HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Jack Dean)
Subject: Neutering to reduce aggression?
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:10:39

I am currently fostering somewhat of an anomaly: a dominant aggressive
male greyhound.  Pacer is a retired racing greyhound that was
previously adopted.  He was returned to us after he attacked the
family cat.  He first went to another foster home, where he attacked
and injured another cat, and struck at the fosterer's dog (a rat
terrier), although he was by this time muzzled.

Since coming to my home, he has displayed a lot of dominance behavior
towards Kojak, my male greyhound.  Behaviors include things like
standing over Kojak, tail up, some growling and snapping, but no
fights (so far).  He has pretty much left Patti, my female greyhound
alone, and he has not displayed any dominance or aggression towards
people.

One of the unique things about Pacer is that the original adopters did
not want to neuter him, so he has had a vasectomy instead of the
normal castration.  So my question to the net is how much will
castration reduce his dominant/aggressive tendencies, especially
towards other dogs?  I not trying to eliminate his behavior towards
cats and small dogs.  I am afraid that he probably was trained on live
lures, and is pretty much ruined for small animals to the point that
he could never be completely trusted.  I will make sure that he goes
into a home that doesn't have other small (lure sized) dogs or cats.
And I will make sure that they know his history.

So what would you do?  Leave it alone and let the hounds work out
their own pack order, or forestall a potential problem and fight and
neuter the dog?  Would you neuter him right away, or wait and see who
is going to adopt him and offer to neuter him for the new adopters if
they want?  Discussion invited.



--
Jack Dean                         dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
From: clr60@ccc.amdahl.com (Catherine L Reck)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dog Crates For Sale
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:24:43 GMT
Reply-To: clr60@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Catherine L Reck)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

For Sale:

Small (puppy or small dog) 100 size almond color Vari Kennel, 16" wide by
21" deep by 15" high. Chrome plated ventialtion grills and door, carrying
handle. In excellent condition, hardly used.

Asking $20.00

*********************************************************************************

Slant front wire crate by General Cage. Gold plated finish, easily collapsible
and carrying handles. Leak-proof bottom pan. Can be used in station wagons
jeeps etc. (besides being used indoors). Medium size, 23 1/4" wide by 35 1/2"
deep by 26 1/2" high.

Asking $45.00 each - we have two

*********************************************************************************

If you are interested in any of this please send me an Email or give me a call,
Thank you.

Catherine Reck
clr60@ctp.amdahl.com
(408) 944-5120
From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: dir/reg
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:47:27 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Again, I just HAD to write when I read the story about the dog
John Heim adopted and the Saran wrap.

Most of you have read about Cinnamon, the "possible" Wheaten 
I adopted last a year ago September.  I am not sure if I 
ever mentioned that I had gotten her for my mom because
of the increased violent crime rate in Jackson, MS or not.
Unfornately for my mom and fornately for me, she chose to 
adopt me *smile*

Anyway, when I brought her home, my mom was not sure at all
if this was really what she wanted...and one of the
very first things Cinnamon did happened the first time
we left her alone in the house.....for 15 minutes.
She stood up and raked down a big pan oc Cinnamon rolls 
from the cabinet.  She gobbled EVERY last one down.

We expected trouble with vomiting and the other, but she was
fine.  We called the vet just in case, but she just wnated
more3 I beleive!   It was NOT a very good start with her
for my mom, but now my mom adores her.....Cinnamon's
protection assureed her of a place in my mom's heart forever.
*smile*

Good luck!

Suzanne
From: kingston@artex.waisman.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: Stool-Eating (yuk)
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:11:30 GMT
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison

I've had dogs all my life and its just like "Why do they eat grass", well
there are certain nutrients in stool.  Some dogs are plain stupid, but
another reason is if they are eating their own then its because of their
own scent in it.  Usually as they get older they will stop.  But like I
said it usually is because of scent or nutrients that is in that stool.
Peanut
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: wenzel@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Patricia Wenzel)
Subject: Re: pet peeves OR "what breed is that?"
Originator: wenzel@pogo.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:58:56 GMT


My husband's favorite response to "what kind of dog is that" is:
A Watling Island Retriever!  People would look very curious and
then my husband would smile and say -- Heinz 57.

This question was mostly asked about our late Golden/English Setter
mix who all black with the build of a golden.  He had a great temprement.

Our current dog is a GSD/Collie mix and people often ask if he is a
white shepherd -- although he has pretty standard GSD coloring with
the build of a collie (and stand up ears!).  He also has a great
temprement -- though he scares the heck out of people who come to
the house unannounced!

