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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: asm@eecg.toronto.edu (Anees Munshi)
Subject: Mac MSWord 4.0 xlator for NeXT FM?
Keywords: MS Word 4.0, translators
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:40:39 GMT


Is there a translator for Frame on the NeXT that will read MS
Word 4.0 files? Do the generic Unix translators also translate
from FM to Word? How about FM to rtf?

Also, is there a way to put fmdictionary inside ~/Library? I
don't like having fmdictionary sitting there cluttering my home
directory.

Thanks in advance. Rgds,
		-Anees Munshi
		asm@eecg.toronto.edu
From: rosen@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (steven.b.rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Mailing Labels using Frame
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:40:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbfsb.1992Aug30.144047.22640
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <SCHULTZ.92Aug29204609@halley.est.3m.com> schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz) writes:
> ...
>My solution for FRAME is not completely automatic but it works.
>
>Given a mailing list which is generally one address per line, write a
>program or use emacs to parse the list into the usable 
>	name
>	address
>	city, state, zip
>
>with some care to account for 4 and 5 line addresses such as looking
>for a comma delimiter.
>
>...
>   John C. Schultz   +1 (612) 733-4047   schultz@halley.serc.3m.com
>   How to include the taste of Glendronach in a multi-media system?

John,

	You could also use FrameMaker tables - You can highlight some text,
	say:
		name,address,city state zip

	and choose TABLE - CONVERT TO TABLE, finally tell frame to seperate
	the table on the comma character. This would do the emacs work of
	seperating the lable text. You could even define a table format,
	name it and convert directly to that format.

	Just an idea,

	...steve...

----------------------------------------
Steve Rosen     rosen@cbnewsb.cb.att.com
                      srosen@attmail.com
                          attmail!srosen
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From: robin@netcom.com (Robin Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: For sale - FrameMaker for Windows
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:53:25 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: The Rosenberg Group, Sunnyvale, CA

I have a second copy of FrameMaker for Windows that I got for
beta-testing the product. I only have use for 1 copy, so I'd like to
sell the second copy (which contains 3.5" disks) for $308. 

Please email me if you're interested. Thanks much.


-- 
Robin Rosenberg
robin@netcom.com     (formerly robin@borland.com)
"Growing roses makes every day seem like Valentine's Day."
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kcr@deneb.mlb.semi.harris.com (Keighley Ross)
Subject: Re: Problems with function keys "becoming unbound"
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:09:49 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <1992Aug29.094135.1070@ugle.unit.no> tor@itk.unit.no (Tor Onshus) writes:
>I have the same problem on my Sun/IPC, running 3.1X
>under OpenWindows. I manage to program L6 and L9 etc using
>keeboard macros, but Its impossible to redifine L8=Paste and 
>L10=Cut as I did on previos versions. I think it worked
>using 3.1X and OW 2.0.

I'm not sure this is the same problem, but it may be that the
trouble is not with Frame, but with the Deskset tools (mailtool,
calentool, audiotool, ...).  Apparently, they redefine the L6/8/10
keys to be modifiers, so that applications such as Frame don't see
them being hit.  To test this, go to a shell tool and type:
xmodmap -pm
(print modifiers, or -pk, print keys).  If these keys show up in
the resulting list, they've been clobbered before Frame could get them.

My "solution" is to add the following line to the bottom of my
.openwin-init file:
(sleep 20; xmodmap -e 'clear Mod5') &
It says to wait 20 seconds, by which time all of the deskset tools
have done their initialization, then clear out the damaged map.
This probably means the deskset tools aren't working as well as they
should, but Frame is more important to me.  Also, if I later start up
a tool from a menu, it re-corrupts the keys.

I'm not particularly knowledgeable about X, and problems like the
one above are encouraging me to stick with Sunview as long as possible.
Perhaps your local X expert can provide a better solution.

-------------------------------------- Keighley Ross ----------------
HH _  HH    kcr@mlb.semi.harris.com    Design Systems Development
H_/ |_HH      Opinions expressed       Harris Semiconductor
HH    HH      are solely my own.       Melbourne, Florida,
From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: QUESTIONS/ hypertext & keyboard macros for user interface
Keywords: hypertext, macros, user interface, framemaker
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:55:52 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <5793@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> wsi@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
(Wolfgang Slany) writes regarding Frame hypertext:
>
>[] Is it possible to execute more than one hypertext command with just
>one mouse-click? For example, I would like to execute a program via
>the `message system program' command, then immediatly open the
>resulting file as a frame-window with `openlink file:firstpage'. I
>tried different schemata, none seemed to work.
>
>[] Is it possible to execute keyboard macros as hypertext commands?
>For example, a hypertext command should perform a certain text
>manipulation, say change the tabbing characteristics of the current
>file.

You do not want the ability to execute a keyboard MACRO because
macros are stored on a per-USER basis.  Using macros would make
your document dependent on what macros the reader happened to have
in ~/kbmacros.  Plus, FrameViewer/FrameReader probably don't
support macros at all.

However, you are close to a very important idea: it should be
possible for a hypertext link to execute a SEQUENCE OF KEYSTROKES
which the author prepares.  Since almost all Frame functions
can be expressed as keystrokes, this would give the hypertext
language great power!  However, since the author specifies the
keystrokes, it retains security and control to the author.

We at Informix have urged this feature on Frame representatives
more than once in recent months.  Unfortunately, they did not
seem to grasp the power or utility of this feature :-(

If you agree it would be helpful, please express that to
comments@frame.com.  Maybe if more users tell them, they'd 
get it.  The feature list for 4.0 is solidifying even now!

Dave Cortesi
  cortesi@informix.com (where we just changed all the IP
addresses so you probably can't reach us anyway...)
From: pagels@cs.arizona.edu (Michael A. Pagels)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: FrameMaker license server question
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:45:19 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

Well now we've had both answers......

Yes, you can use licenses across platforms on a network,
No, each license is tied to a platform type.

Well, we have 3 licenses that we currently use on Sun's. I
just got a new HP and would like, for the $100 media fee, to
get the HP binaries and use the Sun based license server.

People on the Frame technical line have given us both answers too;
is anyone really really sure?


Michael

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: brighid@bass.lkw.com (Brighid)
Subject: Re: how to delete paragraph formats when I can't display catalog
Organization: Lakewood Corporation
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 13:21:36 GMT


I ran up against this problem recently (see earlier posts) where I just
couldn't display the paragraph catalog.

This is what I did. (386 machine running SCO ODT 2.0.0, by the way)
1) Find $FMHOME/.fminit2.0/xresources/Maker.
2) In that file, find the section about the para. cat. ("pCat")
3) Copy it to your home directory.
4) Check and see if $XENVIRONMENT is defined.
 If it is, add the copied part to your .Xdefaults file. If not,
 add it to a file called .Xdefaults-hostname where hostname is the
 name of your machine.
5) Edit the copied portion, setting the x value to 0 or some other
   small number.
6) Restart Frame, and it may work.

Good luck!

Brighid

brighid@lkw.com
From: tripstr@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Todd Courtois)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: HELP- large doc won't open on Mac FM
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:31:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


john@publications.ccc.monash.edu.au (John Wilkins) writes:

>It's a 3.2Mb file I couldn't split. I need to be able to open it
>urgently, if only to save it as a MIF and edit that. The error is
>1110:1116, the details are: Mac IIci with 20Mb RAM, FM 3.1i allocated
>14,000k, system 7 with tuneup 1.1.1. Any ideas?

	If this is a file you're importing from another application
	(Word for example), split into chapters with that application
	first, then open the chapters separately.

