HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: Public Library...Body Count !!!
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:03:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.130607.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>
c9111192@cc.newcastle.edu.au
(I rang the door bell of your mind but it's locked from the outside) writes:
>		Body Count.... Cop Killer..
>	What a shock..I heard (i'm an aussie) that this record
>	was in the process of being banned in America and seriously
>	doubted the possibility of ever obtaining a copy over here..

Well, some police groups (and a few right-wingers) are *trying* to ban the
album, but aside from a few local places, it's still for sale. You
technically can't "ban" something nationwide in this country, but sometimes
they do, or actually, turn the other way while just about every community
bans it.

Besides, more than anything else, cold hard dux runs this country. This album
is selling, especially w/all this publicity. Ain't jack happening to it
while that happens.

Our 1st amendment is a good thing; much as I hate the Klan or "Little Black
Sambo" or other BS like that, I don't want to see it banned, either.

-- 
Kenneth R. Crudup, Contractor, OSF DCE QA
OSF, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142	+1 617 621 7306
kenny@osf.osf.org			OSF has nothing to do with this post.
From: rachim_t1@verifone.com
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: MC Ren kissers
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:49:34 -1000
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI

List all the people etc MC REN is dissin in 'Kiss my Black Ass'.


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From: josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Joshua (Summer student))
Subject: Re: Commercializing
Keywords: Barkley, PE, Nike
Reply-To: josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Joshua (Summer student))
Organization: National Inst. of Health, NINDS, LMCN
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:25:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.151845.9438@brtph560.bnr.ca>, usscoop1@bnr.ca (Chuck McCusker P015) writes:
|> |> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (david j warner) writes:
|> |> >however, is straight Bomb Squad hip hop, complete with the Round Mound lip
|> |> >synching to the voice of Chuck D. (and you thought it ended with the St. Ides'
|> |> >stuff)
|> |> >
|> |> >"Fans they boo me, I spit and they sue me.
|> |> > I don't understand why they do this to me.
|> |> > ... donut dunkin', charm school flunkin'
|> |> > I know the deal; it pays to be mean.
|> |> > Excuse me, but don't I have the cutest smile you've even seen?"
|> 
|> rest deleted
|> 
|> I've seen the commercial and I've listened to a lot of PE, and it dont sound
|> like Chuck D to me. Did you read that they were doing the commercial or does
|> it just sound like Chuck D to you.  No flame intended but I was jus' wundrin'.
|> 
|> Chuck Ross - maybe my TV just sux?
|> 
|>  


I also thought it was Chuck D.  Haven't heard anything specific about him doing
it, but the voice sounded identical!

josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov
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From: dander@mksol.dseg.ti.com (david m anderson)
Subject: DJ Quik
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:30:09 GMT

Let me clarify myself, he is no way in the top three
in rhyming but his is in the top three in his producing
skills.  My bad!  I still say that he has some of the
hardest beats in tha biz!

Peace

DAVe
From: mcarlsso@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Mars)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Samples Galore
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:07:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul22.100310.6142@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> ccaajcw@ucl.ac.uk (Jevon White) writes:
>jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>
>>One thing I've been trying to find is a copy
>>of James Brown's "Funky Drummer" on wax, it's a classic.
>
>>==DJ Phyz

I remember buying the UK 12" of She's the one by JB on Polydor 3
years ago.  The Funky Drummer bonus beat (3 min) is on the flipside.
Also available on Ultimate Beats and Breaks Vol 13.

mc

.


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From: ckukkone@jarthur.claremont.edu (CK3)
Subject: Re: Jungle Bros?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:19:15 GMT


The JB's hooked up with the likes of Herbie Hancock, George Clinton, and a 
few others in the group Material.  Definitely a lighter sound for
the JBs..........but they are supposed to have an album later this
year.

CK3
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:15:10 -0400 
From: Chad Mboya-Joe Darby <cd1l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Punk *ss Willie From Geto Boys!

Yeah,

I read about him working on that song "Fuck Rodney King".  His stated
that no one made a big deal when the cops beat him down in an incident
that was similiar to Rodney King's.  Also about how meek King has acted
during the entire deal.

I totally disagree w/ Wille D's viewpoint.  Even though he's my homeboy
from Houston, I ain't wit the logic.  I personally feel that Willie D is
the least talented member of the Geto Boys w/ Scarface being the most. 
I bought Willie D's first album, "Controversy", just to support the
indie Rap-A-Lot records.  The album is very lame.

I don't think I'll get close to his second solo album that should be out
sometime soon.

Boy...what people will do to get attention...


/// Chad Darby		         /
//  Field Robotics Center       //
/   Carnegie Mellon University ///
From: Vasilii.V.Petrenko@dartmouth.edu (Vasilii V. Petrenko)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Commercializing
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:56:44 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I'm not suggesting anything, but if you've seen the NIKE ad w/ Charles
Barkley rapping, you might notice that his rapping voice is a lot like
PE's Chuck D's voice. NO, Charles is NOT associated w/ St. Ides, but I
just thought U might like 2 know.
Xref: sparky alt.rap:3844 alt.rave:1791
From: ross@refine.enet.dec.com (The Vinyl Record Collector)
Newsgroups: alt.rap,alt.rave
Subject: Re: Samples Galore
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:19:11 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <13072.2a6ea354@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes...
> 
>*
>What's a 45 T?  An automatic?
> 

When it comes to automatics, I prefer a nine myself. :)  45's are, you know, 7
inch records instead if twelve inches.  Those things that Pete Rock has a stack
full of in his arm on the inside of the new SOURCE magazine.  Wonderful for
sampling, especially if you have a decent length sampler, since the speed is 45
rpms....

>I have two versions of JB's "Think", one is kinda wack, the other is the one we
>all know and love.  THE SMARTEST PURCHASE I EVER MADE WAS A JB SOLID GOLD 30
>HITS LP.  And the rest is history...
> 
>==Phyz

Interesting.... is the good version of, 'Think,' actually a Lyn Collins record,
or is it like a James Brown featuring Lyn Collins type of thing?  When I bought
my moms the James Brown StarTime CD Set, it was cool just sitting back and
playing, "Name That Sample."  Two of my favorites are the one Gang Star jacked
for, 'Words I Manifest,' (Wasn't that, 'Hipster Avenue?') and the one Chubb
Rock used for the remix of, 'Caught Up.'  Can't remember the original's name
('Mother Popcorn?'), but I've got the 45 of it at home somewhere.....

                                                 T-Dub
                                                 SHYGUY Productions....
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From: c9111192@cc.newcastle.edu.au (I rang the door bell of your mind but it's locked from the outside)
Subject: Public Library...Body Count !!!
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:06:07 GMT

		Body Count.... Cop Killer..

	After a quick visit to the local PUBLIC library to return
	some cassettes,I noticed a new CD collection available for
	borrowing...and guess what should be on the top !!

		Body Count's Cop Killer..

	What a shock..I heard (i'm an aussie) that this record
	was in the process of being banned in America and seriously
	doubted the possibility of ever obtaining a copy over here..


		After a couple of listens I was hooked...

	I'm a be fan of Ice 'Mutha-Fucka' T and P.E + associated sounds
	but am also heavy into other shit 

	ie Nirvana,Dinosaur Jrn,Sonic Youth etc

	So this really pleases me...


	Just thought I'd let ya know...


		      '	You sing your senseless songs to the mindless ' 
		Your general subject love in minimal it's sex for a profit

				Ben
				Newcastle University
				Australia..

			====God is real unless decleared integer====
From: eepnrcm@gdr.bath.ac.uk (N R C Merriman)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Brotherhood Creed
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:50:10 GMT
Distribution: alt.rap
Organization: School of Electrical Engineering, University of Bath, UK

Hi Boyz and Girls

Can anyone tell me where to get hold of the excellent (supposedly) recent release by Brotherhood Creed in the South West of England..

                         respect and thanks

                                         Nic..E-mail eepnrcm@uk.ac.gdr.bath

               .....increase the peace Booyzzzz
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From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Jungle Bros?
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 03:25:24 GMT


What's the 411 on the Jungle Brothers? I thought there was s'posed to be
a new EP out by now. At least that's what I read.

peace out--mark
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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (david j warner)
Subject: Re: Punk *ss Willie From Geto Boys!
Keywords: Reverse sell-out
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:48:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.004932.14245@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> behan@coos.dartmouth.edu (Patrick Kalaher) writes:
>I just heard about 'Fuck Rodney King' by that dude from the Geto Boys.
>Is this some sort of reverse sell-out?  Is he trying to sell records by
>making the most absurd statement possible at the moment, AND putting even
>more tension into the Black communities across America?  Yeah, I know about
>free speech and all that, but this clown is irresponsible... Does he really
>understand what kind of pressure King was under?  And Legal restrictions?
>This shit depresses me.
>Angst,
>
>Pat Kalaher,  Dartmouth Class of 1991
>*I speak for me*

I have no intention of listening to anyone who drops weak lines in a brew
commercial and then calls Rodney King a sell-out.  If violence is Willie
Dee's answer, someone should commit some violence on his ignorant ass before
he spews forth any more of this BS.

Like I've said before, I don't listen to a lot of gangsta rap, because most
of it ain't sayin' nothin', but those who do it right (Cube, Ice-T, Scarface)
get nuff respects from me.  Those who do it right talk the real deal and tell
you what really happens when you drop into the ghetto games - you lose. As far
as I'm concerned, Scarface is the Geto Boys all by himself, and he makes both 
Willie Dee and Bushwick Bill look bad.  

Zoom Zoom Zoom before you bite it, Willie...  

-- 
- David J. --------- BLUE RIDDLE PRODUCTIONS.  Bloomington, IN; Durham, NC. -
- e-mail: dwarner@cree.ucs.indiana.edu --------------------------------------
--------------------------------------- "America, the land of the fee."     -
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From: dander@mksol.dseg.ti.com (david m anderson)
Subject: DJ Quick - Way To Fonkay
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:14:40 GMT

DJ Quick's latest 'Way To Fonkay' is hittin hard.  DJ Quick
has to be the fonkayest person in the biznes or at least in 
the top 3 list.  This one is the typical DJ Quick, phat beats,
alright lyrics. mo phat beats and guest appearences by his 
crew.  He introduces a new fool, JFN the fonkay white nigga.
Does anybody have the 411 on him?

Has anyone heard anything about the new Main Source.  I can't
find it anywhere and am wondering if it got released.

Peace

DAVE
 

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From: ckukkone@jarthur.claremont.edu (CK3)
Subject: Re: Ice Cube ? Anyone know when his next tape will be out? 
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:39:08 GMT


My guess is it will be the soundtrack for Looters which he made 
with Ice T and there are supposedly a few songs with both of
them.  The movie was supposed to be released a few weeks after the
LA riots but shit happens.

CK3
Xref: sparky alt.rap:3851 talk.politics.misc:35698
From: ross@refine.enet.dec.com (The Vinyl Record Collector)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: EPMD Is Here....
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:08:18 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


New EPMD Album is in the record stores now (US; got my copy) along with House
Of Pain...

                                           T-Dub
                                           SHYGUY Productions
From: pkingi@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: 411
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:58:10 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand


De La Soul have a remix album out which is really happening. Has good remixes
of all their single releases and also some new songs. Get it.

LL Cool J was really cool until he did that 'Who's afraid of the big bad wolf' 
shit. Is that degradation or wot.

Peace as...
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From: ekundayo@athena.mit.edu (Enuma Olanrewaju Ogunyemi)
Subject: Re: Female Rappers?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:05:31 GMT

In article <2A689BE5.1469@ics.uci.edu>, bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
|> 
|>   For those who raise eyebrows when they hear "white bitch rap"
|>   How about Tairre B. (spelling?)
|>   There is one GREAT 8-minute song at the end, but I really don't
|>     remember being crazy about the others.
|> 
|>   She gives thank-you-credits to Eazy E and the Red Hot Chili Peppers
|>    among others.
|> 
|> 
|>   Also, Kiss AMC have a great song called "Rawside" from the
|>   Peel Sessions album  _Manchester_So_Much_to_Answer_For_.
|>    ALthough their new stuff for A&M now is a Janet Jackson type sell out.
|> 
|>                                                        K!z!K
|> 


Tairrie B.?  Booty MC City..  I remember one extremely moronic video in which she
kidnaps Eazy-E.  DOn't even think of spending money on her shit.  *I'd rather buy
J.J. Fad*

Selector DUDUBLACK


"I don't want no Ice Cream SOund to have a clash with my sound. I don't want no
one dub sound to try to test my sound." Johnny Osbourne
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From: fedde@Vaduz.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Subject: Re: EPMD Is Here....
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:29:30 GMT

ross@refine.enet.dec.com (The Vinyl Record Collector) writes:

>I read the inside credits, and it
>seemed like they gave a little 'shout out' to LL for his non appearance
>on the, 'Rampage,' video.  Could be wrong, but....

Some questions...

I saw the video for _Rampage_ and there is a guy behind those red curtains
that actually looks like L.L, but then I wondered why you never get to see 
his face. So that was not L.L? I really have no idea...that's why I ask.

How is the situation now between L.L and EMPD? I mean, after listening to 
_Crossover_ you wonder if they would tolerate L.L anymore. Any disses?

Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
From: gumby@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Grim Reaper)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:44:51 GMT
Subject: House of Pain...thankYO!
Organization: The Edge of Sanity
Newsgroups: alt.rap


 Thanks for everyone's help ( you know who the fuck you are!) on the House
 of Pain problem, i have mail-ordered it through a shop in England. EpMD
 is next on the list......!, i guess there are some real decent helpful
 brothers in this newsgroup....keep it street. PEACE.


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 Run, Run, Run, your time is done son, move out for the well hung young one
 - Mixalot

 I'm back in effect hows that, i'm not Teddy Riley but i'm swinging like a
 newjack - EPMD

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From: me_f316@ceres (+-=NUBIAN=-+)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: ATCQ:Rap Promoter
Summary: Lyrics like a scout
Keywords: DOPE LYRICS!!
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:57:34 GMT
Organization: Your Girlfriend's Bedside
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


As usual
.... I couldn't understand what the fuck they were saying
----- blank (they do have blanks in the tune that is)

Rap Promoter
------------

Its a fly love song

To the effect of nothing, effective fronting
Its what I don't allow so let me tell you something
I am a bona-fide
Not to modest and not a lot of pride
Soon to have a ride, and a home to reside
If my momma is sick I'm by her bedside     (like a true black man would)
Used to watch the show on channel 4 called riptide
Wash my wares inside cause its too damn cold outside
That's how the runnings go
If there aint no dough then there aint no show
So take your rolypolyfatbigboda (?)
To the chemical bank and get my cash.
If you wanna see the people scream and laugh
You best quest your ass and quest your ass real fast
Coz I dont wanna see em, start bucking
Throwing chairs in the air while you be ducking
What?, What? Don't step to me with that
If you promoting the show, make sure it aint wack
Or else I'm leaving (let me tell ya)
I'm leaving (let me tell ya)
I'm leaving (let me tell ya)
Your wack show

And the abstract rapper says

I want chicken and orange juice, that's coz I'm a writer
And my occasional potato .......
Don't forget my pastry, make sure their tasty
I'm not the type to be pushy or hasty
See I'm the type of bro that's reared in the ghetto
Took a few shorts before
Now the only ones I take are the ones that I wear 
Aint taking no shorts no more now
Please act proper 'fore I call the crimestoppers
Dont dip on the dough coz that's a no no
Make sure you count your money real slow
Be alert look alive and act like you know
It's the 90's time to make moves
Not the 80's do away with your woo's
So what? you got a crew
I got one too, they're called the Brooklyn Zoo
Don't break fool let's be reserved and cool
We don't have to act like we're in grade school
Just make sure that we're taken care of
And we'll do a fly show for you Bob
Check it out

--
		_______________________________________________
		| Aaron Brand: me_f316@kingston.uk.ac         |
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		|Thought for the day,                         |
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From: terra@reed.edu (Clippers in '93!!!)
Subject: Re: Hip Hop Bands
Organization: U.C.L.A.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:03:37 GMT

In article <DAMIR.92Jul21154759@wpi.WPI.EDU> damir@wpi.WPI.EDU (MR. Boy) writes:
>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 1992 17:31:17 GMT, muzik@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (joseph.t.maggelet) said:
>
>muzik> I saw The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy two weeks ago and I
>muzik> was really impressed. If you get a chance, see them. Check out
>muzik> the guitar/bass player on "Music and Politics", he smokes!
>
>	i second that motion!  if you get the chance GO SEE them!!
>one of the BEST shows (rap, or otherwise) i've ever seen.
>(sparks aflyin' (like on the album cover) and sheet metal abangin')

To anyone in L.A. -- if you wanna take these dudes' advice, go see them 
with Arrested Development and MePhiMe (anyone know anything about these guys?)
on Aug. 14th at the Palace (I think...it was an L.A. WEAKly ad, so I gotta
run to ticketmasterz and get the full scoop)

T.G.
From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: N2Deep
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:00:34 EDT

In article <mjohnson.0t7q@terapin.com>, mjohnson@terapin.com (Mike Johnson) writes:
> Article-I.D.: terapin.mjohnson.0t7q
> References: <1992Jul17.191506.20009@src.dec.com>
> Organization: BBS
> Lines: 12
> 
> In article <1992Jul17.191506.20009@src.dec.com>, kristync@src.dec.com (Kristyn
> Carr) writes:
>>
>>
>>Is there anyone out there with an opinion on "Back to the Hotel" by N2Deep?
>>
>>That jam is kickin.  By the way, does anyone know where they got they got the
>>backup from, I know I've heard it somewhere before.
>>
>>Peace from San Jo.
> ive heard that saxline in kid capri'S the apollo and in some newer song
> out...SHIt cant think of what it is....

**
That sax riff, the one from Capri's "The Apollo", was 'first' used in PE's debut
LP "Bum Rush the Show", or maybe it was their 2nd LP, anyway, the drum track in
that PE cut was the same beat bit by Madonna in "Justify..." , Smooth Ice in
"Smooth as Ice", and many other cutz that I can't remember.  Haven't heard this
N2Deep tho.  Peace.

==Phyz
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From: rebel@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Edward Piou)
Subject: Re: Info on Releases.....
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:26:17 GMT

gumby@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Grim Reaper) writes:
> Has anyone got any comments/reviews/release dates/marks out of 10 for the
> following :
> Epmd, Pos K, Mc Serch, House of Pain (this MUST be out somewhere by now..)

	Does anyone have ANY info on Paris' latest, supposedly to be titled
_Sleeping With the Enemy_? The one which supposedly has a cover with an
assassin hiding behind something, about to come out and shoot George Bush.
I haven't seen it out in the stores yet; anyone seen it? Heard it?
				ep
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From: agathon@athena.mit.edu (Brother G)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Police seek to ban Ice-T in NZ
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:48:48 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Jul24.113030.9600@waikato.ac.nz>, pkingi@waikato.ac.nz writes:
|> On the 'Banning Ice-T in NZ' buzz ...
|> 
|> I heard on TV3 news last night that Ice-T's label will be sued if any cops are
|> killed wherever Ice-T does 'Cop Killer'. Is that insane or what.

Yo, but wouldn't it be worth it?   And then feed the ham sandwiches to the
rest of the dept :+}    

Knowledge,

						Brother G

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