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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stryfe calls Scott and Jean "father" and "mother"!
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:01:47 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct1.091427.2851@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>In article <1ae0tmINN6pp@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, avatar@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Shayne Macfarlane) writes:
>> c60b-3fe@web-3f.berkeley.edu (Mikel Bancroft) writes:
>> 
>>>In article <1992Sep29.143702.13206@uceng.UC.EDU> sweide@uceng.UC.EDU (Steven Weide) writes:
>>>>Just a little comment on the "mother" and "father" issue.  If you take
>>>>Stryfe's comments in context with the rest of the sentence, he could mean
>>>>something different.  He is saying something about Jean and Scott 
>>>>somehow creating the future (I can't remember exactly) so he could mean
>>>>"mother" and "father" in the sense of whatever he was talking about, not
>>>>his own mother and father.  Just a little thought that they can use that
>>>>if they want to change all their clues and have Stryfe not related to
>>>>Jean and Scott (but they wouldn't do that now, would they?)  :-)
>> 
>>>Well Stryfe also referred to Scott and Jean as the King 
>>>and Queen and himself as the Prince.
>> 
>> A small point, but he refers to himself first as the 'Prince', then to
>> Scott and Jean as the 'King' and 'Queen'.
>> As I read it, there is no implication of any relationship between them.
>
>Sigh.  As one of the early proponents of the "Cable = Nathan = Stryfe"
>theories (not on the Net, though), why do I get the idea that some
>people won't accept it even when Stryfe comes out and says, "Yo, pops,
>remember me?  I'm your kid, Nate.  Y'know, Nathan Christopher Summers?
>etc.etc.etc." ?

Because we won't.  Because we refuse to.  Because we have no reason
to.  Because we expect better things from the X-books.  Because,
because, because, because,   Because of the wonderful things he does!

Oh.  Sorry.  We now return you to your regular newsgroups.  (Except
for good ol' rec.arts.comics.  *Sigh*)

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 15:29:08 -0400 
From: "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Shatterstar Dead...not quite
	<1ad35iINNmgn@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU>
	<MemoyW_00UzxM3xugu@andrew.cmu.edu>

Shatterstar can also channel some kind of energy blast through his
swords, although this leaves him very drained.

Compulsive Comic Kid
From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Storm's Powers
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:35:12 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Wasn't it hinted at in X-MEN VS. ALPHA FLIGHT #2 that Storm's powers
might be magical in nature?  Did Claremont ever follow up on this?  I
don't remember it if he did.  The only way they could be is if they
had something to do with the "world-spirit" she called up in Africa.
Comments?
                                           -Drizzt
 
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From: lazarus@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The "NEW" New Mutants!
Date: 6 Oct 1992 02:35:13 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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In article <m0mbhPY-00013pC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>, rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>How about we let the original New Mutants remain "X-Force" and then have
>Professor X start a "new" New Mutants school.  The new members could/should
>consist of the prestently "unused" contingent of the Young & the Restless.
>
>Possible members for consideration:

(List deleted...)

>Whaddaya think?  Any others?

Well, here's a vote AGAINST the Power Pack becoming four New New Mutants.
Give'em back their OWN book!  :)  :)

(The only title that Louise Simonson DID write well, I might add...)

--
Bart -Laz- Smith
Kansas State University
'Cats - 19, New Mexico State - 0. Good defense.  Next stop, guess who?  KU. >;)
"Why should we get kicked for $125,000 when we could get kicked for $300,000?"
	-- Jim Hess, NMSU head football coach on not being able to get out of 
	   it's scheduled game(s) against Kansas State University.  ("What? A
	   KSU foe tried to get out of the game!", Wichita Eagle, October 1,
	   1992)
"Guess what?  George just got picked off... The inning is over, but who cares?
	George Brett got base hit No. 3,000, no runs, one hit, nobody left.  We
	go to the bottom of the seventh, the Royals 3, Angels 0, George 3,000."
	-- Fred White, calling the play after... well, it's kinda obvious... 
	   on Wednesday, September 30, 1992.  ("Announcer White had to put
	   milestone call on hold", Kansas City Star, October 2, 1992)

Congratulations, George.
From: joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Who is AHAB?
Date: 5 Oct 1992 18:45:03 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

Hmm, read it backwards.  That's right, Marvel's laughing at us. !(
                            (special one-eye-glowing smiley! __/^)

