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From: Edwardl@freddyk.uucp (Ed Langenback)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: SOME MORE CB QUESTIONS
Keywords: 25:1 mismatch, two inches
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 14:33:32 CDT
Distribution: usa
Summary: sounds like a paperwieght
Organization: Nightmares R Us

johnw@bluemoon.rn.com (John L. Wilkerson Jr.) says:
>billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>
>> jbs@rti.rti.org writes:
>> : 
>> : On a somewhat related note, I have heard that many CBs are designed with a
>> : circuit that decreases output power as SWR increases, with the aim of
>> : protecting the output stage from damage. Anyone know if this is true?
>> 
> 
>    Look in the owner's manual..... My Uniden Grant's book sez over 2.0 
>could cook it.
> 
>     A lot of Cobra CBs say in the book that the output transistors are 
>protected up to a 25:1 mismatch.     Best bet is to look in the manual 
>first to see what the deal is.
> 
 well, they may be protected against a 25:1 mismatch, but i imagine that
any radio that had /that/ high of a mismatch would have about a two inch
maximum effective transmit range, and not much recieve either.

"He's dead Jim."
"You get his wallet, I'll get his tricorder."

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From: jgt10@uts.amdahl.com (John G. Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: NJ local Terms
Keywords: NJ terms
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:37:39 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

jbs@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.b.skiendziel) writes:
>	Being fairly new to the cb world , I've encountered several
>	local terms (being New Jersey Terms).  I was wondering if
>	someone else could add to/correct this list of "Parkway Terms"
>	or know of similar terms for the other major highways in NJ.

>	Garden State Parkway TERMS
>	
>		Radar alley - South of the Homdel exit around Red Bank
>		Music Box - Garden State Art Center??
>		Over the Top - Raritan River Bridge?
>		Piggy Bank - Raritan Toll Plaza

Piggy Bank refers to all toll plazas, not just the Raritan one.

Enjoy! JGT
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Look What Showed Up in *MY* Mailbox!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:43:15 GMT

cobra@jab.tucson.az.us (Cobra) writes:

... bunch of stuff sent to cobra by a foul-mouthed KB5OWZ.

>:         You are an idiot---Therefore...
>:         
>:                                 KISS MY ASS!!!
>:  
>:         (...Phantom...KB5OWZ (Tech+...which is better than what YOU'VE
>: got!......))
>: ----
>: Internet:  phantom@pro-haven.cts.com      Tiffany Bloxom
>: UUCP:      crash!pro-haven!phantom

Tech+ huh? Big deal - so you managed to get to 5 wpm. I know a couple of
6 year olds who did the same thing. As far as being a Tech - with the 
question and answer pool all being published, anyone who can do a little
memorization can pass the tests - no technical knowledge at all is necessary.

Now then, if you were an Extra Class licensee or an "Elmer", then maybe I,
and others, would be impressed. All you have done so far is convince us that
you seem to act very infantile. Just because you can dig out a book and
quote some information does not mean that you know how to apply it.  In the
case in point, the 50Mhz data is definitely more applicable than the data
for 1 Mhz - as far as a CBr is concerned. 

Thanks a lot Tiffany, for showing that even some hams can appear to be    
blooming idiots. Some even manage without much effort. Now, if you cannot
be nice, why don't you just go away and stop giving people a bad impression
of Amateur Radio?

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: jbs@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.b.skiendziel)
Subject: NJ local Terms
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:11:32 GMT
Keywords: NJ terms




	Being fairly new to the cb world , I've encountered several
	local terms (being New Jersey Terms).  I was wondering if
	someone else could add to/correct this list of "Parkway Terms"
	or know of similar terms for the other major highways in NJ.

	Garden State Parkway TERMS

	
		Radar alley - South of the Homdel exit around Red Bank

		Music Box - Garden State Art Center??

		Over the Top - Raritan River Bridge?

		Piggy Bank - Raritan Toll Plaza

	Thanks in advance --- JBS


>>>>>>DISCLAIMER - The opinions express by no means represent those of my
			employer.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: elesatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eric LeSatz)
Subject: Re: Some More CB Questions
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 23:54:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.210535.15932@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>Nope. It is less than a dB of loss. It would be totally unnoticable. Even a
>loss of half the power is barely noticable by very careful listening. That is
>a loss of 3 dB. You need a loss on the order of 10 dB to have a easily
>noticeable loss in signal level - that would mean that you only had about
>1/2 watt left out of 4. 

I have to disagree. Maybe you are talking about different dB than I
am, but when the channels are extremely quiet I have talked to many
people which only register 1-2 dB on my meter. 1 dB is almost
impossible to make out, 2 you can usally do pretty well as long as
nobody walks on you. A loss of 3 dB would be extremely poor
performance. I find static in signals and 6, but 9 is crystal clear..

Just my $.02

Eric
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: kh@sei.cmu.edu (Kurt Haverstock)
Subject: Re: NICE CARS & CB'S
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:09:51 GMT

In article Re: NICE CARS & CB'S of Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:54:40 GMT billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:


>: There were plenty of these on the market in the mid '70s, all type approved.
>: I don't know if there's been enough of a demand since then to make it
>: worth anybody's while to manufacture them.
>: 
>:   -joe
>
>Shows the gap in my purchasing. The ones I bought in the late 60s and early
>70s did not have the combined features. Nor did those I saw in the latter
>part of the 70s.  I have never seen such a set - and I spent a number of
>years in the mid 70s working in a radio shop repairing rigs. Maybe they just
>were not popular here in Oregon.
>
>Bill


With the decline in CB popularity the, 'all-in-one' CB/AM/FM/Cassette
units have disappeared.  They were never targeted for the real enthusiast,
though, so you may not have seen them much if you were involved in serious
repair work. They did exist, though...I remember a friend of mine bought one
because he didn't want to clutter the under-dash of his '69 Bird.
It may have looked good, but it didn't perform well at all.

I checked J.C. Whitney and they no longer carry them...I guess they 
*really* must be out of production:-)


Kurt
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Some More CB Questions
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:05:35 GMT

fisher2557@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
: 
: A friend of mine has a high quality wattmeter, and used it to measure the
: loss in 100 ft of that cheap junk.  He lost almost 3/4 of a watt in just fifty
: feet.  When you're only putting out four watts, 3/4 of a watt can sure make a
: difference!

Nope. It is less than a dB of loss. It would be totally unnoticable. Even a
loss of half the power is barely noticable by very careful listening. That is
a loss of 3 dB. You need a loss on the order of 10 dB to have a easily
noticeable loss in signal level - that would mean that you only had about
1/2 watt left out of 4. 

Bill
From: fisher2557@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: Some More CB Questions
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:23:53 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug26.210535.15932@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
> fisher2557@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> : 
> : A friend of mine has a high quality wattmeter, and used it to measure the
> : loss in 100 ft of that cheap junk.  He lost almost 3/4 of a watt in just fifty
> : feet.  When you're only putting out four watts, 3/4 of a watt can sure make a
> : difference!
> 
> Nope. It is less than a dB of loss. It would be totally unnoticable. Even a
> loss of half the power is barely noticable by very careful listening. That is
> a loss of 3 dB. You need a loss on the order of 10 dB to have a easily
> noticeable loss in signal level - that would mean that you only had about
> 1/2 watt left out of 4. 
> 
> Bill

Agreed.  <1 db is not noticable TO THE EAR, but when your signal starts to drop
the millivolts in the reciever's antennae below critical, your signal starts to
go away.  At these borderline areas, the rcvr is going to translate that .9 db
loss to several dbs or more.  I used to talk 20+ miles on a little 'ol Tomcat
23 on a homemade groundplane 10' up in a tree, (THROUGH two cities) and I'm
quite sure 3/4 of a watt makes a difference.  I strung some foam and had MANY
complements from the people on the borderline of my range.  I did not expect
anyone to notice -- I was looking for a slight gain in reception, which I got,
but I sure did not expect the flowers from everybody else.  No one in town
noticed, though, but then again, it wasn't the people hitting me with 5 s-units
that I needed to improve on, anyway.  I don't know all the theory involved, but
I know what I hear on my speaker.
-- 

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From: jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: Some More CB Questions
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:56:56 EDT

fisher2557@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Agreed. <1 db is not noticable TO THE EAR, but when your signal starts to drop
>the millivolts in the reciever's antennae below critical, your signal starts
>to go away.

This too is true; a little more power can inch your local range out a little
bit and possibly open up a squelch that was formerly closed to you :-); those
of us used to intercontinental contacts sometimes overlook the desire to push
local range from 50 to 51 miles :-).  Especially since most hams (on HF anyway)
wouldn't know what to do with a squelch if they had one :-).

By the way, if your receiver requires "millivolts" to hear a signal, I'd get
it fixed; .5 microvolts is a much more reasonable minimum-discernable-signal
level ;-).

> At these borderline areas, the rcvr is going to translate that .9 db
>loss to several dbs or more.

Well, no, it isn't going to do that, but it can make the difference between
opening a squelch and not doing so.  Someone who runs with the squelch open
who can't hear you at one power level isn't terribly likely to make out what
you're saying with 1dB more power, though.

John, WB7EEL
From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: Linear
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:27:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: rinhp750.VBREAULT.92Sep3142725
Organization: General Motors Research Labs
In-reply-to: mt615s1075@instem.UUCP's message of 2 Sep 92 23:41:11 GMT

In article <mt615s1075.066i@instem.UUCP> mt615s1075@instem.UUCP (Mark Trinkwalder) writes:

	I'm looking for someone in the Michigan area, preferably Macomb
   County who has a Linear that they would like to sell for a reasonable
   price, I'm looking for something between 100-200 watts.

Mark, you'll soon find yourself flamed quite severly by asking for
an amplifier in this newsgroup.  Folks will point out that they 
are illegal, frequently poorly engineered and quite often interfere
with communications on frequencies far removed from where you intend
to operate.  Some folks may offer alternatives like better antenna
systems, better receivers or amateur radio.  Some may simply insult
you.

You probably should have read the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
that is posted monthly to this newsgroup before asking your question.
You would then have known all the above and more.

Good luck....  and try to keep your cool while being roasted.

-val-

--

Val Breault - vbreault@gmr.com - N8OEF
General Motors Research and Environmental Staff.
The opinions expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect 
those of the GMRES or the General Motors Corporation.
 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: jbs@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: NICE CARS & CB'S
Organization: Joe's Bar and Grill
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:54:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.165440.849@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
<: 
<: >:   Are there any decent combo CB/AM/FM/etc sets?
<: >
<Shows the gap in my purchasing. The ones I bought in the late 60s and early
<70s did not have the combined features. Nor did those I saw in the latter
<part of the 70s.  I have never seen such a set - and I spent a number of
<years in the mid 70s working in a radio shop repairing rigs. Maybe they just
<were not popular here in Oregon.

I remember seeing them in catalogs under names like Pioneer and Kraco. I
think I remember a GE set, too, but don't quote me on that.
A friend of a friend has one in a late-80's model Cadillac, and it's got a
fancy Cadillac emblem on the mike. I wonder who makes them for Cadillac...

  -joe
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: NICE CARS & CB'S
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:10:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

mazz+@andrew.cmu.edu ("Joseph D. Mazza") writes:

: I've got a nice car and want to install CB that works well but is also
: small and unobtrusive.  The same goes for the antenna.  I'm more
: concerned with reception than I am with transmission, although I'd like
: to be able to transmit in a pinch.  

For reception, the larger the antenna, the better. This is a gross
generalization, but is a good aproximation.

I have never used an AM/FM/CB antenna. I have no idea how well they work.
They would be the most unobtrusive.

: I've read the FAQ posts and didn't find all the answers, so here are
: some specific questions that someone out there may be able to help me
: with.
: 
:   What is considered the "Cadillac" of CB's?

Who cares? What you want is something small that works well. The cadillac
is likely to be large and have 50 million bells and whistles - most of which
you will use about once a decade or so.

:   Do the small CB's perform as well as the larger ones, or do they just
: have fewer whistles and bells?  

I am sure the very quite a bit, with size having little to do with
performance. Generally, a larger case allows more room for heavier
duty components - although the extra space is often wasted.

:   Are the all-in-the-mike sets any good?  

Only the controls are in the mike. The bulk of the radio is just hidden
out of sight.  I would not want a speaker in the mike, although to might
be handy for marginal signals.

:   Are there any decent combo CB/AM/FM/etc sets?

Probably not. The sets have to be type approved by the FCC. It would be
hard to get approval for such a combined set.

:   Are the Cellular lookalike (althouth a bit larger) CB antennas any good?

Generally, no better than any other CB antenna that size. Also, by mounting
it on the window, you lose radiation efficiency.  If you want to look like
a yuppie - get a cellular phone and a Beemer.

:   Are there any _dedicated_ CB antennas made to look like radio
: antennas?  (My radio antenna is embedded in the rear window so I could
: add an external antenna which would _look_ like it was the radio
: antenna, but which could be dedicated to CB.)

Yes, I don't know how well they work.

Bill
From: bphdarcy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SJ Roc D'Arcy, MBP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: Linear
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:39:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep3.230328.10268@mercury.cair.du.edu>, elesatz@cassandra.cair.du.edu (Eric LeSatz) writes...

> 
>Better yet, get to know a trucker...

Nah, they have work to do for a living.  Talk to one of the people 
near me who has never worked a day in their life and run their linears
all day and all night.  I know lots of truck drivers, most don't
really care all that much about them.

Now they have added one better.  Noise generators.  Wonderfull how a
perfect sin wave can bleed over six channels each way. 

