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From: sdyck@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sheldon Dyck)
Subject: I'm think about getting a Mac, but ...
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:08:54 GMT

Hi, I'm a long time Dos user who is going to be buying a new computer
in a few weeks.  I have been looking at Macs and they look like really
nice computers.  The only reservations I have about buying one is that
it seems like they don't have resolutions higher then 640*480.  Unless
you want to get the video board from NEC or some other expensive 
solution.  Is this true?  If I'm paying $3000(cdn) I would expect higher 
resolutions then 640*480.  Could someone clear this up for me please.
Thanks in advance.


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From: jimmosk@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jim J Moskowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Programmer's switch for SE
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:46:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I purchased a used SE which has no programmer's switch.
Any idea where I can buy one... or how to make one?

Thanks,   Jim
--
_______________________________________________________________________________
Jim Moskowitz                   "All you can logically say about 
jimmosk@eniac.seas.upenn.edu     a guy who thinks he's a poached egg
                                 is that he's in the minority." - James Burke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: mikek@fred.Colorado.EDU (Mike Kranzdorf)
Subject: GemStone from Servio (OODB) ?
Originator: mikek@fred
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, OCS
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:41:48 GMT

From the MacWorld Networking Guide, page 384:
"An example of an object-oriented database for the Mac is GemStone, from
Servio Corporation."

Does this really exist? Anyone have any info or a phone number for Servio?
While I'm asking, are there any OODBs for the Mac? Thanks,
-mike-


internet: mikek@fred.colorado.edu
uucp:{ncar|nbires}!boulder!mikek
From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: What happened to reflex for the Mac?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:36:29 GMT
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA 95131

In article <C1Fyvw.464@optimla.aimla.com> lex@optimla.aimla.com (Lex van Sonderen) writes:
>Does anyone know what happened to Reflex or Reflex Plus for the Mac?
>Last sold by Borland.
>
>I still like it, but the version I have Reflex Plus 1.01 is not 32-bit clean.

Reflex was first known as Interlace until Borland picked it up.  After
releasing Reflex Plus, Borland decided to drop support of Mac
products.  The same thing has happened to FullWrite Professional which
went to Borland when they acquired Ashton-Tate.

-- 
Chuck Fisher                                        (800) 359-7997 Work
ncselxsi system administrator                       (415) 964-2819 Home
uucp:  ...!netcom!ncselxsi!fisher
From: cpaulu@bu.edu (Chris Paulu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FoxBase+Mac Books + Dev Libraries
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:55:10 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


I got a book called Dynamics of FoxBase+/Mac Programming by George
F. Goley IV, published by Dow Jones-Irwin.  It's an acceptable
primer on creating FoxBase applications, though it seems to have been
rather hastily put together.  Anyway it got me started.  Oh, it
was published in 1990.
Good luck.

Chris Paulu
cpaulu@bu.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: dalheime@rzdspc34.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Matthias "Kalle" Dalheimer)
Subject: Re: Databases from C or Pascal
Organization: University of Hamburg, FRG
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:35:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.000502.21026@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>, enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Darrell Merrick) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan22.141540.3712@unix.brighton.ac.uk>, pdt@unix.brighton.ac.uk (taylor) writes:
|> > 
|> > Does anyone know of a relational database package that can be accessed
|> > from THINK C or pascal?
|> 
|> 4th Dimension cannot be called
|> externally, but it has it's own internal language, similar to Pascal, for 
|> processing. 
|>
4th Dimension *can* be accessed from other languages and (easier) you can access procedures
written in another language if you purchase the "External Kit" from ACI.

Kalle Dalheimer (dalheime@informatik.uni-hamburg.de)
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FileMaker Pro troubles
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:37:53 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

89611628s@sgcl1.unisg.ch writes:

>I have one Database which contains products, another which contains
>orders, and a third which contains files in which i calculate the cost
>derivated from the products and orders.

    Why have you chosen to use 3 files for this? Couldn't you just
calculate the costs within the file that contains the orders? This could
possibly make your life a little easier.

>If I wanna calculate the price, do I have to copy every product and qty
>ordered in my database, or is there a function which makes direct
>reference to another database ?

    Actually, what you want to use are lookup fields. These fields
perform the function you are looking for, but they are not live direct
links between the files. If you have some prices in the file already
calculated, and then that price changes in the product file (which is
where I'm assuming you have the product prices stored) you will have to
tell the lookup fields in the other file that use that product's price
to go and get the current price.

-Hades
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: 4D Incrementing Field Integers
Organization: BeHereNow
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:51:13 GMT

I go the answer to my question, thanks to everyone that
replyed.

Jeff-
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FMP v2.0 & QuickTime
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:28:56 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

Simon_Kok@mindlink.bc.ca (Simon Kok) writes:

>I wish to use FileMaker Pro v2.0 to catalog all of the QuickTime movies that
>I've captured with my new VideoVision.  Can somebody please tell me if this
>is a 'safe' application to use?  Does the movie get stored in the FileMaker
>Pro document?  Does it cause slowness in searches etc?

    I see no problem with using FM Pro to catalogue your Quicktime
movies. The picture field in FM Pro stores something like the first
frame of a Quicktime movie in the database with a pointer to the file
that the movie is contained in. There should be no slowdown on
searching.

-Hades
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: aaron@noproblem.uchicago.edu (Aaron L. Bratcher)
Subject: Re: What happened to reflex for the Mac?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.databases
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:18:06 GMT

In article <C1Fyvw.464@optimla.aimla.com>, lex@optimla.aimla.com (Lex van
Sonderen) wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what happened to Reflex or Reflex Plus for the Mac?
> Last sold by Borland.
> 
> I still like it, but the version I have Reflex Plus 1.01 is not 32-bit clean.
> 
> Thanx


Borland no longer sells it. (Acutally, I think that they no longer sell
anything for the Macintosh)
From: 89611628s@sgcl1.unisg.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: FileMaker Pro troubles
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:38:38 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

I have a problem in my FileMakerPro 2.0 Database:

I have one Database which contains products, another which contains orders, and
a third which contains files in which i calculate the cost derivated from the
products and orders.

PRICE = PRODUCT * QTY ORDERED

If I wanna calculate the price, do I have to copy every product and qty
ordered in my database, or is there a function which makes direct reference to
another database ?

Thanx for ur support.

Ralph Schwegler, Students of Economics at SG University of Economics,
Switzerland
From: eaton@pacersoft.com (Mark W. Eaton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: What happened to reflex for the Mac?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:59:32 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.databases
Organization: Pacer Software, Inc.

In article <C1Fyvw.464@optimla.aimla.com>, lex@optimla.aimla.com (Lex van
Sonderen) wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what happened to Reflex or Reflex Plus for the Mac?
> Last sold by Borland.
> 
> I still like it, but the version I have Reflex Plus 1.01 is not 32-bit clean.
> 
> Thanx
> 
> Lex van Sonderen

Borland dropped support when they left the Mac market.  I've heard of some
sort
of users' group which is trying to keep it alive, but don't know any
details.

Mark W Eaton
Pacer Software, Inc.
eaton@pacersoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.database,comp.sys.mac.databases
From: danielg@med.unc.edu (Daniel G. Sinclair)
Subject: seeking macintosh shareware database or .....
Originator: danielg@saluda
Keywords:  mac, database, shareware, inventory
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:28:23 GMT


	I am looking for a shareware database package for the macintosh
(system 6.1.5 and 7 compatible), which is easily programmable (with a 
forms tool (so that I won't have to write code) or a dBase style code). 
Alternatively, a database for inventory or rolodex info would be adequate.
I would prefer not using hypercard, but beggars can't be choosers.  : )
Are there any such things on the net?  If so, could you email me 
a list of ftp sites?



-- 
[-]   They hated me without a cause. (Jesus)
[-]
[-]   When our humanity is in danger, the artistic spirit suddenly lives.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Darrell Merrick)
Subject: Re: Databases from C or Pascal
Organization: Lockheed
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:05:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.141540.3712@unix.brighton.ac.uk>, pdt@unix.brighton.ac.uk (taylor) writes:
> 
> Does anyone know of a relational database package that can be accessed
> from THINK C or pascal?
> 

You can call Oracle from Think C or Think Pascal (as well as MPW C and Pascal).
This can be done by embedding SQL calls directly in your code.  This works
much the same way as making regular SQL calls except you are tying Oracle 
fields to variables in your program for the selection or insertion of data.  
The embedded SQL calls are translated by an Oracle precompiler into a lower 
level form which can be understood by the compiler.  Oracle for Macintosh 
includes the precompilers and libraries for doing this.

Oracle and 4th Dimension are the major database packages on the Mac right now.
Oracle is the only one that is SQL-based.  4th Dimension cannot be called
externally, but it has it's own internal language, similar to Pascal, for 
processing. 


Darrell Merrick
Lockheed Artificial Intelligence Center
merrick@titan.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: pjyamamo@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Yamamoto)
Subject: Excel "databases"...
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:50:48 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Hi!

Has anybody tried using the "database" mode/functions of Excel?
Anybody know of any demos or samples available?

Peter
From: dlittle@sscvx1.ssc.gov (DENNIS LITTLE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: 4th Dimension questions
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:35:00 GMT
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

I'm very new to programming in databases in general and 4th Dimension in 
general and have several questions.

1.  Is there a way to copy fields?  I have a few databases which
    have the same setup but only one character difference in the 
    name and it would be nice to be able to just input the first
    set and then copy and modify the rest.

2.  Is there a way to set up a 1 character alphanumeric field?
    according to what I've read so far, alpha fields must be at
    least 2 characters long and I need this one to only allow one
    character.

me
From: gelhard@quaker
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Mailing list Managment software?
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:52:10 GMT

Does anyone know of any mailing list managment software for the MAC?

Thanks in advance,

Barbara Gelhard

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: osuna@isi.ethz.ch (Jose Osuna)
Subject: *.sit and *.cpt files
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:13:44 GMT

Sorry if this is not the right group to address to.

I am a completely new Mac user. May I ask you the following stupid
question:

How can I use *.sit and *.cpt files on a Mac? I copied them from
funic.funet.fi

Please answer to my e-mail address osuna@isi.ethz.ch

Thanks

Jose
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: aa192@Freenet.carleton.ca (Graydon Patterson)
Subject: Re: 4D Auto Assign Related Value Ain't Workin!
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:00:27 GMT


I've never used the auto assign myself...so I can't couche
for it working. I might suggest that you FIRST save the Clinet
file before you go to the included layout. By saving it, may make it
accessible to the AD file.
What I usually do is create a separate file to generate unique
ID numbers for a file. Then I use an assign command when the
related file is created...i.e.
Create Client in the input layout. This does NOT automatically
create a new AD file.
Next, create a new AD file, either automatically upon a new
Client file, or when the input AD layout is opened. (I test
to see if the unique ID number filed is empty, if so I assign
it the ONE file unique ID number). 
Next save the AD file.

Hope this helps...
--
From: dbox@valentine.ics.uci.edu (Don Box)
Subject: 4D Chooser External Wanted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Reply-To: dbox@ics.uci.edu (Don Box)
Organization: UC Irvine
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:26:27 GMT

I'm looking for an external that will let me switch printers.  I've
written one for FoxBASE and Hypercard, but I don't have the 4D
externals kit to roll my own with.

Thanks,
DB

Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:05:41 -0500 
From: Matthew Mashyna <mm5l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 4D Field Incrementing
Distribution: usa

I'm not sure I fully understand what your trying to do. If you only need
to assign a unique number to you clients starting with 1000 then why not
use something like:

[Clients]Client_Num:= sequence number([Clients]) + 1000

The sequence number is always unique -- until it wraps bitwise.


Matt
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FMP v2.0 & QuickTime
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:44:24 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

Richard_Tickle@bmug.org writes:

>Simon Kok @ mindlink.bc.ca  WRITES:
>Can somebody please tell me if this is a 'safe' application to use?
>Does the movie get stored in the FileMaker Pro document?
>Does it cause slowness in searches etc?

>Yes. But boost the application memory significantly.

    I have found that boosting the application memory of FM Pro really
doesn't improve things very much due to the disk based nature of the
program.

>Yes.

    Not according to the FM Pro 2.0 manual. It says "The movie in a
picture/sound field is actually a reference to a Quicktime movie file."

>Yes.

    Since it is only a reference, I don't see why it should cause any
real slowness in searching. It's not like you can actually search within
the picture/sound field.

-Hades

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: Simon_Kok@mindlink.bc.ca (Simon Kok)
Subject: FMP v2.0 & QuickTime
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:10:53 GMT

I wish to use FileMaker Pro v2.0 to catalog all of the QuickTime movies that
I've captured with my new VideoVision.  Can somebody please tell me if this
is a 'safe' application to use?  Does the movie get stored in the FileMaker
Pro document?  Does it cause slowness in searches etc?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!

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Technical Support Engineer                     AppleLink: GDT.MKT
GDT Softworks, Inc.                           CompuServe: 72137,3246
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Subject: Re: 4D Field Incrementing
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:59:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.020602.20467@freenet.carleton.ca> aa192@Freenet.carleton.ca (Graydon Patterson) writes:
>
>Here is the standard procedure I use to create unique ID's..
>`	NextID
>$0:=[NextID]ID
>[NextID]ID:=[NextID]ID+1
>SAVE RECORD([NextID])
>`    end script
>
>To obtain a unique ID in any file use the following...
>[Clients]Client Number:=NextID    ` NEXTID being a function
>
>The NextIF file has only one field called ID and only one
>record, the next ID to be called.
>(pardon my typos)
>-- 
>

NO NO NO NO NO.  What if this was a multi-user database, what if lots of
people all over the world tried to get a new ID simultaneously, two
people might both assing $0 := [NextID]ID, and both might get the exact
same value before raising the value of [NextID]ID, in Comp. Sci. terms,
you have a _race condition_.

If you feel the need to use this solution, turn this procedure into a
TRANSACTION, or use the SEMAPHORE features of 4D to protect against this
happening.

But, if you really need Unique IDs, NEVER NEVER NEVER use the above
procedure in a multi-user database, or even in a single user databse

-Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: 4D Field Incrementing
Organization: BeHereNow
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:18:03 GMT


I want to increment ad integer in an Input Layout starting @ 1000.
I created a "dummy" file with one record that has the value of 1000.
Then I added a script to the individual fields that have the same name
in a different file, as in the dummy file. 

So I want to assign a the number to the field once, but I don't want it
to update as the value in the Dummy field increments for Adding Records
later on...

If I have a [Clients]ClientNumber field, and a [Dummy]ClientNumber place
holder field, can I assign the value and increment it like this?:

$RecNum:=Record number
If ($RecNum=-3)
  vClientNum:=([Dummy];[Dummy]ClientNum)+1
  ([Dummy];[Dummy]ClientNum):=vClientNum
  [Clients]Client_Num:=vClientNum
End If

I think something like this in the [Clients]ClientNumber field would
work, but I tried it and it doesn't work...

Or is this better for some reason?:

If ([Clients]Client Number=0) 
  [Clients]Client Number:=[Dummy]Client Number
  SAVE RECORD([Clients])
  [Dummy]Client Number:=([Dummy]Client Number + 1)
  Save Record([Dummy])
End if 

If you see obvious syntax errors, feel free to point them out (other
than field names).

Thanks,

Jeff-



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: David C. Roessli <roessli@sc2a.unige.ch>
Subject: Associating snds to buttons in FM Pro 2
X-Xxdate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:59:42 GMT
Organization: Dpt. Anthropology, U of Geneva, Switzerland
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:05:54 GMT

Hello world,

I wonder if someone could tell me if it's possible to associate a sound
to an action (a button actually) in FileMaker Pro 2.0 ?

Sounds can be 'played', but only if they're in a picture/sound field. 
Moreover, one needs to double click it to play the snd, and fields can't
be defined as buttons (i think).

Has anyone any ideas ? Thanks in advance.
--
David C. Roessli  -  Dpt Anthropology & Ecology  -  U of Geneva  -  SWITZERLAND
Email roessli@sc2a.unige.ch  |  Phone +41(22)343-6930  |  Fax +41(22)300-0351
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane)
Subject: Re: 4D Field Incrementing
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:17:40 GMT

i think i know what you are asking here.  my solution is to create a
file called Constants consisting of 2 fields, SequenceName and
NextNumber.  when i need a number i get it from this file and
increment the nextNumber for the next time i need it.

at the end of this message is a stripped down version of what i use.
i call the function NextNumber, and the call looks like:

[Client]ID:=NextNumber("Clients";true;1000)

this call gets the next number in the Clients sequence, increments the
next number (true), and starts at 1000 if the sequence must be created.

so, in the BEFORE stage of an input layout, the code would be:

if (Record Number([Client])=-3) ` new record
     [Client]ID:=NextNumber("Clients";true;1000)
end if  

here's the NextNumber code

` NextNumber global proc.->$1=sequence name, $2=true=increment,
` $3=starting value
C_LONGINT($0;$3)
C_STRING(20;$1)
C_BOOLEAN($2)
READ WRITE([Constants])
SEARCH([Constants];[Constants]SequenceName=$1)
If (Records in selection([Constants])=0)
  CREATE RECORD([Constants])
  [Constants]SequenceName:=$1
  [Constants]NextNumber:=$3
End if 
If (Locked([Constants]))
  While (Locked([Constants]))
    LOAD RECORD([Constants])
  End while 
End if 
$0:=[Constants]NextNumber
If ($2)
  [Constants]NextNumber:=[Constants]NextNumber+1
End if 
SAVE RECORD([Constants])
READ ONLY([Constants])
UNLOAD RECORD([Constants])


i hope this helps (assuming it was even the problem that you were
asking about).

--mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: Les Aker
Subject: Re: What happened to reflex for the Mac?
Reply-To: aker@hightop.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: NRL Computer Security
Distribution: World
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:00:45 GMT

In article <C1Fyvw.464@optimla.aimla.com> lex@optimla.aimla.com (Lex van
Sonderen) writes:
>Does anyone know what happened to Reflex or Reflex Plus for the Mac?
>Last sold by Borland.
>
>I still like it, but the version I have Reflex Plus 1.01 is not 32-bit clean.
>
>Thanx
>
>Lex van Sonderen
>

Borland stopped supporting it.  I also have Reflex (& Reflex Plus) and 
they are good products.  I don't know how they made the decision to
go out of the Mac data base business.

Les Aker

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: jtwarden@rpi.edu (Joseph Warden)
Subject: Importing Bibliographic data into FMPro
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.databases
Organization: Chemistry
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:59:14 GMT

Is it possible to import Bibliographic data into FMPro in which
the imported data fields are separated by Carriage Returns and the
Records are separated by blank lines? The default styles for data 
import appear to be tab or comma delimeted (per the manual) - 
are other formats possible?

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Rensselaer
Troy, NY 12180-3590
EMail: wardej@rpi.edu or userhay3@rpitsmts (BITNET)
Tel: (518)276-8482
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