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From: spankey@blackstone.eece.unm.edu (His Spanknesss)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: WANTED Guitar or Bass Ampliflier"old"
Date: 28 Jan 1993 22:10:36 GMT
Organization: UNM Electrical and Computer Engineering Department
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: blackstone.eece.unm.edu

Wanted: Tube amps one for bass one for guitar.
	like a Fender or Ampeg SVT ot V44,V40,Reverb-o-Rocket,
	ect. Fender Twin Reverb,Pro Reverb,Delux,Vibroverb ect.

	I like working on tube amps( I do not have a business for
	resaling amps)and get a big kick out of playing Bass and 
	guitar through different systems.
	
	Pleeze reply thru E-Mail 
					Thanks,
					Spankey

From: goo@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Michael Goo)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:31:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Have Any Good Keno Tips?
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: rec.gambling

msibbern@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Sibbernsen) writes...

>I'm just wondering if anyone has any good KENO tips they would like to
>share? Please post for future generations of Kenoites to enjoy.


Don't play.



With that out of the way, if you want to play for fun, I like to play the
"mark 20" game where you win if some low number of spots hits (0,1,2,3) or
some high number of spots hits (7 and up???).  I usually play two cards
per game and take all 40 spots in the upper or lower half.  Then I can 
watch the call and root for my numbers without having to think too hard.

Any way you cut it, keno is a lousy bet.  Do it for fun only.



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From: freedman@cs.colostate.edu (keith freedman)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Rubble Heaps.
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:50:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: yuma.Jan25.225057.48968
Reply-To: freedman@cs.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University -=- Computer Science Department

In article 7450@gw.wmich.edu, 22sullivan@gw.wmich.edu () writes:
>In article <1k13h8$6go@agate.berkeley.edu>, jacob@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jacob Jin) writes:
>> The Dunes is bidding its last farewell. The doors are closing
>> at midnight, HA HA HA HA HA HA!
>
>     I thought they were just closing to do some major remodeling.  Does
>someone know if this is true.
>
They have been financially unstable for at least the past two years.  They
are closing for good (unless someone buys them and upens up with no changes).


---
Keith Freedman
Colorado State University
Department of Computer Science
Systems Administration
From: gadberry@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu (Mike Gadberry)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Keywords: Yeah, right.
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:12:27 GMT

>     Both "Eckankar" and "Sant Mat" (referred to in the following article)
>PROHIBIT their Initiates from ANY form of gambling:
>
>  [irrelevant self-righteous obfuscationism omitted]
>
>Robert E. McElwaine
>2nd Initiate in Eckankar

Hey, Bob!
	I've got a hot tip for Eckankar and St. Mat:
if GOD plays dice with the UNIVERSE, it doesn't PAY to be a WRONG BETTOR.

	-Lighten up,
		Michael    gadberry@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu

Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Steven R Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Double Down Stud
In-reply-to: slandrum@ntg.com's message of 25 Jan 93 22:14:40 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
	<MBN.93Jan22135331@greyskul.hf.intel.com>
	<1993Jan25.221440.4868@ntg.com>
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:05:38

In article <1993Jan25.221440.4868@ntg.com> slandrum@ntg.com (Stephen H. Landrum) writes:
>
>In article <MBN.93Jan22135331@greyskul.hf.intel.com> mbn@hfglobe.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam) writes:
>>>>>>> "marty" == Marty Campman <Marty.Campman%bbs@quake.sylmar.ca.us> writes:
> [ Marty's table for double-down 7-stud payoffs deleted ... ]
> [ Video poker notes from the FAQ delete ... ]
>>
>>Taken together, doesn't this imply that this game has a positive
>>expectation (neglecting the effect of other player's hands, which may be
>>significant, since VP is a head-on game)?  (I imagine someone will show me
>>the error of my ways, the casinos probably aren't giving out free lunches
>>here.  :-))
>
> Hand probabilities will be different for 7-Stud vs. 5 card draw.

They are also different for 5-Stud vs. 5 card draw.

> Still, the table he gave looks like it should be a player win,
> especially if you get to know 6 of your cards before having the option
> to double down.

You only get to know 4 of your cards, since DD Stud is a 5 card game.
--
Steve Jacobs  ({bellcore,hplabs,uunet}!utah-cs!jacobs, jacobs@cs.utah.edu)
"Don't worry, I just have these harmless pocket rockets...."
From: morej@augustana.ab.ca
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: comp. programs wanted
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:35:05 MST
Organization: Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta

I am looking for a good program for my P.C. which is geared toward poker or 
other games of chance for the serious gambler.  In other words one that has
some merit to it.  I you have the names of some programs you could shar
I would appreciate the information.  

