HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Re: Campus Naturist Network forming (might have been Re: Michigan CO)
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:44:50 GMT

>Well, look y'all. This is about the umpteenth person
>in the last month or two who has expressed a serious
>interest in what would generally be termed "Campus
>Clothing Freedom".
>
>With all the impetus I feel for this, why don't we
>start a campus Naturist network and give young adults
>the opportunity to make up their own minds about
>what we've been preaching all this time. I mean,
>you either get it right in college or you're
>doomed for life, right?
>
>All it takes is time, a little money (from the
>student activities group), time, organization,
>time, a pseudo-regular meeting or activity, time,
>and some fun. Are you folks up for it or what?
>
>-- 
>
>bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)


Sounds good to me. I'm a rising 4th year at James Madison University in
Harrisonburg, VA (NOT UNC-CH, that's only the BBS I use) so can I get in on
it?

--Mark
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: craigbr@informix.com (Craig Browning)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Uptightness about sex & ...
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:46:55 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <4445@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>In article <l85lcnINNrv1@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM
>(Has sex with Drums) writes:
>
>>     Another sex-negative type -- they are all over the place!
>
>If you want to have sex at the beach why not deal with just 1 controversy at
>a time.  If you are nude and having sex and at the beach, they'll cite you
>for being nude and close down the beach.  By having your sex at the textile
>beach you can avoid all that.
>
>>  Look -- sex has been around long before man ever walked on this planet.
>> It is the most natural and wholesome thing you can do -- with an emphasis on
>> natural.  Thinking that sex is a perversion is why nudity is fully
>> related to why nudity is disallowed -- nudity & sex are 'sins'.
>
>Please go have sex at the bowling alley while your at it.  Sex has been
>around a lot longer than bowling and is far more natural an act than rolling
>that ball down the lane.

Please go naked at the bowling alley. Nudity has been around a lot longer
than bowling and is far more natural an act than rolling that ball down the
lane.

>If you want to argue that you should be allowed to have sex here, there
>and everywhere, that's fine by me.  I just wish you'd try your argument
>out in a differnent location FIRST.  Why do you HAVE to try your argument
>out at beaches that are on the edge of being outlawed?
>
>Seriously, go have sex under Gimble's (Kaufmans/Macy's) clock at high noon
>downtown if you like.  I'm sure that if you can do it there, nobody will
>bother you at the beach -- nude or textile.
>
Seriously, go naked under Gimble's (Kaufmans/Macy's) clock at high noon
downtown if you like.

>Do let us all know what success you have so we can stop being so sex-negative.
>
>THEN feel free to come by and have sex at the beach.

Do let us all know what success you have so we can stop being so nude-negative.

THEN feel free to come by and go naked at the beach.

Gee, you make a convincing case against nudity as well as sex at the beach.
Doesn't that scare you a little? It's because you are violating the same
principles you use to justify nudity when you codemn sex.


Craig

>
>Terry
>-- 
>        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
>"Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"                        - Lord "John" Warfin
>"There can be only one!"                                  - The Highlander
>"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: x rated gifs
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:18:00 GMT
Reply-To: tjw+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


>Somewhere else.  Go away.  We only *talk* about sex on the beach...we don't
>post pictures of it.  (Though, I guess we could post a picture of -wat- and
>his SO.  After all, it wouldn't harm them.  And privacy isn't an issue since
>they'd be doing it in public.)

If you post a GIF of -wat- and his drums, pluuueazeeee post it only in the
alt.binaries.* newsgroups! ;-)  Or maybe I'll set up an FTP site ;-)

Terry "100% natural" Wood
-- 
        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
"Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"                        - Lord "John" Warfin
"There can be only one!"                                  - The Highlander
"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
From: FORTMAPL@UDAVXB.OCA.UDAYTON.EDU ("Paul Fortman : free spirit")
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Exercise
Date: 16 Aug 92 05:03:15 GMT


	From: megs@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Meg Sisson)
	Newsgroups: rec.nude
	Subject: Exercise
	Date: 14 Aug 92 16:35:46 GMT
 
	Hi all,
 
	I am finally able to post properly to this group. And that leads to 
	my questions for you all.
 
	While I was trying to restart my morning yoga program, it occurred 
	to me that I haven't seen anything about exercising while nude. I've 
	taken a few yoga classes (clothed) and gone through a few books. 
	One book did recommend practising nude in order to get more deeply 
	into the postures and not be limited by binding clothing. 
 
Other than swimming (there's no place to swim nude around here) I always
exercise nude, always have.  Perhaps I can find somewhere to swim nude
when I get to Purdue next week.  

	I am guessing the CO resorts might offer some exercise programs 
	beyond beach volleyball :-) Does any one know of such or had any other 
	experience in nude exercises, not necessarily yoga? Does jogging 
	really require support (both male/female) or is the clothing industry 
	just trying to sell more apparel?

