HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
Subject: Dead Sighting: TIME/LIFE VIDEO SET!!
Reply-To: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:40:17 GMT

Just saw the ad on some high level (#59?) cable channel.  I only
caught the end, but its four payments of $15 or one payment of
$59.92 (?) for GRATEFUL DEAD, from TIme/Life Video.  That
announcer said something akin to (I'm sick and on anahistemines)
"The greatest rock and roll band" and some song reference, but
I've gone to the bathroom and gotten some juice since and forgot
which one. :-( sorry....

ELLIS OF LEMURIA  email: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
   snail mail: P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA 22903
     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
motto: keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train!!  :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: meyer@netcom.com (Peter Meyer)
Subject: Re: Dealing with People Hogging Seats at Shows 
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:00:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.190016.9244@dvorak.amd.com> wwilliam@dvorak.amd.com (Wade Williams) writes:
>In article <C01oxD.7Ix@askinc.ask.COM> robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen) writes:
>>
>>I was one of the people who started this thread during the recent Oakland 
>>shows.  However, some woman flamed us and referred to us as "the whiners".
>>(To you, my dear, a heartfelt "Fuck you!"  It's my $50, I can "whine" if I 
>>want...)
>>
>>get irritated.  Go with the flow, man (NOT!).   Go to most any other concert,
>>like MetallicA, try to save 20 seats, and get your ass kicked.  
>>
>>Maybe it's about time people started acting like they were at any other show, 
>>and learn to conform to basic rules and coexist without being so damn greedy
>>(especially when it's greedy under the guise of hippie "peace and love, man").
>>
>
>You are just approaching this all wrong.  You can "go with the flow" and
>completely twist their whole approch and attitude to make it collapse on
>them.  Be Mobile.  Sit in those empty seats!  Tell them you will relinquish
>them when (if) the owner shows up.  If they insist on having them, move
>over a seat and sit down again.  Hell you have multiple rows of 20 blank
>seats surrounding you.  All those "owners" are not going to show up at 
>once.  If they pull that peace and love pitch on you just ask them who
>is being hurt by your resting in an *EMPTY* seat?  Can't they share with
>a stranger??  And remember, KEEP SMILING ;-)

No, just fucking smack them before they have a chance to protest.
Smiling at them will just make them think your brains is all fucked up
those nasty drugs.  Last year, I went to some of the MSG shows, and
some fucking little weasel tried to tell me that I was sitting in
his friends seat.  I just growled and spit in his face.  He just left.
Problem solved.  Even if the owner shows up, tell them to fuck off.
Ever hear the phrase "finders keepers"?

Once a person leaves their seat in a GA show, it is free for the taking
by anyone who is not a wimp.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: ANDREJKOW@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: Hot Rumour
Reply-To: ANDREJKOW@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:15:44 GMT


	The latest hot rumour has garcia and hunter working on a sequel to
terrapin station inspired by the "Curious George" books.  according to inside
sources, garcia has finished the basic tracks derived from "lady with a fan"
using a working title of "The Man with the Yellow Hat".  Using new MIDI 
technology, garcia will be able to manipulate holographic images of George
and The Man while playing on stage.  The inside source also hinted at a
possible stealth tour of select elementary schools in the 3rd world, with
jamaica already booked.

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "John J. Baier" <jjbaier@odin.icd.ab.com>
Subject: RE:Height Deficiency, GD Skis
Reply-To: jjbaier@odin.icd.ab.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:26:35 GMT


To whoever wrote about finding the Dark Star Skis in 190 only, I have been
to a store here in Cleveland which has them in several sizes, including
sizes shorter than 190.  I went to this store to look at them, and got
talking to one of the guys at the store who told me there will be new
versions yet to come.  According to this guy (salesman), Grateful Dead
Productions issued a license to one person to design and market skis with
Grateful Dead logos/icons on them.  This person previously worked for Olin
Skis (thus the Dark Star being based on an Olin Slalom Ski), but has now
moved to K2 Skis.  Apparently, the license moved to K2 with the person (I
don't know his name, anybody else?).  So, there will be a new K2 ski
coming out sometime in the near future with a different design using GD
type logos and such.  In fact, a friend of mine saw these at a Ski show and
said they are even cooler than the current Dark Star Skis (the new ones
have a combined rainforest/Grateful Dead style).  Also, the base skis for both
the Dark Star (Olin) and the new ones (K2) are fairly comparable, both are
fairly stiff, and racing/slalom skis.

Anyway, before going out and laying down big bucks on the Dark Stars, you
might want to wait for the next batch (hopefully it will really happen).
Also, some of this stuff can be considered just heresay since I haven't
actually seen the new K2 myself (if it really exists).

I'd be glad to discuss it with anybody via email...

Believe it if you need it,
John


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: cook@barleywine.atd.ucar.edu (Forrest Cook)
Subject: Sun format Dead audio samples
Keywords: Short samples
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:27:14 GMT

I have given a few Dead samples in Sun .au format to the
good folks at gdead.berkeley.edu, you will find them in the
/ftp/pub/gdead/sounds/SunAuFormat directory.
Don't forget to ftp them to your site with binary mode.

The new files are:
baybee.au       hard2handle.au  tennjed.au
bobbyha.au      jerry1.au       violalee.au

These are short snippets that are suitable for things like email
announcers and the like...  "I got a letter"

Have fun, pppppps

--
 ^   ^  Forrest Cook - < Is that a REAL network or is it a SEARS network? RCD >
/|\ /|\ cook@stout.atd.ucar.edu WB0RIO (This posting is my OPINION)
/|\ /|\ {husc6|rutgers|ames|gatech}!ncar!stout!cook
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: chuck@cmhcsys.cmhcsys.com (Chuck Stickelman)
Subject: Re: A Better Idea
Organization: CMHC Systems
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 23:03:54 GMT
Summary: Yea! Me too!!

In article <93007.101007MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>, <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:
> In article <4472@unisql.UUCP>, wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) says:
> >
> >In article <MAX.93Jan6123704@frabjous.u.washington.edu>
> >max@hitl.washington.edu
> >(Max Minkoff) writes:
> >>Next time you feel like flaming someone publicly, instead of showing all
> >
> >        Why?  I mean, why _shouldn't_ someone express themselves ?
> >  Listen, I don't tell anal-retentive bozos prostituting themselves
> >for the military-industrial complex not to make snide remarks about
> >Secret Mailing Lists, do I?  Hell, no!  They've got a right to be
> >obnoxious pinheads.  And *I've* got a right to flame 'em for it.
> 
> You're expressing yourself is making my experience here less desirable,
> and I don't think that I am the only one who feels that way.  And I'm not

deleted LOTS of good words...

> 
> Joe Doheny

Well Joe _IS_ right!  I've been reading r.m.gd for many months.  MANY times
(too many IMHO) I've seen WARFIE thrash someone.  It's BULLSHIT!!  I keep
hoping that this shit will stop and that the people w/ the bad attitudes
will go-away, but it doesn't happen.  We all recently were exposed to yet
ANOTHER FLAMING IDIOT hell-bent on showing the whole net.world how big of
an idiot he can be!!!   Why!?  What's it prove!?  I DON'T WANT A KILL FILE!!
I want to be able to think that everyone has an opinion worth hearing!

Oh well, life goes on!  Maybe if EVERYONE just ignores this crap it WILL go
away!!??  I'm willin' to try.

ppppppppppppppp's
Chuck
chuck@cmhcsys.com
From: mjwagner@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Mike Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: East Coast Net Gatherings?
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:05:04 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I read about net gatherings on the west coast and wonder if there has been
or is going to be one anytime in the not-so-distant future for us east and
kinda-a east coasters??

Mike
From: news@isc-br.isc-br.com (news user)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Personal/Shawn Gordon
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:07:59 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company


  Sorry for the personal folks.

 Shaun,

  I received the message you sent yesterday and It appears you discovered a
 real bug in email communications here. Looks like we can't communicate to
 any site that has hp.com in the address. And at the same time there were no
 indication of that here for me. Anyway glad you received the one message the
 other day and yes I'm still interested in getting that show. Please disregard
 any other messages that might slip through again. Hopefully the bug will get
 fix soon, but I don't know.  I still can received mail from you however.


Thanks


Lennie Carlberg
N 3001 Martin
Spokane,Wa 99207
From: ep14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Ebeling Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: 48 hours
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:45:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QfHDX2i00iV4I5cH8Q
Organization: Junior, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

One thing interesting about the shot of the Dead...
it seemed somewhat appropriate that the one song shown was 
Shakedown Street...and the young innocent kid who just "made a mistake"
right before the clip...

hmmmmm......someone was thinking
Organization: The Syd Barrett Appreciation Society
X-Mac-Bust: The Best Way To accelerate a Macintoy is at 9.8m/s^2
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:40:50 EST
From: Charles Fee <CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: who played rain in december?

Just curious as to who sang 'rain' during the December shows.
a friend of mine thinks it might have been vince, but he honestly
has no real idea, just a guess. If anyone has any solid information,
he and I would really appreciate it :-) :-)


mail order tomorrow, broke tuesday.. :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "Seth M. Dworken" <p00123@psilink.com>
Subject: Eric - need gif directory path
Organization: KC3IL, Fairless Hills PA, USA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:24:48 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

Att'n Eric Sheehan - In what directory on gdead.berkeley.edu did you
put the es.gdead.gif file?

Please advise for us lowlifes that don't have interactive FTP access.

Thanks much & Regards,  Seth

                 "Now is the test of the Boomerang..."


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: achilles@cheshire.oxy.edu (Gregory Jonathan Williams)
Subject: Post Office Lost my tapes...What to do?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 10:44:13 GMT

Coming back to school from Christmas break, I was quite happy to see a package
of tapes had arrived.  When I got the package from my dorm's front desk, however, I was dismayed.  The package seemed to have been torn open and quite haphazardly taped back together.  Newspaper padding was sticking out and there were largegaping holes in the mailer.  The package was stamped three times with this message.  "Damaged In Handling In The Postal Service."  I'm am shocked that the Post
Office exhibited such careless handling and lack of concern for making sure their packages arrive undamaged.  The package was sent via 2-day priority mail and
shipped in a good envelope.  Anyway, I am quite angry and am wondering if anyone
has had a similar experience.  Is there anything i can do?  If thge package
wasn't insured will I be able to get some recompensation?  would they keep the 
missing tapes at that particular post office's lost and found/dead letter dept?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

-Greg
achilles@cheshire.oxy.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,comp.sys.atari.st,rec.music.synth
From: tjl@zeus02.desy.de (Tim Llewellyn)
Subject: C-Lab/Emagic Notator V3.1 Falcon incompatible...
Reply-To: tjl@zeus02.desy.de (Tim Llewellyn)
Organization: Bristol University Particle Physics Group /ZEUS Online
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:18:43 GMT

Hi

i have heard in musicians press in UK etc that C-Lab Notator (current
version v3.15) is
NOT falcon compatible. The review I read stated that it hung just before
the main screen
appears.

Also, Evenlode, who are mainly known for distributing Steinberg
products, are advertising Notator as NOT Falcon030 compatible, wheras
Cubase 3.0 apparently is.

Anyone got any hard facts, or even pure speculation. I don't really want
to buy Cubase,
especially as I probably won't be able to get much for my Notator now
anyway... If
anything I'd upgrade to Mac plus Notator Logic (but will have to make
some dosh first...).

Does the change from C-lab -> Emagic mean Notator will no lonmger be
supported???

--
Tim Llewellyn			
Zeus-UK VMS guru
Soukous Addict
ZEUS02::TJL,BRSPVA::TJL,TJL@ZEUS02.DESY.DE,TJL@SIVA.BRIS.AC.UK
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar,rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund)
Subject: Re: Concrete questions on music reading
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
	<kkretsch.726754014@unix1.tcd.ie>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:01:55 GMT

First of all: It is very usefull to be able to read music (although
some great musicians do not read music, and some of them have even
composed quite complex music. Paul McChartney do not read music, as an
example).

If you have good and trained (yes, trained) ears, you can learn a lot
with them. But it is often difficult to get for instance the
individual notes of a chord just by ear, even if you recognize how it
sounds.

If you rely on chord diagrams and tabulature, you can only use music
that someone has written out for guitar. You cannot play for instance
Carlie Parker solos from a saxophone book.

Sight reading is practice, practice, practice, as som much else. You
must train both your ears and your fingers. You should be able to
recognize both the music and the fingering from a score.

One book designed very much for sight reading practice is Tommy
Tedesco: For Guitar Players Only. It is definitly not a beginner book,
but it will give you a lot of sight reading material to practice,
written for the guitar. Use the book, a metronome and plenty of time.

Olav Torvund
Oslo, Norway
Olavt@jus.uio.no

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: gord@jericho.uucp (Gord Wait)
Subject: Re: What's a "vocal mike"? (Re: FOR SALE: NEW mics)
Organization: S-MOS Systems, Inc. (Vancouver Design Center)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:08:47 GMT

In article <C0F0IL.IG4@megatest.com> djones@megatest.com (Dave Jones) writes:

>I had an SM57 for my tenor sax, but I didn't like the tight directionality
>cone. (I like to move with the music a little sometimes.) So I got a 58 a
>couple of years ago and I've like it just fine. Now I find out that it's
>"great for vocals" but the 57 is "excellent for instruments". I thought
>the idea was to reproduce the sound accurately in either case.
>
>'Splain please.
>
>(I paid $86 for the 58. I guess I got lucky. )


When I bought my SM58, I asked what the difference was between the 57
and 58. The answer (and I've heard this before) was that the cartridge
inside is identical, but that the 58 cover keeps your lips a minimum
distance away from the cartridge, to avoid popping. The 57 only has a
little screen right on the cartridge, which would allow you to place
it closer to the sound source than a 58. (course you can always remove
the 58's metal ball for closer miking ..)
-- 
Gord Wait 	SMOS Systems Vancouver Design Centre
uunet!jericho!gord
gord%jericho@uunet.uu.net

Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:11740 rec.music.makers.guitar:1175
From: wrm@friskie.WPI.EDU (William Michalson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Evaluating PAs
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:31:40 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: friskie.wpi.edu

Related to my last post, I'm curious how folks in general try to test
PA equipment in the store in order to get a good idea of how it will
perform in reality.  What are your pet "acid-tests" for mixers, powered
mixers, amplifiers, and speakers (short of bringing in the whole band and
re-arranging the store, possible, but I'd have to buy A LOT of gear!)?

Thanks.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: keeler@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Jason Keeler)
Subject: IBM and .MOD files  
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 06:12:37 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, SK, Canada

Recently, I heard of a program which would play .MOD (from the Amiga) files
on an IBM compatible with a Soundblaster (or equivalent?) card.  Is this
possible?  I was under the impression that Soundblaster was only 1 channel
with respect to its sample playback capabilities.  This would create a problem
as the Amiga's .MOD files are 4 (I've also heard 8) channel.

...Jason
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
From: feuling@astroatc.uucp (Lindsay Feuling)
Subject: Re: Oil in drum heads
Organization: Astronautics Technology Cntr, Madison, WI
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:27:39 GMT

Yes, the Evans heads DO contain oil between the two layers of drum head.
I've been using these type for many many years, and swear that they give 
better performance than any pin-stripe head will give you.  They're really
not that expensive.  IMHO, if you want to buy a cheap drum head, e.g. Ludwig,
then you might as well be playing a cardboard box.
From: mafu@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Markus Fuenfrocken)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: Beginner - practice pad?
Date: 9 Jan 1993 17:09:33 GMT
Organization: Studenten-Mail, Rechenzentrum Universitaet des Saarlandes
NNTP-Posting-Host: sbustd.stud.uni-sb.de


SORRY DUDE ! I TRY AGAIN :


tanswell@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ron Tanswell) writes:
> Although I have only sat behind a drum kit twice, I have always wanted
> to learn how to play.  So, I am planning on taking drum lessons this year.
> 

Good idea ! Dont try to learn it by yourself (like i did! My left
hand is a mess !)


> Someone suggested to me that I buy some sticks and a practice pad.  So I did;
> I bought 2 sticks and a Remo Tunable Practice Pad.  Now that I have it,
> I really don't know what to do with it.
> 
> Are there any exercises or "things" that I can do with it to help me before I
> get into lessons?  For that matter, what use is it during lessons?

First you have to learn the different fingerbounce-techniques.
There should be some pads where you take the lessons, so you just
need it at home to PRACTICE (yep, thats why its named so!) your
exercises..

> I realize that it is useful for getting a feel for stick bounce, and that it
> is a quiet drum, but is that it?
> 
> Oh yeah, and with this tuning thread, why would anyone want to tune a
> practice pad?

Nobody will ! Just screw it up as hard as you can to get the best
bounce! Good luck !
> 

> Thanks,
> 	-Ron.
You`re welcome !
	-Markus
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Bass drum triggers
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:00:48 GMT

horeff@cirrus.com (Steve Horeff) writes:

>I'm looking for some net wisdom, advice, comparisons, prices (not too much to 
>ask huh) on bass drum triggers.  I've seen the fatKat and Roland setups but 
>have never tried them.  I'm concerned about the feel of the pedal and would 
>like to match the feel of a real bass drum as much as possible.

   Well, I haven't had experience with them, but Space Muffins seem like
the ultimate in real-feeling triggers. Any place close where you could
try one?

Muff
From: dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: Heads up
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:28:48 GMT
Reply-To: dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1iirpfINNgp2@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, rmascaro@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Robert Mascaro) writes:
|>Could someone please pass me some info on Dave Weckl's new release Heads
|>Up. Is it good (better then Masterplan??) ?? What Muso's are playing

Here's the scoop on Weck's new CD:


    Dave Weckl's latest CD, "Heads Up" is out, and having listened to it
    extensively for the last couple of weeks, I think it's somewhat better
    than his initial release, "Master Plan".  I actually think it's more
    melodic (all things being relative of course; let's face it, Weckl and
    melodic is somewhat of a paradox) than "Master Plan" also.

    The songs:

    1. 7th Ave. South
    2. Heads Up
    3. Taboo
    4. Tomatillo
    5. Periphal Vision
    6. Tee Funk
    7. Against the Wall
    8. Full Moon
    9. Trigger Happy

    The musicians:

    Jay Oliver, Jimmy Earl (bass), Eric Marienthal, Randy Brecker, John
    Patitucci, Steve Tavaglione, Jeff Beal, and Gary Novak.

    The title track, "Heads Up" is probably the funkiest thing I've heard
    from Weckl, and it cooks.  Even more surprising is the fact that he's
    credited with playing bass on this tune, and he plays some real funky
    bass riffs.

    The CD also has the Corea-inspired fusion stuff that tends to get old
    and sound uninspired sometimes.  If Weckl wasn't so damn talented, (in
    my opinion), this would no doubt be another Corea clone fusion CD, by
    yet another jazz artist.  Granted, you need to have an appreciation for
    not only Weckl, but Corea's music as well in order to enjoy most of
    the stuff Weckl does.  But he does it WELL.

    If I have one complaint of Weckl, it's that he doesn't play with enough
    feeling, or soul.  There's a pop song he performs ("Mercy, Mercy"
    originally by the Buckinghams) on the Buddy Rich Memorial video that (I
    think) shows his lack of soul for pop music.  Granted, he's one of the
    most technically proficient drummers around, but you've got to have
    some soul and feeling when you play.  I think Vinnie is probably as
    technical as Weckl, but he also has the ability to play pop/rock
    material extremely well (check out the latest Sting live video).

--
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From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: Flame bait ? Oil in drum heads.
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:48:06 GMT

In <1993Jan7.135617.17985@news.acns.nwu.edu> craigman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Craig Anderson) writes:

>I think
>that there may actually be an oiled head out there somewhere, made by Evans. 

Evans Hydraulic.  Sort of like a Remo PinStripe, but with oil in between
the two membranes.  Now what do you do when you break through the top
membrane is my question.....?  :)


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From: tms@geovax.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: exit
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:40:17 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh, Geography Department.


Yet more on drum tuning,

Modern Drummer did a good article on this about 5 or 6 years ago.  If anyone
wants I'll dig it out and post a summary of it.

I've also found the Drum Torque fairly useful too.  It gives you a better idea
of the tension on each of the lugs than a standard drum-key.  The instructions
provided with it also give a number of suggested drum tunings.

Terry 
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion