HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: krm3611@sigma.tamu.edu (Ken McWatters)
Subject: Re: Firstpost Challenge (great newsgroup!)
Summary:  Jimmy Page/LED ZEPPELIN
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:21:00 GMT

>>What is
>>John Paul Jones doing these days anyway?
> 
>John Paul Jones wrote all the string arrangements on R.E.M.'s most recent
>album, _Automatic for the People_.  So far as I know, that's the first major
>project he's undertaken in quite a while.
> 
>Anybody know what Jimmy Page is up to now that The Firm has been dissolved?
>  
>John
> 
    Well, if you haven't heard about Jimmy's latest project, then get ready
to scream HERESY!!   or at least take a reserved interest, like I am...

Jimmy is collaborating with David Coverdale (formerly Whitesnake) on a new
studio album.  I heard almost a year ago that they had written 7 or 8 songs
together, decided they weren't quite good enough and they wanted to take
time to write some more.  They were supposed to release the album late this
year, and in REC.MUSIC.INFO the release date was slated for November, but it
was just posted as "delayed" until who knows when.  Hopefully it'll be out
early next year.

I'm really curious to find out what the sound of this project will be.  A
Zeppelin re-hash?   A really hard rock sound?  One can only wonder.

Ken
From: sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: I am the walrus
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:57:56 GMT
Reply-To: sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering

What is to the song "I am the Walrus". any significance to it??



Arun
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu (Jeff Knell)
Subject: Re: Another So Far Ignored Band.....
Organization: Department of Genetics, University of Utah
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:10:20

R. Wynne writes:

   Ladies and Gentlemen.....I present you with......\
   \
   The Band.

   (The name just says it all, eh?)

   Seriously, Robbie Robertson and the guys put out some of the most
   intellegent, innovative rock-n-roll out there, and some of its 
   members have continued that tradition since The Band's demise.
   (Robbie Robertson's first solo album was a masterpiece, I say!)

   Any other Band lovers out there?

   +doc
=================================

Right on, doc!

I was going to stay out of this.
Glad you brought up The Band -- the best.

I can understand why The Band is not more
popular than they are amoung most "rock" fans.
These guys were just a bit too refined for
the mass market.  To be blunt, their music
just does not have the sexual content that
permeates most rock.  (They kept their clothes
on while performing, and didn't dance around
too much. ;-)

They have some great bump-and-grind tunes 
("I hand you my rod, and you had me that line...
now we ain't doin' much fishing, or drinking any 
wine"), but their primary aim was higher.

Check out the movie "The Last Waltz" if you
want a taste.

Not withstanding the above comments, The Beatles 
were/are a phenomenon unto themselves.


jeff

feitctaj

	 I picked up my bags 
         went lookin' for a place to hide
	 when I saw Carmen and the Devil
	 walkin side by side
	 I said "hey Carmen, come on
	 let's go downtown"
	 She said "I gotta go,
	 but my friend can stick around"

				The Weight
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: sharrington@mpgs.dec.com (Shawn Harrington)
Subject: Re: Deep Purple
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:48:00 GMT


In article <1992Nov20.141944.19090@cs.ruu.nl>, ate@cs.ruu.nl (Ate Brink) writes...
>In <GERRY_KENDAL-191192150138@mac84081.educ.ualberta.ca> GERRY_KENDAL@ACT.EDUC.UALBERTA.CA (Gerry Kendal) writes:
>[...]
>>"Hey Joe" was on Shades, but that wasn't their first album by any means. 
> 
>Actually, Shades *was* their first album!!


		Well, you beat me to the correction... but here's some
	additional info about their first three albums, from the book
	_Deep Purple: The Illustrated Biography_, by Chris Charlesworth -

		Shades of Deep Purple
		Recorded May 1968, US release July '68, UK release
	Sep. '68

		Book of Taliesyn
		Recorded Aug. '68, US release Oct. '68, UK release
	July '69

		Deep Purple
		Recorded Dec. '68 - Jan. '69, US release June '69,
	UK release Nov. 69

		I imagine the confusion as to which actually was
	their first album stems from the title of their third; I
	guess most people assume that an album just titled after
	the band MUST be the first.

		The book didn't have anything to say - that I can 
	recall - about why the UK releases lagged the US.

		The book also confirmed something else I'd assert-
	ed earlier in this discussion: that the US and UK versions
	of Purple's _Fireball_ are different; the UK version has
	"Demon's Eye" in place of "Strange Kind of Woman", and
	it's vice-versa for the US version.




--- Shawn Harrington, DEC, Shrewsbury, MA


sharrington@mpgs.enet.dec.com
		OR
sharrington%mpgs.enet.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com
		(Use whichever works)

*******************************************************************
*	Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own, and they   *
*   may not reflect, nor should they be taken as reflecting, in   *
*   any way, the opinions of Digital Equipment Corporation.       *
*******************************************************************

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Re: Guitar solos
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:20:29 GMT

In article <fineston-181192010701@je-college-node.net.yale.edu> fineston@pop.cis.yale.edu (Jason Finestone) writes:
>  How 'bout this for a new discussion:  What are your favorite, classic,
>awe-inspiring guitar solos?
>  Some of my favorites include:
>
>				Comfortably Numb (both of them) -Floyd 
>				Mood For a Day (simply beautifulalthough not as complex as 'Clap' or
>			               'Surface Tension' or 'the Ancient' etc..) -Steve Howe
>(Yes)
>				Black Dog (profoundly cool) -Led Zeppelin
>				Bijou -Queen
>				Watermelon in Easter Hay (too bad no one has heard this, it's
>incredible!) -Frank Zappa (off of Joe's Garage & Guitar)
>				Janie's Got A Gun (what was Joe Perry thinking?!) -Aerosmith
>

Okay - how could you miss out all the playing on the Allman Brothers
'Live at Fillmore East' album. There are *incredible* licks on
that, and then there is the lone Derek & The Dominos album. 

-- 
Shyamal Prasad, Department of Computer Science
Southern Methodist University, Dallas TX 72275
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Deep Purple
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:38:03 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Well, I've definitely seen alot of my favorite "best" classic rock
bands listed: Zep, Beatles, The Who, Floyd, etc...but what?...no
mention of Deep Purple?  Come on, you guys..."Smoke On The Water" may
have got played into the ground, but these guys have to be in alot of
peoples top ten classic bands...after all, "Machine Head" alone had not
only "SotW", but "Space Truckin'", "Lazy", & "Highway Star"..."My Woman
From To-kay-o" is classic as is "Hush".  Although later versions of DP
were cool (David Coverdale etal), my favorite line-up was Ian Gillan,
Ritchie Blackmore, John Lord, Roger Glover and Ian Paice.  This line-up
was reborn on "Perfect Strangers", IMHO a pretty damn good album. One
early album they did which is excellent but relatively unknown to many
classic rock fans is Deep Purple In Rock...the boys really kick ass on
"Speed King" and Ian Gillan's vocals on "Child In Time" are nothing
short of spectacular!  Any other Purple fans out there (and I don't
mean the Vikings)?

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:25:59 -0500 
From: Kendrick Kerwin Chua <kendrick+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Rainbow (was-Re: Deep Purple)
	<1992Nov19.045241.25752@cunews.carleton.ca>

>From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
>Date: 18 Nov 92 21:38:03 GMT
> 
>Well, I've definitely seen alot of my favorite "best" classic rock
>bands listed: Zep, Beatles, The Who, Floyd, etc...but what?...no
>mention of Deep Purple?  Come on, you guys..."Smoke On The Water" may
>have got played into the ground, but these guys have to be in alot of
>peoples top ten classic bands...after all, "Machine Head" alone had not
>only "SotW", but "Space Truckin'", "Lazy", & "Highway Star"..."My Woman
>From To-kay-o" is classic as is "Hush".  Although later versions of DP
>were cool (David Coverdale etal), my favorite line-up was Ian Gillan,
>Ritchie Blackmore, John Lord, Roger Glover and Ian Paice.  This line-up
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Not a Purple fan per se, but my favorite song of all time is probably
"Stargazer" from the album Rainbow Rising. Rainbow was the band that
Ritchie really could cut loose on, and that launched the career of a
particular singer we should all know and love . . . R.J. Dio.


Kendrick Kerwin Chua

kc3u+@andrew.cmu.edu    or
kendrick+@CMU.EDU

Dark Lord awaken!
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: andrew@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (CHIHUAHUA CHARLIE)
Subject: Medallion...
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:54:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services



Bueno,
    I have got to be the world's greatest fan of Pink Floyd,
and recently I heard of a band who has a lot of Floyd influ-
ence in their music.  This band is Medallion.
    Granted, they are not classic, but I have heard that they
have plenty of roots in Floyd and Art Rock (Yes, Genesis), so
I am wondering if anyone else has heard of them or have an
album.

andrew
andrew@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: amck@rowdy.mcc.com (Alan McKendree)
Subject: Re: Ladies and gentlemen: The Who
Keywords: etc. etc. etc.
Organization: MCC
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:16:05 GMT

In article <rawdon.722123015@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <1992Nov18.160843.2599@mcc.com> amck@rowdy.mcc.com (Alan McKendree) writes:
>>Any other Who fans out there (besides Frank Dana--hi, Frank!)?  After
>>reading alt.rock-n-roll for years, I have yet to see any threads
>>concerning them (not surprising, for a non-producing band :-).
>
>This might be because there is a Who mailing list, and what little
>discussion there is of the band shows up there.  (And there really isn't
>very much, as the band is more-or-less defunct.)

So...what's the name of the list?

thanks,

Alan
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: The Best, The Worst, and Subjectivity
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:25:56 GMT
 <1992Nov17.191635.18688@athena.mit.edu>  
 <1992Nov19.011136.19617@dg-rtp.dg.com>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov19.011136.19617@dg-rtp.dg.com>
cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:

> |Except for the fact that both "Touch Me" and "Love Her Madly" were written by
> |guitarist Robby Krieger.  Have you ever read any of Morrison's poetry?  I agree
> |that a lot of it is shit, but some of it is actually pretty good (An American
> |Prayer, for example).
> 
> Can't say that I have.  In fact, I didn't even know that he wrote poetry
> other than lyrics.  And if his best poetry was not in his song lyrics, then
> what does his poetry have to do with the Doors being a great band?

Sorry to barge in on this, but I don't believe I read anywhere that
someone had claimed Morrison's best poetry was not in his song lyrics
or vice versa ...I think someone did make a couple of good points: 1.)
on lyrics Morrison wrote, much of the repeation you may is found in the
chorus. 2.) Morrison did not write the lyrics on some songs.  As for
what does his poetry have to do with the Doors being a great band, do I
really need to answer this? :-)  IMHO, cuts such as "Celebration of the
Lizard", "The Unknown Soldier" & "The End" are good examples as to why
Jim's poetic gift help the Doors achieve greatness...please also note
that I'm not inferring that the Doors success was because of Morrison's
ability to turn a good phrase, but was due to the collective genius's
of Morrison, Manzarek and Kreiger...

Just my 2 cents.....

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
From: sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Jethro Tull
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:10:07 GMT
Reply-To: sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering

Bruce Daugherty writes:
 
** Yes I too am a big Tull fan,though I will have to differ with you
** concerning their raw energy. 
>> All I meant was that the group is basically an educated group in music
>> and people may tend to think that they lack the spontaneity of (say) the
>> the stones. Not that I agree, since according to me there is no live
performer >> like Anderson. His introductions in his live shows to each
of his songs
>> is inimitable and quite unique, also his improvisation over the
studio
>> versions ( a prime example cited here can be the live version of
"Living
>> In The Past" and "Dun Ringill" ). 

** And aren't you glad that Ian didn't opt for high pitch screaming
vocals 
** that seem to attract brain dead pubic hairless Zep zombies from
hell?
>> I totally agree. The rich vocals ring on and ring steady. Live on
Ian!!!

Arun
                And as you join the good shepherd
                        And mingle with the dust;
                You better leave your underpants
                        With someone you can trust.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: JIM MORRISON
From: klacher@catarina.gac.edu (Kimberly A Lacher)
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:43:51 -0600



DEATH MAKES ANGELS OF US ALL
AND GIVES US WINGS
WHERE WE HAVE SHOULDERS
SMOOTH AS RAVENS CLAWS
              -Jim Morrison
               "American Poet"



*Just something for you to ponder*

--------Kim----------
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEM
From: klacher@catarina.gac.edu (Kimberly A Lacher)
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:37:42 -0600

I have had a terrible time trying to get on the LED ZEPPELIN mailing list
*****HELP******
I'm new to the system!!!
                             -------Kim--------
My address  klacher@nic.gac.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: gsu0013@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Michael Kaminsky)
Subject: Re: Firstpost Challenge (great newsgroup!)
Summary:  who
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:43:13 GMT

In article <1e6ccnINNpq9@aludra.usc.edu> wbiggs@aludra.usc.edu (Wes "Squid" Biggs) writes:
>The Who is the greatest all time rock-n-roll band.

Here here!  I second that emotion!  Maximum R & B I always say!  So
listen up you Zepheads---------  L O N G L I V E R O C K !

 Pete Townshend's lyrics, combined with Daltrey's vocals

A perfect example of symbiotic relationship!

and the energetic backup of Keith the Inferno Moon and John Entwistle,

the wild thrasher and the stabilizing factor!

will never again be matched in terms of raw energy.
>
I agree, and have many fine examples of this raw energy captured live!

>The Who pioneered concept rock -- more than the Beatles, I say.
>
I think that it's time I mentioned a rumour that I heard way back when.
It seems that the Beatles and the WHO, were more collaborative than
competitive!  They had toured together and I think became friends.  Well
the story goes that the second side of Abbey Road, where the songs all
segue into each other and are quite short, happened to be the overture
for a rock opera that the Beatles intended to release during problems
with the bands stability.  Rumor alert********  I heard that the Beatles
agreed not to release their album because Tommy was due out, and so they
held the beatle rock opera, but later put the overture on abbey road!

The Who also had another one, or at least pete townshend 
did called, 'Life house'  Sounded cool, most of it ended up on the "Who
came first" album.


There is a great book to read about The Who, called, My Generation.
It's detail reminded me of the Beatles by Hunter Davies....  good stuff.


Let's post more about the Who here!  Anybody got any tapes they want to
trade.  I have a few good boot albums!
Send email for a list!


Later,

mike
From: lib1p@rosie.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: And the debates rage on......
Date: 20 Nov 1992 19:06 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I have a real hard time with this debate BS.  Guess I just love
'em all....well most of them.  I really have a hard time saying
so-and-so is better than such-and-such.

Just put the headphones on rock in the hot tub!!!

Tammy
From: curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Guitar solos
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:43:34 CST
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <fineston-181192010701@je-college-node.net.yale.edu>, fineston@pop.cis.yale.edu (Jason Finestone) writes:
>   How 'bout this for a new discussion:  What are your favorite, classic,
> awe-inspiring guitar solos?
>   Some of my favorites include:
> 
> 				Comfortably Numb (both of them) -Floyd 
> 				Mood For a Day (simply beautifulalthough not as complex as 'Clap' or
> 			               'Surface Tension' or 'the Ancient' etc..) -Steve Howe
> (Yes)
> 				Black Dog (profoundly cool) -Led Zeppelin
> 				Bijou -Queen
> 				Watermelon in Easter Hay (too bad no one has heard this, it's
> incredible!) -Frank Zappa (off of Joe's Garage & Guitar)
> 				Janie's Got A Gun (what was Joe Perry thinking?!) -Aerosmith
> 
> I would love to see additions to this list on the newsgroup.
> 



I can tell you one little ditty that is really cool even though im not
a big Van-halen fan,"finish what ya started" is really cool on the
break.


Scott.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: scmj@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Christine Johnson)
Subject: Re: Guitar solos
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:54:59 GMT

No doubt in my mind - Brighton Rock by Queen.  There are others by Queen
but none that sticks out quite like that one.  To think that they recorded
six albums without the assistance of synthesizers... most effects were
accomplished by Brian May.  He is, IMHO, the best guitar player around.

(I'm sure THAT little comment will spark some discussion....)

-- 
Chris Johnson			scmj@sunyit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: U2?
From: jvessey@husc11.harvard.edu (Jonathan Vessey)
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:46:07 EST
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Yes, I know. U2 really doesn't fall into the category of classic rock (unless
you're using the definition that most of the "classic" stations on the radio
do), but this seemed like the best place to ask the question:
Is there anywhere on the net where discussions of the group take place? I 
know there is, for example, an alt.fan.music.rush (or something close to that)
but I've never seen a specific U2 group. Where are they typically discussed?

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'm also a big classic rock
fan, so I'll be popping up here from time to time, too, I'm sure.

Jon 
-- 
						Jon Vessey
                                                jvessey@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: sdhouse@eos.ncsu.edu (STEPHEN DAVID HOUSE)
Subject: Re: Neil Young
Originator: sdhouse@c00389-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: sdhouse@eos.ncsu.edu (STEPHEN DAVID HOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:48:03 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.094935@ece.arizona.edu>, sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath) writes:
|>Tim Corcoran writes:
|>
|>What about Neil Young?
|>
|>>>I feel that Neil Young is a great artist and all that 
|>but the way I have heard it, he is an extreme egoist and was 
|>the first to split the great CSNY. This may be incorrect and
|>I am sorry for that!! Does anyone know the truth behind the 
|>CSNY --> CSN transition.

I would not say that he is an egotist.  Based on his music, what he says
in concerts and in interviews, I would say that he has a low self esteem.
But, I would say that he very much likes to do what he wants to do!  That's
probably the reason he keeps switching between bands.  Besides, CSNY went
downhill before Young left - listen to 4 Way Street.  They SUCKED! in that 
album when they tried to play together because it sounds like they were all
trying to be on top.  The solo stuff on the album is okay.   

Also, CSN were CSN first before becoming CSNY and then back to CSN.  It's
just a bunch of folks exploring their musical avenues.

|>ALso, why the falsetto!! In all his interviews, he seems to
|>sport a normal voice!!
|>

Got no idea on this one.  In some songs it works.  However, there are a few
songs were he does not sing falsetto!  And that works as well.

|>Arun
|>

BTW, there is a new Neil Young mailing list - Send mail to:

  rust-request@death.corp.sun.com

asking to be on the list.  Becareful! There is a lot of traffic on the list.

And one more thing - if your really interested in Neil Young, check out the
Neil Young discography at ftp.uwp.edu in /pub/music/discog/y/young.neil
There will be an update to it very soon!

Stephen House
-- 
Stephen D. House
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic