From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (RedSwordTarga)
Subject: Re: FUCK ALL YOU MARIED DORKS!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:44:46 GMT

strickha@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Heath A. Strickland) writes:


>It seems that all of these men writing and telling us all how good an open  
>relationship is are worse than the guy who posted in the first place. 

In what way?

>Since I have posted what marriage should be I have received various flames  
>talking about my christian beliefs.  Well,  since 12th grade I have been  
>an athiest and my morals aren't so high.  But I do remember dating this  
>girl...practically living with her.  I loved her so much that I wanted to  
>marry her.  Only problem is,  I just could not promise her I could stay  
>loyal.  Some of my open minded friends told me to tell her I would marry  
>her if we could have an open relationship.  Only problem is I just  
>couldn't ask her to marry me and then in the same breath tell her "but I  
>am still gonna go on dating others."  In effect telling her there will be  
>no difference between before and after. 

So you are saying that being unable to commit is a good thing?

Most people who are involved in 'open' relationships that work decide
to have 'open' relationships quite some time after they have been married/
committed to each other. In fact, everyone I know who is in an 
'open' marriage did the spouse only thing for at least a few years.
They committed, and then later on down the road, they *both* decided that
having a relationship where they were both able to express their affection
for other people in a physical manner was a desirable thing. 

You = can't commit.

Them = Committed, dealt with a growing relationship in an adult manner.

>Why do you think marriage is marriage?

Look, many different people have many different ideas on what constitutes
marriage and/or a relationship. Your particular view is fine for you,
but please, don't try and force it down the rest of our throats.

> But to all of you open minded boys out there (who probably  
>aren't married and have open relationships to begin with),  good luck with  
>your phony gold rings and glass diamonds and may a better man (which  
>wouldn't be hard to find) win your open minded wife(if she is truly open  
>minded like you tell all your late night sexual partners).

Oh..we are so hurt. *gasp swoon*  If you are implying that most people
in open relationships are cheating on their wives, well, you are way off
base. The wives know and *approve* of their husband's activities and are
themselves engaged in said activities. Please, your views are fine for
you, but don't assume that they are what every woman in the world wants.

Axly

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