compared the guitar sound to 'scottish' tunings
i.e. pentatonic modes and came from the punk era. Despite these differences
I find it interesting that the two styles of music seem quite similar - 
especially the more recent Runrig albums. But perhaps Big C. were more 
influenced than they cared to admit.
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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Going to Ireland
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:09:56 EDT

Hi posters! I am going to Ireland for my honeymoon in June, and I would like
to know if there are any special places to get a room, travel, see, etc. Oh,
and what is it like eating out over there? I've travelled to England a few years
back and ate inpubs. Is that what most of Ireland is like? The food, I mean?
I plan on going out to the West and down through Cork as well.

Any information on renting a car, getting a temporary driver's licence (I know
that can be accomplished, I believe), etc. Anything you send will be appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanx

Chris Dunlea
crdunlea@rodan.syr.edu
From: skaamjm@ucl.ac.uk (Matthew Moore)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Sinead O'Connor's cute little performance
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:16:00 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

ulick@angelico.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:


>Americans!!  Taking this seriously:-).  Unless you hadn't noticed Ms. O'Connor's
>entire act from her hairdo, illegitimate child, abortions, the bullshit
>about the American flag a while back are all designed to shock, to help her
>sell more records.  Most Irish people attempt to ignore her, in the expectation

what makes any person more or less "legitimate" than any other? and
who are you to say so?

snarl, er, flame off, 

while many of the things you mention may be true, it is a little bit
unfair for you to claim that the way a woman manages her fertility is
designed to both shock and sell records.
From: ulick@liszt.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Mad Cow Diseases was Re: Scottish Newsgroup
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:15:52 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <CC.92Oct16121239@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>
>Probably because of Mad Cow Disease, I suppose.  I seem to remember reading
>recently that 60000 cows have now died of this.

Died of it, or were butchered because one beast in the herd might have had it?


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From: mojo@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Americans! *smile*
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:27:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.101050.11573@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>From: silva@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Holly Silva)
>>I sense that stock anti-americanism and attendant contempt for
>>american patriotism is less rooted in any intrinsic European wisdom or
>>modesty than in a fairly petty, vicious desire to see the US in trouble.
>
>No it is not. It is rooted in the fact that we have seen how
>nationalism has contributed to wars, death, imperialistic
>conquest, suppression of minorities, racism and many other evils.
>Nationalism of the sort which Americans find natural and
>unexceptional is in Europe regarded as the height of bad
>manners, boorish and dangerous.
>
>Matthew Huntbach

I take it you have never attended a French/British football match.
Thats _soccer_ to you imperialist Yankee's out there.
 
Jim



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From: adam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Adam Hamilton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Sinead O'Connor's cute little performance
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:41:21 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <Bvqw9C.5Jp@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
:gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
:>Is she Catholic?
:
:I believe so.
:
	It seems very unlikely, though she may have been born into a Catholic
family.  There is (should be) a difference, you know.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: sp@u36.kwnet.on.ca (Sean P Goggin)
Subject: King of the Republic of Ireland.
Organization: U36 Research
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:22:42 GMT

The following is a transcription of a newspaper
clipping given to me some thirty years ago.
It was culled from a Dublin daily paper sometime
in the late 50's, the exact date and publication
are unknown to me.

Begin quote.

Where Edward VIII is King.

The Irish can always be relied upon for a capital 
turn-up for the books.

A distinguished Irish constitional lawyer, Rex Mackey,
comes up with a corker in his book "Windward of the Law." *

He states categorically that the Duke of Windsor is still
King of Ireland.

The arguement is a highly technical one. In an abbreviated
form it runs thus:

	In 1921 Ireland acquired Dominion status. This meant
that no law passed in Britain applied to Ireland without her
assent.

	In 1922 it was made clear that all laws existing in
Ireland were valid unless repealed. At that time Ireland had 
no power to alter rpyal succession. No law has been passed 
to give her that power.

	On December 11, 1937, Britain passed an act agreeing 
to Edward VIII's abdication. All the Dominions assented. 
Exceot the Irish Free State.

	On December 11 Ireland merely stripped the King of
his domestic functions. It did not take away his title or
perogatives.

	On the next day the Irish Parliament, independently,
passed an act agreeing to the King's Instrument of Abdication.
This was invalid.

First, what they agreed to was nothing but an expression of
desire by the King. It was not the Abdication Act.

Secondly, they had no power to alter the succession on their
own.

Thirdly, they referred to him as Edward, King of Great Britain,
which on that day he was not.

Almost undoubtedly the Duke of Windsor is the King of the Republic
of Ireland. And the Duchess is Queen.

Mr. Mackey assures me that this theory has been vetted and passsed
by both British and Irish constitutional lawyers.

* W.H. Allen, 25s.

End quote.

I thought this little titbit might elicit some interesting and 
thought provoking response. :-)

Have fun.

	SP

Sea/n Pearse Goggin
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Subject: Re: Who lived in Great Britain before the Kelts?
From: Henry Corcoran <CORCORAN@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 12 Oct 1992 20:08:38 CDT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

In article <Bw0np5.GL5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(Iskandar Taib) says:
>
>In article <D8m6RB7w165w@netlink.cts.com> lionhart@netlink.cts.com (Jackie
>Zucconi) writes:
>
>>  Would these Belgic tribes be the famous "beeker people" that's I've
>>heard about (oh so long ago)? If memory serves me right they were called
>>"Beeker people" because the only remains archeologists found were
>>earthenware beekers.
>


 It is agood thing the archeologists didn't find erlymeyer flasks 8^)
 (The smiley face is wearing safety goggles)
                                            Henry
From: eamon@netcom.com (Charles E Taggart)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: *Scottish Film Industry*  is there such a thing?????!
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:40:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct16.122530.21665@Cadence.COM> alastair@Cadence.COM 
(Alastair Young) writes:

>Not much, but some:
>
>That Sinking Feeling
>Gregory's Girl
>Local Hero
 ^^^^^^^^^^
My favourite!

Plus, Forsyth did "Comfort and Joy" after that one.  ("... ding da-ding
da-ding DING ding!  'Hello, folks!'")

>Restless Natives
>Taggart-The Movie :-)
 ^^^^^^^

Hm, that's one I'd like to see!
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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Non SCC topics AND finally a SCC topic! *smile*
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:49:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <1992Oct9.193613.2229@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:

   Have a wonderful weekend!  * S M I L E *

Yes *Sir*! <click>
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From: Gerry.Mulvenna@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Gerry Mulvenna)
Subject: Re: Sinead O'Connor's cute little performance
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:34:50 GMT

Well according to Radio Ulster this morning, Sinead sang the Bob Marley 
song "war" and finished by saying something about "the real enemy" and 
proceeded to tear up a picture of the pope.

If this was a shock tactic designed to gain publicity and sell records
well you would have to agree that it worked :-)

BTW, speaking of the real enemy , is it true that he is going to
participate at a Columbus "celebration" in the Caribbean in which

a giant lighthouse cum cross will be illuminated by this holy ring-laden
fingers?  I saw a play last night (Mrs Columbus speaks out) in which this
scenario was described.

Gerry Mulvenna
 (osg1688@uk.ac.qub.v2)

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From: niall@nmsu.edu (Niall Graham)
Subject: Re: Scottish Newsgroup
Organization: Computing Research Lab
	<1992Oct8.153547.15916@news.nd.edu> <1992Oct8.174256.4410@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:48:24 GMT

Conversation between myself and US customs official at JFK:

Do you have any food to declare?
No.
Any meat?
No, nothing.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
Any black pudding?

I laughed. Then he laughed.
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From: hhamouda@unity.ncsu.edu (Hechmi Hamouda)
Subject: VIDEOTAPES CONVERSION BETWEEN U.S. AND OTHER STANDARDS(PAL/SECAM/NTSC)
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:42:06 GMT


 
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