HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: moconnor@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: nn/NNTP questions
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:28:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: ef2007.1992Apr7.142858.17065
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: "Fordz"
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.

Preface: I am not an nn user.  My knowledge of nn is quite limited.
However, I like to have a lot of newsreaders for my news readers, so I'm
probably grabbing nn.

Before I grab nn, I'd like to know a couple of things:

1.  Does it work over NNTP?  Does it require XHDR and/or NNTP Version 2
authentication protocol support? 

2.  If so, are there any modifications to the NNTP server that need to be
made for nn?  Will these modifications work with the modifications for trn's
threads?

3.  Will I have to create an nn database at the local end?  If someone
reads only a limited subset of groups, will the database have to be
created for ALL the groups?
 
I will probably run into a situation where I will have a remote user
running nn over NNTP and that will be the only user of that machine
that uses it.  I don't want to munge with vanilla NNTP 1.5.11 unless I
absolutely have to, for a variety of reasons.  I don't feel like 
recreating a database, particularly a large database, on a bunch of 
machines.

                                                ...Mike

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: garym@telesoft.com (Gary Morris @lone)
Subject: Re: .signature file name and location
Summary: nn patch to add signature_file variable
Reply-To: g@telesoft.com
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:33:16 GMT

In <5622@darmstadt.gmd.de> kostka@darmstadt.gmd.de (Bernd Kostka) writes:
>is there a way to tell nn where to look for a signature file?

>What I would like to have is something like
>	setenv SIGNATURE $HOME/dots/signature
>or in the ~/.nn/init
>	set signature ~/dots/signature

I've been working on the nn source to make a new variable "signature-file"
to let you set the name of your .signature.  It works ok but there are some
oddities with it. 

First, because (most?) inews automatically appends your .signature file, if
you ask nn to do it, you get two copies of the .signature file on your
posting.  The easiest way around this is to rename your .signature to be
.sig (or whatever) and then put "set signature-file ~/.sig" in your .nn/init
file. 

Then I setup some "on entry" macros to change my .sig file depending on what
newsgroup I was in.  Like this:

on entry
  :set signature-file ~/.sig
end

on entry rec.radio*
  :set signature-file ~/.sig.radio
end

on entry news.*
  :set signature-file ~/.sig.news
end

This works but with a couple small problems.  If you are reading a newsgroup
with nn, and decide to ":post" to another group, you get the .sig for the
group you are in not the one you post to.  Also, if you post using the "nnpost"
command, none of the "on entry" macros are run, so you always get the default
.sig file.

I have the patch complete, and have been using it for a few days now.  It
works fine for me, knowing its limitations.  Is it useful to others even
with these problems?  Should I post it (it is short)? 

--GaryM
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From: wohler@sapwdf.UUCP (Bill Wohler)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: .signature file name and location
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:04:33 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de>
Organization: SAP AG, Walldorf, Germany

>In <5622@darmstadt.gmd.de> kostka@darmstadt.gmd.de (Bernd Kostka) writes:
>>is there a way to tell nn where to look for a signature file?

  this is in the faq, although i admit i need to give this paragraph a
  proper subject.

  -----

  If you want nn to append your .signature file, you can copy nn's aux
  file (ie. /usr/local/lib/nn/aux) to your .nn directory and set the
  mail-script and news-script variables to ~/.nn/aux.  In your copy of
  the aux script, you can either specify a different place for your
  .signature file (like $HOME/.nn/signature) or you can get fancy: you
  can use specific .signatures for certain groups, or use the output of
  a program.

-----

  i just found out that the newsgroup name is available in the aux
  script in the variable "G".

  sorry gary, you didn't have to change the sources.  however, if the
  answer above is failing in some category, let me know so we can fix
  it.

Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de> <sapwdf!wohler>
Heidelberg Red Barons Ultimate Frisbee Team
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: sherman@unx.sas.com (Chris Sherman)
Subject: Re: Next release (official) of NN?
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:27:55 GMT
X-Bytes: 802

In <1992Apr9.201802.5052@wndrsvr.la.ca.us> andyb@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Andy Brager) writes:


>Speaking of new releases for nn, does nn allow you to change the
>default "Distribution: " header?  nn is a prime offender in the
>distribution problem.  It puts the newsgroup as the distribution 
>which is blatantly wrong.  So, how do you change the default
>distribution header (for everyone on the machine) and will the
>next release fix the default?