Patricia

In article <ROWATS.92Oct7112057@rowats.Software.Mitel.COM>, rowats@Software.Mitel.COM (Stephen Rowat) writes:
|> In article <26048@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, oreagan@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Oreagan) writes...
|> 
|> >>I'm putting on my flame suit :)
|> >>I find the "what breed is that" or getting insulted by having your breed
|> >mis-guessed to be a little on the pompous- side. I understand all the
|> >>reasons
|> >> for having breeds which have certain temperaments etc.  But...
|> [Deletions]
|> 
|> >My dog is a mutt and I wouldn't have it any other way.  He's got a 
|> >perfect temperment as did my 1st dog - another pound rescued mutt.  
|> >Well, perfect temperment for a pet/house dog.  (They might not have 
|> >made very good hunting dogs, I don't know.)  But maybe I'm just lucky.
|> 
|> Hear! Hear! When people ask what kind of dog Cato is, I replied proudly, 
|> "He's a purebread Golden Collie, since his mother was a purebread Golden
|> and his father was a purebread Collie.  What I liked about getting a mutt
|> (don't let Cato hear me say that :-) as a puppy is you don't really know
|> what he's going to look like when he get's older.  Not by any means do I 
|> think that all purebread Collies and Goldens look the same, but you do
|> pretty much know what you're going to get. With Cato, his hair changed
|> colour twice, I didn't know whether he would grow to be 50, 70 or 90lbs.
|> Thank God he stopped growing at 65lbs :-)  His legs looked short and stubby 
|> for awhile, but have now filled out.  
|> 
|> For my next dog, I'd like to get a purebread German Collie, hopefully that way I'll get a dog
|> whose ears will stand up! (But you'll never know till they do.)
|> 
|> Stephen Rowat
From: cwilbur@polar.bowdoin.edu (Charlton Wilbur)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Martyn & Moose
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:28:43 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Marty and Moose,

My sympathies and condolences are with you. I can't offer any advice -- all
the dogs I've known have died of old age -- but I can tell you that there's
nothing like the loss of a dog. May you have the strength to go on without
Moose. My heart goes out to you.

Charlton
From: vnemmer@max.sfc.sony.com (Veronica Nemmer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Breeder Referal-California
Keywords: Breeder Referal
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:11:12 GMT
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA


Santa Clara Valley Kennel Club Breeder Referal number:
	
	(415) 858-1111

I have dealt with this club personnally and know by experience they only recommend breeders of high quality and integrity.  This is also a good number to call if you have questions about a particular breed, prior to purchasing a puppy.
From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: research on fleas
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:33:31 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

I just read a story about a researcher who invented an artificial
dog for the purpose of breeding fleas. He complained that the   
alternative was to pick the fleas off of 25 severely infested 
live dogs. He called this "tedious and time-consuming". I assume
this is the reason he invented the artificial dog. God forbid
that he should spend too much time picking fleas. I hope he also
had concern for the suffering of the dogs as a motivation for
developing this device.
BTW, I am not an animal rights activist. But I do think they should
be respected and treated humanely.
I guess the bottom line is that maybe the dogs won't have to suffer
in order to gain more insight into parasite problems.
I thought his word usage was a little harsh though.
(Part of this was taken from Chemical and Engineering News without
the permission of the American Chemical Society)
-Jeff
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog & Protection
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:30:34 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Bailey Brown writes:
> I keep my dogs for personal protection as well as companionship.  Notice
> I said PERSONAL, not PROPERTY.  If I am attacked, I want my dogs to
> jump in on my side.  I couldn't care less if my dogs let somebody walk off
> with my stuff.  That's what homeowner's insurance is for.


Well said! One of the reasons I keep my dobie in the bedroom when I go out is
so that if somebody breaks into the apartment while I am out, despite the
barking, maybe they will take the t.v., stereo and computer and leave him
alone. When I am with him, I expect we should protect each other, but when he
is alone I want him somewhere safe, which is the main reason why I believe
dogs belong indoors or in a secure run when their owners are not home.

--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca    I cried because I had no shoes
or:      a4080@mindlink.bc.ca         Until I met a man who had no feet.
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From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Malamutes in the Movies
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:12:56 GMT

Generally any movie with "wolves" in them usually have Malamutes instead 
because they are more trainable.  Some movies that I noted Mals playing wolves:

Journey of Natty Gam (Disney -- is this the right title?)
Call of the Wild  (Yes, they had hybrids as well, but a couple of scenes they
did some creative splicing with Mals in them)


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From: kingston@verbis.waisman.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: german shepherds
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:41:46 GMT
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison

Hi
I live in Madison, WI and I have the BEST German Shepherd.  I have had dogs
all my life and this one is truly the smartest.  Everything I say, she understands. When she gets in the car and sits on the passenger side, all I have to say
is "get in the back", and there she goes.  When I want her to go to the back
porch, from the outside front I say back Porch, and she knows what I'm talking about.  She's 8 years old and has perfect hips.  Also, very protective and all
of her sisters and brothers are like this.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Dog & Protection
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:28:22 GMT

In article <2AD1F8DC.16785@ics.uci.edu>
   tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
 
>You have *labs* that bite?
 
 
She never has, but when someone approaches the yard that she doesn't
know, she appears to be just as protective as my GSD.
 
I don't want people to get the wrong impression about my dogs.  They
are very well socialized, and never even the least bit aggressive
(my kids, ages 5, 3.5, and 2 play in the backyard with them all
them time - without us back there with them).
 
Explain something to me. I never get into fights (some adults do).
I don't hit my wife.  In other words, I'm not an aggressive person.
But I would be willing to kill someone in order to protect my
home and family.  Why is that right for me, but not my dogs?
(I suppose you could argue that it would be wrong for me, but
you'll never convince me of that).
 
      --------------------------------------------------
Chris Barnes            |
cbarnes@tamvm1.tamu.edu |  Bow season started last week!
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |  I get to give it a try this weekend...
(409) 845-4437 (work)   |
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: AS.RAF@forsythe.stanford.edu (Rebecca Fenton)
Subject: Re: Pet Population Legislation
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:37:25 GMT

The county that I live in has adopted an ordinance on Altering dogs
and cats.  I fully support this, but it is unenforceable (sp?).

My next door neighbor works for the local Humane Society.  Her
roommate also did, but got tired and frustrated of having to put
down animals.  Though the animals were kept for 3 weeks, the owner
would only show up AFTER the poor animal was euthanized.  Talk about
frustration for the people who take care of these animals.

Talk to your local dog catcher.  They love animals, and hate putting
them to sleep.  It is not unusual for my neighbors to bring home
dogs and cats to stay with them when the "Pound" is over-full.

For that reason (and others), I would never complain to them about
any noise or mess found in my yard.  It's easier to ignore the
barking or clean up the mess, when I know that they are there
for my benefit as well as my animals.

BTW,  my neighbor just went back to work after suffering a broken
collarbone and arm, received from a frightened and abused horse.
In inspecting the beast, it shied and kicked her.  In my opinion,
she is a heroine for protecting animals.  If that includes the
sadder part of her job, then so be it...


A real fan of City Pounds and Humane Societies (where I got 2 of my
3 pets 7+ years ago).


Becky Fenton
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Someone please help me...my best friend is hurt!
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F85665AB022631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 7 Oct 92 13:55:01 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:01:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.011434.5507@netcom.com> Tom R. Rice,
tomrice@netcom.com writes:
>	Followup to previous post re Veterinary Orthopedic Surgeons:
>
>	The American College of Veterinary Surgeons is located
>	in Maryland, phone number 301-718-6504.
>
>	Another possible source is the Small Animal Clinic
>	at Cornell University, phone 607-253-3060, Ithaca, NY.
>
>	For possible spinal problems, you want a Board-Certified
>	Orthopedic Surgeon who specializes in back/spine matters.
>	My SF Bay Area specialist recommended the above as places
>	to seek out qualified practitioners.
>

This is excellent advice and I thank you...the problem is how much
would surgery like this cost?  I'm afraid the cost would be prohibitive.

As old as Major is, whatever I do will probably only help him for a
couple of more years either way.

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: joana@vcd.hp.com (Joan Armstrong)
Subject: German Brathair (sp?) ??
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:08:55 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Vancouver Division

I met a 5-month old puppy the other day, and fell in love!!!

Her owner said she was a German ?Brathair? (sp??), bred from
Germ. Shorthairs and Poodle Retrievers (another unknown to me,
so I probably have this name wrong, too).  

She was chocolate brown with white overlay fur, sort of a neat salt
and brown pepper effect.  Very lovely dog, fairly calm for her age,
and smart.

Can anyone tell me anything about this breed, including breeders in
the Northwest?

Thanks,
--Joan 

-- 
Joan Armstrong
CIM Engineering, Hewlett Packard, Vancouver Division
Internet:    joana@vcd.hp.com
HPDesk:      Joan Armstrong /HP5400/AL
From: bmann@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Arthritis - pain relief?
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:22:21 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

I have been able to locate heating pads for dogs at my local farm store.
They are used to using them for baby pigs around here - you might even
ask for a "pig blanket" - (seriously!).
Barbara Mann, Wright State University, Dayton, OH
bmann@desire.wright.edu
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: pet peeves OR "what breed is that?"
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:16:52 GMT
	<1asgbdINNf9i@bigboote.WPI.EDU> <26048@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

In <26048@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, William Oreagan writes:

> I can't tell you the number of times I've been asked "What breed is
>that" ANSWER: None, many
>There is some sense in the conversation that to not be a recognized
>breed makes my dog less.
appropriate answers would include:

she's a mix-we don't know exactly what her parents were.

he's half a and half b.

her mother was c, and we don't know about the father.

he's a mix of a, b, c, and maybe d.


if someone admires your mutt enough to ask what she is, and you give them
an imaginary breed name, then *you* are spreading the myth that muttness 
makes your dog less, and that there's no such thing as a good-looking 
mixed breed.


i was annoyed when someone thought my brindle plott hound was a lab, since
she didn't look anything like a lab, but i thought it was an intelligent guess
(though wrong) when someone else asked if she was a great dane mix, since
she resembled a dane but obviously wasn't one.
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Golden Retriever/English Setter....Golden Setter? *smile*
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:24:18 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Someone posted yesterday mentioning that they once had a 
Golden/English setter.  I emailed you, but it was bounced back 
to me.  I never thought I would find anyone else who had one!

My sister and brother (in law) got a Golden Setter a few months ago.
He is hell on wheels!  They had a really tough time wiht biting, but
after consistency, they seem to have him doing a lot better.

Will you please write me with any information that you may feel
will be helpful to them?  Anything about his tempermant,, personality,
and what he looks like!!!  *laugh*  I just knew he would have long hair,
but he has very very short ahir.  He is white with rust colored
freckles all over his face and the front of his body.  He has
some big rust colored spots on his back.  I felt his hair would
grow and get a bit longer, but it is sooooo short right now!

Did your puppy have very short hair when he was born?  And did it
grow longer?

thanks for any information you may have!  *smile*

And everyone have a nice day!

M. Suzanne Sims
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 11:42:40 -0400 
From: Barbara Carlson <bc1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Arthritis - pain relief?

Excerpts from netnews.rec.pets.dogs: 6-Oct-92 Re: Arthritis - pain
relief? by hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisvil 
> Arthritis in dogs tends to be affected by changes in the weather (it's
> worse when it's cold or damp out).  Have you noticed this to be the case
> with your dog?  There may be something besides arthritis going on here -
> try to get him to the vet as soon as you can.

Yes, when it's cold and/or damp out, he's terribly stiff. He doesn't
like being on my water bed (can't jump down) -- I thought he'd like the
heat, but he was too scared to enjoy it. I'd thought about putting a
heating pad on low on his doggie bed, but (a) I'm not sure it's such a
good idea to get him used to a lot of heat or it'll feel even *colder*
outside and (b) I don't want him to electrocute himself.

--Barb--


Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: vv@mbunix.mitre.org (Ventrone)
Subject: Rescuing Racing Greyhounds
Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Ma.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:26:57 GMT

My wife and I just heard about a program (for lack of a better term) to find
homes for Greyhounds that have been retired from racing.  The friend who told 
us about this claims that the dogs are very suitable as pets (partly because 
their life on the track is pretty bad, so they are delighted to be in a 
real home).  The claim is that they are docile and do not--contrary to what 
I would have thought--need unlimited amounts of exercise each day.  Anyone
in this newsgroup a Greyhound owner who can shed some light on the idea 
of providing a home for one of these dogs?  What are their personalities like?
Are they worth anything as watchdogs?  Do they really not require heaps of
exercise?

Thanks in advance.


-- 
   Vince Ventrone
   The MITRE Corporation       "...In my opinion, there's nothing in this
   Bedford, MA 01730           world beats a '52 Vincent
   vav@mitre.org               and a redheaded girl."  -- Richard Thompson
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: pet peeves OR "what breed is that?"
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:06:44 GMT
	<1992Oct6.134912.19413@sei.cmu.edu> <1992Oct6.150707.14620@iti.org>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

In <1992Oct6.150707.14620@iti.org>, Jacqueline A. Giles writes:
>>
>With the many breeds in existance, it is hard to recognize all of
>them.  I go to shows alot and still don't know the various terriers
>and get some of the sporting dogs mixed up.


i don't mind that.  it never bothers me when someone asks me what my dog is.
but if you want to know, *ask*.  wrong guesses make you look silly, which 
isn't too bad, but *telling* someone wrongly what their dog is is just plain
rude.

i've gotten used to people asking whether my bluetick coonhound is a german
shorthaired pointer (they are both muscular shorthaired dogs with [usually]
speckles).  but a few times someone has *told* me she is, and acted like i
was lying when i said she was a coonhound.  then, if i tell them she's a ukc
grand champion, which means the judges thought she looks like a bluetick,
they think i'm just making us stories.  this may be partly because akc
doesn't have grand championships, and many people have never heard of ukc.


-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine