HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Subject: Re: looking for an apt in J'lem
Organization: NetNews Readers Anonymous
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:13:08 GMT

In article <22013@venera.isi.edu> arens@ISI.EDU (Yigal Arens) writes:

>Just to remove any possible doubt, Gilo is in the occupied territories.
>--
>Yigal Arens   "He seems like an average type of man.  He's not, like, smart.
>USC/ISI        I'm not trying to bag on him or anything, but he has the same
>arens@isi.edu  mentality I have -- and I'm in the eighth grade."     Vanessa
>               Martinez, after VP Quayle's visit to her school-LA Times 5/21

Isn't USC in US-occupied Mexican territory?
-- 
Sam Saal      homxb!saal OR saal@homxb.att.com
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
From: murray.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: food
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:55:56 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

kazan@corner.wpb.fl.us (yy kazan) writes:

> From Y.Y. Kazen
>   
> SO>From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
> SO>Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
> SO>Subject: Re: Linguistic Purity (was Re: Hidden agenda?)
> SO>Date: 19 Jul 92 20:31:40 GMT
> SO>Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
> 
> SO>In article <9207161546.AA10855@ptms_dev.sbi.com>
> <gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com
> SO>(User - Don Gertler)> writes:
> SO>>hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
> SO>>>The Biblical Jews did not seem so concerned about linguistic purity.
> SO>>     ^^^^^^^^
> SO>>>Akademia is from Greek.  But so is gemmatria, and even Sanhedrin.
> SO>>>I believe all of these were used 2000 years ago in the Jewish state.
> 
> SO>>Find such an example from the Bible.
> 
> SO>>Mishnaic/Talmudic perhaps, but Biblical?
> 
> SO>Substantial parts of Daniel are in Aramaic, not just single words, but
> SO>entire chapters.  The word Sanhedrin must go back to the Maccabbean
> SO>       era, which makes it somewhat contemporary with Daniel.  I would not
> SO>expect Greek any earlier.
> 
> SO>The word Pharaoh is Egyptian, meaning "big house", and is a title.
> SO>There is a little more Egyptian in the Torah.
> 
> SO>There is also the question of the origin of "shatnez", which seems to
> SO>have no Hebrew connections.
> 
> Rashi explains that Shatnez is one word which comes from 3 words together -
> Shu-a, Tovi, Nuz. Woven in the form of Shesi Va-erev.
> 
> Also all the names of the Hebrew months are not 'original' Hebrew either.
> 
> --- 
>  * Origin: WORLDS LARGEST strictly JEWISH BBS - (718) 756-7201
> (1:278/610)
> 

Are there any other sources besides Rashi?
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Refrigerators In "Stranger Among Us" (SPOILER)
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:44:58 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul24.173728.25825@rs.com> horen@rs.com (Jonathan B. Horen) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.181630.26105@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> dsg@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (david.s.green) writes:
>>
>>I heard that one of the original suggestions for the title was:
>>
>>"Dances With Jews"
>
>No, no; that's:
>
>"Dances with Wolffs"

Get it right...

"Danced with THE Wolffs"


-- 
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From: dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll)
Subject: Re: the conversion can of worms, again (was Re: Anti-Orthodoxy ...)
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:52:58 GMT

In <1992Jul30.130347.11477@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
(samuel.saal) writes:

>In article <dfs.712351333@ro> dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll) writes:

>>Hear hear!  There is, however, one eminently practical problem: In
>>Israel, people who marry or convert in the C or R streams face many
>>problems.  If the Israeli govt. allowed C and R to perform marriages
>>and conversions in Israel, then most of the practical problems would
>>disappear, and everyone could live together more happily. :-)?

>No.  The problems would _increase_ as Reform (and probably
>Conservative) conversions are forced on the Orthodox.

No, not at all.  The Orthodox would of course be free not to accept
C or R conversions and marriages.  C and R conversions are already
accepted for the purposes of the Law of Return.  Having the state
reject C and R marriages amounts to religious intolerance on the
part of the Israeli government.

>That or the
>Orthodox would have to start demanding much more careful geneological
>record keeping.

That's true.  But why should they shift their burden onto a secular
government, 85% of whose constituents are not Orthodox?  Keeping track
of such things is not my problem, it's yours. :-)

--
                     |         | "Step up and shake the hand
David F. Skoll       | ||||||| |  Of someone you can't stand,
|_ _ _  __   __ _ __ |  \\V//  |  You can tolerate him if you try..."
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Subject: Re: Anti-Orthodoxy (was Re: O-C-R debate)
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:56:00 GMT

In article <LERNER.92Jul31132809@division.cs.columbia.edu> lerner@cs.columbia.edu (Michah Lerner) writes:
>In article <1992Jul31.164438.28347@midway.uchicago.edu> rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes:{

>>> >  What is this allegation of inhumane treatment of animals?  Are you
>>> >  talking about veal?  So why does the butcher have a sign telling
>>> >  people not to eat veal because of how it is cared for?   
>>>
>>> Veal; most chicken in the United States; virtually all milk in the United
>>> States. And a sign at the butcher's that suggests something is different
>>> from considering it one of the basic laws of kashruth.

>This is a complaint about the entire meat industry in the US.  I do not think
>we can solve it in one piece.  It is certainly not due to the Orthodox that
>animals do not have it a good as you'd like.

First of all, Micah, please edit the ninety lines of headers out of your
answers...

Second of all, it may not be due to the Orthodox (although the kosher
brands by Orthodox standards tend to be among the worst offenders, which
is why, unwilling to break either part of the law, a large number of
Reform Jews have turned completely vegetarian), but that wasn't the
question; the question was whether refraining from eating the products
of such treatment was required by Jewish law. The Orthodox don't believe
it is; most Reform positions I've read do. 

>/M

	-Nora
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: THE ORAL LAW.
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:48:11 GMT

In <1992Jul20.225944.625225@locus.com> hayim@locus.com (Hayim Hendeles) writes:

>No wonder then, that Orthodoxy looks upon all these movements with
>such hostility.

Orthodoxy does not have a viewpoint.  It's made up out of people, each
of whom have their own.  Some people who, when the pigeon-holers come
around, get shoved into the box with the big "O" on it, while not
agreeing with the folks in the other boxes or their leaders, do not
look with hostility on the other boxes.

>towards the movements themselves, which, with all its misguided
>sincerity, are causing more assimilation rather then less assimilation.
>And as we all know, assimilation is causing more damage to the Jewish
>nation than did Hitler.

Yeah, this sounds like "looking upon with hostility" alright.
-- 
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From: murray.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: O-C-R debate
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:57:30 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

> >> difference between the Orthodox of Jerusalem throwing stones at other
> >> Jews who travel on the Sabbath ...
> >>
>    This is simply not an accurate statement,  and should not be taken 
>    either as factual or condoned.  Have you actually SEEN this happen,
>    or do you repeat a nasty story which someone cannonized years ago?

The last issue of the Jerusalem Post had a story cataloging these 
problems and it turns out that there was an edict by the Chief Rabbis 
threatening excommunication for stone throwers.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: lerner@cs.columbia.edu (Michah Lerner)
Subject: Re: What is Jewish religion? (long...)
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
	<LERNER.92Jul16144011@division.cs.columbia.edu>
	<FAIGIN.92Jul16135135@soldan.aero.org>
	<1992Jul20.211358.27459@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>
	<FAIGIN.92Jul20150755@soldan.aero.org>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:22:39 GMT

>Based on the way that I've seen some Orthodox on this net behave, I surely
>wouldn't be attracted to a belief system that was that narrow-minded. 
 To the contrary,  Judaism does not proselytize,  so it does not modify
 its belief system to attract people.  Nor is Judaism narrow-minded despite
 the Reform characterization to the contrary. In fact the ways of the Torah 
 are pleasant and sweet.  This is why A Jew should learn the Torah from someone
 who understands it sweetnesss -- not someone who understands how to change it
 into something which seems sweet.

