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From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Aditi, Arindam and me.
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:40:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE) writes:
: 
( quite few lines are deleted) 
: Deb,
: now I understand why people bash your mail all the time.  You are one
  *******************************************************
: of those people, who are still in their teenage year.  Grow up, Deb.
                                                         *******
: If two people agree on some aspects, does not make them so called  
: 'made for each other'.  Your adrenaline and other hormones are  
: running very high.  Think with your head and not your hormones.  Your  
: response to the rape incident was merely passionate, impulsive, and  
: impractical and therefore, worthless.  Your comments will be  
: meaningful if and only if you argue like a matured, logical person  
: and not another passionate young bengali, who spends most of his/her  
: energy in making baseless arguments.  By the by, for your information  
: sake, if you would have taken the time to read all my comments  
: written to Arindam, you would have found that in most of the cases, I  
: disagreed with Arindam and my judgement about Arindam is 'another  
: passionate, illogical, psedo-intellectual person' like YOU.
:  --- Aditi Sen.

:Well, Ms Sen, you may be representative of tens of crying souls.

---Sreehari.
: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Reply <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
:
  ( Deb's reply is deleted without his permission; sorry)
: 
:  - regards,
: 
:  deb chatterjee
: (a good samaritan)
From: budaraju@cae.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian Carpet Exporters Promise
Keywords: Child labor, Carpet manufacturing
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:31:55 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

From: hrcoord@igc.org (Human Rights Coordinator)
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Subject: Indian Carpet Exporters Promise
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:17:00 GMT

/* Written  3:13 pm  Jul 27, 1992 by hrcoord in cdp:hr.child */
Anti-Slavery Newsletter
June 1992

[The Anti-Slavery Newsletter is published by Anti-Slavery International,
180 Brixton Rd., London SW9 6AT, UK.]

Indian Carpet Exporters Promise to End Child Labor

The long running campaign by Anti-Slavery International to stop the
exploitation of children in the hand-knotted carpet industry of
South Asia is beginning to have an effect.

In India more than 30 manufacturers - companies that sub-contract
work to the loom masters - have committed themselves to the elimination
of migrant and bonded child labor among their suppliers. They have
promised to stop employing very young children in the longer term.
They also favor the introduction of a `child labor free' label, a
move backed by the All India Carpet Manufacturers' Association and
other manufacturers' organizations. All these groups are co-operating
closely with the Bonded Liberation Front and other Indian non-
governmental organizations (NGOs).

Thirteen manufacturers have already guaranteed that their carpets
are woven only by adults. Major carpet importers in Germany and
the UK say they fully support the Indian initiative.

ASI and other European development organizations strongly encourage
these moves. Now we need similar action in other carpet-exporting
countries, such as Nepal, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Otherwise there
is a danger that the Indian suppliers will be undercut by the
competition and lose their market share.

State governments, the Indian carpet industry and the NGOs are also
discussing rehabilitation of migrant child workers who are returned
to their home states. This would include basic education and 
training facilities.

ASI believes that the future of the released children will require
careful monitoring by social agencies to prevent the children
slipping back into other forms of bondage and exploitation.

ASI intends to seek agreement from importers, retailers, unions and
the public for the following program:

*all importers and retailers in the main carpet buying countries
should give preference to exporters committed to carpets `free'
from exploited child labor;

*this preference should apply equally to all the exporting countries;

*importers and retailers should take responsibility for the labor
practices of their suppliers;

*as soon as a `child labor free' label is available on hand-knotted
carpets, the retailers should publicize its significance.
From: nvk@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (nishikant.karmali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: PBS debate on supercollider...
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:05:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


 Yesterday on 7/30 on PBS NEWS HOUR there was discussion about Supercollider
 project. This was between Director, Roy Schittes(sp?), Prof Rustom Roy of   
 School in Pa. and two senetors from Louisiana and Arkansas. The way Rustom
  argued seems like he is from India. His facial expression and language 
  was like (using the words 'bogus' etc...) something peculiar to our
  deshi arguments to win the debate and not to didcuss the point. Whereas
  the director's facial expressions were calm and relaxed.
   Did anybody watch this program? Any comments.....


Nishi
From: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (Gopakumar VENUGOPALAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: The olympics and Bob costas
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:48:46 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


    Hear all ye patriots who cried hoarse when Bob Costas
    insulted India while the opening ceremony was on.
    If you felt it was a worthy cause to tkae up cudgels
    against NBC for the alleged villification,here is what 
    the tailpiece of a report by AP said on the match between
    Ramesh Krishnan and Jim Courier.......
    It is reproduced verbatim as it appeared in the Atlanta
    Journal and Constitution.
    "Courier said the heat didn't bother him as much as Krishnan
    did.The junkballer from India,ranked No.200,puts less pace on his 
    shots than anyone else on the ATP Tour,Courier said.
    'We call him the surgeon on the Tour ,Courier said.He slices and 
    dices and that's what he was doing today.

    We send third rate players from the country at the cost of
    the overburdened taxpayers and complain in our weakest and faintest
    voices when our performance is judged by professional and reigning
    world champions.If we truly and vehmently want to pprotest against
    this BIG BROTHER attitude why no quuestion the validity of the 
    Union Carbide Trial.
    The victims are going to be paid only $ 500 million that too after
    eight years ,while When the Exxon Valdez capsized off the Canadian
    coast,they paid the Canada $ 2 Billions for a few hundred turtles
    and sea birds killed.   
    I am not saying that wildlife is unimportant,but then what is 
    the respect India has and how much do they value an Indian
    national's life.
    gopa
    regards
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ksingh@pico.engr.mun.ca (Karunesh Singh)
Subject: Re: Universities in India (List)
Keywords: Indian Universities
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:07:32 GMT

Another U.P. university:
				GORAKHPUR University
--

	K.P.Singh			A LATA-MADAN FAN
	ksingh@pico.engr.mun.ca			
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil,alt.culture.us.asian-indian,alt.config
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: RFD: alt.culture.kerala 
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:05:42 GMT

Name: alt.culture.kerala
   
Status: Unmoderated

Charter:

1] 	To discuss the culture of the Keralite people including
    the language malayalam, politics, religion, films, music,
    literature and  news about the Keralite community 
    across the world.

2]  There is no forum at present on the usenet that serves
    the purpose, despite the large number of people of 
    Keralite origin in America and the rest of the world.
    The general nature of soc.culture.indian and the 
    high traffic associated with it, does not allow
    free discussion of topics mentioned in 1], which
    interest only a section of the total readership of sci.

3]  As the target audience is not limited to u.s.a we 
    propose to set distribution world wide.


	- Paul Chemmanoor,
      Manu Komanamana.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rathan@b30.ingr.com (Rathan Mandavilli)
Subject: Air-Ticket to Boston (Round Trip)
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:36:16 GMT

Hi Netters,

I have a two-way ticket from Huntsville to Boston and back,
via Nashville, leaving on the 21st of August and returning 
on 30th of August by American Airlines. This is a confirmed 
ticket and the cost is $ 175.00. If you are interested, please 
call me at (205)730-3423(O) or leave a message.

Thanks,

Rathan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hindu Refugees
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:35:50 GMT
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

In article <1992Jul27.145918.23802@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.033253.21996@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>
>
>>As I always say there's only two solution.
>>1. Abolish religion all together which is not possible as there's truth behind
>>it.
>>2.Unify all religion in a single whole. There has been only ONE religion
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>all the time in the history.
>>Take your pick.
>>Arindam
>
>I have seen you mention the above phrase on a number of occasions.
>I sincerely hope that you mean the unification of religions in the sense 
>of *Common Quest* and NOT in the sense of a *Common Creed*. Acceptance
>of Multiplicity of creeds towards a *Common Quest* is the key to end 
>the religious strife and conflict in the world.
>
>I believe I am right about you having the above perspective!
>Or, am I wrong?
>
>
>---raj
I mean abolition of all creeds. Religion is the science to understand
spirituality. What place does a creed have here?
Arindam
From: Vijay-Gurbani@CDSUN.FNAL.GOV (vijay@cdsun.fnal.gov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: SUMMARY: What is going on with 2nd. pref.
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:55:17 GMT

Hello:

A while back I had posted a note inquiring why the employment-based
2nd. category  was regressing. The date  for June  was current, but 
starting  in July  it regressed, upto the  point where now  it is 2 
years behind!

General consensus seems to be that the priority date will be current
around October - start of the new fiscal year. But no one knows for
sure. It has always been a waiting game, and this is no different.
I understand that the reason why it went back is because INS ran out
of visa numbers for the current year, and instead of freezing the
date, they deceided to regress it to a point where they were sure 
that all previous visa petitions had been approved.

This is my understanding of the scenario. If anyone has more recent
information, please email me as I do not have direct access to sci.
Once again, I will be more than glad to summarize (boy, a summary 
of a summary! is there no end :-) )

Thanks to all those who took the time to respond.

- vijay
--
 (____)   Chicago Bulls                33   54   Vijay K. Gurbani               
'(o  o)`  1990-91 NBA World Champions     24     Fermi National Accelerator Lab.
  \  /    1991-92 NBA World Champions  05   23   vijay@{cdsun,fnsg01}.fnal.gov
== OO =====#include <all_neccessary_evils>====All opinions are mine, of course==
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chepan@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Parthasarathy Nambi)
Subject: Re: US National Debt
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:49:57 GMT

shubu@cs.utexas.edu (Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee) writes:


>Interested in the US National Debt?  - It's $3,993, 287,737, which
>means with a population of around 250 million, each US citizen would
>have to pay around $15,000 to pay off this debt.



>Flames/Questions to shubu@cs.{utexas,wisc}.edu.

>Luck!
>-Shubu

 The debt is only about 4 billion? I think you are missing three zeros
 at the end - isn't it?

 P.Nambi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gopal@tamsun.tamu.edu
Subject: Re: 13-year-old earns degree
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:47:27 GMT

In article <MeRPCIS00WBK05tK1x@andrew.cmu.edu> Pravin Devineni Ratnam <pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.232647.24914@ultb.isc.rit.edu>,
>bkv2673@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
>(Platy aLoid) says:
>>
>>>In article <seOu=t_00WBMQ8D3FH@andrew.cmu.edu>,
>>>(Pravin Devineni Ratnam) writes:

Are you talking about Balamurali Ambati here( ref to NYC medical school).I 
think he is doing fairly well and I have an occasional article by him on this
newsgroup.
From: RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Kannadigas,Tamils, Bongs etc etc.
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:58:50 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Am I the only one tired  of these diverse groups representing every language on
 the much maligned rupee note! I am confused born in Kerala ( Paul Chemmanoor i
s a great writer), with Tamil as my mother tongue growing up in Sonar Bangla an
d coming of age in Bombay, and cursed with English as my main language. I am su
re i am not alone. I wish we would come together in a spirit of fellowship and
not form a thousand groups.

cheers...5rajagopalan
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:19:21 EDT
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Distribution: usa
 <92209.171144DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Jul28.050835.453@news.uiowa.edu>

In article <1992Jul28.050835.453@news.uiowa.edu>, rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu
(Ramakrishna Chada) says:
>
>In article <92209.171144DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> Deepak Srivastava
><DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>Hey all of you guys cribbing about Bob Costa's comments and
>>repeating again and again that India does has astro turf in
>>Delhi, Benglore, Chandigarh ..etc etc.
>>
>>None. And that is what Bob Costas may be was refering to in his
>>comments.
>>
>>regards..          Deepak
>
>Even if Bob Costa's comments on India are full of reason, his comments on the
>other countries are more than inappropriate.
>
>No body seem's to have taken notice of his comments about china.

An interesting point in this regard is that while we are beating
upon Bob Costa, has any one of us done a realtive comparison bet-
ween Bob Costa's commentary with that of any commentator from any
other prominent sports playing country ? I do not think so.

The point is this, if you sit down and do a relative comparison bet-
ween commentators from all sports powerhouses such as US, Unified
team, Germany, France, England, China, Japan, Koreas etc, you may
surprisingly find that each and every one of them is trying to sell
only to the viewers of his country and not others. On the other hand
the approach of the commentators from the 'have not' countries may
be different only because they do not have any personal pride to
sell so they can very well talk about sportsmanship, value of partici-
pation, and glamor and pageantry involved in being at the Olympic
site itself.

>
>Ramakrishna

ps: The main thing which I did not like in Bob Costa's commentary was
his mention of the cannibalistic habits of an ex-dictator of (Botswana ?).
This I thought was totally off the cuff remark but who knows if there
is any relationship between cannibalism and performance in sports.
The remark in any case was too gross but the gross stuff sells too !
From: vganesan@reed.edu (The Phoenix)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: alt.culture.kerala (r.f.d. kinda thing)
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:30:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Jul22.163026.17101
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Jul22.053729.14554@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>>>1] God, cant even smile without being questioned these days.
>>>   The whole state was declared 100 literate after the missions,
>>
>>That's the whole point I am a little suspicious of these "100 literate"
>>claims, there is  a catch or external factor in these calculation.
>>How will the state be "100 literate" if there are new born children
>>everyday, so there must be a qualifying factor like a certain age
>>group for these calculations.
>>
>
>1] Simple, if the kids dont know the three Rs at birth they get
>   stamped "Rejected" and sent to the nieghbouring states.
>   Where they sometimes achieve great fame and go under names
>   like MGR and Phoenix.


Sorry to burst the bubble Icarus, but both MGR and Phoenix, great
they may be, are more of malayalis than of anything else. It might
interest you to know that I have spent close to 1/3 rd of my life
close to palghat, so I am personally sure that the state wasn't fully
literate, Dammit give me credit for standing up to peer pressure and
being illiterate.;-)


>   Stupid Question.
>   Stupid Answer :-)

    Irritating poster ;-) ;-)


>
>>
>>		Yes it was enjoyable they never made me feel your
>>		absence.
>
>2] I am sure you must have enjoyed it.
>    Nothing like old friends.


    Yep nothing like old friends but unfortunately I still missed
your company, they still seemed a bit too erudite for me.

>    
>3] Nice Flaming. 
 
   Feelings are mutual.

>
>4] Stay Cool.

  Trying

Peace

The Phoenix


-- 
  The Greatest burden in the world is to have              The Phoenix
   a great potential.                                      Reed #252
                     Linus from "Peanuts"                  Reed College
                                                         Portland, OR-97202
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: me@comstore.uark.edu (My Account)
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Do we really have any solution?
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:00:39 GMT
X-Posted-From: comstore.uark.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <92210.142137DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu (Deepak  
Srivastava) writes:
> I have been following this debate for some time now.
> 
> Strange that all sorts of labeles are thrown on the
> CPM government in West Bengal. To an outsider like
> me, however, it appears that these are very reflective
> of only bhadralok bengalis in and around Calcutta.
> 
> After all what is the basis of CPM's power in WB ?
> Is it simply a massive pole rigging that continues
> year after year ? No. Because no where in national
> media I have read anything which happens only in WB
> elections but is not commonly practiced in the nei-
> ghboring states of Orissa and Bihar.

May be you have missed parts of the debate. One of the points made in the  
debate was that because CPM does not have any effective opposition in WB,  
CPM has been ruling the state like virtual autocrats. Cong (I) in WB is a  
worthless opposition, not only it is disorganized but also comprised of  
illeterate hooligans. Thus the issue, is even though a party has been  
consistently winning election after election, it is not because they are  
doing a good job, and are without corruption. It is only because we donot  
have any alternative. CPM govt. consistently is becoming the party of  
hooligans. Their basic philosophy is now irrelevant to themselves for all  
practical purposes. They are no different than Cong (I) or anyother party  
as far as philosopy or politics is concerned. May be you will be able to  
contribute something on the decaying political situation of India as a  
whole. -- Aditi Sen. 


> 
> So why do CPM keeps coming back, year after year, as
> a democratically elected government ? May be the people
> in the rural WB do want to see them come back to power
> again and again.
> 
> But what about bhadralok bengalis in and around calc-
> utta ? Make calcutta a union territory. And it should
> be ruled only by bhadralok bengalis and their inte-
> llectual offsprings in USA :->.
> 
> Will Calcuttans then have any solution ? No. And the clue
> is...
> 
> 
> regards..              Deepak
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From: suraiya@wipro1.Eng.Sun.COM (Bharat Suraiya [CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.american
Subject: Re: ABCDs take a revange !!
Date: 22 Jul 1992 00:07:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: wipro1

In article <1992Jul15.171625.2467@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Jul15.164122.1954@newserve.cc.binghamton.edu>, ba08142@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Hindustani) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>We abcd's are sick of you fobs.  Here is something for you
>>
>>	DCBA : Deshi Confused By America
>>
>>
>>-Take that Homeboy !!!
>>*******************************************************************************
>>
>>Chil out Devi...
>>Swami don't play that game.....!!!!!
>>
>>*******************************************************************************
>Come on, what happened to the other one that you had (-:. That was a better
>one and more appropriate. *PIGS:poor Indian Graduate Students. We are not
>that much confused. We are really poor.
>Arindam

If you feel so poor, are so poor and regret that you are so poor, I have a
suggestion : GO BACK TO GOOD OLD INDIA where you can hold your head high, 
talk your own language, eat your own food, BE YOURSELF !!!

INDIA NEEDS YOU ! 

Bharat

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: Lawyers !!
Organization: The Ohio State University
 srinivas) writes:
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:52:15 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.radio.shortwave
From: kandappan@asic.dec.com (K. Parthiban)
Subject: Angola vs India
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 28 JUL 92 16:24:18    

Don't countries qualify for the Olympics based on regional quotas?
In other words, didn't Angola get into the Olympics NOT BECAUSE IT WAS
a great basketball power but because it was the BEST of the lot over there
in south/south-west Africa?


ciao 
K.Parthiban
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