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From: ken@cs.cornell.edu (Ken Birman)
Subject: Re: Porting from V2.1 to 3.X
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:50:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.040420.27624@cs.wayne.edu> ceg@pandora.cs.wayne.edu (Carlos E. Galarce) writes:
>If I start a project using ISIS V2.1, what are the things
>to watch out for so that I can move my code to the 
>commercial version (3.X) of ISIS sometime in the future?
>

This shouldn't be any problem at all.  V3.0 is basically a superset
of V2.1.  Going in the other direction is harder, because a lot
of things have been added to V3.0, or fixed, or made to perform better.
So, if you develop on V3.0 you may find it hard to come up with a
working version of your code on V2.1 -- if your use of Isis is
complicated, that is.  For something really simple, you should be
able to port in either direction without trouble.
-- 
Kenneth P. Birman                              E-mail:  ken@cs.cornell.edu
4105 Upson Hall, Dept. of Computer Science     TEL:     607 255-9199 (office)
Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 (USA)      FAX:     607 255-4428
Newsgroups: comp.sys.isis
From: ken@cs.cornell.edu (Ken Birman)
Subject: Re: Info needed on ISIS
Keywords: Info, isis
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:43:09 GMT

In article <5968@transfer.stratus.com> harish@zen.stratus.com (Harish Manchaiah) writes:
>Hi,
>	I need some information about isis tool kit. I greatly appreciate 
>any reply from you.
>
>	1. Is isis toolkit available in public domain?

Yes, but only an old version that we no longer maintain.  The files
are ISISV21.TAR.Z and ISISV21-DOC.TAR.Z on ftp.cs.cornell.edu (in /pub)
and also in the UUNET and EUNET archives.

V2.1 is quite old but pretty solid; I only know of a dozen or so
bugs and all are pretty obscure.  But, it is very slow and scales poorly.

There is no public domain version of the more recent versions of ISIS,
but we think the system is priced pretty low as software goes.  V2.2 is
an academic version of the commercial product and is available for a $500
site license, on which we (obviously) lose money.  V3.0 is the normal
commercial release, is identical to V2.2, and is licensed according to
a schedule available from sla@isis.com

These systems are not available in source, except upon payment of a 
source license fee or under certain types of escrow agreements.  They
are distributed in binary and obscured source formats, respectively.

We have a variety of discount schedules for people who want to resell ISIS
in some way.  We try and maintain pricing that is fair and competitive.

>	
>	2. Can anyone develop applications with approval from  IDS, Inc.?

Yes.

>	3. Has anyone developed any applications to monitor networked 
>	environment of workstations? or Is it possible to develop one?

Certainly.  Our NMGR product does this, and our META system does a very
elaborate and sophisticated type of monitoring with reactive control that
is also fault-tolerant.  We plan to release a product based on META but
in the meantime a public domain version is available, free, from Cornell
(NMGR is an IDS product).  Information on Meta can be requested from
Prof. Keith Marzullo, marzullo@cs.cornell.edu.  NMGR information is
available from sla@isis.com
-- 
Kenneth P. Birman                              E-mail:  ken@cs.cornell.edu
4105 Upson Hall, Dept. of Computer Science     TEL:     607 255-9199 (office)
Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 (USA)      FAX:     607 255-4428
From: harish@zen.stratus.com (Harish Manchaiah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.isis
Subject: Info needed on ISIS
Keywords: Info, isis
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:08:41 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Hi,
	I need some information about isis tool kit. I greatly appreciate 
any reply from you.

	1. Is isis toolkit available in public domain?
	
	2. Can anyone develop applications with approval from  IDS, Inc.?

	3. Has anyone developed any applications to monitor networked 
	environment of workstations? or Is it possible to develop one?


Any feed back is greatly appreciated.

Please reply to my account.

harish@zen.cac.stratus.com

thanks in advance,
-harish
Newsgroups: comp.sys.isis
From: barry@citr.uq.oz.au (Barry Kitson)
Subject: Security in ISIS
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:38:07 GMT

Hi all,

	Thanks for your previous response (Ken) but it's only
encouraging me :^)

	How well is security handled by Isis?  I know about the
authentication necessary for joining, or becoming a client of
a group (presenting "credentials"), and about the remote 
execution password requirements (a la UNIX), but are there any
other useful security mechanisms built in?  Does Isis do anything
to protect the RPCs from being replayed or edited?  

	Also, is there any time service available on Isis?

	Thanks,

		Barry.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.isis
From: ken@cs.cornell.edu (Ken Birman)
Subject: Re: Security in ISIS
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:56:52 GMT

In article <barry.715250287@citr.uq.oz.au> barry@citr.uq.oz.au (Barry Kitson) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>	Thanks for your previous response (Ken) but it's only
>encouraging me :^)

Actually, thats what the user group is for!

>
>	How well is security handled by Isis?  I know about the
>authentication necessary for joining, or becoming a client of
>a group (presenting "credentials"), and about the remote 
>execution password requirements (a la UNIX), but are there any
>other useful security mechanisms built in?  Does Isis do anything
>to protect the RPCs from being replayed or edited?  

Now:
  The current ISIS system is pretty weak; you would need to use Kerberos
  (or DCE, which can be used with ISIS) and invoke Kerberos routines to
  encrypt messages and generate signatures; the group join and client
  interfaces in ISIS give you a chance to send in "credentials" which
  the group can check and reject.

  ISIS also has a way to filter messages so that only messages from
  acceptable sources are delivered.

  ISIS does not prevent you from replaying or editing messages, but
  in practice it would be very hard to forge message origin information
  or to "pun" by slipping messages into an ISIS message stream -- ISIS
  has a great deal of channel state and messages that surprise it get
  discarded.  Still, this is far from a security environment...

Future:

  Mike Reiter has written two TR's on a new, rigorous security architecture
  that he is implementing as part of a new ISIS system being developed at
  Cornell.  Mike's stuff is genuinely secure and goes well beyond this
  set of current options.  Mike gets email as reiter@cs.cornell.edu.
  The TR's are:

92-1287* &\parbox[t]{5in}{How to Securely Replicate Services.  Michael
Reiter and Kenneth Birman.  June 1992.}

92-1269* &\parbox[t]{5in}{Integrating Security in a Group Oriented
Distributed System (replaces 1239).  Michael Reiter, Kenneth Birman,
and Li Gong.  February 1992}

  Mike's architecture covers all your objectives, could live within
  an orange-book style multi-level security system, and does some nice
  things to achieve fault-tolerance and security both at once...
>
>	Also, is there any time service available on Isis?

No, we leave this to the OSF and UI Atlas people... Sounds like you need
DCE; then you can ask "can ISIS be used within DCE" and we can reply "sure".
(This is no problem...)
-- 
Kenneth P. Birman                              E-mail:  ken@cs.cornell.edu
4105 Upson Hall, Dept. of Computer Science     TEL:     607 255-9199 (office)
Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 (USA)      FAX:     607 255-4428
Newsgroups: comp.sys.isis
From: barry@citr.uq.oz.au (Barry Kitson)
Subject: Clusters, sites and scope in Isis
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:45:23 GMT

Hi all,

	Is it correct that an Isis cluster is a collection of
sites with identical "sites" files (i.e. that share the same
backbone)?

	If not, what is a cluster?

	Since the name server is built into the backbone (right?), 
does this mean that process (group) names are relative to a cluster?

	How does the application programmer communicate between
clusters and how are names specified?

	What is "scope" as defined in the sites file?  (Warning --
This could be a dumb question.)

	While I'm on a roll, I have a few other dumb questions:

	If an RPC can't find an interface reference (or whatever
Isis calls them) in the local cache, is a request made to all sites
in the backbone, or just one of them?  If only one, will it usually
have a copy of this info, or will it have to ask others?  (i.e. is
this data replicated at each backbone site?)

	Are there any products which allow interworking of Isis with
other similar systems? 

	That's probably enough for now :^)  

	Thanks in advance,

		Barry.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)
Subject: Re: ProTerm 3.0/VT-100 emulator/vi editor
Organization: Megadodo Publications, Light City, Ursa Minor Beta
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:36:40 GMT

pauley@VNET.IBM.COM ("P. H. Benson ", Paul) writes:
>derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink) writes:

>>I'm having a problem having my Proterm 3.0 emulate VT-100 on my APple IIGS

>There are a couple of things you can do.  You can reset the keys on the
>UNIX by the stty command.  I forget the actual values, but they are pretty
>obvious.  Or, you can just use the j, k, l, & m keys to move the cursor
>while in vi.

You can also set up your .exrc file.  Remember, you normally cannot use
the arrow keys in insert mode, and you don't ever want to hold them down
for repeating with ProTERM.  It tends to garble them into each other.
Anyway, here is how I have my .exrc file set up:

set autowrite wrapmargin=8 report=1
map     G:r ~/sig
map     !}fmt -72
map     {!}sort -b
map!  OP  A
map!  OQ  B
map!  OR  C
map!  OS  D
map!  Om  E
map!  Ol  F
map!  Oy  9
map!  Ox  8
map!  Ow  7
map!  Ov  6
map!  Ou  5
map!  Ot  4
map!  Os  3
map!  Or  2
map!  Oq  1
map!  Op  0
map!  OM  
map!  On  a a
map  h  1G
map  H  1G
map  F  G
map  V  
map  U  
map  T  k
map  S  j
map  Q   i
map  P   x
map  L   O
map  M   dd
map  K   D
map  J   DjdG$
map! OA  ka
map! OD  ha
map! OC  la
map! OB  ja
map! L  
map! Q  
map! R  

I even remapped my numeric keypad to be a hex keypad:

        A B C D
        7 8 9 -
        4 5 6 ,
        1 2 3 
         0  . ^M

Unfortunately the + and - keys on the GS aren't getting mapped to E and
F in vi, for some strange reason.

>Pauley
>GEnie: P.Benson1
>The opinions are my own and not IBM's.

-- gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)

///   ____   \\\  "Sorry, did I say something wrong?  Pardon me for
| |/ /    \ \| |   breathing, which I never do anyway so I don't even 
 \\_|\____/|_//    know why I bother to say it oh God I'm so depressed.
     \_)\\/        Here's another one of those self-satisfied doors.
       `-'         Life... don't talk to me about life...."
From: camvkkas@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Todd Schlesinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: APPLE //E mint, complete FORSALE
Keywords: apple forsale
Date: 24 Aug 92 03:10:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	COMPLETE Apple //e enhanced system for sale. includes:

	CPU with Applied Engineering video card w/ 256K extra RAM.
	Apple monochrome monitor
	Kensington system saver
	Joystick
	STAR SG-10 Dot matrix printer
	Modem, printer cards
	2 Disk drives
	lots of software, incl. business and games


	PRICE: $700 or b/o takes all!	


			reply to CAMVKKAS@UBVMS
From: gunncs@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Gunn, C. Stephen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: A2U Announces New Courses!!!
Date: 2 Sep 92 05:58:39 GMT
Organization: A2 University on GEnie


   A2 University Has Two New Courses
   ---------------------------------
   Thats Right!! A2 University, a Free service of the A2/A2PRO Roundtables
on GEnie, is starting its fall term. In addition to bringing back discussions
on all the old courses that have been taught in the past, we are sponsoring
two new courses. One, will be taught by Will Nelkin on Untra 4.0. (Ultra 4.0
is Randy Brandt's Extension to Ultra Macros). The second will be taught by
Andy McFadden (Yankit and NuLib Fame) on Data Compression. These are all
Free except for normal GEnie connect charges. If you would like more info
on A2U or GEnie, please drop me a line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
     C. Stephen Gunn          Inet  : gunncs@feserve.cc.purdue.edu 
     Purdue University        GEnie : A2PRO.STEVE
     Freshman Engineering     ASK ME ABOUT A2 UNIVERSITY ON GEnie
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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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     Purdue University        GEnie : A2PRO.STEVE
     Freshman Engineering     ASK ME ABOUT A2 UNIVERSITY ON GEnie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Apple's Education sales & stats
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:15:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.141552.9752@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:
:These are some stats about Apple's Education sales: (ripped w/o
:permission from Macweek)
:
:                             Installed     Market Share
:                                  Base     Percentage
:
:Apple (total)................ 1,503,639    65.6
:  Apple II................... 1,326,528    57.8
:  Apple II GS................    78,353     3.4
:  Macintosh..................    99,758     4.4



I don't understand this.  are these just the numbers installed in schools?
What is an Apple II - anything that is not an Apple IIgs or a Mac?  Why
do I add 1,326,528+78,353+99,758 and get a number different than 
1503639?

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: anthony@seas.smu.edu (Richard Anthony)
Subject: Re: NDA Ideas
Summary: Binaries
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:01:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.110314.2351@pro-apa.cts.com> bkogawa@pro-apa.cts.com (Bryan Ogawa) writes:

--Stuff deleted--


>2. I have heard of a version of Minesweeper for the GS. An acquaintance has
>it. Unfortunately, he is lazy and will not give me a copy :). I will have
>to see if I can get it from him soon.

 I have both a nda and a s16 version. Ill post them on the binaries before the
 end of the week

 jim


>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Bryan K. Ogawa  Undergraduate Computer Science and Engineering Major, UCLA
>                Jesus has done great things for me!     II Infinitum
>bkogawa@pro-palmtree.socal.com <-School Yr.  All Yr.-> bkogawa@pro-apa.cts.com
>--------------> From Pro-APA BBS,  (213) 463-9298 (D/CALAN) <-----------------


------------------
I am a guest on this account.  My opinions are my own.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: swiet@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Subject: Need kermit help
Keywords: kermit
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:52:47 GMT

	I have run into some problems with kermit.  Does anyone have email
addresses of the author(s)?
From: fisher2557@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Which files can I use?
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:18:59 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Another stupid question from a new guy here:

Is there any easy way of knowing if the programs in comp.binaries.apple2 are
for the gs only, or will work on a //c or ][+ or whatever?
or do we just have to download them and find out the hard way?  Some of those
are rather BIG to download and find out that it will not run on your computer!!

-- 

later,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Apple II RWTS codes.
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:55:59 GMT

David Seah writes:

>I was under the impression that the Locksmith fast 16 sector copier didn't do
>any denibblizing of the raw disk data...

  In fact, it does!  I disassembled the code once, and was quite amazed to see
that it performed both read and write conversions on the fly.  I don't remember
the full details now, but when reading it converts the 6-and-2 encoding back
into 256 bytes of data that is still partially encoded, but which can then be
converted back into 6-and-2 encoding on the fly.  Pretty interesting stuff.
  The upshot of which is that Locksmith can read many more sectors into
available memory than it could if it did not denibblize the raw data.  The
authors of Locksmith were obviously very clever programmers.

  Philip Stephens
  Labtam Australia Pty Ldt
  philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Renaissance...
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:18:04 GMT
Organization: BBS

I asked about if there was/will be an upgrade for Renaissance v1.03 about 2-3
months ago.  Someone said they were working on it...

So, where is it?

Will Harmonie drive DeskWriter?

Thanx.

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
cyprus systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: WULF@bonnie.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Wulf Hofbauer)
Subject: Hyper C OPSYS replacement
Organization: Physics Dept, University of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:12:45 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

I've been working on a replacement for the Hyper C OPSYS which soon will be
ready to be released. It will run on machines equipped with a 65c02 and most
propably on the //gs. It features increased execution speed, some bug fixes and
a completely new (but compatible) I/O system which allows for easy redirection.

I don't know how many of you (or anyone at all) might be interested in it, so
please send me a short mail. If there is enough interest in it, I will upload
it to the binaries group.

Coming "Real Soon Now..."

- Wulf



"Though this be madness, there is method in it." (Shakespeare)
+-------------------------------------+-----------------------+
! WULF@BONNIE.PHYSIK.UNI-STUTTGART.DE !  Apple // Enthusiast  !
+-------------------------------------+-----------------------+
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!                      Tel. 07141/602518                      !
+-------------------------------------------------------------+
From: Lance.Taylor-Warren@p1.f111.n213.z1.UUCP (Lance Taylor-Warren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RE: InterNet Reference/AppleNET
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:54:07 GMT


 MS>    Can anyone tell me where to find the "InterNet reference RFC-822"?
 MS> 
 MS>    Derek Fong, author of AppleNET BBS, has asked me to locate and obtain it
 MS> for him. He'd like to add a link-up to InterNet (comp.sys.apple2) from
 MS> his local BBS he runs. As well, he'll be using it to help him write network
 MS> capabilities in AppleNET v2.0. 
 MS> 
 MS> ..So is there an FTP site or some place I can find this 'RFC-822'
 MS> reference? 


Gee, how about NIC.DDN?  I believe that they have all the RFC's 

Lance



 * Origin: I'm a point off of The Daily Planet, are you? (1:213/111.1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: tooly@zelator.in-berlin.de (Theo Schneider)
Subject: MidiEX
Organization: Puplic-Access-Xenix-System
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:30:42 GMT

Hi there,
 
 a friend of mine is looking for an music program for the //gs.
  
  On the Mac side there is an porgram call 'Mac MidiEx'. Know anybody
  if
  there is such an program on the gs side.
	
	Best regards from Germany
	 
		Theo

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: hfs fst
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:11:23 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Aug29.075706.8761@serveme.chi.il.us> kgapp@gagme (Kevin Gapp) writes:
> Ok, here is a question about the HFS fst.  The other day I pooped a
> old mac disks (1-2 years old) into the gs.  A dialog box came up
> telling me that this was a MFS disk, and that System 6.0 can only read
> HFS disks.  Now I have two questions, the first is: What mac os used
> mfs?

MFS was the original Macintosh File System, used in all Macs prior to
the release of the Mac Plus.  MFS is significantly different from HFS
(Hierarchical File System) but current Mac system software supports
both systems.

On a Mac, if you format a 400k floppy disk, you will get an MFS disk
by default.  I believe you can force the system to create a 400k HFS
disk by holding down the option key at some point.  The same may apply
when formatting 800k disks (opposite order: the default is HFS).

> Her disk really is not that old, and contains a MacWrite 5.0
> document so I figured I could edit it with Teach, but sinces it is MFS
> I can't touch it.  Second, how different is MFS from HFS, and could a
> simple MFS FST be put together based around the HFS fst?

MFS is very different to HFS.  The main difference is that MFS doesn't
support directories (at least, not REAL ones: you can set up folders
in Finder, but all of the files are stored in the root directory).
It's disk space allocation is based around a file allocation table
(similar to MS-DOS) rather than the bitmap/extent system used by HFS.

In short, there are so many differences, it would basically be a
totally new FST.  Since MFS disks are uncommon, there wouldn't be much
point in Apple wasting its time writing an MFS FST, when it has much
more important things to do.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2