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From: laufer@CS.NYU.EDU (Konstantin Laufer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Buerokratie (2. und letzter Teil)
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:49:41 GMT
Reply-To: laufer@cs.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University

Eine kafkaeske aber wahre Geschichte zum Thema "Ein kleines Stueck
deutsche Kultur":

Am 13. April habe ich beim deutschen Konsulat in New York einen neuen
Reisepass beantragt.  Heute -- dreieinhalb Monate spaeter, also zwei
Wochen nach den urspruenglich versprochenen 3 Monaten -- kam die
Benachrichtigungskarte, der neuen Pass laege zur Abholung bereit.

Ausgestellt wurde der Pass von der Berliner Zentrale am 23. April.
Dann trat er eine Odyssee an, die mit einem weiteren Stempel durch das
hiesige Konsulat exakt am 23. Juli endete.

Wo kommen denn die drei Monate her?  Die muss wohl sich wohl jemand in
der BRD ausgedacht haben, da in der Schweiz ein neuer Pass beim
deutschen Konsulat *auch* drei Monate dauert.  Hat der Pass wohl
hauptsaechlich in der BRD gewartet?  Oder hier auf dem Konsulat?  Oder
hat das Schiff so lang gebraucht?  (Die Konsularpost geht nur 3 Tage.)

Einen chilenischen Pass zum Beispiel gibt es AM SELBEN TAG!  Oder
einen mexikanischen.  Oder auch einen philippinischen.  Bretthart.

Es folgt der erste Teil der Geschichte fuer die, die ihn damals
verpasst haben:

> In article <1992Apr15.042531.15314@leland.Stanford.EDU>, bergmann@leland.Stanford.EDU (Annette Bergmann) writes:
>> In article <9204142354.AA01208@HARRISON.CS.NYU.EDU> laufer@cs.nyu.edu writes:
>>>
>>>"Wir stellen keine Belege aus. Steht ja alles in unserem Kassenbuch, und das
>>>machen wir ja schon seit 10 Jahren so." -- Konsularbeamter der BRD, NYC, auf
>>>die Bitte nach einem Beleg ueber die fuer einen Reisepassantrag entrichtete
>>>Gebuehr von $18 (Bearbeitungsdauer: 3 Monate)
>> 
>> Ah ja, die drei goldenen Regeln des deutschen Buerokraten:
>> 
>> 	(1) Das haben wir schon immer so gemacht.
>> 	(2) Das haben wir noch nie so gemacht.
>> 	(3) Da koennte ja jeder kommen.
> 
> Das beste und haerteste dabei kommt erst noch.  Die Beamtin am
> Passschalter, nachdem sie mir gesagt hatte, dass es 3 Monate dauert,
> bis ich meinen neuen Pass bekomme, hat naemlich auch noch gefragt:
> "Sollen wir denn Ihren alten Pass gleich dabehalten?"  Und zwar in
> einem Ton, als ob sie mir damit einen Gefallen taete.  Dabei ist schon
> allein der Gedanke absurd, 3 Monate in einem fremden Land ohne Pass,
> also gewissermassen "unpaesslich," zu sein.  Und ich haette
> wahrscheinlich nicht einmal einen Beleg fuer die Abgabe des Passes
> bekommen, waere also im Zweifelsfall staatenlos gewesen.

--
-Konstantin 	             "Es isch es chogge Zue-ueg mit dene Chaibe Boelle,
[laufer@cs.nyu.edu]		         die branned choggemaessig i die Auge."
[laufer@schauinsland.cs.nyu.edu]	                 -- Die Schweizermacher
From: uk02757@nx25.mik.uky.edu (Jeffrey T Hazelwood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: GERMAN OLYMPIC TEAM(S)
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:11:02 GMT
Reply-To: uk02757@ms.uky.edu
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I thought you guys were united??? What's the deal with two olympic teams?
I saw the ex-east german flag, usw.

Koennen Sie mir irgend jemand sagen was passiert ist???
Warum gibt es noch zwei Teams??  Oder, hab' ich etwas misverstanden??
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From: slnfp@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Trip to Germany.  Help wanted.  Urgent
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:02:45 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hi Friends,
           This is Koti Reddy Kalakota.  Iam planning to go to
Berlin, Germany.  I may Go on Sep28 to attend a conference there.
I have a paper to present over there.  I dont have any friends
there.  I would appreciate if some one give me information regarding
hotels (resonable prices) and weather that time.  I would be greatful to you
If you can give me address of Indians you know over there so that I can 
contact them and find if they can receive me.  It doesnt matter to me 
who ever it is.  I can meet your parents and friends if possible if
you want me to.  Please let me know.
i can call you if you give me your telephone #.
Friendly yours,
Koti Reddy.
Phone (801) 750 3926 (office)
      (801) 750 5787 (residence).

Please mail to my E-mail address;  Slnfp@cc.usu.edu
From: deryd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Dery David)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: German universities
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:42:00 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Guten Tag.
 Ich spreche nicht gut deutsch jetzt, so ich muss spreche english.
Tut mir leid... Ich spreche auch franzosisch aber Sie konnen antworten im
Deutsch. Ich habe mein worterbuch :-) .

 I am looking for adresses to write to in order to information on German 
universities. Mostly the big onehen and Berlin... I looking for
graduate programs in economics (i a M.sc in economics) or in Computer science
(i have only taken a year as a undergraduate student...)

 Any information on tuition, address or best universities would be appreciate.
I imagine that some universities have better reputations than others...

Danke Schon.
David


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: oliver@cs.toronto.edu (Oliver Schulte)
Subject: Re: di verses
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:46:26 GMT

Wer ist denn Katrin Krabbe, und wovon hat man sie freigesprochen?

Dankeschoen,

Oliver
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: oliver@cs.toronto.edu (Oliver Schulte)
Subject: Re: Question About German Cinema
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:48:56 GMT

In article <9207302226.AA14311@LANG2.CS.NYU.EDU> laufer@cs.nyu.edu writes:

>This is certainly true.  On one side, it reflects the on average
>higher education level of the urban Swiss as compared to the urban
>German; 

>-- 
>-Konstantin 	             "Es isch es Chogge Zue-ueg mit dene Chaibe Boelle,
>[laufer@cs.nyu.edu]		         die branned choggemaessig i die Auge."
>[laufer@schauinsland.cs.nyu.edu]	                 -- Die Schweizermacher

This is an interesting claim. Is it based on actual studies among the 
populations, a view of the respective education systems, personal impressions,
or what? 

If this difference is real, how would you explain it?

Curiously,

Oliver

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Department of Computer Science        or
University of Toronto                 oliver@ai.toronto.edu
From: "franz hrazdira" <franz.hrazdira@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: unterschied
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:22:36 EST
Reply-To: "franz hrazdira" <franz.hrazdira@canrem.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Canada Remote Systems



             Kann mir hier jemand den Unterschied zwischen

             einer Henne und einem weissen Blutko"rperchen

             klahr machen?

             _____________________________________________

             Vor Jahren hat mir einmal jemand gesagt, dass
             ein weisses Blutko"rperchen ein Eiweissscheib-
             chen sei. Natu"rlich wa"re es auch mo"glich
             eine Henne als Eischeisweibchen zu bezeichnen!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP (Rick Harrison)
Subject: names of plant species
Reply-To: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:42:10 GMT

 
I am having a hard time finding the German words (if any)
for the following plant species.  Any help would be appreciated.
 
breadfruit (Artocarpus altilis)
cattail (Typha angustifolia)
coca (Erythroxylon)
ginseng (Panax quinquefolium)
kelp (Laminariales sp., Fucales sp.)
kola (Cola)
kudzu (Pueraria lobata)
mustard (Brassica hirta, B. nigra)
oregano (Origanum vulgare)
pepper (hot/sweet/bell peppers - Capsicum)
safflower (Carthamus tinctorius)
tamarind (Tamarindus indica)
 
Danke sehr.

Rick Harrison (uunet!jwt!bbs-hrick)
From: laufer@CS.NYU.EDU (Konstantin Laufer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Question About German Cinema
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:26:15 GMT
Reply-To: laufer@cs.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University

In article <1992Jul30.201453.11433@colorado.edu>, citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:
> In Zurich (which of course isn't Germany but it might be of interest anyway) 
> almost all films are shown in their original versions with German and French 
> subtitles.  Outside Zurich (and probably Geneva, too), you're more likely to 
> see a dubbed film.

This is certainly true.  On one side, it reflects the on average
higher education level of the urban Swiss as compared to the urban
German; on the other side, the Swiss' being interested in and more
used to dealing with foreigners and foreign cultures.  

Many Germans are actually turned off by having to read subtitles.

-- 
-Konstantin 	             "Es isch es Chogge Zue-ueg mit dene Chaibe Boelle,
[laufer@cs.nyu.edu]		         die branned choggemaessig i die Auge."
[laufer@schauinsland.cs.nyu.edu]	                 -- Die Schweizermacher
From: S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Gruess Gott?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 13:31:33 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft Informatik, Uni Karlsruhe
Distribution: world
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X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <1992Jul20.033159.3604@walter.cray.com> matt@cray.com writes:

>  "Mahlzeit" is not an exclusively Sueddeutscher greeting. It's very common
>  up here im Norden. Another variation is "Meun" (not sure of the spelling)
                                            ^^^^
>  which is short for "Guten Morgen". Some other greeting/farewell forms:
Usual spelling: 'Moin'.
Used almost exclusively in Northern Germany or by people from there,
mostly doubled: 'Moin, moin'.
That *may* derive from 'Guten Morgen' but that is NOT the meaning!
'Moin' is considered an appropriate greeting no matter what time of
day it is.

>  "Shoener Feuerabend", "Tschuessie", "Gruessie", and the ever popular 
            ^^^^^^^^^^ Feierabend (=day off)
>  "Geht Los!"...:)

Alemannic/Bavarian alternatives: 'Servus' (=hello *or* goodbye), 'ade'
(=goodbye; in some places very unusual), 'ciao' (like in Italian), 
'gruess Gottle' (parodistic).

MfG,
        Olaf
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From: miller@FS1.cam.nist.gov (Bruce R. Miller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: back to reality #2
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:31:28 GMT
Organization: NIST - Computing and Applied Mathematics Laboratory


In article <1992Jul22.195611.23746@compu.com>, Fred Rump from home writes:
> Mittlerweile ist er in Spanien gelandet. Freitag gehts nach Italien and dann 
> weiter nach Griechenland. Muss doch schoen sein, nichtwahr?
> Fred 

Ja, aber was ist mit seine wilde Freundin?  Hmm?
[Nosey nosey...]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: wolfi@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Schwanke)
Subject: Re: postal addresses in Germany ...
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:07:17 GMT

wombat@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Jeffrey Hess) writes:

>I am trying to send some mail to Germany, but I'm a bit confused
>about the current ways of addressing them.
>
>It used to be that to send a letter to Frankfurt, you'd write
>	 D-6000 Frankfurt 40
>	 West Germany
>
>Then I thought after unification this had to change into
>	 W-6000 Frankfurt 40
>	 Germany
>
>(or O-[zipcode] for (ost) east germany).  Is this still true? 

Yes. the D is for Germany, the W is for the western part.
Strictly speaking, the W or O are part of the postal code now.
So you write D-W-6000 Frankfurt 40 (the additional word 'Germany'
should not be needed, but I think the convention to use national
car signs in front of the zip codes is valid for Europe only).

Someone pointed out that postal employees can read more than zip
codes. That might be true :), but it takes time for them to look
the code up if it's incomplete, so you better put W or O.
After all, what are postal codes for.

>I know that all the ZIP codes at one point were supposed to be
>renumbered to include the new states, but has this happened 
>already?  And if not, when will it be done?

In summer 93 I believe, they'll be 5 digit. Recently the Bundespost
publicished the assignements of the first digits to the individual
states. They'll be ordered counterclockwhise, beginning in Sachsen
with 0 (which caused heavy protests there).

>Thanks for the help.
>- Mike -


Wolfgang

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: me@grmbl.saar.de (Martin Emmerich)
Subject: Re: back to reality #2
Keywords: son
Reply-To: me@grmbl.saar.de
Organization: ME Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:59:03 GMT

In <pebi.711647649@khamsin.aem.umn.edu> pebi@aem.umn.edu (Peter A. Bidian) writes:

>Ich lch mich tot, das 'kleine Bernchen' 6'8" ungefaehr 2.03m is unterwegs
>und die Eltern machen sich sorgen.

Na und? Ich war mit 12.5 Jahren auch schon 1.92 m lang. Was soll
das also?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: pkss@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (philip.k.sikora)
Subject: know any Hendershaws?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:19:08 GMT
Keywords: help

Hi,
I'm looking for any Hendershaws out there.  I've recently found out that the 
name is a more recent derivitive of Hendershot which is supposedly german,
hence the posting here.  I'll take any leads to anyone living or dead.
Please don't post here as I don't read this group.
Thanks.
phil
pks@neptune.att.com
201-386-6720
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Subject: Freunde suchen ...address correction
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:48:05 GMT


Hallo alle!

	Vor drei Jahren, studierte ich in Erlangen (was damals West
Deutschland war) und ich suche nach jemanden der in Erlangen wohnt.  Der, den
ich suche, heisst Jaffer Mehjri(sp) und der kommt aus Tunis (aber wohnt
in Erlangen).  Wenn das ueberhaupt klar ist und jemand den Jaffer kennt,
bitte e-mail mir seine addresse.

Es gibt auch ein Freund von mir der in Tuebingen wohnt.  Der heisst Karl Wood.
Der is Amerikaner udn wir haben in highschool in den USA zusammen studiert.



				Ich danke euch fur ihr Geduld...

					tschuss


					Donald F. Bora

				<dbora@ils.nwu.edu>

die netzaddresse die ich vorher gab war falsch...
die addresse hier ist die richtige...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: mstede@cs.toronto.edu (Manfred Stede)
Subject: How do I read de.* groups?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:42:49 GMT

I know this point was discussed here recently, but I didn't pay
attention, because there was no de. group that interested me. Now
there is one, and thus I'd be happy if anyone gave me a hint on
how to subscribe to a de.bla.bla newsgroup ?!

Thx,
manfred

mstede@ai.toronto.edu               My Canada includes Florida.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: Richter@LRZ.LRZ-Muenchen.DBP.DE (Helmut Richter)
Subject: Re: Gruess Gott?
Reply-To: Richter@lrz.lrz-muenchen.dbp.de
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:21:13 GMT

nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman Kraft) writes:

>In article <l6dmfuINNl5u@west.west.sun.com> markk@sagredo.West.Sun.COM (Mark Kampe) writes:
>>I had always assumed that "Gruess Gott" was a very natural contraction of a
>>greeting closely related to the old English "God give you good day" (which
>>we have contracted to "good day").

>I have enjoyed the various discussions that have grown from my question
>about "Gruess Gott", but the original question has been lost.

I'm not an etymologist but I have lived in Bavaria for 36 years now.
I have heard people greeting each other with many phrases like:

Gruess Dich Gott!
Gruess Dich!
Gruess Gott!
Gruess Sie Gott!

of course with "Griass Di" instead of the German "Gruess Dich".
Especially the first phrase leads to the conclusion that the full 
wording should be

Es gruesse Dich Gott! (May God greet you!)

BTW, analogous phrases are used for saying goodbye, with the word
"Behuet Dich" (Bavar. "Bfiad Di") instead of "Gruess Dich". 
Here, the meaning (May God save you) is more obvious, but also there
abbreviations are used that do not make sense because the sentence is
incomplete, e.g.:

Bfia God!      Behuet Gott!  (Whom?)
Bfiad Eana!    Behuet Sie!   (Who?)

Hope this clarifies things.

Bfiad Eich!
Helmut
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: Onno.Meyer@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Onno Meyer)
Subject: WEU/NATO/Deutsche vor Jugoslavien?!?
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:48:44 GMT

Ich habe vor einigen Tagen eine Nachricht geschrieben, in der ich nach
Meinungen ueber die "Bayern" und die Seeaufklaerer in/ueber der Adria
fragte. Daraus ist eine nette Diskussion ueber den Wehr/Kriegsdienst
geworden, doch ich warte noch immer auf Kommentare ueber _deutsche_
Truppen vor Jugoslavien, was meiner Ansicht nach - nach nur 50 Jahren -
ein Unding ist.

Some days ago I wrote a message asking about german forces in/over the
adriatic sea(?). The result was a discussion about our military service,
but I'm still waiting for comments about german forces in/near yugoslavia.
(I think that 50 years after wwII german forces should stay far away from
that area.)

Die Fregatte "Niedersachsen" ist uebrigens ausgelaufen, um die "Bayern"
abzuloesen.
By the way, the frigate(?) "Niedersachsen" is on her way to replace the
"Bayern".
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From: RSA@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Public access computers in HESS OLDERNDORF?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:19:00 GMT


I have a friend who is going back to germany and she is wondering
whether she could get an account on a public access computer
near her home town. Her home town is HESS OLDENDORF (is it the
province?) and the street is FRIEDRICLSBURGER. So if you happen
to know a place close by (i.e. within a local telephone call distance)
please let me know. 
Also, I would like to know whether UNIVERSITAT OLDENBURG is connected
to internet, if so how difficult/easy to get an account there.

Thanks in advance,

RSA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: lamberts@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Stefan Lamberts)
Subject: Re: postal addresses in Germany ...
Originator: lamberts@sunbode25.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:16:18 GMT


In a previous article, wombat@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Jeffrey Hess) says:

>I am trying to send some mail to Germany, but I'm a bit confused
>about the current ways of addressing them.
>
>It used to be that to send a letter to Frankfurt, you'd write
>	 D-6000 Frankfurt 40
>	 West Germany
>
>Then I thought after unification this had to change into
>	 W-6000 Frankfurt 40
>	 Germany
>
>(or O-[zipcode] for (ost) east germany).  Is this still true? 
>I know that all the ZIP codes at one point were supposed to be
>renumbered to include the new states, but has this happened 
>already?  And if not, when will it be done?

From outside Germany the addres would be
	D W8000 Muenchen 40
	Germany
or
	D O8000 Leipzig (I'm not sure weather Leipzig's ZIP is 8000)
	Germany
Either "D" or "Germany" is obsolete but I usually use both.

Ofcourse your letter will reach its destination if you don't write W or O
infront of the ZIP code. (German post employies can read more than just
numbers, W and O :-)). It's just easier for them if you ad the prefix.

Inside Germany if there is no prefix the default is the part of Germany
where you mailed the letter.


Stefan
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From: silber@orfeo.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Silber)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: How do I read de.* groups?
Date: 29 Jul 1992 17:21:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: orfeo

In article <92Jul27.154239edt.47891@neat.cs.toronto.edu> mstede@cs.toronto.edu (Manfred Stede) writes:
>I know this point was discussed here recently, but I didn't pay
>attention, because there was no de. group that interested me. Now
>there is one, and thus I'd be happy if anyone gave me a hint on
>how to subscribe to a de.bla.bla newsgroup ?!
>
>Thx,
>manfred
>
>mstede@ai.toronto.edu               My Canada includes Florida.

 Well, I guess you ask your news adminstrator to pick them up, on our
 net, some of the de. newsgroups have been showing up from time to time.
 (I use rn, and when I start it , it always says 'searching for new
 newsgroups'. I don't know where it looks for them, and i don't know what
 controls this function, maybe it is one of the settings that rn reads in
 the user's startup file called '.newsrc')
From: gt0042a@prism.gatech.EDU (KRASLE,DARIN EDWARD)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Bitte um Informationsmaterial ueber Berlin (in English)
Keywords: Berlin
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:35:53 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


I am giving a presentation on Berlin for a seminar on business and technical
German and am seeking information.  Does anyone know if the Industrie-
und Handelskammer Berlin has an E-mail address?  Are there any other 
Buros that I can get material from, particularly with E-mail adresses?

Also, what films have good footage in Berlin?  Wings of Desire has quite
a bit.  Does anyone know of others?

danke	dek

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From: JOHANN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Johann Pretorius)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Dusseldorf: Mainframe connection. Help !
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:26:36 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System


  This is really for a friend of mine living in Dusseldorf.
He is just getting into the modem and mainframe fever and
would like to know how to go about signing on to a server
of some kind, or (like) Compuserve, etc. in the Dusseldorf
area.  Is there a University that would allow him to have
an account ?  Or any other options that are open to him
would be appreciated.  One other thing?  How would he
E-mail me from Dusseldorf ?  Would my address -
JOHANN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU be sufficient ?  Or would he have
to add more to that ?

  Many thanks.
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