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From: ivy@chem.ucsd.edu (Ivy Blumberg)
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Subject: Re: most underated actress/actor
Date: 17 Dec 1992 17:45:55 GMT
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In article <CBOLTON.92Dec17005146@csd475a.erim.org> cbolton@csd475a.erim.org (Chris Bolton) writes:
>
>  I've liked John Cusack in everything he's ever done (with the possible
I agree--I think he's great too.
>
>  I'll have to think about the actresses, but a preliminary pick would be
>Karen Allen...
 I agree here too.  After Indiana Jones she seemed to disappear except
for a few roles (i.e. Starman, which I liked)
I'd also like to add Mary Steenbergen--She's definitely one of my favorite
ctresses.

ivy


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From: ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.)
Subject: Re: _Toys_, the trailer
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:58:28 GMT

summer@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Mark Summerfield) writes:

>reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

>advertisements for the film, with no footage from "Toys".  Anyone who has
What?  clips _not_ from the movie?  You mean I can watch the preview with 
no danger of lessening the fun when I see it for real?

(example of the opposite:  BATMAN.  I'm still pissed)

				

			- Frank
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From: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca (scott weaver 9209 U)
Subject: Re: Anne of Green Gables
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Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:08:53 GMT

midori meech baer (mab7g@Virginia.EDU) wrote:
: i have simply adored anne shirley since i was in 7th grade and
: i also discovered it when flipping through channels.  have you
: read the books? there are 8. and another movie.  anne of
: avonlea.  it's beauteous (sp). for a long time she was like my
: idol and i talked like her and acted like her.  did you know
: that avonlea is a real place and that it is overrun with
: japanese.  even the sign post have japanese translations!?
: anyway. . .

Actually, Avonlea isn't exactly a real place.  There is a place in
Cavendish, PEI where they have a 'Green Gables' house set up imitating the
Green Gables from the novels and movies.  Just north of North Rustico
Harbour, there is also a 'Lake of Shining Waters' which Anne so aptly
named the first time coming to Green Gables with Matthew.  (North Rustico
is about 10 minute drive from Cavendish)

About a 15 minute drive in the other direction from Cavendish, (in New
London I think) is the real house where Lucy Maud Montgomery was born.

Green Gables in Cavendish is run by the PEI National Park by the way.

(ps.  did you know that more than 3/4 of the Anne Movie (the 1st one) was
filmed in Ontario?  Talk about sacreligious!!)

: 
: michan baer
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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Re: Oscars: Let's do it right (was Re: 1992?  It was a bad year....)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:02:30 GMT

The Dec. 7 issue of Variety indicates that the Jan.11 issue will list as 
completely as possible most or all of the films released in 1992 that will be 
eligible for the Academy Awards. This might help in predicting the nominations 
and eventual winners.

Has anyone read any results yet of some of the critics awards: L.A. Film
Critics, NY Film critics, etc.? They are as debateable as the Oscars, but it is
interesting to see their picks.  They often pick worthy films or performances
overlooked by the Academy.

Also, some probable nominees will still be released this month.
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From: pkedrosk@student.business.uwo.ca (Paul S. Kedrosky)
Subject: Re: Batman Sequels
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:28:25 GMT

rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:

[speculation about casting a new Batman deleted]

I'm sure this has been said many time before but let me say it again:
Please, please, please let there not be another Batman movie. There
are few things in cinema I hate more than watching a flawed but
fascinating film like Burton's original Batman get
bled dry and that's exactly how I see any future Batman films. Can you
say "Star Trek IX"? I knew you could.

Paul

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From: clsable@burn.Princeton.EDU (Carl Lewis Sable)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:38:44 GMT
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In article <1gi6hmINNkck@eagle.natinst.com> darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie) writes:
>I watched DieHard 2(again) over the weekend and there are a couple of things
>that I have to mention.  At the end of the  movie when McClane lit the trail
>of gas leaking from the jet engine he just happened to be sitting right at
>the end of the trail.  I mean that when he lit it it was right in front of him.
>On top of that, the fuel had been leaking before he fell off the plane so had
>he landed right on top of the "fuel trail" the flame would have went backwards
>too and burned him, but instead it just went forward toward the plane.
>
>Another thing, when he was in the cockpit of the plane when they threw all the
>grenades in, it sure took a long time for those grenades to go off. 
>
>The whole thing with not being able to light the runway was ridiculous. They 
>could have lined up all those firetrucks,ambulances, etc. on the sides of the
>runway.
>
>I enjoyed the movie(not as much as the first) but I wanted to mention these
>things.
>
>Darren
>
I agree with you that the movie was pretty fun (although not nearly as much
as the original) but that it had a lot of problems.  The first problem you
listed here, though, I'm not sure about.  I am pretty sure that he finally got
the tank open casuing the fuel to leak at the same time as he fell, so I could
conseivably see him being behind the start of the trail.  (Whether he would
still be in shape to laugh and use his arms so freely after the fall, I'm
not sure about.)

-Carl
From: cn@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Needham)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:30:43 GMT
Subject: Re: hitchcock, zappa, the usual
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
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In article <1992Dec12.224729.21058@Virginia.EDU> epb3r@Virginia.EDU writes:
>I've seen as many Hitchcock movies as I have access to and I'd
>like to watch the ones I haven't seen.  

I am trying to do the same. 

>Any info. on how I
>could see the following would be much appreciated:

>	Mountain Eagle  (2nd silent, 1927)

This film has been lost for nearly 60 years. The British Film Institute is
currently searching archives across the world for a copy along with many 
other important lost films. Their chances are finding it are extremely low.

>	Juno & the Paycock (2nd sound, 1930)

I got my NTSC VHS copy from Mr. Dickens Books and Video in Sacremento, 
phone: 800-228-4246. {Note: I have no connection with Dickens other than
being a satisfied customer}

>	Waltzes in Vienna (aka Strauss' Great Waltz) (7th, 1933)
                ^^from

According to Martin & Porter's Video Guide, this film is available on video
in the US, but back in September Dickens said they couldn't get it. Things
may have changed since then so if you find a source please let me know.

>	Pleasure Garden (1st silent, 1927)
>	Downhill        (4th silent, 1927)

I haven't been able to locate these at all. Again, if anyone else knows a
source, please let me know. None of the usual movie guides list them as
being available on video.

>I'm also interested in anything AH co-directed (pre-Pleasure
>Garden stuff).  I actually made it through D. Spoto's book.

I believe all the films Hitch worked on prior to "The Pleasure Garden" are lost.

>Please use my email address as I'm not as familiar with this
>stuff.

A copy of this has been mailed, but I wanted to be sure other people
saw the requests for further info.

Cheers,

Col

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From: 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu
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Subject: Re: More problems with DieHard 2, (and Diehard 1)
Date: 18 Dec 1992 21:44:43 GMT
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In article <1gntffINNl22@eagle.natinst.com>, darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie) writes:
>When I originated this post, I didnt realize there were so many problems.
>(And I thought I was pretty good at discovering these things in movies.)
   (deletions)
>Anyway, I thought of 2 other things on Diehard 2.  When McClane was on the
>runway waving the 2 torches the guy in the tower picked up his binoculars
>and looked at him and said 'It's McClane'.  These must be some damn good
>binoculars to see during a snowstorm at night.

You just made me think of another one regarding those torches.  They burned
awfully brightly and for a long time for a scrap of cloth tied around
a metal pole.  This is a problem I have with any movie where the hero
uses a make-shift torch (remember the catacomb scene in Last Crusade?)
Harrison Ford picks up a bone, ties a scrap around it, dips it in the
oil and lights it.  The flame lasts forever and none of the oil drips
down the bone to his hand!

Despite its logic flaws, DHII was great fun.
 
Mary H.
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From: rjk@world.std.com (robert j kolker)
Subject: Oliver Stone's  THE BIBLE
Keywords: Oliver Stone
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:33:13 GMT

Would anyone like to speculate what the outcome would be if Oliver Stone
did THE BIBLE?.  Given his penchant for re-writting *real* history, how
would he rewrite biblical history?

Conan the Libertarian

-- 
"If you can't love the Constitution, then at least hate the Government"

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From: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Nhan Tran)
Subject: Highest gross movies
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:40:18 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp, Orlando, Fl


When people talk about the highest grossing movie, do they take into
account of inflation?  A more accurate measure would be listing 
of movies with largest number of sold tickets.
From: craiga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Craig R Albrechtson)
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Subject: Bit of Humor in A few good men
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:03:15 GMT
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I Noticed something funny in A few good men the other day
Its quite subtle but clever.

Minor spoilers



In the scene after cruse has his talk with NIcklsons character 
and he gives his I eat 300 yards form 4000 cubans speech

There is a scene Where Cruses character is sitting in his apartment
Watching a Baseball game on Television.

In that scene There is a brief close up of the television and sitting next
to the television is a Misery Chastane Romance Novel from Rob Riners 
last movie Misery.  I couldn't make out all of the title but it definatly
said Miserys and the second word was Loves I think.  But I definatly 
said Misery.
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From: gratrix@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jackie Gratrix)
Subject: Edward Scissorhands: a few questions
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:11:55 GMT


I watched this movie for the first time this past weekend
when it was broadcast on one of the premium channels.  
Unfortunately, I missed about the first 20 minutes.  Could
someone please tell me: what happened to him that he
ended up in such a condition (having scissors for hands);
is that black thing under his clothes another set of clothes,
or his body; is the Vincent Price character good or evil?
Thanks for the info!

Jackie Gratrix

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From: lorreen@meiko.com (Lorreen Pelletier)
Subject: Re: Black Holes of Cinema
Organization: Meiko Scientific Corp.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:30:11 GMT

lawrence@mail.isc-br.com (Lawrence Kelley) writes:
: In article <1992Dec17.214043.25217@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:
: > 
: > This may be a controversial or flame-baiting topic, but it relates to the 
: > "overrated" thread.  Black holes are cinema are people with no talent who keep 
: > making movies!
: 
: > Patrick Swayze Major major black hole!!!!
: 
: You obviously didn't see him in "Ghosts"
: 
: Lawrence
: 
What's obvious is that we saw too much of him in "Ghost"!  If there is
anything more negative than a black hole, Patrick Swayze is it.  I
personally can't believe that anyone can so much as look at this guy
without retching!  

--Lorreen

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From: rrb2x@Virginia.EDU (Richard Ramiaz Banks)
Subject: Re: My 1992 Picks
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:18:25 GMT

	I agree
	With grade 'B'
	Movies
	Bees
	Honey
	Grade 'B'
	I agree


	Rikilla the Hun is about to flunk his finals
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Subject: Re: most underated actress/actor
From: howard@grace.cri.nz (Howard Silby)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:54:37 GMT
Organization: Gracefield Research Centre


>In article <...> mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James) writes:
>>
>>I would vote for John Tuturro.
>>I rented Do the Right Thing and Barton Fink
>>back-to-back (not intentionally) and I was very impressed
>>by his perfomances in both movies.

John Turturro won best actor at Cannes for Barton Fink
so like Gene Hackman I would not say he is underrated.

Maybe a better choice of words is [courtesy Greg Bole]:
>I'd say the most under recognised actor and actress are:
>                       ~~~~~~~~~~
>Julian Sands
>and Judy Davis.

It is an interesting fact that many of the very best English speaking
actors/actresses are not all that well recognised.

John Turturro and Judy Davis are IMO the best examples -the latter with
critics awards last year for supporting actress in Barton Fink and
Naked Lunch, and again this year in Husbands and Wives would have
to be regarded as among the five or so best actresses around.

After a fair bit of thought a list of the 10 actors/actresses who have
generated the most positive critical comment or won awards over
the last 2-3 years would be: 
    ~~~~~~~~

Kenneth Branagh      John Turturro
Judy Davis           Emma Thompson
Daniel Day Lewis     Anthony Hopkins
Jeremy Irons         Robert de Niro
Jodie Foster         Nick Nolte

Of these Turturro and Davis are probably the least well-recognised.

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                            Wellington, N.Z
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From: a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly)
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:07:27 GMT

[deletia]

>
>     4.  This one almost caused an argument for me.  The British plane
>         whose fuel tanks were "dry as a martini" should not have 
>         exploded like that when it crashed.  
>

Sure it should have.  Fuel vapor is significantly more explosive than fuel
in it's liquid form.  A teacup full of kerosene will surface burn quite
merrily and safely if it's container can take the heat.  Evaporated in a
room and put to spark it will explode with something along the lines of 
the force in 4 sticks of dynamite, if memory serves properly.

>
>Mary H.


-Neal
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From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Subject: Re: What is Molly Ringwald doing
Keywords: molly ringwald
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:48:17 GMT

In article <Bz9uwG.DtL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William Shakespeare) writes:
>The Mollster was recently in an international film called _Night on Earth_.
>She played, I believe, a female New York cabbie.  I haven't seen the movie,
>so I can't comment on quality, but it is by the same guy who did _Stranger
>than Paradise_.

  Incorrect.  The female cabbie was Winona Ryder.  The director was
  Jim Jarmush.

	- Mika
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From: dianne@dianne.b24a.ingr.com (Dianne Ferrans)
Subject:  MST_3K
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:13:44 GMT


Forgive my obvious ignorance, but just what IS this?

What does MST 3K stand for? I've seen it a couple of times here.

Thanks!

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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Re : Top 5 vmovies
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 07:26:52 EST

panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:

> I like this thread.  My top 5 movies (thinking hard, now!)
> 
> 1. My Fair Lady
> 2. Dangerous Liaisons
> 3. Jane Eyre (the 1985 one with Timothy Dalton and Zelah Clarke)
> 4. Casablanca
> 5. The Russia House
> 
> P.S.  Of course tomorrow I'll change my mind and decide what I *really* 
> should have listed....
> 
> 


It's tomorrow, and of course I've changed my mind.  I forgot to put "The 
Lion in Winter" on the list.  I'd also like to put "The Emerald Forest" 
on the list but I'd have to take something else off and I can't think 
what, so I'll call it #6.

My revised list is as follows:

1. My Fair Lady, as representative of all musicals (because it is one of 
the best) and because it has all that witty Shavian dialogue, and because 
Audrey Hepburn is delightful and lovely.

2. Dangerous Liaisons, becuase it does what it does so delightfully.  
Funny, scary, clever, twisty....

3. Casablanca.  Why Casablanca?  I'm surprised anyone would ask.  Because 
it is the most romantic and heroic movie there is.  There's nothing 
pseudo-intellectual about it; it's a movie that hits to the heart and 
basic values and the marshmallow of my soul.  Rick is *the* 
quintessential romantic hero, the man who is noble and good and pretends 
to be otherwise.  That's why.

4. Jane Eyre, the 1985 one with Timothy Dalton and Zelah Clark.  Because 
this is the *perfect* rendition of a book that has been a favourite since 
childhood.  (They even improved on the original, which I wouldn't have 
thought possible.)

5. The Lion in Winter.  It has Timothy Dalton, too, doing a wonderful job 
as the wiley young French King.  It also has Katharine Hepburn (my 
favourite actress), Peter O'Toole (at his best) and other good people.  
It's a clever and funny look at my favourite historical family.

Will I revise again tomorrow?  No.  I promise.

Namaste,
Elizabeth
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Actor/Actress
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:42:02 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <3cm2!fp@rpi.edu>, kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:

> Overrated:
>   Actor - Kevin Costner

Ok, ok, after seeing Kevin Costner pop up on 5 out of the last 5 
"overrated actor" postings, I have to speak up.

What are you all using as criteria?  Does he make too much money?
Does he show up in too many movies?  Does he get talked about in the 
press too much?

As far as I know, Costner's never been awarded an Oscar for acting, he's
never recieved a critics award for acting...why is he overrated?

He's handsome, very charismatic, and he has been batting at leaast .800 in 
my book.  He just stars in some pretty fabulous films: _Silverado_, _Field 
of Dreams_, _The Untouchables_, _Dances With Wolves_.

Now if we want to talk overrated actors, what about actors that are called
great actors, and have won aclaim for *their acting* but you think are awful.

Like...Charlton Heston and Richard Harris (except in a few like _Unforgiven_).

Greg Bole                            "Don't shrug you moron, I'm blind!
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From: somnathb@wam.umd.edu (Somnath Banerjee)
Subject: rec.arts.wobegon
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:59:30 GMT

i have just moved to the rochester, ny area and cannot find garrison
keillor anywhere on my radio. if anyone can tell me what station
broadcasts his american radio company show it would be greatly
appreciated. the public radio station in this area, WXXI does not
seem to broadcast it, at least not at the usual times. help me get the
news from lake wobegon up here at lake ontario.

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From: julied@aix.rpi.edu (Diane Maria Julien)
Subject: Garrison and William Shawn
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:34:26 GMT

Did anyone record the program last Saturday evening (December 12)??

I have a friend that would like a PORTION of the program.  Specifically, 
the part where Garrison talked about his editor at the New Yorker, 
William Shawn, who died last week.

This portion of the show could not have taken more than five minutes.
Any old cassette would do.  

It seems that my friend's former English professor spent several years 
on staff at the New Yorker and (since she, herself, did not happen to 
catch last Saturday's show) she would like to hear what Garrison had to 
say about their mutual, late, friend.

Please send all follow ups to this note to Dave Schwartz, c/o BRS Software
Products, 1200 Route 7, Latham NY 12110.  Or, you can e-mail him at 
schwartz@brs.com.   Thanks.
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