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From: hwr@intercal.com (Hanon W. Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Book Review: 107 Great Chess Battles
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:55:54 GMT
Organization: Chessnews list (chessnews-request@tssi.com)
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107 GREAT CHESS BATTLES 1939-1945, by Alexander Alekhine, 
Translated and edited by Edward Winter, 1992 Dover, Softcover, 
English Algebraic Notation, 256pp., $7.95

Whatever your opinion of the late, great Alexander Alekhine 
(World Champion 1927-35; 1937-46), one thing is certain: He 
produced some of the greatest chess books and annotations ever. 
>From the tournament books of the legendary New York 1924 and New 
York 1927 tournaments, to his personal game collections, it may 
well be claimed that no other grandmaster has maintained the 
high quality throughout the significant quantity of annotated 
games as Alekhine.

Although a cloud hangs over his activities during the Second 
World War, he did continue to examine and annotate master games 
played during that period. These annotated games were published 
in various sources, usually in Spanish. They were originally 
collected and published by Oxford University Press in 1980, but 
have been re-issued, corrected and otherwise polished for 
presentation in this excellent Dover reprint.

The material is organized by opening, and within each opening 
section, presented chronologically. Alekhine's personal 
observations about some of the masters in question are quite 
revealing, even surprising. For example, you might raise your 
eyebrows when you read the following about Jose Capablanca:

    How did it happen that he lost to me? I must confess that 
    even now I cannot answer this question with any certainty, 
    since in 1927 I did not believe that I was superior to him.

Surely, this cannot be the same egocentric Alekhine who 
maintained an adversarial position with the Cuban world champion 
from the moment he wrested the title from him?!

The annotations are good but not overbearing. The games play 
easily, and with the help of Alekhine's clear observations, 
quite enjoyably. For some reason, this book has not received the 
publicity it deserves. It seems to have been 1992's "sleeper." 
It is terrific. And at $7.95, a great value.

***************************************************************
The books which are reviewed by Mr. Russell are furnished 
courtesy of the United States Chess Federation. The views 
expressed are those of Mr. Russell and do not necessarily 
reflect the views of the United States Chess Federation. You may 
order this book and/or obtain the latest catalog of chess books 
and equipment from the U.S.C.F., 186 Rt. 9W, New Windsor, NY 
12553 or call toll-free 1-800-388-5464.

Copyright 1992 Hanon W. Russell
All Rights Reserved
***************************************************************


Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: mantiat@dmapub.dma.org (Tony Mantia)
Subject: Re: Looking for Foltys-Alekhine, Prague 1943
Organization: Dayton Microcomputer Association: Dayton, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:14:39 GMT


1.d4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 e6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.0-0 0-0 6.c4 Ne4
7.Qc2 Bf6 8.Nc3 Nc3 9.bc3 d6 10.e4 Nc6 11.ef5 ef5 12.Re1 Na5
13.Qd3 c5 14.h4 h6 15.Be3 Be6 16.Nd2 d5 17.cd5 Bd5 18.Qf5 Bg2
19.Kg2 cd4 20.cd4 Bd4 21.Qe6+ Kh8 22.Bd4 Qd4 23.Nf3 Qf6 
24.Qf6 Rf6 25.Ne5 Nc6 26.Nc6 Rc6 27.Re7 Rc2 28.Rb7 Rf8
29.Rf1 Ra2 30.Kh3  Draw.

Game #906 pg151 in "The Games of Alekhine" by
Rogelio Caparros and Peter Lahde  r
From: jay@tweekco.uucp (Jay Whitley)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: NO MORPHY STAMP?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 16:09:01 PST
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

At a F-S II newsconference in Yugoslavia, Bobby Fischer
said: "Paul Morphy, I think everyone agrees, was probably
the greatest genius of them all, and he's never even
gotten a stamp."
 
WHAT!!??  Elvis gets a stamp and Morphy doesn't?!
Seriously, this is an outrage!
From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: DMC vs. Harper
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:15:32 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1i9oa3INNflc@life.ai.mit.edu>, joltman@cookie-crisp.ai.mit.edu (T. Andy Frakes) writes:
> In article <1993Jan1.132437.775@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
> |> > By the way, anyone got a good library of rating supplements?  What's DMC's 
> |> > rating?  Elliot?
> |> 
> |> You won't find me in there. It has been too long since I have played a
> |> tournament.
> 
> Ah, but I heard that "once rated, always rated."  Why won't anyone find you
> in there?  Is it becase you have never played a rated game (not necessarily
> an indicator of skill or lack thereof)?  If you have indeed played a USCF
> rated game, you will be in one of the supplements, somewhere.  I'm not trying
> to imply  that you have or haven't played a USCF rated game.  I'm just
> noting that you seem to be implying that you have, but also state that you
> will not be found in any rating supplement.  Why is that?

As I stated before, it is because I thought someone was referring to the 2 year
listing in one of the chess rags.


> 
> ================================================================
> =             T. Andy Frakes (joltman@ai.mit.edu)              =
> =                                                              =
> = This user does not believe in smiley faces.  Insert your own =
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From: capsa@igc.apc.org (CAPSA)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Scoresheets
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:40:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:mindlink.bc.ca:19452:cdp:1451600065:000:155
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!capsa    Jan 10 16:40:00 1993


From Article 11.5 of the Laws of Chess:
  ...the scoresheet belongs to the organizers (of the chess competition -- JB)
   ...

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld
From: hastings-matthew@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU (Matthew Hastings)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: matulovic-katana match
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:58:08 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu
Keywords: chess

The match continues:
matulovic-katana
1 d4 Nf6
2 c4 e5
3 dxe5 Ng4
4 Nf3 Bc5
5 e3 Nc6
6 Nc3 Ngxe5
7 Nxe5 Nxe5
8 Be2 o-o
9 o-o Re8
10 b3 a5
11 Ne4 [leaving katana's book, my knowledge is sketchy too, I just looked
the line up in a few Informants] Ba7 [Novelty, it seems.  Everyone played 
... Bf8.  Now Black's king should be in a bit of trouble]
12 c5 [Maybe more effective here than after Bf8 even] f5 [I do NOT understand
this move at all]
13 Ng3

katana-matulovic
1 e4 c6
2 d4 d5
3 Nd2 dxe4
4 Nxe4 Nf6
5 Nf6 [Better than the alternatives, Black is still much better here] gf6
6 Nf3 Bg4
7 Be2 Qc7
8 h3 Bxf3
9 Bxf3 Nd7
10 c4 o-o-o
11 Qc2 [I don't get this move either.  Qa4 is interesting.  o-o is book, but
allows Ne5-g6-h4.  Qc2 puts the Q where is doesn't hit a7 or the d-file]
       c5 [I looked at e5, it's really interesting, but White can gain a 
clear edge in lines such as d5 cd bd5 Nb6 qf5 qd7 qd7 rd7 be4 and then b3]
12 d5 Ne5 [Getting there anyway.  And after e6 by me, I'll have a nice
solid position.  katana will not....the kingside will rapidly get unsafe
for it.]

And the best part is katana can't read this post!  Or comment on the analysis!
IMO, I have a slight edge in both games;  a bigger edge in the first, but
the position is more complex, so maybe less chance of doing well.

matulovic


Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: jswartz@mbunix.mitre.org (Swartz)
Subject: Re: Chess is a DRAW
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:27:58 GMT

Food for thought:

Chess, with perfect play, is an automatic win for Black -- White is in
Zugzwang from move 1.       


Well, I don't believe it either . . . :)


JOHN

-- 
--JOHN A. SWARTZ---The MITRE Corporation---Bedford, Massachusetts--
   "Just call me Desdinova - I'm sure to be the lucky one
   when destiny assigns wisdom - known to me, this starry wisdom . . .
   I am the one you warned me of"                     Blue Oyster Cult
From: dawes@twics.co.jp
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Novag Super Constellation strength
Date: 9 Jan 93 11:02:44 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan

	Novag Super Constellation's rating is 1807 elo on Eric
Hallsworth's list of computer program strengths. Eric's ratings all seem
to be around 100 points lower than those from Computer Chess Reports
Quarterly, so it's probably around 1900 USCF; bang in the middle of class
A - not bad.

	If, as the USCF do, we take 200 points as a difference in class,
we have the Novag Super Forte/Expert B (2010) and Mephisto Mega 4/5
(2007) as clearly stonger machines. Can anyone put a figure on a clearly
noticeable increase in Computer playing strength?

	Eric's list has 148 chess machines and programs but I don't
want to do all that typing. Can someone, however, post an abbreviated
version of Arpad elo's ratings difference and game result probability
table?

