From: radzy@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Radzykewycz)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Who cares
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:30:30 GMT
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A.

cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
> >>It's good that you do't/didn't do all of the above, but NOT doing is as
> >>good as condoning in practice.
> >>
> >
> >I reject this out of hand. You are witch burning and don't even realize it.
> 
> Oh so much bullshit.  He isn't witch burning.  All he's saying is that
> if you bitch and moan about White Oppression, why aren't you equally
> bitching about other forms?
> ...
> If you do nothing to rectify a bad situation, YOU ARE GUILTY OF
> PERPETRATING IT, even if you didn't get it started.

I hate to take this up, because when I do, I'll probably be
branded as holding a position I don't hold.

Janis, what have *YOU* done to rectify the situation of men who
are assumed to be evil -- the ex-husbands who want to see their
kids, the men who society refuses to give childcare to simply
because they're male, the men who are thrown in prison when a
woman would have been released for the same crime?


Don't buy into this philosophy!  Don't start arguing the "well,
you gotta help my cause or else your cause is shit" thing.  It
is NEVER helpful, and it often causes the problems to get
worse.

Listen, folks, each of us has a limited amount of time to right
the wrongs of the world.  The *best* place to start taking
action is simply to try to change your OWN behavior.  Just try
to avoid stereotypes.  When you watch your "divorce court", be
careful to avoid judging the cases based on the sex of the
people involved.  If you notice someone else who does judge the
cases that way, then you can point it out to them, but the most
important thing is to realize whether or not you're doing it
yourself.  And fight against it when you notice it happening to
you.  When you are in the position to hire someone, then don't
let prejudice influence your decision.

When you can, and you decide you want to, help causes more
actively than that, then BLESSINGS ON YOU!  I mean that!  You're
wonderful people, whether you're trying to right the wrongs
against women, or against non-whites, or against homosexuals and
bisexuals, or against trees in the forests.  What wrongs you're
trying to fix are less important than the fact that you're
trying to fix them.

But I'll say it again: the MOST IMPORTANT thing to do is to
recognize when YOU are doing something descriminatory and to try
to correct it instead of trying to deny it.  You don't even
have to be completely successful -- for example, whoever it was
that posted s/he was trying to minimize the detrimental impact
her/his life has on nature.  BLESSINGS TO YOU (even if I can't
remember who you are.)

(-:
Well, enough ranting.  I'll say this once more, just so that
people can take it out of context, and TRY to make my life
mizerable:

What have *YOU* done to help men's causes?
:-)

Bear hugs AND blessings to all activists!
Blessings to everyone else.

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