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From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Laserwriter via serial port: answers still conflicting
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:18:05 GMT
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <m0lZg4b-0000HlC@crash.cts.com>, kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:
> 
> > From: TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL
> > It's amazing.  I'm still unable to get a definitive answer from anyone
> > on whether the Laserwriter driver will work over the GS serial port.
> > One respondent says definitely it will NOT work -- it will only work
> > over Appletalk.  Another says all I have to do is rename it to something
> > else (e.g., PostScript) and it *should* work fine.
> 
> Yes, I HAVE TRIED TO CONNECT A POSTSCRIPT PRINTER UP THROUGH THE SERIAL PORT
> directly. IT DOESN'T WORK. YOU MUST HAVE APPLETALK. Sorry, I thought I
> explained that before.
> 
>               -=> Message from Kim Brennan <=-

Everyone's managing to confuse themselves on this, and it's not a clear
issue anyway.  Let me start out with this:  we don't guarantee that the
LaserWriter driver will work without AppleTalk.

If you rename it (so you can choose it in the DC Printer control panel,
which ignores files named "LaserWriter"), you can choose it and a serial
port, but the driver makes some direct AppleTalk calls, so in the cases
it does that it's not going to work.  Those cases are not well-defined.

Now, you _can_ "directly connect" a LaserWriter to a IIgs and have it
work every time -- but you have to set up AppleTalk on both the printer
and the CPU.  A direct serial cable between two AppleTalk ports _is_ a
LocalTalk network, even if it's only two nodes.  For lots of people,
that works just fine.

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Support, Apple Computer, Inc.         | not those of Apple Computer, and
Personal mail only, please.  Thanks.  | shame on you for thinking otherwise.
^^^^^^^^ Technical questions are not personal. Please post them instead.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jcr1@cec1.wustl.edu (Jasyn Campbell Randazzo)
Subject: Re: Ultima V: Hard drive or no?
Followup-To: Ultima V
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 06:52:09 GMT

    Yes...  I have Ultima V also and would like to get it on my hard drive. 
 I have never been able to get it there.   Also, how do you get it onto 3 1/2"
 floppies.  I have been able to copy the other disks (2-6) on to a 3 1/2", but
 not the main disk.  And when I try to use the 3 1/2" disks it does not check
 for them, and only will use the 5 1/4" drive.
 (I have a IIgs rom3 with a 20M hard drive, 3 1/2" and 5 1/2" drive (one each))
     
     What is the deal with Ultima VI?  Is it ever going to come out for the
 IIGS?  Has "Lord British" dumped the computer which he originaly wrote them
 on?

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From: puskaric@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (petar e puskarich)
Subject: Re: Minimum RamFAST ROM's
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:31:44 GMT



On the issue of the Ramfast.  I am using a Rev C 2.01c rom Ramfast for the
past 6 months or so even with sys 6.0 with no problems.  The problems I have
had have all been traced to something other than the Ramfast.  I am also 
using their DMA memory board.

From what "I" have heard talking to the people at Cvtech, All they
want to do is provide good equipment at good prices and help those that
need help.  I am only had GOOD experiences with this company.  Then again
being pleasant with them helps too.  Just because something of yours is not
working properly doesn't mean that you can chew out the guy who answers the
phone on the other end.

Just my .02 worth.

Petar Puskarich
ppuskari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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From: meekins@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins)
Subject: Re: GS Moria Source (update)
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:58:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.175605.27602@acsu.buffalo.edu> ztsindi@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (The Independents - SUNY Buffalo) writes:
>
>	For anyone who wants to play with it, I will be uploading the
>Moria source I got from Jason Harper to Tybalt. Someone pointed out 
>that you can get later versions of Moria from Kukulcan.Berkeley.Edu.
>Thats true but I believe you will need a curses package for the C
>source. As of yet (as far as I know) there is no workable Curses 
>package for the GS. Of course, if I'm wrong I'D like to know where
>a curses that works like the UNIX version is!
>							-Joe

Well, I have a fully working port of termcap in assembly. It's designed
for GNO, but it currently doesn't have any GNO specific function calls,
but it would need an environment such as Orca or GNO so it can read
the environment variables. All the sample source do require GNO, though.

We're also finishing up a port of curses. I'm not yet sure if it will
require GNO or not.

GNO/Termcap will be included with GNO 1.1.

TIM MEEKINS                    Ask me about GNO/ME! - MultiTasking on a IIGS!
meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu     Procyon, Inc. 1005 N Kingshighway, Suite 309
meekins@bluemoon.uucp          Cape Girardeau, MO 63701   (314) 334-7078
                          
      "Computers aren't intelligent, they just think they are."
From: lius@romulus.rutgers.edu (L*I*U Publishing Company)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Print Shop Items forsale / Critical Mass Question
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:48:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: romulus.Apr.14.11.48.12.1992.2980
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I have the three Graphics Libraries (disks of about 120 Print Shop  
Graphics each) and the Print Shop Companion for sale.
                    
The Companion is a disk of extra Print Shop Features, including a
border editor, a Creature Maker, a Calendar Maker (<-really good), a Font
Editor, and an improved Graphic Editor.
                                     
The Graphics Libraries are stocked with pictures of every subject imaginable.
        
Best offer nabs 'em.  I'm looking for around $5 for each of the Libraries and $15 for the Companion.  Or, $25 for all.  You pay shipping.


On a side note, does anyone rememer the same "Critical Mass"?  I think
it was publishied by Serius.  I just dusted it off after about 7
years, and remember that I never finished it.  Does anyone remember
it, or have a hint book which mentions it?  If so, send me mail
pronto!

Apple II forever (i.e. 'till hell freezes over)

Thanks, 
Steve (lius@remus.rutgers.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian R Schmidt)
Subject: Re: sys6 and AEHD Disk3.5
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:34:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.142040.1555@samba.oit.unc.edu> Jeanne.Chappell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jeanne Chappell) writes:
>I have had a problem with sys6 - wondering if anyone else has had the same
>experience.  I have an AEHD 3.5 floppy drive (Applied Eng. high density drive) 
>When I have the AEHDDisk3.5 driver installed in */system/driver, System 6.0
>hangs on bootup.  Obviously this is a AE problem but who wants to call their
>900 number?  The drive works fine as an 800K drive but without the driver
>I can not use it as a High Density Drive.

*flame on*

Why would you want to?  The AEHD running in high density mode is one of the
screwiest kludges I've ever owned...youre better off with it as an 800k.

*flame off*

Now then, System 6.0 works flawlessly with my AEHD driver.  Are you sure
you're not trying to use both AE's and Apple's drivers at the same time?
That could cause some serious problems.

>Jeanne Chappell  bbs.oit.unc.edu
>
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From: jdeitch@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Is Prodos 8 2.0.1 faster than P8 1.9 ?
Date: 5 Apr 92 15:09:26 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

Has anyone noticed a speed difference between ProDOS 8 1.9 and 2.0.1 ?

I swear 2.0.1 loads files faster than the old version and has faster
disk access (3.5, Unidisk 3.5, and 5.25) all around than P8 1.9 ...

Andy ?  Dave ?  Anything new ?

- Jonathan 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mark@trillian.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Manning)
Subject: Re: System 6 Finder Icons (again)
Organization: Simulacron I
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:40:19 GMT

I haven't had this kind of a problem with the //gs but I have had a similar
problem on the IBM PC when I booted it.  Maybe this will help.

The problem on the IBM PC when I booted was that some of the programs I
kept in sub directories would not come up.  However, sometimes they would
come up as well.  After hours and hours of trying various things I
determined that those things which I had to have installed should be
kept in the same root directory as COMMAND.COM, AUTOEXEC.BAT, etc...
The only reason I could determine was that when the IBM was installing
that portion of the code which handled the HFS it would also be trying
to load in other portions as well and if some of these things were in
a hard to find location (like a different partition or another hard
disk drive) that the IBM just couldn't find them sometimes simply because
the HFS software hadn't been fully loaded.

Ok - so my reasoning stinks.  It doesn't matter.  I placed everything in
the top level directory that I wanted loaded in and the problem went away.
But since that time I have noticed that the Macintosh will sometimes not
properly start up applications if they don't all reside on the same
hard disk as the System Folder.  Why?  I have no idea.  I just think it
might have something to do with the fact that the Mac also uses an HFS
filing system and that the same problem is happening there.

So my $0.02 worth is: Place your icons on the same disk drive as your
System and see if that fixes the problem.  If it does - then you've
simply run into the same problem I had.  Otherwise - I have no idea
what is the matter.  :-)
From: shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Launcher!
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:55:12 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <PFuyiB4w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:

>Good idea...next Finder, perhaps? Andy?

