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From: masc0374@ucssun1.sdsu.edu.sdsu.edu (Avoid normal situations.)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: SK cancels Dark Tower series!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 17:32:22 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
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Grizabella (jordan@cs.tulane.edu) wrote:

  [raves about _The Drawing of the Three_ deleted]

: Yeah, Right!) Although there have been rumors on the
: net lately that King isn't going to continue the series, I'm going to
: continue to hope because I want to learn more about Rolands friends that
: he grew up with. (I can't remember their names... the ones from his
: chilhood that he snuck off to the execution with, etc.) 

 [ jokes about my usual sign-off deleted ]

  I believe you mean Alain and Cuthbert. With names like that it's GOTTA
be a fantasy novel. "Yo, Cuthbert, what's the haps?" No no no. :-)

  						Love & kisses,

					The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

					"Had a bad childhood? We can fix
					it." -- Bill Paxton,
					 Adam Simon's _Brain Dead_
 
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: sba@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Blade)
Subject: Necroscope
Keywords: Brian Lumley
Organization: Blades high Tensile Steel Weapons....
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:59:10 GMT

Just a short message to ask if anyone has read the Necroscope series by
Brian Lumley???

I have not and I am wondering whether to buy the aforementioned book(s)

Please can someone tell me if they are worth buying????

thankyou...

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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman)
Subject: Re: Last night's Rosanne episode
Keywords: Vegetarianism vs Vampirism
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:31:50 GMT

mlperkin@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mildred l perkins) writes:

>Did anyone else notice that Darlene was reading "Interview With the
>Vampire" while "working" at her mom's loose meat counter?  I thought it
>was pretty funny, really.  While she's making SUCH a stink about being a
>vegetarian and fighting the meat industry, she's reading a book about
>blood-suckers.

I didn't notice, but it was either a) Sara Gilbert's own choice so she'd
look hip or b) the writers' statement about most vegetarians' hypocrisy.
--
Dave!
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: SK cancels Dark Tower series!
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:40:24 GMT

This one hot off the rumor mill.  Donald M. Grant and Stephen King
have confirmed, due to lack of sales on the paperback editions, that
the Dark Tower series will NOT be continued.  Apparently while the
limited editions of the Dark Tower sold fairly well, sales of the
paperback were abysmal.  And, as everyone knows, you don't make much
money off of limited editions.
  Personally I think this is a terrible mistake on King's part.  He is
alienating those fans of his that LIKED the Dark Tower series (myself
included).  I would certainly like to see the ending which he's had in
mind for so long.   Secondly, when it comes to Stephen King, money
should not be a factor.  The man is rich.  If Donald M. Grant makes
money off the series (which he does...  At least more than most of his limited
editions...), he should continue publishing them in that fashion until
done.  
  The problem with the paperback sales it seemed to me was market
saturation.  Too many copies printed.  The different covers didn't
help either.  That just encouraged dealers to order more and have more
copies stuck around on the shelves.  What we need is lower paper-back
print runs for this series.  Give the large print runs to his main
stream books, while only printing enough to satisfy fan demand out
there.  You only need to print 10000 or so books to clear a profit
(and really that is being very generous.  I know of some authors whose
print runs of 3000 or so still net a profit), and there's got to be
more than 10,000 fans of the series out there....
  Reactions?  Comments?  What did most people out there think of this
series?






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From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Remakes of Old Classics - Yet Another!
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:11:32 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum

In article <DaJVXB2w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe) writes:
>> FFC could find.  _Frankenstein_ went fast.  It will be directed by Kenneth
>> Brannagh, with him playing in the starring role.  After seeing him play 
>> Roman in _Dead_Again,_  I must say that this is a very, very good thing.  He
>> can capture the mood PERFECTLY.  Emma Thomas will probably play his fiance, 
>> which isd great, since we get to see her _die!_  No word yet on who's doing
>> the invisible man.  
>
> Jesus Christ...I almost creamed my jeans upon hearing that. Any 
>confirmations of this rumour, or should I stop clapping my hands and 
>jumping up and down?
>
>

ell, I too have heard Brannagh is directing Frankenstein, which I would too
assume he will star in along with Emma.  As for The Invisible Man, I haven't
heard anything about it.

As for when I stated two versions of Frankenstein are coming, it's true.  One
is being made for TNT and the producers were of course alarmed to hear Coppola
was doing it also.  It too is supposed to be a faithful adaptation and is also
going by the name, 'Mary Shelly's Frankenstein'.  I have no idea who is in it
or is aligned to direct it, but at least we'll have two of them to attack. :^)


-- 
	-Casey
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From: e_ruthyn@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Bram Stoker's Dracula
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:34:26 GMT
Reply-To: e_ruthyn@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I have read with interest the discussion on the film in this newsgroup, 
and wanted to put my two cents in..As a completely different viewpoint.

  First of all, I believe there hasn't been much discussion in here about 
it because of the Alt.Vampyres newsgroup, which is where most of the 
vampire stuff wnt after it's formation.

   I loved the movie, and I am not ashamed to say it.

I read the book right beforehand, and also read the script, and 
everything else I could get my hands on. 

While I found Keanu Reeves accent disturbing, his acting was fine, (to 
me) when you ignored the accent, especially his reaction to the Brides 
feasting on the infant, and much later, when Mina is turning into a 
vampire (on the train to Transylvania) and he says, "Stay with me, 
please."Those two moments salvaged him for me.

  The costuming has to be the most daring in years..It is not strictly 
period, but this is a FANTASY, so I don't see why we have to have a 
strict BBC/Masterpeice Theatre type of dress code.I thought the costumes 
and make-up were brilliant. I especially liked Lucy's bizarre wedding 
dress.

 I don't want to go into the movie bit by bit, I don't have the time. I 
just want to sum up that, for me, I was completely transported into an 
absynthe dream from the beginning to end. I found the images and effects 
enhanced my experience. I think Gary Oldman is the best Dracula ever.I 
loved the changes they made to the story, it brought it up to date for 
me.This version fits our times better, in my opinion, than a story about 
an evil beast which must be hunted down.The love story was essential to 
my enjoyment of this story. I believe there is alot of that intimated in 
the original novel, and Francis and Hart just took it much furthur.

I know alot of criitics and people have hated. I know alot of people who 
loved it, as I did. It gets better every time I see it! (Five times so 
far!)

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ e_ruthyn@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: cbnorman@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Bruce Norman)
Subject: Re: Wolf chp 7
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:12:56 GMT


>                        Wolf
>             Copyright 1992, Bruce Norman
>                 All rights reserved
>
>
>- Chapter 7 -
>
>"Son, we need to talk". Chris opened one sleepy eye in shock, his
>clock said 6:30.
 
(whack) Boy do I feel like a Moron.  I go and forget there are seven
parts to my own story.... :)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu (Angela KAY Rolling)
Subject: 0/8
Reply-To: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:29:32 GMT

	Slowly I walked home, pausing to look at unusual stones and shells
along the beach. The moon was a bright whight glob illuminating the beach
and all that was there in a rather spectaculer way. I was standing in the
driveway when the old mans words came back to me. What did he meen? and 
why tell me? What was the pertanince of those words? Why was I so sure
that they were anything more then the ramblings of an old man? I brushed
these thoughts aside as the wind would a peace of paper caught in its path
and went inside.
	The clock sead that it s 11:30, strang that it didnt seem like that
long. Being a psyc major at that time I begane to wonder if I was developing
a split personality. In my own netivity I still beleaved in logic and it's
ability, ney power to solve and explane everything. In the shower I found 
that the old mans statment continued to creep back into my conciouse mind
agen and agen. Each time it was a little harder to repress untill it bothered
me as much as the wonderful thoughts of her did the night befor. Ielt that
it would jinx everything if I used her name as thou she were some misticle
creature who would disapper the moment it was out. I told my self that I was
being foulish yet I could not force myself to say it.
	Agen I drept about the wolf. only this time I was running along side
of her as we traviled threw the forist.

Elf-kin
From: mcmurtrey@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
Subject: Re: Wolf chp 7 + Little red
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:40:49 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <C1JKtL.74w@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, cbnorman@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Bruce Norman) writes:
> 
>>                        Wolf
>>             Copyright 1992, Bruce Norman
>>                 All rights reserved
>>
>>
>>- Chapter 7 -
>>
>>"Son, we need to talk". Chris opened one sleepy eye in shock, his
>>clock said 6:30.
>  
> (whack) Boy do I feel like a Moron.  I go and forget there are seven
> parts to my own story.... :)


You think you feel silly...  I forgot about you story and I even have it
saved...  it's pretty good by the way...  I got goofed up on what they were
asking for... I assumed since our 0/7 had just vanished off my node that theirs 
had also... sorry guys..

                                        Diana


p.s sandler you're weird....  but then again I'm nuts so who cares.
From: 9217088@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
Subject: Wolf chapter 7,repost request
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:50:16 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland


  Due to the extremely efficent people here at UL we missed wolf 7 so
I would be greatly obliged if someone would repost it.

  Thanks in  advance.

 Night City ARRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww
 
  ^ ^
 Coyote
   V    the .sig hunter
  \_/

     `Damn news-feader crashes'-me
     `Damn ITD'-Gary Pigott 9111298,honest gov.(mail him lots)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: sandler@duck.ee.udel.edu (Sandman)
Subject: Little Red (warning may contain adult subject-matter)
Organization: Lab Rats
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:15:23 GMT


Ok, ok, anyone ever read Little Red Riding Hood and looked at it as, not
a work about a kid getting to grandma's house, but instead of a girl
going from girlhood through the sexual blossoming into womanhood.

Grandma's house being a symbol of the child and childlike innocence.
The wolf being either temptation or sexual threat (ie man).
The wolf violating the innocence of the girl and taking the place of
the grandma, a person whom the girl loved.
In the end the girl is completely taken over (eaten) and then is found
to still live through the experience.
She exacts revenge on the the creature that has stolen her innocence.

The question: is this a story about a romp throug the forest or the first
sexual experience of a girl?

Just in mid-afternoon contiplation mode.
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: cbnorman@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Bruce Norman)
Subject: Re: Wolf chapter 7,repost request
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:12:05 GMT

In article <20373.2b642858@ul.ie> 9217088@ul.ie writes:
>
>  Due to the extremely efficent people here at UL we missed wolf 7 so
>I would be greatly obliged if someone would repost it.
>
>  Thanks in  advance.
>
> Night City ARRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww
> 
>  ^ ^
> Coyote
>   V    the .sig hunter
>  \_/
>
Sorry Coytoe, but there is no Wolf 7.  Wolf-6 was the last chapter, it's
an unfinished work.

I'll repost the entire thing in a day or two btw, for anyone who has missed
a portion.  After that, it'll be made available for ftp.

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From: mrjones@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL ROBIN JONES)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
Subject: Re: Werewolf Music
Summary: Song/Lyrics
Keywords: Wolf, Danzig
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:07:45 GMT
Followup-To: mrjones@eos.ncsu.edu
Distribution: alt.horror.werewolves
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos


Anyone out there heard of the group Danzig?  Frontman for Misfits
and Samhain, now out with his own band. (Well, not NOW but...)

The following are names of wolfish songs and their lyrics.  If
you don't want this, then [n]ext the article (or whatever).

Lyrics (c) Danzig

Am I Demon
----------
Hordes of faces
Empty eyes
I see nothing new
Seasoned schemes of slimy curs
off up their flu
Am I beast or am I human
Am I just like you
Power seething, really reeling
Reaching out for you

Am I demon?  You need to know

Faces of a million hells
Rage inside these veins
Pounding out deserved pain
To anyone in need
Am I beast or am I human
Am I just like you
Power seething, really reeling
Reaching out for you

Am I demon?  Need to know

Every world and every limb
torn asunder base
Everything I need is me
Everything I am
Am I beast or am I human
Am I just like you?
Power seething, really reeling
Reaching out for you

Lyrics (c) Danzig II

Killer Wolf
-----------
I'm the wolf
I'm the one you want
I'm the killer wolf
I'm 'onna pound you home
howlin' all night
I curl up next to you
when you're all alone

when I go inside your little girl
when I go inside your little girl

(chorus:)
just one kiss from my lips
rake your soul over burning coals
just one touch, of my love
make you howl 'til the sun comes up

I'm the wolf
howlin' all night
I'm the king wolf
I put the chill in your bones
I'm the wolf
Hunting you down, I ain't no backdoor wolf
I don't scratch at no doors

----------------------------------------------------
	Carnifex	aka 	mrjones@eos.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: sandler@duck.ee.udel.edu (Sandman)
Subject: Re: Greetings from New Reader!
Organization: Lab Rats
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:40:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.150102.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> fgclay01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>Hello, every reader of alt.horror.werewolves!
......
>I do have one request, tho'...  For whoever is granted the opportunity to write
>the 'transformation' scene, if one is to be included, please do it with as much
>detail as possible.  The beauty of the wolf has few equals, and, for me,
>scenes such as this, if properly detailed, can add to the beauty...the
>mystery...the fascination and 'wantingness' of *being* a werewolf!

The story is not as structured as all of that.  Whoever wants to post does.
The story just continues as it will.
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: sandler@bilbo.ee.udel.edu (Sandman)
Subject: Re: Wolf chp 7 + Little red
Organization: Lab Rats
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:33:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.094049.10303@iscsvax.uni.edu> mcmurtrey@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>p.s sandler you're weird....  but then again I'm nuts so who cares.

Hmmmmm,  Well, Ummm, I don't have a responce for this....
From: sandler@duck.ee.udel.edu (Sandman)
Subject: 0/10
Organization: Lab Rats
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:27:32 GMT

>         I looked over at my partner and saw that she had also been successful
>> with her attack.  As we fed, our eyes again and again met with almost an 
>>erotic tingle.

The blood of the prey was hot and had a taste of fire and the hunt.
The flesh was tender and had the flavor that I was craving for. You
know that kind of craving where you know you are hungry for something
in particular but do not know what it is.  Well I found out, that
night, what that favor, that craving, that need is, at least for me.

When I had seen what I had done I recoiled.  I expected that the shock
of seeing the blood covered deputy Skeeter Mcgee with limbs torn apart
and a gaping hole in his chest would wake anyone out of their sleep.  I
fully expected to wake with a start, sweating in my bed.  Only, this
time I did not wake.  I was still there.  The panic hit me.  I think I
might have heard a wolfish laughter in the background. I did something
that I though I would never do; something I though only women did in
movies.  I fainted.  Head leaned back.  Eyes rolled back and the last
thing I remember seeing was the bright full moon. I remember thinking
tomorrow it will be fine; tomorrow the moon will not be full any
longer.
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: sandler@snow-white.ee.udel.edu (Sandman)
Subject: 0/7
Organization: Lab Rats
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:28:26 GMT

>She smiled sweetly at me when I handed her the flowers, even though I
>was almost ten minutes late.  Strange, I thought that I would get there early.
>I wonder where the time goes?

Dinner all happened in a swirl of excitement and was over before I knew what
was going on.  It was 6 oclock and the cafe was closing.  "Can I walk you 
home?  It's getting late and it will be dark very soon." I said with a
boyish greedyness further desiring her company.  She giggled and walked away.
I stood there again entranced by her movement that it hit me that if I
wanted her I should follow.  Or at least that is what all of the movies
I have seen seemed to imply.  In a moment of courage I raced after her.  She
was not not 100 feet away when she turneded a corner.  In an instant I was
around the corner and she was nowhere to be seen.. Gone like a wisp of smoke
or a fly you have been following with your eyes on a hot sunny day.  One
second it is there and the next second it's gone.  I reveled in the mystery
of it as I walked to my home. The sky went from the dark purple of sunset
to the deep blue-black of night. The moon would be rising soon and on this
clear night it would be bright enough to light the path.  I could think of
nothing better than to walk next to the stream on a clear night with a full
moon.
From: z_coolidgejs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
Subject: Wolf music
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:03:40 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Here's a new thread.  Does anyone know of some good werewolf music?  Here's
what I know.

_Of Wolf and Man_ by Metallica--one of the few songs out there distinctly and
     unmistakably about werewolves.  It is fast paced and hard driving. 
     Depicts werewolves as a symbol of wilderness and of life rather than an
     evil, unnatural force.

_Brother Wolf, Sister Moon_ by The Cult--Off of this group's calmest album, a
     dark, ominous ballad.  Very powerful and prophetic.

_Lock Up the Wolves_ by Dio--does not specifically say werewolves, but does
     speak of wolves.  This ten minute song begins with eerie music and the
     ticking of a clock.  It jumps into a dark, slow moving metal song with a
     very serious tone.  Wonderful for the imagination.

_Still of the Night_ by Whitesnake--really just a sex song with wolf references
     thrown in, but it could fit for werewolves.  The middle violin bow on
     guitar solo is eerie and melodeous--how unfortunate that this effect is so
     seldomly used!  See also _Bad Boys_ on the same album.

_The Hunter_ by Dokken--again a matter of interpretation.  Don Dokken sings of
     being a hunter searching for love (or as heavy metalists pronounce it,
     leeuuve) at night when the moon is full.

_Werewolves of London_ by Warren Zevon--I thought it was lousy, but some others
     out there may like it.  Sounds countryish.

And for the general flavor of night creatures (though without definite werewolf
references), try Creatures of the Night (KISS), Walk in the Shadows
(Queensryche), and Night People (Dio).

Anyone else know of some werewolf music?  I'd be very interested.

--Jon, Oh no, It's happening.  Arg.
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: wolf@cheshire.oxy.edu (Clinton Richard Wolf)
Subject: Re: Wolf music
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:47:10 GMT

  Been watchin'. Waitin' for the right moment... 

  Now I pounce...

>Here's a new thread.  Does anyone know of some good werewolf music?  Here's
>what I know.

  Two songs by Oingo Boingo definitely fit the bill...

  "What You See" and "No One Lives Forever"

  These are especially appropriate if you've read White Wolf's Storyteller game
_Werewolf: The Apocalypse_ ... to me they really capture the rage, vitality, 
and hopelessness of the Werewolf's situation. "No One Lives Forever", in partic-
ular, has some great lyrics... 

   "  Let's have a party, there's a full moon in the sky,
     It's the hour of the Wolf, and I don't wanna die..." 

   Both provide plenty of good quote material... :)


-- Clint (and yes, that IS my real last name...)
From: mcmurtrey@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
Subject: <None>
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:49:12 -0600
Summary: 0/9
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        
>       Again, I dreampt of about the wolf, only this time I was running along 
> side her as we traveled threw the forest.

        The darkening forest cast errie (spelled?) shadows as we raced across
the terrain.  My blood began to boil as the scent of the prey we followed 
grew stronger.   As we came upon the prey, she and I split, moving to opposite
sides of the path by an almost telepathic agreement for we were one unit
hunting.  
        
        Catching site of the prey we attacked.  Dragging down my chosen prey I
felt both an overwhelming sence of power and peace.  My actions were
instinctive and achingly familiar.  

        I looked over at my partner and saw that she had also been successful
with her attack.  As we fed, our eyes again and again met with almost an erotic
tingle.

--next

We need action...

                                                Diana McMurtrey