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From: rlward1@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Robert Ward)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Grand Army of the Republic Records
Summary: Want existence and/or source for G.A.R. post records.
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:06:48 GMT
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Organization: National Computer Security Center


   A friend has an ancestor who was a member of a particular post of the 
Grand Army of the Republic, in Minnesota.  This was an organization of Union 
Civil War veterans more or less analogous to the current American Legion.  
My friend knows the location and post number.  He would like to know if the 
records of such posts, and this one in particular, are still in existence, 
and if so, where they might be accessed.

   Any ideas on this?  More details will be supplied if necessary.  

				Robert L. Ward		

Researching:
 LAY (all USA), PRINCE (NJ/NB), CHAPMAN (CT/NY/NH), GIRAUD/GEROW (NY/NB),
 BARNES (CT/NY), YORK/YERXA/JURCKSE (NY/NJ/CT/NB), WHITNEY (MA/CT/VT),
 and many, many other New England lines. 

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Researching:
 LAY (all USA), PRINCE (NJ/NB), CHAPMAN (CT/NY/NH), GIRAUD/GEROW (NY/NB),
 BARNES (CT/NY), YORK/YERXA/JURCKSE (NY/NJ/CT/NB), WHITNEY (MA/CT/VT),
 and many, many other New England lines. 
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Reply-To:     KEN BLAZEK <kblazek@INLAND.COM>
From:         KEN BLAZEK <kblazek@INLAND.COM>
Subject:      Latin translation help
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I recently ran across the following latin (I believe it is latin) description
of a relative in a birth record from Prague, Czechoslovakia in 1852.  It
described the relatives father as "patentals invalid(a)".  This same
description was used in the father's death record.  Any help on this would
be appreciated.


Ken Blazek
kblazek@inland.com
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Reply-To:     Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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From:         Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PASSENGER LISTS
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Martin--

There are a couple of options available to you, especially since you have
most of the important information already:

1]  You could request the appropriate films through a local LDS Family
History Center.  The cost per film is roughly $3.00.

2]  You could request the lists directly from the National Archives for
$10.00 by filling out NARS Form 80.  I don't have the address with me at
the moment but I know I've seen in posted several times on ROOTS-L.  This
is probably the most time intensive method but I received huge 18 by 24
inch copies that were very readable.   You can charge the request to a
credit card and the process is a little faster.

3]  The National Archives also has a microfilm rental program.  It is
$20.00 to join I believe, and then you pay to rent each film you're
interested in.  I think it is $2.50 a roll.  The more you order the less
expensive/roll it is.

Hope this helps.  I can expand on any of these further if you like.

Lisa Oberg
lisanne@u.washington.edu

On Sat, 21 Nov 1992 MILLERM%SUVM.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu wrote:

> Could someone tell me how to obtain copies of passenger lists for
> ships that arrived in New York and Baltimore during the period
> 1910-1915.  I know the names of the ships and the arrrival dates.
> Thanks.
>
> Martin Miller
> millerm@suvm.bitnet
> millerm@suvm,cat.syr.edu
From: donald@avpit20.rtp.dg.com (Donald L. Shepherd)
Subject: Re: For Dorothy Boyd-Rush (mail bounced)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:54:45 GMT
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Organization: Data General Corp., Pittsburgh, Pa.
Keywords: Heidelberg Township

