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From: s8923098@macnab.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Josef WIDJAJA)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Xlib - C Language X Interface, where?
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:22:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:04:08 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep11.010408.17625@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <18n56rINN2df@fbi-news.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE> klute@heike.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute) writes:
|
|Two quotes from "Xlib - C Language X Interface, MIT X Consortium Standard,
|X Version 11, Release 5" should answer your questions:

Can anyone tell me where I can get this by anon. ftp? I read somwhere
that this should be available in the standard X release from MIT. 
But my local site does not keep this document. My Sys. Admin. could not
help either. I only want this doc, and I don't want to waste bandwith
by ftping the whole X distribution tar file and then extract just one
file from it. Can someone also tell me if a poscript version is available?

I am sorry if this is a FAQ, I haven't seen a FAQ in this newsgroup
yet.

  

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From: drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas Rand)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GIF library
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:02:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Open Software Foundation

Date: 9 Sep 92 10:58:33
Message-Id: <DRAND.92Sep9105833@spinner.osf.org>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Sep8.142541@fdr.jsc.nasa.gov> shirley@fdr.jsc.nasa.gov (Bill Shirley [CSC]) writes:

   I am looking for a GIF library that will read a gif file and
   load it into an X Pixmap.

   Is there such a beast?

   speed is important.
   multiple images will be loaded.
   effective use of colormap is important.
   resolution of quntization a plus, but I could ensure that pictures
	   contain less than N (~100) colors.

   Where can I locate this? (ftp site)

Consider looking at xloadimage and xv to see how they do things.  I
once used a part of xloadimage as a library to do this,  and obtained
good results.  If you have Motif,  then one of the demo programs,
motifgif,  does this as well.

--
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Snail:         11 Cambridge Center,  Cambridge,  MA  02142
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From: scottw@boulder.Central.Sun.COM (Scott Wiesner)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: why does xscope bomb in "-v4" mode?
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:42:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Date: 10 Sep 92 13:59:24 GMT
Message-Id: <laul5sINNo4v@cronkite>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I believe when I looked into this one time that I discovered it had to do
with xscope's inability to deal with the "listfontswithattributes" request.
I think the problem was that this request sent multiple replies back, and
xscope couldn't handle that.  I can imagine that there are other similar
problems in xscope.  

Sorry, I never fixed it, so I have nothing to really offer you that would
help.

Scott
From: dyson@sunfish.physics.uiowa.edu (Richard L. Dyson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X-perts!  need assistance w/ Xlib calls from FORTRAN.
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:27:51 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Department of Physics & Astronomy

Date: 14 Sep 92 19:50:11 GMT
Message-Id: <BuL33o.EAB@space.physics.uiowa.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Help Me If You Can!

        I have decided to try to see if I can port a VAX/VMS FORTRAN
Xlib program to a Sun SPARCstation IPC using SunOS 4.1.2, OpenWindows
3.0, and Sun FORTRAN 1.4.  Is there any chance?

        The VAX FORTRAN code used the VAX bindings of the Xlib calls
(X11R3, I think).  I will need the X11 include files as a start.  I have
looked through my /usr/openwin/include/X11 directory and have not found
anything yet.  If I had used the VAX MIT/C bindings on the VMS side,
would I fare any better?  I am not familiar with any other examples of
Xwindow calls from FORTRAN outside of the VAX examples I have.

        Besides a suggestion to re-write completly in C, does anyone
have a comments?

rick
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Richard L. Dyson               INTERNET:  dyson@sunfish.Physics.UIowa.EDU
From: riley@c0197.ae.ge.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Needed ... X Based PCL Previewer
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:52:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

Date: 4 Sep 92 20:29:55 GMT
Message-Id: <riley.715638595@c0197.ae.ge.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

The subject says it all.  I need an X based previewer
for HP's PCL printer language.  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
-- 
Dana M. Riley                     Internet: riley@ae.ge.com
Senior Software Analyst
General Electric Aircraft Engines
From: mark@ucsb.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Can you run X over a serial line?
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:51:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara

Date: 11 Sep 92 02:37:54 GMT
Message-Id: <5649@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Has anyone out there experimented with running an X application on a SPARC 2
using modems?  My boss wants me to connect a pair of SPARCs together with a pair
of 19.2K modems using ppp.  My first thought is that there isn't enough
bandwidth.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark Probert
From: jss@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Jelle Schoen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Resoures/Properties of a subprocess
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:23:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA

Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:49:19 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep8.194919.7324@inmet.camb.inmet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.windows.x

I hope someone can help me with the following:

I have an application running under the X window system (X11R4) on a Sparc
workstation and this application creates a subprocess which will run
independently under X creating its own windows.  The main application needs
to be able get resources/properties of the windows of the subprocess, such
as the x and y locations.  I like to write these to a file in order for an
user to be able to save the screen layout of the main and subprocess, and
restart them at some later date.  The subprocess is actually a plot utility
so I like to also save the window's content of it.  I have found a way to get
the root window's ID and a list of ID of all the clients currently running
under the X server, and their x and y coordinates.  I have done this using
calls to the procedures XOpenDisplay, XQueryTree, and XGetWindowAttributes.
I have the following questions:

1) Is there a way to uniquely identify the windows of my subprocess, that is
   any resources/properties that'll tell me which window is which?  How
   do I do that?  The ID itself won't do the job since the subprocess
   creates its IDs and the main process doesn't know them at all and I can't
   update the source of the subprocess.

2) Is it possible to save a screen layout?  And a window content?  I have heard
   of the utilities xwininfo for window attributes and xwd for a window's
   screendump but I need something that isn't interactively and they are.

I am new to the X world so any information is appreciated.  Also if I am
going in the wrong direction let me know.  I prefer e-mail but I also
will check the newsgroup.  Thanks,

Jelle Schoen
jss@inmet.camb.inmet.com
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: compiling R5 with gcc 2.2.2 on DEC MIPS?
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:33:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mount Holyoke College

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:20:02 GMT
Message-Id: <BuFvLF.G76@mtholyoke.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

As the subject says, I'd like to try this, but given limited disk space, etc.,
before I embark on this undertaking I'd like to hear if it's known to work or
not work.  If someone has an ultrix.cf/site.def for this purpose, I'd love to
see it.  Thanks...
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From: phil@news.ccutah.edu (Phillip Neiswanger)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:43:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center

Date: 13 Sep 92 21:22:39 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep13.212239.13844@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:
: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
: 
: >	If they aren't willing to open the box to check for documentation,
: >what makes you think they're going to take an opened box back when the
: >board isn't documented or is defective?
: 
: Yeah, but what video card company (or SCSI card company, or sound card
: company, or ...) packages technical docs with their product?  None
: that I've seen...
:
: [ remaining text deleted ]

It's even worse when companies won't give out any information.  My ATI VGA
Wonder was one of those cards that info. was impossible to get.  I don't know
if ATI policy has changed, but back when I needed info. about the Wonder
I ended up buying a book("VGA Programming" I think).  The authors of the book
even stated they had great difficulty getting info. on the Wonder.

				Phil
From: rmj@calmasd.prime.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Need XTERM to process Form Feed to clear screen.
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:10:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computervision - A Division of Prime Computer

Date: 9 Sep 92 20:59:46 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep9.125946.770@calmasd.prime.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Need advice as to how to get XTERM to process FF (form feed) like
conventional VT100 terminals. The regular terminals will scroll up
and clear a page worth of screen. Can't seem to find out anything
to set to cause this to happen and our applications use form feed to
clear an area to place text into with escape sequence commands
so without the clear area the display gets garbled. Would appreciate
any help on this.
-- 
----
    Ralph Johnson,   Computervision, San Diego R & D
    rmj@calmasd.Prime.COM
From: ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:28:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto

Date: 8 Sep 92 17:39:51 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep8.133951.13865@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.misc,comp.human-factors


In article <1992Sep8.071419.28920@Princeton.EDU>
qpliu@ernie.princeton.edu (q.p.liu) writes:
>
>What about heavy emacs/readline control/meta users like me?

You run it with a Sticky Keys feature, that allows you to lock down
modifier keys.

>I would like to see a left-handers version, though, so that making light
>use of the keyboard won't disrupt writing things down.
>That is one advantage when using a mouse---the left hand is free to do
>other things.

The current version mirrors both sides of the keyboard when you hold
down the spacebar.  Therefore, you can type one-handed with either 
hand.

Edgar
From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:59:54 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Alfalfa Software, Inc.

Date: 3 Sep 92 21:29:38 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep3.212938.6346@alphalpha.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.human-factors,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x

krawling@banana.ucs.indiana.edu (Ken Rawlings) writes:
>         #1: Send a postscript file to the printer. Just shove that baby down
PS downloaders are available from Adobe and may PD locations.  But you seem
to be asking the Mac to supply everyone one of your needs perfectly.  Frankly
you can't do the opposite thing on Unix without getting outside software
(or writing your own either).  Try printing a text file to a postscript printer.
That's a bit more common a desire.

>         #2: See this file sitting on the Hard Drive? Execute it. No, I don't
...
>         These are two _real_, non contrived problems I have encountered
This isn't contrived?  If you want to download software then you should
be using programs that know how to download software.  You can't execute
it anymore than you can execute a uuencoded file on Unix without using
uudecode.

-- 
						nazgul@alfalfa.com

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Getting foreground/background colors of a window.
Date: 6 Sep 92 12:34:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 06:59:37 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep6.065937.16145@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Sep2.132746.26532@enea.se>, mla@enea.se (Mats L|fstr|m) writes:

> For reasons of my own, I want to know the foreground and background
> colors used in a window.  But the window isn't created by my
> application, but rather by any other application.  Is there any way
> of getting this information?

Only by inference, by reading back what's in the window and trying to
figure it out.  One problem is that foreground and background may not
be well-defined; consider a GIF file displayer, for example.  Another
problem is telling the difference; consider an xterm with large
quantities of text displayed reversed - how are you to know which part
of the window is "reverse" and which is "normal"?

It's true that every window has a background of some sort.  But this
can be a pixel value, a pixmap, ParentRelative, or None.  In only one
of these cases is it even conceptually well-defined to ask what the
window's background color is, and in any case, you can't even find out
which alternative is in effect for a given window, never mind telling
what the pixel value is or pixmap contents are.  (Not
non-destructively, that is.  By playing games with obscuring portions
of the window in various ways and other things, you may be able to
deduce some things about the window's background.  All such attempts
suffer from races with the window's application redrawing the window's
contents.)

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: rtipnis@maxine.wpi.edu (Rajeev Tipnis)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Colormap stuff
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:05:58 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

Date: 6 Sep 92 23:24:00 GMT
Message-Id: <Bu6Jo0.EtD@wpi.WPI.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x.intrinsics


	In one of my applications, I want to dynamically change the
	colors of the stuff on a certain canvas widget. So, I need 
	to create my own colormap.
	
	I create my own colormap and then fill it up with certain color
	scales (by using XCreateColormap, XStoreColormap and XSetWindow
	Colormap). However, since this colormap is also shared by the
	others on the screen, the other colors are getting changed (I don't
	mind that). 
	
	However, I don't want the border colors/background
	color of the window I am in to change. So, I gather, I need to
	see to it that when I create my own colormap, I should not change
	certain color cells (which are getting used by this window) and
	should only use other color cells for my color scales. 

	So, my problem is ... How do I do this ? 

	Any help will be greatly appreciiated.

	Thanks.

-- Rajeev Tipnis


--
From: thomas@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (Thomas Okken)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: HELP! Need X11R5 server SPARC binary with NumLock patch!
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:39:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering

Date: 10 Sep 92 00:47:51 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep10.004751.18984@donau.et.tudelft.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi all,

As the subject says, I need a ready-to-run XsunMono binary (X11R5 server for
1152*900 mono display), with the NumLock patch applied. I would build it
myself, but I don't have enough hard disk space.
If you can help, please mail me and we'll work out the details.

Thanks!

 - Thomas (thomas@duteca.et.tudelft.nl)
From: thomas@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (Thomas Okken)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Looking for X11R5 server SPARC binary (with NumLock patch)
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:28:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering

Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 23:03:17 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep07.230317.16887@donau.et.tudelft.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi all,

I use X11R5 on a SPARC, and I would like to get a recent version of the server.
In particular, one with the NumLock patch applied. I can't build it myself
right now, because I have insufficient hard disk space, hence the question.
Is there a location where I could ftp it anonymously? Or would someone be
willing to mail me a floppy?
Thanks in advance!

 - Thomas.
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From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:56:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC

Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:37:31 GMT
Message-Id: <id.623T.4VE@ferranti.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors

In article <RJC.92Sep4141217@daiches.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley) writes:
> Actually, while mutant mice with less than three butons exist, I don't
> think software should cater to this perversion without the user
> providing a 20 page essay on why they are inflicting such a
> monstrosity on the world.

Single-button mice are a pain.

Two or three button mice are pretty much equivalent, with any consistent UI.
You have one button that does the selection, one that pulls down a menu. For
icon interfaces, you get a drag button and a menu button. For radio buttons
you get a default and a menu button. A third button can be used as a "perform"
button, replacing double-clicking.

The way X applications abuse the three buttons is actively painful. A single
button interface that's consistent is actually better... though I still prefer
a two-button interface like OpenLook.
-- 
Peter da Silva                                               `-_-'
Ferranti Intl. Ctls. Corp.                                    'U` 
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012
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From: odriscod@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Stack Traceback program wanted
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:42:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

Date: 10 Sep 92 11:57:37 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep10.152125.12289@topaz.ucq.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted,comp.unix.questions,comp.windows.x

In article <1992Sep9.203148.373@auto-trol.com>, johore@auto-trol.com (John Orendt) writes:
> Please send me any information on doing a stack trace you come across.
> Strictly UNIX on sun dec and HP
> -- 
> 
> ------Any resemblance to the views of Auto-trol is purely coincidental-----
> johore@auto-trol.com
> John Orendt          Auto-trol Technology Corporation

Err... I don't know if this exactly what you want, but in this or last months
DR Dobbs magazine it gives an article on this and the source listing
by the people that did it for VMS, I did not read all of it but it
seemed O.K. 

I hope this is of some assistance.

Cheers
David O'Driscoll

University of Central Queensland
Australia.
From: akao@.com (Adam Kao)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 5 Sep 92 04:34:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA

Date: 4 Sep 92 15:58:17 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep4.155817.23512@oracle.us.oracle.com>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors

Everybody:  Edit your Followup lines.

In article <3SEP199217474904@rover.uchicago.edu> frank@rover.uchicago.edu writes:
>	Mice, (and sonic pens, etc,) should be used for what they were designed
>	for, that of tracking human movement on a 1 for 1 base, such as free-
>	hand scetching.

Mice are not good for sketching.  Mice are not good for signing your name.
Pens are and always will be the optimal freehand device.

Adam
From: quandt@mcs213e.cs.umr.edu (Brian Quandt)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R5 binaries
Date: 6 Sep 92 09:28:22 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

Date: 5 Sep 92 02:17:50 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep5.021750.14982@umr.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

gain I'm looking for binaries for some strange machine.  

Has anyone seen X11R5 binaries for Lynx (a PC running Lynx)?

The Lyns OS comes with X11R4,  i.e., they have not upgraded their release
yet.  

				Brian Quandt
From: khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu (Little Kenny Hamer)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Fractal programs for X
Date: 7 Sep 92 08:29:26 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

Date: 7 Sep 92 06:08:03 GMT
Message-Id: <4978@sumax.seattleu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Can anyone tell me where I might find a fractal generation program for X? 
I seem to remember having heard of one called Xfract, but I can't seem to
find it anywhere.  

Thanks,
     Ken
     khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu