From: Michael F. Kamprath <kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: X-Window???
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 21:02:58 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan, Aerospace Engineering
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In article <BvB3Iw.J3D@cs.dal.ca> Steve Franklin, franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca writes:
>In <1992Sep28.185300.12461@news.nd.edu> dwalton1@bach.helios.nd.edu (david walton) writes:
>
>>>Try MacX, published by Apple as far as I know. It only works as a client, 
>>>I think it is...you still need an actual X Station.
>
>>MacX (currently version 1.1.7) is an X-Window Server that will let X clients 
>>connect over a TCP/IP network (either directly over an Ethernet, or over 
>>a LocalTalk network that is connected to a DDP/IP gateway).  You don't need 
>
>No no no no no... I have to suggest Exodus as an alternative. MacX has
>given me and our department such headaches that I cannot begin to 
>describe them. yes, we are registered.

I use MacX (I have no choice, it is the only one siteliscensed here at U-Mich.)
and some complaints:

	1.  It seems as if MacX fragmets my heap alot.  I am running under 32-bit
		mode and I have two monitors (one an E-Machines T-19, the other Apple's 
		normal).  Other than the memory allocations not properly adding up in 
		"About This Macintosh," frequently the colors of my screen get screwed
		up for ~5 seconds. After running MacX, I almost always have to restart 
		due to memory problems sooner or later.
		
	2.	I use MacX cheifly to run dynamical CAD programs such as ADAMS and DADS
		from my (fairly nice) office Mac.  I have no problems running DADS from
		a DECstation in the rootless mode (i.e., using the MacX window manager),
		but I must run ADAMS with a root window and mwm (Motif window manager)
		managing the windows from the DECstation.  I have yet to determine if
		this is a fault of ADAMS or MacX.  I got a feeling it is MacX because
		once I tried removing my Apple Monitor, and I got ADAMS to run in the
		rootless mode, although it's window was 1 cm by 1 cm.  I think it has
		something to do with when ADAMS requestss the screen size, extra monitors
		confuse MacX.
		
	3.  I "wish" the rootless mode (very easy to work with in a Mac envorment)
		would be more "functional" win the X sense.  That is, like mwm, I wish
		the windows would have pull down menus to send the process signals.  
		Also, the icons for "iconifying" windows should get the standard icons
		from the X client and collect them in an icon manager.  
		
	4.	Finally, there is no way to print, or otherwise save, the image of a
		window in MacX. 

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| Michael F. Kamprath                   | The University of Michigan   |
|   kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu |      Aerospace Engineering   |
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