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From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Subject: Moon Martin/John Martyn
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:16:13 GMT

Are they related?  And if they really *are* Siamese twins separated
at birth, why do they look so different?

Did Moon ever do anything other than the wonderful 1979 album "Escape
from Domination"?  I seem to recall that at one time Capital was 
hyping this guy pretty heavily, but obviously his career never took
off.  Too bad, because "Escape from Domination" works just fine -
great hooks, catchy choruses, and that long-gone seventies power pop 
sound that would do Dave Edmunds and Nick Lowe and NRBQ proud.   
Does anybody else remember this guy or know what happened to him?

And why does John insist on releasing these overblown synth-dominated
albums?  He's one of the finest folk singers and most inventive guitarists 
ever to come out of Scotland (pick up "Solid Air" or "Sunday's Child" if 
you don't believe me), but the couple of eighties albums that I've
heard have left me cold.  Has he released any folk-oriented material
in the last ten years or so that compares to "Solid Air" or "Sunday's
Child"?

Any information would be appreciated.  For that matter, any information
on Mary Martin, Dean Martin, Rowan and Martin, Martin Luther, or Martina 
Navratilova would be great too.  Thanks.

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
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ajw@cblpn.att.com
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:29205 rec.music.christian:9546 rec.music.folk:8472
From: zen@death.Corp.Sun.COM (d)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.christian,rec.music.folk
Subject: Bruce Cockburn mailing list
Date: 12 Dec 1992 06:15:27 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: death.corp.sun.com


  Hello -- this is a (probably periodic) announcement of the Bruce 
Cockburn mailing list -- "humans".  You can get on the list by mailing
to:

humans-request@death.corp.sun.com

  You should get some kind of moderately timely response; if not, feel
free to mail to me -- zen@death.corp.sun.com.

  What is the list all about?  Basically, anything relating to Bruce Cockburn
is fair game.  Concerts (reviews and dates), recordings (albums, cd's,
promos, bootlegs, etc.), blathering fandom, personal quips, quotes, and
stories, etc.  For the uninitiated, "humans" is one of his (better, IMHO)
albums, as well as a description of the people on the list.

  FYI, there are a bit over 100 people on the list, and the volume is
moderately low.  If you desire to see the old articles posted since the
list started (several megs :-)), you can send me mail at "humans-request"
(along with your request to join, if you desire.)

 -- dan

Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:29229 rec.music.cd:8323
From: goetz@acsu.buffalo.edu (Phil Goetz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd
Subject: Bits per sample, Memory size of CDs
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:40:00 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

OK, sampling rate is 44,100 Hz, 2 channels per sample.
How many bits per channel?
(I want to calculate the # of bytes of memory on a CD.)

Phil
goetz@cs.buffalo.edu

Please reply by mail.
From: andyj@phoebe.loni.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: They're Coming To Take Me Away ...
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:25:58 GMT
Reply-To: afj@anes.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Dept. of Pharmacology, Los Angeles, CA

There was a song (of sorts) of the same name by a character calling himself
Napoleon Bonaparte XIV. It came out on a single (45RPM) maybe 22-23 years
ago. The flip side had the song recorder backwards. A real collectors item.

-- 


-Andy Jacobson  <andyj@phoebe.loni.ucla.edu>
From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (The Meathead)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Bands with black bassists
Date: 12 Dec 1992 23:30:33 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <4345@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>In article <malcolm.723974246@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>>
>>I think one of the guys in James Brown's band was a black bassist:
>>Boosty or something like that? I had an album by him once.  
>
>Yeah!  Yeah!  Boosty Rollins!  (nicknamed Boosty because of his shoes.)
>His new band is the Rollins Band now, I think; they have an album called
>"Saxaphone Confucius" on Blue-Tone, which is a ska label.

  Ah, how about BOOTSY Collins? :) Incidentally, why are we making such a big
deal about female bassists and black bassists? Shouldn't these things be
irrelevant? What about just GOOD bassists??

-- 
|    Tim Webb               |    cold summer listening                      |
|    tcw@kepler.unh.edu     |      hot color melting the anger to stone     |
From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (The Meathead)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Bands with black bassists
Date: 15 Dec 1992 03:46:01 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <4370@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>In article <1gdsmpINNc8p@mozz.unh.edu> tcw@kepler.unh.edu (The Meathead) writes:
>>In article <4345@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>>>Yeah!  Yeah!  Boosty Rollins!  (nicknamed Boosty because of his shoes.)
>>>His new band is the Rollins Band now, I think; they have an album called
>>>"Saxaphone Confucius" on Blue-Tone, which is a ska label.
>>
>>  Ah, how about BOOTSY Collins? :) 
>
>Are you sure?  I could swear I had all my facts straight.

  I know nothing about the Rollins Band, but have you not heard of Bootsy
Collins? And if this name came from his shoes how could it be Boosty? You
wear boots, not boosts.  :-)))))))))))))))

-- 
|    Tim Webb               |    cold summer listening                      |
|    tcw@kepler.unh.edu     |      hot color melting the anger to stone     |
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: God's Favorite Band?
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:25:42 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <2B280CF5.21671@news.service.uci.edu> cnc@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Christopher Christensen) writes:
|I was browsing in Tower Records today and I saw a CD by a band called
|GOD'S FAVORITE BAND. 


God's Favorite Band?  That would be Rush.  We all know the Neil Peart *is*
God, thus Rush would have to be God's favorite band.

|The album was IN THROUGH THE OUTHOUSE and it
|looked EXACTLY like the cover of Led Zeppelin's IN THROUGH THE OUT
|DOOR!  Very cute indeed.  It piqued my interest, but not enough for
|me to buy it.. anyone know what the music is like?  Is the music a
|Zepp parody too?  Is it worth having?  Opinions welcome..
|TIA [thanks in advance]..
 
This is actually a Rush album with the band doing Zepp covers with Bootsy 
Collins sitting in on bass.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson)
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY -- PLEASE ANSWER**
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 13:20:08 EST
Organization: Lost Tribes of Gazebo

Jason Boardman solicits *email* on Sinead O'Connor, but our boy
mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) just
*has* to post:

>Jason Boardman (boarjas@elof.iit.edu) wrote:
>: Do you still support (or have a general good opinon of)
>: Sinead O'Connor?
>
>Still? Still? Do you mean there are people who liked her
>*before* she slept with the pope?

. . . and other bliterings.

Scott--has anyone remarked on what an idiot you are lately?  If not,
consider yourself reminded.

-- 
       Rod Johnson  *  rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu  *  (313) 764-3103
    
                "What I do doesn't happen in a warehouse"
                                          --Jim Dickinson
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: peter@kentrox.uucp (Peter Uchytil)
Subject: Re: Need Songs About Sailing/Boats
Organization: ADC Kentrox - Portland, Oregon
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:37:06 GMT

Check out stuff by Jimmy Buffett.  
"One Particular Harbor" sort of
"Jolly Mon"
"Pirate looks at 40" sort of

Lots of others.  I think he has a disc in his 4 box set devoted
to sailing.

Pete

-- 
Peter Uchytil   | ADC Kentrox Industries | "Let your dreams start a fire
peter@kentrox.com |  Portland, Oregon    |  Let your hopes fan the flames"
From: chrisl@sancho.sybase.com (Xian the Drive)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Concept Albums"
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:33:57 GMT

David Bowie - "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars"

--
+------------+
|    xian    | "If we don't change directions, we might
| ----<--<@  |  end up where we're heading." - David Bowie,
+------------+      with tin machine, 12/17 1991
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: kelm@curie.nrl.navy.mil (Bernie Kelm)
Subject: David Byrne/Heads CD Singles?
Organization: Naval Reseach Lab, Washington, DC  
Distribution: rec.music.misc
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:09:23 GMT

   Hi,  Was wondering if anybody (particularily anybody in the UK) could help 
me find out what David Byrne and/or Talking Heads CD singles are available.
Thusfar I've gotten import (from UK) copies of Hanging Upside Down 1&2 (is 
part 3 out?) and She's Mad 3 (making me assume there's a 1&2?).  Have 
sporadic luck catching these titles and want to know what I'm missing (so I
can tell the local import shops what to look for as they generally don't know
what's out 'til it arrives at their door).

Thanks,
Bernie (kelm@curie.nrl.navy.mil)
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:29483 rec.music.cd:8458 alt.music.alternative:18583
From: bgray1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Brandon)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd,alt.music.alternative
Subject: _Endless Nameless_
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:13:51 GMT
Organization: Only represent myself...

In article <1992Dec17.070547.27142@eskimo.com>, shoe@eskimo.com (Brian
Foote) writes:
> 
> caine@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:
> > 
> > >well if you have the song yes there is ten minutes of silence
> > >and of course the tape doesn't have it at all.....
> > >now if anyone understands the complete lyrics to this song i would be
> impressed

     I found this in a file server...don't know who originally posted it,
but I suppose that it's about as close as I or anyone else would be able to
guess...if anyone else has any ideas, feel free to respond.  Later much!

------------------
 Endless Nameless
------------------

Silence
Here I am
Here I am
Silent

Bright and clear
It's what I am
I have
Died

uhhhh
uhhhh
uhhhh
uhhhh

Death
With violence
Excitment
Right here

Died
Go to hell
Here I am
Right here

Ow

No mas
No mas
No mas
No mas

Death
Is what I am
what I am
Death is


In back of that
Crime
Here I am
Take a chance
Dead

Die
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Return of the Son of the Non-Top Ten best (4 of 5)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:23:46 GMT

gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor) writes:

>(artists unnamed) "The Tahitian Choir" [Triloka] 
[...]
>It's all a capella, and a large ensemble (maybe 100-150?) people. The
>work is, on its surface, really pretty recognizeable; 

Which is exactly why I passed on it after a cursory listening.  I pulled
it out again last night and was reminded for the bazillionth time of the
foolishness of cursory listening.  I couldn't have expected so much
subtlety from such a large ensemble. 

>The one vocal technique that I've not heard anywhere else, though, is 
>this eerie choral effect that sounds like the entire choir does a pitch 
>bend *down* in unison.

A vocal doppler effect.  Stunning.

It's even more rewarding to have your ears reopened by a post like Gregory's
than to learn about something new.  Thanks.

-- Clay
      	  "Existence is existence throughout all of existence."
				-- Stephen Grossman

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.industrial,alt.rave,rec.audio
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: Please help! Laser Print or DAT owners.
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 10:26:36 GMT

Please excuse my crossposting this... I need help with printing
the SonnenSystem cassette inserts... I'm trying to cut the cost and
selling price. If anyone out there has access to a laser printed and
a program which does cassette covers or perhaps just a bubblejet or
something similar, please help me! Email me to discuss a possible trade
for a copy of the tape or other CD or vinyl I'm selling, or even payment.
It's definitely more expensive to get a shop to do it.

Melburnites: I'd pay rent on a portable DAT (and leave a deposit with you)
to copy the tapes (would save me stacks), so please email me...

Thanks everyone! Particularly those who have pre-ordered copies :)

Morgen das SonnenSystem!

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For a cassette of SonnenSystem tracks, studio produced and mastered to DAT
email: pet@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au, pet@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au, SonnenSystem
--
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Beloved, New Order, Pet Shop Boys, Stone Roses, Inspiral Carpets,
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: tlp31807@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (T.I. double G-GER )
Subject: Re: They're Coming To Take Me Away ...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:08:23 GMT

aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:

>I saw a copy of the single on a juke box here and the B-side
>is actually called

>"Ah ah yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yeht"


Huh???   translation please...

:-)
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Squeezing through "The Grid"
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:10:08 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Distribution: world, rec, usa
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>This sounds interesting. Grid fans might want also want
>to check out "A Week In the Real World - Part 1", a new
>WOMAD collection, which includes 2 Grid tracks in a similar
>vein, that is, collaborations stylee.

Yipes! This kind of pointer is why I read here. I'd not have heard of
it otherwise. Hmmm - Real World is about due for another pack of domestic
releases, which might well include that Shaila Chandra CD that I kept
hearing while I was in Europe in July. Come on, Real World!

>The Grid colloborations include one with a Spanish guitar
>player (forget his name) who rips over some ambient funk,
>and a second with members of the southern US RnB revivalist
>group the Holmes Brothers. The rest of the tracks are
>almost uniformly satisfying. I am most impressed by the
>powerful voice of Laplander Mari Boine.

This begins to sound quite a lot like a mix of their "regulars" of
sorts. The Mari Boine Persson is particularly, since I was as impressed
with you by her vocalizing on "Gula Gula", but less impressed by the
backing stuff. I guess that in the interests of authenticity they
maybe wanted to stay minimal, but the Geoffrey Oryema album "Exile"
was such a nice mix of traditional styles and that warm bed of electronics
that I wouldn't mind hearing that soaring Lapp voice with a little
kick drum. Maybe this is my chance....
--
The law moves quickly in the rain/and chokes the world with memorials./The
courts accept the lowest superstition/into evidence. And we embrace quickly in
the rain,/conceiving a hale infant with hands to wrinkle/the bedsheets toward
it, wave by trough by wave./Gregory Taylor/Heurikon /Madison, WI/608-828-3385
From: as081@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve R. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Who sang this song???  ("Because"???)
Date: 20 Dec 1992 03:03:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: as081@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve R. Smith)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


The lyrics go...

...give me one kiss and I'll be happy
Just, just to be-ee with you-oo
Give me, give me, a chance to be near you,
Because, because, I-I love yoooooo...

They play it on the local oldies station a lot, but I never caught who
sings it, and I really hate talking to deejays... :)

				Thanx a bunch...

					5+e\/e
-- 
"It's very difficult to look at the possibility of lesbian sheep, because if 
you are a female sheep, what you do to solicit sex is to stand still.  Maybe
there is a female sheep out there really wanting another female, but there's
just no way for us to know it." --Anne Perkins, University of California
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Subject: Re: A Ray Shea Wannabe?  (was Re: Bands with black bassists)
Organization: The Off Beat
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:24:04 GMT

Me...

> C'mon Dave (can I call you Dave?), follow this up, okay?  Pleeease?
 
David Baggett...

> I really don't need to keep following up; you're making my case
> perfectly well without my help with posts just like these.

And you, Dave (can I call you Dave?), make my case perfectly well... with
posts just like these.  *TAG*  You're it.

-dx
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: W A R N I N G   A L L:  Do you really need to post?
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:40:41 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


You forget a few things about how Usenet works.  When you post
something, it may take a day or so from the time that you post it to
the time that every machine has it available.  So, replies get
duplicated by various people because the other replies have not
arrived at their sites and they all (yourself included) think that
they are the first.

This combined with the fact that many people don't want to read an
entire tree of responses before replying, and with some newsreaders
(like rn) this is too difficult anyway.
-- 
  |)  David Charlap          | .signature confiscated by FBI due to
 /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu | an ongoing investigation into the
((|,)                        | source of these .signature virusses
 ~|~
From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: A Ray Shea Wannabe?  (was Re: Bands with black bassists)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:40:10 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <1992Dec15.052813.4929@netcom.com> dx@netcom.com (dx) writes:
>> ...Personally,
>> I fail to see how a two-word followup could warrant such a nasty
>> response.
>
>Because, Dave (can I call you Dave?), you seem immeasurably thick-headed.

You are more than welcome to call me Dave, dx'ter, all my friends do.
As for being thick-headed, I have no desire to contest that, frankly,
as I find it wholly irrelevant. 

>The whole point is to see how riled everyone can get you.  

Ah, and that excuses you guys being rude and obnxious.  I see.
Thanks for clearing that up!  I'll have to make sure I reread the
Usenet etiquette postings, because I missed the part that says
that you can totally ignore basic civility if you want to play
a little game with someone in a public forum.

>Unfortunately, you seem to rile fairly easy, 

Don't you mean "fortunately?"  Since you're enjoying glorifying
yourselves as pompous bullies in front of thousands of people, you
must really like the fact that I give you such wonderful opportunities
to show your true colors.

>C'mon Dave (can I call you Dave?), follow this up, okay?  Pleeease?

I really don't need to keep following up; you're making my case
perfectly well without my help with posts just like these.

Dave Baggett
--
dmb@ai.mit.edu           MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory                  
ADVENTIONS: interactive fiction (text adventures) for the 90's!
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: George Michael
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:06:24 GMT

In article <Bz5As8.JJ4@ns1.nodak.edu> funches@plains (Ariel Funches) writes:
>
>Does anyone know if George Michael is making another album anytime soon. 
>Listen Without Predjudice vol. 2 was supposed to be made in November of
>'9, but it hasn't.  I know that he did that Red, Hot, and Dance Album
>about 2 month ago.  I also heard a rumor that he is making a album that
>will have other people singing songs that he will write (or have written).
> Some info, please!!!!!
>

I heard he's about the become what Curt Flood or Andy Messersmith were
to baseball...he's suing his record company, I believe it is Sony,
for "free agency", and it will be a legal case with potentially
enormous implications.

Gerald

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: GRIPE!
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:08:12 GMT

How many of you like that damn silver tape that they seal cd's with when they
are shrink-wrapped inside the long-box?  I can never get the damn thing to peal
off completely and end up with that gummy glue on the case...

Chris Hudson
-- 
Save the Sharks!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 I canna change the laws of physics, Captain, but I can find ye a loophole
From: QQ15@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (Pete Mallinson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Trust House Forte music
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:33:21 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

I'm trying to find out the origin of the music that
is played on the Trust House Forte advert that contains
no voice whatsoever - lots of different views, themes
ending with the mention of the hotel.

My dad really likes it and wanted me to record it off
the TV (the ad isn't on very much nowadays) but I thought
it would be nice to get him the real recording for Christmas.

Hope someone can help

Pete
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Subject: Re: TOP TEN FAMOUS JAZZ BASSISTS
Organization: The Off Beat
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:05:02 GMT

> There haven't been any good lists here for almost two weeks, and there's
> a lot of comments flying around about S/N ratio and lack of informational
> content in posts. So here's a list of my top 10 famous jazz bassists. 

Gee, Malcolm (can I call you Dave, by the way?), instead of just posting a
list of what you feel to be the objectively best 10 jazz bassists, why don't
you tell us a little about each one, perhaps who they played with, what you
think they contributed to bass playing, recommended albums, etc.

Also, how can this be the 10 best jazz bassists of all time, without having
included a single one from the band Yes?

-dx
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: TOP TEN FAMOUS JAZZ BASSISTS
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:26:55 GMT

malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:

>Why are they my top 10? Because I could remember them. Why are they famous? 
>Because I've heard of them and actually even have recordings with them 
>playing.

A much more important reason is that they've played with Rock musicians.
This shows that they're regarded as best by people who should know, such
as Sting.

-- Clay
      	  "Existence is existence throughout all of existence."
				-- Stephen Grossman
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.newage,rec.music.phish,alt.music.alternative,alt.music.progressive,alt.music.rush,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.metal