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From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: BUSH/QUAYLE Signs still up!
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:58:35 GMT

gmc@helix.nih.gov (Gordon M. Charrick) writes:

>gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:
>: purtilo@cs.umd.edu (Jim Purtilo) writes:
>: 
>: 
>: >Bush/Quayle signs still up?  Just getting a start in '96, I hope ....
>: 
>: The Deomcrate would love to hear that.  Bush is poison in the Rep. Party now.
>: I think they will run Jack Kemp in '96.
>: 
>Nah, I think they should run Buchanan, or better yet, Pat Robertson. It
>would be much more entertaining!

Do I hear Robertson/Quayle?

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From: brown@psi.com (Kimberly Brown)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: PSILink Wireless Messaging Seminars
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:23:30 GMT
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From: dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Values (Re: Protest)
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:50:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.180756.28988@clsi.COM> kevin@clsi.com writes:
>
>The inability to do anything about a problem because "it will cost too much" will
>eventually destroy this society.
>
>Kev.
>--
>Care & Share
>-- 


The inability to exercise fiscal responsibility in the solution of
public issues will also have a chance to destroy this society.  If
you look at the current shape of the nation, I suspect that this 
one has a head start on the "it will cost too much" threat.

The lesson might simply be that either extreme has severe danger 
associated with it, and that a middle path is needed, which will 
take into account the facts that 1) we have to work within our 
means, and 2) that we are human, and thus human suffering is not 
acceptable, thus 3) we better spend our time and resources on 
projects which will do real good.  

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From: avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie)
Subject: Re: homeowners insurance
Reply-To: avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie)
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:52:32 GMT

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everything (except life!), and found that them efficient, prompt, and fair.  
Furthermore, their rates were the lowest I could find following several 
quotations.

Louis



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From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: BUSH/QUAYLE Signs still up!
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:06:53 GMT

jbasara@ssdc.UUCP (Jim Basara) writes:

>: 
>:  P.S   Until you count all the signs in the country for this election, 
>:        as well as all the signs left up the last time a Democrat LOST
>:        an election..... All of this sign counting is irrelevent. The
>:        original posting was an inference to Republicans beeing un-
>:        concerned with the environment by not "cleaning up their mess"
>:        and therefore bad. These are the same tactics used by the media
>:        to sway non-analytic minds into believing the economy was so terrible.
>:        

>While surrounded in paranoia, this is actually true.  Why, because signs of
>the winning party make better memorabilia.  Knowing many people who were
>responsible for putting up Clinton/Gore signs, I could find none of them who
>went back out to take them down.  They all tell me that it was the 
>souvenir hunters.

>Just an unbiased observation.

An observation I am more than willing to beleive.  Maybe both parties should
look to cleanup their signs (some of which are still up) and budget it in to
their spending.
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From: mproctor@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Marilyn Proctor)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: BUSH/QUAYLE Signs still up!
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:26:10 GMT
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
X-Organization: (formerly David Taylor Research Center)

To those of you taking down the signs in your communities, Thank You!!

>al@escom.com (Al Donaldson) writes:
>>I did find it interesting where I voted that one party was handing out
>>"sample ballots" marked with with their candidates' names.  Most people
>>looked at them and threw them away.  Wotta waste of paper for a party
>>so concerned about ecology...

At my polling place in Arlington County, there was a box by the exit
door marked "please recycle sample ballots here".  
Sometimes the simpliest solution is the best solution.  
Of course, Arlington's county board is run by the D party  :-) 

gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:
>Interesting point.  I also threw away a sample ballot, from a party, but I did
>use it.  I had them tell me which candidates were encumbant, and voted against
>them, and for the challengers.
I didn't take the sample ballot from either party (I had my notes with me) 
It would be helpful if more recycling areas offered paper recycling
(besides newspaper), so that we can more fully participate in recycling.

BTW,  to whomever it was who asked about representation.
Your Virginia Senators to U.S. Congress are Chuck Robb (D) and
John Warner (R).  As you know, they both represent the entire state.
John Warner lives in Middleburg, I'm not sure where Chuck Robb lives
now, but he used to live in McLean.
Your state delegates depend on what district you live in, call your country 
court house. They can assist you.

To those who voted, whatever candidate, whatever (if any) party, be
proud that you participated in the PROCESS.  (If only all those people
would show up for EVERY election, maybe we could affect true change).
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Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Local BBS
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:03:32 GMT
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From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Subject: Re: Protest
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:27:04 GMT

kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.193945.6720@socrates.umd.edu>, ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman) writes:
>> 
>> In general, I feel that the current criminal problems the US suffers
>> is caused more by a general lack of accountability than anything else.

>Maybe it is caused by high levels of unemployment, poverty and poor education.

>Who is accountable for that ? - maybe the voters ?

Good point!  Yes, unemployment, poverty and poor education are
certainly major factors.  My point was more along the lines that if
no-one takes responsibility for hir actions, how can we expect others
to do it?

For the longest time, we have seen government officials ignore their
constituents.  Many of the very agencies whose missions are to help
disadvantaged (HHS, HUD) have been plagued by scandals.  The school
boards, maybe particularly in DC, seem more concerned with its
employees than the students.  We, as voters, don't hold obviously
incompetent officials responsible, but keep re-electing them.

This isn't really just a DC issue; we see it everywhere; in federal
and local government, in private companies.  If someone is caught
lying through his teeth, hir standard response seems to be "So I lied"
and no-one makes a big deal out of it.

Given this, it's unsurprising that crime is as bad as it is; no-one
seems to *care* for the situation in the inner cities, particularly
not those whose job it is to work on improving the situation.
From: toma@hyperion.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Atwater)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: From Balt/Wash Pkway to I-395 ????
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:22:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Code 916, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

>>In article <By102r.1I5@scholia.wbme.jhu.edu> tratnana@lander.wbme.jhu.edu (Tilak Ratnanather) writes:
>>>Twice I have driven down to Washington DC from Baltimore
>>>on the Balt/Wash Parkway and attempted to get to I-395 to
>>>get to National Airport and failed. It seems that there is
>>>ONLY one exit to Pennsylvania Avenue and thats going EAST
>>>not WEST; further down I have never been able to find the
>>>signposts to I-395 in contrast to the indiactions on the
>>>usual maps which suggest that there is an exit....

In article <hunt.722385213@shy.umd.edu> hunt@shy.umd.edu (Brian Hunt) writes:
>I wonder if my
>way is slower or faster:  I exit onto Pennsylvania Ave. East and
>somehow turn around, head over the bridge and exit onto the SE-SW
>freeway (I don't think it's called 395 at that point).  Problem is, I
>generally lose a few minutes since I haven't yet found a very good way
>to legally get turned around on Pennsylvania Ave.  I suspect one wants
>to make the first legal left and then make a U-turn or go around the
>block...
>

I believe this is the fastest way.
After heading east on Pa. Ave., turn left at Minnesota, then immediately
left on the 1st side street, then another left to the alley between
the liquor store, to another right on Pa. Ave. west, which brings you
out at the light at the Kenilwoth entrance again.
The SE/SW freeway is then straight ahead and right on the other side
of the Sousa bridge. Cross the Potomac and follow signs to National.

>It looks like you can do this in reverse a lot easier now, there is a
>left turn from Pennsylvania Ave. East to DC 295 (Anacostia/Kenilworth
>freeway) North.

This is correct. This new left turn lane has been open about a year now.
Be warned that DC police are often set up to catch people making the
illegal U-turn On Pa. ave from going east to going west.
(There was even a thing on the TV news about how many people were
ignoring this -- so naturally the cops are now out in force.)


Does anyone know
(a) why a ramp from Kenilworth south to Pa. Ave. west has never been
built?
(b) why U-turns are not allowed at the new left turn from Pa. east
to Kenilworth north?

I see that the Howard road exit is open again, but have not used
this in many years, and don't remember where it goes.
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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Re: BUSH/QUAYLE Signs still up!
Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:45:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.163905.29342@openage.openage.com> gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:
>purtilo@cs.umd.edu (Jim Purtilo) writes:
>>Bush/Quayle signs still up?  Just getting a start in '96, I hope ....
>
>The Deomcrate would love to hear that.  Bush is poison in the Rep. Party now.
>I think they will run Jack Kemp in '96.

What?  You mean Dan Quayle won't run?!  Aww drat!  I'm goinge to misse alle
those Quayle jokese!!  :-)

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From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: BUSH/QUAYLE Signs still up!
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:34:16 GMT

al@escom.com (Al Donaldson) writes:

>Isn't it the case that "Winner takes All?" :-)

>But you do have a good point.. Why don't we each take some time this weekend 
>to clear remaining signs for a few blocks around where we each live (or 
>miles if you're energetic and really motivated to clean up the planet).  
>I'll do Waples Mill Road tomorrow, and take down all the political signs 
>I find, regardless of politics.

OK. I'll clean up the intersection of Quaker Ln. and King St.  I will also make
a point to try and stop to clean up signs where I see them, and dispose of the
properly.

Good Suggestion.

>Yes, I voted for President Bush.  I didn't put up any signs, but I sure
>can take some down.  

>Al

>I did find it interesting where I voted that one party was handing out
>"sample ballots" marked with with their candidates' names.  Most people
>looked at them and threw them away.  Wotta waste of paper for a party
>so concerned about ecology...

Interesting point.  I also threw away a sample ballot, from a party, but I did
use it.  I had them tell me which candidates were encumbant, and voted against
them, and for the challengers.

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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Protest
Organization: UDSI
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:37:33 GMT

In article <Bxzst3.n4n@access.digex.com> dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey) writes:
>In article <foo.042759.7655@hfsi.uucp> ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO) writes:
>>
>>I think that there are two issues here that are being confused.
>>The first is placing a monetary value on life so that one may make
>>a decision on whether to *actively* kill that person.  That is, if
>>a certain monetary value is not met, then the person is executed
>>or killed.  The other is placing a monetary value on expenditures
>>necessary to *prevent* a human death.  This is placing a monetary
>>value in the passive sense.  I maintain that the two situations
>>are different and should not be mixed.  Although we quite
>>frquently do the latter, I don't believe that we have ever had a
>>policy of doing the former.  Perhaps you have an example of the
>>former being done? 
>


I would say the former is done fairly regularly.  ask anyone who doesnt have
health insurance and needs to see a doctor.  it's not direct, but htye
can get killed just as easily as if you pull a trigger.
From: news@fedfil.UUCP (news)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: DC area internet connections?
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:19:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HTE

I'd be glad to hear any suggestions for DC area internet connections,
and would appreciate any help anybody could give.


-- 
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From: gmc@helix.nih.gov (Gordon M. Charrick)
Subject: Re: Wanted.. Unix staff
Organization: National Institutes of Health
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:30:11 GMT

jsircar@eng.umd.edu (Jayanta Sircar) writes:
: 
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: 
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: submit application with resume and names of three professional

Damn. That's a heck of a long delay in getting that posted! :-)

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From: stuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Pearlman)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: From Balt/Wash Pkway to I-395 ????
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:51:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
X-Organization: (formerly David Taylor Research Center)

In article <hunt.722385213@shy.umd.edu> hunt@shy.umd.edu (Brian Hunt) writes:
>williamf@umbc5.umbc.edu (TheBigBopper) writes:
>>In article <By102r.1I5@scholia.wbme.jhu.edu> tratnana@lander.wbme.jhu.edu (Tilak Ratnanather) writes:
>Hmm, I've tried to do this in a hurry a couple times, I wonder if my
>way is slower or faster:  I exit onto Pennsylvania Ave. East and
>somehow turn around, head over the bridge and exit onto the SE-SW
>freeway (I don't think it's called 395 at that point).  

I think a better way is, when heading south on 295, to get off at the
Suitland Parkway exit and go around the clover leaf so that you get
back on 295 heading north.  Not far north of the Suitland Parkway ramp
on 295 northbound is an exit for 395.  Unfortunately, there is no
corresponding exit for 295 southbound.

-stuart
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From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO)
Subject: Re: Protest
Organization: HFS, Inc., McLean VA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:27:59 GMT

In article <BxwBMH.5J6@access.digex.com> dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.042407.27816@hfsi.uucp> ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO) writes:
>>In article <Bxqxpx.6D@access.digex.com> dougnews@access.digex.com
>>(Doug Humphrey) writes:
>>>
>>>The safety of the population is *directly* tied to the issue of dollars.
>>>
>>>>I guess we as a society are going to have to decide whether we
>>>>value all human life, or just certain ones.  If the answer is all
>>>>human life, then the economic argument becomes irrelevant. 
>>>
>>>This is simply not true, and can not be demonstrated.  You can not
>>>
>>>Doug
>>>
>>
>>Well, I guess in your mind you've made the decision that human
>>life boils down to a matter of economics.  
>
>Really?  I don't think that I said that.  Perhaps that is how 
>you understood it though.  I do mean that it is not possible,
>in the administration of public policy and the operations of
>the government in its quest to serve the people, to divorce 
>any subject completely from the concept of how you are going 
>to pay for it.  Is that any clearer?

I think that there are two issues here that are being confused.
The first is placing a monetary value on life so that one may make
a decision on whether to *actively* kill that person.  That is, if
a certain monetary value is not met, then the person is executed
or killed.  The other is placing a monetary value on expenditures
necessary to *prevent* a human death.  This is placing a monetary
value in the passive sense.  I maintain that the two situations
are different and should not be mixed.  Although we quite
frquently do the latter, I don't believe that we have ever had a
policy of doing the former.  Perhaps you have an example of the
former being done? 

>>Perhaps in addition, each crime a person
>>commits should have a positive or negative value to it?  If the
>>person's net value of a person's life doesn't equal the cost of
>>keeping them in prison for an average life expectance, then we
>>kill them? Is this what you are advocating?
>
>No.  I don't think that I said any such thing.
>
>>If so, what about a
>>poor person who is on welfare for a good portion of their life.
>>Perhaps, they will never substantially contribute to society
>>anything, and indeed will take from it more than they contribute.
>>Should we stop all their benefits so that they will die?  After
>>all, we could spend that money in more productive ways.
>
>Doesn't sound like a very reasonable to me, but it is your
>idea, not mine.

But it could be the end result of people's lives are reduced to merely
money.

>Doug Humphrey    Express Access Public Access Internet   Voice (301) 220-2020

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From: dlucy@sandr.COM (Doug Lucy)
Subject: Re: Wanted.. Unix staff
Organization: S&R Software, Inc.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:23:34 GMT

Um, count me out. I want nothing to do with a eunuch's staph.

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From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: Re: Cat Boarding wanted.  Motgomery county or NorthWest DC.
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA
Distribution: dc
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:19:57 GMT

In article <Bxz35I.HIx@access.digex.com> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
>
>A friend of mine needs to board her two cats for 2 weeks.
>
>anyone know of a good place?  she is going on her honeymoon.  
>
There are various pet sitting services around the area, where they come
to your house daily to feed your pet, clean litter boxes, play with kitty
and in general give a lived in appearance to your house. I have used 
them before and they are very wonderful. The one I use (can't remember
her name) is in N. Va., but there are others around town. Just check
the phone book or ask at pet shops. They generally charge about $10 
per day, and they are licensed. This is much better for your cat to
stay in a place where it is comfortable (home), and doesn't have to spend
2 weeks locked in a small cage. Hobbit and Tribble couldn't agree more.

Steve

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