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From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Shoulders
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:13:11 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul27.153943.5257@nrao.edu>, lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) writes:
> In article <max.712196985@isis> max@isis.eng.hou.compaq.com (Max Heffler) writes:
>>ah238@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Zupko) writes:
>>
>>>Anyone know any good shoulder exerices with dumbbells?
>>
>>1.  Upright Dumbell Rows
> 
> Correct if I'm wrong, but...
> 
> I learned that upright rows are a back exericise. When doing them with a
> barbell, hands about 6-7 inches apart, lift the bar close to your body to
> about your chin height. I feel this in my back. I've heard that varying the
> grip can also get your shoulders somewhat, but this is primarily a back
> exercise. Also, most "rows" exercises are for back (although that certainly
> doesn't prove anything).
> 
> Any of you experts care to step in?
> 
> Luther


Actually, you do upright rows with a barbell, not a dumbell.  Upright rows are
for your traps, not your back.  You should be standing upright, not bent over, 
so there should be no movement occurring in the back.

Rob
Loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu
From: cline+@cs.cmu.edu (Kenneth Cline)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: love handles
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:12:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul28.121234.124942
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Jul27.201950.255311@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>If you have a bar to hang from, you can do alternating side frog lifts, or,
>if your abs are strong enough, straight alternating side leg lifts.  But
>your abs REALLY have to be strong.  Or, you could lie on your back and
>simulate side frog lifts on the groung, although this is better done
>on a bench.  V-crunches are also good; because you're working muscles
>above the waist, you're killing two birds with one stone.

These exercises may build muscle in the midsection, but doing so will
accentuate the 'love handles' since the fat is above the muscles.
Losing fat should involve proper diet and lots of aerobic exercise
(but try to avoid overuse injury).
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: High Protein meal...
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:17:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul28.125849.4351@meaddata.com>, daves@meaddata.com (Dave Spencer) writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.011829.9712@iat.holonet.net>, mlabow@iat.holonet.net (Marshall Labow) writes:
> |>
> |> Protein is best eaten over several (say 5-6) small meals a day. Ideally, a
> |> diet should be high in carbohydrates (preferably complex carbohydrates),
> |> moderate in protein and low in fat. After a workout, you need to replenish
> |> carbohydrates, but I'm not sure that it makes a great deal of difference when
> 
>   Could someone please list foods that fall into the above category.
>   I am unsure of what foods I can eat that are high carb, medium
>   protein and little to no fat to enjoy before/after a workout to:
> 
>   1) Supplement my workout appetite
>   2) Increase body weight (muscle)
> 
>   Any responses would be greatly appreciated. I am getting back into
>   seriously lifting and martial arts training and want to do it right!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dave Spencer                |   "Definitely.....Dave."  
> Mead Data Central           |            
> 9393 Springboro Pike        |    - Ford Ennals, 
> Miamisburg, Oh. 45342       |      president, REEBOK Inc.
> daves@meaddata.com          |                  
>                            

Dave, Canned tuna in H2O, lean chicken and fish are high protein choices as well
as a lean bottom round steak.  For the complex carbs., try pasta, breads, 
potatoes, and certain fruits and vegetables like broccoli.  Also sweet potatoes.

--Rob
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland)
Subject: Re: Sweating !!!!
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:15:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.190506.23188@csi.uottawa.ca> mlantin@csi.uottawa.ca (Maria Lantin) writes:
>In article <827@jgaltstl.UUCP> terry@jgaltstl.UUCP (terry linhardt) writes:
>>
>>Are you sure that less sweat means that a body is *more* efficient
>>at cooling? The body sweats in order to cool off. I think that the
>>person who sweats more is actually cooling off more efficiently 
>>than the 'non-sweater'.
>
>Well if the body of the non-sweater is actually being cooled down with
>less sweat (and therefore less work) by the body it would seem that it is
>more efficient.  Since I wrote this 2 women have said that they sweat
>more than their male SO's so maybe there is no difference and those 
>articles I read were bull.  I don't know.

Some friends of mine got me a sweater for my birthday.  I'd have preferred
a moaner or a screamer, but the sweater was OK.

(That isn't original; I forget who said it.)

Some quick looks around my gym over several days failed to produce a
pattern of one gender sweating more than the other.  That's not very
scientific, but who cares?

I have noticed that I sweat more than I used to while working out, even
though I've probably never been in better shape.  Is this yet another
wonderful part of aging, or is it just me?  (I'm only 32.)

=====================================================================
Reid Kneeland
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Transaction Technology Inc., Santa Monica, CA, USA (310) 450-9111 x2499
The opinions expressed above do not necessarily etc etc...

Never trust a man who can count to 1,023 on his fingers.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Subject: side effects of carbonated beverage consumption?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 13:22:34 GMT


Are there any major negative side effects from drinking 
carbonated beverages? Forget sugar, caffeine, etc-- does the
carbonation itself have an effect?

-- 
          aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: chuck@ssd.kodak.com (Charles S. Collins 726-9461)
Subject: What happened?
Originator: chuck@anchovie
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:49:55 GMT

I was reading misc.fitness and came to one from Kathy which simply
read, "You're easily threatened."

When I responded with the 'k' key, all of my remaining articles
were junked.

What happened?  Respond directly via email, please.  Thanks.
-- 
Chuck Collins				Product Software Engineering
chuck@pixel.kodak.com			Eastman Kodak Company
(716)726-9461				901 Elmgrove Road
					Rochester, NY  14653-5811
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sonic@cray.com (Curtis L. Swanson)
Subject: Re: Heartrates...
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:35:01 CDT

I'm 28 and my resting pulse has always been 50-60.

You asked, I spouted....

***  Curt Swanson  ***  sonic@romulus.cray.com  ***  IOTTMCO  *********
HOME:n - That mythical place where you can go and relax.......
I'd rather be in a coma.........
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:08:57 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <17306@autodesk.COM>, mickw@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.181536.4769@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba) writes:
>> Does anybody have any info/experience with this stuff? Side effects? 
>> or anything? All info would be greatly appreciated. Send mail if
>> possible.
> 
> This stuff is the best thing I've found yet. It's usually taken for
> asthma, but is great for working out too. I find that it frees up
> my breathing, increases my concentration, and lets me lift heavier
> weights for longer. You might try stacking it with a product called
> E.P.H. 833. If you're a light sleeper, you might find the Dymeta-
> drine makes it harder to get to sleep after your workout. I find
> two tablets does me just fine.

What is this E.P.H.?  Also, be careful about stacking with D 25.
                        
                                         -ROB
From: afh@cci632.cci.com (Andrew Halperin)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: New Triathlon
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:32:15 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <Brt75F.JsF@csfb1.fir.fbc.com> uunet!csfb1!dwarren writes:
>I think I've invented a new triathlon I'd like to try.  In New York's 
>Central Park, one circuit around the park is around 10K.
>
>  30K on bicycle
>  20K on rollerblades
>  10K running
>
>I'd shoot (aggressively) for under three hours.

Three hours seems a bit long. Let's do some math....
I will convert everything so we can all get an idea of 
some of the times from a standard point of view:
Since I am only unsure of the blading I will work backwards:
-----------

A 30k bike would be 18.64 miles and let's say we
average 23MPH since we are not talking about any killer hills.
This would bring us in with a split of about 49min. Next we will
figure out the run. How about a 7 minute mile, which gives us
about 8.57MPH. This would bring our run split in at about 54
minutes. We now total 103 minutes or 1:43. This leaves us with
77 minutes to do 20K or 12.43miles on the blades. We would have
to maintain a speed of 9.71MPH on blades. This is rather slow for
blades and you should be able to get your run split under 45 if
you try. 

Anyway just a note to let you know that this tri should easily be
able to be finished well within the 3hr timeframe. If you are using
this circuit for training purposed I would suggest keeping track of
your splits and working with that. Let us know how it goes. 

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From: RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Kirelin and HGH
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:28:20 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <Jul.30.00.00.04.1992.17899@remus.rutgers.edu>,
clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) says:
>
>Has anyone else watched the Unified Team's super-heavyweight
>wrestler?  He's 6'3", 287, with almost *no* bodyfat!  The guy
>is a monster.  He claims to be natural, but one look at his
>face and it seems obvious that he's used human growth hormone
>(and probably every other steroid under the sun).
>--
>Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618
>
>"In a study of schoolboys, an educator discovered a correlation between size
> of feet and quality of handwriting.  The boys with the larger feet were,
> on the average, older."        Wallis & Roberts, _The Nature of Statistics_

Now How do you KNOW that? steroids,growth hormone etc.

Are you an expert on chemical enhancement of performance?

The new york times had an article about him a few weeks ago and they did not sa
y anything except that he was a shoo-in for the gold!

Don't make unfounded accusations and create a stir!

rajagopalan
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Forearm Pain (revisited)
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:06:51 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <l6u6qaINNpmf@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, hitman@zztop.EBay.Sun.COM (Michael A. Scalise) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> There was an article posted not too long ago about forearm pain during
> curl exercises.  For the past month or so I've been experiencing the same
> pain, especially trying to do curls with either the straight or curling
> bar so I've stop using them altogether and used mostly the dumbbells.
> (Seems the pain isn't as great as using the straight or curling bar)
> My question is, what treatment is recommended for an injury like this?
> Also how long does it take for this to heal?  Will using a wrap around
> the forearm help any?  I know I'm not getting the gains I would like 
> through just the dumbbells alone so I'm really anxious to get back to 
> the curling bars even if it means enduring the pain.  It's becoming very 
> frustrating so any suggestions are welcomed!
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael

         I have experienced the same kind of pain.  It feels like it's right in
the bone.  In my opinion, I think that it has to do with yhow you hold the bar
and how you bring it down after the contraction.  I haven't been able to pin-
point the source, but I have changed my grip to a wider grip on the preacher
curls and I haven't had a problem in about 6 months.
DO NOT go back to your regular arm workout until the pain has gone away.  It 
got so bad for me at one point that I couldn't even bench correctly.  It takes
a while for the pain to go away, partly because that part of the arm is very
active no matter what kind of a workout your doing.
My suggestion to you is to go easy for awhile depending upon how you feel.  Then
change your grip and really try to isolate your biceps in the move.  I don't
think that using a wrap around the forearm will help.  I usually use wraps just
to give me a good grip, not as support.

-Rob
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: boyd@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Bonnie L. Boyd)
Subject: Re: gymnastics
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Distribution: misc
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:48:27 GMT

In article <ARA.92Jul23073029@camelot.ai.mit.edu> ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler) writes:
>
>I used to love doing gymnastics in high school. I'm now 44 and overweight and
>out of shape. I would like to get back in shape and then start doing gymnastics
>again, even if at a very low level (I was never too good at it to begin with).
>
>The problem is that at all the universities I have been, the gymnastic
>equipment is unavailable except to the gymnastics team, if there is one.
>So there are no opportunities to learn gymnastics and use gymnastic
>equipment. I'm talking about parallel bars, horse, ropes, high bar, rings and 
>tumbling.
>
>So how does one find such opportunities?
>
>I don't consider purchasing the equipment an option since I have no room for
>it and since working alone would be hazardous and I wouldn't learn anything
>and above all I can't afford it.
>
>I assume that it will take me some time to get in shape, so I don't mind 
>hearing a long term solution.
>
>Allan Adler
>ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu

hi allan,

you might try contacting a local community college or high school for 
information on adult sports classes. i know that i've seen references
to (low end) gymnastics programs for adults in adult-ed type news
flyers. it might be that at a public gym near you (possibly even a ym/ywca
) you might find some courses that will help you get the gymnastics
experience you desire.

good luck!

boyd

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sar@philabs.philips.com (Sidney A. Rosenzweig)
Subject: Nausea during/after lifting
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:11:09 GMT

I've been lifting for about three weeks. I've been doing seven exercises
on Universal equipment, as guided by a book I bought. I do three sets of
12 reps of these exercises.
My problem is that somewhere between the second and third sets, I become
very nauseous. For a while, I thought that the inclined sit-ups were the
culprit, but I've eased off the sit-ups, and still get sick.
I usually eat a pretty big lunch, and lift at about 5:30pm.
Has anyone else had this problem? Sometimes I can't finish my third set
because I feel like puking so badly.

Thank You
Sid
sar@philabs.philips.com
From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Heartrates...
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:08:26 GMT
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Originator: stgprao@xing

At the moment it is 50 for a 40 year old.

I am probaly 90% of peak.  100% of peak is defined as a sub-three hour
marathon.  It would take me 3.5 hours if I ran one this afternoon.  I have
done five 20-mile, 5000 feet peak bags this season.

Resting pulse goes up when
(1) About 10-15 beats for 10-15 pounds of winter fat,
(2) About 5-10 beats after a large meal,
(3) About 5-10 beats on the fourth fifth day I've run or hiked in in row
(overtraining).
Resting pulse goes down when
(4) About 10 beats when I am dieting,
(5) About 5 beats on rest days,
(6) On an empty stomach.

Rest pulse was 85 just before I started daily running 15 years ago and was
25 pounds heavier.

I use the pulse as an indicator for taking rest days and starting a diet.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Questions About Low Carbo Diet
From: bkreed@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:10:31 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <1992Jul21.170002.10660@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, drv@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dennis.r.vogel) writes:
> I'm looking for information about a low carbohydrate diet for weight loss.
> I have questions like how does it work (nutritionally), are there any
> bad side effects of it, how long must or can one stay on it, etc.
> 
> Pointers to written materials would also be welcomed.
> 
> Dennis R. Vogel
> AT&T Bell Laboratories
> Middletown, NJ
-- 
Low carbohydrate?  I wouldn't advise it.  Sure you can lose weight by
cutting down on carbo's, but you will do it at the expense of energy
and can affect the quality of workouts.  The best way to lose fat is
to cut down on fat in your diet and to exercise.  The specific program
(or diet) really depends on how much weight you want to lose and how
much you want to restrict your eating.

Idealy your diet should consist of 15% protein, less than 30% fat, and
the rest carbohydrates. (Some people will argue with the exact
percentages, but I think that most will agree that many Americans eat
way too much fat in their diets.)  You can cut the fat way down if you
wish.  The human body does not require much. (But does require some to
perform some functions.

The only way to lose fat is to eat fewer calories than you expend.
You can either cut down on the amount you eat (calorie wise) or burn
more through exercise.  One thing to remember is that if you don't
exercise and just diet you can also lose muscle mass as well as fat
.
It just occured to me that you might know all this.  If so, please
ignore me.  Otherwise I hope this is helpfull.

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From: amelito@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Amelito Enriquez)
Subject: Re: Ravenous appetite among lifters
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:05:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.205319.20046@news.columbia.edu> arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Aaron R Wininger) writes:
>Cool! A fellow small-sized weightlifter. I'm also 5 feet 2 inches, and weigh 
>100 +/- 2 lbs. I've been lifting for 2 years and now bench 145 lbs,which isnt
> much, but thats 145% of my weight, do 160 lbs. on the lats machine,(40 
>chin-ups), and so-on. My problem is, unlike u, i cant seem to put on any 
>weight, i weighed 100 last year, and 2 years ago also when i started. I've
>definitely put on muscle, and definetly increased my strength (but it appears
>that proportionally I'm not as built as compared to a "big" person who benches
>the proportional amount of weight). 
>
>I've always been skinny, so it isnt that muscle replaced fat, now im just lean.
>
>Any suggestions, advice, (do u have problems balancing etc., I need somebody to
>hold me down,pull me down, when i do the lats machine etc.)
>
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Aaron Wininger                               Columbia Plasma Physics Laboratory

In my case, I had always been skinny before I started lifting--never over 100 lbs.
I don't think I did anything special; I just started to really love lifting.  I
have been lifting regularly for the last 4 years.  I tried to work-out with guys
bigger (and taller) than me so that I can really push myself.  On days that I
do not have a spotter, I try to do "safer" exercises (e.g., dumb-bells instead 
of barbells, squats on Smith machine, pull-ups instead of pull-downs where I 
need a spotter to hold me in place, etc.).
	I think that we are lucky to be short!  I find that I show my muscular
development sooner than taller guys.  I had most of my gains during my first
two years of lifting, although I look much harder now than I did two years ago.
	I guess my advice is train hard and eat like a pig!
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: side effects of carbonated beverage consumption?
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:07:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Jul28.160739.29439
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Jul28.152452.17002@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>>Are there any major negative side effects from drinking 
>>carbonated beverages? Forget sugar, caffeine, etc-- does the
>>carbonation itself have an effect?
>CO2 dissolved in H20 produces carbonic acid (I forgot the exact
>formula).  This can wreak havoc on your digestive tract.

Whatever do you mean?  Carbonated water is not a very strong acid.
It pales compared to stomach acid.  The only problem I can imagine
is discomfort from drinking too many carbonated liquids too fast.

>It probably doesn't do much for your teeth, either.

Phosphoric acid in colas probably has a greater effect.
On the other hand, I've never heard of someone with
tooth decay which could be ascribed to drinking colas.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer