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From: f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Source for Supra/v.32bis modem
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:17:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: jaguar.1992Dec15.171733.1
Organization: Washington State University

In article <pj-rbdm@lynx.unm.edu>, galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Denis McKeon) 
writes:

>>Supra V.32bis fax modem, latest ROMs
>>$265 + $7 s&h
>>No software, no cable.
>>5 year warranty
>>
>>mac1@ra.msstate.edu
> 
> I tried calling that guy and he never called back.  Email bounced.  Sigh.

I tried this guy and the response was pretty slow too. In the end I gave
up because I needed the SW and the cable. If you want the standalone, he has
the best price, though what sort of recourse you have if things do not 
check out is open to question.

> Supra seems to be available from only a few mail-order vendors:
> 
>     CompuAbility  800-558-0003 (in Computer Shopper)
>     S & W 	  800-874-1235 (in Computer Shopper)

There are more vendors for the mac package and the standalone but I found
most of these to be selling around $350 for the SW+cable bundle.

> When I called Computability, they were out of the $219 V.32bis internal
> SupraFAXmodems, but had bare (no software) externals at $279 (+14 s&h)
> and the external with DOS Fax s/w for $299.  S & W also had that at $299.
> 
> To my astonishment, a local vendor had the same price as ComputAbility
> for an external Supra with DOS Fax s/w - $299.  The local place also
> allows returns, so I'll save the shipping and pay the local taxes.  You
> might ask Supra (800-727-8772) for the names of local vendors and check.
> 
> I have shopped prices on this purchase pretty heavily, including on
> ZiffNet, Compuserve, PC Catalog, and Compustore Online. I haven't yet
> checked with BottomLine Distribution (1-900-420-3737, $2/min), since I
> would like to see their terms in an ad before calling a 900 number. 
> (BottomLine was in the 9/92 Computer Shopper advertiser's index, but
> their ad isn't on the page number in the index, and I couldn't find them
> in any of 8 or 10 mags currrently on the newstand. Sigh.)

BottomLine sells the SFM V.32bis Mac package for $319 (SW+cable) and the
standalone for $285. I just bought one from them. No MBG but they will 
re-stock for 15% charge. They will also replace anything that arrives
defective. The only drawback is the 900 number. As long as you have no
problems, the price is good. But just one extra phone call to correct
some hiccup will blow your savings out the window.

Richard
  _\_   Richard J Appleyard  f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
 /   \  Washington State University  
(   ) ) Voice (509) 335-7728  Fax (509) 335-9688 
 \___/  "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a computer!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner)
Subject: Re: Low Cost E-mail
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 19:23:21 GMT

In article <dfisher.1.0@aero.org>, dfisher@aero.org (donald fisher) wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of a low cost e-mail package for an appletalk (primarily 
> localtalk over phonenet) and ARA network with less than 10 nodes?

MacPost would probably do nicely, and it's free.  ftp.lu.se is the site.

--
Steve Dorner, Qualcomm, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: wlopez@vitalink.com (WLopez)
Subject: QuickMail vs Microsoft Mail
Reply-To: wlopez@vitalink.com (WLopez)
Organization: Vitalink Communications
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:30:13 GMT


We are considering purchasing Microsoft Mail for our PC community but would 
like to be able to exchange mail with our Mac community who are already on 
QuickMail.

I would like to know from all of you who may have already gone through this 
scenario, the pros and cons.

I have heard that to do the above scenario, it would require a "dual" 
gateway.  On the Mac side I would need StarNine's MailLink to MHS and on the 
PC side I would need PC Mail gateway to MHS, running Novell.

comments........

comments on document exchange..........?



or should we just go to Microsoft Mail for the Macs?


any/all comments are greatly appreciated!


Thanks in advance!

WLopez
wlopez@vitalink.com

|                       "Who Can It Be Now?"                |
From: bms@penguin.eng.pyramid.com (Bruce Schlobohm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: How to modify ARA scripts?
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:55:44 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology, San Jose, Ca

In article <16DEC199213584120@pavo.concordia.ca>, ce_rupn@pavo.concordia.ca (RUPNIK, CHRISTOPHER E.) writes:
| 	What i would like to do now is to modify an existing script. The problem
| is that i guess you need some special software to do this, as RESEDIT does not.
| 	Is there a way to modify these scripts using PD software? thank you

I used BBEdit.  ResEdit edits the resource fork, BBEdit is for the
data fork of a file.  These scripts are simply flat text files.
BBEdit is nice because it won't change the file type.  But if you change it
back, TeachText or Stevie are possibilities.

