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From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:29 PDT
Subject: Re: Update on PANAMA
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug18.122148.25580@phcomgw.s:-473337783:cdp:1473800281:000:229
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Aug 18 14:29:00 1992


Emilio, there is a conference on PeaceNet devoted entirely to
Panama....since I don't think you get to see it, if you will
tell me what you are interested in I will e-mail all such info
on Panama to you.

Sincerely,
Debra Guzman
From: drusso@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Venezuelan Newspapers Wanted
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:18:01 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

I need help in finding a relatively rapid, dependable, and reasonaly priced
source for the Venezuelan daily newspapers "El Universal" and "El Nacional".
It is important that I receive every daily edition of at least one of these
newspapers with some degree of certainty.  I receive them now from a source
in Miami, but delivery is erratic.  Please send suggestions to me by e-mail:

Internet: DRUSSO@UMIAMI.IR.MIAMI.EDU
BITNET: DRUSSO@UMIAMI.BITNET

Thanks in advance, Dan Russo
From: lazaro@riemann.math.mun.ca (Lazaro Nunez)
Subject: Re: Humanitarian, Cuba, Et Al.
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:32:29 GMT

Although Mario's posting was addressed to Edelmiro, I took the liberty to
answer some of his comments.

In article <1992Aug20.045906.18514@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> torres@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca ( mario  torres ) writes:

[...]

>I, like Marcus, am also a Canadian and I assure you that 
>paranoia regarding Cuba and Castro that has permeated every
>level of society in the US is unknown to us(Canadians). If

I, like you, am a Canadian. Its true, there isn't in Canada any
"paranoia regarding Cuba and Castro", we see instead a kind of romance
between Canada and Cuba that reached its peak when former Prime Minister
Pierre Trudeau yelled a "Viva Castro" in Havana. Why did he do that?, some-
body may ask. Well, for years and years Canada has followed sheepishly
Washinton's policies. He [Trudeau] needed to show to the world that
Canada wasn't a US appendix; so was there any better way than by using
Cuba?

[...]
>approval of canadians to go ahead. We are happily 
>and voluntarily enjoying our relationship with Cuba
>and they are definitely going to become more intensive
>due to the embargo imposed by the US.

Canadians are "happily and voluntarily" enjoing the beaches and hotels
of Cuba, something that the Cubans unhappily and involuntarily cannot
enjoy themselves. 

[...]
>PS: This summer I am going to visit Havana, do you wish me
>to bring you some souvenirs?????????

Yes, bring the Castros with you.

-- 
| Lazaro Nun~ez Figueiral         ||  !Lloran sobre el Mar de Cuba	     |
| Memorial University of Nfld.    ||  enormes flores bermejas;	             |
| St. John's, Terranova, Canada.  ||  sobre la isla perdida	   	     |
| lazaro@odie.cs.mun.ca           ||  el aire amarillo tiembla! - F.G. Lorca |
From: fevava@sicsun.epfl.ch (Felipe VALENZUELA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re:  Pinochet y chilian people
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:41:07 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.latin-america
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1992Aug12.142519.7579@cicb.fr>, moisan@cicb.fr (Herve Moisan -  stagiaire CICB) writes:
|> is Pinochet always at power ?
|> 
|> 
|> of what country are native chilian people ? 
|> (spanish ? indian ? other countries?)
|> 
|> in my country there is some people called Pinochet (britanny in france)

Pinochet is no more President (Dictator) of Chile after he lost elections.
Actual President is Patricio Alwyn representing a coalition of DC, PS and PR
politic parties. Meanwhile he remains Chief of Army Forces.

Chilien people are the the result of crossing between indians (mapuches)
and spanish conquistadors. An other part of chileans comes from Germany and
Italy.

Le nom Pinochet a une origine francais, donc ce n'est pas etonant trouver
ce nom de famille quelque part en France.
From: dsonnier@afit.af.mil (David L Sonnier)
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.culture.latin-america.soc.culture.latin-america
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:54:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.080556.16936@morrow.stanford.edu> jabba@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Richard Charles Graves) writes:
>Since soc.culture.latin-america seems to have been taken over by the mad
>alt.progressive/misc.activism.progressive/talk.politics cross-posters, I
>propose the formation of a new usenet group, tentatively titled
>soc.culture.latin-america.soc.culture.latin-america, which will focus
>on issues of latin american society, culture, and invariably politics from
>a latin american perspective.
>If anyone from the pre-August crowd is still subscribed to this group, yes,
>I'm serious.
>

Sounds good.

Dave
From: rone@girtab.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Humanitarian, Cuba, Et Al.
Date: 19 Aug 1992 02:11:34 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

In article <16177@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez007856@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>>Putting pressure on Latin
>>American countries to isolate Cuba or face a cutoff of AMERICAID is
>>another example of the US's continuing paranoia of socialist ideology.
>The same paranoia that has Mr. Yeltsin in power.  The same paranoia that 
>brought down the wall...

You're confusing socialism with communism.  This is a Bad Thing.

The sanctions have done NOTHING towards getting communism squashed in Cuba.
They did nothing in South Africa to get rid of Apartheid either.  Cuba will
not improve until Fidel is gone.  Period.  Sanctions will not make this happen
faster.

5150
mho
From: harelb@MATH.CORNELL.EDU (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Gulf "War"&Chomsky -- final response (part 3)
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:25:04 GMT
Organization: misc.activism.progressive on UseNet ; ACTIV-L@UMCVMB

(part 3 does not concern Latin America; those interseted can refer to
the low-volume newsgroup alt.desert-storm.)

Harel

(replies by email, please. Co-moderate MAP and a few other projects
for a while and you'll see why I can't reguarly read the Net for
replies to my posts...)
From: ez007856@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Mexico/Cuba
Date: 15 Aug 92 06:42:28 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In <1992Aug14.183623.8189@asl.dl.nec.com> Jorge excribe:

>Edelmiro Salas escribe:
>> Is it

>> that Bush is taking a mordida from Mexican oligarchs? ...
>>

>!Que risa!  ?Mexico comprando al gobierno de Estados Unidos?
>!Me parece que estas hablando a lo PENDEJO Edelmiro! Deberias
>de tenerte un poco de respeto a ti mismo y al pais donde estas
>viviendo ...  :-)

>Saludos aclaratorios (digo, por lo de las pendejadas)

Vamos Jorge! No hay necesidad de insultar. Mi pregunta hiperbolica no fue sino 
eso mismo: una pregunta.  Yo pense que por ahi los letrados podian distinguir 
entre una pregunta y una oracion aclaratoria.  De cualquier manera, el meollo 
de mi articulo no lo contestaste: Si Mexico quiere libre comercio con los 
Estados Unidos tendra que abandonar su libre comercio con Cuba asi como sus 
practicas persecutorias contra aquellos que huyen de Cuba.  Si por el 
contrario, el estado norteamericano acepata un tratado con Mexico que permita 
que continue el libre comercio de Mexico con Cuba, me parece que el embargo 
contra Cuba dejaria de existir en la practica y por tal razon me parece que la 
politica norteamericana en el referente al tratado es un tanto  inconsistente 
con su politica hacia Cuba.

Fijate que he dejado las hiperboles a un lado en esta nueva aclaracion para 
beneficio tuyo.  Por ultimo en cuanto a tus sugerencias del respeto propio y al 
pais en donde vivo, te dire que como puertorriquen~o siempre he querido mucho a 
mi "pais" (los Estados Unidos de Norteamerica) y no creo que el quejarme del 
tratado sea anti patriotico.  La proxima senadora de California, Diane 
Feinstein [por quien vote en las primarias] tambien se opone al tratado.  Asi 
que dejate este debate en torno a las "pendejadas" y hablemos un poco mas sobre 
el Tratado y sus implicaciones en cuanto a las relaciones de mi pais con Cuba.

Edelmiro
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:12 PDT
Subject: ARGENTINA/CHILE: BORDER CONFLICT BL
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Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Aug 14 10:12:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: ARGENTINA/CHILE: BORDER CONFLICT BL

/* Written 12:12 am  Aug 13, 1992 by newsdesk in
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rights reserved.  Permission to re- print within 7 days of
original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: ARGENTINA/CHILE: BORDER CONFLICT BLOCKS INTEGRATION, MENEM
SAYS

quito, 10 aug (ips) -- argentinian president carlos menem said
here that economic integration between argentina and chile remains
''difficult'' while the border problem beteen the two countries
persists.

menem, who attended monday's inauguration of ecuadorean president
sixto duran-ballen, said that only the resolution of the border
issue would make it possible for the two countries to register
greater economic growth by complementing each other's economy.

menem said he would continue to highlight the need for a
definitive agreement on the issue until ''some sectors in chile
and some in argentina finally understand that this is one of the
most positive forms of advancing in the integration process.''

''we are working intensely on this issue and i think that we shall
be able to solve it soon,'' he said.

the accord, signed in 1991 between menem and his chilean vis-a-vis
patricio aylwin fixes the southern border between the two
countries.

it needs to be ratified by both parliaments before it becomes
operative.

chile's senate has already approved the draft pact, but in
argentina is being opposed by a lobby headed by parliamentarians
and administrators from the area concerned.
(end/ips/trd/so/dc-sfi/kb/92)
----

Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: torres@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca ( mario  torres )
Subject: Re: Humanitarian, Cuba, Et Al.
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 05:50:50 GMT

Hi again!!:
            Edelmiro.....asimilado?????.......Duh!????....??????
Just what are you talkin about????. I do not resent to be called
one but I just want to show our fellow netters how fit for the
garbage dump(I'm being generous!) your "replies" are. You are just
too quick to jump to conclusions in order to justify the garbage
you post here!!. Is it that my name that made think I am an 
"asimilado"??..I would like firstly that you define for us the
term "asimilado". Then, in order to asist in deciding whether the
definition applies to me I will provide you the following information:
I am the son of athird generation Spanish-Canadian father and a
fifteenth generation French-Canadian(Quebecois to quote you...yes!
I am one of those Quebecois you talked about!!). Luckily my parents
have been smart enough to pass on to me the Spanish language so that
I would fare better in this world and to introduce me to the richness
of my father's culture. Regarding your allusion to our helath care sys-
tem, it may have its faults but it's far better than anything you may
get downthere. I do not explicitly reply to such comments beecause
of thiir ambiguity(as always!!) and because I opted for an end to
a discussion on the subject with someone who clearly is ignorant on the
matter. Have you heard of the "tourists" who come to Canada with false
medicaid cards to receive hospital treatment??..they come from places like
NY, Detroit, Boston, New Hampshire...etc.. I just thought I'd enlighten
you!!. 
This one is for Ray: Could you please send me truckload of toilet paper
....I have been to the supermarket and the shelves are empty. Cross-border
shopping my friend is a thing of the past..but anyways what I mant to tell
you is: What on earth was your purpose in bringing it up?????
To counter your accusations agin!!. I am not a communist, anti-US or
anything similar, no way!!, I respect the bases upon which the US nation
is founded...I am just allergic to the fascist pseudo-academicians who 
have nothing better to do than to show their oofensive ignorance!!

                                          Truly Yours
                                          "El Asimilado???"
:wq

Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 15 Aug 92 09:17 PDT
Subject: IPS:Brazil: Coffee Exports
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1473800269:000:1505
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Aug 15 09:17:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: IPS:Brazil: Coffee Exports

/* Written 12:10 am  Aug 15, 1992 by newsdesk in cdp:ips.englibrary */
Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: BRAZIL: COFFEE EXPORTS RISE BUT PROFITS FALL


rio de janeiro, aug 12 (ips) -- brazil's coffee exports rose by
9.87 percent in the first six months of this year, but earnings
fell by 16.06 percent over the same period in 1991.

between january and july, brazil sold 61,740 tonnes of coffee
for 638.1 million dollars. in the same six months of 1991, 57,160
tonnes earned 760 million dollars.

the volume of coffee exports continues to be high despite
predictions for a small harvest this year -- some 120,000 tonnes.

in july, brazil exported 8760 tonnes of coffee at an average
price of 52.58 dollars per 60 kg bag one of the lowest prices in
the history of coffee production.

july's figure signals a 27 percent increase over exports
during the same month in 1991, and a 23.7 percent increase over
june of this year.

according to market experts, the trend towards increased
exports at lower prices will continue in the coming months.

the trend is blamed on the failure to re-establish a quota
system within the international coffee accord. the quota system
was suspended in 1989 and is considered essential to a
recuperation and stabilization of prices.
(end/ips/trd/so/mo-cs/eli/kb/92)
----
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:05 PDT
Subject: PERU: OAS CHIEF MAY BE BE ASKED TO
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Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Aug 14 10:05:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: PERU: OAS CHIEF MAY BE BE ASKED TO 

/* Written 12:11 am  Aug 13, 1992 by newsdesk in
cdp:ips.englibrary */ Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all
rights reserved.  Permission to re- print within 7 days of
original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: PERU: OAS CHIEF MAY BE BE ASKED TO MEDIATE POLITICAL
DISPUTE

lima, aug 10 (ips) -- the secretary-general of the organisation of
american states (oas), brazilian joao baena, who arrives here
wednesday, may be asked to mediate the four-month dispute between
opposition political groups and president alberto fujimori.

fujimori suspended the constitution and dissolved the parliament
apr. 5, announcing he would rule by decree with the army's help
for a year, in order to carry out institutional reforms needed to
overcome the country's civil war crisis.

both the de facto government and opposition political groups have
been accusing each other of sabotaging the negotiations for a new
electoral code, which would go into effect for the election of a
constituent assembly nov. 22.

shortly after fujimori's self-inflicted military coup of apr. 5,
the peruvian president had promised the oas that he would return
the country to constitutional legality through parliamentary
elections that would be held within a year.

oas had recommended negotiations among all political parties, but
so far fujimori has held such discussions with only four
opposition political groups.

the views of 14 other groups--including the social-democratic
'apra' party, which had been in power until july 1990, the popular
action party (ap) and the popular christian party (ppc)-- have not
been consulted.

these three parties accuse fujimori of trying to legitimise his
self-inflicted coup and to perpetuate his stay in power by
arranging the new electoral law in a way that would favour his
own, 'change of 1990', party (populist).

it is in the midst of such a political panorama that baena will
arrive in lima, and it is expected that he will be asked to
mediate the country's conflictive disputes, according to
analysts.

aggravating peru's political uncertainties is the country's deep
economic crisis, which involves a 13-billion-dollar foreign debt,
a sharp unemployment increase in the past 18 months and an
inflation rate which is among the highest in latin america.

peru is also facing a 12-year civil war, in which the armed forces
are fighting against two guerrilla groups--'sendero luminoso'
(shining path) and tupac amaru revolutionary movement (mrta).
(more/ips)

peru: oas (2)

more than 27,000 people have died in the long conflict, including
several thousand who have just ''disappeared'' after being
arrested by the army and police. it is generally believed they
were summarily executed. (ends/ips/tr/sp/np/al/sfi/it)
From: matomira@disuns2.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Como me subscribo a la red argentina?
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:17:51 GMT
Reply-To: matomira@disuns2.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Gracias.

-- 
Fernando D. Mato Mira
Computer Graphics Lab
Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
matomira@ligsg1.epfl.ch
From: rone@girtab.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america,news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.culture.latin-america.soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 16 Aug 1992 02:15:48 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug16.080556.16936@morrow.stanford.edu> jabba@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Richard Charles Graves) writes:
>Since soc.culture.latin-america seems to have been taken over by the mad
>alt.progressive/misc.activism.progressive/talk.politics cross-posters, I
>propose the formation of a new usenet group, tentatively titled
>soc.culture.latin-america.soc.culture.latin-america, which will focus
>on issues of latin american society, culture, and invariably politics from
>a latin american perspective.

