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From: dsimon@informix.com (Don Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Question for the net . . .
Keywords: Real Genius Breakfast Club Cult Status
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:03:08 GMT
Reply-To: dsimon@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software

Hey Geoff,

You've picked two of my favorite movies.  As to their status as cult icons...
Real Genius would probably apply given its limited audience.  The Breakfast Club,
however is difficult for me to classify, and of course someone could easily disagree 
with all that I have written anyway, to me it is a cult classic, but it was fairly
popular in its time...and to a degree still is.


Don Simon
Why don't we let the pigs in the parlor, they can't make more of a mess than you did!!
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty)
Subject: Can anyone name this movie /know Chinese?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 14:25:09 EDT

 
I've been trying to find the translation of a Chinese horror movie
I own.  A friend translated the title for me as "Terrible Twilight
Zone".  I thought a second opinion might be good.
 
 
I've seen only the first 20 minutes, but it involves an invisible
demon that causes people to slowly burn.  In one scene, the faces
of the demon's victims are burned onto a boy's back.  The demon
approaches its victims in fast motion perspective shots that are
incredibly scary.  It reminded me of the fx in THE EVIL DEAD when
the spirits of the evil dead chase Ash through the cabin.  THESE
chase scenes last for several minutes, though; and without a
single cut!
 
The demon in this film can possess people and make them decapitate
other people.  The fx are very convincing.  The decapitated heads
can fly, and one woman's head shows up in a kettle.  This film is
truly remarkable.
 
I have attempted to write the title below.  If someone knows the
name of this awesome film, please please please tell me.
 
If someone knows Chinese, it might be easier to print this posting
and connect all of the x's with a pencil than to try to read it as
is (across different screens).
 
Thank you!   Pete.
 
 
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From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Animated Short Question
Organization: Carleton University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:16:53 GMT

In <1992Aug7.151202.12056@kodak.kodak.com> charles@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Joseph J. Charles) writes:

>Kieth Goolsbey writes:
>>I saw a bit of an animated short movie yesterday which I
>>would like to know the title of.  It was the funniest
>>cartoon since the original 'Ren & Stimpy' cartoon in one
>>of the recent Festival of Animation collections.
>>
>>Anyway, it starts out with an announcement over the radio
>>that a nuclear war had just borken out, and everyone should
>>hide under something like a refrigerator.
>>
>>Then, a husband and wife are playing scrabble.  He has
>>nothing but E's.  She has C A R R O S T.  For some
>>inexplicable reason, whenever he gets blustered he starts
>>sawing on the furniture with a handsaw.
>>
>>Is this short in one of the recent animation collections,
>>and what is it called?
>>
>YES!!  This is a *very* funny cartoon.  It's called "The Big Snit,"
>and it was done by an animator from Canada, though I can't remember
>his name.  It is also available on video on a collection of Canadian
>animation.  Again, I don't have the name of the video or the company
>on the tip of my brain, BUT... I *do* have their fliers at home.  I
>will post the info over the weekend if no one else beats me to it.  The
>videos usually run about $30-$40.

>My girlfriend and I thought that the furniture-sawer was the funniest thing
>we've seen in a long time.  The way he turns around to hide what he's doing,
>viciously overbiting his lower lip while looking back over his shoulder,
>furiously sawing away at a chair is truly a treat to watch.  The TV show,
>"Sawing with Teens" was great too.

>What you forgot to mention that while the destruction of the earth is going
>on outside their house, they are arguing, hence the title...

>Wife:    Quit sawing the furniture!!
>Husband: Quit shaking your eyes!!

>After which, the husband saws the chair and the wife removes her eyeballs and
>gives them a good shaking.

>Details are on the way.  The video company has so far been reputable...

>About that animation question.  My university has just entered the
latter
>part of this century and moved onto UNIX so the answer may now be old
>news but here goes:
>The short was indeed entitled "The Big Snit" is is a National Film
>Board of Canada animation short by Richard Condie.  Condie has also
done
>"Getting Started" and "The Cat Came Back" and a few advertisements
>for the federal government which you don't want to see.








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From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: DARIO ARGENTO
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:52:54 GMT

In article <1684980FA.PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty) writes:

[Nice summary of video sources for uncut Argento -- Thanks!]

>Eccentri-Cinema and Domovideo both have the uncut 121 min. version of
>DEEP RED, which I also have on video and have seen.  The "head
>squishing" is completely intact, as well as other bits of gore.

One small point: According to Fabio Giovannini's book _Dario Argento:
il brivido, il sangue, il thrilling_, DEEP RED is supposed to be 123m.

Ciao,

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@...)
From: dvss!jtroy@udel.edu (Jay Troy)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Crispin Glover
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 09:45:28 EDT
Organization: Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.

umgyles0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gyles) writes:

>  Here is the requested listing of movies made by the truly
> brilliant Crispin Glover:

[long list deleted]

> Besides his movies and his infamous David Letterman appearance, his 
> career also includes writing books and recording albums (See Twister
> for a sampling of his musical talent)

Don't forget the Crispin Glover hotline phone number that you can call and
get info on ordering Crispin product (weird recorded message).  I don't
have the number, but I remember it well.  I think they may have callled
it on the Stern show.



 Jay Troy        Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.
                 Computing Solutions for Business and Industry
                 P.O. Box 190 // Claymont, DE 19703 // (302)798-DVSS
                 Internet: ...!udel.edu!dvss!jtroy (jtroy@dvss.UUCP)
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From: montyb@alpha.aosg.gsf.dec.com (Monty C. Brandenberg)
Subject: Re: Bis ans Ende der Welt
Organization: AOSG
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:40:57 GMT

In article <BORIS.92Aug21151725@math9.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de>, boris@math9.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (Boris Hemkemeier) writes:
|> 
|> W.W. announced a 8+ h directors cut version of "Bis ans Ende der
|> Welt" (at least for germany).
|> 

If true, this would be wonderful!  The U.S. release of the video came 
out yesterday (I have a copy in hand).  It's something like 158 minutes
so I imagine it corresponds to the US edit of the movie.

					Monty
From: michael@albert.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Can anyone name this movie /know Chinese?
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:48:48 GMT
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu's message of 18 Aug 92 18:25:09 GMT

In article <16847CAC6.PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty) writes:

  =I've been trying to find the translation of a Chinese horror movie
  =I own.  A friend translated the title for me as "Terrible Twilight
  =Zone".  I thought a second opinion might be good.

[movie description deleted]
   
  =I have attempted to write the title below.  If someone knows the
  =name of this awesome film, please please please tell me.

  =If someone knows Chinese, it might be easier to print this posting
  =and connect all of the x's with a pencil than to try to read it as
  =is (across different screens).

I've just asked a colleague of mine (who is from China) what the
charcters mean (I have an interest in languages myself.)
The first one means "strange" or "weird", while the second one
means "talk". So "Strange Talk" would be a closer translation,
although I wouldn't know what that would have to do with flying
demons. It sounds more suited for a new title for alt.cult-movies. :)
You probably could check in a chinese-to-english dictionary, but
I don't think that'll get you an "Official" title. Good Luck!

  =Thank you!   Pete.
Anytime!  Chaplin.

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Michael Chaplin                    Language is a virus from outer space.
michael@albert.bu.edu                     - William S. Burroughs

The Einstein Papers Project        The opinions contained herein reflect
Boston University                      neither those of the project, 
Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A.          nor those of Albert Einstein.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: Firefox sequel - was it made????
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:40:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.171622.320@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, mech413@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes...

} Now I heard a rumor that the sequel "Firefox Down" had been made but I
} have never seen any reference it.

It was never made. Or, maybe to put it more precisely, it was never released.
It *might* have been made and is languishing in a studio vault somewhere,
but I've never heard of it being made.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: pace@usace.mil (Joe Pace)
Subject: Eraserhead
Keywords: Eraserhead Lynch pencils
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers, Sacramento District
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 06:27:48 GMT

Any "Eraserhead" fans out there?

Joe
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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Devils
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:14:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <iroderic.713664632@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
>In <1992Aug12.082141.17239@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sboiarsk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean L Boiarski) writes:
>
>Do you recall the case a while back with the gynecologist being
>charged with sexually assaulting his patients?  Many of the women who


Did you see "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle"? This case must have been used
for this movie.
			Laurel

__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

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                                                  there in the light---
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From: opsa@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (S.Adams)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Name This Movie
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:23:55 GMT
Reply-To: opsa@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

Fandango
Steve
Xref: sparky alt.cult-movies:6809 rec.arts.movies:25026
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Eraserhead ...You get a love letter from me...
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:01:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Aug18.020137.23274
Organization: Western Washington University


AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark) writes:

>In article <1992Aug15.175648.13593@henson.cc.wwu.edu>,
>n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>>
>>I really dug the "Hey!  ...Wanna go for a ride man?" scene, also.  What
>>a nasty guy!
>>And what was that pill he took at Frank's place-  speed?  PCP?  I
>>thought it could have been either from the "love letterish" way he was
>>acting.   The anestetic behavior made me think of pcp.

>  That was Ben's place - "pussy heaven".

	Typo.  What a name for that fat-lady freakshow.   Throughout
that movie I always wanted to find out more about the bad guys.  I
agree with you that Frank Booth is the number one bad guy.  Jim Woods
in "The Onion Field" was decent, but Hopper takes the prize surely.
He was just an all around intimidating, no class, neurotic, crooked,
vice-addled, no good kinda guy.  A perfect movie villian.

	Ben (Dean Stockwell), I wanted to know more about him too.
He seemed to be a bum, cool as hell in his own mind, nothing but a
small time pimp with a stable of gross out cows, but still the pimp-master 
of the one-whorehouse-town smallsville midwest type place all these
unwholesome people infested.

	Frank Booth, he killed people, stole their stuff, and sold it.
He seemed pretty small-time to me also, because how many times can you
do that kind of thing in a small town and get away with it?

>  Frank ("Don't you fuckin' look at me!") Booth is my all-time favorite
>  movie bad guy.  Not since Richard Widmark pushed a crippled old lady
>  down a flight of stairs has there been such a complete movie creep.

	Saw it.  Dug it.  All it lacked was a slow-mo pan in on the fall.
What movie was that?  I want to record it next time it comes on.   B&W, 
creepy animal trash who is the king of the universe in his own mind, gets 
busted at the end for shooting main character, ex con.

>  ** "Blue Velvet" spoiler **

>  I was always disappointed with the ending, though.  Now, if it had
>  been any other writer/director, I would have expected Frank to get
>  killed.  But I was hoping that David Lynch wouldn't go for the
>  "happy ending".

I could dig it.  Frank "you've got about ten fuckin' seconds to live, pal"
Booth.  Rubs out Kyle "cigar store indian" McGlaughlin, camera pans in
on Frank's happy smile, and credits role while "Blue Velvet" plays.

Jim "Don't you fuckin' read my posts!" Del Vecchio
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: kenl@idacom.hp.com (Ken Loo)
Subject: Re: Batman Returns - forgettable
Reply-To: kenl@idacom.UUCP (Ken Loo)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, IDACOM Telecommunications Division
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:57:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug2.000403.16380@zip.eecs.umich.edu> stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
>In article <GOEPPING.92Jul31093524@msi-s7.msi.umn.edu> goepping@msi-s7.msi.umn.edu (Jason Goeppinger [Math]) writes:
>>Don't forget Batman et. al are Comic Book Characters.  I guess a lot of
>>comic books have to stretch the facts and force situations to get all the
>>action in in a short time.  Keeping this in mind, I was able to dismiss
>>some of the rediculousness of this movie as comic book license and enjoy it
>>better.  
>
>*sigh*
>
>There *are* well-written comic books out there you know . . . 
>
>If I had a nickel for every time the term "comic book" was used as a
>pejorative I'd be able to mount an advertising campaign to upgrade
>their image . . . 
>
>Sorry.  Knee-jerk comic book collecter's reflex.  Never mind.

Ok, here's another comic book collercter's reflex which I make no 
apologies for.  Most of the ridiculousness in BR was not due to "comic book"
license, but "Hollywood license."  Unlike Shakespeare, Dickens, or any of
the classics, Hollywood feels the urge to re-write their own story when
adapting a comic book licensed character.  For some strange reason, 
Hollywood also has this same urge when adapting Steven King novels to the
screen.

Believe it or not, this is not the Batman of the comics in either films.
While I realize that comics and movies are two different mediums, and
things that work in comics don't necessarily translate well on celloid,
Hollywood really missed the boat with Batman.  The reason I say this, is
that there exists a GOOD Batman story which could have easily been 
translated to film without ANY changes.

For you non-comic readers, the story has been packaged in paperback
form and is entitled "Batman - Year One" written by Frank Miller.  I 
strongly recommend this to anyone who isn't a comic collector but is
curious about how good a Batman story can really be.

- Ken Loo

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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: Big Screen Super-Heroes, What next, the Shadow?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: alt.cult-movies
Date: 23 AUG 92 02:23:14 EDT

In article <cosulliv.714352000@sfu.ca>, cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan) writes...

[...]
} What about _The Shadow_?
[...]
} Does anyone want to get involved in fantasy casting?

Alan Rickman as Lamont Cranston. Not only is he a great actor and can be
properly menacing, but he's got the schnozzola for the part, too.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: Delicatessen
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:57:33 GMT

In article <iroderic.713739788@cunews>, iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian
Roderick) writes:
|>In <1992Aug10.040041.6719@williams.edu> 93rmm@williams.edu (Rhian
Merris) writes:
|>
|>>	Anyone seen Delicatessen?  Its a pretty cool French flick
|>>with very small release here in the States.
|>>				
|>>					Lord Jagged
|>
|>I tried to append a comment to this earlier but I think I screwed up.
|>Sorry if its redundant:
|>
|>I had said the film reminded me of a Jacques Tati film because it is
|>so visual and dialogue is quite secondary.  Evidently someone else on
|>the system, whose name I can't remember, concurs with me.  I have been
|>told that Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro have an animation
|>background which could explain the film's rich visual "vocabulary".
|>Does anyone know for certain if this is the case?
|>
|>                                        Ian
Can't verify their prowess in animation but I've read that everywhere
i've read about the movie.  I must also concur with your assessment of
the content of visual humor in Tati's work and this wonderful film.  
A lot of this goes even further back to the early animators and silent
film comedies as well.
Go and see this movie.                  

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