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From: neeri@iis.ethz.ch (Matthias Neeracher)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:11:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Integrated Systems Laboratory, ETH, Zurich

Date: 25 Aug 92 17:03:29 GMT
Message-Id: <NEERI.92Aug25180329@iis.ethz.ch>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors

In article <id.Q4NS.1SE@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>The Mac GUI is a moderately good one. It used to be quite good (though not up
>to the quality of the Star), but it's grown a *lot* of chrome in the past 6 or
>so years.

Gee, if even *Amiga* users start complaining about chrome, maybe it's time for
Apple to cut back :-)

Matthias

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From: rmbult01@orion.spd.louisville.edu (Robert M. Bultman)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X terminal PC's over modems
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:29:15 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Louisville

Date: 30 Aug 92 01:47:00 GMT
Message-Id: <rmbult01.715139220@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Problem:  Need to access X client software over the phone lines.

Will one of the PC-based X server programs allow me to do this?
Can I run client software at home from my PC, calling the UNIX
system over the phone lines?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

Rob
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From: allister@gphs.vuw.ac.nz (Allister J. Gorman)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Running X11R5 on a two headed Sun IPX
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:48:15 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Institute of Geophysics, Victoria University of Wellington, NZ

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:01:33 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug26.060133.4786@rata.vuw.ac.nz>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

We have a two headed Sun Sparc IPX and we are trying to get X11R5 running on
both displays (/dev/cgsix0 and /dev/cgsix1).  We can get an X daemon running
on /dev/cgsix0 with our default setup, but cannot find what options we need to
use to run an X daemon on both screens.

E-mail replies would be preferred as I don't usually read this group.

Thanks in Advance,
Allister J. Gorman, <allister@gphs.vuw.ac.nz>
Part-time SysAdmin, Institute of Geophysics, Victoria University of Wellington,
Wellington, New Zealand.
From: nariani@zen.cc.nd.edu (Sunil Nariani)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: VISIX Phone no.
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:21:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

Date: 25 Aug 92 22:06:52 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug25.220652.2266@news.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Can someone send me the phone number/address/email of
a company called VISIX that makes the GUI Builder
called GALAXY.

Thank you.
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From: yandros@athena.mit.edu (Chad Phillip Brown)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:48:58 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: /mit/yandros/.organizations

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:34:53 GMT
Message-Id: <YANDROS.92Aug30173448@j-g-ballard.MIT.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors


  From: lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin)
> I think the difference is that the OPEN LOOK UI was designed.  Very
> carefully.  By people with experience.  And _then_ implemented.  Motif
> was implemented without any real specification, as I understand it,
> and it shows.

Not that I'm registering a preference but it's my understanding that
the Motif UI was designed pretty carefully to comply with things like
IBM's CUA, etc.

Personally, I despise OpenLook, just by taste, and find Motif to be
too underpowered, overburdened, and undercustomizable to be useable on
a real machine (maybe my desktop Alpha-connection machine will solve
this ;-).  NeXTStep is very pretty, and has a nice fel, but isn't
customizable enough; and System 7 is similar.  Never used NeWS.  All
in all, I have to agree with you here:


> I don't think _any_ of them are at the point at which I'd say `If
> computer development stopped here it'd be OK'.

although there's always GWM. :-)

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From: sinkwitz@ifi.unizh.ch (Rainer Sinkwitz)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Choosing colors  for X11 - a palette ?
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:08:37 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 08:09:09 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep1.080909.933@ifi.unizh.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps


In article <17m0c4INN977@agate.berkeley.edu>, desouza@asmara.berkeley.edu (Paulo de Souza) writes:
> I seen on some DEC and IBM machines a palette that lets you move a
> stick around and choose a color giving you (in another part of the
> window) the combo of Red-Green-Blue that you need to match that
> color.
> 
> Does anybody knows if such a thing is available for X11 (for example
> on a Sparc Station) ? And where one could find it ?
> 
> Paulo Ney                                desouza@math.berkeley.edu
On Sun's you have readily available the "props" program normaly 
as "Properties" on the root menu.
It's also available as soure in the XView distribution.

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From: greg@athena.cs.uga.edu (Greg Whitlock)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: xarchie/xgopher compiling problems
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:40:13 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Date: 1 Sep 92 19:59:16 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep1.195916.2151@athena.cs.uga.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm trying to compile xarchie and xgopher on a Sun4 (w/4.1.1) and both
packages compile fine until the following error:

Undefined
_dlsym
_dlopen
_dlclose

I know something is amiss and was curious if anyone else has experienced
this problem.  We've just gotten X running so it could easily be something
is misplaced but I don't know what.

I would appreciate any suggestions.  Thanks.

-greg
 (greg@athena.cs.uga.edu)
From: joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: ANNOUNCING: tkWWW 0.3 Alpha
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:26:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:23:18 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug30.232318.13727@athena.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl,alt.hypertext,comp.windows.x,comp.lang.sgml


ANNOUNCING:
tkWWW 0.3 Alpha
by Joseph Wang (joe@athena.mit.edu)

A Tk interface to World Wide Web (ALPHA TEST)

WHAT IS IT?
-----------
World Wide Web (WWW) is a hypertext project which seeks to build a
world wide network of hypertext links.  There are several different
browsers for this system including a simple tty interface.  For a 
demos of the terminal browsers for WWW, telnet to the following sites:

 telnet info.cern.ch or telnet 128.141.201.74 (SWISS)
 telnet eies2.njit.edu or telnet 128.235.1.43 (USA [NJ])
 telnet vms.huji.ac.il or telnet 128.139.4.3  (ISRAEL)
 telnet info.funet.fi or telnet 128.214.6.100 (FINLAND)

 and login as "www"

Tk is an interpreted toolkit which allows one to build X11 applications
quickly and easily.

tkWWW is a Tk interface to (WWW), which lets you send embedded buttons,
scrollbars, etc in hypertext written for WWW.

IMPROVEMENTS SINCE 0.2
----------------------
Increased speed
Many bug fixes

WHERE IS IT?
------------
export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/tkWWW-0.3.tar.Z
barkley.berkeley.edu:
info.cern.ch:

MAILING LIST
------------
The mailing list "tk-www@athena.mit.edu" exists for discussion of tk-www.
To subscribe send e-mail to "tk-www-request@athena.mit.edu"

WHAT DO I NEED TO INSTALL IT?
-----------------------------
In order to install tkWWW you will need

   The code for the WWW line-mode browser. (anon ftp from info.cern.ch)
   Libraries for tk and tcl (I'm using tk2.1 and tcl6.3)

   A wish intepreter which contains the Hyper and XYGraph widgets

To install this program, unpack the WWW line-mode browser source and 
cd to the directory WWW.  Unpack the tkWWW tar file.
From: ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu (Lisa Dawes)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Accellerated X
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:09:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 10:21:02 CDT
Message-Id: <9208251521.AA24967@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu>

This isnt a directly related X question but since I can only read the news,
not post to it,(kind of defeats the purpose of having news if you ask me),
I am posting this here in hopes that some kind soul will answer it or maybe
cross-post it to comp.graphics.

My problem is I'm writing an integrated X/PHIGS application. I wish to utilize
the graphic accellerators available on the Sun GX frame buffers.  However,
my display must be sent to another frame buffer plugged into the Sbus slot
of my Sun (for output to an LCD panel which the GX fb wont drive).

My question is, can I still utilize the graphic accelleration provided with
the GX frame buffer without directly utilizing the display of that frame buffer.

Another related question:
Are there frame buffers/graphic accellerators available for a Sun Sparc which
have the capability of driving various monitors (i.e VGA and up) and which will
plug into an Sbus slot.
I know of a card which does half the job (Vigra frame buffer), but this board
has no graphic accellerators.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tim
From: worthen@nosc.mil (Richard H. Worthen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: PEX & X primitives in same window
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:32:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA

Date: 26 Aug 92 03:40:47 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug26.034047.9541@nosc.mil>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.pex,comp.windows.x


What are the restrictions (if any) and side effects of drawing to a window 
or pixmap via PEX commands (including instantiating a PHIGS workstation, 
traversing structures, etc.) then using XGetImage/XPutImage or drawing into 
this same window or pixmap using core X commands/primitives?

thanks in advance,

Rick Worthen, NRaD, Code 414, worthen@nosc.navy.mil
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: processing for X audio-files
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:15:29 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 08:33:10 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug28.083310.6967@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <9208181735.AA28461@fee.unicamp.br>, jara@fee.unicamp.br (Marcelo Arturo Jara Perez) writes:

(It would make your postings significantly more readable if you would
break your lines, preferably shortly before 80 characters.  Lines
hundreds of characters long do impair readability.)

> I would appreciate it if any of you could tell me where I can get
> some information or software for processing X audio files (*.au).

X does not support audio in any real way; the only audio interface the
core protocol defines is the one XBell() uses: a simple beep.[%]
"X audio files" is, as far as I can tell, a term without a referent.

> e.g. filters, equalizers, effects, etc. compatible with X Audio Tool
> V3.  My environment is a SPARCstation 2 running SUN-OS 4.1.2, and
> OpenWindows r3.

*Sun* audio files, then.  (I don't know of anything like what you're
after.)

[%] Given hardware with fully functional audio output facilities, a
    server could implement the loudness, pitch, and duration change
    request and allow a client to do primitive single-voiced music with
    rapid ringing of very short bells of changing pitches.  I know of
    no server that goes this far, nor any client software to take
    advantage of the possibility.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: mz@isi.com (Michael Zheng)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: FAQ for this group
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:34:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 10:38:13 PDT
Message-Id: <9208251738.AA04387@happy>

vinay@cs.toronto.edu ("Vinay K. Chaudhri") asked about the
FAQ for this group the other day.  Since I am new to this
group, I have the same question.
From: tim@xvt.com (Tim Beres)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: OPEN INTERFACE ?
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:00:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: XVT Software Inc.

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:52:41 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug31.185241.6126@xvt.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x


In article <5s3eyd2@Unify.Com> grp@Unify.com (Greg Pasquariello) writes:
>In article <wx3ewi4@Unify.Com> you write:
>> 
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but XVT is based upon the intrinsics (at least in
>> the X world), right?  If that is the case, then it is NOT one of the toolkits
>> that I mentioned above.
>> 
>I'm gonna shoot myself.  I will qualify the above by saying that they
>are the only two that remove dependence upon the intrinsics and ALSO 
>work on MS-Windows, etc.
>
>Sorry Warner!
>
>Greg Pasquariello   	grp@unify.com 	        Sometimes you're the windshield

Ye gods.  I think my last followup I sait "good comments, Greg".
Perhaps I meant Warner.  Pass the gun this way when your done.

But... Other toolkits (XVT included) DO remove you from dependence on
Xt and work under Windows, et al.  XVT may be coded on Xt, but
as an application programmer, you don't need to care 99% of the time.

Tim (I think I'm still me anyway).


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I do not speak for XVT Software Inc.
From: chris@ods.com (Chris Atkins)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Color icons
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:01:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.

Date: 28 Aug 92 15:40:48 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug28.154048.16432@ods.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Jeff Riegel (riegel@almaden.ibm.com) wrote:
: 
:   I've created several color pixmaps, and I was wondering how I can create
: icons for them in Xlib (X11R4).  The icon_pixmap field of WMHints doesn't
: seem to work, since some window managers (e.g. twm) only copy one bit plane of
: the pixmap to the icon.  Is there a way to create an icon manually (i.e.
: an independent icon, not necessarily created by iconifying a window) and
: then copy the pixmap to it?  I've been using a window but I don't want all
: the window manager gadgets.  Should I just override the window manager and
: write all the routines to handle move, expose, etc. events manually?
: 
: -Jeff Riegel
: riegel@almaden.ibm.com
From: deveau@oceanroutes.ns.ca ("Terry J. Deveau")
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:02:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Oceanroutes Canada Inc.

Message-Id: <9209031323.AA13412@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 10:23:03 ADT
Phone: (902) 468-3007, FAX: (902) 468-3009
Mailer: Elm [revision: 64.9]

Tina Klein <tina@csi.on.ca> writes:
> 
> Keep the coffee on the right and the mouse on the left and you'll never have a 
> space problem.
> 
> I have a corner workstation-desk-thing.  Mouse, keyboard, coffee.
> 
> Manuals on the left. 
> 
> WIP on the right.
> 
I also prefer to use the mouse with my left hand, even though I am
right handed. ... Terry
From: vaccari@oliveb.atc.olivetti.com (Alberto Vaccari)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Unsubscribe
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:31:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Sun, 2 Aug 92 11:26:52 +0200
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Please unsubscribe me. Thank you.
From: Peter_Imants_Buttuls@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: No title in original
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:25:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 16:05:20 MDT
Message-Id: <3200651@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca>

I have collected information on, and studied parts of X for many weeks now,
in anticipation of having to help our clients off the mainframe  Michigan
Terminal System (MTS) we have operated about 20 years. One of the graphics
subroutine packages, IG, on that system allows clients to draw a picture or
graph on a terminal screen, and within the SAME program run, ask for hard-
copy, when a description of the picture/plot is put out on disk, and sub-
sequently another program is run to produce high resolution graphics output.
I think X can satisfy all the requirements of IG, except the high res.
output. Does anyone have any ideas how I can achieve that. Could I draw into
a high res. pixmap for instance, then put the pixmap out to disk, and use
a pixmap to postscript converter, say. I only need 8 colors for this 
application. The res. I need would be 300 dots/inch. Actually I would prefer
a vector description of the picture rather than raster, but this is not
likely possible with X.
 
Peter Buttuls, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada 
e-mail:(userpib@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
From: worthen@nosc.mil (Richard H. Worthen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: What's new in R6?
Date: 29 Aug 92 03:52:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA

Date: 28 Aug 92 15:33:50 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug28.153350.9964@nosc.mil>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x



:In article <1992Aug27.232636.7983@nosc.mil>, worthen@nosc.mil (Richard H. Worthen) writes:
:|> 
:|> What will be in X11R6? When will it be available?

:I heard either today or tomorrow.

:|> Will code written for R5 run on R6?

:No, it has to all be converted to C++ to run under R6.

:|> I've heard talk about a "multi-media" flavor for X. Is this true? 
:|> If so, will it be a part of R6? X12? 

:What do you mean just "talk of multi-media" for R6?
:With the XBell call, you can add audio to your clients
:today!

:|> What is the status of the multi-threaded extension?

:Work on the multi-threaded "extension" is all tied
:up right now.

:|> What plans (if any) are there for X12?

:This is just a rumor but I heard they are building a
:SoftPC extension that allows clients to download DOS
:executables to the X server for it to run.  There is
:even some talk of actually having clients download themselves
:into the server.

:For client programmers, the X resource mechanism is being
:extended so the entire client can be nothing but an app-defaults
:file.  A lot of users were complaing that X resources
:"just weren't configurable enough."

:|> thanks in advance,

:No problem.

:I'm not sure if all of this is true but if enough people
:repeat it, it will seem like it is true.

:- Mark Kilgard

These same questions have been asked by many of those responsible for 
developing equipment and systems for DOD and who are concerned with
software re-use and portability.

Page 1 of "PEX Protocol Specification and Encoding, Version 5.1P" states:
"The next release of PEX, version 6.0, will be a major release. Since
it does not need to be backwards-compatible..." Statements like this 
shed a dim light on the issues of software re-use and portability.

Mr. Kilgard: It's responses like yours that help to support my belief
that software will always cost many times that of the hardware that 
supports it. I have added you to my list of non-informants.
From: robh@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Robert G Henderson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Compiling InterViews 3.0 with g++ 2.2.2
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:50:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder

Date: 27 Aug 92 20:55:43 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug27.205543.10851@colorado.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x



I've successfully compiled libIV.a with g++ 2.2.2 on
a decstation running ultrix 4.2.  However, I've run into
a problem compiling libUnidraw.a that I'm having trouble
fixing.  If I was a C++ programmer, I could probably work
around it but I'm not.

The file giving me trouble is src/lib/Unidraw/catalog.c:

../catalog.c: In method `class PSPattern* Catalog::ReadPattern (const char *, int)':
../catalog.c:1596: bad argument 0 for function `istream::istream (struct streambuf*, class ostream* (=  0 ))' (type was unsigned int )
../catalog.c:1596: in base initialization for class `istream'

Has anyone successfully compiled InterViews 3.0 with g++ 2.2.2.  If so,
I'd appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks,

Rob Henderson
robh@cs.colorado.edu
From: kossack@owlnet.rice.edu (Jordan M Kossack)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: PRIVATE MESSAGE FOR HARRY MANDELL
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:31:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: The Great Republic of Texas

Date: 30 Aug 1992 21:47:05 GMT
Message-Id: <BttGII.1tE@rice.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.forsale,alt.sex,comp.windows.x,rec.humor,misc.jobs.misc,alt.good.news,alt.postmodern,rec.pets.dogs,talk.politics.guns,soc.singles,alt.fan.monty-python

In article <1992Aug18.013440.26452@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
|> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|> %  Craig Hamm, DoD #1500, 1981 Maxim 650 % Not enough disk space for	    %
|> %  Memorial University                   % disclamer (?)                 %
|> %  St. John's        		    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%	|> %  Newfoundland   							    %

	Oh ... A Newfie ... That explains it!    :-) 

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From: izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il (Ilan Aisic)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XPutPixel and and XGetPixel and image layout
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:51:12 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology

Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:47:04 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep3.164704.4951@discus.technion.ac.il>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <VICTOR.92Aug31135453@terse4.watson.ibm.com> victor@watson.ibm.com writes:
>I know that the standard "safe" way of writing and reading pixels in
>an image is to use XPutPixel and XGetPixel.  However, for speed one
>would like to read and write units (bytes, double bytes, quad bytes
>and whatever) directly for speed.  Is there a reliable way of
>determining what the layout of the image is?  I realize that,
>theoretically, it doesn't need to be layed out by scan lines, with
>possible padding, in which case all bets are off.  Is there a good way
>of determining whether or not this is the case (via some X calls), and
>if the image is layed out in a "standard" way to determine to
>parameters: a) how much space a pixel takes up, b) is there padding at
>the end of a scan line, and anything else that might be relevant.
>
>--
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Well, why don't you use XGetImage, manipulate the whole rectangular,
and then call XPutImage to lay it back on the drawable?


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