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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:16:37 EDT
From:         Greg Giagnocavo <73060.1472@CompuServe.COM>
Subject:      Mac LC II and Apple IIe Software

Apple Computer has a little-known subsidiary called APDA, associated
with the Apple Developer's Group. For answers to odd-ball or
hard-to-find-answers-for questions, you might try the following:

APDA (800) 282-2732; in Canada (800) 637-0029; or +(408) 562-3910
Their Developer Support Center is (408) 974-4897; FAX (408) 562-3971

Or, For referral to an Apple User Group near you (800)538-9696

APDA is really the Developer Group order line for special, technical
products, but they do answer questions, and may be able to  at least
point you in the right direction. My experience is that they are not
the most friendly bunch, though, and I have had to let the phone ring
many times on several occasions. At least call and get their catalog.

The IIE card for the Mac LC allows ou to skip any dealings with Apple
File Exchange using ProDOS diskettes, and allows Mac documents to be
saved in AplleWorks 3.0 format. For all intents and purposes, the IIe
card makes your Mac act like an Apple II. Use all your Apple II
software, and don't worry about losing the last (only) slot on your
Mac- the IIe card takes care of this through software control.(Apple
-800-776-2333; list price is $199)  If you still use Apple II
computers, or have software and want to use it, and find out all about
II or IIgs software, call Apple and ask for their free catalogs.
To order at a discount, call Quality Computers 800-777-3642; Educators
may wish to ask for their free ENHANCE educational nesletter (really a
disguised catalog, but with lots of good info)

For a humungous (four pound+) catalog of Mac Eductional Software, call
Apple and askfor the Apple Access Macintosh Educational Software Guide
#M1068LL/A. The list cost is $19.95 which is worth it, but prove that
you are with a school/or other institution and they'll probably send it
to you for free.

Gregory Giagnocavo
National Education & Technology Alliance
g_giagnocavo@acad.fandm.edu
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:14:51 EDT
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Subject:      ERIC newsletter (fwd)

Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:29:54 EDT
From: "Mike Eisenberg, Syracuse University" <MIKE@suvm.acs.syr.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list LM_NET <LM_NET@suvm.bitnet>
Subject: ERIC newsletter

ERIC/IR UPDATE is the semiannual newsletter of the ERIC Clearinghouse on
Information Resources (of which I am Director).  The scope of ERIC/IR
covers both library and information science and educational technology.
Along with highlighting current developments in these areas, regular features
of the newsletter include THE PRACTITIONERS' CORNER, a sampling of user-
oriented material from the ERIC database, the MARKETPLACE, a sampling of
commerical publications relevant to our audience, and a listing of all
current ERIC/IR monographs, free digests, and mini-bibliographies.  (THe
free materials only require a self-addressed stamped envelope).

Interested in receiving the newsletter?  Only $99.95 to subscribe...
JUST KIDDING!!!! It's free!!!  Simply send a request to be put on the
ERIC/IR newsletter mailing list along with your name and address to:

ERIC@SUVM.ACS.SYR.EDU

............Mike

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Mike Eisenberg                                INTERNET: MIKE@SUVM.ACS.SYR.EDU
Associate Professor, Director                    PHONE: 315/443-4549
ERIC Clearinghouse on Information Resources        FAX: 315/443-5448
                        School of Information Studies
                              Syracuse University
                              Syracuse, NY  13244

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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:10:13 EDT
From:         Cheryl Wissick <N230149@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Justification for internet

All of us who use the services of the Internet know the value but to
some of the administrators at technical schools, the cost of the
internet connection seems worthless!!!  So I have been asked to assist
in gathering more information that they might deem important enough
for the connection.

The state Technical schools in South Carolina are all linked with their
own network but it doesn't connect to anything else!  Therefore with my
account at the University of South Carolina, I cannot send email to
my colleagues at the tech schools.

The tech schools are all connected by the State Board for Technical
Education.  Some of their employees have discussed that the internet
connection would provide access to databases, bitnet lists and other
resources but the administrators still do not see the need as they
see their system as sufficient and providing the needs for state
reporting options which they feel they would lose security if they
used an internet system instead...

This is a brief background that I received at a meeting on Wed..
we'd appreciate any comments, suggestions.

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Cheryl A. Wissick, Ph.D.
Director, Educational Technology Center
College of Education
University of South Carolina

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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 11:47:43 EDT
From:         Rick Lakin <rlakin@eis.CalState.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mac LC II and Apple IIe software

When the LC was first announced,  Apple released a card that goes in the
LC that runs Apple ][e software.  The card costs between $150 and $200.
In addition it allows you to hook up a 5.25" drive.
					Rick Lakin
     rlakin@eis.CalState.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:14:02 EDT
From:         Gary J LaPointe <21757gjl@ibm.cl.msu.edu>
Subject:      Re: Mac LC II and Apple IIe software

>Anyone out there running Apple IIe software on a Mac LC II?  I heard a
>rumor that the Mac LC II must use System 7 but the Apple IIe software is
>incompatible with System 7.  Can anyone give me a True or False from
>personal experience?

I JUST got a classic II and it does not seem to be able to use system 6.0.8
or 6.0.7, has anybosy else heard of this or seen it happen?

Gary J LaPointe   :^)

Michigan State University
21757gjl@ibm.cl.msu.edu

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"You are the bows from which your children as living arrows
 are sent forth" - K. Gibran, 1923
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:17:55 EDT
From:         TEDUPUIS@HANNA2.NLU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Mac LC II and Apple IIe software

We are in the process of setting up a FrEdMail node at our school using a Mac
LCII. The FrEdMail BBS software requires the use of an Apple IIe card since it
is IIe software. Is it possible to run IIe software and Mac software at the
same time, that is, do multi-tasking with the two different systems at the
same time? I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has information since
this would free another machine for networking if this is possible.

Ron Dupuis
Scotlandville Magnet High School
Baton Rouge, LA
Internet: tedupuis@hanna2.nlu.edu
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:18:25 EDT
From:         CLKREY@OA.STKATE.EDU
Subject:      RE: Bangkok Project

Moderator's Note:  Gleason, there seems to be some confusion about
whether EDTECH list folks can participate in this.  (See the two
notes I just received.)  Before the rest of you write and ask me
to resolve it, could someone find out from the principals and
post a clarification about how participation in this Project
should work.  Thanks /Vickie Banks
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Gleason:

Does this mean I won't have to join DEOS-L to participate?

Cyndy Krey
New Pathways
clkrey@oa.stkate.edu
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:10 +0800
From: IANHART@HKUCC.BITNET
Subject: Re: Bangkok Project

I, for one, would be very interested to monitor this exercise, but as
this is a forwarded message from Gleason I'm not sure whether this
list is included. Can the list manager enlighten us?

Ian Hart
Centre for Media Resources
University of Hong Kong
ianhart@hkucc.hku.hk
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:19:13 EDT
From:         Gleason Sackman <sackman@plains.nodak.edu>
Subject:      [soc.roots] Family History Help (fwd)

Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:31 EST
From: KIDSNET MAILING LIST <KIDSNET@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
To: kids-l@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Subject: [soc.roots] Family History Help

Date: 6 Sep 92 08:26:04 GMT
From: Steve.Hayes@f20.n7101.z5.fidonet.org (Steve Hayes)
Subject: [soc.roots] Family History Help
Newsgroups: comp.archives

Archive-name: auto/soc.roots/Family-History-Help

The following is available by anonymous ftp from hallc1.cebaf.gov.

It is available for file request from Fidonet 5:7101/20 at 2400 bps or from
5:7101/22 at 9600 bps

FHH130   ZIP    63103 92-07-03 20:01 Family History Help v 1.30

This is a hypertext tutorial program on how to trace your family tree. It is
a kind of interactive FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) file, and will be
useful for anyone who is just beginning, or who would like to begin tracing
their family history, but does not know where to start.

It could also be useful for more experienced genealogists and family
historians who want to trace immigrants from another country. It deals with
international family history, and has information about several different
countries.

--
INTERNET: Steve.Hayes@f20.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:29:55 EDT
From:         PROCTOR@sask.usask.ca
Subject:      Re: Authorware Professional Help

Hello Don,
I have been working with Authorware for the last couple of years.  It is
a good graphics & text manager, but lacks any significant documentation
on the interactive capabilities.

I think it would be a good idea to establish a special interest group.
There is one on CompuServe, but there has not been too much activity
lately.

Let me know what the response has been to your suggestion of establishing
an Authorware listserv.

Len Proctor (proctor@sask.usask.ca)
Department of Communications, Continuing & Vocational Education
University of Saskatchewan.
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 16:11:49 EDT
From:         Bill Byers <BYERS@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Visual literacy interest group

Andrew; Your response to Denis Lemay's query regarding visual literacy sounds
like semiotics. ...visual literacy being an 'interesting perspective on
media analysis."  I haven't been on the forefront of VL and hence not in the
know. When you have a chance I'd welcome your comparison/contrast between
them.
Bill Byers
Wbyers@ecn.mass.edu
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:53:54 EDT
From:         Richard Everman <reverman@ka.reg.uci.edu>
Subject:      Re: Justification for internet

> All of us who use the services of the Internet know the value but to
> some of the administrators at technical schools, the cost of the
> internet connection seems worthless!!!  So I have been asked to assist
> in gathering more information that they might deem important enough
> for the connection.

Cheryl and fellow EDTECHites:

I am a member of an AACRAO (American Association of Collegiate Registrars and
Admissions Officers) subcommittee called SPEEDE.  SPEEDE, along with a
subcommittee from the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO) designed an
EDI Student Educational Record (Transcript) which has been approved by the X12
committee of ANSI as transaction set (TS) 130.  TS 130 covers pre-K through
postsecondary transcripts.  It also includes health, demographic data, etc., for
pre-K through 12.

The EDI standard will have a major impact of reducing the cost of sending and
receiving students' records if there is a standard and cost effective net to
send/receive them over.  (For those not familiar with EDI, EDI acts as a
metaform.  The sending transcript is mapped to the TS 130 format, sent over the
Net, a VAN, on tape, etc. and received by the designee.  The receiver takes the
TS 130 from an electronic mailbox, tape, etc. and maps the data to the local
students' record format.  Since, EDI is a structured format, the receiver can
computer process the transcript:  admission evaluation, electronic filing,
articulation, etc.)

Security over the Net is possible.  Along with TS 130 is TS 131.  TS 131 is a
mandatory acknowledgement of TS 130.  It includes a control number generated by
the sender, data/time, gpa, units, highest degree granted, etc.  Software at the
sending institution matches the TS 131 with their audit trail.  If it matches,
fine; otherwise, a human investigates why not. (As a side note, the idea is for
the respective associations to have an electronic address directory for all
education sites.  This would go away when the X.500 (or whois) public white page
directory is available.  The public directory would have a field for the public
key used in the digital signature.)

Speaking for myself, SPEEDE has not recommented any one net, I believe the
Internet is the best choice:
  It is a fixed cost; it is less costly than VANs.
  It is pervasive; someday all educational institutions will have a connection.
  It will provide a common vehicle for all campus communications.
  It will be MUCH easier to send/receive international students' transcripts.
  Security on documents can be as good as you want.

AACRAO is sponsoring a TS 130 workshop in Baltimore, Oct. 18-20.  For more
information please contact:
William Ruiz
Director, System Engineering Services
University of Maryland
wruiz@umsa.umd.edu

Good luck with your administrators.

Richard Everman
Associate Registrar
University of California, Irvine
reverman.ka.reg.uci.edu
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:25:05 EDT
From:         Gleason Sackman <sackman@plains.nodak.edu>
Subject:      CUBACIENCIA (fwd)

xFrom: Juan Carro <cubacien@ceniai.cu>
xTo: Multiple recipients of list DEVEL-L <DEVEL-L@auvm.bitnet>
Subject: CUBACIENCIA

                    **** CUBACIENCIA ****

The Cuban Center for Electronic Information Exchange (CENIAI)
network is pleased to promote its services: toll free information
search through electronic service with CUBACIENCIA database for
promotional purposes. The service provided is basically in
Spanish.

CUBACIENCIA is concerned with the processing of scientific and
technological literature in

             * Medical and Biological Sciences
             * Agriculltural and Cattle raising Sciences
             * Exact and Technical Sciences

This database contains over 6300 references from Cuban Journal
articles covering as back as from 1987. It wile soon include
scientific dissertations, Cuban software, non published
documents, standards, patents, books, and brochures and other
documents.

To use our service please send your information request, from
whatever network you are linked to, to the electronic address:
cubacien@ceniai.cu, and in a real short lapse of time you will
find in your own mail box your request and the result of the
search.

Every record includes the bibliographic description of the
document and the author's abstract. The information search may
be performed by author, title, topic, source, etc.

CUBACIENCIA lets you know the topics processed in Cuba, which
institution are involved, the authors and the sources for
publication. Other additional information is the authors'
afiliations and if you so desire, we may arrange the contacts
with any institution of your interest.

Our address is:
Dpto. Sistemas Automatizados CENIAI
Prado y San Jose, Aptdo. 2069,
Habana 10200
Tel.: 620436
Tlx.: (28)511203 idict cu
Fax: 53-7-338212, 53-7-338213

Don't hesitate to contact us

Fernando Martinez
Dpto. Sistemas Automatizados
Mail: cubacien@ceniai.cu

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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:29:21 EDT
From:         JWILLIS@Jetson.UH.EDU
Subject:      Re: Authorware Professional Help

I would like to add my 2 cents to the comments about a listserv for
Authorware.  I think it is a great idea.  We use it here at the University
of Houston in our graduate classes and for development work.  A listserv
would be very helpful.
Jerry Willis,  College of Education, U. of Houston
JWILLIS@Jetson.UH.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:18:42 EDT
From:         TRULL@CL4.CL.UH.EDU
Subject:      RE: Mac LC II and Apple IIe software

We don't have LC II in our labs, but we do have some LC w/System 7.01
also running Apple IIe software that work just fine...

KJ
Trull@cl4.cl.uh.edu
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:48:35 EDT
From:         CLKREY@OA.STKATE.EDU
Subject:      RE: Bangkok Project

AEDNET will carry a summary of the discussion and transmit messages to the
conference as well.

Gleason, where are you?

Cyndy Krey
clkrey@oa.stkate.edu
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Here's a day brightner for you:

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                          The Electronic Bulletin
                                    of
            GLOSAS/USA and Simulation in the Service of Society

                  Email distribution: GLOSAS@vm1.mcgill.ca


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ISSN-1188-6307                 Vol.I  No.6                 August 1992
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In this issue:

[material deleted]


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4. THE COMPUTER PERSON'S PRAYER
   from John A. Barry's  _Technobabble_, MIT Press, 1991
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Our program, who art in
   Memory,
Hello be thy name.
Thy operating system come,
thy commands be done,
at the Printer as they are
   on the Screen.

                        Give us this day our daily
                           data,
                        and forgive us our I/O errors
                           as we forgive those
                        whose logic circuits are
                           faulty.

Lead us not into Frustration,
and deliver us from Power
   Surges.
For thyne is the Algorithm,
the Application,
and the Solution,
looping for ever and ever.

                        Return.


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