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From: prc@uk.co.gec-mrc (Peter Chalmers)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Video Plus
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:07:55 GMT
Organization: GEC-Marconi Research Centre, Great Baddow, UK
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Do the PDC codes on teletext identify the *the particular episode of the
programme* or *the programme itself*? For example, if I want to record
"Film 93" (and yes I know the BBC aren't using PDC at the moment - it's
just a good example of a programme which seems to hop randomly around
the schedules), would I have to set a PDC video every week for each
episode, or can I just tell it once to "record Film 93" and leave it to
it?

In case that's not clear I suppose the question could be rephrased as:
would "Film 93" have the *same* PDC code transmitted with it for every
episode, or would the code vary from week to week?

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From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: HYPNOSIS, Hypnotic Regression.
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:19:23 GMT
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <1993Jan7.164156.2678@dct.ac.uk>, ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) writes:
> In article <1993Jan7.142334.2903@lsl.co.uk>, snail@lsl.co.uk writes:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Odd request this, but..
>> 
>> I want to find some people who can induce hypnotic regression, you know, where
>> they take you back to some earlier point in your life to work through something
>> in the past. I'd also like to know who NOT to go to.
> 
> Take care here. While this can probably help in some cases I believe
> that "False memory syndrome" under regression hypnosis is now well
> documented.
> 
> Faulty recall of child abuse, alien abduction and satanic covens can
> be induced by the hypnotist merely suggesting things to the patient.

I'm pretty sure no of these have happened in the past, I know what the problem 
is (well the vague area), I want it sorted.
> 
>> 
>> I have some things I want our of my head, seems like one way to go about it.
> 
> As long as you take care as to what else might be got into your head...

This is a potential problem, I admit.
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From: gedge@cm.cf.ac.uk (Geraint A Edwards)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Teletext services (was Video Plus)
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:20:25 GMT
Organization: I'm at, not speaking for: Uni of Wales, College of Cardiff

davidf@spider.co.uk (David Fraser) writes:
} sub-page selection - particularly useful when you want to see
} page 40 of 40. Does anyone implement it? Are there plans to? Or did I just
} make up the whole thing? Would I need a new telly to use this feature?

This has been a feature of teletext since the early days, if I
understand you.  On my (fairly unimpressive) Hitachi TV, one
hits the sub-page button (usually combined with the timer
button) and four zeroes appear. Then type the number of the page
(in your example, '40'), then press the update button and wait
for the update sign to appear, saying that sub-page 40 is ready
to be viewed.  It's no faster than waiting for it to come around.

Gedge
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From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Date: 7 Jan 93 10:21:50 GMT
Distribution: uk
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mathew (mathew@mantis.co.uk) wrote:
: rspence@cix.compulink.co.uk (Richard Spence) writes:
: > mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
: > > I want to buy LaserDiscs instead of video cassettes, for the same reason I
: > > prefer CD over cassette.  But nobody else wants LaserDisc, so nobody makes
: > > them.
: > 
: > The latest (Jan '93) issue of CompuServe magazine carries an advert for {Ken
: > Crane's LaserDisc Superstore} and states that they have 100,000 titles
: > _currently_ in stock and sales of over 30,000 discs per month.  If this
: > advert is to be believed, then the LaserDisc is alive and well in the USA.

: Er, yeah, because over there people wanted to buy them.

: Unfortunately, I don't want LaserDisc if it's NTSC LaserDisc!

I thought that LaserDiscs had begun to pick up a bit in the UK because
machines are now available that will play PAL or NTSC discs, though
I gather that this compatibility is not being widely advertised
for "political" reasons.


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From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Transport subsidies - Was: Car Parking
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 17:45:12 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

snail@lsl.co.uk writes:
> In article <i9NVVB21w165w@mantis.co.uk>, mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
> > Let's suppose there's a desperately ill orphan with no telephone, no
> > vehicles, and no legs.  How does it get to where it *NEEDS* to go in this
> > so-called free road transport system of yours?  Eh?!  Eh?!  Answer me that!
> 
> ["so-called free road system" referring to our current road system as opposed
> to a no-taxes, toll-road, no-health, no-education, pay for it yourself etc
> system...]
> 
> No problem.
[...]
> Now if you'd like to answer the original question, despite the fact it wasn't
> aimed at you...

I think you missed my point.  Those arguing against the free market are
coming up with increasingly unlikely and bizarre situations where it might
break down, in an effort to show that the free market can't work.  I decided
to come up with an unlikely and bizarre situation where the current setup
doesn't work, and exaggerate it for comic effect (TM).

See, in the real world there are vanishingly few people who have *no* money,
and those were the people you were arguing would be out of luck in the free
market.  It's also the case that those few who have *no* money are just as
stiffed by the current subsidised road setup.

So if you want to be reasonable, the question is not to do with orphans with
no money or legless babies.  It is to do with whether a free market would
provide cheap enough transport for most people who need it.  And if not,
whether charity could provide for ambulances and the like for the rest.

In spite of the arguing which has gone on, I have yet to see much concrete
evidence that transport will be more expensive (in terms of how much time
you'll have to work to be able to afford to travel a distance x) under a free
market. 


mathew
From: cs92njc@brunel.ac.uk (Nicholas J Clayton)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Ariston music
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:13:51 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK


Someone asked where the music from the Ariston ad came from. And I've just
deleted the thread. Oops.

Anyway, AFAIK the music is from Robocop (2?), not for the Commodore 64, but
for the NES (at least, I think it was a console rather than a computer).

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Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: Modem problem
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:13:54 GMT

Andy Ingle (andy@acorn.co.uk) wrote:
: chl@clw.cs.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) writes:
: 
: >The trouble is that, if someone takes another phone on the same line
: >off-hook whilst the modem is modeming, one hears the carrier for a
: >few seconds, and then it is dropped. Is this a problem with modems in
: >general, with my modem in particular, or am I doing something wrong?
: 
: This is a problem with modems in general.  The only discussions I've
: seen on possible solutions have been centred on disabling other phones
: while modeming or proving them with some kind of "line busy" light.

It is dependent to some extent on the line itself.
I have found that the connection is unlikely to be killed on a PBX line.
It may also depend on how sensitive your modem is.

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From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: Re: BT credit lists?
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:54:15 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Michael Saunby (swssauby@susssys1.reading.ac.uk) wrote:
: >Is this really true that credit ratings of addresses are used to determine in
: >advance the likely creditability of a person living there, does anyone know?

: It is probably a good way of getting around the data protection act as I guess
: you can store any information you like about an address.

They are/were, but the data protection registrar has stepped in so it
certainly won't be possible for a credit rating agency to use the
rating of anyone else was lives/has lived at that address. I would
assume that more widescale ratings may be permissible - i.e. deciding
anyone who lives in postcode area XY4 is probably a bad risk - what
will be disallowed will be to say that anyone living at 42 Acacia
Avenue can't be trusted as Joe Bloggs who lived there 5 years ago was
made bankrupt.

: >I am
: >concerned that we may be entering the time when if you are unusual enough NOT
: >to have credit cards then as you have no positive credit references you 
: >suffer almost as though you had a negative reference.

You've obviously never tried to check into a US hotel - scanning your
credit card is (virtually) a prerequisite - even if you intend to pay
some other way.

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From: swssauby@susssys1.reading.ac.uk (Michael Saunby)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: Re: BT credit lists?
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:30:34 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

mjl@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>I recently tried to request of BT (on 150) that a phone be installed for
>an elderly relative who has lived in his rented house for nearly 40 years
>but without a phone.

>They seemed to have some problems with this, and I was not getting what I would
>expect to be the usual "certainly sir , pleased to have a new customer" type of
>response.

>Without going into too much detail, the problem seemed to centre around the
>absense of his ADDRESS on their computer database. I pointed out that since he
>had never had a phone then they probably dont have his address! However, they
>seemed to be referring to some kind of credit listings, which apparently are
>concerned with credit ratings of addresses rather than the people who live
>there. 

