From: dethomas@amherst.edu (The Human Torch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: X-force
Date: 2 Apr 92 06:25:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: amherst.1992Apr2.022540.1
Organization: Grucci Fireworks Inc.

In article <31MAR199215524321@zeus.tamu.edu>, j0d7858@zeus.tamu.edu (DABELIC, JERKO) writes:
> If you all do not like the comic then do not buy it.  All this inane useless
> bickering is what ruins creative talent.  It is people like some of you who
> caused the great exodus from marvel.  For example every issue of Spider-Man
> I would read, "McFarlane an artist you are, a writer you are not!"  It is no
> wonder why he left.  Liefeld is young!  He has a long time to grow and mature.
> Hell, I'd give anything to be 19 and drawing some of my favorite mutants.  If
> you do not like what he does then drop the comic and shut the hell up!!! 

First of all, most of the people who do not like the comic _do_not_ buy it. 

As for the "inane useless bickering," I think you need to take a closer look at
it. Most of the comments are actual critcisms of the work of Liefield and
company. 

There is no way that "inane baickering" can ruin creative talent. However,
intelligent criticism can destroy lousy work. The past comments about McFarlane
are, IMHO, valid. I think he's a hell of an artist, but he couldn't write his
way out of a wet paper bag. The wonder is why so many people bought his tripe
and proclaimed it good. 

As for Liefield, yes, he is young, but that is no excuse for bad writing and a
complete lack of understanding of the concept of perspective. *If* I felt he
could write, then I would agree with you. Unfortunately, he has difficulty with
the concept of consistency within his own characters, and events. That is
something so basic to any writing that I have to say that his age is in fact a
detriment to him, because anyone his age ought to have learned that writing a
story requires that you remember what you said has happened before!!! 

Perhaps if he were put on a book where he did not have so much creative control
he would learn the things he needs to know, but as it is, he is behaving like a
spoiled brat writing-wise, saying "these are my characters, I can do what I
want," despite the fact that past history says that they can't do that. As for
his art... I will leave that one alone. He just needs to spend some time in a
basic drawing class.

The basic point of my ravings is that we, the readers can not be held
responsible for the ruining of creative talent, because we are the people who
will reward it. We can only destroy _uncreative_ work. If it is good in any
way, we will help it succeed, but if it sucks it only has itself to blame for
it's failure. 

Besides the only reason I've seen for the "great exodus" is a desire to make
more money. How are we responsible for that?

Oh well, that's enough rambling on my part. I will look this over in the
morning and correct any *really* dumb things I've said... :-)

later days!
--dt

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Dennis E. Thomas, Vagrant	   |    Amherst _still_ hasn't figured out 
dethomas@amhux1.amherst.edu 	   |     what do do with me, how could I 
roach@aux1.amherst.edu		   |    possibly presume to speak for them?
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