From: faruk@bcars6f5.BNR.CA (Faruk od Bosne)
Subject: Re: Bosnian mistakes
Reply-To: faruk@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 20:53:22 GMT


In article <1992Dec23.194733.18810@husc3.harvard.edu>, 
stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
|> 
|> I got finally fed up by the "history" spread around.

If you are fed up, you have a problem on your own.

|> Faruk od ex-Bosna claims that there was a Serbian domination
|> over Muslims since 1918.  It was so bad, that they could 
|> not live any more with it, so they had to declare their own state,
|> which is not extremely stable, as we see.  Ms. Shane, a rare sound 
|> person still posting on this group asked him to document this.  
|> 
|> Let me help him:

Thanx but no thanx. I do not need your "sources",
|> 
|> Haeffner, volksdeutcher from Zagreb, to Gleise von Horstenau
|> 
|> Bundesarchiv - Militaerararchiv in Freiburg,
|> Box 146/170, nu.85445, 
|> 
|> June 15, 1941
|> 
|> From Vasa Kazimirovic, "NDH u svetlu nemackih dokumenata i dnevnika
|> Gleza fon Horstenau, 1941-1945"

with serbian interpretation. There are a lot of autentic local sources
of serbian aggression and atrocities. Currently this is simply TV.  
If you want WWII read V. Dedijer's book about serbs atrocities over Muslim
population. Recent magazine Bosnjak also brought a story told by Milovan
Djilas' father about serbian atrocities after WWI in Monte-negro. 
What about estimated 5 mil Muslims expelled from serbia/m-negro during 
the 1918-1924 period. Most of them are stil living witnesses of those 
pogroms.

|> ....Muslims have taken all property of Serbs, and as excuse they actually
|> cannot [my comment, unlike Croats ] even say that they took revenge over
|> Serbs for their ex-dominance [ politicko ugnjetavanje ].  Like strong
|> opportunists, Muslims were always on the side of the Belgrade governments
|> and have largely helped that Croatian position has been suppressed for 
|> such a long time.  Their leader, Dr. Spaho, was in his politics supported 
|> by 90% of the Bosnian Muslims, and that influenced the Belgrade authorities
|> to give them many favours, damaging thus the cause of Bosnian Serbs.
|> ...Muslims would for sure behave the same way with Croats, as they are doing
|> it now with Serbs, of course, if they would come to power...

Dr. Spaho was "favoured" by serbs (king) only after Croats refused to go
to Belgrade after their MP's were assassinated (Radic et al.) in the 
parliament. That was political masquerade to foul the world that yugoslavia
is is stil in piece as parliamentary kingdom. However that was only until 
king Alexander was assassinated in Marseille (France) by Ustasas as a 
retaliation for their MPs. After that all political parties were forbidden 
and parliament desolved.
During WWII Draza's cetnics did nothing for allies cause in ex-Yu (that's why 
Churchill switched allies help to Tito the Communist). When the whole world
were busy with the Hitler, the Draza's chetnic's were exstraminating Bosnian
Muslims. "Handzar" division was formed much later with the intent to protect 
Muslim villages from chetnic's genocide. And they did retaliate with the help
of Ustasha's in NDH. Not as much as they should, though. That's why we have 
this horrors again. 
I know a serb whom chetnics mistakenly thrown into a fire as a 2 years old 
baby together with the Muslim children. The mistake was discovered and he
was taken out in burns. He is terminally ill since. I know many people who, 
as children, escaped serbian slaughtering in Foca and came to Sarajevo 
(as muhajirs), while their parents and older relatives were slaughtered 
in the most bestial way. Every Muslim village in eastern Bosnia remembers 
these horrors. 
I rely on much better sources than the translation of the comment of one 
opinion.

P.S. More, see my response to Ana Shame.

Faruk  
ex-Yu was prison for non-serbs.