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From: sharris@chopin.udel.edu (Scott A Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: appletalk: mac & GS
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:29:46 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <36715@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> where@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:
>Not being a guru of Appletalk (or knowing anything about it for that matter)
>  Next question: Does a Mac LC2 use the same monitor as the GS? (the AppleColor
>RGB 12" with .37mm tri-dot-pitch)
>   Please post replies, or mail them to WENDTM@FIRNVX.FIRN.EDU
>    Thanks in advance, Mark



I went through the same thing when I was trying to buy a mac.  And I 
questioned and questioned people, all of whom said no.  I still didn't
believe them, so I brought my monitor to work with me one day, and guess
what, it didn't work just like everyone else said.  What a bum deal.

Scott


-- 
Scott Harris
sharris@chopin.udel.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Joysticks, Apple vs. IBM (was Re: Woz //gs's)
Keywords: Apple //gs FOREVER!
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:48:09 GMT

>>Hmmm...don't they have wider connectors on the IBM (DB connectors...they
>>certainly don't have 16-pin ones)? I recall seeing a joystick that could be
>>used on a ][ or on one of those other nameless beasts...there were two
>>quite different plugs on the cable, one for the ][, one for the BM.
>>
>
>IBM joysticks connect to a "game port" on the PC which happens to have a 
>9-pin DB connector (actually a "DE" connector as I recall the standard).
>This matches the external joystick port on the ][e, ][gs, and (I think)

I do not think this is correct, especially snce I just spend the
afternoon yeterday fighting with an IM joystick that had gone bad.
The IBM uses a 15 or 16-pin connection (can' remmber which) or the
game port.
(The 9-pin is the serial connection for modems or mice or whatever).

I have seen a few joystks wth a wird cable, with an IBM connector
and then some more cable to an Apple II connection.  ven fewr ae those
that supply an IBM to Apple II converter wire (since I think the IBM
actally ignores many of th pins on its connector).

It would probably be possible to simply build such a "converter" cable,
but you would need to know the pinouts for each machine.
-- 
()()()  Grover Thomas   ()()()
From: JOEL@jach.hawaii.edu (Joel Aycock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: BASIC listing => TEXT file ??
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:57:21 GMT
Organization: UK Infrared Telescope, Joint Astronomy Centre, Hawaii
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Aug15.012509.23905@news.Hawaii.Edu> JOEL@jach.hawaii.edu writes:

> Does anyone know how I can get an ASCII text file on disk, from a BASIC
> program listing? I want to be able to transfer readable listings to
> another (non-Apple) machine.... 

=========================================================================
From:	MX%"jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu" 14-AUG-1992 16:29:02.52

From BASIC.SYSTEM, you enter the following somewhere in your program:

]65000 PRINT CHR$(4)"CREATE LISTING,TTXT"
]65001 PRINT CHR$(4)"OPEN LISTING"
]65002 PRINT CHR$(4)"WRITE LISTING"
]65003 LIST: PRINT CHR$(4)"CLOSE"

That will capture the BASIC program in the text file LISTING.  It will
de-tokenize everything for you.
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Internet: jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu   ProLine: eric@pro-tcc.cts.com
GEnie:    KITCHEN.SINK

===============================================================================
Eric-

	of course... now I'm sorry I wasted everyone's time- I have 
actually used Applesoft OPEN FILE before, and should have thought of this 
myself (it has been awhile tho- most of my BASIC experience was in the 
late 70's & early 80's, good excuse?)

	anyway- thanks for the FAST reply, this is a great help.

aloha-
	joel.
From: t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: New GS Freeware
Keywords: GS Freeware support
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:28:06 GMT
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])

R. Anthony writes:

> There is no doubt that there are some very talented freeware programmers in
> the GS world.  These programmers work off the support and feedbackl that we
> give them.  There is a very talented programmer named Quinn.  If people would
> mail him, he has a mod player done in C (NT tool), a new version of his game
> Cyberwar, Lazerball Demo (clone of Speedball on the Amiga) and with some 
> response, I am sure he could be persuaded to finish his game Warrior Saga,  
> like a GS Knights of Legend.  This just names some of his work.  
> 
> His address is quinn@griffin.cuc.ab.ca
> 
> Support GS freeware/shareware authors. . . 


Well, I've never seen any of those files, and I cruse the FTP sites daily 
looking for more PD/ShareWare programs to put on TCQ. I also blow about 
$200 a month on LD bills doing the same on some fifty systems around the 
country.

Perhaps if these programs popped into tybalt or some other ftp site the 
rest of us would be interested...


Tc Wilson/The Captain           "Programming is an art form
t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com        that fights back."
.... or try: TCQ, The Captain's Quarters (614) 294-0556, 300-38400 hst
From: ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: gs.os.FST?
Date: 22 Aug 92 11:56:08 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Fri Aug 21 92 at 06:24:33 (EST)

As far as this thread goes, someone mentioned (and I don't feel like searching
for that exact message :) ) that such an FST would not be compatible with
ProDOS 8.  It should be pointed out that the HFS FST is not compatible with P8
as it is!  So I don't believe this should be considered a roadblock.  I do
believe though that the IIe/c deserve a "ProDOS II" would be a bunch of things
that it could be, such as longer pathnames and such.  

>> It should support file and disk sizes up to the full limit of GS/OS
parameters, i.e. 4 gigabytes per file or disk. <<

I notice a few keywords here, noticably "the full limit of GS/OS..."  I think
such a new FST should take GS/OS to its limit, with things like (as you said)
4 gigabytes of storage, 255 (256?) long pathnames, larger allocation blocks,
and the like.  It should also be as fast as possible. :)  Anyone think Apple
would make such a thing, possibly as it's "last" project? :(

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From: PKBRANDON@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Swich It and Multitasking
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:38:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

The difference between program switching and true multitasking is that
the latter (also referred to as time sharing) continues the operations of
two (or more) programs _simultaneously_.  Thus, you could recalculate a
spreadsheet while working on a wordprocessor document.  Obviously this
demands a great deal of CPU power, which is why it's not really workable
even on most Macs.  Even a triple-speed GS would slow to a crawl!
Sorry :-(
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    Paul Brandon    ---   INTERNET:    PKBRANDON@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU
From: paw@ausom.oz.au (Peter Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: system software idea
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:59:07 GMT
Reply-To: paw%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Re: Battery RAM settings for the built-in CDA's on ROM 03 machines.

I don't own a ROM 03, but my understanding is that the default setting for
a ROM 03 is to _install_ the CDA's, so resetting the BRAM isn't going to
remove them!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: Sys 6 & Paintworks Gold
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:57:59 GMT

In article <11060011@hplsla.hp.com> billh@hplsla.hp.com (Bill Harris) writes:
>block editor?  I have a copy of PWG I still run under the original launcher, 
>because I have been unsuccessful in finding the correct location to patch
>using a home-written program.

Gads!  You still launch the ile from the mini-launcher?  Just renae
the PaintWorks proram to Paint.sy16 o something similar, and it
should boot directly into the pogram.
-- 
()()()  Grover Thomas   ()()()
From: lorend@pro-scat.cts.com (Loren Damewood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Need software for Apple
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:45:38 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.

In <hc69885@pro-sweosd.cts.com>
roland@pro-sweosd.cts.com (System Administrator) writes:

>On the proline pro-sweosd can you get a PD software calls TIC
>
>It is a communcation program for Apple
>
>------
>Proline:  roland@pro-sweosd Apple Users Group of Sweden 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>InterNet: roland@pro-sweosd           
>UUCP:     crasch!pro-sweosd!roland 
>ARPA:     crash!pro-sweosd!roland@nosc.mil

I'm not entirely sure how to interpret this - but in case you are in any
doubt as to the status of TIC, it is not public domain, not freeware, not
shareware. There should be no copies of it available online for downloading
under any circumstances, as it is a commercially available program. It used
to be shareware but is now handled through Quality Computers (800-443-6697)
instead. There are demo versions online, with some features disabled, but
those can't be considered PD either . . .  

Loren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: Question about gs memory expansion cards
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:29:55 GMT

>I've been looking to buy a memory expansion card for my gs.  Well, since I
>already have the Apple memory card, I wanted something that would work with
>it.  I was wondering you anyone could name me a few brands that would work.
>(How about the gs ramworks plus by AE?)
>
>My main concern is that the chips on the Apple memory card are soldered to the
>board... would that make any difference?

hat's no problem,  simply fired up my soldering iron, carefully removed
the chips, and replced them with socket.

I would recommend against any AE RAM product, since they tend to "cheat"
a lot.  I am very happy with my CV Tech RAMcard, and it lets you plug
your Apple card into a special "piggy-back" slot.
-- 
()()()  Grover Thomas   ()()()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Swich It and Multitasking
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:33:59 GMT

cjs@ausom.oz.au (Cameron Silver) writes:

>My understanding of Switch It is that it can suspend execution of program A,
>and resume executing program B, at the user's request; and of course go the
>other way. Now if it switched between programs A and B very rapidly, wouldn't
>it be (at the user's point of view) the same as multitasking the two programs?

Sure. But, oh fun, think of the switching-times you have. Every time SI
switches, it has to save and restore a whole context, which takes _quite_
some time. As user, you wouldn't notice, but if you attempted to switch every
say 1/60th of a second, you darn sure would.

So, I'm afraid that wouldn't work too well :)

Soenke

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kgapp@gagme (Kevin Gapp)
Subject: Re: Has the 2GS been dropped?
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:59:56 GMT

>In article <3277@carroll1.cc.edu> acct040@carroll1.cc.edu (Scott
>Anderson) writes:
>>I was told yesterday by a mac developer that the // line was
>>completely discontiued by apple at apple expo east last week.  Is
>this true?
 
Steven replies:
 
>        What's wrong with this statement?  The obvious thing that
>comes to mind is that Apple Expo East hasn't happened yet.  It is
>slated for October 2-4 (or thereabouts).
>
>        Anyway, at K'fest, Tim Swihart said they were still producing
>Apple IIGS's...
>
>>--Scott
>
>Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY
>16/256/3200
>stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple
>IIGS.
>America On_Line:  DWS Steve

Well, actually Apple did announce that they were going to stop producing the IIgs.  The excuse they gave was that they could not get any more RGB GS monitors, and they refused to sell the computer without offering a monitor as well.  So, when the monitors run out, there will be NO more GS's produced.  Not like they were rolling thousands of the assembly line each day or anthing. :(  But there are still a lot of machines out there!  And a lot of machines cna be bought used and CHEAP now.

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* Kevin Gapp                                                 Apple IIgs RuleZ *
*     Ask me about BoOgiE BoaRdZ SysTemZ bbs software for the Apple II.       *
*             "Anything worth doing, is worth bitching about!"                *
* kgapp@gagme.chi.il.us                                   Lake Forest Academy *
*******************************************************************************


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* Kevin Gapp						     Apple IIgs RuleZ *
*     Ask me about BoOgiE BoaRdZ SysTemZ bbs software for the Apple II.	      *
*  	   "Anything worth doing, is worth bitching about!		      *
* kgapp@gagme.chi.il.us					  Lake Forest Academy *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix2.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: VAMPS - seriously, now
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:34:12 GMT

vi Help File

Adding text:

	a	append text after cursor
	A	append text after end of line
	i	insert text before cursor
	I	insert text before 1st non-blank char on line
	o	open blank line for typing below
	O	open blank line for typing above
	<ESC>	quit text input mode

Useful commands

	dd	delete whole line
	J	join two lines
	x	delete char below cursor
	u	undo last change
	nG	goto line n (1G goto line 1)
	0	goto beginning of current line ("zero" not "oh"!)
	$	goto end of current line
	:wq	save changes and quit
	:q	quit
	:q!	discard changes and quit

- DOTW - :)
From: richard@serss0.fiu.edu (Albert Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: accessing 3.5 drive directly
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:50:44 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami

How do I access the 3.5 drive directly (i.e. bypass SmartPort)? Also, how
can I issue SCSI commands to the hard disk?

Albert
From: rxbrown@UALR.EDU ("MR.FANTASTIC")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RE: Solitaire corrupt
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:41:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>Subj:	Solitaire corrupt


>Whoever posted the Solitaire on cba2, it's corrupt.  There's line size errors
>in it.  Please repost.
> 
>--
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women."
>				-Quint (From "Jaws")
>		kjs39186@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Ok, I will try and upload it again.


Robert
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Academic Computing Services Lab Manager * programmers know best.
Bitnet: RXBROWN@UALR.EDU                * You know what that means homie!!!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: system software idea
From: rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (Randy)
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:31:19 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <9208130436.aa12107@generic.UUCP>, taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao) writes:

>     The VMMP (Visit Monitor/Memory Peeker) TIF does exactly that.
> Saves you the trouble of having to manually type "#" in the monitor
> each time you boot.

I got an even better setup than that. I just set the right bit in battery RAM
and they show up all the time. Thanx to Eric Mulholland. ROM 03's are so neat,
everyone should get one. So I have done homebrew BRAM mods to nuke the icons
off my boot screen and get the ROM da's to show up. Are there any other neat
BRAM tricks anyone knows about for me to try?
-- 
Randy Shackelford                       "That's right, just keep tap dancing
rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu              on the minefield"  -  Al Bundy

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sledbett@nyx.cs.du.edu (Shawn Ledbetter)
Subject: Test
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 05:07:36 GMT

Test.  This is only a test. (beep)
From: ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MS-DOS FST
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:50:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed Aug 19 92 at 19:35:17 (EST)

>> > .FLI, .GL       $005B/$0000 (animation files)
> .EPS            $00B0/$0719 (is this really an official filetype?)
> .TTF            $00C8/$0002 (since Windows 3.1 TT fonts aren't in the
>                              format as Mac/Pointless fonts)
> .VOC            $00D8/$0000 (Sound Blaster sampled sounds)

None of the above files should automatically be assigned a
corresponding Apple II filetype UNLESS THE FILE FORMAT IS 100%
COMPATIBLE WITH THE APPLE II DEFINITION OF THAT TYPE!
<<

I do know that you can play .VOC files as is in AudioZap 1.2s, though I do not
know if hat means that they are 100% compatible witany of the types.  Just my
observations. :)

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From: paw@ausom.oz.au (Peter Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Shareware Solutions
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:56:06 GMT
Reply-To: paw%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Yaaay, Joe.  Go for it!  And from the other side of the world, thanks!
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|| Doncaster  Vic ||       "On a clear disk you can seek forever!"     ||
|| Australia 3108 || "XYZZY..PLUGH..MOOF..What is that $%^& password?" ||
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Has the 2GS been dropped?
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:02:57 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <71304@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
>I am still employed by the Apple II group, not called Apple II Continuation
>Engineering.  (And No, I am not the only one.)

That should read "now called...."  Sorry.  I hate it when that happens.
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MS-DOS FST
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:08:27 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Aug18.223527.9206@fawlty.towers.oz.au> johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean) writes:
>Is $C0 $8006 now a standard file type for GIFs?
>In what tech note is this documented?

Yup!  June 1992 "About File Type Notes."

-- 
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Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Moderation: good, bad, or what...
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 10:18:16 GMT

While we're talking about moderation...I can't find the CFV for cba2
moderation in news.groups.  Haven't checked to see if it's in cba2,
but our site expires posts in binaries newsgroups after only a few
days.  Anybody care to repost it, if you have it?

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!                      Fidonet: 1:209/765
(IIe (  TEMPORARILY OFFLINE    Apple II/IBM                     GEnie: S.ALFTER
 \_^_/  Ask me about SoftDAC--digital audio for your IIe/IIc! Apple II Forever!
From: taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Seven Hills
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:19:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan) writes...
>
>I had a real problem figuring out whether or not I'd post this, but I
>think it's something that needs to be addressed.

    Glad you did.  This sort of invalidates what I said previously to
Grover Thomas about buying their software new at these prices.
Usually people will say "yeah, I legally own <insert software title>"
when in fact they've pirated it.  Now it seems people will pretend
they've pirated the software to get the discount!  This is crazy!  I
know Seven Hills needs the money, but I'm not going to buy Font
Factory, Superconvert and ShoeBox at regular price because I don't
need any of them.  I think they would rather get $48 out of me than
none at all.

>I mean, does someone who never got the article from Joe Walters pay
>the full price when he/she orders from Seven Hills?

    I wouldn't blame them if they do.  They are trying to raise cash
as quickly as possible.  Whether or not it is legally or morally
correct to charge unsuspecting customers the regular price is a
totally different matter.
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