HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dfilip@colorne.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: core dump using mktemp()
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:59:20 GMT
Distribution: world

I wrote :

>Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong ? The following code
>segment core dumps (segmentation violation) on me :
>
>#include <stdio.h>
>
>char msgtemp[33];
>
>extern char *mktemp();
>
>main()
>{
>        printf("before call to mktemp\n");
>
>        strcpy(msgtemp,mktemp("/tmp/sortXXXXXX"));
>
>        printf("after call to mktemp\n");
>
>        printf("msgtemp=%s\n",msgtemp);
>        exit(0);
>}

The problem is fixed using the -VPSTR argument to the compiler, which
puts constant strings in .data instead of .text. Apparently, mktemp()
works DIRECTLY on the pattern string you supply it, and not a copy of it.
I do not have this problem under Xenix or VAX C, and since even the example
under the mktemp() entry in the lexicon demonstrate passing a text constant,
I would guess that MWC's implementation of mktemp() falls into the 'poorly
written program' category referenced on page 62 #6 of the release notes for 4.0.

Regards,

Dave.

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From: PINEAU@uqac.uquebec.ca (Louis Pineau)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: problems with floppy as a filesystem
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:48:06 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: Universite du Quebec a Chicoutimi

Hi there,

Sorry to bother you with this and I know that this has already been discussed
before but after having lost 3 of my floppies (with my mailing files on them)
I am beginning to get very anoyed (and since they are lost, I cannot anymore
look at the files to find my answer).

Here is the story: When mount a floppy on my drive A the first time,
everything is fine. I can write data on it, read it back and after having
finished with the floppy, I umount it.

The next time I mount the floppy, it is still fine. I write another file on it
and then ls -l it and everything seems fine. Having finished, I umount it
again so that I can store it in a safe place.

The third time I try to mount the same floppy, the disk get garbled and
become unreadable.

I made some tests with the same scenario as above and every time, I am loosing
the floppy. First, I thought that these floppies where formatted under coh 3.2
and perhaps could cause this problem, so I reformatted the floppies under
coh 4.0... Same results.

The same is true for the other floppy drive. (my drive A is 5.25 and B is 3.5)

I am also experiencing problems with the raw devices of theses floppies.
Sometime I am able to read them, some other time, I cannot... (using
gtar, ustar, tar...)

Has anyone seen this problem before? I am running coherent 4.0.1 and never
had any problems with my floppies under 3.2 before...

Thanks for any help.

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From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Wnews works (almost)...need some hints...
Date: 6 Sep 92 04:53:10 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

OK, I've finally gotten wnews to compile properly.  Thanks to
everyone for all the tips!  Now I am faced with two hangups:

1. There are no instructions on how to use wnews in the
   wnews3.0 package from Raven.  There is some sort of
   n/troff file, but it is not complete.  I'd be grateful
   if someone could give me a basic "laundry list" to
   follow to use the various programs.

2. When I get news batches from my feed, uux complains
   that it cannot run rnews.  Just to be sure that it
   wasn't a permissions problem I did a chmod a=rwx rnews.
   That didn't improve things.  My newsfeed admin will
   be tickled pink when this is fixed since he is getting
   all the nastygrams from uux. :-)

Cheers,

Chris
From: ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey)
Subject: Re: problems with floppy as a filesystem
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:08:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ben Bailey's Home..Tampa Fl.

PINEAU@uqac.uquebec.ca (Louis Pineau) writes:
> Hi there,
> 
> The third time I try to mount the same floppy, the disk get garbled and
> become unreadable.

This sounds to me like you are trying to use standard disks instead of
High Density disks.  There is a difference in the telsa strength of the
coils between the old 360kb disk and the newer high density 5 1/4 disks.
I think this also carries over to the 720K vs 1.44Meg disks.  This
difference in coil strength and diffence in media will cause the same
problem you describe.

I experenced it under DOS as well before switching to HD disk for the
1.44/1.22 tasks at hand.

Ben
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From: gunther@world.std.com (Gunther W Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: WordPerfect for COH 4.0
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:39:03 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

In article <d4GM02cV21DC01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> tpa10@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Thomas P. Anderson) writes:
>In article <9209131197@umunk.GUN.de> udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
>>DFP10@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU (Donald F. Parsons MD) writes:
>>: On the WPCS section of Compuserve, Ron Whittaker, UNIXPI, WPC Support
>>: says:
>>: At this time, there are no plans to compile WordPerfect on the
>>: Coherent 4.0 operating system. The program may run successfully if
>>: Coherent is compatible with one of the following operating systems:
>>: HPUX 9000 8.07, SCO UNIX 3.2, SCO Wenix 2.3.4, or AIX 3.2
>
>One would think (heaven forbid) that, given the possibility of increasing
>their customer base, the WORDSTAR people could invest a hundred bucks and
>one programmer's time for a day just to see if it works!  Especially given
>Udo's comment, it probably already works, or would only require minor
>changes.  Oh well, I guess they already have more customers than they need.
>
>Tom A.
>opinions are mine, but i'm ALWAYS willing to share!

It's not so much the difficulty (assumably nil in this case) of porting to
a new operating system, it's the potential support issues.  Every new OS
you've got to provide phone support for is a substantial and ongoing expense.
I expect WordPerfect Corp decided that the expected volume of sales would not
be enough to justify the extension to their substantial (if not well regarded)
support systems, the new training for those support personnel, minor modifi-
cations of manuals and disks and so on.

Remember that Coherent is marketed to a very inexpensive segment.  The people
who tend to buy it are far less likely to shell out the 3-400 bucks for a
commercial WP product, much less more complex and technical software.  Until
Coherent makes a sizeable enough dent in the Unix market that vendors can
expect that the tiny percent of the Coherent users who will buy expensive
packages is big enough to warrant their attention (...breathe...), expect the
majority of software available to be either PD or soundings by minor players.

I prefer the tried-and-true ethic of Unix hacks: if you ain't got it, write it.

						Gunther Anderson

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: batchelor@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dave Batchelor, NSSDC, 301-286-2988)
Subject: Double signature
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:44:00 GMT

Dear Udo Munk:

I don't know if it is apparent to you, but your signature lines at message
ends are duplicated.  Maybe something to do with your recent mail software
changes.

Regards,
Dave
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From: baker@ROBOCOP.NYU.EDU (Jonathan Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Problem in Installing 4.01
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:28:12 GMT
Organization: Courant Institute, New York University

I've got the same problem.  Except that the mysterious letter at top right
is a 'c' for me.  I have a nameless system.  The motherboard has a number
C4332, the VGA has a number B496, I'm running AMI BIOS v 14.something,
the CPU is an Intel 486/33, based on the UMC chipset 82C481/82C482.  
Western Digital WDAC2120 120M hd, 1.2m A disk, 1.44m B disk.  The HD
is partitioned into 30 40M chunks.  The controller card has a number
PT-604, which controls all the peripherals (FD's, HD, 1P, 2S, 1 game).

All I can find is some stickers marked Made in China, and the manuals say
Made in Taiwan.

Any clues?

		Jon Baker
                baker@robocop.nyu.edu
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Porting nn 6.4.16
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:21:57 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <92082919382@umunk.GUN.de> udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:

>If 6.4.16 isn't on MWCBBS I would email it to someone with ftp access,
>who is willing to upload it onto raven. So please only let me know
>where to mail it, I can't ftp :-(.

well i can't resolve your address. this is a poorly connected machine.
i can resolve raven. you can email to me and i can ftp to raven.
you can send me your ip address where i can put it in my hosts file.

whatever.

vi gates

yea i know my german spelling is bad and my pronunciation is even worse.

bill pociengel
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From: dave@kira!pete (Dave Peterson)
Subject: mknod
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:49:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization:  


I have find that the mknod() function can be executed from within a 
user program.  The manual states: "Only the superuser root can use 
mknod(). This is a security feature."  I find this when I forgot to
change the ownership of a program to root and set the "set user id 
upon execution" bit.  The program ran with out errors anyway.

Be careful as this is rather dangerous in the hands of an overage user.
I hope MWC will post a fix to this rather soon.

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From: tpa10@ccc.amdahl.com (Thomas P. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Inode/Crontab problems with 4.0.1
Date: 9 Sep 92 06:36:14 GMT
Reply-To: tpa10@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Thomas P. Anderson)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <5282252@neptons.UUCP> roger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth) writes:
>tpa10@ccc.amdahl.com (Thomas P. Anderson) writes:
    ...some deleted...
>> screens full of "(11,1):Inode nnnn busy" messages, culminating in an
>> "(11,1):Inode table overflow" message and a "Panic:bad()" message.
>> 
>> My next step is to back off the "user specific" cron file and try the
>> old method to see if I get the same results.
>> 
>> Tom A.
>
>I had the same problem.  MWC is looking into it.  It occurred with 
>the MWC sample crontabs as well.
   ...some deleted...
>Roger Barth - Cameron Park, California USA            Coherent 4.0.1
>roger%neptons@antares.intel.com                 916-677-9771 (voice)
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
Just to update:  puting the 'atrun' stuff back into /usr/lib/crontab
(and answering all those prompts for the abandoned pipes etc.) DID work.
At least I can boot and use my system now.  As for UUCP, I just log in
as root and force the call, for now.  BTW please keep me posted:  I sent
email to support@mwc.com and never got any response, so IF you get a fix
please let me know.  I used to get email from Doug, but haven't heard
from him for a while.
Just a general question (as I am new to this Unix stuff), what is the
mechanism for software maintenance.  I poked around on mwcbbs and
downloaded the 'news' files etc. but how do I know if the versions of
programs that I have are newer/older than the ones on the bbs?  Just
looking at the dates and hoping doesn't seem very reliable.

Tom A.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mcampbel@ocoee (Mike Campbell )
Subject: What is gigundus file @ raven?
Organization: University of Central Florida
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 06:25:58 GMT

Can anyone tell me what the coherent.tar.Za* files are at raven, in the
pub/coherent directory?  I noticed it's been broken up - it used to be
one gigantic file.  Is it a tar of all the subdirs?  Surely not the coherent
kernel itself?!


Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mcampbel@eola.cs.ucf.edu (Mike Campbell )
Subject: Taylor uucp questions
Organization: University of Central Florida
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:29:50 GMT

I've just ftp'd Taylor uucp from raven, (the one in uucp2 directory,
the one with the sample scripts from bob@mwc), and I have a few 
questions.

1) they come with binaries, and the binaries seem to work.  Which
style of config files do the compiled binaries use?  (the v2
style, L.sys, L-systems), or the BNU style (Dialers/Systems)?

2) to anyone who's got this beast running - are you using the
binaries supplied, or did you re-make the whole thing, and if 
the former, did you simply 'make install', and that was it?  (can it
*be* that easy?)

3) what are the main advantages?  HOW MUCH faster is it?

Mucha thanks!  Email appreciated, will post if anyone cares enought
to ask me to.
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Data CMP modems, fcntl.h et.al.
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:32:47 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

vax@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vax) writes:

> RS-232[c] periphs).  When a data-compressing modem comes along, that defines
> a DCE-to-DCE speed (phone line (data stream) speed) but NOT a DTE-to-DCE speed
> (that is, the speed of the computer to the modem), how can one best use the
> extra "speed" gained by data compression?  Can you set all the modem "speeds"
> to twice the DCE-DCE speed (e.g. 4800 instead of 2400) and then rely on
> hardware flow control to slow it down, or will it barf?

Hardware flow control works nicely. I have a ZyXEL V.32bis modem connected to
a serial port at 19200 bps. Users can connect to that modem at any speed the
modem supports (from 1200 to 14400) without Coherent having to worry about it.

> Will MWC make an official announcement (on the net) about fcntl.h?  As I see
> it, we have three alternatives:

This sort of question is probably best emailed directly to support@mwc.com.
People at MWC do read this newsgroup as they have time, but they may miss
messages and a direct message to them must be a better idea. After all,
of the many people reading this newsgroup, only someone at MWC can actually
answer your question.

						- k
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From: root@tbucks.com (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: keyboard
Summary: Some keys work in one program, but not another?
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:01:33 GMT
Organization: tbucks.com (private bitty-box)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I can understand why some keyboards may give problems w/ Coho. I don't
understand though why, for example, the page up/down key will work with
micro-emacs, but not with vi. Ideas?
From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: beta for installable news ready
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:23:28 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Okay, the beta for an installable news package based on wnews, vn and
tass is ready to go.

Question: How best to post? The compressed archive is 723343 bytes. I
can uuencode and post to this group if no one objects. I can (and will)
make it available on mwcbbs, but it will be a BIG download!

Any constructive feedback is welcome!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: tau@ee.ubc.ca (AU TRI BANG)
Subject: Re: Hardware Incompatibility List
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:19:17 GMT

In article <3082246@twinbrk.uucp> bill%twinbrk%media@uunet.uu.net (William Shotts) writes:
>
>Ok, enough is enough.  Let's get specific with what hardware works or does
>not work with Coherent.
>
>As a public service, I volunteer to create a list of compatible and
>and incompatible hardware.
>[rules deleted]

While this is a very good idea, how can one be sure that a specific 
hardware is 100% compatible?  How do you propose to test that a hardware
is compatible?   Has anyone written any code to test hardware for
compatibility?

First, let's get some software to test for compatibilty.  Then using 
those utilities, I'm sure we can come up with a list that's really
compatible, not just ones that seems to work.
From: patbob@wv.mentorg.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Help with login via modem...
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:09:54 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

In article <9209071218.AA04167@lucky.lion.de>, you write:
|> Hi folks,
|> when my pal tries to log into my Coherent(3.1) he sometimes gets stuck
|> with the login prompt...
|> The modems connect, the login prompt is displayed, but it seems, that he
|> cannot type anything to my machine...
|> Sometimes it works, sometimes not, I cannot figure out, what it is...

	I've seen similar.. but it repeatably doesn't work.

	If they tty modes are wrong or they are sending the wrong parity, then
it might not recogonize carriage return... but it usually will recogonize
linefeed.
	Next time it happens to them, have them try typing a linefeed instead
of a carriage return.. if something different happens, then look for the
problem in the parity or stty settings on the tty they are using.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: help with modem
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:46:58 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <01GOIQ9EIDBM8Y54Z8@delphi.com> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>> > I'm having a problem with setting up my modem with coherent, after
>> > days of messing around with it, i finally figured out that my modem
>> > defaults to "strapping" the DTR (no thanks to tech support i might
>>
>> How are MWC tech support supposed to know that your modem is brain-damaged?
>
>Well, it would be nice if the technical support knew more then the end
>user.  If i had known my modem was incompatible with coherent i would
>have thought twice about buying it, unfortunately i can't return my
>modem so it looks like coherent is the one that is gonna have to go
>unless the problem is resolved.

1. MWC is a small company, and they can't possibly test all the modems that
   are out there.

2. If your modem can't be reconfigured with a user profile that sits in
   non-volatile memory, then it is obsolete.

3. If your modem has DTR set high, and can't be reconfigured for normal
   RS-232 operation, then you might as well forget using it with any
   multiuser/multitasking OS.  It is non-standard and only useful for
   MSDOS.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: waltje@cs.vu.nl (Kempen van Fred)
Subject: Re: tin/wnews
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:10:00 GMT

root@tbucks.com (Timothy E. Buchanan) writes:

>I'm wondering why the file permissions in /usr/lib/news keep changing, that
>is the setuid bits disappear. Could it have something to do with the user
>and group numbers of news? I made those 132 and 10 as in the Nutshell book
>on managing usenet, and set those in the configure scripts where mentioned.
>Should I make news and root or bin the same group?
Hmm.  This seems strange to me...
I have all /usr/lib/news executables at 6755, with some dangarous ones
being 6750.  All normal files in /usr/lib/news are 660, with only the
"active", "newsgroups", "distributions" and "organization" files being
644.  This has been working OK for almost two years now :-)

Fred.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: g89r4255@hippo.ru.ac.za (Lt Sajid Rahim)
Subject: Utilities and misc programs ftp site needed.
Summary: utilities
Keywords: utilities
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:05:02 GMT


I need to get hold of the ftp sites which have the coherent
programs / utilities from which I can down load.

I am not sure as to hold to convert it to coherent format 
once the file has been retrieved. Also, what programs are
availble under coherent. Finally, is lex and yacc facilities
now available for coherent ?

Sincerely

Sajid

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From: haug@zesi.do.open.de (Haug Buerger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: 4.0 Install Problem
Organization: "zesi"
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 92 15:47:37 +0100

Hi,
  my copy of Coherent 4.0 won't install.
The first disk is works ok, booting from HD works ok, too.
After inserting the second disk install quits with

fd0: head=0 cyl=2 <Missing Adrress Mark>
/bin/cpdir -ad -mnt 'cat /conf/upd_supress' /mnt /

I thought it is a bad disk, but i'm able to copy them
to my 3.2 copy without error. fsck /dev/fva0 can't find any error
on the disks.

The install program breaks with the single user prompt. I tried
to remount the disks, fd0: head=0....
I can't mount any disk. If i do to much Coherent stops working.

I want to know what 'generating a new system' means, and
why is my coherent file on disk 127123KB and on HD 142152KB?

Has anybody an idea what's the problem? My 3.2 version works
perfect with my hardware, 386-25MHz,AT-HD.

Thanks for help
               Haug