From: agscrib@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur Scribner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Greek Philosophy is a Joke
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:10:26 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1993Jan26.050631.27195@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE) writes:
>
>agscrib@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur Scribner) writes:
>: Why are the Greeks given credit for the development of Philosophy as a 
>: science. They had no contribution science of Philosophy, because the tenets
>: of Philosophy were laid down thousands of years before the Greeks were even
>: cognizant of themselves. The formalization of Philosophical thought and
>: ideology was developed by the Ancient Egyptians from whom the Greeks merely
>: plagarized. These early African people educated the Greeks, who were at that
>: time known as the Pyrhennians, and gave them there culture. I just don't
>: appreciate the way the history books have been rigged to perpetuate this 
>: myth of Greek Philosophy.
>
>	Well you use a Greek word to characterise the science, a Greek
>word to name these pre-Greek philosophers and so on. The little you know about
>philosophy also is showing. We would also like some articles from people in the
>know and some ancient works were you draw your conclusion. 
 First of all the reason that those names are Greek is because the Greeks 
stole them and placed their name on it. It's common sense. And because this is
part of the European whitewash of history what do you expect. There are 
countless examples of this. As for books and articles etc.. I suggest you
read my other post in which I spend a little time quoting sources and
explaining in more detail, the premise which I initially stated. If you need
more sources etc. just ask, I will be more than happy to post them.
>Just for the sake of argument.
>	Greeks seem to be the father of
>		History	(Herodotes)
>		Biology, (Archimedes)
>		Physics,
>		Engineering, (Archimedes)
>		Medicine,(Hipocrates)
>		Mathematics, (Pythagoras)
>		Poetry (Homer, male Sapfo female),
>		Geometry (Euclid),
>		Athletisism (Olympics)
>		Philosophy (Numerous)
>		Astronomy (Don't confuse Astrology)
>and many others I can't recall.

Well where do I begin. To begin with, lets take Herodotus. If you ever read
his work "The Histories" you would not be here debating me now. He admits to
studying in Egypt and has no problem explaining how the "Black Egyptians"
taught and educated the Greeks in Philosophy, Mathematics, and the Sciences.
He even speaks of Ionia as being an colony set up by the Egyptians to help
educate the early tribes of Pyrrhus (Ancient Greece). So read what your
"Father of History" has to say about the subject before going off half cocked.
BTW, he was named the "Father" of history by the Europeans, just as they
named themselves Father of everything as you have reitierated.
Hippocrates' oath is to an Egyptian Pharoah (Ahkenaten) and the symbol for
medicine, the serpent on the staff, is one of Egyptian origin. Look it up!
Also if you ever get the chance to read Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, you will
find that the Greek Gods Zeus and Apollo would travel once a year to a great
feast in the land of their birth in Ethiopia!! Hard to believe. Look it up!
You see I could go on and on explaining my point(s). You, like most of the
"cilivilized" world have been indoctrinated into the belief that the 
Europeans are the founders, discoverers, fathers etc.. of every thing dealing
with civilization. I'm here to expose the myth. You should take the time to
read "Anacalypsis" by Sir Godfrey Higgins. You would be surprised at some of
the facts that he exposes.
>
>	Greek Philosophers were (and are) quoted and used by the western
>civilisation even upto today. Many arguments are still used. Beeing the 
>father of a science does not necisaryly mean that they were the first eg.
>the work of Pythagoras was also used before. But it is from him that our
>civilisation got the theorem so he is the father. Things like the algorythm
>to find numbers like 3,5,7,11 (ie divisable by themselves and one, can't 
>remeber the term) are still used today in the computer algorithms,
>possibly the first algorithm ever (My guess, that fact)
>
>
>
>: 
>: Arthur
>: 
>
>		Regards
>			George

Of course the so-called Greek Philosophers are going to be quoted. How else
can this myth be perpetuated. My other post deals a little more with the
life of Pythagoras. I suggest you read that and write me if you have any
questions or rebuttal. You are speaking of Prime numbers, a concept that was
known to the Egyptians. Your last statement about that being the first
algorithm really blew your credibility. An algorithm is just  a set of rules
for solving a problem in a finite number of steps. It's no big deal just a
formal name for a set of rules. Anyway, it looks like YOU are the one who
doesn't seem to know what you are talking about.  Please feel free to respond.
But just to warn you, I know what I'm talking about. I've spent years
researching these things. In case you're wondering, I am a computer engineer
with the Dept. of Defense. History, Ancient Civilzations etc.. is a hobby and
a commitment to set the record straight.

Peace
Arthur

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