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From: lynn@eros.cc.columbia.edu (Lynn Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: Rumeal to Nets
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:48:08 GMT

In article <BxBBL2.5D4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy  
J ) writes:
> 	Hmm... I'm wondering if the Hawks knew something about Hinson
> 	that the Nets didn't.  After all, it makes no sense to trade for
> 	an injured player and then have to pay his salary if he can't  
play.

actually, the nets have to pay hinson's salary unless he actually plays  
for the hawks.  

lynn





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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri "Droopy" Farenell)
Subject: Suns address (REPOST)
Summary: Phoenix, address
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:52:21 GMT

Does anyone out there know the address of the Phoenix Suns?

If so, could you please post or email me. Thanks.
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From: jhak@sofya.math.byu.edu (Justin Hakanson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Ro, Otis, and 'Zo
Keywords: Rolando otis alonze
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:29:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: byu.#}#
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah

In article <BxGr5x.4wn@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cnahm@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Charles Nahm) writes:
>Hello I was wondering if anyone out there has any
>info regarding the statuses(statii???) of Rolando
>Blackman, Otis Thorpe, and Alonzo Mourning.
>
>Any news would be appreciated.

Blackman was having back-spasms in the pre-season, but is now playing off the
bench.

Thorpe has an injured kidney and I don't know how long he'll be out.

Mourning, as of this moment (so far as I know), is unsigned, but George
Shinn (Owner) has stepped into the negotiations.

Justin.
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From: wgr@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: P.M. Dawn and NIKE
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:10:24 GMT

In article <1689CC152.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>My point is that Bulls fans want to laugh at "If you're bad, go to Detroit"
>as if their team is the greatest that has ever been and ever will be, and as
>if Detroit is really the worst. I brought up the record to show that things
>change, and that the Bulls have really not yet accomplished anything more
>than the Pistons did in the past 10 seasons. And unless they 3peat, they
>still won't have proven themselves better over the long run.

There's a misunderstanding here.  I don't think the original article quoted
the commercial correctly.  The guy says, "But Master, what if we *behave*
badly?" (emphasis mine).  It's just another reference to the Bad Boys image,
not a comment on the Pistons' basketball ability.

Pretty good game last night between Chicago & Detroit.  Isiah was on fire.
I'm not sure why Jackson didn't let Paxson play more in the 2nd half.  He
seems to do a better job on Isiah than BJ does.  Maybe he figures it's time
for BJ to learn how to check him.  Jordan hit a very long 3 to win it as
time expired in OT.

No way the Hornets will trade for Rodman.  George Shinn wouldn't be able
to stand having a guy with all those tatoos on his team.
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Loy Vaught
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:25:27 GMT

rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola) writes:
>Don't know about current health status, but if u r a celtic fan (I assume),
>then u should be thrilled about getting Vaught for Barry. (that provisional
>upon who the "other player" is). Loy is a strong rebounder and competent
>inside defender. Decent touch on short (<12') jumpers...Plays hard
>consistently and has adapted to the pro game. Perhaps the best pro
>of the Michigan group that won National Championship in '89 (Rumeal Robinson,
>Terry Mills, Sean Higgins)

	Umm... I think you're forgetting about a guy named Rice?
	(He only averaged about 20 ppg last year...)

	Jazzy J
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From: pc0837@sarah.albany.edu (COHEN PAUL L)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: KNICKS
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:55:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: sarah.1992Nov10.145506.28342
Organization: State University of New York at Albany

In article <1992Nov9.180445.8442@pdn.paradyne.com> vince@paradyne.com (Vince Ciletti) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.000036.13858@cbfsb.cb.att.com> wine@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (edward.j.winemiller) writes:
>>In article <1deb20INN2ia@male.EBay.Sun.COM> donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>>>You are dreaming buddy, Golden State win the championship.
>>>
>>>Season starts tonight, so here's my prdiction.
>>>
>>>Knicks vs. Cleveland in the Eastern Finals
>>>Golden State vs. San Antonio in the West
>>>
>>>Knicks vs. Golden State in the Finals
>>>
>>>Knicks win championship
>>>
>>>GO KNICKS
>>>
>>>                               Paul
>>>
>>
>>	So tell us Paul, do believe in Santa Claus & the Easter
>>	bunny also?		
>
No! I don't need to believe in fantasies. We have Ewing, Smith, Blackman,
Pat Riley(the greatest coach ever) and our new loaded gun, HUBERT DAVIS.

But most importantely, we'll have the doubters like yourself running for
your life by the ALL-STAR BREAK.

It's been a great run for Chicago, but now its time to bring the championship
back to NEW YORK.

Paul
From: 5checki_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: HUDSON RIVALRY IN THE MAKING!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:31:01 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US


	

	Isn't it great to see a Hudson River Rivalry once again?  The Knicks, 
despite their changes, look to be one of the NBA's Best once again.  They're 
two deep at the forward position, and their guards have performed well thus 
far.  If they can get the monster efforts from Patrick Ewing, WATCH 
OUT!!! This Is Championship Material.  With a marquee coach, guards that can 
make the plays like Greg Anthony and Doc Rivers, and good shooters like John 
Starks and Rolando Blackman, the team could conceivably win the NBA 
Championship.  The Nets are about where the Knicks were when Rick Pitino waved 
his magic wand in NY, and turned the Knicks into Knicks University.  If Chuck 
Daly can discipline Derrick Coleman and Chris Morris to make them consistently 
fly to their potential.  If Kenny Anderson is the God Send the Nets thought he 
was two years ago, and if Drazen Petrovic shoots the way he did last season, 
the Knicks and the Nets could be a frightening one-two punch in the Atlantic.  
Tonight, I look for the Knicks to perform well, and win by a score of 96-88, by 
playing great defense.  However, the Nets are an exciting team, and should 
unseat the Celts for second place.  
			GO KNICKS
							"Michael Jordan is the 
							 Most ruthless man on 
                                                         this earth."  
							 Mark Checki 5/17/92
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From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro,alt.binaries.pictures.d
Subject: Re: NBA logos - The final chapter
Keywords: Pacific division done
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:39:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd2.1992Nov9.163951.12894
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Phoenix, AZ



Thanks!  Even had the news Suns' logo in there!

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From: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM (Don Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Opening nite
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:55:09 GMT
Reply-To: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dswalker.ebay.sun.com

GS whipped UT. haha.
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From: a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager)
Subject: Rules? Moves?
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:05:17 GMT

Hi there

I'm (relatively) new to the sport. I wonder if the rules of the game are
available anywhere for ftp? Also, I would like a list of what the 
different "moves" are called, and how they are performed

We get German commentary here, and sometimes I think the commentator is a
bit clueless. He only seems to know the names of a few moves, and uses 
only those.         

Appreciate any info!

Riaan (a2824ag@sunmanager.lrz-muenchen.de)

GO BULLS!!!!
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From: bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom)
Subject: Re: Expansion???
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:38:14 GMT

In <18915@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ksmoore@taco.engr.ucdavis.edu (Kevin S. Moore) writes:

>In article <100493@bu.edu> sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn) writes:
>>
>>And another thing that worries me: anyone who comes to America from 
>>another country ( USSR in my case ) notices an average American NBA'er
>>is less smarter in game sense than an average Europian. There are a lot
>>of bench warmers who are phisical and athletic yet can barely hold on to
>>a team because of lack of basketball thought. Bird was the smartest ever,
>>second maybe only to Dr. Naismith. Volkov. Schrempf being at 6'10" can do
>>things many of smaller guys can't. Divac is extremely smart, yet because
>>of phisical nature of NBA he can't really blossom ( not that I want him 
>>to, I want NBA to be an American league and not to follow NHL's path ).

Sounds like you're starting another racism thread.  All the players who you dub
as "smart" are white.  Divac is extremely smart?  HA!!!  Real smart when he
tries to dribble it, like past the 10-second line.   oooh, what intelligence.
You've been listening to too many announcers who beat that stereotype in your
head.  "Bird can't run or jump, so by default, he must be smart".  I don't 
think of Bird as super smart.  I think Jordan is far more "smarter" than Bird 
(whatever "smart" means), but despite the fact that Bird couldn't run or jump
well, he had TALENT.  So according to your correlation, "athletic" players
are "smart", while "non-athletic" players are.  Yeah, sure there are some
athletic players who have no basketball thought; they get cut, or stay on the
bench.  But, there are many more non-athletic players who have no basketball
thought.  The league is comprised of those who have basketball talent.  It
just so happens that many of those players happen to be athletic.  Sounds 
like you don't like the way the league chooses its players or something.
Please let's not start this sh*t again.  

Robinson at 7'1" can do a lot of things that Schrempf can't do.


-- 
Brian T Odom
From: dwest@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dan West)
Subject: Re: Hornets sign Mourning!!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:00:44 GMT

(Richard Sikorski) writes:
>(Stephen P. Twombly) writes:
>>Finally, the Charlotte Hornets have sign ALonzo Mourning!!!!
>
>
>...while the Miami Heat have _not_ yet signed veteran Grant Long.
>
>I'm curious... Are there still any other's out there unsigned?
>

Jim Jackson.
Last I heard he turned down 2.75 a year. I just saw him on Wednesday
walking into Larkins Hall with a b-ball in his hand. I think he is
looking for 3.5 a year.





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From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: O'Bannon du Jour & New kid on the block...
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:10:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov10.001033.19788
Distribution: usa
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Nov9.165703.20790@ncar.ucar.edu> grubin@virga.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin) writes:
>
>Now I think you know, Matthew, that I find much humour in the postings
>from you and Trent (miss that Scott Turner!), and of course gArY, especially
>when he attempts to be funny.

That's strange...

I always find gARy to be most humorous when he attempts to be serious...

- Trent Lange

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From: reiniger@ug.cs.dal.ca (Darren Reiniger)
Subject: NBA logos - The final chapter
Keywords: Pacific division done 
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:26:21 GMT

 I've just posted the last NBA logos gif to alt.binaries.pictures (Pacific
 division).  Overall, I think the logos came out pretty well considering
 the original size (and quality) of the pictures I used for the scans, although
 obviously some came out better than others (sorry Phoenix).

 And just to slow the requests for these pictures via e-mail, I'd like to
 repeat that all the logos have been uploaded to wuarchive, in the
 /graphics/gif/Incoming directory.  This directory is unreadable, but you
 can still retrieve the files, by GETting:
 nba_atl.gif, nba_cen.gif, nba_mid.gif
 
 I tried to place nba_pac.gif on there this morning, but it appears the
 disk is full, so I'll try again later this morning.  Please be patient.

For what it's worth,
  Darren

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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BOXSCORE chi01cle01.06nov92
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:45:23 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <BxGKEo.16s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>williams,corey     1   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
>
>	What are the rules on getting into a boxscore?
>	Jazzy J

 1 minute is the smallest resolution they can officially use.  in this case,
 the teammate with the largest number of minutes was probably reduced by 1,
 or, if they have a better resolution from the official scorers, and one
player was at (say) 28.5 min, then they could truncate him to 28 minutes
instead of rounding up to 29.  they may use different methods in different
situation, perhaps.  but i do know that 3.7 seconds for the entire game
will be rounded up to 60 seconds=1min, just to avoid DIVIDE-BY-ZERO problems.

:-)

- nate
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Date: Thu,  5 Nov 92 11:57:51 MST
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Subject: Re: Lakers
Distribution: usa
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah
From: jhak@sofya.math.byu.edu (Justin Hakanson)

>>Duane Cooper, Anthony Peeler, Tony Smith, Roy Sparrow, Sedale Threat
>							^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	This man is a solid player.  In fact, last season, in his 1st year
>	at the helm of the Lakers, he basically was their MVP.  He led the
>	team in shooting % and assists, and was the man that kept LA into
>	the playoff race.

Sedale did have an excellent year, but I don't think he'll do as good
this year.  He's still a solid player, but his stats won't be as good
as last year.  Anyway, that's just my opinion...
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Rumeal to Nets
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:53:02 GMT
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath

freshlt@pell1l2.alleg.edu (Timothy Freshly) writes:
>[...] the Phoenix trade which brought us Nance and Sanders  
>(although we did give up some decent talent --> Corbin, West, et. all).   

"et al" is a pretty off-handed way to talk about Kevin Johnson.


--Gidi
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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: Re: Loy Vaught
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:21:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.211149.17374@athena.mit.edu> mittman1@athena.mit.edu (Christopher T Chiu) writes:

>Rumors are rife that Loy Vaught will be traded to the
>Boston Celtics for Jon Barry and some other player.
>This was published in the Boston Globe a few days 
>ago.  My question is, how healthy is Vaught, and
>how good is he as a player?

     Loy Vaught missed the first two games, I believe he has a sprained
ankle.  I don't know how long he'll be out.
     Loy Vaught right now could start for several NBA teams at power forward.
As he continues to gain experience, he could conceivably become an All-star
(he probably won't, but he'll still be a good NBA player for years).
His main strength is probably rebounding, probably defense next, he has
decent quickness and gets a decent number of blocked shots.  He is okay
offensively, can hit out to 15-18 feet if left open, but is not an
offensive force.
     He is much better than Ed Pinckney offensively.  Pinckney probably
has an edge at defense but Vaught I think will improve with experience.
He seems to be a hard worker who hustles all the time.
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Suns Report: Phoenix beat Clippers in season opener
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world,local
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:02:05 GMT

f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>QUESTIONS I WANT ANSWERS TO:

>LA's Jarrin [sp] Jackson (6-6 rookie, Georgetown): Is he any good?

	Actually, Jaren Jackson is not a rookie, he had played before with
	the New Jersey Nets, and perhaps with some other teams.  He's
	actually more along the lines of 6'4".  He's a decent outside shooter
	and good defender (what do U expect from someone out of G-town),
	but he's really no more than an NBA journeyman at best.  I believe
	he made the Clippers out of the CBA.

	Jazzy J
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From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Warriors final roster
Keywords: Warriors
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:05:19 GMT

The Golden State Warriors set their opening day roster today by releasing
two year veteran Tom Tolbert.  Tolbert was in the middle of a four year
guaranteed contract, and the Warriors will eat the rest of his salary.

Nelson said that this was a very difficult decision.  He said Tolbert
had been playing better than ever before and that he did not play himself
off the team.  Rather, the talent level of the club had improved and there
was no further room for Tolbert.

The final roster is as follows:

Starters -
			position	exp.	height	weight
Tim Hardaway		point guard	3	6-0	195
Latrell Sprewell	off guard	R	6-5	190
Chris Mullin		small forward	7	6-7	215 
Billy Owens		power forward	1	6-9	225 
Tyrone Hill		center		2	6-10	245

Bench -

Alton Lister 		center		11	7-0	245
Victor Alexander	center/pf	1	6-9	275
Chris Gatling 		center/pf	1	6-10	235
Byron Houston		power forward	R	6-5	250
Jud Buechler		swingman	2	6-6	220
Jeff Grayer		swingman	4	6-5	213
Keith Jennings		point guard	R	5-7	170

Injury list -

Sarunas Marciulionis	guard		3	6-5	215

					terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Is Chris Jackson regaining his shot?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:35:16 GMT

bih@mowgli.East.Sun.COM (Bennet Ih - Sun BOS Hardware - Sunergy) writes:

>I'm just curious since I haven't seen the Nuggets play, but does CJ's renaissance
>have anything to do with plans to play him more as a 2 guard? Is he actually
>playing more at SG now or was that just talk? And if he does play SG, who
>does he defend? He's only 6'1" right?

	If Jackson goes over to SG, that doesn't mean he has to guard the
	opposing SG.  Most likely if this is true, he can trade defensive
	assignments w/ the other guard, who will most likely be Mark Macon
	if Jackson's at SG.  Then there wouldn't be much of a problem.

	Jazzy J
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From: kuras@aiag.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Celtics Roster
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:33:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: engage.1992Nov5.203320.3442
Reply-To: kuras@aiag.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


It appears that the Celtics 1992-1993 Roster will be as follows:

C  Robert Parish	Joe Kleine		Joe Wolf
PF Ed Pinckney		Kevin McHale
SM Xavier McDaniel	Kevin Gamble		Rick Fox
SG Reggie Lewis 	Bart Koefed (sp)
PG Sherman Douglass	Dee Brown

Placed on injured reserved, with the "Helinic Flu" ;-) 
	Marcus Webb
	Ken Battle

Cut:	Darren Morningstar
	Jason Reece

Unsigned:  Jon Barry
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