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From: hoffmann@infopls.chi.il.us (Robert Hoffmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: [WCW] Clash of Champions 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 21:55:35 CST
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RC>   Here's the lineup for the Nov. 18 Clash of Champions as announced on the
RC>   WCW Main Event:

RC>       - Brad Armstrong v. Brian Pillman

AGAIN????  Without a light-heavy title to feud over, this is getting
boring.

RC>       - "Ghetto Odds Match" {2 versus 3}
RC>         Ron Simmons & Robbie Walker v. Barbarian & Tony Atlas & Cactus Jack

Sheesh... so how badly is Robbie (don't call me Johnnie) Walker
going to be trashed in this match?  What a joke...

RC>       - Erik Watts & Kunsuke Sasaki v. Arn Anderson & Bobby Eaton

Of course, Sasaki will miss his flight from Japan... leaving Watts
alone against the Midnight Horsemen, who will lose when Watts puts
the STF on both men at the same time.  Somehow.  Sheesh...

RC>       - Semifinal King of Cable Tournament
RC>         Sting v. Rick Rude

"Your winner.... THIS IS STING!"  Aargh.  I'll just be curious to
see if they have Rude's job be a submission to the
Scorpion/Sharpshooter, or something else.

RC>       - 3 rounds of Boxing
RC>         Johnny B. Badd v. Scotty Flamingo

Winner gets Evander Holyfield.  Sheesh... if they DON'T book this,
Badd wins in about 40 seconds.  If they DO book this, God help us
all...

RC>       - World Tag Team Titles
RC>         Dustin Rhodes & Barry Windham v. Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas

Look... it's Barry's heel turn.  Finally.

RC>       - "Clash of the Sexes"
RC>         Paul E. Dangerously v. Madusa

Look... it's Madusa's face turn.  Finally.  If Rude does the job for
Sting (cleanly), and Madusa beats Paulie, then the stage is set for
Rude and Madusa to turn face (and for Vader to challenge Rude,
claiming that because he beat Koloff, he's the rightful US Champ).
Down the line, Rude could also re-start his feud with Jake
Roberts...

RC>       also the drawing for the first tag match at Starrcade.

Look... it's Eric Bischoff, mumbling.  Again.  No, seriously, this
could be something like Sting & Jake Roberts vs. Brian Pillman &
Shane Douglas or some such promotable mess...
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From: bolt@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brandon Scott Coley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Backlund's Push in WWF (WAS Re: News from GEnie)
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:01:13 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1689B9B0B.MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU> MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice) writes:
>Here's the way I see it:  Vince signed Bob Backlund since he needed
>someone around which to center the promotion in Hogan's absence.  Since
>Backlund hasn't drawn much heat at the house shows, Vince has shifted
>his attention to building up Bret Hart.  But what Vince really wants is
>for Hogan to come back.  All this is going on because Vince doesn't know
>what to do without a strong central character; he spent so much time
>pushing Hogan that he's lost without him.

Quite frankly, I don't think Vince knows what he's doing at all.  Think about 
it.  Pretty much all of the recent events in the WWF have been last minute 
decisions - sometimes (in the case of the Hart title win) last second.  There
used to be a time when I would wonder what Vince's long term plans were, now
I figure his long terms plans are to sit on his ass and pick his nose as he
watches the Pusswhackers wrestle the Beverly Lovers AGAIN!

Mind you, he can do no worse than Watts.  :)

-Bolt-
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: sid vicious
Date: 4 Nov 92 17:29:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

DF-R>In article <3600.137.uupcb@ssr.com>, dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Sc
    > writes:
    >> RW>can anybody tell me what happened to sid vicious?
    >>
    >> Sid left, again, during softball season.  The guy has a major problem
    >> with his priorities.

DF-R>So you are trying to say Sid left the WWF for softball season.  Can anybod
    >validate this?

I wasn't trying to say anything.  I was saying it.  That was one of the
reason, along with his desire to substitute Bruno Lauer's urine for his
own during a steroid test.

As for validating, trust me. If I only have heard something, I will post
that it is rumor not fact.  Sid has left at least three different times,
in different companies, to play softball.
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Buzz Sawyer
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:46:41 GMT

In <Ueyfjj600iV1Q3ktZr@andrew.cmu.edu> Gary James Patalsky <gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:


>No one answered this question:  when and how did Buzz Sawyer die?

According to PWI Weekly, Buzz Sawyer died Feb 7/92 in Sacrimento
California. He was found unconscious in his apartment by his
girlfriend. No cause of death was given then, nor since then, as far
as I know.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:55:32 EST
From: <JRW123@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WWF Real Clown

    For nearly two weeks I had watched Prime Time and is wondering why this
clown appear to be the highlight of the match.  The camera is focused on him
and the commentators point him out to us humaniods.  My question is what impact
this character will have in the WWF.  Please note the last time a character was
following the WWF in the audience was Hillbilly Jim who went on to a "great"
career in the WWF.  Yes Damien Demanto do appear to be Mondo Kleen.  It was PWI
or one of their sister publications that said within the past year that he may
move to a major federation.  I believe the Steiners may also leave WCW for the
WWF,if what I know is true they would want to be known as a better team than
the Road Warriors.  The Legion of Doom is in limbo,one of the few teams that
get me move my emotions and get the blood flowing.  What I read that Crush did
some taging with Animal in Europe.  It may be they will form a tag team in the
WWF,because Crush should know in order to get ahead in the WWF you need a good
grimmick or form a good tag team.
From: v059kzrj@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Seth Reichelson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: mad dog
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:16:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     how did mad dog buzz sawyer die?
       I was a big fan of his when he han the piper fued
From: mk009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ([Matt Kaufman])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF question
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:19:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov10.060950.150887@zeus.calpoly.edu> cgautier@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kit "Psycho" Gautier) writes:


>Okay, okay...here it is...the old "who the hell is this guy??" question for
>anyone out there.

>1)  Max Moon
>2)  Damien Demento
	I belive Demento is Mondo Kleen, but I'm not sure.

>(both are WWF wrestlers)

>Thanx,

>  -- The Kitster

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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Re: [WCW] Clash of Champions
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:54:58 GMT

In article <BxGEpq.55u@acsu.buffalo.edu> v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M
 Chmiel) writes:
>In article <9327@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Contice
llo) writes...
>>
>>   Here's the lineup for the Nov. 18 Clash of Champions as announced on the
>>   WCW Main Event:
>>
>>       - Brad Armstrong v. Brian Pillman
>>       - "Ghetto Odds Match" {2 versus 3}
>>         Ron Simmons & Robbie Walker v. Barbarian & Tony Atlas & Cactus Jack
>>       - Erik Watts & Kunsuke Sasaki v. Arn Anderson & Bobby Eaton
>>       - Semifinal King of Cable Tournament
>>         Sting v. Rick Rude
>>       - 3 rounds of Boxing
>>         Johnny B. Badd v. Scotty Flamingo
>>       - World Tag Team Titles
>>         Dustin Rhodes & Barry Windham v. Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas
>>       - "Clash of the Sexes"
>>         Paul E. Dangerously v. Madusa
>>       also the drawing for the first tag match at Starrcade.
>>
>>- Rob C.
>
>    WHY? WHY? WHY would you put loser Watts with Sasaki?  It's gotten to the
>point where I expect Erik to have the world title by March.  I don't like to
>wish a career-threatening injury on anyone, but.......
>     The rest of the card looks somewhat weak.  A boxing match?  Is Lou Duva
>coming in to train Flamingo? :) The Paul E. vs. Madusa is interesting in a mil
d
>sort of way, although the outcome is hardly in doubt.  There are at least a
>few matches that have the potential to be good, but we'll see.  Pillman and
>Armstrong could do a **** job if they wanted to (or if Watts wants them to),
>and the tag title match has possibilities.  Other than that, my expectations
>are pretty low.
>
>********************************************
>Eric Chmiel*********************************
>********************************************
























































I absolutely agree about the potential of the Brad Armstrong vs. Brian Pillman 
match.  This could and should be the best WRESTLING match of the card. They 
ruined the last big encounter with Brad's injury and the delay of the junior 
heavyweight tournament.  This match seems too good to be true. Here's hoping 
they let these two wrestle with lots of action and a decent finish; no 
interference from the outside and no cop-out ending! But that's wishful 
thinking with Watts in charge!

Mike G.
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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Money
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:29:51 GMT

The Observer reports that payoffs for middle and bottom of the card WWF 
wrestlers is down to $250 to $500 per show before expenses and medical 
coverage. This is about what WCW is offering as well. This is also certainly 
more then SMW or USWA pays. As good as these two promotions are supposed to be 
they draw about 500 people on a good night.

                                            David Kempster
                                            Fx
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From: cadesjar@lagrange.uwaterloo.ca (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: [WCW] Clash of Champions
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:05:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.173606.27540@data-io.com> jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell) writes:
>
>Curtis, you've just hit on what could be the next great gimmick
>in professional wrestling.
>Dress Erik Watts up as Nepo Man, the defender of and benefactor from
>the family name. He could tag with Dustin Rhodes as the Nepo Men.
>
>Nah, it'd never work. No talent, it's a lame gimmick, no charisma,....

