HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Good news for "Snap" users
Date: 15 Dec 1992 04:23:44 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

In article <57505@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>	I have some good news for people who stopped using "Snap" by Mikael
>Karlsson under Workbench 2.04.  Since I upgraded to Workbench 2.1, Snap
>appears to work perfectly!!  I'm using Snap 1.62 on a 68030 Amiga.
>
>	Under 2.04, Snap would sometimes incorrectly copy the text, so a
>word like "Hello" would paste as "HHHHe" or something like that.  This
>problem seems to have disappeared completely under 2.1.
>
>	Yay!! :-)

Boo!!.

Hearing stuff like this really cranks my wheel.

It is NOT good that stuff that didn't work under 2.04 now works under
2.1 flawlessly.

Why?

It means the program has a bug.  And it'll be REAL easy to find, too,
because 2.1's SetPatch didn't patch all that many of them.  And now,
thanks to C=, that bug will very likely never get fixed.

I'm really getting annoyed with C=.  I know they're good guys and all,
and they're great programmers and engineers, but I'm really getting
annoyed with the way they KEEP INSERTING KLUDGES TO FIX BUGGY
PROGRAMS.

If the coders would get off of their lazy asses and FIX the problems
they have with their software, C= wouldn't have to be continuously
holding their hand.

There.  I've vented enough frustration.  This was never really aimed
at you, dan.  More or less just conjecture, and if anyone is the
target, that would be the author of the program that now "magically"
works under 2.1, making 2.0 seem broken.

I wish C= would have just kept those damn things out.  They've said
all along "don't depend on odd behavior from system functions" and "do
it this way".  People insist on depending on odd functions, people
insist on doing it the wrong way.

Break them, C=.  Trash every damn program that's like that.  Or tell
us about it.

An AutoRequest that pops up and says "Dear User:  You should replace
program XXX with a newer version or another program because:  It tried
to access the IAddress of a message that was of an incorrect type" or
something.  But don't let it look like suddenly the OS is at fault
when your magic causes things to work when they shouldn't.

Greg
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Program that logs ALL reads/writes on a HD??
From: batman@amigans.gen.nz (Kerry Emerson)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 12:52:53 GMT+1
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand

ccocstt@prism.gatech.EDU (Dr.Love) writes:
 
> Is there a program that can log HD access information?
Yup, there's one called SnoopDOS.  Its very good and list read/writes and 
when libraries/handlers are opened etc, and even tells you whether the 
computer was successful.  Its good.  Look for it on a BBS somewhere.
From: ekrieger@quasar.hacktic.nl (Eric Krieger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: LhA V1.35 Bugs?
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:21:43 GMT+1
Distribution: world
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Dec14.002035.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>
 cl128219@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

>   After running LhA V1.35, I loose all of my requesters.  Instead of the
> nice little box in the upper right hand corner I get command line
> messages.  What is the problem here?  Is this a bad version?

Yes, it's a bad version.  Look at the following texts, taken from the
Update.TXT of V1.38e:


 : V1.36 : August 18 1992
 :
 : - Added code to handle case when LhA is called with a bad
 :   environment, i.e. all fields in the process structure not correctly
 :   initialized. This should take care of most problems arising with
 :   brain-damaged programs such as GCCHost, which fail to set up a CLI
 :   structure.
 :
 : - LhA now respects -x setting with level-[12] headers.
 :
 : - Added protection for `s:startup-sequence'-type hacks. (A.J. Brouwer)
 :
 : - Fixed requester suppression bug. Only appeared if you had no LHAOPTS
 :  environment variable. (Many reports).


> P.S.  I have, for now, revered back to LhA V1.30 and this has cleared
> up the problem.  Not the best solution, but it works.

Why don't use get/use the latest evaluation version V1.38e, or
better, register.  I'm using the latest registered version (V1.42r) a
few months now without problems!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: cl128219@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: LhA V1.35 Bugs?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:20:35 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

  After running LhA V1.35, I loose all of my requesters.  Instead of the nice
little box in the upper right hand corner I get command line messages.  What is 
the problem here?  Is this a bad version?  

P.S.  I have, for now, revered back to LhA V1.30 and this has cleared up the
	problem.  Not the best solution, but it works.
 
