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From: oldera@twg.com (Ed Alcoff)
Subject: Wollongong Management Station Mail List
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:51:28 GMT



(I apologize in advance if anyone takes offense with
what may be percieved as a commercial use of this news
group, but I do so in order to reach as many of our
customers as possible.  You may recall a similar message
re: SunNet Manager's Users Group).

I would like to announce the formation of an Internet
mail list that is specifically for The Wollongong 
Group's PathWay Management Station users.

This unmoderated mail group, courtesy of the University of
Oregon in Eugene, Oregon, has been set up for the following
purposes:
 
1)To encourage communication and the sharing of information 
between and among Management Station users;
  
2)To provide a central archive site, accessible with anonymous
ftp, for contributions of customized applications (e.g., xmibform,
xmibchart, netmgtd alarms, bitmaps, etc.).  Contributions with
any restrictions (copyright, trademark, etc.) will be removed,
but acknowledgments and disclaimers are acceptable.  Contributions
of sound design and that are applicable to the general marketplace
may be considered for inclusion in the next release of Management
Station;
  
3)To provide a central forum that may communicate directly with
Wollongong Product Marketing.

This mail list is not intended to supplement or replace any
Wollongong Product Support Agreements or the Wollongong Modification
Request system.  There is no guarantee nor inference that questions
of a support/problem nature will be answered.  To become a member of
this mail list, you must have Internet mail access.  For using/
contributing to the central archive, you must also have Internet ftp
capability.  To subscribe to the mail list, please send a message to:
	
mgtstn-request@ns.uoregon.edu		Subject line of: subscribe

To send a message to all members of the mail group, just use an address of:

mgtstn@ns.uoregon.edu		(Internet address is 128.223.32.35)


Respectfully,


The Wollongong Group, Inc.
Ed Alcoff
Product Line Manager
(415) 962-7240
oldera@twg.com


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
From: alexism@ngc.com (Alexis Mermet)
Subject: Working group on standard router MIB ?
Summary: Is there a working group for defining a standard router MIB
Keywords: router MIB 
Organization: Network General Corporation
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:51:53 GMT

Simple question,
I did not find a vendor-independant standard MIB for routers.
Is there currently a working group to define such a MIB ?

Thank you,
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Software Engineer. R&D    		Fax:   415-321-0855
Network General Corp.
From: simon@moscow.uidaho.edu (Mike Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
Subject: Re: NON-Graphical SNM
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:21:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: moscow.C1FvwC.8AM
Organization: University of Idaho CS Dept.

Um, as I understand it the BASIS for most of the graphicly based SNMP
software is either the MIT or CMU implementations, which are primarily
libraries for constructing and issuing the SNMP packets.  I use the
CMU package for text based logfile generation all the time.  

You can find a copy on ftp.uu.net, in the directory /networking/ip/manage/snmp
under the name cmu-snmp1.0.tar.Z, hope this helps!  

Oh, bye the way, if you need volunteer designers/coders for a project
related to access for the blind, let me know.

Mike Simon
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: smartin@Canada.lsil.com (Stephen Martin)
Subject: Extensions to Sun Net Manager
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation of Canada, Inc.
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:31:04 GMT

I've got my Sun Net Manager implementation almost to the point where it is
starting to get useful and have been thinking about the sort of things that
I'd like to do with it, one of the ideas is that it would be really nice to
be able to monitor disk errors and retrys on my file servers around the
country. We still have a lot of old SMD disks that are starting to die on
a regular basis. What I would like to know is, is there a structure in the
kernel or device driver that keeps track of the number read and write retries
and failures? And is it difficult to write your own agents for SNM? Also has
anyone implemented a shell script or perl interface, so that you can generate
traps from scripts?

Other ideas i have in mind as SNM extensions are:

o A watchdog process that checks up on our back up systems and generates
  events if a backup fails.

o An agent that watches logins to modems and reports on failures, etc.

