HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Airport security
Date: 9 Nov 1992 11:53 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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> I had to make an emergency trip to Miami from Atlanta... I realized I 
> had checked my briefcase and was carrying my toolbag.  It had gone 
> through x-rays and metal detectors with nary a beep. 

Figures.  In my experience, Hartsfield has about the most relaxed
security posture around.  Once (pre-Lockerbie, I must admit) I went
through the detectors there with a prototype serial switch about
the size of a twenty-dollar pizza under my arm.  The guard looked
at the switch -- a flat metal box with a bunch of DE-25 connectors
sticking out -- and said, "What is that, some kind of synthesizer?"

Since the company I worked for was downright paranoid about trade
secrets, it briefly occurred to me to respond, "If I told you I'd
have to kill you."  But that would have, at the very least, made me 
late for my flight to San Francisco, a place I'd much rather be than 
Atlanta, so I just said, "Yeah."  Pleased to have played a small part
in the glamorous world of rock and roll, he beamed and waved me 
through without even x-raying it, much less demanding that I open it, 
plug it in and turn it on, or otherwise demonstrate that it was full 
of computer chips rather than plastique.

In some airports they scrutinize my belt buckle and hold conferences
about my 2-inch jackknife.  In others, I could probably get an Uzi and
a Rottweiler aboard without drawing a second glance.  It seems to
depend on how busy they are, whether FAA inspectors are reputed to be
operating undercover in the area, what's going on in the world, who
had a fight with his or her SO that morning, and, for all I know, the
phase of the moon.  

Of course, considering the number of people who go through Hartsfield,
they may have done a quantitative risk analysis and decided that 
trampling by backed-up crowds at the checkpoint was a greater threat 
than terrorism.

Joe "Is that Detagel in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" Chew
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
From: fpaterra@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Frank Paterra - CTA)
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:46:45 GMT

In article <13363@bnr-rsc.UUCP> deand@bmerh404.BNR.CA (Dean Dillabough) writes:
>In article <EBU.92Nov8210348@lk-hp-12.hut.fi>, ebu@snakemail.hut.fi
>(Erik Bunn) writes:
>|>In article <1992Nov8.103101.166@gems.vcu.edu> hleaves@gems.vcu.edu writes:
>|>
>|>>I was reading an article in an "anarchist" magazine (I can't remember which
>|>>one) that was talking about ATM (teller machine) "jackpotting".
>"Jackpotting"
>|>...
>|>
>|>Don't know about this one, but the ATM coup someone allegedly made in
>|>Italy was pretty good =). Pick an ATM that's sunk into the wall
>|>...
>
> Then there's the brute force solution to ATM rip-offs as reported once around
> here. 
> 1) Steal a front end loader.
> 2) Dig the ATM out of the wall.
> 3) Load said ATM onto a stolen truck.
> 4) Run away.
> 5) Have at the ATM with the cutting torch (or similar) at your leisure.
>
> Its true. I saw it in the paper here around a year ago. 
>
>
>                        Dean Dillabough (No shoes, no shirt, no sig)
>
>                     


Step 4 is very important.

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From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:38:50 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Followup-To: sci.skeptic
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)

In article <8524.10055@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM>, lpb@florida (Len Bucuvalas) writes:
>I beileive it was yet according to the research I have read it is
>quite nearly impossible to make a vaccine for a retrovirus.

There's no real reason why it's impossible.  HIV is a particularly
nasty kind in that it mutates at an extraordinary rate, and hides in
just about any cell in your body (except for nerve cells).

>							      The
>vaccine muct be made from an inactive virus and a retrovirus of the
>type HIV seats itself in the spinal nervous system and begins to
>replicate *active* clones of itself programemd to smother the T4
>cell...at least that is what I have read.

Not what I've read.  I go for Hoffman's idiotype network theories
myself, whereby the fact that HIV's gp120 coat is a close molecular
mimic of CD4 induces the immune system to attack CD4 itself and so
self-destruct.  If this is true, making a vaccine from the gp120
coat would be a fatal mistake--early trials with that kind of vaccine
have been poor, so this particular macabre medical tragedy will not
be tested.

