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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: bsd386 & msdos in 1 micro
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:18:10 GMT

Peter C Tam (br.pct@RLG.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: Hi,
: 
:   May be this is a FAQ, but I certainly do not know where the FAQ is.
: 
:   I try to configure a 386/486 with IDE drive for: MSDOS, Window 3.1,  OS/2, 
: BSD386. The problem is 386/486 only boot off C disk. But looking  at things, 
: BSD386 seems to have a different file system than MSDOS (true?)
: 
:   Does that implies I have to at least have 2 disk partitions, one for  
: BSD386 & 1 for the rest (MSDOS, Windows3.1, OS/2), & FDISK to activate  
: whichever partition?
No. And it is better to put BSD not at the first partition, at least for DOS.
386bsd uses the first 14 sectors for boot-up. The first one can be loaded from
another partition, and it actually do it in protected mode.

: 
:   Or have 2 hard disks, one for Unix, one for the rest, but than what 
: happens to the boot off only C drive restriction Or is some micro has boot
: drive configurable from CMOS?
: 
:   Or is there another solution to this?

i	You cannot put 386bsd on the 2nd disk because 386bsd boot code, only
loads from the first one. That is my understanding after examining its boot
code.

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From: pundt@math.uni-muenster.de (Thomas Pundt, Informatik)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Problem with printer driver
Date: 12 Nov 1992 12:22:37 GMT
Organization: Westf. Wilh.-Universitaet Muenster, Germany.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pundt@math.uni-muenster.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.uni-muenster.de


Hi all,

I have a problem concerning the printer device drivers written
by Wolfgang Stanglmeier (dated 92-08-19) and Andy Valencia
(dated 92-09-08).

When I try to print a graphics file (eg DVI file), the first 10
lines of a page will be printed rather quickly. The rest of the 
page occupies the printer for about 10 minutes.

Does somebody have a solution for this problem?

My configuration: 386/25 with 8 MB.
My printer: HP Deskjet (16 KB printer buffer).

BTW: This problem does not occur while printing text files.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Pundt
pundt@math.uni-muenster.de
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From: glenc@netcom.com (Glen Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Opps.... [386bsd] Help with install
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:47:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Thanks for the reply!

	But I did forget to mention I did get the wd patch bootable from
berkeley the same day.I cannot figure out why it won't continue with
the high level formating of the BSD's disk storage.. Any ideads?


-Glen Collins (glenc@netcom.com)
	      (fred@seer.gentoo.com)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: ae007@yfn.ysu.edu (Daniel Newcombe)
Subject: xv binaries
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:38:26 GMT


Are the binaries for xv available anywhere?  I had them
starting to compile, but compiling X stuff on 4megs
just doesn't quite cut it.
  -Dan
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: dresselh@rft30.nas.nasa.gov (Eliot Dresselhaus)
Subject: Floating point trap woes on 386BSD
Organization: Columbia U.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:45:45 GMT

Has anyone managed to get enquire.c to compile from the GCC 2.3 dist.
I fear it is triggering bugs in the kernel's handling of floating point
exceptions.  Can anyone shed light on this?

-- 
- eliot
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From: burgess@hrd769.brooks.af.mil (Dave Burgess)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Has anyone ever needed a 'shell script' for 386BSD-install but me?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:45:51 -0600
Organization: Armstrong Lab MIS, Brooks AFB TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hrd769.brooks.af.mil

Hi all,
  I have been at this now for a couple of weeks, and think I have figured a 
bunch of it.  Like it says in the subject, has anyone but me ever needed to know 
what the dist.fs install program did?  I know that the automated version makes
the installation very nice and all, but I have been at points lately where if
I had a 'shell script' version of this program, I may have saved myself MANY
hours.  Has anyone got such a beast laying around loose?  If so, could it be
placed on ref.tfs.com or agate.berkeley.edu please?  If for no other reason, it
might help to be able to follow along without having to take a program's word 
for the success or failure of one or more steps.

TSgt Dave Burgess
NCOIC AL/MIS
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: hbj@engr.uark.edu (Bernard Johnson)
Subject: Re: [386bsd] Colorado Jumbo tape drive device driver.
Organization: University of Arkansas
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:16:02 GMT

cullend@bnr.ca (Dave Cullen) writes:

>In article <raz.721539888@syzygy> you write:
>|> 
>|> 	- Get the QIC-40, 80, 117 specs. These are the minimal set
>|> 	to get started. QIC-117 is apparently particularly tricky
>|> 	to implement.

QIC-117 is VERY difficult to implement.

>|> 	- Research floppy controller I/O. Apparently the drive
>|> 	doesn't even look like a floppy to the floppy chip! What
>|> 	this means in practice, I have no idea.

You will be talking to the floppy chip by sending it seek commands.  Seek
commands cause the drive to be sent a train of pulses (Tend -Tstart pulses).
Each length train of pulses represents a different QIC command.  So, it is
almost as if you had a serial link to your drive because you are talking with
only one line bye toggling it.

>|> 	- Research the DMA and beware of its limitations.

You can only transfer a maximum of 64k using DMA transfer (please correct me if
I'm wrong).

Bernard Johnson
hbj@engr.uark.edu
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: 386BSD or LINUX?
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:54:16 GMT
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

------
spedpr@thor.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards) writes:

As time goes by I think you'll find that 386bsd has more thought put
into it. Linux developes very rapidly but not necessarily along the
right lines. Shared libraries is an example of this, they've been
available in Linux for quite a while but it's not the best
implementation. We may have to wait a while before they get put into
------

I think it is a matter of opinion. Shared library under Linux is not
perfect. But it serves its purpose. If you take a close look at Linux
implementation, you will find out there is very little overhead in kernel
and user space. No tools need to be changed. No new tools are needed.

We welcome new ideas. When 386bsd comes up a new implementation for
shared library, Linux will use it if we think that is better than the one
we have now.

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Wolter)
Subject: [386BSD] mtools, textmode, SCSI
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:30:52 GMT


Hi !
Hm, I don't get many answers but I try it again.
Is there anyone who made mtools accepting the dos-partition ?
It don't work (not even with the entries described in FAQ).

Is there an utility that resets the screen to normal textmode after
using a bad X-windows-mode ? Booting costs time...:-(

And again the question if there's someone who knows where to get the new
SCSI-Drivers ?
Please answer by mail.
Thanx,
	Udo

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: dpletche@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Pletcher)
Subject: [386BSD] getting the network running
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:05:26 GMT

I've just installed 386BSD on an AGI 3000D 386 machine.  Most things
seem to work now, but there are a few problems I need to solve.  Most
of the boot time configuration is shown and described below.

1)  On boot, my 3com 3c503 ethernet board is recognized, but I haven't
figured out how to get my system to talk to the outside world.  I've
tried modifying /etc/networks, /etc/netstart and /etc/hosts.  I put
our router address (with a made up name; I don't know what it is
called) in /etc/networks.  I uncommented the ec0 ifconfig line in
/etc/netstart and added in the actual address at some point.  I put my
host name and number in /etc/hosts.  Could someone tell me exactly
what I need to do to configure the network?  (Incidentally, the board
is definitely not talking to the outside world; when I try to telnet
no packets ever go out and it eventually times out.  I can telnet to
my own host number of course.)  Incidentally:  nslookup still tells me
on startup that my host number is 0.0.0.0.

2)  When booting from the hard drive, 90% of the time the system
freezes the first time it tries to read from the hard drive (before it
ever boots).  This problem does not occur when booting the MSDOS
partition.  Randomly pressing keys during the startup diagnostics may
or may not be helpful in getting 386BSD to boot successfully...

3)  When the system actually boots from the hard drive, the top floppy
never turns off after the system checks to see if it contains a boot
disk; any attempt to talk to either floppy crashes the system.  This
problem does not occur when I boot 386BSD from the floppy of course.

Here is the system info:
Some generic VGA card, 200 meg quantum PD210A HD with noname
controller (whatever that is)--floppies plugged into noname card,
Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller with SHARP JY700 5.12 optical drive,
3com 3c503 ethernet board.  I've disabled the Adaptec BIOS and
switched its unused floppy controller to the secondary address.
Here's what it says at boot time, minus some stuff that scrolled
off the top:

wd0 <QUANTUM PD210A> at 0x1f0 irq 14 on isa
as0 at 0x330 irq 11 drq 5 on isa
ec0 address 02:60:8c:3d:b0:cf at 0x250 irq 9 on isa
npx0 at 0xf0 irq 13 on isa
as0: attached tgt 0 <SHARP JY700 MODC 5.12> disk
as0b: not ready reading fsbn 0
(etc)

Please ask me if there's any other information that might be useful in
diagnosing the problem.

Thanks for any help,
David Pletcher
dpletche@jarthur.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: jnpotts@iastate.edu (James N. Potts)
Subject: 386bsd: telnet oddity
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:24:14 GMT

First off, I'll say that I do not have any real networks on my machine. (sniff)
With that out of the way:

In the past, when I've been testing different programs, etc, I have done a
"telnet 0" to connect to my machine and log in as a different user.  I've done
this many times without problems.

Recently, something happened to my machine (no, I never could figure out what),
and I had to reinstall the binary distribution.  I did this off of the same
disks that I originally used.  Now, when I "telnet 0" I'll connect to my
machine, but I can't type anything at the "login:" prompt.  Anyone experienced
anything like this?

James

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From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: [386bsd] tip problems
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:36:19 GMT

I'm having tip problems...  I've already avoided the uucp ownership
prob's by copying tip to mtip (user root).  My modem is a USR sportster
on com1, irq4 (internal -- no lights, sigh).
So I type 'mtip com1' and I get a connect, but I type 'at' and nothing
happens (no 'OK').
Any help appreciated,
Kurt
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: balmer@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: 386bsd and D-Link DE 200+
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:46:52 GMT
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland

I successfully got 386bsd up and running. Unfortunately it does not 
recognize my D-Link DE-200+ Ethernet adaptor. Does anybody know of
a driver for this Ethernet adaptor?

Are there possibilities for non US users to install DES and kerberos
alike functionality?

Thanks for your help,
Marc Balmer, University of Basel, Switzerland
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: 386BSD or LINUX?
Date: 5 Nov 92 03:25:19 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <Nov.2.20.33.38.1992.18690@remus.rutgers.edu> glenw@remus.rutgers.edu writes:

   As the subject heading says, which is it? Which is the better,more
   supported operating system (I know I'm going to get a lot on this
   one!)

Well, Linux's standard copyright is the Free Software Foundation's
GPL, whereas the 386bsd's standard copyright basically says "you
cannot remove this copyright".  In the long run, the GPL is a better
copyright, because it prevents people from making proprietary
improvements.  IMHO, of course.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.              315-268-1925 Voice  |  LPF member - ask me about
Potsdam, NY 13676         315-268-9201 FAX    |  the harm software patents do.
Xref: sparky comp.unix.bsd:8552 comp.os.linux:15948
From: oreillym@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael O'Reilly)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: IDE faster than SCSI-2
Date: 7 Nov 1992 09:50:50 +0800
Organization: Home
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Othman Ahmad (eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg) wrote:
: I posted an iozone benchmark using my 386/25Mhz machine which shows that
: it is slightly slower than a SCSI-2 hard-disk. Now with a 486/33, IDE is
: definitely faster than a EISA SCSI-2 486/50MHZ  hard-disk.
: 	Iozone uses normal unix system calls for writing to disks, after all,
: that is how we write C programs.
: 	I may try to run a more sophisticated file system tester called
: bi? later on.
: 
: 
:  JUlian's machine 
:  is a 50MHz EISA 486 with a 1.3GB drive attached via a Bustek 742a SCSI2
:  adapter. It has 16MB of ram. Part of the disk (about 200MB is taken up 
:  by mach2.6 and is unavailable to 386bsd.
: 
: I checked the load on this machine, it is very light. There is only another
: user apart from I.
: 
: iozone 1
: 
: Writing the 1 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...1.766667 seconds
              ^
	      ^ This is useless. It tells no-one anything. A one meg
file should fit entirely in the cache. So unless BSD is braindead, and
doesn't cache (which I doubt), then you have just measured the cache
speed. On my 486/33, 8 meg ram, a 1 meg files get 10 megs per second. 
The disk is never accessed, unless a sync kicks in 1/2 way though.

I don't know exactly what you measured, but it sure ain't disk speed.

: Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
: 
Michael
From: mccrory@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Help installing src01 and etc01.
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:08:43 GMT
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB

I have finally unpacked etc01 and src01 using the csh.  When extract attempts
Final installation: I get the message "Can't open /tmp/install.etc01" and same
for src01.  Is there a way for me to generate or find these files so I can
finish the installation?
Thanks.

Roy A. McCrory
Kirtland AFB, NM
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From: veit@du9ds3.uni-duisburg.de (Holger Veit)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: [386bsd] Announcement codrv
Keywords: codrv, keycap-0.1.1
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:36:28 GMT
Reply-To: veit@du9ds3.uni-duisburg.de
Organization: Uni-Duisburg FB9 Datenverarbeitung
NNTP-Posting-Host: du9ds3.uni-duisburg.de

A small, but important correction and clarification to my recent posting:

In <veit.720883677@du9ds3> veit@du9ds3.uni-duisburg.de I wrote:

>The new, improved console driver 'codrv' is available now
>(was keycap-0.1.0 before). See the enclosed man page below for details.

[...]
>In the same location, there is a precompiled up-to-date kernel and
>XFree86-1.1 X386/X386mono servers. There is also a FAQ which will hopefully
>answer many arising questions.

>This server will likely be part of 386bsd-0.2 (no, I don't know anything
      ^^^^^^
Should read 'driver'. XFree86-1.1 is neither official part of 386bsd-0.1 nor
"contributed to 386bsd" as the "codrv" driver replacement.

>about release date), the xserver modifications will be integrated into
>Xfree86-1.2 (again, no info).

Also, the fixes made to XFree86 are my own and are based on an unmodified
XFree86-1.1; this is not "alpha" or "beta" code of the coming version
XFree86-1.2. 

>Holger

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From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: 386BSD or LINUX?
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:19:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.201721.1036@gulasch.hanse.de> elmar@gulasch.hanse.de (Elmar Folba) writes:
>In article <Nov.2.20.33.38.1992.18690@remus.rutgers.edu> glenw@remus.rutgers.edu (Glenn Wasserman) writes:
>>As the subject heading says, which is it? Which is the better,more
>>supported operating system (I know I'm going to get a lot on this
>>one!)
>>...
>Not necessarily. Who, do you think, has significant and comparable experience
>with both systems?
>And: what is 'better'? Better suited to which purpose?
>

I've used both systems.  I switched to 386BSD because it had better
networking facilities and supported my NE2000 clone.  When Linux
networking improves, I'll probably put it back on one of my systems.

-- 
Jim H.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: rimkus@netcom.com (Mike Rimkus)
Subject: Re: [386BSD] Problems booting on Gateway 4DX2-66V
Summary: same problem on 486DX2-50
Keywords: 386 bsd boot problems gateway local bus
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:00:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.184048.2256@alliant.com> dufault@alliant.com (Peter Dufault) writes:
>(No one responded first time.  Micronics 486VL won't boot from floppy).
>
>You need the patch provided by "someone"@kithrup.com.  (sorry, the
>mail is somewhere else).  It changes the bit pattern that we are
>waiting to show up in one of the floppy control registers.


I have the same problem, but on a Gateway 486DX2-50 system (no local bus). Does
this patch help me?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: julian@tfs.com (Julian Elischer)
Subject: ref.tfs.com users
Organization: Trw Financial Systems
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:45:21 GMT

Could the following users please add .forwards to their home direcotries
so I don't have to resort to news to contact them.
Also, could Carl Quillen decide which ID he wishes to keep 8-).


Login: abe            			Name: Dave Abercrombie
Login: bakke          			Name: Jeff Bakke
Login: bob            			Name: Robert Innes
Login: rwillard       			Name: Bob Willard
Login: budi           			Name: Budi Rahardjo
Login: danson         			Name: ??
Login: darryl         			Name: 
Login: abe            			Name: Dave Abercrombie
Login: dave           			Name: 
Login: dlb            			Name: Dave Bartlett
Login: muir           			Name: David Muir Sharnoff
Login: david          			Name: David
Login: burgess        			Name: David Burgess
Login: davidg         			Name: David Greenman
Login: dvc            			Name: David Van Cleef
Login: delaroca       			Name: Denis DeLaRoca
Login: dufault        			Name: Dufault
Login: dws            			Name: 
Login: fabio          			Name: 
Login: fish           			Name: Fish
Login: fontenot       			Name: ??
Login: gch            			Name: ??
Login: geoff          			Name: Geoff Matrangola
Login: glenn          			Name: 
Login: gson           			Name: 
Login: gthelen        			Name: Greg Thelen
Login: hasty          			Name: 
Login: hphk           			Name: Hewlett-Packard
Login: julian         			Name: Julian Elischer
Login: kevins         			Name: Kevin Schroedel 
Login: lape           			Name: Lars Persson
Login: luigi          			Name: Luigi Rizzo
Login: luke           			Name: ??
Login: mdjb           			Name: Mark Bowyer
Login: mark           			Name: Mark Sienkiewicz
Login: mcnally        			Name: Mike McNally
Login: mdjb           			Name: Mark Bowyer
Login: meir           			Name: ??
Login: mit            			Name: ??
Login: mjj            			Name: Murray Jensen
Login: msuomala       			Name: Matti Suomalainen
Login: patrick        			Name: 
Login: pauls          			Name: Paul Southworth 
Login: pepper         			Name: 
Login: perelet        			Name: Perelet Oleg
Login: comrade        			Name: Peter Cooper
Login: peter          			Name: 
Login: pmcgilla       			Name: 
Login: polowski       			Name: 
Login: cbq            			Name: Carl Quillen
Login: quillen        			Name: Carl B. Quillen
Login: rjkm           			Name: Ralph Metzler 
Login: rwillard       			Name: Bob Willard
Login: shanny         			Name: 
Login: shimizu        			Name: 
Login: spoo           			Name: ??
Login: staylor        			Name: 
Login: stephens       			Name: 
Login: sxs            			Name: ??
Login: tbuskey        			Name: Tom Buskey Tbuskey
Login: toad           			Name: ??
Login: todd           			Name: Todd
Login: tra            			Name: Timo Tero Tapio Raty
Login: whedle         			Name: ??
Login: wilker         			Name: Clarence Wilkerson
Login: wright         			Name: Brian C. Wright 


New users should add a .forward when they get their UIDs assigned.
thanks
Could you also test them? some people seem to have defective 
.forwards..
e.g.
clclipper@csd.uwo.ca fails (should be clipper?)

julian
From: bs@Germany.EU.net (Bernard Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: gcc predefines (was: Re: [386BSD] Ghostscript 2.5.2 patches)
Date: 10 Nov 1992 11:46:58 GMT
Organization: EUnet Backbone, Dortmund, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: walhalla.germany.eu.net

In article <RICH.92Nov9085925@omicron.Rice.edu>, rich@Rice.edu (Richard Murphey) writes:
> ! #      if defined(_HPUX_SOURCE) || defined(__CONVEX__) || defined(__convex__) || defined(__OSF__) || defined(__386BSD__)

By the way (Bill, do you copy this ?):
the pre-defined __386BSD__ tends to *go away* and is replaced by the
(appearantly also defined) ____386BSD____ if you go gcc -ansi
I doubt very much that this is what was intended.

Greetings,
	Bernard
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