HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Atari STFM for sale
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 22 Aug 92 09:52:18 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
> > > Damnnit, here's another! Does nz.forsale really exist, or is it just more
> > > status lossage?
> I *am* my sysadmin. That message that I quoted in nz.general appeared in my
> junk directory, with a newsgroups line of "nz.forsale". I don't believe this
> newsgroup actually exists, particularly as I've only seen articles from
> Status users in it.[1]

Here's the nz groups mentioned in the latest checkgroups -- I think these
are fairly definitive:

nz.archives		Announcements of available software.
nz.arts			Discussion on the Arts.
nz.comp			Computing and computers.
nz.general		General information, announcements, etc
nz.molbio		Molecular Biology
nz.netstatus		Status of local & international net links
nz.rec			Recreation.
nz.soc			Social issues.
nz.soc.green		Environmental issues.
nz.wanted		Requests for sources, information, ...

Hmmm.  I see no nz.forsale here.  I don't ever recall anyone creating it 
formally either.  

If Jon or anyone else wants to go through a CFD/CFV for it, they're welcome 
to.  Until then, I suggest that anyone with an nz.forsale in their sys file
should remove it, as it's carried by practically nobody.

--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
				Vote MMP!
From: ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Peter Ingham)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Local call charging announcement on Thursday?
Followup-To: nz.general
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz
Organization: 
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:29:12 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Site

In article <To2ePB1w165w@sideways.welly.gen.nz> Pat Cain <patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz> writes:
> 
> Given that Telecom have been talking about introducing local call
> charging for some time and have just spend $10 million on two NEC
> supercomputers for "monitoring" call patterns .. will this be the

They were sold by NCR, and are "significantly parallel" systems.  They are not 
"supercomputer" class and I cannot bring myself to call them "massively parallel" 
as they are only 24 CPU's apiece.

Cheers

    Peter S. Ingham              ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz
    Lower Hutt,  New Zealand     3:771/220.5
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: Frank Sayre <sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu>
Subject: Re: Ten Commandments of computers
Organization: Vanderbilt University Computer Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:22:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug7.220511.3881@actrix.gen.nz> Paul Gillingwater,
paul@actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <jbickers.0cza@templar.actrix.gen.nz>
jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz 
>(John Bickers) writes:
>> > As one of its first official acts, the Computer Ethics Institute has 
>> > released what it calls the Ten Commandments of Computer Ethics. They
are:
>> 
>>     So who are they, and why are they doing such a pratty thing?
>
>Some US based group of DP professionals who see a need to establish some
>ethics in the computer business.  

Do you recall the name of the group?

Also, and totally unrelated, I am trying to get in touch with someone
at the University of Otago. Can anyone give me the correct node name,
assuming there is one?

Thanks in advance.
==============================================================
Frank C. Sayre          "When I die, throw me to the wolves.  
Vanderbilt Univ Comp Center        I'm used to it." Diogenes the Cynic
sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Creation of news groups (was Re: Atari STFM for sale)
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 23 Aug 92 05:33:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington) writes:
> > Mind you, so far the only nz group that has actually passed any kind of vote
> > so far has been nz.alex following said outcry (and yes, I was around then).  

> So where is it?

That, my dear Nathan, is precisely my point.

--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
				Vote MMP!
From: ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Local call charging announcement on Thursday?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 11:10:29   Y
Organization: Naos - Inside the Z80

mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:

   [Telecom increases prices]
> Telephone rentals are going up, and also some (all?) toll calls from card

Yup.  I think the confusion came from the fact that most people don't
think of the telephone (physical unit) as a separate rental from the
line.  It is; although I haven't ever rented one for my line.

> doesn't actually affect me. I bought my own phone a year ago (when the 
> rental last went up) and suggest that everyone else does the same. In fact,

That, also, is a very good idea.  As you mentioned the Warehouse phones
(if they are still selling them) pay for themselves quickly.  IMHO, it'd
be closer to 6 months savings - I paid about $20 from memory.  The phone
I got was an ex-rental Pert Mark I.  It works fine.

> Martin D. Hunt	The opinions expressed above are mine, and mine alone.

--
Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz)
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: paul@actrix.gen.nz (Paul Gillingwater)
Subject: Re: Ten Commandments of computers
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:09:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.172231.6040@news.vanderbilt.edu> Frank Sayre <sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu> writes:
> >> > As one of its first official acts, the Computer Ethics Institute has 
> >> > released what it calls the Ten Commandments of Computer Ethics. 

> >Some US based group of DP professionals who see a need to establish some
> >ethics in the computer business.  
 
> Do you recall the name of the group?

Short memory, Frank.  See above for name of group.

Here's some more info for you:
``With the backing of IBM, the Brookings Institution, the Washington 
Theological Consortium, and the Washington Consulting Group, the 
Computer Ethics Institute has set out to tackle questions of computers 
and ethics.''

And contact details:
Ramon Barquin, Computer Ethics Institute, 202-939-3707, fax 202-797-7806
-- 
Paul Gillingwater, paul@actrix.gen.nz
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Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Atari STFM for sale
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 23 Aug 92 07:14:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

clear@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Charlie Lear) writes:
> >> > > Damnnit, here's another! Does nz.forsale really exist, or is it just more
> >> > > status lossage?
> No it doesn't.
> 
> However, I would like to see nz.forsale created and have the Fidonet echo
> NZ_BUYSELL gatewayed to it.

Personally, I think nz.wanted is a little misnamed for its actual use.  
Changing it to something more appropriate like nz.buysell or nz.classifieds
or whatever wouldn't hurt.  

How much traffic is in NZ_BUYSELL?  What's the signal to noise ratio like?
We don't really need another fiasco like the previous gatewaying effort, but
if the traffic is sticking to the point and is genuinely useful, it may be
a good idea.

--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
				Vote MMP!
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Creation of news groups (was Re: Atari STFM for sale)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 08:50:29 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

mark@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mark Davies) writes:

> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>
> |> Sounds okay, as of the last CFV he posted Don had received a total of 30
> |> votes for the decus thing. I wonder if it's necessary though, is nz.* big
> |> enough to warrant all this democracy? I don't care what groups get created in
> |> nz, why not just rule by decree From On High?
> 
> You obviously weren't around when we created nz.archives, nz.arts, nz.comp,
> nz.rec, nz.soc, nz.soc.green and nz.wanted after a usenet admin BOF at a
> Uniforum NZ conference.  There was a big outcry about "rule by decree From On
> High" after which we settled on the 30 votes scheme (actually I think it was
> 20 votes originally but that was a few years ago and things have grown a
> little since then).

Oh right! No, I wasn't around that far back, I hadn't got the impression from
Andy's message that it was already in use as the creation system. Sounds fair
enough.

BTW, speaking of Uniforum, can anyone reading this who can speak
(un)officially on it's behalf email me about why I should(n't) be a member?

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 63 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Usenet to Fax gateway
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 18:08:49 NZT
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS

G.Eustace@massey.ac.nz (Glen Eustace) writes:

> I have a vague recollection that provision of this kind of service is
> not permitted. By whom you may say, I can't recall.  The situation if
> I recall went something like this.
> 
> Because Faxes are based on telephone charges and we already have
> commercial telephone circuits between X and Y.  Using a private
> network between X and Y to bypass the commerical provider is a no no.
> 
> I recall Electrocorp getting into trouble allowing staff to use their
> private telephone network ( the one that uses the National Grid
> transmission lines as circuits ).
> 

When I worked for the Post Office, that indeed was the case. 
However, with the change to Telecom, and the free market, that 
restriction was removed.
If it wasn't, Clear would be in a LOT of trouble....


dogbowl at The Dawghaus BBS  ( +64 6 357-9245 )


Newsgroups: nz.general
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Subject: Re: Documentaries on TV @ 7:30am Fri TV1
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:35:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.225107.17006@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> russell@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Russell Fulton) writes:

   Yes I highly recomend[20~ this stuff. We have been taping it for some time.
   Recently there has been a BBC series on the origins of civilization,
   a history of science series and British business series. All first
   rate stuff.

Was the history of science series "The Day the Universe Changed",
starring James Burke?  I remember seeing it once, about eight years
ago, and it was absolutely excellent.  I have seen the book spin-off
from the series in the shops *once* and never again.  I would dearly
love to have a copy of the series on video (almost as much as I'd
dearly love to have a video :-).

Is the series the one I want it to be?

Thanks,

Nat
(with his fingers crossed :-)
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Atari STFM for sale
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 11:56:11 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

Damnnit, here's another! Does nz.forsale really exist, or is it just more
status lossage?

---------8<--------begin included article-----------8<----------
Article 3245 of junk:
Newsgroups: nz.forsale
Subject: Atari STFM for sale
From: tonyl@status.gen.nz (Tony Lewis)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 23:04:25 GMT
Organization: Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand

I have an Atari STFM with 1 meg memory, TOS 1.4 and colour monitor
as well as software and mags for sale. $600. Call (09)2978914.

----
Tony Lewis              _ 
tonyl@status.gen.nz   o( )     Fido: 3:772/105
Papakura             /  /\     Auckland, New Zealand
------------8<--------end of include--------8<---------------------

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 63 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Local call charging announcement on Thursday?
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:28:06 +1200
 <1992Aug18.083644.13178@actrix.gen.nz> <1992Aug18.113416.17343@actrix.gen.nz>
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug18.113416.17343@actrix.gen.nz>, Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> In article <1992Aug18.083644.13178@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>
>            <some text deleted to save expensive bandwidth :-)>
>
>> We can avoid this whole argument by leaving the present residenial charging
>> regime intact. No susbsidies, special tricks, or funny business. It works!
>> Don't try to fix it.
> 
> 
> I agree with your second sentence.  Unfortunately, it contradicts your
> first sentence.
> 
> At the moment there *are* subsidies, special tricks, and funny business.
> 
> How can you tell?  If there were no subsidies then Telecon wouldn't
> care how many telephone lines there were or how little or how much you
> used them -- whatever you did it wouldbe fine with Telecom.  Lets take
> a couple of simple examples:
> 
> Suppose you want a second telephone line so that your friends can
> still call you while you're on the modem.  That's funny -- Telecom
> will only supply one line at the residential rate to each household.
> Gee, I wonder if they're subsidised?

Hmmmmmm - One of the people I work with lives with his parents who have
telephone line number one and he has telephone line number two going to a phone
in his bedroom. Two unique numbers, two distinct entries in the telephone book
and he isn't paying commercial rates for his telephone (I have seen the phone
bills). Maybe if you want two lines under the same name they get a bit tetchy -
who knows?

>       <rest deleted because I have no knowledge of the second scenario>

Alan
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Local call charging announcement on Thursday?
From: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz (John Davis)
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:19:26 +1200
Reply-To: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: Chem Dept, Uni of Canty, Chch, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Thomas Farmer (tfarmer@datamark.co.nz) wrote:

> I can't see anything that would stop you from putting in a PABX-type
> device so that multiple houses could share fewer lines. Indeed, I
> actually think that it is a great idea!

indeed isn't that why telecom has plus-1 and is working on plus-2
units - a way to multiplex more traffic onto the existing pairs

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
| o      John Davis - davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz        o |
| o                   chem194@csc.canterbury.ac.nz       o |
| o                   John_Davis@equinox.gen.nz          o |
| o    (Depart)mental Programmer,Chemistry Department    o |
| o  University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand o |
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Local call charging announcement on Thursday?
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:33:06 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Aug19.132806.405@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> by cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty):
> In article <1992Aug18.113416.17343@actrix.gen.nz>, Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

> > Suppose you want a second telephone line so that your friends can
> > still call you while you're on the modem.  That's funny -- Telecom
> > will only supply one line at the residential rate to each household.
> > Gee, I wonder if they're subsidised?
> 
> Hmmmmmm - One of the people I work with lives with his parents who have
> telephone line number one and he has telephone line number two going to a phone

    I have the same arrangement here. As far as I know my phone bill
    is similar to the other phone bill, but then who pays attention
    to these things...

--
*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Otago Email addresses (was Re: Ten Commandments of computers)
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, CSC, Uni. of Canterbury, NZ)
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:58:37 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug12.172231.6040@news.vanderbilt.edu>, Frank Sayre
<sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu> writes:
[deletions]
> Also, and totally unrelated, I am trying to get in touch with someone
> at the University of Otago. Can anyone give me the correct node name,
> assuming there is one?

As we seldom see postings from the deep south in this group, I'll chip
in an answer.  U of Otago addresses I'm aware of are of the form
user@otago.ac.nz.

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 Nick FitzGerald, PC Applications Consultant, CSC, Uni of Canterbury, N.Z.
 n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz    (64)(3)  642-337 Voice,  642-332 FAX
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Creation of news groups (was Re: Atari STFM for sale)
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 22 Aug 92 10:12:13 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

mark@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mark Davies) writes:
> You obviously weren't around when we created nz.archives, nz.arts, nz.comp,
> nz.rec, nz.soc, nz.soc.green and nz.wanted after a usenet admin BOF at a
> Uniforum NZ conference.  There was a big outcry about "rule by decree From On
> High" after which we settled on the 30 votes scheme (actually I think it was
> 20 votes originally but that was a few years ago and things have grown a
> little since then).

I am using a 20 vote cutoff for the nz.org.decus vote, as per the original
agreed rules.  If anyone changed 'em, they didn't tell me, and I did ask.  
Personally, I don't have a strong opinion about whether the cutoff should be 
20 or 30, but from the nz.org.decus vote, I'd say that anything more than 30
would be too high.

Mind you, so far the only nz group that has actually passed any kind of vote
so far has been nz.alex following said outcry (and yes, I was around then).  
It didn't exactly bode well for democracy in nz.*.... 8-)

--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms (aka Zoltar))
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Rotorua, Usenet and BBS's?????
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:30:20 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: --> Insert Witty Organisation Here <--

Hi all,
I am going to Rotorua in about two weeks time, and I am just curious
as to wether there is a USENET feed in Rotorua or not. 
Also are there any BBS's in Rotorua.  

-Grant
-- 
Grant Thoms (Zoltar - Silent Imperium)  91a Glasgow Street, Wanganui,N.Z
    ZOLTAR@GLASGOW.AMIGANS.GEN.NZ -  or  -  ZOLTAR@AMIGANS.GEN.NZ 
CALL "Silent Imperium" BBS +64(06)347-1763 -8pm-8am Mon-Fri-24hrs Sat-Sun
  //   "Silent Imperium"is a Amiga PD group and does only LEGAL stuff!!
\X/       DISCLAIMER: All thoughts expressed are my own, So there!!
From: icousins@lyncus.actrix.gen.nz (Ian Cousins)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Ten Commandments of computers
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 23:10:10 GMT
Organization: Lyncus Mansion, Wellington, New Zealand. +64 4 3835262

Frank Sayre <sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu> writes:

> Also, and totally unrelated, I am trying to get in touch with someone
> at the University of Otago. Can anyone give me the correct node name,
> assuming there is one?

username@otago.ac.nz isthe format I'm using to communicate with people
at Otago... email postmaster@otago.ac.nz if youadon't know the correct
username.


Ian Cousins              \\    //  Email: icousins@lyncus.actrix.gen.nz
PO Box 12057               \\//           Ian.Cousins@actrix.gen.nz
Thorndon PO                //\\    GEnie: I.COUSINS
Wellington, New Zealand  //    \\  Phone  +64 4 383 5262 (Voice GMT +12)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Usenet to Fax gateway
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 00:50:48 GMT
Organization: Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand

 Greetings,
 
 I would like some feedback on a little idea I have brewing here on
 status.gen.nz .

 I have installed a fax card on one of the backup machines here that
 polls status.gen.nz by sync connection each day to make a mirror of
 this system.

 I am will be able to except email to an user id of say 
 out@fax.status.gen.nz  which will send an ascii message to any
 phone number in the auckland free call area. 

 You would for instance send mail to the above id with the phone
 number of say 358-5543 in the forst line of the body of the email
 and then on the next line include the message you want sent ...etc

 Is there any call for this sort of service at all?  The only fee would 
 be the email fee (USENET) associated with the fax to my site at this
 stage.

 Your feed back would be most welcome (yes I have tried it and it seems
 to work well to my fax here at work)

 (NB: forst = first )

regards..

 Jon Clarke               (Z*NET FNET now in FIDO)                HSBC NZM EBD
 GEnie: J.CLARKE6          FIDONET: 3/772:105      TheNets: jonc@status.gen.nz
 T h e    Z * N E T    G l o b a l   N e w s   G a t e w a y    i n    N Z L .
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Atari STFM for sale
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 07:39:02 GMT
Organization: Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand

jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:

> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
> 
> > Damnnit, here's another! Does nz.forsale really exist, or is it just more
> > status lossage?
> > 
> > ---------8<--------begin included article-----------8<----------
> > Article 3245 of junk:
> > Path: acmebbs!cc-server4.massey.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.a
> > Newsgroups: nz.forsale
> > Subject: Atari STFM for sale
> > Message-ID: <36qHPB2w164w@status.gen.nz>
> > From: tonyl@status.gen.nz (Tony Lewis)
> > Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 23:04:25 GMT
> > Organization: Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand
> > Lines: 7
> > 
> > I have an Atari STFM with 1 meg memory, TOS 1.4 and colour monitor
> > as well as software and mags for sale. $600. Call (09)2978914.
> > 
> > ----
> > Tony Lewis              _ 
> > tonyl@status.gen.nz   o( )     Fido: 3:772/105
> > Papakura             /  /\     Auckland, New Zealand
> > ------------8<--------end of include--------8<---------------------
> > 
> > 						- k
> > -- 
> > Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 63 355
> > "Jub'f Xvob?"
> 
>  
>  Ask your sysadmin HOW he has your usenet file setup. I suggest it looks 
> like this
> 
> nz.forsale = /dir\c:\news\nz\general
>  
> it has the RIGHT head so no lossage chap!
> 
 Then again it is not possibly in your usenet file (-grin-)

 Jon Clarke               (Z*NET FNET now in FIDO)                HSBC NZM EBD
 GEnie: J.CLARKE6          FIDONET: 3/772:105      TheNets: jonc@status.gen.nz
 T h e    Z * N E T    G l o b a l   N e w s   G a t e w a y    i n    N Z L .
Newsgroups: nz.general