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From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Passage to India and Empress of India
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:24:13 GMT
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <9208261903.AA06327@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
>Charleen Bunjiovianna (charleen@ads.com) claimed that at Passage
>to India,
>
>+--
>| odds are today's curry chicken was last night's tandoori
>+--
>
>What makes you say this?  I was talking to the owner last week
>and she categorically denied this, claiming that everything was
>made fresh every day.  She had heard this claim and it aggravated
>her.  Is there some sensory defect in the chicken curry that
>makes you say this?

Nope, it's the fact that the chicken had that distinctive lobster-red
coating plus burn marks from a tandoori oven, and clearly hadn't been
swimming in curry sauce long.  Tandoori in curry tastes weird, let
me tell you.  Not to mention how it sounds.

I don't care what the proprietess tells you:  I've had it served to
me.  Now, it hasn't been leftover tandoori every time I've gone there,
but it has been a couple of times.

Charleen
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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: louis@well.sf.ca.us (Louis Jaffe)
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:06:03 GMT

Well, as long as we're on the subject of burritos...

If any of those assembled will be pursuing the under $5 bargain in
San Francisco, here are three suggestions in the Mission district:

Casa Sanchez, 24th St off Potrero; La Cumbre and El Toro, approximately
across the street from each other on Valencia S of 16th. All three of
these give you a large-size burrito with all the trimmings for $3 to 
$3.50.  

Casa Sanchez is the best deal, but has the least restaurant amenities and
is on a tough part of 24th. El Toro is unusual in offering a black bean
option, and also has the largest assortment of plates including carnitas,
etc. There's often a line-- it seems that everybody in the world eats here--
but the turnover is so fast that you can find a table with no problem.

LJ
From: louis@well.sf.ca.us (Louis Jaffe)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: "cheap" mexican restaurants (was Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:45:46 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

As mentioned earlier, Casa Sanchez (24th & York, SF), includes chips
and salsa with takeout burritos at no added cost.  They give you the
foil-wrapped burrito in a paper bag which you then fill with chips
from a self-service bowl kept warm under a heatlamp.  Three kinds of
salsa are offered, with little takeout cups you fill up.  They don't
care how many of these you take.   LJ
From: tedh@cylink.COM (Ted Hadley)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Savera, and nine Indian places ranked
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:46:35 GMT
Organization: Cylink Corp.

In article <9208290518.AA28475@minos.nmt.edu> js@minos.nmt.edu (John Shipman) writes:
>2 stars: Taj Mahal (Stevens Creek near Lawrence), Sue's
>other food (but it's overpriced), Pasand (Sunnyvale),
>India Cookhouse (I didn't get the roach curry, though).
>
>Just for reference, I don't often give out 4 stars (so far,
>only Lion & Compass and Chez TJ); 3.5 stars means
>consistently impressive (Birk's, Scott's, Piccolo Mondo) but
>not really transcendentally overwhelming; 3 stars means
>pretty good; 2 stars means average to ho-hum.

_I_ would reduce Pasand to 1.5 stars. Where, John, would you put Shilpa (El C
and Flora Vista, Santa Clara)? I recommend a solid 3.0. How about Taj India
and Mumtaj? I would place them both a 2 - 2.5.
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From: drake@drake.almaden.ibm.com (Sam Drake)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Attention South San Jose!  Two Good Places
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:14:54 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: IBM Almaden Research Center

Two good places ... one old but reborn; one new.

REBORN:  Shin Sushi, Sunrise Plaza shopping center, Blossom Hill Road
and Cahalan.

The Sunrise Plaza was no doubt a fine shopping center at some time,
but that time was aeons ago.  In the past few years, it'd become a
hellish place.  Shoot, even the $2 movie moved out.  Nothing of value 
was left.

Except Shin, a really quite fine Japanese restaurant surrounded by
failed businesses (between the dead Amiga store, the $2 movie, and
the baseball card store).  Great sushi, friendly people, great
tonkatsu etc.

But then, one day, the bulldozers came, and tore the Sunrise Plaza
to the ground.  And there was much sadness, for Shin was no more.

But now, the construction crews are building the new Sunrise Plaza.
Mostly incomplete, there are a couple of businesses open.  Including
the reborn Shin.  

And there is much rejoicing.

Open again for 7 days.  We went last night; the food is exactly as it
always was; the new building much roomier and with modern decor.  Highly
recommended.

NEW:  Song Tien, Vietnamese, Cottle and Beswick (across from IBM, 
same shopping center as the Sizzler).  

This spot underwent a wierd transformation.  Long ago it was "Margot's",
where a nice blue-haired grandma-type served really good mexican food.
Then it, well, stayed "Margot's", but the grandma was gone, replaced
by a vietnamese family.  They served both mexican and vietnamese food;
one bad, one not much better.

Now they are gone, too, and it's "Song Tien"...all vietnamese.  And now
it's Really Excellent.  There's no other vietnamese restaurant at this
end of town, and it's high time this one came.  The menu is a phone
book, as you might expect; we have yet to have a bad dish.  Food is
cheap; we did take-out for 8 one night for $60, and ordered WAY WAY too
much food.  The menu is nearly as diverse as at Quoc Te downtown, and
the execution is just as good.  Yummy.  Try the beef or chicken in
aromatic lemon grass.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion of Indian
restaurants, already in progress.


Sam Drake / IBM Almaden Research Center 
Internet:  drake@almaden.ibm.com    BITNET:  DRAKE at ALMADEN
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Afterburn tricks - Why do people like spicy-hot food?
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:59:54 GMT

>>>A neat trick I do to cut the heat is to put sugar on my
>>>tongue and let it sit there for a minute.  It works much better than
>>>drinking water.
>>>
>>white bread does the same job too, I used to go to a place in
>>downtown phoenix that had _very_ hot food (peppers) they 
>>served with their BBQ food - they always had a stack of plain
>>white bread on the table, thought it was peculiar till I needed it
>
>drinking Coke was the best way to
>soothe your tongue after you had eaten something very hot  

Someone else mentioned milk too.

My sister spent some time in college in Mexico, and she told me that a lot
of the places she ate at had a squeeze bottle of honey on the counter, used
for soothing afterburn. 

Any other afterburn soothing ideas? I wonder if the differences between
various kinds of peppers would make one "cure" work better than another
depending on which peppers you ate. 

 - malcolm@wrs.com
From: joann@ariadne.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Czech restaurant near Pt. Reyes
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:35:56 GMT
Reply-To: joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu
Organization: SLAC (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center)

In article <3acnfvp.pmahler@netcom.com>, pmahler@netcom.com (Paul Mahler) writes:
|> Actually, i have always found valdamir's to be more pleasant and to have 
|> better food. Vladamir's has been consistently good for the last 25 years, or
|> so. Manka's comes and goes.  Vladamir's also has the best apple strudle I have
|> ever found anywhere, including demmel in vienna.   

I have been to Vladimir's recently, and the food was ok, but the strudel was
awful. To compare that cardboard-crusted slop to the desserts at Demel's in
Vienna is like comparing subway grafitti to the collection in the Louvre,
not even in the same galaxy.

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Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.
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From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:00:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleanplate.ebay.sun.com

I have to offer the Santa Cruz option here:  Taqueria Vallarta on
Soquel Ave., near the corner of Branciforte (same block as Shopper's
Corner).  They serve a quite large meat/rice/bean/salsa burrito for $3.40, or 
load it up with sour cream, cheese, and guacamole for an extra 50 cents.  

They also have "plates" for $5.50, which consist of a generous portion of
your choice of meat (carne asade, carnitas, chicken, tongue, etc).
along separate piles of beans, rice, cheese, some guacamole and sour cream, 
and a foil wrapper with 6-7 hot junior-sized tortillas).   I usually use the 
ingredients to make my own tacos.  Takes me a _while_ to finish a plate.
From: rklute@enchanter.tymnet.com (Robert Klute)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Savera, and nine Indian places ranked
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:06:44 GMT
Organization: BTNA

In article <1992Sep1.235645.22302@cirrus.com> venu@cirrus.com (Venu Nayar) writes:
>
>That is how lamb is eaten in India...and it is called mutton. So at least
>they were authentic ;-). 

Mutton is lamb after 1 year of age.  However, in India, I have been served goat 
as mutton.  Several times, in fact; and, goat is available here.  I have a friend
who always uses it in Indian recipes that call for mutton.

----------

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Then they came for the 2nd amendment, but I said nothing, I wasn't a gun owner.
Then they came for the 6th amendment, but I kept quiet, I knew I wasn't guilty.
Finally they came for the 1st amendment, and it was too late to say anything.
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: source for vanilla beans?
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:27:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <_xjn6g+.robin@netcom.com> robin@netcom.com (Robin Rosenberg) writes:
>[My apologies if this has been discussed recently; if it has, I've
>obviously missed it!] 
>
>Anyone know of a good source for vanilla beans? I'd like to buy some
>in bulk, so cost is a factor...

San Francisco Herb Co.

My catalogue is at home, packed away in a moving box, so I can't quote
prices or a phone number, but no doubt directory assistance can help.
They do have a minimum order, about $40, I think.

They also have great prices on potpourri supplies and spices.

Charleen

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This is, without question, the single most idiotic, bogus, selective, and
mendacious piece of pseudo-scholarship that I have read this week.  As I have
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From: cnc@Apple.COM (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:02:19 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

rlerdorf@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:

>You have missed the best Burrito place in the Bay Area!  It is in
>Mountain View at N. Rengstorff and Old Middlefield Rd.  On the South
>East corner of that intersection.  Called La Costenia or something like 
>that.  Strange little place in the back of a Mexican store and it is
>take-out only, but their super burritos are the best and biggest burritos
>anywhere and they can easily feed 4.  They have smaller ones too.

While I would say the best place was three doors down at Taqueria La Bamba,
You are right La Costenia is also very good. I would recomend the Chiken Mole'
Burito at La Costenia. Very good and a little different from the usual.
At Taqueria La Bamba I would recomend the Carnitas and Al Pastur (both Pork).
From: cole@unix.SRI.COM (Susan Cole)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:47:48 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <38159@unix.SRI.COM> I write:

>	Senor Taco on El Camino in South Palo Alto north of Arastradero
>	  This place will fool you.  It looks like a burger stand and I think
>	  it's still painted pink.  For years I assumed it had cheap Taco Bell 
>	  style food, but the burritos, at least, are very good.
>	  But if you want black beans instead of refried you have to ask
>	  (and it's 25 cents extra for some reason).

Just to forestall the inevitable corrections:  I drove by the place
this morning.  It isn't pink anymore; it's a nondescript dark greenish
gray (well, I guess I just descripted it :-) ).  And while is is north
(meaning towards S.F.) of Arastradero, it's *quite a bit* north, maybe
half a mile or so.

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Three great meals under $5
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:17:27 GMT

In article <9208260300.AA01469@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
>
>#2: Passage to India, lunch buffet, $4.99.  On El Camino
>just (logical) north of Castro, Mountain View.
>
>This place has been reviewed by several folks recently.  I
>ate there just last week and it was still great.  The
>selection is broad, all the dishes are a cut above average
>for Indian places around here, and you can go back for more.

Not to start the Indian buffet wars again...  I've eaten at quite a few
Bay Area Indian restaurants (having this Indian food addiction the size
of an elephant), and Passage to India's buffet is okay, but just.  It
has three prime virtues for me:  low cost, speed and dessert.  I eat there
when I have about twenty minutes to spare for lunch.  Unfortunately,
the spicy dishes aren't, and odds are today's curry chicken was last
night's tandoori.  Unsettling.  They also don't use basmati rice; have
you noticed?

I like Jeanne's Empress of India because she makes everything fresh
that morning, has three different interestingly-spiced vegetable dishes
and occasionally comes up with wonderful fresh fruit, like plums the
size of baseballs.  It's $6.99, but you really do get what you pay for.

Charleen
--
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down the road one day and they had a flat.  The service rep wanted to replace 
the car, the hardware engineer thought they could work around it, and the 
software engineer said, "Maybe if we ignore it, it'll go away."
From: JMH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Three great meals under $5
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:03:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Never forget the Guadalahara(sp) Market, GREAT burritos for $4.00
One on San Antonio between 2nd and 3rd, and one on N10th at Taylor(or
is it Empire?), both in San Jose.     Jim Hodgers
Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.food.restaurants
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: West/Central African Restaurants
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:27:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.142027.19861@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> lake@po.CWRU.Edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.133038.4935@osf.org> ellis@osf.org (Ellis S. Cohen) writes:
>>I've eaten in plenty of Ethiopian and Morrocan restaurants,
>>but I've never found a West or Central African restaurant in
>>the US or Canada.  Does anyone know of any?
>

	Well, I know of a place that advertises itself as a West African 
restaurant in San Francisco.  It's a block or two south of Haight Street,
near the Haight-Ashbury district, but I can't remember it's name.  I've
been wanting to go there but the person I usually go to the city with is
a real food wimp  and she seems a bit afraid of it.  *sigh*  I seem to
remember it having a lot of veggie dishes, and being fairly inexpensive.

	Does anyone know the name of this restaurant?  More importantly,
does anyone know if it's any good?

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>

P.S. I cross-posted this to ba.food--  I hope no-one minds.
From: drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: We Be Sushi, Sunnyvale (review)
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:46:01 GMT
Reply-To: drp@dosbears.uucp
Organization: DosBears

In article <9208172345.AA20300@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
>
>There is a story behind the name of the chain....

Which I just happen to have on-line:

_______________________________________________________________
WE BE SUSHI didn't start out with that name....

	The original name was McSushi.  Our sign was up and
we were ready to go.  But before we could even open our
doors we received a very formal letter from the lawyers of, you
guessed it, McDonald's.  It seems McDonald's has cornered the
market on every McFood name possible from McBagle to
McTaco.  They explained that the use of the name McSushi
would dilute the image of McDonald's!  Instead of waging an
expensive (and probably futile) court battle we asked our future
customers to suggest an alternative fun name for our new
restaurant.  We posted sheets on the windows to write on and
after much deliberation chose We Be Sushi.  And the truth is,
we like it better!

	We thought that you might enjoy a few of the other names
people came up with so here they are:

So Sue Me Sushi  Sushi R. Fish  Son of Sushi
Desperately Seeking Sushi  Oujia Sushi
Sushiopolis  Ronald Fish  Sushiteria
If You Knew Sushi Like I Know Sushi  Sushi King
Where's the Sushi?  Sushi Q  Sushi Does It
So You Vant Some Sushi  Sushi or Not Sushi
Sushi on Down the Road  We Maki Sushi
Max Sushi  Moby Sushi  Squishy Sushi
Sushi Bell  Glow in the Dark Sushi  I Love Sushi
I Can Sushi  Revenge of the Sushi  Sushi Zoo
Such a Sushi  Sushi Said to Me...  Sushi Magic
Sassy Sushi  Son of Sushi  Ah Sushi
Kentucky Fried Sushi  Peggy Sue Got Sushi
Monkey Business Sushi  What's Your Sushi
The Sushi Connection  She Sold Sushi by the Seashore
Sushi and the Banshees  So Sushi Me
Sushi Ville  Que Pasa Sushi  Sushi City
Succulent Sushi  MIG Sushi  O'Sushi

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               the avoidance of unnecessary conversation.
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From: wallich@iti.org (Kenneth Wallich)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Another We Be Sushi Review
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:04:06 GMT
Distribution: ba

cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

>Don't forget Seto, which I put way above Motomachi but slightly
>below Ikenohana. (I love Motomachi for lunch; it's close and yummy).

Oh yeah, I fogot :-), and I'd also agree.  Seto's is better than
Motomachi (except their soft shell crab roll, which I absolutely
love), and Ikenohana is one of the best.  Having to deal with the
crowds from Apple is probably the biggest problem with Ikenohana, but
on the other hand, you can go in for dinner on Saturday in jeans and a
t-shirt, and know that you'll be welcomed heartily anyway ;-).  I
should also have mentioned Yuki Sushi on Homestead/Winchester.  It's
cheap, and fills up quickly for lunch, but it's not bad if you get the
fresh stuff (the chef I've usually had was good about telling you what
was best). Not a big selection though. For those model train buffs,
it's also next store to one of the biggest model train stores I've
seen in the bay area.

I also neglected to mention that in Soquel (it's just south of Santa
Cruz for you valley-folk, probably a pretty extensive lunch run for
most), right off of Soquel/San Jose Road, 1/2 block off of Soquel
Blvd. is a little sushi place that is attached to a Thai Resturant.  I
can't remember the name, but if you can find Soquelies, you're right
across the street, and considering the number of resturants in the
area, "you can't miss it".  I noticed this place when I moved to the
mountains 4 years ago, but I was very sceptical about their motto
"Best Thai, Best Sushi!".  It was recommended to my by a friend
though, so I tried it.  It was...interesting.  This isn't a place for
"purists".  There are two chefs.  One is jewish-american, and one is
african-american (was that socially correct?).  Neither speaks fluent
japanese, but neither do I.  Both of them make some pretty tasty
stuff.  They both really like doing specials, and challenging your
taste buds with unusual combinations.  Nothing as tame as a California
roll here (unless you insist).  If you're in the area and up for
something different, you might want to give it a try.  There is a
pretty loyal local clientelle, and every time we go, we meet some
other new, often nice folks.  Both chefs seem pretty good at
remembering personal details you were bitching to them about recently,
and both of them are quite unique personalities themselves.  They
switch off days often, so you can never be certain who you will get
any particular evening, which makes it that much more interesting.

--
Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com  
ken@wallich.com
From: rajeev@travancore.Eng.Sun.COM (Sri Rajeev - Mktg Mgr - Displays)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: brunch places list
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:20:34 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: travancore

Did anybody save the list of good brunch places that
was posted here a while ago? If so, could you please
mail it to me at rajeev@sun.com?

Thanks

--
Sri Rajeev, Marketing Manager, Display Products
MTV 15-46, Sun Microsystems, 2550 Garcia Ave, Mt. View, CA 94043
(415)-336-1101  rajeev@travancore.eng.sun.com
From: steve@europa.esd.sgi.com (Motorin' Flarey Henderson)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Passage to India and Empress of India
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:51:01 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Aug26.212413.21684@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:

>In article <9208261903.AA06327@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
>>Charleen Bunjiovianna (charleen@ads.com) claimed that at Passage
>>to India,
>>
>>+--
>>| odds are today's curry chicken was last night's tandoori
>>+--
>>
>>What makes you say this?  I was talking to the owner last week
>>and she categorically denied this, claiming that everything was
>>made fresh every day.  She had heard this claim and it aggravated
>>her.  Is there some sensory defect in the chicken curry that
>>makes you say this?

>Nope, it's the fact that the chicken had that distinctive lobster-red
>coating plus burn marks from a tandoori oven, and clearly hadn't been
>swimming in curry sauce long.  Tandoori in curry tastes weird, let
>me tell you.  Not to mention how it sounds.

I thought chicken tikka masala curry *IS* tandoori chicken in a curry sauce.
That's how it is served in every restaurant I've ordered it in.  That's how
it is made in a couple of cook books I have.  I don't find it that wierd! %^>


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