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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:19:58 EST
From:         Brandon Magee <cuz@CHAOS.CS.BRANDEIS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Words
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              Fisher" at Nov 18, 92 10:47 am

While under delusions of grandeur, Jonathan Fisher spewed:
| This was polite.

        It was not (and still is not) meant as anything.

| >         Could you tell me his positions on homosexuals?
| I think he wants to shoot them! (no. just kidding, probably).

        You haven't answered my question. Does he have a position, or
are you irrationaly extrapolating what you think he wants to do?

| >         Not being a Californian, I certainly don't know all his
| > positions,
| But still you seek to talk like someone who knows something.

        Oh, but I do. I know what I have heard him say. I have
listened to him on various forums near a dozen times. Whether or not
that is enough for you to think I have the right toi say anything
about him, I don't know. Nor do I care.

| He certainly does have libertarian views.  Except when it comes to social
| issues then he feel that the more government involvement the better.  Oh
| and don't forget the military.  The libertarians (there are some on this
| list who can explain better) believe that the armed forces should be just
| enough to protect this country, Herschenson believes that USA ought to
| intervene in just about any country.  And sorry not even Reagan believes
| that at this point in our history military spending ought to INCREASE.

        Could you give me some info on Social issues? From what I have
heard from him, you might be correct that he isn't a Liberterian in
that sense. However, he seems to want to leave these social decisions
up to each individual state. at least that is my read.

        His policy on the Military is certainly one that a Liberterian
would not believe in. I am sorry I didn't make this clear (or even
really address it) in my first letter.

        As far as the Liberterians, Do they actually believe in a
NATIONAL military? I assumed that they would want to go back to a
system of state militias. Am I incorrect on this?

| >         4 is a misrepresentation. Bruce does not feel that Abortion
| > should be made legal on a federal level, and that states should be
| > able to make decisions as to whether or not it should be legal without
| > interference. Thus, He (as far as I know) has never advocated a
| > Constitutional Amendment banning abortion, although he personally does
| > not like abortion. (And would probably be a leader to make it illegal
| > in California).
| Believe what you want.  I have heard him say that he is in favor of
| an amendment.

        But are you sure he meant on a federal level, and not on a
state level? This is the point in which I am mostpositive on, as it
was addressed on almost every appearance I saw him on. Maybe he did
this too look good to them nasty National Voters, but he seemed honest
enough, and I certainly believed that this was his view.

| >         As for 6, I figure (not having heard him expouse any opinions
| > on it) that He does not want any time limits, or guns banned. Whether
| > or not that equates with Lets put a gun in everyone's hands is up to
| > each individual person. (Again, I think this fits with a strict
| > reading of the Constitution).
| A lot of constitutional authorities will disagree with you.  I wouldn't
| be surprised to find that Herschenson hasn't read the constitution.  As for
| his pro-gun position, let's just say that I find it scary.

        Let me express myself differently. With the way he (seemingly)
reads the Constitution (and I have no doubt he has read it), it fits
in well. I personally would disagree with him (as I interpret the
Constitution much differently than he (seemingly) does), but it
certainly is a valid reading. it is of course your personal right to
find it scary, and find that his opinions differ from yours.

| I think that the problem here is that you heard him once.  Herschenson spent
| 16 years (+ or -) on talk radio (maybe TV too).  He presents himself well.
| So it is not surprising that you and over 40% of Californians were sucked
into his web.  The fact is that an unbiased examination of all of Herschenson`s
| beliefs would make even you decide that he is too far right.  I admit that
| I stopped listening to him early because my mind was made up.  But I didn't
| stop soon enough to be disgusted by his beliefs.

        Jonathon, I never said I would vote for the guy, or that I
knew all of his positions. I don't. Your letter didn't help me in
finding out his positions. He is a good speaker, and he does present
himself well. And, since your mind is obviously biased, i wouldn't
mind hearing from another Californian about Bruce. Oh, and assuming
that I would decide he was too far right might be valid, but is
certainly not a smart thing to write. Assuming is always a bad thing
to do.

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