HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
id <m0mflBr-0000pFC@crash.cts.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 92 23: 29 PDT
	id <jf84054@pro-sol.cts.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 92 23: 20 PDT
	id <jf05998@pro-ren.cts.com>; Thu, 15 Oct 92 01: 39 CDT
	id <je59296@pro-applejacks.cts.com>; Wed, 14 Oct 92 16: 28 CDT
From: debora@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Deborah Alcorn)
Subject: Re: AppleWorks GS problems
Organization: ProLine [pro-applejacks]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:04:27 CDT

   I have been having ALOT of problems with AWGS
 I put out the $100 to get the update so that I can use it with System 6
 the graphics, word proc. work with no problem - I have used Page Layout
 but not that many pages just 1 and it seems to work fine.

   BUT when it comes to Spreadsheet and Data Base I get nothing but
 trouble! I use the DBase update they give you that you need to use 
 your old Data Bases but they don't work I can only get it as far as the
page with the item number at the top of my last page and the date.  No 
scroll bars on the right or bottom and its locked up!
   When I go to use the spreadsheet I can't get it past the "opening"
 page it locks up.
 when I try to enter numbers it locks up-- what a mess.
  I called Quality Computers they told me to call Claris - after about an
hour of trying to get thru I got thru then had to hold for 30 minutes which
long distance is NO fun.  the first day I called Claris the guy tells me 
to make my SCSI HD inactive and reinstall JUST the AWGS icon and then I can
reactivate my hd.  that didn't work so I called them the next day and the
guy I talked to says----- AWGS  was not made to work with System 6 it was
made 3 years ago and it was programmed to work with System 5.02.
 then he proceeds to tell me that there is a person that works there that
is an Apple][ GS freak and he has written a disk with a manual that MIGHT
fix the problem - but it isn't garanteed!!!!!
   If anyone else has any ideas - I'm all ears!!!!!               BTW---

  I have an Apple][ GS ROM 1, with 5.25 Meg of RAM and a 100 Meg QDrive
 and yes, I have tried shift booting so there are no inits or DA's
 nothing works!!!
                         thanks!!!                             BYTE
From: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: P8 FORMATTING
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:19:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst) 

   This is my second plea...  Does anyone have any code examples for
formatting 5.25 and 3.5 disks in Prodos 8?  I'm fairly certain I can
format 3.5's, since I have the Firmware Ref manual and it explains all
about the Smartport calls and ID bytes and so on.  All I assume I need
would be a copy of the boot and directory blocks to write to them after
the format.  However, I have no idea how to format a 5.25, what the ID
bytes are for the slot, etc.  This is in reference to an assembly
language example, btw.

   The faster I can get this information, the faster I can finish up
with ANSITerm's disk utility package.  I'm now working on an editor, so
1.2 will have just about everything (except it will still be in P8.
Give me some time...)

   I'm hoping that P8 has MLI commands to do this, but I have doubts.  I
also don't have an actual P8 reference manual, so I can't look this up.

Paul Parkhurst

paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.UUCP
                                                                                         
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:59:41 GMT

In an article, Gayla Ann Greis (whom we know is secretly Folgers Crystals)
puportedly wrote a lot of shit which will be discussed elsewhere.

Everyone can now send mail to 

greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

since there now -will not- be any further MODZap.  All decisions final, no
warranty is offered.


-- 
        Ian Schmidt: irsman@iastate.edu or aol.com, BITNET: twbv4@isuvax       
 I dig: Apple IIgs, Rush, Tiny Toons, Ren & Stimpy, Dave Barry, David Letterman
  "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will" - Neil Peart  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: 78313@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Christian_Karpp)
Subject: Solitaire ...?
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:20:38 GMT

I saw the Solitaire game a few days ago either on APPLE2-L or binaries.
apple2.
Could that guy who posted it please repost the file - I think it's 
corrupted...

Thanx,
Christian Karpp
FHT Mannheim, FRG

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: damin@hopper.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein)
Subject: Looking for ORCA/C package - Used
Keywords: ORCA/C
Organization: Cleveland State University, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:53:21 GMT

Looking for a used copy of Orca/C with Manuals etc...Any interested sellers?
From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS & CTS...
Date: 11 Oct 92 11:17:05 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <m0mdFda-0000fHC@crash.cts.com> ferret@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Brendan Hoar) writes:
>Note:  If you bought ProTerm 3.0 and have also sent in your registration card,
>PLEASE give the InSync BBS a call and request access to the transfer area so
>you can download the latest (as of late Semptember) bug fixes.  Lotsa bugs
>stomped, more drivers, code improve/optimized.
>
>On to my problem:
>
>I was having no luck getting ProTerm 3.0 to recognize when my ZyXEL dropped
>CTS - in other words, Zmodem uploads were a nigthmare.  PT3 just would send
>and send until it received a ZRPOS error and would go back about 80% of the
>way & start sending again.  Ick.  I was using the most recent versions of the
>Apple IIGS Modem Port (GS/OS) port driver and the Okidata 9600 (RTS/CTS)
>driver with appropriate init string modifications for my modem & a modem
>cable that matches the pinout in the PT3 manual
>
>Turns out it wasn't a software problem.  Anyone (especially from Apple if you
>happen to see this message) know why it is that one GS won't recognize the CTS
>signal and the other will?  See below.
>
>---
>
>Board 12: 248 of 250
> Subject: CTS problem resolved (ZyXEL)
>    From: BRENDAN HOAR [#503]
>  Posted: 10/07/92 at 16:59:13
>  Thread: /HOAR
> 
>Greg,
> 
>The problem with CTS is resolved (kind of):
> 
>Swapped my motherboard.  CTS is now tracked.  Same modem, cable, version of
>PT3, install string, etc.  Same cards as before (including a Zip 10/64split)
> 
>Worthy of Note:
> 
>Serial chip on...                       (bar represents newline)
>Old GS:  Zilog|Z8530VS|SCC|8705
>New GS:  Zilog|Z0853004VSC|SCC|8817
[cut]

I have the same problem. Is it really the chip's fault? If so, what can
I do about it? Only Macs are handled here in Finland, so obviously I
can't get the board swapped.
-- 
-Tero Sand
  EMail: cust_ts@cc.helsinki.fi     Snail mail: Auroran Sairaala os. 6-1
  (if that doesn't work, try                    Nordenskioldinkatu 20
   custts@cc.helsinki.fi)                       00250 Helsinki 25, Finland
From: nparker@cie.uoregon.edu (Neil Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: FTP help needed PART II
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:09:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp.1992Oct17.030914.18479
Organization: The Universal Society for the Prevention of Reality

In article <1992Oct16.150832.27344@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
writes:
>In article <1992Oct16.100045.14934@utkux1.utk.edu> sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur) writes:
>>Okay....thus far I've tried 
>>
>>FTP>cd "pub/apple2"
>
>Get rid of the quotes. You are making this harder than it is.

Since I was the person who originally suggested using quotes, I feel
obliged to come to the poster's defense.  Some FTP clients on VMS (yes, it's
a VMS system) require quotation marks in order to transmit lowercase to the
server.  It seems the standard VMS command-parsing library wants to convert
everything to uppercase...the quotes tell it to accept the text literally,
lowercase and all.

Not all VMS FTP clients have this problem...the Wollongong client, for
example, has its own parsing routine that accepts lowercase as entered.


Anyway...if quoting the argument fails, then I don't know what to
do...apparently we're not dealing with a client that I'm familiar with.

Some suggestions that come to mind:

* Try typing "help ftp" at the $ prompt.  If it works, and if it gives you
  subcommands, read about them--one of them may do what you need.
* Try typing "help" at the FTP> prompt.
* Maybe it's trying to make the commands look as much as possible like DCL?
  Try "set def pub/apple2", both with and without the quotes around
  "pub/apple2"
* Ask your system administrator.

               - Neil Parker
--
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nparker@cie.uoregon.edu     disclaimer...no deposit, no return...
parker@corona.uoregon.edu   (This space intentionally left blank:           )
From: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GSHK in the future
Date: 15 Oct 1992 23:37:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas) says:

>btw, with all this mess with sscii and/or gscii not working right, I thought
>I would mention that Derek Taubert graciously sent Dave Lyons and me the source
>code to gscii and sscii.  Dave and I started putting our own rendition of the
>binscii routines into GSHK v1.1, but we didn't have the time to finish it and
>I had to remove it at the last minute.  So hopefully when I get some spare
>cycles I'll be able to put a robust version of binscii/de-binscii into the
>next GSHK (we were actually fairly close).
>
>Next up (besides real binscii): unzip, un-lzh, and maybe LZH compression.
>

whoa... that would be very convenient... especially if you could throw in
uuen/decoding too...

Just thik of binscii, uucoding, shrinking, zipping, unixcompressing, LZH,
all in one program... wow =-D
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: roger@itl.itd.umich.edu (Roger Espinosa)
Subject: French & Spanish Word Processors...
Organization: Instructional Technology Laboratory, University of Michigan
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:45:38 GMT


Hi.

I'm sort of surprised that there isn't (according to Claris) a 
French version of AppleWorks. Given that, are there any French (or Spanish)
word processors out there for Apple IIs? 

Any leads would be greatly appreciated! Please email, though, as I don't
regularly lurk here...

Thanks!
Roger
roger@trillium.soe.umich.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:33:06 GMT

Au contrare...MODZap is resource based as of the 0.8x version series.  However
the rSound isn't an rSound and the rPictures aren't rPictures (they're raw
sound data, and 256 DreamGrafix Packed respectively :)


-- 
        Ian Schmidt: irsman@iastate.edu or aol.com, BITNET: twbv4@isuvax       
 I dig: Apple IIgs, Rush, Tiny Toons, Ren & Stimpy, Dave Barry, David Letterman
  "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will" - Neil Peart  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: achauhan@warsaw.math.macalstr.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:01:29 GMT

EMILIANO A DIAS writes
> In <comp.sys.apple2> lots of people write:
[Ian pampering nuked]

Well, I think Ian was just looking for a whole lot of attention. ;-)
--
< > ---------------------------------------------------------- < >
< > Amrit Chauhan                 | achauhan@math.macalstr.edu < >
< > GENIE: A.Chauhan              | PL: amritc@pro-hlg         < >
< > ---------------------------------------------------------- < >
From: n9230173@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Michael Juntunen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: AE hard drives
Summary: AE hard drive not working need address of repairmen
Keywords: Need repair info and other help
Date: 14 Oct 92 07:22:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Oct14.072218.625
Organization: Western Washington University

The father of a friend has been having trouble with his Vulcan for quite 
some time.  He went through so much trying to get AE and the local Apple
dealer (hahahahahaha) to fix it that he eventualy gave up an getting it fixed.
with the new system 6.0 out he has been giving serious thought to getting it
fixed. can someone email me the address and phone number of an individual that
does such repairs (I used to have this info but lost it).

also, some other questions - If I understand correctly the Vulcan is an IDE 
drive?  and that if a sector goes bad you cannot reformat the drive?

as for what the drive itself is doing (please understand that this is third 
hand and started from an computer illiterate) - After working for awhile the 
RAM will apparently start getting trashed.  the only way to clear the error 
messages is to completely shut the computer off and then turn it back on but 
the Ram problem will return.

my mail adresses is 

n9230173@henson.wwu.cc.edu
From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 04:48:19 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Oct8.021815.339@news.iastate.edu>, by irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy):
> Heh, no, Amrit wasn't one of the people I was originally cheesed at, but he's
> certainly earned a place on that list now.  James Brookes and Mike Horwath and
> I are debating releasing MZ 0.85 with a splash page consisting of the email
> addresses of the culprits...