If anyone has any ideas or experiences that they would like to share please
send me some email.
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From: ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
Subject: Re: CableTron MiniMMAC reports only 1 interface
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:27:55 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: NobelTech AB

In article <1993Jan15.142317.2091@msus1.msus.edu> mndot@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>In article <1j72f7INN5pj@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, leach@OCE.ORST.EDU (Tom Leach) writes:
>> I've just received a couple of CableTron MiniMMACS with the SNMP board
>> installed (the NCMM board).  When I fire up snmpwalk (cmu snmp V1.1b) or
>> SunNet Manager (V1.2 or 2.0), they all report just 1 interface.
>I believe this is the correct response.  Their is truely only one interface. 
>It is either the AUI connector or the Fiber connector to your backbone.  I
>could be wrong on this but it seems to be consistent with the rest of
>cabletron's equipment and how they report.

Or, if that is not the answer, perhaps your box doesn't have all ports
enabled. I've often been tricked by the fact that you have to enable
new ports from the terminal port when installing new cards in the MMAC.

/Per


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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
From: janke@plains.NoDak.edu (Jeremy Janke)
Subject: cmu-snmp.1.0 MIB parsing
Summary: CMU code parse MIB-II? 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:25:28 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
Keywords: CMU MIB-II 

Can the cmu-snmp.1.0 package correctly parse a MIB-II?  It won't parse either
the mib.txt from snmp2.0.1 (which includes MIB-II), or the mib.txt from
cmu-snmp.1.0 when I modify it to include all the new additions included in
MIB-II.  However, parsing worked when I added just the four new system group 
objects to the cmu-snmp.1.0 mib.txt file.  Are there just a small set of MIB-II
objects that cmu-snmp.1.0 can't handle?

Ideally, I would like a copy of a MIB-II mib.txt file that the cmu-snmp.1.0
package can correctly parse.

-- 

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EE Graduate Student                     uunet!plains!janke     (UUCP)
North Dakota State University           janke@plains           (Bitnet)  
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
From: alexism@ngc.com (Alexis Mermet)
Subject: MIBs & Novell servers, HP-Openview, NMS, Sun net mgr
Summary: Is there a MIB for ... ?
Keywords: MIB Novel Server Openview Network Management
Organization: Network General Corporation
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:57:31 GMT

The subject says it all.

1/
Is there a MIB for a Novell server ?

2/
While I am here, I would also like to know if network management systems
like HP-OPENVIEW , Novell NMS , Sun net manager ... export some MIB to allow
'external applications' ( by external I mean application that are not written
specifically for those network management platforms ) to query network
information from their database ?

Thank for your answers.


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Software Engineer. R&D    		Fax:   415-321-0855
Network General Corp.
From: martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
Subject: Re: CableTron MiniMMAC reports only 1 interface
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:30:18 GMT
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp., Hopkinton Mass.

In article <1993Jan21.092755.23543@nobeltech.se> ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson) writes:
>In article <1993Jan15.142317.2091@msus1.msus.edu> mndot@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>>In article <1j72f7INN5pj@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, leach@OCE.ORST.EDU (Tom Leach) writes:

>>> I've just received a couple of CableTron MiniMMACS with the SNMP board
>>> installed (the NCMM board).  When I fire up snmpwalk (cmu snmp V1.1b) or
>>> SunNet Manager (V1.2 or 2.0), they all report just 1 interface.
>>I believe this is the correct response.  Their is truely only one interface. 
>>It is either the AUI connector or the Fiber connector to your backbone.  I
>>could be wrong on this but it seems to be consistent with the rest of
>>cabletron's equipment and how they report.

>Or, if that is not the answer, perhaps your box doesn't have all ports
>enabled. I've often been tricked by the fact that you have to enable
>new ports from the terminal port when installing new cards in the MMAC.

>/Per

The response of one link up is correct for a cabletron concentrator.
The SNMP links refer to connection of a device to an IP subnetwork.
The Cabletron box probably has but one connection to the IP subnetwork
and thus one IP interface and should only report one link up.

There is some fairly good textual evidence that there was a major
dearth of expertise relating to bridging and repeater/concentrator
devices during the specification of SNMP.

As a consequence, the reporting of information about the status of
interfaces and links at any other layer other than the network layer
is a task which SNMP (and Son of SNMP) serve rather badly.

In the case of Constellation Bridge or Bridge-Router products, a
Network layer interface corresponds to a logical subbridge (which in
the case of a pure bridge is the whole bridge).  The an IP interface
can correspond to multiple MAC port.  A MAC port can itself be a 6 UTP
segment repeater.

If SNMP took cognizance of such not uncommon device and device
combinations, SNMP would specificy PortUp/PortDown and
SegmentUp/SegmentDown in addition to LinkUp/LinkDown traps.


In short, Cabletron is correct and SNMP (and son of SNMP) is
inadequate for common networking environments.

-- 
Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami

The article represents noone's opinions other than the author's.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
From: rpratt@novell.com (Robert Pratt)
Subject: Re: MIBs & Novell servers, HP-Openview, NMS, Sun net mgr
Keywords: MIB Novel Server Openview Network Management
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:59:31 GMT

  Ooops, I forgot one thing.  The base MIB-I is IP only (I think) but all
of the other MIBs and the base SNMP agent 2.0 support both IP and IPX
transparently across all MIBs.

Bob

Bob Pratt                               | voice     : (408) 473-8274
Network Management Products Division    | Fax       : (408) 435-1706
Novell, Inc.                            | more voice: (800) 243-8526
2180 Fortune Drive, San Jose, Ca. 95131 | Internet  : rpratt@Novell.com
"The line between actually very serious and actually very funny
is actually very thin." John LeCarre
Disclaimer:  I do not speak for Novell in any way, shape, or form.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
From: martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
Subject: NON-Graphical SNM
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:52:57 GMT


Is there a publicly available SNMP package whose user agent
is text-based rather than graphically-based?  The majority of
the SNMP packages around are based on the various windowing
I/O formats such as Sunview or X-windows.  I am looking for
something that is text-based for two reasons.  Graphically-
oriented programs are totally useless to blind people.  They
are also end-points in that nothing much else can be done
with the output from the program, but look at it.  Text-based
programs, on the other hand, can be accessed from many
different kinds of terminal devices from dumb terminals to
PC's running scripts.

     Basically, what I am looking for is an open-ended text-
based system whose source is available to modify, when
necessary.  Like all universities, we have lots of expertise,
a reasonable amount of time, but very little extra money.

     If I find out about anything that works for us, I will
post results to the group.

     Here at Oklahoma State University, our networking system
is getting more and more complex.  We have a very extensive
and expensive commercial NMS program which is totally
graphical.  I am a blind person who is the system
administrator on the system on which this program resides,
and I can't even access it, much less use it.  While there
are several others who can use the program, network
management is officially one of my areas of responsibility.
I hope that something can be done without reenventing the
wheel.

     As a bit of background, many blind computer users get
along just fine using the sort of text-based programs that
used to be the main stay of computing.  The easiest method of
access is to use a personal computer equipped with speech
synthesizer, screen-reading software, and telecommunications
hardware and software connected to either a serial port on a
Unix system, terminal server, or via dial-up modem.  There
are companies and groups who are working on accessible
interfaces for MS-Windows and X-Windows, but that still means
that existing older equipment is forced in to obsolescence
even though nothing is really wrong with it.  The frustrating
thing is that text-based interfaces are usable by everybody
but graphical interfaces are only usable by certain people
running certain hardware.  Interchangeable parts are what
made the industrial revolution possible.  In computing I/O,
we seem to be slipping backwards to an earlier time when it
was a real miracle when two pieces of gear made by different
manufacturers would even sort of work, much less work
properly.

     Any constructive suggestions of software packages that
do not require graphics terminals are greatly appreciated.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group
From: bmug@garnet.berkeley.edu (BMUG)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
Subject: Re: Wollongong Management Station Mail List
Date: 24 Jan 1993 03:28:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan23.195128.12141@twg.com> oldera@twg.com (Ed Alcoff) writes:
>
> (much deleted)
>  You may recall a similar message
>re: SunNet Manager's Users Group).
>
>I would like to announce the formation of an Internet
>mail list that is specifically for The Wollongong 
>Group's PathWay Management Station users.
>
> (even more deleted)
>

Would somebody send me information on how to subscribe to the
SunNet Managers User Group mail list?

Also, if there's a Synoptics mail list, I'd love to know about it...


Thanks!

John Heckendorn
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
From: rpratt@novell.com (Robert Pratt)
Subject: Re: MIBs & Novell servers, HP-Openview, NMS, Sun net mgr
Keywords: MIB Novel Server Openview Network Management
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:57:36 GMT

>Is there a MIB for a Novell server ?
Yes.  Base NetWare 3.11 supports MIB I on IP.  There is an update to SNMP
available from Novell in a variety of products, or to any customer who
pesters their reseller for it :-) that supports MIB-II.
   In addition, there is a portion of the NetWare Management System called
NetExplorer Plus that is freely duplicatable to all servers within an
enterprise that implements another MIB that contains some discovery
information to aid in mapping the database.  This MIB is included within
the NMS product.
>
>2/
>While I am here, I would also like to know if network management systems
>like HP-OPENVIEW , Novell NMS , Sun net manager ... export some MIB to allow
>'external applications' ( by external I mean application that are not written
>specifically for those network management platforms ) to query network
>information from their database ?
   In general, I don't think management systems have this type of MIB.  
Novell's NMS, for instance, doesn't allow SNMP queries to the database.  What
it does have is an open database schema allowing applications to do btrieve
queries to the database.  The app could then export the data via SNMP if
it chose to do so.

Bob

Bob Pratt                               | voice     : (408) 473-8274
Network Management Products Division    | Fax       : (408) 435-1706
Novell, Inc.                            | more voice: (800) 243-8526
2180 Fortune Drive, San Jose, Ca. 95131 | Internet  : rpratt@Novell.com
"The line between actually very serious and actually very funny
is actually very thin." John LeCarre
Disclaimer:  I do not speak for Novell in any way, shape, or form.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
From: rthomas@sps.mot.com (Ralph Thomas)
Subject: SunNet Manager performance under heavy snmp polling loads
Reply-To: rthomas@sps.mot.com
Organization: motorola_sps
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:30:41 GMT

I have been adding more and more data reports (snmp queries) under SunNet
Manager 1.2 and have noticed a near linear increase in system resource
consumption. Each new data report starts another copy of na.snmp to support
its snmp query. As system load grew I added more RAM and swap space to 
maintain the SPARC 2 workstation's performance.

Under SunNet Manager 2.0 na.snmp was enhanced to permit it to service
multiple data reports from one copy of na.snmp (the default from Sun is 20
data reports per copy of na.snmp). There are a few variables Sun supplies
in the snm.conf file to allow some tuning of the new na.snmp process.

Under 1.2 I am able to successfully run about 670 data reports, and it looks
like there is some room left to run a few more before the SPARC 2 expires.
Under 2.0 I was unable to run more than 189 data reports. I increased the
time out values for na.snmp* variables in snm.conf, which helped a little,
and also increased "Request Timeout" under the console properties, but am
still unable to get as many data reports to run under 2.0 as I had under
1.2.  Sun has said there is a performance enhancement coming for the 2.0
na.snmp later this year. In the meantime I would like to know if anyone
else has had a similar experience with SunNet Manager 2.0 and how they
increased the number of data reports. I realize the load on na.snmp is also
influenced by the number of mibs (objects) being queried. On average each
query is for about 15 counter type mibs.

Please post your response in this group, or email your response to me at 
rxth31@email.sps.mot.com.

Thanks,
Ralph Thomas

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
From: jim@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Rational SNMP MIB in ASN.1 format
Organization: nasa-jsc
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:54:32 GMT

Does anyone have the Rational SNMP MIB in ASN.1 format? If so, we are trying to
obtain a copy for our network management station running WIN MGT. I would
appreciate any information about where to get it.
Thanks, 
Jim Dickerson
SSE Project
From: glen@Cayman.COM (Glen B. Glater)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
Subject: SunNet Manager and monitors
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:51:53 GMT
Distribution: comp.protocols.snmp
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA

Does anyone know if SNM requires a certain type of monitor (certain color
depth, for example) to run?

I can't get the window to open on my NCD Greyscale XTerminal, but it
opens fine when popped onto an RS6000's Color monitor.

thanks.

Glen
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From: gordon@rahul.net (Gordon Vickers)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp
Subject: I only posted it ONCE !!
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:39:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: a2i network


       First, thank  you to all (many, many, many) who sent me so much
    helpful information. 
       For the many, many more who assumed that I was some sort of a
    WhatEverMutant for  having posted so many copies : I only posted
    it once! Stop putting so much faith in the technology and so little
    in the people trying to use it, after all it's only 1993 !

For a better explaination (and many thanks to Jeff Johnson):
>  From: jeffj@ultra.com (Jeff Johnson)
> To: snmp@psi.com, gordon@rahul.net
> Subject: Re: Very basic info needed (please)
>
>I was wondering why I was being bombarded with this message, and then
>noticed the following:
>=> Newsgroups: info.snmp,comp.protocols.snmp
>
>This message is being propagated by NetNews.  The origin of this
>message was a post to a local newsgroup "info.snmp" which is gatewayed
>to this SNMP mailing list.  Normally when a message is posted to a
>local newsgroup it is not propagated outside the local domain.  In this
>case, however, it was cross-posted to a "global" newsgroup, hence the
>message is being propagated.  And now every site which has an
>"info.snmp" newsgroup gatewayed to the mailing list is resending the
>message to the list.  I guess there is a lesson to be learned here, but
>what is that message, and who is to for?  I'd say the message is for
>system admins, and the message is "don't gateway a message from a newsgroup
>to a mailing list unless the message originated in your domain".
>
>    Jeff Johnson    | Ultra Network Technologies | voice: (408) 922-0100 x284
>  jeffj@ultra.com   |     101 Daggett Drive      |   fax: (408) 433-9287
>...ames!ultra!jeffj |    San Jose, CA  95134     |   sex: (900) 976-4825
> The difference between ignorance and apathy?  I don't know and I don't care

-- 
Gordon Vickers <gordon@rahul.net>
From: yawn@hydra.unm.edu (Ian Zenoni)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm
Subject: PC sockets
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:33:14 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.unm.edu

I was wondering if anybody has some info on C source code for
using sockets with and IBM PC using Telnet.
I have code for doing it from on ULTRIX and I would
like to set up a socket on my PC to the UNIX machine.
Any ideas on where I might get some info would be great.
Please e-mail me directly since I do not read this 
news group.

Ian Zenoni
yawn@ariel.unm.edu

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp
From: katz@tss.com (Greg Katz)
Subject: MacPPP
Reply-To: katz@tss.COM
Organization: Teknekron Software Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:04:38 GMT

I presume MacPPP is what it says PPP for Mackintosh. Is there
any more info on it, wether it works, how to get it, etc.


-- 
Gregory Katz
Teknekron Software Systems, Inc
530 Lytton Ave, ste 301 
Palo Alto, Ca 
tel 415-6172423