I don't know of any exercise programs offered by naturist resorts or clubs,
but I think it is a very good idea.  When I start Purdue Naturists in a 
few weeks I will have to see what I can do to include exercise programs in
the agenda.  
 
Thanks Meg, for the excellent idea.

	** It's great to be back in temperate Oregon -- no tropics for me.
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What IS the weather like in Oregon?   Hmm.  This has reminded me of a friend
presently living in Portland.  I must call her to find out how she is doing.

*Pooh Bare

Paul Fortman
Dayton, Ohio (for another week anyway)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Re: Sex on the beach
Reply-To: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:59:34 GMT

In article <l8opdkINN9kb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances  
with Drums) writes:
> 	Hey, Terry, killing happens all the time in nature.  Maybe we should
> also be able to kill each other at any time because it is natural?  

I guess I'm just an anarchist.  I believe that in a perfect world, there would  
be no prohibitions on anything, anywhere, at any time, by anyone or anything.   
As to killing, since it has become such a taboo due to social conditioning (and  
that's all it is, really - it wasn't such a taboo in the feudal era in Japan; in  
addition there are documented cases of males in chimp "tribes" organizing raids  
on other "tribes" to kill their males and take their food and females, so it's  
difficult to argue that it's unnatural), if restrictions on killing were  
suddenly removed there would be a lot of it, for a while.  Then it would slow  
down as people realized that it is ultimately self-destructive.  This will never  
happen, though, because it is the nature of humans to restrict killing and other  
behaviors.

Abuses of anything, whether it be killing, drugs, alcohol, or whatever,  
primarily get worse as the prohibitions on the behavior get stronger.  While  
there will always be abusers (simply because there is always a range of the  
intensity of a behavior, usually resembling a statistical bell curve), somehow  
the universe would continue.  If I were one killed due to natural human  
behavior, then the universe would simply no longer have me.  If you think about  
it, you come to realize that you can't do _anything_ unnatural, simply because  
it is impossible for you to violate the mythical "laws of nature."  Dumping  
toxic waste in a river, and jailing those who do, are as natural for humans as  
flying is for a bird or flowing is for water.  Everything has its nature, and it  
is human nature to, among other things, have widely differing views on nudity,  
sex, and the connection or non-connection between them.

Flame on, but never stop the discussion!

Michael

--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
~18 kyu
Q16
NeXTMail appreciated
From: millman@ursa.UUCP (Phillip Millman)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Need TNS & ASA Info
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:27:35 GMT
Organization: Bear Stearns, NY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


My wife and I are interested in joining the TNS and ASA.  If some one could
send me their numbers, I would appreciate it.

Phillip Millman					millman@bear.com

#include <std_disclaimer.h>

Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: kurt@eskimo.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrum)
Subject: Re: Uptightness about sex & ...
Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:01:58 GMT

In article <l8fud2INN80g@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums) writes:
[...]
>    Excuse me.  I never said anyone, anything, anywhere.  My bent was
>more along the lines of anything that I am doing that is not directly
>harming you -- i.e.  -- it is my own business or my business with another
>consenting adult, should be allowed.  If I am physically harming you,
>that is another matter.  But things like the mental distress of you
>seeing me naked at a nude beach, or seeing me making love to my
>girlfriend are totally in your mind and programming.  I am not physically
>inflicting anything on you.
[...]

These days, equipment exists that can generate exquisite false-colored
images of the brain based presumably on brain activity, and thus may be
used to guide corrective surgery.  With a portable brain scanner, blue-noses'
offended sensibilities can be repaired on the spot by simply excising the
offending region!  Unfortunately, in the course of attempting to relieve
problems that are essentially mental in nature, the poor blue-nose suffers
the traumatic effects of an invasive procedure.  You just can't please
anybody.
-- 
kurt@grogatch.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrum)
e-mail me at kurt@eskimo.celestial.com for a copy of Bob Black's essay,
"The Abolition of Work"
Xref: sparky rec.nude:3891 alt.flame:12069 alt.sex:26634
From: owvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Donald C. Markowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.nude,alt.flame,alt.sex
Subject: Re: ORGASMS
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:17:20 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

>Come over to my bed anytime, Mere. I'll give you so many 'quiet' orgasms
>that at the end of our love-making, you'll be breathing a sigh of happiness
>for generations to come.

When two deaf people have orgasms in the woods do they make a sound?
From: speers@opus.mcds.com (Daniel E. Speers)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Sex on the beach
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:27:32 EDT
Organization: Dan's Domain, Randolph, New Jersey

williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums) writes:

>     This is the "sell out" -- by compromising on the nudity and sex
> issue, you start buying into the 'appearances' bullshit.  You are putting
> on a 'show' for the locals -- "no touchy, no feeley".  You have exchanged
> bodily freedom for more heavy binders on your souls and emotions.
> 
>     Instead of being something that frees one, it becomes more of a
> straight-jacket.  This is the 'prudist' lifestyle I hear preached alot
> in this group.  Maybe none of you would ask me to stop if I was in an
> intimate embrace (but no sex) w/girlfriend at your favorite spot, but
> I doubt it.

   No exchange is going on by freeing your body of clothing.  No
"show" for locals - simply saying that the only difference between
the clothed people and the nude people is just that, the clothing.
As said before, if you want to change the rules and standards that
society has imposed, then you change one rule at a time.
From: gt9017a@prism.gatech.EDU (  )
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: 1992 Gathering of Gay Male Nudists
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:04:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


  If anyone who is attending the 1992 Gathering of Gay Male Nudists
  in Pennsylvania next week would like to meet up then, email me to
  figure out a time/place.

  If you're not attending but are interested in information about
  the 1993 gathering, email me your address. 
  (gt9017a@prism.gatech.edu)                          
  There are about 620 men attending this year and we hope to make
  it an even bigger event next year. There are LOTS of fun activities
  and nice people to meet. This year it is 5 days/4 nights and
  costs $225US including everything (food, lodging, drinks, premiums, etc.)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: 1992 Gathering of Gay Male Nudists
From: dsolis@koko.csustan.edu (Djelrik Solis)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 10:59:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CSU Stanislaus


	Alas, it is across the country :(

_____________________________________________________________________________
Djelrik Solis
CIIS, San Francisco

fishheads, fishheads, roley poley fishheads
fishheads, fishheads, eat them up, YUM!

Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Re: Sex on the beach
Reply-To: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Distribution: world,local
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:58:02 GMT

From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Sex on the beach
Reply-To: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Distribution: world,local

In article <4591@verdix.verdix.com> dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan)  
writes:
> The people at the textile beach have already made the decision that civil  
rights
> are meaningless. If some activity offends them, they will ban it. They admit 
> they are uptight, and are driven more by religious/social pressure than
> rational thinking.
> 
> The nudists, on the other hand, claim to be free from such superstitions. They
> vaunt their championing of freedom, of civil rights, and the wholesomeness of
> naturist activities.
> 
> That is why we point out to them that sex is very similar to nudity. And 
> somebody who respects the right of somebody to do as they want, as long as
> it doesn't cause direct harm, should not object to public sex.
> 
> The only valid objection from naturists may be that public sex on nude beaches
> may cause the authorities to close the beaches. But that should be prefaced by
> a "Public sex is ok, but..." and not a "You sinful, twisted, perverts..."

Thank you, that is exactly what I was trying to say before.  This is the first  
balanced view on this topic I have seen since the thread started.

Michael

--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
~18 kyu
Q16
NeXTMail appreciated

Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Subject: Re: Hot Springs / Hot Tubs
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:18:05 GMT

In article <7950024@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> post@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (David Post) writes:
>In rec.nude, middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
>
> >                                      Hot springs tend to well up from deep
> >within the earth so if you are in a place near the source with a constant
> >supply of fresh water you are unlikely to have a problem.
>
>Every hot spring I've been in mixes cooler water from somewhere, usually the
>surface.  I wonder if it is ever treated to kill organisms.  I wonder if
>anybody ever checks for presence of organisms.

Not true of all hot springs.  Some flow (or trickle) into a large enough
pool that the air will cool them to a tolerable temperature.  (The bigger
the pool, the cooler it gets.)  But either way, the temperature in a
*usable* pool is cool enough that stuff *might* li.  The source of the 
water might be safe, but that doesn't guarantee that the pool is.

Bill.
-- 
Bill Arnett                            Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Sex on the beach
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:45:54 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <4591@verdix.verdix.com>, dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan) writes:

> As to defecation, it is a public health hazard.

But it is 100% natural!  You are obviously one of those EVIL, VILE
        "100% natural bodily function" NEGATIVE types!!!!

Terry ":-P for the you-know-what-impaired" Wood

-- 
        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
Xref: sparky rec.nude:3974 alt.sex:27078
From: tjgerman@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Trevor German)
Newsgroups: rec.nude,alt.sex
Subject: BRA SURVEY
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:45:53 GMT
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA


	---------------------------------------------------
	THE SURVEY IS STARTED AND RESPONCES ARE COMING IN.
        ---------------------------------------------------

	However, I think I should make a few things clear.

	1. This survey is for women, not men. 

		Sorry guys I don,t want to hear how many
	women you have 'had' who did it this way or that
	way. Your information is heresay and can't be 
	counted in the survey, so don't waste bandwidth.

	2. The belt method is only 'new' to me.

		I am not suggesting this is a new and
	improved method, it's only new to me. Thats 
	why I started the survey, to find out how
	common it is.
	
	3. Posting in alt.sex.

		Someone posted a flame to me about posting
	here. Alt.sex is for discussions regaurding matters
	which are applicable to gender as well as copulation.
	Since about half the population is female and, at
	some time in their life, if not all the time, will
	wear one of these stupid things, this posting applies.

	4. Posting in alt.nude.

		Ok so nudists don't wear clothes, right ?
	
		Wrong.

		The majority of nudists are recreational
	nudists. ie wear clothes most of the time. This 
	group is about clothes, hence the posting.

	5. Yes. some people actually do use the back hand
		method and prefer it. 

	6. Front loaders don't count.

	====================================================

	SO TO REMIND YOU, IF YOU MISSED THE ORIGINAL POSTING

	I want to know, which Ladies

		1. Fasten thier bras behind the back
		2. Fasten their bras in front first
			then twist them around.

	====================================================

 



--
       >| "Only average people           | Trevor J German BSc    |<
       >|       never make mistakes."    | NCR, Waterloo, Ontario |<
       >|	               	         | Canada.                |< 
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: bcollins@utdallas.edu (Arlin B. Collins)
Subject: Re: ORGASMS
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:11:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.183130.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> 11mbruce@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>Let's see some merging of the brains here. Tell me the names and the
>descriptions of the various types of orgasms. I'm sure many of you nudists must
>have extensive knowledge in this part of the area as well. 
>
>Mere

    two types:
	1.  GREAT
	2.  FANTASTIC

-- 
Arlin B Collins     CompuServe:  INTERNET:bcollins@utdallas.edu   :-)
From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Sex on the beach
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:45:51 GMT
Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena

In article <4693@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>I wasn't going to post this, but since we're talking about "what's natural"
>in rec.nude now, I thought I'd bring up another bodily function that's 100%
>natural.  I want to do it, in full public view, at a "nude" beach just
>because it's natural.  After all, they will not let me do it at the
>textile beach 'cause they say it's offensive to them there, so I'm going to
>inflict it on the "nude" beach.
---
	I don't have a problem with this Terry.  As long as you take your
dump or your leak into a container that will in no way pollute the beach
and cause a health hazard, go right ahead.  If you are advocating 
polluting the beach, I will have to disagree with that.


>that of the "nude" beach?  Why not at a State and or Federal Park?  Why not
>under Macy's Clock at High Noon?  Why must they be done at the "nude" beach?
---
	Like someone else said -- why don't you go nude under Macy's Clock
at High Noon -- just stand their nude for a while and see where it 
gets you.

>And I wish you people weren't so 100% natural bodily function NEGATIVE!
---
	Sorry.  I'm not.  I've had more than one girlfriend who *insists* on
shutting the door when using the bathroom.  I on the other hand often
don't -- at least when I am in my own home.  I had one girlfriend who
tried to make me shut the door when I was using the bathroom, claiming
I was being rude and disrespectful of her by doing my thing in front
of her.  I told her she didn't have to look and that was it.  She didn't
last long.

-wat-
--
"If your annual income today is $50,000, you have the same buying power as
the average coal miner did in 1949, adjusted for taxes and inflation," John
Sestina, nationally recognized Certified Financial Planner;  quoted in 1987.
From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Campus Naturist Network forming (might have been Re: Michigan CO)
Summary: Get a load of the References: line!!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:45:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naturist Action Committee, Washington office

In article <LZd-mX-@engin.umich.edu> roy@engin.umich.edu (Roy William Feague) writes:
>sirota#m#_alex@msgate.corp.apple.com (Alex Sirota) writes (in response
> to a U of Michigan skinny dipping request:)
>>Which swimming pool is this Dave? The natatorium you mean? I am up for a
>>nude outing at U of M. I will be in my senior year next year. Tried nude
>>beaches here in the SF Bay and loved it...
>>So what is the deal in Michigan? Anyone?
>Wow! Some folks at U of M with CO interests.  

Well, look y'all. This is about the umpteenth person
in the last month or two who has expressed a serious
interest in what would generally be termed "Campus
Clothing Freedom".

With all the impetus I feel for this, why don't we
start a campus Naturist network and give young adults
the opportunity to make up their own minds about
what we've been preaching all this time. I mean,
you either get it right in college or you're
doomed for life, right?

All it takes is time, a little money (from the
student activities group), time, organization,
time, a pseudo-regular meeting or activity, time,
and some fun. Are you folks up for it or what?

-- 

bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Subject: Re: re exercise
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:30:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.225328.27139@mr.med.ge.com> campbell@clam.med.ge.com (Scott Campbell Mfg QIE 4-6778) writes:
>
>Canoeing nude (canodeing) or Kayaking nude (kaynodeing) is also great
>exercise. 
                ^^^^^^^^^
Normally it is spelled CANUDING.
-- 
Bill Arnett                            Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.nude