Where is the FCC when you need them?

SJRD
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: sontakke@helix.enet.dec.com (Vikas Sontakke)
Subject: Re: SHO Engine for Probe GT - Why Not?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:17:57 GMT


It will be probably faster than the Mustang 5.0, and there is absolutely no way
in the hell Ford will allow that.

Vikas Sontakke		Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA.
Internet:		sontakke@helix.enet.dec.com
    uucp:		{decvax,ucbvax,allegra}!decwrl!helix.enet!sontakke
			sontakke%helix.enet@decwrl.dec.com
From: alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (Amy Young Leith)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: These weird "Twilight Zone" lights under cars....
Keywords: They're really weird....
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:56:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <1992Aug25.214937.15484@metter.fmpmis.metter.com> virgo@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (curious vIRgO) writes:
>
>The past few weeknights,as I happily cruise the streets of Takoma Park,MD,
>I've noticed quite a few cars sporting a neon glow underneath theier chassis.
>Is saw a Mustang GT with green neon, a white Laser RS Turbo with a lavender
>haze neon,and an Audi 5000 happily rolling along while all the wile it's `
>underbelly diffused a bright pink light....

It's actual neon.  You can purchase tubes in varying lengths, from 2-4
feet, and the transformer and have them installed. 

>Personally, as a fad, it has some use. YOU CAN NEVER SAY "I didn't see it
>coming in the dark.."when you come upon it(and hit it...hopefully not!)
>What are these new creations called,these under-the-chassis lights?? Where
>do you get 'em?? What's the cost????
>
>The curious virgo wants to know....

Here in Indiana they are covered in some law, and in hard terms,
illegal.  People still have them, however, and my husband works for a
place that does the cellular phone/car stereo/detailing and every
other idea for the car thing.  They can get the systems for varying
prices, beginning at about $300 retail price, installed. 

amy
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Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,misc.consumers,sci.environment,talk.environment
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: More conspiracy theories (was Re: Carburetors, gasoline )
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:58:50

It is not always so bad as John De Armond says with regard to companies
listening to inventors.  Out of 10 companies, I once tried to sell an
invention to, 8 agreed to sign non-disclosure agreements and had a
representative listen.  Alas, none bought the invention.  A lawyer
for the first company we talked to drew up the agreement, and all
the others went for the same non-disclosure agreement.  I had a
very respected businessman as a partner in the matter, however.

--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: timp@techmpc.csg.gss.mot.com (Tim Palka)
Subject: Re: ECLIPSE PERFORMANCE PACKA
Organization: Motorola Cellular Subscriber Group MIS
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:40:32 GMT

In article <8872.74.uupcb@cutting.hou.tx.us> erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim)  writes:
>
>  An HKS kit in an Eclipse or Talon WILL make a hell of a difference as
>I have raced a couple with HKS modifications.  They are MUCH faster than
>stock, even just the exhaust will make a significant difference and
>provide for a much better sound.
>
>Erich Lim
>  Internet add:   erich.lim&cutting.hou.tx.us
>

I have a 1990 Eagle Talon (NON Turbo) and cant seem to find upgrades like this
any where, They all seem to be for the turbo or AWD. Will any of these upgrades
work on a non turbo 16 valve.   


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling)
Subject: Re: Locking Lug Nuts & Broken Key: Suggestions?
Keywords: locking lug nuts, wheels
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:54:25 GMT

I had to take some of my own medicine the other day.  I had taken the
dashboard out of my '66 Fury to replace the heater core (not a fun
thing), which meant that the contents of the glove compartment,
including the wheel-lock key, was strewn about the back seat.  When the
time came to remove the wheels to service the brakes, I could not find
the key.  I even removed the back seat to see if it had fallen down
there, but the key was not to be found.

Fortunately, the previous owner who installed the wheels and locking
lug nuts had bought a set of four right-hand threaded lugs, but (as
every mopar enthusiast knows), the '66 Fury and other models around
that vintage have reverse-threaded wheel studs on the driver's side.
I say this is fortunate because only two of the wheels had locks.

These locks were much easier to take off with a socket and hammer than
the ones on my Challenger, because the ends of the nuts taper off
toward the end where the key goes; it was almost faster to remove them
this way than to use the key!!  I don't know what brand these are, but
I would strongly recommend against buying a set of wheel locks that
don't at least maintain the same diameter all the way to the end of the
nut, which makes it much harder to establish a good grip with a 12-pt
socket.

Needless to say, *those* useless things aren't on my car anymore.  I
should probably buy a good set sometime soon, though...
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                 PictureTel, but they ought to be!