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From: dent@DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Dent)
Subject: Re: FileMaker Runtime Suggestion
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:30:27 GMT

Way back at the original (West Australian) FM Pro release I raised the 
runtime issue with the Claris guy.

He replied that it had been the subject of bitter "religious wars" wihtin
Claris and was a closely-lost decision.

Looks like nothing much has changed in the last 2 years...

Andy Dent (A.D. Software - Mac & VAX programming)
94 Bermuda Dve, BALLAJURA  Western Australia  6066
Phone/Fax: 09 249 2719 (local)  +619 249 2719 (International)
       Internet: dent@DIALix.oz.au    Compuserve: 100033,3241
From: niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Excel 4.0, DAL and Oracle databases
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 10:48:25 EDT
Organization: Heavy Objects R Us
Reply-To: chinchilla!niel@cars.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Nov16.195645.25100@netcom.com> (comp.sys.mac.databases,comp.databases.oracle), sjs@netcom.com (Stephen Schow) writes:
>We are attempting to make the slow transition to client/server.  
>Have you had any experiences with other Mac-based software that taps into
>Oracle?

Steve, we use ClearAccess and Excel 4 extensively in our shop.  Seems
to work great.

We've also used ORACLE's externals for 4D and HyperCard to build more
complex front ends.  ACI is working on ORACLE externals along the
lines of their DAL and Sybase externals, so that should be good.

Niel

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From: wb1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Matthew Beaver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Disabling Layout Objects
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:05:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Mf2=L8y00UhW40vlJB
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Is there a way to disable a layout object such as a thermometer or dial?
 I want to have a layout in which the user selects a radio button (ex:
Yes) and the thermometer in the layout is disabled.   If the No button
is selected, then I want the termometer the be activated again.  Does
anyone have any ideas on how to do this?  I tried the DISABLE BUTTON
command but this obviously does not work since the object is not a
button.

Also, how do you set the radio button default in the BEFORE phase of the
layout?  I want the yes button to be selected automatically (thus
deactivating the thermometer until the user selects NO).

ANY ideas are welcome.   

Thanks in advance.

William Beaver
Carnegie Mellon University
From: Leslie.G.Wardwell@dartmouth.edu (Leslie G. Wardwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: 4D Anonymous FTP
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:36:37 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a6@newshost.dartmouth.edu

I was wondering if anyone could post anonymous ftp sites containing any
public 4D externals, examples, tips, etc.

Thanks in advance
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane)
Subject: Re: Restricting selection
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:07:11 GMT

willson@seas.gwu.edu (Stephen R. Willson) writes:

>    Monday's baseball expansion draft got me thinking about a database
>question.  During at least the first round of the draft, no more than one
>player from each team could be taken by Tampa or Denver.  If I for some
>reason had setup a database of all the players eligible for the draft, how
>could I implement this restriction.  If one player from the Boston Red Sox
>has already been selected, how could I lock out selecting a second player
>from the Red Sox? 

the two ways that spring to mind immediately are:

1) every time a person is selected from the eligible list, remove all
his teammates from the eligible list.  that way it's not possible to
select someone from the same team because they are no longer available.

2) keep track of the players selected.  when a new player is selected,
search the selected players list to see if there is already someone
there from the same team before validating the new selection.

> Does a database program exist that makes such
>restrictions easy to implement?

i use 4th dimension, and i would find it pretty easy to implement
something like this, but that is probably because i have been using it
for 3+ years.

>  One particular application which I am
>interested in is evaluating economic proposals which are either mutually
>exclusive, mutually dependent, or mutually independent of other proposals.
> Does anyone have experience with designing a database for such an
>application?

sounds interesting;  but i haven't done anything like that before...

--mike
From: sprattli@azores.crd.ge.com (Rod Sprattling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Restricting selection
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:28:32 GMT
Reply-To: sprattli@azores.crd.ge.com (Rod Sprattling)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <1992Nov19.054912.5580@seas.gwu.edu>, willson@seas.gwu.edu
(Stephen R. Willson) writes:
|>    Monday's baseball expansion draft got me thinking about a database
|>question.  During at least the first round of the draft, no more than one
|>player from each team could be taken by Tampa or Denver.  If I for some
|>reason had setup a database of all the players eligible for the draft, how
|>could I implement this restriction.  If one player from the Boston Red Sox
|>has already been selected, how could I lock out selecting a second player
|>from the Red Sox?  Does a database program exist that makes such
|>restrictions easy to implement?  One particular application which I am
|>interested in is evaluating economic proposals which are either mutually
|>exclusive, mutually dependent, or mutually independent of other proposals.
|> Does anyone have experience with designing a database for such an
|>application?
|>

For a relational solution, create three tables: Team, Player and Contract.

Each Team record describes a team, and is indexed by TeamID.

Each Player record details a player, and is indexed by PlayerID.

The Contract table describes the relationship between Team and Player.
In SQL it might look like this:

create table Contract
	(TeamID number not null primary key
	 PlayerID number not null,
	 Draftable boolean);

If the Draftable bit is FALSE, then that player is currently under contract
to that team. If the Draftable bit is TRUE then the player is currently
under contract to that team but is eligible for the draft.

Set all Draftable fields to TRUE before start of each draft season.

The SQL-ish query

	select TeamID into :teamID
	from Contract
	where PlayerID = :playerID and Draftable = 'TRUE';

will tell you if playerID is available for draft.  If so, the statement

	update Contract
	set Draftable = 'FALSE'
	where TeamID = :teamID;

will mark the player and his team mates unavailable for further draft.
The final statement

	update Contract
	set TeamID = :newTeamID
	where TeamID = :teamID and playerID = :playerID;

will associate the player to his new team.

Surely there are other things one would want to capture in a bona fide
system such as draft round, contract history, and so forth.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: charlesa@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Charles Albrecht)
Subject: Re: 4D Anonymous FTP
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:55:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.173637.12334@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Leslie.G.Wardwell@dartmouth.edu (Leslie G. Wardwell) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone could post anonymous ftp sites containing any
>public 4D externals, examples, tips, etc.
>
>Thanks in advance

There is also a new site at bu.edu (/mac/4d) - the README.FIRST file follows.
Currently, it has the balloon help file that goes in the Preferences
folder for version 3.0 (help includes command syntax in the procedure 
editor), and a few other textual items.  It's being set up on a trial 
basis.  The other site that I know of is 'ftp.scri.fsu.edu' (/pub/4d).

-Charles (charlesa@ncar.ucar.edu)


Info from bu.edu 4d site:
ftp> get README.FIRST -

The 4th Dimension anonymous ftp site at bu.edu is being set up on a
six-month trial basis for NON-COMMERCIAL use.  Anything posted must be
free of charge.
 
Please send any comments or suggestions to:

==========================================================================
Karen R. Sabog                                    Internet:  kalena@bu.edu
Boston University Information Technology             Voice:  (617)353-2780
Personal Computing Support Center                      Fax:  (617)353-6260
111 Cummington Street
Boston, MA  02215-2411
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From: schultz@iastate.edu (Jonathan R Schultz)
Subject: Labels in Double Helix
Keywords: label helix
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:30:25 GMT

I'm helping out as friend who is printing labels on a LaserWriter from 
Double Helix. The labels are two across on the page, but he is only
printing labels on the first column. How can he set up Double Helix to use
both columns?

Thanks!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido)
Subject: Filemaker Pro question
Organization: VU Biology, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:15:57 GMT


Lately i have been working a lot with Filemake Pro 1.0b2. I think
it is a great program but there are still a few problems/questions
which I can't solve. Hopefully there is somebody out there who
can help me.


Is it possible in FMP 1.02 to 'link' files? So that if you press
button x you switch layout x in a different FMP file?

Is it possible to have the same field twice on a layout and to be
able to enter different data?(or have them auto-enter an increasing
number?) I know there are repeating fields but they make it only
more difficult. My example: Imagine an order sheet. 5 rows with
first an increasing number(autoenter?), then a desciption,price
etc.... If I use a repeating field there is no increasing nr.,
and if I just want to list the non-blank fields it always lists
all the 5 repeating fields whether they are empty or not.

But if I use a normal field multiple times then a value entered
in one field automatically shows up in the others and vica versa.

any help would be appreciated

etienne

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Distribution: world
From: Darren_E._Tong@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:19:30 EST
Subject: Filemaker FTP site

does anyone know if there is a filemaker pro ftp site where people can
get/share idead/problems/questions/files?

- BulkRate, the offline reader for FirstClass-darren_tong@fourd.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Distribution: world
From: Maury_S._Markowitz@magicbb.uucp
Organization: MAGIC - Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:00:24 EST
Subject: DAL database servers

  Does anyone have a list of DAL database server software?

Maury@softarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: hu@sparky.drad.umn.edu (Xiaoping Hu (Dr. Who))
Subject: Help needed on installing CAP (Columbia Appletalk Package)
Keywords:  CAP printer installation
Organization: University of Minnesota, Radiology Department
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:04:22 GMT

Hi, folks.

I am desparately seeking some advice on how to make a unix printer
act like a apple talk printer for ethertalk.  So far, I got the
appletalk part working.  In other words, the printer is recognized by
the appletalk.  However, when we tried to print from the mac, nothing
came out and we got some postscript error:

%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: F ]%%^M
%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%^M

We went back to the doc on lwsrv and noticed that "A generic problem with 
LaserWriter spoolers  is  that  the proper  Apple  dictionary  must  be 
downloaded to the LaserWriter..." and we also realized that we have
enscript intalled.  These may be the problem.  Would someone out
there who had experience with this particular matter give me some
suggestions on how to setup the printer and server properly?

Thanks.

X. Hu
U. of MN

hu@sparky.drad.umn.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: backman@vaxeline.ftp.com  (Larry Backman)
Subject: Re: Netware NFS and DNS
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:48:44

In article <1992Nov19.164044.19515@novell.com> mcollins@db (Marty Collins) writes:

 >> : 
 >> :  And while we are at it, it needs PCNFSD for the 27th time :-).
 >> 
 >> WHY?
 >> 
 >> If you have PCNFS then you must have at least one UNIX box
 >> somewhere on your network, and it can run the PCNFSD.
 >> 
 >> If you don't have any Unix boxes then it would be a waste to have PCNFS.
 >> 

as soon to be our ex-president has been heard to say...
"you just don't get it" :-)...

I give up.  I'm going out and writing another Netware server next week.
The last one was such a whopping success (over 20 copies sold) that
I should try again :-).  Your right; there's no reason for PC's to
want to run NFS against a Netware box.

Sad Larry

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: peterh@netcom.com (Peter John Harrison)
Subject: Re: CCmail-SMTP gateway recommendations
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:25:09 GMT

ceh@leland.Stanford.EDU (Carey Heckman) writes:

>>X-Gate is a cheap and easy to setup and use SMTP to MHS gateway.  Since 
>>CC:Mail is an MHS application, you might want to look into X-Gate (it's
>>also cheap).
>>===========================================================================
>>Peter John Harrison          1522 Day Avenue, #A, San Mateo, CA  94403  USA
>>peterh@netcom.com

>Oops, not quite.  cc:Mail has a gateway to the pre-1981 version of the 
>application interface to MHS (which means some important features and
>capabilities of MHS won't and can't be accessed), but cc:Mail has its
>own, very proprietary transport.  

Ooops.  I stand corrected (thanks).

===========================================================================
Peter John Harrison          1522 Day Avenue, #A, San Mateo, CA  94403  USA
peterh@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey)
Subject: Re: Help required with PDETHER on a NI6510
X-Disclaimer: These opinions are mine: others available on request.
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
X-Newsreader: GNUS 3.14.1
	<1992Nov23.064710.7756@novell.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:59:36 GMT


In article <KEVIN.92Nov20173542@calamityjane.edscom.demon.co.uk>
I wrote:

Me> I've got an NI6510 ethernet card in my PC.  I got hold of a packet
Me> driver for it from the Internet, version 9.1 by Russell Nelson, and
Me> I got PDETHER 1.01 by Don Provan of Novell.

Don Provan replied:

Don> Since this has come up several times in the last couple of weeks,
Don> perhaps i should take this opportunity to "remind" everyone that
Don> PDEther v1.02 is available on sjf-lwp.sjf.novell.com, in
Don> odi/pdether/pde102.zip.  V1.02 fixes a problem PDEther v1.01 had
Don> with modern IPXODI releases.

I've now got hold of version 1.02 of PDETHER and I get exactly the same
problem.  Versions of other things are:-

	LSL		1.21
	IPXODI		1.20
	NETX		3.22

Any more ideas?

TIA - Kevin
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From: drewo@dcatlas.dot.gov (Andrew R. Orndorff)
Subject: Re: Help required with PDETHER on a NI6510
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:57:48 GMT

	I too would appreciate help in this area.

	We're trying to do something similar with a DEPCA Turbo, using the
DEPCA packet driver and PDETHER, but have the same 'hanging' problem 
when attempting to use NETX.

	It should be noted that NETX doesn't hang when we configure the
packet driver with the '-n' option (for Ethernet_802.3 framing on IPX) -
just returns a 'server not found' error since we're using Ethernet_II
framing for everything here.

	Thanks much - and yes, we know about ODIDEPCA but can't seem to
get DEC to admit to itself that the driver exists (sigh).

	Andrew Orndorff

	NHTSA Data Center

	Internet: dcatlas!zeus.dot.gov!drewo@uunet.uu.net 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.dcom.lans
From: "Mun Kein CHANG" <p00196@psilink.com>
Subject: Intel Netport II Problems
Reply-To: p00196@psilink.com
Organization: Netband Technology (A Small Company)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:59:26 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

I've been experiencing extremely strange problems with Intel's Netport 
IIs and I'm wondering if anyone has come across them before.

I'm currently running Netware 3.11 on Ethernet. Most of my printers are 
connected to the lan via Netport IIs running as rprinters and pserver 
modes. However all of them will hang after a couple of days. The only 
way to recover is to reset the Netport and even then it doesn't work 
sometimes. There are times when after it hangs that I can't even 
discover the Netport II on the network via the config utility. 

Does anyone have any ideas what in the world is happening?

Thx and rgds,
Mun-Kein
p00196@psilink.com
From: bob@comlab.gatech.edu (Bob Baggerman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell vs. Lan Manager, which one do I choose?
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:08:18 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Wayne Wilson writes:
>  MY experience with LanMan on TCP/IP was from the first release of the
>product from HP, but I was very disappointed to find out that you could not
>place clients on the other side of a router port.  LanMan was basically
>implemented on top of NETBIOS and the TCP/IP implementation of NETBIOS that
>HP used  would not propagate the NETBIOS broadcasts through the router
>ports.
>
>  Has this changed since MS took over the TCP/IP support?

Again, I hope this is of general interest.  I feel a little funny writing about
LanMan on a Novell forum.

MS TCP/IP that shipped with LanMan 2.1 included extensions which allowed
a host name table to map NetBIOS names to be mapped to IP addresses.  NetBIOS
normally discovers and resolves names via a media broadcast mechanism.
Standard TCP/IP NetBIOS (RFC1001/1002) makes no provision for this but it
seems to be a common extension used by FTP Software, 3Com, and maybe some
other TCP/IP NetBIOS vendors.  This allows connections across a router
as long as you know the name of the server you want to connect to.  You
can't "browse" servers, though, because server announcement broadcasts
don't propigate across an IP router.

In the latest release of LanMan (I just got it yesterday) evidently there
are some new TCP/IP services which are available to run on servers.  They
provide a mechanism for servers to proxy for each other across an IP router.
This frees the individual workstations from needing a NetBIOS name to IP
address mapping table.  It also looks like it proxies for server announcement
broadcasts.  Based on a 5 minute review of the docs while waiting for my 
upgrade to load it looked like a pretty good scheme.  If I understand 
correctly, I think Novell does something similar, eh?


Bob
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Subject: Re: Etherlink III (3c509)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:13:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <20NOV199209135429@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov> sysdhw@bfec3.gsfc.nasa.gov writes:
>Does anyone have an opinion on how well 3Com's Etherlink III/3c509 ethernet
>card works in a Novell 3.11 environment.  Our CNE seems to think that the
>only ethernet card for clients should be SMC's 3016TP because it is Novell
>'approved and tested'.  I thought Novell tested most cards out there...
>and any ODI drivers that happen to come with the card.

the 509 is a great card. Very fast and *auto configuring*, i.e. no switches
or parameters  it will auto detect the settings on the card.  One note
though: according to the read.me file on the disk that comes with the 509,
the 509 will only work on a workstation -- NOT the server, which IMHO is too
bad, since it would seem that the extra speed would be used most wisely on
the server.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: t33861d@saha.hut.fi (Arttu Edvard Huhtiniemi)
Subject: Performance of NW4MAC?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:38:20 GMT

I tested some file transfer times from a Mac Quadra 900 to a Mac fx and
to a EISA netware server. The Quadra has 68 MB memory, fx 32 MB and the 
server has 16 MB. In the server the blocksize of the disk used was 16k.

Ethertalk phase 2.0 protocol was used with both transfers. NW4MAC version
is 3.011. The server has 200 receive buffers.

The test was done with no (or almost) other traffic in the Ethernet. 

The transfers were done from Photoshop 2.0 program. Following test times
were measured using 26 585 kbytes file size.

Quadra -> Novell	Quadra -> fx

  55'14			   8'43

Mac to Mac transfer was more than six times faster!

- Arttu Huhtiniemi
- System Manager
- Helsinki University of Technology
- Graphic Arts Laboratory
From: mjw@mailbox.eng.ufl.edu (Mike Wohlgemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: File locking with NFS & IPX clients
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:51:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Nov18.145116.17420
Organization: Engineering Computing Services - University of Florida

We need to have a Sun workstation & a DOS client to do some sort
of file locking over Netware.  Basically, when a DOS client connecting
over IPX has the file open, we want it locked so the Sun connecting
over NFS can't open it, and vice-versa.  The file will always be
created by the Sun, and the DOS program that is reading the file
is a canned peice of software that we cannot modify.  The only thing
I can think of is using mandatory file locking on the Sun side, but
mandatory locks can cause problems.  So, what is the best way to
implement this?

Thanks
Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell