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From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.couples
Subject: Re: SWF's & SBM's - Does Society Worry Way Too Much???
Keywords: Mixed Dating. Jungle Fever. Love is Colorblind...
Date: 3 Oct 92 17:30:52 GMT
Followup-To: alt.romance
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Oct2.201745.9834@unet.net.com> linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill) writes:
+whom are married), and no one bats an eye here.  In fact, my reading
+indicates that it is the BF/WM combo that is unusual, the *theory* being
+that a relationship with a WF empowers the BM while a relationship
+with a BF diminshes the social status of the WM.

One can always see power plays. Another is the assumed subordination
of white women relative to black women. A number of black men that
have I have met have commented on the 'passivity' of white women. I
recall reading an article by a black feminist which went along the
lines of 'When will white women quit lying down and spreading for
black men'.
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Subject: Re: It hurts like Hell.....Again
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:47:14 GMT

Jaymz says:
>so, In other words I gotta sell myself back to the person that
>already owns me eh?
>heh

Well, yeah...you see, she's taken you back to the store, receipt
in hand, and you've got to convince her not to return you!

(Either that or you can grab the receipt and tear it up!)

((Oh, and some places accept returns if there's still a price tag,
  so be sure and look for yours...))

(((Unless, of course, she paid by check, in which case she's going
   to have to wait until the check clears...)))

((((Wait, this is getting silly...))))

(((((Isn't it nice how emacs shows you which parenthese you're    
     matching up with?)))))

-sz
From: lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: How do you know if you are in love?
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:32:43 GMT


A close friend asked me this, about eighteen months ago.  I was stumped
but then I thought for a few seconds and tried to summarise it for
her.  I was actually in love with her at the time, so that helped!

I think you are in love with someone when:

They take up more space in your diary than you do.

Their happiness makes you feel as good as yours does.

You can't bear to away from them for more than a day - it really,
really hurts.

They can make you feel really really angry without being there, or
really really good in the same way.  (This person, is, I believe the
only person I have ever truly loved, because she is also the only
person I have ever really really hurt or been hurt by.)

Another thing to remember - the line between love and hate is a thin
one (see last paragraph).
-- 
Lawrence McIlhoney Esq., Department of Electronics
University of Southampton, United Kingdom.
"Live fast, die young, leave a good-looking corpse -
preferably someone else's."  E-mail lm89@uk.ac.soton.ecs
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Hunt them down and kill them (ALSO Advice on Long Distance Romance)
From: peregrin@husc13.harvard.edu
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:04:40 EDT
Organization: Harvard Business School

> 
> It's taken me a while to come back to the land of the living.  The whole
> incident with this woman caused be to dump on my friends - in some cases
> lose touch with them completely - and basically change my life for nothing
> more than a false promise.


	Wait to you get married and divorced.

> 
> Bitterness?   Try emptiness.   Try having it inflicted on you.
> 
> Try not to inflict it on anyone else.

	Yeah!

-James
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: nev@bnr.co.uk (Neil Vince)
Subject: Read This
Organization: BNR, London Road, Harlow, UK.
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:35:06 GMT


	Would the relevant parties please take note that this group
	is alt.romance and this is were things with a romantic nature
	are discussed, myself (and others I'm sure) don't really want
	to read about penis sizes etc in this group, that is what 
	alt.sex is for, don't go telling me about kill files because
	really this comes down to these articles being posted in the
	wrong group.

	Thanks.

Neil.

--

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                                        London Road,
tel:    +44 - (0279) 429531 ext 2685    Harlow, 
email:	nev@bnr.co.uk                   Essex,
        nevince@mcs.dund.ac.uk          CM17 9NA, UK
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answer to any question.
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: MODERN DAY ROMEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 27 Sep 92 09:53:23 GMT
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <1992Sep24.155026.1154@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_robertsdw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>I'm searching for a MODERN DAY JULLIET.

A 13-year old Italian suicidal girl?

No thanks!  I mean, she couldn't even program ;)

-Thomas
 resident technoshaman
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: Read This
Organization:  Boogie Rats on Speed
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:16:15 GMT

Neil Vince sez:
>I sez
>>So tell me...am I the only one tired of people saying or implying that sex
>>has nothing to do with romance? Sex darn well can be very romantic! Okay,
>>next question...am I the only one tired of people telling me where I can or 
>>can't post about certain things? Just curious...
>
>	1) I never said sex had nothing to do with romance!!!!

Hold that thought...

>	2) What does penis size have to do with romance? (rhetorical)
>	3) Romance === alt.romance.

Okay, I'll buy that...

>	4) Sex == alt.sex.

Now then...what was that about sex wrt romance? 

>	5) Penis size == alt.sex.

Weenie waving happens anywhere you go on the net, to a lesser or greater
degree...:)

>	6) Satisfied?

I don't know if I should answer this...satisfaction could be interpreted as
something sexual...:)

>Neil Vince                              

Tyger

-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break
From: PCT601%SIRIUS.UKC.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk (Robryche)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Anniversary ideas.
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:30:11 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Well, on the first anniversary of my girlfriend and I, I took her to the place
where we first decided we were an item all of 365 days previously. I.e. a
 shelter
at the edge of a playing field and we sat there drinking wine from a bottle
as we had that time previously.

Cheap? True, but all the fancy stuff can be done anytime. We just felt that
this was a nice way to mark the occasion.

Also, to the poster who posted about Long distance love, during the holidays
my girlfriend lives 2 1/2 hour drive away. That's about L20 a round trip
(about $40 before B.W.) But I still couldnt resist. This year she's over
in Italy on a year out, so money is rather a bit more of an issue. Still,
hopefully this January it should be the end of year two. I'll try and think
of something nice to do. If it's any good I'll let you know.

And if you can read this out there Nic.

 I love you.

@}-->--

   Who invented these? They're great.

Rich
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: freeman@ais.org (John A. Resotko)
Subject: Re: romantic songs
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:52:46 GMT

Some of my own additions, no less obscure than some...

Kansas:  "What's on My Mind",  "Opus Insert", "Away From You"
          "A Glimpse of Home", "Reason to Be"

Rush:    "Different Strings", "Ghost of a Chance"

Eric Johnson:  "Bristol Shore"  "Forty-Mile Town"

Anderson, Brueford, 
Wakeman & Howe     :  "The Meeting"  "Quartet"

Just my two cents worth!

John Resotko, aka Freeman
freeman@umcc.ais.org  or  adp89@msu.edu

CARPE NOCTEM!!!
From: pa_ross@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Mr Rossy)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Definition:  Nice guys.
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:47:45 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England

>Me.
>I am, in fact, a complete and utter bastard.  It's true.  Ask anyone.  Even
>bastards call me bastard.  I have no redeeming features whatsoever bar my
>overwhelmingly wonderful personality.
>

People like this make the world a much better place to live in, it made me
laugh when I read it anyway !

						 Paul
						=----=
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Balance
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:33:17 GMT
Reply-To: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

In the referenced article ollis@redbck.stl.dec.com (Stephen Ollis) writes:
>
>How do you balance the obvious opposites that you and your SO have?
>For example, I like to stay home and watch a video with my SO, she however
>loves to go out and party.. 
>						Stevo...

There are ~3 billion women in the world (ok, some are a little too old, a
little too young, a little too married or a little too far away, but you get
the idea -- there are A LOT!). Ask yourself: "Am I sure this is the right
person to be in love with?"

Differences like the ones you mention are quite significant -- especially if
you haven't been together for years yet (perhaps you have?). The *only* way
is compromise -- either you do what your partner likes doing more and vice
versa, or you both stop doing what you like in some agreed way. Many seem to 
try the former and it works for them, but in many cases all that happens is you 
breed resentment in the longer term.

Think carefully about whether you're in the right partnership, I say.

Stewart (Campaign for rationality in romance. ;-))

PS. And why is it always this way around -- woman likes to party, man likes
to watch TV? I feel the same way! Life.

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From: lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: how to know if you are in love
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:34:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


	How to know if you are in love is a question that always troubled me.
  So I thought I would add my 2 cents. I realized I was in love when I could
 not conceive of my life without my SO.  Although I never believed it, I guess
 that I fell in love with Lori at almost first sight.  There reached a point 
 where her happiness became a central concern in my life.
	Others have said the importance of taking it slow, and that is VERY 
 true.  My SO and I will not be getting married or even planning it to any
 serious extent for 3 years. One of the guiding phrases I try to remember is
 " If it's love, it will endure". So to all people just falling in love, take 
 your time. If it is real love, it can wait.
-- 
         "When you have eliminated the possible, whatever remains, 
         however improbable, must be the TRUTH !" Sherlock Holmes.
	 (The opinions expressed herein are mine, and not NJITs)
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:13:42 GMT
Reply-To: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

In the referenced article pa_ross@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Mr Rossy) writes:
>
>Finding a girlfriend is easy, finding one that you like is the real trick.
>
>					 Paul
>					=----=

Quite. Which is why I've come to the conclusion that it's just not worth
worrying about finding someone any more -- the chances of finding someone
you like as much as you like the look of just seem so slim, why bother? :-\

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:13:54 -0400 
From: Rob Earhart <earhart+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Coincidence?

  You know, the most *amazing* thing just happened to me...

  It seems that every year, *something* romantic happens to me on
September 26. Last year, it was getting together again after a big fight
with my last girlfriend (and that lasted until May), the year before
that, it was getting together for the first time with the same person,
the year before that it was getting together with another person, before
that it was meeting someone for the first time... etc. for a few more years.

  And this year...

  I was getting back from work late on Thursday. Pittsburgh was enjoying
one of its mini-cold snaps, and I was in a short sleeve shirt, so
instead of taking the bus I usually do I grabbed another that came first
and would drop me off a bit farther from home.

  On the bus, I found myself talking with a wonderful, interesting
woman. She must have found me interesting too, because she decided to
get off at my stop, instead of going one or two more down to a stop
closer to where she lived. We stood there on a street corner talking for
a half hour or so (one of us slowly freezing :), and parted, not knowing
phone numbers, addresses, last names, and only agreeing to meet again on
Saturday.

  Although either of us could have not come, and we'd probably never
have seen each other again, we both were there at the right time. We
took a *long* walk around downtown Pittsburgh, ate at a warm, nice,
restaurant, walked some more, saw a movie, introduced each other to
various friends we encountered, and basically had a spectacular time,
talking a lot the entire afternoon/evening and learning a lot about each
other in the bargain.

  So what *is* it with September 26? Not that I'm objecting... :) It
just seems odd that *NOTHING* like this *EVER* happens during the rest
of the year.

  (And yes, during the course of the evening, phone numbers were
exchanged, places of residence were visited, etc., so perhaps this is
the beginning of something... :) :) :)

  -Rob
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: shc@bluemoon.rn.com (n shane chambers)
Subject: Re: How do you know if you are in love?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 23:36:23 EDT

darkmoor@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Darkmoore) writes:

> 
>   How do you know if you are in love?
> 
>   I would really like some thoughts on this matter.
> 

Well as I personaly have only been `in true love` once, the bst thing I 
can say, is you realy don`t know untill after the two of you are seperated 
for a while.  An infatuation will die when the other is not around, but a 
love will last.  Unfortunatly this is the worst thing that can be, when 
you`ve broken up with that special person, and know, with out a dout, it 
will  never work out.   {sigh}

                shc


This is from
  shc@bluemoon.rn.com or ...nstar!bluemoon!shc
Who doesn`t have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet...

                                And doesn`t plan on getting one eather!

                                             *:)

(all right, I know I can`t spell, is it my falt I never learned the spell
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Female Size as opposed to Male size
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:40:17 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

>|> [about the average size of vaginas]
>"most women don't like having their cervices pranged."

Ok, I also would like to know what pranging is?

Any info in this regard would be most appreciated.
--Keith
From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: How do you know if you are in love?
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:25:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61442.student.cwru.edu

In article <BvM7K0.wI@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> darkmoor@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Darkmoore) writes:
>From: darkmoor@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Darkmoore)
>Subject: How do you know if you are in love?
>Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:57:35 GMT
>
>  How do you know if you are in love?
>
>  I would really like some thoughts on this matter.
>
>
>
>   Darkmoore
>
>
>
>
I always heard it explained:

"If you have to ask, then you ain't."
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.sex
From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 00:33:24 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Oct2.33717.21502@ms.uky.edu> dahead00@nx28.mik.uky.edu (Zippy F) writes:
>
>I usually nod off right on the keyboard....   Only to awaken and find that  
>the aliens from outer space have once again left a secret message on my  
>screen that I can not decipher (Lost my Captain Crunch secret decoder ring  
>a few years back anybody else got one????) Maybe I should get me one of  
>them SO's just to stop this senseless occurance...

Where's those guys who send wannafucks when you need 'em?

>ARE YOU GETTING THE  
>HINT GILBERT !!!!!!!!......

Don't call me Gilbert.
>
>TAKE IT AWAY BIG AL.........
Is there such a thing as *too* famous?  Well, I can't disappoint my public:
>
>
Big Al.  Who is asleep right now.
>________________________________________________________________________
>(the above line has been left intentionally blank for Big Al)

Gad, that was pretty lame.  I'm gonna start signing other people's names to
these if they want me to write their sig lines for 'em.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: naveena@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Naveena Michael)
Subject: How long has it been
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:46:16 GMT


In response to the question of how long has it been since you have been kissed
by a member if the opposite sex:.......

How about NEVER.... Am I missing something????

Blame it on my cultural background....

Naveena Michael
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Help needed.  Lack the financial support for a girlfriend
Date: 3 Oct 1992 09:38:04 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

Hi, first time poster here, so not really sure if this is the correct
place.  
I'm looking for suggestions on going out with someone, but keeping it
within my feeble financial limits (note, I'm UCBundergrad => no$)
So, any ideas will be appreciated (I'm also stupid in this area of life)
Right now, we're going to movies, but I was trying to think up something
more unique (or at least in our situation, something different)
Thanks.
-- 
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Just Babbling    	<bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu>	 state of confusion"
Disclaimer: These are my opinions.  I'm actually a really nice person.    :)
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: American High School & bits (long)
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:02:10 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Oct2.155712.5711@bnr.co.uk> dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley) writes:
>
>What is 'junior' and 'senior' (I know about proms now, but not the
>difference between J. and S.). Are there only 2 years in high schools?

American high schools cover four years:

Freshman (also "9th grade") -- 14 and 15 year-olds.  Pimply, clueless
	brats that get picked on, locked inside lockers, beat up on,
	and get their books knocked out of their hands.  They also
	have a tendency to fall in love with Seniors.  "Underclassmen"

Sophomore (also "10th grade") -- 15 to 16 year-olds.  Slightly larger
	than freshmen, these students are learning to drive, trying
	to get laid, and counting the days until their 16th birthday.
	(American driving age is 16.)  "Underclassmen"

Junior (also "11th grade") -- 16 and 17 year-olds.  These people spend
	the entire year wondering who they'll take to the prom.  They
	are also taking Achievement Tests and being told that "If you
	screw this up, you'll never be accepted at any college!"
	Their mailboxes are stuffed full of college brochures daily.
	"Upperclassmen"

Senior (last year, 12th grade) -- 17 to 18 year-olds.  This is it.
	Seniors often suffer from a disease called "Senioritis", the
	symptoms of which are skipping class, mouthing off at the
	teachers, not writing their term papers, and in general not
	caring about school one whit.  Being a senior is like being
	King of the Mountain: every other student in the school must
	defer to your authority (...or so you THINK.  Makes you look
	like a real ass, actually).  They generally start sending in 
	their college applications the day after their mothers have
	a nervous breakdown.  "Upperclassmen"

>Also, when do proms take place? End of year (June/July?)? Anytime?

Some American high schools have a Fall Prom AND a Spring Prom (where
do they expect us to get this kind of money??), but mine only had a
spring prom.  The Spring Prom is usually during the last month of
school before summer vacation, in the middle of May.  Some schools
have a separate prom for Juniors and one for Seniors, and some call
their prom the Junior/Senior prom.  To get to go, you have to either
be an Upperclassman or have a date with one. 

>[definitions of Prang and Chuff -- thank you!]
>
>Anyway, soc.culture.british/american & alt.usage.english are the real
>groups for such things...

Well, maybe we ought to put a "Key to Unfamiliar Terms" list at the
bottom of our postings?  Seeing as how the English used in America,
Canada, England, Australia (where else do people speak English??)
is so full of local idioms...or at least confusion!  ;-)


-sz