Seriously, nobody knows how HIV leads to AIDS.  The simple idea that
HIV infects T-cells and kills them, while true, doesn't explain the
known facts about the disease very well.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Courgettes (was Re: doggy style)
	<1992Nov5.054351.2022@tamsun.tamu.edu> <srn.721117917@minnie>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 10:20:20 -0400

In <srn.721117917@minnie>, Stephen Robert Norris writes:
>
>	This is apparently true 


i smell a new motto of the week.
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:59:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Conspiracy Theory, brought to you today.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban

In alt.folklore.urban, linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Trelford Pinkerton) writes:

> I heard, sheesh, that Bill Clinton has a secret plan that he will
> put into effect in his first few weeks of office.   The secret plan
> will eliminate PACs, Special Interest groups, Lobbyists, and pork barrel
> projects.
> 
> The details of the plan are too secret to tell you, but
> speed is of the essence.   Watch the skies.   You heard it
> here first.  Eat some toffee.

Hey, you gotta get some use out of all those confiscated automatic weapons
before you turn them back into ingots ...


Ray "I can't believe I said that" Depew
rrd@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com
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From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: 1950's Darryle, damnit.
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:34:42 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Nov11.063041.25767@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
> dem@engin.umich.edu (Darryle E Merlette) writes:
> : 
> : The London Times, May 11, 1987 ("Smallpox vaccine triggered Aids virus in
> : Africa and Haiti") tells how the World Health Organization injected
> : 100 million Africans (plus 14,000 Haitians working in Zaire) with AIDS
> : infested smallpox vaccines. When the Haitians returned to Haiti, it spread 
> : there. That's why when AIDS was first publicized, being Haitian mysteriously
> : made you "high risk". 
> 
> Heh, heh! 100 million people. Yup - good factual reporting. I doubt if they
> could find 100 million people to vaccinate - much less accomplish the task.
> Is there any independent documentation besides that reputed article?
> 
> Bill

As there are over 100 million people in Nigeria alone, maybe you should get
your facts right.  And yes there are widespread vaccination programs going on
all over the continent.  All it takes is the distribution of vaccines and
needles to the community nurse/doctor/health worker.

As to the rest of the argument, I'm just observing the diatribe....

McBean
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: sgs@grebyn.com (Stephen G. Smith)
Subject: Re: Legal Tender
Organization: Agincourt Computing
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:05:23 GMT

In article <mcirvin.721168955@husc8> mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin) writes:

>And what was meant by the possibly legendary statement I once heard
>that "U.S. coins are not legal tender"?  Is it somehow more legitimate
>to refuse pennies than to refuse $100 bills?

>Matt McIrvin

Paying for a large purchase with small coins is legally regarded simply
as a nuisance.  I think $1.00 is the largest bill that pennies *must* be
accepted for.

The way I heard it, the test case involved a guy who had bought a new
car that turned out to be a lemon.  He tried to pay off the rest of the
money that he owed (somethng like $1000.  This was in the 1950's.) with a
barrel of pennies.

To make things even more interesting, he filled the rest of the space in
the barrel with a mixture of molasses and sawdust ....

The court ruled that the dealer wasn't required to take the resulting
mess.

-- 
Steve Smith                     Agincourt Computing
sgs@grebyn.com                  (301) 681 7395
"Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense."
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ambidge@ecf.toronto.edu (Chris Ambidge)
Subject: Re: An astonishing Guy.
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:58:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.235124.16224@radian.uucp> kathrynw%radian@natinst.com (Kathryn Whitworth) writes:
>
>A penny for the old Guy?
>
>I've *assumed* this relates to Guy Fawkes.  It's still (to these
>American eyes) a rather odd connection if true.
>
>If not, from whence did it come?
>
>

When I was younger, and into pyrotechnics, and growing up in England, (50s)
the Done Thing in  the  late days of October / early November was to make
a straw man (or, more likely, old clothes of your dad's, stuffed with
newspapers), and wheel him  around the streets of town, begging  "Penny 
for the Guy, sir [or Mrs, as the case might  be].  The money thus raised
was used to  buy fireworks, which were set off as part of the festivities
on the night of November  5.

"Guy" was consigned to the bonfire and burned as part of the same celebrations

In the words of Anna Russell,  "I'm not making this up, you know"

Chris
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   200 college st / toronto ON / M5S 1A4 // 416 978 3106
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From: tom@spud.kludge.com (Tom Lemos)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:23:44 GMT
Organization: T.T.L.F.  San Francisco, CA

michaet@hubcap.clemson.edu (michael dale townsend) writes:

> 
> Well, around here they just chain the free standing machines to a pick
> up truck and drag it off.  I guess they borrow a friends blowtorch later
> to cut through the safe at their liesure.  	
> Yes, I did read it in a newspaper somewhere.

This method was tried in Oakland, California.. seems they just decided to
tow the ATM... the cops were hip to the entire scene..they watched and laughed
from a safe distance until they laughed so loud that the folks who were
taking the ATM noticed.. and started to run. Plus, the topper was that
the truck they used to drag the ATM away ran out of gas when they started
to pull away from the ATM.. the ATM never moved an inch, because it was
bolted to the ground in SEVERAL places.

Tom@spud.kludge.COM                             Tater Tot Liberation Front
"People should be taught what is, not what should be."    San Francisco,CA
                                         -Lenny Bruce      +1.415.255.8340
From: egilmour@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Microwave Death
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:36:04 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I'm really not sure if this story is true urban folklore
as  I am certain I read it in the newspaper.  

The story was about an 
employee in a submarine sandwich shop who rigged a microwave so that 
it would continue to work even when he
opened the door etc...supposedly as it would take less time to heat up the subs 
if he didn't have to continue to set the timer and so on.
As he continued to use the microwave in this manner, after
about three hours he died suddenly.  Apparently he had cooked his intestines.

I guarantee that I read this in the paper.
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: 3 sided coin
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:41:42 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

I spotted this in sci.math


From: mckay@alcor.concordia.ca (John McKay)
Subject: Re: Three-sided coin
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:20:27 GMT
 von Neumann was asked, when about to enter a taxi,
"How thick should a coin be to have equal (=1/3) probability
 of landing on its head,tail,or edge?"
He turned, told the taxi where to go, then answered and was 
away.
Surprisingly, making "reasonable" assumptions, this can be
done in your head.
The only person from whom I have had an immediate correct
answer was the late John Leech.
To standardize on answers, let us assume the answer to be
Thickness/Diameter.



        Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty

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  D.Budd@mcc.ac.uk                                          fax 6040
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From: lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Keywords: cia,mj12,bush,morgetheau,rothschild
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:11:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.004854.27189@mdd.comm.mot.com> rudoff@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff) writes:
>In article <rKB=qf-@engin.umich.edu> dem@engin.umich.edu (Darryle E Merlette) writes:
>>Among other things, it is
>>not possible for viruses to cross species, so that story about AIDS
>>originating from the African green monkey is even more impossible.
>
>Really? Viruses can't cross species?
>
>How are chimpanzees infected with HIV for medical studies?
>
>How do humans, cats, dogs, cats, racoons, etc. get rabies?
>
>How can influenza vaccines be made from infecting fertile chicken eggs?
>
>The original vaccine against smallpox was made from cow pox virus.
>Wasn't that a shared disease between humans and cattle?

I beileive it was yet according to the research I have read it
is quite nearly impossible to make a vaccine for a retrovirus.
The vaccine muct be made from an inactive virus and a
retrovirus of the type HIV seats itself in the spinal nervous
system and begins to replicate *active* clone sof itself
programemd to smother the T4 cell...at least that is what I
have read.
>-- 
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Doug Rudoff          Motorola, Seattle    INTERNET:rudoff@mdd.comm.mot.com
>                                            USENET:uunet!mdisea!rudoff   
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Len
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		-- Ralph Nader @ Harvard Law School, 1/15/92
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Ex-presidents
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:33:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:

  +: I don't think we can say for sure that Agnew had a middle name.
  
billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

  +I thought it was Spiro Terry Agnew. James T. Kirk was named after him.
  +
  +Bill "Not a Terry and, after the above comment, no chance of becoming one
  +either" Nelson

Okay, that's it.  Terry, get the gun.

Terry "Or the chicken mole'" Chan
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <BxM7Dy.7L6@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:10:39 GMT

From: kabreuer@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Klaus Breuer)

>I heard a MUCH simplier and elegant solution. Find two ATMs set into a wall
>next to each other. Take a forklift (at NIGHT), ram it under the ATMs and lift
>them out. Place on a truck and _scram_...
>
>Ciao,
>Klaus
>---
>Klaus Breuer, Rudelsweiher Str. 6b, 8520 Erlangen, Germany
>** "Geez, I need a _reason_ for everything?" --Calvin
>** "Should I or shouldn't I? -- Too late, I did!" --Hobbes


Sounds like the New York Method (tm).  I didn't know that
had spread to Germany.

Jon "DST has come to Germany.  Please turn your watches back 50 years" Papai
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: What is IT? (Was: Re: Oct. 28: The Rapture...)
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:32:49 GMT

rhamilt@husc10.harvard.edu (Rowan Hamilton) writes:

>Terry.Smith@f870.n800.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Smith) writes:

>>other head-space if I found myself heading off to hard Ionised Vacuum 
>>                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Can anyone explain to me how to ionize a vacuum?

I don't know about ionizing it, but I damn well know how to polarize it.
Maybe if you put an event horizon nearby... Mr. Hawking?  Paging
Mr. Hawking.

Matt "will never live down that gaffe about moose diagrams" McIrvin
-- 
Matt McIrvin
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa)
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper...
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:31:10 GMT

>A friend of a friend (I know, bad way to start) tells me that it is actually
>cheaper to make a compact disc than a cassette.  He claims that they just
>charge more for CDs since they can get away with it.  Is this true?

Well, the last time I bothered to check, CDs cost about $1.50 apiece to
manufacture in batches of 1000. More, and the price goes down. Add in printing
costs, and each CD costs about $2.00 to manufacture.

How much are new CDs these days? 
Sounds like they're getting away with it to me... 

d"oh, yeah, research costs"b

_____________________________________________________________________________
Dan Bidwa                             I believe nothing and in nothing.
dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu       !disclaim!   I believe everything and in everything.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mind the Gap)
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:40:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.081226.17495@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> crosby@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (CROSBY MATTHEW JAMES) writes:
>ObUL:  Spelling hellow hello is really a secret plan to innudate the net with
>spelling flames, causing it's demise.
                          ^^^^

Ted "Me, I'm confused whether this was just a meta-flaym" Frank
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From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:26:03 GMT
Subject: Re: furrfu??
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban

In alt.folklore.urban, jordan@castor (USENET's Chuck) writes:

> Now here's my question:  what does BTW stand for?

Now, you and I both know that Chuck is as serious about this as Bush 
talking about the environment, but ...  lifted from comp.sys.palmtops, 
allow me to offer, for your reading pleasure:

----------------------- cut here ----------------------------------------

In comp.sys.palmtops, phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Liddicott) writes:

> Though I may wich I never asked, who is BTW

I for one am glad you asked.

BTW is a net lurker, primarily responsible for cleaning up the loose
ends people tend to toss as afterthoughts into a posting.  

For example,
if you see a string about modem inadequacies, and the poster writes "... (BTW,
the Telebit QBlazer can now be ordered direct for $299 plus shipping) ..."
you might think to yourself that, although this is not directly relevant to
the discussion at hand, it is a valuable tidbit that someone should file away
for future reference.  That's BTW's job.

As another example, in a posting on a politically sensitive topic, someone 
might claim:  " ... Bush supporters argue (and I'm not a Bush supporter, 
BTW) ... " so that BTW can clarify the point for any idiot who makes the 
logical leap from "Bush supporters argue ... " to "my argument is ... " and
attempts to flame the original poster.

BTW is chiefly responsible for keeping wrong inferences to a minimum and 
keepiing track of gratuitous, ancillary information.  (Related net jobs
are IOW, IMO and IMHO, but you may already know about them.)

By the way, the current holder of the BTW chair is an Englishman named
John Bytheway.  And the acronym is pronounced "b'twee," not "butt-who."


Regards
Ray Depew
rrd@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com
Disclaimer:  I said what?
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: FAQ Off!  (Was Re: furrfu??)
Date: 10 Nov 1992 06:31:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

manley@optilink.UUCP (Dave Manley) writes:
  
  +Dave "The originator of furrfu! Who's Terry and how do I get in the FAQ?" 
	Manley

Let's take this in order:

Who's Terry?  All on a.f.u. are Terry and yet none are.

You were the guy that chose to honor Joel Furr?  What's your 
relationship with him?  Huh?!  'fess up!

How do you get in the FAQ?  Read the FAQ.  BTW, your first Q. set back
your chances.


Terry "Om" Chan
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Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
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From: briang@bari.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Gordon)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Airport security
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:40:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bari

In article <1992Nov05.042346.29261@microsoft.com> mhotchin@microsoft.com (Michael Hotchin) writes:
>>
>>A Canadian MP was reported in the newspaper to have been denied access
>>to his flight for such poor humour.
>>                         	[...]
>Even better than this - it has happened *twice*, both times to the then
>Minister of Transportation.  Where do these people come from?
>	[...]

I believe the Minister of Transportation is elected.  Obviously being a "fast
learned" is not a requirement ;-}

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