HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cq377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David C. Williss)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Matching two lists
Date: 1 Jan 1993 01:49:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cq377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David C. Williss)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



As quoted from <C051yz.Eu4@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> by krisk@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Kris Klindworth):

+---------------
> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:
> 
> 
> >I have a whole long list of email addresses, and I want to get
> >the double entries out of it.
> 
> >What's the easiest way of doing this? The list is just a straight
> >text file... like:
> 
> >joe_scmoe@joeville.com
> >charleyb@peanut.gallery
> 
> sort file|uniq >newfile
>

God I love Unix!  I wish I had known that about a month ago.  Our
office person came to me with a mailing list of about 6000 people
who we needed to mail (ie: U.S. Snail) stuff to.  I was able to
sort them by Zip Code (although I had to sort out Canadian postal
codes by hand), bud didn't know about uniq.

Just try to do _that_ under MS-DOS!
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: rjyanco@unix.amherst.edu (Richard J. Yanco)
Subject: Mailing to multiple people without each person seeing a list of all
Keywords: elm, mail
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:17:48 GMT

I send a daily mailing out to approximately 10 people from my account.
If I have the names in a file foo.bar, is there any way to send a message
to each person in the list, *independently*, with a single command?

One option is obviously to

  mv foo.bar .forward

and mail myself.  But this is no good; mail might come in, and get bounced
where I don't want it.

Another option suggested to me was

  elm -s "Subj" `cat foo.bar` <message

but every individual recipient gets a list of all recipients, which
is not what I want.  I'd like the equivalent of

  elm -s "Subj" harry@some.place.edu <message
  elm -s "Subj" bob@another.place.edu <message
     ...
  elm -s "Subj" jane@final.place.edu <message

rather than

  elm -s "Subj" harry@s.p.e bob@a.p.e ... jane@f.p.e <message



Is there any easy way to do this?

(Email preferred.)

Thanks-
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross)
Subject: Re: How to find IP name knowing IP adress?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:09:18 GMT

News testing account (Test_News@uci.agh.edu.pl) wrote:

:  For example : I have adress 149.156.96.9
:  How to find name of machine ?

Don't know if this is the official answer, but it worked:

% /usr/etc/nslookup -n 149.156.96.9
Default Server:  galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl
Address:  149.156.96.9

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell)
Subject: ksh, vi, and strange messages
Bcc:  mitchell
Reply-To: mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell)
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:02:29 GMT

When in vi, and I say "!}fmt" (and similar), I get messages embedded
in my text saying "stty: TCGETS: Operation not supported on socket".
My understanding is that these are due to my shell trying to output
a prompt string and that the solution, if I were using csh, would
be as described in section 2.7 of the FAQ.

My question:  I use ksh.  Anybody know the solution?

email responses appreciated.  thanks.

-- 
mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell)

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: merlyn@ora.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: word cracker
Organization: Stonehenge Consulting Services; Portland, Oregon, USA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:05:50 GMT

>>>>> In article <1992Dec30.235126.25601@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, sscrivan@nyx.cs.du.edu (steve scrivano) writes:

steve> OK, gurus!  Can anyone solve this problem?

steve> I am looking for a fairly portable "C" program or script that will produce
steve> every possible 4 letter or greater combination using the following
steve> letters:

steve> c e e f g h i i l l n n o p p r r r s s t t t u

#!/usr/bin/perl
open(W,"/usr/dict/words") || die "Get a Unix box, lunkhead!";
while (<W>) {
	chop;
	next unless length >= 4; # skip short words
	$orig = $_; # for display
	tr/A-Z/a-z/;
	next if /[^cefghilnoprstu]/;
	# word contains only interesting characters
	$_ = pack("c*",sort unpack("c*",$_)); # sort to alpha order
	# ensure few enough characters of each type
	study; # may or may not help... try both
	next if /cc/;
	next if /eee/;
	next if /ff/;
	next if /gg/;
	next if /hh/;
	next if /iii/;
	next if /lll/;
	next if /nnn/;
	next if /oo/;
	next if /ppp/;
	next if /rrrr/;
	next if /sss/;
	next if /tttt/;
	next if /uu/;
	# good!
	print "$orig\n";
}

Just another Perl hacker,
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phrase: "Welcome to Portland, Oregon ... home of the California Raisins!"
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Bug (?) in csh
Date: 31 Dec 1992 04:06:31 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.think.com

In article <1htk6fINN9hn@news.umbc.edu> engel@umbc8.umbc.edu (Mr. Joshua F. Engel) writes:
>That is incorrect; there should be no output because the program
>should not enter the inside of the first if statement.  Between
>this and other experiments, I conclude that csh matches ifs
>not with the corresponding endif but rather with the first
>endif.

You've stumbled onto one of csh's many bugs, although it's not the bug you
think it is.  Add a space between the "if" and the "(" and you'll get the
output you expect.  Csh's lexer is extremely broken.  When you're forced to
write csh scripts, it usually pays to be extremely liberal with whitespace.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: rr044917@sju.edu (Reno Robert)
Subject: Modem to hard drive?
Organization: St. Joseph's University - Philadelphia, PA
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 06:42:56 GMT

I just received a 2400 bps modem for Christmas. I am accessing a network from
St. Joseph's University.  I have .gif files I would like load to my
hard drive from my account/file on the network.  I have tried sx and xmodem,
but they don't work.  I am using the terminal accessory in windows 3.1 to 
receive files.  Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong or tell me what to
do!

						Thanks!
						Bob Reno
						Pi Kappa Phi

P.S. Please feel free to mail me at rr044917@sju.edu



Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: root@n1gva (The Nefarious Dr. Sponge)
Subject: Re: What is a SLIP connection?
Organization: Evil Weather Machines LTD
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 12:27:27 GMT

smrttadm@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jeffrey Smartt) writes:
: G'day,
: 
: can someone please tell me what a SLIP connection is!
:
No worries :)
 
SLIP stands for Serial Line Internet Protocol. It is a method for using an RS232
interface instead of Eithernet card. Two computers can be networked together via
their serial ports using SLIP, thus allowing telnet and FTP sessions between the
two. In the case of Dail-up SLIP, two (or more) computers are networked together
using their serial ports and modems, thus allowing 'long haul' network connect-
ions to be established.

Because of the baud rate limitations imposed by serial lines (usually around 
115K baud max), SLIP links are relatively slow compared to Eithernet (usually
around 10M bits per second).

: Thanks,
: Jeff.

Sure,
Fred
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: How do I find other machine names at a domain site?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 06:55:53 GMT

I have a domain site, etown.edu, and know of one machine name on that
domain, vax.etown.edu.  What I'm wondering is, is there a way to find
other machine names at etown that I can finger to look for a user?

Thanks,
Mike
--
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Tau Epsilon Phi - George Washington University		 can be a bitch."
mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu					  -Quantum Leap
Michael.Rosen@bbs.oit.unc.edu or @lambada.oit.unc.edu
From: acs_brath@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Need Expect, Gcc, Pine, 
Date: 28 Dec 92 08:50:57 -0600
X-From: acs_brath@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
X-Newsgroups: biz.sco.general
Followup-To: comp.unix.questions,biz.sco.general

X-Date: 28 Dec 92 07:45:34 -0600
X-Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

If anyonye has gotten expect to compile on ODT 1.1 w/Development System.
I have an older version of Gcc and I am trying to uucp the newer one
from anomaly, but it keeps timing out?  Does anyone know where to get expect
and/or gcc and/or pine for SCO.  Or if anyone has sugestions on how to get 
the general one to work.. Thanks.


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Xref: sparky comp.unix.questions:15031 comp.unix.misc:4762
From: hamby@cs.utk.edu (Jeffrey Mark Hamby)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.i386
Subject: 32-bit C/C++ & Fortran compilers question
Date: 29 Dec 1992 21:58:02 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu
Summary: seeking advice/comments on 32-bit C/C++ & Fortran
Keywords: 32-bit, C/C++, Fortran, compiler, Coherent Unix
Originator: hamby@duncan.cs.utk.edu



I'm new to this newsgroup, so please excuse me if I'm asking in the wrong
place.  I'm looking for C/C++ & Fortran 32-bit compilers for a 486-based
pc.  I'm currently leaning towards OS/2 but am also very interested in a
pc Unix.  I'd like minimal (read that zero) problems with object file and
run-time compatibility, so I'm thinking same vendor for both compilers.
The purpose of the compilers is to do some number-crunching (bet you
guessed that).

From what I could find in ads for Lahey, Zortech, Borland, MS, Watcom, &
Microway, only Microway's NDP (Numeric Data Processing) compilers meet
all my specs for OS/2.  Also from what I could find, Microway makes
the only affordable (for my not deep pockets) such compilers for a pc
unix, which is the Coherent unix.  I think Coherent is a 32-bit standalone
Unix, but I'm not sure.  So...

If anyone would care to offer advice, suggestions, experiences, or other
comments on Microway's NDP C/C++ & Fortran 32-bit compilers for the i486
(or for the i386, if you've experience with that), I'd really appreciate
it.  I'd also be interested in any thoughts on Coherent unix (if it's not
32-bit, I'm probably not interested-- sorry I'm not clear if it's 32 or
16).  Or if you know of some alternative I've missed, I'd appreciate 
hearing about that, too.

Please post your replies to the group if you'd like others to benefit
from your comments as well, but if you do, please also send me email, as
I don't always get to read news on a timely basis.