While I keep close tabs on what Dave's doing to the Finder now, I no longer
work for IIGS System Software.  I work for Ron Lichty with the Macintosh
Finder Team.  I -do- contribute every now and then (like trying to get the
Keyboard Navigation INIT written in one night at Dave's), but I'm no longer
directly responsible for the Apple IIGS Finder.

andy

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From: terry@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Terry DeSmet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Need HELP to connect generic printers to GS
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:18:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr16.191829.6404
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

How about posting answers about connecting non-Apple printers to GSs?  Is a
24-pin interface required in order to connect a 24-pin printer?  What about
programs such as Appleworks 3.0 and SuperFonts?
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From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0 Auxtypes...
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:15:35 GMT
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <VocJiB2w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca>, toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
> 
> I remember seeing this in a IIGS technote...I think it was 76? Why the heck 
> do I remember that...perhaps DAL used an especially noticeable middle name 
> like "Spirit of '76" or something. Or maybe he just wishes he'd thought of 
> it...babble...
> 
> Marc Sira               |
> toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Why are you always shaaaking yer eyeballs?"
> CI$ 70253,2574          '

Things are more logical than that if you try.  Try looking in the File Type
Notes for $B3 and $B5.

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Technical  | The opinions expressed herein are
Support, Apple Computer, Inc.         | not those of Apple Computer, and
Personal mail only, please.  Thanks.  | shame on you for thinking otherwise.
^^^^^^^^ Technical questions are not personal. Please post them instead.
============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bb252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James L. Brookes)
Subject: Re: System 6.0 BUGS???
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 22:48:41 GMT


dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
 
 
>5. Trying to execute a BASIC program gives me the message "To run a PRODOS
>>application, the file must reside on a PRODOS volume." It does.
>>
>>Please help!!!!!! Thanks.
 
>In 5, is the message on the desktop or the text screen?  If it's on the
>desktop, the Finder is complaining--if it's on the text screen, the
>Finder thought everything was fine, but GS/OS thought the application
>was on a non-ProDOS (and non-AppleShare) disk.
 
I've had this happen with while double-clicking on an NTGS module from
the Finder Desktop.  Works fine from within the folder...
 
So, why should Finder complain about this?
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From: quest@edsi.plexus.COM (Scott Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: at least we lasted... :)
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:31:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Apr14.113129.27402
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

synthgenius@cedar.circa.ufl.edu writes:

>mGee, I remember hearing all that chatter a



>Geebout how great the AMiga w

>Gee, I remember hearing about how greate the Amiga was,
>and while I was reading this months Computer Monthly,
>I understand that they're being disconntinued or at least
>put in the same unsupported boat as us?

>-SG?

Unfortunately, third party company support for it is much stronger than
ours becasue the Amiga designers and engineers have leaked out the
necessary info on the roms to each computer etc that the 3rd parties can
do everything necessary keep even the 500 alive. (they have simply made
a software amiga 3000 emulator that multi-tasks to enable it to run all
the more powerful software without much loss of speed.)  Geez, they even
do a MAC +/Classic emulator that runs faster than the cursed machine
their emulating (on software or hardware--your choice, speed vs no cost)
!!
I dunno, they have evry bit as good a product to work with as we do.  I
still will have my //GS at college hooked up to the 19200 direct data
line.  (thats a meg every 10 minutes of speed!)  Even after Apple sent a
real good deal " Macs for students" and great prices (If I had the
1000's for one, Id buy a NeXT instead..), what a deal, ONLY $2000 for an
LC II and a laser printer.  And we all know how high the price list goes
from there...
SCott
(Geez this rambled a bit...)

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quest@edsi.plexus.com  doing the impossible for so long with so little
acct040@carroll1.cc.edu   that we can do anything with nothing.
From: ltchean@iss.nus.sg (lim thye chean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Sound resource
Date: 9 Apr 92 07:50:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: nuscc.1992Apr9.075028.9801
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Originator: ltchean@rambutan


I wonder why nobody ask this...

Where can I get the sounds for System 6? We have a lot of digitized sound,
and how do we convert it to the files used in System/Sounds?

I found that you can drag a HyperCard stack into the System/Sounds folder, and
the sound can be selected in the control panel. But putting all sounds into
one stack (what I am doing now) is not a very smart way.


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          Lim Thye Chean: Lim is my surname. My name is Thye Chean.
     My address: LTCHEAN.ISS.NUS.SG, or 9, College Green, Singapore 1129 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: IR Finder Extra 1/1
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 15:46:02 EDT

bb252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James L. Brookes) writes:

>  
> And I'd like to point out that you followed up to both comp.sys.apple2 and
> comp.binaries.apple2 :-).  Talk about putting your foot in your mouth...B-)

Ahh...but it was intentional for me. I knew it was cross-posted, but I 
actually Followed from c.b.a2. _I_ wasn't being net-cop...B-)

On that note again, should messages really be cross-posted between binaries 
and readable newsgroups?

> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> |           James Brookes           | Oggnet:  House of Games, User #209     
> |``What, me worry?'' - A. E. Neuman | Usenet:  bb252@cleveland.freenet.edu   
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::


Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Why are you always shaaaking yer eyeballs?"
CI$ 70253,2574          '
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 20:02:59 EDT
From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,
Subject: Sys 6 prob: Sound Level Control

I'm posting these as seperate problems to keep them in seperate response
threads.  I've been hesitant to post because I didn't not want to come out
like most others and say "HEY! This is a new problem" when it's already
been discussed for two weeks or it's not really a bug.  However, I haven't
seen anything about this, so I'm going to post about it...

After booting System 6, there seems to be a problem changing the volume with
the OpenApple-Control-ESC text-based Control Panel.  When I try to raise or
lower the volume (right and left arrow keys, of course), the level jumps up
or down by TWO steps instead of the normal one.  Usually, it only happens in
the MIDDLE range of steps!  There are 15 "steps" of sound level -- the first
4 or so go by one, then from 4, if I press right (up) it goes step-step (up
to 6) and from 6 to 8, etc... up to about 12 where it goes by ones to 15
again.  This has happened in numerous programs (including MODzap,
NoiseTracker, and some others).  It does "beep" twice when jumping (i.e. it
does actually do step 5, but acts like you hit the key again to go to step
6 and beeps there too).  If this has been discussed, and I missed it, then
I am sorry -- just let me know.  Otherwise, any suggestions of what to do or
questions of more detail can be mailed or posted.  Thanks.

 - John Goggan [NeXT-Mail fine at:  jgoggan@opus.csv.cmich.edu]
               [or use this reply address if you'd rather...]
From: vokey@hg.uleth.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RE: Sokoban 2.1 on c.b.a2
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:50:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

What is comp.binaries.apple2?  How does one access it?
Thanks is advance.
John R. Vokey
Department of Psychology
University of Lethbridge
Lethbridge, Alberta
CANADA  T1K 3M4
vokey@hg.uleth.ca

PS: please reply directly to me
From: dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com (Doug Granzow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple ][ stuff for sale
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:25:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-iisysops]

georgeb@seer.mystic.com (George Bako) writes:

>  ... relax, and I will post this messages whenever i feel like it.

>  Anyways, cool off.  If you don't like reading my messages, then
>write one of those kill message files.  And don't tell me what to
>post.. Nobody else minds except you..

Well, just because noone else said anything doesn't mean they approve of what
you are doing. The fact is, a lot of people, including me, are paying a lot of
money to transport these messages all around the world. This is an expensive
network, and nobody has any rights, just privileges. If you had to pay for
your network feed (I'm assuming you don't, although I don't really know) you
might consider being more careful about the size of messages you post.

I don't know if there's any official rule for or against advertisements on
comp.sys.apple2, but I *personally* think that concise, non-repetitive ads are
acceptable. 

Doug Granzow           dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com  or  ...crash!pro-iisysops!dig
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 to make its way thru Congress" --George Bush   | +1 410 549 2584 USR DS v42b
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Reply to Re: ShrinkIt 1.0.5 and .Z
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 09:05:32 GMT

is there a version of tr available for the GS?  That way someone could
use those aliases on the GS side as well as Unix.  I _assume_ that GNO
has tr - but is there a version for either Prodos 8 or GS/OS unenhanced
shell environments?
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From: dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com (Doug Granzow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GBBSupertac 7.1
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:10:23 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-iisysops]

TJK111@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>We are a valid GBBS Pro V 1.3. We are interesting in using SuperTac 7.1
>Is our GBBS version current enough? Where do we find the upgrade and how much?
>
>Can we use the Zmodem protocol with Exfer? Thanks for any help.

You'll probably want to upgrade to GBBS version 2.14. I think the upgrade
it $25. SuperTac 7.1 requires some of the new features of ACOS only found
in GBBS 2.0 and later. To upgrade, contact L&L Productions at 100 W.
Pueblo, Suite 200, Reno NV 89609. Phone numbers are: Voice (702) 322-5533,
BBS & Fax (702) 322-5551.

EXfer itself doesn't support Zmodem and, in fact, is no longer being
marketed or officially supported. If you have the Zmodem externals, though,
there are a couple of mods you can use to allow Zmodem transfers in EXfer.
The mods are available on the L&L Support BBS, the II Sysops BBS, and
probably many others.  (Too bad about EXfer, it was an excellent piece of
software.)


Doug Granzow           dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com  or  ...crash!pro-iisysops!dig
"The aging process could be delayed...if it had | Call: The 'II Sysops' BBS
 to make its way thru Congress" --George Bush   | +1 410 549 2584 USR DS v42b
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