From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Keywords: DESIRE AND FEAR
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	<1992Aug23.211418.29467@ncsu.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:08:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.211418.29467@ncsu.edu> 
cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG) writes:
>To further explain and discuss the issue of homosexuality and to respond
>to some of the letters I have received.
>I would first like to thank the people who have the ability to discuss
>something in a mature fashion when the sides are strongly opposed and
>I would ask the people who wish to hurl insults to please stop sending
>me letters.

You haven't really thought this out, have you? Do you really think
purging the US of homosexuals serves any good? Why do you fear
homosexuality? What harm does it bring you?

>1) Homosexuality is a choice, consciousness or sub-consciousness. At any rate
>   can be changed.

Well, I guess. So? Hetero is also a choice as is monogomy. Why change
it? What harm does it do? What are you afraid of?

>1a) As someone metioned to me, social, conditions also affect a persons sexual
>    desires. 

Sure they do. The US has a highly dysfuntional sexual norm. This shows
up in the high percentage of sex related crime, like rape and child
molestation. Almost all of this is heterosex. Instead of distributing
free condoms in our schools to stop the spread of STD's and reduce the
teanage pregnancy rate, we say "Just say no". Sex is normal and normal
people will want to do it. "Just say no" just underlines our mainstream
sexual ignorance. Sex is the dance of dance, the ritual of ritual.
Protected sex with a condom is the answer, not "Just say no".

>4) Homosexuals were the firing gun for AIDS.

What does this mean? Homosex was not the vector of AIDS in Africa and it
is not the vector now in the US. The vector now is unprotected sex and
sharing needles. Most STD's start in the heterosex community, do you
propose a ban on heterosex? That is not the answer, the answer is 
CONDOM. Use one! And go enjoy life, just keep the jimmy in the glove.

>4a)  NOW, heterosexuals are as much to blame as homosexuals for the spread
>     of AIDS. Homosexuals are moer promiscous(sp) than heterosexuals, probably
>     b/c gay marraiges are not allowed. Nevertheless, it is this 
>     promescuity(sp) that caused AIDS to spred so quickly

I think you're jumping to conclusions based on the wrong data. I would
question whether or not homo's are more promiscuous than hetero's. I
notice a lot more hetero hoes than homo hoes. And I fail to see how
marriage has anything to do with it. There are many studies that show
most married couples are not faithful. Once again, you could outlaw sex
and IV drug use and kill all people found guilty and you might slow down
STD's, but this seems a little radical to me. What's wrong with
protected sex and clean needles? Do you HATE sex?
     
>5) Looking at the make up of a man and a woman, it is quite apparent that they
>    were made to go together sexually. Not so with male-male or female-female.

It sounds like your knowledge of sex is very limited. Sex is an amazing
thing, a thing that takes many years and much practice to master. Wam,
bam thank you mam penile-vaginal sex is just an option, one of many.
Don't limit yourself. Do you know what your largest sexual organ is?
Have you gone around the world yet? Sex is a wonderful thing, but use a
condom. It will save your life.

>5a)  I was referring to sexual compatibility as far as intercourse in 
>     concerned. It is quite apparent that the male penis has a purpose, 
>     that is to fit into the female vagina. 

You're limiting yourself and showing your sexual immaturity. Hang out on
alt.sex for awhile or even alt.sex.wizards, or better yet practice with
real people. Practice makes perfect and remember your dick is not your
only sexual organ. Discover the human body, it is wonderful, all of it.

>Someone also said that no one knows the reason God made people homosexual.
>My point is this: he obviously didn't make them that way--if he did-- why
>is it spoken against in the Bible?

What? Your allmighty creator didn't create homosexuals? Who did? The
Bible also recommends forced miscarriage in the case of a wife who may
have been unfaithful as well as a full description of tossing babies at
rocks so their heads are smashed. That is hardly the place to find
morality for today. The Bible is not a sex manual.

>If I missed a point that some one asked me and you'd like a responce,
>please post again. As you can imagine----I got a lot of mail from this.

Yeah, that's not surprising. There is a lot of misinformation in your
post. It is not surprising that people would want to point that out to
you. Sex is great, so have lots with whomever you please, assuming
consent of course. Don't get so hung up on homo/hetero differences. Just
us a CONDOM and have a ball.