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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: brainwashed
Date: 28 Dec 92 08:18:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.ofDoHfK00iV2E1do0E
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Ms. Shirley Cheung writes:

.

>First of all, I am not Japanese.  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I knew this!

>First of all, I am not Japanese.  It was the American article called
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>"sexism in Japan" that sparked me to search more info about this country.

Obviously, your not American either fore you would know that you should
not believe everything that you read in American papers!

>Today, I can come up with a final conclusion of how REAL Japanese are:
> 
>1. They are extremely narrow-minded in terms of racial, sexual, linguistic
>issues.

I agree with this opinion! But, I have to say from my past life's
experiences we
do give "special" perferences to the Caucasian. Especially, those from
North America and Europe. I stopped this and all perferencial
"conditionings" long ago. If I look through my mind's eye I can see a
tiny representation of you.(This is not witchcraft. Just high
intelligence)I see..I see. Oh! That's frighten! I know that's not
you.(now hold on I only did this a couple of times.) Oh! I see that your
character is highly influenced by Caucasians culture. Many times, I saw
you deny your own cultural heritage. You don't want to be Chinese. You'd
rather be..is it Beth? I can't make out the name. Well, this is too deep
for me.

>2. Their "social" mentality is at least 20-30 years behind North America

I agree with this in part. Maybe, Black America!

>3. They have been EXTREMELY "damaged" by the evil act of their own
>TRADITION of  "brainwashing". 

Would you be as kind as to describe what you mean by "brainwashing"? Oh!
Never mind! The connection is still up! Oh! I see. I see. Well, the
culture that you assert as being so far ahead of us is, in fact, the
motivation that gives Japanese the desire to fufill it's "way of the
promised people" 

> 
>4. HOPE?--> ONLY now that telecommunication has brought them "somewhat"
>closer to the rest of the world.

This vaguely has something to do with the rest of what you are talking about.
But, do see(no not that see), that you are interested in technology.
Good, this would be a great point in which to start you "reassociation
plan"!

You methods of statistical research says alot about your lack in
learning but shows also your huge desire to blame someone else for your
shortcomings. First, your method of statistical research. First, you hit
the stage with a preceively nice, humble question about Japaense women
in the work force(Nippon). Than, after you get a wide range of
responses(with which you requested only 'women"). Oh! wait! I'm wasting
my time. What's this! Champlain Regional College! Sorry,
but I think that Catholic schools are repugnant and I think that Canada
is one of the worst of places on this earth! Excuse me for responding,
please.
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Kodak vs. Fuji (was: DOES AMERICA SAY ...)
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:03:11 GMT

In article <BILLD.92Dec21131539@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM> billd@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bill D'Camp) writes:
>I am posting the following because a number of people asked me about
>my previous posting citing Kodak's defense against Fuji.  The
>information I am posting is from a lecture in a graduate business
>course, I do not know the source or accuracy of this information,
>although the professor claimed it was true.

[Much deleted]

>Fuji suddenly found themselves with a glut of film intended for
>domestic consumption and no revenue to finance the dumping of film in
>the US and were forced to back off of their assault on Kodak.  By the
>time Fuji's domestic market recovered Kodak had succeeded in
>establishing their Japanese subsidiary and were able to compete with
>Fuji on a more even basis.
>
>There was also some story which I had trouble believing about Kodak
>parking a blimp outside of Fuji's headquarters, level with board of
>directors conference room. 
>
>Has anyone else heard this story?  Can you remember details, like
>dates?
>
>I think that, if true, this represents an innovative way to defend
>markets and protect jobs.  Obviously, this won't work for General
>Motors, I don't think they can afford to give away free cars, but
>there must be other industries in which this would be a viable tactic.

Reminds me of how Pampers completely headed off Japanese competition. 

They entered the Japanese market in the late 70s, and dominated it, being the
only one of its kind. Several Japanese manufacturers moved into the area, and
took significant market share, knocking Pampers to about 20%. Instead of 
selling (as they were advised to do), they did some market research, developed
a diaper that, while not quite as good by our standards (much thinner, but
slightly less absorbant), was better suited to the Japanese household. And, not
being part of any distribution system, they did not have any extensive markups,
and could keep their prices lower than their Japanese competition. Result: 
Pampers now (as of 1989, that is) has a 55% share of the market in Japan. 
More important to them, they are keeping the Japanese so busy in their home
market, they have yet to enter the international market as any sort of force.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - Oh come on! You didn't think I was serious, did you?
From: YONEZAWA Tetsu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Are Japanese "yellow cabs" common?
Date: 27 Dec 92 10:02:17 GMT
Organization: SIC - EPFL

In article <1992Dec23.191459.5898@polaris.utu.fi> opaloneva@abo.fi (Olli-Jukka
Paloneva) writes:
>For some weeks ago there was in the biggest Finnish
>newspaper an very short article which was quoted
>somewhere about yellow cabs - Japanese ladies
>who remain unmarried to avoid male dominance
>and as strange birds they often leave Japan and
>go to Australia or USA to work, where they utilize
>fully sexual freedom with several males.
>
>Is that true - Is that common?
>
    Yes, that is true and that is truely common.
We, Japanese boys, cannot understant why but they,
some Japanese girls, say that we are less attractive
than foreigners.  (We don't say "I love you" so much,
we aren't strong....and so on.)
.
tetsu (But now I'm in suisse)
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Random Japanese words....
Date: 2 Jan 1993 05:02:05 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Since I made such a mockery of Japanese, I felt obliged to do the same for
Indo-European languages:

guiv bucseiba qichwusnp navsufo meeg
hejcuthu thage yuptije hik yotviwd
juth doa miljah miqkoph oobe
iqthy eqda shuwhviphy asqyethma phomis
losechdo qogwucho emshewvea ujpha riosha
awo ror iwqophwou to poippoi
moch ro go ochuhcey auk
sufwe kedphush lipphuewph sorchuphlg ushshit
tiwri uchshu natar jeqefa le
phukwe jaewu vesrwot voetu thetcov
cedo ker jitmol poeh sue
ho weoshpyi vu gejlek om
nesh chejqaty nu awinqu bichuvvpy
oshmnoy se hifdo choayki orgy
mom adwene geph thoik nula
fu paod ruvchaethy epphicchal medi
othi dudi mekku yu tiw
waphbuja ukkubiaj gelanitho chapanpua sanbarish
qoch vophme lamthuki phi phikivso
du qauwchos shovnathqo eymu cehiij
howu ra abduco suc menphessh
mowe shayoma phoksu ibupcict mithnov
waphiru ochdedfef hucowsug phi viththy
ehcow sakmist pivo siam witakqam
de uawthuchep fesi cedi sissem 

"sanbarish"!  Yeah!  sounds nice& masculine!  
"shayoma"!  Cool!  They otta replace that sorry Heisei title with it, such a
nice continuation to showa....
"orgy mom"?? hmm.....

Well, I've just started to learn C 3 days ago, and tinkering with it....
if this pikes your curiosity, let me know & I can e-mail the program list
to you....originally, I included x's & z's with equal frequency with all other
consonants, but the result sounded too Russian....I'm sure you can make the
program more efficient, for those of you C veterans....
From: thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Telephones in Japan
Date: 24 Dec 92 05:18:30 GMT
	<1992Dec20.091844.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> <3507@aegis.or.jp>
Organization: AIC Systems Lab., Sendai, Japan
In-reply-to: davidg@aegis.or.jp's message of 22 Dec 92 14:44:03 GMT

In article <3507@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

[...] 
 > Come to think of it, when I got the 0070 service they came out and
 > installed a Q-box (no extra charge) which automatically adds '0070'
 > in front of what you dial if it will save you money. 
 > 
 > Dave

Dave,

I've never heard of this 0070  service. Could you  please explain what
it is? Suppose one can test it for a while w/o  Q-box, by just dailing
0070 first, desho?

Thomas

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Achenoriko-Tang)
Subject: Re: Comfort girls?
Keywords: rape of nangking
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:56:10 GMT

In article <1ho168INN1cv@agate.berkeley.edu> jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.214852.25986@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.
>Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>
>What is more
>important is that descendants of those that commit atrocities be
>educated sufficiently so they will take up the responsibility to
>preventing it from ever happening again.  
>
>

I have to disagree with you here.  What is more important is that
the descendants of those victims be educated sufficiently so that
they can wait for the right opportunity for just revenge.

The only language that certain races in this world understands
is the language of brutality.  To prevent incidents like the rape
of Nanjing from ever happening again, you must make it very clear
to others that if you hit me with a stick, I will pulverize your
brain with a hammer.





Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:12784 alt.sex:40176
From: joemays@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Joseph F. Mays)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,alt.sex
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:25:33 GMT
Organization: Dept. of CS Ball State University Muncie IN


 
miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman ) writes:
>k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi) writes:
>>billd@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bill D'Camp) writes:

>>> I
>>> think it is a shame that more US companies don't use the same tactics
>>> as Kodak did in defending against Fuji.

>>I was under the impression that Kodak would
>>get killed becuase all of their competition (Fuji, Konica, Mitsubishi,
>>Agfa) had products that were vastly superior.  (I used to work in a
>>darkroom in the summers.)

>       Kodak makes most of its money in the medical imaging market.
>       It has something like 80% or more of that market, which is
>       much larger than the snapshot-picture market in your experience.
>       It dominates because of very high quality, in a market that
>       prefers quality to price.

Until the middle of last year I worked at AM Diagnostics, the last American
company making large high volume blood serum analyzers.  We survived all
the American companies through superior quality.  It is true that, as you
say, quality is more important than price in the medical equipment market.
I recall hearing Michael Goldman's statement many times when I worked
for AM Diagnostics.  I no longer work there because no one does anymore.
AM Diagnostics was wiped out, primarily by Hitachi.  Blood analyzers are
no longer made in the United States.

Ten years ago AM Diagnostics had the same share of the analyzer market
that Kodak has now.  It's amazing how fast things can change....

Joe


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: NHK Dramas on Videotape?
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:17:21 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <1992Dec30.165427.1820@island.COM> by fester@island.COM (Mike Fester):

> In article <C01zxL.6xp@NCoast.ORG> cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton) writes:
> >When I lived in Chicago during '84-'86, Ch. 26 showed a number of NHK serials.
> >I have most of Miyamoto Mushashi.
> 
> Also, Kinokuniya will order them for you. Not cheap, though.

A less expensive option (for those in civilization) is to try Japanese
oriented (no pun intended) video/bookstores.  If I remember correctly, Japan
Books in Chicago (Clark St., near Mongolian House) had quite a collection of
Japanese videos for rent.  I rented several Zatoichi and yakuza films.   Many
of them seemed to come off of television, so it's not impossible that they
may have some of the NHK serials that someone taped for them in Japan.

A speculative alternative for people in the Chicago area is Video Audio
Unlimited on Algonquin Rd. in Rolling Meadows.  They have an impressive 
collection of Japanese adult films.  They also stock a VERY impressive array
of Indian and Pakistani mass market films.  If demand were sufficient, they
might stock the NHK serials (and other general titles).  They're nice people
and have a large following with local Japanese and South Asian executives.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: Not a Myth at All
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:06:21 GMT

In article <42839@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> mcovingt@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington) writes:

> in the US the basic attitude seems to be "you're here,
>and in the US there are people of all kinds, so I'll assume you
>speak English"

  In the US, a communication skill in English appears be very important
for someone to be absorbed in the society. In addition, it seems also
important NOT to communicate in non-English. In the same building where
I work, there's a Japanese scientist who has been in the US for 20 years
or so. He knows I am a Japanese who can speak Japanese. He also knows
that I know that he can speak Japanese. However, he never talks to me
in Japanese. (When I came here three years ago, I first talked to him in
Japanese and he responded in Japanese for the first couple of minutes.
Then, he suddenly switched to English [with a relatively strong accent]
as if he had declared that he didn't want to use Japanese.) 

>	As for not expecting people on the street to give you free
>Japanese lessons - okay, this is true. But, in the same way I am not
>willing to give the woman at the kiosk a free English
>practice!

   Kiosk obasan would really appreciate your NOT giving lessons.

> It goes both ways.

   But in different ways. B-)

--Michiaki
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,misc.invest,misc.entrepreneurs
From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Subject: Re: Kodak vs. Fuji (was: DOES AMERICA SAY ...)
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:30:40 GMT

fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>Reminds me of how Pampers completely headed off Japanese competition. 

>They entered the Japanese market in the late 70s, and dominated it, being the
>only one of its kind. Several Japanese manufacturers moved into the area, and
>took significant market share, knocking Pampers to about 20%. Instead of 
>selling (as they were advised to do), they did some market research, developed
>a diaper that, while not quite as good by our standards (much thinner, but
>slightly less absorbant), was better suited to the Japanese household. And, not
>being part of any distribution system, they did not have any extensive markups,
>and could keep their prices lower than their Japanese competition. Result: 
>Pampers now (as of 1989, that is) has a 55% share of the market in Japan. 
>More important to them, they are keeping the Japanese so busy in their home
>market, they have yet to enter the international market as any sort of force.

	Having just come back from a week plus in Japan when diapers were an
	issue of overwhelming importance, I must report that Pampers is the
	most expensive of all the diapers.  It is only a little more expensive
	than most of the others, but it is 2 times as expensive as the cheapest.
	The quality of the cheapest is such that one would be better off using
	the "Yomiuri Shimbun" instead.  Pampers in Japan is over 2 times the cost
	of Pampers in the US.  All my wife's friends envied her for having a
	husband who insisted on Pampers - possibly they didn't know I was doing
	most of the changing of baby.  Long and deep conversations were held on
	this issue.

	For some reason, diaper services that handle cloth diapers are unknown
	in Japan.

	I can't help feeling there's some restriction on paper product imports,
	or else the US disposable diaper makers would "clean up" the market
	there. ;)

	- Michael Goldman

-- 
"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have
exhausted all other alternatives." - Abba Eban
	Disclaimer:  All views are solely my own & not the views of Acuson.
	<sun!sono!miklg>  or  [miklg@acuson.com]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: frank d. smith, jr. (fdsmith@csugrad.cs.vt.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Comfort girls?
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:40:29 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


on 28 Dec 92 16:57:35 GMT, achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jupiter) said:

> According to certain estimates approximately 300,000 Ameriasian
> children were produced as a result of the Vietnam War, and most
> of them were abandoned after the American withdrawal.  Since only
> about 50,000 American soldiers were killed during the entire war,
> this means that for each American soldier killed during the war,
> six Vietnamese girls were shamed for life.

> This means the U.S.A. wins the trophy for the maximal use of
> "confort girls".

i think you have rather exaggerated the similarity between the u.s. in
vietnam and japan in korea/china.  have you ever heard of a village called
mei lai (village name probably mispelled)?  this one (rather) small village
caused a MAJOR disruption in the u.s.  and you want people to believe in a
conspiracy of silence involving hundreds of thousands of people and covering
twenty or thirty years?  what about all of the news reporters who would have
reported something like this as quickly as they could?

i am sure that a lot of rapes occurred, of which a number of the victims were
murdered to maintain silence.  however, i doubt that anything organized ever
happened along the theme that you suggest.  i am sure that a LOT of
prostitution did occur.  sex is one commodity that sells even in time of war
and, unfortunately, war all too often leaves women with only one source of
money.

not everyone ignores this type of situation.  i remember several episodes of
the television show m*a*s*h dealt with subjects of this nature.  the stories
discuss the same type of concerns you mention:  prostitution, unwanted
children, death or transfer of the father, and the difficulty of getting the
necessary entry permits for the spouse and/or child to travel to the u.s.  in
all fairness to the m*a*s*h shows, they did a very good job of illustrating the
problem.  as occurs today, they also had no solution to the problem.  and this
was talking about the korean war (approximately 1953).

i also knew someone who married a vietnamese woman.  judging by the man's
apparent age, he probably was stationed in vietnam during the war period.
i know for a fact that the man was in the u.s. navy for several years.

i feel especially sorry for the unwanted kids.  they were usually ostracized
because of something beyond their control.

frank smith
fdsmith@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: UPS500@rhrz.uni-bonn.de
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Pilitical Science mailing-list, worldwide?
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:17:45 GMT
Organization: RHRZ Uni-Bonn


 
Hello everyone!
 
Being ralatively new to the Internet, I wonder whether a Mailing List
for students and teachers in Political Science exists, in fact, whether there
IS a certain number of fellow students in that disipline, having Internet-
access.
 
If there is,please contact me to tell me whether there are already Mailing-
Lists in which one can join to discuss politics amongst STUDENTS and TEACHERS
of that discipline and how to join.
 
If there isn't, I find it's high time such a list was created to be able
to exchange views on the ever accelerating "deroulement" of events in the
world today. From what I've seen so far, nothing like it exists up to this
point in time, yet the internationality and the mere speed with which
discussions could take place seem tempting.
 
If you are interested in newly creating such a list, please email me -
ups500@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de - to tell me
 
-> what your preferences of content would be for such a group and
-> whether you'd be ready to help in maintaining such a list.
 
Best wishes for 1993, Markus Schlegel
at RFWU Bonn (Germany)
Seminar fuer Politische Wissenschaft
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Article _Science News_ "Blame Elvis for Japan's competitiveness"

In article <1992Dec25.042744.21369@cbfsb.cb.att.com> wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
[reference to '50s electronics deleted, but...] (stolen :-) ).
>Archaeologist Michael Schiffer of the University of Arizona based 
>the above on research done by studying ...

Actually it seems to me that Japan already was an economic juggernaut before
the second world war. After all, all those weapons, fighter planes, etc had
to come from *somewhere*, and they weren't imported from the US.

Could it not be that Japan was an "economic miracle" waiting to happen, and
microelectronics just gave it an excuse?

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: brainwashed
Date: 28 Dec 1992 17:23:26 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

In article <1hjvodINNhf5@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu 
(Henry Robertson) writes:

  >themselves and everybody else.  NHK anchorwoman whats-her-face does the
  >American thang, by being mother of a 4-year-old daughter & evening
  >newcaster.  But, given Japan's work ethic, the number of hours she has

I believe you are refering to Kuroda Ayumi.  Tokyo U. grad
extraordinaire.  But she still bows twice for each time Kawabata-san 
(the male anchor-dude) bows, and she sits offset and BEHIND him.
 
Jaa, James
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