From: grossg@patriot.rtp.dg.com (Gross)
Subject: Re: Get a life
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 17:34:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <adams.711829078@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>Steve.Gross@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Steve Gross) writes:
>
>>As for the others who disagreed with my opinion, thank you for an
>>alternate view.  I am indeed a sinner, as are all others.  I just happen
>>to think that if God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit collaborated on a book
>>that is the authoritative word of God, and that book says that
>>homosexuality is UNNATURAL, that it is unnatural.
>
>Please tell me exactly where it says that God wrote the Bible.

All scripture is inspired (God-breathed) of God.... 2 Tim. 3:16-17

>Explain for example, why we see in the prologue of the Gospel of Luke, 
>that he investigated the events and interviewed people, and consulted other 
>sources.  Why would he need to do this if God were dictating the book?

God selects and uses the man -- He even causes Him to investigate
events and interview people.  Seems we humans have a failing -- we
won't take God's word for anything. ;-)  Independent sources saying
the same thing happened provides us evidence.  And even withg that
people don't believe.

>>For all you scholars who have read "between the lines" and have theorized a
>>different interpretation, my sincere apologies.  I read the book as it is
>>written, no more no less.
>
>Me too.  Did you miss the parts about loving your enemy as your friend?  Or
>the part about hating the sin yet loving the sinner?  Or the fact that
>Jesus hung around with those people who, at the time, were the scum of the
>earth?  'Tax collectors and sinners' were shunned...and fishermen weren't
>exactly on everybodies list of great people...

Near as I can tell, Steve G. did not miss anything.  You have missed the
parts that speak of a God who is righteous and demands that of His
creation.  He has also told us that the wages of sin is death, and
that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

You can either chose to beleive God or your own view of right and
wrong.  To say that something is a sin based on what God calls wrong
or sin is not making a judgement -- it is merely passing along a
divine judgement of God's.  The Prophets of old did it, Jesus and the
Apostles did it -- all of them were scorned and derided.  We know that
the same thing will happen today when we side with what is written
versus "liberal interpretations."

Being a conservative evangelical means accepting the Bible as the
final Word of God to us until Christ comes again in power and glory.
We agree to the "Fundamentals" of the Faith because they so often
match what we believe.  We hold our leaders to a high standard so that
they will hold the laity to a high standard.  We, thusly, are obedient
to the what is written -- provoke one another to love and good works.

Jesus died for those who believe not for every human.  To say
otherwise ignores that salvation, through Jesus Christ, God's ultimate
expression of love, belongs only to those who believe in Jesus Christ
as Lord and Saviour.  Such a belief will cause an incredible change in
a person's life.  They may not be perfect, but now they will admit
that and repent.

>You sound far too much like the Pharisees that Jesus condemned...

And you sounbd like one who knows "right from wrong" as did Adam and
Eve after eating the forbidden fruit.

Gene