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From: dbh@doc.ic.ac.uk (Denis Howe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Human Resource Organization in Singapore aka EDB
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:03:09
Organization: Computing Department, Imperial College, London, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk
In-reply-to: arthurc@solomon.technet.sg's message of Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:04:00

Just a few hours ago I saw a poster advertising an Singapore EDB
recruitment fair in London, probably March 1993.  The last date for
applying was December 1992 but they might still accept applications.
The address is:

Singapore Economic Development Board
Norfolk House
30 Charles II St.
London SW1Y 4AE		Tel. +44 (71) 839 6688

I'm seriously thinking of going along.  I'm interested in the
possibility of a computing research job in Singapore in 94/95.
--
Denis Howe <dbh@doc.ic.ac.uk>
I have an answering machine in my car.     It says,  "I'm
home now but leave a message and I'll call when I'm out."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: vylim00@nx07.mik.uky.edu (vui yap lim)
Subject: test
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:04:41 GMT

this is only a test..... Please ignore, everyone!!!!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: rswi@mtu.edu (shammoo)
Subject: Help In Need
Keywords: Help
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:35:57 GMT

Dear Fellow Subsribers...

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!1...I hope it is not too late to wish everyone out there!

Anway I am new here but I would really appreciate if someone could help me
by giving me any information to go about sending e-mails to various universities
in the United States to request for Graduate Studies catolog and application
forms.

I would really appreciate if anyone out there who have the regarding information
and mail it to me at RSWI@mtu.edu.

Thank you and have a nice day.

raymond


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From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: World Model United Nations Conference in Prague
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:21:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan12.022103.19213
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

To all those interested in international relations, politics, and the
United Nations -- WorldMUN is a great forum for the discussion of 
current issues being debated by the United Nations today: 

Harvard World Model United Nations (WorldMUN) is an international
conference that brings together university students and young
professionals from around the globe to siimulate the workings of the
United Nations.  The second annual WorldMUN conference will be held from
March 28, 1993, through March 31, 1993, at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
Czechoslovakia.  

Ten committees, representing the General Assembly, Economic and Social
Council, and Specialized Agencies of the United Nations, will discuss
issues from the actual UN agenda.  In addition to the formal debate of
resolutions, committee sessions will be augmented by presentations from
politicians, businessmen, scholars, and activists who have helped shape
the dramatic world events of recent years.

In this era of momentous political change, WorldMUN seeks to assess the
role of the United Nations in a new world order.  WorldMUN marks the first
truly international simulated United Nations where participants play the
roles of their own nation's ambassadors.  WorldMUN strives to teach
tomorrow's leaders about the United Nations and its methods of conflict
resolution.  It aims to foster skills in negotiation and debate, in order
that delegates may formulate resolutions on topics currently discussed in
the real United Nations.  These resolutions will be sent to the actual
United Nations committees.

WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
Czechoslovakia.  The Hotel Diplomat is Prague's most modern conference
center.  Prague is both one of the most beautiful metropoles of Europe and
an ideal location for debating current world politics and the changing
role of the United Nations.

The Hotel diplomat is a luxury resort that offers restaurants, shops, a
night club, and fitness and spa equipment.  Delegates will stay at the
Hotel Diplomat for the reduced rate of 130DM/day double occupancy, which
includes two meals a day.

Delegate registration is $US60 per delegate.  For more information, please
reply to this e-mail address or write/fax:
Joshua A. Salomon, Secretary-General
Harvard World Model United Nations 1993
Suite 23, 1430 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138-3810
UNITED STATES

Telephone:  001-617-493-6995
Fax:  001-617-493-6995

James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: muntuck@bombay.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (MunTuck Yap)
Subject: Re: soc.culture.singapore is up!
Reply-To: muntuck.yap@columbiaSC.NCR.COM
In-reply-to: seow@kraft.ecn.purdue.edu's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:56:48 GMT
Organization: CCSD - Somewhere in AT&T
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:07:09

In article <1993Jan12.165648.20179@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> seow@kraft.ecn.purdue.edu (Aik Siong Seow) writes:

>
>  Hey everyone!
>	   Soc.culture.singapore is up. Join in the fray!


