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From: lmorris@mdd.comm.mot.com (Larry Morris)
Subject: Re: 4 layer board?
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:04:45 GMT

In <BtBp6v.AJE@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> ptran@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:

>In article <1992Aug20.162411.10149@ichips.intel.com> smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~) writes:
>>
>>Yes, the sb-16 is offer true 44.1 record, and is a 4 layer board (less noise

>What exactly is meant by a "4 layer board"?  I've also heard of a 486-50
>motherboard that doesn't work properly because it isn't a "4 layer board".
>Anyone care to explain?

A 2 layer board has traces on both sides (2 layers)  This means power and
ground lines must be run as traces along with all the other signals.  A 4
layer board could be thought of as two 2-layer boards sandwiched together 
(with vias between the boards).  A typical 4 layer board uses the inner two 
layers as power and ground planes.  No more traces.  The entire layer becomes
power or ground.  Offers reduced noise characteristics.  There can also be 6 or
more layer boards, although I have never done more than 4.

More layers = higher cost and harder to troubleshoot (can't very well solder
a connection on the inner layers).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: holmes@mrx.webo.dg.com (Chris Holmes)
Subject: need .ROL file format 
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:46:59 GMT
Reply-To: holmes@mrx.webo.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corporation, Westborough, MA

I'm interested in writing a program that will read in a .ROL file (Adlib
card format) and print it out as sheet music.  (Of course, if any of you
know of such a beast, I'd like to hear about that, too!)  Only problem 
is I need the file format so I can figure out what the notes are.

Thanks in advance for any help with this.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de (Stefan Hartmann)
Subject: Re: PAS-16...
Organization: Puplic-Access-Xenix-System
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:15:46 GMT

In <65717@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt3017a@prism.gatech.EDU (Guy Elden Jr.) writes:


>   Does anyone know if it is possible to use, throught the midi connector,
>a keyboard to playback sampled sounds using the PAS-16? It would seem that it
>could be done, if you knew what address to look for in the midi. That way, when
>you detect the keyboard sending a signal, it would trigger the sample.

>   Also, is there any kind of program for PC's that can compose .mod files? I'd
>love to be able to write mods on my computer, since the demos ones that came
>with the card sound pretty damn good. From what I can tell, its a bunch of
>samples being played back at different pitches, using left/right stereo? Am I
>right, or completely off the mark here?

>   Thanks for any replies...


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Hi,
what kind of Modplayer comes with the PAS 16 ?

Does it play Mods in 16 bit 44 Khz stereo ?

How does it sound ?

Is it a DOS Modplayer or already a win3.1 Modplayer ?

Has somebody heard of WINMOD10.ARJ or *.ZIP the new win3.1 modplayer ?

Best regards Stefan Hartmann.
email to: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: gregh@alw.nih.gov (Gregory Humphreys)
Subject: Re: MCA soundcard options ?
Organization: National Inst. of Health, DCRT, CSL
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:08:40 GMT

In article <92225.184727IO20081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO20081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (robert eric beckwith) writes:
|> What is available for Soundcards for Micro Channel Systems?
|> Any opinions or reviews?
|> Anything upcoming?
|> thanks, I would like to get one soon............robert

The only one I know of is the SoundBlaster Microchannel.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: jjg@pt.com (John Grana)
Subject: Re: ATI Stereo FX card
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:43:39 GMT

In article <36696@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> miliu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (zaphod beeblebrox) writes:
>
>I've read that the ATI Stereo F/X is SB Pro compatible.  Anyone have
>more info. on that?  On 8/7, I was at Datel and they have it with

As far as SB Pro compatible - not that I know of. It is SB and Ad Lib
(100%) and does NOT use TSRs to be compatible.

>the spekers (also the sticker on it said something about extra
>"MIDI" stuff included) for $99 as an unadvertised special limited to
>stock on hand.  They had about a dozen on their shelves.  Also, in

The MIDI stuff could be the MIDI box and Sequencer Plus Jr. This is
usually ~$70 extra. It looks like a MIDI in/out (and a 3rd MIDI conn.)
and includes a complete MIDI sequencer s.w. package for recording,
editing, etc.
The standard Stereo F/X comes with the Voyetra driver package that allows
playing MIDI files through the board.

>I don't recall reading anything on the Stereo F/X in this group.  Do
>any of you all own it?  What are your opinions of it?  What are its
>features compared to other inexpensive boards?  I don't have a sound
>card yet (shame on me, eh) but I want one BAAAAAAD.  I'll be using
>it for games, recording, sequencing, synthesizing, and perhaps MIDI.
>I've read in this group that a bevy of new cards will be coming out
>soon.  Is there an inexpensive card that will do all that I listed?
>
I own one and am pretty happy with it. Some of its features over
the SB and Ad Lib (as far as I can tell):

	1) Stereo
	2) Samples up to 44kHz (mono) or 22kHz (stereo)
	3) Stereo circuit will add "pseudo" stereo to existing mono
	   SB and Ad Lib applications
	4) On-board 8 watt stereo amplifier. (yes it can be very loud!)
	5) 32 auto. anti-aliasing filters.

>			Zaphod 

John Grana
jjg@pt.com



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From:  shura@speech.lang.lgu.spb.su (Alexander L. Gorlovsky)
Subject: Re: Speech recognition
Reply-To: shura@speech.lang.lgu.spb.su
Organization: University of St-Petersburg, Speech Recognition Lab.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:54:16 GMT
Keywords: speech recognize


We are happy to inform you that we are the group trying to recognize
speech for years and have some experience and results  in this field.
At the moment we have:

SPEAKER DEPENDENT RECOGNIZOR

Features:  * Active vocabulary up to 500 isolated words/phrases
     	   * Emulation of up to 100 keystrokes per spoken word
     	   * Response time < 0.7 sec for 12 Mhz IBM AT286
     	   * Recognition accuracy better than 97%
     	   * Memory requirements:
       	     28 Kb of  conventional RAM plus  about 600 bytes  per word
	     of active vocabulary
     	   * DOS environment
     	   * One pass training procedure and verification session

SPEAKER INDEPENDENT RECOGNIZOR

Features:  * Active vocabulary up to 100 isolated words/phrases
     	   * Emulation of up to 100 keystrokes per spoken word
     	   * Response time < 0.7 sec for 12 Mhz IBM AT286.
     	   * Recognition accuracy better than 97%
     	   * Memory requirements:
       	     28 Kb of conventional RAM plus about 3000 bytes
       	     per word of active vocabulary.
     	   * DOS environment
     	   * Preliminary expert preparation of the vocabulary

We've developed original PC ADC/DAC board for this purposes
which is already for sale,
but our software runs also with COVOX, ADLIB, SOUNDBLASTER cards.
Just now we are looking for a possibility to have contracts
for developing this kind of products. If anybody knows something
please make us know.

Thanks. Buy!

Alex.
From: sl8nl@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: ModPlay Assembly Module for SB-Pro
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:50:08 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

>> Have you tried looking at the WOWII module player by Jan Ole Suhr?
> 
> Of course I have. And I like it a lot. But I *still* would like the info for
> ModPlay.

I was told by Creative Labs that the SoundBlaster Pro will not do stereo unless
DMA is used.  And, Modplay Pro is a byte-driven player, not DMA driven like
mine and Jan Ole Suhr's.

Josh

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From: cpirazzi@bonk.esd.sgi.com (Chris Pirazzi)
Subject: Anyone used PAS-16 SCSI for disk?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:29:23 GMT

referring to this section of Charles Thompson's great FAQ on the PAS-16:

>--Can I use the PAS-16 to control other SCSI devices?
>Yes.  Trantor Systems [authors of TSLCDR.SYS]
>can be reached at 510-770-1400 for a $59.00 
>driver set which supports all SCSI hard drives, removable hard drives 
>and magneto-optical drives.  Currently there is no driver support for 
>tape drives or scanners.

does anyone have experience with using this package ?

sounds too good to be true ...

I'm considering trying to use it to run a Seagate ST1480N drive (405 MB)
on my pc.

	- Chris Pirazzi


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From: cab3@engr.uark.edu (Chad A. Bersche,ENGR 320,7968,5214094)
Subject: Re: Gravis Drivers for Os/2
Organization: University of Arkansas
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:41:19 GMT

shane@cs.UAlberta.CA (Ruman Shane James) writes:

>Hello,
>	Does anyone know if Gravis is planning to create drivers for the ultrasound under OS/2, 
>I've heard that Mediavision is writing them for the Pro Audio Spectrum 16.  This is definitely a
>big factor in my decision as to which to get.
>					     Thanks for any enlightening,

I'm not too sure what to think of Gravis right now.  I called Wednesday (8/12)
and talked to one guy that said the card would be released August 17th, and
when I asked about OS/2 drivers, he said that "Yes, there will be OS/2 drivers
but not immediately.  It could be the end of September before they are ready."

Great says I.  I've liked the features on the Gravis and was torn between
the PAS-16 and the Gravis.  Now I figure I can get the card I want and 
not be limited to a certain OS just because the company doesn't feel like
putting the time and effort into a port.

However, skeptical me, I call back today (8/13) and talk to yet another person
about the card.  She says the ship date will be "the end of next week or
the week after".  Do these guys even have the schematic ready yet????  I've
been following this since May and I figure I'll go ahead and fill the rest
of the slots on my PC with useful stuff, since this vapor-card should fit 
in with no problem later.  I go on to question her about the possibility of
OS/2 drivers.  She's vaguely aware of something called OS/2, but sticks me
on hold to check to see if it's a feasible thing to request of a company.
She comes back on later (it's their dime, I'll hold thanks) and says that
they currently don't have any plans on making OS/2 drivers.  *sigh*  

I wish, if the salesmen are unsure of the card/features/drivers, the company
would give them all a little handout that way at least I'm misled consistently
and don't have to second guess.  Now I guess I'll have to go with another
phone call and make it the best 2 out of 3.  (with my luck this guy won't 
know what a Ultrasound is and I'll have to shoot for 3 of 5).

I plan on making one more call to Gravis and register that I WANT OS/2
drivers, and want them NOW, please.  Otherwise, PAS-16 will be living in
my machine shortly, and then of course, PAS will be out of stock wherever
I try to buy one at.

With all this consistency in the sound card market, I'm almost willing to
just put up with the PC speaker to avoid the confusion.  *beep beep*

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner)
Subject: Re: Gravis Drivers for Os/2
Organization: San Jose State University - Math/CS Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:11:02 GMT

hutton@ssd.kodak.com (Mike Hutton) writes:

>Does anyone know if Gravis is working on support for Windows NT?

I think that any manufacturer has to be looking at NT support, from two
very different and conflicting angles.  First, it may be quite popular
and they want market share.  On the other hand, Microsoft has just pulled
the rug out from under them with the announcement of their own card and
attempts at OEM licensing of that card.  This will put sound board
folks in the same quandry that Windows word-processor vendors are in -
you are competing against MS in a field where MS has stacked the deck, and
keep keep it stacked in their favor.  

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From: gfr@dulcimer.mitre.org (Glenn Roberts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Soundblaster and 486's
Keywords: soundblaster
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:23:04 GMT
Reply-To: gfr@dulcimer.mitre.org (Glenn Roberts)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va

In article <mikeb.714251524@pandora>, mikeb@pandora.dell.com (Michael Brundridge) writes:
|> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
|> 
|> >>  I just bought a Soundblaster Pro.  It works about 80% of the time.
|> >>  When it crashes, it CRASHES!  I have a 486 25/50mhz DX2 machine.
|> >>  Is it true that Soundblasters just don't function well on a 486, let
|> >>  alone a fast 486?  I've tried calling SB tech support....yeah right!
|> >>  That failing, I thought maybe someone here could advise.  Thanks!
|> >>-- 
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|> >>                Robert Ansley   ransley@parnasus.dell.com
|> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> >	I have a 33/486 and it works just fine.  Its never crashed at all.
|> 
|> >							G.Greene
|> I have been told there is a second version of the card out that the
|> duty cycle of the clock was changed on.  And that this might fix
|> the problem. This is only a rumor, I am trying to find out for sure
|> from the CL engineers.  As soon as I know I will post to c.s.i.p.s
|> 

this sounds right.  I had reported a problem with my SBPro (on a 386/33
machine) and Creative Labs called me back to tell me to ship them the
board so they could make some "patches" to the clock circuit.  (By that
time I had already retuned the board and bought a PAS16 though!).


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From: jczhelp@tamuts.tamu.edu (John Zurawski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: ModPlay Assembly Module for SB-Pro
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:35:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Aug19.213554.29246
Organization: ~/lib/organization

In article <1992Aug19.051812.5654@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> gerace@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Jerry Gerace) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.222326.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> heath_m@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>>In article <1992Aug17.230414.58222@cc.usu.edu>, sl8nl@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>>>   
>>>> Does anyone have the assembly information needed for the SB-Pro in
>>>> ModPlay 2.19B? I would really like to use ModPlay in stereo, as it is the  
>>>> most accurate player I have.     
>>>> Hope someone can help,
>>> 
>>> Have you tried looking at the WOWII module player by Jan Ole Suhr?
>>
>>Of course I have. And I like it a lot. But I *still* would like the info for
>>ModPlay.
>>
>Well, if you have a Pro, why not use ProMod?  I find it to be a little
>more accurate than ModPlay or Wow (Wow is a little slow on my 386-16 anyways).
>
>It's fast, lets you adjust the master,voc,line, and mike inputs (play a 
>mod and sing along...its karaoke!!!  ugh)

I agree with you that both ProMod and WOW II are better than ModPlay for
sound quality and graphics.  But, I still use ModPlay over these two
because of it's mod selection ability.  I have nothing against using the
command line, but MP makes it much easier to find a particular MOD or
play several.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.os.os2.apps
From: hutton@ssd.kodak.com (Mike Hutton)
Subject: Re: Gravis Drivers for Os/2
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:44:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.184259.22339@news.columbia.edu> mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:
>In article <ddebry.713555522@itchy> David DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>  writes:
>>In <1992Aug11.171759.21266@cs.UAlberta.CA> shane@cs.UAlberta.CA (Ruman Shane James) writes:
>>> Does anyone know if Gravis is planning to create drivers for the
>>> ultrasound under OS/2, I've heard that Mediavision is writing them for
>>> the Pro Audio Spectrum 16.  This is definitely a big factor in my
>>> decision as to which to get.
>>
>>	As of now, there is no work being done at Gravis for the
>>UltraSound and OS/2.  They're waiting to see how big the demand is.
>>If you want your voice heard, give them a call, or send a letter.
>>
>>	Not a problem.  :)
>
>Good.  Now I don't have to wait any longer; I will go out and get a PAS 16.
>Gravis will eventually realize that they made a big mistake by not supporting
>OS/2 immediately.  This would have been a great opportunity for them to break
>into ground not covered by the SoundBlaster.  It would have *made* the card
>succeed!  I don't have Gravis's phone number, so maybe someone who does can
>pass along this info to them.  Tell them that they are going to lose all the
>markets if they don't get their act together.  I, for one, am tired of waiting
>for fickle companies who ship their products months late, and then can't even
>decide whether they will support them with drivers.
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Does anyone know if Gravis is working on support for Windows NT?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: holloway@clio (Bryan Holloway)
Subject: Whoops
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:32:56 GMT

Nevermind...thanks for the FAQ!

					- bryan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Sound Blaster 16
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:14:07 GMT


Creative Labs will be releasing a new sound card the SB 16 it offers 16 bit sound
(true 16 bit, unlike the Pro Spec 16 that have 4 channels of static) and 44.1 cd
reconding, it also offers a 4 layer design, and larger resister pack for bus
noise handling..a GREAT CARD, they are still going to produce the sb and sb pro,
this one just is the next step for musicians and serious business plugs...

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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: Microsoft's Soundcard
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:43:54 GMT

More info?  Not outside what is said in PC Week, which I would take with a
large grain of sodium chloride.  They say it's being called Foghorn
(codename?), that it will play/record 16-bit sound, and is built to work in
Windows.  Didn't sound too different from what was out there already, except
for something about "speech recognition", which I had to wonder about.

The interesting two things about the article were 1) that DOS programs would
have to be compiled to run specifically with it (i.e., it isn't compatible
with SoundBlaster or Adlib), but that any Windows program compiled with the
Windows 3.1 sound calls would run with its Windows drivers (just like the
ProAudio cards); and 2) MediaVision welcomed Microsoft's entry into the
field, hoping it would draw more people into getting such cards.

Regarding the latter observation, I can only suppose that MediaVision
supposes that they will grab the "high end" of the sound card market, and
hope that Microsoft eats more into SoundBlaster's share of the market.  But,
that's the guesses of an uneducated grunt; stay tuned.

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From: stangel@sparc3.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Stangel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Playing WAVs on Win 3.1 quickly?
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:28:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: sunb10.1992Aug19.142829.24202
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

In <5229@krafla.rhi.hi.is> karlth@rhi.hi.is (Karl Thoroddsen) writes:

>here is a program that should do the trick:

>#include <windows.h>
>int PASCAL WinMain(	HANDLE hInstance, HANDLE hPrevInstance, 
>			LPSTR lpszCmdParam, int nCmdShow)
>{
>sndPlaySound(lpszCmdParam,NULL);
>return 0;
>}

>Compile this with a Windows 3.1 compiler (MSC++ 7.0 or Borland C++ 3.1) and
>you can insert your favourite sounds as icons into the program manager.

I don't have a compiler handy (or at all, to be honest).  Could some kind
sould uuencode the program (PLAY.EXE) and post it here?  Thanks much!

Mike Stangel
Poor College Kid w/o MSC++ 7.0
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