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From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Emergency dismounts and hanging onto the reins
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:14:05 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 


I've always instinctively held onto the reins when tossed.  Of course, there's
been a few times when I just didn't get a chance to hold onto them but I
nearly always try to keep them.  I've always done lots of trail riding.  
I'd rather worry about pulling on the horse's mouth, than worry about my
horse taking off for home, across roads, and in front of cars.  

Sue
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: mary@cairo.watson.ibm.com (Mary McHugh)
Subject: Re: Racoons & dogs :-(
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:52:13 GMT
Reply-To: mchugh@watson.ibm.com (Mary McHugh)
Organization: IBM TJ Watson Home for Tired Hackers

In article <106429@netnews.upenn.edu>, barkdoll@lepomis.psych.upenn.edu
(Edwin Barkdoll) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan24.071208.6759@desire.wright.edu>
sbishop@desire.wright.edu writes:
|> >In article <106290@netnews.upenn.edu>,
barkdoll@lepomis.psych.upenn.edu (Edwin Barkdoll) writes:
|> 
|> [...]
|> 
|> >> 	And don't transport wildlife across state lines which is what
|> >> caused this problem in the first place!
|> >> 
|> >
|> >Huh?  Whose been transporting wildlife across state lines?  Funny, I
thought
|> >they made it across on their own.
|> 
|> 	Upon rereading my cryptic comment I can see the confusion.
|> Epidemiologists have argued that the midatlantic raccoon rabies
|> epizootic originated upon interstate transfer of rabid raccoons,
|> unintentionally of course, by hunting groups to populate hunting
|> stocks.  The source of the rabid raccoons has been argued to be the
|> southeastern epizootic -- that is in Florida, Georgia.

The other piece of information needed to clarify:

... until last year when we had our first rabies cases, Connecticut &
the New England area were relatively isolated from the rabies problem
because in order to get here, you have to cross water (i.e. The Hudson
River, et.al.) which always slows these things down.  Hence, the theory
that the rabid racoons must have been imported (I don't think most
racoons have the $0.75 needed to cross the Newburgh bridge ;^)
From: pallas@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Sarah Pallas)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re:  pinto vs. paints
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:50:35 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1993Jan21.192020.8936@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> pattee@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Donna Pattee) writes:
>
>There are two "unofficial" color designations for Paints, piebald and 
>skewbald.  One is black and white and the other is any color other than
>black with white.  I can never remember which is which.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that piebald is black and
white and skewbald is any other color but black with white.  I
remember this because I had a book as a kid about National Velvet,
whose horse was called "The Pie".  The picture on the front of the
book was a black and white pinto.

Sarah Pallas
From: Stovall@f88.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Stovall)
Sender: Jpunix@urchin.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: paddling
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:57:02 -0500

CP>...She paddles with her left front leg.
CP>Should I be concerned about this?

The best way to deal with your problem is to have a competent equine
veterinarian and a reputable farrier examine the mare before any money
changes hands. You'll get loads of knee-jerk advice, but the only
opinions worth a damn are those of the professonals who've examined the
mare.

Peace in our time,

Tom Stovall
AFA Journeyman Farrier
___
 X SLMR 2.1a X Katy, Texas: ducks, geese and humongus mosquitos.

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From: esposito-nancy@cs.yale.edu (Nancy Esposito)
Subject: Re: Riding breeches - need advice.
Originator: esposito@deimos.CS.Yale.Edu
Reply-To: esposito@sca.com (Nancy Esposito)
Organization: Yale University, Dept. of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:44:27 GMT


My favorite pair of riding pants are "Patagonia".  They were a Christmas gift
from one of my riding buddies, a year ago.  They're extremely comfortable,
and so far have stood up very well.  They have an ultra-suede knee patch,
and wash up great in a washing machine.  I hang them to dry.
They kind of remind me of leggings, as they have a wide waist band--no
zipper opening, and comfortable wide elastic at the ankle which keeps them
from riding up my leg.

I'm almost 5'9'', and find the legs to be nice and long.  The only problem
I have is that they're not snug enough at my waist.  But I use an elasticized
belt to solve that problem.

They were really nice & cool in the summer, and long underware easily fits
under them for the winter.  They're definitely the most comfortable,
nonbinding riding pants I've worn.

My friend bought them at the Patagonia store, which is a sports outfitters,
in Mass.  I think they have a mail order catalog.  You may not find them at
a tack store; I never have.  I'm not sure how much they cost.

Nancy Esposito
 & Personality Plus
From: re_sims@vax.cns.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: nickering
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:11:46 -0500
Organization: Muskingum College

This is obviously my first time to post but here goes.
My horse has been stabled for several weeks due to bad weather and
because of this she has become somewhat barn sour. I can ride her alone
ok but if I ride with another person my mare goes into nickering fits
every time they are separated. Does anyone have any suggestions how 
I can correct this? I am afraid this will get out of hand if I don't
nip it in the bud but it is a problem I've never had before. 

thanks

Becky (muck queen) and Tasha (muck maker)


Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: A1.MHH@isumvs.iastate.edu (Mary Healey)
Subject: RE: Keeping warm
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:03:56 GMT

(I tried to mail Colleen directly, but it bounced)

In article <C19yzF.EKw@spk.hp.com>,
cicarell@spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell) writes:
>
>I am wondering what you do to stay warm in cold weather.  I was riding in
><10F a couple of weeks ago, and it was DANG cold.  I'm looking for some
>good ideas (other than stay inside, I got bit by the horse bug and staying
>inside worsens the symptoms.)
>
>Colleen Cicarelli
>Hewlett-Packard
>Spokane, Washington, USA

Colleen -
     Keep moving!!!  The surest way to stay warm is to keep moving,
wear LOTS of light layers (when I ride, I can usually strip off at
least three shirts/sweaters/long underwear!), and don't cut off the
circulation to your feet or hands.  Wear two pairs of socks, but
only if you can wiggle your toes in your shoes.  Extra layers of
socks do no good if you feet get no blood!
     I assume you have an indoor arena, or relatively unwindy place
to ride in.  Our indoor arena is (I think) 50x50, so we can't even
practice 20 m dressage circles until spring.  But ride, and if you
get cold doing that, muck a few stalls.  Seriously, toss a few lumps
and you'll warm up fast.  As a last resort, for cold feet, go stand
on the manure pile.  The heat from the composting action will toast
your toes!  Gross, and usually unnecessary, but it works.

Mary & Regis
From: A20BAF1%NIU.bitnet@uicvm.uic.edu (Bernadette Feyerharm)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Hi Audrey
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:05:05 GMT
Reply-To: equestrians@world.std.com
Organization: BBN news/mail gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.bbn.com

Audrey,
  Hi.  My name is Bernadette Feyerharm and I live in DeKalb IL.
I was reading the digest from rec.equestrian (I am on Equine-l and
can't receive or post to rec.equestrian) and came accross your post.
Do you keep your horses at Lamplight??  My horse is in Malta IL and
is about 45 minutes away from there.  I would be interested in going
on a trail ride sometime this summer.  Just let me know!
  You also had a question about Pinto vs Paint.  Well I like to
answer that by saying that my horse is registered Pinto because she
has spots and Paint because she is a quarter horse that has spots.
Pinto is a color registry.  Any horse with spots (except Appys) can
be registered as a Pinto.  However only certain breeds can be
registered as Paints.  Any Paint is a Pinto but not every Pinto is a
Paint!  I believe only warmbloods and quarter horses that have Pinto
markings may be registered as Paints but I am not entirely sure on
that one!  If you have any more questions, I will be happy to try to
answer them.
  Oh, BTW, I ride dressage and have done a bit of saddleseat, a bit
more western and still a bit more huntseat riding in the past.  I
have done primarily dressage for the last 7 years.  I also worked
for a time at Tempel Lipizzans in Wadsworth.
Anyway, I had better get back to work!  Take care and I look
forward to hearing from you.
What is your email address so I can send mail privately?

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From: china@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: What happened about problem stallion?
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:00:01 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

A few weeks ago a lady posted a request for advice regarding her stallion
that had become very difficult to manage. She kept it at a atable and even
the stable staff were reluctant to handle it. I think it was rearing and
wouldn't lead properly. I remember there was a lot advice about having the
horse gelded and sending it to professional trainer.

I was just wondering what happened. If that lady still reads the net would
she like to post  what she decided to do and what progress she has made with
her stallion. I'm sure others would be interested considering the amount
of response the problem received on the net.

- Ross
From: ms0t@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW CHRISTIAN SZAP)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Laminitis and founder
Date: 21 Jan 93 02:28:41 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


To equestrian community:  I am currently studying the
  structure of horses' hooves.  The study is part of my
  training as a graduate student in biochemistry.  One goal
  of the study is to shed light on the well-known disease
  of the hoof-- laminitis.  Laminitis is basically a disturbance
  of blood flow to the hoof and may have an effect on its chemical
  structure.
I have plenty of samples of NON-DISEASED hoof
  trimmings by blacksmith or farrier.  I need samples cut from
  a DISEASED hoof-- those from a horse afflicted with full-blown
  laminitis, mild laminitis, or even from a horse that has
  foundered from possibly laminitis.  This study is important
  and I need samples from diseased hooves for its continuation.
  If you have an afflicted horse and would be willing to send
  me some samples from any types of horses, or, if you could
  provied the name of an owner of an afflicted horse,
  I'd be most grateful.
I can provide more details of the study if you need them.
  Compensation for shipping will, of course, be provided.
  Please respond to me through e-mail.  Your help in this
  matter is crucial to our understanding of the disease.

                      thank you,  Matt Szap
                                  Lehigh University
                                  Bethlehem, Pa.

                                  
-- 

mcszap/ms0t     :)
Mudd 648
83481
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: contact on longe and longreining (was Re: longework)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 23:50:03 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Ruth Vale (rmvale@watnow.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
[stuff deleted]
: I moved from an eggbut snaffle, to a
: rubber full check jointed and eventually, and most successfully to a rubber
: bar bit (but you can't do dressage in the latter). 
[more stuff deleled]

You can use a rubber covered mullen mouth snaffle though. 

Karen
From: pallas@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Sarah Pallas)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Hage Address
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:44:46 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1993Jan25.161546.17242@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> teresa@astro.as.arizona.edu (Teresa Bippert-Plymate) writes:
>Hi All-
>
>   Here's the address off the ChaffHage bag like I promised:

There was a new bag of Hage sitting in the aisle at our barn yesterday.
If the address Teresa supplied doesn't work, let me know and I will
track down the source.  I think one of the boarders bought it.

Sarah Pallas
From: pallas@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Sarah Pallas)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re:  Humane Society donations
Keywords: animal rights, breeding, rodeo
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:32:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu

A couple of clarifications on my post about the Humane Society of
Utah.
1.  The source of the information is a wire report from the Associated
Press.  It was an interview with Craig Cook, president of the board of
the Humane Society of Utah, and Gene Baierschmidt, Executive Director.
If anyone is really dying to have a copy of the original article, I
will send it if you send me an SASE.  First 15 people only.

2.  State Humane societies can be completely independent of national
organizations and may make whatever policy decisions they like.  Thus,
as has been pointed out on this net before, you can't judge one state
chapter by the actions of another, nor can you judge the national
organizations on the basis of what the Utah organization does.
Although they quote Gene Baierschmidt as saying that animal protection
groups across the country are taking such steps (checks of the beliefs
of their employees and their families regarding animal rights).
From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Rolex, anyone?
Date: 21 Jan 93 06:32:32 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 


HOw many of the group are going to the Rolex?  Wanna try a get-together this
year?  We tried last year, using the green ribbon on the coat, but that didn't
work.  Since there seems to be a group member who lives in the Lexington area,
(sorry, but I forget who) maybe that person could recommend a nice family
watering hole type tavern or bar where we could have a get-together either
Friday or Saturday night.  It would be wonderful to meet everyone.

Sue
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: happonen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: RE:bio
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:24:32 GMT

hello and greetings from Finland!

I'm  R&D engineer doing software developing to switching system in Nokia
Telecommunications.

Yes I am horsemad  like all of you.  I am also very proud 
owner of half-breed Dutch mare ( 5yo) Merry Frances.  She has
very special character ( meaning pig-headed sometimes) and
I  really have a very intresting project trying to make from her
a good showjumper. I have started with her about 1/2 year ago
and I have been truly in" heaven" and in "hell" with her.
I keep her at a stable because they have  a big hall
where you can ride inside  regardless the wheather outside,
which is very useful because  of the long winter time. 
Of course I ride English style but I must say that when I have read
yours storys here in net I have tried to imagine 
how it would manage here in Finland to ride Western
( I really don't even know what it excatly is...)
 in field and woods coverd with snow....:-)

I have followed this group about 1 year now and it seems to me
that I defenitely will not stop.

Miss Sirpa Happonen
From: tjl@aiai.uucp (Terri Lydiard)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Reader Bio
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:53:02 GMT
Reply-To: tjl@aiai.uucp (Terri Lydiard)
Organization: AIAI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

I'm Terri Lydiard and I'm 33. I'm from the North West of England
(Chester) and moved to Linlithgow in Scotland when I married. I work
for AI Applications Institute at Edinburgh University in a teaching
and consultancy capacity.  

I have been riding for 5 or 6 years at a variety of stables around
central Scotland and am totally addicted.  I had a wee break from
riding last year as I was pregnant but got back into the saddle as
soon as I could fit in my jodhpurs after Ruairidh (pronounced Rory)
was born. I have been attending evening classes at Oatridge
agricultural college for my British Horse Society Stage 1 exam which
is next week. I don't know if I'll pass or not because I haven't got a
tremendous amount of experience of being around and handling horses.
Still doing the course has given me the opportunity to ride their
horses which are infinately better than any other place I've been. I'm
hoping to go back to cross-country jumping classes at Tower Farm in
Edinburgh in the summer, weather and baby permitting. I did a couple
of competitions there before baby and won a rosette or two.

Husband Iain rides as well, Ruairidh has a rocking horse but at 6
months old he is not making full use of it yet. We don't have horses
........yet. My short-term aims in life are to go cross-country riding
in Ireland and to complete the trans-Scotland ride. I'm saving up for
these! 

I like to see postings from Europe on rec.equestrian so keep it up all
of you. I would post more often if only I had something to say....


Terri
Terri J. Lydiard, AI Applications Institute, University of Edinburgh,
80 South Bridge, Edinburgh EH1 1HN, Scotland
Email tjl@uk.ac.ed.aiai, phone 031-650-2757 
Arpanet: T.Lydiard%uk.ac.ed@nfsnet-relay.ac.uk
From: steve.king@idcbbs.com (Steve King) 
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Re: western saddles
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: IDC BBS - Alameda, CA - 510-865-7115
Reply-To: steve.king@idcbbs.com (Steve King) 

To: twv@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Terry Von Gease)

TV | I have 2 Fallis saddles that I bought new about 12 or so years ago.
TV | They have a flat seat and the stirrups are hung more forward than on
TV | conventional western saddles.  Where a conventional western saddle
TV | drives you back into the cantle, the flat seat of the Fallis promotes a
TV | sound forward seat.  Hence the name 'Balanced Ride'.  The rigging is a
TV | really neat 3 point setup that prevents building up many layers of
TV | latigo under your leg.  Once you get used to these saddles, a
TV | conventional western saddle with a built-up seat feels like something
TV | from hell.  The saddle was originally designed by Monte Foreman,
TV | legendary western horseman, trainer, and teacher.

Monte Foreman designed his Balanced Ride saddle to mimic the seat of a 
dressage saddle.  I vaguely remember hearing him speak at a clinic years 
ago and recall him saying he used an old military model dressage saddle 
as a model.  I also recall that the stirrups are hung more to the rear 
than on a regular Western saddle, to help avoid "water-ski" leg 
positioning.  I was fortunate to have been able to try one at his clinic 
and found it very comfortable, although I'll stick with my Stubben, 
thank you.  I also remember that Tex-Tan made a licensed inexpensive 
imitation of the Fallis for a few years.

steve.king@idcbbs.com (Steve King)
---
 . KingQWK 1.05 # 93 .
From: D5.F72@forsythe.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: ROLEX info
Date: 21 Jan 1993 14:23:26 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1993Jan17.161239.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>,
dmhowe01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>> The weather in Kentucky in late April can be a little unpredictable.
>
>As if it's at all predictable, ever!  ;>
>
>> Average high temp would be in the 60's, with low in the 40's, and a good
>> chance for rain. On Thursday before that weekend, I'll post what the
>> local weather folks are predicting for that weekend, with a disclaimer
>> that local forecasts can change between Thursday and Saturday.
>
>Local forecasts can change between today and tomorrow, who are you kidding?
>
>Sorry, as a native Kentuckian, I just had to jump in!
>
As a Rolex attendee last year, _I_ had to jump in!!
On Friday, it was so hot & sunny (80) that we wore shorts and had
to buy hats for sun protection.  By Saturday night, they were
forcasting snow, and it was about 38 when stadium jumping started
Sunday morning!!  (Jees, that's almost as bad as Ann Arbor - where
the motto used to be "If you don't like the weather...just wait a
minute, it'll change!!)

Gary
(use gary@cardiology don't just reply!)
From: PROCTOR@lexvm2.vnet.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Calling Gale Snow
Date: 23 Jan 1993 21:53:04 -0500
Organization: BBN news/mail gateway
Reply-To: equestrians@world.std.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.bbn.com

Sorry I can't post this directly - don't even know if this will reach
Equestrians. Gale, I read your bio. If you " have been following this
newsgroup for at least six years ", did you read the HORSE DIGEST post
by S. E. CREGIER, Subject: MS, steroidal use, and food, Date: Friday
, 16 Nov 90, X-Digest: Equestrian Digest Issue 33 (item 5).

If not, I have hardcopy and could mail to you if you post your mailing
address - it's too long for me to type. If you did see it, can you
comment on it?
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: sabine@stuttgy9.Germany.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Help: leg/chin sore
Keywords: sore leg Trakehner help
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:59:40 GMT
Reply-To: sabine@stuttgy9.Germany.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Greetings,

I have a 4 year old Trakehner mare who has had an
ailment for the past three weeks that has not seemed
to have improved. The description of the problem is as
follows:
	Three weeks ago I noticed that She had a small
knot on the left leg on the chin area that
resembled a clot of sorts....She is not lame on this
leg and it doesn't not seem to cause her pain. My
Vet said it does not seem to be the tendon and he has
tried a couple of cremes to reduce the swelling and
cure it.  The clot is the size of a walnut at this time
and as a result I have had to keep here in the stable
and take her for short walks on hard surfaces.

If you have had any experience with this type of ailment
or know of any natural cremes or remedies for curing this
I would greatly appreciate it.

Sabine
------------
sabine@sunstgt.germany.sun.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 12:14:13 EST
From: <DBEAM@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: 1996 Olympics

Is it too early to start getting tickets, reservations for the Olympics
in Atlanta?  If not how do you go about getting them?  Would most travel
agents have the scoop?
Thanks for any input.
Diana & the herd (who are not going to the Olympics no matter how much they
beg!)
From: barkdoll@lepomis.psych.upenn.edu (Edwin Barkdoll)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Racoons & dogs :-(
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:02:31 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan24.071208.6759@desire.wright.edu> sbishop@desire.wright.edu writes:
>In article <106290@netnews.upenn.edu>, barkdoll@lepomis.psych.upenn.edu (Edwin Barkdoll) writes:

[...]

>> 	And don't transport wildlife across state lines which is what
>> caused this problem in the first place!
>> 
>
>Huh?  Whose been transporting wildlife across state lines?  Funny, I thought
>they made it across on their own.

	Upon rereading my cryptic comment I can see the confusion.
Epidemiologists have argued that the midatlantic raccoon rabies
epizootic originated upon interstate transfer of rabid raccoons,
unintentionally of course, by hunting groups to populate hunting
stocks.  The source of the rabid raccoons has been argued to be the
southeastern epizootic -- that is in Florida, Georgia...

-- 
Edwin Barkdoll
barkdoll@lepomis.cattell.psych.upenn.edu
eb3@world.std.com
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