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Subject: panneloctomy
From: Tom.Martens@f3.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Martens)
Date: 24 Aug 92 13:22:32 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:107/3 - Net 107 EchoMail Di, Old Bridge NJ

Can anyone please tell me more of the panelectomy as two doctors have 
suggested it and I need to find out more it is the fat removal from my 
stomach......What are he major dangers, how long is it to recover ec. etc.    
thanks   tom



 

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From: mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline)
Subject: Chinese Herb for Malaria
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 13:43:51 EDT


News flash from today's Wall Street Journal, that indispensible
wellspring of medical & scientific information (p B4): 

RHONE-POULENCE RORER, the Franco-American Pharmaceutical concern, has
announced that it is developing a new antimalarial agent expected to
reach the market in 1993.  The drug is to be marketed under the name
Paluther; it is a semisynthetic derivative of an alkaloid of Qing Hao,
an herb used for 2000 years in traditional chinese medicine.  The drug
is apparently derived from a chemical family with the picaresque name
"artemisins;"  the drug may be very useful since resitance to older
remedies (quinine and chloroquine) is becoming widespread. 

Another good example of an herbal remedy being empirically tested,
and (perhaps) becoming part of the armamentarium of the "scientific
establishment."  Despite the enthusiasm with which news of this kind
might be greeted on fidonet, this does not mean that all 2000 year old
chinese herbal remedies are effective :)


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From: daryl@bovill.auspex.com (Daryl Starr)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Chronic Vaginitis in 5 year old?
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:35:46 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems

Well, I'm not a professional and I don't have an opinion but,
I heard Dr. Edell (sp?) mention a study with the finding
that women who consumed yogurt, with live cultures, had
significant reductions in yeast infections.

Daryl
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: MICROWAVE HAZARDS and radar guns.
Keywords: microwaves, radiation, leakage, interlocks
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:26:37 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

terry@thisbe.npd.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) writes:


>	Then it would seem to me that you are saying the heating properties of an
>X or Ku band radar gun (there are very few, if any, S band guns in use in most
>states today) would be "FAR higher"/10000.What is the magnitude of "FAR higher"
>...enough to notice in ones lap?  Yes, I discounted the S band, which *are* in
>"the range of" 2.45 GHz, since there aren't many left.

Let's put this in perspective, shall we?  A police radar generates from
50 to 100 milliwatts of power.  Pistols tend toward the low end while
last generation fixed/moving tend toward the high end.

Unless the cop has cajones the size of washtubs, they're not going to
intercept the entire beam. At that frequency, the RF has essentially
no penetration.  Anyone who thinks 50 mw or so is going to heat a 
blood-rich area like the scrotum, well, I have some swampland....

John

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From: srivastava@idicl1.idi.battelle.org
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Earplugs
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:33:27 GMT
Organization: IDI-Dublin
Nntp-Posting-User: raudabaugh

Hello netters,

A few months ago there was a thread on earplugs. Since I am in need of
some good ones myself now, could those of you who use them mail me your 
recommendations on which brand(s) you think is good.

(They are going to be used to keep out sound, not water).

Thanks.
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Anupam Srivastava
srivastava@idicl1.idi.battelle.org
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: help me find article on fluoxetine
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:47:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Aug29.164709.29465
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Aug29.155521.28195@news.iastate.edu> tnfx1@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>I was wondering if 
>anyone could find this article at their library, would they please type it in 
>and either post or email me a copy.  
>
>The article is:
>
>Repeated observations of yawning, and orgasm associated with fluoxetine
>administration.  Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacology; Feb. Vol 9(1)
>pages 63-65

Get real.

However, there IS a way to get references copied for you.
If you use "Paper Chase", you can request a photocopy of
an article you found in your search for $10 per article.

The easiest way for any arbitrary person to access Paper Chase is to
get an account on Compuserve, and "go pch".  You can get a Compuserve
starter kit at most Radio Shacks and software stores.  Compuserve itself
can be accessed thru the Internet via a X.25 gateway at hermes.merit.edu
(if you don't want to call them using a modem.)  Just telnet to
hermes.merit.edu and type "COMPUSERVE" to the "Which host?" prompt.

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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu (Gary Davis)
Subject: Foreskin question answered
Keywords: fore
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:39:26 GMT

  The foreskin is a bilayered piece of tissue which if not excised covers

the head(glans) of the penis. The length frequently extends beyond the
urinary meatus,but rarely extends considerably beyond.

The inner layer has the characteristics of a mucus membarane.
It is the most undervalued and excised body part in American medical
practice.

The foreskin normally is continuous with the tissues of the glans penis
at birth and only gradually becomes separated. By puberty almost all
males can easily retract the foreskin beyond the sulcus or back of the
glans penis.

The current recommendation is to not force the foreskin back in an infant
since this can lead to scaring. In older males,past puberty, some may
experience constrictions of the foreskin with inability to completely
retract it beyond the sulcus. Usually slow streaching of the skin will
eventually allow full retraction. However,medical intervention which
streaches the skin and frees any remaining adhesions with the glans
may be needed. It is important to note only in exceptional cases will
a full blown circumcision be needed.



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                     Gary E. Davis WQ1F (On AO13)
        University of Vermont  Land Liner's dial 802-656-1916
 References " The Joys of Rumination Without The Cud", Elsie circa 1965
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From: u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp)
Subject: Re: Vegemite (Was B12)
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 22:10:44 GMT


Although North Americans seem to hate it - the good old Aussie
Vegemite gives you all the B group top up you need!

Cheers
John
(a happy little Vegemite)

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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Smelling and Tasting
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:54:39 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <28AUG199213235528@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> uushela@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov writes:
>Is it possible for a person to abruptly stop being able to smell and taste? 
>About 4 months ago I had a bad cold, and ever since then, I have not been 
>able to smell or taste normally.  There are 3-4 foods that I can sort of 
>taste, but they all taste the same...sort of like metal.  For the most part
>I can't taste anything.  Is this considered normal?  My GP gave me a saline 
>nasal spray 3 weeks ago, but it hasn't helped a bit.  Are there any books 
>that I could read concerning this, or should I just stop worrying?

You have lost smell, most likely, not taste.  THere are only 4 tastes,
salt, bitter, sweet, sour.  For bitter use quinine water and
sour use lemon juice.  Salt and sugar should round out the suite
of tastes and you can test your tongue to assure yourself that
your taste is intact.  Then you have only your nose to worry
about.  Either the air is not reaching your olfactory nerve
or the olfactory nerve was damaged by the virus.  In the case
of the first, and ENT physician should be able to tell you.
In the case of the second, zinc is tried usually to no effect.
I'd see an ENT for further work up.

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From: rjb3@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (robert.j.brown)
Subject: Re: Nizoral for toenail fungus
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:34:14 GMT
Summary: non-prescription treatment, zinc

In article <1992Sep01.001443.24019@eng.umd.edu>, georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
> In article <1992Aug31.170110.20676@engage.pko.dec.com> bechtler@asdg.enet.dec.com (Laurie Bechtler) writes:
> >
> >
> >I've just started taking Nizoral, and was planning to the library and
> >find some information on it.  At the same time, I wanted to look up
> 
> I recently read that the best drug by far for curing fungus infections
> of the nails is Itraconazole. It has been available in Europe for

I suffered from the dreaded funky, fungus for years and then when I
was about 30 years old I had a bout with prostatitis of unknown
(non-bacterial) origin.  In the post recovery period, the research I
did on that subject suggested that increasing my zinc intake might
help the prostate problem.  I started taking about 50 mg per day of
chelated zinc.  I would skip a few days per week after the first
couple months since I read that
long term zinc ingestion (at higher levels) tends to drive copper
out of your system which I'm told is important in processing iron.

In about six months I noticed that my nail fungus had completely
grown out and was replaced with fresh nail.  That has been about
15 years ago and I have had no recurrence of either problem.  I
subsequently read that zinc was also helpful with the nail fungus.

Of course, this might all be chalked up to the POST HOC logical
fallacy, but zinc is a lot cheaper than the high powered prescription
drugs with less known side-effects.

This seems like one of those classic cases of non-life threatening
ailment being treated with a potent (relatively) drug when a
conservative and inexpensive alternative is available.

Of course there is no patent on chelated zinc....

Bobby - akgua!rjb
From: alanj@dadd.ti.com (Alan Jones)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Hiccups
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:06:29 GMT
Reply-To: alanj@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.

I don't know if this is the right group to post these questions to, but:

1.  Does medical science understand what causes hiccups?

2.  If so, what causes them?

3.  What purpose do hiccups serve?

If the answer to (3) is "dunno", I have a theory I'd like to offer . . .

---
sincerely,
Alan Jones  /  Texas Instruments, Dallas, TX  /  email=alanj@dadd.ti.com
From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: wisdom teeth removal
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:17:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Sep2.201710.2688
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep2.165812.25685@unlv.edu> robert@unlv.edu (Robert Cray) writes:

>I had 3 impacted wisdom teeth removed a few years ago.  I got sodium
>pentathol (sp?) and perhaps the ever popular versed.  All I remember was
>seeing a nurse type person and wondering when they were going to get on
>with it and pull them - except they already had.  I took nothing for the
>pain and rode my bike 7 miles to school that day (I was told not to drive).  

Yikes!  Lucky you didn't fall off...

Surely riding a bike in traffic requires at least as good coordination
as driving.


-- 
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+ Unless otherwise noted, these are private opinions, not official statements.
+ VOTE NO GEORGIA LOTTERY - we need not imitate mistakes of other states.
From: sasjcs@canoe.unx.sas.com (Joan Stout)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Insulin pump
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:05:08 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasjcs@canoe.unx.sas.com


If you use an insulin pump for diabetes management, I would like to 
hear from you. I recently started pump therapy, and I would like to 
exchange experiences and practical information with other "pumpers."

Joan Stout
sasjcs@unx.sas.com
From: odp@ldgo.columbia.edu (carl brenner)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: CFIDS and Lyme
Summary: Etc., etc.
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:20:42 GMT
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory

In article <16290@pitt.UUCP>, geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:

> >	The first half of this century saw literally dozens of papers
> >(mostly European, especially German) linking "MS" to a spirochetal agent.
> >These folks were staining spirochetes all over the place. They may have
> 
> I thought he was talking about now, not in the early part of this century.
> We know a lot more about MS now.  I'd be interested in modern studies
> where the borrelia spirochete is being stained in MS patients.  I don't
> think there are any papers in the literature on that, are there?

	Don't think so. But I don't think anybody's looking, either. This
might be a worthwhile "what the hell" study. The search for a viral causal
agent for MS sure hasn't panned out.


> Lyme could case abnormal VERs in cases that had basilar meningitis.
> Syphilis (another spirochete) does, so Lyme could also.  There isn't
> going to be a magic test until we find a way to absolutely detect
> the spirochete. 

	Amen to that.

> >	Also, Gordon, please stop calling all physicians who treat
> >seronegative patients "quacks." This is unfair. I know many of these guys,
> >and they are anything but.
> 
> The ones I know are almost exclusively "lyme doctors".  All their
> patients have lyme and they treat them over and over and over
> at great cost until the patients finally get wise and give up.
> They're quacks.

	Hmm, I don't think we're talking about the same guys. If you're
talking about local Pittsburgh doctors, we're obviously not. (And how do
these guys get away with it in an area where you say there's no Lyme?!)
	There are several doctors in my region who treat Lyme. (I'm in an
endemic area.) Some are lunatics, capitalizing on the trendiness, some
are quite reasoned in their approach. But frankly, it's a very difficult 
disease. There are all sorts of diagnostic and treatment dilemmas, which most
academic researchers pay lip service to in their papers and then ignore in
a clinical setting.

> Gordon Banks  N3JXP      | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
> geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu   |  it is shameful to surrender it too soon." 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Carl Brenner
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: The dangers of a low cholesterol level
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:28:27 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20In-Reply-To: jkenton@world.std.com's message of Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:44:25 GMTLines: 22

> In article <john.715441732@spssig.spss.com> john@spss.com (John Przyborowski) writes:
> >
> >A NY Times article from August 19 outlined some research that was being 
> >done with "low" cholesterol levels.  Researchers claimed that they have 
> >founds links between low cholesterol levels and violent death, ie. suicide,
> >murder, accidents.  These folks were also supposed to be subject to violent
> >mood swings and liver problems.  I happen to have a low cholesterol level
> >(145) and do not, I REPEAT DO NOT HAVE VIOLENT OUTBURSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ummm, i'm no statistician, but (a) if you remove all the risks of death
associated with coronary disease, or at least that coronary disease associated
w. high cholesterol, isn't it logical that those folks who aren't dying of
heart disease or strokes are going to die of something *ELSE* (e.g., accidents,
etc.)?; (b) wouldn't it be likely that pre-existing liver problems might be the
CAUSE of *some* (but certainly not all) sorts of cholesterol irregularities,
and not the other way around? (cholesterol=122, & no problems w. murder,
suicide, mood or liver;  my doc says this is a normal response to having been a
vegetarian for 15 years)

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
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From: afkazan@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (The Dinky Ukie)
Subject: Re: Zoloft?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Cats `R' Us
Date: 27 Aug 1992 15:06 EST  

In article <1992Aug26.153605.10353@spdcc.com>, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes...
>In article <l9mce0INNjvq@cronkite> nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>>Is this a placebo?
>>
> 
>It depends on why you're being prescribed it. :-)
> 
>It appears to be an effective antidepressant, though there's no
>guarantee that any particular individual will benefit from it.
> 
>-- 
>Steve Dyer
>dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
D.U.

