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From: mikeh@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Michael Hore)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Help MDS
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:14:41 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32


Somkiat KITJONGTHAWONKUL writes:

> ...  The problem is that I can not
>find the package "Macintosh 68000 Development System (MDS)" for using
>with this book.
>
>	Could anyone know how to get that package?

This package was originally by Consulair, and distributed by Apple,
and since superseded by MPW.  But Consulair still distribute the
assembler under their own name.  But I can't comment on its
quality, since while there have been a few queries about it
on Compuserve and comp.sys.mac.programmer, nobody who's actually
using it has replied, to my knowledge.  That's about all I know.

-- Mike.

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Mike Hore        Internet:    mikeh@kralizec.zeta.org.au
From: golight@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Date: 05 Oct 92 01:51 EST
Subject: Re: DIY SIMM install = void warranty???
Nf-ID: #R:1992Sep22.182603.1@lure.latrobe.:394072162:peg:993500102:000:706
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!golight    Oct  5 01:51:00 1992


What warranty.....Apple gives up after 90days....+ are you
expecting it to blow-up anytime soon?  I've found on all of the
$1K's of apples equip that I have purchased this is what's the
go....Never (& I do mean Never) has any thing gone wrong within
the expressed time there was a warranty on the equip.  When a few
things went bump in the night....I took it to a good apple repair
person....(someone that I trust and have a good relationship with)
and they fixed it...quick and for very few $"s.....Another
suggestion...if the budget would afford it...go for a Classic
II...or better yet a LC II....Mo bang for the buck....Be sure if
you self install...be mindful of static electricity... Regards,
Photon

Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Subject: Re: screen capture s/w ??
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:29:06 GMT

matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) writes:
>Is there a key sequence to capture a window rather than the whole
>screen?  If not it would seem like a strange omission.

There was in Systems before System 7.0 : Command-Shift-4 would dump
the current window to the printer and Command-Shift-4-Capslock would
dump the current screen to the printer.  I think.  Something like that,
anyhow.  But it's all gone, now.  (And good riddance, if you ask me)
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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: tuovinen@zac.riv.csu.edu.au
Subject: Files with .cpt ending?
Organization: Charles Sturt University - Riverina, NSW, Australia
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:32:17 +1000

I have downloaded a number of BinHexed files from AARNET which
de-BinHexed end with .cpt file format ending.  What s/w will
unpack these files?  Where can one find the suitable s/w?

Thanks, Juhani Tuovinen
Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
Subject: Re: DIY SIMM install = void warranty???
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date:  5 Oct 92 05:32:07 GMT

golight@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:


>What warranty.....Apple gives up after 90days....+ are you
					^^^^^^
Apple's warranty has been 1 year for some time now.

Tonio Loewald

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tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au | Fax 06 290 1595 | ACT 2601   AUSTRALIA

Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: jimb@ausom.oz.au (Jim Brandi)
Subject: Gatekeeper detecting suspicious opn's
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:22:13 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

I've been having some strange stuff happening whenever I startup. Gatekeeper
has been vetoing privilege violations by all my INITs that haven't already
been granted resource privileges.

When I check Gatekeeper's log, I get ten messages as follows:

"The program "......" violated the Res(Self) privilege by invoking the procedure
RsrcMapEntry on its own 'INIT' resource "...". This is a very suspicious
operation."

Can anyone explain what this means? I don't know whether I should grant
privileges for the programs in question or not. Disinfectant 2.9 gives my
Mac a clean bill of health.

I'm running system 7.0.1 with tuneup on an LCII.

I haven't been using my Mac for almost a month and the first time I started it
up it was fine. The first thing I did was download DiskDoubler3.7.7PatchKit and upgrade DiskDoubler.

Since then I've been having this occur every time I startup.

I hope someone out there can help.

-- 
jimb
(Jim Brandi)
jimb%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
From: i899435@redgum.bcae.oz.au (I COUROULIS)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: screen capture s/w ??
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:10:40 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: UCNV, Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
Originator: i899435@redgum.ucnv.edu.auLines: 34

matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) writes:

[previous discussions deleted]

MH>Is there a key sequence to capture a window rather than the whole
MH>screen?  If not it would seem like a strange omission.
MH>
MH>Regards,
MH>	-Matt
MH>matt@aodc20.aodc.gov.au

FTP to archie.au and have a look in /micros/mac/info-mac/cp:

-rw-r--r--  1 mac         66377 Jul 28  1991 flash-it-22.hqx
-r--r--r--  1 mac         90081 Sep 10 07:39 flash-it-23b1.hqx


Flash It is a public domain screen capture utilit which can
capture whole screens, windows, partial screens, you name it.



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Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: screen capture s/w ??
From: srcriro@chv.lincoln.cri.nz
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:47:35 +1200
Organization: Crown Research Inst., New Zealand

Ahem you Guys, if System 7 users would care to look at the bottom of their
File Menu, top left of the screen, you will find the option "Print Window..."

And yes, [Cmnd] [Shift] [3] takes a snapshot of the screen (you can even hear
the shutter click) which is parked on the HD as a Teachtext Picture. That 
can be printed out if you don't mind tying up the DeskWriter for a week.

Tootle pip.....Ian O

Disclaimer: Do not believe anything I say, because I invariably tell lies.
From: s921574@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Kok Heng Chan)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: What're the best compression/backup s/w in Mac?
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:21:47 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.
 
 Good morning everybody,


 Recently, I try to backup all (or some) of my document and softwares
 in Mac.  I wonder if what are the best compression s/w or backup s/w
 that can help me to do so?

 I'll appreciate very much, if somebody can tell me more about it.

 Thanks.

 KokHeng        ....  Have a nice day ....
 Victoria
 E-Mail: s921574@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
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RMIT,
Victoria      E-mail address: s921574@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
Australia                     s921574@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
From: mikeh@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Michael Hore)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Help MDS
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:52:22 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32


Somkiat KITJONGTHAWONKUL writes:

> ...  The problem is that I can not
>find the package "Macintosh 68000 Development System (MDS)" for using
>with this book.
>
>	Could anyone know how to get that package?

This package was originally by Consulair, and distributed by Apple,
and since superseded by MPW.  But Consulair still distribute the
assembler under their own name.  But I can't comment on its
quality, since while there have been a few queries about it
on Compuserve and comp.sys.mac.programmer, nobody who's actually
using it has replied, to my knowledge.  That's about all I know.

-- Mike.

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Mike Hore        Internet:    mikeh@kralizec.zeta.org.au
From: edgelink@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Date: 02 Oct 92 21:33 EST
Subject: Classic II 4/80 for sale $2300 ono
Nf-ID: #N:peg:993500101:000:150
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!edgelink    Oct  2 21:33:00 1992


Mac Classic II for sale.

4 meg, 80 meg hd
great machine, almost new, urgent debt inspired sale.

contact Paul Vigo .c.o. mediCINEMAnnor ph. 519-7817
From: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: screen capture s/w ??
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:05:41 GMT
Reply-To: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Distribution: aus
Organization: none

In article <1992Sep29.021041.3846@darwin.ntu.edu.au> i899435@redgum.bcae.oz.au (I COUROULIS) writes:
>matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) writes:
>
>[previous discussions deleted]
>
>MH>Is there a key sequence to capture a window rather than the whole
>MH>screen?  If not it would seem like a strange omission.
>
>FTP to archie.au and have a look in /micros/mac/info-mac/cp:
>
>-rw-r--r--  1 mac         66377 Jul 28  1991 flash-it-22.hqx
>-r--r--r--  1 mac         90081 Sep 10 07:39 flash-it-23b1.hqx
>
>Flash It is a public domain screen capture utilit which can
>capture whole screens, windows, partial screens, you name it.

A correction.  Flash-It is a great piece of software, quite useful if
you regularly need to grab screens (or parts thereof).  It is easily
configurable through the Control Panel Interface.

However, Flash-It is *not* public domain.  It is SHAREWARE, very
reasonably priced at US$15, worth every cent, and should be supported.
Nobu Toge (the author) is quite responsive to suggestions and regularly
improves the software.  I hope this was just a slip by the previous
poster!  -- Clark

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From: ianf@cs.adelaide.edu.au (Ian Florance)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Telefinder
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:28:19 GMT
Reply-To: ianf@cs.adelaide.edu.au (Ian Florance)
Distribution: aus
Organization: Comp Sci, Uni of Adelaide, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: chook.cs.adelaide.edu.au

Does anyone know of an Australain Distributor for 'Telefinder'?
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From: anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Nielsen)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: DIY SIMM install = void warranty???
Followup-To: aus.mac
Date: 7 Oct 1992 02:11:56 GMT
Organization: Winthrop Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: brianx-pc.wt.uwa.edu.au

In article <tal691.718263127@huxley>, tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio
Loewald) wrote:
> Apple's warranty has been 1 year for some time now.

And if you purchase Apple products through the Apple University Consortium,
at least here in Australia, your warranty is extended by a further year.

_________________________________________________________________________
Andrew D. Nielsen                    Internet : anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au
Computer Support Officer             AppleLink: AUST0190
Winthrop Technology                  
The University of Western Australia                    Tel: +61-9-3801757
NEDLANDS WA 6009   AUSTRALIA                           FAX: +61-9-3821688
From: mikeh@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Michael Hore)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Programming work in Sydney?
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:29:53 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32


I'm a Mac programmer looking for work in the Sydney area.
More than anything, I'm really after advice as to how to
proceed.  Mac programming jobs never seem to get advertised
in the papers, so I assume it's all word of mouth or some
other grapevine.  I've been in the NT for a long time, and
only recently returned to Sydney.

