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From: swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Disney/FernGully artwork comparisons
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:46:26 GMT

All of this below might be complete rubbish, 'coz I'm no expert in this area. 
I'm just suggesting a few theories...

Anyway, I noticed the following similarities between the American poster for
Beauty and the Beast and the poster for FernGully (Australian fillum!):

1.  On the BatB poster, Beast appears as a cloud in the distance, looking
around from behind the castle.  On the FernGully poster, Hexus is also a cloud,
and appears in roughly the same place and shape as the castle in the BatB
poster.

2.  On the BatB poster, Cogsworth is down in the bottom-left corner, holding
his arms up and looking to the right.  On the FernGully poster, Magi Lune
appears in the same place and is striking the same pose.  Also, the frilly lid
on Mrs. Potts' head just in front of Cogsworth corresponds with the frilly bits
on Magi's dress.

3.  On the BatB poster, Belle is holding her arm up in the same direction and
position as Crysta is flying on the FernGully poster.  Both things are roughly
the same pinkish colour.

4.  The sweeping curve of the tree trunk and Lumiere on the BatB poster down
in the bottom right corner matches the sweep of Batty Koda's wing in the
FernGully poster.

5.  Both pictures are in a sort of leafy woodland setting, with mountains and
trees in the distance.

The last few points are a bit esoteric probably, and I don't claim to be any
expert on picture composition or anything.  The two posters just struck me as
being slightly similar in a number of ways.  I thought this may be why the
reddish-yellowish airbrushed BatB artwork seemed to be more widespread here in
Australia, instead of the one on this movie poster sticker I'm comparing
FernGully to (I'm assuming this is the poster in America).

Also, along the same lines, Robin Williams' new Genie character in Aladdin
(going by the reviews anyway) sounds a bit like Batty Koda.  Batty did a number
of impersonations (John Wayne, Luke Skywalker etc...)  Then again I suppose any
cartoon character with Robin Williams for a voice is bound to be similar.

Like I said, these are just a few random thoughts, I'm no expert on any of this,
and I have absolutely no idea who was first with what.  Please don't flame me
to oblivion...

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From: helen@nomad.urich.edu (Helen C. O'Boyle)
Subject: Re: Lookingfor Unique things to do at WDW
Organization: University of Richmond
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:02:45 GMT

In article <2464@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>In article <1992Dec2.075457.19918@news.unomaha.edu> torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) writes:
>>huber@sunshine.Kodak.COM  writes:
>>>  I am off to WDW in a few weeks. I've been there a number of times
>>>  before so I would like to do something different this time. Any
>>> suggestions on things to do?
>[etc.]
>
>Torsten seems to have forgotten a few of our perennial family favorites:
>
>   Ask every employee you see how to find the Back-to-the-Future ride.
>   Attempt to get into the Living Seas pavilion carrying a fishing rod
>and tackle box.
>	[...]

.... and here's my suggestion:

Talk to all the Disneyfolk you run into.  The next bored employee you
encounter might be an unlikely-looking exec or general wizard with the
authority and willingness to take you behind the scenes if you're a little
insistent about it, or a monorail pilot who'll let you do a quarter-lap
before breakfast.  :-)  This social engineering takes time, but the payoffs
can be pretty nifty.
-- 
* Helen *
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From: rehrauer@apollo.hp.com (Steve Rehrauer)
Subject:  Seeking THE LITTLE MERMAID on VHS...
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:58:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

I know it's a long shot, but...

A coworker is looking for this Disney title on VHS tape.  (Thanks, I've
got my copy on laserdisc.)  Is there perhaps anyone out there who's
[a] seen a VHS copy of this lurking in some dusty local bin, or [b] has
a copy they'd sell?  ([b] may not be too farfetched, I hope; I bought
a copy on VHS until the LD was released, but mine's long since been
sold...  I guess I'm hoping to find a procrastinator... :-)

Thanks if you can help.  (Suggestions that I make a tape copy of my disc
aren't helpful.)

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 Even WE wouldn't eat THAT!"               | H.P. Systems Technology Division
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From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Mickey Massage
Distribution: world
Date: 13 Dec 92 08:43:33 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Hi, All!
 
On this week's Simpsons TV show, the following Disney reference was made:
 
(Scene starts out with a shot of a train trestle with a freight train
going by.  The camera pans down to a group of hobos (including one who
looks like Emmett Kelly, another is Charlie Chaplin eating a shoe!)
 
A title reads "Meanwhile, below the poverty line..."
 
One hobo speaks as a harmonica plays: "Yeah, I used to be rich.  I owned
Mickey Mouse Massage Parlors.  And those Disney sleaze-balls shut me down.
I said, `Look!  I'll change the logo, put Mickey's pants back on...'.
Some guys you just can't reason with."

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From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin: Soundtrack and "Legend of the Lamp"
Date: 12 Dec 1992 02:55:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, JALEIT01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (JASMINE) says:

>I believe this is how the "Legend of the Lamp" goes.  This is mostly from
>repeated listening to "Legend" off the CD, and memory.  I'm just assuming that
>this is what you're talking about.
>
>"Ahhhh.   Salmon and good evening to you worthy friend(s?)."


Salmon?  Salaam, perhaps.  I'd say that the topic had very little to
do with fresh water fish.

No wisecracks about salami, please.
-- 
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		      ** Wise men still seek Christ. ** 
  "Perhaps we would have more power if Engineer Scott  |    My boss is a 
      connected your mouth to a generator, Doctor."    |  Jewish carpenter.
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: WDW Christmas
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:24:15 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

(From the WDW Eyes & Ears)
 
 >   Did you notice that the Walt Disney World Resort Complex turned
 > almost overnight into a magical winter wonderland? It seemed that
 > Santa's elves were busy into the wee hours trimming trees, hanging
 > wreaths and draping garland. But there's more to this story than
 > meets the eye. Santa's elves were really some of our very own Cast
 > Members.
 
 >   While many of us were melting in the Florida sun last July,
 > several Parks Cast Members had already begun the preparations for
 > the 1992 Christmas season. They worked in a 15,000 square foot
 > warehouse among hundreds of thousands of Christmas paraphernalia.
 > The Cast Members from Parks Show Properties and Interiors decorated
 > 75 trees for the Guest and Cast Member areas, including 2 50-ft
 > Castle trees and the 80 foot tree for Town Square in the Magic
 > Kingdom. The decorations are also used for special holiday events
 > including Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Parade, Candlelight, and
 > the Cast Member Christmas Party.
 
 >    It takes more than just the Parks team to complete the holiday
 > picture.  Resorts has their own warehouses and a staff of Santa's
 > helpers to transform the hotels into a seasonal delight!

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From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Houba!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:25:12 GMT
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Previously on r.a.d. I've seen talk of the Marsupilami, well here is
more info from the 12/10 Eyes & Ears..
 
>   In the past, The Walt Disney Company has aquired many existing
> "outside" characters -Mr Toad, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, Pooh,
> and even Roger Rabbit- which have been skillfully developed to become
> part of the Disney family.  Now there's a new character who is poised
> to race through our company, leaving a trail of infectious fun,
> innocent adventure, and joyous curiosity; all on the way to becoming
> a part of the Disney legacy- Marsupilami!
 
>   What's a Marsupilami?  Well, according to Webster: A one of a kind
> creature with an unusually long tail, identifiable by his distinctive
> yellow fur with black spots, known principally for his versatility
> and ability to make people smile.  Initially found in France and
> Belgium, now becoming familiar worldwide.
 
>  Truthfully, Marsupilami is a fun-loving new arrival to North
> America, whose distinctive look, talented tail, fast pace and fresh
> stream-of-consciousness commentary transcend all age barriers.
> Marsupilami is filled with curiosity, innocence and naivete, which
> results in fresh and funny observations about the people, places and
> events around him.
 
>   Disney aquired the worldwide rights to the character in 1990, and
> plans are currently in development to introduce Marsupilami
> domestically and re-launch his successful career in Europe.
 
>   Marsupilami's tail is a major part of his versatile personality.
> Through seemingly endless manipulations of his tail, Marsu can
> swing, bounce, jump rope, surf, ski- his ability is limited only by
> his imagination.
 
>   Marsupilami is also known for his "Houba!".  Over the years,
> characters have become by their exclamations -Fred Flintstones's
> Yabba-dabba-doo, Charlie Brown's "Good grief".  Marsu's "Houba!" is
> different, because it can express almost anything -curiousity, joy,
> anger, fear, and even romance.
 
>   Disney Afternoon fans may have already seen Marsu on a series of
> "bumpers" aired between programs.  The new Sat morning series "Raw
> Toonage" (11:30 am, CBS) gives Marsupilami a six minute adventure
> each week.
 
>   Future plans include his own fan magazine, a feature each month
> in "Disney Adventures"  (Collector's note: Feb issue will include a
> cover and feature story about Marsu), a walk-around character for
> the theme parks and Marsupilami merchandise on the shelves in April.

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From: amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Subject: Re: I'm going to Disneyland!
Keywords: REQUEST for Disneyland hours
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:53:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.180514.3533@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
>Like the Subject: line and the .sig say . . . .
>Anyway, I'm surprised nobody's done this yet...

Does copying count?  :-)  (Yes, I'm going sometime during my trip home for the
holidays, but not sure when.  It's more fun when it's done on a lark!  See
ya'll around!)
---
"Congratulations, Amberle, you've just finished the first of many years towards
your Ph.D!  What-are-you-gonna-do-now?

"I'M GOING TO DISNEYLAND!"

Amberle Ferrian		<amberle@epx.cis.umn.edu>
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From: bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: guaranteed admittance? (WDW)
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:22:56 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

My fiance and I are planning our honeymoon for next June, having just won
a free trip to Orlando sometime in the next year (yeah!).  In order to
take advantage of the free airfare, we are required to stay in one of
four hotels (their choice, not ours, although we do get to say which
of the four we prefer).  Obviously, we want to go to the Disney parks
while we're there. 

We heard on Genie that if the parking lots fill up, people who are not
staying on site (in one of the resorts) are refused admittance and those
who are staying on site are guaranteed admittance?  Is this true?

Also, what is the "high" season and "low" season for Orlando?  By going
the first weekend in June, will we be right in the middle of one or the
other?

Beth



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From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "Apple Lady" Lockner)
Subject: Re: Disney University
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:21:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.101422.21290@npal.rn.com> cthomas@npal.rn.com writes:
>Has anyone ever heard of a Disney University?  If so could you tell me
>what they offer or how to get in?
>                                CHUCKBILL


Disney University is located to the right of Disneyland's Main Entrance,
in the administration buildings.  It consists of 2 or 3 small lecture 
rooms with video screens.  Sorry, Chuckbill- it's the name for the
orientation program for new Disneyland Cast Members.  Perhaps you're
thinking of Walt's animations prep school, CalArts.


-Denise
********
"If you can't say something nice...don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

DISNEY UNIVERSITY CLASS OF '92
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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: All them voices (i.e. Other roles) Please Read
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:12:06 GMT

Not that long ago I saw on rec.arts.startrek something which should be a
great idea for this group: the "Other Roles FAQ".  This listed each
actor, what roles they had in Star Trek, what other roles they had in
TV, films, stage productions, and so on.  Understandably it was quite
long, but it did cut all those questions about "What else has
such-and-such done apart from so-and-so ?"

So who's interested in a rec.arts.disney Other Roles FAQ?  If you are,
then send me *any* information, no matter *how* obvious it is, to me
at this account (quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au), stating:

Actor's name
The role the actor has been in, including:
  Title of production
  Type of production (film, TV series, Album, Play, Musical, etc)
  Year of production (if known - a guess will do, but say it is a guess)
  Name of character played
  Anything else you think is a good idea.

Even information that you wrote in the Question - Voices thread, because
I've undoubtedly forgotten most of it.
I'll collect all the information I'm sent and post it to the group on a
regular basis.

Just to get you started, here are a few names:

Rene Auberjonois
  (saw him in Star Trek VI last night - hard to imagine him as a French
chef . . .)
Christopher Daniel Barnes
Jodi Benson
Robby Benson
John Candy
Jesse Corti
Eva Gabor
Buddy Hackett
Nigel Hawthorne
Billy Joel
Angela Lansbury
Cheech Marin
Jason Marin
Kenneth Mars
Bette Midler
Bob Newhart
Paige O'Hara
David Ogden Stiers
Jerry Orbach
George C. Scott
Tristan Rogers
Will Ryan
Adam Ryen
Richard White
Robin Williams
JoAnne Worley
Ben Wright
Samuel Wright

Hope to hear lots from yawl.

Tim Pickett

ps Monash Uni will be shut from Christmas Eve until the New Year,
so anything you send after Wednesday will take a while in your getting a
reply.
From: speters@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin: Soundtrack and 'Legend of the Lamp'
Date: 10 Dec 92 22:09:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
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In article <1g4cdpINNc3t@agate.berkeley.edu> genie@soda.berkeley.edu (Jeannie Yang) writes:
>>Second question: What *exactly* is he saying in that? It's hard to make out
>>a couple words. 'Right by the river _____'. Huh?
>
>	Where's that line from?  I listened to my soundtrack three times,
>and still cannot find "Right by the river _____".  Hmmm... perhaps someone
>else can help us out here.

If it's the line I think it is, it's after the bit about Agraba being
a city filled with mystery, and romance, and...

"...and the finest merchandise this side of the river Jordan - on sale
today! C'mon down ..." 

Stephen Peters
Oracle Sun SBU
I don't speak for Oracle.  Who would speak for an oracle?
From: timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Lea Salonga
Followup-To: rec.arts.theatre
Date: 17 Dec 1992 22:16:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu
Keywords: CD, Lea Salonga


I think it's time to move this thread over to rec.arts.theatre.

--Tim

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From: VBCSC03L@VAX.CSUN.EDU (snopes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney on ice: League OKs Anaheim hockey team
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:54:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


                Disney on ice: League OKs Anaheim hockey team
   
      In a surprise, Walt Disney Co. received a conditional expansion franchise
   for a professional hockey team in Anaheim to complement its local theme park
   complex and as a source of programming for its KCAL-TV in Los Angeles.
   
      The Burbank-based conglomerate agreed to pay $50 million for the National
   Hockey League franchise, although the deal has several contingencies.  One
   is that the Los Angeles Kings -- who have right to the Los Angeles area --
   approve an Anaheim team.  An NHL press release said Thursday that the kings
   will receive part of the $50 million fee and also quoted Kings owner Bruce
   McNall welcoming Disney.  There were reports McNall is seeking a total
   package of $30 million from Disney.
   
      Wall Street, while surprised at the Disney move, did not feel the NHL
   deal will have a big financial impact on Disney, which is a $7.5 billion
   revenue conglomerate.  "I don't think this would have a meaningful impact
   for a while," said Jessica Reif, analyst with Oppenheimer & Co.
   
      The Disney team would play in the new, 19,200 seat arena now under
   construction in Anaheim by the city.  Disney also owns the Disneyland theme
   park in Anaheim and has proposed a $3 billion expansion of its Anaheim
   complex.
   
      Disney's NHL franchise is also contingent on getting sufficient advance
   ticket sales to demonstrate local support, which is a routine NHL
   requirement.
   
      "We are developing a number of concepts to capitalize on synergies
   between a hockey team and various Disney businesses," Disney chairman and
   CEO Michael Eisner said in a statement.  We believe these would benefit the
   (NHL) and help promote hockey as a major international sport."
   
      DIsney released sleeper hit "The Mighty Ducks" about a pee-wee hockey
   team, which prompted Eisner to joke to the Associated Press: "Whenever I
   suggest the title the Mighty Ducks, six people tell me no hockey player will
   play for that team.  The trouble is, if we don't win in the first three or
   four years, we might be called the Unmighty Ducks -- or worse."
   
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From: pyramus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Brooks Meador)
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid rated X???
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 08:49:49 GMT

the little mermaid is filled with phallic symbols.  one of the professors here actually gives a lecture on the entire phallic nature.  there's a lot more than just the genital on the poster.  

the main symbol is ursulla and her quest to become male.  she has eight limp appendages, and constantly strives to attain triton's long, hard rod that shoots things out.  once she gets this, she expands in size, and is finally destroyed by being penetrated by an even larger phallus.  its quite entertaining to watch the whole movie from this perspective.  you should all try it.

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From: pepke@scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke)
Subject: Re: guaranteed admittance? (WDW)
Organization: Florida State University, but I don't speak for them
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:11:23 GMT

In article <1giqf0INNkg7@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth 
Schwindt) writes:
> My fiance and I are planning our honeymoon for next June, having just won
> a free trip to Orlando sometime in the next year (yeah!).  In order to
> take advantage of the free airfare, we are required to stay in one of
> four hotels (their choice, not ours, although we do get to say which
> of the four we prefer).

I strongly suggest that you invest fifty bucks and get an attorney to look 
over your documents very, very carefully.  There is a popular scam that 
works like this, where in order to qualify for the "free" airfare, you 
have to contract to stay at a particular hotel or resort.  Usually there 
are pictures to show how nice the hotel is.  Once you arrive at the hotel, 
you find out that it's a fleabag motel, and you are being way overcharged, 
but there's nothing you can do about it because you have already signed 
the contract.  The company winds up making more money on the package deal
than if you had just paid for the airfare and reasonable hotel bills 
yourself.  It would be a real kick in the teeth to have something like 
this happen on your honeymoon.  Orlando, Florida just could be the scam 
capital of the known world.  It's too bad, but that's the way it is.

Of course, it is also possible that your deal is perfectly legitimate and 
above board.  The only person who can tell the difference for sure is an 
attorney.  (In spite of my .sig, I do think that lawyers can be useful,
if they're on your side.)

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