From: phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ba.politics
Subject: Re: Women as inventors
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:10:02 GMT
Organization: Generally in favor of, but mostly random.

In article <1992Oct12.031111.131@nntp.uoregon.edu> eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:
    >I really can't see devoting a lot of energy to rebutting the
    >paranoid white males on the net who are so desperate to avoid
    >real competition with females and non-white males that they
    >must cite the results of their discriminatory past and insist
    >that it somehow proves their superiority (read: right to
    >exclude others) even though all but white males were excluded
    >from both formal education and the resources to achieve on
    >their own.

Tell me something -- just WHAT is the process that somehow excludes
all these females from high school math and science classes?

    >I doubt that any one of these insecure men would ever bother
    >to read a biography of someone like Marie Curie (whose sister
    >became a physician at a time when European women were
    >routinely excluded from higher education). If they did, they
    >would not recognize the obsticles that were placed in her
    >path or respect them. That is why this type of white male is
    >not respected by others. Some day they may realize they are
    >creating this experience, but don't hold your breath for it.
    >They talk the talk of fair competition, but they don't walk
    >the walk: they can't face the effects of their past
    >discrimination on their successes any more than they can face
    >fair competetion in their present.

Damn right -- it's ALL the fault of us white males isn't it? Your lack
of achievement is not your fault -- no way, eh Jose?

I just finished Sandra Kurtzigs book -- on how she built a multi-
hundred million dollar company from scratch, while raising a family.
She doesn't think that any lack of sucess was from any male conspiracy.
Any lack of success she had she'd blamed on the right source -- herself.

Must be a scary thought for you, eh? No one to blame except yourself.

    >Most of you guys who are so hot on this couldn't last a
    >moment with a modern woman. I invite you to step on my turf,
    >a courtroom, sometime. I will gladly hand you back your
    >clock--fully cleaned.

Yeah yeah yeah -- your dick is bigger than mine ... oops, wrong gender.
Sorry to have stepped on your testosterone-lack-insecurity.

But you are really sick -- to consider an as as achievement a job
which involves an utterly corrupt coercive mechanism -- the current
U.S. legal system.

Tell me -- is your social life grossly deficient? With an attitude like
that, I would expect that it is rather hard for you to find a date -- of
either sex.

Look at how you relate -- tell us "we guys" are so weak, and you can prove
it -- step into Daddy's living room so your Daddy can beat us up.

(Daddy == coercive courtroom with armed bailiffs and judges, almost all
of which are male).

Tell you what -- you want to be macho, why not offer one-on-one
hand to hand combat?

    >I know it's rough to have to compete with the world on an
    >equal basis, but it's only going to get worse for you guys.
    >You are dinosaurs. And you obviously know it. Tough luck,
    >guys. The past is only important if you live in it, and the
    >more you live in it, the more irrelevent you become.


Yeah, I just LOVE those jobs like firemen -- where they relax the
physical competency rules for women. juts what I need when caught
in a fire in a high rise -- some 5'1" women who passed the test
when the deadman carry weight was reduced from 200 pounds to 75.

Since I'm 6'2" and weigh 220, I guess I'll be just another "newly dead
white male in the cause of "equality" for women" ...

Golly - maybe I'd better be paranoid too ... maybe if I get REAL
good at it, I can blame any of my faults on the conspiracy of women.


You know, women live longer than men -- and most of the nurses in
hospitals (and they do ALL the real work anyway) are female, why,
it's a CONSPIRACY!!!



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If all the contributions of Dead White Males, a.k.a. Dead White Loathsome
Oppressors, were to vanish, you'd have the Politically Correct(tm) Loathsome
Oppressors using dull rocks to hunt and the Politically Correct Women of
Vision and Strength(tm) using leaves for tampons.

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