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From: sl3nf@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: 3d chess rules
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:58:53 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	I've heard that the 3-d chess rules are posted on some ftp site or
another.  Does anyone have that, and if so, could you please mail it to me?

         "Time well spent is a waste indeed."
                 sniggerfardimungus
                in%"sl3nf@cc.usu.edu"
         The usual disclaimers apply anywhere 
              you can find a sticky spot.

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From: alpha@hubcap.clemson.edu (Shekhar G. Borde')
Subject: Re: "The Royale" Question
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:59:47 GMT


>>A whole number, to me at least, is any integer greater than zero
>>(not including zero).  

Here's how it goes according to me --


Integers :     -INF, ....., -1, 0, +1, ........, +INF

Whole Nos:     0, +1, +2, ..........., +INF

Naturals:      +1, +2, .........., +INF


-Shekhar




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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: Conference Room
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:33:21 GMT

Brian_Whittaker@3mail.3com.com writes:


> 2 Quick Questions.

>1. On the Enterprize-D Exactly what Deck/Section is the Conference room?  

>2. Is there a Tech Manual for the Ent.-D?


1. conference room is located on Deck 2, a ramp from the Bridge leads down to
  that level, and then another door on the opposite end leads to deck 2.

2.  Yes, by Michael Okuda and Rick Sternbach of TNG.

--
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From: sl3nf@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: The most FA FAQ!
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:40:23 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	If anyone has a list of Trek ftp sites, I am in need of some trek info
and need to start digging.  If you have a site list, or even the location of
one or two good sites, could you PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE mail them to me?

		Garcia's!   |)

         "Time well spent is a waste indeed."
                 sniggerfardimungus
                in%"sl3nf@cc.usu.edu"
         The usual disclaimers apply anywhere 
              you can find a sticky spot.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 15 Nov 1992 20:01:54 CST
From: <U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Dual role for Frakes in "A Fistfull of Data"?

Not sure about *Spoiler* timing etiquette, so I'll play it safe---






















When Worf and Alexander first walk into the bar, there are three men
playing cards at a table near the wall.

Does anyone know if the player with the full dark beard was J. Frakes?
It sure looked like him to me.

Terry
U16028@uicvm.uic.edu
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From: sgro@psl.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: Is there a problem here. . .?
Reply-To: sgro@psl.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Physical Science Lab
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 02:40:35 GMT


WELL WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT ONE , HERE IS MY RESPONSE, 
THAT I *DID* SEND BY E-MAIL IN SPITE OF HIM ASKING OTHERWISE!

mail  ire9934@cuphub.cup.edu
Subject: SPORT
Hi
Your feelings about S Trek are exactly the same I have for SPORTS...
I am sick and tires of being bombarded by ****BALL of whatever sort!!!
Football, basketball, tennis-ball, handball, volleyball, golf-ball
TV is INVADED on week -  end by ***ball fans, and the streets  overflow of
people going to the ***ball games.... Thousands of people go to
a ***ball stadium, spend miilions of $, or spend HOURS in front of the]
TV to watch a ***ball match, being ANXIOUS of who is going to win.

Now 'LET THE PEOPLE GO' wherever they WANT weather it is a ***ball game
or a TREK convention, I see little difference.

And this is NOT because I am French, 


Voila`.

In article <1992Nov14.133157.106@cuphub.cup.edu>, ire9934@cuphub.cup.edu writes:
>I'm curious.  Tell me, how can a TV show from 20+ years ago have a real meaning
>in your lives?  I mean, am I missing something?  Does it really matter what
>Kirk's best line in episode #34 was?  And who cares what the rank of the
>teleporter operator is (in the new series)?  Give me a break!!!  If this is all
>that you people worry about, please send me the lotus you've been eating (or
>haven't you had time to read Greek epics between episodes).  
>
>Get out of the fantasy world before it's too late!  It's great to have a hobby,
>but only if the hobby doesn't have you!  Do you get it people!!!!
>
>Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of the Star Trek series, but there are things
>that are more important to me.  Maybe you should get a pet, or some friends to
>take your mind off of useless TV garbage.  And by the way, do any of you find
>"Who's the Boss" entertaining?  Do you laugh at Bob Saget's jokes on "America's 
>Funniest Home Videos"?  If you can answer "yes" to either of these questions,
>please evaluate yourself.
>
>Sorry if I seem judgmental or rude, but its just something that needs to be
>said.  If you decide to complain, it's your right, but do us commoners a favor
>and bitch among yourselves.
>
>Just one more thing:  please don't threaten me with phaser blasts, or Vulcan
>nerve pinches, etc.  And remember, if you breathe out while you're in a vacuum,
>inertia may cause you to explode, while on the other hand, if you inhale, watch
>out because you may implode (episode #457036-0367305);  Also, these thoughts
>are my own, and do not express the views of this campus (even though the
>majority may think this way!)
>
>Ireland
>
>p.s.  Please don't send mail to me.  Use the system for replies (if you have a
>reply worth writing).  If you plan to argue, make it good, and please don't
>bore me with things such as, ". . .Star Trek has paved the way for modern
>society, technology, food service, etc. . ." because, deep inside, you know
>that's a pile of s**t.
From: jcharpak@acs.bu.edu (Joseph Charpak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Thanks for the flameries...
Date: 22 Nov 92 16:05:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: jcharpak@acs.bu.edu

Sorry to burst your bubble but I have another moldy jelly doughnut :) source to back up the klingon fusion theory at least partially.  In _Faces_of_Fire_ a Pocket Book novel the author (I don't remember the name off hand) said that Commander Kruge 
(of ST III fame) was part of a growing faction of Klingon disidents that were threatening to take over the government through the usual ways of back door politics and assasinations.  Perhaps these are the Klingons seen in ST TMP,III,V,VI and in TNG while the human looking Klingons were the original leaders or fusions of both.  BTW what gives right for Pocket Books to be accepted as somewhat reliable is because they have written so much on the subject for a good number of years and they DO adapt as future e








pisodes come out of TNG and the movies.
'nuff said.
jcharpak@acs.bu.edu
From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: BDF Trek Fonts
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:17:27 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad


I know this has been asked a thousand times, but does anybody have the
Star Trek fonts in BDF format?

Adobe Type 1 would also be useful to me.

Please, no SNF formats are useful, unless they are SunOS compatible.
That's the last option, really, because I'd have to go through all the
convertfont rigamarole to get them into DESQview/X.  If you have them
already in BDF, that would be ideal, since it is a straightforward
matter to get them to DESQview/X SNF format.  I haven't had much luck
converting SunOS SNF fonts to BDF then to DV/X SNF, though.  But if
that's all you have, I suppose I could make the effort to get them
converted, but the tools are very, very beta right now.

Thanks in advance, and sorry to clog the group with yet-another-font-request.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor <> Long Beach, California
[] mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us <or> mikebat@qdeck.com
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From: npb41275@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Noah Ban)
Subject: Re: ST:DS9 start dates
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:55:22 GMT

Does anyone in the Urbana-Champaign area know when DS9 will be on, and on
what channel?  (acronym, not number please)

Thanks.

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From: rsr4936@cc.utah.edu (Reay, Robert S.)
Subject: Re: Question for a friend....
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 21 Nov 1992 09:45 MST  

In article <9211192144.AA29861@enet-gw.pa.dec.com>, d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  19-Nov-1992 1644) writes...
{bobd@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bob D'Amore) asks
{ 
{> Who was at Tanagra with Gelard?
{ 
{It was "Darmok and Jilad at Tanagra".  Yup, Darmok, as in the title of the 
{episode.

Or was it J'LARD as in JLpicARD?
We already know Darmok spelled backwards is KOMRADE.

God, I hate being a trekkie.
		Rob


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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: canon source for Klingon home world
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:12:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.092918.4062@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>In article <92322.212238U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U16028@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>> Uncounted postings have dealt with the name of the Klingon home world.
>> Well, here is "uncounted + 1". :)
>> 
>> I was watching "Devil's Due" this evening.  During the final scenes,
>> Picard is reproducing the tricks of Ardra.  He causes some tremors.
>> Then he causes Ardra to disappear and challenges her to reappear.
>> Finally, he assumes the form of a hideous beast, Feklar(sp?), a Klingon
>> demon, that she had appeared as early on in the show.  While he is in that form,
>> Picard clearly says "Impudence is pretending to be Feklar of Klingon."
>> This appears to be a canon source for the name of the Klingon planet.
>
>Except for the fact that in TOS, a Klingon said, "We have no devil."
>Which causes me to question which one is "canon".  But we had a thread
>on this a while back...

Did not TOS also refer to the Klingon home planet as "Kling"?

(I guess referring to the evil Kling from planet Klongo would've been
 a little too plagiaristic, even for Roddenburger.)
-- 
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       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: TOS & TNG/Movie Klingons
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:31:27 GMT

In <1992Nov20.045759.15280@netcom.com> jwells@netcom.com (Jason Paul Wells) writes:
>"Robert Oliver, tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com" mentioned something
>about a great difference between the Klingons seen in the Original
>series versus those seen in the Movies or Next Generation.

>The reason for this is that the Klingon seen in the old series
>were not true Klingons; rather, they were 'fusions'--a cross breed
>between a true Imperial Klingon and another race, usually human,
>romulan, or orion. The Empire did this for many reasons, but one
>major factor was that they did not want outsiders to know what a
>true Klingon looked like.

Can you cite the episode from which this data was gleaned?  Or is this
entirely non-canon?  If so, I'd point out that at least one non-canon source
(the recent DC graphic novel Star Trek: Debt Of Honor) disagrees with you,
claiming that the Classic Trek Klingons were simply a different branch of the
same species, who were dominant at the time of Classic Trek, but were
superceded by the time of the movies by the "new" Klingons.

A more interesting question is in the dichotomy of *culture* between the two
series.  In Classic Trek, the Klingons were a cutthroat, untrustworthy race,
without a speck of real "honor" visible in them.  Not so in TNG.

(A similar switch occurred in the Romulans between the two series; the Classic
Romulans were fairly honor-bound, while the TNG Romulans resemble a
calculating version of the Classic Klingons.)

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

The Trekkie who doesn't own a VCR.
From: frisinv@alleg.edu
Subject: Re: canon source for Klingon home world
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:34:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.092918.4062@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet  
writes:
> In article <92322.212238U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>  
writes:
> > Uncounted postings have dealt with the name of the Klingon home world.
> > Well, here is "uncounted + 1". :)
> > 
> > I was watching "Devil's Due" this evening.  During the final scenes,
> > Picard is reproducing the tricks of Ardra.  He causes some tremors.
> > Then he causes Ardra to disappear and challenges her to reappear.
> > Finally, he assumes the form of a hideous beast, Feklar(sp?), a  
Klingon
> > demon, that she had appeared as early on in the show.  While he is in  
that form,
> > Picard clearly says "Impudence is pretending to be Feklar of Klingon."
> > This appears to be a canon source for the name of the Klingon planet.
> 
> Except for the fact that in TOS, a Klingon said, "We have no devil."
> Which causes me to question which one is "canon".  But we had a thread
> on this a while back...
> 
> -Drizzt

It could be that having a devil implies fear and one does not admit fear  
to an enemy and the Klingons of TOS are noit pals with Kirk and crew. Worf  
is a member of the Federation and therefore not their enemy, so he may  
feel free to admit that Klingons have a devil.

Vincent Frisina
--
From: Brian_Whittaker@3mail.3com.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Conference Room
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:13:00 GMT


 2 Quick Questions.

1. On the Enterprize-D Exactly what Deck/Section is the Conference room?  

2. Is there a Tech Manual for the Ent.-D?
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Printing the new PS guide. Help.
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:33:00
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: ss@realsoon.WPI.EDU's message of 19 Nov 1992 13:54:43 GMT


ss> I got the new version of the guide (NCSB 600) and tried printing it. I
ss> first printed the Crillee.ps file like the README.600 says, but when I
ss> try to print the guide, I get nothing, but the header page. I am
ss> printing it on a DEC print server lps20, since it supports double
ss> sided printing. 

I figured it out, so i'm going to answer my own question in case
other's have the same problem. My printer resets after every job, so
the Crillee font wasn't staying in the printer. This was my problem.
So I edited the Crillee.ps file into all the printable files. At the
top of each document is a line %%DocumentNeededResources: font Crillee
or + font Crillee depending on the file. Remove this line. Now search
for the line %%IncludeResource: font Crillee and remove it. Then add
the entire Crillee.ps file at the point were you removed the line
above.  Now take out the following lines making sure not to leave any
blank lines.

%!PS-AdobeFont-1.0: Crillee 001.001
%%CreationDate: 1/28/91 5:19:27 PM 
%%VMusage: 1024 41441
% Generated by Fontographer 3.2
% Created in PostScript by Cowan Design Associates.
serverdict begin 0 exitserver

Now go to the end of the Crillee.ps section and take out any blank
lines. After all this it printed great. Sounds like a lot, but it only
took me about 10 minutes with emacs.

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From: pcassidy@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au
Subject: Wesley ??
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 04:01:50 GMT

Hi persons , 
could some kind person out there explain to me the where-abouts of Wesley.
As most of the ST.TNG has not screened down here in Tasmania,
and all the sesasons are screaned all messed up.
but a friend told me that wesley was dropped in season 5 is this true..
Any info on him (Wil) will be greatly appreciated...

Paul.

pcassidy@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au
From: rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Deep Space 9
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:14:30 GMT
Return-Path: <amail.amdahl.com!rich.bellacera@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>

F.Y.I.

There's a pretty interesting article in the latest issue of STARLOG (Jan #186)
on DS9.  I haven't finished the article yet, but here's a few items of note.

1.  The show will be concurrent with TNG.
2.  Takes place on a remote alien space station on the edge of a sector
designated Deep Space Nine.
3.  Is located near a stable wormhole that acts as a shortcut to other parts
of the galaxy.
4.  The station is a strategic stopover point for space travelers.
5.  The 2hr TV premeire will show that Starfleet's takeover of DS9 is a result
of a longstanding conflict between the Bajora and Cardassians.
6.  The occupation of DS9 was part of the negotiations that lead to Bajoran
membership in the Federation.
7.  The show will be toned down from TNG in that it will show a darker, more
cynical side of space (without all the luxuries aforded the crew of the
Enterprise).
8.  There will be alot of interpersonal conflicts (especially a prejudice from
the humans agains the mystical/spiritual Bajorans).
9.  Cast (as of now) consists of:
  * Starfleet Commander Benjamin Sisko (Avery Brooks) a no-nonsense leader
whose wife was killed during a bloody conflict with the Borg.
  * Major Kira Nerys (Nana Visitor) a former Bajoran terrorist now First
Officer.
  * Chief Operations Officer Miles O'Brien (Colm Meany) promoted from his
duties aboard the Enterprise.
  * Science Officer Jadzia Dax (Terry Farrell) a member of the Trill race who
share a symbiotic relationship with an intelligent parasitical race (rembmere
Beverly's lover from "The Host"?).
  * Security Officer Odo (Rene Auberjonois) a shapeshifting being who does not
know his heritage.
  * Lieutenant J.G. Dr. Julian Bashir (Siddig El Fadil) fresh out of medschool
and a specialist in multispecies medicine.
  * Bartender Quark (Armin Shimmerman), a Ferengi.
  * Jake Sisko (Cirroc Lofton) the Commander's son.

According to other sources some of the "other" regulars and semi-regular
characters will be Quark's son who is Jake's best friend, Keiko O'Brien and
daughter Molly (also from TNG) and supposedly later during the series(?)
Ensign Ro will be promoted to Lieutenant and transferred to DS9.

Anyone have more info?

THanx
-Rich
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From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Spock does a NYSE radio commercial
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:28:12 GMT

San Francisco radio station KKSF (103.7) is running two ads for the
New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), in which the narrator explains how
powerful the computers they use are, and just how much business is
done there, and so forth.  The narrator _really_ sounds like Leonard
Nimoy, but there's no reference made or implied to Star Trek at all.
Has anyone else heard these ads?  I wonder why they'd go to the
trouble of getting him to do their ads, then not capitalize on his
fame -- but then again, I listened carefully to the ads for any Spock
references. ;-)

-- 
_/_/_/  Brian Kendig                             Je ne suis fait comme aucun
/_/_/  bskendig@netcom.com                de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
_/_/                            n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
  /  Nolite te bastardes     Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
 /  carborundorum.                                               -- Rousseau
From: v070p6nd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: TOS/TNG Klingons
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:46:00 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Beefalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov21.170927.29878@netcom.com>, jwells@netcom.com (Jason Paul Wells) writes...
[Stuff about the difference in how Klingons look from TOS to TNG]
> 
>>      .. the TOS Klingons actually *did* look like the TNG Klingons -- 
>>they just didn't have the budget to do it in the 60's. This is, of 
>>course, the ultimate explanation that we must all accept -- make-up 
>>limitations on a 1960's television series.
> 
>Just curious, but does this also mean that the NCC1701 looked like the
>NCC1701D, but they just didn't have the budget to represent it better?? =)

No.  The NCC1701 was a Constitution Class vessel and the NCC1701-D is a 
Galaxy Class vessel.  They are different designs.  It would be like saying
that Harry(?) Mudd <From TOS> was a Ferengi.
From: ss@realsoon.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Printing the new PS guide. Help.
Date: 19 Nov 1992 13:54:43 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: realsoon.wpi.edu


I got the new version of the guide (NCSB 600) and tried printing it. I
first printed the Crillee.ps file like the README.600 says, but when I
try to print the guide, I get nothing, but the header page. I am
printing it on a DEC print server lps20, since it supports double
sided printing. Any clues? Thanks....
-- 
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From: emm@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Wendigo)
Subject: What would be the ULTIMATE crossover??!!
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:19:31 GMT

I was thinking the other day after reading the LeapTreks (good job, BTW)
that the ultimate crossover would have to be ST-TNG and Alien.
Just think, the first time (that I know of at least) that StarTrek would meet
an intelligent alien it can't reason with!!  All the aliens see humans as
is part of their reproductive cycle.

Imagine, aliens slowely infesting the ship... starting say in engineering
and working their way thought while hopless security teams run up with their
hands in their pockets going "What's up Worf?? What's up?".

Excellent fun.

I hope Riker and Wesley would be the first to go.  I think the look on their
faces as a nastly little alien explodes out of their stomachs would be
real cute...

What is your opinion on this crossover and what do you think the
ultimate crossover would be?

-- 
Wendigo                                    | Every day in every way I'm getting
          [ Occasionally thought of as     | better and better, at least that's
            emm@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au ] | what the little green men from
   { Sometimes answers to Evan McLean }    | mars keep telling me!
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