From: THESHADO@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU (The Shadow)
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Subject: Re: Info ID
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:51:00 GMT
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Annette says:

>Yes, Kim & Kirk, BUT - didn't you give bios when you joined the List?
>You must have labeled yourselves then, & current List members at that
>time would know your info; new List members would not.

Yes, I gave a bio when I subbed to the list.  If the information really
concerns you, or anyone else, you should have taken note of it then.  If
you weren't around then, it really isn;t too hard to pay attention to a
person's posts -- a lot of the same information presented in a bio crops
up now and again in ordinary discussional (discussional?  is that a word?)
posts.  The vast majority of people on this list who regularaly contribute
to discussions were here before I subbed.  I never saw their bios, but I
seem to know some bio-related info about most, including hearing status.
I am just opposed to the idea of someone thinking it is a good and
beneficial thing to reitterate my hearing impairment or lack thereof in
every post I make.  The need to know that information should rank far
below the perspectives and informational content of the post itself.

>                                                        I also think
>there's a vast difference between knowing the hearing status on DEAF-L
>or knowing if the member's blind, or has cerebral palsy (as Kirk
>put it).  I do understand the reluctance & uneasiness some might
>feel about the situation, although I imagine most Deaf members on
>the List would not just put a D, but also, PROUD OF IT....

Hmmm...  Everyone should be proud of who and what they are, or at the
very least amiable to their situation -- life is a lot more enjoyable
that way.  However, whether a person is d/Deaf and proud of it or
hearing and proud of it or hard-of-hearing and proud of it or any other
flavor of hearing impaired and proud of it should have, at best,
secondary or tertiary importance to the matter being discussed.  If a
person's physical condition is actually that important to a discussion,
I trust that the person involved has the necessary cognitive facilities
to recognize that fact and to deal with it accordingly.

>Don't suppose there's a way we could just pull someone's bio if we're
>really curious about a posting(?)

This is a listserv controlled mailing list.  One of the features of
listserv is the archiving of posts to a mailing list.  The odds are
pretty good that the posts to this list have been archived.  If so,
you could look up every post I ever sent to this list by searching
for my name, Kirk Haines, in the archives.  I believe the search format
is something like:

//Job echo = Yes
Database Search DD=Rules
//Rules DD *
Search Haines in Deaf-l
Index
Print

But you can get more information by sending a help command to the listserver,
then perhaps asking for information on the search command.



Kirk Haines
theshado@outlaw.uwyo.edu
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