From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Polygamy - Some remarks... (Re: Thanks, En. Othman - honestly)
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:52:53 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <3375@peking.gdwb.oz.au>, mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:
> ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
> 
> For goodness sake, we are talkingabout a SOCIETY which advocates
> polygamy , & not how rampant is premarital sex etc. You like to beat
> around the bush & digress, & throw your follies around. Are you

	Sorry.  Mistake on my part.  I tend to equate polygamy with morality,
and that is also equated with premarital sex.  Of course there are polygamous
people who do not believe in premarital sex.  Oh yeah, for those not in the
know, in Islam, if you marry two wifes, you have to treat them *EQUALLY* in
_every_ way!

>>century.  And China... how do you think they got 1.3 billion population? :)
> implying that China has 1.3 billion population because of premarital
> sex & immorality ? What a shallow minded & ignorant person you are.

	Actually right now they are "discovering" the joys of sex according to
some reports.  Seems that venereal diseases in China is on the rise.  That
tends to be equated with immorality.  However, my roommate thinks premarital
sex is still rare (he's from China).  So I don't really know.  But I do know
that I stuck a smiley behind.  That part was a humourous (intended to be
anyway) part.

> Yes, nothing wrong with the definition of your trusty dictionary !
> The mistake lies with you brain, which can't see the words "TRY to"
> before the word 'impose'. I have purposely put it in CAP, for

	Go talk to a jury and ask them what's the difference between a murder
and a "TRY to" murder.  Only difference is one's not resourceful enough to
succeed.  And the expense of a lawyer needed... :)

> fear of people like you & yet my fear came true !!
> What else do you expect me to do ?

	You could try to be less insulting.
> 
>>	True...  But there is the peer pressure for not conforming with the
>>norm.  Charles Darwin was said to have taken back his "Evolution" theory
>>because the Church threaten to excommunicate him.  Or was it Galileo's theory
>>that Earth wasn't the center of the universe?
> 
> Call it peer pressure, call it ex-communication, call it whatever
> you like, they are still different from blatant FORCE, Got It ??

	Do you know what is ex-communication?  Please don't throw around words
like this without understanding the full implications behind it.  For true
Christians, excommunication is a fate worse than death itself.  No, I wouldn't
call it force....NOT!  And you claim I have something wrong with my brain.

>>> 1. God would have created 4 eves or more  for Adam if that was His
>>> intention.
> 
>>	As a Christian, that is your belief.  However, there are those of
>>other religions, as well as non-creationists who do not believe in Adam & Eve. 
> 
> Why do you have to single out Christianity again ? How about Islam ? How
> about Judaism ?? The list could go on .

	Yes.  The list could go on.  How about if I said all monotheistic
religions?  And I did not single out Christianity.  Look at the sentence
structure again.  I said "As a Christian" (which I assume you to be, since you
get so riled up whenever someone (me) criticises it).
> 
>>Anyway, for every 100 guys born, there're about 113 girls born.  If there is no
>>premarital sex, extramarital sex, etc etc how do you expect the extra 13 girls
>>(per 213) to ever experience the joys of sex?  And don't forget, males
>>traditionally have the more dangerous jobs, as well as a shorter life span then
>>females...  (and yes, this is said with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek!)
> 
> Your reasoning above again is totally flawed. Ask yourself whether it make
> any sense at all . 

	Ask yourself if you have any sense of humour at all.  Key phrase to
keep in mind "tongue-in-cheek".

>>> 2. A society which practises polygamy is a society living in
>>> the past, a male chauvinist society, a society living in hell
> 
>>family living in USA (in the Nevada deserts, I believe) which has a guy as the
>>head of the family and about 8 females as his wifes and all of them seem to
>>accept it quite well.  One wife's a lawyer, another's a teacher, forgot what
> 
> Do I have to repeat that we are talking about A SOCIETY WHICH
> ADVOCATES POLYGAMY', ? & not odd individual cases like what you
> said ? 
> Who doesn't know that you do find real weird cases here & there; 
> even in this net ?

	Do read my original posting again.  I said "... my point is that you
may be too harsh on things that you don't understand."  While you are at it you
may also want to look at my stand on the morality of it.  Interesting how you
pick out certain things and leaves out others.  Oh yeah, the Mormons are a
society too!  And I seem to remember reading the case in a Sociology text book.
Anyway, I thought you were talking about polygamy in general.  Oh yeah, there's
a difference between "advocate" and "let".

>>	Also, why do you sound like you quite dislike the male part of the
>>population?
> 
> Do I ? Oly anti-polygamy please !

	Sorry.  Misunderstanding on my part.  Your strong tones you see... 
Anyway, interesting topic this one.  And before I leave, I want to leave one
last thought with you...  I do not support polygamy.  I only pointed out some
things, including one which goes something like "Do not condemn what you don't
know/understand."  Read my original posting again.
	Ciao.

-Tai
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