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From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: GS IRC
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
	<1992Sep8.022253.10647@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:12:41 GMT

Ian> == Ian Schmidt <irsman@iastate.edu> 

 Ian> As for IRC access, santafe.santafe.edu is now your best bet...its
 Ian> faster than bradenville by quite a large margin.

Problem #1: santafe is on a faster machine but is on a muuuuuuch slower
link.

Problem #2: Alot of people can compile their own clients and not need to
use a telnet client at all. Clients are about 300k, and even less if
stripped. Here's some information on how to ftp them:

UNIX client-> cs.bu.edu /irc/clients
	      plod.cbme.unsw.edu.au
	      nic.funet.fi pub/unix/irc
	      ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de pub/net/irc
	      slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com
	      there is also a client avaliable with the server code.
EMACS elisp-> cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/elisp
	      nic.funet.fi
              ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
	      slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com
EMACS elisp "irchat"->  cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/elisp
                        lehtori.cc.tut.fi:/pub/irchat
			nic.funet.fi:/pub/irchat
VMS ->        cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/vms
	      coombs.anu.edu.au
REXX client for VM->    cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/rxirc
                        ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de pub/irc/rxirc
MSDOS->         cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/msdos
                freebie.engin.umich.edu:/pub/irc/clients/MSDOS

Macintosh->     cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/macintosh
                sumex-aim.stanford.edu /info-mac/comm


	It's usually best to try and connect to one geographically
close, even though that may not be the best. You can always ask when you
get on irc. Here's a list of servers avaliable for connection:
		csd.bu.edu
		ucsu.colorado.edu
                badger.ugcs.caltech.edu
		ug.cs.dal.ca
		nic.funet.fi
                vesuv.unisg.ch
		coombs.anu.edu.au
		sunsystem2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de

This is, by no means, a comprehensive list, but merely a start. 


If you need more help, feel free to send me email.

--Helen
irc admin, Boston University & California Institute of Technology



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kippley@cwis.unomaha.edu (Kip Kippley)
Subject: Re: Blackout Virus
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:45:23 GMT

The virus package in the Vitesse "Salvation Supreme" package is called:
"Exorcist". It is available as a stand alone package or the entire
Salvation Supreme runs about $99.

** Kip **

George "Kip" Kippley, AESC
Computer Systems, Inc.
2819 S. 125th Street
Suite 276
Omaha, NE  68144
(402) 330-3600 Ext. 266

Graduate Student
University of Nebraska at Lincoln
Administration/Curriculum and Instruction
Computer Technology

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From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Accelerator stuff
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:09:36 GMT

In article <mattd-140992122917@city-lights.apple.com> mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:

[ ]
>
>The TWGS's "AppleTalk/IRQ" option slows down to Control Panel speed (2.5 or
>1 MHz) whenever interrupts are disabled.  This has the advantage of making
>_all_ timing sensitive code work as advertised, because anyone writing
>timing-sensitive code knew they had to disable interrupts already.
>
>It might slow down somewhat, but it's a darn sight better than Zip's
>"AppleTalk delay" which slows the accelerator down about 30% of the time
>(5 ms for every interrupt, incluing the 60 Hz VBL interrupt, which means
>a minimum of 300 ms slowdown every second).  It also wouldn't have forced
>Apple to waste time rewriting the internal LocalTalk code to be speed
>dependent at 1 MHz instead of 2.5 MHz, requiring more patch memory on ROM
>3 and time that could have been spent on more productive things.
>
>(And no, ZipTalk alone or the code I wrote that did the same thing and
>sent to Zip a long time ago wouldn't have fixed it -- LocalTalk has to
>send a "clear to send" packet as soon as it sees a "ready to send"
>packet, and that's all done in the interrupt handler without dispatching
>to the LAPRead or LAPWrite commands -- and patching out the interrupt
>vector to slow down before doing it is not supportable or feasible due
>to extreme AppleTalk timing constraints.)

Hmm...before System6.0, I used ziptalk on the GS on an Appletalk network.
The GS has a 10/64k Zip GS in it and all worked fine. With System 6.0 I
was able to remove ziptalk and still get my GS to work fine on Locatalk
virtually all the time( odd times where things failed had to do with 
termination and/file types giving out of bound errors). This also worked
with PublicFolder GS by the way.

Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple Stupidity (was Re: Where does ProDOS come from?)
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:36:49 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun Sep 13 92 at 23:19:09 (EST)

> From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
> (Suggestion to Andy Nicholas for the next version of ShrinkIt:  how
> about prohibiting the creation of disk archives of ProDOS disks?
> It'll prevent the terminal stupidity of some people who like to use
> disk archives for everything instead of file archives (which is what
> you should always use for ProDOS volumes).)

Getting rid of features from a utility program because some people decide to
abuse some of its features seems pretty silly to me.
 
Besides, prior to GS Shrinkit the ONLY way of handling forked files was via a
shrunk disk (Transprog was distributed this way, as were most other Cdevs).

Besides shrinking a disk includes the boot blocks of the disk...which can be
useful for those disks out of europe that can be read as prodos disks, but
have a bootstrap on the boot blocks that is different than that provided by
Apple. 
 
Currently only those disks that are bootable, in my opinion need to be shrunk
as disks. Things like ZZCopy, and various FTA demos, etc. 

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From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: .hp to laserwriter print
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 23:45:26 GMT

In article <m0mQaZ8-0000izC@crash.cts.com> kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:
>I'd guess that a ".hp file" is a file that is a HP Laserjet specific file
>needing you to dump it to a Laserjet or compatable. Unless your printer has an
>HP emulation mode (some of the Laserwriters do, I think) there isn't much
>you'll be able to do with it.

As far as I know, the new Personal LaserWriter NTR is the only Apple
laser printer that supports HP emulation...and if I'm not mistaken,
Computer Shopper reported that the HP emulation offered isn't 100%
bug-free.

Probably a better idea would be to search for a PostScript replacement
for that HP file...why the IBM/clone world had to make another
standard instead of using PostScript is one of the great mysteries of
the computing biz.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: meekins@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins)
Subject: Re: Woz certificates
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:28:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.163019.153005@zeus.calpoly.edu> carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt) writes:
>In article <id14186@pro-harold.cts.com> dcgreen@pro-harold.cts.com (David Green) writes:
>>Someone just told me that Apple sent certificates of authenticity to
>>registered owners of IIgs Woz Limited Edition models. Is that true? I 
>>never received one, if it is. Does that mean my Woz is a forgery? I also
>>have a second Woz that I bought used, and I didn't get one with it either.
>>
>Boy, I haven't thought of THAT in years. Got it right here... Still in
>the original envelope postmarked Mar 5'87. Sandwiched between 2 pieces
>of cardboard, with a letter from WOZ. Always meant to frame it and hang
>it.
>
>
>Chris

Odd, I never got a certificate....and I'm sure I sent in any registration
materials hat were included.

-tim
From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Accelerator Performance
Date: 12 Sep 92 15:02:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

********************* DEMPO Error Message ***********************
UNSENT MAIL!                            
NO NAME SPECIFIED!                      
From:	BITNET::INFO-APPLE@APPLE.COM
To:	
Subj:	Re: Accelerator Performance

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To:	
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:25:40 -0400 
From: Gregory Ross Thompson <gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Project Abstract...
Distribution: world

FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL ("ERIC S FORD") writes:
> I would certainly be willing to contribute to such an endeavor.  If enough 
> volunteers are identified perhaps we could divide up the subdirectories and 
> inventory/abstract the files piecemeal.  There are, however, several files 
> which do not contain a doc file nor even a description of what the 'ware is 
> supposed to do.  Any recommendation for how to deal with abstracting these?

  Well, you download the file and run iy.  From that you can at least
work up some kind of a description.  In many cases, you can even get
the author's name...

  I guess I'll toss in a hand if I've got the time (tick, tick,
tickin' in my head - Anthrax).

> forde@uvg.eglin.af.mil

		-Greg
		 InterNet: gregt+@cmu.edu
		       or: gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu
		 BITNet  : R746GT0T@CMCCVB
		 AOL     : GRThompson
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From: jdb8042@tamuts.tamu.edu (John Donald Baker)
Subject: ZIP CHip (was Re: Apple //e (enhanced) upgrades?)
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:59:09 GMT

I'm not particularly satisfied with the Zip Chip I just
received.

First, it sits up too high off the socket so that I can't plug
the card I run in Slot 3 of my //e (CardZ180) back in.

I decided to check it out without the CardZ180 installed.  I expected
it to couse trouble with the No-Slot Clock, so I was fooling around with
the <ESC> option to force slow mode on startup.  I hadn't even gotten to
the point where I could have gotten the config software up and running
when after a re-boot procedure, the chip flaked out on me.  All I get is
a screen full of inverse @'s and the checkerboard characters.  I hear the
little chirp from the speaker but nothing else.  OA-CTRL-RESET does nothing
except produce the little chirp for about the first three times I try it
then nothing.

Since I just received it, I will call Quality Computers (where I ordered it)
to try and get some satisfaction.

 I think what I REALLY want instead of the ZipChip is a genuine 65802.
Anyone know where I can get one of these chips?  The hardware/software
system I use would make that processor more advantageous than an
accelerator.  Remember, that's 'sixty-five EIGHT oh-two'.

Thanks for listening to my gripe.


John D. Baker  ->An Apple CardZ180 Z-System nut//
Internet:  JDB8042@{tamuts|rigel|sigma|summa|zeus|venus}.tamu.edu
           JDB8042@blkbox.com           jdbaker@taronga.com
UUCP:      nuchat!blkbox!jdb8042        ...!taronga!jdbaker
BBSs:  JOHN BAKER on Z-Node #45 [(713) 937-8886],
The Vector Board [(716) 544-1863], PIC of the Mid-Town [(713) 527-8939]
Karnage:  "Do not be the clever guy with ME!  You are not qualified!"
From: shaver@HUACHUCA-EMH7.ARMY.MIL (Mr John W Shaver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Addr: Apple Works
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:55:03 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I am using Appleworks Database to generate mailing labels. Everything seems to
work except that the device gives the printer an extra space or two at the
botttom of what would be a page (on a sheet of paper). Can someone help me get
away from this "feature"? Thanks

P. S. Please reply directly to me as I do not monitor INFO-APPLE.  Thanks
again

              John W. Shaver
     602 538 7622 // DSN 879 7622 // FTS 658 7622
     FAX 538 0656 // DSN 879 0656_// FTS 658 0656
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: scot@jlc.mv.com (Scot Salmon)
Subject: GSHK 1.0.6 - NASTY bug zapped my disk!
Organization: John Leslie Consulting, Milford NH
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:02:42 GMT

This may have already been posted a zillion times, but since I don't remember
it...

I found a very nasty bug in GSHK tonight. I had an archive on a disk (not
my HD) and GSHK on my HD. I double-clicked to archive to open it, which
worked fine. Turned out the archive contained a disk, so I took out of
of my spiffy new blank disks and told it to extract the archive onto
my 3.5" AppleDisk (what's the device...AppleDisk3.5A or something). Anyway,
it said, "Format this disk?" (because it was unformatted - a very reasonable
question, really), and I said, go ahead. A few moments later, it was
formatted. Now GSHK prompts me to put in the disk with the archive on it,
assumably so it can read the archive into memory. However, it doesn't
stop there; with no further prompting, it just starts writing to the
disk with the archive on it (overwriting the archive in the process)!

How annoying! And it couldn't even finish extracting, since it overwrote
itself and when it needed to read the next chunk, I didn't have it!

ARGH.

-- 
                                          - Scot Salmon (scot@jlc.mv.com)
From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Bug in StyleWriter driver?
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:45:29 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I'm finding a problem with my StyleWriter and Pointless. It seems when I
use different styles, such as Shadow, Bold etc. I get unusual results. 
One
time I typed "TrueLies" with the "True" in Bold and "Lies" in both Bold
and Shadow there was a large gap between the different styles, even when 
I
typed them as one word. I used the Times TrueType font with this. Bold
face typed stuff in TrueType doesn't look that much different from 
regular
faced stuff. All of this has been tried with AppleWorks GS, 
GraphicWrither
III, and WordWorks Pro with the same results. These things turn up OK on
an ImageWriter II, but not my StyleWriter. I've got a ROM 3 GS, with 5
megs of memory so it's not likely to be a memory problem. Any help would
be appreciated, and if it's a bug in the StyleWriter driver a fix would 
be
appreciated. Also being able to print in "Landscape" would be an 
important
addition to the next version of the StyleWriter drivers.
 
Herbert Fung                    | "Hard work doesn't make miracles,
Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |         The Herbster! 1988


Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Help with Epson and GS/OS (was Re: Epson-compatible printers are icky... NOT)
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:16:58 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed Sep 09 92 at 15:27:43 (EST)

> From: seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah)
> I've been having trouble getting GS/OS to coexist with my printers.
> Currently, I have a Panasonic KXP-1124i printer running off of an ancient
> Grappler+ interface card.  Drivers installed are BurgerBill's Grappler
> driver (thank goodness for that) and the Epson compatible driver.
> I've tried the various paper sizes...doesn't appear to make a difference.
> Do applications just assume that everything is 72dpi and screw the Epson's
> different rez graphics printing?  Help!  Help!

Um. Due to the way you've stated it I assume you are using the Apple Epson
driver. You might try the Harmonie printer drivers, as I have found they pay
better attention to the real pixel size of the printer. 

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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: EPROMer for the //
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:34:57 GMT

ferret@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Brendan Hoar) writes:

>Hey, if Soenke doesn't come up with his EPROMMER system pretty soon...  :)

Umm ... *guilty look*. It sits beside me, and I have already programmed quite
some EPROMs with it ... it works like a charm. Things that hold me back:
- The exchange rate of the Dollar. I would have to request payment in DM.
  Yuck.
- How the heck do I word that "contract"? I am not good at such things.

Any and all suggestions welcome :)

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Accelerator Performance
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:54:58 GMT

isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:
>	32k is a good cache size for 8mhz.  Remember to get fast cache
>ram chips otherwise ur accelerator will be bottlenecked by the cache.

  This is incorrect.  If the cache isn't fast enough, the accelerator simply
won't function.

  For 9MHz I still have 70ns chips.
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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Hard Drive problems, Low Level format didn't help!
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:48:05 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany

fsemm@acad3.alaska.edu (Edward M. Moore) writes:

[Description of re-appearing bad blocks on SyQuest cartridge]

>salvagable data (everything but shoebox) on another cartridge.  Now, then, is
>my current cartrage unuable, considering that a low-level format didn't even
>help?  Is there anything I can do at this point besides tossing the $70
>cartrige?

You can. As the mechanism does not seem to put the bad blocks into its bad
blocks table automatically (perhaps it has none such feature, I would not
know), what you can do is wait until the errors occur, take ProSel-16,
and do a Bad Block Scan with Fix. ProSel will create a "Bad.Blocks" file
which you must not remove. This prevents GS/OS (or P8, for that matter)
from writing onto or reading from the bad blocks.

Of course, you could also create that file with a sector editor ... have
fun :)

Soenke
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From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: IIgs telecom programs...
Date: 9 Sep 92 06:41:04 GMT
Organization: Eastern Michigan University

In article <1992Sep8.223121.3034@news.iastate.edu> irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt) writes:
>TelCom probably has the best VT100 on IIgs, except one thing...when SCREEN 
>inits it really clobbers things until I Reset Emulation...small price to pay

AND except that it doesn't work with internal modems, like many GS comm
programs.  At least, it doesn't work with -my- internal modem.

Woe to GS owners with internal modems... alas we a stuck with ProTERM.
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From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  A little help pleeze..
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:14:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

The card with the Z80 on it is a CP/M co-processor card - You can run Apple
CP/M on it!  I've never played w/Apple CP/M and can provide no other help.

On the memory question.  You PROBABLY have 48k unless there is a card in
slot 0 with eight 4116 RAM chips, in which case you have 64k - without any
description of the other cards in your ][+, this is a best guess.  You may
have more.

Try CATALOG,D2 (the B: is a residual concept having to do with CP/M - Normal
Apple DOS/ProDOS references are by slot and drive, ie: CATALOG,S6,D1 etc.)

Marc "feeling like this is going to be a bad week" Wolfgram
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Bizarre IIGS system action
Summary: Having problems
Keywords: IIGS
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:46:05 GMT

My IIGS has been acting very strangely lately.  I'm pretty sure my
accelerator is the problem (TWGS 7 MHz, 8K cache), but want to know if anyone
else has these problems.

Sometimes when I start up, the drives all come on, the screen goes nuts, and
the system won't start.  I have to power down and wait a while before I can
start up.  Sometimes this happens ten or twenty times before the system will
start up.  Then I often run into this problem (which happens much more often):

The system starts to boot, then crashes into apparently random locations in
$00/Cxxx.  This will happen repeatedly, at different addresses... sometimes
even after powering down.

I also sometimes lose all 4Mb of memory in my GS-RAM + card, and get the
"GS/OS needs more memory than you have" message at boot time.

The first problem will sometimes happen while I'm using the machine, too.

These problems are getting more and more common, and are just starting to go
from a mild annoyance to really ticking me off.  I'd buy a Zip, but can't
afford it... :(

Any ideas?  I've had the TWGS for three years now.

- Eric S.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: tracadas@athena.mit.edu (Philip W Tracadas)
Subject: Re: Roger Wagner's 4megs
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:00:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.013709.24350@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz) writes:
>Three questions:
>
>	1> Where does one get this card?
>	2> How much does it cost?
>	3> What do you get for that price?
>

Roger Wagner is selling them is his new fall catalogue for $150!!  It's mail
order but I've had pretty good success with them before so this shouldn't be
bad.  I don't know addresses but can find them.

-phil

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