From: orville%weyrich@tnet.com (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: Some Recruiters etc in Phoenix
Reply-To: orville@weyrich.UUCP (Orville R. Weyrich)
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Distribution: usa,local
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 06:08:10 GMT

In article <sturges-090992112906@158.185.20.244> sturges@master.lds-az.loral.com (Jim Sturges) writes:
>In article <5SEP199215371429@misvax.mis.arizona.edu>,
>dfriedman@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (D R Friedman) wrote:
>> 
>
>> CAUTION
>> 
>> Arizona is not a very good place to work even when the economy is robust.
>> It is a right to work state and there is no labor law and it is legal

Some folks prefer it that way. I turned down a Union job in NJ to move to AZ
and have never regretted it. Other folks evidently would leave AZ tomorrow
if there were a rumor that NJ had a few unionized job openings. 

What a great deal -- I won't compete with them for the union job back East and
they can move away from me so I have more room to enjoy the kind of life style
that I prefer. We both win! :-)


>> in Arizona to be fired for bad cause, good cause, or no cause.  If you

You can also be promoted over someone that has more senority if you are the
better candidate. You can also work regardless of whether your co-worker 
likes his/her job conditions.

>> are expecting a wage scale like those in the Midwest or Back East or
>> California, forget it.  Also the taxes are high and the educational
>> system is mediocre at best.  Also Arizona is heavily dependent on the

Compared to what? My daughter left 2nd grade in AZ and enrolled in TN
(the state that V.P. Wannabe Gore hails from). The school system in 
Nashville commented that she belonged in 4th grade, and my daughter complained
that the class was too easy. [She is back in AZ now, and much happier with the
school]. The biggest problem that AZ has with their school system is the
constant influx of students that can't/won't speak English.

>> fortunes of the US defense industry and with the down sizing of the
>> military there are going to be a lot more Arizonans collecting
>> unemployment.  The maximum the state of Arizona pays for unemployment
>> is $ 145/week.

Perhaps true once; the going rate is at least $175/week now, unless they have
lowered it recently. And I have gotten the impression from news reports that
AZ is doing better than a lot of other parts of the country with regards
to the unemployment rate.

Another point: My father drives a moving van for Allied Van Lines. He tells me
that recently the moving companies have been "dead-heading" [running without
a payload] into CA because there are so many more people LEAVING that utopia
than entering. Note that only people with money or good jobs can afford
commercial household goods services like Allied. As people that can afford to
do it leave, CA will enter a death-spiral. On the other hand, there is a net
INFLUX into AZ. Evidently not everyone has such a dim view of the conditions 
in AZ.


orville

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