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From: hoylen@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Hoylen Sue)
Subject: ChineseTalk fonts: What is NT/MT difference?
Keywords: ChineseTalk, Chinese, input methods
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:16:22 GMT

I am running ChineseTalk II on my Mac under System 7, and have installed
the additional fonts that were available for the original ChineseTalk
system.  I find double entries for each font, like MT-MingLight*DynaLab and
NT-MingLight*DynaLab, in my font menus.

Does anyone know what is the difference between the two fonts, and
is it a good idea to remove one set to tidy up my font menus?

Also, where can I find documentation on using the various input methods
(preferably in English).

Thanks.

Hoylen.

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From: jjaslow@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jason (Jazzie) Jaslow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Modem Tools
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:52:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


The other day I downloaded a variety of modem tools.  So many, in
fact, that I don't have a darn clue what any one specifically does, or
which one(s) I should use.  I have the following:  

Apple Modem tool
Hayes Modem tool
Zoom-Apple Modem tool
CCL Modem tool
CEPT Modem tool
Apple Modem tool 1.1.1.CCL
and  Kermit Tool GH

I have a Zoom 2400 modem, and I use it primarially to acces internet
(VT100), and I often Kermit so I think I should use the Kermit tool.
I would like to get the Xmodem tools also.  Anyone know where they are?


Thank you,

Jason T. Jaslow

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From: mjr@zoo.bt.co.uk (Mark J Ridley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Software to shut down and startup a ma
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:15:43 GMT
Reply-To: mjr@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Laboratories

In article 725898930@sfu.ca, parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn) writes:
>rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com (Greg Ferguson) writes:
>
>>to run to turn it on? It would be *very* dangerous software with much juju
>>which could startup a Mac which is off. I would be inclined to inspect my
>>CPU with an axe if I saw my machine turn itself on.
>
>Do take the time to investigate...
>There have been reports of ill fit of components that, given conditions, shorted
>or pressed the mechanism causing start up. Much to the consternation of the
>owner.
>
>Also, PowerBook coupled with appropriate modem can wake from sleep to answer
>call...
>
>Dale
>parkyn@sfu.ca


Also, there is an AfterDark module called (I think!) PowerDown 1.0. But this just shuts the machine down after a certain time of the computer not being used.

Mark Ridley.
mjr@zoo.bt.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Subject: Re: ATM, Suitcase and System 7.1?
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA  95131
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:10:55 GMT

In article <a76e3ecd@stefan.spn.com> stefan@stefan.spn.com writes:
>It's important to me, but my dealer doesn't know:
>
>Do System 7.1, Suitcase 2.1.2 and ATM 2.03 work together?
>If no: what can I do? (As far as I know, Adobe doesn't sell ATM 3.0?)

No, you need ATM 3.0 with System 7.1.  It's available for $7.50 from
Adobe (at least here in the States.)  The phone number and address are
even in the read me file that comes with System 7.1.  Suitcase must be
loaded *after* ATM 3.0.  This must be done by putting Suitcase in the
System Folder, but *not* in the Extensions sub-folder.

-- 
Chuck Fisher                                        (800) 359-7997 Work
ncselxsi system administrator                       (415) 964-2819 Home
uucp:  ...!netcom!ncselxsi!fisher
From: judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Mike Judson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: PB sleep and 7.1
Date: 11 Jan 93 05:16:07 GMT
Reply-To: judson@watserv.ucr.edu

I have a Powerbook 140 and it does not go to sleep automatically since
I have upgraded to 7.1.  Has anyone else had this problem?
If so, could you E-mail me any solutions.
Thanks. 

--
If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just go real limp, because 
maybe you'll look like a dummy and people will try to catch you 
because, hey, free dummy.

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: deguzman@after (A A DeGuzman)
Subject: Look for Alarm Clock type DA . . .
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:32:27 GMT

I am looking for an Alarm Clock type DA that does *not* allow one to change
the time or the date or set an alarm of any kind. Just report time & date.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
--
Alan A. DeGuzman                  "People pay more attention to you when they
Calculus&Mathematica               think you're up to something."
DISCLAIMER: "The University
can't afford my opinions."         - Calvin from 'The Indispensible C&H'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: GAYNOR@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor)
Subject: HELP: PB 160 w/out disks.
Organization: The Ohio State University - OCES
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:06:05 GMT
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<sigh>

Withough going into overmany details, I have a PowerBook 160 on loan
to me.  It's an eval unit, so all I have is the CPU and the AC
adaptor.  That's it - no floppies, no HDI-30 cable, zip.

The PB 160 is not recognizing its internal hard drive, and starts up
with the ole' question-mark-in-a-floppy icon. (It was given to me in
this state, so no sweat on losing files at least.)

It refuses to boot from the System 7.1 disks that I have (from the
commercial Personal Update Kit.)  It's my guess that this is due to
the lack of the 'enabler' for the 160.  Of course, even if it did
boot, the System 7.1 disks have no installation selection for the 160
- only for the 14x and 170.

So - where do I go from here?  Can someone out there with a PB160
email me the enabler for it, so I can try to create a bootable disk? 
Or does anyone else have a suggestion?

Finally - don't bother to respond to this (either email or followup)
after 5pm EST (US) on Jan 6th, 1992.  By then, the point will be moot.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

/sig

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From: tjchung@hercules.acpub.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Need Chinese OS for System 7.1
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:18:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.
Originator: tjchung@raphael.acpub.duke.edu

Hi there,

Can someone tell me how I could obtain
the Chinese OS that works with System 7.1?

Please email me...Thanks ahead...TJ























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Fuqua School of Business, Duke University
Internet: tjchung@acpub.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cole@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Sandra Stewart-Cole)
Subject: Re: How to create partition for MacOS with Apple HD SC setup?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:38:35 GMT

In <C0E6zB.L2H@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> chang hsu liu 
<cliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:


>Dear netters,

>        I was trying to create partitions using Apple HD SC setup in vain.
>I can create partition for Aux or other misc type but it won't show on
>the desktop. I would prefer not to use 3rd party formatting software. Is
>it possible to create partitions using Apple HD SC Setup?

>Thanks in advance.

>Peter Liu
>cliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu

Don't thank us yet... yet answer is an emphatic NO.

AppleHD SC Setup is simply not capable of creating or dealing with multiple Mac
partitions. If you want to do that, you need some other program. My favorite is
SilverLining from LaCie, but it is pretty expensive unless you buy a LaCie 
drive, and my preference is very subjective. Objectively, FWB's Hard Disk 
Toolkit (aka HDT) is a more feature-packed program, capable of bot only 
creating multiple partitions, but of doing so much low-level SCSI stuff you can
purposefully ruin your drive. (not a program to be toyed with in ignorance) and
Drive7 is another well-reviewed program at a lower price than either.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: glf@oclc.org (Greg Feldman-Hill)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:17:30 CDT
Subject: Re: Experience with StuffIt Spacesaver?

suhler@pollux.usc.edu (Paul Suhler) writes:
: Has anyone tried out StuffIt Spacesaver?  I'd like to run it on a
: Mac II under 7.01 and maybe even on a PB 100.
: 
: Thanks,
: 
: Paul Suhler

I just bought StuffIt Deluxe (which includes SpaceSaver).  It is quite
an impressive package.  For the money, it is one of the best pieces of
software I've purchased. 

I'm running it on a Mac LCII, 6 Meg, System 7.0.1/TuneUp 1.1.1. with
an 80 Meg hard drive.

SpaceSaver can operate both invisibly or by direct manual control.  In
fact, there are many ways to automatically compress files & folders &
disks.  You can use MagicMenu (a new finder menu) to do the job, or
you can simply flag files & folders with special (user defined) prefix
or suffix on the names.  I've set mine up to compress anything with
(s) on the end.  You can also select items NOT to compress ever (using
similar methods).  What I think is even better is that if I name (or
rename) a file with '.sit' on the end, SpaceSaver automatically
creates a StuffIt archive out it, without loading the StuffIt
application.  Very cool!  Of course, how it handles stuffing and
unstuffing of archives is user configurable as well.

And it is very fast.  I don't have a hot-rod of a Mac, but compression
of a a quarter-meg folder takes but a second or two.  And
decompression of a file or application during open is seemingly
sub-second.  I am getting somewhere between 30% to 40% savings on most
files.

The combination of StuffIt and SpaceSaver make this a great utility.
It is fast, and is as transparent as you choose it to be.  I recommend
it most highly.

FYI, I'm just a new & very happy Aladdin customer.

