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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Speaking of Fiamms...
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:53:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug12.185303.11260
Distribution: na
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Aug12.154129.17109@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
> Well in an effort to locate the DoD horn of choice I've called
>8 different auto part stores the first question is always "carry what?".
>Volvo dealer was the only one that's ever heard of em. Wants $60
>a horn. No amp, no relay, no hunk of wire. 
> 
> Can anybody around chicago(Naperville) enlighten me?
> Damn backwoods.

Well, a couple months ago I saw a pair of Fiamms in the clearance aisle
at the Aurora Venture store, for $7.50/pair.  I didn't have cash with
me at the time, and they were gone the following week.  If they haven't
all cleared out the old stuff by now, a couple Ventures or K-Marts might
be worth a look.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
Which is worse: using vast wealth to trounce a small country on the battlefield,
or using vast wealth to trounce several countries on the basketball court?
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:10:32 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Tuesday August 18 1992 08:48, Joe Senner wrote to All:

 JS> personally, when I'm driving a cage, my favorite way to get rid of
 JS> tailgaters is to jab the brake pedal and lose about 15-20mph in about
 JS> half a second. I've seen some interesting expressions on faces. I've
 JS> never had a MC tailgater since I usually try to yield to them well
 JS> before they get to where I'm at.

I've done that a few times in a cage, Joe, and once it got hairy and almost
resulted in a rearend collision at 70 mph. I have since decided that when
in a cage being tailgated by a cage, I will just take my foot off the
accelerator and drift down until the asshole backs off or goes around. If
s/he backs off, I speed back up. First thing I do, though, is make sure the
lane to my right isn't clear. If it is, I am in the wrong lane to start with.

I would never play games like that when riding. One bump from a front bumper
to my rear wheel at highway speeds would ruin my entire week, no? I've always
used my maneuverability (change lanes where asshole can't follow) or speed
(warp to another galaxy) to simply remove myself from in front of said
jerk.

Since I put the Priority Lights gizmo on, that flashes the rear turn signals
if you touch the brake pedal (for 1-1/2 seconds), I've been tailgated a lot
less in city traffic. Just a slight stab to the rear brake pedal, not enough
to brake, and the lights flash. I can see the distance widen behind me to
the next car, it really gets their attention! This even works on the highway
in the same way, and is brilliant at night!  And I've had CHP behind me who
never stopped me for it, probably because it doesn't mess with the red brake
light.

John

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ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: paulb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Paul Bonomo)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:00:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Wearing a helmet
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles


... can't waste a chance to issue the standard reply ...

I think it's TERRIFIC that there are so many riders who refuse to wear
buckets.  After all, what trait can natural selection of modern humans 
work on besides intelligence?  My fondest dream is that you exercise
your personal freedom to be stupid ... and that you smear your brains
down the highway long before your moron offspring have a chance to breed
with my kid.

... the only time wearing a lid endangered my life was when I shared
words to the above effect with a fellow (lid-less) drinker in the local
biker bar.

__________________________________________________
...just gotta invent a snappy signature some day...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood)
Subject: Re: Honda Shadow 1100 emulates which Harley?
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:18:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.230226.322@halfdome.sf.ca.us> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.151232.7136@cs.wayne.edu>, pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood) writes:
>> I've been to about three Honda dealers in the metro area and has drooled
>> over the Honda Shadow 1100.  I hear that Honda modelled this moto after
>> one of the Harleys.  Which one?  Someone mentioned the Shadow as
>> 'Honda's softtail knockoff' but to me the Harley Softtail seems like a
>> much different bike (taller, smaller displacement, different profile).
>> What's the Shadow similar to?  The Shadow lists at $6,700.  What's the 
>> Harley list at?
>
>god, it's a virgin.
>
>we don't see many like you in these parts, boy.
>-- laurie

S'long as you're gentle....

(born to be mild?)

-- 
"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net," | DoD #1966	
	Matthew 13:47                              | 81 Honda CB400T Hawk
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:16:18 PDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <BD.92Aug21135420@fluent.UUCP>, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:

> You bet they do.  I'm a librarian!!!

sure, brice.  and i'm a little old lady who flies airplanes.  right.

-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: craig@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ryan Craig)
Subject: Re: oil recycling
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:31:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.130923.58128@cc.usu.edu> slndw@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>Question:
>
>Can synthetic motor oil be recycled???
>
>If so, can it be recycled with petrolium oil, or does it have 
>to be separated??
>
>-toot
>DoD#3323
>

That would depend on what type of synthetic oil it is.  If it is
hydrocarbon based, it is recyclable with regular oil.  If it is ester
based, it won't even mix with regular oil.  I got this bit of information
from this month's Motorcyclist magazine, 20 questions about oil.  YMMV.
Later...
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|craig@ug.cs.dal.ca               are mine, all mine, and you can't have them|
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From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Gorgeous customized Hawk (was Re: Gonna take the plunge)
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:48:02 GMT
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames

"Manish" == Manish Vij <mvij@novell.com> writes:
Manish> [description of customized hawk]

Manish> So pardon me for staying away from Hondas, but isn't the Hawk a
Manish> standard?  If so, has anybody done these mods on the Hawk?  It was
Manish> such a beautiful bike.


The stripped-down Hawk is a fun bike to ride.  One of the racing
companies markets a "RC31" kit for the Hawk that makes it look (and
perform :-) like a scaled-down RC30.  One of the mags recently had the
"RC31" in a performance test with Duc's, etc.  Said something to the
effect of "And if you don't think money is for burning, get a Hawk and
as much of the RC31 kit as you can afford".


--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
            '91 CB750, soon to be joined by a '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead
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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Hearing Protection (was Re: Helmet Speakers)
Organization: Are you kidding?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:13:34 GMT

In article <13324@pogo.wv.tek.com> kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills) writes:
+In article <1992Aug8.184742.12538@colorado.edu> matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:
+>
+>Headphones aside, earplugs 
+>are necessary on highway rides on many bikes, to protect against
+>permanent hearing loss.  
+>-- 
+>-Alex Matthews (matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu)
+
+I too am interested in protecting my hearing while riding.  My problem
+however is that in the past when I have used the foam ear plugs I
+enevitably end up with a chunk of ear wax deep down inside my ear, 
+sometimes up against my eardrum.  While this does not appear 
+dangerous it is damned inconvienent.  It usually takes me about five
+days of pouring ear wax remover and dangerous stirring to finally 
+dislodge the wax.  During this time my auditory spatial perception 
+just doesn't work, and listening to music is no fun either.
+
+So, are there any viable alternatives to these ear plugs?

Yes.  If you leave the wax in your ears, you will not need to use
ear plugs anymore.

____________________________________________________________________________
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From: mattho@wallabee.lbl.gov (Matt Ho)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Mobil 1 oil
Date: 13 Aug 1992 17:26:46 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: mattho@wallabee.lbl.gov (Matt Ho)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.49

I have read a lot of good things about Mobil 1 oil but several
things were unclear to me:

Is the oil the same used in cars or is it a special blend made
for motorcycles?
Where can one go to get it?
And for those of you that have used it, did you encounter any
problem or even switched back to your old oil?

Thanks for your help.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Braking Distances (was Re: Scooters and a non-flame for RKOU)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:32:45 GMT

In article <5702@osc.COM> ben@osc.COM (Ben Sloss) writes:
|
|The question has also been raised, can a motorcycle stop faster than the
|*average* driver in the *average* car?  Well, sure, an expert on a 
|sportbike will stop faster the joe schmo in his (non-abs-equipped) 4-door
|sedan.  The result is meaningless, however.  The *average* motorcyclist
|on the *average* motorcycle will stop SLOWER than the aforementioned
|car driver.  It is easier to approach the limits of adhesion in a car.
|Also, many cars these days have ABS, and will stop faster than almost any
|bike, regardless of rider.  For instance, if Mr. Joe is driving his 
|ABS Taurus and slams on the brakes, the ABS computer takes over and brings 
|him to a rapid stop.

You are assuming equal brake timing.  I submit that a practiced and educated
motorcyclist can outbrake a typical cager (even an ABS equipped cager) in 
real traffic through situational awareness and braking readiness.  He can
simply get on the brakes that much sooner.

Whether the practiced and educated biker is an *average* biker, well,
probably not.  But, as the question applies to *me*, and hopefully,
to *you*, well, then, yes, a motorcycle *can* stop faster than a car.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmmmm)             |  this weird shit
No ratbike at the moment.  Suggestions?     |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
From: steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Muzzy vs. Fiamms
Summary: Discriminate vs Indiscriminate Attention Getting
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:27:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <78047@ut-emx.uucp> captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
>I have now witnessed the reaction described by several avid Fiamm horn
>owners, of a cager visciously whipping back into his lane to avoid the 
>oncoming "truck/train".  However this reaction was induced, not by the
>Fiamms, but by the awesome sound blaring out of the Muzzy pipe, as I
>decelerated for a turn...
>I still plan to attatch my Fiamms ... Until then, I'll just 
>"honk" my throttle!   

Sorry, but there's a _big_ difference between attracting the attention
of a daydreaming cager and polluting the environment with noise on a
constant basis.  

Ride quiet.  It makes for friends for motorcyclists.
--
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dschlot@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Dave Schlotthauer)
Subject: Photo Radar
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 04:08:05 GMT

You know the photo radars, the ones you pass but dont notice until 
you see the little trailer with the "You are going.." with your
speed beneath? Well I drove past one today and guess what? It didn't
do anything. I was a little nervous cause I wasn't exactly doing the
speed limit. I thought that maybe it wasn't working so I went back
and watched as cars went by. It worked fine. So I go back (the legal
speed this time) and Viola! Nothing. Are we immune to this device?
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:53:18 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1992Aug14.145032.13054@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.022231.8807@news.columbia.edu>, scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>>         Not me. I have a shaft drive bike, and it counter-steers just fine.
>>         Maybe you haven't been pulling on the bars in a manly fashion...
>
>Pulling?  And here I thought the skill involved *PUSHING* the bars...
>

For me at least, it depends on the bike. On the R90S with short narrow bars
and a leaned over riding position, I push on the inside bar. On Norton, BSA,
and Triumph, which have higher and wider bars and a more upright seating 
position, I pull on the outside bar. Same effect. Has anyone else noticed
a similar difference due to riding position?

Jeff Achenbach
achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: MC license for scooter in your jurisdiction?
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:20:58 GMT


	A question for y'all:

	Do *you* need a MC license to ride a scooter in the state/province/	
	county/etc where you live ?
	
	I ask because while I lived in British Columbia, people could rent
	scooters, as long as you had a drivers license.  This amazed me.
	I'm not comparing scooters to MC's overall, but they are 2 wheelers,
	and require a few more street-sense brain cells than cages require.
	I saw *gangs* of them running through 4 way stops like they were
	in a playland.  They were just cheap rental TOYS to these
	imbecels(sp?).  

	Craig
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From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Renting motorcycle in UK
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:59:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.152458.10784@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
|Be aware that British:-
|
|                  bikes
|                  speed limits
|                  gallons
|                  dicks
|                  policemen
|                  bikers
|                  prices
|
| are all much larger than their foreign counterparts.  Be careful not to 
|overfill your tank and try not to ride too slowly on the MOTORway.

  He's right on some of those, at least...  Let me see - at least the prices,
speed limits, gallon's, and dicks are truly bigger - the rest seem to be made-up.
He's perhaps a prime example that all the people that I would consider dicks
that are British *ARE* bigger dicks than we have here...

  Oh, and of course:  :-) :-)

Randy Davis				UUCP: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot			      megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013			 	      ucsd!megatek!randy

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From: mvij@novell.com (Manish Vij)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Goof2 Stolen at Gunpoint
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:42:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, California

In article <1992Aug17.054710.2031@sequent.com> dickwin@sequent.com (Dick Winningstad) writes:

>The liberals of this country will work very hard to be your mom and
>eliminate anything that is different and could be of danger to you.
>That is a fact that is provable just by reading the newspapers. Just
>ask Ralph Nader, or Joan Claybrook (sp?).

When I had the unhappy occasion of attending traffic school recently, the
instructor was all for mandatory crash helmets and over-the-shoulder
harnesses -- in all automobiles.  If she'd had her way, motorcycles would
probably be banned and people would be walking around on the street
wearing brightly-colored Nerf-type bumpers on their torsos.

BTW, I am a Democrat.
                                          /-\o /-()  -- -  --   -
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   mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu                       |/_\  -- -  --   - 
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From: rone@chort.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Honda Helix or Elite
Date: 17 Aug 1992 21:36:33 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: chort.usc.edu

In article <16pnv5INNp42@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> sandman@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur) writes:
>Having owned a Elite 250 and ridden a Helix I would say get the 
>Elite...
[deleted]
>Depends on what kind of riding you want to do. If you want something
>that is fast, responsive and blows every other scooter out of the water,
>buy an Elite 250.

Oh oh.  A real response.


5150

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Subject: Re: Helmet forehead welts & itching
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:35:13 GMT

gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) says:
> Does anyone have any suggestions [valid, not vapid :-)] on how to alleviate
> the forehead welts and itching from certain helmets during long trips?

Sure.

1) put the helmet on. note the tight itchy spots.
2) remove the helmet and get a hammer. carefully beat on your head
   where the tight spots were.
3) this will create some extra clearance. put the helmet back on and
   go for a ride.

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
From: rkb@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: And bike covers
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:34:29 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Ah, another bestowment of my fountainhead of wisdom, and I don't even drive a
cab.


This is on bike covers.   There are some of us po' workin class folk who ain't
got no garage or car port for our ride (only form of transport).   Some of use
try to fit covers to prevent Morning Wet Ass Syndrome, or Bird Shit Bonanza,
etcetera, etcetera.

   I have used a sheet of window plastic and a blue plastic tarp before I
bought a cover.   I got aDry Rider Deluxe version, which Nadine promptly
scapped up for her '85 Maxim (cos it's a year younger than mine, natch).   I
then got another one of these from Chaparral, and it SUCKED!
   They sent me a non-water resistantised one with cuts in it.  Of course, by
the time I realised this, it was already used and I couldn't return it.   I was
mightily POd.
   So then I bought a Dow Guardian sport size.   It is very tight, which is
okay, but iot is not designed for bike with bar mounted mirrors, as this makes
the cover pull in an unusual way and expose the vent to let water in.   ARRGH!  
I also had to seam sealer the stitching to keep it from leaking.

MORAL: The next place I live WILL have a garage.

Cris Bare  '84 VF700F   '72 T500 (need that carb....)
 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: Goof2 Stolen at Gunpoint
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:26:30 GMT

>
>For some reason, there is a widespread desire to believe that law-abiding
>citizens are somehow routinely victimized by a conspiracy of "liberal" 
>judges and their allies who favor the "criminals."  In fact, anyone with
>much experience with the judicial system recognizes the biases tend to
>run in favor of the police and middle-class whites and against the poor
>and people of color.  Remember Rodney King?

The problem with our judicial system has nothing to do with too much
respect for criminals, probably.  The real problem has to do with a
bunch of "insider" bastards who do each other favors.  Me in court for
a ticket - "Boy do you realize you could have killed hundreds of people
doing 60 in a 55 mph zone on Christmas day with empty roads."  Where as
a local ****head legislator who helped sponsor the NC seatbelt law got
a ticket for not wearing his seat belt.  He then got the ticket dropped
by a friend.  He also tried to get the issuing cops fired.  Due to public
attention, he DECIDED (I would not have been given the choice) to pay
the $25.

THIS DOES HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH MOTORCYCLES.  The same type of people
pass helmet laws and laws restricting Motorcycles from certain areas.
What do you want to do about it?  I'm finding out about the AMA.  Does anyone
else have a tea spoon of anger hidden under gallons of apathy?  Any other
ideas.

Jack Waters II

I keep my bike cover up so water will not get onto it.