	Eric sells dedicated machines and software from the U.K, and
spends a lot of time testing and rating chess machines and software. He
publishes 6 news sheets of his findings each year but I don't know how
much it costs to subscribe. Phone +44 258 840 285 or write to: The
Specialists, PO Box 759, Wimborne, Dorset BH21 5YH, U.K. 

Peter Dawes, Tokyo. 
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: mwebb@maths.tcd.ie (Mark Webb)
Subject: ChessBase - European supplier sought
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:12:01 GMT


I am looking at purchasing ChessBase / KnightStalker 
but am unable to get any response from Chessbase USA 
-- their fax receives, but no replies are sent or no
correspondance.

Is there a European distributor someone could point me towards.

I have the demos from the 'valkryies' archives.

Many thanks.
-- 

Mark Webb	mwebb@maths.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: edd@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ed.knowles)
Subject: Re: Softwares & Ratings !
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:58:14 GMT
Summary: Sargon & Psion fo the MAC

In article <1992Dec27.235427.29156@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, dscott@lonestar.utsa.edu (Daniel K. Scott) writes:
> I'm sorry if this is in the FAQ, but I just started reading this group and
> haven't seen the FAQ yet.  I was recently given a copy of Chessmaster 2100
> for the Macintosh, and it is one of the worst commercial programs I've ever
> seen.  It crashes at the slightest provocation (usually when it's loosing).
> It does have some nice features that would make it wonderful IF they worked.
> Could anyone familiar with different chess programs for the Macintosh recommend
> a suitable alternative? Thank you.
> 

I also had incredible problems with CM2100 for the MAC. As alternatives I
found that PSION and Sargon III for the MAC were excellent programs (much
better than their DOS counterparts, at least in Sargon's case. PSION for the
MAC was almost identical to it's DOS counerpart but was much more stable).
Sargon for the MAC should be easy to find in any computer software store, I
don't know if PSION is around anymore.

                                         -Ed Knowles
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld)
Subject: Re: this has got to stop
Reply-To: hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:59:46 GMT

In article <19228@mindlink.bc.ca> Bruce_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca (Bruce Harper) writes:
>
>I like the guy who has volunteered to drive to Toledo (USCF 16something) to
>beard the lion in his den.  I'm even getting along with Sven now (a Sven-dmc
>match, which is what I originally proposed, didn't happen.  Probably Sven
>wanted dmc to play nude...)
>
Hmmm... I don't think I would risk being exposed to dmc's body odor...

	Sven

P.S. Sorry, couldn't resist. Suggestions for forming Rec.games.chess.tasteless
will not be ignored...   :-)
From: elkies@ramanujan.harvard.edu (Noam Elkies)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Volga/Benko Gambit help
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:10:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan5.161044.19030
Organization: Harvard Math Department

In article <1ibog0INNo6q@gour.chemeng.ed.ac.uk> steven@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk writes:
>Play the Nescafe Frappe Attack! Read the recent book by Graham Burgess
>(published by Chess Enterprises). For non-believers, the line goes
>
>1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c5 3 d5 b5 4 cb a6 5 Nc3 ab 6 e4 b4 7 Nb5 d6 8 Bc4, 
>
>when Black has every chance of getting his head kicked in.

I don't get it.  Why can't Black take on e4?  Or was White's 8th move
supposed to be 8.Bf4, reviving the tactical point Nxe4 9.Qe2 (x d6)?

--Noam D. Elkies (elkies@zariski.harvard.edu)
  Dept. of Mathematics, Harvard University
From: steven@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk (Steven Rix)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Knights Tour
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:56:28 GMT
Reply-To: steven@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk
Organization: Edinburgh University Chemical Engineering Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: lyne.chemeng.ed.ac.uk


In article 7373@csc.ti.com, anderson@skylitskylit.dseg.ti.com () writes:
>
>Can the knights tour be completed starting from any square on a regular
>8x8 chess board.

This is definitely possible. I think there are even cyclical knight's tours 
(eg start from a1 and end on a1).

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Question about the Petroff
From: nason@pa881a.inland.com
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:13:41 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
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In article <1i68mlINNl2r@agate.berkeley.edu>, henken@ocf.berkeley.edu (Matthew J. Henken) writes:
> 	  6 ... d5
> 
> I have a question for you sharper chess minds out there (which includes just
> about the whole group :-).  I'm looking at a particular line in Petroff's
> Defense:
> 
> 1 e4 e5  2 Nf3 Nf6  3 d4 ed  4 e5 Ne4  5 Bb4 c6  6 Qxd4 ...
                                           ^^^typo??? Bc4??

> 
> Now, the only moves for black considered at this point are:
> 
> 6 ... Nc5
> 6 ... Qa5+
> 
> These moves seem to lead to an unsatisfactory position for black.  I was 
> wondering what is wrong with the obvious 6 ... d5.
> [stuff deleted]

In MCO-13, the line I found differs from the one you posted at move 5.  It goes

1 e4 e5  2 Nf3 Nf6  3 d4! exd4  4 e5 Ne4 
5. Qxd4  d6  6. exd6  Nxd6 7. Nc3  Nc6 
8.  Qf4  g6  9.Be3  Bg7  10. Bd3  0-0

If white castles queenside on move, then this is considered favorable for
white.  The move 3 d4! is considered as a sharp continuation.  I have not found
anything in the Petroff variants that show Bc4 on move 5.   Not taking the d
pawn on move 5 may be a mistake on whites part making your 6...d5 look better
as black has good support for the d pawn and the outpost on e4. (IMHO)   

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From: u855ops12@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Patrick Blanchard)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Should r.g.c be split?
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:27:08 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne

In article <1993Jan11.070048.14078@riscsm.scripps.edu>, mcohan@scripps.edu (Max Cohan) writes:
> 
> [...] observation deleted
>
>
> how about this:
> 
> rec.games.chess - chess crap, general questions
> rec.games.chess.games - sounds redundant but discussion of chess GAMES
> rec.games.chess.novice - novice questions obviously
> rec.games.chess.programs - programs and programming
> 
> basically no .<something> MEANS misc in my eyes
> people looking for specific things will look for them where appropriate
> 
> any objections suggestions etc?
> 
> 


   Only one from my point of view. How do novices (such as myself) obtain
advice, etc. if only novices read the r.g.c.novice newsgroup?



Patrick Blanchard,
Information Technology Services,
University of Melbourne,
Melbourne, Australia.
From: 506-5054%wwiv@tweekco.uucp (Craig Jefferies #506 @5054)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Knight's Tour
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 04:55:58 GMT

Anderson asked:
> Can the knights tour be completed starting from any square?

Sure.  Koltanowski, in his blindfold chess display, let's an
audience member pick any square to begin the tour.  And the
tour I watched him perform was of the more elegant "closed or
re-entry path" type (where the Knight ends up at its 64th
square which is also a Knight's move away from the originating
square.)  Otherwise, the tour is called "open path."  So, here
is just one example of a closed path:

Sequence of order of George Koltanowski's Blindfolded
Knight's Tour, Labor Day 1992, San Mateo, California.
(Various names, cities, phone numbers on each square not
 shown here!  Starting square also chosen by audience.
 Koltanowski performed the tour blindfolded and recited the
 contents of each square which he had memorized after studying
 the board for only a few minutes.  Koltanowski has also done
 3 Knight's Tours at once blindfolded.)
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 |35 |20 |33 |48 |23 |62 |51 |60 |  8   
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+      
 |32 |47 |36 |21 |50 |59 |24 |63 |  7   
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+      
 |19 |34 |49 |30 | 1 |22 |61 |52 |  6   
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+      
 |46 |31 |18 |37 |58 |53 |64 |25 |  5   
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+      
 |17 | 8 |45 | 2 |29 |10 |39 |54 |  4   
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+      
 |44 | 5 |14 | 9 |38 |57 |26 |11 |  3   
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+      
 | 7 |16 | 3 |42 |13 |28 |55 |40 |  2   
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+      
 | 4 |43 | 6 |15 |56 |41 |12 |27 |  1   
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
   a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
89-yr old George Koltanowski is scheduled to perform another
show this Saturday, January 16, at The Winter Chess Festival in
Burlingame, California.

Incidentally: approximately how many possible Knight's Tour paths
are there?  According to Horowitz and Rothenberg's _Complete Book
of Chess_, the actual number is unknown, but is estimated between:
 Lower estimate = 122,802,512
 Upper estimate of total number of Knight's tour possibilities
  = 168!/((105!)*(63!)) = 168 units taken 3 at a time = 1.178E+47
  
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: ekw@world.std.com (Elliott C Winslow)
Subject: Re: Help!  Chess game in Blade Runner
Summary: I squirm when I see this scene.
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:10:14 GMT

In article <BOB.93Jan6130205@dolores.Stanford.EDU>
bob@dolores.Stanford.EDU (Bob Lodenkamper) writes:
> In article <HCN.93Jan6152638@calvin.inesc.pt>
> hcn@calvin.inesc.pt (Horacio Neto) writes:

>> In article <11592@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray
>> Chapman) writes:

>>> I'm writing the FAQ file for the movie "Blade Runner".  In this
>>> Imovie, there s a chess game, which probably mirrors the actions
>>> Iof the characters in the
>>> story.

I presume you saw that multi-interview in some trend-ish magazine a couple
months ago...

Is there a newsgroup regarding this movie explicitly?


>>> (stuff deleted)

> The problem I have with the Blade Runner chess game is that it does
> not make any sense (whatever the score of the full game is intended to
> be, although the Anderssen-Kieseritsky game is doubtless intended) in
> the context of the movie.

> Tyrell is supposedly a good player.  Yet, in playing a game with
> Sebastian he arrives at a position where he can be mated in two with
> checks by Sebastian.  Sebastian could not have arrived at such a
> position without outplaying Tyrell, and in that case, he would
> definitely not have needed Roy's help to finish Tyrell off.

True, true and true.  For a movie of such conspicuous credibility, it is a
gaping flaw to have screwed this scene up.  It seems to have been speeded
up or something, but they could have made it work without a stupid, flashy
mate.  Something like:

Tyrell:  So, what seems to be on your little mind, Sebastian?

Sebastian: 27. Bd1.

T: Bishop -- Now how could you even consider such a move as that?  Noone
would ever do such a ... such ... hmmmm ... That's very interesting.  I
guess you'd better come up and show me what you're thinking.


But then again, Roy is in a hurry, so it has to be mate perhaps...

"Questions ... and Answers."

Aries will be checking in shortly, I assure you...

  --elliott
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan)
Subject: Re: 2267 rating for ten year old
Organization: CIS, University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:19:17 GMT

In article <C0EAJ3.Ayo.2@cs.cmu.edu> jaa+@F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (James Altucher) writes:
>
>   
>   How old were Ilya Gurevich and Stuart Rachels when they 
>became masters. I think Ilya may have been around nine or ten. 

I'll ask Jim (Stuart's dad) about Rachels.  But the claim about Ilya is
probably wrong.  I played Ilya at the Newton Open on 9 January 1983, and
he was listed as 1977.  That was 10 years ago, and he would have been 10
at the time, I think.  My guess is that Ilya was at least 12 when he
made Master.

[yes...he crushed me.  If the game were any good, I'd post it - but it's
not, so I won't.]



-- 
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sloan@cis.uab.edu               University of Alabama at Birmingham
(205) 934-2213                  115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station 
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Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: phillies@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (George D. Phillies)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Books reviewed before their time?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:31:07 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

Some time ago, we had several review of Forbes' The Polgar
Sisters: Training or Genius and Nunn's The Complete Pirc.
My bookstore (Tatnuck and Sons, the largest bookstore in New
England; 5 miles of bookshelf, 150-200,000 titles)advises me 
that the publisher is claiming that the Forbes' title is not
yet released, and no date has been set, while the Nunn book
does not even show as "to be released".  Are these titles
available in the UK, or were the reviews premature?

The Team Echonet vs RGC match, or at least my part of it, has
started.

George Phillies
phillies@wpi.wpi.edu
From: jeff@emily1.Berkeley.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ely)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: need ride to Burlingame
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:28:26 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: emily1.berkeley.edu

My friend and I need a ride from Berkeley to the Calchess Chess Festival
in Burlingame.  We'll help pay for gas.
From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: I will accept DMC's challenge!!
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:37:42 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1iafvtINN4vd@shelley.u.washington.edu>, monaghan@cac.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan ) writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.172000.818@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>>
>>Possibly because we don't have the definitive program written yet for chess,
>>like we have for checkers. (No human can beat the programs that are out there
>>right now for checkers.)
>>
> 
> Your knowledge of current events (checker's champion is still human) is as
> suspect as your ability at chess.

Listen idiot, did I say the current champion was a computer???
NO! I said that no human can beat the programs we have out there for checkers!
It is finished. They don't even work on the programs anymore as the maximum
number of permitations is EASILY crunched by your average home PC.

Understand?

Comprende?

Your statement is the same as saying:

"Well, a man is till faster than a car becuase the world's fastest sprinter is
a man."

Christ, the way some people can leap from a simple statement into their own
(wishful thinking) version of the world is fascinating.



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