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From: rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls)
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:33:49 GMT

In article <2AAE8D5D.14732@news.service.uci.edu> llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald) writes:
>In article <9SEP92.17193198@wums.wustl.edu> trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu writes:
>>	OH Has anyone out there had a portrait taken with their dog?  I
>
>I have a special deal through Olan Mills here in California.  I get
>four sittings in a year for $20.  My first sitting was Charlie (my
>oldest - a nine year old cocker spaniel) and me.  The second I

Hey!  It was Olan Mills who told me that no stores in their chains took
pet pictures and more!  What gives???!!!  I'll have to call them again.

Robbin
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: charlie@turbo.Columbia.NCR.COM (Charlie Long)
Subject: Re: Diamond Dog Food
Organization: NCR Corp, MCPD-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 11:45:41 GMT

In article <20224@drutx.ATT.COM> mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior) writes:
>A friend of mine (who is also a musher) tried Diamond Dog food and her entire
>kennel had diarrhea and vomitting.  She has warned me to *never* use Diamond.
>You can try it if you like; I know I won't.
>
>DISCLAIMER:  I have had no direct experience with the product and my evaluation
>is based on a friend's recommendation.   
>

I have been feeding diamond (green bag) to my St. Bernard for six-weeks.
My son has been feeding the same to his Golden for about the same time.
Neither of us have experienced any detrimental side affects.  However,
I'm watching this thread carefully, and am open to any suggestins.


-- 
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 NCR Corporation,   3325 Platt Springs Rd., W. Columbia, SC 29170       
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From: hobright@src.honeywell.com (Lesa Hobright Turner)
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:53:38 GMT


>>for all of you out there with healthy pets....take alot of pictures.

I'm overly guilty of taking pictures of my Keeshond.  I sat down at a family
get together with three rolls of newly developed film....all of my dog. :)  
The family wasn't impressed ;-).
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Recommendations...
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:53:51 GMT

In article <4652@d75.UUCP>
vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar) writes:
 
>
>I need an indoor/outdoor dog that is both a guard dog as well as
>friendly.  This is my first dog.  I was looking forward to a
>German Shepard but some people said that the dog will be hard to
>train.
 
 
Baloney!  German Shepards (in my experiance) are very easy to train.
They aren't so soft that you have to walk on egg shells to give
correction, but they aren't so hard headed that they ignore the
correction either.  The only thing you might want to consider to deter
you from GSD's as an indoor dog is that they do shed LOTS of hair.
 
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From: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)
Subject: Suggestions for Show Awards
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:46:44 GMT

Perhaps some of you have seen some unique and nice awards at
dog shows --something besides the traditional choices of
silver bonbon dishes and coffee mugs with the breed picture
on the mug....any ideas, resources, etc would be GREATLY
appreciated.

Dana
massey@cwis.unomaha.edu
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Frightened Greyhound
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:11:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: moser@mccc.edu

SM>I'm guessing that Tiger was not well socialized as a puppy, and I am now
SM>doing something new with him every day - taking him to the pet store,
SM>on walks around the neighborhood, to the neighborhood shopping center,
SM>etc. in an effort to socialize him better. It's harder to do
SM>at this age than it would have been a year ago.

SM>So, please, you doggie people out there in Net Land - help!!!
SM>Any ideas? How can I help Tiger?

You are doing great so far!! Just keep it up, I would also try having
some treats in your pocket and when a situation arises that makes the
dog nervous I would talk softly, and re-assure the dog that everything
is OK and give the dog a treat. Something I did with one of my dogs who
was a " nervous nelly " is have other people give the treats to the dog,
and gently pet the dog. This way she learned that people are OK,
especially kids. Since I have kids, I always make sure the dogs are well
socialized around other peoples kids. I take mine to Soccor Practice,
Baseball, Swim Team etc...there is alot of noise and kids. I never take
the dogs to a child I allow the child to come to me and the dog if they
are interested and then explain how to pet the dog and give a treat. We
stay on the perimeter of the action, as not to scare anyone, some kids
and adults are afraid of dogs. My sons Boxer became the team Mascot, and
was at every game at the teams request!!
Just keep taking the dog with you everywhere you can, and if a loud
situation arises, drop down and give the dog the re-assurance that it
needs. If it is afraid of people, everytime a person approaches do the
same. After awhile, when the dog does not act as nervous or try to hide,
give the dog praise for appropriate behavior.
Hope this helps,
Kathleen@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Person in flux)
Subject: Re: Unlikely event 
Reply-To: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:20:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.161628.8816@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>, 
williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Desperately seeking a major) writes:

>I had some fun with my 7-1/2 year old husky yesterday.  We went to a puppy 
>match yesterday and I entered her in pre-novice obedience.  This was only
>the second time we have ever competed, and out of 13 entries, she came in 
>4th.  You have to understand the humor of this.  Tasha is our problem child.
>In the house, she won't come when she is called, pretty much ignores us when
>we ask her to do something, rules the roost.  

I have known many dogs who were hopeless in practice, but who starred on stage. 
Some dogs just seem to know when those exercises matter, and it's great to
watch them really perform, especially after going through frustrating and
seemingly futile practice routines.

Katie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Re: Panic attacks 
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:56:57 GMT


My dog has done that, too, although not for quite some time.  Twice when
I was walking her she *bolted* (in the same location).  A friend who has
an Akita has also had that problem, although it seems a lot worse in his
dog.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: feeding times (was: New Puppy - Need Advice!!)
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:26:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.144226.7831@terminator.cc.umich.edu> vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>
>To borrow from another thread, have you seen dogs learn to eat veggies from
>watching other dogs?  Peer pressure in action!  I used to use carrot bits
>in obedience class when they wanted us to keep the reward in our mouths.  My
>dog LOVES carrots (and just about any other food you can name), and other
>dogs would be interested in just what she was getting that was so wonderful,
>anyway.  I would ask owners if their dog could have a bit, and I would be told
>"he won't eat that, but go ahead", and every time, he *did* eat it.  
>
>My dog taught my SO's dog to eat veggies, including lettuce (you know, "if *I*
>don't eat this, *she* will!).  I'm enjoying watching my puppy learn to
>eat this stuff.  Her reaction is changing from "what do you think I am, a
>rabbit?" to "if *I* don't eat this stuff, *she* will!".  :-)
>
>If free-feeding works for your dog, great.  It's easy.  But there are lots
>of reasons why it doesn't work for some dogs in some situations.
>

Boy, is this ever true.  At the time I got my first Mal, I had an 8yr old mutt
and a 1 yr old Sib, neither of which would eat raw veggies of any kind.  When
the Mal came along, he would eat basically anything, but has a particular affinity
for raw veggies, especially lettuce.  As soon as I started tossing lettuce leaves
to the Mal and he gulped them down, the Sib and the mutt started eating them too.
Now, the entire pack loves their veggies (and fruits).  I was particularly
surprised that the 8yr old mutt who had rejected raw veggies his entire life
would suddenly start eating them just because the Mal did.

-- 
============================================================
Stephen R. Lee                 | 
OooWoo Racing Kennel           | I'd rather be driving sled
E-Mail: srlee@beta.lanl.gov    | dogs.
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From: dawn1@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (dawn.e.howe)
Subject: Re:    Help!!! How to train my 11-month-old golden not to jump!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:54:41 GMT

From article <92255.001858U49110@uicvm.uic.edu>, by <U49110@uicvm.uic.edu>:
> I bought a 9-month-old Golden for my family during early August.
> He is very "active" and smart, too.  For the past two months, from my
> point of view, he has adapted himself very quick, however, he still has two
> serious "problems":  biting and jumping.
> 
> 
> Before I decide to buy him, I didn't see him ever jumped on
> his former owner.  I don't know whether the reason why he is doing
> this now is because he is "still a baby" (according to my neighbors)
> or it is just simply because I didn't train him properly (Quite honestly,
> I don't even know how!) Last week, he knocked down my daughter, again !

Someone suggested the "knee in the chest" method.  I think the
positive reinforcement techniques work better than the negative for
long term behaviour, so here's my suggestion:

Always praise the dog when he is sitting, and only pet him when
he is sitting.  Especially when you come home and he's happy to
see you, tell him sit, and then pet him.  When he runs up to you
and looks like he is ready to jump, tell him, "sit", before he
gets near you (he can't jump if he's sitting).  Make him sit before
he gets his favorite things (dinner, walks, belly scratches...),
so that he knows he gets good things when he sits, and nothing when
he jumps.  When you're on a walk and a stranger wants to pet him,
have him sit, and let the stranger approach while he is sitting
(it is harder to walk up to a stranger and have him sit while the
stranger is within "jumping distance").

Teach him the word "off" (or whatever you want the command to be...
we use "off" to mean "don't touch with paws or mouth").  We taught
Sophie "off" by holding a treat near her mouth, and saying "off".
Everytime she tried to take it, we repeated "off", lightly bonked
her snout, or just pushed her back.  Then, start counting, and
talking soothingly "good off, good dog...", everythime she pawed
or tried to eat the treat, we started counting over.  First trying
to get her to understand "off" for a couple seconds then longer.
Say "ok" or "take it" to be the release (actually start the exercise
with a few "say the release and give the treat") and let her have
the treat.  Whenever your dog jumps, tell him "off", and praise
him when he sits.  Don't use the word "down" if that's the command
you use for "lay down".  He'll get confused.

Hope this helps
Dawn Howe
ps.  don't let him get into bad habits "because he is a baby".
We started puppy temperment classes (they teach you how to improve
the temperment of your dog to make it a better companion... don't bite,
don't bark, don't jump, simple obedience commands, etc) when
Sophie was 13 weeks, but the instructor said some people start much
earlier.  She can sit, down, stay etc. with commands or hand signals,
and she is now 4 months old.  We still are working on the biting.
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From: rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (r l taylor)
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:45:21 GMT

In article <9SEP92.17193198@wums.wustl.edu> trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu writes:

>	OH Has anyone out there had a portrait taken with their dog?  I
>don't mean the Santa and doggie picture but a real studio-serious picture.
>A friend of mine did once-I thought it was sorta weird at the time but I'm
>considering it for our first professional portrait. Oh yea- I mean dogs
>that are pets only- not the show dogs etc where I can see a need.

My aunt has made a tradition of this with her collies.  Years ago, she
had a beautiful portrait taken of Rebel (I guess when she realized that
he wouldn't be around forever.)  Later, when Sandy started going downhill,
she had a portrait done of her, also.  Just a few months ago, Maggie
joined the "Hall of Fame", even though she was not yet 2.  :-( (She died
of lympho-sarcoma.)

Of course, when my cousins were little, my aunt would have a portrait done
each year of the 3 boys and Rebel, for their photo-Christmas cards.  Me, I
plan to have a shot of the DoberPuppies gracing my QSL cards (used to
confirm Amateur radio contacts) when I finally get around to ordering them.

Roberta
...and the 'Pups...
From: krattige@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kim Krattiger)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:33:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Akitas and Sleep
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

Well, I don't know about the breed as a whole, but all my Akita does is sleep.
She is quite a bit older, about 11 years, but all she does is eat, scratch 
and sleep.  At least when we are just hanging around the house.  She does
love to out for walks, and will play occasionally, but other than that,
forget it - she's sleepin'.

Sound like a great life to me!
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Opinions about ProPlan
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525

TO: walls@inland.com

WA>to Iams or Eukanuba. Am I doing anything wrong? The reason I have always
WA>feed them lite dog food is that I'm paranoid of them having back problems.
WA>I too have noticed that ProPlan does have an oily feel to it. I also give
WA>them a liquig vitamin supplement like, Linatone Plus, FA liquid, or Nutrader
WA>I also give them Pet Tabs as a treat. Am I overdoing it?? Snuggles, the 1 yr
WA>old is very petite, weighing about 10 pounds. Bucky, the 2 yr. old has a
WA>big bone frame, he weighs betewwn 13-15 pounds. Any help or suggestions woul
WA>be greatly appreciated.

Mini-Doxies usually weigh under 11 lbs. So I would say that yours are
probably within their correct weight. My travelin' buddy raises them and
the one thing she is always careful about is the jumping on and off
things. If you watch them jump you will see that the back tends to flip
slightly forward when they jump and if it goes to far this can cause an
injury to the back. Just don't let them jump off or onto anything higher
than the couch. Nancy does not allow her dogs, to even jump on the bed.
They will sit next to it until she picks them up and she puts them on
the bed. Back problems in Doxies is heriditary so you might check with
the breeder to see if she has had any problems. There are lines out
there to avoid as they are prone to back problems usually compressed
disks.
Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: Re: Muzzle Training?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 07:18:27 GMT


In article <17t7rsINNntv@rodan.UU.NET> lorelei@rodan.UU.NET (Lorelei Horner) writes:
[stuff deleted]
==> PREVENT her from chewing the carpet, we taped
==> it to the floor with duct tape. She removed the tape from the 
==> floor and when I returned home, I found her covered in it.
==> 
==> I was as careful as possible removing it from her fur, but I
==> *KNOW* it hurt her.
==> 
==> I would NEVER recommend taping a dog's mouth shut with this VERY
==> sticky stuff...it's just down right CRUEL!!
==> 
i don't know about the taping-the-mouth training technique,
but if it is valid, i would think vet-wrap would be a much
better material than duct tape.  vet-wrap is the brightly
colored bandaging material they use these days -- it's not
sticky, but sticks to itself.  you can get it in the horse
section of the feed store, or i've seen similar stuff at the
drug store marketed as "atheletic wrap" or something.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: v019nlpc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew L Paley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: re:Bouviers
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I used to own a Bouvier when I was about 10 years old.  It was the best
dog in the world (imho).  She was very obedient, and was very protective.  I 
feel she was an extremely beautiful dog.
	My only problem is I do not know much about other Bouviers and someday I
would like to own another one (when I move out of the dorms at college).
	So if anyone knows any info about these fine specimens of canines,
please post it or send it e-mail to me.

						Thanx,
							Andrew
From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Black GSDs
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:57:09 GMT
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Organization: Materials Research Lab


As the time approaches for us to bring Siegfriend home (like FRIDAY!)
I am beginning to think. The breeders say it looks like he's going to
stay black and that it's not a common color. Are black GSDs THAT
rare? I didn't see many in the books, but then, not a lot of them had
good photographs so I could tell.  Are black GSDs banned from the
show ring like the white ones? They told us he wasn't show 
quality, conformation wasn't right, but I forgot to ask about the 
color.  I don't want to show him anyways, not in conformation
anyway, maybe in obedience, depends on  a lot of stuff. They
mentioned that he could bring in a lot of money as a stud just
because he was black, well, we were going to get him neutered
anyways but just out of curiousity, would he really?

Well, thanks in advance for all responses!!!

Kay Schlumpf
 
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Wife to Peter, the Patient; Mommy to Baeki, the Happy Cocker Spaniel
and Siegfried, the soon-to-arrive Cuddly Black German Shepard; 
Owned by Pixel, the Cuddly Siamese and Dante, the Quilter's Cat. Also
Quilter, Collector of Model Horses, and Horse Fiend! 
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From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: rawhide question
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:50:08 GMT
Distribution: na

In <1992Sep15.153022.9394@xyzoom.info.com> rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach) writes:

>Rawhide is indigestible, right?  So if a dog ingests rawhide, it will
>not contribute to weight gain?

Well, that's not really the problem.  The problem is that rawhide can
cause your dog to choke (especially if it undoes one knot, swallows
that end and is then plugged by the remaining knot).  Some dogs wind
up with digestive upsets because they can neither digest nor pass the
rawhide.  If you're looking for low-cal treats, try broccoli or
cauliflour stems, carrots, etc.

--Cindy


--
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The rec.pets.dogs FAQ -- all eight parts -- is available via ftp to
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is a mail server, email me for details.

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From: parker@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Jim Parker)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: pit bull?
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:50:51 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science

In article <1992Sep6.064753.28211@infonode.ingr.com> bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
>
>>Please excuse my ignorance here.
>>Can somebody kindly explain to me the difference 
>>between a Pit Bull and a Staffordshire Terrier.
>
>There are two kinds of Staffordshire Terriers:  The Staffordshire
>Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier.  The former
	... more on Staffs and AmStaffs

The short answer is 'almost none'. Amstaffs can be registered with the UKC
as pit bulls (APBT) also, although this does not always go the other way.

I agree that they are mostly nice dogs, but have had a lot of bad press.
While Staffs are relatively common, pit bulls are not recognized as a breed
in most places (although they are mentioned specifically in anti-dog legislation
in almost all cases - go figure).

Jim Parker
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From: bradav@auto-trol.com (Brad Davidson)
Subject: Show Brags
Originator: bradav@bradav
Keywords: New Champion
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:47:05 GMT

These weekend I finished my Championship on my Tibetan Mastiff
ATMA Ch. Denali's Dazzling in Black

I now really appreciate the dog show system a lot better.  

Once I finished my Championship on the first day, that left room for
other dogs to win points even if they did not take any thing more than
winners dog or winners bitch so they will get thier championship some
day.  I took Best Opposite Sex on both days.

Brad Davidson


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From: hecht@hsi.com (Alice Hecht)
Subject: Re: Are Chows Lazy
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford, CT
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:49:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.182716.14431@sequent.com> jd@sequent.com (Jim Duckering) writes:
>I have a 6.5 month old Chow who is about as lazy a dog as I have
>ever seen.  We take him on frequent walks, but he just waddles along.
>When we call him he strolls at a lesiure .000005 mph  Our Chows
>always this lazy?????

My in-laws chow is 6 years old and has always been very "lazy".  I think
it's their nature.  When we got our Boxer puppy recently, we thought Maxi
(the chow) would perk up a bit and be interested in playing/running/anything.
But nope!  She wants nothing to do with the fiesty puppy.  Our puppy has
tried everything to get Maxi going.  He barks AT her, jumps on her, runs
around in circles.  Nothing gets that dog aroused unless the puppy gets too
close in which case Maxi growls for the puppy to back off.  Oh well...

Alice
From: sparkle@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:25:34 GMT

In article <15224@borg.cs.unc.edu> wagner@weiss.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner) writes:
>>someone other than their current spouse that I had WALLETS made of our
>>labrador.  
>
>I think you're going to get some e-mail from PETA...
>
>
>Mike
>

Mike,

Where oh where is your smiley???

Pat

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