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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:12:44 EST
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: The burning fiery furnace

*** Resending note of 01/07/93 18:16

>Attic fans are rare these days.  I loved them back in the pre-a/c days.

There not rare here in Tampa.

Don, whose homes in Tampa have always had large attic fans.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:38:34 EST
From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nuclear
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Hello everyone.

Jimmy Carter and I believe Ike were famous for (among other
things) pronouncing nuclear as nucular. Why do people do this?
Because no English words contain the consonant cluster /kl/.
I mean words from the vocabulary of Old English, not
derivatives from other languages. Not that /kl/ is impossible
for us to pronounce (it remains intact at word beginnings);
inserting a vowel simply anglicizes the foreign sound.

Bill
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 13:07:51 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Croning Plans
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>    Ordinarily, I don't challenge the List Goddess when she makes a
>    pronouncement like this  -- "looks like all the other national
>    parkways", "lacks the beauty of the mountains".  Well, maybe I won't
>    challenge her now either. But she's wrong, wrong, wrong, God bless
>    her soul.

Be more specific.  Describe its differences.  It may be that I'm overlooking
something.  I do remember a discussion at my party on Dec. 20 of routes to
N.O. during which somebody suggested the Natchez Trace since Judith had
never been on it.  I said, "But there's nothing particularly interesting
or pretty about the Trace."  The reply was that perhaps I was so used to
it that I didn't realize that it might be interesting to somebody who had
never been on it.  (I've been on part of it hundreds of times since it
used to be the main route between here and Jackson.)  Judith and I did take
the Trace route to Jackson the next day.  (Hmmm.  When I typed that, all
I could think of was 'traceroute uga.cc.uga.edu' -- a command I sometimes
use to check on where the problem is if we're cut off from UGA.)  Did you
find the Natchez Trace in any way interesting, Judith?  The fog and drizzle
that day didn't do much to enhance the beauty, of course.

And speaking of computer commands, is there a way to grep a whole directory?
I'm trying not to bother Frank with such questions since I think he's still
pretty busy with Ra's veins and arteries.  In other words, could I grep for
a string in all of /docs/words-l/Archives, which includes the individual
daily-log files?  I have a feeling that the answer is no.  Somebody needs
to write a program for Unix like Norton's TS.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Graham Toal
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Subject: Re: London Bridge
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:Wow! I almost never cry while watching movies, can't remember the last
:one where I did.  I'm too cynical and see thro' the glycerine!  I used

:-rashmi, hard-hearted words-ler

No, just not another maudlin American.  The shallowness of some of these
people scares me at times.  No wonder their government finds it so easy
to manipulate them.

G
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:27:51 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boston
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> But I will post the recipe for the salmon pancakes, if anyone
> wants it.

Yes!
  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:17:23 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Who Said...

"rumours of my demise are greatly exagerated" ?  I may even have the
wording wrong, but you know the one I mean but can't remember.

Tony H.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:52:20 EST
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Rush Limaughisms

> Some high-tack from Rush Limgaugh. Monday he yowled about how Carol
> Mosely Braun (new Illinois senator) was the first welfare queen elected
> to the senate (ain't sublte racism grand?). Today, he was yowling some
> more behind the theme song to The Jefferson's ("Movin' up").
>
> Mencken was right--nobody ever went broke underestimating the
> intelligence of the U.S. public.....(his book is still on the NYT best
> seller list....maybe 'cause he thinks environmentalism is "just a
> bunch of crap"---it's folly, he says (and sacreligious?) to think
> that "man" can fuck up "god's work."
>
> Jim (in despair) Thomas

Gee, you're picking on my favorite radio talkshow host.  I think I'm
probably at least as leftwing as Jim, but I have to admit something: I
find Limbaugh fascinating.  That brings in the metaphors:

"As facinating as....

        - watching two dogs fucking
        - watching a car wreck
        - the life of Hitler
        - a public execution...."

All of the above.  Maybe I envy Limbaugh his blithe self-confidence,
seemingly untouched by any trace of having lived or had his opinions
ever left out in the open air.  What I think gets most to me is the
tone of conscienceless satisfaction at a wholly unexamined life: the
overt woman-hating masked behind referrals to "FemiNazis," the
patronizing masquerading as politeness, the comments about his talent
being on loan from God, talking to the audience with half his brain
tied behind his back, etc.  I am one of those dour, humorless Liberals
who doesn't think Rush is kidding or being "an entertainer" when he
comes out with this crap: I think he is entirely serious but is making
it sound as though he IS kidding lest he scare of his legions of
Dittoheads in Rio Linda, California.  He sits on a national hookup
five days a week and snipes at all the easy targets--blacks,
homosexuals, women, Pro-Choicers, any and all liberals--with a nasty,
Olympian disdain for groups and people would dare challenge some sort
of fraudulent Natural Order that he sees embodied in whatever he
thinks of as Conservatism: Whatever Is, Is Right.  This is the kind of
man who would mock not just Bill Clinton--who is fair game--or even
Hillary Clinton, who would probably be insulted if she were NOT
attacked, but also Chelsea Clinton, a 12-year-old girl, and on the
basis of her APPEARANCE.  Ha-ha, Rush....  I hope you choke to death
on your next overstuffed sandwich.

Is this "fair"?  No.  Maybe I can get my own talk show....

Ken
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 11:52:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: WORDS-L TP: Progress report
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> JMW
> [How's come I know everyone else's answers but not my own?  Whyzzat, Giggles?]

That's because you and I, STS, go together like a horse and carriage.
--ggs
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:16:39 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Copacetic (etc) again
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  For some reason I hadn't looked up "copacetic" in the Bloomsbury Dictionary
of Contemporary Slang. The editor remarks


       This bizarre word has rarely been written down [apparently
       contrary to Natalie's impression], but was recorded as early
       as 1919. Attempts have been made to derive it from Latin,
       Yiddish or even Amerindian roots, but its true origin is
       unknown. It has not crossed the Atlantic in its comparatively
       long history.
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: The burning fiery furnace
Date: 5 Jan 1993 05:14:48 GMT
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In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>
>Way down here in Texas we don't have cellars, so if the furnace is not in
>a small closet kind of space it is in the attic, as ours is.  The vents
>are on the wall near the ceiling or in the ceiling itself.

Yecch - and inefficient as all get-out, no doubt.  Around here, most houses
have basements.  The ones that do, keep their furnaces down there.  The
ones built on slabs have them in those fake closet thingies.  Except in a
few Victorian or other relatively old [for the US] houses, the heating vents
are all in the floor or along the baseboard.  The central air ducts, if there
are any, tend to be up near or in the ceiling, though.
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:53:33 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Words-L Weekly Digest
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              11 Jan 93 20:52:05 -0600. <9301120253.AA12866@sics.se>

  Tushar reveals my prize:

  >"Torky worky you *sweet* little tomato you"?

  Thanks, now there's no need for Giggles to send it. Pretty revolting, to
be sure.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:20:35 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: The burning fiery furnace
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              05 Jan 93 06:04:18 -0600. <9301051211.AA03670@sics.se>

   >When I was growing up, it was not at all uncommon to see
   >an outdoor "storm cellar," particularly out in the country...a wooden door
   >fitted into the side of a little slope or mound as entrance to a dugout
   >area where people sheltered from tornados.

  As in The Wizard of Oz (the movie). I saw a recent sequel on TV the
other night, and it was surprisingly good. Quite creepy beginning,
with Dorothy about to undergo electroshock therapy to rid her of her
fantasies.
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:45:30 GMT
From:         Graham Toal
              <gtoal%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info
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:Good point.  That means that you really don't need to mail me the disk,
:Giggles, even though the thought of your disk in my box is pleasing.
:   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Say, have I ever explained the correct use of 'fnarr fnarr' to you guys? :-)

G
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:52:05 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Words-L Weekly Digest

>>This *blows* my *mind*!!!!  What could be worse than being left out
>>of brad's Weekly Digest?????  *What*???  I challenge anyone on this
>>list to name *one* thing that is worse.  Just *one* *thing*!!!!!
>
>  Being <giggled> at until one collapses screaming.
>  Do I win a prize?

Actually, the correct form is "being <giggl>ed at". (Until one goes
insane.)

I wonder why Torkel even wants a prize. Is it a very good feeling to
read "Torky worky you *sweet* little tomato you"?

tushar
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:43:08 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The whole nine yards (revisted)
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Btw, the person who asked the question about "the whole nine yards"
unsubbed from the list almost immediately -- right after Graham's helpful
reply was posted.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:41:04 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: WORDS-L TP: Gilbert's Entertainment Question
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        >         will guess that it is===================>
        >
        > Is that some sort of phallic smiley?
        >
        > G

        Depends on who's smiling.  Make that
              ===================================================>
        --ggs (not to be <outdone>......)

Fizzy, that's your cue...

G
:-)<=w=m=8
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:07:50 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: WORDS-L TP: Mka's Geography Question

>"What's the world's deepest land gorge?"

Sorry for the delay--gremlins are doing work on the VAX over the holidays here.
Access is <iffy).

This is the typical TP question that penalizes people who know more than the
folks who put the game together.

There are three claimants, I believe:
     Colca Canyon in Peru
     Kali Gandhaki River Gorge in Nepal
     Hell's Canyon right here in merry old NA.

I'll go with Kali Gandhaki River Gorge, since I've seen it with my own baby
blues, and protest any answer the card gives to the contrary.

Lit next please

-K

-Mka
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:47:05 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Baseball
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Posted on 12 Jan 1993 at 10:35:25 by torkel@SICS.SE
>     >The only self-respect I
>     >see here is that R doesn't feel right about hitting the guy without
>     >physical* provocation.  So he baits the bad guy until he takes a
>     >swing at our hero, whereupon R can beat the shit out of him in
>     >self-defense.'
>  This doesn't make sense in the context of the book since the alternative
>mentioned is "getting out without being seen".

I don't know, this makes sense to me.  I think it's that old idea "A man's
gotta do what a man's gotta do."  R has two alternatives:  to get into a
fight, or escape w/ out being seen.  And some days, you just feel like
getting into a fight.  You hit that ball right down the middle, KNOWING
what the result will be, but that ball is so beautiful anyway.  And
there's a certain perverse satisfaction when this ball, which you have
*given* to the batter, is hit w/ a resounding smack.

I was not going to comment on this, because I thought it was a 'men's
thing'.  Guess not.

Karen
really a man in disguise
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Date: 9 Jan 1993 22:28:07 GMT
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In a previous article, MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA (Peter Montgomery) says:

>From: "Ruth M. Hanschka" <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
>> Go crawl into your coffin, Ausbrook; it'll save someone else the work.
>
>I second the emotion.
>Pm
If you've got the notion, we could play old Smokey tracks on a boom box
and dance on the grave....  And maybe some Porter, for Giggles?  We could
stomp the dirt down some.

-- 
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:38:19 +1100
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Susan's Sport/Leisure Question
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>Well, I'll say Geneva...
>
>-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------

I wish you hadn't...... what you should have said was St. Moritz. That's the
Swiss town where two Winter Olympics have been held. I thought you might have
gotten that one.... oh well! :-(

Carolyn
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka) writes:
>> Playgirl? Playgirl is for cowards! Karsten, I hear them playing your music.
> What's he got?  Leather magazines?:-)  I've always preferred GQ and Details
> to Playgirl anyway...as well as certain Absolut ads....

Would you like the same magazine I sent abh and dan?  There is an
Absolut ad on the back cover...

--karsten

(And an ad for the "How to Female Ejaculate" video inside the front
 cover)
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In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>I just set DIET and WORDS-L nomail....for the same reason as last month...
>
>last nite my eye that has been fixed twice blew to hell again....saw doctor
>this afternoon....i have about ten percent vision at most now, and getting
>worse....rest is all black....
>
Oh shit, potatoman!  Just wish there was something I could do to help!
Like go grab my father's staplegun and put the darned thing *back*, for
instance.:-(  Shit shitshitshitshit.....  <broken record mode | on>
And I thought I had problems....
>
>hugs to all....more as it happens....film at 1100  (or 2300 for those who
>   prefer it that way)
back atcha, if you see/hear this...

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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:40:17 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dinner at Grand Nepalese
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Posted on 7 Jan 1993 at 06:59:05 by Anne Burton Harwell

>And Tony, the guy in the hat actually remembered you, or made a darn good
>show of acting as if he did ;-).

He claimed to remember us the second time we were there (after a two
year absence).  I suspect he is a pretty good actor, though.
Glad you liked it.  Is eating with a kukri easier than with chopsticks?  ;-)

Tony H.
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 10:51:38 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: London Bridge
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Oh dear.  I'm now depressed thinking about that old dead gray goose...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:56:45 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How to make me cringe...
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> mind you, that "nu-cu-ler" was how (geez, how embarrassing; I can't
> remember who was Prez) Truman? said it.  I know it wasn't Ike, so I'll take
> Truman for $500 please, Alex.  So, how he said it on t.v. was how a
> kajillion people learned to mispronounce it.

Jimmy Carter said "nucular."
  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:29:10 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject: Re: London Bridge
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              at Jan 10, 93 6:17 pm

Karen:
> I went to see "Beaches" w/ 2 friends who won't go to the movies w/ me again.
> I sobbed so loudly they moved away from me in the theater.

Wow! I almost never cry while watching movies, can't remember the last
one where I did.  I'm too cynical and see thro' the glycerine!  I used
to cry while reading some books when I was a kid, though, and had to be
very careful to make sure that my brother didn't catch me doing it.
He'd tease me mercilessly for weeks after.

-rashmi, hard-hearted words-ler
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>         Depends on who's smiling.  Make that
>               ===================================================>
>         --ggs (not to be <outdone>......)
>
> Fizzy, that's your cue...
>
> G
> :-)<=w=m=8

Who is this Fizzy and where is s/he when needed?
--ggs
:--( <====w=m===w=m===8
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:21:13 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Unusual weddings
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We didn't choose the bar as the place we most wanted to get married.  It
just sort of happened.  My at-that-time husband -- no, wait -- he was at
that time my about-to-be-husband -- had a thing against "real" weddings. He
called an acquaintance who was an ordained minister, albeit an unpracticing
one, and asked him how long it would take to do the stuff like blood tests
and marriage license getting, the preacher acquaintance said it would take
a few days, he asked where preacher acquaintance would be a few days later,
he said he would be tending bar at The Golden Horn and would be glad to
perform the ceremony.  So we went by there shortly before the bar (which was
mainly a restaurant) opened that night, stood at the bar, and got married.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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On Tue, 5 Jan 1993, Anne Burton Harwell wrote:

> Congratulatios, Susan. You may now pass straight to Berkeley, do not pass
> Go, do not collect two hundred dollars.
>
> My nomination for politically-corect bilgewater of Words-L for 1993.

Of all the responses I expected from this posting, being called
"politically correct" was certainly not one of them.  Don't ever change,
Pig.

As far as bilgewater nominations go, I think I'll save mine -- I'm sure
*somebody* will come up with something better (or should I say worse) than
my humble little effort.

> -abh

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
-----amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu--------------The University of Texas @Austin---
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