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From: g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au (The Jester)
Subject: Re: Human sexuality
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:36:42 GMT

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:


>In article <1992Apr7.094613.443@cs.uow.edu.au>
>g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au (The Jester) writes:

>>Hot damn, do they teach butt finding at school?  I think I
>>missed that class.

>Not the only thing you missed, numb nuts.

:-(
-- 
\ /  /    / /  /\   | I trapped all alone in the gas station of love,
 \\/ \/\ /\ \/ \/_  | and I have to use the self-service pumps.
 / \/  /   \ \/ \   | 	--"Weird Al" Yankovic.
g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Auto-Fellatio (Re: Heterosexual Exploitation of Homosexuality?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:28:45 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, dickson@nevada.edu (JON THUMIM) wrote:
>Hell no!  We jews posses many a talent that you goyim can only hope to
>emulate.

Whaddaya mean *you goyim.*  This is one true-blue (and white) Jew here,
although not as limber as I once was.

                                                                        __
    Sim David Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3338.span@sdsc.edu \/
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: REEK! (Was Re: Deletions)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 00:45:11 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <57180@cup.portal.com> <1992Apr11.004227.24101@spdcc.com>

Steve Dyer writes:
>>Pungent maleness may be an aroma, thick musk or an overpowering
>>odor; but neither a sweat-drenched trucker nor a sun-ripened
>>Biker *REEK*.  That is a word reserved for UNIX, rotting fish,
>>Jesse Helms and certain amazingly nauseating chemicals -- like
>>putrescine, or ethyl mercaptan.
>
>Now, George, some of us have stood next to you at a bear hug...
>Let's just say I spend more time next to my Sun workstations...
>:-)

But that doesn't *happen* at every Bear Hug I go to -- YOU just
got lucky, I guess.  ;-)  Probably a Good Thing you weren't in
SF this weekend -- it was the Rainbows M.C.'s 20th Anniversary
party -- *AND* they were inducting a new member!  [Tale of sleaze
to be posted to the BML soon.... ;-) ]
 
() I may be synthetic, but I'm _not_ stupid.
()      -- Bishop (from Aliens)
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: These Boots Weren't Made For Walking
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 00:05:22 GMT
Organization:  

In article <j9sg98o@fido.asd.sgi.com> dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>>politically correct, so I bought some.  I also started looking for some
>>cowboy boots. 
>
>cowboy boots are not what you need.  You need motorcycle boots or army
>boots... Really...

Actually, I was looking for either motorcycle boots or cowboy boots, but
cowboy boots came up on the used market first. 

>>After looking at hundreds of boots, I decided that they fall into one of 
>>three categories: 
>>
>> 1) Ugly 
>
>all cowboy boots are ugly.

Well, quite a few, but not all. 

>> 2) Uncomfortable
>
>All boots are uncomfortable for the first few weeks.  Once they are
>broken in, they are very comfortable.

That's an advantage of used boots.  They're pre-broken.  They still have to
be reshaped a little, but at least they're used to the idea. 

>> 3) Expensive 
>
>Those silly pump shoes are expensive.  Boots at least last forever.

I hope so.

>>I decided that the color problem could be fixed, so I bought them and took
>>them to the shoe shop to be dyed. 
>
>black, I hope...

No, Marine (!) cordovan.  I figured I could make them black later if I
wanted to, but it would be much more difficult to go from black to
something else. 

>>So today I have a like-new pair of boots with a wonderful leather/polish
>>aroma.  But you know what?  You don't walk in boots the way you walk in
>>shoes.  I don't have the hang of it yet.  I feel like I'm going to fall
>>over, and I probably look like someone who is trying to look butch, but not
>>succeeding.
>
>cowboy boots are leather bottomed.  Because of this they are slick. 

I haven't had any leather-bottomed shoes for a *long* time.  They're
different, all right.

>Well, I recommend different boots.  Then, you can walk like me! 

Maybe we could collaborate on a new book: "Butch Like Me".

>Ah, boots... Why would one wear anything but?

I have certainly seen some attractive images of men wearing boots, a hat,
and very little else. 

-- 

------------------------------------
Jack Hamilton         jfh@netcom.com
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Big Bri)
Subject: IS OUTING ETHICAL?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:12:40 GMT

I think the subject says it all. Personally, I think it's very unethical
for gays to out other gays. I think that gays have a right to privacy. If
they want to tell the world of their sexual orientation, they have the
right to do so. But they also have the right to keep it quiet if they
prefer. I think it's selfish of some gay activist groups to violate some
homosexuals right to privacy for their selfish purposes. NOTE: I am
not a homophobe and I do not think any less of homosexuals than of hetero
sexuals. I think they have the same rights as everyone else, including
the right to privacy. You may not respect their decision to keep it quiet,
but you should respect their right to do so.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BRI FARENELL 	  is a bleeding heart liberal card-carrying member of the ACLU.
CLARKSON '95
FARENEBT@CRAFT.CAMP.CLARKSON.EDU

"Yassir Arafat had a terrible accident. He tried to fax a mail bomb...."
	---Johnny Carson
From: dfpedro@nv2.uswnvg.com (Donn F. Pedro)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Violence against us.
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:08:22 GMT
Organization: US West NewVector, Bellevue, WA

In article <9Bi7HB5w164w@penn.Gwinnett.COM> bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins) writes:
>IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
>> we need more pink panthers.  if there were any in bangor, i would
>> volunteer.  and i am going to buy a gun when i get a job.  queers
>> bash back!  or, in some cases, shoot back...  (i am too fat, slow,
>> and weak to fight a bunch of drunk asshole adolescents, but i am
>> a very good shot...)
>-just had to ask, is fighting violence WITH violence the answer?

If you want to survive.  A dead pacifist is a useless thing.
A short statement only made once.

A prepared pacifist, one willing and able to fight if need be,
makes a statement every time they act.

Warriors don't exist just to decimate populations under the 
'leadership' of countries.





     Donn Pedro ...................{uunet, sequent, pn400}!uswnvg!dfpedro.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: elf@polari.com
Subject: Re: GLB+ hangouts on the Internet
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:04:04 GMT

In article <muBwiB2w164w@batpad.lgb.CA.US>
     mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor) writes:

>I just got access to the Internet, a simple 2400 7E1 login with
>Telnet.  I played around tonight on the After Five BBS for a while.
>Pretty neat!
>
>Where are some places that are favorite hangouts for GLB* folks?

   Few and far between.  FurryMUCK, at 128.2.254.5 2323, is *very* GLB
tolerant if you're into Mucking.  All of my characters are very
queer... phobe's tend to get flamed/toaded pretty quickly.

         Elf !!!
From: jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Quebec Condoms
Date: 6 Apr 92 08:56:31 GMT
Organization: 3L Ltd, Peel House, Ladywell, Livingston EH54 6AG, UK

In article <1070@dosbears>,
drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston) writes:

> In article <4wcjzp=jfh@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
> >McDonald's Restaurants of Canada, Ltd., has obtained an injunction against
> >a small Montreal sex shop which was selling a product called McCondoms.
> 
> Reminds me of We Be Sushi, in San Francisco.  The following is from
> their menu:
> 
> WE BE SUSHI didn't start out with that name....
> 
> 	The original name was McSushi.  Our sign was up and
> we were ready to go.  But before we could even open our
> doors we received a very formal letter from the lawyers of, you
> guessed it, McDonald's.

Good grief!  They'd have fun if they tried that here.  I just
checked - about 10% of the phonebook lists people called Mc*
or Mac*.  Are McDonalds going to sue them all?

> It seems McDonald's has cornered the
> market on every McFood name possible from McBagle to
> McTaco.

Even if they restricted themselves to Mc<food>, there's
about 30 McBean's, one MacChip, several MacDuffs, Macfruits
(a fruit shop), about 50 McGhees, 15 or so McKales, a
MacPate and about 20 McSherry's.

Other food businesses include MacClung Potato Merchants,
McEwans beer, McIlwraith Bakers, MacKay Butchers, MacKinlay
Whisky Blenders, MacNairs Delicatessen, Mac's Cube Ice,
Mac's Fruit Shop, Macs Takeaway and MacVitties Biscuits. 

And there's Mac-Clean Contract Cleaning Services, MacGas
(bulk natural gas) and MacHeat (central heating). 

And, of course, there's five solid pages of McDonalds,
MacDonalds and Macdonalds, including scores of businesses:
accountants, building preservers, sheriff officers, central
heating engineers, joiners, printers, coal merchants... 
Macdonald-Ranald, Hearing Aid Practitioner and Chinese
Acupuncturist, now he must be worth a few quid...  Then
there's Macdonald Martin Distilleries Ltd... 

Sue the lot, I say!   Mind you, this being Edinburgh, you
can't spit without hitting a lawyer, as my father said.

--John
From: ra@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Starcap'n Ra)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Dancing
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:46:32 GMT
Organization: soc.motss

> > jglover@ducvax.auburn.edu proposed:
> > 
> > >   "Straight boys can't dance."

     An interesting theory.  Not true.
However, I will admit that most of the
better male dancers I know personally
are gay.

     I think one reason is that good
dancing requires a certain uninhibitedness
and ability to express one's feelings
outwardly that many straight boys lack,
or better said, have had conditioned out
of them.  And, of course, certain styles
of dancing require tights, etc.  Oh my!

     I guess it's like, you don't have
to be homosexual to be a good dancer, but
you have to be somewhat "gay."

--Starcap'n Ra       {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
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From: bn566@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ward Chanley)
Subject: Re: Are Merchant & Ivory GAY?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 03:22:38 GMT


They've lived together for like the 
last 15 years, but in an interview I
read in the Advocate a while ago
(after Maurice first came out, in 1989 I think)
the question "Are you Queer" was neither 
asked nor answered.  Hollywood can be
a town full of cha cha Queens on the
Rag for ANYone who is out (when was the last
time you saw Tom Hulce in a movie?) so
in this particular instance I can
sorta understand the urge to stay semicloseted.

-- 
"Imagine a war in which everyone won..."
Pet Shop Boys, "DJ Culture"
-----------------------------------------
Ward Chanley - bn566@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Gay is PC (was Re: Speaking to the Point)
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:43:33 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com

jfh@greenber.austin.ibm.com (John F Haugh II):
> Oh.  Gay is PC.  Sorry ...

someone please clarify this statement for me because frankly i just
don't get it.  like Vincent with the term "fascism," i used to just
ignore it -- some ignorant fuck cluelessly using a nastygram for their
own advantage.  however, i have heard 'phobes spout this trash just
once too often to let it slide by anymore

none of my gay or lesbian friends are PC -- in fact, everyone i know,
and everything i read on soc.motss blasts PC as a superficial answer to
raising consciousness.  if i look at the stereotypes in society, namely
drag queens, Men On ___ (In Living Color), bulldozer dykes, i don't
find *any* form of PC.

where is this attitude that fags and dykes are PC coming from?

-- 
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
Queer Without A Cause!
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Lip synching and stuff
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Francisco
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:43:00 GMT

> ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>A little question: What music causes you to lip-synch shamelessly when
>noone else is around (or even in public)?

Choral movement, Beethoven's 9th Symphony
"Stairway To Heaven", Led Zeppelin
"La Fleur Que Tu M'Avais Jete'e", Bizet's "Carmen"
"Every Time We Say Goodbye" (especially Mabel Mercer's version)
Brahms's Alto Rhapsody
"Mira Norma" (both parts simultaneously :-)), Bellini's "Norma"
"Too Marvellous For Words" (Ella or Sinatra)
"Strange Fruit" (Billie Holiday)
"Rose's Turn", from "Gypsy"
all of Bette Midler's "Live At Last" (I'm dating myself :-))
all of Carole King's "Tapestry" (while I'm at it :-))
all of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" (I'd better stop now...)
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld)
Subject: Re: Heinlein & Who Are Vincent's Three?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:24:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.220055.4006@agora.uucp> rickc@agora.uucp (Rick Coates) writes:
>manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis) writes:
>
>I remember vividly the book 'Red Planet', about two adolescent boys
>having an adventure on Mars.  No doubt it was my own wishful
>thinking and over-active twelve year old glands, but those two
>seemed _awfully_ close.  I loved that book.

Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>>ObMotss: Name three famous gay or lesbian SF writers (these should all
>>be Big Names in the Field). This isn't a challenge; it's too easy. 

It's a challenge for me, and I've been reading sf (but not gossiping
about it) for 20+ years. More clues, huh?

>Well, we've got Delaney (whose work I've never read...

If you only try one story, try, "Time Seen as a Helix of Semi-Precious
Stones. (The Motss relevance is subtle, but unmistakable.)  It is
a great novella - won the Nebula the year it came out, 1982?
His autobiography was good too, lots of bisexual angst.
Avoid most of his later stuff, esp Dahlgran, IMHO.

>one can only assume Marion Bradley...  so who's the
>Household Name?
>
>Rick Coates					rickc@agora.rain.com

Where did the earlier posters get Arthur C. Clarke?  I've never
heard that (and am facsinated!)  Tell me sources, please?

Sandy                  Loud, Proud, Bisexual
From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Goin' to Amsterdam
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:40:44 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Apr15.212755.16989@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca> aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>
>My ever so brilliant, big, dumb bear, being the Distinguished Scientist  
>that he is, has been invited to speak at a conference in Mikonos this May.  
>Life's tough, isn't it?
>
>En route, we are planning to spend a week in Amsterdam, so I'm looking  
>for:
>
>1) Suggestions as to where to stay, preferably in an interesting part of  
>town, i.e. "where the wild things are".

Two people from motss have already been caught up short: make
reservations in advance, PLEASE. Hotels are booked up in advance
virtually all the time. Hotel New York, about $120 a night is good.

>2) Suggestions for places to go for
>	-fine cuisine that's not too pricey.

Take a train to Bruges. Amsterdam is not know for its cuisine, though
you can get good Indonesian food. Don't let the slice of wet ham with
a raw egg floating on white bread and tomato and lettuce in the
morning for breakfast fool you.

>	-fine instant sexual gratification.

You are there with a partner, after all...?

>	-fine bars full of horny, hairy leathermen.

Give me a call and I'll take a train up and give you a jojo "I just
dropped acid and my glasses came apart in the furthest recesses of the
backroom at the argos and it took me 5 hours to find the pieces
because they are expensive Oliver Peoples antique frames and people
were riding me like a pony thank god I was wearing my rubber bodysuit,
let's get some french fries covered with mayonnaise and find the bar
with Sailors" tour of Amsterdam.

>3) An offer for accomodation? We're both relatively technical types, John  
>is 42, big and bearded, and I'm a 22 yr. old otter type that just can't  
>sit still. We're both very free with our affection and always looking for  
>fun.

-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
From: mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Pride Parades
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:20:08 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

> In article <1992Apr8.003344.26470@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com 
> Dearest, this is *THE* *NEW* *YORK* *CITY* *PRIDE* *PARADE*, and there's
> nothing that quite compares as those who saw me skipping down 5th avenue
> in my red bikini briefs pushing the radical faeries shopping cart can
> attest.

Oh, I don't know about NYC having THE pride parade.

I think there is something very impressive about a couple of hundred
queers marching under handmade banners in say, downtown Little Rock,
or Jackson, Miss.

A couple dozen in Pocatello would impress me, too.  It's easy to have
a pride parade in a big city like New York.  Not so much so in other
places.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US -- cerritos.edu!batpad!mike
[] Long Beach, California
[] TNG Quote: "You were travelling in close formation at over 80,000 kph, only
[] 10 meters from Cadet Albert, and you didn't even know his orientation?!?"
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Heinlein & Who Are Vincent's Three?
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:55:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.192237.13030@u.washington.edu> rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:

>>>If you only try one story, try, "Time Seen as a Helix of Semi-Precious
>>>Stones. (The Motss relevance is subtle, but unmistakable.)  It is
>>>a great novella - won the Nebula the year it came out, 1982?
>>>His autobiography was good too, lots of bisexual angst.
>>
>If he has any short story collections, it would likely be
>there too, it is certainly his most famous short...

Hmm ... I thought his most famous short was "Aye, And Gomorrah,"
printed in DANGEROUS VISIONS.  (His first published work?)

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Someone here suggested blue square badges for
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  straights.  Maybe we should try mauve
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  heptagons?" - Damian Cugley, on soc.bi
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From: emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Re: Derek Jacobi's Shtick
Organization: Open Software Foundation Research Institute, Grenoble
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:40:49 GMT

adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>Ghastly productions, by the way, in which he co-starred with
>Cinead Cusack -- she of synthetic charm.

           ,               ,
That's "Sinead", as in "Sinead O'Connor.  And I'm offended that you
should consider "synthetic charm" to be ghastly.  Some of my best
friends are synthetic.

,
Eamonn
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Appropriateness: Who Decides? (was Re: Human sexuality)
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:24:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: macc.1992Apr11.162457.29715
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <ku25jsINN1rf@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
barnesm@vavau.Corp.Sun.COM (Mark Barnes) writes:

>A portion of the people involved in this argument, it
>appears, know that the issue is the use of 'appropriate'
>language.

Indeed, I don't think there were very many people,
especially among soc.motss regulars, who *don't* know that.

>What many of these people are struggling with, however, may
>be over what 'appropriate' really is.  How is it decided
>what is and is not appropriate?

I think there's a useful clue in your use of the passive
voice here.  The most pervasive use of passive-voice
language is to acquit the speaker of personal responsibility
for what is said.  My point is not that you're doing so, but
rather, I would claim, that most people know, *as a result
of an inner, personal process*, what's appropriate and what
isn't.  Most particularly ...

>And who then shall be granted the task of observing people
>and pointing out instances where they have behaved
>inappropriately, and then have the authority to re-educate
>said people to thereafter adhere to the standards of
>appropriate behavior.

...  they don't really appeal to external authorities, other
than by direct social interactions with the parties most
affected.  My point here is to shift the focus from the
putative authority outside oneself to the behavior-guiding
persona within each of us.

It therefore becomes less a matter of anyone telling us what
we should or shouldn't do, and more a matter of responding
with sensitivity and awareness to the self-evident results
of our personal interactions with others.

>What the correct answers to these questions are I do not
>know.  Is one answer inherently more 'right' than any other?

I think we are not likely to find useful answers by looking
in the wrong places.  Looking for "right" is one such wrong
place, I think.  It isn't something outside ourselves, it's
something inside us.  "Correct" isn't so much the issue as
"how does it work *for me*, for the other person?"

Speaking personally, I don't avoid epithets because they are
inherently bad (in fact, I'd question whether they have any
inherent qualities).  I avoid them because it's entirely
obvious that they can cause terrible pain and suffering, and
I don't wish to be identified (rightly or wrongly is simply
not the issue) as an agent of uncaring feelings.  I know
from long experience that hurting others hurts me,
ultimately, so I see little point in being my own enemy.

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Re: Queer Humor
Summary: Just being silly.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:59:06 GMT
Organization: (getting there)

rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
 > [...] the BBC (as opposed to me >who has no definite article) [...]

I do think we should get Bob a definite article.  I have some
articles, but not any article really definite enough to suit.
Perhaps one of you has *the* definite article, and would be willing
to contribute it to the cause.

Is this Queer Humor?  Well, it's certainly queer, whether or not
it's humor.  I distinguish between queer and Queer.


-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.

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