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|  \X/ AMIGA, makes it possible!  \___/    |     " No Sir, Didnt Like It! "    |
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From: aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 17:24:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Xwindows and the Amiga
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications

| I am not familar with the X-window part of your question, but I do know a bit
| about the networking.  You will new to run slip.  If you have Release 1.1 of
| the operating system or greater and have the networking package installed.
| you have the software to run slip.  I have the instuction on how to set up
| slip if you are interested.  I have run slip for almost a year with few
| problems, none major until a recent routing problem.

Matt,

Concerning the info on setting up a slip connection, would you do a 'mini-faq' 
or E-mail me as well?  I've been curious about what it actually takes to do 
this.

Thanks!

Jim 8')s
aites@hpsmpa.lvld.hp.com
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Directory Opus
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:48:51 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>On Fri 11-Dec-1992  1:48p, Alan MacAnespie wrote:
>
>AM> Yep: $100.  Shipping for upgrades is supposed to start sometime next
>AM> week.
>
>UHNG!  I paid that much for my BBS program.  While I love DirectoryOpus to
>death, I can do without v4.0 until Inovatronics stops this nonsense.

It appears that your BBS will not work with DirOpus, no?  If you are running
the CPU meter on DirOpus, turn it off and your BBS problems should "log
out."

>AM> (All prices ($) contained above refer to US dollars)
>
>_I_ was hoping they were pesos at those numbers. :(
>
>--- Via UCI v1.17 (C-Net Amiga)
>
> .............................................................................
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>

-Joel
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From: laire@klee.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Looking for a debugger...
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:45:35 +0100
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: klee.uni-paderborn.de

bloc1469@ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:

>Are there any debuggers available that support automatically watching
>and debugging the processes and tasks spawned by a program?  I know of
>three, CPR, PowerVisor, and MykesBug, and none seem to support it.

>Prove me wrong.

BDebug can catch tasks,the next opened task and crashed tasks...but
it's not out yet. I hope 1st quarter 93.

Regards...
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Ralph Schmidt                                            laire@uni-paderborn.de
University of Paderborn (Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: sarrasin@disuns2.epfl.ch (Christian Sarrasin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PageLiner and BME Patches
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:46:52 GMT
Reply-To: sarrasin@disuns2.epfl.ch (Christian Sarrasin)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <71509@cup.portal.com> soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson) writes:
>Updates to Soft-Logik's PAGELiner and BME products have been released
>and are available on the Soft-Logik BBS (314 894-0057), Portal
>Communications and 2 ftp sites:

I really like soft-logik's uprgade policy, and I'd say it's one of the best I
have ever met.

However, as far as Pageliner is concerned, it really *needed* urgently a patch.

It's kind of funny, bacause I was _trying_ to write a longish software manual
with PageLiner 1.1.1 hotlinked to PageStream when I read about the patch.
Actually, PageLiner was guruing my machine (A3000/25 w/10MB and 2.04) about
every 10 minutes or so. I found it *real* unusable :-( :-( It's just terrible
when the sole action of moving the cursor down a few lines can crash the whole
machine :-(

Well, v1.1.2 does the job a little bit better, but still crashes my machine.
Only now it happens kind of less often...

Kevin, do you know if a shomehow stable version of PageLiner is going to be
available sometime soon?

Keep it improving, and thanks for your upgrade policy...

Christian.

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From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: MORPHORMONGERMODULES soon ?
Keywords: whining, ignorant, Marc, Barrett
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:32:05 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

In article <1992Dec18.164139.527@ulrik.uio.no> ovep@kih.no (Ove Tro) writes:
>When the additional MODULES for MORPHORMONGER is released...
>will they include a MARCMORPHER module ??
>I mean, to the EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT ULTIMATE PROGRAMMERS at B.INC.,
>it would not be impossible to make a module for morphing
>Marc Barrett into a positive and really nice guy....

	We have no plans currently for any Marc-Morphing Modules.  However,
you may find our latest product, IGNORE-MONGER, to be useful in this
situation.

	Followups to c.s.a.advocacy. :-)

                                                        Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: ProPage 3.0 help!!!
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:42:20 GMT

In article <trat.0kmw@amiganet.chi.il.us>, trat@amiganet.chi.il.us (Tom Reamer) writes:
|> I don't know if this would go here, but I need MAJOR help with ProPage 3.0

I want 4.0... 8)

I'll try to answer a few of your questions...

|> I bought it direct from Gold Disk.  I am using a HP DeskJet 500C

I've only used it with LaserJets, but try these things anyway...

|> When printing, the page is no where near centered, so I have to crank the whole
|> page to the left.  

Check your actual Workbench printer preferences first. 

The way ProPage works with printers is fascinating in the extreme. It's so
completely warped, I can't believe someone hasn't blased away the old print
system and implemented a completely new one. Maybe in 4.0....

1> The WB printer prefs settings should NOT be set to "centre picture". PPage
outputs its stuff as really,really big bitmaps, and the print system will try
to centre it just like any other. The problem is that PPage only prints as wide
as your widest box. If you try to print a 4" wide box on 8.5" paper, even if
you set the left edge to 1", it will be in the "centre" of the page. (Centre is
a subjective term, obviously - it never looks centred to me!)

2> BELIEVE the maximum page size values that PPage lets you put into the 
boxes in the print system. I know that, with the LaserJet driver, the max 
page LENGTH you can set is 10.00" - half an inch too short. I have *NO* idea
what causes this, as it does NOT happen with ProDraw 3.0, with the same print
driver! Weird...

|> If I print more than 1 page, the next page will space down about 1 inch or more
|> then start printing

Again, check those page length settings. And you Printer Graphics prefs.

|> Also, if I save AFTER I print, it will save messed up, with the wierd spacing.

That I don't understand. What do you mean by saving with "weird spacing". Does
the on-screen work physically CHANGE as you print? That would be really 
surprising....

|> Also, it has a habit of saving my work messed up at times.

You may want to talk to Gold Disk - these sound like BUGS. You could have a 
bad disk, or a beta version...

|> What can be the problem?  The output is 100 times better than Pagestream, but 

Damn right it is!  8)

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From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PD "virgin" needs advice
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:56:49 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green (+61 6 276 6813)) writes:

>Greeting fellow netters.

>I have recently expanded my system with the addition of a mucho-big (425Mb)
>hard drive and tape unit.

>So far I've have a few small forays into the land of PD. I got myself BTNtape
>and GNUtar so I can read and write Sun TAR tapes - very handy.

>What I would like to know is. What are the _must have_ utilities out there
>that I should get next?

>This PD software is great - but you need to know what you want _before_ you
>go searching. 


You might want to look at Fish disks - they don't really have the best stuff,
and a lot of the stuff on them is plain - well I can't really use that word
on the net, but there are handy database programs all over the place for them.
My favorite is FishCat, even though its interface needs some work.  I've looked
at KingFisher (gag me with a spoon, but I can't stand its 1.3ishness), and I
used Aquarium for a while (which is probably why I like the check-mark category
searching on FishCat).  Anyway, these things are all available on
ux1.cso.uiuc.edu here in the good new USA, under /amiga/fish somewhere.  There
are a lot of great utilities for ADOS2 that get outmoded by ADOS3, like
NickPrefs, which allows backdrop images, gets rid of floppy drive clicks, lets
you animate your busy pointer, and so on.  There's BellPrefs, which can set a
new systembeep (which gets trigged when a call to DisplayBeep() is made, so
in ProWrite, for example, you want it to be set to "Screen flash," which was
the standard result of a DisplayBeep() under ADOS2).  I'd also get ToolManager,
a very nice thingamabob that can build docks (almost as good as the NeXT's,
except of course that you can't drag things onto them (you have to drag them
into the config window instead), but that's understandable since the Amiga
doesn't have a standard icon size (which kind of sucks for some things, but
it's the American way ;) )), add items to the "Tools" menu, and set up AppIcons
for things like text readers (Set it up with MultiView under 3 for an easy
display-whatever-you-like click-drag operation), so you can just drag the file
onto it and read away (or click on it and select the "More..." option you've
added to the Tools menu).  Can you tell I used LISP too much in High School?

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From: rick@emma.tfbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Younie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Fonts => printer
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:22:04 GMT
Keywords: softload fonts printer
Distribution: world
Bcc: emma!rick
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

Is there a utility that will download the Amiga system fonts to a
printer?  I imagine that full-blown word processors will do this, but
I'd like to send fonts before printing from my editor.

I've got a 9-pin Citizen 200gx that has Epson FX-850 and IBM Proprinter
III emulation.  It has onboard ram and the docs say that font bitmaps
can be softloaded, but it looks like the Amiga fonts will have to be
massaged a bit before they can be sent.  And (at least under FX-850)
it looks like each character definition has to be sent separately.

Thanks.

Rick
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From: d505i@wartburg.auc.dk (Christian Hoj)
Subject: Re: Help with CG fonts from FTP.
Reply-To: d505i@wartburg.auc.dk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:38:34 GMT

In article 19354@pbs.org, kellsworth@pbs.org (Rufus T. Firefly) writes:
> I downloaded the CompuGraphic fonts that are on wuarchive.  I put them 
> into my CGFonts directory.  I ran ProPage.  All I get from the new
> fonts are boxes with (usually) the appropriate letter inside them.
> 
> I've looked through the PPage manuals and find no advice on what I may
> be doing wrong.  The only thing I know is that the *.atc files are not
> there for the new fonts.  I did get the *.lib, *.metric, and *.dat files.
> 
> Can anyone offer advice?
> 
> Thanks a bunch!
> 

Did you remember to run CGUpdate?
It might help. If it doesn't, there might be something wrong with the archive.
Then you have to download it again.

Christian Hoj

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From: Brian_-_Dziki@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Xwindows and the Amiga
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:42:11 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

     I have gotten several mail messages after my post inquiring about X-windo
for the Amiga. This is a commercial demo. You can order it from GFxBase for $3
The price of the demo is credited if you buy the full version ($395). Here i
some info on the product:

    Servers: Monochrome and Color
    Window Managers: OpenLook (olwm) and Tab (twm)
    Clients: xsol, xcalc, xset, xsetroot, xhost, maze xwd, xmodmap, bitmap
    Printer support: xpr
    PbmPlus: ppmtoilbm, ilbmtoppm, ppmquant, ppmtoxwd, xwdtoppm
    Fonts: Subset of X115 fonts
    Bitmaps: Complete set of X11R5 bitmaps
    Networks: Tcp/ip, DECnet, Local

    The full versions has more features, call GfxBase for info

       GfxBase, Inc
       1881 Ellwell Dr.
       Milpitas, Ca. 95035
       phone: 408-262-1469
       fax: 408-262-8276
       usenet: boing.com!dale

  (The demo version only runs for 30 minutes)

    Now back to what I was trying to do. I talk to a friend and h
some things to me. First, I can not connect into the university network via 
IP without prior arrangement. They need to assign me an IP address, etc. Also,
since I can only connect at 2400 baud, X-windows would be painfully slow. He
said that there are companies that can provide a high speed modem connection
to the internet. However, this is very expensive. Another option I have is to
get the source code for the application I am trying to run and compile it on t
Amiga. GfxBase sells a programmer's guide and toolkit that will allow me to do
this (it allows you to compile standard X11 source code with the SAS/C Compile
and run your own X applications under AmigaDos). This, however, cost $250.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: abair@parsons.sps.mot.com (Alan Bair)
Subject: Re: AmigaNOS ... DOCUMENTATION?
Organization: AMCU, Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas.
	<ByBvtD.1op@NeoSoft.com><ByCGxu.F6D@NeoSoft.com>
	<MJL.92Dec2112502@dino.ph.utexas.edu> <71290@cup.portal.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:18:59 GMT

In article <71290@cup.portal.com> jimdawson@cup.portal.com (Jim R Dawson) writes:

   Has anyone successfuly compiled AmigaNOS under SAS/C 6.(0|1)? I seem bo be
   having some troulbe getting everything to work properly.

   +-----------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
   |Jim Dawson - Author of AmiQWK .QWK mail reader | jimdawson@cup.portal.com|
   +-----------------------------------------------+-------------------------+

I managed to get a verison compiled under SAS/C 5.10b, but it did not work as
well as the orginal binary. The biggest problems I had was figuring out how
to convert the Aztec inline assembly code into the few assembly level functions
that SAS/C supports. There were also other minor source code problems and
of course the Makefile had to be rewritten.

General comment on programming practice:
I really dislike the use of assembly code mixed in with the C source code.
This is NOT a good practice to follow if you want your program to have any
chance at portability even on the same machine.
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