HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mitch@seashell.seas.ucla.edu (Robert R. Mitchell (SEAS admin))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Going into the closet
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:36:55 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <1992Aug13.131753.10960@ncsu.edu> steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier) writes:
#
#Try SPEED.  I hear it KILLS.  :-)
#

No, no, no.  "Speed turns you into your parents"  --Frank Zappa


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: RE Mr. Small
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:15:32 GMT

In article <SHAFER.92Aug16145510@ra.dfrf.nasa.gov> shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes:
>
>No wonder so many people want to limit access at educational
>institutions.  Does anyone else think that school seems to start
>earlier every year?

Hell, I don't go back for another week and I already think it's starting
too early.  Ahh well, at least this is the last time. :-) (Anyone
want to hire a computer geek biker, come the first of the year?)

-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get   | '81 CB750C            |
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111                | '88 Bianchi Limited   |
From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW Service Gouge?
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:30:35 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug17.181639.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
>>As most of you know I just bought a new K75S last weekend and while
>>I like the bike very much I was a bit taken back when the bill for
>>my 600 checkup was $260.00.
>
>While I don't own a BMW I have a friend or two that have and your statement
>above sounds very similar to the reactions that they've had for the same
>service.  The way BMW has been related to me in that respect is that they
>are not only a classy machine but also carry a real classy price tag when it
>comes to factory authorized service 8-(...
>
Pure Unadulterated Bullshit.  The dealer has an hourly labor rate
which he charges for maintenance.  The things done in the 600 mile
service are all routine maintenance items which are not covered in
the Flat Rate manuals so they are charged by the hour.   What
Mr. Mulligin unfortunatly is dealing with is a highway robber.
Here in Austin the BMW dealers labor rate is $40 per hour, the
best non-brand specific shop is also $40 per hour, last I checked
the Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha dealer (rip off center) was charging
$50/ hour minimum one hour.  My 600 mile service came to the
grand total of $123,  Joe Senner, paid less because he was having
problems with the bike and had to bring it down several times and
be without his primary transportation.    

The factory authorized service costs the same as a local shop, then
I'm gonna have the work done by a factory trained technician.  The
classy price tag is just as high at the harley dealer.  A friend
bought some stuff, and the dealer would not give him the HOG discount
unless it was installed by their mechanics at the rate of 60 per hour
(no hog discount on the labor). 

I assume from Mullign's address that  he is getting the service done
in New York City or someplace near by.  In which case that explains
the cost,  the cost of doing business in New York is extremely high
and the dealer probably has a high over head.  I'm not condoning the price
just that there are reasons and you should question the price with
the dealer.  How about posting the parts prices and the labor rate
from the itemized reciept,  I could compare them with mine.


12.90 Oil filter
.75 for 3 seal rings
.28  for a different seal ring.
4.80 for gear oil
13.00 for 4 quarts of engine oil.

80.00 for labor. 

I had some additional stuff and had gotten credit for the
battery charger, but those are the numbers for my 600 mile
service on a 92 K75S/ABS.

Steve Bade
steve@zx11.cactus.org
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: spacer diameter for FJ forks
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:26:31 GMT
Organization: Washington State University
Originator: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu

I need to replace my fork seals and in the process thought I'd
like to stiffen up the front end a bit.  I am thinking of putting
in a couple of spacers in the forks.

Questions:  First, what diameter of plastic pipe I should get?
            Second, any comments about length?  I was in four clicks
            on preload and it was starting to feel pretty good.
            Unfortunately, four clicks is the full range of motion.  :-(

Thanks,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: craig@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ryan Craig)
Subject: Re: Dents in Tanks
Summary: OOkayyyy..
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:52:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.141211.13863@cbfsb.cb.att.com> dud@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (William F. Dudley Jr.) writes:
>A buddy (whom I respect) told me that you can remove dents in gas tanks
>BY FILLING THE TANK WITH WATER AND FREEZING IT !
>
>Anybody want to try this and let me know what happens?  I've been
>too chicken.
>
>Bill Dudley - Norton Commando, CB400F, CB550F, BSA Thunderbolt - AMA 194723
>Moto Guzzi, Benelli, too.                         For Sale: 1650cc VW Trike
>DoD #0376 - mail to: dud@homxb.att.com -or- 71631.737@compuserve.com

I don't doubt that this would remove dents from your tank, but it might
also remove weld seams, dents that are supposed to be there (knee cutouts,
fuel filler cap indent), and fuel petcocks.
Of course I could be wrong.  I'd like to hear from someone who has tried
it, on purpose or inadvertently.
-- 
+--------------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
|Ryan Craig: Comp Sci Co-op, Dalhousie University  |  Disclaimer: My opinions|
|craig@ug.cs.dal.ca               are mine, all mine, and you can't have them|
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From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Current Harlye Craze and Women
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:22:51 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: MSUS

In article <1992Aug20.203953.21126@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, shz@garage.att.com
(Keeper of the 'Tude) wrote:
> 
> In article <Stafford-190892122049@stafford.winona.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
> > Yer right, Ed.  I don't know shit.  Tell me about it,
> > oh Keeper of the 'tude.  (I appreciate your efforts,
> > and your expertise in MC but women?  Ah, let's take
> > it outside, OK?)
> 
> What's this crap?  I'm Keeper of the 'Tude and I'm not Ed Green.  Ed is
> Keeper of the [flat line.................]
> 

So I screwed up again.  And did I get EMail reminders of how I
screwed up again!  A thousand pardons, George.
From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Photo Radar
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:19:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1504
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

> davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) writes:
>>  Note that since waves are waves, and they all go at the same velocity
>>  (according to my high-school physics), the calculations are identical for
>>  light-frequency systems.


ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>    No, the light wave systems work different.  They actually measure the
> distance from the gun to the object, then measure it again at a set interval
> and calculate your speed from that.

Everybody will be glad to know that NASA has invented a fast, cheap, efficient
LIDAR unit that uses doppler measurements instead of distance measurements.
For those interested, it uses a light filter with known characteristics in
the frequecies of interest, and compares the ratio of filtered/unfiltered
transmitted light to the ratio of filtered/unfiltered returned light. The
doppler shift moves the frequency, and therefore changes the filter's
response in predictable ways.

Your tax dollars at work. In case you don't use Teflon, and thought that
space spinoffs never benefitted you personally. No telling whether, or how
soon, it's likely to be available to the nice police officers.

BTW, even though she's clearly in charge of everything NASA does, don't
blame Mary for this one; she wasn't personally involved in the project.


Martin Golding             | Ducati: Just think of it as
Dod #236 0354 .EC          |  "decreasing turn insurance".
[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Windshield and rip in seat
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:15:07 GMT

In article <Bt3H5F.63A@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> olivers@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Oliver Schonborn) writes:

>Also, I must buy a windshield.  I was told I would get the best prices by mail
>order.  If my bike is a 1980 Yamaha 650 Special, i.e. a cruiser style bike, is
>there any brand windshield you would recommend, or mail dealer?

what if your bike isn't a 1980 yamaha 650 special?  seriously, mail order is
usually much cheaper, but you're in canada and extra costs apply.  they'll
be able to ship it inside a week, though, with little problem.  especially for
a little extra $$ :-(

email of the dod yellow pages has just been sent to you.

>Thanks in advance, and have a nice one,

many of us here on the net already do.

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|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: phg+@CS.CMU.EDU (Paul Gleichauf)
Subject: Re: Gorgeous customized Hawk (was Re: Gonna take the plunge)
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:34:40 GMT

	The description of the modifications of the Honda Hawk are 
consistent with those available from Two Brothers Racing.  There are
a range of changes available from the cosmetic to full race performance
enhancements for the racetrack.  The race version is not very civilized
or practical for street use, but it is pretty much legal (exhaust options
can be above legal limits).  The expense can be substantial when you 
start adding the titanium race components.  You might want to inquire:

		Two Brothers Racing
		2890 Via Martens
		Anaheim, CA  92806

		(714) 632-8820

They might find inquiries about the deep male voice proximity alarm pretty
funny though.

							Paul
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:53:24 GMT
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames

"Alan" == Alan Arthur <etlanar@slartibartfast.ericsson.se> writes:

Alan> I'm right handed, so is this some kind of 'built-in' protection
Alan> mechanism that I need to overcome?, or am I just brain-damaged?
Alan> or did I leave the side stand down...? 8^)

I have the same problem with left turns, but I'm both-handed (sort
of).  So I dunno what the correlation is.  I know that I can grind the
pegs in a right hander, but am deep-down afraid of hardcore left
turns.

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
            '91 CB750, soon to be joined by a '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Going into the closet
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:25:01 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 3029@c3.PLA.CA.US, niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.034232.19329@ncsu.edu> jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
>>>
>>A)  The KotL was on vacation.
>
>NOT! But he was outta town...

And while there he got a much needed motorcycle fix.

Thanks for the ride, Neal!  Nice bike!


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: Re: Motorcyclists get a break.
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:12:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.035035.19608@ncsu.edu> jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
>After hearing how MC riders always get shafted, I wanted to post
>a positive experience.  I went to get a campus parking sticker
>for my wife's car and my motorcycle.  The car sticker was $168
>and the motorcycle sticker was $38 BUT because I had bought
>the car sticker for $168, my MC was considered secondary transportation
>and I got the MC sticker for only $5.  This is a state run 
>institution.  A great idea that was well thought through as many
>people will leave their bikes home in the winter (but not me).  I
>just didn't think that there was anyone in the Gubment who was
>thinking abou these things or cared.


I was kind of surprised to see the University of Delaware mentioned
in the Ups and Downs section of one of the moto rags (Lance Holst
is a Jerk ,or CW, dunno which).  Anyway it gave an UP to the U of DE
for their Mcycle parking policy.  A car sticker costs $105 and 
requires a minimum of 92 or 96 credits to get (senior or above), while
the mcycle sticker is around $20 and anyone can get one.  There are 
marked off motorcycle parking spots near almost every building on campus.

Also if you buy a car sticker for $105, you can add up to two motorcycles
to it (more if you know how) for $2 per.

Not a bad deal...

Now if they's only pave the damned mc spots with concrete so
my sidestand wouldn't sink in  (I have to use the center-stand or
one of the patented DoD official Carbon Fiber Kickstand Pads :-)

Steve




-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
From: hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wearing a helmet
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:27:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cup.BtCDpr.B1z
Reply-To: Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com>
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Paul Bonomo (paulb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM) wrote:
: After all, what trait can natural selection of modern humans 
: work on besides intelligence?  My fondest dream is that you exercise
: your personal freedom to be stupid ... and that you smear your brains
: down the highway long before your moron offspring have a chance to breed
: with my kid.

the quaint notion that natural selection will work here is fantasy.
for natural selection to work, that gene must be weeded out before
said riders reach breeding age.  since the laws generally allow
licenses for 16 year olds, and i know that at least one 16 year old
could hit the ceiling (women: i will not explain), natural selection
is not technically possible.

now, if we can get all riders who do not wear helmets to use sidecars
and put all the offspring in them, then we'd be ensuring that natural
selection worked (provided the accident is bad enough to knock them
all off).

morbidly yours,

-- hesh
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers)
Subject: Re: Doesn't *anyone* like their Corbin???
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:10:42 GMT

In article <RAIBLE.92Aug5171643@wk43.nas.nasa.gov>, raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric
Raible) writes:
> So how about it?  Anyone have a Corbin seat on their Hawk and like it?

	I don't have one on a Hawk, but I like the one on my Sabre.
Here's a posting I made many months ago on this topic...


In article <1992Feb4.055034.7854@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>   [Is it true that...]
>1. Corbin seats soak up water after sitting in the rain all day in the parking
>lot at work, unlike the vinyl stock seat,

	I have a Corbin Canyon Dual Sport model on my Sabre.
This has the "basket weave" vinyl material in the seating areas.  
As Blaine and John mentioned, this material itself does not allow 
water to penetrate into the foam underneath, it just lets a bit of 
water sit in the little "weaves" which you can easily soak up with a towel.

	However, the basket weave vinyl is sewn to some decorative
piping, which in turn is sewn to smooth vinyl.  None of these seams
are sealed, and all allow water to penetrate into the foam.
Corbin does use a sheet of plastic between the vinyl cover and the
foam, but it isn't full coverage, it's just at the front where your
thighs would be.  (Squish a Corbin seat and you can hear where this
plastic is.)  

>2. Corbin seats take bloody forever to dry out, in that case.

	If water gets in there, then yes.  And it's bad for the foam,
according to the Corbin rep I quizzed on this topic.  He said they
sell a rain cover for about $20.  More about this later.

>3. Corbin seats do not fit the bike well, at least the Kawasaki Concours.

	The first one I ordered was built on Corbin's own fibreglass
base.  It fit poorly.  It was too narrow so the edges of the seat
scuffed the paint on the body panels, and also the bolts to which I had
to attach the stock latching tabs were incorrectly located.
I sent it back, and they made me a new seat built on a stock Honda 
seat pan.  This of course fit perfectly.

	As a bonus, they only stapled the cover to the pan.  With their
own fibreglass pan, they rivet the cover on.  So, I pulled the staples
on the front half, peeled back the cover, and sealed the seams from
the inside with silicone caulking stuff, then stapled the cover back on.
I also made a rain cover out of some plastic tarp.
No more water problems.

	In terms of comfort, the seat is a huge improvement.
I wish I had bought one years ago.   But for the big bucks they
charge, I would expect it to fit properly and be waterproof.

>Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)


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Robyn                              | "Any profit should go to Arnie's `get the
rblanders@math.uwaterloo.ca        |  daemon carved on Mount Rushmore' fund."
Den0051,  KotV4                    |       - Marty Albini, DOD0550
VF750S Sabre (his) FZX750 Fazer (hers)
From: rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If money grew on trees...
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:42:57 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

There's only one bike I need, and it's going to require more than just one
money tree. It's the Laverda V6 1000cc rip-snorting race replica. They 
originally designed it for endurance racing, and entered it in Le Mans about
15 years ago. It was the fastest bike out there, but a dog round the curves.
However, the new owners of Laverda (Zanini) have decided to make 50 for sale
at the tree-eating cost of $100,000. Gulp.

Being a Laverda freak (the only Net Laverda freak, I expect, email and prove
me wrong, please!) I thought I'd just let you know that Laverda have a new
650 out, with all the right bits, White Power, alloy frame, low weight, etc.
It's a bit cheaper, but not a lot, at $15,000. The usual trick is where to
fill the tank from. The old RGS used to be filled from the fairing. You fill
the new 650 from the tail!!


============================================================================
Richard Taylor                 DoD #981               (rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk)
"Gentlemen, starta your engines... 2 minutes, to the hills." Massimo Laverda
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Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Personal Freedoms?
From: clive@otago.ac.nz (Clive Boock)
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:50:20 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

Personal Freedoms?

   I've been following the anti helmet-legislation thread here for some time
and suddenly came across some postings about bikes in the USA having hardwired
headlights; i.e. the headlights are on ALL the time. 
   Have I been misreading something here or is this actually the case
nationwide or confined to only some states?  
   Should this not be regarded in the same light (!!?) as legislated wearing of
helmets?
   In New Zealand we have had helmet legislation for years and riders are NEVER
seen without them. We also have seatbelt legislation for front and rear seat
passengers in cages, but, shit, nobody's going to take away MY personal freedom
and MAKE me ride with my headlight on!!  ; )
   In actual fact I always ride with my headlight on, and that is on high beam
during the day, but thankgoodness for personal freedom that it is MY choice
about whether the next brain-dead cager sees me or not. I also wear a helmet at
ALL times, while riding, and not only because it is local legislation but 
because it is the sensible thing to do.

 Clive H. Boock, University of Otago, New Zealand.
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Bay Area Moto Insurance -- The Best I've Found
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:09:00 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames


Well, I think I've found a really good rate:

Me:
25 years, male, single
2 years riding
Bike #1:
'92 R100R
Coverage:
Full, $50 deduct comp.; $250 deduct coll; others are covered
$846/yr

Bike #2:
'91 CB750
Same Coverage
$630/yr

(neither price reflects a multi-bike discount)

This is with State Farm, talk to Kim at 415.941.8700.  And no, she
doesn't require that you insure your car with them as well...
--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
            '91 CB750, soon to be joined by a '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead