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From: dgebhard@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Gebhard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: THX-1138 references (was: R2D2 in Raiders)
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:51:32 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>Ah ha!
>Yet another chance to get an age-old question answered by Net-gurus!

>I had heard that Lucas had slipped THX-1138 into "all his movies."  It's on the
>license plate in AMERICAN GRAFITTI.  In the SW novel, it's the "call number" of 
>the stormtrooper Luke knocks off when the Falcon gets snagged by the Death
>Star.  But it's not what's heard on film. (I think its actually "TK-421, why
>aren't you at your post?")  I had heard that THX makes appearances in ESB (in
>the microbinoculars the rebel uses to get a closer look at the AT-ATs), and in
>Raiders (the number stenciled on the crate the Ark is stored in), but I know
>that the latter isn't the case.

>So -- Where else, if anywhere, does "THX-1138" appear in LucasFilms?

    If I remember correctly, THX-1138 was the number stenciled on the
airplane that Indy takes off in after retrieving the statuette in the
opening sequence of Raiders. And, of course, you must include the film
of the same name, which I believe starred Robert Duvall.
				dgebhard@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
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From: yyrkoon@morris.engin.umich.edu (Jeffrey Jon Kabbe )
Subject: Staw wars and Galactica
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 11:22:10 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: yyrkoon@morris.engin.umich.edu


For all those who have been posting on this subject, here's a bit of trivia 
that many of you may have noticed already:

Johnny Williams wrote the theme to Battle Star Galactica. Yes, the one and the
same who wrote the Star Wars music.

Jeff = yyrkoon
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:55:27 EST
From: <MJB109@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: dinos and endor

Two things:

     1. The planet (or moon) that the Ewoks live on is called Endor.
        In a scene between Darth Vader and the Emperor Darth says that
a small rebel force "has landed on Endor." This would seem to
        end the dispute about whether it is the moon's name or the planet's
        name.

2. The dino that the stormtrooper is riding is called a patrol dewback.
It was released as a toy very early. It had a hatch in its back
just like the tauntaun did.
From: DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Cute dinosaur scene cut from SW
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:16:52 GMT
 <1992Nov11.215708.14742@ll.mit.edu> <1992Nov12.173129.6855@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov12.173129.6855@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu
>
>I suppose Tatooine was considered a remote outpost, thus the Empire had not
>fully exploited the planet for what it was worth.  I thought that there was
>a mention of this in the movie or the book.  Something to the effect that
>Tatooine had not felt or was under the influence of the Empire.  Or perhaps,
>the Empire considered Tatooine a worthless "rock", constituting little or
>no threat to the Empire.  In either case, the Empire would probably only
>detach a minimal amount of troops, just to make it's presence felt.  I doubt
>they were there in the capacity to control law and order.  It's more likely
>that they were around to deter any form of uprising.
>

 I remember from somewhere ( I think it was the SW novelization ) that
 the planetary governor of Tatooine was protesting even the influx
 of the troops that were sent to find the stolen plans in ANH; i.e.
 that even this much of an Imperial presence was considered excessive.

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From: v115maec@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michael L. Kohan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: (not so) CHALLENGING QUESTIONS
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:03:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov7.222420.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca>, alumni106@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Max Sterling) writes...
>In article <crazy03083921004034420@obelisk.muc.sub.org>, crazy@obelisk.muc.sub.org (Joerg Sauer) writes:
> 
> 
>> 2. The air pressure on an asteroid can be regarded as nonexistent. A very 
>> big asteroid may be able to pick up some molecules and thus build up an 
>> ultra-thin atmosphere, but it would be negligible.
>> So why didn't they wear spacesuits in near vacuum? At least they wore
>> respirators.
> 
>Contrary to popular belief, people DON'T suddenly expand and explode 
>within seconds if they're thrust into a vaccuum. If you were an 
>astronaut and you were suddenly thrown out into space without a suit, it 
>would take about 3 MINUTES for you to die. It wouldn't happen from your 
>body expanding and exploding either, but instead it would be from lack 
>of oxygen. The only way you would get a MASSIVE expansion happening is 
>if your body was subject to at least 2 RADICALLY different atmospheric 
>pressures. This was proven in recent experiments that were conducted by 
>NASA. If this ever happens to you, make sure you exhale first. Mata ne.
> 
>                                                 -=]> Max <[=-
> 
P.S.A.: Anyone interested in this topic, a considerable amount of posts pertain-
ing to this vacuum deal are on rec.arts.sf.tech.  
-Mike
(BuffaloChip)
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From: richarje@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joe E Richardson Iii)
Subject: Re: Cute dinosaur scene cut from SW
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:42:50 GMT
From: 907fanjoy@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Mac, the Lightsaber (ZZZTT)
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:09:01 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <92311.022644DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>, <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> In article <4NOV199222031309@phobos.ucc.umass.edu>, hdw@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (H
> D WALDEN) says:
>>
>>In article <1992Nov5.001950.27220@udel.edu>, lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie
>>Lim)
>>writes...
>>>
>>>       Oh yes. Y'all have heard that Lucas tentatively signed Macaulay Culkin
>>>to play young Luke, haven't you?
>>>
>>>
>>        AAAARGH! SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!!!
>>
>>                                -"There will be no one to stop us this time!"
>>                                        (Or will there?)
> 
>  It IS so.
> 
>              ACK!

	Does the term "duh" mean anything to you?  Like as in, "Oh, duh!"
Think about what we're arguing about here.  The general feeling (and the
impression that Lucasfilm gave was that the First Trilogy would take place
20 years before ANH.  In ANH, Luke is between 17 and 19 years old.
	If you're a math major, you can plainly see that a better choice
to play young Luke would be a sperm cell.
	Besides, when all of that Darth Vader/Anakin stuff went down, Luke
was way too young to have a clue what was going on... and Macaulay Culkin
is definately too old to be clueless (well, maybe he IS clueless, but I'm
not thinking that Luke would be).

		--Dave "Y-Wings and Boba Fett are Cool" Fanjoy



Currently seeking:  FIGURES:  Zuckuss, IG-88
		    DIE CAST:  Y-Wing, Boba Fett, Slave 1
		    TALL FIGURES: Boba Fett, Rocket-Firing Boba Fett 
	       No need for packages, I'll take any decent condition.
		Will pay or trade from large inventory of used stuff.
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From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Subject: SW Halloween Costumes
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:20:16 GMT


   Okay, now that Halloween has come and gone, I was wondering how many
people dressed up as one of their favorite SW characters?  I myself
managed to get a Vader costume made, just in time for Halloween.  I got
the mask from a novelty shop (realistic, too!), and then just added the
robe, cape, gloves, etc, etc.  A 26" red glo-stick served as a lightsaber.
So, am I the only one, or did anyone else have a neat costume?

-- 

Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB
From: Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk (Simon N Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: new dark horse SW series!
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:06:30 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.

DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
|> Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk (Simon N Smith) says:
|> >
|> >Dark Horse are already producing a new SW series to be called "Tales of
|> >the Jedi".  The story is about some Jedi tackling a Hutt in the time before
|> >Vader and the Emporer decided to have a Jedi purge.  It wont be out for over
|> >a year though :-(  I know this is a fact because I know of the artist
|> >who is drawing the thing as I write!  His name is David Roach from the UK,
|> >and he's done previous work on 2000AD, and has also been heavily involved
|> >
|> 
|>  May the Force be praised, a different artist.
|>  BTW, who's writing it?

Tom Veitch (sp?), who if I remember correctly has been writing Dark Empire.
Judge for yourself whether that's good or bad.  I think he's done a fair
job on DE myself.

Sy

-- 
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From: watters@darwin.genetics.washington.edu (Mike Watters)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: THX-1138 references (was: R2D2 in Raiders)
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:34:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov10.193449.8344
Organization: University of Washington

In article <1992Nov9.211527.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>Ah ha!
>Yet another chance to get an age-old question answered by Net-gurus!
>
>I had heard that Lucas had slipped THX-1138 into "all his movies."  It's on the
>license plate in AMERICAN GRAFITTI.  In the SW novel, it's the "call number" of 
>the stormtrooper Luke knocks off when the Falcon gets snagged by the Death
>Star.  But it's not what's heard on film. (I think its actually "TK-421, why
>aren't you at your post?")  I had heard that THX makes appearances in ESB (in
>the microbinoculars the rebel uses to get a closer look at the AT-ATs), and in
>Raiders (the number stenciled on the crate the Ark is stored in), but I know
>that the latter isn't the case.
>
>So -- Where else, if anywhere, does "THX-1138" appear in LucasFilms?
>
>    __
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>/ / /\ \       * ======================================================== *    
>\_\/\ \ \        Tom Tullio * TTULLIO@WILLET.WESLEYAN.EDU * Alumni Office  
>     \_\/          ----------------------------------------------------
>


Actually... in the StarWars movie, the THX-1138 reference is spoken by Luke
as he, Han and Chewie go in to rescue Leia.  The line is (I believe):
"Prisoner transfer from Cell Block 1138".

mike

--
Mike
watters@genetics.washington.edu
Dept of Genetics, Univ of Washington  Seattle
(d) 206-543-1934   (e) 206-361-1156
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Looking for Lucas Cartoon....
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:24:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Nov10.092421.3409
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

I am posting this for someone else, so please do not reply to this
message, but rather send to the address listed in the following:


HELP!!!

At one point, Lucas made a short cartoon called "Twice Upon a Time."
It had such characters as The Video Gorilla, a little talking dog,
a heroine, and a superhero.

I desperately need the names of these characters, and what they did
in the movie.  I am trying to put together a list between my brother
and myself, and the names are on the tips of our tongues.  The suspense
is killing us!!

Thanks in advance...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PH9991_HALL
internet: james.f.hall@uwrf.edu

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From: ss@realsoon.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Archive News. X-wing demo
Date: 8 Nov 1992 23:14:28 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: realsoon.wpi.edu

The X-wing simulator slide show demo for PC, is now on the archive.
The file is called xwngslds.zip 
Just download it, unzip it, and exectute the .exe file. Looks cool...


-- 
 Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive at
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu       130.215.24.1
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Prequal Plot Scenarios
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:42:56 GMT

hdw@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (H D WALDEN) writes:


>	Try this one on for size: Yoda and the Emperor were once brothers a long
>time ago. They both became Jedis, however, the Emperor somehow wanted more pow-
>er, thus becoming an agent of evil. Somewhere along the line, Yoda fell into a
>big vat of toxic waste, turning him into some kind of frog-like creature. Feel-
>ing totally ashamed of his appearence( and knowing deep down he'd never get "the
>babes") he banished himself to the remote planet of Dagobah to train Jedi full-
>time. 

Humor...ahr, ahr.

I dunno, though.  I feel that if Yoda *had* fallen into a vat of toxic
waste, he'd probably have ended up with white skin, green hair, and a
permanent smile.

Scene: Yoda sitting in his darkened hut in the swamp, reading the paper.
Today's headline concerns Vader's ongoing purge of the Jedi Knights:
"Masked Freak Terrorizes Galaxy."

Yoda: Masked freak...terrorizes...[Looks up at the camera]  Wait'll a load
of *me* they get.

:)


                 --Steve "Easy being green it is not" Stelter
                   sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: stdeprie@eos.ncsu.edu (SHAWN TEMPLE DEPRIEST)
Subject: Re: SW Halloween Costumes
Originator: stdeprie@c00514-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: stdeprie@eos.ncsu.edu (SHAWN TEMPLE DEPRIEST)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:37:04 GMT


In article <1992Nov6.120207.7891@cs.mun.ca>, craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
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|> From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
|> Subject: Re: SW Halloween Costumes
|> Message-ID: <1992Nov6.120207.7891@cs.mun.ca>
|> Sender: usenet@cs.mun.ca (NNTP server account)
|> Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
|> References: <1992Nov5.172016.27702@cs.mun.ca> <1992Nov6.043319.13308@ncsu.edu>
|> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 07:02:07 EST
|> Lines: 15
|> 
|> stdeprie@eos.ncsu.edu (SHAWN TEMPLE DEPRIEST) writes:
|> >
|> >A friend of mine dressed up as a DEAD LUKE SKYWALKER.....top that one  :-)
|> 
|>    Was he a "luminous being", or just "this crude matter"?   :-)
|> 
|>    Seriously though, what did this costume look like?
|> 
|>    (Next year I'll go as Han Solo in carbonite.)  ;-)
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
|> craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB
|> 
|> 

Han Solo in carbomite?  Hmmm...sounds like a difficult costume to construct, 
though I saw an interesting Star Trek related one, a borg. The guy had it
down in every detail, even a servo controlled mechanical hand, now that was
a nifty effect, course the light beam over his right eyes was nothing to snear
at either.
	At any rate, he was not glowing...just kinda cruddy....he covered 
himself in that party string stuff.  Imagination was needed to really believe
it.....though his heart was in the right place
	Hmmmm, you could wrap yourself in tinfoil for carbomite....;-)
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: New Movie Trilogy?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 05:09:55 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

bmcraw01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

>	 As far as the time period in the trilogy, the next films will be
>	 before Star Wars.  Twenty years before, in fact.  They will deal
>	 with a young Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, and (probably) the
                ~~~~~

At the time of Star Wars, Ben is probably like 100 years old.  I'd hardly
call him young 20 years previous.  Also, Darth Vader is probably at least
55 or 60 in Starwars, so even he'll be 35 or 40 (middle-aged).

>	 fall of the Old Republic.  Any movies which deal with the time after
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Old Repulblic ends probably not more than a few years before the beginning
of Star Wars.  The Senate is not dissolved (ie, the Emperor isn't yet the
Emperor) until the beginning of the film.  Actually, I don't think that
the Clone Wars (whatever they may be) are connected with the fall.  No, I
take that back.  Actually, the Jedi were eliminated about this time, possibly,
and the Jedi were the so-called protectors of the old republic.  I guess the
Jedi were gonge for some time before Star Wars, since Luke hadn't heard about
them.  Of course, his uncle probably was careful not to let him know about
his father being a Jedi...

>	 Return of the Jedi would be at least 20 years into the future,
>	 therefore making it unlikely that any of original trilogy's cast would
>	 appear in them.  I have no idea of any possible plots for the last
>	 trilogy, if it's even made.  George Lucas himself said he may not live
>	 long enough to make them.

I've supposed that the final trilogy might involve Wedge, since he seems to
survive when most others don't.  Also, he was involved in all of the major
battles.  Maybe it will clear up all this Captain Antilles (if they are
even related--in the novelization, Captain Antilles isn't even mentioned
as being the previous owners of the droids, but rather someone else, so who
knows) business.

keith

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From: gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain)
Subject: Re: Cute dinosaur scene cut from SW
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:31:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.215708.14742@ll.mit.edu> shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.152033.6294@ra.msstate.edu> paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil) writes:
>>
>>I saw the dino scene in Star Wars, but the dino was in the background
>>where the stormtrooper picks up the metal ring and says "Look sir, droids!"
>>
>I suppose it could be that the empire used domesticated dinos for land
>transportation on Tatooine (like the rebel use of Tan-Tan on Hoth). I doubt
>that a wild dino would be left alive by nearby stormtrooper under the "there
>will be no one to stop us this time" policy.  However, the use of domesticated
>dinos would be most uncharacteristic of the empire. The empire is very
>un-adaptable to local conditions. They rely on technology even when conditions
>clearly degrade it's performance (like the use of 2-legged walker's on Endor).
>The empire appears to have a total blind-spot on the subject of using anything
>alive, even to the point of neglecting to consider the possibility that their
>adversary might do so (hence the Empire's surprise at the existance - let alone
>military effectiveness - of Ewoks). [A *VERY* notable exception to that rule
>is Darth Vader use of bounty hunters in TESB]

I suppose Tatooine was considered a remote outpost, thus the Empire had not
fully exploited the planet for what it was worth.  I thought that there was
a mention of this in the movie or the book.  Something to the effect that
Tatooine had not felt or was under the influence of the Empire.  Or perhaps,
the Empire considered Tatooine a worthless "rock", constituting little or
no threat to the Empire.  In either case, the Empire would probably only
detach a minimal amount of troops, just to make it's presence felt.  I doubt
they were there in the capacity to control law and order.  It's more likely
that they were around to deter any form of uprising.

Glenn..........


-- 
Glenn McLain, Vice President Data Information Systems Klub(DISK)
University of Texas at San Antonio
College of Business Student Microcomputer Lab
HB 3.01.04  (512)691-4586
From: ralf@cs.uq.oz.au (Ralf Muhlberger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: X-Wing simulator
Summary: When does the X-Wing simulator come out?
Keywords: x-wing simulator
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:19:09 GMT
Reply-To: ralf@cs.uq.oz.au


G'Day,
  Someone recently posted reasons for the new trilogy coming out next
year (don't I wish), and mentioned a X-Wing simulator that was being
writen by Lucas Games (or some such company). 

Does anyone have any further information on this, i.e. when we can
expect to see it, for what machines (Atari, Amiga and IBM, and what
else?), who is producing it, what it's going to be like, etc etc.
Oh, and can someone e-mail me a copy when it`s out ;-) (only kidding 
Mr Internet-Security-Man)

Thanks,
  Ralf

-----Ralf Muhlberger-----(ralf@cs.uq.oz.au)-----University of Queensland------
I wonder if other people can hear voices in their head. I certainly can. I can
hear one now. It's saying: "I wonder if other people can hear voices in ... "
From: redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Teleportation
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:03:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov6.230349.27239
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Nov5.034731.26388@wheaton.wheaton.edu> nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.180317.21106@cs.mun.ca> craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin) writes:
>>Nathanel J. Barlow <nb2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>>
>>  I guess teleportation (a la trek) must also exist, since Luke mentions
>>it to Threepio in the garage scene in ANH.
>>
>Probably not. a) Luke says "...not unless you can alter time, speed up the
>harvest, or teleport me off this rock." Most people would probably agree that
>Luke was being sarcastic. Threepio taking him seriously is meant to be funny.
>b) If such technology existed, it would greatly alter the SW universe...why
>would people use shuttles all the time? You'd think the technology would be
>important somewhere, but nothing like it is ever shown to us.
>
>Opinions? Negations? Support? All welcome...
>
	What if he knows about it from reading science fiction novels?
Just like we know about it from watching Star Trek.  Maybe Luke is
a big sf fan.
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|-Joe Stremick,               |"I want to learn the ways of the Force  |
|       a.k.a. Redrum         | and become a Jedi like my father. . ." |
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