From: mine@iowegia.uucp (shelley kitsis)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 03:01:55 CST
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Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

> In article <-dtr5sq@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
> >
> >>Why is it any more of a close-minded criterium then any other criteria like
> >>intelligence, humor, physical characteristc, geographic location, level
> >>of education, lifestyle compatibility, sexual preference, etc?
> >
> >This argument, and others like it, smack close to hypocracy- 
> >Anybody remember the close-minded criterium of Mr. Wright? Your
> >arguments for religious restrictions in dating like that are identical
> >to Ed's arguments for his criterium.
> >
> >Substitute that one lady's griping of dating material with 'educated' for
> >'jewish' and 'surrounded by health-nuts' for 'surrounded by christians'
> >and the two arguments would be identical.
> 
> Superficially, perhaps, but only superficially.  While it doesn't require
> too great a stretch of the imagination to believe that a Jewish woman
> would be 'surrounded by Christians' in a medium-sized midwestern city,
> it is much harder to accept the notion that the entire female population
> of a large Texas city should use a bodybuilder-type paradigm as an 
> inflexible and absolute dating criterion.  I didn't notice any messages
> arguing her claim that a lot of people in her area are Christian, but I
> recall a lot of messages from both women and men disputing Edward's claim
> that all women would only date men who were very conventionally good-looking
> and muscular.  (Incidentally, I suspect that the criterion "Jewish" is
> slightly less restrictive than "must have a PhD in one of the following
> subjects....")
> 
> >And the argument against that is the same-
> >if you restrict yourself to a limited selection of dating material, then you
> >have no right to bitch that there is a lack of dating material that meets
> >your dating criterium.
> 
> Arguable, but "not having a right to bitch" has never stopped anyone
> before, so it's unlikely that it'll have much effect now.  Still, you
> may have some work ahead of you to convince the rest of the world that
> no one has a right to complain about the lack of available dating 
> material unless one would be willing to go to any bar in town and 
> accept the first offer, regardless of personality, appearance, sex,
> or criminal intent.
> 
> Trygve
> --
> "The first 90% of a given task requires the first 90% of the allotted
>  time.  The next 5% requires the next 90% of the allotted time."

Trygve,
I'm sorry I don't know you..you seem to have it all together (as 
opposed to a few others that have commented on this 
subject..namely, the "infamous" Mr. "R!" 
You, and the majority of the others took the time out to _read_ 
what I had written, and still respected (whether you agreed or 
disagreed with what I was trying to get across) my concerns! For 
this, I can only say "Thank-you!" (and that goes for all of you, 
with the exception of Mr. "rON"!) Now, he is another matter
altogether, and I don't mean to sound bitter or immature when I 
say, Trygve, "Good for you!" You did a great job of putting him in 
his place...I tried, but I'm sure it didn't have quite the impact 
that you did!
I almost feel like I was personally being attacked/violated by his 
uncalled for remarks....but, as the saying goes, "to each his 
own!"  Fortunately, I don't think that the are many of "his type"
out there! (Oh, how ignorance is bliss, Huh?!)
I just wanted to take this time out to thank both you and Meloney 
for standing up to this, (sorry, but I don't know any other word
for it) "Pig!" I think I mentioned that the original post was the 
very first one I had ever put out....sure didn't expect the uproar 
I've seemed to have caused!  Thanks to most of you, I'm not afraid 
to post again in the future....you gave me that courage!
Perhaps someday, Mr. "R" will be able to confront and live in the 
real world!!
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