From: s8923098@macnab.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Josef WIDJAJA)
Subject: Re: NO MORE ILLEGAL WORKERS, PLEASE!!!
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:25:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.224645.651@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> ckcheng@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
|In article <1993Jan16.034403.28512@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, othman@ntrc25.ntrc.ntu.ac.sg (othman (EEE/Div 4)) writes:

|> Look what happend to Indonesia and Uganda when they kicked out the chinese.
|> The economy may suffer but did the natives suffer? The natives gain at least
|> more benefits. The capital of Uganda look beautiful even without the chinese.
|> Are you saying the Indonesians now are less prosperous than when there were
|> more chinese.

Uganda has gone backwards since. If you measure economic development by
how beautiful a nation's capital looks, consider the case of Ivory Coast.
The president (read dictator) is building the biggest Catholic Church 
in the world, heaps bigger than St.Peter's Bassillica. Yet it is still
a poor country, a huge proportion of its citizens are still living in
poverty.

Indonesia did not kick out all the Chinese, there are still quite a lot
of them left behind. And they are now the driving force behind  Indonesia's
economic development. The Chinese in Indonesia have contributed a lot to 
the economic development; and in the sporting arena, have a closer look
at Badminton, the most popular sport in the country, most of Indonesia's
top players, past and present,  are of Chinese descent.
 
|> You should have read the indonesian thread. The chinese there have destroyed
|> the Indonesian enviroments and even livelihoods of the natives, all in the
|> name of development. In fact the natives have become the slaves of the chinese.

Listen, sir. On the subject of the environment, your Prime Minister, 
Dr. Mahathir, always criticizes the West for objecting to rainforest
logging in Malaysia. He argues that it is imperative that Malaysia be 
allowed to use up her natural resources for economic advancement of her
people. There is no doubt that the Chinese and native malaysians benefit
from this, yet you will support your PM and at the same time accuse the
Chinese of destroying the environment. Shame on you, shame!

I read the indonesian thread always, but I could not recall any posting on
chinese damaging the environments in Indonesia and enslaving the natives.
If you want to use the master and slave analogy to support your baseless
claims, think about this: In America, the African slaves were forced to 
to adopt European names. Nowadays, most (99%) Black Americans have European
names. Nowadays, most Chinese Indonesian have Indonesian names. See which 
one is the slave?

Your statement that 'the natives have become the slaves of the chinese'
needs to be supported by facts which you undoubtedly can not provide.
You are quite content with distributing your hate message not unlike the
KKK that I long admire (for their manipulative campaigns aimed at people
with less than average intelligence). The world would be truly better 
without people like you.
 
Enough said.


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