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From: lairdb@crash.cts.com
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Gun Solvent Substitutes
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:55:17 GMT
Organization: "Well, a head on top, an arm on each side, two legs...."

In <1992Oct13.205358.959@bbxrbk> bbx!bbxrbk!russ@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Russ Kepler) writes:
#Same as the brake cleaner.  Let's see:  I clean Glocks, SIGs and
#sundry other guns with synthetic parts with only the Marlin Camp
#Carbine showing any signs of plastic softening, and that only after
#letting a rag soaked with cleaner sit on the mag well made of plastic.
#Since then I've cleaned it a 1/2 dozen times with no problems at all.

#OK - here's the contents: 1,1,1 trichloroethane, perchloroethylene and
#carbon dioxide (likely as a propellant).  Nope, nothing flammable and
#identical to most of the gun cleaning sprays.

Not sure what the perchloroethylene does, but 111-tce is an excellent 
solvent.  Among it's other uses is cleaning flux of PC boards.  It
also evaporates quite quickly, and pretty cleanly.  I wouldn't advise
using it on any non-metal without a swatch test, though.  You can 
find it at a good chemical supply house for (vague memory) about $20
for 5 gallons (you may pay more for the 5 gallon drum than for the
contents.)  Disposing of it is theoretically tricky, although most 
places I've seen pour the dirty stuff into an open drum, and then
are just amazed when it seems to have evaporated some time later.
(Often taking the paint on any nearby objects with it.)

Remember not to wash your tritium sights, kids.

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From: jheath@fieldofdreams.npirs.purdue.edu (Jim Heath)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: NAvy Seals and Barett Sights
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:23:46 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University

#From article <9210112003.AA00972@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, by jimfost@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jim Foster):
# miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:
# 
# 
# #Anyone remember the movie that came out a few years back about a couple
# #of LA cops who flew this ultra-modern helicopter? I can't think of the name
# #right now, but at the beginning of the movie there is a disclaimer that
# #says "the weapons and technology depicted in this film are real and in use
# #today" or something to that effect. Ay any rate, in the film there was a
# #scene that showed the cops eaves-dropping on some "bad guys" inside a building.
# #I also seem to remember them showing some sort of "sight" that also showed
# #"images" of men as they moved behind a wall.
# #Anyone else remember this movie, or any more details?
# 
# The movie in question is _Blue Thunder_ starring Roy Scheider and ....er, someone else.
# This film was also the basis of a short-lived TV series, one of the multitude of 'super-vehicle' series that were so popular in the mid-Eighties. I have no idea whether the technology was/is real or not, but it seemed far fetched at the time...expecially the 'stelath mode' on the helocpoter.
#

The series had Dick Butkiss (sp?) and Bubba Smith.
Unfortunately, Airwolf was on at about this same time... 
-- 
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From: mcgillis@pooh.sdd.trw.com (J. Mcgillis)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Gun shows in S. Cal
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:54:27 GMT
Organization: TRW, Inc.

Can someone please tell me whether, and where, there are any gun shows
scheduled in southern California in the near future?

Thanks,

Jack
-- 

				Jack McGillis
			mcgillis@pooh.sdd.trw.com
From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: MASSACHUSETTS MACHINE GUN GREEN CARD
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:15:09 GMT
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma

In article <1992Oct12.001438.28491@athena.mit.edu> sybok@athena.mit.edu (The Rifleman) writes:
#Does anyone out there have a Massachusetts Machine Gun Green Card, or
#know someone who does?  I'm interested in the qualifications that are
#typically required, or the best method to tickle the licensing authority
#into issuing one.  (We're not talking about MA LTC's, but strictly MG
#green cards.  Please list all requirements besides a LTC.)

The Massachusetts "Green Card" is the "License to Posess a Machine Gun".  It
may be issued by the local chief of police, and is required in addition to
meeting all federal requirements for full auto in the state of Massachusetts.
(ps: Silencers are illegal here except for licensed manufacturers, and I
believe sawed off shotguns are legal on a License to Carry providing federal 
requirements have been met).

Mass General Law provides only two reasons for issuance of such a license :

   (1) Trainer of law enforcement personel
   (2) Bona Fide gun collector.  The law states that the dept of public 
       safety shall publish a specification of what consititutes bona fide 
       colector status, though they have never done so. [ obtaining a
       "curios & collectibles" FFL *may* help establish yourself as a 
       collector ].

Nothing in the law REQUIRES the chief to issue a green card.  Massachusetts
courts are even more reluctant to override a chief's rejection of a green
card than they are to override a turndown for an unrestricted License to
Carry.  

One lady I know recently applied for a green card (having obtained a federal
collector's license just to establish herself as a collector).  The police
department which issued here an unrestricted LTC turned her down saying 
"Laurie - I don't want any machine guns in this town".  An attorney she
shoots with (a well established and very pro gun attorney - the one who
succussfully represented the Cambridge resident who was arrested for legal
posession of too many guns (>500) ) basically told her that appealing it was
not likely to be succussful, and he would charge her $3000 for representation
(this is the came atty who has succussfully fought the issunace of 
restrictive gun licenses in some towns).


Of course, if you get a green card, carrying machine guns is probably
a pretty good reason to get an unrestricted LTC.

A friend of mine in Sudbury, MA has a green card and is also federally
licensed as a class 3 dealer.  If you want, I can ask him for permission
to give out his fone number (he keeps a reasonably tight perimiter).


Rob Boudrie
rboudrie@chpc.org
From: wwarf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Wayne J. Warf)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Nonresident CCW
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:03:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: flubber.9210141250.AA17964
Organization: Indiana University

In article <9210131550.AA02893@pravda.webo.dg.com> googs@pravda.webo.dg.com (Joe Gugliemino) writes:
#
#I saw your article about getting out-of-state licenses.  If you have
#one, are you allowed to purchase in that state, or must sales still go
#through an FFL?  

A nonresident license does not allow you to purchase any firearms in
the licensing state that you could not otherwise purchase. 


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From: ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Gunning down children (was Children and toy guns...)
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:42:12 GMT
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <9210051903.AA26165@outmail.microsoft.com> davidst@microsoft.com (David Steckler) writes:
#
#Considering how many cops are gunned down by "children" each year, I don't
#see your argument as correct. Cops put their lives on the line each day
#with "kids" pointing _real_ guns at them. The cop who responded to the alarm
#at my wife's school _did_ put his life on the line by _not_ shooting the
#kid who pointed a gun at him.
#
#Maybe in some distant, golden past, when 9-year olds weren't running drug 
#deal interference, when there weren't drug-related drive by shootings at the
#suburban mall where I get my hair cut, maybe back then cops could assume
#that an armed child was actually carrying a toy, chuckle and show the kid
#the bullets on his belt. Nowdays, the officer is just as likely to see the
#kid's bullets, up close and personal.

Ooooh, media hype bites again. Just how many police officers are gunned
down by juveniles each year in the US? The last numbers I've seen shows
less than 200 officers killed (shot) in the line of duty from *all* felon 
age groups. In the state of Georgia, 2 peace officers have been shot and
killed in the last 2 years, neither by subteens. The number one and two 
causes of death and injury were car crashes and hand to hand scuffles 
involving knives and clubs. 

More firemen die in the line of duty each year than police, and people 
usually don't shoot at firemen. The most dangerous occupation in the US 
is farmer, and not a lot of kids are shooting at Old McDonald. You can't 
use the excuse that police work is dangerous, because it isn't compared 
to farming or coal mining or firefighting. It's not nearly as dangerous 
as being a civilian on the streets of Washington DC. Because he is 
authorized to use force in the line of duty, a police officer has a 
special responsibility of being *absolutely* sure force is necessary 
before shooting. If he gets shot at a few times in the process, that's 
why they issue bullet resistant vests.

Gary
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: NAvy Seals and Barett Sights
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:39:24 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, USA. -5 GMT

clochmul@nrambr.chem.duke.edu (C. H. Lochmuller) writes:

#The question whether such heat sensing sights exist came up on this list. I
#doubt it. The image shown was a lot like that of a PVN-34 except red not
#green. If one assumes that a mud-brick wall is essentially silica particles
#{fine sand} YOu might be able to see a heat source of human dimension behind
#CHL

Anyone remember the movie that came out a few years back about a couple
of LA cops who flew this ultra-modern helicopter? I can't think of the name
right now, but at the beginning of the movie there is a disclaimer that
says "the weapons and technology depicted in this film are real and in use
today" or something to that effect. Ay any rate, in the film there was a
scene that showed the cops eaves-dropping on some "bad guys" inside a building.
I also seem to remember them showing some sort of "sight" that also showed
"images" of men as they moved behind a wall.
Anyone else remember this movie, or any more details?
One more thing I remember is that the helicopter also had a "quiet" mode.
That is, the engine could be put into a "quiet mode".
From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: .45 Win. Mag. pistols?
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:39:38 GMT
Organization: The Cat Factory

In article <1992Oct7.175053.8171@cbfsb.cb.att.com> osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X) writes:
}Hi Folks,
}
}Anyone know of any pistols chambered for the 45 Winchester Magnum?  Any
}semi autos?  Anyone have any experience with this round?  The figures look
}very similar to those of the .44 Magnum.  
}
}Just wondering if there are any decent toys chambered for this and whether or
}not they're worth considering.  Thanks in advance.

The LAR Grizzly comes in a .45 WinMag version.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
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Santa Monica, CA  90405
From: booth@mdd.comm.mot.com (Greg Booth)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Restricted weapons in Canada
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:53:14 GMT
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC

In <86N9RB3w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher) writes:


#	I have an FN-FAL, which is a restricted weapon in
#Canada (Ontario). It's fully registered, so just owning it isn't the
#problem. The problem is that I can't get a straight answer on
#whether or not I can fire it on my property. The police say I
#can't, but gun store owners say I can - as long as it stays on
#my property. Who is correct? 

Depends on what the local municipal by-laws say. Ask at your
local municipal/city/town hall for info. There are often
by-laws that prohibit discharging a firearm within municipal
limits. It probably depends on what kind of area. EG farmland,
or bush, probably ok, suburbia or downtown, no way.

#	Also, the rifle is selective fire, but the permit says
#it's semi-auto. Because the rifle is restricted in the first
#place, does it matter whether it's fired full-auto or semi-auto?

Umm, the only way you could have a full-auto is if you owned it
in 1978 and it is grandfathered. It would be a prohibited/grandfathered
weapon. Otherwise it is fully prohibited. If its semi-auto only
(the cops are probably assuming it is) it is restricted.

If its only registered as semi-auto, I am very surprised the
police haven't come a-knocking, and siezed it and arrested you.

I would very quickly find a very competent and reputable gunsmith
to do a full conversion to semi-auto only. I know that for
the FN, some conversions are not up to snuff, some conversions the police
have no problem with. Depends on how the conversion is done.


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From: kunz@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kunz peter)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: What does Magnum mean?
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:42:36 GMT
Organization: Informatik Club Uni Zurich

In article <1992Sep28.120627.22022@email.tuwien.ac.at> holger@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Holger Reusch (Dipl. Gerhard + Joe)) writes:
#
#The cartridge was called ".357 Magnum", with .357 reflecting the bullet
#diameter (in principle the same as for .38 Special, the ".38" must have
#been a marketing hype :-).
#
maybe calculators weren't very exact yet :-)

#after.  The .41 Magnum had been developed as a "police" cartridge,
#without a corresponding "standard" cartridge.
#
#Due to the rising popularity of semi-autos for police work, the .41
#Magnum never took over a significant segment of the official market.
#

i believe the .41 magnuym has a pistol cartridge counterpart: the .41
action express. why AE? and what's the sroty behind the .50 original
desert eagle going into .50 AE?


cu
-pete

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Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: joec@fid.morgan.com (Joe Collins)
Subject: Re: Recipe for that rotten egg stuff (Ammonium Hydroxide?)
Organization: None
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:21:58 GMT

In article <usgcjsx.718577086@gsusgi1.gsu.edu> usgcjsx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Felix_T._Cat) writes:
>
>How do you make that real smelly stuff
>that stinks like rotten eggs, it used to come in little glass vials..??
>Any info...?

That stuff is H2S, hydrogen sulfide. BTW, it is poisonous although the
smell will chase you away before you get overcome. But do remember that
the nose measures CHANGE in odors, not ODORS. So your sense of smell
will become deadened to the foul odor and thus you could become
overcome if you hang around.

The classic way to make this gas is to mix FeS (Iron Sulfide) with an
acid. 

FeS - you can get it at most hobby stores
For acid, try warm/hot vinegar or Sodium BiSulphate dissolved in
water.

Do this OUTSIDE - its real foul. Do it in SMALL quantities as well.

Joe
joec@morgan.com

Xref: sparky rec.pyrotechnics:3314 sci.chem:3953
From: whitbeck@equinox.unr.edu (Michael Whitbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics,sci.chem
Subject: Re: Mailing chemicals.
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:04:41 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pyrotechnics
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

Mailing and transport of chemicals in the US is definitely
regulated (see title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations).

Export is also regulated- this also includes export of ideas!
[Hard to believe huh?! I had a friend get a letter back that he
tried to send to England from his work. The company intercepted
the letter (because it had a foreign destination), saw that it
contained technical data/information (he was describing his
research) and re-routed it to the dept head with a flyer on
federal laws governing technology transfer overseas]

Why do this? The compounds you mention are certainly available
in England and are not expensive. How will you get the
perchlorate salt - shipping perchlorates is definately
regulated!

But why not just buy lithium perchlorate if that is what you
want? It is generally far cheaper to buy common items than to
make them. Would you order iron ore and coal to make nails for
a new fence?

Mike
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: christ@crash.cts.com (Chris Trichel)
Subject: Re: Tennis Ball Cannons
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:40:42 GMT

In <BvpH1J.DJ2@acsu.buffalo.edu> v064myby@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Christophe J Quaranta) writes:


>	Some friends of mine in Ohio made an excellent tennis ball cannon.
>It used a large coffee can as the c.c., and 5 or so soup cans as the barrel.
>About 1 inch from the back of the c.c. was a can lid cut to the shape of
>a turbine wheel. They affixed this in place and put some metal scraps between
>it and the back of the coffee can. This was so the fuel could be mixed well
>with air.

My friends and I have used regular Soda Cans for the whole construction... I 
used gasoline and got a range of about 100 feet (I also made a pretty lousy
launcher compared to theirs) while they used a 'rocket fuel' (some sort
of alcohol/gas mix I believe) and they got about 300+ feet

Chris
From: mas4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL ANTHONY STRAUSS)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: electrical igniters
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:52:32 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <THIMM.92Oct5194533@russell.ira.uka.de>, thimm@russell.ira.uka.de (Ge
org Thimm) writes:
>
>And an other one. This method is not the best but have a look:
>
>You need:
>- fine steel wool (as fine as possible, usually needed for
>cleaning purposes)
>- a capacitor about 200 to 300 uF / 350V (found in a TV)
>- a diode ( for example 1N1007)
>- a resistor 10 K Ohm
>- a plug
>- 2 clamps
>- some ISOLATED wire and stuff for soldering.
>
>Prepare:
>
>     ___                       -   +
>  __|   |____+-----+_____|/|_____| |____
>    |   |    +-----+     |\|     | |    |
>  __|   |_______________________________|
>    |___|
>
   ??63;1;2;4;8;9;15c
This is terrible using 120ACV to charge this capicitor.  The charge coming
from this could be lethal.  Here is a better DC method.

-Steel wool, again...
-A polarized capacitor 16v and 1000uF or larger
-DPST switch
-12v DC battery (not a car battery)
-wire

                         /
    ___________________/: ____________ ;;;       Steel Wool
   |          | +       :              ;;;;;    /____/
+ ---battery I Icapaci- : switch        ;;;;;;  \
  ---        I I  tor   :/            ;;;;;;
   |__________|________/  _____________ ;;


Close switch and Voila!!


  -Srauss
From: brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Celite
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:57:21 GMT
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Has anyone made nitrocellulose using Celite filter aid?

Celite is finely divided cellulose fibres and of a similar texture to flour.

Cheers
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From: kjurena@lonestar.utsa.edu (Keith R. Jurena)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Celite
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:03:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Oct16.160357.711
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Oct14.025721.14555@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage) writes:
>
>Has anyone made nitrocellulose using Celite filter aid?
>
>Celite is finely divided cellulose fibres and of a similar texture to flour.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.  Don't make assumptions when dealing with pryotechnics.
Celite, as manfactured by Manville, is  a diatiomaceous (sp) filter aid.  It
is a mineral, mainly alumina-sillicate, more of a ceramic, not a polysachride
such as starch.  No danger in exposing it to conc. HNO3 & H2SO4 although nothin
g will happen.  Always double check everything.
Nitration of cotton is easy but happens so fast when sulfuric acid is used that
most product is lost.
>
>Cheers
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>David Bromage       brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au   :
>Monash University                                : "I think thinking is
>Clayton, Victoria   				 :  so important"
> Australia                                       : 	-Baldrick
> 						 :
>     May the source be with you			 :
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>	All views expressed are my own except those which conflict with
>	my personal opinions.
>
From: zetie@vax.oxford.ac.uk (The Edible Dormouse)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Fizzling fuse effect
Date: 14 Oct 92 09:40:45 GMT
Organization: Oxford University, Dept of Antiquated Physics

Hi,

I'm looking to make a fuse effect for a show. Basically what we want is a
fizzly cowboy style fuse. It doesn't have to trigger anything, just look right.
I had thought that cotton string with something dissolved onto it, like black
powder would do but:

a)Is black powder legal in the UK?
b) Is it easy to make?(I'm a physicist and can get the chemicals, but I'm no
chemist)
c)Is there anytihng easier I could buy at a model shop? Insides of a firework
for example?

ken
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