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From: pts@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Paul T. Shannon)
Subject: ear training application?
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:18:18 GMT

Can anyone recommend a Mac program that I can use for
ear training?  The progrm could include training for the 
recognition of intervals, chords and melody.  

Please respond via email.  I'll be glad to summarize if
there's interest.

 - Paul Shannon
   pts@Virginia.EDU
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:8064 comp.sys.mac.databases:464
From: brendan@claris.com (Brendan McCarthy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Filemaker Pro 2.0 release rumors or hard data
Date: 17 Apr 92 10:11:11 GMT
Reply-To: brendan@clarisii.com (Brendan McCarthy)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Claris Corporation, Santa Clara CA

ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi) writes:
>Did anyone else notice the glaring omission of Publish and Subscribe
>from the list of features in 2.0?  Did they just forget to mention
>it, or is Claris really planning on shipping FMPro 2.0 without the
>feature?
>
>Ralph Brandi     ralph@mtunp.att.com     att!mtunp!ralph

Ralph,

While I am not speaking in any official capacity, I would like to point
to that Pub/Sub is an extremely complex issue for database applications
and is fraught with weird cases and fallen user expectations.
Pub/Sub, as it is defined by Apple was designed with text and pictures in
mind.  It manages to work reasonably well for spreadsheets too, but
fails miserably when confronted with databases.  Since Apple initially 
introduced Pub/Sub in '89, we have repeatedly pointed out these problems 
to Apple.
When it comes to publishing records in a multi-user database, one must ask 
"What does the user think she is publishing?"
When a user performs a query and publishes the result is she:
  1) Publishing all records which satisfy the query criteria?
  2) Publishing the particular records which are selected by the query?
  3) Publishing the formatted output (report) which is displayed on her 
     database screen?
Establishing the proper user expectation and presenting a clear interface
for this problem is clearly not a simple matter of drawing a bordered box!

Record locking and access privileges issues further complicate things.
And not least, there is a need for a standard format for exchanging rich 
tabular data.

When designing with these considerations in mind, one soon has several 
menu items, option dialog boxes, and a database maintenance morass.
Perhaps there will eventually be some support for warm-linking with databases,
but I suspect most developers will turn their attention to avoiding
"glaring omissions" in more pressing functional areas.

Brendan McCarthy
Database Engineering, Claris Corp.
brendan@clarisii.com
From: larry@xlnt.com (Larry Pollack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Public Folder for System 7
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:17:12 GMT
Reply-To: larry@xlnt.com
Distribution: na
Organization: XLNT Designs, Inc.

In article <16534@ulysses.att.com>, esc@ulysses.att.com (E. Steve Crandall) writes:
> Is there a public folder (or something like it) that works with System
> 7.0?

I found it more convenient to continue to use PF under system 7.0. My Classic
with 7.0.1 and Tune-up 1.1.1 work fine with PF. Our other Macs are running 6.0.x
and some of the inits they run conflict with file sharing. Until the other Macs
get over to 7.0, we'll stick with PF.

-- 
/======================================================================\
| Lawrence J. Pollack                   | Your source for FDDI SMT.    |
| XLNT Designs, Inc.                    | Voice   : 619-487-9320       |
| Internet: larry@xlnt.com              | Fax     : 619-487-9768       |
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From: kevin@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Kevin Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Excel 3.0a printing problem
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:42:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, UK

I am developing an Excel 3.0 form that requires headings with white text on a
black
background.  Although Excel allows me to do this, when I try to print the file
on
a laserwriter all I get is black boxes. Am I doing something wrong, or is this
a
known problem with this version of Excel.   

I'm running Excel 3.0a and printing with version 7.1.1 of the laser printer
driver and
have installed System 7 tuneup v. 1.1.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

P.s. My apologies if this problem has already been hammered to death on the net
...

Kevin Mitchell                   JANET: kevin@uk.ac.ed.dcs
LFCS, Dept. of Computer Science  ARPA:  kevin%dcs.ed.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk	
University of Edinburgh          
Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, UK.           Tel:   (+44) (0)31-650-5195
From: tbeaubie@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Todd Beaubien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: PICS editor?
Summary: Try ColorIt/Expert Color Paint
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:58:25 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Apr15.202715.8248@news.nd.edu> Mike.W.Miller.40@nd.edu (Mike!) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of a good editor for PICS files?  What I'd like to see
>is something that can:
>
>1. Open multiple PICS files at once.
>
>2. Offer cut, copy, and paste of individual frame within and between
>   PICS files.  (Drag and drop would be fantastic!)
>
>3. Offer very basic tools for touchups (eraser, pencil, color picker,
>   paint bucket, eye dropper) or even some advanced tools (smudge,
>   magic wand selection tool).
>
>4. The ability to concatenate/combine multiple files, with an option to 
>   remove or leave duplicate frames numbers.
>
>Thanks,
>Mike!
>
>***--------+----------------------------------------------------------***
>*  ______  |  Mike! <=> Mike W. Miller           office:  219 239-8024  *
>|  \    /  |  e-mail:  Mike.W.Miller@nd.edu    home/fax:  219 237-0788  |
>***--------+----------------------------------------------------------***

     You might try ColorIt or its secret alter ego Expert Color Paint. It
not only will let you edit PICS, but shows you how in the ECP manual as a
tutorial. Low Price too!!

Todd Beaubien
UT at San Antonio
tbeaubie@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
From: peterco@eff.org (Peter A. Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: WriteNow2.2 -> 3.0, good idea?
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:26:16 GMT
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2

I understand that WriteNow 3.0 is _not_ out, but is due to ship
imminently (hopefully before the end of the month).  T/Maker's telephone
number is (415) 962-0195.  If you call, I'm certain that they can direct
you to the toll-free number they've set up for WriteNow upgrade customers.

- Peter
From: hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Sound conversion - SoundEdit to "real" sound
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:34:44 GMT
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Originator: hshubs@eff.org

In article <32243@darkstar.ucsc.edu> capri@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (71062000) writes:
>
>Anyone figure it out?  I have some really cool sounds in SoundEdit format and
>some others in .snd format, but I WANT them in Mac sound format, the kind 
>I can stick in my system and use as beeps.  I've mucked around with ResEdit
>and with a utility called SoundMover but just can't seem to figure it out.

SoundMover can handle SoundEdit files.  It'll convert them to 'snd '
format so that you can use them as you refer.  You might not have a
recent copy of SoundMover.  SoundMover is shareware BTW, and SoundEdit
is commercial.  As far as I can tell, both are being actively
maintained by their respective producers.
-- 
Howard S Shubs      hshubs@eff.org      I don't represent the EFF,
The Denim Adept     hshubs@BIX.com      but I do agree with them.
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From: parker@gdls.UUCP (Doug Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: OCR software to process bubble-forms? Hardware Q too.
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:09:29 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: usa
Organization: General Dynamics Land Systems, Sterling Heights, MI

MacWEEK recently had an article on an OCR software package
that would allow you to define bubble areas on a bubble
form and process scanned bubble forms used in surveys.
What is it? What apps do it?

On the hardware end of things, what scanners (flatbed or other)
have batch, automatic scanning capabiilities?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: dks@athena.mit.edu (dks)
Subject: Re: Claris bashing (and a bit of DeltaPoint bashing)(was: Misc Bashing)
Organization: MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:10:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.203519.16037@m.cs.uiuc.edu> coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
>>--In article <1992Apr11.151138.3378@athena.mit.edu> (comp.sys.mac.apps), dks@athena.mit.edu (dks) writes:
>>--> In article <1992Apr8.152837.2483@otago.ac.nz> stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:
>>--> >In article <19738@castle.ed.ac.uk> egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
>>--> >>For my 2 cents, I think it's pretty piss poor that MacDraw Pro doesn't
>>--> >>support Publish and Subscribe. Was it a secret or something? 
>>--> >Because they had frozen the feature set for MacDraw Pro before
>>--> >they could include any of the System 7.0 features. 
>>--> Is this supposed to be an excuse, an explanation, or a definition
>>--> of the problem?
>>Well whatever it is, it's totally unacceptable.
>
>The problem, of course, is that it's really difficult to ever put out a
>product (especially a moderately well-tested, stable product) if you
>don't pick some point and freeze the feature set there. If Claris had
>delayed MacDraw Pro until Sys7 features could go in and testing be done,
>would that be more acceptable? Or would people be bashing Claris for
>long delays instead of for leaving out Sys7 features?

We're talking about a wholly owned Apple subsidiary here.  If I can read
Tech Notes, so bloody well can they.  Not to mention the little detail
that System 7 itself was slightly late so that there ought to have been
ample time to put in all the features and bugs we were expecting.  Besides,
if Claris doesn't showcase OS7 features, who do you think will?


Dhanesh
From: dburr@nixhub.UUCP (Donald Burr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Any System-7 compatible menu-bar clocks available?
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:32:55 GMT
Reply-To: dburr@nixhub.UUCP (Donald Burr)
Organization: NixBBS Public Access UNIX, Carpinteria, CA

In article <ktvbn6INNdf2@spim.mips.com> jrg@mips.com (John Galloway) writes:
>In article <jerome.702498481@yacht> jerome@ee.fit.edu (Jerome Chan) writes:
>>>In article <92091.150125MJR145@psuvm.psu.edu>, MJR145@psuvm.psu.edu (Michael Joseph Raneri) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> > After upgrading to System 7, my Moire menu-bar clock doesn't
>>>> > seem to work.  Are there any system 7 compatible menu-bar
>>>> > clocks out there?  Are any PD?
>SuperClock version 3.8 is working fine for me under System 7.01 and A/UX 3.0
>(the one slight excpetion to this is that its AM/MP indicator is on top of
>the ballon help menu icon, but since SuperClock does not use that area for
>a button the ballon help menu still works fine, you just have to click on teh
>AM/PM indicator!).
>	-jrg
>-- 
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>applelink   D3413                  CEO...receptionist    San Jose, CA   95133
>                                   Galloway Research     (408) 259-2490


I use Superclock 3.9.1.  It's 32-bit clean, and deals with the Balloon
Help (it moves the clock over so it doesn't overwrite it; all you have
to do is check "leave space for On Cue or Easy Access icon")
 
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From: Jim.Matthews@dartmouth.edu (Jim Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: StuffIt Deluxe 3.0
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:57:55 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Howard Shubs writes
> Sounds to me like you've got more of a complaint with the programmers
> of these lesser utilities than you do with Aladdin.

As the author of one of these "lesser" utilities (Fetch) I probably should  
respond.  It is true that Fetch doesn't keep up with the latest and  
greatest compression formats; I have other features to worry about as  
well.  But it would be easier to keep up (and provide additional value to  
users of Compact Pro, StuffIt! Deluxe, etc.) if the creators of those  
formats were more open about them.

> Myself, I never
> create 1.5.1 archives.  If that means that you can't deal with it,
> that's your problem.  _I_ can deal with almost any archive intended
> for a Macintosh which someone sends my way.  Putting your head in the
> sand and refusing to deal with new superior technology is one of the
> attitudes that I refuse to respect.

Putting your head in the sand and refusing to deal with people who use  
different tools than you do is something I find hard to respect.   
Communication is a two-way street; if you want to promote communication it  
pays to be conservative in what you transmit and liberal in what you  
accept.

Bill Goodman and Alladin recognize this need to some degree; that's why  
they provide free Mac-based expanders.  But they can't seem to reconcile  
themselves to releasing the information that would make it possible for  
others to write expanders for other platforms (i.e. Unix) and other  
situations (i.e. expanding while downloading, as Fetch does).  Dik Winter  
has taken them off the hook as far as Compact Pro and StuffIt! Deluxe 2.0  
are concerned, by figuring out the formats and releasing source code; but  
now there's StuffIt! Deluxe 3.0 to deal with.  The net will be reluctant  
to take advantage of the progress made in SD 3.0 unless Alladin makes it  
easy for people to write their own expanders.

I for one am bailing out of this contest.  The next version of Fetch will  
not support any new compression formats; instead it will be able to  
automatically launch other programs (such as StuffIt! Expander) to expand  
downloaded archives.  This isn't as seamless a solution, and the  
decompression time can't be "hidden" in the downloading process, but it's  
a lot easier for me than trying to do what Goodman and Alladin don't want  
me to do.

Jim Matthews
Dartmouth Software Development
From: tcowen@clark.edu (Toni K. Cowen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Software to restrict HardDrive access wanted
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:12:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Apr7.211215.14184
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

Could anyone recommend software that would allow me to restrict access
to the hard drive for a macintosh that we have in the computer lab.

We would like to keep students from writing to the hard drive but allow
faculty to use the drive and save files on it.  We would also like to
keep faculty files so that students cannot read them.  

Thanks.   -Toni Cowen <tcowen@clark.edu>
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    Toni Cowen                                         tcowen@clark.edu
   Clark College       Vancouver,  WA 98663            Computer Science Dept.
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From: rmh@taligent.com (Rick Holzgrafe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Software for aerodynamic design wanted
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:55:08 GMT
Organization: Taligent

In article <1992Apr14.011305.18688@massey.ac.nz>, H.Edwards@massey.ac.nz (H.
Edwards) writes:
> 
> My 12-year-old son wants to do a science project on airships for our local
> science fair, and he wants to find some software for our Mac plus that
> will calculate the aerodynamic characteristics or efficiency of a given
> airship design.  The software does not need to be very sophisticated or
> accurate, but should give Joe Public some idea of what is a good or bad
> design.  Something with graphical (rather than numerical) input and output
> would be ideal, as his idea is for members of the public to try out the
> software themselves.

Look for a package called "Glider Design!" on anonymous FTP sites such as the
rascal archives. It allows you to interactively design balsa-wood gliders,
analyzes the result, tells you what's wrong with your design and how to fix it,
and eventually prints plans for building your glider. It's freeware from the
Michigan Space Grant Consortium, and I think it's wonderful. :-)

Hope this helps.

-- Rick Holzgrafe, a member of the Taligentsia
   Rick_Holzgrafe@taligent.com
   rmh@taligent.com
From: greenidd@CS.ColoState.EDU (danielle greenidge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: QIC 40/80 Tape Drives
Keywords: SCSI, quarter-inch, tape
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:27:06 GMT
Organization: Organization?  Why start now?


Just a note to all interested SCSI users:

I'm doing a little recon for my company regarding potential market interest
in affordable (~$550 to $650) QIC 40/80 tape drives (i.e. 120Mb to 250Mb). If
this sounds like a viable alternative to your current (or near-future) tape
solutions, drop me a little e-mail note with your machine type(s), operating
system version and phone number (optional).

Thanx,

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A man asked God how much a million dollars was to Him. "About a penny."
The man asked how long a million years was to Him. "About a second."
The man asked if God could give him a penny. "Yeah...just a second..."

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From: dl1@ukc.ac.uk (D.Langford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: PixelPaint Pro Problem!
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:00:58 GMT
Reply-To: dl1@ukc.ac.uk (Duncan Langford)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


C'mon, people... doesn't /anyone/ use PixelPaint Pro?

A while back I reported a puzzling development; PPP

> told me that my Mac - the identical mac it'd been running on slowly but
> happily before - wasn't suitable for PPP.
> ...even with 17 meg, PPP won't run (on a IIsi)

Summary: PPP DID work. It now DOESN'T, saying the IIsi is the wrong sort
of Mac.

And so far, not a single reply. If nothing else, has anyone an email address
so I can moan at the company?

In hope; and typing with crossed fingers is kinda tricky...

- duncan
From: speranza@uqbar.cirfid.unibo.it (Sauro Speranza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: uploading suntar1.2.2 (was Re: problems with SunTar 1.2.1)
Date: 8 Apr 1992 18:03:51 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 9:25:37 MET DST

	[ you may expect it shortly at the FTPable archives. ---Werner ]

>From: dglo@manray.Berkeley.EDU (Dave Glowacki)
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
>Subject: Problem with SunTar 1.2.1
>Message-ID: <rbb58INN67v@agate.berkeley.edu>
>Date: 1 Apr 92 03:37:12 GMT
>Article-I.D.: agate.rbb58INN67v
>
>I recently grabbed SunTar 1.2.1 and, foolishly as it turned out, erased
>the 1.2 version before testing it.
>
>Whenever I try to do anything involving a disk on the Mac, SunTar prompts
>for the disk and, after I insert the disk ... does nothing.  If I hit the
>Cancel button, the MacOS goes ahead and either mounts the disk or prompts
>me to initialize it.
>
|Click on some part of the dialog box other than
|the cancel button. It should go ahead. I don't know why it doesn't
|recognize disk insertion automatically anymore...

 Thanks for letting us know about that bug report in the News:
we've fixed the problem in this new release, suntar 1.2.2.

 Really, we've done again the thing that caused that problem:
when releasing a bug fix, we haven't undone a few little-tested
improvements done between the previous release and the bug
report: they are pretty and useful... probably this release
should be considered a beta, and it would be better not to
delete the previous one, which had problems only running under
the Finder of System 6 in machines with WaitNextEvent in ROM.

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From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Microsoft Bashing (Was: Re: News from Microsoft)
Date: 7 Apr 1992 17:40:06 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Apr5.224754.16166@news.media.mit.edu>
delphi@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Andrew J. Kass) writes:
 >Actually guys, I was just at MicroSoft and was talking with someone who
developed Word about this very subject. I brought up the point about the menus
that conflicted with everything and was told that the REAL reason was that at
the time, MicroSoft had no way of pulling down menus from the keyboard and
accessing menus without the mouse. So they had to write their own menuing code.

FullWrite manages to pull down menus from the keyboard and still use MENU and
MDEF resources.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Wed, 08 Apr 92 20:58:25 CST
From:         Nick <C09615NL@wuvmd.wustl.edu>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Zoo extractor?
Newsgroups:   comp.sys.mac.apps

 I'm looking for a .zoo extractor program for the Mac. I really need one
badly. Does anybody know where I can find it, or maybe does anyone have
it?
 I'll include email addresses at the bottom so that this won't tie up
net time.


Thanks,
--Nick Laneman
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Tracking software usage app?
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:57:33 GMT

I need an app or utility that will keep track of the number of times
different apps are launched. Such utilities are often used for proving the
amount of business-related useage of home-computers. I just need a name
of one.

It would be nice if the utility could provide a quick way of launching
apps too.

This will eventually be running under system 6.0.8.

Thankx a billion

--Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hull@ibma8.cs.uiuc.edu (David Hull)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Bashing (Was: Re: News from Microsoft)
Reply-To: David Hull <hull@cs.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:53:27 GMT

hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs) writes:

>You mean you actually _use_ the original floppies for installation??!?

I suppose you'd rather install software without ever having to
insert the floppies into the computer?

I, personally, use the original LOCKED floppies for installation.

-David Hull
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