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Subject: Re: Another error?
From: wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:33:59 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1993Jan8.143810.2115@gmd.de>, kandzior@gmd.de (Alexander Kandzior) writes:
> In article 2667@vax1.mankato.msus.edu, wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
> 
>> Or, as I am surprised that no one has pointed out yet, maybe when Chewbacca was
>> repairing C3PO on Bespin he crossed a few wires, made a few errors, whatever,
>> that somehow turned 3PO's hardwired programming into the story teller he never
>> was.  Think about it... 3PO torn literally apart and then put together by a
>> Wookiee with no tools... makes sense to me.
> 
> Chewbacca did not repair 3PO, he just fixed him so that he could talk/see again.
> It was R2-D2 who did the real job, and I think that R2 would make no such
> mistakes as to 'connect the wrong wires'.

Maybe R2 purposely did change 3PO then, trying to make him better.  Think about
it, we all have friends that we would like to change in one way or another,
make them more open-minded, make it so when they tell a joke they didn't ALWAYS
screw up the punchline, etc...  Well, maybe the thing that annoyed R2 the most
about 3PO was that the few times 3PO DID tell stories that R2 was around they
were long winded and boring, so, while messing around with 3PO's internals, he
poked around and made a minor change.  R2 seems like a cocky enough droid to do
just that.
> 
> Because 3PO is a droid, his talking ability comes most likley from a
> build-in computer-programm. Connecting some wires wrong could erease 
> or damage this programm, but would most likley no re-programm it.
> 
My Mom's Acura (or whatever kinda car she has with one of them fancy computer
controlled everythings...) did some really neat stuff when the
mechanic/computer technichian crossed a couple of wires... the radio stations
appeared on the speedometer while the odometer appeared on the radio... No real
relation to the above, other then 'wierd things can happen when wires cross.'

> However, by the time of ROTJ 3PO has been around humans for some years,
> and perhaps his programm is some kind of A.I. which adopts to his
> environment (like that of the 'Terminator'  in T2). 
> By the time of ANH, 3PO was just a protocol droid, so he might not have had talked
> much with humans aside from the neccesary 'Yes sir', 'No Sir' etc.
> (Just translating isn't quite the same as having a conversation).
> Look how few conversation 3PO has when serving in Jabbas Place. 
> Because Luke, Han, and Leia treat 3PO as a friend rather than a simple
> Droid, his behaviour might have changed. Remember that ROTJ takes place
> 2 or more Years after ANH - that should be enough time for the A.I. to adopt 
> some new behaviours.
> 
after 100+ years of existence, I don't think that 2 or 3 years would change a
neural net processor in the type of way you are talking about.  in T2, it was
Arnolds first encounter with humans, and he adaptly rather quickly (for a
computer).  3PO has been around humans for 100+ years by ANH, and if he was
going to pick up human mannerisms he would have done it long before ROTJ. 
Besides, no where does it say (in my recollections) that 3PO has a neural net
processor, or is even an AI machine... It is entirely possible that he is, I
have just never seen it anywhere.  

    Jabba's place : yes, 3PO had very few conversations here, but most of his
previous owners weren't inter-galactic crime boss's either.  The majority of
people in the rebellion are decent people, and wouldn't treat even a droid the
way the "scum and villany" of Jabba's crew did.  

    Han and 3PO: I don't think I remember ever seeing Han treat 3PO like a
friend... like a personal whipping boy, 3PO as the class nerd and bungling
idiot, and Han as the class bully, yes I see that.  A forced travelling
companion, a nescassary and uselful but annoying adition to his group, sure. 
But as a friend, I just don't see it. 
-- 

          "I have a new strategy, Artoo. Let the Wookiee win." - C3PO

          "Let the flesh control the mind." -Lestat deLioncourt

          "In the Troopers, it's always bowb your buddy week." - Bill

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                            there not.

                  -wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu

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