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From: ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET (Leonard Watkins)
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Subject: Re: discussions on all forms of music?
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:00:08 GMT
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On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:35:33 PDT Mike Masuda said:
>Let's get into some of the more deeper things for a change.
>I'm tired of reading "I hate so-and-so" and "I like so-and-so".
>No wonder people are leaving this net.
I couldn't agree more,

>Does anyone out there have opinions on microphone choices for recording?

Shure 58's & 57's seem to be the standard, resonable price and reliable

>Do you prefer live recordings of certain bands to studio recordings? Why?

Depend on the band The Allman Bros, Little Feat, The Ford Bros..etc, because
all of those mentioned seem to be able to play an extended tune and not repeat
theirselves over and over and the energy comes across better than studio
>What's the latest in sampling technology?

I wish they'd outlaw it

>What kind of speakers and amps do you use to listen to music?
Kenwood,Heathkit,Ultralinear,Magnavox

>If you had the run of a radio station, what would be your playlist?
excellent question...mine would be blues oriented with jazz/gospel/country
everything would have a blueish feel, i'd play pretty much everthing except
Metal and Syrupy country

>What kind of music did you listen to as a young child?

Blues,rock.country

>If you had a dream studio, what equipment would you have in it if you
>  were given only 50,000 dollars (or equivalent amount in your vicinity)
>  to spend?  Why would you choose these things?

requires too much thought

>What is the "sound" YOU are looking for in music today?
I look for the 'pure' sound kinda raw. i don't even own an effects box/pedal
I play through Fender Tube Amps Champ,Princeton,Bassman and let them overdrive
themselves
>Sorry for all the questions, I'm just bored and frustrated...
>Maybe there should be a separate net for musicians.
I know where you're coming from i would enjoy a group such as that
I really enjoyed your questions even though i'm not up on tech and couldn't
respond to some.......L.W.
From: TSLGILMORE@CC.WEBER.EDU (Lisa J. Gilmore)
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Subject: Re: classical training,improv,heart
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:07:00 GMT
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I have been a classical pianist, but have always enjoyed listening to
jazz and blues.  My musical theory is something that I consider "weak".
I really want to start learning jazz piano, but don't know where to start.
Any suggestions?

Also, I want to start teaching piano lessons.  Should I just go with the
standard of teaching notes, scales, simple songs etc?  Does anyone have
any suggestions they would care to offer?

		Thanks a bunch in advance.            Lisa Gilmore
				tslgilmore@cc.weber.edu
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:20:19 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Classical Music Poll - part I

I protest!  I demand a recount!  This vote has been stolen by the
neo-revanchist 19th century liberal-bourgeois romanticist clique!  I must
warn you, comrades, that the Early Music People's Liberation Front will not
take this lying down!  An end to lickspittle musical sturm und drang!

The preceding was an unpaid political-musical announcement by the EMPLF.
Remember, that's EMPLF for uplift.  We now return you to your program, which
if you are reading this, is already in progress.
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:54:39 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Blues - Put up or Shut up
              16 Oct 1992 13:24:56 GMT from <ujwb@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU>

On Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:24:56 GMT Jeff Beer said:
>All I can say, if you are lucky to be near an NPR affiliate that carries
>BLUES BEFORE SUNRISE, try to tune in.  It would be on saturday, between
every saturday i also hear Bluestage with Ruth Brown excellent shows.
It's live out of Chicago

>It never ceases to amaze me at how vast the genre of blues is.  So many
>players, the well known ones like Bessie Smith, and the obscure ones,
>who didn't have much fame.
The money,fame and credit they never got just irritates me badly, in a way
they set the tone for the music we're hearing now and get very little
credit for it, except for people like us, and because of us the blues will
never die..............L.W.
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:58:38 EDT
From:         musical bridges <ST102397@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: improvisation vs. interpret

You completely missed the most important part of performing music, the
aspect which could be improvised or worked out but by far the most important
in expressing feeling or emotion,
     Volume. Intensity. Piano, Forte, Fortissimo....
                  Mick
>Posted on 12 Oct 1992 at 13:09:03 by Mike Masuda
>
>Re: improvisation vs. interpret
>
>Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:38:22 PDT
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>From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
>
>On Improvisation:
>
>%improvisation           what is being         style of music
>after composition        improvised
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 0%                                            nothing
>10%                      tempo                 classical, renaissance
>20%                      tempo, sections       top 40 (without solos)
>30%                      solos                 top 40 (with solos)
>40%                      notes                 folk
>50%                      length                R & B
>60%                      more notes            bebop
>70%                      more notes            jazz fusion, indian ragas
>80%                      more notes            free form acoustic jazz
>90%                      pitch, timbre         electronic jazz
>100%                                           pink noise
>
>any comments?
>
>Mike Masuda
From: ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET (Tim Johnson)
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Subject: Classical Music Poll - part II
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:31:28 GMT
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A list of the few works which got more than one mention.

In order by composer:

  Bach             Brandenburg Concertos
                   Golberg Variations (a majority of those responding
                                       specified "with harpsichord')
  Beethoven        Grosse Fugue
                   Symphony 9
                   Moonlight Sonata

  Brahms           Symphony 1

  Mahler           Symphony 9

  Mozart           Symphony 40
                   Symphony 41

  Rimsky-Korsakoff Scheherezade

  Smetana          The Moldau (from Ma Vlast)

  Stravinsky       The Firebird
                   Rites of Spring

  Vivaldi          the inevitable Four Seasons



                           -Tim
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:58:38 CDT
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DebUT ABLUMS
              8 Oct 1992 11:56:33 -0400 from <jkh2001@ANDY.BGSU.EDU>

Scanning through my CD collection list, I came up with a few artists. For
a few of these I'm not really sure of the title, or just how classic the
actual debut is, or occasionally even whether it's the actual debut. I also
had a very tough time putting any jazz artists on the list, since by the first
album recorded under a jazz player's own name is usually not really a debut -
there've usually been many albums as a sideman. With those caveats, forthwith:

Rock 'n Roll
------------
Big Country - In a Big Country
Black Crowes
Black Sabbath
Blue Oyster Cult
Elvis Costello
Dire Straits - Dire Straits
Godfathers - Birth, School, Work, Death (?)
Guns 'n Roses - Appetite for Destruction (Say what you will about GnR/Axl,
                this was a killer debut)
Jimi Hendrix
Eric Johnson - Tones (and STILL waiting for a 3rd album!)
Led Zeppelin
Living Color - Vivid
Lone Justice (Hey, how come nobody named Maria McKee as a fave vocalist?)
Tom Petty
Police
Pretenders
REM
Smithereens

Jazz/Blues/Guitar Instrumentals
-------------------------------
Michael Lee Firkins - eponymous
Stanley Jordan - Magic Touch
Joe Satriani - Not of This Earth
Chris Thomas - Cry of the Prophets (a local (Baton Rouge) guy, great but under
               publicized young bluesman taking blues in a modern direction)
Stevie Ray Vaughan - Texas Flood (may still be his best)
Mark Whitfield - The Marksman (became a local guy

Paul Heroy
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:40:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Van Morrison's first album

>From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
>> o Van Morrison - Astral Weeks

>    He had one before this. Forget the title, but it had "Brown-Eyed Girl"
>    on it. He'd also made a few albums as lead singer for Them.

The album was entitled _Blowin' Your Mind_ and came out on Bang Records.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Fred Frith movie is screening at Harvard tonight

>
>_Step Across the Border_, a quasi-documentary film about guitarist Fred Frith,
>will be shown for what I believe is the first time anywhere on the East Coast
>outside of New York City at Harvard's Carpenter Center. There will be five
>screenings: tonight, tomorrow, Sunday, Tuesday, and Wednesday nights.
>

I believe they showed this on German television last year (if it's in black
and white that is). I only caught some of it but it was quite interesting. It's
also been released on video in the UK.

Seb
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Subject: Teaching Piano to beginners
Date: 17 Oct 92 02:43:00 GMT
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This topic came up recently - was it Lee who needed advice in this area?
Well, I'm completely stymied by this one, and I've thought about it quite
often in the past few years. People periodically ask me if I'd teach them
to play piano - some play another instrument and I usually flippantly
say 'sure, and you teach me guitar'. The trouble is I know what I would
want to learn about playing guitar, at least at its basics. But if the
person I'm to teach doesn't already know how chords are formed, or how
scales work, I'm perplexed.

I mean - do I try to repeat my tedious years of study, only throw in some
more relevant songs - like simple versions of rock classics? Or do I try
to teach them through an ear approach, and if so how?

I really don't know the answer to this, and I'm primarily speaking about
teaching adults - because they're more impatient to sound like something
they know. But do you spend all that time on theory ? I don't know how
people actually construct phrases and songs on the piano without knowing
what chords they're playing. Or if they know the chord names how do they
do the rest.

Coming from the old school, but only using it to branch off now, I'd
really like advice on this subject too.

BTW - apropos I think to this topic: I Know For A Fact that I couldn't
sight read the songs I create in improv mode. Mostly the rhythms would take
me years to slow down and pick apart, and by then I'd be sick of the thing.
So how do I teach someone to play as I play ????

        ... waiting for help/philosophy,     ...walt
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Tonight Show
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:32:16 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92101509594962@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET (Paul Heroy) writes:
>Let me throw out a couple of questions - one simple, one maybe irrelevant
>from a cynical point of view. Who actually makes the musical choices? Isn't
>it Branford? I can't imagine it actually being Leno - in fact, I think I've
>read that Branford has been given near complete control over music. The other

If you are talking about the artists that are guests, 
given that Leno doesn't even get to have complete say over his producer,
there is no way that this is the case. It is too big a deal for the
record companies and tv executives relinquish control over.
It is obvious that Branford has some input for particualar
artists, like Joe Henderson, who I can't ever see being on Carson,
Arsenio, or Letterhead.

As for what Branford plays with his band, I would say this is so.

Carson did have jazz or classical artists on, but they tended to be from
a handful of his favorites, and not much beyond.

It has been a long time since I have seen any jazz on Letterman, other
than Sanborn and Metheny, who are obviously favorites of Paul.
Of course, I don't watch Letterman that much, but I do check the
listings.

And no jazz musician would touch Arsenio if they had to play with Arsenio's
band.

>question is - have any of you talked to someone who's seen some good jazz or
>other non-pop style music on Leno and been 'converted'? In other words, is
>the message Branford's trying to send getting out? CAN the message be received
>by the American public? (As someone once cracked, "Nobody ever went broke by
>understimating the American public")

The trouble is, you can't do much more than take the instrument out of
your case in the 3 minutes you get.  Even less, if you are just sitting
in, like Geri Allen was a few weeks ago.  The little bits that I hear
from Branfords band are often sparkling.  

As for the "message" being received by the public, I remember
overhearing someone in the checkout line at Tower, someone was telling a
friend he was being something by a Marsailis.  "Which one", "Wynton",
"Oh, that is ok, Branford is too wild".

Jeff
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:47:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      NIN

Got the new Nine Inch Nails album, _broken_.  It has its moments, but it
isn't much different from what you would expect.  A bit less dancier then
the last album (well, maybe alot less dancier).  Pretty good, but not
great.

ANYWY, why is there one big CD with 30 minutes of music and one mini-CD
with about 10 minutes of music.  Pretty damn annoying.  Why not put it
all on one album.  There aren't even any song titles or anything for the
little guy.  Was this thing thrown in as an afterthought?  Does it have
something to do with the Reznor/TVT legal thing?  What gives?

later days and sunny rays,
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:29:54 CDT
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>

On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:34:54 PDT Mike Masuda said:
>On the subject of King Crimson,
>
>I think their last three albums
>Discipline
>Beat
>Three of a Perfect Pair
>are killer albums.

Yes! BTW, I see that these, like many of the older KC stuff have been redone
by Fripp himself. I bought all of these years ago (well, except for Discipline,
which I didn't find until early last year) - has anyone heard the remastered
versions and the original CD's both? Do the new versions sound better? I have
the remastered version of Lark's Tongues in Aspic, and it sounds better in
many ways than the above three, even though it's 10 years older.

Paul Heroy
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Date: 15 Oct 92 02:33:00 GMT
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>>This really seemed a preperation for selling out.
>
>A few months ago, I would have disagreed with you guys, but not now.
>Metallica now has 5 (!!) videos from the _Metallica_ album. This from a band

So putting out lots of videos = selling out?  I'll have to disagree with
this.  If it was at all economically feasable for me to produce visual
interpretations of my music, I would jump at the chance.  In fact, I've
done it at quite a loss.  Is that selling out?

Now, If they have changed their music to get MTV airplay, then that might
be selling out.

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Date: 15 Oct 92 17:52:20 GMT
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  Here in Europe the Allman Bros. CDs were rereleased about 3 months ago
as digitally remastered and at almost half their normal price!

Paul Hosken
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Subject:      Tangerine Dream Live

I'm off to North Carolina in a few minutes so this'll be quick. I saw
Tangerine Dream live last night at the Berkeley Performing Arts Center in
Boston. I was'nt too enthusiastic about seeing them as their last few
tours were supposed to be quite dull and lifeless. Well, I was pleasantly
surprised. Edgar & Jerome Froese are joined by new members Zlatko Perica
(guitar) and Linda Spa (Keys, Flute, & Sax, with a HEAVY GMAW factor in
effect). It seems that they have gotten over the boring generic new age
shit that they were doing in the mid to late 80's. There were two sets
at about an hour long each and two encores. They worked in several of the
songs off of the new _Rockoon_ album into each set, flowing from one piece
into the next with no breaks in continuity. The only older piece I recognized
was a bit from the Risky Business soundtrack. All of the other music was new.
Zlatko Perica is an excellent guitarist with a hell of a lot of patience.
He spent most of the time sitting on a stool tapping his foot along to the
music while he awaited his parts. Linda Spa spent most of the time on
keyboards and sax. She wasn't very impressive on flute. Edgar and Jerome
each took one shot on guitar.

Most of the music was driving like Graffitti Street and Rockoon of the new
album. I took a friend who had never heard them before. When we went to
the lobby for intermission he just turned to me and said "Wow!"

The second encore will blow your sox off. It's something you wouldn't be
expecting from TD.

Oh well, I'll be gone untill next Wednesday, so keep the peace...

-Adam
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He's a rapper, although he more sings than raps. His stuff is pretty cool, not
the run of the mill house rap stuff, more guitar oriented...
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:35:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Epic deput albums

Gads, this could go on forever.  But, here's the first five I think of
that HAVEN'T been mentioned.

Jane's Addiction        _Jane's Addiction_
Nine Inch Nails         _Pretty Hate Machine_
U2                      _Boy_
Enigma                  _XMCVII_ ... something like that.  Whatever year it
                           was released in roman numerals.
The Orb                 _Adventures from the Ultraworld_

All of these stand out because their debuts were unlike anything I had ever
heard.  Pretty cool all around.

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Subject:      EARNED INCOME

          If someone wants thier music to appeal to all types of
          listners, they are often labeled a SELLOUT. I don't think
          you can condem anyone who wants to be liked by a great
          variety of people and make a large sum of money while doing
          it.

          ko
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:23:20 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      A Moment of Silence

Tis a sad day in Motown. . .

Yesterday I went home during my lunch hour (I live about 7 min. away from
work) and noticed that the streets near my home were clogged with people,
police cars, funeral cars and stretch limousines.  I thought "This couldn't
be for Eddie Kendricks, he just passed. . ." Found out today that the service
was for Geraldine "Gerri" Burston,Smokey Robinson's sister.  She, too, died
of lung cancer.  She was 69.  The Detroit Free Press reported the following
Motown deaths: Earl Van Dyke died on Sept. 18 of prostate cancer at Harper
Hospital here in Detroit.  He was an "anchor for the studio for years,
keyboard ace, band leader and mentor to Stevie Wonder."  July 26, Mary Welles
died of larynx cancer at the age of 49.  Monday, Kendricks and Burston last
week. (sigh)

It's quiet today in Detroit,
Michelle
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