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From: tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org (T. Mike Howeth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Quote from "The Outcast"
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:23:08 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <rccarm00.712203805@mik.uky.edu> rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:
|
|   Eloquent isn't exactly the word I would use.  Trite, obvious,
|over-simplified, and preachy all come to mind...
|

Trite: possibly
obvious: an awful lot of rednecks still don't understand
over-simplified: not in the LEAST!
preachy: see "obvious"

This episode was intended to speak to exactly one issue, and for those of us
who KNOW about that issue first-hand are happy to hear those words spoken in
prime time, even if it is trite to most of us (me included).

Please, no flames - I KNOW that other issues could be umbrella'd under this :)

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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Klingon home world
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:59:23 GMT
Keywords: Klingons

In article <1992Jul20.124733.5939@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
> In article <1992Jul17.200859.20101@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
> >In article <1992Jul17.170156.29385@linus.mitre.org>, wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:
> >> 
> >>     I got the impression, either from the old series, or one of the early
> >>     novels, that the name of the Klingon home would is, "Klingus".
> >> 
> >That would be Klingland.
> 
> Gee, and I was positively convinced that the homeworld was called
> "Camp Kling-a-wee" in episode #68.

Right.  Colonel Klingus was that guy on Hogan's Heroes.  Or do I
have that confused with something that belongs on another newgroup?
If so, sorry.

GMS
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From: jcomer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan C Comer)
Subject: Federation President in TUC
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:45:25 GMT


Sorry about my previous post--the program didn't include the text from the 
post I was replying to.  Someone pointed out that the Fed President was listed 
as being Deltan in a J.M. Dillard novel, which I noted didn't agree with the 
information in other sources (like STTMP) that Deltans are completely bald.

Jon
From: sl6wv@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: MORE STARTREK ACTOR ROLES
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:10:19 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <92197.204531SXT115@psuvm.psu.edu>, SXT115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> 
>    Although this actor is TOS, not STTNG, I thought it would be an interesting
> addition:
> 
>   George Takei:  Voice of the Japanese waiter during the Simpson's episode
>                  where Homer eats the supposedly poisoned puffer fish.
		 
It wouldn't surprise me.  The Simpson's have had quite a few famous people show
up.

BTW, I just saw a rerun of John Wayne's "The Green Beret"  I was wondering if
that was George Takei portraying a South Vietnamese general standing beside
"The Duke"?
> 
> 
>   Enjoy the thought of it!!!
> 
> 
> 
>   Shannon

		Rob "Woodchip" Horning
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From: jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton)
Subject: Spellings (was Re: reviewing art)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:09:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.161359.17532@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.3208.8444@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>>>But Otto, "Shades of Gray" (note spelling of "gray", Mr. Quayle :-)
>>>shows people the best of seasons one and two :-).  Think of it as the
>>>equivalent of the letter or number grade.
>>
>>The proper British spelling of "Gray" is "Grey" among other differences
>>like "Color" vs. "Colour".  Canadians, as you probably know, have
>>adapted the British spelling system (there must be a better name for it
>>than THAT!) as well as the metric system.  Just a bit of history for ya.
>
>How about 'The Metric Spelling System', or, the decabet!

I believe - though I may be entirely wrong - that one would call this
the "Queen's English" (or some variation on it  :)
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From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Take 2 aspirin & call me in......
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:01:04 GMT

In article <7944@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, hinson@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Jason W. Hinson) writes:
> In article <1992Jul29.081821.4767@gw.wmich.edu> adamsf@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> :Two weeks ago I saw an episode (cannot remember the name) where we found
> :an elderly couple left on a destroyed planet.....
> :
> :What is bugging me is the music that gave Troi such a headache. What was
> :the significance of the music?  The dear old all-powerful fellow left the
> :bridge, came back and said something like, "She is all right now." So???
> :Why was that particular music from the planet's surface bothering her?
> 
> It had nothing to do with the particular song. It was just the fact that
> it was continually playing in her head. Nothing she could do would stop
> it. It was even there while she slept.  That could drive anybody crazy.
>  
> -Jay

It must have been the dreaded "It's a Small World After All."  Having that
song in your head is probably the worst torture known to mankind!
:-)

Kellie
internet:matthews_K@cubldr.colorado.edu

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From: ph3@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Hamilton (phys 306))
Subject: Re: TROI IS A DOG AND SHOULD BE SHOT!!!!
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:35:30 GMT

In <gkLBoB2w165w@eisley.akita.com> ace@eisley.akita.com (Ace of Death) writes:

>    WOOOF

>             WOOF

>                         WOOF!


>               *BANG!*





>                                          *thud*


>next mission...

The first statement in the subject line is patently false. The second is 
extrordinarily insensitive. The article is nearly a death threat. I conlude
that "Ace" is a nincompoop.
From: jfriday@ada.stat.uga.edu (Paul Stacy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: President of Federation in TUC
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:11:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Jul26.171101.20690
Organization: University of Georgia Statistics Department

In article <A11337@HB.maus.de> Stefan_Radermacher@k.maus.de (Stefan Radermacher) writes:
>William C Thompson (wct@po.CWRU.edu) wrote:
>
>>Did anyone notice that the President of the Federation in STVI (the dude with
>>the long white beard) looked a LOT like one of people in the control room in
>>STIV?
>> Any idea what race he might be?
>
>According to the novel he is a Deltan, just like Lt. Ilia in ST:TMP.
>
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I thought there was quite a resemblance, but the voice was quite
different.

For anyone that doesn't know, the actor playing the president was
Clarence Boddicker (sp?) from RoboCop.





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             Staff Brown, Planet Spaceball, Starfleet Command, or the Pentagon.
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From: gerlach@yuma.acns.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach)
Subject: Re: Sirtis's English accent
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:17:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Training & Support Services, Colorado State University

Haven't you ever picked up an accent after prolonged exposure to it?
I have a slightly Southern/cowboy accent, but when I used to work on
the farm during the summer I'd catch myself picking up the accent that
some of the Navajos I worked with had.

Speech is something that is constantly changing.  We may eventually
become accustomed to a certain manner of speech, but our speaking
patterns are influenced by inumerable outside stimuli.

Pardon the .sig, but it struck me funny.

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From: kenward@cs.sfu.ca (Kenward Chin)
Subject: Re: Friendly little poker games?
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:10:11 GMT

In article <Susan_Schnitger.0678@amicol.UUCP> Susan_Schnitger@amicol.UUCP (Susan Schnitger) writes:
>  
>Easy.  Picard wins.  The captain ALWAYS wins.
>It sezso in the regs somewhere.  :-)

Yes...

(Everyone has received their cards.  Betting proceeds as follows...)

Data:   I believe I will bet 5.
Riker:  See your 5, and raise 10.
Geordi: Whoo, too rich for my blood, I'll...
Picard: ...see that.
Geordi: ...see that.
Picard: I will see that bet, and raise 1.
Data:   ....fold.
Riker:  The infamous "Picard Maneuver."  I think you're bl-
Picard: (ahem)
Riker:  ..serious.  I fold.
Geordi: I'm out, too.
Picard: Well!  You should take a page from my book (turning over cards 
	gleefully to reveal his 8-as-high-card hand) and *never*, *ever*
	surrender so easily!
	 
Kenward Chin
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Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:32:58 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Jul21.011559.25847@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
> In <711662259449@neptune.mcs.anl.gov> deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov (Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul17.082755.14506@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
>>>Sean Duncan writes:
>>>> Uh, sorry...  It's *Kronos*.  Why do people keep making this simple mistake?
> 
>>>  Because in the TNG episode "Heart of Glory," the Klingon homeworld is 
>>>  referred to several times as "Kling."
> 
>>I always thought it was "Klinzai", but I can't remember from where.  A book,
>>I think.
> 
> In the Star Fleet Battles universe, the capital is named "Klinshai".
> 

And thank the Great Bird that SFB and ST:RPG aren't "canon" or we'd be 
talking about this damn thread forever.  ("Haven is the Betazoid home planet!
FASA sez so!!")  :-)

Kling is referred to in "HoG" <oink> and it has since been retconned 
(*uncanonically*) to the name of a pre-Kahless warrior.  Got it?  Good.

> -- 
> Michael Rawdon
> rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
> University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI
> 
> No optimistic outlook survives contact with the human race.
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From: wity@IASTATE.EDU (Jean-Luc Picard)
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Reply-To: wity@IASTATE.EDU (Jean-Luc Picard)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:10:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul18.003746.15151@cs.wayne.edu>, delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu (De
Vaughn Elledge) writes:
> In article <plp1.711401174@Ra.MsState.Edu> plp1@Ra.MsState.Edu (pat parker)
writes:
> 
> >the best looking woman on TNG was minuet.
>  I have to agree 300%, she looks good!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >so there's my sexist two-cents worth.
>   DITTO!!
> >pat parker


Could someone tell me who is this "Minuet" ???

The hottest babe: Dr. Crusher!

And for the guest star is Wesley's girlfriend on Enterprise when
he was visiting the 'E' in the episode where all the crews got addicted
to a (virtual reality??) game.
Could someone also tell me her name in the episode and also her real name?


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From: vincent@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong)
Subject: Re: The Picard Family's Accent (was Sirtis's English accent)
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:50:46 EDT

Actually, I can think of a few good reasons why Picard's family in
"Reunion" had such good accents.

1.  Perception.  We hear them talking English because the translator
    module does a fine job of translation from French.  (In other
    words, we really do hear them talking French, but the script is
    translated for our benefit.

2.  Universality.  Already in our century English has become the primary
    language of business and commerce throughout the world.  This trend
    has accelerated so that by the 24th centure everyone with an educat-
    ion can speak it.
    The French, being so near England, have the benefit of exposure to
    BBC media, who (as everyone knows) have THE standard English accent.

3.  Extinction.  The French language may not be completely extinct (
    since in "Where None Have Gone Before" and the Binar episode we hear
    Picard speaking French), but current demographic trends would show
    the French language losing much of its popularity by the 24th century.

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From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Klinon Who CARES!! (RE: Deep Space Nine)
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:53:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Jul21.214300.19236@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, ogden_jon@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com writes:
> In article <711662259449@neptune.mcs.anl.gov> deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov (Ms.
> Jennifer L. DeBoer) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul17.082755.14506@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin)
> writes:
>>>Sean Duncan writes:
>>>> Uh, sorry...  It's *Kronos*.  Why do people keep making this simple
> mistake?
>>>
>>>  Because in the TNG episode "Heart of Glory," the Klingon homeworld is 
>>>  referred to several times as "Kling."
>>
>>I always thought it was "Klinzai", but I can't remember from where.  A book,
>>I think.
>>
> WHO THE HECK CARES!!!
> 
> I am so sick of the silly little arguements on this board!
> 
> Look at the facts:
> 
> 1) In ST VI the Main Klingon planet is referred to as Kronos.  That is for
>    sure.  It however, was dying and WOULD BE EVACUATED due to the explosion
> 	  the moon.
> 
> 2) In STTNG the Main Klingon planet is referred to the Klignon Home World.  
>    This is most obviously A DIFFERENT PLANET THAN IN TOS OR ST I-VI since 
>    Kronos would have had it's atmosphere destroyed by the time of TNG!  
> 
>    Some of you can't seem to realize this fact.
> 
> 3) Even if Kronos, Kling, Klingon Homeworld, etc. are all names for the same
>    place, don't we have different names for our own planet (i.e. Earth, 
>    Terra, The Big Blue Marble, etc.)
> 
> Deal with this stuff.  It's an old worn out debate.  Besides, who cares?  I
> think some of you don't know the line between fantasy and reality!


Hear, hear!!  Bravo!!!  <clap clap clap clap clap clap!!!!!>

> 
> 
> jon
> 
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From: raistlin@wixer.cactus.org (Eli Boaz)
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Subject: Re: Alas, poor Worf!  I knew him, Horatio.
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:24:07 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications

In article <18711@drutx.ATT.COM> mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior) writes:
>I've decided the reason why Worf hasn't been able to beat up anyone, except
>Durass (sp?) and Mr. Bubblehead from the Price of Watching.  The writers just 
>naturally assume that we (the viewers) think Worf is some bad-ass and if any 
>alien beats him up, that alien has got to be tough.  Unfortunately (for the
>writers), the viewers tend to be a little bit more discriminating.
>
>BTW, Worf *was* my favorite character, but the current treatment of his character
>leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.  Worf should send Alexander away to Klingon
>boarding school.  
>
>-- 

I hope like h*ll he doesn't send Alexander to a boarding school because
that means that Alexander will be in _another_ episode!!!

I'm hoping they just forget that Alexander exists... (yeah, that'll be the day)

ttyl,
Eli

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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: Guinan and Bald Men...wrt TAII
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:45:57 GMT

>>The interesting part was that her explanation was that "....a bald
>>man was nice to me once when I was hurting...." or something like
>>that - does someone remember the exact wording??
>
>No, no. She said that an android with _no_ head was nice to her when she dropped
>a pistol and Samuel Langhorne Clemens' pocket watch in a cave on 19th century
>Earth. Weren't you listening?
>
>
>-Mike.
What are you talking about Mike?  I have no idea where your quote comes
from!  I hope that it is some sort of joke, because it doesn't ring any
bells for me.

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From: jam@ecl.psu.edu
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Subject: Re: Cause & Effect:  2 questions
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:00:23 EDT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

In article <1992Jul27.170127.17282@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) says:
> 
>>Also, we have the crew of the other ship looping for 80- years, and
>>they didn't notice!  Under this Dechyon script, this shouldn't have
>>happened, but under my theoretical Guinan script, there is no problem
>>since Guinan isn't on the other ship.
> 
> I wondered that myself, but someone posed the possibility that the
> Bozeman entered a rift, which brought them into the 24th century,
> at which point they conveniently collided with the Enterprise. At
> which point the Enterprise exploded, starting the casuality loop.

	I made a previous post that explained this.
 
> This makes sense (what am I saying!), but it wasn't given time to
> be made clear. 

	Agreed, they did not spend much time talking about the cause
of the loop.  But of course they didn't spend more than half a day in
each cycle of the loop.  In one of the conferences with the senior officers
Geordi clearly states that an explosion may have created the temporal
causality loop.
	          
 
> You could still make the argument that the other ship would have
> known.  The Bozeman could have suspected something was up, but in
> the brief communication with Picard, Frazier Crane didn't reveal
> their suspicions about being stuck in a loop too quickly.  That
> wouldn't have been prudent.

	Some of the other crew probably experienced the same sensations
of deja vu, but the captain may have chosen to ignore any reports.
It was stated that the Soyuz class starship has not been in service for
over 80 years.  This means that at the time the Boseman entered the rift,
it was in its last months/years of service.  Therefore, it was probably 
the "worst" starship around meaning that Frazier was probably at the 
bottom of the "Good Captains List", ie. not too swift...

 
> I like the Guinan twist, though.  Hey!  Maybe the captain of the
> Bozeman is a descendant of Frazier Crane!  He looked just like him!
> -- 
> 
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> 
> 
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From: ph3@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Hamilton (phys 306))
Subject: Re: Other 24th Century TV Shows
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:18:32 GMT

In <1992Jul25.172443.24770@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:

>There is a 24th century TV series I just discovered called 'Logan's Run'.
>There seems to be a minor similarity here and there between itself and Star
>Trek and other SF as well. For instance, they have a hand weapon that shoots a
>blue beam and can be set for stun, blast, or kill...(sound familiar). I saw an
>episode where there were a group of people who used a machine to split
>themselves apart into good and evil sections (remember the ST:TOS episode) and
>it even looked a little like a transporter. There was another episode where
>a different group of people actually had some sort of transporter technology.
>Also they have an android. It was never mentioned if he is positronic or not,
>but I would be willing to bet that he follows the 3 laws! In one episode he
>indirectly killed a human to save 3 others and was rambling on about having
>violated the 1st law...Proof enough for me. Does anyone else know more about
>this show than I do? I just discovered it last week on a cable channel and
>don't know very much about it.

I had no idea it was a TV show; however, it was originally a book, made into
a movie. You should read the book and skip the film, if you're interested. BTW,
the book is neat enough to give a read.
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