HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: morton@bit.csc.lsu.edu (Donald J. Morton)
Subject: Re: Digest Archives
Reply-To: morton@bit.csc.lsu.edu (Donald J. Morton)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:28:53 GMT

| From: aliu@usc.edu (Alex C. Liu)
| Subject: Mail-digest archive...
| Date: 9 Sep 92 17:26:36 GMT
| 
| But how about creating a table of contents?  If I am not wrong, this
| digests have "Subject" lines that you could extract and put in a
| single file.  And one could download this file and simple figure out
| what digests have the subjects you are interested in and just download
| that instead of downloading digest after digest after digest after
| digest.

For anyone interested, here is my two line script for performing the
above subject extraction from the digests 


        awk 'NR == 10, /-----------------/' $1  >> digest.dir 
        rm $1

       
Simply place the above in a file (I'll call it "extract" here), then

        chmod u+x extract

Then, save your digest to a file (I'll call it digest.txt) and enter

       extract digest.txt

and the subject listings (along with the digest number, etc.) are appended
to "digest.dir".


I realize there are probably much better ways to do all this, but for
simple-minded folk like myself, it works!!  


I'll take this opportunity now to express my deep appreciation for all
the work that's been done on Linux.  I still find it absolutely amazing
that I can have workstation-like capabilities right here at home, for
FREE!!  Hopefully, when I'm done with school I'll be able to find a
niche in which I can be helpful in some of your future work.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: How to boot a SCSI drive (w/ a WD7000 FASST)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:42:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.200938.25497@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>Drew Eckhardt (drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu) wrote:
>
>: In article <1992Sep14.043836.11320@udel.edu> golden@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Edward Golden) writes:
>: 
>: >   First, how do I make 0.97 boot completely from the hard disk?  I'd like to
>: 
>: Install the master boot record of your choice, and either 
>: LILO or Shoelace.
>
>I tried using LILO and shoelace, but found them to be too complicated, so
>what *I* do is to boot MSDOS, then use bootlin to boot the kernel from the
>MSDOS partition.  I haven't had any problems with it, and I don't have to
>screw with my partition table.  Works for me.
>
>I don't know why more people aren't using bootlin, since it has less impact
>on the system than anything else I've seen.

My reasons for using LILO instead of DOS+bootlin

a)	it's a hell of a lot faster

b)	I can have more flexible configurations (I now have entries
	for the most recent kernel with root=/dev/hdb2, the most
	recent kernel with root=floppy, the previous version with
	root=/dev/hdb2, the previous version with root=floppy, and DOS.

c)	my linux stuff and DOS stuff are completely seperate (no
	copying images of the kernel onto my DOS partitions)

d)	problems with bootlin not zero'ing BSS (or something similar),
	which LILO does.

e)	I don't like DR DOS's config.sys configuration stuff and don't
	want to register AutoCon when LILO is free.

Since I boot DOS so rarely, I see no reason to have to ever boot into
DOS, even just to bootstrap Linux, especially since that adds another
step for errors to appear.

LILO is very easy and safe to use, if you simply follow the directions.
-- 
                                    +      Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95)
                                    |      Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
                                    |   jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
                                    + or jwinstea@fenris.Claremont.EDU
From: riipinen@dxcern.cern.ch (Petri Juhani Riipinen)
Subject: Can not do anonymous ftp, how to get Linux in disks?
Organization: CERN European Laboratory for Particle Physics
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:58:35 GMT

Hello everybody...

My hardware: (no-name-clone( 486/33, 8MB, 234MB, ET4000 SVGA...
My os: MS-DOS 5.0

Now, I'm not too happy with the MS-DOS, and I'm planning to install also
some UN*X system to another partition in my HD (I suppose, I will have
plenty of space to do that...). Now, I have couple of questions for you
more experienced people in this matter. I do know something about Unix and
use it in my work, but I would love to have it at home also.

I have read lots of things about different Unixes and my options have now
come to 2, Coherent or Linux.

So,

1) Have you used Coherent before? If so, why did you change to Linux?
   The price is not a reason, Coherent is extremely cheap to my standards
   and I wouldn't think twice about paying for it...

2) How I can get Coherent  on  disks? I have read in this newsgroup about
   these "SLS (or whatever) distributions", but are they in CDROM? I would
   like to get a distribution package, which includes the X, gcc and other
   stuff as well. Now, I can not do anonymous FTP... And I don't have a
   CDROM player, only 5"25 and 3"5 drives...:(

Sorry, if these are FAQ questions... But I haven't seen answers to these
questions anywhere...

TT4N, P. Riipinen (riipinen@dxcern.cern.ch)
From: ericb@hplsla.hp.com (Eric Backus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNU shell utils 1.7: date(1) dumps core (with easy solution:)
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:23:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplsla.147770001
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

>	In fact, the fix to configure is pretty small.  configure tries
>to compile a program defining 'extern char **tzname' and gcc complains
>because tzname is declared as 'extern char *tzname[]' so configure assumes
>that tzname does not exist in Linux.
>
>	You can apply this patch to correct configure :


I hope you mailed a copy of this patch to the FSF so next time it
won't be a problem.
--
				Eric Backus
				ericb@hplsla.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: fdformat loops
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:49:35 GMT

In article <715830854snx@grendel.demon.co.uk> jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave) writes:
>
>1.2M drives only have tracks 0..76. 
>
>--
>Jim Segrave (Segrave Software Services)     jes@grendel.demon.co.uk
>

Since when?  In my spec 1.2M = 

96 Tracks per inch

80 Physical cylinders(tracks on a given disk side)
2 Heads
15 Sectors per track
512 Bytes per sector

So 80 * 2 * 15 * 512 = 1228800 bytes per disk.
-- 
Keith Smith          uunet!ksmith!keith            5719 Archer Rd.
Digital Designs      BBS 1-919-423-4216            Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
From: aliu@usc.edu (Alex C. Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: TSX-11 suggestions/questions?
Date: 8 Sep 1992 23:24:43 -0700
Organization: None to Speak of
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Keywords: grepping things and submitting things?

Hi,
	I was just wondering what is the best way to submit things to
tsx-11?  Do you just ftp it to incoming?  Or do we have to send e-mail
to somebody special?

	Also, would it possible to grep things in the mail archive
trough FTP?  I mean, sometimes I want to look for something in
particular, and going to the mail-archives and getting EVERYTHING just
to find some file in particular is wasteful and time consuming.  What
it would be nice is to be able to somehow grep for a string in the
mail archive directory.   Is that possible?

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________________
Alejandro Liu           |EMail: aliu@usc.edu |All mispellings are intentional
1551A Ridgecrest Apt A  |Voice: 213-264-9400 |Anything mentioned here is not
Monterrey Park, CA91754 |                    |necessarily true.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: Problem with strip?!?!?
Organization: Borland International
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:48:20 GMT

mayfield@saffron.cs.ucdavis.edu (Doug Mayfield) wrote:
> What is the problem with the `strip` utility that some people keep
> talking about???  I have had some problems with it also and was
> wondering if they were the same.

The problem is most likely a bug in the truncate fs code that Linus
recently found and fixed.  If you're having trouble with strip on a
minix fs, you should not have a problem any more using 97pl4.  If you're
using the (alpha) extfs, it should be fixed in 97pl5.

..Wayne..
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,alt.uu.future,alt.uu.comp.misc
From: jonathan@nova.next.nd.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Compiling TCSH
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:26:09 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

I downloaed tcsh.tar.Z which contains a tcsh.a and Makefile. I am using the
MCC interim release of Linux that is currently on the archive site (tsx-11).
The problem is I get:

tcsh.a(sh.o): Undefined symbol _setjmp referenced from text segment

this appears about 12 times and the compile stops from various locations
(sh.parse.o, tc.func.o) etc.

What am I missing?  The strange thing is it worked fine when using the SLS
distribution!!!!! (Which I removed in favor of MCC)
--
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  WNDU-AM/FM/TV South Bend, IN | Disclaimer "My opinions are not my employers"
  - "Busy life, not enough time to look in the mirror." - Deborah Ann Gibson -
From: vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: mail-based-archive-servers under linux?
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:07:58 GMT
Organization: none

in the DOS world, there are several mail-based-archive-servers
that you can run off packages like UUPC and Waffle to allow
folks to request files from your archives be uuencoded, splitm
and sent in pieces via mail.

I know there are several for *nix, but all seem to work off
of .forward files (which Linux doesn't support, does it?).

Without a /usr/ucb/sendmail (ie, with only smail2.5 or 3.1)
are there any *nix archive-server packages out there that
run under linux?

-- 
   ---------   Vince Skahan   -----------   vince@atc.boeing.com   ---------   
	I've finally realized that if you throw enough money and bodies
	at non-existant problems, that they really do appear...
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Compilation speeds (was Re: No patchlevel 3.}
From: jmeyers@desire.wright.edu
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:38:02 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

> (the most significant factor for compiling would, as has been said here 
> before by those more knowedgable than I, probably be the amount of memory.  
> Increasing from 2M to 16M on the 385sx/20 would likely reduce the time 
> to under an hour).
  
   I started out with a AMD 386 '33, 4Mb memory, IDE 120Mb drive (~700Kb 
   through-put), and a kernel build from scratch took ~ 1 hour 20 minutes.
   After adding an additional 4Mb of memory, the kernel build from scratch
   took about 15 mins.  Additional memory makes a big difference...

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 Wright State University                         jmeyers@hyperion.wright.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: Clue?
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:46:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.003401.15081@m.cs.uiuc.edu> najem@dante.cs.uiuc.edu (Ziad Najem) writes:

[ A bunch of stuff deleted.]

>or if the archive is still compressed and you're using GNU tar, use:
>
> $ tar -xzvf /dev/fd0H1440 
>
>Also, since linux now has autodetecting disk type, you can simply use:
>
> $ tar -xzvf /def/fd0

And if you ARE NOT using GNU tar (as many of us now use the "pax" version),
you have to use zcat and pipe the output to tar without the "z" option.

Doesn't everybody just love trying to answer these questions when we have
more than one version of a program?  :-)


-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson
* ujlh@sunyit.edu        "Some day I might have a real .signature!"
From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: gcc 2.2.2 math lib bug???
Keywords: weirdness
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:19:15 GMT
Organization: Monash University

Oops forgot...I use gcc2.2.2d release with mcc-interim release....

Jae
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: clock.exe
Date: 6 Sep 1992 18:52:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu




could someone please direct me to the location of clock.exe or clock.pas???
They don't seem to be on tsx-11 and I don't have the space to unpack
Xsrc just for one file.

BTW, what is the address for archie??? I forgot it over the summer. :)

Thanx in advance.

-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis      "There is no middle ground/Or that's how it seems/For 
Thieves Like Us        us to walk or to take/Instead we tumble down/Either
mal11@po.cwru.edu      side left or right/To love or to hate."
					-A Strange Kind of Love
From: hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Captain Action Figure (tm))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: gcc, tcsh, recompile kernel
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:23:47 GMT
Reply-To: hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu (Captain Action Figure (tm))
Organization: Creative Sensualities dept, Jacquie's House of Underwear

hi again...

i think i managed to get gcc 2.2.2d installed, but i'm not really sure...

when i tried to compile tcsh, i got 9 errors that say:
tcsh.a(foo.o): undefined symbol _setjmp referenced from text segment

and then 1 that says that more undef'd _setjmps follow...

i wanted to recompile the kernel, from 0.97.1 to 0.97.5, but when
i get to compiling console.c into console.o, the system stops.
well, either it stops, or it takes about 4 hours to compile...

i've been typing ''make disk'', since i boot off drive a and have 
root installed on a partition of the hard drive, /dev/hda1.

is there something obvoius i'm doing wrong? i'm not even sure how
to describe my setup, but i tried my best.  any help is appreciated.

thanx.

--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erik@dexter.psych.umn.edu (Erik J. Arthur)
Subject: Minor Mgr Problem
Keywords: MGR
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:43:22 GMT

Hi,

I recently compiled MGR, and am having a problem with the tty in the new windows.
The error message reads something like:

tty not available (Invalid argument)
no job control in shell

What do I need to do to get around this?  I am using 0.97p1, tcsh6.01 and 2.2.2d.

Also the blitlib.h file that is called from vga.c is missing but all of
the functions are defined in bitmap.h as well.  Is this a problem?  MGR
runs fine.

Thanks in advance,

Erik Arthur

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From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: gdb 4.6 compiled with gcc 2.2.2d
Date: 4 Sep 92 07:23:43 GMT
Reply-To: LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Manchester

In article <20107@plains.NoDak.edu> grosen@isc.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (Johannes Grosen) writes:
>Is there a binary of gdb 4.6 compiled with gcc 2.2.2d anywhere?
>I simply don't have the disk space to do it myself.

The gdb.image from the latest MCC interim version of Linux contains
a statically linked binary of gdb 4.6 compiled by gcc 2.2.2d, together
with libg.a and a formatted man page.  Simply rawrite it to a floppy,
mount the floppy on /mnt, cd to /, and type /mnt/install_gdb.

     -- Owen
     LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
From: genie@netcom.com (The Genie)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Jove for GCC 2.2.2d
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:40:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


Hi.
This is a request for those several of you who have
been able to port Jove for the Linux system.
I know that there are 2 ports of Jove available
at the ftp sites over the world, but they all
use gcc 2.2.2, and seem to crash with the
newer release (d).  Even with the old shared
libraries, the binary gives a core dump.

Could someone who originally ported the program
modify it again for the newer shared libraries?
Or if you have a working version of jove
for the new library please share your
wealth!  :)

I'd do it myself, but am only a beginning
programmer who doesn't know much besides
the commands printf("Hello, world!\n")

:)


Gene

BTW, jove is the best unix editor available
in my opinion.  Small, fast, and contains
most of the features available in GNU Emacs.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: colin@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Colin Manning)
Subject: Re: QIC 40 / QIC 80 ?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:15:36 GMT

liljeber@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mika Pekka Liljeberg) writes:

>In article <1992Sep3.174918.9822@uoft02.utoledo.edu> billp@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Bill Parquet) wrote:
>> I've seen a lot of discussion about this.  The people who were working on
>> that for 386bsd complained that the timing requirements were extremely tight
>> for running qic 40/80... At least too tight for a multitasking environment.

>So these people have actually managed to get some specific info on how to
>access the tape drive! Was the driver a general one, or for a drive from
>a particular vendor? Do you remember the names of these people?

>The subject of QIC 40/80 tape drives crops up every now and then. So far
>nothing has come of it, because no-one seems to know how to program these
>beasts. I've been under the impression that the information is proprietary.
>Please prove me wrong! :-)

You can get the QIC documents from
QIC Drive Standards, Inc.
311 East Carrillo Street
Santa Barbara, Cal. 93101
Tel: 805-963-3853
Fax: 805-962-1541

(extracted from an article posted on comp.unix.bsd - there is some discussion
there also)

>> If it were really necessary, I'd much rather have a tape backup program that
>> ran in some sort of exclusive mode than nothing at all.

>Agreed. The main objective is to be able to _use_ a tape drive. If the rest of
>the system is down for the duration, so be it.

>	Mika
>--
>Mika Liljeberg			Email:	liljeber@kruuna.Helsinki.FI
>Helsinki University			Mika.Liljeberg@Helsinki.FI
>Dept. of Computer Science
--
Colin [colin@cs.curtin.edu.au]

"Knowledge is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where to find them."
                                                                  -anon.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rjhe@oce.nl (Rob Hegt)
Subject: Trouble installing SLS
Summary: Loading RAM-disk hangs
Originator: rjhe@hp6-ws1
Organization: OCE Nederland B.V.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 06:58:49 GMT


Hello all,

Yesterday I installed my new HD (234MB!!!!), and thought I could now
re-install Linux from the SLS disks. I didn't come very far, though.

Somewhere during the "Loading RAM-disk ...." the system hangs.
I have installed Linux before, using the MJ-package without any (real)
problems. Although I didn't use this installation very heavily, it
seemed to work without problems.

Does anyone have an idea about what might be wrong? I could use the MJ-
stuff again, and use the SLS-disks 3-15 to complete the system, but I
would rather be able to install from SLS only.

System information:
no-name 33MHz 386; Cache chip set
AMI bios
4MB

Thanks,
Rob Hegt

By the way, can anybody tell me what 'write precompensation' is. It is one
of the fields I have to fill in in the HD set-up of the CMOS.

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From: cole@concert.net (Derrick C. Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLIP and X386
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:04:15 GMT
Organization: MCNC Data Operations

In article <1992Sep8.151235.3292@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller) writes:
>[...]
>
>   ka9q - " .-.  .-  ----.  --.- " (that's Morse code :-)

Whoops!  Should be

    ka9q - " -.-  .-  ----.  --.- "

Just passed 20wpm!

73 de KC4WEJ,
Derrick

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alawrenc@sobeco.com (a.lawrence)
Subject: Re: Modem not responding
Reply-To: alawrenc@sobeco.com
Organization: Lawrence & Assc.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 13:34:16 GMT

In <1992Sep07.124143.13668@kub.nl> SBITCSC@KUBVX1.KUB.NL (P383 592188 Bosters) writes:

>I recently installed the MCC 0.97p2 version of Linux, (it's great). But now
>an having the problem that kermit and minicom refuse to work with my MODEM.
>It tried /dev/ttys1 /dev/ttys2 and /dev/modem; all seems to fail. The Modem 
>doesn't even react to AT commands.
>Anybody out there can give me a clue?

I too have just installed MCC 0.97p2 (less than 24 hours ago).  Right
now I am using kermit to talk to my Usenet access host, after a little
trial and error.  Most probably you problem is that kermit is trying
to talk to the modem with 7 data bits parity on.  Try the following
in Kermit:

	set modem hayes
	set line /dev/ttys(whatever)
	set terminal bytesize 8
	set parity none

then try

	connect
	ATZ

the response show be OK from the modem.

Hope this helps....  BTW, when using Kermit I always key the Kermit
manpage running on another virtual console.


-- 
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