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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Little Bill (Re: Eastwood's "Unforgiven")
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:04:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.053634.6767@cactus.org> rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett) writes:
>In article <1243@esl.ESL.COM> drm@esl.com writes:
>>[minor plot spoilers ho]
>>
>>Hackman did a great job as Little Bill, the town sheriff.  He's not
>>all that different from Munny in his killing days, except he's sober
>>most of the time, does violence to protect the town instead of
>>bust it up, has a higher IQ, and has more lucid moments. (The name
>>"little bill" is a twist on William Munny's name?)  
>
>Someone else asked why such a violent man let the cowboys loose.  Did anyone
>note the expression of sudden fear on the whorehouse matron's face when she
>said that the slashed-up girl had only giggled at the cowboy's little pecker,
>then, immediately, said "But she didn't know any better, Little Bill"?  Could 
>be that Little Bill has a little pecker, too, and let the cowboys go for 
>doing what he could not, being Law and Order and all...  His *leniency* 
>cuold be another attempt to "stick it to the women," and the matron's 

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Seriously, yes, anything is possible.  But in my opinion, this is stretching
it a bit.  Unless we get some word on what was intended from Eastwood,
I'd say that Little Bill was a guy with a somewhat eccentric view of
morality.  His goal seemed to be to minimize violence in his town
in the long term.  He considered the matter with the whorehouse to
be past tense.  He also seemed to me to consider the women fairly
expendable because of their "station in life".  No matter that he
apparently was the source of most violence in his town, he considered
his to be "necessary" evil.  I think his beating of Munny showed this.
He considered Munny to be a potentially threatening outsider.  He
didn't appear to be sizing up Eastwood's pecker.  Or Freeman's.
Unless Eastwood and Freeman were buddies due to their shared
proficiency in that area.  'Course, this might have been another of
Eastwood's debunking of the legends of the Old West.  Wonder
what the name of their gang really was?  The Long Riders?

GMS
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From: fafhrd@jessica.stanford.edu (Just another student)
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct-not about ending
Keywords: name of car
Organization: Harmony
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 17:10:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.155621.9805@math.utexas.edu> ssyun@lab3.ma.utexas.edu (SungSik Yun) writes:
>Is there anybody who can tell me the name of the car which SS have?
>Thanks.
>
	It was a Lotus... I'm not sure of the model, but I think it
was a Turbo Esprite (sp?)
 
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From: charlesk@fraser.sfu.ca (Charles Hak Kim)
Subject: Re: why i watch movies
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:18:49 GMT

Why?  Beats going to the local McDonald's and emptying my
Twelve guage at the little rodents on the jungle Gym. :)


No re gard for law,

Charles H. Kim

charlesk @sfu.caejim.oingdonw
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From: bew@brahms.udel.edu (Ben Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.video.releases
Subject: Is REBECCA really a Hitchcock film?
Summary: Or is it a Selznick film directed by Hitchcock?
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:41:53 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <16crt4INN1qg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su) writes:
; 
; In article <1992Aug13.051905.11195@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
; >This is a great film (Hitchcock's best IMHO) and the disc only makes the 
; >experience better. Leff has tons of information about the film. Both the
; >Criterion CAV laserdisc and the film are highly recomended.
; >
; >Michael
; 
; 	There is one slight problem with the above statement.  The film
; is not so much a Hitchcock film as it is a Selznick production.  I
; remember Hitchcock, a notorious control freak on his set, conceeded that
; Selznick basically have the run of the show. 
; 
; -- 
; [ Rodrick Su           ]-----------------------------------------------------] 
; [----------------------[ A bomb lives only as it is falling.		     ] 
; [ rod@cats.ucsc.edu    ]------------------------[ ``Use of Weapons''         ] 
; [ rod@ucscb.ucsc.edu   ]------------------------[   Iain M. Banks            ]


Ok, here it is.  Michael Kaufman (and others) have stated that "Rebecca" is
a great "Hitchcock" film, perhaps his "best".  And now Rodrick Su questions
whether it is really a "Hitchcock" film at all.  Is "Rebecca" a "Hitchcock
film", or is it a David O Selznick film directed by Alfred Hitchcock?
Because I agree that "Rebecca", although a very fine film, does not strike
me so much as a "Hitchcock" film, the way "The 39 Steps" or "The Lady
Vanishes" does (not that it isn't littered with his trademarks).  If it
weren't for the fact that we know it was his first American picture, it
would seem a very odd duck indeed, would it not, considering the rest of
Alfred Hitchcock's body of work.  Perhaps since he was just getting started
in America, he conceeded much of his control as Rodrick points out, in
order not to clash with his new home right off the bat.  I would be
interested in hearing what Hitch says about this film in Traffaut's famous
book on the master, for example.

Ben.


-- 
Ben Williams
bew@brahms.udel.edu

               What we got here is a failure to communicate...
From: jimt@fsg.UUCP (Jim S. Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Keywords: n
Date: 11 Aug 92 23:26:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale


        When the second Superman movie came out, I was living in Washington,
        D.C. and saw it there.  Superman flies Lois up to the N. Pole to
        his fortress of solitude.  He decides to give up his super powers
        for Lois and steps into a chamber that bathes him is red sunlight.
        When he stepped out, a woman in the audience yelled out:

                "You're going to have to WALK home now, GIRL!"

        The audience went berserk for at least a minute.......
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: 2 questions
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:12:59 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <1830@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> i14@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Martin Los) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Can somebody answer these questions:
>
>1. What is the name of the movie in which Bette Midler plays
>   an Actress/Singer? I thought it was 'Beaches' or something ...
Yes it was Bitches....er....I mean Beaches.

>   Who plays the other female role?
Barbara Hershey with lips.

>
>2. What is the name of the movie in which Michael J. Fox plays
>   a doctor stuck soemwhere in a small village? And what is the
>   real name of the gorgeous actress he falls in love with?

Doc Hollywood.
can't remember the woman's name...
..
.
.
.
.
.
.

.

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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Mackenzie Bros. == Waynes World?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:05:24 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:

> I haven't seen Waynes World but everything I hear makes it sound like a 
> Mackenzie Brothers ripoff. Has anyone who's seen both noticed this? 

Yup.  The whole concept of Wayne's World (SNL skit, movie, whatever) bears
a more-than-a-tad-suspicious resemblence to the SCTV Bob & Doug McKenzie/
Great White North thing.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: *GREAT MOVIE ACTORS*
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:20:51 GMT
Keywords: male only (hunks vs. babes)

In article <20586@optima.cs.arizona.edu> margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:
>> >Armand Assante
[.....]
>John J. York (the Jon-Erik lookalike)
>The guy that used to play Jimmy Lee on General Hospital -Steve Bond?
>
>Okay, I'm not adding anymore!  Let's see some other input.  If guys
>can go on about babes, we can go on about hunks.  Okay, don't flame
>me.  I say this all in good humor.
>
>margaret

Dear Margaret and anyone else,
	I have been reading posts like this for years.  I find it 
rather amusing that the posts are all of the format "Well, if guys
can post about women, then women can post about guys...".  I, 
personally find it surprising that each woman that posts this
followup seems to me to be reveling in some kind of "wickedness".
It seems to me to be fairly natural that a species that has
survived as long as humanity has not realized that sex on the
part of both male and female sides was not a significant part of
the survival of the species.  

	Apparently, some think that a drive that has ensured
the survival of the species is somehow evil or sick or twisted
or cheap.  This is pathetic and sick and unhealthy.

	I personally do not find any problem in accepting
women voicing their opinion about male "hunks" in the cinema.
I may not find myself fitting the ideal of Kevin Kostner
in his movies, but I do not focus my life around not fitting
the image of Mr. Kostner because I can't ever look exactly
like him.

	I don't burden myself with the idiotic notion that
women are somehow perverted to like to look at the Male 
Hunk of the Week.  I don't consider women to be sick,twisted,
cheap, perverted, weak or less feminine for liking to look
at Patrick Swayze's buns.

	Maybe I'm perverted.  If women wanted to read novels 
about a guy giving them what they want, I would not consider that
"sick".  
	
	If I were to stop in a shopping lane at the express
checkout and find a magazine full of  depictions of  men
"having their way" with females, or, for that matter,  men
having their way with other men or females having er way
with other females, I wouldn't even so much as change my
breakfast menu.  I know these things sell to someone.  I know
females buy these things.  Otherwise they would not be
printed, would they?  What's the different between "Harlequin
Romance" and "Playboy" except that the latter is much more 
intellectual?  And if you say something is the result of
"conditioning", who are you to say that someone is "conditioned"
while YOU are "really thinking"?

	I'm afraid the last million years of so of evolution
have made me what I am.  And my freedom of choice has not
provided me with any indication of what is so terribly wrong 
about it.

GMS
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From: pat@rousku.kau.vtt.fi (Pasi Antero Tervonen)
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland, Machine Automation
	Laboratory
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:56:08 GMT


 Ok, I'm Finnish so  have to translate the name to English, but
it's like... hmm... _Rem_ in your language. 
--
*   Pasi Tervonen               ****************       :  " No thanks,    
*   Insin`o'`o'rinkatu 60 B 73  *pat@kau.vtt.fi*  =8^) :   I got me own "
*   SF-33720 Tampere            *  931-163641  *       :      Smiley
*   Finland                     ****************       : in Ford Fairlane
From: kbaggett@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Kim Baggett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Terminator
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:01:51 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

Sure they can use Arnold; focus on the pattern used for his terminator
character.  There is someone out there that Skynet felt would fit the bill to
build him.  What's the story with that?  How would it fit in to the John
Connor scenario?  How many terminators were manufactured and why did they look
like Arnold.  Who was the model?  And why?
From: ralphh@sigyn.cs.athabascau.ca (Ralph Hand)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Kevin Bacon: address wanted
Summary: How do I get in touch with kevin bacon
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:26:36 GMT

Does anyone have an address where I can get in touch with Kevin Bacon.
Please please pretty please.

Many thanks in advance to the person who saves my life.

Ralph
From: joeg@gagme (joe grosch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.wobegon
Subject: Re: I'm home...
Date: 12 Aug 92 06:53:33 GMT
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

mjl8s@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Mark Joseph Lesko) writes:
: Well, for what it's worth, I just got back from Minnesota.
: I spent a while in a small central town of about 2400 people.
: It easliy could have been named Wobegon.  Patunias in the 
: painted tractor wheel on the lawn, a small lake in the middle
: of town, yer old main street...  ah, what a place to grow up.
: Some of my best memories....
: 
What, pray tell, was the name of this town? I am a transplanted Minnesoten.
I moved to Minneapolis in 1989. Sad to say, the job market went south so
now I work in Chicago :-(. I get back about every other month now. My Ex
and my children still live in South Minneapolis. We ofter joke that 
Minneapolis is the biggest, small town we know of.

I have spent a lot of time driving around Minnesota, just exploring, and
yes, there is no Lake Wobegon, there are THOUSANDS of towns that could be.
My favorite town, and the one I wish to retire to, is Ely, MN. Little town 
of 3 - 4,000 people just this side of the Boundary Waters. Ely still has
good phone service so I could use a fast modem (Telebit) but close 
enought to the Boundary Waters that it's only maybe a 20 min. drive to
the first portage in. Sigh!

--
Josef Grosch         | It's been a quiet week in Lake Wobegon, my home town...
joeg@gagme.chi.il.us |       New Yorker by birth, Minnesoten by choice
From: greg@cs.washington.edu (Greg Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Tomb of the Cybermen on KTPS
Date: 3 Aug 92 19:23:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: beaver.1992Aug3.192314.14378
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Adolph Eichmann's Evil Cake Factory

In what is probably the return of Dr. Who to KTPS, Channel 28, Tacoma,
KTPS is showing Tomb of the Cybermen twice, as part of two Dr. Who
marathons.

On Saturday, August 29th:
6:00pm  Resistance is Useless (1992 BBC Special)
6:30    "Tom Baker"  (whatever the heck that means.  It's 2 1/2 hours long,
so presumably there's an episode in there somewhere).
9:00    Tomb of the Cybermen (until approximately 11 pm)

On Sunday, August 30th:

12:00 noon   "Tom Baker" (more episodes, I guess)
 4:00	     Resistance is Useless
 5:00	     Tomb of the Cybermen

The variation in the length of Resistant is Useless leads me to
believe we will be graced with intermittent pledge breaks.

With any luck, more Tom Baker episodes will follow on a weekly basis.  At
least, that's what they promised us.

				Greg Barnes
				greg@cs.washington.edu
From: doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: RE: PBS & SCIFI CHANNELS
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) 


-> Oh, it will come out.  There's a definite start date now.  I can't
-> remember if it's September 12 or September 21 ...
->
-> The cable company in this county has had a spot ready for SFC (that's
-> "Sci-Fi Channel" -- not "StarFleet Command"!) for a while ...
-> Unfortunately, I live in the small area where a smaller, more
-> expensive cable company reigns ...
Let's hope so... My PBS station cancelled Doctor Who at the end of
February... Right after Caves of Androzani, too! Anyway... My cable
company is SUPPOSED to do a major overhaul of their cable lineup in
early '93, so I can only HOPE that this will include the Sci-Fi
channel... But, from what Iain Robert Asplin said, commercials in
between Doctor Who episodes??? That can get kind of frusterating. Who am
I kidding? VERY frusterating! But, any Doctor Who is better than no
Doctor Who.
         - Doug
---------
doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com

By the way... did you ever notice how the TARDIS slowly became a LOT
more reliable? In The Seeds of Death (2nd Doctor), the Doctor wouldn't
even THINK of trying to use the TARDIS to get the T-Mat repairmen to the
moon. However, in Logopolis, the Doctor doesn't think TWICE about
setting the coordinates to move the TARDIS 3 feet to land around the
other police box! Has the Doctor been tinkering with the TARDIS console
in his spare time?? Maybe surprise visits to the Gallifreyan TARDIS
Repair Garage??? <G>
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Quiz episode 5
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:11:29 GMT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada


we have the results from the first 4 trivia quizzes, scores out of 40 :

   Frank Durda IV (uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org)  32
   James William Bennetts (james@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au) 23
   Jonathan Drukman (jondr@sco.com) 19.5
   Ron O'Dell (keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us)15.5
   Kevin Blayton (kgb8752@ultb.isc.rit.edu) 14
   Iaian Asplin Roberts (               )  10
   Ariane(Ablanch@physics.su.oz.au) 8
   Richard K. Fox (fox-r@cis.ohio-state.edu) 5
   Franklin Trumphy (swan@iastate.edu)  3.5


And now Part 5, which is purely based on DR mk 2:

 *1)  Who did the Cybermen use to deflect a ship into the sun?

 *2)  After regenerating, who did the doctor see in the mirror ?

 *3)  Name the first DW to feature Patrick Troughton's face at the beginning
      of the show?

 *4) Who was suppose to be the next companion after Ben and Polly had left?

  5) What did the cybermats home on ?

 *6) Which country does Salamander originate from   ?

 *7) How did the Doctor and companions rescue the riggers in "Fury from the
     Deep"?

8) Describe the Master of the LAnd?

*9) What was Benton's rank acc Dr mk2?

10) Who was the other Gallifreyan renegade in "The War Games" ?


    Rules:
   1)  No posting of answers.  That is up to me.
   2)  Enter as many times as you like, until you get 10/10.
   3)  Deadline is extended to Wednesday, 19 August, 1992 11:59 MDT.




Dave Shariff Yadallee
yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All!
cowboy (n): A 20th Century extension of  the neanderthal caveman.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: shari@room.Princeton.EDU (Shari L. Landes)
Subject: Re: CYBERHISTORY
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:15:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.050742.5489@deeptht.armory.com> keeper@deeptht.armory.com (Ron O'Dell) writes:
>Problem here is that in Moonbase is it said, "There >were< Cybermen --
>every child knows that -- but they were destroyed ages ago."

>Forty years isn't an `age'.

Maybe, the Cybermen will be wiped out (assuming the weren't in Silver
Nemesis) in a future story, where the Cybermen travel to the distant
past, say 600,000,000 BC.  Then they would have been destroyed ages
ago, according to the people in Moonbase.

- Harlan Landes
Gates of Dawn/Event One BBS
+1 609 426 1618

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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: Concerning the Return of Doctor Who
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:17:35 GMT

Concerning a really old topic, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) wrote:
>  Well I know i am going to get a hockey man mad , but I must defend my
>convictions.
>   I look forward to the day that Doctor Who returns to air, and I hope most
>probably with Sylvester and Sophie back on screen.

Since you are deliberately trying to provoke me, let me respond by providing
a little background for those that haven't been around for more than the
year that Dave has been posting this subject. Even he has forgotten the
original premise.

Many moons ago, Dave posted a request for others to write/phone the BBC and
request the Dr. Who return to the air. Not only that, but demand that Sylvester
and Ace return.

My point is to concentrate on getting the show back first, then worry about
details such as who is Who. As we can see, nothing is happening in any case.
Why Dave continues to post this subject every month leaves me with the answer
of he desperate to generate some articles. Note that no one on the net makes
any Dr. Who decisions, so what are you telling us for? Making pleas for
letters and phone calls is one thing, but just telling us your opinion is
another. Also, note that since your original premise of Syl is one of the
favorite Doctors etc., is evidently no longer as true as you think according
to the recent poll results just posted.

Bring the show back. If that happens, hopefully the show will pick up where
it left off for continuity's sake. If there is a Doctor 8 right away, big
deal. Let's move on. Remember what the show is about.

Let me add one thing that Gene Roddenberry said about Star Trek: The hard-core
fans of the show are a VERY SMALL percentage of the viewers that watch the
show. Thus the network cares very little about the show's fans. The same goes
for Dr. Who. What you/I/we want is meaningless to the TV execs. The public
only influences public TV (like PBS) and pay-per-view.

Tom

Tune in next week to see the Doctor take on his enemies at the BBC as he
flushes out the archives of earth in "Enema of the World"!
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Penacasta
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec.arts.drwho,  Hong Kong
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:16:58 GMT

In article <15030@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.214551.13561@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>>I think I can make a guess why Christopher H.Bidmead never novelized
>>Penacasta.  Pip and Jane Baker.
>>as I recall, Penacasta was to feature the Rani in alliance with the Autons
>>and Pip and Jane own the copyright on the Rani's character, so I would
>>guess that they either forbade such a book or asked for money and
>>Bidmead didn't like the thought of them taking some of the profits of his
>>work.
>>Mind you, this is just a guess.
>
>And unfortunately it's a wrong guess.  The Autons/Rani story was by the late
>Robert Holmes, and it only got into the story breakdown state, so there's
>hardly any chance of it ever turning up in any form.  The story I heard
>was that Penacasata was supposed to be the legendary story in which Mel
>was introduced, involving the Master and a computer fraud in Pease Pottage.
>Of course, this might not be the case, because it doesn't really sound
>like Bidmead's style.
>
>Either way, I'm surprised there's no fan outcry to get this story put out.

Thank you for reminding me.  You're right the Rani/Autons thing was
going to be a Holmes one since he invented the Autons.
With my memory refreshed I can now recall that Penacasta was *not* going
to be the Mel introduction story.  Peri would have been the companion
throughout the season as JNT did not need to replace her until well into
the hiatus when Nicola Bryant became miffed at missing a good part in
something due to her Who contract.  
Judging by his previous stories, Penacasta would have been the name of
the planet Bidmead would set the story on.