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From: mxx7655@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Question for Shi Chunde
Reply-To: mxx7655@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:09:19 GMT

In article <k+S-8DB@engin.umich.edu>, chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.080705.12773@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rsanders@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (RRobert M Sanders) writes:
>>>
>Let me answer the questions for Shi Chunde
>
>>1.  What has kept you from returning to China?
>
>He never said he would not return to China. Qian XieSheng, the
>father of Chinese rockets Long March series, stayed in USA for
>more than 20 years and was a professor in MIT before he returned 
>to China. On the time he left USA, the Secretary of State said 
>he was worth a division of army. Prof Qian has proven that he 
>is worth more than it.
>
>How much Shi Chunde will be worth when he returns to China?
>I guess more than 1 division of army.
>
>>
>>2.  What possible attraction does the US have for you?
>
>His university needs him and employed him. This is the reason
>for him to stay.
>
>>
>>Please do not get the impression that I am asking you to leave.  
>
>Well, maybe, you are afraid of another division of army will
>leave USA and join China.
>
>>
>>Robert Sanders
>
>J Chen
>Department of Chemistry
>University of Michigan

    I think you'd better let Mr Shi answer the questions himself so that no one
will challenge the adequency of the answers you'v given if we don't know if you
were authorised to be a spokeman of Mr. Shi regarding the following questions:
	1.Would Mr. Shi consider returning home?
	2.Would he be the second Prof. Qian?
          (If so,CIA or FBA would pay attention to Mr.Shi for they can afford
to give China an another Prof.Qian).
	3.He came here simply because the university needs him.What about China
also needs him?

Now,I started to think that USA will pass the protection bill because they are
afraid of 40,000 PHDs leaving USA to join China. Yes,40,000 PHDs,that probably
in equavalant 40,000 division of army! Just kidding!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: h234_045@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: I am so lucky!
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:46:15 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

I am so luky! Why? Oh, because there is no NBC here,only BBC!
                              Felix Jiang
From: yijun@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Yi Jun Yin; Phd)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Possible Chinese Medalists in Barcelona
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:32:31 GMT
Organization: /official/news/lib/organization

Keywords: Barcelona, medalists, Event, Olympics

>>>BTW, I have a day-to-dayt schedule for the Summer Olympics. Email me if you
>>>want to keep a copy.

I cannot get the address of the person who originally said this. Could s/he 
please send me a copy of the timetable?

Thanks in advance.

Jun (yijun@dcs.qmw.ac.uk)
From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Olympics opening ceremony
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:46:34 GMT
Reply-To: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Organization: University of Melbourne

In article <3840@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K. Wong) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul26.211404.15757@nic.umass.edu> s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins) writes:
|> >as seen on tv, the opening ceremony included opera performance by some famous
|> >singers. what if the event is to be held in china/hongkong/taiwan? do you
|> >think we will get to see chinese opera?
|> 
|> 
|> Opera/Classical singing is International.  Both performers are World renowned
|> superstars (Jose is actually a better Lyric tenor than Placido or Luciano). 
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It sounds that the three great tenors are your friends, you call them by their
first names ...

Lin Can
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com 
Subject: Re: Question for Shi Chunde
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:17:50 GMT

In article <97V-x3-@engin.umich.edu> chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.153658.16306@oakhill.sps.mot.com> kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com  writes:
>>
>>Doesn't America include the north and south states? You did not anwser my
>>question? 
>Surely, America includes all of the states. But the states are inseperatable.
>They form a unity called UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
>>
>>Allow me to borrow this from an e-mail I have received
>>
>>"I studied Abraham Lincoln in my history class. I read Abraham Lincoln's
>>works.  He is a personal hero of mine.  Jian Chen, you are no Abraham 
>>Lincoln." 
>You borrowed it or you made it? The statement is surely correct. I am J. Chen,
>I am not Abraham Lincoln.   

Of cause, you are not Abraham Lincoln - even a three year old kid knows it. 
Too bad you do not have enough ......to understand the intention of the
original author. No wonder you mix up the facts and your fantasies.

>
>>
>>ooooOOOOOOO, YES. I am glad you know some historical facts. Unfortunately, you
>>forget to mention a very important one. Based on Cairo Decleration and others, 
>>Taiwan is not a part of prc. 
>
>You made a logic mistake here. I have repeatly said:"Taiwan is a part of
>China." PRC is a government of China. It is a logic mistake to say Taiwan
>is a part of PRC or not a part of PRC.
>
>Taiwan is a part of China. This is a fact. This is recoganized by all of 
                                                                   ???
>countries in the world. This is well registered in the United Nations.
>
>J Chen
>Department of Chemistry
>University of Michigan

Hi, Doc. Is this the kind of logic from your part of world? I really don't 
think so. Most people I know from your part of world seem to be very logical. 
I really hate to give your a lecture in logic; but I guess I have no choice.

Given "prc is a government of China" and "Taiwan is a part of China". It does 
not imply prc is China and Taiwan is a part of prc.  

If you really can not understand this, then............................

Just for the record, I have said that Taiwan is a part of ROC. I have never 
said that Taiwan is a part of prc.  

Just a final advice - be be scholar and a gentlman. 
I rest my case.
From: yxz03@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Zhang Yan X)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:52:34 GMT

In article <Bs4L6o.HK2@acsu.buffalo.edu>, lan@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yan Lan) writes:
|> Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
|> Subject: Proud and Angry
|> Summary: 
|> Expires: 
|> References: <13810@mindlink.bc.ca> <Bs4Fs2.5su@math.uwaterloo.ca> <scrotch.712369624@milton>
|> Sender: 
|> Followup-To: 
|> Distribution: 
|> Organization: UB
|> Keywords: Olympics 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Hi! friends:
|>  
|> I have been watching the Olympic Games these days and very proud of Chinese 
|> Olypians. They did  great job.
|>  
|> But I am  so angry about  the local newspaper's comments on the Chinese gold
|> medalist Zhuang Yong and other Chinese swimmers. they spread rumors that 
|> Chinese girls must have taken some banned substances to enhance their perfor-
|> mances. They print a uglified picture of Zhuang Yong and herald  BULK MUSCLES
|> ...STYROID... and something like that.
|>  
|> The TV sports commentors' attitude t
oward Chinese swimmers,divers and gamnasts
|> also made me upset.This morning they made so much noise about a Amercian girl
|> and I thought she won the gold medal. But actually she ended up with a bronze
|> (fortunatlly!). A Japanese girl won the gold, and Chinese LIN LI won the 
|> silver.
|>  
|> What do you think?!

I think those TV sports commentors' are jingolistic pigs who themselves
have injected too much steroids and stuffed up their brains ....
From: ychen@ada.stat.uga.edu (Yinpu Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:16:40 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia Statistics Department

In article <13802@mindlink.bc.ca> Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang) writes:
>
>    In article <1992Jul28.031851.4915@ctr.columbia.edu> (28 Jul 1992)
>Yuan Jiang writes,
>
>> When I turned on the TV in the middle of the 400 women IM metal ceremony,
>> I eyes naturally focused on the Asian (Lin Li) first.  Oh, it's a man.
>
>Canadian CTV broadcasted a short interview with Li.  Boy, what a voice,
>coarse and low, more masculine than many males :-).  The translator spoke
>sweet feminine English.  I got confused at first, Li Lin's English is that
>good?  It took me quite a while to realized that the "male" voice was in
>Mandarin :-).
>
>    Zhuang Yong's physique looks exactly like Li's.  Fortunately, the Silver
>Medallist Jenny Thompson is a fair-looking girl, it convinced me that Zhuang's
>record is reachable for women.

I didn't see Li. But Zhuang looks a lot more female than the American
diver Mary Ellen Clark (bronze medalist).
From: ifwang@cnedcu51.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: National Pride? 
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:19:43 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

In article <1992Jul30.194845.21676@athena.mit.edu>, zhuh@athena.mit.edu (Hui Zhu) writes:
> In article <Bs7qqK.7qI@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
> |> All these are pure speculation and nonsense. You are extending your
> |> logic based on unfounded accusation. In fact, I think it is very
> |> insulting.
> 
> 
> National Pride?   Haha, let's look into this case:
> In one of the World Table Tennis Competition, China's woman athlete He
> Zhili was forced to lose by her Chinese coach  under the name "national
> interests" or "national pride".   She didn't obey but won the championship.
> However she was still punished afterwards.
> 
> National pride? Give me a break!  I DO NOT BELIEVE! wo3 bu4 xiang1 xing4!
 
  Just about this case you said.
  I suggest you read an article published in Xin1 Hua2 Wen3 Zhai1(89,5) named
"Han4 cheng2 bu2 shi4 luo4 shan1 ji1" ("Seoul is not Los Angeles"). Author:
Yin3 Wei4Xing1, Ying4 Ke4Dong1.  That was about last XXIV games.
  There is a big paragraph about this case (named "Ping Pang guan1 si1 he2
shi2 liao3?").

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: scip2013@nusunix3.nus.sg (WU ZHIBIAO)
Subject: Re: Mao vs Pig
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:41:35 GMT
From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: San Mao's books
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:48:04 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul30.053802.13869@athena.mit.edu> liu9yong@athena.mit.edu () writes:
->In article <92211.234527XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu> XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
->>her best books are  the stories of sahara desert
->>and Meng1 Li3 hua1 luo4 zhi1 duo sh3. Others are
->>so so, lack of real motion and feelings.
->>
->>In some senses, her whole live is much more moving
->>than her books. Her unique style and characteristics
->>are really seldom seen in the world.
->>
->>X Xu
->
->Most of the female-written novels are self-pitying novels, and three-hair is
->no exception.
->
->Look, this majority-of-css-are-male group only discuss Qiong-Yao and San-Mao!
->Can we Chinese men have more "manness"? No wonder "western" women don't want
->to date us! :-(
->
->Oh, forget to mention that only Lao lix and a couple of other married-with-
->wife-and-children talk about Tai-Shi-Gong and Johnny.

hhhhhmmmmm.  the only novels on which i can comment are written by Pearl
Buck, who, while not chinese, is a woman who lived in the asian culture
for a great peiord of time.  The women in her books appear to follow the
"reed" theory - bend all over the place but never really give in to the
forces around.  as a matter of fact, the main character in The Pavilion
of Women is portrayed as a woman of immense inner strength to which all
other people bow.

amazing novel.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
Subject: [Olympics] ZHUANG Xiayan Won 3rd Gold for China / Medals Standings
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:31:00 -0500

The latest China-related Olympics News can be found in CND-Global during 
the Barcelona Summer Olympics.

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From: CND SOURCE  07/27

Brief: Chinese woman player added the third gold medal (Zhuang Xiao-Yan,
       JUDO, WOMEN'S HEAVYWEIGHT), while two Chinese man players started 
       to pick up their first two medals (Silver, Liu Shoubin, Bronze,
       Luo Jianming) at WEIGHTLIFTING--BANTAMWEIGHT.


@@@ DJ    07/27
Summer Olympics: Overall Medals Standings  (As of July 20, 20:00 CDT)

           (THROUGH 21 EVENTS)
COUNTRY       GOLD SILVER BRONZE TOTAL
China            3      6      1    10
United States    3      2      5    10
Unified Team     6      1      0     7
Germany          1      1      3     5
France           0      2      3     5
Hungary          2      1      1     4
Australia        1      1      1     3
Japan            1      1      1     3
Sweden           0      2      1     3
South Korea      2      0      0     2
Bulgaria         1      1      0     2
Italy            0      1      1     2
Spain            1      0      0     1
Poland           0      1      0     1
Cuba             0      1      0     1
Independent Team (Yugoslavia)
                 0      0      1     1
Finland          0      0      1     1
Netherlands      0      0      1     1
Romania          0      0      1     1
Mongalia         0      0      1     1
Surinam          0      0      1     1


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Forwarding - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:14:04 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

Having seen too much nonsense about the training system for athletes, 
I can't help asking one simple question: how can China make a show by 
using other system, under the circumstances that it is a poor country 
with 1.2 million people?

Find a solution before you complain.

In article <1992Jul30.181435.21969@rigel.econ.uga.edu> jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.153948.>@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang) writes:
>>>
>>>Have a heart, those girls give all their sweat and blood for the
>>>gold/silver/bronze, and you sit there laughing at them?
>>
>>Yes, more than that.  They also give their bodies, marriages and 
>>family lives so that you can say "I'm proud of being a Chinese."
>
>Thanks for mentioning that. I for one feel really hard to jump
>and joy the "proud" feelings that expressed here by many netter.
>We have to reallize that most Chinese athlets are backed by a 
>Sports Machine that runs like a military machine, and most
>American athletes are on their own and have a life out of the
>sports they play.

I doubt there are a lot of geniuses in this world. Many US players 
were also told being trained at very young age. If you couldn't 
endure the pain of the arduous efforts, the champion would be
someone else. This is the rule. Chinese are born in a much tougher
environment than average Americans, which explains a lot.

>>We are not here to laugh at them.  We feel sorry for them.  We do
>>not like to see that they have to sacrify their bodies, marriage
>>and family lives to satisfy our selfish pride (more of A-Q pride).
>>
>>The meaning of Olympic is not for the medal, not for our selfish
>>pride and not for cruel body abuse, but rather for the upward
>
>Agree.

I feel sorry for both of you in some sense: you can't get the gold 
apples with your bare minds.

PS: Being proud blindly is as unreasonable as blaming aimlessly.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Forwarding - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:51:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.212222.3575@cco.caltech.edu> taijing@suncub.bbso.caltech.edu writes:
>In article <Jul.28.13.45.37.1992.4090@terra.rutgers.edu>, lixj@terra.rutgers.edu (Xiao-jian Li) writes:
>>I don't know if the Chinese girls use drugs or not. But u better shut
>>your mouth up before you having any evidence. I think those Americans are
>>no different from us Chinese: when somebody else does better than you,
>>throw some dirt on his/her face.
>>
>>Have a heart, those girls give all their sweat and blood for the
>>gold/silver/bronze, and you sit there laughing at them?
>
>
>Agree.

   This is fair.

   We all want to get some gold and/or silver medals there, even 
though we don't realize that. :-(

   If the girls have outlooks comparable with those hotely loved 
"four ancient chinese beauties," they might get nothing in the 
Games. 

   What a dilemma! :-(
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jpxu1@fnala.fnal.gov
Subject: dictionary.
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:32:24 GMT


Does anyone know where I can find a copy of dictionary in a public domain site?
Webster or whatever.

Email or post.

--jpx
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Female & Male Athletes in Olympics
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:28:30 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <Bs7Mrn.DoE@> shay@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (George Shay) writes:
>
>I think only diet can change it. 

Agree.

>                                   Have you guys ever noticed the Chinese
>Americans who were born in USA averagely are taller and stronger than the
>new immigrants, the more generations their family stay in US, the stronger
>and taller they are. The another example is Japanese Youth. When I was in

This is totally bull. They don't get any taller and stronger, just look
healther.

>                                                                      but
>the problem is where we can find so much protain for our sons and
>daughters.

Import more beefs rather than shitty Tempo's.
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:48:17 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <3997@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>>
>>Don't know if the Tempo will save you gas, probably will because it stays
>>in the shop most of the time, but the Taurus is a junk too except the
>>SHO version. But it has a Yamaha engine in it. 
>
>Ok, you tell me which American cars are better buy than Ford Tempo.

Saturn could be a better choice, if you have to buy american economic car.

>>Does the GM landlord still own his house? :-) 
>
>Maybe some falks in Delaware can help, but I have to search my note to
>find the address :)

No need to. Just wondering if GM had laid him off since it's getting
harder to sell junks.

:-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:19:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.160125.15152@newsgate.sps.mot.com> jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Tim Jennings) writes:
>
.....
>
>Stop right here.  There is absolutely no proof that HIV causes AIDS.  The HIV
>terror campaign is just another attempt by the US medical profession to be first.
>In truth, the virus for AIDS HAS NOT been identified.  For all we know HIV could 
>be as harmless as the flu virus. Anybody ever stop to think how much research money
>is flooding into labs because the HIV has been identified and researches can point
>to something and say 'look we've cornered it'. The French researchers who actually
>first found the HIV virus sent it to the US researcher for confirmation and he
>took it as his own discovery without verifying it.  To date the French research
>team has not acknowledged that HIV is a link to AIDS.
>----------------------
What are you doing? You just want to scare more people. Aids is bad
enough, Aids without HIV is worse. Not it is Aids is not from HIV.
Luckily you aint an expert of Aids.

>Timothy J. Jennings 			"I Yam What I Yam."

Tingli Pan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xye@circle.cs.jhu.edu (Brian Ye)
Subject: Health Insurance Policies
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:14:27 GMT

I would like to get some information on individual health insurance policies.
There are probably a few out there, like the IFCSS, and All-Chinese policies.
Do you have their phone numbers? Have you had any positive or negative
experiences dealing with them? In your opinion, which
one offers better service and coverage? Thank you very much!
 
PLEASE E-MAIL.
 
brian
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From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: NBC olympic coverage
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:45:09 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul29.165030.> dethomas@athena.mit.edu (Drea E Thomas) writes:
>Just another note on NBC's appalling coverage of the olympics,
....
> In the swimming events this pattern is just as bad. In one
>race (womens, 200 m breaststroke??) in which a chinese athelete
>got the silver medal, they never even showed her (in closeup)
>I never even saw her face. The american who won the bronze medal
>was profiled and interviewed extensively.

At the 400meter relay, the Chinese team was in the front until last
10-15 meters, but they never gave a close up. 
 
> If you want to complain to NBC, the number was given earlier
>(212-664-4444).
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