HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jui@hpopr4.cern.ch (Charles C. H. Jui)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Bad Day at Black Rock...well...almost
Summary: Thoroughly bad month too
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:16:06 GMT
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics

Disastrous break-up with my ex--with much vacillation from both misguided
parties ending in nothing but pure hell

A $1200 full fare ticket to come back to Geneva because AA canceled
my ticket after I failed to check in on one of ny flights during my
Xmas vacation...

and now my car dies...towing fee on the French side bordeing Geneva runs
$140...I wonder how much I will be paying for the repair?....probably
10 times the amount for towing?

of course the tax man's month is just around the corner....

I am WAY behind schedule to produce promised results needed by early March

Citibank wants money...pronto...

oh heck...I still have my health and a job...though I wonder how long I
will hold on to either the way things are going...

Charles
From: B7TR@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (B7TR000)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: hair (was Re: qualities in men)
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:45:37 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <zlsiida.755@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>In article <Vy9BXB5w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe) writes:
>>RE: female bodily hair
>
>The only place I prefer not to see hair on a female is the upper lip.
>Armpit hair CAN be very sexy.
>I knew a french girl once who had a 1 hair wide mane all down her spine,
>absolutely irresistable.
>
>        Never believe an experiment until it is confirmed by theory
>    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033
>.
>.

No wonder, he's British! Europeans are swarthy and smell like SHIT!
As if the poor Brit slob has  a choice.  If all you saw all day long
was a bunch of nasty hairy wenches, you'd probably find dirt and funk
attractive too.  But that doesn't make it some sort of universal
aesthetic.  Fuckin' EuroMutts!


I'm not smelly and proud of it!
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: thought for the picosecond
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:54:20 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
NNTP-Posting-Host: chipotle.gac.edu

In article <1993Jan21.121022.21010@acme.gen.nz>  writes:
>Mankind's ability to hope lies at the heart of our sentience. The antelope
>looks at what is, while humanity ponders what might be. It is the
>fundamental irony that much of human suffering is caused by the sharpened
>blade of reality cutting away this web of possibility.

If reality cuts away from these possibilities, they aren't really possible,
are they? 

>
>						- k
>						(well, at least it's shorter)
From: toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (prufrock)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: logic confounding people unclear on the concept/about
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:38:14 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <dsmither.727647177@cunews> dsmither@alfred.carleton.ca (Diane Smithers) writes:
>
>  						Do the hard sciences remove
>abilities to think other than linearly too? I imagine so, but I would
>like to hear people's thoughts on that - not you, Hermes ;<  - this is
>serious stuff.

Yes.

>Diane S.
>Soc/Anth Dept.
>Carleton University
>Ottawa, Canada

--prufrock
physics dept.
university of virginia
charlottesville, va
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: tick.. tick.. tick..
Date: 26 Jan 1993 23:50:23 GMT
Organization: Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN
Distribution: world
Reply-To: steve@estel.uindy.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.146.191.197



We just sat down. We signed. It's over. 

tick.. tick.. tick..

I guess I'm still alive.

tick.. tick.. tick..

What am I supposed to do now?

tick.. tick.. tick..

Would someone shut off that damned clock!

-steve
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: logic confounding people unclear on the concept
Organization: OFSA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:37:08 GMT

paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes) replies sweetly:

>In article <dsmither.727569348@cunews> dsmither@alfred.carleton.ca
(Diane Smithers) writes angrily:
>>
>>Just out of irritated curiosity, why are you bothering to pretend that
>>you have (wide-eyed like alice in wonderland) 'just happened along
>>into a big confusing Angst Group that you don't really, um,
>>understand?'.  
>
>honest, I've never read this group before.  But my eyes aren't wide.  I just 
>have plain old normal eyes.

Good answer...one point for Hermes.

>'I don't have any angst; where do I get some?'  
>
>I didn't say that, naughty.  :)

Another good answer, add another point but leave off the smiley next
time.

>That
>>"oppression *thing"? "Patriarchy and *stuff*"? "Being oppressed and
>>*junk*"?  
>
>These are all examples of my dialect.  I don't think they prove anything.

It proves your dialect and stuff.

>> Give it a rest.
>
>I guess I could stop posting if that's what everybody wants. :(  But I 
>really would want one question answered:  man or woman?  which should I be?

Basically, the answer is inside you. What do ya wanna be? You want us
to make your decision for you and then have you hate us forever?!
Lawdy, lawdy that will never do. Flip a coin, either side will
suffice.

>>Diane S.
>>
>>- pardon the strong reply, but how annoying. 

It is your right, Diane, to allow yourself to be annoyed.

>No, it's cool.  If you feel strongly about something, it's totally all 
>right to reply strongly.  That's my opinion, IMHO.  :)
>
>-Hermes

Hmm, a point off there. Perhaps, "shit happens constantly" would have
served you better, Hermes.
From: lydia@tarsal.dsg.ti.com (lydia middendorf )
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: hampsterball reality
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:03:59 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments, Austin, Tx.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: middendorf@tsd.itg.ti.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: tarsal.dsg.ti.com

from: lydia@tarsal.dsg.ti.com (lydia middendorf )
Reply-To: middendorf@tsd.itg.ti.com
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: hampsterball reality
Expires:
References:
Sender:
Followup-To:
Distribution: usa
Organization: Texas Instruments, Austin, Tx.
Keywords:



I'm not sure if the person that wrote about "hampster ball reality"
wants advice or not. But here is my advice.

If you really want a new outlook on life, know that your life has
meaning and purpose, Volunteer.

I am a wildlife rehabilitator. This requires a great deal of time
and commitment. Other volunteer efforts can require as little as
two hours a month, or even just once a year.

you could-

teach someone to read
make tape recordings for the blind (read books on tape)
volunteer on a crisis hotline
help out Blue Santa
volunteer at a food bank
write letters to congress people for causes you believe in
volunteer at parks, with groups that repair trails ect.
help local organizations plant trees on arbor day
volunteer at a recycle center

The point is, there are thousands of groups out there that need you.
Some of these groups only require a couple hours a month. But you
do need to be dependable. If you have any hobbies you like, or
talents, there is a volunteer group out there that can use you.

It can really make a diffrence in your life.








--
Recycle yourself...be an organ donor  |  visualize whirrled peas....
 :-o		     Internet: lydia@tarsal.dsg.ti.com
From: dsmither@superior.carleton.ca (Diane Smithers)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Ancient Greece (was re: feminism (and was re: something or other else)
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:43:41 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <1993Jan27.172148.5161@samba.oit.unc.edu> James.Rogers@launchpad.unc.edu (James Edward Rogers) writes:

>In article <zlsiida.857@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>>
>>>Read Lysistrata( not quite sure of the spelling).
>>
>>>It shows how women can control men.... It was written in xxx B.C.
>>
>>Lemme guess, which sex was the author?
>>
>The author, in case anyone doesn't know, was Aristophanes, a male, naturally,
>because women of ancient Athens didn't have citizenship.  Interestingly 
>hypocritical, (like some people think of Bill Clinton  #:) )  That was not
>really a smiley.  Anyway, the plot is this: correct me if I'm wrong, people.
>Athens and Sparta are at war.  The women are sick of it.  So they refuse
>to have sex with their husbands until they make peace.  Eventually the men
>are so horny they make peace.
>This is called PROGRESS?

Hmmm ... as I understood it, the military sector in ancient Greece was
a place where the social reproduction of male culture occurred, and
where there was structured homosexuality.  Why would the men be so horny?


Diane
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: kovarik@martha.utcc.utk.edu (MerryMinionOfDeath)
Subject: Re: hamster-ball reality
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:27:55 GMT

In article <86639@ut-emx.uucp> llama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>
>the ball i bought my hamster had a little door in the top you used to
>put the hamster in and take him out. sometimes i think that i do
>things like drop acid as a way to look for that door, to figure out
>its mechanism. if i ever found it, though, would i be brave enough to
>go out? and what would i do out there, run off into the front yard and
>play in the leaves? or just creep around the edges and steal crackers?
>

If we all live in one hamster ball or another, and *I* think that
there really is no escape from this, then we might as well pick a 
hamster ball that we like..... Maybe I am kinda juvenile in my thinking,
but the "Key West" hamster ball as described in the new Fox TV series
is a much more appealing hamster ball than, for example, Oak Ridge, 
Tennessee, or Kansas.  Of course, to live in an ideal hamster ball, one
might have to sacrifice material things for spiritual things.  One might
have to start eating tofu, and alfalfa sprouts, and channelling the soul
of a long-dead Egyptian barge pilot through one's body.

Is there any call for a hypercube programmer down in Key West? :-)

						Meech
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: logic confounding people unclear on the concept
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 12:42:52 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

> For the record, the strong reply was for anyone else that was reading.
> I was meaning that *you* were annoying.  Do you need a brick to fall
> on your head?  There are many other groups that would suit your
> purposes (whatever they are) better - but you are not dealing with a
> homogenous body of people, an 'audience' that can answer your
> questions about what this thing, 'angst' is that you so cheerfully try
> to avoid.  And this is not an Angst Research Station, so quit posing
> theatrical questions about your gender. Again, my advice would be to
> find somewhere else to post - it is hard enough to negotiate meaning
> through this technological medium without deliberately shit-disturbing 
> people like yourself. 

 Y'know, there ARE decaffinated brands which taste every bit as good as 
the real thing.

 I agree with your about her/his annoying messages, and also have some 
doubts as to the true identity of this person, but c'mon...aren't you 
REALLY upset because someone like this upsets your personal apple cart in
a very unpleasant way? I mean, the most valuable currency in alt.angst is 
honesty. People come here to cry on someone's shoulder, and many of the 
rest of us (myself included) take these stories at face value and feel 
for them?

 Well...the nagging doubt whenever I read anything here is "What if 
he/she's a liar, and is playing me for a fool?". Terribly irritating if 
one's been feeling sorry for a practical joker now, isn't it?

 That's where your...ah...victim comes in. If ONE person can try to play 
us, all certainties go out the window, and alt.angst becomes a colder 
place. Thing is, to blame all of this complex reaction on one annoying 
user really isn't fair, since you're attributing structural faults of 
this newsgroup to a buffoon who inadvertently exploits them.

 Just ignore her/him. If you keep going the way you have been, the flames 
will continue, and may just burn us all up along with the two of you.


> Diane S.

marlowe

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   And there I dream'd -- Ah! woe betide!
The latest dream I ever dream'd
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From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: glad for once to be in the wrong
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:30:32 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter) writes:

> First of all, thanks for the support when I posted what I did about finding
> out some potentially awful things about my SO.
> 
> Second, I just want to say that I was totally wrong about all of it. I don't
> want to go into too much detail, because I don't want to admit publicly the
> extent to which I overreacted. Let's just say that I should have expected 
> something like this from a former angry-young-man who majored in hacks at 
> MIT. 
> 
> Believe me, if he hadn't been able to give me a plausible explanation, I
> would have been out the door so fast I'd have left little *whoosh* lines
> like you see in cartoons. I don't need another version of my father in my
> life.
> 
> Anyway, it's okay now. Angst levels back to normal (which, granted, is
> relative, but this is alt.angst).


 Hey...a happy ending. Hot diggedy. See, roses grow everywhere...even 
alt.angst.

marlowe

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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: machala@spdc.ti.com (King Mosher)
Subject: Re: hermes, please pick up the white clue phone...
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:37:32 GMT

llama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
[and "stuff" deleted]

gads, not you too, deb! I can't escape this paleblue/hermes person.
she's in every thread. enough already. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

--

     Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

Chuck Machala-Semiconductor Process and Design Center-Texas Instruments/Dallas
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Re: How depressing!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:56:21 GMT

In article <ioeyXB5w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe) writes:
>> >I'm glad that your life is proceeding more smoothly than those on
>> >alt.angst who are using the board to express their ANGST
>> >S Zikopoulos
>> >
>> 
>> I get the feeling that alt.angst is a sort of frat or something.  If you don'
>> properly express your angst--even in your first posting--or if you express it
>> but have inappropriate angst, then you just don't belong, so fuck off.  quite
>> the little social club you guys got going here...i'm proud o' y'all...i just
>> wish i fet more accepted...sniff...i need this kind of positive, wholesome
>> interaction in my life...sniff...but my angst just isn't cool enough...sniff.
>
> True enough. It's a fine line, though -- between those who would try to 
>be assholes and those who just want to point out that there's more to 
>life than dreaming about slitting your own wrists. 
> In this case, you're right, though.
>
>
>> WAKE UP--everyone fucking has angst...its what life is about...and the ones
>> who manage to put it behind them are the ones who succeed...and the ones who
>> wallow in it...well. discussing is one thing, but some of you make an identit
>> of it..and are even proud of it!  some of you like being angstful...and get
>> defensive if the SACRED ANGST is not view properly.  
>> 
>> whatever.
>
> Right again. As a self-help group or just a place to vomit up problems, 
>alt.angst is fine...problem is, without anyone to question it all, 
>everyone just listelessly masturbate each other. Ahhh, well...it DOES 
>serve a purpose, even at its worst.
> A question, though; with all of the newsgroups available, why would a 
>strong, happy individual such as yourself select alt.angst?
>


slight misunderstanding! i said that people who learn to put the angst behind
them are the ones who succeed, but i never pretend this is me!!  i mean knowing
all this shit about how to get on with my life is alot different then actually
changing my life.  the emotions don't get changed by knowledge...they are
still there gnawing at me!  i am an emotional wreck for much of my waking
(and sleeping for that matter) hours!  i don't know how you got the impression
of me thinking of myself as strong or happy.  but i'm a trying!

maybe it was the pooh quote...

rich.


-- 
"For I am a Bear of Very Little Brain,
     and big words Bother me."
	-Winnie-the-Pooh
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: horntho@eng.auburn.edu (Thomas J. Horn)
Subject: Re: logic confounding people unclear on the
Reply-To: horntho@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:35:48 GMT

In article 1jncvbINNrl9@shelley.u.washington.edu, paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes) writes:

> Why is it a joke?  Because it's funny?  I really don't mind if I amuse people.
> It might make them a little happier. [ANNOYING FUCKING SMILEY DELETED]
> As far as guyness and that stuff, I'm still young.  I don't have to decide
> that kind of stuff for sure.  It's a free country.
> 

If we wanted to be amused, we'd go over to 'alt.humor.funny' or some other such
blindingly inane newsgroup as that.  This group is for the venting of frustrations
and such, and I don't want to feel like I'm wading knee-deep through flowers to
access this group (as I feel whenever I'm reading your babble).


> I don't know that becoming an eggplant is an option for me.  I might not be
> up to that.

Then how about either finding some angst or going away?


> Maybe I could be a wolf, friend.  [ANNOYING FUCKING SMILEY DELETED]
> 
> -Hermes
> 
> -- 
> TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT  Theresa "Hermes" Bock
> TTTTTTT_____    _____TTTTTTT
> TTTTTTTTTTTT    TTTTTTTTTTTT  paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu  
> TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT


---TJH

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Re: Me and Winne the Pooh in Reno
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 20:28:40 GMT

In article <21723@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.061712.17942@leland.Stanford.EDU> tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) cheers up the group's best writer and then fatally
>signs off with a quote by:
>>	-Winnie-the-Pooh
>
>Well I just got back from Reno. Me and Pooh were running nonstop between the
>all-night seven-card stud game at Fitzgerald's and Sparks, home of the   
>infamous exploitation-club,, the Mustang Ranch. Not that we cared. We were
>living high, me and Pooh, spending our money as fast as we made it. We must
>have made the run fifteen times, in a Lexus rental car we picked up in Salt
>Lake City, where I met Pooh at the airport. The first words out of his mouth
>were to the effect that the world was going to hell and all was shit and that
>goddamn Tarzan/boy had ruined everything.
>	Pooh made enough money selling junk bonds to Tigger to get out, and
>he was looking for the high life.
>	It was his money we used on the first seven trips to the Ranch. Then
>the stud game got serious and we started bankrolling our retirements.
>
>So don't think quoting Pooh will get you anywhere, not here and not in
>alt.cute.
>
>Dan

What you don't understand is that if more people were like pooh, this world
would be alot better place.  Pooh doesn't think he's better than any one else,
he does what he wants to (eat lots of honey) and lets others do what they 
want to without passing judgement on them.  Its nothing to do with cuteness...
its an intellectual thing.

rich.

-- 
"For I am a Bear of Very Little Brain,
     and big words Bother me."
	-Winnie-the-Pooh
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: feminism (was re:something or other else)
Summary: Re: feminism... men controlling everything
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:40:18 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1k3fopINNajt@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby) writes:

>Read Lysistrata( not quite sure of the spelling).

>It shows how women can control men.... It was written in xxx B.C.

Lemme guess, which sex was the author?

    Actually, Occam wore a beard: philosophers kept borrowing his razor
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033  
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: smorine@nyx.cs.du.edu (Suzanne Morine)
Subject: Re: thought for the picosecond
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 06:03:10 GMT

kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:

>Mankind's ability to hope lies at the heart of our sentience. The antelope
>looks at what is, while humanity ponders what might be. It is the
>fundamental irony that much of human suffering is caused by the sharpened
>blade of reality cutting away this web of possibility.

Another spin:

Mankind can imagine (and dream) of what cannot be, but is otherwise stuck in
reality mud.  We can sometimes discern which dreams are possible and which
ones are not.

--
--Suzanne Morine          smorine@nyx.cs.du.edu
--"It is wonderful how much time good people spend fighting the devil.  If
--they would only expend the same amount of energy loving their fellow men,
--the devil would die in his own tracks of ennui."     Helen Keller
From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: hermes, please pick up the white clue phone...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:42:32 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu
Summary: Re: Hermes, clueless going on and on and on

In article <1993Jan22.164440.2640@bnr.ca>, bucknerb@bnr.ca (Brent Buckner) writes:
> In article <1993Jan22.055528.4845@ncsu.edu> jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu writes:
> >:)  (token smiley -- what the hell, I only live once)
>                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I don't know which is preferable; that statement being
> true, or it being false.
> 
Good point,
Personally, I think she has too much time on her hands, Jesus, 
how long has this one topic been going on? I think am getting
... could it be .. a bit of angst????  Yes! it is!... wow!
guess I'll post.....

Coz

	(The opinions of this jerk do not necessarily represent
	Baylor College of Medicine or Texas Children's Hospital)


Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Strange Days Indeed.....
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:59:05 GMT

In article <XIBO.93Jan20005322@ziggy.fido.econ.arizona.edu> xibo@fido.econ.arizona.edu (Mr. Coates) writes:
>
>Wow.  I've never really thought about it this way, but y'know, it
>really does seem to work out that way.  Either it's obvious very
>early on that there's going to be boinking action / intamacy, or
>it ends up in a months-long quest with little reward and ultimately
>ends in failure.

But of course, every relationship I was in prior to discovering that
rule fit it, and none of the relationships I've been in since I discovered
it have fit.

There's probably another rule in that, but I don't want to find it.


--
            Eric Murray                 ericm@microunity.com
In this game, the winner is also the loser, and the judge's decisions are final
Newsgroups: alt.angst