You'll want the manual for the modem very close by.

-- 
bruce schlobohm
bms@pyramid.com
From: dmeyers@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Dave Meyers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Telnet intercepting control-k
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:05:24 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Res. Inst./Modeling & Analysis Lab

Hello, all!

I'm getting some pretty strange behaviour from ncsa Telnet.
(I am now running 2.5, but it happened with an older version,
too).

For some reason, I cannot get a ^k out (ie. to emacs to kill
a line).  I've eliminated telnet intercepting ^x ^c and ^q,
which it normally does by default, and these keys have never
been a problem.  However, on just this one mac in particular,
the ^k never gets through.  Very odd.

Thanks for any help!

--David


-- 
+++ David S. Meyers (dmeyers@math.gatech.edu)  *** PGP key avail.! *** +++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: majnun@parrot.in-berlin.de (Albrecht Hofheinz)
Subject: LAN: Is there a FAQ for it?
Summary: Is there a FAQ for Mac-LANs?
Keywords: LAN, AppleShare, FAQ
Organization: Parrot Public BBS
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:34:04 GMT

Subject says it all. I've just set up a small network (linking an SE/30
with System 6.0.7, LC with 7.0.1, and a TI Laser Printer). I would like
to know what PD, S/W etc utilities are available to communicate between
the two Macs, what games are recommended, if there are any potentional
hardware problems (thank God I/ve had none so far), and, well,
everything that belongs in a FAQ.

Albrecht Hofheinz
majnun@parrot.in-berlin.de
From: Jim.Redelfs@macnet.omahug.org (Jim Redelfs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: RE: Re: Hermes Backdoor
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:50:58 CST
Reply-To: jim.redelfs@macnet.omahug.org
Organization: Macnet Omaha
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm

> ...Hermes has never had a backdoor, and it never will.
  
Excellent response, Frank.  Thank-you!
  
JR             jim.redelfs@macnet.omahug.org
From: kjh+@cs.cmu.edu (Kenneth Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: quickest file transfers with 14.4K
Keywords: 14.4k modem, file transfer, zmodem
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:10:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bz4M57.Ewx.1
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

Subject: quickest file transfers with 14.4K

How can I get the highest transfer rate over a phone line now that
I have a 14.4K modem?  Zmodem worked with my old 2400, but now it 
dies after apparently successfully sending several K.  Kermit (with
2048 (the max) blocks) and Ymodem protocols work ok but at only about 1K/s.  
(I'm talking about downloading but suspect the answer to be the same 
for uploading.)
    Zmodem will work if I use -l 1024, which tells the receiver
to acknowledge correct data after every 1024 chars.  This leads me
to believe that I'm having a flow control problem.  So, looking
in the modem reference manual, I see that by default XON/XOFF flow
control is off.  I could turn it on by issuing a \G1, but this is
ignored if error correction is selected.  At this point I realize
that I do not have a sufficiently deep understanding of the issues
involved to decide how to go with this, so I thought I'd ask here.
My guess is that I want to use the modem's hardware error correction
and compression capibilities (and not disable them to get XON/XOFF),
but how else can I get Zmodem to work at full speed?
    Q700, System 7.1, White Knight 11.12, Supra 14.4K (for Mac),
dialing in through a XLogics Annex, connecting to any one of several 
architectures with the same results.  Other info (age, height,
weight, favorite flavor of ice cream, ???) available upon request.

Thanks for any help.

Kenneth J. Hughes
Entelechy Corporation
From: mcmains@unt.edu (Sean McMains)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: ARA and data compression
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:53:56 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A757F943AC020205@isbdeskmac.acs.unt.edu>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 13: 55:15 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

In article <lamont.724702130@catfish16> Bradley Lamont,
lamont@rtsg.mot.com writes:
>This is another fault of ARA - no partial transfers - after 45 min of
>copying, it lost everything.

This may be something that bothers all of us when we fall victim to it,
but it isn't a fault of ARA. ARA isn't a file transfer utility -- it's a
network connectivity utility. It's purpose is to provide a connection to
a network remotely -- file transfers just happen to be one of the things
that can be done with such a connection. [In fact, strictly speaking, ARA
doesn't do file transfers at all. It's the Finder that does that dirty
work.] If your network suddenly fails (or you accidentally kick your
network connector out of the computer as I have often done) you don't
complain that the file transfer in progress has to be restarted -- you
just curse your network (or your foot) and do it. ARA is the same thing,
though it is more painful to have to retrace your steps because the
connection is slower.

If file transfers are all you want, you would likely be better advised to
use a normal communications program. Not only will it allow the hardware
error-correction and compression, but also will give you better
throughput, as you won't be transmitting the network protocols as well as
the file information, and will enable you (with ZModem) to resume
partially completed file transfers where they were left off.
==========================================================================
Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu>        |          University of North Texas
==========================================================================
"An open mind, in questions that are  not ultimate, is useful. But an open
mind about  the ultimate  foundations either  of Theoretical  or Practical
Reason is idiocy." - C.S. Lewis
==========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jmacphai@cue.bc.ca (James MacPhail)
Subject: Re: Modem port speed on a PB100??
Organization: Softwords Research International Ltd., Victoria, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 03:14:08 GMT

In article <85426@ut-emx.uucp> victor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (V Menayang) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.160246.25649@walter.bellcore.com> mo@bellcore.com writes:
>>Has anyone run their PB100 serial port faster than 9600 without
>>wholesale data loss??  I have a multitec portable v.32bis data/fax
>>modem with the factory Mac cable and when trying to run at 14.4
>
>I don't have any problem setting my speed to 19200
>(with a practical peripherals modem).  But, that's
>the maximum speed I can get the PB100's port to
>work with.

Are you folks talking about the "Modem" port or the "Printer" port (the
serial port on the back of a standard PB100 is the "Printer" port only)

I would like to buy an adapter that was installed like the internal modem
but would give me another plain serial port instead of a phone connection.
Do you folks know about such a device?

If not, what do you think would be a reasonable price for such a board
(I am likely to build one if I can't buy one, and would sell them if there
were enough interest to compensate me for my time)?

As far as your specific thread goes, I believe the printer port has a low
priority in terms of getting its interrupts serviced, hence you have problems
with dropped characters at high speeds due to interrupt latency. Minimizing
your inits etc. that use time on a periodic basis may help. eg. disconnect
localtalk. Sorry that this is mostly speculation.

Thanks for your time, good luck, Happy Holidays.

James MacPhail  jmacphai@cue.bc.ca  james@mirg2.phy.queensu.ca  (604) 743-2416
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: billy@sol.acs.unt.edu (Billy Barron - VAX/UNIX Systems Manager)
Subject: Re: 'comp.sys.mac.mactcp' newsgroup?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:34:03 GMT

karches@utdallas.edu (Tom Karches) writes:

>In article <1glr8lINNdka@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
>>would there be any interest in splitting off a 'mactcp' newsgroup
>>from the .comm discussion, to focus in a bit more on the IP part
>>of Macintosh networking and to leave out the ordinary asynch stuff?
>>

Wow!  A Mac group I would actually read...  Go for it, Ed.  

>comp.protocols.appletalk has been serving this need. Try posting there.

I'm in the situation where I don't care one lick about appletalk (not
even Ethertalk), but do care about IP on Macs as I support that.


Billy Barron, VAX/UNIX Systems Manager, University of North Texas
billy@unt.edu, billy@untvax.bitnet, THENET: NTVAX::BILLY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: wondertr@fraser.sfu.ca (wondertree learning center)
Subject: Z-Modem CTB Extension? Me TOO!
Summary: I'm looking for a Z-Modem CTB Tool HOW-TO
Keywords: Z-Modem CTB tools Sources
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:57:46 GMT

I have started work on a Z-Modem CTB tool... what a pain!!!
 
Does anybody have any experience with the CTB?
I'm in deep water here and I'm looking for a lifesaver....
 
What I would really like is another resource that shows step by step haw to make
a CTB File Transfer Tool.... Apple's Docs are sparce at best
(at least, they could use a little more in the way of explaination)
 
Anynhow, any help would be great
 
TED
(sinking quickly)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:42:54 MST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Smartcom II offer ?
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: mikad@bones.et.byu.edu (David P. Mika)

Even though Bill Coleman works for Hayes i must agree with him.
I have used Microphone and WhiteKnight. I finally seted on
Smartcom II. It is the easiest to use and has all the features
99% of modem users will ever need.
From: patrick@icbl.hw.ac.uk (Patrick McAndrew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Software for Kinetics Etherport SE/30
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:45:27 GMT
Organization: ICBL, Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh

We have dug out an SE/30 from a dark corner together with its Kinetics
Etherport SE/30 inside it.  However we have not found the disks that
came with the card to allow us to make use of it.  Is there any
internet reachable server that has kinetics drivers on it?  Or, failing
that, perhaps someone has one of these and could offer to encode the drivers
and send them to me?  At the moment the SE/30 is still system 6.

Thanks,
Patrick.
-- 
Patrick McAndrew                                        patrick@icbl.hw.ac.uk
System Manager
Institute for Computer Based Learning
Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh  EH14 4AS
From: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:23:57 GMT
Organization: Systems Support Center, BCM
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: j.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1992Dec16.161245.11809@gallant.apple.com>, bell@apple.com (Mike
Bell) wrote:
 
> Just out of curiosity, what problems are we talking about ? MacTCP 1.1.1 
> works fine under 7.1. And Omega SANE, well, I only know of 1 app that it 
> broke; is there some other problem ? System 7.1 has been a big win for me.
> 
I'm relatively new to the network side of Macintoshing and my office Mac II
was used as the guinea-pig for 7.1 installation.  I then discovered that it
had removed all of the improvements that Network Software Installer 3.4 had
just put in... reinstalled... ran Compatibility Checker 2.0 over just for
grins. It said:

MacTCP/MacTCP Token Ring Version 1.1.1 from: Apple Computer, Inc.
Compatible except for the following limitations:
*This software works with System 7.1 but the vendor recommends that it be
upgraded.

upgraded?

bcnu - (John Gladu)
Systems Support Center -- Baylor College of Medicine
INTERNET: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu  | VOICE: (713)798-7370
 US MAIL:  One Baylor Plaza, Houston, Texas  77030
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: America On Line <--> Internet ?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:43:15 GMT

barisajj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu (Joe Barisa) writes:

>Currently no.  In fact I do not believe that the AOL host is on the
>Internet at
>all.  All e-mail to and from the Internet goes via some other system not
>owned 
>by AOL that I am guessing is "leased line" connection.  I cannot remember
>the
>name of the company that is providing that service for them.

You're right; AOL is connected (email only) to the Internet by Performance
Systems International (PSI).  PSI is the most inappropriately named
company I've ever seen.  Their service is so poor that AOL has to post a
"Daily Mail Status" report telling everyone what the current lag time is
on incoming and outgoing Internet emails. (AOL users are also asked to not
subscribe to any Internet mailing lists, because the link just can't
handle it.)  As far as I can tell, the only reason AOL signed on with PSI
is because the two companies are physically close to each other in
Virginia, so maybe PSI gave a low bid or something.

In other groups recently I've read lots of horror stories about PSI...they
respond to complaints with  letters that basically say, "Fuck you if you
don't like our service."  I know of a couple boards who are redoubling
their efforts to get hardwired t1/t3 connections just so the can get the
hell away from PSI.  Avoid, avoid, avoid.

--Aaron

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000)
Subject: Supra Faxing  WAS: Re: XyZEL Modem 
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:41:15 GMT

In article <1gjhsrINNdu7@mohawk.cs.utexas.edu> newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton) writes:
>> This happens to me. I can only send fax at maximum speed of 4800, but my
>> ZyXEL is sending at 9600.
>
>I have found FAXing with a ZyXEL 1496E (5.0.2 ROMs) and FaxSTF 2.2.3
>to be flawless.  A supra I tried (with old ROMs) FAXed very poorly
>indeed.  Almost nothing worked.  I'd want to hear some success stories
>in this regard about the latest supra ROMs before I bought one.  With
>the old ROMs, multipage faxes and hi-res faxes did not work. 

I've sent several faxes (about 25) with the new ROMS and have found them
to work rather well.  I've had one or two occasions when the machines
could not negotiate a connection on the first call, but would on a
subsequent redial.  The previous ROMs I had worked pretty well, but not
as good as this most recent one (now works with my inlaw's Panafax which
it would not before).

One thing I've noticed in trying out 14.4 fax connections with another
Supra is that there didn't seem to be a difference in transmission time
in sending a fax at 9600 vs 14.4K.  I haven't determined the type of
computer at the other end, so it could be a software hardware problem
there, or even with the STFfax software at my end.  Anyone else
done time trials of faxmodem-to-faxmodem faxing at 9600 vs. 14.4K ?

---------------------
Jeff Parke <jeffp@vcs10.vetmed.wsu.edu>
also:   jeffp@WSUVM1.bitnet     CIS: 71511,1512    AOL: JeffParke
Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine class of 1994
Pullman, WA  99164-7012
From: roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: What's in a name (Was: Problem with Fetch 2.1?)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:19:04 GMT
Organization: New York University, School of Medicine
NNTP-Posting-Host: mchip00.med.nyu.edu

	OK, now that we know why Fetch only does one name-to-address
translation, the bigger question is what's going to happen when Aldus finds
out that their new (and very spiffy, I might add) image database/preview
application, also called Fetch, has a naming conflict with a freeware (but
also very spiffy) ftp client?

	BTW, whereas Fetch has a running dog cursor to indicate it's busy,
Fetch has a spinning bone (as in "give your dog...") shaped cursor to
indicate it's busy.

	The glossies I have from Aldus indicate that while Aldus, the Aldus
logo, PageMaker, Aldus Freehand, PrePrint, Persuasion, and SuperPaint are
registered trademarks, and Gallery Effects, IntelliDraw, and TIFF are
trademarks, and CustomerFirst is a service mark of Aldus Corportation, they
don't say anything about Fetch.  Could be interesting...
-- 
Roy Smith <roy@nyu.edu>
Hippocrates Project, Department of Microbiology, Coles 202
NYU School of Medicine, 550 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
"This never happened to Bart Simpson."
From: f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Compuserve/Prodigy/AOL/GEnie
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:43:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: jaguar.1992Dec16.214329.1
Organization: Washington State University

Just recently there has been a thread on the merits of Prodigy and
its new 9600baud service. There seem to be both praise and condemnation
for it.

I am interested in subscribing to one of the commercial nets, e.g.
Compuserve, Prodigy, AOL, GEnie, but I have no idea which one to go
with. 

Can people give me the low-down on the above. What is the maximum 
connection speed currently available? What is the monthy rate for this
and what basic services do you get for it? Are there people with any 
personal experiences, e.g. gripes, praise etc., they would like to 
share? 

I understand that Compuserve has a flat monthly rate these days, is this
true? I am interested in nets that offer a flat rate charge. I certainly
cannot afford unpleasant surprises at the end of the month. A friend racked
up a charge of ~$100 one month on Compuserve because he was downloading
overnight and it failed to break the connection after the download was 
complete. Nasty!

Please post your views so that everyone can benefit, though you can e-mail
me if you prefer.

Thanks,
Richard.
  _\_   Richard J Appleyard  f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
 /   \  Washington State University  
(   ) ) Voice (509) 335-7728  Fax (509) 335-9688 
 \___/  "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a computer!"
From: Henry.Halff@p932.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Henry Halff)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: USR Sportster 14.4 - Fax software
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:46:01 -0500

On 12/15/92, Henry Bland said the most wonderful thing to All about USR
Sportster 14.4 - Fax software: 

  HB> I'm considering a USR Sportster 14.4 modem with fax.  I need to know
  HB> what the fax software is like:

It's FAXStf, the same software that comes with many others. Works fairly well.

  HB> 
  HB> 1)	In a couple of sentences, what does the end user need to do to
  HB> 	send a fax?

Choose print from the file menu whilst holding down command and option. Choose a
recipient from your phone book or enter her fax number at the time. Press OK.

  HB> 
  HB> 2)	Can one send a single, multi-page fax to a list of phone numbers?

Yes.

  HB> 
  HB> 3)	What does the end-user need to do to receive a fax?
  HB> 

Nothing, other than ensuring that the the modem software is setup to answer the
phone.