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From: ER6QC@CUNYVM.BITNET (DAHLIA)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: WANTED: 86 1/2-87 TOYOTA SUPRA!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:22:46 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

I am looking for a Toyota Supra Turbo Targa
 -5 spd man. trans.
 - Must be original owner/records
 -Must be in Excellent running condition in/out and CLEAN
 -If anything is needed please specify (clutch,tires,breaks)

If anyone wants to sell, or knows of anyone who wants to sell in the N.Y.C.area
       -or- if you know of any list where I could get info on buying,
  please let me know.
                      Thanks in advance

                                      Dahlia
                                  (718) 939-3043
                                 Leave message or send e-mail ASAP ;)
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From: stecz@pencom.com (John Steczkowski)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Aftermarket sunroofs - are they any good?
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:09:12 GMT
Reply-To: stecz@pencom.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <1992Oct5.152644.12334@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>  
sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:
> In article <1992Oct3.173609.2733@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
nathanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathan Chan) writes:
> >Hello netters:
> >
> >I am interested in the new Nissan Altima. When I went to the dealer
> >and looked at the GXE model, he said that a factory sunroof was
> >not available, but that a company called "American Sunroof" could
> >put one in. (power tilt/slide with sunshade)
> >It would be done before I took delivery and would cost
> >about $1000. Has anyone out there had experience with this company
> >or with aftermarket sunroofs in general? Is the quality the same
> >as a factory-installed one? If I put one in, does that void any
> >part of the new-car warranty? Any comments would be appreciated.
> >
> sounds like the same company my sister had put a sunroof in her
> car - they did a good job...one comment, call the company itself
> and see if you can get a better price....

American Sunroof Company (ASC) does most of GM's "factory" sunroofs and  
convertibles.

--
  John Steczkowski                        stecz@pencom.com
Are you truly willing to take the risk of being severely
or even fatally injured just for the thrill of roadracing?
- As Quoted from New Rider Information Booklet of the CMRA
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: dwjz@bnr.ca 
Subject: disabling antilock brakes on Hondas
Keywords: Honda antilock brakes
Reply-To: dwjz@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:09:54 GMT

OK, I've heard horror stories from people who own Acura Integras about
very long stopping distances on snow covered roads because of the anti-
lock brakes.  I don't know if these stories are true since I've never
driven a car with antilock brakes in the snow before, but I'm inclined
to believe them since Mercedes-Benz recommends turning them off when
roads are snow covered.

I own a Honda Civic EX-V (almost the same as the EX in the U.S.) with
anti-lock brakes.  Does anybody know if there is a Honda-approved way
of disabling them.  My dealer says that if I touch them (even simply
removing the fuse) I'll void the warranty, and I really wouldn't want
to do that :-).

If there is no way, I'll probably go ahead and install a disable
switch anyways.  What's the best way to do that - wire it in series
with the fuse?

Any ideas appreciated...
-- 
dwjz@bnr.ca  Voice: +1 613 763 8217             Disclaimer: my opinions only  
                or: +1 800 739 7528 - only works in Canada
Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:03:46 -0400 
From: Kevin S Ng <kn00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Exotic Cars


    Once saw an F40 while driving in Houston--no joke--it was real.

                                              Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: downforce and cornering g's (was which car handles the best?
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:15:36 GMT

In article <Bvv8DK.89@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar) writes:
|> Oh, no. Another person blind to physics. Very simply, because I am in a hury...

You must be in a hurry, because you skimmed over the qualifiers that show up in
my physics book -- the equations are for dry friction between smooth surfaces. 
My book makes a point of mentioning that the concept of friction is not well
understood (obviously).

|> Frictional force is equal to the Normal force that the road puts on the
|> tires multiplied by the coeffiecient of friction for rubber on cement.
|> 
|> In other words...      F(fric.)=F(norm.)xU    where U is the friction coef.
|> 
|> Now, the normal force (force that the road puts on the tires) is equal
|> to the sum of the forces that the four tires put on the road. This force
|> would of course be equal to the mass of the car multiplied by the acceleration
|> due to gravity. This is the wieght of the car. So now the equation becomes...
|> 
|>                        F(fric.)=WeightxU
|> 
|> Now, if the coefficient of friction between rubber and concrete is about
|> 1 in an ideal case, then the equation becomes...
|> 
|>    F(fric)=Mass x Gravity     where Mass times Gravity is the car`s weight.
|> 
|> Now, force = mass times acceleration. So if we substitue this into the
|> above equation, we get...
|> 
|>    Mass x Acceleration = Mass x Gravity
|> 
|> Of course, the mass cancels on both sides of the equation, so it simply
|> becomes....
|> 
|>                   Acceleration = Gravity
|> 
|> Gravity at sea level is about 9.8meters per second^2, or about 32.2 feet
|> per second^2. So, in an idealized model of a turning car, the maximum
|> lateral acceleration cannot be more than the acceleration of gravity. 
|> But, as I stated in a long article previously, a turning car does not
|> follow all of the ideal rules. You might want to read it sometimes, but
|> then again, you might want to pick up a physics book first.     

Ditto, you should.   The downward force can exceed the cars weight due to
aerodynamic loading, and the coefficient of friction can exceed 1.0 due to
adhesion and interaction between the irregularities between the tire and road
surface.  The "classic" physics equation typically only works for hard tires
on squeaky smooth parking garage floors.  Keep reading.

Mark
From: strollo@ssd.kodak.com (Larry Strollo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: SAAB love (was Re: Saab 900i Problems)
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:40:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Oct13.164026.18045
Organization: Eastman Kodak

In article <3935@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.152315.3423@u.washington.edu> basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>>Would you two please take this somewhere else?
>
>	Not until I've convinced *every* *reader* of rec.autos never, never,
>ever to buy a Saab.  
>
>	I'm on a mission from God.
>							the wharf rat
>
>


I'm getting ready to buy my third SAAB, a 93 9000CS - your mission is doomed.

LMS


-- 
===============================================================================
Larry Strollo                                             strollo@ssd.kodak.com
Eastman Kodak Co. Rochester, NY 14653-9005                       (716) 253-9822
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: enns@waterloo.hp.com (Roger Enns)
Subject: Re: RX7 Mailing list is AFU.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:04:54 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Lon Stowell (lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com) wrote:
: 
:    HEY, JEFF NAPPI!
: 
:    Your !@#$!@$!@#$ RX-7 mailing list is generating hundreds of 
:    phony error messages to several members.  It keeps sending error
:    messages from somebody's postings to every on on the list.
: 
:    Please !@#$!@#$!@#$ knock it off, OK?
: 
:    And you may want to ask your sysadmins why they don't respond to
:    the postmaster@att.com email address as well.
: 
: 

Do you also pass praise onto Jeff every time a sucessful mailing
occurs?  Let's be gentle while he works out the problem, unless
you are volunteering to take over the list?

--
Roger Enns (enns@waterloo.hp.com) Panacom Automation Division, HP
C-GIIV Dragonfly, 1979 RX7 13B, 1985 Colt
From: walkerr@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Robert A Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Two articles on seat belts
Date: 15 Oct 1992 15:12:11 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <26415@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense) writes:

>Should try mine, a 88 celica turbo alltrac. You don't even realize you're
>going over 100 mph on empty highways (with traffic, the other cars do
>seem to zip by rather quickly:) Or parhaps a Mercedes 300 on the autobahn
>going 130 mph. It seems fast, but by no means unreasonable. (top speed
>in a 300 was 245 kmh <~150mph> which occurred above red-line, in case
>anyone wants to know, although it might go a little faster, but I was 
>already in the red, oops:)

Well right now, I'm driving a Jeep Wagoneer wich is squeerly at 15mph never
mind over 100.  And my Bronco is nice and smooth, and it feels like your
barely moving at 80, but that is pushing since the engine is really old with 
160k miles on it.


>As for your father, that had a profound effect on him. Now think about
>if you knew some folks that had their liscense revoked for life, and
>also remember that this was something that cost you thousands of dollars
>and months of your time to get. Do you think it likely that you would
>risk your liscense even once by drinking and driving? As for your aunt,
>she needs some serious help, unfortunately, she has to want to be helped,
>or it won't do her any good.

	I personally would never drink and drive for absolute fear of

1) dying
2) wrecking my car.
3) losing my license for even a day would be detrimantal sp?
4) I HATE getting pulled over
5) I'm broke and couldn't afford it
6) I don't want to be looked down upon as a f**k up.

	If there was a threat of losing your license for life, then only the 
people that didn't care would even bother drinking and driving.  Loss of 
your license forever is like the equivalent of castration or losing a loved
one.  I'll stay sober and wear my seatbelt.  



Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Humpty Dumpty)
Subject: The scoop on SENTRA?
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:37:40 GMT


I own a 1983 Nissan Sentra with 100,000 miles on it.

It seems to be in good condition and is very reliable.
What I'm wondering is, are there any other Sentra owners (early 80s models)
out there with 100,000 or more on?  Is this a car worth keeping and
investing
in? Or should I try to sell it now?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
From: sly9y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Do you have a Sable?  What's your MPG?
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:05:13 MDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Utah State University

In article <67276@cup.portal.com>, Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:
>>I am not sure if my 87 Sable Wagon consumes more fuel than average.  It's
>>getting only 17 MPG, freeway and local combined(half and half).  I inflate the
>>tires to 34 psi and keep the car in good condition.  Can someone own a similar
>>car tell me your MPG?  Or maybe the ways to increase it?  Thanks a lot.
>>
>>- james
> 
> Do you have the 3.8 or the 3.0 V-6? I have a '90 Taurus Wagon with
> the 3.0 V-6 and about 43,000 miles on the clock and I recently drove
> from LA to Sacamento and back... lots of long boring Interstate
> highway, a trip of appx 500 miles, and almost made it 1 way on one tank
> of gas, putting the mileage for that trip in the high 20s I guess
> since the tank holds about 17 gallons. Around town in stop'n'go
> traffic thru the suburbs I get about what you're getting, perhaps
> a couple mpg more. I'm sure it has to do with the time you can
> spend in the automatic overdrive 4th gear versus not as to what kind
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> of overall mileage you're gonna see. By the way, I run it on 
> "regular unleaded" 87 octane stuff (name brands) which it seems
> to like just fine.
> 
> Harv

We have a 91 sable with the 3.0, and on the highway we get 31-32 mpg, but 
around town it suffers.  something like low twenties.  About the above, 
_do not_ drive around town in overdrive this is just for steady driving above
45 mph.  I have heard too many stories about gm's th700r4, which is essentially
the same thing, only it is an incredible piece of *#$%!  When you drive around
town in od, it is constantly shifting in and out of od (which wears it out 
very quickly) and you also have to worry about lugging the engine.

pete
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Subject: Re: flat engines
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:30:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.170309.9559@eye.com> paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth) writes:
>>>disappear.  Horizontally opposed engines are the best kind to have, whether
>>>they number 2 cylinders, 4, 6 or even 12; but they are very expensive.."

>Yeah, why?  VW Beetles and Subaru's aren't exactly exotic cars -- or _are_
>they????

i don't know why.  the above was quoted text from an article and not
what i wrote.  i think i have seen references to this once in a long
technical write-up on the subaru svx, but i can't seem to find it
right now.  stay tuned.


eliot
From: harling@miki.pictel.com (Dan Harling)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Leaded gas and older engines
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:55:26 GMT
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

In article <13OCT199214095415@zeus.tamu.edu> rcg1597@zeus.tamu.edu (GUYNN, RICHARD CARL) writes:
>> 
>>When I had my 1980 Ford Escort's engine rebuilt, I asked the mechanic if
>>it was possible to convert the engine to run on unleaded petrol by replacing
>>some parts with heavier duty versions.
>> 
>>His answer was that because unleaded fuel burns at a much higher temperature,
>>converting my car to run on unleaded fuel ould be much more involved than
>>this.
>> 
>>Any comments on this ?
>
>	Yes, that is a bunch of baloney.  What the above poster stated was 
>correct.  The lead served to lubricate the valve seats and only did one other 
>thing: it increased the octane rating because it made the fuel a little more 
>difficult to ignite.  Nowadays unleaded has decent octane ratings so that isn't 
>a big deal, but the lack of lead in a car designed to run on it will experience 
>valve recession...

Nowadays unleaded *premium* has about the same octane rating as leaded
*regular*, and a car designed to run on '60's-vintage premium will
require octane booster or a retarded spark in order to run on pump gas
to avoid punching holes in the pistons.

In some cases, the engine's compression is just plain too high for
regular unleaded gas, even if you retard the spark beyond TDC.  In this
case, the engine would have to have different pistons or a head gasket
spacer to lower the compression.  While I doubt this would be the case
with an '80 Escort (and '80 is pretty late for a leaded-gas engine),
rest assured that there are *some* engines out there for which this is
true.
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                 PictureTel, but they ought to be!
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Why not a Taurus SHO Wagon??
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:08:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

SHO, schmo.  What I want in a Taurus wagon is the blown 3.8 from 
the Superchicken.  This engine would be much better suited to the 
way people actually use station wagons, IMHO -- they don't usually
want to go 140 mph, but wouldn't mind a comfortable 100 mph cruising 
speed combined with the ability to keep up the speed limit when 
towing a boat up a mountain road.  To say nothing of the Waterloo of 
the Taurus wagon: merging into fast traffic from a steep on-ramp.

And hey, while you're at it, Henry, how about more robust brakes,
a higher-capacity cooling system, and a way to lock in second gear
on the AXOD transaxle? 

I'm quite pleased with my Taurus wagon, mind you, but it could sure
do with 50 more horsies and the ability to whoa them without fade
and pedal judder.

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: Augustine C Chin <achin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Problems on Civic
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:43:56 GMT


Hi,

	I accidentally erased all the stuff I had on problems with the Civic.
The problems were specifically, the clutch problems, dash board vibrating too
much etc...

	If anyone has a copy of that, or know about those problems, please
send a mail to me.

	Thanks in advance.

Augustine

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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.audio,rec.video
Distribution: na
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Subject: Re: Interesting article about Japanese trade policy in
	auto/electronics industry (2/2)
	<1992Oct15.163823.12977@col.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:19:14 -0700

In <1992Oct15.163823.12977@col.hp.com> arnie@col.hp.com (Arnie Berger) writes:
>ar12@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard Nixon) writes:

>  Just as a follow-up to your very interesting article, I happen to see
>a segment of the TV Program "Dateline", in which the US Customs service
>catches a California scientist who was selling code for satellite control
>to a Japanese company ( I think that it was Hitachi). What I found 
>interesting is the contrast between the behavior of Hitachi, in receiving
>sensitive material, lying about it, then refusing to return it, and the
>code of ethics that exists in most major US companies. I know that HP
>would not condone such behavior and would terminate any employee who
>was involved. I think that what you are saying about a "war" mentality 
>is correct. However, even in war there are standards of conduct. When
>these standards were violated in the past, we held war crimes trials.

     Before letting this thread be rightfully directed away from 
rec.audio, I'd like to note that "war crimes" trials are usually held by
the victors. 

OB rec.audio. I don't mean RCA Victor. ;-)


-- 

 "If Rush fans were braindead, why are there so   Bruce Bufalini
 many people posting to alt.music.rush?"              PSU
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ari@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ari Ollikainen)
Subject: Re: Why not a Taurus SHO Wagon??
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:17:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.012318.26186@leland.Stanford.EDU> tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
>In article <1asf6lINNgq7@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM writes:
>[SHO wagon proposal]
>>My feeling on it is that it would hurt the overall SHO image. For the same
>>reasons you don't take the Mustang 5.0 platform and make a wagon out of it,
>>or put the M5 motor in the 5 series wagon, you don't want to spread the
>>SHO name in cars whose purposes generally stray from the hi-po sedan
>>market.
>
>audi 200 quattro station wagon.

Not to mention the Volvo TURBO wagons...
From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: ignorant question - THANKS!
Date: 16 Oct 1992 03:35:36 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu


I just want to thank everyone for answering my question of adding 
salt to snow to prevent it from melting...

Out of the many (and I do mean many!) replies I got, only one was 
a flame... something about me definetly not being an engineering
major because the question was so elementary...  Well, actually
the question popped up in my material science class, and I can
tell you that after staying up for ~30 hrs straight doing hwk
for various classes, the most obvious answer is not always so
apparent... but enough of this non-rec.auto stuff....

Once again, thanks.  

David "who's still anxiously waiting for his new GM credit card" Shy (hehehe)
shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu

btw: I'm majoring in mechanical engineering...
From: awds_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (ClarkKent)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Ford Thunderbird Owners Here!
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:42:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

This is a reposting of a recent call-to-owners of
Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupes.  A few of us are
interested in starting an association, for
information, helpful hints, experiences,
exchange, promoting the enjoyment of this
vehicle.  If anyone is interested, email
at awds_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Thanks

Adam Edwards
From: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: RE: EXOTIC CARS
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 

-> > >    Once saw an F40 while driving in Houston--no joke--it was
-> real. >
-> I've seen a few NSXs, a Testarossa, and assorted "lesser" exotics,
-> but an F40?  Are those things even street legal?!?

 F40?  Haven't seen one driven on the street, but I do know they are
street legal.  In Houston, I probably see up to 3 or 5 a week, mostly
either around Westheimer or 1960.  A Lotus once a month, Ferrari 3 times
a month, Lambourghini 1 a season, not much else.
  Exotics are a commonplace around Destin, Florida and along the beaches
of Southern Cal. (Newport Beach, Laguna Beach, Del Mar, and Malibu)  In
a 1 hour period between Newport and Laguna, I saw a couple of AMG
Mercedes, BMW Schnitzer's M's and 850's, and NSX  Ferrari  Rolls and
Lotus galore...   San Antonio also has a couple of Ferrari's and Lotus's
floating around.  Seems like they have more than Houston.


Erich Lim
erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us
From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: FISH STRIKE
Date: 15 Oct 1992 01:42:25 GMT
Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews abusers - Beltway Annex
Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
NNTP-Posting-Host: skybridge.scl.cwru.edu

Others said
# >		Does anyone have any other unusual ***-strike stories.


Hey Ed!

That's your cue.....

--
A host is a host from coast to coast..wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
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is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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