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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Last test....
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:37:34 GMT

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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Most Inhuman And Barbarous Acts Have Been Committed Against Moslems...
Date: 20 Jul 92 20:18:51 GMT





<1992Jul21.052202.11237@cco.caltech.edu>
ernst@helmholtz.cns.caltech.edu (Ernst Niebur)

>Being a member of the "silent majority", I beg to differ. I believe
>that the best choice to make is keeping M. in the kill file and never
>make him the pleasure to read his crap or even answer to it.  I bet the
>phenomenon M. would quickly disappear if everybody did this. 

Who says people are no damn good? As for 'his crap,'

Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
        "Document No: 50," Archive No: 4/3621, Cabin No: 162, Drawer 
        No: 5, File No: 2905, Section No: 433, Contents No: 6, 6-1, 6-2.
        (To 36th Division Command - Militia Commander Ismail Hakki)

"For eight days, Armenians have been forcibly obstructing people from
 leaving their homes or going from one village to the other. Day and night
 they are rounding up male inhabitants, taking them to unknown destinations,
 after which nothing further is heard of them. (Informed from statements
 of those who succeeded in escaping wounded from the massacres around
 Taskilise ruins). Women and children are being openly murdered or are
 being gathered in the Church Square and similar places. Most inhuman and
 barbarous acts have been committed against Moslems for eight days."


Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: The Winds Of 'Milson's Revisionism Are Blowing Strongly: pp. 202,...
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:30:33 GMT





There are still too many questions that remain unanswered, 'Milson.'
These are the questions that should be answered before we open 'Dunn's
Box.


Source: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill
Company, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages). 

p. 202 (first and second paragraphs).

But, what is there to prevent this?

p. 15 (second paragraph).

???

p. 109 (second paragraph).

???

p. 203 (second paragraph).

???

p. 204 (first paragraph).

???

p. 218 (first and second paragraphs).

???

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: They've Spent Enough In You To Float One, 'Miao.'
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:19:21 GMT






<1992221315.A313663@CoolCat.Kittyland.USA>
Sophie.Miao@CoolCat.Kittyland.USA (Dr Sophie Miao)

>   Niao, Niao, Mutlu ! I am going to reveal some (intimate) facts of life
>about you for the benefit of all netters.

Let me hide behind your posteriors.

>The results were quite shocking : Hasan B. Mutlu , that is:
>All ass and no forehead, THREE balls and no pipee.

I think every 'Miao' is entitled to a middle 'husband' she can forget.

>   As you see, Mutlu originally had three balls but now he is left with only
>ONE! The qestion that arises is:What happened to the other two balls of Mutlu ?

They've spent enough in you to float one.
  
>   Now, Hasan my precious, can you please reveal to us all the mystery   
>surrounding the disappearance of your other two balls ? I give you 48 hours
>time. If you don't do it yourself within this period, then I'll have to make
>a public announcement concerning this myself.

What's the point of being a 'Miao' if 'Sophie' is going to look and
act like an imitation man?

>  Your secret admirer, Dr Sophie Miao, the Cat.  

No 'Miao' should have to dance backward all their lives.

>PS : Hasan, you have all my love :-)

Despite a lifetime of service to the cause of sexual liberation,
'Miao' has never caught venereal disease, which makes her feel
rather like an Arctic explorer who has never had frostbite.


Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)

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From: bilgin@pegasus.megasoft.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Deneme 1 2 3 4
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:03:40 GMT

deneme 1 2 3 4 5....

-B
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From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:10:36 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Women, I am about to launch a free electronic matching service on 
Usenet.  Unfortunately, more guys than gals have expressed an 
interest so far.  If you would like to see the fourth draft of my 
questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's needs as well as 
men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I posted in 
alt.personals.
 
This service is serious and I already have 119 men and 86 women signed
up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected and
programmers are being lined up for the construction of the listserver.
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make sure
that matches are compatible culturally.
 
                                                            Eric Klien
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: The Truth Needs To Be Told Over And Over Again, 'Khachikian.'
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<1992Jul30.172419.8710@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
	<1992Jul30.191534.19989@morrow.stanford.edu>
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:26:26

At worst Mutlu has excessively posted lies.  That does not carry
the death penalty in civilized societies.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
From: tedrick@whistle.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: The 'Mongol's Burden' (destruction of civilization)
Date: 26 Jul 1992 12:02:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: whistle.berkeley.edu

The traditional approach is to separate primarily agricultural
peoples from primarily nomadic peoples. Ghengis Khan's great
contribution was the destruction of the primarily agricultural
civilizations within his reach, thus eliminating human overpopulation
and making the environment more suitable for a nomadic way of life.
Similar remarks on a more limited scale apply to the destruction
of the decadent Byzantine Empire by the Ottomans. The main weapon
of the agriculturalists was the wall, and until methods were
found for breeching walled cities agricultural civilization had
the upper hand over the nomads, due to the more rapid population
growth made possible by increased production of food.

The next main stage of development was the industrial revolution,
which allowed the industrial powers to crush by means of superior
weapons and machines any non-industrial opposition. This mechanical
advantage allowed the creation of the British Empire and other
colonial empires. But now this technological progress has leaked
to the 3rd world, allowing an unprecedented population explosion
(due to advances in food production and medical care primarily).

The question now is, what is the next stage of human development?
What new Ghengis Khan will arise to eliminate the excess human
population? Or will it be plagues that do it? Mass famines and
civil wars throughout the world? Attack by the nuclear powers
aimed at eliminating the overpopulated cities of the 3rd world?
Environmental degradation such as global warming, destruction
of the ozone layer, or a new ice age? Invaders from outer space? :-)

One thing seems almost certain: the mathematics of human population
growth indicate that catastrophe is coming, as the current growth rates
can't continue much longer. Whether it will be 10 years or 2 centuries
I don't know, but such exponential population growth isn't sustainable
for long.

-- 
"An army is composed of idle and inactive men. Unless the general has a constant
eye on them this artificial machine will fall to pieces. If my soldiers began to
think, not one would remain. All that can be done is give them 'esprit de corps'
and keep them more afraid of their officers than the enemy" -Frederick the Great
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From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: Oboy, Is 'PXP111' Full Of It?
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:50:03 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Jul23.172041.7676@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gd8f@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory  Dandulakis) writes:


>   After that, the credibility of Shaw as objective historian about
>   Turkey "goes for a walk".
> 
>   Now, the massive historical revisionism from Mutlu Incorporated
>   has to look for better sources :-).


I'm getting curious about something. How about giving grades of
objectivity to following hypothetical historians. Grade of
100 means pro-Greek, grade of 0 means pro-Turkish, and a grade of 50
means that the person is objective.


A. Greek, Orthodox..........
B. Armenian, Christian.....
C. Greek Jewish.............
D. British, Christian (wife unknown).......................
E. Arab, Christian..................................
F. Arab, Muslim................
G. American, Christian (non-Greek, non-Armenian)........
H. American, Jewish. (wife Turkish)........................
I. American, Christian (Greek origin).......
J. American, Christian (Armenian origin)........
K. American, Christian (origin unknown)..........
L. American, Jewish  (brother in law Turkish).......
M. AMerican, Jewish (wife's origin unknown)...........
N. American(Turkish background).....................
O. Turkish...........................


That's enough for now. Would you please fill in the numbers ?
-- 

	mark	


   hubey@pilot.njin.net                   hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
 ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey                  hubey@logos.montclair.edu
From: Guven.Guzeldere@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU ("hq.ggg")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: News/Haber
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:43:10 GMT
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BITNET@forsythe.Stanford.EDU>

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                             Milliyet

Fri Jul 24, 1992  5:32 am  EST

    -Muthis iddia| Kadin militan beni HEP'li milletvekili
Nizamettin Toguc, lojmaninda sakladi. Adana'da iki koruyucuyu
olduren PKK tetikcisi 16 yasindaki militan H.O., yaralandiktan
sonra, kendisini evinde saklayip tedavi ettiren HEP kokenli
Batman milletvekili Nizamettin Toguc oldugunu soyledi. Militan,
Emniyet SAvcilik ve mahkemedeki ifadesinde Toguc'un kizinin
kimligi ile Meclis doktoru na tedavi ettirildigini de one surdu.
H.O., Mardin'de jandarmayla girdigi catis mada yaralandiktan
sonra ozel bir hastanede amiliyat edildigini, Nihayet Ankara da
Toguc'un lojmaninda saklandigini da soyledi. Adana'da bir doktor
ve hemsire gozaltinda. Tedavisi yapildiktan sonra, eylem icin
Adna'ya dondugunu soyleyen militan, Nizamettin Toguc'un evinde
bulundugu sirada, diger HEP'lilerin kendisi ni hic yanliz
birakmadigini ekledi. Kiz militanin Adana'daki itiraflarinin yer
aldigi video bantlari, TBMM Baskani, Basbakan ve Icisleri
Bakani'na gonderdi. Icisleri ve DMG, gizli sorusturma baslatti.
TBMM Baskani Cindoruk, Bu tamamen yataklik etmektir, dogruysa
gerekeni yapariz seklinde konustu. HEP Genel Bas kani Feridun
Yazar komplo iddiasinda bulundu. Suclanan Toguc, iddialari kabul
etmedi.
    -PKK pusu kurdu: 4 sehit. Bitlis'in Hizan ilcesinde
operasyondan donen as kerlere ates acildi, 4 er sehit oldu, cok
sayida erde yaralandi. Ankara Mithat pasa Caddesi'nde devriye
aracina ates acan biri turbanli kadin, silahli uc kisi iki polisi
yaraladi.
    -Talabani Barzani tartismasi. Talabani bugun Istanbul'da
Cumhurbaskani Ozal la gorusecek. Barzani ise muhtemelen yarin
Turkiye'de olacak. Iki Kurt lider ABD'ye gidiyor. Talabani'ye
gore PKK kamplari Barzani'nin bolgesinde. Barzani ise aksini
savunuyor. Ve PKK konusunda Kurt liderler, Turkiye'ye verdikleri
sozu tutmuyor.
    -Milli Egitim Bakani Koksal Toptan'dan YOK'e rest. Gorevinden
ayrilan Ihsan Dogramaci, YOK'un etkinligini hissettirmek icin,
sakincali rektor adaylarinin liste disi birakilmasini, en az oy
alan adaylari dahi liste basi yapmak gerekti gini savundu. Milli
Egitim Bakani Koksal Toptan ise, Madem secim yapildi, en yuksek
oyu alan 3 kisi Cumhurbaskanina bildirilmelidir dedi ve soyle
devam etti Bazi profesorler sakincali idiyse, yillardir bu
hocalara neden universitelerde ders verdiriliyor? Bakan, Eylul'de
secimlerin yenilenecegini soyledi.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: hekimgi@ecf.toronto.edu (HEKIMGIL MERT TEVFIK)
Subject: Test..
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:31:05 GMT

Just testing.. please ignore..
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: mustafa@seas.smu.edu (Mustafa Kocaturk)
Subject: Re: TURKEY: A project for stability or
Summary: adding apples to oranges
Keywords: GAP sdp land peasants percent
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:55:13 GMT

In article <1475100139@igc.org>
hrcoord@igc.org (Human Rights Coordinator) writes:
>
>more than 50 percent of arable land is currently in the hands of
>eight percent of the population, those being the 'agas'  (feudal
>landlords). as much as 40 percent of the peasants do not have any
>land at all, while the remaining 10 percent toil on tiny and
>scattered scraps of barren land.
>

Can anybody explain what kind of arithmetic reasoning might have led
to the paragraph above ? It sounds like the author of this article is
confusing percentages of `land' with percentages of `population', like
adding apples to oranges. The faulty logic can be summarized as follows:

	    50 % of arable land owned by 8 % of the population
   landless 40 % of the peasants
 +  toiling 10 % of the peasants
 ----------------------------------
           100 % of the population.  :-)

In my humble opinion, the article may have some credibility as a whole,
but this paragraph spoils it by exposing what is either a flaw
in the author's reasoning, or, preferably, a typographical error.
Maybe the author assumed that 50 % of land == 50 % of the peasants,
which would make the paragraph sound even unacceptable to himself/herself.

-- 
Mustafa KOCATURK  mustafa@seas.smu.edu   Electrical Engineering Department
Home:(214)706-5952  Work:(214)692-2541   SMU Box 753190, Dallas, TX 75275-3190
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
From: teoman@milton.u.washington.edu (Teoman Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Olimpiyat
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:53:00 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <Bs3xsL.6Dn@acsu.buffalo.edu> v095qhyg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Constantin Orfanos) writes:
>In article <Bs3tM5.KEp@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, varnavas@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (varnavas constantine) writes...
>>Please keep postings in Turkish in the appropriate groups.
>>This is soc.culture.greek NOT soc.culture.turkish
>>-- 
>>Constantinos Varnavas
>>University of Illinois
>
>
>     I agree with this 110 percent!!!!!!  The only reason for a posting like
> that is to hide something from us.

People were complaining about the Turkish team not being shown on TV during
the opening ceremonies(sp?) of the olympics. No mentioning of Greece
in there... If you are really interested to see if any of the Turkish
articles talk about Greeks or Greece look for Yunan or Yunanistan...

So I guess there was some other reason for posting in Turkish and
it wasn't because we were hiding something from you... :) Of course
you probably look at anything spoken or written in Turkish in horror...
That must be a horable way to live... in fear that Turks are saying
something bad about Greeks... :) get a life and relax... many Turks
have nothing against your people. :) 

Enjoy your summer and stay away from the computer a little bit...
laters
Teo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: obaidr@ecf.toronto.edu (OBAID ARIF)
Subject: Olympics and Turkey
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:26:44 GMT

I am interested in knowing how many medals Turkey has won since the advent
of the Olympic games. Can anyone provide me this information? What events
have they won these medals in?

Also, what is the story about the Turkish Weightlifter Naim Suleymanoglu?
What connection does he have with Bulgaria? Why has he changed his name so
often?

My e-mail address is "obaidr@ecf.toronto.edu".

Thanks in advance.

Arif Obaid

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From: sidirop@leland.Stanford.EDU (stefanos sidiropoulos)
Subject: Re: Europeans Stunk
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 08:00:26 GMT

KELLY@SUVM.BITNET with her usual academic-my-butt style writes:

> P.S. By using the title 'Europeans Stunk,' I do not mean to imply that
> they do not stink now.  In any case, however, I am sure they bathe more

I noticed that you post from a "western" site, right ? Does it stink there,
and if it does why dont you go back to your Turkiye where everything is
neat and clean ?

> often than 'once or twice a year' nowadays, although I do not have the
> relevant statistics about Greece. 

Well, I can give you some statistics if you are interested.

>                                   But, I digress.

Dont worry: Every stinky European and Greek on that net knows that digression 
is a usual habit of the employees of 'Non Turkish Then It Sucks Inc'.



BE AWARE CIVILIZATION:

'KELLY the historian' joins 'Mutlu the great' in his crusade:
They will prove that the roots of modern civilization were in Turkey, 
Everybody else was uncivilized, and massacred some Muslims and Jews 
occasionally, just for fun. And (oh horror): THEY STUNK and THEY STILL STINK!!

Indeed well done Ankara: "Douleia den eixe o diaolos g*e ta paidia tou"

--- Stef.

PS: My kill file now is annotated with 'KELLY' in addition to The One
    and The Only Hassan, so dont waste time and bandwidth to reply 
    (or you will do so anyway?)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: NBC, Naim & P'tial Elections..
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:08:27 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Hey Turks, relax men !
no-body is against you, it is only the election time and you don't have 
any saying on that in the usa, do you ? you are a negligible minority 
in the usa compared to others like spanish, greek, jew, italian etc..
even if you think it in terms of religious segregation you are still 
a negligible minority and besides you have almost no impact on the culture 
of the usa, in no grounds ... so relax no-body has any serious reason 
to be against you...kendinizi orada fasulyeden bir nimet saymayin..
Marco Pasha.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.iranian,soc.rights.human
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: 'And They Started Carving Up People With Their Bayonets And Knives.'
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:27:29 GMT





Armenian Soldiers Massacre Hundreds of Fleeing Families:

"The attackers killed most of the soldiers and volunteers defending the 
 women and children.  They then turned their guns on the terrified refugees.  
 The few survivors later described what happened: 'That's when the real 
 slaughter began,' said Azer Hajiev, one of the three soldiers to survive.  
 'The Armenians just shot and shot. And they came in and started carving 
 up people with their bayonets and knives.'  A 45-year-old man who had been 
 shot in the back  said:' We were walking through the brush. Then they opened 
 up on us and people were falling all around.  My wife fell, then my child."
 Thomas Goltz
 Sunday Times, 3/1/92

Armenian Raid Leaves Azeris Dead or Fleeing:

"...about 1,000 of Khojaly's 10,000 people were killed in Tuesdays attack. 
 Azerbaijani television showed truckloads of corpses being evacuated from 
 the Khocaly area."
 Brian Killen (Reuters)
 The Washington Times, 3/2/92

Atrocity Reports Horrify Azerbaijan :

"Azeri officials who returned from the seen to this town about nine miles 
 away brought back three dead children, the backs of their heads blown off...
 'Women and children had been scalped,' said Assad Faradzev, an aide to 
 Karabagh's Azeri governor.  Azeri television showed pictures of one 
 truckload of bodies brought to the Azeri town of Agdam, some with their 
 faces apparently scratched with knives or their eyes gouged out."
 Brian Killen (Reuters)
 The Washington Times, 3/3/92

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


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