From: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: The Nature of Democracy (8)
Date: 19 Dec 92 05:43:44 GMT
Reply-To: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au
Followup-To: soc.culture.china

In <RPT=aG#@engin.umich.edu> chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen) writes:

:In the articles "The Nature of Democracy (4-7)", we have
:analysed the true purpose of British government in Hong
:Kong. It is a common understanding that British government
:wants to grab as much money as they can before they leave
:Hong Kong permanently. The British running dog, Can Lin,
:has to accept the fact although he claimed that it is justified
:to give Hong Kong people's money to British companies 
:because Hong Kong is a colony of Britain.

Please try to get your English right.

:British colony government repeatly sings a sweet song. They
	 ^^^^^^

It is colonial, not colony.  Direct translation of your
employer's words don't always give the best result.

:say they stands for the future of Hong Kong. Some of Hong
:Kong people were deeply moved by the sweet song and falled
						     ^^^^^^
fell

:into sleep when British colony government steals their money
:back to Britain. However, in a real world, we should not
:judge a person from what he says. The most important
:for us to judge a person is what he does. The behaviour of 
:British colony government has shown they do not stand for
:Hong Kong's future. They only interest in Hong Kong people's 
:money.

:Chinese government does not sing a sweet song like
:Britain colony government. Chinese government has told in
:a plain language that China will not be responsible for
:any debt left for the airport project. China will not allow
:a government in Hong Kong to serve for foreign interests
:and against Chinese government for the national interest of
:China. Surely, this does not sound sweet like British 
:government. But it is a plain fact and all of government
:will act in the same on behalf of their country. United
:States government will clearly not allow Michigan government
:to serve for the foreign interests. It is the responsibility
:of Hong Kong people to find who share the most common 
:interest with Hong Kong.

Are you sure that the Chinese government is acting in the
interest of the China ?  If that's the case then you are also
saying that the Chinese government is acting in the interest of
the Chinese people and therefore also the people of Hongkong.

I am sorry, I have to disagree with you.  A government that cares
for her people does not:

1. Use intimidation to threaten her people.  As we have all seen
in the last two months, the Chinese government have through
various channels attempted to destory the confidence of the
people of Hongkong.  I ask you truly from your conscience: would
any government that cares for her people would do such a thing ?

2. Kill her own people so as to stay in power.  I won't bother
saying when and where the Chinese government has killed her own
people, but you all remember 6.4.  Need I say more ?

3. Establish herself as above the law of the land and above the
constitution.  In the Joint Declaration the Chinese government
and the British government have clearly agreed to give democracy
to Hongkong.  The Joint Declaration is a piece of legal document
that is binding to the signatories of the document.  By refusing
to allow democratic reforms in Hongkong the Chinese government is
breaking her own laws.  And there are cases where people are
detained without trials for periods longer than allowed by
Chinese laws.  Shall I go on ?

In summary, the Chinese government or more correctly the Chinese
Communist Party does not care for China or her people.  The CCP
is the one who want money to line her pockets.  The current
Chinese government is ***UNFIT*** to rule the Chinese people
little known Hongkong.  

:In the following, I intend to analyse the common interest
:between China and Hong Kong in the following areas: history,
:geography, economy, politics.  

I am sick to death of your pathetic attempts at promoting those
CCP gangsters.  If you are going to feed this lies to us could you
kindly ask your CCP masters to pay for newspapers ads rather than
wasting internet bandwidth.  I am sure the University of Michigan
does not like wasting money on CCP propaganda.

:4. Politics

:A British running dog wants China to break like 
:Soviet Union and fall into a civil war as shown
:in his article so call "Warning to CCP running
:dogs". Is this the interest of Hong Kong people? 

:Imagine China is in a civil war. What can Hong Kong
:people can get? 

You amazes me again and again with dumbest of comments.  For the
benefits of the rest of this group.  Could you tell me how my
comments could bring about civil war in China ?

:Fortunately, this will not happen. Deng Xiao Ping made
:a brave move in 1989 and firmly cracked down the threat
:to China. Like many of Chinese students, I demostrated
:in London in 1989 and shouted:"Down with Deng Xiao Ping."
:However, after I see what happened in Soviet Union and
:Eastern Europe, I know I was wrong. Deng Xiao Ping won
:my highest respect and my trust.

Why, because he is so good at killing his own people ?

:Today, China is enjoying the highest economic growth rate
:in the world. Many countries want to take part in the 
:economic booming of China and share the profit. As the 
:common interest of China and Hong Kong, Chinese government
:has given many privileges to Hong Kong business instead of
:foreign business.

Oh really, you obviously haven't trying doing business from
Hongkong to China.  Try it one day and see how many people you
have to bribe and how many red tapes you have to go through
before telling me the Chinese government give privileges to HK
businessmen. 

:This article is tooooo long. I have to stop and will continue
:in my next article.

Please send your articles somewhere else.  The signal to noise
ratio in this group would vastly improve.
--
Anthony Lee (Time Lord Doctor) (These are my opinions !)
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