   With due respects to Singaporeans, are there anything exciting or even
   remotely interesting happening in Singapore? What do Singaporeans do
   for fun?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: othman@ntrc25.ntrc.ntu.ac.sg (othman (EEE/Div 4))
Subject: Re: Some backgnd on the Asian Rare Earth factory
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:58:12 GMT

Black_Swan@MTS.RPI.EDU wrote:
: moved to Papan, a chinese settlement, by the time
: production started.  The waste product was deposited in
: a rapidly cracking cement-lined trench not far from a
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
It did have cement-lined trench.

: river tributary.  When this was discovered, 16
: organizations joined to form the Papan Support Group and
: Perak Anti-Radioactive Committe (PARC), which together
: sponsored radioactive measurements, a nationwide
: petition, and eventually public demonstrations against
: unsafe dump site.  In response the dump site was moved
: to a new location near Bukit Merah, another chinese
: village.

I wonder if there will be less pollution if it were put in a Malay area.
From my experiece there will certainly be even more pollution because the
pressure groups are mostly chinese oriented. They don't give a damn about
other races.

The example was the pollution caused by the Mamut mines, near Mount Kinabalu,
a highly valuable tourist potential. There was not even any trench. The amount
of pollution is so much that the remaining one is as large as a small hill.
The rest of the pollution had been swept the the river killing a lot of fishes,
(maybe humans as well), and make the sourrounding miles of land barren for 
hundreds of years.

Surprisingly the report was by a Japanese and the mine was operated by a
Japanese firm.

Although the State government got about 100 million from the mines, I do not
think it worth the destruction of prime land.

:  
:  
: Ref: Malaysian Politics
:      GordonP. Means (MacMaster University, Canada)
:      Oxford University Press
:      1991.
:  
:      Strongly recommended. A very good book on the trends and
:      dynamics of contemporary Malaysian Politics in the 1970s
:      and 1980s. Lots of interesting references.
:  
:  
: PS: Hey you guys in McMaster, perhaps you can get
: Prof. Means to read this group and participate?
: It would be refreshing to have an authority on
: board.
I encourage him to do so so that he can get a lot of inside information from
those who have no privilege to publish. Those official documents can be utterly
misleading. You must also interview ALL Malaysians of all races and states in
order to get a balanced view.

Imagine these authorities making a fundamental mistake as not knowing 
What MALAYSIA is!

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: hgthio@megatest.com (H.G. Thio)
Subject: Re: Recommend S'pore/M'sia restaurants
Organization: Megatest Corporation
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:28:32 GMT

From article <1993Jan6.005605.21244@netcom.com>, by suleman@netcom.com (Dani Suleman):
> In article <1992Dec29.214453.11455@pbhyb.PacBell.COM> armally@PacBell.COM (arvind mally) writes:
>>
>>There is a new restaurant in San Francisco serving S'pore/M'asian food
>>called "Straits Cafe".  I have not been to that restaurant, I have read
>>some reviews that they serve the food in the traditional manner on a
>>bannana leaf (I don't know if that is traditional....atleast not in
>>Brunei).  Well it is in India ofcourse.
>>
>>
> 
> I just ate there a week ago, the food there is OK but definitely not
> served in banana leaf ! :) I still like the Singapore-Malaysia restaurant
> between 8th & 9th street, there are more selections there compared to
> the Straits Cafe. But above all, I still like Indonesian food :)
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

						I crave for Indonesian cakes,
						sweets, & such junk food.
						I don't exactly have names of
						my favorites but I know
						I'll recognize them by sight.
						If anybody knows of any
						restaurant, deli, or bakery in 
						the Bay Area for such junk
						food, please let me know.

						.thio.

> 
> --dani
From: chong@gideon.Eng.Sun.COM (Tai Chong [TI])
Newsgroups: sun.chinatown,soc.culture.asean
Subject: Silk Air
Date: 6 Jan 1993 18:08:23 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gideon

The response was overwhelming. Thanks to those of you who took time 
to write.

And for those of you who don't know about Silk Air, this is FYI:

	SILK Air, formerly known as Tradewinds, is a subsidiary of Singapore 
	Airlines (SIA), and it concentrates on regional flights to Malaysia,
	Thailand, etc.

Thanks,
-Tai



Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: yloke@.ee.ualberta.ca (Yan Loke)
Subject: Re : RFD : soc.culture.malaysia
Originator: yloke@edson.ee.ualberta.ca
Organization: Dept. of E.E., U of Alberta, Edmonton,Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:51:53 GMT


Christopher Barrera of mtu.edu wrote

I would like to call together a discussion for the creation of
a new newgroup, tentatively called "soc.culture.malaysia"

The proposed group is unmoderated. That is, all who wish to join
may freely do so.

Proposed CHARTER for the proposed group "soc.culture.malaysia" -

   The proposed group, soc.culture.malaysia, is intended for
   the discussion of all topics pertaining to Malaysia, including
   but not limited to: culture, national politics, foreign diplomacy,
   economy, peoples, and land.

(rest deleted).......



I think it is about time that newsgroup is created.  You got my vote.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: arthurc@solomon.technet.sg (Arthur!! Chai)
Subject: Human Resource Organization in Singapore aka EDB
Organization: TECHNET, Singapore
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:04:00 GMT

As a matter of fact, the Economic Development Board of Singapore has a
division, the International Manpower Division, which is dedicated to the
task of attracting foreign talent into Singapore. We do in fact maintain
a database of resumes, which are used to help companies in Singapore find
the right people for their requirements.
If you are looking for a job in Singapore, please send your resume to
the EDB. The Singapore address is :

International Manpower Division
Economic Development Board of Singapore
250 North Bridge Road
#24-00 Raffles City Tower
Singapore 0617
SINGAPORE

Tel: 65-336-2288
Fax: 65-339-6077

The EDB also has offices in North America in Boston, New York, Chicago,
Los Angeles and San Francisco, all of whom have officers attached for
IMD work. If you live in these cities, you can probably find them in
the phone book. I will post the addresses tomorrow.

In fact, it's best if you contact the closest local office of the EDB.
We also have officers posted in London, Paris, Frankfurt and Milan.

Currently, the EDB is interested in attracting both ASEAN citizens
studying/working abroad, as well as people from almost everywhere else :-)
Every year, they hold Career Fairs in the UK, US and Australia. I will also
post the details when they become available.

I will also answer queries concerning the EDB and other aspects of
recruitment, in fact I already have one now ;^) Please feel free to 
mail me with questions. In the future, we plan to place information about
things like this and other info on Singapore on-line available via Gopher
for example.

Arthur Chai
Senior Services Officer
Economic Development Board

aka Arthur!!
From: chuahl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Chua HakLien)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: A previous challenge to Pak Othman...
Date: 11 Jan 1993 13:55:30 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu


othman@ntrc25.ntrc.ntu.ac.sg wrote:
> Chua HakLien (chuahl@ocf.berkeley.edu) wrote:
> : In article <1993Jan9.023533.27039@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> othman@ntrc25.ntrc.ntu.ac.sg (othman (EEE/Div 4)) writes:
> : >Are you the guy who emailed me? I do not respond to email anymore but I will
> : >respond to this.

Yes, I AM the "guy" who emailed you.
> : I think it would be wiser if you responded by email when people do email you,
> : to save bandwidth ( and lots of frustration... ) on the group.

> So that the email can be full of even worse unintelligible insults. At least
> if they are posted the original poster can show his true self.

I emailed you a polite 3-line question asking you to tell me who it might be.
I am sure I didn't make it too hard to understand, nor was it accusing in any 
way. 
When you DIDN'T reply and continued posting to the net, I posted the 
question to you ONTO the net. 3 other people asked you to verify your sources
as well. But you dissapeared shortly after that, and we never did receive
your benign "enlightment".

[ Rest of Othman's WAFFLING deleted. Note to all posters: You can start
using rumors in your posts, since facts seem to be useless. I also applaud
Othman for managing to turn this whole issue into another accusation 
against Malaysian Chinese yet again. I bow to you in admiration of your
great skill. ]

> --
> Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,

Chua
+==+
	Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans.
							- John Lennon


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: chan@convex.com (Alex Kwok-Hung Chan)
Subject: NFC/AFC Conference Championship Games
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:39:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Hi there,

Does anyone know if Singapore TV or radio will broadcast these events
live in Singapore? I will be in Singapore next week for 3 weeks and hate
to miss it.

Thanks...

Go Cowboys.... go


- alex
From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Star Trek in SEA
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:31:22 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <C0pFEs.JEo@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>, tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani) writes:
> Right now, Babylon 5 is only a 2 hour movie. No word whether a series
> will be made. If so, it would probably start in Fall '93.

	When will it be shown (or did I already premiered?)  I deleted the
announcement that I received.... *sigh*

-Tai
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Developed? Must have unemployment benefits!
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:03:58 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1993Jan7.174131.13581@bmers95.bnr.ca>, khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor) writes:
 
> No it is not trivia.  You hit the nail right on the head.   People
> receiving unemployment benefits are reluctant to go back into the
> workforce unless the pay is more attractive than the unemployment
> benefits.  Why not get fed for not working. Also attractiveness is not
> merely a measure of direct $$ received, but other things like taxes,
> other social benefits that get tagged along, and time to pursue your
> own interest or moonlight.
> 

	I think you are confused unemployment with welfare.  You will receive
unemployment benefit within a certain amount of time (36 wks, I think).  After
that, you are on your own.   If your unemployment benefits run out, then you may
go on welfare which I believe has not time limit.
	I do not understand why some people oppose to unemployment benefits. The
benefits not only is beneficial to the recipent who just got lay off and needs
something to hang on to while searching for another job, it also is beneficial
to the economy as a whole.  If we do not have unemployment benefit, the 82 and
90 recession would be a depression.
	If an umployment person is without any income, then he/she may not
afford to go to the restaurants that he/she used to hang out.  The business of
the restaurant will suffer and the owner may force to lay off some people.  As
a result, the workers at the restaurant cannot afford to buy clothes, and the
clothing stores will be laying off people and so on.  The benefits acts as a
stabilizer to the economy.
	 Welfare is a different story, and that is why Clinton is making plan
to reform it. 

> If it comes from one own's CPF, it is 'finite' and can deplete real
> fast. An incentive to go back into the work force.
>  
> Unemployment 'feedings' has lead countries to have a artificially
> higher labour cost than it should and make it less competitive.  (I

	You may have a point in here.  I don't see the point of Malaysia
government giving out unemployment benefit while the labor wages is so low.



Jack Teh


> know it is not the only reason but it is one of them).  I'm sure that
> the forces in Singapore are aware of this and therefore had not
> blindly followed the "developed nations" example.
>  
> ...Kyle 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: an3855@anon.penet.fi (youhwa)
Subject: Re: NO MORE ILLEGAL WORKERS, PLEASE !!!
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.asean
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 05:29:03 GMT

Hi everybody !  This is sound from Japan.  
First of all I want to emphasize that I am a Malaysian and I am 
a Chinese.

>       PLEASE WAKE UP ALL MALAYSIANS !!! TELL OUR GOVERNMENT WE DO NOT WANT
> THOSE ILLEGAL WORKERS ANY MORE. FOR YOUR OWN ADVANTAGES, OUR SOCIETY, AND OUR
> LAND, PLEASE KICK THEM OUT.
>
>

Before I come to Japan, I finish my university education on Taiwan. 
Those words make me remark the illegal workers in Taiwan and Japan. 
Most of them are Chinese(what a sick thing to mention:-( ), though a
little of them commit crimes on local country, it effect to all the
innocent legal or illegal workers. So what I want to said is let the
innocent workers leave on land. 

Any correction is welcome. 

NG YOU HWA
youhwa@konet.kz.tsukuba.ac.jp
TEL:0298-56-8367                    

                                              

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Constitutional news from malaysia?
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:27:39 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.


Can any kind soul post some news about what's happening with the 
UMNO's constitutional proposals regarding the Sultans ?
Any article from newspaper or what you heard would be nice. All I know
is that Sultan of Johore abused a hockey/football (?) coach, people were
angry and there were some proposals by UMNO to limit the Sultan's power
or lift their immunity.

Yes, yes I know I am rather ignorant of what's happening back in Malaysia
so any further info would be appreciated

thanks
waseem
-- 
Waseem A. Siddiqi                                 Tel:   (416) 922 1937 
SCO Canada                                        email: waseems@sco.com 
Toronto, Canada                                          utcsri!scocan!waseems
From: chuahl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Chua HakLien)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Profile: Othman Bin Ahmad
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:53:53 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

The argument is more important than the arguer. I'm not sure if I
would like stuff about me getting relayed around on the net, and
I don't see how knowing this info about him helps anyone. It's a
violation of his privacy, and even if you hate his guts, you don't
have to stoop to that kind of level. So let's just keep it to flaming
each other, and not pulling out torrid details ,
ok? Who knows where it'll stop once that starts...

Chua
+==+
PS: dear Ms Candy Lee, you'll probably have something to say about this.
My advice to you is that if you're unable to take a flame, you should
not try to reply. I won't try to lock you out of sending me email. If it
gives you a power-trip kick and you enjoy doing so, it's perfectly fine 
by me.
[ Sorry for the bandwidth. ]

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: chin@ee.ualberta.ca (Jing Chin)
Subject: Renew Malaysian Passport in Vancouver
Summary: need help to renew Malaysian Passport
Keywords: passport, Malaysia
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:19:31 GMT

I would greatly appreciate that if somebody can help me to renew my Malaysian
passport in Canada. My passport is going to expire on October 1993 (it has been
renewed once before). I heard that one can renew his passport in Vancouver.

Once agian, thank you.

Regards, 
Jing
e-mail:chin@bode.ee.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: engp2063@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG CHEE MUN SIDNEY)
Subject: Re: Profile: Othman Bin Ahmad
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:39:39 GMT

Hey man! Let's cool it, O.K. Before Mr Othman himself voice any opinions
on my actions, it seems that somebody else had already mind the business
for him.

Actually, I don't understand what the fuss is all about. I am just
merely restating his academic qualifications, that's all. There is
nothing to be private about this. In fact, he should be proud of
himself having such good qualifications. I don't understand why you
guys out there cry foul over this. I mean if NTU publishes this in a
directory meant for other universities/companies, surely many people
all over the world would have known of Mr Othman's qualifications ,
right? So what is so private about that?

And for those who slime me for stooping so low, my reply is this: I did
no wrong whatsoever in parading Mr Othman's resume in public. I did not
say who his wife is, what he did in private or anything that private.
Surely not those things that the British tabloids did to their own
royals. So what's the problem here?

I intend no malice here and I say it again. I m just repeating the words
of what is published so that netters here get a clearer picture of who
Mr Othman really is. To those of you who are 'afraid' of letting
your credentials known, just don't get involved in the net, that's
simple. And K.I.S.S. too.