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From: anon-1259@twwells.com (Kate)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: RE: holidays...
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:14:06 GMT
Organization: Anonymous Posting Service at twwells.com

This is *definitely* a bad time of year...
Jeez, and I was wondering why I had been so down as of late after
a nice period of recovery.  But what you said, Ted, really triggered some
stuff about holidays coming up.  I think this time of year, (now until
around the new year) and the beginning of summer are the worst for 
many ritual abuse survivors, including me.  
Last year at this time I began a major descent which resulted finally
in a hospitalization in january.  There, I spent 3 months uncovering
horrible memories of cult abuse (i had only had about 3 memories prior
to that time).  Anyway, this really isn't going anywhere.  I don't know
what to do.
All I know is this is my last semester of college and probably the most
stressful I've ever had.  
I need to get through it!
Help!!!

Kate

                                      

                                                     



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From: anonasar@khijol.UUCP (Anonymous poster for alt-sexual-abuse-recovery)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: update to mail software at khijol...
Date: 8 Oct 92 05:10:15 GMT

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If you don't want to see technical details, hit 'n' now.  No spoilers, I'm
afraid...

This evening, I updated the mail software from a customized (older) SYSV
mailer to smail 3.1.28.  This means that eventually mail won't wait around
for the APS to process it - mail headers will be stripped the instant mail
comes in (there is currently a *maximum* wait time for APS mail processing
of 15 minutes).  This also means that eventually this software will evolve
into a *real* APS [:)] that will support services like anonymous mail
forwarding, etc. - something difficult to do before the mail software
upgrade.

If you send software to the APS and don't see it on asar in a reasonable
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installation or something and the mail is waiting in the incoming queue
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From: anon-1041@twwells.com (Little Bear)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Re: Thanks, thoughts & requests
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:32:10 GMT
Organization: Anonymous Posting Service at twwells.com

Welcome !

I'm glad to "see" you posting again.  I enjoy your anon-name-- 
I am a JRR Tolkien fan -- and especially enjoy the parts about
Tom and Goldberry.  

I am involved in support groups that people come and go in 
constantly -- I believe that recovery helps me and others to
have strong but flexible boundaries that have plenty of room
for people to come and go as they choose.



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From: mcmorris@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (brandywine)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: I've been gone awhile but....
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:09:27 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Hello all. I have been SO BUSY with school and such that I haven't
been too good about reading ASAR... for about the past week or so, and
I went on vacation. I appologise to those posters I missed and send
Ehugs to all who can take them.

*not a spoiler here*

I finally got the rest of my memories back... and yes, I know they are
all back for various reasons... not the least of which is that for the
first time in my life, I feel whole... I feel as tho I can face things
as a TOTAL person and not a handicapped person who cannot quite get it
straight.

The main thing is that I was abused and molested by a female
babysitter.  Actually, she molested my brother and I at the same time
(setting the scene for what he was to do to me later...)

I feel so much better and stronger since regaining the memories, like
I can face what is to come. And, I know it isn't over yet... I still
have to face my brother and my parents.... nothing will ever change
what happened or what it did to me... but now I can begin to forgive
myself and my family. The babysitter is no longer a part of my life
and hasn't been since I was about 6 years old... (yes, I was VERY
young when it happened._

Anyway, I feel great and I wanted to tell you all. It seems to be
uphill from here, instead of down... and I thank each of you for being
here for me....

I am not leaving ASAR any time soon, but I wanted you all to know
about this... thanks again... and ehugs again to all who want them...

-brandywine
From: anon-1218@twwells.com (Anika)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Re: Chamber or combo
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:12:54 GMT
Organization: Anonymous Posting Service at twwells.com
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I may be the "real" alto aforementioned (thanks Kristian!) but I also play
piano and violin...


I've played piano since I was three (lessons were my b-day present) and it
became a VERY powerful tool. When it was too big, off I'd go to a paino and
play my heart out. I love Rachmaninoff and Beethoven (very powerful) and I was
once called the Phantom of the Opera for my penchant for playing in our empty
high school auditorium in the dark - great reverberation!

Sounds like we've got something good here! :-)
(Was there any doubt?) ;-)

							Anika

							



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From: warton@ssd.intel.com (Peter Warton)
Subject: Re: will it be a chanb. or combo
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:01:22 GMT

In article <BvzwIp.MtD@twwells.com> anon-1296@twwells.com writes:
>i play the double bass...
>*acoustic*
>could i join ?
>*smile*
>
>JASMYNE
>
And where to put a French Horn??  This is getting complicated!

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From: Gavin.Flower@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower)
Subject: Re: welcome back Goldberry
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:32:16 GMT

In article <Bw4oDo.A74@unx.sas.com> sasnla@shadow.unx.sas.com (Nancy Agnew) writes:
[...]

>listen to what you are saying.]  In any case, one of the revelations
>I have had is that *I'm* not *always* the one who is in the wrong when
>someone has been offended!  Isn't that a bizarre notion?  That someone
>else might actually be flying off the handle as a result of their own
>problems and issues, and if they were a-ok, nobody would have felt
>hurt.  Pretty wild.

Nancy, you write a lot of good stuff, never read anything I can't seem
to accept from you...
[...]

>                      There is a bit of a paradox about this *do* vs
>*am* idea.  I've read that as far as *others* are concerned, who you
>are *is* what you do -- that is how you are perceived and how people
>know what you are like.  At first I thought that was the old "if you
>aren't doing something 'important', you aren't anybody worthwhile", but
>I think that isn't quite right.  I think, if someone sees you *do* 
>things like taking care of your needs, asking for help, writing when
>you need to, finding time to cheer someone else's efforts -- then
>they think you *are* courageous, and hardworking, and helpful.  It
>is hard to answer the question of "why am I a deserving human being"
>with "because all human beings are deserving" when sometimes concrete
>examples that show one's humanity (human-ness) can bring home the idea
>of who one is.  If that makes any sense to you....

I know with my children, especially when they were VERY young, it is
important to treat them as they *ARE* rather than just what they *DO*.
In fact you do take notice of what they do, but selectively - I take
more note of my six year olds interesting questions, than the fact he
wets the bed too often.  I think that it is still important with
adults - I make mistakes, but I appreciate people paying more attention
to the positive things I achieve.

[...]


Gavin
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From: anonasar@khijol.UUCP (Anonymous poster for alt.sexual.abuse.recovery)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: anonymous ASAR posts
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:26:01 GMT

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If there are those of you who have sent email to khijol!anonasar@saturn.upl.com
and haven't seen it, please resend it - it got lost in the bit bucket. :(

It's fixed now... :)
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From: anonasar@khijol.UUCP (Anonymous poster for alt-sexual-abuse-recovery)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Thought for the day for Oct 11
Date: 11 Oct 92 06:33:50 GMT

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Just a reminder...

          Do not believe that he who seeks to comfort you  now  lives
          untroubled  among the simple and quiet words that sometimes
          do you good.  His life has much difficulty and sadness  and
          remains far behind yours.  Were it otherwise he would never
          have been able to find those words.

                             -- Rainer Maria Rilke


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From: stote@tomcat.den.mmc.com (M. Stote)
Subject: Re: Falling off the edge ...... plink!
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:49:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.202005.21162@unislc.uucp>, erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
|> Nancy Agnew (sasnla@shadow.unx.sas.com) wrote:
|> 
|> : In article <BvKM1x.Mr8@twwells.com>, anon-1055@twwells.com (m&m) writes:
|> : >
|> : >That's the issue.  Simon & Garfunkel's song "I am a rock, I am an Island" was
|> : >my theme song for years.  I am so tempted to go back, but if I do Michael
|> : >will die, but if I don't it'll hurt so bad I'll die anyway!!!
|> : 
|> : oh, me too, me too.  I used that song from the first day I heard it.
|> : I thought it was how things were supposed to be.....
|> 
|>           But maybe it would be a beautiful thing  to  ...  find  out
|>           what  it  is  again  to  be  dependent  upon people and how
|>           beautiful it is to be able to say to someone "I need  you."
|>           We  think  to  be  a grownup we must be independent and not
|>           need anyone ...  and that's why we're dying of  loneliness.
|>           How  wonderful  to be needed!  And how great to need and to
|>           be able to say to someone, "I need." I have no hangup about
|>           saying I need all of you, every single one of you.
|> 
|>                             -- Leo F. Buscaglia, Ph.D,
|>                               "Living, Loving, & Learning"
|> -- 
|> Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
|> "This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
|> happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
|> and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"

That's the whole drive behind my healing.  I am so tired of being an island
and a rock.  I did it so long and so well its a bitch for me let fo of it.

My friend and I are both in a real pressure cooker right now, from external
events.  Its been really cool that we've been able to come to a place where we
can tell each other how we're feeling without the other having to take on the
responsibility of doing something about it.  Or at least we each know we can
honor ourselves in how we respond to each other.  

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Fare Well
Mike Stoughton
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Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
From: Gavin.Flower@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:42:39 GMT

In article <58710001@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:
>              Please answer these 9 questions and return.
>
>1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
>Yes                  [ ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]

naive question, men & women are entitled to equal respect, but a lot
of stupidity is caused in this area


>
>2.) Are you pro choice?
>Yes                  [ ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]
>
question unclear, but I guess what you mean from later questions, very
emotional topic, not up to debating this issue



>3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
>Yes                  [ ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]
somtimes


>
>4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
>rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
>Yes                  [ ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]
There are at least two quetions here.  Really if there is to be a
choice of continuing the pregnancy, it is only meaningful to give the
woman the final decision, with very rare exceptions. As to support of
the child, then both the parents and society are involved.  The more I
think about this, the more complex it gets.  If a child is born,
*THEN* it is important that it be raised to be a credit, rather than a
drain on society - during the lifetime of an individual, society as a
whole is impacted more than the parents, especially if the child tends
towards the extremes of good/bad.


>
>5.) What sex are you?
>Male               [ ]
>Female             [ ]
male


>
>6.) How old are you?
>Under 18           [ ]
>19 to 65           [ ]
>Over 65            [ ]
>
19 - 65


>7.) What religion are you?
>Protestant         [ ]
>Catholic           [ ]
>Jewish             [ ]
>Other              [ ]
?


>
>8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
>Democratic         [ ]
>Republican         [ ]
>Other              [ ]
Most people live outside the USA, so this question is a bit silly!


>
>9.) How many years of education have you completed?
>Grade School       [ ]
>High School        [ ]
>College            [ ]
>More               [ ]
more


Gavin


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From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery,alt.sex.bondage,alt.personals.misc,alt.personals.ads,alt.personals.bondage,alt.personals.poly,alt.polyamory
Subject: Re: Important ACS update (godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu)
Date: 9 Oct 1992 09:48:33 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1

In alt.polyamory, article <1992Oct07.200131.11520@cubic.com>,
  hees@cubic.com (Phil Hees) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.012938.28732@wam.umd.edu> nuke@wam.umd.edu (root) writes:
> >
> >Out of curiosity... why have an anonymous address, if you publicly post
> >what that address is?  I assume I'm missing something, here...
> 
> So that other people can send mail to her and maintain their anonymity.
> There are currently no ACS systems that allow you to send anonymous mail to
> a random non-anonymous user (and there probably won't ever be any, since
> the potential for misuse is high).
> 
Well, I'm running a generic (i.e., post to any newsgroup and mail to any user)
anonymous server. It's for German users only because my system can't handle
the high load.

There haven't been any abuses yet. I like to think this is because of the 
rather strict rules I'm imposing on its usage, i.e. anybody who sends abusive
or illegal postings or mail through it gets their alias and the mail in
question published.
For the purposes of the server, illegal is defined as The Law, minus anything
which I don't think should be forbidden. Sex, for instance.  ;-)

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From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Subject: Re: will it be a chanb. or combo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
Date: 16 Oct 1992 07:15 EST  

In article <1992Oct15.174944.17230@muddcs.claremont.edu>, uribe@jarthur.claremont.edu (Lydia Uribe) writes...
> 
>To sort of get this back on track, is there anybody else out there who uses
>music as a therapeutic tool?  I find that, when I start getting *really*
>depressed and down on myself, singing will usually help relieve it (even
>when nothing else does).
> 

Sometimes, when I feel like I want to cry, but can't get the tears to come, 
I'll use music to get started.  Relieves a lot of tension.
Also, if you're into opera, some of the songs in opera can get me into a 
*fine* temper!  :-)

Gentleness to all
-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: will it be a chanb. or combo
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:57:56 GMT

Teresa Kline (aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov) wrote:

: Sometimes, when I feel like I want to cry, but can't get the tears to come, 
: I'll use music to get started.  Relieves a lot of tension.
: Also, if you're into opera, some of the songs in opera can get me into a 
: *fine* temper!  :-)

...and welcome back, Teresa! :)

A friend uses "Les Miz" to get the tears started.  For depression, I use
anything by Basia, and for relaxation, I find that Steven HAlpern's "Spectrum
Suite" or "Crystal Suite" albums work wonders.

Some of Dick Sutphen's music-with-subliminals (from Valley of the Sun
publishing) does a whole lot, too...
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From: anonymus+845@godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: waiting still
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:21:41 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service


 I want to thank all the people who
 responded to my post-- it means a lot.

 I had a bad couple of nights-  I am so
 frightened when I am at home alone
 and in bed now-- It just feels 
 incrediably lonely.  I called my neighbor
 last night (we had been lovers for a month
 one time-- then he told me he already had
 another girlfriend and didn't want to hurt
 her-- of course I had like the jerk, trusted
 him and spilled my guts out to him)  anyway,
 I just wanted to talk and maybe have him
 hold me in a friendly way- no sex.  He says
 he still wants to be my friend-- well, what
 the conversation amounted to was he thought
 I should join some group to fill my time and
 that what he had in mind of friendship was
 maybe having a cup of coffee once in awhile.

 Boy, did that make me feel rejected, confused
 and damn mad!  It was like "why are you 
 bothering me about this-- and what is the
 big deal anyway"  It also made me feel
 very bad about our sexual relationship- that
 I was just used and now was no longer wanted-
 I was so sorry that I even told him about my
 sexual abuse as as child--  I guess I am not
 to the point of being careful who I tell--
 I had hidden it for so long and now it's like
 I can't keep my mouth shut!

 Thanks for listening to my whinning and my little
 "pity party"  I'm learning more every day.  Some
 day I will be back to a strong, reasonable person-
 but maybe I will have more understanding of others
 faults -- if I make it through this.

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From: Gavin.Flower@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower)
Subject: Re: Abuse and Homosexuality
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:50:22 GMT

In article <73390@apple.Apple.COM> brad@Apple.COM (Brad Zaller) writes:
>muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
>
>>In article <1bfbq7INNir8@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
>>> Actually, I quite resent that comment.  Only 45.223% of men have a
>>> fascination with stats.
>
>>Ahh, but what about a fascination with statisticians?
>
>I'd say that's deviant behaviour, but that would be mean...   

It's probably just Normal variance.


Gavin
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