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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: NeXT on a Token Ring network?
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 06:19:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.224959.925@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
	dan@dsullivan.kellogg.nwu.edu (Daniel Sullivan) writes:
>I would like to connect a NeXT into network of PCs that run Novell Netware  
>overa Token Ring network.

Double-barf.

>                           In particular I would like to be able to get files  
>from their server and to exchange mail with them.  (They use something called  
>cc mailer.)

Triple-barf.

>What kind of hardware do I need?  My understanding is that a bridge is  
>expensive (>$1000).  Do I need such a thing?

I'll be impressed if you can do this for under $6000.

>What kind of software do I need?

MHS<->SMTP gateway software maybe?

>                                  Will NS 3.0 be sufficient?

I doubt it.

					-=EPS=-
-- 
Novell is the moral equivalent of Scientology.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Subject: Re: No namelist when I do a `w`
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 13:31:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.233124.23572@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> khw2x@Virginia.edu(Kevin Weiss) writes:
>What's wrong with my NeXT?  I does like this...
>
>{sonja}/users/khw2x>w
>No namelist
>

It sounds like someone either stripped /sdmach or screwed with the permissions
such that you cannot read it.  On my Release 2.1 system:

	-r--r--r--  2 root      708219 Mar  7  1991 /sdmach

louie


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: dat drives
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:36:27 GMT

Jeff Putnam writes
> 
> We have a WangDAT scsi dat drive that wont run on the machine
> it was purchased for.
> 
> How hard is it to hook one of these up to a NeXT (specifically
> a color slab)?  How much of a driver needs to be written?
> 
	Well an HP-DAT was shutdown, hookup, and boot.  WangDats are pretty  
much the same from all I've heard

> Is there any chance 3.0 will be released on dat tape?
> 

	Not really, but BANG (Bay Area Next Group) has discussed making tapes,  
if you give them a legal CD (Proof that you have a 3.0 registration)
> --

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From: chan@cs.sfu.ca (Stephen Chan)
Subject: screenblank?
Organization: Simon Fraser University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:00:16 GMT

Is there a screenblank program available for the NeXT?
I'm using a terminal window on the console for login
instead of using the loginwindow program.

Stephen Chan
Network Support Group
Centre for Systems Science
From: opsrjh@uccvma.ucop.edu (Richard Hintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT on a Token Ring network?
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:05:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.rsvapINNcor
Reply-To: opsrjh@uccvma.ucop.edu (Richard Hintz)
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: oz.ucop.edu

In article <1992Apr1.224959.925@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>  
dan@dsullivan.kellogg.nwu.edu (Daniel Sullivan) writes:
> I would like to connect a NeXT into network of PCs that run Novell Netware  
> overa Token Ring network.  In particular I would like to be able to get files  
> from their server and to exchange mail with them.  (They use something called  
> cc mailer.)
> 
> What kind of hardware do I need?  My understanding is that a bridge is  
> expensive (>$1000).  Do I need such a thing?
> 
> What kind of software do I need?  Will NS 3.0 be sufficient?


Bridges between Ethernet and Token Ring include IBM 8209 and Cisco (router).
For mail gateway software between Novell and SMTP, look at Charon which is  
available at syr.edu (among other places according to Archie).  The hardware is  
not cheap.  
--
Richard Hintz  opsrjh@uccvma  hintz@oz.ucop.edu
University of California
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Using a NeXT as an Ethernet converter
Keywords: ethernet
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:48:00 GMT

doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes:

>Is it possible to use a NeXT to convert a twisted-pair ethernet connection to  
>the other format (I forget its name) via the following hookup:

>==================>  NeXT  ---------------------->  machine with BNC connector
>(twisted pair in)         (out from BNC connector)
>                          (terminated correctly of course)

It says all over the place in manuals and NeXTAnswers that it is
impossible to configure both the twisted pair and thin ethernet
ports at the same time.  (They apparently share the same hardware
inside, etc.)
-- 
David Lemson                                                 (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant  / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                 UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                   BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: UUCP: 64-byte packet -> 256-byte packet
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:09:50 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@cubetech.com

In article <1992Apr14.072753.3333@proponent.com> Monty Solomon  
<monty%roscom@think.com> writes:

>  Something must be terribly wrong if you are only getting ~110 cps throughput  
>  via end-to-end Telebit uucp spoofing.
>  
>  Monty

I wish I were spoofing... my upstream site has some cheezy v.32 modem.  However  
it's hooked up to a terminal server which is hooked up to the net to their  
computer in New York (I think).  There is so much net-lag that the ACKs can  
take several seconds to come back.  Really slow.


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com
Andrew Loewenstern            |  "listen: there's a hell of a good universe
Cube Technologies, Inc.       |   next door; let's go." --- e.e. cummings
From: borrel@sigallah.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Problem with talk
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:28:34 GMT
Organization: University of Oslo

In article <1992Apr08.032807.4030@slate.mines.colorado.edu>  
mfriedel@monolith.rmnug.org writes:
> Well here is what I get when I try to invoke talk on my machine
> 
> [Couldn't bind to control socket : Can't assign requested address (49)]
> ......
> Mike

I simply get a [Checking for invitation on caller's machine] from both my  
NeXT Dimension Cube and the other host, a SUN (both ways).

Any advice appreciate - preferably by mail.

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From: bill@eplnxt.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How do I set up mail on the NeXT.
Date: 10 Apr 1992 19:27:24 GMT
Reply-To: bill@eplnxt.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: nasa-jsc

I am connected to internet and can ftp just fine.  In addition, I can send  
mail but can not recieve it nor can I send or receive mail from different  
accounts on the same NeXT.  How do I configure this NeXT to be a stand  
alone machine capable of recieving and sending mail over internet.

		bill
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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca  (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: More on NFS Export problems
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:34:31 GMT

Thomas Funke writes
> In <1992Apr7.200756.4257@knipp.en.open.de> elmar@knipp.en.open.de (Elmar  
Knipp) writes:
> 
> 
> >I am not sure, but I think that you had to reboot 
> >a NeXT to make changes in /etc/export are recognized
> >from NFS-Server.
> 
> Not true, just run 'exportfs' with appropriate parameters. 
> 


Sorry, Elmar is correct.  Below is an excerpt from our file server's
rc file.  If exports isn't there, it won't export the file system or start 
nfsd or mountd.

# if /etc/exports file exists become nfs server
if [ -f /usr/etc/nfsd -a -f /etc/exports ]; then
        /usr/etc/exportfs -a                            >/dev/console 2>&1
        /usr/etc/nfsd 12 && (echo -n ' nfsd')           >/dev/console
        /usr/etc/rpc.mountd && (echo -n ' rpc.mountd')  >/dev/console 2>&1
fi
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From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: More on NFS Export problems
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:39:34 GMT

Paul Woods writes
> In article <12105@tamsun.tamu.edu> cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu (Charles Herrick)  
> writes:
> > I've changed export information in /etc/exports and then did the following  
> > on many NeXTs:
> > 	% exportfs -uav
> > 	% exportfs -av
> > 
> > only to have to reboot the NeXT NFS server because the damn
> > 	EXPORTFS
> > didn't work!!
> > 
> > Now, I don't even think twice. My rule is:
> > 	If you changed /etc/exports ...
> > 1) do exportfs -uav
> > 2) then reboot.
> > 3) no kidding.
> > 
> > 	chuck
> > 
> > 
> 
> I don't know why you have to re-boot, but you should not have to.  I make  
> changes to the /etc/exports file on many NeXT's on a daily basis (don't ask)  
and  
> never have to re-boot.  One thing that you might want to try is picking up a  
> product called NFS/TEST from Intercon Corp. (you need a mac to run it) and  
you  
> will be able to see if your d's are up and running properly.
> 
>  

Ok, guys, look in the /etc/rc file.  The NFS stuff isn't run unless  
/etc/exports exists.

Thus the FIRST time you create /etc/exports, the daemons aren't running, and  
you either have to start them by hand, or reboot.

Changing an EXISTING exports command only requires that you run exportfs with  
the appropriate flags afterword.

Hope this clears things up a bit.

sherwood
From: mark@ccc1.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: DELETED HOME DIRECTORY!!! (please help)
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:43:33 GMT

I set up a 2 machine network and created some network user accounts and then  
transfered the files from the local account to the network account.  I then  
went in and remove the local user account and home directory (which was the  
same name as the network account) which deleted all the files in the network  
account.  If you know of a way to retrieve deleted files please help me

Thanks
desperate mark
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From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Re: Printing over Ethertalk ?
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:11:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.163646.25588@cs.tu-berlin.de> ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de  
(Ernst Kloecker) writes:
> I want to print from NeXT to a printer connected via EtherTalk. Is there
> any way to teach the NeXT (OS 2.1) EtherTalk ? Will printing over EtherTalk
> be no problem at all in OS 3.0 ?

You should be able to do it with CAP as long as you have some external router  
like a FastPath or GatorBox.

CAP currently supports AppleTalk Phase I only.
-- 
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: drw@infidel.lanl.gov (David Wolf)
Subject: modem -- everex -- evercom
Followup-To: drw@infidel.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 08:41:20 GMT

hello netters.

i've obtained an everex evercom 24e+ modem which i am hooking up to my 030 
cube and accessing with tip.

i am having no trouble using tip to talk to the modem and dialing out with
'at' commands manually to make a successful connection...  

however, if i use the :du:pn=...  option in the
/etc/remote file and use tip then dialing is ok, but the modem does not hear
the answering carrier, apparently, and reports 'RING' instead, just before it
hangs up.  hah.  not funny.

so - is it the modem, or is it the tip program that's goofed up?  any good 
ideas?

send yer advice and requests for info to me directly, 

thanks,

  David Wolf
  drw@infidel.lanl.gov
From: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Weird Bug...
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:06:30 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon



I'm finding this error message popping up in my console window right after login:

rld(): Undefined symbols:
_basename

This is what my console looks like:
Software Version 2.1 (Warp6.11)
rld(): Undefined symbols:
_basename
Apr  6 09:42:12 Workspace[158]: ...Ready


I've sent something to bugnext@next.com, but I thought I might get a quick answer
here. 

This is the only time the error message has popped up lately (when I log in).

The message first appeared around the time when I first installed the latest version 
of the PD SLIP package.  At that time, the message occured several times (I don't know 
why or what I did to trigger the error).  I removed SLIP, and I found the error 
message still appearing, although only when I logged in. I've since reinstalled SLIP 
and the message has only appeared as it does above.

This doesn't seem to be breaking anything...yet.  It would really put my mind at
rest to find out why this is happening.

Thanks.
-- 
Anwar Mohammed                           Graduate Student
anwar+@cs.cmu.edu  (NeXTmail welcome!)   School of Computer Science
Voice: +1 412 268 3043                   Carnegie-Mellon University
Fax:   +1 412 681 5739                   Pittsburgh, PA  15213-3890
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Steve Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: "dump" params for Archive tape?
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:20:23 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University
In-reply-to: scotty@gagetalker.com's message of 7 Apr 92 07:43:45 GMT

Who's got a good set of parameters to feed dump for dumping to 150Mb
Archive (viper) tapes?

I really hope the scsi tape support in 3.0 is a bit more serious than
it has been so far.

--Steve Anderson
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Question on tape drives
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:32:50 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

Michael Gersten writes
> 
> Questions on tape drives.
> 
> A long time ago there was something called a "Stringy Floppy". What this
> was was a tape drive where you could write to block #x on the tape, and
> not destroy block #x+1. This allowed it to be used as a slow floppy
> drive (hence the name).
> 
> Is there anything like this in modern tape drives, or are they strictly
> a "Re-write from beginning to end, only" sequential devices?
> 
> What prices should I expect to pay for a tape drive?
> 

The helitical scan drives (Exabyte and DAT) have problems positioning the tape  
to exactly the same place every time.  On the Exabytes it works like this:
There is an erase head ahead of the write head.  It's about 11 tracks wide.
When ever the drive stops writing for any reason (Slow access, computer is busy  
with something else, whatever) the drive writes 11 "gap tracks"  These are 0  
filled data blocks, with special header info marking them as gap tracks.  When  
the buffer is full enough to start writing again, the drive reverses for 11  
tracks, brings the drum and tape up to speed, reads the last track it wrote,  
reads the gap track, and starts writing after the gap track.

Net effect:
	Writing track x destroys tracks x+1 to x+11.  Writing track x makes it  
impossible to write track x+1.

You do NOT have to start at the beginning however.  I can start writing on a  
tape at any filemark.  You work it like this:
(Exabyte receipe:  Haven't tried with a DAT yet.)
move to the filemark. bsf to the front side of the tape mark.
Write 2 tape marks,
Bsf over one.  Now you can write to the tape.  Anything beyond this is history,  
due to a deficiency in Nexts tape driver.  (The tape drive itself permits  
advancing beyond the double filemark that is the usual signal for end of  
recorded media.  Next's mt command won't let you do it.)

The mechanisms of the tape drive support what you say, and it would be workable  
if you defined blocks as being a large number of tracks.  (On an Exabyte, a  
track = 8 k)  You would ignore the 10 track gaps as being part of your "floppy  
format" headers.  

Note also.  The standard exabyte 8200 has a forward search capacity that is  
only 10 times the reading speed.  This means that it can take 5-10 minutes just  
to position the tape.

The DAT's are  much faster at positioning, averaging about a minute.

Prices:  DATs start at 1500 and go up to about 3000.
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y.  Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: tektronix 401*
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:31:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.202045.26267@afit.af.mil> ekouba@smaug (Eric T.  
Kouba) writes:
> Are there any Tektronix 401* emulators for the NeXT?
> I have a program that wants to run under a particular
> VAX machine, so I must telnet from my NeXT to the VAX.
> The output graphics will display only on a tektronix 
> window.
> 
You can get X-windows for the NeXT from  various FTP sites like purdue or  
oragon state. This has also a Tektronix emulator built in.
yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Subject: Netinfo Hassles,  How to fix?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:40:28 GMT

On our group of Next's we seem to have a problem with the Netinfo
Database.  We have a bogus entry in groups which has a directory of id of
0.  This is source of endless amusement, since it's a recursive entry.
The suggested fix in the manuals (N+SA pg 37) doesn't work for this entry.
UserMgr would croak, etc..   We probably made all sorts of neophyte
mistakes we set these up originally.

I've isolated the bogus entry in "groups" renamed it to something else and
created a new "groups", copied things over and this seems
to keep things humming.

However I keep getting messages ...netinfod[64] cannot lookup child 
on the console. The Root Domain Directory:0 also seems to have a rather
interesting directory instance 43643964.  Is this related to these funny
entries?  Should I dump the entire netinfo database and reload from
scratch? [ argh :-( ]

Suggestions, or pointers to appropriate archives appreciated.

Email responses preferred, I'll summarize if there is interest.


-- 
Jerry S. Weiss	  "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the antimatter!"
j-weiss@nwu.edu    Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School
From: bob@mwhhlaw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: HP Laser Jet II
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:36:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: mwhhlaw.1992Apr16.123642.3266
Reply-To: uunet!mwhhlaw!bob
Organization: Martin_Wade_Hartley_&_Hollingsworth

In article <1992Apr14.141459.4800@news.nd.edu> bruce@bruce.math.nd.edu  
(Bruce Williams) writes:
> Has anyone successfully used an HP Laser Jet II printer with a NeXT? 

Piece of cake.  You need to call NeXTConnection (1-800-800NEXT).  From  
their PCConnection catalog they will sell you the appropriate Pacific  
Data PostScript font cartridge and memory upgrade.  Plan to spend  
between $500-$800 depending on whether you have a II IIP IID.  From  
their NeXTConnection catalog they will send you the appropriate cable  
for say $15. Fiddle the front panel of the II to set it up for serial  
communication.  Then use PrintManager to configure the NeXT properly,  
and you're in business.  You can even publish it to the network.  We  
have 2 IID's on a NeXT network.  They are slower that the NeXT  
Printers, but hey, we are doing PostScript over serial lines.  The only  
issue is lack of bin selection.  That's not a problem for us, we use  
the same paper in both bins, and it just feeds from the non-empty bin,  
selecting the top one first.  You don't get a manual feed option on the  
Print Panel.  NeXTOS3.0 is supposed to solve the bin selection issue. 
--
	
	-Bob

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From: ken@cs.cornell.edu (Ken Birman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.isis
Subject: Re: ISIS over the internet
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:55:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr10.175559.16791
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <1992Apr10.174219.12856@cascade.Stanford.EDU> weber@cis.Stanford.EDU (Jay Weber) writes:
>
>Sorry if this is a FAQ, but how easy is it to connect ISIS programs
>across the Internet domain?  I'm currently running the PD ISIS v2.1.
>
>Jay Weber

If your internet bandwidth is high, latency is fairly low, and
the line doesn't tend to partition, it should be no problem.

On V2.2 or V3.0, you could connect in via TCP even without these
constraints (use isis_failed() to catch and handle partition failures).

If these conditions don't hold, don't bother to try using ISIS
that way.  Instead, structure ISIS using its wide-area mechanisms
and treat your system as two LAN systems connected by a wide-area link.
This works quite well.

I should probably add that this last approach is far more common then
the first.  Most internet links have very high latency and tend to break
so often that using ISIS as if the internet was a LAN is not realistic.
But, the wide-area stuff works well and so people use this quite often.


-- 
Kenneth P. Birman                              E-mail:  ken@cs.cornell.edu
4105 Upson Hall, Dept. of Computer Science     TEL:     607 255-9199 (office)
Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 (USA)      FAX:     607 255-4428
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