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Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Do catastrophic events "speed up" evolution ?
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:53:03 GMT
Organization: HTE

In article <1992Nov3.140722.5196@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, muttiah@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Ranjan S Muttiah) writes:


^>>Check out Velikovsky's EARTH IN UPHEAVAL, the chapter titled Catastrophic
^>>Evolution.  It's all spelled out, and much of what you mention is covered.

^>Ted, did V. study the fossil records to show this ?  We know that 
^>extinctions coincide with a lot of these events (eh, not the orbital jumps
^>of V. :-).  I'd like to know whether the same can be said about the 
^>diversity (i.e., formation) of species.

Extinction and formation of new species are flip sides of the same coin;
it turns out that neither would happen to anything remotely the extent 
which they actually have, if at all, other than at times of immense
catastrophes and the ensuing crises.

Velikovsky presents several hundred pages of geological evidence for past
global catastrophe along with a novel reinterpretation of evolution in
EARTH IN UPHEAVAL.  

Standard geology has its own explainations for many of the same phenomena,
it's just that they don't really work, and that they are completely at variance
with what I would call the historical record and/or the record of man's 
early writings regarding catastrophe.

Given Velikovsky's scenarios, the historical record, the geological record,
and what we see in the case of Venus all hang together and tell the same
story.  Given standard theory, you need special explainations at every
step of the way.



^Well, let me ramble on since everyone else is saying less interesting
^things on this newsgroup as per it relates to evolution :-).  Do we know
^for sure that the fossil records a few millions years before and after the 65M 
^year old event that lead to the demise of the dinosaurs do really show
^"extinctions ?" It may be that a few of the species living at that time were 
^affected by the impact of the meteorite and then what followed thereafter 
^was more competition between species leading to more variability in the 
^species 
^database.  In other words, the fossil records close to either catastrophic 
^events or to the demise of a very small number of species would show the 
^wgreatest variability in species (and therefore in the fossil record).
^
^All of this is amateur lingo of course, and I don't have any references
^in hand to make it more precise.

Several things to note:

The changes between geological eras and the animal and plant species common
to each were, according to all evidence, always sudden.  Standard theory
will claim that sudden means a period of a million years or so between two
longer periods.

This claim, along with the lengths of years of the various ages themselves
are all based upon axioms of uniformity.  Once you begin to understand the
reality of catastrophism, these dating schemes all go bye-bye.

Dinosaurs and other large creatures were always most susceptible to extinction
at times of catastrophe, being least able to hide or get to high ground etc.

Beyond that, dinosaurs and large "ice-age" megafauna would not have survived
the changes in perceived gravity which accompanied the slow collapse of the
old celestial order.  Nothing much larger than a very large elephant would
have any way of lifting its own weight off the ground in our present world
as I have demonstrated repeatedly.

EARTH IN UPHEAVAL can still be found and purchased.  Despite the best efforts
of American academia, 1950 was beyond the point at which books could
actually be banned for heresy.


-- 
Ted Holden
HTE

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