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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:55:26 GMT
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From:         Richard Letts <R.J.Letts@SALFORD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Difference between Primary, Default, Preferred Servers
              92 12:11 pm

KHALED ASSALI - KASSALI@ZIS.ZIFF.COM writes....
>
>
> -Primary Server is the one which you logged into first(then attached to
 others).
>
> -Default server is server to which your current directory is pointing to.
>
True, except if changed using the API calls..

> -Preferred server is the one specified is the CFG file unless it is overriden
>  by NETX /PS=XX in the command line.
No, UNTRUE. the /PS makes XX the DEFAULT server BEFORE the login
program is run, and POSSIBLY the PRIMARY server AFTERwards


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From: kasper@SYSNEXT.LIBRARY.UPENN.EDU (Stan Kasper)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: Xyplex, SLIP, IP Tunnel, Terminal Servers
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:40:53 GMT
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SLIP by itself is slow and my experience is that it is only useful for
e-mail and other low-traffic apps.  Now when you do SLIP and IP tunnel you
are really cutting down on the throughput.  You may want to investigate
other async alternatives.

On Fri, 18 Dec 1992, sga wrote:

>         We are interested in getting the new Xyplex Terminal 9000 series
> terminal server for our campus.  We are interested in using this as a
dial-in > for our Novell Servers as well as for our other hosts.  If you
have used > Xyplex products in the past, I would be interested in your
response to their > products. > > We are interested in using SLIP and IP
tunnelling for entry ways into > all of our hosts.  I would be interested
in finding out what some of you are > doing along this arena.  If you
would write me directly, I will summerize for > the list. > > Thank you
for all of you input (in advance) > > Scott Anderson > Manager, Network
Communications > Pepperdine University > Malibu CA >
anderson@pepvax.pepperdine.edu
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:11:41 EST
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From:         Robertson William <vw2487@WESTPOINT-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Pager server alert -via UPS

>My employers have recently given me a pager (I know, lucky me) so that
>I would like to set up an automated device to page me if one of my servers
>goes down.  I have an old XT and an old autodialing modem.  What I need is
>a program that would run on the XT and watch the server connections.  When
>a server goes down, the program would send the command sequence to the
>modem: ATDT1234567,,,,9999999#.  Viola!  I could put the XT on a cheap UPS
>so it would even call me if there was a power failure.
>SNAIL MAIL:                   INTERNET: duggan@brahms.udel.edu
>     Richard H. Duggan                  richard.duggan@mvs.udel.edu

You might call Best Power Technology Inc. @ 800-356-5794 (608-565-7200)

They make great ferro-resonant UPS's, which I use.
They have several versions on NLM's, VAP's, etc that can do several levels of
notifying users, running close-down commands, batch files that would call you
etc.
They also have a Sensaphone unit that can call you, or that you can call, that
gives info in english as to UPS/ power status, Temperature, lets you listen to
the ambient sounds, etc.   (I don't have this)
I'm not sure, but I think some of this may work even with other mfr, or no,
UPS.
Personnaly I believe power problems are the most likely reason for a server to
go down- even when it doesn't obviously look like it.
Mine's been up over 6 months, protected by a UPS from Best- others have
reported even longer.
 ( of course I also don't let users log in  {just kidding})

Bill Robertson, Info Syst Mgr, Directorate of Cadet Activities, USCC, USMA
 e-mail: vw2487@westpoint-emh2.army.mil Autovon:688-4176 Phn:914-938-4176

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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:20:47 -0800
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From:         Allen Lung <lung@EOS.ARB.CA.GOV>
Subject:      Novell and Schools

Im working with an administrator of a Network in a High School.   He is
ueing 2.15..  At one point He tryed to upgrade to 3.11, once the paper
work got through the upgrades were no longer available at a discounted
rate.  My question is does Novell work with schools under any special
condition. Ive herd they do,does anybody know what they offer??

Thanks in advance
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From: "alan gahtan" <alan.gahtan@canrem.com>
Subject: chat program for netware
Reply-To: "alan gahtan" <alan.gahtan@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: bit
Date: 20 Dec 92 11:06:04 EST

Try Infinite's CASTAWAY program.  It performs a number of functions:
1. Captures Netware broadcasts (i.e. SEND) and prevents them from 
halting your machine.
2. Hotkey access to a list of logged in users whom you can SEND a one 
line message two.
3. When you receive a message from another user, you can immediately 
REPLY.
Its only about $99 per file server.  Great program.  Automatically 
loads into UMB memory or high memory if available.

               Alan
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:29:28 MET
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From:         weber@RHRK.UNI-KL.DE
Subject:      Re: Trivial Request - How to Compare whole trees ?

In bit.listserv.novell Ros Wysall writes::
>Chris writes -
>> I moved several
>> subdirectory trees with XCOPY. Now before deleting the old tree
>> I wanted to compare all files in two directories AND their subdirecties
>> with each other in order to verfiy the copies. XCOPY /V wasn't an option
>> - I don't trust that whole program.

>with prompt at top of directory structure do

>tree /f > filename

>to pipe it to file.  Repeat for each directory structure, then use
>DOS comp command to compare files.  This will not check file sizes
>and dates, but will check the existance of the file.

hm... I don't think directory listings are that reliable - I doubt that
the sequence is the same every time.

>  I use xcopy
>frequently and find it totally reliable.

Well, my boss spent his saturday sorting out about 2000 files we had salvaged
from a deleted.sav directory. XCOPY had forgot some directories -
I assume it had a stack overflow or something like that, and I didn't check
for error messages before deleting the original - maybe there wasn't even one.
Anyway, chkdir reported about 5 MB less for the copy than for the original.
Also XCOPY won't copy hidden files. I really would prefer an independant
verification run.

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr

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From: slendt@unomaha.edu (Steven Lendt)
Subject: Any good one line Novell user training courses?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:58:29 GMT

We have a lot of folks on our campus that just want to learn the
very basics of how Novell works.  Like drive mappings, capture, etc.
Anyone know of any nice little on line training course(s) that
are simple for user to get going with on their own?
Thanx in advance...
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From:         "A.J. Sheehan" <GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK>
Subject:      RE: Can Q operators add Q users?

Queue operators can certainly hold, reorder or delete jobs from the queues
they are operating but they have no control


at all in the realms of adding
users to the queue or changing the print server configuration; this is purely
a matter for supervisor or equivalent.

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
From: PBC@CONDOR.CIRCA.UFL.EDU (Philip B. Chase)
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Subject: Re: Can Q operators add Q users?
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:05:15 GMT
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> From:          Angus Orde <A.Orde@LMU.AC.UK>

> Hi Dan,
>
> I haven't seen an answer posted to this one yet.
>
> You give people rights as a print queue operator under the specific print
> queue in Pconsole. It is not something that can be done when you create the
> user, unless you allow all members of a group to be print Queue Operators,
> and make your user a member of that group.
>

Groups are the only way to do this.  A super equivalent user must
create the group, give it operator status, and make the manager a
manager of that group (and users that would be inserted in it).
The manager then can add users to the group (or remove them).

Managers are not all powerful.  They can't set volume quotas either
without having more rights in my experience.  I think if they can
have full access to the volume root they can do it, but that is
certainly not desirable on SYS:.  Can anyone verify?

Philip
Philip B. Chase                          CIRCA, University of Florida
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:48:14 GMT-0800
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From:         "Tyrone C. Smith" <dtyrone@DACNEXT.AC.DUKE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Netware Questions (going from 2.2 to 3.11)

I can only answer question 3 which states:
>        3. How complicated is the move from 2.2 to 3.11?
and my answer is look at this week's TechLink (It should be in your
mailbox with everything else).
Here's the heading:
(Sorry about the formatting, the NeXT can get funny about such
things)

>     Novell Ships In-Place Upgrade to v3.11 from NetWare 2.1x and
2.2.
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------

>   You can now convert NetWare 2.1x or 2.2 Server to NetWare 3.11
directly!
>   (No longer are your forced to go from one server to another, or
to copy
>   the contents of the server's disk to interim storage during an
upgrade!)

I won't waste the net bandwidth with the rest, but I can send a copy
to you if you need one.  I think you should be able to get more info
from your favorite reseller.  Sorry if this should have been sent
directly but I thought some people may have overlooked the TechLink
stuff in their mail.
        -HTH,
        Tyrone C. Smith
        Consultant, Duke University
        =dtyrone@dacnext.ac.duke.edu
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:18:53 -0800
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From:         John Villalovos <villalj@INSTRUCTION.CS.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: Network Installation: Vendor vs. MIS

In article <01GS711WM9WY8WW4GV@mis.mcw.edu> you write:
>There has been much discussion in my department (MIS) recently about
>the installation of networks.  This all came to a front recently, when
>one office received a quote to upgrade a network from ArcNet to EtherNet.
>The cost of installing 2 hubs and 20 net cards was $3600, plus $500 to
>install 5 autoboot PROMS.  In are never ending quest to save a little cash,
>in this case a lot of cash, we are considering doing some of this stuff
>internally through MIS.

I would do the stuff yourself.  I have had clients at state organizations who
do a lot of the work themselves.  They only called me in when they couldn't
figure it out themselves.  The bought all their own network cards and installed
them themselves.

You might check out a company called Danpex.  The are located in San Jose I
think.  The area code is (408) so you can call information for the number.
I just recently bought some NE2000 compatible thin-net cards and they cost
$75 and if you want boot proms they were $6-$10 apiece.  They also sell
NE2000 compatible cards which are twisted pair (which sounds like what you
are doing) and they also sell hubs.  I think their warranty period is two years.

Later,
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From:         OBSchou <O.B.Schou@LUT.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Mouse balls and thiefs....

I have not a CLUE what Crazy Glue is - at a guess it is what we call
Sper Glue.

We simply SG the covers shut, and undo the screws to clean the mice.
The mouse cable is itself passed through a (crowded) padlock.

However, we can now get reasonable mice at 15 pounds (estimate: $US23)
so it suddenly  means duff, but otherwise glued mice can be simply
binned (or put on a bin for cle cleaning later, ie never).

Bertil.
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From:         Novell Mail Account <claris!novmail%kci.qed.cts.com@APPLE.COM>
Subject:      Netware Questions (going from 2.2 to 3.11)

Netware Questions:

        Hi, we currently have a 2.2 server running on a 386 machine and
        are considering moving to 3.11 for our server.  The following
        questions were raised during our discussions.  Any input on
        the following questions would be greatly appreciated.  Responses
        can either be posted here, or email to me.  I realize that these
        questions maybe in the FAQ, but I never seem to be able to get
        hold of that thing.

        Questions:

        1. We have a SUN IPC workstation that we would like the entire
        network to be able to access.  Currently we have one PC on the
        network with an ethernet card running LAN Workplace for DOS 4.0.
        This works fine for this person but we would like everyone to be
        able to access the SUN machine.  What do we need to do to allow
        users on the network (if we did go to 3.11) to access the SUN
        machine and if possible, have the SUN access our server.

        2. We would like to possibly put a SQL server or similar database
        engine on our server.  I am aware of Novell's Netware SQL v3.0
        product and was wondering if ther are any other similar products
        out there that are similar that we could look at.

        3. How complicated is the move from 2.2 to 3.11?

        Thanks

        NiCK

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novmail@kci.qed.cts.com (Novell Mail Account)
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From: MAH@MERC.RX.UGA.EDU (Mark Hall)
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Subject: Source Code for SMCPLUS.COM
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:00:27 GMT
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Hey - Does anyone know where I can pick up the source code for the
SMCPLUS.COM MLID?
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From:         John Hendriks <JDH@MEDICINE.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Fast Network Printers

Dear Members,
      We are about to replace some old IBM PROPRINTERS in the
student laboratory (max 15 PC users) running Novell netware. We would
like to know members opinions regarding the use of fast
Dotmatrix or Laser. I believe the yearly consummables and maintenance
costs are about the same for both. Is this true? The possibilities
are;
      * Compaq 20 ppm laser
      * HP IIISi
      * A Fast dot matrix 1800+ cps printer.

Trouble is - do such fast dot matrix printers exist. I would
appreciate any comments about the comparative virtues of laser
compared to dot matrix re running costs, and which brand of FAST
ROBUST dot matrix is best.

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From:         Mark Walters <MARK@UNIVERSITY.OFFICES.OX.AC.UK>
Subject:      3Com hubs and network management?

Hi!,

    We're about to install a new 10BaseT ethernet in one of our buildings
and are looking at the 3Com LinkBuilder ECS multi-port repeaters for the
hubs.  Does anybody have any experience with these units that they'd like
to pass on?  We're particularly interested in the security aspects of the
units and of their network management capabilities.

    I'll summarise to the list.  Thanks in advance.

Mark Walters

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-=> We loaded Name Space on the volume SYS: on a Netware 3.11 server.
-=> Now the volume won't mount.  Is there any hope for us?  Do we
-=> have to reinstall the whole system?

No, but you have to load the name space module before trying to mount
the volume. It should be on one of the distribution floppies.

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Happiness is a full backup.

Thanks that was it.  I needed to copy MAC.NAM to the DOS boot disk.
All is well now.
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From:         stephen@BOKONON.UUCP
Subject: Re: LWP4DOS changes from 4.01 to 4.1

   Before my little question, I'd like to thank Brian for posting
the 4.1 feature summary.  Very nice.

Joe wrote:
$                                                  The TCP/IP kernel goes
$away via TCPIP UNLOAD, so we can use .BAT files to help manage memory. V4.01
$did the same but TELAPI never left cleanly.

   I have never had a problem unloading TELAPI.  In fact, it works all
the time at our site, and for the few of us who use TELNET and FTP,
I simply created a batch file that loads TELAPI, runs TNVT220, and
unloads TELAPI.  It never fails.

   Joe, what problems did you encounter with TELAPI unloading?

-Steve
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