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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Pool trade....
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:38:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.013317.12117@oz.plymouth.edu> d_jaracz@oz.plymouth.edu (David R. Jaracz) writes:
>So, I'm in my fantasy hockey game, and I make the following trade:
>I trade Jeremy Roenick and get Dmitri Kvartalnov and Ron Francis.
>
>Whaddaya think? ")

Not considering Francis' age, this trade is excellent; Kvartalnov is not as
good a scorer or passer as Roenick, but Francis will make up some of the
assist differences, and Kvartalnov and Francis, combined, will not get as many
penalties as Roenick.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: harrison@mpr.ca (Jeff Harrison)
Subject: Re: Line Score of Flames/Canucks Game of the 4th
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 18:11:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.104448@masg1.epfl.ch> silver@masg1.epfl.ch (Edward Silver) writes:
>Can someone please provide the linescore of the Flames versus Canucks game
>from last Wednesday. All I know is the final score of 5-5.

1st Period
----------
1.  Vancouver, Courtnall 9  (Sandlak, Nedved)  9:09  (pp)
2.  Vancouver, Ward 2       (Adams)            9:33
3.  Calgary,   Suter 3      (Roberts, Reichel) 15:31 (pp)
4.  Calgary,   Fleury 5     (Suter, Makarov)   17:05 (pp)
5.  Calgary,   Fleury 6     (Roberts)          18:50

   Penalties:
   Linden Vcr (boarding) 0:28, Lindberg Cal (interference) 2:41,
   Smyth Cal (elbowing) 7:20, Smyth Cal, Dirk Vcr fighting majors 10:02,
   Otto Cal (highsticking), Ronning Vcr (slashing, cross-checking) 14:20,
   Courtnall Vcr (unsportsmanlike..) 16:08, 
   Otto Cal, Momesso Vcr (roughing) 17:42, Suter Cal (holding) 19:29
   
2nd Period
----------
6.  Vancouver, Ward 3       (Linden, Adams)    18:07

   Penalties:
   Linden Vcr (interference) 0:43, Makarov Cal (unsport..) 1:41,
   Odjick Vcr (unsport..) 6:31, Momesso Vcr (charging) 9:52,
   Diduck Vcr (high-sticking) 11:53, Sandlak Vcr (slashing) 12:43

3rd Period
----------
7.  Vancouver, Courtnall 10 (Ward, Plavsic)    8:47
8.  Calgary,   Fleury 7     (Roberts, Reichel) 11:24
9.  Vancouver, Adams 4      (Ward, Lumme)      13:48
10. Calgary,   Otto 5       (MacInnis)         18:48

   Penalties:
   Musil Cal (roughing) 6:29, Fleury Cal (holding) 9:14,
   Trefilov Cal (served by Wilson), Ronning Vcr (slashing) 10:15

Overtime
--------
No Scoring.

   Penalties:
   Johansson Cal, Courtnall Vcr (misconducts) 4:59



Shots on Goal:
  Calgary 	13   9   7   1-30
  Vancouver	15   9  13   2-39

Goal:
  Calgary: 	Trefilov (T, 0-1-0)
  Vancouver:	McLean (T, 4-4-1)

Power-Plays:
  Calgary: 	2-8
  Vancouver:	1-6

Referee:
  Kerry Fraser
Linesmen:
  Shane Heyer, Jean Morin

Attendance:
  13,655


Jeff Harrison
- harrison@mprgate.mpr.ca

I'm a loyal hockey fan, 
I love the Vancouver Canucks,
I don't care if they score,
They're always worth the bucks.
	- Black Bart
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: U.S. "Dream Team"
Date: 6 Nov 1992 01:40:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, prb@chinet.chi.il.us (Paul Botts) says:

>It may never happen, but suppose the NHL does decide to have its players
>join the 1994 winter Olympics. Obviously Canada's "Dream Team" woulkd
>have the bulk of the NHL stars, but I'm wondering whether a US team
>would be able to be competitive, at least for a medal?
>
>Just off the the top of my head I can think of three Blackhawks
>All-Stars who are U.S. citizens: Chelios, Roenick and Belfour. How many
>other NHL All-Stars are there who would be eligible to play for the
>U.S.? What might a U.S. Dream Team lineup look like? How would it
>compare to a Canadian one?

Belfour isn't American.  The goaltending would be from the Rangers, both
Vanbiesbrouck and Richter.  there are a lot of other good American players too.
Brett Hull, for one.  Check out the roster of the 1991 Canada Cup.  Brian Leetch,
I believe, is American too.  Joel Otto.  Gary Suter.
>

-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
University of Michigan Class of 1996
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Subject: Re: Pens-4 NStars-1
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:04:45 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <BxKAII.uy.1@cs.cmu.edu>, lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
> Quinn met the woman.  After dinner Quinn and the woman went to a local hotel, 
> where the alleged rape took place.  Quinn turned himself in the next day, and
> has denied the charges.  The police said that no other NStars and no Pens were
> being charged. (This info was heard on KDKA Radio this morning.)

I bet she's just pissed because his cheque bounced.

								Alan
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From: stripsky@methane.vnet.ibm.com (James M. Stripsky)
Subject: Re: Players who changed the sport
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 13:06:45 GMT
Reply-To: stripsky@methane.vnet.ibm.com (James M. Stripsky)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

What about the "Broad Street Bullies"?  That was a team that won through
toughness and intimidation.  If it moved, they hit it.  If it didn't move,
they would make it move, and then hit it.  Even with a few superstars, the
emphasis was on team play and discipline.  Sounds like any team that Mike
Keenan coaches.
 
Jim
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Detroit/Tampa Radio Report
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:47:24 GMT

The game was on radio, so the notes are not extensive. It was the 3rd sellout
of the season (10,425) and I think some of them were Red Wings fans. It was
hard to tell if the chants were for the Lightning or Red Wings. Tampa's deadly-
of-late power play was instrumental again tonight (7 goals in the last 13
chances).

1st: Very early, Cheveldae shot the puck over the glass for a delay of game
penalty and it cost him. Bradley scored a power play goal at 1:18 from Hodge
and Kontos. Hodge's dad (who played for the Bruins with Espo and Cashman) was
on hand. Jr. is getting nervous that he isn't scoring. Detroit tied the game
on a power-play goal at 10:27 by Fedorov from Ciccarelli and Lidstrom. Tampa
had just killed off a 5v3 but couldn't hold out on the 5v4. Less than two
minutes later, K.O. Kontos scored a power-play goal at 12:04 from Zamuner and
Ramage. Late in the period, Zamuner scored another power-play goal at 18:27
from Crossman and Ramage. Score 3-1. I think Tampa was 3 of 4 on the power
play in the first.

2nd: The only highlight was a goal by Beers from DiMaio and Cole (missed the
time) to make the score 4-1. Beers has 4 goals since coming from Boston's
minor league team (6 games I think). Perhaps he should have played more.

3rd: The final period was a little too interesting. Yzerman scored at 0:42
from Sheppard and Probert to make it 4-2. I think there is some stat that
Detroit wins when Yzerman scores (not sure though). It looked it would be
irrelevant when Kontos scored again just 23 seconds later at 1:05 from Bureau
and Bradley to make it 5-2. About a 1/3 of the way through the period Detroit
hit the post. At 9:34, Carson scored from Drake to make it 5-3. It was getting
a little scary as Detroit mounted pressure. It got really scary when Chiasson
scored from Howe at 18:42 with the goalie on the bench: 5-4. That Yzerman
stat came to mind again. Creighton got an empty netter just before the clock
expired at 19:59 to seal the win: 6-4.

Headline News said the Tampa "surprised" Detroit. I don't think we can call
it a surprise any longer. Tampa had gone 3-0-1 in the last four with the last
three games on the road. Tampa has played the Norris tough, going 3-3-1 before
tonight. I don't think it was a surprise, because I figured Detroit had seen
enough examples to be ready. Perhaps Cheveldae dug a hole they never wanted to
get into by giving Tampa a power play that they cashed in on. Detroit outshot
Tampa 34 to 24.

Tampa is tied for 1st in points with Toronto, but have played 3 more games.
Kontos has 18 goals in the team's 18 games, and is finally starting to collect
assists regularly. Tampa has four more home games coming up with Ottawa in on
Friday and Calgary on Saturday (I'm going to this one).

3 stars: 1 - Kontos, 2 - Zamuner, 3 - Yzerman

Tom
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From: tvorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tommy Che Vorst)
Subject: Rookies
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:23:27 GMT

Interesting that all of the talk about the Calder is centered around Joe
Juneau and le grand Eric.... Especially since Teemu Selanne has proven
himself to be the most worthy of the three so far.

Yes, I'm in Winnipeg, but look at who won Rookie of the Month in October.

Three most satisfying moments of the upcoming season?
		1.  Regardless of any further failures, the Jets will
embarrass the Canucks in the playoffs.
		2.  Quebec finishes with a better record than the Flyers,
Lindros is NOT elected to all-star team.
		3.  Sanley Cup for........The Boston Bruins.

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
  Tommy ( Yogi )                              Dept. of English, UofM
                (the REAL UofM - nyaaaah Vid! (Minn.)) 
                     email:  tvorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca  
            ....residences in Canada, France, and Holland.
                       "YAAH! DEATH TO OATMEAL!"
                   Remember: it's just my opinion.
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Subject: Czech Upper Cards
From: Kevin Polcovich <KAP118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:47:05 EST
Organization: Penn State University

I  have received many requests for  the  Czech Upper Deck hockey cards
released in Czech. Many people included in the set  as  you may know
have no  other cards, thus being  their only rookie. I have said
before that a couple of  sources peg the case allotment of  these cards
as  only 700, making these cards very rare.
     What follows  is a listing  of the major players in the set,
most have been drafted and their cards are getting much attention.
If you have any questions about the cards let me know.  I have listed
prices, but for a reasonble sized order I can negotiate  prices.
            UPPER DECK  CZECHOSLOVAKIA SET:
      Complete Set  of 100  cards  is $85
(Supplies  Limited)
      Cards not listed below are .75.
      Wax Pack (12 Cards to a  pack) for $8.00
      Wax Box (34 Packs)  $190

#     Player                 Price
1 -Description Card          $3.00
11-Kasparaitis,D.            $8.00
12-Yashin,  A.               $7.00
16-KOVALEV, A.               $33.00
18-Cherbayev,A.              $4.00
19-Krivokrasov,S.            $8.00
24-Jaks,P.                   $3.00
39-Varvio,J.                 $3.00
59-LaPointe,M.               $4.00
74-Ferraro,C.                $4.00
79-LaChance,S.               $13.00
82-SITTLER,R.                $22.00
83-Ferraro,P.                $5.00
85-Tkachuk,K.                $6.00
86-Rolston,B.                $3.00
88-HAMRLIK,R. (Drafted 1st Overall-First Card)$40.00
91-Caloun,J.                 $4.00
93-Petrovicky,R.             $15.00
95-Vopat,J.                  $3.00
97-Palffy,Z.                 $5.00
98-Droppa,I.                 $8.00
99-STRAKA,MARTIN             $16.00

Everything limited to supply. Prices include shipping in contential US
ONLY! Mail me back, I will answer your questions and get back  to you
right away. Prices subject to change, since this is very limited.
Not responsible for typos.
                           Thank You.....Kevin
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From: John_Carson@mindlink.bc.ca (John Carson)
Subject: Re: 5th and Final '91-92 ProSet giveaway
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:24:59 GMT

I am sending this re:giveaway.

JOhn Carson
13091-92Ave
Surrey, BC
V3V 1h5

John
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From: mcp@usday32.Dayton.NCR.COM (Mike Perkins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: SABRES Update: Malarchuk, Fuhr
Date: 4 Nov 92 13:57:19 GMT
Reply-To: mcp@usday32.UUCP (Mike Perkins)
Organization: Dayton Unix Tower Support Center


>
>The other think that hurts the Sabres is the Phillippe Boucher. The kid is
>a real liability on defense and single handedly cost the Sabres the 
>game vs. NYR last night. Hardy's cheap shot to Patty Lafontaines head didn't
>help much either. If Muckler had suited up Ray and Donnelly a real brawl
>could have happened. Domi had the check of the game but the only one
>to yap at him ( in your face is popular these days) was Andrychuk. Dave
>played a fine game until he cross checked a Ranger in the ear with 20 seconds
>to play in regulation....and NYR won in OT (7-6). It was an exciting but
>strange games. Marvelous Dave M. called it weird but to no ones advantage. 
>BTW, Hardy's cheap shot went uncalled and did put Pat out for the game.
>

Not to one teams advantage... Hardy should have gotten 5, if not thrown
out of the game.  Domi should have gotten 2 - high sticking is above the
waist, Domi't stick was shoulder high.  Kmylev was also high stick right
in front of Maroulli with no call.  These are three specific examples of
non-calls.  Now lets talk about the Rangers two-man advantage in the first
period( may have been early second).  Ramsey was called for something, I
still don't know what it was as he never touched anyone on NYR(literally).


The only time that Moroulli called anything correctly was when he called
first Boucher then Andreychuk late in the game. They were both penaltyies.
I must defend Andry-clutz a bit though( not something I like doing ), if
I were him, knowing the shit job that Maroulli was doing, I would have 
cracked the Ranger over the head too.  The Ranger player started to take 
a run at him so Andrychuk hit him first.


Before I'm flamed.. I don't usually blame a lose on the refs, but this
game was ridiculous.( In fact I'm still amazed at a 4 min penalty that
was called against Ottawa against Buffalo for attempted spearing, the
guy missed by a good 2 feet in a half-hearted swing of the stick).
Even   Muckler, who is usually supportive of officials is quoted as sayingi
 "I'm not supposed to critisize the referees, so I won't, but the calls
 were obvious".  Obviously holding back what he wanted to say.

-- 
Mike Perkins
NCR Corporation
Dayton, OH
mike.perkins@daytonOH.NCR.com
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From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson)
Subject: NHL coverage on TV in Europe
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: eunet
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:58:36 GMT


 Ville J{{skel{inen and I have been wondering about ScreenSports coverage
 of NHL hockey this season since no advertisements have been seen yet.

 So I faxed ScreenSport and got the following good news.

 ScreenSport starts broadcasting NHL hockey in December. Coverage begins
 Monday 7th at 18:30 ( 19:30 CET ) with a "week in review".

 ScreenSport will continue with NHL up to May's Stanley Cup.

 Staffan

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From: nin15b34@merrimack.edu (Mike Machnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: BADGERS (college hockey in general)
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:46:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In article <1992Nov3.181829.7307@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, edmondso@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Edmondson) writes:
> jhamache@slate.mines.colorado.edu (HAMACHER JOHN ERIC ) writes:
> 
> 
>>       Are there any Wisconsin Badgers fans who are displaced and miss the
>>weekly beatings delivered to helpless WCHA lollipops?
>>I'd like to communicate with you.  Let's play hockey! 

Just to let fans of college hockey know, there is a mailing list devoted to 
the sport.  You can subscribe by sending mail to listserv@maine.maine.edu and
in the body of the message, put the command

SUBSCRIBE HOCKEY-L

There is also a list for Division III hockey, and the address to subscribe is
hockey3-request@hooville.mitre.org.  Requests for this list are handled by a
real person while the hockey-l list is automated.

> Rich Edmondson, Huntsville, AL   (home of the UAH Chargers, who got
> edmondso@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov     invited to the NCAA Tourney last
>                                   year, but didn't have the $ to go)

Not the hockey tourney?  Alaska-Anchorage got the invite as the top
Independent team (the Independent bid is gone this year).  Alabama-Huntsville
dropped down to Division II this year because they felt they could be more
competitive there; also, because the NCAA DivII tourney was reinstated and
the DivI tourney now has no more Independent bid.  UAH was just up here last
weekend and was swept by Merrimack, 6-3 and 6-1, but they looked good enough
to be a challenger for the DivII title in March.

By the way, one of the goalies for UAH is Derek Puppa, brother of Daren.  He's
a sophomore; didn't look too bad in losing that 6-3 game last Friday but he
isn't of the caliber of Daren who helped RPI to an NCAA title.
---
Mike Machnik    nin15b34@merrimack.edu   Color Voice of the Merrimack Warriors
(Any opinions expressed above are strictly those of the poster.)    *HMN*
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From: sjvander@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Steve Vandereems)
Subject: Joe Juneau
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:32:01 GMT

Sorry!!
I made a mistake.  I don't know why I thought he was American.
He should definitely play for Canada then.
I think Toronto beat Pittsburgh tonite 4-2 (Yeah Leafs!!)

Steve Vandereems

Go Senators --- Stanley Cup Champions 1999-2000
Go Leafs    --- Stanley Cup Champions 1992-1993
From: nccs1011@blurt.oswego.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: CORNELL HOCKEY !!!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:25:00 GMT
Organization: SUNY College at Oswego, Oswego, NY



Hey Tark!
     Hi, my name is Tracy, I go to Oswego State, but I'm originally from
Ithaca.  I've gone to CU games for many years, but now that I'm at school,
I don't get to see as many games as I'd like!!  I know a few of the players
now, I used to know more (Dan Ratushny, Kent Manderville, Trent Andison, 
Steph Gauvin) before they left :-( !!  I miss seeing the games, (division
3 isn't QUITE like div.1 !!) Listen, if you'd like to keep me informed on
team it'd be GREAT!!  Yell a few "Lynah chants" for me!! Write Back!!

                             DUNBAR'S IS THE BEST !!
                                   Tracy :-)
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From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: European hockey league
Date: 8 Nov 1992 05:46:08 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Well, Paris is a very doubtful hockey market. Hockey is undoubtedly
growing in France, but starting up a NHl team in Paris now, well I don't think
it's a good idea. Hockey is still a minor sport in France, surely you can
attract fans for a few big games, but lots of matches... No, I don't think so.
The Albertville Olympics was the first time French TV showed hockey live
and they didn't show much of the World Championship.

Paris are overall a ppor sports market, 15000 fans are really unrealistic
in a long term view, maybe the first year, but then... Just look at the football
(soccer), PSG have the best team in France and just drew 25000 (approx.)
and if they are doing poorly, the crowd are much lower.

It would be better to have a team in for example Lyon.

And I wouldn't support a team in Stockholm, that's for sure!

Please send copies of answers by E-mail, otherwise, I'll probably not
reading them...

Kent
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From: LMARSHA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Laurie Marshall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Detroit/Tampa Radio Report
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:44:27 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT

In article <BxnrvB.1KI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
mpreslar@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Martin Preslar) writes:
 
>
>chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller) writes:
>
>>deal is with the Wings though. In my opinion, there are too many first
>>line centers on the same team! Let's get rid of Jimmy Carson, and Paul
>>Yserbart. Maybe we can pick up a solid defenseman for the two of them.
>
>>- Dan
>>  Wings in 92'-93'
>>  Da Chill in the ECHL
>I agree with the part about getting rid of Carson for a good D-man,
>but I don't think getting rid of the teams top winger from last year
>(Ysebaert) will go anywhere toward solving the problem.  Perhaps
>putting him back on a line with Federov and Burr like they used last
>year would help.  But hey, I only get to see an occasional game down
>here in "there are hockey teams other than the Hawks and Blues?" land,
>so I'm just happy to be able to watch the Wings Battle the Pens tonight
>on ESPN!
>
>GO WINGS!!!!
>Marty
>
 
Ysebaert has been playing on the same line as Fedorov and Burr for
the last 5 games or more and he's still not scoring like he did last
year.
 
Laurie Marshall
Wayne State University
Computer & Info. Tech.
Detroit Mi.
GO WINGS!!!!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:46:23 EST
From: Kevin Polcovich <KAP118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Martin Straka RARE Rookie For Sale

I have a limited quantity of Martin Straka's firstand rare rookie card!
This card is made by Upper Deck and was distributed only in Czechloslavokia
Some cards in the total 100 card set got over here. It is told by many sources
that Upper Deck made only 700 cases of these cards (compared to 10,000 to
a million that other card companies make.) Most cases stayed in Czech!!!
The cards are very nice and are written in both Czech and English. This is
avery rare item of a player who will add excellent talent like Jagr to
the Penguins. The price is $15 which includes p&h in the contential US.
Mail me if interested. Also some other cards are available for the Czech set.
    A Classic Straka rookie is also available for $7 which includes P&h.
                              Thank You....Kevin
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