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From: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: SA vs India lunchtime score...
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:27:16 GMT
Reply-To: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


               SA vs India, 4th Test, Newlands
               _______________________________


              South Africa                               India
Wessels    b Prabhakar          0 (  3)  Jadeja     c Kirsten b McMill 19 ( 53)
Hudson     c Srinath b Srinat  19 ( 77)  Prabhakar  c Wessels b Henry  62 (256)
Cronje     c Manjrek b Kumble  33 (120)  Manjrekar  c Hudson b Donald  46 (209)
Kirsten    c More b Kapil      13 ( 47)  Amre       c McMilla b Donald  6 ( 16)
Cullinan   c Prabhak b Raju    46 (139)  Tendulkar* not out            45 (119)
Rhodes     c More b Srinath    86 (238)  Azhar      c Richard b McMill  7 ( 12)
"test" [New file]  b Kumble    52 (193)  Raju       c Cullina b Matthe 18 ( 74)
Richardso  c Tendulk b Kumble  21 ( 52)  Kapil    - not out             1 ( 17)
Henry      run out Jadeja      34 (109)  More
Matthews   not out             28 ( 40)  Kumble
Donald     not out              1 ( 13)  Srinath
Extras  (W: 2 N: 1 B: 2 LB:22) 27        Extras  (W: 3 N: 1 B: 0 LB: 7)11
Total  (R:2.11  O:171.0)       360 / 9    Total  (R:1.71  O:126.0)    215 / 6
                   Ov   M  R  Wi Wd Nb                      Ov   M  R Wi Wd Nb
Cronje            15.0  6  16  0  0  0   Prabhakar         23.0  6  48 1  1  1
McMillan          31.0  8  57  2  3  0   Raju              47.0 15  94 1  0  0
Henry           - 24.0  6  55  1  0  0   Kapil             29.0  8  42 1  1  0
Matthews        * 26.0 11  31  1  0  0   Kumble            47.0 13 101 3  0  0
Donald            30.0 11  49  2  0  0   Srinath           25.0  6  51 2  0  0

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From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Subject: What on earth was Inzamam doing ??
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 12:09:01 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Reading between the lines in Parthasarthy's postings from Austalia about the 
Pak-Aus ODI, I get the distinct impression that Pakistan (and in particular 
Inzamam) were'nt trying too hard in the last 10 overs. Or maybe he was waiting
to score 36 in the last over? I hope he was'nt trying a Shastri - scoring 39 no
to hike up his average. Anyone with the inside scoop?

Sudhama
From: deepakd@ural.Eng.Sun.COM (Deepak Dhamdhere)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: World Cup, South Bay residents
Keywords: world cup, tv
Date: 9 Jan 93 04:10:01 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: ural

Great viewing choice for the South Bay residents ! It's free !

A local sports joint has offered to show the world cup cricket
on its satellite connected TV. 

	Pizza Pub  (I guess it is run by someone from India or Pak)
	Intersection of Benton and Kiely in Santa Clara, two blocks
	south of El Camino on Kiely.

	Their phone number is 408-244-1543

Have fun !

Deepak Dhamdhere
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Re: SA/Pak/WI in SA?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:33:00 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <a2824ag.726827562@sunmanager>, a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager) writes:
>Hi
>
>Is this right, SA West-India Pak triangular in SA? Could someone perhaps say
>when and where things will happen? I'd just like to spend my holiday in SA
>in some respectable manner :-)
>
>Thank You


   Here goes the schedule:


Following is the full program:

Feb  8 : West Indies  v Nicky Oppenheimer XI    (Halfway House)
Feb  9 : South Africa v Pakistan                (Kingsmead)
Feb 11 : South Africa v West Indies             (St George's Park)
Feb 13 : West Indies  v Pakistan                (Wanderers)
Feb 15 : South Africa v Pakistan                (Buffalo Park)
Feb 17 : South Africa v West Indies             (Newlands)
Feb 19 : West Indies  v Pakistan                (Kingsmead)
Feb 21 : South Africa v Pakistan                (Centurion Park)
Feb 23 : South Africa v West Indies             (Springbok Park)
Feb 25 : West Indies  v Pakistan                (Newlands)
Feb 27 : Final                                  (Wanderers)
Feb 28 : Second day for final if neccesary

A pretty hectic schedule with a match every second day.


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail k.srao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
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From: urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan)
Subject: Vinod Kambli
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:43:15 GMT

In article <9301081415.AA13616@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
>           International cricket returned to Lucknow after 40 years. The
>historic event was illuminated by a performance of rare quality...  from Vinod
>Kambli. He seemed to be intent on despatching every ball to the river Gomti.He
>scored 10 fours and a six in a total of 61 (off 65 balls) before being hit on
>the forearm by Chris Lewis. His arm will be in cast for six days. 

Unfortunate time for this to happen to Kambli, with the first ODI against
England less than a week away. After living on the fringe of selection for
two years, he must have been a certain pick for the Indian team in place 
of either Manjrekar or Azharuddin. Hopefully, he will have recovered 
before the first Test.
From: barnard@ford.ee.up.ac.za (Etienne Barnard)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Oh.... Sorry Goochie.......
Date: 12 Jan 1993 09:20:26 +0200
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Engineering, University of Pretoria
NNTP-Posting-Host: ford.ee.up.ac.za

vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela) writes:
...
>I my opinion, Goochie's century in the rebel tour of SA should not be counted
>towards his tally since the match was not approved by the ICC.

This form of politicism ends up hurting all except the administrators
making the rules: if they for some reason do not like some person or
group, this approach gives them unlimited powers of destruction. Much
better to let logical criteria (rather than political fiats) determine
as many decisions as possible.

In this case the logic of the matter is clear: first-class status
indicates whether (a) the laws of cricket [or a sufficient
approximation] are enforced and (b) the quality of the players
involved is high enough. On both accounts the "rebel" tours pass
handsomely. I think it foolish to let various non-cricketing criteria
override this logic.

>A lot of good players rejected the lucrative offers of going on a rebel
>tour of SA. I am sure they are regretting now since the ICC allows the
>rebels to come back to International cricket. They must feel bad lossing
>a good deal of money.

I do not think that players who felt their refusals to be morally
justified regret the loss of a couple of thousand pounds; this loss is
in any case debatable, since it is hard to take into account all the
effects in drawing up a balance sheet of a cricketer's monetary value.

>What justifies the inclusion of Mike Gatting in the England squad? Gower
>supporters certainly have a strong argument.

>Gatting lead a rebel tour making his fellow cricketers ashamed. 

A rather selective definition of "cricketer" is required to make this
statement true.

>Spoilt the name of English Cricketers etc...etc...

Let us see whether this opinion is generally held in ten years' time ...

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From: sivap-m@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Muhunthan Sivapragasam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Sri Lanka : How good are they ?
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:38:39 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: sivap-m@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU


	Besides their good performance at home against Australians, and
New Zealand they played very well in NewZealand and Australia in the last
couple of years. Although i am not sure i think they had first innings
lead in the 5 tests ( 2 in australia, and 3 vs NewZealand ). In one of
the tests they bowled out Australia for 160 odd, and that was the
first time after 9 tests Australia failed to score more than 400 -- ending
a record.

	But of course they lost one test to India in India in between.
-- 
						S. Muhunthan,

	"The shortest distance between two people is a smile"
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Re: dougie for pak/Nz?
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:37:12 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1993Jan4.150231.9101@julian.uwo.ca>, raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed) writes:
>
>Would any one be runnig dougie for today's play b/w
>pak and Nz....?   j.n.a ?....., Mr. Rao (He must be back
>by now;))
    I am back but cannot run dougie for the Pak/NZ game. It is not on TV and I
cannot pick Radio NZ well. Dougie will be running for the Pak/WI game over the
weekend though.

K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail k.srao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: g9066624@cc.uow.edu.au (Tippu Hassan)
Subject: Re: Pak win by 33 runs - the swing demons do it again
Keywords: over rates, slow play
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 05:52:55 GMT

penglish@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Paul English) writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.015039.19388@leland.Stanford.EDU> urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan) writes:
>>
>> [Score details deleted]
>>
>>Wasim and Waqar bowled unchanged this morning - 11 overs each, over 2 hours.
>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^^^^

>22 overs in more than 2 hours ?!

>Does the 90 over rule apply in NZ, and if so have Pakistan being having
>trouble meeting the target.  This wont apply in this case since the match
>finished, but surely such an over rate, even given the fall of wickets,
>must be unacceptable unless there were other stoppages.


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while i agree that the over rate is slow ( provided there were no
 interupptions) i would still agree with micheal holding who said 
on the tele the other day that it would be a sad day for cricket if over 
rate regulations become the basis of team selection.


regards


tippu
From: atulthombre@hgrd01.enet.dec.com (The Solitary Reaper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Cricket Commentary Faux Pas
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:12:38 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <93011.094836SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>, Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>In article <C0o3KG.HB6@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU>, ggardner@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU
>(Grant David Gardner (Vacation Student - Summer 92)) says:
>>
>>Another classic, but I don't know who to attribute it to,
>>
>>"The batsman's Holding, the bowler's Willie"
>>
>another classic-
>cowdrey's in the slips, legs wide apart, waiting for a tickle.

	This one is not from the commentary box, but from an informal chat.
Sunil Gavaskar and others were discussing the issue of ball tampering in the
recently concluded RSA tour of India. SMG said, 

		"Oh!! Come on!! Everybody scratch their B****"

Cheers,
Atul.

> 
>Stay cool,
>Spaceman Spiff
> 
>Non illegitimati carborundum          Don't let the bastards get you down
From: KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pak innings
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:07:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Pakistan are all out for 71 in 23.4 overs. Scoreboard in about 15 minutes.


      Pakistan are now 50 for 9 in the 21 st over.



       Pakistan are 34 for 6 at the end of 14 overs.

       Dougie is giving me problems. Will try to revive for WI  innings.

       Akram is 12 and Latif is 2.

Z

Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: Indian team -- What now?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:16:35 GMT

In <C0pK4x.LK6@uceng.uc.edu> bnataraj@uceng.uc.edu (Bhaskar Natarajan) writes:

>In article <gfINC1q00WB28LG2hA@andrew.cmu.edu> Jayashankar Swaminathan <jsdf+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>Other than Shastri, noone needs to go out.
>>
>>Any comments !!

>	Yeah, B.S !! Chetan,Banerjee,Manjrekar,More, need a long rest.
>	Shastri needs a couple'a more shots..


	Glad someone else took up the cudgel this time :-> Yeah, Chetan
and Banerjee are history. Manjrekar needs a stint in the Ranji trophy
to iron out his problems (besides, it'll help Bombay in the knockout
rounds :-> ) and More (despite the YABBs :-) must be praying to the
Lord... Vijay Yadav seems to be a good replacement, equally good, if
not better, with the bat (India's answer to Rashid Latif??  :->) and
surely he can't be worse than More behind the wickets! If Yadav doesn't
come through, there's Mongia, and Saba Karim, both decent batsmen and
good keepers. Give someone else a chance....

	In summary, my suggestion, for what it's worth: Keep Shastri in
the lower middle order. Replace More with Yadav, Manjrekar with Kambli,
Chetan Sharma with Ankola, and perhaps, just perhaps, replace Raju with
Maninder. Heck, this is tempting :-> - I'll list my final 11 for the
ODIs here:

Raman     (Can't really drop him)
Kambli    (Srikkanth's successor!)
Amre      (need a solid #3)
Sachin    } Surely these two are
Azhar     } automatic choices....
Shastri   (can move up/down as per the situation)
Kapil     (ditto)
Yadav     (*better* bat than More in ODIs)
Prabhakar (perhaps too low a position for him?)
Srinath   (can't see Ankola & co. making it past him yet)
Kumble    (deserves a few more chances at least)


	Can't imagine any major changes for the Tests (despite the
two-team theory). Perhaps Jadeja/Sidhu/Bhave instead of Raman, and
Shastri-Kambli swapping places... BTW, has the team been announced yet
? Can't wait for the selectors to make a fool out of me :->

	Fire away.....


>Regards,
>Bhaskar..
>>  Name       : Jayashankar.M.Swaminathan



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From: rohanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rohan Koduvayur Kri Chandran)
Subject: Re: Indian Team.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 21:39:03 GMT

In article <Lsg=f__@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <6647@falcon.ukc.ac.uk> rsp@ukc.ac.uk (R.S.Pickett) writes:
>>
>>Here is the Indian team that has been announced for the coming matches. I'm
>>not sure if its just for the ODI's or if it includes the tests as well.
>>
>>M Azharuddin
>>N Sidhu
>>W Raman
>>P Amre
>>S Tendulkar
>>V Kambli
>>Kapil Dev
>>M Prabhakar
>>V Yadav
>>A Kumble
>>R Chauhan
>>J Srinath
>>S Ankola
>>S Raju
>>
>Looks as if the Indian selector read rsc. The opinions expressed by most Indians
>on the net (in general) have been - drop Manjrekar, Jadeja, Shastri, Chetan
							     ^^^^^^^

Shastri is out because of injury. Hopefully he will be back in the team when 
fit.

>Sharma, and perhaps More.


Glad to see Kambli is back in the squad, but IMHO, the inclusion of Sidhu is a
waste. I'm a trifle disappointed that neither Hirwani or Maninder has been
selected. 3 medium pacers is more than enough for India. AN extra spinner
would have been nice.

BTW, could someone tell me who R. Chauhan is. I don't recall having heard the
name before.

Rohan
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From: shafqat@neuro.duke.edu (Saad Shafqat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Top Ten Batsman from Pakistan.
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:14:47 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neurobiology, Duke University Medical Center.



The problem with Pakistan's current batting line-up is not one of
discipline or application but merely lack of talent.  These people
are just not very gifted.  Batting's batting prowess has been cyclical.
The 60's were bad times for Pakistani batting, but the 70's and 80's
were clearly its glory days.  Now, in the 90's, we have entered 
miserable times once again.  Just look at the top ten batsmen
from Pakistan: most are from the 70's and 80's, and only one from
the current team.


Top Ten Pakistani Batsmen (IMVHO):

1.  Javed Miandad.
2.  Hanif Mohammed.
3.  Zaheer Abbas.
4.  Asif Iqbal.
5.  Mushtaq Mohammed.
6.  Majid Khan.
7.  Mudassar Nazar.
8.  Saeed Ahmed.
9.  Imran Khan.
10. Mohsin Khan.


Honourable mention:  

Waqar Hasan
Salim Malik
Sadiq Mohammed
Imtiaz Ahmed



Dishonourable mention:

Rameez Raja.




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From: vs@cs.duke.edu (Vijay Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Aus vs WI, ODI
Date: 9 Jan 1993 21:17:38 -0600
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Subject: Aus vs WI, Gabba, Jan. 10
Summary: 
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Distribution: world
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.
Keywords: 


West Indies made 197/9 in their 50 overs after being put in to
bat by Australia.  Carl Hooper made a 50, Desmond Haynes 35 and
Gus Logie had 26 runs.  Kenneth Benjamin made a quick 19 runs
including a six off Tim May.  Wicket keeper David Williams remained
not out with 20 or so, unable to push the scoring rate along
in the slog overs.  Craig McDermott bowled well with a maiden
in the slog overs to restrict the scoring.

	Vijay
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:34:40 EST
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Waqar's Hundered Wkts...
 <93007.151447SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> <6md=m4+@engin.umich.edu>

In article <6md=m4+@engin.umich.edu>, sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
says:
>
>>>What is the record of fastest 100 test wkts?
>
>I think either Colin Croft or Ian Botham has that record. The number of Tests s
>i
>11 or 13 or something.
>
that's a ridiculous number.
botham needed 19 tests to get his 100 wickets (and 21 for his 1000 runs).
croft needed about the same number of tests.
i'll check wisden but i don't think that it lists that stat.

Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff

Non illegitimati carborundum          Don't let the bastards get you down
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: bowling speed of Waqar and Wasim
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:20:09 ACST
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: eco.economics.adelaide.edu.au

> The bowlers present there bowled not 6 but 8 deliveries and Thomson hit
> the stumps on all those 8 deliveries

Are you sure of this?  As I recall it the middle stump represented 3 points and
the remainder a point each.  Thomson hit the middle stump once and the off
stump twice for a total of five points.  The accuracy test was pretty
meaningless due to the statistical smple size.  Thommo was often quoted as
saying he had no idea where the ball was going so the batsman had no chance.




regs


Rob