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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Princess Bride ... AGAIN!
From: rcbi110@marshall.wvnet.edu
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:15:54 -0500
Organization: Marshall University

>>pirate Roberts", he seems really aloof and condescending
>>towards the princess.  That doesn't seem romantic at

> Misinformation is a powerful motivator.  He believed that she no
> longer loved him, and thus was quite irate.  I can understand that...

I thought he was acting like that on purpose just to give her a hard time.

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From: eagle@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Date of Valentine's Day (was gift suggestions needed!!)
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:31:43 GMT
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh

For all those in Long-Distance relationships, just remember that
Valentine's day this year is on a SATURDAY!  Amtrack, here I come!

Daniel
--
Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu / Junior, NCSU CSC Dept / eagle@catt.ncsu.edu
"It will not be easy.  It will require sacrifice."--President Bill
Clinton in his inaugural speech, 20 January 1993.  Translation: "we're
getting ready to tax the hell out of you."
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From: llk4k@Virginia.EDU ("Lori Karalow")
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:23:21 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

ac999273@umbc.edu  writes:
> In article <1993Jan26.223107.24207@Virginia.EDU> llk4k@Virginia.EDU ("Lori Karalow") writes:
> >Strong enough to get up, get me a beer, hand me the remote and
> >make the bed in the morning!
> 
> 	Oooh!  I would love to do such chores for you... and any other chores
> or whims that may cross your lovely mind!
> 
> 
> --
> 
I am pretty demanding when it comes to chores.  I run a tight
ship!  Up for the challenge?
From: elnsys@muhpm1.enet.dec.com (Gravity Storm account)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: younger & more experienced man
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:23:35 GMT
Reply-To: elnsys@muhpm1.enet.dec.com (Gravity Storm account)
Organization: Govt. of Margaritaville, boat drinks dept.

Hum,
	Don't know about 6 years. But it appears between 9 and 10
years age difference does cause some sort of problem from my
past experience. In getting to know a woman recently, she was 10 years
younger then  I, I found no problems when communicating over the
network with her and even when talking with her. It appears though
that she had some problems with the age  as she has recently 
been rather cool about taking the relationship any further. 

I think age plays a  bigger role when one is in their 20's ,as this
is when a lot of major changes take place in ones  personailty. 
Just think at this point the younger of the two people may not even
be out of university and the older of the two may well  be into their
chosen  career. The older person will probally have sown most of their
wild seeds also, while the younger still has the desire to plant a few more 
gardens  ).

But on the other hand, this type of age difference can be good because 
their is a lot the older person can teach the younger person. The older
person usally has much more time for romance also as he has a lot of
the getting started in a career stuff out of the way. The older person
probally would be a much more patient lover and listener as he 
has learned (hopefully) from past relationships what being a thoughtful
partner is about.

The younger person would be good for the older in that they would 
bring a much more youthful way of looking at life back to the older one.
They could do this in such ways as new music, food, friends etc..
I  can also attest to that the younger person helps the older one to
re-look at everything in his life again and start his mind thinking about
things that have long been dormant.

So the best advice I can give to you is listen to half the advice from 
you heart and half from your head, then make your choice. But always
remember once you make your choice never look back because yesterday is
over you shoulder and the best you can do is make tomorrow  great.

Well that's just one "Old Man's" point of view.



-Joe Merchant


 
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@nuge101.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Nice guys... (was Re: Any cure for the "Just wanna be friends" Blues?)
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:34:13 GMT

agrawal@lipari.usc.edu (Amitabh Agrawal) writes:


>"Cars are a lot like men... Some you like to date and some you like to
>marry"!!

>So, go figure... :-)

  I think this is a confusing point---

  If some women'd like to marry nice guys, but won't date them, what do they
do---look in a Mail Order Grooms book? :&)

  Or, go to a Man Auction.  I can imagine it now...

  "And here is a lovely Nice Guy.  Very intelligent, supportive and honest.
Looks Ok, has no serious illnesses or diseases.  Where shall we start the
bidding?"   :&O


-- 
"Protect endangered species!  Contribute to the Exxon Supporter's Fund!"
"Pay no attention to that little man behind the keyboard."
"If you want to look for fish, best not to look in desert."
"The greatest beauty in the world is beauty that is private."
From: cs64wag@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Hi, my name is Tyrone and I'm looking for a friend.
Date: 24 Jan 93 09:07:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <C19AKn.A66@newcastle.ac.uk> Tyrone.Betts@newcastle.ac.uk (T.J. Betts) writes:

>Even God has let me down.

Eh, don't worry, He's an irresponsible flake anyhoo.

{ducking the inevitable incoming flames}

Jeremy

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: When is it Miss/Mr. Right
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:33 EST  

In article <C137Dp.3nG@unix.amherst.edu>, llatwood@unix.amherst.edu (Laura Atwood) writes...
> 
>I don't know because I haven't ever been there, but maybe it's more
>a matter of deciding than knowing; i.e. you can know that there are
>probably numerous people out there you have the _potential_ to do
>well with, but you're happy enough with the person and relationship
>you have that any potential with others is irrelevant.  

Uh ... that smacks of `settling', and I don't think a person should settle 
for less than what they want in this arena... it always seems to catch up 
with you eventually. 

(I can't believe I'm quoting England Dan and John Ford Coley, but ...)

"It's sad to belong to someone else when the right one comes along."

>You know
>you want to share the rest of your life with this particular
>person, to continue to develop the relationship you've actually 
>built and to let go of thoughts of mere possibilities and potentials.
>For me (but definitely not for everyone) this involves dating
>different people so I can eventually put these thoughts aside with
>complete confidence, and also waiting until my life has reached a 
>point where I genuinely want to share the rest of it with another 
>person.  
> 
>Again, these are all just theoretical thoughts for me.

I don't mean to negate them, but it don't work for me. 


-- Stephen

{Experimental .sig # 30245/T}

Humans -- 

	Beings stupid enough to create their own monsters, and then 
	curse their luck when they run into them.
From: ce095@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Valentine's Day list --- person revealed
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:28:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce095@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The person collecting the names for the Valentine's Day list is

Donna Pavlik
vvdmtp@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Curious?
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:27:30 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: University of Durham

I find independent women very very interesting.  I am no way intimidated by them (or by
independent or strong willed men), but I myself have a strong personality so that may be
part of the reason.

I had a girlfriend once who was anything but strong willed and self confident...this was
nice for a while as it was different having someone cling to me, but it quickly grew
tiresome and we broke up.  There is obviously some sort of a balance for each individual.

My wife is not terribly independent in practice, but she is in mind.  Life circumstances
and lack of opportunity made it difficult to be independent, but now that she has more of
a chance, she is becoming more so, striking the right balance for herself and her wants
out of her personality.

Scott

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@nuge115.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: younger & more experienced man
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:25:00 GMT

cvaba532@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:

>this is my first contribution to this newsgroup

>i feel that i am in a dilema...i met this guy thru
>a BBS that i phone into..he is the sysop..we talked
>met..etc....he kissed me the other day but it was 
>a fiasco...i am older than him by 6 years...i just 
>turned 26 and he will be turning 20 next month
>when we are talking...age isnt a big deal..but when 
>i think about it....it makes me wonder

  What do you mean 'fiasco'?  That could mean anything.  You'll hafta clear
that up a bit.  But, age only makes a difference if you have vastly different
experiences, outlooks and so on because of it.


  
-- 
"Protect endangered species!  Contribute to the Exxon Supporter's Fund!"
"Pay no attention to that little man behind the keyboard."
"If you want to look for fish, best not to look in desert."
"The greatest beauty in the world is beauty that is private."
From: llk4k@Virginia.EDU ("Lori Karalow")
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Valentines list....
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:31:53 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

No, I don't know her email address but I welcome any
Valentine's Day cards!!!
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: altinbay@netcom.com (John Altinbay)
Subject: Re: _The Battle Hymn of Love_
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:47:39 GMT

In article <93023.180228IO00038@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Anthony J. Albert <IO00038@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>
>     I recently acquired Kathy Mattea's album _Untasted
>Honey_.  On that album is one of the most romantic songs I
>know.

You may want to check out Paul Overstreet's own records.  He's
a guy who has been through his out-with-the-boys-and-get-drunk
days and has emerged as a loving and compassionate individual.
His songs are wonderful and celebrate the best in life.  

-- 
John Altinbay   -   altinbay@netcom.com
===============================================================
There's a spirit that guides me, a light that shines for me
My life is worth the living, I don't need to see the end.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@nuge115.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Any cure for the "Just wanna be friends" Blues?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:21:17 GMT

f_alfan@pavo.concordia.ca (Doom, Herald Of the Apocalypse) writes:

>Sorry to bring a down note into your lives, folks...BUT

>Neil Diamond's music aside, what's a good way to get rid of the "Just
>Wanna Be Friends" (tm) Blues? I just got this line for the 35th time, so
>I'm not eactly a chipper camper anymore. Any suggestions?

  You state you don't come on like a 'horny beast from hell.'  Is it possible
that you don't express any romantic passion of your own, to these women?
In other words, things like some flirting (to let them know you're interested),
and so on.

>A question for you gals out there:

  Well, I'm not a gal, but I'll bite.  :&)

>Being a hopeless romantic at heart (but being rather pessimistic as well) I'd
>like for once to think that at some point, my being a (IMHO) gentleman-like,
>helpful and caring kind of person will get the opposite gender to view me
>as somethying other than a one-man support group and convenience store. Don't
>get me wrong, I like to help, but I dont want my emotions flying away towards
>women who cant see me for what I am. (A git without a life ;) )

  As I said up above---you've gotta be a LITTLE more forward and express with
your romantic intentions.

>Anyways, I apologize for bringing up a subject which has most likely been
>brought up before, so please no flames. I feel bad enough as is.

  I think this is the second most often had thread on a.r.  Anyone put this
into a FAQ?  (First is, of course, "Why won't girls date nice Guys?")

-- 
"Protect endangered species!  Contribute to the Exxon Supporter's Fund!"
"Pay no attention to that little man behind the keyboard."
"If you want to look for fish, best not to look in desert."
"The greatest beauty in the world is beauty that is private."
From: hbw@xanadu.bu.edu (Howard Wellman)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Curious?
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:56:11 GMT
Organization: Boston University


	There are indeed low self-confidence/esteem men out there, as there
are low self-confidence/esteem women.  I could comment on how people get that
way, but I don't think we need much more pop-pysch here.  Personally, I like
independent women, because I'm very independent myself, and my experiences
with some women, is they equated independence with lack of love/committment.
	I don't know if the men you speak are reacting the same, but I can 
perhaps come up with an apology for their behaviour - if such is needed or
wanted.  There are a lot of men who are still caught halfway between the 
generations who can't believe in feminism/women's liberation, and the 
coming generations who won't know anything else.  Transition periods in any
culture creates cultural and individual stress.  Some people adapt, some people
grit their teeth and carry on as best they can, some just don't fit the 
changing times.
	As time passes, I suspect that you'll (or those who follow after you)
find far more men who appreciate independent women.  
	Then again, there'll always be milquetoasts...

H
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@nuge115.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Princess Bride ... AGAIN!
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:22:59 GMT

cs64wag@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner) writes:

>Everybody's been talking about how Princess Bride is
>a really romantic movie, but... in the later sections
>, after Wesley has returned from being the "dread
>pirate Roberts", he seems really aloof and condescending
>towards the princess.  That doesn't seem romantic at
>all!

 That's a good point.  I still think the most romantic movie is Somewhere
in Time.  Either that or Ghost---I liked the Princess Bride but didn't think
it was really romantic---I saw it more as a comedy, and a funny one.

-- 
"Protect endangered species!  Contribute to the Exxon Supporter's Fund!"
"Pay no attention to that little man behind the keyboard."
"If you want to look for fish, best not to look in desert."
"The greatest beauty in the world is beauty that is private."
From: rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: When is it Miss/Mr. Right
Summary: my 2c (gst not included)
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:48:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1k3egtINNqn3@bHARs12c.bnr.co.uk>, dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley) writes...
>In article <1993Jan25.184212.10780@jetsun.weitek.COM> weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver) writes:
>>In article <C1Doox.Hp@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> papresco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
>>I agree that a relationship is a lot of work, and that it should be
>>work you enjoy.
>Will folks please give some concrete examples of this "work" stuff.
>Seriously, I'd like to hear more about the sort of investment committed
>folks are putting into their relationships -- and see just where I sit on
>the range of selfishness or lack thereof.

you call mr. wonderful (who lives 1000 miles and one time zone away in a 
"foreign country") using hundred-year-old-technology (that's the 
telephone, folks) and you talk for close to an hour.  you are FULLY AWARE 
that Saturday mornings are charged at FULL RATES and you are not made of 
money, but you TALK and TALK and KEEP TALKING because his voice just 
enchants you so much, you feel you'd DIE without hearing it -- or the 
static between you and him.

"Who's Michael Jackson?!"
	-- dialogue from "Hearts Afire", CBS-TV, January 18/93

Rosemary Warren		rwarren@topaz.concordia.ca
Montreal's Favorite Jacksonmaniac !!!
From: smithrud@advtech.uswest.com
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Curious?
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:05:02 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies

In article <1993Jan26.134036.8812@csd.uwe.ac.uk> pa_ross@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Mr Rossy) writes:
>>How many men are intimidated by extremely independent women?

This is the kind of question that you just can't give a straightforward
answer to.  You may have encountered some men who have not been
comfortable with your independence, but there are huge numbers of
both types out there -- those who feel intimidated by it and those
who welcome and respect it.

Cari



>>I am very independent, however maintain my femininity, but
>>I keep meeting men with low self-confidence/esteem who have
>>a problem with my independence and very direct, open approach
>>to everything in life.  When I do have a SO, I give 100% to the
>>relationship while maintaining my independence.
From: rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: _The Battle Hymn of Love_
Summary: another gorgeous bit of music.
Keywords: Jackson, music
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:54:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan25.004739.1956@netcom.com>, altinbay@netcom.com (John Altinbay) writes...
>In article <93023.180228IO00038@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Anthony J. Albert <IO00038@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>>
>>     I recently acquired Kathy Mattea's album _Untasted
>>Honey_.  On that album is one of the most romantic songs I
>>know.

another singer who always seems to have the right romantic words is 
Jermaine Jackson.  well he's had 13 albums to get the message right!
i would vote for _Precious Moments_ (1984) as his best album overall.

"Who's Michael Jackson?!"
	-- dialogue from "Hearts Afire", CBS-TV, January 18/93

Rosemary Warren		rwarren@topaz.concordia.ca
Montreal's Favorite Jacksonmaniac !!!
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: smithrud@advtech.uswest.com ()
Subject: Re: Advice please!!
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:55:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.210627.10562@ac.dal.ca> rtousi@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Hi
>   Is it right to try and steal a girl from a boyfriend who is making her
>life miserable by his neglect, even though she still loves him. But she openly
>admitts he's making her life Hell.

You will only steal her if she _wants_ to be stolen.  I don't know
too many people who have been stolen against their will (abductions
for ranson don't count).  ;)

My point: If she doesn't want you pursuing her, she will probably
tell you.  If she isn't telling you to leave her alone, but is still
claiming to love her boyfriend, she might not be sure of _what_ she
wants.

Cari
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: When is it Miss/Mr. Right
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:32:13 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.199.202.54

In article <1993Jan25.184212.10780@jetsun.weitek.COM> weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver) writes:
>In article <C1Doox.Hp@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> papresco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
>>
[Mucho deleted]
>>
>>The important thing keep in mind when starting a relationship, is that
>>it takes work; hard work, but if you really love the person, the work
>>should be (mostly) enjoyable, not dreadful.  
>>
>I agree that a relationship is a lot of work, and that it should be
>work you enjoy. 

Will folks please give some concrete examples of this "work" stuff.
Seriously, I'd like to hear more about the sort of investment committed
folks are putting into their relationships -- and see just where I sit on
the range of selfishness or lack thereof.

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From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Princess Bride ... AGAIN!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:24:55 GMT

cs64wag@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner) writes:

>Everybody's been talking about how Princess Bride is
>a really romantic movie, but... in the later sections
>, after Wesley has returned from being the "dread
>pirate Roberts", he seems really aloof and condescending
>towards the princess.  That doesn't seem romantic at
>all!

True.  He even threatens to hit her.  This, to me, was not terribly romantic.
Although, I suppose one could argue that he was angry with her for not
believing that true love could even transcend death.  Anyway, I thought that
he was awfully pompous.  However, it's still a pretty good movie and there are
some very funny and touching parts.

I just saw "1492" this weekend and it's got all these Spaniards in it and
I just kept thinking throughout the entire film, "My name is Indigo Montoya.
You killed my father.  Prepare to die."

sharon 
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu

Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:42:09 -0500 
From: Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ***Top-notch romantic movies?***
	<93025.215328IO20939@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>

<IO20939@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
****everything deleted coz it doesn't pertain to discussion*********
> -------
> Stolen Kisses Are Always Sweetest.
>
> Heather Wiersma
> IO20939@MAINE.MAINE.EDU

Folks, keep your lips lock and stow away them limber tongues. There is
a KisserThief on rampage in ARCLand...

RickI, the RoadRunner
I'll give you a kiss as long as you 
promise not to steal the essential elements...
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