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/ hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) /  7:51 pm  Aug 17, 1992 /
Monday August 17 1992 10:28, Robert B. Ciotti wrote to All:

 RBC>  Rec.motorcycles.harley passes 362 yes votes to 47 no votes.

Good. I voted yes, so thats twice I was on the winning side. Big deal.

Now, please, lets move all discussions about Harley Davidson motorcycles
and the illusions/delusions of (superior) life styles so often professed
by owners of same to rec.motorcycles.harley, where I don't have to read
them. Thank you!

John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
----------
Don't get too antsy now, John, as it'll be roughly two weeks or so
*before* rec.motorcycles.harley is carried by usenet. 

After that happens perhaps the owners of Shadows, Vulcans, Viragos
and Intruders could have discussions about their cruisers, lifestyles
and so forth... :-)

Graeme Harrison
DoD#0649
"If It Moves, Fondle It." -Berkeley button in 60s.
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dual compound tires???
Date: 23 Aug 92 16:05:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <l97gksINNgfd@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> ronih@zxninja.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>
>Can anyone recommend a good dual compound tire which will wear well in the center
>but still let me drag an occasional footpeg in the twisties? My friend's CBR1000
>came with Bridgerock something-or-others that were dual compound and held corners
>pretty well, but they didn't come in my rim size. Any recommendations?
>

	I don't know if they come in sizes for your ZX though, try Pirreli
	MT58 and MT59.  When I was wearing these on my GPz400F, they lasted for
	18000 km, or about 11100 miles.  My friend who had them on CB250RS-Z
	(on-road model with XL250's engine) had 40000 km, or about 24800 miles
	on it!!  Yes, they worked pretty well on the winding roads though not
	as goos as Yokohama Profire which lasts only 2500 miles.  :-(

	Just for a reference.

						Tetsuya Nishimura
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Manx Grand Prix
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:27:12 GMT

In article <16bfpuINNq92@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM>, rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier - Sun - Coventry.) writes:
|> 
|> UK Denizens....Here's an offer you can't refuse.
|> I've got a place left in a four seater aircraft flying to the Isle of Man on
|> Sunday 30th August and back Monday evening (31st August..bank holiday)
|> The idea is to get pissed on Bushey's Brew on Sunday and watch some racing on Monday.
|> 
|> Let me know asap if you're interested.

could you hold the place for me untill after tonights lottery drawing?
i'll be able to give you a firm yes or no depending on what #'s are
picked.




Laszlo Nemeth
pond_scum_sucker@cs.colorado.edu
Boycott AT&T
"Harleys make to much noise. I guess I've just become a BMW snob" Mikii
Not many men can say they made a woman orgasm and laugh at the same time.
DoD #0666          UID #1999
From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cager penile size (was Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:36:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.231007.17843@walter.bellcore.com>, jyri@faline..bellcore.com (Jyri Virkki) writes:
> 
> Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the group with the highest
> rate of trying to do this kind of thing are the minivan drivers? I mean,
> what is it with these people? They drive what is probably the most 
> pathetic excuse for a motor vehicle, and 11 out of 13 of them will do
> the utmost to try to outaccelerate me, in the bike, off lights. It's
> hilarious to see them smash that pedal down and to hear the engine scream
> trying to attain redline (3K or whatever it might be :-)
> 
> Must be some kind of mental disease; it makes you go out and buy a minivan,
> then race motorcycles with it...

You're right... it's just you.  What I've noticed when driving my minivan
is that every motorcycle I see is a neon crotch-rocket with a teenager
(or two) aboard, wearing only shorts, tanktop, and neon shades, and they're
usually wheelying past me, with the shriek from their Yoshimura or Muzzy
pipe at 14K RPM so loud that I can't even hear the screaming of all my
kids in the back seat!  

It may just be my disease-impaired mind, but it seems to me that sweeping
generalizations are very easy to make, but they're usually pretty stupid.

Now, if only Volvo made a minivan.
--

P.M. Smith
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: AMA Progressive Insurance Rip-Off
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:20:24 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Wednesday August 12 1992 23:41, Stefan Goellner wrote to All:

 |>> here's one better, I once got a quote for my ZX-11 at approx.
 |>> $1800/yr. I called back and got a quote on a ZZR-1100C at approx.
 |>> $400/yr. since they didn't have a listing for "ZZR-1100C" it fell
 |>> into the "other" category. it pays to know ALL the designations for
 |>> your bike :-) -- Joe Senner

 SG> Yeah, but don't they catch that on the VIN?

You MUST be kidding?

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: NE Route info requested
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:05:14 GMT
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Over Labor Day Weekend (arrrrgh) my girlfriend and I are riding from
Pittsburgh, PA to White Water Junction, VT.  What I know is:  Its's a)
600 miles by major highway and b) a grueling 12 hour, pedal-to-the metal
trip by car.

Judy is a new rider and I was thinking three days for the trip would be
a nice pace to introduce her to the pleasures.  Do Denizens or sundry
lurkers know of routes or bits thereof which are pleasant alternatives
to interstates and other red lines?  Also, any recommendations re:
campgrounds (choice A) or motels (distant 2nd) along the way.

Any/all info would be greatly appreciated.

Happy trails.

-peter

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From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:54:25 GMT
Organization: Caere Corp.

hull@tegra.COM (Andy Hull) writes:
>  With chain drive, when you roll on the throttle the rear end squats down
>which will unload weight from the front end.  With shaft drive rolling on the
>trottle will make the rear end stand up, which will transfer weight to the
>front end.
etc. etc.

Wait a minute, wait a minute.  If the motorcycle is accelerating,
weight is transferred rearward.  How could a drive shaft possibly
counteract that?  I've watch a lot of motorcycles in a lot of ERCs
accelerating through turns, and I've never seen one that didn't extend
the forks while accelerating.

Jerry, tell me I'm not crazy!  (I guess I'm crazy for poking my head
into this discussion.)

Mojo
(CMSP Site Coordinating Instructor, San Jose South)
-- 
Morris Jones
Caere Corp.
mojo@caere.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: duke@cupid.uucp (Duke Robillard)
Subject: Revenge (was Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:11:33 GMT

In article <BD.92Aug21081406@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker) writes:
>
>>i prefer the mafia's line: "revenge is a dish best serve cold."
>
>This ain't no mafia line - anyone got a Bartlett's handy?  It was either
>some old Greek, or a much more recent Brit.

Well, it's not in my "Shorter Bartlett's" but my copy is pretty old (only
pre-1936 stuff I think).  I'll look in the real one tonight.

I did find some other nice revenge quotes:

"Sweet is revenge--especially to women"       Lord Byron, who probably knew
                                              a few

"In revenge and in love woman is more         Nietzsche, a well-known expert
is more barbarous than man."                  on barbarism

And a motto for all of us biker-scum:

I am one, my liege,                           
Whom the vile blows and buffets of the world  Big Bill Shakespeare, Norton
Have so incensed that I am reckless what      fanatic and playwright.
I do to spite the world.                      "Macbeth"


Duke Robillard            DoD #130
duke@cc.bellcore.com      {backbone}!bcr!cupid!duke
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Re: Cheap Gas in BMW K-100 RS?
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:04:22 GMT

ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:

>ltp@uswest.com (Halfman-Halfmachine) writes:
>: At higher altitudes the air isn't thinner. There is the same amounts
>: of Oxygen, Nitrogen etc... but atmospheric pressure is a lot less. At

>Larry,
>   If the air isn't thinner at higher altitudes then why is there less
>pressure?  Hmm?  Perhaps you meant to say that the *proportions* of
>Oxygen, Nitrogen, etc. are the same.  But, I will assure you that there
>are fewer molecules per unit volume of air at 10,000 ft. than at sea-level.
>In other words, it sure as hell is thinner.
>--

  Which is the exact reason so many coaster's get altitude sickness when they
vacation in the CO rockies for ski season.  Also why most of the Olympic
athlete's train at high altitudes, they train at that level and get used to it.
Come down here and their blood get's flooded with O2 because whilst' up in
the clouds their lungs have expanded to compensate.

-Matth


          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  

--
          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)
From: wrs@wslack.UUCP (Bill Slack)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD Battle Hymn.... Final Days.... Get Your Votes In !
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:01:20 GMT
Organization: W. R. Slack

In article <1992Aug18.140811.3717@ctms.gwinnett.com> keith@ctms.gwinnett.com (Keith Warren) writes:
>****************************************************************************
>The following is how things stack up to date: be sure to get in your votes/
>nominations prior to 08/20/92 . on 8/20 I will send out only the top rated 
>songs for final vote!
>***************************************************************************

(list deleted)

Hey! You left out "Black Denim Trousers and Motorcycle Boots"!! Sheeesh!

I hereby nominate it.

Bill
__
wrs@gozer.mv.com (Bill Slack)  DoD #430
But her tears were shed in vain and her every word was lost
In the rumble of his engine and the smoke from his exhaust! Oo..o&o
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Waterproofs
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:44:33 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


A short while ago, someone asked a question on these, and I posted some
logorrhoea on criteria for functional ones.

I tried to retreive it for Loki Jorgenson's archive, but my machine had
already dropped it. He had the same problem. If anyone has kept it out 
of a sense of masochism, could they please mail it to either azw@uk.ac.aber, 
or to  Loki himself?

Thanks

Andy

(I cant think of anything inflammatory to say about colonials today - 
I'm tired)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: Does It Exist? (Jawa?)
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:18:17 GMT

In article <14AUG199213014547@mpx1.lampf.lanl.gov> wbetts@mpx1.lampf.lanl.gov (Betts, Wayne J.) writes:
>Can anybody tell me if there has ever been a motorcycle company or model called
>a Jawa or Java, or anything similar?  I think maybe it is (or was)
>Czechoslovakian.  Any details would be appreciated.

Yes.  Jawa was (is?) Czechoslovakain.  They use the same headlight shell as 
/5 BMWs.  Two-stroke twins of 250-350cc displacement.  They're a lot like 
the Yamahas of the late 1960's and early '70's.  But the neatest thing is 
the "How do you start it?" feature.  You push the shift lever IN toward the 
bike and that allows it to rotate up and around to be used as a kick start 
lever.  Like most eastern European equipment, they work.  But the fit and 
finish and general reliability is not very good when compared with equipment 
produced by the more modern industrialized West.
============================================================================
 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412
From: warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com (BJ Warkentin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: cars-v-bikes
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:17:29 GMT
	<1992Jul28.195135.6124@tcsi.com>
	<1992Aug11.141925.4201@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
Organization: MITEL, Kanata, Ontario, Canada
In-reply-to: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu's message of 11 Aug 92 14:19:25 GMT

John R. Daker writes:
   Dances With Bikers - never with cagers cluelessly utters:

   >like Daytona, and a tight one like Laguna Seca? How about 1/4 mile
   >times? Aren't cars down into the 4 second range?
   >-- 

   Sure.  My car will do the quarter in 4.2 seconds at 420 mph on unleaded
   regular.  Has a 60-0 stopping distance of 4 feet too.

Wellllll, the first one might be kinda tough. The second one is easy
and I have seen it demonstrated on several occasions. 

Demo requirements: - one cage
                   - one cager (preferably complete with car phone)
                   - your choice of either large solid object or 
                     BFT (big fucking truck)

Procedure: - accelerate cage up to desired speed
           - run into object of choice
           - record results
           - repeat as necessary

BJ...warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com    |   XJ650K and DoD#0255
Kanata, Ontario, Canada        |   I want a new toy...
I really didn't mean it quite that way, or did I :->
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:16:07 GMT


In a previous article, daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) says:

>In <1992Aug13.220924.2802530@locus.com> dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writes:
>
>>Who else has discovered that countersteering does not appear to work
>>correctly on shaft-drive motorcycles?
>
>It Sure works just fine on my shaft drive ST1100. Maybe your not doing it right?
                                                         ^^^^
I really hate it when people use the wrong form of a word to make they're
sentences.  Why not right it on stationary first to si if it looks write?
:-)
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------>DarkMan-------->
Case Western Reserve University,  Cleveland, Ohio            DoD #650
Anyone know where a mechanical engineer can get a job?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Blue Jeans Bad; Leather Jeans Good
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:25:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.201406.23482@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>|>  
>>|> Thats what the doc said. So I immediately discounted it.
>>|> Now that I've heard it from a fellow DoD'r I will accept it as biblical.
>>|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>Now I've got this bridge I think you might be interested in.......
>>
>Nah, this one's mine--all mine.
>
>Say son, I have this great used car I'd like to talk to you about....
>                                                                      :-)
>

 Great, just let me take it around the block and then I'll pay ya.
Later.
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: vanator@jmb2.jmb.com (Jim Vanator)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Bike stalls
Date: 17 Aug 1992 16:51:44 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Ok....here's the story.  The Seca Turbo ran low on gas, so I switched it over
to the reserve to make it to the next gas station.  (4 blocks away)  The bike
ran fine for 1 block, then started missing and was running on only 2 cylinders
when I pulled into the station.   I fill it up, the bike runs fine.  3 days
later, it starts like a bitch, then when idling at a stoplight, it dies. 
Won't start.  I pushed it home and have been pulling my hair out ever since. 
It seems that if it sits for awhile, it'll run fine for 'bout 10 minutes, then
act like it's gas starved and stall.  Then it will start, but only with the
throttle wide-opened and as soon as I close the throttle, it stalls again.  If
I crank it with the choke even slightly closed, fuel seems to wash back into
the surge tank, because gas will drip out the surge tank drain.  (For those of
you who don't know, the Seca Turbo is equipped with a surge tank between the
turbocharger and the carbs to keep incoming air pressure constant)

Any ideas where to start looking?  I've made sure that the tank was clean and
all filters are also clean.   I appreciate any assistance.

Jim Vanator						Things are a lot more
JMB Realty Corporation					Like they are right now
DoD #644						Than they've ever been
'83 Seca Turbo						before.   (Unknown)
From: gt9398b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christopher R. Boggs)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Insurance Problem/Question
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:04:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


    I am 21 (22 on Dec 11). I ride an 88 Katana 600. I've only 2 tickets in
the past 3 years. Both for 55 in a 35. 
    Problem:  The company I had insurance with just stopped carrying motorcycle
insurance here in Georgia. It was only a bit over $700 for full coverage for an
entire year. They have offered to transfer my insurance to another company that
wants over $1100 for the same identical policy. This is above my means as I am
in school. I HAVE to have insurance. But unless a cheaper alternative can be
found, I'll have to drop it to liability. *shiver* I had wanted to keep full
coverage on it at all times.
    Question:  Does anyone know of a reputable national insurance company I can
contact to try and get a decent rate on my insurance? I know there has to be a 
few out there.

    Please email me replies. Unless you think this topic is worthy of posting.

-Chris

-- 
[]==========================================================================[]
 | Christopher R. Boggs, MGT Major, Georgia Institute of Technology, Senior |
 |    "Death is life's way of telling you that you've been fired." -Anon    |
[]==========================================================================[]
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:47:04 GMT

In <BD.92Aug15114736@fluent.UUCP> bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:


>hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) askes:

>>Last night while happily riding down the road, this cager comes up
>>behind me.  Not just behind me, but practically up my arse.  Me not
>>liking this, I decide to turn my head and give him an eeeeeevil stare at
>>the red light.

>>What would YOU do ?

>Stall the bike and make him back up and go around you.

I'm kind of paranoid about assholes like that ruining my bike's pretty
little behind. So I'd just turn the bike around, zip past his side, turn 
my highbeam on, and sit behind him for a while. Follow him home, burn
down his house.

>-- 
>   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
>                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
>             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me

Shckwish!
From: timmi@asylum.sf.ca.us (Timothy G. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Insurance
Keywords: insurance
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:07:59 GMT
Reply-To: timmi@babyoil.ftp.com
Distribution: na
NNTP-Software: PC/TCP NNTP

>"My momma told me: '. . . better shop around.'" -- Toni Tennille (or was
>it Carley Simon?)  Anyways, that's good advice to follow when you look
>for motorcycle insurance.  There are large differences in rates from 
>company to company.  AMA offers insurance; there are insurance companies
>that advertise in motorcycling magazines; some local agents here advertise 
>motorcycle insurance.  I wound up insuring Gretchen and Harvey through 
>Dairyland, but when I looked into insuring something to help my 
>Ducatilust, Dairyland had one of the higher quotes, and already being a
>customer didn't make any difference.  

While this may be the case in other places, it is not, for all
intents and purposes, true for states like MA.  Because of this "no
fault" insurance thing we have here, most automobile and motorcycle
insurance rates are mandated by the state.  As a general rule, the
only reason to choose one insurance company over another is the level of
service they give.  I pay $450 for full comprehensive (including fire and
theft) on my '82 CB650.  When the time comes to renew my insurance, if I
still have the bike, I'm going to cancel comprehensive and expect to pay
about $200 for the minimum required insurance.
--
Timothy G. Reynolds					FTP Software
FTP Technical Support					26 Princess St.
timmi@ftp.com						Wakefield, MA
(617) 246-2920							01880

	"We're well into the later half of the twentieth century,
	 paranoid misogyny is just plain out of style."

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: New DoD listing memebership is at 860
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:53:57 GMT

There is a new DoD listing. To get a copy use one of these commands:

		finger motohead@cs.colorado.edu
				OR
		mail motohead@cs.colorado.edu

If you send mail make sure your "From" line is correct (ie "man vacation").
I will not try at all to fix mail problems (unless they are mine ;-). And I
may just publicly tell the world what a bad mailer you have. I do scan the 
mail to find bounces but I will not waste my time answering your questions 
or requests.

For those of you that want to update your entry or get a # contact the KotL.
Only the KotL can make changes. SO STOP BOTHERING ME WITH INANE MAIL

I will not tell what "DoD" is! Ask rec.motorcycles. I do not give out the #'s.


Laszlo Nemeth
laszlo@cs.colorado.edu
"hey - my tool works (yeah, you can quote me on that)." From elef@Sun.COM
"Flashbacks = free drugs."
DoD #0666          UID #1999
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles