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From: sally@anableps.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: more bitching from Spud....
Date: 1 Sep 1992 23:59:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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If you are sick of my bitching just hit "n" Now.



Here goes:

Sorry, but all this shit about Carly with Ickie bugs the hell out
of me, it fringin' pisses me off. Although Jack did help Ickula
escape from Bayview, I believe that Marcus had prior contact with
her, and that they were friends. Now, why, oh why, couldn't it
be Marcus to whom she seeks advice. He is a doctor/surgeon, and
they have a longer history than Carly-Friend-to-ALL. Richard Biggs
has commented on lack of effort on the part of DULL folks to give
him the slightest airtime. I think that it would have been much
better if Marcus were her doctor, not Carly. It would give Biggs
a storyline, and would bring their relationship (Ickula and Marcus')
full circle. But the only reason that it is Carly, is to show
how concerned, how symPATHETIC she is, and to bring her closer to
Lizard. Hurl-city-Arizona-or-should-I-say-Salem!!!!!!

Another note, I would hope that Ickula would seek advice from
her other old friend Jack. Again, it would take their relationship
full circle. But, it would add a note of realism, what with Jack
overcoming his illness.  Normally, when a person is ill, dying,
it makes sense to speak with someone who can relate to what one
is going through--Jack had cancer too.  Then there is the fact that
Jack overcame his illness, to live a productive life. Talking with
him would seem a logical step, since under those conditions you
would want to speak with someone who can help you through the
trying times, and who could give you some hope, someone other
than a person from the medical community, since again that person
would have things more in common with you than a physician.

Well, what I say is futile...but I just need to bitch....

Spud--Guava here I come....let's enter Fantasyland together--Peel

Jack will not get a storyline. Jack will not get a storyline.
Steve will not show up. Steve will not show up.
Nick will not return from Africa. Nick will not return from Africa.
Carly will not be found out as Steve's attempted murder.
Carly will not be found out as Steve's attempted murder.




-- 
And I'll see you//And you'll see me          ||    Sally  A.  Wilson
And I'll see you in the branches that blow   ||    Spud   Peel
In the breeze,//I'll see you in the trees    ||    sally@mica.berkeley.edu
Under the sycamore trees       (_Sycamore_Trees_  Lynch/Badalamenti)
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: Re: AMC:TAN:Happy birthday, you September ratsters!!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:39:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.004546.28916@Princeton.EDU> carol@ivy.Princeton.EDU (Carol Agans) writes:
>I agree that Hayley & Charlie Chopper Chips would make a good
>pair for comic relief.  Besides, I can't help but laugh everytime
>I see those choppers coming!
>-- 
>Carol Jean Agans                carol@ivy.Princeton.EDU

Carol Jean,

I tried to respond to your previous item about Dimitri, but got blown
out of the system (don't you just love computers?).  The show was
getting so bizarre that I stopped recording it and just read the posts,
but I have always thought Dimitri was kind of cute.  I was glad they
got rid of the beard, but he has always appealed to me.  BTW, I think
Brooke should have gotten into the fight, too.

Linda Mac (llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu)
>***********************************************************
>My husband needs a job:   graphic artist, desktop publisher
>***********************************************************


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From: russell@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (David Russell)
Subject: Re: GH: Ravings of a frustrated updater
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:33:02 GMT

From article <92238.172005U14780@uicvm.uic.edu>, by John R. Andrews <U14780@uicvm.uic.edu>:
> Let me apologize first. I am going to rant a bit so go to the next posting
> now if you like. I won't mind.
> 
> The storylines in GH are getting worse than ever. This teen-trio is as stupid
> as you can get. Three teens paying $25,000 to a killer. Come on. The whole
> plot basis is idiotic, and why draw it out so long. The same with Ned/Jenny/
> blah/blah. How about some decent dialog. And why didn't Bill shoot Fr. Martin
> immediately when he grabbed Holly. Bill had a weapon pointed right at him.
> Ever see Dirty Harry where they guy is holding the girl? Clint Eastwood
> didn't flinch at blasting him. Ya, ya, I know this is network TV, but why
> not get some real action and not just playtime plots. I have to say I find
> Mac and Felicia the most watchable now. Such a deal. And, oh, please, don't
> let them turn Jagger into a "nice" guy. Let him save some crime boss's life
> and get drawn into "the life." Just think of him with nice clothes and
> money, but a bit sinister. Could work.
> 
> john

I agree totally.... Maybe this is the reason for the minimal traffic
about GH in RATS. The problem is I just keep watching hoping it will
improve, for quite a while now. (BTW, my FF button is getting a good
workout.)
--
David M. Russell, Mechanical Eng. Dept.
Clarkson University, Potsdam, NY 13676
(315) 268-9806 
russell@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
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From: sager@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mike.r.sager)
Subject: Re: SB - Thoughts
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:12:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.132941.20521@sadtler.com>, rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris) writes:
> dias@milton.u.washington.edu (Vivian Dias) writes:
> >
> >                            Question:  What happens to the Mason
> >  character if Julia leaves?
> 
> I think Gordan Thomas (Is that his name?) is a great actor and could
> pull off any scenario they throw at him.  The other Masons were good,
> but this Mason is the most believable *as the son of CC.*  (IMHO)

Close.  It's Gordon Thomson.  I agree with you in that Thomson does a
great job; I thought Terry Lester also did a good job.  But I'd still
much prefer to see Lane Davies in the role of Mason.

> 
> I think that without Julia (and mind you I think that is as big a loss
> as Cruz) that Mason could still be an interesting character.  He would
> be D.A. with a romantic interest in a new attorny in town.  Let's hope
> he can keep that alchoholism under control.  With out Julia, he would
> be sure to cook up some real good schemes!

It'll be interesting to see how they handle Nancy Grahn's departure.  She
is so good in the role that I can't see recasting the role working out.  I
don't think a new Julia would be accepted by the viewing audience.  So.
assuming the role isn't recast, how are they going to explain Julia's
absence without writing Mason out of the show.  The two seem as close as
ever so having them split up again wouldn't seem too realistic.  Julia
doesn't appear to be in any danger of losing her D.A. job.  My guess is
that Julia will learn that Augusta is either sick or in trouble and will
go to Augusta's aid.

> 
> >
> >  Let's see what else is annoying me, no Rosa or Dreyfuss, CC & Sophia
> >  AGAIN!?!?, I want to see more Gina and Lionel        ...
> 
> I kinda wanted to see more of Gina and CC!!  (I wouldn't mind not
> seeing Sophia anymore).

I kinda enjoyed CC and Gina together also.  They've always been good
sparring partners.  Their pairing makes for some good scenes.  As for
Sophia, I'm all for her departure.

On an unrelated note, I'd like to say I really enjoy this new style
of previews.  I hope they keep it up.  And as long as they're giving
us these personal touches at the end of each show, I think it'd be
nice if they'd use this slot to do something special when A Martinez
makes his last appearance.  One idea would be for A Martinez to come
out of character and say his goodbyes.  Another would be for the whole
cast to come out of character and give him some sort of goodbye salute.
What do you all think about this?

When Martinez does make his departure, SB will be left with only two
original actors, Nicholas Coster and Margarita Cordova (Rosa).

> 
> -Rick.
> -- 

Mike
From: dian@arpeggio.gg.caltech.edu (Dian  De Sha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: the Med Van???
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:18:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: egg.dian.715022329
Distribution: all
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

In <17lld4INN70p@agate.berkeley.edu> sally@anableps.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson) writes:

>Excuse me but am I missing something?  I thought the whole purpose
>of the Med Van was to go into the low income, and ghetto areas of
>town to provide help to those who come not make it out to the
>hospital, as well as providing an alternative to the drug culture
>prevelant in those areas. Now twice we have seen the Med Van and
>each time it has been at the Mall....I mean I doubt very seriously
>that the Mall is in any of these areas. The van is not going out
>to the people in need...they still have to come to it....I mean
>what is the use for a van at a Mall, which caters to people who
>are not financial strapped--if they can go to the type of mall
>the Salem Mall is they more than likely have a job, and are able
>to provide for their own health care.  This is yet another 
>rediculous and unbelievable plot device to get Carly with Lizard.
>Why do they have to advertise? I mean if it roamed the streets
>that would be advertisement. Uuuugghh...

No, you hit the nail right on the head!  That is what I was wondering
about yesterday:  In two (three?) days, Carly has treated Lawrence,
and Nicky, and abandoned the van to check out Bo.  Give me a break!
Why was she called for Bo?  Surely he would have been checked out at
the hospital, been told he was fine, and could have had an interesting
"guess what happened to me today" offering for dinner-time conversation.

I would think that if the Van is going to park each day and wait for
people to come by they would park closer to the Cheating Heart.  Of
course, now that Taylor has discovered the fabulous food at Johnny
Angel's, and now that Austin doesn't want her or Bo anywhere near
there, you will probably never see the Cheating Heart again, just
Johnny Angel's.  Let's see; they have already been discovered by
Bo and Taylor, Carrie and Roman and Jesse, Vivian(!) and Lizzard and
Nicky and Sean-Douglas; next it will be Vic and Sean and Caroline...
and Julie will go out of business!  Enough already.  (Besides, there 
seems to be only one table and three stools there, so what if everyone
wants to eat at the same time?)
____
Dian
From: mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Portland, ME
Date: 27 Aug 1992 18:01:33 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
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Keywords: I'M BAAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!!!!

lorico@boomboom.Eng.Sun.COM (Lori Cotton) writes:

Good - just checked the subject line and it DOES say TAN :^)

>Well, let's see I just came off of vacation.  Didn't go anywhere except the
>beach and park.  Mia started kindergarten.  She loves it.  Already has a
>boyfriend!

I've seen her picture - you mean it's taken her THIS long to get a
boyfriend :^) :^) - that kid is tooo cute :^)

>This may be too soon, but I wanted to give everyone advance notice that me
>and a friend will be driving cross country next summer (around late May, early
>June) and would love to stop in and visit a few of you.  Let me know if
>you'd be interested.

HEY -- let us know when - I think between Barb and Nancy and I we
could find you some floor space in East Central Illinois.

(there I go - speaking for them again :^) )

--
But HE loved *pure* and *chaste* from *afar*....
Well, that part was never big with me, either.
   -- Al, QL "Catch a Falling Star"

    Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
Catx2 Owned, Square Dancer, Leaper, Ballroom Dancer in training
From: johnson@ut-emx.uucp (Karen J. Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC -TAN - Soap Opera Magazine and Star Update/Other Info
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:52:51 GMT
Organization: U. Texas Center for Space Research

In article <1992Aug27.035530.2235@cbfsb.cb.att.com> colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
>Name:  Tommy J. Michaels
>Character:  Timmy Hunter
>Secret Ambition:  To be an astronaut
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I wonder if Kate Collins influenced him on this ambition!!!
I'd bet on it.

>Well, until next time.................................hope you
>all enjoy these little tidbits - maybe you can let me know,
>because if you don't care about this kind of stuff, I'll stop
>posting it.

I enjoyed them very much, Karen.  Thanks!

Karen Morgan

-- 
        karen@louise.ae.utexas.edu   -or-   johnson@emx.utexas.edu
 "It's no wonder politicians don't listen to their conscience.  They don't
      want to take advice from a total stranger." --Alfred E. Neuman
From: SECBU@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Portland, ME
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:51:49 GMT
 <l9krs5INNqsh@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> <1992Aug25.205844.24413@athena.mit.edu>
 <1992Aug26.122242.156@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Aug26.122242.156@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
kristyp@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kristy Patterson) says:
>
>In article <1992Aug25.205844.24413@athena.mit.edu> zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu       n
>(Caroly
>Zaccaria) writes:
>
>>Since AMC is so boring, is there anyone out there that would like
>>to discuss something interesting *in their own lives*? :-))))))))
>
>I would if anything interesting ever happened in my life! :-)
>
>Seriously, I'm going to Maine this weekend; anyone know of anything
>interesting to do in Portland?
>
>>CAZ
>
>-Kristy
>
>--
> +==========================+================================================+
> |Kristy Patterson          | Nothing really rocks, and nothing really rolls,|
> |kristyp@mac.dartmouth.edu | & nothing's ever worth the cost.      -Meatloaf|
> +==========================+=================================Bat Out of Hell+
************************************************************************

All I know is you better stay away from Castle Rock.  I hear tell of
some REALLY strange goings on there:)

Have a Lobster for ME!!

Sharon
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: 22302LMK@MSU
Subject: SB: Elena wasn't psychic;was SB
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 1 Sep 1992 07:41:24 EDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Christopher Raczka)
Subject: Re: SB
Reply-To: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Christopher Raczka)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:12:54 GMT

In article <BtMAME.LtM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> brookie@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Slinky)
>
> 	I have a favorite villianess..but I can't seem to remember her name.
> Does anyone here remember the storyline with the psychic and Cruz & Eden?

Are you refering to Alena (sp)??
The woman that worked for Cruz at the agency, and plotted Eden's
death (didn't happen) and thats when Eden was held captive by Cain ??

If that is the lady you are thinking of, yes, she was a sick puppy!!


chris
Hold it we are confusing characters. Elena was C.C. illegitimate daughter. She
did plot to kill eden. And Cain did rescue Eden after Elena did away with her
in the mountains.

However, there was a psychic whose name I cannot remember who was trying to hel
p Cruz located Adriana after Ethan had kidnapped her from the hospital. The
psychic fell in love with Cruz and when Eden finally returned to the show, the
psychic refused to just disappear, but she never tried to kill eden, I don't
think
Lisa
--
    " Govern a great nation as you would cook a small fish
      Do not overdo it. "

     LAO-TZU

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From: baker@rtsg.mot.com (Pam Baker)
Subject: Re: GL:  A-M's Private Detective
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:06:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.160931.15217@sequent.com> schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis) writes:
>I haven't been able to watch GL for the past couple of weeks and am
>totally dependent on the updates (keep them coming).   But I got to
>thinking about A-M's private detective, with what looked to be a bomb.
>It seems that he thinks that Eleni's car (we know this from the dry
>cleaning) is Musette's (guess he can't read English, this detective).
>
>What if the detective rigs his bomb to go off when the car starts, or

No, that's what it appeared to be when the 'hitman' gave AM a description
of musette's car.  The hitman actually placed the bomb on the car
next to Eleni's, which was also brown.  

>something.  Then Eleni is seriously hurt but not killed.  Frank will
>wonder why anyone would want to kill Eleni and start investigating.
>Somehow Stavros will give Frank Musette's note, which I believe
>explains what happened in Paris.  Then Eleni will leave A-M for Frank.

I think that since Musette is unconscious and will be for a while,
Stavros will open the note and read it.  Then Frank will find out
that AM tried to have her killed and ended up injuring AC and almost
Eleni in the process.  Shouldn't the police trace the 911 call for
leads??  They're supposed to have all the calls recorded.  It's
obvious that AM didn't disguise his voice.  


I hope Eleni leaves AM for Frank,too.
>It obvious in the shows of late, she is starting to realize she still
>has feelings for him...and she and A-M seem to be fighting, well,
>there's tension, anyway.  Something drastic like trying to kill her
>(by mistake) will be the kiss of death for their marriage.
>
>What does everyone else think?  I'm hoping I'm at least half way right
>and this story will wrap up soon.  I've also started to think if it
>ends something like this, we'll all forgive Eleni for being so naive
>and will welcome her relationship with Frank.  
>
>How does everyone feel about Blake and Ross?  I really want it to work
>out.  I was surprised, but I really like Blake now -- and I want Ross
>to have a storyline.
>
>schalene

I've been a huge Ross fan for years!!  It's about time that he has
a big storyline.  I like him with Blake, and hated him with Holly.  

Pam  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: nrudins@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Nancy Rudins Cray Operations)
Subject: Re: ATWT - H2D2
Originator: nrudins@pluto.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:59:35 GMT

In article <mcmahon.6@nd.edu> mcmahon@nd.edu (Sheila M. McMahon) writes:
>In article <183369@pyramid.pyramid.com> llk@pyrxbooter.eng.pyramid.com (Lynn Lassalle-Klein) writes:
>
>I've been lurking for several months now and decided it was about time to
>post. I've been watching ATWT for about 7 or 8 years now. I'm going to try
>to respond to a post. Hope it works
>
Well, since once lurker came out, I'll have to do likewise.  Here goes.
(deep inhale follows)
>
>The only problem is that I can't stand H2D2 and really don't want him
>to be innocent after all this. So maybe he's a double agent (along with
>CandyCane) and Hal and the Crime Commission think he's on their side
>but he really is behind all the murders. Of course this would probably
>add another year or two onto this already prolonged storyline.  All I know
>is that I want him to be guilty!! He's already filled one prerequisite of
>being a bad guy. He's slept with alot of women!! (just like James Stenbeck
>and Tonio Reyes. Although he doesn't compare to those two because he can't
>act his way out of a paper bag). What's really getting annoying about this
>storyline is that they are taking so long to reveal things. Get on with it
>already!!! Well thanks for letting me vent my frustrations. 
>Back to lurking........
>
>                                    Sheila M.


I'm with you on that.  I suspected H2D2 since Carolyn was murdered.  I even
suspected him before she was murdered.  He always struck me as a real
sleaze.  I always figured he was responsible for her "accident."  You are
right, though, that they're dragging it out too long.  That's soapland.  The
kids grow up before the police solve crimes.

Back to lurking for me, for a while.  It's so hard to post when I catch
nursie leaving the pill tray unattended.


Nancy
-- 
Nancy Rudins    nrudins@ncsa.uiuc.edu

"WhenIGetToTheBottomIGoBackToTheTopOfTheSlideAndIStopAndITurnAndIGoForARide
ThenIGetToTheBottomAndISeeYouAgaaaaaaaaaain!!!"    
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From: starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders)
Subject: AMC:TAN: Dear Mary Elizabeth...
Organization: EnviraForm
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:20:38 GMT
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On 31 Aug 92 17:33:05 GMT, mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison),
in Message-ID: <17tl4hINNogg@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> writes:

>Oh - I will list the September birthdays first this time around.
>...
>9/18 starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance 'Godzilla' Sanders) (AMC)
>
>LIKE - totally cool - Lance's birthday is the same day as my brother Mike's 
>birthday.  And you know something - I've never seen them together - 
>hmmmmmmmm :} 

   Sis, there's something I've meaning to talk to you about for a long 
time....something mom neglected to tell you...     :)

   BTY, I finally saw Part I of the Nike "Godzilla vs Barkley" commercial 
while watching the US Open last night (essentially Jimbo's 40th b-day 
celebration). OTF! They showed GDZ in all his glory, defeating past enemies 
accompanied by a dramatic voiceover ("He defeated Mothra!...he defeated 
Mecha-Godzilla!...he defeated Rodan!...and now the greatest challenge of 
all...Charles Barkley!"). A giant Barkley turns the corner, bouncing a 
basketball (THUMP! THUMP!). Zilla does a classic double-take, and as he 
turns to face Charles, whips out a giant pair of "Kareem Abdul Jabbar" 
goggles and flips them on!  Buh-ha-ha-ha-ha! 

   Nike is really getting creative. Have you seen the one with the (for 
real) hundred-year-old guys playing softball? One turns to the camera at 
the end declaring, "Must be the shoes."  :)  Or the one with the kid 
getting out of church on Sun., then dashing over to the gym, with a 
voiceover asking: "Now that you've found the love, where you gonna get the 
shoes?"  Clever. ;) 

   They should try one with a kid racing by and snatching a woman's purse. 
[unknown to him, she's "Lace" from the American Gladiators :)] She takes 
off in pursuit, catches him, throws him up against a wall, and retrieves 
her purse as the police take over. The camera closes in on the Nike logo on 
her shoes as she casually walks off. Cut to the kid, handcuffed in the back 
of the squad car, shaking his head in disbelief: "Must be the shoes."

---------
Lance "I'm here to mow the lawn" Sanders
starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM / GE Mail: L.Sanders6 / Vox: (312) 667-5958