From: ins877s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr Tan Teong Hooi)
Subject: Re: Electrical Engineering In UM
Organization: Monash University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:06:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.073622.11497@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>I suspect this is the case but it is nice to have a confirmation and more
>exact figures. I thought this figure is a secret, at least at NTU.

Now look, I believe what I have quoted was just some non-official statistics.
Yes, you are right. Such figures are always a secret. Always.

>	How about UTM? I have colleagues at Telekom Malaysia who graduate from
>UTM(Chinese), some even got scholarships and studied at USA after finishing
>diplomas at UTM.

Since UTM accepts some students with "exceptional" SPM results, most my of
friends who have spent 2 yrs doing STPM won't consider applying. They would
rather try their luck on UM, NUS or NTU. Talking about that, as far as I'm
aware of, UTM seems to have a weird criteria of admitting SPM students.
Some of them with 8As or 9As got rejected, but some with only 6As or 7As
are welcome. Anyone know more about that? 

>There are a lot of questions and inconsisistencies about the chinese students
>in Malaysia. I hope someone can clarify them for me.
>How come these students do not get scholarships for overseas studies, whereas
>some who are not as qualified can?

You tell me!!!

>	One reason is that they do not even apply or read newspaper 
>advertisements for scholarship application. This actually happened in one
>case quoted by a bumiputra colleague.

No way! Most of them (at least those I know) tried every possibility to go
overseas to further their studies. Even my friends who have got 5As and
doing Medicine or EE in UM, are hoping to go abroad.

>	How about Kwok Scholarship, Colombo Plan etc.? What other criteria
>is required for eligibility? I thought 5A is the highest possible. Who wants
>to have more? 

Some scholarships based heavily on both one's financial situation and academic
performance. Many organisations now are trying to cut down on allocating
funds for students studying abroad, instead, they give priority to students
studying locally. This applied at least to Kuok Foundation in Malaysia and
Lee Foundation in Singapore.

>How about the qualification for others. I predict it is only in Cs because
>the best had been sent for overseas study under loan/scholarship.
>	I never bother to apply to UM because it is not good at engineering.
>I may change my mind now. I'm more concerned about my children's future.
>Has the world become more competitive? I thought it is already competitive
>in my time.
>Why does not he apply to NTU/NUS? He may get scholarships here?

What's the difference between UM and NTU/NUS? Furthermore, the latter may
even be more competitive!

[Many lines deleted.]

>Malaysian government should do something about this brain-drain. I do not
>support the removal of the NEP because the current situation affects 
>everyone whether chinese or malays.
>
>The NEP is another topic for debate.
>I sincerely hope someone can comment. 
>
>--
>Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
>Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
>Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
>Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
>


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