I can testify to the benefits of Zoloft.  I've been taking it for four 
weeks now for clinical depression, and its effect is *wonderful*.  My mood 
and state of mind have improved 500% (honestly!).  =;-]  

Because the results are so great, I'd be willing to take it the rest of my 
life, even though the pills are pricey (almost $2 apiece), but because my 
doctor feels it's a relatively new antidepressant and all its side effects 
are not documented, he wants to switch me to a more proven drug, Tofranil, 
which he says I can take indefinitely.

Does anyone have any experience with or information about Tofranil, i.e., its 
effectiveness, side effects, etc.?  I have to admit I'm concerned about 
changing medication for fear of sinking back into a deep depression, which 
would be pure h*ll!  Thanks for any and all replies.

Chris
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer)
Subject: Re: Diabetic coma
Reply-To: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:29:22 GMT

geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:

>Amazing how dense some people are!  You thought the point was
>that we should be paid?  We have no interest in being paid.
>But, the point is, that unless you are paying
>you have no right to demand that the information be served according
>to your specifications.  Especially when you aren't even the
>one who asked the question in the first place.  And those who seem to 
>bitch all the time rarely contribute anything of value
>themselves, anyhow.  So if you don't like what you are getting
>for free, screw you.

Sarcasm intended:

My my my...how defensive we are, aren't we?  & may I compliment your
final statement -- so well thought out, so articulate, so...useful.

Seriously:

I'm convinced your generalizations about who may demand, who bitches,
& who contributes, are simply not true.  Perhaps you might produce
some statistical evidence to support your claims.

As for "specifications", there are no specifications that I have seen
for posting to the net.  However, my experience has been that the goal
has traditionally been to communicate concisely, accurately, &
precisely.  Medical information that is not communicated in this
manner may quite easily mislead someone into injuring themselves or
others.  

From what appeared to me to be more than post requesting the accurate
use of current terminology, I observe that a significant part of the
bitching about this matter has come from you.  & certainly the
greatest quantity of vulgarity &/or profanity.

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: diet pills and cancer 
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:14:24 GMT

In article <0edYmSe00iUzQ4N4Nn@andrew.cmu.edu> Cristina Bicchieri <cb36+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>my doctor prescribed an anorexant called Fastin (phentermine). My
>question is: Can such pills have an effect on cancer cells? For example,
>in case they speed up metabolism, does it mean they also speed up the
>rate of division of cancer cells? Can the substance be mutagenic? Thanks

I don't think there's anything to worry about.  Sympathomimetic
drugs like phentermine aren't thought to have any particular
effect on cancer cells.  Likewise, I'd be very surprised if such
a substance had any mutagenic activity.


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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: klinger@saturn.sdsu.edu (Andrew Klinger)
Subject: autonomic effects of illness
Originator: klinger@saturn.sdsu.edu
Organization: San Diego State University, Math Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:54:09 GMT


I have a question to ask about the possible effects on the autonomic
nervous system of a bad flu, since I am one of an apparent multitude
being treated for anxiety who is doubtful of his diagnosis.

I have been having heart palpitations (mild bradycardia and pulse
irregularity with a pounding pulse - diastolic BP unchanged, systolic
up by fifteen to twenty) for about a month and a half.  They got worse
for about a month and peaked for about a week when I had a flu (fever,
loss of appetite, diarrhea, general malaise) and since then have been
declining, but very slowly.  
During this time I have been treated with an antianxiety drug, which
seems to have had no effect on the palpitations but does help me go
to sleep.  My problem is that it has been two weeks since all dramatic
flu symptoms disappeared, and the palpitations and physical weakness
persist, along with mild chest pain (earlier this summer, I was jogging
about 10 miles/week; now two flights of stairs is about my limit).
My EKG (as of a week ago) is clean but no other tests have been done.
The symptoms have a strong positional dependence - palpitation is worst
when sleeping or lying down for any reason; in fact, my supine BP has
been measured higher than my standing BP.

I have been looking up stuff on parasympathetic disorders and such, but
frankly I don't know where to start.  I am a Kaiser Permanente patient,
so naturally the physician referred me to a therapist and the therapist
said it sounded more physical to him.  Any information or tips will be 
appreciated - I'm willing to do the legwork on this one.

Andrew Klingler