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From: tomj@monster.saic.com (Tom Johnson)
Subject: Re: Etymology
Keywords: !, bang
Reply-To: tomj@monster.saic.com (Tom Johnson)
Organization: SAIC, McLean, VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:27:02 GMT

In article <jrauser.712471575@epx.cis.umn.edu> jrauser@epx.cis.umn.edu (Johnny R.) writes:
>
>Hello Folks,
>
>One of my textbooks contains many interesting footnotes which
>describe the history of computer science, particularly the
>etymology of a great deal of jargon.  
>
>It does not however give the etymology of the word "bang", which is
>often used to mean the exclamation point symbol "!".
>
>Does anybody out there know who coined this term and for what reason
>they did so?
>
>Thanks,
>
>John Rauser
>
>-- 
>John Rauser
>jrauser@epx.cis.umn.edu

FWIW:
I'm pretty sure this didn't originate as computer jargon.  I remember
in grade school (in the late '60s or early '70s) that someone tried
to introduce a new puctuation mark called the "interrobang", which was
a question mark superimposed on an exclamation mark.  It was supposed
to indicate quizzical surprise.  It never caught on; people tend to
use ???!!!??? or some such.  Could have come out of the printing industry.
From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Building your own PC
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:37:32 GMT
Organization: 3WA, Boston Office. Or Nu Meta Chi. Take your pick.
In-reply-to: gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu's message of 29 Jul 92 16:07:44 GMT
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>>>>> On 29 Jul 92 16:07:44 GMT, gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu ("Happy Fun
>>>>> Ball") said:

FB> My question: Are there any text files out there (especially obtained by
FB> FTP) that explain how to do this?  Could anyone reccomend any good
FB> published books for the novice?

By best suggestion is if you don't already know what you're doing, *don't
try it*. Used to be you could put together an 8086 from random parts and
it'd work. But the architecture of the '386 and up vary tremendously from
one manufacturer to another. Even if everything is up to specs, it may
still not work properly. Even in house parts for an older '386 won't work
for newer models (for example the first generation Zenith 386s).

Find yourself a few issues of the Computer Shopper, flip through them a few
times. Look for things like assembled systems sans case, keyboard, RAM,
video card, etc.--they'll usually cost less than complete systems.

Important: don't buy the hype. You don't need a 50 MHz 486 with 250Mb hard
disk and 16Mb RAM just for word processing. Likewise, if you plan on doing
lots of math intensive stuff, a 387 coprocessor for a 16-20 MHz 386 will
serve you better (and cost less) than a faster CPU without the math chip.

--Rat

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Xref: sparky comp.misc:3049 comp.multimedia:2279
From: holger@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Holger Hank)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.multimedia
Subject: GIS - where?
Keywords: GIS
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:59:38 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

I'm looking for newsgroups where Geographical Information Systems are
discussed. 
Please e-mail any suggestions.

Holger Hank
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: UNIX: cal 9 1752
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:38:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.085016.11652@sfu.ca> kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel
Ko) writes:

:If you have read the manual page, you should know why ... 
:
: * An unusual calendar is printed for September 1752.  That is the month 11
: * days were skipped to make up for lack of leap year adjustments.  To see
: * this calendar, type:  cal 9 1752

Not everyone's man pages are as descriptive, and you should not
necessarily expect your man pages to correspond to others' man pages.
The SunOS man page just says to "Try September 1752", and the Ultrix,
AIX, and HP-UX man pages for "cal" don't say anything at all about
this.  

					...Mike


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Fun Game: ID this Osbourne from description!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:28:09 GMT
Keywords: Osbourne, lunchbox, portable

ph3@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Hamilton (phys 306)) writes:

>OK, the university here has a Surplus Equipment Recycling Facility (SERF) which
>sells the crap that the university inevitably accumulates. Today, I found an
>old Osbourne among the stuff, and I'm wondering if anyone can ID ir from its
>description.
>If you know what this computer is, and what you think it's worth, please mail
>me or post. 
*----
It sounds like an Osborne I to me.  It runs CP/M, and originally
came bundled with Wordstar and other software.  There were several
factory modifications, including a disk capacity doubler and serial
port fix, that are desirable.  There were a lot of them around,
and they don't bring much money, even among collectors.  It was a
pioneer machine in the sense that it was a complete package,
however non-expandable, which was at the top of the limit of
personal computing when it was made.  It came bundled with all
the software you needed to perform useful tasks.  It was the
Macintosh of its day.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: Brian R. O'Hern
Subject: re: scanner
Followup-To: same
Reply-To: ohernb@lonex.rl.af.mil
Organization: USAFRL (Rome Laboratory AFMC)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 15:38:18 GMT

I have a HP ScanJet Plus with a sheet feeder.  (~$1000)
I also use ReadRight OCR software which will create a file in
almost any format you require: DOS, WordPerfect, Word... (~$300)

The setup works well, but as always faxed, handwritten, poorly
photocopied pages are not likely to work.

E-mail for sources.
BRO'HERN
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In article <22832@oasys.dt.navy.mil> popkin@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kenneth Popkin) writes:
>We need help choosing a scanner and software, we have both Macintosh and DOS
>systems. What we are attempting to do is scan multiple page documents
>into ascii text files.  The catch is we need to scan multiple pages 
>into ONE text file without having to cut and paste or merge documents,
>or feed one sheet and recognize one sheet at a time.
>
>Any help would be greatly appriciated.  Please respond either to this
>newsgroup or to popkin@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: UNIX: cal 9 1752
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:06:03 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor) writes:

>Not everyone's man pages are as descriptive, and you should not
>necessarily expect your man pages to correspond to others' man pages.
>The SunOS man page just says to "Try September 1752", and the Ultrix,
>AIX, and HP-UX man pages for "cal" don't say anything at all about
>this.  

This means that any of the above machines is not as good as a
Silicon Graphics ... :)

Samuel Ko - kko@sfu.ca
Xref: sparky comp.misc:2984 comp.unix.misc:3018 biz.misc:85
From: mike@pacsoft.com (Mike Stefanik)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.unix.misc,biz.misc
Subject: SAFEWARE, The Insurance Agency Inc.
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:40:05 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Pacific Software Group, Riverside, CA

We're looking for opinions on SAFEWARE, an insurance company that
specializes in computers.  Their policy covers accidents, theft,
water and fire damage and power surges.  The premium would cost
us about $130US per year with a $50US deductible on claims.  It
covers purchased software (including losses from viruses) as well
as computer hardware.

It seems like a suitable policy, but I was wondering if any of
you folk have had experiences (both good and bad) with SAFEWARE.
One concern is that they are located in Columbus, OH which is the
home of Nationwide Insurance -- a company that we have no desire
to do business with (principally because of some bad experiences
with Nationwide meeting their claim obligations.)  Is SAFEWARE
affiliated in any way with Nationwide?

Are there any other reputable companies that handle computer
insurance that anyone would care to recommend?

Please respond via e-mail and I'll post a summary.
-- 
Mike Stefanik  mike@pacsoft.com  ...!uunet!pacsoft!mike  (+1 714 681 2623)
Pacific Software Group, Riverside, CA
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: turneo@jec321.its.rpi.edu (Omar Turner)
Subject: Unix ???
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:12:43 GMT






I was wondering if any body out there knows if there is a program or something 
that converts .jpg images to .gif my school does not have a program that supports
.jpg images. Also is there a program that I can download that would help me
predict lottery numbers that I could download to use on unix or ms-dos?
                 e-mail me if you know 
                turneo@rpi.edu



Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: aq171@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Griffith)
Subject: Radio Shack Files to IBM/ASCII???
Reply-To: aq171@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Griffith)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16:18:13 GMT


A co-worker has an old radio shack TRS-80 or something like that.  It 
uses radio shack disks.  She is now in the process of getting an IBM
and is wondering if there is a program to convert from the radio shack
files to an ascii file so her IBM programs can read them.  I hope someone
can follow this.  She did not really have a whole lot of details on the
subject.  Thanks
-- 
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|   Mark Griffith              Bowling Green State University         |
|      aq171                 Go Browns, Tribe, Cavs and BG Falcons!   |
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Xref: sparky comp.misc:3054 comp.periphs:1052 comp.ivideodisc:143
From: bomr@erich.triumf.ca (Rod Nussbaumer)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.periphs,comp.ivideodisc
Subject: Re: Need information about CD-ROM based IC data
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:14:00 GMT
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul30.232641.15744@spectra.com>, johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson) writes...
> 
>Someone in my company has thousands of data books from many companies
>containing Integrated Circuit data specifications.
>These books need to be continually replaced with more current
>information.
> 
>The perfect solution would be an optical disk based subscription service
>similar to what many professions now have, such as lawyers and realtors.
>They get monthly updates with the current laws and homes for sale
>respectively shipped to them on a CD-ROM for a fixed monthly or yearly 
>fee.
> 
>Does anybody know of a source for that information for IC's?
Such a service does exist.  I think it's called CATs, or something like
that.  They advertise regularly in EDN and the like.  We checked this out
once, but the prices were too high for us.  There are a few problems, as well.
Like, since data sheets are at least partly graphical in content, the form
of the data is just a bunch of graphical images, which don't lend themselves
to database-like operations (searching, sorting, etc.).  Also, I believe they
were selling turnkey systems including proprietary hardware, which we weren't
really keen on.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Rod Nussbaumer, Programmer/Technologist       Bitnet: BOMR@TRIUMFER
  TRIUMF --- University of British Columbia,  Internet: bomr@erich.triumf.ca
  Vancouver, BC, Canada.                         Phone: (604)222-1047 ext 510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: popkin@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kenneth Popkin)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: scanner
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:30:16 GMT
Reply-To: popkin@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kenneth Popkin)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

We need help choosing a scanner and software, we have both Macintosh and DOS
systems. What we are attempting to do is scan multiple page documents
into ascii text files.  The catch is we need to scan multiple pages 
into ONE text file without having to cut and paste or merge documents,
or feed one sheet and recognize one sheet at a time.

Any help would be greatly appriciated.  Please respond either to this
newsgroup or to popkin@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: WAKEMAN@MSU
Subject: mag tape cleaner
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 31 Jul 1992 13:38:07 EDT

Anybody know where we can get a mag tape cleaner. Our Carlisle (Graham Magnetic
) went on fritz and may be too expensive to fix, especially considering that
round mag tapes are becomming outmoded in favot of DATs, etc. (are there
cleaners for those?)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Which Sound Board - Bad times with Creative Labs
From: djlewis@ualr.edu
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:39:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.misc
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <2492@uswnvg.uswnvg.com>, cjackso@uswnvg.com (Clay Jackson) writes:
> I'm getting conflicting stories about 'em and so thought I'd come here
> to the font of all wisdom.  Here's what I want/need:
> 
> I have a Sony CD-ROM drive. I'd LIKE the board to be able to control
> the drive (so that I don't have to waste a slot on the Sony SCSI 
> controller), but, if it won't, I'd like at least some assurance that
> it will WORK (ie at least perform it's audio functions without 
> interference).  
> 
> I also would like to understand (I don't now) how the CD audio is handled - 
> I currently have the output of my CD going to a boom box.  It's my
> understanding that the CD-Audio out would plug into the back of the card,
> and then the card would mix that audio with the computer speaker (or
> what used to be the computer speaker) audio and then the whole mess would
> get sent out the CARDs audio out line.  Is this basically what happens?
> 
> One of the reasons I'm asking here is that NO ONE, including EggHead,
> Computer City AND Creative Labs can give me straight answers.  I've heard:
> 
> Yes, it will all work as you expect out of the box (EggHead salesslime #1)
> No, it's not compatible at ALL (EggHead saleslime #2 AND Creative Labs)
> Yes, it will work but you need cables (EggHead salesslime #3, Computer
> 				       City salesslime).
> It will work, but you need to disable the SoundBlaster SCSI port, and
> I can't tell you how to do that (Creative Labs)
> 
> Ain't "open systems" grand......
> 
> BTW - if anyone has a phone # for Pro Audio I'd appreciate it - the
> slime thay answered the phone at Creative Labs was downright NASTY,
> and so I think if everything else is equal, I'll go w/ Pro Audio.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> -- 
> Clay Jackson - N7QNM
> US WEST NewVector Group Inc
> Bellevue, WA
> uunet!uswnvg!cjackso
	Well, the MediaVision ProAudio Spectrum board is a winner with me. It
has a ISO-9660 std SCSI interface. Mine came with a SONY CDU-541 drive. Works 
well except that it is the 8-bit PCM card.
	The new 16-bit PAS board has even greater functionaltiy. A full speed
SCSI port (now hard drives can be hung on it as well)
Better stereo FM synthesis (more voices)
They suggest total compatibility with ADLIB, Soundblasters digital voice
as well as the new and improved 16-bit stereo record /playback up to 44.1khz.
This board has a built-in 5channel stereo mixer. The CD-ROM plugs in internally
to a 4pin connector.
	Equalizer built-in. etc. . ..

Don Lewis
djlewis@ualr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:22:43 EDT
From: Chih-Peng hung <hung@mermaid.cs.columbia.edu>
Subject: devguide program


Hi, is there anybody knows where to get the latest version of
Devguide utility ? That's a utility which can desgin the interface
you want on screen and save it to a GIL file.

Please send me email if you know where to ftp it. Thanks !

C.P.Hung
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: ph3@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Hamilton (phys 306))
Subject: Fun Game: ID this Osbourne from description!
Summary: I found an old Osbourne, what type is it?
Keywords: Osbourne, lunchbox, portable
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:23:22 GMT

OK, the university here has a Surplus Equipment Recycling Facility (SERF) which
sells the crap that the university inevitably accumulates. Today, I found an
old Osbourne among the stuff, and I'm wondering if anyone can ID ir from its
description.

General: No model number. Looks a bit like a modern "lunchbox" style computer.
Panels remove to reveal power switch, fuse, receptacle for power cord, air 
flow vents, several dates indicating that this beast was likely sold circa
1985. Keyboard removes by two latches to reveal...

Front panel: Two full height disk drives, one on each side of a 3.5" monitor.
One contrast knob, one brightness knob. Two bays which look like they might
take slim line drives (one under each of the full height babies). One "modem"
port, one RS232 port, one IEEE 488 port, one keyboard port, one bit of plastic
that says "do not remove when power on", one round button, one sign indicating
that there are no user servicable parts.

Case: Cream, has "Osbourne" down one side in silver paint. Handle on back
panel.

If you know what this computer is, and what you think it's worth, please mail
me or post. 


bye.
From: jrauser@epx.cis.umn.edu (Johnny R.)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Etymology
Keywords: !, bang
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:46:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota


Hello Folks,

One of my textbooks contains many interesting footnotes which
describe the history of computer science, particularly the
etymology of a great deal of jargon.  

It does not however give the etymology of the word "bang", which is
often used to mean the exclamation point symbol "!".

Does anybody out there know who coined this term and for what reason
they did so?

Thanks,

John Rauser

-- 
John Rauser
jrauser@epx.cis.umn.edu
From: chubbard@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Charles William Hubbard)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Mitsubishi Color Video Printer Programming Problem
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:54:02 GMT
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities, Richland

I am having trouble programming for a Mitsubishi CP210U color video
copier and I was hoping someone here could help me out.  I want to be
able to send image data directly to the CP210U through its Centronics
parallel interface.  So far we have had only limited success.  I can get
a GIF image out that doesn't look bad but the aspect ratio is screwed up
and it's not clear to me how to select an image resolution.  So far all
my printing has been of 640x525 images because that's the only res that
doesn't bomb on me!  (I usually get a timing error (E0) whatever that
means).

I have the Mitsubishi operation manual but it is a poor translation from
the Japanese and is filled with typos and inconsistancies to boot -
worthless.  I've called a dozen different Mitsubishi numbers but
I either get directed to another department or have to leave a voice
mail message that never gets heard by anyone.

Do any of you have any experience with this printer?  Specifically, what
is the significance of the timing parameters (H-SIZ, H-RES, V-LIN, etc)
and how can I calculate them to get out images at resolutions and aspect
ratios of my choosing?  The manual really doesn't explain the meaning or
importance of these constants at all.  Any information on the theory of
operation of the copier or a little C source code would be greatly
appreciated.

Please leave me e-mail at chubbard@beta.tricity.wsu.edu as I don't
normally get a chance to read this newsgroup.

Thanks in advance,
Charlie Hubbard
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: miked@wixer.cactus.org (mike.daugherty)
Subject: Re: Problem with SDLC compatibility
Keywords: SDLC mainframe compatible system/36
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 04:31:54 GMT

In article <3948@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> nording@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>
>I have an old Synchronous Data Link Control Communications Adapter
>I recently replaced a shaky modem with the Intel SatisFAXion 200

<stuff deleted>

>card.  Now this card seems to be incompatible with the SDLC Card.
>
>I try every possible I/O port address, and still the diagnostic
>program for the SDLC card fails.  Is there something about the
>SDLC Card that it hogs up an entire range of I/O port addresses?
< more stuff deleted >>
>-- Arno Nording

Are you using the Sealevel SCC card with a Z8530 or intel 82530
SCC chip? Sorry to say I don't necessarily have your answers for
you. But, I am currently writing device drivers for this board and
have run into some strange problems. 

Yes you may be having problems with multiple ports or you might
possibly want to check what IRQ line your peripherals are using.
This chip uses up 5 consecutive I/O ports for the two channels and
modem control.  I have found the diagnostic software can't handle 
my bus mouse using IRQ5 when all Ints on the card disabled!

If by some chance you learn more about this device I'd appreciate 
hearing about it.




-- 
Mike Daugherty		| Voice: (512) 832-9966
PLS Austin, TX		| Fax: (512) 832-8410
miked@wixer.cactus.org	| #include <std_discaimer.h>
From: donald@anacapa.NCEL.Navy.Mil (Donald Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: turing machine
Keywords: turing
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:59:00 GMT
Organization: Naval Civil Engineering Lab, Port Hueneme

Hello,

Does anyone reading this posting have information on how
a turing machine performs arithmetic calculations?  I am
particularly interested in the state table necessary for
it to perform multiplication.  If you have this information,
could you please respond to me at:
		donald@anacapa.ncel.navy.mil
Thank You.
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sources.wanted,alt.sources.wanted,news.answers