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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: A question about bears...
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 00:18:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.213709.22355@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
ehr@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Ernest H. Robl) writes:
>Just a quick note on the discussion on bears.  Eugene Miya, who's been
>involved in this thread is the unofficial (Official?) keeper of the
>FAQ list in rec.backcountry -- where bears are often discussed.  Just
>thought those of you who do not read the latter group might want to
>know and evaluate his comments in that context.

Exposed!  You had to tell them!  Tsk tsk.  Even Watson was letting me get away
with it.  8^)  I wanted to see how long I could get away with it.
Oh well here's the ref:

%A Stephen Herrero
%T Bear Attacks - Their Causes and Avoidance
%I Lyons & Burford
%C NY
%D 1985
%X The Table of Contents:
1) Grizzly Bear Attacks
2) Sudden Encounters with Grizzlies
3) Provoked Attacks
4) The Dangers of Garbage and Habituation
5) Other Attacks
6) Aggression without Injury
7) The Tolerant Black Bear
8) The Predaceous Black Bear
9) Avoiding Encounters
10) Characteristics of Bears
11) The Evolution of Bears
12) Bear Foods and Location
13) Signs of Bear Activity
14) Learning and Instinct
15) Aggression and Submission
16) Bears and People in Rural and Remote Areas
17) Bear Management

And one should not discount the work of the Craigheads.

VOUS etes au pays des ours

        Les ours sont des animaux sauvages qui ont droit a votre respect. ...

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Acting Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			Imhof, Cartographic Relief Presentation
			Books on or by Benjamin Whorf
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From: george@tessi.com (George Mitchell)
Subject: Re: John Collum
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:20:14 GMT

sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne) writes:
>BTW, does anybody know who Mr. Collum played in 1776?  My roommate thinks
>it was the custodian (McNair, RUM!), but I say he was too young at the
>time.

John Cullum played the representative from South Carolina, whose
name escapes me at the moment, both in the movie and on Broadway
in the original cast of the show.  The script referred to his
being the youngest representative, "except for Benjamin Franklin."

And I still love listening to his voice.
-- George Mitchell (george@tessi.com)
From: ladc@cogfog.cognet.ucla.edu (Laura Da Costa)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: N-EXP knocked on 90210
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:12:13 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Sep28.152808.4188@ultb.isc.rit.edu> pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>         It's funny to hear that NX was mentioned in 90210, because it also
>    was mentioned in Melrose Place.  (I didn't watch it, a friend told me
>    about it, yeah, that's the ticket  :)  When the rebellous male
>    character was talking with the woman who lives with the guy about their
>    past he mentioned that he lived in Alaska doing odd jobs and such (I
>    think he even mentioned working on the pipeline).  He said something to
>    the effect that Alaska is very different than what is portrayed on NX. 
>    It sounded very much like a slam to me.  (But then again I am terribly
>    biased towards NX, and terribly biased against the bubble-gum shows Fox
>    has on.)
>
>Paul G. Ackerman III    |   Internet addresses:    |"Life is just a candle,  
>Rochester Institute of  |pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu| and the dream must give 
>   Technology           |          -or-            | it flame."             
>Rochester, New York, USA|pga0625@ultb.isc.rit.edu  |               - N. Peart

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but NX was also mentioned on
Designing Women.  Mary Jo said something to the effect that there was nothing
better than sitting back and watching NX (there was more to it than that).


Laura Da Costa
Psychology Department--Cognitive
University of California, Los Angeles
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From: velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener)
Subject: Re: The opener
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:19:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.080813@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov> z8tah@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov  writes:
>
>> Joel should get an award next year for the single greatest line he's
>> had to date:  Maggie.  I'm gonna unzip your pants and pull them down.
>> Now don't go getting yourself all excited.
>
>Interesting but I thought he said ..." I'll try not to get excited." 
>
>What did other people hear?

"Try not to get turned on."

Michelle

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From: pjd@hpespjd.fc.hp.com (Paul Dorweiler)
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:13:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Fort Collins, CO

In article <1992Oct2.165732.2176@cs.ucla.edu>, salomone@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (John ($al) Salomone) writes:
|> ->->Is it just me, or was the premier this evening's musical score VERY loud?
|> 
|> I listened to the season opener in Dolby Surround Sound and noticed that the
|> episode sounded alot _better_ than normal.  The background stuff was a lot
|> more realistic.  I assumed that they started making an effort to Dolby encode
|> the show for the added enjoyment of those with surround systems.  Normally
|> this doesn't reduce the quality of the audio for non-surround systems but 
|> I could understand how the background stuff could possibly get in the way.

I listened to all of last season in surround, and although I will agree that
it seemed like more was coming out of my rear speakers than previously, the
music was still LOUD -- louder than all of last season.

--
Paul Dorweiler
Hewlett-Packard Company
Fort Collins, CO
email: pjd@hpespjd.fc.hp.com
From: sham@cs.arizona.edu (Shamim Zvonko Mohamed)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: NX Premiere "Northwest Passages"
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:23:11 GMT
Reply-To: shamim@cs.arizona.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

In article <Eenjc3u00Vo9Erk2JK@andrew.cmu.edu> Jason Lee Smith <js06+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>By the way, while we're on the topic of minorities. Who else thinks
>Maurice is gay, but trying to deny it?

Here's a quote that might prove illuminating:

  "Maurice Minnifield has never had an impure thought about another man in his
life!  Well, there was one unsettling dream where I was wrestling with David
Niven, but I swear!  Nothing happened!"

-s
-- 
  Shamim Mohamed / {uunet,noao,cmcl2..}!arizona!shamim / shamim@cs.arizona.edu

  "Take this cross and garlic; here's a Mezuzah if he's Jewish; a page of the
    Koran if he's a Muslim; and if he's a Zen Buddhist, you're on your own."
 Member of the League for Programming Freedom - write to league@prep.ai.mit.edu
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From: anske@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Where is the Town of Cicely in Alaska?
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:07:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.193913.6349@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson) writes:
> But is it near Springfield?
> 
> 
> --
> Bruce Watson  wats@nyx.cs.du.edu  Toy Cows, Toy Cows in Africa, Toy Cows


What? No Alaskans in this discussion?


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From: drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu (Douglas J Renze)
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:30:01 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson) writes:

>>The volume was terrible! The scene in the Brick, where Shelley talks to 
>>Maggie about turning thirty, was awful! I almost couldn't hear the 
>>dialog over the music.

>I heard it just fine in San Diego.  If it was loud, I didn't notice.
>-- 
>Darin Johnson
>djohnson@ucsd.edu
>    Strange things are afoot at the circle-K...

My complaint is that the sound quality was inconsistent...I was constantly
having to adjust the volume to compensate for character voices fading...I
surmise it was the result of them not being tracked very well with the mikes,
because they would fade in and out as they moved toward and away from various
fixed points (mainly in the Brick).

Peace,

Doug

-- 
| Douglas J Renze            | "Jerry [Brown] is the equivalent of a          |
| drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu     |  drive-by shooting."                           |
| drenze@chop.isca.uiowa.edu |                                                |
| drenze@aol.com             |         * NPR's Morning Edition, 13 July 1992  |


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From: lsmith@femto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: A question about bears...
Organization: Little Northern Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:47:25 GMT

Of course, Maggie has connections in the bear community.

Beers and bears. What is this newsgroup coming too? B{)
--
     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
 "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
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From: louise@cc.gatech.edu (Louise Penberthy)
Subject: (none)
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:04:06 GMT

> In article <1992Sep16.040217.952@cc.umontreal.ca>,
> In Monday's episode, "Cicely", Chris's incarnation as the bad guy's 
> henchman counts to three by listing the three elements of the
> Hegelian dialectic.  Who else on TV has the courage to even *Mention*
> the Hegelian dialectic? 
> 
> -- Joshua

So what?  Listing the three elements of the Hegelian dialectic
counts for anything?  Yes, it was _mentioned_, but it didn't mean
anything.

-- Louise Penberthy


Louise Penberthy                |  "A student came to me with a desire to know
College of Computing/ Georgia   |   the time, and I told her how to make a 
Tech/ Atlanta, GA 30332         |   watch."
louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu     |        -- Chris, NEXP:Northwest Passages
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Season Premiere
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:33:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.140050.25946@news.acns.nwu.edu> velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener) writes:
>
>And someone asked who Steve was (among the men in Maggie's life).  Maggie
>looked perplexed and asked him herself, and he said they had dated once (but I
>don't remember what the date was) in high school or something, and she asked,
>"Did we... uh..." and he said, "Uh-huh."  So it was some sort of one-nighter,
>maybe.  Correct me if I'm wrong...

You're right.

Didn't Chris sleep with Maggie in the episode where he lost his voice?
It's been a long time since I've sen that one, though.
--
"I was trying to figure out which of my friends were hedgehogs, and which
were foxes...."
"Shakespeare wrote _King Lear_, NOT _King Leo_...."
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From: ttw@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (thomas.t.wetmore..iv)
Subject: More Pedantics
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:51:57 GMT

I hate writing these pedantic notes, but then again, since I write
them, I guess I don't.

The Arctic Circle is the latitude, which at sea level, has one 24 hour
period of sunlight (some purists might disagree, but as a first
approximation it's okay).  You can, in fact, have 24 hours of sunlight south
of the arctic circle, because of being at an elevation above sea
level.  For example, many people who live in Fairbanks, Alaska, drive
out the Steese Highway to a place called Eagle Summit where there is
about 72 hours of continuous sunlight around the solstice.  Eagle
Summit is SOUTH of the Arctic Circle.

You really can't take Cicely very literally; if you do you will get
very frustrated.  By the extent of midnight sun, it is fairly
obviously north of the Arctic Circle, but by the vegetation it is clearly
somewhere south of the Alaskan range, and all such places are far south
of the Arctic Circle.  Cicely is just an allegory; you will never find
such a place.

Another inaccuracy.  Even when the period of midnight sun is over,
there are still MONTHS until it really gets dark.  At the end of the
show, when Chris was giving his final radio blurb, it was DARK.  This
is impossible.  So don't take it too seriously.  Most of the Alaska
stuff is just camp.  For example the bird stuff, the Snow Bunting and
the Hoary Redpoll.  Good camp.  They are both good Alaskan birds, but
neither breeds in the habitat where they were "observed."  I have it
on good authority, from friends who still live there, that Alaskans
howl their way through every show.  Any true Alaskans care to
comment?

There was one thing Chris said in his goodnight lines that really
took me back.  It was the line about using your headlights.  Every
year that I lived in the far north, sometime in August or September it
would finally get dark enough that you'd want to put your headlights
on.  Since the last time you had turned them off was probably back
around late April, you had to search all over the dashboard to FIND
the right switch!

Can't wait til next Monday night.

Tom Wetmore
From: dslee@netcom.com (Donna S. Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Maurice/Tulsa???
Keywords: ummm
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:36:14 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile) writes:

>Season opener was fun, but as an ex-Tennesseean, I must ask this question:
>Isn't Maurice supposed to be from Knoxville, TN, NOT Tulsa, OK as indicated
>last night in one of the scenes at the Brick in which M is torturing 
>everybody with his memoirs?  Or is it just that Barry Corbin is (in real
>life) from Knoxville?  God, I hope that I'm wrong, that we aren't going to
>start seeing such gross continuity problems.

No, I think it's Chris that is from Tennesee.
-- 
 Donna S. Lee // EC Technology // dslee@netcom.com
From: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Murphy Brown v. Dan Quayle
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:27:08 GMT
Reply-To: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.tv.northern-exp, cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) writes:
>In article <1992Sep22.214625.25729@news.acns.nwu.edu>, velour@casbah.acns.nwu.e
>du (Michelle Wiener) writes:
>>
>> Hey... is there a Murphy newsgroup?  There should be!!!
>>
>
>I don't think so, but there's alt.fan.dan-quayle which might as well be,
>recently :-)

what the bloody hell does this have to do with northern exposure.

i believe this quayle-brown crap is way out of hand and does not even
belong here.

nuff' said

-steve
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From: ttw@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (thomas.t.wetmore..iv)
Subject: Re: Canoe last night
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:33:48 GMT

I have the same canoe shown in the show.  Cost me about $750 brand
new.  Don't think I'd buy it from that dealer that you other fellow
used to work for.  Looked to me like they tried to scruff up the
bottom a bit, but the insides were brand new.  I question why they
would choose an eastern canoe for a western show.

Tom Wetmore, canoe enthusiast
From: chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (John C. Chu)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: John Collum
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:28:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct1.134433.1@elwing.fnal.gov> lauri@elwing.fnal.gov (Laurelin of Middle Earth) writes:
>Some time back, on the NPR radio program _Fresh_Air_, I heard an interview
>with John Cullum.

I've heard this interview twice. On the second time, I tried my best
to pay close attention, just in case I would ever have to repeat what happened.

>  He mentioned that at one point there was an episode where
>Chris and/or Maurice were playing various show tunes on KBHR, and one of the
>albums/songs that was playing in the background was John Cullum singing a
>show tune (it may have been "On a Clear Day You Can See Forever", but I'm
>not sure).

Not quite. He was referring to the episode where Chris got laryngitis
and Maurice drove everyone crazy by playing only show tunes on KBHR.
Maurice has a scene where he mentions the favorite show tune of each
astronaut. Originally, Maurice's own favorite was to be "On a Clear
Day You Can See Forever". John mentioned that if they played it, the
audience would hear him singing and that particular bit got cut. (He
never came right out and said that that was the reason why though.)
Of course, the other astronauts made it into the final version.

					john
				chu@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: donna@bae.bellcore.com (Donna Feliciano)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Janine Turner
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:28:30 GMT
Organization: Bellcore

In article <1992Oct2.041033.7692@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Grabowski) writes:
|> 
|> In our local newspaper TV Guide a fan recently wrote in and asked about 
|> Janine Turner and nowhere in their bio of her did they mention General
|> Hospital.
|> 
|> 
|> John

I'm not sure I would take that as meaning that she didn't do it.
Michelle Pfeiffer was in Grease 2, and you don't often see that
included in interviews!!  Sometimes they only mention the things 
they deem relevant (and maybe not embarassing??).

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From: spok+@cs.cmu.edu (John Ockerbloom)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: What was that line again?
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:03:54 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

So does anyone reading this group have closed-caption decoding, and
maybe a VCR which can record it?  That would be one easy way to settle
the 'what'd he say' debates in future episodes.  They seem to have
generated a lot of posts for this first one.

John Ockerbloom
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Beer
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:18:49 GMT

On the subject of beer in the show--I wonder if Olympia beer has been shown.
It's brewed in Washington (obviously).

Just curious--years ago (from 1973-77, so I'm too young to remember alot of it)
my family and I lived in Tacoma, and that's when my dad discovered Olympia
beer--it was also available in California during the time we lved there--
the problem was that when we moved to San Antonio in 1981 he couldn't find it
here, until only a few years ago.
At least the NEXP producers don't show the same beer that everyone else shows
in their respective films or TV shows--usually it's only Coors or Budwieser.
Simon
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From: ishizaki@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Audrey Ishizaki)
Subject: Re: John Collum
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:09:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA

I thought I caught John Collum in a episode of Quantum Leap; I noticed him
while channel flipping.  His character was in a musical (as Don Quixote in
Man of la Mancha?) and he stepped aside to let the protagonist (Sam, as an
understudy?) sing the role.  Collum (as his credits indicate, has a wonderful
voice).  His voice also lacked the gentle twang it has in NExp.  It also
looked like Janine Turner was in this episode, but I just caught a glimpse
of a dark-haired woman who resembled Turner hugging Collum.  Didn't catch
the credits, so I can't confirm either of these sightings.

audrey ishizaki
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From: rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen)
Subject: Picket Fences on CBS.      
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:31:55 GMT
Re: KBHR origin


Hi, wanted to ask for opinions on Picket Fences, a show on CBS Fridays at 10, 
EST.  Great show, it has alot of the quirkiness of Northern Exposure, and Twin
peaks, and is VERY intelligently written.  Heck, USA Today likes it!, aND YOU
KNOW.....iF USA TODAY LIKES IT, IT'S GOTTA BE GOOD!  ;)
F
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 10:09:12 -0400 
From: Jason Lee Smith <js06+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: KBHR T-Shirts

I was in a cutesy little stationary store last week and I saw a great shirt.

It said "Listen to KBHR. Chris in the Morning." and it had a big picture
of Chris. I really liked this shirt.


		Jason

"You bluffed me. I don't like people bluffing me. It disturbs my sense
of reality."
	-The Kid, From "Northern Exposure"
From: mueller@phakt.usc.edu (Stephen Mueller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Janine interview
Date: 29 Sep 1992 15:51:24 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

On Monday nights, Channel 2 News in LA has info about NX
at the end of the news to keep NX watchers sitting in front of
the TV. And of course, I fell for it.

This week, they showed an interview with Janine in Rome.
She was filming the Stallone movie at the time.
She didn't know what would happen this season, but she did
say that she'd like more to happen between Joel and herself.

- Stephen

By the way, she didn't seem brain dead as in the Chevy commercial.
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Beer
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:13:59 GMT


Well, actually, we left Washington in 1977, so things must have really changed.
I've even thought of moving back there one day--I like Texas, I wa born here,
but although I've lived here 11 years, I NEVER got used to the climate here.
Living in Seattle would be great for me, climatically speaking.


Simon