From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [soc.women, et al.]  Re: "Satanic Ritual Abuse"
Followup-To: sci.skeptic,soc.women,sci.skeptic,alt.sexual.abuse.recovery.d,soc.singles,talk.religion.misc
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:36:32 GMT

[A repost - Carl]

Newsgroups: soc.women,sci.skeptic,alt.sexual.abuse.recovery.d,soc.singles,talk.religion.misc
From: michael@neuron6.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael Rivero)
Subject:  Re: "Satanic Ritual Abuse"
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:27:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.134956.16712@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
>] The cover story on the new issue of _Ms._ magazine is 
>]                  "Believe it!
>]             Cult Ritual Abuse Exists
>]                One Women's Story"
>] 
>] Inside is a 6-page first-hand account by "Elizabeth S. Rose" (a
>] pseudonym). The article ends "If we want to stop ritual abuse, the
>] first step is to believe these brutual crimes occur."
>] 
>] The lead story on ABC's "Primetime Live" was also on ritual abuse. It
>] was much more skeptical. It pointed out that some psychotherapists
>] were getting rich finding ritual abuse almost everywhere they look.
>] The show also talked to four women who said their psychotherapists had
>] exploited them by feeding them fantasies (while ignoring their
>] truthful accounts of "ordinary" abuse.) Primetime Live also said that
>] an FBI study (dated January 1992?) concluded that there was no
>] evidence of even one ritual-abuse related murder. (Some of the
>] psychotherapists claim that tens or even hundreds of thousands of
>] ritual murders are involved.)
>
>
>p1: has anyone done any leg work to check on the more
>traditional fundamentalist/'religious right' ranting on this
>issue, and whether some of it is mere 'propoganda.' Especially
>given the recent disclosures in regards to child abuse in
>the roman catholic church.
>
>
>p5: I worry when even a jadded secular society starts planning
>witch hunts to protect us from the lack of having a decent
>International Communist Conspiracy to wave around as a BugaBoo!
>
>
  You have that one right! From out of the anti-male witchhunt we seque
right into a real withhunt!  What was the comment from Pat Robertson
about fems being lesbiams who practice witchcraft? We were all
laughing, but I don't think HE was!!!!!!!!!!!!  :(

  During the Sam Diego Grand Jury investigation into the CPS, the head
of the FBI's ritual abuse investigative team (yes, there is a special
unit) was called to testify in response to claims that the more extreme
violations of evidenciary rules and constitutional protections were
justified on the basis that there was a thriving satanic cult in San Diego
that needed to be rooted out.

  The FBI man (I believe his name was Kinney) said that in 10 years of
following up thousands and thousands of claims, he and his investigators
had yet to find any physical evidence at all of such practices other
than in the minds of various writers and others seeking a quick means to
publicity. 


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