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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Accessing fossils in C
From: Pat Cain <patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 16:02:27 +1300
Organization: Sideways Bulletin Board, Lower Hutt, New Zealand

Does anyone have some C functions that interface with PC fossil drivers?
I have a few programs I want to convert to use fossils instead of
Waffle's stdout handling.

Please reply via e-mail if possible.


Thanks

Pat.
From: kilgore@obelisk.pillar.com (Stan Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: /expire=5 ??
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:45:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: obelisk.qi8sTB1w165w
Distribution: world
Organization: Pillar Communications, Oklahoma City, Ok

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> Waffle ignores the parameter that you supply to /expire .  Waffle's only opti
> for expiring articles is /keep= ; you need to use one of the add-on expiratio
> utilities if you want to expire by days.  (I use a heavily modified version o
> Roy Silvernail's NUEXPIRE.PL; I hear that Mathew's expire is pretty good if
> you don't want to use perl.)

    I would also like to point out that I have a modified version of
    cwexp104 (a wonderful program) that will leave the last article
    in a newsgroup regardless of the expire setting.  If anyone is
    interested drop a note.

    Kilgore



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From: eschwart@netcom.Netcom.COM (Eric Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Forbidden by Congress?
Date: 6 Nov 92 06:36:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.ESCHWART.92Nov5223644
Distribution: comp
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Service

First of all, what is the meaning of the "Forbidden by Act of Congress"
message I seem to get only when I begin commands with ".", and is this 
something that's built into the source code or held in a file I haven't yet
found?

Eric
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: MODERATING THEM ALL
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 18:06:43 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:

> Then what about real-moderated newsgroups ? International newsgroups that 
> are moderated ? If one site decides not to mark it as moderated, messages
> can get posted anyway... There would be no use in moderating it, because
> it's moderation is avoidable....

Avoidable by forgery, but then, most anything on Usenet can be forged.
An unauthorized post to a moderated group goes as far as the next
properly configured site, and either drops on the floor or is mailed to
the proper moderator.  It's not always pretty (like if an article makes
it through a medium-size cluster of B news sitesn and generates 100 mail
messages), but it works fairly well.

> Yes, but if other nodes under us make a mistake (or by purpose do something
> terrible, WE get cut off, because WE are responsible...). I just want to make
> sure that no pollution gets out...

Your feed site sounds quite restrictive.  Are you providing a large
number of connections to inexperienced admins?  I'm not clear on how the
problem grew to feed-threatening proportions.

Pollution control is a laudable aim.  But watching the first few
messages from a new site will clear up any small adjustments.  If you
truly need ironclad control over passed traffic, you're pretty much left
with 'cd /spool ^ global /q list *.dat' or its closest command.com
equivalent, as the first command in the batch file which polls your
upstream connection.
--
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From: spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 19:20:27 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

> I've done some testing...here's what's happening...
> alias1    | post newsgroup
> 
> aliases:
> alias1    | post newsgroup
> 
> usenet:
> newsgroup       /mod="alias1"
> 
> and posting to that group, answer Y to mail to moderator, works.  If the grou
> is a mailing list, then simply put the following in usenet:
> newsgroup       /mod="mailing-list-address"

Ok. Actually, I am not running my own mailing list yet, but... to
alleviate volume on the person who IS running the mailing list I gate, I
sometimes send large things to every member of the list (small anyway)
directly myself, so I cant have

usenet:
newsgroup        /mod="alias1"

Since POSTING to the newsgroup will send it off (and swamp) the real
mailing list, and it wont go out via my setup.

(However, I suppose I could set it up so EVERYTHING sent locally to the
newsgroup goes via my own "auto-mailer" - PROVIDED this is the solution
to get local mailings INTO that newsgroup.)

I'll try both momentarily.

> if, for some reason the mailing list does not send back your own messages,
> then try: [Note this has not been tested by me, yet]
> 
> usenet:   
> newsgroup       /mod="alias1"
> 
> aliases:
> alias1          post-alias submit-alias
> submit-alias    mailing-list-address
> post-alias      | post newsgroup

Will this be ok when using        alias1     + aliasfile ?

> In theory this should work.  Now, to put messages  in the newsgroup,

Whats this theory that you've got, Ms Elk? Seems you know the secret.
Tell, or elsif.

> POST to that newsgroup instead of mailing to the alias.  It works much
> better for me at least.

Then things will be sent out via the real address (and possibly swamp).

Actually, I'm worried about more stacking more things on top - I usually
swamp the list when forwarding large interesting things found in other
places on the usenet - so forwarding has to work for my "automailing"
list of aliases. (so that I get a copy and send out a copy for each
member on my system without swamping the real address)

/kc


Ken Chasse - Sonic Interzone, Toronto Ont. * Inet: sizone!spooge@ee.ryerson.ca
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From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FIDO gateway!!!
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 20:52:48 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas) writes:

> A local FIDO hub is seeking to add the alt. and some of the comp.
> newsgroups to his feed he has waffle and I have waffle, the question is
> how can he call and get his feed without me having to call him I have RTFM
> and am confused about whether this can be done or not!!  Anyone who might
> know how to do this I would really appreciate the setup!!

Set up Waffle on both ends...then all he has to do is call your system,
you dont have to set things up to call his....

To be more brief, you have to set him up to allow your system to accept
his calls.  He has to set his system to call your system and log in.

Greg


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From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Fastopen ...
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:38:37 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text

david@csource.oz.au (david nugent) writes:

[re: Discussions about FASTOPEN]

> It also caches directories and retains in memory a record of where
> the first cluster sizes of all directories down to any given access
> path are located, so it doesn't have to phsically read the disk as
> many times during a simple open call.
> 
> The side-effect is that access to directory functions is sped up on
> non-cached systems.
> 
> The point here, is that you should try it before posting; 

The point here, is that I *did* try it before posting.  No "perceived"
benefits.  This is why I suggested running a cache instead.

> Pat was trying to be helpful to others, ...

Yes, I fully appreciate it, as well.

> ... and it didn't warrant this type of response. 

Even though I basically said the same types of things as you did.  Wow.

> Even if it didn't work for you, that doesn't mean that what he stated 
> isn't correct for his setup (see below). Persumably, you're just having 
> a bad day.

Ah, no, actually I was questioning it, not criticizing it.  There is a
difference.  People learn by questioning, or did you sit there throughout
your entire academic "career" like a bump on a log?  

I also pointed out something to the effect of "...I could be wrong, in
which case please don't hesitate to correct me...I am always looking for
ways to increase performance on my own site..." (or something like that).

And no, I wasn't having a bad day.  Thanks for your concern, however.

> FASTOPEN is a nice idea, but even at DOS 5.0 the program is buggy. 
> [...]  I decided long ago that it is a Bad Thing, and generally
> recommend against using it. Anyone relying on 'make' type utilities
> and have tried it, will no doubt know about (or SHOULD know about!)
> its problems.

So we both have different reasons for not using it.  But your reasons
are okay, but my reasons are completely invalid, eh?  Sounds logical.
You should come to the United States and ran for President!  :-)

> Besides, FASTOPEN offers absolutely no performance benefits over using
> any good extended memory cache anyway (eg. hyperdisk or ncache).

Gee.  This is basically what I said in my posting.  But it's okay for
you to say it, eh?

Maybe you should read people's postings two to three times before flaming 
someone in this manner.

And how was your day?

----------------------------------------------------
Steve Frampton  <frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca>
Vicuna Systems BBS - 613/547-5066 [9600 v.32/.42bis]
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: FIDO gateway!!!
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:00:38 GMT

In article <6mXPTB1w165w@jimmc.chi.il.us> jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas) writes:
|how can he call and get his feed without me having to call him

This is pretty much covered in network.doc, under the heading
RUNNING UUCICO IN SLAVE ROLE - ANSWERING, but there are a couple of things
which might not be clear.

network.doc suggests using #exit 40 as the uucp user's shell.  That implies
that you have not modified the RUN.BAT to do something else at errorlevel 40.
At any case, you should modify RUN.BAT to look something like:

IF ERRORLEVEL == 40 GOTO UU
...
:UU
CALL UUSHELL
GOTO TOP

and UUSHELL.BAT should have at least "uucico -r0" and "uuxqt" in it.

If your modem is not locked, you may have some problem with uucico and
baud rates.  In that case, there's a little hint in DOS.DOC .

  Bill
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: aliasing a.b.w->c.b.w considered harmful
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:42:37 GMT

In article <ZuksTB2w165w@tcscs.UUCP> srcsip!tcscs!zeta writes:
|stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
|>    foreach i (newly-arrived-posting-to-group-x)
|> 
|>       get From address from i;
|>       send mail to that address;
|> 
|>    end;
|
|Is anyone thinking of writing this?   I'm thinking about it, but if someone
|has already started working on this, I'll work on other things.. :)

I wrote a trivial one, and think I lost the source, but still have the
executable somewhere.  I'll look.

  Bill
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 12:51:32 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:

->  <<contents of aliases, feeds & poll.bat deleted>>
->
-> What is everyone's problem, huh???    

Gheez,

Many weeks of going round with "It doesn't work," "It works here," 
"But that's not the setup we're talking about," etc, etc.

Thank you Donal, for posting a reasonable fix and breaking the cycle.
 
  John



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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 17:56:37 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder) writes:

> But if you just post to the gatewayed newsgroup, 
> it isn't going to go anywhere.   
> 
> You should have !list.* in your feeds file and /mod in the usenet
> file.

And I do... sorry I left that out of my original post.

> -> It only occurs when sending _mail_ to the alias name.  
> -> Posting to that group will work just fine.
> 
> And around to the beginning we come again.  <sigh>

True enough.  I simply wanted to get a description of both sides of the
situation in a single article, to try and cut confusion.  (right lousy
job, too, from the look of it ;)
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: gerald@gerald (Gerald Oskoboiny)
Subject: Re: rot(13) posting
Originator: gerald@gerald
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:03:15 GMT
Reply-To: gerald@gerald
Organization: November is seafood month
Followup-To: talk.bizarre,misc.test,comp.bbs.waffle

xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker) writes:

>Is this the only way to post in rot(13)?
>
>heres what I do:
>
>1) post normally.
>2) read my post
>3) rot(13) it with x.
>4) write it to a file
>5) substitute that file in the appropriate directory
>6) batch.

Yes, that is the only way I know of.

>The 14 year old net.comm.genius. | Disclaimer: I don't know COBOL.

Is this true? You're not really 14, are you? How did you get net access?

Gerald
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: News/mail reader
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:14:15 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

nguyen@spectrx.saigon.com (nguyen duong) writes:

-> My reader (Waffle internal reader) does not let me read the
-> top 2 lines. It also skip top 2 lines for the next page. Is there a way to 
-> configure the screen display to show 2 line less so it only
-> display 20 or 22 lines per page.

RTFM, keyword ADMIN.

-> What is the Chrome? 

Fully featured mail and news reader.  For use at the local console only.

-> Where to get it?

Its not out yet.



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From: spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: postings to unavail groups, bug unsub'ing with RN
Keywords: BUG fix please fast next-release annoying thanks later
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:12:11 GMT
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

> > Try following up to a post with:
> > 
> > Newsgroups: newsgroup.I.dont.carry,newsgroup.I.carry.where.I.am.reading.thi
> > 
> > And the system will report that newsgroup.I.dont.carry doesn't exist and
> > returns you to the prompt.
> 
> What waffle version are you running?  On my system when that happens, the
> system reports the newsgroup.I.dont.carry ? and then let's me go on to the
> editor.  I'm using 1.65. 

Moi aussi.

Actually, I think it was something like this... I asked for my host to
send me group.a, and group.a was NOT setup in my usenet file. But a post
in group.a was crossposted to group.b, which WAS setup, but I wasnt
requesting it. So it got crossposted with

Newsgroups: group.a,group.b

in the header. If the first newsgroup listed is NOT in the system/usenet
file, then I think it chokes in the way I descibed.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually, regarding newsgroups again, I found another "bug", if it is a
bug. (I am not sure, asking)

If you use RN to read news, and then want to UNSUB from a group, and you
hit U when it asks "50 new messages in news.group, read now?", then it
says UNSUBSCRIBE FROM GROUP News.Group? and you hit Y, then it asks
again "50 new messages in news.group, read now?". You can do it forever,
until you run RN again and it wont ask the 2nd time around.

/kc


Ken Chasse - Sonic Interzone, Toronto Ont. * Inet: sizone!spooge@ee.ryerson.ca
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of American pop culture, and we live in a sad society that tolrates it."
                                                      - NIMROD
From: tom@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Tom Salzmann)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle with Windoze 3.1
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 09:21:39 EST
Organization: SalzoBoard BBS

If there's anyone running waffle under 3.1 of Windows, please send me some
mail and let me know how you get it to do high speed transfers without
error.  I CANNOT get it to work no matter what I try.  I've tried with the
fossil loaded inside the dos window, before windows, no fossil, disabling
the com port support of windows with fossil loaded before windows, etc,
etc.  I'm using X00 as the fossil.

Everything works FINE under OS/2.  No problems at all.  I can't get it to
transfer reliably at high speeds under Windows.  HELP!

Thanks,

--
Tom Salzmann <tom@salzo.Cary.NC.US>
From: freiss@neurotic.sni.de (Martin Freiss)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: pcelm bug
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:12:45 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG, Paderborn, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: neurotic.sto.pdb.sni.de

In <1992Nov2.063218.8782@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> hmoffatt@nyx.cs.du.edu (Hamish Moffatt) writes:

>Mine seems to be inserting a space after my box name. eg
>cloud.apana.org.au !hm. Some software thinks my email
>address is cloud.apana.org.au@cloud.apana.org.au now.
>This happens on both my machines (1 * Waffle 1.65, 1 * UUPC 1.11).

To quote from an earlier post:

| From: spel@hippo.ru.ac.za (Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse)
| Subject: pc-elm and uuPC
| Summary: fix for rmail
| Keywords: elm pc-elm uupc
|
| If used with uuPC/extended one passes the message composed
| with pc-elm to  RMAIL.EXE via the token uucpcall in the file
| PCELM.RC.
|
| There is a bug in pc-elm 3.01 and 3.1b which adds on a blank
| to the host name which messes up RMAIL's header. RMAIL will
| send properly and the message will arrive most likely but
| there are some sendmails that whine.
|
| Until they fix the source one can change in PCELM.RC the line
|
| uucpcall "rmail -f $ %"
|
| into
|
| uucpcall "rmail -f $ -t"
|
| This causes rmail to read the adressee (which was expanded
| from the % macro in the original line) from the headers of
| the actual message, like sendmail does.

Waffle most probably has a similiar flag. While this will be "fixed" in 3.1,
what should be fixed should be the mail transfer agent at the sites that
complain. It does not make sense to fiddle with the From(blank) line
when a From: line is present in the mail. If your version of PCElm does
not produce a From: line, you have a cracked version.

-Martin

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Note: I'm away on a conference from Nov. 9 to Nov. 15, so expect some delay
in getting an answer to mails.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: walsh@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.p.walsh)
Subject: "SOMEWHERE" In Headers
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:03:22 GMT
Keywords: rmail waffle mail list

In setting up a mailing list ( using the + pointer to a file),
everything seems to work OK, except the recipient of the mail
has the word "somewhere" in the first line of the mail message
as part of the From line. Instead of seeing 

        From a!b!pilgrim!walsh    the recipient sees
        From a!b!somewhere!walsh

I am running rmail from the DOS command line with the standard
rmail -f mumble -s mumble maillistname < filename

where the maillistname is aliased to the mailing list file. The
messages get sent, but the recipient can't automatically
reply because of the "somewhere" in the From path.

Waf 1.65.

-Any hints as to where to look? Main from within waffle goes out OK.

- Thanks in advance, John Walsh
    walsh@pilgrim.carlisle.ma.us
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 12:06:35 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

-> eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder) writes:
-> 
-> > Since it does work on your system, would you mind posting the
-> > appropriate sections of your  ~\system\usenet and ~\system\aliases
-> > and any other files you have changed for mail-to-newsgroups to work.
-> 
-> OK.  Here goes.
->
-> ----------------------------------USENET:---------------------------------
-> 
-> tcs.bbs.builders                        /keep=50 
->                                         /mod="bbs@dragon.b23b.ingr.com"
->  <others of similar form deleted>
-> 
-> ----------------------------------ALIASES:-----------------------------------
-> 
-> bbs                             tcs4
-> tcs4                            | post tcs.bbs.builders
->
->  <others before and after deleted>

Thank you, this works.

But it is not what we are trying to accomplish.

We are having problems with setting the /mod flag to point to an
alias, which points to two others, one is the central address, the
other is the posting alias.

Once more:

usenet
list.whatever   /mod=whatever1

aliases
whatever     | post list.whatever
whatever1    whatever2 whatever3
whatever2    whatever@central
whatever3    whatever

This construct creates the immediate message of headers w/ a blank body 
in the local group, but sends the message w/ body ok to the central 
address.

<and back to the beginning we come again>
  John


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