HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: One head isn't better than two
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 14 Dec 92 07:35:56 GMT

Original to: geoffc@zebedee.uucp
(I'd reply via mail, but from here I don't have a hope of getting to you 8( 

In a message of <04 Dec 92 14:13:19>, geoffc@zebedee.uucp (3:713/602)
writes:

 g> In the last few days my internal floppy disk drive had stopped working.

[...details...]

 g> Any ideas as to why the drive should stop recognising double sided disks
 g> ? My guess is that there is a break in the cable going to the floppy
 g> disk drive but any other ideas would be welcome before I try replacing
the
 g> cable. 

Sounds almost like the second head has had the richard - that happens quite
a lot if you format single-sided disks and use them as DS. (on some
single-sided disks only one side is polished - the other is like sandpaper)

Another possibility is that your soundchip has bit the dust - one of the
spare outputs on it is used to select which side of the floppy is read.  

The cable is a very unlikely suspect.

Buy a 3.5" floppy cleaning kit & try that first, then try a visual
inspection of the heads (peer thru the slot 8), also try borrowing another
DS drive & try with that.

 g> Thanks
 g> Geoffrey

\`miff`                                                       /|\

--- ScanMail 0.68 X0501
 * Origin: That Which Is Not, ST in SA. 61-8-232-5722 (3:800/842)
From: czekall@uni-muenster.de (Ralf Czekalla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: UW and terminal emulation....
Date: 18 Dec 1992 10:42:56 GMT
Organization: Westf. Wilh.-Universitaet Muenster, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cayman.uni-muenster.de
Keywords: adm31 vt100

In article <1gn6apINNb2v@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU>, rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Greg Patten) writes:
|> kruel@phys-chemie.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de (Thomas-Martin Kruel) writes:
|> Then..
|> >If you just want to download files at the same time you're working,
|> >get ConNect in conjunction with an accessory called GSZRZ.ACC by
|> >M. Ziegler. Both together will cost you 80.- DM ~ $55 +S&H.
|> 
|> Where/how can I get a copy of this .ACC? It doesn't seem to be on any 
|> of the archive sites. I don't use ConNect so did I miss something in
|> the docs? Please...I want this .ACC.

Hello Greg,

it's "pay-ware" and you can connect Michael Ziegler by his MausNet-Account:
Michael_Ziegler@M.maus.de or such a Fido-Number, which I don't know/won't 
remember. 

Tschau Ralf

InterNet:                          MausNet:
<czekall@obelix.uni-muenster.de>   <Ralf_Czekalla@ST.maus.de> (no binaries/UUEs) 
[For binaries and long Mails please use the InterNet-Account]
From: qsi@contrast.wlink.nl (Peter Kocourek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: RE: intellectual property and shit
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:27:03

wa1ee200 wrote in a message on 15 Dec 92 to All

 W> Mozart died at age of 39 (??) because of poverty but he still 
 W> wrote music until the very last days. Computer softwares aren't 
 W> like music, they cannot last so long.

Mozart did not die of poverty. He died of disease. He was relatively poor,
because he kept spending money at a furious rate, and was living above his
means. Mozart wrote music, because that was the way he got money. It was
his trade. And he wrote music until he died, because he needed more money.


YHS:QSI!
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Virtual Memory on MultiTos
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:18:14 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk's message of 17 Dec 92 14:01:39 GMT

In article <724600898.9501@minster.york.ac.uk> mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
| In article <1992Dec16.043917.1193@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes:
| >(At our university, we have tons of 16Mhz,68020-based workstations for the
| > first-to-third year students that use virtual memory THROUGH A NETWORK,
| > [meaning no local hard disk, a virual memory page swap has to be done 
| >  through a busy network] and run quite well. You NEVER (ever) have to
| > worry about running out of memory.
|
| Not quite true -- you can run out of swap space on the server, and there is
| a limit to the total amount of memory a process/user can have. And swapping
| over the network is still much slower than swapping onto a local hard disk.
|
You want to know about running out of VM? The program I am writing for my
project uses Dijkstra's algorithm for searching a graph. Running on a 40Mb
Sparcstation with 120Mb of swap space, I got out of memory errors. OUCH!
(I soon removed the bug that caused the problem - *severe* memory leakage!)

--
Simon Oke, 3rd year Computer Science
undergraduate at the University of Essex, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: The Path of True Enlightenment (was Re
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:01:01 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

David Baggett writes:
>
>Yes, shareware is a complete and utter joke.  It's a delusion that
>naive programmers (or very lucky ones) get sucked into.  Eventually
>we learn how silly it all is.  Honestly, why should we expect people
>to pay for something they already have anyway?  It's just insane to
>think this system would work on a grand scale.

No, it *does* work.  But your chances of success are about the same
are writing your first novel, sending it off to a publisher, and having 
it become a runaway best seller.  By "success" I mean enough money
to comfortably live off of so you can develop more software.  I
have talked to several programmers who, at the peak of their success,
were pulling in $300 a month in registrations.  That sounds
impressive, but just try to live on $3600 a year.  Even triple
that wouldn't be all that great.

The big shareware success stories (in the IBM world, mostly) are
run by people who look at what they are doing as a full-time
business.  They don't simply upload a program to various ftp
sites and bbs'es and wait for results, they advertise, make
distribution deals, have overseas distributors, get 800 numbers
and credit card merchant status, hire full-time telephone
operators, use professional artists--and most importantly, use
shareware as a hook to get people buying commercial products.
In the purest sense, this is no longer shareware.

--
James Hague   
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
From: v077l5lx@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Guy N Di Piertro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: TT 1.44 meg floppy help
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello!  I have installed TOS 3.06 and the new Atari controller
for the 1.44 meg floppy in my TT.  I have also flipped the 
switch to enable the high density format button.  The drive reads
properly, and even writes acceptably, but for some reason it 
won't format in high density well.  It worked a few times but
doesn't anymore.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
	I think this discussion came up before but I don't remember
what the verdict was.  Is the problem in the drive or the 
controller or TOS?  Thanks!
						- Guy :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: I'm Through With Atari
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 15 DEC 92 15:44:18    


The title sez it all.

I will keep my 1040 and 520 and likely use them for quite some time.  The 1040
is going to become dedicated to my MIDI setup where it makes no sense to go to
another system, but I'm now in the market for another computer and it won't be
an Atari.

All the slamming of Atari has gotten to the point of being funny to me.  I
really don't know if I want to buy a Falcon, although earlier this year I did
consider buying a Mega STe.  But I can't get my machines serviced locally, I
can't buy software locally and the selection of software today is probably as
good as it's going to ever be.  

I really like my ST and I hate clones but there is a clone in my future because
it's the mainstream and working on the fringes is just too much trouble these
days.  Windows, here I come, like it or not...


					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

	****************************************************
	*						   *
	*  The above does not reflect the opinions of	   *
	*  my employer.					   *
	*						   *
	*  If music is outlawed, only outlaws will be      *	   
	*  musicians.					   *
	*						   *
	****************************************************
From: Peter_Missel@k.maus.de (Peter Missel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: You Could Win Big Money...
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:54:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: K.A45841
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14D/hb

l>The 520ST+ was not an offical machine - A few companies sold them in 1987
l>when
l>a 1040STF cost 599 pounds and an 520STFM (single sided disk drive) cost 399
l>pounds.  They where basically 520STFMs with an extra 512K memory soldered
l>in by the vendor effectively giving a 1040STF plus modulator but with only a

no, sorry. The 520 ST+ was the 520 ST (no F or M!) with 1 meg. It was
introduced in December 1985, four months before the first STF (the 1040) was in
the shops.
It for sure was an official machine.

- Peter -

(This message typed on an ATARI 520ST+)
From: abaddon@uk.ac.liverpool.scm.suprenum (Kevin o donovan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Emacs 18.58 sources
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:32:56 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool, UK

Have the sources to Emacs versio 18.58 been posted anywhere? All I can
find are the binaries. I quite fancy recompiling it with Lattice C.

Kev
From: lehmann@cs.tamu.edu (Mark A Lehmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Setting SCSI # and LUN #
Date: 19 Dec 1992 06:01:09 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: photon.tamu.edu
Summary: How to change SCSI and LUN # on Supra 20 Mg hard drive

I would like to change the SCSI and LUN # on my Supra 20 Mg hard drive.
My father graciously bought me a ICD/Quatum drive to replace my destroyed
Supra 60MG drive.  Now I want to occasionally connect my 20Mg drive to 
my ICD/Quantum drive to backup my data.  Does anyone know how to change
the Supra drive so that I can boot with the ICD/Quantum drive and then
later turn on the Supra 20Mg drive to backup some data?

I have tried to use the software from Supra called "SUPEDIT" to change
the DMA and LUN number but it never seems to work.  When I try to change the
parameters and execute the change, the program tells me the device descrided
by the parameters that I chose is not responding.

So, is it even possible to change these parameters on the hard drive?
If not, I'll sell the drive.  It works perfectly, but I don't have any
need for it besides a backup drive.
--
Mark Lehmann                      Senior Texas A&M University
lehmann@cs.tamu.edu               UPE Honor Society - Vice President
From: ak354@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dennis Mc Guire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Virtual Memory on MultiTos
Date: 17 Dec 1992 03:04:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Eric,

   There was some discussion on the Atari Explorer On-line FNET
conference regarding porting an X-Windows terminal to the ST.
What are your comments on the feasibility of this and the amount
of work required?  What would be the minimum hardware required
to make it really useful?
From: mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: You Could Win Big Money...
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:50:12 GMT
Reply-To: mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk (Mathew Lodge)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

In article <1gdtmjINN1e7c@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de writes:
>In <1992Dec11.181837.7834@newshost.lanl.gov> hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson) writes:
>
>>Basically, the 520 has 512K RAM and the 1040 has 1Mb RAM.  Other differences
>>can abound, however, depending on how old the system is.  Some 1040's did
>>not have an RF modulator (therefore no hook up to a TV), early 520's did
>>not have a built in floppy drive, etc.  Just look before you leap.
>
>Huh? I never came across a 520 with a  floppy  built  in.  Always
>thought all 1040's had one and all 520 don't.

No, there are lots of 520STs (and STEs) in the UK that have built in
floppies. Some of them are even double sided :-)

>Greetinx, Jan

Mat

| Mathew Lodge                      | "What think you, my lord, of... Love?" |
| mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk          | "You mean rumpy-pumpy?"                |
| Langwith College, Uni of York, UK |  -- Blackadder II                      |
From: clausb@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com (Claus Brod)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 10:39:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Multi-tasking
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Harald Schoenfeld (mppi76@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de) wrote:
> It's true, MultiTOS is slow on STs. But we developed (!) programs on
> the ST using MultiTOS. So it is not too slow. (It is faster than
> Windows on a 386SX I think).

I also use MiNT/MTOS on my standard Mega, and in the end it 
pays in terms of development speed because you can let the computer
do things in the background while you're working in your editor.
Moreover, it would be just horrible for me to be forced to use a more or
less radically different set-up when switching from my TT to the Mega.
Eric, if you are reading this: This is a definite vote for the general 
availability of MultiTOS.

-- 
--clausb@hpbeo79.bbn.hp.com----------------------------------------------
Claus Brod, MDD, HP Boeblingen   	Things. Take. Time. (Piet Hein)
--#include <std_disclaimer>----------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jkrakover@sma2.rain.com (jonathan)
Subject: ST & other things FOR SALE
Organization: Guns for Peace
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 07:50:46 GMT

FOR SALE......

TatAtari 1040 ST w/ 4 megs memory-----$250/OBO
Spectre GCR (w/ 128K MAC ROMs)--------$250/OBO
Atari SM124 Mono Monitor--------------$80/OBO
Sysdyne Color Monitor (Enhanced CGA w/ atari adaptor)-----$200/OBO
60 Meg SCSI Hard Drive mech-----------$80/OBO
30 Meg SCSI Hard Drive mech-----------$60/OBO
Atari SLM805 Laser Printer------------$400/OBO
Monitor Master Switch-----------------$15/OBO

I would like to sale this equiptment fast so that I'll have money for
a new computer (Probably the Falcon).  It all works perfectly, and
is in excellent shape.  Please feel free to ask any questions about
any of it.

I may be reached here (jkrakover@sma2.rain.com) or by phone 503-666-8568
Thanks,
Jonathan

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: falcon questions
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:34:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.4514.27623@dosgate> "calvin bruner" <calvin.bruner@canrem.com> writes:
>1) If I want to have both VGA and true colour modes, will it be
>necessary for me to either have two monitors (ugh) or keep changing the
>plug to the Falcon (using a multisync)?  Is it possible through software
>to tell the computer the type of screen to use, regardless of the plug
>in the back?

It is possible to configure the video thru software, but, whenever you change
modes via the desktop it will check the configuration of the adaptor plug and
reset itself. So, the simple answer is, you will need to keep changing the
plug. An alternate answer is, someone ought to make a multiscan adapter plug
with a toggle switch for the VGA detect line.

>2) Does the Falcon have a separate 32 bit video bus?!  That is the
>impression I'm getting, however, some of the Amiga Advoc postings (yeah,
>okay I read it - they have decent info sometimes) had stated that the
>major failing of the Falcon was its lack of a separate 32 bit video bus.

Hm... There's "separate" and then there's *separate*. There is only one bank
of memory, and both the CPU and the video have access to it. But the video
gets there using 32 bit accesses, and the CPU only uses 16 bit accesses. So,
yes, the video fetches via a separate bus from the CPU, but who cares, both
buses go to the same place in the end...
-- 
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

All true wisdom is conveyed in one-line witticisms.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Portfolio Software
Date: 16 Dec 1992 12:05:00 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Can some one help me..

A chap here has just brought a Portfolio with the parallel
port adapter, but allas no software to tranfer the data to a PC..

Can any one help with a copy of the disk or E-Mail the
files to me...

We don't have Atari support here in New Zealand any more..

By the way is the Portfolio sill made and supported..??
or did I read about a version II comming out...



Roger...............      sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: gael@caboose.VI.RI.CMU.EDU (Gillette Elvgren III)
Subject: sports game info wanted
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:46:18 GMT


I am interested in getting my younger brother a sports game for
the ST.  He is especially interested in football & soccer.  Can
anyone tell me what is available?  I would be interested in reviews
of such games if possible.

  Also is BattleZone available for the ST, and is it any good?

Thanks,
Gillette
gael@cs.cmu.edu
From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Warp 9 screen saver extentions
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:25:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec14.042523.11274
Organization: University of Washington


Does anyone know if there are any Warp 9 extendo-save extentions available
anywhere besides the ones that come with it?  If so, where can I get them?

Thanks, 

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Spectre 3.X
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:39:33 GMT

In article 22849@cis.uab.edu, sundsted@amnese.eng.uab.edu (Todd Sundsted) writes:
>I just got back into this news group after a couple months absence, and was
>wondering if anyone has any news on Dave Small and the Spectre.  I vaguely
>recall hearing bad rumors concerning the whole thing, but that was some time
>ago.  So, what's the latest news....?
>					Todd

Dave Small and Gadgets by Small are still alive and well in Colorado.  They
essentially took the summer off due to a very serious injury to one of their
children.  So they placed family ahead of business priorities; can't blame 'em.
Anyway, child has recovered and Dave is supposedly hard at work on Spectre 3.1.
I would look for a new Gadgets newsletter RSN, announcing 3.1 and other goodies.
---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Best Llamatron Score
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:21:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.160143.15951@informatik.uni-bremen.de> christof@wowbagger.pc-labor.uni-bremen.de (Christoph Koerner) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.084130.19966@spc.nl> stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma) writes:
>
>>A friend of mine plays it without the droid, gets to the last level, the
>>Ozric Tentacle (or something) and just milks it for points until he gets
>>bored. He's up to 7 mil I believe and could have restarted at level one with
>>>100 lives if he wanted. He says he's exhausted the game :-)
>
>Hell, how does he do that? Two-joystick setup? I haven't got one. One
>two-joystick setup, I mean :-) 
>And could you explain how to 'milk' the O.T. for points? That this
>should be possible has escaped me as yet.

Hmm... Well, you could sit in the lower-left hand corner, and shoot to the
right. You'll just keep hitting the bullets that the OT shoots at you, and 
they won't hit you. Do you get points for those bullets?

>
>And: From what I've seen from level 100 onwards, methinks that at some
>point you just end up dying all the time, no matter how many lives
>you've got (after all, this is the philosophy the game suggests). The
>enemies just get too bloody fast from some point onwards.

I always get stuck at level 100+35 or so. The enemies on that board require
multiple hits to destroy, and if you get killed, they don't slow down to 
their original speed, they keep travelling at the speed they were at when
you died. If you don't get a hot bullets powerup early in this board, you
won't see the next...


-- 
"Dammit Jim, I'm a free man, not a number!"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Ray, when somebody asks you if you're a god, you say YES!" -- Winston Zeddmore
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: You Could Win Big Money...
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:18:37 GMT

In article AA17950@floyd.cca.cr.rockwell.com, barothwe@floyd.cca.cr.rockwell.com () writes:
>
>	I'm considering buying one used from someone here on the net, and I
>	need a couple of answers...
>
>		1.  Is Lemmings out for the Atari ST?

Yes

>		2.  What's the difference between a 520 and a 1040?

Basically, the 520 has 512K RAM and the 1040 has 1Mb RAM.  Other differences
can abound, however, depending on how old the system is.  Some 1040's did
not have an RF modulator (therefore no hook up to a TV), early 520's did
not have a built in floppy drive, etc.  Just look before you leap.
		
		3.  Is there a "catalog" of software that's available
>		     for the ST somewhere on the net?

No, but Atari has recently published the "International Software Catalog"
which lists most all known available commercial software products for the
Atari ST/STe/TT computer line.  You can order one direct from Atari by
calling 408-745-6833.  It's a pretty hefty book and well designed with plenty
of descriptions, screen shots, prices, addresses, phone numbers, etc.

>		4.  Where is the best place to buy software by mail
>		     (I prefer 800 numbers)?

One of my personal favorites is TOAD computers, 800-448-TOAD.  Other good
ones are Joppa, 800-876-6040 or Computer Studio, 800-253-0201.  Several
others out there too, of course.

>		5.  Is there a FAQ that recommends the best software for
>		    various applications?

Don't think so but there is an Atari ST FAQ which you should read as it
includes lots of nifty info for the newcomer.

Good luck,
---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st