HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vnnguyen@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Nha^n Ni)
Subject: Re: hi
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:09:35 GMT

In article <713483939.0.TNGUYEN@NIKE.QUALCOMM.COM> TNGUYEN@qualcomm.com (Thom V. Nguyen) writes:
>
>Ngo^`i buo^`n do.c ~  lo*`i cu?a ca'c anh chi. em nha` ho. pha' tt ra^'t
>u*a, tt muo^'n go*?i lo*`i cha`o de^'n qui' vi. va` cho tt qua^.y vo*'i
>cho vui.
>
>tie^?u thu* do`ng nguye^~n.
>
>-------


Hi Nguye^~n Tie^?u thu+,

Ne^'u Nguye^~n Tie^?u tho+ muo^'n pha' thi` cu+' tu+. nhie^n, ai thi` kho^ng bie^'t chu+' ke? he`n na`y kho^ng co' mind dda^u, cu+' pha' cho ddo+`i no' tu+o+i le^n mo^.t chu't chu+' kho^ng thi` buo^`n che^'t ddi ddu+o+.c ro^`i la.i than va('n , tho+? da`i nhu+ chi. Buo^`n ra^`u nu+~a thi` kho^? na('m,

Pha' vui ve? ha'.
 

Nha^n Ni,

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Use Soft Words And Hard Arguments <TXN1470@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: Re: *** STRIKE ***
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: TXN1470@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:08:53 GMT


 I have discussed about personal messages on SCV with my local friends. We have
no idea why those personal messages are posted on public SCV. If the public can
access to those personal msgs, they will not longer be personal. On SCV, those
personal msgs annoy netters and take lots of spaces. Don't forget other
people's rights when you want to have yours.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: ****** SCV with MODERATOR ************
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:34:42 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC

I'd suggest we create talk.politics.vietnamese first and see if the
political and the non-political discussions could be split off. 

Alternately, I'd support creating soc.Culture.vietnamese.digest (moderated)
as a way to improve the signal/noise ratio...

Ran
From: pphan@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Pham Phan)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:23:57 GMT
Subject: [SEASIA NEWS] Dioxin's effect in Vietnam
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA
From: heatherp@mercury.ncat.edu (Andre' T-N Nguye^~n)
Subject: RE: {[Travel] New England/Canada ...
Organization: North Carolina A&T State University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:17:30 GMT


Hi there,

Ne^'u ba.n co' y' ddi.nh ddi tha(m tha`nh pho^' Montreal
thi` ddu+`ng que^n vu+o+`n ba'ch tha?o, Olympic Stadium,
Biodome, La Ronde (o+? Ile Ste-Helene), Imax (o+? Vieux
Montreal), Vieux Montreal, Oratoire St Joseph, shopping
du+o+'i lo`ng dda^'t .... :)))

Va` ddo^`ng tho+`i na(m nay la` ky~ nie^.m thu+' 350 cu?a
tha`nh pho^' Montreal cho ne^n co' ra^'t nhie^`u festivals,
ca ha't kha('p no+i ... :)))

Hy vo.ng ra(`ng ba.n se~ co' ddu~ thi` gio+` ddi tham quan 
tha`nh pho^' ... :))) and have a pleasant stay in Montreal.

Andre Nguyen


Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: ltran@elaine11.Stanford.EDU (LINH TRAN)
Subject: [THO+] ON NHU HAU -- Cung Oa'n Nga^m Khu'c
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 04:53:26 GMT

	DDa^y la` ddoa.n cuo^'i cu?a loa.t ba`i na`y . Bao nhie^u ca^u
	ddu? dde^? no';i le^n nha^n sinh quan cu?a O^ng Nhu+ Ha^`u Nguye^~n
	Gia Thie^`u .

	O+? ddo+`i co' nhu+~ng chuye^.n mi`nh tu+. la`m cho mi`nh kho^? .
	Va^.y, ne^'u ta ba('t chu+o+'c theo thie^n nhie^n, bo? ddi nhu+~ng
	ca'i nha^'t quye^'t pha?i a(n thua ddu? vo+'i nhau thi` co' ai la`m
	cho mi`nh ma^'t ngu? ddu+o+.c ? Co' ai co' the^? la`m cho mi`nh
	a(n kho^ng ngon ddu+o+.c ? 

	Vo^ Vi. . 



------------
NGUYE^N VA(N
------------

113.	    la^'y gio' ma't tra(ng thanh ke^'t nghi~a
	    mu+o+.n hao dda`m dduo^'c tue^' la`m duye^n
		thoa't tra^`n mo^.t go't thie^n nhie^n
	ca'i tha^n ngoa.i va^.t la` tie^n trong ddo+`i

117.	    y' cu~ng ra('p ra ngoa`i dda`o chu'
	    quye^'t lo^.n vo`ng phu phu. cho cam
		ai ngo+` tro+`i cha(?ng cho la`m
	quye^'t ddem da^y tha('m ma` giam bo^ng dda`o

121.	    ha(?n tu'c tra'i la`m sao dda^y ta'
	    hay tie^`n nha^n ha^.u qua? xu+a kia
		hay Thie^n Cung co' ddie^`u gi`
	xuo^'ng tra^`n ma` tra? no+. ddi cho ro^`i

125. 	    ki`a ddie^?u thu' la` loa`i va.n va^.t
	    da^~u vo^ tri cu~ng ba('t dde`o bo`ng
		co' a^m du+o+ng, co' vo+. cho^`ng
	da^~u tu+` thie^n ddi.a cu~ng vo`ng phu the^

129.	    ddu+o+`ng ta'c ho+.p tro+`i kia dong ru~i
	    lo.t la`m sao cho kho?i nha^n ti`nh
		tho^i tho^i ngoa?nh ma(.t la`m thinh
	thu+? xem con ta.o gieo mi`nh no+i nao

	...


-------------
DIE^~N NGHI~A
-------------

	(113) la`m ba.n vo+'i gio' ma't tra(ng trong
	mu+o+.n hao dda`m va` dduo^'c tue^' dde^? la`m duye^n
	ra kho?i tra^`n tu.c, ddi trong thie^n nhie^n
	ngay dde^'n ca'i tha^n mi`nh cu~ng ke^? la` va^.t be^n ngoa`i (kho^ng
		co`n la` cu?a mi`nh), va^.y la` tie^n trong ddo+`i ro^`i .

	(117) Y' cu~ng dda~ quye^'t ra ngoa`i vo`ng na('n ddu'c cu?a Ta.o Hoa'
	Quye^'t ra kho?i ca'i vo`ng vo+. cho^`ng cho no' thoa? .
	ai ngo+` tro+`i cha(?ng cho mi`nh la`m nhu+ va^.y
	ma` la.i ddem so+.i da^y co^.t ca'i bo^ng dda`o

	(121) Ha(?n la` ta co' ma('t no+. [tu'c tra'i] dda^u ddo' pha?i cha(ng
		[dda^y ta'] ?
	hay la` ca'i ha^.u qua? cua? kie^'p tru+o+'c xu+a dda~ la`m ?
	hay tre^n tro+`i co' la`m ddie^`u gi` 
	dde^? nay pha?i xuo^'ng tra^`n ma` tra? no+. cho xong ?

	(125) Xem kia`, ngay loa`i chim muo^n, chi? la` loa`i va^.t vo^ tri,
	da^~u va^.y cu~ng pha?i dde`o bo^`ng;
	co' a^m, co' du+o+ng, co' vo+. co' cho^`ng,
	tu+` tro+`i dda^'t ma` ra, cu~ng trong ca'i vo`ng vo+. cho^`ng .

	(129) con ddu+o+`ng ga(.p nhau do tro+`i dong ru~i ma` ra,
	la`m sao ta co' the^? lo.t ra kho?i ca'i ti`nh ngu+o+`i
	tho^i thi` dda`nh ngoa?nh ma(.t la`m thinh
	thu+? xem o^ng tro+`i ddem ba('t mi`nh bo? ddi no+i dda^u .
	
	

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
Subject: NEWS/VN: Local police reveal foreign tourist agencies peddling sex in VN
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:39:42 GMT

08/17

LOCAL POLICE REVEAL FOREIGN TOURIST AGENCIES PEDDLING SEX IN VIETNAM

BANGKOK (AUG. 17) DPA - A Vietnamese police weekly has revealed that at least
40 foreign tourist companies, many of which are involved in sex tours, are
operating illegally in Vietnam.

''Sex tours are now the name of the game for these foreign tourist companies ''
said the latest issue of the Cong An Thanh Pho, or City Police, weekly
magazine, made available in Bangkok Monday.

The magazine charged that, ''foreign and local partners have closely cooperated
with each other in this business, so each foreign tourist will have a young and
beautiful Vietnamese girlfriend accompanying him throughout his tour from the
time he arrives at the airport until he gets on the plane to leave Ho Chi Minh
City.''

Some 180,000 foreign tourists have visited Ho Chi Minh (formerly Saigon) in the
first half of 1992, according to the weekly. Vietnam first opened its doors to
western tourists and trade with non-communist nations in 1987.

Many tourists are handled by unauthorised foreign tour companies, in
collaboration with Vietnamese partners.

City Police mentioned Oceana Tour (Hong Kong), UC Travel (Hong Kong), Sara Tour
(Germany) and Saigon Tour (Canada) as being among these unlicensed operators.

In terms of sex tours it noted that most ''pleasure seekers are Asians from
Hong Kong, Taiwan, Thailand and Singapore.''

In the same issue, under the title of ''Lady in a Bag - How to traffic Girls
across Hotel Doors'', the magazine described how four western tourists had
recently attempted to smuggle a Vietnamese prostitute into their hotel room by
concealing her in a large bag.

The ''bag girl'' was discovered by a security guard at the Van Canh Hotel, in
Ho Chi Minh City, as one tourist was carrying his precious luggage up to his
room.

''Obviously, since recently the People's Committee has ruled that foreigners
are not allowed to take girls into hotels, these foreigners had to manage to
traffic her into their rooms in such a way,'' concluded the police weekly.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: longn@lauto.lmc.com (Long Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [joke]  Xin thua?
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:10:00 GMT
Reply-To: lauto!longn@sequent.com



To Quang Dinh,

This ought to teach you a lesson for a(n noi' kho^ng ddu+o+.c ca^?n
tha^.n on SCV.  I have a logic vest which make me 'the untouchable'
in this kind of warfare.  However, if someone ddi me't ba ma' tui
thi` tui se~ bi. a(n ddo`n to!  Logic vest will not work in this case.
That's why I hate personal information (my last protection)!  :)

>  :-)))))))))))!  Tui chi.u thua! Ho^?ng da'm ca~i nu+~a. Ddo' la`

Too late, you bi. ba('t le^n tho+'t ro^`i, xin thua cu?ng va^.y ma` tho^i.

> tui mo+"i mo+? mie^.ng dde^? chu+'ng minh la` ca'i fact ( ca^u chuye^.n)
> co' thie^.t chu+' kho^ng co' y' kie^'n gi` kha'c. Ne^'u tui ma` reply

I bet you never see the 'action' but heard from others.  The story makes no 
sense.  Ba('t cho' using a lasso is still the best method.  Linh Tra^`n dda^`u 
oc' kha' la('m nhu+ng hay~ co`n non, he never ba('t cho' ne^n did not really 
know what he's talking about.  

> ca'i ba`i [subject] Lo+`i pha't bie^?u ( hay Cho Y' kie^'n) gi` ddo'
> cu?a ba.n LTV thi` cha<'c tui "che^'t" the^ tha?m qua'.

DDa(`ng nao` anh cu~ng "che^'t", "che^'t" the^ tha?m cu?ng va^.y ma` tho^i.

>  XIN THUA :-)))
>
>   Gooday!
>
>nguyend.

However, there's one way to 'save' you.  I have been remaining on good
term with HandsomeStranger and been his ally against Sadam Hussein of SCV.
Perhaps I could propose him a "trao ddo^i? tu` binh" pact.

How about HandsomeStranger 'tha?' you and Linh Tra^`n for the exchange
of Mr. Temp (who ever accused using this fake alias)?  Perhaps you three
are innocent and carelessly entangled (di'nh lu+o+'i) in the cross-fire zone.

Why don't you and Linh Tra^`n propose this pact to ho^`n ma cua? HCM.  Remember
to beg, cry the^ tha~m & su+o+'t mu+o+'t to get him agreed.  I think this soul 
is very mean and angry.  It became much worse than when was alive!  Meanwhile 
I will use 3 ta^'t lu+o+?i cua? To^ Ta^`n to get HandsomeStranger but it will
be hard since I am asking two for one.


Longan - The hyena
From: lpham@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Leslie Pham)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:33:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Re:Va^'n vu+o+ng
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese

From jnle@cbnewsd.cb.att.com Thu Aug 13 09:14:55 1992
In article <1992Aug13.151542.25602@bnr.ca>, daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do) writes:
> 
> >> >> > Nga^?n Ngo"
> >> >> 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Ngo" nga^?n mi`nh ta la.i nga^?n ngo"
> >> >> > Nu"?a ho^`n nhu" ti?nh nu"?a nhu" mo"
> >> >> > O^ hay! ca?nh cu~ co`n -da^y -da^'y
> >> >> > Sao da'ng ngu"o"`i xu"a va^~n mi.t mo"`?!
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > nguyenv, 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> 	Hello..!
> >> >> 
> >> >> 	Tho+ tha^?n ro^\i da^y la.i tha^?n tho+
> >> >> 	Nu+?a ho^\n o+? ddo' nu+?a ddi mo^
> >> >> 	A ha! Da'ng xu+a gio+\ dda~ ddo^?i
> >> >> 	Ngu+o+\i dda~ ddi ro^\i nho+' ma\ chi....
> >> >> 
> >> >> 	TP
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> 	Helloooooooooo!
> >> 
> >> 	Tho+ tha^?n nga^n? ngo+ ro^i` la.i mo+
> >> 	Mo+ ve^` bo'ng cu? thu+o+? xa lo+
> >> 	Ngu+o+i` ddi, tim che^t' lo`ng to^i la.nh
> >> 	Vi` ca? ho^n` to^i dda~ dai. kho*`....
> >> 
> >> 	LTBR
> >> 
> >
> >
> >	Tho+ tha^?n cho+` ngu+o+`i cu+' nhu+ ... kho+` :)
> >	Nu+?a ho^`n ti?nh ta'o, nu+?a ... lo+` -do+` :)
> >	Ngu+o+`i xa xo^i -do' sao im la(.ng ??
> >	Ti`nh ca?m khi xu+a -da~ phai mo+` ??
> >
> >	LDPP
> 
>     Tho+ tha^?n cho ngu+o+`i la.i tha^~n tho+`
>     Nu+a~ ho^`n co`n ti?nh, nu+?a lo+ mo+
>     Ngu+o+`i xa xo^i ddo', duye^n dda~ ve.n
>     Sao co`n nga^?n ngo+ cho ngu+o+`i kho+`
> 
>     Con Ca' Ma^.p
> 


	Ngu+o+`i ho+~i, sao ngu+o+`i va^~n la`m tho+ ??
	Tim to^i tho^?n thu+'c, ho^`n to^i mo+
	Ti`nh -da~ lo+~, xin -du+`ng luye^'n tie^'c
	Ti`nh mi`nh va^~n -de.p tu+.a gia^'c mo+ ...

	C.N.M.T.


	Chie^m bao vo*'i tha'ng nga`y ro`ng ra~
	Su*.c ti?nh ho^`n to^i la.c ma^'t ro^`i
	Gi`o* -da^y hai -du*'a chia hai nga~
	Ai vu*`a -da'nh ma^'t nu*?a ho^`n to^i....!!!! 
   

	BM
From: lyxuan@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [MISC] Run Dog(DDK(Khoa)) Run!!!
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:12:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: sscvx1.1992Aug14.121214.1
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory

In article <1992Aug14.152724.6975@cs.hw.ac.uk>, vibama@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Doan) writes:
> 
> Just let netters know that I am on long vacation ...

So! The dog (DDK(Khoa)) has finally rolled over and sprayed!! HaaHaaHaa!

> Don't know if I have a chance to rlogin and read my mails...
> Any respond to my posts on SCV please address to vibama@cs.hw.ac.uk...
> Long Nguyen !!! You might get my posts numbered FOUR, FIVE and SIX sometimes
                  ^^^^^^^^^
Hey LN Don't even bother to wait for it! There ain't gonna be!!!HaaHaaHaa!!

> in September ... preferly in private email ... As I have observed SCV is
> already too tense ... The full-moon period of those mad dogs is really digusting.

That's right!! Can't take the heat?? Get out of the kitchen!!!

> It is time for us the stop the dispute ... on SCV ... It is also time for me
> to take my vacation... What a coincidence !!! thanks God !!!!

Is it a vacation from SCV???? HaaaHaaaHaaa!!! We won't leave the light on for
you!!! Try not to let the door hit you on the way out!!! HeeeHeeeHeee!!!
Yeah!!! You not welcomed!!! HeeHeeHeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
 
> If you want to continue then email me .... Just remind that don't yell
> my name on SCV anymore... You won't get anymore respond from me....

What else can you say??? Other than what had already been said???
HaaaHaaaHaaa!!! You are limited!!! Punk!!!

> However I try to reply in private sometime in september and I promise to continue
> the  series.. My words are firm ....
>  

As firm as jelly in a bowl!!! HaaaHaaaHaaa!!!

> It is now 4:30pm in the UK... I am off from Edinburgh very soon...  

It's your bedtime punk!! Say byedy bye!! HaaaHaaaHaaa!!!

Yeah! Good riddence! and don't come back! Don't trip on your tail!!!

> 
> Good bye SCVers !!! Sorry for any inconveniences caused !!!
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> 
> DDK

HandsomeStranger.......
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: toaile@leland.stanford.edu
Subject: [POEM] NGUYE^~N BI?NH KHIE^M
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: toaile@leland.Stanford.EDU
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:38:48 GMT

Tho+ cu?a Nguye^~n Bi?nh Khie^m (que^n tu+.a -de^`)


Mo^.t mai, mo^.t cuo^'c, mo^.t ca^`n ca^u
Tho+ tha^?n du` ai vui thu' na`o
Ta da.i ta ti`m no+i va('ng ve?
Ngu+o+`i kho^n ngu+o+`i -de^'n cho^'n lao xao

Thu a(n ma(ng tru'c, -do^ng a(n gia'
Xua^n ta('m ho^` sen, ha. ta('m ao
Ru+o+.u -de^'n go^'c ca^y ta se~ nha('p
Nhi`n xem phu' qui' tu+.a chie^m bao.


(che'p la.i theo tri' nho+')



_________________________________
toai
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: thaon@menudo.uh.edu (Thao)
Subject: Re: ****** SCV with MODERATOR ************
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:32:55 GMT

>In article <3403@ra.nrl.navy.mil> atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) writes:

(deleted stuff)

>Ok, since there really seems to be a need for a political group,
>I propopes that instead of talk.politic.vietnamese,
>should we create soc.culture.vietnamese.politics???

I propose soc.culture.vietnamese.talk.nonsense for those who want to make, yes, nonsense comments on just about anything they read on the net.

And then soc.culture.vietnamese.spychopath for... well, the name kinda self-
explanatory, isn't it?

Many regards,
Thao

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nguyen@airmics.gatech.edu (Son Nguyen)
Subject: [MISC] Thought
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: nguyen@airmics.gatech.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:20:09 GMT



Once a man was asked why he had taken time to build a bridge over a
treacherous creek that he had already successfully crossed.  He
answered, "Why - to help those who come after me to safely cross, not
tire, and reach greater destinations!"


Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: gt4500b@prism.gatech.edu (Quo^'c Ba?o)
Subject: Sign on...
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: gt4500b@prism.gatech.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:07:15 GMT


Hello...!

	Please, add my name to the mailing list.  Thank you..!

	Ca'm o+n nhie^`u...!

	TP

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
Subject: NEWS/VN: Vietnamese student killed in racial beating
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:14:16 GMT


08/18

Racial Beating

Copyright, 1992. The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

   CORAL SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) -- Five men were being held without bond Tuesday in
the fatal beating of a Vietnamese college student who was chased down like "an
injured deer" after he objected to a racial slur, police said.
   Luyen Phan Nguyen, 19, a pre-med student at the University of Miami, died
Monday of head wounds suffered when he was chased and beaten outside a party
Saturday night.
   "It started off with some young guy wanting to be a tough guy, and everybody
just got involved," said Detective Jim Milford. "They chased him down like a
hunter chases down an injured deer. It was like a mob scene."
   Someone at the party started making racial slurs, said Sgt. Jeffrey Maslan.
Nguyen said something and the dispute escalated, Maslan said.
   "He was defending his honor," he said.
   Nguyen never emerged from a coma, officials at Broward General Medical Center
said.
   Nguyen's family left Vietnam in 1980 and settled in Coral Springs six years
ago. He had hoped to become a doctor like his father.
   About five percent of Coral Springs' 81,000 residents are Asians, Maslan
said.
   Christopher Anderson, Terry Jamerson, Warren Mills, Michael Primato and John
Liptak were all charged with second-degree murder Monday and were being held
without bond at the Broward County Jail. Jamerson is 20 years old, and the
others are 18.
   Police said they anticipated additional arrests. "We feel the five are the
key players, but there were others that got in a punch," Maslan said.
   Mayor Jeanne Mills criticized those at the party who apparently did not step
in to stop the beating. "That inhumanity is about as upsetting as the beating
itself," Mills said.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: ltran@utah (Linh T. Tran x4900)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [MISC] Does crazy person knows that he/she is crazy?
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:33:56 GMT
Reply-To: ltran@dsp.lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation


	What was uttered below reminds me of a story. It is about Trang Tu+?
and Hue^. Tu+? . (The name may be wrong. It has been a long time that I read this story. Could recite it a bit different than the original story). 
The story goes:

	Hue^. Tu+? came to visit Trang Tu+? and met him on the bridge. Trang
	Tu+? pointed at the Red Fishes in the water, and told Hue^. Tu+?:
	-- They are happy, as they don't have to worry about the world.

	Hue^. Tu+? retorted:
	-- Are you a fish? If you are not, how would you know?

	Trang Tu+? answered:
	-- You are not me! Then how could you know for certain that I don't
	know, even if I am not a fish?

	The story let us think about sanity. It is hard for us to know an
insane person actually knows he is sane or not. Thus, unless we were
insane, somehow we couldn't know. Howabout insane person knows deep
down inside him/her that he/she is insane, but cannot do anything
to prevent the insanity to creep out? 

	How do we know we are sane or not? It is hard. That is why MOST of
the insane persons wouldn't say that they are insane. Because they didn't know.
But eventually, some admit that they were insane in a particular time.

	What made us judged as insane by the society, by other? Even it is not
a crime to be insane, it is not a desirable trait.

	Some insane are genius, and some genius became insane. But most of
the insane are not genius. So, claiming one is insane doesn't prove anything.
A sane person who claim that he is insane is surely a hypocrite, unless it is
for some circumstances, he must fake the insanity (To^n Ta^~n, for example).

	It is interesting to note that the normal people would judge easily
of some one is insane. And the normal people would see only one or two out
of a thousand who are insane. However, the insane person would see all others
as abnormal. Thus, saying that all other are insane is a sign of losing one's
sanity.

	In conclusion, it is hard to know that we are insane or not. So, to
make sure that I am normal, I would listen to whatever my entourage told
me. And I try to make them see me as normal. After all, the difference between
an insane person and a sane person is only in the fact that the former 
couldn't curb his/her unreasonnable thoughts, while the later could.

	Linh

	


lyxuan@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:
: 
: I do what I want!
: A crazy person never say that they are insane! or crazy!!! Right??
: I am crazy!! But you're way worse! A loony!!  HeeHeeHee!!!!
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