Thanks 

Joel Morello
From: jacob@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jacob Jin)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Rubble Heaps.
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:12:24 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

The Dunes is bidding its last farewell. The doors are closing
at midnight, HA HA HA HA HA HA!
From: msc9315@geovax.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Super Bowl
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:21:32 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh, Geography Department.

I happen to be under an 'obligatory' invitation to watch the
Super Bowl next weekend, and would like some objective [is that
asking too much :) ] advice on the outcome;

the spread in the UK appears to be about 7 points, what would all
those Americans out there advise; straight win?

cumulus,      (------)
             (---------)    ['No, of course I don't bet for fun ...']
Jon             (----)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: hjs@vipunen.hut.fi (Harri J Sirpoma)
Subject: Re: BJ in Finland (Was: Re: BJ in Sweden)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<1993Jan21.093631.19124@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:06:19

In article <1993Jan21.093631.19124@klaava.Helsinki.FI> picasso@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Marcus A Picasso) writes:

      - >95% penetration
	(The dealer shuffles right after the cut-card is dealt; even if a
	 game is in process.)
Not any more. Since begining of this year dealers have started cutting
at least one deck behind the cut-card

--
**************************************************************************
*******      Harri Sirpoma                  hjs@vipunen.hut.fi     *******
**************************************************************************
From: hack@arabia.uucp (Edmund Hack)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Summary: AIEEEEEEEE!
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:16:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: aio.1993Jan26.151617.25369
Organization: Lockheed ESC, Houston

AIEEEEEEEE!!!

The SUPREME FOLLOWER of Dr. PETER BETER has managed to LEAVE sci.space
and other groups and make it to rec.gambling.  Now WE FIND that he and
his RANDOM CAPITALIZER have made it to an UNUSUAL RELIGION.

      - "I wonder if I can HITCH a RIDE on a COSMOSPHERE to a
         RUSSIAN casino?"

-- 
Edmund Hack - Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co. - Houston, TX
hack@aio.jsc.nasa.gov - I speak only for myself, unless blah, blah..
"I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV."
"Detail Dress Circuits" "Belt: Above A, Below B" "Close B ClothesMode"
From: breid@pyrhard2.eng.pyramid.com (Bill Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:01:35 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

In article <1993Jan25.172151.3294@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>
>     Both "Eckankar" and "Sant Mat" (referred to in the following article)
>PROHIBIT their Initiates from ANY form of gambling:
>          
There are no atheists at craps tables.  I have taken the name of 
the GRAND MASTER ECK in vain many times when the PROFANE/SACRED number 
7 appeared.

Besides, I played BJ for several hours with a guy who is 
a MEMBER of this WEIRD RELIGION, and though he attempted SOUL TRAVEL 
into the deck, he lost, while I WON.  Plus he irritated the hell 
out of everybody with his constant HUMMING.   
 
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From: winslade@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Winslade)
Subject: Re: Roulette: RSSM, CQX5M, etc - where is info??
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:07:42 GMT

jarnold@tixel.mv.com (Jon Arnold) writes:

>Can anyone provide a pointer to a file on the net, or the name and
>author of a *good* book on the topic?  (Hopefully one which discusses
>"RSSM" and/or "CQX5M", whatever those are)?

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I am getting the feeling that such
things as RSSM and CQX5M are related to other things such as the skyhook,
the box stretcher, and relative bearing grease.  ;-)    Eh ??
 
Good day        JSW

Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: irwin@uvmark.uucp (Frank Irwin)
Subject: Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:11:16 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <185149@pyramid.pyramid.com> breid@pyrhard2.eng.pyramid.com (Bill Reid) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.172151.3294@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>>
>>     Both "Eckankar" and "Sant Mat" (referred to in the following article)
>>PROHIBIT their Initiates from ANY form of gambling:
>>          
>Besides, I played BJ for several hours with a guy who is 
>a MEMBER of this WEIRD RELIGION, and though he attempted SOUL TRAVEL 
>into the deck, he lost, while I WON.  Plus he irritated the hell 
>out of everybody with his constant HUMMING.   

It's good to see that you and Jacobs are back on speaking terms.  BTW,
that constant HUMMING isn't totally voluntary on his part, so go easy
on him.

-- 
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From: 22sullivan@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Rubble Heaps.
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:17:27 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1k13h8$6go@agate.berkeley.edu>, jacob@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jacob Jin) writes:
> The Dunes is bidding its last farewell. The doors are closing
> at midnight, HA HA HA HA HA HA!
> 
> 
> 
> 



     I thought they were just closing to do some major remodeling.  Does
someone know if this is true.



Peter Sullivan
COLD IN KALAMAZOO!!!!!

Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: Don.Delgrande@launchpad.unc.edu (Don Delgrande)
Subject: Why Pyramids/Trapezoids Don't Work (was Re: FAST CASH!!!)
Summary: Tipoff to the ripoff
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:49:10 GMT
Expires: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 05:00:00 GMT

Let's get the expected part over with: "it's a scam, it's not a service,
it's illegal" (is the E-Mail version illegal, though?) - and on top of that,
what if the first five people on that list got together to post that
message thinking that everybody who reads it (much more than 15 people)
will send each of them $1?
    Anyway, being a Civil Servant and all, I thought I'd do my good deed
for the day by explaning why these things don't work.  Simple: it is
IMPOSSIBLE for EVERYBODY involved to make a profit.  Proof: take a big pot
and mark it "Pyramid (or whatever shape is in this week) Funds".  All
money that changes hands goes into and out of this pot (i.e. when you send
person X $1, you put $1 into the pot and person X takes $1 out).  If
EVERYBODY makes money, then more money came out of the pot than went in. 
Somebody inform alt.magic if this is possible.
    Besides, do you _really_ want to trust a message posted by "(anonymous)"?

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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: reeves@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (John F. Reeves)
Subject: Current Vegas Conditions? (BJ/Poker)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:44:56 GMT

1) Where are the good blackjack tables?  Are there any single deck games 
on the Strip besides C^2 and the Frontier?  How about downtown?

2) Any recommendations on low-stakes holdem?  Do 2-4 games exist or
is the lowest 3-6? 

3) Are there any 5x or 10x crap tables on the strip?  downtown? 

					fnx muchly, John
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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: solensky@world.std.com (Frank T Solensky)
Subject: Re: FAST CASH!!!
Followup-To: rec.gambling
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:22:39 GMT

In article <C1Jpnq.GA8@news2.cis.umn.edu> (anonymous) writes:
...
    This is going to sound like a con, but in fact IT WORKS!

What IS IT with CAPS this week?

    [4]  Within 60 days you will receive over $50,000.00 in CASH.

And 50 million FLAMES from people who aren't SO STUPID!

							   Anonymous
Natch.


Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Steven R Jacobs)
Subject: Re: TSN (The Sierra Network) BJ
In-reply-to: larry@labrador.fishkill.ibm.com's message of Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:34:56 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
	<1993Jan21.150610.54780@watson.ibm.com>
	<1993Jan21.213456.55960@watson.ibm.com>
Date: 23 Jan 93 09:51:41

In article <1993Jan21.213456.55960@watson.ibm.com> larry@labrador.fishkill.ibm.com (Larry Pieniazek) writes:
>   In article <JACOBS.93Jan21120522@cells.cs.utah.edu>, jacobs@cs.utah.edu
>(Steven R Jacobs) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan21.150610.54780@watson.ibm.com>
>larry@labrador.fishkill.ibm.com (Larry Pieniazek) writes:
>> 
>>> I'm not sure what surrender is, but I don't think it has it.
>
> If "surrender" is in the FAQ, point me at it, but if not, would
> love to learn what it is. 

I believe it is in the FAQ, which should be posted any day now (where
have we heard this before....)

>> No need for extra skew, the player probably has a 1%+ edge at this
>> game just by using basic strategy.
>> --
>
> Would it pay to hit soft hands that you would normally stand on (say
> a soft 17 against the dealer's 5 showing) to try to get the 5 card max
> 2:1 bonus or is that not a good plan?

It depends on the number of cards you are holding.  Obviously, you should
hit any 4-card soft hand, since you are guaranteed to win 2:1 by doing so.
This rule will also cause some changes in the hit/stand decision when
holding 3 cards, but I can't give an exact list of these exceptions to
basic strategy (I've computed such lists before, but it is a royal pain).
--
Steve Jacobs  ({bellcore,hplabs,uunet}!utah-cs!jacobs, jacobs@cs.utah.edu)
"Don't worry, I just have these harmless pocket rockets...."
From: slandrum@ntg.com (Stephen H. Landrum)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Double Down Stud
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:14:40 GMT
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

In article <MBN.93Jan22135331@greyskul.hf.intel.com> mbn@hfglobe.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam) writes:
>>>>>> "marty" == Marty Campman <Marty.Campman%bbs@quake.sylmar.ca.us> writes:
 [ Marty's table for double-down 7-stud payoffs deleted ... ]
 [ Video poker notes from the FAQ delete ... ]
>
>Taken together, doesn't this imply that this game has a positive
>expectation (neglecting the effect of other player's hands, which may be
>significant, since VP is a head-on game)?  (I imagine someone will show me
>the error of my ways, the casinos probably aren't giving out free lunches
>here.  :-))

Hand probabilities will be different for 7-Stud vs. 5 card draw.

Still, the table he gave looks like it should be a player win,
especially if you get to know 6 of your cards before having the option
to double down.
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From: jsvrc@rc.rit.edu (J A Stephen Viggiano)
Subject: Re: Should I return the money back?
Organization: RIT Research Corp
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:11:18 GMT

[beginning of thread deleted]

In article <Jan23.221319.29278@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> freedman@cs.colostate.edu writes:

>Not sure about Nevada, but Colorado State law says that if a cashier
>retruns too much change to a customer, the customer is under NO
>OBLIGATION to return any money.  However, if the customer is given
>insufficient change, they may request the difference.

I think most everybody is as interested in the moral obligation as in the
legal . . . . Bravo to the original poster for doing the right thing!
From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Subject: Re: Craps
Keywords: craps
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:27:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.024939.28776@til.til.com> tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka) writes:
>In article <hunt.727506498@shy.umd.edu>, hunt@shy.umd.edu (Brian Hunt) writes:
>|> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
>|> >[SOME NICE CALCULATIONS DELETED]
>|> 
>|> >Pass  49.293 %
>|> >Don't Pass  49.299 %
>|> 
>|> >Some people count the "bar" number (12 in my calculations) as half
>|> >a win and therefore come up with a different number.  
>|> >I think those people should be locked up. :-)
>|> 
>
>Your numbers above do not make sense.  As I recall, on a 12, both
>Pass and Don't Pass loses, right?  In that case, the probability 
>of a 12 = 1/36 = 2.7778% is both lose.  With your numbers, it's 
>1.4%.  Something wrong there.  My numbers are:

12 is a loss for Pass.  12 is a *push* for Don't Pass.
>
>   Pass        49.292929%
>   Don't Pass  47.929292%  (49.3182% if 12 is a push for Don't Pass)
                             ^^^^^^^
Yep, this looks like the "normal" Don't Pass % chance of winning.

>                                  Conditional Prob. based on 1st Roll
>   First Roll   Prob of 1st Roll   Pass     Don't Pass
>        2            1/36            0          1
>        3            2/36            0          1
>        4            3/36           1/3        2/3
>        5            4/36           2/5        3/5
>        6            5/36           5/11       6/11
>        7            6/36            1          0
>        8            5/36           5/11       6/11
>        9            4/36           2/5        3/5
>       10            3/36           1/3        2/3
>       11            2/36            1          0
>       12            1/36            0          0 (or 0.5)
                                                    ^^^^^^
What does that 0.5 mean?  
The way I read it, it means that you win 1/2 the time when a 12
is rolled and that you lose 1/2 the time when a 12 is rolled.

Let's make up a new game called "Don't Only Craps" where a computer
generates random rolls, but will not print a roll of 12.
Now do your same calculation and you will get my number: 49.299 %.

I claim that (to a Don't Pass player) the only difference
between Craps and "Don't Only Craps" is that you will watch
a few more rolls at Craps and spend a little more time playing.
There is no difference in how much money you'll win or lose.

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From: rcj2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (ray.c.jender)
Subject: Re: Super Bowl
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:43:27 GMT

In article <1jhviqINNio9@pandora.sdsu.edu> masc0059@rohan.sdsu.edu.sdsu.edu (Tim Baker) writes:
>
>	I am going to be in Las Vegas on January 30th - February 2nd, and
>was curious if anyone knew of a good casino to watch the game at.  Last year
>I spent it at the Sahara, and it wasn't to bad.  $15 per person for a buffet
>(not including drinks) and a seat in one of the ballrooms with 5 huge big
>screen T.V's to watch the game.  It sure beats the Sport Books.
>Is there any other place you would recommend to watch the game at???
>

	I was going to suggest the Stardust, but then again being the
	SuperBowl, it will probably be too crowded. Next I would try
	Ceasars Palace. Very nice with the bar only a few feet behind
	you. Don't know about buffet deals. I would eat at your favorite
	place BEFORE the game and just drink and party down during
	the game!!!
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: What gives at the Garden City ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:48:21 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <1993Jan25.222140.7287@island.COM> guido@island.COM (Guido Marx) writes:

>I heard a brief report on the radio over the weekend that some
>"stockholders" of the Garden City were arrested and charged
>with crimes that allegedly took place at the club.  The report
>was EXTREMELY sketchy.  Anyone know who these people are, and
>what they are charged with ? 

What the report was probably referring to was the conclusion of a
six or seven year investigation of the GC owners for skimming, tax
evasion and a few other nits.  At the time the offenses were discovered,
San Jose toyed with shutting them down, but now that the city is deeply
addicted to the cardroom's tax revenue, they're just forcing the owners
to sell and pay some stiff fines.

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