This does sound familiar.  A few years ago my wife (then girlfriend) had
problems getting a store charge card.  She gave her parents address as
her previous address, a farm house named on OS maps but of course with no
number or street name.  At the time I put it down to the woman entering the
data being unable to deal with unusual addresses.

>Is this really true that credit ratings of addresses are used to determine in
>advance the likely creditability of a person living there, does anyone know?

It is probably a good way of getting around the data protection act as I guess
you can store any information you like about an address.

>I might point out that in this case the address probably has never held credit
>because he always paid up front and bought nothing he could not afford. He even
>offered to pay up front at the BT shop but there is no mechanism for that! I am
>concerned that we may be entering the time when if you are unusual enough NOT
>to have credit cards then as you have no positive credit references you 
>suffer almost as though you had a negative reference.

Too late it has already happened!

>Martin Loach
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From: toby@cs.man.ac.uk (Toby Howard)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: white pages
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:21:35 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester

I have heard that it is possible to register free with BT to obtain on-line
access to the entire UK directory. Can anyone provide more details?

And while I'm here -- why does the EYP exclude Hull?

Thanks
Toby
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From: nib@crosfield.co.uk (nigel bromley)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: 112
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:03:20 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.


I read in the press over the Christmas break that from 1993-01-01 it will
be possible to use the "Eurostandard" emergency number 112 alongside our
existing 999.

One of you experts out there is bound to be able to tell me how many
countries already have 112?



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Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk (Richard Cox)
Subject: Re: Detecting phone going off hook      
Cc: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:47:00 +0000

pete@tecc.co.uk (Pete Bentley) asked, as a related point:

>>  The 'phone lines in question are all extensions of a PABX (well, a GPT
>>  iSDX digital switch, actually...), and so aren't connected directly to
>>  the BT network.  Can we connect things without a green BABT approved
>>  sticker (eg the box described above) legally?

No.  Anything connected MUST be BABT approved, and comply with BS6301

>>  After all, the worst case scenario would be that we fry a line card in
>>  the iSDX, which would have no effect on BT.

The worst case scenario is that you fry a maintenance engineer who, unbeknown
to you, might have been working on the iSDX at the time.

Richard D G Cox

Mandarin Technology, Cardiff Business Park, Llanishen, CARDIFF, Wales CF4 5WF
Voice: +44 222 747111      Fax: +44 222 711111      VoiceMail: +44 399 870101
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Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk (Richard Cox)
Subject: BT credit lists?                        
Cc: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:14:00 +0000

rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes about a different person being the
"official" BT subscriber than the actual person who pays the bill:

>>  The disadvantage is that (Martin)'s name will appear at the ER's address
>>  in the directory (sorry, 'phone book).

Only if that's what you want.  The name in the Phone Book is as the customer
(i.e. billpayer) stipulates.  Just tell the Phone Book department in writing
exactly what you want to appear for that number.

But it would be better to stop this ridiculous charade soonest:  I know that
Bill Wigglesworth (Director General of Telecomms) would be extremely unhappy
to learn of such antics on the part of BT - and if anyone would like to make
Mr Wigglesworth unhappy, they are most welcome to mail full details via me.

Richard D G Cox

Mandarin Technology, Cardiff Business Park, Llanishen, CARDIFF, Wales CF4 5WF
Voice: +44 222 747111      Fax: +44 222 711111      VoiceMail: +44 399 870101
E-mail: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: dingram@dims.demon.co.uk ("Darren P. Ingram")
Subject: Re: Answering machine that calls out 
Distribution: world
Organization: Darren Ingram Media Services
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 11:14:40 +0000

In article <Steve.00pa@donald.demon.co.uk> Steve@donald.demon.co.uk writes:

>Is there such a thing as an answering machine which will call a specific
>number programmed into it when someone has left a message?

Mercury Paging used to provide one that called its pager. For the life of me
presently I cannot remember who provided it.


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From: gtoal@cursci.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Answering machine that calls out 
Distribution: world
Organization: Current Drugs
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:09:08 +0000


In article <JON_SREE.93Jan10192020@world.std.com> jon_sree@world.std.com writes:
>called Answer Page, company name not mentioned, $249 also, specifically 
>has beeper call-out capability : "after your caller hangs up, it 
>instantly calls your beeper ... to tell you a message has arrived...
>A number code you've pre-programmed will appear on your pager ... etc".
>Hello Direct is at 800-444-3556 or 408-972-1990

How do you call out to someone's pager without having to talk to a
human operator?  I thought only the Americans had modem access to pagers?

G
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: keith@unipalm.co.uk (Keith Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Answering machine that calls out 
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:54:31 GMT

gtoal@cursci.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:

>How do you call out to someone's pager without having to talk to a
>human operator?  I thought only the Americans had modem access to pagers?

Not at all. BT & Mercury Paging, Rabbit, and Vodapage for one all support
services where a phone number (there are various STD codes associated with paging
services) maps uniquely to a given pager. For some, (e.g. Rabbit), you get
connected to a Voicemail box at the same time as the page goes out.

A variation on this (Mercury, Vodapage), is that instead of being
connected to a voicemail box, you get connected to a DTMF decoder,
to which you can key in a number that will appear on the message
window of a numeric pager so they can phone you back.

Finally, if the person you are paging has a alphanumeric pager, some
paging services support access via modem or X.25. We use this with
Mercury, I think BT offer this as well. This makes hooking up the
PIPEX network fault alarm software to generate automatic pages, with
a message about what has gone down, fairly straightforward.

The variation I would like on the above options is a Voicemail box
that can be remotely re-directed to a chosen number. This way I
could have it take messages for me, *or* follow me to the nearest
phone, *or* bleep me via whichever pager I happen to be carrying
around. If anyone knows of a voicemail service that does this in the
UK, I would be keen to know more.

Keith Mitchell                 Network Manager

Public IP Exchange             keith@pipex.net
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Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: gtoal@cursci.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Guest has run up HUGE bill 
Distribution: world
Organization: Current Drugs
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:10:32 +0000


In article <726770270snz@gbd.demon.co.uk> grahame@demon.co.uk writes:
>>made? (e.g., disabling international calls)
>>
>I think you can do that with star services.

Note his calls were via *OPERATOR*.

G
From: adr@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tony Roberts)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: Guest has run up HUGE bill
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:57:43 GMT

A friend of mine has a relative from America staying with him at the
moment (the sort who reminds one of the saying - "You can choose your
friends, but not your relatives"). During his short stay he has run up
a huge phone bill by calling the States. Many of the calls are in the
10 to 15 pound range and are coded OIPX - where:

	O = Operator Connected
	I = International
	P = Personal?
	X = Transfer somewhere or other

Can anyone explain what this guy has been doing? Has he phoned the
operator here and asked to be connected to the operator there and
then.... 

Moreover - can anything be done to prevent this kind of call being
made? (e.g., disabling international calls)

Any comments would be appreciated,

Thanks,

Tony R.
From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: Re: BT credit lists?
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:50:22 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1993Jan7.100331.11097@vax.oxford.ac.uk>,
mjl@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Martin Loach) writes about BT being unsure about
taking on a new subscriber (sorry, customer).

When I moved out of my own (shared) home last year, BT wanted a huge
deposit from my wife to allow her to take on responsibility for the
bill.  Our solution was that I should remain formally responsible for
the bill at the joint house.  As a result I now appear twice in the
Cambridge directory.  The stupid thing about the situation was that we
had shared the business of dealing with the utilities, so that my name
appeared on electricity and telephone bills, while hers appeared on
the gas and rates.  I retained "responsibility" for the electricity
bill, too, when I left.

If Martin's elderly relative doesn't mind, and if Martin trusts him, I
would suggest that _Martin_ take on the position of being the BT
subscriber (sorry, customer) at his relative's address.  The bill will
appear on the mat with Martin's name on, but there's nothing to stop
the ER paying it.  The disadvantage is that Martin's name will appear
at the ER's address in the directory (sorry, 'phone book).
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