HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "michael livsey" <michael.livsey@canrem.com>
Subject: hot files bulletin
Reply-To: "michael livsey" <michael.livsey@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:56:01 EST

<<***** On 10-08-92, MIKE KNOX wrote to MICHAEL LIVSEY: *****>>
// I think that having CRS filter the contents would be best, though,
// because there are often GIF's in the regular IBM file area as well
// as ZIP's in the Adult file area.
//
I quite agree. My program would definitely benefit from using a
conference specific listing. In fact, I'm designing it under this
assumption. That way, when CRS starts filtering it's files, I only
have to change a configuration file.

I'll be posting my program sometime next week (unless I get too stuffed
with turkey and can't fit in my programming chair :-) ).

Regards.
michael.livsey@canrem.com
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From: rmurray@netcon.smc.edu (Roger Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Koyaanisqatsi and other Glass works
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:54:21 GMT
Organization: Santa Monica College, Santa Monica, CA

In article <4788@disuns2.epfl.ch> SATELLITE@eldi.epfl.ch (Uncle Alias) writes:
>	Recently bought the Koyaanisqatsi soundtrack, by Philip Glass. Seems to
>be only EXTRACTS from the actual soundtrack (since the movie lasts for at least
>one hour and a half and the record is only half that long). So is there
>somewhere a full-sized soundtrack on CD, or is it just repetition?

I seem to recall periods of silence in the movie.  [It's been a while since I've
seen it, so I could be wrong.]  While I would normally doubt that they'd 
produce a partial soundtrack (especially when it says "soundtrack"), I recently
bought an allegedly complete soundtrack because of one song that particularly
moved me (the rest I couldn't care about).  Sure enough, the song was missing.
So I suppose anything's possible.

>	Plus, does any other Glass works compare to this one? I heard about
>another movie like Koyaanisqatsi, did he do the music as well?

Yes, it's called "Powaqqatsi".  I bought the music without having seen the film
and wasn't as happy with it as I thought I would be.  I'm going to see a live
performance of the music (in sync with the movie) in March.  I'm hoping the 
context will help me appreciate the music more.  :-)

As for comparably good music, I heartily recommend "1000 Airplanes on the Roof"
which is the music to a play by the same name.  The play is wonderful and the
music is equally so.
-- 
Roger Murray (rmurray@netcon.smc.edu)
Instructional Computing, Santa Monica College

TPU / K / RAOED / TH / RBGS / UR / AEU / KORT / RORT / ER / FPLT
From: ianb@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Ian Bennett)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:19:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Koyaanisqatsi and other Glass works
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage

Not knowing much about Glass and his music
I thought I would record a (video) transmission
of Powaqatsi (hmm, not sure of the spelling). Could
this be what you allude to?

The images, there is no dialog, centre around
'people at work' in many and varied locations,
eg surface mining in Africa. Sounds boring? Have
a peek then decide!

The music is superb, as is the documentary style
film footage. I would strongly reccommend checking
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Charter
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:30:57 GMT
Organization: Noxious Gase Dept, Coventry University

guru sez:
	can some kind soul please e-mail or post the charter for this
	group, since I can't decide whether or not I want to be susbscribed
	anymore.

	Thank you.
-- 
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     (___/ (___/ /     (___/   These mind-expanding drugs have given me so much
        /                      imagination, I'm hallucinating grey vividly....
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk                       Victor Lewis-Smith
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: onar@hsr.no (Onar Aam)
Subject: Jarre
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:15:46 GMT

Has there been any followup from the Norwegian Olympic Comitte on Jarre's
proposal on having the opening sereomy?


Onar.


QUIT
Onar.


Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: stilti@leland.stanford.edu (Tim Stilson)
Subject: Re: Vangelis Release Question
Organization: Stanford EE
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:36:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.182941.1@acad.drake.edu> aar001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>
>	Vangelis and the Conquest of Paradise album?  Sounds great!
>	I have about 14 of his albums (Collected from everwhere) my only
>	question to whoever hears it first is:
>
>		What album does it most closely resemble?
>
>	I loved all of his albums until THE CITY.  For some reason I dislike
>	this more than anything I have ever heard from him.  Lemme know when
>	you know!
>
>							Thanks a bunch!
>							Andy Russell
>							AAR001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
>

I haven't got the soundtrack CD yet, but from watching the move, I place it
in style somewhere between "Mask" and "Rhapsodies" (with Irene Papas).  There
are also alot of slower parts like the slow parts in "Bladerunner". On the
whole, I liked it alot.

Speaking of "The City", does anyone else think that certain parts of
"Bladerunner" sound like "The City"?


--Tim Stilson
stilti@leland.stanford.edu

Organization: Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:29:34 -0400 
From: Todd Keenan Bowman <tb0o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TD IN TROUBLE IN CHICAGO

>     Due to very poor ticket sales the Tangerine Dream show at the Riviera
>theatre in Chicago was moved to a much smaller venue, the Vic theatre.  This
>is a common move in Chicago and alot of times the show will go from the Vic to
>CANCELLED!  How has TD been selling tickets elsewhere around the country???

I don't know about the rest of the country, but, TD was scheduled to play at a
very small bar/nightclub in Pittsburgh this evening. I just found out this
morning that the show has been cancelled. Oh well...

I don't know what the reason for the cancellation was.

t
Xref: sparky rec.music.newage:3486 talk.religion.newage:4690 alt.dreams:3384
From: dnibby@asylum.UUCP (Dana Nibby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage,talk.religion.newage,alt.dreams
Subject: WTBWAW more
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:00:12 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.newage
Organization: Epilogue Technology Corp.

For sale: "Would the Buddha Wear a Walkman?" book by Judith
Hopper and Dick Teresi. This book is a good intro to mind
machines, brain toys, and other methods of consciousness 
alteration. 8 1/2 X 11, 255 pages. I want to sell the rest
of my copies (all brand new). Cover price is $16.95.
I'm selling them for $9.50 postpaid in the U.S. To reserve
a copy, send e-mail to: d_nibby@unhh.unh.edu
I'll send you a table of contents and ordering info.
From: rjp1@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (be here now)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: TD IN TROUBLE IN CHICAGO
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:34:08 GMT

)>Due to very poor ticket sales the Tangerine Dream show at the Riviera
)>theatre in Chicago was moved to a much smaller venue, the Vic theatre.  This
)>is a common move in Chicago and alot of times the show will go from the Vic to
)>CANCELLED!  How has TD been selling tickets elsewhere around the country???


Well, perhaps Edgar and Co. will take it as an indication that their new
"style" of music isn't as great as they think it is?

I'm a major fan of Tangerine Dream, from 1969-87.  Me and at least 10
other people that I know of, would've been the first in line for tickets
for the show in Chicago, but due to the fact that we all dislike their
current music so much, we decided to avoid the concert.  From the reviews
that I've read, we did the right thing.  Although that encore song might
have been a treat to hear.


--
Bob Pietkivitch     | "Moon, my long lost friend, is smiling from above."
rjp1@ihspa.att.com  |  -- Genesis, Stagnation 1970
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: astley@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (Tim Astley)
Subject: Re: Mike Oldfield
Keywords: Venetian Blind Effect
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:42:13 GMT

tron2@erich.triumf.ca (MILES,WILLIAM) writes:

>	I just got Tubular Bells II and reference is made to the "Venetian
>Blind Effect".  Is this just a put-on or is there really an audio effect by
>this name.  If the effect is real, could some one please explain it or give
>me a reference on it

For starters it is just the 'Venetian Effect'. Mike wanted to do something
slightly different with the last part of side one. So he got a new voice
and used 'new' instruments. The Venetian Effect replaces the Mandolins on
the first TB album. He called it the Venetian Effect becasue for some obsucre
reason it reminded him of Venice... ask him not me! (It was apparently done by
taking a mandolin noise, distorting it on a synthesizer and having fun with it!

