HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF: BRC or ERC?
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:24:23 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of 1 Oct 92 20:16:09 GMT

>>>>> On 1 Oct 92 20:16:09 GMT, tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss) said:
Tim> I have one last chance to take the courses in the month of
Tim> October.  There are a few openings left if both the Beginning
Tim> Rider Course and the Experienced Rider Course, but I have to
Tim> sign up *now* if I want to get into one.  My question to any
Tim> of you experienced riders, is which one I should sign up for?

The MRC:RSS (what you refer to as the beginning course) will teach you
a lot more.  Some of it will be very basic and perhaps boring to you
(I assume that you know how to perform basic riding maneuvers).  The
advantage to taking the MRC:RSS is that you get the chance to review
your riding technique from the ground up.  The feedback you will get
can be quite valuable.

The ERC presumes a lot about basic riding skills.  Sure, ERC students
all know how to ride in a straight line, turn, shift, and stop before
they come to the course.  The problem is that there is no chance in
the curriculum to discuss the TECHNIQUES associated with these skills.
Instead you launch right into the accident avoidance skills critical
for street operation, the same skills taught in the second half of the
MRC:RSS (using different exercises, classroom, and your own
motorcycle).

I had been riding for about 10 years when I took my first MRC:RSS.  I
took it because the insurance discount I sought was not offered to ERC
graduates (at the time).  I was bored the first day, especially in the
classroom, but I survived the experience.  On the range, I picked up a
few points, most of the stuff we covered in the first day was review
and I still felt it was a waste of time.  It wasn't until I took the
ERC the following year that I realized how much the basic techniques I
had picked up impacted ALL aspects of my riding.

If you have never had any formal training and you can take the time to
review all of your riding skills, take the MRC:RSS.  There will be
rider education in Md again in the near future, and you can count on
that!  Then you can take the ERC.  You will enjoy the ERC more as an
MRC:RSS graduate and probably learn a lot more to boot.

There is nothing in the ERC that should be a problem for you.  The
experience you mentioned is certainly sufficient.  The important
question for you to ask yourself is "What am I trying to get out of
Motorcycle Rider Education?".  If the answer is "As much as possible",
take the MRC:RSS.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW K100rs & Boxer sound bite
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:56:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: devnull.2560
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]]82hp from '86 on? sorry, my K100 is rated at 100hp. 95 w/the cat...
]Rated by who? If you look at the BMW marketing collateral since 1985 -
]why by gosh, they all seem to be rated at 100hp! In the April 1991
]issue, Cycle measured the 4-valve on the Kerker dyno and got a max bhp of
]82.9. I seem to remember when they did the California 2-valve they got 
]a max of around 75 which puts the Eurospec '85 around the same hp as the 
]4-valve (which matches my subjective opinion riding my bike with the Luft
]pipe along with friends on the newer bikes).

I quoted the BMW crank figures. you'd think I (and you) would remember to
clarify after all the other HP discussions that had gone on.

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:59:53 GMT
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.

In article <1992Sep28.143440.29834@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
>The problem is not reconfiguring the engine (am I a weenie or what?) for
>a long term change in fuel.  The problem is having to adjust your jetting
>each time you fill the tank on a trip!
>
>If my engine is set up for regular fuel and I ride through a mandatory
>alcohol state, I'll have to rejet or damage my engine.  Further down
>the road and I may have to rejet again.  Get the picture?

        This is one reason that I will be building a MAS-based EFI setup for
my bike sometime in the near future.  No more jetting worries--the hot wire
(or semiconductor sensor) and the O2 sensor take care of the mixture for you.

Trying to find a spare moment,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114  KotHLF    1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	            1975 CB360T (needs a name)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
From: rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Model list
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:54:13 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications


Protar, an Italian kit maker, used to do a nice Laverda SFC 750 kit, but they
semm to be as rare as hen's teeth. If anyone knows of a UK supplier, I am
interested.


Regards,

============================================================================
Richard Taylor                 DoD #981               (rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk)
"I won't take the Granite State for granted" B. Clinton. Worst pun so far...
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
From: merenda@romulus.rutgers.edu (Kill Bon Jovi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: JIFFY CONDOMS (was re: full face DoD)
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:42:41 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

[article about jiffy condoms and article about helmets deleted]

I am looking at my jiffy condom shirt, and since there was a 
previous refrence to it, i figured that i would fill you all 
in on what mine says-

ON THE FRONT- (yes, all of this)

How to put on a condom: (idiot proof instructions)
     First check that you have a willy.
     Make sure  willy os NOT in a droopy, sloppy position.
     (TEST: Try hanging your coat on it.)
     Roll condom onto willy. (Ladies with long fingernails
     please note: this is a sensitive area.)

   WELL DONE! YOU'VE GOT IT ON!
   NOW, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT?

HOW TO REMOVE A CONDOM:

   Method 1: Wait for 30 minutes until the damn thing falls off.
   Method 2: Throw a bucket of water over yourself.
   Method 3: Squat down. Put soggy end under your foot. 
             Stand up sharply.
   Method 4: Entice the dog into a game of 'DOG-PULL'
   Method 5: Throw a bucket of water over the dog.
   Method 6: Carefully slash away at the condom with a
             cut throat razor (note: REAL men do it blindfolded!)

-------------------
now for the back of the shirt-

NEVER USE YOUR JIFFY MORE THAN ONCE!

(full instructions for use inside)

------------------------------------

well, that's it, i hope that you all enjoyed it!

it cheered me up a little, after some F**K pushed over MY BIKE, into
MY CAGE, no less, less than 15 minutes after i got home! welcome 
to nNew Jersey. at least there was no damage to my bike, and just
a little to my cage, (broken marker light), could have been 
worse. could have been better, too, i could have seen who did it. 
(what were you guys saying about .22's????)

Peace, everyone, ride safe.

-Frank "Still waiting for my DoD#" Merenda-

I WANT! I WANT! I WANT! I WANT! I WANT!
From: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Paying for Damages on Borrowed Ride (was something else)
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:09:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1893
Reply-To: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <1602@adpplz.UUCP> martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding) writes:

>So when I loan it to people, I show them how to work the starter (which
>on Viragos gets old and dies), and tell them to drive carefully (you can't
>get high squid ratings on Viragos) and hand them the keys. As long as they
>survive, I'm happy. And I don't lay awake nights, except for wondering, a
>little, if someone killed my Virago, what would Carol put in its place?
>
>CX500's are of similar type, right, Dave?

In many people's opinion, probably.  Not in mine.  I like the CX500.
The CX500 is my friend.

Oops, wrong thread.  But seriously, that's how I feel about it.  It's
a tough friend that can endure a crash at the hands of another friend
without much more than slight frazzlement.

I learned to ride on that bike, and it and I have grown slightly
older together.  We've been through three, count 'em, three engine
pulls together.  How could I think of DISCARDING such a source
of treasured experience?  It was only in the last few years that I
began to look at other bikes with an eye to acquire a new mount.
So look what happened.  I got a charming Italian cycle, and kept the CX.
The Guzzi is for pure riding pleasure, and the CX is to run and
run and run, even through crashes, and still manage to be pleasant
and reliable.  In addition, if I got rid of Packy, I'd have to get
something else anyway, as Sandy won't passenge on anything without
a backrest.  Hmm, wonder if I can find another low-miles VFR750F
for $2800 like the one I passed up this spring?

>So toss the contracts, and pick up an emergency replacement motorcycle
>that nobody loves.

Or a well-loved one that's tough and resilient.

>And when people come to town, the locals will move
>heaven and earth to find them some other motorcycle.
>
>It is a little bit annoying to have a motorcycle you own be outshown
>by a Honda 750 four, but if it's a Virago, who cares?

A spotless perfectly-running faceless-four beats a grimy grinding
sputtering Harley tried-to-be in my book.  Clean 'er up and fix 'er
up, and she'll do some outshining right back.

[Fascist Pnews made me delete Martin's .sig .]

--
David Wise	davewi@orca.wv.tek.com
DoD#427		1980 CX500C (Packy), 1976 Guzzi 850-T3
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From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Helmet Replacement Interval
Keywords: helmet, replacement
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:59:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.151946.1235@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) writes:
>>	The recommendation used to be every two years, but I noticed the
>>other day that my "new" Arai Giga had a stamp on the chinstrap "Replace helmet
>>after 5 years use" owtte (In Germany, "Replace Helmut after 10 years use" :-).
>
This has gotta depend on the helmet material. Here's my guess - the short 
life is for fiberglass which ages/dries out faster than the 
plastic/kevlar combos. How 'bout it? Let's hear from the chemists.

>German years are shorter than years in other countries? Now about that
>"3 year" BMW warranty...
And now that you mention it - when I asked about my *BMW* S3 helmet - the 
dealer said it should last 10-20 years. Add it to the list of things you 
can get for your BMW you can't for your Yamaha. (Of course they be in short 
supply for now unless you're willing to go to Europe. Back to the price-is-
no-object thread.) Oh, that 3 year warranty bike also comes with a Cross 
Country membership and an MSF course. (Oops, sucked in again, drat.)

-John
============================================================================
                            John S. Morris  #0316
  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
                           Ride: K100RS Cage: 320i 
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From: veikko@vipunen.hut.fi (Vesa J Pyyluoma)
Subject: Re: Sorry Joe (was: GTS1000 gif picture 0/1 (description))
Organization: Veikon Kone
	<2515@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>
Date: 28 Sep 92 07:08:02

In article <2515@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner) writes:

 > ]Sorry Joe,

 > garsh dangit! (don't want to offend Mr. Ball) you NEVER apologize in this 
 > newsgroup! NEVER NEVER NEVER! doing so indicates a susceptability to flames!

yikes! err... ok, ok, i'm *sorry* that i apologized... argh! blew it again...

nevermind,
--
Vesa Pyyluoma
veikko@vipunen.hut.fi
In Finland we have this thing called reilu meininki.
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From: shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
Subject: Re: Risk takers
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 05:35:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns) writes:
> 
>>Risk-taking is another form of male sexual display.  The Project Mercury
>>astronauts had no shortage of female companionship.
> 
>Is risk-taking a form of male display?  What about the ladies who are
>out there riding at "risk-taking" speeds.  Who are they displaying for?

I would say that risk-taking is one form of male display. But that does
not mean that all risk-taking is male display. I'll give you an example
to show what I mean. An exhibitionist removes their clothes for
sexual gratification. But that does not mean that everyone who
removes their clothes is an exhibitionist. Some people do it just
to take a shower, or sit in a hot tub. And just because some people
remove their clothes for practical reasons does not mean that 
exhibitionists are not doing it for sexual gratification.


-- 
Lissa
shoun@netcom.com     (408) 926-0812
From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:55:22 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com



How about a 87 Suzuki Savage with low miles?

Bought 1 for my wife $1800  ~4k miles.
650 single cylinder four stroke,  cruiser style.
Belt drive
Fun bike. As you can imagine, lots of torque.

--
Jack Tavares    KotHO DoD# 0570 BMWMOA# 58278 AMA# 651191 BMWRA# 16087
83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
Sorry, but at DoD minimum speed it is impossible to speak. There is just 
too much wind noise.  At that speed I am spending all my concentration 
allowance on riding, and cannot afford anymore thought for words.
However, when I finish a ride and the bike is in the garage cooling down, 
the single word that comes to mind is:

    BEER.
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From: csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott)
Subject: Re: calling mature riders
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:45:29 GMT

noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry) writes:


>this (ok, last) summer, my 55-year old uncle told me he is
>considering getting into motorcycling (finally, a family
>ally!).  however, he is concerned that he is too old to start.

>a of the mental and attitude "skills" that are important in
>motorcycling.

>can riders who started relatively late in life offer some
>words of encouragement to my uncle?

>noemi
>*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
>noemi@cs.ucla.edu (for now)     				KotSBL
>DoD #443  						'82 KZ 305 CSR
>	NM (Next Motorcycle) countdown: $3000 left to go :-(
>*---------------------------------------------------------------------*

Pick up a good, used, mid-weight bike, (350-550 cc), practice, take an
MSF course, practice, practice, practice, take the MSF ERC course,

...repeat forever ...
S.
-- 
   #   Scott Lilliott - csl@swl.msd.ray.com                            #
    #   AMA #600897             "If you push something hard enough,   #
     #   DoD #0227               It will fall over."                 #
      #   INOA #8563                       -- Fudd's First Law      #
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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Glove recommendations
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 09:35:46 GMT

I use Frank Thomas Aqua gloves.

They're Leather, good looking, very warm, very comfortable and waterproof.

Also, they're made in the UK!

Cost was about thirty pounds, I think.  This is my second pair.  I put holes in
the first pair using them for chain-sawing and general log-involved things
when I lived in Ecosse and had a log fuelled central heating system.

I usually bike throughout the year, I did when I was in Ecosse and that got
quite chilly!


Nick (the Weatherproofed Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford

M'Lud
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:33:02 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

> In article <1992Sep24.040416.8993@riacs.edu> dschlot@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Dave Schlotthauer) writes:
> 
>Did I do the right things? What should I have done different? I'm
>thinking now that it was wrong to go to my own house, but should I 
>have gone into a neighbors driveway?


Dave

Relax, there is a good chance that the goons thought you were merely pulling
over for a confrontation, they may not have made the assumtion that the
driveway is where you live.    The fact that 3 guys did not take you on
implies that they had some misgivings of their own about hassling you any
more.   If you had led them on enough of a chase and they were in unknown
(for them) territory, they may not be able to even figure out which street
it was let alone which house.   I assume that you do not park your bike in
view of the street,  so they have not much to go on if they do come back
looking for you.  Remember, it was you that they were intent on, not the
house.

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Thphey,  ithn't that a theerthucker |
 | DoD# 541   'Disciples of Daffy'    |  thuit?"         Daffy Duck          |
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From: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup)
Subject: Re: Honda Nighthawk 250 info wanted
Organization: pnet
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:17:48 GMT

fantini%boot.decnet@edwards-tems.af.mil writes:
: 
: 
: 	(1) Be able to cruise at 70 MPH on the freeway.
: 	    (What is the quarter mile speed/time? 0-60 time? Top speed?)
	
	Why 70? The limit it 55!!!  A Nighthawk 250 eh? 70 mph. Sure,
it'll do it. As long as you don't mind listening to it scream along at
some 6000 or more rpm. 

: 	(2) Have at least 200 mile cruising range. I believe it has
: 	    a 4.2 gallon tank. What is the average Mi/gal?

	Considering that it's a 250, it probably get's 50+ mpg. So with 4
gallons of gas there's you 200 miles. 

: 	(3) Be simple and reliable.
	
	It about as simple as they come. Air cooled 250 twin. No frills.
Much like the Rebel was. In fact, aren't they the same motors? I think so.  
It's one of the oldest and most reliable Honda designs. 

: I have most interest to hear what the net has to say about this motorcycle
: as an article in "Cycle" gave it a poor review stating that "the -250
: should give more to the beginner in terms of features."
: 
	Well it's cheap. It's a no frills bike. Period. 

: I saw the thread about the Honda XR250L stalling on throttle closing. Does
: the Nighthawk suffer the same problem?
: 
	Nope. That stalling seems to be a common theme amoung the Honda
singles. I too have an NX-650 and it has demonstrated some of the stalling
episodes as well. Someone else mentioned theirs did too. 


 ==============================================================================
  Erik Astrup                   DOD #683                            AFM #422

  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1988 NX-650  *  1980 GL1100 Interstate

      "This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap
 ==============================================================================
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough bullshit!  Here's some REAL news...
Date: 4 Oct 1992 20:52:06 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) said:
:- its nice to know that i am haunting you from afar, newbie scum. 
:- 
:- -- bob pasker

	i would suggest "amusing" to replace "haunting"!

	peace,

	- ravi


-- 
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sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one : Ravi Narayan - ravi@cs.wpi.edu
          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
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From: keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Trailers (was Re: For Sale: 1984 BMW R80RT)
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:57:36 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa

In article <1992Sep30.102128.16998@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>I, Keith wrote:
>: In Toronto, Ontario but with Florida registration (will import to
>: Canada if necessary):
[...]
>: 
>: Willing to sell trailer and hitch separately
>: 
>: Asking US$3500, trailer included.
>: 
>: Call for a photo - Edward 416-638-2774
>
>Hiya Keith!
>
>I didn't know that you had a trailered bike.

Hi Nick!

I don't. The posting was for a Dutch friend - hence "Edward". My wife
would love to have a trailer - both for the capacity and because she
believes it would slow me down. Erk! Not my taste.

>Nice to know that other bikers tow trailers.
Most of the people I know opt for hacks rather than trailers.

Regards,
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From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: RFD: talk.politics.medicine
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:37:11 GMT


In article <1992Sep26.232504.13599@eskimo.celestial.com>, delisle@eskimo.celestial.com (Ben Delisle) writes:
> This is a request for discussion for the creation of one new 
> news group:
>  
>      Proposed Title:  talk.politics.medicine  

     Has the EPA done anything about political emmisions? It seems to
me that all the B.S. would generate a hell of a lot of methane.


Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

*************************************************************
   "Never trust anyone in a cage, if they weren't nuts
    they'd be on a scoot like anybody else."
                        Grandmother
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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:53:25 GMT

In article <txd.717886079@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
|
|Ayep, and the Concours doesn't get a mention either... Funny, a ZX-10
|motor, no noticeable shaft effect, and a design that's been virtually
|the same for 6 years now. Parts are a piece of cake 

I'll differ with you there, Tom.  Try, just try to get a radiator 
for a Concours at this very moment.  There is one, only one, and 
it is now winging it's way across my dealer's floor.  They had to 
put it on a boat, somewhere in Japan, about a month ago, and it is
likely to finally be on my motorcycle on Wednesday of next week,
after over a month of waiting (and not riding).  Why they do not
stock Concours radiators in this country, I don't know.  But I
do know that I have the only one presently here, and the next guy
is going to have to wait *another* month for his.

I think Kawasaki has some oriental equivalent of Guiseppe, somewhere.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Looking up!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Almost there)        |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
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