HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Sunday, 13 Sep 1992 03:51:58 EDT
From: David Martin <32BWQQP@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: sundry

George Mitchell posts:
Is this newsgroup archived somewhere?  Not only did I have the
poor judgement to take a vacation over last weekend, but also I
failed to realize that my company expires articles here after
only FOUR DAYS!

Mine only lasts two days. If it is backed up, how is it accessed?
I always lose tons of stuff.

=========================================================================
Mr rip@sequent.com wrote:

Now, tell me, and I know alot of people out there will have opinions
about this.  Why is it that 'NiceGuys' always seem to have to
finish last?  Is it because basically most 'NiceGuys' are shy and not
noticed?  Do they just not want to intrude on other people?  All this
while the 'Jerks', the loud, obnoxious ones, (gee, that sounds vaguely
familiar....), are getting the attention, and the chicks?

I've heard both sides of this argument many times and basically I
have come to the conclusion that most of the 'NiceGuys' are perpetual
whiners, and unless they can crawl out of there shells, they will
always be last.  Until they feel they want to take charge of thier
lives and get what *they* want, no one is going to hand it to them on
a Silver Platter.

If this is true, and I tend to agree with you, I have to add that
people are not infinitely knowing beings, nor have they (don't know why
I used third person there) had perfect environments to learn behavior
in. I think it's totally possible to be in a "rut" (not meaning in
heat), to know it, and not know how to get out... or even to know how
to get out and not be able to do it for psychological reasons, ie.
security, fear of change, etc.. I believe your analysis is correct,
but I also think it's a life sentence without massive psychological
help. ^^^^


In a short few minutes the Websters pulls up to the *front* of the
ARCBuilding.  Walking through the FireSide room, he nods his head to
his friends, old and new.  Suddenly a pang runs through him as he
passes the vacant chair where his dear Li'lBro LF used to sit,
spinning all those horrible puns, and dirty ditties.

All the old timers quit about the time I join?
I'll floss regularly from now on, no double it...  twice a week.
Buy a second pair of underwear... one without holes.
Trim my toe nails and nose hair.
Use Compound-W so I can French kiss again.
Quit staying home with the dog on Saturday nights.
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From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: ARCtopography
Date: 6 Sep 92 12:38:45 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher

smccoy@dw3g.ess.harris.com (Scott McCoy) writes:
] DreamWeaver is curious:
] |>
] |>Curious, Dream cautiously ambles over to the door that leads to the
] |>ARCafeteria, from whence the sound came.  He opens the door sticks his
] |>head in the room...::
] 
] Editorial aside:
] 
] DreamWeaver poking his head into the ARCafeteria from the
] fireside room raises a question...
] 
] Is there a map to ARCland?  You know, like what rooms there are?
] 
Well - I don't know if there is a topography, per se.

Here's how my memory has it.

One Glade - park-type, As I recall - non-forest, though
it may be ringed in trees - containing one or two vats
of milk chocolate and at least one of bittersweet - left
over from when a.r.c was "born" - and containing the
ghosts of some of the folks who were around at the time,
and some characters who were around at the time.

One Castle - in a forest.  There's an architect and a
designer around somewhere that was working on this.

One other Forest Glade, which contains at least one tree
with branches big enough to seat two people comfortably
(I came back from a few days away and found that Patti 
had posted SteveS and I up there - over a year ago - did
we ever get down, Steve?)

One other VERY large Fireplace, courtesy of the RFA,
which may or may not be situated in the castle - I know
it wasn't at first, since it transferred here from 
alt.romance...

The a.r.c Cafeteria - location unknown - with AMAZING
amounts of sweet, sticky things that appear from nowhere.

And last, but not least, the Spaced Out - piloted by
Blade, Trog, SteveS, and last known to have a drieux
either INside or OUTside of it - I can't remember - that
was quite a while ago also...

] If not, maybe we should compose one...
] 
] Comments?  Questions?  Concerns?
]  
] Good drink recipes? (oops, how'd that get there?)
] 
Heh - that's Blade and BDC's department!  We've got
a bartender around here somewhere, I think - or was
that only in PeeveTown?

] Cheshire Cat		   Official Back Scratcher of the RFA

I HAVE missed things here!  Didn't see we had a Cheshire
Cat to add to our cat list (or didn't remember it - which
amounts to the same thing...).  

CatWoman
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Subject: Re: FOOD FIGHT!!!!
Keywords: DUCK...
Reply-To: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: alt.romance.chat
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:22:04 GMT

In article <92Sep05.071216.28556@acs.ucalgary.ca> panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:
>Oh, boy, you haven't noticed who else is here in ARC and what
>kind of weaponry we have!
>
>Ever encounter a tanker truck of Canadian All-Natural Maple Syrup
>with a triple-braided stainless steel hose that can hit you with
>a stream of this brown goo at over 10,000 psi? Huh? Chocolate
>cannons, huh?
>
>Revving engine, pointing hose at offender and ARCers.....
>
>*FWOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHH* *SPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH* *HISSSSSSSSSSSSS*
>
>Aieee! Scantily-clad playful ARCers dive for cover again, and the
>sidespray manages to coat even the lurkers behind the furniture!

   And lurkers who should be doin' their homework!  Nice goin' there,
   TiggerV!!  Now how am I supposed to type with this brown goo all
   over my keyboard!  I didn't want to procrastinate this long!! 8^(

>Hi Judi! Hi TiggerKathy! Hi Lisa Marie! *cackle*

   Hi TiggerV!

>All in day's work for this Tigger......
>
>8^)

    Judi
    The Official Procrastinatin' Dryad of the RFA
    (geelookatthetimeandIhaven'tevenfinishedthefirstchapter!)

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: coates@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Tony Coates)
Subject: Entitlements?
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 06:03:47 GMT

Recently, our dearest Lis, Good White Witch and soon-to-be former Prez,
asked me what title I had picked for myself, as a new member of the RFA.
However, I couldn't really decide.  My outspoken opinion over a recent 
RFA application led me to write, by way of some self-mocking
	"Official Prude to the RFA",
but this seemed not to find favour with Judi, Judi, Judi Lane, your
favourite Dryad and mine, so I instead took a leaf from something the
ARC-Librarian-in-Training (T. Elizabeth Harvey) wrote, and tried
	"Offical Feminist to the RFA",
though later I realised that, at the very least, I had in no way any
right to proclaim myself as official, so I thought maybe
	"Unofficial Feminist of the RFA",
but, well, the point is that, while I do have rather strong views on the
ways that men should treat women, and on the types of situations and
images that we should avoid portraying in our romantic writings, I'm
sure that my views are at least paralleled by many of the female
members, and more than certainly be quite a number of the male members.

	Well, this leads me to ask myself just what is a good title, one
that carries the spirit of the above without suggesting that I am the
only one who feels that way.  I thought that perhaps something like
	"Knight Defender of the Grail of Feminine Dignity"
might work?

	Any comments?
					*hugs*
							Tony.

[hopeful Knight Defender of the Grail of Feminine Dignity]
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: New Prez of the RFA
Organization: OFSA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:38:35 GMT

jmalone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Malone) sez:

>
>***************************************************************
>Julie Salter (just trying it on for size)
>President, Romantic Fire Association
>Former PR Agent for Blade (guess he's on his own...OH DEAR!)
>***************************************************************
>
Ooooh a new sig! Yeah, scary to think of Blade out there on his
own..no one to watch over him...or ameliorate his lusty tendencies
or...ooh, my skin crawls to think of the havoc he could wreak.

Steve


-- 
Spirituality is what is inside : religion is humankind's vain attempt to
express it outwardly.
From: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Part Two of "Dryads' Dailiness"
Keywords: Nymphette
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:37:04 GMT
Reply-To: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <1992Sep8.150655.2858@octel.com> jpw@octel.com (Jason in the Hood) writes:
>Paul T Taylor offers:
>>Judi Lane attempts to besmerch the Hooded ones reputation:
>>>  I'd love to!  But rip might be allergic turkey feathers and WD-40.
>>>  (I know *you* aren't! 8^) <another sneaky snicker>)
>
>There! See!! Notice, ARC'ers, that she claims to *know* I am not
>allergic to turky feathers and WD-40!  In fact, I _am_ allergic
>to WD-40!  Proof that all these insinuations are, infact, allegations
>with nothing but inuendo and falseHoods to support them!
>  I tell you...  I need a good slander lawyer.  Is there an Offical
>Lawyer for the RFA?  Do we have methods to _deal_ with dryads like
>her, who think they can just up and besmerch any Hooded ones 
>reputation and honor???

