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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: sexism??
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 06:01:55 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

trump@iastate.edu (The Trumpster.) writes:

- In article <9LeDqB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
- >I know Mike S. has originally brought this up, however..
- >
- >From my club's point of view, their seems to be a discussion on which female
- >companions has either the greatest bust or the the greatest body.  I don't m
- >this myself, provided that it can be discussed in a mature-like manner.
-
- Well, there is some topic for debate, especially in the latter stages of the
- show when the casting people had to cast, erm, near-models because the show
- needed sex appeal. (Dont deny that. Planet of Fire is a sadly obvious example
-
- >Any similar problem with other clubs  in the world, or am I just going up a
- >cul-de-sac?
-
- Hrm...I know someone who seems to be devoted to the 'Who Babes'(hey...that's
- what he calls 'em). I dont view this as so much of a 'problem' but a certain
- side-effect from the casting changes of the late 80s.
-
- >Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
- >userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
- >God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
- >cowboy (n): A 20th Century extension of  the neanderthal caveman.
-
- Who rangled some of the most rugged country and lived out of a can and
- tamed the wild and the wooly, but otherwise, yes.
-
- Frank Trumpy
- trump@iastate.edu
-
 As the Beatles would put it from Strawberry Fields forever :
"Living is easy with eyes closed, Misunderstanding all you see"
BTW, what did JNT want to do with Nicola Bryant, not to mention the way he
wrecked up Bonnie Langford on the show.

-
-
-


Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
From: otten@quark.umd.edu (Neil Ottenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Dr. Who Classic Comics (was Re: DWM Issue 191...)
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:15:18 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <01GOCYC6NGC28WW0X6@kinni.acc.uwrf.edu> steven.k.manfred@UWRF.EDU writes:
>
>
>Some highlights from the "Gallifrey Guardian" of the new issue
>of Doctor Who Magazine (191):
>
>The Comic Strip is the best one all year.  For once, I love the artwork,
>and the simple one-part story called "Memorial" for once seems to work
>within its limited timespan and doesn't make the Seventh Doctor so
>manipulative that he is unpleasant, unlike some previous strips...

>And as usual, the issue is topped off with another installment of 
>"The Daleks" TV21 strip.
>
In December Marvel Comics will be releasing the first issue of Dr. Who:
Classic Comics.  The description of the book in the Westfield Newsletter
is as follows:  "For the first time, classic Dr. Who strips from the
past will now be re-published in full-color in a monthly 48-page comic
book.  This classic collection features material that has never been
published in the U.S. and will include the immensely popular Daleks
strip.  Also included is a free photographic poster of the third Doctor
and monsters."

My question is just how well done have the various Dr. Who strips been?
Is "The Daleks" as "immensely popular" as we are led to believe?  

Thanks,

Neil Ottenstein
otten@quark.umd.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: Boyd <BOYD@UNB.CA>
Subject: Americans and Who
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:29:21 GMT

In article <199225.752.12088@dosgate> "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com> writes:
>-> DN|  Perhaps an American producer should take it over and do it
>-> now... 8)
>
>-> JS| I think I'd rather have it stay dead.
>
> Me, too. I get ill thinking about it. I hope NBC doesn't get wind of
>this. :-/

   Well, the three of you seem to be in agreement here (not the smiley
in the first post).  Personally, I find your attitude rather elitist,
verging on racist: to think that because a person is born and/or raised
in a certain country makes them incapable of producing a certain style
of television is a gross and insulting generalisation.

   Furthermore, you seem to be assuming that nobody who produced an
"American version" of <Doctor Who> would be uninterested in preserving
the flavour of the original.  Who in America but a <Who> fan would be
interested in producing the show at all? I think it is very likely that
a competent producer/director could be found to create something closely
resembling that to which we have all become happily accustomed.

   Dale: if you're still really bothered about an American-made <Doctor
Who>, what would you think about getting it done in Canada (or one of
the other less-rebellious colonies)? Canada has sold a number of good
shows internationally.  Now that I think of it, that doesn't seem to be
such a bad idea ....

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From: neal@RIEMANN.MATH.MUN.CA (Neal Crossan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Greatest Show
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:05:08 GMT


  Since there seems to be some discussion regarding the various roles in
The Greatest Show In The Galaxy I dug up this old article from the days when
we use to have new episodes to discuss.  The writer was James C. Armstrong,
a name I'm sure some of you will recognize.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I did not like The Greatest Show In The Galaxy, I felt that it was a mean
spirited parody of the state of Doctor Who. (I have had some corroboration
that this was the case.)  This was originally planned as JNT's last show, if
he were to leave after last season, and as such was his parting comment.  
Roles in TGSITG were related to real stereo-types:

       TGSITG                                   Earth to-day

  The Stalls Lady                              Non-fan British public
  The Ringmaster                               JNT
  The Fortune Teller                           JNT's secretary
  The three people in the stands               British fandom "passing judgement
  The Chief Clown                              Michael Grade
  The Gods of Ragnarok                         BBC Executives
  The Whizz kid                                American fandom
  Nord the Vandal                              Fans who want to "tear down the 
                                               show"*

I did not like this.

* I am told that I may be among those people parodied here...  The idea was 
worked on right after my article "The Doctor and Racism"

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

   -Neal Crossan-
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: cshuy@zeus.calpoly.edu (No One Knows)
Subject: Re: Any more of the Shada script?
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 16:47:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep02.214900.135211@zeus.calpoly.edu> cshuy@zeus.calpoly.edu (No One Knows) writes:
>At the end of 'Shada-part 4', it says to be continued next posting.
>Anyone seen that next posting?
>
And could someone please e-mail me the next posting?  My newsfeed got flaky 
when it was posted and I never got it.

Thanks in advance!

-- 
"Five to one against and falling...four to one against and falling...three to
one...two..one...probability factor of one to one...we have normality, I repeat
we have normality.  Anything you still can't deal with is therefore your own
problem."		-from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
From: hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Daleks by Davros, strong enough for a man
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:26:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19964
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

One of the great evil things that Davros did was to make the Daleks
utterly without conscience.  When called on it Davros's response
made it quite clear that it was deliberate.

In article <sy08PB2w164w@kryton.UUCP> ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:
>"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
>NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"

"Yes." -- Vanderdecker, from Flying Dutch
-- 
Mike   hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu
"I still thing it's garbage, but beautifully cooked."   --  TP on TP
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Wanted: Quizze Arbitration panel
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:04:14 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) wrote:
>Due to conflict and contraversy, I think that this quizze master should call
>upon netters who are non-quizze participants to help the quizze master in cases
>of contraversy.  This way an unbiased panel can override bad decision by any
>quizze master.  Openings are now available.

My question is: what is the prize such that an arbitration committee is needed?
If there is none, then why go to the trouble? Moreover, Dave, it's your quiz,
you should have predefined rules to deal with such situations. Suggestion (1):
throw such questions out and just count the others. Suggestion (2): define what
are allowable sources (i.e. shows only, novels too, articles about the shows,
etc.).

Tom
From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Davros (WAS Re: What Dalek book should I read???)
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:34:06 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology

Distribution: na

In article <1992Aug27.210236.6985@news.iastate.edu> trump@iastate.edu (The  
Trumpster.) writes:
> Davros did NOT create the Daleks. The Daleks are his people with the  
mutations
> accellerated. Thats what they would look like in the future.

At least, that's what Davros told them...
 
> Well, that's one of those bits where one writer picks up and distorts  
another.
> Davros was a VERY intelligent and non-bad guy until the Davison writers  
took
> him over. He was the victim of his own intelligence.

That wasn't the impression I got from Genesis and Destiny,
but that's only my opinion.
(TB's Docter referring to Davros as 
"The evil genius who created the Daleks"
is probably one of the things leading to my opinion)

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: hermit@dastari.uucp (Mark Buda)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: RETURN THE EPISODES!!
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:08:12 GMT
Reply-To: hermit%dastari.uucp@devon.lns.pa.us
Organization: Avalon Computing

In article <105.1004.uupcb@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> dave.yadallee@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Yadallee)  writes:
>   Pledge for episodes, and call for the elimination of the the movies,
>during the next Doctor Who run when PBS go pledging.

When I first started watching Dr. Who, WITF (Ch. 33, Harrisburg, PA)
used to show complete stories on Saturday afternoons. They didn't show
the movie versions, they showed all the episodes in a story
back-to-back.

*That* is the way it should be done.
--
Mark Buda

I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free.
From: barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Long live Sylvester McCoy
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 11:09:36 PDT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

mrmuon@next03epsl.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:

> it anymore. I don't mind "the Greatest show in the Galaxy" that much; I  
> was a bit cynical about it until someone explained to me that it is an  
> allegory of Doctor Who itself. One story I like, although I have no idea  
> why, is "Paradise Towers".

Please amplify on the allegorical aspects?

thanks

==================================================================
Barry Mishkind
barry@jab.tucson.az.us
From: duzan@titan.cis.udel.edu (Gary D. Duzan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Hartnell-Troughton Regeneration Sequence
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:20:09 GMT
Organization: Your Organization Could Be Here!

In article <1992Aug28.165117.627@wam.umd.edu> mrmuon@next03epsl.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.053933.21773@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>  
>bv925@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert J. Corrigan) writes:
>> 
>> I've seen all the regeneration sequences except the first, and
>> they've been totally different each time.
>> 
>> What did the first one look like? I DON'T want to spend ~$20 just
>> for that one clip on "The Troughton Years!"
>
>It was a simple fade, essentially the same as the Pertwee-Baker  
>regeneration. I think the last three regenerations were done essentially  
>the same way, except for the watcher in 4-5.

   Also, if I remember correctly, the change was accompanied by the TARDIS
materialization (materialisation?) sound effects.

                                        Gary Duzan
                                        Time  Lord
                                    Third Regeneration



p.s. Please note that while I have regenerated again, I am leaving my
signature the same to correct an earlier misnomer. I essentially went
from "Gary Duzan, Time Lord" to "Gary Duzan, Time Lord, Second Regeneration"
to "Gary Duzan, Time Lord, Third Regeneration", skipping "First Regeneration".
Now that I am on my fourth body I am correcting the error. In case you
are interested, this incarnation is still 6'5" and incredibly good looking
but no longer has a beard. :-)
                                         GD,TL,TR



-- 
                             duzan@cis.udel.edu
   _o_                       ------------------                         _o_
 [|o o|]       Virtual Reality? No thanks, I've already got one.      [|o o|]
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From: neal@RIEMANN.MATH.MUN.CA (Neal Crossan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: The Macra Titles
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:05:41 GMT


  As was pointed out DWB #87 does show the Macra Terror beginning with the
new titles.  More interesting, under the section on Technical Observations
it says;

   The Macra Terror saw the introduction of a new title sequence and
re-arranged theme tune.  The Radiophonic Workshop restructured Ron Grainers
original score synching it in with the new titles, designed solely this time
by Bernard Lodge.

   Now in the CMS edition for The Macra Terror (which is used virtually 
word for word in the above article) it said;

   The Macra Terror marked the last use of the standard Doctor Who
opening title sequence and title music.

   Both were written by Jeremy Bentham.
 

     -Neal Crossan-
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (rock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Americanising of the 
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 15:35:20 EDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

DL>From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
DL>>In article <FLD7PB1w164w@kryton.UUCP>, ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Becks
DL>>>perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg) writes:
DL>>>
>>> 
>>> When I heard that they were considering an American version of "Red
>>> Dwarf" I nearly lost my lunch.  No way would the American networks e
>>> allow a show with that level of depravity to see the light of day.  
>>> can't even image what a sanitized version of "Red Dwarf" would be
>>> like.  "Hi, Honey, I'm Home" in outer space?  Don't tell me they're
>>> going to allow the word "smeg" on NBC.
DL>>Hey, I'm a moderately well educated American, and I don't know 
DL>>what the smeg "SMEG" means. (Seems to be used as a synonym to
DL>>"figurative excrement".) I bet it would pass the censors.
DL>
DL>The first time I saw Red Dwarf, I had no idea what 'smeg' meant, I thoug
DL>was just an amusing exclamatory made up for the show (similar to Battles
DL>Galactica's ubiquitous 'felgercarb'). Now, I hear it in more places, mos
DL>other British TV, but I STILL don't know what it means! I agree, I bet i
DL>would pass the censors.

Hmm, I always thought it was short for 'smegma', a pretty vile body
substance.  Check a medical dictionary or something for a more precise
definition.


"Sometimes what you say is going to get right in the faces of the powerful
 people who really run this world, but you don't care....  You know it's
 your place to challenge authority...."

Rockerboy, digital artiste' (rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us)
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Americans and Who
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:20:03 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <15165@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>>I dare say a collaboration between A&E and the BBC would work quite well
>
>This brings to mind a name:  Rebecca Eaton.  She's the American co-
>producer for "Mystery!", and actually helps put up funding for series
>such as the fabulous Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes stories.  That kind
>of collaboration might actually work.
>

This sounds extremely good to me!  
So why don't we try and get hold of her and see what she thinks?
Perhaps a bit of pull from someone who is already a trading partner with
the BBC could rouse them from their lethargy?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: melvin@alien.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Tomb and questions.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:40:07 GMT


>I agree that Tomb of the Cybermen was great.  However, why is it that we never
>see the outside of the Tardis, or did I miss it?  

There was about a 10 second segment showing the TARDIS exterior just after the
opening music sequence.

-Joe
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Results from Quiz 5 and Now Quiz Part 6
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 06:17:40 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (JJ Glamma) writes:

- yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
-
- >*3)  Name the first DW to feature Patrick Troughton's face at the beginning
- >     of the show?
- >     The Macra Terror
-
- Not according to Peter Haining.
-
- > And now, Episode 6, purely on Doctor Mk 3:
-
- >1)  How did the Doctor track down the TARDIS in "Spearhead from Space"?
-       Homing Device.
-
- >2)  HOw did the Doctor explain the Republic of Britain in "Inferno"?
-       Two explanations given. One was that Britain had sued for peace in 1940
-       and later had a fascist coup of its very own. The second is given in
-       "Apocalypse" and states that that parallel Universe's version of the
-       Doctor had set himself up as the leader of Britain on his exile.
-       Nothe that these are not necessarily contradictory.
-
- >3)  From "Terror of the Autons",  what do we know about the Doctor's and the
- >    Master's academic careers?
-       The Master did better.
-
- >4)  Which planet is Azal from ?
-       Daemos (Sp?)
-
- >5)  Who detonated the bomb in "Day of the Daleks"?
-       Shura.
-
- >6)  Who played Stuart Hyde in "The Time monster"?
-
- >7)  Who said in the end when the TARDIS returned to UNIT HQ
- >    "I told you he had no self control"  from "The Three Doctors"?
-       The Second Doctor.
-
- >*8)  How did the Doctor escape from the Spiridon city?
-       Using a sheet of plastic and the updraft from the Daleks' cooling
-       system.
-
- >9)  Name a famous 'allo! Allo! Comedienne who appeared in "The Invasion of t
- >    Dinosaurs" ?
-       Carmen Silvera
-
- >10) Describe how the Doctor was to leave the show while Roger Delgado was
- >    still alive.
-       A final showdown between the Master and the Doctor, when the Master
-       would sacrifice his life to save the Doctor, who would nevertheless have
-       to regenerate.
-
- --
- -----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------
- JJ Glamma                          | "Hey look... The Sarge and Dietrich ain'
- aka James William Patrick Bennetts |  dead, man... their signs are real low,
- jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU         |  but they ain't dead!"
- -----------------------------------+ "Then we go back in and get them!"
- When in doubt, use brute force.          | "F*ck that!"
-               -- Ken Thompson    |    -- PFCs Hudson & Vasquez, on loyalty.
- -----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------
-
  Excuse me, but the answers are supposed to be privately mailed, NOT
publically posted!

With this, is might have to come to a ruling!

Everything is now on hold.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
cowboy (n): A 20th Century extension of  the neanderthal caveman.
From: TheMadDoctor@cup.portal.com (Shane Derek Killian)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: "SHADA" US release {Update}
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 16:52:39 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Aug19.200744.4817@wam.umd.edu> <17c821INNmtr@festus.ksu.ksu.edu>

>On another note, I was at Delecon 2 (A Starfleet convention) in Kansas City in
>the beginning of July, and a guy from the local PBS station was there to host 
a
>panel discussion on Doctor Who.  During this discussion, he showed us an exist
i
>ng
>video of Shada, which was a rather old (and much copied) tape, with the missin
g
>scenes being described by storyboard.  Quite jarring to go from actual filmed 
o
>r
>taped footage to dead silence and a storyboard...

I saw the same tape. There was a scene where the Doctor and K9 were
talking, but K9's voice hadn't been put in. Will this be fixed on the
video release?
From: shimkus@athena.cs.uga.edu (Peter Gambit)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Dr Who film reported official!
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:54:02 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <H3ZJqB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert) writes:
>gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>
>- 
>-    Apologies if this is old news! I heard on the Children's TV news
>- program recently (the one in the slot that was for years occupied by
>- John Craven's Newsround) that the Dr Who film is now official and WILL
>- go ahead very soon. Choice of Doctor is still to be decided, but the
>- favourite at time of report was Dudley Moore (!). Take this news as you will.
>- 
>
>Hmmmm....I've heard that just too many times before. I guess I'll just 
>wait until actual filming starts!! In my opinion, doing a Doctor Who 
>movie now would probably be a sure money maker since we are all starving 
>to see something new from Doctor Who....
> 
>I just hope that it's not Dudley Moore! Get some one unknown is What I 
>think thay sould do!
> 
>Vlad
>
>
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>< Vlad G. Pohnert                            >> First thought that >
>< "BAKA no Baka" Fanzine Co-ordinator        >> Gato has after     >
>< Want a career in Anime?                    >> seeing the GPO3:   >
>< Join Strike Force Baka and help kick butt  >> "Gundam in a       >
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>breadbox!!" >>>>>>>>

Actually, I wont believe it until it's in my theatre. *laugh*  Ive been
strung along by this one far too long.

As for Dudley Moore, why not?  the man just happens to be one of the finest
character actors in the cinema today.  Or have you not seen any of his early
films with Peter Cooke?  Bedazzled was one of the funniest, best paced and
developed movie I've seen, and Moore has appeared in serious films as well.
Don't judge his entire career on Arthur (which was, in fact, also a tremendously
funny movie.)

Yours in Time,
Peter Gambit
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