-Jon Kung, fast becoming one of America's most prolific writers, because,
 hey, quantity, not quality, is my motto!
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From: merricb@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (The ELF)
Subject: Re: Shatterstar Dead....Muhahahahaha
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:56:58 GMT

n8943689@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Elric of Melnibone) writes:

>First off I wish shatterstar would stay dead, but this is Marvel
>the home of the never ending hero/villan.  I figure that Shatterstar
>will be on the verge of death, and the X-freaks will feel sorry for
>him spend lots of money and technology (that they could have used
>to save Professor X but he doesn't sell as many comics as Shatterstar)
>to save him.  He'll then feel dishonored 'cause Wolvie didn't kill
>him that he will have to leave the team, go off to some far distant
>land, and Marvel will give him his own series.  Every issue of his
>new series will be a foil embossed/hologram cover with 10 different
>variations (all for the fan boys of course) and the price will be
>at least $4.95 each.

I don't mind Shatterstar living if FN is writing him. He's a good character
for FN... but not many other writers can do him possibly.

My personal animosity is for Feral. Does anyone think that they're getting
ready to get rid of her? Notice how she goes psycho, and just won't obey
Sam's orders. Not to mention that no-one but Liefield seems able to draw her.


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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:23:50 EDT
From: <JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: RE: Rachel, Nathan etc...
 <1992Oct2.171113.26580@decuk.uvo.dec.com>
 <02OCT92.25279017.0060@VM1.MCGILL.CA>

In article <02OCT92.25279017.0060@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, CXMP <CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
says:

>Aha!  So Cable/Stryfe could be *our* Nathan and Mr. Sinister could
>be the other.  Anyone know what issue is being referred to here?

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>Terminal freeze, duplicate posts, lost posts and email-come-posts,
>these are a few of my least favorite things.

I believe (and someone else mentioned in an earlier followup (shows who's been
paying attention :-) ) that it was in the What If... issue called "What If
Professor X Had Become the Juggernaut?"

BTW, anyone know the proper pronunciation of "Xavier"?  I've heard it 2 ways:
   "eks-ayvee-er" and  "zay-vee-er"
Everyone feel free to post...I don't like fifty million replies to a minor
question in my readerlist. :-)
Cheers,
Chainsaw the .sig-less
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 15:32:35 -0400 
From: "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Just a thought

>wrong person (Sunspot)).  This was an intriguing plot and now it's probably in
>the trash.  Also, if it's Canball's rebirthrth then shouldn't he be more 
>powerful?

Cannonball is more powerful now.  He has recently been able to expand
his blast field to encompass as many as a dozen people.  I'd say that's
a significant change.


Compulsive Comic Kid
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Bishop
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:06:53 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <BvILGK.vu@acsu.buffalo.edu> v083lmh8@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Fred @ UB) writes:
|>
|>	I just thought of something really sick.  No one knows too much abou
|> Bishop, right?  What if it turns out to be that one of the X-Men happens to be
|>his ancestor.  Now, what if he causes that person not to have a relationship
|> with the other ancestor and he can't be born (get what I'm hinting at?). 
|> Then, he will not be born, and then there will start a vicious cycle of never-
|>ending stories of time travel twists.  Now, what if this ancestor was Storm?!?
|>What if he's his own great, great, great, great, great (etc) grandfather?!?
|>	Also, if everyone who comes back in time effects the past so that 
|>their present will never happen, then that means that they will never happen.
|>So, how can they come back in time and effect the past(present).  Thus, if they
|>don't come back in time to stop their present, then their present will happen
|>and they'll come back, stop their present and they will never happen, thus, if
|>they don't come back in time to stop their present, then their present will
|>happen and they'll come back... see what I'm getting at?  Time travelling
|>should've never have been invented, cross dimensional travelling is acceptable,
|>unless someone comes up with an argument against that.
|>	Just another opinion to make you go 'HHMMM'

Just another opinion to make you go "Yeah, whatever," more like it.

"How could I have been so blind?" -- Reed Richards
"Astigmatism?" --Richard Darwin
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From: scostain@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Sean Edward Costain)
Subject: Re: Why I hate Wolverine... An opinion poem and an invitation
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 06:04:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.114611.59112@cc.usu.edu>, sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>		Why I hate Wolverine...
>                 	by wReam...

	That was one of the most truly historic pieces of prose that I have
read in a long time. :)  I agree with the fact that some people have the amazing ability to adore a character to the point in which  they (the character) are
invincible. Just out of curiosity here, does anyone know of a comic in either
Wolvie or Spidey haven't guest starred???
	Got to cut this short its tut time.


			Dae Aini

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Keep smiling   8-)
From: dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: General Ideas
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:50:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <ROBI.92Oct5103624@raven.bacchus.esa.oz.au> robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au writes:
>In article <90716@netnews.upenn.edu> dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
>(Patrick McClue) writes:
>
>: I always wanted to see some relationship between Siryn and
>: Wolfsbane...
>
>Hmmmmmmm, could be _very_ interesting ....
>
>: after all, her adopted mother is "kinda dating" Siryn's
>: father...which would make them sisters in some way.
>
>Oh, *that* sort of relationship, I thought you meant another sort.
>
>	- Robi

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Robi, you know, I never thought of it that way, but hey! it might work!
Theresa maybe just the person to get her mind of Alex :) ....but this is Marvel
we are talking about.  Look how long it took Northstar to come out...and even
though he did, they are not doing much with it.  But I do like the idea of
Jeanne-Marie not liking "Jean-Paul's announcement" but Aurorra's (sp) thinking
it was cool.  (Alpha Flight is another book I look in the stors but don't buy
anymore...)  I always thought she knew..but then, maybe it was ok as long as 
no one else knew about it.

And I am wondering...this group is X-books, but it seems like Alpha Flight
is a part of the X-Men family (their first leader was Wolverine and they are 
the original "X-Men spin-off".  New Warriors are now (thanks to Fabian) a 
part of the X-verse too.

Patrick
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:29:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20766
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>	Also, didn't Supremor claim that the Eternals were the results of Kree
>tampering?  Or was it the inhumans, since I seem to remember the Eternals
>being created by an experiment of Cronos' or Mentor's.   Any one know?

Sigh. Once again, for the midterm:

	the Celestials, those big, boring space dudes with the funky color
		schemes, they created the Eternals, Deviants, and inserted
		the X-factor gene in the rest of humanity
	the Kree, all they managed to do was create the Inhumans

Mentor most certainly has not done any genetic engineering, at least to my
knowledge. Kronos has done more, what with his reviving of Drax. But
anyways...
-- 
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From: masulliv@ecs.umass.edu (Michael Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The Acolytes (was Re: Cable as Nathan, and traitor
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:07:43 GMT
Distribution: na

> But didn't Quicksilver make mention in an issue of X-Factor that the bit 
> with Lockjaw talking was some kind of joke?  I vaguely remember reading this
> and as Obscure Trivia Lad (tm--maybe I should be Trademark Kid :-)) you of
> all people should be able to tell me if I remember this correctly.  What I
> _do_ remember of it is Pietro talking about practical jokes, and trailing
> off with some line about the joke he and someone else pulled off on Ben
> Grimm, to make him think Lockjaw could talk.  Hmmm....PAD, do you remember
> this?  
> 
> The Walrus


I believe Marvel Boy tried to talk to Lockjaw in an issue of New Warriors.
(or was it the older Vance from GOTG?)  He tries to talk to Lockjaw since
Ben Grimm told him how Lockjaw can speak.  One of the inhumans explained
how it was just a joke they plaid on Ben Grimm, and that Lockjaw is not
an Inhuman.
								Mike S.
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: MORE X-ECUTIONER'S SONG SPOILERS
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:53:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20749
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>8.  CABLE IS GOING TO COME BACK AND KICK ASS.
>	That's no theory, that's a certainty!

That's no promise, that's a threat.  :-<

"You HAVE to have heard of me! Everyone knows about me!" -- Cable
"Not in my book."  --Richard Darwin

	--last month's Richard Darwin
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From: jgreene@dorm.rutgers.edu (Jeffrey Greene)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Sinister
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:09:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

foregone@stein.u.washington.edu (Ah so Grasshopper!) writes:

>In article <tmunson.718297700@cwis> tmunson@cwis.unomaha.edu (todd s. munson) writes:
>>Anyway, what did Mr. Sinister recieve in the little container?  Could he have
>>recieved the remains of Doug Ramsey and Warlock?  I wouldn't put it past him
>>since a) he hates Prof. X and b) Warlock and Doug are the only ones that have
>>the means (supposedly) to cure the techno-virus.  Finally, Mr. Sinister can
>>clone live tissue (he did so with Madelyn Pryor), can he also clone dead 
>>tissue (hence the 'creation' of Douglock)?

>B O I N G !

>Geez, now this is an interesting idea...thanks for letting me see the
>connection! Only one problem with this theory...I thought that in X-Song #3,
>the Beast and Moira said that although the technovirus is like the Magus',
>it is always changing...so how would Warlock/Douglock be able to cure Prof. X?

The reason no one can currently cure the professor is that the technovirus is
constantly changing, correct?  What if there is a pattern to the change?
Something so minute that no one could break the code in time.  No one except
Cypher, the mutant who can crack any code or language.  He simply needs to
study the virus and then he'll be able to anticipate the next mutation.
Combine Cypher with Warlock and you can not only theoretically cure the virus,
but you have the power and ability to do so.

-jak
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Who was the Traitor?
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:44:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <80639@ut-emx.uucp> aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:
>  
	Sorry bout that last one.  My terminal's been havin' more than a few
problems.  To sum up my eloquent-yet-vanished-into-hyperspace last message,
the traitor has not yet come.  In X-Men 8, where Bishop has a cow over the 
subject and nearly kills Gambit, the bozo gets intoduced to everyone.  He 
recognizes Forge as "Genesis" -- thus, until Forge changes his name, all will
be well with the children of the X.
	Oh, and Bishop not knowing of himself through history recordings 
means squat.  Gambit (future) erased most of his own records -- why not 
take out Bishop's altogether (to perserve the space-time vortex or something)?
	Makes sense to me.

			Until Sinister steams his head shut,

				King Rat signing off!
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From: dardiswa@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Wayne A. Dardis 1500099)
Subject: Re: Ideas to help the mutants (was: Re: X-cutioner's Song)
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:47:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.033116.14252@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang) writes:
>In article <06OCT92.15498278.0089@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP) writes:
>>>13.  Restore the Magneto characterization
>>
>>I don't think CC's Magneto characterisation has changed that much over
>>the years.  We've yet to see how Fabian will handle him.
>
>Hold it!  Have they given any indication that Magneto is comin back at
>all?  If they have it must have been pretty stuble because I missed it
>completely.
>
>August Paul Yang is just waiting for Marvel to turn Magneto into an
>electromagnetic elemental.  Oops!  Wrong Company!
>wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

I haven't seen any obvious hints either, but in a wizard interview with
Jim Lee, he was asked if he parted with marvel on ok terms and he said
yes and that they were even going to continue with some of the plots he
had worked out which included a thing going with Betsy and Scott and
the eventual return of Magneto.  This is all paraphrased cuzz i don't 
have the mag with me and i know it's not in stone or anything, but it
does look likely.


-Psycho


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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: You know you're in trouble when...
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:23:05 GMT

.. the x-men animated series adaptions blow away the real comics.

Hopefully with the new blood on X-Cute it will change...

Scott
 
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From: debg@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ginsberg deborah)
Subject: Random Thoughts
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:03:48 GMT


A couple of things from the last week or so.

1:  From the rec.arts.comics.info FAQ:
* How do you spell/pronounce the last name of artist Bill Sienkiewicz?
        It's spelled as above, and pronounced "sin-KEV-itch".
It may not be Slavically correct, but shto delatz?

2:  On the Akkiko matter:  Why was she allowed to age about 5 years
from X-Men 182 (?) to the Kitty/Wolverine miniseries and (alas) Kitty
was not?  

3:  Yes!  Yes!  Please give me Rob Leifeild's job and all those other
artists too!  If I thought I had a chance . . . .
In the mean time , I'll continue to critique thme and qualify myself to
critize lawyers.  


Debbie
From: c60b-3fe@web-3f.berkeley.edu (Mikel Bancroft)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Why I hate Wolverine... An opinion poem and an invitation
Date: 26 Sep 1992 22:18:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3f.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep26.005044.21269@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
>In article <uplink.717293963@cwis> uplink@cwis.unomaha.edu (John M. Scheibeler) writes:
>>Ultimate Ninja ... :)
>>y'know, I >like< this guy!
>
>wReam,  I don't think I'd take this as a compliment concidering the source!!!
>
>----SCAVENGER not even letting a sour presence on the net sour his day!

Just make sure you dont turn into one SCAV. :)
Keep up all the good work. we appreciate it.

Mikel B.
"Talk Hard." - HHH