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From: tony@ais.org (Tony Poole)
Subject: Re: Sticky uucico problems.
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:16:40 GMT

mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:

>In article <BvyuGD.FA2@ais.org> tony@ais.org (Tony Poole) writes:
>> What seems to be happening is that when it's "stuck", the same window of
>> data is being transferred over and over again.

>I have never seen this. Are you sure that data is being transferred?

Well, yup.....I mean, the receive data light is steadily glowing and the
send data light blinks at, oh half second intervals.  In other words,
looking at the modem you wouldn't be able to tell anything is wrong.

The connection *definitely* hasn't completed, and is just hanging.

>> It can happen at anytime during the connection (ie it doesn't always happen
>> on the last file or anything).
>>
>> This has happened to me 5 times in the last, oh, month or so.  Three of the
>> times I was lucky enough to determine there was a problem after it'd only
>> been on a couple hours.  The other two times were the above 9 hours, and a
>> 12 hour connection.  Ouch.

>I've seen something similar. Portions of UUCICO do not properly handle a
>protocol failure. Sometimes, UUCICO gives up. The problem is, it doesn't
>correctly release the modem.

Yeah, but I assume it also doesn't continue to transfer data one way or the
other, correct?

>I've minimized occurences of my similar problem by adding '-d0' to my UUCICO
>parameter string.

Nah...it never gets to the point where it wants to terminate the connection.

I really wish there was some way to nail some actual evidence on this or
something....a log file or whatever.  I can't be the only one this has ever
happened to (well, now that I think of it, and with my luck....).

Tony

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From: frank@hsr.no (Vanguard)
Subject: Alpha & Omega demo
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:17:27 GMT

I have made Alpha & Omega available for anonymous ftp from:

broremann.hsr.no (152.94.1.10)

So far it is the only demo in Amiga/demos , but I can promise that more are
coming.

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From: craigs@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Stace)
Subject: Christmas Demos
Keywords: WANTED
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:09:57 GMT

Could someone post or e-mail me and FTP site where I might find some Christmas 
themed demos for the Amiga.  Thanks.
 
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From: ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: U.S. users find A&O on wuarch
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:01:49 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <1992Oct13.200027.15068@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mjbrown@lonestar.utsa.edu (Marc J. Brown) writes:
>Thanks :).  Not to press my luck or anything... but would it be possible for
>whoever archives these demos to do it in two parts per disk?  Since I don't

Hiya Marc.

   I have the same problem. The way I've found around it is the following

1> Format a floppy to FFS (use 'format drive df0: name "whatever" FFS')
2> Copy the DMS file to the FFS floppy.
3> Drag-copy (drag the icon) the DMS file to RAM:
4> Cancel on the "Ram disk full" and the "Remove incomplet file" requesters.
5> Change to RAm: and 'dms write fiile.dms to df0:'
6> Watch for where the DMS file runs out.
7> Delete file.dms from RAM:, and copy DMS to RAM:
8> Insert the FFS floppy, and 'dms repack df0:file.dms to df0:part LOW XX'
   where XX is the track that DMS stopped on in the first run.

I have a basic A500+, with 1M RAM. The drag copy usually gets about 350K of
DMS file, so I can usually unpack most DMS files in two passes.

As for the UUENCODing bit, I can't help you.

  Hope this is of some use,

  EthaStorm  *8)
From: mjbrown@lonestar.utsa.edu (Marc J. Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: U.S. users find A&O on wuarch
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:00:27 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Oct13.081211.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> taaustin@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>Alpha & Omega was placed in the net by Frank Stevenson yesterday.
>This is a demo by the folks who brought us the incredible demo
>MESMERIZED.  For the folks in the U.S. who are interested I
>have placed it on wuarchive.  The directory path is
>systems/amiga/incoming/demos/a-and-o.dms

Thanks :).  Not to press my luck or anything... but would it be possible for
whoever archives these demos to do it in two parts per disk?  Since I don't
have even a 2nd drive, any DMS file over, say, 550K is too large for me
to decrunch.  Even if I DID have two drives, I have to uuencode the files
before I can download them, so if the file is larger than 670K or so, it's
too large to fit on a disk after encoding (not that I'd be able to decode
it later, but :).  Anyways, I know I'm not the only person who would
appreciate this.  Thanks in advance! :)

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From: stefanb@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker)
Subject: Re: Well over 2000fps (yes THOUSAND!)
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:04:10 GMT

Jesse_Michael@amwbbs.rain.com (Jesse Michael) writes:

>Why would you want to double-buffer at 2000fps without being able to change
>your buffers?

Nobody wants this, but the figure of 2000fps shows how fast the OS routines
are now. In other words you have only to spend 1/2000 of a second per frame
for switching the buffers. So nobody needs to bash the hardware directly
anymore.

	Stefan

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From: larshaug@ifi.uio.no (Lars Haugseth)
Subject: Re: Well over 2000fps (yes THOUSAND!)
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:29:24 GMT
Originator: larshaug@yrsa.ifi.uio.no


In article <stefanb.718985050@hathi>, stefanb@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker) writes:
> Jesse_Michael@amwbbs.rain.com (Jesse Michael) writes:
> 
> >Why would you want to double-buffer at 2000fps without being able to change
> >your buffers?
> 
> Nobody wants this, but the figure of 2000fps shows how fast the OS routines
> are now. In other words you have only to spend 1/2000 of a second per frame
> for switching the buffers. So nobody needs to bash the hardware directly
> anymore.

Sorry to disappoint you (?), but buffer-switching is not all we
use the hardware for...

BTW, I'm sure I can switch buffers atleast 20.000 times pr. second,
accessing the hardware directly.

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From: Jesse_Michael@amwbbs.rain.com (Jesse Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Over 20,000fps (yes TWENTY THOUSAND!)
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:38:30 PST
Organization: No Organization

Here's another statistic--

If I completely take over the machine and I can put my buffers anywhere I
want(i.e. a psygnosis game or a megademo), I can double-buffer 8 bitplanes
60000 times in 1.60 seconds.  That's 37500fps.  On a 7.16mhz 68000.

-Jesse (Haze of Epsilon)

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From: jimd@m2xenix.psg.com (Jim Dorman)
Subject: Ok, you coders, here's an opportunity
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:06:24 GMT

What, you ask?  And opportunity for what?

Well, I'll tell you.  An opportunity to make moeny, yes, MONEY, from coding
demos!

I'm starting a mobile multimedia/DJ business, and one of the major components
is an A2000HD, which will be hooked up to some video mixing gear and the
results projected for all to see.

What I need:  Demos.  GOOD ones, suitable to be shown with popular music (not
music in the demo, although a few are ok), something controllable would ber
even better.  The demos MUST be loadable to a startup point, so they have a
"go" button, as it were.  They also must be pause- and stop-capable, and they
should load and run as quickly as possible.  Also, NO greets, and credits should be kept to a minimum.

The system:  Currently, a 2000 with 1.2 ROMs and 1meg of RAM.  The RAM will
be increased shortly, and I'm hoping to get the latest ROMs soon.  No PAL vid
please.

Now, the money part:  If this comes off, I will pay contributors for their
work.  I don't know how much yet, or even if I will be successful enough to
be able to pay folks, but I do want to.  I'm a firm believer in paying for
stuff that's useful, and I know how much work goes into coding.

If you have more questions, please feel free to email me.  I will also be 
looking for someone to do something with my logo, which I can send along
to someone in whatever format they like (a b&w scan at 300dpi, you tell me
what you want to work with).  If I find someone with whom I can work well
and easily, there is a good probability of some long-term contract work.
You won't get rich, but it beats doing all this for free, right?
From: loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: FTP
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:33:48 GMT
Organization: Texas Net Illuminati
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

A quick request:

When you post an announcement that you've put xyz demo up on an FTP site,
could you please include the full filename as well as the path. Those of
use who have to use FTPMail would appreciate it -- it takes me 2 days to
get a directory listing!

Loyd

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From: foregone@stein.u.washington.edu (Ah so Grasshopper!)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Demo-Competition `92 ???
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:08:13 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1BD13369MK@tron.gun.de> m_krok@tron.gun.de (Matthias Krok) writes:
>Hello !
>
>A long time ago (last year) there was a "Demo-Competition `91" on which the
>ultimate "Odyssey" was released. Does anybody know anything about a new
>competition (`92) ??? I LOVE Odyssey, and there`s a chance to get a new demo
>in such a quality...
>
>(Sorry for my bad english (?), it`s german-school-english ;-)
>

What I've been wondering is where to get "Odyssey". I saw it on
wuarchive.wustl.edu, amiga.physik.unizh.ch or nic.funet.fi a couple of months
ago, but when I was about to ftp it, it disappeared!! Where can I get it now?

BTW, Matthias, your english isn't bad at all, it's better than my Deutsch
(Ich kann nicht gut Deutsch sprechen oder schreiben, aber ich kann es lesen!). 

- Carl Chavez
From: s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Pumpkin Power)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Psygnosis CDTV Demo
Date: 11 Oct 92 15:45:03 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

payotte@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul Ayotte) writes:

>Does anyone know of a site with the Psynosis CDTV demo? I recall it was 
>10 disks long.

And not strictly PD (i.e. it's not on any sites)

Pumpkin Power  :  s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
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From: slbfn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Well over 2000fps (yes THOUSAND!)
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:33:27 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <35657@cbmvax.commodore.com>, mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:

First, G. Coulter@Daresbury.ac.uk writes:

>>But .. does anyone know how fast this machine is I
>>have  a  quote  here  from a  UK  magazine " Amiga
>>Computing" that says at the unveiling of the A4000
>>at  the  recent world of Commodore Amiga  show  in
>>Pasadena CA a Commodore  employee demonstrated the
>>following. A HAM8 Raytraced animation that updated
>>at 60 frames per second in  640x400 resolution. He
>>also stated  that the A4000 could handle 60 frames
>>per second animation  in any resolution  and color
>>depth.

Then Commodore (mks@cbmvax.commodore.com) writes:
 
> Yes, the system calls in Release 3 that do double
> buffering can do it basically the same speed in all
> of the video modes.  Well over 2000fps...
>
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Now, you guys tell me why you'd have to pound the hardware if the system
calls can do over 2000fps.  That is *damn* fast.

I realize that peoply *like* to hit the hardware... but for speed?  Sounds
unnecessary.  What other techniques reqiure hitting the hardware besides
speed?  Copperlists?  Blitter stuff?  What?

Greetings,

	Travis Carter
	slbfn@cc.usu.edu
From: cshort@nmsu.edu (MetaPope, Internet in a Day Tour.)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Hardwired Demo booting problem...
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:48:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Research Lab

>>>>> On 10 Oct 92 15:51:12 GMT, 00tdboardman@bsu-ucs.uucp said:

>> Probably already asked before but:

>> When the Hardwired demo boots, and it prompts for disk2, and I stick it in, it
>> doesn't do anything.  What's wrong?  Both disks decompressed okay with DMS.
>> Pressing the right mouse button starts some weird (but cool) music, which just
>> repeats over and over...  What's the deal?
>> -- 

you need to be in pal mode...

c.

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From: sjurk@dhhalden.no (SJUR KRISTIANSEN)
Subject: ZOM packer format?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:15:16 GMT

I downloaded an amiga-demo with the file extension ZOM. What kind of packer 
is this, and where can I find it? I couldn't find it on Amiga.physik...
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From: m_krok@tron.gun.de (Matthias Krok)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Demo-Competition `92 ???
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:30:00 GMT
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neurath, Germany

Hello !

A long time ago (last year) there was a "Demo-Competition `91" on which the
ultimate "Odyssey" was released. Does anybody know anything about a new
competition (`92) ??? I LOVE Odyssey, and there`s a chance to get a new demo
in such a quality...

(Sorry for my bad english (?), it`s german-school-english ;-)

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From: payotte@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul Ayotte)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Psygnosis CDTV Demo
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 17:09:51 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Does anyone know of a site with the Psynosis CDTV demo? I recall it was 
10 disks long.

Paul Ayotte              payotte@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Christmas Demos
Keywords: WANTED
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:10:12 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <1992Oct8.062702.28680@athena.cs.uga.edu> hazen@athena.cs.uga.edu (Mark) writes:
>craigs@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Stace) writes:
>
>>Could someone post or e-mail me and FTP site where I might find some Christmas
>>themed demos for the Amiga.  Thanks.
>
>Try looking around for the Megawatts Xmas Demo '91.
>There are rumors that there will be a '92 Megawatts Christmas demo to
>make the first pale.
>Of course, this is only a rumor, and should only be spread or printed
>if you really, really, want to.
>

Let's take the rumour a little further. A reliable source says that MegaWatts
are trying to have it ready for November, so that it can reviewed by the
scurrilous computing press for Xmas, instead of last year's fiasco of reviewing
it in The March after Xmas!!!

  EthaStorm  *8)
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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Well over 2000fps (yes THOUSAND!)
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:28:20 GMT

In <1992Oct13.172924.7328@ifi.uio.no> larshaug@ifi.uio.no (Lars Haugseth) writes:
>Sorry to disappoint you (?), but buffer-switching is not all we
>use the hardware for...

Sure, but it was the major time eater.. something like RethinkDisplay()
took 60-80% of a frame time on slow machines, now it takes 3%.

>BTW, I'm sure I can switch buffers atleast 20.000 times pr. second,
>accessing the hardware directly.

Yes, but who cares if you can't switch buffers that fast on other
hardware or even on a draggable screen.

Regards,
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From: jasong@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: Well over 2000fps (yes THOUSAND!)
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:09:03 GMT

Well pple the figure of 2000fps for swapping between two screen buffers is all
very well and impressive sounding, but how fast is it?

1/2000 = 1/40 of a 1/50 of a second frame to swap that screen!
         by my reckoning this is about 8 scanlines of time!
And this provides ample reason to bash the hardware since it will be at least
6 to 8 times faster.
Where do commodore get off not providing me with all the information I want on
a machine I have (hypothetically) just spent large sums of money on! Since
when has organised ignorance been a solution? (for most of the middle ages
by my guess ;-) ) If i choose to bash the hardware that is my choice and I well
know that my code probably ain't gonna run elsewhere but who really gives a
rat's bottom NEway!

<flame off now>

Jason "move.w #$7fff,$dff09a" Gallagher

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From: mjbrown@lonestar.utsa.edu (Marc J. Brown)
Subject: Re: U.S. users find A&O on wuarch
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 04:11:34 GMT

In article <crystal.719202350@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

>5)  Why do people insist on using DMS when I've been told that it often gives
>    "Fatal error" when unarc'ing thereby wasting a LOT of time trying to get
>    a large file opened up?

I've not ever had such a problem with DMS, except the few occasions when I
had forgotten to receive the file as binary data.  Hmm... actually, for me
it DOES give me "fatal error" every time I use it...AFTER it's all done
decrunching to disk... I've always wondered why.

>BTW, as for the UUencoding - if you have access to VAX or Unix host, you can
>uuDECODE the files before downloading (or upload them to the host and decode
>them).  I understand there is a uudecode for the Amiga, but you need uudecode
>to decode it - pretty sick joke if you ask me... :<   (but you didn't...)

Actually, my problem with uuencoding files is this: I HAVE to uuencode them
if I want to download anything, because, since I have to send data through
two systems, the buffer overflows eventually, causing an automatic timeout,
BUT uuencode sends its 7-bit data at a rate which apparently can be dealt
with.  (Actually, I have been toying with the "terminal flowcontrol
software" command recently so I may have better luck in the future).
Unfortunately, when I encounter files of like 700K or more, the resulting
uuencoded file is too large to fit on an 880K disk.  It's also too large
to fit in RAM along with a terminal program.  Near as I can tell, there is
no way to solve this, unless there is a term program option that uudecodes
automatically while ascii-capturing (is there?).

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From: s1070422@giaea.cc.monash.edu.au (BATMAN (D.Binding))
Subject: Richter Tobias stuff. Where?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:32:11 GMT

To all you ftp lovers out there do you know any ftp sites where any Ricter
Tobias demos may be stored.
And while l am talking about ftp sites does anyone know where any fish disks
are stored. And l mean the older ones < 500.

Thanks.

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