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From: njl@drutx.ATT.COM (LaRocheNJ)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Acidophiolus, Hay, and Papaya Tablets (was Re: bunnie is now a HE!)
Summary: Sorry, my statement wasn't a complete one.
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:48:34 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Dec29.033406.20530@ee.ubc.ca>, jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
> In article <23010@drutx.ATT.COM> njl@drutx.ATT.COM (LaRocheNJ) writes:
> >
> >Acidophilus is needed ONLY when a bunny gets diahrrea or stops eating.  It
> >replaces the gram positive bacteria that are lost when these conditions
> >occur.  If the bun has neither of these, acidophilus shouldn't be given.
> >THE BUN'S OWN SYSTEM SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN ITS OWN BALANCE.

> would it be correct to say that acidophilus should be used after treating
> a rabbit with a wide-spectrum anti-biotic?

Sorry...when I wrote "Acidophilus is needed ONLY when a bunny gets...," I
was thinking in terms of emphasizing that it isn't a treatment for hairball
and there is no need to use it all the time.  My statement was, in fact,
incomplete.  Let me try again...

Acidophilus contains the gram-positive bacteria that balance the
gram-negative bacteria in the rabbit's gut.  When these get out of balance
(i.e., the gram-negative taking over), the rabbit is no longer able to
digest food, diahrrea occurs, dehydration is likely, and the gram-negative
bacteria begin producing toxins that can kill the rabbit.

Anything that threatens the balance of these bacteria (including illness,
injury, stress of any kind, and especially certain antibiotics) calls for
acidophilus (or anything that accomplishes the same thing).

As for wide-spectrum antibiotics, they tend to kill both bacteria, so the
addition of acidophilus is certainly appropriate.  My personal belief is
that if a rabbit is taken to a vet, that in itself is reason enough to use
acidophilus for no more reason than that some stress is involved.  I
certainly would give it if ANY antibiotic is given--even Albon, which pretty
much leaves the "good" bacteria alone.

Sorry if I mislead anyone...

Nancy LaRoche (HRS)
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From: jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Looking for snake people on net
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter)
Organization: IBM Almaden Research Center

In article <2123@coyote.UUCP> jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter) writes:
>
>  [ Whereupon I ask about snake sources ]
>

Thanks for all of the quick responses. Please, no more :-)

Now I know what "herp" is. I thought maybe it was something
about pet herpes. Just Kidding.

jeffs

==                                                         ==
"The whole  idea of individual  creativity and  expression in
 the classroom was really basically opposed to the whole idea
 of the University."                 Pirsig
==                                                         ==
From: njl@drutx.ATT.COM (LaRocheNJ)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Acidophiolus, Hay, and Papaya Tablets (was Re: bunnie is now a HE!)
Summary: Be cautious about relying on hay alone to prevent hairball.
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:17:45 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Dec19.052954.24441@bradley.bradley.edu>, gremlin@buhub.bradley.edu (Stephanie Udry) writes:
> 
> so, we took "he/her/it" to the vet.....
> 
> i told him about the papaya and acidophilus...he said she really didn't nneed
> papaya if we made sure he ate plenty of hay....

I have seen bunnies get hairball even with plenty of hay (although hay is
definitely one factor that helps prevent it).  I have never seen a bunny
get hairball if they get hay, exercise, and chewable papaya tablets with
amylase.  Of course, some rabbits are more prone to hairball than others,
but I've noticed that rabbits also tend to become more prone to it as
they grow older--it's no surprise if a rabbit who has never had a
hairball develops one when it's around five years of age.  

Anyway, I'd be cautious about skipping any of the three things that help
prevent the problem: HAY, EXERCISE, AND PAPAYA TABLETS CONTAINING
AMYLASE.

By the way, some rabbit pellets (e.g., Manna-Pro "All Purpose") contain
amylase.  Check your feed's label to find out if yours does.  I don't
know if it is a suffient amount, but it is certainly comforting to know
it's there and helping.

> also said acidophilus wan't
> real necessary, but recommended putting it on a banana instead of in water..

Acidophilus is needed ONLY when a bunny gets diahrrea or stops eating.  It
replaces the gram positive bacteria that are lost when these conditions
occur.  If the bun has neither of these, acidophilus shouldn't be given.
THE BUN'S OWN SYSTEM SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN ITS OWN BALANCE.

> plan to try to get her to eat the papaya...once we get some bananas to get
> him used to fruit...

Fresh papaya doesn't contain amylase, which is the enzyme that attacks
the mucous-like material holding the hairball together.  So either use
papaya tablets containing amylase or find some other source for it.
If you use the tablets (chewable), break them over the bun's food for a
few days before trying to get him to take them directly.

> has anyone here had any problem feeding bunny acidophilus in water?  he said
> that buhub would probably not drink the water...

I've not seen bunnies refuse water with acidophilus, but I agree that
banana, cooked oatmeal, etc. (anything moist that the rabbit loves) is
the best way to give acidophilus when it is needed.

Nancy LaRoche (HRS)
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From: jensen@rtsg.mot.com (James D. Jensen)
Subject: Re: Looking for snake people on net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa 
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:09:44 GMT

jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter) writes:


>I just received an albino corn snake for xmas and would like
>to converse with other snake people, but I can not find any
>*.pets.snakes groups - and this group seems to mostly talk
>about snake food (ie. rabbits).

>Any help out there?


Try rec.pets.herp
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: James.Aitchison@p4.f85.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Aitchison)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: WHIMIS or something like that
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 22:10:06 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/85.4 - Western Canada DATA, Stavely Alta

Hi JIM.....

Answering a msg of <20 Dec 92>, from JIM DIXON to OLIVIA SCHAUBLE:
Jim, do you have access to all the data sheets available for any chemical?  I am coordinating the record keeping for all chemical goods at our school and am looking for a standardized print-out for our lab chemicals as well as shop and janitorial chemicals.  Is there a database available to download specific information for chemicals which do not have company supplied spec sheets?

Merry Christmas .<|8-)=,
                         James.....


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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Mind-benders
Date: 27 Dec 92 14:33:48 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Please post the proff and explanation... that is far more interesting 
than the numbers themselves...and if you can also explain how the 
numbers are derived from the proff showing the calculations so we 
can learn how to do it...
 
Fascinating mind-bender you gave.....
 
 
Do you happen to know how to calculate how light can be focussed due 
to variable delay of the photons throught varying density of materials 
or through varying thicknesses of materials? IS this how lenses "bend" 
light?
 
David Rahfeldt - Portland 



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Evolution
Date: 27 Dec 92 14:53:59 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME
WARNING
DO NOT READ IF EASILY OFFENDED
 
(smile)
 
Please refrain from scriptural references until you have managed to 
establish the factual nature of the document you are quoting.
 
The bible has SERIOUS authenticity problems as a historical document 
in some aspects and to use it as such, one would have to detail the 
specific history of the entire set of permutations of language and 
menaing and connotations for the translations and changes made to 
the sections youare quoting...
 
This is a SCIENCE forum...not RELIGION... some referents to the "day 
to day" referents that peopel use in life (some folks are religious) 
is ok, but we need to discriminate what we know as fact from what 
some people may assume on the basis of social convenience or 
indoctrination.
 
As scientists iit is our JOB or TASK to learn to be analytical and 
critical of all data and assumed relationships.
 
definitely NOT to automatically reference highly questionalble data.
 
You may choose to believe the bible is the work of god... and if so 
and if that brings your pleasure or security or makes you behave better 
to your fellow human beings...then I am sure everyone is delighted... 
and that is a fine choice for you to make as an individual for your 
own emotional or personal health... but a questionable or silly reference 
to make in a scientific context.
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: Dan.LaFica@p1.f615.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Dan LaFica)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: simearth in the classroom
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 11:07:45 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/615.1 - Scholasticom, Palmyra NY

 CR> Is anyone using the computer program SIMEARTH in their
 CR> classroom as more than a game?  I want to incorporate it into a
 CR> 9th grade environmental science class as a supplement to

I have the program .... it is great .... I originally wanted to use it
with my ninth grade Earth science students .... but I have the IBM
version ... it requires a hard drive and at least MCGA graphics ...

alas .... I only have  ONE computer that runs it ... so I am trying to
decide if I can do something with SIMEARTH as a demonstration ...

probably not a good idea .... maybe some day the computer gods will
bless me with a classroom full of 487, SVGA machines :-)




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From: York.York@p0.f11.n356.z1.fidonet.org (York York)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: PREGNANCY SURVEY
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 21:53:44 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:356/11.0 - The College, Coos Bay OR

When was the last time you studied life? 


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From: Joshua.Kramer@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Joshua Kramer)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: abortion
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 15:31:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

HS>     1.   Do you believe that abortion is morally right?

No, but just because it's against my morals, doesn't mean someone else
shouldn't be able to do it, if they have a valid reason.  However, I
think that abortion as a form of birth control and teenage pregnancy
control should be outlawed.

HS>     2.   Does religion affect your opinion?

No.

HS>     3.   Should minors be required to notify a parent before
HS>          having the abortion?

It depends... if the father is a parent of the minor, well, possibly
not... but if the father is a peer, then the abortion should not be
allowed unless it is doing physical harm to the mother.

HS>     4.   Should women be required to have counciling and a 24 hour
HS>          waiting period before having the abortion?

No.  If abortion is used properly, that is, only when it's doing
physical harm to the mother, then that will not be required.

HS>     5.   What about illegal or back-alley abortion clinics?  Do
HS>          you think that if abortions were illegal, more young
HS>          women would turn to these out of desparation?

Yes, unfortunately.

HS>     If you have any disscussion or medical information on
HS>abortion, I would love to hear from you!  Also, please state your
HS>age and area you are from.  Thank You!

I'm 17 and I'm from Columbus, Ohio...

--Josh


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From: Rebekah.Lawrence@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Rebekah Lawrence)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: computers
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 10:25:45 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

Hello Everyone,  My name is Rebekah Lawrence and I am a senior at
Bonners Ferry High School.  I live in a small town (pop. 2100)
where not much happens.  My curiousity has once again been set
loose and has started wondering again.  This time, about computers. 
 
The up-and-coming computers have just started to fascinate me as
never before.  Our tiny community has recently aquired all sorts of
computers which have stirred up a lot of curiousity in the minds of
those who are using this equipment.  We have been having a great
time with a cd rom system and.  We are also enjoying playing with
sound waves and with a camera that transfers its pictures onto the
television and takes motion pictures turning our actions `semi-
cartoonish'.  The computer is new to me and I know very little
about it.  I wonder how many schools across the world are
experimenting and enjoying the computers of the 90's.  Tell me
about it...    Thank You for your time,  Please write back as soon
as you have the time.                            Rebekah Lawrence
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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From: JIM.DIXON@f240.n353.z1.fidonet.org (JIM DIXON)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Evolution
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 11:47:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:353/240 - The Polish Connecti, Westbank BC

 Jim Dixon is responding to Mickey Rowe's bytes to All
 about Re: Evolution

 MR> From: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe)
 MR> Date: 20 Dec 92 21:38:37 GMT
 MR> In article <31105.2B322E42@puddle.fidonet.org>
 MR> Jessica.Smith@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Jessica Smith) writes:
 >To Mickey-
 
 >Will scientists ever have enough information to prove positively
 >where we came from?

 MR> To really answer this, I'd have to drift a bit far from the topic of
 MR> science.  Rather than do that, I'll paraphrase something that Indiana
 MR> Jones said in "The Last Crusade".

 MR> Science is in the business of finding facts, not truth.  If you want

Or as R. A. Heinlein once wrote;

   "There are 3 schools of magic. One: State a tautology, then ring the
changes on its corollaries; that's philosophy. Two: Record many facts. Try
to see a pattern. Then make a wrong guess at the next fact; that's science.
Three: Awarness that you live in a malevolent universe controlled by
Murphy's law, sometimes offset in part by Brewster's Factor: that's
engineering."  ;-)



... There are 3 sides to every story, Their side, Your side, and the Truth
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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Evolution
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 23:11:53 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

EH GODS
 
Can we put this evolutionary dispute in the trash can...
 
If people want to espouse GOD DID IT, then let them produce GOD for 
scientific examination.
 
I am sure I can arrange the lab and instrumentation to test GOD when 
you bring him in.
 
Until then, with no empiric to support the existance of a GOD, lets 
table it as personal beliefs and specuialtion...
 
I believe in Santa Claus and SuperMan too... but I base neither my 
business decisions, life planning, nor scientific theorizing on either 
Santa Claus or Superman...
 
Personal beliefs for emotional security or fun are great.. but they 
have no place in science ...
 
dispute anyone?
 
smile...
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: PREGNANCY SURVEY
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:12:41 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

I left home at 14with girlfriend (older woman!) and newborne child.
 
I do NOT recommend having children young unless you have a strong 
support network or LOTS of cash or both... the time and effort it 
takes can overstress you like you could not believe... and if you 
also want to make a good future and achieve well academically and 
professionally then you need the time to grow up and socialize and 
to grow in general....
 
I was lucky exception. I have travelled the world many times and see 
n many sights, worked as professor and mercenary, as senior executive 
and senior scientist, been a bum and bandit, pilot and philanderer, 
and just about everything else...
 
I lost almost all my hair from stress (and high toesterone and genetics) 
by age 20....
 
I had Ph.D. by age 19
 
Unusual stress makes for unsual disasters or successes, but like battle 
in a war... most of the new recruits that die do so early after hitting 
th battle or th streets... few live to old age and ever rfewer do 
so happily without neurosis induced by previous stresses and traumas...
 
 
I think pregnancies and births at early age could be wonderful and 
beautiful experiecnes..but only if you have the right resources and 
supportive environment to make sure you are able to care for the child 
and not everstressed...
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: Cynthia.Andersen@f48.n128.z1.fidonet.org (Cynthia Andersen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Science curriculum
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 08:34:24 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:128/48 - Sci-Line, Colorado Springs CO

Has antone heard of the Middle School science curriculum called Microcosmos?  It was developed by BU and is very inquiry oriented and hands-on as well as lo tech (no expensive equipment)  If anyone has info on how I can obtain curriculum or activities please drop a line here as I'm quite anxious to try it. Thanks!


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From: Rebekah.Venable@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Rebekah Venable)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Abortion
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 11:45:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

HS>     1.   Do you believe that abortion is morally right?
         No
HS>     2.   Does religion affect your opinion?
         Yes
HS>     3.   Should minors be required to notify a parent before
HS>          having the abortion?
         Yes
HS>     4.   Should women be required to have counciling and a 24 hour
HS>          waiting period before having the abortion?
         Yes
HS>     5.   What about illegal or back-alley abortion clinics?  Do
HS>          you think that if abortions were illegal, more young
HS>          women would turn to these out of desparation?
         They probably would, but that is the consequences of their sin.

        Rebekah Venable  Age 16  Taipei, Taiwan

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From: Jim.Maroon@f33.n214.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Maroon)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: evolution
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 10:15:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:214/33 - Tulare County Schoo, Visalia CA

 -=> Quoting York York to Daniel A Ashlock <=-

 YY> what are you specific points of disbeleifs towards evolution????

        What are you reading, Sir York?  I think it is obvious that Daniel
 accepts evolution as fact.

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From: Carletta.Smith@f2.n297.z1.fidonet.org (Carletta Smith)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Environment
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 22:26:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:297/2 - Black Knight PCBoar, Farmington MO

We are SEED- Students Engaged in Environmental Defense, the environmental club at Farmington High School in Farmington, Missouri. We are open to any suggestions that anyone might have about projects or services we could do to help the environment.  Please let us know if you have any ideas or thoughts on the subject- we are open to anything. Thank You.   Jennifer Cleve and Carletta Smith.



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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Recycle
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 20:33:57 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of <21 Dec 92  10:37:21>, Adam Clark (1:346/14) writes:

 AC>     Hello, my name is Adam Clark.  I am a very concerned teenager
 AC>that lives in Bonners Ferry, Idaho.  At our local grocery store,
 AC>the food baggers usually ask me if I want my groceries in a paper
 AC>or plastic bag.  Which one is actually better in enviromental
 AC>terms? I don't know, you tell me!
 AC>     I realize it must take alot of trees to make paper bags, which
 AC>are used in stores across our nation everyday.  I also realize that
 AC>harmful chemicals are used in producing plastic bags and they are
 AC>harmful when deposited in our land fills.  Both plastic and paper
 AC>can be recycled, but not everyone recycles.

The true environmentally aware shopper brings his own reusable cloth shopping  
bag to the market.  That way he uses neither the paper or the plastic bag that  
the super market supplies. 



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From: James.Aitchison@p4.f85.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Aitchison)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Endometriosis
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 21:16:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/85.4 - Western Canada DATA, Stavely Alta

Hi Sara.....


 SP> great help.  Also if anyone has any information on how to prevent
 SP> endometriosis, and other remedies beside surgery. Please, do tell.

My sister-in-law had a serious case of Endometriosis and was treated surgically in or near Bend, Oregon?  Seems there is a clinic specializing in the treatment of your disease.  Anyway, if you want more info, let me know and I'll get her to sit down and post you a message.

Merry Christmas .<|8-)=,
                         James.....


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