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From: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Frank Kruppenbacher)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: why
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:55:04 GMT
Reply-To: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <BxuMLo.1G@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, 
racg8670@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Becca ) writes:

>> Hello,
>>I firmly believe that people who fish are a bunch of the most
>>warped people in the world...to catch a peaceful graceful
>>animal which is flowing through the life blood of this earth
>>as if a monitor of happiness...GET A LIFE!

Hey Becca,
You assume that all fishers keep their prey. Well they don't. I'm one flyfisher
that finds peace in tying artifical flys to imitate aquatic insects to flyfish
for trout that I release to catch again another day.  I'm also a fisher who
monitors the life blood of the earth [water] I fish in to make sure it is 
clear and clean and flowing for generations beyond me to enjoy. And if I decide
to keep a fish, I make sure that I use the resource wisely.  Fishing today
isn't like those old time photos of old men holding up stringers of hundreds of
fish.  Nature has a unique way of balancing itself.  Sure I hunt for fish. The
fish hunt to avoid my flies as well.  If I'm skillful I'll catch one or two. If
the fish are skillful and wise, they'll avoid my offering too.

So please get an education Becca.  Instead of dumping on the fishers of this
world, work to protect the freshwater that fish live in.  Work to protect the
freshwater that you need to get a life and keep it going.  For every fisher
that abuses the water, I'll show you 10 who deeply respect and protect it and
the things that live in it.

It isn't the fishers who are distrubing the fish, killing the fish, it's the
people throwing cigarette butts out of their car windows.  And it's the
fish who eat these butts and chock to death on them. It's the people who throw
motor oil, soap, acid, animal waste, and heavy metals into the creeks who are
doing a whole lot more damage to fish and water that people who fish.

If people weren't fishing for fish, the states wouldn't be putting millions
into fish culture and stocking and pure waters management.  If people don't use
that resource, the states wouldn't care to maintain that resource and enhance
it for future generations to enjoy it.

Don't you tell me to get a life, Becca.

I could say something about all the plastic tampon applicators washed up on 
the beaches of the world, but I won't.
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: racg8670@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Becca )
Subject: Re: why
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:10:34 GMT

LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> Hello,
>I firmly believe that people who fish are a bunch of the most
>warped people in the world...to catch a peaceful graceful
>animal which is flowing through the life blood of this earth
>as if a monitor of happiness...GET A LIFE!

why do I fish?
well I fish because it is as close to a practice of religion as I can
get...

before I was born, my grandfather and old ned the cabinet maker built
me my first fishing pole...

as soon as I was old enough to hold it, I was taken on my first fishing
trip and that was the beginning of a series of coming of age practices,
all marked by fishing trips...

I learned about life and respect and duty and beauty and art and god
and right and wrong on these fishing trips...

When my grandfather died some years ago, I celebrated his death with
a fishing trip...
just as he celebrated the beginning of my life with one...

as for those fish you think you guard...
I sort of doubt you have done as much as we fisherfolx in guarding and
caring for their lives...

you are right about one thing...
those fish have an awesome beauty...
and they make some of the finest meals I have ever known...

as for warped and twisted...
if we are the twisted ones, then so be it...
all I know is that I feel perfectly safe when I come upon a fisherperson
deep in the forest...
but I never feel that safe when I walk in your cities and meet your non-
fishing friends...

the best thing I can think of in regard to your post is that I won't have 
to worry bout your kind much...
cause your kind don't mix with mine...

so thanks for your post...
but I think I'll keep right on fishing...
me and my warped and twisted fisher friends

(only thing I might mention is that I suspect the gulls and eagles
and king fishers and ospray might take offence your remarks so you
should probably be careful that the guardian of the birds doesn't
get your number :)

becca... another one of those warped fisher folx :)


Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: roa@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Robert O. Anderson)
Subject: Re: why
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:02:13 GMT

LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> 
>  Hello,
> I firmly believe that people who fish are a bunch of the most
> warped people in the world...to catch a peaceful graceful
> animal which is flowing through the life blood of this earth
> as if a monitor of happiness...GET A LIFE!
>                          love,
>                 the guardian angel of lovely
>                      fishys everywhere
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Were you on the gridiron this past weekend???? You must've been!

.
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Frank Kruppenbacher)
Subject: Apologies to BECCA this is meant for LCM111@PSUVM
Reply-To: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:29:08 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu 
Subject: Re: why
Reply-To: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:55:04 GMT

Garbage Mouth LCM111@PSUVM writes:

>> Hello,
>>I firmly believe that people who fish are a bunch of the most
>>warped people in the world...to catch a peaceful graceful
>>animal which is flowing through the life blood of this earth
>>as if a monitor of happiness...GET A LIFE!

Hey LCM,

You assume that all fishers keep their prey. Well they don't. I'm one flyfisher
that finds peace in tying artifical flys to imitate aquatic insects to flyfish
for trout that I release to catch again another day.  I'm also a fisher who
monitors the life blood of the earth [water] I fish in to make sure it is 
clear and clean and flowing for generations beyond me to enjoy. And if I decide
to keep a fish, I make sure that I use the resource wisely.  Fishing today
isn't like those old time photos of old men holding up stringers of hundreds of
fish.  Nature has a unique way of balancing itself.  Sure I hunt for fish. The
fish hunt to avoid my flies as well.  If I'm skillful I'll catch one or two. If
the fish are skillful and wise, they'll avoid my offering too.

So please get an education LCM.  Instead of dumping on the fishers of this
world, work to protect the freshwater that fish live in.  Work to protect the
freshwater that you need to get a life and keep it going.  For every fisher
that abuses the water, I'll show you 10 who deeply respect and protect it and
the things that live in it.

It isn't the fishers who are distrubing the fish, killing the fish, it's the
people throwing cigarette butts out of their car windows.  And it's the
fish who eat these butts and choke to death on them. It's the people who throw
motor oil, soap, acid, animal waste, and heavy metals into the creeks who are
doing a whole lot more damage to fish and water that people who fish.

If people weren't fishing for fish, the states wouldn't be putting millions
into fish culture and stocking and pure waters management.  If people don't use
that resource, the states wouldn't care to maintain that resource and enhance
it for future generations to enjoy it.

Don't you tell me to get a life, LCM.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Public apologies to Becca who I flamed with the original version of this post.

fk
From: LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: why
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:55:37 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


 Hello,
I firmly believe that people who fish are a bunch of the most
warped people in the world...to catch a peaceful graceful
animal which is flowing through the life blood of this earth
as if a monitor of happiness...GET A LIFE!
                         love,
                the guardian angel of lovely
                     fishys everywhere
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: pattons@CS.ColoState.EDU (samuel patton)
Subject: Re: Sam
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:43:53 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <92322.193152LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu> <LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Dearest Sam,
>1) I am not stoned
>2) I belong to no organizations but the me club
>3) How would you like if I snare you with a HOOK IN MOUTH
>
>Take your emotion 13 and go trip to the brain...maybe you'll learn something
>JOIN THE ARMY,
>Guardian Angel of Fishys

Actually I have been hooked in the mouth with a treble hook and it really 
didn't hurt bad at all.  If you know anything about fish physiology you can
figure out where fish nerve endings are concentrated and they are not 
concentrated in the mouth or jaw region at all.

I'll bet that its hard to meet anyone in the me club...

BTW, Hook in Mouth is at least a good song :)


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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald)
Subject: Re: why
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:34:07 GMT

In article <92321.175537LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu> LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu writes:


> Hello,
>I firmly believe that people who fish are a bunch of the most
>warped people in the world...to catch a peaceful graceful
>animal which is flowing through the life blood of this earth
>as if a monitor of happiness...GET A LIFE!
>                         love,
>                the guardian angel of lovely
>                     fishys everywhere

Everyone should believe in something.  I believe I'll go fishing.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: why
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:47:13 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

racg8670@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Becca ) writes:
|
| Hello,
|I firmly believe that people who fish are a bunch of the most
|warped people in the world...to catch a peaceful graceful
|animal which is flowing through the life blood of this earth
|as if a monitor of happiness...GET A LIFE!

I think you would find that many serious fisherman are more concerned
with the environment that the average person. I think you would find that
that serious fisherman actually does something about it.
 
The beautiful streams, lakes, and wildlife surrounding the enviroment in 
which the sport is carried out are benefits that a fisherman potentially
might appreciate more than others.  To be a successful flyfisherman, one
has to become in tune with the stream.  One has to learn the entymology
of the stream, the feeding habits of the trout, and that pissing while
wearing waders might give you a warm feeling at first you will regret it
later.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:52:36 EST
From: <SPN100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject:    Re.fishy kind of lover

 I certainly would love to find your still waters and play with your high mount
ains. Hopefully you would like to use my pole to try and catch a fish. I must l
eave now I have to find another river.
From: whitbeck@snowlake.math.uh.edu (Mike Whitbeck)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: fly fishing in lakes vs streams
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:36:23 GMT
Reply-To: whitbeck@snowlake.math.uh.edu (Mike Whitbeck)


Any tips on techniques for using nymphs in still water (mountain lakes)
as opposed
to fast streams? I am new at this; I've had some sucess in the rivers but would
like to try some high mountain lakes. I'd appreciate advice on
wets/nymphs/dries/streamers
in lakes (trout country).

Mike
From: jfk@whthouse.EBay.Sun.COM (John Kennedy)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: why
Date: 21 Nov 92 06:57:03 GMT
Reply-To: jfk@whthouse.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: whthouse.ebay.sun.com

BONE HEAD  () writes:
>
> Hello,
>I firmly believe that people who fish are a bunch of the most
>warped people in the world...to catch a peaceful graceful
>animal which is flowing through the life blood of this earth
>as if a monitor of happiness...GET A LIFE!
>                         love,
>                the guardian angel of lovely
>                     fishys everywhere


I Have a wounderful life. I FISH and LOVE IT 

If I remember this group is to disc. fishing at it's best!! SO FISHER PEOPLE
where's it happening??


 BONE HEAD,, why do you hide?? what the %#^& IS THIS CRAP
			 love,
>                the guardian angel of lovely
>                     fishys everywhere


NOW KINDLY GO AWAY.........


John F. Kennedy

GONE FISHING TO CATCH, KILL AND EAT FISH
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: hbtechau@iastate.edu (Hunter B Techau)
Subject: iowa fishing; lets get some info
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:46:11 GMT
From: kevins@mcnc.org (Kevin Siefering)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Iowa fishing
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:55:53 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC


    I lived in Iowa for my first 22 years, including a 4 year
stint at Iowa State, and am an avid fisherman.  

    In the Ames area, the land is FLAT, and not great for making
ponds and lakes deep enough to survive winter kills.  Most of
my fishing was done around my home town, Oskaloosa.  There are
several good lakes in southern IA which are either county or state
owned and public.  Suggestions: Red Haw, Lake Iowa, Rathbun, Red Rock,
Keomah, Hawthorne, etc.  The smaller lakes are better for beginners.
All have largemouth, crappie, bluegill, and channel cat (+ carp, and
bullheads).  

    The BEST fishing in Iowa, however, is in farm ponds.  These are
scattered all over the country side.  Probably half of the owners will
let you fish in them if you ask.  Most of the ponds were originally
stocked by the state and by law the owners can't refuse to let you
in, although if you don't ask you will be tresspassing.  There is
some GREAT bass fishing available in these ponds, as well as 
catfish, bluegill, and in some ponds crappie.

    Also, don't overlook the rivers.  In small, muddy rivers (i.e. the
Skunk in southern Iowa) there is pretty good catfishing for both
channel cat and flathead.  The best technique is using troll lines
or ditty poles with live bait or chicken liver overnight.  Carp are
often plentiful also and are great fun to catch on hot summer days.
Use sweet corn kernels, threaded on the hook.

    If you'd like specific details on methods for fishing in Iowa,
please e-mail me, and I'll help you in any way I can!



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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: racg8670@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Becca )
Subject: Re: why
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:32:58 GMT

fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Frank Kruppenbacher) writes:

I am sure that Frank here is real sorry he missed my real post...
it is the one that says that I am a fisher person...

Matter of fact...

I sort of said that it was my religion...

so Frank...

here is a good question...

where can I get this education and life you say I should get ...

I just left idaho were there is real fishing (could you clue me in
bout this bass thing in the midwest as part of your penance for 
screwing up your post)

*grin*

>In article <BxuMLo.1G@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, 
>racg8670@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Becca ) writes:

She wrote no such thing!!!!!!!!


(and if she did her grandfather would come out of the grave and 
wrap a fishing pole round her neck!)

oh and just to drive my point home...

I think you, Frank, should go fishing all by yourself and think about
this missguided post...

and don't come back until you have caught something, release it if you like,
or until it gets too dark to think or fish anymore :)

*grin*

Becca
racg8670@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:31:52 EST
From: <LCM111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Sam

Dearest Sam,
1) I am not stoned
2) I belong to no organizations but the me club
3) How would you like if I snare you with a HOOK IN MOUTH

Take your emotion 13 and go trip to the brain...maybe you'll learn something
JOIN THE ARMY,
Guardian Angel of Fishys
From: gardwt@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: George-N-Shad (help)
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:01:28 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL







Couls someone help me out there? 
I just bought a George-N-Shad-and am unsure how to manuver
this baby in the water-I have heard of its success and 
was wondering if any of you knew. Thanks!!

Dave
gardwt@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: jll@emx.cc.utexas.edu (jon luckstead)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: dismal fishing trip
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:31:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

Howdy from Texas!  My last fishing trip was quite dismal.
Only 5 of the 10 Black Bass I caught weighed over  40 pounds.

Newsgroups: alt.newbies,alt.stupidity,alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: bolwidt@fwi.uva.nl (Erwin Bolwidt)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:05:12 GMT

gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:

>Herman H. Fredriksson (herm@acme.etsu.edu) wrote:
>: gardabr@unix1.MRIH.NO (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>: >titus chiu (titus@coombs.anu.edu.au) wrote:
>: >: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>: 
>: [..crap deleted..]
>: 
>: >/set exec_protection off
>: >/on -notice nickserv /exec -msg echo help
>: >/msg nickserv help
>: 
>: You DONT reply to a NOTICE, especially with a PRIVMSG. You DONT reply
>: to a PRIVMSG with a PRIVMSG. Do you understand this? Have you heard
>: this before? Remember, the thing about breaking protocol? *sigh*
>: 
>This was not the response of the protocol, but a response to all the comments
>about the crap about how Glurg could be flooded and how GOOD bots like
>nickserv couldn't be flooded. Well, nickserv could be flooded, and in fact,
>all bots can be flooded if you really want to. And you don't flood a bot by
>accident.

Well, since he clearly likes to automaticaly generate messages on receipt of
one, how about another member of the class of such auto-responses:
If nickserv gets more than say 15 of the same messages at a short interval
after s response was sent back, it makes a log file, and AUTOMAGICALLY
generates a messages according to the protocol described in rfc821 directed
to root@{$SITE_OF_FLOODER} :*)

>: [..more crap..]
>: 
>: >: get some clues please.
>: 
>: yes, please do as the good man says, and get a clue.
>: 
>How about you? Would you please keep the different subjects apart? We are not
>just talking about the protocol, but also which bots should be on, which should
>not be on, what is a good bot (and here is where the flooding came in),
>wether or bots should be allowed at all on irc...

There is no such things as good or bad bots (yes, this has been said before)
there's only an author with good or bad intentions. So there's no use to
ban bots, the only solution could possibly be to ban authors.... But
personally i don't believe in that. Geezz... even irc lives on a planet 
called earth... even virtual reality does. But who will tell that to those
creeps?

>: herm.
>: (say NO to unattended bots)

>/Gard - say...
-- 
Erwin Bolwidt                     "Yes!"                  `O-O'
<erwin @ mars.let.uva.nl>                                 (_U_)

Newsgroups: alt.newbies,alt.stupidity,alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Organization: MRIH, More og Romsdal Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 09:23:52 GMT

Herman H. Fredriksson (herm@acme.etsu.edu) wrote:
: gardabr@unix1.MRIH.NO (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
: >titus chiu (titus@coombs.anu.edu.au) wrote:
: >: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
: 
: [..crap deleted..]
: 
: >/set exec_protection off
: >/on -notice nickserv /exec -msg echo help
: >/msg nickserv help
: 
: You DONT reply to a NOTICE, especially with a PRIVMSG. You DONT reply
: to a PRIVMSG with a PRIVMSG. Do you understand this? Have you heard
: this before? Remember, the thing about breaking protocol? *sigh*
: 
This was not the response of the protocol, but a response to all the comments
about the crap about how Glurg could be flooded and how GOOD bots like
nickserv couldn't be flooded. Well, nickserv could be flooded, and in fact,
all bots can be flooded if you really want to. And you don't flood a bot by
accident.

: [..more crap..]
: 
: >: get some clues please.
: 
: yes, please do as the good man says, and get a clue.
: 
How about you? Would you please keep the different subjects apart? We are not
just talking about the protocol, but also which bots should be on, which should
not be on, what is a good bot (and here is where the flooding came in),
wether or bots should be allowed at all on irc...

: herm.
: (say NO to unattended bots)

/Gard - say...
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: kparker%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Parker)
Subject: Communications Problem
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:55:34 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In the local and/or semi-local propagation of news groups alt.fashion
ranks about 1800, below groups such as alt.culture... and alt.sex...
As a result from time to time ``we'' just drop some traffic.  This is
fine (I have a life too), except that at the moment ``we'' seem to
have dropped the beginnings of all the major threads in this news
group.  Which is frustratingly confusing.

I don't really want all of the missed traffic, but if someone has the
time to send me E-mail summarizing what's going on I'd appreciate it.

1) What are all the replies to ``Our Fashion Group'' about?  Are they
   discussing some particular designer, 70's style, or both.

2) What is all the vitriol being spewed by Charles Foster Kane in
   reference to?  Does he really work for The Evening Herald?

3) Where there any replies to my long post about ``Dressing
   Professionally''?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also someone sent me a blank mail message last night from this news
group.  I replied with my .plan file, but didn't save the address.
Who-ever you are, if you want to ``talk'' try again.

Ken
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: euafri@eua.ericsson.se (Fredrik stman)
Subject: Re: RE:  Sacre Merde
Reply-To: euafri@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:29:34 GMT

Charles Foster Kane writes:

>Oh darn, you really mean it ? Maybe someone would discuss it with me ?
>Well, mon panty-clad ami, I could care less. 

Then why do you post, citizen Kane?

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