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From: hamster@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Far And Away LD (Was: Would you pay to see it...)
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Date: 21 Jan 93 22:03:44 AEDT
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In article <1jjiheINN185@ginger.csv.warwick.ac.uk> esury@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr A J Smaller) writes:

> I'm not sure there's much point in seeing older stuff like Citizen
> Kane in the cinema anyway - we projected it recently and it's only in
> Academy (I think?) ratio anyway, i.e. about the same ratio as a TV
> screen. And its mono, so you're gaining neither a wider picture nor
> more realistic sound.

Mmm, but you do - with a good print - get to see more detail and depth in
the image when it is projected.

> Now in the case of wide, expansive movies such as 2001, Thelma &
> louise, Far & Away, Dances With Wolves, ideally with Dolby SR sound as
> well, the cinema is *infinitely* superior to video, even if its
> letterboxed. Mind you, in the case of 2001, I suppose it depends how
> well-thumbed your print is. Ours was terrible at the reel-changes.

So was the "Brand New 70mm Print" that turned up in Australia a couple of
years ago.

On a slightly different angle, has anyone noticed that the laserdisc of
"Far And Away" says that the film "is presented in an aspect ratio of
2.35:1, the aspect ratio of the original 35mm print"? Methinks somebody
screwed up here, whether at the transfer stage or the artwork stage. I
haven't seen the disc, so I can't comment, but those with an eye for these
things will remember that "Far And Away" was shot on 65mm film, and the
primary release prints were on 70mm. Why not transfer from that, guys?

What makes me wonder is how they achived a 2.35:1 aspect ratio on the disc
from a film which was shot at 2.2:1?

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From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Looking for
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:17:58 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
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Summary: Re: Looking for "Whiter Shad of Pale"

In article <1993Jan19.161401.10479@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:
> In article <1993Jan19.114920.21888@discus.technion.ac.il> ronenp@tiger5.technio
> n.ac.il (Ronen Perets) writes:
> >    The first part of "New-York Stories" (by Martin S.) is
> >about a painter that his girlfriend leaves him... The film begins when
> >the painter puts a cassette and plays it and there's a great song playing.
> >Does any body know which song is it and where can I find it (disk, album), and
> >the words of the song ?
> 
>   You probably mean WHITER SHADE OF PALE.  There is also a great scene with 
> Nolte painting as he listens to the great live version of Dylan's LIKE A 
> ROLLING STONE.


The song "Whiter Shade of Pale" is by Procol Harum.. circa 1971 from the
album entitled "Conquistador"....

It is quoted in "The Committments".....
      "We skipped(or tripped) the light fandango.
	Turned cartwheels across the floor..
	I was feeling kinda seasick..
	When the crowd called out for more"

A Great song... from a tremendous album.... should not talk to much about
this.... this is not alt.rock-n-roll...

Coz...



	"Their faces burst just ghostly.....turned a Whiter
		shade of pale..."
From: jjdti@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.D.Tilander)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: S & E Memo to the Academy
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:38:29 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <C1FIM8.77L@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney) writes:


The movie S&E are referring to is "One False Move" I think.  Have not seen it.
-- 
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From: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Analysis of movies
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:38:49 GMT
Reply-To: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1993Jan21.122748.17499@ugle.unit.no> borud@solan.unit.no (Bj|rn Borud) writes:


>My GF is going to write a paper on a movie (any movie) but she hasn't got
>the time to do that. Is there anyone out there that has a good article
>about some movie. An article that that could pass as an analysis of
>the movie.


This is interesting.  Just what has your GF been doing instead of writing
her own papers?  Asking other people to prepare her defense of plagiarism
charges?


Murray
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From: warejd@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Who from Poltergeist is now dead?
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:02:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbeh.1993Jan27.140208.2585
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1k0covINNej2@phakt.usc.edu>, jameskau@phakt.usc.edu (James Kaufman) writes:
> In article <1993Jan24.212630.1503@bradley.bradley.edu> guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan) writes:
>>	I was BSing with a friend recently and claimed that a lot
>>of the cast from the original Poltergeist film have died.  But
>>I didn't really know who, so could someone who knows post a list
>>of who's dead, what character they played and how/when they died?
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>``written by a drunken insane pathological liar''        guru@stasi.bradley.edu
> 
> 
> 
> I remember Heather O'Rourke (the little They're Here girl) died a few years 
> ago (she was only 12).  Some illness.  The other daughter, Dominique Donne
> (daughter of a famous novelist) was stranged by her boyfriend before that.
> The Indian guy, Will Sampson (the guy from Cuckoo's Nest) also is dead.  And
> I think there's one more, but I forgot who.  
> 
> James Kaufman
> jameskau@scf.usc.edu
> 
  

  I think the old man who played the cult preacher from parts 2 and 3 also died
recently.

Jeff Ware
warejd@ucbeh.uc.san.edu
From: douga@yang.earlham.edu (Doug Atkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Rising Sun
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:19:19 GMT
Organization: The Lion of Serrea

In article <00966F32.9EC42120@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 9072falkk@vms.csd.mu.edu (Kathy Falk) writes:
> I swore I saw a trailer for this film with Sean Connery playing the role
> of Conner.  Any news on a release date for this one?  Any word on other 
> members of the cast?
	I understand Tia Carrere is in it, but that's all I can remember.
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From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Re: What's going on in the world (as far as film receipts go)?
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 10:45:35 GMT

In article <BRUNNOCK.93Jan24174635@ministry.cambridge.apple.com> brunnock@cambridge.apple.com (Sean Brunnock) writes:
>
>I am inundated with news regarding box office receipts in the USA
>and I'm sick of it. Hollywood is home to the third largest film 
>industry in world. The top two are Hong Kong and Bombay.

Number of movies is one thing, worldwide distribution another.

>What is the rest of the world watching? I believe that _A Few Good Men_
>was the first film to be released simultaneously around the world.

No, "1492" came earlier and I guess there have been others.

>How did it do in other countries?
>If I want to see what the top films in the USA are, I can read the
>Boston Globe, Billboard, or clari.news.movies . What can I read
>to see what's going on around the world?

You can read "Variety". They list top ten movies from USA, Europe, Japan...
Hollywood movies are everywhere and usually on top. What a surprise....
								M.H.
From: dhs@cs.utexas.edu (Douglas H. Steves)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Summary of American Moving Image Archivists screening, 12/8/93
Date: 24 Jan 1993 11:20:19 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: abyssinian.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: AMIA, film restoration and archival

In article <1993Jan24.071916.10547@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
> ... David Packard's Stanford theatre
>(the nicest movie theater on the face of the earth in appearance,
>restoration and choice of viewing matter, as far as I'm concerned; it's one
>of the two things I would move up from the Bay area to Seattle if I could)
  "      "      "      "      "      "     "     "      Austin      "     "

>Palo Alto is lucky to have the Stanford, and David Packard.
Agreed.
A few months ago I went to the Paramount here in Austin to see An
American in Paris - they actually cropped the top and bottom of
the picture! Tonight I'm going to take a chance and go there to
see Blade Runner and A Clockwork Orange - I hope they don't pan/scan 
them.

Doug
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From: edm@gocart.twisto.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Dead Rats, was The Abyss .. again
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp
	<SYNTH.93Jan27215043@deepthought.unm.edu>
	<1993Jan28.140227.6215@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:11:52 GMT

>>>>> On 28 Jan 93 14:02:27 GMT, bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) said:
...stuff deleted to save space...

RC> Yes, but there are contradictory posts. To me, the most interesting part is,
RC> 1) how did they do it if they didn't kill any rats
RC> and
RC> 2) how did they get away with it if they did.

Once again, in case you missed it, here's James Cameron on the subject:
==========
"We actually did that for real on the set.  We picked up some of
the 3M fluorocarbon emulsion, heated it up to rat body temperature and
did the scene.  The rat struggled for a few seconds and bubbles came out
of his mouth and then he started to swim - breathing liquid!  And you
see it on the screen.  The rat was fine - but obviously when it came
time for Ed Harris to breath the same stuff, we simulated it."
===========
from Cinfex, issue 39, a special issue dedicated to the making of 
_The Abyss_.

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From: anguilla@acpub.duke.edu (Hunganh Nguyen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Who killed D.Keaton in "...Mr. Goodbar"
Date: 23 Jan 93 07:52:18 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


	In the film "Looking for Mr. Goodbar," it was TOM BERENGER of 
"Platoon" and  "At Play in the Field of the Lord" fame who killed
Diane Keaton at the end.  Richard Gere was just a semi-boyfriend.
From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:35:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.

In article <BD.93Jan24084258@bd.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>
>>I hate to break this to you, but there *ARE* an incredible number of
>>stupid people in the world.  I have had people stand in front of a
>>marquee (with large easy-to-read numbers) and ask me what time the next
>>showing was.
>
>Yes, there *are* some stupid people out there, but your example
>is a bad one.  Since there is often considerable variance between
>the marquee time and the actual starting time, to ask theatre
>personel when a movie is going to start is not unreasonable
>regardless of how big the sign with the times is.

Maybe at your theatre, Bruce, assuming you work/worked at one -- but
not at mine.  The time posted is the time the movie starts.  IMO,
doing other wise is silly and just plain bad business.
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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: laserdisc questions
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:08:40 GMT

In article <C1F7IB.79s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bzb47596@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phaedrus (B.Z.Buehler)) writes:
>I am a avid movie fan and am considering purchasing a laserdisc player, and
>I have a couple of questions.

I have responded via e-mail.  For others with similar questions, you
might want to look/post in rec.video and rec.video.releases.  Lots
of laserdisc fans hang out there.

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From: anish@ctt.bellcore.com (Anish Bhimani)
Subject: Re: Where's the director?
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, New Jersey
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:50:49 GMT

I don't think anyone's mentioned Sydney Pollack as George Fields (Michael / Dorothy's agent) in _Tootsie_.


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From: charlie@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Charlie Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:29:58 GMT
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications, Cambridge, UK

Schwarzenegger as a lineless heavy (it's pretty easy to miss him) in
_The Long Goodbye_

Charles
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From: patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney)
Subject: Re: Seconds
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:59:17 GMT
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: >Ob wierd films:
: >
: >_Seconds_ (John Frankenheimer, 1966: Rock Hudson, in a film about
: >"mistaken identity" which is not a sex comedy with Doris Day and which
: >resonates interestingly and touchingly after his death.)
: >
: 
: 
: Not really mistaken identity - more like changed identity...
: 

"Seconds" was a great film, with some good performances particularly
from Will Geer, and the actor who played Rock Hudson before the
surgical transformation... can't think of his name offhand, but I heard
a rumour that he had been blacklisted back in the 1950's and that
Frankenheimer was the first director with the courage to give him a
job. The fellow who introduced Rock to the outfit was good too...
can't think of his name either. Nice photography by James Wong Howe;
the scenes with the fisheye lens were very effective I thought. I
heard another rumour that James Wong Howe, who always worked in an
immaculate white suit, refused to get into the vat to shoot the
subjective, hand-held grape stomping shots which obliged Frankenheimer
to strip down to a posing pouch and do it himself.

The same year that "Seconds" was released in England, a Japanese film
called "The Face of Another", on an identical theme, was included in
the London Film Festival. It too was very good, but even darker than 
the American film and much scarier. Has anyone heard of this?

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From: fogel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brenda Fogel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Who from Poltergeist
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:34:17 GMT
Reply-To: fogel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brenda Fogel)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.arts.movies, kilborn@iastate.edu (Scott E Kilborn) writes:
>In <302510d29@ofa123.fidonet.org> Jay.Majer@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
>














>

>>--- Maximus 2.01wb
>
>I just saw this last weekend and I was wondering if she died before
>it was done.  In the final scene, when they all come back to "this side"
>they never show Heather O'Rourke's face.  They just show a back view of
>her Aunt holding her, and it looks like she has much shorter hair than
>she did earlier in the movie (possibly a stand-in after she had died??)
>Also, does anyone remember what she (Heather) actually died from.  Her
>whole face was swollen up really bad in III, but I can't remember what
>she actually had. (My girlfriend and I watched all three back to back
>this weekend).
>
>-Scott Kilborn (kilborn@iastate.edu)

     She had a bowel problem, that if her parents had taken her to the
  doctor sooner she would still be alive.
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From: grosch@rtsg.mot.com (Joe Grosch)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:52:35 GMT

In article <1jpseuINNef6@shelley.u.washington.edu> grantham@stein.u.washington.edu (Henry Grantham) writes:
>grosch@rtsg.mot.com (Joe Grosch) writes:
>
>>It my understanding that the reason you don't see El Topo is because
>>some lawyer, who's name ecapes me right now, owns the rights to it 
>>and for so reason refuses to allow it to be shown or transfered to
>>video tape. I think this guy represented the Beatles when they were
>>breaking up but don't quote me on it.
>
>	At my local video store, they have EL TOPO and THE HOLY MOUNTAIN
>in both VHS and LASERDISC formats.
>

I stand corrected. Thank you. Now I know what this weekends viewing will be. 

Josef

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From: spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Are distributors stupid?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:33:30 GMT

Sorry about the offensive subject line... I just wanted to ask a question
about something that bothers me. I don't mean to imply that anyone (except
me) is stupid.

  It's an unfortunate fact that most good/small/non-mainstream/foreign/etc
films don't get very wide releases in the US. It seems that producers/dis-
tributors/whoever-makes-these-decisions claim that such films don't make
any money. But when you look at box-office reports that are broken down by
earnings per location, these films often outrank the current blockbusters.
Sure, A FEW GOOD BATMEN HOME ALONE WARS 7 brings in more money than the
art films, but then again, it's playing in every dang theater. But it's
only earning $2-5K per location, whereas some good small films rake in
upwards of $10k per location. The catch is, these small films are showing
in only 1 out of 100 theaters, thus allowing the bigwigs to confirm their
own suspicions that such films aren't profitable.

   So what I want to know is why many good films aren't more widely 
distributed. Does it really cost that much to churn out and release a 
bunch more prints of a film? I would guess that, up to a point, the 
increase in profits would offset the added expenses. Granted, I don't
expect all films to be able to sustain as wide a release as ROBO ACT,
but the point of equilibrium for these films should/could/might be much
higher than some executives would expect.

   Anyway, I don't know anything about how films are distrubuted, so I 
welcome any attempts to clear this up for me. Thanks in advance for
any e-mail or posted info....

-Matt
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: question on Tony Scott
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:36:30 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1993Jan27.115926.9849@aston.ac.uk>, thompsmr@uhura.aston.ac.uk 
(Mark Thompson) writes:

> :    Tony Scott is Ridley's brother and directed the awesome "The Hunger",
> : right? Is this the same Tony Scott who directed "Top Gun" and "Days of
> : Thunder". It can't be! Tell me it isn't true. Please?

> 	One and the same man. It amazes me that these two people are related
> when you look at how different their films are.

You obviously don't have a brother close in age.  I do...we are like day and
night.  We would make movies that were completely different.  (If we were film
makers that is)  Styles of creativity are not genetic.

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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Video(tape) A Swindle
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:35:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.155822.10438@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> jwimp@mcs.drexel.edu (Jet Wimp) writes:
>
>     Another private pet peeve of mine: I think viodetape is one of  our
>civilization's great current swindles.  It allows people to think they
>have seen a film when they really haven't seen it.  In fact, watching a
>film on videotape is like eating an ice cream cone with a cold.  Poeple
>truly interested in film should get involved in film societies that show
>films where they belong: on a movie screen.

The downside is that video is cutting short the time films appear in a
theater.  And a frightening aside, from what Siskel and Ebert said on
a recent program, many people voting on the Academy Awards will be seeing
the films on video -unclear whether this is to refresh their memories
or whether, for some, it is the only way they will see some films.

The upside is that video lets people like myself (not residing in NY
or LA or Seattle and an hour away from decent movie houses) study films
to an extent never possible before.  But it only whets my appetite
to see films on the big screen.  To pursue your analogy, if the ice
cream tastes good when I have a cold it stimulates me to taste it again
under better conditions.

And, seeing films on laserdisc is an improvement over videotape though
still a far cry from the theater.


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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike")
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:11:10 GMT

	I know that he isn't a big actor, but Robert Patrick
was a generic terrorist in Die Hard II.
	How about Jack Nicholson in the original "Little Shop
of Horrors" from 1962?
From: jmw3c@Virginia.EDU ("Eddie Vedder")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: THE FIRM (Who's in it?)
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:39:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: Virginia.1993Jan27.023925.26595
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

Jeanne Tripplehorn is cast to play Mitch's wife Abby from what
I read in People magazine a couple months ago.
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