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From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Controlling/Realizing you *ARE* dreaming
Summary: Dream, control
Keywords: Dream, control
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:22:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

There it is again -- the magic power dream --

 It is becoming more frequent - like every 2 days or 2 days on then a day off, etc.

 I was making a spell that would create a table to put a heavy book on, suddenly I noticed the door was open.

 I looked at it and looked in the door - found my old friend --
 Then apparently my subconcicuous(sp) re-connected to the active brain,
 and I knew I was dreaming - so I did free-for-all criminal things - 
 forcing a child to have sex with an adult, stripping a policeman's clothes,
 etc. I just laughed it off and when people were about to avenge aganist
 my mean-n-nasty things, I just snapped my fingers and it automatically
 shifted to another scene -- a better one, with me and my girlfriend.

 If I didn't like the dream - I coul "change" the channel -- just a snap of
 fingers will do.  Do as much harm as you want, just escape with a snap
 of fingers -- 

 I amn wondering how is THAT possible?!?!!

- Scott

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From: kdb@ops3.EBay.Sun.COM (Kevin DeBouse)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Help!?!?
Date: 19 Aug 1992 05:26:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kdb@ops3.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: ops3.ebay.sun.com


	Hello Everyone,

	This is my first post to this or any other news group, so please
	forgive any errors.

	I'd like to know if anyone can interpret this dream for me. I don't
	know what parts of the dream are important, so I'll have to bore you
	w/all the details I can remember. So here Goes.

	I go into El Toritos having somehow gained the knowledge that it is
	for sale. I explain to the host that I am interested in puchasing the
	restaurant, and ask if there's anyone who can show me around. In a seem-
	ingly annoyed posture, the host asks me to wait and pushes me aside w/
	his forearm. He immediately welcomes the customers who came in behind me
	and procedes to show them to a table. I wait patiently for his return,
	upon which I vehemently express my displeasure w/his attitude towards me.
	He begins to apologize, at which time the manager approaches and inquires
	as to the nature of the disturbance. As I begin to explain, more customers
	enter, and the manager cuts me off and pushes me aside to welcome them. At 
	this point I become rather angry, and refuse to allow the manager to walk
	away.(I never become physical) While I am in the midst of letting the man-
	ager know that he is not on my list of favorite people, one of the customers
	pushes me aside to talk w/the manager. I explode loudly and square off w/
	this person (still non physical) and engage in what I expect to be a shout-
	ing match. He however grows weary of the debate and after a few short words,
	he pulls a gun from his belt and shoots me in the head. For a few short sec-
	onds I stand in disbelief, then my legs crumple and I Fall to the floor,
	still in disbelief. For what seemed like several minutes I lay there ponder-
	ing the notion that I would be dead soon. Finally and rather slowly I wake
	up. This dream is uniquely more strange than any other dream I've had only
	in that it seemed so incredibly real. I even had the sensation of pain when
	I was shot. In the past I've had dreams where I've been shot, but there was
	no affect. How can I find out what (if anything) this all means. Help!!!!


	Kevin
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Subject: Re: Concert Dream
Organization: Fachschaft Informatik, Uni Karlsruhe
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:36:19 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <V1b-!2+@engin.umich.edu> Julie writes:

>  I had this really strange dream last night.  It was one of those dreams
[...]
>  out.  I remember thinking in the dream, "Why am I dreaming about Paula
>  Abdul???!!!  I am not a fan or anything.  Anyuway, this morning when I
>  brought
>  the boys to the sitter, I was commenting about how lousy the weather was
>  (rain).  My sitter told me that her daughter was going to a local outdoor
>  concert arena tonight, and that unfortunately the weather was just as bad
>  the
>  last time she was going to to see PAULA ABDUL!!!!.  What is really weird

Hmmm.
I think this kind of experiences is fairly common (at least to me, as is
the case with lucid dreams in general - am I biased?).
  ''You dream of X, and the next or next-next day, you experience 
  something real that has to do with X.''
(Some instances of X that have happened to me: moving to another town,
hearing of a cat having died - I'll tell this separately as it was
interesting on its own).

How could we explain this?
1- 'paranormal' way: your consciousness gets hold of things that will
happen in the future (is there a special term for it? Sorry, my
English isn't that good:-)
2- 'rationalistic' way: your consciousness does corrupt your dream
recall in the moment you hear of X.
Fortunately, there is a way of disproving 2: write down your dreams
immediately. 

I would like to hear from others about their thoughts about this.
Again, it seems to happen often; do people be not aware of it because
they have no lucid dreams? how is the interaction between such
experiences and 'belief' in 'paranormal' things?

MfG,
        Olaf
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uknf@dkauni2.bitnet - praetorius@irc - +49-721-60439 - did i forget something?
What high-level language should one use for system programming? The only
 reasonable candidate today is PL/I. - Fred Brooks (1975)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager)
Subject: odd Blue Fish dream... it haunts me still...
Summary: one fish two fish red fish...
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:50:03 GMT


Now here's a strange dream I had within the last week and it's stuck in my
mind; the image keeps popping into my head:

I'm fishing off a pier and very quickly manage to get a bite.  I reel in
the fish and hold it across my two open palms.  The fish has a kind of
grey-green-blue head (sort of a flat, very oceany color), and I notice the
hook.  It's not really through its mouth, the hook end is coming out higher
up on its head.  It's old and has a rather forlorn expression.  The eyes
are very intense, although unmoving and unblinking (like you'd expect from
a fish :-).  I know it is a Roballo, although I've never actually seen a
live Roballo.  (note: A Roballo is a small gamefish that lives in Central
America.  I had some when I went to Guatemala recently.)  I know that
Roballo's don't actually look like what was in my dream.  They are much
smaller, the fish I held was maybe 3 feet long.

So I start to walk away with this fish, to clean it, cook it, and eat it.
I look over the fish's (sp?) body.  It has brilliant dark iridescent blue
markings.  (It is the same blue that was featured in a dream I had a few
years ago, which contained a precious gem.  I guess my dreams only know one
shade of blue :-)  As I look at this fish I am struck by its beauty, and I
see that it's sad I am going to eat it.  So I turn around, and place it
back in the water.  It swims away gracefully, its body turning slowly
through the water as it goes down.

I wonder what it means?  
-Mike
From: david.hofmann@madness.network23.com (David Hofmann) 
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: SLEEP WALKING
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:10:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: david.hofmann@madness.network23.com (David Hofmann) 

        For as long as I can rember I have been sleep walking but not
like I have ever read on the subject most poeple aren't aware of them
selfs sleep walking inless some one wakes them I can rember most
of my excepers and almost always wasn't awoken.

        The farthest back memory of me sleep walking was when I was
about 6 I rember get up out of bed, taking a shower, putting my sunday
clothes on, and going out to play on the computer I start to load flight
simulator played for about an hour, then I went back to my room and got
back in bed. when I woke up the next morning I thought it was a dreem
intill I relized I was wereing my sunday clothes the weird thing was it
was it was sunday.

        This happen mainy times after that I awalys happen with
something that was going on in my life like lately I have been haveing a
recoring what ever you want to call this that I sit up in bed and start
pas imgery maps out my window and anwser question like I do at work the
only thing is I been on vaction.

        Does anyone ever have this happen to them or I just wierd.
                                                                      
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph)
Subject: Re: Perverse Lucidity
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 17 AUG 92 12:58:03    


In article <1992Aug15.000107.2354@gagme.chi.il.us>, pv@gagme.chi.il.us (Paul Vader) writes...
>mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com Writes:
>Your message underscores some of the problems I have with this newsgroup.
>Dreams are as close as most of us get to a mystical experience, so it's easy
>to assume that something secret and mystical is really happening. Does it
>have to be so? Can't dreams be (at least sometimes) enjoyed for what they
>are and be studied empirically? LaBarge's folks for the most part seem to 
>think so. Do any other skeptical dreamers read this group?
>
>Paul Vader              | "I said to them there's another one that the
>pv@gagme.chi.il.us      |  Nitty Ditty Nitty Gritty Great Bird does, and

Yes, there are other skeptical dreamers here.
I generally "n" the interpretation postings, cuz in my opinion they're
meaningless. I don't think dreams are much more than your brain relaxing
itself after a day's activities. Putting all kinds of mysticism into them is
just silly.
I just go along for the ride in dreams... I've been keeping a log of them for a
while now...
-Tom R.   randolph@est.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: vandelhg@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (MCG)
Subject: Re: Dream replays
Followup-To: alt.dreams
Organization: Vanderbilt
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:26:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.131930.8817@csc.ti.com>, alanj@dadd.ti.com (Alan
Jones) wrote:

> She tells me that as situations are unfolding in her dreams, if she is
> unhappy with the results, she can "will" a rewind or replay of the situation!
> She then uses the opportunity to try out different approaches to solving the
> problem at hand.  She sez she often goes thru several scenarios before she is
> satisfied.
> 
> Anyone else ever hear of this ability?!?

		I'm also capable of this, but with similar restrictions to the first
responder -- I'm not in total control.  What generally happens is that
there is an event in the dream which I suddenly realize that I don't want
(eg. falling through a trap door).  My mind (semi-conscious? or fully?)
immediately "rewinds" and tries to run through the event again.
		HOWEVER, I am not always successful.  Often, the event will recur in the
original form, and I have to rewind once more...this can go on for a while.
 Even worse, sometimes when I succeed, the undesirable event impinges
itself upon the rest of the dream.  For example, if I avoid the trap door
(by making it not appear), for the rest of the dream trap doors keep trying
to open up underneath me.  The result is that I am perpetually having to
"rewind" to fix the recurring situation, and sometimes I just give up and
let it go.
		This is annoying.  Any ideas?

MCG>
Pardon?
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: iota@agora.uucp (David Friedman)
Subject: Magnitizidat
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:11:55 GMT

Magnitizidat, PO Box 69322, Portland, OR  97201 USA

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Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: cardell@lysator.liu.se (Mikael Cardell)
Subject: Announcing PA Online
Summary: Announcing a new electronic zine. Free subscription.
Keywords: zine anarchy
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:06:11 GMT

 ANNOUNCING:
 **********************************
 Practical Anarchy Online
 **********************************
 a bi-monthly electronic zine
 featuring:
 
 * international anarchist news
 * anarchist scene reports
 * tips on "practical anarchy,"
 * living anarchy everyday
 * zine, music, and book reviews
 * essays and articles
 
 Publication schedule:
 January, March, May, July, September,
 November.
 
 Submissions due the last day of the
 preceding month.
 
******************************************
All material will be anti-copyright unless
copyrighted by a contributor.  Recipients
can do what they want with a downloaded
version as long as they credit the source.
 
We encourage folks in countries other than
the US and Sweden to create their own
paper versions of this zine and distribute
them to their friends.
******************************************
 
 Send stuff to the editors:
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         Internet: cmunson@macc.wisc.edu
         Bitnet: cmunson@wiscmacc.bitnet
         Postal address: Practical Anarchy
                         PO Box 173
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Subcription enquiries to cardell at the above addresses!

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Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: bart@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bart Gold)
Subject: Any Bostonians remember Cereal Killer?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:29:42 GMT

   Does anyone remember an amateur fanzine called Cereal Killer? 
   It was published a couple years before the TooMuchJoy album of he same
name, and was basically a collection of photocopied hand drawn comics.
    
   Bonus question; does anyone remember Scratch & Snivel? An orange-bound
photocopied zine which interviewed Gang Green & Quiet Riot?

   +-----+  Bart@Casbah.acns.nwu.edu |  Q: What do you get when you cross   
 B |   79|                           |   a deadhead with a skinhead?
   | Au  |  "What are the armaments  |  
   +-----+   on the lollipop?"       |  A: Dandruff.
From: sshapero@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Shapero)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Who Cares? Fanzine
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:42:37 GMT
Reply-To: sshapero@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Shapero)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

This seems like a good a place as any to post this...
_Who Cares?_ is a 30-40 page offset music zine that is published about
three times a year.  Most of the bands featured are from the Washington,
D.C. area, but that will change once I move to Santa Cruz, CA.  There
are your standard rekkid reviews, occasional show reviews, and literary
reviews that are written in a pompus manner.  The focus tends to be
on noisy/loud pop bands from the Sonic Youth-My Bloody Valentine-Dinosaur
Jr. direction.  The cost is $2 per issue, postage paid.
[see reviews in MRR]
Issue 1 - Holy Rollers, Jawbox, I Spy, stuff: Postive Force, Vic Shelter
the loser
Issue 2 - Senator Flux (R.I.P.), Strange Boutique, Shudder to Think,
Highback Chairs
Issue 3 - Gray Matter, Velocity Girl, William T. Vollman, the literary
superstar
Issue 4 - My Bloody Valentine, Swervedriver, Unrest, Tsunami, Michael
Brodsky (all you hip NYC literary types should know this guy)
Issue 5 - The Lilys, Swirlies, Hammerbox, Stumpy Joe, Zip Gun, more
Seattle shit, Seattle travel journal by David Levine, plus special bonus
surprise(s): available soon, don't order yet
T-Shirt: Art fag photo.  Purple on 100% cotton, $8 ppd., Black on 50/50,
$6 ppd.

_______________________________________________________________________
Steve Shapero               "If you really want you can stay/It doesn't
sshapero@oasys.dt.navy.mil   matter anyway/Just as long as you know/
ed. who cares? fanzine       That I don't care if you go"-Velocity Girl
  *These are my ideas, and the navy don't got nuttin' ta do wit it*
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: jerod23@well.sf.ca.us (Jerod Pore)
Subject: Stuffed
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:18:41 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.zine
Subject: Stuff
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Keywords: 



Sprother, IFJ (a most excellent zine) is reviewed in the tech zine file.
This file is available (like all others) via anonymous ftp at
ftp.msen.com /pub/newsletters/F5-E/tech

To the latest respondant re: F5.  I suggest you read my articles here and in
rec.mag  These questions have been answered already.

I sure hope there isn't a mail-art newsgroup, but after ploughing through a
bunch of mail-art, I'm probably biased.
Mail-art comes in two (lately three) popular formats.
1:  Sending collages, rubber stamped paper or generic xeroxagraphy to
networked or random people that they may add their contribution to it.
Think of it as a chain letter or round-robin art thing that collects more
random images.

2:  Mailing unusual stuff (dead animals, empty aerosal cans).  Hey!  It's
unusual, it's delivered by government workers.  It's art!

3:  The Art Strike (yawn).  Thank god this is the final year.
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Stuff
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Keywords:
From: asfjp@acad3.alaska.edu (Frederick J. Polsky V1.0)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Factsheet Five E-version
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:26:00 GMT
Organization: Maelstrom. Chaos.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

What's the FTP location for this beast? I've heard rumours of its existance.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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system@freds.cojones.com  |  The FredBox +1 907 344 8437  |  Waffle 1.65/WWCP
if you can read this, you probably don't attend the university of alaska......
Disclaimer: Oh, christ, you didn't think I was *serious*, did you? Go away.
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: mad-celt@cwis.unomaha.edu (Andrew Patrick Booth)
Subject: SOUND News & Arts
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 08:49:34 GMT


Get it!
Read it!
Flourish!
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| mad-celt@cwis.unomaha.edu               | available from ed@cwis.unomaha.edu |
| SOUND News & Arts Newspaper and Netzine |                                    |
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Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: spock@vulcan.surak.edu
Subject: Tai nasha no karosha !
Reply-To: spock@vulcan.surak.edu 
Organization: Technical University of Vulcan
Distribution: alt.zines
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:37:39 GMT

Lines:12

Lets have a look if this really works !

Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: spock@vulcan.surak.edu
Subject: Tai nasha no karosha !
Organization: Technical University of Vulcan
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:37:39 GMT


Lets have a look if this really works !

Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: spock@vulcan.surak.edu
Subject: Tai nasha no karosha !
Organization: Technical University of Vulcan
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:37:39 GMT

Lets have a look if this really works !
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: Reign o'Toads
Date: 18 Aug 1992 15:09:25 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

jerod23@well.sf.ca.us (Jerod Pore) writes:
: 
: I found "Reign of Toads" to be an interesting and entertaining article,
: however it contained a few factual errors regarding the transfer of
: Factsheet Five from Mike Gunderloy to Hudson Luce.  The most glaring of
: which was the so-called 'six figures'  Unless those figures are all zeros,
: or the transaction occured in Polish currency, that part was rather bogus.

which reminds me, there's some Polish 'zines in
	tirana.berkeley.edu:/pub/VARIA/polish/
Pigulki for one is a good read, it has news about Polish networking an a
"Back Page" column with suggested front and back sides of new Polish currency.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562


Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
Subject: Re: Factsheet 5
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:34:50 GMT

In <1992Aug12.032144.8507@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy) writes:


>Haven't received any posts for this group yet, but I assume it's for the
>discussion of 'zines (as in magazines)....

>Does anybody have any info on the current status of Factsheet Five???  I heard
>from Steve Brown of SF Eye that different people are publishing it now, and I
>have also heard that it might become an e-zine....

Depends.  What is the current issue?  I've only seen the first one since it's
been under new management.  Since it doesn't get out to stores anymore
(apparently) and no one I know had a standing subscription I haven't seen
anything of FF since.
From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: fps
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:57:18 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, QC CANADA

Wow, didn't even know this group existed... well, here's my two cents:

fps is an animation 'zine being published thrice yearly.  We're trying
not to be a typical news'n'(p)reviews-type animation zine, and when we
do fall into the trap of writing reviews we try to put a different spin
on them than most.  If you're an animation fan who's interested in 
animation from around the world and discussion thereof, drop us a line
at

6008 Hunter
Pierrefonds, Quebec
Canada H8Z 2E2
(until Sept. 1)

...or e-mail me at the addresses given below.  We're also looking for
contributors, BTW.

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From: dtasman@dante.nmsu.edu (Dan Tasman)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: Tai nasha no karosha !
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:24:42 GMT
Distribution: alt.zines
Organization: New Mexico State University

In article <1992Aug17.133754.12119@news.surak.edu> spock@vulcan.surak.edu  
writes:
> Lets have a look if this really works !

It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.

(fuggin' waste of bandwidth...)

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