Sounds good to me.  Actually i don't mind the igc posts so much as Harel's
posts.  I just wish they were both a LOT shorter and to the point.  Besides,
this IS a "culture" group.  Maybe talk.politics.latin-america would be more
appropriate for their posts, and leave s.c.l-a for 'culture' posts.

>If anyone from the pre-August crowd is still subscribed to this group, yes,
>I'm serious.

Since you ARE serious, i'm xposting to news.groups.  I think Harel and
David have posted just a BIT too much.  Hell, i have a killfile for s.c.l-a
for the first time...

5150
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:11 PDT
Subject: GUATEMALA: CONDITIONS NOT SAFE ENOU
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Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Aug 14 10:11:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: GUATEMALA: CONDITIONS NOT SAFE ENOU

/* Written 12:12 am  Aug 13, 1992 by newsdesk in cdp:ips.englibrary */
Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: GUATEMALA: CONDITIONS NOT SAFE ENOUGH FOR RETURN OF REFUGEES


mexico city, aug 10 (ips) -- conditions in guatemala are not yet
safe enough for the return of some 43,000 guatemalan refugees,
mostly peasants, who have sought refuge in mexico, according to a
leader of the central american exiles.

alfonso bauer paiz, legal adviser to the permanent commissions
(cp) for guatemalan refugees in mexico, warned that widespread
human rights violations and abuses against civilians still
persist in guatemala.

he said displaced guatemalans would only be willing to return
home to their communities if the government agreed to respect a
six-point plan presented by the cp.

the plan calls for the free, voluntary, collective and
organised return of guatemalan refugees, guaranteed and monitored
by international organisations, the right to land, free mobility,
and the right to organise.

bauer paiz said the refugees were demanding these conditions
because guatemala's return zones have been militarised, and
individual families who have returned have either been forced to
settle in so-called ''development areas'' controlled by the army,
or else subjected to repression in their own villages.

the legal spokesman announced that on august 25, the
multilateral reconciliation body would present a new draft
proposal to the guatemalan government for the repatriation of
guatemalan exiles in mexico.

the body is made up of representatives of the mexican
government, the cps, non-government organisations working with
refugees, and the office of the united nations high commissioner
for refugees (unhcr).

of the 43,000 guatemalan refugees living in mexico, 20,000
have settled in permanent camps in the southern mexican states of
campeche and quintana roo, while another 23,000 are scattered in
villages throughout the state of chiapas, on the border with
guatemala. (ends/ips/trd/mc/er/cg/92)
-----
From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Humanitarian, Cuba, Et Al.
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:27:10 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In <1992Aug20.173909.13211@brtph560.bnr.ca> Charles Ritz writes:

>In article <16228@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>>much drivel deleted>

>>certainly have a dictatorship, but not of the proletariat.  You have a
>>dictatorship of party beaureaucrats, the capitalist who have control over
>>production.  So what model does the "economy" of Cuba follow: state 
>>capitalism.


>   "State capitalism" is an oxymoron.  Free enterprise is
>necessarily industry that is free from government intervention.

Well we have plenty of government intervention here despite the myth of 
deregulation.  Starting with the Securities Exchange Commision and ending with 
the Federal Reserve, it seems that the state still plays a preeminent role in 
managing monopolic capitalism in the U.S.  The Adam Smith myth of "free trade" 
died away in the second half of the 19th century.  If you're interested in 
reading about the political economy behind the oxymoron you mention above, I 
reccommend any treatise by Ernst Mandel.  By the way, do you still remember 
when the market crashed a few years ago, how many states lost money from stocks 
they had invested in?   Or does it sound familiar when State politicians always 
talk about "expenditures", "balancing the budget", "allocations" and all other 
sorts of terms that are more proper of corporate America?

Edelmiro Salas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america,news.groups