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From: dianeg@bcm.tmc.edu (Diane Ellen Griffiths)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: UGGG!
Date: 26 Aug 1992 14:42:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.161245.4714@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, liana@nexus.yorku.ca (Liana Becker) writes:
> I don't believe it!  I'm drowning in paperwork, my program refuses to
> work right (with 2 weeks to go), I'm working most of the night so there
> is no time to cook.  I've haven't eaten so badly for years...and today
> they put doughnuts on my desk...the jelly filled kind.  Does anybody have
> some ideas on how to survive this without gaining 10lbs?  We really don't
> have any free time to do anything but work (the laundry is threatening
> us :)  ) and I'm starting to feel the affects.  I haven't stepped on the
> scale because, well, I'm afraid to see just how bad it is.  Oh this should
> only last for 2.5 weeks as that is our deadline.
> 
> Liana

I know what you are going through with all that going on at work. For
some reason every day I have to fight the thought of food since
my office is outside from the kitchen area where some of the people
here seem to EAT CONSTANTLY!! It is so hard to stay on a food program like
Weight Watchers which I am on with this going on. Especially when they
bring in sweets and M & M's (which are one of my favorites) at least once
a week.  All I can say is for you to be strong and determined. So far I have
held off and not eaten anything anyone has brought in for about 1 year
now and it has not been easy! Of course I see that they are all gaining
weight and I am the only one with clothes that are to big!!
So far I have lost 30 pounds and have about 15 to go which seem to be
the hardest! I can't seem to get there very fast, but I am not gaining
anything back which is half the battle!


Diane

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From: shores@hiatt.unx.sas.com (Veronica Shores)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Salad fixin's with no fat
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:38:37 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

I just tried a new addition to salads that I really like:

It's single serving size cans of 3 bean salad (kidney, french, and green
beans) with no fat and only about 50 cals/serving.  They are in the 
grocery store with the canned vegetables. I bought them at a chain called
Food Lion, but I'm sure other stores have them. 

Delmonte (or maybe Green Giant?) makes them.  They come in a pack of 2 for 
about a $1 (US).  They also have 2 pack cans of beets and kidney beans
for salads.

This is really a great way to jazz up a salad without a lot of fat or
calories.  And since it comes in single serving sizes, there's no waste
(or temptation to overeat!) 

-- 
                     | 
Veronica L. Shores   |  "I'm gonna lower my standards and raise my price"
(shores@unx.sas.com) |                      --  John Hiatt
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: fran@Cadence.COM (Fran Peterson)
Subject: Re: Exercise calorie values
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:47:51 GMT

In article <63620009@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks) writes:
>For what it's worth, here are some of the physical activity numbers
>from the HMR program that I'm on.  Unless marked with a *, the numbers
>are scaled for a 150 pound person.  That is, if you weigh 195 pounds,
>multiply the figure by 1.3 to get the calories per whatever.  Things
>that don't scale are usually non-weight bearing activites, like
>stationaryf biking and (I'm told) swimming.
>

Peter:

Thanks so much for your posting.  I've often wondered about some of
these things.  And now when at the mall I can say "I'm not just
shopping, I'm working off calories!"   Last Friday I shopped til I
dropped for 6 hours in San Francisco.  That means about 600 calories.
And some great buys too!
From: dudley@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Karen Witkoski)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Twice nuked potatoes :-)
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:27:41 GMT
Expires: 18 Sep 92 04:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: dudley@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Karen Witkoski)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NSWC, Annapolis, Maryland

In alt.support.diet, jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd) writes:
>In article <f#dnr_q.rfelix@netcom.com>, rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix) writes
>:
>|>
>|> [deleted, Robbie's great-sounding potatoes
>
>Since it's just as easy to microwave scrubbed potatoes as to cube up and
>boil scrubbed or peeled potatoes, I'm going to try this real soon 'cept

Speaking of potatoes...I have a tough time microwaving potatoes.  I
follow the directions in my microwave cookbook but the potatoes turnvo
out hard.  I'm afraid to overcook them.  Here's what I do.

Wash potatoes (6 small).  Pierce them.  Put them on the bottom shelf
of the m'wave and zap them for about 10 minutes, turning them over twice.h
Then I wrap them in foil for a few more minutes.  Some parts of the
potato are done, but other parts are hard.  What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for any advice.

Karen
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: tlh8c@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas Lee Horton)
Subject: Re: A True Meal Planning Challenge [Help!]
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:27:29 GMT

I condense:  Annie Mitchell needs to feed herself and her daughter (14)
good healthy food when she gets home from work after a twelve-hour day.
She needs suggestions.

She needs a CROCK-POT.  They're inexpensive, and with a lean cut of
meat and a little water you can make fantabulous healthy food.  You
can also do beans in it, and it cooks so slowly, you can leave it 
cooking all day without fear of setting your house aflame.

My next "Food du jour" (due out soon) will contain a few Crock-Pot/
Slow-Cooker recipes.  With school starting back up soon, I'll be using
it a lot (and yet, I'll have more time for the NET).

Take care!

Tom
From: rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: A new-fangled potato salad
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:14:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


Potato salad a la Italiano

6 potatoes,sliced ( nuked,makes a difference!)
1/2 c. roasted red peppers,diced ( I found 'em in an import store , Yum!)
1/2 c. scallions,chopp
1/3 c. low or non-fat Italian dressing ( I used Marie's light and zesty)
2 Tblsp low cholesterol mayonaise ( optional, but I like it)
salt and pepper

Mix and eat.
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: atitude
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:34:37 GMT

when i bitched at my son for opening the single serving sized bag of
potato chips (which he was eating with strawberry cream cheese) he
said... "yeah, but if i open the regular bag i will eat until there is
no cream cheese and/or no potato chips left.  so this is better."

this is a definite improvement.

barb

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"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: bf697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roderick Soo)
Subject: I need some info on 'Herbalife'
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 04:33:28 GMT


I would like some information on Herbalife.
I hear that this is different way of dieting as you can still
eat normally and lose wight at the same time. This product is 
supposed to be all natural and is chemical free.
Is there anyone outthere who is actually on this product or 
distrubutes the product or knows of anyone who is etc. to  e-mail
this information to me telling me about what you know and your
past experiences.


Thanks...

Rod...  8-)

-- 
To Be Or Not To Be??
I Think I'd Like To Be.....
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: dieting and self-image
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:51:26 GMT

All these msgs remind me of someone I used to know who lost a LOT of
weight on WW.

When she'd achieved her goal, instead of being happy, she was bitter.
We were at a party and she was complaining that none of the guys were
noticing her.  What *I* saw was that she was hanging around the same
guys who knew her when she was overweight (and who were classmates and
viewed her more as a "sister") rather than hanging around new people.

Whoever it was that said that whoever's going to like you will do so
no matter WHAT you weigh is right.

Ironically, I find it easier to lose weight when things are going
wrong in my life.  I have less of a desire to eat when I feel like crud.

--Lynn
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Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: liana@nexus.yorku.ca (Liana Becker)
Subject: Thanks
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:52:05 GMT

Hi,

	Thanks for the letters of support I received.  Although I'm still
in a major crunch time (and my laundry is still threatening me) I (we) have
gotten back to much better eating.  Its finally gotten to the point that
when my secretary does me the "favour" of bringing me a dounut in the 
mornings that I can turn it down.  On the otherhand I still don't make
lunchs but there is a takeout Sushi place on campus so I've been eating
there.
	When this crunch is all over, I'll weigh myself and see how I
faired.  Well I've got to run..... again and again and again.

liana

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Fit For Life/Food Combining
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 09:26:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Reply-To: alt.support.diet,sci.med

What is known about the eating principles in "Fit For Life" and "Fit
For Life-II"? These include eating high water-content foods (fruits
and vegetables), food combining, the rules for eating fruit for good
digestion, and the elimination of most meat and dairy products.

What is known about Tony Robbins eating principles, which extend
the Fit for Life principles to exclude all meat, fish, and dairy,
as well as soy?

I'm interested in facts, not opinion.

Full disclosure: after being a big meat-eater, and quite obese, I went
on Robbins' program a month ago. So far I've lost about 25 pounds, and
feel energetic and healthy. I still have quite a way to go to reach
my target weight goal.

I don't refer to it as a "diet" because it is a lifetime eating
program that doesn't change once I've reached my target weight. I've
tried just about every diet known to medical science, and I am the
perfect statistical sample point; they last about 3 months, then I go
off them, and gain back at least as much weight as I've lost, over the
subsequent period. And the proprietors of those diets always blame me
for the failure, not the diet, using such phrases as "lack of will
power" etc. I've tried straight calorie reduction via smaller portions
(popular in the '50s), Atkins, Weight Watchers (where I actually made
my goal weight and became a "Lifetime" member), Liquid Protein under
medical supervision (that one lasted for about nine months and I
reached my goal weight), Optifast (under hospital supervision), and
Jenny Craig. I started out a little overweight (185 needing to be 165
in college) and by the time the above process was complete I had
reached 325.

Since this one is "how I eat" rather than a "diet" I have a sense
(but no empirical evidence of my own yet) that this one will last
for the rest of my life. Being no dummy, I continue to take a daily
vitamin supplement of the conventional variety (Centrum), just to
make sure I'm not missing something.

David
From: manes@bass.bu.edu (Michelle Manes)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: How come I don't lose weight?
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:26:34 GMT
Reply-To: manes@bass.bu.edu (Michelle Manes)
Followup-To: alt.support.diet
Organization: Boston University

In article <87804@netnews.upenn.edu> slawe@pobox.upenn.edu (Lauren T. Slawe) writes:
>
>I just moved back to school.  Got my first kitchen too.  My mother
>went out and bought me tons of food.  What do I do???  I love to cook and
>bake, and I'm already snacking and snacking.  This is going to be one
>bad year.  And after all that teriffic summer dieting and exercising.
>

First of all, saying "this is going to be bad..." is the best way to
insure it will be.  I love to cook and bake too.  I compensate two
ways:  I learned to cook and bake lots of low-fat tasty meals.  Every
now and then I want to back something really decadent -- with realy
butter and sugar and cream... So I bake it for someone else.  The
people at my work and my husband's work have never complained!  (Do,
of course, make sure that the people you cook for appreciate it.
Skinny, high-metabolism types are best.  We all know what it's like
when someone tries to be nice by bringing you a donut or a cookie...:>)


>It's going to be hard with studying getting in the way of all that 
>great exercise I've been doing...  Suggestions?  Or any one else 
>in the same boat so that we can give each other mutual motivation?
>

I'm more worried about winter weather because most of my summer
exercise has been out-of-doors and I've just never been a cold
weather person.  (So why did she move to Boston from CA?  Good
question!!)  Anyway, I get very stressed out and tense from
multiple hours of studying, and exercise is one of the best breaks
you can take.  Go for a walk before studying the next subject, or
do a 30 min. aerobic tape, or whatever.  Just make the exercise
a priority too.

michelle


--
Michelle Manes		|	"What should I be when I grow up?"
manes@bass.bu.edu	|	"Honest."
			|	-Robert M. Pirsig
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: melissa@spanky.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Melissa Probst)
Subject: Re: Potatoes
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:34:27 GMT

In article <25960@dog.ee.lbl.gov> sebhis@dante.lbl.gov (Sarah Bretz) writes:
>
>In alt.support.diet, dudley@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Karen Witkoski) writes:
>
>> Speaking of potatoes...I have a tough time microwaving potatoes.  I
>> follow the directions in my microwave cookbook but the potatoes turnvo
>> out hard.  I'm afraid to overcook them.  Here's what I do.
>> 
>> Wash potatoes (6 small).  Pierce them.  Put them on the bottom shelf
>> of the m'wave and zap them for about 10 minutes, turning them over twice.h
>> Then I wrap them in foil for a few more minutes.  Some parts of the
>> potato are done, but other parts are hard.  What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>
>Are you saying you wrap potatoes in foil and then microwave them?
>I thought aluminum foil was not supposed to be used in a microwave.
>
I'm sure that Karen meant that she wraps the potatoes in foil after
microwaving.  The potatoes will continue to cook for a while after
you take them out of the oven, the foil helps them cook longer.

Melissa

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Melissa Probst
System Administrator
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
4800 Oak Grove 301-250D
Pasadena, CA 91109

email: melissa@spanky.jpl.nasa.gov
From: geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: CHALLENGE--Write in your ideas! Please
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:53:05 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

I, sure I'm speaking for many, want to thank Pete B. for his not-too-long-
at-all post on motivating factors and exercise for him. I'd also like to
congratulate my diet partner for her loss of 3# this week (I know you're
out there reading this! C'mon. Smile and take a bow)

It occurred to me tonight that I very often have a large salad with a little
meat or lot of fish on the side for dinner. What makes me eager for the 
salad? HOMEMADE CROUTONS (never met a carbohydrate I didn't like). I just
cut slices of French or Italian bread into big chunks, then toast them in a
350 oven until they're crunchy. Sometimes I spray them with oil and dust
them with garlic powder and herbs, but that's really not necessary. I find
that having lots of croutons, mixed with everything else, before the dressing,
automatically gives me something I love in every salad. Usually I have what-
ever bread exchanges I have left over from the day mixed in--2 breads worth
gives you a facsimile of Italian bread salad.

PUBLIC CHALLENGE:
So . . . what does everybody else out there do to keep happy with greenery?
Can everyone write in and let us know? I can always use new (and cheap)
ideas.

I'd also recommend heating a pan, spraying it with a little oil, then putting
in fresh turkey tenderloins that have been covered with cajun spices. Cook 
over low/med heat until done. You may have to slice, then cook the slices a
little. Great, easy meal (with salad with croutons). Everybody have a 
successful day. You deserve it.

Patricia
-- 
P.K.
Geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
From: M21444@mwvm.mitre.org
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Congrats!!!
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:56:10 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102


 
Congratulations to Tom and everyone else who lost
a few pounds!  That's a great accomplishment --
be proud and keep it up!  The more I read, the more
I wanted to post my own loss....er, maybe next week  :).
 
But I got a new bicycle last night -- can't wait to
take it for a spin after work today.  It had never
occurred to me to buy a bicycle; haven't had one
since high school.  But on vacation a few weeks ago,
I borrowed a friend's bike and had a ball!  I doubt
I'll ever be a "serious" cyclist, but it was fun and
relaxing.
 
The best part was -- my SO and I finally found an
athletic activity we can enjoy together!  He's not
into aerobics or walking, and I'm not into basketball
or golf (although I do go along for the walk
occasionally :-) or softball (even though we fell in
love playing on the same team).
 
So thanks again for the inspiration everybody.  Let's
all report a loss next week!!!
 
Christine
 
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix)
Subject: Re: Aargh. Wrench thrown in diet.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:15:34 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Aug27.203634.27382@athena.mit.edu> scotti@mtl.mit.edu (Gretchen Fuller) writes:
>Hi --
>
>Soup is soft and not necessarily high fat or high
>calorie.  Yogurt.  Ummmmm.  A glass of milk.  
>Some of the instant hot cereals are low-fat and
>low-cal.
>
>Scotti


Scotti!

You are brilliant!

I love to eat Maypo, Cream of wheat or other hot cereals when I am
craving sweet stuff!

I can have a large serving of cooked cereal with a big dollop of
fruit-only spreads and/or cinnamon, sugar, or maple syrup and have
very few calories ( compared to the satisfaction derived!) and NO fat!

Hot cereal is very satisfying yet very low in fat or calories, Great
stuff!


rf


Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: kaf@portia.caltech.edu (Flanagan, Kathleen Ann)
Subject: Re: Twice nuked potatoes : -)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:47:00 GMT

In article <24458@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, dudley@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Karen Witkoski) writes...
> 
>Speaking of potatoes...I have a tough time microwaving potatoes.  I
>follow the directions in my microwave cookbook but the potatoes turnvo
>out hard.  I'm afraid to overcook them.  Here's what I do.


Well, Here's my two cents.  I have a carousel microwave and what
I do is pierce the potatoes, nuke on high for 3-5 minutes(depending
on size), turn over and nuke from 3-5 minutes (based on how they felt) 
then throw them in the toaster oven at 400 or 450 for 5 minutes.
I think this makes them taste more "baked" than steamed and I
like the crisp skin.

Also, if you haven't tried cutting up fresh tomatoes on potatoes
you should, it is a good combination

Kathy  kaf@hamlet.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.support,alt.recovery
From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: Re: Need Support re Job
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:01:13 GMT


For job problems: find what you have to be interested in your job, and
get interested into it. Or the hard way: get a new job and get really
interested into it. Make it a lifestyle.

I figured this out too late, when I already had left a very good
workplace behind.

-- 
jjj@mits.mdata.fi     Thanks, Life; thanks, Death    And the other me:
jjj@niksula.hut.fi    for freeing me from self       Jenny L{rv{joki
From: erc@khijol.upl.com (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.support
Subject: Why Live?
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:15:09 GMT
Reply-To: erc@apple.com

I recently went through a perion in my life where personal tragedy was piled
on top of personal tragedy (to be fair, I'm not out of the woods yet).
I had an SO walk out on me, I was involved in an auto accident that killed one
person and severely brain injured another, etc.  I found myself on more than
one occasion seriously contemplating suicide as a way to end what I felt was
my own personal hell, something which many here could probably identify
with personally. :(

In one of my more lucid moments, I realized that I wasn't *ready* to go -- I
hadn't done lots of things that I wanted to do, and I certainly didn't want
to die in my apartment, bleeding to death, or perhaps with a bullet in my
head - dying alone, unwanted, unloved.  I didn't want to be remembered that
way.  So...I hope this gives someone some comfort at those times in everyone's
life when they are at the end of their rope - or feel like it...

                      When I Go

When I go,
when I leave this earth,
I want to be
surrounded
by the people I love
and who love me
so much that you wouldn't be able to cut it with
a knife!
I want to be able to say that I had done my best, and I had
touched
people in a way that no one ever had
and done good.
I want to be able to say that I had loved, but had
not
lost!
I want to pass over easy, happy, satisfied at a
life well led,
not in pain and agony and misery, by my
own hand.
And I've decided not to
die
until I've had what I want!
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com, khijol!erc@saturn.upl.com       801/538-0177

"I never thought I'd see the President of the United States on nationwide TV,
giving out 1-800 numbers."    -- Susan Spencer, CBS White House correspondent