Ian, I think that you've stepped over the deep end. Now I know that the way
you'll take this, and the way non #AppleIIgs IRCers will read this should be
very different, so prepare to get blasted... (In the name of good faith, and
not to get on your cheese side.)

You can be more moody and cocky than anyone else out there. You have the
reputation. Just look at how many nights you've gone *WAYYYYYY* overboard
on abaddon. Somewhere along the line, it ceased to be funny, and believe it
or not, I'm sure you really hurt him along the way. Did he forgive you? You
bet! It's kinda like a close knit family thing, and sure, we don't always
get along, but what the hey! You've said a *LOT* of dumb things too!
(Like rule #1 of #Aiigs) How about your temper tantrums when you commit
channel suicide and leave? If you don't think *THAT* doesn't piss people
off, you should have seen how cheesed I in particular was at you 2 weeks
ago when you did it.

So whats my point? PMD expressed that your time could be better spent
elsewhere. So that's what started it. But since when have *YOU* ever been
concerned with what other people think? MZ was OK. So was ST. I think that
the competition was what was getting you. A lot of times ST *was* better.
But there were things that were only in MZ as well... Thats why the
competition continued... It would be nice to see you and Tim get together
on SoniqZap or something... There are still a lot of improvements that
could be made. It's not that you don't have the support of comp.sys.apple2
or #AppleIIgs! So really, please don't blame us for whatever it is you're
blaming us for.

Now Joe K says we should get down on our knees, and other people run around
and panic that Ian is "Outa-here," but I don't think that that is appropriate
either. Ian, you've been a hell of a jerk, but we still love ya. So get
your damn head out of your *ss, wake up, smell the coffee, and either
karate do, or karate no. If you keep working on MZ great! If you don't,
then that's too bad. I personally liked playing with it, but if it's not
what *you* want to do...

And if it is, then fuck 'em... (hehehe...)
*** Action : Vdub grins and flicks a booger on IRSman's monitor... ;-)
*** Topic for #AppleIIgs: Abaddon and Drecsau in '92!
<Vdub) <-- Wants to be like Mike. (I wanna be, wanna be, wanna be like Mike!)
*** Signoff: Vdub (Outa Here!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sledbett@nyx.cs.du.edu (Shawn Ledbetter)
Subject: E-mail address of Morgan Davis
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 02:31:18 GMT

Does anyone have the e-mail address of Morgan Davis?  I would like 
some information on his Pro-Line system.
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From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: power supply for portable HD
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:43:55 PST
Organization: BBS

Does anyone want to sell their power supply for the iDS/Jasmine/Mass Micro
portable hard drive??

Please leave mail!!
From: Hamersley@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Paul Hamersley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple ][+ upgrade questions
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:59:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: DOCKMAST.921016115930.087387
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


I have just bought an apple ][+ for my kindergartner.  I am interested
upgrading it to the configuration mentioned in the FAQ, but have
a few questions.

1) what does a language card do beside providing 16k of extra ram?

2) how do i find out what the current compliment of memory is?

3) what do i need to buy to hook up a joystick / is there a joystick
and board package still available?

4) anybody able to recommend sources of public domain/shareware for
kindergarten-2?

5) is it worth upgrading the apple ][+ to 128 k, 80 column or should 
i look for an enhanced //e at the next swap meet?

Thanks for any and all help.

paul hamersley <Hamersley@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL>
From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: Re: Accelerators (was: Re: Resurrection!!!!!)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:49:13 GMT

grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:
>I certainly don't think everybody NEEDS an accelerator just to run their
>computer.  However, anyone who does buy one would probably never go back
>to the stock 2.8 MHz speed.

What do people think of the difference an 8MHz Zip Chip makes to a 1MHz //e
or //c? Has anyone posted an article describing how these beasties work? If
they cache memory then switching from main to aux (or worse changing banks
in aux ram) would cause problems (as might using INTCXROM). Is knowledge
of all these softswitches hard wired into the Zip Chip? How configurable
is the chip to suit a particular system?
-- 
David Wilson				(042) 21 3802 voice, (042) 21 3262 fax
Dept Comp Sci, Uni of Wollongong	david@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: power@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Russ Woodroofe)
Subject: Re: Looking for some VERY OLD Apple software!
Organization: GREX Public Access Unix +1 313 761 3000
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:06:52 GMT


     Re: Old Apple programs:

	If they aren't already classified as freeware, maybe Apple could
do so and post them to the net?  It would be neat to have some of this
ols stuff around!  (hint, hint, Apple employees :) )

                                                   The Power
From: Brian.E.Hannon@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple //e?
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:00:13 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

I have been using a Macintosh for a couple of years now, while my
family (high-school age sister mainly) has been using our ten year old
Apple //e (64K, 2 5.25 drives, color monitor) as a glorified word
processor.  My dad has been looking at the software available for the
Macintosh, particularly financial software, but others too and
wondering whether the old clunker is worth anything.

I have seen some pretty snazzy software on a //gs, but I worry that it
would take more money to make the //e worth anything than the cost of a
new Mac LCII.(~$1900)  I have no idea what exists, but I would imagine
that I'd need at least more memory to make this machine run any new
software.  What do you folks think?  (Also, at one point I heard
something about a motherboard upgrade...  what's that?)

Please email.

Thanks,
Bri
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Dos 3.3 FST
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:32:17 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <Bw01Mq.9I@rice.edu> jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong) writes:
>
> Actually, I don't see a read/write DOS 3.3 FST as being anything more
> than marginally useful.

Agreed!  Seeing how slow it is reading DOS 3.3 disks, imagine how slow
WRITING one would be!

It is great that Apple provided an easy upward migration path by
providing a read-only DOS 3.3.  There is no need for downward migration!

> Actually, I've got a question about how FSTs work.  Say I copy a regular Mac
> file, a Word document, for example, to a my ProDOS hard disk.  GS/OS sees
> the file as type $00 (I think) on the Mac disk, and gives it that filetype
> on my hard disk.  If I then copy the file back to the Mac disk, has it lost
> its Macintosh file type, as well as its Finder flags and its creator
> signature? 

It depends.  In System 6.0, a file copied from an HFS disk to a ProDOS
disk will retain ALL of its Macintosh information if and only if it has
a resource fork.  The Macintosh file information is stored in the
ProDOS 'extended key block', which is only present in extended files
(i.e. those with resource forks).

I don't think Word files have resource forks, so the answer is that
the type/creator would be lost in the transfer.

Even an empty resource fork (resource_EOF of zero) is sufficient to
retain the Mac type/creator, etc.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: uzr512@work1.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (Jrgen Modic - Raum 302 - Tel. 3447)
Subject: Wanted: Apple II+ education-sw
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:07:56 GMT
Organization: RHRZ Uni Bonn

I'm looking for (German) education-software for an old Apple II europlus.
This software is intended to be used by 6 to 10 aged pupils. I would be
appreciated if you would contact me by my E-Mail address uzr512@work1.rhrz.
uni-bonn.de. Thanks in advance.

Regards, Juergen
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: WANTED: Rev. D. SCSI card for IIe.
Date: 8 Oct 1992 13:09:30 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:

>Not quite. Since the only Rev D SCSI is the Ramfast Rev D

What? It _could_ be possible confusion with the DMA SCSI, which came after the
Rev. C Apple SCSI. In the case of the Apple SCSI these are ROM revisions and
not board revisions, but there are important differences between the ROMs.

>which is NOT recommended for use in a //e.
> 
>There is NO Apple Rev D SCSI, so I can only assume you are referring to the 
>Ramfast, which, again, is NOT recommended for use in Apple //e's

Where the HELL did you get that?? That is wrong-wrong-wrong. The Ramfast works
fine in a //e, unless you have DMA-incompatible stuff in it that you don't
want to stop using. Even then you can turn DMA off and still get the caching.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu