HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
To: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
	<1993Jan24.002306.20388@wam.umd.edu>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:48:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.002306.20388@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
   In article <1993Jan23.224301.25461@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
   >In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
           [article text mostly deleted]

   >>Q. Is DPS a standard?
   >>
   >>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
   >>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
   >>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
   >         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   >
   >What about NeXT??  Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
   >were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon.  Boy are they ever feeling the heat!


           No conspiracy, probably.  NeXT is not a major UNIX platform 
           vendor in the same league (i.e., machines shipped) as the others
           named.  Data General, NeXT and so on are all covered by "etc."

That is just not so. According to the most recent statistics which
I've seen there are three major workstation vendors (Sun, HP and DEC,
in that order) which are followed by a pack of minor vendors lead in
unit sales by NeXT. Notice that this makes NeXT bigger than three of
the four vendors listed.

        Carl Edman

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From: wisinski@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Dennis Wisinski)
Subject: Re: Expansion dictionary - How?
Reply-To: wisinski@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Dennis Wisinski)
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:00:03 GMT

In article <1jr3r1INN16h@gap.caltech.edu>  
dlisoski@bluff.galcit.caltech.edu (Derek L. Lisoski) writes:
> I am having trouble getting entries in Edit's expansion
> dictionary to expand...although they do show up ok, both
> in the Edit <command>-E window and in the ~/.editdict
> file. Then I am just supposed to type the abbreviation
> and <Esc> or what?
> If I do that it just beeps at me....
> Thanks for any info
> derek
> dlisoski@cco.caltech.edu

You need to enable "Emacs Key Bindings" in the Global section of  
Preferences to get the escape key to work.

--
Dennis Wisinski,   Stanford Linear Accelerator Center      
P.O. Box 4349, MS 97   Stanford, CA 94309
wisinski@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT Mail)
From: dlisoski@bluff.galcit.caltech.edu (Derek L. Lisoski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Expansion dictionary - How?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 09:40:49 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: na
Reply-To: dlisoski@cco.caltech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: bluff.galcit.caltech.edu

I am having trouble getting entries in Edit's expansion dictionary to  
expand...although they do show up ok, both in the Edit <command>-E window and  
in the ~/.editdict file. Then I am just supposed to type the abbreviation and  
<Esc> or what?
If I do that it just beeps at me....
Thanks for any info
derek
dlisoski@cco.caltech.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.misc:24094 comp.sys.next.software:3640
From: davisre@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: NeXT Users' Choice Award Winners 1992 (LONG)
Keywords: NUCA Users' Choice Award 1992 Winner
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:15:59 GMT

In article <Jan.25.20.49.06.1993.22671@gandalf.rutgers.edu> szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:

>Infocom Z-Code Player

	What and where is this?


Rob
-- 
| Robert Davis                                    davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
| "Look up, Hannah.  Look up."                            NeXT Mail accepted
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dnp@phragmen.mit.edu (Dan Port)
Subject: Cheapo 2.88MB floppy disks
Keywords: floppys, disks, cheap, cheap, cheap
Organization: MIT, Department of Mathematics
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:12:10 GMT

I thought it might be of interest to let you know that Cube Route now offers Extended Density 2.88MB floppy disks for less than half the cost of Toshiba disks.  Of course, they also sell the floppy drives that use them! You can reach them at 1-800-CUBE-RTE.  Bug them, they like it.  

(subliminal message: buy buy buy hard drives sex sex sex fnord)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: Getting more space on Sonata.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:55:27 GMT

sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) writes:
> Toby Paterson <paterson@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca> writes:
> Toby> That's not the way it works.  When you double click on the
> Toby> package, it opens up in Installer.  One of the options
> Toby> available there is to list the contents of the package.
> 
> Listing the files' names is useful but names are not the only
> thing one might wish to examine before installing.

What else would you want to see?
Does the Preference setting (in the installer) of:

         When listing a package, show:
          ( )   File names only
          (x)   File names and other information

Give you want you want?

(I'm not being argumentative here, I just wondered if you knew about that  
preference, and if that preference gives you the kind of added information  
that you'd be interested in seeing).

--
Garance Alistair Drosehn     =     gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eronald@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Edmund Ronald)
Subject: CD publishers should fund Sonata!
Keywords: drive jukebox CD oxymoron
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:10:16 GMT

Much of the software on Sonata, eg. 1.0 and 2.0 stuff is of archival
importance. I suggest it should be copied onto a CD, and placed on
a jukebox CD drive. This would also make sure this software was safe
which is essential for those who for some reason run old systems.

Surely, all those CD collection publishers that got their stuff off 
Sonata could spring for a CD drive for the server? Some of my software
has got "freebied" by people from all over the place, including Canon Japan.

I am sure that Canon, would do the honorable thing if approached nicely -
after all they are using this as a marketing tool, and the Japanese
are notorious for going after long-term symbiotic relationships rather
than letting the goose which lays the golden eggs die of starvation.

Edmund.
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From: garylang@netcom.com (Gary Lang)
Subject: Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Keywords: Sun, Display PostScript
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:54:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.224301.25461@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
>>SunSoft is announcing their intention to use Display PostScript
>>today at the X Conference in Boston.  Once again NeXT leads the way!
>>
>>Quoting Sun:
>>
>>
>>
>>SUNSOFT'S WINDOWS DIRECTIONS
>>
>>SunSoft recently entered into an agreement with Adobe 
>>Systems to license the Display PostScript System (DPS) 
>>for Solaris. This message is intended to clarify 
>>SunSoft's OpenWindows directions in light of our 
>>partnership with Adobe and our commitment to MIT's X 
>>Window System. 
>>
>
>>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>>
>>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
>>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
>>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What about NeXT??  Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
>were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon.  Boy are they ever feeling the heat!
>
>
>>--
>>Walter C. Daugherity			Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
>
>Eric
>
>

Well, they were talking about major UNIX vendors and not
technical leaders. Since this is based on market share, 
they were probably right to leave NeXT off the list. If they
were talking about technical leaders, then they wouldn't have
anything to write about because neither Sun nor most of the
companies on that list have done anything to make UNIX
as useful as it is on the NeXT. 


As Glenn Reid likes to say, just my opinion, and your
mileage may vary.

-g
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From: kessler@roses.Stanford.EDU (Will Kessler)
Subject: Video on the NeXT?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:12:41 GMT

Hello NeXTers,

My consulting firm is looking to do video input/output/compression on a NeXT.
Any suggestions on where to start gathering information?  Thanks!

-- 
Will Kessler
kessler@roses.stanford.edu
Rehabilition Research Division
Dept. of Veterans Affairs
3801 Miranda Avenue/153
Palo Alto, CA 93404-1200
(415) 493-5000 x4478 (w/v-mail) FAX (415) 493-4919

Seen on local vending machine:
From: bostrov@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU (Vareck Bostrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Drive drive
Date: 24 Jan 93 01:43:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1jukg7INNanr
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: flop.engr.orst.edu

In article <1993Jan23.194204.15246@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>
>Background: Several people have suggested solving the
>archive server space crunch by asking users to kick in money
>to purchase additional drives for sonata and orst.  I've
>volunteered to collect pledges and to contact Purdue and
>Oregon State to see what they think of the idea.  I'll do
>that at the beginning of next week.  Five people pledged
>money in the first hour, six counting me.  The amounts so
>far are like $10-$20 for each server site.
>

Humm. One of my support buddies told me a while back that he was
busy installing the 1.4 Gig disk that NeXT had donated us because orst
was keeping archives. I wonder if the additional space is 
necessary... but hey, if you want to give us even MORE space...

>Although this seems to be an idea whose time has come,
>please be aware that the universities involved might not be
>as enthusiastic about it as we are.  There are always
>bureaucracies, policy implications, and hidden costs to be
>involved in such enterprises, as well I know, having worked
>at universities for 40 years.
>
Humm, I'm just a student, but one thing that oregon state has never 
said no too is donations.

I just wish we had more NeXTs around here. It's weird going to the
school that has a huge NeXT software archive, and as of now our CS 
department has ONE NeXT (a 68030 with 8MB RAM) - the other one having had
it's RAM stolen out of it by some low life. cs.orst.edu is an HP 9000/375.

Actually, there are quite a few NeXT's around here - all student owned.
Anybody who does programming of and who has used a NeXT seems to like them,
but I haven't seen a single CompSci class yet for NeXT programming..not
surprising considering the one 68030 NeXT. 

- Vareck Bostrom
bostrov@research.cs.orst.edu
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Music Kit location : other things ...
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:06:55 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


Hi all,

	Firstly, thank you to all the people who told me how 
	to get in contact with MIT's computer center.  THANKS.
	
	I am now up to 3.0!!!!! Yeah! I think ... anyway, I can
	play GoldDigger now :)

	Now, next question ... where is the music kit?  I tried
	ccrma.stanford.edu ... but it doesn't take anonymous 
	users.

	Thanks to all in advance ...

	Joel Belog
	nether@wpi.wpi.edu
	NeXTMail O.K.
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Subject: Pls help Mac-guy open NeXT.tiffs!
From: ggale@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:37:59 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu


NeXT's wizards--can you guys help a poor Mac jockey who wants to turn some
of your cool NeXT.tiffs into something his computer can read?? I've got
a WHOLE bunch of converters for graphics for Mac and other stuff, but none
of them can read The Secret Code you guys use.
A gif converson engine, or jpeg or pict or just about anything would be neat
to recommend to me.
Thanks for the help. Please e-mail me at IN%"ggale@vax1.umkc.edu"
if you're got The Knowledge!
George
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman)
Subject: Will NeXT printer work with NS486?
Reply-To: gordie@cyclesoft.com
Organization: Dolphin Software
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:06:43 GMT

Will the standard NeXT printer work with NextStep 486? I don't see why it  
wouldn't but there hasn't been any mention of this one way or the other.

Thanks,

-- 
>>> Gordie Freedman  -> gordie@cyclesoft.com   NeXTMail Yes! 
>>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20 
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From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman)
Subject: Re: spurious DMA interrupt:
Reply-To: gordie@cyclesoft.com
Organization: Dolphin Software
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:09:14 GMT

In article <1jpjnfINN8ne@tamsun.tamu.edu>  writes:
> I've been getting these on my console log lately...Any ideas?
> 
> spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110
> spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110
> spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom Swanner III
> bizarre@clients-r-us.tamu.edu

Might be a modemor something on the serial port. I noticed this too, so I  
unplugged my modem from serial port A and it went away. Seemed harmless. COUld  
be a coincidence, though - just guessing ...
-- 
>>> Gordie Freedman  -> gordie@cyclesoft.com   NeXTMail Yes! 
>>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20 
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From: flog@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: Mac to NeXTprinter ?
Reply-To: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:37:47 GMT

Who can comment on decent solutions for printing on the NeXTprinter from a  
Macintosh with Ethernet. I understand that there is a software called uShare  
that would do it and more. Are there any reasonable Berkeley line printer  
implementations that would make the NeXTprinter appear in the Mac chooser ?

Thanks in Advance

-Florian

--
Florian Gutzwiller		Tel: +41 61 262 05 10, Fax: +41 61 262 05 10
Open Systems AG, Basel		flog@Open.CH
Switzerland			S=gutzwiller;O=open;P=EUnet=A=EUnet;C=CH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jmeacham@world.std.com (James Meacham)
Subject: Downloading mail by modem?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:52:14 GMT

Since I don't have my NeXT connected to a network (mine is a solitary and
lonely machine) I have a dial-up internet accout.  Is there any way to
download mail files and read them in 3.0's Mail.app?  I've tried this with
pine and mm mailbox files, but I get a message that "this mailbox is of an
old type".  I've wriiten a script that auotmates the download process, but
it's pretty useless if I can't read the files.
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Silly NeXT question from user who should know the answer
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:02:01 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Reply-To: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ssrg-next-1.stanford.edu

In article <1993Jan26.232845.12294@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu  
writes:
> How can a user "inform" the FileViewer that files with certain
> extensions should have a corresponding app selected as the default
> launch app?  It's easy enough to select an app already displayed in the
> Tools panel of the inspector, but how does one add a new choice?  Dragging
> an icon into that area doesn't seem to work (it should!)... 

This is partially what the old 'Unknown' application does, though I've not
posted a 3.0 version of it since it's original function keeps getting reduced
as NeXT fixes/changes things.  It basically is a remapping app that assigns
icons and owners to file types that don't have them don't have the right ones.

Unfortunately, Unknown or any of the various 'edit the iconheader' suggestions
are not guaranteed to work as it also depends on how the target application is
implemented.  It has to both accept files with the appropriate method and not
be overly picky about filtering out extensions it doesn't recognize.  (Some
do reject based on extension even though the content might have been OK.)

- Christopher
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Supra / DFax = Good Fax, Little Bux (Re: ZyXEL vs. Supra)
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:30:04 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1993Jan28.005057.28136@fcom.cc.utah.edu> yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang/Humanities) writes:
>In article <SHIN.93Jan27015456@sgtp.sgtp.apple.juice.or.jp> shin@sgtp.apple.juice.or.jp (Sugou Shinichirou) writes:
>>In article <BmaNXB4w165w@student.business.uwo.ca> g3steen@student.business.uwo.ca (Garnet Steen) writes:
>>
>>        I am ready to go with one of these fax modems and I want to hear 
>>   what people's experiences with them are, since I am not familiar with 
>>   either modem.  Which do people 'in the know' recommend?  Any horror 
>>   stories?
>>
>>It is clear that ZyXEL is much much better than any other modems
>>(including Supra) if you use NXFax driver.
>>Shin'ichirou Sugou     (NeXTmail acceptable)
>>				   
>That may not be true.
>I have ordered an eval copy of DFax from Dale Pratt. DFax is the NXFax
>equivalent for Supra.
>If DFax for Supra works as well as NXFax for ZyXEL, then a Supra is
>equivalent to a ZyXEL for faxing, blowing whistles, etc.--at half the price.
>Yan Fang-Magnusson

I have been using DFax for about two weeks now to send faxes with
excellent results.  Have not tried to receive yet, but I have been using
data and fax one right after the other with no hassles (data with kermit
5a).  The Supra fax/modem / DFax combination is indeed much less $ for
much the same functionality.  Totally transparent once installed.  

One thing I am looking forward to is the ambitious future plan of DFax
to integrate voice / data / fax in an all-in-one-box solution.  Supra is
actively involved in implementing voice-mail type support as an upgrade
option for the future.  If DFax does as good a job supporting that as
they have done the fax driver, it should be a Good Thing.

Something to put on the wish list... A De-install option, which would
replace the original kernel.config and getty files that DFax modifies
when, for instance, one wants to change peripherals between ports or
temporarily use a given serial port for something else.

All in all, the Supra/DFax solution for NeXT is a reliable and
functional communications solution at about the minimum possible price,
for those of us with cash constraints.

-- 
** Casimir J. (Casey) Palowitch  -  In 1996, there will be two kinds  **
**      Slavic Cataloger         -  of computer professional : those  **
**  U. of Pgh. Library Systems   -       who know NeXT, and those     **
**       cjp+@pitt.edu           -              without Jobs.         **
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Will NeXT printer work with NS486?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:28:34 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


	OOOPPPPSSSSS!  Sorry folks.  In an earlier post, I commented
	on the NP and NSP with NS486.  I said P5, I meant to say
	486!!!!!! 

	I didn't mean to say P5 ... I hit the send button too fast.

	{kick in the rear}  Ouch!  O.K. I will proofread next time!!!!

	bye
	
	Joel Belog
	nether@wpi.wpi.edu
From: gregor@oit.itd.umich.edu (Gregor Purdy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compression for the archives (and FTP enhancements)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:48:03 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: fredrik.oit.itd.umich.edu

You could have the ftp client on the user's side to all the compression and
decompression. Thereby, the uncompressed version would never be sent over the
net. You could even build a version of an ftp client that looked at the 
filename extensions on the files it was transferring and either automatically
decompress or prompt the user for permission to decompress (a preference).
Then, you could configure it to do any compression/decompression scheme you
wanted by having it do call outs to filter programs. You'd just need a way
to associate an extension with a filter program...

--Gregor N. Purdy
Contemporary Design Studios
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu  (Avery Wang)
Subject: Re: CD publishers should fund Sonata!
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 00:44:46 GMT

In article <eronald.728089816@ruble> eronald@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Edmund Ronald)  
writes:
> Much of the software on Sonata, eg. 1.0 and 2.0 stuff is of archival
> importance. I suggest it should be copied onto a CD, and placed on
> a jukebox CD drive. This would also make sure this software was safe
> which is essential for those who for some reason run old systems.
> 
> Surely, all those CD collection publishers that got their stuff off 
> Sonata could spring for a CD drive for the server? Some of my software
> has got "freebied" by people from all over the place, including Canon Japan.
> 
> I am sure that Canon, would do the honorable thing if approached nicely -
> after all they are using this as a marketing tool, and the Japanese
> are notorious for going after long-term symbiotic relationships rather
> than letting the goose which lays the golden eggs die of starvation.
> 
> Edmund.

I'm in total agreement here!  I had some of my stuff "freebied" by various  
publishers too.  2 of them asked for my permission to distribute my software.   
I haven't checked, but I wonder if anyone else has published my software  
without my knowledge or permission. (So far, I don't care).

Anyway, software authors who get asked for permission to have their software  
distributed are in a position to request that a donation be made to the  
various archive servers.  So I propose that people keep this in mind in the  
future.  But by now, all the software that is out on the currently distributed  
disks has already been sucked off, so we would have to wait for new stuff to  
apply any leverage, I suppose. 

-Avery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wolpert@sonne (Florian Wolpert)
Subject: How to have pictures of sender in Mail.app ?
Organization: PPG Hellige, Freiburg, GERMANY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:45:47 GMT

Hi Internet,

all i want is the picture of the sender appearing on Mail.app.
This works well for lokal addresses but any other Mail from
"outer space" is delivered without sender-image. How shoud i
name the corresponding image in the Peoples-Folder ? i have
tried all sorts of things, but without success.

So listen, you Internet, and give me a hint ;-) 

- Flo

--
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