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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:57:41 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      the edge of mistakes
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  Yes, playing on the edge of your ability, very near to making mistakes,
that's where the thrill of improv lives.   It's the recovery from those
little errors that pulls the genius out of you, forces you to dig deep,
'cuz it's happening NOW, and you've only got a split second to DO IT.
That's what I listen for in musicians, and that's where I like to play.

   Maybe that's why the super-technical wizards just don't do it for me.
They *never* get to the edge of their abilities, and so never have those
little meanderings that give life to the music.  OTOH (that's "on the other
hand", for all you FUQ, er, FAQers), almost all blues musicians seem to
be on the edge of their abilities, and I'll take the blues over technicians
anytime.

   It may be an emotion similar to watching car races, or downhill skiing,
just watching these people perform right on the edge, where one slip up
means failure.  It's exciting.

Russ
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Lil Drummer boy sed:

>   Carol: Carol - Resident sex addict. Lives for sex and notes with sex.

Oh my... you give me far too much credit here...  :-P  (of course, this from
the guy who signs off as 'Horny in RI' and has volunteered to single handedly
solve Quebec's declining birthrate -- the ole babies for bucks scandal.... ummm
or was that Tim... oh well, one of those volleyball players...)

You forgot:

Chuckrateze: Chuck - Resident sax addict. Lives for sax and notes with sax.
		     Wants to influence all Irishmen to collect lucky
		     Sharrocks...

MHBrittanica: Michael Bloom - Looks like Jerry Garcia, but talks like a winning
	      contestant from the $64,000 Question...  Also holds the record
	      for longest post...

Bite me,
Carol
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1992 17:21:00 PDT
From:         Christopher Harry <IZZYFC1@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      All Guitar Players

     To those of you out there who play guitar:


           I have had my guitar for about six months now and can't find
the money to take lessons. Can anyone set me on the right path and give me a
direction to go about learning the guitar. Should I just sit down for a
certain period each night and play the chords until I get the fingering
patterns, or is there something else I should do. Until I find the money to
take lessons (I supposed they're recommended), I don't want my guitar to be
another dust-collector that looks good in my bedroom.


                         Chris
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:50:52 -0400
From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Friday thoughts
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>(1) IYHO is Prince a genuis, fluke, desserving of the attention he receives
>    or is he a dawg(alabmama for dog) you had when you were a youngster?

His music is not my cup o' tea so I try to ignore him

>(2) What do you think of Robert Cray, Joe Walsh, joe cocker
>    Notting Hilbillies (this spelling getting worse)

I like em all.

>(3) have you ever seen Joe Cocker LIve? IMHO if you ever get the chance
>    do so i saw him with srv (reason i went in the first place), but J.C.
>    ain't second bannana to anyonne in his "area" live

URGGGHHHH! I missed that tour! You had to remind me!

>(4) Think on this we've (the majority) have knocked Billy....etc as being
>    pre-fab artist and therfore we have began to knock alot of country
>    while i'm not a "new country" fan I do belive Travis,Garth...etc
>    actually have some talent, but on the flipside pop music has more
>    pre-fab artist that any form ex: Vanilla ice, new kids, Tiffany
>    miller vaniller, the list could go one , so whether we like country
>    music or not (new country) I belive pop has a monoploly on pre-fab
>    acts, so lets try to lay off bIlly for a while............

Why do you think they call it "pop" (popular) music? One of the reasons we're
suddenly seeing much more pre-fab country acts is the new Billboard charts.
Country music's sales appear to be much better than with the old charting
system. So now all the corporate weenies are trying to come up with big sellers.

Painful confession: I own both of Travis Tritt's albums.

>(5) I believ i've seen useless discussions on Fender vs. Gibson
>    but how can one deny the great tone that Gary moore, early E.C.,
>    Bloomfield, Billy Gibbons and the man BRO Duanne (don't blame
>    it om amps they don't all use the same one), and others but likewise
>    how can you deny tone that Eric Johnson, DAVID GILMOUR(deserved uppercase)
>    SRV, Jimi,....etc, so there are tone-masters from fender to gibson so
>    this discussion is all a mater of taste, BTW i play an old Strat,
>    but on the hunt for a L.P. Junior with GAwd'almighty soapbars

You should of waited to bring this one up until Michael's return. Most
of the people you listed don't play stock strats.

>(6) wouldn't you hate to take a long car trip with me i'd never shutup
>    guess you can tell my boss is not hear today.
>
>    Love L. Watkins

My own little question... We've had several DRUM WARS and GUITAR WARS.. One
instrument which has been neglected is the bass. Who do you all think are
the real BASSMASTERS? Two that come immediately to mind for me are Victor
Wooten (w/Bela Fleck & the F-Tones) and Tony Levin.

-Adam (Getting down to bassics)
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Date: Wednesday, 12 Aug 1992 17:45:49 CDT
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In article <ALLMUSIC%92081108303803@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>,
AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU says:

>To answer one of your questions; I do not think that Bonnie Rayat and Billy
>Rae Cyrus will do a video or duet together.  There musical styles are
>different and Billy Rae is more musical than Bonnie will ever be.

Arrrrrrgggghh....

If Bonnie "Rayat" is less musical than Billy Ray Snideness,I'd like to get
your opinion on what-if anything-makes him more musical.

Bonnie Raitt plays slide guitar,sings and writes songs. How are these talents
somehow less musical in scope than Cyrus'?

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:50:44 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Bass World (was: Friday thoughts)

Gee whiz, give me some room to come up with original answers!!

I think David Malbuff said it all for me.

Let me ADD a few more, though.

Where would we be without Paul McCartney's work with the Beatles?
Chris Squire from Yes.
John Paul Jones from Led Zeppelin.
Mark King from Level 42.
Mike Rutherford of early Genesis.
Bass player for Bob Marley.
Bass player from Sly and the Family Stone.
Geddy
Sting
Mingus

If I had to pick one, probably Jamerson. Marvin Gaye's "What's Goin' On"
is Jamerson's baby.

 3
M
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:52:00 CDT
From:         S_YECK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: tangerine dream

Well, the band itself is from Germany, but I guess that doesn't necessarily
mean that they are German themselves.  However, they do have a strong German
accent.  Maybe they are Dutch!!  I really wouldn't know.  I'll have to do some
research for this one!

Yes, "Force Majure"  (I can't spell) is a great one.  Try some of the others
too!

Truly,
 _
Meshel
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:33:19 MDT
From:         weasels ripped my dress <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Fairport Box Set

I hear that Island records in the UK has just released the new "Fairport
Convention 25th Anniversary Pack"...   Have any of our UK/Euro people picked it
up?   What's it like?

Someone better wake me up this morn,
Carol
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:10:24 MDT
From:         weasels ripped my dress <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Re: ENYA / bodhran
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Eddie sed:

>Secondly, about bodhran playing
> firstly note the spelling; strictly there should also be an accent.

Firstly... that was a typo, not a spelling erro... another oopsie.  Secondly, I
have an accent, a Canadian elfin one -- I say my ow's like ou's (winks to
n.n.), eh!  ;*)

I suppose you're going to tell me that my pronunciation of bodhran is wrong...
I say bow-ran... and you say....?

>Also if someone is serious about learning it, they would do well to listen to
>the Irish group De Dannan (pron. Day Dannan). The bodhran palyer, whose name
>escapes me right now, is one of the very best in the country.

Now there's a recommendation I may have to take you up on...  :)  How does one
get ahold of De Dannan's music... is there a catalog/address you can suggest?
Or if anyone else has recommendations of killer bow-runners (*wink*), I'd like
to hear them...  I was rather impressed with Jackie Moran of the Drovers (from
Chicago) and Gino Lupari of Four Men and a Dug...  ;)

Also... does anyone know of any shops in Chicago that sell hard-to-find
instruments such as celtic harps and bodhrans and such??  I'm going to be there
for a week in October and would like to purchase a bodhran if possible...

- Carol
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From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Train Kept A Rollin

Tav Falco and Panther Burns - b-side of Red Headed Woman

Seb
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From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dream (cream) Teams
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              Sonney" at Aug 21, 92 10:37 am

>
> Walter -
>
> ABout  three  (maybe  four?)  years  ago  Guitar Player  magazine
> released  a  "sond page" single  of "Red House"  that hadn't been
> available until  then. One of  the better versions of "Red House"
> that Jimi did...
>
> ...If I could find my copy, I'd tape it for you...
>
> -Kev
>
EEOOYOWWW, don't forget me!!!!  Sonia (i'll send blank tape and an
authenticated Jimi Hendrix whisker)
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:07:00 LCL
From:         Kevin Sonney <KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dream (cream) Teams
X-To:         Sonia Kovitz <ALLMUSIC@auvm.american.edu>

>> Walter -
>>
>> ABout  three  (maybe  four?)  years  ago  Guitar Player  magazine
>> released  a  "sond page" single  of "Red House"  that hadn't been
>> available until  then. One of  the better versions of "Red House"
>> that Jimi did...
>>
>> ...If I could find my copy, I'd tape it for you...
>>
>> -Kev
>>
>EEOOYOWWW, don't forget me!!!!  Sonia (i'll send blank tape and an
>authenticated Jimi Hendrix whisker)
>
Sonia/Walter -

OK, I'll see if it's still in the record vault, and tape it if it
is...

Just send me some direct mail, and we'll work out the rest.

-=Kevin=-
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:50:17 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Help me create a FAQ file

On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:04:05 GMT "n.n." said:
>
>  Could we possibly organize long enough to compile the top 20 "most
>overworn re-tread topics guaranteed to bring a collective groan"? Now
>THAT would be VERY valuable...
>
 OK, here's a few...

 "Record Labeling Is/Is Not Censorship"
 "Guns N Roses: Threat or Menace?"
 "Lyrics Versus Music"
 "Rain Songs"
 "CD Oxidation"
 "Oldies But Goodies (or Why Today's Music Sucks)"
 "Why Doesn't Anyone Talk About (insert band name or style of music here)"
 "Is Country Music?"
 "Does Bill Clinton Govern Better Than He Plays the Saxophone?"

 Most of the topics lately have been excellent. Is this the Renaissance period
 of ALLMUSIC?

 ;-) where applicable.

 David
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 09:21:58 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Red House
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              "Walter Keller" at Aug 21, 92 4:51 pm

>
> Kevin, is this Red House single the one fron Smash Hits which was originally
> released as a single ( I think) ? Also, is the soundtrack from the biography
> movie "A Film About Jimi Hendrix" still available - possibly on CD? That was
> the 1st place where his 12 string acoustic 'Hear My Train' was heard, with
> Jimi sitting on a stool in an all white room.
>
> "Bet you didn't think I could do that, did ya?" he says after the tune.
>
>
>                                                             ... walt ...
>
I'm waiting for the answer to this one too (have the same film, am hoping to
build up Hendrix on CD as a new CD-er), appreciate any help.  Kevin, re: Red
House, I can't reply directly as I don't know your e-mail address.  Sonia
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: ringo
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:26:00 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92081813574131@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET> writes:
>On Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:09:31 -0400 Russ Gelinas said:
>I read where Paul M. (about a year ago) said Ringo was the best drummer to
>him period, that he didn't play to the beat but to the melody of the song
>I've listened and he's right , but i'm no drummer so l could be wrong

Ringo is no drummer, but he fit the Beatles vibration well.  It is like
when I was in Paris, there would always be these Antilles street bands,
and a trumpet player was warming up, and sounding awful, having trouble
playing some of the easiest things.  I almost would go over there
and say, "here's a 100 francs, now go take a lesson".
But then when the music would start, he would play the simplest stuff,
but it would fit in with the groove and ensemble and music so well.   

So how can you criticize that?

Jeff
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Subject: Re: One last thought before the weekend
 <1992Aug14.191043.9075@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>

In article <1992Aug14.191043.9075@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff
Beer) says:
>Yup, Shannon (RSJ) is his musical father.  Gibbs has a new funk band,
>but I can't remember the name.

Well,I dunno if you can really classify Eye and I as a funk band,if that's
the outfit you're talking about,but that's probably who you're referring to.

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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re:      Re: Help me create a FAQ file
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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 12:52:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.124743.16502@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston) writes:
>  But Steve --- are you making scale?  ;)

Are you kidding?  They don't call Bulmer "triple scale" from the modes
he uses.

Jeff
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:12:22 MDT
From:         weasels ripped my dress <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: Info request: Adrian Belew
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Marco said:

>Hi,
>        last week I borrowed an Adrian Belew instructional video tape; quite
>impressive, I must say. I have several records with his performances - Talking
>Heads, King Crimson, and one of his solo albums, "Twang Bar King", but I admit
>I haven't followed him a lot lately.
>        Is there anyone who may give me some vague hints about his recent solo
>career, if there is any?

I have become a fan of Adrian Belew's solo material in the last couple of years
(thanks to n.n.).  I currently have two of Belew's solo albums:
    _Inner Revolution_
    _Mr. Musichead_

Both of these were good purchases... there are a couple of cute and schmoozy
tunes on each one and he seems to have converted to an almost beatle-esque pop
style, especially with the last one.  But I find his lyrics and arrangements to
be wierdly imaginative, so I enjoy him alot...  I like his guitar playing style
and the sound of his guitar.

My favorite solo tracks include:
"This Is What I Believe In"
"Heaven's Bed"
"Motor Bungalow"
  (I especially like the lyrics of this one:
	'One morning
	 roll down the windows
	 let the north wind in
	 and fly across the continent
	 up to Canada.... whoa, Canada
	 to view a true moose... hmmmmm
	 wet your pants ha!')

"House of Cards"

I know that you can glean alot more information from two other listmembers who
follow his work quite closely, namely n.n. and Michael Bloom (who interviewed
Belew after a performance recently).

- Carol

p.s. I'll send up comments on your P.H. compilation as soon as they quit
working my bagette off here... :)
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:29:38 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
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              "MCINTYRE%MSUPA.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU" at Aug 19, 92 3:42 pm

John added:

>Other Tomorrow trivia: "My White Bicycle" was covered by Nazareth.

	Interesting! Do you, (or anyone else) know what album they covered
it on?

--
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    Gary Hanley
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:48:11 EDT
From:         "Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)" <TZJ101@URIACC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Help me create a FAQ file
              20 Aug 1992 13:35:14 GMT from <ujwb@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU>

On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:35:14 GMT Jeff Beer said:
>Hey, let's not forget the ABCD's or jazz and the 3 M's for the
>people who want to know what jazz is:
>
>Armstrong, Bird, Coltrane, and Duke.
>
>Miles, Monk, and Mingus.
>

   And the three T's. Toto, Tower and Vinnie. Ok, only two T's.



                                         - Drummer -



   That note I sent about Allmusic is old. I just re-sent it.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:50:11 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      mistake

I inadvertently sent something to this group that does not belong
has to do with something entirely different and was meant to go
to another group please ignore it i believe it's titled: STRONG
WOMEN. I'm very sorry this happened. I feel like a idiot, but
I'm not so shut-up
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:16:20 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      The Official Word on Jerry Garcia

Once again, stolen from the dead heads list:


Subject: PRESS RELEASE - VENETA/SHORELINE CANCELLED


            From the WELL

            FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE           August 10, 1992

      Grateful Dead must unfortunately announce the cancellation of the concerts
    planned for Veneta, Oregon on August 22 and 23 and Shoreline Amphitheatre,
    Mountain View, California, on August 25 through 27, to give Jerry Garcia
    sufficient time to recuperate from health problems brought on by a too-heavy
    tour schedule.  In other words, he's just plain axhausted.

      We certainly expect his full recovery, probably by the time planned for
    these concerts, but are unwilling to take even the mildest risk.

      Tickets will be refunded at their place of sale.  No make-up dates are
    scheduled.

      We regret the inconvenience of this change to our fans and the business
    community of Eugene, but we know that they all will join us in wishing for
    Jerry's speedy and complete return to good health.
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From:         "In a world gone crazy...." <QUINTAINE@TKM.BRANDONU.CA>
Subject: Re: come monday
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 > Let me tell you something.  I have seen worst jokes than Billy Rae (he is not
 > a joke) Cyrus.  Milli Vinelli is the worst joke that ever hit the music
 > industry.  Winning a Grammy and then finding out that they was not singing.
 > They must have thought that they could Blame it on the Rain.  May I say more.

Well, perhaps, seeing as the two incidents really don't have much to do with
each other.  IMHO, the people behind Milli Vanilli DID have some musical
talent (however limited).  Albiet, Fab & Rob :) didn't.

Billy Ray has shown his musical talent (or lack thereof) all by himself..
Unless, of course, HE lip-synched...  :)

Just my opinion,
Corey
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Subject: RE: Guitar players
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:17:55 GMT



        Don't tune your guitar.
        -tune yourself.

        



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