From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Passing out Condoms (Was Re: Better Off Than Four Years Ago NOT)
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:13:49 GMT

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In article <1992Aug31.220420.11509@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
]In article <1992Aug28.201932.4100@den.mmc.com> sims@possum.den.mmc.com (John Sims) writes:
]>>Who is tearing families apart?
]>Hmm. Well, let's see, where to start?  An example, pointed out recently
]>could be Hillary Clinton, likening marriage to slavery, and stating that
]>children should have the right to divorce their parents.
]
]	Pure quotation out of context.
If you see the quotation in context, you will realize that she does indeed
liken marriage to slavery.
]
]	About kids suing their parents, I think she was talking about
]cases in which parents are seriously abusive.

Not true. What she wanted to do was eliminate the legal status of "minor" -
giving children the presumption of competency in the courts. This would
indeed allow any child to sue his parents under any conditions.
]Or how about a
]>judicial system which says that parents have absolutely no right to be
]>informed when their daughter is getting an abortion?
]
]	The parents can ask :-)
Hah hah hah.
]
]Or how about the
]>folks who tell my wife that she isn't fulfilled as a woman because she
]>has chosen to stay at home to raise our children?
]
]	Like who?

Hillary, with her "stay home and bake cookies" statement, among others.
]
]	This is from someone who would gladly tell a woman with a
]career that she isn't truly fulfilled as a woman because she isn't a
]full-time housewife.

Who'se that?
]
]Along that line, how
]>about the folks who claim that raising the children is better left to
]>strangers in a government sponsored day-care center, rather than trying
]>to enable women to stay at home?
]
]	Day-care centers can be made much more friendly than that :-)

Look at the research. Children under 3 who do not spend a lot of time
with their mothers have a lot more problems in later life (this research,
of course, adjusted for economic and other factors).

]
]Or how about good ole' Pat 
]>Schroeder, who loves to proclaim family values while
]>simultaneously saying that the traditional family is irrelevant?  
]
]	Where did she say that?
]
]	Pat Schroeder was talking about families in general, not about
]the well-known stereotype of the "traditional family". There are more
]kinds of family in Heaven and Earth than are dreamed of in your
]philosophy, buster :-) (to paraphrase Shakespeare)

Yes, and those that work the best look just like the well-known stereotype
of the "traditional family." Families without fathers (for whatever reason)
or families without mothers (for whatever reason) or families with
step-parents are simply not as successful in raising happy and successful
children. This isn't some sort of half-baked morality argument... it
is a pragmatic one.

The intentional ignorance of this by the feminists is what the "family
values" people are attacking. Feminists have an ideology that says that
women should be no different from men in all societal roles, and to
maintain that ideology they sometimes have to ignore social and
biological realities.
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