HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Teletext in the U.S. ? (Re: More about CNN International)
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:41:56 GMT

>That doesn't surprise med, really. When I visited the U.S. for the
>first time last month, I discovered that nobody I asked had heard of
>teletext. Does teletext exist at all in the United States ? 

Nope.  It resurfaces from time to time here in the US, the latest
incarnation being called 'Interactive Television', and always flops. 
It's always under-powered and completely boring to most people.

I was in the UK this summer and spent an entire afternoon playing with
Ceefax...really useful stuff!  Unfortunately something like Ceefax has
really never been tried here on a large scale, even though the technology
involved is not that great a leap forward.  Then again, how much of the UK
is wired for cable?  The proportion of homes in the US must be pretty large
by now...  

I think one of the major problems is that teletext is useful for information
like scores and weather reports, but US customers expect flashy gimmicks
like home shopping and video games.  If it was just used to supplement 
normal TV viewing with facts and charts, great.  Unfortunately there's
no market for this, I believe...

-- 

                 ___________________________________________
                  Louis Koziarz
                  koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
From: jerrett@iastate.edu (Gregory A Jerrett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Petition for the SF Channel
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:30:22 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

for those of you interested in getting the Science Fiction Channel the best
way to get your cable company to subscribe is to present them with a
simple, handwritten petition with a couple of hundred signatures.
Your local comic book store or science fiction bookseller shoiuld be the 
best place rto start or find a petition to sign.

For those of you here in Ames, Mayhem comics has started a petition.  They
have about 100 signatures already but they are looking for 250 before they
turn it in to heritage cablevision.  I urger(urge) you to sign it if you haven't already.

Greg Jerrett
From: hg798502@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Hugh Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Bill and Ted v's Wayne's World (was Re: New Stuff on BBC in the ne)
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:57:21 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <2826@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes...
>
>> Difference in comedy culture but I find Wayne's World about as funny as
>> Vic Reeves.
>
>   I must agree with the original poster on this, WW is crappola.
>Eldorado is funnier. I'm serious...try it out! I also liked Bill & Ted
>films a LOT, and hated Wayne's World (the film). I got people thinking I
>was insane over in rec.arts.movies because I liked one and not the
>other!! Now we get the WW TV show and.....it's even less funny than the
>piss film I saw! The whole of Wayne's World revolves around 2 or 3
>jokes, being constantly repeated by 2 guys (who are too old for the
>parts) who look really insincere, like they have to force themselves to
>stay in charcater. Pah. Total mince. I guess I can understand why it
>appeals to heavy metal kiddies though.
>
>   I do however think Vic Reeves is funnier than WW, and I too am a Vic
>Reeves hater!
>
Wayne's World sketches are taken from Saturday Night Live.
This has major cult status in t'USofA but - donning asbestos - it's
seriously crap and lacking in novelty.  (can something have *major*
cult status ?:-))  [Note at this point that I am a guest in t'USAofA
and it's not all bad here.;-)]

A 'joke' from last Saturday's non-live repeat involved 'er from Cheers
getting molested by Italian waiters.  Full of racial and sexual
stereotyping.  Very non-PC.  If that was not a problem, the entire
sketch relied on this one outdated joke.  Maybe this is why Benny
Hill was popular here.

I think the cult status stems from days of yore (Chevy Chase etc on
the show) but it still seems to be the show most discussed here on 
campus on Monday a.m.
Maybe my british sense of humor oops humour doesn't jibe with
the US version.

I think we need a soc.culture.usa.v.uk.i.am.better.than.you.no.youre.not
:-)


Hugh
A guest, not a spokesman of, CSU.
--
hg798502@longs.lance.colostate.edu
I am not a free man, I am a number.
From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: wasting bandwidth...
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:51:25 EST
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

 Subject: Wasting Bandwidth (was Re: Americanising of the UK,
 Now: British

-> Do you think we could leave this discussion out of to rec.arts.drwho
-> and alt.tv.prisoner?  Cheers!

 It isn't just those two newsgroups, either. The same posts are being
repeated almost everywhere people think it could vaguely apply.
 To be honest, I'm really quite sick of flogging through them all. Even
if in one newgroup, let alone several.

Regards,
Dale Clayton
-----------------------
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario/Detroit, MI
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: mae@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Mary Anne Espenshade)
Subject: Re: The Professionals - how many shows?
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 21:41:59 GMT

Mario Moeller / moeller@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au asks:
>Does anybody know exactly how many shows of The Professionals
>were actually produced?
I had to look this up, ah - reference materials.

Source - "The Complete Professionals" by Dave Rogers, 1986
(includes full credits and plot synopses for the entire show)

Series 1: aired 12/77 - 3/78, 13 episodes (counting the "banned" and
	  unaired "Klansman" (has this ever been aired since in the
	  UK?))

Series 2: aired 10/78 - 12/78, 10 episodes

Series 3: aired 10/79 - 12/79, 8 episodes (including 3 held over from
	  series 2)

Series 4: aired 9/80 - 12/80, 15 episodes

Series 5: aired 11/82 - 2/83, 11 episodes (including 6 held over from
	  series 4)

making 57 episodes.

I've only seen about a dozen myself.  It never aired in the U.S. expect
for one lucky Dallas - Ft. Worth station, all NTSC copies have the same
station IDs.  Which makes it all the odder that it is probably #3 in
fanzine production behind ST and B7, what US fans there are are *very*
active.
--
Mary Anne Espenshade
ARPA: mae@aplpy.jhuapl.edu
UUCP: ...!allegra!mimsy!aplcen!aplpy!mae
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: feldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Todd J. Feldman)
Subject: The NEW "The New Statesman"
Originator: feldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:28:46 GMT

I am a die-hard "The New Statesman" fanatic stranded here in the States.  

Would anyone in Britain consider taping the new series for me (starting this
week!) in exchange for some US material? 

I would be forever grateful...

Thanks,

Todd Feldman
From: eusl01@castle.ed.ac.uk (L Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: A Very Polish Practice
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:20:01 GMT
Distribution: rec, ed, eduni
Organization: Edinburgh University

I thought this was a disappointment. Doggy Daker had become a stereotypical
new man instead of a confused anti hero with sexual dysfunction. Grete
(although still, blessedly, "as in cheese grater") had become an unlikeable
bint in a short skirt. Instead of the surreal froth we knew and loved it
was another rather plodding piece (the pace was all wrong) about life-is-hard
in the new eastern Europe. Of course, that could have been the whole point.
Enjoyable childish fantasy series do give way to the serious businesses of
real life, having kids, etc. ("Poland seems pretty like real life to me.")
Then again, Andrew davies may just have jumped at the location money and the
chance to get off with Polish women. (Anyone know why Andrew davies does have
this thing about Polish Women? See also Balltrap on Cote Sauvage and Dirty Faxesnot to mention the AVPP novelisation.)

Lilian (a disappointed AD groupie)
From: asr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Angus "Fluffy" Rae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Marx Brothers building a house
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:39:54 GMT
Organization: CATHY_VoiceMail_Project

lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert) writes:
>Don't be surprised if it disappoints you, though.  As Joe Adamson says
>in GROUCHO, HARPO, CHICO AND SOMETIMES ZEPPO:

Sigh. Poor old Gummo, forgotten again... at least Zeppo gets mentioned
every now and again (usually as the answer in quizzes where they ask you
to name all the Marx brothers).

Duck Soup has got some of my personal favourite lines, especially the
"lock of hair" bit.

-- 
Angus G Rae, the Cuddly Vampire Teddy Bear [asr@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk]
"Let me explain about Genetic Engineering. That's where you take a cell
from a human being and put it into a sheep, in the hope that one day it
will go out and buy something."           Neil Innes, More Jam Tomorrow
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: bicker@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Subject: EastEnders in NYC (or Phila.)
Reply-To: Brian.C.Kohn@att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:43:00 GMT


It seems that EastEnders is no longer on WNYC-TV31 Sunday nights any
longer.  Does anyone know to what time the show has been moved?
Alternatively, does anyone know what time WHYY-TV12 shows EastEnders?

-- 
Brian Charles Kohn               using !bicker's account
Poet-Magician of "Quality"       E-MAIL: bicker@hoqax.ATT.COM
    'Hope, not fear, is the most positive advocate of action.' - S.R. Lawhead
                   Stamp Out "SO": "RP" = "Romantic Partner"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk,alt.comedy.british
From: john@bunsen.rosemount.com (John Perkins)
Subject: Re: Blackadder's Christmas Carol now available in North America
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:13:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.152306.11057@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> jhc@iscp.bellcore.com (Jonathan Clark) writes:
>[stuff omitted]
>Jonathan Clark
>jhc@iscp.bellcore.com
>
>The Englishman never enjoys himself except for some noble purpose.

Quite.

And I'm so glad that almost everything we do is for some noble purpose.

John Perkins (Englishman).
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: More about CNN International
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:16:30 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: Synapse Computer Consultants
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


Does anyone know HOW to contact CNN International so we can tell them we
don't like the service?  They may think they're damn popular or something.


Scott
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: dj@ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: Around the World in 80 Days II ?
Organization: :noitazinagrO
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:33:54 GMT

In article <6039@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.101541.10672@waikato.ac.nz>, rgty_mrw@waikato.ac.nz (Mark
>Willcock) writes:
>|> I have heard there is to be a "sequel" to the excellent 'Around the World in
>|> 80
>|> Days' with Micheal Palin.  In fact I am sure they were filming it ealy this
>|> year
>|> 
>|> Does anyone have any info ?
>
>Yes, you're correct. Mr Palin has made a journey circumnavigating the globe
>via the poles (North and South, not the people). I think it's due to be shown
>in the new Autumn season on BBC over here so I presume you will get it
>eventually.
>-- 
According to "TV Guide" we get it in January in the USA.  The advertised
methods of travel include dog-sled and fishing boat.

-- 
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||)) must dwell in Limbaugh for a time  ))) they get lost - S. Milligan   ))|
||))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))|
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Xref: sparky rec.arts.tv.uk:5363 rec.arts.tv:17573
From: hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Teletext in the U.S. ? (Re: More about CNN International)
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:35:14 GMT
	<1992Sep5.152243.15209@cs.hw.ac.uk> <Bu7FGu.4n0@csc.liv.ac.uk>
	<1992Sep8.100849.28931@corax.udac.uu.se>
	<1992Sep8.122736.308@dct.ac.uk> <BuBFLw.Kt@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv.uk
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


[ note that followups are directed to rec.arts.tv.uk, but as this is a
  question not specifically related to UK TV, I have crossposed this to
  rec.arts.tv ]

In article <BuBFLw.Kt@csc.liv.ac.uk> rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd) wrote:
> What I *don't* like about CNN International is:

[ stuff deleted ]

> * No teletext service (now one of the few Astra channels not to have a
> teletext service).

That doesn't surprise med, really. When I visited the U.S. for the
first time last month, I discovered that nobody I asked had heard of
teletext. Does teletext exist at all in the United States ? 


- Hans


P.S. The song of the year has to be "Television: Drug of the nation"
by the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy.
--
Hans H{\"u}ttel                          - hans@iesd.auc.dk  
Mathematics and Computer Science
Aalborg University, Fredrik Bajersvej 7E,
9220 Aalborg, DENMARK                    - Peace sells, but who's buying ?
From: sm@g2.ph.man.ac.uk (Steve Mowbray)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Details on the fate of ST:TNG in the U
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:58:47 GMT
Reply-To: sm@g2.ph.man.ac.uk
Organization: University of Manchester, UK

In article 27768@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu, thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester) writes:
>...the BBC also censored part of "Conspiracy" for its graphical content.
>[description deleted]

What's even better is that they left in some of the cut bit as part
of the end-of-season flashback episode (can't remember the title).

>Uncle Fester

I'm beginning to really resent the licence fee.

---
Steve Mowbray, Physics Department, University of Manchester, U.K.
-  Janet: sm@uk.ac.man.ph.g2  /  Internet: sm@g2.ph.man.ac.uk  -
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: brein@gpvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Barry Rein)
Subject: Fireball XL5 and before...
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv.uk
Organization: JPL
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:46:55 GMT

Before Thunderbirds there was Stingray.  Before Stingray there was Fireball
XL5.  And before Fireball XL5 there was...what?  In the dimmest recesses of
my memory I vaguely recall watching a sci-fi puppet series which may have
included a rotating ring-shaped space station.  Does anyone remember the
name of this series, if it existed?

Also, how about some reminiscences from Stingray...remember Marina?
And Fireball XL5..."Most satisfactory."


******************************************
*       Barry Rein                       *
*       brein@dsfvax.jpl.nasa.gov        *
******************************************
*       No clever comment.               *
******************************************
From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: The Thunderbirds
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:51:57 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep15.083901.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, pmorris@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
> In article <1992Sep15.123532.12951@phillip.edu.au>, t9014123@phillip.edu.au writes:
>> 
>> Sorry if this is a FAQ, but here goes.  In the TV show 'The Thunderbirds',
>> what do they mean when they say "F.A.B."??
>> 
>> No-one I know seems to know (hey, I'm a poet and don't even know it!)
>> 
>> Reply by e-mail please.
> 
> Also post it if possible, please.
> 

It simply means "Fab" as in fabulous; nothing more. Remember the
series was made during the sixties. At least that's what the Andersons
said and they should know. I think later someone may have dreamt up a
few meanings...

-- 

Alan Greig                            Janet: Alan@UK.AC.DUNDEE-TECH
Dundee Institute of Technology	      Tel: (0382) 308810
From: Robert.Hartill@cm.cf.ac.uk (virtual user)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Around the World in 80 Days II ?
Date: 8 Sep 92 08:35:15 GMT
Organization: Shabby

In article <1992Sep8.101541.10672@waikato.ac.nz>, rgty_mrw@waikato.ac.nz (Mark Willcock) writes:
|> Hi, 
|> 
|> I have heard there is to be a "sequel" to the excellent 'Around the World in 80
|> Days' with Micheal Palin.  In fact I am sure they were filming it ealy this year
|> 
|> Does anyone have any info ?
|> 

The new series will be a pole-to-pole journey.
i.e North Pole to South Pole (or vice-versa)

 
--
    ____Robert Hartill, Dept Of Computing Mathematics, UWCC, Cardiff, UK.____
    \______e-mail : rhl@cm.cf.ac.uk _________ Fax : +44 (0)222 666182_______/
If ants are such busy workers,how come they find time to go to all the picnics?
				-Marie Dressler.
From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: L.A. Law possible cancellation shocker !
Keywords: itv bunch of swines i hate them etc etc
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:53:55 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

L.A. LAW MAJOR SHOCKER !!!!!
============================

I was stunned when I read this on teletext:

"L.A. Law could be *dropped* by the new ITV because of low ratings. The series
is thought not mass appeal enough by many in the revamped network. Paul
Jackson, director of programmes at Carlton Television [one of the new franchise
winners], said 'L.A. Law is no longer strong enough for us.' L.A. Law has
always sat uneasily in ITV's lowbrow drama schedule, which is full of
detectives and mini-series. L.A. Law gets 6-8 million viewers. A final ITV
decision on whether to renew it will not be made for some time, but negotations
are continuing."

I'll certainly get on a letter-writing crusade if L.A. Law is
dropped from ITV (despite the swines cutting entire scenes out !). It's
exactly the sort of series BBC 2 should buy up because at least there's no
ads to provide the excuse for editing. All this is probably a result of those
stupid, stupid franchise auctions, where many ITV companies spent too much on
the bid and have to find ways of cost-cutting. To target the *best* US import
on ITV as a means of achieving this is simply outrageous.

Richard K. Lloyd, 
Computer Science Dept.,   JANET     : rkl@uk.ac.liverpool.compsci
Liverpool University,     Internet  : rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk
Merseyside, England,    Q: "What's the world's fastest home micro ?"
Great Britain.          A: "The Archimedes A3000. 4 MIPS for under 800 pounds."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk,alt.comedy.british
From: jan_b@lysator.liu.se (Jan Besehanic)
Subject: Re: Blackadder's Christmas Carol now available in North America
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 09:45:40 GMT

daniel@csgi63.dcs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow) writes:

>In article <BtyEuu.461@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, catstyle@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (CatStyle ) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep1.162730.8346@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> jhc@iscp.bellcore.com (Jonathan Clark) writes:
>> >(excluding the Staradder sketch). Ordering information:
>> 
>> For the benefit of my co-worker, what was the Staradder sketch?
>> (It's a girl using a Mac, wonder upon wonder that she doesn't
>> know how to post...)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> CatStyle
>> jrh@uiuc.edu

>Well ignoring that truly sexist and geekish remark, the "Staradder" sketch
>was the vision of times to come in Blackadder's Christmas Carol, where the
>far distant future is revealed.

Do you mean the one where Blackadder is dressed up like Travis,
that nice, peaceloving man from Blakes 7?
I saw that episode a long time ago and I seem to recall that 
Robbie Coltrane made a brief appearance as a ghost.

>-- 
>Dan Crow
>daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk

--
Jan Besehanic
email: jan_b@lysator.liu.se
New, improved .sig-file under construction.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.startrek
From: judiths@eliot.uucp (Judith Speck)
Subject: Re: Details on the fate of ST:TNG in the UK
Reply-To: judiths@usisun.UUCP (Judith Speck)
Organization: UNITECH Software, Inc., Reston, VA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:25:37 GMT

In article <Bu7Fsw.4rz@csc.liv.ac.uk> rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd) writes:
>This is from the weekend's teletext pages on ITV:
>
>Q: "It's great to see the original Star Trek back on TV. But does this mean
>that the BBC has lost the rights to show the Next Generation series ?"
>
>A: "Yes, UK rights for the Next Generation have now passed to Sky, which
>retains them until July 1994. 
>
>
>* From what I've learned elsewhere, "shown complete" means NO censoring (even
>  for the 5pm showing !) and also the airing for the first time ever in the UK
>  of the banned "The High Ground" episode.
>
>I guess it's some crumbs of comfort, but the BBC's treatment of ST:TNG has
>been appalling since day one and if the same thing happened in the US, there'd
>be riots in the streets by now...
>
>Richard K. Lloyd, 


   Why on earth would the BBC censor Star Trek:TNG?  WHAT could there be to
censor--it's one of the cleanest shows on TV!  I hope the BBC doesn't run
Monty Python reruns.
   I think Star Trek is a sort of futuristic morality play, with the "Prime
Directive" and its purpose of reason and peace.  Many of the story lines
have a point to them.


Good grief!


Judi

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: jerrett@iastate.edu (Gregory A Jerrett)
Subject: I need help obtaining Blackadder viddies
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:28:21 GMT

I would like to get my greedy, little hands on Blackadder, all of it, the
series, the specials etc. I have seen a number of them and recorded a few,
but I have come to realize that they are horribly mutilated by A&E and
Comedy Central.  If any of you good people have uncut copies I would like to
talk trade.  I have many interesting items in my collection and I am sure
that there would be something of interest to you.  Please email me at the 
address below. Thanks in advance!

jerrett@iastate.edu
From: zlsiimw@mcchpc.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: TB and SR hit the AIR
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:07:08 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1992Sep14.090757.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, pmorris@kean.ucs.mun.ca
writes:
|> I just finished watching Thunderbirds and Stingray on Canada's national
|> kiddies cable channel YTV this past weekend. I think both were the
|> original premiere epidsodes.

Stingray has just started being shown in the UK on BBC2 on Fridays at 6:00pm.

<stuff deleted>

|> Stingray -- Giant Mechanical Fish torpedoes a World Security Patrol 
|> submarine and Troy Tempest is pressed into action to investigate aboard 
|> Stingray. We are introduced to his partner, Bones (who is seen half-asleep

that's Phones, actually
 
|> at a table witha half-empty bottle of Johnnie Walker Red on it), and the 
                     
didn't spot this -  probably wouldn't be allowed nowadays      

|> father in the wheelchair (hover chair) and his daughter who seem to run the
|> World Security Patrol. Stingray is ambushed by the giant mechanical fish and
|> |> Tempest and Bones are taken prisoner where they meet fellow hostage 
|> Marina (Aqua Marina). Their gaolers are some sort of amphibious bad guys 

great voices they have - all slubbery-blubbery - dare I say it, a bit like
Yungstar in Terrahawks.

|> who live 2,000 fathoms below the ocean surface. Marina helps them escape. 
|> They realize that these sub-oceanic bad guys are to be reckoned with in 
|> future (daughter who vies for Tempest's affections realizes that Marina is 
|> also to be reckoned with for same affections).

-- 
_____________________________________________________________
Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre