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From: inunn@hpb.hwc.ca
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re: Ottawa Citizen Morning vs. Afternoon
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:33:36 EDT
Organization: Health and Welfare, Canada

I fail to understand the comment that the afternoon news is more out of 
date than the morning news.  If it's simply the same news its datedness
is the same by the afternoon whether you read it morning or afternoon.
Unless you have another source of more recent news, the datedness of a
single source, although lamentable perhaps, remains the most up to date
news you have.  So even if the afternoon addition failed to update or add any new news, what's the problem.  

I think there are more interesting issues.  After n weeks of reporting every
non essential detail, is the latest article on the constitution or Sarajevo
or etc. adding significantly more to your store of knowledge.  Is reading
any kind of news having significant impact on your life or anyone else's.
Is there other news beyond the 3 D's (death, disease and destruction).
Newsgroups: ott.general,bnr.general
From: tracyb@bnr.ca (Tracy Blomquist)
Subject: Re: Advice on Ottawa computer stores?
Organization: Bell Northern Research
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:09:08 GMT

Darin Cowan (root) (cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca) wrote:
: dp@hydra.carleton.ca (Dave Perry VE3IFB) writes:
: 
: > Someone recommended MICS - I have to disagree. They sold me
: > a 12 mhz 286 a few years ago which had trouble with intermittent
: > parity errors. They could not fix it after repeated visits, and refused
: > to refund my money or even exchange it for another unit. Maybe they've
: > cleaned up their act, but I can't recomment them.
: > 
: > Competition computers in Kanata has been pretty good, but the prices
: > aren't great.
: 
: I guess it depends on the person.  I've never tried Competition
: COmputers because I've found some of their staff to be complete jerks
: outside the store and that's been enough to keep me away.
: 
: I bought a souped up 286-24 from MICS and it was great.  They called me
: up and upgraded the power supply for free one time.  When my BBS hard
: disk packed it in, they came to my house and replaced it free of charge.
: This was a few years ago though.  It's possible they've gone downhill.
: 
: 

I've been dealing with MICS for about 5 years and received great service
every time.  As a previous poster said, they're knowledgable and eager
to keep you happy.  Their prices are not the lowest, but I know the
owner(s) and I'm going to suggest that they offer a discount to BNR
employees.  A discount from a few various stores around Ottawa (other
than Computerland) could benefit us and them.

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Newsgroups: ott.general
From: kennedyl@bnr.ca (Ken Lawrence)
Subject: Take Back The Night - March/Rally
Reply-To: kennedyl@bnr.ca (Ken Lawrence)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:57:46 GMT

	TAKE BACK THE NIGHT

Saturday September 19,  1992

Rally at 7:00pm
Hull City Hall (close to Museum of Civilization off
Laurier,  between Victoria & Hotel de Ville)

March to Follow
(bring noisemakers and placards)

Coffee House and Art Show to Follow at
the Electric Building,  Victoria Island,  exit
Chaudiere Bridge)

Funds available for public transit and childcare.

All women and children welcome.

613-725-2160  Ottawa

819-771-1773  Hull

Newsgroups: ott.general
From: nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau)
Subject: Re: Mailbox rental?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:06:45 GMT

In article <1992sep7.15120.15237@ottawa.ca> dicleli@trix.genie.uottawa.ca (Calvin Dicle) writes:
>Hello folks, 
>
>I am new in Ottawa. I would like to know where in Ottawa I can rent a
>mail box for a couple of month. I know that in some province that
>people can rent a mail box in a postal office.
>
>Any helpful suggestion will be greatly appreciated.

Here's a simple suggestion:  call the post office and ask them.
They'll have the real answers to your questions, not the "I guess" and
"I seem to remember" answers you're likely to get on the Net.

No offense intended - it's just that so many people don't realize the
wealth of information at their fingertips!

The Rhealist - Rheal Nadeau - nadeau@bnr.ca - Speaking only for myself
From: simon@chezrob.pinetree.org (floyd low)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: share a ride 
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 19:32:18 EDT
Distribution: ott
Organization: RPM Desktop Publishing, Ottawa, ON - +1 613 794 0911

On Oct 1 I take up a new job at Connaught Ranges out by BNR/DREO. If any 
one commutes daily from Aylmer to that area and could use a passenger 
please call me via Internet or at my office downtown...Capt Floyd 
Low/Dept of National Defence 990 8938/ fax 990 8767 attn G3 
TASK...OR OPTION Z>>>>>>>>We could park your boat on DND Landing if we 
came over from Aylmer....Part of my job is liaison for the facilities out 
there...OPTION Z wouldn't work well after about mid Dec but it is a 
thought....Give me solutions, not why it can't be done


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From: jp_torunski@chezrob.pinetree.org (JP Torunski)
Newsgroups: ott.general,bnr.general
Subject: Re: Advice on Ottawa computer stores?
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 20:58:21 EDT
Distribution: ott
Organization: RPM Desktop Publishing, Ottawa, ON - +1 613 794 0911

cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (Darin Cowan (root)) writes:

> who have had problems with Akran equipment.  When their stuff works,
> it's reasonably priced.
> 
We bought a 386 from them as part of a bulk buy, and had no problems with 
it. I think the HD controller fried right after we got it, but other than 
that it's been great. very quiet, fast, and I love the keyboard! (nice 
feel). Mind you, we had to wait 45 minutes for them to come out onto the 
showroom!!! we were left alone in the store for all that time... and when 
the guy came out we said we wanted to buy a computer and he said 'sorry, 
I don't do that'.. but oh well
> These are only my opinions, and are not to be taken as an advertisement.
> I am not affiliated with any of the companies listed above.
Neither am I.
> 
> 


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Newsgroups: ott.general
From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)
Subject: Re: Advice on Ottawa computer stores?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 16:04:00 GMT

In article <CRATH.92Sep9115118@bcarh20d.bnr.ca> crath@bnr.ca (Lynda Timmerman) writes:
>My primary use of the DeskJet is output from TeX, LaTeX, and
>FrameMaker.  The FrameMaker output is done through a postscript
>interpreter, so like TeX a full page bitmap is being sent.
>
>NOTE: When used in this fashion I find that the DeskJet PLUS can print
>      faster than an HP LaserJet printer, since its the transfer rate
>      between the computer and the printer that's the limiting factor;
>      and the DeskJet prints the page as it receives the image, while
>      the LaserJet doesn't print until it has received the whole page.

Since your computer calculates the bitmap from the postscript commands,
the HP DeskJet Plus may be faster because your computer can calculate the
bitmap faster than the computer inside the HP LaserJet.

>As always, your mileage may vary,

Exactly my point. If you have a very fast computer, buying a cheap
bitmap-only printer may give you faster aggregate throughout than
a postscript (or clone) printer of the same price.

Michael MY Hui          myhui@bnr.ca           Ottawa Canada
Newsgroups: ott.general
From: peirce@bnr.ca (John Peirce)
Subject: Dog House and/or Awning to give away
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:13:28 GMT

I would like to give away a doghouse and/or awning to
anyone who is prepared to remove them.

Phone John for details

(613) 729-3536


Newsgroups: ott.general,bnr.general,misc.forsale.wanted
From: poirier@bnr.ca (Daniel Poirier)
Subject: * * * WANTED: Ski gear for 5 ft tall 14 year old... * * *
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ont
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:24:56 GMT


My 14 year old son wants to get into skiing next winter, and I'd like to
get him some equipment to encourage him into outdoor activities. However,
new equipment runs pretty expensive when you're not even sure the kid will
be serious about it. I would guess that many people out there have
equipment that their kids grew out of, and that it might be up for sale.
If you have any such equipment, or if you know anybody who does, please
email me or call (613)763-5185 (office). What I need is a complete package
(skis, boots, etc...), but if you have only some of the needed stuff, I
might be interested as well. I guess 5 feet tall, 95 pounds (?) should
suffice, if you know he wears a 7 1/2 shoe size ?!?

Thanks...

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From: cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (Darin Cowan (root))
Newsgroups: ott.general,bnr.general
Subject: Re: Advice on Ottawa computer stores?
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 12:39:52 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario

kerryy@bnr.ca (Kerry Yackoboski) writes:

> Can anyone recommend Ottawa-area computer stores to visit or to avoid?
> I'm somewhat new here and I'm interested in buying a good-quality
> printer (probably an HP DeskJet to hang off of my 386) but I'd like to
> have some questions answered first...and I just dread trying to explain
> that the only thing I'll use the printer for is LaTeX.
> 
> Are there any stores known for high-quality service and respectably
> knowledgeable sales people?  Exceptionally low prices?  What are the
> odds of the intersection of these two criteria being a null set?

In my opinion:

Avoid:                            Recommend:
Mr. Diskette                      MICS/Miccount
Steals                            Mooney's Bay Electronics
Ali                               Inly Systems
Akran

Mics/Miccount has great service and knowledgeable employees, but their
prices aren't the cheapest.  Mooney's Bay has about the lowest prices
around, but you better know what you want.  Their service department is
OK.  Inly has great prices on software and their employees seem to have
their stuff together but I've never bought hardware there.

Mr. Diskette has poor service, ignorant employees, and poor prices.
Steals has poor prices and ignorant employees, but I've never tried
their service department.  In their defence, their diskett prices are
OK.  Ali refused to sell me some things that I knew they had in stock.
Go figure.  Their prices aren't that good anyway.  I know a few people
who have had problems with Akran equipment.  When their stuff works,
it's reasonably priced.

These are only my opinions, and are not to be taken as an advertisement.
I am not affiliated with any of the companies listed above.



Newsgroups: ott.general,bnr.general
From: dp@hydra.carleton.ca (Dave Perry VE3IFB)
Subject: Re: Advice on Ottawa computer stores?
Organization: O.A.R.C. Packet Working Group at Carleton University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:10:09 GMT

Someone recommended MICS - I have to disagree. They sold me
a 12 mhz 286 a few years ago which had trouble with intermittent
parity errors. They could not fix it after repeated visits, and refused
to refund my money or even exchange it for another unit. Maybe they've
cleaned up their act, but I can't recomment them.

Competition computers in Kanata has been pretty good, but the prices
aren't great.

Dave

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Newsgroups: ott.general
From: dominic@scooter.genie.uottawa.ca (Dominic Richens)
Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of the Internet
Originator: dominic@
Reply-To: dominic@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca
Organization: MCRLab - University of Ottawa
Distribution: ott
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 15:15:14 GMT


In <LTVRqB5w165w@pinetree.org> breath@pinetree.org (Norma Joseph) writes:

>I have heard of a publication called "Zen and the Art of the Internet"
>but am having trouble locating  a copy.
>If anyone has heard of this, probably obscure, document, please let
>me know if there is a copy around the Ottawa that I could borrow or
>copy or buy.
>Thanks in advance.

For those of you with anon ftp, you'll find the first edition of it 
on ftp.cs.widener.edu under /pub/zen.  There are versions in ASCII, 
LaTeX (sources!), and PS.

I haven't seen the second edition yet, though I'm sure Prospero on Bank
either has it, or can order it for you, relevant info:

   Title:  Zen and the Art of the Internet: A Beginner's Guide, Second Edition
   Author: Brendan P. Kehoe
   ISBN:   0-13-010778-6
   Price:  $22.00
   Pub:    Prentice Hall

If you don't want to buy the second edition, and don't have anon ftp, you
can always drop by B505 in the CBY building and photocopy mine.

dominic

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Newsgroups: ott.general
From: u509274@csi.UOttawa.CA (U. N. derGrad)
Subject: DAYS OF THUNDER
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:15:11 GMT

Keywords: Good game cheap!


Good day fellow neters!

Have I got a deal for you!!!

I have been given a game which I already own...  :(

The game is Days of Thunder and is in perfect condition!  (never been opened)

Retails for around 55$ in the region, I will sell for 40$ obo.


I can be reached at 737-3852 24 hours a day until Sept. 30 1992.

Please leave a full message.


Cheers!


Newsgroups: ott.general
From: kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka (the mad pianist))
Subject: Wanted: Cheap PC
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 05:35:14 GMT

My fiancee who will be taking off to Cincinnati for two years would like to buy
a cheap PC to use as a terminal and occasional word processing.

If you have an old (but functioning) XT or equivalent, with monochrome display
that you'd like to give away or sell for a song (or literally, speaking, as she
is going to do a Master's degree in Music Performace. ;)

Please send e-mail to: kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca

Thanks.

-- 
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From: breath@pinetree.org (Norma Joseph)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Zen and the art of the Internet
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 17:08:19 EDT
Distribution: ott
Organization: Gordon's Pinetree * Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

I got a copy of Zen and the art of the Internet from Gordon. it is
posted in the files /public area here on this board if you are
interested in downloading it.  File name:  ZEN-1_0.txt

I haven't had a chance to read it yet but am looking forward to it.

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Newsgroups: ott.general
From: ellens@bnr.ca (Chris Ellens)
Subject: Re: Mortgage Amortization Scheduling Service
Followup-To: ott.general
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Distribution: ott
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:58:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.131515.27522@bnr.ca>, liyu@bnr.ca (whyme) wrote:
> 
> Planning on how to pay off your mortgage?
> 
> For CANADIAN mortgage amortization scheduling service, 
> contact 721-6074.

Well, if you're looking for ways to pay off your mortgage quicker and
want to test out a few scenarios (different interest rates, payment
frequency, etc) I guess you have a couple of choices:

1. Call the number above, and pay $5 for some printouts. Apparently
   the banks charge $10 for the same info, so you're ahead, in a way.

2. If you have access to a computer (and if you're reading this you
   should) you might want to whip up a quick spreadsheet to generate
   the info. Note that this is not as simple as it sounds, since 
   mortgages are NOT the same as ammortizing something like a simple
   car loan. And Canadian mortgages are different than American ones,
   so you can't use any U.S. software you may have snagged somewhere.
   (Basically, the difference has to do with the fact that Canadian
   mortgages are compounded semi-annually).

   So, now you have a couple more choices:

   a) Derive the formulas for Canadian mortgages using your grade 10
      math knowledge about compounding and annuities. (ha ha)
   b) Pick up a book at the library which gives you the formulas.
      (There's a good one at Nepean PL, but I've forgotten the name).

   Either way, you have to do a bit of work to put them into a 
   spreadsheet, so maybe the $5 dosen't sound so bad to you. But it
   sure is nice to be able to try different options at the touch of
   a key. I've got a spreadsheet in Excel on the Mac - hey, for $5
   I'll sell you the program, instead of a couple of listings!

Chris Ellens
ellens@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: bnr.general,ott.general
From: space%bnr.ca (Scott Pace)
Subject: Know a GOOD TV repair shop?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:45:23 GMT


My TV (a 2 year old RCA 28" ColorTrak 2000) is on the fritz.  I can turn it
on and the power-on light comes on, but no picture or sound.  For a few
weeks prior to this being a permanent mode for it, the tv would sometimes
turn itself off (no picture or sound but power light still on), but would
come back to normal after a minute or so.  A clicking sound would acompany
this on/off cycle.

I have opened up the back and looked for obvious things like loose wires,
blown fuses, and obviously fried components, but everything looks ok.  I
also vacuumed the dust off of the insides, but there wasn't very much.  All
that didn't help.

First, anyone have any ideas as to what might be wrong, that I might
attempt to fix?

Second, failing that, can anyone recommend a good tv repair shop that does
good work at a decent price, and doesn't try and rip you off?

Thanks.

--
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From: kim@Software.Mitel.COM (Kim Letkeman)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re: Ottawa area computer stores
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:03:30 GMT
Distribution: ott
Organization: MITEL Public Switching, Kanata, Ontario, Canada
In-reply-to: breath@pinetree.org's message of 9 Sep 92 21:14:43 GMT

In article <9iRuqB2w165w@pinetree.org> breath@pinetree.org (Norma Joseph) writes:

| I only ever deal with one computer store in this area anymore... due
| mainly to the fact that I have received excellent point of sale and
| after-sales service from them.  They are Inly Systems on Cummings
| Avenue (off Ogilvie road near St. Laurent).  I buy all my hardward
| and software from them and have no qualms whatsoever about calling
| them up at any time with any question no matter how stupid I feel it
| might sound.  Their prices are competitive as well, I believe,
| although I have ceased shopping around.

I agree with the Inly systems recommendations. I've only bought one
thing from them (a Logitech Series 9 mouse), but they easily beat
everyone else's price at the time and they were quite friendly in the
store. Perhaps it's because they are a small business and rely on word
of mouth.

A comment on the Akran nay-sayers. I purchased Turbo Pascal 5.5 form
them a few years ago because they had the lowest price in town by
about $20. They have since grown somewhat and I think they're prices
now reflect that. We (at work) purchased a 486 from them recently and
it was perfect with one exception: the bar to which the cards were
attached was out of alignment, causing the cards to unseat every few
days. They sent their technician out the day after I called and he
fixed it up in ten minutes. No problems since. Their prices are not in
the el cheapo league, but they seem to be competitive.

One other recommendation. Komputer Korner in Kanata. He runs a really
good shop with excellent quality and good prices (in our experience.)
--
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Newsgroups: ott.general
From: baldy@micor.ocunix.on.ca (The Bald Eagle)
Subject: Re: BBS's Info Requested
Organization: Arkham Asylum
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 04:18:29 GMT

In article <jwieser.715397489@cunews> jwieser@alfred.carleton.ca (Jeff Wieser) writes:
> I'am looking to find out more about BBS's around the Ottawa area.
>If anyone has a list of local BBS's and phone numbers it would  be
>appreciated if you could mail them to me .

Look for a computer store that carries the 'HUM' magazine.  It is a local
magazine which has a list of about 30 BBS around town.  Once you can get
logged onto a BBS, finding all the others is easy.  
And, BTW, that magazine is free (but you can also purchase a subscribtion
which will ensure that you do receive it every 2 months).

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Newsgroups: bnr.general,ott.general
From: llau@bmerh925.BNR.CA (Louie Lau)
Subject: Garden Home for Rent In Bells Corner
Reply-To: llau@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 16:48:55 GMT


	3 bedroom Garden Home for rent in Bells Corner with finished
	rec. room in the basement.

	Available: October 1, 92.

	Rent: $750.00

	Please call Lisa at 820-1024 after 1:00 pm.


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Louie Lau                   | PHONE: (613) 765-2311         	
Bell-Northern Research      | BITNET: llau@bnr.ca    			
P.O. Box 3511, Stn. C       |
Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7, CANADA  |
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Newsgroups: ott.general
From: cantin@nrccsb3.di.nrc.ca (Claude Cantin)
Subject: Re: LOW gas prices in West End!
Organization: National Research Council of Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:00:49 GMT

The east end (Orleans) has seen decent prices for the past 6 weeks or so.
ALL stations on St-Joseph had their prices down as low as 53.9 last week, then
raised it to 57.5.  This morning, some (including Petro-Can, Esso, and Shell),
at 52.7...

    Claude
Newsgroups: ott.general,bnr.general
From: dannyd@bcars692.bnr.ca (Croc Duguay)
Subject: Re: Advice on Ottawa computer stores?
Reply-To: dannyd@bcars692.bnr.ca (Croc Duguay)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:27:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.013948.4431@bnr.ca>, kerryy@bnr.ca (Kerry Yackoboski) writes:
>Can anyone recommend Ottawa-area computer stores to visit or to avoid?
>I'm somewhat new here and I'm interested in buying a good-quality
>printer (probably an HP DeskJet to hang off of my 386) but I'd like to


If the HP DeskJet you are interested in is the low end one that uses
Ink Jet technology, I say avoid it. I had to return mine after I struggled
with the print quality for about a month ( it really smudges alot ) .
The Apple Stylewriter is infinitely better.

I haven't checked out similar printers by other manufacturers.

Danny