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From: lindy@sea1.larc.nasa.gov (Lindy A. Fleck)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: "OH NO!!!!!"
Date: 12 Nov 1992 21:20:05 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sea1.larc.nasa.gov

Puppy:  Chewing & Destructive
Owner:  "Oh, I can't possibly put my baby in a CAGE!!!"

Yep, sounds familiar.  I was single, just buying my first
home, and HAD to have a Golden Retriever puppy.   Fortunately,
I could come home for lunch & take care of the furry little
sweetheart!  The breeder did her best to convince me to use
a crate...even offered to loan me one of hers for a few months.
But no, I couldn't even CONSIDER that!

I kept her confined to the kitchen (about 10x20') using
baby gates (2 high--she could jump one).  Let's see...she 
chewed through the rungs on my kitchen chairs, chewed up the
vinyl blinds on the sliding glass door in the kitchen, chewed
up the baseboards on every outside corner, stole cookies off 
the counter (they were covered with powered sugar--her white
grin was hilarious!).  She even managed to tear a huge hole in 
the linoleum!  And that was on the day I was having the builder
come in to see the paint splatter all over the floor that would
not come up (I picked up the big throw rug to show him the hole
AFTER he agreed that the floor should be replaced.  Whew!)

One day I came home to find one of the bottom baby gates gone. 
The house was a mess...shoes, clothes, socks, magazines, sofa cushions
everywhere.  Every dried flower arrangement was nothing but petal dust on
the carpet. I was afraid to look upstairs...and where was my dog?  
Thump....thump...thump....All I could see at the top of the stairs was
a face with these BIG, innocent brown eyes.  After she pulled the
tornado job on the house, she had curled up on my bed with one
of her own toys!  Took me several days to clean up and find everything.  
And I borrowed the crate that night!

Yep, she lived (9 years old next month) & still showing in obedience.
he's now V Kirkham Cunning Chelsea CDX, JH, WCX (CGC & TDI)
and I am a FIRM believer in crates and obedience training.  
(some of us just have to learn things the hard way....)


-- 
Lindy Fleck

(l.a.fleck@LaRC.nasa.gov)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca (scott weaver 9209 U)
Subject: Re: Story for someone who wants to say "OH NO!!!!!"
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:18:29 GMT
Keywords: uh oh

In article <1992Nov10.112626.10101@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> macaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (MACKINNELL AMANDA) writes:
>	He was gone for approximately 2 hours. On his return, not only had
>	the puppies locked the doors, and chewed the car seat covers
>	but they had EATEN the dashboard and literally destroyed it.
>
>	The steering wheel was down to the bare metal, the plastic of
>	the dash pulled off.. and the wiring pulled out....
>
>	If the puppies had hit one of the live wires it could have been r
>	eally nasty... but they survived the experience (so far).. 
>	but the car cost $2000 to repair.......
>
>
>	Anyone else got puppy-chewing horror stories I can console him
>	with????
>
>
>	Amanda J. MacKinnell 
>

Indeed I can...  Back between 1970 and 1980, we had a beagle mix (named Joe)
who had quite the chewing streak in him.  I was quite young at the time, but
I do remember him chewing through a metal airline cage, chewing through our
basement door into the kitchen, chewing many dashboards and other parts of a
car's interior (in several cars too, including a company-leased car!).  I'm
not sure my father has really forgiven him for this, even though Joe died 12
years ago.
Needless to say, we haven't had any more 'chewers' since then :-)
Hope this at least brings a smile to your friend's face.
-- 
Scott B. Weaver		Internet: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca
"Dream Weaver"		Bangs: ..!torn!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!mach1!sweaver3
Patience comes to 	Snail: 2C-264 Regina Street North
those who wait...	       Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2J 3B7
From: cmchui@pollux.usc.edu (Chung Man Chui)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog eating cat food.
Date: 12 Nov 92 08:57:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: pollux.1duuhdINNnus
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


I have a six month old female(?). She have all the markings of a GSD except
that she's only the size of a min pin. Anyways, she loves to eat the rabit
pellets that I give my rabit. Oddly enough, my rabit seems to enjoy eating
the dog food just as much. Any harm to either one of them?

								chung
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: How do you fight a race track?
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:10:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com

GSD>     Have any of you ever fought a dog track before?  Do you
GSD>have any suggestions?  I'm not going at this from the angle
GSD>of "Gambling is a sin" (I dare you to find a verse in the
GSD>Bible that indicates that), but I do think it's morally
GSD>wrong to abuse the dogs the way that they commonly are in
GSD>racing situations.  I'm sure you agree and I will appreciate
GSD>your responses and suggestions.

Where do you get your information that racing Greyhounds are abused?
I have a friend that has racing greyhounds, these dogs are pampered,
well fed(they are given a special diet that includes dry kibble, meat
and cottage cheese) and in excellent health. He pays top dollar for
these dogs and when he breeds the stud fees are in the range of $10 to
$15,000. You don't put out that kind of money to abuse a dog. Yes, you
willl have the occasional person that is crazy enough to abuse the dogs,
but they would be doing that anyway because they are crazy. But for the
most part the people that have these dogs, love them.
If you want to see what goes on, find a tour group, talk to the trainers
and the owners. You might just go away with a different oppinion.
There are several Greyhound Rescue Groups, talk to those people. They
would not be placing abused dogs. People that adopt these dogs are very
happy with the dog they are getting, if the dogs were abused they
would be a uproar from the new owners.

Kathleen Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening)
Subject: Let it snow!
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:24:59 GMT


Ah.....

Today it is snowing.  Not that anoying little freezing rain
kind of snow, but the angles letting down their hair and 
dancing kind of snow.  And my joy today...I got to escourt
a black bundle of honoriness (sp?) out into the white wonderland...
a bundle of energy that enjoyed that falling grace like no
eight-year-old can.  I am still in awe at the miracle called
Mother Nature and the responsibility she has granted me in my
charge, Beamer.  What joy...

Mike

(I'll never be able to concentrate in seminar today!)
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| mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu  parents, we are borrowing it from our    |
|		 	    children" -- Saw it on a shirt, author   |
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From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: EUTHANASIA: Winston
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:45:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.24104
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



Jon Krueger writes:
>> Biting is a response to incoherent authority

>Correct.  Within the limits of reference of "incoherent authority".

>Incoherent authority, however, is not the only cause of biting.

Even more correct: there isn't a cause of biting.  It's communication,
or a breakdown of communication.  What is the cause of divorce?
Same grammar.

If you don't think about it, if you think well yes there's a cause, but
what? then it's pretty easy to start examining the dog and you miss
the obvious.  And you examine oh so carefully!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Favorite names??? 
From: sgl@aeg.dsto.gov.au (Simon Langsford)
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:58:29 CST
Reply-To: sgl@aeg.dsto.gov.au
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: world
Organization: Aeronautical Research Laboratory

Hi all

A friend of mine just got a new dog (pitch black Jack Russell I think) 
and now must struggle to find a good name for him - just wondered if
people could send me 'favorite' dog names they have heard or used in 
the past - if there is enough interest I will post a list of 
responses. 

Thanks

Simon
Email : sgl@aeg.dsto.gov.au


Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: ab5y@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ann Bailey)
Subject: Puppy heart murmur ok/Need more advice
Followup-To: HELP! Need unemotional advice.
Originator: ab5y@palm.cs.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:41:12 GMT

Good news! Our puppy is going to be okay.  First I just want to thank
everyone for their support and advice.  It really helped us a lot.

We took our puppy back to the vet the following week.  He checked again
to be sure it was still there.  Plus we had another vet also look at it.
They were pretty sure it was not a valve problem but a hole in the lining
of the heart (sorry I don't know all the technical terms).  So we decided
to have a cardiologist exam her.  We just did that a few days ago.  He 
says it is the hole in the lining and this is sometimes a physiological thing
in puppys and not that uncommon and could go away in a few months.  We're
taking her back in a few months.  If it goes away great - if not then it's
still not severe (fatal).  She'll be a normal dog.  I think it's called
a septic murmur and we would have to do further testing.  So we're very
excited!!  

While I'm posting this I was wondering if I could get advice on her latest
problems (I'm probably worrying too much!).  She's chewing a lot these days
but isn't really destructive (of course we watch her like a hawk).  What I'm
finding disturbing is she bites us a lot.  We tell her No or No Teeth even
close her mouth and look her in the eyes.  She'll flip out  - growl a little
and attack the other foot or leg.  We try to distract her with a toy and that
lasts about 10 sec. and she's back trying to eat us.  The other weird thing
that I'm really worried about is these temper tantrums.  I think she's 
turning out to be a very agressive dog.  She seems to be defying us these
days.  I can't calm her down she just keeps biting as if in spite.  She also
was near a little kid and decided that he might be tasty too!  I am
going to get the book about raising puppies by the Monks of New Skete.  Does
this contain any helpful information?  

Thanks Again!
Ann Bailey
ab5y@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: khare@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Kathy Hare - DCS)
Subject: Promise Training collar
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:18:03 GMT

I was wondering if anyone has used the Promise training collar for their dog.
It is a collar that goes around the back of the head and around the muzzle.
It simulates the pressure of the mothers mouth on the back of the head and 
the pack leaders aroung the muzzle.
 
What I would like to know is has anyone successfully trained or retrained 
their dog with this collar.  I was given the collar by my vet for my Lhasa
to try and retrain him and get back control of him. He bit me in the face 
on the weekend causing 8 stiches to close the wound. He is at the vet right
now being nuetered. We really hope that nuetering and the collar will 
calm his aggression. It is bad enough he bit me but we can't have him 
biting someone else.
 
Thanks for any input
Kathy Mickle
From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Airline crate for sale
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:08:59 GMT
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

In article <Bx9tK8.KvI@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kahinkle@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Kelly
Anne Hinkle) writes:
>The price was $85, so I guess I'll ask about $75.  If you make me an offer
>that sounds reasonable, it's yours, though.  The price isn't set in stone.

Kelly: Is the crate plastic or wire or wood? Also, what are the dimensions? 
If a Varikennel, you can use their model numbers (200-700) to indicate size.
FYI, empty airline crates can
be shipped, UNBOXED, by UPS. I routinely return puppy shipping crates this
way, and am charged by weight...very cheap for an empty plastic crate. 
******************************************
Marget Johnson
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From: todd@refrig.dixie.com (Todd H.)
Subject: Re: question about hunting tests
Organization: the Bear Creek Tinkerer's Society and Social Club
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:19:19 GMT

CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:

>Not being a pointer person, I can't make judgements as to how different
>breeds normally work.

Not pertaining to AKC trials, but I do run in National Shoot-to-Retrieve
(NSTRA) trails with my Drahthaar.  The real 'winning' breeds in NSTRA are
the english pointers, and english setters.  The continental breeds, such
as mine, have a very different style - they tend to point with thier heads
DOWN, rather than up in the air like an english dog.  Also, with a short
tail, some judges don't think they look as good.

I once had a judge give my dog a 91 out of 100 points on a find, and he said:
"It's tough for me to give over a 90 to a short-tailed dog".  That comment
just blew me away, as it showed clearly the prejudice against a dog that
doesn't look like a setter/pointer.

The sad fact is that in all types of competition, no matter what the sport,
the judge is a human, and subject to his own personal preference.  The only
thing we can hope for is the more impartial people will volunteer for the
thankless job of judging dog trials.

-- 
Todd++;
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening)
Subject: Re: Vomiting and poisons WAS What foods shouldn't dogs eat.
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:42:28 GMT

In article <17409@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
>> Shari Bernhard writes:
>> As far as making a dog vomit, ALWAYS check with your vet first, but when
>> Raven swallowed a rubber ball, my vet had me give her a tablespoon of
>> peroxide.  It irritates the stomach lining and makes the dog throw up.
>> Which is what she did.  Up came the ball.  This worked on my dog in
>> that situation, but if a chemical substance is ingested, vomiting can
>> sometimes cause worse effects.  Same applies to humans.
>
>
>Actually, it isn't that difficult to tell whether or not a dog (or person)
>should be made to vomit, is it? If the substance is corrosive, bringing it
>back up will cause more damage as it passes through a second time. If it's
>not corrosive, you want the poison out as fast as possible. At least this is
>what I've heard. I've also heard that milk, and lots of it, can be a good
>thing to drink in the case of suspected poisoning, aparently it has some sort
>of neutralizing effect...anybody know?
>
You are correct in the corrosive part, but the question often arises as to
what things are corrosive and what aren't, especially in a panic situation.
I think milk is good for two reasons: 1) (as we chemists always say) dilution
is the solution and 2) milk seems to coat the lining of the stomach and
the throat which may help any immediate pain from the poision.  Otherwise
it would seem that if vomiting is not good then dilution with liquids or
a stomach pump would be in order.  
Mike




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| mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu  parents, we are borrowing it from our    |
|		 	    children" -- Saw it on a shirt, author   |
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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Gaseous GSD & Growth Charts
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:59:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bxo1yF.67p
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab


Hi again all!

Well, Siegfried is doing quite well. He's 34 lbs, 18 inches at the shoulders,
 and 15 weeks old! Anyone have a GSD growth curve so we can have fun
guessing how big he'll get?

But, Siegfried has a problem...a rather smelly one. He tends to be
rather gaseous, if you know what I mean. I've heard about the 
Bean-o and Cur-tail (or whatever it is called) but I'm wondering
if it's just a puppy thing that he'll grow out of? I know I could
change his food, but I'm not too keen on that as his stools are
good and his coat is VERY nice and shiny and he likes it! We feed
him puppy Nutro-Max (and he eats like a horse!). So, is it something
that puppies are just prone to do? I can't remember if Baeki had 
this problem when she was little (oh so many moons ago, well
2.years to be exact),

And also, all this talk of bloat/colic in big dogs has me worried about
little (ha ha) Siegfried. He wolfs down his food and then runs to go
wrestle and  tumble with Baeki (who's taken to hiding from him half
the time!). Should I worry or just keep an eye out for trouble? And while
I'm thinking about it, does it help any to make the dog walk around and
not allow it to lie down (like with horses) until you can get it to a vet?
Stupid question, maybe, but I thought I'd ask anyhow!

Kay Schlumpf & Crew
From: sdonahue@pbs.org (Susan Donahue (10,000 Maniacs minus 1))
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: Thunder & barking
Date: 8 Nov 92 11:16:16 EST
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

RE: barking problems....
RC Steele catalogue has at least 2 items for bark-breaking...actually, 3 on
page 17 of the current catalogue.  I have used the repeller for one of my
dogs....she gets the message when it's used....unfortunately, I don't always
have the device on me when i need it...[yup, gotta train the owner]

RC Steele phone number = 1-800-872-3773
	Regards,
	 Susan

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: posie@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (donald.e.church)
Subject: Re: cats
Summary: Suggested Reading Material
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: bl
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:50:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.195222.665@ab.wvnet.edu>, onda@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
> 
> 
> 		i am bored
> 		i hate dogs and i love cats
> 		'nuff said
> 
> 		jason

Possibly you should visit your local bookstore and pick
up a copy of "101 Uses for a Dead Cat" to help end your
boredom. :-)

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: terrih@mcnc.org (Terri W. Hardwick)
Subject: Re: What books are good?
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:04:39 GMT

In article <64640001@hpcss01.cup.hp.com> bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett) writes:
>Grettings everyone,
>
>I'd be interested in hearing which dog books you think are really good,
>and I am most interested in books that deal with obedience training and
>dog psychology/behavior.
>

Understanding and relating to your dog -
	"Mother Knows Best" by Carol Benjamin
	"How To Be Your Dog's Best Friend" by the Monks of New Skete

Obedience training, from pre-novice to utility -
	"Beyond Basic Training" by Diane Bauman
	"Playtraining Your Dog" by Carol Burnham

Therapy dog training -
	"Therapy Dog" by ??
		I have just recently discovered this one.  It is a
		great psychology book and uses wonderfully gentle
		training methods

The fun stuff!!
	"Dog Tricks" by Carol Benjamin and Capt. Haggerty

Health and care of your dog -
	"Dog Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook"

Frisbee training -
	write for your free training manual - this will also put you on
	the mailing list for the competition schedules.
		send stamped, self-addressed envelope to -
		Gaines Cycle AWI Booklet
		P.O. Box 877
		Young America, MN 55399

Herding training -
	"A Way of Life" by Glyn Jones


Terri Hardwick 					(terrih@mcnc.org)
   	Apropos My Tigerlily PT CGC     (Terv)
   	Apropos My Marco Polo CD HT CGC (Terv)
	Meg CGC (Border Collie)

Gone but not forgotten - Siegfried Von Der Niebel CDX            (GSD)
		 U-CD CH Fierami's Magical Mischief CDXTD HT CGC (Terv)
		 U-CD    Calais de la Zia CDX HIC                (Terv)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bradley@mdd.comm.mot.com (Michael Bradley)
Subject: Re: dog seat belts!! any good??
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:08:12 GMT

In article <6612@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> robbie@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) writes:
>I haven't been active on this newsgroup for a while so if this issue has already
>been discussed then I apologize in advance. 
>Anyhow, I have recently heard that there exists seat belts for dogs. From what I
>understand, this is a leather strap which attaches to the 
>car's seat belt which must also have a shoulder strap. 
>R.C. Steel carries dog seat belts. The price is under $10 U.S. 
>I would be interested in hearing if these belts are any good or not.
>
>
>Rob Arrabito
>e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca

We decided to try said apparatus (nylon not leather). Any seat
belt can be used. We started early with our pup. We our on our
second one (outgrew the first).  We have had no
accidents so I cant tell you how good it is there. It does however
keep the dog from roaming around the back seat or trying to 
climb into the front. I would recommend it. If I had a large
wagon I would probably rather have a portable crate.

 Michael Bradley