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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Asimov's cameo lost, too :-(
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:49:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.195420.20010@talon.ucs.orst.edu> stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
>
>Acting? Makeup? Why?
>
>It's a damn holodeck. They can generate whatever and whomever they want.
>They didn't need to zoom back to 19th century England to pick Moriarty,
>they certainly wouldn't need to zoom back to 20th century USA to get
>Asimov.

It's amazing that someone could miss the point so completely...

The reference was to a *real* actor, with *real* makeup, hired by Paramount
to play the part of a holodeck image of Asimov...

-- 
        Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche.
                      hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
                      Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: Locarno = Kirk (Spoilers "First Duty"))
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:41:50 GMT

ccmk@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.004658.10258@cco.caltech.edu>, tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>> kyle@uunet.uu.net (Kyle Jones) writes:

>>>I do not see Kirk's refusal to accept defeat _before he is
>>>defeated_ as a character flaw.  
>> 
>> I'm not claiming he, or anyone, should meekly lay down and die. I'm claiming
>> that anyone who goes in with the conscious *and unconscious* attitude of
>> "I cannot possibly fail, ever" is someone who deserves what he or she gets.
>> It reflects arrogance, and a major dose of hubris.  I don't fault Kirk for
>> fighting to the end; I fault him for refusing to ever admit that there 
>> *might* be a time when he can't trick his way out of trouble.

>"I cannot possibly fail, ever" is a symptom of a pathological
>misunderstanding of Kirk's character that hounds the "I hate Kirk"
>people in this newsgroup.  

Of course, I don't hate Kirk, so I have to wonder where this comes
from.

>I bow to Tim's and other's mastery of
>TNG folklore, but sometimes I think the view to so far back in
>the TOS past is a little revisionist.  The correct quote really
>should be something like "I will not fail, ever".  

Um...exactly how are you going to argue that fine a line?  Change the can to 
a will if you like; in my mind the "ever" is the key element.

>The emphasis is
>on the refusal to give in no matter the odds.  

That's not an "I will not fail".  That's an "I will not give up"; and I 
find that an admirable quality most of the time.  The "I will not fail"
is adolescent arrogance at its worst.

>BTW, for those who believe Locarno is a young Kirk, I don't believe
>we ever saw Kirk attempt to cover up a misdeed (mind you, we haven't
>seen him misdeed - except for perhaps marooning Khan and his genetic
>crazies in an unstable solar system!).  

Few if any people here have been arguing the parallel is an exact one, or 
that Kirk was as obviously venal a person as Locarno evidently was in some
ways.  My own emphasis has been on the Kobayashi Maru incident and the 
"I can't lose" attitude which the two share.

>While I'm on the subject...  The Kobyashi Maru incident was a test to
>be taken more than once, with the object to see how the student reacts
>to a "no-win" situation.  

And, presumably, to teach the student that just such situations exist.  Kirk
gave the teachers all the reactions they wanted, presumably; but he never
faced the crux of the test, it seems.  

Tim Lynch
From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why did the Glass Break! Cause and Effect
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:56:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: noiro.29E48550.3930
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <70068@ut-emx.uucp> jfrench@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jason French) writes:
>
>About the glass, Dr. Crusher
>might have the that particular drink replicated in a real glass.  Some drinks
>taste funny in plastic (or other materials) containers and to get the full
>effect she originally programmed the replicator that way.
>

Screw the replicator.  Maybe she just bought some drinking glasses at a
gift shop during some shore leave or something.

Regards,
Janis C.
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From: rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: NEEDED: StarDate for 'First Duty'
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:08:16 GMT
X-Bytes: 

   This is unbelievable.  Here in our area, the broadcast of
'First Duty' was 'joined in progress' due to a behind schedule
broadcast of thoroughbred racing results.  We were deprived of
the entire teaser and part of the first scene.
   So could some kind person please tell me what the StarDate
for his episode was?  (Before you suggest it, the usual re-
broadcast is going to be pre-empted by baseball, so that is
not an option.)
   Thanks.
RC


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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: SPOILEReview: "The First Duty"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:03:32 GMT

In article <338.29E28C90@gisatl.fidonet.org> deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org (David Deitch) writes:
>On Sat, 04/Apr/92 at 04:39, Jason Snell said this to All:
>
> JS> I think lots of them grow out of it. Lacarno's screw-up, however, was so 
> JS> great that he didn't get the chance. Wesley will. Picard did.
>
>     Larcono will become like that guy in TOS who hid aboard the Enterprise and  
>murdered a planet-member.  It was Kirk's friend from the Acadamy that ended in 
>a fight after silencing all the heartbeats <right>.  The guy went crazy because 
>he was a failure.

Ben Finney didn't murder anyone; he attempted to blame Kirk for his own
death (which obviously never happened.)  He was seeking vengeance because,
12 years or so earlier, JTK had placed him on report for ignoring the 
deteriorating condition of some radioactive engine component, while serving
on the USS REPUBLIC NCC1371.  That's why he was still a Lt. Cmdr, even tho
he was older than Kirk.


-- 
        Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche.
                      hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: ruhtra@turing.toronto.edu (Arthur Tateishi)
Subject: Re: hinged doors at SFA
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:56:26 GMT

In article <9204061916.AA19336@tyrell.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
>
>The Wes episode was all right, but I had one problem with it...
>
>Why the hell were there HINGED doors at SFA???

I think people are forgetting about one major point. In a starship,
space is probably more of a premium. Having automated doors probably
makes a LOT of sense when you want the ability to automatically seal
rooms as well.


-- 
"The first fact to face is that UNIX was not developed with security, in any
reliable sense, in mind; this fact alone guarantees a vast number of holes."
    -- "On the Security of UNIX", Dennis M. Ritchie
Arthur Tateishi                 ruhtra@turing.utoronto.ca
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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: Picard remembers Starburst (minor TFD spoiler)
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  6 Apr 92 23:28:28 GMT

ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:

>In article <1992Apr5.204636.23645@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, rvc40592@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bob Cadman) writes:
>>I hope this works:

>>... did you notice how when Geordi told Picard about the
>>valve (or whatever) being opened, Picard immediately knew exactly what
>>it was they were doing?  Isn't that just a wee bit to convenient?  (I
>>was also wondering if anyone remembered how long they said that 
>>maneuver had been banned at the academy ... 100 years?)

>  If Picard has actually immediately remembered the Starburst, that may indeed
>have been a little too convienient, but that isn't necessarily what happened. 
>When I heard Geordi (was it Data?  can't remember) announce that Wes had opened
>his "coolant interlock" my first thought was "Oh, they were trying to do
>skywriting in space."  Well, not being a Starfleet Academy graduate :), I
>didn't take it any further than that.  But Picard could have come to a similar
>conclusion and gone and looked it up in the computer, finding the Starburst.

Or _maybe_, just _maybe_, it was a legend at the school and common
knowledge among the cadets.  There are a lot of examples of stories
being passed along from one class to another at colleges -- why should
Starfleet Academy, especially as a military-style academy, be any
different?  Picard probably knew of the "legend", and Geordi's mention
of the coolant interlock happened to click with his memory of this
story, and he realized what the Nova squadron had been trying to do.

It seems perfectly reasonable to me that someone moderately familiar
with the methods and history of the flight team at Starfleet Academy
-- which it is perfectly reasonable to assume that Picard was --
should remember a routine that spectacular with so many cues.  

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu

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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Subject: Re: Worf as a Fighter
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:58:41 GMT
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA

v128r82w@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ralph L d'Ambrosio) writes:
: 
: A few minor *SPOILERS* in this post but nothing major.

: First of all
: 
:       On those occasions where Worf has gotten beat up, the oppenent
: usally (sp?) has somekind of advantage. ...

A good fighter knows when not to fight?

: and Second
: 
:       Worf has kicked but on several occassions. He killed Duras. 

A known coward (used poison).

:He  knocked out the mind rapiest in "Violations," 

whom Troi had already `soften up' with a few blows.

:and he beat up a Romulan in  "Redemtion." 

I'm not sure of "Redemption", but in "The Enemy" he beat up a Romulan who
was already wounded...

:Therefore, it would seem that Worf is not that bad as a fighter.

But he does need a little work...  :-)
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Subject: Re: soap opera gimmics?
From: litt@wittenberg.edu
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:36:27 -0400
Organization: Wittenberg University

Could someone please explain "soap opera gimmics"?
People keep talking about how the use of Mr. Kyle and such constitutes a soap
opera gimmic, but I do not follow.  What is wrong with an occasional reoccuring
minor character?
on a different topic, sorry but I am glad to see Alexander go.
From: snoopy@brchh529.BNR.CA (Antonio Tello)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Odds of Ships colliding in space are...
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:54:46 GMT
Reply-To: snoopy@brchh529.BNR.CA (Antonio Tello)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1992Mar29.203218.45945@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>,
kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick) writes:
|>While we are talking about Poker and odds.....
|>
|>Isn't it highly improbable that two ships in as large an expanse as
|>space would COLLIDE with each other?

I would say they are similar to the odds of two ships at sea colliding
(Which does happen)

|>
|>(unless these space rifts are somehow connected in very narrow tunnels).
|>
|>Overall, I liked the episode, especially when Data deciphered the 
|>"voices of 5 couples" doing, well, you know :-)

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From: kyle@uunet.uu.net (Kyle Jones)
Subject: Re: Kobyashi and Kirk
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:15:10 GMT

nathans@coos.dartmouth.edu (Nathan Shafer) writes:
 > Where does this come from, btw, that he found out about the
 > simulation beforehand? he only reprogrammed it after having taken it
 > three times, not prior to his first time taking it!

I thought I either heard it in the movie or read it in the
novelization.

ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
 > If that's the case, then he faced death in the simulation three times.
 > How can you say he refused to take advantage of what they were offering
 > him?  He took advantage of it three times!
 > 
 > Then he said, "Enough is enough!  I'm going to beat this *$#*% thing!!!"

This would be a rather glaring incosistency and would utterly
kill the scane with David at the end, so clearly something else
must have happened.  Maybe Kirk reprogrammed the simulation three
times?

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From: urgent@wam.umd.edu (Gent-Secret A)
Subject: Re: OPINIONATED COMMENTS (SPOILERS for THE FIRST DUTY)
Keywords: doors
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:40:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.202026.19520@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> lawrence@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Chris Lawrence) writes:
>	Ever notice that the door to wesley's room had a door knob. (20th 
>century one at that). Now why do you suppose they didn't have sliding doors?
>
>Beats me! They have them everywhere else.  hmm.....
>
>			GrowlTiger 
> 
>
>
See "Family". Picard's brother's abode had no sliding doors if I recall.

I think the only reason we see sliding doors on space vessels is so they
can be automatically closed during depressurisation. It's kinda ridiculous
to have powered doors everywhere, don't you think (I still think power
windows in cars are pretty silly, appealing to a misplaced sense of
"luxury" and laziness, although they do have their place.)

david


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From: HADCDJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A)
Subject: Re: What happens to BOSEMAN now in TNG-Time Line?
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:55:22 GMT
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In <1992Apr16.153632.7935@unix.brighton.ac.uk> wjmc@unix.brighton.ac.uk writes:

> > [...]
> > ... a being with
> > a non-linear sense of time (like Guinan).
> > [...]
> 
>  What IS Guinan ?

	Guinan is one whale of a plot device in a big hat.

Jammer Jim
aka Captain Thevinen Salar, CO USS EXCALIBUR
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From: HADCDJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A)
Subject: Re: Troi's Mom-To Know Her Is To Hate Her
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:04:39 GMT
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In <1992Apr15.184602.6385@cbfsb.cb.att.com> kalel@cbnewsg.cb.att.com writes:

(diatribe against Mrs. Rodenberry deleted)

	Ahem.  Well, at least you aren't suppressing your feelings!  However, I 
do belive you're being a bit harsh in your estimate of her acting ability. While
her turn as Nurse Chapel was hardly Academy Award material, I've seen plenty
worse in regular, successful tv show and movies.  Which is not an excuse, I 
grant, but should be taken into consideration.
	I think she does just fine as Troi's mom, and brings a degree of breathy
humor which the show can use now and again.  And her dramatic turn in the 
episode with the scientist (played by David Ogden Stiers) who is returning home
to die (I forget the name of the episode) ought to make a believer out of you.
	As for the nepotism charge, in this case I can only say, if she's doing
a good job (which I say but you don't -- a valid opinion, i just disagree), who
cares?

Jammer Jim
aka Captain Thevinen Salar, CO USS EXCALIBUR
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From: eaustin@ll.mit.edu (Eric J. Austin)
Subject: Locarno's attitude. SPOILERS for THE FIRST DUTY
Originator: eaustin@ll.mit.edu (Eric J. Austin)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington MA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 17:50:14 GMT


SPOILERS for THE FIRST DUTY follow

I have not seen any mention in the Locarno discussion here about
some of his behavior that I thought was very revealing. The first time
we saw Locarno was when Picard and Bev were visiting Wes. Locarno
came into the room and saw a captain and a commander standing there
but he did not come to attention or show respect to them. Picard said
something like "at ease" but Locarno had never been at attention anyway.
Locarno then came into the room and Wes introduced them. Locarno then offered
his hand to Bev and Picard. Social, and I am sure pseudo-military like
Starfleet also, protocal calls for the higher ranked person to offer
to shake hands with the lower, not the other way around.
When I saw this it immediately told that me that this was a character 
who felt very full of himself. Contrast this with the way Wes came to 
attention when Lt.Cmdr. Albert came into the hall later in the episode.

You might say this was an oversight (but they remembered with Wes) or that
it is trivial and not important (not important that a cadet show respect
for a captain?) but I think it was the first indication of Locarno's character.

-- 
 Eric J. Austin                       EMAIL: eaustin@ll.mit.edu
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From: jkramer@sunwise.UWaterloo.ca (Viscous Pig Dog)
Subject: Re: Kirk and the Kobayashi Maru (was Re: Locarno = Kirk)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:03:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.220848.29790@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
> [Stuff that I don't agree with]

It looks like we won't come to a concensus (sp?) on this issue.

Jeff Kramer.





-- 

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 I tell ya boy, your mother's the better man" , Foghorn Leghorn.
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From: whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: "The Naked Now" deserves a break
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:19:04 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Followups-to: rec.arts.startrek.misc


	Followups (I hope) directed to r.a.s.misc.

v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>     That's not true.  The purpose of "The Naked Now," even in final
>     form, was supposed to be the creation of a venue where we could
>     see into the core of each of the new characters, what made them
>     tick, etc.  Dorothy Fontana's original draft sought to do just
>     that.

[...]

>     Roddenberry's rewrite turned it into nothing more than a fuckfest,
>     unintentionally funny and nothing more than a cheap rip-off of
>     the TOS episode.

	I wouldn't say it was a total loss; some interesting insights
survived, like Riker's I-can't-afford-to-be-effected-by-this reaction.

						John Whelan

--
	"You can't possibly be a scientist if you
	mind people thinking that you're a fool."
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				   _and_Thanks_for_All_the_Fish_
From: johnsos@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (johnson scott andrew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: _Disinherited_ opinions (Re: New TOS Book ... info)
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:20:06 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

In article <1992Apr15.142455.27238@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca (Edna Mueller) writes:
>chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>
>>Spoilers
>^L
>>I found the errors in contintinuity distracting.
>
>>Just after Wesley signs off his communications with Kirk on the...
>            ^^^^^^
>	       WHAT??????
>
>	Has the little weasel gone through a time warp or 
>	something?  Please tell me it isn't so.
>	Perhaps its Wesely Crusher, Sr. (father of Jack
>	Crusher, grandfather of Wesley).  Using similiar
>	names from one series in another is just too
>	distracting!  Arghhhhhh!
>
>			Edna
>			(Just call me Schmeby, everyone else does!)
>					    mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                "Oops". -- Jean-Luc Picard, "Pen Pals"
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>	
Well, Wesley's GRANDFATHER was never in Starfleet (as least not that we know.)

But his GREAT-GRANDFATHER, Ensign Delbert Crusher, served on the Excelscior 
under Captain Sulu, and had a brief appearance in ST6....

You know, the guy played by Christian Slater.......  :)

/sj/
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Another flaw in "Cause and Effect"?
Date: 6 Apr 1992 06:25:20 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailstorm.berkeley.edu
Originator: goldfarb@hailstorm.berkeley.edu

	I've been killing a lot of the discussion on "C&E" lately, so I
don't know if this has already come up. My apologies if it has. First,
the spoiler protections.



	When I watched the episode a second time, it seemed to me that
on the last iteration of the loop, they encountered the time warp earlier
than in the three previous ones we saw.

	Iteration 1: They encounter the loop during the morning meeting
at 0700 hours.

	Iteration 2: Ditto.

	Iteration 3: They call the meeting early because of Beverly,
Geordi, and Data's discovery of the loop. However, some time is taken
up in setting up the message.

	Iteration 4: It's not specifically stated, but the meeting this
time around is a near-duplicate of the previous one, so we can infer that
it is early too. They encounter the time warp *during the early meeting*.

	Can anyone rationalize the chronology here? Or is it just a slip,
like the failure to show the tractor beam?

-- 
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"Baldrick, you wouldn't know a cunning plan if it came up, bit you on the
behind, and sang three choruses of a song set to the tune of 'I am a Pirate 
King' called 'I am a Cunning Plan'."
From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why not down ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:30:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr11.223037.20142
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) says:

>How come the Enterprise - D crew never thought to go down instead of to the
>side. Space is not restricted to sideways manuevers, so this constand
>moving to the side is odd.
>
>I have only ever seen this done in TWoK, when the Enterprise and Reliant
>are going at it.
>
>Think of it, the Big-E goes down, the Boseman misses the ship clear and eay
>the first time....
>
     What about when he performed the Picard Maneuver 11 (?) years before that
episode where the Ferengi tried to get revenge on him by making him think he
was back there, and tried to make him do it against the Enterprise.  It seems
to me he used the z-axis then.
     Maybe that's why it was such a surprise :-)
-- 
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 Trying to follow in the path of our :     "A baby is an inestimable
Lord;anything close will be a success:  blessing and bother."--Mark Twain