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From: pete@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: More on Sydney Rave Problems
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:10:21 GMT

aldis@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:
>The promoters did all the right things (including making sure
>there was ample security and first aid) and the police were
>fully aware of the event and present throughout the night, but
>becasue there was evidence that people had been taking drugs
>(shock, horror!) it's been blown out of the water. 

Something like this had to happen eventually. If it wasn't the car
accidents it would have been something else - just the fact that
there are plenty of illegal drugs at raves would have been enough
eventually.

>The authorites are the ones that have pushed the parties
>further and further out of the city because of noise
>restrictions, etc...

This is bullshit. Happy Valley was unusually far out - I really wanted to
go to it, and I go to a lot of raves, but HVII was not really in Sydney
at all. It was in Wollongong. Every weekend there are raves in Sydney
that I can get to by taxi without sinking my wallet - HV was unusual.

>I am not one of the promoters - just a concerned punter who is
>part of this very small, close-knit scene. At this stage we're
>all keeping quite, hoping it will all die down, but you know
>what the press are like. With headlines like 'Dance Craze That
>Kills'and 'Dancing...Till They Drop' what are we to do? 

Relax. Tomorrow it'll be X-rated videos or bungy jumping. Next week
they'll have forgotten all about it. If anything I expect this will
do raves a service, drive them back underground where they belong. Who
needs squares at raves? That's where they've been heading with all this
mass marketing crap.

>If you have any ideas or would like to know more about what
>has been going on down here, want copies of the 'fanzine'
>Hallelujah (or if you know people who might have been involved
>and want to know if they're okay) contact: 

>Hallelujah 
>c/o - PO Box 651 
>Woollahra 
>NSW 2025 
>Australia.

The main thing is not to jump about supporting raves. Don't give the
bastards something to fight against and they won't fight against
it. Just be cool. Anything you say to defend raves will only get twisted
by the square media and used against you.

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From: jcourte@well.sf.ca.us (John M. Courte)
Subject: Detroit X-mas
Summary: A Rave at the old Music Institute on Broadway
Keywords: X-MAS, Detroit, Hardcore
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:43:44 GMT


If anybody's in Detroit over the XMAS holiday, check out the Tribe XMAS
party at 1515 Broadway in Detroit, MI, USA. There'll be some killer jocks
there, and it's supposed to be underground as all hell. But the turnout
might not be huge during the holiday season. But it will be an intimate
gathering of good vibes in the place where techno started- the absolute core
of the spinning armature of the techno machine, Where Saunderson, May,
Atkins and others got their start.

Peace.

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From: mike@delta1.UUCP (mike king)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Name That Tune & HT Techno?
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:31:45 GMT
Organization: Delta Systems, Inc.

dom@sound.demon.co.uk writes:
> wbogue@cwis.unomaha.edu (Leslie Schriber Bogue) writes:
>> OK. I know this track is really old, but please don't hurt me because
>> of it. All I can remember of it is a sample that goes, "I am a nightmare
>> walkin" and "Pump the beat for this groove" (or "fool" or something.
>
>I pretty sure you are talking about "Nightmare" by Kid Unknown on Warp Records.
>
>:-Dom  (Who can't make out the sample either !)

I think it is "What's the people, this tune?" - just a mixed up phrasing of
"What's this tune, people?" that sounds a hell of a lot better, that's all.
It came out pretty clear on a remix service I get. My $.02.

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From: cep@sage.cc.purdue.edu (CRAIG PFEIFER)
Subject: Re: Dune samples
Summary: EON Spice 
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:14:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.224518.5596@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rquazi@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (Rishad Quazi) writes:
>
>Hey all,
>
>	A couple of questions:
>
>	1. What are the names of the techno mixes that include samples from
>	   the movie 'Dune'? I've heard some very cool tracks centered
>	   around the sample 'The Spice Must Flow'.


      That would be 'Spice' by EON. They're on Vinly Solution (UK). 

    
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From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Shep , and other sheep dogs ...
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:41:02 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


-- 
	Noaksie , 	
		did you really do a project on the great man himself ???? I am
sure that myself , and all other avid net-watchers would appreciate the posting
up of all your findings ....

Just time to put Granny out the room ...... :)

c ya <>
Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: wwc56110@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Digital Overdose)
Subject: Are there CDs available for these?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:56:18 GMT

Are there CDs available for Rhythmatic, In Sync, Program 2, Voodoo
Transmission, or Trashman?

