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From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Need Video Editing Recommendations
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:41:50 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1ictiqINNlpa@hp-col.col.hp.com>, chrism@col.hp.com (Chris Magnuson) writes:
> 
>   I would like to produce an amateur video, but would like it to look
> professional.  What I envision is that I could have 2 different source tapes
> combined through a mixer into a master, with the source tapes under remote
> control to control playback points, etc.

I am building one of these - can you say mega dollars...

Source tapes are created via a Sony TR-101 clone and a Sony V801 clone.

The tapes are played back via Sony V801 clone and Sony CVD-1000 VISCA deck and
recorded to the TR-101 clone.  The equipment list includes... 

	Two Feral Industries C-100N			$ 3,000
	Sony V801 clone					$ 1,100
	Sony TR-101 clone				$ 1,400
	Two VISCA CI-1000 Vboxes			$   420
	Sony CVD-1000 VISCA deck			$ 1,300
							-------
							$ 7,220

I don't what your design model is for the two input tapes but my goal is to
record the same event using two CamCorders and put the tapes together after 
the fact.  The problem is if you want to keep the original audio you can't 
just cut between the two tapes.  The tape recorded on the V801 will be shot 
from a fixed position e.g. pointed at the speaker during a lecture.  The tape 
recorded on the TR-101 will be used for inserts such as question from the 
audience or slides on the screen.  Both the TR-101 and V801 will be started at 
the same time and left in record mode for the entire event.  The remote mikes 
will be fed to the V801.  When I assemble the final tape I will start the 
TR101 and V801 tapes from the same point in time.  I will only use the audio 
from the V801 tape.  I will cut in the video from the TR-101 tape as needed.  
Since the TBC's keep everything in sync I can just switch between the two 
video sources.

I am writting the VISCA control software to do this now.  The end effect will 
be having a two camera tape shot by one person.

-- 
Jeff Killeen - DECUS U.S. Chapter NLC Chair | Email:killeen@eisner.decus.org

DECUS is for folks who are responsible for delivering computing technology.
The NLC is the national council for DECUS's Local User Groups - come join us!
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: VCR PLUS code conflicts in TV Guide
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:16:55 GMT
Keywords: vcr+

In article <4696@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.042055.9206@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:

>Like I said in a previous posting, get a VCR that doesn't lose time when
>the power goes out.  Doing that ahead of time would have saved the expense
>of buying another gadget.

Tell me where I can get an ED-Beta that does that and I might think
about it.  But my EDs will hold for about 10 minutes or so.

I thought I'd mentioned Florida power outages before.  Summer time it
can happen daily.

And I recall one really ferocious storm about 18 months ago where we
had 1000 strikes in a 15 minute period, and 10,000 in the 24 hour
period.  Needless to say that was a record, but it did make the video
coverage of the gulf war look tame.

And we typically KILL at two people in the metro area each year.  Think
we got more this past year.  And where lighthing goes, power failures
quickly follow.

>If the power is out when the VCR+ tries to make the VCR record, it still
>ain't going to record.

But if the power goes out for a couple of hours when I'm away for a
couple of days, the chances are greater for the power to be on when I
want to record than not. 
-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org  bill@bilver.uucp
                - ..!{peora|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo,rec.arts.books
From: glk9533@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg L. Kimnach)
Subject: Re: Photo CD
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
Date: 11 Jan 1993 13:19 EST  

In article <93008.175133LENBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, Spartacus/CUNY LC NY <LENBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes...
>In article <8JAN199313465827@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov>, glk9533@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov
>(Greg L. Kimnach) says:
>>
>>In my house it's the VHS deck that gathers dust. :-)
>>
>>And I'm glad that I wasn't part of the herd of sheep that went with VHS....
>>>
>>Greg
> 
>Gee Greg, doesn't it bother you renting those same "2" beta movies
>everytime? :-) hehehehe

Granted, I recently lost the opportunity to rent ANY new title on Beta (can
purchase all new ones though, if it's a "keeper").  However, I can rent many
titles on LD, and use I Beta for timeshifting, archiving, and producing my own
videos.  So my video system is not single dimensional.  I did pick the best!

Have you ever seen a betamax and its picture?

Hehehehe......
> 
>------------------------------+             All The Best,
>Reply To:                     |
>     LenBC@CunyVM.Cuny.Edu    |             Edward Galarza
>     LenBC@CunyVM.BitNet      |             Brooklyn College Of The
>     IRC: Spartacus           |             City University Of New York
>------------------------------+             "Que viva el OS/2!"
>"MASOCHIST: Windows SDK programmer with a smile!"

Greg
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                         ED-Beta: Simply THE BEST!
"ED Beta is simply the best consumer videotape format available."
                                     --VIDEO Magazine, Nov. 1992, page 30.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Looking for CDV 5" music videos
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:03:04 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@csn.org
Organization: Fort Collins, Colorado
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

TFSTAM01@UKCC.UKY.EDU wrote:

> I am interested in finding CDV-5" music videos.

Lumivision CDV8801 may still be orderable. It contains a video-single
medeley of their 12-inch "Flight of the Dream Team".

> I have also found the only non-music video 5" CDV
> in existence, the Will Clark baseball highlights.

There are others, like the DigiPress (France) "Century Technology" demo
CDV, (pressed by Disctronics).  No catalog number.

> Also...does anyone know if this format will ever be reserected?

Doubtful. It does seem to be still going in Japan.

Regards,                                               Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland   Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM                   3404 East Harmony Rd.
After 1/15:  rjn@CSN.ORG or 71044.2124@CompuServe.COM  Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: ddavis@gain.com (David P. Davis)
Subject: LD players: Panasonic LX900 vs Pioneer D701 (info needed)
Organization: Gain Technology, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:44:18 GMT


-- 

Anyone have experience with the Panasonic LX900 LD player?  I have looked
at both (briefly) and didnt see any real differences between them.  Both
have automatic side changing, digital field store (CLV slow play), and
a retail price of $999 (US).

I understand that the Pioneer player has a problem with some defective
LDs that cause rolling black lines to appear.  Anyone else seen this
problem with the 701, or know if it can be fixed?

The Panasonic had a special filter for the video with a normal and 2 other
modes.  I couldnt see the difference on the scratched CLV that I was playing.
It also has some worthless special effects (digital fat bits with color
skewing; I dont know what this is actually called).

Any advice would be welcome.

					Thanks,
						David Davis

--
David P. Davis
Gain Technology Inc.
Palo Alto, CA
ddavis@gain.com

Standard Disclaimer:

	The above does not represent the views and/or opinions of
	Sybase Inc. or Gain Technology Inc.
From: GNICK@RCHVMP3.VNET.IBM.COM
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: color distortion in copy -- WHY?
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:10:21 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Does anyone know the possible cause/cure for the following problem?

My 8mm Yashica camcorder original videos playback from the camera
just fine on my monitor (TV).
However, when I copy (edit) to my VHS tabletop VCR, the resulting copy playback
has a band across the top (10-25% wide) that looks much more PINK than the
rest of the image, which looks OK.

What is causing this pink band?

Thanx for any help.

--Nick
gnick@rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
From: cmc@cs.utexas.edu (Chi Ming Cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Tape rewinder (Re: Tape snapped at beginning of tape)
Date: 10 Jan 1993 18:57:18 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: grit.cs.utexas.edu

In article <4300154@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> steed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary Steed) writes:
	[deleted]
>These issues coupled with the problems that the cheaper rewinders can cause
>to tapes, have kept me from buying one so far. 
	[deleted]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
In addition to the danger of cheap rewinder snapping tape, my rewinder will
occasionally mangle up the first 1 or 2 loops of the tape.  The
tape slipped off the reel.  I think this may be caused by the rewinder
rewinding the tape too fast.

--M.
From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: VCR puts saw-toothed edge on tape
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:19:08 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <C0CJGn.s9D@austin.ibm.com>, cheung@cheung.austin.ibm.com (Po L. Cheung) writes:
|> 
|> My Magnavox VCR (HiFi VHS, 6 years old) is putting a fine saw-toothed cringle
|> on the bottom edge of the tape, as if something along the tape path is too
|> narrow for the tape to pass through.
|> 
|> It also seems that whenever the tape picks up that saw-toothed edge, I lose
|> tracking on the HiFi Stereo track and to a smaller extent the video track.
|> It happens intermittently, but mostly during record on brand new tapes
|> (various brands: Sony, TDK, Maxell).  It happens less often to well-used tapes.
|> 
|> The tape head and path look clean.  (I use a Sony dry head cleaning tape
|> followed by a Memorex wet cleaning tape.)
|> 
|> What's wrong?  Is this something I can fix myself?  Any suggestions
|> and recommendations are appreciated.

The tape path has slipped, my magnovox 1260 (hifi VHS 6 years old) did
the same thing. Get it to a good repair place and get it into adjustment
ASAP. I did (I also got a new VCR, can't rick my collection) and
currently use it only on rental tapes. But the path can be adjested by
a GOOD TECH.
From: colint@spider.co.uk (Colin Tinto)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sound problems with Mits. HS-M55
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:03:47 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

In article <14045@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> maurices@clyde.uk.sun.com writes:
>Colin I to have noticed this on several pre-recorded tapes that I have played 
>on my Mitsubishi HSM55 , I have also noticed 'Crackles' on Nicam soundtrack 
>from Mitsubushi video as reported by Richard Harnwell.
>I have exchanged tapes in the past for the crackles and found that other tapes 
>didn't have that problem.  Although I was always suspicous as the crackles 
>only ever appeared on the right stereo track.
>The Burr problem, I have heard on several tapes, exchanging one of these 
>tapes solved the problem but 
>I have still got the "Burr" on some others . This is pretty anoying when you 
>have a subwoofer connected as part of your
>A/V system.
>out of intrest how long have you had your video for?
>regards.
>Maurice.


The video is 5 months old, and reasonably well used.   I am thinking about 
going back to the shop where I bought it with some tapes and headphones and
trying one out there.

Unfortunately, many of the tapes I have were bought over a year ago, and I
don't think I'd be able to take them back :-(

I have noticed the crackle as well, but only a tiny bit at the start of
Terminator 2, which I thought was just the usual bits of noise you sometimes
get at the start of tapes.

I don't have the luxury of a sub woofer, and my current television has terrible
sound, but a new television may show up the problem as my headphones did...

And all this from a video that one the "What Video Mid-price machine of the 
year"  !!


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: ghica@fig.citib.com (Renato Ghica)
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Originator: ghica@duck
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:22:14 GMT


In article <usul.726646169@mcl>, usul@mcl.ucsb.edu (Matt Staroscik) writes:
|> In <J.Newman.196.726304136@icarus.curtin.edu.au> J.Newman@icarus.curtin.edu.au (John Newman) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >>>>If its digital, it can be transfered to many different digital mediums.
|> >>>>Just like transfering an old text file from a 160k 5 1/4 floppy
|> >>>>to a 2.88mb  3 1/2 floppy.   Or uploading my floppy file to 3380
|> >>>>mainframe diskpack or digital tape.  etc etc etc...etc
|> 
|> >>
|> >>I think that there is another problem with these medias: years! While you can 
|> >>store a paper photo in a good strong album for a siecle, I'm really sceptical 
|> >>about magnetic/digital storage that can be *easily* scrached/destroyed by 
|> >>several things. 
|> >>I still have readable listings of some algorithms I made 10 years ago but I'm 
|> >>not sure I could load the files from a 10 years old 5 1/4 floppy disk!
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> [Stuff deleted]
|> 
|> >Forget magnetic storage for archiving images and keep them on paper or film!
|> 
|> Forget magnetic, but optical storage is definitely an option!
|> If what I've heard is correct, the CD standard is being re-defined - future
|> CDs complying with the new standard (which I'm not sure when it'll be finalized)are supposed to have a lifetime of 1,000 years...

????
What do the ISO/HSFS standards have to do with the durability of the media?
You can have a ISO disk on granite as long it follows standards.
(of course it would have to be very shiny granite, and the laser would have
to be a little bit hotter to burn dimples in the granite.

There's no standard as far as the construction of the CD goes, is there?

|> And CDs are durable enough if you handle them carefully and don't get them
|> wet, precautions you would take with most any other media I can think of.
^^^^^^^^^

????

Last time I looked CD are completely water-proof. They are covered with
a layer of -poly*something* that completely isolates from them from air.
That's why they can last 40+ years in ideal conditions.

This is the factory CDs, of course.

The ones you can stamp with a $20,000 one-off machine obviously don't have
any extra coating......


-- 

"delete *this"

"These views are my own. / Mail me or Flame me"
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mwgordon@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Gordon)
Subject: Re: HERE IS VCR Plus source code
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 04:55:37 GMT


    Could some kind soul please compile encode.c and decode.c on a PC and put
it up on an FTP site or post it uuencoded?  I don't have access to a C compiler
or a shell archiver/dearchiver.

Thanks much,
Mike Gordon   N9LOI  99681084@uwwvax.uww.edu


Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mikeho@seeker.mystic.com (Michael Ho)
Subject: Re: Bent vertical lines near top of screen
Organization: Mystic Software Pittsburg, Ca
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:38:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.215551.18008@netcom.com> kehcheng@netcom.com (Keh-Cheng Chu) writes:
>When playing some video rental tapes, the top 5% of the screen suffers
>a gradual horizontal shift to the right.
>
>So far I've noticed this problem with some of the tapes I rented and
>some of my Walt Disney tapes.  Tapes recorded on the JVC deck or on
>my old Sharp deck show no such deformation.

I think this is caused by Macrovision, a supposedly invisible copy-protection
scheme that is used by most major movie companies, including Disney.



-- 
()_()  ... Michael Ho
 (_)   ... Internet:  mikeho@seeker.mystic.com    UUCP:  ...!seeker!mikeho
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: Karaoke LD
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:15:46 GMT

Besides microphone input and digital signal processing, what are 
the differences between conventional LD players and karaoke LD 
players?  Can conventional LD players use karaoke discs?
Newsgroups: rec.video,sci.electronics
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: An intro to HDTV
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:16:26 GMT

In article <C0D9vE.47I@cup.hp.com> jem@cup.hp.com (Jim McCauley) writes:
>David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu) wrote:
>: Unfortunately I suspect that the requirement to squeeze an HDTV signal
>: into a 6 MHz band would lead to the elimination of any "extra" data
>: carrying capacity of the signal.  Anyone know?
>
>This depends entirely on the coding/compression method.  Interframe
>compression of low-motion/moderate detail scenes will have lots of
>extra data space left over -- but the amount of space and timeliness
>of delivery of the "extra" data cannot be predicted or guaranteed with
>great exactitude.

Good point, I'd forgotten about this.  I think I've also read somewhere
that particularly "busy" scenes in the broadcast might lose detail
because those scenes require too high a data rate.  Other scenes where
large portions of successive images can be described as "same as before" or
"same as before but four pixels to the left" might use considerably less
bandwidth.  IEEE Spectrum and IEEE Computer magazines have run a few
articles about HDTV compression techniques--unfortunately the best article
ran a couple of years ago and I threw out that issue.

Stuff like stock market quotes and cricket scores don't need to be sent
with every frame; in fact they could survive quite a few seconds of
"carrier too busy" provided that the receiver has a reasonable buffer
to store the most recent data for viewing.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)



Newsgroups: rec.video
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: LD-S2, LD-X1 what's the difference?
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:07:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan07.060932.5964@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
>In article <9301060801.AA20886@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> CHONGHGP@SGPVM1.VNET.IBM.COM ("Peter Chong") writes:
>>Anyone know what is the difference between the Pioneer LD-S1, LD-S2 so
>>raved by everyone in the US, and the LD-X1 found in Asia?

>The LD-S1 is an older model (~1987-90) and was the first LD player to
>have digital field effects.  The LD-S2 is currently the most expensive
>LD player in the U.S. but, as it was introduced in mid-1990, is getting
>dated.  I don't know how the LD-X1 relates to these two.

I thought it was the LD-W1 with first digital field effects.
It was also their first dual drawer unit.   Or am confused.

Couldn't be too confused as I have an LD-W1  :-)

-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org  bill@bilver.uucp
                - ..!{peora|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: porges@beretta.camb.inmet.com (Don Porges)
Subject: Re: Stereo commercials, mono programming?
Organization: Intermetrics Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:47:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.065214.22765@bradley.bradley.edu> guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan) writes:
>	Occasionally I have seen the stereo light blink on when the signal
>for a mono station got too noisy (which seems odd to me, anyone want
>to comment on that?).  However, today I started paying close attention
>to the light and noticed that while watching USA (which is mono over
>the cable system here), whenever a _local_ commercial would come on,
>the stereo light would come on too.  Like I could give a shit if the
>commercials were in stereo...  So what I want to know is what is the
>deal here?  Is the `hard part' in converting the USA satellite stereo
>feed to a cable-ready stereo signal, or is the `hard part' just in
>putting out a stereo cable signal to begin with.  Is the cable company
>being competent in not decoding the stereo satellite feed, or just
>cheap in that they won't pay for the required equipment?

Your cable company may be generating noise that sets off your MTS
light.  (It's a pilot tone somewhere around 15kHz.)  Is the signal 
in question REAL stereo, or are you just noticing the light coming on?
-- 
					-- Don Porges
					porges@inmet.camb.inmet.com
					..uunet!inmet!porges
From: ins_wayne@actew.oz.au
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Q: What cable type for S-video?
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:15:00 EST
Organization: ACT Electricity & Water

  Situation: Having failed to locate an S-Video cable long
  enough for my projector, I've been digging deeper and found the
  connectors (no mean feat in itself!)

  Question: anyone got any bright ideas about what kind of cable
  to use?  Obviously, there are four wires.  We think we can get
  by with microphone cable.  75 ohm figure-8 coax.  The stock in
  question is "OFC" (oxygen free cable), so should be of decent
  quality.  Two cores each, plus shield.  We'd connect the shields
  together, of course.

  Some of the specs I see on S-video specify "unbalanced 75ohm," which
  implies to me a simple 4-conductor-with-shield, but I suspect
  we'll have to be a bit more careful with a long cable; I need a
  minimum of 12 meters, preferably 15+.  I have managed to find
  10m cables prefabricated, but I think that a cable strung
  through the middle of the room might get a little distracting! :-)

  The 10m cable is one made specially for Sharp here, and they say
  that they don't think S-video will run terribly well over much
  more than 10m.  I'm prepared to give it a go.

  I'd appreciate any ideas; I'll report on my experiments when the
  bits'n'pieces arrive and I can start fiddling.  I dare say that
  this kind of thing will become more common in the near future.

  Thanks in advance...
-- 
Wayne Myles             Email: ins_wayne@actew.oz.au, wsm@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au
System Manager,	        Snail: GPO Box 366, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia.
ACT Electricity & Water	   Ph: +61-6-248-3143 (w)  Fax: +61-6-248-3439