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From: bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy)
Subject: Re: writers interested in stories
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 14:27:30 GMT
Organization: Be. I am.

In article <1992Sep4.062244.344@cco.caltech.edu> patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz) writes:
>I am co-writing a book with a Russian woman about the history of the
>underground culture in Russia. We plan to begin with Pasternak and
>"Dr. Zhivago," and finish with rock culture and finally Parliament
>Square. We are doing together, an American and a Russian, because
>well for many reasons, but maybe that's not important.

With that attitude, and including Pasternak to underground culture and
starting underground culture from "Dr. Zhivago" and putting 
Pasternak and rock (and then "trepachei s Pushki") to the same level
- oh, boy. 

"Chukcha ne chitatel' - chukcha pisatel'"
(Chukcha isn't reader, chuckha is writer).

As usual - intentions are good and emotions are strong and result
most probably would be disastrous.

>Anyways, we are intersted in hearing any personal stories with samizdat,
>or rock culture or any other topic that seems apropos.
>
>Thank you,
>patricia@cco.caltech.edu
>
>PS I am leaving the US on Sept.14 for three months in Moscow,
>during which I will have only limted access to email.
>PPS I would love to hear an assortment of opinions about the novel
>"Dr. Zhivago," and the film, too.

Yes, and the film! Are you sure they are connected in any way?

	-igor
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Currency exchange in Moscow
Date: 3 Sep 1992 20:31:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Money

In article <1992Sep3.141543.22511@shearson.com> brekshyn@shearson.com writes:
>to change currency there?  I don't want the "official" rate for American dollars,
>but rather the "true" rate.  Also, what things should one watch out for, i.e.
>dangerous dealers, unscrupulous (sic) people, et cetera?  Please feel free to

Are these rates different? As far as I know they are not much different,
and it is better to use official way. Am I wrong? If I am correct me please,
it is important for me, too.

Of course if you mean really "true" rate, it will be about 30 rubles/dollar or
so.

Yury
From: dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re:  Kommunism in St.Petersburg
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:17:31 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

>From: Mark Markish x2799 <mmarkish@FEDS46.Prime.COM>

>| >From: kilborn4950@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU
>|
>| >I would recommend <being in St.Petersburg - D.> walkiing when
>| >convenient, and jumping on the bus without paying when it isn't.
>|
>| Oops, I thought it was just an old commie-era custom, which is
>| dying out now with it. It turns out, it becomes international
>| standard!? Great! I was always doing the same. DA ZDRAVSTVUET
>| KOMMUNIZM, SVETLOE BUDUSHCHEE VSEGO CHELOVECHESTVA.

>Didn't you know? Burzhui is in love with Comminism,
>as long as it is profitable for him.


Zajtsem xochet v`exat' v svetloe budushchee?!!

NE VYJDET!!!
From: dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:12:14 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

>Some people, especially those who are from those areas hope to get
>it back, some says it is just an economical burden and what we do
>for those 300 000 russian livien there now.
>However some Finns have bought back their old houses over in Karelia,
>I have met one personally. I just red in a newspapaer where a former
>Viipuri born lady had rented a flat in Viipuri for herself.
>There are some who have rented land there and cultivate potatos
>for Russian market...
>Personally it is for me the same if it is and stay over there...
>for ever...you know the russians have so little land, so why not let those
>poor people to have that...they shame the situation however
>especially when from a Finnish side arrives an old lady to their
>garden and shows pictures where she as a little girl were
>playing on "their" garden...there are many such cases...
>in our days now when the borders are more open...

No, it doesn't have to be forever. The question is not the land,
the question is people who live on the land. If finns come back,
buy houses and settle there, it's perfectly fine. If they'll
eventually become a majority there, and will peacefully decide
to join with rest of Finland, it's perfectly fine too. So, Jarmo,
don't wait, go ahead! Come and settle! Welcome to Karelia!
From: avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: It's test
Date: 23 Aug 1992 17:48:20 -0400
Organization: Berkeley Software Design
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Keywords: test

In article <AACppbg8x6@janus.chimkent.su> sam@janus.chimkent.su writes:
>-- 
>Sam@janus.chimkent.su ( Yuri )      
>    Post Box 7 (seven)                       - Mobilis in mobile - 
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       Chimkent-38                          
	^^^^^^^^^^^

Boy, IS it where the nuclear warheads gets assembled? :-) :-) :-)

--vadim
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Stenka Razin
Date: 28 Aug 1992 18:46:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug28.131448.17705@watson.ibm.com> galina@watson.ibm.com (Galina Kofman)_ writes:
>
>Iz-za ostrova na strezhen',  <what is strezhen'?>

Mainstream.

Yury

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com (Mike Moroney)
Subject: Re: Russian (and ex-Soviet) calendar
Reply-To: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com (Mike Moroney)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:28:47 GMT


I heard the Soviet government itself used a calendar that was the same as
the Gregorian calendar except in addition to the Gregorian leap year rules
for years divisible by 4/100/400 they had an additional rule that years
divisible by 4000 were not leap years, and was slightly more accurate than
the Gregorian calendar without this rule.

Any truth to this?

(note this has nothing to do with the church calendar where century years
mod 9 = 2 or 6 is a leap year else not.  Not that any of this matters yet,
as the church calendar is the same as the Gregorian calendar until 2800,
the Soviet calendar (if it exists) is the same as the Gregorian until 4000)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Currency exchange in Moscow
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:31:07 GMT

In article <Bu0J5r.69K@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pmaggs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter B. Maggs) writes:
>brekshyn@shearson.com (Bohdan Rekshynskyj) writes:
>
>>Greetings,
>
>>   I have a friend who is traveling to Moscow.  Could someone please advise me how
>>to change currency there?  I don't want the "official" rate for American dollars,
>>but rather the "true" rate.  Also, what things should one watch out for, i.e.
>>dangerous dealers, unscrupulous (sic) people, et cetera?  Please feel free to
>>post me e-mail.  Thank you!
>The rate that banks give is only about 5% less than the rate blackmarketeers
>give.  So, unless changing as a favor for a trusted friend, stick to the
>banks and steer clear of the Mafia.
>
>
>
>


  Hmm, I think it's better and more common to do it on the street. I doubt
anything bad would come of it. I think the term "mafia" has a more sinister
meaning in the west ;->.

                                                                   adam
From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: DEMOCRATIC Estonia
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:36:12 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki



I am afraid that the discussion got an unhappy direction, when one
started to argue whether the Estonians have the right of expelling
the Russian-speaking population. 

Of course, they do not, and, fortunately, they are not doing it!

The Estonian law on citizenship gave direct access to citizenship to
the descendants of the citizens of Estonian republic (1918-1940) that was 
unjustly (I suppose no one nowadays accepts this Stalinist Anschluss?)
occupied by the Soviet Union. Some percentage of them are of Russian/
Ukrainian etc. origin - there is no "ethnic" legislation of citizenship
in Estonia! To naturalize automatically all settlers brought to country 
by the stalinist rule would have equalled accepting the Stalin-Brezhnev
policy of liquidating the Estonian nation.

But everyone that has been dwelling two (I must check that?) years in 
Estonia can apply to citizenship. Some knowledge of Estonian is also
required.

To 15.6. 1992 there were about only five thousand Russian-speakers'
applications for citizenship, which I find very unfortunate.
But the Russian-speaking population (600.0000) must make the decision 
whether to apply for Russian/Ukrainian/etc./ or Estonian citizenship!
So far, the most seem not to have decided! If they choose Russian
citizenship, they are still able to live and work in Estonian republic
in the same manner as 300.000 Finns do in Sweden!

During this summer, Estonia has proved itself to be the most progressive
part of the former IMPERIUM: Estonia has established a (almost ultra-)
democratic constitution and introduced the new hard Estonian currency,
the kroon (1 DM equals 8 kroons, the first hard currency in the rouble
empire). If the gallant political and economic reform in Estonia will 
be succesful, I would not wonder that even the majority
of Russian-speaking population might be tempted to choose the
Estonian citizenship, after all! Thumbs up! :-)

But the economic and political recovery of Estonia requires also 
some kind of conciliation with both sides: Estonians and Russians. 
For the start, it should be clear that Estonia is not (and will not be)
chasing the Russian-speaking population away with bayonettes!

Our common aim:
Peace, democracy, mutual trust and prosperity around the Gulf of Finland!

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tapani Hietaniemi, University of Helsinki (50 km from the Estonian border)
From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Stenka Razin
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:56:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


In article <1992Aug28.131448.17705@watson.ibm.com>, galina@watson.ibm.com_ (Galina Kofman) writes:
|> In  <1992Aug27.172043.4771@ccd.harris.com>  jsh@controls.ccd.harris.com (Joe Hoff) writes:
|> Iz-za ostrova na strezhen',  <what is strezhen'?>
|> Na prostor rechnoj volny

Eto mne napominaet chudny mul'tik ( I forgot its name ) gde eta pes'nya
( po krayney mere chto-to s takoy zhe melodiey i pohozhimi slovami ) poetsya.
"Pinzhak s karmanami" eto ottuda.
From: ftsam@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Stenka Razin
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:13:04 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <1992Aug28.131448.17705@watson.ibm.com>, galina@watson.ibm.com_
 (Galina Kofman) writes:> 

> Iz-za ostrova na strezhen',  <what is strezhen'?>
Main river's flow



> Tolko noch s nej provozhalsya  <or is it proyakshalsja?>
Definitely the first version, though I'm not sure about spelling 
 


> <V zharkie usta lobzaet>  (I can't remember, just made it up)
Seems to me, originally it was    ODNIM VZMAHOM PODNIMAET



> V nabezhavshuju volnu.
Test for native speakers: Who is the author of variant  V NADLEZHASHUJU VOLNY ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.polish
From: tomas_e@LINK.Physchem.KTH.SE (Tomas Eriksson)
Subject: Re: Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad
Reply-To: tomas_e@LINK.Physchem.KTH.SE
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:12:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.095036.3237@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
>Viipuri is in Swedish Vyborg. IN Finnish Viipuri is Viipuri.
                       ^^^^^^
No, Viborg is V*i*borg in Swedish. In Finnish Viborg is Viipuri. :-)
It seems that Jarmo Ryyti wasn't forced to learn enough Swedish in
school... :-> (evil grin)

Tomas
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tomas Eriksson                                          tomas_e@physchem.kth.se
            Surface Force Group, Department of Physical Chemistry,
               Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: pmaggs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter B. Maggs)
Subject: Re: St. Petersburg, HELP !!!***!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:59:18 GMT

On the question of coping with Metro and bus tickets for foreigners
in Russia -- there is a simple answer.  For under a dollar, well
under a dollar you can buy a 10 day pass at any subway station
that is good on all forms of transport.  If you don't know how
to do it just ask a Russian to buy it for you.  Then you can
get into the subway by waving it at a guard.  If a ticket 
inspector boards your bus you can just wave your pass.
Peter Maggs                  pmaggs@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
From: mmarkish@FEDS46.PRIME.COM (Mark Markish x2799)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Armand and Benjamin
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:02:43 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

Dr. Armand Hammer has recently been mentioned on the newsgroup;
well, today is the right time to commemorate him.

70 years ago, on the 13/26 of August, 1922, Metropolitan Benjamin of
Petrograd faced the firing squad, convicted of hindering the efforts
which Doc Hammer was such an eager and successfil participant of:
the confiscation of Church valuables and selling them abroad.

As comrade Lenin said with this regard, "the more reactionary clergy
we can put to death under this pretext, the better". This advise was
taken to the heart by CheKa: during 1922, according to the published
data only, about 2600 clergymen, 2000 monks, and 3600 nuns were executed.

The detailed account of this campaign, as far as I remember, has been
given by Solzhenitsyn, among other authors.
From: vadik@cs.umd.edu (Vadim Maslov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Mother of All Eastern European Lists (v. 3.1)
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:16:21 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <BtIpEz.EqB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmaggs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter B. Maggs) writes:
>Many  thanks for the "Mother of All Eastern European Lists"
>-- but a question.  I signed up for a couple of the Relcom
>news groups and immediately started getting interesting
>email.  BUT -- the Russian part comes out as crazy characters
>on my IBM vmd mainframe where I get my email -- presumably 
>the top bit that is used for Russian is garbled in transmission
>or is IBMized into and out of EBCDIC.  Does anyone know the
>secret of decoding into normal Russian text that I could read
>into RELCOM or ChiWriter?
>peter maggs                        pmaggs@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu

As a last resort, you may want to use the next program which
converts KOI-8 to ASCII. It uses transliteration of Russian letters
by their English counterparts.

I think you can use `russian-speaking' editor directly on this
text, if it understands KOI-8. I here have bigger problem --
some son of a bitch cuts out 8th bit.
It was not the case in NYC.

Vadim Maslov.


#include <stdio.h>

/*
 * Russian to Ebglish translator
 */

char *rtol[] = {
"yu", "a",  "b", "c",  "d", "e",   "f",  "g",
"h",  "i",  "i", "k",  "l", "m",   "n",  "o",
"p",  "ya", "r", "s",  "t", "u",   "zh", "v",
"'",  "y",  "z", "sh", "e", "sch", "ch", "`"
};

char *RtoL[] = {
"YU", "A",  "B", "C",  "D", "E",   "F",  "G",
"H",  "I",  "I", "K",  "L", "M",   "N",  "O",
"P",  "YA", "R", "S",  "T", "U",   "ZH", "V",
"'",  "Y",  "Z", "SH", "E", "SCH", "CH", "`"
};

main() {
  int c;
  while((c=getchar())!=EOF) {
    if(c>=0x80+'@' && c<=0x80+'_') {
      printf(rtol[c-0x80-'@']);
    } else if(c>=0x80+'`' && c<=0x80+0x7f) {
      printf(RtoL[c-0x80-'`']);
    } else {
      putchar(c);
    }
  }
}
-- 

Vadim Maslov,	Phones: (301) 405-2726, (301) 474-3473
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: qasama@lektroid.WPI.EDU (John Grossi)
Subject: Re: E-mail help needed
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:50:00 GMT

In article <95295@bu.edu> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>Does anybody have any idea how to send mail to a person at "logen.msk.su"? My
>mail bounced back.

As far as I know the .su suffix has now been replaced by ones for the seperate
republics. I included them as well as a few others (It may look like the 
complete list but is not) because I figure they may help someone.
^L

Armenia      	-AM Azerbaijan   	-AZ Belarus      	-BY
Georgia      	-GE Kazakhstan   	-KZ Kyrgyzstan   	-KG
Moldova      	-MD Russia       	-RU Tajikistan   	-TJ
Turkmenistan 	-TM Ukraine      	-UA Uzbekistan   	-UZ
Estonia      	-EE Latvia       	-LV Lithuania    	-LT

Croatia      	-HR Slovenia     	-SI 
Bosnia-Hercegovna -?? (I have not seen it, but if anyone has it please e-mail me)

UK		-UK Germany		-DE Sweden		-SE
Finland		-FI Sierra Leone	-SL Italy		-IT
Canada		-CA Japan		-JP New Zealand		-NZ
Isreal		-IL Korea	     	-KR Norway		-NO
France		-FR Denmark	        -DK Netherlands     	-NL
Ireland         -IE Egypt		-EG Austria		-AT
Switzerland	-CH Hungary		-HU Hong Kong		-HK
Malayasia	-MY Kuwait		-KW Tunisia		-TN
Thailand	-TH South Africa	-ZA Singapore       	-SG
Belgium         -BE Greece		-GR Bulgaria		-BG
Mexico		-MX Poland		-PL Spain		-ES
Namibia		-NA Colombia		-CO Sri Lanka		-LK
Argentina	-AR India		-IN Pakistan		-PK
Chile 		-CL Venezula		-VE Ecuador		-EC
Taiwan		-TW Belize		-BZ Brazil		-BR
Bolivia		-BO Peru		-PE Puerto Rico		-PR
Paraguay	-PY Albania		-AL Iceland		-IS
Bahamas		-BS St. Kitts & Nevis 	-KN Dominican Republic 	-DO
Guatemala	-GT Trinidad & Tobago	-TT Nicaruagua		-NI
Costa Rica	-CR Turkey		-TR Portugual		-PT
United States	-US Phillipines		-PH

Czechoslavakia	-KP (soon to go)

This list is as accurate as possible, but you are encouraged to check things
out for yourself.

-JOHN









-- 
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qasama@wpi.wpi.edu  / V   V OOOO TTTTT EEEE\ Always store beer in a dark place.
Worcester Polytech /_ _V V  O  O   T   EEE  \__ Moderation is for monks.
God save Lazurus Long!/ v   OOOO   T   EEEE    \ Women need no excuse.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky)
Subject: Re: Stenka Razin
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:46:18 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.1 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <9208282038.AA06102@feds46.Prime.COM>  mmarkish@FEDS46.PRIME.COM
(Mark Markish x2799) writes:
> Q & A :
>
> > Tolko noch s nej provozhalsya  <or is it proyakshalsja?>
>
> `Provozzhalsia', to be more precise.

I claim ignorance here (mine, of course). What's 'Provozzhalsia' ?
Thank you in advance.
Oleg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: sam@janus.chimkent.su (Yuri)
Subject: Nuclear warheads on sale.(Was Re:It's test)
Reply-To: sam@janus.chimkent.su
Organization: Janus Ltd,XSU
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 06:49:00 +0300

>   >>       Chimkent-38
>   >        ^^^^^^^^^^^
>   >
>   >Boy, IS it where the nuclear warheads gets assembled? :-) :-) :-)
>   >
>   >--vadim
>
>   No, that's Chimkent-U235
>
>   -Mka
Gentlemen:
It's where the warheads are sold at a garage sale...
uncle Sam

-- 
Sam@janus.chimkent.su ( Yuri )      
    Post Box 7 (seven)                       - Mobilis in mobile - 
       Chimkent-38                          
          486038 ex USSR               


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: pmaggs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter B. Maggs)
Subject: Re: Currency exchange in Moscow
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:27:26 GMT
Keywords: Money

brekshyn@shearson.com (Bohdan Rekshynskyj) writes:

>Greetings,

>   I have a friend who is traveling to Moscow.  Could someone please advise me how
>to change currency there?  I don't want the "official" rate for American dollars,
>but rather the "true" rate.  Also, what things should one watch out for, i.e.
>dangerous dealers, unscrupulous (sic) people, et cetera?  Please feel free to
>post me e-mail.  Thank you!
The rate that banks give is only about 5% less than the rate blackmarketeers
give.  So, unless changing as a favor for a trusted friend, stick to the
banks and steer clear of the Mafia.





>=====================================================================
> 
>Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj
> 
>Consultant                     
> 
>Compuserve:  72576,1754


>                              
>All promulgations are my own.  No corporate entity has authorization
>to represent me.
> 
>Imprimatur.						Nihil obstat.
> 
>=====================================================================

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: qasama@banach.WPI.EDU (John Grossi)
Subject: Re: Re: "democratic" Estonia
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:20:11 GMT

In article <ADa9keg406@sovet.cntc.dubna.su> fed@sovet.cntc.dubna.su writes:
[deleted]                                                        ^^
I though the .su domain no longer existed and had been replaced?
WHat is up with this
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
qasama@wpi.wpi.edu  / V   V OOOO TTTTT EEEE\ Always store beer in a dark place.
Worcester Polytech /_ _V V  O  O   T   EEE  \__ Moderation is for monks.
God save Lazurus Long!/ v   OOOO   T   EEEE    \ Women need no excuse.
From: vadim@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Stenka Razin
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:17:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohstpy.13544.2a9e275c

In article <94852@bu.edu>, sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn) writes:
> In article <1992Aug28.131448.17705@watson.ibm.com>, galina@watson.ibm.com_ (Galina Kofman) writes:
> |> In  <1992Aug27.172043.4771@ccd.harris.com>  jsh@controls.ccd.harris.com (Joe Hoff) writes:
> |> Iz-za ostrova na strezhen',  <what is strezhen'?>
> |> Na prostor rechnoj volny
> 
> Eto mne napominaet chudny mul'tik ( I forgot its name ) gde eta pes'nya
> ( po krayney mere chto-to s takoy zhe melodiey i pohozhimi slovami ) poetsya.
> "Pinzhak s karmanami" eto ottuda.
   
  Da-a-a. Eh, Van'ka to nas na kaku gangrenu promenyal. (Ottuda zhe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet