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From: llk@kepler.unh.edu (Local Genius)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: kick back to the keeper
Date: 7 Jan 1993 21:57:59 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics
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In article <1993Jan7.172700.4431@pony.Ingres.COM> cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris) writes:
[...from other contributors]
>Funny that it's no problem for European Leagues, most of which start
>in August, but it is supposedly a problem for the NCAA, whose
>competition starts in September. A more likely explanation is that the
>the NCAA wants to keep control of the rules it plays under, rather
>than automatically adopting FIFA rules like everyone else does.
>
[...]
>Which, if I remember correctly, are littered with comments like "NCAA:
>Stop the clock" etc etc, plus subtlely different penalty tie-breaking
>from those ordained by FIFA. It's a shame that the NCAA tinkers with
>the rules, not only for the players sake. Given the complete lack of
>pro soccer to watch around here, I would quite like to watch some college
>soccer. However, I'm simply not prepared to watch soccer controlled by
>an organisation that thinks it has an ordained right to make its own
>rules and slap restrictive rules to prevent players from playing from
>other teams outside of the NCAA season. Why doesn't USSF do something
>about this kind of stuff?
>
[...]

I have been playing in a summer league here for four seasons now and I
always found some of the NCAA rules as applied by our refrees rather odd.
I guess if one is used to following FIFA rules, playing under NCAA rules
can be quite an experience! I still have trouble adjusting to some of the
calls the refs make. Fortunately for me, I'm not the protesting type but
I played on a team two seasons ago which had had two British players (they
were brothers - wonder if they still are :-) ). They almost always protested
some of the calls and someone had to constantly remind them that NCAA ruled
here! 

Anyway, one day, we went to play against some team in Manchester (New
Hampshire, you understand) and these two brothers brought their mother along
who was visiting at the time. One of our players got sent off and the refs
(they always have two of them and no linesmen) said something quoting NCAA
and said further that the playing who had received the marching orders should
in fact get completely out of sight. One of the brothers started protesting
the red card (which was in fact given to the wrong player - it should have
gone to a player on the other team) and the refs proceeded to send this guy
off also. My English teammates' mama swore at those refs like I had never 
heard anybody swear at a game of soccer before!

I suppose the rules are not too confusing for US players who go to play in 
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From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: BBC (was the EBC)
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:16:58 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1993Jan11.122512.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.114324.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>> 
>> 
>> PS We dont really want that plonker David Mellor as a Rnagers fan as he
>> admitted on Radio 5>
> He keeps very good company, does he not?  Brian Meek (tory), Alan Massie
> (tory), Andy and Alec Cameron (comedians), Mr Abie and Ben Gunn (comedians!),
> Ian Botham (tory), Scottish Office tories who scuppered the Hampden
> redevelopment in union with the powers at Ibrox, the Sun journalists
> (comedians) who set up the not so successful venture into paperdom with Mr
> Murray, the Carnegie Partnership, ill-mannered"fat-cats" referred to recently
> who probably all vote tory, Mrs Thatcher, nearly all Scottish tories and Wet,
> Wet, Wet.  Additions welcome;-).


	Just goes to show it's the Peoples Game with supporters coming from
all walks of life to support their team  :-)

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From: grc@stl.stc.co.uk (Gary Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Proud to be a Man Utd fan
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:12:08
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>
>   Also, United did not commit major crimes like the scum Liverpool.
>   Remember Heysel where 38 people were killed by their hoologan fans.
>   Then, the Hillsborough disaster where half the hooligan fans were so
>   pissed that it agravated that unfortunate situation even more. Take
>   Arsenal as well. They are always involved with the law; the footballing
>   law and otherwise. From the manager to the players, always involved
>   with the law. The players too, play some other type of sport. Looks
>   more like rugby at times.
>

Have you no respect for the people who tragically lost their lives in
these incidents ?

-grc.

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From: schraag@lri.jur.uva.nl (Joost Schraag)
Subject: Re: Bergkamp leaves Ajax (Re: The Great AC Milan!)
Organization: Social Science Informatics
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:16:22 GMT
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grc@stl.stc.co.uk (Gary Cook) writes:

+ In article <1993Jan11.170420.12489@aie.nl> louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen) writes:
+ 
+ >
+ >   It was just announced on the radio that Bergkamp will leave Ajax 
+ >   at end of this season.  He expects to announce the team he will 
+ >   play for before march. In the radio message it was also said that
+ >   he will go to a team in Spain or Italy. This is the first time that
+ >   Bergkamp officaly says he will leave Ajax. He has considered staying with
+ >   Ajax as an option thus far. However, it is impossible to compete
+ >   with  the big Italian and Spanish team who are working with a budget of 
+ >   at least 10 / 15 times the budget of Ajax. 
+ >
+ >   Louis Kossen
+ >
+ 
+  Well, it's a sad loss for Dutch football. 
+ 
+  -grc
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But an inevitable one.
Bergkamp is one in a line of players who grew too big for the Dutch competition.
From a big fish in a small pound, he has to try himself in a bigger pound.

Ajax especially knows from the past that the club is a breeding-ground for young 
talents. South-european clubs also know this and their scouts are regular visitors.
The south-european clubs also have the buying power and salaries that Ajax never
can and will match.

As a aside, last week Ajax sold attackers van Loen to Feijenoord and Willems to
Grasshopers in Schwitzerland.
This means at the end of the season Ajax lost almost their complete attack
(earlier Roy went to Foggia). But they also have new youth-players in the wings.
And from the profits from the Bergkamp-sale they might also buy some players.
Meijer of MVV is mentioned, and they might also recall de Boer from FC Twente.

joost.

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From: Fede@paola.dei.unipd.it (Federico Lazzaro 320201/IF)
Subject: The Great AC Milan!
Reply-To: Fede@paola.dei.unipd.it
Organization: Organization: Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:29:24 GMT

I want only say everybody that Milan is the best soccer team of the World.
I'm interesting of speaking with us about Milan!
I often go to Milan matches at San Siro, Milano.
Please write News about Milan and his matches and i will reply to you!

P.S. i don't know very well English, I apologize!
From: s009@brems.ii.uib.no (Arne Rivenes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Why Liverpool????
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:53:01 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway

Are you sure every fan of major english clubs, do not support their own
local clubs too. I have been a United-fan the hole of my life. I'm born
after their last championship, so it's not cause their winning a lot.
It's just cause their a CLUB, not like Milan (just money). But all that
time have I also been a fan of my local club, Brann. They never win anything
but some cups no and then (like United). It is in fact possibly to support
to clubs, if they don't play against each other.

But when it comes to national teams, then there's no doubt. England could use
11 United players, I still would support Norway. And we probbably would have
won.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Do the Maca McAvennie
Date: 7 Jan 1993 11:58:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Sincere thanks to the Prince of Parkhead, Liam Brady for managing to rescue
John Lambie from signing yet another former Love St starlett to join the likes 
of Abercrombie, Gallacher and McWalters in their achievements of being able to
walk both on and off the pitch at Firhill. How the Thistle players must have
waiting to warmly greet the man who was to be paid over 4 times the average
weekly wage (before bonuses). In his signing, Brady has achieved the near
impossible in insulting both Thistle and Celtic fans alike, and as the 
articulate Chick Young might say, has fanned the flames of the inflamed fans.

the Jersey Jagsfan
From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English News: results from Dec 21
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:56:49 GMT

Premier Division:

Monday night game:

NORWICH CITY 0-2 IPSWICH TOWN
Premier leaders Norwich lost the points, their home record and their
pride in a frenzied derby clash.  Chris Kiwomya headed Ipswich in
front seven minutes into the second half with his fifth goal in five
games, despite playing with the flu. The Canaries were unable to turn
pressure into goals, with the Ipswich defence impeccable.
Two minutes from time Neil Thompson rifled home a superb second to
complete a gloomy night for Norwich.

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From: clgp14@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: SSL Super...don't make me laugh
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:08:52 GMT

 
 Hardly the last act of defiance, more likely the first act of common sense !!!
 
> An act of common sense, yes well we have all see the common sense coming from
Parkhead in the last few years havent we, this must mean that Celtic must be
about the only Premier side in Scotland to have common sense.

 Why do most people take Mercer,Murray, et al, without question ????
> No most people dont take these people without question but at lest these 
buisness men actually put some money back into the game and dont try to hive
it off as is done at Parkhead, that why the place is in the state its in.
 
 The only thing that these guys are interested in is profit. AS for a "super"
 league, I'd hardly call teams like Motherwell, Partick Thistle, or Dunfermline
 super !!!!
>I dont care if these guys are interested in cash, at least I can turn up at
Ibrox each week and see a quality side playing good footy, I can also enjoy
the best facilities of any football ground in the Uk therefore I think that I
get value for money for my season ticket.
Also ask yourself this, what happened to all the cash that Celtic made in their
good years, was it invested back into the ground ? No I think not. It went into
the directors wallets.

 If this league is designed to be the best, where do Raith Rovers fit in ????
 They are running away with the First Div. yet really don't have what it takes
 to compete in the premier league. Granted they'd give the bottom half of the
 league something of a hard game but it would hardly be "super" for the fans.
> Then again its starting to  get a bit boring watching the Gers beat Celtic
all the time and by the way Raith Rovers are playing at the moment they would
more than likely give Celtic a good run for their money (which is not very
much) 
 
 Ian Davis
 Blue Nose
 
 It doesn't show, honest !!! (You obviously believe everything Mr Murray says.)
 
 -: In The End :-
 
 A. 
> Wonder what team you support Tony, I think I'm need to think about that one.
Mr Murray has been one of the best things thats happened to Scottish football
in the past few years, the other is Frank MacAvennie's move to Celtic!!
> 
>
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Date: Friday, 8 Jan 1993 11:59:12 CET
From: <SCLARKE@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject:    Scowse News


It has been announced from Anfield, that Satan's old mate Phil Thompson
has been given 28000 pounds to keep his mouth shut as to why he was
sacked. In return, Thompson has agreed not to take Liverpool to court
for unfair dismissal.
Perhaps another nail in the great man's coffin


Come on Bolton!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: an1084@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re: Why Liverpool????
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:32:14 GMT

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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject:Re: Why Liverpool????


"Let me inject a new thought into your brain: there is more than one league
in this world! And it's possible to support more than one team. There is no
contradiction in supporting both Bramming and Liverpool."  

I agree with you in this context, of course it's reasonable to have a favourite
foreign team (in your case liverpool) but what i can't understand is someone in
England or Wales who has 92 professional teams to choose from and countless
semi-professional and amateur teams to choose from. why don't they support
their local team, whether they win or lose?
Nothing is more boring than a league where one doesn't have a personal 
favouritte. I can't enjoy a match fully without rooting for one of the teams. 
So every time I watch a match I pick one of the teams as my favouritte for
this match - that decision might be based on the cut for their outfit,
on the style of their play, on the sound of their name, on the behaviour
of their fans, on what I think of the players or what day of the week it
is. And sooner or later I discover that I root for one particular team
every time, and that I root for the opponents of that teams rivals.
That is why I have favouritte teams in every major league that I have
seen several games from.

I don't really know why I support Liverpool. I just do that and have done
so since I started being interested in football. I have never been to a
Liverpool match, simply because I have never had the chance, nor do I
live anywhere close to Liverpool but I think that my fanship is legitimate
anyway. Do I have to stop being interested in the English league just
because I happen to be born on the other side of the North Sea? 

I do support my local (relative to my place of growing up) team, but
face it; Danmarksserien Kreds 3 is _not_ at the absolute center of
media attention. All I get is the results in the sunday papers. Should
I just ignore the rest? Should I stop watching football on TV cause that's
not my local team on the screen? And no, Bramming Boldklub is never
going to be anywhere near at the top unless I become extremely rich and
buy success for the club. 

Take a look at the place I live. Logically I should support Viby IF, but
they play at the same level as Brammings reserve team. So the club I go
the see every second sunday is AGF. Because they are the best team in town
(and because they were my championship favourittes even when I lived in
Bramming). Do you think that I should stop attending their matched 
because some office randomly choose to offer me a place to live in Viby?
Should I stop caring about the Danish championship?

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From: chem91@Elroy.UH.EDU ("Bill Harrison (713)-743-2789")
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: FA Trophy draw
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:01:44 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <1993Jan12.194100.7216@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, dc@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Daniel Cohen) writes:
>In <38492@cbmvax.commodore.com> spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson) writes:
>
>>Could someone please post the draw for the FA Trophy 2nd round?
>>(or at least let me know who Enfield will be playing).
>


Could somebody please let me know how/if Bashley FC are doing in this 
contest... 

Thanks,
Bill


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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Proud to be a Man Utd fan
Organization: Wits University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:47:52 RSA

Manchester United over the years have not produced the goods like winning
the League Championship for 26 years yet they have the best attendances
in the country. How do you explain that. That's because they are a truly
sporting club.
 
Liverpool on the other hand is supposed to have all this fantastic record
especially with the number of league championships. So how come United
is still better supported than them. Can you imagine the support United
would get if they won more Championships than Liverpool. Probably make
Liverpool look like a 4th division club.
 
Also, United did not commit major crimes like the scum Liverpool.
Remember Heysel where 38 people were killed by their hoologan fans.
Then, the Hillsborough disaster where half the hooligan fans were so
pissed that it agravated that unfortunate situation even more. Take
Arsenal as well. They are always involved with the law; the footballing
law and otherwise. From the manager to the players, always involved
with the law. The players too, play some other type of sport. Looks
more like rugby at times.
 
United have their share of faults too, no doubt. In the 70's they had
a bad reputation with the fans but all of that was sorted out a long
time ago. Also, many a time, they have frustrated the fans by not
winning the League Title. But they hung in there, a mark of a truly
sporting club.
 
Proud to be a Manchester United fan.
Up the RED DEVILS, down the Liverpool.
 
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From: ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: NYC Local Soccer ??????????
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:25:05 GMT
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan

In article <93004.161108KEMCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> KEMCC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
hi,
   this post is for you lads living in the New York City area.
   it's been two + years since i left South America. On the continent i played
   football almost everyday. And now in NY i can't find a place or a team to
   play with. If there is anyone out there who can help cure my blues, please
   do. I need a location in the Westchester(Mount Vernon/ Yonkers area),
   Manhattan
    or even the Bronx. I need to get hooked up with a team or local league if
    there is any. The only time i get to touch a ball is when my school plays
    in the Fall (only 2 months).
   Soccer is an obsession for me. It's my life. I was born with the diease.
   If I don't get to play all year round I will have to visit a doctor.

Living in New York you should try to get yourself a basket ball. You will be
a lot more popular if you go to the bronx ...


Tsiel

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From: clgs11@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Predictions: Souness Sacking
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:45:42 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <16B4FE56B.074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za>, 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes:
> I predict thet Souness will get sacked before April fool's day !
> Any odds on me being wrong ?

He'll only be the first of many !!!!!!!
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Why Liverpool????
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:18:02 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1993Jan6.113629.9329@meiko.com>, esp@meiko.co.uk writes:
> 
> 
>  
> Shame on you lot!!!
> 
> Don't get me wrong I've nothing against the supporters of the Liverpools, Man U's and Leeds of this World.... as long as they live in or around Liverpool, Manchester or Leeds. But it's those who simply support these teams because... well they win a lot... they're big teams... they're in Europe... etc etc. They think they're special because they rarely have to face the possiblity of defeat. Pathetic!! They deserve no respect from any real football fan! I ask you, where's the passion? 
> 
> I just wish this lot would look over their shoulder and take a look at their local teams, OK the quality may not be too good, but to these teams and their supporters every game is about survival and the dream of one day being up there with the big boys.
> 
> Support Your LOCAL team!!!!

etc, etc.


Listen, if you live in places like Paisley or Edinburgh it's no wonder a lot
of people don't support their local teams (St Mirren, Hibs, Hearts) and instead 
support Rangers and Celtic.


 
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