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From: shollera@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan C Holleran)
Subject: For sale: bus ticket Columbus-Indy
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:32:35 GMT

For sale: Roundtrip bus ticket from Columbus to
Indianapolis (or vice versa).  Must be used by
August 28, 1992 (both ways).  $38 or best offer.

email: shollera@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
phone: 614-451-9576 (evenings)
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From: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink
Subject: Re: Oldest Restaurants in America/World
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:03:32 GMT
Reply-To: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University

In article <d=5mvqf.mdk1@netcom.com>, mdk1@netcom.com (Mark Kaplanoff) writes:
>In article <3678@randvax.rand.org> talmy@randvax.rand.org (Shel Talmy) writes:
>>
>There are about half a dozen restaurants in San Francisco which
>(as of 1976) claimmed to be a hundred years old or more.  (The
>Gold Rush of 1849 was obviously the oldest possible date.)  I think

I thought San Francisco existed before 1849;  it just grew by leaps and bounds
after that date.  Or, there were no restaurants before 1849?
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: helen@wufpack.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Helen Spinks)
Subject: Re: North Carolina suggestions?
Reply-To: helen@b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1992 18:53:23 GMT

In article <37217@ttidca.TTI.COM>, clark@soldev.tti.com (Ralph Clark) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug3.175534.15168@b11.b11.ingr.com> helen@b30.ingr.com writes:
|> >   If you go to NC in mid October, the fall colors should be at their
|> >peak in the mountains.  But be sure to book your hotel reservations 
|> >early because its very difficult find a vacancy in some mountain towns
|> >during that time of year.  ...
|> 
|> Thanks for the warning. I want to go to North Carolina sometime to do some
|> historical research. Raleigh and Durham for big libraries, and wander around
|> through Asheville and Franklin and such places. I'd like to be able to find
|> a motel in the evening and just pull in. Now, I don't want you to tell me
|> when the area will be *ugly*, but when would be a good time to go, when the
|> natives and the tourists are at home, but the snowmen are still on vacation?
|> 
|> --- Ralph in Los Angeles
|> Ralph Clark (clark@soldev.tti.com) {philabs|psivax|rutgers}!soldev!clark

If you are travelling on weekdays in October you will probably be ok.
Otherwise, early September and November should be good times.  November
is too early for skiing, but is getting a little too cool for the
most tourists.

Helen
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From: SV@smena.russia.msk.su (S.V.Vasiliev)
Subject: Invitation to visit Moscow
Reply-To: SV@smena.russia.msk.su
Organization: unknown
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:09:34 +0300

Hello, netters,

If you are going to visit Moscow and to accommodate and spend your time
quaranteed cheap and interesting - our information is for you.

The hotel 'Russia' is one the central hotels in Moscow. We propose you the
2-rooms appartment at the 6 floor. Windows at Red Square and Kremlin.
It is our constant appartment but during summer it will be empty and you can
use it. That's why it will cost $70 cash only instead of $150 per day common
price (all this till September). That's is very suitable for couples.

Those who want to save money most of all, we offer the summer discount condi-
tions:

A. Home-stay with russian family or single flat ($20-40 per day) with all meals
and tourist programme (or without it - upon your choice).
        The cheapest variant (a room in a flat, breakfast only, no programme) -
$12 per day.

B. Cheap ($25-45 per day) hotel with tourist programme.

Hello, netters,

If you are going to visit Moscow and to accommodate and spend your time
quaranteed cheap and interesting - our information is for you.

The hotel 'Russia' is one the central hotels in Moscow. We propose you the
2-rooms appartment at the 6 floor. Windows at Red Square and Kremlin: the
better view you could ever imagine!

It is our constant appartment but during summer it will be empty and you can
use it. That's why it will cost $70 cash only instead of $150 per day common
price (this price - till September). That's is very suitable for couples.

Those travellers who want to save money most of all, we offer the summer
discount conditions:

A. Home-stay with russian family or single flat ($20-40 per day) with all meals
and tourist programme (or without it - upon your choice).
        The cheapest variant (a room in a flat, breakfast only, no programme) -
$12 per day.

B. Cheap ($25-45 per day) hotel with tourist programme.

C. Any types of tourist programmes: sightseeings, visiting of Kremlin,
cafedrals, monastries, White House of Russia, places of interest, aero-cosmic
points, museums, meetings on professional or political interests, etc.

D. Studying language and Russia folk-handicrafts ($30-50 per day). Visiting
the world famous centers of Russian folk-painting handicrafts: Chochloma,
Cholyi, Gorodets, Fedoskino, etc.

Visa application as well.

Don't hesitate to contact me for further information.

SV@smena.russia.msk.su
fax 095-205-4457 or 4403


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: pchris@dcc.uchile.cl (Chris Perleberg)
Subject: Re: Antarctica
Originator: pchris@pehuen
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:28:23 GMT
Reply-To: pchris@dcc.uchile.cl
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <1992Aug20.125729.6990@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, nev@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (nancy.e.ellard-vass) writes:
> In article <9208182133.AA16455@cobber.cord.edu>, olsen@COBBER.CORD.EDU (Scott Olsen) writes:
> > 
> > Does anyone know who to contact about getting to Antarctica?  I'm not so
> > much interested in the American Museam of Natural History style cruise as I
> > am interested in just getting there, perhaps staying at a science station
> > if such a thing is possible.
> 
> Scott:
> The only way I think you can get to Antartica (as a tourist) is
> by boat. I know Society Expeditions offers a cruise to Antartica.

I'm pretty sure there are flights to varios places in the Antartica from
Chile.  About a year and a half ago, one such flight landed in the ocean
and a lot of tourists died.

	Chris Perleberg
	pchris@dcc.uchile.cl
From: Marg_Meikle@mindlink.bc.ca (Marg Meikle)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: CHEAP VAN--CALGARY
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:46:18 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I want to go  one way to Calgary from Vancouver in a week or so (so that I can
immediately drive back with a pal).  Where do people advertise those half
tickets.  I seemed to see them when I wasn't looking.  Or does anyone know any
other el-cheapo methods of travel.  The train apparently no longer goes to
Calgary.  What a country!

Thanks  Marg_meikle@mindlink.bc.ca
From: spanga@yocomputo (Span Grad Asst)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Saddle Road, Hawaii, car rental
Date: 18 Aug 1992 18:42:14 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Institute of Political Correctness
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: yocomputo.berkeley.edu

Regarding Hilo, isn't there a restaurant called Uncle Billy's
with seafood and very hokey type of hula shows.
Has anyone had any bad experiences with Tropical Rent A Car.  We
were driving on the South Part of the Island from Hilo to Kona
via Volcanic National Park.  We got a flat tire and in the
process of changing the tire bent the front fender slightly.  Of
course the jack they provided us with was inadequate.  Anyway,
to make a long story short, Tropical Rent a Car in Kona wanted
to charge us for the flat tire even though we had liability
insurance through my wife's Gold Master Card.  My feeling is
that like many rental companies, Tropical Rent A Car does not
keep up their vehicles. Also, lava on the road definitely can
cause a flat. Be prepared to hitch to a gas station if you have
a problem on the Big Island as there aren't any roadside phones
where you can call for emergency roadside service.  


Aloha
Dan Landis  spanga@athena.berkeley.edu  __________sig.alert____
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: woodward@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca (Todd Woodward)
Subject: Re: Advice on Sudan/Kenya?
Organization: Social Science Computing Laboratory
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:25:03 GMT

In article <anne.713468102@menaik>, anne@cs.UAlberta.CA (Anne J.R. Nield) writes:
> pwebb@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Peter Webb) writes:
> 
> I'd recommend Best Camping, operating
>>out of Nairobi.  Not fancy, but honest and reliable.
> 
> I agree.  But I also heard rave reviews about a group called "Gametrackers"
> (I think) -- from people who had been on both trips.
> 
> By the way I DID enjoy Mombasa -- especially the train trip there and
> back.  And the Indian ocean is beautiful.  Didn't  make it to Melindi
> or Lamu but hear they are worth visiting.  Do try taking public
> transportation (i.e., from Mombasa to Diani Beach).  It's a helluva
> lot cheaper (7ksh vs. 600 ksh.for a taxi, when I was there) and you meet
> realy wonderful, friendly people.  I saw a lot more this way than
> taking taxis or always travelling with other tourists.
> 
> I agree with all the previous comments about the game parks.  They
> are a wonderful, exhilarating experience.  I had to keep pinching
> myself to make sure I was really there!!
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
-- 
Lamu is really one of the special places in the world!! It's a place one
could stay for week soaking up the tradition and friendly atmosphere.
The Swahili architecture there is unforgettable, and it's cheap.
	
Malindi has a great campsite called "SILVERSANDS" and that is a great
place to relax with friendly hosts and a secluded beach. They also
have bungalows.

+--------------------------------+ +---------------------------------------+ 
| Todd Woodward                  | |                                       | 
| Dept. of Psychology            | | "We're just two lost souls swimming   | 
| University of Western Ontario, | |  in a fish bowl, year after year.."   | 
| London, Ontario                | |                                       | 
| CANADA                         | +-+-------------------------------------+ 
+--------------------------------+ +-*-+- +--------------------------------+  
+------------------------------------+--+ |  : )  :->  ; >  (:-)  ;-) (:-> | 
|  e-mail: WOODWARD@SSCL.UWO.CA         | |             smile!             | 
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From: linda@gratton.net.com (Linda Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: San Francisco sightseeing DONT DO!
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:48:46 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City

In article <1992Aug11.201100.21406@samba.oit.unc.edu> unckcb@unc.bitnet (Karen Blansfield) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.233836.10217@intelhf.hf.intel.com> 
>dcovell@intelhf.hf.intel.com (David Covell) writes:
>> 
>> You'ld be wise to skip all of Fishermans Warf -- its a tawdry tourist 
>trap.
>
>Well, but, come on. It's a circus down there. Yes, it is touristy as you 
>can get, but it IS a circus, especially on summer weekends. I wouldn't 
>plan to spend too much time there, nor to eat there, but it is colorful 
>and lively. And I bought some of the best sourdough bread I've ever had in 
>a bakery down there, the name of which I forget. Don't spend money there, 
>just walk along it, enjoy the sideshows, the views of the Bay, and the 
>liveliness.

Thank you.  This is exactly the response I've been thinking.  I lived in
San Francisco for four years and I enjoyed spending time down at the Wharf
area occasionally for the activity and the people watching.  There's a funky
place at Pier 39 (the Eagle Cafe?) to get breakfast, another restaurant
upstairs at Pier 39 that sells a kind of pizza bread to go, all kinds of
visual stimulus in the Pier 39 shops (and you can pick up some little googaw to
satisfy your shopping craving), sourdough bread from Boudin's, street
performers to watch...it can be a fun hour or two!  Just skip eating at any
of the Wharf restaurants - go back in to North Beach if it's dinnertime.  The
San Francisco Maritime Museum makes for an interesting stop if you're in that
area as well.  Just walking around the area before taking an Alcatraz or
Angel Island ferry can be fun.

It isn't _all_ tourist trap.  :-)

linda@net.com (no matter what it says in the "From:" line)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.indian
From: chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran)
Subject: Re: Don't fly on Air India
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:18:33 GMT

Regarding the recent posting re problems flying on Air India, I felt
that I should add a positive note.  There are three distinct groups of
people that are involved in a flight experience: the people who make
airport policy, the AI personnel on ground, and AI personnel on the
flight.  I have flown a few times recently by AI (I was bringing my
parents neither of whom is in good health and one of them is on
wheelchair), and I thought that the personnel on the flight were
actually quite excellent and helpful.  The AI grounds personnel vary
from city to city.  I have to agree with the poster that the JFK AI
personnel aren't the friendliest lot, but I suspect that they operate
under a lot of pressure.  Partly they operate under restrictive GOI
policies which are set in New Delhi. (For example, the time before
last, they simply woulnd't allow me to take my lap top with me on the
flight -- they hadn't told me that it won't be allowed and I had
planned to get my talks that I had to give the day I landed in India
ready.  This was apparently a directive from GoI.)  It is often hard to
tell whether an insensitive behavior is due to AI or the local airport people.
In Bombay the passengers are often treated like cattle, but I gather that is
due to no fault of AI but the Bombay airport authority.  In London,
the personnel badly mistreated the passengers on wheelchairs by demanding
that they all get out of the airplane, but after I yelled and screamed,
British Airways blamed AI, AI blamed BA, and both of them blamed Heathrow
security, but finally I managed to get them to cancel the order that all
the wheelchair passengers had to get out.

But again I have to add that the flight personnel tried to be as helpful as
they could and I think they are vastly underappreciated.
From: grob@opera.chorus.fr (Lori Grob)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: TRAVEL FROM CHARLES DE GAULLE TO ORLY AIRPORT (PARIS)
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:45:53 GMT
Reply-To: grob@chorus.fr
Organization: Chorus systemes, 6 av. Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines, France

In article <1992Aug18.013518.10357@massey.ac.nz>, T.D.Sadlier@massey.ac.nz (T.D. Sadlier) writes:
%% Can someone please tell me the best way of getting from Charles de
%% Gaulle Airport to Orly Airport (Paris) - We'll be flying in from
%% San Francisco and have about 2 hours in which to transfer from one
%% to the other.  Any help would be appreciated.
%% 
%% Tanya Sadlier

Call Air France and ask about facilities for transfer.
CDG is all the way north of Paris, with no traffic
I can get there in 35-45 minutes from where I live in
the south center of the city. Orly is in the South, slightly east
of the city. 

Depending on what time you are getting in, and allowing for
getting your baggage and clearing customs, this seems a little
tight to me.

Anyway, either there is a direct bus at the time you need
(ask AirFrance) or you could take the RER to st Michel
and change to the RER which goes to Orly. But with
only 2 hours to clear customs, get your bags, get to Orly
and check in, I personally would take a cab.

-- 
L.S. Grob
Chorus syste`mes			phone +33-1-30-64-82-17
6 avenue Gustave Eiffel			fax   +33-1-30-57-00-66	
F78182 Saint Quentin-en-Yvelines	email grob@chorus.fr	
FRANCE					      grob%chorus.fr.uunet.uu.net
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From: cday@terapin.com (Chris Day)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Accommodation in Stuttgart and Berlin
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:23:31 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <2906@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>, higgins@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU
(Peter Gerard Higgins) writes:
>A week ago I requested infromation on cheap hotel accomodation in
>Stuttgart and Berlin. So far I've had no replies.
>
>Please if you know any, I would be most grateful to hear from you.
>
>Thanks
>Peter Higgins
If you contact the american youth hostel in washington DC they can put you in
touch with budget accomadations anywhere world wide as low as 4.00-45.00 a nite
those prices range from tent housing to single rooms ,youth hostels are
available for all ages thou 10-24 do have priority also families are welcome
max stay is usually 2 weeks thou shorter in some places more in others if you
do book you will need to send a dep ,usually first nite ,and they require a
youth hostel card usually 15.00 a year single to 30.00 family ..Hope i was
help.....................

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: _The Prisoner_ and Portmeirion (was Re: Places to visit in the UK)
Keywords: some TV related
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:57:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.005800.8817@nosc.mil> sampson@nosc.mil (Charles H. Sampson) writes:
>
>    The Prisoner was taped in Portmeirion, which is in northwest Wales.
>When I was there 10 years ago it was possible to book rooms at the hotel
>and in the small houses (cottages) as well.  At that time, the address was
>
>     Portmeirion Villiage Hotel
>     Penrhyndeudraeth
>     Gwynedd, Britian
>     Phone: 0766 770 228

Question for anyone who might know:  I have an address for Portmeirion
Potteries that's in Stoke-on-Trent, but I'm also told this is the
"pottery centre" of England in that many of the famous fine china
manufacturers have stores there.  Is the Portmeirion factory actually
in Portmeirion (i.e. in Wales)?

Portmeirion's "Botanic Garden" pattern is popular in this country
(much more so than in England, I'm told!) partly, I think, 
because of those who know about the association of the name with _The
Prisoner_.  It's also very expensive here, but reasonably priced in
London.  I'm hoping for a factory outlet, which might have even better
prices.

Thanks,
Charleen
--
I got hit by the Michaelangelo Virus this morning. I didn't like
what it did to my hard disk, but my ceiling sure looks better now.
                              -- Steve Schochet
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: Want to hire/buy camping equipment in San Francisco
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 23:29:44 GMT

|> Can anyone recommend (or otherwise) places to hire or buy camping
|> equipment in SF? Addresses/phone numbers would be great.

Sorry, I don't have a phone number, but REI carries a wide range of
middle to high quality camping equipment for rent or for sale.  They
have a number of stores, but one is on Industrial Way (near Highway
101) in San Carlos, a few minutes south of the San Francisco airport.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rdc@pelican.cit.cornell.edu (Bob Cowles)
Subject: Re: Looking for places to get married in CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:15:04 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Cornell Info. Tech.

Another vote for on the beach at Carmel.  My wife and I got married there
last October.  Coming from NY it was quite easy ... the CofC at Carmel
even sent us a photocopy of the wedding services page from the local
telephone directory so we could set things up in advance.  Very memorable.

Bob Cowles

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From: mdk1@netcom.com (Mark Kaplanoff)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.food.cooking,rec.food.drink
Subject: Re: Oldest Restaurants in America/World
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:59:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <3678@randvax.rand.org> talmy@randvax.rand.org (Shel Talmy) writes:
>
>I was having a discussion the other night about the oldest
>restaurants in Los Angeles, and the conclusion was, much to my
>chagrin, that about 75 years in operation was the limit.
>Most of the older establishments here have given way to Strip
>Malls, and other equally cultural advancements.  There is no
>history, in Los Angeles at least, of a restaurant being a family
>concern that continues for generations, in the European moldde.
>
>I'm curious about the rest of the country.  What are the oldest
>continually operating restaurants in your part of the country?
>I would also love to hear from anybody reading this in the rest
>of the world, who can contribute information about their local
>eateries that qualify.  Perhaps we can apply to Guinness for a
>new record!

>
>
There are about half a dozen restaurants in San Francisco which
(as of 1976) claimmed to be a hundred years old or more.  (The
Gold Rush of 1849 was obviously the oldest possible date.)  I think
I could find a list, or at least a few names, if it would help.

The restaurant I've been in which claims the greatest antiquity is
Tour d'Argent [not sure about the spelling] in Paris.  It is certainly
on the site of a restaurant/inn from at least 400 years ago, but I don't
know how long it claims to have been in continuous operation.  One
of the more amusing/amazing/and other things historical touches is the
menu displayed from the time during the Franco-Prussian War (1870s)
when Paris was besieged and they ate the (inmates of) the Zoo.  The
French have a way with armadillos!

There may well be an older restaurant in Rome, possibly in Trastevere.

salud,

Mark Kaplanoff
From: duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Paris sublet wanted Dec 16 to Jan 14
Summary: Want Paris sublet, or swap for my apartment in San Francisco
Keywords: Paris France sublet swap San Francisco California
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:35:45 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


I would like to sublet an apartment in Paris for some or all of the
period December 16 through January 14.  Alternatively, we could
arrange a swap for my large two-bedroom apartment in San Francisco.
I would also consider apartments or houses in Nice or other cities
on the coast in Cote d'Azur or Provence.

Robert Lauriston (e-mail to rlauriston@aol.com)