From: martin@unislc.uucp (Martin Cryer)
Subject: Re: 2Re: Info about A Serie
Reply-To: martin@unislc.UUCP (Martin Cryer,D1Z01,5754)
Organization: Unisys, Salt Lake City
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:33:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.065208.6824@timesink.chi.il.us> harry@timesink.chi.il.us (Harold Platypus) writes:
>In article <AMPU25444AC7D6@MPA15AB> MPA15AB!COMPSYSU@TRENGA.tredydev.unisys.com writes:
>
>Open Systems? Don't bet on it... I don't believe Unisys/Convergent can
>make a decent UNIX box to save their souls. Unisys also has a terrible

Grrrr.

>reputation for bad customer support on the boxes they OEM'ed from dead
>and dying manufacturers like Arete/Arix and Sequent.

Mmmm....

Perhaps the support was bad for those past systems in your area. For
that I can only apologise. Having flown the world to support those
past systems, I thought we did a very creditable job, especially being
one of the first companies as Sperry, to volume supply UNIX systems to the
world wide market place.

We are rather proud of our home grown current UNISYS U6000/15/35/65 systems
and our SVR4.0/MP O/S. It has been a long time since UNISYS OEM-ed
NCR, ARIX and CCI systems. We do still OEM Sequent systems. Our
U6000/75/85 customers don't seem to mind that...

Our UNIX systems are not perfect, but the product seems to have VERY good
market acceptance and many multi-billion dollar corporations around
the world, run their business on them! They even sell well in Japan...

See also the AIM III benchmark results for Summer 1992. These are not
bad systems. We seemed to clean up there...

>
>PCs you say? Unisys is at least six months behind and two to three times
>more expensive on comparable machines from just about anyone; even from
>Mitsubushi which makes Unisys PCs. What happened to CTOS/BTOS? Can anyone

No. Mitsibushi does not make UNISYS PC's, it made some older Sperry
units, most of which were joint Sperry / Mitsibushi designs, from
here in Salt Lake. The micro IT was one of the first compact baby
AT systems and sold in huge numbers, especially for export. Most current
PCs are UNISYS designs and that trend is increasing.

The U6000/15/35/65 systems according to AIM III benchmarks, provide
exceptional bang per buck and the PC pricing seems highly
competitive with other major name manufacturers. No, they are not
as cheap as off-shore clones, but we are not providing that
kind of system. We are providing industrial quality systems
with a long service life, using quality, qualified peripherals. That
does add something to the price. See a current price list, you will
be surprised.

BTOS / CTOS is far from dead. It has achieved large market penetration
in certain business areas, like retail and financial systems. It is
a very good export seller, especially to certain European countries.

>give me one reason to become or to stay a Unisys customer! I wish them
>luck, but I honestly don't see Unisys lasting to the end of the decade.

Well, for a company everyone said is dead or dying, we have a stable
share price, a massively reduced debt, a rejuvinated product
line and 3 solid quarters of profit. Our customers and investors vote for us
time and time again with their money... All this recovery from
a year with > 1.3 billion dollar loss, in a world wide recession!
You cannot do that with rubbish product.

Remember, UNISYS is a company made up of individuals. We all try
to create the best product we can with the resources we have, for
what we believe our customers want. If you have had problems dealing
with the company, fine, take your specific problems to your account
rep. But blanket put downs of our current UNIX product line is a little
unfair. We are proud of what we have accomplished with our current generation
of UNIX product and hope to build on that in the following years. I hope
you will be impressed. I know there is a less than glorious past to
some of the past UNIX product line, but please evaluate us now on the product
we have and the direction we are taking. Likewise the company.

>
>But hey, I been hearing great things about C compilers for the A-series...
>- Harry

There is a nice C environment on the 2200 series too.

Rgds - Martin Cryer
UNIX SVR4.0/MP Development
UNISYS Salt Lake City

All opinions are my own and are NOT those of my employer.

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