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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen Reader
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:38:55 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24492

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Thank you for your message.  I don't disagree that Screen Reader is
very powerful, and so are many of the other speech software
packages on the market.  The bottom line question however is this,
what do you do when you have a non-computer type person who needs
to use a computer to type reports, access a database, or do budgets
with a spreadsheet?  Worse yet, what do you do for this person if
the software that they need to use isn't one of the most popular
applications like WordPerfect or Lotus 123.  Attempting to get this
person up and using the speech software and the application
software becomes an unbelieveably difficult task made more
difficult because the person probably is going to have problems
getting payed leave time from work responsibilities to go to a
training center to get assistance or to spend hours on end at work
learning or trying to learn the software.

Take a look at some of the application software on the market now
and tell me how easy it would be for a person who is not a good
computer user to learn a new software well enough to do their own
profiles or macros or whatever you want to call them without a lot
of help.  That is why I think the attempts of Jaws and ASAP at
trying to deal with at least a portion of this frustration is to be
admired.  I am not saying their solutions are perfect, but they do
help a lot when learning a software you know nothing about.  Its'
pretty difficult to tell your speech software to track a certain
attribute if you don't even know what the attribute is or if there
is an attribute.

        D. T.

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From: Carl.Cogdill@f25.n383.z1.fidonet.org (Carl Cogdill)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Welcome San Angelo!
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:07:58 GMT
Reply-To: Carl.Cogdill@f25.n383.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:383/25 - Dark Knights, San Angelo TX
X-Fidonet: Abled Athlete Conference

Index Number: 24443

[This is from the Abled Athlete Conference]

Sheila,

Currently I am playing B-ball on the Rolling Rams. I have been in a
chair only about 4 yours. This will be my 3rd year well actually
only have played about 1 1/2 years so far. I really am enjoying the
sport. I met some really nice people from the Austin area when we
had our tournament here. We played the River City B-team, Waco
Knights, Dallas girls team and Lubbuck. That was the first year for
the Austin team to make it here. we plan to host the games here
again and we are deffinately going to invite Austin back.

The wheel chair sports have really helped me break back into the
world in physical abilities. I was really happy to see this
national Echo and have mentioned it to all of my friends and non
friends. Well I do not have much to say but thank you for
responding. I atleast know that people in Austin read their mail.

Carl

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From: Ryan.Wishum@f7.n3617.z1.fidonet.org (Ryan Wishum)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Hey,Read Me
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:47:08 GMT
Reply-To: Ryan.Wishum@f7.n3617.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3617/7 - Software Corner, Albany GA

Index Number: 22437

Hey, my name is Ryan Wishum. I am 18 and have Cerebral Palsy. I am going to
Middle Georgia College this fall. I am going to study Computer Engineering.
I am interested in meeting new people especially people with Cerebral
Palsy.
If you have Cerebral Palsy or are an Engineer (especially Computer Engineer)
or a college student or just want to meet a new friend, please write me a
message. If you don't mind, please give me your address so if I can't reply
by computer, I can write. I'll try to reply as soon as possible. Hope to
hear from you.

Yours truly
Ryan Wishum

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From: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Hess)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Fast Chairs
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:50:58 GMT
Reply-To: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24464

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a missive of <Sep 02 19:40> Frank Whitney (1:261/1000)
writes to Alan Hess:

AH>>$2600?  That's cheap for an electric chair.  But it doesn't
AH>>sound like what I would like, judging from your reaction.
AH>>*adh*

 FW> It is $26,000.

That's what I thought.  I ordered a Quickie P100, and we'll mess
with the electronics a little to speed it up to 7 or so mph at high
speed.  *adh*

P.S.  The state won't pay to adapt my van for driving, since I'm
unemployed.  They have the money, and they would have paid to put
in a lift, tiedowns, and lower the floor regardless of job status,
but since I already have that, I'm SOL.  So stupid.  I guess
independence isn't important.  *adh*

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From: Michael.Salonka@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Salonka)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Mainframe connections
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:35:40 GMT
Reply-To: Michael.Salonka@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24478

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Mick.  I'm a mainframe programmer and use a PS/2 with an IBM 3270 board
and the Avatar software.  Avatar has their own board but not for the PS/2, so
you have to use the IBM 3270 board instead.

Also, the Attachmate Corporation in the state of Washington has fixed a bug
in their program called Extra which will now work with speech software.
Steve Dawes who is a member of my group called Blind Professional Computer
Programmers has been corresponding with Attachmate in order to get this
problem solved.  If you would like further information about Attachmate, I'll
send you Steve's phone number or pass along more information.  Steve and I
both use JAWS, just in case you want to know.

The toll free numbers for Avatar are:
800-423-4766 in Canada
800-282-8276 in the USA

The toll free number for Attachmate is 800-888-1187.

The Extra software for Attachmate was supposed to have been released last
week.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Michael

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Speaking Eureka
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:39:37 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24495

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi, Steve.

In a message to Keith Bucher <11 Aug 92 06:07> Steve Richards wrote:

 SR> Its BASIC interpreter, after the
 SR> upgrade, is pretty much on a par with
 SR> Microsoft's BASIC for CP/M, and
 SR> it's sound chip is superior to
 SR> anything in a standard computer.  It can
 SR> run a C language compiler and an
 SR> assembler, both for CP/M, naturally.  I
 SR> got my start in programming on the
 SR> Eureka, of course.  I also enjoyed
 SR> the text adventures from Infocom I ran
 SR> on it, games quite difficult to
 SR> find these days, not to mention
 SR> they're not for MSDOS.

[Snip, snip, snip]

 SR> On the negative side, the Eureka uses
 SR> an obsolescent operating system,
 SR> and a hybridized version of it at
 SR> that.  It isn't only incompatible with
 SR> MSDOS, it's not really compatible with
 SR> true CP/M machines, either.

Hi, Steve.

Asside from having a HD64180 processor, what relationship *does*
the Eureka have to CP/M systems?  How close is the OS to, say,
CP/M 2.2 or CP/M 3.0?  Can CP/M programs be run "out-of-the-box",
so-to-speak, on the Eureka (as much as such programs *do* run
out-of-the-box without tailoring or overlays, of course).  What
incompatibilities are there between Eureka's OS and true CP/M?
Can ZCPR3 be run on the Eureka?  For that matter, can one get
right down to the A> prompt?

I thought once of offering to port CP/M programs to the Eureka
environment for Robotron (for a suitable fee) but never got
around to it.  Oh, well.

Like you, I'd take a Eureka (only the price would have to be a
lot lower than the BNS) under the right circumstances.  However,
I wouldn't buy one at the price they're asking and when it came
time for Uncle Sam to get me a note-taker, I definitely ordered
the BNS640.  {Please let's not get into the BNS vs. notebook
thing again -- all the poor SysOps around the country have to pay
for this bullshx! grin}

Just curious, Steve.  You and Keith seem knowledgeable enough
about the Eureka while being clear-eyed and clear-headed enough
to give me the straight poop.  (We have a Eureka rep in our town;
she, of course, would like me to buy one but she isn't
technically-enough inclined to answer my questions and I am too
lazy to pursue it, especially since it's mostly a matter of
curiosity).

Thanks in advance.

Mike Freeman

P.S.  The Eureka rep here is a piano teacher and one of the
things that attracted (and still attracts) her to the A4 was/is
its ability to transcribe music into print -- something that's
got some discussion around here lately. -MF-
... ** "Too many pieces of music finish too long after the end." -- Stravinsky **
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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From: Terry.Norris@f7.n3803.z1.fidonet.org (Terry Norris)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Oregon plan
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:24:41 GMT
Reply-To: Terry.Norris@f7.n3803.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3803/7 - Circle of Support, New Iberia LA
X-Fidonet: Able News Conference

Index Number: 24373

[This is from the AbleNews Conference]

->    More and more doctors are accepting Medicare assignments which
-> limits there fees.

There may be more doctors in your area accepting assignment, but
here in South Louisiana, it seems just to be the opposite.  I live
in a small town of about 30,000, and although we have scads of
doctors, there are very few of them who will accept assignment.  We
have had 2-3 practices close their doors so far this year, as the
physicians were too soft hearted, and could not turn the
medicare/medicaid patients away.  When the word got out that they
would accept assignment, they were swamped with patients....but as
you say, the compensation for assignment is much less than what
most folks think it is.  Who ever heard of a medical practice going
bankrupt?

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From: king@meaddata.com (Mike King)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Need info on Cerebral Palsy
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:15:54 GMT
Reply-To: king@meaddata.com (Mike King)
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH

Index Number: 24525

I just found out that my two year old daughter has cerebral palsy.
She has a very mild case, it seems be primarily only effecting her
gross motor skills.  I was wondering if anbody could answer the
following question.

     1.  My daughters pediatrician SUCKS!!!.  Somehow he has managed
     to miss all of my daughters symptoms for the last 2+ years.  He
     is unresponsive/unsympathetic to my request/pleads to get my
     daughter the care she needs NOW.  Every appointment we need gets
     scheduled a month, or more, from when we ask for it.  Does anyone
     know of a good pediatricain in the Dayton area?  I'm not looking
     for anybody in a "volume" practice.  I'm hoping to find somebody
     who has experience with cerebral palsy patients and who gives
     more of a personal touch and act as a coordinator with all of the
     required specialists.

I would also appreciate it if somebody could send me any information
regarding cerebral palsy and what expectations should I have for my
daughters rehabilitation and her prospects for leading a normal/happy
life. Please respond with any information you have.  Much thanks in
advance.

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From: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Koppelmann)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: free braille telegrams
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:43:05 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/809.0 - Fantasy Mountain, Golden CO

Index Number: 22419

Western Union now allows you to send a free braille telegram.  When I
say free, I don't just mean that you don't pay extra for the braille,
I mean exactly that.  All you have to do is to call their 800 service
at 325-6000 and tell them what you want to do.  It helps to have a
touchtone phone.

                        Boulder bill

... Happiness is Earth in your rear view mirror.

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From: Adrienne.Barhydt@p15.f48.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Adrienne Barhydt)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: fast chairs
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:49:58 GMT
Reply-To: Adrienne.Barhydt@p15.f48.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/48.15 - Jim Long's Computer, Portland OR
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24459

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

On Tue, Aug 25 Alan Hess (1:261/1000) wrote the following to all:
 AH>How fast do the fastest wheelchairs go?  *adh*

The Quickie P300 I have on order claims 7 mph.

Adrienne

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Braille N Speak Comp
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:39:49 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24496

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to David Tanner <15 Aug 92 01:04> Gary Petraccaro wrote:

 > DT>         The people selling the
 > DT> Eurica plainly lied about some of its
 > DT> capabilities, and it was far too expensive.  The
 > DT> Blazie people never made any of the kinds of claims
 > DT> about Braille 'N Speak that were made for Eurica.

Hello, Gary and David!

Although I have played with a Eureka for a few minutes and have
seen two promo brochures (one in the Braille Monitor and one put
up on NFBNET), I am unfamiliar with their literature in toto or
with the claims made for the A4.

In what way did Eureka's manufacturer(s) lie?  What claims did
they make for the Eureka (other than the usual one that it was
good for everything from birth control to being a fuzz-buster
{grin})?  I do not doubt that such claims were made; I am merely
curious about the hype?  After all, TSI has been getting a bit of
a bum rap lately over its Braillemate literature (and, to some
extent, for the device, also) -- deservedly so, in my opinion.
We might as well spread the wealth! {smile}

Mike Freeman
... ** If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy folks? **
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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From: Rick.Catania@f22.n230.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Catania)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Cued Speech
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:08:11 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Catania@f22.n230.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:230/22 - The Special Needs B, Whiting IN
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24444

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

MT>Hi hope you don't mind me jumping in here - but what is meant by cued
MT>speech --- is that a form of sign language --- this is Mary from Morrow,
MT>Georgia calling  - so hope to hear from you ---

Hello Mary from Morrow!

I'm not exactly sure what cued speech is. If I had to presume, I would
presume it is when someone speaks and signs the words partially or even
partially finger spelling them.

Maybe someone else can elaborate on this....

CUL & TTYL   or better yet......  GA to SK

Rick

 * SLMR 2.1 #T375 * Is this where the tagline goes?

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Artic - Large Print Programme Yet?
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:39:09 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24493

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Yes, Artic Focus has been out for at least a year.  Sorry I don't
have the file names handy, but there are demo versions of the Artic
Focus large print software available here at the Braille Bank BBS
in file area 4..

Those who I know who have used the Artic Focus have had mixed
reviews of its' performance.  But, in all fairness the only two
persons I have talked to who have used it other than Artic dealors
were two people who already owned Vista VGA.  Comparing a software
large print output to a software/hardware large print output like
Vista VGA is not really a fair comparison.  I am not sure how it
stacks up against the large print software from Syntha-Voice,
Zoomtext, or LP DOS.  I have also heard that the shareware large
print software Magic is pretty good, but wish I could talk to
someone who uses it on a daily basis.

