HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ahm@spatula.rent.com (Andreas Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problem reading USENET news under UNIX Waffle
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:46:01 GMT
Reply-To: ahm@spatula.rent.com (Andreas Meyer)
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: A kitchen utensil somewhere in central New Jersey

kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
[re: Unix Waffle v1.65]
> I'm constantly getting "No messages on XXXXX", where XXXXX is the
> local or USENET newsgroup I wish to read.

You've probably checked this, but I'll give it a shot anyway... :-)

In your /waffle/system/usenet file, make sure you've got a line
that looks (anything) like:

    DEFAULT /dir="/usr/spool/news"

or wherever your news is spooled. The same goes for /waffle/system/local.

Cheers,
Andy
--
 Andreas Meyer, N2FYE       Just bouncing through the pinball game of life...
 ahm@spatula.rent.com       Today, I think I'm stuck behind a flipper. :-)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: TRUNCATED BATCH(es)
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:16:30 GMT

In article <7e5XPB1w164w@bolis.SF-Bay.org> amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.org (Alan Millar) writes:
|fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner) writes:
|> That's another point -- RFC's only apply to the Internet.  Since UUCP
|> connection != Internet, you can't point to an RFC and expect it to apply.
|
|This reasoning is why so many gateways don't work.  If everyone followed 
|the RFCs in places where they are appropriate, we wouldn't have so many 
|unreliable mail systems.

But some RFC's just _don't_ apply - like RFC821, and RFC822's suggestion of
<CR><LF> seperated lines.  I wasn't suggesting to completely ignore the
RFC's; I was just pointing that although the RFC's may be the bible of
the Internet, they don't *necessarily* all apply to UUCP.

  Bill
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: new 386, any ideas?
From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 13:39:01 PDT
Distribution: world               
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:
>
> 
>      Hi Folks! I just (finally) upgraded to a 386/16 (2mb ram, 130MD HD,
> dual HD floppies, SVGA), and am looking for interesting ideas to help make
> Waffle run a little smoother. Also, I was wondering just how well a

Get DESQview 386 and DVSI.  Another 2Mb would be a Good Thing (tm)
also.


> RAMdisk would work with polling? What I was thinking of doing is polling
> out, copying the contents of ~\spool\sitename to drive R: (for Ram Drive,
> of course!), then running UUXQT on drive R:. Would this work?

UUXQT and UUCICO both look for the /spool/* directories to find/put
news batches.  You'd have to swap the pointers in STATIC to it to make
it work when running one or the other.  Probably not worth the effort,
but that's a personal thing, I suppose.  Multitasking Waffle with the
rest of the things one does with a computer will probably make you
happier.

Or you could use the extra memory for a disk cache, which would
accomplish the same thing (speed up unbatching).



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us
[] Long Beach, California
From: amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.org (Alan Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: How to read user/system/orphan from other user?
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:57:30 GMT
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:

> Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.org> writes:
> > However, when there is a bounce, waffle wants to write it to
> > a folder called "orphan" in the user/system directory.
> > 
> > Is there a short-cut to read this from my user, without creating
> > a user called "system" and logging in (or reading the file from DOS...)?
> 
> Try using "SYSMAIL" and then "GO ORPHAN".

I mentioned in my first post that this doesn't work.

I have no user named SYSTEM.  So there is no MAILBOX.F for SYSTEM.
The SYSMAIL command therefore prompts me for an address to send mail 
to.  SYSMAIL * brings up my folders from user/amillar, not the system
folders from user/system.  So there is no place to do GO ORPHAN
at.

How is everyone else reading bounces?  Does everyone else keep a user
named SYSTEM?.....

- Alan

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From: mike.batchelor@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Mike Batchelor)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: RE: WANTED: NN FOR DOS
Date: 24 Aug 92 18:16:00 GMT
Reply-To: mike.batchelor@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Mike Batchelor)
Organization: The Batchelor Pad PCBoard ~ Long Beach, CA ~ +1 310 494 8084


cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz sez:
-> In article <mike02232920711181815@batpad.lgb.ca.us>,
-> mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mik >> OK.. I did it, and now that I have
-> nn258, well.. my German language skills >Run nwreader.exe with no
-> parameters and you'll get the English >help screen.  It's very
-> straightforward.
->
-> Is there an ftp site where nn258.zoo can be retrieved from?  I sent a
-> message to the authors site but only got back half of the program.

OK, it's on my archive server now:

To: mailserv@batpad.lgb.ca.us

GET uudos/nn264.zip UUE  (or XXE)

Yes, he has sent me a new revision.  I'll put all the new revisions up
here as soon as I get them.

INDEX will retrieve the file listing.

2.64 now allows users with Priv and Level both set to nine to write and
send files from/to any disk, any directory.
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Control Show On/Off
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:58:36 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...


     Hi Folks! I've scanned the docs, and am unable to tell... What does
CONTROL SHOW ON|OFF do? (F8 from the F1-Local Menu)

                                   Jeff

...From a tiny little node called Eternal!
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From: jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: NN258's DIRSCAN program
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:10:30 MES
Distribution: world               
Organization: Private MS-DOS Site

mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor) writes:
>
> ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes:
> >
> > I'm trying to use NN258, but to absolutely no avail.  I try to
> > run the program after configuring it to the file's instructions,
> > and when I run the program, when the program says it's creating a
> > files, it does a 2 1/2 Gainor into a black hole, i.e. it locks my
> > machine up cold.  I have to do a "three-finger-salute", punch
> > the reset button, or hit the Big Red Switch in order to regain
> > control of my computer.  BTW, I'm using Waffle 1.65 under MS-DOS
> > 5.00 on a 286 NEAT motherboard with a meg of memory.
> > 
> > Message in short form:  HELP!!!!!!
> > 
> > Many thanks to anyone for anything in advance.
> 
> 
> Get 2.64 from mailserv@batpad.lgb.ca.us.
> 
> GET uudos/nn264.zip UUE (or XXE)
> 
> 2.58 locked my machine often, also.  2.64 doesn't.  I'm using it right
> now.

But be careful! NN264.ZOO is a beta release!

        Hannes

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Berlin                |-------------------------------------------------
Germany               | UUCP:   ...!unido!fub!giraffe.in-berlin.de!jbla
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: TRUNCATED BATCH(es)
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:06:54 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

dawson@vdbsan (Willard Dawson) writes:

> So, who is the final, "legal" authority in determining whether a particular
> interpretation of an RFC is the correct one?  And, could we please get that
> body involved in this discussion, quickly?  Before we all waste more key-
> strokes over this (apparently) emotional battle?
Willard, the group you are talking about might well be the news.admin
folks, or other such group. And beleive you me, you do *NOT* want them
here. We've all got better things to do than hear some RFC-banging
net.addict tell us about how "the real.world" works.

                                             Jeff

...From a tiny little node called Eternal!
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: WAF165
Keywords: Waffle
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:20:35 GMT

In article <e1B1PB1w164w@dlhpfm.UUCP> dlhpfm!dlh@NCoast.org (daniel lance herrick) writes:
|And I tried installing it last night.  All it ever did was declare that
|it had run out of memory and exit.  Running DOS 4.01 with BNU, I
|managed to get 578144 bytes for it and it still just exited.

What's your buflines: setting in the static file?  Do you have a huge
number of newsgroups in your USENET file?

  Bill
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From: Mortenso@ulrik.uio.no (Morten Soby)
Subject: Collaboration&Computer Conferencing
Organization: PFI/UiO
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:40:10 GMT

Ship Ahoy!

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Essential reading for anyone interested in sailing through the
storms and thrills of computer conferencing and distance education...

COLLABORATIVE LEARNING THROUGH COMPUTER CONFERENCING
The Najaden Papers

edited by Anthony R. Kaye
Institute of Educational Technology, Open University, UK

================================================================
A book prepared as a result of a NATO Advanced Research Workshop
held on the sailing ship Najaden during a journey from
Copenhagen to Stockholm in July 1991. Published by Springer-Verlag

(NATO ASI Series F: Computer and Systems Sciences, Special
Programme AET, Vol 90) Heidelberg: Springer-Verlag, 260 pp
Published August 1992,  Hardcover, DM 88,-  ISBN 3-540-55755-5
================================================================

CONTENTS

Preface:  Arne Welin, Captain of the Najaden

Introduction and acknowledgements

1 Learning Together Apart:  Anthony Kaye

Part I  COMPUTER CONFERENCING IN PRACTICE

2 Telematic support for in-service teacher training:  Cristina Simon
3 Waiting for Electropolis:  Morten Soby
4 Computer-mediated communication in management learning:
  David McConnell
5 International Online Teams: Elaine McCreary & Madge Brochet
6 Collaborative learning in a large-scale conferencing system:
  Jesus Rueda

Part II  WAYS OF UNDERSTANDING ONLINE COLLABORATION

7 Evaluation methodologies for conferencing applications:
  Robin Mason
8 Content analysis of computer conferences:  France Henri
9 A case study approach to evaluation:  Michael Waggoner
10 Talking, teaching and learning in network groups:   Sara Kiesler
11 Collaborative learning in networked organisations:  John Gundry

Part III  ISSUES IN SOFTWARE DESIGN

12 The challenge of conferencing systems design:  Oliver Vallee
13 Metaphors and interface design:  Elsebeth Sorensen
14 Human interfaces to promote collaboration:  Gary Alexander
15 Towards a hypermedium for collaborative learning?: Alain Derycke
16 Computer conferencing functions and standards:  Jacob Palme
17 Hardware and software systems and architecture: Jens Ambrosius

====================================================================

Morten Sby, 
University of Oslo, The Faculty of Social Science   	       	
Institute for Educational Research      	
P.O. Box 1092, N-0317 Oslo 3 Norway
Newsgroups: comp.groupware
From: russellg@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Glenn Russell)
Subject: Looking for Telepresence proceedings paper
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:42:54 GMT

I recently re-discovered an old posting from this group referencing the
following article.  Does anyone stateside have a copy they could send me?
I'll pay all postage, copying charges.  Thanx in advance!    

glenn
russellg@tramp.colorado.edu

------------------- Begin Referenced Article -----------------------------

Proceedings of the First COST #229 WG. 5 Workshop, "Telepresence: A new concept
for teleconferencing", are available from:

Robert Forchheimer
Image Coding Group
Dept. of Elec. Engineering
Linkoeping University
S-581 83 Linkoeping
Sweden.

====================================================

             TELEPRESENCE - A NEW PLATFORM 

              FOR INTERACTIVE TELECOMMUNICATION


                     Robert Forchheimer

                     Image Coding Group
                Dept. of Elec. Engineering

                    Linkoeping University

------------------- End Referenced Article -----------------------------
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From: cdfannin@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (Chris D Fanning)
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:47:17 GMT

Gad, this is getting rediculous..!

In article <liuyu.715220479@kramden> liuyu@kramden.nyu.edu (Liuyu) writes:
>ckincy@mcs213c.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy) writes:
>>You think Microsoft wrote the Herc driver for Windows?  Heh.  Yeah,
>>right.  Herc wrote it.  If Herc refuses to write an OS/2 driver, well
>>that's Herc screwing over their own customers, it's not IBM's fault.
>
>Prove it. 

I don't know for sure about the Hercules case, but there's alot of drivers
that come with Windows that has (c) Copyright xxxx My Corp., etc... in them.
Take a look with a sector editor/file viewer.

>
>Did Herc also write all the drivers for the tons of software that support Herc?
>IBM refuses to write driver for a standard from a competitor. It's like Lotus
>refuses to write a standard VGA driver for its 123. And it expects IBM to write
>it. It sure doesn't make any sense.
>
>>>Time to support all standards.
>
>>I agree.  Herc should support OS/2.  They don't.
>
>You got it backward! OS/2 should support all standards.


This is rediculous!  OS/2 is an operating system.  When a software company
writes software for OS/2 do they NOW have to write drivers for every video
card they want to support?  No.  There's a device independant interface.  So,
a company such as Hercules never would have to write more than one driver.

To me, writing one driver to support your hardware makes alot of sense, no?
Why should IBM (who may not know everything about the hardware (such as the
ET4000 problem with an UNDOCUMENTED register)) be responsible for suporting
competing hardware manufacturers products?  If you say for the "success of
OS/2" then that's fine and good, but I think you're wrong for placing the
total burden of development on IBM.  OS/2 makes it possible to do away with
having to write VGA, SVGA, 8514/a, XGA, and Herc drivers for someone's
software.  It also allows companies' hardware to be supported and still lets
the company know that their trade secrets are intact because they don't have
to publish the interface... they can just write the driver themselves.

OS/2 supports anything there is a driver out there for.  The driver
interface is standard.  So, in a sense, it does support all standards, and
any non-standard device that has a driver.  The amount of effort for one
comany to write one driver is trivial compared to the effort that it takes
one company to write 10 (20? 30??) drivers.  To me, it makes the most sense.

Another problem is just what to define as a standard... How about SVGA?
There's three (more?) predominant chip sets out there... does that make them
standards too?

Chris
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: andrzej@bnr.ca (Andrzej Bieszczad)
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.,
	<1992Aug28.230812.8592@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 04:58:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.230812.8592@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan) writes:


   >
   >     This really gives me the willies.  Is IBM only going to support
   >OS/2 on IBM hardware?  And, if so, what would be the implications if
   >OS/2 were to dominate the PC operating system market?
   >

   This is a silly post.  Everyone knows that IBM supports OS/2 on all
   PC-compatible hardware and offers a money-back guarantee if they can't
   get it to work on your hardware.  Will Microsoft give me my money back
   if I can't get Windows 3.1 or NT to work on my hardware?  Microsoftians
   should check up on their facts before posting...

Actually, I have been waiting for a refund from Microsoft Canada
since June 26, 1992. I returned my Windows 3.1 (cannot run Smalltalk-80
for Windows 3.0 was the reason) by registered (Thanks God !!!) mail
on June 19. They received it on June 26. I called a few times and was
forced to send copies of my original letter and the mail registration
slip (they claimed that I should have sent the package to a person, not
an institution - too bad that they did not tell me that before I sent, 
though I spoke to a person representing the institution).
I sent the second letter three weeks ago - no word from Microsoft.
I am back at work on Monday after two weeks of vacation - I am going
to call the person at the institution.

I did not try to return OS/2, so I cannot say what would be the case
with IBM. However, I agree with the original posting that there are
many frustrated users, or would-be-users, that bought OS/2 (curiosity?)
and they put it aside. I do not mind running Excel, WinWord or PowerPoint
(all of them I consider excellent applications that I have been using
on Macs and PCs - cannot say bad word on Microsoft) under OS/2 even with
a small (I repeat SMALL) performance penalty, but OS/2 itself has so
many problems that it is not feasible yet. I am waiting for the "fall" (?)
CSD to decide once and for all whether I am switching to OS/2 or I am
staying in Windows 3.0. Amazingly, for the work that I do it has been
the best environment so far. Well - that is at home, so I am not after
Windows NT. My employer will be taking care of judging whether we should
replace UNIX with Windows NT. At home I can use Windows 3.0 and
see what will DOS 6.0 and Windows 4.0 bring.

Have a good day,
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: wrp@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Bill Pearson)
Subject: Re: Hercules vs OS/2
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 14:18:12 GMT

1) The original IBM-PC (1982) came either with the Monochrome adaptor
or the Color Graphics Adaptor (CGA).  The CGA had problems with
flicker, and the IBM monitor used with the Monochrome adaptor was of
exceptional quality for the time, so it made sense to make a
monochrome- type graphics adaptor, hence the Hercules.

2) As I recall, early versions of Microsoft graphics libraries for 'C'
did not support the hercules adaptor; I was very happy that Borland did.
Did Windows 2? (Was there a Windows 1?)

But I think it would make sense for IBM to support the hercules type
adaptor, as it is so inexpensive and readily available on clones.

Bill Pearson
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From: pd2n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter W. De Bonte)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: About this Hercules business (Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???)
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:22:22 GMT
	<92Aug31.200426.22661@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

	<92Aug31.200426.22661@acs.ucalgary.ca>
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: New kernel fix
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:23:32 GMT

genie@netcom.com (The Genie) writes:
>I've installed the kernel for about 2 weeks now, but have
>not yet noticed that \os2\system\swapper.dat change in size
>onece yet.  Did I install the kernel incorrectly if this is
>that case?  Or am I worrying about nothing.  The size
>is currently 4194304 bytes.  Thanks in advance.

CONFIG.SYS specifies a minimum size for swapper.dat.  Looks like yours
is set at 4 megs (4096).  Try running a whole lot of stuff at once,
then taking a look.
-- 
Surprise your boss.  Get to work on time.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: branham@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Tom Branham, Biophysics Grad. Brandeis)
Subject: Re: 0s2 compilers
Reply-To: branham@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:49:42 GMT

There are several good choices available right now in C/C++ compilers
for OS/2.  Watcom and Zortech both support 32-Bit OS/2 flat memory
models, as will Borland's new compiler(sometime before the end of
the year..).  Borland's development tools and OWL extensions are
supposedly going to be very close to the windows version so that 
existing code will be very simple to port with minor changes.  Borland
also stated that they were working very closely with IBM upon IBM's
C++ compiler due out sometime in the next year ( as an extension of
the C-set???)  Of course there is the IBM C-Set which also comes
with the workframe (Project management environment and full PM
debugger, as well as a resource toolkit (grinds out the code for
the majority of the GUI work).  It seems fairly complete (only
had it for a week now myself so will hold out a bit for full verdict :)
It has a good price right now (<$300?) Ido not however know when that is 
from and until......  FIRST though, I would suggest looking at
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu to see what might be in the best price range (free!!)
there.........Some other folks here would probably be better to askabout
g++ etc.....
                            .......Tom Branham
From: ANDY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Andrew T. Robinson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Just the bloody FAQs, maam
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:46:40 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Well, I've asked a variety of questions here and received no response,
so I can only assume no one else has any experiences like mine or that
my questions are answered in some FAQ.

How do I get the FAQ?

Andy
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc