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From: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: US Open prediction (mens)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:10:34 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: U. Wisconsin-Madison, Robotics Laboratory


In the men's side:

I think  US Open `92' is literally the most `open' with no clear
favourites. I don't think anybody should be surprised if *anybody* in
the top 10 wins. My pick for the US open mens champ: 
`SOMEONE IN THE TOP 10' ( hopefully Edberg ( although not likely
considering his poor form))         

- Hari

K.R.Harinarayan
Robotics Lab., Dept. of Mech. Engg.
Univ. of Wisconsin, Madison

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From: eddie@chpc.utexas.edu (Eddie Hedges)
Subject: Featured matches today
Keywords: US Open
Organization: The University of Texas System CHPC
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 16:54:36 GMT

Source: Austin American-Statesman
All times CST in USA (as far as I know)

Stadium 6:30pm
 Halle Cloffi, Louden, Tenn. vs. Steffi Graff (2), Germany
 Jim Courier (1), Dade City, Fla., vs. Alex O'Brien, United States

Grandstand 6:30pm
 Brad Gilbert, Oakland, vs. Steve Bryan, Katy, Texas

This morning at 10am Andrew Sznajder, Canada, vs. David Wheaton,
Excelslor, Minn. do battle on the Grandstand court. Sznajder was in
a tournament here not too long ago. This should be a good match.

Eddie 
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From: bonacci@ecf.toronto.edu (BONACCI John)
Subject: Re: Tennis Babes
Followup-To: misc.test
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 04:17:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.021420.20849@ncsu.edu> cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG) writes:
>Hello. This is my first post here.
[...]
>babes 
[...]

Hello again.
Well, it's actually your second post. 
Please elaborate, we don't understand the question. :-)
From: adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Thursday's News
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:57:22 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun24.bbn.com


Hamlet Cup (Commack, NY)
------------------------
  Edberg(1) d. Zoecke
  Korda(4)d. Gustafsson
  Pescosolido d. Camporese
  Chang(2) d. Connors  <==!!!! Walkover (Conners withdrew due to
                                         a strained left thigh)
  Volkov(7) d. Bergstrom


OTB Open (Schenectady, NY)
--------------------------
  Olhovskiy d. Stich(1) <===!!! 6-2, 7-6(7-5)
  Chesnokov(8) d. Mattar
  Ferreira(3) d. Lavalle
  Fromberg d. J Sanchez(6)
  E Sanchez(4) d. Eltingh
  Clavet(4) d. Champion
  Haarhuis(7) d. Herrera
  Morgan d. Woodforde


Mazda Classic (Carlsbad, CA)
----------------------------
  Capriati(2) d. Wiesner
  Martinez(3) d. Demongeot
  Huber(4) d. Graham
  Tauziat(6) d. Rehe
  Meskhi d. Date


Anne
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From: marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu (Dave Walker)
Subject: Re: US Open - Tuesday comments (spoilers)
Organization: U of Michigan Computer Aided Engineering Network
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:36:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.045050.19437@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
>   I caught some of the night matches.  I wish I could
>remember who Martina was playing.  Her name has slipped
>my mind.  Anyway, she is a baseliner, and all throughout

Her name is Shaun Stafford, and she was truly a joy to watch.  I've
never seen an pro player having such a good time in a Grand Slam
match, and it was good to see her make Martina work for the victory.

>the match she kept smiling and smiling, and I couldn't
>figure out why (other than her good play).  Then it
>dawned on me that she may have kept on smiling at her
>group of supporters.  It seems to include Scott Davis,
>or someone who looks a lot like him.  Boyfriend?  Husband?
>I dunno.   Martina looked shaky in this match.  She lost
>the first set 7-5.  Her opponent was able to pass her enough
>and press her enough with the groundies to bother Martina
>who has hitting poorly, making lots of errors.
>
>Martina finally broke once again and was able to hold and
>prevent the upset.   She mentioned how it was unnerving to see
>her opponent smile so much (I mean she smiled a lot, any
>point she won passing or whatever made her happy).  Her opponent
>was a qualifier ranked about 160.

There were several comments from the commentators about how all the
close first round matches and upsets  indicated a growing "depth""
(better players outside the top 10) in women's tennis, and several
players made a good case for that yesterday.

| Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS)                                |
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From: exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (Doc Exby)
Subject: jose fits in texas
Summary: big
Keywords: canseco
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:26:16 GMT


Well now I've got another reason to hate texas:
jose is there.

interesting trade, I think josie is a perfect fit for texas:
Big bat, big mouth, big head in the BIG state.
hell, texans won't even mind if he drives around with a gun
in his car down there...


 "I want all my garmonbozia"   -LMFAP
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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re: Regarding the proposed Fielder FAQ
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 13:58:47 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <24520@oasys.dt.navy.mil> hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Hambric) writes:
>In rec.sport.baseball, kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee") writes:
>
>->>We non-statheads are the Ying to your Yang.  Without our (allegedly)
>->>outrageous and statistically incorrect observations, the discussions
>->>in this newsgroup would be a lot less lively.
>
>->Hey, Steve, remind me to explain to you the concept of a "joke" sometime.
>
>Once you figure it out for yourself, please do.  ;-)
>
Here's one:  Cecil Fielder, MVP.

And please don't wink; it confuses the children.


-- 
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From: rstimets@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (robert and stimets)
Subject: Re: CY, MVP, ROY
Keywords: eat more moose
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:55:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.231243.8781@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> mjw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Wolverton) writes:

>
>>NL ROY
>>Help again...Karros is a candidate.  There are others, but I can't
>>seem to pull names right now.  Cianfrocco is fading/has faded.
>
>Moises Alou?  Brian Williams (I don't even know if he's a rookie)?
>Reggie Jefferson?  I guess Karros is probably the best one I can
        ^^^^^^^^^
Sanders?  I don't think he deserves it.  His offense is too streaky and his 
defense is too consistent.  Consistently bad, that is.

>think of also.
>
(A Reds fan...)
RStimets

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From: dfl@math.wayne.edu (David Frohardt-Lane)
Subject: Re: Who'll win the NL MVP?
Organization: Wayne State University Math Department, Detroit
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:51:47 GMT

>In article <1992Aug24.172947.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>>
>>1) Gary Sheffield.
>>
>>2) Fred McGriff.
>>
>>3) Terry Pendleton.

What about Barry Bonds?  Offensively, he's having a better year than any
of these three guys (although Sheffield is close), and he is the only
one who has any base-stealing value.  However, Sheffield plays 3B, while
Bonds is in the OF.  I realize that Sheffield will win (knowing what the
voters consider - BA,HR,RBI), but if I were voting it would be a very
tough call between Bonds and Sheffield.

Speaking of Sheffield, does his performance suggest that something like
"team chemistry" may actually exist?  I mean, he didn't get along with
the other players, and he hit poorly.  Now after leaving Milwaukee, he's
one of the top players in baseball.

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From: franjion@spot.Colorado.EDU (John Franjione)
Subject: Cone traded to Blue Jays
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:03:34 GMT

I just heard at 9:45 am (MDT) that the Mets have traded pitcher David
Cone to the Toronto Blue Jays for Jeff Kent and a player to be named
later.

They interrupted "Getting Fit with Denise Austin" to convey this news!

John Franjione
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From: hutto@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu (Brent Hutto)
Subject: Re: Fair weather fans. (was: Reds are catching up) 
Reply-To: hutto@smtc.engr.scarolina.edu
Organization: NIST Southeast Manufacturing Technology Center
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 03:20:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.233242.8621@seq.uncwil.edu>, cosper@seq.uncwil.edu (Kit Cosper) writes:
>
>	As a looong time Braves fan (can you say Biff Poceroba
>	and Bruce Sutter? ) I get a little ticked at all the
>	Braves "fans" who have come out of the woodwork in the
>	last year.  I have been watching them and rooting for
>	them for the last 12 years.  Then there are people 
>	(like my brother in law) who don't watch baseball
>	until the World Series and manage to get ahold of
>	tickets just so they can say they went.  I have
>	more respect for a die hard (insert loosing team 
>	here) fan than I do for these people who like whoever
>	happens to be winning.

    I can do even better than that!  I can make up a single sentence which
    contains the names "Bruce Sutter", "Len Barker" *AND* "Jeff Reardon".

-------------------------------
Brent Hutto
hutto@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Lies, Damn Lies, & Statistics (was Re: The Monthly Cecil Fielder Thread
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:36:43 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Sep03.111541.10927@brtph560.bnr.ca> psycho@brtpa25.bnr.ca (Paul Jezioranski) writes:
>Whoops! Forgot SACs....and maybe something else =8^) I also realized
>that RBI are dependent on other player's performances (not just an
>individual stat), but less so than, for instance, the PA vs RBI with
>RISP stat. Anyway, I digress.... 

I don't understand.  How is it that RBI's (which depend on lineup position,
# of times you come up with runners in base, etc.) are *less* dependent
on other players' performances than RBI/outs with RISP, when the latter
stat exactly removes the variation and dependence on other players'
performances that the first stat has?  Okay, both are bogus, but 
certainly not for the arguments you give.
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From: 11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay)
Subject: POLL RESULTS !!!!
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:53:13 GMT

My thanks go out to everyone who took the time to put in a vote for
their favorite teams.


The results shown below are from users who frequent or at least read
the REC.SPORT.BASEBALL newsgroup and took the time to give a vote for their
favorite team.

Here are the results.

First Place : Baltimore Orioles with 12 votes.
Second Place : Boston Red Sox with 11 votes.
Third Place : Toronto Blue Jays with 8 votes.
Fourth Place : Minnesota Twins with 7 votes.
Fifth Place : Chicago Cubs with 5 votes.

Teams with 4 votes are the Chicago White Sox, LA Dodgers, NY Mets, and
the Milwaukee Brewers.

Teams with 3 votes are the St. Louis Cardinals, Atlanta Braves, Pittsburgh
Pirates, and the Oakland A's.

Teams with 2 votes are the SF Giants, Montreal Expos, Cincinnati Reds, Seattle
Mariners, Philadelphia Phillies, Detriot Tigers, KC Royals, and the Houston
Astros.

Teams not listed did not get any vote.

There are bound to be some errors, due to either not receiving any vote on 
the deadline, or simply I never GOT the message of team support.

Quotes from people who replied will not be posted due to the excessive
work it will create and the waste of the bandwidth of this newsgroup.

Thanks,
Dan

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From: timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin)
Subject: Re: Why aren't there more baseball player actors?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:56:15 GMT

nissim@mary.fordham.edu (Leonard J. Nissim) writes:

>In article <1992Aug31.192834.18212@linus.mitre.org>, 
>sdo@hoops.mitre.org (Sean D. O'Neil) writes...
>[stuff deleted] 
>>In addition to Karras and Dryer, I can recall, off the top of my head, 
>>the following football players in acting roles:
>>Jim Brown:		THE DIRTY DOZEN (and many other films) 
>>Roman Gabriel:		(some John Wayne flick.  Roman plays his
>>			adopted Indian son.  Also stars Rock Hudson)
>>Joe Namath:		CC RIDER AND COMPANY (with Ann Margaret)
>>Terry Bradshaw:		HOOPER (a Burt Reynolds flick)
>>Mean Joe Greene:	MEAN JOE AND THE KID (or something like that.
>>			A movie version of the Coke commercial---yuk!)
>>Larry Csonka:		episode of BANACEK
>>Lyle Alzado:		THE EXTERMINATOR (again, or something like that.
>>			Lyle plays a killer who is executed but comes back
>>			to life)
>>Brian Bosworth:		(can't remember the name.  Brian plays an
>>			undercover cop.  Currently languishing on video
>>			shelves everywhere)
>>(Oakland Raider and
>>Anthony Munoz):		A lineman and a linebacker, repectively, in
>>			NORTH DALLAS FORTY
>>Mike Ditka:		episode of LA LAW (actually, this shouldn't count
>>			since he played himself)
>> 
>>In addition, I have this nagging feeling that the following players have
>>acted in something other than commercials at one time or another:
>> 
>>Bubba Smith
>>Dick Butkus
>>Franco Harris
>> 
>You forgot:  Ed Marinaro (of Minn. Vikings 1972-? and later NY Jets)
>             He acted in Hill St. Blues, is now in Sisters, and has
>             been in several TV movies, including The Diamond Trap with 
>             Brooke Shields.  

What about OJ Simpson?  

Mike Timlin
timlin@spot.colorado.edu
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From: rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez)
Subject: DAVID CONE vs CLEMENS yet again
Keywords: eat more K moose
Organization: The Hosequarium South
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:58:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.021953.828873@locus.com>, aardvark@locus.com (Warren Usui) writes:
|> >In several articles <37327@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> several people write:
|> >>
|> >>Cone for Jeff Kent and ptbnl
|> >>
|> 
|> I wonder if Roger Clemens is worth Jeff Kent and a ptbnl...
|> 

Oh no!  It rears its ugly head again.  Let this thread die.  They are
both great pitchers who throw heat.  Besides, no one will ever 
replace Jim Acker in most people's hearts.  Except maybe Bobby Witt.

Resist the temptation.
Use the force, Luke. 

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From: faa@fil.CS.CMU.EDU (Fil Alleva)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Brave fans (Boo on!)
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:21:01 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

Hey, I used to live in Philly during the Carlton/Schmidt era and the
fans were merciless! But the *fans* still came out to the ball game
even when the team was losing 100+ games a year. Go to cheer, go to
boo, but atleast go to see the team and show that you care how they do.

I live in Pittsburgh now and the fans here are really nice. I mean it's
sickening sometimes. They don't even pile on for foul balls hit into the
stands! When the team does badly they just sit there and take it in
silence. Atleast when the fans boo, the players can get pissed off at the
fans. IMHO silence is deadly. After a while the people stop coming and
you have a franchise on the move.

Another advantage of booing is to drown out the cheers of opposition fans
when they come to the park in large numbers! Now I don't advocate riding
players like the Philly fans rode Richie Allen but when a team is playing
poorly and players make bone head plays that hurt the the team, then I
say BOO ON!!!
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: CY, MVP, ROY
Keywords: eat more moose
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:52:24 GMT

In article <37402@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:
>In article <8#k-MW_@engin.umich.edu> martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara) writes:
>>AMERICAN LEAGUE MVP....
>
>>Fielder.....to make up for the last two years!
>>still leading in RBI's
>>up there in homers
>>Not the same year as the last two, but dammit...he should be rewarded!
>
>Well, we can keep having this argument, but Fielder didn't deserve
>the MVP last year nor the year before, and doesn't deserve it
>this year either.  It's the "most valuable player" award, not
>the "who gets to bat with the most men on base" award.

He didn't win either award, now did he?

Mike
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From: kirsch@epx.cis.umn.edu (Dave Kirsch)
Subject: Re: All Right:  WHO IS JEFF KENT?
Keywords: Flabbergasted Mets' Fans Demand to Know
Organization: Paul Spoljaric mean-and-nasty club
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:43:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.172554.3164@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dick1@hera.uucp ('looks like Robert' Vaughn) writes:
>
>Well, who is he???

  A quality 2B prospect that would've been stuck behind Roberto Alomar for 
about, oh, a dozen years or so. Last time I checked his BA/OBP/SLG was around
.240/.330/.440. Not too shabby for his first stint in the bigs, albeit at 3B
to replace Gruber. He hasn't looked as good as he might while at 3B; the word
I hear is that he has good lateral range for 2B, but not quite the quickness
you'd like at 3B. 

  His MLE from last year came out to a .248 BA with 33 2B and 12 HR in 440
at-bats. Add in 18 SB/6 CS in addition to 61 walks (to his MLE) and you've
got a pretty good 2B. His OBP and SLG translated to MLEs of .339 and .405 
last year. He's 24 this year; obviously, he's not another Alomar or Carlos
Baerga but he *is* a good prospect. He's got decent power and he draws plenty
of walks. He can help a team even if he's hitting .240; the Jays are proof of
that. If he manages to hit .280+ at his peak, he'll help his team a lot.  

  Personally, I'm glad for Jeff. He was gonna be buried behind Alomar and his
only chance at PT was likely to be as a utility player or part-time 3B away 
from his normal position (2B). I'll be rooting for him with the Mets. 
 
>And: is this all that a David Cone gets on the open market?

  Before free agency, yeah. And I suspect the PTBNL might be something
helpful to the Mets, as well (like one of the Jays young catchers besides
Delgado). 

>Mets' fans stunned.

  I was stunned too until I thought of it this way: Cone's probably gone out 
of New York regardless. Knowing the owners may 're-open' the CBA with the
players and that draft-pick compensation for free agents may be altered or 
abolished (I doubt this will happen), the Mets decide they have to get 
something tangible for Cone. I doubt that was a primary factor and I doubt 
they were 'trying to get rid of Cone', but it may have been in the back of 
Harazin's mind. 

-- 
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   MORE of a selective human" - Joe Average, baseball fan and media puppet
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From: savoy@hg.uleth.ca (Jim Savoy)
Subject: Re: When did Sosa of the Cubs break his foot?
Reply-To: savoy@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:41:02 GMT


> nolan@helios.unl.edu (Michael Nolan) writes:

> I was out of town and off the net for a week, how and when did Sammy Sosa of
> the Cubs break his foot?

Broke his ankle when he fouled a pitch off of it (Aug 7th). He had just come 
off the DL a week or so before that happened. Poor guy.

> How long is he out, the rest of the season?

That's what it says in USA Today.

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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: cone trade
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:16:29 GMT

In article <0095FC3D.756EFBA0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>would have been a good trade. Once again, the Mets traded a premier player for
>marginal gain. Echoes of Amos Otis for whomever and that great deal of Nolan
>Ryan for Jim Fregosi abound.

One *huge* difference: Ryan was *not* a free agent, and was younger.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Major Award Votes
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:51:47 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <4SEP199214075276@mitme5.mit.edu> kettler@mitme5.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.) writes:
>It is good to see that Luis whom I love to pick on is being given some award 
>this year. Now all we need is a list of people for the Lead Arm award which 
>includes such luminaries as Jose Awfulman (36 errors). d::-) Gee, I thought 
>that Steve Sax was the worst fielder to play for the Dodgers. At least, both 
>were home grown and not transplants.

Yes bot Offerman has a lot more range in comparison to other shortstops
than Sax in comparison to other second basemen. Sax is and always has
been a horrible second basemen, even if he never had the "season from
hell" where he couldn't throw to 1st.


Russ Smith
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