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From: dratzlaf@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Ratzlaff)
Subject: ProDOS System Date/Time
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 05:36:26 GMT


I'm trying to write a little BASIC routine and was wondering if someone
could help me.

I am trying to get ProDOS's date and time and keep it updated.  I looked
through some old programs and found the locations ProDOS keeps the time
in - 49043 for the hour and 49042 for the minutes.  My problem is 
ProDOS does not seem to keep it current.  How can I make ProDOS update 
these locations?  I am using a //c and a No-Slot-Clock.  I have misplaced
my NSC manual, it probably has what I need...

Any help would be appreciated very much.

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca/C Bug?!?!
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:37:41 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

nparker@cie.uoregon.edu (Neil Parker) writes:

>In article <bazyar.717969178@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>>   Best yet, bug the System Software group to add this functionality to
>>the system software. It's been lacking since the very first Apple II.

>If I'm reading the GS/OS manual correctly, then you ought to be able to do
>this with the .CONSOLE driver...

>1.  Open the file ".CONSOLE".
>2.  Turn on raw mode and no-wait mode, by using DControl on the .CONSOLE
>    device.
>3.  Use Read to get a single byte from .CONSOLE.  If a key was previously
>    pressed, it will be returned.  If no key was waiting, the Read will
>    return immediately with a transfer_count of zero.

  There's a LOT of overhead involved in this, but it's the only way.  I
actually wish the console driver would go away.  I wouldn't hate it so
much if it was reentrant, if the "add-your-own" I/O hooks worked, and
if it didn't jsl IncBusy.  On top of that, in RAW mode the console driver
has no way of providing a cursor.  Blah.
  At any rate, what I meant was that there ought to be a way to do
that from TextTools; there isn't, and there ought to be.  You can 
no-wait serial input through texttools, but not console. Huh?

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From: kpopple@imp.sim.es.com (Ken Poppleton)
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a 19 pin "D" connector?
Keywords: Non-standard
Reply-To: kpopple@imp.sim.es.com (Ken Poppleton)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:46:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.234626.6317@unlv.edu>, sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.135526.9419@ll.mit.edu> yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
> >	Where can I buy a 19 pin "D" connector??????
> 
> The only place I've come across that has 'em is Digi-Key...
> 

Try JDR Microdevices  1-800-538-5000
They have a Solder version 
	DB19P  $0.69  male
	DB19S  $0.75  female

I could not find any 19 pin D connectors in the Digi-Key catalog.
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From: chang@ee.ualberta.ca (Wuichong Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Question on monitor connection
Date: 4 Oct 92 20:09:00 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada


Is the Commodore's 1084s monitor RGB compatible with the Apple IIgs RGB out ?

Hope someone can answer me. Thanks.



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From: voss@i43s6.ira.uka.de (Stefan Voss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Lisp on an Apple II ?
Date: 2 Oct 1992 11:32:52 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: i43s6.ira.uka.de
Keywords: Lisp, programming

Hi folks !

Does anybody know about a Lisp implementation on an Apple II?
The only one I heard about is an implementation of the lisp dialect 
Scheme called GScheme. It's written by Jawaid Bazyar. But GScheme is no
"real" Lisp (well, at least no "real" Common Lisp). I'm thankful for any
information about this topic.

 -- Apple II forever --
	Stefan Voss
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From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Re: Amrit, C/C++
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:54:55 GMT

Jay Krell (jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu) wrote:
: >> Amrit; C vs C++
[helpful info on C and C++]

:   My responses to questions posted in public are getting long. Is this stuff
: usually sent in email or posted publically? I'm new to Usenet.

First of all, thanks for helping.  I would also like to thank the rest of you
who responded...I apprecaite it.

Anyway, you post to the net was fine.  I don't think anyone would mind.
Granted, it's not a specific II and IIgs question, but I don't think there's
anything wrong w/ it.  Some people emailed responses, but now others that were
wondering, or were just curious, also know.  ;-)

Thanks again

: jay.krell@cornell.edu

Amrit

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bk@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Bruce Kravets)
Subject: Strategic Conquest  HELP please
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/453-8726 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 05:33:13 GMT

The game I play most if Strategic Conquest.  Although I purchased several
of the games all of them seem to have the same problem.  As the game gets
more and more complex (each nation has a larger number of pieces) the game
slows down, and finally freezes.  It looks as if the program is running out
of memory.  Since I have six meg this can't be the problem.  My guess is
that the game is not able to recognize the additional memory.  Does anyone
know of a patch, or can tell me how to change the program to get it to
recognize the additonal memory?  

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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randolph Sopicki)
Subject: Re: Apple..
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 10:04:01 PDT

In <73027@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:

>In article <is70184@pro-ace.cts.com> midnight@pro-ace.cts.com (Midnight Wanderer) writes:
>>[...] Is Apple computer. going to come up with anymore system disks or was
>>6.0 the final chapter, other than bug patches??
>
>6.0.1 is in progress, but I don't have permission to talk about it in detail.
>We showed an early version at KansasFest in July.
>
>(It's -not- just bug fixes.)
>-- 

That sounds good! How about an approximate time frame for release?



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From: fhp0054@hq.dla.mil (David Jernigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple /// FAQs
Keywords: Apple ///, Software, Hardware, Sources
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:47:18 GMT
Organization: HQ Defense Logistics Agency/DASC, Cameron Station, VA

Well ther is interest in the /// after all of these years.  In fact,
there are still buyers for them for commercial applications.  I'm
looking for another for myself.  

I am volunteering to collect questions and answers for a FAQ on the
///.  New hardware accessories, software, etc.  Sources for parts,
repairs... 

Please e-mail contributions to djernigan@hq.dla.mil and I'll edit
and post/mail them from time to time.

Dave, 
If Apple calls the Mac an upgrade from the 386, is the /// a move up
for a Mac user?
;)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: Self-analysis on IIGS
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 03:12:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.100804.387@lrc.edu> rheinze@lrc.edu writes:
>I need some help.
>
>What are the keys you press on a IIGS to get it to do a
>self-analysis?
>Will this check all the memory for bad chips?

Since there seem to be some new people reading this group, I will post:

Apple IIGS Self-Diagnostic Test:
Simultaneously hold down and the release the keys Option, Apple, Control,
and RESET (with the little triangle on it).

It will work for a few minutes and tell you "good" or "bad", but is not
really very useful.
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From: foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: WANTED:  IIe aux slot memory expansion card
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:53:04 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep27.164211.16610@ornl.gov> rglarson@sacam.OREN.ORNL.GOV (Roger G Larson) writes:
>I would like to find an auxiliary slot based memory expansion card
>for my IIe.  If you have something, please email me at
>	rglarson@sacam.oren.ornl.gov
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Roger
Well, I tried emailing this address and received an unknown user reply, so
I'll go ahead and post it here.  I have a 1 meg board I'd be willing to part
with for the right price.  It's brand new, never even been plugged into the
computer (thus not tested either).  I can sell it fully populated or not.  
It's apparently an off-brand Ramworks (I) clone (has a sticker on the back
of it saying "licensed from Applied Engineering by...."  I have all
documentation, program disk, etc.

Michael Foegelle


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From: FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL ("ERIC S FORD")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: re: Identifying strange GS parts
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:08:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


>The GS often acts like the Apple and/or Option keys are being activated/
>deactivated.  Sometimes the machine boots into the self-test, or even the
>Screen-settings (like 50-60Hz settings, Alternate screen mode, etc...)
>If it's not doing that, it sometimes just starts acting peculiar, esp.
>in ProDOS 8 program (like ProTERM).  I cannot seem to locate part on the
>motherboard that would cause these problems.

This sounds a lot like the old malfunctioning joystick problem.  Do you 
have a joystick connected?  Since the joystick fire buttons are the same as 
the Open and Closed Apple keys (excuse my politically incorrect references 
to these keys but I started out in the old //e days) a failure of those 
buttons can often lead to the problems you describe.  I believe Proterm 
also uses those keys in some emulation modes.  

