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From: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Subject: Re: Author arrested?
Reply-To: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:41:29 GMT

In article <61827@mimsy.umd.edu> kimy@cs.umd.edu (Yong-Mi Kim) writes:
>This morning I caught a bit of the Korean broadcast (it's on channel 56,
>WNVC, very fuzzy from where I live), and they mentioned something about
>authors protesting the arrest of author Ma Kwang-Soo and his publisher.
>When did this happen, and why?

	I recently heard of this news from a friend of mine in Korea.
The person mentioned about this news by first stating that watching
news these days in Korea is much more humorous and comical than
watching those ko-me-dee shows.  
	Mr. Ma, a professor ( an assistant prof maybe) at Yonsei
University was arrested because the goverment thought that his
published works, which are always bestsellers, were contributing or a
significant part of the cause of increase in crime rate of
chung-so-nyun. Many professors in Korea are signing a petition form to
have him released even though many of them do not like Mr. Ma's
radical and explicit use of sexuality in his books. The person did not
mention any other details.
	This is pretty funny, although I dislike what has happened.


	Gag-Lae Kurtis Kim
	gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
	THE SEEKER OF TRUTH
From: kkim@loanshark.cs.indiana.edu (kwansik kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Author arrested?
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:16:03 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <9323@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim) writes:
>jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
>> kimy@cs.umd.edu (Yong-Mi Kim) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>This morning I caught a bit of the Korean broadcast (it's on channel 56,
>>>WNVC, very fuzzy from where I live), and they mentioned something about
>>>authors protesting the arrest of author Ma Kwang-Soo and his publisher.
>>>When did this happen, and why?
>>
>>	Isn't he the so-called Dr. Pervert?  Or am I confusing him with
>>someone else?  Why did he get arrested?  Um...too much sex?  :) (only a 
>>half smiley actually).
>>
>
>While I'll never pay any money to buy Ma Kwangsoo's books, his
>views towards sex seemed to not be that revolutionary or even original. 
>I read some short articles he wrote in some trashy 'weekly news' during
>my former life as a bangwi. Since then, I have forgotten totally what
>he said but I remember thinking he is way too overrated and gets
>publicity only because he is a professor(or was one).
>

 Professor's going pervert has some political,socialogical meaning,I guess.
 It reflects the psychology of the current young generation. 
 It is not easy to comment on what he writes about sex but I have a feeling
 in my mind(deep down there) that he is OK somehow.
 If everybody is digusted by him, I become one of few perverted.
 Even mathmatical proof is a social process. 

>Anyway, from what I hear, he was arrested for printing a book which
>did not pass the censors. Authors seem to be siding with him because
>they are fed up with their freedom of speech being routinely violated. 
>
>-Han

 I still don't understand how an author can be arrested for "printing"
 a illegal book. An author is one who writes. I'll say nothing but
 feel sad if he is arrested for "writing" something.

 Kwansik
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.china
From: <KONDARED@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject: ROOMMATE WANTED IN PURDUE (JAN-93 to AUG-93)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:14:49 GMT

I'am looking for someone to share a two-bedroom apartment from Jan-Aug 93
The apt. is very close to campus. If you know someone who is coming to
Purdue this spring, give him my address and give me his address. Thanks
a lot for any help.

 Highlights of the room:

   *  OWN ROOM.

   *  'SPOTLESSLY CLEAN' APARTMENT.

   *  CLOSE TO CAMPUS (1mt + or - 30 secs walk to every building that
                       matters in Purdue)

   *  ROOMMATE who has a "HANDS-OFF policy" towards roommates and a
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                  ==>  very easy to get along with.

   *  RENT  :  $227.5 plus half of total utilities (expected $31)
               (Dont be put off by the rent. Rents are like that here)

   *  NATIONALITY :  INDIAN

 -thanks,
 -Sashi
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From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: My dear chungkookchang...
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:49:57 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1411@tdat.teradata.COM> syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com writes:
> ...
> I don't mean to brag about it but, Man!, you guys should move to
> LA, the heaven of Korean food in America!
> 
> That is, if you don't care about umemployment, earthquake, freeway traffic,
> gang violence, pollusion, ...... :-<

Why settle for LA when I can get the authentic food in Korea without
such worries as you have carefully listed.  Granted, the cost of meals
in Seoul are sky rocketing (a bowl of rice costs 1000 won even at a
really dinky boonshikchum), but what does such money matter when you
can enjoy and breath the aroma of chungkookchang in a panic-free
atmosphere?

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: y0k0916@zeus.tamu.edu (KWON, YONGHOON)
Subject: Test
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 04:10:00 GMT
From: kimjimin@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Why D.J. for President ?
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:57:20 GMT
Distribution: usa,world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Nov1.185741.24869@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, umin@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Un-Sig Min) writes:
> In article <1992Oct30.133157.20529@udel.edu> shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin) writes:
> 
>>For what I read around, isn't it reflexion of Korean politics where 
>>political parties are gathered around charisma and personality of 
>>its leaders rather than ideological platforms (which is to say that 
>>democracy takes more than some elections to be called a democracy,
>>again, for what I read)?
>>
>  
> Korean political parties are dependent on leaders.
> 
> Min-Jeong dang (democratic justice party) :doo-han Jeon (former president)
> Min-Ju Gong-Wha dang (demo* republic* party) :jong phil Kim
> Shin-Han Min-Ju dang (New korea demo* party) :dae-joong & young-sam Kim
> Min-Ja dang (demo* free* party) : tae-woo Rho & y-s Kim
> etc.
> 
> I don't mind any bad party which can last 50 years.
> I envy party system in US and England. 
> We will see a lot of new parties after election.
> Hyundae dang,
> Daewoo dang,
> Samseung dang, 
> Korea dang (bakery store)..... etc.  :-)
> 
> un-sig.
>
	You've got to understand that Korean democracy is extremely 
young.  It can be paralleled to a new born baby or actually a fetus.  
It has just sprouted.  Most of our political leaders had the 
experience of living under the Japanese colonial period.  In fact, it 
was the Japanese who brought the idea of tyranny and totalitarianism 
to our country.  Therefore, we all have to be very patient about our 
newfound democracy.  It will take time.  America and England had 
democracy for a very long time.  Do you think that there democracy was 
just as good as it is today?  I dont think so; it is like evolution

JJ
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: kim@xanth.msfc.nasa.gov (Ok-Hyeon Kim - ES55)
Subject: Let me know...
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date:  6 Nov 92 07:25:24 GMT

American election was over. Could you anybody post about korean election?
Is there a BBS  about this topic or korean news\@} in korea?
I only know kids and ara. But nothing there.

Thanks      Ok-Hyeon Kimf
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: bkpark@camars.kaist.ac.kr (Bae-kyong Park)
Subject: test
Organization: CS Dept., KAIST.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 10:23:40 GMT

just test!

it's Nov  8 19:29:18 KST 1992 now.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: byun@concerto.kaist.ac.kr (Byun Sung-Hyuk)
Subject: Re: hanterm, Hangul LaTex
Keywords: hanterm
Organization: KAIST in Seoul Korea
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:47:12 GMT


Famous anon. ftp site in Korea :

   cair.kaist.ac.kr         143.248.11.170
           X11R5, all hangul program( Hanterm, Hlatex, hscreen, ...)

   garam.kreonet.re.kr      134.75.30.11

   hwarang.postech.ac.kr    141.223.1.1
From: hjkim@sol.UVic.CA (Hyong-Joong Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Hangul Nal (Korean Alphabet Day)
Keywords: Oct 9th
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:26:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: sol.1992Nov13.032644.7199
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA


             I've heard from a friend in Germany that Hangul Day is deleted 
from the National holiday list last year, is it correct?   Moreover, Jim
McCauley at the U. of Chicago celebrates Hangul Day every year with Japanese,
Chinese, and Korean food, of course with a lot of friends.  The two facts
show us a little interesting picture.  A worldly noted linguist commemorates
it with Asian touches, while the authorities in Korea ignores the invention
of modern alphabet (completed in 1443, declared in 1446) which is regarded 
as the best alphabet system among linguists in world community.   
              Personally, I'm more interested in what
Jim McCauley is doing than what Bruce Cummings is doing (after 2 years'
stay in Korea, he became an expert in Korean studies --- if you stay in 
the us for 2 years, then you'll be an important source man for American
studies.  -:<  ).  
If some people suggest that Hangul Day be internation linguistics day, will 
you support them?   I like to hear some comments from Chicago as well as
from Seoul.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: kim@cerise.irit.fr (Hae-Kwang KIM)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Premier Bounjour a Tous en FRANCE
Keywords: I am a student majoring in computer science in FRANCE,
	and this is the first experience with computer communication.
Date: 7 Nov 92 15:17:36 GMT
Organization: IRIT-UPS, Toulouse, France


	If anyone knows the people that I will write down below,
	please send my regards to them.

	Everybody is welcome to post to me.
	
	( Director Kwon seunghan, Manager Lee heungsung, Manager Baek gyungho
	Kim kihong, Jung Jinkyung, Lee heesoo,
	and all the people who I have known at SAMSUNG 
	and all my friends
	at the High school SOODO electric technique and HANYANG university.)

	From Toulouse ,FRANCE

	AU REVOIR! (see you again).
	

	




	

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: gior@eecg.toronto.edu (GIOR Kevin Kyu-Sik)
Subject: Serving in the army - What do think?
Summary: Do you agree or not?
Keywords: army
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:02:31 GMT

Every male from Korea ( 1st generation & VISA student ) knows that he has to
serve in the army for a lengthy period. Two cases have occured to me and I want
to hear your opinion. Thanks you.

The first case is a friend of mine, who is in electrical engineering, major in
VLSI design (VLSI - Very Large Circuit Integration) has to serve in the army
starting this December. He married a year ago and has a week old boy. He made
every petition to delay the date, but unsuccessful. He left Canada two days ago.

The other case is that my friend's friend, who attends community college, had togo to the army last year, that he was supposed to serve for two and a half year,but rumor told me that his father used bribery and the son was exempted.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: nhl@cl.cam.ac.uk (Narm Hee Lee)
Subject: hello
Keywords: test
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:31:50 GMT

  
   Hello, everyone in Korean World,

   This is a test message. You need to give me another chance.

   NHLee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: claypool@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok H. Lee)
Subject: Re: President Park Jung Hee
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:14:09 GMT


hmoon@zeus.calpoly.edu (Hyung Min Moon) writes:
: Newsgroups: Soc.culture.korean
: Subject: President Park Jung Hee
: Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
: 
:      When I went to Korea during this summer, I got the first vol. of the
: unauthorized President Park's biography.  It deals with the life of President
: Park from his birth upto 1960.  I believe there are three more volumns of his
: biography coming up.  At least, that's what I heard.  Can any of you tell me
: where I could get latter volumns in the States?  Also, what do you think about
: the great work(?) President Park has done for Korea?  I'm sure there are a lot
: of mixed emotions about President Park.  In the book, the author is somewhat
: ambiguous as to whether he was a good president or not.  What do you think?
: 
:      -hmoon
: p.s. I know the title of the book in Korean, but I can't quite translate into
:      English.

I think he sucks cock. He was one of the worst dictators in the
twentieth century.  What can you expect of someone who graduated from
the Japanese military academy?  Big deal, he started the sae-maoul
undong, but what it basically consisted of was getting rid of
mud huts and replacing them with corrugated steel houses....big
improvements. If I was to meet him in person, I would torture in
the worst way possible, like he did to his opponents, and make hime
die a horrible death.  A bullet while drinking a glass of Chivas was
too good for the likes of him.

HL
From: hmoon@zeus.calpoly.edu (Hyung Min Moon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: President Park Jung Hee
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:32:20 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Newsgroups: Soc.culture.korean
Subject: President Park Jung Hee
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

     When I went to Korea during this summer, I got the first vol. of the
unauthorized President Park's biography.  It deals with the life of President
Park from his birth upto 1960.  I believe there are three more volumns of his
biography coming up.  At least, that's what I heard.  Can any of you tell me
where I could get latter volumns in the States?  Also, what do you think about
the great work(?) President Park has done for Korea?  I'm sure there are a lot
of mixed emotions about President Park.  In the book, the author is somewhat
ambiguous as to whether he was a good president or not.  What do you think?

     -hmoon
p.s. I know the title of the book in Korean, but I can't quite translate into
     English.
From: shin-jungshik@yale.edu (Jungshik Shin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: President Park Jung Hee
Date: 9 Nov 1992 02:56:01 -0500
Organization: Yale University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <1992Nov7.225314.20516@news.yale.edu> lim@rani.chem.yale.edu (Dongchul Lim) writes:
>There are many dark sides as well as bright sides about Park.
>The brightest side would be the fact that he founded a today's
>Korean economy. Also he reinforced national defense by establishing
>reserved forces and modernizing korean military.
>However no matter how good things he did to economy and defense,
>one should also condiser what he did to democracy and human rights.

   I am wholeheartedly with you except following point. 

 Even economic development made during his dictatorship cannot be fully credited
to him considering the 2nd republic had almost similar plan for economic
development and was about to launch its plan when it was overthrown by
Park's military coup.  Evaluating his achivement in economics, one has to
think about what would have happened to Korean economy without his coup. 
In 60's and 70's when world economy generally prospered(of course, there
were two oil shocks and kind of monetary crise in early 70's ),
 it was quite easy to accomplish what it is said to have been very 
difficult to achieve without his 'leadership'. With any more democratic
government than Park's  in that period, Korea would have roughly the same
economy as what it has now, probablelly without regional discrepancy in level
of  economic development and thus with less regional confilct.

>
>
>The remnants of Park's regime have been propagandizing Park was
>a better ruler compared to other ones. They emphasize only Park's
>bright side, i.e., establishment of modern economy. However don't
>be fooled by such a propaganda. Don't try to compare him to Chun
>and Rho. It is ridiculous to judge one's accomplishment as a
>president by comparing him with such murderers. After many decades
>have passed, the history will tell you Park was a good president
>or an evil one.
>
>-Dongchul Lim
From: kim_sh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Sung Hyun Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: transmission of currency
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:29:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: jhunix.1992Nov12.172911.17910
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <BxKor1.JnC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wyg9633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Wooed Sun) writes:
>
>Is Mr. Jung saying the same thing?   Btw, doesn't one need Ji-jeong-beon-ho?
>OK, I'd better explain my situation and ask for help.   This funny friend
>of mine borrowed about $500 from me when I was in Korea several years ago.
>Now, he says that he will pay back what he owes (Can I trust him this time?
>That's another question).   Can he simply go to a bank, and send $500- without
>all those documents?   Does he have to send to my bank account?
>

If it is simple one-time trasfer, I think the matter is pretty easy. Maybe
your friend can send a traveller's cheque or international money order.
Sending to your bank account will be safer.

>Thanks.
>-- 
>email to : w-yang@uiuc.edu (wyg9633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)


-- 
Sung Hyun Kim      kim_sh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ; kim_sh@jhuvms.hcx.jhu.edu

 A self-countering N-tuple is called an equilibrium point
 John Nash, Proceedings of National Academy of Science (1950)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.korean:5096 soc.culture.japan:10117
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: sea of korea etc
Date: 9 Nov 92 04:59:59 GMT
Organization: Alchemy International

In article <1992Nov8.230724.29826@news.duc.auburn.edu> slee@eng.auburn.edu writes:
>Have heard about Takesima?
>It is the the name of island we call "Dok-Do"
>I saw Takesima on the map issued by British map Co. instead of Dok-Do
>American map said it has been claimed by both Korea & Japan.
>What about Mt. Baek-doo?
>I heard that half of it already was given to China by North regime.
>I'm not sure it is true or not. but if it is not true how can it be heard?
>What about "Gan-do", it was given to China by Japan.
>But after World war II, it wasn't returned to us eventhough Japan surrended.
>Look at what Japan is doing!!!
>They ask Russia to return their islands.
>We should watch what Japan is trying to do carefully!!!
>Let's see POK. and their increasing defense budgets eventhough almost countries
>decrease their defense budget.

	Excuse me?  You want to increase our defense budget?  When there
are a lot of better things to spend our money on, you want to increase
our defense budget because you think Japan wants to take Dok-do forcefully?
That is ridiculuous.  Mt. Baek-doo, well, yes, it's true, NK did give
half of it to China, and that's how people from SK can visit Mt. Baek-doo,
you go to China, then climb the mountain from the Chinese side but not
cross over to NK.  It is probably a good idea to pursue the return of the
mountain once we are unified, although the procedure may be long and
protracted.  As far as Gan-do is concerned, ouch.  That's a huge piece
of real estate and I seriously doubt China would like to hand it over
to Korea when Korea really never had a de-jure or even de-facto jurisdiction
over it.  >

>We should ask China to return Gan-Do & part of Baek-doo they took when we resumed
>diplomatic relation and President visited there.
>
>There are many thins we need to think and do.

	Think first and act later.  You don't want to increase our defense
budget just because some fear of Japan taking over Dok-do forcefully.  Can
you say, "World War I"?  I know you can.

>I am happy many our fellows have much interests about our country.
>
>S. Lee


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jiajie Zhang)
Subject: Volunteers Needed for a Psychological Experiment on Reasoning
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:31:07 GMT



We are currently conducting an experiment to study how people solve
very simple problems.  We ask for volunteers to participate in this
experiment.  It only takes about 2 to 3 minutes.  Plus, it is fun and
enjoyable. 

To do the task, simply type:

telnet canyon.psy.ohio-state.edu
Login: psyexp
(No password is needed.)

Then enter your terminal type, such as vt100, sun, xterm, and so on.

Everything is fully automatic and self-explained.

If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or send me
an email.

Thank you for your help.

-----
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Assistant Professor		(614)-885-7995 (home)
Department of Psychology	jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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