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From: walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Walk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Cyrix "486" cpu really compatible ?
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:09:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

charles@gremlin.muug.mb.ca (Charles) writes:
>Could you elaborate on this?  It is my understanding that the 486 only has
>5-6 more instructions than the 386, most of those dealing with cache
>manipulation.  What would NeXTstep be doing that wouldn't run on this
>chip?  Or at the minimal, require extremely small code changes?  (Assuming
>the Cyrix is 100% 386 compatible of course).

Nextstep needs the byte order switch instruction.  The 386 can do this
with multiple instructions, but it would be too slow to be useful.


					Todd Walk
					walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Re: New IBM PS/Valuepoint
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:18:20 GMT


>Is it any wonder that there is Tseng SVGA seamless windows support in
>OS/2?  It's not nearly as nice as the XGA support, though :-)

What makes you say this?  I use a PS/2 model 90 with XGA at work, and a
486/50 with EISA Orchid PDiis at home, both running OS/2 + SP.  At work,
we're running 1024x768x256 XGA, and at home I'm running 1024x768x256 Tseng.
Both look *exactly* the same, ACT exactly the same, and feel exactly the
same.  What makes you say the XGA is better??  The pallette is the same,
the fonts are the same, everything except the NAME is the same!

Actually, let me correct myself...MY system is nicer with the Tseng since
I have a 17" monitor 8)

The new Tseng drivers are GREAT.  I have been *extremely* pleased with them.
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From: fluet@ee.ualberta.ca (Kevin Blaine Fluet)
Subject: Telepath setup (was Gateway experience)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:14:59 GMT

Since a number of people have requested the info that I received from
Gateway Tech support with regard to Telepath settings, etc.  I will post
it here:

The Problem:  I was having problems staying connected to the UofA's bank
of plain vanilla 9600's, with connections usually disconnecting after an
hour or so of download time (using Zmodem) from the first day I got my
machine.  Sometimes while trying to send commands to the modem, the
machine would lock up and the reset button would have to be pressed
(Ctrl-Alt-Del didn't work).  On the third day of using the modem, it went
completely dead. 

The Solution:  We discovered that the IRQ for COM1 (the telepath) wasn't
set to 5 as it should have been and this seemed to solve the problem of my
dead modem.  Since I was talking to the tech on my only phone line, we
couldn't test to see if this solved the connection problems, so he told me
a number of setup strings to try to get the connection to work: 

	ATN0S37=11&Q6&K0%C0  for 14400

replace the 11 with 	9 for 9600
			8 for 4800
			6 for 2400
			5 for 1200

The &Q6&K0%C0 part disables error correction, compression, etc.  I don't
need this stuff because I only call the afore mentioned 9600's. 

Apparently (I guess since the Telepath doesn't have the buffered serial
UART) screen savers often interfere with connections, and should be
turned off. 

He also suggested that if the telephone line connections weren't of very
good quality, there would be problems at high baud rates.  

This is all I know, hope it helps.  I haven't had a problem since the IRQ
was set to 5.

-----------------------
Kevin Fluet
fluet@ee.ualberta.ca
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From: rg9538@ehsn2.cen.uiuc.edu (Ronald E Garnett)
Subject: Speedstar 24x
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:52:38 GMT


I bought one a few weeks ago to replace my old speedstar+ card.  The new card seems to have a few problems.  I want to see iif these are normal (known) problems or not.

First, in 1024x768x256 mode, I get stray pixel problems fairly often.  SMall groups
of pixels that don't match the background.  They change when I somehow force the
screen to do a rewrite.  (I am speaking of Win 3.1 in this part)



Second, in DOS, I get stray characters left in the left margin of the screen.  They 
replace the leftmosst character with a |, but the actual character is still there.
Only the display of the character is hosed.



Anyone have similar problems?




Note:  486-33, 12 MHz ISA bus, Nanao 9070U monito

Ron Garnett

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Adaptec 1542B Hanging Under Windows
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:47:06 GMT

Has anyone else experienced a problem with the Adaptec 1542B hanging
under Windows?  I've checked for DMA and IRQ conflicts, and there just
aren't any.  The board works fine when I first boot up, but as soon as I
get into Windows, and after I leave Windows, any attempt to access the
SCSI bus hangs the software that attempts it.

I boot from an IDE card, and I disabled the Adaptec's BIOS.  In
addition, I excluded the BIOS in both EMM386 and using the EMMExclude
command in SYSTEM.INI (just to absolutely rule out the possibility that
Windows was using a memory address that the BIOS wanted available for
its own use).

Any theories on possible causes for this problem?

Thanks,
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
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From: matess@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Eliza Strickler)
Subject: EISA Local bus? Motherboard suggestions?
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:28:17 GMT

Is there an VESA EISA local bus?  If not, why not? 

When people say that they have a motherboard which is upgradable
to a P5, do they only mean speed or will the bus be upgradable 
to 64 bits?

I am about to peice together a 486.  I am looking for people who 
have done the same thing to find out what motherboard 
and other components they suggest or have had experience with.

Any input apprecaited,
	Elizabeth
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From: rky57514@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tall Cool One )
Subject: Re: Gateway experience (positive to date!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:49:21 GMT

hb@wavefront.wti.com (H.B. Siegel) writes:

>Since there has been both positive and negative stuff flowing
>through the net about Gateway, I thought I'd my two bits and
>state:

>1) I ordered a 486-66V (isa) with a 17" Nanao 550i & Telepath, Sept 21st.
>	It arrived October 21st.  I changed my mind about getting a tower case,
>	while the system was in Q/A.  They caught it and updated me to a tower
>	case.  I also added a CD-ROM to my order at the last minute, which
>	they didn't catch.  (Just as well - I'm still investigating that
>	technology).
>2) System arrived intact, ready-to-run, right out the box.
>	Didn't even need to reseat the cards.
>3) Systems has performed reliably for 3 weeks now (since arrival)
>	a) Very occasional extraneously line on the display (due to early
>	video drivers?  
> b) One mysterious lockup during a game.
> c) I can't get 1280x1024x16 video to work.  It is possible, isn't it?
>4) Telepath modem works as advertised 
>	(at least up to 12k baud, I haven't gotten 14.4k to work yet).
>5) Tech support on the modem wasn't too helpful.

>		H.B.



I've had a Gateway 486-33 for a little under a year now, with no problems except
a few lockups caused by some really old software.  I recieved the system in the
time they told me, and it was ready to run right out of the box.  Besides the
wait, I haven't had a problem with customer service, either.. I've ordered more
memory and the Windows 3.1 upgrade, both which arrived in a little over a week.
I'm satisfied with Gateway's service and more than happy with my Gateway    
system..



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From: buccim@newton.hartwick.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: WANTED LAPTOPS
Date: 15 Nov 92 13:08:14 -0500
Organization: HARTWICK COLLEGE

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON LAPTOPS, PARTICULARLY 386/25'S.  I AM
CONSIDERING REFURBISHED UNITS, OR POSSIBLY THE AST PREMIUM EXEC 25, IT RETAILS
FOR AROUND A GRAND.  WRITE ME AT BUCCIM@HARTWICK.EDU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS,
ADVICE, PRICES, OR SUPPLIERS.

MIKE
BUCCIM@HARTWICK.EDU















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From: jbc@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu (CASSEL J BRIAN)
Subject: Re: "p24t" upgrades
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: upgrade, P5, P24t, Zeos
Organization: Graduate School and University Center, CUNY, New York
Date: 22 Nov 1992 13:30 EST  

In article <360@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov>, hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (stockman harlan w) writes...
>Howdy--
> 
>I'm considering getting a new 486 DX2/66, but I would like to be able to 
>upgrade to the "P24t" -- the 32-bit bus version of the P5. 
> 
>Several companies (e.g., Zeos; possibly Northgate, Hyundai) offer 486's with 
>ZIF sockets; at least with Zeos, the ZIF supposedly has an extra row of holes 
>for the newer, larger P24t chip. 
> 
>Is this upgrade route just a marketing ploy? Has Intel given Zeos and others 
>enough info to ensure that the P24t will actually function in the ZIF ... 
>with/without major BIOS upgrades? Last year Zeos offered motherboards with 
>"upgradable" processor modules, even for 486/33 systems. I now doubt they even 
>offer a 486DX2/66 upgrade module. 
> 
>Opinions -- informed, rational or otherwise -- are welcomed.

I sent email to Ken Germann at Zeos asking specifically if there was
any *guarantee* from Zeos about the compatibility of the p24t with 
the zeos motherboard / socket and his reply was:

  "Zeos is advertising it. We have to support it. The p24t specs 
   haven't been made public yet."

As you can see, no guarantee.  So do you go with Zeos now, or wait
for others (Dell, Gateway, etc.) to come up with similar options 
several months from now?  

And by the way, this is the best upgrade option I've seen to date,
since it takes me from a 32-bit machine to a 64-bit machine 
without me choking on the original investment... but what are we 
going to do with our 64-bit processors when we have them?  Run 
our 16- and 32-bit software really, really fast??

Brian Cassel
jbc@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
======================== disclaimed as my own opinions.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: shim@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sam Shim)
Subject: Re: Anyone know of a way to cold boot off second floppy drive?
Keywords: boot
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:46:15 GMT

In article <digdug.722191406@pv7b02.vincent.iastate.edu> digdug@iastate.edu (Doug V Tran) writes:
>Else you can use the msdos command 'assign'

Assign is a DOS command, so you can't use assign to boot off of the B: floppy
since the computer has already booted up with DOS.

-Sam-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell)
Subject: Re: S3 VGA coprocessors: What is the difference between 911/924/928 ?
	<IISAKKIL.92Nov20171723@lk-hp-21.hut.fi>
	<1992Nov21.000413.4154@cti-software.nl>
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:41:32 GMT

>   >Has anyone ever wondered if someone in the S3 design team is a Porsche
>   >freak :-)
>
>   I'm told there's also an S3 model 801. A Porsche one as well ?

Maybe a BMW ....

- Thomas

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From: vagle@hsr.no (James Bond)
Subject: PC to TV
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:31:14 GMT

Can anybody tell me a cheep way to get my PC screen over to
a TV. I want to record the screen on VCR.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: dpp@cray.com (David Peterschmidt)
Subject: Re: NANAO 9070U sensitive to power fluctuation
Reply-To: dpp@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:45:20 CST

In article Lry@news.cso.uiuc.edu, rg9538@ehsn2.cen.uiuc.edu (Ronald E Garnett) writes:
>
>
>Another problem I've found....curoius as to other peoiples experience...
>
>
>The problem is with my Nanao 9070U monitor.  It usually has a fairly crisp display,
>but lately I've noticed quite a bit of flicker and wavering of the screen.  At first
>I though that the monitor was going to monitor heaven, but then I thought to measure 
>the input power levels.  
>
>What I discovered is that the input power to my apartment varies between around 112 V
>and 120V, depending on what other people have turned on, refrigerators, etc.  This
>is normal, but the Nanao problem follows the voltage. When the voltage drops much below120 V, the flicering starts.  Around 112 it gets really annoying, as the screen is     wavering as much as an1/8 of an inch.  For a $1000 monitor, this is quite disturbing!
>
>
>Anyone have any insight or similar experience?
>
>
>
>Ron Garnett,
>University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
>


I've had a similar problem with my monitor (Mitsubishi Diamond Pro
17).  The screen bobs up and down occasionally about 1/16 inch and I
don't know what causes it.  It could well be the same problem you're
seeing.  If it is the incoming voltage that causes it, I suppose a UPS 
could be one solution, but I sure don't want to have to buy one.  Is 
there a cheaper alternative?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jre@zeos.com (Jim Erickson)
Subject: Re: "p24t" upgrades
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:50:58 GMT
Keywords: upgrade, P5, P24t, Zeos

In article <22NOV199213305567@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu> jbc@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu (CASSEL J BRIAN) writes:
>In article <360@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov>, hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (stockman harlan w) writes...
>>Howdy--
>> 
>>I'm considering getting a new 486 DX2/66, but I would like to be able to 
>>upgrade to the "P24t" -- the 32-bit bus version of the P5. 
>> 
>>Several companies (e.g., Zeos; possibly Northgate, Hyundai) offer 486's with 
>>ZIF sockets; at least with Zeos, the ZIF supposedly has an extra row of holes 
>>for the newer, larger P24t chip. 
>> 
>>Is this upgrade route just a marketing ploy? Has Intel given Zeos and others 
>>enough info to ensure that the P24t will actually function in the ZIF ... 
>>with/without major BIOS upgrades? Last year Zeos offered motherboards with 
>>"upgradable" processor modules, even for 486/33 systems. I now doubt they even 
>>offer a 486DX2/66 upgrade module. 
>> 
>>Opinions -- informed, rational or otherwise -- are welcomed.
>
>I sent email to Ken Germann at Zeos asking specifically if there was
>any *guarantee* from Zeos about the compatibility of the p24t with 
>the zeos motherboard / socket and his reply was:
>
>  "Zeos is advertising it. We have to support it. The p24t specs 
>   haven't been made public yet."

I would like to add something to Ken's statement. While we cannot comment on
future products etc., the ZIF socket interface we use is designed by Intel
themselves. So, while the P24T specs have not yet been released by Intel,
they presumably know what they are.

---JRE---



>
>As you can see, no guarantee.  So do you go with Zeos now, or wait
>for others (Dell, Gateway, etc.) to come up with similar options 
>several months from now?  
>
>And by the way, this is the best upgrade option I've seen to date,
>since it takes me from a 32-bit machine to a 64-bit machine 
>without me choking on the original investment... but what are we 
>going to do with our 64-bit processors when we have them?  Run 
>our 16- and 32-bit software really, really fast??
>
>Brian Cassel
>jbc@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
>======================== disclaimed as my own opinions.
>


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From: ternlund@CS.ColoState.EDU (John Ternlund)
Subject: TapeDrives-reliability
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:39:45 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

Has anyone been using a tape backup drive with their PC?  Look at this-

  I bought some pre-formatted DC2120 tapes with the ximat format.
(120MB from "3M").  I assumed the data I was backing up onto them with Central
Point Backup was reliable. I backed up about 30 MB onto several of these tapes
with a new Summit Express 250 Drive.  This is a lot like the C.M.S. Jumbo 250
tape drive.  Anyhow, when restoring the data and using "compare" with
Central Point Backup, I get about 5-6 files that are bad on one tape
and 2-3 files that are bad on another, etc...  This is not reliable!
Please note, I did not format the tapes on my drive.  According to the 
documentation pre-formatted tapes should work fine (QIC-80).

  However, *UNLESS* I format the tapes on this drive, (which takes about 2hrs),
I get lots of mismatches in the data when it's restored or compared with the
original data. (ie: the data is corrupted)  My guess is -- the tape head is 
mis-aligned or something like this.  Did I get a bad drive?  Is this normal
to have to format a formatted tape on an individual drive for reliability?
Does anyone out there use pre-formatted tapes, and have found them reliable?
<or> Does everyone format the tape on their particular drive? I thought these
tape backup drives were suppose to be very reliable.  So far, the tape drive
has been a horrible nightmare.  I have been testing and testing, and it
appears the problem is not my machine, or my DOS environment *BUT* that the
tapes need to be formatted on this drive first!!  Any opinions?

All opinions expressed or otherwise implied are my own.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
John Ternlund              Software Engineer, Integrated Decision Support,
                                               Colorado State University
Internet: ternlund@mozart.cs.colostate.edu
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From: hmoffatt@nyx.cs.du.edu (Hamish Moffatt)
Subject: Western Digital EtherCard PLUS TP problems
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 10:39:43 GMT


I have just received second hand but unopened two Western Digital Twisted
Pair Ethernet cards. Both came with Diagnostics and drivers, one version
1.07, one 1.06. The cards are WD8003WT models.

I put one in my XT and one in my AT (main machine). The XT card was left
at the default 280h / IRQ3 settings. The AT card was moved to IRQ5 since
IRQ3 is used by COM2/4, but left at 280h. I have also obtained the newer
SMC Diagnostics version 4.00 (I think). Both machines pass thr basic card
test - but they cannot communicate with initiate/respond to test messages.
They cannot find each other (initiate cannot find the responder).
There is a green light on the back of each card which never goes on. The
cards are connected with the supplied RJ-45 cable (I've tried the cable
that came with each card but no change). Ideas, anyone?

Checkit 3.0 says the IRQs used by each card belong to "CHECKIT".
Nothing else lives on those IRQs or addresses.

Suggestions, help, please. Please mail to hamish@cloud.apana.org.au or
hmoffatt@nyx.cs.du.edu. Or in Melbourne, Australia you can call me on
803-1326 during reasonable hours, though I won't be home Wed/Thu/Fri
during BH.

Thanks in advance.

Hamish Moffatt
hamish@cloud.apana.org.au
From: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: BOCA 14.4K Modem
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:21:39 GMT
Reply-To: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <BxyBn0.I8o@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umkirk07@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kirk) writes:
>I have a BOCA v.32bis 14.4K internal modem.  I was curious whether it had
>the UART 16550 Chip in it.  Someone told me that it didn't, but judging
>from the performance, it doesn't seem to effect it.

The early BOCA 14.4K modems came with a 16540 UART (only 1 byte buffer), not a
16550.

I do believe that Boca has a program for upgrading the old 16540 UARTs.
If your UART is socketed, you can just buy one and plug it in (they are pin
compatible).

>
>The modem does work flawlessly (with the exception of the rare CRC error)
>and I would recomment it as a low cost 14.4K modem (Some group purchases
>on misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone have found a price of 
>only  $219.00 plus $7 shipping.  That is amazing!

From your description of CRC errors on transfers, you may have the 16540 and
not the 16550.  (or you may have the 16550 but your communication program may
not be 16550 aware and thus is not turning on the 16 byte buffer).  

If you have Windows, there is a little dos program in the windows directory
called MSD (microsoft system diagnostics).  It's pretty simple, just shows what
hardware you have installed.  But it DOES detect and report what UARTs are on
the various serial ports.

Alex

>
>Anyways, if anyone knows which UART the BOCA modem has, please reply.
>(I looked all through the manual, but no mention of anything..)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dale Kirk
>umkirk07@ccu.umanitoba.ca
>