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From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Subject: Re: ELIZABETH COTTON
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:30:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.132802.3575@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ADJS@nmumus.bitnet writes:
>What a songwriter and storyteller, agreed agreed agreed... also of
>interest is that music was not her occupation until she was encouraged
>to pursue it by Charles Seeger (Pete & Mike's pop), in whose kitchen she
>worked. Pete mentions (in his sorta autobiography "The Incomplete

Someone posted this beautiful article in response to a question about the
_Reckoning_ dedication to Elizabeth Cotten of "Oh Babe, It Ain't No Lie".

Gail

"Dust off those rusty strings just one more time
 Gonna make 'em shine"

*** 

From novavax!uflorida!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!bpe1 Mon Nov 20 09:04:54 EST 1989
Article 19435 of rec.music.gdead:
>From: BPE1@PSUVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Elizabeth Cotten
Date: 17 Nov 89 23:55:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Penn State University

Elizabeth Cotten was the child of slaves.  Her guitar, which she played left-
handed and upside down, was named Stella.  Although she started playing guitar
as a child, she had a job as a housekeeper in the Seeger house.  This is the
family that the famous folksingers Mike and Pete Seeger are from.  One day,
Libba took a break from dusting and played a guitar that was lying around.
Mike Seeger came in and surprised her.  That is how she was discovered.
She had a unique style of finger picking guitar, now called Cotton-picking.


She performed into her 90's.  I had the privledge to spend two Sunday mornings
in the summer at folk festivals, listening to her do some rightous gospel.
She wrote a song that her niece, who was girl, sang on an album.  The song is
"Shake Sugaree".  Her best known song, though, is "Frieght Train", which always
sounded to me like a perfect song for Jerry to cover.
Frieght train, frieght train, run so fast.
Frieght train, frieght train, run so fast.
Please don't tell what train I'm on,
They won't know whereof I've gone.

I last saw her at the 1986 Philadelphia Folk Festival.  She was very weak and
did not have the spark she had seven years earlier.  She was about 97 years
old, and took the time to say farewell to us.  She said it was the last time
she would see us, and that she loved us all.

Got a little secret, aint gonna tell.
I'm going to heaven in an old pea shell.
Oh my oh me, didn't I shake sugaree,
everything I got is done and pawned.

May she rest in peace.

Please don't tell them that you knew my name, my darlin', Sugaree.  Mr. Bruce
From: MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Overdubbed Vocals on Without A Net
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:44:48 GMT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <1992Sep29.120818.8687@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>,
andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com says:
>
>        Ok, so I've seen the posts here as of late that claim that certain
>Garcia vocals were overdubbed on "Without A Net".  I'll assume for the moment
>that this is true.  If so, shouldn't the band be liable for FALSE
>ADVERTISING???The overdubs invalidate the name of the album.  The overdubs are
>The Net.
>They also invalidate the claim of being a "live" album.  I want my money back.
>Whats next?  Jerry lipsynchin at shows?

Crap, it ain't _THAT_ bad.  Think of how depressed the vanillie.heads were,
when they found out that that NEVER was the boyz singing "Girl You Know it's
True".  After 18 shows up and down the coast a few years ago, I just thought
they had a 'polished' act.  When I found out that it wasn't really Millie
Vanillie singing, I instantly GOT OFF THE BUS.  I understand there are less
miracle seekers at MillieVanillie shows these days, but you can understand
why!

Joe Doheny
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: SHAPLEIG@peocu1.peocu.navy.mil
Subject: RE: Saint Sailor + various...
Reply-To: SHAPLEIG@peocu1.peocu.navy.mil
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:20:19 GMT

Hey Gang -
     Couple of things on my mind.  First, my choice for the best 
St. Sailor would be from Vegas '84.  China->Rider Sailor->St.->JAM!
I only had the first half of the Second set as a filler and the Jam
was cut off at a crucial point.  Next, all these choices for favorite 
venues and the mentioning of Merriwether Post got me to thinking of my
first show.  Maybe we could start a new thread describing your initial
impression of da boyz.  I'll start:

6-30-85 Merriwether
I don't have a list and it seems a sin that one wouldn't have a tape of
his/her first show, but a few things stand out in my mind.  I wasn't very 
familiar with the dead, just album oriented.  All my friends would talk
about was the killer shows/situations in Richmond/Hampton.  I remember being
disappointed that they didn't play Terrapin!  I had heard Shakedown before
as well as Baby Blue [Dylan experience that is].  I was also familiar with
Keep on Growin.  Nice touch I thought.  I remember being moved by that rain
song. [First set LLrain]  The big surprise was of course That's it for the
Other One.  I was out on the lawn and remember people around me saying,
"I can't believe they're playing the whole other one!"  Not sure what 
she was talking about, I replied enthusiasticly "Yeah, the whole damn
thing."
     Kind of humbling, huh?  Boy if I knew then what I know Now...
I'd be interested to hear some other impressions of their first show.

Big Bri

P.S.  Just as I started writing this, the dead come on the radio with
Bobby's Good Lovin.  Hmmmm.  

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Beth Livingston <SASFXL@vm.sas.com>
Subject: Re: venues
Reply-To: SASFXL@vm.sas.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:25:51 GMT

Well, I can't believe no one has mentioned the sweetest east coast
venue for the past 10 years or so--Hampton Coliseum in good old Hampton,
VA.

The Scene is incredibly mellow, it is relatively small, is one of
the last GA places, and once inside, I have never yet seen
all the security muscle that seems to plague our shows these days.
In fact, I don't recall EVER seeing aisle nazis or uniforms of any sort,
except a few mellow guards trying to protect the taping section from the
surge of dancers on the floor...

On top of that, the Boyz seem to really like Hampton.  Of course there were
the killer Warlocks shows (yes, both!) back in '89, the "stealth shows" this
spring, the guest appearance of Bruce at the JGB show last fall--but check
out ANY Hampton tapes you can get..they are almost always stellar performances.

Something special and magical ALWAYS happens at Hampton...

And last but not least, you just might get treated to a foggy night, like
last March 5..Under even the most normal circumstances ;-) the coliseum looks
EXACTLY like an alien spaceship that has landed..
And under somewhat enhanced circumstances, in the fog, with thousands of
dancing, tie-dye clad extraterrestrials pouring down the 2 exit ramps and
it is all lit up with spotlights with nothing else visible...well...it is
|quite< remarkable...Hope they come back REAL, REAL soon!!!!
                                   ____
Beth Livingston              |   //  %/\\   "Without love in the dream
SASFXL@vm.sas.com            |  ((  %/  ))   it'll never come true."
SAS Institute, Inc.          |   \\%___//
These are my opinions, and   |     ^/\^      Practice random kindness
not anyone else's I know of! |     ::::   and senseless acts of beauty.
From: shunter@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dark Star Crashes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Phil Garris Dead Litho
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:30:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.38909
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep30.180740.13536@sunspot.noao.edu> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>>Wonder who Phil Garris is?  As I mentioned earlier, a friend saw the
>>original Blues for Allah art for $40,000 in San Diego.  So $500 for a
>>signed and numbered original may not be far from market price.

Hmmm. Well, I saw some _unsigned_ but numbered lithographs at a
shop in San DIego for 50 bucks apiece. I never did buy one, one was
kicking myself for not having done so.

Then, about three months later my band was asked to play a book
signing party for Sandy Troy's book. Phil Garris lives up in LA, so
he came down for that (Mouse came too) and sold me a litho which he 
signed for me for 35 bucks. I'd much rather have my name on a litho 
than a number. :-)

Actually, he gave me his phone number and said if I had friends who
wanted lithographs he'd do a batch and send 'em down.... I'll see if
I can find his number.

Dave
-- 
***************************************************************************
*                           Dave Chesavage                                *
*                      shunter@igrad1.ucsd.edu                            *
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Mildly humorous posting for psychologists
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:58:14 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct1.192200.12825@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, ashton@stolaf.edu write
s:
>
>        Laura Bassi writes:
>
>|Subject: Re: Deadhead Test?
>        <deleted stuff>
>|Oh, I disagree....
>|the validity of those other tests may be highly questionable HOWEVER
>|the reliability is PRETTY GOOD
>        <more deleted>
>
>        "Reliability is a test's ability to be insensitive to change"
>                                - Geroge Kelly
>|
>|Therefore, 2nd gen's abound!
>
>        Would there be regression?
>
>        -Bill
>
Oh jeez...
stat's questions...
well, I'll predict regression on the mean...
Now, who knows what the mean might actually be?
Anyone into estimating the population mean? haha

peace,
laura
From: wuly@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: My "future" favorite venue...
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:26:35 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Howdy Folks-
	Speaking of MFVs (My Favorite Venues), I was passing through Memphis
Tenn. this summer (from Ithaca to Austin by Greyhound :-() and I noticed this
really incredible structure. It was a giant mirrored pyramid set right beside
the Mississippi River. As the bus was going by, the driver mentioned that it 
was a sports arena or something and that it seated about 15,000 people. Maybe
the Dead have played there already, but this place would get my vote as one of
the neatest new places to see a show. There weren't any other buildings near
it to compare it to, but I'd say it must've been a good 15 to 20 stories high.
Does anyone know what this place is called? Does anyone know what it looks like
from the inside?
zack f
From: wpc@po.CWRU.Edu (William P. Claspy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Grandma digs the Dead
Date: 29 Sep 1992 14:38:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Hey now!
Spent a long weekend in the U.P. of Michigan visiting relatives with
Grandma.  Naturally I had some very tasty tapes ('77 Englishtown, '77
Ithaca, _Reckoning_) and as I was rocking out to Bertha, I noticed
Grandma tapping her feet and drumming her fingers on her knee.
"Grandma," I says, "do you like this music?"  "Sure, it's pretty
snappy!"

Gotta love that "pretty snappy" from an 89 year old who's only used
to rocking in a rocking chair!

Bill
-- 
William Claspy			Case Western Reserve University
Internet- wpc@po.cwru.edu
MaBellnet- (216) 368-3595
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: barnes@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Joshua Edward Barnes)
Subject: Re: Emigrating - tapes wanted!
Summary: London was a good place to see the Dead in '81.
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:20:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.174230.4906@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>
lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com writes:
>
>		   ... there were actually 2 tours of Europe in '81,
>though the first was very short.
>
>3/20/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
>3/21/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
>3/23/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
>3/24/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England

    Ah yes, the good ol' *Rainbow Theater*!  My first show was during
this run.  I'd flown over from California, of all places, to visit my
girlfriend.  One fine evening somebody mentioned "Hey, the Grateful
Dead are in town!"  I turned to Kathleen and said "Why don't we check
it out?"  So we did.  Got tickets *at the door*, too.  I don't recall
which night it was; I _think_ they played Jack A Roe, but I could be
mistaken...

    A few days later I sadly boarded a plane for the US of A; got off
at San Francisco and made my weary way down to Santa Cruz.  Got back
home to a housefull of 'heads all asking what I did in London.  "Went
to a Grateful Dead concert!" said I.

>10/2/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
>10/3/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England 
>10/4/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
>10/6/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England

    By the time the Dead came back to Europe that fall, I'd pulled up
stakes and moved to London.  Naturally we went to another show (the
necessity of seeing *every* show in a run wasn't so pressing in those
days).  Anyway, I do remember that it was the day Anwar Sadat was
assassinated ;-(.  We'd been following the story all day as it broke;
that evening as we rode the tube to the Rainbow we saw headlines
confirming Sadat was dead.  It sort of cast a pall over the evening
for us.  I didn't know enough at the time to listen for "He's Gone",
so I'm still wondering: did the Dead do anything to commemorate
Sadat's death?  It might make sense, given they'd visited Egypt.

    Thanks for reviving those memories, lester!

					Cheers,

						Josh Barnes

					barnes@zeno.ifa.hawaii.edu
From: parama@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Vice_Captain_Trips)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Zakir Hussain in Chicago, Airto singing on Dark Star?
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:32:50 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <1992Sep26.220739.20895@news.acns.nwu.edu> germuska@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Joe Germuska) writes:
>(for you who didn't know, Zakir Hussain is a long time friend,
>collaborator, and I believe student of Mickey Hart, who as mentioned in the
			     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Not at all. Zakir is the student of his illustrious father Allah Rakha, whom
some of you may remember as the tabla artist who played with pandit Ravi
Shankar at Monterrey.

--P2
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: " Jeanine V. Knox " <knox@atonal.pci.upmc.edu>
Subject: please add me to subscriber list
Reply-To: knox@atonal.pci.upmc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:35:53 GMT

I was on the subscriber list previously but was inadvertantly dropped.  Thanks!

Jeanie
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: tested
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:14:02 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Sep29.183315.4268@EE.Stanford.EDU> bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) writes:
>>'Tested and proven Deadhead'?  I don't think we ever decided exactly what
>There's this little alley in San Rafael where you get licensed,

	I got my diploma from the back of a matchbook.  "You too can make
Hundreds of Dollars following little-known rockand roll groups all over
the United States!"
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: Emigrating - tapes wanted!
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:42:30 GMT

David Micklem follows up Fred Ringwald:

|>I will be emigrating to England in January, and considering how
|>uniquely American the Dead are - plus, they've only toured Europe
|>twice, in 1972 and 1990 - this might make it harder for me to get
|>tapes.
|>
|Wow!  And I *distinctly* remember going to my first ever Dead show
|in Edinburgh (Europe) in the early eighties.

David is correct of course, there were actually 2 tours of Europe in '81,
though the first was very short.

3/20/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
3/21/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
3/23/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
3/24/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
3/28/81 Gruga Halle, Essen, Germany      <- FM broadcast

9/30/81 Playhouse Theater, Edinburgh, Scotland
10/2/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
10/3/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England 
10/4/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
10/6/81 Rainbow Theater, London, England
10/8/81 Forum Theater, Copenhagen, Denmark
10/10/81 Stadt Halle, Bremen, Germany
10/11/81 Club Melk Weg, Amsterdam, Netherlands
10/12/81 Olympia Halle, Munich, Germany
10/13/81 Walter Koebel Halle, Russelsheim, Germany
10/15/81 Club Melk Weg, Amsterdam, Netherlands 
10/16/81 Club Melk Weg, Amsterdam, Netherlands
10/17/81 The Hippodrome, Paris, France
10/19/81 Sports Palace, Barcelona, Spain

There was also a short tour in '74:

9/9/74 Alexandra Palace, London, England
9/10/74 Alexandra Palace, London, England
9/11/74 Alexandra Palace, London, England
9/14/74 Olympia Halle, Munich, Germany
9/18/74 (Unknown Venue), Dijon, France
9/20/74 Palais des Sports, Paris, France
9/21/74 Palais des Sports, Paris, France

And then there were the single-shot shows:

5/24/70 Newcastle-Under-Lyme, England

6/21/71 Chateau d'Herouville, France

Did I miss any?

Doesn't mean tapes are any easier to find in Europe, though. :-)

-Jeff Lester
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Various Musings
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:25:56 EDT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <80641@ut-emx.uucp>, misi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (michael singley) says:
>Next, I listened to a gdhr from the summer featuring 10/19/74.
>I thought this selection was great.  Are other 74 shows this good?

I'll comment positively on other '74 shows :-).  There is a ROCKING sound
quality to the tapes from '74 I have heard.  I guess one of the first tapes
from '74 which comes to my mind (wouldn't be a 'rockin' fer-instance) would
be the night before this, 10/18/74.  The one tape has a 45min plus SICK Phil
& Ned ->Dark Star (and I think they go into Dew from there, on the other
side of the tape).  Providence 6/26/74 I believe it is, has a *KILLER*
China Cat->Rider.  They start the China Cat, and just jam it out a while before
they start singing the verses.  Way cool ;-).  Over the weekend I found myself
listening to 6/30/74 Springfield, which for me the highlight was a Playin->
Uncle John's->Playin.  The playin was a mind extension :-).  The Eyes from
6/18/74 is way out there, and again, ROCKIN.  All in all, I think that 1974
was one of the hottest years the band has had.

I'll use this space to grovel.  I haven't done it in a long time, but...
Anybody out there have 10/16/74, a complete 10/17/74, or a decent recording
of 6/22/74?  I have this horrible copy of 6/22/74, but it was one of the
HOTTEST China->Riders I've ever heard.

Joe Doheny
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: AAT@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (Gus Trautweiler)
Subject: Possible future dates though New Years
Organization: University of Massachusetts
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:07:51 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

	Oakland, CA		Dec. 4,5,6
	Denver, CO (McNichols)	Dec. 8,9,10
	Compton Terrace		Dec. 12,13

	I heard they reserved satalite time on New Years Eve for radio.
	I also heard that Guns & Roses has Oakland for New Years Eve
	(someone else posted Metalica also for Oakland).  One Crazy thing
	I heard was Cow Palace for NYE but given its sideways set up it
	seems ridiculus.

	Also JGB may play a single gig on Halloween location unknown.

	Please substantiate if possible.
	
	Gus Trautweiler
	Plant & Soil Science: Biotechnology
	University of Massachusetts
    	AAT@UCC.UMASS.EDU

	Gus Trautweiler (The Reporter Gene!)
	Plant & Soil Science: Biotechnology
	University of Massachusetts
	AAT@UCC.UMASS.EDU
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Marley quote (was Re: Bonnie Rait)
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:35:17 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

(Bill Moore) writes:
>(Matt Brown) writes:
>> Didn't PT Barnum say "There's a sucker born every minute"? That's not quite
>> the same as Lincoln or Marley's adaptation of Lincoln. Or did you have a
>> different quote in mind?

>No, no, why stop there? How about the "totally obsequious" approach:

>Hi. I'm really sorry if this offends anyone, but I'm not
>really sure if PT Barnum said that. IMHO. Still, it's cool
>to *think about* PT Barnum saying that, so maybe he did. IMHO.
>And really, any errors you may have made are more than compensated
>for by quoting a really cool Bob Marley song. You're OK, you know that?
>I'm sorry I brought it up.
>
>:-)

Point taken, Bill. The only thing missing is an irrelevent Robert Hunter quote.
Truth is, I don't mind people flaming full on. It's
people correcting something that doesn't need correcting by posting
misinformation that was bugging me. But I suppose if people quit doing
that, our newsfeed would dry up and blow away. For what is USENET, if not
carelessly crafted misinformation for the masses.

I really don't want this to turn into rec.music.gdead.wimpy.wimpy.wimpy, 
even if that article sounded too much like "Emily Post meets wharfie and
lives to regret it"

Matt
I'm glad you threw in the smiley. Unfortunately, my mind has been poisoned
by the suggestion from a correspondent elsewhere, who, when I asked for a
net shorthand for "Fuck Off and Die", wrote:

:-)

Now :-)

I haven't been able to use a smiley in good conscience since.
From: hall@lclark.edu (Matthew Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: TAB request
Date: 4 Oct 92 22:20:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Oct4.222055.20096
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

For you guitar playing types out there.....
I'd like to see the tab & lyrics (original and 90' versions if possible)
for Black Throated Wind. There are a few other items I'm in the market for ass
well: Some JGB style "Waiting for A Miracle", "The Maker"
        and Dylan:"Visions of Johanna", "Love Mius Zero/No Limit"

		Much Thanx
			   Matt
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Subject: Grateful Comics
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 13:35:44 GMT

A friend who has been collecting comics art for many years recently
attended the big Comics Convention in San Diego, where he said they
had lots of neat stuff, including neat drawings by S. Clay Wilson, and
lots of Rick Griffin's work.  He said they had the original art for
Blues for Allah, just gorgeous, but priced at a whopping $40,000!
The convention attendees were, as one might expect, in large part
old hippies from the 60's who still dig comics, but are now rich
business people with big bank accounts.

Gail
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jbravem@helix.nih.gov (Joshua Braveman)
Subject: Re: Jeff's tape of the week: 3/24/90 II
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 13:33:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.024445.11716@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu writes:
>Hi Everyone!
>
>I've been listening to 3/24/90 ][ a lot lately. It's from
>the Knickerbocker Arena, Albany NY. Set II is
>
>Playin > Uncle John's > Terrapin > JAM > drums > space >
>wheel > watchtower > stella > NFA.
>
>E: AWBYGN
>
>My tape is a soundboard of unknown generation, AWBYGN is audience
>for some reason. Anyhow, the show is well played, and the jam after
>Terrapin is just totally amazing!! I don't know if the statisticians
>have a name for this one (is it the "Mind Left Body" that I've never been 
>able to pin down?) but it is really a piece of music, it sounds almost
>rehearsed but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that it wasn't. It's 


Yup - that's it.  Check out 12/2/73 II for another primo example of this
jam.  Personally, the 1st set of  3/24/90 also cooks, IMHO.  That Loser
is one of my favorites in addition to Desolation Row.


Josh

Josh Braveman - jbravem@helix.nih.gov or
    jmbraveman@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu or
    jb3yrhmc@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu