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From: rberlin@birdland.Eng.Sun.COM (Rich Berlin)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: The Ultimate Condom
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:03:43
Organization: SunPics -- A Sun Microsystems Business
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: birdland
In-reply-to: HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu's message of 12 Jan 1993 11:38:19 -0800

> Can anyone tell me why they don't make padded condoms?

They do...but they haven't really caught on so they may be hard to
find in your area.  The normal condom manufacturers refuse to make
them because they're difficult to manufacture, unreliable, hard to put
on and take off, etc.  And apparently for every women who enjoys them
there's one who discovers the "truth" and complains about having been
misled.  :-(

But I think some clothing manufacturers are still test-marketing them.
Try "Dockers" or "Members Only."

-- Rich

p.s. Yes, yes, I know...you can't believe you read all the way through
the message just for that.  :-)



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	If I participate, knowingly or otherwise, in my sister's
	oppression and she calls me on it, to answer her anger with my
	own only blankets the substance of our exchange with reaction.
	It wastes energy I need to join with her.  And yes, it is very
	difficult to stand still and to listen to another woman's voice
	delineate an agony I do not share, or even one in which I myself
	may have participated.  -- Audre Lorde
Newsgroups: ba.singles,talk.politics.misc
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Dangerous Political Theory
Followup-To: alt.sex,soc.singles,talk.politics.misc 
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:14:14 GMT

bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
] 
] I think voting for wild, wanton women who drink a lot is a good idea.
] 
 
This Folks, is not a sound basis for Government,
or Prudent Fiscal Policy.

ciao
drieux




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Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB)
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:32:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.234231.21202@oracle.us.oracle.com> akao@.com (Adam Kao) writes:
>
>>Seems Adam is incapable of answering a question directed at him.  Or is it
>>that he doesn't know the answer?
>
>Yes, that's it.
>
>>>	What's a *plonk* anyway?  You drop something?
>
>>"Plonk" is the sound of his brain rolling out of his ear and wettly
>>hitting the floor like a pea-sized gob of snot.
>
>*plonk*, loosely, means "you are so clueless that it would take me a
>long time to explain to you how clueless you are," which applies to
>everything posted to this thread by Oleg, Desiree, and now Monica.
>
[lots of further sniping and such omitted]

And *I* say that you deserve a sound "plonk" yourself for setting up and
carrying out such a sham  IN THIS GROUP.

This group has a purpose, and it is not for you to *intentionally* start
flame-wars and play your genitalia-waving one-upsmanship games.

Maybe soc.singles enjoys this sort of crap, but I wouldn't know, having
given up on that group.

If you want to play newbie-baiting and newbie-flamer-baiting and other
such games, find a place that respects such crap.  Go to alt.folklore.urban
and ask about the word "posh" or about "snuff" films. Go to a Star Trek
group and claim some other show is/was "better".

If you want to find, plan, ask about, or discuss bay area activities
of interest to singles, then please do so here.


	Bob "I've had it up to ^HERE^ with you people" O'Bob

I *initiated* the subject line in this thread, and now I'd prefer it retired.
From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Turning 30!!
Date: Mon,  4 Jan 93 13:34:57 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

>Kenn Walker wrote
>
>I'm at the age where I'm supposed to own a home and quit running around the
>planet like I lunatic chasing good times (which I thouroughly enjoy
>doing).
>
>~~~~~~~~~
>
>I'm really angry that I share my thrill of bungee jumping to my family that
>all I hear is grief.  It's okay that my brother almost kills himself
>everyweek mountain biking.  Didn't they understand in July when I bought my
>convertable that is was something for me that I wanted to do.  I'm not in
>debt...the damn things paid for.  I think they're upset that I'm having
>more fun than they did at my age -- think I'm right!?

	What kind is your convertible? I have always wanted one, too! But the
thing is they dont make much money sense because they are always financial
liabilities (until you pay the whole thing off) and they depreciate quickly.
Financially it's a lousy deal -- but it's just so much fun! I want a red 
little miata, I am still debating if I should do that or not.

	I think it's great that people go for what they have always wanted.
"Follow your bliss" says Joseph Campbell (I was really happy to hear that
Bill Walsh quoted Campbell when he returned to Stanford). It is  very 
important. Your heart knows what makes you happy -- it's your brain that keeps
a check on your heart. (Aye, there is the rub...) Another thing that i have
always wanted is a piano -- I have wanted to have my own since I was 8 years
old.  Oh well. probably I will get the piano first this year. (So I will be
playing with it all day all night and I wont need a car to go anywhere ;-) )

>
>Then in the following weeks I will borrow friends children of
>varying age and take them to my family when I visit.  I'll let you know how
>it goes.

	One of the pranks I want to play on my family is to  borrow a friend's
son and take him to the annual family gathering, and tell everybody that
he is my illegitimate son.

	[Hmm. maybe I should do this at a boink...]
---
/bruce	
"How does it feel / to be on your own / with no direction home / like a 
complete unknown / like a rolling stone?"  - Dylan
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Having a good day...can you?
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:30:22 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <grismore-050193101048@gutzon.mv.us.adobe.com> grismore@adobe.com (Doug Grismore) writes:
|I've been reading the last set of posts this morning, and man, it's like
|people are all happied out after the holidays.  The prospect of Chicks and
|Dudes '93 is rather chilling with all this bitter sarcasm going on.
 
I was kind disapointed that the Chicks and Dudes '93 thing was being promoted
as a forum for confrontation.  I'm sure that is not the intent of the 
gathering.

|This is not a "let's all play nice, kids" post, but really, isn't anyone
|happy about things?  Is everyone but me burnt out from the holidays, having
|to deal with family, credit card limits, and ice on windshields?

First, you assume that the holidays are a happy time for all. Some people
don't have "to deal with family" because of geographical, financial, or
other limitations.  

Second, the time of the year has little to do with the intelligence content
of what some people are posting.  People can post stupidity anytime of the
year and people are going to react to it in whatever manner they feel is
justified.  

|I
|encourage anyone in a good mood to post, and tell us all "I'm having a good
|day".
 
Just be prepared to see some responses from some people who are not
having such a good day.  

|Frankly, I feel like a wierdo to be in a good mood around here.  (there, I
|opened myself up to an onslaught...let's see who responds...)  Anyway, just
|another reminder too about my "Welcoming the big 30!" party on 1/23/93 in
|Santa Clara.  At least four birthday girls and boys (2 are turning 30,
|including Trish) will be present - you should be too!  E-mail me for more
|information!
 
Looks like January might be a busy month for these kinds of things.  While 
not a joyous occasion the benefit dart tournament should be well attended and
the response to the Chicks and Dudes '93 seems to be pretty good.
From: Doug
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: DWF ISO S/D*F
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:27:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mindbender

Hi,

I'm a DWM, 29 years who just recently graduated and moved to the
Bay area.  I have blue eyes and sandy blond hair.  I weigh around 
175 and am 5'10 1/2".  I like all outdoor activities. Those I have
not done before, I'm willing to try.  I love animals and long walks
on the beach.  I enjoy people who have a good sense of humor.

I would like to meet a S/D*F who is 25-32 and lives in the SF 
Bay area.  Someone who cares about their body.  Not necessarily a 
health nut, but someone who stays physically fit and is conscious about 
the condition of their body. 
 
If you are interested in netting and possibly more, please send me some mail.


Doug
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: howeird@hpl.hp.com (Howard Stateman)
Subject: Re: Apology, and Good-Bye
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:03:33 GMT
Organization: State Home for the Mildly Amusing
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL7]

Mean Green Dancing Machine (aahz@netcom.com) wrote:
: Butbutbutbutbut.....you're not going to let an *apology* stop the
: flame-war are you?!

We really shouldn't.  I was going to flame poor miserable akao
line-by-line, but the pathos and drama of his farewell to arms was so
poignant that I was afraid it might drive him/her/it to suicide. 


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From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Needing help greeting 30!
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 93 17:02:51 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>
>        My sister just turned 40 and she has been married twice and is 
>currently single without any children.  To add to that I am approaching 40 
>and haven't been married and I don't have children.  So I can appreciate 
>the irritation that parents provide about the lack of grandchildren.  
>
	My parents never wanted any grandchildren -- my mom would say,
"Why the heck should I raise MORE children? I just want to travel the
world from now on."

	Some parents want grandchildren because they cant stand not having
any kid around them to take care of or something.  It's one of these prolonged
empty nest syndromes... without people to take care of, they finally have
to face their own life, and think about what they want to do from then on...
[And as their children we must help them make the transition...]

>
>        John
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From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Date: 10 Jan 93 11:30:46 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <1993Jan10.082123.15576@netcom.com> obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB) writes:

>	So, while I agree that it would be foolish to reach
>	a conclusion about a person based on that person's 
>	postings (some exceptions can be made), it is even
>	more foolish to ignore the fact that the person's
>	postings constitute data which should be integrated
>	into an eventual conclusion, if one is needed.

The problem arises not in the data, but in the interpretation of that data.
For example, suppose I flame Des.  What does that say about me?  Does it say
that "Ed is a jerk", "Ed is just reacting to Des' post.", "Ed is having fun",
or even "Ed is seeing how outrageous he can be"?  I don't think that a
conclusion can be reached, given the data and the nature of the data.  Even
more significant, since one knows usually very little about the folks who
post, how can *any* inference be drawn at all?  Any opinion has a good chance
of being wrong, so why go to the trouble of integrating the data when the
data is so sketchy, subjective, and open to more than one interpretation?

Oh, just in case you wanna know, I flame Des occasionally just to give her a
hard time.  No offense meant.  Unlike others, I don't take much I read here
very seriously (but exceptions have been known to have been made)  :)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Colorado/Silicon Valley  (Was: Re: Timeless beauty)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:33:41 GMT

In article <1iv5m6INNrgj@morrow.stanford.edu> mlw@cisco.com (Monica Waldman) writes:
>
>Perhaps the Coloradans were just happy to see someone spend money in their
>state.

Not unless things have changed.  I lived there for seven years about  20
years ago.  A popular bumper sticker was "Don't Californicate Colorado".
Californians were not loved.  Colorado had its share of rednecks.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Singles services - Together
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:15:15 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <76517@apple.apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.053419.24885@netcom.com> desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne) writes:
|>In article <C0q3wt.8wr@rahul.net> kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai) incoherently
|>attempts to make a point (I presume) with:
|
|>>Yeah right "Desiree" ...
|>>Yeah right ''Desiree''
|>
|>	(Actually I only quoted back those two lines (which were the only
|>two he wrote, other than the following one) because I really like to
|>hear people "Yes, Desiree, that's right"... Give me the ultimate power
|>trip...)
|
|Yes, Desiree...  (repeat 1000 times, or until you get warm fuzzy feeings)  :)
|
|BTW, on the *original* thread, I think that $1500 (or so) is a bit steep - but,
|then again, I have better things to spend my money on than giving it to some
|company to get a date/mate/whatever.  Like *furniture*...  :)

I kinda wondered about that too.  Or for Great Expectations two to three
grand will let you choose who you want to go out with.  I can choose who
I want to go with now.  Why do I need a service?
 
By the way, do always end every sentence with a smiley face?


Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: Re: Walk away, run away, was Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Followup-To: poster (WHO HAS NO DESIRE OF CONTINUING THIS DISCUSSSION)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 11:12:09 GMT

Note that this is posted to ba.singles only -- I do not read any other
groups this discussion had hit.  Not the Followup-To line, as well.

In article <1993Jan8.120125.28598@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>>not the child's fault that she changed her mind.  By having had intercourse
>>with the woman you have implicitly commited yourself to taking financial
>>responsibility for the possible result of your indulgence.
>And do you also believe that a woman who has intercourse, has consented to
>remain pregnant regardless of her wishes?

"goid" picks a bad analogy.  The woman in this case has consented to taking
responsibility for the child should the child be born and not given up for
adoption.

>When I consent to sex, I consent to *just* sex - nothing more.

Then get yourself fixed so you don't leave accidental results for which you
refuse to be responsible.

>Oh really, Oleg?  Please provide relevant legal documentation which states
>that a man's consent to the sex act is also consent to child support?

Take a look at the court cases where the decisions had affirmed this view
and at the exceptions.  You will find that the courts of this country hold
it as an implied consent that if you father a child, you are responsible for
its welfare.

>>Your parental responsibility is to the *child*, not the mother.  Because
>>unwilling victim of your actions, you have a financial obligation to
>I take it that you're Pro-Life, then...?  This wasn't an insult, just a
>question.

I am pro-child, pro-family, and pro-choice.  There are no inherent 
contradictions bewteen agreeing with the right of women to reproductive 
control and recognizing the needs of children.

>Indeed, a lot of women who agree that having sex is *not*
>a consent to forced pregnancy, also strongly agree that consenting to sex
>isn't consent to forced fatherhood, either.

If a woman decides to bring her pregnancy to term, the father of the child
is financially responsible for the child whether or not he wanted that
child.  If we had a local or federal financial support system which had
insured that the child was well fed, dressed, cared for and educated
regardless of the child's social position or the parents' marital state or
involvement, then the paternal responsibility would not be relevant.  

Unless and until such system is in place, it is our obligation as the
members of the society to take responsibility for our offsprings because
nobody else will.  It is in the interests of us as a society and us as
individuals to not be irresponsible and shortsightedly self-centered.

>Besides, I hardly think that it will get this discussion anywhere for you

The discussion is over.
-- 
Oleg Kiselev at home			...use the header to find the path
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Perfect Match (was-Re: If he bothers you...)
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:23:58 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan4.230041.10438@fico.uucp> ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley) writes:
|Well, I think Ed Carp and Will Stevees (?spelling, well you know who I
|mean) are very suited to one another.  Maybe they should hang out toget-
|her and get lives.
|
|I had just HAD to get in on this!  The score so far is Desiree 34, Ed 0.
|Looking forward to the rest of the war!

Good thing this isn't an NFL playoff game or Desiree could be in trouble.


Not.

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From: Jawara@Applelink.Apple.COM (Ron Drake)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: HappyHappyHappy! JoyJoyJoy!
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:08:27 GMT
Followup-To: ba.singles
Distribution: ca
Organization: Me, The Whole Me and Nothing But

Too serious. All this flamage. All this enmity. Adam retiring from the
stage with a Gettysburg Address-like post. Desiree telling Ed to "be
fruitful and multiply" in the Woody Allen sense. Oleg hurling smelt
from the loft. Pre-sex contracts. Post-nasal drip. PMS. Rueing thirty
instead of considering the alternative.

I've been guilty of this behavior myself. I'm also guilty of turning
over a new leaf. I side with the two Personal Ads and the woman who
said she's been happy since the new year started. The sun is shining,
I love somebody VERY much and I'm going skating!

And, as he bladed into the slough turn at Shoreline, this bright
little ditty faded with him into the distance: always look on the
bright side of life...
From: HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: PMS
Date: 6 Jan 1993 08:18:00 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

Hi Kids,

I teach a class on Monday nights and my students want to know about PMS and its
effects from a male and female point of view.

Any comments?

Thanks.

the seahag



From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:20:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Needing help greeting 30!
Organization: Shredding the water of SF Bay, HP-OCD
Newsgroups: ba.singles

I'd like to say that the old addage "life begins at 30" really does
seem to apply.  I think many realize that it is what one thinks of 
oneself that is important and not so much what others think of
you.  It seems to happen after you reach 30 (in most happy people
I know).

Have fun and hope you had a good b-day!
Kirk out
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From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Perfect Match (was-Re: If he bothers you...)
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 12:51:41 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba
  <1993Jan5.031747.27629@netcom.com> <1993Jan5.034958.531@netcom.com>
  <1993Jan5.045028.6182@netcom.com>

>In article <1993Jan5.034958.531@netcom.com> desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champa
g
>ne) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan5.031747.27629@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) 
>>blabs:
>>
>
>>is your take from all of this?  Besides the perverse pleasure you get
>>out of watching the participants go at it on the mattress?
>
>I'm going to take pictures and post the GIFs in alt.tasteless.

	Is this a blatant attempt at linking this thread with the other
thread in which people are fighting about "taste" ?	 ;-)

	 I knew it. Everything on usenet goes around in circles. I can just
hear Giambatista Vico yelling, "I told you so!"

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/bruce	
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: kyle@Ingres.COM (Kyle Smith)
Subject: Re: Translation (was: Re: Having a good day...can you?)
Reply-To: kyle@Ingres.COM (Kyle Smith)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:20:43 GMT

In article <Jan.12.10.46.53.1993.10135@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>Oh, I don't know, Mike.
>
>When I got up this morning, I felt wonderfully vibrant and refreshed.
>And YOUNG.  Not a thing could be wrong with the world:  the birds were

	Nice note indeed, Charleen. Too bad more folks don't have an attitude
	like the one that I share with you! Ain't life grand? :-)
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