>Consider: Reform Jews do keep kosher, do observe the holidays, do (for the
>most part) circumcize their children, do observe Pesach, do eat Matzah and
>moror, do follow the ethical teachings, do observe Rosh Hashana and Yom
>Kippur, do teach their children in Judaism.
 Oh, you forgot Shabbos.  Are these ccircumcisions by a mohel with the 
 proper brochos, or by a surgeon?   Indeed many Reform do keep Yom Kippur,
 but the last Reform Rabbi I talked to told me he does NOT keep the fast
 days.  What about the 9th of Av?

>                                                                Reform is
>steadily moving towards tradition and practice. You've got Hebrew in the
>service; you got both a Reader's and a Mourner's Kaddish (you used to only
>have one).
 Proof perfect that Reform does not know where it is, and the searching Jew
 ought to be aware of this.

--
/M
From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: What is Jewish religion? (long...)
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:07:53 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: sutin@helios.ucsc.edu (Brian Sutin)

In article <14k5hgINNe7c@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, sutin@helios (Brian Sutin) writes:
>->No, because there's something wrong with cannibalism.

>Could you please explain why cannibalism would appear wrong to a cannibal?

It wouldn't, so I can't.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: heller@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (Aaron J. Heller)
Subject: Re: Judaism at Democratic National Convention
Organization: Aule-Tek, Inc., Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:56:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul18.062137.14019@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Personally, I'm curious why the media's ignoring the fact that Fred
>Malek is Bush's campaign chief, given that Malek had to resign Bush's
>campaign in 1988 because he carried out a headcount of Jewish workers
>under orders from Nixon during the Nixon Administration.

Actually, this is a fairly tame account of what happened.  Nixon
feared a Jewish conspiracy at the Bureau of Labor Statistics.  So in
1971, he asked Malek to prepare a list of officials at the BLS who
were Jewish.  After Makek produced his report, two of the Jews he had
identified were reassigned.
-- 
Aaron Heller  heller@balltown.cma.com  518/393-7379

Pictures are like blintzes -- ya gotta get 'em while they're hot. -Weegee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: schwartz@nynexst.com (Steven Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Chicken
Originator: schwartz@baba
Reply-To: schwartz@nynexst.com
Organization: Expert Systems Lab., NYNEX Sci. and Tech., White Plains NY
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 17:11:51 GMT


In article <2326@israel.nysernet.org>, warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein) writes:
> 
> As to why, it was so that no one would see a piece of meat, think it
> was fowl, and eat it with milk.  This is probably not so likely with a
> chicken leg still on the bone, but dishes using chopped up dark-meat
> chicken or meat could be confused.

I understand it as stemming from the fact that both beef and poultry
must be kashered, i.e. the blood removed before eating.
To avoid confusion and possible aveirah, the milk prohibition was
extended from beef to poultry.
-- 
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schwartz@nynexst.com		NYNEX Science and Technology Center
PROFS: SCHWARTZ@UNIX		500 Westchester Avenue
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: jgoldber@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
Subject: jewish urban legend
Originator: jgoldber@todah.chem.utoronto.ca
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:24:27 GMT

   Warren, you should appreciate this one. I've heard it twice now
   as a true story.

   Ger/ba'al tshuva asks to borrow a ring to put in his mouth before
   netilat yadayim.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Subject: the conversion can of worms, again (was Re: Anti-Orthodoxy ...)
Organization: NetNews Readers Anonymous
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:03:47 GMT

In article <dfs.712351333@ro> dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll) writes:

>Hear hear!  There is, however, one eminently practical problem: In
>Israel, people who marry or convert in the C or R streams face many
>problems.  If the Israeli govt. allowed C and R to perform marriages
>and conversions in Israel, then most of the practical problems would
>disappear, and everyone could live together more happily. :-)?

No.  The problems would _increase_ as Reform (and probably
Conservative) conversions are forced on the Orthodox.  That or the
Orthodox would have to start demanding much more careful geneological
record keeping.
-- 
Sam Saal      homxb!saal OR saal@homxb.att.com
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
From: eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: O-C-R debate
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:51:45 GMT
Reply-To: eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41

In article <1992Jul24.134710.14212@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> afrydman@granpa.enet.dec.com (Av Frydman) writes:
>   In article <1992Jul24.071839.29730@midway.uchicago.edu>, rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes...
>
>    But I would teach my children myself
>   >rather than send them to an Orthodox *anything*; I have about the same
>   >degree of appreciation for and agreement with Orthodox religious the-
>   >ory as I do for Christianity, and I wouldn't let my kids grow up being
>   >trained by either one.
>   > 
>   >	-Nora
>   > 
>   Clearly, something must be very wrong to engender this kind of hatred.  What
>   does "Orthodox" mean to you, Nora, that "anything" about it is anathema?

I didn't interpret Nora's characterization of Orthodox Judaism to be
hatred, but just theological disagreement.  That Orthodox theory is as
objectionable to Nora as Christian theory is striking.  This implies
that some Jews are as far apart from some other Jews as they are from
Christianity.  Since Judaism and Christianity are usually considered
two religions, this implies that Orthodox Judaism and, say, reform
Judaism are also two religions, at least in the eyes of some.


--
=Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re:  Meat on the first 10 days of Av.
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:54:09 GMT
Reply-To: <gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet

friedenb@egr.msu.edu ( Gedaliah Friedenberg ) writes:
>I have a few questions about eating meat between Rosh Chodesh Av and Tisha
>B'Av:

>When is the last time that I can have meat?  

I would think it's from sunset on Thursday.  In fact, while it's usually
a mitzvah to taste of the Shabbat dishes on Friday afternoon, this time
it's a no-no.

>Is there exception for eating meat on Shabbat during this period?  

Absolutely.  Drinking wine as well.

>Can I eat pareve foods which are cooked in fleishig pots but contain
>no meat?

Yes.

-Don Gertler
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Subject: Re: Anti-Orthodoxy (was Re: O-C-R debate)
Organization: NetNews Readers Anonymous
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:43:20 GMT


It's probably a major mistake to get in the middle of this cat fight,
but....

In article <1992Jul26.031539.16521@midway.uchicago.edu>
rivk@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>In article <1992Jul25.232940.13047@wam.umd.edu> aap@wam.umd.edu
(Alberto Adolfo Pinkas) writes:

>>When you said that intermarriage was wrong: Are you using halacha as your
>>basis for that?

>I'm using my judgement of the rules in Torah for that; in this case, as
>in many, they coincide with halacha.

Would you concede the Rabbis, at least in part, did something similar?
Why do yuou think the outcomes coincide?  Do you think more areas will
coincide as you learn/think more?

>>I guess you do not know.

>You guess wrong, as usual.

I see no reason to match Alberto's civility with such venom (although I
could see how _later_ posts started to come up [down?] to this level).
-- 
Sam Saal      homxb!saal OR saal@homxb.att.com
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: abortion for Noachides
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:34:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems

In article <2289@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org writes:
>Yesterday, I read a news story about how the US Customs confiscated
>RU486 pills (a French pill that induces abortions).  Anyone care to
>speculate if use of this pill might be halacially preferable to other
>methods?  Would its use be subject to any penalty at all?  To tell
>you the truth, I don't recall if killing a living person by poison is
>a capital crime for either Jews or Bnei Noach, but in this case (I
>think), the fetus isn't being poisoned, the mother's body is being
>made to reject the fetus.  Perhaps this is sufficiently indirect that
>it would not be subject to any penalty?
>-- 
>/|/-\/-\       The entire hall		Jerusalem
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> |warren@      But the chef
>/ nysernet.org is concerned.


There are several implications to this pill

1.  The pill works by preventing the fertilized egg from implanting
in th womb.

2.  This seems to imply that it MUST be used within the 40 day
limit referred to earlier.

3.  If the above is true then it would seem to fall under the laws
of "birth control" rather than of "abortion"

Does anyone know precisely if the restriction on the pill usage are
as I think.  What would be its effect once the fertilized egg has
been implanted in the womb wall and at various times during the pregnancy?

_______________________________________________________________
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From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Anti-Orthodoxy (was Re: O-C-R debate)
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:29:19 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll)

In article <dfs.712284318@data>, dfs@doe (David F. Skoll) writes:
>>Let me see.  Conservative and Reform Jews DON'T think they're right?

>Sure they do.  But they *don't* say that Orthodox are wrong.

That is certainly a lie.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: rwerman@vms.huji.ac.il (ROBERT WERMAN)
Subject: Kitniyot are Kosher [was: Multiple Hechshers]
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Date: 30 Jul 92 08:21:31 GMT


D. Gertler writes:

>In theory I agree.  But what about the differences between Ashkenazim
>and Sepahrdim, for instance?  If we want a unified hekhsher for Pesach,
>which should it be?  If it's only A, then the S have to give up their
>kitniot.  If it's only S, then the A are going to be unable to eat
>much of the hekhshered products, effectively ignoring the hekhsher.
**************

There is some confusion here; kitniyot have nothing to do with 
kosher/not kosher.

Everything a Sephardi Jew eats is permitted to an Ashkenazi and
vice versa.  It is true that Yemenite Jews have a tradition that
allows them to eat locusts, 4 species of which are kosher, 
d'orayita, which no one else recognizes.  But this is a matter
of care [zhirut] and not kashrut.  PesaH, one looks to see if 
the food is mutar l'ochlai kitniyot.


__Bob Werman    rwerman@hujivms.bitnet    rwerman@vms.huji.ac.il
Jerusalem



PS - I still believe multiple hechshers are devisive.
_B.
From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Jack's funniest (was Re: Another Holocaust)
Summary: Jack as a friend (read that both ways)
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:48:53 GMT
Organization: NetNews Readers Anonymous

In article <1992Jul23.160551.19811@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com
(Jack Schmidling) writes:

>In article <dfs.711663729@ro> dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll) writes:

>Just when I was warming up to you, you had to throw in that clunker.

I usually don't bother responding to anything Jack posts, but this was too
funny.  I certainly didn't expect him to wait till Purim when it would
have been even more appropriate (I doubt Jack understands the word
"appropriate") but it looks like David avoided a trauma.  After all with
friends like Jack....
-- 
Sam Saal      homxb!saal OR saal@homxb.att.com
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: egw@utkvx1.utk.edu (Wolpert, Edward Greenwal)
Subject: Question about 'Codes in the Torah.'
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:45:00 GMT

Shalom.
	A while back, I asked if anyone could give me refferences, in English
or Hebrew, that could help me understand what the 'Codes' are.  I got several
requests _for_ the information, but no one supplied the information.  There
seems to be a desire for this info, so if someone could please post it, I'm
sure many will benifit.
		-E.G. Wolpert

wolpert@lead.chem.utk.edu | I'm responsible for my actions,
    egw@utkvx.utk.edu     | are you responsible for yours?
    egw@utkvx             |
    ned@neon.chem.utk.edu |


zxdswham
From: ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: looking for an apt in J'lem
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:17:13 GMT
Organization: Math department, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, ISRAEL

In article <22055@venera.isi.edu> arens@ISI.EDU (Yigal Arens) writes:
>...
>It may not matter to you, but I doubt you will deny that this
>information *might* make a difference to some people who are looking for
>an apartment in Jerusalem.  That's why I posted it.
>                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Yigal Arens   "He seems like an average type of man.  He's not,
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!

 Shalom       Gideon Ehrlich     ERETS YISRAEL