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From: csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: Missing Scene in Star Wars
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 23:27:41 GMT

>   How about that scene from Star Wars where Jabba the Hutt shows up at the 
>dock where the falcon is and tries to get his money from Han, btw, Jabba in 
>this scene is a HUMAN, kind of a fat one too! I've seen it twice ever in my
>life, and can't remember where. 

The human Jabba was a stand-in.  F/X was to superimpose a more fantastic
Jabba on him later.  The effect didn't work, so the scene was cut.
-- 
Craig E. Smith                                       csmith@onetouch.COM
Columbus, OH                                       orson@bluemoon.rn.com
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From: masanag@athena.mit.edu (Masahiko Nagamiya)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:53:58 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr15.202014.11075@socrates.umd.edu> john@socrates.umd.edu (John VanAntwerp) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.142347.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>>I just wanted to have the thrill of posting to the new news-group!
>>
>>Let's see...Star Wars...hmmmmmmmm...well let me say that Harrison Ford is 
>>my favorite adventure actor of all time, and _Star Wars_ is what really
>>launched his career (I mean how many people *really* saw _The Frisco Kid_ 
>>and _Force Ten From Navarrone_ in the theater?)  That's all for now...
>
>Harrison Ford's career got "launched" by "American Grafitti", several years
>before "Star Wars" came out.
>

How about Ron Howard and Richard Dreyfus? They were in "American Grafitti"...

-Masa
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From: zelek@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Zelek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Figure/Toy Prices.
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:22:37 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University


   How can someone obtain an at least fairly accurate price guide for
the various Kenner figures/sets/etc that came out from '77-'83 or so?
Is the "OFFICIAL Price Guide" series the only available guide?

Chris [zelek@aramis.rutgers.edu]
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From: bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau)
Subject: Re: Idea of the Force (was Re: I'll get you, Luke..)
Reply-To: bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 23:23:04 GMT



>In article <1992Apr15.233510.24368@athena.mit.edu> pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip) writes:
>>BTW I've read some comments that "the force" was derived from the "mystic"
>>oriental philosophy and religion. Anybody wants to confirm this, or wants
>>to disprove it?"
>>
Yup, sure sounds like it to me.  I remember when I started learning
Aikido, and a lot of it was feeling and channeling your "ki," as in
aikido (The way of harmony with ki) or the famous karate kiai.  Ki
in martial arts philosophy, put simply, is the stuff the universe
is made of which binds us together.  Sound familiar?

-- Gil
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From: csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS? (1st post?)
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:00:51 GMT

>I distinclty remember a scene
>in which Luke is talking to his friend about the Space Academy or some such
>thing, but when I saw the movie again, several months later, and rented it
>on video cassette that scene was not there. I used to own a comic book 
>version of the movie that we bought at the theater when we first saw it in
>June of 1977 and this scene was in it. I no longer have the comic book but
>my brother insists that Luke had a cousin Duke. That I can't say for sure.
>Does anybody else remember this scene ?

I saw Star Wars in the first month after release (I was in NYC). I remember
no reference to the Academy, except when Luke was talking to his Uncle.

There were several scenes filmed that did not get in the final movie, and
several documentaries showed these "lost" scenes, such as Han's friendly
chat with Jabba the Hutt, right before he was forced to take off. Perhaps
this is what you remember.

Another possibility is that you vividly remember then scene from the
novelization.

-- 
Craig E. Smith                                       csmith@onetouch.COM
Columbus, OH                                       orson@bluemoon.rn.com
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From: EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu (BIG ED)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SOUNDTRACKS
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:13:17 GMT
 <1992Apr16.050515.6512@athena.mit.edu> <1992Apr16.054213.8090@athena.mit.edu>
 <92107.204715GJB113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University


   The vote for my favorite title is from Empire, called "The Duel"....awesome
piece of music....really heavy. Know what I mean Vern?

                                     -Ed

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Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 14:49:56 EDT
From: BIG ED <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: "Leia", or "Carrie"?


      Ok, before I start with this type of post, I want everyone to know that I
 have the upmost respect for Star Wars. It's a (sadly enough...) major part of
 my life. Ok, so here we go.

       In Star Wars, when Luke returns from destroying the Death Star, Leia
yells, "Luke!", now, does Luke yell "Leia!" or "Carrie!"? I'm sure a lot of you
 have heard about this discussion before, but what does everyone else think? I
 personally hear "Carrie" plain as day, and watching it on LD helps. (esp. with
the repeat segment feature!)

       Also, check out Darth's Lightsaber when Luke hits the blaster door
controls before they blastoff the Death Star. He's holding a silver rod! Looks
as if ILM missed a segment to "energize" Darth's LS.

       I guess I could go on, so I will. Remember, I'm not making fun of Star
 Wars by any means. It's just that after watching them so many times, it's fun
to find some film errors that were to blatantly overlooked before.

       Ok, here we go. In RotJ, when Solo, Leia, and the Rebels are captured
on Endor, they all have their hands behind their heads. Well look closely,
there is a Stormtrooper standing there with his hands on his head too. Cool, eh
?

       Alright, I'll stop there, before someone gets upset. Let me know how
many others have found flaws, there are a lot more than those above; it's
interesting to see just how close some people watch the movies.

              The Force will be with you...always



                                     -Ed

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From: bike@athena.mit.edu (Michael Y Fan)
Subject: Re: TV Specials
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:49:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.203031.23845@acsu.buffalo.edu> v106lr4h@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric T Sasse) writes:
>In article <74314@netnews.upenn.edu>, golden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Stephen "Jokey" Golden) writes...
>>> 
>>There was also another Ewok movie beside the one mentioned above, but I don't
>>know the name.
>
>    Might you be thinking about the "Droids" and the "Ewoks" saturday morning
>cartoons? These were really cheesy, and the toys they put out with them were
>even lamer, except a reissuing of Boba Fett on the Droids figure line, and an
>A-Wing pilot too!!! Never could actually find either of them though :(.
>What's the going price for these lines of the figures? I bet they're somewhat 
>rare since noone liked them. 
>                                                            -Eric

There were TWO TV movies:
The Ewok Adventure (originally titled Caravan of Courage)
The Battle for Endor
					Mike Fan
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith)
Subject: The Latest Star Wars Novel 
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 18:37:22 GMT

The novel that came out recently (I forget the name).

I heard a rumor that this was a novelization of what was to be the
seventh SW film (the three presently made being 4,5&6) and that
Lucas has abandoned making 7,8&9.

Can anyone confirm/deny/clarify this?

-- 
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From: joshuali@sal-sun79.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Jedi editing errors
Date: 16 Apr 1992 15:56:02 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: joshuali@sal-sun79.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun79.usc.edu


	I don't know who said there will be no more Indy movies but it wasn`t from
	Lucasfilm.  It may happen again...

	I can't believe this news group!!  I look and there are only 10 news
	messages and I come back a day later and there are like 250!!!
	
	A load of people have been asking about the Star Wars Holiday Special
	with the first appearance of Boba Fett (in cartoon form).  I've <ahem>
	got this particular video and am willing to TRADE with anyone who has 
	rare items such as STEREO COPIES OF THE STAR WARS AND EMPIRE RADIO
	DRAMAS!!!  Otherwise I would be copying it for everyone.  A word of
	caution however, the quality of the production is, how can I put this,
	TERRIBLE!  But very funny!  I can understand why Lucas has decided not to
	distribute it.  It`s worth the cartoonn though which was made by the 
	same people who did the Ewoks/Droids bits on Sat. mornings in `84-`86.

	Well, does anyone have the radio tapes I spoke of???!!!

	WELL!?!?!

	Also, I am looking for the YAK FACE action figure by Kenner in the 
	Power of the Force packaging with coin, not the tri-lingual package.
	If anyone knows of a whereabouts of the existance of one of these little
	rareties for around $125, please let me know.
	
	Just to clear something up.  STAR WARS has always been EPISODE IV.
	For ever... and ever!

	
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From: gat@forsight.jpl.nasa.gov (Erann Gat)
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:44:55 GMT

> As far as i can remember the IV was always in the movie.  I just
> think that most people didnt notice it until the second or third time that
> they saw the movie.  

I saw the movie 27 times on its first release (give me a break - I was in
junior high school and it was a small town!) including five showings one
heady Saturday.  When TESB came out I remember very clearly being surprised
by the "EPISODE V" in the opening title.  Later when I saw SW on video
the "EPISODE IV" seemed odd, and I had definitely never encountered
"A NEW HOPE" before.  I'll lay heavy odds it wasn't there in 1977 (though
I wonder how we'd ever be able to settle the bet).

Erann Gat
gat@robotics.jpl.nasa.gov
From: pjangli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Philip Anglin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:53:04 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Apr15.222329.13455@cs.umn.edu> pockrand@cs.umn.edu (Mitch Pockrandt) writes:
>
>I recall reading about the plot sketches that Lucas had for the 
>three trilogies as early as a few months before the second release.
>(That was probably around Jan 1979.)  I think it is safe to say 
>that he has had ideas for all 9 movies, but not that he always planned
>to make them.  After Episode 6 was released, his marriage broke up,
>which helped to bring about statements like "No more Star Wars films!"
>from Lucas.  A few years later it was suggested that they might be
>made as new video production techniques were developed which would
>help lessen the workload of putting a set of movies together.  The
>last I read (a few years ago), if the episodes 1-3 were made, they
>would be produced as a group, then released sequentially.
>
>Mitch Pockrandt
>Minneapolis, MN
>(pockrand@cs.umn.edu)
>(pockrand@src.honeywell.com)

I seem to remember reading an article on Star Wars
in Time magazine in 1977 in which Lucas spoke about
plans for 3 trilogies. I might be mistaken, though.
It was a _long_ time ago (in a galaxy far, far away =8^)).
Anyone care to check it out?

Oh, and may the Schwartz be with you... =8^)


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From: chris@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Chris Wolf)
Subject: Re: Random musings...
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:58:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.172346.15935@acsu.buffalo.edu> v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons) writes:
>    The SW Radio Drama, final episode. I don't want to post 
>quotes from the movies, so I'll be pulling them from obscure
>(But legitimate sources).
>                                George
>"They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally,
>they became heroes."
>                              -Leia Organa Solo
>                          (Figure the source for yourself)

That one was too easy - better use more obscure sources 8-)
Prologue to the novelization of Star Wars.  And she wasn't Organa _Solo_ 
when she said it 8-) 

-cwolf
.

Organization: Freshman, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:50:26 -0400 
From: Michael Raymond Cote <mc7g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: One Vote for Star Wars (A New Hope)

I'd have to cast my vote for the original movie.  

--Michael Cote

"Mos Eisley Spaceport.  You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum
and villainy."
         --Ben
From: joshuali@sal-sun118.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:32:37 GMT
Reply-To: joshuali@sal-sun118.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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To: pckyip@athena.mit.edu
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Cc: 
Bcc: 

	Here's as much as I know.
		
		If there is a new Star Wars film, it will start with episode 
	one.  Yes it is true that Lucas said he is bored with Star Wars in the 
	new issue of Cinefantastique but after receiving the Thalberg (I think
	that`s what it's called) at the Academy Awards he was asked what was in
	the future of Lucasfilm, he replied that they are doing the Young Indy
	Chronicals (of course), a film about Black pilots in WWII called
	Red Tails, ...and to be on the look out for another trilogy (Star Wars
	that is) starting in the next 5 years (just in time for the 20th 
	anniversary of A New Hope.)
		I heard also that creatures are in development at ILM and that
	Lucas may use Zemekis` idea for BTTF II and III and make the whole 
	new trilogy in a very short period of time (1 - 2 years).  Heir to the 
	Empire will not even be close to what the story will be about (come on,
	do you really think that Lucas would allow a story similar to what he
	is planning for a film be published?)  
		Here`s my prediction-  
		Lucas is probably gearing everyone up slowly what with a new
	comic out, a trilogy of new books starting with Heir to the Empire,
	Star Wars vitamins (what is the deal with those anyway?), and the role-
	playing game is very hot.  I work in a theater and we just received a
	letter that said that Empire and Jedi are going to be pulled from the 
	rental list in two months (not the videos-the FILMS).  Which means that
	if you`re lucky enough to find a theater where Empire or Jedi is 
	showing in the next couple months, GO!!!  You may not get another 
	chance to see it in a theater EVER!!!  Star Wars is still available 
	for cinemas to rent however.  Plus I heard that the vinyl model company
	that makes all those statue models like Pinhead, and The T-1000 will
	be producing a Darth Vader model statue.  I think all this means that
	Star Wars Episode 1 will be coming by 1997.  
		If you`re interested, pick up a copy of The Fall of the 
	Republic at a science fiction convention.  No one knows were this came 
	from but it has a logical story for those pre-Star Wars days.
	
		Keep this group going!!!  
			
					"It`s the price you pay for being
					successful."
						If you don`t know who said it
						then wacth the trilogy 10 or
						15 more times.
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From: Jeffrey Baron <jbaron@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: The blueprint package
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:42:55 -0500

In article <12605@umd5.umd.edu> walrus@bessel.umd.edu (Grig Larson) writes:
>Anyone still have the blueprint that published with the films that were sold
>in bookstores?

You're never gonna believe this...
but I found the blueprint packages for two dollars a piece in chicago.
AT AMERICAN SCIENCE AND SURPLUS!  No idea if they still have them, nor
do I have their address/phone number handy.  Most of the stuff on their
shelves have "All in Store, there ain't no more" stamped on them.

When my old package (vintage early 1980's, I know, I still have a photo
of me, four feet tall, looking at them) disappeared, I thot they were 
gone forever...thank you, American Science 'n Surplus!

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From: mm459504@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Michael Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS? (1st post?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:06:55 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College


Following this thread, I'll enter the bit of Trivia I have heard,
It is rumored that the stories only exist in outline form in some
vault that Lucas has access to. I had heard that he did chapters
4-7 only because they had the most action to them, the other 'chapters'
were more sublime and political in nature.



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From: tweaver@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Tim Weaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars Poll: Which is the best?
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:35:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: hobbes.1992Apr16.153504.24534
Organization: Kalamazoo College

The first, naturally.  
After they started turning Vader into a good guy it just went down hill.
This crap about Yoda lying and yet telling the truth is for the birds.
And they should have  killed Han Solo off, married life will do that
anyway.  Leah as Lukes sister? Give me a break, I'm not even going to
go into it.
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From: wang@ibma1.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric Wang)
Subject: Re: Star Wars the video game
Reply-To: wang@ibma0.cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:10:01 GMT

masanag@athena.mit.edu (Masahiko Nagamiya) writes:

>... you're in an X-wing, you shoot Tie-fighters until you approach the
>Death Star, and then you shoot towers and other things that shoot at
>you. Then you go into the trench, where there are many obstacles, and
>if you use the force (don't shoot at anything) and hit the hole thingy
>you get bonus points for using the force.

I played this game a lot as an undergrad.  The best player I ever saw
was Bill Gray, a fellow Flem at CIT, who one night before a social event
the next morning at dawn decided that he wanted to stay up all night and
play Star Wars.  So he put in ONE quarter, played with his LEFT hand (he
was right-handed) for six hours, and walked away from the machine with
69,000,000+ points and all 7 shields.  He later told me that he was
never below 5 shields for the entire game.  The force was strong with
that one ...

Eric Wang
wang@ibma0.cs.uiuc.edu


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From: mbrockma@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman)
Subject: Re: Help needed on Boba Fett...
Organization: Twin Peaks Sheriff Department
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 00:01:01 GMT

In article <92107.014416MAC139@psuvm.psu.edu> <MAC139@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In reference to all that stuff/armament/skills/gizmos that Boba Fett has:
>...hard to believe a simple jab to his rocket pack could send him to his doom,
>huh? I always hated that. :-) BF was one of my favorite characters and seeing
>his demise, especially that one, didn't go over too well with me.

He didn't necessarily die. All he'd have to do is wait out the battle and
then launch himself back out. After all, it takes 1000 years to die
in the pit! :-)


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