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From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Toronto Motorcycle Show
Summary: I'll go on Jan 3. Be there, or be somewhere else!
Keywords: real environmentalists don't waste bandwidth 
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:24:09 GMT

This article was restricted to the planet earth, and I'd like to see you
sysadmins see that it gets done. 

 charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>>**** This article was ristricted to Ontario. **** 
>>If you're not in Ontario, I'm deeply sorry. :-)
>
>Hey Jody, do you think us down here might not like to see the bike shows <?>
>   or are there secrets on display there that we can't have down here.

Actually, Charlie, If Lake Erie freezes, you may just be close enough to 
make a day trip possible.

Since the word got out anyway, I may as well invite all of you to our 
kitchen for some homebrew and concentrate of coffee before the show, 
and anyone crazy enough to show up will be welcome. Secrets? The the only 
secret that they have is the ability to get me to go every year, despite 
the fact that I usually walk out of there thinking that it was expensive and 
a damn waste of time. Maybe I just get a thrill out of trying on a bunch of
helmets...

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: slk1@blitzen.cc.bellcore.com (kranyec,steve l)
Subject: minibike
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:09:02 GMT

I'm looking for a used minibike ( single speed, approx 3.5 hp) for my son.
If you have one in the NJ area or know of one please E-MAIL me or call
me at work (908)-758-2331.

Thanks

 

 
 
    p
 
 
Steve
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Problems with the 'Ol Sport, r.m.h flame
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:57:07 GMT

dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com (chris dehahn) writes:

>--

>The oil lines could be backwards. The routing diagram in the manual
>I have is not that good. I could see where if you didn't take notes
>you could route them backwards. Check this yourself, first.

Thanks, I'll look again.

>However, here's another scenario. Did the machine shop knurl the
>valve guides? Or maybe they went a little nuts with the reamer.
>HD valve guides should never be knurled for a street motor. All out
>drag motors are an exception.

Hard to tell.

>Another thing to have them check is the breather timing. 

You're the second persson that has mentioned the breather in one way
or the other, I'll have them take a look.

>I hear ya about the tech level of this newsgroup. Sometimes I think
>I'm talking to a brick wall. The only way to get it started is to keep
>posting.

Ya, Beth likens me to my Rottweiller, I'm hard headed, I'll stick to
it too.

>Good luck with your Snortster

Thanks,


*********************************************************************
'86 Concours.....Sophisticated Lady            Tom Dietrich             
'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
^^^^^^^^^^^It *LIVES* (maybe) :{(^              AMA #524245
                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
e-mail txd@Able.MKT.3Com.COM                   Ma Bell (408) 738-8301
Disclaimer: 3Com takes no responsibility for opinions preceding this.

*********************************************************************
From: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Yuppie Harleys, NEW BIKE, rantings
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:50:05 GMT
Reply-To: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <mtrost.724779547@convex.convex.com> mtrost@convex.com (Matthew Trost) writes:
>Evos are better engineered, last longer, run cooler, and (for now) cost more.
>Shovels (in my opinion) Look nicer, and are more nostalgic. Just my personal
>opinion. If you don't want to wrench, get a evo. If you don't mind wrenching
>get a shovel before they're all over in Europe!

Thanks for your opinion Matthew, but you missed the point.  In no way did
I say that Shovels suck.  I like all Harleys, even Sportsters, I consider
them all "real" Harleys.  It was the attitude that I was criticizing, not
the bike.

>As far as "knowing how to use a computer".... get real! That's insulting.

Yes, it was meant to be.  All this yuppie talk was getting to me so I
decided to fling it right back at 'em.  The thing is, some people
generalize in their statements.  I took the liberty to do the same.

>Tell you what though.......I'd rather be wrenching on my shovel, than hacking
>on this keyboard on a Saturday morning!

I'd rather be riding.

- Jerry
From: car377@druhi.ATT.COM (RogersC)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: THE doh ROSTER
Summary: Me too
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:06:33 GMT

In article <carlp.724570390@frigg>, carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
> >carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
> >>-- Carl, doh #0000001340 (two of two)
> 
> >Ah, but in the tradition of such things, the non-organization's founder
> >should only issue the first handful of numbers before some worthy soul
> >adopts the duties of Keeper of the List. Since you claimed the first
> >duplicate number, I think the honor falls on your shoulders. :-)
> 
> Oh, I think Ken's doing just fine at (not) keeping a list.  

As co-holder of doh #0000001340 (one of two), I concur with Carl
that Ken's non-performance to date in this non-area is, to say
the least, exemplary, and possibly even (dare I say it?) irrelevant.

> I will
> assume this dubious honor only upon request from Ken, who must provide
> me with a list of the already-issued numbers, lest I re-issue and
> further annoy the gods of r.m.harley, who already have churning
> stomachs from this not-the-DoD parody-of-a-parody not-a-not-a-club.

I also volunteer to share this non-function, and I suggest an innovation
to ensure that the deplorable recently-appearing doh organizational tendencies
that threaten to shake the very foundations of r.m.h (and liberate 'Roid's
cookies) meet some resistance, should they continue:  Carl should keep
the numbers and I'll keep the names.  Whenever a particular number is 
requested, Carl can say, "OK, you're one of N", and I can say, "OK,
you're, um, Roid, yeah that's it, you're Roid (two of two)."  To avoid 
the appearance of favoritism, I'll provide the list of available names 
here, and prospective doh-ers can select for themselves.  Please note 
that, whereas the DoD has only one such name, (Chuck) the new and improved 
doh has thirteen, no fourteen!  Also, if you share names *and* numbers, it
is actually possible to hold simultaneous multiple memberships with yourself.
(NOTE: Don't try this in Colorado; we have laws against that sort of
thing out here.)

		    Blaine^H^H^H^H^H^H Roid
		    Bob^H^H^H Roid
		    Carl^H^H^H^H Roid
		    Chuck^H^H^H^H^H Roid
		    Craig^H^H^H^H^H Roid
		    Dave^H^H^H^H Roid
		    Eddie^H^H^H^H^H Roid
		    James^H^H^H^H^H Roid
		    John^H^H^H^H Roid
		    Ken^H^H^H Roid
		    Pat^H^H^H Roid
		    Paul^H^H^H^H Roid
		    Roid 
		    Slasher^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Roid
		    Tod^H^H^H Roid

> 
> Besides, I like sharing a number with Chuck, even if he's disappointed
> that I'm not Roid (Rhonda, my first wife, likes it that way).

It's OK, I'm coping somehow.  Anyway, are you *sure* you're not Roid?

:-)
Chuck (Roid) Rogers (pronounced like "Roy")
car377@druhi.att.com
doh #0000001340 (one of two)
NKotNLoNN! (Non-Keeper of the Non-List of Names, NOT!)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: georgerj@rtsg.mot.com (Richard J. George)
Subject: Re: Evo's and Synthetic Oil
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:54:39 GMT


>|
>>|    This applies to all engines with rollerbearing crankshafts, if
>>|too much regular oil will cause this problem, so will oil that is
>>|too slippery!
>>
>>This puzzles me.  What's the point in separating the engine oil from
>>the transmission and clutch, if you can't use the slipperiest oil
>>anyway?  This is a serious question, not a bash.

Oil in the transmision is exposed to greater shearing actions, and
thus the molecular chains within the oil are "cut up".  This will reduce
the effectivness of the oil (increases it's viscosity?).

Thus, with cars such as the Austin/Morris/Rover Mini, the engine oil should
be changed more regularly that a car with seperate transmission/engine
oils.  This also applies to motorbikes, etc.

Regards, Richard.

UK price for 90 1200 Sporty, 8500 pounds, about $15000!!!!
From: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Yuppie Harleys, NEW BIKE, rantings
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:17:12 GMT
Reply-To: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1gdj40INNce2@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM> davek@Central.Sun.COM writes:
>
>What's with all the a*s*o*e* trying to convince everyone 
>that they're the only ones cool enough to ride a Harley.
>
I just try to ignore their rantings.  It's just a vent for their
frustration because they can't afford a new bike.  They justify
their old bike as being a `real' Harley and generalize in their
statement that everyone who can afford a new bike must be a Yuppie.

To be cool one must apparently have a blue collar and a red neck.
What's interesting is that they know how to use a computer, isn't
that Yuppie domain?  Now I'm generalizing... I must be as bad as
they are.

- Jerry
From: efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: THE doh ROSTER
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:07:57 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec11.112956.9666@thinkage.on.ca>,
kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.144112.1030@hemlock.cray.com>
>rye@mahogany209.cray.com (James K. Rye) writes:
>>
>>Finally! a group that gives great attitude. DOH # 0069.
>
>doh-heads always use lowercase acronyms.
>doh designations are 10 digits.
>you are disqualified.
>
>in the future we may consider allocation of #0000000068 and owing you
>one...
>
>the doh doesnt need attitude while it has me...
>
>   -ken, doh #0000000001
>
>-- 
>   - Ken Dykes, Thinkage Ltd., Kitchener, Ontario, Canada    [43.47N
>80.52W]
>         kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca   postmaster@thinkage.com  
>thinkage!kgdykes
>         harley-request@thinkage.on.ca            
>kgdykes@math.uwaterloo.ca


Well, hell, if Ken D. can acknowledge his little monster, then I 
guess I'll take a number............

give me doh #0000000013

later, eddie

Don't tread on me..........................................I bite
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For Pay:      System Design Engineer     Amdahl Corp.
              Bringing you better mainframe computers
For Fun:      "River Rat"                SBU-XI SPECWARGRU1 (USNR)
              Bringing hellfire and brimstone to a river near you!
From: efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: THE DOH ROSTER
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:51:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <Uf=ATpe00WAE00fUcX@andrew.cmu.edu>, jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu
(John Makel) writes:
>Re: The DOH ROSTER my favorite number has always been  13...........
>

Hey!!!!! I've got that one already!!!!! (wanna buy it???)

(try 666 John...............)

Eddie Kieger, doh #0000000013
DOD # 291743377 <- ask me about THIS one!!!!

Don't tread on me..........................................I bite
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Eddie Kieger                             efk00@cd.amdahl.com 
For Pay:      System Design Engineer     Amdahl Corp.
              Bringing you better mainframe computers
For Fun:      "River Rat"                SBU-XI SPECWARGRU1 (USNR)
              Bringing hellfire and brimstone to a river near you!
From: davek@Central.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Yuppie Harleys, NEW BIKE, rantings
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:46:56 GMT
Organization: "Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation, Dallas, TX."
NNTP-Posting-Host: hooter.central.sun.com

In article 111292150126@stafford.winona.msus.edu, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>It is time again for the regular ranting and raving at
>the yuppie scum who just bought a brand new
>Harley as their first bike or are about to. 
>
>GET A SOUL!
>
>Ach!  It didn't work.  I'm still pissed.  OK, let's
>try again.  YOU DIDN'T BUY A HARLEY BECAUSE THERE HASN'T
>BEEN A _REAL_ HARLEY BUILT SINCE 1960.  Ahhh, much better.


I thought this newsgroup was for people into motorcycles.

What's with all the assholes trying to convince everyone 
that they're the only ones cool enough to ride a Harley.

Seems like these guys should start posting to Alt.ShitHeads
and let the rest of us talk bikes.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers)
Subject: Re: THE doh ROSTER
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:35:36 GMT
Summary: Anarchy! Anarchy!

In article <carlp.724103077@frigg>, carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
> 
> Oh, Hell, Ken - I guess I'll take doh #0000001340.  I was gonna ignore
> this and hope it went away, but if everybody's gonna get one, I might
> as well get a GOOD one while there's some left.

Ah, company!!!
 
In Message-ID: <22783@drutx.ATT.COM> on 8 Dec 92 18:44:10 GMT, I wrote:

> [much excellent thought-provoking prose regrettably deleted]
> 
> Chuck Rogers
> car377@druhi.att.com
> doh #0000001340
> 
> [list of superb titles deleted also, as proper humility would require,
>  for someone of my vast, er.. extensive sparkliness]

Wow, someone to share my doh number with!  That's what I like about
the doh: no stiff rules about unique numbers, unlike the DoD, which
sometimes exhibits Creeping Overt Organizational Rigidity Syndrome. (COORS)

Of course, I was sorta hoping for Seth, but c'est la vie!  I guess 
this makes us buddies, eh Carl?  Say, does this mean can I borrow your 
bike tomorrow?  

:-)
Chuck Rogers
car377@druhi.att.com
doh #0000001340 (one of two)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: THE doh ROSTER
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:14:45 GMT

carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:

>Ken - if you're actually keeping a list, put me down for 0000001338,
>but I reserve the right to use this:

>-- Carl, doh #0000001340 (two of two)

Ah, but in the tradition of such things, the non-organization's founder
should only issue the first handful of numbers before some worthy soul
adopts the duties of Keeper of the List. Since you claimed the first
duplicate number, I think the honor falls on your shoulders. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com (chris dehahn)
Subject: Re: question on FLH starter system
Reply-To: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:30:33 GMT

--

In article <mtrost.724435128@convex.convex.com>, mtrost@convex.com (Matthew
Trost) writes:

|>I have 1974 FLH electric start. I'm going back to the stock electrical
|>system. (the bozo before me had this big goofy push button switch near the
|>coil, to energize the starter) I want it back up on the right handlebar 
|>where it belongs.

There's a reason the previous owner put that big goofy pushbutton
switch by the coil. The POS switch in the right switch cover is junk.
I replace mine every year. The HD switches are the best but a) they
are $15 each and b) only last a little longer. The repops are $2.
Beware that some HD dealers sell the $2 repops for $15. It's very
hard to tell the difference.

Yes, you absolutely need a starter relay if you're using the stock
starter switch. You have two choices. 

1) Fit an Accel old style starter relay. This is a high quality part,
    better than OEM and is guaranteed.

2) Fit a later Bosch style relay. I can cross reference the relay
    numbers for you.

Or you can run that big goofy pushbutton by the coil and forget
about the relay and the switch.

Both the Prestolite and the Hitachi starters are good. I run a
Prestolite with Accel high torque field coils on my stroker. It works.

The factort wiring diagram is a mess. I ran my own harness and 
have a CAD drawing of it. It's for an FX with minimal accessories
but the starter wiring is similar to yours. Send mail.

Good luck

CdH

Chris

<<<<<<<<<<<<   Ninety eight....don't be late  >>>>>>>>>>>>
Chris deHahn....CdH....Digital Equipment Shrewsbury MA USA
dehahn@shr.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: THE doh ROSTER
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:26:57 GMT

	Keep doh #000001066 on ready reserve.  I'll know within two weeks
if the XLH is mine or not.

	Story to be told in a later posting.

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Yuppie Harleys, NEW BIKE, rantings
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:35:35 GMT


>It is time again for the regular ranting and raving at
>the yuppie scum who just bought a brand new
>Harley as their first bike or are about to. 

>GET A SOUL!

>Ach!  It didn't work.  I'm still pissed.  OK, let's
>try again.  YOU DIDN'T BUY A HARLEY BECAUSE THERE HASN'T
>BEEN A _REAL_ HARLEY BUILT SINCE 1960.  Ahhh, much better.

    Where did 1960 come from? 1957 was the last hardtail*.
'52 was the last flathead*. '36 was when they started that sissy
recirculating oil system. '17 was when they started that sissy
electric light system. '15 was when they started using that wannabe
timed breather. NO! wait a minute! They haven't made a real Harley
since Bill Harley retired, since then they've all been Davidsons!


Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
	"Hard asses ride hardtails"
			Roaddirt  1958
=====================================================================





Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re:  Oil Cooler Questions
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:12:39 GMT


>Wow, really?  I know many cycles overheat in stop and go traffic in
>the hot summer, but are you saying there is an overheating problem
>just riding 20 miles?  Is that just the Sportster 1200, or are there
>others?  What causes this problem?

   No, that means that if you ride only short distances on an open
road with no traffic, an oil cooler will not contribute enough to
the wellfare of your engine to make the instalation worthwhile.


'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

*************************************************************
   "Those twins are nice, but since I put in that Plymouth 4
    engine, there aint a Harley, Indian, or Exelcior that can
    touch my Henderson!"
                        Grandmother 1936
=============================================================
 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: garrett@math.rice.edu (David Garrett)
Subject: Re: lane-splitting etiquette
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:38:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.185943.27163@spdc.ti.com> serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>In article <27M902dv2fGz01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger) writes:
>>Howdy all:
>>
>>This is aimed at riders who live in CA (and other states where lane 
>>splitting (or "lane sharing") is legal. After moving and having to 
>
>Is it really legal, or just tolerated?  My understanding is that it is NOT
>legal, but the authorities tolerate it.  Somebody have any actual code 
>references that they can site.

It is in fact legal in California. 

>But just imagine how our image could be helped if you didn't lane split at all

Just imagine how much more efficient use of the road could be made if it 
were legal here in Texas. I have an air-cooled motor in my <non-Harley brand 
censored> and I'm damn sure not going to sit and let the motor fry if I'm 
caught in bumper-to-bumper traffic. I'll choose to split the lanes every 
time, legal or not.

People that don't like bikes to begin with aren't going to change their 
opinion based on whether a few people are lane-splitting or not. While I 
don't go out of my way to irritate non-riders, and I am a member of the 
AMA because I believe they are quite effective in standing up for our 
rights in legislative matters, I'm not terribly concerned what John Q. 
Public thinks of motorcyclists if it means I have to change my behavior 
in order to appease people that don't have a clue as to what it's all about 
to begin with. 

Dave


	Dave Garrett		      		garrett@math.rice.edu  
  Department of Mathematics		      standard disclaimers apply      
       Rice University		      	     ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++    
         Houston, TX			          Knowledge is Power




Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls)
Subject: Re: lane-splitting etiquette
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:19:40 GMT

In article <BzDDCM.ExH@rice.edu> garrett@math.rice.edu (David Garrett) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.185943.27163@spdc.ti.com> serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>>In article <27M902dv2fGz01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger) writes:
>>>Howdy all:
>>>
>>>This is aimed at riders who live in CA (and other states where lane 
>>>splitting (or "lane sharing") is legal. After moving and having to 
>>
>It is in fact legal in California. 
>

It is not legal in California, but it is not illegal either. There are
no laws stating that you cannot "share" the lane. If you are doing 
something stupid and piss off a cop, there are several other laws and
infractions that he can write you up for, but not specifically "lane
splitting". As long as you are not swerving, lane splitting at 70+ mph,
or generally being a dangerous asshole, the cops won't bother you.

Jolly Roger