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From: das@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Longing for the land of long grass...
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:10 GMT
Reply-To: das@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

Twelve years ago I let guilt rule my life and married a man I had no business
marrying because he was threatening a nervous breakdown and suicide and I
couldn't handle the guilt.  The marriage was 4-1/2 yrs of living hell with him
threatening suicide and/or murder everytime things didn't go just the way he 
wanted them.  He was so jealous he wouldn't let me out of his sight.  Burdened
with an enormous amount of personal, parental, and religion induced guilt, I
simply went to work one morning and never came back. *I* ended up having the 
nervous breakdown and am now reading ASH while *he*, after a year of teeth 
gnashing and wailing, settled down and continued life as if the marriage had
never occurred.  7+ yrs later I still struggle with guilt - but now I'm asking
the question, "wouldn't we both have been better off if I'd let him have the
nervous breakdown and attempt suicide back in 1980?"

Good luck, Psycho Kitten.  No two situations are alike.  But if you want to 
talk, I'll be here until 10:45 AM EST Friday and back on Monday.  Oh, the joys
of a nine-to-five job!

--  Lora

In article <1992Nov6.012329.1344@udel.edu>, awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson) writes:
>
>	The REALLy stupid part of it is that I have a tremendous 
>burden of guilt related to seperating from the person I'm living with.  I've
>been trained from day one to feel guilt for nearly everything, esp. pain in
>those I'm living with (in the same home).  Last night I broke down and
>gave him another chance because I felt _so_ damn guilty for chosing a path
>that was best for me.  I just can't live with myself knowing that my 
>leaving would leave him in a total state of despair... and I don't think 
>he'd ever recover.
>
>	Psycho Kitten (in crash&burn mode)
>-- 
>
>Psycho Kitten   \ zaphodb@brahms.udel.edu    \ See me at pecan \ Can I buy a  
>Angela M. Watson \ awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu \ for more info   \ clue please? 

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Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: U56503@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: KHARE
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:46:53 GMT
 <92308.150547U56503@uicvm.uic.edu> <ogorman.720998794@unix1.tcd.ie>
 <92311.223338U56503@uicvm.uic.edu> <ogorman.721323887@unix1.tcd.ie>
 <92314.221216U56503@uicvm.uic.edu> <ogorman.721476710@unix1.tcd.ie>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <ogorman.721476710@unix1.tcd.ie>, ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
says:

>Don't make me laugh. I'm not well don't you know.

Yes.  Thanks for the additional input on that issue.
IMHO, you are your own best advertisement.

Brady

=-=-=-=-Brady Woodward PhD=-=U56503@UICVM=-=u56503@uicvm.uic.edu=-=-=-=-=
  SATAN to NEW-COMER: The trouble with you Chicago people is that you
  think that you are the best people down here, whereas you are merely
  the most mumerous. --Mark Twain  (All other thoughts are mine alone.)
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From: EUCLID@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: LD #3 (now featuring nutri-tweet)
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:34:03 GMT
Organization: C.C.S.O.

What a day, today.  The sky was dark grey and the clouds so low you could go
to the top of a building and reach up and touch them (almost).  It was cold,
and it snowed. IT WAS GREAT! FANTASTIC! I broke into song.....
 
LD#3 (to the tune of 'My Favorite Things')
 
Arsenic and pistols
And freshly honed axes,
Bags made of plastic
And fragmented glasses,
Long lines of rope
From which someone could swing,
These are a few of my favorite thinnnnngs!
 
(to be continued???)         e.k. 10/92
From: U56503@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: REPOST: Winter Depression and Light Sources?
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:57:55 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

This post is for general information purposes, and does not
offer any professional recommendations or guarantees.  The decision
rests with the reader as to whether the information is helpful
to her/him.

As promised, I am reposting the sources for lights used in some
medical centers, like Northwestern here in Chicago, for treating
winter depression.  I reiterate that I have no affiliations (or stock)
in either company.

Medic-Light, Inc.
34 Yacht Club Drive
Lake Hopatcong, NJ  07849
1-201-663-1214

Duro-Test
9 Law Drive
Fairfield, NJ  07007
1-800-BUY-DURO
1-201-808-1800

I have consulted with an MD who heads the winter depression
program at Northwestern, and she recommends both of these light
sources, but I offer no personal guarantees or recommendations.

The latter focuses on light simulating natural light and includes
some ultra-violet as part of the natural light spectrum.  The former
focuses on light intensity with a minimum intensity being 5000 lux.
They provide instructions on when and how to use the lights.

Neither company makes formal guarantees regarding use for winter
depression.  Neither do I other than saying they seem to work for me.


Happy winter!

Brady

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  SATAN to NEW-COMER: The trouble with you Chicago people is that you
  think that you are the best people down here, whereas you are merely
  the most mumerous. --Mark Twain  (All other thoughts are mine alone.)
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Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
Subject: I feel less stupid, but more annoyed.
Summary: I pay rent for THIS?
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: alt.suicide.holiday
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:13:16 GMT

Well I feel less stupid about my real world skills.  The on off switch
that I located does NOT turn on my heat; it turns on the Swamp Cooler
(i.e. the air conditioning).  I called my stepfather to see if he'd
have a clue (He's an electical engineer), and based on my description,
we think we found where the furnace USED TO BE.  So until my landlady
comes back to town on Monday (it's now Thursday), I'm sleeping in my
office.  It reminds me of the good old days when I was homeless and
occasionally sleeping in the Bard Observer office, but now I'm paying
$285 a month for this privledge.  Bleck...

-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg- King of the ellipses
       (dsteinbe@emmy.nmsu.edu)
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Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: life is death is life (a poem)
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:49:03 -0600

In article <1992Nov12.083029.12917@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>  writes:
>life is death
>a cold existence
>slave to this world
>surrounded by banality
>smothered by the uncaring
>the hopeless and frustrating
>not sinful for suffering to end
>all is forgiven in the eyes of god
>spreading wings to the infinite
>the weight upon me is lifted
>this mortal physical body
>returning to the earth
>the sky embraces my
>unleashed spirit
>death is life

golly, where's the point?
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Pheonix 14)
Subject: Re: KHARE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:56:48 GMT

<U56503@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>For example, I find your posts rather attention-getting and tedious, with
>and undertone of sexual provocation (Why Psycho *Kitten*?), 

   Hurm.  I always thought she chose "Kitten" due to her youth.  Also there's
an interesting juxtaposition between the connotations of the word 'psycho' and
the word 'kitten'....kittens being usually thought of as being such sweeeeet
things (unless you happen to dislike 'em).  The alias never struck me as
having sexual connotations.                             

euclid

--
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standard disclaimers apply
It will be generally found that those who sneer habitually at human nature
and affect to despise it, are among its worst and least pleasant examples
                                     ----Charles Dickens
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From: joe@dogface.austin.tx.us (Joe Zitt)
Subject: Re: Phillip Glass
Organization: The Fortress of Ultimate Dorkiness
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:39:33 GMT

In article <aquilanm.721504066@helium> aquilanm@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Mark T Aquilano ) writes:
>I would recommend listening to the Harp of New Albion, which is a 2-tape
>improvisation for piano, recorded on a piano retuned to just-intonation, which
>gives it a very unusual sound.  You might also want to listen to a more 
>recent composition of his called "Salome Dances for Peace" recorded by the 
>Kronos Quartet.  This is considered to be the first "epic" string quartet, as
>it is about 2 hours long and is programmatic.  The tuning for this is again 

Er... considered by whom? I believe Morton Feldman's four hour string quartet
preceded that piece by a few years. I would also think that some of the later
Beethoven quartets could be considered "epic", though in a more condensed time
frame.
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
From: jonathan@vort.cuc.ab.ca (Jonathan Levine)
Subject: Re: Phillip Glass
Organization: n. Organizing or being organized; organized body or system or society.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:28:40 GMT


I've no intention of lapsing into flamedom here...

I've not found Glass's recent recorded work all that interesting either, but
when he performed here in Calgary a few years ago (and a few friends and I
took him and Michael Reisman out to our favorite noodle kitchen) he proved
that they can still *kill* in concert.  One of the best pieces that they
did was "Descent into the Maelstrom", from "The Fall of the House of Usher"
(not yet recorded, to the best of my knowledge).

Nyman (a big fave of mine), is in fact credited (?) with coining the term
"minimalist music", to the reported chagrin of Glass and others grouped
together under that banner.  See Nyman's 1974 book "Experimental Music:
Cage and beyond".  Another good reference is the Belgian composer Wim
Mertens' "American Minimal Music" (1980/1983).  For me, the quinessential
Nyman remains the soundtrack to Greenaway's "The Draughtsman's Contract".
It's probably also Greenaway's most linear movie, but hey, call me shallow.
Incredible film.

Previous poster referred to Steve Reich (great stuff-- I think his best is the
stuff he put out on ECM in the late 70s and early 80s).  Reich's outstanding
(and harder to find in original issue) early work ie Come Out, It's Gonna
Rain (Columbia) and Drumming (Deutsche Grammophone) were reissued a few years
ago by Nonesuch, at about the same time as they began putting out John Zorn's
records.  These, too, are highly recommended.  Stuff newly recorded for these
releases such as Clapping Music (featuring members of the Canadian percussion
ensemble Nexus--longtime Reich collaborators) will sizzle your auditory
cortex with their simplicity/complexity.

I also wish to correct previous poster wrt LaMonte Young-- He's American as
apple pie.

And now... If you want a real kick in the ass, check out Scott Johnson's
"John Somebody" (also Nonesuch).  He extends Reich's 60s experiments with
tape phasing of spoken phrases, then overdubs smokin' instrumentals on 'em.

Good Luck.

-- 
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                (fax)   403-686-1254 | Virtual  Universe         (Calgary AB)
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From: aquilanm@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Mark T Aquilano )
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
Subject: Re: Phillip Glass
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:47:46 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

miku@ee.su.oz.au (Michael Usher) writes:

>[ Concerning works by Philip Glass ]









>>>: One last thing, are there any other minimalists that anyone would recommend
>>>: comparable to Glass?

Are you familiar at all with Terry Riley?  His music is not as "simple" as
Phillip Glass', but I think it has more substance and musicianship to it.
I would recommend listening to the Harp of New Albion, which is a 2-tape
improvisation for piano, recorded on a piano retuned to just-intonation, which
gives it a very unusual sound.  You might also want to listen to a more 
recent composition of his called "Salome Dances for Peace" recorded by the 
Kronos Quartet.  This is considered to be the first "epic" string quartet, as
it is about 2 hours long and is programmatic.  The tuning for this is again 
just-intonation, which sweetens certain intervals, and gives an exotic quality
to others.  The music for this quartet is wide ranging - inspired by gestures
from 18th century "galant" music, by classical Indian music, by the blues, and
many other styles.  If you have the time, you won't be disappointed.

Mark Aquilano
aquilanm@gas.uug.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
From: miku@ee.su.oz.au (Michael Usher)
Subject: Re: Phillip Glass
Organization: Sydney University, Australia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:25:18 GMT

[ Concerning works by Philip Glass ]
>The Photographer, Mishima, Koyanisqatsi, Powqatsi(sp?).

Koya anis qatsi (usually written as one word), and
Powaq qatsi

Also, mentioned in the flyer for the Australian performance of ``Einstein
on the Beach'', Glass is supposed to have written something titled
``The Fall of the House of Usher''.  Anyone got any details?  (Please mail me)

>>: One last thing, are there any other minimalists that anyone would recommend
>>: comparable to Glass?
>
>Michael Nyman: Out Of The Ruins, various soundtracks for Peter Greenaway,

All of them, but ``The Belly of an Architect''.

>The Kiss and Other Movements, several String Quartets, And Do They Do.

Three string quartets, all of which are excellent.  And after ``Prospero's
Books'', he released a CD of songs (I think the singer was involved in PB)


Glass spoke of Scott Johnson (?) as being an excellent composer within
his general style.  He wrote the soundtrack for ``Patty Hearst''.
It's worth looking into, but it's more cacophonic than PG.
Also, PG co-wrote a CD called ``Passages'' with Ravi Shankar.
Glass spent time in (near?) India well before studying in France,
and the comparison of their styles is quite striking.
Sometimes one forgets which work is by which composer...

Michael.
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
From: css@tron.stx.com (Chris Shenton)
Subject: Re: Phillip Glass
Organization: Hughes/STX, Lanham, MD
	<1992Oct26.162611.7980@harlqn.co.uk>
	<1992Nov9.102518.12178@ucc.su.OZ.AU>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:10:00 GMT

On Mon, 9 Nov 1992, miku@ee.su.oz.au (Michael Usher) responds to
queries about Phillip Glass and related music:


>>: One last thing, are there any other minimalists that anyone would recommend
>>: comparable to Glass?


>Michael Nyman: Out Of The Ruins, various soundtracks for Peter
>Greenaway,

miku> All of them, but ``The Belly of an Architect''.

Nyman has done a number of Peter Greeneway film soundtracks. Enjoyable
in their own right, and a perfect match for Greeneways idiosyncratic,
multi-layerd films. I've seen a number of them available on CD.
Nyman's first effort I am aware of is Decay Music, on Brian Eno's
label `Obscure'. More minimal than his recent work for Greeneway. 

