From: ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata)
Subject:  REPOST [CFD/CFA] fj.rec.travel -> fj.rec.travel.{japan,world,air,misc}
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.
Distribution: fj
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 04:59:59 GMT

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                 CFD/CFA (Call for Discussion / Approval)
      fj.rec.travel --> fj.rec.travel.{japan, world, air, misc}
        fj.rec.travel$B$rF|K\!"@$3&!"9R6u!"$=$NB>$KJ,3d$9$kDs0F(B
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fj.rec.travel $B$NJ,3d$rDs0F$7$^$9!#5DO@!?>5G'$r$*4j$$$7$^$9!#(B

    fj.rec.travel.japan           Traveling in Japan
                                  $BF|K\9qFb$NN99T$K$D$$$F(B
    fj.rec.travel.world           Traveling all over the world
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    fj.rec.travel.air             Topics on air travel
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    fj.rec.travel.misc            Miscellaneous topics on travel
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