>Thanks in advance

The following in my ~/.nn/init file works perfectly.

set default-distribution world

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From: uclyjjd@ucl.ac.uk (Julian Daley)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Cross posting ?
Date: 14 Apr 92 09:24:24 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

How does one post an article to more than one
group, using nn ?

Julian.
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: Where do I find the latest nn?
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:21:34 GMT

In <1992Apr13.214422.11755@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> freeman@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jay Freeman) writes:
>Subject says it all folsk :). Also how about xnn?

The source is at ftp.uu.net in directory news/nn

There's been some discussion about xnn, but many of us feel that it's not
necessary.  Just fire up nn in its own xterm and it works fine for me...

-- 
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From: kjartan@daimi.aau.dk (Kjartan Stefansson)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: .emacs files
Date: 6 Apr 92 09:15:40 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

marosen@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Mark Rosen) writes:

>In my .emacs file, I've told it to wrap my typing, but when I'm 
>following up, or replying, or mailing, and the emacs buffer comes up,
>it apparently hasn't read the .emacs file.  Why not, and how can I
>change this, if anyone knows.

I use fill-mode for every text-mode buffer.  That is done by the
following lines in .emacs:

(setq text-mode-hook '(lambda ()
			(interactive)
			(set-fill-column 67)
			(turn-on-auto-fill)))

Then I tell emacs to enter text-mode for all nn-articles.  Here I
use the fact that these will be files with names of the form
'nn.<something>'

(setq auto-mode-alist (append '(("/nn\." . text-mode))
                              auto-mode-alist))

And finally, as someone has pointed out, make sure that your EDITOR
environment variable is set to emacs (in your .cshrc file).

Kjartan Stefansson
(kjartan@daimi.aau.dk)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: osiris@polari.com (David Ruggiero)
Subject: How to get nn to append something besides .signature
Organization: Seattle Online (polari)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 05:49:51 GMT

Perhaps I'm going about this the hard way. Our inews automatically
appends a signature on every post, which I don't like. NN can query
me as to whether I want a signature appended, which I do like. The
trouble is, they both appear to use the same file, namely .signature.
I've tried changing permissions on this file to 600, hoping inews would
skip it, but no luck.

So...if this is the best way to go about it, how can I tell nn to use
some *other* file (say .siggy) as the signature file, so that inews
doesn't see it? Or does someone else have a better idea on solving
my problem?

Many thanks to all who reply.

[signature follows!]

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: gil@datasrv.chi.il.us (Gil Ben-Noon)
Subject: Problems with GMT east of it.
Organization: DataServe LTD. Information and comm. services, Israel
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 11:06:57 GMT

Hello,

I'm located in Israel and I'm 2 Hours ahead of GMT.
The problem is when NN (or is it Cnews?) translate the time to GMT,
it allways add to it the time I wrote as offset (like -0200).
I tried to change the (-) sign to (+)  but it stays the same.
I need it to decrease 2 hours from my local time to get the GMT .

Any suggestions?

Gil Ben-Noon.

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From: dimitris@aliakmon.cperi.forth.gr (Dimitris Hatzopoulos)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: nn reports corrupted databse for all newsgroups :-(
Keywords: nn NNTP Cnews
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:38:16 GMT
Organization: Electrical Eng. - University of Thessaloniki/Greece

Hello everybody!

I've successfully used nn during the last few months, to read netnews on
the local system (a Sun4). Now I'm trying to configure another workstation
on the local network, to read netnews by means of NNTP (a reader/poster
client).

I have repeatedly tried to start nnmaster to collect the necessary info
and build its databases on the client system. It all seems to work right,
the newsgroup directories are scanned on the server and when using a debug
level, I see nnmaster going through every newsgroup ...

Anyway, when I start nn on the client system, all I get is "DATABASE
CORRUPTED for group xxx.xxx.xxx". I've run it tens of times today, but
without success :-( Here is the Log file (on the client system):

M: Apr 13 14:16 (M): Master started -r10 -e0 -E1
M: Apr 13 14:16 (M): Database validation completed
C: Apr 13 14:21 (M): Collect: 756 art, 657 gr, 296 s
C: Apr 13 14:31 (M): Collect: 61 art, 45 gr, 8 s
C: Apr 13 14:41 (M): Collect: 57 art, 46 gr, 9 s
C: Apr 13 14:51 (M): Collect: 86 art, 65 gr, 13 s
C: Apr 13 15:01 (M): Collect: 91 art, 68 gr, 12 s
C: Apr 13 15:12 (M): Collect: 62 art, 52 gr, 9 s
C: Apr 13 15:22 (M): Collect: 26 art, 26 gr, 8 s

...and the .nn directory contains these:

/var/spool/news/.nn
total 134
drwxr-xr-x  2 news          512 Apr 13 15:22 ./
-rw-rw-r--  1 news        44528 Apr 13 15:22 MASTER
-rw-rw-r--  1 news        42085 Apr 13 15:22 ACTIVE
-rw-r--r--  1 news           14 Apr 13 14:29 LAST
-rw-r--r--  1 news            5 Apr 13 14:29 LOCK
-rw-rw-r--  1 news        21922 Apr 13 14:14 GROUPS
-rw-rw-r--  1 news        21922 Apr 13 12:26 GROUPS~
drwxr-xr-x  3 root          512 Apr  1 18:55 ../

Any ideas what could be going wrong ?

Thanks very much in advance!

D.
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: ?: Folder editing
Summary: Is it possible to call an editor from nn to edit folders ?
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:22:25 GMT

Hi! Is there a way to call an editor from nn to make a quick change to
a saved article ? I'd like to be able to edit the saved information
quickly. Calling vi from outside nn tends to be a bit tedious.

Thanks for all info. Please email.

Sven
From: mvij@unix2.tcd.ie (madhav vij)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: nn problem : Saving
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:49:43 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

I was wondering , how does one save the page that displays all the information
on the articles on that page(into a file , i mean) i.e.
Newsgroup news.software.nn  
a Madhav vij 55 Question
b Tony reill 22 >
c   ............

.......
I don't want the contents of the articles saved , though !

 Thanks in Advance.

--
-----
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____________________________________________________________________
						mvij@unix2.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: sjp@cray.com (Steve Phillips (4266))
Subject: NNmaster problem
Organization: Cray Research Inc.
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:19:39 CDT




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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich)
Subject: Next release (official) of NN?
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:55:11 GMT
Organization: VISION GRAPHICS - Dover, NH - USA
X-Bytes: 728

Over time, there have been a lot of new additions, patches, fixes,
suggestions, etc., for the NN software.  I'm curious about the status
of any NEW release that will 'officially' incorporate these changes 
and possibly new ones.  Does anyone have information on this?

Also, I would like to know if someone has adapted NN to work in a
'restricted' mode for use with a BBS system.

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: yehuda@shuldig.huji.ac.il (Jonathan Berlinger)
Subject: Re: .signature file name and location
Organization: Mail to News Gateway
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:46:07 GMT

kostka@darmstadt.gmd.de (Bernd Kostka) writes:
>I.e., what do I do if I want my signature file to have any other name
>than .signature or if I want to put it into any other directory than my
>home directory?

How about making your .signature a soft link (ln -s) to wherever?
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From: gross@maxwell.ucsc.edu (Mike Gross)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Next release (official) of NN?
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:03:36 GMT

In <sherman.702955675@foster> sherman@unx.sas.com (Chris Sherman) writes:

>In <1992Apr9.201802.5052@wndrsvr.la.ca.us> andyb@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Andy Brager) writes:


>>Speaking of new releases for nn, does nn allow you to change the
>>default "Distribution: " header?  nn is a prime offender in the
>>distribution problem.  It puts the newsgroup as the distribution 
>>which is blatantly wrong.  So, how do you change the default
>>distribution header (for everyone on the machine) and will the
>>next release fix the default?

>>Thanks in advance

>The following in my ~/.nn/init file works perfectly.

>set default-distribution world

There is also a global init file for nn. It should be in the same directory
as nnmaster. This is the appropriate place to set system-wide defaults. 
Individual users can override this in ~/.nn/init.

Michael Gross
Physics Board, Univ. of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
gross@maxwell.ucsc.edu

Physics
From: vander@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (John R. Vanderpool (NASA/GSFC/STX))
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: hints for nn-6.4 on HP700/UX8.05 ???? and most recent source problem???
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:15:00 GMT
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

hints wanted for building newsreader nn-6.4 on HP700/UX8.05 ????
and help on how to make sure i'm getting the most recent source code ????

i would like to put it on my 720 running hp/ux 8.05, has anybody done it?
i'll be using another machines NNTP server

i got the source for 6.4 from one of the comp.sources.unix volume22
arhive sites (the sh file 22 part jobber) but then got a compressed tar file
from another site and it had some more files (notably a nn/conf/s-hpux7-0.h
file and the volume22 only had s-hpux6-5) and was version 6.4.16p 
so how do you know when and how to get the most recent stuff?

		thanx,
		  fish

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From: ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Wide screens question
Date: 13 Apr 1992 04:35:40 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhena.usc.edu

Am I doing something wrong -- my TERMCAP says the window is
125 chars wide but nn still uses only 80 columns.

        -ans.

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From: leisner@johnker.henr801@xerox.com (Marty Leisner x76704 siena)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Installing nn-6.4
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:46:04 GMT
Reply-To: leisner.henr801c@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox

I want to install nn a on lanned, nfs system, using NNTP (for now) to get 
articles from another machine elsewhere.

I have rrn running.  I want something better (I was impressed at what nn
does).  [I've been reading news for years using rn, but don't know it that well).

When I got the documentation for nn, I saw information about doing things as root and setuid...

My nfs disks don't support setuid...and I have precious little space on my local machine.
How much local storage is required on a 
machine and can someone point me to what has to be setuid???  I generally don't like install scripts which have to be run as root...

Thanks,





marty
leisner.henr801c@xerox.com
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(You get what you pay for -- except in software)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: freeman@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jay Freeman)
Subject: Where do I find the latest nn?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:44:22 GMT

Subject says it all folsk :). Also how about xnn?
thanks, Jay

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: newgroup control messages
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:02:47 GMT

How does one go about sending a newgroup control message for the
creation of an alt group? I don't need info on the procedures for
discussion, etc, as I have already did this. What I am interested
in is what I actually do to post the control message.

Please respond via e-mail.
Thanks.
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Next release (official) of NN?
From: andyb@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Andy Brager)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:18:02 GMT
Organization: Wonder Server - Public Access for SoCal


Speaking of new releases for nn, does nn allow you to change the
default "Distribution: " header?  nn is a prime offender in the
distribution problem.  It puts the newsgroup as the distribution 
which is blatantly wrong.  So, how do you change the default
distribution header (for everyone on the machine) and will the
next release fix the default?

Thanks in advance

Andy
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: rodger@Cadence.COM (Rodger Hughes)
Subject: Re: Graphical UI for nn
Keywords: nn user interface
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:10:22 GMT

ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:

-- < Question about a GUI for nn (which I asked) deleted > --

>IMHO it's hard to take a good textmode program (like nn) and
>dress it up in a GUI.  GUI programs can't be as powerful.
>Yes, I do suffer from the heretical viewpoint that GUIs are
>intrinsically more suited to Mac users.

>Imagine a GUI editor like Emacs.. does that make you laugh?
>Or, even funnier, imagine a GUI frontend to a Unix shell.  Does
>that give a Mac user the power of Unix? :-)

< More Mac analogies deleted >

>Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu

First, I'd like to apologize for asking a "Frequently Asked Question", on the
other hand there has been some intelligent discussion regarding GUI's.

Two points I'd like to raise.  First there is no reason a keyboard
interface must be sacrificed in order to implement a graphical user
interface.  Second, it would extremely useful to have several windows for
displaying the different views presented by nn, especially while
formulating responses and follow ups.

If anyone has any good ideas for designing such a user interface please
send me e-mail.

Thanks.
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: kris@tpki.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp)
Subject: Re: Graphical UI for nn
X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1992 Kristian Koehntopp -- All rights reserved.
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Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 21:48:26 GMT
Keywords: nn user interface
X-Excuse: X-Copyright wegen Emma, Suedwestpresse und /C'T/DISKUSSIONEN.

In <sherman.702348918@foster> sherman@unx.sas.com (Chris Sherman) writes:
>IMHO, an interface should let the user either use the mouse mostly,
>or use the keyboard mostly.  The emacs GUI interfaces seem to force 
>you to use both almost evenly, which just slows a person down.

This is off topic:

Have a look at the port of microemacs for the commodore amiga
computer that is delivered with the machine. It does not change
microemacs appeareance at all, but adds menues at the top of
the screen, that contain most emacs functions and point out the
keyboard shortcuts of the program (which happen to be the usual
emacs keys).

I have used this version of microemacs back when I had an
amiga computer and I liked it much better than the real thing.
I did not have to remember all this icky command control
sequences but could instead used the menu. But I learned then,
since they were always shown to me when I selected something
from the menu and soon I found myself back at the keyboard and
typing fast.

Don't know if this is portable to xnn.

Kristian
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