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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bkotecha@cix.compulink.co.uk (Bipin Kotecha)
Subject: Re: Fixation with Tall, dark h
Reply-To: bkotecha@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:01:00 +0000

olia)

> > 
> >--  
> > 
> >>ZZtop, Pink F, LedZep, Queen are wimps!!      e-mail:
> >>ngopalas@buster.eng.ua.edu 
> >>Gimme Guns n Roses anyday! 
> >
> >I cannot believe that I am actually replying to someone with
> >prejudices different from mine - one who likes the racist band
> >Guns and Roses.
> >
> Why must I agree with a bands political and social ideology to appreciate their
> music? Except for one song (One in a million), the rest of GNR music is not racist 
at
> all. Besides, Slash is even half black. This is like saying you won't listen to 
> Clapton because you are against drug use(remember Cocaine?).
> 
> 
> 
> >John Ainikkal
> >'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
> 

Surely you are not comparing cocaine (ab)use with racism?


Bipin


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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:30606 talk.abortion:35618
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
From: <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 10:50:30 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center


-
-The point is that Bush and Quayle are playing politics with this
-issueby taking a fundamentalist conservative position while hedging
-it with exception clauses.
-
-I think an absolute pro-life stand, though guided by sound reasoning and
-subjective assumptions, leads to bizarre situations: a twelve year-old,
-raped by a bunch of hooligans, being forced to give birth to the
-child or face the electric chair for first degree murder. And we have
-the audacity to think Islamic law is barbaric!
-
-Satya Prabhakar

I completely agree with all this.  However, when the extreme positions on
one side are severely and repeatedly criticised, and all positions on the
other side are tacitly approved by NOT being criticised, then I smell a
rat!  My question again, what is your opinion on the mother who takes
cocaine a few hours before labour, the child is harmed and the Conn.
high court says, "sorry, but no `person' was harmed", because the harm took
place while it was still in the womb. To be credible, criticism must be even
sided.

Rohit Parikh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kgc@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Looking for M.N.Sheshagiri Rao-H'Bad
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:34:49 GMT

I am Looking for Mr. M.N.Sheshagiri Rao from Hyderabad.  Please contact me if
any any body knows about him.

Thanx.

K.G.C
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.usa
From: deepak@konark.njit.edu (Deepak Kakadasam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: DESI FEMALE Looking for Match!
Keywords: DESI MATCH
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:37:28 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1572@rwja.umdnj.edu> gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu (Srihari Gopal) writes:
>
>Okay all you  frustrated desis out there:
>
>My friend does not want to be revealed for her own personal reasons. She
>did want me to give out her e-mail address however, as I listed in the
>........................................................................
>She's presently doing her Ph.D., and she is originally from South India.
>She speaks the following languages: Telegu, Kannada, Tamil, Hindi, Gujurati,
>........................................................................
>down. She holds a green card, and she hasn't decided whether she wants to
>go back to India or not after her studies. I think she is looking for a guy
>who was raised in India, and preferably has done some studies here.
>
>Please don't mail me anything. I dont want to hear anything from you guys
>out there. Direct all mail to:
>lrao@rwja.umdnj.edu
>
>
>Srihari Gopal
>    

Hey Sri, Why dont you yourself marry her?????????

-Deepak
--
VLSI:=> "Getting High On Low Voltage"
From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Need Email address of IIM, Bangalore !
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:55:31 GMT


Hi there:

	I've been trying to locate the E-mail address of IIM, Bangalore but haven't
been successful so far. I used the database maintained in India (at sangam.ernet.in)
but it didn't have any info on IIM, Bangalore. The FAQ posted on SCI gave the node
name for IIM, Bang. as "iimb" but I can't seem to "finger" it with :

		whois -h sangam.ernet.in iimb

The same command with "bang" at the end (instead of "iimb") gives me a listing of 
all sites in Bangalore but *not* IIM.

	Could someone having the correct address of IIM, Bangalore please mail it 
to me at:

		rajain@sml3.ecs.umass.edu
	or	rajain@ecs.umass.edu

		Thanks in advance.....

				Rajat.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kasinadhuni@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Lavkush from Minneapolis-respond
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:28:15 GMT

Lavkush!                                                               
      Respond immediately-Satish.
From: CS19242546G@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (JUNACKO, STEVEN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nepal
Subject: Price of a sitar
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:22:45 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

Hi-

Could someone tell me the price of a general sitar (common sitar -
not really good one) in Nepal.

Thanks.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 14:46:08 MST
From: <ASRPA@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nepal
Subject:    Re: I am going over to NEPAL!

Hi Ken,

     I tried to reach you through e-mail. Somehow it did not work.
Anyway, I have a friend here in Phoenix, Arizona who used to work
for trekking agencies in Nepal. He does not have access to the net.
You might want to reach him at (602)943-0789. His name is Kabindra.
He is very cooperative.

     I hope this helps. Please share your experiences about trip
after you come back from Nepal.

     Have a nice trip.

--- Rameshwar.
From: asuwal@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Amod Suwal)
Subject: try
Keywords: try
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:40:41 GMT

It's my first attempt in posting in this newsgroup. I hope it works.
I'm curious to know how many nepalese are residing in USA ?

T/Y
Amod

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nepal
From: gnreddy@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (G.Narotham Reddy)
Subject: 55 people  killed in a road accident
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:15:52 GMT


Source	: All India Radio
Date	: Sept 7, 1992, 03:30 IST


According to AIR news, atleast 55 passengers were killed when a bus
carrying 63 people was hit by a boulder.

No further details were provided.

Regards,

Narotham
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nepal,soc.culture.netherlands,soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.nordic
From: escmar@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Mar Siew Cheong)
Subject: Re: Compatability of electrical equipments
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:52:52 GMT

 Testing only.
 All inconvenience caused is regretted.

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From: rahman@ces.cwru.edu (Rahman A. Soomro)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nepal
Subject: Rain Relief Fund
Date: 9 Sep 1992 19:46:49 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: easy.ces.cwru.edu


Dear friends,

Recent rains in Pakistan have caused devastating effects on the 
daily life of the Pakistani people. Scores of people have lost there
lives and more than a million have been homeless.

	I appeal to you to help our brothers and sisters in need
and donate some money to help them. Please send your contribution
(tax deductible) with your name and also I request you to collect 
donations from any source -- your colleagues at work, friends, business
associates, customers, persons from any nationalities and backgrouds
to help people in trouble. 

	We are tying you help suffering peoples, who are suffering
from disease and malnutrition.

Please mail your contributions to:

Pakistan Rain Relief Fund
4105 Providence drive
St. Charles, MO 63304
USA


Newsgroups: soc.culture.nepal
From: walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,)
Subject: Re: Scots or Picts (was Celtic alchoholism?)
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:13:12 GMT

From article <BuF6qI.5Do@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, by dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning):
> walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,) writes:
> 
> I don't know how often I've heard this story about people painting their
> bodies and rushing naked into battle.
> 
> Have these people any idea how cold it is here????
> Hypothermia perhaps??
> 

I know it was not really paint, they were just blue from the cold
(especially if they had just gone for a swim in the North sea at the
high of summer).

														GW
From: mbrennan@bbn.com (Maeve Brennan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: What is Ireland's national anthem?  Is there one?
Date: 8 Sep 1992 21:46:27 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: mbrennan@spcink.bbn.com (Maeve Brennan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Sep8.181424.25765@news.nd.edu> ulick@angelico.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:
>by Derriers on Summer holidays in Donegal.  In my experience far more Irish
>people are likely to sing their anthem, than is normal, which explains
>why there was great resentment last year at one of the All-Ireland's when
>a soloist was brought in to sing it before the match.
>What happened this year?  

I would think that many Irish people do not know more than the first
couple of lines of the national anthem (in Irish), myself included.  
This was confirmed to me a couple of years ago when a Dublin radio 
station went through the streets of Dublin randomly asking people if 
they knew the words and could sing it.  Most people surveyed did not 
know it, though they made amusing attempts at the first cupla focal.

I have no idea how proficient other nationalities are in singing
their national anthem, so I would find it difficult to make
comparisons.  I should think that Americans would be
pretty good in this respect.
From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Abair: for Advanced Scottish Gaelic learners
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:05:25 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England


The info below is from an advert in the CLI newsletter:

Abair - New Gaelic videos for advanced learners

Abair comes in a pack of two videos (VHS, UK format) containing the
entire 16 programmes of the television series Abair. Total running
time approx 4 hours 52 mins. Cost #16 for both videos including P&P.

An accompanying book "Abair" is also available. Containing the entire
transcription of the 16 programmes, it is an advisable purchase to
assist with the dialogue on video.

Beautifully documented and illustrated, the book is now available at
the reduced price of #7.50 including postage and packing.

The above can only be purchased from:
Comunn na Gaidhlig, 5 Mitchell's Lane, Inverness, IV2 3HQ
Acair Ltd, 7 James Street, Stornoway, Isle of Lewis, PA87 2QA

Please make cheque payable to either of the above depending on the outlet
contacted.

Abair Vidoes #16.00
Abair Book #7.50
Vidoes and Book #23.50

(I would guess that Intermediate learners might also benefit from the above)
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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 15:56:54 -0400 
From: Dale.James@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Kilt availability.

I've recently discovered that I am of Scottish ancestry, the MacPherson clan
in particular.  I went to the Highland Games, a sort of Scottish heritage
festival, in Ligonier, Pennsylvania this past weekend, and was looking at
kilts.  Summer kilts were going for around $200-300, and heavy winter kilts
were going for about $400-500.  Is there perhaps a more economical source
for these?  My girlfriend (McClure of the clan MacCleod) is also interested
in getting one.

Any responses welcomed.

Thanks in advance,
--Dale

Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: james@wrs.com (James Moore)
Subject: Re: Celtic languages (was: Re: FYI - Politics in NI)
Reply-To: james@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:07:43 GMT

sloubtin@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Sylvain Louboutin) writes:

>I know (and I still resent having been kicked out (at least my
>ancestors) our land by these anglo-saxons barbarians who should be sent
>back to where they belong somewhere near Danemark :-) :-) :-)
>Nevertheless,  Breton is now spoken in Brittany which *is not* insular.

It's an insular Celtic language by original, not by current, location.
Brittany was resettled by people from southern Britain, who brought
their language with them when they returned to the continent.  It's
not directly descended from the continental Celtic languages.

-- 
James Moore                            /|\                        james@wrs.com
Wind River Systems                     \|/                  Alameda, California
	 "Half of what he said meant something else, and the other half
			  didn't mean anything at all"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,)
Subject: Re: Scots or Picts (was Celtic alchoholism?)
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:11:21 GMT

From article <26277@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, by mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm):
> Graham Walker writes:
> #>ago, but the Callanish standing stones were erected about 5000 years ago
>  ...
> #>of Space on PBS, have you notices that when Steve Hill plays (wait for
> #>it) "Celtic space music" he often plays a piece called (approximately)
> #>the Standing Stones of Callanish, which seems a little odd since the
> #>people who erected those stone were not Celts. 
> 
> How do you, or how does anyone, know whether the erectors of Callanish
> &al were, or were not, "Celts"?

Point taken, however, since Callanish is dated from 3250 BC to 1500 BC
(I did check this up this time) and the earlier date was befor the
arrival of the Celts in Scotland (that is even if we assume the Picts were
Celts) the Celts probably did not start the circle, nor would they have
contributed to the major part of the building of the circle. Certainly, by
1500 BC the Picts could have been resident in Scotland and may have
contributed to the final significant modifications to the circle, but by
far the major portion of the work was done by an non-celtic people (if
my reference is correct).

If anyone wants to find information about stone circle there are a good
collection of references in a book called "Overlay" by Lucy Lippard
(Pub. Pantheon).  This particular book is concerned with the feminist and
matriarchal aspects of prehistoric and Celtic/Pictish art forms and the
link with the mythologies associated with these cultures. Also, if you
want to find any of these prehistoric sites in Scotland I would
recommend "Guide to Prehistoric Scotland" by R. Feachem (Pub. Batsford);
this book does not have to much background information but it does list
a large number of sites and provides grid references.

															GW
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From: ctwomey@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Sheela-na-gig
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:10:03 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <95725@bu.edu>, merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
> On the new album DRY the band PJ Harvey(lead guitarist of the same name)
> has a son titled "Sheela-na-gig". Is this gaelic? If so what does it
> mean?
> 
> The line in the song goes "Sheela na gig, you exhibitionist!"

A have a vague recollection of reading an article in the Irish Times some
time ago describing a minor controversy about Sheela-na-gig's in the National
Museum here in Dublin.  A Sheela-na-gig is a pre-christian(?) stone statue of a 
female form with (how shall I put this) - with emphasis on the genetalia.
The article in the paper described the quandary of the Museum - when the 
statues were exhibited there were complaints from some people who were 
offended by them, when they were not exhibited there were compaints from 
those who wanted them displayed.

I'm sure there are others who read this group who know much more than I 
on the subject...

Colum.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: What clan and what tartan?
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:11:16 EDT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <20159@drutx.ATT.COM>, mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior) says:
>
>This is my first posting to s.c.c, so I hope you'll excuse any errors.
>
>My husband comes from Irish and Scottish origins.  We know his Irish side
>very well, but his Scottish origins are murky at best.  On a trip to
>Edinburough, his mother found a number of Scottish Bonhams listed on
>a war memorial.  So far, we've had no luck tracking down what clan the
>Scottish
>Bonhams are out of and what tartan would be appropriate.
I'm not sure you want to hear this, but, as far as I can remember, 'bonham'
is Irish for 'piglet'. (Though it is pronounced 'bonav' so logic tells me
that it should be spelt 'bonamh' but that's not how I remember it).

>
>Does anyone out there have a clue?  Thanks in advance!
>
>--
>-----------------------------
>SKY WARRIOR aka MLH Bonham  | "Good tea.  Nice House." -- Lt. Worf
>mammoth!mlhb@druhi.att.com  |----------------------------------------------
>mlhb@drutx.ATT.COM          | SKY WARRIOR RACING KENNELS - Coming to an
>                            | Iditarod near you!
>-----------------------------
Aengus
--
RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
"How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
"Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Loreena McKennet (sp?)
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:54:20 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.celtic
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

Just got her album (The Visit) and it is WONDERFUL.  Does anyone know where
one can get her other albums?

--
Rick Eames
athos@apple.com
My opinions are my own, thank you very much!
HERSCHENSOHN for US Senate.  Just say "No" to 6 years of Boxer!
From: mark@cs.hw.ac.uk (Mark Riordan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: The Irish National Anthem
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:59:48 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

Anyone put off by the full Irish version of the 
Irish National anthem may be pleased to know the
a significant amount of us get away with the
following

1. Start off with a rousing rendition of

         she na fee na fall

2. Now continue mouthing as appropriate
through the tricky bits. If watching 
football on telly it is best to choose 
the player you are miming to with great 
care.

3. Then as the crowd reaches a crescendo
join back in as loud as possible with

      shonny nonny owrawn na veen.

SIMPLE

After me. one two three.

MARK
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Re: What is Ireland's national anthem?  Is there one?
Followup-To: soc.culture.celtic
Organization: Rocking Pig Enterprises
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:39:04 GMT

In article <laq7pjINNcku@news.bbn.com> mbrennan@spcink.bbn.com (Maeve
"One Pound" Brennan) writes:

>I have no idea how proficient other nationalities are in singing
>their national anthem, so I would find it difficult to make
>comparisons.  I should think that Americans would be
>pretty good in this respect.

Except that the American anthem has about a four octave range, thus
making it real difficult for a lot of professional vocalists, let
alone the common folk.  Not the greatest tune for a national anthem!
(Good for a lot of comedy at baseball games, etc. though) I should
think that pretty much everybody knows the words to at least the first
verse anyway (that is, pretty much all Americans).

If anyone would be so good to post the lyrics for the Irish anthem,
either in English or Irish, I would be much obliged.  I remember that
some of the more popular pub bands in Galway would do it after their
last song (and most everybody would stand up and sing along... in
Irish), but I can't remember word one of it today.

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/'''   Kyle Wohlmut    -  'Heute back ich, morgen brau ich, und       
c-OO                   /   uebermorgen hol ich mir der Koenigin ihr      
   \   Rocking Pig     -   Kind.  Ach, wie gut dass niemand weiss,
  -     Enterprises    /   dass ich kyle@csli.stanford.EDU heiss.'    
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From: dml@philabs.philips.com (Damian M. Lyons)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: the name "Bhetty"
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:35:34 GMT
Organization: Autonomous Systems, Philips Labs, Briarcliff Manor, NY

In article <1992Sep11.190644.1765@nmt.edu> al@nmt.edu (Al Stavely) writes:
>
>On the CD _The Red Crow_ by Altan (an excellent traditional-style group from
>northwestern Ireland) there's a very nice tune called "Tommy Bhetty's Waltz".
>It's credited to one Tommy "Bhetty" Maguire of Co. Fermanagh.
>
>Does anyone know anything about the name or nickname "Bhetty"?  What does it

Its pretty common in Irish speaking parts of Ireland to refer to
someone by their forename with one of the parents fornames appended to
it in the genitive case. So Tom Bhetty is Betty's Tom, where Betty is
likely his mother. The choice of which parent is used seems
refreshingly non-sexist and democratic and depends on which of the
pair the folks talking to you know better. From my experience, the
system has no problem dealing with `foreign'  names such as Betty.

I often wondered if this naming convention gave rise to the use of
double name such as `Billy-Joe' and `Mary-Lou' which seems prevalent
in the so-called `Scotch-Irish' (sounding like an upalatable mixture
of whisk(e)ys) areas of Appalacia.  This could be tossed if if the
name convention is less than 100 or so yrs old. 

Damian.


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