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Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Deutsche Welle in Latin Am.
From: axgolinski@ualr.edu
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:14:57 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

On the 1st of November the German television "Deutsche Welle TV" started it's
transmission to North and South America.
The station now broadcasts for 14 hours via satellite. For viewers in Europe
this is more than double the viewing time, which until now, amounted to six
hours.
In North and South America, those who are intersted and who have their own
satellite antenna, can now, for the first time, find out immediately, what is
going on in Germany and the rest of Europe, on a daily basis. The program
travels in the direction of North and South America via satellite, the
INTELSAT-K satellite and can still be viewed in Europe on the usual frequency
of the EUTELSAT II-F1. INTELSAT-K is a KU-Band satellite, which is not very
common yet among direct broadcasters but will become soon. In order to make
direct broadcasting possible for individuals, the 14-hour program is also sent
via the new SATCOM C-4, a high power satellite, which only requires a
a dish size of between 1 metre and 1.50 metres in the traditional C-Band.
Parts of the program, that is sent in German, English and Spanish, is able to
be viewed via domestic television stations and cable networks. This was already
the case with PBS stations or ME/U with "Sports Report" and other programs. In
the meantime, there is a definite agreement with the MindExtension University
- The Education Network (ME/U). The station is taking over the German and
English Jourmal (Daily News) as well as another three and a half hours of
DW television programs. There are many promising  talks in progress with other
partners in the USA, Canada and Latin America.
Deutsche Welle has also been broadcasting to Africa, Asia and Australia since
the 28th of September 1992 for two hours a day via two INTELSAT satellites, in
order to make German television accessible there, with the help of local
television stations.

A  FREE monthly program guide of Deutsche Welle TV can be recieved by
writing to this address:

Deutsche Welle
Postfach 10 04 44
"W"-5000 Koeln 1

Germany

If you have any questions about the program, or technical questions write
to the same address or call the Washington office of Deutsche Welle:
(202) 393 7427

Andreas Golinski (AXGOLINSKI@ualr.edu)
From: jma@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Listas/Clubes (varios paises)
Date: 30 Dec 92 10:06:32 -0500

In article <92363.001710WBWQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <WBWQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>               LISTAS LATINOAMERICANAS
> 

Costa Rica tiene su propia lista tambien

			IRAZU@UCRVM2.BITNET
        subscripcion:	LISTSERV@UCRVM2.BITNET

Administrador: Luis Blanco  BLANCO@UCRVM2.BITNET

J.M. Arias
Univ. Florida
jma@ifas.gnv.ufl.edu
From: djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu (David Weisberger)
Subject: Re: Christmas and Khanukah
Organization: large
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:04:56 GMT

Ralf Vogelgesang (vogelges@bohr.physics.purdue.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec21.152115.31336@news.th-darmstadt.de> detig@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christine Detig) writes:
: >In article <FN19AON@glasnost.de>, mic@glasnost.de (Michael Czollek) writes:
: >
: >> Das Volk allein, dem das geschah
: >> Das feiert lieber Chanukah.
: >>                   ^^^^^^^^^
: >I know christian and pseudochristian Christmas habits from some experience, 
: >but when and how and why is Chanukah celebrated?
: >
:   I understand its importance to Jewish people is *much* higher inside
: the States than outside.
: 
True.

:   Here's a summary of what I learned about "Hanukkah" from local
: newspapers: ("Local" refers to the Mid-West of the US, here.)
: 
: 	* it's the only important Jewish festival that's NOT mentioned
: 	  in the bible.
: 	* it begins at sundown of Dec, 19th  and lasts for eight days;
: 	  (I'm not sure whether this is because of that day being
: 	  Sunday or because of the number "19" -- any word from someone
: 	  more knowledgable?)
:
The Jewish calendar is lunar, so it's only coincidence that it fell on
December 19th this year.

: 	* the festival is symbolized by the menorah, an eight-candle
: 	  candelabrum, that is lit one candle a day.
: 	  significance of the candles:
: 	  first -- God's command "Let there be light"
: 	  second -- light of	the Torah
: 	  third --	"	justice
: 	  fourth --	"	mercy
: 	  fifth --	"	holiness
: 	  sixth --	"	love
: 	  seventh --	"	patience
: 	  eighth --	"	courage
:
This is a preety free interpretation - I was not aware that each candle
had a particular significance.

:   And another US-American peculiarity -- Dec. 26th is called "the day after
: Christmas."
: 
We celebrate Christmas for a month beforehand - why should we need a
second day?

Glad to see the interest.

-David

--
Davebo                    "Don't believe I'm taken in by stories I have heard.
                           I just read the Daily News and swear by every word."
djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu
From: alti@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Thorsten Altenkirch)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: ASYLBEWERBER TATSACHEN
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:22:21 GMT
	<1992Dec18.150649.25464@tom.rz.uni-passau.de>
	<JDY9MYT@netmbx.netmbx.de> <38Ras*4k2@mania.RoBIN.de>
	<45844@unlisys.in-berlin.de> <NLqcs*Ll2@mania.RoBIN.de>
	<45850@unlisys.in-berlin.de> <pp2ds*Dm2@man
Organization: LFCS, Edinburgh

In article <pp2ds*Dm2@mania.RoBIN.de> lkv@mania.RoBIN.de (Lutz Vieweg) writes:

   Ich weiss ja, dass ich ein Arschloch bin. Aber ich heuchle
   wenigstens nicht, mich dem unterzuordnen, was Du "feine Moral"
   nennst.

Na, das ist ja wenigstens eine Einsicht...

Ich habe keinen Grund Dich "Arschloch" zu nennen, aber ich w"urde
Deine Ansichten als 'sp"atpubert"ar' bezeichnen. Sich als Mensch
angemessen anderen Menschen gegen"uber zu benehmen ist Teil des
Mensch-seins oder auch des Erwachsenwerdens, Moral ist nicht nur
schwarz oder wei\3 und wer Geld mit dem Leiden anderer Menschen
verdient handelt unmoralisch und verliert eine gewisse Qualit"at,
vielleicht die F"ahigkeit sich und andere aufrichtig zu lieben. Das
wird in vielen Religionen widergespiegelt, zum Beispiel in der
christlichen, aber man braucht nicht an einen Gott oder "ahnliches
Brimborium zu glauben, um diese elementare Wahrheit zu verstehen. 

Ich vermute, da\3 Du intuitiv ziemlich gut wei\3t, was Moral ist, aber
da\3 Du es genie\3t, Dein Intellekt f"ur haarspalterische Argumente zu
gebrauchen. Du tust Dir keinen Gefallen damit - werd' besser erwachsen.

Hast Du eigentlich eine Freundin? Falls nicht, vielleicht ist das ja
das Problem...

--

 Thorsten Altenkirch         	And there's a hand, my trusty fiere,
 Laboratory for Foundations  	   And gie's a hand o' thine,
 of Computer Science 	      	And we'll tak a right guid-willie waught
 University of Edinburgh     	   For auld lang syne!
From: jost@jake.prz.tu-berlin.de (Jost)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: German troops to Somalia??? Turkish troops to Germany
Date: 23 Dec 92 11:41:06 GMT
Organization: TU-Berlin TUBKOM, Germany

In article <BzoDDq.JyF@nic.umass.edu> mrunkel@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Marc A. Runkel) writes:
>>>> Our gouvernment wants to send 1500 troops to Somalia. They want to send
>>>> not only transport, medical and technical units but also some infantry
>>>> to protect them.
>>>> 
>>>I'd like to see Turkey sending some of its troops into Germany to protect
>>>its citizens, as your police seem to be incapable of doing so.  Would that
>>>be okay with you?
>>
>>Bravo!  *clap, clap*
>>
yes, i have to aggree with lawrence here (oops, did I say that?)
>>
>Oh please!  Where is the connection?  Should Africa send troops to the US
>to protect the African-Americans living in this country?  Should Korea?
>
if germany sends troups to somalia, why shouldnt africa send forces 
to south central LA, since the blacks there are not protected by the
government there (rather endangered)
who gives germany the right to do, what they would never allow
anybody else to do in their own country (same goes for france,
GB, the US etc.)
on the other hand the need for a world police has been obvious
since the end of the cold war. the two block leaders took this role
in each of their hemispheres, (without legitimation), but since
just the US are left strong enough to fulfill this role, (and 
their allies) noone is left to question the legitimity of these 
actions. 
every nation has a police, why not the community of nations, 
but a STRONG control organ has to be built first. without this, 
i think, german troups should NOT go to somalia.

merry X-mas
seeya in Jan.

jost

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Deutsche Welle
From: axgolinski@ualr.edu
Date: 1 Jan 93 18:40:01 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

Deutsche Welle

Xref: sparky soc.culture.german:9479 soc.roots:8523
From: eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.roots
Subject: Johannes Petrus
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:55:49 GMT
Reply-To: eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41

In doing some family research in some Catholic church records, I am
faced with the prospect of reading lots of names in Latin.  My
question is, should I translate them into the vernacular?  If so, how?
In particular, should I write
     Johannes Petrus
     Johannes Peter
  or Johann Peter
?
=Jim

--
=Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
From: lkv@mania.RoBIN.de (Lutz Vieweg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: ASYLBEWERBER TATSACHEN
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 16:00:52 GMT
 <8w1as*ej2@mania.RoBIN.de> <FS4982@netmbx.netmbx.de>
Organization: The Funny Farm
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 alpha rel3

In article <FS4982@netmbx.netmbx.de>, Erhard Sanio writes:

> In article <8w1as*ej2@mania.RoBIN.de> lkv@mania.RoBIN.de (Lutz Vieweg) writes:
> 
> >I strongly disagree with such an opinion: Asylum seekers are assumed
> >to behave like _guests_, which are visiting our land (and living
> >from our money) as long as they are politically persecuted in their
> >native country.
> 
> >I don't believe anyone violating the law that he's only seeking protection
> >from political persectuion - IMHO such people have definitly forfeited
> >their right to stay here.
> 
> One should take in account that the young fool writing the crap above never
> paid one cent of taxes

One should take in account that the not-so-young fool writing the crap
above draws his irrefutable conclusions from sources we mortal do not know -
unluckily, theese sources do not speak "the truth" necessarily.
Erhard, you are right, as always, I never paid one cent of taxes,
because german revenue-offices prefer to get their money in german
currency, "Deutsche Mark", you know?

> and proudly announced in other articles that he will
> not care for the future of other people - be it in this country or the whole
> world - rather for his own welfare and advantage.

Ooh, please, Erhard, tell me that not all of your colleagues in the Arts
are as narrow minded as you when trying to interpret others attitudes...
I know you don't like me, and you know I don't like you... but would you
be so kind to either speak against my opinions under the right topic
and in the correct context, or just mail me your flames and I'll
answer them when I'm in the mood to do so. We definitely do not need
to throw our dirt onto each other that way - this newsgroup has enough
with one Laurence Godfrey.

> Not that I am favouring censorship - only a person with such an amount of
> ignorance exposed should get withdrawn the A-level and sent back to secondary
> school, IMHO.

  [.... and far more crap deleted.... ]

> ... If Vieweg wouldn`t have given a big lot of examples in 
> this forum proving that he is a mostly harmless idiot I would call an
> attitude which claims superhuman behaviour from foreigners living under
> damn hard circumstances here plain fascism.

"Fascism" is your favourite word, isn't it? To me it has become
a phrase as meaningless as "Asylschwindel" (REP), "Steuerluege" (SPD),
"Aufschwung" (CDU) oder "Klassenkampf"... 


cu, Lutz Vieweg

--
  "Herr von Weizsaecker ist weder Fisch noch Fleisch, er ist politisch
   sozusagen ein Klops." (Helmut Schmidt im Januar 1979)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: henning@messy.toppoint.de (H Plagemann)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: German troops to Somalia??? Turkish troops to Germany
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 10:44:33 GMT
Organization: Nice Day!

In article <1992Dec21.050104.1@vxdesy.desy.de> godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de wrote:
>In article <1992Dec18.070230.6674@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>, Onno.Meyer@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Onno Meyer) writes:
>> Our gouvernment wants to send 1500 troops to Somalia. They want to send
>> not only transport, medical and technical units but also some infantry
>> to protect them.
>> 
>I'd like to see Turkey sending some of its troops into Germany to protect
>its citizens, as your police seem to be incapable of doing so.  Would that
>be okay with you ?

The Turkish troops kill the kurdish people using german weapons (NATO-member).
They called the Germans 'Nazis' because we stopped sending more weapons for
the murder of helpless people (doesn't make any sense, does it ?).

>Laurence
Henning
--
    Henning Plagemann                                   Kiel, W.Germany
    
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: mrbulli@btoy1.rochester.NY.US (Mr. Bulli (private account))
Subject: Re: German troops to Somalia??? Turkish troops to Germany
Reply-To: mrbulli@btoy1.rochester.NY.US
Organization: Private UUCP site
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:08:33 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de wrote:
: In article <1992Dec18.070230.6674@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>, Onno.Meyer@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Onno Meyer) writes:
: > Our gouvernment wants to send 1500 troops to Somalia. They want to send
: > not only transport, medical and technical units but also some infantry
: > to protect them.
: > 
: I'd like to see Turkey sending some of its troops into Germany to protect
: its citizens, as your police seem to be incapable of doing so.  Would that
: be okay with you?

: Laurence

FLAME ON !!!
Didn't they do that in Cyprus a decade (or so) ago? And what about sending 
Serb troops (or Bosnian)? And what sending some ...
FLAME OFF !!!
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From: gromyko@sputnik.rhein-main.de (Michael Grom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Private Krankenversicherung?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 2 Jan 93 02:40:04 MED
Organization: private Amiga Site

In article <1hu9hjINNp98@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> hi61@mb70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Deck) writes:
> In article <42933@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> flegel@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Willy Flegel) writes:
[..]

Hallo Thomas,

auch fuer mich stellt sich jetzt die Frage ob PKV ja oder nein. Ich verbringe
geradezu schlaflose Naechte deswegen. Nicht weil ich bereits einen Antrag
gestellt habe, nein, den kann ich innerhalb von 10 Tagen widerrufen.
Die Vertreter userer BKK und der DAK (ich bin momentan DAK Mitglied) haben
mir *dringlichst* abgeraten. Der Agent von der PKV lachte und sagte mir,
dass ich ja schliesslich das beste Mitglied fuer die GKV sei:
Jung, maennlich, alleinstehend und ueber der Beitragsbemessungsgrenze.

Der Typ von der PKV ist von der DeBeKa, kennt einer den Laden? Alle
PKV-Nachteile wurden von dem Agenten abgewiesen: Die DeBeKa sei ein
Versicherungsverein auf Gegenseitigkeit, gegruendet 1905 von rheinischen
Beamten und ohne Gewinnstreben. Seit 1969 gebe es nur _einen_ PKV
Tarif und nicht die wie bei den anderen PKVs ueblichen Tarife, die
nach geraumer Zeit "geschlossen" werden und dann "vergreisen". Ausserdem
wueden 2/3 der Beitraege in die Altersrueckstellung fliessen. Ein Anspruch
auf "bezahlbare Beitraege im Alter" seien in der Satzung des Vereins
verankert. Ausserdem haette die DeBeKa auf ihr ordentliches Kuendigungsrecht
verzichtet. ber die DAK ist mir dann darauf eine Broschuere *gegen* die
PKV zugesandt worden, in denen wahre Horroszenarien von der PKV gemalt werden,
auf jeder Seite ein " ..ein Zurueck in die GKV gibt es grundsaetzlich nicht!".
Der ermittelte Tarif: 350 Mark fuer AG 29 Jahre, 120 DM Lohnfortzahlung und
120 DM Krankenhaus-TG und 90% ambulant/100% stationaer scheinen i.O.
Ich bin momentan total verunsichert. Man weiss halt net was kommt. Das
mit der Praemie bei Arbeitslosigkeit spricht fuer die GKV, auch vielleicht
Frau und 2 Kinder. Andererseits habe ich jetzt das Geruecht vernommen, dass
die GKV z.B. eine Krankenhaus-SB von um die 70 DM pro Tag einfuehren will.


Ziemlich ratlos,

	Michael

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From: nannestad_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Looking for German equivalent of The Economist or Business Week
Date: 24 Dec 1992 10:24:57 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: nannestad_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

I didn't see the original post but ...
to others' suggestions of Spiegel and Handelsblatt could I add "Capital"?

Best Wishes
Anton
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: liebchen%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Armin Liebchen)
Subject: Modems in Germany
Date: 26 Dec 92 16:21:32 MST
Organization: University of Utah/Computer-Science

Does anyone know how to hook up US-modems in Germany (i.e. which wire
goes to which, and if any impedance matching is necessary) ?

Armin.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: kris@black.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp)
Subject: Re: Advice Sought on Living & Working in Germany
X-Excuse: X-Copyright wegen Emma, Suedwestpresse und /C'T/DISKUSSIONEN.
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:05:00 GMT
X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1992 Kristian Koehntopp -- All rights reserved.
		 Reproduktion, auch auszugsweise, ausserhalb elektronischer,
		 nichtkommerzieller Datennetze nur mit ausdruecklichem,
		 schriftlichem Einverstaendnis des Autors.

In <1992Dec21.201321@axion.bt.co.uk> dfreer@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Freer) writes:
>In the office is German mostly the spoken language in the
>computer industry?

Most people (but by far not all) in the german computer
industry are able to understand and speak english. The more
technical the job, the better the english. Joe average user
does certainly not speak english and has problems to read an
english manual or to understand english termini in a german
language handbuch.

The default language in the office is deutsch, definitely.

>Any advice on getting jobs would obviously be very useful. E.g Use of
>agencies v. direct applications, good agencies , 
>source of jobs, Is there a German
>equivalent of the English publication Computer Weekly where computer jobs
>are advertised? Job prospects. 

Markt&Technik Magazin aus dem gleichnamigen Verlag.
Computerwoche, auch Markt&Technik Verlag.

Kristian
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"Convection Machine is a trademark of Thoughtless Machines, Inc., a joint-
 venture of Hot-Air Associates and Air Heads International using vaporware
 from the Neural Network Corporation." -- RFC1217
From: sam@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Samuel B Tantuico)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Amerikaner sucht Arbeit in Deutschland!
Date: 24 Dec 92 19:33:09 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hallo, Ich bin der Dennis    aus Los Angeles, aber im Moment beuche ich  
meine Familie in New Jersey. Ich  habe schon ein Diplom in Germanistik 
aus Northridge,Kaliforien. Ich habe vor nach Deutschland zu fliegen,
arbeiten und leben. Kann jemand mir helfen. Uebrigens benutze ich mein
Bruder Sams Computer und modem. Heir lautet mein Anrede: Dennis Tantuico
7348 Corbin Ave #110, Reseda, Ca 91335-3413 U.S.A. Telefonnummer:
1-818-718-7547.......Bitte schreiben Sie mich oder beantworten Sie mich
durch diesen Computer. Heute ist es 24.12.92. Ich fliege am Sonntag am
27. Dezember nach Los Angeles zurueck. Ich spiele auch akustische Gitarre
und versuche Lieder auf deutsch zu komponieren. Ich hoere gern Peter
Maffay und Udo Lindenberg. Ich suche jeden Job. Ich moechte meine deutsche
Kenntnis zu verbessern und mehr ueber die Kultur und Umgangsprache besser
verstehen. Was noch kann ich sagen. Leider in LA habe ich keinen Computer
Also, denn warte ich auf Antwortung von jemandem. 




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From: detig@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christine Detig)
Subject: Re: German poetry
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:31:24 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <21DEC199212475506@zeus.tamu.edu>, ltg3878@zeus.tamu.edu (GOSS, LEWIS TAYLOR) writes:
> 
>      Schwarze Milch der Fruehe wir trinken sie abends
>      wir trinken sie mittags und morgens wir trinken sie nachts
>      wir trinken und trinken
>      wir schaufeln ein Grab in den Lueften da liegt man nicht eng 
>      ...
> 
> What exactly does he mean by 'Black Milk?'  Obviously, Milk is wholesome,
> so one might suppose that Black Milk is somehow the antithesis of Milk,
> perhaps something good distorted to become something bad.  On the other hand,
> 'Schwarze Milch' may make reference to some German colloquial saying, perhaps
> a German Jewish phrase.
> 

No, at least not as far as I know. It is a pictural description of the
holocaust and the NS regime in general. You may interpret the detailed
meaning as you feel it to be right (as it should be with good poetry). 

I personally see in it the never-ending river of darkness that
filled the whole life, was ever-present, breath-taking, forcing a
rythm of endless repetition that could be stopped by murder at any
time. 

Christine

     ************************************************************
        Christine Detig (detig@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de)
                              Germany
                                 *
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: C96@vm.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Alexander EICHENER)
Subject: Re: German crude oil import in WW II
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 19:42:21 CET

In article <1992Dec20.211502.25875@polaris.utu.fi>
Olli-Jukka Paloneva <opaloneva@abo.fi> writes:
 
>Does anybody know where did Germany import crude
>oil during the WW2? I think that Caucasus and
>occupied territories could not represent very
>substantial proportion of deliveries needed
>for raising the war.
 
a) Romania (especially the oilfields around Ploesti).
b) No, they indeed couldn't. That's one of the reasons
   why we lost the war. |  :-) for the humour-impaired|
 
Alexander <c96@vm.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>