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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:25:41 -0500
Reply-To:     "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU>
From:         "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU>
Subject:      Need ideas/NE-NY
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This message is lengthy -

For some time I feel like I've been butting my head against a stone wall.
In trying to trace one line of lineage I can not find the link to the
previous generation.  Am looking for ideas,suggestions for other searching.
The story:

According to the family bible,
        John P. Dye b. RI 1764 m.
        Sallie Rhodes b. 1777
        Place and time of marriage unknown. They had one son,
        Rouse Simmons Dye b. 1802 in DeRuyter NY. He m.
        Ximina Hull (b.1804 in Fabius NY) 1833 and moved to Jefferson Co.NY
        The family is traced from this couple forward.
        John d. 1833.  Sallie died 1840.  Shes does not appear in the 1840
        census for either Madison or Jefferson Co.

To locate parents of John and Sallie I've looked at two different versions of
R. I. vital records, DAR and  other early lineage groups, numerous books
on RI, checked the country historian for DeRuyter, both  when the town was
in Chenango and Co. as well as Madison Co.  My research on the Dye famiy
begins with a pilgrim line ca 1650 forward to the family of
Daniel and Martha Nichols Dye m.1766.  The couple had 7 children including
a John P. Apparently 3 or 4 of the couple's children left RI since no
records on them are found while there  are records of other children.
Also these names appear in central NY census records.

>For the Rhodes family, a Walter Rhodes married Mary Hill in 1758.  They
had 13 children. A Mary Hill is reported to have died in 1787.  Also a
Walter Rhodes died in the 1780's leaving a wife Mary.

>A Rhodes family, following the death of the mother, including 13
children moved to New Berlin, NY a village currently in Chenango Co. but at
that time in Montgomery Co.

>From the Chenango historian I was given information that John P. married
Sallie Rhodes, had several children and moved to western NY.

>From the DAR I learned both Daniel Dye and Walter Rhodes served in the
Rev. War.  Walter was a sergeant in RI and Daniel a soldier in Ct.
Also that John P. Dye married Sallie Rhodes, had a son Nathan.  Nathan's
daughter Harriet claimed lineage through John P. to Daniel and not through
Walter.

>>Now if you're not any more confused than I, it seems odd that there
could be this many couples with the same name.

Hopefully, someone will have some ideas  on where else to search.  I do
plan to write to the National Archives for information.

Does anyone know who could use land grants soldiers received for their
service during the REv. War.  There was a section of Madison Co. called
the Holland Land grant, very long and narrow and small.  It includes the
area where these families lived. Is there any way to find out who was
awarded land.

>To add one last piece of confusion, there was a Rhodes family in
Rensaleer Co. many with the names of Walter's children.

BUT!! Walter Rhodes does not appear in any NY census, and he died in 1813.
      John also does not appear in a NY census until 1820.

Thanks for reading through all this and sending ideas.
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