From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Jacob's Ladder drug
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:06:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.lamontg.703480019
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'

>"debilitating for a day or more"  This stuff sounds great! ;-)

I poked around in the archives and found the following garbage...
 
From: brad@arkham.wimsey.bc.ca (Brad Murray)
Date: 1 Jul 91 20:54:12 GMT
>db64+@andrew.cmu.edu (David William Blob) writes:
>
>> having watched "Jacob's Ladder" yesterday, i was wondering is there such
>> a drug a BZ?
>> (as implied by the comment at the end)
>> 
>> was it as bad as the movie portrayed?
>> was it used in vietnam?
>> what's it's real name?
>
>My trusty but old Survey of Chemical Warfare says yes, BZ exists.  The 
>known properties of BZ as of the publishing of this book (1963) are as 
>follows:
>
>It is an anticholinergic psychomimetic agent  (some properties similar 
>to the nerve gases).  Effects (according to Army Technical Manual 
>TM3-215): "Interferes with ordinary activity; dry, flushed skin; 
>tachycardia; urinary retention; constipation; slowing of physical and 
>mental activity; headache; giddiness; disorientation; hallucinations; 
>drowsiness, maniacal behaviour (sometimes); and increase in body 
>temperature." Until 1963, BZ was the only standardized incapacitant of 
>the US forces.
>
>The article goes on to note that some have suggested that it is in fact 
>STP, but that this is very unlikely as STP has 1/50 the activity of LSD 
>and LSD was not considered to be a generally useful incapacitant (due to 
>unpredictability of victim behaviour and long onset time of effects).  
>Again, this data is all nearly 30 years old, so new info is appreiated 
>(as well as pointers to an updated version of the same book!)
>
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> Brad Murray          "You have the right to freeeee speech as long as you're
> brad@arkham.uucp      not dumb enough to actually try it."       (The Clash)
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From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Date: 2 Jul 91 15:18:02 GMT
>brad@arkham.wimsey.bc.ca (Brad Murray) writes:
>
>>My trusty but old Survey of Chemical Warfare says yes, BZ exists.  The 
>>known properties of BZ as of the publishing of this book (1963) are as 
>>follows:
>
>>It is an anticholinergic psychomimetic agent  (some properties similar 
>>to the nerve gases). 
>
>In fact, the action of BZ is directly antagonistic to that of nerve agents.
>BZ is 3-quinuclidinyl benzylate. 
>
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>Eric E. Snyder                            
>Department of MCD Biology              ...making feet for childrens' shoes.
>University of Colorado, Boulder   
>Boulder, Colorado 80309-0347
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