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In article <1993Jan7.080926.18869@midway.uchicago.edu>, chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (chris williams) writes:
> In article <19590.9301061256@subnode.epcc.ed.ac.uk> s.telford@edinburgh.ac.uk (Scott Telford) writes:
>>sandoval@stsci.edu's message of Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:27:53 GMT:
>>
>>>    Anyway, I have what may be a strange question.  I've been reading all of
>>> this Kate stuff lately from the archives (Cloudbusting, The Garden, etc..)
>>> and it's really made me want to write Kate to thank her for all they joy
>>> her music has given me.  I've never written to a performer before, so where
>>> should I send my letter?  I'd assume that I could send it to the record 
>>> company, but then I'm afraid they'll just send me  a form letter and Kate
>>> will never actually see my letter.
>>
>>Better to send it c/o the KBC, which she *does* keep in contact with.
>>Better still, try East Wickham Farm - after all, if her studio's there,
>>she's going to pick up the mail pretty frequently!
> 
>    She *might* read it, but the family has a policy of not replying to
> *anything* sent directly to the Farm. Andy (IED) has sent a dozen white
> roses to Kate on her birthday for years, but other than the time at the
> convention, Kate and her family have never acknowleged them. The KBC
> is the best route, and Kate *has* replied to letters sent there. But
> don't expect a reply, and you won't be disapointed.
> 
>                                   Chris Williams
>                                      chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu
> 
    Chris,

     Thanks for the info.  A reply would be nice, mainly just to know that
she got it.  But I'd never expect one.  It'd just be a nice surprise. :)
I'll give the KBC a try.

     Thanks again.

     John


x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:07:55 EST
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:06:20 -0500
Subject: *** GEt Out Of My House Annotated lryics PART I ***
From: rhill@netrun.cts.com (ronald hill)
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Comments: Cloudbuster
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<1992Dec21.064154.6627@eaglet.rain.com>
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA
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As has been pointed out, the TOYS soundtrack is quite interesting and
beautiful, with, among other attractions, new vocals by Tori Amos.

In addition, I wonder if anyone else thought that the opening theme
song sounded *very* much like a KaTe KomposiTion?  Elements of RUTH
instruments, rhythms, and arrangements, and a couple ooo-ooo-oo backup
vocal stylings that sounded an awful lot like KaTe.  I didn't actually
think it was her, but did wonder, and was looking anxiously at the
end credits.  I think it was the same composers as most of the other
music:  Trevor Horne and ???(someone else mentioned the other name in
another post).  Curious.

And, for what it's worth, I thought the film, though flawed in a couple
of really minor ways, was B*E*A*U*T*I*F*U*L.  As others have said, a
cross between Dr. Strangelove and Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
(which is a damn fine recommendation in my book).
-- 
-larryy@apple.com

"Shi Nou Kou Sho Inu Neko Programmer"  -  Takada Naoki
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:55:39 EST
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:54:54 -0500
From: lorenmo@microsoft.COM
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From: lorenmo@microsoft.com (Loren Moore)
Subject: A couple questions/comments
Date: 09 Jan 93 01:55:58 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

I'm another one of them dedicated KT fans. I am also big on Jane Siberry, 
Peter Gabriel, Tori Amos, Laurie Anderson, as well as Tear Garden, Legendary
Pink Dots.

I have a question about Kate. Does anybody know the exact day/time of her
birth? I'd also like to know where. In light of the astrological version
of the KT symbol, I am very curious about her Natal chart. From the data
in the FAQ, I can surmize that she's a Leo (hence, Lionhart, I suppose).
But, I would like to know as much as possible about her.

Bonus question: If that's not enough, how about Peter Gabriel's birth data?
So. I need: Birth date, birth time (within an hour), birth place.

thanks so much,
daemien

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:14:20 -0500
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From: LAUREN@HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU (Lauren Caulton)
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Subject:      December recording
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

Can anyone suggest how I can get a copy of Kate's "December"(rest of
title?) song? I've only got a part of it which I grabbed off the radio.
I'd really like CD, but I haven't seen it on either CD or tape. I did
see it on a very expensive bootleg vinyl album, which in retrospect,I
guess I should have bought. Is this song on any regular album, or only
on bootlegs?
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:16:03 -0500
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From: chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (chris williams)
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In article <1ivah4INN2jt@tansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk> msubu@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr E D G Robertson) writes:
>
>In article <9301121424.aa09481@hobbes.sco.com>, news@sco.COM (News admin) writes:
>|> chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (chris williams) writes:
>|> 
>|> >  For instance, Kate smokes. Does this mean I should smoke John Player
>|> >Specials just because she does?
>|> 
>|> Oh, did she change brands?  I heard she smoked Silk Cut.  Of course, I
>|> started smoking Silk Cut before I found that out; I wouldn't want to be
>|> accused of ruining my health simply to emulate my Goddess.
>
>	Hmm, as far ask I know she smokes Silk Cut, and always has done.

   She used to smoke John Player Specials, and in one interview the
interviewer mentioned her smoking a "Silk Cut", mentioning that it was
a habit shared by many ballet dancers. Insane. (I was unfamilier with
what a "Silk Cut" was, and didn't know if it was a brand of tobacco or
obscure British slang for something else.) 

   I apologize for any confusion in your attempts to contract cancer.


                                      Chris Williams
                                         chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu

x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:29:37 EST
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:29:06 -0500
From: sandoval@stsci.edu
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Subject: Happy found!
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   Well, all of this talk about Happy Rhodes prompted me to ask for one
of her CD's for my B-day (which is today, BTW).  Well, my wife bought me
"Warpaint", and all I can say is, "WOW"!  I'm very impressed and anxious
to hear more.  Any suggestions on what album I should pick up next?  I have
limited funds at the moment...:(

   Anyways, I just wanted to thank everyone for leading me to this 
great music. :)

   John

x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:58:59 EST
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:58:14 -0500
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From: s.telford@edinburgh.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
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Subject: Re: A letter to Kate???
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sandoval@stsci.edu's message of Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:27:53 GMT:

>    Anyway, I have what may be a strange question.  I've been reading all of
> this Kate stuff lately from the archives (Cloudbusting, The Garden, etc..)
> and it's really made me want to write Kate to thank her for all they joy
> her music has given me.  I've never written to a performer before, so where
> should I send my letter?  I'd assume that I could send it to the record 
> company, but then I'm afraid they'll just send me  a form letter and Kate
> will never actually see my letter.

Sending it to EMI might be obvious, but would probably be a bad idea
since she probably doesn't keep in touch with them very much at all
when she's not promoting, and your letter might stand a good chance of
disappearing amongst record company bureaucracy.

Better to send it c/o the KBC, which she *does* keep in contact with.
Better still, try East Wickham Farm - after all, if her studio's there,
she's going to pick up the mail pretty frequently!

Dunno the proper address, but something like

Kate Bush
East Wickham Farm
East Wickham
Welling
Kent DA16
UK

should do the trick.

(PS. Anybody know how far it is from East Wickham underground station? 8^)

--
Scott Telford, Service Division,          / "Can I assume you're pissed out of
Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre,      /  your head on 'Big Sky', on the new
University of Edinburgh, UK.              /  album?" - Peter Swales,
<s.telford@ed.ac.uk> - (+44 31 650 5978)  /  interviewing Kate Bush, 1985.

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:00:08 -0500
From: kstauff@APG-9.APG.ARMY.MIL (Kimberly Stauffer AMSTE-LGS 4900)
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Hope this isn't a repeat - sorry if it is.

----- Forwarded message # 1:

Date:     Mon, 4 Jan 93 14:46:30 GMT
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Subject:  Failed mail  (msg.aa01067)
To:       kstauff@apg-9.apg.army.mil

    Your message could not be delivered to
'ecto@cs.ns1.rutgers.edu (host: delay&) (queue: delay)' for the following
reason:  '(BHST) Unknown host/domain name in "ecto@cs.ns1.rutgers.edu"'


    Your message follows:

Date:     Mon, 4 Jan 93 9:46:04 EST
From:     Kimberly Stauffer AMSTE-LGS 4900   <kstauff@APG-9.APG.ARMY.MIL>
To:       Love-Hounds@uunet.uu.net
cc:       ecto@cs.ns1.rutgers.edu
Subject:  More on Happy

Hi,

Since my post on thursday 31 Dec "Finally-Happy/Funny Story/My Analysis -
Opinion", I have heard more Happy.   

I record a show (on NPR) called ECHOS by John D. LaBerto, its very good,
covers many new age, and female artists.  Last night I recorded
the show (didn't stay up to hear it-went to bed while recording) and
on my way to work this morning I popped the tape in to hear it.
As I was skipping forward I came in on a female vocalist that I thought
was new Kate stuff, so I rewinded to the beginning of the song and
-wow- it was Happy.  I think it was something like  all alone ? or
nobody here?  from, I believe HRII?  Anyways, it is odd how in half
of the song she sounds very folksy (10000 M's, Joan Armarating...) singing
in a flat voice and then in parts of the song she is very high very
Kate sounding.   Interesting........................................
Kinda neat to have a suprise on your way to work [D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[Dn unexpected suprise on your way to work.

     
I think I'll have to buy HR eariler stuff first.

Bye

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x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:49:02 EST
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:48:02 -0500
From: u9031227@athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk
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Message-ID: <9301061144.AA15385@bot5>
Subject: The Fisher King
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

Happy new year LoveHounds!!!!!

 The new year is upon us and a new album from Kate (Hopefully).Just
a little message concerning the Terry Gilliam film 'The Fisher
King'.I noticed that in a couple of scenes Robin Williams had a
tendancy to lie naked on his back in Central Park,New York, watching the sky
he refered to this as CLOUDBUSTING.Now I have never cloudbusted
myself (or  maybe Ive never got caught) but this is clearly a phenomenon
which is commonly known as the Kate-influence.The proof in the
pudding is that Terry Gilliam is metioned in the sleeve notes on
the Hounds of Love Album and me thinks they are big fans of each other.
Are there any other cases of this phenomenon???? Please tell...
Indeed if there are any cases of films etc influencing Kate (there is no point in
metioning influences which would widly be known by the lovehounds e.g.
Everyone knows the scene in the Hounds of
love video where Kate and her man are running ,hancuffed together through the wind
swept moores is taken directly from Hitchcock's '39 Steps'),anyway please tell....



       Remember apreciate your waistcoat,you never know where your next one
       is coming from!!!!!!!


        BE KIND TO MY MISTAKES???
                    Allen..
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From: TOMPY@SARA.CC.UTU.FI (Tom Pylkk{nen)
Subject: thanks
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF TURKU, FINLAND
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 11:08:36 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23


     Thanks to everyone who sent me discographies.
  I've got a ftp-server adress where from i got all i needed.





/  333  /

/ TOMPY stands for Tom Pylkk{nen            /    
/ i have been clamed to be studying physics /                 *

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From: jkd2886@usl.edu (Davis Jason K)
Subject: Re: Pigface
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:17:51 GMT

	One good thing about Fook though, there is absolutely NO MENTION of
Trent Reznor ANYWHERE in the list of artists on the album!!  Thank you Pigface!
I'm sorry, Trent just seemed to really lessen the music.  His version of Suck
on both the live Pigface version (the other live version, with Ogre I think is
SO SO SO SO SO much more intense!) and on the NIN album are really weak!    
He just seems to have the same singing pattern and whimpy voice in everything.
Like he's trying to be seductive.  Cosey Fanny Tutti...now THAT's seductive!


						Isenguard
From: TOMPY@SARA.CC.UTU.FI (Tom Pylkk{nen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: request for discographies
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:24:03 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF TURKU, FINLAND
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    I'd like to get discographies from following groups :

    Front Line Assembly
    Front 242
    Delerium
    Signal aout 43
    My life .. with the thrill kill kult
    Revolting cocks
    Controlled bleeding
    Noise Unit
    
    So if someone has even one of them so would you be kind and e-mail it to me
From: gjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Gary Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Review: Front 242 - Live Target
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:13:48 GMT

In <1993Jan04.212549.23636@sco.com> awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:

>Overall, rather a nice live disc (good enough that any legitimate live F242
>album would have difficulty bettering it), but like most live bootlegs this
>is definitely one for the seriously fanatical rather than the merely
>interested.

Apparently, althhough this is a bootlg, it was actually discovered by
Play it Again Sam, who thought the quality was good and have actually
distributed it. This was from Melody Maker a couple of weeks ago, I
can get the actual details if anyone is ionterested.

Gary
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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Casey Kasem wrote and boy is he pissed...
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:56:50 GMT

In rec.music.industrial, gingeric9178@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>   I sent Mr. Casey Kasem a fax asking him nicely to let Negativland off the 
>monetary hook and such over U2 (as directed to here on the net by a poster
>saying Negativland had released CK's fax number for this purpose) and lo and
>behold today I got a typed (but personally signed - wow!) letter from Mr. Top
>40 himself.  It reads:

Interesting - I started drafting a letter to him the other day but didn't
finish it yet. I wonder if Casey is sending a form letter reply? I'd like
to know if anyone gets the same or a similar reply. 

Meanwhile, I'm faxing a copy of your post to Negativland in a few minutes...
Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.

If you can, fax or mail a copy of the original letter to Negativland, they 
might want a copy for their next magazine or the archives. Negativland's
fax is 510-420-0469; mail address is 1920 Monument Blvd, MF-1, Concord, CA
94520.  

Casey's points are interesting, but, supposedly the suit wasn't over the
"sample" of U2, it was packaging. Also, supposedly at least some of the 
Casey Kasem outtakes were released before on some punk compilation? I think
actually Negativland got the Kasem outtakes from that and another source. 

Negativland's recent statements about how they feel the copyright laws
need to be revamped to consider sampling and new technology and to allow
use of "appropriation" when not stealing the entire original are a sharp
constrant to Casey's position on the subject. Unfortunately Casey is right
with regard to the legal issues - the main problem I see is that the 
legal machines of huge corporations can squash anyone small before they ever
even make it to court, so it effectively stops being a legal enforcement and
becomes one determined by power, money and intimidation. Does the crime 
justify the punishment? Should the "theft" carry with it a punishment that
costs more than any profits from the theft?  

Did Negativland really do this for profit or were they knowingly martyring
themselves? I don't even think they knew what they were doing and that 
releasing that project was an experiment - tossing a brick into a pond to 
see how big the waves were and how far they went.  

   - Malcolm
From: dm0@agora.rain.com (Jerry Sievert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Labels looking for new industrial talent
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:55:57 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum


Hi, I was curious if anybody out there knew of any smaller record labels
that are looking for music that's a cross between kmfdm and ministry...
we're a new group with well put together music and lots of songs done...
all we need now is a start...  anybody have a list?

email is preferred... thanx

-- 

---

Life - Eh?  Anyways, just to let you know, everything I've said is my own
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: Odd Arild Meling <oddm@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Club in London
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:04:26 GMT
Originator: oddm@hild.ifi.uio.no



Does anyone know any Industrial Clubs in London?

Odd
oddm@ifi.uio.no
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From: blckjck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brett Alexander Cruden)
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 01:19:32 GMT

In article <51a3wB3w165w@sizone.UUCP> sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra) writes:
>Forgive me for not quoting.
>
>Re:  Can life get any worse than having to sit through Hank Williams Sr. 
>at a Ministry concert.
>
>Not really. The same thing happened here.  I, too, was overcome with that 
>introspective 'get-me-back-in-the-womb' feeling.  I asked a friend why 
>this sort of thing is done.  He didn't know, but I've assumed it's either 
>to 1) Ca everyone down a bit, or 2) make the next band sound _that_ much 
>better.  And when you have a band like Sepeltura playing, you'll want as 
>much assistance as possible.  Holy.  

Well, in Ministry's case, Al is a big fan of country music.  (It's been posted
before, but nobody seems to pay attention).  Al owns a couple of country bars
I've heard...

But it is true that most bands play real cheesy music between sets.  Probably
because of reason (2) above.  It's just filler music, remember...



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From: constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tino)
Subject: Re: Fuel for the "Is it industrial?" fire
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 01:31:03 GMT

In article <5DJ3wB2w165w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca> al@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (haus der luge) writes:
> 
>re:  What Al Jourgenson would say in a Grammy acceptance speech.
> 
> 
>That's very easy -    "SO WHAT ?"

How about: (after copping a feel fromwhatever bimbo gives him the Grammy)

FUCK ME!
FUCK YOU!
FUCK EVERYONE!
FUCK THE CHURCH!
...


Tino
-- 
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From: jlitchfi@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: Al Jourgensen
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:57:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.225636.8083@solace.hsh.se> svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I wonder what projects exept Ministry and Revolting Cocks that
>Al Jourgenson is involved in and if there is anything worth listening
>too.
>
>And is there any plans for Ministry to come to Sweden in a near future?
>If there is.. I guess I will have to go :-)
>I also heard a cover of Skinny Puppys Assimilate when I was at at a concert
>with Pouppe Fabrikk, Cat Rapes Dog, PAGE and some others.. I recomend all of
>them.. PAGE sings in Swedish, so it might be alittle hard for people outside
>Sweden to understand. Anyway.. on what CD with Ministry does Assmilate appear
>on?

Hmmm...I've never heard of Ministry doing a cover of Assimilate, so I think you
are confusing it with "Smothered Hope", which they did on the MIATTTT tour
(since Ogre was hanging around and they needed something useful for him to do, Iguess). Anyways, it was released (live version, obviously) on the "Burning      Inside" single. As far as I know it is out of print. I tried ordering it thru   several record stores, and none had any luck. I finally taped it off a friend ofmine who had a copy. Its not that memorable, and neither are the "12" mixes" of
"Thieves" and "Burning Inside", which sound exactly like the versions on the 
album.
-- 
Welcome to Canada, asshole. The land of gripe and loonie...

jon litchfield
jlitchfi@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
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