Tim





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Uni. of Tasmania|     or   phone (002) 202158 (work) (002) 280829 (home)
From: gt4585a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt4585a gt4585a MOORE,JAMES FREDERICK)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: TD IN TROUBLE IN CHICAGO
Date: 11 Oct 92 03:11:15 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <92283.130225U37426@uicvm.uic.edu> U37426@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>
>     Due to very poor ticket sales the Tangerine Dream show at the Riviera
>theatre in Chicago was moved to a much smaller venue, the Vic theatre.  This
>is a common move in Chicago and alot of times the show will go from the Vic to
>CANCELLED!  How has TD been selling tickets elsewhere around the country???

     Considering that there is a track on Rockoon entitled "Funky Atlanta",
I was atleast hoping that TD would do a small concert at the Roxy, Center
Stage, or the Fox.  But I don't have the time or the money to fly to 
any of the cities where they are performing.

     (Maybe they came up with "Funky Atlanta" as their tour bus was ripped
off in Techwood homes -- location joke).



-- 
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| gt4585a@prism.gatech.edu | statements. Women with hairy armpits always are."|
+=============================================================================+
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: doogie@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeff House)
Subject: Roland FP Series?
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:22:20 GMT




Does the Roland FP Series have 88 keys?

Does anyone have any GREAT opinions on this keyboard?  I'm seriously
thinking about one, but as usual, want to get opinions from actual
owners...

Thanks!

Doogie
____________________________________________________________________________
    Jeff House                     "I am nobody telling everybody about
 house@dg-rtp.dg.com                somebody that can save anybody."
 doogie@catt.ncsu.edu 			 wjhouse@eos.ncsu.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:14:29 +0100
From:         Andrea TONI <andrea@SIHP03.SI.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
Subject:      -- New AKAY sampler --
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

Hi,
I just read :
"New affordable AKAY sampler 16 bit RAM expandible till 2 Mb
price 2250 Dfl (1400 $) .... model S-01 "

Anyone can enlight me ?? Have you ever saw this item in a shop ??

Ciao
ANdrea
From: jwagstaff@igc.apc.org (Jeremy Wagstaff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: pitch/modulation wheels
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:44:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1457000007:000:262
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!jwagstaff    Oct 10 11:44:00 1992


pitch/modulation wheels
can anyone tell me whether it's possible to buy a pitch+/modulation wheel
to be attached to a keyboard that doesn't have one? I really don't want
to have to buy a whole new keyboard...
tks a bunch your help
jeremy wagstaff
jwagstaff@igc
From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:19:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: What is Ring Modulation?
Organization: no risk to you!
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

In rec.music.synth, ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (Laird Nelson) writes:

>bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au wrote:
>
>No, Ring Modulation was Wagner's lesser known folloup to his
>operatic triumph, The Ring Triology.
>
>The third movement was fed into the control input of the first, as I believe.
>Maybe this is why opera sounds so bad.
>LAiRD

Well, that sure accounts for all that modulation in the voices, huh? :->

                       Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
                     Oh Hannu, this is most unbusinesslike.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Pelton)
Subject: Re: WANTED:Used Drum Machine/Zoom
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 22:30:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.192822.16272@netcom.com> (metlay) writes:
>In article <gep5CxS00WB3EHikcU@andrew.cmu.edu> Lisa writes:
>>I'm also looking for a used ZOOM.  I'd like a 9000 with foot switch, or the
>>older model, 9002.  Replies to this account... thankx, lisa
>
>Man, I *knew* we shouldn't have hooked her flute transducer up to William's
>Zoom box during the Saturnalia sessions! She played the distortion/chorus
>algorithm, and got this GLEAM in her eye....<shudder>
>
>Actually the fuzzed flute was cool as hell. 

Well...at least for once I've been way (*WAY*) ahead of Metlay.
I had my flute player playing thru a fuzz back in (counts on 
fingers), uh, 1972.  It was this flat box with blue fuzz (fuzz,
get it?) all over it.  We had to try lots of them to find one
that would sound OK with flute, a much different timbral spectrum
than guitar.

It was, in fact, cool as all get-out.  Fortunately it was a little
too late (historically speaking) to be groovy.

Dennis Pelton
dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: This is my last message to r.m.s.
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:58:54 GMT

In article <9210161505.AA15170@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
 
>Well, it looks like the net is finally rid of my annoyances.  As a result of
>the Wendy Carlos post, and a followup personal email message I wrote to
>someone who chastitized me for writing it, I fear that I will be loosing all
>net privilages later today.  Unfortunately, in that personal e-mail reply
>to the person who was offended contained the f-word.  Now, in the wake of
>Tailgate incident, this matter will probably end up costing me a hell of a
>lot more than my net access.
 
In a loosely applied Usenet-symbollic way of looking at things,
I guess you could say you've lost your virtual penis over this one.
 
 
Then again, maybe not.
 
:)
 
(You will be missed, dude)
 
--Eric
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Detroit, Michigan  USA     "Pancakes in Detroit!" --Not David Bowie
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: feng@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Wuchun Feng)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for studio monitors?
Keywords: Recommendations for studio monitors?
Reply-To: Wuchun Feng <feng@cs.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:09:21 GMT

skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson) writes:

>I'm looking for recommendations for studio monitors/speakers.
>I'm looking for good value... not necessarily the 'best'
>system.  Someone awhile back mentioned something by Yamaha...
>NS10????'s.  Anyway, thanks in advance for you help!

Yamaha S8M Studio Monitors.  I don't know how much I paid for them
exactly since I got them as part of a package deal; but the monitors
AND a Yamaha 2075 amplifier together cost me about $400.

-Wu


-- 
Wuchun Feng // feng@cs.uiuc.edu // University of Illinois // Urbana, IL 61801
From: tjt@blink.att.com (Tim Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Note Off Problems (was: Korg DS-8 multitimbral problems anyone?)
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:12:55 GMT
Organization: AT&T

soh@gdstech.grumman.com (Scott O'Hare) writes:
>The Ensoniq ESQ-1 has a sightly different problem with Note Off commands
>that this discussion reminded me of: namely, it sends "proper" Note Off
>commands (3-byte sequences beginning with hex 08), instead of the more
>usual practice, which is: sending a Note On command (3-byte sequences 
>beginning with hex 09) with Velocity (3rd byte) set to zero. Do all 
>Ensoniq keyboards do this? and is there some way of "fixing" it (without 
>buying a note mapper or equivalent piece of external hardware)?

Under what situation is this (generating real note-off's) a problem?  I assume
that you've got some software or something that doesn't handle it well -
I'm wondering how common that problem is, and whether people writing
MIDI software should make allowances for it.  ...Tim...tjt@blink.att.com...
From: hatter@cs.utexas.edu (John Eichenseer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: More K2000(R) comments
Date: 10 Oct 1992 01:26:33 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1512@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>Second, the sustain pedal seems to hold the release segment of the
>AMPENV.  Try bringing up a pad with a long decay.  Play and release
>a note.  While the note envelope is still releasing, press the sustain 
>pedal.  You will faintly hear the note sustaining during its release
>segments until the pedal is released.  This is not a show stopper but 
>it is peculiar and will occasionally make me conscious of how I use 
>the sustain pedal.  Is this a new "feature" of Ver 1.29 or do you 
>K2000 folks have the same problem?

I'm suprised you didn't notice this on your 1000 series gear. My K1000
behaves in the same way. It is, to me, a very useful feature. For instance,
you can actually catch a piano decay, just like pumping the damper pedal
of a real piano. Also, you can exercise greater control over slow-
release pads by pumping the pedal. 

Makes a lot of sense to me. 

-jhno
From: khaberl@bbn.com (Karl Haberl)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: K2000R followup
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:40:27 GMT
Reply-To: khaberl@bbn.com (Karl Haberl)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Oct6.235545.3186@cal.isac.ca> jameson@cal.isac.ca (Kevin Jameson) writes:
>It seems very strange that the price of the K2000R is essentially the same
>as the keyboard version.  Can anyone explain why?  Does it have more
>features or something?  Surely the keys, controller wheels, and the box 
>are worth more than the $100 price difference...

The laws of supply and demand. Many people don't want another keyboard.
And precedent has been established. Many rack-mount versions of synths are
priced close to their keyboarded siblings.

I would imagine that there is also probably somewhat of a fixed overhead
involved in setting up the tooling and associated manufacturing processes.

Or maybe it's just that rack ears are very expensive to fabricate :-).


Karl Haberl               | Let's put the SNL cueball in the corner pocket.
Internet: khaberl@bbn.com |
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: henryf@imagine.com (Henry Flurry)
Subject: Need basic, clean effects.  Lexicon LXP-1??
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:38:39 GMT

I'm thinking of purchasing a Lexicon LXP-1 effects box (list $599).

My goals are:
  - simple, clear controls (used by hand, MIDI control not needed)
  - basic effects (various reverb and chorus, minimum)
  - Stereo in and out
  - Clean sound

What is your experience with the LXP-1?
Would you recommend anything less expensive?

Thanks much for the input!

- Henry Flurry
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: post
From: quent@pinn.nacjack.gen.nz (Quentin Gannaway)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 21:14:12 +1200
Organization: The Pinnacle Club BBS, Auckland, New Zealand. +64-9-631-5382

To Dan Harkless.....Yes, I had a Dick Hyman LP.....I wrote (transcribed)
one track called "The Savers", which I have since sequenced for computer
with graphics, sorta sonidelic.
I was just going to credit Dick Hyman with "The Six Wives Of Henry The
Eighth" but I now recall it was Rick Wakeman. Must have been reasonably
contemporaneous?
   I thought the D Hyman stuff displayed excellent Humour as well as good
use of sounds.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay)
Subject: Re: I've just about had it with Performer. How much is Vision?
Summary: One data point....
Organization: Atomic City
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:49:07 GMT

In article <murat-081092190206@192.100.87.66> murat@farallon.com (Murat N. Konar) writes:
>cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell) wrote:
>> What's the street price for Vision? Is there a trade-in deal? It's a shame
>Please post this info to the net.  I'm sure we're not the only ones interested.

I paid $368 for a Vision/Galaxy bundle from Mac's Place and have been very
very VERY happy with the results (although I'm beginning to learn the hard
way why Nick regards the D-70 as such a totally braindead MIDI machine).

I KNOW there are better prices than this for the bundle, but I can't quote
any offhand. You might be able to do better ordering from Jamie at Sound
Deals, Inc. (his NEW store in Birmingham, AL, doing walk-in business as
well as mail order). Call him at 205-823-4888 (customer service, questions,
etc.), 800-822-6434 (orders only), or email him at 72130.1746@compuserve.com
and tell him Metlay sent you....


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atomic city       | giving rhythm to her posts
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Digitech Vocalist
From: Rod lemcke <LEMCKERO@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:28:27 CST
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

Do you still have your Vocalist for sale??? If you do, are you interested in sw
apping for any keyboards???   Please reply as I am very interested if you would
 consider a trade.
                         Thanks...
                                   Rod L.
From: dodel@CAM.ORG (Jean-Pierre Dodel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Alesis Drum Machine
Summary: BOSS Dr. Rhythm for sale!
Keywords: ALESIS
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:54:58 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

...selling my Dr. Rhythm (with midi in control). Has 64 sounds that
can be edited individually to suit different characters. Has most of
the percussion sounds (bongos, timbale, cow bell, clap, etc...) and
excelent acoustic drum sounds. It has memory for 8 sequenced songs,
contains a huge library of drum patterns that you can simply put
one after the other (amazing when you are not a drummer!), and many
other features...
I am asking 130$US (+ shipping). Reason for selling: I just got the
KORG O3R/W synth and it has built in the same sounds.

jack@concour.cs.concordia.ca

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