HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ianm@laghey.UUCP (Ian Moran)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: I did some transfer rate testing with g protocol.
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:03:55 GMT
Organization: Private Amiga Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Stefan Berg (sgberg@peach.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:
: 
: Considering that the modems can exchange data at around 3000cps (with text
: files), the average 430cps I get is *really* bad. Do you guys have similar
: figures like me? Or did somebody figure out how to improve on them?

On a V32bis connection, with DTE locked at 38400 I get 750cps :-(
Using the same setup, I get 1600cps on A ZedZap Fidonet connection :-)

I now just accept that UUCP, on whatever platform, was not written with
efficiency of file transfer in mind.

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From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER])
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Fax with new Supra modems (how?)
Keywords: 
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:08:53 EST
Organization: Megalith Mail & News Server

Quoted from <...unknown> by drew@cgou11.cgo.dec.com (Steve Drew):

> Due to the new roms, Getty may need a small change or two to get the reponses
> correct. When my rom comes I will be trying it, and if needed will fix getty
> to make it work (unless someone has'nt already beat me to it).
> 
> Steve.

	Great!  Could you also let me know.  I got the new Roms
Today.  They work just fine.  I did have to Disable AT%G  That
allows the Baud Rate to Step up.  My Feed, UUNET, Doesn't lie it.
Screws up the Initialization Sequence when I connect.  I also had
to set ATS9=2 to Accomodate other Modems connecting to my system.

Carlos
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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: How to: Tin under AXsh under UUCP1.16
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL7]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 07:58:33 GMT

Scott Wills (mwills@su102c.ess.harris.com) wrote:
:
: But I don't see much in it that ann didn't already offer.

Whats it missing & what do *you* want?

: It's harder to select articles with two digit numbers than 
: with single character designations.

But what do you do if you want to goto article 100 in the list?

Iain

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From: wusel@hactar.hanse.de (Kai 'wusel' Siering)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 17:59:01 +0100
Organization: Villa Straylight, Hamburg, FRG
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Reply-To: "Kai 'wusel' Siering" <wusel@hactar.hanse.de>
Subject: Re: Protocols
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.9
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary
MIME-Version: 1.0
Copyright: Nachdruck, auch auszugsweise, ohne schriftliche Einwilligung des Autors bei Strafe verboten.

In article <Per_Salmi.0dlv@augs.se>, Per_Salmi@augs.se (Per Salmi) writes:
% Christian Balzer (CB@brewhq.swb.de) wrote:
% : In article <overlord.0bjd@megalith.miami.fl.us> overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER]) writes:
% : >
% : >
% : > Are there other UUCICOs out there which are compatible with
% : >UUCP 1.16 that support other protocols besides the 'g' or 'G'
% : >protocols?  Perhaps supporting a 't' or 'e' protocols which I have
% : >heard some mention of?
% : >
% : You don't wanna use 'e' or 't' on a modem link. There's no checksum
% : or other means of error correction whatsoever.
%
% What if you are using a v42 error correction connection?
% Is it still bad?

     Worse than  that ... Didn't gain much on a V.32bis/V.42bis link with g
(64/7)  -  and  the file I received wasn't the same I sent =:-< Seems as if
either my serial or the one at me feed site lost some bytes ...

% : And yes, there is such an uucico. And no, it's not released. And it will
% : probably be without the 'e' that's in there just for laughs right now but
% : hopefully include the bi-directional 'i' from the latest Taylor-UUCP.
%
% How many UUCP-sites in general supports better protocols than the standard UUCP 1.16 does?
% I would really like to have better transfer rates when getting my news...

     I  get  around  1100  - 1600 cps with g-proto (64 byte packets, 3 to 7
windows)  over  V.32bis/V.42bis  links  even when receiving compressed news
... How many more do you expect from other protocols?
			kai

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Namen `Enterprise'."         -- William Riker, "Star Trek - The Next Generation"
From: cg@ami-cg.UUCP (Chris Gray)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Sticky uucico problems.
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:07:29 MST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <BvyuGD.FA2@ais.org> tony@ais.org (Tony Poole) writes:
>Has this happened to anyone?:

Yes.

>I poll five times daily to my host.

I poll four times.

> [explanation of "hung" uucico transfers, from host to Amiga - deleted]
>Can anyone help me?

It isn't conclusive, but what has worked for me is to have some outgoing
stuff at the start of the poll (e.g. mail to my host back to me). If this
works for you, then I would guess that there is an uninitialized variable
somewhere. Are you by any chance using a Supra V.32bis? That's what mine is,
and if you are also, it could be a modem problem. My host is a Sun Sparc.

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From: bad1679@ultb.isc.rit.edu (B.A. Doehner)
Subject: uucp:c/anews.bat
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 09:43:13 EDT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Electrical Engineering
Reply-To: bad1679@ultb.isc.rit.edu
X-System: Amiga 500 /3 megs RAM/52 MB HD:
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Thanks to those who have helped me with the S:uuconfig file.  
I have another problem now.  Postnews looks for the UUCP:c/anews.bat
file which wasn't in the UUCP1.16 distribution.  
Could someone please tell me what is supposed to be in here?

Thanks 

Bernie Doehner
From: tony@ais.org (Tony Poole)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Sticky uucico problems.
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:16:33 GMT
Organization: UMCC

cg@ami-cg.UUCP (Chris Gray) writes:
>In article <BvyuGD.FA2@ais.org> tony@ais.org (Tony Poole) writes:

>> [explanation of "hung" uucico transfers, from host to Amiga - deleted]
>>Can anyone help me?

>It isn't conclusive, but what has worked for me is to have some outgoing
>stuff at the start of the poll (e.g. mail to my host back to me). If this
>works for you, then I would guess that there is an uninitialized variable
>somewhere. Are you by any chance using a Supra V.32bis? That's what mine is,
>and if you are also, it could be a modem problem. My host is a Sun Sparc.

No, I'm not using a supra - yet (until I can find one to buy).  I'm using a
Hayes SmartModem at 2400bps.  My host is a DEC 5000.

I've had outgoing mail almost consistently......sigh....

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From: wusel@hactar.hanse.de (Kai 'wusel' Siering)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 17:12:49 +0100
Organization: Villa Straylight, Hamburg, FRG
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Reply-To: "Kai 'wusel' Siering" <wusel@hactar.hanse.de>
Subject: Re: News to Mail
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.9
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary
MIME-Version: 1.0
Copyright: Nachdruck, auch auszugsweise, ohne schriftliche Einwilligung des Autors bei Strafe verboten.

In article <overlord.0bjb@megalith.miami.fl.us>, overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER]) writes:

%       Is there any software, either Arexx or Binary, that will
% get news posted in a particular newsgroup and post it to mail?
% Preferably, it would have to be smart enough to know which news is
% new and which is old and not post news to mail if it already did
% so.  Something like what is done with the ALT.SYS.AMIGA.UUCP
% newsgroup passing through mail. Any help would be appreciated. Take
% care..

     I know  I'll get flames for this =:->, but's pretty simple with CNews,
just let me quote from my uulib:news/sys:
---------------------------------------8<---------------------------------------
# sys-file of hactar (Domains: .hanse.de, .mali.sub.org, .hactar.sub.org)
#
# Last modification: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:45:42 +0100
#
# Amiga 2500/30, Amiga OS Release 2, wCNews
#
# Contact: Kai 'wusel' Siering <root@hactar.Hanse.DE>
#
ME:all,abqhh,alt,amiga,bit,comp,control,gnet,hactar,hanse,de,jat,maus,msn,nbg,news,north,pbinfo,rec,soc,to/all:F:
[...]
# Other gated things ...
#
amiga-lisp/mcshh.hanse.de,decwrl.dec.com,contessa:amiga.lisp/all,!amiga,!local::run mailgate <%s -t "amigalisp@Pa.dec.com" -f news
amiga-slip/ccs.carleton.ca:amiga.slip/all,!amiga,!local::run mailgate <%s -t "amiga-slip@ccs.carleton.ca" -f news
amiga-dice/castrov.cuc.ab.ca:amiga.c.dice/all,!amiga,!local::run mailgate <%s -t "dice@castrov.cuc.ab.ca" -f news
test-mlist/castrov.cuc.ab.ca:test.mlist/all,!amiga,!local::run mailgate <%s -t "test.mlist@castrov.cuc.ab.ca" -f news
hactar-in/fub:hactar.in/all,!local::run mailgate <%s -t "in@fub.uucp" -f news
[...]
--------------------------------------->8---------------------------------------

MAILGATE  is a simple SENDMAIL frontend that allows me to specify different
sender  in  the  envelope  (e. g. `From news ...') so that user get's error
messages  back, not the poster ... As CNews maintains a history of received
articles, there's no need for keeping track of this here =:->

     As I  always  said:  the plain news system from Amiga UUCP works (more
or  less  =:->)  well for leaf sites - if you're intend to do some specials
on  the  news  (e.  g.  gating between mailing-lists and newsgroups in both
directions, as I do here), you better install a `real' news system  ...

Regards,
			kai

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From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER])
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: I did some transfer rate testing with g protocol.
Keywords: 
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:12:26 EST
Organization: Megalith Mail & News Server

Quoted from <...unknown> by dfisk@level10.UUCP (David Fisk):

> UUCP isn't as efficient as a ZedZap (or other Zmodem) connection, but I get
> about 1400 cps with my V.32bis ZyXEL modem. My system is an A3000 with
> UUCP 1.16.
> 
> Dave...

	Well, I have just Doubled the Throughput on one machine
that feeds off of me.  I have a SupraFax Modem v.32Bis as well as
the system that polls me.  For whatever the reason, no matter what
command options Starl uses on UUCICO while calling my system, it
always connects with a Window of 7 Segment 64 'g' protocol.  On the
suggestion of one of the netters, I entered the options myself into
Starl's entry in the PASSWD file in UULIB.  The options I entered
are:

starl,*,6,2,(STARLIGHT),UUCP:C,uucico -pri -7 -n7 -P3 -pG

	I am now getting 1400CPS average on a 14,400 V.42Bis 
Connection which I consider decent and liveable.  Now if only I
could boost my throughput with UUNET.  Anyone else connect to
UUNET through a V.42Bis Compuserve line?

Carlos
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From: hugh@kink.PhaedraV.On.Ca (Hugh D. Gamble)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Sendmail routing
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:50:50 EST
Organization: Phaedra V

In article <BvsvEy.poF@icsbelf.co.uk>, Ian Moran writes:

> Thanks, just the info I wanted. I now have them in front of me.
> I also ordered the O'Reilly & Associates book on Electronic
> addressing, hope it's useful.

It's just what you need to sort out questions like yours, or deciding
if you really do have a bug in your mailer.

I also highly reccommend their Managing uucp and usenet book for
AmigaUUCP administrators. Their Using uucp and usenet is excellent as
well. 

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From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Sendmail routing
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.6.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:38:11 EDT
Organization: Well, I haven't decided on a name yet...

In article <overlord.0bs6@megalith.miami.fl.us> overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER]) writes:
>       I have read several documents dealing with Internet as well
> as UUCP Mail which states not to mix @ symbols with ! Symbols.  The
> reasons are many. You found one of the many.  To insure that your
> address is left alone use this address:

Well, I wouldn't say to not do it, but instead you need to be aware
of what your software is doing. RFC976 & RFC822 can help a great deal
as well.
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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Subject: AXsh problems getting login prompt after CONNECT!
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 21:07:33 EDT

I've installed the AXsh.demo (1.25) but am having problems connecting.
I understand the system pretty well but probably don't know modems
well enough. I'm using a straight Supra2400 with cts/rts on and set
the system up to answer the line, then tried to dial in from a remote
system. I got the "CONNECT 2400" message, but nothing else after that.
CR/LF and controls did nothing to get the AXsh to respond. What might
be wrong here? I'm using the defaults that came with the demo in most
cases, just trying to establish a viable link.

Also, I normally run uucp for outgoing and incoming calls at various
times of the day (which I've disabled during the AXsh testing), and
hope I can continue this. It seems that setting the %starthour and
%stophour in the /etc/rc.server file should turn auto-answer on and
off, but I may be way off here (please help me on this one!).

Lastly, in the AXshAdmManual under the 2.0 installation, it tells me
to drag the _3_ icons in the AXsh:storage directory to the WBStartup
directory. However, in the distribution I got there were ONLY _2_ such
icons (specifically the ones with the letter A in the upper left
corner, being the AX-server and AX-Sysghost). Am I missing a critical
startup program here or what?
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From: chr@senga.ka.sub.org (Christian Riede)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Protocols
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 07:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Private UUCP site
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <overlord.0buc@megalith.miami.fl.us>, Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER] writes:

> Quoted from <...unknown> by CB@brewhq.swb.de (Christian Balzer):
> > In article <overlord.0bjd@megalith.miami.fl.us> overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER]) writes:
> > You don't wanna use 'e' or 't' on a modem link. There's no checksum
> > or other means of error correction whatsoever.
> 
> 	The Error Correction would be provided by the Modem.  I am
> using V.42Bis.  That has both Compression as well as error
> correction.  Since I would indeed have a reliable modem connection
> at all times, I do not think a Checksum would be required.  Correct
> me Net Folk if I am mistaken.

Yes, but you don't have error correction between modem and computer.

Gruss, Christian

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From: kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts)
Subject: GRn fonts
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:13:46 GMT

Where can I find the fonts necessary for GRn 1.16e?

Thanks,
Ken

Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
From: mwills@su102c.ess.harris.com (Scott Wills)
Subject: Re: How to: Tin under AXsh under UUCP1.16
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:42:47 GMT
Reply-To: mwills@x102a.ess.harris.com (M. Scott Wills)
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division.

jay@deepthot.cary.nc.us (Jay Denebeim) writes:

>Where can I get TIN, is it BMSable?

In the U.S:

wuarchive.wustl.edu:
/systems/amiga/incoming/comm/{amitin.lha,dlgtin.LHA}

Now that was an easy news reader to install!!!  But I don't see much
in it that ann didn't already offer.  It's harder to select articles
with two digit numbers than with single character designations.
Still, nice port!  If it has the same functionality as nn, I may adopt
it, just because the same thing is available on my Unix box.

Scott
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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Protocols
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:30:22 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <overlord.0buc@megalith.miami.fl.us> by overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER]):
> Quoted from <...unknown> by CB@brewhq.swb.de (Christian Balzer):
> > In article <overlord.0bjd@megalith.miami.fl.us> overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER]) writes:
> > You don't wanna use 'e' or 't' on a modem link. There's no checksum
> > or other means of error correction whatsoever.

> 	The Error Correction would be provided by the Modem.  I am
> using V.42Bis.  That has both Compression as well as error
> correction.  Since I would indeed have a reliable modem connection
> at all times, I do not think a Checksum would be required.  Correct
> me Net Folk if I am mistaken.

    Using the current uucico, don't you get transfer problems with
    19200 or greater connections?

    In my case, with a LAPM and V.42bis connection, everything goes
    well ... until I read a large file from the HD. Then I get a lot
    of messages about "expected block N, received block M", and even
    "f.x. failed".

    So sure the modem is ok, but if you want to do anything else
    during the file transfer, you run the risk of having the modem <->
    Amiga connection crap out on you.

    I have the same problem with TrapDoor and Fidonet transfers with
    another board and an MNP4/5 connection, and ZMODEM transfers from
    a variety of other boards.

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From: starkg@argon.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Gavin E Stark )
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Upcoming AVM update/release.
Date: 9 Oct 92 07:32:44 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group


There are a few things that I have improved/added/fixed in AVM and will
want to release the update soon, so please:


If you have anything you want added/changed/fixed in AVM please send mail
to this address...

-Gavin Stark
From: ianm@icsbelf.co.uk (Ian Moran)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Sendmail routing
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:42:39 GMT
Organization: ICS Computing Group Ltd., Belfast
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Michael B. Smith (mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us) wrote:
: In article <ianm.0332@laghey.UUCP> ianm@laghey.UUCP (Ian Moran) writes:
: > When sending mail in the following form
: >  icsbelf!uknet!waspy@cix.compulink.co.uk
: 
: > this is what ends up in the D* file
: 
: > C rmail cix.compulink.co.uk!icsbelf!uknet!waspy
: >
: > Understandably, this does not make it past icsbelf. How can I persaude
: > sendmail to leave my address alone. I am using AVM, UUCP1.6D with the
: > supplied sendmail.
: 
: Understandably how? This is exactly what I would expect to see.

Ok Michael, this probably points at a poorly configured sendmail at
icsbelf. It thinks that cix... is a machine name. We are not finding
it easy to configure sendmail at this unix site, I don't think we
are the first to experience such difficulties.

If I leave the D* file alone the mail gets bounced back to me
by icsbelf, if i re-arrange it as above it makes it to its destination.

: If you were trying to use a bang-path style address to get to uknet!waspy,
: how would you write it? In Internet addresses the '@' takes priority over
: the '!'.

But that's the point user waspy is not known at uknet, he is known at cix,
which is known at uknet. I would write a bang path as follows

 uknet!cix!waspy

 I am assuming here that cix is known by uknet, I haven't checked the
 maps. I must admit to finding the whole business os addressing
 somewhat confusing. I understand bang paths ok, but when mmixed with
 % or @ or FQDN then things get interesting. If you can rec any source
 of reading on this I would be eternally grateful.
: --
:   //   Michael B. Smith
: \X/    mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us  -or-  uunet.uu.net!virginia.edu!adastra!mbs

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Ian Moran                     Internet:  ianm@icsbelf.co.uk
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