From: ftoppin@eis.calstate.edu (Frank Topping)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher,misc.education
Subject: For Jack Crawford (subj. changed from: "satan")
Date: 19 Dec 92 12:16:20 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Jack and others,  
 
Wouldn't a "signed and returned, "Unified Logon Agreement" help here? ...I
mean, the user posting the message below is downstream from you - if you
can't control your own downstream nodes do you really think we want your
trash out here in California without some voice in it? 

A _really_ conservative California congressman gave me a call on this
issue a few days ago - the California Dept. of Drug & Alcohol Programs is
recommending that I go to the federal level and see about getting funds
jerked from schools participating in receipt of your net if you don't move
to curb the celebration of Alcohol and drugs in the conversation.

The chair of the EdTech committee thought the dangers were significant
enough that the issue needs to go to the California State Board of Education
after I pointed out to them that without a mandated _signed_ unified logon
agreement you were exposing the children to the dangers of rape & molest.

...you just had a kid post his address in FOURTEEN MESSAGES to an estimated
200,000 systems potentially able to receive around the world - same
distribution as this message.  ...he _also_ mentioned that he had two
younger sisters.  ...likely, never heard of you, yet you're endangering
their LIVES.  ...and they don't even know it.

You don't have to tear down the house to repair the foundation Jack.
Get your tender ego out of the way and _do it_.

Does the Wayne/Finger Lakes Teacher Resource Center's insurance company
know that you are purposely exposing them to risk?  ...do their grant
sources know that you're "pushing smut"?

Signed & returned "Unified Logon Agreements, parental advisories &
liability releases" and registration of sysops - contractually agreeing 
to enforce the above - is all you need. 

  ======== re: the following from downstream of your hub ========

!usernam.hidden!@p3.f650.n260.z1.fidonet.org (!usernam.hidden!) writes:
> Thank you for your support and please fill me in on what i wrote i for 
> got because i was hung over when i wrote it.  You See.
> well i hope to see you soon and let's talk about sex.
> 
> --  
> uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!260!650.3!usernam.hidden!
> Internet: !usernam.hidden!@p3.f650.n260.z1.fidonet.org

  ======== that was from a _female_ and she's got a "fan club" ========
  ======== brewing in the conference.                          ========
  ======== and re: the following post from co-founder's system ========

Date: Fri, 04 Dec 92 19:59:08 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta
 
5'7" eh?? Leer leer!!! grey blue eyes eh? <evil grin>!!
    s;ao        
  As you can see I'm uh,,,,sorta drunk...hmmm sorry...that was pretty
tasteless.
..hahahahahahahahah.
 
         so hkow's it hanging(jfiguritivlee of course) out in Ft. McMurray??
have you got some school BBS there or sunmthing?
 
heeeeeheeeeeeeeeee;asklwek i
 
oops, fforehad hit the katbord...
jhee
gotya leeeek...au revwar. BABE!!
heheheeeheeehehaahweehaaheehaaheeehaaheehaahee
muhu!
muhulakaheeheeiknoWUwanalamee!!
bye fal
for now
qwerty he
aksldfj
bbn  n  jfgo;eshkhwes'aghgh

    ======== or just in today:    ========

I live in Calgary and it is F&%$ing cold  here today..So you like U2 a
nd Faith No More....I can't believe thi
s..I like them too.
Is this the real thing...hahaha...get it...wow I'm getting dizzzzy...Don't
think
 I should have had  tht much  to drdink.  So Steph, can I call you Steph?,
what 
else do you like to do..gotta go and ge
t ssome sleeep....ZZZ zzz's...hehehehee...Bye for now...
                        I'll makee like a baby..and head out...<hehehehe>
|--  
|uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!134!49!
       
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Is Gordon Benedict proud of that?  ...he was sure bashing educators not
long ago for being slow to "come to grips with" technology.  ...his users
seem to be the heaviest in celebrating "getting stinking drunk" all the time.

Who the hell told you that we've called a "King's-X" in the "War on Drugs"?

I'd rather see 'em using slate and charcoal.

Damned sorry excuse for an education environment Jack - and if you don't
see this then I think America's parents ought to know which direction
some of their "educators" are taking the kids today.


Frank L. Topping, Sacramento