From: sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Schitt Laowattana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Salary for instructor
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:02:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8eqQjRO00WBL84SXo9
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from mail: 12-Oct-92 Re: Salary for instructor by Uthayopas
Putchong@usl.e

[Schitt]: 

> >    1. This is not a big budget when compared with allocations in other
> >matters.  This agenda is both urgent and important which our government
> >needs to take care immediately.

[Khun Putchong]:

>      I think that this budget is quite big because the government must
> pay it every year. And they must pay more and more if they have the 
> 7-10% increase in salary every year. The budget will double in 10 years.

[Schitt]:

    Other budgets are in scales of billion baht.

>  
> >    2. It's not a matter of how "loog mia noi" instructors in other
> >fields are.   This time around, the government must think about a logic
> >of demand-supply.  S&T intructors in Thailand are really in bad shape.

[Khun Putchong]:
>  
>      I understand how serious the situation about the S&T man power 
> in Thailand. But this kind of thing is a delicate matter. It deal with
> the feeling of many many people. And also some politic is involve too.
> So, I don't think that government can ignore this. Suppose that the 

[Schitt]:

    Demand-supply logics should be applied.  If there is a high demand
for social scientists and there is not enough of them in universities,
the similar solutions will used to provide more incentives to them. 
However, I also mentioned in one of my previous posts that the
government should not ignore social scientists eventhough the problem of
human shortage in such a field have not come yet. The contribution of
these people is highly significant in terms of disciplinary and moral
enhancement for our society.


>  
> >    3. To avoid such a conflict in (2), isolation of S&T universities,
> >perhaps, is an optimized solution.  That is S&T universities are more
> >flexible to work with industry (R&D and consulting jobs) and are allowed
> >to balance their budget.  These universities must find external sources
> >of income to support highly qualified personel by their own. 

[Khun Putchong]:
>  
>      Personnally, I don't agree much with this ideas.I don't like the 
> isolation of S&T or specific technical university. I think that the 
> university life mean more to people than spending a period to learn
> what they teach in classroom and lab. I think that university much 
> balance between art and science. If university environment contain only
> pure science, the way of thinking will be narrowed. I like to exchange 
> idea to many people with differnt background. Actually, I feel that 
> there is something wrong in our education. Most of the student I met
> don't know much about good book, literature, culture. This   
> their attitude and how they live in sociaty. I don't think this is
> the good way to educate people. 

[Schitt]:

    I think whatever you mention about university life still exists
after isolation takes place.  The main purpose of such an isolation is
to get S&T universities moving effectively.  They will be able to
recruit qualified personel. 

>  
> >    4. Having discussed with Thai S&T students and professionals, I am
> >convinced that resonable salary is one of the fundamental factors to
> >build up "S&T critical mass".  Of course, I am not in favor of the idea
> >to pay salary at the same level which they can make if they work here. 
> >That's impossible.  I am proposing the same salary or a bit better
> >compared to one in private sectors in Thailand.
>  

[Khun Putchong]:

>  
>         I strongly agree with you in this point. I don't want much 
> salary even compare to what they pay in private sector. Anyway, the
> salary they pay to university instructor now is terribly low. I'm
> glad if they improve it.
>  
>         I'm very glad when I read what you post on the net. Because
> I know that you care about the future of our country. Please be sure 
> that you are not alone. I alway hope for better tomorrow and believe
> that it depends on us to create it. 
>  

[Schitt]:

    Thank you very much for sharing concerns and dreams.  As indicated
in our history, we always succeed whenever we are united.

Warm Regrads,
Schitt  laowattana

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