From: jbuckner@lonestar.utsa.edu (James A. Buckner)
Subject: Re:  not all white males are rich and wealthy
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:16:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.202947.7282@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> howiegbk@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jr Howard Mea Turner) writes:
>In article <17NOV199213391854@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu> mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
>>For example, Tuesday I caught just a snippet of his act wherein he repeated 
>>his oft-spoken belief that people should not cluster in groups to demand 
>>that rights (his words, mine would be 'equality of rights') be accorded 
>>those groups.  thEwIndBag's contention is that people should remain as 
>>individuals and succeed or fail through individual efforts.
>>
>>Ahem.
>>
>>This is exactly what one would expect from a white male, someone who has to 
>>have described to him what it's like to be discriminated against *as a 
>>group,* else he'd never have a clue.  The reason for folks to band together 
>>by gender, or by color, or by sexual orientation to ask for equality of 
>>rights is precisely because they are denied that equality simply on the 
>>basis of those things that bring them together as a group.
>>
>>One would only expect a white male like thEwIndBag to encourge people not 
>>to band together to cure what they see as injustice against them.  Simply 
>>because he knows that, as individuals, they are as powerless as they ever 
>>were and that only by working together can they ever hope to right some of 
>>society's injustices toward them.
>>+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
>>| Elliott Mitchell
>>|  Peabody College at Vanderbilt University
>>|  Nashville, Tenn. Home of the Grand Ole Opry
>>|  IN: mitcheec@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu | BN: MITCHEEC@VUCTRVAX
>
>
>By inferring that all white males wish to be oppressive and hold down
>other ethnic, religious, non-heterosexual person, you detract from
>your argument.  You have committed the same mistake.
>
>I am a white male.  And I am not upper-class, or even upper-middle-class
>in terms of my wealth.  And what I think sucks is this:
>
>	Scholarship money that should be earmarked for worthy students is
>instead earmarked for minority students.  Not to say that these students
>are not worthy, but if they get preferential treatment in scholarship funds,
>isn't that the same as me being discriminated against?
>
>	Make it fair, make it even, make it right.
>	But don't make it a quota.
>
>	Earn it, don't accept it.
>
>
>Howard
Howard is right as rain. I'm a poor white student, and most of the scolarships
for science/engineering majors are earmarked for minorities.

That is a lame-brain idea.

I feel that race and ethnicity SHOULD NOT be used in determining who receives
a scholarship. The person must be qualified to get the scholarship. I'm sick
and tired of people getting into college just because of their race.

In short, I believe a racist is someone who discriminates on the basis of race,
but don't come and tell me "Only whites can be racist". That's BS. As a 
result, I have decided to protest minority preference scholarships at my school.

If you can't make the grade, then get out of college.

PS: Have you noticed that affirmative action actually hurts those it was meant
    to help? Think about it. Minorities are dropping out of school at a fast
    rate. And who gets in on the basis of race? Just think about it.

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