HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: SunCat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: archive site for Frontier stuff?
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:55:16 GMT
Reply-To: kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu.edu
Organization: Money Sucking University

In article <1992Apr13.175424.8531@news.Hawaii.Edu>
dfrick@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Doug Frick) writes:
>I'm posting the following in hopes that someone out in Netland is
>interested in supporting an archive site for Frontier-related
>stuff. It is a pretty cool application, and allows all us Mac
>techies to script our environments. 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>From: EL.GRANDE@AppleLink.Apple.COM (UserLand SW, David Winer,PRT)
>
>Doug:
> 
>We're not on the Internet at all. If you know anyone who might want to act as
a
>pipeline for demo scripts, toolkits and install files, we'd love to open the
>channel.
> 
>Is there some place you could re-post this message? We're looking for someone
>with both an Internet and an AppleLink or CompuServe account.
> 
>This question comes up all the time and we'd really like to get in the loop.
>Getting educated on Internet culture isn't an option for us right now, we're
>overloaded with supporting AppleLink and CompuServe. That may change, but not
>in the next few months...
> 
>DW
>--
>Doug Frick
>dfrick@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu
>
A good practice.  a suggestion.  Many or most will not know what "Frontier"
means--I take it is not the Electronic Frontier Foundation  (ftp> ftp.eff.org)

SunCat (kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu)
From: jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Comp USA dropping PowerBook 100?
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:44:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <1992Apr3.200335.14202@chinet.chi.il.us> koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz) writes:
>I was pricing PowerBooks the other day for a client, and decided to call the
>local CompUSA 'Superstore' for a price.  When I asked the salesman about the
>PB100, I was told "it's been discontinued".  Hmmm. 
>
>My first guess is that Comp USA is stopping sales of the model due to low
>demand, but is there something going on that is not public?  How have sales
>of the 100 compared to the 140/170?  The latest MacWorld has a survey of PB
>owners, and the 100 rates significantly lower in the positive satisfaction
>ratings than the others (for good reason, IMHO).

I read a MacWeek article several issues ago that said that PB 100 sales
accounted for only several percent of PB orders--the PB 140 and PB 170
accounted for over 90% (sorry, don't remember _exact_ numbers).

I am sure this is why Apple has been dropping the PB 100 price ever since
it came out.

I don't think Apple is planning to drop it from the line, but I wouldn't be 
surprised to see the price continue to drop.

Jay Boisseau
Astronomy Dept.
UT-Austin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: warren@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Warren DeLano)
Subject: Re: DeskWriter...Serial or AppleTalk better?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:37:05 GMT

In article <21480016@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>,... writes:
> 
> I don't believe HP manufactures the serial DeskWriter anymore.
> If you buy one, you will be buying a model that has been out of
> production for more than a year.

All DeskWriters supports both serial and Appletalk connections.

The early DeskWriters had a bug in the mechanism for detecting the
presence of an appletalk connection. This tended to burn out some chip
in the Mac, but that problem was fixed some time ago.  If you have an
old DeskWriter, you should use Appletalk.  Otherwise, the choice is yours.

Warren
warren@laplace.biology.yale.edu
From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: WriteNow 3.0 and assembly language
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:53:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <scott.702673933@mcl>, scott@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Scott Bronson) writes:
> In <5423.29d9c483@hayes.com> bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) writes:
> 
>>Since the original program took about 2 CPU-*DAYS* to run on a larger computer,
>>it was important to make the program run as fast as possible. The final
>>high-level version ran the same data correctly in 15 CPU-minutes. The author
>>also identified several possible avenues for further improvement. The same
>>could not be said of the final assembly version.
> 
> There is one solid fact that was muddied in the above paragraph.  Assembly
> will *always* run at least as fast as the high level language.  Usually
> if you use the same alogrithm as the HLL, assembly will run around twice
> as fast, simply because you don't perform all the redundant operations.

WRONG! You didn't read my original posting very closely, did you? The fact was,
spending 2 weeks re-writing the original program with improved algorithms in
a high-level language was MORE beneficial than spending 2 weeks writing the
original in assembly. Indeed, by the time the improved high-level version
was completed, there was NO LONGER ANY NEED for assembly.

> The 680x0 was designed for the assembly language programmer.  It's assembly
> is among the cleanest for humans to write, but not so friendly for compilers.

I find this a complete contradiction. What is easy for humans must be easy
for compilers, because the compilers are written by humans.

> Thus, I find that coding up to 40% of your program in assembly is not
> unrealistic and doesn't add too much time do the development process.  It
> does cut drastically (for me) from the debugging process, because you know
> once a routine is wired, it is *wired*.  You just don't have the control
> over a high level language to achieve this confidence.

Perhaps this works on one-man projects for your own use. This won't cut it
in the "real world" where several people are working on the same code. If
anything, I've found assembly code to be MORE error-prone than high-level
language code. 

> This is a good point, though.  It's easy to lose sight of this.  The
> algorithm means so much more than the language it is compiled in.

And re-coding algorithms is tons easier in a high-level language than in
assembly. QED.

-- 
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Principal Software Engineer        ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
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Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.
From: unruley@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Kriss Boyce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: internal speaker in a IIsi problem...
Date: 11 Apr 92 21:47:59 GMT


i have a mac IIsi and almost every time i use it with a program tha makes 
noise (from beeps to music to sounds) the speaker randomly stopps working...
i recantly discovered that if i go to the control panel and change the speaker
volume to something higher (i like it at 1) and then put it back then it usually
works again, but this is a pain...any ideas?? (i use system 6.0.7)
thanks!
kriss
unru;ley@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu
(no semicolin...unruley@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
From: walsteyn@fys.ruu.nl (Fred Walsteijn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: printing adobe illustrator files on a laserwriter via a unix mainframe
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:34:26 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht,  The Netherlands

In <1992Apr13.195311.25538@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> dgoldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Robert Goldman) writes:

>I had to do this about 9 months ago, so this may or may not work, depending on
>how well my memory serves.  Illustrator files don't use the showpage command,

??? There is a showpage in the %%PageTrailer of
Adobe Illustrator-3 files.

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From: patterso@ERL.MIT.EDU (Richard Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: printing adobe illustrator files on a laserwriter via a unix mainframe
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:47:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr13.184754.26672
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology


Maybe some kind sole can help me.
I have some figures that I created on Adobe Illustrator1.8.3.
I downloaded these files to a mainframe running Ultrix.
When I try to print these files with the command that I normally use
to print postcript files on this mainframe I get nothing.
Do I have to alter The Illustrator files in some way so that I can
get it printed on a laserprinter accessible to this Ultrix mainframe.
Thanks in advance, richard sven.
Please e-mail:patterso@erl.mit.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: florian@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Chris Florian)
Subject: Mac Problems
Originator: florian@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: UW-Milwaukee: Computing Services Division
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:52:32 GMT

	Okay, don't laugh...

	I have a mac, model: M0001W (That's a first generation Mac
	expanded to 512k.)  

	The problem I am having is that I keep getting System Error
	ID=2 and ID=3.  This may just be because the mac I have is
	just not capable of running the programs I ask of it.  But
	the programs I am trying are old enough that they should run.
	Even the ones that came with the mac often crash, for example
	Microsoft Multiplan.  Any Ideas?

	Secondly,  I have been having a real problem getting a
	communication package to work on this thing?  I had heard that
	there are some non-standard pin configurations on the original
	macs' modem connection.  If anyone knows of a program that
	would work on this mac, and where to find it, please let me
	know.

	My wife and I received it as a gift, and it IS better
	than a typewriter, and some games do work, so...

	Just remember what your mother told you, "If you haven't got
	something nice to say, SHUT UP!"
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Novell from PC Server
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:18:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: chaos.bill.702861501
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

iadmr@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:

>Is anyone out there running Novell 3.x on both Mac (ethernet) and PC ethernet
>systems?  We've been given a grant to upgrade our macs from SEs to IIsi's and
>don't have enough to get a quadra server.

>We're considering running novell from our 486/33 server that will only run 10
>other 486/33s.  

>QUESTIONS
>---------
>1. Is it cost-effective to forget the separate quadra server and use the 486/33
>to serve both 10 486/33 PCs and 10 IIsi's?

>2. Will installation of this require a masters in computer science from MIT. 
>Sorry, but we're just "users" here at MSU.

>3. What about the performace compared to a Quadra running Appleshare 3.0 on
>Appletalk?

macworld (macuser?) did a comparison of an fx to a 386 server ~4 - 5
months ago. at that time with those revisions of software the pc
performance degraded _far_ slower than the fx w/appleshare.
that means that the novell/pc did a better job for more users for
less $$$ than the fx with appleshare. it's a long article and they
did a good job. there were tradeoffs. novell costs $$$$$$$$
but 1 server lasted past multiple fx's for a large # of users.

ps this was just pre quadra.

--
bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:9012 comp.sys.mac.system:7067
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Which Mac-II : II-si or II-ci ?
From: joh@valhalla.cs.wright.edu (Jae Chan Oh)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:12:36 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

I have an PC-AT and it is time for me to upgrade my system. I'm
thinking about switching to Mac.
I am trying to decide which Mac I should buy: MacII-ci or MacII-si?

I need advices based on experiences on these machines.
Is MacII-ci worth of the money? Would I feel the real difference on speed 
of the machines?  What are the possible advantages of using MacII-ci over
MacII-si rather than speed of the machines?
How important in Mac world using a color monitor?
I'm planning to run Mathematica and several compilers for programming languages
on my new machine.

One more question: Do Macintoshes have the similar problem as in DOS's 640K 
memory barrier? I'm tired of having the "out of memory error" even though 
I have 3Meg of main memory in my AT. (That EMS, EEMS , XMS stuff aren't quite
working for my older programs!! and my program developments)

Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanks !!
-- 
Jae Chan Oh (Rm. 109, Computer Sci. Dept.)              | 
Wright State University Research Building               | Only belongs
3171 Research Blvd., Kettering, Ohio 45420              | to me... 
CSNET: joh@CS.wright.EDU   UUCP: ...!osu-cis!wright!joh | 
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:9005 comp.sys.mac.system:7063
From: vaps0de@prism.gatech.EDU (Dustin Emhart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Paring down System 7
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:50:27 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Apr11.193048.23183@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> hlsw_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dave Hollinsworth) writes:

>3.  While browsing through the STRs (or was it STR#s ?), I came across a string
>that was a sentence containing all of the letters of the alphabet.  (I'm not
>sure of the exact wording, but it contained "piqued" and "gymnast.")  I'm
>just curious:  where does this sentence show up, if ever?

If you double-click on a font, it will display a sample of the font. That
sentence is the sample sentence it displays.
-- 
Dustin Emhart
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!vaps0de
Internet: vaps0de@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: brians@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Brian J Smith)
Subject: GreyScale screen suggestions for SE30?, also grey scanner
Summary: looking for some hardware recommnendation
Keywords: grey scale, SE30
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:10:41 GMT


I have an SE30 which I use mainly for DTP. It is pretty hard to go back to
that wee screen after using a big RasterOps at work on an Fx.

I wold like to get some advice on Grey Scale external screen options for the
SE30. I had an Emachines mono 19" but it was only available for the se, they
made no SE30 card for it. This saddened me and it (the screen) is sitting in
the garage unused until I find a solution for it.

I would like a portrait Grey Scale for the Se30. Someone mentioned that the
Apple model is the real gem for this application. Any comments? What's a
bargain? What kind of advice can you give? Will I need accelleration on the
card?

Another question, about a handheld Logitech grey scale scanner. The PC model
supports 256 grey levels while the Mac model only serves up 32 levels. Will
the 256 level Logitech (or other brand) be relesed soon?

please eMail response to brians@extro.ucc.su.oz.au

thanks
From: geraci@cs.tulane.edu (Bart J. Geraci)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Need help with DeskPict
Keywords: DeskPict, background picture
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:50:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane University, New Orleans, LA

[MacLine Fodder]

I've downloaded a copy of DeskPict. I found that it was an Extension and
 I've put it in the Extensions folder in the System folder. I assume that
 I can just create a picture file using MacPaint, SuperPaint, etc. But
 how do I get DeskPict to get the right file to display as the background
 picture instead of the stipple pattern? (I couldn't find documentation).
I'm running System 7 with TuneUp 1.1 on a MacPlus. I also have ResEdit.

Please respond via email.

Many thanks in advance for your assistance.
-- 
*   -bj-                                Usenet:[{ames,bionet}!]rex!geraci   *
*   bart j. geraci               Internet/Bitnet:geraci@cs.tulane.edu       *
*            Writing stories for computers and humans since 1979.           *
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*   bart j. geraci               Internet/Bitnet:geraci@cs.tulane.edu       *
*            Writing stories for computers and humans since 1979.           *
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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: *** Apple releases Macintosh Caffeine Manager
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:28:25 GMT
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck
In-reply-to: bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU's message of 2 Apr 92 02:31:33 GMT

What I want to know is, can I use Apple's Caffeine Manager with my
Macintosh PowerCook?

Nick.
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From: Kip.Kippley@macnet.omahug.org (Kip Kippley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: RE: The best CD-ROM-based encyclopedia is...
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:59:45 CST
Reply-To: kip.kippley@macnet.omahug.org
Organization: Macnet Omaha
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc

COMPTON'S encyclopedia is due to be released on the Mac side this Spring. They 
said April and it is April so your guess is as good as mine. It seems to be
geared more for elementary than high school/adult though.


                     ** Kip **

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rfischer@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ray Fischer)
Subject: Re: WriteNow 3.0 and assembly language
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:48:05 GMT

scott@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Scott Bronson) writes ...
>How much programming experience have you had??  I said that assembly
>will always run at least as fast" and you retort WRONG!?  The Macintosh
>does not use a CPU that interprets a high level language, so assembly
>WILL ALWAYS RUN AT LEAST AS FAST.  I really don't think I can explain it
>any better than that.

This is a blanket statement, and as such is probably wrong.  Assembly
language is only as good as the person that uses it.  Furthermore, 
new processors designed specifically for compilers will be increasingly 
difficult for people to program well.  As an example, consider a 
hypothetical super-scalar processor that can execute two integer,
two floating-point, and one memory instruction per cycle.  Further,
an integer result is available in the register in two cycles, a 
floating-point result in 5 cycles, and a memory read result is availble
in the register in 6 cycles.  Condition codes take three cycles and
conditional branches have two delay slots.  Now, imagine trying to
code optimal assembler while keeping track of all these latencies 
and coming up with fast code.  In this arena a compiler's code scheduling
will probably be better than most people's.

Ray
rfischer@cs.stanford.edu
From: dowling@hubcap.clemson.edu (william a dowling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Apple loses MS lawsuit?
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:53:54 GMT
Organization: Clemson University

hauer@field.ecn.purdue.edu (Corey Hauer) writes:

>I just saw on CNN that Microsloth stock is up 9 points after the judge
>dismissed "most" charges yesterday in the look and feel suit.  What is the whole
>story here?  Which charges were dismissed.

>Arggh!  I had wonderful visions of Billy boy cutting a check for 5 billion :(.

>-Corey

	At 1:45 the rise had reached 12 points.
-- 
no stupid message, just who I be
Drew Dowling                        CLEMSON UNIVERSITY 
dowling@hubcap.clemson.edu                  SC
From: ace@tidbits.halcyon.com (Adam C. Engst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: TidBITS#117/Nisus_Features posted to c.s.m.digest
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:56:27 GMT
Reply-To: ace@tidbits.halcyon.com (Adam C. Engst)
Organization: TidBITS

TidBITS#117/Nisus_Features
==========================
 
 The 2nd part of our three-part review of Nisus.
  
Topics:
    Rulers and Styles - I
    Rulers and Styles - II
    Rulers and Styles - III
    Find/Replace
    Macros and Programming
    Broken Bells and Feeble Whistles
 
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-117.hqx; 30K]

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From: feinberg@acsu.buffalo.edu (John A. Feinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: NetBunny location
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:58:04 GMT
Organization: UB

While I was looking for 'Bobs init', I ran across a copy of NetBunny version
2.5 at an archive site.  A lot of people wanted it before, so I am posting its
location.  It is at mac.archive.umich.edu and the directory it is in is:
/mac/system.extensions/init

I hope the people that asked me about it before see this post!

John Feinberg
SUNY Buffalo
From: jsbr+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Hamilton Slye)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: DiskLight
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:20:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>It does not work with Salient's delightful DiskDoubler and may cause
>many problems that you can't otherwise blame on anything.

I have not seen any problems with DD.



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