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From: usdrew@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Shawn Drew)
Subject: Re: Emulatin' the GS s'more, mon
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:11:56 GMT

In article <TOMSTER.92Dec15181113@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> tomster@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Thomas Richard Dibble) writes:
>...
>Kinda off the subject, but it seems I heard somewhere that the
>Powerbooks are manufactured by Sony, in Japan.
>

Actually, only the discontinued (I think) PowerBook 100 was manufactured
by Sony.  The other models (140, 145, 170, 160, 180) are made by Apple.

The PB 160 that I'm using right now says it was "Assembled in USA"..
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  OS/2 vs Win NT
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:27:41 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec13.172708.2107@nmsu.edu> <1992Dec14.193022.16527@microsoft.com>

>On this slide was listed development for Sun, NeXT and Amiga. Too bad, IMHO.
>Bill managed to neglect what I consider to be the three finest desktop
>platforms avaialble.

Well, in the case of the NeXT, isn't he in a constant ego battle with
Steve Jobs over who is the most "important.

P.S. Tell Bill I have some 7-11 coupons I'm not using if he want them.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:31400 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:3338 alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2:117 alt.sex.motss:2010 alt.flame:16721 alt.exploding.kibo:661
From: irie@husc11.harvard.edu (Robert E. Irie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2,alt.sex.motss,alt.flame,alt.exploding.kibo
Subject: Re: Emulatin' the GS s'more, mon
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:31:00 GMT
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com's message of 14 Dec 92 19:59:38 GMT

In article <Bz9M7E.7nK@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:

   >Well, its damn hard to take pride in a nameless clone from Taiwan...

   Instead of a named rehash from Japan?

hmmm I dont think Apple II's were designed and built in Japan..

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap)
Subject: Re: Power-up for AGA Machines! rumour.
Organization: Andrews University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:30:55 GMT

In article <71644@cup.portal.com> spiercy@cup.portal.com (Scott Kelly Piercy) writes:
>my dealer told me (and I used to work for him, so I can trust him, although
>I always have doubts of his C= source, simply because I know C= all
>too well) that C= will release an AMIGA next year (he said the time frame
>was about 4 months from now) that contains the DEC ALPHA processor.  
>Totally speculation at this point however
>

Speculation, superstition, whatever...
I highly doubt this. I say it's 99.999999999999999999999% false

>
>spiercy (spiercy@cup.portal.com)

Notice I left some room for error. I would not call it error.  I would call
it wishful thinking :)

Edsel
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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  OS/2 vs Win NT
Distribution: world
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:03:15 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <1992Dec16.154144.12187@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>Rick Kelly (root@rkamiga.UUCP) wrote:
>:
>: If Microsoft is going to do NT for big endian processors, they would have to
>: rewrite a lot of kernel routines.
>:

>Have you actually seen these routines?  How can you make such statements
>without really knowing anything about it?

1.  It's common knowledge in comp.arch and comp.sys.intel.

2.  I spoke to someone who has access to NT sources.

I really can't say anymore than that.

> If I was offered NT for free for the Amiga, I would take the disks and
>: reformat them for something else.

>Wow.  I guess some people are ignorant, and wish to remain that way.

I guess you haven't seen the October Beta NT release crashing and burning.
That's the release that the Microsoft people say is extremely stable.

I have no interest in Windows 3.1.  Note that NT will be sold as 
Windows 3.1 NT.

>: NT is for people who believe everything they read in glossy ads, and in
>: articles written by writers who get wined and dined by Microsoft.

>Yeah, right.  And AmigaDOS is for people who think they are smarter than
>everyone else.

I have been involved with UNIX for over a decade.  I use Intel boxes to run
UNIX at this time.  NT can't give me anything that UNIX doesn't already
have, and in fact, it is missing a large amount of stuff that would allow it
to be a replacement for UNIX.

Microsoft will do anything and say anything to sell NT, because if OS/2
makes it, they will be in serious trouble.

I know people who are using OS/2 on mixed networks with UNIX systems, with
TCP/IP, NFS, and X-11.  Within that network, you can telnet to a OS/2 box
from a UNIX box and run OS/2 apps in an X window, and vice versa.


--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: dleland@dante.nmsu.edu (LELAND)
Subject: Rock em' sock em' posters 
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:42:30 GMT

HEY KIDS! BORED WITH YOUR TOYS? TIRED OF THOSE OLD GI JOE DOLLS?
SICK OF BARBIE? NEED MORE BLOOD THAN YOU CAN CHOKE IN?

Want a pair of REAL violence toys? Want some toys that get up and really
slug it out?

LOOK NO FURTHER!  BLAMMO PRODUCTIONS NOW INTRODUCE THE:

       ROCKEM' MARC BARRETT VS THE SOCKEM' SKIP SAULS!!!!!!!

Watch em' punch each other! Watch them roast each other! Watch them call each
other names! Watch them draw blood! Watch them hit each other over the heads
with old broken A1000!!! Watch them take cheap shots at each other! Just pull 
their strings and.....


>>>>>>>I DIDN'T CALL YOU A (*(^%(*&^(^&%&%!!! I CALLED YOU A &^&^%^#(&(!!!
>>>>>There are 23.893 Megacycles you ^*&^&%&$%^&*&^&&%$!!!!!!!
>>>NO I said you were a &(&^%&%*&^*&^*&!!
>>>>345 meg HD, 300 meg of RAM and a wash and rinse spin cycle should be standar
>>>>>>>40,00000 Commodore dealers in just the last five minutes!!!!!
>>>>>er with a watermelon, grapefruit, and lime jello! And then I'm going to
>>>>>our mother, your dog, your uncle Fred, and my cousin Sam and throw them a
>>>>>Mother Teresa didn't, Attila the Hun didn't, Elvis didn't, COMMODORE Should!
>>>>>>Amiga AAAAA chipset in less than five minutes because you can't even 
>>>>>Irving gould's bank account to swim in deeper than a



DOESN'T THAT SOUND LIKE FUN KIDS!!!!! Buy them NOW! Only $24.95 and five pieces
of C= stock! (cheap!) Hurry! All proceeds go to the Irving Gould fund for
overweight wallets!


Lighten up guys! Jeez!
Oh, and Merry Christmas to both of you. Really.


Queen of Swords

Darrell Leland
dleland@nmsu.edu
From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Help me not to change computers!
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:26:50 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

Star Trek 25th Anniversary
'>   The original IBM version suffered enormously from the fact that it came on
'>20 or so disks.  

	Does it really matter how many floppies the PC version came on?  It
   was a HD only game anyways, so you only had to load them in once.

		                                        Greg Greene
                                                        ggg@kepler.unh.edu


'>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
From: jfriesne@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dan flipped through an AmigaWorld, and:
Date: 13 Dec 92 08:08:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Dec13.061730.28161@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>And another thing (yeah, really): I cannot BELIEVE some Amigans knock the
>OS/2 2.0 WorkPlace Shell after seeing WB2.0.  Good grief.  I would assume that
>the Amiga pictures were trying to look as good as possible -of course.
>
>Really, OS/2 2.0's WorkPlace Shell sure seems to blow the hell out of
>the WB2.0 in looking slick and professional.  Whew-ee!
>_Dan

Wait, you're knocking Workbench 2.0 based *solely* on some
photographs of it!??  At least don't knock it 'till you've
tried it!

Jeremy

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Subject: Re: Dan flipped through an AmigaWorld, and:
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:21:03 GMT

das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>In article <1992Dec13.025825.19202@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec13.021529.20368@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu
>>(Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>
>>>2) Wow, that WB 2.0 looks AWFUL.  Granted, I haven't actually used it, but
>>>from the screen shot, it looks SO primitive!  I guess it is the 4 colors only
>>>that does it.  Really, it hardly looks any better than the mouse-interface 
>>>for MSDOS 5.0's EDIT.COM.  Or QBasic. You get the picture.  Really, you guys
>>>may claim Windows and OS/2 looks to flashy/blocky/clumsy, but WB2.0 looks
>>>primitive as hell!
>>
>>Let's be fair: what screen shot are you referring to? Many of the images are
>>either software which does not take advantage of 2.0 (1.3 hold-outs),
>>aren't style-guide compliant, or are taken from low-resolution displays.
>>
>>In fact, in the January issue, you'd have a hard time coming up with anything
>>that didn't fit into the above categories. Unfortunately, most of us feel
>>the same way you do.

>And another thing (yeah, really): I cannot BELIEVE some Amigans knock the
>OS/2 2.0 WorkPlace Shell after seeing WB2.0.  Good grief.  I would assume that
>the Amiga pictures were trying to look as good as possible -of course.

>Really, OS/2 2.0's WorkPlace Shell sure seems to blow the hell out of
>the WB2.0 in looking slick and professional.  Whew-ee!

Again, who the heck works on only the workbench?  It is good for launching apps that
open their own screen, sure a few apps will open on the wb but I know not many
use it there.

Martin
From: papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: Why my Amiga is gone
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:27:11 GMT

>   It's a long road back in the US, but with the wild state of the PC
>   market who know's what will happen?

The PC is in the fastest time of technical growth in it's history.  The
VESA local bus standard was firmed in August and you can buy over 100
PCs with it in November.  Next year it will be standard.  The new Intel
chips get implemented with weeks of their shipping dates.  Many
computers that sell are already Pentium (/P5/586) ready.  The bottom is
falling out of the sound card market, and the second (third?) wave of
video cards is sweeping the video market.  If this is a wild market, I
wish the automobile industry was as "wild".

>   What makes this so difficult to evaluate from here in the US is that
>   we're so far removed from where Commodore really lives.  I'm probably
>   more confused than the next guy, but I really don't think it's time
>   to give up just yet.  If you insist on being a hard core realist you
>   could miss some real fun.

Or you could wait forever and miss the fun somewhere else...If find
trying a new OS, video card, sound card or application every week (ok,
I can't always try them, I don't have enough money!) pretty exciting.
But if you want to wait another four years for the next Amiga
chipset...have fun.

>***************************************************************
>PC's -- generic computers for generic people
>***************************************************************

Configurable computers for those that have and like to excercise their
free will.
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: sigh.....
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:36:28 GMT

In article <70750,443-141292150644@3.10.7.22> 70750,443@cis.com (Spike) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.184349.24010@netcom.com>, damiel@netcom.com (Paul
>Theodoropoulos) wrote:
>> 
>> In <70750,443-101292162909@3.10.7.22> 70750,443@cis.com (Spike) writes:
>> [deleted]
>> >1. Post whatever they send you, verbatim.
>> >With e-mail address, if they supply it.

>> it is unethical to post private email without the permission of the sender.

Not to mention that it is SO easy to forge no one would beleive it.

-- 
Dan Stephenson                                                das9674@usl.edu  
"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while
we lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki)
Subject: Re: Dan flipped through an AmigaWorld, and:
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:27:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.182224.13346@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>My point was that there is not anyhting common, it would seem, about the Amiga
>look to things.  With Windows or OS/2, you get a consistant way of things.    
>Therre couldn't be a 'look and fee' suit against Commodore for the Amiga 
>because the 'look and feel' changes from app to app.  Tell me this isn't
>true.  Really, I want to know.

Short: apps that follow the style guide are consistent, apps that don't
aren't.  Personaly, I LIKE variety (ya know, the thing that Windows
doesn't have.)

>Me?  An expert?  I never claimed I was doing anyhting investigative here. 

You looked at a magazine and commented about the speed, seems kinda
strange to me...

>I DID say I 'flipped' through it. I *did* think the Amiga1200/600 looked
>good, didn't I?  Oh, but I might be wrong.

That, like everything else discussed here, is a personal decision.  I think
the 1200 and 600 could have been designed a little better.  (The physical
casing, everything on the inside is JUST fine on the 1200, the 600 however...)

>Ha! Ha! (laughs audibly)  I *love* throwing things like that in.  Just 
>keeps you guys up-to-date on those great games like Ultima Underworld-by
>FAR the best RPG *ever*, 

I'm kind of partial to Shadow Run myself.

>and Falcon 3.0 -perhaps the best fighter sim
>on *any* platform.  

Hmmm, I've seen some on an SGI that were quite realistic, but if you say
so.

>Also, it serves to point out that bare MSDOS machines -
>the OS that you AMigans bash to hell and back - is what they run 'on'. 
>I'll do it more now and again to keep you guys from getting too cocky. :)

Please don't make generalizations.  I never said that I don't like clones
(I don't like MSDOS though) and I know there is a place in the market for
them.  I don't ever want the choices in the market narrowed down by anyone
but my self, I'd like to have the option of buying an Amiga 60001, a
Mac XXVIIcixbl, a Gateway 2000/Superdupertium clone or even an Atari
Albatross.
>>--Jason Balicki

>Dan Stephenson                                                das9674@usl.edu  
>"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while
>we lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
>                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  


--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: torban@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Torban Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Wish list for AGA software
Date: 15 Dec 1992 01:42:59 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au

eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Ezra Story) writes:

>In article <Paula_Lieberman.07gy@amicol.UUCP>, Paula Lieberman writes:

>> Neil Wickham:  "glossy HAM8s showing big breasted females in bikinis" --
>> what's this, you have titty envy or something?

>No, he's a human male.  I'm sorry Paula, but not everyone can be gender
>neutral.  MOST human being are either male or female.  MOST human beings
>are attracted to the opposite sex.  Its nothing YOU can dictate.  NOTE
>I am NOT talking about sex discrimination...  But you are apparently unable
>to distinguish between the two.

>> Whattsamatta, you
>> flatchested o something, don't have any boobs of your own to bounce around
>> and get stared at by people you would prefer in some other solar system?!

>Please stop projecting your personal problems on the net, okay?  Just because
>you've been stared at when you didn't want to be gives you NO right to
>judge other people based on their sexual fetishes.

Hmmm, I know Paula has posted a lot of strong articles lately, but I felt that
she was being less than serious with that last post.
(Well thats how I read it, it seemed quite funny!)
Perhaps time to consider the smilies again.  Then again I could be totally
wrong.

>-- 
>"THAT is a DRY turtle.  That turtle is NOT moist!"
>Ezra Story, a student at RIT, and
>eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu, his trusty(?) mailing address.

Torban Bennett -- torban@murdoch.edu.AU --->
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jil@kickapoo.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Lathrop)
Subject: Re: Future Amiga chipset
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:45:51 GMT

In <38053@cbmvax.commodore.com> andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) writes:


>I just gain more respect for the ISU computer science department every 
>time you post :-)

Maybe I should start posting proofs that PH is infinite. (-: (-: (-: (-:
As far as I know, Marc is not part of the CS program.  There would be high
probability that he would have taken a class that I TA'd.  Would you care
to comment on your major Marc???  


>			andy
>-- 
>andy finkel		andy@cbmvax.commodore.com

Jim
Computer Science Deptartment
Iowa STate University
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: Future Amiga chipset
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:50:11 GMT

In article <BzAAHC.K9@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.200017.634@ludd.luth.se> pjotr@ludd.luth.se (Peter Sj|str|m) writes:
>>In <Bz9Bno.GsH@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>>
>>>   Commodore has never proven to me, to my satisfaction, that the CDTV is
>>>still alive.
>>
>>	Can't you ever stop??? What do you want CBM to tell *you*? CBM still
>>sells CDTV machines, they announced that there will be an AGA CDTV, they
>>announced that the Amiga line will get CDTV integrated into it. What *do*
>>you really want them to prove? What is 'satisfaction' to you?
>
>   Fewer "announcements" and more results.  Atari has proven over and over and
>over again that anyone can make announcements.  
>
>---
>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>--------------------------------------------------

	Marc, I and several others spent a long time trying to convince 
CBM to release more information to Amiga owners. In fact I ran a small
email campaign for about two months, and I probably annoyed a lot of people
at CBM who didn't want to hear about it and didn't deserve to hear about it.

	But now CBM is actually *admitting* that they are working on things,
and that is better than making it seem like they're hiding from us. Atari is
not a good example, as just about every major company including Apple and
IBM has made announcements that never came through. But CBM is not like
that at all. You will never hear CBM announce a product that is not ready,
and you have no right to accuse them of vaporware just because of some rumors
you heard or because of developer info. You know damn well that CBM has
manufactured prototypes of lots of hot machines that NEVER came to market
and never will, but that is business.

	The results will start coming in when they realise whether they
are profitting from it.


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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Snow
Distribution: world
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:27:43 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <1992Dec11.170522.12819@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>In article <jbickers.0l1j@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>>> >    have a lot of relatives there :), or to Canada. Or Europe, from a
>                                                ^^^^^^
>>> watch it!  it gets COLD here sometimes! :-)
>
>>    Well, even that has curiosity value. I've never seen a decent
>>    amount of snow right up close.
>
>We just got about 25 cm here and it's still snowing. I'll Fed Ex you some :).

We just had 2 feet here. ( Or about 60 cm )

--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Wish list for AGA software
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 15:21:06 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec10.203125.4908@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
  <BzB9Lw.LIt@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
  <1992Dec16.063734.6234@desire.wright.edu>

>        Okay, I'll bite.  What exactly is "nursing positions".

Well, at many major hospitals, this includes head nurse and staff
nurse. The exact title usually depends on your experience.


TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko