HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Paul Marshall Hounslow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Watch out
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:32:36 GMT
Reply-To: ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., University of Reading


In article 24877@oasys.dt.navy.mil, forestel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (J. Lauren Forestell) writes:
>In rec.motorcycles, rtaraz@bernoulli.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>>
>>So watch out for assholes who run red lights.
>
>Oh yes.  Brick walls will stop cars; you can't count on signs or lights.

I think this should be modified a little bit:

Oh yes.  Brick walls will *MOSTLY* stop cars; you can't count on signs or lights.



Paul

----
73's de Paul                         The smelling pistakes are all my own.
Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ                 I have no employer (I retired ;-).
EMail:  ssuhouns@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk  1990 16 valve K100RS(LT)    DoD #0573
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: riding in groups
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 15:50:05 GMT

In article <79088@ut-emx.uucp> captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
>
>I've only been riding in groups a short while now, but I'm noticing
>quite a variety of group riding tactics, some of which don't go well
>together.
>
>So, my question to all you experienced, knowlegeble group riders is:
>what are the rules for riding in groups?  Where should one ride in
>relation to others; how should one pass other riders; what is the
>recommended space cushion; what signals are used to communicate
>with one another, etc.???

In groups we ride staggered formation about 1 second apart.  At least that's
the theory.  Every now and then we get someone who is not aware of the
formation, keeps changing sides, forcing every one behind to play musical
lane positions.  Sorta like a liter-bike ballet.  This is the approach on
ordinary highways.  The formation changes when you get to twisties.  Here
the fastest go first, with the slowest last.  Single file when going fast
or in twisties, or in any situation where room to move laterally is needed.

In our group rides we don't pass, particularly in twisties.  We _do_ take 
turns leading if we are all sorta matched.  If there is someone who is pushing
I will slow way up and wave them on.  There just ain't any awards for getting
to lunch 22 seconds before someone else that is worth a risk of a drop.

Depending on roads, radar detectors will lead.  About the only signals I've 
ever seen that work are 1) tapping the helmet= I see a cop, 2) tapping the
helmet and then whirling the hand or finger around in a circle = We are being
scanned.

>I've read the MSF book, but it fails to take into account a huge
>group of squids travelling at mach .1 as they ride 3 feet off 
>your rear tire, and scream by you in tight corners. 

These riders are fools.  Ride alone or find a new group.

>Rather than tell these guys to just get lost, I'd like to educate
>them in the socially acceptable ways of group riding.  Surely there
>is some way that squids, Big Dods, and little dods can all group
>ride safely, yet funly (-;  together.

Trying to educate a squid is a total waste of riding time.  It accomplishes
nothing and annoys the squid.

Ride Free,

Bill
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.nude
From: shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
Subject: Re: Call for votes - rec.motorcycles.nude
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 18:17:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Full moons ride!

In article <72169@apple.Apple.COM> jevans@Apple.COM (David Jevans) writes:
>Following the success of the First Annual Nude Ride 'N Feed, on Sept 6, 1992,
>I propose the formation of a new newsgroup, rec.motorcycles.nude!
>
>This group will be devoted to the discussion of all things related to
>buff biking!  Upcoming articles include:
>

      "Care and Cleaning of Sheepskin Seat Covers"


-- 
Lissa
shoun@netcom.com     (408) 926-0812
From: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Warm hands (Was: Leather pants)
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:42:05 GMT
Reply-To: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Organization: NavSurfWarCen, CarderockDiv (ex-"Taylor Model Basin")

In rec.motorcycles, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>
>you could argue the otherway around, too, blaine.  the quickest way
>to cool yourself off is to run cold water on your wrists & ankles
>because your veins are close to the surface there and it cools
>it off before circulating 'round.  does it make sense that heating
>your wrists & ankles (via 'electrics) would heat the rest of you up?
>
Blood flow to the extremities (hands, feet) decreases when the body
is cold and increases when it is hot.  Hands and feet are good radiators,
and the body uses them as such when trying to cool itself.  When trying
to retain heat, blood flow to these areas is reduced.  The body tries
to maintain the temperature of its 'inner core', which is more sensitive
to small changes.  I think that if the body core is chilled, heating
hands and feet would not help restore heat to the rest of the body because
the blood flow has been lowered, although it would help prevent frostbite
and it would feel good, which is whats ultimately most important :).
--____________________________________________________
]    Stu Mennitt     smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil       [
]     David Taylor Research Center, Bethesda, MD      [
]       (But, of course, I live in Virginia)          [
]        ** My DOD is bigger than your DoD **         [
]    '82 XV920 Virago             AMA #_3_2_2         [
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Fabulous Harley Babe Bashing etc.
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:01:36 GMT

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>I'll put MONEY on the fact that after a good hard ride, I could sit any
>one of you people down with a choice between a cold Bud or NOTHING, and
>you'd drink the damned beer!  

I'd take you up on that bet Ed, but in my case, it would probably be
cheating. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:13:34 GMT
Reply-To: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Sep11.134519.15194@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>
>(I'm just mad that the pictures Corbin took of my FJ & Fisher-Price
>luggage weren't used in the catalog. :-)

Maybe you should show some more skin next time, Blaine.  Unzip that
Aerostich down to the waist.

No, wait, forget that idea.
--

P.M. Smith
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh)
Subject: Re: faster rear braking
Reply-To: groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:04:46 GMT

In article <BuFJAF.5rw@cup.hp.com> Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com> writes:
>
>suppose you had only your rear brake with which to stop.
>what do you suppose is faster: straight-line non-locking,
>straight-line locking, or locking and swinging the rear
>out to side?

No cases to make, straight-line non-locking is fastest, unless you
consider lock, swing and highside as a viable stopping method.

>
>for added interest, make two cases: one for dirt, and 
>the other for a clean paved surface.

The relative stopping distances is the same in each case.
Am I being fished??? God, I hate that when it happens.

>
>bonus points for maintaining a more or less straight
>line of travel.
>
>-- hesh


-- 
Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: AR.JTC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Jay Cena)
Subject: Re: >wheelies
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:51:23 GMT

Alain, you still haven't figured it out yet! There was no, repeat no
1987 vmx12. So what is it ? 86 or 88 or a better question might be
what color is it then I can help you figure out what year bike you
own. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
>Alain Hebert / VMX12 '87  | Synerlogic (a Anderson Consulting Division)
>                          | 1405 Trans-Canada, Suite 300     Voice: 514-685-7575
>Consultant for Synerlogic | Dorval, Qc, Can H9P 2V9          Fax:   514-685-7692
>      and (part-time)     |
>Sysadmin for R.O.T        | Recherche Operationelle en Telecommunication
>                          | 5867 De La Roche                 Voice: 514-948-2492
>aal@rot.qc.ca             | Mtl, Qc, Can, H2S 2C8            IP:   192.77.49.131
>-----



Jay Cena
88 Vmax
dod#90
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ply24@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Ohio Gathering
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: oh
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:25:20 GMT

Count me in!  I've been trying to get my husband
to go for weeks now.

Patsy
TWO 1992 Sportster 883 Hugger's
DoD# #0636
ply24@cas.org
From: elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM (elaine 'BEANO' leffler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I didn't do it.
Date: 8 Sep 1992 18:08:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: smarmy.corp.sun.com

In article 13182@informix.com, dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd) writes:
>In article <Bu885J.J0C@cup.hp.com> hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner) writes:
>> J. Eric Townsend (jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov) wrote:
>> : 
>> : I deny any involvement in nude motorcycling.
>> 
>> he's lying.
>> 
>> film at 11.
>
>I wasn't there, I don't know anything about this.
>
>Besides, we're never doing it again.

well as an Innocent Bystander (tm), i'd like to note that certain individuals,
who may or may not have been involved in riding nude, seemed proud enough
of themselves to warrant a future strip n ride.  i hear this stuff is addictive.

best quote heard (after being queried about whether it was a chilling experience):
"no - it's quite a balmy night.  then again, maybe it's the flush of embarrassment
i'm feeling"

squidliest maneuver:  nude wheelies

elef
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: SEX and motorcycles? (Re: equal opportunity cheesecake)
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:52:06 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <7965@public.BTR.COM>, jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com) writes:
> In article <18mdcjINN2ma@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>>As I rant on, just what IS the deal with bikini-clad women in high heels?
>>They seem to infest motorcycle posters, motorcycle magazines, car
>>magazines, and calendars featuring airplanes to drilling equipment.
>>Do hets *really* find the heels-bikini combo sexy?  
> Not any more than heel-less. I pretty much despise and won't buy from
> places that use sex to sell things that have nothing to do with sex. 

motorcycles have nothing to do with sex?  they have *everything* to do with
sex.  motorcycles have an image, often a macho one, to wit the canon camera ad
that has a picture of a long-haired guy on a motorcycle and a caption: "Image
is everything." then there's the sturgis post card i have that says "50 years
of titties and beer."  and the language: crotch-rocket, "put something
between your legs and have some fun".  and the clothes which, except for
blaine, include the traditional leather jacket, not to mention boots and
chains, suggesting the rough trade.  if i weren't so tired, i'd think up some
more, but no doubt the fertile collective unconconscious of r.m will do it for
me.  but not before i get my butt toasted.

>>Even when holding a pipe wrench?
> Oh, that's a different story. Twist me, baby. :-)

shouldn't that be a pipe wench?

> jim
> * DoD #469          KotP(un) 
                      ^^^^^^^^
me too!

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:37:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.145128.2560@pica.army.mil> tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>>bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>>No, I sure don't.  I rather think it quite stupid.  I also think the Corbin
>>>catalog (yes, I got a '92 catalog) has some remarkably stupid photos in
>>>it based on infantile display of skin.
>>
>>Worse yet, they used ugly models.
>
>Actually, they used women who work there. Corbin employees. ("Other duties
>as assigned")

So the $64,000 question, for all you '90's guys complaining about bad
service from Corbin:  When you phoned in your order, did you complain about
the infantile display of ugly models to the woman who answered the phone
to take your order?

Alternate question, for all those who said you got good service:  Did
you rave about the luscious babe on page 7 to the woman who took your
order?  (Did you ask her about her purple welts?)
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: i got a NEW bike
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:29:01 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Sep14.210725.9812@colorado.edu>, laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
> Well it was on sale (20% off) so i bought it. ....
> ahhhhhh they joys and the sorrows of owning a Spagthorpe Lego

we saw these last may when we were shopping for joust prizes.  they were
$25. since we try to buy cheap toys (it's the sentiment, right?), except
for the chef, we passed it buy.  sure did look cool, though.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Centripetal !!
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 13 Sep 92 08:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> when trying to convince some folks that there ISN'T any such thing as
-> 'Centrifugal' force. 'Centrifugal' is only a word used to label that
-> feeling of being 'thrown' outward such as in a vehicle whose course
-> has changed direction. How or where the word came into use is beyond
-> me. The correct term to use when describing 'that outward feeling' is
-> 'Centripetal' which is the name for the force that is actually acting


 Your professor will undoubtedly be shocked to find out that some
elementary-school science books and high school physics books use
"centrifugal" instead of "centripetal."  In fact, the books *I* had for
high school physics were that way.
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Date: 13 Sep 92 08:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> And, of course, my (and other's) favorite sign is near Lolo pass,
-> "Curvy road next 77 miles."

 Scattered across the Texas panhandle are signs which say, "Unlawful to
Ignore Highway Signs", or something to that effect.

 I've also seen several "Duck Crossing" signs.  They're rather
surprising, first time you come across one...

=======================================================================
can you help me...help me get out of this place?...slow sedation...
ain't my style, ain't my pace...giving me a number...NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT
(Nazareth)               XJ900 TURBO at 15psi          DoD# 978  KotFAQ
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Radians; BMW helmets
From: dev2@inform.co.nz (Michael Seales)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:20:17 GMT
Organization: InForm Group Ltd.

In article <t8qnvdd.jfh@netcom.com>, jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
> Also, one of the MSF instructors had a helmet made by BMW which has a
> fold-up jaw.  It looks much easier than a regular helmet to put on if you
> wear glasses, which I do.  I plan to go to Europe later this year, so I'll
> be able to buy one.  Should I?  Are they as safe as regular helmets?

YES! I had a System II, which I really liked. Although it was quite heavy it was really comfortable and convenient. However, the vent system was quite useless.

I now have a System III, which is much better. After the System II it felt wierd, but after I used it for a few months and then put on my System II I felt like I was putting on the pudding bowl. The S3 has good vents, they all do there job properly. Comfort is amazing, I can wear it all day and not get a sore head. Looks good too.

As for safety, the helmets are tested thoroughly using German know-how. I have ridden 80,000 km's in 2 1/2 years and have only had the two helmets. I haven't had to "test" them yet, luckily, but I wouldn't put my head in something that might not save it. 

By the way, the helmets aren't made by BMW, but by Schuberth (remember the golf-ball helmets? that was them too!) who make a whole range of different helmets including chin-strap-less models and others with all sorts of aerodynamic trickery on them.

Get one!

Mike.
From: sham@cs.arizona.edu (Shamim Zvonko Mohamed)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Fabulous Harley Babe Bashing etc.
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:36:37 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <18l6b8INN49i@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>>>
>>>>I'd rather have Nothing than a Bud any day of the week...
>>> 
>>>You're weird.
>>> 
>>	I wouldn't say so. 
>
>I would.  American beer is nothing to get excited over, but it is
>better beer than no beer.  Anybody that drinks beer, that would rather
>not drink beer than drink Budwieser, is weird.

Well, here's another that would rather forgo it than drink Bud. I can't bear to
call it "beer."
   "Why is American beer like sex in a canoe?"
   "Because it's fucking close to water."

(But of course some American beers pass The Mohamed Test quite handily.  Anchor
Steam, Sam Adams, lots of microbreweries, etc. etc.)

ObMoto: I was in moto withdrawal as the damn battery died - again! But now
fortified with a new battery, life begins anew. Now if only it would get a
little cooler...

-s
--
  Shamim Mohamed / {uunet,noao,cmcl2..}!arizona!shamim / shamim@cs.arizona.edu
  "Take this cross and garlic; here's a Mezuzah if he's Jewish; a page of the
    Koran if he's a Muslim; and if he's a Zen Buddhist, you're on your own."
 Member of the League for Programming Freedom - write to league@prep.ai.mit.edu
From: gaijin@ale.Japan.Sun.COM (John Little - Nihon Sun Repair Depot)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: test
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:55:44 GMT
Organization: Nihon Sun Microsystems - Atsugi Technical Centre - JAPAN.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ale.japan.sun.com
Summary: cd /home
Keywords: Splat!

In article <+c0y0mk@rpi.edu>, root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (The Lovable Buffoon) \
writes:
%
%

   ...absolutely bloody nowt!  (Early Anglo-Saxon for "Nuttin' Honey")

   ...so, what's Colorado like at this time of the year?  Does it get  too
   snow-bound to ride in  winter?  Is it  too hot to ride  in sumer?   Are
   turbo-chargers a pre-requisite?  Is  guinness available "on-tap"?   How
   far is the "Walnut" from Colorado Springs?  Is Lacznik's driveway still
   a compulsory "rite  of passage"  for DODers?   What's  your inside  leg
   measurement? Just who -is- "Shafty"?

   Anyone working for  Scooter's Software  Emporium care to  tell me  what
   it's like?

-- 
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  | John Little  - gaijin@Japan.Sun.COM  - Sun Microsystems. Atsugi, Japan | 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: phg+@CS.CMU.EDU (Paul Gleichauf)
Subject: Re: Warm hands (Was: Leather pants)
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:34:15 GMT

As Blaine Gardner has already accurately detailed, electric vests, chaps, and 
gloves are a serious battery drain.  I have equally high praise for this 
equipment, but..

The first BMW K75S I owned came with a smaller battery than that on the K100's.
Even if I only left the vest on while riding, and used a thermostat (reccomended)
the battery suffered.  The next model year BMW started selling all their bikes
with the larger capacity battery.  The word from my dealer was that the use of
high demand accessories like electric clothing was the reason.

The implication is that if you want to use two complete sets of vests and gloves,
have a high capacity battery.  The benefits are not just increased comfort and 
extension of the riding season, but greater immunity to fatigue due to coping
with the cold.  I carry the stuff all the time, even in the summer, in case the 
temperature suddenly drops in the mountains or I end up pushing a ride home late
on a cold night.  The equipment can be collapsed to a small bundle if you 
are careful to fold around the heating elements and wires.

								Paul
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: romanko@waterloo.hp.com (Jeff Romanko)
Subject: Re: slappers
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:24:52 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Gary Woodman (gjw900@anu.edu.au) wrote:
: In article <71810@apple.Apple.COM> thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson) writes:
: 
: >There are differing opinions on how to handle a tank slapper.
: >Some suggest relaxing your grip on the handlebars to allow the
: >bike to sort itself out.  Others recommend gripping the bars
: >firmly to attempt to dampen the oscillation.  I've tried both
: 
: I once had a bike with a bent front swing-arm which would chuck a wobbly 
: whenever I slowed down past about 30 km/h; a touch on the front brake would 
: snap it back into line.
: 
: --
: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au         This post made from 100% recycled electrons.

Isn't that hard on the rear decalvinator housing unit?

jefFZX750
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles