HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: epang@fraser.sfu.ca (Eugene Pang)
Subject: Re: GadTools bugs?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:46:13 GMT

Doug "Bish" Bischoff EMT-MAST <DEB110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>     GadToolsBox, of course.

I hope you're using GadToolsBox v1.3, 37.111 (or later).  [Look on Fred
Fish disk 659.]

>I click the Right Mouse Button.... and the "Click on Gadget to Move"
>goes away and the whole program locks.  Won't do anything.  The menus come up,
>but selecting something doesn't work.  I can't even quit 'cept by cancelling
>the task, etc.

Sorry, I couldn't reproduce this bug.  Have you checked that there isn't
a gadget edit window behind your work window?
From: espie@basilic.ens.fr (Marc Espie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: MakeScreen(); RethinkDisplay() vs. MakeVPort(); MrgCop(); LoadView()
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:13:06 GMT
Organization: LIENS, ENS, 45 rue d'Ulm, Paris (France)

In article <33307@cbmvax.commodore.com> peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.192458.5966@spuddy.uucp> spark@spuddy.uucp (Steve) writes:
>>
>>It's about time the slowness of ReThinkDisplay() was discussed. If
>>it wasn't so slow, we'd e able to hvae copper scrolling, among other things.
[Bad example IMHO]
>
>Intuition gives you features, but that comes with overhead.  Intuition
>is pretty efficient for the most part, especially given its responsibilities
>vis the kinds of things it has to achieve and support.  RethinkDisplay()
>is slow because it potentially has a lot of work to do.  Far more than
>you probably realize.
>
>If you can't stomach the overhead (and you're certain there's no better way
>-- see below!), then you have to do without the features Intuition supplies.
>That is, you have to make your own view and viewports.
>
>>If CBM can't speed up RTD(), how about adding some kind of special support
>>for the above kind of scrolling. Sure would make text editors look nice.
>
>It seems that several programmers are able to achieve significant scrolling
>performance, and in a window, no less.  And in a window is where a text
>editor belongs.  No copper trick lets you scroll text in an Intuition window.
>If you don't believe me, check out the various high-performance text editors
>such as TurboText, CygnusEd, and others.
[There I agree with Peter Cherna]
>
>RethinkDisplay() is the general "I munged a screen, please make everything
>happy again" function.  We're not going to supply specialized mini-versions
>to handle each potential sub-case.
>
Alright, not every potential subcase.
How about support for double-buffering at the intuition level ? 
I don't think I'm the only person who would like that. There is support for
strange things like dual-viewports, why not double-buffering ?
I know how to do it with my own view, but it is cumbersome, and you have to
reinvent the wheel... Stealing the mouse from intuition, building your own
menus (eventually) restoring back everything when needed. What a hastle.
It would be more impressive (and more useful) if intuition had a mechanism
for it. Short of going through RethinkDisplay(), is there any
intuition-friendly trick available ? I'm not aware of any.

Even with a 68030, RethinkDisplay() still takes too much time... 
Kind of sad if you want real-time 3D graphics.
The 68882 is fast enough, but not RethinkDisplay(). 
Oh well. I'll step down from my soap-box now.
-- 
     Marc Espie (espie@ens.fr)
`In Unix, no one can hear you scream.
Sys V R4, the final battle. 
The aliens are ALREADY among us.'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: help creating fonts
From: landall_v@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:24:52 GMT
Reply-To: landall_v@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

Hi

Can someone please help me ?   I would like to create my own fonts for a 
program I am making.  I need to know how to do this in C.

I am using SAS/C 5.10a.

THANKS

PS  Does anyone have any examples and the source for them ???

Later
-landall_v@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: PDC Library Prob
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:40:28 GMT

	I have been working with PDC (Publicly Distributable Compiler) for a
few months, and there is one problem I have yet to figure out:  It won't accept
the rand() command (or srand() for that matter).  I type in ccx mine.c, and the
only error that comes up is that _rand and _srand are undefined symbols.  Am
I linking the wrong libraries?  Should I try to get a real compiler?  Is there
a way to incorporate a more complete set of libraries into PDC (the compiler
itself is great; it's the dubious library support that gets me).


	Thanks for any and all help!

		jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu
From: ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Libraries Collection
Keywords: Library
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:50:48 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

Hiya.
  I very quickly (and badly *8) ) put together a collection of libraries
(including docs, and include files etc. etc.). I found these up on
UK.AC.HENSA.MICROS (formerly UK.AC.LANCS.PDSOFT our National PDSoftware
Archive).

I've put the file 'Lib-Collection1.lha' in the 'systems/amiga/incoming/dev'
directory of WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU ( IP:- 128.252.135.4 )

Hopefully, I'll be able to submit more (time willing!), and they'll be
better presented than this archive has been. Sorry it's so messy!

All the library packages have documentation etc. These files are
presented UNCHANGED from the format that they appear in on HENSA!

The reason for collating these together was that I couldn't find them ANYWHERE
else and I thought that maybe other programmers were having the same problems.

The libraries included are NOT neccesarily the latest versions, but they are
the latest that I have been able to find.

Hope they're of some use,

EthaStorm   *8)
Contact me with ANY problems at
     Steff.Watkins@bristol.ac.uk


Files in archive     Usages
================     ======

FRQLIB.LZH           file requester library package 
COMMODIT.ZOO         commodities library package
LHLIB.ZOO            Lempel/Ziv/Howe compression library package
MATHTRAN.ZOO         Mathtrans !!!!!
INTUISUP.ZOO         Intuition Support library package
ARPTOOLS.ZOO         ARP tools library package
STREPLAY.ZOO         Sound-Tracker load/play library package
POINTERL.ZOO         Mouse-pointer control library
TOOLLIBR.ZOO         Various Math tools library package
From: WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Scripts from Scripts
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:51:19 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Yes. You can execute another script by using  "@scriptfile.scp" for
native language scripts or "@scriptfile.vlt" for ARexx scripts. However,
these scripts run asynchronously, i.e. the script from which you execute
them will continue on with the next command.

       Willy.
----------
Willy Langeveld - Bitnet: WGLP09 @ SLACVM - BIX: langeveld
From: consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Kriston J. Rehberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: JRCOMM Crash
Date: 23 Jul 92 06:07:42 GMT
	<1992Jul16.175759.841@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>
	<CONSP03.92Jul17231553@bingsunb.cc.binghamton.edu> <3373@faatcrl.UUCP>
Organization: Binghamton University Computing Services - The POD Staff

In article <3373@faatcrl.UUCP> jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:

>>Sorry, but I used a copy of JR-Comm downloaded directly from:
>>1) his BBS
>
>  Interesting, as the BBS has no account with your name...

I called it once about 6 months ago...

>>You are wrong.  JR-Comm has a bug here.  But I don't give a shit
>>anymore because I use VLT for serious usage.
>
>  If you don't give a shit, why bother commenting about it?

Because I had the time (hehe).
JRComm is still a good program, however I think a bit more (or even
less) work should have gone into the protection mechanism.

>  -jack-

Kris

--
Kriston J. Rehberg, POD Consultant          consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu
Binghamton University Computing Services    CONSP03@BINGVAXA.BITNet
#include <stddisclaimer.h>                  "Labra lege:  Hackito ergo sum"
"Your lack of common decency reminds me of a computer" - emacs M-x flame
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: tommyi@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Tommy The King)
Subject: Re: What is the best BBS?
Reply-To: tommyi@minsk.docs.uu.se 
Organization: DVL, Uppsala University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 09:40:22 GMT

jwaris@pdrome.UUCP (Jeffrey Waris) writes:

>That is great. I am glad we have another C-Net supporter here, outside of a
>select few there are not many around here that will defend it.

Haha!  Not strange!  C-Net is a big JOKE!  It takes a lifetime to config
and a complete reconfig is a MUST since NO user understands a thing from
C-Nets default config!

_______  __ ______          _______ 
\  ___ \ \_|\  __ \\ /\   /\\  ___ \  /\          !! 1.2 Gig Amiga !!
 \/| |\ \| ||\/_/ // \ \ /  \\/| |\ \/  \
   | | \ \ ||    / \_/ // /\ \ | | \ \/\ \      +46-(0)18-463380 HST/V.32
   \ | / / |\ |\ \\   // /__\ \\ | / /__\ \     +46-(0)18-463381 HST
    \|/ / \| \|/ / \_//_____\\_\\|/ /___\\_\    +46-(0)18-463383 2400
      \/       \/                 \/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: epang@fraser.sfu.ca (Eugene Pang)
Subject: Re: AmigaNOS
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:13:13 GMT

ramsch@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Martin Ramsch) writes:
>Does anybody know where to get the newest Amiga version of the KA9Q NOS
>package (basically developt on ibm compatbles)?

The newest Amiga version?  John Heaton (J.Heaton@MCC.ac.uk) is the maintainer
of the port now.  The latest can be found on his machine: 130.88.202.27.
Please ftp outside normal hours (GMT).  The official NOS site is ucsd.edu.
Look in hamradio/packet/tcpip/ in amiga/ and/or incoming/.  I believe the
latest Amiga version is 2.9d.

>I have the version V2.9 of AmigaNOS, but it has no docs and the docs
>of the pc version don't cover all subject, because the pc and Amiga
>version differ in several aspects (though they work together great).

That's because noone has volunteered to document the differences.  From the
"Read-Me" file:

  "Note that complete documentation in the form of source code is
   provided if you really want to figure out what it does."

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: dwjohnso@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID WILLIAM JOHNSON)
Subject: Re: sz problem
Originator: dwjohnso@c00037-5pa.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: dwjohnso@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID WILLIAM JOHNSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:33:42 GMT


> >I've gotten 237 and occasionally even 238 cps out of VLT using a rather old
> >Supra 2400.  Not often, admittedly, but that's obviously not the fault of
> >VLT then.  Perhaps the fact that my machine has a 68030 makes a difference,
> >but I doubt this can be very significant at only 2400 baud ...
> >	Perhaps you should look into system load both on your machine and
> >the other end.  Our systems here occasionally get so busy that the transfer
> >rate dropped to around 100 cps but again that wasn't VLT's fault either.
> >	Are you using Fast RAM for the transfer or is all this happening in
> >Chip RAM?
> >
> 
> I test the same file under the same condition. For Jr-Comm, I got 232
> cps. For VLT, I got 211 cps. 
> 

I download using sz and Vlt and routinely get 232 cps although it may take 
a few packets to get up to that speed.  A different zmodem problem I have
is trying to use Zmodem through our campus Xyplex servers.  They choke
whenever I use zmodem, ymodem, and xmodem.  Vlt gives an error like data
too long or bad framing error.  Not sure exactly but it freaks out on any
binary files.  Works fine for text.  So I am reduced to using KERMIT :(
Please email any suggestions.  Thanks in advance.
-- 
******************************************************************
* David Johnson          *         " Reality is                  *
* North Carolina State   *               not all                 *
* Go Pack !!!!           *                  it's cracked         *
* Go Canes !!!!          *                      up to be "       *
***********   145 days and a wakeup   ****************************
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: FCC considering "modem fees" again
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:22:45 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <3437@faatcrl.UUCP>

I guess I'm spoiled by Portal; $44/month gives me 30 hours of v32 access.

No offline reader, yet. But with that kind of time, I'm not all that
worried about the clock ticking.

(note: portal is $14 a month unlimited access, PC Pursuit v32 is $30 for
30 hours. If you're local to portal, then you can hook up forever 3or
$14 a month).

TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
sun!portal!cup.Portal.com!Tomk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: ged@phantom.cs.hut.fi (Camillo S{rs)
Subject: Re: SupraFAXmodem 14.4 question - BUGS??
Reply-To: Camillo.Sars@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:19:19 GMT

In <1992Jul21.155021.26536@wam.umd.edu> walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann) writes:

>I connect with my SupraFAX V.32bis modem to the University, whose modems
>are currently V.32 (NOT bis) and V.42bis.  I get 9600 LAP-M V.42bis and
>nothing I do seems to be able to get 12000 or even 14400 baud.  Is this the
>maximum I can get when connecting to a V.32 modem and will this improve
>when they upgrade to V.32bis?

First of all, don't use BAUD when you mean BPS (Bits Per Second), they
are different units, and BAUD doesn't describe the data rate at all.

The V.32 standard only supports speeds up to 9600 bps, so you won't be
seing 12000 nor 14400 until your university upgrades to V.32bis. This
is the rate between the modems, but that is NOT the same as the
computer-modem rate. As you get a BTLZ compressed connection you
should set your telecomm software to 4 times the connection rate.
This is the theoretical maximum throughput. A DTE-DCE rate of 2 or 3
times the modem rate will be enough in most cases.

>I've had no trouble with my modem at all and get a fairly consistent 1080
>cps with .lzh files, between 1400 and 1800 cps with plain binaries, and up
>to 2700 cps with ascii text transfers.  Just thought you'd like to know.

This indicates that you already have your DTE-DCE rate set correctly,
as the compression is working well. You should consider yourself
lucky, I only get ~900 cps, as my university only supports 9600 bps,
no compression whatsoever!

--
ged@hut.fi                   Amiga 500 //
ged@niksula.cs.hut.fi             2.04// Aim for the impossible and you
Department of Computer Science    \\ //   will achieve the improbable.
Helsinki University of Technology  \X/     --- Camillo S{rs
From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Reading the Mail (was Re: About SANA-II and network developments)
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 20 Jul 92 20:06:55 EDT
Organization: Private UUCP Node

In article <32974@cbmvax.commodore.com> gregm@cbmvax.commodore.com (Greg Miller - Amiga Networking) writes:
> >No way to read/send mail thru ethernet...

> >(Yes CBM, I know, your NFS works well but it's only a client implementation
> >and it's the only part of as225 how works not too bad)

Uh, I cannot think of any reason why you couldn't use any of:

            1) DMail    (part of Dillon's AmigaUUCP package)
            2) AmigaELM
            3) MetaMail
            4) GMail    (coming soon :))

for reading mail. Sending mail is a little more complicated, and would probably
require a small ARexx script (perhaps not with MetaMail, I'm not comfortable
with all of its capabilities). There are patches to DMail to make it support
SMTP and BSMTP directly.
--
  //   Michael B. Smith
\X/    mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us  -or-  uunet.uu.net!virginia.edu!adastra!mbs
From: malmberg@umsa8.umd.edu (Norwin Malmberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: downloading from an internet machine - HOW??!
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:12:15 GMT

crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>I am at my wits end...
>I call from my Amiga to a Micom switcher at the university here and telnet to
>glia (a unix machine).

>I tried zmodem.  I get timeouts after 3/4's of the file has been transferred.

Try fooling with the options -l, -L, and -w on the sz command on the UNIX
side.  I have had the timeout problem when connecting to machines where
there are a lot of machines (or data switches) in between.  For example:

sz -l 1024 file.c

Hope this helps.

Norwin Malmberg
Technical Support
University of Maryland System Administration
malmberg@umsa.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic)
Subject: Problems downloading with Term
Reply-To: pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:25:26 GMT


When trying to download with Term 2.2b using the Zmodem library I get a
"can't access file" (or something similar, can't remember the exact message) and
the download aborts. This happens with different BBS systems including GENIE
and setting different download paths doesn't help. I have a floppy based 
system running OS2.04. Anyone know how to get this to work?

-- 
Pete Babic  -  pab@po.cwru.edu          ///
I'd rather be on a boat or a           ///  /\
roller coaster. Member of A.C.E  \\\  ///  /--\MIGA  
(American Coaster Enthusiasts)    \\\/// Humpty Dumpty was pushed!
From: pwappy@well.sf.ca.us (Jeff Walkup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: To Jack Radigan; Regarding JR-Comm 2.0+
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:52:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


Jack, that 2-scanline front-to-back gadget you are putting in JR-Comm2.0;
that *is* all the way in the upper-right corner, isn't it???  Like it's
supposed to be under WB2.0??  Gosh I hate poking around for the current
'hidden' gadget.

Just checking ;^)
From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GVP multi-port card
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:13:44 GMT
Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Jul27.044951.8006@afterlife.ncsc.mil> bkwilli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bryan Williams) writes:
> In response to: 
> >Article 5247 (46 more) in comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:
> >From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
> >  When you buy a PC card, you are getting just that - a CARD.  When you buy an
> >Amiga serial device solution, you get a serial board AND a driver.
>  
>  
> Yes, that is true. BUT I think you jumped off the dock, over the boat, and into
> the water on the other side. The nice thing about PC's is that they DON'T NEED
> EXTRA SOFTWARE!!!! It is all supported through the COM1: thru COM4: bios
> support, plug & play, basically. It isn't quite that simple, but it isn't
> impossible to do either. -- ie, port jumper selection, IRQ, etc.

Come on!  The BIOS fossil drivers are NOT supporting serial comms properly.
In fact, serial access is supported so badly, that you will HAVE TO write
your own driver, if it is to work properly...


-- 
     Jesper Kehlet, Compos Mentis Software Systems -- A Kind Of Magic

        (uunet|pyramid|rutgers)!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmden!kehlet!kehlet
             cbmehq!cbmden!kehlet!kehlet@cbmvax.commodore.com

     "Yet another emotional suicide, overdosed on sentiment and pride"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: ewong@ucs.ubc.ca (Eldon Wong)
Subject: Re: Ethernet networking?
Organization: University of B.C. Computing Services
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:24:17 GMT



>would be happy to be able to share a common drive.  I know there is software to
>do this over a serial connection, but how about over an ethernet connection.  I
>have the C= software, but there is no server components to it, just client. One

Sorry, what I meant to say was there is no NFS server component.
Admittedly, I haven't given much thought to using the ftpd
or rshd utilities that came with the software. I was hoping there was something
that would allow me to see a shared drive on both machines as an icon (like NFS)
since the last thing my wife wants to do is learn the command line. :-)

Many people have suggested that I use these utilities and write a script to
access the printer on the BB side.  I'll see what I can do with scripts and
hopefully setting up icons to make it easier for her.

Sigh, it doesn't look like there is going to be an easy solution for me, but
thanks for all the info so far.
 
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|                                        |  University of British Columbia |
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From: robertk@taoami.lerctr.org (Robert Kesterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 14,400 Crashes my A3000!!!!  HELP!
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:06:02 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <9207227402@genesis.nred.ma.us> nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo) writes:
> In article <cem3NB1w164w@cellar.org> swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur) writes:
> >strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis) writes:
> >
> >> I have gotten no remedy in my troubles with 14,400 baud on this
> >> system.  I am running an Amiga 3000, and an Infotel V.32 Bis
> >> External Fax modem.  Every time I connect to V.32 bis lines of
> >> out-of-town BBS's (although all the modems that crash my computer
> >> happen to be old HST DS's), my Amiga crashes with either a guru
> >> 80000005 or a guru 80000004.  This happens while the modem is
> >> negotiating transfer protocols.
> > ...
> >> My machine still crashes.
> >>
> >> It should be noted that my computer has never ever crashed with my
> >> 9600 v.32/v.42bis Cardinal locked at either 19.6 or 38.4!  Jack
> >> Radigan blames serial.device.  WHAT DO I DO?  HOW DO I STOP THIS
> >> FROM CRASHING MY COMPUTER?  HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[ stuff deleted ]
> >P'rhaps it will be fixed in the newer release of Jr-Comm ... or, pr'haps you
> >could try some of the other Term. pgms. out there? (Ncomm, Term 2.0, etc.)
> >
> >-steve
>   I've got that same problem!  I am using my friends V.32 until I buy
> my V.32bis this week (hopefully!), and SOME of the time when I am using
> the directory and the dialing window when I connect at V.32 and close
> the dialing window I get a GURU.  I forget the #. If I use ATDT it works
> fine, and after that...I USUALLY don't get a GURU when using the dialer
> window.  I thought it was my generic RAM board.. I dunno.
>

Try a different terminal program.  I am running a USR v.32bis external modem
on my A3000 and have *never* had a crash with it using either VLT or Getty/UUCP.

--

======================================================
 Robert Kesterson 	    robertk@taoami.lerctr.org
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