HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dekorte@next2.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Cool .dir.tiff/.opendir.tiff (small RTF)
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:35:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.225405.15278@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>  
coco@ihcoco.att.com 
(Felix A. Lugo) writes:
> | 
> | Neat TIFFs.  Isn't the preferred method of distributing such  
things
> | though the ftp archives, though...
> | 
> | --
> | Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
..
>
> 	Not any more !!   8^)
> 
> 	I love RTF-NewsGrazer ... Keep-em coming gentry!
> 
 I agree!

S. Dekorte (dekorte@next2.scri.fsu.edu)    

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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: running Word on the NeXT (was RTF: Mac Word vs NeXT)
Reply-To: andrew@cubetech.com
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 06:48:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.050557.2283@adeptsln.cts.com> Roy_Lovejoy@adeptsln.cts.com  
writes:

>  Please tell us you are working HEAVILY on PhotoShop! ;)

Well, Photoshop wouldn't be all that hot with 1-bit video... Creating a  
software Mac Emulator is hard enough, emulating 32-bit Quickdraw and going to  
PostScript at faster than glacial speeds is probably a major pain in butt.   
There are several companies working night and day to come out with a good  
photo-retouching app, so by the time ARD gets even a color beta out that could  
run Photoshop, there will be several native apps that you would probably rather  
use.  I think ARD should concentrate on printing and getting more complete  
emulation to run all those apps that we probably won't see on NeXTstep for a  
while.



andrew
-- 
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Andrew Loewenstern            |  "listen: there's a hell of a good universe
Cube Technologies, Inc.       |   next door; let's go." --- e.e. cummings
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: coco@ihcoco.att.com (Felix A. Lugo)
Subject: Re: SEF did it again
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, I.L.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:06:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.183329.9445@newshost.lanl.gov> tms@twins.lanl.gov writes:
| In article <1992Apr10.074920.7384@darkcube.radig.de> vhs@darkcube.radig.de  
| (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) writes:
| <stuff about a Sean Eric Fagan mail bounce>
| 
| Just ignore him.  Pretend he doesn't exist.
| 
| Todd
| --
| !  "Finally, some good  ! Todd M. Swan (ADP-2 - MS P910)!
| !  software for a PC."  ! tms@lanl.gov  (NeXTMail)      !
| !  -- Steve Jobs on     ! Los Alamos National Laboratory!
| !     NeXTstep '486     ! Los Alamos, NM  87545         !

	Who's SEF?    8^)

---

===========================================================================
Felix A. Lugo

E-Mail: (NeXTmail preferred)			Felix_A_Lugo@ATT.COM
						coco@ihcoco.att.com
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     HOME NeXTcube				home@ihcoco.att.com
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From: tsar.Princeton.EDU!fuchs (Ira H. Fuchs)
Subject: BUG in Mail.app
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:09:12 GMT

I just stumbled on what may be a flaw in the Mail.app that resulted in the  
loss of more than 100 message attachments.
I am not completely sure of what caused this but my guess is as follows: 

1. I selected a slew of messages and started a Transfer from Active.mbox  
to another.mbox.

2. When Mail.app appeared to be finished (i.e., cursor no longer spinning  
and Mail.app takes commands), I went back to Active.mbox and did a Compact  
operation so that I would not have duplicate attachments taking up many  
megabytes.

3. When the compact operation completes, what I find is that almost all  
the messages in Another.mbox are missing their attachments (including  
index.rtf files, etc.).

4. I presume that what happened is that Mail.app gave control back to the  
me (i.e. pretended to be finished) when it completed the mbox transfer and  
it then began to move the attachments in the background. In the meantime,  
I went back to Active.mbox and did a compact which does a remove of all  
the attachments for the messages that have been moved. The remove  
operation competed with the move operation and, of course, the removes won  
thus resulting in a whole lot of lost mail.
From: cmaeda+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Maeda)
Subject: Re: NeXT in a different class than Apple and IBM (was: Shitty (educational
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 14:38:47 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Apr6.175204.3953@splunge.uucp> royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland) writes:
>
>It's easy to pull a NeXT out of the box and use it, as long as all you
>want to do is use it standalone and preconfigured.  But putting a modem
>on your box is not as simple as plugging in the cable and firing up your
>comm program, for example.  

Yes it is.  I plugged in my modem and ran kermit.  I've never had a problem.

-- 
Chris Maeda, Grad Student and RetroGrouch <cmaeda@cs.cmu.edu>
"A unix signature isn't a return address, it's the ASCII equivalent of
a black velvet clown painting. It's a rectangle of carets surrounding
a quote from a literary giant of weeniedom like Heinlein or Dr. Who."
From: ngervae@next.com (Nik Gervae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adobe Systems Incorporated -- and a Question
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:17:00 GMT

In article <9APR199207350244@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov> silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov  
(Dick Silbar) writes:
> However, a QUESTION: it seems that when I installed the fonts in
> /NextLibrary/Fonts (using whatever-it-is-called--FontMaker? I am not
> now at my NeXT), some OTHER fonts which were in that directory that
> I never saw in the Font Panel before, now also appeared there and were
> usable!  These were fonts that came with WordPerfect, and include
> interesting things like modern Greek, Cyrillic, Kana(s), numerous
> Math symbols not found in Symbol, and LineDrawing characters.
> 
> I'm very happy about this development as well, but how did it happen?
> Did the FontMaker app tell the Font Panel to install everything it
> finds in NextLibrary/Fonts?

You shouldn't be installing anything into /NextLibrary (or /NextApps or  
/NextAnything, for that matter).  If you add fonts of your own, you should  
create a /LocalLibrary/Fonts directory and put the fonts there.  If the font  
installer you used didn't give you a chance to put fonts where you choose, then  
don't use that installer.

The reason I've heard for this is that you don't want those fonts overwritten  
when you do an update (though there may be other reasons).  You may not update  
often, but it's just easy enough to forget that you put something in a /Next*  
directory, and *poof* it's gone....

And you don't have a backup....

--
Nik Gervae
Software Publications
ngervae@next.com
From: fifi@hiss.han.de (Axel Zinser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: files on ext. HD change their ownership by themselves ?!
Keywords: Summary
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:55:28 GMT
Reply-To: fifi@hiss.han.de
Organization: Fifi's NeXT Disaster Area, Hannover, Germany

In article <1992Apr09.170729.2403@hiss.han.de> I asked:
> I just connect my old 105-MB hard disk as a second disk to my NeXTstation.
> All worked fine up to the moment I recognized that the ownership of all
> files had been changed to fifi.nogroup (my own id is fifi.fifi). [...]

Thanks for all the answers, the reason had been that I left the second
hard disk under control of autodiskmount. Solution: creating a correct
entry in /etc/fstab by running (for example) 'mount -p > /etc/fstab' and
rebooting the system. Since that all works fine.

Regards & Thanks, Axel
-- 
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Uni Hildesheim, RZ	+49 5121 883577		      fifi@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
	email - innovativ, dauerhaft, umweltvertraeglich...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose (Christopher Penrose)
Subject: Re: RightBrain Software to Ship Source Code
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:20:17 GMT

Glenn Reid writes
> moose@svcdudes.com writes
> > In article <1992Apr1.181021.20488@cs.yale.edu>  
> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu  
> > (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> > > This posting does not belong in this group.  Glenn, you are
> > > violating the the only newsgroup policing mechanism - trust -
> > > when you post these marketing announcements in this group.

This thread is ridiculous.  Glenn's original post totally belongs in this
newsgroup.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: adrian@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Adrian Smith)
Subject: PowerGlove driver/software
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:41:45 GMT

Some time ago (a year?) someone posted source code to one of the archives  
that was, in essence, a driver for a Nintendo PowerGlove. I believe it was  
a small drawing app that would use the Glove for an input device. If it's  
still around could someone point me at it, or mail it to me? I've tried  
all the usual sites, but it doesn't seem to exist anymore...

Thanks,

Adrian Smith

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From: gondwana@athena.mit.edu (Matthias G Imhof)
Subject: S, SPlus and NeXT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:09:50 GMT

Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 09:33:57 PDT
From: stephen@gandalf.berkeley.edu (Stephen Shiboski)
To: gondwana@athena.mit.edu
Subject: NewS

The latest release of S by AT&T (version 3.0) has been compiled
for and is running on NeXTs. Unfortunately, AT&T charges $5000 for
a 10 user license (educational price) and offers no single user options.
Statsci Inc. in Seattle produces a commercial version of S called Splus.
It has everything in the AT&T version, with some enhancements and additions.
They are in the process of porting version 3.0 to the NeXT. The first release
will run under X windows (this is now in beta testing), with the NeXTstep
version to follow sometime in the next year. The X version should be on the 
market no later than May of this year and will cost around $900 (educational).
I think that purchasers of the X version should receive free upgrades to the 
NeXTstep version. Splus does support the dynamic loading feature of S,
whereby user-written C and FORTRAN routines can be called. Also, version 3.0
adds "packages" for  linear and nonlinear regression, analysis of variance, 
generalized linear models, nonparametric regression, generalized additive models
, etc. This is a real improvement over the last version for the casual user.

If you have the opportunity, posting this to comp.sys.next.misc would be a 
service to the NeXT community. I don't get many chances to read (or post to) 
the news groups ...

					 Cheers,

					 Steve Shiboski
					 University of Calif., San Francisco
					 stephen@stat.Berkeley.EDU

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jjfeiler@relief.relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Re: Ac_Chen Re: NeXT game ADDICTION ALERT!
Reply-To: jjfeiler@relief.relief.com
Organization: KiaB, relief consulting
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:49:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.054042.6324@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew  
Loewenstern) writes:
> In article <gdrVBle00iUy03l25W@andrew.cmu.edu> wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (William  
M.  
> Bumgarner) writes:
> 
> >  Think about the game-- it is one of the most abusive, sadistic games
> >  written.  Straight-ahead, no holds barred, think-fast-or-die kind of
> >  game.  If the UI or anything were nice, it would take away from the
> >  impact of the game.
> 
> I HATE IT I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT.
> 
> but damnit, I can't stop playing!

Finally, I can get back to work.  Finished it with 2433 points.  I SegHoarked  
the binary, and found a sound called bavarianfunk.snd or something like that,  
but never heard it.  I sorta expected it to be the "congratulations" sound.   
Does anyone know when this sound plays?

> 
> andrew
> -- 
> andrew@cubetech.com
> Andrew Loewenstern            |  "listen: there's a hell of a good universe
> Cube Technologies, Inc.       |   next door; let's go." --- e.e. cummings


--
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3800 14th Ave. SE D-165
Lacey, WA  98503-2273		   
Independent NeXT Developer 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi)
Subject: Serial ports up to 57,000 bps???
Keywords: serial port bps 56 57 38 modem dte dtc
Reply-To: esky@mayhem.icsl.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 17:47:28 GMT

Hi,

Some modems like the Intel 14.4 EX can go up to 57,000 bps between the modem  
and the computer.  Can the NeXT achieve this high rate or is it limited to  
38,4000 bps?

Thanks.
Eskandar.

esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu
esky@mayhem.icsl.ucla.edu

-------------------------
"Through the angel rain,
 Into the dust and the gasoline,
 Through the cruelty of strangers,
 Into the neon dream..." (The Sisters of Mercy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Print Panel problem or is it texview
Summary: texview bug perhaps?
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:53:54 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus

I have been using texview alpha 5 and 6 and am having problems
printing with the through the printpanel.

Printing works fine, but then the busy cursor (sorry don't know the name for it) just spins and spins.

I have two set of defaults one for 5 and one for 6 could this be a problem.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Re: original NeXT boxes
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 06:02:24 GMT

Ronald C.F. Antony writes
> I need to ship some NeXT overseas, however the original NeXT boxes are
> in quite bad shape.
> If anyone has his boxes and does not need them anymore, I'd be
> interested in getting them. (BTY: I'm looking for boxes for NeXTcube
> and MegaPixelDisplay).

You can buy boxes from NeXT.

-- 
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan)
Subject: Re: Interesting Tibits - Microsoft & NeXT?
Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd.
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 22:07:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.153940.12958@newshost.lanl.gov> tms@twins.lanl.gov writes:
>Did NeXT just close a 950,000 machine sale that we aren't aware of?  :-)

Yeah.  Each uSoft employee will have two to three NeXTs on their desk.

-- 
Sean Eric Fagan  | "One form to rule them all, one form to find them, one
sef@kithrup.COM  |  form to bring them all and in the darkness rewrite the
-----------------+  hell out of them" -- sendmail ruleset 3 comment from DEC.
Any opinions expressed are my own, and generally unpopular with others.
From: flog@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: Re: 21" or 17" colour monitor ?
Reply-To: flog@open.ch
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:39:18 GMT

Dave Britton writes
> Is the 21 inch colour monitor really worth paying twice
> the price of the 17 inch one ? 
> I would be glad to hear any comments from those people
> who have taken the plunge and paid for the big screen.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> (There didn't appear to be anything in the FAQ about
>  this, to my suprise.)

Hi. 

The 21" is really better, but both NeXT color displays are pretty washed out  
and everything else than sharp. NeXT really needs to do something about it. 3.0  
comes with calibrated color nobody will be able to see it. 

If you're not too lazy to open a black paintcan you might want to consider  
getting a Sony Trinitron or now even better one of the NEC FG series. Both are  
at least 300% better in color, sharpness and accuracy. Pricing on these devices  
is LOW. Check out MacWorld for good pricing. I think the 17" NEC goes for under  
2K$. The NeXT 21" lists for OVER 5300 $US in Switzerland.

Who else played with third party monitors ??

-Florian

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: Re: Files in my home directory, and other ruminations
Reply-To: jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca
Organization: The Wordcraft Group - Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:26:26 GMT

In article <sadbkINNsn9@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu  
(Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> In article <CNH5730.92Apr12170622@calvin.tamu.edu>
> cnh5730@calvin.tamu.edu (Charles N. Herrick) writes:
> 
> > What happened to the *.app approach? You hide your files in the
> > directory which appears as *.app in your file viewer.
> > 
> > Isn't this sufficient?
> 
> 
> We are talking about where to store files for *each user*.
> Obviously, storing crud for 50 users who might share a particular app
> into the *.app is a bad idea.
> *.app is there to hold files that do not change over time and those
> shared by all users.
> ...

Ditto! I will personally flay the first developer who decides to put all  
that crap in the *.app wrapper. :-)

There are many meticulous system administrator like myself who put  
applications on a smaller hard drives or partitions that are mounted  
network wide and are often read-only to everyone except root. We don't  
like anyone writing to the hard drive(s) or partition(s) in question and  
those filesystems don't have much room to begin with.

While we're bitching ...

I am quite annoyed by application software that keep their sample files,  
demo files, and other non-directly related stuff in the *.app wrapper  
which are almost always kept in /LocalApps residing on the aforementioned  
filesystem. For consistency sake, why not keep them in the  
/LocalLibrary/Documentation/... folders? Besides the application  
executables and configuration files, help files should be the only other  
files allowed to reside in the wrapper.

The guilty developers know who they are! :-)

Back to the original complaint about stray files in home folders, I prefer  
the ~/Library/<application_name> approach. It is clean and easy to manage  
and far enough out of the way of the home folders that the (expert) users  
don't have to see it all the time.

Joe
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|         +1-604-879-6830 phone ** +1-604-879-9687 fax         |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: new call for votes
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:01:34 GMT

Since the vote for comp.sys.next.richposts did not
"technically" pass, even though there was a clear
majority in favor, I propose simplifying the next vote by
focusing the usage of such a group to the most appropriate
needs.

Since Jack Reynolds has just joined Glenn Reid at
RightBrain as VP of sales, the obvious new newsgroup
would be "comp.sys.next.rightbrain.rtf", which I'm
sure would come out in every monthly top-ten USENET
volume listing, second only to the SEF email bounces
of the same posts.

;-)

"It's a joke, son."

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 00:01:51 -0400 
From: Luis J Mendez <lm2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Survey

	Sorry for the waste of bandwidth...
	My name is Luis Mendez, student  at the Information Networking
Institute at Carnegie Mellon and I am working on a survey for an
Industrial Administration course.  The purpose of the survey is to
collect information regarding the characteristics that industrial
customers look for in a firm from which they plan to buy a product or
service and how those characteristics affect the selection process.  As
area of study, I have chosen computer hardware firms.  It is of my
interest to learn what characteristics are considered by corporations
when deciding from which firm it is desirable to buy computer hardware. 
If any of this netnews' readers is related to hardware purchasing at any
company and would like to participate on this survey, please send me an
email with a fax number where I can reach you, and I will fax you back
the questions and all the information concerning the survey.  Any help
you can bring me  will be really appreciated.  Copies of the team's
final report will be available upon request.  Thanks for your help.

	Luis Mendez
	lm2k@andrew.cmu.edu
From: koelman@cuby.stc.nl (Ton Koelman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 486 should cost $250
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:00:23 GMT
Reply-To: koelman@stc.nl
Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL

In article <1992Apr9.180629.16018@cs.yale.edu>  
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> In article <3526@rosie.NeXT.COM> Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer)  
writes:
> 
> > As has been said before in this newsgroup, if you look at
> > all the stuff that   NeXT sells to EVERY NeXTStep user, a
> > comparible package for ANY other computer   would run well
> > over $5,000.  I'm of the impression that the price we've
> > set is   extremely cheap for what you get. 
> 
> While philosophically true, the above doesn't count for beans
> toward the success of NeXTstep 486 if customers refuse to pay
> the $995 asking price.
> 

People always quote the $995 for NeXTStep/486 but what's
the price of the Developer's Release?

--
Ton Koelman   e-mail: koelman@stc.nl  (NeXT Mail Welcome!)
SHAPE Technical Centre, P.O. Box 174, 2501 CD  The Hague
The Netherlands  (voice: 31-70-3142429, fax: 31-70-3142111)