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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Rush's worst song
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:32:35 GMT

In article <102343@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>
>PERHAPS WE COULD KILL THIS PATHETIC THREAD AND GET ON WITH ANOTHER?
>
>
>Sincerely :)
>
>Gregg

	Here Here..... ;-)

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From: bungy@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason Allen Bungert)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Film scores
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:11:15 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <BxvArJ.I6D@ns1.nodak.edu> abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson) writes:
>
>In a Rockline interview someone asked Geddy about film soundtracks, Ged
>commented on the fact that while they are not disinterested in doing it
>they aren't going out of their way to do it.  The point is they are doing real
>music, not backing up some lame movie! As far as I am concerned doing 
>movie soundtracks means you can't make it any other way.
>-- 
>Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University 
>       Sorry if I sound stupid I just don't have my FAQ's straight         
>        "Ladies and Gentlemen the Professor on the drum kit" -Ged
>                      abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (INTERNET)  
>                      abrahams@plains           (BITNET)


Okay, I heard that Rockline interview, and that is exactly what Geddy said.
Movie soundtracks are NOT a backup plan for most good musicians.  Some 
people do them just because they need a diversion from their other musical
interests.  Eric Clapton recently did the soundtrack for the movie "Rush",
and Dire Straits' lead guitarist and songwriter, Mark Knopfler has done
three scores that I know of.  The point is that it's not a backup plan, just
a relief from their other stuff.  Rush doesn't need a break, because their 
style is extremely varied already.  They write the songs that people should 
make the movies for instead of writing the songs to fit the movie.  Basically,
Rush just hasn't felt the need yet.  Just my $0.02 worth.

						-Bungy.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: ddrake@vela.acs.oakland.edu (dave drake)
Subject: Re: Quotes
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:06:01 GMT


From The Analog Kid on Signals:

	You move me -
	You move me -
	With your buildings and your eyes
	Autumn woods and winter skies
	You move me -
	You move me -
	Open sea and city lights
	Busy streets and dizzy heights
	You call me -
	You call me -
                                                            
To me this is the best part of a most skillfuly crafted song, the 
way the lyrics and music just _fit_.

Also, my job involves a considerable amount of travel, and I'm beginning
to see much more of this insignificant little planet we like to 
call home.  The lyrics sum up my feelings rather nicely.

--Dave O'Toole (on ddrake's login)
From: steveso@wpi.WPI.EDU (Steven C Sousa)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Favorite Song
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:39:09 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

	I can answer both favorite song and lyrics with two words :
			Entre Nous!!!
	I know it doesn't get much attention, but I love it. Side 2 of
Permanent Waves perfectly complements the hard-rocking side 1.

	"We are islands to each other,
	building hopeful bridges on a troubled sea.
	Some of them get swept away.
	Some we would not choose but we're not always free."

	I love to listen to this song right after Freewill and just think
about the two totally different perspectives of the two songs. The reason
I think Rush is the greatest band on the planet is that they are so deeply
philosophical in their lyrics, yet so gifted musically. Maybe it's because
Neil writes the lyrics while Geddy and Alex write the music
From: dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Witch Hunt
Keywords: Crazy ya-hoo
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:39:09 GMT
Organization: Shinola Industries: We know the difference.

Wow!  bbarton@Ingres.COM typed...
> 
> You'll have to forgive if this has been posted before, but my curiosity is
> killing me.
> 
> On MP you can hear some ya-hoo yelling something as soon as the boys start
> into "Witch Hunt" (which is obviously a live recording of one of their
> performances.)
> 
> The guy yells something that is almost discernable, but my hearing must be
> failing me.  For the life of me, I can't hear what he's yelling.  
> 
> Does anyone know?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Brian
> bbarton@ingres.com 

From the FAQ:

What is the mob saying at the beginning of "Witch Hunt"?

   "It is purposely mixed so that you cannot understand what is being
   said, but the tenor of the situation, the hatred, the ill-will, and
   the fear comes through loud and clear.  This effect was created by
   emptying the studio (in the middle of a snowy night) of production
   staff, road crew and band, and depositing everyone in the cold outside
   the isolated facility.  With tape recorders rolling, Neil gave his
   best fanatic's speech, gradually getting more and more whipped up as
   everyone involved let themselves get carried away."
         -- from _Visions_

   Here's how Alex Lifeson described that session in an interview called
   "In The Studio" from the MP era.

   "We went outside of Le Studio and it was so cold, it was really cold;
   we were well into December by then I think.  We were all out there.
   We put a couple of mics outside. We started..rauw..raew..wrow
   (starts mumbling), ranting and raving. We did a couple of tracks of
   that. I think we had a bottle of Scotch or something with us to keep
   us warm. So as the contents of the bottle became less and less,
   the ranting and raving took on a different flavor and you got little
   lines of...you remember Roger Ramjet (sp?), the cartoon Roger Ramjet?
   What was the bad guy's name...his gang of hoods, they always had
   these little things they would say whenever they were mumbling...
   mrrblaarrr..mrrblaarrr..crauss. It started to take all this...we
   were in the control room after we had layed down about twelve
   tracks of mob--in hysterics. Every once in awhile you'd hear
   somebody say something really stupid."

-- 
"I sing the Body Electric; The armies of those I love engirth me, and I
engirth them; They will not let me off till I go with them, respond to
them, and discorrupt them, and charge them full with the charge of the Soul."
 -- Walt Whitman                     dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson)
Subject: Re: LedZep and Rush
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:22:39 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <x!x1_mb@rpi.edu> heistp@aix.rpi.edu (Peter G. Heist Jr.) writes:
>
>Does anyone feel that it is a bit intellectually poor to compare apples and
>oranges?
>Aside from that Rush fans usually impress me with their "thinking" attitudes.

Now that is the most intellegent thought I've heard for awhile!
While Rush may have started sim. to Zep. Rush took a totally different
path, both groups are very good, just in different ways.
I'm glad someone said this! :-)))))))))

P.S. thanks for the compliment (being a Rush fan and all.....)

-- 
Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University 
       Sorry if I sound stupid I just don't have my FAQ's straight         
        "Ladies and Gentlemen the Professor on the drum kit" -Ged
                      abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (INTERNET)  
                      abrahams@plains           (BITNET)
From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Creative input in videos
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:53:27 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


I know everyone will kill me when I ask this but...

Everyone has been taking about these different videos and analyzing them and
such. I have only seen one Rush video - "Show Don't Tell" (actually, I saw
it on MTV about three years ago or so when they had a program called "Hard
30" which was suppose to be thirty minutes of heavy metal and hard rock).

Does Rush have a group of videos out that can be rented or purchased like,
say, at the local video store? I have seen the "Show of Hands" video
somewhere, but it wasn't in a videostore (I think it was actually on the
video rack in a K-mart - HOW RUDE!!) How easily can these be accessed? Or is
there a catalog that one can order from?

Help, help!

Jeffrey Moon
University of Rochester
New York
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: LedZep -again-
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:28:54 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

'Scuze me, while I yawn at attempted flame bait *yawn*...

-- 
        Ian Schmidt: irsman@iastate.edu or aol.com, BITNET: twbv4@isuvax       
  "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will." - Neil Peart
   Ask me about the GS<>IRC demo...better yet ask daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!
From: bungy@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason Allen Bungert)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: LedZep and Rush
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:15:10 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <x!x1_mb@rpi.edu> heistp@aix.rpi.edu (Peter G. Heist Jr.) writes:
>
>Does anyone feel that it is a bit intellectually poor to compare apples and
>oranges?
>
>Aside from that Rush fans usually impress me with their "thinking" attitudes.
>

YES!!  Thank you vey much.  You can't compare these two.

							-Bungy.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (No One At The Bridge)
Subject: People insutling Rush!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: alt.music.rush
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:27:09 GMT

I was reading the new net group alt.rock-n-roll.classical.  One of the first
letters said "The best band is Led Zepplin".  It then gave two reasons
why:  the have the best drummer and the lyircs are the best, and then
there as a little aside that in a nut shell called Rush's lyircs shit.

I have talked many people, and they all agree that Rush's lyrics are
so much better that Led Z.  I think so, and hell, I think that Neil is
a hell of a lot better that who ever drums for Led Z.  Pissed me off.

Just thought I should alert my fellow Rush fans about this possible
"flame" (Hint Hint) 

	angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
"I bring Love to give you solace in the darkness of the night" - Rush

Xref: sparky alt.music.rush:4549 alt.rock-n-roll.classic:45
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: LedZep intimidates Rush fans-Still!!
From: haley@husc11.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley)
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:33:41 GMT

Hmmm, another news group dedicated to taking up inode space with
message pointing out how great something is...

There is one test to the greatness of a band: Is the music good enough
that you want to have your very own copy of their last album?

Comparing Led Zep to Rush is Like Granny Smith Apples to Golden
Delicious.

Both can be good to someone, both suck to someone, both are regarded
indifferently by someone.

Who cares how they compare?

Does the music *move* you? Does it reach in and shake you?

I have listened to Rush and been so enraptured I almost wrecked my
car.
I have listen to Led Zep, and been so affected I couldn't move from
the spot I was standing on.

To be sure, if the members of Rush ever heard Led Zep, they were
undoubtedly "influenced" by them... But they obviously have seen
Sesame Street, as evidenced by their last couple of albums have been
"brought to you by the letter  ..."

Does that mean you should compare Rushes songs to the songs sung on
Sesame street?

They are both great bands to someone, at least me, and quite a few of
my friends... There are people who have a different opinion.

Fine, Great. But what is the point of telling the whole world
something it couldn't care less about?

If you must have a group about "classic" rock and roll, how about
using it to discuss groups that could conceivably fit in the category,
and what are the criteria, that is, what makes them "classic".

And then when you are done, you can abolish the damn group and save
some inode space for something useful, like "alt.I.hate.Madonna"

Aaaaaargggghhhhhhhh!

-- 
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=Silly. She is also remarkably well loved, by the author of this signature. =
=---------------------------haley@husc9.harvard.edu-------------------------=
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Re: Books of fear
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:58:49 GMT

ian@meringue.seas.upenn.edu (Ian M Glazer) writes:

>What are the three books of fear?  I know that THE ENEMY WITHIN is part 3 and
>WITCH HUNT is part 1, but what if Peart talking about? Someone please help.
>It's been bothering me for awhile.

  Actually WITCH HUNT is part 3 and THE ENEMY WITHIN is part 1.  Part 2 is
  THE WEAPON.  As for what is Peart talking a, I don't know.  I haven't
  really concentrated on the lyrics.


-- 
 = U   U     IIIII =================Les Claypool- I will rape your personality==
 = U   U       I    John Meseke              Pummel you with my own philosophy==
 = U   U  of   I                              Strip you of your self-integrity==
 = UUUUU     IIIII  jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu===To make you all a bit like me.==
From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush's (Worst?) song
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:31:48 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <BxuCC0.JB0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jj6707@meibm26.cen.uiuc.edu (John E Jablonski) writes:

>In article <cubsfan.721516130@camelot>, cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes:
>|> My choice for worst Rush songs (or, least awesome Rush songs :-)
>|> would be.......Tai Shan, High Water, Hand Over Fist, and
>|> COuntdown, with COuntdown being the worst of all. I wonder if
>|> Neil got hit on the head before he wrote the lyrics to that one!

>Countdown!?!?!?!?!?!?!

>That's one of their BEST songs you schmuck!!

>Sincerely
>  John 

	I like the "sincerely" part that you put at the end.

Jeffrey Moon
University of Rochester
New York
From: chub@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Charles Ray)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: If you could only buy 1 Rush CD(s)???
Date: 15 Nov 92 14:23:44 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

In <1992Nov10.162624.8321@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mhatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Hatz) writes:

>With the Xmas shopping season approaching, I was hoping for a recommendation
>for the best COLLECTION of Rush tunes.  Hence the header of if you were to buy
>only 1 CD or collection, which would it be?  Thanks!

Err, I'd say definately Chronicles.

(It worked for me!)    :)

-- 
 . .                                       "You say times are tough,      
  U     Charles Ray                         we've got the best of both    
 (-)    chub@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au          worlds here."     -- Midnight Oil
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:07:45 EST
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Dream Opening Acts
 <1992Nov19.012415.8396@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>

Dream Theater

Slainte mhath,

Mike
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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: ii67@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: Red Barcheta
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:04:04 GMT

In article <92318.120342MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu>, <MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> The lyrics are:
> 
> My father hs a country gaze that no one knew about...
> He said it used to be a farm until...
> 
> Until what, this is my question.....
> 
> Is it ...until they mowed the lawn?

"My uncle has a country place, that no-one knew about
He says it used to be a farm, before the Motor Law"

They were too busy hot-rodding to mow the lawn!  :)

Matthew McGarity  II67@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:18:23 EST
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Dream Opening Acts
Distribution: alt.music.rush
 <BxxsL1.AwG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1992Nov19.224230.18492@eng.ufl.edu>

In article <1992Nov19.224230.18492@eng.ufl.edu>, joev@creek.eel.ufl.edu (Joseph
Versaggi) says:
>
>A really good show, due to the similarity of the music, would be
>Marillion, a band that seems to raise some people's ire as much as
>Rush.
>I heard that for one tour Marillion actually DID open for Rush, and at
>least once was booed roundly. What the hell were those people thinking?
>

Yeah, it did happen, on the PoW/MC (Rush/Marillion, respectively) tour...
Further proof that Rush fans (can be/ are) elitist, egotistical, and unmovable
to new ideas  :)

>Beat your rugs
>
>Joe

Slainte mhath,

Mike
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From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: How do you post?
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:04:48 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov20.144326.1@cc.uvcc.edu> brownea@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
 
>> 	Earl is right. It is really a joke (not the song, but the title).
>> 
>> 	Also, it is supposedly, Part IV of a Trilogy, which obviously doesn't
>> exist since a trilogy can on have three parts (i.e. the Star Wars Trilogy).
>> 
>> 	Just my $0.02.
>> 
>> Jeffrey Moon
>>
>What is the technical term for when somebody gets bitched out for something
>they say - Flaming?  Torch on...
>	If you were to look up at the signature on this, you will see that the
>name given to the user who sent the message reads 'brownea'.  That's ME we're
>talking about here.  Please take special note of the 'e'.  That stands for
>Earl, which happens to be MY NAME.  You can joke about a nom-de-plum all you
>want, but a little time to consider would leave you with the impression that
>you haven't heard from me before.  As a matter of fact, this is only the second
>time I've been in here.  How do I rate (post)?  It's my heritage.  Get used to
>it, cause you're just damn well going to have to deal with it.  <and the torch
>sputters out as the wielder looks bewildered...>
>	To the rest of you (who may be as soft-hearted as I hope), an appology
>for losing my temper.
>	As for 3 parts to a trilogy, don't mention it to Douglas adams or Piers
>Anthony.  I'd hate to have all of those good Xanth books repealed.  My
>impression was that the joke was based on the number of units required for a
>trilogy...

>	You can still just call me Earl

Excuse me, Earl, but what crawled up your ass?! I was simply adding to the
discussion and not trying to be some flame who has to point out every little
technical part about the history of Rush from A to Z. If you think I was
bitching you out, then you must be a pretty sensative guy. What's the
matter? Is the choke-hold on your dick a little too tight? You certainly
lost your temper... over nothing.

I can't say that I have been on this net very long either, but I am a Rush
fan and I enjoy participating in these discussions. I had made a point,
somebody added a point about the Adams trilogy that is a joke, and I simply
defended myself by repeating my point. I have never read these books, so I
don't know why you are telling me to keep quiet about them.

Earl, of course it is a joke. It is simply a joke. It is not something to
get all worked over. So, Earl... GET A LIFE. When you want to argue about
something, make sure your argument has some sense to it.

And you can call me....

Jeffrey Moon
University of Rochester
New York
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush/Charities/Causes
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:18:38 GMT
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

In article 93t@acsu.buffalo.edu, v281nr6a@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mark D Uher) writes:
>In article <1egs5cINNhfb@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu>, fjs@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno) writes...
>> 
>>I am curious to know if anyone has an idea about which `charitable organizations' 
>>the members of Rush find credible and worthwhile.  
>> 
>>So far, the only things I can remember are Neil's involvment with percussionists,
>>Alex with his 'Omega Concern', and Geddy with the 'Northern Lights' album.  Also, 
>>I seem to remember that Rush donated the proceeds from a RTB concert in Los 
>>Angeles to help fight HIV and the spread of AIDS.  Other than that, I am clueless!
>> 
>>Can anybody help with a further comment???  Thanks!
>> 
>>Frank Sereno
>>Kansas State University
>
>
>In addition to what you have already mentioned... I heard that they did a canned
>food collection at the RTB concert in Toronto.  It was so successful, 9 tons?!?
>that they continued the effort during some of the shows in the U.S.  People 
>were given a chance at front row tix if the brought in x number of cans.
>                                           -Mark-


they did this when they came to Charlotte, NC, too, tho I don't know how much they
collected....  also gave away one pair of front-row-center with a backstage pass to
meet & greet the band (btw, I was 2 off from the # that won that one... sigh...)
From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: How do you post?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:28:38 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <Bxv9K4.D66@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Pearson) writes:

>jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon) writes:


>>	Earl is right. It is really a joke (not the song, but the title).

>>	Also, it is supposedly, Part IV of a Trilogy, which obviously doesn't
>>exist since a trilogy can on have three parts (i.e. the Star Wars Trilogy).

>>	Just my $0.02.

>Apparently, you've never read Douglas Adams who just recently added the fifth
>book to his increasingly inaccurately named trilogy to the Hitchhikers' Guide 
>to the Galaxy.

	Well, Dave, obviously I mean that it is just a joke. A true trilogy
can only have three parts; Douglas Adams obviously is poking fun when he
creates a fifth part of a trilogy. No hard feelings; just clearing up my
meaning from my post.

Jeffrey Moon
University of Rochester
New York