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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Frampton Talkbox Schematic (Other Performers)
From: bud@megatek.com (Wayne Francis)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:16:15 GMT
Reply-To: bud@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

>   I have a question about string gauges for electric guitars.  I've been
>using .10s on my Ibanez electric, but the other day I played a friend's 
>Les Paul that was fitted with .09s.  It was incredibly easy to play!  Bending
>notes was so easy [too easy?] and playing fast Van Halenesqe pull-off runs
>was almost effortless.  I had no idea that a small change in string gauge
>could have such a profound effect.  Finger tapping was also incredibly easy.
>   Only problem is, I don't know if I should switch.  Is having mega-light
>strings cheating?  Do other players like Van Halen use such light guages?
>I know that Stevie Ray Vaughn used .13s [yikes!] and was somehow able to 
>have incredible bending and vibrato technique.  Also, I was reading an Arlen
>Roth book the other day and he said that .10s are the absolute lowest guage 
>you should use.  
>   I suppose one other aspect has to do with sound.  Do .09s generally sound
>good?  Thanks in advance...

There are two things to take into consideration here. First most Ibanez
guitars are some derivation of a Fender Stratocaster, usually having a
scale length of 25.5 inches.  Scale length is the distance between the
nut at the top and the bridge saddle at the bottom.  Most Gibsons including
the Les Paul are a bit shorter. The scale length of a les paul is 24.75
inches.  The longer the scale length the tighter the strings have to be 
in order to produce the same pitch as a shorter scale length, (basic physics
and all that).  In other words putting .09s on your guitat will not be
the same feel as you experienced on the Les Paul.  Additionally, bending
strings on a longer scale length is different.  The longer the scale
length the more bend it takes to get an equal change in pitch as
compared to a shorter scale length.  This is all assuming that your guitar
does indeed have a 25.5 inch scale length.  If you're not sure just get a 
yardstick and measure the distance between the nut and the bridge saddles.
The bottom line is that string guage and scale length are the two most
important factors in that difference you noticed.  Your guitar is a very 
personal thing. There is no such thing as cheating.  Try out different
things and then decide which is best for you.  I hope this little blurb is
helpful.
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From: dpm@msc.edu (David P. Mottaz)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: RE: Rosewood vs. Maple
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:17:37 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN

In article <By5puu.Ln@cs.dal.ca>, ronan@ug.cs.dal.ca (brian c ronan) writes:
|> frets though...the maple is good for just about everything
|> else but rosewood is much better....hell SRV used it

I have a strat with a maple neck/fretboard.  I bought it because I prefer
maple over rosewood.  I also play blues but I guess it's just a matter
of personal taste.  BTW, SRV also played strats with maple necks/fretboards,
just look at the cover of "Live Alive".


-David Mottaz
 dpm@msc.edu  (612)625-7589
 Minnesota Supercomputer Center Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Subject: Re: Giant's Dann Huff
Originator: npstewar@c00725-239rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:46:05 GMT


Before his studio work, Dan Huff ran around Christian music circles.  For a
several years he played for the band White Heart (This is fairly early eighties.)
He also did a lot of session work for other christian bands in the transition
between White Heart and the big league session work.  During his tenure with
White Heart he shared the guitar spot with Gordon Kennedy, who is pretty good,
but not on the same level as Dan. 

Dan played on the first album (I think), but it's kinda MELLOW, not what you're
expecting if you've only heard his latest stuff.  I'm not sure what his last
album with them was, but I know he's on Hotline, but I'm pretty sure he's not on
Don't Wait for the Movie.  I don't know if they put out anything between the two,
as there was a serious reorganization of the band at that time.

If you want to check just one out, I'd recommend Vital Signs (circa 84).
He also had some cool stuff (w/ a smidgen more of a vintage vibe- just a smidgen)
on the Margaret Becker album The Reckoning.  On the whole, pretty much all of
his session work is a couple of notches over the White Heart stuff where the mid
eighties synth stuff makes the later albums kinda hard to listen to now, and the
early albums were more laid back.

npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu
Nathan Stewart
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: us014782@mmm.serc.3m.com (Donald F. Hess)
Subject: Gibson Questions
Organization: 3M Company
Distribution: World
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:38:05 GMT

	Last night I was at a friends house doing a little jamming when
	he pops up with, 'Hey!  Look what I picked up at a garage sale
	for $75!'  He leaves the room and returns with an dusty old case
	and opens it up and..... I cried!  It was a GIBSON ES125T in
	relativly good shape (s/n - T7614 2).  Anybody know what this
	single pickup, f-hole, sunburst beauty is worth.  We are both
	interrested in it's history, construction and value.  Any help
	would be greatly appreciated.

	I've read lots of posts on Les Pauls and Les Paul Customs but
	I've never read a post on my guitar so I'd like to ask for the
	same info as above for my 1976 Les Paul Artisan.  It has gold
	hardware, triple PAF (I think) pickups, custom MOP inlays in the
	neck and head.  It's a dream to look at, listen to and
	especially to play (which was why I bought it way back then).  I
	saw, I played, I heard and I bought - that was the only research
	I needed.  Any tech. info and value info (no I don't want to
	sell it!) would be greatly appreciated.  It's in mint condition!
	By the way, it sounds beautiful thru my JC-120 amp.
-- 
Don Hess					EMAIL : dfhess@mmm.com
3M Company 					PHONE : (805) 388-4168
Data Storage Tape Technology Div		FAX   : (805) 388-4804
Camarillo, CA 93012-8485
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From: mike@vm1.mcgill.ca (Mike Woo)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Rosewood vs Maple
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:02:52 GMT
Organization: Computing Centre, McGill University

In article <JON.92Nov20095250@zeus.med.utah.edu> jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (
Jonathan Byrd) writes:>In article <1992Nov20.020701.24226@microsoft.com> 
erikm@microsoft.com (Erik Madsen) writes:
>   I've just recently entered the world of Strats.  I guess a bad one or two
>   kept me away from them for years, but I've had some really great 
experiences>   with them lately.  Right now I'd like to buy one of the 
Fender reissue>   models, but something keeps cropping up: the difference 
between a maple>   neck and a rosewood neck.

>I bought a Strat in 1979.  After playing both fingerboard types, I
>chose the rosewood fingerboard.  I found the slipperyness/stickyness
>of the varnished maple fingerboard unpredictable.  It was particularly
>noticeable for me while bending a string, and applying a vigorous hand
>vibrato.

>--
>jonathan byrd
>jon@apollo.med.utah.edu

    I've noticed some maple necks have a subtle lacquer-like finish on them
which makes the fingerboard a little more "slick" and facilitates bending/
vibrato.  I'm partial to the feel of the natural wood myself.

                                   In Quest of the Ultimate Tone,
                                              Mike Woo
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson)
Subject: Re: Recording equipment tips (wanted)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:36:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: balon@cup.hp.com (Tom Balon)
Subject: Re: Small Tube Amp
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:56:25 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Nov16.171427.15824@gtech.com> trp@gtech.com (Tom R. Peterson (consultant)) writes:
>I would appreciate suggestions for a small tube amp, along with
>suggested price.  Under consideration are:  Mesa .22, Fender Princeton, 
>Gibson Scout, ???.  Also, how do people FIND older amps without paying
>$400+?  I have this fantasy of hundreds of amps sitting in attics and
>basements waiting to be sold at yard sales for $15.  Should I just 
>smell the coffee and spend $500 for a Fender at my local store?
>


	Since you are considering the Mesa Studio 0.22, you should 
	do the following. Take a flashlight and examine the circuit
	board from the bottom near the power tubes. On older 0.22's,
	there is a large 470 ohm 1 watt carbon resistor that tends
	to burn out with time. If you see a large brown spot on the
	circuit board, you've got potential problems. Mesa upgraded
	this part in later models. 

	Next, turn the amp on and play through it for a while, then
	check how hot the power tubes are. Of course they'll be hot
	but if they seem overly hot and the amp lacks punch or power
	chances are the bias supply resistor is bad. The amp will work
	but will sound bad at high volumes. Another sign of this is
	the plastic pcb supports being yellow/brown and brittle from
	excess heat from the power tubes. The bias supply was altered
	in later 0.22 cal. Boogies to correct this.

	These are a few of the most common problems with the 0.22 boogie
	I see during repairs. Both are easily corrected.
	
	Regards,
	 Tom

    +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
	T.A.S.            		
	Tube Amp Service  	      "On the trailing edge of technology."
	3455 Homestead Rd #14
	Santa Clara, Ca. 95051  (408) 243-7745 PST
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson)
Subject: Re: Peavey T=Probs!(sorry)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:24:29 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: PA11060@utkvm1.utk.edu "Bob Bradley's non prefered account"
Subject: Test of news system
Organization: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:42:09 GMT

Now is the time to test the news posting system.  This posting is from
my CMS account.  Please ignore this message.
Thanks
Bob B.
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From: caedmon@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Steve Vai
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:00:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


dmm@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Mason) writes:

>In reply to axeman's exercise letter:

>I am looking for a couple of good exercises to develop fluid 8-fingered legato.

Yeah, I'm going to type up a few pages of mine.  Since I got them, my teacher
got signed with Relativety Records, so there's some copyright issue.  I'll
have to re-do all of them and that can take a few hours.  I'll post them
when I do.

-jq

-- 
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,;';,   caedmon@ucscb.ucsc.edu               Jeff Ishaq          .,;';,
,;';,   I am a meatball:  Bite me.           Guitar withdrawal!  .,;';,
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From: banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: Goth Clothing Catalogs
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:11:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon") writes:
>I don't think we ever did get any addresses out of the request
>for information on catalogs selling goth clothing (or did I
>miss something?).  Doesn't anyone know anything?

I think the upshot is that there is no "Goths-R-Us" and you'll have to pick
and choose to get a selection of clothing.  A lot of the stuff is ex-theater
or antique/thrift store material.  Learn to sew and you can alter things to
suit.

If this is difficult for you, you might consider tattooing yourself black.

-- 
The Wailer at the Gates of Dawn              | banshee@cats.UCSC.EDU       |
Just who ARE you calling a FROOFROO Head?    |                             |
DoD#0667  "Just a friend of the beast."      | banshee@ucscb.UCSC.EDU      |
2,3,5,7,13,17,19,31,61,89,107,127,521,607....| banshee@ucscb.BITNET        |
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Subject: Re: Satanism and Gothdom?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:32:46 GMT

I wish I had more time to go into it further, but there is not a firm
relation between Devil-worship and the Gothic subculture.  For example,
many of the people here are pagan/wiccan/heathen.  There are also a
large number of Catholics and recovering Catholics attracted (for obvious
reasons) to the gothic aesthetic.

In my opinion, there are two branches of what is known as gothic, and
one of them is more Heavy Metal/Satan oriented.  Fortunately, I do not
have to deal with that here.

Regards.
-- 
Scott Hanson		This has been a recording.
despair@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Ghost with the Most=)
Subject: Re: sigh, oh sigh; findi..."gothics real"
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:54:49 GMT

edited a bit

mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon") writes:

>min215ii  writes:
>> RE: Gothic clothing
>> 
>All I was stating was that too many people are getting far too 
>uptight because a few people who are not otherwise into goth
>are wearing clothes like they are.  Actually, I haven't seen

>brainwashed masses will quickly find something else to make
>into a fad and goth will be just as unpopular with the general

>goth clothing is being sold in malls now, who cares?  If you're
>really goth, you know who you are, and no one else should be
>associated with such pettiness, I'm not sure I want anything to
>do with it anymore.  At that point, it becomes nothing more
>than another trend.

The first fallacy here is in saying that ANYone is REALly "goth".
The Second is where you say that gothic is not a style or TREND.

IT is.  That is why you do it.  That is why anyone would do it.
There are no individuals, not in the sense of 'anarchistic' jargon
where everyone is doing everything for themself only.  People are 
ruled by other people, no matter how much you attempt to fool yourself.
You will always fix yourself for others approval.  That is the way
social animals work, and we are.
Gothic is a style no matter what definition you give it.  I do
not like to call things TRENDs but that too fits in this case.

Bluntly, I know entirly too many people who run around saying I am
"Goth" and yOu are not!  For whatever reason, they go "I have been a
Goth since I was six" , or "I saw you wear color two days ago!"  I have found
that the people who do this are the ones with no confidence, no real personality
all they have is the trend to give them 'fashion' and 'friends'.  Give it up
last time I had to deal with people trying to tell me how to be real was
High School.
  This is not
the way the world works for me.  I will wear whatever I damn well please.
I will not get offended if someone else imitates the way I dress.  I
will wear clothes that are appealing to other people as well as myself.

The rest is my personality and you certainly can't ever touch that.


Yours truely and sincerely, and with loving grace of the our dark lord,
-- 
         %            I am the shadow child of my world.          % 
        %                 cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU                %
       %    F1V]D('-A=F4@=&AE(%%U965N+"!';V0@8FQE<W,@=7,@06QL+@I    %
 
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From: mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....)
Subject: Peter Murphy
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:29:40 GMT

In <Bxz6CD.F28@ruacad.ac.runet.edu> ashaw@ruacad.ac.runet.edu (Eldritch) writes:

>  When I met peter murphy a few years ago he cleared that little detail up
>for me.  :)
What was he like. Tell us more... Adam.
Under what circumsatnces did you meet him?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-John Mc Donagh.                   ~~                         {Nascent Virion}
mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie              ~~         "I dress my tears in costumes.."
				   ~~
"The next performance is a comedy, Beware of the soothsayers sop
 Untangle the pearls, Don't hinder the pages, Beat the reaper to the crop."
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: cs331333@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs331333)
Subject: Re: Bauhaus' "Bela Lugosi's Dead"
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:51:54 GMT

In article <By2zyo.Ctu@ruacad.ac.runet.edu> ashaw@ruacad.ac.runet.edu (Eldritch) writes:
>the lyrical correction)... he was very polite, his eyes are that same blue
>that is on the bauhaus tee-shirt with the face/blue eyes, he moves VERY
>quickly and is pencil thin. 

I saw him this summer, he is physically stunning, I kept saying to my
girlfriend, "they must be contact lens!".  Amazing eyes.

He wasn't too polite with my audience.  He was trying to sing as girls
screamed things like, "I love you Peter" (etc., etc.) he finally got
annoyed, said Americans are rude, and he would leave if they didn't
shut up.  I didn't blame him really, I'd rather hear _him_ than those
girls.  Thought it was funny in relation to Morriessey (sp?) too, I
went to his concert the summer before that, and he too got annoyed
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Subject: Re: Bauhaus' "Bela Lugosi's Dead"
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:57:27 GMT

In article <mcdonghj.722267519@unix2.tcd.ie> mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....) writes:
>What LP did you get a lyric sheet with Bela Lugosi lyrics on it??
>None of mine had it...
>

  The lyrics I got came as a big booklet in the Spirt CD. It had a discography
of all of their singles, a short history of the band and all of the lyrics.
Since it's a Japanese pressing everything is in Japanese, except they also 
added the lyrics in both languages. Thus, unfortunately, I haven't been able
to read anything that was included with the CD. For anyone who doesn't know 
Spirit is the Japanese equivalent of Volume I, Volume II, and Swing the
Heartache all in a 3 disc set. The lyrics are for all of the songs that appear
on any of the 3 discs.
-Daniel

-- 
AlienSexFiend*Bauhaus*Curve*DepecheMode*Erasure*FrontLineAssembly*Gruesome- *
*	Daniel Ouellette       | 	 "People need to be schocked"	    *
*   douellet@beach.csulb.edu   |		     -Me	   	    *
Twosome*HumanDrama*JesusJones*KMFDM*LordsOfAcid*MLwtThrillKillKult*NitzerEbb*
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From: gates@informatik.hu-berlin.de (M.Gates)
Subject: Re: Christian Death
Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:03:39 GMT

In article <BxqFJK.L3F@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ogre@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lestat) writes:
>I've had the _Only Theatre of Pain_ CD for quite a while now, and it is the
>only Xian Death album I own. I'm looking to get more. What about the stuff
>with Rozz? And Valor? Thanks...

GET _CATASTROPHE BALLET_. Now. Do not hesitate or ponder it. Buy it.
(it is not as hard and lacks the satanic imagery of OToP...but it is
gorgious...somewhat gentler, but deeper too) . 

If someone suggests Sex, Drugs & J.C....laugh at them.
There are better xian death albums to begin collecting.


		--margaret.
From: ufaustus@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mark Bergem)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: sigh, oh sigh; finding Gothic clothes in stores....
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:02:17 GMT

In <92321.105612MXR133@psuvm.psu.edu> MXR133@psuvm.psu.edu (min215ii) writes:

>RE: Gothic clothing

>The tern "gothic" doesn't only pertain to a type of music... the clothing refer
>ed to as gothic is simply clothing from "gothic" time periods. I few examples a
>re poet blowses, some "pirate" shirts, as some people call them, etc. There's A
>LOT more to the gothic attitude than just music. The music is only a fraction o
>f it.

Exactly!  Though I do not consider myself "gothic", I do like gothic music.
I hate the people who go around (usally in the 15-17 age group)wear dark clothes
and listening to CD, or Bauhus, and think that they are gothic.  There is so
much more to the movement than most people understand.  It one thing to like
Goth music, like I said I do because I can really relate to it, BUT I in no way
cansider myself gothic.  It thing it's a extremely over used and generic term.

		Well that's enough bitching for now,

			Dr Faustus

Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon")
Subject: Re: catalogs please? (Zillo)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:21:47 GMT

gates@informatik.hu-berlin.de  writes:
> In article <ufaustus.721608088@mcl> ufaustus@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mark Bergem) writes:
> >  it sucks.  Where are you from anyway, I far as I know Prop is only avilable
> >  in California, at least in Newsstands, (I saw the worst yesterday, an issue
> >  of Propaganda in Tower Records, ugh!) The questions still needs to be answered
> >  where are there cats on Goth stuff?
> >
> >		Dr Faustus
> 
> Actually, I found it for the first time in Northhampton, Mass.
> It is pretty damned easy to find *all over* the U.S...not just
> in California. The writing is admittedly affected (or perhaps
> affectatious?) and the interviews *are* occasionally infantile...
> but somehow it is just so...pretty. At least there is a unifying
> aesthetic concept...which most underground-goth mags really
> lack. 
> 
> I have yet to see it available in Germany, though.
> 
> 			--margaret
> 
> ************maybe this world is another planet"s hell...***********
> 				-aldous huxley
> 

It's available here in Charlottesville, Virginia, too, which
sort of surprised me because this is normally a pretty
conservative community that doesn't go for things like goth.  I
never saw it, though, in where I was from before (State
College, Pennsylvania).  What I'm wondering, because I haven't
actually picked up an issue yet, is the writing good enough to
make it worth the $4.50 cover price?  That seems sort of steep
for any magazine, let alone an independant.  I may pick up the
issue that's in the store now because it has a Christian Death
article, but if anyone has any opinions on if it is worth
bothering, let me know.
From: ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward Pak)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: SOME GIRLS..
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:43:02 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Is that available domestically yet?  And if it isn't, is it going to be?  

EDDIE
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From: eshin@ddsw1.mcs.com (Eshin-Fun)
Subject: Re: Tarot Card Meanings
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:54:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago IL
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>>ACPS7035@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca (Sean Edward Blenkhorn) writes:
: Greetings
: 
: What I would like to request is that any person that has a file containing
: all the meanings for Tarot Cards, to send me it.
: Or if they know where I could get such a copy, to please tell me.
: 
: I am looking for a file specifically for a file so that I can use them
: in a computized project that I and a friend are working on.
: 
: Thank you.<<

You probably have better response and better luck posting this on
alt.divination where there is a common interest in divinatory techniques.

\More than likely, you are apt to find there better versed in cartomancy
than in the speculative "magickal" group.

Eshin-Fun


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