HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: ... lets contribute ot rit...
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:05:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.Bw8o9A.80K
Organization: Rice University


In article <1992Oct16.213946.9569@cs.wayne.edu>, uds@parvathi.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju) writes:


|> Those who have managed to get rit program :: how about increasing the list of
|> names and nouns in the file called `names' :: for example, I find it easier to
|> type chiranjeevi.  rather than ciranjeevi.  And similarly the ooru-pErulu.


Kishore said several times that `c' and `ch' *both* stood for the same sound
(unaspirated palatal affricate) in his software. So, you can as well type
in "chiranjeevi" and it'll be, by default, intepreted as "ciranjeevi". You
don't need to make any change in the "names" file for this purpose. Also, oo
is an alternative to uu and u' (for long u) in rit. So, I don't see what you
are saying.

Moreover, it looks like you probably misunderstood the "names" file. It just
contains some names which are left in English while coverting the text to
TeluguTeX format. For example, if you names file contains "Seetamraju",
whenever you write "Seetamraju", it'll be printed by the software in English
(it can be exploited in using LaTeX commands as well).

If you find it convenient to type something instead of something which is
supposed to be typed (there are alternatives though) the thing you have to do
is to add a relevant line to the file "simpword". The `names' file has
nothing to do with it.

A final appeal to you: stop posting all this stuff unless you really
understand what you're talking about. A personal mail to Kishore or Rama might
be fine, but you'll be confusing hundreds (or thousands) if you state something
wrong on the net (a classical example being your post giving rir on the net)
about the software.


|> Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
|> (email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)


No hard feelings Seetam, keep flooding the net :-), but think before you
post something about a software being developed by others.


PVR
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: shiva@b30.ingr.com (Shiva Shivakumar)
Subject: Re: What is this Tamil movie?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:11:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.211804.7218@ultb.isc.rit.edu> akn8257@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>In article <Bvt9nK.D6r@acsu.buffalo.edu>, ambati@acsu.buffalo.edu (Balamural K. Ambati) writes:
>>I need the name for a movie starring Amala, one of whose songs is:
>>
>>Kanuka nooru nilava, idhu oru kannava?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Balamurali K. Ambati
>>ambati@ubunix.buffalo.edu
>
>Movie: Vedam Pudidhu.
>
>The song is: Kannukkul nooru nilava..

When Sundara Pandian referred to the movie Swati Muthyam as Swati Mukyam in
telugu digest, one of the speakers of Baaradhi potriya sundara telungu asked
him "Why do you want to murder Telugu words, Mr.Pandian?" SP immediately
apologized.

I am glad that so far no Tamil (known for being fanatic, separatist and overly
touchy about his language) has said things like that.

Well, some of you may argue that by posting this, I have essentially done that.

Jagadisan (Naradhar) Shivakumar

PS : Sorry, Sundara Pandian for referring to this without your permission.
From: hermi@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Muslim Women Raped
Date: 7 Oct 1992 12:00:57 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shape.mps.ohio-state.edu

From zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!uicvm.uic.edu!u15231 Wed Oct  7 12:00:13 EDT 1992
Article: 14853 of soc.culture.iranian
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 23:09:43 CDT
From: <U15231@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Rape of Muslim Women

Subject: Rape of Muslim Women

From: BOSNET@math.msu.edu (Bosnian Electronic Network)
Organization: BOSNET (Bosnian Electronic Network)

Contribution by: SII


ALLEGATIONS OF SYSTEMATIC ASSAULTS ON MUSLIM WOMEN.  Western news
agencies on 2 October quoted Bosnian Serbian leaders as denying
recent media reports that their fighters are systematically raping
Muslim women, and military liaison officer Momo Starcevic promised
to punish any guilty parties.  On 25 September the Zagreb weekly
Globus reported on a particular incident in which 40 Muslim young
women from one village said they had been gang-raped by Serbs over
a period of several days. One of the men told them it was part of
a policy to wipe out the Muslim nation.  Globus further reported
that a team of UN gynecologists examined the women, confirmed
their stories, and concluded that such mistreatment appears to be
a "war strategy . . . [ordered] from the top." The story was not
corroborated, however.  (Patrick Moore, RFE/RL, Inc.)



Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: Poetry Request
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:49:10 GMT

ashraf@sce.carleton.ca (Ashraf Sharif Mahmoud) writes:

>I will be happy to do that? Just send me your arabic writing rules so
>that I would be able to write in the same language :-). Isn't this 
>from his last poem that he said when death became close while he was
>on his way back from Khurasan.

   Yes.
 
>As for the writing rules, I have a suggestion. Why don't we adopt the 
>ARABTEX rules. I think most (some) already know this version of writing.
>Another advantage is that you can easily obtain a really nice postcript 
>printed arabic text if you have an acess to ARABTEX.   

Why do not show us how easy it is (I mean to adopt those rules)?

>Regards, Ashraf.

By the way, you can send me a photocopy in person and post
the poem for the net!

My rules are as follows:

Consonants:
'    as in  'anta       not as in  you're
^    as in  ^alaa       not as in  on
*h   as in  *hayzaboon  not as in  hag
*d   as in  *dureer     not as in  blind
*g   as in  *gabiyy     not as in  goof
*k   as in  *kala^a     not as in  take away
*s   as in  *suwt       not as in  sound
*t   as in  qi*tt       not as in  cat
q    as in  tawuqquf    not as in  quit
_th  as in  _thaak          as in  that
*th  as in  *gulee*th   not as in  thick

Vowels:
u                           as in  up
uu                       as a  in  part
o                        as u  in  put
oo                          as in  soon
aa                       as a  in  man
--
*XX,_XX stands for *X*X, _X_X
" stands for ''

** "^urabiyyaa wil'u*sli shreef w bint i*ssu*hruu wi lwaadee"
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Earthquake in Cairo, Egypt
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:15:20 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1992Oct13.011548.2850@samba.oit.unc.edu> Hazem.Sharaf@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Hazem Sharaf) writes:
>There was an earthquake in Cairo, Egypt today at 3 PM. 300 were killed
>and 4000 were injured or these are the first estimates.

I heard on television that the death toll is up to 500.  It also said
that the government in Egypt said that the pyramids and sphinx were
not affected by the earthquake.  (If we can believe that this was
supposed to reduce the severity of the tragedy ... !)

>If anyone has more information, please post it.

We will probably read more accurate figures and descriptions when the
morning papers arrive tomorrow ...

Anisa
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Bulbul)
Subject: Re: Fair is fair: Jordan
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:42:30 GMT

osamakl@iastate.edu (Osama Al-Shaykh-Yousef) writes:

>Second, when he was a minister most of the country
>recognized his work. He was so active. He did an arguable 
>dicision that he allows black goats to get into young forests. 
>Other than that he and the others in that cabinet (the majority 
>in the parliment) did something most Jordanians recognized.

   I am sorry to be that ignorant, but I do not remember any
recognisable achievement other than failing to convict the
damned Zaid Rifae and his filthy gang, could you please remind
me? Of course, arresting Shbailat and others is not a
recognisable act unless you support "Zaidis."

>BTW, Jordan is recognized in the middle east for medicine. It is
>very rare to see this. I think this is very rare and personal. 
>My experience is much much differnet.

   That does not mean anything! My experience was good too,
mainly because I had friends everywhere I go, but I am relating
the average Jordanians' experience. Probably you would not
experience this in the Royal Medical Centre, but you find it
elsewhere.

>biladi win jarat 'alay 'azizaton
>               wa ahli wa in Danno 'alay kiramu

   Unfortunately, being not that socialisable, the word 
"homeland" is not defined in my dictionary. You call it your
homeland because you were born there? You could have been born
anywhere if your mother was there at the zero hour. You call it
your homeland because you lived there? Other people lived else-
where, so what? And more importantly, this is biased and if you
do not know I do my best not to be biased to even myself.

>Law kanat bard bidi mawtini yablo*go ssimaak wi ysibni muzanab wala
>aDalni taHt alaKdam wi y*sebni alTeen we BS.

   Gool lil*gajar illee bisba*hoo feena ta*hti l'ar*d.

>WaTani law Shu*giltu bil b'ud anhu
>           Naza'tni ilayhi bil Khuldi nafsi
>                                  -- Ahmad Shawki
   By the way,
   "Hab jannata l*koldi lyaman    laa shay'a ya^dilo lwa*tan"
                                    -- Ahmad Shawqi

And also, if you care about your homeland you do not leave it
to dirty bastards and just praise their wrongdoing. People DIE
for their homelands, NOT LOWER their heads and IGNORE the wrong.


** "Ma fee galbee *hobb    *ger *hobbik ya baladee
    wlaa yirta*hi lgalb    illa b'ar*dik ya baladee
    yaa 'ar*di l*hinniyya   yaa shamsi l*horriyya
                yaa *hilwa yaa baladee"
                                        From a Lybian Song

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: haha
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:36:30 GMT

ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu (Asher Shamam) writes:

#Q :what's the difference between a palestinean and a bucket of
#camel shit ?
#
#A : the bucket

And how did Mr. Shamam finally learn to wear his underpants in
the right way?

-The yellow side in the front, the brown side in the back.

haha.

-Danny Keren.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: najem@dante.cs.uiuc.edu (Ziad Najem)
Subject: Re: PAL-NET
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:41:20 GMT


to subscribe to P-NET, send a message to
palestine-net-request@mcs.kent.edu  

To post, send to palestine-net@mcs.kent.edu.


 - Ziad
   najem@cs.uiuc.edu





martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo) writes:

>I received the following question via e-mail.

>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 21:13 EDT
>From: John Sununu <RENGLE@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>
>Subject: Pal-Net
>To: martillo@nero.clearpoint.com
>X-Vms-To: IN%"martillo@nero.clearpoint.com"
>X-Vms-Cc: RENGLE

>Hello,..
>I was wondering if you knew the internet address for
>Pal-Net,.. the Palestine Users group/Discussion group?

>Bob
>Thanks



>-- 
>Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami

>The article represents noone's opinions other than the author's.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Bulbul)
Subject: Re: Is SEX work or pleasure (joke)
Organization: Carleton University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:25:52 GMT

   In my follow-up about this, I forgot to mention the other
side of the coin.

mazuair@rodan.acs.syr.edu writes:

>    Thats why you shipped the Arab mujahideen to their 
>countries, specially Algerians, who were arrested  as soon as 
>they entered their countries, clean your house first.

   This is counterproductive. That Pakis are not good is no
excuse for Saudis or others to be dirty. Also Zuair assumes that 
Zafar is the head of the Paki system or something.

>zuair

   Countries have to take some measures. The information that
got to me is that Pakis (and maybe others) go to SA with
counterfeit passports. Also many times, Saudis caught Pakis
with counterfeit Saudi State stamps and so on. Every time
they expel some Paki, he returns the next time with another
name and passport!

   In general, due to many factors, the increase of foreigners
in a country drive crime rates ski high. I know about this in
Jordan. After the return of many workers and refugees from
Kuwait you may want to prefer living in Harlem St. to living
in Jordan. Some crimes were invinted in Jordan in the recent 
couple of years.


** Wa laa tanaaza^oo fatafshaloo wa ta_thhaba ree^hokom.
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: PAL-NET
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:52:41 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <11257@crackers.clearpoint.com> martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo) writes:

>I received the following question via e-mail.
>
>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 21:13 EDT
>From: John Sununu <RENGLE@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>
>Subject: Pal-Net

...

Say, Joachim, is that *the* John Sununu (who is of course of 
Lebanese descent)?  (Did anyone else notice this famous
name?) I haven't heard what he has done since he left
the White House, except that he was playing Perot in helping
Bush prepare for the debates last week.

--
Dave Bakken                               Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu
Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4098      
Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
From: mazuair@rodan.acs.syr.edu ()
Subject: Re: Is SEX work or pleasure (joke)
Organization: Syracuse University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 13:31:47 EDT

 This applies to all non Saudi residents 

>he still can not walk the streets with out being 
>called majnoon. His children (my cousins) are not allowed to stay in the 
=================
This is a pure lie, they are called (sadig whic means friend)

>In another case, another one of my uncles passed away, His wife was given
>3 weeks to get all of her papers to get out of the country. This is the 
>treatment of what happened to my family, however the racism that caused this
>sort of treatment is typical. You may say that these are gulf Arabs and they
>are not good people, however similar laws exists in all Arab countries and
>similar attitudes as well. With maybe the exception of Algeria and Sudan,

    Thats why you shipped the Arab mujahideen to their countries, specially
    Algerians, who were arrested  as soon as they entered their countries,
    clean your house first.

>all of the laws and attitudes are similar. You might not be racist when you
>are here but what happens to you (not you personally) when you go back to 
>the old country?
>
>something to think about 
>
>zafar
>
>
zuair

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.wanted.moslem.gay
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: haha
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:24:36 GMT


   I suggest we just ignore offensive contentless posts, save
ourselves efforts and time. As time goes on worthless people
learn to save their efforts and times too, when they find it
futile.

   I regret violating this consail (whatever this means) in my
recent post.

** "law koLo kalbin ^awA 'alqamtahO .hajarA
        la'u.sbu.ha .Su.kro mithqAlan bidInArI"

** "lA ya.doRo Sa.hAba nab.ho lkilAb."


Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Bulbul)
Subject: Phony Scholars
Summary: And the Bulbul series continues
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:23:06 GMT

Do you guys remember the Beard Parade when the thickest Beards
of "Muslim World" that oil aroma could attract gathered in Mecca
(?) to discuss the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait? They resolved (among
other equally hypocritical resolutions) that it was a religious
obligation for EVERY Muslim individual to fight Iraq. From the
fact that those Beards did not fight Iraq themselves, it is
concluded that they did not consider themselves Muslims which
is one of the very few honest things they've ever done. It
never crossed illieterate Muslims' minds that non-Muslims are
not allowed to issue religious resolutions.

   For God's sakes, Mr. Beard, behave it or shave it!

Of course in Bagdad another group of equally thick beards 
gathered  and issued contradictory resolutions and each group
supported their resolutions by an endless list of verses and
hadiths. And some people dare to say that Islam is a bigoted
religion! Where else can Beards (or any other body parts, e.g.
Bums) support their every whim by an endless list of scripture 
quotes?

   I have the urge to ask Beards this question. What is Islam's
position on a guy who gathers all those Beards and passes them
through a poultry plucking machine? I hope he is not an infidel
as usual.

   The funny thing though was that in Jordan some people could
recognise the picture of King Hussain and Saddam engraved in
the moon (were optical glasses that expensive?) Thank God they
did not know La Cicciolina or otherwise they would have 
recognised her too.

** "Man 'uraada 'an ta*toola li*hyatoh, falyomashshi*tahaa min
    'asfal."
                                            Old Persian Proverb


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From: benali@alcor.concordia.ca ( ILYESS B. BDIRA )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: the  "(joke)" and our pathetic attitude
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:52:44 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Distribution: na

minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas) writes:

>As much as I hate characterizations based on race (racism) I would have to 
>agree on this one. Though it is a joke, this is the attitude I have seen
>from Arabs about what they think about poor Ajamis (non-Arabs) they like to
>use words like majnoon and fakir to label us and then tell us that that
>they were joking or that those words mean things like "friend" or "comrade".
>Oh well racism is all over the place.

I do not believe you at all when you say that you hate characterizations
based on race..
First of all the joke could in the worst  case be a reflection of the 
attitudes of a minority among the
rich GULF ARABS who are less than 15 millions out of 200 million Arabs.
The vast majority of Arabs (people from north Africa, Yemen, Sudan and even
Egypt) probably never saw a person from Pakistan (I haven't until
I came to the U.S 11 years ago)..

I do not blame you nor do I blame the guy who sent the corny joke, 
all I can say that we Arab and nonArab Muslims have a lot of good and
bad things in common, and you both remind me of one bad one.
(Hint, see the title).

>sincerely
I know you are sincere in your attack on Arabs..
Can you be sincere in refuting all forms of Nationalism and Racism and
refusing to react to provocations (or what seem to you as provocations) by
a Two-eyes-two-arms-and-a-leg-for-an-eye attitude?

I guess the above paragraph should explain what I meant by pathetic attitude.
From: merigh@cpac.washington.edu (Mohamed Merigh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Reason vs. Morals
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:29:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: bailey.MERIGH.92Oct15072957
	<1992Oct15.105326.5143@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
Organization: Univ. of Washington, Seattle


eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:

>   ISLAM uses reason not desire to set rules(moral), based on human nature.
>
>   : 2. Women must adhere to certain dress codes, while men don't.
>
> The sexual desires for man and women are different. In fact a lot of ancient
> cultures that rely on "reason" have different dress codes for men and women,
> the women are more strict.

    You should have continued: and that is so because men are more 
"reason"-able and women more emotional...

    It seems to me that reason would incite men to exercise self-control
rather than impose a dress code on women.

    So, what does Islam say about self-control-- is it in "human nature"?
Can men be expected to have some of it?

Moh&
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: haha
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:49:54 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Oct14.011135.8830@math.ucla.edu> ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu (Asher Shamam) writes:
>Q :what's the difference between a palestinean and a bucket of
>camel shit ?
>
>A : the bucket

Why did you post something that you knew would be deeply offensive
and inflamatory?

And if you are going to insult people, you might try to conjure up some
minimal level of wit, so your clever insult proves beyond a doubt that 
your IQ is higher than your age.  I think that the literary depth of the
above riddle, great as it is, left many in doubt.
--
Dave Bakken                               Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu
Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4098      
Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Bulbul)
Subject: Return of Democracy
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:38:48 GMT

[Due to system problems this post is a bit late.]

Voice of Kuwait International: Thompson: Return of democracy to
Kuwait will get Kuwait closer to the west.

   His Highness may apply henna to his high-born behind to
celebrate this. Also, he never knows if someone wants to kiss 
it (or do it) after all.

   Does His Highness dream that American punks and drugaholics
may raise his picture? "Da bo^doh!" The best thing he can get is printing His Highness' pictures on ***let paper so that all
Americans may enjoy his appreciative kiss.


** Kiss butt. Just do it. Tike.

** "Alaa `inna *ki*duuba nnisaa'i l*hinnaa'o wa *ki*duuba 
    rrijaali ddimaa'."
                       A woman in favour of Ali i. a. Talib


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From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.wanted.moslem.gay
Subject: Re: haha
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:00:11 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1992Oct15.190702.1044@netcom.com> rdc@netcom.com (MR. COMMUNIST) writes:
>
>I think it's safe to assume the the Asher Shamam left his computer
>account logged in and walked away, and someone else entered the post.

Why do you assume that it is safe to think this?

>There is no need to continue this thread.

Then why did you?

>This is not productive:
>
>>FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!

Nor is the other ascinine and obnoxious comment.

Is there any other response you could have delicately made?

And where does the Communist Party exist anyway?

Anisa
From: 92awad@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: try to post
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:00:44 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

This is just a try.  


Sami
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: ashraf@sce.carleton.ca (Ashraf Sharif Mahmoud)
Subject: Re: Poetry Request
Organization: /usr/local/organization
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:04:22 GMT

In article <nabeel.718487350@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan) writes:
>
>By the way, you can send me a photocopy in person and post
>the poem for the net!
>
 
I have an idea, why don't I come to your office and give the ARABTEX rules and
the poem as well? Because it is only now that I noticed that you are in the 
same school and department as I am. What a chance ...



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