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From: pev2235@summa.tamu.edu (EL JEFE)
Newsgroups: alt.mud
Subject: Help my school has a mud scanner!!!!!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 10:23 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
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		My school has an automated mud scanner that throws you off
	the system when it catches you mudding. Does anyone know of site 
	where I can telnet to that will allow me to mud.... Please Help...

		Paul a.k.a. Pev
From: dbld@oz.plymouth.edu (d^2)
Newsgroups: alt.mud
Subject: Re: Star trek MUSE wanted
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:54:31 GMT
	<DBLD.93Jan26090650@oz.oz.plymouth.edu>
	<Jan.26.16.38.24.1993.10606@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Plymouth State College
Originator: dbld@oz.plymouth.edu
In-reply-to: dshaffer@andromeda.rutgers.edu's message of 26 Jan 93 21:38:25 GMT

In article <Jan.26.16.38.24.1993.10606@andromeda.rutgers.edu> dshaffer@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donald A Shaffer) writes:

   >>You don't say, Don...Hmm...Wonder what it could be for?
   >>
   >>{{;-)
   >
   >  Could you give me the address already? Also, do you know of one based on 
   >TNG Star Trek.  
   >
   >Don Shaffer
   >dshaffer@adromeda.rutgers.edu


Well!  *hrumph*

	You didn't say what you wanted was my whole point. {{;-)

	Anyways, here are the addresses:

	TOS (The Old Show)
	blazer.med.ucla.edu 1701	or 149.142.136.3 1701

	TNG (The Next Generation)
	nebula.lib.vt.edu 1701		or 128.173.7.183 1701

	A connection to either of these will show that they are in a period
of Administrative Shutdown and when they should be up.  I know that TNG has
gone over to registration of players, and there is an email address at that
site and port that will tell you how to proceed.

	Qapla'!

T'kah, WarLord of Klinzhai
Space Director of TOS
---
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Office of Continuing Education*The thousandth blade found my liver.
Plymouth State College        *The thousandth foe said unto me: 
Inet: dbld@oz.plymouth.edu    *"Now you shall die, Now none shall know."
      dbld@piaget.plymouth.edu*And the fool, looking only down, Believed this,
      duaned@fred.plymouth.edu*not seeing above his shoulder The Naked Stars, 
  duane.dixon@psc.plymouth.edu*each one Remembering....

`Wer mit Ungeheuern kampft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheur wird.'
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					- Nietzsche
d^2
From: dshaffer@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donald A Shaffer)
Newsgroups: alt.mud
Subject: Re: Star trek MUSE wanted
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:38:25 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


>You don't say, Don...Hmm...Wonder what it could be for?

>{{;-)

  Could you give me the address already? Also, do you know of one based on 
TNG Star Trek.  

Don Shaffer
dshaffer@adromeda.rutgers.edu
From: public@f386bsd.tu-graz.ac.at (Public Account)
Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
Subject: test
Date: 28 Jan 1993 12:29:14 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Graz, Austria
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From: richman@reepicheep.gcn.uoknor.edu (Mike Richman)
Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
Subject: Re: Throwing tuning
Summary: heavy, slotted or drilled for wind
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:07:49 GMT
Followup-To: alt.boomerang
Distribution: na
Organization: CIMMS/The University of Oklahoma, Norman
Originator: news@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu

In article <1jn09oINN9vn@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cq363@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James D. Rofkar) writes:
>
>
>Hi Bill:
>
>With regards to throwing your new boomerang, I'll try to answer
>some of the questions you had with answers that have worked
>for me.
>

[Lots of good advice deleted]

I have another suggestion if you throw in wind (I should know living in
Oklahoma): buy a boomerang designed to fly in a stiff breeze.  From the
least design changes on up try these: add lead tape to the tips, buy a
heavier rang, get one designed for wind (B'man sells several and I've
tossed the Colorado Matterhorn, Outback Chinook Aussie Round, Colorado
Eagle to name a few), or if you really have a hurricane, try Jim
Mayfields Colorado Condor Comp which is weighted, drilled and has two
concave cutouts on the bottom.  Not the most exciting flight, but you
will need quite an arm to get it too far away on its return.

Enjoy your tossing...
--
   __o   Mike Richman                        !CIMMS/The University of Oklahoma
 _`\<,_  richman@reepicheep.gcn.uoknor.edu   !100 East Boyd, Room 1110
(*)/ (*) 405-325-3460 (office) 325-7614 (fax)!Norman, OK  73019-0628  USA
Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
From: bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm)
Subject: Re: Throwing tuning
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:58:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I had no intention of catching one of these plexiglass ones.  Just wanted to try it and
see how it looked.  And then if it did not fly good, send it out one final time hard 
and side-arm and see how much damage it took when it stopped on the ground.

I've finally been getting some catches, but still have to run for some of them.  At
least people look at me like I know what I am doing for a change.  Just got back in 
from an hour throwing.  I don't know which I enjoy most, the throwing or watching
them fly!

If Jim Mayfield reads this group, THANKS for some wonderful 'rangs!

Bill B.

Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
From: tries@obelix.kph.uni-mainz.de (Volker Tries)
Subject: xrang.tar.Z
Organization: Institute for Nuclear Physics, Uni Mainz, FRG
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:17:57 GMT

Hi,

I'm lookin' for the xrang.tar.Z-File.
Where can I get it?

Thanx  Volker

TRIES@SERVER.PHYSIK.UNI-GIESSEN.DE
TRIES@OBELIX.KPH.UNI-MAINZ.DE
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
Subject: Re: Throwing tuning
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:39:24 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com

In article <1993Jan25.005118.2068@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) writes:

> >building some of my own as I progress and was thinking of making one out of
> >some plexiglass I have, just to see how it worked out.
> 
> If you feel like cutting your fingers of, this might be fun.  Plexiglass 
> will do a few things.  It will spin very fast but not give you much 
> lift.  I doubt it will ever come back, and if you try to catch it, you 
> risk knocking your fingers off.. Although I suspect the most likely
> outcome is that it just smashes when it hits the ground.  Just a couple
> predictions.  I've seen em made from everything from foam to aluminum.

I've seem 'em made from colored plexiglas!  B-man used to sell them (assuming 
he doesn't still) that came in cloth cases.  Very jewel-like in the air.  I've
never thrown one, though, much less caught one.  I imagine it can't be much
sharper than Jacques Whatsisname's plastic ones from France, though probably
denser.
-- 

cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com   --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com        write today for my special Investors' Packet...

Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
From: bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm)
Subject: Re: Throwing tuning
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:07:08 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Jim,

Thanks for the many pointers.  Each piece of information was very helpful.

There were two of us out there that day, a leftie and rightie (me).  My friend
the leftie prefered to throw with the elbow pointing outward and I found I throw
better with the elbow pointing to me.  At least I seem to get more flights that
way.

Point taken about practice, practice, practice.  I wanna anyway!

As to the spin, I had not thought about ease of imparting the spin being tied
to elbow-out or elbow-in.  That is another thing I think I will play with, too.
However, I think I was perhaps not quite clear about spin definition.  I was
thinking more along the lines of the actual amount of spin and it's effect.  I.e.
10 rpm vs 30 rpm (or whatever the rate is).  I would think that the more rpm I
give the 'rang as it leaves my hand, the higher it would climb.

I know about true side-arm being bad.  I wasn't thinking and threw one almost
purely sidearm and boy, did that give me a sore muscle!  However, I had not
noticed any tie-in between angle from vertical and flight pattern (circular vs
elleptical vs straight out and back).  Perhaps I had too much wind for that
to have any effect on the flight path.  That is another think I'll have to
check out.

Why don't you like the plastic ones?  Mine is wood, but I was thinking of
building some of my own as I progress and was thinking of making one out of
some plexiglass I have, just to see how it worked out.

Bill

Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
From: bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm)
Subject: Throwing tuning
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:26:08 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Well, I just got out and did some throwing with my new 'rang.  Aside from the fact
that we had some heavy wind at the time (30-35 mph) I had fun.  I just could not wait
for a calmer day, I'd been waiting too long for the 'rang to get here!!!  And yeah, I
did have to chase it back behind me most of the time.

Now that I have the initial urge out of my system, I want to work on tuning my throw
so that it will come back to me, or at least closer than 20 yards for starters! ;^)

I would appreciate tips on how to control the various variables so that I can really
learn by seeing and doing just what each does.  For example, I observed that for me
on that day, the more out of vertical my throw was, the higher the 'rang climbed.
Yet, it also appeared to do that if I threw to a higher altitude referenced against
my horizon.  So, what would be the best way to control all these variables so to 
work on just one at a time?  There is force of throw, spin imparted to the 'rang,
angle of throw above the horizon, angle of throw from vertical, angle to the wind.
None of these can be pinned down rigidly, obviously.  Is there any one of these that
is more difficult to control that I should perhaps start with?  Anything I have left
out of this list?  I have the instructions that came with the 'rang and am still
waiting for my _Boomerang_ book to get here, but that is about it.

Ye gads!  Just thinking about it makes me long to get up and go out to the park and
throw for an hour or so!

Bill Blohm
bblohm@hpbs1686.boi.hp.com      (Boise, Idaho)
From: cq363@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James D. Rofkar)
Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
Subject: Re: Throwing tuning
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:15:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu



Hi Bill:

With regards to throwing your new boomerang, I'll try to answer
some of the questions you had with answers that have worked
for me.

- The force of throw:
I find it best to go with your own throwing speed.  This is
really dependant on your strength and the weight of the
boomerang.  I've got a whole gammot of light and heavy ones,
and I throw each of them with separate throwing power.

- Spin imparted on the 'rang:
Again, go for your own style.  I see guys throw them with the
elbow pointing outward, and I see guys throw them with the
elbow pointing back at them.  I prefer the elbow pointing back
at me because I can usually get a greater spin on the 'rang.
This is really good for stability of flight!

- Angle of throw above the horizon:
I prefer to throw slightly above the horizon.  I notice that the
higher that I throw, the lower it will be when it returns to me.
Likewise, if I throw it low (at the horizon), it will climb and
come down on me during my catch.  Decide for yourself.  Some
trick throws are dependant on this one.

- Angle of throw from vertical:
I personally like to throw about 75 to 80 degrees above side-arm.
This usually gives a good flight pattern.  However, depending
on how the boomerang is made, it might have either a straight
out and back in flight, or it might have a very circular flight
pattern (my choice).  I notice that the more sidearm I throw, the
more likely it is to go straight out, then straight back at me.  True
sidearm is VERY BAD!!!  It can easily get out of control and ruin
a perfectly good 'rang (I should know).

- Angle to the wind:
I prefer to have the wind blowing in the ear opposite my throwing
arm.  I am right handed, thus I prefer to have the wind blowing
in my left ear.  The reason being, I can relax my throwing because
the wind will carry the 'rang back to me.

I find the most difficult to control is the wind (obviously). 
However, all factors weigh in fairly equally.  Just practice,
practice, practice (always with the same boomerang) until you
are comfortable.  I make my own, and it usually takes a good
month before I can master them.  I also like the heavier 'rangs,
because they are less likely to get forced around by the wind.
I also throw next to Lake Erie -- it's very windy!  I hate
plastic 'rangs!

Like you I also want to get out and throw my mine.  I miss
the warm sunny weather.

Take care and good luck!
Jim Rofkar
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.economics
From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
Subject: Re: This "Interest Rates are Sucking up the GNP" Thing
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:59:48 GMT

asoper@wyvern.twuug.com (Aubrey Soper) writes:

>After all the dollars are sent to Japan and Germany, etc, then what?

The dollar falls, Hondas and Mercedes become more expensive,
Compaqs and 80486s become cheaper. This results in a better
trade balance with Japan and Germany since it becomes easier
export cheaper goods and harder to import more expensive ones.

So, the trade balance is improved, but the consumer has to
fork over more for his Mercedes.

-Larry Watanabe watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.economics
From: doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Oliver)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: This "Interest Rates are Sucking up the GNP" Thing
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:10:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <C1H838.1DFI@austin.ibm.com> alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss) writes:
>But, you don't need historical data here, junior.  You need only
>try to answer the question, "what happens when the proportion of
>the total expenditures of the US Government for interest exceeds
>any other budget item?"
>

Please enlighten me....what exactly DOES happen when the proportion of the total
expenditure of the US Government for interest exceeds any other budget item?

I am naive enough to think that there is no particular significance to this
paricular point of interest requirements by the government....

-David Oliver (doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.economics
From: pas@kepler.unh.edu (Paul A Sand)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform
Subject: Re: Libertarians and Labor Unions
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:20:17 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform
Organization: University of New Hampshire
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

[alt.politics.perot and alt.activism removed from followups]

ss: Scott Susin

ss: There aren't any laws that _force_ people to join labor unions,
    however, unions often _negotiate_ contracts with employers that
    require employees to join a union. Judging from the replies to this
    question, it seems like the libertarians out there are suggesting
    that unions and companies shouldn't be allowed to negotiate such
    contracts. Having the government ban certain types of contracts
    seems like a clear violation of libertarian tenets to me.

ss: Note that if an employee is unhappy about being required to join a
    union, she doesn't have to work there--in the same way that she can
    quit if she doesn like, say, the benefits package the company
    offers.

ss: Now, since in 24 states, such contracts are _illegal_ (these are
    so-called 'right to work' states), how come libertarians never
    attack these clear restrictions on the right to make contracts?

Mr. Susin follows a less than admirable net.tradition of basing one's
postings on nearly complete ignorance of what libertarians actually
say. He's simply wrong.  The Libertarian Party 1992 Platform, for
example, urges ``repeal of ... all state Right-to-Work Laws which
prohibit employers from making voluntary contracts with unions.''
-- 
-- Paul A. Sand           | God has to have a bang path.
-- Univ. of New Hampshire | A *big bang* path.
-- pas@kepler.unh.edu     | 	(Craig Dowell, in rec.arts.books)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.economics
From: beers@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Jim Beers)
Subject: Re: This "Interest Rates are Sucking up the GNP" Thing
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:15:27 GMT

In article <C1H838.1DFI@austin.ibm.com> alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.162924.25658@tc.cornell.edu> beers@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Jim Beers) writes:
>>In article <C1GvEr.151w@austin.ibm.com> alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss) writes:
>>Ok, I know I am not an economist, but I enjoy this news group to provide
>>opinions, arguments, and information.  This is what "humble lovable" Ross
>>would want.
>
>Your prose drips with the sarcasm of youth.
>
>

From your prose, I gather you are not an economist either.


>>So what is NNP?  I know what GNP is, and I know that the US has switched 
>>to GDP for its statistics and so forth.  IS NNP anything like GDP?
>
>Net National Product.  GDP is Gross Domestic Product.
>No, NNP is not the same as GDP.

I know what NNP and GDP stand for, even what GDP is defined as.  So what is NNP?

>
>>Also, can we use GDP to compare to GNP when looking at historical data?
>
>No.
>But, you don't need historical data here, junior.  You need only
>try to answer the question, "what happens when the proportion of
>the total expenditures of the US Government for interest exceeds
>any other budget item?"

I think jumping to brash conclusions makes real answers difficult.
For example, has the debt ever been higher then it is right now?
Well, no, but it depends on how you measure it.  The GNP has never
been higher either.  So a fair question is, has the national debt
ever been higher, compared to the GNP, then it is now?  Well, I don't
know, the government no longer reports GNP, thus the question.

So what happens "what happens when the proportion of the total expenditures
 of the US Government for interest exceeds any other budget item?"  
Again, I don't know.  Has it ever happened before?  I do know that
the debt has exceeded the GNP.  Currently, it does not.  So what is
the significance?   Does Ross know?

Me.

>
>
>>Does anyone have budget info that does not include social security, but does 
>>include "off budget items"  I would like to knwo how the debt compares to
>>historical data, but they switched to including ss into it.  What was done
>>with "off budget" items in the past?  
>
>
>It doesn't matter.  But, in case you want to know, historically
>nothing was "off-budget."  Starting in the 1970's this became more
>and more of a practice.  Thus, you may NEVER be able to get an
>accurate historical accounting.
>
>-- 
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> _| ~-. alan%auntbea.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com | Austin, TX 78758
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.economics
From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Subject: Re: Perot's "United We Stand America" launched today
Organization: Partnership for an America Free Drug
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:06:14 GMT

emmett@kpc.com (Emmett Kilgariff) writes:
>There hasn't been a national debt for 200 years. The current debt started
>with Nixon's deficit spending. Before that, we had a small surplus. We have
>had a periodic national debt, but all of them (except the last one) were
>eventually paid off.

Although I agree that the debt is a problem, this is simply not true.
The original poster was right -- we've been in debt continuously for a
very long time -- over 200 years. We ran a surplus for a couple of
years in the 1950s, and besides that have been in deficit since the
Second World War.. However, this is meaningless. The debt is not a
critical worry so long as it isn't growing faster than the economy --
but it has been for quite some time now, since the 1970s.

--
Perry Metzger		pmetzger@shearson.com
--
Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.economics
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Minor Technical Question
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:26:27 GMT

lwall@netlabs.com (Larry Wall) writes:
] 
] Sure, there's a sucker born every minute--and the stupid ones turn into cynics.

Are you suggesting that one NOT
take everything said in a 
Political Campaign at Strick Biblical Literal Face Value?????


ciao
drieux



-- 
MajorModernDayProblems: 

sometimes, a thing will happen after another thing, 
and they may not be connected..... 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.economics
From: emmett@kpc.com (Emmett Kilgariff)
Subject: Re: Perot's "United We Stand America" launched today
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Corporation, Santa Clara, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:07:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.004735.14256@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>In article <C12qnu.17Ko@austin.ibm.com> alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss) writes:
>>....  Fact is, if the debt is not paid, we all lose.
>>You cannot prove otherwise.
>
>Prove it.   We've had a debt for 200 years.  No problem, unless it gets
>*too* big.
>
There hasn't been a national debt for 200 years. The current debt started
with Nixon's deficit spending. Before that, we had a small surplus. We have
had a periodic national debt, but all of them (except the last one) were
eventually paid off.


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