When has that ever stopped them before? (ie. Vince, Cowpie/Runnels)

Although I didn't like Dustin when he came in, he does come across
to me as someone who's willing to work rather than sit on his ass
and give a ho-hum 30-minute resthold for a match. Can't ask for much
more in wrestler (in North America, anyways) than someone willing to
work.

>Why do I have this sick feeling that Dustin and Watts are going to 
>be wearing gold within a year?

This is Dustin's second time around with the gold. What that expression?
"Third time's the charm"?

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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: [WCW] Clash of Champions
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:27:38 GMT

In article <9327@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello) writes:
#
#   Here's the lineup for the Nov. 18 Clash of Champions as announced on the
#   WCW Main Event:
#
#       - Brad Armstrong v. Brian Pillman

This could be the best match of the night. Both are talented and know
how to work. Plus, they've been programmed together before, so they are used
to working with each other.

#       - "Ghetto Odds Match" {2 versus 3}
#         Ron Simmons & Robbie Walker v. Barbarian & Tony Atlas & Cactus Jack

Didn't know Cactus was from from the ghetto. :-)

#       - Erik Watts & Kunsuke Sasaki v. Arn Anderson & Bobby Eaton

I wonder whether Anderson or Eaton will do the job for Watts. What a
waste of talent.

#       - Semifinal King of Cable Tournament
#         Sting v. Rick Rude
#       - 3 rounds of Boxing
#         Johnny B. Badd v. Scotty Flamingo

Where the hell did this come from? I know that Badd and Flamingo had a
little fight on this weekend's syndies and WCW Sat. Night, but still,
this match is straight out of left field.

#       - World Tag Team Titles
#         Dustin Rhodes & Barry Windham v. Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas

Should be a good match. Will we see a Windham heel turn here?

#       - "Clash of the Sexes"
#         Paul E. Dangerously v. Madusa

I wonder if they will handle this with all the class that they handled
the Missy/Madusa bikini contest?


-- 
Cal...                        "Mountain Dew and doughnuts:
                               because breakfast is the most
jewell@Data-IO.COM             important meal of the day."
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From: naults@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: watts interview on hotline
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:42:03 GMT

Did anyone call wcw hotline Tues 11/10--taped interview with watts
gist was 1) wcw is "NOT on a path to destruction" direct quote from watts
2) fans are tired of older wrestlers who have been working with wcw a long time
and are "looking forward" to new, younger talent (such as cowpattie eric watts
no doubt) 3) he intends that wcw will either break even or make a profit by end
of 1993.
In general he came across as a defensive, whiny brat who's job may be in
jeopardy. Interview lasted @3 minute--faded out due to "technical difficulties"
according to steve beverly.
Does anyone know if rest of this "interview" will be aired or was it
deliberately "faded out" because this supposed expert sounded ridiculous?

Comments welcome.
				Sue Nault
	sorry, no fancy tag line
From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Turner's address
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:45:39 EST
Organization: The State of CT.... NOT!

Ok, we talked about sending our thoughts to Ted Turner. Here's his address:

Ted Turner
Turner Broadcasting Systems
1 CNN Center
100 International Blvd.
Atlanta, GA 30303

I'll post my letter once I've finished it. 

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From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Entrance Music
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:55:07 GMT
Organization: Eastern Michigan University


While were on the subject of japanese ring enterance music, does anyone
know if the Tiger Mask music is available commercially?  I don't know
what Kanemoto is using now, but the bit they played during Misawa's
intro as Tiger Mask (can't remember what Sayama used..) was excellant IMHO...

-- 
Dominic Macika

"You've got to bleed for the dancer"
			-Black Sabbath
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Will LOD Get Back Together
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:58:46 GMT

  Now that Animal has left WWF (I base this on Herb's TidBits), do y'all
think he will get back together with Hawk?  People have said there is some
dissention (Ooooooh mark word) between them.  But I think they return as a team
to WCW based on a few facts:

  Why they would get back together:

   They are more of a draw as a team than singles.

  Why they would go to WCW:

   Animal has a family and would probably want the steady income of a large
promotion rather than sporadic appearances in the independants.

  Watts will need some tag teams and give them the $1,000 a shot offered to the
Steiner brothers.

  No mats don't bother the Roadies cause they only brawl on the outside.

  The Roadies style matches Watts promise of "more wrestling."

  
 Flaws in this reasoning:

   Both men are probably well off and could decide it's not worth it to work
for Watts or team together if they don't really like each other.

  I'm sure they could get on offer from Japan.

  They may not like how Watts is treating everyone else in WCW and would hate
towin this belts, only to lose them in a handicap match to Eric :)
From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling Relations  --  November 1992
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:56:25 GMT
Organization: Eastern Michigan University

In article <1992Nov4.204826.1696@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> fout@achilles.gsfc.nasa.gov writes:
>
>What Samoan is the new Sumo wrestler Vince has?

Kokina Maximus.

>
>How and when di Buzz Sawyer die? 

umm, earlier this year, cause of death escapes me...


-- 
Dominic Macika

"Thank God man cannot yet fly and lay waste the sky as well
as the earth!"
			-Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WCW] Clash of Champions
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:42:22 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling

In article <1992Nov9.182738.11917@data-io.com>, jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal
Jewell) wrote:

> I wonder if they will handle this with all the class that they handled
> the Missy/Madusa bikini contest?

I missed that one when it happened, and never heard anything about it? 
What did they do?

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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Lethal Lottery Drawing at CoC
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:56:34 GMT

  SInce there will be a drawing for the first two teams at Starcade, they
should go all out.  Make it Steiner vs Steiner.  Starcade is still in 1992,
so it will be on the Steiners contract, even if Rick is injured, have him not
show or find a replacement, but the thought of Rick and Scott on opposing
teams should be enough to boost PPV sales.

  Problem is who to pick as partners (read: the ones who do the job :)

		Fippster 6
From: M.A.Pye@bradford.ac.uk (Michael Pye)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
Subject: UK basketball
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:33:47 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91756349@ccw310


I was just wondering... Does anyone in the UK read this group ?
I love basketball but over here in the UK it just isn't a popular
sport. I get to see the American games on a satellite TV channel,
but basketball coverage by regular TV is non-existent over here.

Does anyone know where I can get posters of teams or individuals
(eg. Barkley, Jordan) this side of the atlantic ? Any other info
regarding basketball in the UK will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Mike...
University of Bradford
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
From: chem3u@jetson.uh.edu (Benoit Soucaze-Guillous)
Subject: European Cups
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  Korac Cup, Cup of the Champions
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:25:00 GMT


Hi there,

I thought that somebody posted the results of the first round of the European 
Cups.  As the second game is played, could you please post the result sometime
this week ?
It will avoid me to wait two or three weeks to get the results by the newspaper
(L'Equipe)
Thanks in advance.

Benoit Soucaze-Guillous

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From: petsch@sylt.informatik.uni-kl.de (Petsch Wolfram - PA Meybrink)
Subject: Re: Officials
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, W-Germany
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:54:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.142613.6067@cci632.cci.com> dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis Joyce) writes:
>In article <1992Oct30.144653.1632@ericsson.se> etxbyg@ufsa.ericsson.se writes:
>>	Yes there are. I've already answered by mail to Mike but I'll post here
>>too. As I've told Mike already I'm a Swedish official and here in Sweden we use
>>(as you in Canada, Greg) the FIBA rules.

>But I don't like some others:
>
>	Goaltending is legal after the ball hits the cylinder
>			- Only thing this does is give worthless 7' stiffs
>			  a job (swiping the ball off the cylinder)
>
>	The Three Point line
>			- This is too close for pro basketball
Yes for pro basketball. But the FIBA rules have to fit for every
player. This means also for nonpros (like I am) and women small
children ... 

>			- The NCAA should adopt that distance for
>			  its league but the NBA distance makes it worthy
>			  of three points
>	
>	Being allowed to inbound the ball w/o the ref checking it 
>			- This one I like and I don't like
>			- It does make it little more uptempo
>			  but IMHO it also is not necessary.
>			  It looks chaotic to me sometimes
>			  of course I am not used to it

The NBA rules are made specific for professionals men players.
Sometimes it is impossible to adopte this rules for nonpros or women
or children. FIBA says 30 sek NBA 24 sek. 

I am a nonpro player, referee, choach and sometimes official in
turnaments here at my univerity.

		Gruss Wolfram




-- 
petsch@sylt.informatik.uni-kl.de (Wolfram Petsch)
From: cmh003@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Yannis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
Subject: FIBA basketball
Summary: European league
Keywords: PAOK - GREECE
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:00:09 GMT
Organization: Coventry University


          Last Thursday's Result :

	            PAOK Thessalonika - Limoges (France) = 67 - 57


		    Great Win for PAOK ...



		    
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