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From: motto@bucknell.edu (john motto `94)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Oh please...........
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:54:26 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: acrux.cs.bucknell.edu

In article <1bl1msINNsao@network.ucsd.edu>, mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:
|> In article <1bkq9hINNoc9@coral.bucknell.edu> motto@bucknell.edu (john motto `94) writes:
|> >In article <oepc1m600VpK41CEsV@andrew.cmu.edu>, Haw Juin Lin <hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> >|> [his very long article deleted]
|> >
|> >Is this stuff really necessary here?  Do we have to have this??????????????
|> 
|> We have to have this so people like john can post an article that is
|> one line long, and include the original 4000 line article.
|> 
|> C'mon dude, we all saw this once.  If we wanted it, we wrote it to disk,
|> if we didn't, we pressed 'n'.  Your article just brought the whole damn
|> thing back round again.
|> If you want to flame someone for posting too much, just give us a line or two
|> giving the reason for deletion, and post (like I did!).
|> 
|> There's nettiquite, then there's "wake up and figure it out!"
|> Case of the latter.
|> 
|> Michael Breen
|> singing and philosophizing
|> (and *not* flaming, just tired of GnR tabs too)

Well, pal, if you'd notice, I was referring to the upside down cross and
stuff he posted after the article.  I could care less about the G-n-R tab
that he put in it.  I guess I could have deleted it, but I didn't, so I
apologize for that.  I just don't like the upside down cross..that's all.

Sorry for wasting the valuable net space!!!

With just a name and nothing else,

John
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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Callouses
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 22:18:56 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Oct7.091522.3922@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> djones@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Drunk) writes:
>
>        I was wonderin if anybody out there knew of someway to protect
>callouses from water? Only I'd quite like to go swimming a lot but don't wanna
>lose my extremely hard earned bits of skin.

    It is a misconception that swimming or other water exposure will soften
callouses other than for a few minutes.  In fact, swimming in salt water
hardens them slightly.  I wouldn't worry about it, just don't try to play
for a couple of hours after you swim (or shower, etc.).

    I used to be paranoid about this exact thing, but after almost 30 years
of playing I've come to realize that it just isn't true.

-- 
   ******************************************************************
     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ.
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: request for Perhaps Love
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:08:44 GMT
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia

Does anyone have the music for the John Denver song 'Perhaps Love'?


--
The Nightstalker.....




 THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PROGNOSIS: Love is a form of temporary insanity
 curable only by marriage.
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From: arriflex@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (g.e.fister)
Subject: Re: Speaker cabinet information
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:47:14 GMT

From article <ekoPsB1w165w@netlink.cts.com>, by nburrell@netlink.cts.com (Neil Burrell):
> Could any one out there recommend any reference material on building a 
> cabinet for speakers suitable for guitar work?  I am really interested in 
> building a cabinet and buying a pre/power amp as opposed to buying the 
> whole setup.  Does anybody have any advice on the advisability of this 
> and the cost advantage?
> 
> --                    
Go to EV and ask for plans for their test enclosures.  
I'm in the middle of a move and all my EV stuff is in storage
right not.  The plans look pretty easy and the big cost is 
the wood depending on what type you use.  I am convinced 
the people from Messa/Boogie started off with these plans 
when they started building cabinets.  (the dimensions are 
almost exact.)
			greg fister
From: fennig@fennig (Kurt Fennig)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Fostex X-15
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:39:57 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I have got a Fostex X-15 four track that I bought a while back.
Does anyone know what a reasonable price would be to sell it second
hand?
I also want to sell a Yamaha REX50 digital effects processor.  It's
about 5 years old.  Any price estimates?
Thanks.

__________
Kurt Fennig
Mitel Corp.
Ottawa, Ont.
From: toby@cs.man.ac.uk (Toby Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: John McLaughin
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:15:47 GMT
	<basinski-071092151240@lully.biosci.arizona.edu>
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester
In-reply-to: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu's message of 7 Oct 92 22:09:29 GMT

Yes, I believe John played the Shakti stuff in standard tuning. The
sympathetic strings would be retuned each time to notes in the mode of the
piece being played. For the first track on the 1st Shakti album it's
something like E F G# B D... there are 7 of these strings I think. Not only
do they resonate with the mode, but you can hear him explicitly strum these
strings a lot. I think he did this by flicking with the righthand pinky,
which he wore a pick on.

Re the scalloped frets. I remember reading somewhere that John said he
doesn't actually push down, as people would expect, but rather pulls and
pushes the strings much more than normal.

Toby

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:03:10 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <JON.92Oct12113532@zeus.med.utah.edu>, jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd) writes:
> In article <1687DA0E2.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu> TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu writes:
> 
>    I have a Deep Philosophical Question that I hope will inspire some discussion.
>    Which impresses you more, a guitar player who does new and interesting things b
>    y playing around with weird tunings, or a player who does amazing things by wor
>    king within the restrictions of standard tuning? I realize this is probably and
>     unfair question, and I'm not sure how I feel about it. Whattya think?
> 
> what really impresses me is a musician who has a song inside, and then
> uses whatever means are necessary to play it.

Yeah, I agree.  This is what's obviously most important, but the tuning
question matter for guitarists, nevertheless.

Lessee.... guitarists that I admire include Thurston Moore, Lee Ranaldo,
Michael Hedges, Hendrix, SRV, and on and on...  This obviously shows where
my tastes lie if you're familiar with the first 3 guitarists on my list.

I think that alternate tunings allow for more possibilities, and makes it
appear as though the guitarist is coming up with something wildly original
when most of what is original is the tuning.  To come up with something
original in standard is harder, of course, but when it hits, it hits.

Basically, I'm waffling and side with the alternate tuning camp, just for the
sheer possibilities it opens up.  Sure, you probably can't play any Vai
in an alternate tuning, but who wants to?

> --
> jonathan byrd
> jon@apollo.med.utah.edu
-- 
Sean C. Duncan, scd@einstein.bgsu.edu :: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
"The best thing to come out of Ohio is I-75." - Anonymous
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: chord theory
From: Michael.Bremford@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mike Bremford)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:21:08 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.


This helped me heaps when trying to play along with stuff/make up progressions..


	Note:	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
 	Chord:	Maj	Min	Min	Maj	Maj	Min	Dim
 Key	Scale:	Ioni	Dori	Phry	Lydi	Myxo	Aoel	Locr	
+-------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
 C	      |	C	D	E	F	G	A	B     |
 C#	      |	C#	D#	F	F#	G#	A#	C     |
 D	      |	D	E	F#	G	A	B	C#    |
 D#	      |	D#	F	G	G#	A#	C	D     |
 E	      |	E	F#	G#	A	B	C#	D#    |
 F	      |	F	G	A	A#	C	D	E     |
 F#	      |	F#	G#	A#	B	C#	D#	F     |
 G	      |	G	A	B	C	D	E	F#    |
 G#	      |	G#	A#	C	C#	D#	F	G     |
 A	      |	A	B	C#	D	E	F#	G#    |
 A#	      |	A#	C	D	D#	F	G	A     |
 B	      |	B	C#	D#	E	F#	G#	A#    |
+-------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+

Ioni - Ionian		Lydi - Lydian		Locr - Locrian
Dori - Dorian		Myxo - Myxolydian
Phry - Phrygian		Aoel - Aoelian

Okay, let me explain this. Say you're playing along with a song in D major.
(Thats D Ionian mode) So you go down the 'Ioni' column until you find D. Then
you just play the chords in that row. So in the D Ionian mode, you can play
D, Em, F#m, G, A, Bm, C#dim chords and they will sound OK. Say you were playing
something in B Aoelian (Thats natural minor folks.) So, go down the 'Aoel' column
until you find a B. Lo and behold, you can play any of the chords in that row and
they will sound ok. Coincedentally (sp) they are the same as for key of D major.

Aha! but it doesn't stop there. Youre playing along and have found that a song
has the chords G#min, B and C#min. So look 'em up. You can usually tell the key
of a song by the first chord thats played, or the most 'obvious' chord, but thats
not important right now. So this song could be in the 'key' of: B or E.
Say you've found the most 'obvious chord was the C#m. Then go along the rows for
B and E until you find C#. SO, the actual mode of this song could be either:
 C# Dorian or C# Aoelian.

I'm sure you can work it out from here...

	Cheers... Mike
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From: pkor@phoenix (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Date This Les Paul
Organization: Ripoff Industries
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:49:18 GMT


Dixie Cup (loffit@wam.umd.edu) wrote:

: from Rob Spray) is that the 1st and 5th digits are the date.  If the serial
: number were 80119520 it would mean it was made in 1989.  Actually, the

	Right, from 1977 onwards....

	Pasi


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From: kimple@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: lefty woes
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:43:04 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1992Oct8.013312.19038@ra.msstate.edu>, tsw1@Isis.MsState.Edu (Thomas S Wilson) writes:
> Some of these lefties are a little too obsessed... So obsessed that hthey 
> don't see the adventage of playing right handed guitars. I started out
> playing violin, so AI had no choice, but if you think about it, on a left
> handed guitar, you RIGHT hand is doing all the work! Why do you put yourselves
> though this? just because you insist on being a lefty? Hell I gave up on 
> those damn left handed scissors long ago. they were ugly... now that I think 
> about it.. left handed guitars are pretty ugly too! =:) but at least they 
> don't have green handles and "LEFTY" stamped on the sides.
> 
> -Scott
> -- 

Man, I get tired of this argument...that Lefties are really at an advantage. If
that's so damn true, then why don't righties play lefty guitars?!? Do we tell
women to play like men? Blacks to play like whites?

Hey, I was forced in school music classes to play guitar right handed. It felt
too damn awkward to me. Afterwards, I flipped the damn thing over, and
progresses much quicker, thank you.

As you may know, there are various degrees of left-handiness. I, for instance,
bat right handed, but need a  lefty mitt. Several friends of mine are lefty,
bat lefty, but play guitar and drums righty. So, whatever works, right?

I could give a f*@# about being ugly - i think my strat copy is a very nice
guitar anyways. My Guild is kinda ugly, no matter if it what orientation, but
it's still a cool guitar. Oh yeah - my bass was righty, but it doesn't look
any different now, 'cause it's a Steinberger-copy. Cheap, but effective.


jd
> 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: elee@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Salty Freckles)
Subject: Re: lefty woes
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:00:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.013312.19038@ra.msstate.edu> wilson@ee.msstate.edu writes:
>Some of these lefties are a little too obsessed... So obsessed that hthey 
>don't see the adventage of playing right handed guitars. I started out
>playing violin, so AI had no choice, but if you think about it, on a left
>handed guitar, you RIGHT hand is doing all the work! Why do you put yourselves
>though this? just because you insist on being a lefty? Hell I gave up on 
>those damn left handed scissors long ago. they were ugly... now that I think 
>about it.. left handed guitars are pretty ugly too! =:) but at least they 
>don't have green handles and "LEFTY" stamped on the sides.

I'm not sure if you're being tongue-in-cheek when you say this, but it's been
shown that it takes more coordination to pick and strum than it does to fret
notes. This is why it's natural for a left-handed player to pick up the guitar
and fret with his RIGHT hand and strum with his LEFT. Vice versa for right-
handed players. So it is the picking hand that does more work than the fretting
hand. The easiest way to prove it is to give a person who's never played guitar
a guitar and see which way he or she tries to play it. 9 times out of 10 it
will be the "normal" way.

Then there are those ambidextrous people, but they're all freaks anyway... :-)

> |||    Scott Wilson              |||    "Paradise is exactly like where    |||
> . .    wilson@ee.msstate.edu     . .     you are right now, only much,     .

Gene Lee
elee@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
From: holtslander@skyfox.usask.ca
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: RE: Alternate tunings
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:33:46 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

As one who plays with alternative tunings and standard tunings- I'll
use whatever works the best for the song.  I'm not worried about impressing
anyone.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: metrynis@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Matthew E. Tryniski)
Subject: Re: Speed picking and heavy metal cord riffs
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 22:38:52 EDT

In article <1992Oct9.032309.3437@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rbanksjr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Richard E. Banks Jr.) writes:
>
>Question 1: What is your technique for speed picking single strings and
>cords?  How do you hold the pick?  How hard do you pick?  I'm semi-new
>to guitar playing and have been trying to peed pick but its not working
>for me.
>

Not an exact answer to your question, but I like the book SPEED METAL
by Dave Celentano, which definately addresses the issues you are interested
in. I got mine from Musician's Friend for about $15 (comes with a cassette).

The exercises are (almost) all exerpts from classical pieces, generally
for violin. They sound very cool through a distorted electric with a bit
of reverb.
From: gavin@praxis.co.uk (Gavin Finnie)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: chord theory
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:08:05 GMT
Organization: Praxis, Bath, U.K.

egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>2)  In classical music, there is a chart indicating which chords can follow
>    which and which chords can precede which.

>	In major:                                  +---
>                                 /--------------\     /                  
>		iii---+ vi ---+ IV ---+ vii' ---+ I --
>		        /       ii       V
>        	       /________________/

>	I know this is hard to read. Sorry.  ---+ is arrow whose direction
>	can't be reversed.  If the + is missing either direction is ok.
>	Note,  I can go to anything.  IV goes to I, but ii does not. 
>	Top chords can go to chord below but bottom can't go up.
>	vi goes to V and V goes to vi.  vi does not go to vii' or vice versa.
>	The only way to get to iii is from I (iii is not common in classical).
>        ii goes to either vii' or V. V goes to either vi or I.
>        IV can go to ii, vii', V or I.

Thanks for posting this. I'd never seen it before and it looks a useful
framework.

I would add that in popular music, iii is more common. What's more, it's not
unusual to find iii followed by IV or ii. Eg I-iii-IV-V (C-Em-F-G in C) or
I-iii-ii-V (C-Em-Dm-G) are fairly common pop chord sequences (though not as
common as I-vi-IV-V / C-Am-F-G). 

>	In minor:
>                                                               +---
>                                          /-----------------\     /
>		VII ---+ III ---+ VI ---+ iv  ---+ vii' ---+ i ---
>                                  /       ii'       V
>                                 /_________________/

>	Note in minor I included VII which I didn't include in the diatonic
>	chords in 1) above.  The reason is that in minor there are more 
>	available chords depending if you are in natural minor, harmonic minor,
>	or melodic minor.  In 1) I assumed harmonic which is most common.

Here, I would say that VII is often followed by VI in popular music,
eg i-VII-VI-V or Am-G-F-E.
(For those with long memories, The Ventures' "Walk Don't Run" is a classic
example!)

Gavin Finnie                             email:  gavin@praxis.co.uk
Praxis Systems plc                                       
20 Manvers Street                        phone: +44-225-444700
Bath BA1 1PX, England                    fax:   +44-225-465205 
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From: GEN2022@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (RYAN ORLANDO)
Subject: 1975 gibson Les Paul pickups
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:04:29 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.13.SMU

I recently bought a 75' gibson les paul in excellent condition.  This
particular model has the two small humbuckers, and they are really quiet..
I tried raising them closer to the strings, which increased the noise a 
litle bit, but it's still quiet....I also can't get a good distortion sound out
 of them....and i play a lot of metal etc. My question is....does anyone know
if they still make these small versions of humbuckers or would i have to bore a
hole into the guitar and replace them with regular size humbuckers....Which
would lower the value of my guitar( not having original pickups )..??????
Anyone have any suggestions?

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From: till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman)
Subject: Re: humbucker theory (was Ibanez hum)
Reply-To: till@lucid.com
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
	<1992Oct16.020758.7971@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:52:49

   From: rbanksjr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Richard E. Banks Jr.)
   Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
   Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 02:07:58 GMT

   Do covered pickups reduce hum more than unconvered pickups?

There are about two dozen distinctly different sources and types of hum
that you'll get with an electric guitar and amp.  Each has a different fix,
and a fix for one is unlikely to help any of the others, and might even
make the others worse.  This has the unfortunate effect of making any
discussion about hum useless without a *lot* of specifics.  The best
solution I know is to just learn about electronics.

That said, yes, correctly grounded electrically conductive pickup covers
will reduce a specific type of hum (hum electrostatically induced on the
coils).  Incorrectly grounded pickup covers can make hum worse.  

And interpreting your question literally, given the selection of pickups
available on the market, covered pickups in general have less hum than
non-covered pickups, mostly for reasons having nothing to do with the
covers themselves (and thus there are exceptions).  

  -- Don
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From: cgobs@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Charles Gobs)
Subject: Squire (Squier?)
Keywords: price
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:42:09 GMT





Anybody know how much Fender Squires(Squiers?) usually cost?


A salesman over the phone said something about there being two kinds
of guitars with the Squire name. Will somebody elaborate for me?


I don't mind if you post the response, but I would like an emailed
response too.

Thanks,
chip 

cgobs@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
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From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Subject: Re: Mucking around with Nuts..
Summary: The price of a new nut
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:39:14 GMT

In article <Bw1E6K.39A@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Michael.Bremford@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mike Bremford) writes:
> 
> I have an el-cheapo strat which I was checking over last night, having just got
> 
>   Basically its too deep. instead of the grooves being half the depth of the
> string as they are supposed to be, on the top strings espiecally they are far too
> deep.I can't really afford a new nut (I cant *believe* how expensive parts ar
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Any bright ideas???
> 
> 	Cheers... Mike

	I think a blank nut can be had for under 10 bucks. I bought a bone
	blank nut a few years back for 6.00. The micarta nut on my Strat works
	pretty well. I had it cut from a blank and installed for 25.00 from
	a luthier.
	
	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!

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From: harper@convex.csc.FI (Rob Harper)
Subject: Re: Mucking around with Nuts..
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network Project - FUNET
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 08:11:01 GMT

In <59360002@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> quint@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Quint) writes:

>I mixed up some epoxy and put just a little bit in the nut groove for the
>low E string.  It dries clear so its not visible, and its hard enough to
>hold up the string without getting worn down.  Raise it just a little at 
>first, and if its not enough (as was the case with me) you can raise it more.
>If you find that its too high, or you don't like it later, you can file
>it out or chip it out with a sharp knife.  I have had no problems with 
>mine in the 3+ years since I did it, and it fixed my problem.  

I recently replaced a nut on my Fender acoustic. I bought a solid plastic
nut and shaped it with sandpaper to look like the original. I used a fine 
fret saw to cut the grooves in the nut for the strings... I cut the second
groove to low so that there was some buzz from the string on the fret.
I solved the problem by puting a small piece of felt over the groove and
placing the string on top of it. It was quick and dirty and it worked.

-=ROB=-
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