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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
Subject: Re: Why Are You Volunteering?
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:48:12 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <pkershaw-120892123244@dce.com.> pkershaw@dce.com writes:
>Did you know that there is NO law that requires you to pay Income Tax?
>Did you know that there is NO law that requires you to file a Return?
>ThatUs right!
>INCOME TAX IS COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY!

  Am I missing something here, or does the Sixteenth Amendment to the
Constitution of the United States spell it out specifically? (affectionately
referred to as the amendment that allows goverment to steal):

      Amendment XVI

      The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from
      whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States,
      and without regard to any census or enumeration.


What is unclear about this?  I hope no moron believes that this argument will
hold up in court...

  Doug
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From: btarbox@sw.stratus.com (Brian Tarbox)
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
Subject: more or less details better re:IRS?
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:21:16 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.


I do my taxes using Turbo-tax which lets me associate a 'supporting statemtent'
with most line items.  It also lets me print these statements. 

If I think a particular line item looks 'too high' (i.e. invites audit, even
though its legitimately that high),  is it ever in my interest to send the
supporting statement along with my return?  Or should I just hope for the best
and be ready to send in the supporting statement if audited?

In case it makes a difference, the line in question is on the 2106,
unreimbursed business expenses.  I'm a consultant and most years have 1099
income and so can put business expenses on Schedule C.  This year all my income
is W-2 so the expenses have to go on the 2106.

Thanks for any advice.
From: richter@mcc.com (Charlie Richter)
Subject: Re: Middle Class Hit Again in 1992 Tax Bill
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:31:05 GMT

> Regulation comes from the democrats. Reagan did everything he could to
> get rid of burdensome regulation.

Yes, like those burdensome S&L regulations.  And those burdensome HUD
regulations.  People who look for simple answers find what they seek.
-- 
Charlie Richter   MCC   Austin, Texas
  uucp: richter@milano.uucp     arpa: richter@mcc.com
"The panic ... was not due to anything fundamentally weak in either business
   or finance.  It was confined to the market itself."   - WSJ, Oct. 31, 1929
From: ESR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Ed Russell)
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
Subject: Re: Tax Preparation Software
Date: 23 Aug 92 04:09:04 GMT
 <1992Aug20.193243.1524@highlite.uucp>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Aug20.193243.1524@highlite.uucp>, burgoyne@highlite.uucp (J.
Robert Burgoyne) says:
>
>TurboTax is great. I've used it three years in a row. Updates are
>reasonably priced.

True but many times you can buy the new year's program at a discount place
for less than the update cost from ChipSoft.
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
From: dbrooks@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Deborah Ann Brooks)
Subject: Re: Middle Class Hit Again in 1992 Tax Bill
Reply-To: dbrooks@silver.lcs.mit.edu
Organization: /usr/guests/dbrooks/.organization
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:35:47 GMT

M23231@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
   Newsgroups: misc.taxes
   Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 16:47:57 GMT

   This year  [the congressional tax]  bill would limit  the moving expense
   deduction for families to $5,000.

   [... flames deleted...]

I hate taxes as  much as the  next person,  but  why should the  government
subsidize people's moving expenses?   I can  think of a  lot better uses of
people's money that I would  sooner see  paid  in part by Uncle  Sam.  In a
way, reducing or eliminating this deduction seems more fair.
--
Deborah Ann Brooks
dbrooks@silver.lcs.mit.edu
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
From: acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng)
Subject: Re: Middle Class Hit Again in 1992 Tax Bill
Originator: acheng@shalom.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:44:44 GMT


In article <1992Aug20.184904.5842@progress.com>, matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper) writes:
>  What money can a company give you these days do the Feds *not* look at this 
>  way?  
>
>
>  Ways to get money from a company:
>  
>  - Your wages are taxed
>  - Monetary merit awards are taxed
>  - Travel expenses are taxed
>  - Tuition reimbursement is taxed
>  - Moving expenses are taxed
>  - ?

Health insurance, company car, conference reimbursement, professional
society membership, to name a few.  Oppss!  Are you a spy for the
congress to see what else they can tax on?   :-)
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
Subject: Re: Why Are You Volunteering?
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:23:14 GMT
Reply-To: fierro@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


In article <pkershaw-140892091057@dce.com.> pkershaw@dce.com writes:
>In article <c9Fi03Uq59H500@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, fierro@uts.amdahl.com
>(Doug Fierro) wrote:
>>
>> In article <pkershaw-120892123244@dce.com.> pkershaw@dce.com writes:
>> >Did you know that there is NO law that requires you to pay Income Tax?
>> >Did you know that there is NO law that requires you to file a Return?
>> >ThatUs right!
>> >INCOME TAX IS COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY!
>>
>>   Am I missing something here, or does the Sixteenth Amendment to the
>> Constitution of the United States spell it out specifically? (affectionately
>> referred to as the amendment that allows goverment to steal):
>>
>>       Amendment XVI
>>
>>       The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from
>>       whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States
,
>>       and without regard to any census or enumeration.
>>
>>
>> What is unclear about this?  I hope no moron believes that this argument will
>> hold up in court...
>
>Guess I'm a moron, because I do believe, and so have the courts! In fact
>the courts have repeatedly believed, because the 16th Amendment was never
>ratified! You will also notice that this non-ratified amendment does not

  (Sorry about the moron part- wasn't the best choice of words :-)

  The Sixteenth Amendment was ratified February 3, 1913.

  Hey, if you can come up with a way for people not to have to pay income
tax, I'd be all for it.  But in reality, the "Congress shall have power"
part of the Amendment pretty much spells it out, at least to me, that they
would find some way to enforce income tax should a court rule somehow that
income tax is voluntary.  What that means is they could tack on a standard
Section 2 clause if they have to in order to make it "non-voluntary".


  Doug

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Newsgroups: misc.taxes
From: Dave Dodson <dodson@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Two fulltime jobs.
Originator: dodson@bach.convex.com
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:56:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: dodson@convex.COM (Dave Dodson)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <889@tdat.teradata.COM> bne@tecsrv12.teradata.com () writes:
>[...]
>Logically it makes sense to give a person who earns
>$1000/week and works 80 hours
>a break over someone who earns
>$1000/week and works 40 hours.

Why does this make sense?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Dave Dodson		                             dodson@convex.COM
Convex Computer Corporation      Richardson, Texas      (214) 497-4234
From: kmoore@ncsc.org (Kevin Moore)
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
Subject: mail-order taxation
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:39:12 GMT
Reply-To: kmoore@ncsc.org (Kevin Moore)
Organization: North Carolina Supercomputing Center

I recently read that the Supreme Court has ruled that out-of-state mail
orders cannot be taxed by individual states unless Congress legislates
it. My state (North Carolina) requires that individuals pay state tax
on all mail orders. I assume that I can just ignore this requirement
for mail orders which are to out-of-state mail order houses. Does anyone
know of any other implications of this decision?

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From: ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith)
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
Subject: Re: Where to find state tax rates?
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 22:24:50 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I don't know how much detail you need, but much of the information you
request can be found in many almanacs.

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
From: steinman@is.morgan.com (Jan Steinman)
Subject: Re: Middle Class Hit Again in 1992 Tax Bill
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:28:53 GMT

In article <DBROOKS.92Aug13213547@silver.lcs.mit.edu> dbrooks@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Deborah Ann Brooks) writes:
   M23231@mwvm.mitre.org writes:

      This year  [the congressional tax]  bill would limit  the moving expense
      deduction for families to $5,000.

      [... flames deleted...]

   I hate taxes as  much as the  next person,  but  why should the  government
   subsidize people's moving expenses?   I can  think of a  lot better uses of
   people's money that I would  sooner see  paid  in part by Uncle  Sam.  In a
   way, reducing or eliminating this deduction seems more fair.

Yea, and while we're at it, why should the government subsidise the
banking industry by making home interest deductible? If there were no
deduction, people would wise up that their $1000 monthly payment puts
$2.81 against the principal. People would save more, and put more
down. The banking industry has shown itself undeserving of such
breaks, and (in the unlikley chance that such a change would be
revenue-neutral) the breaks could be distributed for housing needs in
some other manner.

(Duck! Here come the flames! :-)
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From: gw@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Gordon Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
Subject: State Income taxes
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:16:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA


  We were complaining about federal/state income taxes,
and wondered what happens to someone who buys a house in
state A, then sells it for a gain, moves to state B and
buys a house in the required time frame (24 months I belive),
then sells the house in state B some 30 years later.
Will state A come after the seller for state A deferred
income?

  I have heard that some states (Cal being one of them)
will pursue former residents that deferred IRA taxes while
a resident when they cash in the IRA in another state.

  And, I know that some states (Hawaii being one of them)
that will charge non residents state tax for selling 
property for a capital gain.  They enforce this by requiring
the escrow to withold something like 6%.

thanks
gordon
From: richter@mcc.com (Charlie Richter)
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
Subject: Re: Middle Class Hit Again in 1992 Tax Bill
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:22:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcc.1992Aug19.222230.20027
Distribution: usa
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX

>   My understanding of it was that pre-1986 tax reform, company paid
>   items (such as the money your company paid directly to a moving
>   company for moving your household goods) were not reported as income.

I don't think so, but I'm not certain.

>   Even those items that were reported as income were deductible
>   on form 1040 or 1040A, without itemizing.

Yes, you could deduct some things on the 1040/1040A before 1986.
However, you couldn't deduct everything.  I moved in 1984.  My move
included buying and selling a house, transporting furniture, etc.,
and I remember paying a lot of tax on the reimbursement of my moving
expenses.  (That's why I said this is not a new tax.  It was around
in the early 80's, too.)
-- 
Charlie Richter   MCC   Austin, Texas
  uucp: richter@milano.uucp     arpa: richter@mcc.com
"The panic ... was not due to anything fundamentally weak in either business
   or finance.  It was confined to the market itself."   - WSJ, Oct. 31, 1929
From: J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Newsgroups: misc.taxes
Subject: Re: Why Are You Volunteering?
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:40:51 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.

In <2fG903Af5ekD00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, Doug Fierro writes:

>>  Hey, if you can come up with a way for people not to have to pay income
>>tax, I'd be all for it.  But in reality, the "Congress shall have power"
>>part of the Amendment pretty much spells it out, at least to me, that they
>>would find some way to enforce income tax should a court rule somehow that
>>income tax is voluntary.  What that means is they could tack on a standard
>>Section 2 clause if they have to in order to make it "non-voluntary".

Actually, this would have to be the 28th Amendment (with the 27th finally
having been ratified earlier this year).  No doubt, the Feds would use the
same coercion that they used to force the states to adopt the 55 MPH speed
limit and the "national" drinking age of 21.  They would almost certainly
threaten to withhold federal funds for states which refuse to ratify the
amendment (very sneaky and anti-10th Amendment, IMHO).  You would see those
state legislatures between a rock and a hard place, voting to ratify a law
that 99% of the people would despise.  (The other 1% are IRS agents who want
to stay employed!  :-)  )

All this talk is making me wish that the Libertarians were in power...

Tim Irvin   j056600@lmsc5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com
***************************************************************************
The Federalist Papers:  Cliffs Notes for Constitutional study.  Use it.
Newsgroups: misc.writing
From: aardvark@dragon (Pam Williams)
Subject: Re: Desktop Publishing/Tech Pubs
Organization: University of Lowell Computer Science, Lowell MA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:40:09 GMT

I may be a real anomaly in the world of tech writing, but in almost every
job I've ever held as a tech writer, publications specialist, or what-have-
you, I've always been either the only writer or one of two writers and I've
been responsible for creating entire books, from concept to printing, all by
myself. At the most, I've been able to show my work-in-progress to the other
writer for feedback and more careful editing and proofing than I'm generally
capable of after working on the same book for more than a month. Production
department? You've gotta be kidding! Editors? I wish! 

As a "one woman show," I'm expected to know my way around whatever desktop
publishing package the company I work for has decided to buy, as well as any
additional graphics packages that are available for creating illustations or
cleaning up screen dumps to be used as examples. I don't know if this has
improved my salary or not, since I've never worked in a company that didn't
rely on desktop publishing packages for their user documentation.

However, I have noticed during my periods of searching for jobs that salary
rates depend a lot on what industry you're trying to work in. High tech
writers make a hell of a lot more than desktop publishing operators and
writers working in the publishing industry. There are also increasing demands
on writers in both the more computer-oriented skills (desktop publishing,
graphics package competence, etc.) and more traditional publication skills
manual pasteup, typography, 4-color work, etc.) at the same time. For tech
writers in general, familiarity if not competence with common programming
languages and operating systems is becoming a standard requirement.
 
-- 
Pamela S. Williams                         85 Gershom Ave. #3
a.k.a. Wonder Aardvark                     Lowell, Ma 01854
aardvark@dragon.cpe.ulowell.edu            (508)453-1753
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Newsgroups: misc.writing
From: viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge)
Subject: Quote or simile for "success?"
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:26:13 GMT


Hello everyone,

I'm having trouble writing the closing remarks to a speech
I'm giving at work next Thursday. I'd like this speech to
end with a bang, but somehow it falls short.

This is my last paragraph:

	In closing this is a wonderful group, a group of
	caring, fun loving, intelligent, and determined
	people who are willing to get things done. 
	They give meaning to the word "success."

Yawn-"they give meaning to the word "success."

I need a quote or maybe a simile. I haven't found one that
fits however. Can you help?

Thanks!

Vivian

viviana@tamri.com

Newsgroups: misc.writing
From: psrc@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Paul S. R. Chisholm)
Subject: Re: writing insecurities
Reply-To: psrc@pegasus.att.com (Paul S. R. Chisholm)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:42:07 GMT

In article <92225.154641U52892@uicvm.uic.edu> <U52892@uicvm.uic.edu>
(Sheila) writes:
>Yesterday, I submitted an article to my boss. She told me the
>article was good but needed revisions. At that point, I started
>to have self-doubts on whether I am just not a good writer. . . .
>
>I realized journalism is different from fiction and technical writing.

My experiences with journalism (specifically, PC Magazine) have lead me
to believe that a "copy editor" is someone who copies exactly what you
write, except for changing all the sentences, and rearranging the
structure.-)  Maybe my experience is atypical.  Rewriting is *much*
more common in Hollywood, and much rarer in prose fiction.  I assume
most technical copy editors know better than to use a different word
than the subject matter expert suggested.  As for poetry, there's only
one response to being rewritten, but beware:  your lawyer may not be
able to get you off on a self-defense plea.-)

As many other people have observed in misc.writing, fresh eyes can see
what yours have been too close to notice.  You've got to accept, in
your heart, that it's the piece that's being criticised, not you.
(Some critics attach writers, not writing; this can again lead you to a
self-defense plea.)

>But any comments, suggestion or personal stories on doubting one's
>calling --- in this case, journalism --- and ability are welcome.

I find I can look at everything I can do, then look around and say,
"He can do *this* better, and she can do *that* better," and so on,
until I can't figure out what I bring to the project.  The only
solution I have is to *do* this, and *do* that, and do them until
they're good, and move on.

Note:  this can make working with wizards very depressing.  Working
with bozos is depressing in a very different way, and you're less
likely to enjoy success at the end.

Paul S. R. Chisholm, AT&T Bell Laboratories/EasyLink Services,
att!pegasus!psrc, psrc@pegasus.att.com, AT&T Mail !psrchisholm
I'm not speaking for the company, I'm just speaking my mind.
I'm also not speaking for Ziff-Davis Publications, the publishers
of PC Magazine, nor have I written for them in several years.
From: U52892@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: misc.writing
Subject: writing insecurities
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:46:41 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Have you ever felt like this?


I'm a struggling reporter in Chicago. There are times when I feel
I'm wasting my time in journalism. When people ask me why I like
journalism, I tell them I'm good at it. But am I really good?

Yesterday, I submitted an article to my boss. She told me the
article was good but needed revisions. At that point, I started
to have self-doubts on whether I am just not a good writer. I know
I'm a good reporter but not a good writer. My articles are often
well-researched and substantial but structure is weak and awkward.
How will I become a good writer?

I realized journalism is different from fiction and technical writing.
But any comments, suggestion or personal stories on doubting one's
calling --- in this case, journalism --- and ability are welcome.

Correction: Nope, I'm not undergoing mid-life crisis. I'm too
young for that.

Sheila
From: andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Some call me...Drew)
Newsgroups: misc.writing
Subject: Sequels (was Re: Work in progress)
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:54:56 GMT
Organization: Leapers For a Better Yesterday

I'm actually not responding to the meat of Crawford's post, because I have
another question (^/v rant).

Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca (Crawford Kilian) writes:
>About a week ago, my editor at Del Rey told me they had turned down a proposal
>I'd sent them for a science-fiction novel, but they would be interest in a
>possible sequel to my last novel, a fantasy called Greenmagic.

Is this becoming more of a trend in novels?  I would have thought that
editors would be far more excited to see a new idea explored, rather than
returning to the same old theme. (This isn't a flame, as based on the rest
of the article [see deleted text...oops] you're taking different tacks with
all three books.  However, you seem to be an exception.) It just irks me 
that some authors can become very successful (no names--I'm sure we all
have our own examples) by writing and rewriting the same novel, never having
to come up with an original idea.

[flame off]

-- 
"Me and you, a two man crew, 
 side by side we are united,
 we will never be divided...."

                                                  Au revoir, mon cherie.
From: landriau@Software.Mitel.COM (Marc Landriault)
Newsgroups: misc.writing
Subject: Pre World War 2 Memorabilia
Date: 11 Aug 92 20:25:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


A good friend of mine has a book (published in 1936)
including copies of original photos concerning
pre World War 2 memorabilia.

This book is in very good condition for the year.

He saw an article published in 1975, which stated
these photos could be worth a good sum of money,
but he never persued this further.
(Not really knowing who he should contact.)

Currently, he would like to have this book assessed
by someone who professionaly deals with World War 2 
memorabilia.

If someone can refer me to either a company or individual
that is reputable, it would be much appreciated...

Thanks in advance,

Marc Landriault.
Newsgroups: misc.writing