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Subject: sandman
From: pickett@kenyon.edu
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:13:54 -0500
Reply-To: pickett@vax001.edu
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics
Organization: Kenyon College
Summary: sandman

THERE ARE ONLY 17 MORE MONTHS OF SANDMAN!!!!
WHAT"S THIS WORLD COMING TO???
IT'S THE BEST
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Dale Keown, and leaving The Incredible Hulk
Date: 7 Sep 92 03:36:18 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>> Oh, by the way, ever hear the story about how Todd McFarlane got Dale
>Keown
>> fired from Marvel?
>
>
>No.  Could you please share the story (or rumor)?


(this is through my shop owner, who is pretty reliable)

Supposedly, Dale Keown was going to leave Marvel after issue #400 to go to
Image Comics (cough cough).  Todd McFarlane was touting this move at a show
(otherwise known as opening his infinitely large mouth), where Marvel got wind
of it.  They were rather pissed off and decided to give Dale his walking
papers at issue #398 or #399 and move a new artist in.

I don't feel sorry for Dale, if this story is true, because his head seems to
be getting a tad large as of late.  No one at Image gets any respect from me.
If you saw McFarlane on QVC Shopping Network, you'd know how I feel.

PAD, can you confirm or deny this?

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From: ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: hey, it's WALT simonson doing superman!
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:14:44 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>to no avail.  does anyone know anything about this?  does anyone like it?
>
>remember: that's WALT, not LOUISE.
>dpm

First let me say I love Walt Simonson's work (especially his Thor's)

    However, his work of late has been less than awe inspiring.  His Robocop
    vs. Terminator collaboration with Miller has been dissapointing.  I'm not
sure whose fault that comic is, but it totally didn't do a thing for me.  FOr
2 of my favorite creators, that's a surprising let down.

    As for the Superman Special;  I bought and read it.  The story seemed flat
and so was the art.  Walt seems to be a very choppy and unflowing artist these
days.  Those Thor days were just so damn dynamic, flowing and alive!

    Oh well, I hope Robo vs. T gets better and if not  maybe his next project
    will be.

    
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From: v124jw4y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIAN SUPER-HEROES
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep15.212504.866@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes...
>NOOOOO, it was fine.  I had the LNH Roster, the Black superheros, and the jewish
>superheroes,  and then someone had to start up with a new list.  Ok, what we
>got so far:\
> 
>1)  Tasmanian Devil (Global Guardians --DC)
>2)  Gateway  (X-Men --Marvel)
>3)  Talisman  (MArvel)


Since when is Talisman Australian?  Are we talking about the Alpha Flight member
here?  If so, I'm pretty sure she's American Indian...

P.S: If we're going to include villains, what about Boomerang and Kangaroo, also
of Marvel fame? :)
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From: elbel@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Elbel)
Subject: TRADE 1st Batman episodes for Monday's
Summary: trade cartoons
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:17:04 GMT
Keywords: BATMAN CARTOON

 HI!.  I have Saturday's and Sunday's episodes of the Batman cartoon
on tape.  Monday's episode was preempted here due to the Cardinal
baseball game.

Would anyone like to swap tapes?  
I have two good VCR's.  If you send me a tape with Monday's
episode (Mr. Freeze), I could copy it for me, and put
the other two on your tape for you and return it.

anyonte interested?

Jeff
elbel@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
From: lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: sandman
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:40:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Little Squids of the Poor

In article <1992Sep13.211354.97@kenyon.edu> pickett@vax001.edu writes:
>THERE ARE ONLY 17 MORE MONTHS OF SANDMAN!!!!
>WHAT"S THIS WORLD COMING TO???
>IT'S THE BEST

First, stop yelling. Quite impolite. No need for panic.

Now calm down. The latest endpoint is about issue #70. So there are
an additional 11 issues/months. See nothing to worry about.

Once the Sandman book ends there is still the potential for Endless miniseries.
(Pun not intentional, but now that I look at it, it is kinda funny.) Plus
Dave McKean has been muttering about doing Dream related material. Don't
forget at least three of the remaining 28 or so months have already been
scheduled to be double-Endless months with the Death miniseries. If you
really want to stretch it out you could stockpile those to keep you going
after the book is over.

So you see there's plenty of time. By the time Sandman is all done, 
Miracleman #26 might even be out...
--
     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
 "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: LNH - Canada strikes back!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:33:37 GMT

     As the reality wave wiped the surface of Canada cleaner than a 
psychopath's conscience, a bustle of activity was taking place in the 
underground headquarters of the secret organization Andrea.  Unbeknownst to 
most people, Andrea was a vast Canadian organization devoted to maintaining 
world peace, and this event was a real setback to its agenda.
     "Get the P.U.N.D.I.T. Squad ready and warm up the transdimensional 
teleporters!" shouted Lance Mannion, the head of Andrea (not his real name, of 
course, but a clever pseudonym).  "I want a full strike force ready to take 
down this Crossover Queen person!"
     [obligatory editor's sidebar:  P.U.N.D.I.T. stands for Peacekeeping 
Undercover Net Defense and Intervention Tactical]
     Suddenly, a skinny yet still foreboding figure strode onto the scene...it 
was Kevin Fitzpatrick!  "Alright, you clowns, I own the copyright you're coming
*dangerously* close to infringing, and I want you outta here before I call my 
lawyers!"
     Chastened, the agents of Andrea slunk off, doomed to never enter the 
fight.
               *              *              *              *
     Meanwhile, on alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo, Sig Lad (having recovered from the 
Cerebus threads hurled at him) saw a possible out.  He hid in an article about 
to be cleaned off the net and archived.  Hopefully, he'd be able to dig his way
out of the archive before Sig-File Man was killed (similarly named characters 
love to team up and confuse the fans).
               *              *              *              *
     Meanwhile, Acton Lord was sitting nervously by his mailbox, wondering what
Ultimate Ninja had included with the SASE...Ninja Bush Seeds, perhaps?
               *              *              *              *
     Meanwhile, Paul the Samurai #2 was making all of this look rather mundane 
and normal.
     Dave Van Domelen, still working on his Superhero Tarot Deck
From: JVI100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: SUPERMAN -- He's Dead. Wrapped In Plastic.
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:36:34 GMT
 <1992Sep9.041328.18458@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> <1992Sep9.153254.22268@news.nd.edu>
Organization: Penn State University


Superman is dead and wrapped in plastic?  Don't tell me David Lynch is
involved with this.  If he is, then we'll be subjected to two more years of
dancing Dwarfs, tall aliens, involvement of the F.B.I., and supernatural
characters named BOB in allof the books. And when it is all over, nothing will
be explained, there'll be a hundred unanswered questions, and sometime later
he'll put out an unexplainable  annual that'll just raise more questions.

         NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NOT.....
                       AGAIN........!!!!.

Jimothy
From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Superman Cancelled? (was Re: Superman dead?!!)
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:23:48 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:

> Okay. we all know by now that Superman is going to die in November.
> 
> But, the big question is: are any of the four titles going to be
> cancelled?!
> -- 
> The world is not analog. The world is digital,
> with an incredible number of bits.
> Arthur C. Adams (not the comic-book artist)                        <fnord>
> E-Mail acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil

No. The big question is will Lois, thinking him dead, reveal his ID (i 
mean she will have to explain what happened to Clark). Of course it would 
be fun to see his reaction after his "resurection"
"YOU REVEALED WHAT!!!!!!"
"Guess he'll now have to kiss 6 billion people :)

Dascoser
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: AUSTRALIAN SUPER-HEROES
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:25:04 GMT

NOOOOO, it was fine.  I had the LNH Roster, the Black superheros, and the jewish
superheroes,  and then someone had to start up with a new list.  Ok, what we
got so far:\

1)  Tasmanian Devil (Global Guardians --DC)
2)  Gateway  (X-Men --Marvel)
3)  Talisman  (MArvel)
4)  Captain Boomerang (Suicide Squad --DC)
5)  Pre-teen Dirty Gene Kung-fu Kangaroos (bw glut of the 80's)
6)  Pyro (while with Freedom Force --Marvel)

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From: branwen@cerebus.ccc.amdahl.com (Karen Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Query: Sandman character on Cerebus?
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:58:31 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1685C14501.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:

>    In the Comic Buyer's Guide a few weeks ago, Neil Gaiman wrote that
>Dave Sim had borrowed a Sandman character.  
>     Can anyone post or e-mail the name of the character (in both books)
>and the issue reference?  (From Gaiman's description, it sounds like
>Death, but I don't see an obvious match in Cerebus.)

Didn't you know? Jaka is the woman who recently jilted Dream....

--
                                          Karen Williams
                                          branwen@cerebus.ras.amdahl.com
"Don't whine. Warrior women speak in a husky whisper."
  -- Brat Pack #3
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: LNH: Return of Lurking Girl (Welcome Back All!!)
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:27:28 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

> "What?  R.a.c.Earth is going to be destroyed, and replaced by R.a.c.misc.earth?
> The things you miss by going home for the summer!"

	You'll find that's not all that has changed!!!

> Reading further, Lurking Girl receives a nastier surprise--who is Lurking Lass?
> How could the Legion admit such a blatant rip-off?  And after she nearly killed
	You obviously haven't heard yet, but in the frenzy to recompose the
continuity of the Legion, Continuity Champ (then Known also as Captain 
Continuity) disclosed some mischevious spirits that had caused havok to the
system...  One was named Dyslexia.  Lurking Lass is simply a result of her
warping someone's memory/reading ability, and they have reported Luring lass
instead of lurking girl.  The new officialler roster described Lurking
girl/lass on the same line I believe because they are one and the same.

> Brushing off her incredibly-revealing-but-still-within-the-comics-code ethereal
> gray costume, Lurking Girl prepares to stalk off in search of the LNH, when a 
> final entry on the terminal catches her eye.  
> "What's this?  The LNH has a group of its own?  I'll seek them there!"
	This still hasn't been officially established.  I don't know if it
will be, but The new and old heroes are to stay here at least until the 
30th at the last moment when the earth is vaporized.  (that last moment 
move is always good for sales!  You Know the "Barely dodge the impending
doom syndrome" ???)
	      						wReam...
						    Ultimate Ninja!
P.S.  Welcome Back all you old LNHers!  The battle has been fierce in your
abscence and many have fallen in the massacre of the uprising Image Forces!
Join in the Battle to keep the forces of Louise Simonson at bay!  BTW,
Many New Characters have joined in the Summer break!  Look for them!!!
One in particular issues this welcome!!  

:) <--- The Ultimate Disclaimer!!!
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Batman: Neil Gaiman (Marshall Rogers)
Date: 11 Sep 92 04:17:27 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <92254.091811U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>, U16244@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>I don't know if this little daydream would come about, but there is one
>particular creative team I'd like to have for a story-arc on the Batman, just
>for old times sake.
>Artist and Ink Team would be my personal favorite- Marshall Rogers and
>Terry Austin (one of the best teams in the world, Rogers is even better than
>Neil Adams).
>Writer would be Dennis O'Neil (get back in there Denny!)

I agree with you that Rogers and Austin were possibly the greatest monthly
creative team ever to touch Batman.  HOWEVER, Marshall Rogers isn't half the
artist he used to be.  If you don't believe me, look at the latest issue of
_Spider-Man_.  Uggh.


Denny O'Neil???  How about him for 'The Most Overrated Batman Scripter'

(although I did like Sword of Azrael)...

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|  'You should be with us, feeling like we do  -Perry Farrell |             |
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|  'You never had the answers!'                -Ministry      | Productions |
|  'We could have changed the world.'          -B. Wayne      |    1992     |
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (An Elmo of Their Own)
Subject: Re: hey, it's WALT simonson doing superman!
Organization: Fay Vincent's Baseball Substitute
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:27:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <BuE7uL.9q6@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus) writes:
> Yah, it's a one-shot.  Simonson basically rewrote the story of the sand-
> creature from Quarrm which appeared in Superman in the late '70s (?).  It's

	'72, I think, though tyg et al. may correct me.  Really classic
"breaking-the-chains" cover from Neal Adams.  Written by one of the "New
Generation" authors--Bates, Wolfman, Wein, Conway, I think.
-- 
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."                        
--Janis Joplin, "Me & Bobby MeGee"                                             
  
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From: sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate)
Subject: Re: Superman dead?!!!!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 02:33:44 GMT

jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:

>In article <mumble> das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) writes:

>>I just heard on the radio this morning that DC Comics is going to kill
>>Superman off in November.  Pleaasssseeee say it isn't so!  I've already
>>lost enough childhood heroes!

>Well, I just saw a story on this on the evening news, and they said
>that DC was "hinting" that they'd find a way to bring him back...

>...'maybe more powerful than before.' (Paraphrased)

>That worries me more than anything else.

DC, in general, does not use the revolving door of life nearly as much as 
Marvel, but in this case, I would not mind it as much if they used it, 
provided the death is handled appropriately.

A good example of what I'm talking about is the Star Trek movies.  When Spock
died at the end of STII, I thought it was a brilliantly done scene.  It was
a fine way to end the life of a major character, even though you KNEW he would
be coming back somehow.  You knew he was going to be resurrected, and that
the whole funeral scene, etc. was, in practical terms, for nothing, but 
somehow, it didn't diminish the impact.  Spock's death stands out as one of
the high marks in the Star Trek series.  

If DC does Superman's death and the subsequent issues of rememberance, etc.,
in a dramatic and meaningful way, his resurrection will not bother me so
much.  What Marvel did wrong in the resurrection of Jean Grey was to destroy
a dramatically appropriate death with an elaborate retcon many years later,
after too much was based on the fact that she was dead.  

On a somewhat related subject, has anyone noticed that, in the year since
Armageddon 2001, and almost as long since Captain Atom returned to this time,
that he has not re-entered the issues?  What are they saving him for?



>-- 
>Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)
>jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)
>"I'd be apathetic if I cared."

-- 
Sanjiv Sarwate			| "I git weary and sick of tryin'
sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu	|  I'm tired of livin' and scared of dyin'
SANJIV@UIUCVMD.BITNET		|  But Ol'Man River,
                      		|  He just keeps rolling along..."
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: LNH/LNV/BoENV continued....
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:10:19 GMT

All he remembered was a bright flash of light happening right after his 
Ultimate Sig.  Sig Lad found himself sitting at a computer terminal next to the
shadowy figure he recognized as Netlurker, who was also somewhat stunned.  
Looking out the window, they found the building surrounded by the dreaded 
Buckeye Fans!  Typing quickly, the two reentered Earth VR to try and see who 
won.
     Meanwhile, Acton Lord, resplendent in his grey tights and blue surcoat 
with grey trim and red half-cape, surveyed the blasted wasteland that was all 
that remained of Earth VR after the Cosmic Plot Device had wiped all of the 
assorted Net.Heroes and .Villains off the face of the net, if only temporarily.
His autodialer system had allowed him to get back on almost instantly, claiming
the BotSpot and the great power it possessed.  The BotSpot was reputed to be 
even more powerful than IT, if he could only find a way to safely use it (not 
IT).  Acton Lord donned his crimson goggles against the fierce glare of the 
unremitting net.sun and began to look through the dust for traces of Sig Lad.
     Sig Lad reappeared at posting 60087 and began to work his way to the 
present, absently noting that Netlurker had lurked off somewhere else.  
Meanwhile, the rest of the LNH/LNV/BoENV had been exiled to Net Prime, where 
none of them had powers, save perhaps, the mysterious and ripped-off-from-What 
The?! Doctor Deranged....
     Dave Van Domelen, here's another sig, not quite as big but still pretty 
damn impressive:
          CHECKERS SPEECH, by Michael K. Anderson, used w/permission

Nemesis Fiend - Look at the checker.  A perfect circle, a world in its own, yet
at the same time with depth.  There are black checkers and white checkers, just
as there are good people and bad people.  A checker is the embodiment of all 
that we are, of all that we were, of all that we aspire to be.  It has a choice
of two paths...both moving forward, but neither moving in the same direction.  
So are we faced with decisions, decisions we are unable to go back on.  Richard
Nixon had a dog named checkers also.
Spy Guy - But the king is two circles, together they are infinite.  Two worlds,
two entities, with twice the depth.  Yet these two entities are irrevocably 
linked into one.  Again, it can be good or evil, black or white, but it has 
greater mobility, greater knowledge, greater choices...greater power.  King me!
NF - *I* am that king, Spy Guy!  I am the one who makes the decisions.  *I* am 
the one with the greater knowledge, the superman amid a field of mere mortals.
Two entities, two worlds, *one mind* with the best of both worlds!  True, could
be either good or evil, but in my mind, your evil is good and in your mind my 
good is evil and evil is not good and good is not evil.  And that is good.  
Don't you think so?
SG - What was the question?
From: shishka@coos.dartmouth.edu (Rich Yeung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Supergirl question
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:36:41 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

well i don't follow the Super people storylines, but how is Supergirl alive?
i just remember her kickin' the bucket back in Crisis. can someone debrief
me on this?
thanks,
-r.



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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (An Elmo of Their Own)
Subject: Re: No, no LNHetc installment yet....(hey! Ellipses!)
Organization: Fay Vincent's Baseball Substitute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:28:13 GMT
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In article <1992Sep10.021730.26252@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>      Oh, BTW, if you didn't get onto the net until after the vote was cast, and
> you disagree with the ghettoization of the xbooks (incl. Excalibur), then 
> you're pretty much Sh*t Outta Luck unless you're willing to suffer the combined
> flames of Conty and elmo and a hoary host of others.

	Where `flame' is defined as an e-mail note reading approximately:

This topic more properly belongs in rac.xbooks.  In the future, please keep
discussions of Marvel mutant books in that forum.

	which is, of course, just a variation on the same note used to respond
to 4sale posts in rac.misc.
	Now, people who crosspost to both .misc and .market or .misc and
.xbooks might actually get flamed in the classic sense.  People who merely talk
about the wrong thing in the wrong place get politely redirected.  At least by
me, and Conty's enough of a net.gentleman that I think it's safe to say he
isn't going to go flame-wild over a misdirected post.
-- 
"It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women 
to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy     
capitalism, and become lesbians."--Pat Robertson, on the ERA                   
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)