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From: igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich)
Subject: Re: .
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:38:06 GMT

In article <93022.150514VABHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <VABHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> Ha-ha, vot opyat' cheshuyu zdes' rasprostranyayu. Hottsa cho-to takova
> 
> otchibuchit' ot dushi, da netu sil v set' vlezt'. Potomu divu dayus',
> 
> zachem vu stol' mnogo prostranstva v seti ispisyvaete. Davalsya ya divu, davals
> ya, da i reshil sam pozagazhivat' mesto v seti. Dumayu daj-ko pozagazhivayu
> yamesto v seti, a tam vidno budet.
> 
> Inogda chitaesh' kaku-nibud' cheshuyu v seti, i tak nastroenie  eto vse
> 
> delo uluchshaet, chto hot' poj gimn velikomu gorodu i sovetrskomu soyuzu.
> 
> da ladno uzh, konchayu, zhdu vashih rechej.
> 



"I protekayut mysli s kryshi,
  i kuralesyat myshi v nishe,
  i svet zazhgli,..."

	(V. Pevzner)


--Igor P.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Subject: HARM missile for sale (real bargain)
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:28:21 GMT
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In <1k4v7l$1hf@agate.berkeley.edu> muh@physics2 writes:

> Anybody knows were one can buy a used HARM missile? Conversion, you know.
> 
> Yury M.

I have one for  sale! Really cheap!  I can deliver it  within 20 minutes to
any place within NY Metropolitan area. Sorry, no COD...

Get closer, send check or money order and wire your coordinates ASAP!

Cheers,

Greg
From: kilman2y@fiu.edu (Yevgeny Kilman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Moya militsya menya berezhyot (Was: Crime and punishment/CH(G
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:32:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: fiu.C1Htu6.MKt
Organization: Florida International University, Miami

In article <1993Jan26.235312.56357@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.030217.8627@news.nd.edu>, alexei@cartan.math.nd.edu (Alex Strouwe) writes:
>>
>> Gospoda,
>>
>>After the long discussion about Crime, I think we should talk a little bit  
>>about Punishment.
>>
>>I'd like to know what do you think of cops here and "mentah" there.
>
>Well... Menty ZARAZY! And the cops are usually very reasonable and
>polite. If U R not in NJ, however. But even there they are not VERY
>nasty, there are simply too many of them with radars on the road...
>
sig deleted

Cops like people; and people like cops...With an exception of Rodney King :-)

Y.K.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: alexeev@math.utah.edu (Valery A. Alexeev)
Subject: Re: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Utah
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:03:06 GMT

On 23 Jan 93 01:13:52 GMT, pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) adds:

> (didinsky garry) writes:
>>Can anyone express personal impressions/comparisons of individual safety in 
>>Russia and US?
>>

> And I can bet that there is no place half as scary even in the most
> dreaded prison camp zone cities of Siberia (e.g. Boguchansk) as
> Williamsburg in NYC.

Brutal destiny has brought me to Utah and, hey, this is THE safest on
Earth. Don't lock the door, leave keys in a keyhole outside -- in
vain, nothing will happen. Once I left my wallet with money and credit
cards in the carwash, what do you think, the same evening someone
called me up and returned it. Recently there was a TV story about a
madman who killed someone in the nearby Logan. The fact that called my
attention: that was the first killing in the city in _7 years_.

I never felt that safe anywhere in the SU (certainly not in Chechnya -
brrr) even in the golden years of the well developed socialism.

So, you have to know places.

v.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:12452 talk.politics.soviet:10764 soc.culture.europe:11444
From: mihai@sep.Stanford.EDU (Alexander Mihai Popovici)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Estonia, Cambodia, and UN and Russia
Date: 27 Jan 1993 01:00:53 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu

In article <12525@dunbar.ed.ac.uk>, alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) writes:
|> Tapani Hietaniemi has been talking of various international bodies
|> finding ''nothing wrong`` with the human rights situation in the
|> Baltics.  Hardly surprising!  I, for one, have not forgotten how the
|> Khmer Rouge kept the UN seat for Cambodia while at the same time
|> commiting some of the most hideous attrocities back home in the war
|> against their own people and the legitimate gov-t of the country.
|> 
|> Hooray for Khmer Rouge, Hoorey for Estonian gov-t., Hoorey for UN!
|>                                                 A.M-T.

It's funny how the same people who whine about human rights in the Baltics
never  seem to observe the situation in the "Dniester" area (part
of the Romanian speaking Moldova) where the
Romanian speaking population is forced to speak Russian.
The deep rooted demagogy and nationalism are part of this problem.
So you can add:	
 Hooray for Khmer Rouge, Hooray for Russian gov-t, 
 Hoorey for Estonian gov-t., Hoorey for UN!

Cheers
Mihai
From: nobby@stein.u.washington.edu (Vitaly Shmatikov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Date: 24 Jan 1993 00:50:26 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In article <C1BwEw.Fw2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) writes:

[...]

> >So let's restate earlier question, given that you are a person with a reasonable
>knowledge of your surroundings, where would you feel safer in NYC or in
>Moscow?

NYC without a tinge of doubt. I rode NYC subway many times, occasionally
as late as 2am, and hardly felt any jeopardy. When in Moscow "metro", one 
should be always prepared to confront a pack of leather-clad fellows requesting 
a smoke. The colloquy is customarily terse and compendious - "A pizdyulei?".
No answer to this rhetorical question is expected, and if one is not brisk
enough to slip away the outcome can be easily anticipated.

Contrariwise, NYC is reasonably safe. 3/4 of all neighborhoods are
positively secure and the rest can be eschewed without any effort.
Since I can barely conjure up a situation that would necessitate 
one's presence on the 125th street after the dusk, the scary
"New York Post" stories about drug dealers shooting each other should 
be regarded with the appropriate amount of judicious skepticism.

America beyond inner cities is not even worth talking about. My own
experience is that in countryside Russia after 5pm it's an arduous task
to find a sober male who is older than 14. Juxtapose it and any American 
suburb. In fact, if one excludes inner city ghettos from the statistics, 
the American crime situation appears quite decent.

>
>---Garik.

nobby@u.washington.edu
From: dharkins@papillon.ucsd.edu (Dan Harkins)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:47:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: papillon.ucsd.edu

In article <C1BwEw.Fw2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) writes:
>From stories that I hear, in Moscow, for example, one does
>not have safer places, because one could be "approached" anywhere
>and at any time.

On my last trip to the xUSSR I had the misfortune of staying in the 
Akadameshskaya gosdanitsa (sp?) right at the Oktoberskaya metro stop.
On our arrival, my wife and I left the hotel, took all our money and 
documents, and went to visit a friend. We returned to find...we've been
robbed! What did they take? Gifts: Baby clothes, perfume, pantyhose, silk 
underwear, but somehow missed the Levis and leather jacket. Yes! We were 
robbed by women-- the women who sit at the end of the hallway and see
everything, like who comes in, who goes out, when, with what in their 
hands, etc.

We called the militia and the guy who came said that this happens EVERY DAY
at that hotel. They (the militia) cannot set up a sting without the OK of 
the manager of the hotel, so everyone is tipped off. If the militia arrives
in the front door and says, "we're going to the 13th floor to look around"
the manager immediately calls the women on the 13th floor that the police
are coming. Quite a racket.

I've been robbed in the US, I've even heard of people getting robbed in
hotels in the US, but I've never heard of the hotel itself being involved in
ritual robbery of their customers. A new low.

I've never felt physically in danger in the xSU (or the SU for that matter),
but I did, and still do, feel that the chance of not-so-violent crime is
much greater.

Dan Harkins
dharkins@ucsd.edu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:12426 talk.politics.soviet:10741 soc.culture.turkish:15026 soc.rights.human:5011 talk.politics.mideast:26297
From: alexeev@math.utah.edu (Valery A. Alexeev)
Subject: Re: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Utah
	<ALEXEEV.93Jan22220306@solitude.math.utah.edu>
	<1jsd73INNqf@haven.umd.edu> <C1BwEw.Fw2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:23:41

On Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:42:32 GMT, didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) said:

> It is true that there are places in US where one will have his brain
> damaged with a very high probability.  However, it is also true that
> people in general know which places should be avoided, and also know
> that by sticking to other places they can feel pretty safe.  From
> stories that I hear, in Moscow, for example, one does not have safer
> places, because one could be "approached" anywhere and at any time.

As long ago two years ago there were certainly good neighbourhoods
and bad neighbourhoods. You knew that a very broad vicinity of the Moscow
University is a beautiful and a very safe place and, on the contrary,
in Kuncewo or near metro station Profso@znaq you would be confronted
pretty often. I am recalling one of these encounters, with the
anectodical outcome for the guys (I happened to have a friend at that
time who with a bold head and metal teeth had this'just out of the
jail' look, rreal scary). 

> So let's restate earlier question, given that you are a person with
> a reasonable knowledge of your surroundings, where would you feel
> safer in NYC or in Moscow?
> ---Garik.

Hard to say. A friend of mine was robbed in NY on the same day
_twice_, and the first time it was in the mall in the middle of the
day. But then, someone I know returned from Moscow recently with all the
bones in his body broken. Didn't see the attackers either - just a
shot of some neuro-paralytic gas in the face and then woke up in the
morning on the cold street.

v.
From: burshtey@twist.seas.upenn.edu (Alexander Burshteyn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Mail to Russia. Shit!
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:16:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <107844@bu.edu> gdr@acs.bu.edu (Dmitry Goldenberg) writes:
>Thank God there are still good people like this guy in Russia but I was really
>pissed off by those assholes that open people's letters searching for enclosed
>dollars (?!) and finally dumping them all. I heard the rumors of that a while
>ago but I couldn't believe such a blatant (and stupid) thing could be actually
>happening.

Believe it 'cause it's true. In one of the "Vzglyad" programs about a year ago,
they showed a whole landfill (it didn't seem anything less than that) of
letters from abroad, some ripped open and dumped, some not opened but dumped
anyway (out of general boredom, I guess). This was somewhere outside of Moscow
and seems exactly like the case with your friend.

A somewhat reversed version of this happened to me, too. About half a year ago
I received letter from my relative, which, at a closer look, turned out to be
nothing but a torn envelope WITHOUT the letter itself! Now I wonder what stupid
joker did that!

>However, with Sovok (even renamed in Russia) you never get tired of
>its new surprises.

The new is the well-forgotten old, remember? Also, I don't think they now
dump more letters than before, it's just that yu know more about it. For more
information, read U.S. Postal Service brochure "Sending mail to the USSR"
(exact title?). It is still useful now.

>I guess for many sovoks it's a golden time now: they never cared for such
>luxuries as elementary ethics, and now they can even stop pretending they
>have any brakes in their rotten minds. They enjoy their newly attained
>freedom - freedom to fall as low as they want.
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's probably what they think they need to climb as high as they can.

Alex Burshteyn.
********************************
I saw reality in my dreams.
What a relief it was to wake up!
	Stanislaw Jerzy Lec,
	"Uncombed Thoughts."
********************************
From: muh@physics2 (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Moya militsya menya berezhyot (Was: Crime and punishment/CH(G
Date: 27 Jan 1993 03:23:33 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics2.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan26.235312.56357@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) writes:
>
	Well... Menty ZARAZY! And the cops are usually very reasonable and
	polite. If U R not in NJ, however. But even there they are not VERY
	nasty, there are simply too many of them with radars on the road...

Anybody knows were one can buy a used HARM missile? Conversion, you know.

Yury M.
From: Howard Frederick <hfrederick@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:38 PST
Subject: Europe in Turmoil*Media*Call4Papers
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1474600041:000:2526
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hfrederick    Jan 24 15:38:00 1993


From: Howard Frederick <hfrederick>
Subject: Europe in Turmoil*Media*Call4Papers

                [ Please respond to hfrederick@igc.apc.org ]
                     Call for Papers*Deadline Extended

                    International Communication Section
         INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR MASS COMMUNICATION RESEARCH

                            "Europe in Turmoil:  
               Communication and Democracy in Civil Society"
        Hosted by School of Communications, Dublin City University
                        June 25-26 Dublin, Ireland

     Three forces compete for the hearts and minds of Europe's attentive 
publics--government, market, and civil society.  In Europe, as elsewhere, 
governments and markets control the major channels of public opinion 
formation, so they usually prevail.  But new channels (both interpersonal 
and technological) have transformed our capacity to build and maintain 
long-distance coalitions and networks.  New regional and global forces are 
now using new channels of communication to fight problems whose scale 
previously confounded local and national solution.  We call this the 
"transnationalization of civil participation."  

     The International Communication Section seeks papers for two panels 
describing the scope and impact of channels promoting communication and 
democracy in Europe's civil societies.  From the environment to women, from 
neighborhood conflict resolution to computer networks, from radio to 
publishing, from universities to the labor movement:  Civil society is 
producing new media to distribute its culture and information.  Market- and 
government-controlled media have not been able to provide reliable and 
diversified information essential to democracy.  We will accept articles 
from outside Europe if they focus on channels of civil and democratic 
communication relevant "Europe in Turmoil."  

     Paper abstracts accepted until February 15.  Important:  Final papers 
must be submitted via *email or on diskette* by April 15, 1992, no 
exceptions.  For submissions, contact:  Howard H. Frederick, President, 
International Communication Section of IAMCR, P.O.B. 94653, Pasadena, CA 
91109 USA Voice:  +1-818-568-0994  Email:  hfrederick@igc.apc.org   
Fax: +1-818-791-2205 "Attention CLAIRE"   

     For more information on the Dublin conference, contact Paschal 
Preston, School of Communications, Dublin City University, Glasnevin DUBLIN 
9, IRELAND  Tel:  +353 1 7045478  Fax:  +353 1 704 5447  
E-Mail:  PrestonP@dcu.ie
From: pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:20:00 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <C1BvFF.FK6@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) writes:
>pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) writes:
>
>>The most fast growing crime was theft. In particular, theft of food and cattle,
>>poaching and other illegal ways of obtaining something edible. Among crimes 
>
>Don't mean to sound stupid, but is theft of cattle part of some organized crime
>or is it just some random city folks way of feeding their families?

Both.

-- 
---
Thus spake Kalmoth the Dreaded, Bane of the Forests of Gnoy.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:13:08 EST
From: Boris A. Veytsman <BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Distribution: world
 <ALEXEEV.93Jan22220306@solitude.math.utah.edu> <1jsd73INNqf@haven.umd.edu>


In article <1jsd73INNqf@haven.umd.edu>, vadik@savoir.cs.umd.edu (Vadim Maslov)
says:
>
>As I remember, in Moscow killings didn't happen every day,
>and it has 10 million population. So next follows trivia
>question: where do you have more chances to `kick the bucket',
>in Moscow or in DC area?
>
>
I think Vadim's data are incorrect. A friend of mine is a Dept. head
in the Odessa local newspaper. For several years they publish the
column 'Crime Situation Yesterday' using Militia info (just from the
time it was de-classified). You see, Odessa has 1,000,000 populace, and
crime level there is approx the same as in Moscow.

The usual rate last year was 2 murders per 3 days + 2..3 rapes (if my
memory is correct). If there was neither murders nor rapes some day
they printed 'We are lucky today' at the top of the column.

Militia officers say that this rate was stable for a number of years.
Now murder rate bursts up and rape rate somewhat decreases (maybe due
to the luck of food :-))

When I was a student (mid-80) I went home at midnight..1 a.m. and never
was attacked, but it was evident that there is no loot from me. Now, my
friends say, situation is different - streets are empty immediately
after dusk. Too bad...

-Boris
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: momotaro@cwis.unomaha.edu (Bryan Stack)
Subject: Re: ZAGADKA
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:39:00 GMT

bullsh@bull.bull.fr (Tol') writes:

> Nu razve eto zagadka. 
>Poprobuite otgadat' vot eti, iz zhurnalov
>Vesiolye Kartinki i Murzilka. 
>Use rot-13 to get the answers.

>	  4. Pozhmesh' v ruke nemnozhko -
>	     Stanet tverdoi kak kartoshka.
>	     
>	                   Farmubx
                          [Snezhok]  

Est' i sovsem drugoj otvet na ehtu zagadku. ;->
From: nobby@stein.u.washington.edu (Vitaly Shmatikov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: It may just mean the end of the world...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:57:28 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan22.032434.7879@emr1.emr.ca> davidson@ccrs.emr.ca (David Davidson) writes:

[...]

>J.K. is a far right, gun loving fascist. She was a driving force for
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Republican policy in Central America. She in no uncertain terms wanted to 
>kill every Sandinista and peasant who wanted land reform in Central America.
>She made Hitler look like a leftie. So, she wrote nice things about Boris Y.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and advocates the giving of massive amounts of aid to Russia. 

Don't you dare mention this amiable German bloke fornent the blood-thirsty 
homophobic christian-right-wing anti-choice standpat Republican bitch, 
the killer of - horrors! - not only blameless land-reform-wanting peasants
but also lily-white innocent Sandinistas!

[...]

>David

Nobby from the bulwark of democracy and political correctness,
      equally and affirmatively opportunistic University of Washington
From: didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Russia -> USA (DOGS) ??
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:00:37 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


Warning: This is just a joke :-) (<-smily face means a joke)
                                    ^
				    | this is not a joke on a joke situation...
				    .
				    .
				    .

pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) writes:


>Has anybody here on the net transported pedigreed dogs from Russia to the US?
>What documents are necessary? What is the cost of transportation? And
>what papers must the dog have to be legally allowed to breed in the US?

>Any e-mail comments will be appreciated. BTW, are there any owners of
>female Old English Sheepdogs around?

Is this your way of staying in US legally by claiming relations to an
American born?

---Garik.
From: pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Greetings from an AI program! Wow!
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:16:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <q3LPXB1w165w@bwalk.dm.com>, simvlad@bwalk.dm.com (Artificial Intellect) writes:
>This program, 'SimVlad', is an artificial intelligence simulation of a typical
[stuff nuked for brevity]
>pusher. Yasser 'Vulis' Arafat is 'gavno'.
>
The last one was REALLY cool!


-- 
---
Thus spake Kalmoth the Dreaded, Bane of the Forests of Gnoy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry)
Subject: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:19:16 GMT

At this late hour there is only question that still prevents me from going to
sleep: "What is the crime situation in old Russia?"  There is a lot of talk
lately about high crime rates in the US of A.  Does anyone know how dangerous
it is to live in Russia today?  I hear stories about people having to arm
themselves to walk in the evenings (these ones were from Novosibirsk). What is `the risk of being assulted in big/small/medium cities?

Can anyone express personal impressions/comparisons of individual safety in 
Russia and US?

----Garik.
From: dmbriggs@vela.acs.oakland.edu (BRIGGS DENNIS M)
Subject: Re: Moscow Daily News transcripts available?
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:26:36 GMT

will@wixer.cactus.org (Bill Staniewicz) writes:

>I watch the Moscow Daily News rebroadcast on C-SPAN
>and was wondering if there is any source of printed
>transcripts in the english language. I phoned C-SPAN
>and they told me they do not offer any transcripts nor
>video copies.


>-- 
>Bill
>will@wixer.cactus.org


I also am interested. Hope we can find transcripts.

--mikey
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: veith@dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Helmut Veith (gottlob))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Access to e-mail in Russia for visitors
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:30:35 GMT
Reply-To: veith@dbai.tuwien.ac.at
Organization: DBAI

I don't know the situation in Moscow, but last year in Kiev it was possible
to do e-mail from the main post office. So you could trie there.
---
Helmut Veith