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From: bern@Uni-Trier.DE (Jochen Bern)
Subject: Re: 'Virtual' window manager
Originator: bern@kleopatra
Organization: Theor. CS, FB IV / CS, Univ. of Trier, Germany (Internet TI.Uni-Trier.DE)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:41:27 GMT

In <1993Jan22.142350@mccall.com> tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot) writes:
>In article <C15GCC.2zw@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, csg078@cch.coventry.ac.uk
>(~Zebedee~) writes:
>>Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 'virtual' window managers
>>(ovwm and tvwm, I think)?
>>
>>It's where you have a area many times bigger than the screen, and can group
>>windows in the different 'virtual' screen areas, and switch between them.
>>(Similar to NeXTs virtual window manager).

>Does anyone know of one of these that works with DECwindows/Motif 1.1 on VMS?
>I'm beginning to have too many icons. :-)

olvwm (OPEN LOOK Virtual Window Manager) Version 3.0 is available on
ftp.ira.uka.de, Directory /pub/x11, File olvwm-3.0.tar.Z. It's plain
Unix, so VMSers beware ... However, its Doc references the olwm (!)
Manpage which says

DESCRIPTION
     olwm is a window manager for the X Window System that imple-
     ments  parts  of the OPEN LOOK graphical user interface.  It
     is the standard window manager for  Sun's  OpenWindows  pro-
     duct, but it will work properly with any X11 system.

So, there SHOULD be a Way to have it work on Unix Systems. Have a Friend
with a SUN make a Copy of the olwm Manpage for you - The Options not con-
cerned with Virtual Stuff are explained only there.

Good Luck,
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From: spy@castlab.uucp (Mark W. Spychalla)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: How do I compute 24 bit TrueColor pixel value from RGB color?
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:31:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1993Jan26.203113.8117
Organization: University of Wisconsin- Madison


Hello,

    Does anyone know how to portably determine what pixel value should be
used for an RGB color on a 24 bit display?

    A few years ago I had brief access to a 24 bit DECstation 5000/200
PXG turbo that I remember used:

   pixel_value = (red << 16) | (green << 8) | blue;

Today, I was able finally to use another 24 bit machine again (an Iris!) for
a few minutes and it used:
 
   pixel_value = (blue << 16) | (green << 8) | red;

So I believe the pixel value computation for a TrueColor visual is server
dependent.  I have written several X graphics programs (x3d, xdart) and
am  now finishing up work on a new renderer with my friend Abe.   I want to
improve the portability of my code and have it work on all 24 bit servers,
so I will appreciate any suggestions on determining how to perform the
correct pixel value computation.

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   Mark Spychalla (spy@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu)
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From: wladimir@dfki.uni-sb.de (Wladimir Minenko)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Xpaint 2.0 compile error (math.h)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:49:49 +0100
Organization: DFKI - German Research Center for AI
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gs-serv1.dfki.uni-sb.de

I think I know a solution: add -Dsparc (if you have SPARC) or
something else (if you have something else) to the compiler
call and it will be happy.

For more details see /usr/include/math.h There will be set
some types for floating point operations in depending on
used hardware.

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From: avinash@felix.contex.com (Avinash Chopde)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Defeating the resource file search path.
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:16:40 GMT

Is there any way to defeat the default X resource file search path?
It is extremely difficult to modify X programs if it involves changing
resource files---even if I keep a copy of the resource file in the
current directory, the default X mechanism *merges* all the resource file
it finds - from /usr/lib/app-defaults, from $XUSERFILESEARCHPATH,
.Xdefaults, and $XENVIRONMENT!

Is it possible to force a X program to use only resource files in
the current directory, and inhibit this merging of resource files?

If this is not possible, how does a X developer maintain and debug
X resource files? (Edit the resource files in *all* the locations 
on your system is an answer!)
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: k202043@lee.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Karin Meier)
Subject: Problems with t3d / Xext
Keywords: Xext
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Distribution: dkrz
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:02:11 GMT

I can't compile the tetris 3-dimensional game t3d. 
I've got a list of undefined symbols:

ld: Undefined symbol
   _xgl_fpat_hatch_diag_135 
   _xgl_lpat_cgm_dashed 
   _xgl_lpat_dashed_dotted 
   _xgl_fpat_hatch_grid_d_dbl 
   _xgl_fpat_hatch_grid_d 
   _xgl_lpat_cgm_dotted 
   _xgl_marker_square 
   _xgl_lpat_dash_dot 
   _xgl_marker_bowtie_nw 
   _xgl_lpat_dashed 
   _xgl_lpat_dotted 
   .........
   _dga_win_grab 
   _dga_win_widinfop 
   _dga_cm_ungrab 
   _XDgaGrabZbuf 
   .........
   _XShapeQueryExtension
   _XShapeCombineMask

I think the problem could be the library Xext.
Xext is as object-library in /usr/lib: libXext.a 
				       libXext.so.4.10
but nothing more.

Thanks in advance.

Please reply to:	Karin Meier
			karin.meier@dkrz-hamburg.de



Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: d90-two@hitam.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Changing cursor during grab
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:33:39 GMT

Problem:

I have a pointer grab, and during the grab I want to change the cursor.
XChangeActivePointerGrab() changes both the event mask, the cursor and the
"time", and I don't know the current values of the event mask and the "time".
Is there any way I can find out these values? Or, even better, a way to
change the cursor only?
If this isn't possible, I might be able to keep track of the event mask...
is there any value of the "time" parameter that's always safe?

(Running on a Sun 4, using X11R4 or X11R5 (and Motif 1.1.3, but that shouln't
make any difference?))

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From: klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: SunSoft's OpenWindows Directions
Date: 27 Jan 1993 10:09:54 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de

In article <lmbdp8INNomg@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, pierre@stendhal.Eng.Sun.COM
(Pierre Bedard (SunSoft Windows Marketing)) writes:
|> 
|> In addition, SunSoft will be 
|> standardizing on ddx for the writing of graphics frame 
|> buffer device drivers.

Will these standardizing efforts include submitting source code to the X
Consortium's X11?


|> This, along with the adoption of 
|> a standard Xinput extension mechanism, will lower the 
|> cost of bringing hardware peripherals to market.

Will this "a standard Xinput extension mechanism" be the XINPUT extension
which is already in the X11 source distribution? Do you already have
concrete plans which devices to support?


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From: iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu (ARIT ISMAIL)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X for color NeXT?????......
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:34:47 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines


Hi there,

I don't know if this is the right place to post this question,
but I need some help with getting X up and running on color NeXT.
Does anybody know where I can get X (need binaries, don't have space to
compile)
for color NeXT? I got X for Mono(2 bits) NeXT up and running, but the same
binaries doesn't work for color one( show very small multiple windows 
on the screen).
I appreciate any help.

iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu
From: lallemen@moselle.loria.fr (Yannick Lallement)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X screen dump
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:30:37 GMT
Distribution: comp.windows.x
Organization: INRIA-Lorraine / CNRS - CRIN - Nancy - France
In-reply-to: lallemen@bellieni.loria.fr's message of 20 Jan 93 16:53:40 GMT

>>>>> On 20 Jan 93 16:53:40 GMT, lallemen@bellieni.loria.fr (Yannick Lallement) said:


>> I need to dump an entire X screen to a file. xwd does not do that. I
>> need something which can work on a X-terminal (the Sun "screendump" is
>> not ok.) If you have any idea...


Thanks for the answers. There are two solutions : get xgrab and
xgrabsc, or use xwd -root (not documented on the manpage, try xwd
-help.)


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From: geeb@math.lsa.umich.edu (Mark A Gebert)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Classroom X server
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:00:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: controve.1k51doINN6e7
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
NNTP-Posting-Host: tanqueray.math.lsa.umich.edu

We are looking for a program to take one copy of a program and display
the results in real time on all the other displays.

Here is the situation:

We are using Sun IPC's and IPX's (running X11R5) for helping visualize
3rd term calculas problems (fun stuff like volumes and surfaces). We are 
using mapleV as the teaching aid. What would be nice is during discussion
sections the TA could fire up his copy of xmaple have it displayed on his
machine and all of his students. So everyone could be looking at the same
thing and not worry about having to type things. 

At the current time I wrote a crude script to capture a window, save it
to a file and display it on all the machines. Something more interactive
would be ideal.

So does something like this exist out there or is it time to start hacking.

Thanks in advance.


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
From: Mulbry@tera.com (Rob Mulbry (TCG))
Subject: Display of CAPS LOCK
X-Orig-Msg-Id: <1993Jan25.233036.14141@tera.com>
Apparently-To: motif@alphalpha.com
Organization: TCG Vashon, WA
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Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:30:36 GMT

Hello,

	I am working on a HP 9000/720 and the keyboard has no
display of the CAPS LOCK key.  This can be very inconvient because
the caps lock is very close to <esc> and I keep hitting one when
I want to hit the other.  Is there any way I can create a application
that will pop up (or light up or whatever) when I press that key.

I want it to work while I am in vi on a xterm window so I can't change
the application to display it.  I need something stand alone that 
just watches that key.

Any ideas???

Robert Mulbry
Email: rob@tcg.com
Phone (206) 463-5176
The Cummings Group, Inc
PO. Box 1606
Vashon, WA 98070
From: avinash@felix.contex.com (Avinash Chopde)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Defeating the resource file search path.
Summary: XFILESEARCHPATH is the key!
Date: 28 Jan 93 22:26:19 GMT

In article <1437@pivot-sts.sbi.com>, ray@rann.sbi.com (Raymond Blum) writes:
> In article 3310@contex.contex.com, avinash@felix.contex.com (Avinash Chopde) writes:
> >Is there any way to defeat the default X resource file search path?
> >It is extremely difficult to modify X programs if it involves changing
> >resource files---even if I keep a copy of the resource file in the
> >current directory, the default X mechanism *merges* all the resource file
> >it finds - from /usr/lib/app-defaults, from $XUSERFILESEARCHPATH,
> >..Xdefaults, and $XENVIRONMENT!
> >
> >Is it possible to force a X program to use only resource files in
> >the current directory, and inhibit this merging of resource files?
> >
>   Why not have your program set the relevant environment variables BEFORE initializing X? You could set XENVIRONMENT to something along the lines of 'dirname `$0`'... couldn't you?

Yup, but that does not solve the problem - since X will still merge files
from the  standard places.

Thanks to all the persons who sent in replies.
Here's the answer that works for me:
1) set XFILESEARCHPATH  to some dummy directory, to defeat the
   X manager from looking in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults
2) If necessary, set XUSERFILESEARCHPATH (to dummy path or current
   directory or whatever).
3) If necessary, set XENVIRONMENT.
4) If necessary, clear out .Xdefaults (load it with xrdb, etc).

Actually, all I need to do is in 1).
The manual I have (O Reilly Vol 4) does not mention that variable.
It works on my system, so I finally have a method to debug/maintain X
resource files....!

> ---Raymond
> >If this is not possible, how does a X developer maintain and debug
> >X resource files? (Edit the resource files in *all* the locations 
> >on your system is an answer!)
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jv@mh.nl (Johan Vromans)
Subject: Looking for simple curses like X interface
X-Md4-Signature: 58226400be3fbe96d83e1c7a77e0a956
Organization: Multihouse Automation, the Netherlands
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:25:41 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for a curses-like X interface. 
What I mean is a simple package that allows a curses oriented
application to open its own X window, and perform elementary
operations like moving the cursor, adding (and displaying) text, etc.
Nothing fancy like graphics or fonts is needed. Not even multiple
windows. 

Sources or pointers to sources are appreciated.

	Johan
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: dshaker@qualix.com (Doug Shaker)
Subject: Re: X-Terminals
Reply-To: dshaker@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:05:32 GMT

In article 760@ardvar.moundst.mn.org, krs@ardvar.moundst.mn.org (Kent Schumacher) writes:
>Recently there have been several ads for under $1000.00 X-Terminals in UNIX
>World (the ones that come to mind are from QUME and Textronics).
>
>Is there a 'gotcha' associated with these low cost x-terminals?  How do
>they compare to the higher priced terminals?
>
>(I'm not just making idle conversation - these low cost x-terminals have
>my company thinking about dumping our character terminals and replacing
>them with x-terminals.  Net opinions will definitely help in deciding the
>issue).
>
I have used both the NCD 15b and the Tektronix Xp11 and have had really good
luck with both.  Both ARE small in pixel count (typically 1024x768) and in size
(usually 15" diagonal).  Both came with ethernet interfaces built in.  Both
worked great.  I recommend at least 4mb of memory (if you plan to have more than
about 5 windows open).  Tektronix has a neat feature that I like - if you log
into Xdm and don't have a session file to tell it what clients and window manager
to use, it automatically starts up twm and an xterm.  That helps alot in getting
them installed.  Both are quiet and reliable.  I say go for it.
 

 - Doug Shaker
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From: singhal@sol.cis.udel.edu (Amod Singhal)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: How to incorporate Xlib-based GUI into a Motif-based GUI? HELP!
Date: 25 Jan 1993 08:43:12 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.cis.udel.edu
Keywords: XLIB, MOTIF

Hi!
I'm new to XWindows programming and need help.
Please email responses directly to singhal@cis.udel.edu

PROBLEM SUMMARY:
How can I incorporate a window (created using Xlib calls 
exclusively) into a composite GUI which is to be built
using Xt or Motif or a Motif-based GUI builder?

DETAILED DESCRIPTION:
I'm enhancing an existing package (Mike Patton's "MAP" 
program for displaying network topology) which uses Xlib
functions to do all X-windowing.  The package displays
a rectangular window in which network nodes
are displayed. There is a text input area at the 
bottom of the window where commands may be entered.
Entering commands or clicking on a displayed node generates
textual information.  However, this info is displayed not in 
the map window, but in the shell from which MAP was invoked.

I want to make the following enhancements:

1.	Provide point and click capability for invoking all
	command line commands, some of which require parameters.

2.	Display all information within a single GUI which contains:
	the map window (without changing any of its current functionality),
	the necessary menu buttons for invoking the commands, and an additional
	area to display the output generated by commands or clicking on the nodes.

Since I have a GUI builder, I would like to use it to build
the interface as far as possible. I would like to avoid all
Xlib level programming. How do I go about making these changes?

Thanks in advance.
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From: alt@nvr.com (Al Tabayoyon)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: What happened to the X Color Management System?
Keywords: Xcms, Color
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:53:25 GMT
Organization: North Valley Research

The X Color Management System (Xcms) is not an extension but instead a
standard part of Xlib that has always been available in X11R5.  The
Xcms enhancements to Xlib are documented in Chapter 6 of the
	Xlib - C Language X Interface
	MIT X Consortium Standard
	Version 11, Release 5
available in the X11R5 release in mit/doc/Xlib and mit/hardcopy/Xlib.
You can also get the same info in the X11R5 version of "X Window System
- C Library and Protocol Reference" from Digital Press.

As for the book mentioned in O'Reilly's "R5 Update", I apologize that it
has not been published.  O'Reilly and Associates have done a wonderful job
of providing X related manuals and references to the X community.  I'm sure
its difficult for them to keep up with the mass of X info so their efforts
must be directed to projects based on percieved demand.  I'm expecting
word from O'Reilly and Associates on how they would like to proceed
with the "X Color Management" related book that has been placed on the
"back burner".

Like I said Xcms is in X11R5 Xlib.  North Valley Research (NVR) is using
it successfully to improve the display of MPEG images.  If anyone else
has related success stories I'd like to hear about them (send to alt@nvr.com).

The X Image Extension (XIE) addresses an X wire protocol for images, something
that Xcms intentionally stayed away from.  Fortunately like Xcms, XIE does
support device-independent color specification.

Al Tabayoyon
alt@nvr.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,gnu.g++.help,gnu.gcc.help
From: wolf@merlin.mt.att.com (Thomas Wolf)
Subject: Current version of xxgdb?..Demangling support?
Reply-To: wolf@merlin.mt.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:53:59 GMT

Could someone tell me where I can get the most current version of xxgdb - if it's
newer than 1.06 (which is what I have)?
On a related note: is it possible to automatically demangle C++-generated symbols?
Running v1.06 of xxgdb in conjunction with gdb4.7, I can't examine variables by
merely selecting them from the source window and choosing "Print"...Any suggestions
would be appreciated (I tried running the executable through AT&T's "demangle" but
wasn't too successful.)

Thanks in advance,
Tom

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From: nanni@mbcl.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Want to display multiple fonts in one window
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:32:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: mbcl.2166.2b652162


I am new to X-windows and have run into quite a problem.
From talking to some other users familiar with X-windoews,
this problem is not commonly run into.
I would appreciate it if somebody could help me out.
In short, the problem is:

What I want to do is this:
I want to simultaneously employ different fonts and 
font colors within the same X-window.

My Computer is an Silicon Graphics Iris 4D-120.

How I am trying to do this.
1.) I am running xwsh
2.) I have no trouble getting a "normal" font and
fontcolor with the -fn and -fg options, respectively.

3.) I can specify a bold font and an
italic font with the -boldfont and -italicfont options,
respectively.

4.) According to the writeup in the man pages for xwsh,
I should be able to toggle back and forth between these
fonts via appropiate ansi escape sequences.  This I have 
NOT been able to do.  I am completely baffled.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

                                 Raymond Nanni
                       E-mail: in%"nanni@biovax.rutgers.edu"
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x