HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Need info on X and Nitrate
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:23:10 GMT

The book "Ecstasy: the MDMA Story" by Bruce Eisner will tell you nearly
all that is currently known about X including subjective effects, use
in therapy, toxicity, history, etc.  Great book.  Virtually sold out
in the S.F. Bay Area and back ordered in local warehouses a couple
of weeks ago.  Hmmm.  Also seems that X is nearly sold out in the same
area dammit.  :-)

I don't know much about poppers, used them in the 70's a little and they
have a nice short little buzz when you inhale the vapors from a piece of
cotton but nothing I would write home to mom about nor much care to do
again.

Bob
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From: trailmix@cs.montana.edu (Foster)
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:40:26 GMT

The first time I EVER dropped A, I watched "A Fish Called
Wanda"-couldn't figure out for the life of me what the hell
was going on!  Quite a confusing experience.
-- 

Slade Foster   Montana State Univ.   trailmix@fubar.cs.montana.edu 
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From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (infini-t)
Subject: Acid & Dentist's Offices
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:00:43 GMT


I was just wondering if there was any substance or chemical one might
find in a dentist's office that would increase traditional trip
after-effects like trails or those thingys in your eyes, etc.  

(Oh, BTW, I mean something *other* than the stress one can assume in
visiting the dentist's office...especially when you have 2
cavities...=)

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From: twiggs_te@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Ephadrine
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:24:39 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

tsjenki@eos.ncsu.edu (TIMOTHY SCOTT JENKINS) writes:
> 
> 
> 	I seem to be kind of confused as to what Ephadrine
> is.  As with all student I occasionally feel the need to 
> stay alert long into the night, so I looked around and
> found that ephadrine is sometimes considered a caffiene
> subsitute BUT it's mostly listed for sale as  a broncial
> relief.  Which is it? or is it both???
> 
> Side note:
> 	the mail order sells them as
> 		Ephadrine HCL 25  [tablets]
> 		                  (white cross, thick, thin, pink hearts)
> 		Ephadrine sulfate 24  [capsules]
> 		Ephadra           [tablets]  
> 
> 	is there any diference between these besides looks?



First of all, it's spelled 'ephedrine'.  I know that ephedrine HCL is
a bronchidialator for mild asthma.  It will keep you awake, also, since
it increases the increases the heart rate.  Many stupid people use it as
speed.  I don't know about the others.
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From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Flashback from hell - comments?
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:29:54 GMT

ipierago@fenris.claremont.edu (Ian Pierago) writes:
>I'm posting it here for several reasons.  First, it's a really interesting
>(although scarey story).  Second, I'd like to know if anyone else has had
>this sort of intense flashback.  Is this type of flashback common for people
>with a particular psycological problem?  Should he seek professional help?
>I have never heard of anyone else having such an incredibly tramatic flashback
>and I always assumed that this type of story was an urban legend, so your
>comments will be appreciated.

I'd say this sounds like one hellish case of PTSD -- time to go visit
the psychiatrist...

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
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From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:59:03 GMT

delsanto@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>acid in nature, you see the true beauty of the surroundings even if you 
>are on delic drugs.  Someone suggested watching movies on Acid.  This 
>is probably the worst thing to do.  Walking around outside is much 
>more interesting than watching T.V..  Plus being outside makes the 
>trip so much better and you see much more colors and other objects 
>which makes the visual part of acid better.

Maybe the person doesn't like the visual part, but likes the head trip?

Your milage may vary.

Sounds like you might want to do candyflip (X+L) sometime and commune with
nature.  I've got a tip that its the ultimate tree-hugging experience. 

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
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From: djh@osc.edu (David Heisterberg)
Subject: Re: Brands of LSD
Organization: The Ohio Supercomputer Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:50:22 GMT

In article <ringo.721978350@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo) writes:
>Interesting. I'd never seen a microdot, though I had heard of them. I have
>had (though never taken) small tablets which I was told was mescaline. As
>I recall they were purple and pretty tiny. What does mescaline look like?

The effective dose of mescaline is a couple hundred milligrams.
A microdot's worth of mescaline wouldn't do anything.  It was
most likely LSD.
-- 
David J. Heisterberg (djh@osc.edu)       What men value is not rights
The Ohio Supercomputer Center            but privileges.
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From: lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay)
Subject: Re: coke..
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:18:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.231416.21811@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
> In article <oexMaJa00VotM8YWoI@andrew.cmu.edu> Haw Juin Lin <hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> >There have been many cases where people's noses were completely rotted
> >off, leaving no cartiledge<spelling??>, no skin, no flesh.
> 
> Oh, yeah?  References, please.
> 
> Not that I doubt your veracity, but I doubt your veracity.


When I was in high school, I worked for a biostats group at
Massachusetts General Hospital doing data base programming and file
organization of a study on panic attacks.  By coincidence, the group
at Mass general that was doing the panic attack study was also doing a
study on *extreme* cocaine use (I don't remember the exact amounts you
had to be using to qualify, and I have no experience with cocaine so I
can't make a guess, but I remember that it was some ridiculous amount
a day.)

Often when I went down to the clinic to pick up interviews and reports
from the panic attack people, I passed people who were participating
in the coaine use study, waiting for thier interviews.  Every once in
a while there would be a patient whose nose had collapsed entirely
into thier face.  And it was more than one; I asked the clinic nurse
about it, and she explained (with some disgust) that those were the
most extreme cocaine subjects.

I didn't stare so I can't say if all the skin was gone or not, but
these people most definitely had holes where thier noses should have
been.  Scared the shit out of me;  I still won't do cocaine to this
day (although just about every other drug is fair game.. :)



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From: dc@ais.org (David Daniels)
Subject: Re: Gravity Pipe?
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:22:03 GMT

Ahhh.. what a wonderfully wonderful device... 
I had one of those and loved it.... 
Made that (uh, ) SFT taste kinda funky, but it was definatley worth it... 
I had always called it a gravity bong also... If it is know as anything
else, oh well! :) 

Great thing about that bong is that you can get such huge hits quickly.. 


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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: HEMP PAPER! ORDER NOW! HERE'S HOW!
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:19:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

In <1992Nov21.053537.1520@leela.cs.orst.edu> mcbeeb@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Brian Mcbee) writes:
>I just noticed something in the latest Consumer Reports: "Trees used for paper
>are usually grown on tree farms for that purpose and are harvested at
>sustainable rates.  Virtually no paper comes from the logging of ancient,
>irreplacable forests."
>
>Now I know Consumer Reports isn't really a primary source on this, but I
>tend to trust them.  Comments anyone?

I would agree with you actually.

However, I would presume that hemp would grow fast enough and produce
enough biomass that it would be more than competetive with these tree
farms.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
 A person's acts in life are like meals, his thoughts and feelings like spices.
 Whoever puts salt on cherries or pours vinegar on sweets will fare poorly....
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From: jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Cherney)
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:51:11 GMT
Reply-To: jcherney@reed.edu

I almost forgot.. "The Song Remains the Same"!!!  The section in Dazed and Confused where  
Page gets out the violin bow is awe-inspiring!
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From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: DMSO as carrier?
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:16:49 GMT

In article <ASH.92Nov13091057@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.072510.27284@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>
>   >n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>   >: >: 
>   >: >: So what else is used in transderm patches, or is that it?
>   >: 
>   >: >Nicotine and dramamine are two that I know of. I expect there are
>   >: >others.
>   >: 
>   >: Nicotine and dramamine will carry other drugs through the skin?
>   >: I'd never read about that one.
>
>   >Sorry, I was not being very clear. They are two substances which
>   >are used on transdermal patches. I assume dmso is the carrier.
>
>   >Bill
>
>I was under the perhaps erroneous belief that Nicotine absorbs through
>the skin just fine on its own and doesn't need a carrier.
>
>
>-Alan Harder
> 
>These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!


  I was reading the literature that came with a Habitrol(tm)
patch my co-worker had, and the list of ingredients did not
include DMSO. This should answer your question.
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From: jon.taylor@uuserv.cc.utah.edu (JON M. TAYLOR)
Subject: What is Periactin?
Organization: The University of Utah
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:41:44 GMT

	Hi.  A friend of mine who has (from what I understand) some kind of 
obsessional disorder was in an institution some time back, and they gave her 
something called Periactin (sp?).  We are curious as to what exactly this 
stuff is.  Thanks for any help.

Jon Taylor  Jon.Taylor@m.cc.utah.edu
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From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: LSD...
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:33:54 GMT

vetter@mtu.edu (STEVEN J. VETTER) writes:
>  The way I understand it, acid is not detectable by the normal "piss test", 
>  or even a blood test.  Once your body processes LSD, which I understand 
>  it does quite quickly, it is stored in the fluid surrounding your spinal  
>  cord. I believe it would require a sample of that fluid, a test known as a 
>  "spinal tap", which is not a simple nor pleasant procedure.

Thats not quite accurate -- it is present in the bloodstream...  This has vague
undertones of the X & spinal fluid legend.... icky...
 
-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
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From: braindl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (David Brain)
Subject: Oh just great...
Organization: Aston University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:03:20 GMT

Woopee it's Europe against drugs week..or somthing like that, just thought you
all would like to know...

Personaly I'm off home to hide my coffee, vodka, paracetamol.....(-;


-- 
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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Poppers
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 02:42:54 GMT

In article <Qf3iCiu00WB68RxKUO@andrew.cmu.edu> sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Seth
Malcolm Redmore) writes:
>Hi Folks!
>
>I was under the impression that poppers were nitrites, not
>nitrates.
>
>Am I deluded?  Have I been lied to?  Am I just too tired of trying
>to stick a Rhodium in my ligand that I am hallucinating and
>dreaming all of this?
>
>--Seth


 Just be glad you're not playing with boranes... Wacky things... Yeah,
they're nitrites all right, but do you think the average rush huffing joe
would know the difference? Of course not! 

St. Anthony

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From: gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo)
Subject: MJ and Asthma?
Keywords: mj, asthma, steroids.
Organization: Twilight-Zone-Algorithms-Incorporated
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:02:05 GMT

greetings all, I have a small request which might make the life of a
FOAF much better.  Specifically, I have seen references and various
notes how good MJ smoke has a beneficial effect for people with Asthma.
(something to do with intra-aeolus dialation or some such).

Anyways, if anybody has any references, pointers, or even better
anything already on-line, I would appreciate your help.  See, the FOAF
is currently taking 4 different nasty synth-drugs (incl. steroids) for
the Asthma, and need some hard (or at least just printed) facts to
convince them to tell the synth-pushing doctor to bugger off.

Yes, I have checked the FAQ's, but my access to the info referenced
there is, shall we say, limited?  I will be able to access some better
libraries in about a month, but will only have a little bit of time in
which to do it.  So, even if you can only say "there was a report in
journal X called something like 'mj and asthma'", thats better than my
toatally blind start I have now!

--gaspo.

PS, I know mj smoke is good for asthma/bronchitis, but I need somebody
else's "profesional" statement of that.


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From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: "ex" smokers of MJ
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:11:36 GMT

Yeah, it tends to make me zone and get tired, and also makes me kind of
dysphoric.  I therefore don't tend to do it alot.  Its just my reaction
to MJ.

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
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From: hawleylm@apple.com (Lorin Hawley)
Subject: Re: An unreasonable request
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:02:40 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer
Followup-To: alt.drugs,alt.psychoactives

In article <1992Nov21.052433.17378@cltr.uq.OZ.AU>,
malcolm@lingua.cltr.uq.OZ.AU (Malcolm Gillies) wrote:
> 
> If any kind hearted individuals have any sertraline (Zoloft) or
> fluoxetine (Prozac) which they can spare, any chance or mailing some my
> way?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm

Huh? The antidepressant effects start happening after 1-3 weeks. This stuff
is expensive - besides, if you're looking for an antidepressant, you should
definitely talk to a physician first.

Lorin
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From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Subject: Re: acid and sickness
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 01:20:00 GMT

In article <BxzA04.I6t@acsu.buffalo.edu> v055rylr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amy Pascale) writes:
>
>
>hey, a question out there for anyone...
>
>	this weekend, two friends and i were tripping, and one of them got
>really sick. he equated it with being drunk, that it was as if his body was
>trying to "throw up" the acid, as it would throw up alcohol. although he had
>nothing in his stomach, he continued to have dry heaves and general naeusea
>for about an hour, maybe more. we've all done it quite a bit, and i have never
>heard or seen anyone else have this problem. also, no one else has gotten sick
>when tripping on this stuff. any ideas?

Obviously this occured near a full moon, when the strychnine universe
comes within several lightyears of ours.  

OR ELSE - he started feeling a little queasy in his stomache, and then,
since he was tripping, he paid lots of attention to this feeling, and it
got stronger and stronger, and he started reverse peristalsis
(=upchucking), which feels REALLY weird when you pay attention to it,
positively nauseating, in fact!  Etc. - a typical feedback effect, if
you'll pardon the pun.  

This has happened to various folks I know.  Some of the more uninhibited
folks here may enjoy describing what it can be like to go to the
bathroom while tripping.
From: ck041@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Currie)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Shroom advice needed...
Date: 20 Nov 1992 04:36:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


	Anytime my FOAF :) did 'shroons they NEVER puked.  OF course,
these were the small little maritime variety, not the big B.C. type.

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From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: Brands of LSD
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:58:26 GMT

In article <3122@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch) writes:
>
>sources, and thank you for setting me straight.  Just try not to be such
>a dicknose snob about it, if you will. =)
                                        ^
     Is that what a ascii dicknose looks like? Just curious!

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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Acid Music
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:48:58 GMT

The band Gong has a couple of releases that strike me as being the LSD
equivalent of "guided meditation"; ie. the lps "Angel's Egg" and "You"
are essentially a "trip guide" through exploring a lot of fantasy pixie
mythology that is a hilarious blend of zen, hippies & acid. Fun, crazy
spacey stuff with a "plot"; conceptual meta-programming tools disguised
as music. The band used to be sort of the european equivalent of the
Greatful Dead, playing concerts to huge festival crowds. IMHO they blow
away the dead, floyd and any others when it comes to "trippy space music".  

Funkadelic is a pretty interesting trip band - the early stuff is a blend
of proto-funk with hendrixy rock guitar. These guys were supposedly tripping
in the studios while recording their first four lps. Their third lp, "Free
Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow..." is definitley a journey into inner
space and worth a listen whether one is tripping or not. Same goes for the
Gong lps mentioned above. 


  - Malcolm
From: cpsa@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Stefan Aeberhard)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: "ex" smokers of MJ
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:00:32 GMT
Organization: James Cook University

In <1992Nov18.011939.22620@galois.mit.edu> jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes:

>In article <jah.722033314@mits> jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>>aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>>
>>> That's funny. Does the same thing to me. Always has. I could never
>>>understand the big deal made about it.
>>
>>   Perhaps it's all just a mass delusion? It does help with relieving tension
>>and combatting some forms of anxiety. It also sometimes makes the surroundings
>>seem a little more interesting and occasionally induces funny thoughts.
>>However, it is neither as demonic or glorious as it is often claimed to be.

	Perhaps life is all just a mass delusion ? And perhaps 
	MJ helps some to make their own `local/personal' delusions ?

	:-)	

>All a mass delusion?  No way.  Too many well-verified accounts of
>marijuana experiences verging on the hallucinatory for that... as I'm
>sure fellow netters will confirm.  

	Definitely.

-- 
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stefan@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au |  my phantasy, it glided around a corner."
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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Poppers
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 14:22:05 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <Qf3iCiu00WB68RxKUO@andrew.cmu.edu> Seth Malcolm Redmore <sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>I was under the impression that poppers were nitrites, not
>nitrates.
>
>Am I deluded?  Have I been lied to?  Am I just too tired of trying
>to stick a Rhodium in my ligand that I am hallucinating and
>dreaming all of this?

    I don't know.  If someone has told you that poppers are nitrates and
not nitrites, yes.  Could be.

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