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From: egamboa@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Emmanuel Gamboa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Arion (was Re: Shows that shouldn't be subtitled/Dubbed)
Date: 13 Sep 92 02:43:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu (Mitch) writes:
 
|  I was watching Arion subbed last weekend, and as I suffered 
|  through the horribly hackneyed and soapish dialog, it occured to
|  me, gee, this show would be *so* much more fun if I didn't know 
|  what these idiots were saying to each other (although it 
|  occasionally reached the point of sublime sillyness: re the 
|  battle oratory scene where Arion inspires the mortal army  by 
|  yelling, in effect, I have an unnatural attachment to my 
|  sister! Lets go kill some Titans! and THE ARMY CHEERS! 
|  Somebody said they thought that the mortals maybe didn't speak 
|  the same language as he did.)

Unfortunately, Sue Shambaugh's translation of Arion (on which many fan
subs are based on) is horribly poor, very literal in many places.
In no way does it do justice to a great film like Arion.  I have a
copy of a subbed Arion, and that pre-attack pep talk you mentioned
was probably the worst bit of translation I have ever seen.  There
no attempt to capture the flavor of the original text in the
translation.  It's like translating Gato's line in 0083 episode 9
(Solomon-yo, watashi wa kaete kita!) as "Yo Solomon, I'm back dude."

Arion received mixed reviews when it first came out in Japan, but
it was never criticized for having bad dialog.  Until Sue came
along. :)  Even I have to admit, tho, that American fandom benefited
greatly from Sue's efforts, but Arion is a case where her work
caused more confusion than understanding.  I recommend watching
Arion using Animag's synop as a guide (issue 2).

Noel Gamboa (egamboa@sdcc13.ucsd.edu)
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From: ciaran@county.lmt.mn.org (Ciaran Benson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Priss Mitaki (?)
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:46:51 GMT
Reply-To: ciaran@county.lmt.mn.org (Ciaran Benson)
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies, Minneapolis, MN


  Ok, so I posted a question last week about the various intimacies
presented (or, apparently presented) in Bubble Gum Crisis, and
I assume that the post got out, but maybe it didn't because
when I got back all I found was this raging flame-war about
big hooters in Anime.

  So, I'm going to try it again and maybe focus in on just
one single question.

  In "MoonLight Rambler", Sylvie calls Priss-san, "Priss Mitaki"
or something VERY similar -- the closest I could get with my
KataKana dictionary was "Misaki", which could be 'high
promontory or precipice', which sounds romantic enough, but
doesn't seem quite right.  The word /sounds/ like it's being
used as a significator, but I might just be too emotionally
jerked around every time I get to that scene.

  Can anyone shed some light on this?  Was there a more obvious
relationship between Sylvie and Priss in the original version
that got hacked for the sub-titled version (to protect 'Merican
sensibilities), or am I just writing my own sub-plots where the
flag woun't fly (if I may mix a metaphore).

  BTW -- I find BGC to be probably the most entertainment
I've seen on my tube in years.  High points all around for
just pure energy and emotion.

  And extremely high points to Animego for their work.  I'm
really impressed to see that they re-ordered their LD release
in response to public input.  Sounds like a nice place to work.

  So, we now return you to our irregularly scheduled argument
about cartoon breasts ... Ciaran.

  $uslinit; include oblig.sig <<
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   cups, and fill them gracefully with sudden joy."  -- Sappho >>
From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:24:29 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


I read a newspaper article about the Batman series.  I believe it was
a Bob Kane piece in USA Today this week.  It also stated that Robin
will be on September 28th.
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Animego BGC covers
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:45:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.065924.2553@csus.edu> kilpatri@nextnet.csus.edu (Joseph Kilpatrick) writes:
>Is there some reason that AnimEgo doesn't use the same covers for the BGC
>tapes that are or the Japense versions?  I mean looking at the collection of
>covers in the B-Club special book and I realized that the cover of the HL2032
>tape I bought is the same as the original version, but not on any of the others
>(I think..) Now the cover art wok for BGC is really cool, so why doesn't
>AnimEgo use it?  Just curious...

Huh?  Are you sure about this?  Based on my Kenichi Sonoda art book, it looks
like they did use all of the original video covers.  Let me see:
Parts 1, 3, and 5 used the original video jackets.
Parts 2 and 4 came from posters (the original jacket appeared on the back of
AnimEigo's Part 2, actually).
Parts 6, 7, and 8's video jackets weren't used.  The pictures that were
used don't appear in the art book (although I believe the book came out
before 8, so...).

That's certainly odd.  I wonder what's up?

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From: rau@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Drau)
Subject: .Z files on the Mac
Keywords: fnord 
Organization: Fredonian Computer Network 
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:27:01 GMT

	Quick question for Mac FTP types - what program do I need to decode
.Z files (scripts and so forth), and is it available at one of the usual
sites (sumex-aim,umich,etc.) ?  Tanks (GM: The Ogre _stomps_ on Bonaparte...)
a lot!

- Drau : rau@ucsu.colorado.edu

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From: pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Streamline sighting!  (SFBC)
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:10:56 GMT
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division

In article <715521203snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:

 > In article <1992Aug30.031554.13269@cbnewsl.cb.att.com > conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com writes:
 >   > 
 >   > I saw this question.  Didn't answer it, expecting that someone else would.
 >   > 
 >   > Heck, I'm back to posting answers to questions.  Posting rankings be damned.
 > 
 > <snigger > I think I'm gonna lose my second place now... Having gotten a
 > job, I barely have time to skim through articles, never mind replying.


Hey!  I had just made first place too!  Oh well.  

Steve
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:39:25 EDT
From: <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Best opening animations
 <1992Sep7.225805.5810@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <Bu8K3L.Ix8@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
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Me, I like the opening credit animation in Angel's Egg.

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From: clin@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chihtsung Jeffrey Lin)
Subject: Anime at the WHEREHOUSE
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 08:49:32 GMT

Hello,

Don't know if this is old news or not, but I went to the Wherehouse today
and they had some anime title in the foreign film section. I rented
Appleseed. There were 2 copies of them! I also saw Akira and some other
ones. BTW, this is in San Francisco.

Jeff :)
From: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: kurenai no buta
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:48:49 GMT
Organization: Purdue Animation Club ESWAT headquater, Purdue University


	From a Japanese professor of mine, a new Anime by Hayao Miyazaki has 
	just entered the cinema of Japan, in the name of 'Kurenai no Buta'.
	(translated to something like 'the crimson pig'???!?)

	I wasn't that attentive here the past few weeks and I might have
	missed the discussion on this.

	Does anyone has anything on it?
	Thanks.

	 - B.W.


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From: jhayes@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (John Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gatchaman God Phoenix Kit!?
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:07:46 MST
Organization: The Nucleus 16 Lines 403-531-9353 -CNet Amiga-

In article <sk7FqB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
(Benoy Koshy) writes:
>My friend is looking for the Gatchaman God Phoenix model kit.  Are these 
>kits still available or still in production?  Perhaps they did a 
>rerelease of the model when the box set came out?  Or so I would wish...
> 
>Anyone with such info, release it now or else... :)
>
>Ben Koshy/Lone Wolf              lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
>President of B.A.K.A.            Banzai Anime Klub of Alberta
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Last time I checked my collector kit lists, that one was next to impossible to
find(loooooong out of production)If I find one, I will send info.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead)
Subject: Re: What's the deal with BGC?
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:40:48 GMT

awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh) writes:

>FINALLY saw some subbed Anime over the summer, namely BGCrisis and
>BGCrash. I thought both were great, though a leetle bit confusing.

>I'm sure it's been discussed before, but hey, I gotta ask. Are we
>supposed to think that Sylia is a SuperBoomer like Largo? Does that
>mean her brother is too? Does anyone know for sure? 

Sylia is human, but her Daddy gave her a few advantages.  She sort of
has an AI "thinking aid."  It's less clear what the situation with
Mackie is.

>And of course, are there any more episodes planned?

Toshimichi Suzuki let the cat out of the bag at Worldcon - a new
BG series in in the planning stage: current title "Bubblegum SMASH"
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Subject: Re: Anime, and He May Not {Re-post}
From: ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg)
Date: 6 Sep 92 21:10:47 PDT
Organization: San Francisco State University

 This is a repost .. most of it got munged in my editor..
asuimasen...


[ Comments deleted to save space]
>The whole point  of what I, Emru and the author of Anime and He May not
>are trying to say is HAVE SOME TASTE!!!! I mean don't accept everything at
>face value.  When you do that, you are a fan-boy.  Plain and simple. An
>fan-boys don't do anything productive except nit pick.   Anime can be
>good, but the fandom has to learn how to grow up and become a untied
>community, not a bunch of diaper wettting cry babies.
Good luck in defining what is "good taste" .. before we know it we'll
be in Dan Quayle type stuff about Family values ... 
The point is that both taste and creativity are subjective...
It is extrememely difficult to arrive at a consensus of what it is.
I agree that there exist anime that are terrible. My solution, 
I DONT WATCH it. You've gotta be willing to to take the good
with the bad in alot of things.  I agree it can be made better;
the question is how ..??
>why the Japanese (in and outside of the U.S.) laugh openly at the Anime fandom
>it is because 90 percent of the fandom is just plain pathetic.  I mean at
>least Trekkies (or Trekkers, take your pick KNOW WHAT THEY WANT AND HAVE A
>COMMUNITY.
 Being a fan, in long standing, I'll give provisional agreement with
IMHO, Trekker's  ( regardless what you might here out of a dealer at
a Creation Con, will not buy anything just because its associated with
Star Trek. We speak with our wallets/purses. We buy what we like and
ignore the junk.. guess what, it goes away.. :-))
GHuess what, it's worked !!.. The amount of junk has greatly
decreased .Though it does still exist, of course. It's an
ongoing battle.
Just some IMHO opinions ..
cheers



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From: moakler@romulus.rutgers.edu (bam!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Silent Moebius
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:44:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>Boy, this one hit the spot. Beautiful film, completely absorbed Blade Runner
>and art style. Minor animation glitches, not big enough to harm enjoyment.
>Tastefully handled emotional scenes. A bit heavy on the bugeyed beasties, and
>the monsters seem at times to be more nasty than threatening- baddies hold
>upper hand too long without doing significant damage. Would like to see again
>with script or synopsis- do such exist? Is late. Perhaps should go to bed
>before lose pronouns entirely.


	Silent Mobius sure was a pleasure to watch, especially on the
big screen, and was what BGC could have/should have been, but I had
some problems with it.  Namely, there was so much emphasis on Katsumi
that the rest of the team was ignored (Lebia? Who's that?) I know it
was her origin story, but come on...Also, for something released to
the theaters, it was awfully short, so short in fact that I had to
watch the dreadful Aslan Wars, which was the other half of the double
feature.  Finally, someone should tell the scenario writers that it is
generally not a good idea to insert a long extended flashback in the
middle of a fight scene since it tends to break up the narrative
flow... Oh, I liked the music, too, and most of the songs, and anyone
who knows me knows that it takes a lot for an anime soundtrack to
impress me (read my sig).

PS- Rutgers Anime is showing  a subtitled copy of Silent Mobius this
semester. Don't ask me where it came from though, I just work here.

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From: gryphon@wpi.WPI.EDU (M-5)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: OIC (15)
Date: 13 Sep 1992 05:06:22 GMT
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In article <RandomAlphanumerics@RandomSite> rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
>For those of us too lazy to remember/download UF2/without enough disk
>space/insert favorite excuse here will either Ben or Zoner be kind
>enough to remind us how Zoner got into a coma in the first place?

*ahem*  Zoner bashed his head into a control console during a Major Ship
Trauma (tm), causing a hairline fracture of the skull behind his forehead
and a rather large cerbral hematoma...

>And a big NEG!! to the Macross/ROBOTECH "Bursting Point" rehash.
>C'mon, it wasn't even a parody!
>

It wasn't supposed to be a parody.  It was intended to be obvious.  As I 
recall, some character (very probably myself) made the comment, after the
battle, that life imitates art.  The term is not "rehash" either--that 
would apply if I had been attempting to pass it off as my own work.  It was
_supposed_ to point huge fluorescent arrows at "Bursting Point"...

For the thousandth time, the UF series is not parody, and was never 
(ok, maybe a little, way back last October in the beginning) intended 
to be.  It's a compilation of a lot of things, the way we, the authors,
see events unfolding...ahhh, I don't know how to explain it.  Go ahead and
agitate...

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From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: NG Knight Lamune & 40 (anyone have any episodes?)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:10:45 GMT

----------------------------------------------

      Does anyone have any episodes of NG Knight Lamune & 40?  I've seen the
series review OAVs, and I want to see more.  ANy help is appreciated.  

:)
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From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: Looking for Minki Momo (new and old series) and Creamy Mami
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:14:07 GMT

rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken) writes:
# 
# ALso looking for Creamy Mami episodes..
# and also FreeKick, if someone knows about it..

Ashitahe Free Kick TV series episodes are available on LD and VHS.

The Creamy Mami perfect collection LD set is also available.
There is also a Creamy Mami OVA collection LD set.
The individual OVA's are available on VHS, but I have never
seen the Creamy Mami TV series on tape.

Since Creamy Mami was re-run in the Tokyo area last year, somebody
in Japan might have them taped from TV.
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From: steyn@cs.rochester.edu (Gavin Steyn)
Subject: Re: Why so bad?
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:07:59 GMT

Voice acting is not as easy as it might seem.  Even professional actors can
have a hard time with it (has anyone seen _Light Years_?  Almost all of the
voice parts were done by big-name actors, and some of them were pretty
dismal.)
  Also, anime fans can get so picky, that it may not be worth the time and
effort to satisfy them.  (For example, I've heard numerous complaints about
the dubbing on _Laputa_, which wasn't done badly at all.  (It may not have been
super-duper-fantastic, but it was more than serviceable)  Why should an dubber
go to the trouble of finding decent voices if he's not going to get any credit
for it anyway?)
  Finally, using union actors just makes more sense if you don't want to 
spend 10 months listening to the audition tapes that every fan is going
to send you.  Even if you only spend 5 seconds listening to a tape
before rejecting, say, 90% of them, you've wasted a lot of time.,


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From: rau@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Drau)
Subject: Re: What's the deal with BGC?
Organization: Fredonian computer Network 
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:53:59 GMT

In article <-1369338269snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.064048.27643@foretune.co.jp> trebor@foretune.co.jp writes:
> > Toshimichi Suzuki let the cat out of the bag at Worldcon - a new
> > BG series in in the planning stage: current title "Bubblegum SMASH"
>Please please PLEASE tell me it will be done by To-Emi. If it's another
>Polydor, we might as well chuck it on the same heap as Crash and GF:
>New Century right now.

From Robert Woodhead : (I asked him this a few days ago)

 "Artmic producing, probably Polydor releasing.  Oomori-san is doubtful
due to the same old contractual problems."

- Drau

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From: megazone@parker.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: OIC (15)
Date: 14 Sep 1992 19:22:37 GMT
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans
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In article <1992Sep14.173037.16461@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> coram@ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin C Coram) writes:
>Thinking about Vaughn, is he going to show back up or what?  And what about
>Iczer One?  (Gotta love people who can just walk out an airlock without
>a space suit and not care :-)

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! Waint and see.... (Isn't FTP getting tempting.) :-)

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From: raa@guild.socal.com (Raa Lopez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Silent Moebius ...
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:22:49 PST
Organization: TheGuild[FTS]

I have two questions.

1: Are there Any Silent Moebius on LD?
2: HOW many are there?!?!?!!? (if any?)

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