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From: HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: LaserWriter 6x0 and Photograde
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:58:18 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1057306.2B5C12EC@cmhgate.fidonet.org>,
Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) writes:
>bauer@informatik.uni-ulm.de (Christian Bauer) writes:
>
>CB> If you consider the particle size (600dpi) of the toner the
>CB> FinePrint (RET) of the HP makes no real sense, as the variation
>CB> of laser pulses can't be followed by the Paricles of the toner.
>CB> In 300 dpi this has (toner was capable of 400 to 450 dpi)
>CB> made sense now it is only a technical feature until they have
>CB> a toner with double the resolution of 600 dpi!
>
>I guess I'm a _little_ confused as to what you're saying, so pardon me if I
>sound stupid here, but:
>
>HP is advertising that the toner particles for the new LJ4 are different,
>microfine, and otherwise much smaller than previous toner particles for
>previous LaserJet printers.  I have no reason to disbelieve them.
>
>If you're thinking that HP is still using the old toner particle size in the
>new printer, it looks like that's not the case--and therefore their RET
>FinePrint should work out of the box.  At least, that's what I'm counting on
>for my department's purchase of one of these puppies.
>
>Anyone else have any different knowledge on this?
>
They use "microfine" toner but tone is still toner. I have extensive
experience with a 1016dpi plain-paper typesetter and its hard to
distinguish from a 600dpi quality laser engine (it uses microfine
toner).

HP's RET (which stands for Resolution Ehancement Technology and is a
registered trademark like FinePrint (Apple's technology)) will
attempt to place particles more precisely than 600dpi on the 4M but
the results will be very, very difficult to distinguish from
"standard" 600dpi on the same machine.

Only a photographic process, with a laser exposing film, is precise
enough to give noticeably better results than 600dpi.

Mark
rogo@forsythe.stanford.edu
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From: sacg@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (giuseppe sacco)
Subject: (Q)Which Duo doc are there?
Keywords: Duo, duo doc
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:11:22 GMT


Is there anybody that knows anything about 3rd parties Duo docs?
I only know about E-Machine, offering a minidoc. Are there any more already in the market or going to be marketed?
Any help will greatly apreciated, as I'm going to buy a Duo with a doc.

	Thank you very much
		Giuseppe
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From: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: FPU for ClassicII
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:04:30 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

flc1@cornell.edu (Fred Chen) writes:

>Venders of FPU's often deceive consumers into buying their products
>that they claim will considerably boost your computer's performance.
>NOT!  A coprocessor only speeds up computation of COMPLEX mathematical
>expressions in math intensive programs (ie Mathematica) by freeing the
>main
>68030 processor from most of the computational responsibility.  However,
>even if you have a coprocessor, most of the simple math is still computed
>by the 68030.  Spreadsheets, wp, and desktop publishing programs use
>simple
>math.
>Hence, an FPU would hardly increase your computer's performance here.  
[stuff deleted]

An FPU (Floating Point Unit) accelerates floating-point (real number)
operations significantly -- often by a factor of 50! That means that
in addition to freeing up the 68030, the FPU is a lot faster than the
030 at floating-point operations. I've got some programs which 
actually run 50 times faster with the FPU.

By the way, spreadsheets use floating point arithmetic and therefore
do benefit from the FPU.

You're right, however, that a lot of day-to-day software shows no
improvement whatsoever from the addition of an FPU.

-Ralph

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From: ns111310@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Nathaniel Sammons)
Subject: send me info on the Feb 10 announcements
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:37:38 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

please send me any info you have on the Feb 10 Apple New Product
announcements.

thanks,

-nate sammons
 ns111310@longs.lance.colostate.edu
From: Ray_L_Curry@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook trap door
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:37:38 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

I got careless last week and picked up my Powerbook from the desk 
without looking.  Something had hooked the door and broke it off.
Sigh.  But then I got to looking at it and decided to try to fix
it.  The little nub was gone and a small bit of the raised portion
was gone but most of that base was there.  So I took a large 
paper clip and heated it.  Using the clip I pushed the plastic 
around a little to build up the platform and pushed the clip into
the base.  As the clip cooled, it stuck.  I cut the clip off with
just a nub sticking out of the door, filed the nub round on the
end so it was about the same size and the nub that had broke off.
Walah, it works.  I reinstalled the door and its fine.  The 
work is hardly noticeable.  Something to try if you break that
prize machine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: GREMICF@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (M. David Greenspon)
Subject: Re: Info on the New Macs coming Feg 10th
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 20:43:04 EST

In article <1993Jan19.041254.8000@selway.umt.edu>
cs000rjp@selway.umt.edu (Russell J. Pagenkopf) writes:
>
>In article <727252206.AA01084@contrast.wlink.nl> qsi@contrast.wlink.nl (Peter Kocourek) writes:
>>Jonathan W. Katz wrote in a message on 12 Jan 93 to All
>>
>> JWK> Mac LC III:  25-MHz 68030  32-bit data bus  4 Mbytes of RAM
>> JWK> expandable to 36  one PDS
>> JWK> Support for eight bit color on 16-inch monitors
>>
>>What does that translate to, pixel-wise? Does this mean 16-bit color on
>>13-inch (640*480) monitors?
>It doesn't translate to anything pixel-wise, well not exactly, what it
>means is that you will not need a graphics card to use a 16 inch monitor,
>it will be built in (if I understand the above).
 
It probably _does_ translate to something pixel-wise.  They are probably
talking about the Apple 16" Monitor, which is 832 x 624 pixels.
 
 
>Eight bit color works the same way. Eight bit color means 256 colors on
>the screen at once, just because you change the monitor size doesn't mean
>you increase or decrease the number of colors. If you want 16 bit color,
>you are still going to have to buy the graphics card.
 
Well, this depends on how the LC III handles things.  The LC, for example,
supports up to four-bit color on 13" monitors, but on 12" monitors it can
handle eight-bit color.  So the LC III _could_ give you more colors with
smaller screen sizes (it doesn't sound like it will, but it _could_).
 
--David
 
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From: eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2)
Subject: Re: mailordering SIMMS in the States
Organization: FOA, Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:36:09 GMT

dockx@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Jan Dockx) writes:

>I (living in Belgium, Europe) want to buy 1 80ns 4Mb SIMM
>for my vx with an USA mail order company.

>Which post order companies are reliable? Can I reach them
>through email?

Use the big ones, I say. I bought more both RAM and VRAM to my LC from Mac's
Place. No hassle's at all and quick delivery.

cheers
--
     Erik Svensson
    Research Officer            National Defense Research Establishment (FOA)
 Guided Weapons Division        Stockholm, Sweden      eriks@fenix.lin.foa.se

"The problem with the future is that it keeps turning into the present"
 -- Hobbes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mjm4@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Michael J McNaughty)
Subject: Re: Info on the New Macs coming Feg 10th
Reply-To: mjm4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:06:13 GMT


>>>Jonathan W. Katz wrote in a message on 12 Jan 93 to All
>>>
>>> JWK> Mac LC III:  25-MHz 68030  32-bit data bus  4 Mbytes of RAM
>>> JWK> expandable to 36  one PDS
>>> JWK> Support for eight bit color on 16-inch monitors



I have a question. If you have a Mac LC, and Apple offers an upgrade path
to the LCIII (Please!!!) will this allow the upgraded mac to have the
same RAM expansion option to 36MB? Only having a 10MB max thanks to those
wonderful ROMs is really disappointing.

-- 
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The University of Chicago			front of me, than to have
mjm4@midway.uchicago.edu			a frontal lobotomy!
From: ephraim@think.com (Ephraim Vishniac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: Do you trust Disk First Aid 7.1?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:39:43 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: charon.think.com

In article <1993Jan22.154828.12875@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:
>Isn't Disk First Aid only applicable to drives using the Apple drivers,
>i.e. Apple SCSI disks???

No, Disk First Aid works with any HFS volume, including hard disks,
floppies, and HFS CD-ROMs. 

Perhaps you're thinking of Apple's HD SC Setup.
-- 
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"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no
God.  It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dtomack@mv.us.adobe.com (Darin Tomack)
Subject: REQUEST: Info on Sound Input hardware for the Mac IIci
Keywords: IIci, sound, audio, sampling, recording
Reply-To: dtomack@mv.us.adobe.com (Darin Tomack)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:30:47 GMT

I'm looking for info on devices that are available, currently, for sound input  
for a Mac IIci.  The two systems that I know a little bit about are the  
MacRecorder and the Voice Impact Pro (?).  Does anyone have any particular  
loves or gripes about either system?  My impression is that the MacRecorder is  
much more popular.  Anyone out there used both systems?  Anyone care to do a  
compare and contrast of the two and the software systems delivered with each?   
I'd sure appreciate it.

Are they both single channel audio (ie. monoaural input)?  What is the max  
sampling rate?  I assume that they are both input only (ie. neither systems  
contains a DtoA to go back out).

Thanks,

darin

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But on eliminating every other reason/For our sad demise/They logged the
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Waters
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2)
Subject: Re: My Quantum 105 has the shakes. Ideas? 
Organization: FOA, Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:36:34 GMT

butler@quest.comm.mot.com (Jim Butler) writes:

>	I would suspect that this type of behaviour is unusual, since a 
To say the least.
>hard drive is a fairly precise piece of machinery (as consumer items go).

>	Am I sitting on a time bomb?

Sure sounds like it. I'd guess that the disk somehow is mounted off axis and
doing excentric rotation. Tho' why it continues to work in that case is totally
beyond me. Be sure to keep recent back-ups!

cheers
--
     Erik Svensson
    Research Officer            National Defense Research Establishment (FOA)
 Guided Weapons Division        Stockholm, Sweden      eriks@fenix.lin.foa.se

"The problem with the future is that it keeps turning into the present"
 -- Hobbes
From: ccsupcp@prism.gatech.EDU (Yep)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Latest Prices
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:07:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <82084@hydra> gt4997b@prism.gatech.EDU (hamza benamar) writes:
>
>	Here are the prices, educational must I add, at the GTech
>  computer store :
>
>        Date : 1/26/93
>
> <many prices deleted>
>
>        IICI 5/230              : $2295

I'm a student at Georgia Tech, too.  My question is why students at other
schools have posted prices on the IIci and similar machines for $500 cheaper!?

Is there a reason Apple has lower prices for different schools or is our
bookstore ripping us off?

Thanks,
Charlie
charliep@cc.gatech.edu

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From: densond@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Dave Denson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 2nd internal HD?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 00:37:35 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: storm.cs.orst.edu

I have a second SCSI disk that I would like to install in a Mac IIx.  I have
run the machine with two drives for a short while for a test run.  My
first question is thus:  Will the power supply handle two drives split off of
the HD power socket?  The machine has an ethernet card and a single floppy.

(Maybe another good question here would be "is there a good way to mount a
second drive in a IIx?"--I was going to zip-tie it in the second floppy bay.)

How about the power supply in a Quadra 700?  Is there room anyway in a 700?--
I've never taken one apart...

Please email replies--I'm about two weeks behind in news... ick.

Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dholmes@netcom.com (Dennis Holmes)
Subject: Re: Apple 13" monitor flickering
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 01:13:22 GMT

tsai_c@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:

>My new Apple 13" monitor is flickering sometimes when I close a window.
>I am using the monitor with IIci on board vedio circuit. Any people out
>there have the same experience or maybe I just got a bad one?

Yes, I have this problem with my 13" on my IIsi also (internal video).  It
usually happens to me when the whole screen (or at least most of it)
changes, but I can't pin it down to any situation in particular.  I have had
no other problems with it, but I've wondered lately if it's related to the
capacitor problem.  Mine is in the range of affected serial numbers....

One annoyance:  My contrast knob works fine, but the brightness knob has
always had very little effect.
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From: sdkerpel@vnet3.vub.ac.be (Sven De Kerpel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: net-CD-ROM -> PC
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:43:48 GMT
Organization: Info-group Free University Brussels

We have a lab with 40 Mac's (+ LC LCII IIsi) and a PC running appleshare.
The question:

Is it possible to put a PC (or amiga) CD-ROM in an CD-ROM drive (which we still 
need to buy) and reed the information from a computer (mac, PC, Amiga) on the 
network?

With or without extra software (which)

Any sugestions, information or help is appreciated.

thanx

[Sven De Kerpel ][ sdkerpel@vnet3.vub.ac.be ]
[Info-groep VUB pleinlaan 2 1050 Brussel Belgium]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: lord@andersen.uucp (Bob Lord)
Subject: Re: Duo Dock Network problem
Keywords: Duo Dock Powerbook network problem
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:06:46 GMT

tbs@login.dkuug.dk (Torben B. S|rensen) writes:


>Does anybody have any experience with the Powerbook Duo Dock combination?
>We recently bought a dozen and like them - but there is one problem:
>For no apparent reason a Powerbook may suddenly forget that it is 
>connected to a network while in the Dock. We are running an Ethertalk
>network, but the Chooser does not show any zones or servers, when AppleShare
>is selected. It looks like it thinks the machine is connected to Localtalk
>- but when I check the Network control panel it still shows
> Ethertalk selected. The only remedy seems to be
>turning off and restarting the computer.
>If you know about this problem, please mail me at
>tbs@login.dkuug.dk
>Torben B. Sorensen
>Computerworld, Denmark

I have not had any such problems with my docking.  I did have some real
problems with some Shiva software.  Most of those problems went away when I
re-installed System 7.1 from the original disks.  You might try the same.

Also, did you have any problems getting the ethernet card into the dock?  I
tried an Apple ethernet card, and a 3com card.  Niether one would fit in the
little opening in the back of the dock.  I had to twist off a little screw
post with a wrench to get it to fit.  Why did they make the cutout in the
back of the dock so small?

-Bob

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From: lgorbet@triton.unm.edu (Larry P Gorbet ANTHROPOLOGY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 21M Flopticals?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 02:47:58 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: triton.unm.edu
Keywords: flopticals, removable disks

In article <C1GwHL.Bn5@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> stuart@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Stuart Marlin) writes:

>Most of you are missing the point of the original posting...
>For those of us with a Plus or other non FDHD machine we can
>1) upgrade to an LC or some such thing (but the temptation is to go to 
>at least a Ci)
>2) purchase an external FDHD drive (to be MSDOS compatable as well as 
>to transfer data or programs from work to home) at a cost of $300 yech.
>3) purchase a floptical at (latest price $339) which gives you a FDHD 
>compatable drive and some extra storage as well.
>4) buy a syquest and still not have a 1.44 drive or MSDOS compatability.
>The question is then this:
>
>Are the damn things any good or is it good money after bad (or at least 
>old technology). 
>and ANYONE who has bought one or knows something first had should reply 
>before there are a lot of people in a bad way.

I'm using a PLI 21M floptical with a Mac Plus.  The access to HD
(1.44M) diskettes was a factor in my decision.  The speed is about
twice that of floppies.  They are the quietest mass storage device I
own when just reading or writing (i.e. quieter than floppies or a 240M
Quantum or other older HD's).  The floptical drive came with a
frustratingly slow formatting utility (maybe 20 min. to format a
diskette).  Fortunately, before I formatting more flopticals, I
downloaded a later version (3.7) of the formatter from the PLI BBS (the
number is in the manual)---it formats a 21M floptical in about 6
minutes.  That sounds like a long time, but remember that you have
about 24 800k floppies worth of space.  I've used it for a 75M or so
backup (with Diskfit Pro), and it was a true pleasure not to be a
floppy-swapping slave.  I can't speak to reliability, though I would
*suspect* they are more reliable than Syquests and less reliable than
reputable magneto-opticals.

The best price, BTW, that I found for floptical disks was from Maya
(5/$125 plus $3 Airborne shipping, a bit less for 10x, more for
singles).  If anybody *knows* of a place where you can get them for
$20 per or less, some of us would like to hear about it....
From: temple@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: If only the PB100 came back 
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:18:21 EST
Distribution: na,world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati


In article <1993Jan27.012100.3597@ncsu.edu>, smisra@eos.ncsu.edu (SAURABH MISRA) writes:
> The IIsi is now cheaper than a Powerbook 100!! (J&R Music World)
> 
> That means that people really really would like a CHEAP Powerbook. They
> don't care if it is only a 68000 or if it has no internal floppy disk.
> Just a portable Macintosh that they can use the occasional (or frequent)
> times they need it away from their desktop machine.  If a new Powerbook
> was realeased with only a 16Mhz 68000 (but with the similiar PB design)
> and WITH AN INTERNAL FLOPPY drive, and was priced under $800 I bet it
> would be the hit of the decade.  $800 is not an unreasonable figure for
> the Powerbook with an internal drive.  Just 3 months ago you could get
> a 100 with an external floppy NEW for a little less than that.
> 
> So with prices getting cheaper and cheaper for technology,
> it may even be possible to make the Powerbook 150? that would 
> have a 16Mhz 68030 and still be under that price.  THAT would REALLY be the
> sellout of the century.  But for some reason all the new powerbooks cost
> at least $2000 and have features that are nice but they are not a necessity.
> Most of all many people just can't justify spending $2000 for a second
> Mac.  And the fact that your portable is most powerful than your desktop
> may be a point that many don't get the 145 or 160. And getting a new Duo
> System may be too much for many.   
> 
> I hope Apple is reading this.  If you agree with this just post a one liner
> followup.........
> 
> Saurabh


Okay, I agree.  I bought a PB100 as a second mac, and the $699 I paid 
for it was the only other issue.  I don't care about the speed --- it 
is a SECOND mac.  I love having it.
From: Michael.Davidson@macrocosm.omahug.org (Michael Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac+ RAM upgrade
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:23:45 CST
Reply-To: michael.davidson@macrocosm.omahug.org
Organization: The MacRocosm BBS, Lawrence, KS
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

Recently, Bob Feldman wondered why his plus did not like his new simms:

  BF> We have a Mac Plus which we'd like to upgrade to 1 MB SIMMS. We
  BF> ordered SIMMS by mail, but were unable to get them working,
  BF> either with 100 ns or 70 ns SIMMs. Should either of these work?
  BF> Is there a switch that needs to be changed in the Mac Plus when
  BF> going from 1/4 MB to 1MB SIMMs? 
  BF> 
  BF> The 100 ns SIMMs caused the system not to boot. The 70 ns SIMMs
  BF> caused it to boot and hang. The vendor claims both sets of SIMMS
  BF> tested OK when we returned them.

Both 70 & 100 ns simms should work fine in the plus, but you have to clip a
resistor when you go to 4mb. I think it's numbered 35 and says 256 (and very
near the edge of the motherboard), but I would have to look it up. (I know what
to do when I'm looking at the board, I just cannot remember).

Hope this helps,
Liberty,
Michael


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From: jonkatz@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jonathan W. Katz)
Subject: 68LC040 and SoftwareFPU
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 15:35:24 GMT

Subject line pretty much says it all.  Do you think it'll work?


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