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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:05:43 CDT
From:         Carolyn Reid <Carolyn_Reid@qmcumc.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject:      "Retrieval expert" or libra

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  OFFICE MEMO          "Retrieval expert" or librarian?       Date:4/6/92
To all,
   Some of you may have missed last night's premiere of "Mann and Machine,"
a new, network television police/science fiction show. It seems that police
detective Robert Mann had been working with an experimental, lifelike robot
partner for the past eighteen months. When the old partner is "terminated"
through an gun battle with a dwarf the "robo-cop" perceived as a child, Mann
is assigned a new partner, Eve--a neophyte who has just passed the
sargeant's exam, has never seen active duty, and, of course, is quite a
beauty. The twist? Eve is also a "robot"--a new, improved, artificial
intelligence model and, what's most important to us, she describes herself
as a "retrieval expert."
   The immediate thought that came to me--what's the difference between a
librarian and a retrieval expert? If this is to be the wave of the future,
what role do we play? Are we the developers? Are they to be our competition?
Or are we to be colleagues of a sort, working together to provide access to
information where ever and whenever it's needed?
   All I can say is, last night when I tuned in this new show, I sure didn't
know I was going to be watching a police officer being helped by a
librarian.
What do you think - - -
Carolyn
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   Carolyn Anne Reid
   Cornell Medical library
   1300 York Avenue
   New York, NY  10021
   212-746-6069  [fax 212-746-6494]
   Carolyn_Reid@qmcumc.mail.cornell.edu
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:54:58 CDT
From:         Paul Evan Peters <paul@cni.org>
Subject:      Wishing the best for all ships at sea

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Ed Vielmetti remarked on Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:44:03

> I guess it's kind of nice to hear that CNI is starting to think about
> maybe perhaps doing something with X.500 some day.  It's also nice to
> know that someone is off writing "vision statements", making the rounds
> of the lecture circuit, having many fine lunches and dinners.  But
> there are a lot of real questions that can be answered today with the tools
> we have right at hand, and for all of the talk about "vision" and
> "architecture" it'd also be nice to see some services and some code appear
> too.

I share Mr. Vielmetti's belief that "... there are a lot of real questions
that can be answered today with the tools we have right at hand ..." and I
agree with his observation that "... it'd ... be nice to see some services and
some code appear too."  The Coalition has a strategy for acting on this
shared belief and for measuring up to this agreement.  I sense that Mr.
Vielmetti has reservations about that strategy, reservations that may or
may not be relieved by additional information about what that strategy is
and the accomplishments that it has achieved.  Regardless, I believe
that the challenge of realizing the promise of the network medium for
advancing scholarship and intellectual productivity is so large that a
wide range of different strategies undertaken by diverse groups of in-
terested parties and stakeholders is necessary.  I further believe
that it is important to show respect for and to offer support to each
strategy that seeks to faciliate the evolution of a network environment that
is a livable -- indeed, a  "nourishing" -- space for its inhabitants and
visitors.

Cybernautically yours,

Paul Evan Peters
Director, Coalition for Networked Information
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:00:44 CDT
From:         "Lee Jaffe, McHenry Library, UC Santa Cruz,
              408/459-3297" <jaffe@ucscm.UCSC.EDU>
Subject:      Windows in the Library

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I did receive one answer to this question that supplied a do-able
technical solution (untried, so far).  Kristin Vogel, Alma College,
cites PC Magazine 3/17/92
p. 403 as the source.  It requires editing the system.ini file:

change line   shell=progman.exe  -> shell=[full path/filename.exe]

Her example was shell=c:\stnexp\express.exe to run STN's express
software.  She says that Windows loads your application first and
there is no access to the program manager.  When the program is
exited, Windows quits.  They have had problems with the screen
layout at that point but they're not complaining too much.

-- Lee Jaffe
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:49:15 CDT
From:         Jack Kessler <kessler@well.sf.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Newsweek almost discovers the Internet

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David Mattison and several others I fear have missed the point. When
Newsweek overlooks the Internet and NREN and CNI and all the other
wonderful efforts of our little information world, it's not necessarily
because they don't know about us, it's because we are very little in
their world. Newsweek is trying to describe and represent the full
world of networked information, which includes the BabyBells and other
giant corporations, commercial publishing, and the general US consumer
market, all linked to the global consumer market: all the adventures of
academic computing represent only a very small part of all this.

It's not that we represent an unimportant part. Much has been
accomplished by the Internet and NREN and CNI and much else in the
little academic computing world. But unless all this is promoted --
beginning now and rapidly and hard, both commercially and politically
-- I personally believe it will become lost in the oceans of commercial
fulltext, commercial multimedia (ISDN or other), and other crass but
popular and highly profitable applications about to descend upon us.
Apre`s nous, le de'luge.

Jack Kessler

kessler@well.sf.ca.us
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:41:10 CDT
From:         Chris Nolan <CNOLAN@TRINITY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Anonymous Access to OPACs

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I may be missing something here, but I understood the Internet's purpose as
being based on research and education.  I would think that this would include
one of our student's being able to walk up to a networked PC and initiate a
telnet session of her/his own choosing, rather than being limited to the
choices we might put on an OPAC menu.  Consequently, our computer center has
the telnet software on the PCs in our computer labs (open just to our students
and faculty) and we have one PC in Reference here which allows anyone to choose
a telnet or ftp site from a menu OR enter any other address known.  The PC can
be supervised, if need be, but is pretty much just a public machine like any
of our other reference workstations.

How is this different from anyone having a modem and dialing numbers either
intentionally or randomly?  Certainly the potential for hacking exists in
either case.  The responsibility for protection exists with the systems which
offer outside access, I would think, not with the remote sites which offer
their users access to the network.  Since computer "vandalism" appears to
occur with some frequency in society, I would hope that libraries install
sufficient security for their extremely valuable databases.

We have not offered such open access to the Internet for very long, so I am
very interested in other points of view.  Are other sites permitting fairly
open access to the Internet for their users, or is there something inherently
wrong with doing so?

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  Christopher Nolan                        PHONE:     (512) 736-7429
  Head of Reference
  Maddux Library                           BITNET:    cnolan@trinity
  Trinity University                       INTERNET:  cnolan@trinity.edu
  715 Stadium Drive
  San Antonio, Texas  78212
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:47:16 CDT
From:         Billy Barron - VAX/UNIX Systems Manager <billy@sol.acs.unt.edu>
Subject:      Re: Users of WAIS in libraries

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MBRENNEM@UTKVX.BITNET writes:

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------

>I would like to hear briefly from librarians who use WAIS, either for
>their own or for patrons' information.  For what do you find it most useful?
>How do you rate its performance?  How enthusiastic are your patrons about
>its performance?  Can you compare it to others, such as Gopher?

I want to clear up a common misconception.  WAIS and Gopher are not
competing products.  If you want to have Gopher index large numbers of
files, guess what you use unless you are on a NeXT?  If you said WAIS,
you were correct and get to go on to our bonus round.  :-)  Among its
other features, Gopher can act as a front end for WAIS.  The two complement
each other pretty well.

I won't answer the questions cause I'm not a librarian.

Billy Barron
billy@unt.edu
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:55:45 CDT
From:         Jim Hobbs <HOBBS@LOYNOVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Subsidizing online searching

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This message is being sent to PACS-L and LIBREF-L; please excuse
duplicates you may receive.

I asked via PACS-L for replies from libraries which have
cancelled Chemical Abstracts (CA) and gone on to subsidize
searching of CA done by chemistry department faculty or students.
Here is the summary:

There were 21 replies:  20 from the U.S., 1 from the U.K.  Those
responding that they had cancelled CA (or CA Collective Indexes
or Beilstein or Gmelin or any other major science index):  15;
those reporting no cancellations:  6.

Those subsidizing in-library searching:  12 Subsidizing outside-
library searching:  7

Several respondents hadn't cancelled any titles but were looking
closely at that option.  Several libraries have reported that
cancellation of major indexes while offering free online
searching hasn't been as costly as the indexes. Most of the
schools responding were medium and smaller sized.

Two issues were raised around cancelling CA.  One is
accreditation, the other, the cost of STN searching.  There was
some question about whether the American Chemical Society (ACS)
will accredit an undergraduate chemistry program if the library
doesn't subscribe to CA, but this does not seem to be a problem
for those who have cancelled.  There was also some question about
whether the educational discount is available to use CA on ACS's
own service, STN, after dropping the printed CA.  According to
the Dec. 1990 pamphlet "The CAS Academic Program," "Colleges and
universities not offering doctoral degrees in chemistry or
related sciences are eligible for a 90% discount on all of the
files offered through the Academic Program, without subscribing
to Chemical Abstracts." This program makes STN available "from
5:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. for each time zone in North America,
Monday through Friday."  There are additional hours on Saturday
and Sunday.  No mention is made of a prohibition on library
Academic Program accounts, though the brochure seems aimed at
non-library departments.

Many thanks to all who responded.  If anyone else would like to
respond, I'd like to hear from you, especially those who are
paying all or part of the cost for searching done outside of the
library by non-librarians.

Jim Hobbs, Coordinator of Online Services  BITNET:  HOBBS@LOYNOVM
Loyola Univ., New Orleans           INTERNET:  HOBBS@VM.LOYNO.EDU
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:51:32 CDT
From:         Bryndis <LIBBL@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      Library Science School Computer Lab Addresses

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I am trying to locate the e-mail addresses for the various library science
schools in the United States and Canada.  Specifically, I am interested in
getting information on the Local Area Networks at these schools.  (How much
they cost, what kinds are used, personpower needed, etc.)  If anyone out there
is a library school lab manager, or knows where I can locate their e-mail
addresses, please send me a note!  Thank you very much.

                     Bryndis Letzring
                     University of Missouri-Columbia
                     School of Library and Informational Science

                     INTERNET:  LIBBL@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU
                     BITNOTE:   LIBBL@UMCVMB

I am specifically interested in library school LANs because our library science
school is trying to install one!
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:52:34 CDT
From:         PF Anderson <pfa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Subject:      Advanced Imaging
              Computer Systems Forum" at Apr 8, 92 11:15 am

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Having received multiple requests for publisher information
on the cite I posted last week, I am posting this information
to the list for interested persons.

Advanced Imaging
ISSN 1042-0711
division of PTN Publishing
445 Broad Hollow Road
Melville NY 11747
Back issues $6

P. F. Anderson
Barnes Learning Resources Center
Galter Library
Northwestern University
303 E. Chicago Ave.
Chicago IL 60611
pfa@nwu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:29:52 CDT
From:         Bill Drew -- Serials Librarian <DREWWE@snymorva.BITNET>
Subject:      Libraries with holdings in agriculture on the INTERNET

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The following is list of libraries or systems that have holdings in agriculture
and are available on the INTERNET.  I am compiling this list for a guide to
INTERNET resources in agriculture.  Are there any I should add?

Please send me telnet information and anything that might be of assistance.
I will be including telnet info in my guide.

      Libraries and/or onlie sytems with collections in agriculture
       that are accessible on the INTERNET


Arizona State University
Cal Poly State University
Carnegie Mellon University
Clemson University
Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries (CARL)
Cornell University
DALNET
Florida State University System
Kansas State University
McGill University
Miami University
Michigan State University
Minnesota State University System
New York Public Library
Ohio State University
Oregon State University
Pennsylvania State University
Purdue
Texas A&M
Triangle Research Libraries
University of Arizona
University of British Columbia
University of California and California State Library at Sacramento (MELVYL)
University of California at Berkeley
University of Delaware
University of Georgia and Georgia College
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
University of Kentucky
University of Missouri at Columbia
University of Nebraska
University of Puerto Rico
University of Tennessee at Knoxville
University of Wisconsin
Washington State University and Eastern Washington University
Washington University -- St. Louis (WUGATE-- to access those that require TN3270
   .
My system only has telnet).


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 Wilfred Drew (call me "BILL")
 Serials/Reference/Computers Librarian
 SUNY College of Agriculture & Technology
 P.O. Box 902,  Morrisville, NY 13408-0902
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:29:14 CDT
From:         STRAUSS@UNCA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Novel in electronic form only?

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Fascinating!  But I wonder if one could copy it to a file, and print
the file?  I imagine there are some people now working on just the
opposite: creating books on paper that will disintegrate when/if
anyone tries to put them on disk!

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**           Bob Strauss            **
**         Ramsey Library           **
**          UNC-Asheville           **
**       Asheville, NC 28804        **
**       Strauss@UNCA.BITNET        **
**     Strauss@uncavx.unca.edu      **
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From:         Line_Cormier@UQSS.UQuebec.CA
Subject:      Do you know OMNET?

Please reply to the author, not PACS-L.  Thank you.

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Bonjour,

I try to find information about a network called OMNET. Is it really a network
or a server?

Somebody who study oceanology or oceanography ask this question to me.


Merci!

Line Cormier
Directrice d'INFOPUQ
Universite du Quebec
Canada

LINE CORMIER@UQSS.UQUEBEC.CA
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:56:20 CDT
From:         Roy Tennant <rtennant@library.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject:      E-mail addresses

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Recent discussion of locating e-mail addresses has spurred me to describe
one way I handle that problem. I have an account on a machine running
UNIX, so if you have the same environment you should be able to do the
following as well. If you use a different operating system, it is possible
that you may have some of the same capabilities but must use
different commands.

First, I send a message to the LISTSERVs that host key library lists
(e.g., PACS-L) asking it to send me a list of subscribers. The LISTSERV
command is REV (for review) and the list name. For example, to get
the list of PACS-L subscribers, you would send the message REV PACS-L
to LISTSERV@UHUPVM1.BITNET

Then, when the file arrives in your e-mail you save it as a file in your
computer account. This file can then be searched for the occurrence of
a string with the "grep" command. This UNIX command will search the
specified string in the specified file or files and display the line in which
the string occurs. For maximum recall, I use the "-i" switch with the
command, which specifies a case-insensitive string search (i.e., will
retrieve uppercase,  lowercase or mixed matches). The full command
string is "grep", a space, "-i", a space, the string you want to search,
and the name of the file (or files) you want to search. For example:

% grep -i tennant pacsl        <<=- this search retrieved this result:
rtennant@LIBRARY.BERKELEY.EDU             Roy Tennant
%

Searching multiple files looks like this:

% grep -i tennant pacsl cnidirl   <<=- note that two files were specified
pacsl:rtennant@LIBRARY.BERKELEY.EDU             Roy Tennant
cnidirl:rtennant@LIBRARY.BERKELEY.EDU             Roy Tennant
%

If you wish to get really fancy, you can alias the "grep -i" command to
something simpler, such as "f" for find by an appropriate "alias" line
in your ".cshrc" file.

Obviously, you can also use this search facility to find everyone from
a particular institution that subscribe to a particular list if you know
the appropriate string. I have used this technique to great advantage
when I misplaced someone's e-mail address. I find that many of the
persons I wish to correspond with can be found in this manner.

Roy Tennant
The Library, UC Berkeley
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:36:20 CDT
From:         PF Anderson <pfa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Subject:      Image Databases

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A while back someone was asking about image databases.
The March issue of ADVANCED IMAGING is a special issue
on that topic, with articles on robust image databases,
using scanners of various sorts, compression, etc. FYI!

Pat Anderson
Barnes Learning Resources Center
Galter Library
Northwestern University
303 E. Chicago Ave.
Chicago IL 60611
pfa@nwu.edu
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