HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: PBS Has New Sponsor for "Great Performances"
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:14:19 GMT

rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams) writes:

> Stuart Elliott, the openly-gay Advertising Columnist
> for The New York Times, reports (7/22/92) that
> Duracell Inc., the battery manufacturer, will replace
> Texaco as a corporate underwriter of PBS's "Great
> Performances" series.  Duracell will provide $1.5
> million for the 1992-93 season, compared with the
> $1 million Texaco spent in 1991-92.

Hooray for Duracell! (quick, now whats there lesbigay stance?)
did you happen to note a corparate adress so we can send a 'thank you' note/s?
> 
> Duracell will not have any role in determining the
> content of programming on "Great Performances."
        even Better.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Re: Wells Fargo/Bank Of America dissapointment
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:54:35 GMT

By the way, I called Levi-Strauss yesterday. I mentioned the Wells Fargo
/BA problems with bigots. The spokesperson said that Levi-Strauss does
not plan to change its policy of withdrawing funding from the Boy Scouts.

Bill
From: dfpedro@nv2.uswnvg.com (Donn F. Pedro)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: the b-word
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:44:28 GMT
Reply-To: dfpedro@uswnvg.com.UUCP (Donn F. Pedro)
Organization: I don't speak for them anyway.

In article <1992Jul17.001003.11266@athena.mit.edu> max@athena.mit.edu (Max Meredith Vasilatos) writes:
:merrill@park.bu.edu (John Merrill) writes:
:
:>Look: I'm here, I'm queer, and I'm, by god, a breeder.  I'm also
:>insulted, personally, by the word.  
:
:Maybe you should be insulted.  Maybe it's a perfectly
:reasonable insult.  Want to explain why it's ok to
:grow more people?  

I know there are plenty of reasons not to but,

Because she really wanted to be a mother.

Because Jessica and Sarah may, one day, make a difference
in the quality of someone's life, not to mention ours.

Because there is potential for change in each new generation
and maybe I can guide them towards that choice of change.

Because they're both pretty good people in thier own right.

Before children I thought like you, maybe they have some diabolical
effect on one's mind, but I wouldn't throw 'em back.

And I'm not having any more.

:Max
:max@athena.mit.edu




     Donn Pedro ....................................dfpedro@uswnvg.com

		     There are no ordinary moments.
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Re: Engineer bashing > Ayoye!
Date: 24 Jul 92 04:21:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Jul24.042144.3210
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <32590302@hpmwfab2.sr.hp.com> mdrayton@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Mike Drayton) writes:
>I know very few engineers here who can communicate well in writing.
>I'm not sure if more requirements in the humanities would remedy this,
>though; I think it starts earlier than college.

All you need is a mandatory expository writing requirement and a
ruthless but patient instructor who uses red ink liberally.  When
I entered college, I couldn't place two lines of prose together
and be understood: everything I wrote sounded like bad Faulkner.
Well, this woman was not to be bamboozled by incoherent scratchings
no manner how earnest they were.  She gave me exercises and assignments
and private attention until I got it right, which I eventually did.

This particular class was otherwise notable because Bill Gates was one
of the 10 or so other freshmen in the class, in one of his rare Harvard
classroom appearances before he left the college.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: An Englishman Abroad -- please help
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:31:59 GMT
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ

In article <mjg.711710809@nessi> mjg@eng.cam.ac.uk (Michael Gray) writes:
>
>He ... assures me that he is house trained 

Ok, just one question, I hold up a bone, will he bark and hump my
leg?

Ry Schwark
ry@usl.com
ps.  I'm sure that some of the NYC boyz and girls will respond, and we
just must do dinner!
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From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.arts.tv,talk.politics.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk,alt.individualism,rec.arts.tv.soaps,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Gayspace
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:45:58 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <l76kmjINN2gt@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>In article <2A733D51.5586@noiro.acs.uci.edu> 
>cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) blathers about
>something that I decided to delete.
>
>Drop dead, asshole.
>
>Arne

And you.

Shame I'm not Danny Karnes (of alt.flame infamy) or I would let rip.

Save this shit for groups relevant, not tv newsgroups.

Neil
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas)
Subject: muslim gays
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:21:41 GMT

someone created a group called something like: alt.wanted.muslim.gay
Seems that that created a big debate over there.
Just to let you know.

AAP
From: chloupek@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ameriflora and the Living Quilt
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:24:23 EDT

In article <13145.2a75dfa0@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, msp@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu (Michael S. Pettersen) writes:
> Since a few people have asked about the remark I made about Ameriflora, and 
> it actually has motss content, I thought I'd make a post about it.
> 
> Ameriflora is a flower show which decided to become a world exposition in 
> honor of the Columbus quincentennial.  It has been heavily promoted here, 
> and I suspect that there was some attempt to promote it nationally, since 
> they've been running special shuttle buses between Ameriflora and
> the airport.  Like Columbus's last attempt to mount an exhibit of national 
> significance, Son of Heaven, Ameriflora seems likely to result in a 
> large financial loss for city and state.  (They're calling it "Grandson 
> of Heaven.")
> 
> The advertisements here are quite misleading, in my opinion, and the 
> tickets are overpriced.  There weren't all that many flowers, considering 
> that the admission price is $20 and that Columbus has a park called the 
> Park of Roses, which is free, and has over 10,000 bushes, that we saw in 
> the morning.
> 
> I liked the Japanese garden, and the Korean garden, and the Australian 
> landscape, and the Malaysian jungle exhibit; but there wasn't much else 
> that grabbed my attention.  Monaco had a large fake house for its exhibit, 
> and Italy had a bunch of pyramids with paintings of Italian scenery on the 
> sides.  I liked the Franklin Park conservatory, which had 5 climate-
> controlled rooms that you went through, from desert to tropical island, 
> but the conservatory was there before Ameriflora, and will be 
> after, and cost a lot less.
> 
> The exhibit I most wanted to see was the Living Quilt, a flower bed in the 
> form of a patchwork.  It was, of course, extremely moving.  If the 
> publicity is good enough, then you may have seen pictures of the central 
> sculpture, which depicts two hands reaching up out of the ground towards 
> the heavens.  It is a beautiful sculpture.  On the other hand, the floral 
> part of the Living Quilt was depressingly small--I heard it explained 
> that the plots were overpriced and insufficiently promoted.  I was sad 
> that there wasn't more effort given to the memorial.
> 
Gee, I wonder why Columbus' favorite newspaper, The Dispatch hasn't publicized
it more?  :-)

I went to Ameriflora also and it is nice, but not worth 20$.  The Conservatory
is the nicest thing there, and it will remain after the show closes.  If you
find yourself in Columbus with nothing to do, it is cheaper to go to the
Columbus Zoo and see the Giant Panda exhibit.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Frank R. Chloupek 
CHLOUPEK@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu 
Department of Physics -- *The* Ohio State University
(Not just a Ohio State University) 

"Get off the cross, girl!  Somebody needs the wood."   
Dolly Parton in "Straight Talk"
From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Hanky Code
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:23:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Jul31.142313.15910
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Jul30.164841.4409@spdcc.com> joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.103409.24788@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>
>>Only 69-joke I know: 
>>Q. What's the square root of 69?  
>>A. Ate something.
>
>Q. What's the square root of 69i?
>A. i 8 something.

I knew it didn't look right:

-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Breeders and kikes
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:02:39 GMT

In article <thaaang.711626894@odin> thaaang@odin.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

>I was thinking about the situation that Tim Pierce used as a parallel
>to the selective use of the word 'breeder', that of his grandfather's
>use of the word 'kike', 'not for the good Jews, mind you, but for the
>bad ones'. I have a problem with that being presented as a parallel;
>there *aren't* good Jews and bad Jews, but I am convinced that there
>*are* good hets and bad ones.

Really?  There's never been an unethical or callous Jew?

Or is it that you don't see these qualities as intrinsically linked to
their religion?

I make the "good het" "bad het" division myself all the time, and have
to keep reminding myself that it isn't hetero*sexuality* that I hate,
but rather hetero*sexism*.  I have posted here before about my friend
Jason, who is straight yet sometimes more astute at pointing out and
pinning down homophobia than I am.  Some of my heterosexual professors
have identified my own internalized homophobia for me.  With
heterosexual people like this in the world, I CANNOT permit myself to
think that there is such a thing as a "good het" and a "bad het," for
that distinction judges the value of heterosexuality in and of itself.

A few weeks ago on the GayNet list we hashed out the word
"monosexual."  I continued to defend it and its use for a while, until
I realized that what I was attacking so vitriolically was not
"monosexuality," but monosexism, and it was ridiculous of me to
continue lumping in the brilliant and wonderful queers I have known
with the straight and narrow ones.

>John, who's been thinking about this stuff a lot lately. It's odd how
>I can hate straights so much when so many of my friends are straight...

It's easy.  It's a trap.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You mean there are TWO of you, Pierce?
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  God help us all."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Major Charles Emerson Winchester III
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Re: Hellacious Quote-file fodder
Organization: Open Software Foundation Research Institute, Grenoble
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:05:11 GMT

"hell-file"?

,
Eamonn
From: brad@Apple.COM (Brad Zaller)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: P-FLAG national offices
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:58:49 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton) writes:


>   Does anyone have or know the address/phone of the national
>   offices of P-FLAG?

>   Thanks.

>    ld

You can reach the main P-FLAG office at:

   National Federation of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays
   P.O. Box 27605
   Washington, DC  20038-7605

   (800) 4-FAMILY

You can locate the chapter nearest you by calling the above number.  They
have implemented an automated system whereby you simply enter your
three-digit area code and an automated voice will tell you how to
contact your local P-FLAG chapter.  Pretty nifty stuff...

bz

-- 
Brad "fuzzy" Zaller     ---      I love my country.
apple computer, inc.      ---    I fear my government.
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: name change
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:30:22 GMT
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

Peter Lee Kim writes (addressing those in "net land"):
>does anyone know the process for getting you name legally changed?

Varies by locality, of course.  Even among the states in the US, and
I'm not even going to guess at the procedures in other countries in
"net land".  Since you're in apparently in Berkeley, California, USA,
I'd go with Ken "Blackfur" Jones's advice.

Here in Illinois, I went the court route I was advised to take by a
lawyer:  published note of name change (in some legal journal or other),
then went to see a judge to get the formal order.  Armed with that, I
went to Social Security, the University of Chicago, Uncle Sam, the
Department of Motor Vehicles, and so on.  I even filed for an
amended birth certificate with the state of Pennsylvania.  No one gave
me any trouble.

(All I did was drop a hated first name.  I wouldn't have minded being
"<initial> Ellen Seebacher", but government forms always transformed
me into "Firstname E. Seebacher" -- shudder.  Gave me the opportunity
to start using my "other middle" name, though.)

The whole procedure cost me under $200 in 1983.

--
Ellen Keyne Seebacher            elle@midway.uchicago.edu
From: tmohler+@cs.cmu.edu (Tim Mohler)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The B-Word
Summary: saturday night live
Date: 24 Jul 92 07:30:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul24.073017.152901
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <14nhu9INNjvd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> tachyon@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Tane' Tachyon) writes:
>
>In article <1992Jul20.173859.138101@cs.cmu.edu> tmohler+@cs.cmu.edu (Tim Mohler) writes:
>>Jess has a quote in his files, that he used quite appropriately in a
>>posting the other day on how to be friends with a black man, and I
>                                                         ^^^

>Pat Parker was a lesbian poet and activist.  
><> The first thing you do is forget that I'm Black.  Second,
><> you must never forget that I'm Black.
><> -- Pat Parker, "For the white person who wants to be my friend"

Urp. Pat == Male, at least it did in my mind for a bit.

Now if we can tie this into "why the sun is queer" thread....

Tim
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: spaz@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Trebor Strunderthuck)
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:02:03 GMT

Speaking of gays and tv.............

I am a big fan of the Village People(yes, I admit it)...and I am wondering
and searching for a video tape of a program that was on in 1980.....
It was something like "The Village People/Can't Stop The Music Special"
It was a TV special showing the behind the scenes look at their movie...
Does any one remember this? Does anyone have any other info on where I can
get this? Anyone? Anyone?

(flame-resistant shield ON)

Thanks a bunch....

-- 
----------------spaz.csd4.csd.uwm.edu------------------
{ I am one husky bear cub in love!!!!!!!              }
{ YAHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!              }
-------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: archer@utkux1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Subject: Moral Culpability
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:31:59 GMT

In article <l7g6qsINN97o@spim.mips.com> mpolen@gelato.mips.com (Michael Polen) writes:

>|> 
>|>     The appropriate analogy is having a competitor's business
>|> burned down by thugs.  It is clearly criminal if _you_ do it, but if
>|> you are not involved, you will probably benefit and that is not
>|> criminal.  The whole point is that moral culpability requires some
>|> volitional action.
>|> 
>But if the business person, through inaction, allows thugs to get away
>with burning the businesses of his competitors, that is volitional
>action (or volitional inaction).  

Uh uh.  It is not the responsabilty of private individuals to enforce the 
law.
-=-=-
T. Archer  PA142548@utkvm1.utk.edu
University of Tennessee
"Vote Dempublican, it's easier than thinking." -- Unknown
-=-=-
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Subject: Re: book report
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:05:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.160327.28178@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
>In article <nhurv7c@fido.asd.sgi.com> dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>>_Confessions of a Mask_ by Mishima.
..
>>is going on, and you know everything about arriving at the 
>>place of action, but the action remains undescribed.
>Actually, Mishima's style is heavily westernized with florid, rocco
>prose.  He's good, but his style was greatly influenced by the
>west.

Read Mishima's "Forbidden Colours" and Genet's "Our Lady of The
Flowers" at the same time. Two great tastes that taste great together.
Two points for figuring out who copied what style when.
-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Spanish spelling
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:20:26 GMT
Reply-To: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl
Organization: Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam

In article l6r5tjINNiqt@mizar.usc.edu, adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
: In article <15502@star.cs.vu.nl> Moi!! writes:
: | adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
: | : ...  But then, Angelenos are
: | :notorious for making fun of tourists who mispronounce LA-area
: | :placenames of Spanish origin;
: | Now say 'Nieuwezijdse Voorburgwal.'  

: Nieuwezijdse Voorburgwal.  Ooops, I mean 'Nieuwezijdse Voorburgwal.'

Just you wait until the Multimedia extensions are installed. You won't
be able to get away with this, HA HA HA! Let's see you grovel as you
try to pronounce those quotation-marks.....

: |	FJ!! (Angelenos who make fun of that do not sound like nice people.) 

: Who wants nice?

You're right sensei. It must be my PMS.
							FJ!!




Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.individualism,alt.activism
From: rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger Leuthner)
Subject: Re: On Banning Private Discrimination
Keywords: games, fun
Reply-To: rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger Leuthner)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:29:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.230645.3987@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.183623.26162@pony.Ingres.COM> rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger Leuthner) writes:
>>Typical racism.  It really doesn't matter if they have anything to do with
>>it, it is just a convenient place to heap your garbage.
>
>Typical shallowness and selfishness.  If they benefit from it, and do not
>actively throw off the results of this benefit and work against it, they
>are responsible for it.

"actively throw off [...] benefit and work against it"

this kind of 'logic' is contrary to the evolution of life.  how this
attitude made it through natural selection, I don't want to begin to
guess.  i am constantly amazed by life.

"if they benefit from it, they are responsible for it"

This implies many interesting things.  Some examples:

	a child is responsible for its parents

	I am responsible for the vegetables that I eat

	the bacteria that live in your gut are responsible for you

	I am responsible for the rain that falls


you can enjoy your machocism, that is your right, but I won't espouse it.


Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: motss.com
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:09:24 GMT

shore@tc.cornell.edu writes:
>rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>> It would be VERY nice to
>> find a solution to this annual problem.  

>I'm kind of curious as to why you see this as a problem.  A
>disappointment, perhaps, but a *problem*?

	Well, I mean "problem" insofar as the ratio of men to womyn at
the cons is far higher than the ratio on the net, both in terms of
posters as well as muffins (as far as the two motss surveys indicate).
All things being equal, one should expect the same sort of ratio at the cons.
That this isn't the case, to me at least, says there is an inadequacy
in the cons: womyn are choosing not to go.  And yes it is a great
disappointment (at least to me).

	Something that just occurred to me: one possible explanation
(and I hope that people will feel free to clue me as to whether this
in any way is the case or not) is a simple matter of time/$$$ budgets.
Perhaps given limited time/$$$ for vacation-type things, and given the
choice of going to motss.con or another venue which is much more
womyn-oriented, people will choose the latter.  In this case,
saying "motss.cons are [more] male-dominated [than choice "B"]"
isn't so much of a putdown against the con as much as an honest
assessment that for some/many/most people there are "better" choices
for them to use what limited time/resources they have.  

>Anyway, as I pointed out, an anticipated dearth of women
>is only one of several reasons why I ended up not going.

	Yes, I understand that - I should have made it more clear that I
did --- not that you need to "explain" to me your reasons.

>While I am exceedingly fond of many of the motss regulars
>and while I expect that I'll really enjoy meeting them in
>the flesh (as it were), I'm currently pretty satisfied with
>my electronic interactions.  

	Understood.  I guess in a way, I am just trying to ascertain
what (if anything) we can do to improve the cons in the future.
This particular example is one that comes up pretty much yearly, and
so IMHO needs to be addressed.  If it is a "problem", it most certainly
deserves our attention.  If it isn't and is simply the by-product of
a different perspective, then nkowing this will be a good thing.

BBC
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From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.tv.soaps,soc.bi,alt.politics.homos
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:54:48 GMT

also,
there was/is the gay character on "Roseanee" played by Martin Mull (and whoever
played his lover/husband)
Xref: sparky soc.motss:33073 soc.bi:9860
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 23:54:54 EDT
From: Ailsa N.T. Murphy <IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
Subject: Re: Well, God Damn It! SPILL THE BEANS!
 <1992Jul29.135459.14226@watson.ibm.com>

yes, yes, TELL!!!  especially, anyone please tell their impressions
of any other net.personality...  i like celebrity gossip as much
as the next person!
                                            -ailsa
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Argggg (Job market)
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:36:27 GMT
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton

lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) wrote: 
->After sending out dozens of Resumes to head hunters all I've had are
->a few offers for sysadmin work in some inaccessable location.

after seeing your postings in job-hunting-related newsgroups i'm
surprised you get any offers at all.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>