HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: Minds Change *or* How to Mislead With Numbers
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:35:24 GMT

In article <1i8jcvINNhv0@plts.uucp>, tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
> In <1993Jan3.201304.3597@athena.mit.edu> tcarlin@athena.mit.edu (Thomas B Carlin) writes:
> 
> >(1)  This is very much the EXACT same reaction the Arizona had
> >	to the boycott of that state.  Surprise, surprise,
> >	they changed their minds.
> >	     ^^^^^^^
> >(2)  Hunger is a great motivator.
> 
> Check the sources of the poll.  Polls always show exactly what the
> "researcher" wants to show.  If the poll shows the opposite of what
> they want people to see, they don't publish it.

  Well it's probably hard to say what is really happening but if
this poll is accurate why should we be suprised? It is after all
only 2 months ago that the voters made up their minds the first
time and it's not to suprising that they are going to be stuborn
about their decision for quite some time. 
  It takes time to eat humble pie.
 
> Believe me, the boycott is working.  Let's all keep it up!

  The best part of the boycott is that it keeps the entire issue
in the domain of public discussion rather then being dropped from
the face of the earth. The economics of it are quite irrelevent
really.
-- 

		Michael Thomas	(mike@gordian.com)
	"I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..."  
		-- Hobbes to Calvin
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From: th1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Timothy Hillmer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure
Date: 8 Jan 93 07:12:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cfHPLoe00WBK02Ya0l
	<16B4F1000A.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu>
Organization: Computer Store, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 08-Jan-93 in Re: Northern Exposure        
user Tracey McCartney@ua1vm.u writes:
> 
>My girlfriend and I watched this show together, and to be frank, I
>just wrote it off as more of Maurice's ignorance. He bashes the gay
>couple mercilessly until he needs them to help him with his latest
>project, whether it be archeology or cooking. I figured Maggie let
>it pass because her mind was on other things, like getting the idiot
>ex-astronaut out of her front yard.

My parnter and I saw the episode and were not at all put off by Maurice.
 His character is just like that, and Maggie was going through a really
tough, self-revealing time.  Her not responding to Maurice's stupidity
is perfectly in character at that point (as is Maurice's being an ass). 

>The show's gay-friendly reputation is well-deserved. The town apparently
>was founded by a lesbian couple, and their relationship was portrayed
>in a warm, non-stereotypical way. So I'm willing to forgive one lapse
>because I know the producers' hearts are in the right place.

This show is the best thing on commercial television.

Timothy
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From: stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants)
Subject: Re: BAR Manners in Boston....
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:25:06 GMT

In article <C0Dy39.647@cs.vu.nl> fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:
>
>You wimps. Real men drink from the bottle like in the leatherbars in
>the Warmoesstraat.
>
>Of course, they will serve liquor in glasses. I mean, you try drinking
>gin 'n tonic from the bottle.
>							FJ!!

A swig of this, a swig of that.......pretty soon you don't notice it.


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From: buckmr@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: MOW Update & # for Official Travel Agents
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:12:41 GMT

Paco Ojeda <ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:

>Greetings!
>Could anyone please post any updated information regarding the schedule
>of events at MOW? Also, I seem to have misplaced the toll-free number for
>the official travel agents that was posted here a couple of weeks ago.
>Could anyone please repost it as well?

"PRESS RELEASE    MARCH ON WASHINGTON    PRESS RELEASE
The 1993 March on Washington for Lesbian, Gay, and Bi. Equal Rights
and Liberation, POB 34607, Washington DC 20043-4607; 800-832-2889

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE   
Contact Gypsy Tucker at 510-437-2163
July 1, 1992

OFFICIAL HOUSING BUREAU AND TRAVEL AGENTS SELECTED FOR THE
APRIL 25, 1993 March on Washington

The Committee for the March on Washington, Inc. has agreements with one
hotel accommodations agency and three travel agencies for the 1993
March on Washington.  A percentage of the gross revenue for travel
and hotel rooms booked through these agencies will benefit the
national March on Washington committee.

The official March on Washington housing bureau is:
	WASHINGTON D.C. ACCOMMODATIONS; contact: Patricia Joan Endel
	phone: 800-554-2220; phone: 202-289-2220; fax 202-483-4436

The official March on Washington travel agencies are:
	FOR THE MID-WEST AND NORTHEAST: 
		Capital Travel, 271 Lark St., Albany NY 12210
		Contact: Jon Boyle. Phone: 800-800-9009

	FOR THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST:
		Reservation Desk, 3500 Maple, Suite 120, Dallas TX 75219.\
		Contact: M. Baird and D. Taffet
		Phone: 214-522-5106. Fax: 214-522-5106.

	FOR THE WEST AND MOUNTAIN STATES:
		Confident Travel, 1499 Bayshore Hwy, Suite 126
		Burlingame CA 94010
		Contact: Jean Shaw; Phone: 800-872-7252.

We chose DC Accommodations because of their experience and excellent 
reputation.  They know the hotel business in Washington and will
fight for the lowest rates possible.  DC Accommodations booked
hotel rooms for the 1992 NOW March and is the official housing
bureau for the 1992 Names Project Display.

'With three official travel agents, everyone in the country can
purchase their plane tickets through a lesbian/gay/bi owned and
operated agency.  You don't have to live near the official
travel agents to use their services.  Remember, using these official
travel agencies will financially benefit the March on Washington.
We hope that other travel agents who make a profit from selling
plane tickets and hotel rooms to people coming to the march wil
(OOPS, will) also make a donation to the national committee.'
Gypsy Tucker, Executive Committee member and Travel liaison for
the 1993 March on Washington."
####end of release####

-- 
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"White males make up only 39.8% of the American population, yet they comprise
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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: Why not cure homosexuality?
Summary: Heavy sarcasm mode *on*
Organization: Free Faerie Front
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:34:08 GMT

In article <2b4a7e2e-4cd0.17soc.motss-1@vpnet.chi.il.us> akcs.kennedy@vpnet.chi.il.us (Edward A. Kennedy) writes:
> 
>The 12-step therapies seem to help people fight their urges 
>toward homosexuality while the scream therapies seem to make 
>those urges go away for ever.

I'm assuming this was meant ironically. There are no smileys, but many
people don't use them (myself among them); and besides, there's no
*way* this post could be serious. Right?

Anyway, there's only one kind of therapy that makes these "urges" go
away forever, and that's "noose therapy" (and its equivalents).
Straights periodically start employing this to cure us, as soon as
they find that other, more moderate therapies (like drugs, castration,
beatings) don't work.
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"I is not now, nor has I ever been, a Human Bein'!"
                ---Pogo Possum
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: word queens? (was Re: Another Epithet Discovered)
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:48:55 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <michaelh.726738640@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>,
michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane) wrote:
> 
> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
> 
> >What's the technical name for those things placed on tombstones?
> >Things like "Here lies Aleister age 74, died a bachelor, always merry"? 
> >Aren't those epithets?
> 
> epitaphs.

A word queen?  *You*, dahwing?  No, no.  That can't be.  Not 
with such hard wittle abi-domals as yours.  

*X*
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From: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams)
Subject: FBI Report on 1991 Hate Crimes
Originator: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:45:37 GMT


According to articles in yesterday's (1/5/93) San Francisco
Examiner, and today's (1/6/93) New York Times, the first
annual report of hate crimes in the US, mandated by the 1990
Hate Crimes Statistics Act, has just been issued by the FBI.
Unfortunately, since law enforcement agencies reported to the
FBI only on a voluntary basis, and only 32 states participated
at all, the figures are almost meaningless.  The vast majority
of reported crimes were against African Americans, followed by
Jews.  The commonest crime was "intimidation," followed by
vandalism of property and assault.

Only five hate crimes were reported for all of California in
1991.  The report said 421 hate crimes (about 9% of the total)
were committed nationwide against gays and lesbians, though
the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force counted 1,001 in five
cities alone, and considers even that number to be only the
tip of the iceberg.
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From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Dworkin (was Re: Liberty)
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:57:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan5.115702.459
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Dec30.022903.4678@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec30.013604.8299@asuvax.eas.asu.edu>
>ra@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Starcap'n Ra) writes:
>
>>I'm sorry, but Dworkin is an idiot.  The world may well end
>>up being better off as a result of her having existed, and
>>she's interesting as an example of just how much the status
>>quo can detrimentally warp someone beyond any human
>>recognition, but that's another issue and beside the point:
>
>I don't think it *is* another issue or beside the point ...
>
>>she's still an idiot (unless she doesn't really believe in
>>what she spouts and is doing it for a calculated effect,
>>which I highly doubt).
>
>... if we examine all this rather excessive rhetoric we've
>been hearing about Dworkin.  If she were a run-of-the-mill
>idiot, as you (and others) claim, she would hardly merit the
>really quite vitriolic commentary her name is evoking in
>these hallowed corridors.
>
>I remind late-comers to the discussion that I've not read
>her own words, but irrespective of that, I'm not arguing
>that she's sane or insane, a sage or a fool.  Rather, that
>she *does* evoke this (what I see as an) outsized response;
>clearly, she's hit a raw nerve, and that nerve belongs
>overwhelmingly to men.  The inference is strong that men
>perceive her as *very* threatening.  Fools generally aren't
>(exceptions like Pat Robertson notwithstanding).

Camille Paglia and others have written about Dworkin's wranting, and
they are not men.  Granted, they are not MOTSS people either. There
are certainly waysof being a man-hating castrating bitch (I remember
seeing a teeshirt "castrating bitches have more fun") and writing well
and really getting the knife in deep and twisting, and I for one would
heartily enjoy reading such stuff. Male equivalents have long existed
in the erotic realm - Sade is an excellent example with the puppetlike
"Justine" as the eternal victim. Manhating is certainly present in
film, and it doesn't hit raw nerves. I think Sharon Stone in "Basic
Instinct" was, well, appreciated. Dworkin doesn't do it. It is useless
to argue about her subject matter; it is her style which is at fault.

As for powerless, I think support of, and creation of legislation to
prop up the goals of urban terrorism (TBTN et al in Minnesota) is
hardly powerless. Don't like the store? Smash it up.
-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: BAR Manners in Boston....
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:17:47 GMT

In article <C0Dy39.647@cs.vu.nl>, fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:
> You wimps. Real men drink from the bottle like in the leatherbars in
> the Warmoesstraat.
 
I thought they drank from the *hose* in the Warmoestraat :-)

> Of course, they will serve liquor in glasses. I mean, you try drinking
> gin 'n tonic from the bottle.
> 							FJ!!

Obviously you've never heard of
in-the-mouth Margharitas 

LUX ./. owen

--
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[ EU-PHORIA: A STATE OF WELL BEING ]
Euphoria is my natural state, I do what I enjoy and an abundance 
of all good fortune comes to me for it.
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Maria Montez vs Burl Ives, or Lighten Up a Little, Folks
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 03:58:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.152236.7433@osf.org>
coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.130259.11288@macc.wisc.edu>,
>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>> When I was a kid, you could ride the streetcar for that.

>Plus a lump of sugar for the horse?

A carrot, you fool!  That Nelson lied, the monster; he said
you were nice!  :-)

-- 
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From: ejp62@cas.org
Reply-To: ejp62@cas.org
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:33:31 EST
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In article <1993Jan11.215354.3183@osf.org>, coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
writes:
|> In article <1993Jan11.192914.10645@spdcc.com>, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
|> writes:
|> > Regarding the timing of different Pride events, I can see arguments for
|> > both sides: a collective single day has a certain potency (a distributed
|> > MOW as it were), but logistics may argue otherwise.
|> 
|> Since I'm not likely ever to be faced with a choice between SF and LA,
|> I don't much care what they do about the dates of their respective
|> parades, but I don't see why they have to have a pissing match about
|> it every year.

I have to agree.  In Ohio, Columbus, Cleveland and Cincinnati are only a few
hours apart, and all have Pride events in June.  There may not be perfect
communication and coordination between the three cities, but we know the last
weekend there will be a march in Columbus (the state capital, and located in the
center),  Cincinnatti will center its Pride events and march around the
third weekend, and Cleveland the 2nd weekend of June (or is that the other 
way around).  Making all three celebrations available for any one in the
state to attend without conflicting with the others, celebrating GLB pride the
entire month of June.
 
-- 
Ed Pfeiffer

Preferred E-mail:  ejp62@cas.org
Alternate E-mail:  ejp@sporty.col.oh.us

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From: Charlie Fulton <charlie@isis.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Capitalization (dubious MOTSS content)
Organization: Ctr for Advanced Rsrch in Oppressive Binarisms
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
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     <1993Jan5.043619.7026@gallant.apple.com>
     <1993Jan5.043726.7103@gallant.apple.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:07:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.040815.8238@syacus.acus.oz.au> Brent Davies,
brent@syacus.acus.oz.au writes:
>Think about this. What's the difference between these two sentences:
>
>"I'm from the city."
>
>"I'm from the City."
>
>In the second example, don't you immediately think of one and *only* one
>place that could possibly be being referred to?

New York City, of course.  New York State is divided into three
sections: "The City", "Lon Gisland" and "Upstate".

Charlie
From: brad@Apple.COM (Brad Zaller)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Gay-bashing (was: Re: Private...)
Date: 7 Jan 93 04:25:51 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>It's always been my feeling that anyone can call me anything
>at all.  I don't particularly care.  Sometimes I'll answer
>back, but usually I'll ignore them.

I was walking through the Castro last weekend, and walked past a Muni
bus stopped at a red light (at Market street).  Several young (read:
juvenile) black kids were hanging their heads out of the back window
of the bus and screaming "faggot", "queer" and other hateful diatribe
at passers-by, myself included.  They were making quite a scene, and I
simply tried to ignore them as I turned the corner, though I must admit
I was more than a bit incensed that we had to put up with this shit in our
own neighborhood.

Although I did nothing to retaliate, a friend that I later retold this story to
suggested that maybe I should have yelled back "nigger", in an attempt to
remind them of the hatefulness present in directed slurs like that.  Of course,
this would probably have had to been followed by the quickest quarter-mile
sprint that I've ever managed (in pumps, anyway)...

I was really uncomfortable with this idea, as I really am not one to
eagerly perpetuate hate or hateful messages.  But, at the same time, I was
pretty pissed that these young kids, who would ostensibly have had some
personal experience about what it's like to be oppressed, would so eagerly
and vehemently attack another class of people with such glee.  It boggles
my mind...

So, my question is, what would *you* have done in this situatation?


-- 
   Bradley C. Zaller  ::  Apple Computer, Inc.  ::  brad@apple.com

  "As she lay there dozing next beside me, a voice inside my head kept
   saying 'Relax. . . you're not the first doctor who's ever slept with
   one of his patients,' but another kept reminding me, 'Howard, you're
   a veterinarian.'"
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Maria Montez vs Burl Ives, or Lighten Up a Little, Folks
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 19:25:14 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1hm5m8INNfja@mizar.usc.edu> <1993Jan4.204218.4396@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
  <72896@cup.portal.com> <C0Dq0I.185@panix.com>

Mara Chibnik writes:
>Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
> >A more accurate way to frame my opinion is that anything Arne
> >says has a roughly 95% chance of being a whine.
>>Usually, a bitchy whine at that.
>  
>Where "bitchy" means exactly what, in this context?

Following in the absolutely worst stereotypes of screaming,
carping, nagging "female" behaviour.

As in the phrase "bitchy queen," a phrase Arne will probably
take as complimentary.

Since you bring it to my attention, I note that the usage has
distinct potential to offend; I will note this and try to do
better in the future.

 
() Old age is the most unexpected of all the things that
() happen to a man.
()      -- Leon Trotsky
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Stanford Shopping Center (was Re: Marky M. and Vanity Fair)
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:07:16 GMT
Organization: Xiola Blue

Scot N Gibson:

>And I can't even go in Max's anymore.  If I hear "Empty Chairs at
>Empty Tables" again, I'll draw blood.  

Oh, that's an easy one: give that nice woman at the piano (I forget her name
at the moment) five bucks and tell her to play Debussy for thirty minutes.
-- 
a flying squirrel is: richard@apple.com  Apple Computer Inc.

"Sex is a filter, and it admits a certain vision."  - William S. Burroughs
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From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: Different Strokes (was Re: Changing standards of female beauty)
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:39:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.230447.3166@macc.wisc.edu>, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.224802.16007@gordian.com>
> mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
> 
> >Not to butt into a perfectly good Jess-and-Steve-flames-because-its-
> >cold-in-winter, but...
> 
> Butting in?  Flames?  Nah.

  Well, maybe not flames but certainly a toasty little argument going
though. Sort of like a fireside chat, wouldn't you say?  :-)
-- 

		Michael Thomas	(mike@gordian.com)
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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Date: 5 Jan 1993 14:36:08 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1993Jan5.210309.14943@PacBell.COM> 
rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:

> On Arne's and Jojo's recommendations, I'll have to
> look out for Guerlain's Jicky -- though my Beloved has a bottle
> of their Eau Imperiale (is that right?) that I find quite
> noxious...

Jicky is quite different.  It's the first "modern" scent, and I
think of it sort of as a cool, elegant, utterly refined older sister
to Shalimar.  And though Eau Imperiale (I don't think that's quite
right, but I can't think what the right name might be) may be
"noxious", it does have a particularly nice bottle.  And what
is your Beloved doing wearing that?  Does he also like Bal a
Versailles?  White Shoulders?  Jungle Gardenia.  *Joy*?

Arne
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Maria Montez Again
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:15:32 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


Even temporary idleness does terrible things for the mind.
I was just sitting here, waiting for fresh coffee (I can't
even think the word "fresh" any more without seeing the
image of Jojo before my eyes), and suddenly remembered that
Maria Montez is the subject of one of these threads (the
makeup one?).

At the mention of 3-cent streetcar fares, my so-called mind
drifted back to the Knoxville Street car, which ran in front
of the Beverly Cinema, a half-block from my house (now a
Jewel supermarket) in horrible old Peoria.

There I was spellbound (sweet jesus, more than 50 years
ago!) by Maria Montez as Cobra Woman, with Jon Hall and
Turhan Bey.  I saw a clip of Jon Hall not long ago and
wondered how somebody so wimpy could ever have seemed so
heroic to me.  But my question, dear audience, is one that
probably only Arne or Howard could answer: I always thought
Turhan Bey was family.  Was he?

-- 
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