        D. T

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From: Bill.Burgess@p0.f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Burgess)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: NBBA World Series
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:38:30 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Burgess@p0.f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:229/401.0 - The Connection HST!, Oshawa ON
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24490

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I must advise all that it is very important to have adequate supervision
when playing beep ball.  I was running the games at a blind picnic
locally a few years ago and was standing to the right of the batter,
along with a few who were legally blind.  As the batter swung, the young
adult closest to me stepped forward after the ball was hit, excited
about being next at bat.  But the batter took a full circular swing with
both bat and body, and the bat caught this person smack in the face,
across the nose, and did it bleed.  We would have him calmed down long
enough for the bleeding to ease when he would get excited again and
start it up again.  He had no further problems but it ruined my day and
I have never supervised that game again.  The prime problem was too few
sighted trying to do too much.  Learn from my mistake.  TTYL
Bill

... Renegade Tagline!!  We're tired of Being Kidnapped!!!  REBEL!!!!!

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From: Chuck.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Chuck Hallenbeck)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: new provox demo ready
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:37:11 GMT
Reply-To: Chuck.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24485

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

[Note from Bill McGarry:  This will be available within the next
day or so via anonymous ftp on handicap.shel.isc-br.com in
/put/speech as PROVOX4C.ZIP]

Hello everybody.
Version 4 of our screen review program is now available in a demo
package if you want to give it a try. It comes with a companion program
called "PVX" which you can run under your present screen reader to give
you on-line access to documentation. Some of the features of PVX require
that PROVOX be running, but the on-line documentation does not. The
official manual is not included, and when it is ready, it will be mostly
a duplicate of the on-line documentation anyway. Please note that we
have suppressed our DecTalk PC support and our Sound Blaster support in
this version, because we just do not have it good enough yet. Everything
else works pretty well. It is under 32K and has our screen capture
utility into it, and a bunch of other good stuff. ... Enjoy.

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From: Earl.Appleby@p4.f429.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Earl Appleby)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Kudos for Kelly
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:23:34 GMT
Reply-To: Earl.Appleby@p4.f429.n275.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:275/429.4 - HandiNet B B S, Virginia Beach VA
X-Fidonet: Able News Conference

Index Number: 24368

[This is from the AbleNews Conference]

[The following message may be freq'd as SPECOL1.TXT from Handinet BBS
(1:275/429) (804-496-3320) or any other BBS carrying ABLEnews files.]

ABLEnews PSA

                        Kudos for Kelly

                "Of course, Kelly's a great vaulter.
                 It's how she's always dealt with
                 life's little obstacles." --Denise Kettles,
                                             Special Olympian's mom.

Watching Kelly Ann Kettles perform her gymnastic routine is
anything but routine.

Her technique on the uneven bars is flawless. She performs her
floor exercises with the grace and agility of a ballet dancer.
And as for that vaulting horse, Kelly treats it like a bump in
the rug.

"Piece of cake," shrugs Kelly, after a rather impressive
dismount. "It's amazing what a bit of training can do."

Amazing indeed. Considering that Kelly's only been training
seriously since 1988. And, like seven and a half million other
Americans she was born with mental retardation.

"Kelly's never regarded her condition as a handicap," recounts
her mother and number one supporter. "To her it's simply one more
obstacle to overcome."

It's that kind of go-getter attitude that helped Kelly leap her
way onto the New York Special Olympics Team.

"Being a Special Olympian has done so much for Kelly," says mom.
"She can't wait to go to training each week."

Since 1968, Special Olympics has enabled nearly three million
athletes with mental retardation to come together to experience
the spirit of competition and camaraderie.

It;s an organization whose focus isn't on winning but on
participation. Where fostering friendships and sharing
experiences are more important than medals and ribbons.

And it's one organization that Toyota is very proud to be part
of.

Through donations, fundraising, and by providing volunteers,
Toyota is helping ensure that New York's special athletes like
Kelly get the chance to prove to the world and more importantly
to themselves, that no obstacle is too high to jump. And that no
race, including the human race, is ever to far to run.

So what comes next for Kelly Ann?

"The World Games, hopefully," beams the young athlete. "I've
already started my training."

And after that, who knows. But whatever it is, we're pretty sure
Kelly Ann Kettles will leap that bridge when she comes to it.

Toyota...Investing In the Individual

With a tip of our ABLEnews hat to Toyota and all the folks that
make the Special Olympics so truly special,

...For further information, contact CURE, 812 Stephen Street, Berkeley
Springs, West Virginia 254511 (304-258-LIFE/5433).

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