I've also been trying the AAPDA BBS, but no replies yet
(maybe everybody's working too hard :-(  )  I could join
Club Mac but don't want to fork out $$ unnecessarily.

Any advice (email) would be *very* gratefully received.
If it's worth it, I'll summarize here.

--  Mike.

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Mike Hore        Internet:    mikeh@kralizec.zeta.org.au
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: raphael@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael)
Subject: Re: Ticket pricing
Keywords: clouds
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:46:30 GMT

andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew_John DISSELDORP) writes:

Eight bucks to see the Clouds?  Cheap at twice the price.  :-) It was $10
in at the Lansdowne last night for the Very's, Club Hoy and Falling Joys.
Excellent value, and it looked like a full house to me.

>	-Are there any kickbacks to the band for playing the venue?

I don't think so, they just get paid and a drink rider.  Eventually the
rider assumes mythical proportions, and could be a kickback.

>	-Do the band get a cut of the bar?

Maybe. I've read that some venues pay on the door take and bar sales.
That is, a part of the door take goes to the venue, and a part of the
bar sales goes to the band.  If lots of thirsty punters turn up, you
can pay the rent.

>	-Would this tour be so cheap so as to promote the band and
>	new single?

That show was cheaper, I think the later shows were more expensive.
The same thing's happening at the Annandale this week.
-- 
Andrew Raphael <raphael@research.canon.oz.au>
    "She's probably not what she seems, though she tries..."
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!)
Subject: Re: KYLIE MINOGUE & humor
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:46:30 GMT

dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>Kylie did crash into #37 first week in, and is likely to do better.

>This has to be the best singer she's released since "If You Were With
>Me Now".

This is dreadful!  Has Kylie got all the good singers locked up so that she
may dominate the charts?  I hope she releases a few more singers soon, I don't
think it's fair.

>-- 
>1)-----------------------Rev 6:8 "... They were given authority over a quarter
>of the Earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague, and wild beasts."

You mean Kylie and her mates?  This is serious (mum).

Kylie: RELEASE ALL SINGERS NOW.
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew Disseldorp)
Subject: Hunters and Collectors New Album - Cut.
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:32:13 GMT

Hi All,
	I have bought Cut, and now listened to it in its entirity (sp?).
If you do buy it, get it in Limited Edition box, that includes remixes
of Head Above Water. Actually it includes the Head Above Water Cd Single.
(Trying to manipulate the singles chart Jamie?). All for the same price
as normal.

	About the album. 11 songs, 3/4 of which the general public
know of already - Where do you go? (*), Head Above Water, We The People,
and Hear No Evil. There are some reasonable songs on the album, and one
other (potentially) great song. The potentially great song is "True to tears
of joy". I can see this taking over from Throw your arms around me as the
H & C's anthem. It might not be as chantable/singable, but it really is a
good song.
	(*) - Where do you go is a different version to the single realease.
It is noticeably different, and unless I am very much mistaken it includes
a sample (!) from a Frankie goes to Hollywood Song (Two Tribes 12" ??). The new
version is more in the new Hunters mould, more dancy, less accessable. If this
had been the single release, Where Do you Go? would not have been a 
"chart success" (c) Jamie 1992))
	Other reasonable songs from the album include Grindstone, Holy
Grail, and Love that I long for. The other songs on the album I can't
really remember, so I guess they couldn't be really good!

Comments Welcome

Andrew (andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au)
From: carol@ee.uts.edu.au (Carol Gibson)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Wipe() (was: Re: Carol the Punter
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:30:18 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: rossi.ee.uts.edu.au

brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:



>Should give Wipe() a mention in that they have one of those CDEP thingies out
>called "dangle the carrot".  It's grown on me - sounds a little like Louis
>Tillet too.  (...I did hear about the awful gig they did with him, Carol :-)

There's been a couple of comparisons to Laughing Clowns, but all agree it's
very good (rave reviews in Drum Media, OTS, Vertigo...)  JJJ played it for a 
then seemed to forget about it, which is a pity. 


>Are Wipe() still packing the Hopetoun etc?

The "Wipe() crowd" is still operational and follow the lads to their every gig.
This week Wipe() are supporting the Clouds at the Annandale (friday). $8 entry.

	Carol
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy)
Subject: Re: U2 decide not to tour Australia
Keywords: Article from the Melb. Herald Sun
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date:  2 Oct 92 01:44:42 GMT

andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew_John DISSELDORP) writes:

>The Achtung Baby image/music is different, but it is still very real.

There is no reason that an interesting marketing strategy should make 
music less "real." 

>There is one song of the album which is not performed live (Acrobat) -
>Every other song is performed by the 4 band members. Noone else gets
>up on stage with them. The only "non real" elements of the music
>are Effects Pedals, which everyone uses and A voice Alterer,
>used by Bono during Zoo Station, Bullet the Blue Sky and others.

So we're told. There's no point arguing about this, since no aus.music 
people will have access to the facts. Even so, why would it matter if they
use tapes/sequencers or backup musicians?

>Would you deny that U2 are where they are today because of their 
>musical and electrifying live efforts rather then "sex appeal" 

I doubt U2 could get anywhere on sex appeal. They are consistently 
interesting musicians with, currently, a strong collection of songs 
which combine a lot of different modern influences. I did 
think Achtung baby was one of the strongest releases from a megaband in 
a long time. I've changed my opinion since Faith No More, INXS and pretty much 
everyone else have either mutilated their sound, or announced their intention 
to on upcoming records.

>And if you thought I was talking of Madonna (who is a brilliant
>marketer) you were wrong. 

Many U2 fans are "traditional" teenage males. They live their music live,
uncomplicated and preferably as epic as possible, which is why the earlier,
big-statment U2 was so appealing. Madonna (and dance music in general, of which
Madonna is usually the focus for criticism) doesn't fit - so she's bad.

I'd wrongly assumed you were one of these. Sorry.

--- G M Heinrich  ( leroy@socs.uts.edu.au )
Rumour has it Yabsley first threatened to resign if the pain didn't go away, 
then, realising he was wasting his time, ordered an ambulance.
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
From: john@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Mackin)
Subject: Review: Roger Waters _Amused to Death_
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:56:00 GMT

Executive Summary:
If you're a Waters fan, go and buy his latest album.  You won't be sorry.

I bought this some weeks ago on import.  I've listened to it six
times.  I agree with the person who thought that it harked back to
_The Final Cut_ -- sure, there's the obvious parallel in that
they both have an anti-war element to the album's story, but I
found AtD to have more of an FC-like `feel' than his other solo
albums.

Also, I am finding that the album grows on me a lot -- I like it
better, and get more out of it, each time I listen to it.
To the person who didn't mind skipping bits of tracks: give
them another few tries!  I'm certain I haven't come close to
gleaning all the subtleties after only six times through.

Certainly I liked some bits better than others; the chorus
from _Perfect Sense_ especially (and it's so _catchy_!).
If anyone does have the time and equipment to reverse the
backward speech, please post or e-mail the result.

Jeff Beck's guitar playing was truly phenomenal.  I was a little
disappointed that Waters didn't have a part for the wonderful Clare
Torrey on AtD, given how terrific she was on KAOS (_Home_ and
_Four Minutes_) -- for those who might not know, she was the
amazing lady who did the vocals on _The Great Gig in the Sky_
(on DSotM), and her voice has improved, if anything, over the
intervening 19 years.  Some of the female vocal parts really
sound like they were written for her.  Not that the people who
do sing them are bad, or anything...

As to the comments several people have made regarding reuse of
SFX: I don't think I can pick any effects on AtD that are identical
with earlier albums.  He's done this in the past (FC/Wall, KAOS/FC,
P&C/Wall) but I really don't think he's done it on this album.
Certainly, any claim that the incoming/explosion sequence in
_Late Home Tonight_ is identical with that on the beginning
of Side 2 of FC is just laughable -- anyone who thinks that
hasn't listened to FC lately.  If anyone thinks they can pick
SFX that really are identical, I'd be interested to hear of it.

Overall: He's still in there Doing the Job.  And what a TREMENDOUS
cover!!!

AtD	_Amused to Death_
KAOS	_Radio K.A.O.S_, Waters
P&C	_The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking_, Waters
DSotM	_The Dark Side of the Moon_, Pink Floyd
FC	_The Final Cut_, Pink Floyd
Wall	_The Wall_, Pink Floyd
SFX	sound effects

-- 
John Mackin <john@civil.su.oz.au>
`Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream' -Sheep
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: wadley@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Gregory Robert Wadley)
Subject: Re: Hunters and Collectors new album - Cut
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:18:04 GMT

andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew Disseldorp) writes:

>Hi All,
>	Having heard selected tracks off the new H&C album off JJJ, I must
>say I am not really impressed at all. I presume JJJ are playing better songs
>off the album, and of the two I have heard so far I am not impressed. The
>really lack that zest and energy of recordings up to We The People.
>	I will probably go out on Monday and purchase it, but I have
[ ... ]

The music industry salutes you.
Newsgroups: aus.music