	If this is a file you created with FM originally, all I can
	suggest is to turn off a bunch of extensions on your mac so
	as to give it more memory space to work with.  It is also 
	possible (if this is a file imported from Word or elsewhere)
	that what's happening is that when Frame is trying to import
	the document, it doesn't recognize one or more of the fonts,
	because you don't have them installed in your System.  My Mac
	has run out of memory before for that very reason.  Word 5.0
	has a bug in it that causes trouble with fonts.  

	Once you do actually open the document in Frame, be certain
	to *split* the document into chapters.  There is really no
	reason why you shouldn't be able to.  Once you reassemble the
	chapters in a book, the document will be as seamless as it
	was before, and yet much more manageable.  

	Also, if your document contains a bunch of imported graphics
	(that may be one reason why it's so large), try importing
	them *by reference* instead of directly.  That will save an
	enormous amount of memory.  You can also turn graphics display
	off under "View" to speed up text editing.

	Hope something up there helps :)
From: zoe@cypress.West.Sun.COM (Zoe Friedlander)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: how to delete paragraph formats when I can't display catalog
Date: 31 Aug 1992 21:16:23 GMT
Organization: Sunsoft, A Division of Sun Microsystems Corporation
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sparkle
Originator: zoe@sparkle.West.Sun.COM

For reasons that I don't understand (and apparently no one else around here 
does either) I can't display the Paragraph catalog. (Neither clicking on
the icon nor Esc-jw works.)  I apply formats using F9 and the first letters
of the format name.  Under these conditions, is there a way to delete formats
from the catalog?

Thank you in advance.
From: gilbert@esd.dl.nec.com (Russell Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: One text source for many docs
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:06:33 GMT
Organization: NEC America, Engineering & Support

From article <1992Sep2.195510.8047@rosevax.rosemount.com>, by bill@texan.rosemount.com (William Hawkins):
> Is there something in Frame that will allow multiple documents
> to contain the same text, the way #include or import by reference
> allow a graphic to be included, and track changes in the source?
> 
> The problem comes from a fax message distribution problem.  I have
> a committee with 15 members, none of whom are on the 'net :-(
> So I made up 15 Fax Lead Sheets, one for each member.  The sheet
> contains a Subject line and about 5 inches of text space.  I've
> got them in a book, so one print command prints them all.  I'd
> like to be able to fill in the subject line and text space from
> a single file, so that they all get the same message.  If there's
> more pages than the lead sheet, those are only printed once.  I
> don't want to cut and paste to 15 lead sheets for each new message.

You might try "Conditional Text" under "Special".  You can tag sections of
text so that they are only displayed when their tag is selected.  Then
you could have one version of the subject and text, and 15 different
tags that display 15 different names.  To print them, you select each 
tag (causing it to display someone's name) and print the whole page.
Takes longer to print all 15, but it does solve the problem of cutting
and pasting, and the problem of having 15 different documents.

Russell     (gilbert@esd.dl.nec.com)
From: ilse@janus.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Ilse Vinson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Does Frame APA (American Psychological Assoc) format exist?
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:02:06 GMT
Distribution: comp.text.frame

Does anyone know whether an APA format is available.  If so, please let me  
know.  Thanks, Ilse Vinson, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (SLAC)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: jelle@west.nl (Jelle van Zeijl)
Subject: Converting fonts and rearranging the keyboard map
Keywords: font, conversion, keyboard map
Organization: West Consulting bv, Delft, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:18:30 GMT

Greetings,

A customer of ours wants the same Greek font for FrameMaker on the Sun and
the PC. We can buy one for the PC at a fontshop here and we can convert
this font (using the utilities of FrameMaker) to a font which can be used
by FrameMaker on the Sun.

But now the tough part: the customer wants the keyboard map of these font
rearranged.

The PC font has e.g. the lowercase 'alpha' at 'position' 193, 'beta' at 194,
and so on.  He has to type ALT-193 to get an 'alpha'. He doesn't want that.
He just wants to select this font and type an 'a' to get an 'alpha', and type
an 'A' to get an uppercase 'alpha', and so on.

