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From: jasmith@admin1.memst.edu (John)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Special Sugar Bowl Report.
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:47:32 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University


           Alabama crushing defense will dominate the Miami
         offense, who is lead by a heisman trophy winner that 
         shouldn't have even been considered in the race for 
         the heisman.  Alabama offensive will run circles around
         the Miami defensive running the score up in the fourth 
         quarter.  Should have given the heisman to some Alabama 
         quarterback before the Miami QB.  Roll Tide Roll.
         
         A-L-A-B-A-M-A C-R-I-M-S-O-N T-I-D-E THE VERY BEST OF ALL 
         THE REST.
    
         Knock-Knock. Who's there? Could be the Tide cause they'd 
         ROLL all over you.

         Roses are red.  Violets are blue.
         Alabama the team that going to Roll all over you.

         Go Tide GO!!!!

         Tick-Tock. Tick-tock.
         The times running down on Alabama's crown.

         Cane, Cane.  Oh, what pain your going to gain from the game.

         Roll Tide Roll.

         Alabama #1. Miami somewhere underneath.
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From: irwin@uvmark.uucp (Frank Irwin)
Subject: Re: Sports Writers (wasRe: Texas A&M)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 22:17:44 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1992Dec21.175402.11928@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt) writes:
>This guy (can't remember which 
>bozo it was) was saying that UT should add another deck to the football
>stadium so it could hold 100,000 fans like Michigan since it was imminent
>that UT would soon be joining them.  What he seemed to not take into account
>is that it is very rare, like maybe once a season, that the 80,000 that it
>now holds is not enough.

It's kinda like A&M building a clock tower to make it into a World Class
University (TM).  Actually, I do believe that the tower was built at the
behest of an alum (Albritton?) who donated the money for only that purpose,
and no one at A&M much liked the idea.

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From: behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Tax 'em Aggies...
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:23:38 GMT

Sorry, couldn't help it.  I really don't mean any ill will towards the 
Texas A&M program, neither am I jubilating over the scandal.  I am sure
this is very tough on everyone involved with that program.  However, I
am delighted that most of the pressure has been lifted off of the UW program
since everyone is busy covering the TAMU mess.  
I was sick and tired of the local media (and some national) launching 
an array of torpedos at the UW program.  Some of the stuff they launched
were unsubstantiated material.  

In any case, us UW fans will have to wait a long time until the Billygate
mess is cleared up.  *sigh*

Well, I hope that the NCAA is not too harsh on either the UW or TAMU.  
Although, I do think that TAMU is going to be more penalized than UW.

-Behzad
p.s.  I will complete and post the entire Husky roster this weekend, 
before leaving to California.  The list will include numbers, names, 
height, weight, year, letters earned, and where the players are from.


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From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Re: Bowling Green
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:31:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.120047.18470@mlb.semi.harris.com> dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com writes:
>
>In article 2b328109@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu, vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu () writes:
>>'Nuff said (? :)
>>
>>I wish we had Blackney instead of Cooper. Oh well.
>BTW, seems I heard one of the announcers last night mention that Nevada
>was until recently (maybe just last year?) Div. 1-AA and just moved up
>to 1-A?  If they did that and still got to a bowl, they have nothing to
>be ashamed of!  Good job Nevada Wolfpack!
>
This is correct.  Also, I've heard that Nevada had only 5 wins over 1-A
teams and had to get a waiver from the NCAA to participate.

Dave

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From: rrm@icf.hrb.com (MURPH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Powlus update
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:58:36 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.


  Just a update on Ron Powlus from Berwick, PA. Named PA player of the year
and i heard he is leaning toward Notre Dame. The article in the local paper
has him built up to a very high level and one person was quoted as saying
"I will enjoy seeing him play in the pro's someday". Maybe a little early
to be saying that. This might open JoPa'a eyes a little bit here in State
College but hopefully Powlus will go to ND anyway. Later
    
                                                  Murph
From: bentow@cis.rand.org (Stan Bentow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WAC vs. PAC10 Bowl Day
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:06:22 GMT
Reply-To: bentow@cis.rand.org (Stan Bentow)
Distribution: na
Organization: RAND, Santa Monica CA

In article <42931@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
>
>FREEDOM BOWL: Fresno St 24  U$C 7

>Larry Smith's job is in serious danger here. The U$C alumni were out for
>blood after the UCLA loss, and then the ND game didn't help any, and 
>now this.

I hate to admit this, but I was hoping SC would get whipped by FSU.  In
the past I've given Larry Smith the benefit of the doubt, but after
watching the UCLA and ND games (horrible play calling, and what seems a
lack of intensity by the players which I blame Smith's coaching style
for), I really think Larry Smith has got to go.  SC beating FSU wouldn't
have done much to further this end, but a whipping like this will
hopefully go far.  As for a successor, isn't John Robinson looking for a
job?

Stan
From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Copper Bowl
Date: 29 Dec 1992 20:53:55 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
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In article <28964@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
>Oh, yes, those of you watching the Copper Bowl on ESPN will probably
>see my wife and I on TV.  I've made up a nice sign that has Cougar 
>emblems on the corners and then in the middle reads
>
>	Earn
>	Six
>	Points
>	Now!!
>
>Oh, yes, I plan to show the sign only when the Cougars have
>the football!  :-}

What?  Why not let the Cougar defense score a few TD's as well?

****************************************************************************
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Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   There is no such thing as "rock bottom".
University of Washington      *   
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: Jeff Singleton <j.d.singleton@larc.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Trivia Answers
Date: 21 Dec 1992 14:57:17 GMT
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Subject: Re: Trivia Answers
From: Ramana Kolluri, kollur@jec320.its.rpi.edu
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:40:23 GMT
In article <=0n2b_k@rpi.edu> Ramana Kolluri, kollur@jec320.its.rpi.edu
writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.183133.25006@b11.b11.ingr.com>
jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com writes:
>>The answers to my trivia Questions:
>>
>>
>> 3.  Who has the oldest on campus stadium (I don't know the answer)?
>>
>>  Still don't know.  Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kyle Field and Notre Dame's
have been
>>  mentioned.  Only Kyle Field has been presented with proof to back up
their
>>  claim.
>
>I remember looking this up in a sports alamanac and Georgia Tech (1917)
>seemed like the oldest around atleast for Div I A schools. 
>
>Bonus Question: Who has the *newest* on-campus stadium of all Div 1A
schools?
>
>Ramana
>


     Well, Mountaineer Field at WVU opened in 1980.  Technically, it is
on-campus,
  though it's not on the main campus in Morgantown.  For the curious,
it's on the
  Evansdale (Med Center) campus.  If your not limiting it to football
stadiums, then
  I would think the Dean Dome could be the newest, or maybe the new
UMASS!!!
  facility.


     jeff singleton
From: cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (                               )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Gino Who???
Date: 2 Jan 1993 23:34:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

It has been mentioned that Gino was not performing well in the "pressure
games" this season by some previous posts. Can some one give a summary
of his performance against top 10 or 20 teams?
From: sl45z@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best pro prospect.
Date: 2 Jan 93 10:46:10 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Dec30.054316.3896@schbbs.mot.com>, C14577@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Debra Sullivan) writes:
>>Marvin Jones: Maybe a Patriot next year. No idea who will be Seattle fist
>>pick next year. He will have to be an offensive player. Hearst maybe.

	I think I can assume you missed the Copper Bowl by the above
statemt.  Seattle will almost definately be looking at Drew Bledsoe out of WSU
WSU.
 
>>I see Torretta going to a Minnesota or a Denver. Elway I'm sure will ge
>>hurt again.
> 
>>Who are some other good prospects?
> 
> Chuckie Dukes, Boston College
> Glen Foley, has another year but will be a good pick for someone.
> 
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From: crespo@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com (Ivan Crespo)
Subject: Re: Cougars Copper Bowl Victors!
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:10:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Vancouver Division Vancouver,WA


> The Utes certainly deserve credit, and this was
> certainly much closer than I would have liked it, but we know what 
> they call a win by 3 points... a win.

The Utes deserve credit???

I thought the Utes deserved the win!!! 

On the other hand maybe if you have a 1st and goal at your opponent's
5 yard and you can't punch it in you don't deserve anything....

Anyway, I think the Utes played very well and that they got outcoached
at the end. 

i. 
--

- Me? 
- Defending the Utes? 
- I am sorry you must have me confused with someone else...
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From: zcjm0f@wwnv67.hou.amoco.com (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: Special Sugar Bowl Report.
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:42:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.154732.4767@admin1.memst.edu> jasmith@admin1.memst.edu (John) writes:
>           Alabama crushing defense will dominate the Miami
>         offense, who is lead by a heisman trophy winner that 
>         shouldn't have even been considered in the race for 
>         the heisman.  Alabama offensive will run circles around
>         the Miami defensive running the score up in the fourth 
>         quarter.  Should have given the heisman to some Alabama 
>         quarterback before the Miami QB.  Roll Tide Roll.
>         
>         A-L-A-B-A-M-A C-R-I-M-S-O-N T-I-D-E THE VERY BEST OF ALL 
>         THE REST.
>    
>         Knock-Knock. Who's there? Could be the Tide cause they'd 
>         ROLL all over you.
>
>         Roses are red.  Violets are blue.
>         Alabama the team that going to Roll all over you.
>
>         Go Tide GO!!!!
>
>         Tick-Tock. Tick-tock.
>         The times running down on Alabama's crown.
>
>         Cane, Cane.  Oh, what pain your going to gain from the game.
>
>         Roll Tide Roll.
>
>         Alabama #1. Miami somewhere underneath.

well, I was pulling for 'Bama before this article...  :-)

TIE, TIE, TIDE!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zcjm0f@wwnv67.hou.amoco.com (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: Texas A&M
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:23:12 GMT

>|> > 
>|> > If true, the allegations could spell prison for the booster (Uncle Sam doesn't 
>|> > take kindly to being bilked by non-congress types) and could subject the A&M 
>|> > football squad to the NCAA "death penalty."
>|>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> This can't be true can it?  aTm subject to the DEATH PENALTY, as in the same
>|> one that SMU got?  Doesn't this seem a bit severe for a couple of grand a
>|> month to a small number of players?  Wow.
>



>Texas A&M was on probation when these infractions occured.  This makes
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^
>them eligible for the "death penalty".  The booster should have known
>better.  What a clod.





Oh, the old "guilty until proven innocent routine?"  :-)

Word is, A&M is evaluating it's legal options for retribution against
these claims that have so far proven to be false.  (as far as NCAA
violations are concerned).  Gilbert is going (should) be strung up 
by HUD, et alia.

I wish the NCAA would join in the suit.  The DMN deserves it.  Ask 
anyone associated with any school within 400 miles of Dallas about
how many "breaking stories" on their school the DMN has published and
wound up bing hogwash.

>
>|> 
>|> > 
>|> > I hope for A&M's sake it all blows over.
>
>Even though I hate A&M, I have to agree.
>
>|> >      - Pat
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>|> > - pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ------------------------------------------
>|> -- 
>|> Note: All opinions/positions expressed here are independent of my employer's 
>|> John Dodson                    internet: jpd@austin.ibm.com
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>
>Mike Noonan


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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 20:18:40 MST
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Kansas TD play legal?
Distribution: usa
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: mikad@bones.et.byu.edu (David P. Mika)

We all thought that it was illegal.
Oh well...
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From: applcore@utkvx2.utk.edu (Core, Andrew)
Subject: Re: Stadium Survey
Summary: Stadium Survey
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Stadium
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 04:34:00 GMT

In article <Terry.Houser.28@um.cc.umich.edu>, Terry.Houser@um.cc.umich.edu (Terence Houser) writes...
>I agree lets NOT forget the largest football statium in these 
>United States.
> 
>MICHIGAN STADIUM  102,000 +  no smoking,drinking (bummer).		
> 
>One has not been to a real football game until they have seen	
>almost 107,000 fans packed into a stadium that fits only 102,000!

Well, I've seen 97,000 in a stadium that seats 91,000...does that count?  :)

Anyway, Neyland Stadium allows no drinking, which may come as a surprise to
anyone who has bee to a game.  And no smoking starting next year.

I wish they'd close off the north end - that would surely add another 15,000
seats.
_
Go Vols!
Andrew Core
applcore@utkvx.utk.edu
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Protest over FSU Mascot
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:28:27 GMT

conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt) writes:

> . . .  Just think about all the poor cows around Austin who
>are reminded of their long horns every time a local sports team plays.  Did
>you know that the long horns are actually a birth defect?  How do you think
>it makes those poor cows feel?  First they lose their manliness and then
>they're reminded of their birth defect (smileys inserted here for the
>humor-impaired).  



This is NOT to be politically correct, but, cows are females of the
bovine species, bulls or steers are the males.  Don't flame this poor
old farm boy on this one, but I just HAD to stick in my $.02 worth!  =)

allen
From: valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: USC should drop the ND series
Date: 21 Dec 1992 18:51:33 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: spica.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec21.165249.28430@watson.ibm.com> TJFAN@WATSON.IBM.COM writes:
>In <1992Dec19.194433.18039@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>>
>>What USC needs is an inovative coach like a John McKay (but one who can keep 
>>the program within the rules.)  McKay learned quickly what was winning ball 
>>games in the early/mid sixties and started recruiting size.  He changed the way
>>that football was played at USC and installed an offensive system which lead to
>>several Heisman trophy winner running backs.  He did all this after getting 
>>waxed by Notre Dame (most notably in 1966.)


>Are you suggesting that Larry Smith should be replaced? Just curious, how most
>of fans think of Larry Smith as a USC Coach?

I feel that he is a good coach as weel as a good person, but there are areas
that will have to show improvement in order for SC to return to their "Glory
Days"

1. Clock Management: (Needs to use time outs more wisely both in the first and
                     second half).

2. Lack of a Running Game: Has mostly contributed to making the offense more
                           predictable and Rob Johnson a constant target. You
                           can also blame this on poor recruiting in this area.

3. Shuffling of Players: The constant shuffling of players after EVERY play,
                         has caused more harm than good. Smith claimed before
                         the begining of the season, that he was going to simp-
                         lify the offense a bit, but have seen liitle evidence
                         of this.

 He got USC back to the Rose Bowl
>for 3 straight years and was elected as "Pac-10 Coach of the Year" for 2 
>consecutive years in 1988 and 89.

Yes he did, he also should be given credit on getting the players back to the
classroom to where 70-80% of the players have been projected to graduate,in
comparison to 33% back in the Robinson years. But alot of the credit for his
early success should be given to players that Ted Tolliner recruited.
>
As far as a overall opinion on wether Smith should (or will) be fired, due to
AD McGee leaving, alot will depend on who is hired and on how SC will look next
week against Fresno St. My guess is that they will give him one more year.

Valdis




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From: aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Oranges in a Bowl of Fruits
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: An Ol Ag surrounded by a bunch of unfriendly Seminoles
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 03:24:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.110909@trc.amoco.com>, zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael)
wrote:

> It sounds like you're a little sensitive to  the lack of respect afforded
> your team.  Personally, I think that if A&M continues its success, you
> will find those same traits alive and well in College Station, too.  It's 
> not indigenous to FSU. 

It may be some of that, but I think more so of the FSU mindset that even
with one loss, that they deserve another shot at Miami and #1. This has
been hashed to death, and is a moot point now, anyway.

James
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison)
Subject: Re: Fiesta Bowl Buffalo Brouhaha (was: Re: Big East Bowl Preview)
Keywords: Ralphie
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:24:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.215122.12038@den.mmc.com>
kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
> A real brouhaha brewing at the Fiesta Bowl is the attempt by the bowl to
> keep Colorado's famous mascot Ralphie from doing her traditional romp
> around the field before each half starts.  ...
> (I didn't hear any complaints after recent post-seasons games
> at the Orange Bowl or Joe Robbie Stadium).

Remember Ralphie's first romp prior to the 1992 Blockbuster Bowl?  Maybe
this year, Ralphie will make it out of the starting gate without falling
on his/her face.  :-)

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From: mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM (Mike Minihan)
Subject: Re: Texas A&M
Organization: ARCO Oil and Gas Company
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:41:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.152010.24940@ods.com>, scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
writes:
> MILLER, JIMMY A. (HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu) wrote:
> [ stuff deleted ]
> 
> As we all know, the DMN is in business to *SELL PAPERS*.  Well, now
> they've
> made national headlines for themselves...  Doug Bedell, the writer, is 
> *always* involved somehow in these stories, whether it involves A&M,
> SMU,
> Texas, or whoever.  I guess he thinks he's gonna win a Pulitzer Prize or
> something for breaking these stories on *college football*, of all
> things.
> I mean, come on, this isn't Watergate or anything...
> 
> : used.  Should this be true, well...we're well and truly fucked and no
> mistake
> : about it. It just galls me that these so-called boosters think they're
> helping
> : the program. At least it's a felony now in Texas to do this sort of
> thing.  As
> : in big fine, maybe a little jail time.  But hopefully this is much ado
> about 
> : nothing, and maybe we can sue the _Dallas Morning News_ for making
> accusations
> : without documentary evidence -- surely that's negligence or someting.
> 
> 
If you notice, the person(s) who are writing this bull-crud are x-sips.
The Houston paper said last week that his article would be put out and
was fiction. They look for dirt on the Oklahoma program 4 years ago.

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