Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: PC and Mac OEs (was Re: 1 Thing Windows can do but OS/2 can't.)
From: stuartw@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Stuart Woolford)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:40:44 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:

>In article <g+mmdpn@lynx.unm.edu> jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth) writes:
>>
>>And, windows and OS/2 capable machines don't cost more than many imported 
>>cars.  For less than half the price, you can get easily 2-3 times the 
>>power and features.  Also, look at the price of expansion hardware (from
>>drives to modems to printers to RAM) and see how expensive it is to get
>>a 5 year old Mac up to the modern performance levels compared to the price 
>>to do the same for a 5 year old pc.  Or can you add a new, faster mother-
>>board to a Mac?

>Well a 5 year old PC (circa 1987) would be about ready for the bin. If it
>hasn't fallen apart by now, it will be so underpowered as to be useless
>under Windows. Yer old Mac still pushes System 7 along at a speed that would
>put a lot of 386SX/16's and 20's with same RAM and Hard disc to shame.

except system-7 will not run on most 5 year old mac's...

>Agreed some expansions are expensive, but in both camps if you want the
>latest turbo-nutter model of PC/Mac it is always advisable to start from
>scratch.

>>Besides, who'd want a machine that has a butt-ugly desktop?  The windows/
>>dialog boxes are very drab on macs.  They need to add color to the windows,
>>use 2 button mice, have pull-down menus stay open on a click, and add a
>>way to do everything without needing a mouse.  Windows (and I would bet
>>OS/2) allows all of these.  Keyboard shortcuts often take much less time
>>than dragging the pointer to the top, opening a menu, selecting the item
>>and returning to the program.

>Colour. Unless colour is used sparingly it destroys the interaction of
>the desktop. I know this, I DO HCI !!

>Why do you hold your Windows apps in Program manager and not in the filer
>like any other GUI. Becasue Windows is so bloody dumb, it needs info on the
>files before it executes them so it doesn't wipe the machine out. Any
>you can only hold the Windows of Windows programs (with icons) in the Program
>manager window.  Why for god sake ?? (esp if you have minimised the Program
>Manager icon). It is a serious pain in the arse not to be able to go to
>the directory and click to start the App from it's directory (without resorting
>to File manager which then looses the win.ini stuff about it).

you can.. or use Norton Desktop, or Appbar ( for that NEXT look.. ).

>Don't give me Mac desktop is butt ugly ...........

>Windows looks like someone has eaten a technicolour lunch, drank some
>blackcurrent juice and barfed all over the monitor. It is TOO colourful

then change the color setup, there are about 2 dozen standards, and you
can easily make your own..

>I agree about the fact the single button on a Mac mouse IS a pain. Though
>stop for a minute. How many of your Windows applications use the right
>mouse (count them NOW !!).

>Keyboard shortcuts. Have you used a Mac recently. I think your memory is
>failing. Use a Mac, take a look at all the shortcuts (esp in Word 5 for
>the Mac. Many of the shortcuts are different to Word for Windows. Does MS
>have a clue about look and feel !?). Finder has shortcuts aswell as do
>most/all Mac apps.

all those neat shortcuts...but you have to bring up the menu to find out
what they are !!!!...in windows you can use the menu from the keyboard
( great for touch-typeists.. ) from the start, without having to memorize
three hundred different key combinations..


>Neil
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