So both the screen font and the printer font file has to be rearranged. Easiest
is it to do it on the PC and then convert the rearranged font to the Sun (if
the Sun utilities still eat the font files).

Does anyone have any experience with such a thing? Are there easy tools to do
this (preferably public domain or standard in a MS Windows env.)? Any other
suggestions?

Reply by e-mail and I will summarise.

Thanks!

PS: No, the standard symbol font won't do. He needs the 4 variations of the
    Greek font: regular, regular italic, bold, and bold italic.

-- 
-- Jelle van Zeijl      jelle@west.nl
-- West Consulting bv,  Bagijnhof 80,     2611 AR  Delft, The Netherlands
--                      P.O. Box 3318,    2601 DH  Delft
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: chipc@genghis.borland.com (Chip Clofine)
Subject: side by side paragraphs
Summary: need good way to implement side by side paragraphs
Originator: chipc@genghis.borland.com
Keywords: side by paragraph style
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Distribution: us
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:42:06 GMT

Hi...

I'm in search of a good clean way to implement side by side paragraphs 
of various lengths without needing to define too many styles. Any 
good ideas???

chip
chipc@borland.com


Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: tor@itk.unit.no (Tor Onshus)
Subject: Re: Problems with function keys "becoming unbound"
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 09:41:35 GMT

I have the same problem on my Sun/IPC, running 3.1X
under OpenWindows. I manage to program L6 and L9 etc using
keeboard macros, but Its impossible to redifine L8=Paste and 
L10=Cut as I did on previos versions. I think it worked
using 3.1X and OW 2.0.
-- 
Regards
Professor Tor Onshus<
Division of Engineering Cybernetics 	: Phone +47 7 594376
The Norwegian Institute of Technology	: Fax   +47 7 594399
N-7034 Trondheim                        : Email tor@itk.unit.no
NORWAY
From: dalbec@clavin.Eng.Sun.COM (Gabe Dalbec)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: frame and olvwm
Date: 27 Aug 1992 23:27:15 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: clavin
Keywords: olvwm,virtual

Does anyone know how to make frame behave properly under olvwm?  That is,
so that it doesn't "stick" and follow you around to each virtual screen.

Please respond in e-mail.
Thanks,
Gabe Dalbec
dalbec@clavin.eng.sun.com

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: nicholas@odin.iti.gov.sg (Nicholas Tan)
Subject: Save failed:<filename>. Is your file system full?
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:33:31 GMT

A colleague has a 67 page document which is ~300K in size.  When he saves this file on a Sparc with ~3M in /tmp, it is fine.  When he does the same thing on a HP9000s400 (hpux8.0) with ~10M in /tmp, the error message in the subject line is popped up.  Does anyone have any clues?  Thanks.


- Nicholas Tan
From: tripstr@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Todd Courtois)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Import by Ref vs. Publish and Subscribe?
Date: 25 Aug 1992 20:34:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu




	I'm working on a rather large document which requires
	importing numerous diagrams from different software applications
	on an Apple system.  All of these diagrams are subject to
	change.

	One of the main drawing programs being used is MacDraw Pro,
	which allows our engineers to create a "slideshow" in one
	file by having multiple layers, where each layer is a slide.

	I'm trying to find a way to import each layer individually
	without having to save the base layers off, and then save
	each layer individually.  MacDraw uses "Publish and Subscribe",
	but I see no way to get FrameMaker to use this.

	Any suggestions?
From: alley@argon.berkeley.edu (Rod Alley)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: h-bar symbol
Date: 28 Aug 1992 04:46:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: argon.berkeley.edu
Summary: how do I get the Planck's constant symbol?
Keywords: Planck's constant

Does anyone know how to obtain the symbol for Planck's constant, h-bar
(h/2*pi)?  Writing h/2*pi looks awkward.  I'm unable to find the symbol,
and have so far been making do by overlining a ZapfChancery "h".  I 
want to use it in equations, and in the body of the text.  Can anyone 
help me with this? 

Thx,
Rod Alley
alley@argon.berkeley.edu
From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Comparing file versions
Keywords: wishful thinking
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:29:36 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Apparently this is not in the FAQ, but I'm sure it has been asked to this group  
before. However, it's come up again at our site recently, so here goes.

Is there any decent way to compare two versions of a Frame file? I know how to use  
change-bars; I know I can save as ASCII text from the two versions and UNIX compare  
them; I know I can (gag!) uuencode the 2 files and UNIX compare them. Same with mif  
(oh, you bolded that word? that's 40 lines changed, dude!).

But the key word is decent. Does anyone have a useful method for comparing 2 FM  
files? Saving as text and comparing seems the closest to something useful; does  
that work for anyone?

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: harald@itk.unit.no (Harald Backer)
Subject: Key shortcuts
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology / SINTEF, Trondheim, Norway
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:33:07

FYI: We had a problem getting all the Control-r (or Escape) shortcut
commands working in Frame 3.1X. The characters following Control-r
were inserted in the document and the expected shortcut command was
not performed.

The answer to the problem was: We had a X resource file from Frame 2X
located in /usr/lib/X/app-defaults/Maker with the entry:

	Maker.uiLanguage:	English

By changing this resource to the default from the 3.1X release

	Maker.uiLanguage:	UKEnglish

everyting works allright!!!!

BTW. "New Features in FrameMaker, X Window System, June 1991" says
that F2 will move point to the Current document window. This is not
true if you use the mouse to point on a window, as said in the on-line
Help.

My environment is: International FrameMaker 3.1X, Sun Sparc, OS 4.1.1,
X11R4 (MIT), tvtwm 10.0 patch level 6.

Regards, Harald Backer                  

SINTEF Automatic Control                : Phone +47 7 594375
The Norwegian Institute of Technology   : Fax   +47 7 594399
N-7034 Trondheim			: Email harald@itk.unit.no
NORWAY
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger)
Subject: labeling blank pages
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 20:23:06 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.


Didn't see this in the FAQ:  

Is there an easy way to automatically show "this page intentionally
left blank" on blank pages which are embedded in a document?

We've got a document with certain sections which must land on
a right-hand page, so we end up with blank pages in the middle
of the document.  Right now, we're just adding the message manually,
but of course that means rechecking constantly.
-- 
Judy Bettinger (judy@evolving.com)            < |/
Evolving Systems, Inc.                         :o<)
Denver, Colorado                              < |\
From: decouty@irisa.fr (Bertrand Decouty, AB112, [99 84] 73 46, Atelier)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Changing printers - for all documents
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:13:32 GMT
Reply-To: decouty@irisa.fr
Organization: IRISA-INRIA, Campus de Beaulieu, 35042 Rennes Cedex, FRANCE

In article 8832@sei.cmu.edu, ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch) writes:
>

[...]>
>1.  Frame uses it's own Printer designation.  In the X11 version, it is in
>    your .Xdefaults file (Maker.printerName: xxxx).  Check your documentation
>    for specifics (Customizing FrameMaker appendix in the reference manual.)
>
>2.  All templates must be stored with NO printer name.
>
>3.  After a document has been stored WITH a printer name, that printer name
>    will be part of it, and your "default" printer will be ignored.  (Unless
>    you clear the printername from the document again.)
>
>ask@sei.cmu.edu
>
>Alan S. Koch
>Software Engineering Institute
>Carnegie Mellon University
>Pittsburgh, PA  15213

What i have done is define a pseudo-printer name, let's say "ps",
which, when used by frame, is replaced by $PRINTER content in FMlpr
script.

So i can put "ps" printer name in templates or documents and
automatically they will print on favorite user printer!

I don't understand why frame does not use PRINTER variable at least for
"NEW" document.

This was the first lacking feature i saw when i installed frame.

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