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From: marty@Shiva.COM (Marty Del Vecchio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: WHAT is a Billican (sp?)?
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:13:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: Shiva.1993Jan26.161348.20265
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In article <30132@oasys.dt.navy.mil> roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard K. Roitman) writes:
>In rec.sport.basketball.college, kk18@prism.gatech.EDU (Kelly Kenion) writes:
>>Okay, I give.  I know there's a school somewhere (in the Northeast?) with a
>>mascot called the Billicans.  I'm not sure if it's spelled like that because
>
>The school is St. Louis University.  And I'm not sure how Billicans
>is really spelled.  I don't think that's correct though.
>

Billikens.  It's some kind of chicken.



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From: roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard K. Roitman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: WHAT is a Billican (sp?)?
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:20:57 GMT
Reply-To: roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard K. Roitman)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.sport.basketball.college, kk18@prism.gatech.EDU (Kelly Kenion) writes:
>Okay, I give.  I know there's a school somewhere (in the Northeast?) with a
>mascot called the Billicans.  I'm not sure if it's spelled like that because

The school is St. Louis University.  And I'm not sure how Billicans
is really spelled.  I don't think that's correct though.

Rick Roitman
roitman@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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From: wgr@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: Atlantic Coast Drivel (N.C. - F.S.U.)
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 18:45:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.175736.3591@samba.oit.unc.edu> Curt.Hill@launchpad.unc.edu (Curt Hill) writes:
>Carolina was lethargic early on.  Trapping a team like FSU when your
>team looks like they'd have trouble keeping up with NC State is lethal.
>I wouldn't have trapped as much period, but Dean is Dean.

During the game (when things weren't going well) I was saying maybe UNC
needs to play differently on defense against a team like Florida State.
FSU's guards were beating the aggressive man-to-man and getting 2-on-1
situations under the hoop or dishing out for open jumpers.  How many slams
did Dobard have?  UNC's traps were getting shredded and the helter-skelter
style favored FSU.

However, seeing how tired the FSU players were at the end of the game,
I wondered how much of that was due to UNC's stubbornly insisting on a
fast tempo (not that FSU seemed to mind).  Dean's normal strategy is to
make the other team play fast and count on Carolina's depth and defense
to wear them down.  Maybe it finally worked.
From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Al McGuire's senility (WAS: Re: IU question)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:05:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: rec
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>
>	I'm sure he is.  Last year during the Duke-Notre Dame game he was 
>talking about Duke's "Brian Hill" (combining Brian Davis and Thomas Hill).
>He lost it years ago.
>

Other favorite:  calling Michigan running back, Jesse Johnson - Jesse Jackson!!

                                                 - Keith Jackson



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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Destiny Night at FSU
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:39:44 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <C1F1y5.JtE@newsflash.concordia.ca> ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA (Ilyess Bdira) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.003310.10882@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>>
>>
>>p.s. To all you guys who said FSU wasn't a top 25 team: IN YOUR _FAAAACE_!!!
>Have you heard of the Duke curse?
>I hope FSU won't lose its next three games :-)

As a GT alum/fan, I'm glad we finally got out of it.  Pass the curse
to someone else.

I think the phrase "Duke Curse" has been used enough to become
official r.s.bb.c jargon.  Let's see if FSU can provide a 3rd
datapoint to this curse ...




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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: North Carolina #1 ... : -(
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 00:28:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.181649.24282@random.ccs.northeastern.edu> sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch) writes:
>In article <1k90i2INNfe6@borg.cs.unc.edu> illiano@cs.unc.edu (Vincent Illiano) writes:
>>|> 
>>It sound like you're giving a whole lot of credit to Dean and his coaching
>>staff.  The players play the game.  It's the players who got down by 21 points,
>>and the players who fought back to win in one of the greatest comebacks in
>>Carolina's history.
>>
>I think you underestimate the role of a coach.  Dean doesn't really need 
>timeouts to change strategy, he just replaces key players on the floor 
>who pass info along to the others sometimes.  Also, clearly (to me) the
>comeback was engineered by Dean.  At the beginning of the half, they
>tried very hard to get the ball to Montross under the basket.  That
>worked in that the lead didn't get larger but failed to close the gap.
>Okay, strategy number 2 was to use the trapping defense to generate
>easy points of turnovers.  That didn't work because FSUs guards were too
>quick and too good with the ball.  So, Dean-o tries strategy number
>3 - the three pointers (which FSU had been leaving open all night).
>Bingo!  Now, the players had to sink the shots (which they hadn't been
>doing so far), but Dean seemed (to me) to be coaching pretty well.
>
>Oh yes, I agree with another poster - the refs did seem to help Carolina's
>comeback.  Maybe they felt guilty.  By sitting Montross on the bench 
>so early, they helped create the deficit in the first place :-)

Yes, at least two of the three he picked up early were questionable calls.
But what is worse is that he had about FOUR in the last few minutes of the
game where the refs blew it hard. 

>
>
>-- 
>Susan Gauch
>sgauch@flora.ccs.northeastern.edu

Kevin
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Wednesday, 20 Jan 1993 14:44:39 EST
From: Marcin Krysinski <MRKRYSIN@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: providence

Hi!
Is anybody there who is studying at Providence University and is interested
in basketball? If yes please contact me! Marcin Krysinski.
MRKRYSIN@MTUS5 or MRKRYSIN@MTU.EDU
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 3 POINT SHOOTERS? Who are they?
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:38:19 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) wrote:
}
}How uptodate is this?  I don't have numbers from the Illinois game, but
}other than that:
}
}>Bailey        Indiana          15   20   38   52.6

The numbers I gave were from the 1/20 USA Today and included results
through Monday night.  If you look at the leaders listed in the table
you will note that they all have more attempts/game than Mr. Bailey.
(Lowest in the table was ~2.9 attempts/game, whereas Bailey has only
~2.5 attempts/game.)  All the NCAA stat categories have official minimums
to qualify, otherwise you'd have seen at the top of the list:

Forrest        Georgia Tech      13    1     1  100.0

-- 
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From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Subject: Re: Duke loss
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:27:59 GMT

Rob:

You just proved what I've been saying all along. If you want to flame me,
do it privately. I doubt if the whole net cares to see your personal
attacks of me. Haven't you ever heard "sticks and stones may break my
bones, but WORDS will never hurt me.?"

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From: ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero)
Subject: Re: North Carolina #1 ... :-(
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:07:24 GMT

In article <C1Jnsz.7wD@unix.amherst.edu> rlharrin@unix.amherst.edu (Rich Harrington) writes:

>   And it looks like tonight FSU might just do the job.  We'll see; IU 
>survived its scare tonight.

fooW! fooW!

Bloody 'ell, as we say in London. I go to the bathroom for 3 minutes, and
Dean Smith finds and kills R\"odl's pod person... 

I don't know if UNC is going be #1 (the way things have been going this year,
I hope not :-), but with a comeback like that, they definitely showed a lot
of character. FSU definitely deserves to move up 8-10 places; they definitely
look like they've got a lock on 2nd place in the ACC.

Simon
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From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: HUGE 10 UPDATE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:57:48 GMT

bonacci@ecf.toronto.edu (BONACCI John) writes:

>Net netters,
>With Randy's hiatus from the BTR, many of us that are geographically
>challenged have not a clue about what's going on in the wonderful world
>of Big Ten hoops.  I have-- with my razor-sharp detective senses-- figured
>out, by close inspection of every inch of this newsgroup, that Indiana 
>clobbered tOSU.

>I am after just final scores for last weekend's games involving Big Ten teams.

Saturday's Games
Michigan (h) 76 Illinois 68
Wisconsin 67 MSU (h) 66
Minnesota (h) 70 Northwestern 55
Iowa / PSU  postponed

Sunday's game
Indiana (h) 96 tOSU 69 

Michigan took an early lead and had their way with the Illini early.
Illinois' cold shooting ignited the Wolves running game for easy
buckets.  The lead increased to as much as 18 or 19, but IL kept
after them.  Kaufman broke his slump with a second half surge 
which gave him ~27 pts.  Jalen Rose poured in 3's and posted up
when he had too.  Weber had only ~ 13 pts.  J. Howard looked good
pulling down boards, then bringing it up the court, looking for
teammates the whole time.  I think his overall game is the best of
the F5. D. Thomas had ~ 19 for IL, and limped thru the last minutes
with a minor calf injury. Michigan played as well as they needed
to win.  

Wisconsin charged back to beat the Spartans on their floor. They were
down by 2.  Webster (I think) faked a drive move on his man, then 
dished to a player on the arc who hit a 3.  MSU had a chance with
more than 3 or 4 seconds left, but blew their inbounds pass.  It
was tipped and slowed by a WI defender.  But the time it reached the
MSU man at mid-court, he was nearly out of time.  

Minnesota controlled Northwestern throughout the half I watched.  
They didn't shoot well, but destroyed the Wildcats on the boards. 
During one possession they must have gotten at least 6 offensive boards. 

Mark gave a nice summary of IN-tOSU... Veterans beat Youngsters. 


B10 Standings

	CW	CL	
IN	6	0	17	2	.895
MI	4	1	15	2	.882
WI	3	2	10	4	.714
IL	3	2	10 	6	.625
MN	3	3	11	4	.733
PU 	2	3	11	3	.786
MSU	2	3	10	4	.714
tOSU	2	3	 9	5	.643
IA	1	2	12	3	.800
PSU	1	4	 6	8	.429
NW	0	4	 5	8	.385

Tuesday's Game
  tOSU @ MI

Wednesdays Games. 
 WI @ IL  7pm
 MN @ IN  7pm
From: pchu@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Darkwing Duck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: The 30-4 run
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:08:46 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

As ESPN sportswatchers have just witnessed, perhaps one of the finest game
so far this year on ESPN.  Trailing 73-52, the North Carolina Tar Heels, on
the strength of 5 straight 3-pointers, rallied to beat the Florida State
Seminoles 82-77.  A GREAT game byt two great teams.

GO HEELS!

Peter
From: lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal whips UCLA's Butt
Date: 26 Jan 1993 13:59:40 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
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Keywords: 104-82 !

In article <30541@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>In article <1k21huINN46m@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood) writes:
>It should focus on conference play but even if it didn't Stokes looks pretty
>the week....
>
As was Haskin the week before--I think.  Just goes to show that they are 
clearly the best centers the conference has, and thus both will make the
PAC-10 10 at the end of the year.  (Nobody has yet said whether it will be
a 5 or 10 man team, so I'm assuming 10.)

Henry


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From: toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma)
Subject: Eastern Conspiracy
Organization: Not bloody likely around here!
Distribution: rec.sprt.basketball.college
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:27:49 GMT

How can Duke get beat by unranked FSU and only drop from 6 to 7, while
other teams drop 3,4 or more spots when they lose to better teams.
Sounds like some Eastern bonehead media types are still in love with 
Duke. Well, the honeymoon is over kids, wake up!
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From: jpdurb01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Mash at S. Car.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:35:37 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Mashburn was silently impressive.
I am sure he had 10+ assists,
I don't know how many rebounds,
and 12 points.

he may have had a triple double.

UK played well as a team, Dent was player of the game, JP sports,
Martinez looked impressive also, 2/3 3pt range 6/8 ft.

These stats are from memory only.

		jd

UK by 25+
From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Can IU go unbeaten?
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:37:11 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

I, the ears of the Anti-Woofing Gods on earth, have forwarded the 
subject line of this thread to my lords.  I am confident that 
appropriate action will be taken...soon.

Ted

-- 
So the Maples formed a union, and demanded equal rights, "The Oaks are just 
too greedy.  We will make them give us light!"  Now there's no more Oak 
oppression, for they passed a noble law.  And the trees are all kept equal, 
by hatchet, axe and saw.     -  Rush, The Trees
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal whips UCLA's Butt
Keywords: 104-82 !
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:30:34 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


I watched this game until I began to feel bad for UCLA and then I knew it
was time to turn it off. UCLA has big problems. What a pathetic group.
The bigmen are piss-poor Zidek and Petruska are stiffs of a magnitude the
Pac-10 has never seen before and although Zimmerman looked stellar at times,
he is certainly not a quality bigman. O Bannon must wish he had never gone
to la la land at this point. I realize that Edney is a fairly solid guard but
who the hell told him he was good? The kid seems to think he is capable of
controling a game and frankly he is far from it. Harrick seems to just let
the Bruins go - this might have worked often enough with the group he had
last season but this season he just looks incapable of coaching. The 
Bruins seem to stand around without a clue in the half-court offense 
and they just don't have the quality guard play to run with most teams.
I hope this was just a fluke but it doesn't look like it - it looks as if the
players have begun to lose what little confidence they might have had
before the Arizona game and they don't appear to be getting any leadership
from the coaching staff. I don't know what the UCLA fans think but I'd
say that the lack of depth at guard (and lack of real talent at the position)
is the root of the problem. Granted the bigmen with the exception of O Bannon
suck but so what? Other teams in the Pac-10 compete with big, slow, stiffs
up front - the problem in my mind is that Edney just seems to lose it at times
and makes some very bad decisions. This may be the fault of the coaches in
that he is left with no options or choices on offense but I've seen him
blow so many attempts to drive that I can't understand the strategy at all.
Exactly what do the Bruins try to do on offense? They often seem to have
the attitude of "give it to Ed and he'll manage something" and if he
doesn't then they just try to do it individually. I can only hope they 
continue to slide.....


				gln
From: marty@Shiva.COM (Marty Del Vecchio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The Biggest Upset of the Decade?
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:21:41 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.college
Organization: Shiva Corporation, Cambridge, Ma, USA

In article <1993Jan27.231620.25871@midway.uchicago.edu> sfp1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.193338.8268@ryn.mro4.dec.com> murphy@rock.enet.dec.com () writes:
>>
>>
>>|> Absolutely Agree     I saw that game between Richmond and Syracuse
>>|> This was the Biggest Upset of the Decade.
>>|> 
>>
>>I don't know - what about...
>>Chaminade over Virginia and Ralph Sampson???
>>
>>Murph
>
>What about Villanova over Georgetown '85 fo the NCAA Chamionship.
>or maybe
>Duke over UNLV '91
>	I know peeeople who will swear affadavvits that that game was bought
>

Duke over UNLV was an upset, but it can't be considered a BIG upset.  After
all, Duke had been to the Final Four for 5 consecutive years, and were
considered one of the best teams in the country.  



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From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Possesion Arrow
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:51:16 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <1jmul6INN5qi@golf.cis.ohio-state.edu> wlee@cis.ohio-state.edu (Wang-Chien Lee) writes:
>
>Would someone please tell me how the possesion arrow is decided?
>In a jump ball situation, we look at the possesion arrow to decide
>which side the ball belongs to. However, I never had a clue how it's
>decided. 

The team that controls the openning tip-off has the first possession
of the game so the arrow point to the *other* team.  At each following
jump-ball situation (including the start of the 2nd half) the team
with the arrow gets the ball and the arrow is then switched.

It used to be that a 5 second call (the closely guarded rule)
called for a jump-ball, but it was wisely decided to just give
the ball to the defense instead.

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From: harveyc@seq.uncwil.edu (harveyc chet x)
Subject: Re: Who is #1?
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:45:51 GMT

Carolina, UNC, Tarhells, any more stupid questions? The heels have
played a strong schedule, and lost one to the fab five by (1). What
a lucky shot for them. If they can stay healthy I think they have
a 30 win season ahead of them. GO HEELS!!!!!!!!!!
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From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Louisville whips Arizona State
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:48:47 GMT

jimcar@cabezon.uucp (James Carrasquer) writes:
> kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) writes:
> >     Son, Arizona State did NOT give up:  They
> >put on a clinic.  An SDDD clinic, masterfully done.
>                       ^^^^
> OK, I'll bite.

     Figures.

     Obviously you weren't paying much attention
to the clinic or you'd know that's the easiest
way to piss off the donkey.

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Subject: Kansas' excuse for the loss
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:18:19 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


1. The schedule maker, who had KU playing Louisville a few
	years ago right after UL lost to VCU, for having UCLB
	right after they played VCU and lost.

2. Schedule maker for having KU looking ahead to playing Rollins College.

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From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: ASU/UA report anyone?
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:25:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <30353@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>In article <1jpndoINNo81@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>, rpandey@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Rajeev Pandey) writes:
>> > break UK's season record.  Can anyone beat UA in tha PAC-10
>> > this year????
>> 
>>  UA is very strong in a not-so-strong Pac-10 this year. UA could lose
>>  to one of the LA schools on their home floor (not likely). I think
>>  the only real threat to UA this season may be the Jan. 30 game against
>>  Oregon State at Gill Coliseum.
>
>OK - you want a list of Pac-10 games they can lose? Here goes, OSU, UW
>(they've lost there two years in a row when UW was worse and UA was 
>probably better), UCLA at home or Cal on the road.  
>
>
>
>			gln

I'll agree with gary, but I would like to add that UA will only lose 
two of the four games he lists.  In addition, the Cincinnati game in 
Phoenix next month will be tough.

My prediction: UA will finish the regular season with no more than 5 losses.

Ted

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too greedy.  We will make them give us light!"  Now there's no more Oak 
oppression, for they passed a noble law.  And the trees are all kept equal, 
by hatchet, axe and saw.     -  Rush, The Trees
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