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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: ??                       
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:35:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Sheri,

->    I have the problem sometimes where just because I don't work
-> outside of
-> the home it's assumed that I can do it all!!

Yes , I've heard of that problem before, and I sympathize.

-> I don't always want to and there are some things that I just don't
-> want to do.. ( like be in the room during a party!!!)... and I am
-> learning to say no...

Good for you! Self preservation is an important thing.

-> I think they feel better for saying I pushed my kids since mine
-> appear to be a bit ahead of hers..
-> .
-> instead of it just being the fact that my kids are different than
-> hers....my sister even told me once that it wasn't possible for my
-> son to weigh more than her son since he was six months older than
-> mine ( I didn't understand that one at all!!) my son does weigh more
-> than her's... though he doesn't look it...

Boy, that's baffling. Why would those two think that age is necessarily
tied to height or weight? I am afraid to imagine what wierd ideas her
kids will grow up with. My girlfriend's son was born almost a year after
my son. And my son was 9 lbs 12 oz (a very large baby) while her son was
only about 6 lbs (below average). Yet, with my son now almost seven
years old, her son is quite a bit taller/larger than my son. It seems
wierd, but it's true. And as you say, nothing I can do about it.

->    We started out as message only... now we have some games and 5
-> nets that
-> we belong to!!  And we are going to add files.. ( we bought two cd
-> roms and are going to put files on those...).. it's really grown in
-> the last few months..

Isn't it amazing how carried away one can get with this BBS stuff <g>.

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                         

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From: Scott.Andersen@f430.n110.z1.fidonet.org (Scott Andersen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: RE: Re: DTS Question
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 11:00:58 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:110/430 - CURRENTS, Dayton OH

The name came from The Poet's Society Movie, at least that was
the inspiration for the name!   Since then we have grown past the inspriation
due to lots of helping persperation.   We have over 780 members in 13
countires and 48 states!
Scott


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From: Sheri.Shanks@f375.n110.z1.fidonet.org (Sheri Shanks)
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Subject: ??
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 16:49:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:110/375 - Hot Air Xpress, Englewood OH

 > stay-at-home mom w/a work-at-home husband and two schooled-at- home
 > kids;  some days are a lot of fun, and some days I'm just a little
 > jealous of moms with enough sense to either go somewhere else during
 > the day, or send their husband and kids somewhere else for the day!

     I thought about home schooling my kids... for about 5 minutes!!  I don't
have the patience to have them home all day.... nor to teach them. I did do
some when they were younger.. ( but I think that all parents, if interested
in their kids, are teachers..)

 LL> This time of year, I think we're running around more than we're
 LL> home- swimming, martial arts, ballet class, gymnastics...
 LL> wintertime's starting to look good already!

     The weather has been so rotten here that we have spent a lot of time at
home!!  And the kids have been inside most of the time!  It's starting to get
to all of us.....

 > about your kids- mine are both girls, 4 1/2 and 8.  My little one's
 > beginning to read, and my oldest has recently developed quite an
 > interest in the piano and cooking.    -LL

     I have a girl who is 8 and a boy who is 7..( they are 15 months apart)..
My daughter is really into reading... so much so that I can't get her to do
any of the work that I want her to do... I really hate telling her to stop reading
and clean up her room or something..but if I left it up to her she would read
all the time and do nothing else!!!
  My son reads a little.. he bascially taught himself to read..but he's been
around reading all of his life.  When we go on long trips we get books and tapes...
and they have been listening to them since they were 15 months old!!  He's also
into blocks... just loves lego's.. almost as much as my daughter likes to read!!
 My daughter likes to dance and takes ballet and jazz... my son just got into
sports.. he started out with wrestling and then soccer and then baseball.. but
wrestling seems to be his favorite.... and he only weighs 50 pounds!! It's kinda
funny to see this little skinny kid going at it on the mat with another little
skinny kid!!

                                                            Sheri



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From: Sheri.Shanks@f375.n110.z1.fidonet.org (Sheri Shanks)
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Subject: ??
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 92 08:41:02 PST
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 SK> was already doing!! Sometimes I feel the same about the school
 SK> activities too, although not as much. When they ask for parent
 SK> volunteers to go on the field trips to help the teachers, I wish I
 SK> could go, but I have to work.

     I have the problem sometimes where just because I don't work outside of
the home it's assumed that I can do it all!!  I don't always want to and there
are some things that I just don't want to do.. ( like be in the room during
a party!!!)... and I am learning to say no... I don't like to do it..but sometimes
I just have to!!

 SK> I hear you there. I think these other people who say you are
 SK> pushing your kids just have to come up with an explanation to make
 SK> them feel better.

