Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:26:11 EST
Reply-To:     Thomas Varouhakis <varouhak@ICARUS.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
From:         Thomas Varouhakis <varouhak@ICARUS.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
Subject:      Apeillh polemoy & Skopia.
Comments: cc: HELLAS@american.edu
              16 Nov 1992 03:31:25 -0500
              <9211160838.AA13200@icarus.montclair.edu.montclair.edu>

   > > H istoria poy mas mathan sto sxolio exei na kanei me kapoioys poy zhsan
   > >prin 2000 xronia. Opos omos eipe kai o Levnidas se prohgoymeno mail,
   > >etsi kai gv, den mporv na katalabv to ti sxesh exv me aytoys toys
   > >anthrvpoys. (Kai den ksero an tha ithela na exo kai sxesh me kapoion
   > >polemoxarh, lehlath, tyxodiokth poy oi sygxronoi ellhnes istorikoi ton
   > >xarakthrizoyn 'mega' kai 'ekpolitisth' ... allo froyto omos ayto).
   > >                                                  Dionissis
   > >                                                  Bretagne - France.

"Omorfos kosmos h0ikos aggelika plasmenos".....  Merikes fores aporw
me to mege0os ths afeleias mas (neo-ellhves).  Frixtw st'alh0eia otav
akouw/vlepw Amerikavous va milave gia petrida kai "service" kai mpla
mpla mpla... kai meis pou apo xilliades xrovia priv kai prosfata stov
B' pogosmio polemo oi paterades/papoudes mas polemousav
Italo/germavous m'oti mporousav (sth maxh ths Krhths me tsougraves
kiolas), ligo poli va 0ewroume tous progovous mas kati pou 0aprepe va
vrepwmaste ligo poly.... 0ee kai kurie... Edw oi Germavoi Kavouv duo
pagosmious polemous stov 20-aiwna, katastrefouv thv Eurwph kai
vasavizouv xiliades kosmo, kai twra vgaivouv ligo poli kai leve oti oi
"Nazhdes eixav kai ta kaka tous stoixoia"!!!!!! Kai meis????  Vgaivome
kai kathgorame tov mega-Alexandro kai tous allous, giati ektos apo
tous Perses katesthsan kai tous Indous 2,000-3,000 xrovia
priv....!!!!!!!
Siga ta h0h bebaia autoi tote... Pou va 3erav gia Malboro, kafetereia,
Levi's kai ta lefta tou mpampa, kai "political correctness" ek'tou
asfalous. Kala emeis dev xreiazomaste ex0rous, mporoume kai ta
katafervome movaxoi mas mia xara!
Na kave mia erwthsh...  Pisteuei kaveis oti dixws to strato pou exei
toN"g ISRAEL 0a uphrxe san kratos shmera? Giati dev koitazome tous
Kourdous, Armevious kai allous...  Belpete polous laous (i mhpws
eseis), na xavouv tov upvo tous gi'autous? Edw bgaivouv oi Amerikavoi
kai kordwvovtai pou dialysan autov ton ili0io to Hussein sti Iraq,
movo kai movo gia to petreleo, kai meis pou to 90% twv polemwv tous
kavame uperaspizovtas ta spitia mas, dev 0elwme oute v'akoume gia tous
progovous mas... Av dev eivai afto aisxos st'allh0eia dev katalabainw
ti eivai... Dev htav mexri pro-tivos pou uphrxe kapoio
sxedio-kissinger gia mia ellada-Tourkia????? ksexasate se ti katastash
vriskomastav molis me thn ptwsh ths diktatorias eisbolh Tourkwv sthv
Kypro? As milame gia Eirhvh pou olloi (sta swika tous) 0elome apo 0esh
isxyos.


   > Kai kati allo, epeidn to parapavw mail mou avapse ta lampakia:
   >
   > Kala re su, oi Perses xwris pote va tous kavouv oi Ellnves tipota,
   > nr0av treis fores kai prospa0nsav va mas upodoulwsouv. Epeidn
   > o Megas Aleksavdros apofasise oti kairos eivai va evw0ouv oi Ellnves
   > kai va katastrepsouv mia kai kaln auto to kivduvo, auto tov kavei
   > "polemoxarn, lenlatn, tuxodiwktn" kai ola ta alla xaza pou aradiazeis;;;
   > Ama er0w va sou kapsw to spiti kai epi treis fores glutwseis me
   > tn psuxn sta dovtia, meta ti 0a kaveis; 0a perimeveis va er0w akomn mia
   > fora kai 0a elpizeis oti kai pali kapoios tropos 0a bre0ei gia va
 glutwseis;
   > Logikn pou ftiaxvei eva malli... vaaaa!

   Me sugxwreis alla den thumamai sthn istoria na diabasa pote oti
   oi Indoi prospathusan na epitethoun sthn Ellada oute kai oi
   Aiguptioi telos den kuriarxhse mono stous Perses o megalekos
   alla se pollous allous laous to phre de toso panw tou pou
   katharise ton kalutero tou filo epeidh diafwnouse akoma
   apaitouse na ton proskunane san theo kai alles tetoies istories.
   An loipon theleis na paradideis mathhmata istorias na ta les ola
   kai oxi mono ta misa ;-))

   >
   > Nikos, Ucla
   >
   > YG. Na se bon0nsw kai sta psuxologika sou problnmata: ti sxesn exeis esu
   > m'autous tous Megalous twv 2000 priv;;; Tipota agapnte mou, mnv avnsuxeis.
   > Kai eimai sigouros oti oute kai autoi 0a n0elav va exouv kamoia sxesn
   > mazi sou, opote mporeis va koimasai nsuxos.
   >

>   Nai nomizw oti kanenas apo autous tous tupous tha hthele gia
>   apogono enan anthrwpo pou skeftete kai koitazei kritika gurw tou

Kata thn apopsh mou to movo pou dev skeftesai eivai "kritika", alla
pote dev prokeitai va skefesai "Krhtika"...
                                  =
Dustyxws sta erga mas poly ligo tous miazome... ekei pou aftoi oitav
prwtopwrai SE OTI KI'AN KANAN emeis eimaste apla ouragoi... Kai me
"kritikous eirinistes" aftou tou typou evas 0eos 3erei to pws 0a
uparxwme sto mellov.... "Osoi 3exvave thv Istoria tous tin epalalambavouv"
>
>   duskolh epoxh gia strathlates phgaine na paikseis me ta
>   stratiwtakia sou kai na katatropwseis Perses ;-))))))))))))))
>
Evw esy "kritika" skeftomevos 0aviges eva lako 0abazes to kefali sou
mesa kai 0a perimeves allous mh "kritika" skeftomevous va se swsouv.....
>
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