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From: X045KF@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Kimberly Faircloth)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Day Care Worker Pay Scales - Shameful!
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:32:16 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <1992Apr13.172847.19894@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
statar@cbnewse.cb.att.com (sherry.l.tatar) writes:
 
>> DAY CARE WORKERS GET LOW PAY, FEW BENEFITS
>
The daycare center I worked at was owned by a tight-wad.  The majority of
the care workers didn't make more than minuimum wage. Isn't surprising when
she (the tight-wad) had a fit about min. wage going to $4 and then $4.25/hr.
*AND* if you happened to get tied up passed the time that you regularly got
off, you *DID NOT* get compensated for it.  On top of that, sometimes you
had more children than the state allows for each worker.  I could go on and
on about that place.  Some of the workers did not have any business working
there.  *I* certainly would have fired one woman in particular just b/c of
the way that she treated some of the children.  She definitely played favorites
and showed it more than she should have.  And I got treated badly b/c I was
actually making progress with the trouble-makers that weren't on her favorite
list. One child comes to mind, Bryson, he's now 4 and a definite behavior probl
em.  But, I believed it was b/c he was bored (ie. a bit on the intelligent side
) and the form of punishment used on him did not affect him.  He's was such
a loving child when you gave him a chance.  And that's what I did.  I used
a form of negative punishment (taking away something that he valued) and that
worked wonders!!! I would use things such as his name card on which I would
paste stars everytime he did something right and just had to threaten to take
it away when he was on the verge of a serious tantrum.  But the point of
mentioning this child was that as soon as I got him under control, JoAnn(the
woman I would like to fire) couldn't wait to get him in her classroom (which
would be after he turned 4).  Needless to say, he's back to his old self again.
*sigh*
 
Well, now, I have just given reason as to why not to give workers raises.  I
think more attention should be paid to the experience (education etc.) than
anything else.  But just a bit of advice before I send this, if you choose
to put a child in daycare, PLEASE take notice to how the workers talk to the
children etc.  JoAnn had a tendency to insult the children. I guess she thought
by telling them that they are bad would make them better. *NOT*!!!!!!!!!
 
I apologize for the rambling...but I have seriously considered reporting them t
to the state and labor board.  Just since I went back to school, I never had
time to think about it.  I sure would love to see how much that ol' tight-wad
would have to shell out in retro-active compensation. *evil laughter*
 
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: beth@col.hp.com (Beth Vail Jones)
Subject: Re: Ladle Rat Rotten Hut
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:09:11 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

"Ladle Rat Rotten Hut" is from the book

    _Anguish_Languish_
    by Howard L. Chace

copyright 1956 by Prentice-Hall, Inc.  Library of Congress Catalog card
number 56-8160 (if that's any help!).  Totally out-of-print.

We found a copy of this slim charmer in the library at University of
Colorado in Boulder.  The book includes the following Furry Tells:
Ladle Rat Rotten Hut, Guilty Looks Enter Tree Beers, and Center Alley.
There are also Noiser Rams (including Marry Hatter Ladle Limb, Oiled
Murder Harbored, and others), Fey-Mouse Tells (including Casing Adder
Bet, a favorite of my parents), and Lath Thing Thumb Thongs!, such as
Fryer Jerker, Hormone Derange, and other familiar tunes.

There are also a number of humorous cartoons.  One shows a worm talking
to a bird.  The worm says, "Europe oily disk moaning!"  To which the
bird replies with a sneer, "Doily board cashes or warm!"

Mr. Chace reportedly developed his idea of Anguish Languish during
World War II, when he speculated that what with everything ELSE being in
short supply (such as sugar, metal, etc.), why not economize on words
and make all words serve more than one purpose (or is that porpoise?).
Why be wasteful?

Here are a couple of Mr. Chace's well-known Noisier Rams:

    SINKER SUCKER SOCKS PANTS

    Sinker sucker socks pants
    Apocryphal awry
    Foreign turnkey blank boards
    Bagged inner pyre.
    Whinny pious orphaned
    Door boards bay-gander sink.
    Worsen dizzy jelly ditch
    Toe setter furry kink?

    Door kink worse inner conning horse
    Conning otters moaning.
    Door coin worse inner panda
    Aiding burden honing.
    Door mate worse inner gardening
    Hankering ardor cloys.
    A lung camel blank board
    An sniffed offer noise!


    PITTER PAPER

    Pitter Paper peeked or parker peckled paupers.
    Or packer peckled paupers Pitter Paper peeked.
    Aft Pitter Paper peeked or packer peckled paupers,
    Ware aster packer peckled paupers debt Pitter Paper peeked?

Beth Jones
Hewlett Packard, Colorado Springs Division
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: andy@access.digex.com (Andrew M Cohn)
Subject: Mysterious headaches
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:29:17 GMT

Our 6 year old son "suffers" from constant headaches. They are located
on each side of his head, directly above the ears. He never mentions them
or complains about them unless you ask him. The "headaches" have 
absolutely no effect on his otherwise normal behavior and mood. A sinus
xray (frontal) shows nothing. The only other thing for us to do is
have a CAT scan, which his doctor suggests we not bother with. The 
possibility of the headaches being psychological has been discussed,
but I think it is unlikely. We would think that if someone suffered
from constant headaches, day after day, they would be affected by
them in many ways, but this is simply not the case. The doctor thinks
we should just ignore the matter. Has anyone out there had similar
experiences? Would like to hear about them, via E-mail to me. Thanks!

-Andy
	
Newsgroups: misc.kids,alt.satanism
From: hgs@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Harry Salvini)
Subject: huh?  --> Re: The Satanic Purpose.
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:39:22 GMT

In article <htrjqlr.valentin@netcom.com>, valentin@netcom.com (Valentin Pepelea) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Apr8.152043.21643@panix.com> rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding)
> writes:
> >
> >A Satanist must appease no god but himself.
> >A Satanist's only purpose is to live his/her life as he/she
> >sees fit.
> >
> >A Satanist chooses to doubt, rather than believe.
> 
> May I assume that you are not a satanits? Neither am I, but I do not describe
> derogatorily other peoples religion. And I rarely play the Devil's Advocate.
> 
> I'd just like to remind you that Christians make sacrifices in the middle of
> the night and eat babies' flesh. Fortunately the emperor is throwing them to
> the lions in the Coliseum.

Here we go again.  This is my opinion, but others DO share it.

---> Why are we discussing the make-up of religion in misc.kids? <---

Thanks in advance for not cross-posting to misc.kids.  (this is in m.k.
as well as a.s. because of prior postings).

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|  v    BTW: LORAL doesn't have anything to do with my opinions.    v  |
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cmaher@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Cynthia L Maher)
Subject: Re: Hernia in 1 yr old
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:52:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.151448.13437@clpd.kodak.com> staffan@serum.kodak.com writes:
>The pediatrician diagnosed an enguinal (sp? can't read his writing! :-) hernia >at our son's 12 month check-up.  This hadn't been detected before, but it
>turns out there is a history of it in my wife's family (her father, brother,
>nephew).
>
>The doctor explained that it was very common, and that the corrective surgery
>is done on an out-patient basis.  I'd like to hear if anyone has gone through
>it with their infant.  We will be scheduling an appointment with a surgeon
>for a second opinion, but I'm still interested in other parent's comments.


Our now seven-year-old son had the same problem, but he was even younger
when he was diagnosed (about four months, I think).  It has been a long time,
but the two things that stand out in my mind about the whole experience are:

1)  having to withhold feeding from him prior to the surgery.  This was
    absolutely horrible!  The surgery was delayed, so although it was
    originally scheduled for early in the morning, it was not started
    until the afternoon.  Of course, for this entire time Brendan was
    unable to nurse, and he was **starving**!

2)  watching them actually take him away to the surgery.  We were allowed
    to stay with him at all times except when they were actually performing
    the surgery.  The moment when they came and took him away was one of
    the hardest in my life (since experienced once or twice more, for ear
    tubes on Brendan and for another minor surgical procedure on Casey).

On the whole, though, it wasn't too bad.  We were there in the morning and
home by five o'clock that afternoon.  Brendan was feeling fine not too long
after the surgery (as soon as he was allowed to nurse!).  I am assuming that
your hospital will let you stay with your child until the surgery and 
immediately after it.  I think the whole experience is a lot less painful
for everybody if you can do this.

Good luck!
From: lauraf@notavax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Growth rates
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:40:29 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

In article <92100.161632CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu> <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <2728@master.CNA.TEK.COM>, judyd@pendragon.CNA.TEK.COM (Judy E.
>Drake) says:
>>  stuff deleted
>>  I read somewhere that growth only takes place when
>>they're asleep--is this true?
>>
>>Just curious!
>>
>>Judy Drake
>
>A few months ago my husband saw some report of infants growing as much as
>2 inches overnight.  He read it out loud to me one evening, so he wasn't
>making this up, but we can't seem to find the source again.  Does anyone
>else remember reading something like this, somewhere, sometime?  It's one
>of those fun facts I would like to be able to toss out at appropriate
>times.

There was an article a in Science News a while ago. I dont remember seeing 
anything about 2 inches overnight, but the gist of the article was that 
scientists had determined that growth does go in spurts and not gradually
as they had previously assumed. That amazed me, anyone with a child has
probably noticed that an article of clothing will fit fine for a period of
time, and then overnight a child will suddenly be too small for it. It 
never seems to be a gradual thing to me. I was surprised that they ever thought
it was anything but growth spurts.

Laura Floom
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cathyn@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (The Crystal Singer)
Subject: car capsules, hoods etc.
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 09:30:28 GMT


Our baby is due in about six weeks time and we've just finished
a series of parenting classes at the hospital.  One of the things
which came up was the whole issue of baby capsules.  We found out
that you should never ever carry the baby around in them, they
should only be used to transport the baby in the car.  What really
horrified me was the revelation that added extras like capsule hoods
and pretty frills and pillows reduce the safety of the capsule in the
car (especially the hood, because it reduces the air flow to the
baby).  Why do major stores continue to sell these attatchments if
they aren't safe?  I remember shopping around in a few places and
actually being told I _needed_ to buy a hood for the capsule to keep
the sun off the baby's face.  I had no idea that carrying the baby
around in the capsule was so bad.  The stores certainly don't tell
you and I continually see people doing it.

I also heard that the car capsules are guaranteed to be safe up to
80 km p/h.  I heard it from another parent, so I don't know how
true it is.  Does anyone out there know?

BTW, Babo, if you're out there ... hi!  I sort of have internet
access again, occasionally, sometimes, in a way.  I couldn't
remember your email address so I couldn't mail you.



Cathy Newberry 

(Only six weeks and five days to go!!!)

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: smudd@nsfuvax (Mudd, Stephanie)
Subject: Re: An announcement
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Mathematics Computer Network, University of Oklahoma
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:18:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.213915.17556@u.washington.edu>, wendy@milton.u.washington.edu (Wendy Grant) writes...
> 
>  Some of you may remember that I asked questions about laparoscopies
>last summer and then asked for success stories with pergonal in
>January. Lots of you sent me mail and asked for an update sometime
>down the road. How's this for an update-
> 
>  I am pregnant (5 weeks)!
> 
>  I still can't believe it but am slowly adjusting to the idea. I
>got pregnant after my second course of pergonal and 2 1/2 years
>of infertility. So there is hope out there for others!
> 
>  Look for a birth announcement in mid-December (and probably questions
>about pregnancy before then)!
> 
>Wendy Grant Walter        wendy@u.washington.edu




Congratulations Wendy!!!

I know how hard it is to want something so bad and not be able to have it.  I
have been trying to get pregnant for a little over a year now and no luck.  I
have been put on Clomid and have charted my temp. for over 6 months now.  I
have a appointment on Monday with a new OB/GYN Fertility Doctor.  Maybe
something good will come from my appointment.  Enough about me though.  

I hope you have a very good pregnancy and that everything is perfect for you.
Good luck!  Let me know how it turns out.

Stephanie
smudd@nsfuvax.math.uoknor.edu
From: stb@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Stephanie Bodoff)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:41:44 GMT
Subject: Re: At what age is day care appropriate?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: misc.kids

In article <1992Apr9.073354.14970@lmpsbbs.mot.com> leeba@mot.com (Leeba
Salzman)writes:

	(lists of pros and cons of working versus staying home deleted)

	Anyone else out there have lists of their own? 

My additions to the lists posted include:

   MY Working Mom summary
   Hate:

Missing seeing my daughter experience something for the first time.

   MY Stay at Home Mom summary
   Hate:

   5) Financial pressure.

As a corollary to this point I would add: the coupling of financial and
emotional support in a single individual and loss of eventual earning
power. Like Leeba I have no desire to have a high-powered career, but I am
very disturbed by the situation of women who give up jobs and then become
financially destitute when their husband dies or abandons them or who are
compelled to stay in destructive relationships for financial reasons.
A related problem is when a family's decisions and lifestyle (e.g. where to
live) are unduly influenced by the requirements of the "wage earners" job
because that single source of income has a very high ranking in the family's
list of priorities.

Stephanie Bodoff
From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Pregnancy Books
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:40:04 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <1992Apr4.163237.3049@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, watson@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.k.watson) writes:
> Take my advice.  Read as many books as you can now before you have any
> babies, because later there won't be time for much reading (unless you 
> count Dr. Seuss and the other books you will read - over and over again 
> - to your children).  I used to read tons and tons of books, even though 
> I'm a very slow reader, but now I'm lucky if I can completely finish 
> even one or two a month in the little 15-minute snatches I can eek out 
> during a typical day.  15 minutes in the bathroom, 15 minutes before I
> go to sleep at night after the baby sleeps. Etc.  (Gee, I wish somebody 
> had told me this before my first child was born.  Actually, somebody 
> did, but I didn't take it seriously at the time.)

Ah yes, reading--what a concept.  That has also been a big loss for me.  Just
as my son got old enough for me to start being able to finish real books, I
have a new baby and no more time for stretching out on the couch with a
book!  Actually, I can't even hit the library anymore anyway--a toddler in the
reading room just is not a match made in heaven.

One piece of advice for avid readers: magazines.  I subscribe to several with
wildly different topics (a weekly newsmagazine, parenting, movies, etc.).  I
have found that it is at least possible to satisfy the craving if I can pick up
one and read an article, or at least part of an article.  Plus if you subscribe
you always have SOMETHING new to read, and it comes to the house even if you
don't have time for library hopping or bookstore browsing.  

Ann Helmers
and then, there's always the net...:)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: connie@sushi.psych.nwu.edu (Constance Stillinger)
Subject: Inderal, pregnancy, & migraine (was Re: Headaches in pre-pubescent girl)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:10:52 GMT

In <1992Apr14.181922.10398@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.JXB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Judith Bodo) writes:

> ...
>Here come the good part. Since in some cases, migraines are traced
>back to some circulation problems in the brain, INDERAL (propanolol)
>a heart regulator, seems to have a normalizing effect on the blood
>floow in the brain as well. I my case it worked wonders, the lowest
>possible dose, taken once a day, every day. This is my third months
>and have NO HEADACHE, it is an absolute bliss, especially
>considering that 3 weeks prior to taking it, I had a long bout of
>day/nighters! There are no side effects, other than a lowering of
>the blood pressure, which, needless to say I did not need, but...
>So, if anyone used up all the available hopes, talk to your doctor.
>Inderal is not a pain killer, it help treat an underlying problem,
>which in some people could cause headaches.

I'll vouch for Inderal also, although I am on the *highest* dosage
and still get migraines if I'm not careful about my diet and ESPECIALLY
about GETTING ENOUGH REST.  (A side note---it didn't lower my bp very
much, if at all.)

My doctors okay'ed Inderal during pregnancy, but said that the baby
would have to be observed for a couple of days after birth for possible
bradycardia (slow heartbeat) and slow breathing---I guess until the
stuff works itself out of Lena/Isaac's system.  

Now that I'm pregnant, though, I feel a LOT less "migrainey." I hear
that migraines can go away during pregnancy (I wonder if they come back
after the birth?) I need to ask my doctor whether Inderal gets into
breast milk, and if so, explore alternative migraine control
medications after Lena/Isaac is born.


-- 
Constance Stillinger (connie@sushi.psych.nwu.edu)
Assistant Prof., Dep't of Psychology
Northwestern University
--
From: sst@athena.mit.edu (S. Tucker)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Phone Ettiquette
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:59:37 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr03.151650.32458@watson.ibm.com> strom@watson.ibm.com
(Rob Strom) writes:
>If you call my wife and I answer the phone, presumably I'm authorized
>to answer the phone.

Um, problem.  If I'm a stranger to you, then I _can't_ presume you're
authorized to answer the phone. -- For all I know you're the burglar.
When I call a business, I expect the call to be intercepted by a
secretary.  That isn't the case for a personal number.

>when I call, I say, "Hello, this is Rob Strom; may I please speak to ---".

I do this automatically if
1) I'm unknown to the intended recipient, i.e., it's a business call, or
2) I have some acquaintance with the person who picks up the phone

but not in the intermediate cases like you describe.  I'm not sure why;
perhaps it's related to having "never give out any information to a
wrong number" drilled into my head.  Do you make a distinction between,
"Who shall I say is calling?" and "Yes, who shall I say is calling?"
when a caller asks if X is in?  The first one makes me paranoid, while
the second sounds "safe".

S. Tucker
From: i001703@disc.dla.mil (ann schrage)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re:Underweight 1 year old
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:36:21 GMT
Organization: Defense Industrial Supply Center, Philadelphia, Pa

Don't worry about it, as long as your doctor thinks everything is ok.
My baby was premature by 5 and a half weeks, weighed 5 lbs 2 oz at birth, 
when she was at the doctor's last she weighed 17 lbs, this was at 13 months.
Then she got sick and lost 12 oz. I'm sure she's gained it back, she's now
14 months. She weighs as much as my friend's baby who is 7 months. The 
doctor says everything's ok, I'm glad she's on the light side, and I hope
that continues.
ann schrage
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: menon@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Ravi Menon)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: headaches
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:49:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: beagle.menon.703392562
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:


>	I am not going to be so naive as to suggest that I actually
>	*know* anything, or that a single solution is always valid.


>	But I posted a thing about the Feingold Association/diet a
>	while ago.  Headaches have been shown to be a symptom of
>	sensitivity to different food colors, preservatives, etc.,
>	particularly in older kids/adults.  And people with these
>	sensitivities *do* seem to "inherit" it, or it seems to
>	run in families.  I can give anyone more info that needs it.

>-- 
>	Alan Yasutovich
>	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
>	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
>	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......


I can vouch for some dyes..i.e. yellow #5...causing problems.  I get
major migraines if I eat foods containing it and other dyes.  But
alas, it is not the only cause.  For while I know I'll get a migraine
after eating say CHEEZ*TS, I also get them when i don't eat such
things.  So while I've eliminated one item from my diet I am still
a long way from solving the mystery.

Deantha
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