HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: news@ohare.Chicago.COM (news at ohare)
Newsgroups: chicago.news.stats,chi.news.stats,ba.news.stats
Subject: Weekly USENET Report for ohare
Date: 28 Dec 92 08:51:30 GMT
Organization: Chicago Software Works


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Newsgroups: chicago.news.stats,chi.news.stats,ba.news.stats
From: news@ohare.Chicago.COM (news at ohare)
Subject: Weekly USENET Report for ohare
Organization: Chicago Software Works
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:51:59 GMT


System       	Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	% total	% rejct
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Newsgroups: chi.news.stats,motmcg.news.lists
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: test
From: yb@netlink.cts.com (Scott Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 02:35:14 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

This is a test  ...   ignore.

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NetLink Online Communications * Public Access in San Diego, CA (619) 453-1115
Xref: sparky ca.general:1602 ca.driving:2640 ca.environment:1121
From: news@sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com (news)
Newsgroups: ca.general,ca.driving,ca.environment
Subject: Re: Four-Color Licence Plates of Yosemite's Tunnel View
Keywords: n
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:55:59 GMT
Followup-To: ca.general
Distribution: ca
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale

}For those of you who are interested, the Yosemite Fund is working through
}the DMV to create a special licence plate with of a four-color design of
}Yosemite's Tunnel View.  The plate will be available to California drivers 
}for $50 plus their standard car registration fee.
From: claude@leadse9.UUCP (Claude Goldsmith)
Is that $50/year or is it a one-time fee?


Claude Goldsmith, CFII <claude@sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com>
 twisted-pair (408) 742-7514	      | Opinions expressed are not 
 on the air - WB6UOO                  | necessarily those of my 
 through the air - Mooney N6416U      | employer.
From: dlee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (David Lee)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Four-Color Licence Plates of Yosemite's Tunnel View
Keywords: n
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:44:14 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

In article <19769@sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com> news@sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com (news) writes:
>}For those of you who are interested, the Yosemite Fund is working through
>}the DMV to create a special licence plate with of a four-color design of
>}Yosemite's Tunnel View.  The plate will be available to California drivers 
>}for $50 plus their standard car registration fee.
>
>Is that $50/year or is it a one-time fee?
>

It is $50 above your registration fee for the plates and $40 per year to renew.

David

David Lee                              e-mail: dlee@cs.ucla.edu
Graduate Student Researcher                    david@cad.ucla.edu
UCLA Manufacturing Engineering        ATTmail: (310) 206-4803
33-128 Engineering IV                          (310) 825-7821
Los Angeles, CA 90024-1597                     (310) 839-0373
Xref: sparky ca.general:1603 ca.driving:2645 ca.environment:1125
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: test
From: yb@netlink.cts.com (Scott Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 02:37:28 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

> This is a test  ...   ignore.



test

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From: faustus@ygdrasil.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Wayne A. Christopher)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: car 4 sale
Date: 26 Dec 1992 23:43:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: ygdrasil.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <1hil9cINNqjl@sal-sun80.usc.edu> osuri@usc.edu (Ram) writes:
> I have a car for sale this is my third posting so excuse the other posts.
> My car is an 84' Honda Civic that is exactly 84000 miles

You must have the longest driveway in the world...

	Wayne
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: stssram@st.unocal.COM (Bob Myers)
Subject: Re: cool bars in San Diego??
Reply-To: Bob.Myers@st.unocal.com
Organization: Unocal Energy Resources Division
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:13:18 GMT


Hmm.  I wonder if this means that there aren't any.

:-)



--
Bob Myers                              Unocal Energy Resources Division
Internet: Bob.Myers@st.unocal.com      Exploration and Seismic Technology
Phone: [714] 693-6951                  P. O. Box 68076
                                       Anaheim, California 92817-8076
Xref: sparky ca.general:1608 ca.driving:2649 ca.environment:1126
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: ca.general,ca.driving,ca.environment
Subject: Re: Update: Four-Color Licence Plates of Yosemite's Tunnel View (long)
Date: 25 Dec 92 03:00:07 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

>	The Yosemite Fund
>	155 Montgomery Street, Suite 1104
	    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	San Francisco, California 94104

I regard this organization with some suspicion until further notice.
It is not that they are not doing a good act or have done past good acts,
but I regard it as a non-profit PR holding org for other companies.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			3 down 1 to go.
Newsgroups: ca.general,ba.general
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ca.general,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Oakland Airport to Moscone in SFO?
Date: 27 Dec 92 23:31:01 GMT
Followup-To: ca.general
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Richard Mossman <rkmossm@PacBell.COM> writes:

	Take the shuttle bus from Oakland to the BART ...

	[ ... ]

	Be sure to have the dollar for the shuttle bus trip from the
	airport. The bus drivers appreciate it when they don't have to
	make change while people are standing outside the bus with
	their hands full of heavy luggage.

Took that shuttle the other night, and it's now $2.  There's a fare
box, and the driver makes no change.  He did help a guy with a $5 bill
Do The Right Thing with the next two passengers in line, but what a
mess.

/jordan
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: markp@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Mark Panitz)
Subject: Re: Oakland Airport to Moscone in SFO?
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/453-8726 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:57:15 GMT

better yet,  just  take an AC Transit bus instead of the shuttle
bus is cheaper, and also goes to the same Bart Station  as does the
shuttle, and the bus is cheaper.-beside the shuttle waits until it full
before it leaves. the bus doesn't.. then you catch Bart at Oakland
Airport/Coluisem station-just make sure you have change for Bart (or a lot
of $5.00s)
From: Mark.Perew@p201.f208.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Four-Color Licence Plates of Yosemite's Tunnel View
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 21 Dec 92  15:20:36

In a message of <Dec 20 11:02>, dlee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (David Lee) writes;

 >For those of you who are interested, the Yosemite Fund is working through
 >the DMV to create a special licence plate with of a four-color design of
 >Yosemite's Tunnel View.

I don't suppose that it has occured to you that California already suffers
from an extreme case of Tunnel Vision.  

:-)

--- Mark Perew  Mark.Perew@ofa123.fidonet.org
--- Mark's Information Repository and Funtime Emporium (1:103/208.201)


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Newsgroups: ca.general,ba.general
From: osuri@usc.edu (Ram)
Newsgroups: usc.general,ca.general
Subject: car 4 sale
Date: 26 Dec 1992 14:10:52 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun80.usc.edu


I have a car for sale this is my third posting so excuse the other posts.

My car is an 84' Honda Civic that is exactly 84000 miles

1) it is registered till june 93
2) has a new clutch just put in a month ago
3) has 4 brand new tires
4) has a new exhaust system
5) the car is white it is a 1500S model
6) it is a 5-speed system
7) has a viper alarm
8) has a kenwood pull out stereo system 
9) has a ignition kill system
10) have all the paper work since the first owner
11) have given it all the tune ups required
12) never had any accidents ,I am the third owner 
13) has been appraised  and checked out completely

Asking price is 2600.00 or o.b.o   

must sell am very willing to negotiate.

email osuri@aludra.usc.edu or call (213) 766-0125

Newsgroups: ca.test
From: asingh@agsm.ucla.edu (Arvind Singh)
Subject: testing Pnews
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Distribution: ca
Date: 30 Dec 92 10:22:53 PST




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	---- Aurobindo

:wq
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Subject: ignore
Newsgroups: ca.test
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:53:08 GMT
Distribution: ca

tewslkjsdflkjsdflkjsdflkj
-- 
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Coast Community College District   1370 Adams Avenue
District Information Services      Costa Mesa, CA, USA  92626
Technical Support                  (714) 432-5064
"You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." - tunefs(1M)
From: s92068to@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Tetsuya Ohnishi)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: test
Date: 2 Jan 93 09:05:04 GMT
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus, Fujisawa Japan

This is a test.
A happy New Year!!

 tetsu

from Japan
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Subject: ignore local inn
Newsgroups: ca.test
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:43:49 GMT
Distribution: ca

testing 1 2 3.
-- 
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Coast Community College District   1370 Adams Avenue
District Information Services      Costa Mesa, CA, USA  92626
Technical Support                  (714) 432-5064
"You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." - tunefs(1M)
Newsgroups: ca.test,la.test
From: new@pain.la.ca.us (New User Login)
Subject: new configs...test
Organization: Public Access Info Network  (818/776-1447)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:01:00 GMT
Distribution: ca

Testing newly installed LINUX system, Linux-v0.99p1.
Hope this makes it to netland....
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: richardb@blackhole.ind.trw.com (Richard Brehove)
Subject: test
Organization: TRW Information Networks Programs, Carson C.A. USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:02:22 GMT

Am I getting out at all.  Somebody please answer me.   HELLOOOOOOOOOO....
.

-- 
==========
Richard S. Brehove         "No, God does NOT grade on a curve"
TRW Inc.  1760 Glenn Curtiss St. Carson, CA  90746 
richardb@blackhole.ind.TRW.COM   Phone: (310)764-6662
From: frank@calcom.socal.com (Frank Keeney)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: Test
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:24:00 GMT


Test

 * Origin: Infomania, Pasadena, CA 818.791.8680 v32b (1:102/960.1)
From: dmorriso@teal.us.oracle.com (David Morrison)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: testing
Date: 31 Dec 92 23:19:33 GMT
Organization: /home/dmorriso/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: teal.us.oracle.com


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Newsgroups: ca.test
From: news@proton.llumc.edu ()
Subject: testing
Organization: LLUMC Radiation Research Lab
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:42:02 GMT

1-2-3...
From: nizara@pain.la.ca.us (Nizar Allibhoy)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: Testing in California
Keywords: test California
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 14:15:20 PST
Organization: Public Access Info Network  (818/776-1447)

This is a test.

--
nizara@pain.la.ca.us
Xref: sparky ca.politics:10494 talk.politics.misc:65289
From: manley@optilink.COM (Terry Manley)
Newsgroups: ca.politics,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Gay/Lesbian Equal Rights Needed
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:14:50 GMT
Organization: DSC/Optilink Access Products

In article <1992Dec22.195644.9856@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty) writes:
>
>In article <13696@optilink.COM>, manley@optilink.COM (Terry Manley) writes:


I don't have time to respond to all of your points right now,
but I can respond to one of them:

>But you have no idea who your partner had sex with last week, or last 
>year, or 5 years ago.  

*YOU* may have no idea, but *I* do.

I think that is the problem.

dave
manley@optilink.com
From: pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Paul Bartholomew)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: Gay/Lesbian Equal Rights Needed
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:54:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Image Processing Lab

In article <13674@optilink.COM>, cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> Shall I post some examples from soc.motss?  

and again....
> Shall I post some of the "examples" from soc.motss?

Not unless you can establish that your cross-postings are:

1) relevant to the topic and have some political content (these are political
newsgroups, after all).

2) typical of the people who read and/or post to soc.motss and representative
of the views of a majority of those posters (keeping in mind that you are
among that number).

3) typical of the population of homosexuals at large and representative of
the views of a majority of homosexuals.

4) say what you claim they say.

Since you really can't meet any of those requirements, please don't bother
re-posting the same old shit you've been posting for more than a year and
a half.  Your constant cross-posting from soc.motss reveals far more about
you than it does about the people who post to soc.motss.

and again....
> It's the only characterization I can make of homosexuals, from reading
> soc.motss.

I've read soc.motss for the past two months, primarily because I was made
curious by your characterization of the group.  To put it politely, you
are wrong.  In the year and a half you've been accumulating cross-postings
from soc.motss, I estimate that there have been *at least* 15,000 postings
to soc.motss.  Given that you cull that group assiduously for any question-
able material you can use, the hundred or so postings in your collection
can hardly be called "typical" by any reasonable definition of the word.

I never cease to be amazed that you can read the postings of a couple of
dozen people and decide that you are qualified to judge a population of
several million homosexuals.

I'm not going to continue reading soc.motss because I'm not particularly
interested in the newsgroup.  I just wanted to check for myself on how
"vile and depraved" it is.  I encourage everybody to spend half an hour and
browse through the newsgroup.  I suspect that you'll find Mr. Cramer's
characterization incorrect.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Bartholomew        |  Clayton Cramer:  "[Brian Kane] and Paul Bartholomew
                        |  are among the best examples of how screwed-up and
pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov |  emotionally disturbed homosexuals are."
                        |  (For the record, Brian is bi and I'm straight.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clayton Cramer:  "[S]omeone who lacks the self-control to respond to facts
without engaging in character assassination ... is so irrational as to be a
waste of time to argue with."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Gay/Lesbian Equal Rights Needed
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:03:35 GMT

Keywords: 

In article <1992Dec22.195644.9856@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty) writes:
]In article <13696@optilink.COM>, manley@optilink.COM (Terry Manley) writes:
]|>
]|>People look at the % increases for heterosexuals and assume that rate
]|>applies to all heterosexuals - when it clearly does not.  
]
]People look at the % increase and realize that U.S. heterosexual HIV
]infection can go from a little problem to a very big problem very quickly.
Then why hasn't it? The numbers have changed little, and we are 12 years
into this epidemic. Pattern 2 countries have a huge heterosexual AIDS
problem - but the US doesn't. I submit that whatever is different between
the US and pattern 2 countries is the difference - our epidemic just
hasn't taken off, except among homosexuals, drug abusers, and those
who have sex with them.
]
]But you have no idea who your partner had sex with last week, or last 
]year, or 5 years ago.  
Yes, but since the female->male transmission rate is tiny, it is less
important than with gay sex.
]
]If a promiscuous high school student in a small town becomes infected, for 
]what ever reason,  and starts to have sex with other promiscuous students 
]at the same high school, how long before a significant portion of the 
]highschool becomes infected ?  
A VERY long time, because AIDS is just not very contagious - especially
from women to men.
]
]And how many need to become infected before you think its a significant 
]problem.

]Epidemics are still controllable when they still occur in little clusters.
]Unfortunately, when its reported that a certain group of people have a very
]high rate of infection, you do your best to deterimine how these people
]are different from you, and then say "its not my problem."

Well, it's still a problem. It's just that the emphasis on heterosexual
AIDS is overblown. Consider how many extremely promiscuous males
there are among sports stars, and how few of them have caught AIDS (Magic
was by his own admission extremely promiscuous).


-- 
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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: More AIDS absurdity - 1Billion AIDS cases
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:37:57 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Arthur_T_Hu@cup.portal.com writes:
>  gay in San Francisco, or drug user in NYC and a farmer in South Dakota are
> the same. There is a huge difference. Anyone who said AIDS does not
>  discrminate does not discriminate between a 1 in 2 chance of being HIV+
>  for a gay drug user and 1 in 100,000 for the farmer in Fargo.


A great misconception about AIDS is that only people in big cities
can get it, or only people who are gay or use IV drugs.  Wrong.
About a month ago, Newsweek published a map of the U.S. showing
the HIV infection rate in each area, with darker colors meaning a
higher rate.   The 1984 map showed almost no infection in the
midwest, except for a couple of pockets around Chicago.  The 1991 map
showed huge blotches of color all over the farm belt.   THIS IS NOT
A CRISIS OF BIG CITIES ALONE.   To say that the farmer in Fargo
is not at risk is wrong.  The farmer is at risk if he engages in
risky behavior, and some of them do.  (e.g. prostitutes)


-- 

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
From: manley@optilink.COM (Terry Manley)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: More AIDS absurdity - 1Billion AIDS cases
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:05:28 GMT
Organization: DSC/Optilink Access Products

In article <1gtftvINN79i@copland.crhc.uiuc.edu> pgr@crhc.uiuc.edu (Paul Ryan) writes:

>Consider this: infection rates among gays are dropping, while AIDS is taking
>off among the people that fools like you are encouraging not to take AIDS
>seriously.

What is your definition for infection rate and what is your source?


Thanks,

dave
manley@optilink.com

Newsgroups: ca.politics,talk.politics.misc
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Gay/Lesbian Equal Rights Needed
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:39:18 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <13717@optilink.COM> manley@optilink.COM (Terry Manley) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.195644.9856@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty) writes:
>>But you have no idea who your partner had sex with last week, or last 
>>year, or 5 years ago.  
>*YOU* may have no idea, but *I* do.
>I think that is the problem.

No, you *think* you have an idea, and you let trust in your partner's word
carry the ball the rest of the way.  That's your decision, but don't confuse
faith with knowledge.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG              {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!sgiblab!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
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