Thanks a whole bunch for all your help,

mark
hamby@cs.utk.edu




Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis)
Subject: How to make tn3270 properly handle SIGSUSP/SIGCONT?
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:06:42 GMT
Reply-To: Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
Organization: University of Louisville

My tn3270 (HPUX 8.07) dies with "Caught signal 26, exitting" when I suspend
and continue it.  This is, obviously, at odds with decent job control.
Is there a convenient way to fix this, or am I going to have to find the source
and hack three lines of code?  I've read tn3270's fine manual page, to no
avail.

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From: ss@panix.com (Steve Steinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How many people are on the net?
Date: 30 Dec 92 03:51:12 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <C0179q.DtJ@news.iastate.edu> jerrett@iastate.edu (Gregory A Jerrett) writes:

>I have been curious about this for some time.  Is there a rough estimate
>out there anywhere of the approximate number of peopele/people who are 
>hooked up to the internet?

A recent NY Times article said 3+ Megapeoples.

>jerrett@iastate.edu

>-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: jns@ace.nas.nasa.gov (John N. Stewart)
Subject: Re: How to find IP name knowing IP adress?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:16:49 GMT

In article <erl.725122174@powell> erl@powell.cs.jt.dk (Erik Bruijn Larsen) writes:
>Test_News@uci.agh.edu.pl (News testing account) writes:
>
>
>> For example : I have adress 149.156.96.9
>> How to find name of machine ?
>
>Try typing:
>% hostname
>
>If you are running NIS and want the name of another host, then type:
>% ypcat hosts


No no no nonononononon. :) YP doesn't always have all
the hosts, it depends on the implementation at each site. Many folks
have modified the resolver libraries to ignore the hosts map
completely, especially on Sun's -- it was a hack, but many of us have
used it.

Hostname? That won't help either really, it only returns the hostname
of the current host, or tries to set it for that host.


Try: 	nslookup 128.230.1.55 or the script which is attached.


'das all folx!

-Ace


John Stewart (Ace)
CSS/DSS/Security/Postmaster/NewsAdmin
NASA Ames Research Center
(415) 604-4345




#!/usr/nas/bin/perl
# ipq -	Answer one of the two common IP queries
#
# Tim Cook, December 1992

$prog = substr ($0, rindex ($0, '/') + 1);


if ($#ARGV != 0) {
   die "usage: $prog ( hostname | IP-address )\n"; }


if ($ARGV[0] =~ /^[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+$/) {
   &address_to_name ($ARGV[0]); }
else {
   &name_to_address ($ARGV[0]); }

exit (0);



sub name_to_address {
   local ($name) = shift (@_);

   local (@octets);

   local ($nam, $aliases, $addrtype, $length, $address) =
      gethostbyname ($name); 

   if (! length ($address)) {
      die "$prog: no address found for $name\n"; }

   @octets = unpack ("CCCC", $address);

   print (join ('.', @octets[0..3]), "\n");
   }

   
sub address_to_name {
   local ($address) = shift (@_);

   local (@octets);
   local ($name, $aliases, $type, $len, $addr);
   local ($ip_number);

   @octets = split ('\.', $address) ;

   if ($#octets != 3) {
      die "$prog: IP-address must have four octets\n"; }

   $ip_number = pack ("CCCC", @octets[0..3]);

   ($name, $aliases, $type, $len, $addr) = gethostbyaddr ($ip_number, 2) ;

   if ($name) {
      print ($name, "\n") ; }
   else {
      die "$prog: no host-name found for $address\n"; }
   }
From: jxv3790@hertz.njit.edu (Jake Vogelaar)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: scandir() for SCO Unix Sys V 3.2
Keywords: porting problems
Date: 24 Dec 92 03:26:27 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec23.010015.10070@highlite.uucp> mike@highlite.uucp (Mike Wiik) writes:
>Apologies if I should know this. I'm looking for a System V
>version of the handy BSD scandir() function to complete a
>part-time porting job. If all else fails I'll write it myself,
>but why try to recreate another's brilliant solution? :)
>
>
I'm trying to do the same thing, so if somebody has this function can you
e-mail it to me too please?

jake
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: root@candle.uucp (Bruce Momjian)
Subject: Breaking into Unix via modem
Organization: a consultant's basement
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:52:57 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Someone just told me that there is a way to break into a Unix box by
dialing the modem, but not getting a login prompt, and somehow getting
to Unix.

The guy who told me this was somewhat confused, so I don't take much
stock in it, yet I am asking the Net in case he has heard of a security
issue that I have not.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: jns@ace.nas.nasa.gov (John N. Stewart)
Subject: Re: How to find IP name knowing IP adress?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:12:03 GMT

In article <erl.725122174@powell> erl@powell.cs.jt.dk (Erik Bruijn Larsen) writes:
>Test_News@uci.agh.edu.pl (News testing account) writes:
>
>
>> For example : I have adress 149.156.96.9
>> How to find name of machine ?
>
>Try typing:
>% hostname
>
>If you are running NIS and want the name of another host, then type:
>% ypcat hosts


No no no nonononononon. :) YP doesn't always have all
the hosts, it depends on the implementation at each site. Many folks
have modified the resolver libraries to ignore the hosts map
completely, especially on Sun's -- it was a hack, but many of us have
used it.

Hostname? That won't help either really, it only returns the hostname
of the current host, or tries to set it for that host.

'das all folx!

--Ace
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: lstein@Ingres.COM (Larry Stein, Ingres Consulting - Dallas)
Subject: Source code control packages
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Distribution: na
Date: 24 Dec 92 03:18:15 GMT

A friend is looking for UNIX-based source code control packages (other than
sccs and rcs). Product and company names would be appreciated.

I seem to remember a recent ad in UNIX Review(?). The pitchman was supposed
to be the guy who wrote sccs. Anybody know what that was?

Plz email to lstein@ingres.com.

Thanks,

Larry
From: rjq@phys.ksu.edu (Rob Quinn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Question about .forward
Date: 22 Dec 1992 19:34:29 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu

In <1992Dec21.232605.10593@netcom.com> dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross) writes:
> If I have a .forward file directing a cc of mail to another system, can
> I safely rm mbox without fear of losing mail that comes right at that
> moment?  Or does the .forward work only *after* mail is deposited in the
> spool, which could result in such a loss?

 Yes, you can. A simple way to check would be to look at the access times on
the mailbox once you have installed your .forward.
 But why would you want to remove your mailbox? Why not just leave it there,
with zero length? On most systems the mail directory is world writable, so
someone else could create a mailbox for you with world readable/writable
perms. If you ever rm your .forward, you will start using this ``fake''
mailbox.

 Disclaimer: This is what I see with sendmail on our Suns.

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|  drink it without tipping the can." -anon          QuinnBob@KSUVM.BITNET |
From: Russell.Coker@f362.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Russell Coker)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Determining the state of a process on another host
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:08:06

 we> I'm currently writing a client-server application that uses BSD
 we> sockets to communicate. At certain stages in the processing I
 we> want to be able to determine whether the client process is
 we> running/alive. If the client is running on the same machine I
 we> can just do a kill(..,0), but if the client is running on another
 we> machine - what do I do then ?? I have the hostname, the remote pid,
 we> the username and the remote tty-name available on the server. Is
 we> there any way of doing a remote kill(...,0) ??

   Couldn't you do an "RSH remote-host -l login-name 'kill(...,0)'"?

   cya

 * Origin: MBUG BBS - Melbourne 'Bee Users Group. 7395238 (Quick 3:633/362)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: jaf@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Tony Fitzgerald)
Subject: Re: How to find IP name knowing IP adress?
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:23:41 GMT

In article <Test_News.15.725105040@uci.agh.edu.pl> Test_News@uci.agh.edu.pl (News testing account) writes:
>
> For example : I have adress 149.156.96.9
> How to find name of machine ?

Try:

perl -e 'print $n=(gethostbyaddr(pack('C4',(149,156,96,9)),1)),"\n"'

Which yielded: galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl on my system.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: btaplin@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (bradley richard taplin)
Subject: Anyone used SparcClassic and/or the Solaris 2.1 included with it?
Summary: Curious about the new Sparc, Solaris 2.1,if hard drive is enough.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:36:18 GMT

	Hello. I recently read the "real low-end" article in a late-fall
	issue of SunExpert and am curious about the new SparcClassic. Is
	16 mb RAM, a 207 mb hard drive, and Solaris 2.1 a good standalone
	package? Would it be possible to develop using GNU C or Sun's C?
	C++ as well? Scheme? Could this become a "home server" providing
	terminal access from a Macintosh and/or DOS box in other rooms?

	An alternative in my mind is a fast 486. Dell can preload their
	UNIX S5R4 for a very reasonable sum, bringing the total cost
	hardware plus operating system to under what the SparcClassic
	now goes for, and Dell's newer systems are Pentium-upgradeable.

	Moving down the cost levels, I understand Tenon's MachTen is a
	full implementation of Mach UNIX for about $600 and up that I
	could run on the Mac LCII 4/80 we currently have at home. We
	might require a little more memory and/or storage. Opinions?

	Finally, has anyone used Coherent 4.x? I intend to learn UNIX
	but finances are very tight right now, so I figure a 386 with
	Coherent (total system+OS under $1000) might be a good start.
	I mean to become a competent UNIX sysadmin, in practice and I
	hope by profession, so might a 386 be inadequate for my needs?

	Thanks for your time. Please e-mail to btaplin@ucs.indiana.edu.
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