From: kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran)
Subject: Re: Mommy! They Called Me Names! (Was: Implications of Abortion...)
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In article <1992Apr14.020056.28729@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>In <EJONES.92Apr13160022@umassmed.ummed.edu> ejones@umassmed.ummed.edu (Erik Jones) writes:
>
>>You equate your movement with those of great leaders like those?
>>How dare you, when Operation Rescue fanatics firebomb clinics and
>                                     ^^^^^^^^^
>>spend their time shouting and cursing and damning women outside
>>abortion clinics.
>
>   You idiot. I wasn't referring to the fanatics. I was referring to
>the heros. The women who have the pregnancies. The women and men who
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You mean, like my Mom, who is pro-choice, and had five kids and a miscarriage?
You mean, like my sister, who is pro-choice, and had four kids and a
miscarriage?

>spend much of their time and money supporting those through a pregnancy.
>Those who help educate on other optiosn available to the women
>
>
>>Do you consider yourself a real man, Steve?  How many children
>    yup
>
>>have you fathered?  Have you ever married?  Are you talking from
>   I'm 19 fool. It would be pretty damn responsible for me to
>have children this early in lifewouldn't it?

Well, gee, Steve.  If you feel it would be "responsible" [sic], then I guess
you'd better get out there and start boffing as many women as you can...

>
>>any concept of experience or is it all just a lungful of air?
>   Hey - I've learneda hell of a lot more in real life than

This from somebody who has just admitted he's 19.  Hire a teenage while they
still know everything...

>I have on Internet. While you spend all you frigging time posting,
>I'm out educating myself. Not just in school either. You should
>try it sometime.

Ok, anybody want to do a quick statistic and find out what percentage of t.a.
posts are done by Steven every day?  And how many are done by others?

>
>>Let us know if you are ever become a real man, Steve, so we can
>   Too late. you missed it. 
>
>>see how you cope with the expieriences you so blindly name.
>   Who is the blind fool here? I can see the fetus as the child.

Somebody who is 19 and trying to tell women how to run their lives?  The one
who "can see the fetus as the child"???

You know, Steve, it's really too bad that you can't see the woman involved in
the pregnancy...

>You seem to be the one with 0/20 foresight. Open you eyes man
>
>>Every child a wanted child, Steve.  That's our goal.  When
>>you find out what Fatherhood is like, let us know.  When
>>and if.
>   If? heh... 
>In any case- we want every child to be a wanted child too. There should
>be no such thing as an unwanted child. Only an unprepared and immature

But, just because the parents are "unprepared and immature", we have to be sure
and FORCE that "WarmCuteFuzzyUnbornChild" to be carried to term.  Who cares if 
the woman involved is diabetic, her birth control failed, and she'll probably
die?

>parent(s). We must work on the problem of the parents, rather than

And, of course, the best way to work "on the problem of the parents" is to make
sure that they can't obtain an abortion.  Even if she is a 14 year old Irish
girl who was raped by her father's best friend.

>victimize the unborn/child.
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