From: agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Mormons are not Christians
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:00:33 GMT
Reply-To: agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct11.031643.592@macc.wisc.edu> bunner@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Dana A. Bunner) writes:
>In article <69Ck02pp25oP01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose) writes...
>>In article <1992Oct7.164938.27930@macc.wisc.edu> bunner@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Dana A. Bunner) writes:
>
>>>take offense at this.  LDS sensitivities are aroused when multiple 
>>>Christian groups begin denying them the title, however the LDS need to realize
>>>these groups deny each other the title too.  The LDS should learn to shrug
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Can you name a few?
>
>Oh come now.  Are you implying that various Christian sects do not take 
>issue with other Christian sects?  I haven't exactly kept records on this 
>type of activity but I've heard various sects blast others for false 
>teachings all of my life.

Most Christian denominations agree with all the others on issues that are
important to salvation.

>Some examples...
>
>The Baptist church I attended as a youth considered both the Church of Christ
>and Catholic churches in my town as false.  They routinely labeled their
>beliefs as unchristian.

They labeled the Catholic churches IN YOU TOWNas false.  That is no
problem!  That doesn't meant that the Catholic faith is necesarily false.
Some Catholic churches believe in all of the same things the Christian
churches beleive and they have no problem fellowshiping together.  Then,
again, some Catholic churches have fallen into teaching perverse teachings
and doctrines, thus, that church cannot be considered as Christian.  But
the same can apply for a Baptist, or Methodist, or any church for  that
matter.

The churches you are refering to could have been one of the ones I
described first.


>I've attended meetings of the Christian Missionary Alliance church which
>focused on exposing the falsehoods of several religions, indeed they held
>a regular series which were repeated every year or so.

If a religion is teaching things that are false, if the members of that
faith are interested in Truth, they should want to be told the Truth.
If what you believed was not true, and it was going to affect your
eternity, would you want to know about it?

>I've seen John Anken(r?)berg conduct televised programs against the Catholics,
>Lutherans, Jehovah's Witness, LDS, and many others.
>
>The Evangelical definition of basic Christian beliefs posted here a week or
>so ago would have excluded several major Christian religions.

No they wouldn't have.  You need to redecide which ones are Christian
religions.  Remember, anyone can claim to be a Christian and any
organization can claim to be a  Christian organization,  but when
exposed, we see the "truth" about that organization.

>I went into a "Christian" Bookstore three weeks ago and found an entire
>rack of publications whose purpose was to attack the beliefs of a variety
>of religions.

If the things in those books are telling the truth, then there is nothing
wrong with them being there.  If you thing they are lying, then why don't
you read them, find the errors, and get someone to do something about it.
Most of those books are interested in telling people the truth.  If the
XXXXX religion is proselyting members of the Christian faith, and that
religion is in fact in error, then the members of the Christian faith
have every right to know about it, before member of XXX religion knock on
their door.  They are not "Attacking" beliefs of the religionss.  They
are comparing the belifs, and showing why the different ones cannot be
considered as Christians, because they do not believe as the Christian
faith does.

You should consider what your church (assuming you are a Mormon, I
apologize if that assumption is incorrect) does.  They have over 41,000
missionaries world-wide going door-to-door approxiamately 10 hours a day
spreading the Mormon gospel.  Have you ever sat through those lessons?
If you have, then you know one of the early things they tell you if that
there was an apostacy in the Christian Church, that the LDS church is the
one true church, and that ALL others are wrong.  So, it is the same
thing, the Christians right books and have seminars, and the Mormons go
door-to-door.  The difference is, that you cannot prove anything wrong
about the seminars and books in the Christian book stores, but I can talk
with a Mormon missionary in my living room for hours and show how the
things he says cannot be backed up historically, scientifically, or
scripturally.  That in itself leads us to where the truth lies.  No pun
intended!
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