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From: niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard)
Subject: Re: DoD Battle Hymn.... Final Days.... Get
Organization: Cathode Ray Mission, San Jose
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:41:22 GMT

In article <17as8qINN5r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>While there has been a lot of good music suggested, for all kinds of
>reasons, there is only one song even remotely related to motorcycling
>which exudes the same self-deprecating humor and downright silliness as
>Geeky the Daemon and the rest of the DoD, and that is the pickle song
>by Arlo Guthrie.

Great, except that I detest most folk music, Woody 'n' Arlo Guthrie included
(exceptin' "Alice...")

The fact that Mr. Green's (admittedly cogent) recommendation garnered only
_three_ votes underscores the problem: no single DoD 'hymn' satisfies us,
because, after all, we're individuals with widely varying tastes. This is
most definitely a Good Thing - it's the spice that keeps rec.moto lively.

So, a different approach seems in order.

I sense that there's a much richer vein to be mined here than just _one_ song.
I'm thinking that individual themes reflecting facets of DoD-ness deserve their
own 'hymns', just as there are individual hymns for different types of worship.
Allow me to illustrate (forgive me if you have better choices than I've listed
here, my memory is failing... dave, my mind is going, i can feel it... ):

	DoD Food:
		"Chicken" by the Cramps
		"Chicken Squawk" by MDC
		the "Roadkill" (Libbey's) Jingle
		"TV Dinners" by ZZ Top

	DoD Drink:
		"Roadhouse Blues" by the Doors
		"Titties and Beer" by FZ and the Mothers

	DoD People:
		"Too Old to Rock And Roll..." by Jethro Tull
		"Yo' Momma" - FZ again.
		"You Are What You Is" - ditto

	DoD and Our 'Friends' In Law Enforcement:
		"My War" by Black Flag

	DoD Rides:
		"Hold On St. Christopher" by Tom Waits (mentions Nortons...)
		"Ride of the Vaukyries" by Wagner
		most Ventures music

	DoD Attitudes:
		"Some New Kind Of Kick" by The Cramps
		"Lust For Life" by Iggy Pop
		"California Uber Alles" by the Dead Kennedys

	DoDementia:
		"Alice's Restaurant" by you know who
		"Motorcycle Song" (ditto)
		'I don't care if it rains or...' by Asleep At The Wheel (?)
		Kinky Friedman songs (too many to list...)

	Geeky the DoDaemon:
		"Sympathy for the Devil" by the Rolling Stones

Add to this list or forget it, I don't much care. "Motorcycle Song" just
doesn't do it for me. Sorry, Ed...


-Neal
[niall@c3.com]
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From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: Re: Castrol Syntec (Oh God! Not oil again!)
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:41:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.205613.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>Has anyone tried Castrol's new Syntec synthetic oil in a bike?  If so,
>what are your impressions?  I have two concerns in particular.
>
> It is only available in 5W-50, but they claim it will replace or
> even mix with any weight of oil.
>
> The "molecular bonding" shit sounds an awful lot like they're
> trying to get in on the Slick 50 game, which is a game I'm not
> ready to play yet.


I haven't tried Castrol Syntec yet, however I have read a little
about it and can make some comparisons, however I need some more
info to make a decision on it.  

It is an ester based synthetic similar to the good/best synthetic
oils available.  The molecular bonding is not bullshit, as the ester
based synthetics will leave a film on parts for an indefinite period
of time unlike dinosaur oils.  It is probably VERY similar to Mobil 1,
however it states that it is 100% synthetic.  The thing I not sure of
is that Mobil 1 says it is 100% synthetic also, but with a small print
clarification that excludes the additive carriers (which are dino 
based).  I'm not sure whether the Castrol is the similar in this respect
or not.  

Around Delaware, the Castrol is about $0.50 per quart more expensive
than Mobil 1, so until I answer that question and see some new test
data comparing it to the others I'll stick with Mobil 1...

I will say that I'm quite sure that it is a "good" oil and is 
superior to any dino based oil that you may use in your vehicle,
be it bike or cage...

Steve
-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
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From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Man, that was FUN!
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:16:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.231647.18204@wixer.cactus.org> lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
>
> -LjM
>   DoD #insert appropriate, since there are no regulations governing the
>        usage of 'em anyway.

There are no regulations concerning where/when you can fart, either. Shall I 
break out the Lysol for you, Lyle?

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: physics 101 (was Re: Centripetal !!)
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:06:11 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <dbc-130992134139@b62003.student.cwru.edu> dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:

>Trying to convince the public they need narrower tires for the snow ought
>to be fun... :-)

All you need to do is to stand at the side of a steep hill when snow
makes it impossible for at least half the vehicles to make it to the
top. The reason is simple enough -- thinner tyres cut through the crap
down to the road better. It may be amusing that many drivers are so
unaware of the physics of driving as to believe the contrary, but I
think you're being a little unkind to suggest that educating the
idiots should be an amusing process. Like those poor brainwashed fools
who think square headlights are better than round ones, these poor
people should be provided with special safe driving reservations where
they can safely undergo remedial education. Laughing at the
cognitively challenged causes severe damage to their egos.

:-)
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
From: bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Sprocket design (rec.moto.physics.design) Question
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:38:26 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

I was wondering...why is the countershaft sproket smaller than the rear
wheel sproket? If the countershaft:wheel ratio was reversed, say 3:1,
couldn't we run engines at a 3000 or 4000 redline with the same top
end? I know that gearing and torque to start moving from a standing
stop would be more difficult, but what is the philosophy behind the
design?

If the gearing/torque for low-speed can be worked out, why
not reverse the sprokets? Wouldn't it be easier on the
engine?


----
Mark Bergman		'77 KZ1000
Brooklyn, NY
718-855-9148

bergman@panix.com
{cmcl2,psi,uunet,apple}!panix!bergman
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Man, that was FUN!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:31:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep09.171046.18195@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.154116.17900@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>>I propose we blacklist anyone snobbish enough to attempt to blacklist
>>anyone, and, as such, am duelly blacklisted.
>
>Does that mean you're going out on Main Street at High Noon and shoot yourself?

It's a duel.
Bwaha
 
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From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Waving with meaning..?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D38229E6122631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:34:13 GMT

In article <6130290@hplsla.hp.com> Ken Snyder, kens@hplsla.hp.com writes:
>was in a perfect position such that his radar was blocked completely by
>a hill and I got no previous indication.  That friendly trucker saved me
>a bunch of bucks and so I return the favor whenever I can.

Basically, what I do is, raise my right hand and make a swirling motion
above my head, while taking my left hand and flicking the high beam on
and off.  Immediately after I do this, I lower both hands to my sides
and make duck flapping motions like I'm trying to fly.  While I'm doing
that, I raise _both_ legs (this is VERY important) _above_ my handlebars
while kicking off my right boot.  Obviously this can only be done
once but if there are several radar traps in  your area, I suggest you
carry lots of spare right boots...

-aki
DoD 0628
From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Product evaluation SAENG Wingletts
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:05:22 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
]
]steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade) writes:
]
]> They also carry this stuff called
]>Can-Do, $12.95 for 2 20oz cans.  It basically is a cleaner and wax in
]>a spray can.  The cleaner goes on, you wipe it off and then buff.    
]
]Gee, sounds kinda like Lemon Pledge.  :-)
Does Lemon Pledge contain carnuba wax.  I've tried Pledge 
and it won't clean grease and grime like this stuff, and the
wax finish doesn't feel the same or bead up like this stuff.

Steve
steve@zx11.cactus.org
From: stafford@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: vanity plates
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:51:18 GMT
Organization: Minnesota State University System

>>Anybody out there have personalized plates?

Naaa, but I should.

Fellow in my old home town has:
          ---------
         | NOT JAP |
          ---------
on his 70's Harley.  Good old Iowa.
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Request for Info - Passenger Position (was: Re: beginner's luck)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 9 Sep 1992 05:41:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Sep4.165347.11373@nsscmail.att.com>, cel@nsscmail.att.com
(clayton EDward LEIHY iii) wrote:
> 
> Is(are) there any law(s) which PROHIBIT motorcycle passengers from
> facing any direction other than FORWARD?
> 
> 2) Is sitting facing the rear legal in the USofA?


I don't know about laws on the position itself, but I'm sure that most have
laws on the state of dress which would make the postition worth while...
Of course, sitting on the tank might not be comfortable for the passenger
in question.  (The mechanics of the rest of the postition are left as an
exercise for the reader(rider?))

> EDUARDO (DoD#0521)

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834     | DoD #207  AMA
#573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci. dept.| KotNML  /  KotB     
|
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get | '81 CB750C          
|
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111              | '88 Bianchi Limited 
|
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: La Honda --> Alice's Run
Date: 9 Sep 1992 15:48:43 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: ba
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In article <ramarren-080992091443@kops.apple.com> ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi) writes:
>In article <Bu8u44.Fqo@well.sf.ca.us>, rwert@well.sf.ca.us (Robert M. Wert
>jr. (Bob Wert)) wrote:
>> 
>> Has *anyone* ever made the run from La Honda up to Alice's on Hwy 84
>> without having to slow down for a cager?  I had a couple days off a week
>> ago, and thought I'd make the run on a weekday when my chances would 
>> be better, but over 2 days and 4 runs, I never did it.

>> What's the secret?

 Well.. sacrifice. 

 When I moved to California a few years back I moved to Woodside so
 that I would be close to a few good roads. My riding friends and I
 used to get up at 5am Sunday morning and meet at Robert's at 5:30am.
 Then up 84 to Alice's, down Skyline to 9, down 9 to 1, up 1 to 84 
 (or any one of the myriad little roads that run into 1), then up
 84 to La Honda and thence Alice's. Run (and I do mean _run_) 
 completed by about 7:45-8am. Often got to Alice's before it opened
 for breakfast. Just about never, ever encountered road traffic on
 84. However, you could always count on some cars on the Pacific
 side of 9 and going up 1. 

 The key is to complete all your riding before the cops leave the
 donut shops and the squids come out.. In a year and a half of
 extremely squidly behavior I believe we saw the state patrol
 maybe three times. Even then, they were transitioning between
 donut shops and not about to turn around and get after us..

 Really, I think the cops _appreciate_ us getting the squidly
 riding done when there aren't any civilians on the roads.

 The side benefit was that we always got good seats at Alice's
 for breakfast and having gotten our jollies already were in
 no hurry to leave.

 But all that is behind me now..

 stef

--
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dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting technical writing firm) 
AMA/CCS #5, Regional Lightweight Supersport, Superbike, Grand Prix Champion
mail:  race-request@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM to join motorcycle roadracing list
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From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Subject: Re: Man, that was FUN!
Organization: Team D00fus
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 22:49:52 GMT

In article <6349@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:
>: 
>So, still don't have a clue, huh?
> 
>: Rich Swift,  DoD # 3030  (tentative)

I would like to hereby nominate Richard Swift for blacklisting from the fine
organization known as the DoD for reasons which should by now be readily
apparent.

It's not so much the cluelessness (hell, if cluelessness was a reason for
blacklisting, I'd never have gotten MY number...) as the wannabe attitude.
He needs a REAL attitude.
-- 
 .--------------------------------------------------------------------------.
/ Lyle J \ lestat@wixer.cactus.org /  Team Doofus  \ DoD / Nobody else WANTS \
\ Mackey /     Social Engineer     \ '89 Kaw EX500 / 587 \  my  opinions...  /
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From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Party Competition (was Re: The man without a number
Keywords: Party, Full Moon, Labor Day
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:12:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Sep12.011231.27171
Organization: Washington State University

In article <m0sngc-.shoun@netcom.com> shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:
>In article <1992Sep5.005232.20364@serval.net.wsu.edu>
> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>
>>ps.  Party at my place on Labor day.  Barbecued ribs, brew, CotC, whatever.
>>     Everyone welcome, let me know if you're coming.
>
>We've argued the merits of the West Coast Joust versus the Right Coast
>Ride based on the number and types of bikes, quantity of beer consumed,
>etc. I am now wondering whose Labor Day party was the best. Bill,
>how many nude bikers did you have? We had 11 naked bikers on 10 bikes.

WE had 31 nakkid Denizens on 24 bikes.  We also managed to stuff 18
nakkid Denizens into a Spagthorpe Chihuahua (woulda had 19 except one
kept cracking jokes about ways to use a shift lever). In addition, we
had 8 nakkid bungee jumpers, 4 nakkid mechanics, 2 stoned Harley pilots,
2 squids, and me.

I'll believe your posting, if you believe mine.  :-) 

Ride Nude,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
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If you walk, just walk.
If you sit, just sit.
If you ride, just ride.

Above all, don't wobble.
                             Zen saying (slightly modified)
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Road tip #2 (Toolkit flashlight)
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:02:08 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey

In article <1992Sep1.145859.17959@APS.Atex.Kodak.COM>, >artc@bacchus.Atex.Kodak.COM (Art Campbell) wrote:

   BMW makes a small floodlight
   that plugs into the accessory jack on their bikes.

To which Dean Cookson replied:

   Makes a good tester for the Aux-jack fuse too, right Art? :-)

Dean (all seriousness aside):

Perhaps you are referring to the Accu-Jac(TM) 12V accessory originally
designed for use in a cage??  I inherited mine from an uncle, and after
ordering a new [larger 8-) ] Organ Unit, am now trying to mount it on
my Lead Wing for those times when my SO can't/won't ride with me or
doesn't wish to Give Me A Hand.

Eduardo (I don't believe this has been covered in the FAQ) Leihy
Nothing is as over rated as a bad f**k or as        | '86 Shadow 700 (hers)
under rated as a good sh*t" -Laszlo Nemeth, DoD #666| '86 Aspencade (ours)

P.S.  Laszlo don't use no stars!!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:26:47 PDT

It looks like I came into this discussion a little bit late.  I just
"inherited" a shaft-drive bike, and I'm curious whether anything
useful was said before this thread turned into a discussion of the
physics of rotating front tires.  Anyone out there want to e-mail me
with the details?  Thanks...

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|                   DoD #0486 - '82 Vision 550                   |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: rowell@socrates.umd.edu (William Rowell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: moped vs moto
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:08:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maryland University College


...

>Unless she is buying it for him, no debate is necessary.

To clarify, yes, she would be buying it, or at least financing it in part
because he has a very large car payment which prevents him from buying
a bike outright. This guy is a student and not financially well-endowed.


-billy

-- 
'93 CBR600F2P  Work = 301-443-4930 "...you see, there's fast, really fast,
'91 MR2 Turbo  Home = 301-871-7704  and STUPID fast. This one is a notch above
'90 F117A <NOT!>                    STUPID fast" -salesdude on the ZX-11.
                                   "Hmmmmmmm!" -me
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From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: speaking of AMERICAN beer (correction to)
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:27:51 GMT

I received a flood of questions about my previous post..PLEASE note
that my sig contained the WRONG address (it's corrected now).  Please
forward any questions you may have to the e-mail address listed
below...sorry about that..


-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
From: matthews@news.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Advice on Performace Quirk
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:41:18 GMT
Organization: JILA, University of Colorado at Boulder

In article <1992Sep14.081332.2297@inland.com> bloom@inland.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.164444.29942@brtph560.bnr.ca>, scatlin@bnr.ca (Scot Catlin) writes:
>>  On my way to work this mornin' on the trusty mount, I noticed the strangest
>>thing. I turned to look down at the chain while at speed and
>>the bike started losing power big time as soon as my leg came away from the
>>bike.  I tested this by spreading my legs while riding and, sure enough, the
>>bike started to die. I figure that the air-flow into the carbs through the air
>>cleaners gets disrupted.  Would this cause such a drop in power?  Is there
>>something else wrong with the bike?  
>
>Interesting theory........but, wrong! 
>This sounds like another case of my bike doesn't run right when I go 
>south on Main street, but she runs real good when I go north.

It is not a design flaw, it is a *feature*, dammit!  Considering that
this feature exists in some form on bikes such as the GS450S and Nighthawk 
CB700SC, the fact that Dr. D's bike doesn't show the symptoms suggests that
it is *his* bike that is aberrant. 

There are two things to try.  First, try rerouting the carb vent tubes
so they exit someplace where you think there will not be a vacuum created
while the bike is on the highway.  If that doesn't work, you must either
replace the individual filters with the stock airbox, or fabricate some
sort of shield for the filters, or not ride with your kneecaps out in
the wind.  :-)
-- 
-Alex Matthews (matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu)
DoD #0010   
"It vibrated even with the engine off."  - tomb
From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:26:57 GMT
Subject: Re: I got some (was Re: riding clothes choices)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server