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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:12:00 EST
From:         "Bill Verity (814) 865-4758" <WHV@PSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Subscriptions/mail from invalid BITNET nodes

From time to time we get subscription or information requests that appear to
be from a bitnet node but aren't.  I imagine that they always come in via
mail.  We have a local node that sometimes causes this problem.  It is
iris.psu.edu.  Sometimes mail comes out of this node with the from line
indicating only IRIS.  I see it later when it bounces from the bitnet node
of the same name.  At any rate ...  I have two questions.

1.  Once I'm aware of messages coming from such a node, can I alert LISTSERV
to reject them and send them to me.  I'd like to try to figure out where it
is coming from and send them a note suggesting that they correct their mail
configuration.

2.  Wouldn't if be possible to LISTSERV to detect this immediately.  It
thinks it is sending to a BITNET node but it isn't in any tables.  Can I set
a switch to request that listserv not send anything to a bitnet node that
doesn't exist.  I suppose this might cause some premature rejections around
the time when routing tables change.
From: ERIC@SEARN.BITNET (Eric Thomas)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.lstsrv-l
Subject: Re: still a bug with 17e?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:14:10 GMT
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              18 Nov 1992 13:35:44 CST from "Forum on LISTSERV release 1.7"
              <LSTSRV-L@SEARN>

On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:35:44 CST Landy Manderson <USTS034@UABDPO> said:

>On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:47:15 EDT Helen P. Nulty said:
>>The problem is specific to MUSIC (it works fine from CMS).  From MUSIC,
>>if I add F=MAIL to the GET request the file is delivered properly.
>>Before 17e we did not have to do this.  We made modifications
>>to our RSCS to support our MUSIC node, SLUMUS, all of which worked
>>before 17e.  Below is a sample of the UNDELIVERABLE MAIL.
>
>Is it possible that your modifications (or MUSIC) are expecting the
>NETDATA tags to be in a particular order?  Eric is now generating the
>same tagdata as a CMS SENDFILE, but it is not in the same order.  If
>something on your end is expecting the 4th and 5th tagdata to always be
>destination node and userid (instead of checking the tagdata keys), then
>it would be confused by the new LISTSERV output.

Indeed. In the hope that it helps  diagnosing the problem, here is a dump
of the headers  generated by DMSDDL and LISTSERV (with  17E-001o) for the
same input file:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
                             DMSDDL headers
INMR01:
 0042 (LRECL)
    2 0050 (hex)
 1011 (FNODE)
    5 SEARN
 1012 (FUID)
    1 L
 1001 (TNODE)
    5 SEARN
 1002 (TUID)
    4 ERIC
 1024 (FTIME)
   20 19921117202253000000
 102F (NUMF)
    4 00000001 (hex)
INMR02:
 102C (SIZE)
    8 0000000000001000 (hex)
 003C (DSORG)
    2 4000 (hex)
 0042 (LRECL)
    4 00000025 (hex)
 1028 (UTILN)
    7 INMCOPY
 0049 (RECFM)
    2 0002 (hex)
 0002 (DSNAM)
    1 A
    7 PROFILE
    4 EXEC
 102D (FFM)
    1 1
 1021 (LCHG)
   20 19920927003421000000
INMR03:
 102C (SIZE)
    8 0000000000001000 (hex)
 003C (DSORG)
    2 4000 (hex)
 0042 (LRECL)
    4 00000050 (hex)
 0049 (RECFM)
    2 0001 (hex)
INMR06:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            LISTSERV headers
INMR01:
 1011 (FNODE)
    5 SEARN
 1012 (FUID)
    1 L
 1001 (TNODE)
    5 SEARN
 1002 (TUID)
    1 L
 1024 (FTIME)
   14 19921117205159
 102F (NUMF)
    1 01 (hex)
 0042 (LRECL)
    1 50 (hex)
INMR02:
 1028 (UTILN)
    7 INMCOPY
 0002 (DSNAM)
    1 A
    7 PROFILE
    4 EXEC
 102D (FFM)
    1 1
 1021 (LCHG)
   14 19920927003421
 0042 (LRECL)
    4 00000025 (hex)
 003C (DSORG)
    2 4000 (hex)
 0049 (RECFM)
    2 0002 (hex)
 102C (SIZE)
    4 00000000 (hex)
INMR03:
 003C (DSORG)
    2 4000 (hex)
 0049 (RECFM)
    2 0002 (hex)
 102C (SIZE)
    4 00000000 (hex)
 0042 (LRECL)
    1 50 (hex)
INMR06:
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From: ERIC@SEARN.BITNET (Eric Thomas)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.lstsrv-l
Subject: Re: Possible 1.7E Bug
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:30:44 GMT
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              17 Nov 1992 13:41:50 EST from "Forum on LISTSERV release 1.7"
              <LSTSRV-L@SEARN>

I need either an  MVS account and basic instructions about  how to log in
and attempt to receive files, or someone  to try to receive files for me.
A closer look at the documentation  reveals that a thing known as INMNUMF
is required in the INMR01 record, although  it is in the list of optional
fields under  the description of INMR01  and I had thus  ignored it. This
could be the missing bit.

  Eric
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.lstsrv-l
Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:06:10 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
              16 Nov 1992 10:03:45 CST from "Forum on LISTSERV release 1.7"
              <LSTSRV-L@SEARN>

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:03:45 CST THE GAR <GLWARNER@SAMFORD> said:

>What do I have to do to make a List LDBASE searchable?

Keep archives. It becomes automatically searchable.

  Eric
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:43:35 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Large list processing (NAVIGATE@UBVM)
              16 Nov 1992 13:50:00 EST from "Forum on LISTSERV release 1.7"
              <LSTSRV-L@SEARN>

On    Mon,    16    Nov     1992    13:50:00    EST    Alexander    Dupuy
<dupuy@TIEMANN.CS.COLUMBIA.EDU> said:

>10,000 recipients  just seems like  a bit too  much for a  mailing list.
>Even if you could split the INTERBIT load  up a bit, it would still be a
>tremendous waste  of resources to be  sending all those copies  of mail.
>Netnews  was  designed  for  exactly   these  sorts  of  hugely  popular
>discussion  groups, and  is very  efficient  at getting  copies of  many
>messages  to thousands  of subscribers.  With 10,000  subscribers, there
>should be no difficulty getting enough support to create the newsgroup.

I'm afraid I don't follow the logic. Apart from the fact that the average
distribution takes one  order of magnitude less resources  on BITNET than
on the Internet (and that's quoting an *average* reduction factor - for a
list of  this size the  difference would be  even bigger), usenet  is not
going to save any bandwidth if there are only 10,000 people interested in
the information, as the postings will be sent to a lot more hosts than it
would with the list. Furthermore  the simplified procedures for getting a
new newsgroup  are at best  a pain in the  chairwarmer, and I  won't even
begin to mention the traditional ones. This list was apparently set up to
distribute  announcement/digest type  messages,  rather  than to  solicit
discussions. The only problem is that the Internet recipients all fall on
the same  host, and that can  be a problem  if that machine is  loaded or
poorly connected. I wouldn't know - this is for Jim to judge.

>it should  be possible to  split the  discussion group into  three parts
>gatewayed together, with  2000 subscribers to a  BITNET peered LISTSERV,
>2000 subscribers to an Internet  peered Unix LISTSERV, and the remaining
>6500 subscribed to a Usenet newsgroup.

May I ask  what adding a unix so-called-LISTSERV Internet  list would buy
you? I  realize I am sounding  dense, but I simply  don't understand what
there  is to  gain  from  splitting a  perfectly  working  list into  two
separate lists using different, incompatible software and then attempting
to  somehow  reconcile  the  whole   mess,  especially  if  postings  are
infrequent.  The  LISTSERV  backbone  happily delivers  4-6  millions  of
messages a day and few sites ever complain about resulting CPU or network
load. The only issue is what happens  to private mail on the poor machine
which suddenly gets 8,500 recipients to handle, and if it is a problem it
should be easy to peer the list.

  Eric
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Organization: University of Antwerp - UFSIA - Faculteit Pol. & Soc. Wet.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:09:06 SET
From:         Lode Goukens <PS890866@FPSW.UFSIA.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: TEST
Comments: To: Electronic Data Interchange Issues <EDI-L@uccvma.ucop.edu>
              19 Nov 1992 07:23:51 +0100 from <mingdong.yan@CNLAB.NCI.CRN.CN>

My mail to you was undelivered last time
Greetings
Lode Goukens
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:50:00 LCL
From:         "B.Eckenfels" <UK4K@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TEST

-----------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
Well,

>
> Is the links well, I have not receive any information from EDI-L for
> a long time.
there is not much talk on this NET.
The last Message I received was:

  Subject: EIDX meeting
  From:    Dave Kearn
  Date:    Nov. 5th

Hope this will help you!

CU  ...SOMETIMES                                                         +------
---- S-MAIL -----+-------------------------------------------------------+  ME:
BERND  ECKENFELS    PHONE: +7257 / 3817  (VIA VOICE)                    +------
WITTUMSTRASSE 13   BITNET  : UK4K@DKAUNI2.BITNET                         O O
W7520 BRUCHSAL 4   INTERNET: UK4K@IBM3090.RZ.UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE             !
 G E R M A N Y                               .............               ===
-----------------+--(HGTTG:)-->MACHT'S GUT... UND DANKE FUER DEN FISCH<--+------
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:11:38 EST
From:         "Michael S. Hines" <MSHINES@FREH-03MS.ADPC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:      EDI / HIBCC
Comments: To: edi-l@uccvma.ucop.edu

Is anyone here familiar with HIBCC - The Helath Industry Business
Communications Council?

They had a meeting in July in Chiago where many new standards and needs
were discussed.  If any one is familiar with this group, I'd like to chat
with you.

Thx.
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:17:47 EST
From:         "Michael S. Hines" <MSHINES@FREH-03MS.ADPC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:      TQM Study
Comments: To: EDI-L@uccvma.ucop.edu

"TQM Is Not for Everybody, Study Finds" are the headlines in a side bar in
the November 1992 NACUBO Business Officer (pp 9).

Ernst & Young in cooperation with the American Quality Foundation gathered
data from 584 companies in the U.S., Canada, Germany, and Japan.

The study raised doubts about the univeral effectiveness of "total
quality" programs aimed at improving organizational management.

The "Best Practices Report" found that the success of certain practices
depends on a company's current performance.

The study did not include data from higher education.

Copies of the report are available from ASQC at 1-800-248-1946 for $50 ea.

<This is not a paid political announcement - just for your information>
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:00:13 -0700
From:         Dick Toews <DPTOEWS@BCSC02.BITNET>
Subject:      TEST

Yes, your info came through all right.

Regards
Dick Toews, Senior Systems Manager, Purchasing Dept
B.C. Liquor Distribution Branch             Phone (604) 660 0942
3200 E. Broadway, Vancouver, B.C. V5M 1Z6     FAX (604) 660 9381
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:53:29 EST
Reply-To:     Kostas Kyriakopoulos <kostas@CAT.RPI.EDU>
From:         Kostas Kyriakopoulos <kostas@CAT.RPI.EDU>
Subject:      Searching for Grad Students...
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

O Nikos Papanikolopoulos mou zhthse na prow0hsw to parakatw stin lista


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From npapas@cs.umn.edu Wed Nov 18 01:17:32 1992
To: kostas@cat.rpi.edu
Subject: Kwsta mporeis na steileis auto sto Hellas?
Status: RO



Filoi kai files,
  Psahnw gia 2-3 foithtes pou endiaferontai gia Ph.D. studies se Computer
Science. Oi periohes einai Robotics, Computer Vision, Real_time Operating
Systems kai Applications (Traffic Control). Thelw atoma ta opoia
na ehoun thewrhtiko kai peiramatiko background. Foithtes apo thn Ellada
einai epishs euprosdektoi. Prosferontai kala RA me lefta eksafalismena
gia ta epomena 2-3 xronia.

To Robotics Lab sto University of Minnesoat ehei ena PUMA560, ena mobile
robot (LABMATE), several cameras kai SPARC workstations. Sto telos tou hronou
tha ehoume kai ena DATACUBE me sveral MAX860 boards (a real-time vision system).


An endiafereste sovara, epikoinwnhste mazi mou:

Nikos Papanikolopoulos
Department of Computer Science
University of Minnesota
4-192 EE/CS Building
200 Union Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455

phone: (612)-625-0163
fax: (612)-625-0575
e-mail: npapas@cs.umn.edu


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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 11:20:22 EST
Reply-To:     Spyros Lazaris <SPYROS@VTVM1.BITNET>
From:         Spyros Lazaris <SPYROS@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Nea apo Kosyfopedio kaneis?

Kalhmera,
Molis akoysa apo filo edv sto blacksburg oti h katastash sto Kosyfopedio einai
mallon tetamenh. Mhpvs exei kaneis poly prosfates plhrofories? To radio-arbyla
leei mexri kai gia dhlvseis E@<bert peri metakinhshs polytofylakhs sta synora.
Opoios jerei kati as mas fvtisei, elpizontas oti ta parapanv nea htan mono
radio-arbyla.
Filika,
Spyros Lazaris
Blacksburg, VA_
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:05:00 EST
Reply-To:     Panagiotis Menoudakis <menoudak@MACCS.DCSS.MCMASTER.CA>
Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was SDA106@PSUVM
From:         Panagiotis Menoudakis <menoudak@MACCS.DCSS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      Re: OI LEXREITES EPI TO ERGON....

Cc:
Bcc:

In article <9211181536.AA20254@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> you write:
>=====
>Spiros
>
>P.S. Ta suntrofia tou Lexreitn kai tou Malta pali katastrefoun dnmosia kai
>idiwtikn periousia stin Ellada. Einai oi idioi tupoi pou upostnrizoun tin
>anagnwrisn twn Skopiwn me to onoma Macedonia....

Se parakalo na mh synxeeis thn poytsa me th boyrtsa. Oi anthelhnnes poy ypo-

sthrizoyn thn anagnorish ton Skopion me to onoma Macedonia (poy prepei na
einai poly ligoi mes thn Ellada) den exoyn tipota na kanoyn me aytous poy
exontas ftasei sto aproxorhto diamartyrontai energa kata toy katesthmenoy
(poy as shmeiothei einai ayto poy gamhse thn ypothesh me ta Skopia kai pro-
seballe to ethniko aisthima ths Elladas).
Den yposthrizo kanena malta h opoiondhpote allo ap'aytoys toys typoy poy
mono gelia prokaloyn, alla na matheis na ksexorizeis ta pragmata metaksy toys
kai na mh bazeis sto idio kazani ayta pou se peirazoyn h poy soy eipan na se
peirazoyn.

                                TTG

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:25:51 LCL
Reply-To:     AKHS <PA25817@UTKVM1.BITNET>
From:         AKHS <PA25817@UTKVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      O TSELEMENTES...

Ego ksero toylaxiston periptwsh me dyo nekrous mpatsous kamenous mesa se
udercover ths asfaleias.........Agiou Dhmhtriou kai E0nikhs Amynas karfomenoi
Gia parakolou0hsh.O ka0enas eixe apo dyo pitsirikia...........................
To zhthma omos den einai posous nekrous eixe h ka0e pleyra alla h Bia apo monh
ths. Opws eipe kai M.Plwriths einai anandroi fasistes oi idioi..............



AKHS..........................................................HIGHLANDER
MR.OK?
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:16:31 GMT+0100
Reply-To:     theofilo@ENSTB.ENST-BRETAGNE.FR
From:         theofilo@ENSTB.ENST-BRETAGNE.FR
Subject: Apeillh polemoy & Skopia.
Comments: To: Hellas@uga.bitnet

  H idea ths apeilhs polemoy sta Skopia, pisteyo oti einai endeiksh
thrasydeilias. Ti allo eisai otan pas na ta baleis me ton adynato poy
soy antitithentai kai parablepeis ton dynatotero poy anoikta se prokalei
(Toyrkia) ;


 Oso gia to problhma toy onomatos prosopika to brisko teleios hlithio.
Oi Belgoi dhl. poy mia megalh perioxh ths xoras toys onomazetai
Loyksemboyrgo einai xazoi; H mhpos apla den einai 'kollhmenoi'; 'H oi
Galloi;  poy exoyn thn Bretannh toys dipla ap'thn Agglia... Poios zhthse

ksana Copyright & TradeMark ?

 H istoria poy mas mathan sto sxolio exei na kanei me kapoioys poy zhsan
prin 2000 xronia. Opos omos eipe kai o Levnidas se prohgoymeno mail,
etsi kai gv, den mporv na katalabv to ti sxesh exv me aytoys toys
anthrvpoys. (Kai den ksero an tha ithela na exo kai sxesh me kapoion
polemoxarh, lehlath, tyxodiokth poy oi sygxronoi ellhnes istorikoi ton
xarakthrizoyn 'mega' kai 'ekpolitisth' ... allo froyto omos ayto).


 To oti ta Skopia mas apeiloyn apla den stekei. Sto mellon mporei na mas
apeilhsei h Boylgaria, h Albania, 'isos kai h Libyh 'h ... h Italia.
Kanenas den mporei na pei kati gia to mellon. Pros to paron omos h
apeilh yparxei kai brisketai sta anatolika synora mas. Gi ayto kai tha
eprepe na anaptyksoyme oso mporoyme tis sxeseis mas me toys ypoloipoys
laoys kati poy mono ofelos mporei na ferei sto mellon.


 Pisteyo oti exoyme odhghthei se adieksodo. Dosame tosh megalh shmasia,

isos kai gia esvterikh katanalosh, se ena problhma poy einai ashmanto,
paralogo, kai xameno apo thn arxh. Gia osoys diafonoyn thelo na toys
rvthsv. Ti problepetai re paidia oti tha ginei;




                                                  Dionissis

                                                  Bretagne - France.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:43:08 -0500
Reply-To:     Anastassiades - Advanced Rotorcraft Technology / NASA Ames
              <tassos@ART.DNET.NASA.GOV>
From:         Anastassiades - Advanced Rotorcraft Technology / NASA Ames
              <tassos@ART.DNET.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Skopia - Xarths
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.bitnet@6913.DNET.NASA.GOV

Parathetw aytoysio, kata paraklhsh toy Zaphiri Xrhsthdh, ena mhnyma toy:

Tassos Anastassiades
Mountain View, CA

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From:   6913::"zaphiri@watson.ibm.com" 18-NOV-1992 07:50
To:     ART::tassos
Subj:   Re:      Skopia - xarths


In article <9211180145.AA24356@east.gsfc.nasa.gov>, you write:
> Subject: Greece reacts sharply to Skopje map of 'Greater Macedonia'

Taso, mia kai esteiles to arxiko a0rro re su, steile kai auto san
apanthsh se sxolio tou Petrou Bafeiadh, mia kai uparxei mia anakriveia
sto ar0ro pou vghke apo to clari.*.  Ekana ena followup sta net-news, alla
den kserw an telika 0a dhmosieutei, mia kai peirnw to Hellas spodarika
apo to usenet.

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From:         Serafim Efstratiadis <efstse@LTSSUN6.EPFL.CH>
Subject:      tourkin propagavda/diafnmiceis
Comments: To: Macedonia = Greece <macedonia@husc.harvard.edu>,
          HELLAS <hellas@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Comments: cc: Serafim Efstratiadis <efstse@ltssun3.epfl.ch>

>
>[avakoivwcn gia omilia peri Tourkias kai New World Order ctnv Agglia]
>
>       Kai meta theloume na polemhsoume me ypografes kai
>       biblia istorias! Kserete oloi posa ksodeyoun oi
>       Tourkoi kathe xrono gia propaganda.

Kai diafnmnceis. P.x. n Turkish Air exei olocelidn diafnmicn ce ola
ta periodika (Time, NewsWeek, Business Week, Fortune, etc) ce kaqe teuxos
twra teleutaia.

Serafeim.
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:02:54 PST
Reply-To:     Hatzigeorgiu <nickolas@PHYSICS.UCLA.EDU>
From:         Hatzigeorgiu <nickolas@PHYSICS.UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      Gewgrafika
Comments: To: hellas@uga.bitnet

Kala re paides arxisa va mperdeuomai! Epeidn kai o Swtnrns avefere kati gia
Ivdous, pnge pote o M.Aleksavdros stnv Ivdia; Eivai o Ivdos potamos
stnv Ivdia; Mnpws evvoeite Pakistav; (.n. kai Augavistav;). Mnpws aplws
evvoeite oti Pakistav kai Ivdia eivai to idio (mia pou sxetika "prosfata"
pnrav diazugio);;; Kserouv oi Ivdoi tns Ivdias to M.Aleksavdro; (av vai
tote mprabo mas!). Exw akousei gia "Ellnvistika" xwria sto Augavistav
alla oxi sto Pakistav (poso mallov stnv idia tnv Ivdia). Av kserei kaveis
perissotera as mas evvnmerwsei, va ma0aivoume kai kati.

Nikos, Ucla
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