From: milo@dorm.rutgers.edu (James R. Mielo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Dynamat
Date: 20 Nov 1992 19:07:14 -0600
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In message <921120.142425.amiller@almaden.ibm.com> Alex Miller writes:

> How much dynamat in total did you use?
> I'll be applying this to a 1983 Rabbit GTI.
       I've gone through 15 sqft plus I have another 15 sqft I just bough tthat 
I'm going to  put in. The rabbit has smaller doors, etc . So, you may just need 
15 sq ft . Also, the stuff is heavy. So, I  don't think I want to put too much 
more in my car. If you can, find an inside contact who can get the stuff at 
cost. The markup is incredible. My brother works at a stereo store and got me 
the 15 sqft for $30 and that was with some profit for the store.

> The limited DYNAMAT instructions I've seen say you have to clean
> the receiving surface completely.  Do I really have to scrub and
> de-grease de-wax everything?

 I just washed the panels with a rag and some water a few times( washing out the
rag as I went). The stuff sticks well and the heat turns it into a very sticky 
goo ( like gum ) that really molds the mat to the shape of the door
      I tacked some to parts of the car that were covered with the anti rust wax
coating in the doors and it still hasn't come off. The real parts to worry about
would be the roof where if it gave way you might run into problems. I would 
really clean that well. The stuff is heavy and gravity takes a toll on it. I put
it on the hatch cover( some I had left over) and it's just peeling up on the 
ends and I didn't preclean the surface. It didn't fall off. It's been like that 
for 2 months. So it'll stcik well even on a non clean surface

 I almost forgot. One time I did drop some in the dirt. The dirt just binds to 
the adhesive. I cleaned it off and hit it with some heat. It became tacky enough
to  rebond to doors and stuff.
> 
> Also, have you seen any mailorder places selling the aluminium
> backed DYNAMAT.  I thought I could put this under the hood - where
> some cars have a noise shield of some kind.
         I haven't seen this yet but it sounds interesting. If you find some and
try it could you email me the results?

> 
> >       Warning on install, heat the mat up well. I put the stuff up in the
> > summer and the adhesive stuck well by itself without heating. Now with the
> > winter, some of the sheets are pealing off. I recomend a heat paint
> > stripper. The electrical one by black & decker speeded things up for me.
> 
> How about just a 1500w hair dryer.  Will it just take longer than
> a heat-gun or will it not work as well.
        should work fine. I used the heat gun because I was doing large spaces.
        In the doors, I tried to use as large of a single continuos sheet as 
possible. Even with the heat gun, it took some time to get the stuff hot ( this 
was in the middle of the summer too ) Once you get it hot it molds really well 
and really speeds thing up.
     What I did was 1st warm the sheet briefly and then tack it on the panel and
heat it really well. If you can, stick it over a heating vent for a little while
until it gets tachy. I learned this one night over the summer when I left some 
sheet in the car. The stuff  was really easy to work with compared to the day 
before.
        Good Luck. If you have any questions or find out more info about that 
aluminium foiled dynamat just email me.


from  James Mielo
Rutgers College of Pharmacy '94
at milo@dorm.rutgers.edu


I pilot  a  now broke GTi
 which the dealer should be fixing as we speak
 Always interested in hearing about any mods for GTi's or any new ideas for 
stereo stuff

From: wtjones@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Bill Jones)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:34:33 GMT
Subject: Thermostatic Control Cable - '70 Bug
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA