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From: xxapollo@utagraph.uta.edu (Mr. Apollo Silva)
Subject: Re: 2,000 yard rusher
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:47:03 GMT

chico@athena.mit.edu (Thomas A Weston) writes:
: In article <8{#@byu.edu>, rosej@utah.et.byu.edu (James Rose) writes:
: |> 
: |> v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
: |> >I was wondering if anyone knows who the last man to rush for
: |> >2,000 yards was?
: |> 
: |> Last man?  How about ONLY man.  Eric Dickersons' record stands at 2005 yards.
: |> 
: |> 			James
: |> 
: No, OJ made it first.  And Dickerson got to 2100 something.  I'm pretty sure
: that there have been 6 people in US college/pro football to break 2000.  OJ
: and Dickerson in the NFL, Walker in the USFL, and Allen, Rozier and Sanders in
: college.  Please let me know if I'm wrong on one of these, or if I missed
: someone.

From the Dallas Morning News: "... Two backs have reached the 2000-yard mark.
Eric Dickerson had 2,105 yards for the Los Angeles Rams in 1984.  O.J. Simpson
gained 2,003 for the Buffalo Bills in 1973."
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From: nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna)
Subject: Re: Indoor vs. Outdoor (was Re: WIZARD PREDICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!)
Organization: Houses of the Holy
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 16:22:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.202330.23976@linus.mitre.org>, lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
> In article <Ueyp_Ei00WDK45moMA@andrew.cmu.edu>, Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> >> Key Matchup -               Pittsburgh at Buffalo        Buffalo by 3
> >>                     It sure is tough to win in Buffalo in sub-freezing
> >> 		temps.  Pittsburgh in spot for big let down!
> >
> >No offense (and no flame) intended but just what the hell do you think
> >the weather is like in Pittsburgh, eh? Take my word for it: it ain't
> >toasty! :)
> 
> Is the Steelers home field indoors or outdoors?  Does anybody have a list of
> who plays indoors and who plays outdoors?  This data should become more of a
> factor as the weather gets colder.
> 

The Steelers definitely play outdoors; I can remeber that frozen field
in December every year.  Lets try this from memory:


NFC Central

Bears: Outdoor
Vikings: Indoor
Lions: Indoor
Bucs:  Outdoor
Packers: Outdoor

NFC East

Redskins:  Outdoor
Giants:  Outdoor
Cardinals:  Outdoor
Eagles: Outdoor
Cowboys: Indoor

NFC West

49ers: Outdoors
Falcons: Outdoors
Saints: Indoors
Rams: Outdoors

AFC West

Broncos: Outdoor
Chargers: Outdoor
Chiefs: Outdoor
Raiders: Outdoor
Seahawks:  Indoor

AFC East

Buffalo: Outdoor
Miami: Outdoor
Colts: Indoor
Jets: Outdoor
Pats:  Outdoor (I think they moved from a domed to 
        a grass field last year)

AFC Central

Steelers: Outdoor
Browns: Outdoor
Bengals: Outdoor
Oilers: Indoor

Please feel free to correct since these are off the top of my head.


-- 
Nitin Khanna.  I Teach Eunuchs - I mean Unix.
Go Bulls, Bears, Broncos, Blackhawks.
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From: whitesel@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel K. Whitesell)
Subject: BENGALS BEAT BEARS.  BREACH DIFFERENCE IN OT!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:20:22 GMT

Bengals	31
Bears	28	OT

Harbaugh's interception late in the fourth quarter results in Bengal score
to tie game at 28.  Boomer throws TD pass on 4th and 23, goal to go.
In OT Bengals D stops Bears then Bengals run on tiered Bears D resulting
in Breach field goal to win.  Great come from behind victory.
Boomer still has touch. :) :) :).  Can't wait to hear Ditka on radio hehehe!

Also congrats to Browns, Moon has your number, hahaha! :)

whitesel@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dan Whitesell)
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From: mcs@fps.com (Mike Sanfratello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills in 1st..suprise,surprise
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:43:39 GMT
Organization: CRAY Research

In article <t_trunc.11@chips.bash.edu> t_trunc@chips.bash.edu (Tursiops Truncatus) writes:
>HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, that's rich!!  Thanks for the laugh, Immy!  Best laugh 
>I've had since Oct 4th!
>
>TT
>Tursiops Truncatus 

Oh give us a break with this crap, did we just learn how to alter
headers, Tony Travaglini?  Now try and figure out how to decipher
them to uncover the real site from which this drivel speweth.....

You're not fooling anyone...
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From: bderolf@encore.com (Brad DeRolf)
Subject: Re: Worst/Best Trades
Reply-To: bderolf@encore.com (Brad DeRolf)
Organization: Encore Computer Corp
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:45:59 GMT
News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <BxKFEy.HqK@encore.com> tolsen@encore.com (Ted Olsen) writes:

>Since your talking about Dolphin Trades.  How about:
>
>Worst: Trading the rights to Anthony Carter to the Vikings for 
>Robin Sendline (sp?)????????
>
>Ted

I agree it sucked. But Carter was still in the USFL when they made the
trade. The USFL folded soon after the trade as I recall.
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From: jjungbau@fili.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Teams with anemic offence and Super Defence
Keywords: Vikings
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:59:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov5.205910.21806
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Nov5.153501.21017@pixel.kodak.com>, mcmillen@thepond.ssd.kodak.com (Philip McMillen) writes:


|> The Vikings have scored 211 points in 8 games!!!  Only ONE team
|> in the entire NFL has scored more this season, the 49ers with
|> 230 points.  This is hardly what I would call anemic!
|> 
|> The main problem on offense for the Vikes so far this season
|> is turnovers (mostly fumbles).

And we all know who's doing a *lot* of that fumbling... Hmmm...
do the initials T.A. sound familiar?  C'mon Terry, just hang on
to the ball!


 
|> Once the offense can control the turnovers, they have a
|> passing and rushing attack that can really move the ball!
|> They have already scored the second most points in
|> the league, if they improve they will be hard to stop.
|> 
|> Combine this with the outstanding defense they're playing,
|> and the Vikes will definately be a tough team to contend
|> with in the playoffs.
|> 
|> 
|> Phil McMillen
|> 
|> "Does Gannon look like Tarkenton scrambling or is it
|> just me?"
|> 
|> THE PURPLE PEOPLE EATERS ARE BACK!

Absolutely!  They are indeed!


Jim Jungbauer
Go Vikings, Northstars!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:25:51 EST
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Help: Overtime rules.

what exactly are the OT rules in the NFL? does the 1st team to score win the
game or does each team get at least one possession of the ball (and a chance
to score)?
---
later,
sunil
From: amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: WIZARD PREDICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:34:58 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


In article <BILLMS.92Nov6182635@dip.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (Will
iam Mangione-Smith) writes:
>In article <alb2001-061192153016@m248-105.bgsu.edu> alb2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Alvi
no Battistoni) writes:
>
>   Pick of the Week -          Dallas at Detroit            Dallas by 14
>
                                                                           Look
for Emmit Smith to run all over a banged up
>
                                                                           team.
  Revenge from last year's playoff game!
>
>
>Do you have any idea what you are talking about?  The Lions are not banged up
>on defense.  Emmit may indeed run all over them, but if it happens it won't
>be because of injuries.
>

I don't think he does
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Ditka vs. Obnoxious Fan
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:13:50 GMT

In article <96477@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:


   Last night, when Mike Ditka was doing a guest spot on a cal in show, someone
   called in and refered to Ditka as a macho baby. Ditka reply was pure Ditka,
   he gave out his office address and invited the caller to stop hiding behind
   the microphone and come out so that Ditka could "whoop his ass". The audience
   seemed to behind Ditka on this one.

The audience is *always* behind Ditka.  Half of the calls he gets are "Coach,
I'm honored to talk to you, you are the symbol of chicago bears football, and
I hope you coach as long as you want".  At this point the crowd does their
immitation of the half the congress during a state of the unions address,
i.e. go wild cheering like monkeys.  I like Ditka the coach, I don't care
what Ditka the man says or does, but the guy has a cult following in Chicago.

Bill
--
-------------------------------
	Bill Mangione-Smith
	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Best/worst of team history
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:47:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


     Well, I've come out of my lurker hibernation to pose an interesting
question.  A friend who is a diehard Redskins fan and I were discussing
the best and worst in our favorite teams' histories, as far as trades,
personnel, etc. goes.  Actually, it started on worsts, but it was hard to
come up with really bonehead moves by the 'Skins.  I thought this might be
a neat thread - what are the moves that has given fans the most ecstasy or
humiliation over the years.  Mine, for the Browns, were:
     BEST:  Letting Paul Brown build a dynasty in the 40s and 50s; he was
a coaching genius that few remember, with the Lombardis and Shulas of the
world taking over.
     WORST:  Firing Brown in about '61.  There was apparently no motive
except personalities, and Brown went on to build a Bengals team that sur-
prised people in '75 or so with a 10-4 mark, and won the AFC twice in
the 80s.  The Paul Warfield trade was only 2nd.

     For the Redskins, getting RIggins as a free agent was my friend's
best moment for them.  He said he doesn't know of any really awful deals,
but that not adhering to Riggins' demands and letting him sit out (for
the season?) in '80, after the team barely missed the playoffs the year
before, was the worst.  He also cited not drafting Joe Montana in '79,
but every team can say that.
-- 
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu  : Me, age 4 & now: "Mommys and Daddys & other
   "Thou shalt love God with all: relatives have to give lots of hugs & love
thy heart...*and thy neighbor as: & support, 'cause Heaven is just a great
thyself*." Luke 10:27           : big hug that lasts forever and ever!!!"
From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Player of the Week Questions
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:57:53 GMT
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx


      I noticed that OT Eric Williams got NFC Offensive Player of
the Week this week. 

      How are the Off/Def players of the week chosen? 

      Who does the choosing?

      And is there some sort of "nomination" process?

      Also, when was the last time an offensive lineman got the award?

      One last question, what is the record for offensive P.O.T.W awards
going to the same team in one season? defensive? 

      NOTE: Dallas has four offensive POTW awards this year.  Emmitt(2),
Irvin, and Williams.  But no def. POTW awards.  Any other teams piling
'em up?
     

-- 
If I could, I'd slow the whole world down*I'd bring it to its | Pat Power
knees*I'd stop it spinnin' round*But as it is, I'm climbing   | My opinions only
up an endless wall*No time this time, No time at all          |
       - The Police, "No Time This Time"                      | Da Boyz are back!!
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer Notes...
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:03:54 GMT
 <1992Nov11.154810.25591@c>  
 <1992Nov11.221738.10119@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov11.221738.10119@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud) writes:

> GB also plays relatively well at County Stadium vs Lambeau.  (Probably because 
> they always play the Bears at GB)  Maybe this week they will cut down on the 
> number of 16 yd punts :-)

Speaking of the punting game, what's McJulien's condition...doesn't he
have tendonitis in his plant foot?  Seems like the Pack should be
shopping around for a temporary replacement so McJ could heal up...

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
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From: iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi)
Subject: Re: TO DOLPHAN FROM BUFFALO: I LAUGH AT YOU!!!
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 17:24:11 GMT

In <695@usday32.Dayton.NCR.COM> mcp@usday32.Dayton.NCR.COM (Mike Perkins) writes:

>In article <92307.163131RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>In article <2759@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
>>says:
>>>
>>>In article <92307.024832RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>>>>Reporter: "Who do you think is the best running back in the NFL?"
>>>>>Thurman Thomas: "The running back that went to Oklahoma State".
>>>>  Last time I checked, Barry Foster was leading the league.
>>>
>>>Obviously, you haven't checked recently enough.
>>  Obviously!  Barry Foster is No. 2 - but still ahead of Thurmon Thomas!

>The job of a running back is not only to run the ball, but to catch the
>ball and then run, which Thurman does better then any RB in the league.
>And if you check the leader in all-purpose yards you will again find 
>Thurman, just like the last two years.

>I'm not trying to belittle Foster, he is having a very good year.  In fact
>I like this years Steelers team and I hope they continue to do well, but
>Thurman Thomas is a proven player over several years.  Barry Foster is 
>having ONE good year.  Maybe he will have another good year, but then again
>maybe not.
>-- 
>Mike Perkins
>NCR Corporation
>Dayton, OH

Don't forget that Thomas's receiving abilities mean that often there is one
roving LB assigned to Thomas only.  This can open up one other guy to perhaps
cut across the middle as Andre Reed often does.  However, the Bills threat down the middle, McKeller has been unable to play so far.  Once he fully recuperates
and is back to his old form, defenses will have to worry about an open TE in
the middle of the field. 

Imran Qureshi

>mike.perkins@daytonOH.NCR.com
From: warlock@halloween.EBay.Sun.COM (Dennis Montgomery)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: DamN AstrOturF!!
Date: 9 Nov 1992 20:32:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: warlock@halloween.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: halloween.ebay.sun.com


>	Look at the injuries related to astroturf over that past 2
>	weeks, 'Lanta's QB, NY's LB and numerous others.
>
>	When are they going to spend the bucks and grow grass
>	indoors? Hell they can grow marijuana indoors, why
>	not grass?

Soapbox time...

Problem is "the bucks" are a big reason an owner moves his team to a dome in
the 1st place.  No groundskeeping hassle (and associated cost).  Player injuries?
Owners don't care, they can always get more players.  Colleges spit 'em out like
crazy...If you're an owner out to make a profit, how do you cut costs?  Pay low
player salaries and be uncompetitive (Steelers being the exception to the rule)?
You could cut groundskeeping costs by going to astroturf or even better for the profit
margin, move to a dome that holds 10-20,000 more paying fans than your last
stadium. 

I grew up a football fan in the 70's and some of my favourite things were the
mud/rain/snow games.  I especially used to like the flamethrowers on wheels used 
to thaw the Metropolitan stadium frozen tundra!  

Cheers to the Bears and Pats for ripping out the fuzzy concrete and putting back
natural turf.

Jeers to the Falcons for going indoors, may you suffer the curse of all dome teams
and never make it to a Super Bowl.

And thanks to teams like the Broncos, Packers, Browns, Skins, Chargers, Dolphins,
	Bucs, Rams, Raiders, and Cards for staying outside on natural grass.  
	Oh yes, though I hate to say anything good about the 49ers, at least they 
	play outside on natural turf too :)

Go Broncos!
Dennis
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Randall's Loosing It
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:33:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Yesterday on the local news station, the sports crew interviewed Randall and
asked him how he felt about being benched for a week.  He started rambling on
about how he wasn't confused, there are hurricanes and floods, the world could
end any day so it would be best to find solace in the Bible.  What's he on??

satish nair
go giants


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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: Best/worst of team history (Green Bay Edition)
Keywords: Green Bay
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:57:22 GMT


The worst trades I can think of in Green Bay history:

1) Many, many draft choices to the Rams for John Hadl.  Something
like 2 1sts, 2 seconds, and a third round pick.  Hadl played
briefly for Green Bay, but was clearly on the downside of his long
and mostly distinguished career (no player is worth this much
except maybe a young Unitas).

2) Two second round picks to the Miami Dolphins for QB Jim Del
Gaizo.  Del Gaizo stank.

Both trades were made by Dan Devine.

3) James Lofton to the Raiders for almost nothing.  Lofton had
been accused of being naughty, but never convicted.  Without a
conviction--or even a court case--I never understood why GB traded
him.  Of course, this was right around the time of the Mossy Cade
incident.

4) Green Bay might've given up a first for John Jefferson, who
wasn't worth it.  But nobody thought it was a bad trade for GB at
the time.

Two recent trades that look pretty good:

1) A first round pick to Atlanta for Brett Favre.

2) A sixth round pick to Phoenix for Tootie Robbins.  Robbins is
starting, and the guy (another OL) Phoenix drafted with the 6th
pick was on the Packer practice squad (don't know if he still is).

Other trades that worked out well:

3) Don Horn to Denver for Alden Roche.  Horn was cut by the Broncs
within a year.  Roche played ok at DE for a few years.

4) Donny Anderson to St.L. for MacArthur Lane.  I didn't like this
at the time, but Lane turned out to be a good runner, receiver,
and blocker, and a perfect complement to Brockington in the
backfield.

A trade that really looked good for a year or two:

5) A draft pick and player swap with the Browns, which ended up
with Green Bay getting Herman Fontenot, Anthony Dilweg, and Erik
Affholter.  The Browns just got Lawyer Tillman out of the deal.  A
few weeks ago, Tillman scored his first pro TD against GB.
Fontenot is out of football, Dilweg was cut by the Raiders this
year, and Affholter went somewhere in plan-B last spring.


Worst trades in recent NFL history, in no particular order:

Green Bay's Hadl deal above.
What Indy gave up for Dickerson.
What Minnesota gave up for Walker.

The one thing each of these trades had in common was that one team
gave up more than any player is worth.  Football's a team sport,
and mortgaging the future for one player has never
(counterexamples?) brought a championship.
-- 

	Think snow!

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: HELP!!!!  I'M CAUGHT IN A TIME WARP!!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:32:29 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


	Ok, I apparently have a problem with my machine here.  Can anyone help
me out on this?  It is Nov 10 at 1:30pm EST as I am posting this.  The most
recent post on my machine is dated Nov 2 in the post, but Nov 10 by the
machine.  The content indicates that the Nov 2 date is correct.  So, my machine
is a week behind, anyone got any clue as to why I am getting stuff a week late?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
	-Skins fan confused over the date problem, and ghating Ryp.
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: They might be faking it...
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:28:41 GMT

910427m@ace.acadiau.ca (JASON MATTHEW MCDONALD) writes:
>
>It's fourth down.
>1 to go.
>The Bengals line up to go for it.
>The ever so intelligent ESPN reporter says;
>'They're going to go for it, or at least fake it'
>FAKE IT?????  What the hell does FAKE IT mean.  How the HELL to you fake 
>going on a fourth down?  I don't know, maybe this guy sees something I don't

There's a very standard fake on 4th down, which is to not run a play
and just hope for a false start and a penalty.  However, if the play
clock falls to about 2 seconds and the defense doesn't fall for it,
call a time out and get the punting unit on.

>But if you ask me, it's just plain stupidity.

Yes, and guess who's acting stupid.


--Gidi





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