In article <1992Nov11.160734.29465@ameris.ameritech.com>, rwarr@ameris.ameritech.com (Robert E. Warren) writes:
|> In soc.roots you write:
|> 
|> > I have reason to believe that a marriage between Johann Karl Risch and Anna
|> > Elizabeth Suess occurred in Heidleberg Township in Pennsylvania. What would be
|> > the best place to seek out this information.  I forgot to add that I believe
|> > they were married in 1752. Where is Heidleberg located, then and now? 
|> > Thanks to all in advance.
|> > Dorothy Boyd-Rush
|> > Harrisonburg, Virginia
|> > 
|> Dorothy --
|> 
|> First the bad news -- there are multiple Heidelberg Townships in PA.  The
|> good news is that there were fewer of them in 1752.  The one I know something
|> about is in what is now Lehigh County (Allentown is the county seat).  In
|> 1752 it was in Northhampton Co. (before it split into Northhampton and 
|> Lehigh).  Heidelberg township is in the northwest part of Lehigh County.
|> One of my ancestors (Christian Loughner) settled in Heidelberg Township in
|> 1751 near a little town named Lehigh Furnace.  Aside from land records,
|> the main records I have found useful are the Heidelberg church records.
|> This church was a 'union' church, serving Lutheran and Reformed congregations.
|> I have some of the church records copied, and I will look for Risch & Suess,
|> but my records are not complete.  The Lehigh Co. Historical Soc. in
|> Allentown has a transcribed copy of the records and could look for you.
|> 
|> Bob Warren
|> rwarr@ameris.center.il.ameritech.com
|> 
There is also a Heidelberg a few miles south of Pittsburgh, in Allegheny 
County. I am not sure if it is a borough or township. I hope this helps.


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From: cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU (Christine M. Darby)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Library Guides
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:23:09 GMT
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1992, Brad Green wrote:

> To answer the question about Internet libraries, there's a file on the
> listserv, GENEALOG INTERLIB, that's about 59.2k long.

There  are a number of sources avilable for internet access of libraries,
including Billy Barrons guide(FTP to ftp.unt.edu) and Art St.George (sorry
don't have that one at hand).  Also there's a couple of resources
available through different academic libaries.  Hytelnet and Lib-tel come
to mind.  These are often available through the computing systems at the
college/university and allow direct access to libraries. More questions,
let me know.  I've a lot of info on this at home, which is where I am not
right now.

Good Luck

Chris Darby
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:37:49 -0500
Reply-To:     "Allen R. Watts" <usr12138@TSO.UC.EDU>
From:         "Allen R. Watts" <usr12138@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      Ky-Boone County
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.EDU

Robert, I could not find any information on Horace McClung, Elizabeth Carr, or
Edmond D. Mills, in the Boone County Newspaper.  This is for the period of
1875 up to 1891.
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:27:06 GMT
Reply-To:     VIVIEN HICK <HICKC89@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
From:         VIVIEN HICK <HICKC89@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Subject:      Ron Field
Comments: To: Roots-L@ndsuvm1.bitnet

Sorry to send this to the list.
Would Ron Field please contact me as the mail which I sent him has been returne
d.
Vivien Hick
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From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: Civil War Nurses:
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:30:52 GMT

Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU> writes:
>Are there any books or other information about the Civil War nurses??

One minute with our library catalogue turned up at least three books.
Since you're at the University of California, your catalogue is likely
to turn up a heck of a lot more material than ours;  I suggest that you
might want to try other keywords, like "nursing" and "historical".

E621      Ropes, Hannah Anderson.
.R6630    Civil War nurse : the diary and letters of Hannah Ropes / edited,
 Gen        with introd. and commentary by John R. Brumgardt. 1st ed.
            Knoxville : University of Tennessee Press, c1980.
          xiv, 149 p. : port. ; 23 cm.
          Bibliography: p. 139-144.
          Includes index.
          ISBN: 0-87049-280-2 :

E621      Holland, Mary A. Gardner.
.H730     Our army nurses. Interesting sketches, addresses, and photographs
 Linc       of nearly one hundred of the noble women who served in
            hospitals and on battlefields during our Civil War. Compiled by
            Mary A. Gardner Holland. Boston, Mass. : B. Wilkins & Co.,
            1895.
          548 p. incl. front. illus., pl., port. 23 cm.

E621      Maher, Mary Denis.
.M340     To bind up the wounds : Catholic sister nurses in the U.S. Civil
1989        War / Mary Denis Maher. New York : Greenwood Press, 1989.
 Gen      x, 178 p. ; ill. ; 25 cm.
          Series: Contributions in women's studies, 0147-104X ; no. 107
          Includes bibliographical references (p. [161]-174).
          ISBN: 0-313-26458-9 (lib. bdg. : alk. paper)


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Ellen Keyne Seebacher \/             elle@midway.uchicago.edu
From: bm455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bradley N. Deacon)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: NH birth records
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:55:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone know if NH has (or would have) birth records back
to 1805?  I'm looking for a birth record of a woman born there
in 1805, and I sent a letter asking if they even have records
back that far, and I got back the form letter with the box
checked  for 'no money sent'.  I would gladly send the money if
I knew if they even had any records to look through, it's just
that I know my  gradn mother, b.1911 in Mich, was never given
a birth record because she was a girl and they didn't always
"bother" to register girls.
Anybody?  
Thanks, Brad.
From: cmackay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Carol MacKay)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Warren Duclos message bounced
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:09:58 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Warren:  I have been unable to reply to your request for Cincinnati index 
records because anything I send comes back "bounced"...with the message 
illegal end of route address...

Carol MacKay              cmackay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:21:17 CST
Reply-To:     Bill Green <green@plains.nodak.edu>
From:         Brad Green <green@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU>
Subject:      New library files
Comments: To: Genealogy Discussion List <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.Edu>

Since the library files seem to be very, very large, I've come across
two files that are a little more reasonable (although not as informative).
They are now on the listserv as "GENEALOG LIB-ADDR" which is a list of
several hundred Internet accessable libraries with their addresses, both
IP and alphabetic. The second file is "GENEALOG LIBCONTX", which is a list
of administrative contacts at the libraries (email addresses).  These
two files are a lot smaller and easily printed out, so if you want a list
of libraries, without all the login information and technical stuff, these
are for you.

Get them two ways:

1) email to LISTSERV@vm1.nodak.edu with the message "get GENEALOG LIB-ADDR"
or "get GENEALOG LIBCONTX".  No subject line is needed, but be sure to send
the message to LISTSERV and not ROOTS-L.

2) ftp to vm1.nodak.edu, use directory ROOTS-L and get the files.  Note that
ftp requires the use of the period "." after GENEALOG, while the LISTSERV
uses a space.

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|               Lamb   NC/KS  1851-         Maxwell  NY  1800-         |
|               Wilson IN/IL  1871-         Hediger -  Swiss           |
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From: pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith)
Subject: software to track geneology
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:20:37 GMT

Can anyone recommend Macintosh software to track geneology?  Thanks in advance.
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From:         HEBELER@UDAVXB.OCA.UDAYTON.EDU
Subject:      Family News Network
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@Vm1.NoDak.Edu

I have just received an announcement of a genealogy book entitled
"HEBELERS SINCE THE CIVIL WAR"published by the FAMILY NEWS NETWORK, 1181 S.
Parker Rd. #102, Denver, Colorado. It "indexes most of the family, complete
with birth and death dates and places, as well as current records." Sells
for $23 (save $7 off the regular price of $30)." Has anyone heard of the FAMILY
 NEWS NETWORK and its publication on families since the Civil War ?

BITNET: HEBELER@DAYTON
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:48:21 -0500
Reply-To:     Kevin Kamphaus <usr5066a@TSO.UC.EDU>
From:         Kevin Kamphaus <usr5066a@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      Figgins
Comments: To: roots-l@ndsuvm1.bitnet

I have a friend who is researching the Figgins name.  Anyone who has any
information on the Figgins name please E-Mail me at:


                     usr5066a@tso.uc.edu


Thanks,
Kevin Kamphaus
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:50:18 -0600
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Subject:      GenServ Genealogical Server available - NOW !
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Roots-L Readers:         (and the readers of Usenet soc.roots)


Sunday, 22 November 1992


With this message, I announce a new "GenServ" Genealogical Server
which is available now, and ready for use.

Please READ THE ATTACHED "help" file.
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Please note below that the GEDCOM 5.0 Specs are available now to
anyone requesting them.

Good luck to all.    Cliff Manis




         |=======================================================|
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The 'genserv' mail archive server is a service which allows requests
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are now available to anyone requesting them and using the syntax as
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:03:22 -0500
Reply-To:     "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU>
From:         "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: court records
Comments: To: "J.P. Letellier" <jp@wizard.nrl.navy.mil>
Comments: cc: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

On Fri, 20 Nov 1992, J.P. Letellier wrote:

> >
> > Can someone tell me where old probate records are kept.  Are these of
> > city, county or state jurisdiction?  Can old wills be seen (old as in
> > 1790-1840).  Does one have to go in person or will court offices check and
> > send copies assuming one knows the date of death?
> >
>       Depends on the State.
> Just go to the local court house and look for the records section.  They
have wills, court cases,deeds, tax records, etc..  Ask somebody there how
the records areindexed;

That's the part which creates the problem.  Many of these counties are a
distance BUT more importantly  (at least in New York) the era from 1785
to roughly 1820 found county lines shifting continually as areas were
reformed.  Logically one would think that land, for instance, would be
recorded in its current jurisdiction, with older records moved to it.  Yet
I've been told that land records are with the county  where the land was
originally deeded at the time it was recorded.  When ownership changed the
deed was recorded in the new jurisdiction.  Thus in which county would
death records be, the county at the time of death, or the county of
current jurisdiction.  It gets real messy.

Thanks

Chris Darby
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 15:25:58 CST
Reply-To:     "Darin is here..." <nipper@VAX1.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU>
From:         "Darin is here..." <nipper@VAX1.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:      Normandin Family
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Hello fellow rooters!
I am looking for any information on the Normandin family. The family moved
from Quebec to Keeseville,NY then to Illinois (Kankakee Co.). Thank you in
advance.
Darin Flansburg
nipper@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu

Also researching: Longtin, LaValle, Flansburg, Witherow, Lamborn, Whitney,
Cody, Swayne, Bratt (Vanderzee).
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:32:15 EST
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From:         "J.P. Letellier" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      court records
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>
> Can someone tell me where old probate records are kept.  Are these of
> city, county or state jurisdiction?  Can old wills be seen (old as in
> 1790-1840).  Does one have to go in person or will court offices check and
> send copies assuming one knows the date of death?
>
        Depends on the State.  The oldest records in Maryland for instance
have been moved to the State Archives.  The other records (after 1800
maybe) still reside at the court houses.  Just go to the local court
house and look for the records section.  They have wills, court cases,
deeds, tax records, etc..  Ask somebody there how the records are
indexed; it is quite easy to find wha you are looking for once you get
the hang of the indexing system.
jp
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From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: Mosser Family, Berks & Lehigh Cos., PA
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:42:41 GMT

In article <ROOTS-L%92111806521671@VM1.NODAK.EDU> Bob Oliphant 
 <oliphant@BBN.COM> writes:
>Last Friday I found an ancestor, George Mosser (b. c. 1756 or 1761, d.
>19 Jan 1826 or 1825), who served in the Revolutionary War and lived in
>Berks and/or Lehigh Cos., PA.  [Lists typically German first names...]
>I suspect he is of German ancestry. ...  Before I do much more
>digging on George, I wondered if anyone in ROOTS-L/soc.roots land could
>give me some pointers to specific information on this family.

Absolutely.  I strongly suspect that you've run into the same family which
provided the Mussers of Lancaster County, right next door.  My ancestor
is Frena Musser, born early 1700s, and I have very little information on
her personally -- but the histories of Lancaster County I've been browsing
are overrun with Musser names.  :)

(Since Frena Musser is supposed to have married Abraham Herr, son of
the Hans Herr who arrived with his son Christian and their friend
Martin Kuendig c. 1710, the Mussers were almost certainly among the
Swiss-German Mennonite families which originated in Zuerich canton.)

Anyone who has information on Mossers or Mussers:  I'd love to talk.

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  Currently researching:  BERG, BOMBERGER, COBLE, DARIG, ERISMAN, GEUNDER, 
  HABECKER, HERR, HERSCHE/HERSHEY, KAUFFMAN, KENDIG, KLINE, LAMERE, MUSSER, 
  NEWCOMMER, SHELLENBURGER, WITMER (early Pennsylvania Germans, mostly Swiss)

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