If I can stir up the discussion a bit, I'd like to offer that Glass is
*boring*! [FLAME ON] :-) Now that he has become the darling of the NYC
avant-opera scene, he has stopped putting out interesting music. The
Laurie Anderson syndrome. I like(d) Einstein on the Beach, but I don't
see much progress from Glass since then: the same Farfisa keybored
(sic) noodling ever since. [FLAME OFF]

As an alternative, I'd suggest trying Terry Riley and Steve Reich, all
originating about the same period. Reich seems more classically
minimalist (not as in `classical' music) and I'd recommend Music for
18 Musicians. Riley is always inventive and has moved from the usual
classical orchestration of In C (recommended), through long droning
keyboard patterns with tape-loop feedback (Persian Surgery Dervishes,
Les Yeux Ferme) to stunning more recent work involving a justly-tuned
Bosendorfer piano (Harp of the New Albion).

There's also La Monte Young, the Indian vocalist who I understand was
an inspiration to many. His music is somewhat hard to find, and harder
to get into than the previous three.

John Adams and a number of other more recent composers are out there,
as well.

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: stuam@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr O A Machado)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Banned film for 9 years
Date: 9 Nov 1992 12:53:51 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <gunnarh.247.721251956@dhhalden.no> gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
>>Yeah, I've seen The Burning. It's about a group of kids on a summer camp
>>or something who decide to play a joke on their weird caretaker. Anyway,
 [...]
>>gory, but I think the new re-release has been cut. I'd say the uncut version
>>was worth watching once, but there are far better films on the "nasties" 
>>list.
>
>Is this the one where the bad guy slashes the kids on a raft/boat with a 
>hedge-trimmer?




Yep, that's the one.



Orlando
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From: hosch2263@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Christmas Movies
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:52:30 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        I've seen several different versions of "A Christmas Carol" amd my
favorite is the George C. Scott Version.  Edward Woodward does a great job as
the Ghost of Christmas Present, and Scott is magnificent.
        My favorite movie, though, is "The Three Kings."  It was made and aired
by ABC several years ago, and only ran once.  Jack Warden, Lou Diamond
Phillips, and another guy play three mental patients who go to seek the Christ
Child in LA.  (Not a comedy, although there are some humorous parts.)
        

        Kitten


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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: GODZILLA NEWS
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:52:14 GMT

hold on hold on .. 
Godzila died in the first movie.. 
then they brought him back. 
so big deal he dies again and then comes back again 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
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 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
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From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Banned film for 9 years
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 12:52:14 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Socioanarchy and a bit of feudalism

nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type) writes:

> I saw a full page spread here in the UK in 'The SUN' newspaper
> advertising the release on video of a film banned since 1983 called 
> 'The Burning'... has anyone seen this film, and If so, is it any good???
> 
> btw its a horror flick... if you didn't guess....
> 
> 
> neale
> 
> 
> 
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 Is this the same "Burning" which several video review books (none of 
which I can quote right now, since they're somewhere else) classify as a 
stupid Fri. 13th repi-off?
 
marlowe

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: larsa@colargol (Lars Joergen Aas)
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold
Organization: Colargol, Trondheim College of Engineering
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:51:38 GMT

: >Sorry, I've just started reading this group: could someone explain to me why
: >this thread is called "Deckard as 6th Replicant..." ? Is it something to do
: >with the bit that puzzles me in Bladerunner where the chief of police tells
: >Deckard that 6 replicants jumped ship, but then only describes the fate/    
: >whereabouts of 5 of them ?
: 
: Doesn't he also mention that one of them got fried running through an
: electric field?  Or is my maths shot to hell?

I believe it is your math...
They said it was 6 replicants who jumped a ship in the beginning of the
movie, but Deckard only killed 2 of them, one was fried running through
an electric field, one was killed by Rachel and Roy died in the end.
Since Rachel wasn't one of the replicants who jumped a ship and slaughtered
the crew in the beginning, there is one missing replicant, that noone knows
anything about.
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From: jwishnie@taligent.com (Jeff Wishnie)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Tsui Hark filmography?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:58:04 GMT
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
X-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:56:33 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d3

Thanks for the Jackie Chan filmography. Does anyone have a Tsui Hark
filmography (I think I have the name right--the director of the Swordsman
and Chinese Ghost Story movies)?

- Jeff
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