HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Subject: Re: Psychobabble
Reply-To: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Organization: I can't see any organization here...:-)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:31:00 GMT

In article <2984.1787.uupcb@spacebbs.com> mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)  writes:
>WARNING!  THIS IS A FLAME!  PRESS 'N' NOW!!!

Great.  Just what we all need.

>kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>
>KB>We all end up starting off with a set of assumptions, this much is true.  No
>KB>logical system is without a base set of axioms.  To me, then, it's a questio
>KB>of simplifying my assumptions as much as possible without detracting from th
>KB>usefulness (i.e., ability to enable one to achieve the goals he wants to
>KB>achieve).
>
>AAAAIIIIEEEE!!!!!  You just DO NOT GET IT, do you?  It doesn't have any
>ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to do with logic!  

Nice of you to delete the context.

We were talking about "myths".

*My* myths have *plenty* to do with logic.

>Throw a bucket of ice water in
>your face *NOW!!!!!!*  Turn your fucking word machine off and listen to
>the other centers of intelligence.  Listen to your dick, and your guts,
>and your heart.  Listen to your *humor gland!*

*These* are "centers of intelligence"????

>You have two options:  1)  Completely accept your own naivete and lauch
>yourself willy-nilly into a campaign of approaching literally every
>woman you find attractive and simply accepting the rebuffs as learning
>experiences (you'll like this part: look for logical correlations
>between your behavior and the reactions you receive.)  

This is probably a good approach.

>Or, 2)  Decide
>that you ARE SPOCK, and run with it.  Post personal adds everywhere you
>can possibly think of (nerdly exercise #2) saying "I am a total Spock,
>looking for a Spockette."

This probably isn't.

>My personal feeling is that *truly dedicating* yourself to either of
>these approaches (or, in fact, dedicating yourself to *anything* other
>that sitting-around-thinking-about-it) will bring you the results you
>desire.

In other words, don't just stand there, *do* something!  Agreed.

>Oh but I forgot, you don't know how to do that because you've never done
>it before.  Oh well.

Well, doing the approaching bit is easy enough.  I can do that by 
emulating the behavior of others.

Figuring out what the responses mean is going to be the hard part, and
that's what I've been talking about much of the time.

What I'm trying to do is keep myself from needlessly spinning my wheels.

>And ANOTHER thing... There's a little secret that the gremlins like to
>whisper in a man's ear on a moonless midnight.  Since you were
>apparently back home color-coding your receipt collection that night
>I'll pass it along:  women are people.  Humans.  JUST LIKE US, only
>different.  You can talk to them, ask them questions, even reveal
>your feelings to them without causing the sky to fall.  Amazing, but
>true.

No shit.  This is why I've had female friends.

Tell me something I don't know.

>FLAME OFF!!!

Thank you.


-- 
				Kevin Brown

			    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com
			    kevin@taronga.taronga.com
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: DESCRIBE YOUR PERFECT MATE PLEASE
Date: 13 Aug 1992 02:28:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <13989@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <51@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>|Without a doubt, the perfect mate for me would be the 
>|woman who acts like "June Cleaver" during the day, and
>|like "Madonna" when we're in the bedroom.
>
>This has to be said.  How do you know how Madonna acts in the bedroom?

Well said.  Suggest you read her Rolling Stone interview from last year.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	"Towards the end, the smell of their air began to change"
From: dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (longer then a midwest freight train)
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:00:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug17.175808.19182@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
>In  <1992Aug17.124410.26700@cbfsb.cb.att.com>  jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug16.212441.29735@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes
>> >
>> >Funny - I asked my girlfriend what Kevin should do, and she said,
>> >   Get off the fucking computer and go out and get a life!
>>
>>  Does she have a sister?
>
>As a matter of fact, three of them.  Two are married, but the youngest one
>is not, and is Hot Stuff.  She just turned 21.

Isn't that a little too old for the Reverend James?
-- 
  Dave Johnson

"You're not too smart, are you?  I like that in a man."
    --Kathleen Turner in Body Heat 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Marcia needs some johnson love, huh?
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:50:45 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug15.235308.1446@lub001.lamar.edu> lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu writes:

>Can't a guy post something in rec.soc.singles without some other guy getting
>all upset?

Sure, as long as he isn't a dickhead.

>I just don't think I will stop posting.

Too bad.  Maybe hurricane season will take care of this for us.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
The sun is gonna shine again / We're gonna make it 'round that bend
I'll walk another mile with you, 'cause you're my friend
The sun is gonna shine again.			- Graham Parker
From: lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: "Congratulations" and/or "Best Wishes"
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:18:14 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Aug17.170942.11260@wetware.com>, diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
|> pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris) writes:
|>  
|> ] } diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:}> 
|> ] }> No no NO!!
|> ] }> The Proper wording for BOTH men AND women is, of course,
|> ] }> "CONDOLENCES"...
|> ] }> (Okay - after almost 9 years of separation, my divorce
|> ] }> is final in 5 days - so I HAD to say this...)
|> ] 
|> ] So.  Is the correct phrase on *this* occasion "Congratulations"?
|> 
|> Yeyeas!!
|> 
|> Diana

Hi,  Diana!

DEFINITELY congratulations, then!  I kinda know how you feel.  My divorce
was final almost 2 yrs after I separated, and I celebrated BIG TIME on that
day in 1988 (March 27, to be precise).  I still celebrate it, too, as
another "Independence" day. :-)

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From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Romance
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 21:05:55 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp

neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:

> A lot of women take offence at gifts, as if you were trying to buy them.
> Flowers 'n' chocs yes, portable CD player (unless you know the person well
> and know they won't take offence) looks like a down-payment on some nookie.
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
A down-payment, eh?  Things are different on this side of the pond.

No Money Down On Approved Credit!   90 Days Same As Cash!
(Honest!  I read it in the newspaper.)

-- Ray
From: ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Criteria for friends and lovers
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:10:10 GMT
Reply-To: ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


Stef Jones writes:
>>Doug Rudoff writes:
>>
>>>How do the criteria that women have for friends and lovers differ?
>>
>>They don't differ for me. What happens when I meet someone I like is that I
>>get a crush. Sometimes I wind up with a friend and sometimes with a lover.
>>Or sometimes they switch. Or sometimes they are in that in-between place. 
>>Although I do have a "list" and can articulate what I like and don't like
>>in people, usually all this is determined more by a seat-of-the-pants
>>approach: what does it feel like to spend time with this person?

The criteria are very different for me!  There are some friends who
have characteristics I don't particularly like so that if they are
friends with me, I don't mind.  For example, one man I know is very
impulsive with his money and energies.  As his friend, I can see that
clearly and not get upset when he buys something he can't afford or
likes too many women at once.  I still like him and care about him.
But, if he were my SO, I'd be upset at him most of the time.  If the
characteristics are such that they would affect me, then definitely
the criteria would be different.

	-- Anita --

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From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Ugly hands
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:16:27 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <3HmqPB3w165w@wildrose.infoserv.com> rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink) writes:
>lemay@lorelei.Eng.Sun.COM (Laura "Treekiller" Lemay - IWTFM) writes:
>
>> I was OK; mine was on the left side.  :-)
>Is this the part where somebody asks "so what did that mean?"   Or the 
>part where we all take turns guessing?  Where *is* my soc.singles
>manual, anyway?

<snort>

-Nance
-- 
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att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 19:32:55 GMT

In article <28992@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>
>It happens in Finland too.  Still, it's true that a typical Finn is
>bad at making the first move.  This is true to both males and females.
>I was really surprised in Tennessee when total strangers greeted me.
>It would never happen in Finland.  Perhaps it's our language.  What
>else could be expected from people who have to say Kylla when they
>mean yes and Ei when they mean no. :)

Yep, it's gotta be the language--must make it especially tough to date
a Scot.

Trygve   (To say nothing about ordering in a German pancake restaurant.) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:00:29 GMT

In article <l8vhrmINN9ng@news.bbn.com>, dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
 
|> Teri has a point when she says that the ratios don't matter when it comes
|> to looking for a girlfriend.  This is the way my logic professor put it
|> when he told us about how he had made his decision to get his phD in 
|> philosophy.  It didn't matter that there are 100 applicants for every 
|> philosophy job -- he wasn't looking for jobs for a hundred applicants, he 
|> was only looking for one job.

I have a friend who also used to say that ratios don't matter. He said, "Sure
there are ten men for every woman here (we were at a club) but what are most
all of them doing? Standing around not talking to any of the women!"  I think
he had a good point.

|> Dawn

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: morton@rtpnet06.rtp.dg.com (John R. Morton)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 08:50:08 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

>>Why is ambiguity bad? Long ago, a part of courting behavior was flirting, where
>>ambiguity and nuance was the name of the game. A person wasn't presented to you

	A person reaches their height of self importance when faced with ambiguity,
	and their ability to resolve it, seperates them from the computer...

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: baker@rtsg.mot.com (Pam Baker)
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Keywords: commitment,marriage,reluctance
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:17:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.232541.11992@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> jfb200@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (joseph.f.baugher) writes:
>I have often wondered why it is  that  so  many  men  are  fearful  of
>commitment.   The  women's  magazines  and the feminist literature are
>
 [stuff deleted]

>Why are men so much more reluctant than women to commit?  I think that
>it is because men have a lot more to lose.

Au contraire, women lose more!!  In typical american society...
women who marry are expected to give up their name and perhaps jobs,
and single friends ;).

>
>In the initial stages of  a  man-woman  relationship,  most  men  want
>little more than steady access to sex.  If a woman is willing to offer

[more things deleted]

>them to make a "social contract" with a woman in which she essentially
>says  "Yes,  I'll  sleep  with  you and with noone else, provided that
>you'll agree  to  provide  me  with  lifelong  financial  support  and
>protection.   In  addition,  you  must help in the raising of any kids
>that may come along." This arrangement is usually  called  "marriage".
>:-)

How many men actually stick to this so-called contract??? 

>
>The woman  is  asking  for  a  considerable  investment  of  time  and
>resources on his part.  In exchange for steady sex, he has to agree to
>lifelong financial support.  Even in this day of  womens'  liberation,
>the  man is nevertheless still expected to be the primary breadwinner.
>When a woman asks a man to commit himself to her, she is asking a lot.

So you're saying that a man has to give up some time (2 hrs / day) and
a few bucks???  I hope that's not what most men think about marriage
because if so, I'll probably never get married !!  

Pam

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 02:05:30 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

Just a side note: every person that I've gotten into a relationship with
was someone who (at one point or another) had some quality about them
that made me decide that I definitely did *not* want to get into a
relationship with them.....
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

"I 'got a life'.  Now what?"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: White Spire Trip Report
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:05:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.131515.1@happy.colorado.edu> srclark@happy.colorado.edu writes:
>Hi,
>The description of this newsgroup says:
>Newsgroup for single people, their activities, etc.
>I think it should read:
>Newsgroup for single people to discuss their singleness
>or:
>Newsgroup for single people who don't do anything but talk about being single
>Well, Homey don't play that. I'm gonna break with the tradition of this
>group and post a recent trip report. Flame on. If you *really* don't like
>it I'll post another.
>BTW any SFs who want to talk about something other than being single can
>(if you get that far).
>Trip report follows.
>It's really early (about 6:30 am) on Wednesday. The harder I work out the
>earlier I rise. We even stayed up *late* last night. I met my brothers
>plane at 9:45 am yesterday. After a Village Inn breakfast (I carbo-loaded
 
I have a similar story, if you don't like it I'll post another.
 
So I get up really early(about 6:30am) on wednesday. The harder I work
my large he-manly muscles the earlier I get up. So I pick my brother
up at the airport and we get home. I walk into the bathroom and
I notice the toilet seat really needs a good manly scrubbing.
So I perform a reach under the sink manuever(not for the faint of heart)
Well at this point my brother say's "Done in there" so I recommend
he try the other bathroom(for novices). 
 
 Well I'm scrubbing away and I'm all rapped up in harness's and this one 
clump of something just won't budge. So I figure should I break out the
Ajax or shuld I rent some scrubbing bubbles.
Ajax or should I rent some scrubbing bubbles. Well my brother can scrape
a toilet pretty good but he's no expert. So I call Kim.
Well Kim lays into those stains like a two peckered billygoat and
it isn't long till I'm looking back on one clean shitter.  It was a long job
but a lot of fun except that after we're through I am *really* dehydrated and
feel like I might pass out-almost do. 

We finished the trip in the tour-on cafe downing Mt. Dew and telling lies.
Nothing like caffeine and sugar to perk a person up. Give me a mountain
give me a dew.

Gonna roust the kid out of bed and do it again, so I'll talk to you

later
Jimmy

 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Subject: BOINK in Rochester, NY???
Originator: pjb4288@ultb
Keywords: Newsgroup?
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:26:46 GMT

Would anyone be interested in a Rochester, NY boink????

Yes, a topless Boink!


-- 
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Email should be sent only to PJB4288@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Disclaimer: You don't like what I'm writing? Oh well.
"Well shut my mouth wide open!"- Tiny Toons HISMV
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Sex With Madonna (was Re:
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 13:14:43 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <2983.1787.uupcb@spacebbs.com> mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)  writes:
>RO>Dunno if I would want to have sex with Madonna, but I sure as hell think
>RO>that lunch with her would be an interesting experience. I just the feeling
>RO>that she and I would get along decently. It would be amusing.
>Re: sex w/ Madonna:  First, she's gotta lose the pointy metal bra.
>Second, the flow of social reality bends in the vicinity of a star just
>like light traversing a gravitational field.  Hence, it would probably
>help to be on a lot of drugs when doing her, just to sort of make
>everything wrap around to normal.

I dunno. She seems pretty well-adjusted to me.
Of course, since I've always been considered to be a bit psycho, you probably
should take that with a liberal sized grain o' salt :)
r.
PS- BalloonBoink! Albuquerque! October 2-4th! Balloons! Parties! Food! Bananas!

Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.couples,soc.men,soc.women,soc.motss
From: smith@mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: deformities and perversions
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:38:16 GMT

eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:

> Of course, I find attractive almost anything on 2 legs with 
> a sense of humour and a huge dollop of intelligence.  Or, wait, didn't
> that just define what I like?  Hm....

Hey, does that mean those of us still on all fours are out of the running?
Damn, this discrimination sucks...

jds

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 10:04:45 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Aug17.230935.5513@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>I don't flirt more, or necessarilly better, than I used to,
>but the hint of money seems to be an effective means to ensure that 
>your flirt object will not be offended by your flirtation.

A-HA! 
Personally, I would >love< to have an 'in' like this. Many people (and I
speak from my personal experiences here), are lacking in the Self-Confidence
arena for the simple reason that we (I) hate to think that my casual 'Hi'
is going to be interpeted as "I'm an evil demon from Hell, have 13 Unnamed
Diseases and want to drool on your breasts". The reaction from a lot of
women that I've gotten on occassion has been as if I had said that instead
of just 'Hi'. 

I'm not saying that 'Women flirt with Trygve because he flashes cash'- but
the effect that the cash has >on Trygve and the women who meet him< gives
Trygve a big edge over us 'mere mortals :)' (I have to be mortal, I look
really stupid in chainmail :)

That 'edge', that 'in' is what a lot of guys look for. Once I can start getting
into talking with a woman, she can see what a witty, intelligent and friendly
person I am. :)
r.
From: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:28:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug19.152807.8398
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: too funky
Originator: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu

In article <kiran.714227964@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
>>I've never been, actually.  If I went, I'd like to discuss with some
>>people what I usually discuss on sf-lovers -- the Lord of the Rings
>Huh. You'd fit right out.  We talk about barbecue, about movies and 
>music and politics and play poker, 

Just who is this "we" you are referring to here?  Even if "you" don't
discuss Tolkien, that doesn't mean no one at the con does.

What makes you think I wouldn't discuss other topics?  I just listed
one I like to discuss.

>>[Trygve has] presented [himself] as a sensitive, 90's-type guy ...
>>... who apparently is
>>in tune with what women want (at least, what some women who post to
>>this group want).
>If this is an accurate presentation, he should have more dates 
>and more relationships.... shouldn't he?

Well, from what he's written, he certainly implies that he has enough
dates and relationships to keep him happy.  The only complaint he has
is that his SOs eventually wind up leaving him after they're "healed".
He doesn't seem unhappy about this (at least, his posts suggest that
it doesn't bother him).

--gregbo
Newsgroups: soc.singles