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From: stxtnt@rs733.GSFC.NASA.Gov (Nigel Tzeng)
Subject: Re: MAD magazine and in-lining (was Re: Braking in general w/inlines)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md, USA
	<1993Jan17.200034.10988@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <C12HGM.8w3@csn.org>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:55:18 GMT

In article <C12HGM.8w3@csn.org> pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:

>(Ken  Cantrell) writes:
>>As to stopping instantaneously, I know of no way though.  If you are going
>>to go REALLY fast, make sure to keep a watch on where you're going.  

>MAD magazine discusses this in their current issue. I believe that the
>stopping technique has something to do with a brick wall. The consequences of
>use of such a technique are illustrated on the front cover.

I hate the ask this but isn't a brick wall an instantaneous stop in
the FAQ?  All kidding aside using walls (cars, vans, etc) is a good
emergency stop technique...if you learn how.  It beats getting run
over...

Anyway the quick synopsis in case it's not in the FAQ is to hold your
arms out with elbows slightly bent fingers extended but pointing up.
When the tips of the fingers hit the wall turn your head and do a push
up (well add tension to the arms to break the impact).  We've
practiced at 7-10 mph and I've done it once as a test at maybe a
little faster (say 12-14).  At the higher speed it knocks the wind out
of you, hurts you chest and scrapes the heck out out your toes but
your face doesn't get hurt and you don't break your arms :) I doubt if
I like to try at 15+ mph though...at some point your head will hit the
wall...

It does work against the sides of vans...a friend turned a corner that
is normally empty to find the side of a van in close proximity.
Didn't get his arms all the way out but remembered to turn his head :)
Nothing bruised but his ego...

>--phil

Nigel
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From: thole@cs.rulimburg.nl (Johan Thole)
Subject: Re: NEW World Records!!! Koss: 6.38.77 :-) Zandstra: 156.882
Organization: University of Limburg, Maastricht
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:11:23 GMT

bjornmu@idt.unit.no (Bj|rn P. Munch) writes:

>From the European "all-round" speed-skating championships in Herenveen:

>Falco Zandstra (NED) also went below the previous record; he clocked
>in at 6.40.01 in the next pair.  He couldn't beat Koss' finish...

Congratulations for J.O. Koss. But the 10000m between Koss and Zandstra was
also very interesting, wasn't it?

>Zandstra won both the 500m, the 1500m and the 10000m, setting a new
>combination world record with 156.882 points.

>Of course, Koss will beat him in the world championship @Hamar in
>three weeks :-)

I wish him good luck; He'll need it ;-)

>If there is any interest (and if I find the time), I can post more
>results, both men's and women's.

Yes, yes! I will start with the last twelf male skaters (for the curious,
the last twelf skaters after three distances may skate the 10000m).

		    500m       5000m        1500m        10000m        total
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Zandstra (Nl)   37.90 (1)  6.40.01 (2)  1.52.90 (1)  13.46.96 (1)  156.882
2. Koss (No)       38.29 (5)  6.38.77 (1)  1.53.76 (3)  13.57.49 (4)  157.961
3. Ritsma (Nl)     38.00 (3)  6.43.61 (4)  1.53.52 (2)  13.56.92 (3)  158.047
4. Veldkamp (Nl)   39.33 (14) 6.41.86 (3)  1.56.92 (12) 13.49.81 (2)  159.979
5. Sighel (It)*    37.95 (2)  6.55.84 (6)  1.56.09 (7)  14.24.45 (7)  161.452
6. Johansen (No)   38.86 (9)  6.56.84 (7)  1.56.59 (10) 14.19.26 (6)  162.370
7. Horvath (Ru)    39.09 (12) 6.56.99 (8)  1.56.31 (8)  14.18.82 (5)  162.500
8. Adeberg (Ge)    38.24 (4)  7.01.13 (14) 1.54.62 (4)  14.49.19 (12) 163.018
9. Szafranski (Po) 38.92 (10) 6.59.83 (11) 1.56.05 (6)  14.38.04 (10) 163.488
10.Bengtsonn (Sw)  40.78 (24) 6.58.82 (10) 1.59.58 (20) 14.25.52 (8)  165.798
11.Radke (Po)      41.16 (25) 6.54.58 (5)  2.18.04 (26) 14.29.62 (9)  172.112
12.Sondral (No)    67.04 (27) 6.58.04 (9)  1.55.15 (5)  14.43.51 (11) 191.402

* interesting; the Italian skater Roberto Sighel is sponsored by the Dutch
  village ``Dwingeloo'', partly because he (the world-champion) could not
  find a sponsor in Italy!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you have time for the results of the female skaters, I would be glad to
see them here.

>Bj|rn P. Munch

Johan Thole
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From: werdna@iastate.edu (Mr. Albinger)
Subject: Re: Warning: Bearing Cleaning
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:12:55 GMT

In <1k7upoINNbgj@tamsun.tamu.edu> bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent Burton) writes:

>jss@bofur.unh.edu (Spectre) writes:
>|In article <36020011@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM> cfb@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Charlie Brett) writes:
>|>You can use a variety of methods to dry them (ie. oven, compressed air,
>|>water displacing lubricant). I just seized up 4 bearings because I did not
>|
>| [...use drill to spin bearings in cleaner...]
>|different times.  It works wonderfully!!  I was able to get totally frozen
>|bearings to run clean this way, and these bearings had sand and everything
>|in them (I used to skate on the beach, and all the sand got into my bearings)

>Good idea.

>From repairing many, many bearings, here's what I'd do.  (These repairs
>were done at a rink, so there wasn't the grit that exists outside.  Adjust
>as needed).

>Remove the bearings from the wheel, remove one of the bearing caps with
>a knife, icepick, etc.  (These are your average NMB bearings,etc).
>Soak the bearings in cleaner (Varsol, gas) to loosen crud, free bearing.
>Use an air compressor to blast the bits out.  Hold the bearing with
>thumb and index finger in one hand, use the other hand to blast the air
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>onto the bearing, spinning it.  This frees up the junk *real* fast and
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!!!
I know of two people who have had bearing parts surgically removed from
their body (head & shoulder) after the bearing broke from over stress.
These bearings were not ment to spin at the rates that compressed air will
cause.  DON'T do it!

[ Rest of artical deleted. ]


>-Brent
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>+-------------------------+
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Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: john@azulita.cactus.org (John R. Miller)
Subject: Adult figure skaters [was Re: Who's who of net.figure.skaters]
Organization: none
	<jkaplenk.727632257@lucpul.it.luc.edu>
	<1993Jan22.193756.24385@dvorak.amd.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 07:42:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.193756.24385@dvorak.amd.com> erussell@dvorak.amd.com (Ed Russell) writes:
   What bugs me about this is that the COACHES as well as ISIA and USFSA have
   a completely different set of standards for adults.  Not that I don't think
   that the tests shouldn't be different in USFSA - but rather that passing
   should be passing should be passing no matter what!  I don't want to pass
   a test more easily than I would if I were 30 years younger.

You want testing to be the same for adults as for kids.  That sounds
admirable.  My experience has been that the testing standards are no
easier for adults.  I'm referring to the normal USFSA tests.  I have
little experience with ISIA and none with USFSA adult tests.  As for
your coaches, your relationship them is largely your own doing.
Certainly, as an adult you have a better chance of negotiating the
relationship you want than does an eight year old.

   I am also a little bugged that adult skaters do not have a USFSA national
   competition to go to!  Where is it?  We need one!  ISIA has one (of sorts).

But you want adults to have their own special competition.  Why?
These two positions seem inconsistent.  Adults can of course compete
in the Senior events (and for that matter Junior and Novice as well).
Some regions (and some sections also?) include special adult events.
I can certainly understand the desire to skate for a medal without
having to slug it out with the youngsters, but surely this suggests
one does not really want to be taken quite seriously.  That the USFSA
might conclude from this that the testing standards should also be
less strict wouldn't seem outrageous.

I can understand both points of view.  I'm just trying to see which
yours is.
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: plheron@ecemw6.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: NEED more SPEED.
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:01:35 GMT

I'm new to in-line skating and own a pair of cool-blades. (If I was 
more aware at the time, I probably should have been thinking
AERO-blades).  Its getting time for me to replace my wheels, the 
question is,  can I fit 908's on my cool-blade frames?  Will the 
same bearings from my 808's fit in the 908's?  

other random questions; 

	Can someone please give me info regarding the Triange In-Line 
	Skating Club?

	How can I get power into my understroke when doing a front 
	cross-over? 

	I looked at the FAQ and I'm still a bit confused regarding 
	bearings.  Are all ABEC-3 bearings sealed, and thus slower than 
	ABEC-1 bearing, even though the #3's are better bearing?  If 
	not, who markets a better bearing?  How do they compare (price 
	and perfomance) with the bearings that came on my cool-blades? 

		Thanks for your help, 

				-Pat.
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: skate street hockey
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:33:36 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <werdna.727977721@vincent1.iastate.edu> werdna@iastate.edu (Mr. Albinger) writes:
> There are a group of us here at Iowa State University who have never played 
> hockey but want to.  Could anyone e- mail me advice/rules/information on
> how to play street hockey.  

The best advice is simply to start playing, with whatever approximation
of Hockey rules is agreeable.  Once you get comfortable with the skating
and stick action, then start getting persnickity about the rules.

Probably the most important rules (from a safety/habit point of view) are
to watch out for high sticks, body contact and interfering/crowding the
(acting) goal tender.  Some kind of helmet and knee/elbow protection are
required for the street, after a few hard shots, some people may find a
cup and pads desireable.

> Also,  Do most inline skaters rocker their skates?  any advice on rockering?

Rockering skates makes the feel more like figures skates or conventional
rollers skates.  Someone used to these skates will probably like the
rockered feel.  Un-rockered, they are more stable and perhaps less
maneuverable.  Some Hockey players go one way and some go the other.

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.skate
From:  ()
Subject: Another Who's Who
Followup-To: rec.skate
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:39:29 GMT

I am enjoying reading about other skaters on this list.  I have just
recently subscribed to this news group because my daughter is getting
seriously into skating.

She is 5 years old and has been skating nearly 2 years.  She is working on
passing Delta at the moment and preparing for a competition next week.  She
really seems to enjoy skating but I think what hooked her was doing her
first solo exhibition about a year ago.  She couldn't believe everyone was
clapping for her!  Since then she has been hooked and likes to skate all
the time and watches it whenever it is on tv.

She has competed in 3 competitions and has won 4 gold medals.  She was very
dissappointed when she won her second gold - "I already have a gold - I
wanted a silver".  It is refreshing to see the total lack of stress and
competitiveness in her now.  I know that will come later but for now it is
all just fun.

I must say that I am getting into the "rink mom" bit as well.  It's fun
sitting around with the other moms while my daughter gets her private
lessons.

BTW I really appreciate all the postings from the experts about all the
jumps and how to tell them apart.  While we are only at the waltz jump and
half flip stage, I know the days of the more complicated jumps aren't too
far away.  While I have never forced my daughter to skate, I hope she keeps
up with it (it is totally her decision) because I think she has a lot of
fun and so do I.

Nikki Meyer
Nashville, TN
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: dbd@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.b.delorme)
Subject: Outdoor Skating in Ontario
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:59:03 GMT

I'll be going to Toronto in mid-February for a winter vacation
and I'd like some information good places to skate.  Are there 
any full length speedskating tracks around there?  I was even
considering driving to some of the other cities in Ontario.
My main interests are skating, hockey and winter sports.  My
wifes main interests are history and site-seeing.  I thought
Ottawa might be a good place to go for both of our interests.

I'd appreciate any information on skating, hockey, or anything
else of interest that's going on around Ontario in February.

Please post or e-mail responses to me.  

David DeLorme
AT&T Bell Labs
att!cblpo!dbd
614 860-2019
From: icedance@carson.u.washington.edu (Ann Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Partial Results--U.S. Nationals (Ice)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:58:08 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

I found some results from Nationals in the Seattle Post-Intellegencer. 
No write-up, though, just lists of results.  These are from Wed. & Fri.

Senior Ladies-Compulsory Figures
1.  Kelly Ann Szmurlo
2.  Carese Busby (from Seattle area)
tie Kristin Meyer
4.  Karen Gooley
5.  Jennifer Blount
5.  Sharon Sargent (same total ordinals)
7.  Natalie Thomas
tie Sharon Cercone
tie Sarah Beth Gendreau (from Seattle area)
10. Dawn Jensen
11. Nicole Pelant
12. Heidi Green (from Seattle area)

Novice Ladies-Technical Program
1.  Amanda Ward
2.  Brittney McConn
3.  Tiffany Chan
4.  Meredith Cataldo
5.  Sue Lee
6.  Stephanie Stiegler
7.  Carrie Wolak

Novice Ladies-Free Skate
1.  Ward; 2.  Chan;  3.  McConn; 4.  Lee

Novice Ladies-Final Standings
1.  Ward; 2.  Chan;  3.  McConn;  4.  Lee;  5.  Cataldo;  6.  Stiegler

Junior Ladies-Technical Program
1.  Michelle Cho
2.  Jenna Pittman
3.  Teresa Aiello
4.  Tanya Street

Novice Dance-Free Dance
1.  Eve Chalom & Matthew Gates
2.  Kristina Feliciano & Alex Jacoby
3.  Julieanna Sacchetti & Oleg Fediukov
4.  Tami Tyler & Stith Letsinger

Novice Dance-Final Standings
1. Chalom-Gates; 2. Feliciano-Jacoby; 3. Sacchette-Fediukov; 4.
Tyler-Letsinger; 5. Suberk-Frey
(note 2nd and 3rd had the same total ordinals listed in the paper, so they
must have used a tie-breaker to get the final placements)

Senior Dance-Compulsories
1.  Renee Roca & Gorsha Sur
2.  Susan Wynne & Russ Witherby
3.  Rachel Mayer & Peter Breen
tie Elizabeth Punsalan & Jarod Swallow
tie Amy Webster & Ron Kravette (all three couples had the same total
				ordinals listed)

Senior Dance-Orginal Dance
1.  Roca-Sur;  2.  Wynne-Witherby;  3.  Punsalan-Swallow
...
18.  Michelle Maler & Tony Darnell (from Seattle)

Senior Dance-Standing after compulsaries and Original Dance
1, 2, 3, same as Original Dance
4.  Webster-Kravette;  5.  Mayer-Breen;  18.  Maler-Darnell

Junior Pairs-Technical Program
1.  Stephanie Stiegler & Lance Travis
2.  Cheryl Marker & Todd Price
3.  Robin Heckler & Jeff Tilley
4.  Liberte Sheldon & Ross Scott
5.  Ann Ramos & Benjamin Oberman
6.  Erin Covington & Brandon Powell (from Portland, Oregon)
7.  Nicole Batson-Rock & Keith Tindall

Junior Pairs-Free Skate
1.  Stiegler & Travis
2.  Heckler & Tilley
3.  Sheldon & Scott

Junior Pairs-Final Standings
1.  Stiegler & Travis
2.  Heckler & Tilley
3.  Sheldon & Scott
4.  Marker & Price
5.  Covington & Powell

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: vs55212@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Venus Sinn )
Subject: US National Championship results!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:19:38 GMT


The 1993 US Figure Skating Championship results:

Ladies' :

*  1. Nancy Kerrigan
*  2. Lisa Ervin
*  3. Tonia Kwaikowski
   4. Tonya Harding-Gilloly
   5. Nicole Bobek

Men's :

*  1. Scott Davis
*  2. Mark Mitchell
   3. Michael Chack
   4. Aren Nielsen

Pairs' :

*  1. Calla Urbanski and Rocky Marvel
*  2. Jenni Meno and Todd Sand
   3. Karen Courtland and Todd Reynolds

Dance :

*  1. Renee Roca and Gorsha Sur
*  2. Susie Wynne and Russ Witherby
   3. Elizabeth Punsalan and Jerod Swallow
   4. Amy Webster and Ron Kravette


*qualified for the World Championship team





Venus

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: kcantrel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Cantrell)
Subject: Re: MAD magazine and in-lining (was Re: Braking in general w/inlines)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 16:21:31 GMT

>>(Ken  Cantrell) writes:
>>>As to stopping instantaneously, I know of no way though.  If you are going
>>>to go REALLY fast, make sure to keep a watch on where you're going.
>>MAD magazine discusses this in their current issue. I believe that the
>>stopping technique has something to do with a brick wall. The consequences of
>>use of such a technique are illustrated on the front cover.
[....]
>Anyway the quick synopsis in case it's not in the FAQ is to hold your
>arms out with elbows slightly bent fingers extended but pointing up.
>When the tips of the fingers hit the wall turn your head and do a push
>up (well add tension to the arms to break the impact).  We've
>practiced at 7-10 mph and I've done it once as a test at maybe a
>little faster (say 12-14).  At the higher speed it knocks the wind out
>of you, hurts you chest and scrapes the heck out out your toes but
>your face doesn't get hurt and you don't break your arms :) I doubt if
>I like to try at 15+ mph though...at some point your head will hit the
>wall...
>
>>--phil
>
>Nigel
>--
>Nigel Tzeng
>.sig under construction

I had a friend try this on accident, at about 17 or 18 miles an hour.  He
ended up with a compression fracture or such -- it "scrunched" his bone
together.  It CAN be done, but this isn't something I'd like to practice.


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From: tjks@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Tim Kloth)
Subject: Home Coffee Bean Roaster
Organization: AT&T Network Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:52:22 GMT
Summary: FOUND AT LAST !!


I revisited the Coffee & Tea Exchange in Chicago over the weekend
and they now carry a coffee bean roaster for home use.  It's
a Melita.  I asked the clerk if this was the same model that
Melita had been making for some time (the one with all the
problems).  He said it was a new model.  It comes with 1/4 lb.
of green beans.  I tried it out as soon as I got home.
Works pretty good.  The chaff collector on the top didn't
get all the stuff but only a small amount got out.  You 
control the roast by time.  I let it run 17 min and got a medium
roast.  The book says 8-10 min for a light roast, up to 30 min.
for espresso.  The roaster comes with a little cup to measure
the beans (it's about 2/3 of a measuring cup).
Here's the info:
	Melita AromaRoast Electric Coffee Bean Roaster,
	Model No. CBR-10, $39.95

	The Coffee & Tea Exchange
	3300 N. Broadway
	Chicago, IL 60657
	312-528-2241

Enjoy.

-- 
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708-979-0892	Naperville, Il		
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Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
Subject: Re: Absinthe
From: jwise@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (Jeff Wise)
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:22:53 PST
Followup-To: rec.food.drink
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield
Keywords: Absinthe, Tarts
Summary: Absinthe and Tarts

In article <wfNTo=C00Vok0JG6wf@andrew.cmu.edu> Elliott Conan Evans <ee0r+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>parvin1@husc11.harvard.edu (Douglas Parvin) writes:
>> derose@a.chem.upenn.edu (Paul DeRose) writes:
>> >       Absinthe is a distillate of wormwood. It has a narcotic effect
>> >and is addicting. It was given to prostitutes by their pimps in
>> >France during the late 19th and early 20th century.
>> 
>> Hmm. I suppose that means that Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder...
>
>Absinthe makes the heart grow *fainter*.
>
How about "Absinthe makes the tart grow fonder."

--
Jeff Wise  jwise@sparc1.csubak.edu
"Never send a monster to do the work of an evil scientist!"
--
Sure I speak for CSUB, and I have tickets to the submarine races at
China Lake Naval Weapons Center, too.
(For those of you who don't know, CLNWC is the Mojave Desert area.)

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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: A stupid question about wine.
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:43:51 GMT

In article <C1Furw.44q@javelin.sim.es.com> cdimick@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>   Rumor amongst my friends has it that wine contains a small amount of lead
>which is the reason why most people get headaches after drinking.  Does this
>have any validity, or is she does spouting out the mouth?  (She claims to
>have heard it from several people, so it must be popular opinion.)  Replies
>appreciated.
> 

the lead in wine that has been hitting the newspapers lately is not _in_ 
the wine but in the lead seal wrapped around the neck of the bottle to help
keep the cork in, etc

if your friend has been reading the papers, and if either you or your 
friend go to the store lately you should see a poster/diagram talking
about the seal and that it may cause some lead poisoning - to eliminate 
this chance (or cut it _way_ down): 
1) remove the lead seal entirely
2) using a damp cloth, wash/wipe the entire surface where the lead 
   wrapper may have touched, in and around the cork
3) remove the cork
4) using a clean section of the damp cloth, clean the inside lip of 
   the bottle 
5) pour and enjoy the wine



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