From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: From the Stanford Daily #1
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:25:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.022721.17911@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> ajh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Hu) writes:
>Hi Folks,
>	I've had several requests for this stuff.  Enjoy.
>					--Alan "I'm not Arthur" Hu
>From the Stanford Daily (Stanford's main paper), November 30, 1992.
>
>Badmouthing and blacklisting
>
>	Huang said students who date outside
>their race often ``go on a black list, and
>then when you want to date within the
>race, nobody trusts you.''
>	``Betty,'' an Asian-American student,
>is currently dating an African-American man.  She has dated
>Caucasian men in the past, and fears that, although she would like
>to date Asian men, she may never have the chance.
>	Asian men have voiced their disp-
>proval by calling Betty `` `whitewashed,'
>`cherry blossom' and every other deroga-
>tory name,'' she said.
>	``I know I've already been labeled as
>only dating white men, even though my
>current boyfriend is black,'' she added.

This is certainly the untold truism.  My parents did warn us a lot
about an aunt who dated interracially, and then wasn't trusted by
Chinese men anymore, so the poor thing had to marry this white guy
who then cheated on her and left her with four children to raise
on her own.  Another aunt did the same thing and her husband beat
her up and left her neurotic with three children.  Of course, the
moral of the story is, "don't date interracially, because you 
can never go back."  It tended to have the opposite effect on me
because I figured, well if these Asian guys don't want me, who
cares?  It's like you're "ruined" if they see you with one nonAsian
guy, and x-ed you off their list.

>	``Julie'' is an Indian-American woman
>who has been casually dating a Caucasian
>man for two years -- without telling her
>parents.  She said she may never date an
>Indian man because she does not con-
>form to what she perceives as teh inher-
>ently sexist cultural ideal of the ``submis-
>sive Indian woman.''
>	A human biology major, Julie is look-
>ing foward to medical school and a stint
>in the Peace Corps -- something she could not
>accomplish in a traditional Indian marriage.
>	``There are so many Indian women
>who have M.D.s but don't even practice
>because of their husbands,'' she said.
>	In addition, Julie said her relation-
>ships would be much more serious if she
>dated within her race.
>	``Indian men tend to look for wives,
>because it's either that or an arranged
>marriage,'' she said.  ``The concept of dat-
>ing someone who you're not planning to
>marry is really alien to them.''

  Yeah, this bothers me.  Julie herself is Indian-American and has
  American atttitudes.  What makes her automatically think that Indian-
  American guys raised just like her are going to be like the ones from
  India and want a submissive Indian woman?  Looks like she's failing
  to distinguish between -cu and -ge.

>	From her previous marriage [to a white man],
>Akiyama learned that ``race is an
>issue.  A very intrinsic part of
>who I am is being Japanese-
>American.  I need to be with a
>man who, without necessarily
>being one himself, understands
>the complexities of being a per-
>son of color in this country.''

[her current husband is a Black man.]

  Exactly!  This is something you discover (as my sister has with her
  insensitive soon-to-be ex-husband), that is very hard to relate to
  someone who doesn't have an inkling where you're coming from.
  That's why I feel more comfortable with a Black man than with
  a white man or a banana.
>
>[Personal comments:  my hands are tired.  :-)  several good points,
>interesting insight into people's attitudes (sometimes scary
>insights into people's racism), but overall, cheap, sensationalistic,
>voyeurism, based on rampant sterotyping.  Most typos are mine,
>but the Daily has plenty of its own.]

  What!  No OCR?  You should get Lui to help you out on this.
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