HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: carasso@netcom.com (RDC)
Subject: PARTICLE MAN
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 02:27:08 GMT
Organization: PTA BOARD COUNCIL OF THE GREATER UNITED STATES





i am dual man duel with me i duel dual with hands and fist 
i am cool man duel with me i duel cool with charm and fist
i am pool man duel with me i duel pool with stick and fist
i am trek man duel with me i duel trek with drool and lisp

...carasso "a national treasure"



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Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: middle@cse.uta.edu (William J Middleton)
Subject: Re: I'm grumpy!
Followup-To: talk.bizarre,rec.arts.disney
Summary: the IN crowd
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Univ. of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa,rules,france,sucks,world
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 06:57:24 GMT


In article <1992Apr7.045141.15368@news.Hawaii.Edu> rigler@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Somme Mersault) writes:
>>Small writes:
>>>...I'll be grumpy... 
>
>>Gooley writes:
>>I'm Doc.
>
>>Carasso writes;      [in a rare, bleating form]
>>I'd like to be Humpy.
>
>And I'll be Sleazy.
>
>--
> Rigler                         Les Etats du Marqaha

queezy

bILL


Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (BILLY JOE BISSETTE)
Subject: Re: #'OE9d(P0^Lg@ICM
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:00:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.042215.20554@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields) writes:

Look everyone, someone posted a full-body smiley of Marge Simpson.

-- 
----------bill the clueless, bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu
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What do you mean, "The Swedish Chef got him."  Stop Gadget Hammer!
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From: chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov (Chuck Adams)
Subject: Re: Stewie, this is your life!
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:42:57 GMT

Youngie, is that you?????????







               Chuck Adams,  WB5WRR   (The Puhpxfgre)
                Internet:  chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov
   Disclaimer:  Not an official document of DOE, SSCL, URA or EG&G
                   "Curses!  Flamed Again"  - me
From: carasso@netcom.com (RDC)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: ORIENTAL
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:09:10 GMT
Followup-To: talk.bizarre,misc.test,soc.culture.china
Organization: PTA BOARD COUNCIL OF THE GREATER UNITED STATES

1) Oriental could be an Oriental word.
2) Orientals often switch the pronounciation of their R's and L's.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Q.E.D. The correct term could be "Olientar".


carasso "it could happen!"
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From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Subject: me (part II, the last part)
Organization: Mentor Graphics, Silicon Design Division
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:50:31 GMT

Recently I've been thinking a lot about life, you know?  Like, my life
and how my life changes and about how I grew up, if I grew up, and how
things along the way effected my growing up.  Then I started to think
about how a person is nothing but the sum of their experiences.  I
mean, I am "me" because of all the things, good things, bad things, you
know? the things, the events that I've been through, been in, had
happen around me.  Then I started to try to find what events were major
influences and minor influences in the sum of events that make me
"me".  Then it hit me.  It must have been the professor.  I mean, he
was such a survivor.  All the others thought that they wouldn't make
it, but the professor, he really made things happen.  That had such a
big effect on my outlook on life.  Others would figure that they were
never going to get off the island but the professor would find two
coconuts and some string and after a day or so they'd have a working
radio, so they'd know when rescue crews were near.  And he was such a
loaner.  I mean, Mary-Ann and Ginger always hung out together, the
Howells, well, they were married.  Even the Skipper had Gilligan, his
"little buddy".  But the professor, the professor was a loner!  He
didn't need anyone to get by.  Then I think about how I'm a loner, and
about how I'm a survivor and I think about what it would be like to be
on Gilligan's island.  First of all, why was it HIS island?  I mean, it
really wasn't anyone's island, was it?  And if it was really
Gilligan's, maybe he was just a benevalent ruler.  If it was my island,
I wouldn't have let the Skipper push me around like that.  I wouldn't
have let Mrs. Howell make be get her breakfast every morning.  But then
I think: what if the professor was king of the island?  What if it was
"Professor's Island"?  That's what it would most be like if I were king
of the island.  It would be run like a science vessel, like a
science-based government like in those science fiction books that
friends of mine tell me about.  The professor would have coordinated
their resources into a big effort to build a boat to get them off the
island.  But no, the others knew that that would end the series and
they'd all be unemployeed.  Yes, another example of science being
stalled as a result of other people trying to further their personal
fortunes.

Ever notice how rarely you hear the word "silt"?

-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) -- tal@plts.uucp (play)
"Tax cuts don't do any good for someone who is out of work," Gov. Bruce
Sundlun, D-R.I., said in denouncing Bush's economic rescue plan as woefully
inadequate.  "They don't need a tax cut.  They need a job." Feb 3, 1992
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: waldbyjf@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Gribbett Schnibbett)
Subject: Re: Instant karma's gonna get ya
Reply-To: waldbyjf@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:07:55 GMT

In article <1843@asuvax.eas.asu.edu> ra@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Starcap'n Ra)  
writes:
>waldbyjf@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Gribbett Schnibbett) writes:
>> 
>> What song is this, and who is the author:
>> 
>> "Though I'm dressed in rags, I'll wear sable some day"
>
>     "Ragdoll" by Frankie Valee.
>
>     Now eat some more shit.
>

Um nope, sorry.  Hope that wasn't serious.  At least that wasn't the one I was  
thinking of.  Anyway, even if you do know who sang that one, you're still  
two-thirds crawling slime worm-shit, 'cause I know you can't get the other two.

--
Eat me, I'm a cream-filled Eclair
From: nj@magnolia.Berkeley.EDU (Narciso Jaramillo)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: non pro fun ditty
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:10:11 GMT
Organization: Postcarcinogenic Bliss, Inc.
Originator: nj@magnolia.Berkeley.EDU


Lots of things that call themselves "real" aren't.
Just about everything that calls itself "artificial" is.
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Alfvaen)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: INSTANT BEER!!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:56:49 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

==ROGER=CARASSO== writes
> 
> April 1, 1992, Wednesday
> ------------------------
> 
>    Alberta's Calgary Sun ran an April Fools' Day bogus ad announcing
> "an amazing breakthrough --- a concentrated dehydrated beer you can
> carry anywhere with you."
>    The ad contained instructions telling readers to cut around the
> dotted lines of a small box on the page (which supposedly contained
> samples of the concentrated beer), place it in a glass of cold water,
> and put the glass in a freezer for five minutes. The ad contained a
> phone number at the Sun.
>    According to Sun columnist John Gradon, the paper received 1,022
> calls from people who actually tried to make the "instant beer." Among
> the comments were there:
>    "I've even tried two papers and it still doesn't work."
>    "I've got two morons in my office looking at two glasses of water
> with paper in'em."
>    "It's kinda flat --- I'll leave it a little longer, I think."
>    One man actually ordered 150 extra copies of the paper, claiming he
> was going to have a party.
> 
> 
>   ____ __ ____ _ ____ ___ ___  
>  /    /_||___//_\\___ \___\  \ 
>  \___/  ||  \/   \___\ ___\\__\

Now you can understand why all us Edmontonians have such disdain for  
Calgarians.

Of course, that probably would've worked in the Edmonton Sun as well.

Well, at least those of us that don't read the Sun.  Or use Sun  
Workstations.

--

---Alfvaen(and no, this isn't my real name!)
Canadian Network For Space Research, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
If you stand on your head, you will get footprints in your hair.
Current Album--U2:War
 "It takes a second to say goodbye."
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (BILLY JOE BISSETTE)
Subject: Re: true blue
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:03:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.073012.23961@cse.uta.edu>, middle@cse.uta.edu (William J Middleton) writes:
|> bILL
|> and youre not
yes i am

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From: kenj@kambo.corp.sgi.com (Ken Jones)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: me (part I)
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:13:04 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:

>Recently I've been thinking a lot about life, you know?  Like, my life
>and how my life changes and about how I grew up, if I grew up, and how
>things along the way effected by growing up.  Then I started to think
>about how a person is nothing but the sum of their experiences.  I
>mean, I am "me" because of all the things, good things, bad things, you
>know?  the events that I've been through, been in, had happen around
>me.  Then I started to try to find what events were major influences
>and minor influences in the sum of events that make me "me".  Then it
>hit me.

>A truck.

Been there.  Did it.  Not worth it.

- Ken
From: jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Predictions (Was Re: a killfile meditation)
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:20:14 GMT
Organization: Misanthropes-R-Us

Some predictions:

In <willimsa.702507236@unix1.tcd.ie> willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams) writes:
>In <1992Apr02.215317.14456@sunhillo.uucp> olias@sunhillo.uucp (Mitch Gorman) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr1.191120.22094@shinobu.sgi.com> cj@eno.corp.sgi.com (C J Silverio) babbles:
>>>So now I killfile people wantonly.  Randomly.  At the
>>>slightest provocation.  My killfile is huge.
>>Post it.

*plonk*

>Yeah, post it!! :-)

*plonk*
Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: holzman@fnalno.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Tyson's sentence
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:09:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.192255.6135@coopsol.com>, gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon 
Storga) writes:
> If Tyson really feels he is innocent then why the hell would or should he
> act as though he is guilty?  If I get framed for murder and convicted,
> should I start acting like I'm sorry I killed the person?

If Tyson does not feel that he has committed rape, then he should not behave as
if he feels that he did.  However, if Tyson does not feel that he has committed
rape, then there is a good chance that he will do so again.  Thus it behooves
society in this case to keep him isolated from society.

> been found guilty, I don't dispute that.  But sixty years!  Heck, there
> are _murderers_ out there who get less than a third of that.  The guy
> sentenced to die this weekend in California served only two years for his
> first murder.

Err... Tyson was given six years, out of possible thirty.  WHat case are you
following?
-- 
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Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer)
Subject: Re: how to support a friend who has been raped ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 07:21:10 GMT

     I have found that the best way to support a friend who has been raped is 
to more or less ignore the situation. . . 
 
      No, really.  YOU ignore the situation.  It's up to her to ask for help
or to talk with you if she wishes.  You should listen if she wants to talk,
but I've foudn that making the issue greater than it is oftentimes causes
more problems than it solves. 
 
      Now mind, this is for nonprofessionals, who should rememeber first and
foremost that they are nonprofessionals.  A psychologist/psychiatrist who 
ignored a rape in therapy would be pretty damn silly. . . but a friend's job 
is to be a friend, not a god.
 
     You can help her best by simply being there for her when you can. . . 
and when listening to her, just sympathizing. . .you don't have to threaten
revenge, you don't have to get mad or sad or anything. . . so don't try.  Be
yourself and just listen. . .and if there's anything she asks you to do, 
consider it.
 
     But if you try to do more, well, you could make her think that there's a
whole lot more to the crime than there is. . . or that you see her as
damaged (well, she is HURT, but not damaged, if you catch my drift) or
any one of a number of things.
 
                                        John

-- 
"Love is cool; I mean, like, really cool.  Like, the coolest thing in
the universe, where, like, people open up inside and show the world how
they feel, and they ain't afraid someone's gonna laugh because they, like,
love themselves already!"  --Personality 42, a generic 60's philosopher
From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: how to support a friend who has been raped ?
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:48:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: explorer.92Apr12.124750edt.144354
Organization: Dynamic Graphics Project, University of Toronto

jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer) writes:
>YOU ignore the situation.  It's up to her to ask for help or to talk with you
>if she wishes.  You should listen if she wants to talk, but I've found that
>making the issue greater than it is oftentimes causes more problems than it
>solves.

Fine, but you could also let her know that you're willing to be talked to about
it.  Most men would not be very good to talk to about this sort of thing
(flames to /dev/null).  If you're one of the men who are concerned about rape,
you can let women know that you're available for listening.  Say something like
"gosh that's terrible" or something suggestive of being supportive.  It often
works to state your intent specifically, e.g. "I'm not sure if you want to talk
about it or not, but if you do, I'm quite willing to listen."  (But *not*
followed by an expectant pause.)
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: fraternities
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:25:03 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Apr15.182855.14326@midway.uchicago.edu>, gross@befvax.uchicago.edu writes:
> In article <15APR199213520864@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:

>>I'll buy that, Mike.  Here in Ohio we've had two recent cases...one was a 
>>twelve year old that raped a six year old.  I just have to wonder where 
>>they learn it.  When *I* was twelve, I was still beating up the boys during 
>>recess.
> 
> Maybe he learns it from being beaten up during recess.
> 
> Attitudes about violence have to change as well, not just about sexual
> violence.
> 

I *really* think that was just a figure of speech. You're right, violence is
wrong, but I rather suspect there will always be *some* violence in the world,
and I rather doubt that any boys Theresa terrorized on the playground are
hiding some dreadful Freudian resentment. I was small whan I was younger, and
used to get terrorized on occasion by the odd girl (One in particular, whom
I took to calling Mary Jane Railbender, she was so bad for scaring the hell 
outta me ;-).
Mike
From: holzman@fnalo.fnal.gov (Daniel B. Holzman)
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: Tyson's sentence
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:33:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab

In article <1992Apr10.175728.12523@midway.uchicago.edu>, 
gross@befvax.uchicago.edu writes:
> But for each day of good behavior he gets one day of his sentence. 
> So assuming he behaves 'good' every day, he will get out in 3 years.

So far, he doesn't seem to be shortening his sentence any.

-- 
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                                     | All Acts of Love and Pleasure are
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Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: rcl3r@helga2.acc.Virginia.EDU (Robert C. Lewis)
Subject: Re: Life, Defined and Otherwise (Addendum)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:37:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.184035.2345@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> zimmer@lonestar.utsa.edu (Nancy A. Zimmerman) writes:
>If you want to believe because of your religious upbringing that suffering
>enriches human life,  

most religions ascribe to this belief.  which belief needs to be eradicated?

>that's your right, but you do not have the right
>to inflict your religious beliefs on other people 

this is a universal truth to be understood by all who profess a religion.
>Perhaps if you could understand what it is like to carry
>a child in your body, and what that really means, you would understand
>this.

i do not think it is reasonable to expect, or even imagine, that any
man can know this.  it is necessary to speak the language of your
audience.  otherwise, your breath is wasted.

rob


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From: 00mkmcculler@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re:  Tyson's sentence
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:04:29 GMT

As a female, I feel that Tyson's sentence is fair.  If anything, it seems
lenient to me.  I know that no amount of hard time could ever make up for what
he did to Ms. Washington.  Like most celebrites these days, Tyson seemed to
think that he was above the law.  Ms. Washington did a very courageous thing
by filing charges.  It's not an easy thing to have the most private, secret
things of your life exposed to a courtroom and often a merciless defense
attorney.  

Maybe I"m ignorant, or uninformed, but I was led to believe that the sentence
handed down to Mike Tyson was CONSISTANT with the sentences of other CONVICTED
rapists in Patricia Gifford's (sp) court.  I do not pretend to know if he is
innocent or guilty, but unless the Appellate Courts overturn the decision, he
is a convicted rapist, and deserves the same punishment as any other rapist.

I'm sorry, but most of my sympathy lies with the victim, Ms. Washington, not
the criminal.


M. McCullers

email:  00mkmcculler@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu

These opinions are my own.  
If you agree, more power to ya.
If not, oh well.
Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: rcl3r@helga2.acc.Virginia.EDU (Robert C. Lewis)
Subject: Re: Life, Defined and Otherwise (Addendum)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:39:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.034742.19159@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bi477@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil Sherman) writes:
>
>	4.  As horrible as is the crime of rape, it does not
>		in and of itself excuse a subsequent abortion.
>
>		I really do not know the answer to how one 
>		might deal with a pregnancy by rape, except that
>		since all things are part of God's plan, perhaps
>		that child has a very special place in the world.

i would like to find one, just one child born of rape who was not
subsequently mistreated out of anger toword the rapist and who
theirself came out normal (or somewhat normal).  
>
>		More likely though, the woman who through her
>		suffering still brings that child into the world
>		will receive many graces for having done God's
>		will despite great difficulty.
>

i hope that you are not saying the rape itself was in god's plan.  if
so, what sort of god is it that destroys a woman's life, and makes her
spend the duration of her life caring for something she resents.  this
is not fair to either the mother or to the child.  both parties suffer
for the rest of their lives.  a loving god would want to reduce the 
suffering of both parties.  

>Gil
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From: farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf)
Subject: Re: fraternities
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 19:23:23 GMT

aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:
>
>I'll buy that, Mike.  Here in Ohio we've had two recent cases...one was a 
>twelve year old that raped a six year old.  I just have to wonder where 
>they learn it.  When *I* was twelve, I was still beating up the boys during 
>recess.
>I *know* that rape isn't about sex, it's about power.  But where does a 
>twelve year old boy learn that?

Maybe from the same place where you learned it's okay to beat up the
boys during recess.

When children learn that it's fine to use violence, why are surprised
at the modes the violence takes?

Newsgroups: talk.rape
From: holzman@fnalno.fnal.gov (Daniel B. Holzman)
Subject: Re: Tyson's sentence
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:13:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.183153.10981@coopsol.com>, gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon 
Storga) writes:
>>Err... Tyson was given six years, out of possible thirty.  WHat case are you
>>following?
> 
> I believe Tyson was sentenced to 60 (it might have been thirty) years 
> *originally*, but that a lot of it was reduced by the judge.  Alton, the 
> guy sentenced to death was given 12 years, reduced to 2, for murder.

You are incorrect.

The maximum possible sentence would have been 30 years (3 10 year sentences,
served consecutively).  What Tyson got, as was well reported, was 3 10 year
sentences, with the last 4 years suspended, served concurrently, in addition to
a $30,000 fine.
-- 
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HOLZMAN@FNAL.BITNET                  | An It Harm None, Do What You Will
HOLZMAN@FNALC.FNAL.GOV.INTERNET      |
                                     | All Acts of Love and Pleasure are
Love doesn't subtract,               | Her Rituals
   it multiplies    - Heinlein       |
TEAM STAR Charter Member             | Saddam Hussein still has a job.  Do you?
Disclaimer:  Fermilab's far too large to have an opinion, let alone mine.