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From: ali@utrcv1 (ALI BABA)
Subject: Re: Hazrateh Zainab as an experimental feezeezeest
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:25:35 GMT

In article <5OCT199216135150@reg.triumf.ca>, mahin@reg.triumf.ca writes...
>
>>Let me conclude by asking 'how do we KNOW for sure that matter exists?'
>>                                     ^^^^
>
>Let's ask Seyyed.  He knows EVERYTHING. Hey, Seyyed,...
>                                                   [ (c) Life cereal ]
>
>and here's a fun experiment for Seyyed joon exclusively.  Put a cup of
>water in the microwave for a few minutes, open the door and drop a grain of
>sugar in it. *vicious laugh* Then read your Koran and try to explain the
>results.  Btw, have a first aid kit handy.:-)
>
>Good Luck,
>
>Hazrateh Zainab
>
>
>>Same regards,
>>Hooshyar F. Naraghi
>>bavafa@netcom.com
>>(415) 322-8056
>>

Dear Mahin;
Baba dast khosh
If the shah was still in power and Shahreh know was still open in Iran, you had
All the knowledge and qualification for becoming khonoomeh bozorgeh. Well don't
get disappointed, as a good old Iranian expression says "khoda kaz zeh hekmat
bebandat dari ze rahmat goshayed dareh digari", try Turky or Amoo's Ghahvah
Khoneh.
Btw, If you decide to try Turky you definitely need first aid kit for the
first year, but it's not recommended for Amoo's Ghahvah khoneh since the
people are much friendlier and usualy supply their own first aid kit which
consist of (aaftabeh, baadkoneke, pashah koshe and roghaneh kharcheck)

Good luck, and try to take it easy for the first month.

                    ************************************************
                    * ALI BABA, not a legend, but the shining      *
                    *       star of the 1996 olmpic                *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: Khomainie's Tomb Exploded
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:00:15 GMT

hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem) writes:
>> 
>> It is not really an attempt to kill an already dead akhound
>> but, at this present moment, such acts shows the level of
>> hatred towards the symbol of ugliness and filth in our country.
>> 
>> Khomeini, and now his corrupt akhounds, have no respect for
>> human rights and democratic values. They have brought much
>> misery, destruction, and bloodshed to our people. Showing
>> hatred and anger towards them is like showing hatred to all
>> symbols of ugliness. And what better symbol of abhorrent and
>> ugliness than Khomeini's tomb? If there was any better way
>> of showing your dissatisfaction, I'd vote for it, but with
>> akhounds, this is the most effective way. That's the only
>> way they understand it.
>> 
>> I called Iran; my relatives reacted as if another revolution
>> had taken place. That's how much ordinary people hate the
>> regime and its symbols.
>> 

>If this bombing were not done by Mojahedin terrorists you might well
>claim that this was a "show of hatred" by "ordinary people". Of course
>you will proclaim to the world that this was not an act of terrorism by
>a politically motivated group but rather an expression of disgust by the
>common people. You Mojahedin are such honest people! NOT!

>How much blood was shed by the Mojahedin in this bombing in order to
>protest IR bloodshed?

>Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)

Here are several items for you, Brad:

* First, you broke the code: it is "Monafeqin" not "Mojahedin."
  You may make akhound upset if you break codes.

* The uses of "terrorism" against the Mojahedin backfires: first the
  Mojahedin have received worldwide recognition for being a
  liberation movement. Repeating Shah's and now Khomeini regime's
  labels only shows your mentality. Second, as you know well,
  "terrorism" has now become an alias for the Khomeini regime. By
  bringing up the subject you'll do a disservice to the akhounds.

* Why is that you refer to the explosion of the Khomeini's tomb
  as "terrorism" but you never condemn the mass executions in
  Iran or the daily terrorism againt the Iranian women, or the
  regime's hand in murdering Iranian dissidents abroad?

* And finally, as the Iranian proverb says, ``in as natAyeje
  sahar ast; bAsh tA sobhe dolatat bedamad.'' The people will do
  to the akhounds 100 times more than what they did to the Shah.
  During the 1979 revolution, the people set banks, cinemas, etc.
  afire; this time they may set Khomeini's majlis, all komitehs,
  all terrorist pasdar stations, and the entire "hoze jahlieh Qom"
  afire. Just wait a little while, Brad.

Be honest and tell us Brad, why is that you keep rushing to the
defense of the backward, terrorist regime? Why is that the
explosion in Khomeini's tomb- the person who has been hated by
the world- makes you so furious?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Konar, Khuzistan and a quiz
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:55:56 MST
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In article <BvrKGt.5yE@encore.com>, samiri@encore.com (Soheila Amiri) writes:
> suzi@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Suzan Ehdaie) writes:
> 
>     [...Stuff deleted...(with permission from Soheila KhAnoom of course :) ]
>
> Now for the avid konAr lovers, there is a variety of konar which grows
> wild in the BakhtiAree mountains.  It is called "ree-me-leek" in BakhtiAri
> dialect and is a short, thorny shrub with a lot of small blue-berry like
> red fruits.  If you haven't tasted that fruit, you don't know what
> you're missing.  They bear fruit in spring, around new year just like
> the konar trees.  Next time you are driving from AhwAz say to Masjed-
> SoleymAn or Shushtar, stop by along side the road.  There are a zillion
> of the shrubs all over the place.  But I'd have to agree with our Dezfully
> friends.  Shushtar and Dezfull are the Konar capitals of the wrold...
> Can't beat that!!
>

Aaaaghhhh... You just made my heart bleed!!!  I loved those shrubs... As
a kid right after school, a group of us would attack these short, thorny shrub
tree and tried to get as much as we could... You should see the little tinny
sharp thorns all over our hands, fingers and etc... I remember once i walked
home bleeding badly and my momAn smacked me semi-hardly in the back of the head
for bleeding my hands and toring my shirt (to get out of the trees :) but then
she sat by me and took all the thorns out... Took her a good hour or so to 
finish... I had to give up half of my ``Lam leghs'' (that's how it's said in
our dialect :) to her...!!!  She enjoyed and loved every single of them...  You
could tell that from her eyes... *smile*

> Soheila (missing getting hit in the head by the stones thrown to the konar
> 	 tree..) Sigh.... Sigh....

Heheheh... Are you sure you weren't hit by me by any chance...?  *grin*
I used to varcharid (climb) up the Konar trees wherever i would see them...
We had 4 of them in our house... Too bad they are not there anymore!  Our house
was hit by 4 surface-to-surface missiles during the war...

Thank you for refreshing the memories and enlightening the day, dear Soheila. :)

Best wishes...

Ali...
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From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khuzestan
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:48:13 GMT
 <1992Oct8.023140.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> <ldjplgINNarh@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
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In article <ldjplgINNarh@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
> In article <1992Oct8.023140.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...) writes:
> 

Shahrokh AghA salam... And hope all is well...

You did great coming up with the definitions... But a couple of them needed
to be slightly corrected... :)

> oolaa - sort of like oonjaa i think
> eelaa - opposite of oolaa

Oolaa means ``Un trAff'' [ Un (that) trAff (side, corner, location)]...

> 
> mi -	moo?  i think shooshtarees also use mel.

Yeap, its moo...  :)

> 
> mooflangi - bozo?  goofball?  sort of like fogor in shooshtari?
> 

heheheh... Didn't think anyone could get this one!  You should pad yourself in
the back... :)

> 
> harrysa - isnt that the first level of a zeer zameen?
> 
Nope...! Harrysa means: Haleem with sarSheer on top! :) Similar to Oat meal! :)

> kaneesaa - ?

It's that special little room on the roof (poosteh bAnn) in the house.

> kelek - ?

Angusht... Finger...
 
>    peteghejghej	(ghe, pronounced as 'r' in french, j as j in jaapon) 

Hahahaha! I know it but can't come up with the word for it!  :)  I know it has
to do with pett (nose)... :)

>    gel-geraat

Means: I wish that mud gets you!!! :)  Similar to ``khAk barr sArr''

>    azye-geraat

Means: I hope you get a disease!  Also means: Have you gotten a disease (as in
become crazy or lost your mind or don't understand)... This is said when one is
very frustrated with the person(s) dealing with...  :)  In other words, ``mArAz-
begeeri''... (these terms are too funny to translate, you do realize that?)  :)

>    teer-fereng

This is an interesting item made by the kids... A ``V'' shape piece of wood is
found, then elastic substances (rubber, etc.) are tighten on both edges of the
V - Wood... stones, etc. are used as ``teers''! :)   This is called: Teer-KamAn.

Those were good ones, Shahrokh...  I'll come up with a few more later... In the
mean time,

Best wishes...

Ali...
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In Article 9377 in soc.culture.iranian siamak@sltsvr.ljo.dec.com (Parviz Siamak) writes:


******************************************************************************

These are visa suggestions for Parviz's brother.  Please skip to the next message
if not interested.
******************************************************************************

Salam,

>I really need some answers, ideas, suggestions on "How my brother can come
>to US to study?"

>I am a PM of US and can afford to support him. He has high school diploma and
>young, has finished army service (lost two small fingers of left foot over a
>mine.), and has couple of years of machine shop experience ( great in hydraulic
>press building).

>He has asked me how he can come and study here. I haven't been able to find
>ways (if there are any ?).

Dear Agha Parviz,

If he wants to come here with a green card, either you need to be a US 
citizen, or at least one of your parents needs to have a green card.  This
process will take a substantial amount of time, anyway, especially if
he is applying from outsided the U.S. 

If he is going to go to school anyway, perhaps a better way is for him
to apply for an F-1 (student visa) from a third country, like somewhere
in Europe.  For this, the main things he needs are an admission from a
university or a college in the U.S., proof of financial support, which
could be either proof of existing funds back home or her in the U.S., and
since you are willing to support him, and affidavit of support from you is
definitely helpful.  But one thing that is very important is that he show 
intention to go back to Iran, since the F1 is a non-immigrant visa, and 
technically, someone who has intention of immigrating to the US is not
eligible for a non-immigrant visa.  Ways to show he wants to go back to Iran
are perhaps having property there, any family, e.g. parents, spouse, kids,
etc., and one thing which would be very helpful would be a job offer in
advance from an Iranian employer.  The nice thing is that he is done with
military service, so he can argue that that will not be a factor keeping
him from going back to Iran, i.e. he should really bring a certified translation
of his "pAyAn-e-khedmat" documents.  When applying for visa he can say that
I would like to go back to Iran when I finish, and there is a lot of need for
educated people there right now.

He should translate all his documents before coming out of Iran, and of course
you need to try to apprach the local colleges and universities in your area
regarding admission requirements.  Probably the biggest obstacle for this
will be that he needs to take TOEFL.  I don't know if they hold it in Iran,
but I remember people used to go out to Turkey or somewhere to take it.
Good luck with everything, and let us know how everything goes!


May your yoghurt turn out sweet,


Agha Javad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Monty Hall Paradox (was Re: Physics-1A Question)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:22:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.211840.11410@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:

> => ...  The basis to my solution is that Monty Hall knows which box
> => contains the prize and when he can open either of two boxes without
> => exposing the prize, he chooses between them at random ...

kalak zadi nAgholA !!! I supposed that everything is done randomly! Nobody
said that the boxes are oppened according to a particular strategy.

Seyyed.

p.s. you are late mack jAn, Reza Modarres gave a similar explanation before you!
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Physics-1A Question
Date: 14 Oct 1992 00:40:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

wow seyed, i didnt know i had created so much work for
you!

[a bunch of non-puzzles synthesized to coverup the obvious
 deleted ]

>Problem #2:
>Monty knows which box contains the prize. He PROMISES to open only the
>box (from the remaining two) which he knows is empty. After opening the
>box (which he doesn't need to open, because he already have promised to
>open the empty box), in other words, after telling you which box from
>the remaining two is for sure empty, he asks whether you want to switch.
>Solution: In this case the probabilities are 1/3 to 2/3, so you better
					      ~~~~~~~~~~
so you finally go it?  im glad.  i am most impressed by your
comical expansion of a clear, three line puzzle, into a full
paragraph with all the obvious ornamentations (he 'promises to
allaaaah to open only...', daaaaa) to cover up your tracks.

>Find yourself a job in the circus, 
 
i already do!  its called the sci circus, and making you jump thru
hoops is my rather popular act.

>or in Hollywood. You have a much better chance there.
       
hollywood?  cooool!  thats even better!  maybe i can produce a talk
show like oprah winfrey, with titles like: 
'insecure-monster-egoed-psychedelic-self-righteous-adolescent-religious-
fundamentalists  who like to flaunt their male genitalia on 
computer networks', with you, babak and ali baba as my premier 
guests.

ps tell me, how does it reaaally feel to have broadcasted your
idealogies (if one could call them that!) for over a year to thousands
of people on this network, and find out that your only subscribers to
date include mr babak sehari and mr ali baba?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Ahoora joon)
Subject: Re: javAd Agha admonishes
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:00:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.164920.24843@dbu.edu> arfad@dbu.edu () writes:
>-----------
>
>In article seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>
>|> 2) You implicitely accept that insulting the religious believes of more than
>|>    1 billion people needs some kind of punishment. Our difference is that you
>|>    say that it shouldn't be death.
>|>
>
>
>You have been insulting God and Islam almost everyday in the past few
>weeks.  So what should your punishment be my dear so call 'Seyyed' .
>
>
>Stop insulting God,  his temper is getting shorter!!!
>
>
Lightining strike aval panj toman. :)




-- 
ahriman
(aka Lucifer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: Use of Foul Language
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:45:53 GMT


>I don't intend to start flames, but there seems to be a new trend 
>in our newsgroup.

>Reading the recent postings in response to Mahin, Naghmeh and some other 
>female readers of this newsgroup, I was just wondering why we always attack 
>their personal lives. 

>Let me make one thing clear. I don't know any of the aforementioned people
>in person. I do not support most of their arguments. Nevertheless I found it
>quite disgusting to suggest that somebody's writtings are a result of 
>that person's sexual problems. Even if that's true, it is true for both sexes.

Ziba Khanoom:

Two factors. (1) People who use foul language are the one who ran out of
logic and cannot explain their beliefs. (2) It is still even outside
Iran, men cannot see our women get involve in our society.  They still
want to see women to live at home and cook for them and take care of
kids.  That is how they grew up and cannot change their mentality and attitude.

Unfortunately, we have learned that those who agree with our beliefs are
our friends and those who disagree with us are our enemy.  We don't even
want to listen to them.  I don't see why some of us cannot talk to each
other with a polite language.  Is it going to cost us anything, or
perhaps does your so called "class" is going to be damaged.

Wake up and smell the coffee.  Read some other material beside all those
Physics, math, biology books and articles.  Try to get some "social
understanding".  You guys keep talking about the fact that you are
highly educated.  What kind of education without a good understanding
about your environment and interaction with people living in your
society.  Read some other books, articles, ....  Do some intellectual
talks and discussion sometimes
                                                                        
        ^^^^^^^^^^
rather than making rumors, gossips, B.S. talks, and slandering about others.  

I hope, people don't get offended from what I said but please spend some
time to think about this.

Regards

Zamie
From: marand@eagle.wpd.sgi.com (Najmeh Marand)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Shahreh Farang
Date: 8 Oct 1992 20:19:07 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
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Keywords: shahr shahreh farangeh, az hameh rangeh

In article <amoojoon.148@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh>,
amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed) writes:
> In article <qorv36c@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> marand@eagle.wpd.sgi.com 
> (Najmeh Marand) writes:
> 
> Najmeh khAnom jAn,
> 
> ........   . I thought I gave enough warnings about the contents
> of my posting in the beginning; You have been around long enough  
> that amoo has no personal "khosoomat" with anybody; firend or foe 
> receive the same share of attention from our ghahveh khooneh. Nevertheless,
> if your feelings are still hurt my most sincere apologies to you and to 
> those whose names were used in the posting.
> 
> amoo 

Yes I have been around long enough.  I did not, anywhere in my posting,
say / intend/ imply that amoo had some kind of personal "khosoomat"!!
I realized the posting was supposed to be "Entertainment" and I
appreciated it as such.  I also, however, found quite a bit of truth
in it.  (As we all know,) "a lot" can be "communicated via" and/or
"inferred from" humor / entertainment / poetry / songs / jokes / etc...

No bad feelings.

Cheers,
Najmeh
From: ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Iran, Nukes, and decedent leaders!
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:27:11 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


    On CNN Headline News broadcast of 7:00 GMT (today), there was some 
allegations that Iran is conducting negotiations with Kazakhistan to buy
nuclear weapons. According to them, Iran is taking advantage of US government's
preoccupation with presidential elections.

    They added that this information has been given to US by a decedent
leader last week.

    Since they didn't give the name of that 'decedent leader', we have to
conduct a talent test for netters to find out who has been the good boy. But
for those of you who are not that familiar with this kind of relationship
between ex-Iranian decedents and US, there's a tip. Refer to my previous
article, posted just before this one, to find out the answer.

   In a time that George Bush is starving to find some international issue to
boost his standing in pools, the only thing he is talking about these days, and
in a time that old Colonialism and new Imperialism are making new crises in
Persian Gulf (Iranian Islands and UAE story), directly or indirectly by their
puppets (like H. B. Rafsanjani in this net), I wonder how some people can forget
everything, even their parents and relatives living in Iran, and try to provoke
USA to act against Iran, while they surely know that the action against Iran
would certainly be harder than what US and its allies did to Iraqi people. How
far these guys are ready to go to convince US to put them in power? And how
far their fabrications will go in this way? 

   "Fa'ataberou ya oli-l-absar" Holy Quran. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Persian Spell Check.
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:16:33 GMT

---
Many times I was going to translate some technical article and send it
to Iran to be published in Radio Electronic and Danishmand; nevertheless,
being out of Iran for a long time, a spell check is required.  I also found
out many other people are in the same situation.  Therefore, I decided to
make a spell check for Intext and make it free ware, so everybody could
use it, as well.  However, this is a big project and I need many people
(120 people) to divide the dictionary among them, so each one type only
a few pages.  This is a great opportunity to put our differences aside
and do something for our country.  

To thank people who participate in this project, each person's name will
appear on the screen before running this spell checker, from Intext.  The
dictionary could be used to develop spell check for  other programs like
Latex, and Area letter on.

Let us show that we all our differences, we still can cooperate with each other
and accomplish something useful.  If we do not help ourselves, nobody else
will.

If you are interested send me an email with your email address. 

                 With highest regards,
                      Babak   Sehari.
P.S.  I encourage all my previous opponents to get involve in this project,
as well.    There is room for everybody.

                    


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