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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:13:11 EST
From:         Wayne Smith <WTS@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CP mod for retrieve buffer?

Jim Weissman writes..
>We just upgraded to ESA and were unhappy to discover the
>"improvement" in CP that only saves the last 7 commands in the
>retrieve buffer regardless of the length of the command.  ...

ESA Release 2 "configuration" enhancements address this without mods.

In the CONFIG file, on the FEATURES RETRIEVE statement you may specify
the default and maximum number of retrieve buffers for the system.  The
default for each is 7.

Wayne T. Smith, CCP
Systems Group - CAPS              BITNET/CREN:  wts@maine
University of Maine System        internet:     wts@maine.maine.edu
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:38:26 CST
From:         Ladonna Hageman <LADONNA@SDNET.BITNET>
Subject:      CMS Utilities Feature

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request about ording CMS Utilities
Feature for VM/ESA 370 feature.  Here's the scoop...
The "feature" isn't available for 370 feature.  I'm using the IPF that
I had installed on our VM/SP 5 system.  As I understand it, the CMS
Utilities Feature does have to be ordered as a seperate feature code
for VM/ESA ESA.

Thanks again!!
-Ladonna
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:56:00 EST
From:         "George_J.Haddad" <GEORGEH@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Class D CP QUERY PRT

Don't know about ESA 1.0 but looks like our ESA 1.1 and XASP2.1
both have the same order (USERFORM followed by OPERFORM)


>         Did the order of  OPERFORM and USERFORM  change from XA to ESA?
>
>  Rick Troth <troth@ricevm1.rice.edu> ---- Rice University,  Information Syst
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:50:25 +0200
From:         "Lawrence S. Kalman" <VSLAWR@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject:      Re: GONE EXEC

On Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:34:38 EDT Jeanne Ilchuk said:
>Where can I get the GONE EXEC and related modules ?

Request it from the author, Hank Nussbacher <HANK@BARILVM>.

- Lawrence
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:26:11 EST
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From:         Allan Bazinet <ALB@CELIO.UVM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: GTMON3 for ESA?
Comments: To: VMESA-L@UAFSYSB.bitnet

A few sites have reported success with my patched version of GTMON
for ESA 1.1.  It may be obtained from uvmvm.uvm.edu on anonymous.192.
The full source distribution, a module, and a VMARC containing the
whole works is available.  Be sure to get and read the file READ 1ST
before transferring anything else.

Caveat:  This version works just fine on our ESA 1.1, service level
102 (9202) 9221-170, and on a number of other systems, apparently.
I don't know if it will work on your system.  In particular, it'd be
nice if someone were to test it on a multiprocessor and get back to
me with the results.

Prime time for uvmvm is between 0900-1400 hours E.S.T.; please hit it
outside of this time window if at all possible.

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:00:36 EST
From:         "Steven P. Roder" <TKSSTEVE@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CP mod for retrieve buffer?
              12 Jan 1993 19:48:00 GMT from <0005134379@MCIMAIL.COM>

On Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:48:00 GMT Failure Analysis Associates said:
>We just upgraded to ESA and were unhappy to discover the
>"improvement" in CP that only saves the last 7 commands in the
>retrieve buffer regardless of the length of the command.  I
>vaguely recall some discussion on the list about this subject not
>too long ago.  I got the impression that there is a mod
>circulating that will re-implement the old-fashioned method of
>maintaining a buffer with variable length commands.
>
We run with a mod to HCPPFK that simply increases the number of command
that are saved.  I set it to 20.  Here it is:

./ R 02642760          $ 2642780 20                   04/15/92 14:54:21
MAXRTV   EQU   20            Max number of input lines saved        UB5 02642760
This is on ESA 1.1.1


Steve Roder
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:06:08 PST
From:         Steve Roberts <SBR@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CMS Utilities Feature

On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:38:26 CST Ladonna Hageman said:
>Thanks to everyone who responded to my request about ording CMS Utilities
>Feature for VM/ESA 370 feature.  Here's the scoop...
>The "feature" isn't available for 370 feature.  I'm using the IPF that
>I had installed on our VM/SP 5 system.  As I understand it, the CMS
>Utilities Feature does have to be ordered as a seperate feature code
>for VM/ESA ESA.

Yes, CMS Utilities is a separate feature, and it costs money unless you're
on HESC.  Please, IBM, put it in the base CMS, so software developers know
that everyone has it!!!

Ladonna, you might want to make sure you're running IPF V2R3, which was
intended for the VM/SP R6 environment, while V2R2 was for SP5.  V2R3 has
SFS-related changes, and maybe others.  Also, you get full source
maintenance with V2R3, whereas V2R2 just shipped base source, and had
OCM service.

Hope this helps,
Steve Roberts
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:13:52 EST
From:         Paul Goodwin <CC100PG@GITVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DIRMAINT

The example you posted (DIRM COPIED 215 to 415 verified) fits the syntax
of the DIRM COPIED command correctly.

Paul Goodwin
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 07:18:21 CST
From:         "Paul Pratte" <PRATTE@UMSLVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      IUCVTRAP and YWAKEUP

Where can I find XA versions of IUCVTRAP and YWAKEUP ?




Thanks.
Paul Pratte
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:27:52 CST
From:         Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BEEP MODULE in XA mode machine

>                                              Unfortunately, the BEEP
>module uses a "370 only" instruction, TIO, and users get operations
>exceptions when it is executed in an XA mode machine.

        Alternately  (not to say that you shouldn't get the XA capable
BEEP),  you could run SIM370XA at GONE startup or even from SYSPROF.
I think it originally came from Cornell;  not sure who authored it.
I've sent you the version that I have.

        FYI:  we just converted to VM/ESA production,  and I noticed
a particular SVM  (it was LPDAEMON when running TeXrox)  ABENDing.
TeXrox was covered by SIM370XA when we were on XA CP and the VM was
in XA mode.  The machine in question was in ESA mode,  but TIO and
friends are  (if I understand things right)  still the same.
So I don't know if my recent trouble was due to SIM370XA no longer
working or not.   (SVM now has MACHINE 370 in its CP Dir entry)

Rick Troth <troth@ricevm1.rice.edu>,  Rice University,  Information Systems
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:14:30 -0600
From:         "Martin J. Doyle (215) 752-2296" <MBDMD@ROHVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      BEEP MODULE in XA mode machine
Comments: To: vmesa-l@uafsysb.bitnet

Does anyone have a copy of the BEEP MODULE, originally developed by John
Alvord, which works in an XA mode machine?  We'd like to convert users
from 370 mode to XA mode virtual machines.  Quite a few of our users use
the GONE system which calls the BEEP module.  Unfortunately, the BEEP
module uses a "370 only" instruction, TIO, and users get operations
exceptions when it is executed in an XA mode machine.

Thanks,


Martin J. Doyle
VM Systems Programming Contractor
Rohm and Haas Company
Philadelphia,  Pennsylvania
MBDMD@ROHVM1
(215) 592-6865 (Day)
(215) 752-2296 (Evening)
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:26:26 EST
From:         "Steven P. Roder" <TKSSTEVE@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dirmaint 4.0

On Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:46:10 ECT MARY MASON said:
>doing a CMS format) and the following is displayed:
>           Label  vdev  m   stat  cyl.....Files...
>           SCRTCH 199   A   R/W    1        0
>                                   *
>                                   ^
>                                   ^
>              This is what I need light shed on...why 1 cyl?

Most likely, the first cylinder of your 10 cylinder area was previously
defined as a 1 cylinder minidisk.

>              Is it because maybe smaller mdisks like a 1 cyl
>              and a 9 cyl use to make up this free 10 cyl I

The remaining 9 cylinders could each have been 9 1-cylinder minidisks too.
You'd have to move your definition to begin at each of the 9 real cylinder
addresses to find out, or look at some old diskmaps.

