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From: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: maddona's new book?
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:51:18 GMT
Reply-To: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Organization: European Computer-Industry Research Centre, Munich

In article <BxLo74.8LG@dunaad.co.uk> ah@dunaad.co.uk (Alan Hunter) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.204931.686@ab.wvnet.edu> onda@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
>>
>>	can someone send me info on maddona's new book
>>	i am very *curious* as to what it is about?
>
>Madonna's Anatomy Diagrams, Desultory Onanists' Newest Accessory

(In the archaic English contained in letters to English papers in India)
	Kudos to Alan Hunter for his witty review.

Methinks the r.a.b.id need a decent comp, like the ones in New Statesman.
How about Clerihew on modern writing?  To get things rolling:
	Vikram Seth
	Wrote "The Golden Gate"
	A novel in sonnet verse
	On West Coast Boomers.

(aabb, first line a name. Yes, Virginia, that's how Seth should be pronounced.)

Cheers,
Sanjiva
--
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European Computer Industry Research Centre		Off: +49 89 92 69 91 58
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires)
Subject: Carlos Castaneda information available!
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 10:08:26 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

[Sorry to post, but the thread is gone from my system]

There was a gentleman who was looking for a bibliography
and other information on Carlos Castaneda.  I have the 
email address of someone who will provide lots of info 
via physical mail.  Send me a message if you are listening...

BTW, if LAUREN CRAWFORD is reading this, you still owe me
a dollar for that Playboy interview, Bud!

Roger Squires
rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: ""...a rose is a rose ...""
Organization: Clark University
Date: 5 NOV 92 23:28:17 GMT


posey@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Posey) writes:

>At the risk of raising the intellectual level of this chain:

With a name like Posey, you truly are obligated to contribute
to this thread. 

>"Lida Lee sat on a tack ...
>"Lida Lee Rose"
> 
>(courtesty Burgess Meredith, the original music man) 

This was a favorite joke of my father's.  "Heather sat on a tack,
and Heather Rose!"  Now I find out he stole it from somebody else.
What a relief.

Heather Rose 
HHENDERSON@vax.clarku.edu
From: warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: fake accents
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:08:29 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne---Laboratoire de
	Teleinformatique
In-reply-to: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU's message of 10 Nov 92 00:08:01 GMT

Fuller:
>>                                                 One who reads a given
>>language knows perfectly well where the accents go; one who doesn't read
>>it will not be helped by fake accents.

Corelis:
>    If I came to your house for appetizers, would you mind if I cut
> myself a piece of your pate?  

Pas de tout.

Je me souviens du verger de mon oncle qui donnait sur une petite
crique mediteraneenne, et quand je mange une peche, je me souviens
des peches et des peches.

But the fake accents are ugly.
--
Ken Warkentyne - warkent@ltisun.epfl.ch
                 Laboratoire de Teleinformatique, EPFL, Suisse.
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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel)
Subject: Re: Et in Arcadia ego
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:31:24 GMT

In article <1dtrhuINNha3@morrow.stanford.edu>, francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes...

>>	Don't forget Laphroaig.
> 
>Too clean for my palate. Its name is the best thing about it. Its
>proper pronunciation seperates the boyyos from the bairns. I encourage 
>"Lap Frog" which innuends a tame froggie on ones knee.
> 
>							Frang na Mara

To my taste, which definately runs to smokey malts, Laphroaig's name is
not the ONLY good thing about it.  Although it has lost a little punch
in the last say 5 years, it still is a delicious peaty scotch that stands
up to a fine cigar, and is anything but tame.  I intend, someday, to visit
that beautiful little hollow by the broad bay.

The other Islay great, though perahps less well-known than Laphroaig, is 
Lagavulin.  From there it's only a hop to the Isle of Skye for a wee dram
o' Talisker.

Ron MacNadel
From: entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Columbus and the Egg?
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:36:16 GMT
Reply-To: entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <ABL.92Nov9090946@cybill.inesc.pt>, abl@cybill.inesc.pt (Antonio Leal) writes:
>neal@hpcndm.CND.HP.COM (Neal Bauer) writes:
>
>   If this was a test of cultural literacy, we all flunked.  Can anybody out
>   there enlighten us?  What is the story of Columbus and the egg?
>
>
...
>A mite ticked off, Columbus grabbed an egg from a nearby plate, and
>asked the speaker if he could make it stand up on the table.  The
>speaker tried, but of course the egg rolled to its side.  Other diners
>gave it a try, but none could do it.  So Columbus took the egg, cracked
>the shell slightly at the wide end, and stood it up on the table.
>
>--
>Antonio B. Leal		| IST / INESC
>+351.1.310 0300		| R. Alves Redol 9, 1000 Lisboa
>abl@inesc.pt		| Portugal

Can anyone out there explain why it is possible to stand an uncooked
egg on its end on the two days a year of the equinox and at not
other time?

Erik Timmerman
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Re: Advice to the World Weary (was Re: The Eudaemonic Pie
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:46:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.113228.13212@klaava.Helsinki.FI> amnell@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Marko Amnell) writes:
>In <1992Nov5.232525.5557@netcom.com> tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox) writes:
>
>>[Taranto responds]: 
>>>World weariness is nothing new.  Housman is full of it:
>
>>	As are many self-important adolescents, those in the actual physical
>>state and those emotionally arrested there.
>
>Is this a trick question, Tom?  

	Not a  question at all, as simple inspection should show.  Merely
an observation.

>Which might I be?  What can I say, you
>got me where I live.  How dare I ever post to the net again?  --after
>this fixing in a formulated phrase, sprawling on a pin.  Why does 
>every post to this group make me feel more and more like Klaus von B"ulow?
>Now, where did I leave that insulin?

	You're more Prufrock than von Bulow, I'm afraid, and more a 
dispenser of saccharin than insulin.

-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		"The Reptoids eat humans like we eat chickens."
				Alex Alexander
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: dth2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David T Ho)
Subject: Wittgenstein's PI
Reply-To: dth2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David T Ho)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:28:54 GMT

I was told that Wittgenstein's _Philosophical Investigations_ has gone
out of print.  Is this true?  Is this just in the United States, or in
other countries as well?  This is incredulous.  To me, this is the
equivalence of saying, "The Bible is out of print."


--
David T. Ho                       
dth2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
dth@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: zornow@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Claudia Zornow)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:36:00 GMT
Subject: 20,000 Leagues
Organization: HP SSD R & D
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books

Some time ago, perhaps in this group, I heard tell of a book
possibly called _The Annotated 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea_.

My local bookstore, using "Books in Print," has failed to come
up with that title, but they did find something called _The
Complete 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea_.

Before committing $29.95 to order it sight unseen, I would
like to find out whether this book is indeed an annotated
version of the Verne book.  Do any of you know?

Thanks,
Claudia
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires)
Subject: Re: The Secret Garden (and Wind In The Willows)
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 04:49:44 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov9.012131.9173@csusac.csus.edu> yarnot@babbage.csus.edu (Jan Yarnot) writes:
>
>Bantam Classic edition, ISBN 0-553-21201-X (1987).
>

	How are the illustrations?  My edition is delightful with
	the Tasha Tudor charcoal drawings in the chapter headings
	and intermittent watercolors (temperas?).

	Which reminds me :)  I would like to find the edition of
	_Wind in the Willows_ that I read long ago.  It's format
	is similar to the above (pen & ink for chapter headings,
	gorgeous and expressive plates) and the drawings for me
	are the definitive versions of Toad, Rat, etc.  I recall
	that it was a hardback with a hard slipcase, a forward
	by Teddy Roosevelt, and I distinctly recall seeing an
	identical book in a mail-order classics series ad in
	some slick mag or other a few years ago.
	Anybody have a pointer?

>
>It's a great introduction, to a really great story.
>--

	Agree (on the second clause anyway).

>---Jan Yarnot, net.grandma.-- | A lifetime of smirking behind your hand

Roger Squires
rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu
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From: chucks@uars2.acd.ucar.edu (Chuck Smythe)
Subject: Re: GENIUS:Life/Science of Richard Feynman
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:58:47 GMT

In article <28054@castle.ed.ac.uk> jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:

>Incidentally, I found myself curious to learn more about Freeman Dyson. Any
>biographies about him?

Dyson - _Disturbing the Universe_ (Autobiograpy of sorts)
Brower- _The Starship and the Canoe_ (Mostly about George Dyson, but his dad
         appears at some length.)

			Chuck Smythe

Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Subject: Re: Torturing Politicals
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:18:46 GMT

In article <WARKENT.92Nov9131714@ltisun14.epfl.ch> warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne) writes:
}
}Other topics not suitable for humourous treatment:
}
}  Rape
}  Incest
}  Hitler

"Springtime for Hitler and Germany/ Winter for Poland and France... Don't be
stupid, be a smarty, come and join the Nazi Party..."

}  Cannibalism

Remember "Eating Raoul"?

}  Genghis Khan
}  The Spanish Inquisition


Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
oneself and others." - Voltaire
From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: The Eudaemonic Pie
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:04:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov6.040409.17159
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

In article <1992Nov5.232230.5279@netcom.com> 
tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox) writes:

>In article <1992Nov2.144747.8341@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
>amnell@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Marko Amnell) writes:

MA:
>>I don't bring peace of mind, I bring a sword to cut you free from Habit.

TM:
>	*Megalomania alert*.

How unintentionally ironic.

>-- 
>				Tom Maddox
>		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
>		"The Reptoids eat humans like we eat chickens."
>				Alex Alexander

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Nous donnons la mort, nous saurons la subir."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: sheilah@wam.umd.edu (Sheila Herndon)
Subject: Re: Torturing Politicals
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:17:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.223435.17061@informix.com> proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts) writes:
>In article <WARKENT.92Nov9131714@ltisun14.epfl.ch> warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne) writes:
...
>>  Cannibalism
...

>Now come on .... Hitler and the Spanish Inquisition have ample scope
>for humour, as demonstrated by numerous Monty Python sketches.

It could be irony.


One more example - "I won't eat people! I don't eat people! Eating
people is wrong!"



I won't eat people!
I don't eat people!


Eatingpeopleiswrong! 
-- 
I am always wrong. Don't believe me ever.
stark raving sane  sheilah@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: alison@wsrcc.com (Alison Chaiken)
Subject: Re: careful handling required?
Organization: W S Rupprecht Computer Consulting, Fremont CA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:39:24 GMT

fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster) writes:
>Annie Dillard (in _Living_by_Fiction_) says it is very hard to write
>good fiction about strong emotions or violence.  By "good" I think she
>means not only beautiful, but also truthful.  She implies that a
>narrative behaving in a surface-only fashion toward the great awful
>moments in the life of a human being, is just not up to snuff. 

Speaking of strong emotions and violence, what did other folks thing
of the ending of _Something Happened_ by Joseph Heller?  Was it lurid
and melodramatic, or was there something more?  I rather liked this
book, which I thought was a marvelously vivid portrayal of the
insecurities and hopes of the typical postwar American.  However, a
lot of my friends thought the book tedious or painful to read.

I think _Something Happened_ actually has a lot in common with
_Remains of the Day_ by Ishiguro.  Both are very carefully written,
slowly developed portraits of rather unsympathetic people.  And both
books have tragic endings which serve to suddenly draw you into
identifying with the narrator.

-- 
Alison Chaiken 				alison@wsrcc.com
(510) 422-7129 [daytime] 		or chaiken@cmsgee.llnl.gov
Look if you like, but you will have to leap.
From: yarnot@babbage.csus.edu (Jan Yarnot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: A Small Election-Eve Diversion [was: The Trut
Keywords: *BORing*
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:24:31 GMT
Organization: Moi?

In article <1992Nov6.045008.17160@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
At great length and for no reason.  For a change.
>hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>
>>I hope you don't take this personally, Mikhail, but you really
>>don't have to quote at such extreme length from the entire history
>>of every thread. 
>
>I know.  I like to.


Besides, Heather, I've wondered before if he *knows* how to edit.  I think not.
>
The small world/interesting thing is that my daughter roomed, last summer,
with someone who knows Mikhail.  We had a bit of a chat about him, and I was
confirmed in my belief that the best way to deal with the 100+ line regur-
gitations is the "n" key.  He does have the occasional interesting thing to
say, which is why I don't have him in my "Kill" file, but I generally "n"
anything longer than a screenful, and am happier for it.
>>		  The repetition is annoying -- something like being
>>trapped in a rehearsal hall listening to a troupe of echolalic
>>actors trying to perfect a scene.
>
(I'm onto Nichael, though I'm curious as to the pronunciation of the name.)

ObBooks:  Hmm.  *is* there an ObBooks?  OK, OK, I'm currently reading _Cats
in Space_.  More to the point, I had a major breakthrough today when one of my
kidlets started scribble-writing and telling me what he was writing.  Before
this, there was no indication whatsoever that he had any idea print had any
meaning at all.  IF (a big *if*) I can have this one a month or two longer,
I may convince him that reading is fun and he wants to do it.  Keep your fingers
crossed!
--
---Jan Yarnot, net.grandma.-- | A lifetime of smirking behind your hand
                              | is a lot better than a few seconds of
                              | triumph.
CSUS depends on my every word.              Kinsella, _Box Socials_
From: leey@cps.msu.edu (Yong Beom Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: looking for a phone number of Hearst Books in N.Y
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:40:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: leey@dolphin.cps.msu.edu




dear netters,
I want to know the phone number of the publisher "Hearst Books" in New
York.
If somebody knows, then please let me know.

Thanks in advance.


leey@cps.msu.edu
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: A Literary Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
Date: 6 Nov 1992 04:58:58 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu

*THE WIND IN THE WILLOWS* by Kenneth Grahame. Charles Scribner's Sons,
New York. Let's see what Toad's Ride was all about.

	Next moment, hardly knowing how it came about, he found he had 
	hold of the handle and was turning it. As the familiar sound 
	broke forth, the old passion seized on Toad and completely 
	mastered him, body and soul. As if in a dream he found himself, 
	somehow, seated in the driver's seat, as if in a dream, he 
	pulled the lever and swung the car round the yard and out 
	through the archway; and, as if in a dream, all sense of right 
	and wrong, all fear of obvious consequences, seemed temporarily
	suspended. He increased his pace, and as the car devoured the
	street and leapt forth on the high road through the open country,
	he was only conscious that he was Toad once more, Toad at his
	best and highest, Toad the terror, the traffic-queller, the Lord
	of the loan trail, before whom all must give way or be smitten
	into nothingness and everlasting night. He chanted as he flew,
	and the car responded with sonorous drone; the miles were eaten
	up under him as he sped he knew not whither, fulfilling his
	instincts, living his hour, reckless of what might come to him.

So that's what the Subject is really all about. Of the several editions
(Ernest H. Shephard's illustrations, of course. You know, the illustrator
for all of A. A. Milne's stuff. Hush, hush, nobody cares, Christopher
Robin has fallen down stairs). I am most fond of the larger edition
with the illustrations now in color wash (by Shepard himself, of course.
The last task he undertook). Nice big print, too.

							Fido
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: maddona's new book?
From: onda@ab.wvnet.edu
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:49:31 -0500
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College


	can someone send me info on maddona's new book
	i am very *curious* as to what it is about?
	thanks in advance.
	jason

Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Subject: Re: maddona's [sic] new book [sic]?
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:31:56 GMT


onda@ab.wvnet.edu (jason) writes:
 
>       can someone send me info on maddona's new book
>       i am very *curious* as to what it is about?
>       thanks in advance.
 
As with everything else that she does, and in spite of the books's title,
Madonna's new book is about one thing: Madonna
 
Mark
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Et in Arcadia ego
Date: 9 Nov 1992 15:19:02 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu

Marc Read of Balliol College, writes:

	Francis Muir writes:

		[lots deleted] 

		...unexpected and spectacular sight of herself [Heather
		Henderson] quaffing a mug of beer of quite unusual size. 
		Certainly larger than the typical Baliol Sconcing Mug and 
		somewhere between a Quart and a half-Gallon in capacity. 

		[lots more deleted]

	Sorry if this is question that should be for alt.usage.english 
	(and therefore beyond the contempt of the r.a.b.id), but what's 
	a Baliol Sconcing Mug?

Aside. Methinks the youth would catch me out. Mutter, mutter.

First, Baliol is the antiente spellynge of Balliol, now only found in
ancients like myself and the battle-cry of the second most senior college
at Oxford, Floreat Baliolo! Dining in Hall at Baliol used to be a formal
and obligatory affair. First-year undergraduates had to eat so many meals
in Hall a week, a term, whatever. There was also a dining-in-Hall protocol.
Gowns to be worn, as also socks, shirts, &c. In addition, several subjects
of conversation were proscribed: politics, religion, a woman mentioned by
name. If an infraction occured, then the senior man (now person, I suppose)
at the table would sconce the perpetrator. A formal note was written and 
signed by this senior (in a Classical language?), and then handed to a Scout 
serving table who would take the note and hand it to whomever was presiding 
over Head Table, the Visitor perhaps, or the Master, and so on down. At this
point the perpetrator had an opportunity to defend himself (now her/him
of course), and this definitely had to be in a Classical language. I remember
one defense in Classical Mandarin which suceeded because Lord Lindsay,
the Master, did not wish to show up his ignorance of the language.If the
defense failed, then the Guilty Person was proffered a Very large Mug of
rather appalling beer (Dixie? We shall never know), and this he had to quoff
in a single gulp. If he suceeded, that was that. If he did not, or did
not try, then the mug was passed round and the GP payed.

In my time Baliol was a monastery. Women were grudgingly allowed in college
as guests until 6pm, and after that, NOT! Hall was a frighteningly
masculine place. One evening I smuggled in my sweetheart, Rachel Myfanwy
Lewis, a Scholar of Somerville College, and got away with it, but I
cannot remember a like occasion during my tenure.

						Franciscus Muir
						Domus Exhibitioner
						Coll de Ball.
From: BL.JYC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Jon Corelis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: re: Torturing Politicals
Date: 11 Nov 1992 15:20:44 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

   Did you hear about the cannibal who passed his friend in the
forest?

   Haw!  Haw!  Haw!  Haw  Haw!
From: ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Advice to the World Weary (was Re: The Eudaemonic Pie
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:30:03 GMT
Reply-To: ncramer@labs-n.bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Interzone Office
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto) writes:
|>But I am starting to get a little concerned about Francis.  He can't
|>tell the difference between fiction and reality, can only relate
|>to others under the guise of an assumed persona, doesn't remember
|>if he was in New Orleans or not, and has this continuing image of
|>young Catholic boys in short pants.

My word.  You don't suppose he's become possessed by the spirit of that
other britishy Muir person who thought he was so funny, too, do you?

N
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From: dth2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David T Ho)
Subject: Re: Wittgenstein's PI
Reply-To: dth2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David T Ho)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:47:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.233954.7782@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.212854.9969@news.columbia.edu> dth2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David T Ho) writes:
>>I was told that Wittgenstein's _Philosophical Investigations_ has gone
>>out of print.  Is this true?
>
>Sounds as if someone is playing a language game with you.
>
>
>--Mike
>

Ha!  Ha!  Ha!  Ha!  Ha!  Oh, wait a minute...you're right, "Lying is a
language-game that needs to be learned like any other one" (PI 249).
But is this what you're saying?  Or are you just making light of my
question...

-Dave






--
David T. Ho                       
dth2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
dth@ocf.berkeley.edu