     I think that is the way it is with my mom and sister. I think they feel
better for saying I pushed my kids since mine appear to be a bit ahead of hers...
instead of it just being the fact that my kids are different than hers....my
sister even told me once that it wasn't possible for my son to weigh more than
her son since he was six months older than mine ( I didn't understand that one
at all!!) my son does weigh more than her's... though he doesn't look it...
but it's nothing I have any control over!! ( I guess I could make him eat more
candy which he doesn't like..which is my fault also since I don't allow them
to eat candy whenever they want!!.. and I could make him do less and spend more
time sititng around watching TV... gosh when you look at all that I have done
to my kids it's a wonder they are doing as well as they are!!! heheheheheeh).....
but my sister and mom have weird ideas about things.. and I'm learning to ignore
them and do what I feel is best for my kids!

 SK> Well, this BBS has been up and running for (I think) four years
 SK> now. It was my husband's hobby and it is mostly devoted to gaming.

     We started out as message only... now we have some games and 5 nets that
we belong to!!  And we are going to add files.. ( we bought two cd roms and
are going to put files on those...).. it's really grown in the last few months..
and it takes two of us now to keep it going!

                                                  Sheri


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From: Lori.Loranger@p0.f114.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lori Loranger)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: RE: Re: DTS Question
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 09:26:09 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/114.0 - The Electronic Educ, Washougal WA

Scott
 > The name came from The Poet's Society Movie, at least that

I wondered if there was a connection..
 >    We have over 780 members in 13 countries and 48 states!
What are the costs/benefits of membership- what does the DTS do?
     -LL



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From: Sheri.Shanks@f375.n110.z1.fidonet.org (Sheri Shanks)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: ??
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 08:47:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:110/375 - Hot Air Xpress, Englewood OH

 SK> Good for you! Self preservation is an important thing.

     It' taken me awhile to learn to do that.. and I still don't do it often
enough... I still find myself doing things that I really didn't want to do but
I didn't know how to say no without hurting feelings!

 SK> Boy, that's baffling. Why would those two think that age is
 SK> necessarily tied to height or weight? I am afraid to imagine what
 SK> wierd ideas her kids will grow up with. My girlfriend's son was

     The thing with them is that I can't do anything right.. never have been
able to and I think they think I'll never be able to.  THey don't understand
why I limit my kids sugar intake and why I don't allow them to have caffeine
when I'm not a "health food nut".. my sister has some really strange ideas...
one of the strangest is that she buys a different type of vitamin every time
for her kids... one time it will be with extra iron.. another time with extra
c ... and so forth.. and she only buys them every other month.. the reason..
she doesn't want her kids bodies "getting use to the vitamins and then having
to give them more and more like you have to do when someone gets to much a a
certain drug"....she doens't want their bodies to become immune to the vitamins...
no matter what I tell her she won't listen so I have stopped.... all I can say
is that whatever I have been doing...my kids are healthy, happy, semi- well
adjusted kids who aren't worried about weight or things like that and who like
to read and enjoy school and get good grades without resorting to bribes to
do so!


 SK> Isn't it amazing how carried away one can get with this BBS stuff <g>.

     It's amazing how much time and money they can take up !!!!

                                                            Sheri


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From: Scott.Andersen@f430.n110.z1.fidonet.org (Scott Andersen)
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Subject: RE: Re: DTS Question
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 13:45:15 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:110/430 - CURRENTS, Dayton OH

Glad to see you here also Elliott!   Sorry about the mis-spelling!
We have to get a conversation going on K-12 net. . .It is the next
area I want to expand the DTS into!


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From: Elliott.Mitchell@p7.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Elliott Mitchell)
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Subject: RE: Re: DTS Question
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 22:48:46 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.7 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

  SA> We have to get a conversation going on K-12 net. . .It is the next area
I
  SA> want to expand the DTS into!
I thought you were here all along and I just recently found it!  Oh, well, just
shows to go you.

Elliott

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From: Lori.Loranger@p0.f114.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lori Loranger)
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Subject: Re: ??
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 09:31:44 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/114.0 - The Electronic Educ, Washougal WA

Sheri-
 > patience to have them home all day. .nor to teach them. I did do
 > some when they were younger.. ( but I think that all parents,
 > if interested in their kids, are teachers..)
 It can be tough to have everyone here all the time, but the older
the kids get, the less of a problem it becomes. Our home school is
very unstructured; what we do is really just a continuance of what
we did when they were younger.  On good days, everyone is busy
independently pursuing whatever activity they're interested in
 >      The weather has been so rotten here that we have spent
 What part of the world are you bbs-ing from?
 >      I have a girl who is 8 and a boy who is 7..
 > My daughter is really into reading... ..she would read
 > all the time and do nothing else!!!

My oldest has been known to literally walk around with her nose in 

a book.  Perhaps your daughter and mine would be interested in bbs-

ing a bit? I'm sure Amber would like to hear about what someone else
is reading- she likes mysteries that aren't too scary, paperback
fiction, books about how to do things (make crafts, etc), and has 

been known to torture us mercilessly with books of unbearable jokes
 >   My daughter likes to dance and takes ballet and jazz...
My youngest is taking ballet now- I think Amber will start again this
fall.  They switch between gymnastics and ballet, with swimming and
other misc. stuff interspersed...I have to laugh when I hear the oft-

repeated concern that homeschooled kids are socially deprived
 > funny to see this little skinny kid going at it on the mat
 > with another little skinny kid!!
The kids wrestle some in kung-fu class, and it really can be a riot; 
picture my 4-1/2 yr old w/long red ringlets holding down a doe-eyed 
little boy while our teacher tries to maintain his martial-arts-
 
discipline seriousness...
   BreAna enjoys books, but seems more interested in numbers; we spend 

a lot of time in the car, and always know the speed limit, etc. (three 
five, Mom..)  She reads us number signs just like Amber used to read 
the lettered ones.       -later  -LL



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From: Amanda.Mosen@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Amanda Mosen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: re: Colors!
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 92 07:15:08 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hi Kimberly,

Thanks for returning the message.

KB>One thing I really need now is how colors go together in a fashion
KB>sense.  If you're good at that (or even if you're bad at it
KB><grin>) see if you can't think soemthing up and drop me a line -
KB>it'd be much appreciated.

Well, I know which colours look right together, and whigh don't, but
it's quit hard to make a difinitive statement on the matter, as there
are so many variations in shades of colour that can make so much
difference eg. to say that black and blue don't look right together
would be acceptable say, 80% of the time, but there are certain shades
of blue, such as teal, which look fantastic with black, and it is
perfectly acceptable for a man to wear black shoes with a navy blue
suit, although I wouldn't recommend wearing a navy skirt with a black
blouse!   It's all so complex!   I made my husband a chart for when he
goes away, with the colours of his shirts across the top, and the
colours of his trousers down the side, and either a letter Y or N at the
point at which they intersect, depending on whether they looked right
together or not.   I then braille labelled each garment with a colour
tag, so he could tell what colour everything was.   This system is fine
for a limited number of items of clothing, but I don't think it would
work as a generalised document for all blind people.

KB>It sounds like maybe you'd be a good candidate to
KB>beta test the software - do you have a speech synthesizer in
KB>your computer?  You could test it even if you don't, but a
KB>primary concern of mine is that all synthesizers be able to work
KB>with it.

We certainly do.   In this computer we have an Accent synthesiser which
Jonathan uses in conjunction with VocalEyes.   On the bulletin board PC
he uses the Keynote Gold card with Mastertouch.   Another blind friend
of mine (who is much more interested in colours than Jonathan, and very
fashion conscious) has a Synphonix card, and uses flipper.   I'm sure
she'd be interested in your programme.

We have a 9600 baud modem, so should be able to make quite a quick
transfer (although it would be a long distance toll call).   Please drop
me a line to work out a suitable time once your programme's ready.

On a slightly different note, where does your interest in this subject
stem from?   Are you a blind person yourself, or do you work with blind
people?

I look forward to chatting some more with you.

Amanda
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From: Amanda.Mosen@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Amanda Mosen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: Families
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 92 07:15:06 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hi Mary,

I was so thrilled to get your message.   You sound like an absolutely
delightful person.

   You asked me to tell you something about myself.   Well... Here goes!
I'm a primary (elementary) school teacher, and I live in Auckland, New
Zealand. (To be more accurate, if you have a very good atlas, I live in
Papakura, which is a small city, about 35km south of Auckland).   I am
23 years old.   I have been married for just over 18 months to a guy
called Jonathan.   He is a radio announcer, and is totally blind (the
only blind announcer in the country).   We have no children at this
stage, as I think I told you.   I come from a bit of a mixed up family;
I was an only child until the age of seventeen, When my mother remarried
a widower who had seven children of his own.   My father died in the
same year (My Mum and Dad had been separated for about six years).
My parents (mother and step-father) live on an Island called Tiritiri
Matangi, which is an open bird sanctuary for many of our country's most
endangered species.   It is a very beautiful place.

   I only graduated from teachers' college in December last year, and have
been teaching since February.   I was very fortunate to win a position in a
good school.   It is called Papakura Normal Primary School.    "Normal"
because it is associated with the teachers' college, and we have a lot of
trainee teachers coming through.   They have never appointed a beginning
teacher before, so I am a bit of an experiment!   I have a little class (15)
of standard 1,2 & 3 children (approximately 2nd - 4th grade). They are a
really interesting bunch, many of them atypical of children their ages.
I have a few very bright children; one who has a reading age higher than
14 - which is where our tests stop, but is extremely socially retarded
for his age, another who is very artistic, but totally unmotivated in
other areas (but I'm working hard to change that!)   I also have a
number of children who find school work very challenging, so it all
makes life interesting!

   I'd love to hear from you again, so if you find a spare moment,
please write back.

Amanda
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From: Ian.Bishop@f371.n640.z3.fidonet.org (Ian Bishop)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: re: Colors!
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 23:50:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/371 - ESE ESCAPE BBS, Brisbane Qld Australia

AM>>I am also very interested in this area, as my husband has been blind
AM>>from birth, and has no idea what colour, or sight even for that matter,
AM>>is.

Excuse me for butting in here, but the following statement you made
strikes a very solid chord with me (yes, I'm a Musician)

AM>>I see certain keys in music as having different colours, eg. E flat
AM>>major is royal blue, D major is brown, C major is white, A minor is
AM>>black, B flat major is purple, F major is yellow, G major is green, etc.
AM>>It's a bit wierd really, I suppose, and something every musician would
AM>>probably have different views on (if they had any at all), but I guess
AM>>it adds another dimension to this conversation topic.

I would tend to agree with this.  In addition to simply colour
comparison's, many keys have emotional colours.  ie. D major is always
associated with very martial, formal events (when only D trumpets were
available - all fanfare type music in D maj).  This topic of
conversation is very interesting (and not just for musicians) and would
probably be also appreciated in the performing arts section as food for
though for music teachers.

Best regards, Ian

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From: Andre.Bisquera@f29.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Andre Bisquera)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Vocal Jazz Arangements
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 12:15:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/29 - The Catlin Gabel Sc, Portland OR

Hi!  I belong to a vocal jazz group called Mountain Express.  We are 
currently looking for any hip jazz arangements you may have or know 
of.  If you, or someone you know has some, please contact me.  Thanks

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From: Carol.Bauerle@f5.n394.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Bauerle)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Anyone wanting to chat...
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:31:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:394/5 - CH A D D CBCS, Hammond LA

Hi Chad!  It's nice to hear you are involved musically.  It is very 
important that you experience this.  My daughter, Laura is 17 and enjoys 
playing the Sax.  She has been practicing very hard to be 1st chair in band 
her Senior year.  My other daughter Lisa is 14 and just began playing the 
drums.  Well, actually hitting sticks on walls, furniture etc.... we have 
not invested in a drum set yet.  We are seeing how her first few lessons go 
first.  Myself, I sing and play the piano (sort of).  I will be performing 
with the Baton Rouge Symphony Chorus this coming year and also the local 
community chorus "North Shore Choral Society".  We enjoy all this very much. 
 I have a Clavinova - 50 electric piano I am still trying to figure out all 
the bells and whistles. HA HA.  Well, gatta go.  Keep practicing!!!!
Always,  Carol 
 

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From: Ian.Bishop@f203.n640.z3.fidonet.org (Ian Bishop)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Frederick Fennell
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 14:07:14 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/203 - Redcliffe Library, Redcliffe Qld Australia

 NO> To but in here, I'm a male Flutest in the US Army. I had the chance to 
 NO> perform with Mr Fennell several years ago in Japan. He is great. 
 NO>   It was durring a band clinic, and unfortunately the students were rude,

From what I've heard from recordings and the like - he'd be the conductor most likely to bring the best out of a group.  Dr Sandra Dackow seems to be extraordinarily talented as well.  I was conducted by her as part of the Australian National band and Orchestra Conference

 NO> obviously not realizing the oppertunity they were waisting. If not for
 NO> their attatudes, it would have been a great concert.

Oh So True!!  Anyone who wastes a chance to acquire knowledge from such a source isn't serious.

 NO>   So, Ian, what places will you visit on your tour? 

I honestly don't know for sure, but I want to peruse to exhibits for some good CD's!!!!

 NO>    Take care, and enjoy the tour!   the Night Owl

Thanks mate.

Regards, Ian




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From: Amanda.Mosen@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Amanda Mosen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Re: BELL CHOIRS
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 92 07:15:04 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hi John,

JM>Amanda -- WOW! Sounds intriguing.  Yes, I'd really like
JM>those measurements, if you don't mind.  It sounds like
JM>something my students could work on themselves.

I'll get them when I'm at school tomorrow (I'm at home at the moment).
I'm sure your students will enjoy making and playing them.

Amanda
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