HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (have clue, will travel)
Subject: Re: Rob+John+JOA
Originator: jecoleb@c00003-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: spooge
Reply-To: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Society
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:02:01 GMT


botelle@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Justin Botelle) writes:
>I've been thinking about Rob's comment about myself and Brian (why, I don't
>know), and I think it would be interesting to see how well Rob and John
>would do with a poor supporting cast.  

Hmmm... so, according to your subject line, The Janitors and I qualify as a 
poor supporting cast.  I'll reserve comment for now...  

>Maybe I could drag up the bottom four of Penn's INL team last year.  See
>if they could prevent a genocide against Xgolems.

(looks at the record book--yep, I was among the bottom 4 on UPenn last year)

Why are my ears burning?  I'm not THAT bad, Justin. :-P

>But I know Rob wouldn't have the balls to play on a weak team.

Heh heh, I have no such weakness.  I had an offer to join the Cartel, but
nooooooooooooooooooo... I had to go with the underdog motif.  

Let it be known:  JOA here extends a hearty welcome to Rob, should he choose
to join us in a scrimmage against XGolems.  (Or, if you really want to have
fun, I'll make it Rob, John, me, and 5 assorted NCSUers.)

The carnage will be impressive.

			--Commodore Video Sex Pope, NCSU
			--"run to the window, they're coming to get you	
		        -- hide in the basement, they're coming to get you
			-- flee to the rooftops, they're coming to get you
                        -- don't go outside, no--don't let them get you"

What IS the time-to-genocide record, anyway?
-- 
----------jeff the wonder llama, jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu

------"I am a penis. Worship me."--lead singer of rock band Bicycle Face,
     vainly attempting to gain attention of the crowd at the Cat's Cradle 
     in Chapel Hill, while opening for Mojo Nixon & The Toad Liquors
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: wk5w@mtaac.bme.Virginia.EDU (William Thang Katz)
Subject: Re: INL play - PLEASE READ (esp INL reps)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:18:21 GMT

In article <90713@netnews.upenn.edu> paulsen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (FreeKill) writes:
>I have a couple problems with the INL
>
>A) I was very astonished on saturday when the server allowed my sunborg in
>	without a problem.  This seems very bad, especially since I don't
>	respond to any pig calls.  I can turn off the obvious features,
>	and still have a distinct advantage over other players.
>
Ouch!  Now I can't use my Vorpal Borg which is brings me from complete
newbie to only clue-impaired.  No wonder IAState could use borgs :-)
(cmon .. i put a smily face after that one)

>B) Side Salad seemed very definite on their statement that they can use
>	whatever names they please during an INL tourney.  I seem to
>	remember the rules stating specifically that the most well-known
>	name must be used.  I think the games should have more to do with
>	skill than trying to guess who a person is.  I also remember that
>	last year, we were told in no uncertain terms that if we changed
>	our names for a game, that we should consider that game a forfeit.
>	Strange that CMU doesn't have to abide by the rules...
>
Side Salad doesn't bother me as much since I know all of their team needs
to die.  Teams with fewer super clue, though, definitely have an
advantage at hiding their well-known players since I would selectively ogg
those players.

>C) I would also like to have some assurance that teams like CMU don't get
>	other people to watch their games.  Last year, I and several other
>	players were forbidden from watching other teams play.  My even
>	considering it was called cheating.  CMU even has a recorder set
>	up so that they can watch games later in the day.  

COOL!!  Can I have one ... really!!??  I'd love to be able to do an
instant replay on who did what and why.  This would have been really
valuable when we were splitting up the Angry Men.  Wish I knew about 
it then.  Whoever has it, send me some e-mail.

-Vorpal Gandhi
 Manager of Angry Men
From: muro@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (michele muro)
Subject: HELP !!!!!!WHAT'S A BLESSED BINARY ?
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:56:22 GMT

I joined just the other day the host calvin.usc.edu , but I could not 
enter the game , or better I was destructed automatically as soon as
I choosed a team , and then appeared the writing : "Use a blessed binary"
I would like to know what's that and how can I solve this problem
Ciao , muro@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it
From: paulsen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (FreeKill)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: Official INL 3.0 Binaries
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:50:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: netnews.90866
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1a948eINNsdt@agate.berkeley.edu> tom@soda.berkeley.edu (Tom Holub) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.022917@IASTATE.EDU> isae@IASTATE.EDU  writes:

>I am reasonably sure that there is a blessed borg at Iowa State.  Once, 
>several months ago, an Iowa State player (with one of those helpful 
>dv02481@iastate.edu mail addresses) sent me the message "I lost the
>blessed borg you sent me.  Could you send it again?" (this was on
>Bronco).  I put some messages to Terence in the log, don't know if
>he ever read 'em.  It was a case of mistaken identity, BADLY mistaken
>identity.

Jeez, I can't believe I forgot this guy's real name.  I used to talk to him
quite a bit.  Yes, he did have a blessed borg.  I've seen him use it.  It was
quite humorous seeing it on bronco.  He never really used it during normal
non-borg hours.

Sadly, this person dropped out from ISAE after too much netrek playing.  Let
that be a warning to all nettrekkers.  He did say that he was gonna leave the
borg to ISAE as is farewell gift.

BTW: the player's name was Scout Popcorn


Brian
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: esj@cs.brown.edu (Eugene Santos Jr.)
Subject: Re: TOFW vs. Xgolems
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:02:33 GMT

In article <4enuGoi00VAwMrz0UL@andrew.cmu.edu> "Timothy C. Worsley" <tw1r+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.netrek: 4-Oct-92 Re: TOFW vs. Xgolems
>"Joseph E. Beck"@andrew. (2160)
>
>> The evidence seems pretty clear.  Our ratios sucked while their ratio
>> was over 1.5.  It's obvios they must have been using borgs, I can't
>> think of any other reason for this discrepancy in the ratios.  It was
>> so frustrating to walk up to their ships, unload a full strike and
>> have them blow you away over and over again.  Their weapons seemed to
>> do much more damage than ours, and their ships could take so much
>> more punishment.  (a big smiley for the humor impaired)
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	The problem with a post like this is that as hard as you try to make
>sure that everyone knows it's a joke, someone will think it's serious.  
>
>**!!IT WAS A JOKE!!**
>
>	Just trying to avoid a flame-war.
>
>ZZnew guy
>Ringman -- Unofficial official of Xgolems

Um, anyone who can't see this and "guess" it was a joke deserves to
be red in the face (cause where else would all the blood flow? Their
brains certainly don't seem to need much.. Better yet, maybe they'll
get so frustrated with netrek and quit. We can all be happier without
the baggage this person-type brings along during a game.


Lt. Cmdr Plasma, Lack of

SMACK!

P.S. I'd like to see those Side Solids ogg me now for "infringing on
their trade mark".

uucp:	...!{ihnp4,decvax}!brunix!esj		Eugene Santos Jr.
bitnet:	esj@browncs.bitnet			PO Box 1910, Computer Science
arpa:	esj%cs.brown.edu@relay.cs.net		Brown University
csnet:	esj@cs.brown.edu			Providence, RI 02912
From: tom@soda.berkeley.edu (Tom Holub)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: RESPONCE TO PAUL BROOKS
Date: 2 Oct 1992 10:54:37 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <2ACC1EF5.17263@ics.uci.edu> hadley@thoth.ics.uci.edu (Tedd Hadley) writes:
)>In article <197bkvINN50c@hurricane.ksu.ksu.edu> preddy@hurricane.ksu.ksu.edu (Prasanth Reddy) writes:
)>>
)>>Where are the ladies?
)
)   That reminds me ...  several times I ran into this extremely good player
)   on bezier called Charlene.  Now after getting destroyed by this player
)   quite a few times I said to myself, this is a Berkeley Admiral in DRAG,
)   dammit.  But the player denied being that, and furthermore, denied being
)   of the male persuasion.  (This person's login was one of those completely
)   unrememberable concatenations of random numbers and letters Berkeley is
)   well-known for  :-)  Can anyone confirm this player's gender?

Charlene is/was the infamous Freeman (the original doosh-man).
Haven't seen him around much this semester but he's still here.
 -Mojo

(hey Tedd, why do you posts always have Distribution: rec?  our
news server rejects followups if it's like that.  I know, I know, I
should check the header first)
From: jjudy@argon.berkeley.edu (Jack W. Judy)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: useful c-shell command line editing of MS II (Oops! -> FIXED!)
Date: 5 Oct 1992 02:24:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: argon.berkeley.edu

Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: useful c-shell command line editing of MS II (Oops! -> FIXED!)
Summary: 
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Keywords: 

Apparently I was missing the end of the one of my aliases!!!!!
Sorry about that and here is the fix....

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I find the following simple command line filters useful to remove
the less usefull info of the outstanding MS II.

Add them to your .aliases or .login files if you think they're useful.

alias trek? telnet charon.amdahl.com 3521 | grep "h " | grep -v "Nobody playing"
 | grep -v "Not responding"'
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <--- missing end of this this command!

alias trekwho telnet charon.amdahl.com 3522 | egrep '^Server:|^.. ..  ...'

-Jack (LURI)
From: tom@soda.berkeley.edu (Tom Holub)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: INL Scheduling (new idea for INL)
Date: 27 Sep 1992 23:14:57 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1a5ehvINN5o2@agate.berkeley.edu> beorn@berkeley.edu writes:
)
)The only time constraint in boxing is how frequently you have to
)defend your rank.  Seasons are irrelevant.  If you can field
)a team this month and you are the top rated contending team, then
)you get a shot at the championship team.  If the championship
)team resigns, a mini tournament among the top 4 teams could be held.

One of the concepts the Council discussed was a ladder system for
scheduling games.  It has the advantages you mention; it would make
scheduling somewhat easier.  The reason we didn't go with it was
because it has all the flaws that pro boxing does; a team could sit
on the top of the ladder and decline challanges from good teams,
playing only the patsies (see Evander Holyfield, or is that Evader?).
Also, how would you decide which games are home and which are away?
If you alternate home and away games, nobody will want to play the
home game against the top team; if you choose randomly, the top team
could get 4 or 5 home games in a row.  

The main problem, though, was that it would be too easy to be
schedule scums.
 -Tom
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: exodus@IASTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: SS at XG stats
Reply-To: exodus@IASTATE.EDU
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:59:27 GMT




   Guess this really isn't much of a surprise. Oh well, seems like the nice
guys always finish second, or somewhere down there. Beware, evil is alive and
well in the netrek multi-verse, and it's name is Side Salad.
From: stimpy+@cmu.edu (Tomato Boy)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: Looking for dec client binary
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:38:26 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


 leesj@sgi.elec.uq.oz.au sez:
#
# I found a udp client binary at pittslug.sug.org
# for the DEC's but it's only for the bronco server
#


(scratches head)
isn't "-h" in the FAQ?
:)

(you need to run "netrek -h server.name.host")

--Rick
"Bronco Netrek Server. You will never find a more wretched hive of
scum and villainy." -- Admiral Kenobi (aka Terence Chang)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann)
Subject: Re: new ways of showing status (was Re: Lack of borg hosts)
Organization: Ziebmef home away from home
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:31:48 GMT

"Joseph E. Beck" <jb8n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
[about new client features:]
| >and shield energy shown by color of shields 
| Kind of difficult if you're not on a color monitor.

 Use solid/dashed/more dashed shields as a status indicator.  I stuck
shield strength (shield colour), damage level (ship colour), and fuel
level (the colour of your team letter -- I ran out of good places) into
my sort-of-borg, and found it kind of convenient, sort of a HUD
display.  Setting what level to switch colours off takes work, and I
never did get it right to my satisfaction (I suspect that it needs to
be ship-specific).

 Personally, one of the things I enjoyed most about hacking my borg was
not spiffo-neato kill-people-fast features, but tweaking the user
interface to see if I could do better. There's a lot of room for
improvement in the default client, and it's a real pity so few people
work on it. Perhaps the result drastically changes the flow of the
game, but I don't think so (note that I don't consider the popular
'show army numbers by planet' feature to be a user interface tweak).

--
	"This is what separates us system programmers from the
	 application programmers: we can ruin an entire machine and
	 then recover it, they can only ruin their own files and then
	 get someone else to restore them"	- Geoff Collyer
cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu	           ...!{utgpu,utzoo,watmath}!utgpu!cks
From: beorn@elk.Berkeley.EDU (Beorn Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Nasty server/client "Feature"
Date: 4 Oct 1992 23:42:58 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: elk.berkeley.edu


Well, in "DPM"'s loss to LAR a really nasty "feature" has come to
light.

By the way, please note that DPM has actually voted it's name to "12 Angry
Men: The Next Generation", but keeping in character with our team philosophy,
someone is not on the ball.  I hope we can still change the name, as it
was chosen by someone not even on the team!  Of course, we may be re-voting
this to "Key Stone Cops: The Next Generation".  But anyway, on to the
problem . . .

OK, scanning the (incomplete!) message log, it seems we may have been taken
in the LPS by a little known "feature".

Due to a combination of world-class lag and major screw-ups, 12AM:TNG was down
to an LPS in a corner planet.  The obvious thing for defenders to do in
this situation is to declare peace so we can refuel (the LP was corner but
neither fuel or repair).  Thus we can defend and ogg without getting hung
out (to) dry.

So the opposing team decides to confuse the matter by having some of their
team declare peace too -- so we waste fuel shooting at peaced people.
Or so we thought . . .


The real story is this:  if the defense has mostly declared peace, the offense
can get a kill off of one of the un-peaced defenders (or maybe by detting
torps over one of your guys or whatever).  Then the at-peace attacker gets
armies, swings in cloaked to the planet where he can't be shot at by the
at-peaced defenders, hits the "x" key, turns on the war window, and declares
war.  Instantly the armies are dropped!!  (Just like with bombing).

So you get into the last planet for free, no need to waste fuel dodging,
and the only time to cloak is to prevent tractoring once you are
on the planet.

Of course I tested this on a regular server before posting.

On discovering this, I became quite angry.  C'est la gere?  I think
the netrek world should consider a change, but now that I am aware of
this matter (referred to by the team that used it as a "bug"!) I
think I could at least live with it.  I mean, we were in an LPS
anyway, so it's not like a change is going to affect the INL standings.


	Beorn (aka Snidly)


PS   Actually, our team isn't in this INL thing to win any games.  On
	the contrary, it's meant to get three or four true addicts
	to kick the habit out of frustration.  At least, that's the
	only thing I can figure out.

PPS Hi guys! :)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: genie@netcom.com (Gene Choi)
Subject: CMU bashing by Mojo
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:39:04 GMT


I'd like to add a couple of comments about Mojo's comments
about CMU.

From talking to him once in a while, I believe that Mojo's
outlook on !SOME! CMU players = major weenie.  I know
that he does respect some players though...

His turning point against CMU was when the 2 CMU teams at the
SINL decided to call it a tie (or something like that).  He
was really pissed off that after all the time he put into
the SINL, and after extending Stilleto's team for completing
the games, they just raised their hands and said "TIE".
I'm sure CMU had some good reasons for doing this though.
It just never came out that way when it was first announced.

Anyway, this is my own opinion, interpreting what Mojo says
once in a while...

Personally, I think many CMU players are good.  So let's just play
together or against each other and have fun.

The end.

Gene
aka Ginger Lynn, etc.
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon)
Subject: UIOWA borg server (was Lack of a borg host)
Rom: milutz@icaen.uiowa.edu (Mike Lutz)
Organization: ICAEN
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:31:33 GMT

(Repost from Sun, 30 Aug 1992)


Hiya all! I have had a netrek server up and running here for about
a month now, but up until a few weeks ago I didn't know what I was
going to do with it, so sence rwd has limited its borg hours by quite
a bit I'm going to make it into a borg server.

The stats:

- The servers name is Miles Post (If you look at the hostname you'll
  see why I didn't go with that...) -h netrek.icaen.uiowa.edu -p 2592

- it is a standard bronco server

- it will always allow borgs, but if a number of humans start playing
  I will make borg disadvantaged hours (I will do things to make borg
  much less usefull)

- Open 5pm till 9am on weekdays and all the time on weekends (That might
  have to change)

and lastly...
 
- On friday nights something wierd will happen...


The people I would like to see use the server are people that use borgs
and are good with them, I'm not setting this up with the intent of it
being the clueless's hang out. (Tho I'm sure the clueless will find it 
from time to time...).  It think it would also be cool for human players
that really want to test there skill, and as I said, if there is a number
of humans that start using the server I will put in things to fool borgs
and make then less useful, tho I will never have non borg hours...

If there are players on, on friday nights around 9pm I will make something
wierd happen.  I like to play with the game and try and spice it up, so
friday nights will be my offical time for that.


-Mike Lutz (MikeL)
(p.s. The server is "netrek.icaen.uiowa.edu" port 2592)
(                or 128.255.21.58 port 2592           )
From: ac999126@umbc8.umbc.edu (ac999126)
Subject: Re: RESPONCE TO PAUL BROOKS
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:05:36 GMT

In article <92Oct1.164311edt.9053@rock.db.toronto.edu> wang@db.toronto.edu (Huaiqing Wang) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.190537.2848@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs331333@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs331333) writes:
>>In article <717898847.7775.0@unix5.andrew.cmu.edu> Tomato Boy <stimpy+@cmu.edu> writes:
>>>new lady netrek player writes:
>>>
>>># 
>>>#  But, alas, I try.  If you would have any good advice or important facts on 
>>># tactic and strategy,etc, I'd be happy to read about them.
>>># 
>>># Madeleine...alias Headwound Harry @ fife
>>>
>>>Oh, Madeleine, I'd love to discuss tactics and strategy with you.
>>>What are you doing Saturday night??
>>>
>>>
>>>--Rick
>>>I promise not to ogg you.  :)
>>
>>
>>	Hmm...  Saturday night is Madeleine's ( a.k.a. Head Wound
>>Harry ) 1 year "more than just friends" anniversery with me. (a.k.a.
>>Commander Inq).
>>	The anonymous friend she mentioned in her article was me, she
>>didn't want to say it, and I told her she just wanted to be 'net hit
>>on'. <grin>  So she'll probably be happy now. <double grin>
>>	Which brings me to a question, how many netrek couples are
>>there?  I think it's a good thing, mutuall support and such, also good
>>team play.  On the way back to the dorm we are either singing of our 
>>victories, or one is comforting the other on their crappy play.
>>(Which I had a large amount of yesterday.)
>>                                      Joseph (a.k.a. Inq @ fife)
>
>
>Let me see, there is you and Madeleine, there is Felix and his gf.
>That's about the only two I know so far. My gf played twice, does
>that count? She managed a grand total of 3 wins and 26 losses on
>discovery as a guest. :)
>
>Similiar to Madeleine, she loves to be "net hit on", just to make
>me jealous. :>
>
>	-- Chen Wang
>
>Ps: What? You *ALREADY* have a BoyFriend? No more Mr. Nice Guy! Ogg! Ogg!
>    Ogg! ... Doosh! ... There, I feel better. ... Next! 


Hey, this is Madeleine, and it looks as though it is time I get a chance
to say something about all this.  First of all:  Rick - Saturday night I
will be involved in a private discussion about tactics and strategy with
my own tutor, Commander Inq.(Inquisitor).  Sorry.  But I look forward to
playing the same team with you.  What is your netrek name anyway??  Do you
ever play @ fife?  
Spaceman Spiff - Thanks.  I will check it out.
Chen Wang - Your girlfriend sounds like an excellent player!  I think I did
little better than she did on my first night playing.
From: rjones@itchy.dsd.es.com (Ray Jones - Perp)
Subject: Re: IAState team borgs way to victory! Film at 11...
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 09:35:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.233840@IASTATE.EDU> exodus@IASTATE.EDU writes:
>  Redshirt is right. People ought to take that seriously, not as a handicap.
>That scout team was nastier than h*ll. Their response time was incredible. Just
>keep laughing bozos, you'll probably end up getting beat by that scout team. I
>don't think they do it just for laughs.

Well, actually, we do :)

Ray
--
                                          rjones@dsd.es.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek