From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Subject: Re: Swedofobia in Jarmo Ryyti
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:57:03 GMT

Alf Christophersen (achristo@pons.uio.no) wrote:
: 
: >It is a vegetable called "kaalrot" in the Scandinavian languages.
: >It tastes the same but is supposedly a little different from
: >"kaalrabi" which Norwegians like to eat. The original English name was
: >supposedly "Swedish turnip".
: Oh, I thought it was opposite, that Sweden was named after that
: turnip:-)
: (At least, many of them look like .....) :-) :-) :-) (I couldn't
: resist)

So the topic of the discussion is turned around my personality, not
a very interesting thing for a news-group called nordic.culture.
In such a group discussion should be on a little higher level.

Some remarks:
The swedish  translation about the laws directed towards the Finns
in Sweden; no comment about its contents, just that I should not write
 it and disturb "the peace" on the net

No one could not deny the genocide of the Forest Finns; no facts
against my assertion, just comments that I should not write about it.

Fennofobia theme on Aland Islands; some comments may be because Aland
is in Finland, so the swedes activated a little...and you  know they always
know  better  what is going on there...not a word about situation of the
Finns in Sweden-no facts.

Home-language v. mother tongue; some excuses from the Swedes, mostly
wishing not to write about the theme, not to mention comparison
with Finlandswedes v. Swedenfinns...
NO analysis.

Hmm, with an education, completed for a long time ago, in social politics
I think people are mostly "computer freaks" on the net...very
intelligent but very narrow viewed people outside their own field
of "science" or...?

I think I will continue however because this news group is soc.culture.
nordic. And the minority rights are a vital part of the culture, right
to an education in your own language, history from the point of the minorities
and the past as dark as it maight be one should know it when having as
a hobby "nordic culture".

Yesterday driving home from Karelia I listened to a radio programme of the
Finns of Northern Norway who had a congress in Saariselk{, Northern Finland.
One representant of the congress, I think from Alattio explained how
so called Nordic cooperation is mostly just speeches. She mentioned
as an example how they have tried the norwegian authorities to accept the idea
having an own antenna receiving Finnish speaking radio-programmes from Finland,
 because there is nothing for them in Norwegian radio, she told that
 as a result of decades demanding aid for such a project 
the norwegian authorities
are against over there. The reason, she said, is that the norwegian
authorities are afraid that the Finns sthrengthen their culture and 
start demanding more and more (like education in finnish)
(You know there are places where is since 1600th century finnish people just
as a background information.)

So I am not taking this from my hat, but writing about problems
which seem to be very sensitive. Giving a picture of Scandinavia as
an ethnic heaven is false. Some even hope that it is not discussed.
That makes me to continue. I enjoy it!

 You know the Finns has nothing to loose in such a discussion and 
some have understood it and react hostile. (I knew it)

Terveisi{,
Jarmo



: 
: >
: >Rolf Manne
: >a Swede
: >e-mail Rolf.Manne@uib.no
: >
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