   I don't have to take this kind of abuse!!  * I'm a grad student! *
   I pay good money to the California State University system for
   abuse far more obnoxious than this dribble!!
   (And besides, O Hooded One, it's not the WD-40 you're allergic to...
     it's the Mr. Goodwrench work that you do with WD-40 that you are
      allergic to!  Lazy limp quivered ARCher!)


>>Turkey feathers and WD40?  I'm not allergic to either one, but make
>>that lime-green jello and Crisco, and you got yourself a deal!
>
>Hmmm... well, it's obvious that _he's_ not worried about his reputation!

   At least he *has* one not to be worried about!


>>>    Oh.  Are you volunteering yourself for a little demonstration 8^)??
>
>SEE!!  THREATS TOO!!  HELP!!!

	wimp whiner wimp whiner wimp whiner wimp whiner wimp whiner...

	"The ARCher's quite the ladies' man... 
            their bustles all do shiver.
          But, wait!  It's a draft.  And the ARCher's shaft
	     is as loose and limp as his quiver." 


>>Prey tell, do you need the services of a good Executioner?  Hmmmm?
>
>Yes, as a matter of fact, I might... there's this certain DRYAD who
>shall remain namless (she lost it years ago, in a tragic weather storm)
>whom we might need to remove... or mAYbe remove just parts of her...

     If you're wantin' the cellulite and bags under my eyes, you
     can have 'em.  Other than that... forget it.

>
>Jasonzied - whatmeworry?I'msorry,youmusthavethewrongARCher

      We know.

>-- 
>|Official Wandering Archer of the RFA
>|         
>|UUCP  jpw@octel.com                         Who wills, Can.
>|VOICE (408) 321-6509                         Who tries, Does.
>|LOCAL Hey, Jason!                              Who loves, Lives.          o_.
>|Disclaimer:  Not me! I didn't do *THAT!*                                 <|
>|Local Disclaimer:  I'm not here!                   A. McCaffrey           4
From: lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique)
Subject: Re: An Aye for an Aye
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:11:35 GMT

In article <49360008@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse) writes:
>In alt.romance.chat, coates@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Tony Coates) writes:
> >  you guys are the ones in LA.  Anyway, if you had seen the snowwoman that
> >  my friends and I made in Germany last year (first snowperson I ever
> >  made!), you wouldn't want to be relying on *my* artistic talents.
>
>I'm afraid you're missing the most important priority for making a
>snowperson.  It isn't the artistic talents that count, its how you 
>warm up again after making the snowperson.  **SLY SMILE**  
>
>Bill

Tony, take it from another Former Honourary President
of the RFA (Yes, Bill used to be my boss!)....It is
*most definitely*  the warming up after building the 
snowperson.  

Hi Bill!!  Good to see you posting again!  

Lis, The Official Good Romantic Witch
and Honoured Former President
of the Romantic Fire Association

p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: coates@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Tony Coates)
Subject: Re: my RFA application
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Distribution: world               
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:31:03 GMT

In article <kai02571920814213744@depeche.toppoint.de>, kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt) writes:
|> coates@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Tony Coates) writes:
|> > |>                THE LITTLE PEOPLE FROM ARCLAND
|> > |>                ------------------------------
|> > |> [nice application deleted ...]
|> > |> Kai.
|> >
|> > Ausgezeichnet, ganz ausgezeichnet!
|> > Excellent, like really excellent! :-)
|> 
|> Thank you, Tony.
|> 
|> > 		 				Tony.
|> > [Knight Defender of the Grail of Human Dignity]
|> > [I'm not even going to *try* to translate this ...]
|> 
|> Come on, you can do it!!! What about
|> [Ritterlicher Beschuetzer des Grals der menschlichen Weisheit]
|> Hmm, sounds stupid in German, it's better you leave it as it is,
|> it's makes much more sense that way. ;-)
|> 
|> Kai.
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> ----
|> Kai Voigt, Werftstrasse 2, 2300 Kiel 14, Germany, +49 431 7297514
|>                   I'm too sexy for this .sig

Wow, your German is still much better than mine :-) .  If only my German was as good as your
English!
									Tony.
[Knight Defender of the Grail of Human Dignity]
P.S. Let me know if you ever want me to help you translate Los Angelese into Euro-English!
     (you need to see lots of movies and TV to get used to it!)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: Julie Malone <jmalone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: RFA member/title list
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:35:51 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]



Well, I finally found my RFA member/title listing.  Its pretty outdated, so
anyone who has been added since this list was done, please email me at:

	jmalone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu

(neat way to get mail, huh?)

And I will update the list and reproduce it.  Thanks....

----
Lis -- Madame President
Ender -- Her Secretary
Jane, his wife...
<just kidding>
Stephen "I'm such a punny guy" Dennison (wherever HE is) -- VP
'Chelle <me, that is> -- *HIS* Secretary
Jeff Goldman -- Official Lexicographer
Julie -- *HIS* Secretary (plus moonlighting as PR Agent for Blade... how
*does* she manage it?)
Rip & Chris -- Palanquin Bearers for the SexySecretaries
M. LeFlouffe -- Mascot and Donkey Hodey
Paul Norris -- Official Snoopy AND PR Agent for 'Chelle <me again>
Mary E. -- Sexretary to the BeaChat Hosts
Tina Marie -- Official TradeMark
RickI -- Official Roadrunner
Dave Roy -- Masseur to the Prez.
Redneck -- Official Lumberjack
Garrett "Sarek" Fitzgerald -- Official Maaseur to the _rest_ of the RFA
Scott Gier -- Keeper of the Flame
SteveS. -- Official Fireside Sex Advisor
Eric Smith -- Official Translator
Danun -- Official Yogurt Queen
Andi -- RFA Gypsy
Ruthie -- RFA Gardener???
Yoda -- Keeper of the Romantic Side of the Force AND Official Green Light
	 Spotter for the Secretary to the Prez.  (*whew*)

---

***************************************************************
Julie Salter (just trying it on for size)
President, Romantic Fire Association
Former PR Agent for Blade (guess he's on his own...OH DEAR!)
***************************************************************

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Re: Distress Call
Keywords: Suddenly, the moon blows up.
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:12:12 GMT

hwyman@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (The Hwyman) writes:

>I don't know where to begin or what to say.  How about my life sucks  
>to hell?  Yeah, not good news.
>(stuff deleted)
>Two hours ago, I called one of her roommates and confirmed the rumor.   
>It seems she is seeing her old boyfriend from high school.
>I then went for an hour walk around campus.  I just had to get out of  
>that dorm room.  God, I wanted to cry so badly!  Yet, I only had a  
>few tears to shed.  This is the second time I've gone away and had a  
>relationship fall apart.
>Now, I don't know what to feel.  I am upset that I had to learn this  
>from friends.  I don't understand we she couldn't tell me.  I thought  
>we had more than that.  If she felt that moving on would have made  
>her happier, then I feel that she has to the right to explore that  
>option.  But she had no right to leave me hanging like this.

Highwayman, I know where you are coming from.  Four years ago I met a
girl who seemed to be everything I had been looking for.  We spent every
spare minute of our lives together.  We were deeply in love.  We talked
about getting engaged, and the decision was made.  All I had to do was
provide a ring and ask her father's permission...  I had to move 2000km
away for a job.  We phoned each other, we sent letters, cards.  Her
parents even paid for me to fly over for her birthday!  She said it was
the best birthday present she had ever had.

A month later I fly up for a conference and it's like we never knew each
other.  Suddenly she puts this huge distance between us.  She told me
that she thought it would be a good idea if we didn't talk for a while.
"OK," I thought,"She needs some time to sort herself out, fair enough"
But I didn't hear from her.  The next thing I know I am talking to a
friend over the phone who tells me that my girlfriend had said we had
broken up!  I phoned her and asked if it was true.  She said yes!
Excuse me?  What about the things we promised each other?  What about
all the time we spent together?
Nothing.
So I know how painful it can be hearing about things second hand.
And yes, I cried a lot.
Suddenly someone you thought you knew has become someone else.

>It's getting late but I don't think I'll be able to sleep much.  And  
>if I do, I hope I don't remember my dreams.  They won't be pleasant.

It's strange, but I never had nightmares about it.  It was just my
waking hours that were filled with pain :-(

>Well, another nice guy bit the big one.

<brotherly hug>

I think it happens all the time.  Sometimes I wonder if being a nice guy
is all it's cracked up to be.


Rob
Official Journeyman-harper of the RFA

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Geraghty                         | Time, flowing like a river
robg@durian.citr.oz.au               | Time, beckoning me
CITR                                 | APP
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: title for Steve
Organization: OFSA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:07:59 GMT

ybarra@sunset.sedd.trw.com
>
>	You got my vote for Steven's new title.....
>    
>        "Sex Slave to the  NEW 'PREZ'....."


I shoulda known that maryann would unlurk long enough to say
this...*groan*
-- 
Spirituality is what is inside : religion is humankind's vain attempt to
express it outwardly.
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique)
Subject: Re: New Prez of the RFA
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:57:03 GMT

In article <BuAMp5.Hr1@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.200534.27665@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:
>>In article <Bu9pzE.90o@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer) writes:
>>
>>>Keywords: Can I join???????
>>Sure you can!!
>>> I would like to join your club.  I am a hopeless romantic.....
>>                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>That's what you need to be to be in the RFA!!

> WEll, Scotto, is back...and after talk with both Jules and Mary,
>Pres and Secy of RFA, to let you all know, I will be submitting
>my article within the next few days about a romantic story with a 
>fireplace in it...at the latest it will be on the net this upcoming
>weekend....be looking for it...
>
>SCotto,
>Unofficial Cowboy of the RFA, soon-to-be....
>"Kango Kid" is his name, guns were his game.....
>and he shot them all dead...

Hey, Scotto!!  This Good Romantic Witch is glued to the
tube, patiently awaiting your romantic article!  :-)

>kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu
>"Born an Illini,
> Boilermaker by the grace of God"

I just noticed, you're located right here!!  You're
here at Purdue!  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT!!!!   :-)

Lis, The Official Good Romantic Witch
and Honoured Former President
of the Romantic Fire Association

p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver)
Subject: Re: Oops ... Re: Sounds like....
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
 <4SEP199220340126@bestsd.sdsu.edu> <Bu49sz.Kw2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 00:44:05 GMT


> Actually, this laugh is *much* better when heard for the first time
> coming from the Blademan himself...can *really* scare you then!!!


Come on, Blade ... let's hear one or your ARCfamous laughs ... just for
old time sake!

-DreamWeaver
 ("When you close your eyes ... do you dream about me?" - NightRanger)

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: carl@sscl.uwo.ca (Carl Kaufmann)
Subject: Re: FOOD FIGHT
Organization: Soc.Sci.Comp.Lab., U.West.Ont.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:17:36 GMT

Watching Shadowette run toward Rat, CatGuy struggles to recover
from her devestating sneak attack.  He thinks of how long its
going to take to clean up and cheerfully contemplates ways of
getting Shadowette to help.  "I always knew she had an ulterior
motive.  At least she chose my favorite."

His pondering is interrupted by a loud crashing sound as a wall
crumbles before his eyes.  Cheesecake mines go off like fire
crackers as the BST rolls over them, but to no avail.  The air is
filled by a barrage of bananas, nuts, and fudge sauce.  Watching
in amazement, CatGuy notices a huge cherry being launched from the
direction of Rat and Shadowette.

Anxious to save the pride of net.felines everywhere, CatGuy rushes
over to Cheshire Cat and they quickly set up a rapid-fire
berry-cannon.  A stream of strawberries, blueberries, and of
course raspberries courses towards Rip, who hastily retreats in
the face of this unexpectedly heavy counter-attack.

Looking over at Shadowette, CatGuy gets a sinister smile on his
face and his whiskers bend back in anticipation.  "Time for some
hand-to-paw combat."  He pounces and after much struggling
Shadowette and CatGuy are inexorably stuck together in a mass of
delicious goo.
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat