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From: greenidd@CS.ColoState.EDU (danielle greenidge)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Coolest characters
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:30:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: yuma.Sep03.163013.12273
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department


My fave cool characters are Shadowcat & Nightcrawler.  They aren't
invincible & they like to use their noodle (ie brains) & all possible
resources.  They would rather discussion than kick *ss (ie Capt Britain)
and I think they are very friendly.

To go off on a tangent:  I would like to see one or both of them become
smittened with someone else.

Back to the main road:  Other characters that rapidly increasing on my
cool list are Ranma & his intended finacee (I forget her name right now...
still at work :(  ).  Their sense of humor is quite refreshing & the
chemistry between them reminds me of the former Clairemont/Davis Excalibur
run.



	--Danielle.... wishing the weekends were L-O-N-G-E-R.

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From: jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Destiny (was Re: San Diego Comic Con news
Date: 31 Aug 1992 18:01:45 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Dani Zweig (dani@netcom.com) writes:

>tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway):
>>purple robed figure in a recent Titans was supposed to be Destiny, but...
>
>So it was just one of your generic omniscient robed beings handcuffed
>to a book.  Just as I figured...

Kind of a meta-Constantine, eh?

------------------------------
                             |     I was the only one to hear Art and Val.
Jim Drew                     |     "You've been getting tested regularly?"
jrd@frame.com                | asked Art.
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       |     "I promised you, didn't I?" said Val. 
"Innocent, but not naive."   |     "And...?"
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    |     "Don't *worry,* Art.  I'm negative."
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  |     "Are you sure?"
{opinions: mine != frame's}  |     "Positive."
                             |		- Marc Lynbx, "For Art's Sake"

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From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Elseworld books(DC)
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:00:31 GMT

What Elseworld books are out there and how good are they?

Ones I know about:

Gothem by Gaslight-Batman vs Jack the Ripper, good story
?-Batman vs a 'Master of the World by H.G.Wells type', felt too much like the
1930's film 'Master of the World' with Batman instead of Flash Gordon could
have been much better.
Holy Terror-Batman vs The Church, never saw this one
Red Rain-Batman and Dracula, also missed this one but reviews here were not
favorable

Also any ideas on other Elseworld books coming out, heard about a 4 parter
involving Superman anything on a proposed releice date on this?

Comments are welcomee
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From: ia92@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Bad news:  Jane Oliver
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:50:05 GMT

Sorry to say that I have some bad news to pass along.  Jane J. Oliver, 
(Tales of Jerry), died on Monday of cancer.  She is survived by her
husband, Phil Hirsch.

Letters of condolences can be sent to:  511 Grandview Ave., 
  Sebastopol, CA 95472.

  - net.spy!  (bn510@cleveland.freenet.edu)

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From: lsmith@mega.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23
Organization: The Little Squids of the Poor 
Distribution: na 
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:38:05 GMT


In article <BtpnAB.7Cx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hmmm. . .) writes:
>dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>
>>The Silver Age is off to a great start.  Poor YM.
>
>>Was it necessary to tell him about his parents?
>
>I agree, can't wait to see where it goes.  The battle scene
>was a lot of fun and YMs 1950s attitudes should bring some interesting
>conflicts.

"Hey, we've done a lot of damage. Shouldn't we clean up?" (paraphrased.)

I always wonder how that worked.

>>This guy can really write.  I wonder if he's written anything
>>else worth reading. :-)
>
>Hmmm, I wonder . . . Didn't he do one of the Suicide Squid specials?

Sure. In fact there were three SSSs that he took part in. My favorite
is the Gaiman-Moore alternating word issue. There was also the Suicide
Squid crossover in Sandman, "Dreams of 1000 Catfish." 

(Better set off the terribly silly inside joke alarm.)  

BTW, did anyone get a badly printed issue? Almost the entire order of the
local store was miscut so that the tops and bottoms of panels were missing.
This issue seemed to be of lower quality production than the previous
issues of Miracleman. 
--
 Lance "Billy-Fish" Smith  | "Let me have players about me that are fat;
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  Slow-footed men and such as sleep o' nights;
   "A dead mouse has no    |  Yond' Henderson has a lean and speedy look; 
    entertainment value"   |  He steals too much: such players are dangerous." 
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Fish Police by Marvel:  BUY IT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:45:21 GMT

When I saw a copy of the Marvel run of Fish Police on the rack emblazoned with 
the words "TV's Fish Police!" I nearly gagged at the thought of a comic being 
made off that horrid parody of an originally good book.  But, given my quotient
of morbid curiosity, I looked inside...and was pleasantly surprised to see that
they were reprinting the original run!  Now, I already have the whole story, so
I have no need to buy it, but I would recommend this title to anyone out there 
who likes a good independent comic but lacks access to a shop that sells them.
Fish Police is a 26 issue story, and is quite good.  So don't be deceived by 
the big "M" in the upper left hand corner, this is a good comic.
     Dave Van Domelen, "I'm drowning!  What a stupid way for an eel to die!"
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From: wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William Shakespeare)
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:32:04 GMT

I wonder about that miracle child that shape changes.  He seems to be using
the Qys body wardrobe, but all of his forms have that tinker-bell force
field.  Shouldn't he lose his miracle powers when in non-human form?  He
could fly with those bat wings, of course, but no force-field.  Or is he
using an innate power to actually change shape (all his shapes have the same
color scheme as him)?

MM doesn't have his powers as Moran, so why should that kid have his powers
as a big bat or a Galactus rip-off?  I thought the Qys didn't have bodies with
forcefields in their wardrobe.  See the KM versus MM and the warpsmith battle.

Not that it matters.  I just hate inconsistancies.

ps.  Oh, yeah, YM should want to right wrongs, not write them.  Bah.
-- 
William ("Shakespeare") Gulstad          /  So where are the C.S. babes?
wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu                /  Joni Mitchell for President!
I vote, so I can complain!               /  Did you vote?  Then don't complain!
Republican is the opposite of democracy! /  Tune in, drop out, log on.
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Marvel Bashing, if you please!
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:26:47 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <9209012149.AA04420@lynx.frame.com>, jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew) writes:
> "wReam" (sl859@cc.usu.edu) writes:
> 
>>Marvel cannot be blamed for the direction the comic book industry is taking.
> 
> On the contrary, if your company's output is the leader in the industry, being
> up to twice as much (in total dollar "value") as your nearest competitor, then
> any perceived direction that the comics industry takes as whole *must* include
> you, and almost certainly includes you as a leader, rather than a follower.
> You most certainly can be blamed for the direction (although perhaps not solely
> you).
	Hey, Perhaps you can blame them a bit, but remember who buys the stuff.
I still  insist that if you get the majority of comic buyers to boycott some-
direction they will do pretty much anything to get you back!
	Obviously, though they do write the stories and pass them off and 
comercialize the HECK out of everything... But so would anyone who wants to
sell something!
							wReam...
P.S.  Look for a new superhero video game next year!  Based off of the Comic
Elementis, by wReam-a-Rang Comics!  It'll be a classic comic book adventure!
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From: dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO)
Subject: Deathstroke Dies in #16 ?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:02:43 GMT


I just picked up Team Titans #2, and on the cover, it says that 
Deathstroke is going to die in #16 !?

Any clues as to what's happening?

May thy fortunes go with thee.

Darren				 dyko@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au 
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From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23
Date: 3 Sep 1992 14:35:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, wesselak@suna0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak) says:

>For that matter, I always wondered why MM gave YM his human body back at all.
>MM has sworn never to use his again; why would he assume that YM would want
>his?  Perhaps he feels that taking it away would worsen the shock of the new
>world on YM; his human body is his psychological escape device.

Agreed.  And on the topic of bodies...

A little thing that I would have done, as an inferior
 writer, is to have Mors completely separate MM and Moran.
 MM is free of his Achilles heel, and Moran can go back to
 Liz.  Net effect: two people + a god would all be happier.  
 I'm sure others have had this idea.  Has anyone asked NG
 about it?

>Oh, now that I've thought about it, I'd bet that Dennis Archer is aware of the
>'abraxis' words.  But why was he not allowed to be restored when Gargunza was?
>Too much of a risk having both of them alive again?  Or perhaps MM has devel-
>oped some amount of affection or respect for Gargunza?

Of course MM has affection for Gargunza -- he's MMs father.
 Also, Mors is quite right that a kinder gentler Gargunza
 would present an amazing boon to the Earth + the universe.  
 The man's a genius.  He could probably refertilize the Qys.

Dennis Archer was merely an ordinary man.  There's no need
 to revive him.  
-- 
Francis A. Uy			now a Bawlmorean, hon.
Program Director, WUMD		ISO part time job to pay the rent.
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From: Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Who gets the most cre
X-To: CONTY III
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:39:00 GMT

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III) writes:

CI>- The SANDMAN issue pencilled by Coleen Doran.  George Pratt (better known
CI>  for his painted art) was the inker.  Both are very good, but they have
CI>  very different art-styles.  The result: bad-looking art.

Although it's true that Doran and Pratt have different art styles, the
"bad -looking art" in question wasn't due to a conflinct in style - it
was due to the fact that Pratt took about 2 rushed days to ink the whole
issue.

Greg
ecurrent@zooid.guild.org
sizone!ecurrent@ee.ryerson.ca

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From: danl@next05pg2.wam.umd.edu (Daniel Patrick Langsdale)
Subject: Re: Dream's recent lover 
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:24:24 GMT

In article <w2myzw+@rpi.edu> wainwl@aix.rpi.edu (Lou P. Wainwright)  
writes:
> Finally, Neil really seemed to emphasize the fact that her name wouldn't  
be 
> spoken.  Notice how out of the way he goes to avoid it.  I can't think  
of any
> good reason for all of them to avoid mentioning her name.  

Well, I think I remember sometihing about an old gamblers' superstition  
about a certain Lady who would be kind to them and bring them...well, you  
know...as long as they do not mention her name, for as soon as you do, she  
is sure to forsake you.  Possibly this is Dream's recent lover?

	-Dan'L
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From: dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO)
Subject: What do these people do ..... ?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:03:00 GMT


Would a kind soul out there in netland kindly enlighten me as to 
what the following terms mean? One can immediately recognize 
these as the team on a comic....

	1) Writer

	2) Penciller

	3) Inker

	4) Letterer

	5) Colorist


Some, I agree, are painfully obvious, but they do seem to overlap....

Thanx.

May thy fortunes go with thee.

Darren				 dyko@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au 
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"   :==I============>	  |     the computer, there are at least two      "
"      I  Excalibur       |     human errors, one of which is the error   "
"                         |     blaming the computer."     Gibb's Law     "
"                         |                                               "
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From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Crying Freeman:Part Four #6
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:36:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Well, I saw this as having been released by Valiant last Friday, but I have yet
to go to the store for last weeks stuff.  This title just piqued my curiosity
when I saw it because I've never heard of it before, & I've been think I collect
all but two Valiant titles.  Anyone know what this thing is about?



Chris
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From: carterk@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Krypton's moons?
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Distribution: usa
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:30:21 PST

In article <1992Aug25.032902.11654@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, berninge@iron.ecn.purdue.edu (James A Berninger) writes:
> Earlier today I was struck by the fact that I have completely
> forgotten the names of Krypton's two moons.  The most recent Who's
> Who made no mention, and all of my sources are at my father's house.
> This is one of those things that keep you up at night for no
> particular reason...  :-)
> 
> Does anyone remember the names of Krypton's two moons?
> 
> Jim Berninger                   ______ "This is no 'Whoops!'  This is
> B0 w- c- g k s- e r- p          \    /  an 'Aaaaaaaauuuuuggggghhhh!'"
> berninge@cn.ecn.purdue.edu       \  /   - Harvey ("Arnold") Fierstein
> Green Lantern Fan, Extraordinaire \/      "Torch Song Trilogy"

According to the 1981 "Superman presents the Krypton Chronicles" miniseries
(the first miniseries ever, like that did anything for it's value) the two
moons of Krypton are identified as:

Wegthor, which was destroyed by Jax-Ur, and had a breathable atmosphere first
discovered by Superman's ancestor Sul-El.

and Mithen, which was hurled into a solar orbit when Krypton exploded.

Sigh. It's nice to know someone cares about the important things.

-----
Douglass Barre - carterk@cgsvax.claremont.edu
"The entire civilization of Krypton was started by Superman's family, so how
come nobody listened to his father?" -- The Voice of Reason
From: ack@coos.dartmouth.edu (Andy J. Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman DYN and more Dream's recent lover
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:54:27 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

csroach@eng.clemson.edu (Shane Roach) writes:
>Reading this post reminded me of something I noticed while reading Sandman #9
>(or a number close to that), "The Sound of Her Wings."  In the scene in which
>Dream and Death are sitting in front of an apartment building, the building
>in the background is a mirror-image of the one on the cover of Led Zeppelin's
>"Physical Graffiti" album.  I haven't noticed any other occurrences like this,
>but do any of you know of other examples where the artists got lazy with the
>background?

Don't rule out the possibility that Gaiman photographed Washington Square Park
in the Village in NYC (where that issue takes place) for the artist to use and
it just so happens that a photograph/drawing was also used by LedZep for that
album. It's a pretty famous area so it doesn't shock me that it has appeared
in other places...

-A
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: How much would you pay for a dead Gaiman? (was: Gaiman's and DC's plans)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:58:37 GMT
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/

In <177lj2INN5uj@agate.berkeley.edu> joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung) writes:

>Not to be a morbid jerk or anything, what happens if Gaiman
>dies before ending Sandman?  

Shirley MacLaine will channel the remaining storyline.

Or maybe Elvis.

                           "YES!  IT'S YOUR VERY OWN **CALL FROM AL**!  AND
                            YOU'RE STUCK!"
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From: jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W "GrimJim" Lai)
Subject: Re: Gaiman's and DC's plans
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:16:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.041051.681@lokkur.dexter.mi.us> scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes:
>Nonsense, it's got to be a Delirium chess set -- no two pieces alike in
>shape or color (not even from moment to moment), no instructions, and
>you're guaranteed to always be at least one piece short.

No, it's the Delirium deck of cards.  Tradition, sir, tradition!
From: 11telliott@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Zarathustra)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: How to stop buying the Legion?
Date: 30 Aug 92 04:24:38 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

I'm in this dilemma- Help me, anyone?

The Legion sucks. How can I stop buying the title, even though it sucks? Can
anyone rationalize this, so I can finally stop buying the title? A little bit
of history- I have been buying the title since August of 1974, to now, even
thru the worst years, namely the Gerry Conway issue, as thru the best, the
early Paul Levitz years and Cary Bates years. I also have a complete run of the
Legion, save for Adventure #247. Many thanks, and pax,
-- 

Todd Elliott
11TELLIOTT@GALLUJ (Bitnet)
11TELLIO@GALLUX.GALLAUDET.EDU (Internet)
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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: Sandspawn and Watchspawns
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 18:26:04 GMT

In article <mumble> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:

>(from Internal Correspondence, the Capital City trade journal)
>
>Image signs Moore, Veitch, and Bissette
>
>Image Comics has scored a major coup by signing Alan Moore, Rick Veitch, and
>Steve Bissette to produce a mini-series with a superhero them entitled "1963".
>"1963" consists of six books, each representing a different title published
>by an imaginary American comic company in 1963.  The six-issue miniseries will
>be followed by an annual.

Well, thank God he's not actually going to be writing for Spawn or any
of the other Image titles.  This I can live with (may even have to buy
it...we'll see.)

>In other news, Bob Wayne of DC Comics confirmed that an agreement was 
>reached to create a crossover linking the DC multiverse with the Image universe.
>
>I'm really scared.  How about you?

Sigh.  What the heck is DC's problem, to be running so scared of the
Image guys that they have to arrange a crossover this early, on top of
the fact that they're apparently going to be redesigning their entire
line to be more like Marvel/Image (gak).

And I really hope that the crossover isn't going to be "linking" the
DC and Image universes....  I could live with something like the
old DC/Marvel crossovers where they're not part of any continuity,
but if they link the two universes...brrr!


-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."
From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Marsume Sirow
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:52:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu2nB2.K05
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

megazone@starbird.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:

>In article <Bu0JtK.6It@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer) writes:
>>    AS a big fan of Marsume Shirow(appleseed, Dominion,Black Magic) I
>>was thrilled when I saw something about a book of his work
>>coming out in the month of August. Well....August is over,
>>has anyone seen this? It was priced in the 30-40$ range so it wasn't
>>a regular comic.
>
>Masume Shirow's Intron Dept is do out from Dark Horse. It is a collection of
>his artwork. I believe the price is $39.95. It's a hardcover book.
>
    Yes, thank for the imformation. BTW I unsubscribed from Rec.arts.manga
long ago...Couldn't stand the swollen egos.

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Dvandom reads too many comics
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:06:51 GMT

Actually, I get alot of indies, but they tend to come out as often as the Tick 
(yes, Tick is one of the ones I get), or die after only a few issues.
     Dave Van Domelen, Captain Britain and the rest of the Braddock family are 
NOT mutants no matter how often Psylocke is called one by ignorant crossover 
shots, so I'll talk about them on r.a.c.m. if I *feel* like it.  Hmph. }->