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From: aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Episode guide-- C+
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:53:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields)
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In a previous article, dsimon@informix.com (Don Simon) says:

>Yeah, but all of your examples get paid for the work they are doing,
>they are profesionals, and as such have a certain level of minimum 
>competence which we can assume, Mark doesn't get paid for his work, 
>he's doing it as a favor to all of us...if you don't like it, I don't 
>think anyone here really cares, *unless* you intend to prove that you 
>can do better.

So what -you're- saying is we're only allowed to criticize people who get
paid for what they do (professionals) because they have a certain level of
competence. And since Mark, being an amateur, doesn't *have* to have com-
petence, we can't criticize his work.

That's ridiculous.

All that's required when someone goes out of their way to do you a favor is
recognition of their contribution-- something I have already done.  I
recognize that Mark puts in a lot of time with the Simpson's guide.  I've
recently discovered (via his post) that he maintains OTHER guides as well. 
Didn't Mark, at one point, give up the guide citing too many other obliga-
tions?  All I'm saying is that perhaps someone else (someone with more
time) could do a better job.  

One other thing.  If my posts immediately put you on the defensive, perhaps
you should stop to think about why.  I'm not flaming Mark, and god knows
I'm not flaming the Simpsons-- I love them.  I'm just asking why a VERY
USEFUL tool for all of us who maintain archives of Simpsons shows on tape
can't be more clearly written.

And if you (a generic you) think the Episode guide is "just fine" the way
it is, this post is not meant for you.  It's meant for anyone out there who
might feel (even a little) the way I do.

By the way, the Ren and Stimpy episode guide is VERY good (in case you're
wondering if I'm capable of liking -anything-).
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Moral Lessons Spoofing
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:43:51 GMT

In article <BxCzED.8tI@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, pi@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert) writes:
>     Excuse me?  They already did spoof this last season!  In fact, it
   Good example. What we were thinking of were the type of moral
lessons that appear after the episode is over and before the ending
credits, and usually do not have anything to do with the episode (you
know, put there just to annoy the adult viewer :-) ). Also, we were
suggesting that some readers of this group may want to come up with
their own version, as opposed to an actual example (I must not have
made this clear in my original post). If anyone comes up with some
good ideas, post them. Have the Simpsons done any other actual
moral lesson spoofs (of any type)?


   Another question that came up was how many Simpsons episodes have
there been? I couldn't even make a guess (even though I think I have
seen them all! :-) ). Anyone know (specify the Tracey Ullman shorts
separately)?


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From: doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Oliver)
Subject: Ref. Reach
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 04:51:41 GMT

Time to start a new game on a.t.s: Who can come up with the biggest reach
in trying to find a reference in a given episode of The Simpsons.  Here's
my candidate for episode "Marge Gets a Job":

Maggie heading for the moving fan is clearly ;^) a reference to _Willy
Wonka and His Chocolate Factory_ (or whatever it's called).  Spitting image
of the seen where the boy and his grandpa start floating toward the huge
ceiling fan and only by burping can they escape.  Overall I was less than
impressed with the pisode"

By the way last wek's winner:  Maggie driving the car and the _Toonces: the 
Cat Who Could Drive a Car_ skit from SNL.

-David Oliver (doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu)
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From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: marge gets a job, or whatever it's called
Date: 7 Nov 92 03:57:46 GMT

I wrote:
>>I wonder what the original intention was with
>>respect to the timing of the premiere of this episode and the referendum.  It
>>seems more likely that it was intended to show before the referendum.  But I
>>can't remember when the referendum date was set.

pi@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert) writes:
>   The referendum was voted on 10/26.  The week before, a new epsiode of the
>Simpsons was supposed to air on 10/22 but instead was a rerun because of
>the World Series. However, I thought that episode was supposed to be I&STM.

I know that the referendum date was oct 26th.  I can't remember, however, when
this date was ***SET***.  That is, at the time that this episode was originally
scheduled, at which time you seem to concur that it was scheduled for the date
at which it eventually actually was shown, was the referendum date SET yet?
I'm saying that I would be surprised if it was, because that means that they
intended for this episode to be aired after the referendum, which makes less
sense.
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From: ziauddin@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Tasneem Ziauddin)
Subject: Re: marge gets a job, or whatever it's called
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:43:36 GMT

pi@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert) writes:
>   If in A Stretcar Named Marge, Maggie could retrive her pacifier, how
>come she couldn't clime out of the playpen now?

Probably for the same reason that Monty Burns first had no idea that Marge
was married and then thought she was married to a hunk even though he had
eaten dinner at her house before and even though she had painted his picture
in a previous episode.
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From: pi@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert)
Subject: Re: DYN 11/12 and misc. DYN from 11/5
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:21:11 GMT

In article <sheppamj.721622197@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> sheppamj@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Matthew Sheppard) writes:
>The Court scene where the prosecuting attourney asked if the judge
>knew how much chrimp Homer ate and the bags of mail were brought in
>was all too close to _Miricale on 52nd St._
                                   ^^^^ 
     Miracle on 52nd St?  You aren't talking about that movie made 60
years ago where Santa Claus comes to New York, and in the court, bags of
letters addressed to him come to prove his existance are you?  My memory
is failing me, but I'm certain that wasn't the title.  I thought it was
Mircale on 35th St.  Don't flame me if I got the street wrong... :-)
I'll know in a month when they start showing that every day on TV again.
     As a whole I liked the show.  Maybe I'm just not noticing
everything (which is why I read ats in the first place), but there
didn't seem to be as many references/"quickies" in this episode as there
usually are.  Still, it was good, solid Simpsons.
     Other things about the show... did you notice that everyone on
Homer's jury was more overweight than he was?  No wonder he got a
settlement out of court. 
     Also, when Bart's girlfriend comes to talk to him to tell him about
Jimbo, she was wearing her army coat, but when we see her in the
treehouse a few minutes later, she's all dressed up w/ lipstick.  Any
idea how old Sara Gilbert really is?  I thought she was like 12 or
something.  Then again, I haven't seen Rosanne in a few years. :-)

     One other thing I forgot to mention from last week's show... there
seems to be an animation goof when Marge first starts her new job.  Her
eyelashes seem to appear and disappear from frame to frame.  I've been
really disappointed with the animation lately.  Is it going to clear up
soon?
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From: aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!  YOU CAN FIND A REFERENCE IN ANYTHING!
Date: 8 Nov 1992 06:40:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields)
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In a previous article, dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) says:

>Do you honestly think that the writers for the show shrewdly insert
>references to TV movies from the mid-seventies so that only you and the
>five other people who saw the film could recognize that?
>
>Use your head!  These things are cliches, spoofs, genre references, etc.
>Not specific references to little teeny world you've built for yourself. 

Waitaminute.  I think I recognize this.  You're making an allusion to the
movie Network.  Yeah, that's right, because in it Howard Beal rants and
raves about how people watch too much TV and get their only reality from
the tube.  

Whew, glad I caught that.
From: ellert@ds2.uh.cwru.edu (Ed Ellert)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Asides
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:14:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Keywords: King Homer, Surround Sound

Wow, I haven't used vi in years...pardon any editing probs.

Something that's been in the back of mind, what better place, is that
nobody has seemed concerned that King Homer ate a bunch of people, 
whereas King Kong did not.  Perhaps there are other references; I have
a mental picture of one, but can't place the name...

One of the guys I work with has surround sound.  He mentioned that
when the foundation guy's level crashes to the floor, the sound was
on the opposite side.  Crash to left, sound on right.  This wasn't
the only instance, and he tested his system to make sure it was hooked
up correctly.  Any clues whether this was a goof or whether those
wacky guys were just having fun with the surround sound?

haven't used this system enough to merit a signature file.

	Ed
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From: jtteh@borland.com (J.T. Teh)
Subject: Maggie Speaks Dec 3
Originator: jtteh@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:00:21 GMT

Heard that Liz Taylor will do the voice for Maggie in the episode
that will air Dec 3. That was before she fell ill again.

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From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Miscellaneous other references and DYN's
Date: 7 Nov 1992 00:13:17 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world


^ Itchy and Scratchy: The Movie
^ -----------------------------
^ . . .
^ No one has come up with an explanation yet for "I regret nothing" as the man
^ falls off the drawbridge.

Stretch of the week:  Repeat the line in French,,

-- 
Chris Baird,,  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>
From: jscosta@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Joseph Costa)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Halloween Episode - Refs and DYNs
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:28:20 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond


  Did 'ya notice Smithers' reply when Burns suggested bringing Marge
along on the boat to capture King Homer . . .

  "Sir, you know that women and seamen don't mix . . "

Joe
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From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
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Subject: Re: Wondering about the 11/5 episode...

madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Gangster) writes:
>Did the school janitor actually say "tit" and get away with it?  =)

No, he said "teat".


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From: mcadamw@coch1.alleg.edu (William McAdams)
Subject: "Stolen Kisses" Ref in 11/5/92
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:46:58 GMT


The scene in the nuclear power factory where Homer mails the
letter through the pneumatic tube is a direct ref. to a scene
in Francios Trauffaut's (sp.) film "Stolen Kisses"(France 1968),
even the music is similar. In the original film Antoine(sp?) mails
a love letter through a pnuematic tube and we follow it as it
travels under the streets of Paris. Pretty obscure reference, (late
60's French films !?!), I'd say. 
 The song and dance number at the retirement party was lifted
from Citizen Kane, Burns of course taking the role of Kane.
  I don't understand many of the poor responses to this episode.
I thought it was hilarious, I liked the fact that this episode
did not rely on the references themselves for the humor. It seems
that sometimes the show tends to do that.

BILL




 
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From: collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: mmmm....Soylent Green...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:30:49 GMT

In article <Bx7ICn.11r@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ash50842@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Avumede) writes:
> This was in the Election Day special.  I think it's the best quote I've heard
> from the Simpsons in a long time!!
> 
> Although no one I watched with got it... so if anyone DIDN'T get it, go rush
> out and see the movie Soylent Green.  It's fairly old, and VERY good.  I 
> don't want to spoil the joke by giving away the ending, but trust me, it
> was indeed an excellent line!
> 
> -Dres
> 
   I loved this quote also. My sister even brought it up, but didn't
understand the reference, so I had to explain it to her. Am I that old?
It has been a long time since I first saw this movie! Anyone who hasn't
seen the movie will not realize why this is so funny! :-)


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From: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David)
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Subject: Re:  Ref. Reach

     I'll bite:

     Smithers' "Pleasant dreams, Mr. Jones" was originally from an episode of
_Barnaby Jones_ (private eye series starring the guy who played Jed Clampett).

                                      Dave Gillett

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From: STOLLER@dickinson.edu (Stoller, Richard)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Marge Gets a Job (11/5/992)
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:18:26 -0500
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--My initial impression is that it was a very uninspired
episode!

--On the Smithers/Burns relationship: this episode has confirmed for
me what I suspected all along...that Smithers' view of Burns is
NOT a manifestation of a general attraction to men, but rather a
particular attraction to Burns.  In other words, Smithers isn't
homosexual, he's Burnsexual (or whatever).  The distinction is,
I think, an important one...as nonsensical alt.Simpsons hair-
splitting goes, anyway.
--Rich Stoller, Dickinson College

My employer makes critical budgetary decisions based upon what
I say...if yours doesn't, you ought to wonder why.
From: Adam_Lowe@Brown.Edu (Adam I. Lowe)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Bart in Love on Thursday
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:33:48 EST
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Just heard the ad on the radio for this Thursday's show:

Nightmare of all nightmares,  Bart has fallen in LOVE!!!

Special guest Roseanne?

Sure wish I was more awake to have heard it better.

--Adam
From: DaPete@cup.portal.com (Pete o Wilkinson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!  YOU CAN FIND A REFERENCE IN ANYTHIN
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 19:46:48 PST
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//In a previous article, dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) says:
\\
//>Do you honestly think that the writers for the show shrewdly insert
\\>references to TV movies from the mid-seventies so that only you and the
//>five other people who saw the film could recognize that?
\\>
//>Use your head!  These things are cliches, spoofs, genre references, etc.
\\>Not specific references to little teeny world you've built for yourself. 
//
\\Waitaminute.  I think I recognize this.  You're making an allusion to the
//movie Network.  Yeah, that's right, because in it Howard Beal rants and
\\raves about how people watch too much TV and get their only reality from
//the tube.  
\\
//Whew, glad I caught that.

    GOOD CALL!  I had to go back and look at it again before I saw it!
I really got a good a laugh with the quote "...little teeny world we've built"
(please exuse the paraphrasing, I only read it once)  I'm really looking 
forward to the next letter that flames letters!

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From: ipgrier@compass.uwaterloo.ca (Iain P. Grier)
Subject: Historical Goof
Keywords: Curies
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:35:50 GMT


Lisa said that the Curies died of radiation poisoning.

Pierre Curie was trampled to death by a team of horses.

Marie Curie died of leukemia, which cannot be conclusively proven to
have been caused by the tons of polonium and radium that she was sifting
through with her bare hands. 

Lisa should have known better, nuclear power is the cleanest, safest
source of power known to man (except for solar, which is just a pipe dream).

This reminds me of an ad that was put out by Canada's Ministry of Energy,
Mines and Resources.  It was put out to dispell fears about nuclear power.
It started out with a quote from Marie Curie along the lines of "Nothing
is to be feared, it is only to be understood."  Funny how the ad didn't
mention the cause of her demise...

Funniest Moment for me in this episode:  "It's time for the MAIN COURSE!"
					 Hilarious when done with the 
					 Scottish accent whilst tearing
					 off your shirt.

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From: tbc@netcom.com (Mike Garvey)
Subject: Re: marge gets a job, or whatever it's called
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:01:31 GMT

>I can't believe...

Here's another one: "I can't believe it's a girdle, girdle"

(Wanders off mumbling something about and Oprah interviewing Matt and the
Simpsons was great too)

Be seeing you...
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From: feldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Todd J. Feldman)
Subject: 2 Episodes Needed - Will Trade for ANY OTHERS
Originator: feldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:13:22 GMT

Hello fellow Simpsons fan!!

I am in desperate need of 2 episodes, and will gladly trade these for any
others you may need (I have all the rest).  The two I need are:

"Bart vs. the Bully" (from the first season; perhaps not the real title)
"Itchy and Scratchy: The Movie" (from election night - our cable went out!)

Thanks VERY VERY much!

Todd
From: KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Citizen (Kane) Burns
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:27:13 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

The dance sequence in "Marge Gets a Job" was a very blatent reference to
the one in "Citizen Kane", though probably alot of people didn't catch
it. Check out the original film. The animators did a great job with
this. Of course, I'm a big Kane fan, so I'm somewhat biased!
 
Kyle C. Schiebel
From: jmv@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Jean-Marc Vezien)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: DYN ?
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:51:58 GMT
Organization: GRASP Lab



In last thursday's episode (Marge gets a job),
during the bedroom scene while Homer complaints
everybody but him get promoted, did you notice 
Marge lashes appear and disappear from time to time ?
Is it usual or didsomebody notice it somewhere else ??


JM.
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