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From: dak9779@summa.tamu.edu (ALGORYTHON)
Subject: Re: Mexican and a new US Brew
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:04:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.103942@iphase.com>, plarkin@iphase.com (Patrick Larkin) writes...
> 
> 
>All this talk about Tecate, Dos Equis, etc reminds me:   Anyone tried Simpatico?
>        Its one of my favorite "South of the Border" types, but rarely found
>        in resteraunts (my usual venue for that kinda beer).
> 
>Also, (please no flaming) has anyone tried this new Miller Reserve (100% Barley)?
>When at clubs and stuff that dont carry anything but Bud, Miller, etc.,
>I usually get Miller Genuine Draft, and I tried this Reserve stuff.....
>I'm sorry, not much difference that I can tell (maybe my tastebuds
>have been damaged to frequent exposures to Guinness;  oh well, such is the price of quality)
> 
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i bought a six of simpatico once.  the only thing i liked about about the 
stuff was the bottle.  the ones i had seemed very bland, undercarbonated.
it wasn't especially bad, it was just blah.

i wouldn't mind having a bunch of black bottles like that for my home brew,
though.  i just wouldn't want to have to pay for and drink enough of the stuff
to get a useful quantity.

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: alwalsh@unix1.tcd.ie (Andreas Walsh)
Subject: Re: Belgian beers are best!!
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:33:38 GMT

In <1992Nov11.102435.13702@htsa.aha.nl> cees@tamtam2.htsa.aha.nl (Cees Keyer) writes:

>In article <deboer.721397351@lri.jur.uva.nl> deboer@lri.jur.uva.nl (Peter de Boer) writes:
>>Dear Wilgenhof,
>>
>#>I must say I disagree about the fact that Duvel tastes of bananas, in fact I
>#>do consider it an insult to the Emperor beer Duvel. But let's cut the grap.
>#>Where trying to start a good discussion here about the Belgian beers in
>#>general. Let's stick to the trappist beers for a moment. There are  few in 
>#>Belgium : Westmalle, Leffe, Orval, Chimay, Rochefort and Duvel.
>#>Rochefort is a beer which comes in 3 different ways: 6, 8 and 10, the labels
>#>are of different colors. Yellow = 6, Green = 8 and Blue = 10. These numbers
>#>don't stand for the alcohol percentage. This beer contains a lot of yeast so
>#>be careful when you pour it. The blue 10 contains 12.3 percent alcohol, try
>#>this one first, allthough it will be very difficult to purchase even in
>#>Belgium. 
>Dear beer drinkers,
>Why do you talk about Belgium beers and not about the real dutch beers.
>You are both from Amsterdam or at least study there and I know that the best 
>(at least i think it's the best) dutch beer comes from Amsterdam.
>It's the beers from, Brewery 'T IJ funenkade Amsterdam

>They brew nice beers like Struis Columbus Zatte etc.

>You should try them.
If Dutch are so fucking good at brewing how come the Guinness they brew
for European consumption is so shit!! I think we should be told!!!
Yours,

Andreas
  
>Greeting Cees...

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From: ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Subject: Re: Mexican and a new US Brew
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:26:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.110951@lugnut.Prime.COM> harvey@lugnut.Prime.COM (Harvey Bornstein) writes:
>
>I had Simpatico at a Mexican restaurant a while ago, paid a lot 
>money for it (Mexican beer, i.e. Corona was the rage at the time)
>and thought it sucked!
>
>Recently on a whim, I took a look at the label on a Simpatico 
>bottle and was surprised to see that it's not a Mexican beer at
>all but was made in IOWA!!  Maybe it's just imported by an Iowa
>importer, but that was not indicated.  Can anyone back me up
>on this?

I went into a liquor store and bought 2 beers by that name - one 
was made in Iowa and was OK, the other was Mexican and sucked.
The one from Iowa also came in a 22oz bottle painted black.  The
mexcican was a 12 oz bottle, also painted balck.


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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jbunn@seanews.akita.com (John E Bunn)
Subject: Re: Sam Adams Cranberry Lambic
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News + Mail
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:17:29 GMT

> Cranberry Lambic.  That's a Belgium style beer, isn't it?
 
Yuck, it was swill, and this from a long time fan...  Give me a Sammies
Winter any time.

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: math1rb@elroy.uh.edu (92F07486)
Subject: The Absolutely BEST Beer!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:59:00 GMT

IMHO, the absolutely best beer is free beer.

Sorry, I just had to post it. I'm currently REALLY broke and I can't even
scrape up enough for a 6 of Ole Mill. Oh well...
later,
  dave
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Date: Thursday, 12 Nov 1992 13:54:05 CET
From: <K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Beer Bottles
 <lopi.721403026@dipisa.di.unipi.it>

Ciao Fabio.
...
Non lasciarti ingannare dal mio nome e dal posto da dove e-mailo.
Sono Italiano anch'io. Vengo dall'Alto Adige e sto studiando
Informatica in Italia.
...
Anyway, I got all the bottles you listed.
...
Hope to hear from you.
...
Regards, Werner.
From: busch@daacdev1.stx.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: re: yeast source
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:45:40 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

Jan asks about special yeasts.  For a complete yeast source,
including over 35 strains, call Dr. MArtin Schiller at
301-231-8211.


Jim Busch
From: libajw@emory.edu (Alis Whitt)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Samuel Smith's (et.al.)
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:03:21 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

This is a test.  Please disregard. 

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jmellby@iluvatar.dseg.ti.com (John R. Mellby)
Subject: Re: which list is official?
Organization: TI-DSEG Spring Creek
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:02:34 GMT

In terms of lists of places for beer, I have been maintaining for
about 5 years yet another list.  This was intended to help travelers
find places good for beer drinking, and places to buy beer (since I
find that there are usually good local or regional beers which I
can't find at home).  My list has brewpubs, pubs, some micros (mainly
listed for tours), restaurants, and retailers of beer.  I currently
have 1321 different entries mainly in the USA and Canada, but some
international.  I try to keep up to date on the brewpubs the same as
the other list maintainers do.

Of course the real problem with this list is that is longer than the
lists of only brewpubs.  On the other hand, there are some places where
you want to find pubs rather than brewpubs to get the micro-brews.
My Father's Office in Santa Monica comes to mind as a prime example.

I am reluctant to post this as it is 260K long.  A version 6 months (or more)
old is on the Homebrew archive at sierra.Stanford.EDU, at
pub/homebrew/pubs.Z.  I am trying to upload a more current version.

Having worked on this I know what a pain it is to watch alt.beer,
the beer and homebrewing mags, and the news to try to keep up on current
openings and closings.  I'm certainly a month behind on inputting the
latest magazine info.  I salute any others who are willing to try and
put in the time and effort to keep other informed.

John R. Mellby                       Texas Instruments
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From: serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Something about German "
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:27:09 GMT
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <1992Nov5.154922.218@csghsg5a.bitnet> 92640861s@csghsg5a.bitnet writes:



>I'm totally astonished about this news-information-system and this highly
>intelligent conversation. But I've got the slight impression, that most of
>the "beer conversation"-members like to drink beer but they don't know
>much about "beer culture". In Germany it is very important to know how
>to deal with beer, especially with good beer. For example it should always
>be kept cold. 

Very few Americans would argue with you about the fact good beer has to be 
kept cold.  It's well known that beer becomes 'skunked' if it has been cold 
and is warmed up (one of the reasons European beers on long journeys via 
ships to the US often taste horrid -- they've been warmed up to much.)  
However, I've noticed that in Bayern and Austria often there are beer 
warmers for older people who have digestive problems.  Being curious I tried 
warming my 'Helles' beer once, and it actually didn't taste bad.  Though I 
wouldn't do that all the time.

>I will continue with the beer-teaching-lessons!

Please do.  But don't be surprised if, despite the emphasis on drinking in 
this group, Americans have an advanced beer culture afterall.
    - Scott, University of Minnesota
From: serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: which list is official?
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:11:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <1992Nov11.225001.15973@brtph560.bnr.ca> mrmidi@aol.com (Tony Rice) writes:

>Hi folks,

>I'm a little pissed.  My newserver has been down for a week so I just saw
>Geoffrey Woods' post with his version of the brewpub list.  Maybe I'm being
>too touchy, but I have spent a lot of time researching the first list and
>compiling the corrections from the 100s of email messages I have recieved for
>the followup lists.

>alt.beer readers asked for someone to compile a list, so I did.  I asked for
>input, which I got.  I changed the list to reflect your wishes.  Then this
>guy posts *HIS* version.          

>Was I so far off of what people wanted in a list that this was necessary?
>If so, I didnt know and I'm sorry.

>He doesnt want contract brews in there.  I remove them from my list as I find
>them.  He doesnt want the big boys in there.  90% of the response I get from
>people on this subject is, "leave them in, its good for comparison" and "now
>I know where I can take tours"

>Please follow up and let me know if I'm off base here.  Which format do you 
>like better?  His format looks easier to maintain but several alt.beer readers
>have requested the format I've been using.

Your concerns have merit -- whenever someone puts a lot of work into a 
project there is some ego involved.  But as a reader I like having both 
lists available to compare and contrast.  I don't know if it's necessary to 
have one "official" list or not, and I'm sure that no one will have a 
diminished view of your efforts due to the fact someone else posted a list.  
I doubt his intention was to somehow diminish you, and you can still be 
proud of the work you did.  If anything, you should feel honored and 
complimented that your efforts touched off such a response.  It's hard to 
let the ego go, of course, but remember that we're all serving the higher 
good: BEER
From: v057p7nk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew W Korbut)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Good beer in Toronto
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov4.152225.8615@ac.dal.ca>, ech@ac.dal.ca writes...
> 
>	Beers to try:
>	Conners Ale + Best Bitter, the stout is good, but a little raunchy.

   Agreed.  I like Conners products a lot.  Never tried the stout though,
I prefer the Ale.

>	Creemore Springs

   Yup.  A delicate lager, but quite nice.

>	Gritstone
>	Eisbock
>Many others are good too, but I cannot remember specifics.  I did see a Maple
>Wheat beer which looked good, but was a little expensive.  Anyone tried this?

Gritstone, Eisbock, and the Maple Wheat come from Niagara Falls Brewing Co.
I go there as often as possible.  Even if you factor in GST and stuff, the
current exchange rate makes a case of Gritstone Brown Ale about $25 US, or
roughly what I would pay for Sam Adams.

And I think Gritstone is much better (flameproof suit on).  Especially if you
are a Newcastle or Old Peculier fan.

Now, as for the Maple Wheat... it's really really good.  Can't help feeling
that I should be having it with a stack of pancakes though.  It has just a
smack of Maple flavor when chilled, but it becomes more pronounced as it
warms.  It's also an 8.5% brew.  That's probably why it costs so much... a
22 oz runs $5.95 CAN at the brewery (or drink free if you take the tour!).

Keep in mind that at 8.5%, it's stronger than the 8.0% Eisbock.  It's worth
it as a treat from time to time, but Gritstone is the beer I want to have
every night.

 Dr.D [The Devils Advocate]        "Drinkin' & women & guns don't mix..."
 v057p7nk@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
 awkorbut@acsu.buffalo.edu                      - Mark Arm
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: hsu@pix.com (Dagwood Splits the Atom)
Subject: Re: Nighttrane
Organization: Pix -- The company with no adult supervision.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:16:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.025139.22329@midway.uchicago.edu> wag5@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Anybody out there have any opinion about 'Nighttrain?'

Robust, huge body, with undertones of vanilla, cherries(?), cabbage,
applecores, leather, garment dye, and bilirubin.  A devastating attack
gives way to a long, complex finish full of smoke and incarceration.
Aficionados of the lighter-bodied Mad Dog 20/20 will find the chewiness
a welcome dietary supplement.  We scored the 1990 private label bottling,
in a plain crescent-shaped steel bottle, a 91 (undefeated, 84 KO).

Best served neat, with a splash of Windex and some newspaper.

-dave

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From: serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: GOOD BEER
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:20:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <92316.175608AJS149@psuvm.psu.edu> <AJS149@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>I WANT TO KNOW A REALLY GOOD BEER???? ANYONE????????

Erdinger Weiss, or if its not available in your area, any German Weissbier 
will probably be a good experience.  Make sure you try "Hefe-Weizen" (with 
yeast) and not Kristall.  Kristall isn't bad, but Hefe is better.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: twlane@nyx.cs.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: Belgian beers are best!!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:11:11 GMT

Belushi <affouj@rpi.edu> writes:

>briard@dxcern.cern.ch ()) writes:


>>In article <deboer.721397351@lri.jur.uva.nl>, Peter de Boer writes:

>>>Let's stick to the trappist beers for a moment. There are  few in 
>>>Belgium : Westmalle, Leffe, Orval, Chimay, Rochefort and Duvel.

>>Duvel and Leffe are definitely NOT trappist beers. Trappists are priest
 (kind
>>of monks) who make beer in abbey (Chimay, Rochefort, Orval,...). Their 
eer is
>>commonly called trappist too. But Duvel and Leffe are not (even if Leff
 was
>>first brewed in an Abbey near Dinant (Province of Namur), but it isn't 
nymore).

>>Francois Briard

>>Belgian Technical Student at CERN (European Lab for Particle Physics)


>hi.  To Be specific, the Duvel is actually classified as a Malt Liquor, 
hough
>it has the appearance of almost a pilsner, and is rather high in alcohol
c 
>content.  The Orval BTW is quite good, as it is triple fermented, unfilt
red
>and bottle conditioned.  The Chimay is excellent too, especially the Gra
d
>Reserve, though rather costly.  

>Just my $0.02

>-jason

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"Malt Liquor" is an artificial classification devised in the U.S. to
designate a beer with more than a certain amount of alcohal.  Other than
that the term is devoid of meaning.  All malt liquors are beer.

Todd Lane "life is too short to drink bad beer"

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald)
Subject: Re: *beer can collecting???*
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:12:50 GMT

In article <92313.162156JYABLON@auvm.american.edu> <JYABLON@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>Can anyone help to explain why the hobby of beer can collecting
>has faded????????

It hasn't, at least with some of us "old" dudes.  My collection (2500 care-
fully culled cans) is in storage, but I'm in the process of trying to trade
off 'bout 1500 cans from the last 20 years or so for a relatively few old
cans in nice shape...cheers!

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From: ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu (Arthur Delano)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Nighttrane
Date: 13 Nov 1992 03:43:27 GMT
Organization: finchhaus
NNTP-Posting-Host: helen.oit.itd.umich.edu

found in alt.beer:

In article <BxKDEw.zt@pix.com> hsu@pix.com (Dagwood Splits the Atom) writes:
]In article <1992Nov10.025139.22329@midway.uchicago.edu> wag5@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
]>Anybody out there have any opinion about 'Nighttrain?'
]
]Robust, huge body, with undertones of vanilla, cherries(?), cabbage,
]applecores, leather, garment dye, and bilirubin.  A devastating attack
]gives way to a long, complex finish full of smoke and incarceration.
]Aficionados of the lighter-bodied Mad Dog 20/20 will find the chewiness
]a welcome dietary supplement.  We scored the 1990 private label bottling,
]in a plain crescent-shaped steel bottle, a 91 (undefeated, 84 KO).
]
]Best served neat, with a splash of Windex and some newspaper.

this is my favorite post of the month.

AjD
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From: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu (Roger Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Twin Cities Micros
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:45:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH.
Reply-To: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.ins.cwru.edu

I'm sure others closer to the Cities will reply but...

Micros in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area include:

Summit Pale Ale, Summit Porter and maybe Summit Winter Ale

James Page beers (maybe 2 kinds available now...).

MAYBE something from Capital in Wisconsin.

These are all fine brews. Summit Porter is extra fine.

Cheers,
Roger
PS My favorite beer store is Surdyk's on 2nd in St. Paul. The folks in 
the Cities will know better.
-- 

Roger Brown, x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu
Extension Communications, Iowa State University, Ames Iowa. 
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jornaa@fdh.hsf.no (Joern Aasland)
Subject: Norwegian BEER
Organization: Finnmark College
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:04:28 GMT
Reply-To: jornaa@fdh.hsf.no

Hello!

I am a Norwegian, who wants to know if there are anybody around the world that has tasted the Norwegian beer "Mack". Mack's brewery is the mostnorth in the world.
It's also told that it was the first beer on the Northpole. Coments???

My Norwegian favorite is "RIGNES", Its from OSLO, near my home town.
My all world favorite is the Spanish, "San Miguel", its just perfect.

SKAAL -> Norwegian cheers.

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