HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wk5w@luca.bme.Virginia.EDU (William Thang Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Stats/Analysis of AA vs. 12 AM
Date: 15 Aug 92 23:50:48 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia
Originator: wk5w@luca.bme.Virginia.EDU

Twelve Angry Men     kills   losses   offense   bombed  ogged  planets   DI
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hector               147      128       1.83      44      56       4    9.06
Ayeser                89       52       1.05      55      20      13    8.71
WeenieBlaster        113      109       1.38     147      14       8    8.29
D'Spayre              80       76       0.96      50      20       5    5.59
SpaceGhost            49       96       0.59     143      10       3    4.73
My Addiction          56       69       0.67      85      21       1    4.14
Zorkian Grue          60       91       0.75     117       2       2    3.76
Eat Photons           43       83       0.56      44       6       2    2.67
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                637      704                685     149      38   46.95

Zorkian Grue spent 0.07 hours in the SB: 7 kills, 1 loss.
Eat Photons spent 0.12 hours in the SB: 6 kills, 1 loss.


Arrogant Assholes    kills   losses   offense   bombed  ogged  planets   DI
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Spaceace!             78       90       0.93     105       9      21   11.23
Videodrome           107      116       1.31      60      14       4    5.59
West                 114       66       1.35      57       2       3    4.56
ZZnew guy             82       99       0.98      66       3       4    4.37
Talon                 48       33       1.11      98       9       5    4.23
Scoutmaster           55       81       0.66      84       0       3    3.43
Famine!               68      106       0.82      95       4       0    3.07
Warlock               36       33       0.88       7       0       2    1.63
Drewski               33       20       1.52      11       2       0    1.03
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                621      644                583      43      42   39.14

Drewski spent 1.73 hours in the SB: 72 kills, 3 losses.

---------------------------
Analysis of the statistics:  
---------------------------

Spaceace! can take planets.
Hector can ogg.

Our bases did not last long.  

Arrogant Assholes only won by 4 (42 - 38) planets but we beat them
 by DI, 46.95 vs. 39.14 !!!  So WE WIN .. WE GO TO THE FINALS ...

-D'Spayre/Unknown Ogger
 "there are lies, damn lies, and then statistics"
From: rone@girtab.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: SINL PLAYOFF UNOFFICIAL RANKING
Date: 15 Aug 1992 20:26:56 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

In article <16hgqrINNlpm@agate.berkeley.edu> tom@soda.berkeley.edu (Tom Holub) writes:
>You mean like the NCAA football rankings?  We know how popular
>*those* are.  If you can come up with a viable system, the INL
>Council will consider it.

How about using this season's standings as ranking for the next tournament?

5150
still in pain and shock
From: tom@soda.berkeley.edu (Tom Holub)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: different approach for INL
Date: 19 Aug 1992 02:55:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <Bt6x3o.CC5@cs.psu.edu> petonak@chem.psu.edu (Paul Petonak) writes:
)Why not, instead of having teams from specific schools, have a 'draft' at the
)beginning of the season. Simply make a list of people who want to play and
)let the captains draft their team. This way, captains will have to keep in 
)mind choosing someone to play their base, their oggers, etc. In addition, you
)will no longer have to solve the at large problem as most teams would probably
)automatically be at-large. 

 This idea has proponents on the Council, but I don't like it.  I *like*
playing with people I know; it's not only a question of skill or 
communication, it's a question of being able to do stuff after the
game, to have team parties, to watch CAL kick some stanford ASS in the
Big Game, whatever.  At-large teams really miss out on this kind of 
atmosphere, I think; that's why I'm not on an at-large team.
 -Mojo
From: maroo@soda.berkeley.edu (Maroo Lieuw)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: SINL PLAYOFF UNOFFICIAL RANKING
Date: 14 Aug 1992 05:24:16 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu




Well I will post this now and If needed Mojo can repost something different.

Yes everyone has been waiting but we were waiting for RANKSCUM to finish
their last SINL GAME TODAY.  Why so late??  They are a good team and would
undoubtedly made it to finals and therefore Mojo allowed them to keep
all of us in the dark.

I have discussed with Mojo the ranking for the Playoffs and #1 and #2
spots were decided by planet count in games.  I understand people might
get frustrated that GBO had the easier game schedule, but as in life
that's where chance takes you.


UNOFFICIAL RANKING (by word of mouth only)

#1	The Good, The Bad, and The Oggly
#2	Arrogant Assholes
#3	Rank Scum
#4	Team CrackPot


GBO vs TC
AA vs RS


In the event that THIS is incorrect I would like to say
that we would like to play the game 9pm PDT, but I did talk
to Mojo last night and these are what he told me.

I noticed that Mojo has unread mail and therefore do not know
if 12AM will play in playoffs...my assumption is they are not.


---Amazing (co-captain of GBO)


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From: flan@starling.wustl.edu (Ian Flanigan)
Subject: Re: Hockey Night
Keywords: oops, hockey, my leftmost toe
Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:40:32 GMT

Well, not many people showed up for hockey night.  Pretty lame.  There were  
also a few of us (me included) who were in a "less than pleasant" mood.  I'd  
like to apologize to those on the recieving end of it.  I don't know what was  
wrong.  Also, some people complained (me included) of heinous lag.  O well.   
Such is life.

We'll try again next week.  Coerce, cajole, and corrupt your friends so they'll  
play hockey too!  (With luck school will bring more players :-)

--
Ian Flanigan		"You can never have too many napkins."

Project Zeus
Washington University in St. Louis
flan@starling.wustl.edu
From: josh@cqs.washington.edu (Josh Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: interesting strategy by a bunch of weenies
Summary: mucus scums 3rd space against clueless opponents
Keywords: rwd4, mucus
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:25:25 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Just left an interesting game at rwd4, it would be early afternoon
Wednesday for you east coast types.

Klings against roms. Klings are mucus, spiff, four other clues, two
not-bad newbies.

Roms are me (doctor), two half-clues, five no clues. We get stomped,
right? Of course we do.

But we don't. We're down to four core planets, including one agri,
and I'm defending, and defending, and for some reason, they're not
trying to take 'em. I wonder why. Then I read the message: Orions
genocided by mucus pig and cronies.

Wow, I think. What courage. What spunk. What Real Men they must be
to genocide a third race that can muster one whole HAL.

And to be sure, they then came over and genocided us quickly. I can
only defend so much. Now, this was good for my stats and all, killing
the hordes of army-bearing klings, but this third race business has
me mystified. They could have crushed us in five minutes whenever they
chose, but they wasted everybody's time by taking third space.

I can't speak to mucus' comments, since I ignore him the second he
appears....there are certainly better players out there, people that
I HATE to see in an AS with kills, for example....mucus doesn't make
the top five or ten there....but he's certainly top of the pops on
my annoying jerk list.

So, anyway, here's how I'm going to deal with it. When mucus joins in,
I'm leaving. It's just not worth the aggravation of playing with the
jerk, either against or for. I don't have the time to wait for him to
grow up; it'll take decades at this rate....

disgruntled,

doctor

--
Josh Hayes, Quantitative Sciences HR-20 U of Washington
josh@mowgli.cqs.washington.edu             206 685-2793
Exclaimer: Hey!           Plan: Birth School Work Death
From: dawson@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: the endless quest for the perfect keymap
Date: 21 Aug 1992 00:27:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
Keywords: keymap

In article <1992Aug20.230345.23826@dsd.es.com> rjones@dsd.es.com writes:
>In article <fortony.714334246@murphy>, fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>rjones@itchy.dsd.es.com (Ray Jones - Perp) writes:
>>
>>>In article <fortony.714287599@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>
[back and forth mail messages]

Just 'shift-K'.
From: adc@tardis.msu.edu (Alan D. Cabrera)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: YAR.C (yet another reserved.c)
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:18:49 GMT
Reply-To: adc@tardis.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University

In article 1@cs.cmu.edu, jch+@cs.cmu.edu (Jonathan Hardwick) writes:
> rjones@itchy.dsd.es.com (Ray Jones - Perp) writes
> > the method for RSA is completely public.  Exporting it isn't a problem. 
> 
> Well, RSA bitched and moaned about the release of practical code to
> the net, but I haven't heard anything since.  What are they gonna do?
> Lock up the 10,000 net users who list a public key in their sig?
> Threaten to sue anyone who reads the code?  Ohh... wait... that's the
> AT&T method... :-)
> 
> "AT&T : anything better is illegal"

Well, obviously you were not personally contacted by their lawyers.
Write and attempt to distribute the code and you'll get polite little
letters from them.



---
Alan Cabrera				internet:  adc@tardis.cl.msu.edu
Computer Laboratory			phone:     (517) 353-3027
Michigan State University		fax:       (517) 353-9847
514 Computer Center			bitnet:    CABRERA@MSU
East Lansing, MI 48824
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:30:34 -0400 
From: Nanci Ann Miller <nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: A new kind of scum

It seems we have a new kind of scum among us folks.  If
you thought a scum could really ruin your game before now...
let me introduce you to the KING of all scum.  The kind of
scum that will destroy ALL of netrek as we know it...

The reserved.c scum!

Definitely not a happy thing.
From: polk@Metaphor.COM (Ben Polk)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: Ged. . . how good is he?
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:09:51 GMT
Reply-To: polk@Metaphor.COM (Ben Polk)
Organization: m4

In article <weX0YIa00awDMFTXYc@andrew.cmu.edu>, nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nanci Ann Miller) writes:
|> 
|> OK... THIS will decide it once and for all.  How about 6
|> Geds against one Balton base and one MUCUS escort?  Now,
|> all we need to do is figure out how to get 6 Geds...
|> 
|> :-)
|> 
|> Nanci
|> 
|> PS.  And we'll let ZZnew Guy be the puck!  :-)

AGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

How many posts and follow on flames per day would SIX Geds generate!
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:08:56 -0400 
From: "Timothy C. Worsley" <tw1r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ged. . . how good is he?
	<BszEDH.49t.2@cs.cmu.edu>
Distribution: rec

Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.netrek: 14-Aug-92 Re: Ged. . . how good
is he? Robert Hill@norman.VI.RI (631)

> Sorry to be arrogant here, but Masters lost to akira(handily, as I  
> recall), and Wizard DEMOLISHED akira.  I stake my reputation on the fact  
> that Masters (who were a VERY good team) would NOT have beaten wizard.  I  
> would've like to have seen a darkhorse versus masters game (to determine  
> third place), but the championship had been played, and the year was over.


Ahemm. . .
I would have liked to see a Darkhorse vs Akira games to determine second place.

ZZnew guy
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: ahabig@bigbang.astro.indiana.edu (Alec Habig)
Subject: Re: inoffensive INL change
Organization: Indiana University Astrophysics, Bloomington, IN
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:46:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.030029.19415@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wansari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waheed A Ansari) writes:
>I myself play on legend.cma.fr around 7 a.m. EDT on weekday mornings when
>I happen to be in the lab, and I'm sure the lag from Italy to legend would
>be tolerable as well.  I sometimes see French players (some of whose names
>I have become familiar with) on stateside servers also.  Not to forget the
>people up north.

I'm glad that all of Europe isn't as benighted as Italy internet wise!
Hopefully, something can be worked out to make it an international game.
Actually, it's moderately mind boggling to even consider playing a relex
intensive game from thousands of miles away!  Ain't technology great?

A weird internet trivia point - my ping times to legend are 1100+ms on a good
day from Italy, while from Indiana, they are comparable with yours.  Maybe the
net is set up in a really stupid way here, like going from Italy back to the US
then to France.

	Entropy

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From: adc@tardis.msu.edu (Alan D. Cabrera)
Subject: Re: YAR.C (yet another reserved.c)
Reply-To: adc@tardis.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 13:24:58 GMT

In article 713753667@murphy, fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:
> 
> Nobody's making any money off netrek, except perhaps the companies who
> make blankets for the homeless and the distilleries who make Mad Dog 20/20.

Doesn't matter, RSA is still protected under US patent law.


---
Alan Cabrera				internet:  adc@tardis.cl.msu.edu
Computer Laboratory			phone:     (517) 353-3027
Michigan State University		fax:       (517) 353-9847
514 Computer Center			bitnet:    CABRERA@MSU
East Lansing, MI 48824

Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:02:07 -0400 
From: Rick <stimpy+@cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sound in the client

Excerpts from rec.games.netrek sfd@neuromancer.metaphor.com 17-Aug-92:

# So, what other messages should their be?

How about...
doing! -- the sound of picking up a wall kill.
bwap!  -- the sound of taking a planet out of tmode with no punishment.
zoinks!  -- the sound of a base refitting to a scout, but keeping dockers.
AWwwww. -- the sound of someone not getting promoted due to low defense.
*giggle* -- the sound of HAL coming in as a SC, or AS, or DD.
wrrrwrrrwrrrrwrrr -- the sound of a warp 7 DD gaining fuel, yet overheating.

and finally:
*LAUGH* *LAUGH* *LAUGH* -- the sound of people talking about bezier's 
server code.

--Rick
"Bronco Netrek Server. You will never find a more wretched hive of
scum and villainy." -- Admiral Kenobi (aka Terence Chang)
Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:27:11 -0400 
From: Greg K Chung <gc2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Rank Scum at Arrogant Assholes


As Arrogant Assholes (5-0) and Team Rank Scum (4-1) advance to the
finals round of the SINL playoffs, we come to the interesting repeat of
the AA-RS matchup.

However, this time, AA would be "home" and RS would pick race first. :)

Unfortunately, after today, both teams will be missing key players.  If
an AA-RS showdown were to take place, neither would be able to field a
full strength team.  Thus this game will be postponed indefinitely.  

These two CMU teams, having defeated all other competitors (no CMU team
lost to a non-CMU team) declare themselves simulataneous champions of
the SINL!

Team Rank Scum.  Arrogant Assholes.  Victors of the SINL.

It just doesn't get any better than this.
From: dawson@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: Honorary CMUer
Date: 19 Aug 1992 17:30:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <16svidINNetm@agate.berkeley.edu> labc-4aa@web-2h.berkeley.edu (CS 60C Lab Assistant) writes:
>
>Honorary CMuer?????????????
>
>
>DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm....The Duck using Mojo's new slogan...could it be that there
will be a united, anti-CMU, Berkeley Superteam forming for the
fall? *gasp* (inquiring minds wanna know)

>Duck
Cow
From: jch+@cs.cmu.edu (Jonathan Hardwick)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: Blessed borgs
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:59:34 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

dstrout@isi.edu (David Strout) writes
> Well, on a related note, how is one to get a blessed client for a new 
> architecture?  I play a non-blessed but very stock client from a vax (bsd, 
> not ultrix).  I would love to be blessed, but have no idea how to do so.  
> So my only option would be to hack in a "ringer".  I haven't done that yet,
> but I could sure think about it.

Create a new account on the machine.  Build the client object files in
that account.  Let a server god with reserved.c log into the machine,
compile reserved.o for your architecture, and link and strip the
resulting exectuable.  The theory is that anyone determined enough to
snoop on the server god to get a look at reserved.c is determined
enough to disassemble an existing client anyway. 

Jonathan H., jch@cs.cmu.edu                        Spaceman Spiff, Flying Pig
I run a Netrek information archive.   Access: [1] WAIS (gourd.srv.cs.cmu.edu, 
port 6000, name netrek-ftp)  [2] AFS (try cd /afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/jch/netrek)  
[3] Anon FTP from gs69.sp.cs.cmu.edu   [4] e-mail from ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: tabraun@icaen.uiowa.edu (Terry A Braun)
Subject: Re: What is Wrong?  -Help 2
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:03:13 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Aug12.144613.9982@news.uiowa.edu> tabraun@icaen.uiowa.edu (Terry A Braun) writes:
>From tabraun@virgo.cca.cr.rockwell.com Wed Aug 12 07:33:01 1992
>Received: by icaen.uiowa.edu ( 5.52 (84)/1.1) id AA01722
>	on Wed, 12 Aug 92 07:32:55 CDT.
>Received: by virgo.cca.cr.rockwell.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C)
>	id AA14587; Wed, 12 Aug 92 07:33:59 -0500
>Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 07:33:59 -0500
>From: tabraun@virgo.cca.cr.rockwell.com (Terry A. Braun)
>Message-Id: <9208121233.AA14587@virgo.cca.cr.rockwell.com>
>To: tabraun@icaen.uiowa.edu
>Subject: error
>Status: R
>
>
>I used to be able to get onto multiple wait ques while waiting
>for a game.  I don't know what happened, but when I try to
>now, I get this error.  Does anyone know what's wrong?
>I am on a Unix based Dec 5000 - thanx for reminder Michael.
>
>PS:  I really had the last sentence in my original post, but
>there is something wrong with my being able to post from
>work, and I forgot to put it in when I posted it from school.
>
>X Error:  BadValue - integer parameter out of range
>  Request Major code 89 ()
>  Value 0x4b006d
>  Error Serial #48
>  Current Serial #53
>
>
>Terry Braun
>

	Many thanks to Greg - he solved my problem.  it seems that I
	was loading a color GIF file onto the root with XV, thus
	changing the Root Colormap ("a no-no").  If I keep it to a
	Black and White picture, I have no problems.  Greg seemed to
	think that the colors set in .xtrekrc were not available 
	under the new colormap.

	Terry Braun
From: janowsky@math.rutgers.edu (Steven Janowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Not Clueless; Netrek Impaired
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:24:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

We need some new terminology; at times the following have all been
called clueless:

1) Has no idea whatsoever (clueless)

2) Gets a kill, picks up armies, (no message, of course) and either
	a) drops on an agri, or
	b) takes some 3rd space planet while you are almost in an LPS
		(worse than clueless)

3) SB's that always refuse docking permission, don't read messages (but
	will send enough distress calls to wipe out the important stuff
	in your message window).

...

and finally - you begin to think you are clueless because you repeatedly
try (and fail) to ogg the enemy carrier taking planet after planet.  Of
course he always has 2 escorts and you are lagged and no one will help
you...

DrJ
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 01:42:51 -0400 
From: "Timothy C. Worsley" <tw1r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: SINL finals
	<16ig62INNt47@agate.berkeley.edu>

>)After close consultation with team AA and RS captains, we have decided
>)to call the SINL championship a tie.  Neither team could field a team to
>)play for at least 2 weeks.  We feel that this is way to long a wait to
>)finish up the SINL, so we are calling the game a tie.  After 2 weeks, we
>)may play a scrimmage game for bragging rights, but the official word is
>)TIE.

>Well, you don't have the right to call the SINL championship a tie, but
>I suppose CMU players are always looking for new and improved ways to
>be weenies.  And you guys want more teams in the fall, and consequently
>more ability to ignore league directives by 'agreements' like this.
>Fellow Council members, please note.
> -Tom

	Please give it a rest, Tom.  AA has been playing down Yeah Boy!! for
weeks.  If RS and AA were to play now, RS would be missing Val Ckurai
and Beck, while AA would be missing Red Shirt, Yeah Boy!!, Westley, and
Sunny.  We have agreed to postpone our game indefintiely.  If you
insist, we could play a farce game, but it would make much more sense to
wait until our players return.
	Why are you, Tom, trying to villify us?

ZZnew guy

PS
Yes, it's true.  Some of us do have lives outside of netrek.  I know
that *I* would have been speaking an octive higher if I had played in
the first AA vs. RS match.
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: The Future of the INL
Date: 17 Aug 1992 06:53:35 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
NNTP-Posting-Host: whirlwind.berkeley.edu
Originator: goldfarb@whirlwind.berkeley.edu

In article <oeXMRCa00WB2Mvb1ID@andrew.cmu.edu> Stephen Alexander Racunas <sr26+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
)[Tom is] now doing more harm than good.  Don't take my word for it, just look
)at the performance of your own team.  I'm not just talking about your poor play
)here.  No other team was even ACCUSED of cheating, let alone caught at it.

	As a member of that team, I take exception to this. *One* player on
the team cheated, and was removed from the team. The rest of us didn't know
what was going on until the Ogglies started complaining. Don't insult all
of us because one was a shithead.

-- 
   David Goldfarb          | "I am the mad blind energy of the universe,
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  | I vacuum under the beds!"
goldfarb@UCBOCF.BITNET     |            -- Kim Stanley Robinson
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