Eric S. Ford
forde@uvg.eglin.af.mil


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From: bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP (Austin Phelps)
Subject: UUCP for Apple II?
Reply-To: bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:18:51 GMT

I recently obtained the program that allows Proline sites to connect to 
UUCP sites to exchange mail.

Now I'm wondering is the program ProLine uses in public domain or 
commerical? If in Public Domain, which FTP site, commerical - possible 
place of purchasing?

Thanks for your help.

Austin C. Phelps            pick a address: bbs-aphelps@jwt
-> Tf3 <- elsewhere                         aphelps@vicstoy.oau.org
"Let History Never Forget the Name          business!152!Tf3
Apple II Forever! AAWO -{3303}-  ENTERPRISE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: 1.AppleTalk 2.Fax/Modems
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:40:05 GMT

grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:

[FAX software]

>From everything I've seen and heard, the software being developed for these
>FAX/modems  will SEND but will not recieve.  So it will be limited at best.
>Something about the pixel resolution being too coarse on the GS..

Hmm. More likely it's more work to put in receive FAX, also. It's true,
you would not be able to view the FAX on the GS's screen, but you could
scale it down somewhat, and require the user to scroll through it (like
we have to do with every wordprocessor document, anyway). Store it in a
proprietory format ;-), and print it to your Laser or if must be 24-pin,
that gives quite readable results. I don't see the problem.

I do see the problem of actually writing the software ... class 2 is a pain,
especially since it is not really standardized yet.

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kca@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (k.c.archie)
Subject: old Apple magazines available
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:36:20 GMT
Keywords: softalk

I have a bunch of old Softalk magazines that are taking up room
in my house. I know some people collect this magazine. It was probably
the best Apple magazine published. But it is gone and hopelessly
out of date and if anybody wants them, come and get them.
I don't really want to ship them so I prefer somebody in
the area (Western Chicago suburbs). 

If you are interested, contact me via email.
**kent
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kca@iwtqg.att.com
(708) 979-7343
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Getting a single keypress and random seeding
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:00:44 GMT

isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:

>I'm trying to read the time interval while waiting for the user to press
>a key so that I can use the delay has a random seed.
>The following code segment is what I've come up with:
>main()
>{
>	char c;
>	int a;
>	a = 0;
>	while (c=getchar()!=EOF)
>	  a++;
>	srand(a);
>}
>srand(a) initializes the random seed using the integer a.  But the above
>segment doesn't work 'coz the value of a is incremented only once.

There is no __STDC__ (tm) way of reading a single keypress w/o waiting for the
user to actually press that key. BTW, assuming getchar() would do that (read
a character w/o waiting), shouldn't the loop be 'while (getchar == EOF)' ??
Well, anyway, under ORCA you can read the keybd directly, under GNO/ME you have
a system call.

Sidenote: The rand() that comes with ORCA (and therefore with APW too, I
assume) is not too good. I recommend using the random lib that was posted on
c.b.a2 recently. Stay away from mrandom() until the fscanf () fix is out,
though :)

Soenke
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From: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Keyboard buffering save/set/restore.
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:26:40 GMT
Reply-To: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney

In article <72963@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.221904.480@fawlty.towers.oz.au> johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean) writes:
>>It looks like the best way to save/set/restore keyboard buffering (and
>>anything else that is editable throught the control panel) is to use
>>GETBPARAM to save current values, to use SETBPARAM to update the battery
>>RAM buffer with appropriate values, and then to call $E1/0094 to set the
>>system into the state indicated by the battery RAM buffer. [...]

>Problem is (as someone pointed out), the user might power down or forcefully
>reboot while your changed Battery RAM setting was in effect.  See attached
>GS Technical Note #106 for an alternative (with its own drawback).

Method as described in TN106:
>
>This Technical Note documents some bits in the ADB SendInfo data byte for
>setModes and clearModes.
>
>Note that the user's control panel setting will become current again if they
>hit Command-Ctrl-Esc (the system calls the TOBRAMSETUP vector at $E10094 to
>update the system from Battery RAM).

This is a REAL problem for my application (my DOS 3.3 Launcher), as users
are extremely likely to enter the control panel.
It's a similar case with the system speed - if I slow the system down to 1Mhz,
via any means other than the one I described for the keyboard buffering, as
soon as the user enters and leaves the control panel its back to fast speed
again.

John MacLean.
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From: gt1077c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt1077c JONES,MARK ANTHONY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Looking for IIgs Games
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:13:29 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Looking for the following iigs games


Rocket Ranger - Cinemaware
SDI           - Cinemaware                    
HeatWave      - Accolade
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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: II+ ROM
Date: 3 Oct 1992 22:31:37 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: jomby.caltech.edu

joe_luzzi@QMBRIDGE.CALSTATE.EDU ("Joe Luzzi") writes:

>There is a socket on my friend's II+ mother board labeled "ROM SPCL" and
>the chip number is 2716.  Can anyone tell me what this chip does?

It's the character generator. All the bitmaps for the various text characters
are stored in it.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: tcomtaob@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple II DSP card
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:47:48 GMT
Organization: The Internet

The following revelation escaped Curt Schroeder's lips:
> 
> What happened to this project?  Did it succeed?  Does it exist (if so, for
> how much)?
> 
> Please respond via email, because I currently don't have time to read the
> group (but I wish I could).

    Well, if someone *does* know, please e-mail AND post to comp.sys.apple2
since I would like to know too.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner)
Subject: Re: genie vs. aol
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:47:14 GMT

fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:

>I've just signed up for genie.  I am wondering, which ( aol & genie ) have a
>better Apple II file library?

Well, I only have a GEnie account, so I can't really compare (can't
get AOL up in Canada).  GEnie was voted for the 1991 Best Apple II
Online Service by the Apple II awards group.

They've got lots of files and lots of developers are on there.
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From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Resurrection!!!!!
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:59:51 GMT

Linda Catherine Havas writes:

>Still, though, the GS my friends are selling looks awfully appealing.
>So what are your thoughts? Do I continue pouring money into the
>IIc, which isn't really supported anymore, or do I just blow the
>big bucks and get a newer (and possibly more reliable) GS? 

  The GS has no more official support than the IIc, so you shouldn't consider
buying a GS for that reason!  And I wouldn't think that the GS would be "more
reliable" than the IIc (not that it would be "less reliable" either!).
  Essentially, you need to ask yourself: would a GS do more for me than a IIc?
If you are looking for a machine that has fantastic sound, then the GS is for
you (but be warned that there is very little software available that takes
advantage of the GS's sound capabilities).  If you want a machine that runs 2.5
times faster than your IIc and yet runs most (if not all) of your existing
software, then the GS is for you.  If you want a Mac look-and-feel than you can
have that too with the GS.
  But ultimately, if your IIc does everything you've ever wanted from a
computer, then there is not much reason to upgrade.  You may decide that the
money could be better spent elsewhere.
  What I'd say is this: have a play around with your friends GS and see whether
you like it.  Give it a test run and see whether it's worth the money.  I think
that's about the best advice I could give you.

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From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Fast modems FAX software for the GS
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:19:36 PST
Organization: BBS

Hum... I brought a Zoom v.42bis about a year ago.  It had no problem at all
with my IIgs.  I was getting v.42/v.42bis, that was with awgs's telecom module.
 I sold it, but James couldn't get it to work with his retrofit GS.  I don't
know if he ever got it to work.

Anyway, I brought a Zoom v.32bis last month, and so far, no problems at all. 
MacUser recently tested lots of high-speed modem, and the Zoom got a good
rating and it has the lowest price.  I have to admit I brought this because of
the price.  I got it from MacConnections, and it came with 30 day money back...
 but it worked flawlessly for the last whole month, so I am keeping it.

Later!

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
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