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From: linda@sunup.Sun.COM (Linda Knapp SE Sun Seattle 206-889-1326)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Modem-USRob. Sportster Probs.
Date: 4 Oct 1992 00:50:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunup.west.sun.com
Keywords: Modem US Robotics Sportster

Does anyone out there have the US Robotics Sportster 14400 Fax modem
hooked up and running? I have 2 in the office (new) which I am trying
to get running on a 4/490. They work -sortof- they just won't answer
until sometimes the 7th ring, sometimes 1st, sometimes 3rd.....Auto answer
is on and the codes claim that it is set to answer on the first ring but...
It doesn't look like it even sees the ring. On the one at home on a SS1
it doesn't answer at all ever. If you call in to it it rings once then goes to
a fast busy signal.

I can put other US Robotics modems in place with no problem but not these.
I am close to returning them but thought maybe someone had run into this.
Any help would be appreciated.

Linda

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Linda Knapp		linda.knapp@west.sun.com
Systems Engineer
Sun Microsystems Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: kobet@picker.com (Harry Kobetitsch)
Subject: Porting Motif
Organization: Picker International, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:52:48 GMT

I am trying to build Motif 1.1 sources on the Sun IPX.
Does anyone know why I get the following errors when
compiling the demo and the test suite (XtInherit
and XtToolkitInitialize)?
-- 
Picker International, Inc.
595 Miner Road
Highland Heights, Ohio 44143
Voice: 216-473-2624
From: ssurgui@ucdacm.denver.colorado.edu (Scott Surguine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: How To Boot From Tape Sun-3 Arch
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:57:12 GMT
Distribution: comp.unix.admin comp.unix.bsd

A Second Request For Help Here...

Have tried many variations on the following to boot 3/160 from a 
Sun Dist. Tape For Sun OS 3.0b.

    All day have tried variations of the following...

    --- b st(0,0,0)install
    --- b st(0,4,0)install
    --- b st(0,4,3)install

    What has me confused as I attempted to allude to in last post are
    the values for c,u,p for the following ...

    b st(c,u,p) I'm pretty damn sure c=0 but not so sure about the 
    others.

    Pertinent Info   ---- Sun 3/160
                          Sun OS 3.0B
                          1 Internal Tape Drive Only.

    What Is Confusing me is how I used to perform this task on Sparc's
    
    Command was b sd(0,6,2)

    And I either assumed or was told that 6=target # of the device.

    Here I have no idea of the target # for this internal drive.

    
    ONCE AGAIN, ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
    Scott A. Surguine
    E-Mail --  s3surgui@copper.denver.colorado.edu
    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: janet@cs.uwa.oz.au (Janet Jackson)
Subject: Re: How to move print spool files to another queue.
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:59:23 GMT

In <1992Sep23.221808.3610@csoc.COM> benny@csoc.COM (Benny Clark) writes:

There's an article on this in SunExpert magazine, January 1992.
It includes a shell script for rerouting print jobs.

SunExpert is a great magazine, and free, too.
Subscription enquiries can be sent to circ@expert.com.
(I have no connection with them except for being a subscriber.)

Janet Jackson
<janet@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Systems Administrator
Department of Computer Science
The University of Western Australia
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: ID'ing Sun models remotely
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:30:49 GMT
Organization: cic

mikebo@i88.isc.com (Michael Borowiec) writes:

>Is there a way to identify the various Sun models within an architecture.
>For example, I want to be able to tell the difference between and SLC
>(4/20) and an ELC (4/25) without having to get up and walk over to the
>machine... Is there a way to do this?

Run this on the machine you want to identify:

	grep ` hostid | sed -e 's/^\(..\).*/\1/' ` /usr/include/mon/idprom.h

On my IPX, it gives me this:

	#define IDM_SUN4C_50            0x57    /* It might be slower */

You have to know the mapping of the numbers to the models, though.
Here are some:

SUN2_MULTI	Sun 100U, Sun-2/120, Sun-2/170
SUN2_VME	Sun-2/130, Sun-2/160 (?)
SUN3_CARRERA	Sun-3/75, Sun-3/1x0
SUN3_M25	Sun-3/50
SUN3_SIRIUS	Sun-3/2x0
SUN3_PRISM	Sun-3/110
SUN3_F		I've never seen this
SUN3_E		Sun-3/E, Double Eurocard board
SUN4		Sun-4/2x0
SUN4_COBRA	Sun-4/110
SUN4_STINGRAY	Sun-4/3x0
SUN4_SUNRAY	Sun-4/4x0
SUN3X_PEGASUS	Sun-3/4x0
SUN3X_HYDRA	Sun-3/80
SUN4C		SS 1
SUN4C_60	SS 1
SUN4C_40	SS IPC
SUN4C_65	SS 1+
SUN4C_20	SS SLC
SUN4C_75	SS 2
SUN4C_30	not yet used
SUN4C_50	SS IPX
SUN4C_70	not yet used
SUN4C_80	not yet used
SUN4C_10	not yet used
SUN4C_45	not yet used
SUN4C_05	not yet used
SUN4C_85	not yet used
SUN4C_32	not yet used
SUN4C_HIKE	not yet used
SUN4M_690	SS 6x0MP

Note that there are no entries for:

Sun-3/60 (or is *that* the M25?), Sun-368i, SS 10

I can explain the last: this is SunOS 4.1.2, not 4.1.3 :-)
Anybody with a 3/60 or a Toadrunner reading this? What's
your hostid like?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: roihar@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: adding memory to SPARC II... what needs to be done...
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:13:28 GMT

I'm looking for information on adding memory to a SPARCstation 2
.. does anyone know what I must do? Do I have to inform the kernel
as to how much memory is available? Is imemtest an adequate diagnostic for
the installation of new memory. I would RTFM but once again SUN leaves me
in limbo trying to find what FM!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: stewart@tweety.cis.udel.edu (John Stewart)
Subject: Re: Internet time standard?
Keywords: time, standard, rtime
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:11:32 GMT

In article <unruh.717464248@physics.ubc.ca> unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh) writes:
>
>Does there exist an internet time standard that I can consult for the
>correct current time ( eg, like NBS or Naval Observatory, both of which
>have modem time services) For example is there a machine kept on
>accurate time that one could use rdate on?

Better than rdate, there is a protocol called the Network Time Protocol
that does just what you ask.  The preferred implementation is "xntp" or
"xntpv3" and can be found with anonymous FTP on louie.udel.edu somewhere
under /pub/ntp.  To answer your question, then, there are a number of
machines scattered throughout the world with an external clock source
(like a radio clock [WWV], satellite clock [GPS], cesium beam, etc.;
these are called Stratum 1 servers from telephony terminology) that will
allow your machine(s) running NTP to poll them for accurate time.  Note
that "xntp" is quite a hog, so whether you run the software on all
machines or not depends on how important the synchronization is to you.
If it isn't a high priority, you can synchronize one machine and simply
have your other machines run an hourly ntpdate (like rdate, but better).

For more information, I refer you to the experts on
comp.protocols.time.ntp.

Good luck.

/jws
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ctan@solomon.technet.sg (Tan Chee Weei)
Subject: Q: local primary swap with remote nfs root?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:53:50 GMT

We have a workstation with a local disk that is set up for Solaris 2. However,
the same machine was previously configured as a diskless client. I can
now either boot up in 4.1.1 or Solaris 2 from the boot prompt by specifying
to boot from the local disk (for Solaris 2) or from the network (for 4.1.1)

Since I have a local disk, I want to use the swap partition on that disk 
when booting either OS. This configuration is neither diskless or dataless.
My question is, how can I specify that I want the primary swap device to
be partition b of the local disk. I assume the boot process makes use of
the info in the /etc/bootparams file for the server. Remove the swap
keyword line for the client in the bootparams file causes the machine
to hang after reporting that the root partition is from an nfs mounted
directory. (Booting vmunix). I've tried reconfiguring the kernel to
explicitly specify swap on sd0b on a config line but the same problem 
occurs. There isn't sufficient info in the 4.1.1 manuals to determine
how to set up bootparams for this or what must be done for such a 
configuration, if it is at all possible. I am convinced it is possible as
booting with the -a option allows me to use the root path from the
bootparams file as well as manually specify the primary swap device as a
local partition. My problem is how to set this up so that it will 
automatically boot up in such a configuration.

Any help on this matter will be much apprciated. Thanks.

CW
From: gretchen@cco.caltech.edu (Gretchen Millendore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Changing Login Name
Date: 1 Oct 1992 02:12:07 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

Hi!  I have a user who just got married and would like to change her
login name (we standardly log in with last names).  I am looking for a
simple way to do this without screwing up her rights everywhere, etc.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Gretchen
First Quadrant Corp
gretchen@ugcs.caltech.edu
From: wca0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (W. Cody Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SunOS Security Hole?
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:19:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Sep28.001508.15555@ra.msstate.edu>, fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Pe
ters) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.183306.21669@panix.com> brian@panix.com (Brian Childs) sa
ys:
>: I think I have found a security hole in either SunOS or PC-NFS,
>
>What you have found is a security hole in the way that your server is
>configured.  Arguably PC-NFS should not behave in the way that it does...
>but even that wouldn't prevent someone from writing their own rsh that
>does whatever they like.
[etc...]

Doesn't Sun ship their systems open?  This is actually a "hole" Sun KNOWS
about...when I upgraded to 4.1.2 this summer, it was INSTALLED this way, a.d I
learned from my Sr. SysAdmin (who went through Sun's System Administration
course) that this hole existed.

If there are any listeners AT Sun Corp. out there...

WHY ARE THEY SHIPPED THIS WAY IF THEY POSE SUCH A SECURITY RISK?????

-- 
"We are socially inept...we NEED alcohol."
                                -KJ

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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: ypbind -ypsetme (was Re: Problem with NIS (ypbind) with subnetted in)
Date: 5 Oct 1992 15:36:41 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Oct2.200812.4343@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner) writes:
>If you must use ypset, start ypbind with the "-ypsetme" option instead. 

I agree.

>But authentication is based on IP addresses, which can be spoofed.

I've long wondered why "ypbind -ypsetme" doesn't use a Unix domain socket,
so that it wouldn't be possible for another machine to connect to it and
attempt such a spoof.  It could also put the socket file in a directory
accessible only to root, to ensure that only root can issue such ypsets.

-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
Subject: Zmodem support in SunOS 4.1.2?
Reply-To: motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:49:06 GMT

Is there support for Zmodem (or x/ymodem) file
transfers in the SunOS?  Is there a command 
to do this?  Could it be a third party tool?

Thanks, John
-- 
=  Enjoy!          John DeRosa, Motorola, Inc, ESMR Development  =
=  thanks          derosa@ssd.comm.mot.com                       =
=  a 10^6          N1111@applelink.apple.com                     =
From: mikebo@i88.isc.com (Michael Borowiec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: ID'ing Sun models remotely
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:19:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Sep30.211942.29381
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

Is there a way to identify the various Sun models within an architecture.
For example, I want to be able to tell the difference between and SLC
(4/20) and an ELC (4/25) without having to get up and walk over to the
machine... Is there a way to do this?
- Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.elm,comp.mail.misc
From: wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: NFS mounting /var/spool/mail && file locking
Organization: Trailing Edge Technologies, Mountain View, CA
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 02:46:06 GMT

casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik) writes:
>Intr is not the opposite of hard. We have all our nfs mounted
>filesystems mounted hard. All nfs filesystems mounted r/w should
>be mounted hard or lots of things will break at random moments.

Some would argue (I'm not sure if I personally have the energy) that
software written with proper error handling *won't* break when the
filesystem is temporarily unavailable.

In other words: they break, but they shouldn't.

w. <wisner@netcom.com> <wisner@EBay.Sun.COM> Gryphon Gang Mountain View CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: PC-Xview crashes our PC very often.......
Organization: SETT Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:05:07 GMT


We have installed PC-Xview on our 486 recently (under
Windows environment). We have observed that the PC
crashes very often and we are sure it is because
of PC-xview but don't know why. We have to switch off
the machine and switch it on to boot, CNTRL-ALT-Delete
doesn't reboot the machine.

If you have similar experience and have solved the problem
please email me your response.

thanks


-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: br.pct@RLG.Stanford.EDU (Peter C. Tam)
Subject: Re: Configuring an ALM-2 for autobaud and disconnect
Organization: Research Libraries Group, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:33:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.025433.13118@ccu.umanitoba.ca> mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills) writes:
>From: mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills)
>Subject: Re: Configuring an ALM-2 for autobaud and disconnect
>Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:54:33 GMT
>In <peter.717718742@merlin> peter@merlin.acadiau.ca (Peter Steele) writes:
>
>>modified to achieve the behaviour we want, along with the
>>file /etc/ttytab. I've defined the lines as Auto-baud in
>>/etc/ttytab, and have no problem connecting at 9600 baud.
>>Lower baud rates do not appear to set up properly. Also,
>>the lines do not disconnect on a hang up as we want.
>
>In /etc/ttytab, you should specify ``on remote'' for the modem lines,
>rather than ``off local''.  (Actually, any string except ``local'' will
>do it.)  Then, the ttysoftcar command in /etc/rc will set those lines
>to respond to the DCD signal from the modem.  You also need two hardware
>signals, DTR and DCD, in the wiring to the modem, and the modem must
>be configured to use those signals.  When a user logs out, the ALM-2
>will drop the DTR signal, and the modem should then drop the connection.
>When a user disconnects, the modem will drop DCD, and the login shell
>should receive an end-of-file and terminate, so that init starts
>another getty on the line.
>-- 
>-Gary Mills-         -Networking Group-          -U of M Computer Services-

Hi,
  How do you bring up a SLIP driver that accepts speed parameter as
the login shell, or better yet, bring up SLIP driver after login passwords?
  & How about terminating SLIP driver on disconnect......?
  I am shooting for not having the SLIP driver as daemon always in system
first. Then, may be login password security.....
  Thanks.

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From: stewart@tweety.cis.udel.edu (John Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Changing Login Name
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:52:59 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1admpoINN9hi@gap.caltech.edu> gretchen@cco.caltech.edu (Gretchen Millendore) writes:
>Hi!  I have a user who just got married and would like to change her
>login name (we standardly log in with last names).  I am looking for a
>simple way to do this without screwing up her rights everywhere, etc.
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

"Rights" are checked by user-id, not user-name.  Therefore, changing
the textual user-name, but keeping the same user-id should not have
any effect on her "rights."  Two immediate issues I can think of that
*would* be affected are group memberships and hard-coded paths (i.e.,
if the name of her home directory is changing as well).

Good luck.

/jws
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: bouton@gertrude.cms.udel.edu (Katherine Bouton)
Subject: MAil to PRODIGY
Reply-To: bouton@gertrude.cms.udel.edu
Organization: U of Delaware, College of Marine Studies / Lewes
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:44:36 GMT

Can I send mail from Internet to PRODIGY?
If so what is the addressing convention.
Thanks
katherine
ps i apologize if this is the wrong place for this question


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mikey@yoho.carleton.ca (Mike G McFaul)
Subject: Re: Size of swap file
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:36:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.183327.2025@fripp.ri.cadre.com> jh@cadre.com writes:
>>What is the general guideline for the size of a swap file?  I have two
>>SPARC-2's running 4.1.1 and I just upgraded from 16M of RAM to 64M.  I
>>have 16M swap files right now....do I need to increase them or not?
>>And should they be increased to 64M or somewhere between 16M and 64M?
>
>I've always set up my systems so that my swap space >= twice my RAM.  I've
>heard that you can go as low as swap = RAM, but that causes some bottlenecks.
>

This 'rule' is bogus... The amount of swap should be at least equal to
the amount of RAM you have but does not need to be larger. The real
question that should be asked is what kind of processes are you
running on the machine? Do they require lots of memory? If a 'pstat
-s' shows that you consistantly are only using 24 Megs of swap, you
only probably need 32 Megs of swap, and you probably also only need 32
Meg of RAM. If however you run huge cadcam systems that eat memory you
will need more swap. If you have enough money to buy as much memory as
you have swap the machine will run much better.

In the case above which prompted this thread, the machine was already
working in 16 Meg (the amount of swap). If the only reason for
purchasing extra memory was because they had the money, they are
wasting the memory. If the load on the machines changed to require
more swap, then the swap should be allocated and memory added to
enhance the performance of the machine.

>Rumor has it that if your swap < RAM, then you won't utilize anything over
>the amount of swap you've allocated, but I can't verify that.
>

This is correct sort of... the extra memory will be used for I/O cache but
regular processes will not have access to it. I'm sure folks will correct
me if I'm wrong... :-)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: stmckenna@nap.amoco.com
Subject: Re: Help with Connecting a Modem
Reply-To: stmckenna@nap.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:48:29 GMT

In article 717164671@mica, derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa) writes:
>there should be no process running associated
>with this modem.  Once a distant modem connects
>to the local modem, a getty process is spawned
>and a login prompt is displayed.  After login,

No, it's normal to have a getty running on the line whenever no one's
logged in.  It's the getty that watches for carrier detect and syncs
speed with the modem once carrier is there.

But I've seen the same problem you have with a 9600+ baud modem (Boca
1440E).  Connection is made, modem's CD light comes on, then 2 seconds
later it drops.  My 2400 baud modems don't do this.  I still haven't
figured it out.

My ttytab and rc are much the same as yours.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Steve McKenna				stmckenna@nap.amoco.com
Amoco Research Center			voice:  708-961-7846
Naperville, IL  60566			fax:    708-420-5252
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: smacheso@ford.is.wdi.disney.com (Steve Acheson)
Subject: Help with strange dump behavior, SIGSEGV() ABORT!
Summary: Dump aborts.
Organization: Walt Disney Imagineering
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:57:16 GMT

Ok,
 I've had my share of fun with this and I'm ready to reveal my ignorance of
Sun's...
Here is what I get:

machine-26: dump 0 /
  DUMP: SIGSEGV()  ABORTING!
Abort

It doesn't matter what options I give to dump, I can give bogus filesystems, as
long as the requisite paramaters are supplied.  I can give it a correct
tapedrive via f and a bogus tapedrive, no different.  The only difference is
with the [wW] options, I get:

machine-27: dump w
Dump these file systems:
machine-28:

So, any ideas.  The dumpdates file is existant, but empty.

Thanks,

Steve Acheson

--
Steve Acheson                                        
Walt Disney Imagineering                             sma@disney.com
1401 Flower St.                                      (818) 544-7835
Glendale, Ca.  91221
From: szc@.IMSI.COM (Simon Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: getty not responding
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:06:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC
Originator: szc@titan

I've a Telebit T2500 modem connected to my IPC as a News and Mail server,
and it is configured as a dial-in and dial-out port.

Since I've upgraded the system from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2, I've not been able to
dial in to this workstation.  When I first reboot the system, I was able
to dial in and the DTR on the modem would stay on, but after a period of
time(overnight), the DTR on the modem would stay down and would not come
back till I reboot the system again.

I've tried different modem and it did not make a difference. I've 
reconfigured the ttytab file and remake the device in /dev, and that was
no help either.

I am suspecting there is something wrong with the kernel and I might need
a patch to get this fix.  Is there anyone out there has seen this problem
and have a solution for me.

Please send respond thru e-mail, and thank you in advance.

-- 
        Simon Z. Chan - Sys. Engineer	|   szc@IMSI.COM
 Investment Management Services, INC.   |   (212) 339-2786 phone
        12 E. 49th Street, 35th Floor	|   (212) 339-2854 fax
                   New York, NY 10017	|   Dont't Panic!
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