From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
Subject: Re: On Banning Private Discrimination
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:22:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Jul22.232231.25637@pony.Ingres.COM> rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger Leuthner) writes:
>In article <nkj8qls@fido.asd.sgi.com> dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.202834.16597@pony.Ingres.COM> rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger Leuthner) writes:
>>
>>>This has nothing to do with race, gender, sexuality.  It is becoming rather
>>>typical that this particular group is blamed for anything bad that
>>>was/is/will-be.
>>
>>It is rather typical that the group in power is blamed for exploiting
>>groups who are not in power.
>
>A group is not in power.  Individuals are in power.

Why is it that most of the individuals in power in the United States are
white heterosexual males?  

>It is rather typical
>that people who feel persecuted need a scapegoat so they can rally around
>the burning effigy of that scapegoat.  Have you heard of 'white heteros on
>bikes' or maybe 'the national assocation of white heterosexual males'?

You don't need an institution to be in a powerful/persecuting position.

>No, because there is no such arrangement.  It is you who are assigning
>some characteristic to white heterosexual males.

Nope.  It may be a case of cause and effect, but you must admit that
black males experience more harassment from police officers than white
males.  Right?  Now, it is not like there is an organization called "white
police officers who harass black males" but they still do it.

Not all white males are terrible people (some of my best friends are white
males ;-).  However, if you look at the people who have been running things,
and you look at the people who have been fucking things up, and you look
at the people who are leading us into disaster, what are they?  White
heterosexual males.

I will explain simply, so that you cannot misunderstand.

white males are in the most powerful position in american society.  It is
a cultural thing.  Because of this, it is much easier for a white male
to advance than it is for anyone else.  Because of this, there are more
white males in power positions.  These people are responsible for the
"state of the union".  These are the people who sexually harassed Anita
Hill in congress.  These are the people who are not acting on the AIDS
crises.  These are the people who are sitting around talking as our economy
gets worse and worse.  These are the people who are sitting around doing
nothing as the environment gets worse and worse.

white males are not necessarily the bad people in the power structure.
However, white males are the people in charge, and therefore, they are to
blame.


>The only accurate thing you can say about white heterosexual males is
>exactly that, they are white, heterosexual and male.


Wrong.  I have said many more accurate things.  You just insist on arguing
the converse of what I am saying.


>You are, it seems, exempt from any criticism when you proliferate stereotypes.

Wrong.  Very wrong.  As a gay man, who looks like a thug, I am subject to
many stereotypes.

>It I generate stereotypes about FWA's, will you care?

Many people have.  Many people will try.  I don't really give a shit if
they do.



FWA