From: simon@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Simon Clippingdale)
Subject: Re: Demonic Christian Beliefs
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:52:33 GMT

In article <parsons.717613819@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> parsons@cis.ksu.edu (Scott S Parish ) writes:
>David.Rice@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
>>
>> Exactly my point---it is this irrational WRONG belief that
>> causes so much pain and mental bondage.
>> [...] 
>> You will find that people "demonically posessed" are very
>> sick mentally, or sick emotionally, of very much in need
>> of attention to keep the loneliness at bay.

> You need to get into contact with some missionaries who have
> any time in the field, then you will see that you are the one 
> who has a wrong belief about demonic possession.

Yeah, we need an unbiased and disinterested expert authority to ask. So
let's go find a f***ing MISSIONARY, for Chrissakes, in the field, that
is to say one whose very task it is to spread the fearful and fatuous
drivel of which you speak. You're disinterested of course, missionaries
in the field are disinterested and f*** me if a 200 pound pink pig didn't
just fly right out of George Bush's asshole.

> However, knowing the atheist mindset you'd find some way to write their
> experience off.

You betcha. Knowing the Christian mindset, however, you would be utterly
objective and harbour no inclination to believe obvious bullshit without
supporting evidence.

> But on the subject...Most people are severely 
> crippled in their knowledge of the subject of possession, and I 
> don't profess to be an expert.  There is a difference between 
> possession and oppression by demons.  The majority of people who
> are under demonic attack are oppressed not possessed.

Is the number of people who are, or have been, under demonic attack
equal to the number of people who claim to be, or to have been, under
demonic attack? If the two numbers differ, give reasons for your answer
showing all relevant data and calculations [10 marks].

Explain why the statement
    "My neighbour with a history of psychotic disorders, who claims to
     be under attack by axe-wielding invisible pigmies, is not in fact
     under attack by axe-wielding invisible pigmies and is therefore
     under attack by club-wielding invisible pigmies"
is logically flawed [20 marks].

> There are different levels of oppression ranging from doubt to depression 
> to fear and anything else you can probably think of.

Explain why the statement
    "Club-wielding invisible pigmies can be responsible for anything anybody
     can think of"
is bollocks [20 marks].

> NO, not all or even most cases of emotional problems or mental illnesses
> are due to demons. But demonic attacks can and due happen.

Spell "wibble gibber burble gurgle" [50 marks].

>Scott Parish                |  The Truth is still the Truth      |  John 14:6
>parsons@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu  |  even if you choose to ignore it.  |

Spell "condescending and vacuous tautology" [0 marks].

Good luck and cheers

Simon
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