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From: rbeltz@mbunix.mitre.org (Beltz)
Subject: Hunting Abilities: Lab's 
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:50:19 GMT


Hi folks,

	I guess I'll put my two cents in on this subject as well.  I also read
the original article in Hunting and Guns magazine and agree with it...I've 
seen too many gorgeous dogs who were dummer than dirt and believe that the AKC
is responsible for this trend.

	I would suggest than anyone who is worried about their pup's abilities
to work in the field should go and have their dog tested.  I found a couple of
gun-dog clubs in my area, in which one trainer invited us out for a look-see 
and to test the pup.  The long and the short of it is that my Field Spaniel
still has (has not been breeded out) his natural abilities as a flusher....
the rest of his training is up to me!  His breeding was strickly from show dog.




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From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Subject: Re: feeding times (was: New Puppy - Need Advice!!)
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:10:40 GMT

>]>>>   In our case, I leave
>]>>>   food and water for her at all times, again since we're not home ng
>]>>>   the day.
>]>>
>]>>Water, yes.  Food, no.  Only put down the amount of food that the pup
>]>>will consume in 1 sitting, and take the remainder away.
>]>
>]>Why do you think this is so important?
>]
>]For the same reason that it's not good for people to eat several dozen
>]times a day, they get fat.  At least that's the reasoning behind
>]following what people have been telling me for centuries.

My Corgis would be too fat if I let them eat as much as they want.  My adult
was free-fed until the vet told me to GET HER WEIGHT DOWN.  (oops)  The
pup was given as much as she wanted twice a day until her ribs disappeared
(I mean by this that I can feel a layer of fat over her ribs, so the ribs
disappeared to the touch, not to the eye) and now she gets a measured ration
twice a day.

Many people do not realize that their dogs are really a bit too fat.  
Especially dogs with short single coats.  Generally speaking, if you can't
readily feel the dog's ribs (the washboard effect), the dog is too fat.  I
didn't realize my first dog was too fat until the vet got on my case.  (That
was when she was 2.  She's now 11, active, full of life, and very healthy.
I believe that staying trim against her will has contributed to her health
and vitality....)

Another reason to feed on a schedule is that it makes it easier to housebreak.
If you control when your puppy eats, you have more control over when it will
eliminate.  For example, I like to feed them supper around 5-6 pm, so that 
they will have plenty of time to eat, DRINK, and eliminate before bed time.
From: loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:05:27 GMT
Subject: Re: S**t eating dog
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs


|The Airedale that owns me likes to nibble goose.poop when she finds it,
|along with eating and rolling in anything just as foul as she can find.
|
|Any way to break her of it?  I'd hate to have to change my lifestyle
|to adopt to hers, but at least I'd be able to tell who my friends are.
|
||~{(> ,  ;-{)>
|
|...Marty Masters & Mitakola the Airedale Terrorist
----------

	Hello Marty,

	As you probably have guessed this is a fairly common.  A trick
that some people do is feed the dog a lot of garlic powder.  This will
make the dog poop smell and hopefully deter any other dogs from dining
on the stuff.  The garlic powder/pills will help keep the fleas down,
you just have to put up with the smell.

	I hope this helps, Kirk
From: ben@monmouth.edu (Bennett Broder)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Are dogs color blind?
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:44:24 GMT
Organization: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, NJ  07764

In article <1992Aug26.120611.7537@anat.UMSMED.EDU> jbh@anat.UMSMED.EDU (James B. Hutchins) writes:
>Dogs don't see as well as we do, but they are great at things like motion
>detection. (Kiri, our foundling, can see a squirrel at 100 yds.)  They also
>smell a lot better than we.

Then you should really consider taking a shower!!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist)
:-) :-) :-)

-- 

Bennett Broder               Monmouth College
                             Computer Services
ben@monmouth.edu             W. Long Branch, NJ 07764
From: ryuen@BBN.COM (Ray Yuen)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Bichon Frise Question
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:12:27 GMT
Reply-To: ryuen@BBN.COM (Ray Yuen)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com



  I am the new, proud owner of a 10 week old Bichon Frise, and I was
told by the private breeder from whom I bought my dog that I should
periodically yank out the fur that grows around the ear canal.  The
reason behind this is to prevent infections from developing in the ears.

Now this sounds totally logical, but at the same time it sounds rather
cruel to inflict such pain to my dog.  Is this common practice for all
dogs that have floppy ears?  Are there other ways in which to prevent
ear infections?  Any help is greatly appreciated.

Also, a side question.  Is it safe to give my little Cassie a bath at
her young age?  I love her very much, but she has such a strong doggie
odor.

-Ray Yuen  (ryuen@bbn.com)
From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Request for show info/experiences
Date: 25 Aug 92 15:35:53 GMT
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Distribution: world
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

>TO: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu

You asked, if BOB dog is disqualified (I assume you mean later in the Group),
the BOB win is disallowed, and NO REPLACEMENT is made. That is, the BOS dog
keeps its award, and does not "move up" to BOB. 
**********************************
Marget Johnson
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From: mtlemmo@dcg.pacbell.com (Mark Lemmo)
Subject: Thyroid studies
Reply-To: mtlemmo@dcg.pacbell.com (Mark Lemmo)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:56:23 GMT

Does anyone know of where I can get my hands on any studies done invloving 
Thyroid levels in various breeds....

Thanks in advance..

Mark Lemmo

mtlemmo@dcg.pacbell.com



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From: Judy Conrad <judy@hpbsrl.boi.hp.com>
Subject: Breed recommendation for new dog owner
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:55:56 GMT
Organization: HP - NPR

Hi,

  I am trying to help a friend pick a dog and would like some help.

  The important info:

    -  Her husband has had dogs but she has not, I think that this will
        be her dog.
    -  She wants a big dog, prefers if it didn't shed.
    -  This will be a house dog (so low activity indoors).  They do have
        a fenced yard.

  I was thinking about a Giant Schnauzer or Standard Poodle.  What's the
thought of the net about these breeds?  Any suggestions for others?  

Thanks for the help!

Judy Conrad
judy@hpbsrl.hp.com
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From: emm@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ellen.m.mcsorley)
Subject: re: Newfies
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:56:32 GMT

As other Newf owners posted, Newfoundlands are a
WONDERFUL breed that LOVE kids!

BUT, as for any breed, remember, there are bad
breeders out there who breed sick, un-sound or
ill-tempered dogs.  A Newf with a bad temperment
is not a dog I'd want to run into in a dark alley,
but it can happen at a puppy mill.  A dog with
severe hip dysplasia which has not been diagnosed
can be nasty just from the pain.

As always, pick your breeder carefully!

Ellen (and Sophie and Arnie - the idiot Newfs!)

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From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Hunting ability in Labradors
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:58:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.182524.5775@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
    jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
 
>I don't know much about the UKC but aren't they mainly a working
>registree? How do they ensure that registered dogs are functional?
>Anyone have a clue?
 
I do know that they run hunting tests very similar to the type the
AKC run and award titles based upon a dogs performance.  They also
have a national hunting test title for dogs that qualify at the
national event. I plan on joining the HRC (Hunting Retriever Club,
affliated with the UKC) just as soon as I can find an entry form.
Membership in the HRC is required to run a dog in a UKC hunting test.
 
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x005cb@tamvm1.tamu.edu  |  Only 1 more day until the start of
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |           hunting season (in Texas)
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From: vib@fns-nc1.fns.com (Victor Bur)
Subject: Re: Dogs and Jogging
Organization: Fujitsu Network Switching
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 13:11:15 GMT


In article <47004@shamash.cdc.com> smp@aquarius1.Berkeley.EDU (Susan M Painter) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.182814.260@eos.arc.nasa.gov>, dencisco@eos.arc.nasa.gov (David Paul Encisco) writes:
>|> Should one wait until their dog is a certain age
>|> before one takes them jogging? Maybe I should be
>|> more specific since different breeds develop at
>|> different rates. But it would seem to me that not
>|> all breeds are suited for jogging (actually I run,
>|> not jog). Which brings me to my second question. 
>|> What breeds like to run with their owners?
>|> 
>|> Again (if you didn't read my previous post) a Bernese
>|> Mountain Dog owner told me that this breed was not a 
>|> good breed for jogging. That's odd I thought, looks like
>|> it would love to get out there on the trails; it certainly
>|> appears to have the vitality for it.
>|> 
>|> Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
>|> Dave
>
>I own a Bernese Mountain Dog and I would also agree that the breed is not
>a good breed for jogging.  But, it IS a good breed for LONG walks, if the
>dog is conditioned.  I have found that with my dog he loves long walks
>especially in the snow.  The breed was originally bred for pulling carts
>and at a comfortable speed (probably a good walking speed), they appear to
>be able to walk forever (or at least as long as I have needed him to walk)
>without complaining.  They do not have the stamina for lasting long at a
>jogging pace but do have plenty of stamina for keeping a walking pace.  I have
>often told people that their dog could probably out run my dog but that my dog
>could probably walk longer.  I hope this makes sense.  But remember, the
>dog must be conditioned.  We walk our dog several miles a day and he loves it.
>He gets very upset if we miss a day.  So yes, Bernese Mountain Dogs LOVE the
>trails and do have the necessary stamina just at a slower pace then a jog.
>
>Sue Painter
>Minnesota

My opinion: if you are experienced jogger/runner, NO dog is suitable for
you.  By "design", canines can deliver high speed for a short distance
(during the pray chaise, for example), but they are not built for a long,
steady running.  If you want to do that, watch for the damage you may
inflict on dog's hips, and also have an emergency kit ready for injuries
and/or overheating.

Best regards,
Victor

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls)
Subject: Re: Feeding Dogs Veggies and Fruit?
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:23:03 GMT

In article <17atdeINNmjc@gw.home.vix.com> shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell JD) writes:
>Tazi will eat almost anything, so far..she loves raw baby carrots,
>slices of zucchini, you name it.
>
>I was talking to a fellow dog owner yesterday, however, and she
>related to me that her vet chastized her one day, upon discovering
>that both she and her dog had had cantalope with breakfast.  Her vet's
>philosophy is that dog food is all a dog should have, ever.
>
>This led me to wonder about my own practices.  I never give Tazi any
>'treat' unless she has already eaten her own meal..but I figured
>eating pieces of fresh veggies could only be good for her, or at least
>certainly not bad  [I've avoided high acid veggies, like tomatos].
>
>Any thoughts/input on this?

Kelsey loves veggies, raw and cooked, and most fruits.  I'm pretty free
with the veggies, but have to watch the fruits (after her snout got all
bumpy shortly after she had a piece of my peanut butter and raspberry
jam sandwich).  We give her raw carrots instead of bones to munch on.
One of her favorite activities in the winter is digging up carrots and
beets that I missed harvesting.  She then lays down in the snow and
chomps away...the beets make wonderful, purple designs in the white snow
:-)

As for the vet, I would imagine that he has about as much nutritional
knowlege as the average doctor...which isn't much :-(

Robbin
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Subject: Re: Wheezing Dog
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 00:16:24 EDT

>
>>In article <1992Aug12.165626.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, cabarto@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>>> Every once in awhile (I'd say at least a couple of times a week),
>>> our one-year-old Bichon Frise starts wheezing.  She can't catch
>>> her breath -- these episodes last for 15-30 seconds.  After the
>>> episode is over, she is perfectly fine.
>>>
>>> We've been able to determine that it happens most often when she
>>> gets excited, but it also happens just out of the blue.  I've
>>> scheduled an appointment with the Vet, but I'm curious if
>>> anyone else has experienced this problem and if it may be
>>> unique to Bichon's.
>
I'm not sure if the problem is unique to bichons, but mine has certainly
experienced it.  Shana is a year-and-a-half old female bichon, and she
often has these spells, which our vet called "inverted sneezes."  He
seemed to think that it was in some way related to the kennel cough she
had as a small puppy.  (We only got her when she was six months old, so I
don't know how severe her case was.)  Did your bichon have kennel cough or
any related respiratory diseases in the past?
 
 
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From: bws20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Ultimate dog treat was Re: dog digs holes
Summary: You could make your fortune
Date: 24 Aug 92 00:24:14 GMT
Reply-To: bws20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Ellen Lewis wrote about her dog digging holes, and also mentioned:

>Incidentally, what my dog is doing that I want to discourage is eating
>cat poop.My neighbors feed (and don't care for) all the stray cats in the
>neighborhood and they (the cats, not my neighbors, yet, anyway) use my
>yard as their litter-box.Lucy, my 15-week-old Australian Shepherd, thinks
>this is the yummiest thing ever. Even after it's made her too sick to eat
>her puppy-chow, she doesn't lose her taste for it. Granted the ideal
>solution would be to train my neighbors to be responsible pet owners,
>but I think Lucy is considerably brighter and catches on to new ideas
>quicker.
>
>It's worth a try...
>
>-ellie

Cat poop has to be the all time greatest dog treat.  One day somebody is
going to take some, microwave it or irradiate it to kill any parasites or
microorganisms, freeze-dry it, package it, and make a fortune.  No dog
will be able to resist--dogs'll turn up their noses at liver treats after
they've tried this.  The show crowd would love it cause their dogs would
stack perfectly and never twitch during the examination. What would be
the best name for this most perfect of treats?  Dog Manna?   Essence of
Cat?

you read it here first.

bws
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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: feeding times (was: New Puppy - Need Advice!!)
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:28:19 GMT


Well, we free feed our Cocker Spaniel. She just doesn't eat much as she is
a very SMALL Cocker Spaniel (12 inches at the withers...she was the runt)
and she probably doesn't NEED that much. We fed her IAMS as a puppy, 
which she liked alright. Then our vet suggested we switch her to 
Science Diet as an adult. So we did and she only ate when she was 
starving. So then we found NutroMax (and in the small dog
size too) which she loves, yet she's still not fat. In fact, she's a very
trim doggie. (wish I had HER waistline) She doesn't overeat either.
Theonly problem we have with free feeding is that the cats (who
are also free fed) like to eat her food! We kept her out of theirs
by placing it on a box, but them out of hers, impossible. Now that
we are planning on getting a puppy, to keep the Cocker out of
the puppy food, we plan on feeding the pup meals and crate
training it so it won't be eating Baeki's food. After the pup is about
 a year, we let it roam the house, like we did Baeki and they can
both eat adult food.

Well, that's my $0.02

kay Schlumpf and everybody 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Subject: Re: Puppy ID collars
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:20:09 GMT

>In article <1992Aug27.020250.11373@oz.plymouth.edu> michaelc@oz.plymouth.edu (Mike Clark) writes:
>>We are expecting a litter of little germans here on September 16th (YAY)
>>and I remember back about 10 years ago when I had my last litter, I
>>had trouble keeping track of who's puppy was who's etc...I have heard
>>about some little ID collars you can buy, they come in different
>>colors or something so you can mark the pups and keep track of
>>them...However, I have not been able to locate any through my catalogs
>>or any pet stores...Anyone have any ideas???

	Just by chance, I found the collars this morning when I was drinking my
first cup of coffee! I received a new catalog in the mail yeterday, and guess
what - the collars were in there. The catalog was J-B Wholesale Pet Supplies at
1-800-526-0388. They were about $8-9 for a set of 6 (I don't have all the
details at work with me because I left the catalog at home). They come in 10"
or 12" lengths. Of course, these lengths won't work for very young puppies, but
they could be used close to the time that the puppies are ready to go home.

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From: tnelson@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Anthony Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Mailmen and Dogs
Date: 24 Aug 92 04:47:17 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia



    I am a big dog lover. I also was a mailman for 3 years. I found
    through my experiences that a lot of my co-workers hated dogs
    and never made any efforts to get along with them. Most of them
    actually went out there way to annoy and hurt dogs. I found this very
    frustrating as I knew if they made a little initial effort they could 
    get on well with mans best friend . When I started delivering a round I was 
    warned about a particular dog ( a long haired German Shepard ). Having 
    two shepards of my own I know that a lot of the stuff about this breed 
    is exagarated. They are a very excellent dog apart from sometimes being 
    "too loyal" , protective and very teritorial. Anyway I finally met 
    the dog in question and our first few meetings did not go well. He 
    (or she we never got that intimate ) stood near the mailbox and growled 
    at me but didnt approach. Once I felt confident enough I got of my bike
    and slowly walked up to him. He was still growling but the tail started 
    waggling a bit. Eventually contact was made, I rubbed his ears and after 
    that he would wait for me  each day and we got on great.
    If only people could make the effort to get on with dogs instead of thinking
    that humans are the only life on this planet. Just because a dog barks
    doesnt mean it will bite.

    Tony Nelson (dog lover)

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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Puppy ID collars
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 21:15:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.020250.11373@oz.plymouth.edu> michaelc@oz.plymouth.edu (Mike Clark) writes:
>We are expecting a litter of little germans here on September 16th (YAY)
>and I remember back about 10 years ago when I had my last litter, I
>had trouble keeping track of who's puppy was who's etc...I have heard
>about some little ID collars you can buy, they come in different
>colors or something so you can mark the pups and keep track of
>them...However, I have not been able to locate any through my catalogs
>or any pet stores...Anyone have any ideas???
>
I don't know how to find the collars you are describing, but I thought
the  Monks of New Skete had a pretty good idea in their book, "The Art
of Raising a Puppy."  They tied different colored and sized rick-rack
around the puppies' necks.  You can buy this in any fabric store.

schalene
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: Message to Pat Smith
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:56:46 GMT

Pat,

You sent a message through this newsgroup that you had trained
your dog to get along with a cat.  I have a very aggressive
cocker spaniel (see previous news item) who loves to chase cats.
I may be moving soon and will be living with a friend who has
a cat.  I would like to see the article you sent about how you
got your two animals together.  I tried to e-mail you directly,
but must have written your e-mail address down incorrectly.

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

I can be e-mailed at llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu