From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: Nagorno-Karabakh & Armenians versus Texas, California & Latinos
Summary: To blame the victims 
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:46:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.060610.16054@mail.cornell.edu> Mark Lipsits <ml12@cornell
.edu wrote:

[ML] I've been seriously flamed for posting a follow-up article to the
[ML] President Ter-Petrossian letter.  I am sure the remark was arrogant, but
[ML] I have perfect reasons for it.  
[ML]    I am absolutely convinced that the Karabach affair was started by
[ML] Armenians.  No, I am not talking about Armenians in general.  It would be
[ML] very dumb to assume that your average working man, who have enough
[ML] domestic worries would all of the sudden go out on the streets and demand
[ML] that Karabach is annexed to Armenia ASAP.   No, here I am speaking about
[ML] Armenian leaders.  The Karabach conflict was nothing more than a
[ML] political intrigue.  And anyone would agree with me that whoever were the
[ML] people who started this were smart enough to be able to predict the
[ML] cosequences.  So, weren't the Armenians who lived in Azerbaijan virtually
[ML] sacrificed?  And in whose interests?  In the interests of those who died
[ML] in that pointless war?  Or in the interests of those who lack the food
[ML] and medication now?  And then Mr. Davidian, (who doesn't even have enough
[ML] intelligence to conduct a discussion without personally insulting his
[ML] opponent with obscenities) is trying to tell me that it was done in the
[ML] interests of the enire nation!  And don't give me that historical or
[ML] statistical b.s. !  I have heard it from all the angles.  You might as
[ML] well demand the restoration of Rech Pospolitaya, or better yet, why don't
[ML] we give some of the parts of the Texas or California heavily populated by
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[ML] Latinos back to Mexico.  And don't tell me about the genocide.  First, it
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[ML] is very questionable against whom the genocide took place, and second,
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[ML] and most important is that it all is nothing but an international
[ML] vendetta!  And because of people like you, Mr. Davidian & Co. this
[ML] vendetta will not end soon.  

Well, Mr. Lipsits, using your logic the land of Israel shouldn't exist and the
Law of Return is invalid! 

But yes, there is a difference between the Jewish Law of Return and the 
Armenians of Nagorno-Karabagh...the Armenians of Karabagh have lived on those
lands continuously for 3,000 years and the Azeris are attempting to de-populate
the land, as were the Jews from Palestine. What you would have us believe is 
that because California & Texas were taken from the Spanish who took it from 
Native Americans, Armenians can be taken away from Karabagh! 

And your remark questioning the Turkish genocide of the Armenians can also be
explained by your illogic. You are simply an anti-Armenian!

An international vendetta...indeed! You insult the Armenian people and those
murdered, so today Turkish fascists can cry "Turkey for the Turks", ["Turkiye
Turklerindir"] as is printed on the caption of Turkey's leading daily 
newspaper, _Hurriyet_, just under the picture of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk!
 
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