HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zane@ddsw1.mcs.com (Sameer Parekh)
Subject: Re: a newsgroup for Whole Earth (was CoEvolution) readers
Keywords: welcome
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:40:34 GMT
X-Disclaimer:  Material posted in this article is the sole responsibility of
                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.

In article <hank.712459375@well.sf.ca.us> hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts) writes:
>
>This is a newsgroup for readers -- not officially associated with or
>set up by the staff of Whole Earth Review, but likely read by them.
>
>Claimer:  I proofread for WER.  Any mistakes found in WER or the various
>Whole Earth Catalogs in recent years are my fault.  Hank Roberts
>----------------------------------------------------hank@well.sf.ca.us
	Neat! Is the staff going to join the group anyway? So when's Fall
'92 coming out? Howard is hinting at all these really great articles, yet it
isn't out yet.  (I'm a newbie WER reader. . .I've only gotten 4 issues so
far, so I'm impatient for more.)
	Item to put in the FAQ for us newbies..What's the history? I am
GUESSING that Stuart Brand started the Whole Earth Catalog, and then he did
Co-Evolution Quarterly, and then it became WER? How'd the numbering system
go?  From CQ #43 (or whatever) to WER #44 or to WER #1. Or did WER start,
and CQ still exist, and then CQ stop after WER was in existence for a while?
	And more stuff. . anybody have back issues they wanna get rid of?
-- 
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PFA related mail to pfa@ddsw1.MCS.COM   | Specialization is for insects
Anonymous mail to ap.2363@cupid.sai.com |   - Robert A. Heinlein
Thu Jul 30 01:20:45 1992 US Debt: $4,001,820,545,051 Per capita: $15,687
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: toma@zephyr.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Atwater)
Subject: Re: TEST
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:35:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.032037.4384@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tmcintyr@nyx.cs.du.edu () writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.173450.19140@dircon.co.uk> uad1214@dircon.co.uk (Pe
>er Cox) writes:
>>Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday...
>
>Say just what is this all about...?...

I think maybe it's intended as a play on this newsgroup's name.

-- 
Tom Atwater

toma@chapman.gsfc.nasa.gov
CompuServe: 72540,1652
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
Subject: SIGNAL
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:03:00 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

My copy of SIGNAL is marked up all over the place with my own notes on
things.  Any chance of a new edition coming out any time soon?  Do you
want notes / comments / updates / etc?

I am very happy to see you guys on the net.  One of my notes (from a few
years ago) reads
     What are all these people's email addresses?
and now it looks like it's going to be possible to answer that.

thanks,

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 741 1120
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: Re: SIGNAL p138 / Mapmaking
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:32:49 GMT

From: MR A D JONES <ajones@metz.une.edu.au>
hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts):
> 
> I am also looking for info on a source for GISTutor, GISTutor II, etc,
> and for reports from users of the programs, for a possible magazine article.

GISTutor II for Mac and MS-DOS should be due out some time this autumn.  
Longmans are to be the publishers.  The contact for the author is Jonathon 
Raper at Birkbeck College in London.  I don't have an email address for him


Longman are registered in London and New York.  I don't have a US address,
but the UK one is at Longman House, Burnt Mill, Harlow, Essex, CM20 2JE, UK.

Jonathon Raper's address is Dept Of Geography, Birkbeck College,
7-15 Gresse ST, London W1P 1PA (fax +44 71 631 6577)

Yours,

Alan Jones
=============================================

MacGIS 2.0 (update of the version reviewed in WER #66 p. 120 and in
Helping Nature Heal p. 142) has just been released; contact David Hulse,
Dept. of Landscape Architecture, U. of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403-1206.
Demo disk $10; commercial and academic versions available.
-------------> I haven't seen this yet; just got the info today -- HR<------
============================================
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: tmcintyr@nyx.cs.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: TEST
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 03:20:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.173450.19140@dircon.co.uk> uad1214@dircon.co.uk (Pe
er Cox) writes:
>
>Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday...
>-- 
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Peter Cox
>uad1214@dircon.co.uk
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Say just what is this all about...?...


Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: wwalker@nyx.cs.du.edu (william walker)
Subject: anonymous ftp
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 07:22:34 GMT


I say...theres a rumor going about that The Well will allow anonymous
ftp sometime in the near future...might you care to yeah or nay anyone?

Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: Re: SIGNAL
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:05:07 GMT

In <15ae22INNmen@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:

>My copy of SIGNAL is marked up all over the place with my own notes on
>things.  Any chance of a new edition coming out any time soon?  Do you
>want notes / comments / updates / etc?
>  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
>        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 741 1120

With the caveat, again, that this is a newsgroup for and by readers, not
an official activity of Point Foundation or Whole Earth .... why sure!
Let's do it here, for now.  The office gets calls every week from people
asking for updated Signal or Whole Earth Software Catalog.  Finding the
$$ up front to do such an update is a killer; but doing it online might work!

The CD-ROM Catalog has the text of Signal in somewhat updated form (access
and typos fixed) but that's still quite out of date.
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
Subject: SIGNAL p169 / Shareware
Date: 31 Jul 1992 08:52:54 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

The '88 SIGNAL lists PC-SIG, BMUG, BCS, Shareware Magazine, and
Glossbrenner's book.

For the question of "shareware on CD-ROM", the notable efforts on the net
that I know of are Rich Morin's "Prime Time Freeware" and rab's SIMTEL20
and CICA disks.  The newsgroup is alt.cd-rom.

For current discussion and announcements of software on the net, the
newsgroups
	comp.archives
	comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
	comp.sys.mac.?			(don't recall exactly)
	comp.sys.amiga.?		(ditto)
have release notes, reviews, and access information for the major
cooperative network-based software repositories.

(need more access info on the cd-rom products)
(look up the alt.cd-rom FAQ)

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 741 1120

Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: POINT Foundation produced these books/events
Summary: 24 years and counting
Keywords: list
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:35:11 GMT

This alt.co-evolution newsgroup is for any readers/writers of these items:

 The Whole Earth Catalog (1968)
  Supplement (1969)
   The Last Whole Earth Catalog (1971)
    The Demise Party (1971)
     The Whole Earth Epilog (1974)
      CoEvolution Quarterly (1974 - 1985)
       The Whole Earth Software Review (1984 - 1985)
        The Whole Earth Software Catalog (1985)
         The Whole Earth Review (1985 - )
          Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link (1986 - )
           The Essential Whole Earth Catalog (1986)
            Signal (1987)
             The Whole Earth Learning Disc CD-ROM (1988)
              The Whole Earth Ecolog (1990)
               Helping Nature Heal (1991)
------------------------------------------------------------
Claimer: I'm a WER proofreader; this newsgroup is entirely reader-created and
not a project of Whole Earth staff.  For info on the available magazines
and Catalogs, you can email      wer@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: jef@netcom.com (Jef Poskanzer)
Subject: Re: anonymous ftp
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:38:54 GMT
Organization: Paratheo-Anametamystikhood Of Eris Esoteric
Reply-To: Jef Poskanzer <jef@netcom.com>

wwalker@nyx.cs.du.edu (william walker):
}I say...theres a rumor going about that The Well will allow anonymous
}ftp sometime in the near future...might you care to yeah or nay anyone?

Yea, that might happen.  The WELL is opening up outgoing internet
access on Saturday.  Perhaps after that they will find the time to
set up an anon area.  Filled with into on both the WELL and WER,
hopefully.
---
Jef

           Jef Poskanzer  jef@netcom.com  jef@well.sf.ca.us
                 "I told 'em we've already *got* one!"
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
Subject: SIGNAL p 90 / Backyard Satellite TV
Date: 31 Jul 1992 09:24:26 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

The active usenet discussion of this stuff is on rec.video.satellite and
is linked to the HOMESAT mailing list.  Archives live on vm1.nodak.edu.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 741 1120

Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: uad1214@dircon.co.uk (Peter Cox)
Subject: Re: TEST
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:34:50 GMT


Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday...
-- 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Peter Cox
uad1214@dircon.co.uk
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: mitchell@seas.smu.edu (Utopium Enterprizes)
Subject: Re: TEST
Organization: Utopium Enterprizes
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:29:09 GMT

Thus wrote sc7010604@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg:
>TESTING
>
Consider it tested. ;)

BTW, does this group have to do with topics such as those covered in
*Coevolution Quarterly* (aka the *Whole Earth Review*)?

-- 
Utopium Enterprizes - mitchell@seas.smu.edu
"Do not mistake my sympathy for understanding; do not accept my understanding
 as sympathy." -- St. Thomas Laine the Abbreviated
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: Request for magazines, from Czech Peace Corps volunteer
Summary: wanted: environmental info/magazines
Keywords: environmental info
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:25:23 GMT


This came into Whole Earth Review recently:

Environmental Information Urgently Needed

A Peace Corps volunteer wrote Whole Earth Review with this request:

"I am ... working as an information resources advisor to the Trnava
District office of the Slovak Commission for the Environment.  One
aspect of my job is to develop and provide environmental information
to the public.  In addition to environmental concerns the Slovaks also
have a great interest in the United States and a very strong desire
to learn English.  Up-to-date information is difficult to obtain and
much of the available information is from government or mainstream
sources.  I would like your readers to send us back issues of this
magazine, and any others they feel are particularly interesting
concerning environmentalism in its broadest sense.

"I was surprised at first just how eagerly these types of materials are
greeted, and how thoroughly and creatively they rae used.  Even sending one
or two issues will be greatly appreciated.  Mail can be sent, surface,
to me:
      Ann M. Hokanson
      Okreshny Urad Zivotneho Postredia
      Kollarova 8
      Trnava, Czechoslovakia               (address good for next 2 years)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Claimer: I proofread for WER; any mistakes in the magazine or various Catalogs
in recent years may be mine.  For info on the publications, you can email
                           wer@well.sf.ca.us
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jek@duke.cs.duke.edu (James E. Kittock)
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
Subject: Re: POINT Foundation produced these books/events
Keywords: list
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:36:08 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <hank.712470911@well.sf.ca.us> hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts) writes:
>This alt.co-evolution newsgroup is for any readers/writers of these items:

What is the significance of "co-evolution"?
-- 
James Kittock   --   Duke class of 1992    --    Computer Science/Mathematics 
jek@cs.duke.edu | mcnc!duke!jek | PO Box 5750, Duke Station, Durham, NC 27706
"Yes, I will kiss the girl from Venus for science." - They Might be Giants
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
Subject: SIGNAL p138 / Mapmaking
Date: 31 Jul 1992 09:21:32 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Two page spread (Mapmaking / Maps). 

The Map Catalog is out in a new edition (p 139).  Great book.

The usenet newsgroup "comp.infosystems.gis" (geographic information
systems) covers the field.

Cheap computing seems to have made the conclusion that mapmaking is a very
narrow and high cost art.  I would like to see reviews of the sort of
software that e.g. political campaigns use to target voters, I know there
are mapping programs out there you can dump data into and get useful
results out of but don't know just where they are sold.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 741 1120

Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: a newsgroup for Whole Earth (was CoEvolution) readers
Summary: email     wer@well.sf.ca.us    for info
Keywords: welcome
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:22:55 GMT


This is a newsgroup for readers -- not officially associated with or
set up by the staff of Whole Earth Review, but likely read by them.

Claimer:  I proofread for WER.  Any mistakes found in WER or the various
Whole Earth Catalogs in recent years are my fault.  Hank Roberts
----------------------------------------------------hank@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: The significance of "coevolution" (Q/A)
Summary: how defined?
Keywords: coevolution
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:28:37 GMT


One answer to the question "what is the significance of coevolution" --
I looked in the Ecolog (Whole Earth Catalog of ecology informatino, 1990)

Peter Warshall reviews a book titled "The Coevolution of Climate and Life"
(Schneider and Londer, 1984, 576 pp, from Sierra Club Books, 415-923-5600)

which discusses the largest-scale (that we think we know about) case of
co-evolution -- the "Gaia Hypothesis" contemplating the possibility that
Earth's climate and weather are actively interacting with life on the planet.

On the smaller scales coevolution is discussed in ecology, in a great many
instances where several different organisms evolve over time based on the
selection pressures they exert on each other.  Flowers and pollinating
insects, for one instance.
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical
From: "bob molerio" <p00035@mail.psi.net>
Subject: Sysadmin manuals or texts for SUN 
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:29:08 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.01)

Can anybody recommend a good 2nd hand or cheap source for SUN manuals 
or texts.
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From: green@rwja.umdnj.edu (Cliff Green)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Re: SHIP?
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:29:56 GMT
Followup-To: alt.msdos.programmer
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

holland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Rich Holland) writes:

>Help!  Recently, someone sent me SHIP.COM, a "new" program similar to
>UUencode/Decode, but much better.  I lost the sender's mail address,
>and unfortunately the source code as well!  All I have is the MS-DOS
>executable, and now I'd like to compile it for use on my unix box here..

You can get the source for ship along with the source for zip from most
any anonymous ftp site which has the INFO-ZIP files (zip and unzip, of
course).  You could look on any of the simtel archive sites, under
unix-c, and you might even find them in one of the comp.sources.xxx
sites (like comp.sources.misc).

c-- 
Clifford Green               Internet:   green@rwja.umdnj.edu
Academic Computing Services     voice:   908-463-4436
UMDNJ-RWJMS                       fax:   908-463-5252
#include <fineprint.h>
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: How to low level format a hard drive?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:57:51 GMT

ron@vicorp.com (Ron Peterson) writes:
>Would someone please tell me how to do a low level format on a
>harddrive under DOS3.3?  The machine is some sort of 486 I think 
>(no labels!) which we normally run Unix on but which can be booted 
>as a DOS machine (which no one here knows anything about.)  
>The drive is a Quantum 105S.  I think the drive is trashed but
>want to try a low level format to be sure.
>ron@vicorp.com or uunet!vicorp!ron
*----
Isn't that a SCSI drive?  First, you probably can't use standard
DOS functions to do anything with it.  Secondly, low-level 
formatting SCSI disks is usually not a good idea, and rarely
helpful.  Start with the diagnostics that came with your
SCSI controller.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
From: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen)
Subject: interrupt functions in TC++?
Summary: How do you read incoming registers?	 
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:23:22 GMT

   Can someone tell me how to read the register values on entry to a function
declared interrupt?  I seem to recall that it IS possible, but I can't figure
out how.

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________________
| Michael Chen			| From the depths of our most lucid horrors |
|				| spring our fond hopes and pure desires... |
| mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu	| except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92  |
From: dxc@netcom.com (Dixie Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: editor code in pascal
Summary: need line editor code in pascal
Keywords: pascal code,line editor
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:59:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


Does anyone have Pascal source code for a line editor similar to
edlin (MSDOS).  Would appreciate a reply. /dc
From: c3q@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: IRQs, inteerupts, and the 8259
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:54:35 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University


For a given IRQ (n) either hard-wired or set on a board, the corresponding
interrupt is n+8.  The 8259 interrupt mask is 0..010..0 (8 bits) with the "1"
located in bit n.

EX:	IRQ: 3
	Int: # 0Bh = 11 decimal
	mask: 00001000b

For more information, see Ray Duncan's _Advanced MS-DOS Programming_
                      
- Travis J.I. Corcoran


Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
From: amead@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Alan Mead)
Subject: Re: text modes
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:20:28 GMT

linkt@GroupW.cns.vt.edu (Tim Link) writes:

>In article <1992Jul26.134202.12205@news.cs.brandeis.edu> dernis@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>>
>>I am interested in using text modes 0-3 with an alternate character
>>set.
>>
>Mitch...

>[...]

>Rather than try to explain how to load the fonts I've written a short Turbo

>Hope this helps!

>Program ScreenFont;
>[...]

Via private mail I also send much the same info as you did (my TP code
was from the book _Stretching Turbo Pascal : Version 5.5_ by Ken Porter
and Mike Floyd.

So while I have code, I can't say I understand the process.  Also,
STP:v55 mentions looking at a book by Wilton but never gives a
reference (I think Porter died, leaving an unfinished manuscript).

So I, for one, would appreciate an explanation if you care to do so.  Other
video modes would also be interesting.  just what can you do with the system
fonts in DOS.

Thanks.

-alan mead
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From: kc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Kenneth Cameron)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: How do I get a the memory above 1M ?
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:07:05 GMT
Reply-To: kc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Kenneth Cameron)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

Whats the cleanest way to get at the memory above the 1Meg mark,given the
following conditions ?

The application has to run under MS-DOS, on a 486dx. In other words it
has to be in real mode most of the time.
I'd like to be able to get at it from within an iterrupt routine
running at 8KHz. (Although not essential, access from within the main
program would do).
I'm working with Borland C++ 3.1.
I don't want to use a DOS extender like Phar Laps.

I had thought of writing a peek and poke function using 32bit registers but
that generates an int 13h on accesses outwith the megabyte range.
At the moment I'm considering changing the memory management set up to map
the extra into the bottom megabyte block at a time (although more than
the 64k that expanded memory provides). This looks like it requires a
change of mode and back.

This is for some control software I'm writting that has to drive 125 analogue
channels at 16Hz and sample 512 channels at 16Hz. All with a single ADC and
DAC. As well as record the samples to disk and maitain a WIMP interface.
(I need to buffer the drive channels in memory, because reading and writing
at these rates is very hard. But there can be megabytes of the stuff).

Any suggestions ? Anyone ?

,Kenneth Cameron.

--
Kenneth@Edinburgh
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