>              now have and when each smaller mdisk was deleted
>              Dirmaint cleaned them but CMS formatting doesn't
>              make it into one continuous 10 cyl free space?

I don't know dirmaint, but VMSECURE will, upon removing a minidisk, reformat
it with a label of ERASED.  If you format the area at definition time, this
will not happen.  DIRMAINT ought to have an option to do this.  If the
"scratching" of the previous minidisk did not erase/format the area, and the
defining of the new disk does not format it, then you would have access to
the previous user's data.

Hope this is clear, and helps.


Steve Roder
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:27:14 EST
From:         Joseph Ryan <JRYAN@PSUHMC.BITNET>
Subject:      Anyone Know who makes KEDIT

I'm looking for the vendor of KEDIT, a PC editor that, I believe, mimics
XEDIT. If you know who makes please let me know. If you know of any other
good PC based editors, I'd be interested in that too.

Thanks.

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 JRYAN at PSUHMC
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:55:17 CST
From: Roger Deschner <U52983@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Subject: Re: IUCVTRAP and YWAKEUP

XA versions of IUCVTRAP abound. As for WAKEUP, just pay IBM for it. In
VM/XA, it is part of the "IPF/XA Utilities Set". In VM/ESA, it is
called "CMS Utilities". They're inexpensive (free if you've already
paid for HESC) and IBM maintains them, and makes them work on each new
release of VM, for you. We run IBM's WAKEUP under VM/ESA 1.1 and it
works just fine. WAKEUP, by the way, will do the job of IUCVTRAP for you.
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:00:09 CST
From:         Joe Moore <CC19@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      APPC with Netware for SAA with or without Windows

> To make sense of the following you would need to know that I work for IBM and
> am involved in APPC on the mainframe and the PS/2. However, the general
> principles range far beyond this restricted set because of the wide number of

Since it is my understanding that Netware for SAA is available in a
blue box, I think this is an appropriate question for you.  Since
others may be interested, I'm sending it to the list.

How can I use APPC with NW4SAA communicating with 2 CICS systems?
Both CICS systems are on IBM mainframes (surprise, surprise)
connected through VTAM.  What software is necessary on both ends to
allow this?  I'm interested in both driving applications that are
heavily coded as 3270 applications (you know, big monolithic type
apps) and more peer-to-peer stuff.  Am I asking the right questions?
Am I in the right world?

Joe Moore
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:00:48 CST
From:         Brent Stilley <UCCXBRS@OSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: APPC

On Sun, 3 Jan 1993 12:20:05 EST Steve Joyce said:
>Hi.  I am from APPC Market Enablement.  We are a group in IBM that has
>the task of making APPC, APPN and CPI-C as successful as possible.  So
>far, most of our support has been through our offering on CompuServe
>and the APPC CFORUM on the OS/2 bulletin boards.  We can offer two
>things:
>
>  - question and answer support (this is easy here)
>
>  - samples, articles, programs, ...
>
>So....
>
>What kind of things would you like to see here?  One thing we have on
>our IBM VM systems is a forum called APPCNEWS.  It includes summaries
>of news items we find in the trade press about APPC.  Would you like to
>see those?  I can also put out information about APPC classes and
>conferences that we are holding.  (Our next APPC Developer's Conference
>is in July in Boston!!)

Do you have anything to do with the PWSCS 'flavor' of CPI-C?  We are going to
implement the new VM version of DFDSM (the follow-on of Workstation Data Save)
as soon as it goes GA.  We anticipate putting over 600 copies of PWSCS on
DOS and Windows workstations.  We thought we were going to have to by another
OS/2 machine with a 370 channel card to connect to ISFC in VM/ESA.  But we
just noticed that LANRES R2 (which we have running on one channel attached
PS/2 Model 95), provides some kind of PWSCS domain controller function. We
would like NOT to have to channel attach another PS/2.  We are excited about
the possibilities of having PWSCS on ALL our DOS & Windows workstations.  The
push to go client/server is getting strong.

Brent Stilley,  Oklahoma State University, 113 Math Sciences, Stillwater, 74078
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