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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:34:26 EST
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From:         Ta Fuh Chiam <chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PATHworks TEI license bundle question

>Does this mean that if do participate in ESL, I have the
>rights-to-new-versions free of cost?  And I do not have to purchase the client
>LPS?  I thought that I do have to purchase the LPS (about $10 a station a
>month) for the right to run the current version of software and technical
>support.  I wouldn't be concerned about technical support, but I
>certainly am about the current version.  Does anybody have a clear
>understanding how the maintenance of Pathworks works?  Thanks in advance.

In a nutshell, yes. If you have CSLG and ESL, you can add your PATHWORKS clients
to ESL and receive rights-to-new-version for PATHWORKS. Keep in mind that you
must count each client (PC or MAC) in the total ESL CPU count, which may or may
not increase your ESL cost, depending on how many CPU you have under ESL. ESL is
essentially LPS.

The following is a message I posted a while back.

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>We are using Pathworks for DOS and for Mac extensively in our University.
>One of the problems we have encountered is payment for updates to the DOS
>and Mac clients.  One-time payments are expensive, but to purchase
>Layered Product Support (LPS) for all 150 DOS clients would amount to about
>$1200/month.  Has anyone out there discovered an inexpensive method for
>getting updates when they are released?

This has been covered before but here goes again ...

You have several options. First, you do not have to purchase LPS if you do not
want to. You can opt to purchase the license or the update license (if there is
such as beast for Pathworks, I have not looked into it so you will have to
figure it out or contact your friendly local DEC sales rep.) and the media and
documentation whenever a new version is released or whenever you would like to.
It may turn out cheaper, it may not, depending on how often a new version is
released. Even if there is no update license for Pathworks and you need to
purchase the real license when a new version is released, it is not too
expensive if you have that many clients. The cost for a 100 bundle purchase
under TEI discount scheme is definitely less than $10,000, if I remember
correctly. This is cheaper than paying $14,400 for LPS which you have just
described.

Your second option is to place it under ESL if you already have ESL. This may or
may not come out cheaper depending on how many systems you have under ESL. The
price for 25 to 100 systems is roughly $20,000. It's $30,000 for 100 systems and
more (Hmm, I think that is correct.) Anyway, there is no price increase after
100 systems. So, if you are in ESL and is already paying $20,000, it will be
cheaper to add all your PC clients into ESL for Pathworks for LPS since you only
need to pay $10,000 more, which is less than what you would pay for LPS without
ESL.

Ta Fuh Chiam
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