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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
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Subject: Re: Alien news
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:54:50 GMT
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From article <alien.025q@acheron.amigans.gen.nz>, by alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith):
> Second, one in the eye for all you [insert epithet of choice] who flamed me
> for daring to suggest that the A2/A3 continuity should take priority over
> Ridley Scott's original ideas for A1 -- Scott agrees with me! He intentionally
> left the "missing footage" as extra, separate material on the A1 laserdisc
> (rather than re-integrating it with the actual movie) in order to maintain
> continuity with the later movies.

This would only prove that Scott is more considerate with regard to
the ideas of others than James Cameron is.  (But of course everyone
who has seen Aliens accepts that anyway, except for the Cameron
worshippers.)
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Subject: Higlander III
From: bakerjd@hirama.hiram.edu
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:14:32 -0500
Organization: Hiram College
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	Does anyone know what the plot for Highlander III is 
reputed to be????? Thanks! :-)

-Jono

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From: jwalters@stsci.edu (Jim Walters)
Subject: Re: Terminator
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 23:33:17 GMT

Sorry, I'm new in this group and hadn't realised the answer was in the
FAQ.
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From: jmstreck@carson.u.washington.edu (John Streck)
Subject: Re: Star Trek sequel?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 07:21:06 GMT

alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy) writes:

>In <1992Dec23.202148.25000@u.washington.edu> jmstreck@carson.u.washington.edu (John Streck) writes:

>>And personally, I would eat my sock if a new Star Trek movie was released in
>>any month but May or June. They may be crap (as I think they are), but
>>they are crap specifically aimed at the summer movie crowds. A new Star
>>Trek film in January (just when all us kids go back to school)? I don't
>>think so.

>And where were you last year when Star Trek VI came out?  I know where _I_ was;
>Friday, DECEMBER 6th, I was in line for the premier.  Star Trek IV opened
>around Thanksgiving (whatever year).  Five _did_ come out in the summer, but
>the last two GOOD Trek movies opened for the Christmas crowds.
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Oops. My mistake--Trek films are now Christmas crap, not summer crap (too
much competition, perhaps). Point still holds, however: It would be dubious to
see any expected blockbuster targeted at the teen crowd released in
January. (Though now that I think of it, they might have reached the point
where the Trek movies are so bad--and having made big claims that the last
one would be the _LAST_ one--that they would have to release the film in some
off season with no competition in order to make a few bucks.) 

And personally, I think the only tolerable Trek film was 2, though I
haven't the faintest idea when it was released (though I'll bet a dollar it
was in summer).

Nonetheless, does anyone know a good way to prepare sock?

jms
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
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Subject: Re: Terminator
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:28:18 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <Bzr0wF.7n7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, by flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell):
> I like to think it's related to the late 60's movie where the US
> defense computer links up with the Soviet's computer and they begin
> ruling the world.
 
> I think the name of the movie (and the computer) was Goliath.

Colossus.  Made after a novel (by D.F. Jones, I think).  There were
two sequels, The Fall of Colossus and Colossus and the Crab, which I
haven't read.

> Sounds REALLY close to the events that are supposed to happen in the
> Terminator movies.

Actually, they have nothing in common beyond the premise and the
assumption such a machine would be willing to use its weapons against
its builders, which is hardly rare or original.  In particular, the
time travel angle and humanoid robots are totally absent from
Colossus.
 
To continue the thread of second- and third-hand info, the way I
remember hearing the story, Cameron once said that the idea for the
story came when he was watching an Outer Limits episode.  This was
sufficient for Ellison to sue the producer.  They finally settled out
of court.
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From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park - DNA in blood?
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:51:09 GMT

In article <724820727snx@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au>, cam@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au (Cameron Newham) writes:
> 
>  > [Jurassic Park.]
>  > had been found which still contained the blood of some dinosaur, and how they
>  > manage to extract the DNA.
> 
> I have been told that blood is one of the few things that doesn't contain
> DNA.  Anyone care to comment on this?

Mammalian red blood cells do not contain nuclei, and thus no DNA.
I don't know about other vertebrates, as to whether they have nuclei in their
RBC's.

However, there's a good deal of other cells in blood that do have nuclei: all
the varieties of white blood cells (leukocytes, monophils, eosinophils, etc.
etc. etc.).

I just saw a preview for JP, which showed mining (mining?) of amber, and
viewing a mosquito in amber under a microscope.  It had a voiceover describing
the process of re-creating dinos from the mosquito spit ;) and describing the
whole thing as having already taken place (I guess they're keeping Crichton's
original time frame).

Joel
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From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri)
Subject: Re: Star Trek sequel?
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>>>>> On 23 Dec 92 02:03:00 GMT, DCHANG@uhccmvs.BITNET (Doreen Chang) said:

Doreen> I was casually kicked back on the living room couch when an ad
Doreen> flashed across Fox, something about a Star Trek movie coming out
Doreen> this January.

If you mean "Deep Space Nine", it isn't a movie, but a new TV series.

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From: donnell@eel.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Trying to remember a movie
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 01:32:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.001223.9719@ac.dal.ca> mabw0164@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <1992Dec19.141834.866@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>, harit@kripalu.com writes:
>
>It was indeed "The Questor Tapes".  I think it was one of a series of 
>made-for-TV movie-pilots by Gene Rodenberry that didn't make it. (check
>with Judex on that one. My copy of Leonard Maltin's book doesn't list it
>anymore, but a previous edition did). Another that came out about the same
>time was "Genesis II" with Alex Cord.
>
>Joe
>01fortec@ac.dal.ca

Yeah, it was a Roddenberry production, with Mike Farrell in his pre-
B.J. Hunnicutt days. Not too bad, I heard it was axed due to similaities
with the "Six Million Dollar Man", but that is as ridiculous as every other
reason I have ever heard, and that is the one given by his wife's<Majel
Barrett Roddenberry's old souvenir company, Lincoln Enterprises>.

Genesis II was another, but when that failed, they tried again with
"Planet Earth", with John Saxon. That died too. Other than "Star Trek",
Gene never seemed to get a show on the air for more than a pilot.
So it goes.

Why did you want to check with me, this is pretty common knowledge. I 
thought you only gave me the hard ones! B}
Happy Holidays to All
Pax
					--Judex--
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
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Subject: Re: Star Trek VII ?!?!?!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 13:16:13 -0600
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  Did he say anything about the details of the movie?
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From: mart4372@mach1.wlu.ca (Reginald Martin u)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VII ?!?!?!
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:41:01 GMT

Around the time of STV, the whole cast signed a deal with Paramount
for STVI and STVII.  However, this was a while ago and in 'the biz'
contracts don't often seem to mean a whole lot.  Most of the actors
have said that they don't want to do STVII, but I'd bet that the
folks at Paramount will try to persuade them into it after the 
abnormal success of STVI.
Reg Martin
mart4372@mach1.wlu.ca.
From: chavel@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Chris Havel)
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Subject: Re: Realistic Space Scenes
Date: 30 Dec 1992 17:30:48 -0600
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alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:

>In article <BzGxE5.vs@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>>i've only ever seen one, and it was in Katsuhiro Otomo's AKIRA.
>>
>>When Tetsuo flys up and destroys the Sol sattelitte, it is all done in
>>complete silence, as it should be.  It is the only movie I've ever seen
>>where the filmmaker acknowledges that sound does not travel in a vacuum.

>I remember that! I was quite impressed...

>Also in "Robot Jox", the battle in space is completely silent. (BTW, RJ is
>a must-see for all mecha fans, IMHO.)

Remember 2001? Disregard the sequel. 2001: A Space Odyssey had silent space, too.

chavel@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: ryonkers@mis.mi04.zds.com (Russell Yonkers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Star Trek sequel?
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:14:52 GMT
Organization: Zenith Data Systems


 I am surprise that you think Star Trek is for the teen crowd.
I am 31 and love ST  all my friends and most of my family also
love both ST and ST:TNG ... this is definately not a kiddy bopper thing
and maybe if you have so much trouble with it and being polite to
people that do mayby it is your teeny bopper mentality that prevents
it.  If you don't like ST then that is fine but must you put down
those of us that do?  (maybe you are one of the crowd that
goes nuts over the Bundys in "Married with sick humor"?)
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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: "moon 44" (was re: anothe
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:13:36 EST

Hi Fred!

Yeah, those combat-helicopters bugged me too a bit. I guess the
producers didn't have enough money to get some futuristic mattes built,
so they settled for some second-hand stuff. If you noticed, the models
are never shown clearly, only in that peasoup that goes for atmosphere.
Although there was that pretty good model of the transport ship...eh,
who knows?
    Not that the existence of those helicopters couldn't have a rational
explanation - still, a few air-cushion vehicles (such as the
landspeeders from SW) would've looked better. Point is, the show was
decent compared to its multi-million dollar competitors.

Take care (& happy holidays)

Robert
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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: alien 4 - not stop-motion
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:02:31 EST

Thanks for the information, James.

Take care

Robert
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From: ggreene@koko.csustan.edu (George Greene)
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Subject: Re: Highlander III
Date: 30 Dec 92 09:28:47 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus


I herd it was to deal with Conner haveing a son who is as he was
Immortal ,But I think it may have been caned due to low Box office
for HII I just want to see the uncut verson of the first Highlander.
Check in StarLog any issue dealing with H II may have something in it.
                                 George Greene
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From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
Subject: Re: Shutup about Blade Runner
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:07:14 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
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In article <BzF3BI.B4K@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason) writes:
>  
>  ps. Blade Runner is still crap. Harrison Ford thinks so too.
>  (oops I did it again)

     Yes, but does he _really_ think so or is it just an implanted
memory?

		-Phil, thinking that the least effective way of
			killing a thread is to gripe about it.


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From: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Rachel Ward was a *fabricant*...??? :-)
Reply-To: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk (Lloyd Wood)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 10:25:16 GMT

Sean Young played Rachel, Harrison Ford played Deckard - that's the confusion.
Deckard took hours to determine that Rachel was a *REPLICANT*, whereas
Ebert had to be told what he was seeing wasn't real.

Nice to see Byte is still getting its facts right ;-)

L.H.Wood@uk.ac.lut
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
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Subject: Re: space rangers
Date: 3 Jan 1993 13:16:18 -0600
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  One question for you, and it is about the show "Space Rangers."
How could you know that the actors are not worth knowing if you have not
seen any of the show. Unknown actor are sometime far better than many of
the, so called, well known actors we look for.
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From: alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VII ?!?!?!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:42:24 GMT

In <C03686.1pI@idm.com> elr@idm.com (Eric L Reiner) writes:

>Has anybody heard about Star Trek 7 - the movie?  A local TV station
>has been broadcasting an anouncement about a Star Trek convention on
>Jan 4 in Chicago where they will show (amoung other things) previews
>of Star Trek VII.  Is this for real or are they trying to get me to a 
>convention where I will be disappointed.  My understanding was that
>ST VI was it, no more, thats all fokes, etc....  Any information would
>be appreciated.

Well, at the release of ST VI, it supposedly _was_ the end.  But rumors have
been flying that Paramount is interested (possibly) in making a VII.  Word
from rec.arts.startrek.current is that Shatner submitted a script that was
denied.  So, VII _is_ a possibility, but without a script, there is NO WAY
they could be showing clips from it yet.  Like another post-er said, it's
probably clips from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, which premiers next week.

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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: star trek sequel?
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 24 Dec 92 01:25:35 EST

Howdy Doreen!

    Well, I don't have much information, but what I have I'm happy to
share. You probably saw an ad of Deep Station 9, which is a spin-off on
ST:TNG. It starts in January, in the Universe of ST:TNG, but takes place
on a desolate space-station, with some familiar faces (such as the
transporter engineer from the ship, who is transferred to this station),
& promises a bit more "earthly" attitude - that is, more dirt & poverty
& worn out equipment, less perfection & beautiful optimistic people.
It's also rumored that, as TNG was planned for seven season & now it's
in its fifth (or sixth), Deep Station 9 is gonna be TNG's successor,
while TNG is planned to make eventually the BIG transfer to the silver
screen. I've also heard (this is really just a rumour) that in the TNG
movie version finally Kirk appears (as you know, the doctor & Spock has
done their part in tying up the two series with each other already...).

Well, that's about it. Take care

Robert
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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: moontrap
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:21:14 EST

Howdy Dan!

Your explanation is not bad, but in certain points I have to disagree.
For instance, if you hear things hitting the surface by seismic
resonnaisance, why the heck did you hear the chatter of smgs? From what
I saw, none of the heroes were beating their weapon to the surface...

Second, it probably avoided your attention, but those shells in which
the robots survived (and which was supposedly invincible) became their
heads when they fully "developed". Now, you don't need more
contradiction than that - a shell that's invincible in one sceen, but
becomes the ONLY weak point in the other.

About that space-suit: if it didn't get corroded in the sterile
environment of the Moon, it couldn't have anything to do with an
oxigen-tank - yet the lady didn't have to "refill" before walked out
with our heros.

BTW, I have to admit, I just loved your theory about facilitating
"ladies ready to strip" in order to "gain rapid communication"...(g)
Although, I didn't see Koenig using any kind of condom - & who knows
what kind of viruses could've survived in our lovely "communicator"?

Take care

Robert
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From: kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai)
Subject: Re: space rangers
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:54:56 GMT

pkwu@is0.is.morgan.com (Peter Wu) writes:

>...
>there is also Babylon 5 which is suppose to be very similar to Deep
>Space Nine, but at the moment it is just going to be a movie, although
>the producers want to make it a series.  They are both syndicated.

Sorry to burst the bubble but that simply ain't so. B5 and Ds9 are quite
different from each other -- different premise, different universe,
different production technologies, etc.  The space stations are radically
different, everything is not so "hunky-dory" in the B5 universe, etc.
They are different thank god!  B5 has been proposed for over 5 years now.
I hope it succeeds wildly.

But why is all this posted in rec.arts.sf.MOVIES anyway first of all?
 
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From: chelius@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (The Shaggy T.A.)
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Subject: Re: Jurassic Park - DNA in blood?
Date: 1 Jan 1993 21:38:20 GMT
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In article <schumach.725764211@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
>Er, not really a problem: mammalian red cells have no nuclei,
>true, but reptiles and birds do have nucleiated red cells.
>Thus it's highly likely that dinosaurs did too.

I'm currently reading the book and this is the explanation given by Crichton.
Although, the theory expressed in the book is that dinosaurs are actually,
"big leathery birds..." (or should I say *WERE*).  I hope the movie doesn't
just breeze over this point, i.e. lose some of the precision of the book.

Happy New Year...
-Shags
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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
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Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Date: 23 Dec 92 07:42:11 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1096@blue.cis.pitt.edu> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>In article <6252@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
>>From article <962@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, by seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp):
>>> 	"YOU'RE Terminated, sucker!" -- Sarah Connor, T1

>>The most inane line of the whole film.  Sounds totally artificial.

>	Different tastes, I guess. She said precisely what *I* would have
>said in that instance. I mean, think about it. This little bugger has
>been chasing you for god knows how long, it won't let go, it won't stop,
>and FINALLY you have it! I'd say SOMETHING nasty to it as I squashed it, 
>that's for sure.

Yeah, I kinda liked that one.  Sure was a hell of a lot better than that
stupid, STUPID, "Get away from here you bitch!" from Aliens.  I hated
that one.

But one thing:

Wasn't it "You're terminated, fucker!"?

Maybe I just misunderstood her...all 12 times. :-)

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