--

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From: glf@oclc.org (Greg Feldman-Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Experience with StuffIt Spacesaver?
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:06:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
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From: Mark A. Hacker <hacker@uts.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Suitcase & Locked fonts on a Server
Date: 12 Jan 1993 06:29:03 GMT
Organization: UTS
Distribution: world
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X-XXMessage-ID: <A778B0991102DCDE@222.220.25.138.in-addr.arpa>
X-XXDate: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:30:01 GMT

Here is a tough question which I hope someone can answer.

I have all the Letrafont range of fonts on our server. I have to lock
them to stop piracy (part of our agreement with Letraset) - not that
AppleShare is so secure, but still......

The Local Hard Disks have their own smaller set of fonts. I want to give
access to the server fonts, and we did this with Suitcase. One of the
great things with the old version of Suitcase is that you could lock it
and any font added (say from the server) would be forgotten on next
startup. This is real important in a Lab situation.

Now with Suitcase 2.XX it has lost this ability, now you can create
"permanent" sets etc. Fifth Generation say there is no answer (yet) but
that they have noted the question and will look into it.

Does anyone have a solution? Or a better idea as to accessing the fonts.
Oh, I tried to make aliases, and whilst you could make them, aliases and
fonts don't work together.

Thanks for the thoughts.


Mark A. Hacker
Design Computing Unit
School of Design
University of Technology,Sydney.
Australia
Phone (02) 330 2917 Fax (612) 330 2933
Alink: AUST0475     Internet: hacker@uts.edu.au
From: david_hickson@lincoln.gpsemi.com (David Hickson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: How can I change my Hard Disk Icon?
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:52:00 GMT
Organization: GEC Plessey Semiconductors (UK)
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7771F75F70170AE@mac_nob4.lincoln.gpsemi.com>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 12:58:29 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how I can change the Hard Disk Icon and Title on my
Mac IIci (7.0.1 l)?
I can just about use ResEdit, if needs be.

Thanks, Dave.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Subject: Re: Imagewriter II printing in background
Keywords: ImageWriter Background
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:04:19 GMT

Yes SuperSpool will let you print in the background to your Imagewrtier in
System 6.07. 

Does anyone know if it works in System 7.1 or 7.0.1 ? I have SS v.5.0.

Thanks,

Jim
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: sad mac error HELP
Date: 5 Jan 93 02:59:19 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Apple

In article <1992Dec22.134440.56361@cybermac.sadye.emba.uvm.edu>,
Erik_Sherwood@cybermac.sadye.emba.uvm.edu wrote:
> 
> I don't understand the error code myself, but any sad mac error code means you
> have a serious hardware problem. You should take the machine to your local
> Apple retailer and have it checked out by a Apple certified technician. Be prepared
> for a large bill (one of the circuits in the green plastic part of the
> motherboard may have gone bad, or one of the chips, etc. If so the entire
> board must be replaced.)


Err, about 75% of the Sad Macs I run into are just corrupted
System Software. It's not always hardware. First try booting
from a floppy.

Apgar@Apple.com   |   Eric Apgar  alias  Gar   |   I said it, NOT Apple.
From: tstiller@sarnoff.com (Tom Stiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: ATM, Suitcase and System 7.1?
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:08:25 GMT
Organization: David Sarnoff Research Center

Disclaimer:

In article <a76e3ecd@stefan.spn.com>, stefan@stefan.spn.com (Stefan Zingg) writes:
> 
> It's important to me, but my dealer doesn't know:
> 
> Do System 7.1, Suitcase 2.1.2 and ATM 2.03 work together?
> If no: what can I do? (As far as I know, Adobe doesn't sell ATM 3.0?)
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 

First, I used the above combination on my Quadra 700 with no problem.
Second, the ReadMe file that came with 7.1 gave you the 800 number to call
to order ATM 3.0 w/Adove Garamod fonts for $7.50 "shipping & handling".
I did that too, no hassle, no problems.

Tom Stiller
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:26:22 CDT
Subject: Re: ResEdit 2.1.1 and window placement? HELP!!

In <75984@apple.apple.COM> ira@Apple.COM (Ira Ruben) writes:

>alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro) writes:

>>Well here we go again...I have ResEdit 2.1.1 on a Mac SE/30 8/200
>>running System 7.1, many inits (oops extensions).

>>I have the res templates for disassembly installed (the ones that
>>give a "modules" menu). Not sure where I got them from...I think it may
>>have been from apple.com or sumex. I used to have a full page display. Now
>>I have a shorter display. When I had the FPD I used to use it to display
>>the "code disasembly" window full page. Now I'm back on a shorter display
>>and my "code disasembly" window falls off the bottom of the screen. There
>>is no zoom box on these windows so I cannot get them back up.

>>I use 2 screens, I put the 9" above the now-shorter new display and moved
the
>>code disasembly window up (till I could get at the size controls). Trouble
>>is, after quitting ResEdit, the new window size/position was not saved.
>>I tried to get into "preferences" but that crashes my mac.

>>Any ideas? I may have to go back to an unmodified ResEdit and start over!!

>I am not sure where you got the CODE editor and what version it is (probably
>2.4 from a developer CD or 2.9 from an ETO), and it's been a while since
>I looked into things, but I believe if you can get into ResEdit, open the
>ResEdit Preferences file in the Preferences folder (in the System Folder),
>then delete the 'ilrP' resource.  That's where the CODE editor remembers its
>prefs.  It will revert to its default settings and recreate the ilrP
>resource.

>The window position "logic" has changed a number of times (certainly after
>2.4) and it tries to be "intelligent" about moving its prefs among systems
>with different monitor configurations (or vice versa).  Maybe one of these
>versions will get it right :-).  At any rate, the newest version is 2.12 and
>will appear on the next ETO.  By the way there are no further versions planned.
>2.12 was just "sitting on the shelf" (since last March) so I decided to let 
>it out on the next ETO.

>Ira Ruben
>Apple Computer, Inc.


Thanks Ira, resediting the resedit preference file worked. Will version
2.12 be on apple.com? I don't get developer CDs (and don't have a CD
device!!). However the mac makes a GREAT ftp internet host (using slip).

--alen ... trying to turn a Sparc into a Flame
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From: alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: ResEdit 2.1.1 and window placement? HELP!!
Keywords: help resedit window position
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:30:45 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: phaedrus@halcyon.com (Mark Phaedrus)
Subject: Re: disappearing system folder components
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:38:36 GMT

In article <C0MouM.BJu@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cole@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Sandra Stewart-Cole) writes:
>Elizabeth,
>        You don't mention what system version you are running. This sounds a 
>bit like the very serious and real bug in System 7.0.1 and 7.0 that effective-
>ly hides files. It is fixed in 7.1 or by using the Tuneup from Apple (the 
>correct version for this fix is 1.1.1) The process of repair may include doing
>a backup/reformat/restore on the affected drive. 

     There's now a fix to the disappearing-files bug that's not nearly as
drastic as backup/reformat/restore.  If you don't have System 7.1, run, don't
walk, to ftp.apple.com and grab /dts/mac/sys.soft/hdsc/disk-first-aid-7-1.hqx
from there.  Disk First Aid 7.1 is supposed to repair the disappearing-folders
situation (unlike System 7 Tune-up 1.1.1, which prevents the bug from occurring
in the first place but does nothing to fix folders that have already been
messed up before it was installed).

>        If that is not a possibility (i.e. if you aren't now and never have 
>run an un-tuned 7.0 or 7.0.1) 

     The way I understand it, this bug was also present in at least some
System 6 versions; System 7 just caused it to occur _much_ more often.  So if
your drive has the disappearing-files symptoms, it's worth trying Disk First
Aid 7.1, even if you've never run System 7.

     BTW, Disk First Aid is about the only System 7.1 piece that's on
ftp.apple.com.  If you know any vaguely-unscrupulous Macintosh developers, the
latest Apple Developer CD has System 7.1 on it as well; I say "unscrupulous"
because the license agreement that comes with that disk says that you can only
use the 7.1 software on it to develop and test the 7.1-compatible programs
you're working on, and you can't give it away.  Thankfully, I can honestly say
that I'm working on a revolutionary new 7.x product even as I speak. :)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Extensions, not enablers! (was Re: System Enablers)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 04:42:56 GMT

I've mentioned this before, but I guess I'll say it again.

So far as I know, "system enablers" refers specifically to the files that
allow for compatibility on new Mac platforms. I think AppleScript,
QuickDraw GX, etc. will still be called "extensions". (I mean, we just got
done rewriting the Mac dictionary, what with "extensions" (INITs), "control
panels" (cdevs), "aliases", ad nauseaum. We don't need them changing these
terms all the time.)

In short, an enabler may be an extension, but an extension is NOT an enabler.

Jay (=

(who wants the language to stay as simple as possible...)