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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 13:38:04 +0800
From:         Chan Fook Weng <cfwrefdv@SOLOMON.TECHNET.SG>
Subject:      Libraries with Southeast Asia Collections

The National Library of Singapore is participating in a national project
to review the library and information services in Singapore.

One of the areas under study is the availability of collections on
Southeast Asia materials within and outside Southeast Asia. As much of the
details of these collections and services have not been documented in
published sources, we are writing this to seek your assistance in
providing us with the information.

We are interested in the following:

1. Collection size  - number of titles/vol.; periodicals;audio-visual;
                      others.

2. Scope - highlight strengths, whether retrospective, contemporary,
           comprehensive, etc.

3. Languages of publication.

4. Clientele.

5. Interlibrary loan/Document sypply.

6. Computerised on-line catalogue - if accessible overseas.
   Would appreciate telnet address of libraries if available. I have been
   collecting a number of these. Can contact me but can't promise I have it.

7. Printed bibliographies.

Would appreciate early replies. Thanks.


--Marjorie Raj
  National Library of Singapore
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Subject: TH: Cabinet officers
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:44:35 GMT
Organization: Central Michigan University
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=======================  Forwarded  Message  ===========================
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 16:18:52+0700
From: Yongyuth Pahirah <yongyuth@ipied.tu.ac.th>

Prime Minister:
Chuan Leekpai, Democrat


Deputy Prime Ministers:
Banyat Bantadthan, Democrat

Amnuay Viravan, non-MP (New Aspiration quota)

Boonchu Rojanastien, Palang Dharma

Supachai Panitchpakdi, non-MP (Democrat quota)


(Prime minister's secretary general
 Tawat Wichaidit,      )


PM's Office Ministers:
Tirdpong Jayananda, Democrat
Savit Bhothiwihok, Democrat
Surasak Thiamprasert, New Aspiration
Chinnawut Sunthornsima, Palang Dharma


Defence Minister:
Gen Vijit Sookmark, non-partisan
Deputy:
Maj Gen Sombat Rodphothong , Palang Dharma


Finance Minister:
Tarrin Nimmanahaeminda, non-MP (Democrat quota)
Deputy:
Trairong Suwankhiri, Democrat
Boonchu Trithong, New Aspiration


Foreign Minister:
Prasong Sunsiri
Deputy:
Surin Pitsuwan, Democrat


Agriculture Minister:
Nipon Promphan, Democrat
Deputies:
Suthep Thaugsuban, Democrat
Sawat Suebsaiprom, New Aspiration
Thawil Chanprasong, Palang Dharma



Communications Minister:
Winai Sompong, Palang Dharma
Deputies:
Charas Puachuay, Palang Dharma
Sawai Pattano, Democrat
Thawee Kraikupti, New Aspiration
Somsak Thepsuthin, Social Action



Commerce Minister:
Uthai Pimchaichon, Solidarity
Deputies:
Chaiyos Sasomsup, Solidarity
Jurin Laksanavisit, Democrat
Paitoon Kaewthong, New Aspiration



Interior Minister:
Gen Chavalit Yongchaiyudh, New Aspiration
Deputies:
Den Tohmeena, New Aspiration
Suthas Ngernmuen, Democrat
Chamni Sakdiseth, Palang Dharma
Chaowas Sudlabha, Social Action



Justice Minister:
Suwit Khunkitti, Social Action

Science Minister:
Phisarn Moonlasartsathorn, New Aspiration
Deputy:
Preecha Musikul, Democrat


Education Minister:
Samphan Thongsamak, Democrat
Deputies:
Pramote Sukhum, Democrat
Sangthong Sritharet, New Aspiration
Adisorn Piengkate, Palang Dharma



Public Health Minister:
Boonphan Khaewattana, Social Action
Deputies:
Rakkiat Sukhathana, Social Action
Anek Tabsuwan, Democrat
Udomsilp Srisaengnam, Palang Dharma


Industry Minister:
Sanan Kachornprasart, Democrat
Deputies:
Pornthep Tejapaibul, Democrat
Kiatichai Chaichaorat, New Aspiration



University Affairs Minister:
Suthep Attakor, Palang Dharma
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:12:11 EDT
From:         Tony <ALIM@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: not more pow articles
              28 Sep 1992 15:21:18 -0500 from <becherer@SUNA0.CS.UIUC.EDU>

Dear Max,

    I tend to agree with you that any aid should be given to the Vietnamese peo
ple.  Would this mean that you are in favor of helping the Vietnamese people?
Then why don't the U.S. government allow the Vietnamese people in the refugees'
camps into the mainland.  If the U.S. government and citizens are interested in
 helping the Vietnamese, then how come only a few people bother to help them
 them get a chance to enter the U.S.?  All the Vietnamese in the refugees'
camps hope is to live a decent life and not to be wards of the U.S. government.
  In the first place, the Vietnamese did not started the Vietnam War.  Secondly
, the Vietnamese did not invade the U.S., but rather U.S. soldiers were send to
 Vietnam to kill the Vietnamese and some of our fellowmen did not return.  Most
 important, did the Vietnamese bomb the Midwest? Wreck environmental havoc on t
he Northwest forest? Bombed Brooklyn Bridge? Mined San Francisco Bay?
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:47:52 -0500
From:         Max Becherer <becherer@SUNA0.CS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      VN Insight Bashers

     To all you Insight Bashers out there...

     I have heared Vietnam Insight accused of reving, propagandizing, etc.
Some have suggested that Chan Tran and co. are fascists, or worse.  Some have
even gone so far as to want VN Insight censored off the Net (many of these
people probably also demand "tolerance" for their own views).  I'd like to know
what it is that these people find so objectionable about Vietnam Insight.
     Personally, I don't think its bad.  What Vietnam Insight, and all freedom
loving Vietnamese want is to free their homeland.  VN Insight often prints
articles about the dismal state of human rights in Vietnam, and while I realize
that some of the more hysterical elements of the fringe Left would like to see
such information censored, I don't think it is "self serving propaganda" or
"raving" to reveal what the Communists are doing to the Vietnamese people.
     As for the allegations that Vietnam Insight wants to restore the corrupt
old South Vietnamese government to power, they are patently untrue:
 fabricationson the part of people who don't like VN Insight's message, and who
 are groping
for some way to discredit that message.
     Please, I'd like some feedback from you Insight Bashers out there.  You've
been slamming Chan Tran for some time now, but have never explained WHY you
think VN Insight is the rag you portray it as.  Let's get a good debate going
here.



Refer comments, suggestions, flames to

                 Max Becherer    becherer@cs.uiuc.edu

       Nothing Evil lasts forever -- the Future belongs to the Free.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:39:40 EDT
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Bankers say parties wooing them

=======================  Forwarded  Message  ===========================
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 01:14:17+0700
From: kamol@munnari.oz.au (Kamol Hengkietisak)

THREE of the country's top bankers have confirmed they were approached
by parties in the coalition led by Democrat leader Chuan Leekpai to
join the government.

Bangkok Bank Executive Board Chairman Amnuay Virawan said the New
Aspiration Party had approached him to join the coalition but refused
to reveal anything more.

Dr Amnuay has been tipped as an NAP nominee for the post of deputy
prime minister under its Cabinet quota.

Dr Amnuay described as NAP's internal affairs reports that his
nomination had led to division in the party, but added that he was
willing to resign from the bank to work for the country.

Siam Commercial Bank President Tarrin Nimmanhaeminda, tipped as the
new Finance Minister under the Democrat Party quota, said being an
outsider did not unduly worry him "because the new finance policy will
have to be worked out based on the policies of each political party
trying to set up the the government."

Mr Tarrin said he foresaw no problems working with Thai Military Bank
Chairman Supachai Panitchpakdi -- another nominee as deputy prime
minister under the Democrat quota.

But Mr Tarrin and Mr Supachai are reported to harbour different views
on a number of financial and economic issues.

Mr Tarrin said he and Mr Supachai had the same basic economic and
financial background and he was confident that there will not be
problems if everyone works with reason.

He said he will pursue a policy to ensure an independent financial and
economic policy for the country.

Mr Tarrin said he has already informed the Siam Commercial Bank of his
decision to resign to join the Chuan government.

Mr Supachai, while confirming he was approached to become deputy prime
minister, said he had yet to receive approval from his bank's board of
directors to assume Cabinet responsibility.

He said he was bound by a TMB contract to serve them another two
years.

"I will have to find my replacement at the bank if I'm to join the
Chuan government," Mr Supachai said.

Asked for further comments the banker said it would be premature to
talk any further because he was still awaiting the bank's response and
the Democrat confirmation of his appointment.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:57:10 CDT
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From:         knight@ACS.HARDING.EDU

Hi.

Last January we purchased a VAXstation 4000 model 60.  As most of the rest of
you on this list, we have an unlimited user VMS license through CSLG for our
VAXcluster.  This is great and we appreciate it very much!

We were told by several DEC representatives that this unlimited license would
work on the VAXstation just as it does on the rest of the cluster - giving
us unlimited VMS users.  We found out a couple of months after buying
the machine  (when our local office was trying to sell us more hardware)
that we could NOT legitimately run unlimited users on this machine; CSLG
gives us only an 8 user license upgrade.

After the initial frustration, we are now content to run only 8 users on this
machine and are still grateful to DEC for the unlimited license on the rest
of our cluster.

Here is where our real problem is:  We can't find a decent way to limit the
Interactive users on this machine to 8.

Our yearly CSLG tape gave us a cluster-wide VAX-VMS license which is:
	Availability:   A
	Activity:  	0

As I understand from CSC, this is basically an unlimited license and can not
be modified in any way - even if I were to make a copy of the whole license
database for this machine, I couldn't modify the license to limit our
Interactive users.  Simply setting the Interactive users to 8 (SET LOGINS/
INTERACTIVE=8) won't work because most of the people using this have OPER
privilege.

We did receive an  AVAILABILITY:  D  license for 200 units (2 users) with
the machine but there is no way to upgrade this to 800 units without going
through the paperwork, convincing my local office I HAVE to do it this way,
etc., and getting a new PAK.

CSC's final suggestion was to put a KLUDGE in SYLOGIN.COM that would do the
necessary lexical functions to count the number of users already there each
time somebody logs in and just log them out if there are already 8.

We're not crazy about this solution, but if we have to we'll do it.  Has
anybody else encountered this problem?  If so, how did you handle it?  We
really want to follow the rules, but the "system" is not making it easy to do
so.

Thanks.

Adrian Knight
System Manager
Harding University
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From: jay@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
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Subject: VAXLISP-- available or not available?
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:48:06 -0400
Summary: VAXLISP Retirement question.
Reply-To: jay@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Keywords: VAXLISP
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

Hello All,

I installed the VAXLISP on our VAX about two years ago.  A couple of
months later I received notice that the VAXLISP software would be
retired in December 1991 and that one would then need to purchase a
LISP product from a third party vendor. 

We were quite happy with VAXLISP and would like to keep running that 
software.  Can VAXLISP still be run?   When one tries to start the 
thing running, a lack of license error message crops up.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Jay Whittle 
Georgetown University
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:30:47 -0400
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From:         "Andrew Potter, Assoc. Dir, ISC DCO&TS" <AWPSYS@RITVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Pathworks License and ESL Semi-annual report questions

A few questions for Ellen or other DECTEI people.

>1. I understand that the Pathworks license is not tied to any specific PC or
>MAC. Now, if I add Pathworks support to ESL (count all PCs and MACs using
>Pathworks in the CPU count), I will have to provide the serial numbers in the
>semi-annual report. My question is, is Pathworks license in this case
>"transferrable?" For example, if I count 50 PCs in a lab in the ESL CPU count,
>within the year, 5 PCs went completely dead and I have to replace them. What
>exactly do I have to do? I do not have to purchase new Pathworks licenses for
>them, correct? And I can just make the changes of the serial numbers in the
>semi-annual report, correct?

My impression is that we do not need to report serial numbers of PCs and Macs
in our CSLG reports.   This is because even under ESL where we get Right
to New Version on Pathworks (RTNV), we still purchased individual pathworks
licenses for the PCs and Macs at the market basket prices.  We expect to
only report total numbers of systems under support to show proper
support screening.

>What I really would like to see is something like
>
>
>ESL         O/S         SOFTWARE UTILIZATION CODES (see below)
>SYSTEM #
>1.          VMS         2,3,4,10,11,35,20
>2.          VMS         2,3,5,10,35,40,100

I would say make it any way you want.   The DEC supplied format of the
report is only a guideline.   What the contract you signed requires is
that you only supply the requested information and do the calculations
on expected "value" of that software.  How that information looks on
paper is not in the CSLG contract.

- Andy
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 09:56:05 PDT
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From:         "ELLEN MINTER * 297-2461 * EDUCATION MARKETING"
              <minter@MR4DEC.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      Layered Product Support 1

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:      EDT
                                        From:     Ellen Minter @MRO
                                                  MINTER.ELLEN
                                        Dept:     Education MBU
                                        Tel No:   297-2461

TO:  Remote Addressee                     ( _decwrl::"dectei-l%ubvm.bitnet" )


Subject: Layered Product Support


To clear up an issue regarding layered product support (LPS) and media and
documentation distribution service (MDDS), CSLG customers do not need to
purchase LPS unless they require phone support.  CSLG customers can purchase
MDDS without the prerequisite LPS and therefore self-maintain their software.
LPS is a prerequisite to MDDS for all non-CSLG customers.

There are no different prices for MDDS depending on system size or power
rating.   Fortran MDDS is the same price for everyone.  For non-Education
Software Library (ESL) customers, if a CSLG customer wishes to purchase LPS,
they must purchase it on the largest system.  Unlike commercial customers that
must power rate LPS for ALL the systems, education customers purchase LPS for
the largest system and the phone support is extended to all systems.

Hope that clears up the confusion.

Regards,
Ellen Minter
From: chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU (Ta Fuh Chiam)
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Subject: Pathworks License and ESL Semi-annual report questions
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:19:23 GMT
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A few questions for Ellen or other DECTEI people.

1. I understand that the Pathworks license is not tied to any specific PC or
MAC. Now, if I add Pathworks support to ESL (count all PCs and MACs using
Pathworks in the CPU count), I will have to provide the serial numbers in the
semi-annual report. My question is, is Pathworks license in this case
"transferrable?" For example, if I count 50 PCs in a lab in the ESL CPU count,
within the year, 5 PCs went completely dead and I have to replace them. What
exactly do I have to do? I do not have to purchase new Pathworks licenses for
them, correct? And I can just make the changes of the serial numbers in the
semi-annual report, correct?

2. What do I do if a PC does not have a serial number? Yes, we used to have some
that do not have serial number although we do not have those anymore but this
may come up. :-)

3. We just received our new CSLG renewal notice. There are not some PC products
as well as software that runs on Sun. I assume that we do NOT have to purchase
an initial license for these products, correct?

4. Since we now have all the products in CSLG in ESL, how exactly should the
"Software Utilization Inventory" table be done in the semi-annual report? The
current table looks like:

ESL         O/S         SOFTWARE UTILIZATION CODES (see below)
SYSTEM #
                                 11111111112222222222333333333344444444
                        12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567
1.          VMS         XXXXXXXX XX      X XX   X XX XX  X XX  X X
2.          VMS         XXXXXXXX XX      X XX   X XX XX  X XX  X X


With more than 300 products, we definitely cannot fit the table in
one-page-80-column like the above.

What I really would like to see is something like


ESL         O/S         SOFTWARE UTILIZATION CODES (see below)
SYSTEM #
1.          VMS         2,3,4,10,11,35,20
2.          VMS         2,3,5,10,35,40,100

where the numbers above indicate the actual software being used (eg. 2 for VMS,
3 for VAX BASIC etc..) This will really make life easier. :-)

Ta Fuh Chiam

============================================================================
Ta Fuh Chiam
Ohio University, College of Business Administration / Phone: (614)593-2088
Management Information Systems                        FAX:   (614)593-0319
Copeland Hall 22                   INTERNET : chiam@vulcan.cba.ohiou.edu
Athens, Ohio 45701, U.S.A.            or    : chiam@ouvaxa.ucls.ohiou.edu
                                   BITNET   : CHIAM@OUACCVMB
                          Use my first Internet address if at all possible.
Disclaimer: What I have said are my opinions, not of anyone else.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:03:08 CDT
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From:         "Miller,Mark E" <MILLERM@GRIN1.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Layered Product Support 1

Regarding the need for LPS, Ellen wrote:

>To clear up an issue regarding layered product support (LPS) and media and
>documentation distribution service (MDDS), CSLG customers do not need to
>purchase LPS unless they require phone support.  CSLG customers can purchase
>MDDS without the prerequisite LPS and therefore self-maintain their software.
>LPS is a prerequisite to MDDS for all non-CSLG customers.

However, I recall this is not a mix-and-match proposition.  If you wish to
have telephbne support for a single product, you must purchase LPS for all
products.  Self-maintenance was explained to me as all-or-nothing.  If we went
on self-maintenance, we had to self-maintain all products.

Could someone comment and perhaps clarify whether this remains true?

Thanks,

Mark
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From:         "Andrew Potter, Assoc. Dir, ISC DCO&TS" <AWPSYS@RITVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      VMS 2-unl licenses

I have a question about the VMS 2 to Unlimited licenses which were
grandfathered into the CSLG program last May.

Does this 2 to unlimited apply to workstations?  We seem to be getting
differing answers from our Sales people.

- Andy
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Subject: VAXstation licensing
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:03:00 GMT
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>As I understand from CSC, this is basically an unlimited license and can not
>be modified in any way - even if I were to make a copy of the whole license
>database for this machine, I couldn't modify the license to limit our
>Interactive users.

The license can be modified easily, the way you describe is NOT how to
modify a license.  My CSLG license has 0 units and MOD_UNITS option.  That
means you can use LMF to make the number of units be whatever you like.
All you have to do is register the CSLG license for VAX-VMS.  Then say:
$ LICENSE MOD VAX-VMS/AUTHORIZATION=that-real-big-number/UNITS=800

This will work quite nicely as long as you are the only one with LMF
access.  Obviously, anyone else with LMF acces can set this license back
to 0 units and you're right back where you started from.
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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:56:09 PDT
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From:         "W. Todd Wipke" <wipke@SECS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject:      DEC Design

Does the DECDESIGN license include the various methods, or are there
other licenses from CSLG that one must use, or does CSLG not include any
of those methods.  Without the methods, is DECDESIGN of any utility?

Todd Wipke
wipke@secs.ucsc.edu
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