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From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Re: Death vs Grindcore vs Thrash
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:47:14 GMT

donnell@starfish.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:


>Not following your own advice is right. Flaming everyone for their opinions
>and then flaming more, because someone didn't mention that they were merely 
>stating their opinion <like it has to be said in every post, when it should be 
>damn obvious!> is pretty weak. 

>Your generalization is bullshit. Is it possible that those of us who 
>happen to have the misfortune to be a little older, might have some
>good information, since we have been at it longer! Or is youthful arrogance
>such as your the only thing allowed.

>why don't we admit that everybody's different, and get back to discussing
>music. Please.

>					-- Judex --

Hey, I can respect people's opinions, and I am sorry about the old
crack..most most most most uncalled for, but when someone stops stating their
opinions and just attacks other people's is uncalled for.  Coming up with
crude names about people's favorie groups is not stating an opinion.  Stating
an opinion is more like "I do not like Metallica because.."  not "Metallifuck
sucks because I don't like them..so they aren't real musicians anymore."  The
POPE is not discussiong music, he is abusing the listeners. So, Judex, I DO
apologize to you, but I refuse to apologize to this guy.  You often post
helpful info/follow-ups and that is to be praised.  Sorry I generalized, and
I thought I did state that I hoped I matured when I got older, as Mr. POPE has
not.  Sorry again to Judex and others who were offended, except for POPE and
his kind.

					apologetically,
					    the man
From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Heavy Heavy Metal
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:19:49 GMT
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In article <97922@netnews.upenn.edu> ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.222445.1600@ics.com> ben@ics.com (Benjamin Friedman) writes:
>>
>>Recently on a buiseness trip to London I found myself browsing the multitude of metal fanzines....
>>
>>I am starting a CD Collection of thrash albums.  I am clueless.  Please some boby out there in net-land fill me in.  Please post your responses to this group, for as I am such a popular guy my mail box is full (joke).  I would love to see some good stuff posted.  
>>
>>Thanks all!
>
>Being more into thrash than death, I feel a little justified in jumping in
>here.  First off, the old Kreator albums are incredibly awesome.
>_Pleasure to Kill_, _Flag of Hate_, and _Endless Pain_ (which all share some
>songs, but I have all three anyway) are absolutely incredible.  A MUST for any
>-James
>University of Pennsylvania
>ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
>
>P.S.  I'll probably get flamed by one camp or another no matter what I do, but
>I have to say that Slayer is an incredible thrash band.  All of you out there
>going, "NO! Slayer is not thrash!" I apologize to.  It's just how I look at 
>them.  They're the original.  Anything else is influenced at best, if not
>directly copied.
>
>P.P.S.  The fastest thrash song ever written was by Ministry, "T.V. Song." 
>(They call it "T.V. II" on the album.)  I'll probably get flamed for that, 
>too, but what the hell; even Kreator can't keep up with a machine.  And
>"T.V. Song" has an almost-blast go through out the whole song.  It's 
>Incredible.  Check it out.
>
>P.P.P.S.  What the hell's the deal with all these #@*$ postscripts?!?!?!
>
>
>

Definitely get old Kreator. It is classical. Get Sodom's "Persecution Mania." I think it is double LP-Live
but it is also a major asset in any thrash collection. I would also consider early Anthrax as thrash, so get all of them
until Persistence of Time, which is a good album but I don't think it qualifies as thrash. Also, check out Possessed, and
they are early stuff -- I think they fit this category.  






















Alex.



-- 
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 in the universe.  The way I see it, sometimes you have to rot the
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From: cs401005@scs.carleton.ca (jeff brinskelle)
Subject: Slik Toxik
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:40:42 GMT

	Hey does anyone know when Slik Toxik are coming back to Ottawa?
I saw them a couple months ago at Grand Central, they were awesome, played almost the entire album.

Can't wait!
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From: jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young)
Subject: Re: Death vs Grindcore vs Thrash
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:13:28 GMT

>the most violent Moshing I ever saw
>was at Black Flag shows. 
>
Yea,no shit,some of the best thrashin' and divin' I ever did was
at punk shows in the early 80's.ESPECIALLY the Dead Kennedy's,
Black Flag,the Stains,old M.D.C.,DRI(when they were skinheads
back when the dirty rotten e.p.came out,Minor threat played here
once in 82,That was a good show.
>					--Judex--
>PS: I'm 30, still slam/mosh, and have been doing this for longer than 
>many of you could spell Metallica. Or for that matter, Before Metallica
>and the rest EXISTED!
Allright another old timer who knows what's up.I'm only 25.but I
remember the good day's before Metallifag was the big homo band.
I see these little kids wearing shirts of bands that had already
got big(small time big)and broke up when these kids were 5 years old.

REMEMBER WHEN:metal was leather and spikes,you could actually
slam dance,get shredded to a bloody pulp and enjoy every minute
of it.
I remember seeing Possesed,and this other band that was Hirax under
a different name,and I think Sacrilege(or mabey Sacrifice I was pretty
hammered that night)They didn't prance around like the homo in Fags
or More..I mean that faith band,sorry.

Kreator was much more rippen than metallifuk in the early 80's
Good to see SOMEONE knows what they're talking about(besides me
and my brother) 

                  Product of the pre-laMeT.V. mentality
			THE POPE!!!!
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Dream Theat{re|er} (was Re: SUARON!!...)
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:13:35 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

osickey@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey) writes:

>   Obligatory Metal:  can someone tell me about dream theatre?
>                           azrael

You'd probably want to look over on alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive for
stuff on DT, they've been discussed at length there.

-Shag

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From: cons008@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chuck Hazlett)
Subject: Re: Top Death Metal Groups
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:55:32 GMT

In article <BxqtxD.2HB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>Hi, y'all, i was just wondering what you think the best death metal groups in
>the world are.  A lot of it is kinda crappy if you ask me, and a lot of it
>seems to be image (Deicide, etc.), but some if it is pretty cool.  I kind of
>like Entombed and Morbid Angel so far, but am looking for more.  I have
>dabbled in Bolt Thrower and was impressed somewhat.  So any opinions would be
>appreciated..thanks :)
>
>						Dave

Granted, most death metal bands today seem to be photocopies of the originators
of the music style, but there are some talented ones around:

Death (the original death band, IMHO (yes, I know about Celtic Frost/Hhmmr)
Kreator (very, very fast death)
Sepultura (also very, very fast.  To quote a friend: "I thought Slayer was
fast, then I heard Sepultura!")

While I feel that Kreator and Sepultura are not as amazing they have been,
Death has certainly gone uphill in recent years.  I feel that Spiritual
Healing was infinitely better than Scream and Leprosy, and Human is simply
amazing (Don't flame me.  I understand that many people feel that Leprosy
is Death's best, but I do not.)  If you are tired of typical death metal,
I definitely suggest Human.  Some of the songs are actually _happy_ music,
such as "Cosmic Sea" and "See Through Dreams".

-Chuck
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From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: Top Death Metal Groups
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 16:30:04 GMT

In article <BxqtxD.2HB@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
 > Hi, y'all, i was just wondering what you think the best death metal groups in
 > the world are.  A lot of it is kinda crappy if you ask me, and a lot of it
 > seems to be image (Deicide, etc.), but some if it is pretty cool.  I kind of
 > like Entombed and Morbid Angel so far, but am looking for more.  I have
 > dabbled in Bolt Thrower and was impressed somewhat.  So any opinions would be
 > appreciated..thanks :)
 > 
 > 						Dave

Try Sepultura:  Their latest album, "Arise", is excellent stuff.  Also, the one
before that (I forget the title) is supposed to be good.

My Dying Bride is also a very excellent doom/death band; their first full album
was released this summer ("As the Flower Withers"), and there's an EP (again I
forget the title) from last year.  Very heavy, very doomy, and with a voice from
hell.

-Leif
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Fear Factory (Was Re: Top Death Metal Groups)
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:36:29 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <MEGA.92Nov15145447@taipaani.cc.lut.fi> mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil) writes:
>
>  Here comes a list of my top death metal groups & albums.
>
> Fear Facotory: Soul of a new machine
> [others]

	The one I'm interested in is Fear Factory -- are they standard
death metal?  Something different?  I'm not a huge DM fan (though
Paradise Lost is great, and Entombed isn't so bad) ... the really-
fast DM I can live without, but the slower grinding stuff -- that's
what I'm looking for ...

					Brian

-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: cmrtcv@elroy.uh.edu (92F09797)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Death, Pestilence, Massacre,.....
Date: 22 Nov 1992 17:59 CST
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I just read that Chuck is currently working on writing some of the new
DEATH album.  Death should be made up of Chuck, Sean Reinert and Skott
Carino...both of whom played on HUMAN, no word on another guitarist.
  Cynic, who is now signed with R/C, is in the process of recording, without
Tony Choy, who left to join Pestilence.  Tony has decided to leave Pestilence
and team up with ATHEIST.
       It seems that the rumors of Massacre breaking up are true.  Word is
that Kam and Rick are both going to start separate industrial projects, while
Terry Butler and Bill Andrews might leave the music business altogether.
    And finally, Dark Angel have broken up.
From: 00jlbrash@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: OverKill
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:08:23 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <By0sK1.E5@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson) writes:
> 
>   Hate to be a "me too" person but ME TOO!  Howabout an Overkill
> fan club mailing list?  Overkill rules!
Correction: Pre-Horrorscope Overkill ruled. They lost something after Years of
Decay.
From: d92j1jo@pyton.csd.uu.se (Jonas Jonsson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: The ORIGINAL Black Sabbath
Date: 18 Nov 1992 09:15:37 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Systems, Uppsala, Sweden.
Distribution: world
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I just hope they'll play at Donington Castle this summer .....
We in Europe need our share ......

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From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Masters of Reality, etc.
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:18:07 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <00963D0C.D3741360@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Does anybody know what happended to the band Masters of Reality from
>Syracuse?  I saw them at a club in Milwaukee a couple of years ago,w
>but as far as I know they haven't put out anything since their debut
>album in '88 or '89.  Are these guys even in existence?  

	The leader/guitarist (Chris Goss) bolted after a time, and has 
been reforming the band with a new lineup while retaining the name.  
He produced Kyuss's latest album (the name of which I can't remember,
but it's quite good -- heavy, old-sounding ...).  Meanwhile, the 
other guitarist (Tim Harrington) and bassist formed the Bogeymen,
and have released one album, which I actually bought for $1 (CD) and
haven't had time to listen to much.  That first MOR album is not bad
-- varied, and some songs aren't for me at all, but some of the heavier
stuff ("Kill The King") is great ...

>Also, does
>anybody know how to get a hold of a Trouble bootleg concert tape/LP
>made in Aurora, Illinois in 1983?  I've never been able to come
>across a copy myself...

	If this is the tape they used to sell through their fan club
or whatever (before their first album) ... I had it, and may still
have it ...

> . . .  Trouble, by the way, is fantastic, in
>particular The Skull.  If you've only heard their later albums,
>it's much different than Psalm 9 or The Skull, which are doomy and
>downright depressing.  Any Trouble fans out there?

	Yes.  Great, great band.  Haven't decided about the new one yet,
but "Psalm 9" and "The Skull" are brilliant.  The self-titled 
"Trouble" of a year or two ago is also great ...

					Brian
-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Kyuss?
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:38:50 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Nov20.042546.18178@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>As the subject header says, who are they? I want to go see Danzig next month
>at the Roseland, and this band Kyuss is opening for them. I've seen that name
>before, but I don't know who they are. Someone please explain?

	Well, they're pretty cool, and a bit different.  A very heavy, kind
of old-ish sound to them -- almost early-70's in places.  Their recent
one, "Blues For The Red Sun", was produced by Masters Of Reality front-
man Chris Goss, which might explain their sound a little bit.  Their
first one, "Wretch" isn't so good.  I'd recommend "Blues ..." -- I
really can't think of any one band that they sound like, which in itself
is a compliment ... 

					Brian
-- 
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CSE Department, UC San Diego
bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
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From: dxk21@po.cwru.edu (Dave K.)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Info on Megadeth/ST tour needed...
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:06:25 GMT
Organization: Case
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In article <9751@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> slayer@cislabs.pitt.edu (Deborah) writes:
>From: slayer@cislabs.pitt.edu (Deborah)
>Subject: Re: Info on Megadeth/ST tour needed...
>Date: 16 Nov 92 23:46:49 GMT
>>On that note, Does anyone know when Megadeth and ST are coming to Pittsburgh?
>>
>>Please?!
> 
> Unfortunately. All I know is that they will be at Richfield Collisuem in 
> Cleveland on the 19th (Wednesday) nothing said about Pittsburgh yet..
> Keep listening to 97 Rock they will let you know if anything is being
> said about a trip to Pittsburgh.
>


     Actually... the concert is at the Music Hall which is downtown 
Cleveland, but you get the idea....


dk
From: dff10@cus.cam.ac.uk (D.F. Foster)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: BRUCE'S VOICE
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:35:17 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

He left Iron Maiden 1n 1981 due to personal problems,one of them being his
grandfather died.
He joined the group DIANNO in 1984 and produced an album with the same title.
In 1986 he joined Battlezone and produced two albums with them.

Daniel.
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From: rpl1966@zeus.tamu.edu (RUDE DOG)
Subject: Re: BRUCE'S VOICE
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Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:04:00 GMT

In article <OKES.92Nov18163850@SunLab44.essex.ac.uk>, okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke) writes...
>In article <1992Nov18.042632.4302@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:
>|
>|	 They seem to have grown up a bit, and IMHO, this is not a good thing.
>| Gone are the fantasy and horror images of Children of the Damned, Murders in
>| the Rue Morgue, Number of the Beast, Still Life, Hallowed Be Thy Name, etc., 
>| replaced by "socially-conscious" lyrix.  I think 
>| they were much better when their messages were buried in the context of the
>| "story" as in Revelations and Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
>|
>I couldn't agree more. I bought Fear of the Dark, and was disappointed to
>discover that one of my favourite bands had gone all moralistic. Nothing
>like the old Iron Maiden at all. This album is definitely a change for
>the worse (all IMO, of course).
> 
> 
>--
>This signature is copyright 12/6/1992 Simon Oke. All rights reserved. If you
>like it and keep a copy for your own use, you owe me $20. Please pass it on
>to your friends with all documentation.              Email okes@essex.ac.uk.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ...though he was master of all the world, he was not quite sure what to
>	do next. But he would think of something.
I still like the new stuff, although not near as much as the old fantasy stuff.
One thing that I'm not too happy about is the new artist, Melvyn Grant.  He 
cna't hold a stick to Drek Riggs.  I don't think that the artwork was all 
that necessary, but D.R. stuff was just incredible.  The three latest singles
(Be Quick or be Dead, Wasting Love, and From Here to Eternity) don't have 
artwork at all, in fact Be Quick or be Dead is the only one with Eddie on it at
all.  That's my two cents worth.

Up the Irons!!
Rude Dog
From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: "Death Metal"
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:33:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk (Barry Copeland TBS92) writes:

>In article <1e71nvINNrr9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman) writes:
>If you insist on taking part in a debate, please understand the terms 
>involved...

>Sepultura are thrash leaning towards both Hardcore and Death... definately NOT
>grindcore.


Oh, man, now I am REALLY confused!  Ok, now for the slower people, what is
grindcore, what is Hardcore and what is Death!  I just posted, but now I
don't know where I stand.  HELP ME, I am drowning in a sea of classification
and I have no life preserver...oh, yes i do, the music itself!  

					just trying to get a basis for
					discussion,

						the man
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From: d90-two@czarny.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Comecon (Re: "Death Metal")
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:35:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.235920.27439@cheshire.oxy.edu> dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker) writes:
>Speaking of doom/death metal (whatever) I just picked up a new cd
>by a group called Comecon called Megatrends in Brutality. It has
>a very Napalm Death-y kind of sound, except maybe not quite as
>slamming. Anyone heard anything about them? The cd has promotional
>written on it so it may not be a commercial release.
>
Of course I've heard of them :-) No Swedish Death Metal bands escape me.
Comecon was just a one album collaboration with members from Omnitron, a
Swedish leftist progressive Thrash Metal (or whatever...) band, and
LG Petrov from Entombed (the album was recorded when he was out of
Entombed for a year). I don't think they sound very Napalm Deathish, rather
like a weird mix of Bolt Trower and Omnitron... especially those guitar
leads are exactly of the same kind as they have in Omnitron.

The album is released on Century Media, nothing strange about it.

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From: bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk (Barry Copeland TBS92)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Death vs Grindcore vs Thrash
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:24:29 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

In article <1eapi0INNbb8@ginger.csv.warwick.ac.uk> cstadez@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr C M Soanes) writes:
>
>Personally, I dont dive a shit which group is in which category.
>If a band's music catches my attention, i'll by it.

Same here, but try to describe any band over a net without any categorisation
or similarities pointed out and we'll end up with Bible length descriptions!!:)

Here's my _attempts_ at defining the genres

Thrash - solid, fast rythm, moshable.
         cf. Anthrax, Nuclear Assault, Slayer

Death - solid, heavy, mid tempo to fast, a sort of grinding sound
        cf. Death, Morbid Angel, Obituary
      - can also be slow (no genre name)
        cf. Autopsy, Anathema, Paradise Lost

Grindcore - very fast, heavy , very grindy, - excellent tempo changes 
            cf. Napalm Death, Carcass

Hardcore - fast, not heavy, not really moshable.- matured punk
           cf. Dead Kennedys, early Suicidal Tendencies

Doom - very slow, verySt Vitus, Stillborn

Speed M - fast heavy, clear rythm
          cf. Megadeth, Metallica

Hope this helps anyone who's interested.

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From: cons008@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chuck Hazlett)
Subject: Re: death vs. thrash vs. grindcore
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:12:03 GMT

In article <BxtvL0.B0w@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler) writes:
>
(stuff about classifying death/grind/thrash deleted)
>						the man
>
>P.S. What about other bands like Overkill, Anthrax, Megadeth, metallica
>where do all these go (without getting into a discussion about selling out
>please)
>
>

I think most would agree that Anthrax, Megadeth, and MetallicA are speed
metal.  I have heard very little of Overkill and thus cannot categorise them.

-Chuck
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