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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Cats and Bunnies: Strange Bedfellows
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:41:58 GMT

Eric Williams (wd6cmu@netcom.com) wrote:

: I just read a book that quotes some studies that show that, if a kitten
: is raised for the first 7 weeks or so in the company of an animal that
: is normally preyed upon, say a mouse, it will not recognize that type
: of animal as prey even if it grows up to later prey on other types of
: animals.  Some kind of imprinting is involved, I guess.

Snowcat, Blackie, and Isis all get along with my 3-year-old mini-lop,
Sandalwood.  They even play chase! :)  I've never seen them fight.
--
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
seeker, therefore, is concerned with one thing only: to become aware of what
he already is, of the True Self within."  -- Zen maxim
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Kitten HATES Iams!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:28:20 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher

ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:

] Everybody was ranting and raving about Iams, so I decided to give it
] a try.  I went out and bought this enormous bag.  The thing is,
] the kitten WON'T EAT IT!!!!!  She HATES the stuff!!  Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!
] 
] Is there any way to fool her into eating this stuff?  Or should
] I just give up?

Yours is not the only cat that doesn't care
for IAMS.  Mine look at me like they wonder
why I brought home a bag of volcanic ash...

Suggestion is that you get some baby food,
beef or chicken, and mix that in with the
IAMS.  There's usually no additives in the
baby food.  Use water if you can - or just
mix it in until the dry food has a coating.

And a suggestion for everyone - before trying
a new food, most pet shops now have sample
sized bags you can buy, or that they'll give
away, so you don't have this problem...

Diana
From: sarah@albnyvms.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat with bad breath
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:49:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: sarah.1992Nov10.064959.8853
Reply-To: sarah@albnyvms.bitnet
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of NY at Albany


 
It would cost me 6 dollars for a 6 week supply PER CAT!!!
 
Is there a homemade toothpaste for kitties?

Sarah, ever broke
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: What to name a male BLACK kitten...
	<1992Nov10.215917.24823@pony.Ingres.COM>
	<1992Nov10.232409.28500@u.washington.edu>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:50:34 -0400


>>> Well, I've loved reading what you've all thought about male
>>>  white kittens, how about male Black kittens. :)
we named ours kim, after the (also black male) cat in fritz lieber's story
"ship of shadows".  later expanded to "kim the dreaded hamwort" from the
kliban cartoon, and eventually mutated to "kimmy".

-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: gt3791a@prism.gatech.EDU (JOHNSON)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Argh!
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:55:21 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I tried to post this previously, but it apparently didn't work.  My apologies
to anyone who has already seen this...



Argh!  I have an 8 month old kitten, Frisky...I made her an appointment a
couple of weeks ago to get spayed, but the first appt I could get was for
the 20th of this month.  Now she's started going into heat.

Is there anything I can do to ease the symptoms to keep us both sane until
she goes to the vet?  Her yowling at the windows (yes, thank goodness she's
an indoor kitty) wanting to get out is pitiful and making me lose sleep
(poor thing, I'm sure it's not fun for her either).

Please reply to mongoose@jablab.gatech.edu.  This account is the only one I
can post from, but it's not my email acct.  Thanks in advance.


					nora



-- 
						M. Johnson

Department of Chemistry, Georgia Institute of Technology
Internet: gt3791a@prism.gatech.edu  or  harle@jablab.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vmp@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Valerie Pierce)
Subject: Re: Weird cat treats
Organization: Loral Aerospace
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:24:46 GMT

In article <5692@sumax.seattleu.edu>, sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth) writes:
> 
 My cats like to lick the lids from the yogort containers.  What they 
really love is corn on the cob!!!  They follow me around when they 
smell it cooking and sit and stare at me until I give them some.

-Valerie (Proud "MOM" of Rascal and Raggamuffin)  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vboynton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Virginia R Boynton)
Subject: Re: help! how do I keep this cat out of my closet
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:06:58 GMT

In article <1dh5htINNa3a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. N
elson) writes:
>
>   Recently Spanky has gotten to the stage of "isn't it fun to
>get into the closet and dangle from mommy's velvet/silk/anything
>expensive dress?" The closet is a typical double sliding door
>type. I can't find a way to keep him from opening it! There
>isn't anywhere else in this matchbox (apartment) to keep those
>important items, either.
>
>   At six and a half months he is entering the most playful
>adolescent stage, so this isn't going to stop anytime soon,
>either. And I absolutely refuse to declaw him. Any ideas
>about how to keep the closet inaccessible?

How about using a couple of rods to keep the doors from sliding?  Along the 
lines of what people with sliding doors to the outside do to keep burglars out.
 Maybe you could put one rod between the inside door and the wall, and another 
between the outside one and that wall.  Or am I misunderstanding the kind of 
closet you have?  Another possibility would be to concede the closet to Spanky 
but keep the expensive dresses in clothing bags, to protect them, if nothing 
else.

Good luck!

Ginny
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 13:22:35 -0500 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: "weird" cat things


I really enjoy all the posts about unusual and weird cat activity.  It
makes me realize Gracie is NOT all that strange.  (She's actually quite
laid back and doesn't do anything really weird; I think she's pretty
typical when she plays with her Pounce treats and inspects her litterbox
after a major scrubbing by mom.)

She did something the other morning that I thought was kind of peculiar.
After I had made the bed I went into another room.  When I returned to the
bedroom there was a big lump in the middle of the bed.  Gracie had crawled
under the spread -- only thing was the spread was not ruffled at all.  I
have no idea how she did it without disturbing anything.  She stayed under
there for about 30 minutes.  When I was leaving for work I decided to coax
her out -- her body was so hot from being under there.  I had this irrational
fear that she would suffocate (as if she couldn't go right back under there
once I was gone!).

She often sits under tables and chairs or behind the tv, but this was new
one.  She has also sat in her covered litterbox, although not for that long.

Anna
From: schiles@valentine.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Thanksgiving Holiday
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:30:12 GMT
Reply-To: schiles@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I am going out of town for 5 days at Thanksgiving.  I am concerned about
my new kitten and am seeking advice on the best situation for her while
I'm gone.  I had thought I'd leave her at home.  I've contacted a pet
sitting service who will come by my apartment once a day for about a
half hour.  The sitter said she would give my kitty fresh food and water
and play with the kitten or cuddle -- depending on what Missy wants to do.

Is this a decent solution?  I could try to board her, but I just can't
imagine her sitting in a little cage for that long.  I know she'll be
lonely while I'm gone, but at least she'll be at home with all her
familiar things.   Does her staying at home with a sitter checking in
seem like a reasonable solution?

The sad mom,
Suzanne

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From: jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: JELLO PUDDING for cats?
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:33:51 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Nov10.210536.1638@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
>Another question concerning Zeb for all you cat wise people! :-)
:
:
>I know this pudding has two cups of whole milk in it and that she loves it! 
>But I am wondering if the artifical coloring or something else in the pudding
>is bad for her? So far I have been rescuing my pudding from tiny cat tongues
>but is that really necessary (aside from the fact that I WOULD LIKE SOME TOO!)
>
My cats both get extremely sick when they get any milk.  I don't think
you need to worry about calcium sources for Zeb - are you sure it is good
for her to get milk?  Watch her stool...
  
--j
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mpiet@is.morgan.com (Mark Pietrasanta)
Subject: Re: other monsters....
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:37:35 GMT

In article <BxAxsz.62u@encore.com>, dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov5.195440.9670@noao.edu> morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin) writes:
|> >
|> >Chessie also reeeaalllyy likes the Crispy-Rustley Paper Balls I make by
|> >crushing pages from my old TV Guide. I find them all over the house,
|> >under furniture, behind the TV, in the cabinets!
|> 
|> Yeah, and don't even try to use some other paper...Timmy will
|> sniff then turn his nose up at anything but TV Guide glossy
|> paper wads...
|> 

And then there's the related ATM receipt monster.  When I'm balancing my
checkbook, and I start a pile of crumpled ATM receipts, somehow Kafka & Spock
know that the more of these nasty receipts that pile up, the more it seems
to eat into the amount of toys they get.  So, they attack them, carry them
around the house in their mouths, and eventually bury the dead ones under 
the couch.

Mark Pietrasanta - mpiet@is.morgan.com

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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: help! how do I keep this cat out of my closet
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:08:35 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

vboynton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Virginia R Boynton) writes:
> at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. Nelson) writes:
>>
>>   Recently Spanky has gotten to the stage of "isn't it fun to
>>get into the closet and dangle from mommy's velvet/silk/anything
>>expensive dress?" The closet is a typical double sliding door
>>type. I can't find a way to keep him from opening it! There
>>isn't anywhere else in this matchbox (apartment) to keep those
>>important items, either.

> How about using a couple of rods to keep the doors from sliding?  Along the 

A tension rod, like a spring shower rod, ought to to do it.

Another possibility, if these are wooden doors, is to drill a small and
inconspicuous hole through the doors where they overlap when they are
closed, then slip a long, thin nail into the hole so the doors can't
be moved.

Kinda like the method of drilling into wooden double-hung windows to
make them burglarproof.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats on Long Car Trips
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:34:14 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1992Nov5.134200.193@inet.d48.lilly.com>, Gretchen K. Alspach <alspach@lilly.com> writes:
> 
> grandkitties!)  The trip will be about 5 1/2 to 6 1/2 hours
> depending on the weather.  They have never been in the car for more
> than 1/2 hour at a time (to go to the vet) and Dempsey cries like a
> baby the whole time.  Any suggestions for making this trip as
> painless as possible for all involved?  What do I do about kitty pit

We moved here in March and drove from Illinois.  (15 hours)  Boo
had also only been in the car for vet trips and HATES it.  For the 
move the vet had me give him a mild tranquilizer before we left and then
he needed one about 6 hours later.  He slept most of the time, but got up to
drink water and I had a litter box on the floor in the back - he didn't
use it tho.  He also had me not feed him before we left. 

While it was dark out he slept on  my lap and after the sun came up (we
drove all nite) he slept under the seat of the van.

He was groggy the day we got there, but then he was fine.

gayle
 
p.s.  PLEASE be sure to have some identification on them.  Also 
when we were going to get out of the car i put Boo in his carrier
with a little dish of water.

E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
(201) 829-3950
From: adw@otter.hpl.hp.com (Dave Wells)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:50:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Cats that fetch
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats

Wasabe ("Jolly Green Giant"), our huge green (er, silver) torbie Maine
Coon "kitten" (10 lb at 8 months!) will happily fetch for me, but only if I
throw her own private section of lamb leg bone. It's quite a sight as she
lumbers across the floor having retrieved it - I'm sure the foundations
tremble as she falls approximately from large green paw to large green paw:
    rumble
    rumble
    rumble
    rumble
    <long pause>
    whoomf!
as she somehow heaves herself onto the bed, usually landing roughly the
right way up, paws before nose, etc. Then she drops the bone in front
of me and stares meaningfully. If I don't throw it immediately, she starts
yowling at me. Then she's off - whoomph rumble rumble rumble... (I'm sure
that one day she'll get the hang of being that large).

Dave
From: adw@otter.hpl.hp.com (Dave Wells)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:48:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Brave Missy and the Sock Monsters
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats

From: cczcole@mips.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole)
-(Suzanne Chiles) writes:
-|> So there was Missy the Kitten.  Alone in the house -- only 4 months old
-|> -- battling the savage sock monsters for the very first time.  

-What is it with all you people out there - what are we teaching our
-children?  here we are encouraging them to go out and beat the crap out
-sock/vacuum/tinsel/paper bag monsters [...]

I blame TV.

Sumac ("Tufty"/"Dill"), our brown tabby Maine Coon kitten, is an avid TV
watcher, despite my attempts to interest him in more wholesome traditional
pursuits. The other day he was watching an episode of "Voyage to the Bottom
of the Sea" in which a rampaging giant alien seaweed monster attempted to
take over the Earth. This obviously made quite an impression, as
    i) Sumac made several heroic attempts to save the planet by clawing
through the TV tube and
   ii) He later "recognized" our large Swiss Cheese plant as a reasonably
similar dangerous creature and, unequipped with a gamma ray projector,
attempted to slay it by climbing up it and jumping off repeatedly.

I'm seriously thinking of writing to the BBC and complaining about the
effects such programs have on impressionable kittens.

Dave
(actually, I blame the owners)
From: ballt@ucs.orst.edu (Teresa Ball)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Any Good "natural" food for cat beside canned one??
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:48:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxAx8D.K40
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU


>hui@apaturia.trl.OZ.AU (Alvaro Hui) writes:
>   I found that my cat is getting sick of canned & dry
>food and I want to give her some change....:) :)
>
>   Any good food recommendations beside those specially made
>for cats ( i mean those 'pet' food off the self )??

I recently finished reading "All My Patients Are Under The Bed"
by a vet whose name I forget.  In the book (a very good read, by the
way), the vet recommends giving cats only baby food.  I don't know
about ONLY baby food, but it probably wouldn't hurt to feed them
baby food as a change.

Terry
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: luanne@Pt.hq.af.mil (LuAnne Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: other monsters
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:29:58 GMT
Organization: Headquarters Air Force, The Pentagon Washington, DC

How about the evil, wicked milk ring monsters!  Mayhem breaks out when
one dares to intrude in Stimpi's domain.  It must be mauled, mutilated, and
slowly tortured until it's dead or another monster threatens the homestead!
From: davispa
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Still Looking for a Siamese Pet!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:18:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Nov5.231814.17871
Reply-To: davispa@OHSU.edu
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University

I sure am enjoying reading all the monster stories and messages about our
dearly beloved friends -- I would very much like to find a Siamese kitten -
male - Lilac, Blue, Seal, Chocolate - around 2-1/2 to 6 months old.  I'm in the
Portland area.  Doesn't anyone know of any available babies looking for a good
home?  
Thanx -- Pamela Davis -- davispa@OHSU.edu
From: vwp@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (mark.a.skala)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: That new clumping litter ...
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:02:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsk.1992Nov6.180204.27180
Reply-To: vwp@cbnewsk.att.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Network Systems


>>Ok.  I had to make sure I wasn't going crazy.  I checked the prices on
>>the stuff I buy and here it is:
>>
>>  In Austin, TX:
>>  Lasting Pride - $5.98 (22lbs) at Sam's Wholesale Club.
>>  Scoop Fresh   - $6.98 (16lbs) at the grocery store.
>>  Scoop Away    - $2.99 (7lbs) at the grocery store.
>>

The brand we use here in Mass comes in a 11 pound jug but we get _bags_
of refills for the jug at 10 pounds for $2.99.  I think it's Tidy Cat
clumping.

Mark A. Skala                            "Please conserve paper; write on
vwp@cbnewsk.att.com                       all six sides before recycling."
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From: jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh)
Subject: Re: Re: Cats that fetch
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:08:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.214330.1@acad2.alaska.edu> axpmw@acad2.alaska.edu writes:
>My Cat spy ...  

	[ some stuff deleted ]

... he can jump 7 ft in the air if you dangle the fetch toys ... 
>How high do your cats jump! Just curious.. (this can be a dangerous
>cat skill for the owner...)
>-- 

Pam,

Seven feet is pretty darn impressive.

When my Buddah (now gone) and Orson (mother and son, respectively) were in 
their prime, they used to love to chase crumpled up pieces of notebook paper.  
This was when I was in college, so there was always an ample supply of paper, 
and my fraternity house (Alppa Detal Phi) had great hallways to chase paper 
monsters down.  I used to sit at one end of the hall and toss the paper ball
about half way down the hall.  The cats would charge, and whoever got there
first would (soccer-style) bat the enemy to the end of the hall (opposite end)
and tackle and chew the enemy into submission.

After awhile, I got to keeping three or four papaer balls around, and soon the
chase developed into a two-way hunt (up and down the hallway).  The two
hunters would chase the first ball to the end of the hallway, then turn around
and wait for me to signal that the next victem was ready. Once signalled, the
two would charge toward me.  When they were about half-way to me I threw the
papaer monster in the air, about 6 feet off the floor.  Orson, the larger of
the two, could jump up, grab the paper in his front paws, and have it in his
mouth befor he hit the ground.  Buddah, however, couldn't get up to 6 feet,
but she did even better.  She frequently (not every time, mind you) would
jump to get the ball, miss it, but her momentum would carry her in such a
way that she ended up doing a backflip!!!  Yes, Buddah, the back-flipping
cat!!


Enjoy,
Jeremy




-- 
  (\_/)          " Love to eat them mousies,
  |* *|              Mousie's what I love to eat.
  \>Y</            Bite they little heads off...
   `U'               Nibble on they tiny feet."       B.Kliban `75
From: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Adamcik)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Kitty's 1st christmas!
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:06:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: rix.corp.sun.com

In article 1@kean.ucs.mun.ca, janet@kean.ucs.mun.ca () writes:
>Hi cat lovers!
>
>our cat (9 months in December) will be experiencing his first
>Christmas this year. Any suggestions how we can keep our Christmas
>tree and our sanity in tact?

Ah, christmas trees and kittens - what fun!

First, get the sturdiest tree stand you can find.  Next, decorate
only the top half of the tree - anything you put on the lower branches
won't last long anyway.  Finally, keep a squirt bottle handy to discourage
climbing.  

-Ann



Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper)
Subject: Re: Ok to feed tuna daily ??
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:12:25 GMT

I was under the impression that people tuna was
bad for cats, but that canned tuna cat food was
fine.
--
Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
"The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
                                           --Carlyle                        
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rusty@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Hall)
Subject: Re: Weird cat treats
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:30:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.214004.3466@borland.com>, eomiya@borland.com (Elliot Omiya) writes...
>Pounce smells like chicken broth to me.  It's just the right kind of aromatic
>for the cats.  Jestina loves the stuff.
> 
>Personally, I don't feed my cat people food, it's not really that good for 
>them.  Sorry, not preaching but I really don't know if my cat likes yogurt
>because I don't eat the stuff myself. ;-)
> 
>-=<EHO>=-
> 

I wish my cat was so cooperative.  Pounce and such go to waste since 
it is a cat treat.  I mean cat nip hardly phases her so she must not 
be human.
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