Are there also any FAQ's or discographies available for the above.
I'll appreciate if anyone can e-mail me any information pertaining
to the above artists. 

Thanks in advance for any info.


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From: eric@nit.pactel.com (Eric Pederson)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: FACELESS TECHNO BOLLOCKS
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:20:38 GMT
Organization: Pac*Tel Corporation

s_curtis@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Steve Curtis) writes:

>Greetz,

>Does anyone know if the 'FACELESS TECHNO BOLLOCKS' T-shirts for the Rising
>High label are avail to buy either direct or in any *british* music stores ?

I got a mail-order catalogue in a RH 12" one time, it had the "FTB"
shirt for #12 short sleeve #15 long sleeve.  Anyway, here's the
info:

        Darkman Ltd, 7
        Westbourne
        Grove Mews
        London, W11 2RU
        Phone 071 792 0906

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eric@nit.pactel.com                                        510-210-8890
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Any good Trance comp. recommendations? (don't shoot! don't shoot!)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:01:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.150726.23081@gssec.bt.co.uk>
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg) writes:
 
>        Will everyone stop saying "tribal techno" ,
>        it's doing my bloody head in
>.... :)
 
TRIBAL TECHNO! TRIBAL TECHNO! TRIBAL TECHNO! ...... :-D
 
>        Techno means different things nowadays , and I think you'll find the
>roots of tribal dance music buried deep in house .
 
Depends on what tribal dance music you're talking about.
You know; the stuff that's been around for thousands of years, or the
more recent stuff.
 
>merry christmas , y'bastards ;)
 
Thanks and could someone explain to me how taco PIZZA is considered to be
Mexican food????? Um, I've been to Mexico and Italy (even ate some food
when I was there, though I did avoid the water in Mexico), and there are many
fine Mexican and Italian restaurants nearby, but I'd never claim Taco Pizza
to be either. I do love the stuff, tho. And I wouldn't trade those days
I spent in the '80s driving down to the 8-mile Taco Bell, picking up a
Pizzazz Pizza from the Drive thru, eating & driving while listening to
Mojo play May, Atkins, Beltram, etc..
 
And speaking of real dub. (BTW "dub" is an audio engineer's term)
Isn't the Real(tm) Dub House music the stuff on Pere Ubu's late '70s
release of "Dub Housing" ???? Just a thought.
 
Well, I guess I'm sorta rambling here.
 
Yep, I'm a rambling guy.
 
--Eric
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  "It's that constant beat; that 'boom, boom, boom!'
Detroit, Michigan  USA         I get hyped, I get into it, and when the
                                     breaks come . . . I scream!" :)
 
"You wear a hat....then people die."
 
TRIBAL TECHNO! ;-)
From: st1pk@rosie.uh.edu (DISCO BISCUIT)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Classical + Rave
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:07 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <1992Dec14.113614.10166@gssec.bt.co.uk>, squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg) writes...
> 
>Woah , 
>	nobodys mentioned the Blue Danube off the original 3-am eternal 12" , it
>was utter brilliance ,as the tune was all phasored and stuff , with the
>obligatory horse neighing sounds , and sheep an' stuff .....
> 
>	Utter briliance .....
> 
	I have the 88' version of that in a dayglow pink sleeve and 
    What time is love (pure trance) in neon green sleeve (1988) .

	Are these hard to come by?

-=dan=-
>-- 
> 
> 
>Stephen Quigg
>squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
>British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
>(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
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From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: XDZebra Review #19
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:32:46 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


-- 

While reviewing some Trance compilation , Pete Ashdown writes :
>Herbal Infusion
>havanna 
>etc..
> "a smoother than smooth collection of progressive house

	What do you mean smooth ? 

>Virtually all the tracks are calm

	I'll keep flaming reviews until they present a more acurate picture to
the person reading it ...

The review wasn't a hasty effort ,and looked reosanable , but it ignores some
startling facts :

	BONG !  Herbal Infuzion - The Hunter is a classic fast tribal dub song ,
with lowwwww bass and frantic percussion , it could IN NO WAY be described as
calm (although judging by the American's raving about Moby Dick's 1000000bpm ,
then maybe a hurrican is calm to them ....)

	BONG !  Havanna Schtoom , while not exactly frighteningly fast (good!) ,
still keeps up there with tha' big ones , and again , is as calm as one of that
lad from Dundee's postings (YOU KNOW THE ONE I MEAN).


	I accept disagreement can prevail , but maybe it's down to the fact that
Americans and europeans seem to have different perspectives on dance music ,and
this music may indeed seem calm to your average papa oui , so hey ! Lighten up!

see ya!   
Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
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From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: FSoL, MBM news (was Re: Prefab Sprout VS FSOL and Re: Orbital vs Opus 3)
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:40:51 GMT

In article <12DEC199217335441@vms1.iscs.nus.sg> nuscss1@vms1.iscs.nus.sg (Vax BULLET-IN-Board SysOps) writes:
>
>Following UB40 VS 808 State , here comes Prefab Sprout VS FSOL
>Whatever is happening here ?

guru sez:
	marketing men, most likely (sigh).

	BTW, FSoL have a new EP out (this week in the UK, I think), but they're
	using the alias "Metropolis".

	Apparently there'll be three mixes of "Metropolis" and another track
	called "Hyporeel", on their own Earthbeat Records label.
 
	FSoL have a new album due out in the New Year, which they're currently
	stuck in a litle room recording.

	Oh, and MBM's "Mindstream" is out soon, sporting lots of mixes.	

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From: spent@milton.u.washington.edu (Spencer mullen)
Subject: Re: Real Dub -vs- Ambiant/trance
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:48:04 GMT


	Personally I consider Black Uhuru's "the Dub Factor" to be a
landmark album.  Recently out on compact disc! Definately worth getting.
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.music.newage,alt.music.alternative
From: dave@vela.csis.dit.csiro.au (David Campbell)
Subject: Ambient music like "Deep Forest"
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:00:31 GMT

I recently picked up a CD by Deep Forest which contains an "Ambient Mix" of
their track "Sweet Lullaby".

Can somebody who has heard this track direct me toward similar ambient-sounding artists?
It is very difficult to find this sort of music; it doesn't really get
any radio play around here and I haven't managed to find anything close
to it under the "New Age/Ambience" section in a number of music stores.
I have heard all of the below and none of them seem terribly similar:
	- the Orb.
	- Ultramarine.
	- Saint Ettienne.
	- Ken Davis.
	- Artificial Intelligence.
	- Software.
	- Enya.

Thanks,
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From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: 2 UNLIMITED AND RELATIVE INTERESTS
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:38:02 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.

In article <724073487.23262@minster.york.ac.uk>, malcolm@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
|> 
|>  mcsdc1ap@dct.ac.uk writes:
|> > I THINK 2 UNLIMITED ARE FAB ! THERE MUST SURELY BE MANY PEOPLE WHO AGREE THEY
|> > ARE BETTER TO LISTEN TO IN YOUR HOUSE OR AT THE LOCAL DISCO THAN MOST OF THE
|> > LOUD STUFF THAT IS TOO FAST TO DANCE TOO AND CAN MAKE YOU DIZZY AND
|> > NAUSEOUS.BACK TO THE 2 UNLIMITED ONCE MORE BACK TO THE 2 UNLIMITED MILD CORE.
|> 
|>  David Leeson writes:
|> > I hope you're not being serious .............
|> 
|>  Jeremy Riley writes:
|> >I second the motion ... he MUST be joking.
|> 
|>  Malcolm writes:
|> I'll wager this is a classic case of "terminal left logged on while
|> user was out of the room".   :-)

-- 
That Dave Leeson bloke , he's me , that was ......

I think he meant it alright , just to get the desired net tempreture up ! 
And hey , it's worked !

Although unfortunately I know some people like that :(


Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dhoffman@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Hoffman)
Subject: serious beats CDs
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:55:20 GMT

Anybody have any opinions about the Serious Beats series of CD compilations?
I just picked up a used copy of Vol. 4.  It's a double CD with 40 songs (!).
Obviously the mixes are short, but it has a pretty interesting assortment of
stuff on it - Fierce Ruling Diva, Digital Orgasm, Code Red, 2 Fabiola, J'n'J,
F.U.S.E., Speedy J, Transformer 2 and many others.  Are any of the others
worth buying?  Or should I start buying CD singles?

Feedback would be appreciated - whether posted or mailed.

Dave
Hoffman

"Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom."

BTW - anybody have the correct track listings for TWITCH CD #1??
From: mlsbc2sjw@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Shamen: In Gorbachev We Trust?
Date: 11 Dec 92 11:05:10 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology


> 
> In Gorbachev we trust is an average album, but there's a couple of good tracks
> and a couple of complete crap ones. Progen marked a change in style for the
> Shamen. Boss Drum, the new album, is the best yet in my opinion.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Nick
> 
> -- 
> 


In Gorbachev We Trust is, IMHO, the best Shamen album.  The original Progen was
better than Progen '91, Hyper-real (sp?) was better than Progen and Make It
Mine was better than Hyper-real.  The album is EnTact BTW.

Boss Drum, although good in bits.  I think the remixes on the 12"'s of Boss
Drum and Phorever People are _much_ better than the originals.  

EnTact was a change in style but not as much as Boss Drum is a change in
direction.  Boss Drum could have been brilliant, but it's not.  I think it's
pretty average, but if you think it's brilliant who am I to judge?  



See Ya,


	Steve-E
From: jdisegi@bu.edu (Jonathan Disegi)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Electribe 101
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:04:49 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

In 1990, Electribe 101 released a brilliant album, and I haven't heard about
them since.  What ever happened to this group?  Have they released anything
since? Are they still together? and did the '101' refer to an SH-101?

Thanks,

Jonathan Disegi
Boston University
(jdisegi@bu.acs.edu)
 
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From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Any good Trance comp. recommendations? (don't shoot! don't shoot!)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:38:53 GMT

>>Pizza they're trying to sell now (IMHO).
>                                   ^^^^ - I've been trying to figure out since
>                                          September what this means! Context
>                                          is no help!!!
>|   Craig Pfeifer, Purdue U.  |  And who loves you."  - The Smiths

IMHO means In My Humble Opinion.  It's makes you somewhat flame-proof.

Mike
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From: map@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Classical + Rave
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:03:16 GMT
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
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In article <Bz9CCq.1GF@cs.bham.ac.uk>, rjg@cs.bham.ac.uk (Robin J Green) writes:
|> 
|> 	I agree wholeheartedly with Mr Cowell(?). I always thought
|> that Mark Moore from S-Express working with the Process Music genius..
|> err, thingy, wassisname. Wrote Powaqquatsi and Qoiaanisqatsi.

philip glass. koyaanisqatsi and powaqatsi (i think). i highly recommend
koyaanisqatsi. it will blow you away. and, yes, i think many of you ravers
will love it - you'll just trance out. its very rhythmic/repetitive/hypnotic.
even better, the album is the soundtrack to a movie. SEE IT IF YOU CAN. but don't
rent it. it's an image-and-music thing and i think the effect would be lost on a
small screen. it's just ~ 90 minutes of images of nature and then of humankind,
much of it sped up or slowed down. it's entirely hypnotic and amazing.

as for powaqatsi, it's also a movie, but i haven't seen it. the soundtrack has
some reminiscences of koyaanisqatsi but does not have that trance effect. it 
brings in a lot of non-western musical ideas though - arabian, asian, etc.
it's pretty good, though i wouldn't think that ravers would like it qua ravers
(i.e. you might like it, but it's not really related to your raverness).

i haven't really heard anything else of glass's, though i must buy more at some
point. anyone have an idea what i might like? i.e. what is in the same kind of
style as koyaanisqatsi?

mike


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From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Universe.
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:25:51 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <1992Dec15.120021.1@geovax.ed.ac.uk> msc9315@geovax.ed.ac.uk writes:
>In article <Bz9GCo.20s@cs.bham.ac.uk>, rjg@cs.bham.ac.uk (Robin J Green) writes:
>> 
>> P.S. What's the wierdest experience you've ever had at a rave? Mine
>> was some girl drifting through the crowd came up to me, flung her arms
>> around me and said she loves me, that she'd love me forever and that
>> she wanted my children. She danced with me for a while and left after
>> giving me a hug. Nice girl. Wierd tho...
>
>  The Orb Manchester Hallowe'en extraganza, when I ended up dancing with
>  some large pink herbivore (rabbit, I think).
>  That was well unanthropomorphic.
>                                           (--)
>  that's my eight oktas worth,           (------)
>                                           (----)
>  J.                                     


Mine, hmmmmmm
7:00 a.m. on a foggy frozen morning on a junction of the M4 outside Bath sat
in the mellow out tent and all is peacful with people huddled for warmth.
When in comes a guy dressed in a policemans costume, shouts:

"ARE YOU FFUUUCCCKKKKKIINN HAPPY!!!?????"

To which the reply was enormous.
Then it all died down again.

*sigh* bring back perception raves and kill obsession raves.

My friend

U4ia