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From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: You get what you pay for? (Was Re: Eudora Support)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:19:45 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2


In article <143635@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> (comp.sys.mac.comm), deboni@diego.llnl.gov (Tom DeBoni) writes:
> One more thing: I'd never heard of Quallcom before Steve moved there. Maybe
> I don't travel in the right circles, but you can bet I've heard of them now,
> and his presence there is great advertising.

One hopes that Quallcom has *some* understanding of the value of 
Steve in this respect. Too many companies piss away resources of
his quality.


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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:12250 comp.sys.mac.hardware:24570
From: degennar@bmsrs.usc.edu (Ray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac Ethernet boards (and software)
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:02:04 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: bmsrs.usc.edu

We are moving and plan to laydown only one network, a 10baseT Enet.  Any
suggestions and/or cautions about particular brands of boards?  We want to
put 5-6 macs and 2 laswerwriters on the same network as our UNIX boxes, use
some disk space on one of the UNIX boxes as a mac server and still be able
to select the printers from the Chooser.

It looks like Dayna's Enet cards and their EtherPrint Plus adapter will 
handle the first and the last requirements, but can we get the box's hard
disk to appear as an AppleTalk server?  Will we need additional software?

Also, does anybody know about Asante's cards?  Do they have anything like
Dayna's EhterPrint?  What software comes with their cards?

Ditto for TechWorks.

What kind of telnet software is available?  

Someone (EVerette, sorry, I lost your email address) suggested EtherWrite
and CAP (runs on the UNIX box).  Any infomation on where I can find either
of these items?  Any experience with them?

It will probably be easier to email me and I'll summarize and repost. 
 
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:12184 comp.protocols.appletalk:4248
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: 'comp.sys.mac.mactcp' newsgroup?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:22:58 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2


In article <1992Dec16.162734.18373@bcrka451.bnr.ca> (comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.appletalk), tref@bcrka450.bnr.ca (Francois Tremblay) writes:
> > A quick nngrep for 'mac' give me the following list, editted to remove
> > the irrelevant stuff:
> > 
> 
> Yes, this is getting out of hand, I vote to reduce the number of groups  
> and get people to use efficient news reader.

And WHY should I get news delivered to my machine that I DON'T want?!

Having kill files and efficient readers is all fine and dandy if you're
sitting on a megabit pipe to the Internet. Other, less casheous,
individuals pay for bandwidth. Proper refinement of groups is a big
advantage for a number of reasons, although I grant that a high level
of cross posting is an unfortunate side-effect.


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From: roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:13:43 GMT
Organization: New York University, School of Medicine
NNTP-Posting-Host: mchip00.med.nyu.edu

Norbert Mueller <K360171@alijku11.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> writes:
> If Macs with Ethernet hardware are delivered without MacTCP this is like
> selling a car without a steering wheel.  Apple seriously should reconsider
> its MacTCP policy !!!!

	As far as I can tell, Apple's policy on the TCP/IP and the Internet
is that they don't really acknowledge that it exists and sort of wish it
would go away.

	I was looking though a folder of stuff the other day and found a
letter (undated, so I really don't know how old it is, from context, I think
it's from just about a year ago) from APDA about renewing our subscription.
They letter concludes, "If you have any comments or questions, please
contact us at:" and proceedes to give their USMail address, voice phone
number, fax number, Applelink address, GEnie address, MCI address, TLX
number, CompuServe address and MacNET address.  Internet address?  What's
that?
-- 
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NYU School of Medicine, 550 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
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From: 6500veen@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Jeffrey Veen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ARA speed?
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:18:01 GMT

Could someone with a bit more experience help me out?  Here's the situation

We have a mac IIsi running system 7 and need to connect it to a similar
machine to do some *serious* file transfers (Quark Xpress documents with
1200 dpi scanned art--couple of megs a piece each week)  We're getting
14.4K modems to do this.  The software is the problem.  Ideally, we'd
like to use Remote Access because the users on the other end won't
be too interested in hanging around waiting for us to transfer.  How
will ARA compare to something like ZTerm in terms of speed?  Would
it be that much different?   Also, anyone wann recommend a good 14.4K
modem and alternative software?  Much thanks.

jv

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Supra Modem cable
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:13:26 GMT

Timothy David Sharpe (gadget@engin.umich.edu) wrote:
: Is it possible to buy the cable separately, or make it?
: I don't see the need for the whole macpac, just the cable.


Sure, no problem. I have some of these, double shielded, the
right pinout for hardware handshake as well as Appletalk Remote
Access. I also have quantity discounts :-).



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Subject: Re: Smartcom II offer ?
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:35:26 GMT

wang_dj@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (David J. Wang) writes:

>In article <1h2vahINN833@agate.berkeley.edu> werner@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (John Werner) writes:
>>In article <6568.2b344b48@hayes.com>, Bill Coleman writes:
>>> The moral dilemma is this -- how is this VT102 emulation? You'd now be 
>>> emulating a different terminal, not a VT102.
>>

I'll chime in and second (or is it fourth by now?) this as well.  It is
patently ridiculous to claim a limitation of your program is a "feature"
providing better VT102 emulation than other programs.  I've heard of one
comm program (I think it is for the PC) that claims to emulate the VT100
*perfectly*.  It goes so far as to have a switch which allows you to turn
on/off the bugs present in a real life VT100!  Why not have an 'anal' switch
for Smartcom II, which greys out the option real users want for controlling
the number of lines?

I have only a Mac Plus, so you'd probably think I wouldn't care about this.
But I do, quite a bit actually.  I run 'screen' on the Unix host I connect to,
which really needs a status line.  It can run with 24 lines, but it is much
more convenient to have 25, which my Plus has the room for.  I simply wouldn't
use a comm program, no matter how good it was in any other way, if it didn't
provide me the capability for 25 lines.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Subject: Re: ARA speed?
Reply-To: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:44:15 GMT

I have found that using Z-modem transfer with a program like white-knight
beats ARA for speed.  I am using microcom modems v42 and all that stuff.
ARA does its own compression (v42 I believe in software) and doesn't use the
modem hardware to capacity (this can be argued).

In any case, my experience is that with fast modems, a z-modem transfer with
white knight beats ARA for raw speed.  Other opinions may differ.

If it's not speed you want, but ease of interface, etc.  ARA is great in that
area.  Just like mounting up the volume.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam)
Subject: Re: XyZEL Modem WAS(Supra v32bis or Teleport Gold?????)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:14:17 GMT

In <1gjhsrINNdu7@mohawk.cs.utexas.edu> newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton) writes:

>> This happens to me. I can only send fax at maximum speed of 4800, but my
>> ZyXEL is sending at 9600.

>I have found FAXing with a ZyXEL 1496E (5.0.2 ROMs) and FaxSTF 2.2.3
>to be flawless.  A supra I tried (with old ROMs) FAXed very poorly
>indeed.  Almost nothing worked.  I'd want to hear some success stories
>in this regard about the latest supra ROMs before I bought one.  With
>the old ROMs, multipage faxes and hi-res faxes did not work. 

>I have been happy with the ZyXEL.  Not only do the FAX capabilities
>work, but I have never had a problem connecting to another modem.

One thing about the XyXEL. It doesn't support Class 1 fax commands, which
means I can't wake up my PB100 when a fax arrives.

Louis

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Subject: Re: where to buy Teleport/Gold?(quick plse)ease
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:14:12 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <BzF83u.D86@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Igor Livshits <igorl@uiuc.edu> writes:

>I just checked with MacConnection and they have one for $429. 
>1-800-Mac-Lisa

I don't get it.  Why would anyone pay more than the $349 price which you 
can get straight from the manufacturer?


Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
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New York, NY  10112-0228
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul Robichaux)
Subject: Re: 'comp.sys.mac.mactcp' newsgroup?
Reply-To: robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: New Technology, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:09:46 GMT

In <1992Dec16.052858.15018@netcom.com> creiman@netcom.com (Charlie Reiman) writes:
>Just ask yourself some simple questions while reading news: If I don't
>care about HERMES discussions, then why am I reading them? No one
>forces you to read any threads you thinks are stupid. Ignore them.  If
>you are worried about missing important information, don't be. It'll
>come around again. Important information on USENET cycles around
>constantly, usually do to newbie questions.

Au contraire, Charlie! The idea behind ultra-narrow newsgroups is
similar to the one behind ulta-narrow cable channels: information of
interest to a particular group.

I'm _glad_ that we have narrowcast newsgroups. I don't have any
interest in Hypercard, so I don't read that newsgroup. Maybe we don't
need mac subgroups at all. Let's just lump all Mac traffic into
"comp.sys.mac"; if your site can't handle the bandwidth, or if you
don't like sorting through messages on topics of no interest to you,
that's _your_ problem!

The real question is: is there enough MacTCP traffic to warrant a
separate newsgroup? I don't think so; I think comp.protocols.appletalk
has been doing a splendid job. While I agree in principle with EMV, I
don't think we need _that_ narrow a newsgroup. I'd vote for
comp.protocols.tcp-ip.mac, though.

>Now where did I leave my asbestos underwear?
Not intended as a flame, just a comment.

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From: dmeyers@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Dave Meyers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacX 1.1.7 and Sun OpenLook Problem
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:32:14 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Res. Inst./Modeling & Analysis Lab

In <1992Dec17.120705.28364@bernina.ethz.ch> raoul@inf.eawag.ch (Raoul Schaffner) writes:

>I installed MacX 1.1.7 to use my Quadra 700 as XWindow Server for various
>XWindow Applications running on our Sun SparcServer. However, as far as the
>window manager is concerned, I was not able to load the OpenLook Window
>Manager
>Version 3. The error message is something like: "unable to load, is there
>another window manager running?".

This error occurs when you start up olwm without any options.
As far as X is concerned, MacX gives your Mac four screens, two
of which already have window managers running (the two rootLESS
screens are running a Mac window manager.  The two rooted screens,
which come up as windows themselves, can have external window
managers like olwm running in them).  By default, olwm tries
to take over ALL the screens.  (Unlike twm or mwm, which both
just default to a single screen).  What you need to do is 
execute:

olwm -single &


>1. Has anybody else experienced these problems with cmdtool and shelltool?

I have problems with them even running them on other suns.  They
don't echo characters and sometimes have other tty type problems.
I just use xterms, and though they lack scroll bars, they always
work.

>2. Has anybody managed to run OLWM 3 on MacX 1.1.7?

Ya.  Just do as I said above, and make sure that your $DISPLAY
is set to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0.1 or :0.3, which are the rooted
windows.

>3. Has anybody successfully launched cmdtool from within MacX instead of
>   from the terminal emulator as described above?

I am still experiencing problems.  These are due to the Sun and
SunOS, not due to MacX.  What MacX does is use a rexec command
to start up x-clients.  For security reasons, SunOS won't even
acknowledge them from non-recognized hosts, and I still haven't
gotten it to play nice.  When I need to run sun stuff, I just
start up ncsa Telnet, open up a term on the Sun, set the DISPLAY
and go from there.  I would recommend this anyway, because the
response from a Telnet terminal is far better than from any
x based terminal you could open up in MacX.  Since I almost
always need at least one terminal window, it makes sense to
just keep telnet running in parallel with MacX, and just use
macX for graphics stuff.

--David
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson)
Subject: 1-800 Telnet service?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:18:27 GMT

I'm certain this has been asked a dozen times before, but I never really
paid attention.  I'm asking for a friend: what 1-800 services are there out
there that provide Internet access? I'm aware there are no free ones; if
anyone knows of any of these kinds of services, please email me a response.
 Thanks.

========================================================================
Hugh W. Johnson (johnsh@rpi.edu) | "How can a heart
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute |  that's filled with love
Troy, New York, USA              |  start to cry?"       -- Julee Cruise
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: kgoodwin@icaen.uiowa.edu (Kirk W Goodwin)
Subject: Voice Mail software for ZyXEL 
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:09:57 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19

What software would you recommend to use the Voice Mail feature on 
the ZyXEL modem?

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From: owen-christopher@yale.edu (Christopher Owen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Comm App with Programmable Buttons
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:23:45 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

I have something called 'Termulator' I believe.  It lets you construct macros
of any length and then call them by hitting a button along the top of the 
terminal window.  It is shareware.  I don't know anywhere to get it although
it is available at (203) 772-3382.

Chris


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Ben Burch <Burch_Ben@wes.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Hermes Backdoor
Organization: Motorola, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:10:00 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A74F95CCA301B081@ben_burch.pb.wes.mot.com>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-Xxdate: Sat, 12 Dec 92 07:12:44 GMT

In article <20005@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> , 2754@chumley.ucdavis.edu writes:
>TO BECOME A SYSOP ON ANY HERMES BBS DO THE FOLLOWING: (v1.7->2.0)


No kidding???  Are you Serious???  (I saw *no* smiley's!)  I would be
most grateful
if you would be so kind as to tell me what code resource this stuff is in
(if you know) so I can expunge it.  I will be attacking my copy of Hermes
this
PM with a very good disassembler I wrote, and will report what I find. 
This is
*most* disturbing!

Yesterday PM I began porting XBBS to the mac...  It is an integrated
BBS/Mailer
from the IBM world.  It will be given away under GNU-type copylefts when
it is
done, which I estimate to be by summer.  This allegation, if true, will
get me
to actually *finish* this project...

-Ben Burch
Organization: Valencia University (Universitat de Valencia)   SPAIN
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 15:50:28 EST
From: <CANTERO@EVALUN11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: where is asante drive 5.01?

HI
 I read that Asante have a new drive for Ethernet Card 5.01..
 anybody can me say where is it??????
   Please send my reply via e-mail

                                   Thanks in advanced
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: wkirk@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Bill Kirk DCS)
Subject: ARA
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:58:56 GMT

I am new to the Macintosh and newer yet to the world of telecommunication.
 This may be a "FAQ", but, I do not want to go out and purchase software
that may end up on the shelf.  I have a number of questions about using ARA.

1.  What is it?  How does it work?  Is if faster that kermit or zterm?
2.  Is it commerical, shareware, or freeware?
3.  Will it work on a LC with 10meg ram 40 meg hard disk, and an ATI
Technologies 2400etc modem.  The modem architecture is based on the Intel
8031 microprocessor and uses a single chip digital signal processor.  Has
CCITT V.42 error control protocol, V.42bis data compression and MNP level
5 data compression.

I stress that I require information that a beginner can digest.  Thanks

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: aboba@world.std.com (Bernard D. Aboba)
Subject: PowerBook Modem and MacSLIP?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: MailCom
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:45:39 GMT

Looking for a recommendation on a V.32bis/V.42bis Powerbook modem
to use with MacSLIP and ARA. Anyone have something they like? Please
respond by mail. Will summarize.  

Bernard Aboba
Author of "Bulletin Boards and Beyond"
Internet: aboba@world.std.com          FidoNet: 1:161/445
MailCom, 5337 College Ave., Suite 326, Oakland, CA 94618
Fax: (510)540-1057
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: Re: Fax capabilities of Microphone Pro?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:03:30 GMT

In article <BzKnMJ.DGp@news.udel.edu> johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes:
>Could someone who has tried Microphone Pro comment on its
>FAX capabilities?   Specifically:
>
>Does the fax side work by INIT, CDEV, faceless bg app, 
>separate stand-alone app, etc?
>
	The Fax capabilities of MPPro aren't really MP's, but simply the
fact that MPPro includes a copy of FAXStf.  At this time, there isn't even
any linkage between the products!

>Not a fax question, but will MP Pro work reliably with DTE
>set at 38.4 or 57.6?  (I've been using 19.2 with MP II v.4.0.)
>
	MPPro is really a renamed version of MPII 4.0.2, so it will work
as reliably as MPII 4.0 does.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: Re: Zyxel:  file transfers die randomly? 
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:35:48 GMT

In article <Bz5Lu3.Lxs@news.udel.edu> johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes:

[... Zyxel drops carrier during download...]

The answer is to set up the modem to ignore DTR by adding &D0 to 
the initialization string.  It turns out that the Supra "Mac"
init string does the same thing -- I'm sure that the Mac version 
of the Zyxel docs emphasize "use &D0";  the PC version doesn't.

[... RF interference from Zyxel...]

Moving the modem fixed this.  The plastic-cased Zyxel does leak
more RF than the aluminum-cased Supra, but this probably isn't
a big deal.  (The Supra had originally been placed near my amplified 
FM antenna, the Zyxel killed reception when it was in the same place.)

Thanks to Jason, Yoshio, and everybody who will answer the 
question tomorrow without checking first for a follow-up.  ;-)
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