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From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Rumour about a jazz death
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:07:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

sandeep writes:
>The only jazz great based in Paris who died recently is saxophonist
>and composer Charles Tyler. His SAGA OF THE OUTLAWS suite recorded by
>Alan Douglad w/ the other Wildflowers sessions during the heydays of
>the loft scene is a pretty amazing piece of music. More recently he
>was playing bari sax. I believe there are a few releases on
>Silkheart/Storyville. SAGA OF THE OUTLAWS is, I think, on Nessa.

God, I'm sorry to hear that.  I like Charles Tyler's music very much
and it seemed like he never really got his due.  I knew if Lacy had
passed the NY Times would have run an obituary, but someone like Tyler
can go without, seemingly, any attention or memorial from those poor
excuses for "cultural arbiters."

Is Saga of the Outlaws actually available now?  I've often looked for
it but never seen a copy.  Tyler began, I think, on alto, playing 
some with the Aylers (he grew up with them) although I don't believe
there are any recordings of him with Albert.  There is a Tyler record
on ESP from that time period.  Saga of the Outlaws is from around the
early 70s, right?  There are indeed several Tyler records on
Silkheart; one, Charles Tyler w/Brus Trio - Autumn in Paris, includes
a version of "Saga of the Outlaws" (on the CD only) but I imagine it's
pretty different from the original.  He plays alto on this record.

Other Tyler recordings I know of are Sixty Minute Man (Adelphi, ~1980)
which is solo bari and alto - good stuff (yes, "Sixty Minute Man" is a
cover of the old Dominoes song); he appears on Steve Lacy's One Fell
Swoop (Silkheart 1984) - Lacy, Tyler on bari, J-J Avenel b, Oliver
Johnson ds.  This is a great album, and the Tyler song "Ode to Lady
Day," where Lacy lays out and Tyler plays alto, is excellent.
Tyler also plays on one of the Billy Bang albums on Black Saint.

Yet another piece of American musical heritage gone without a notice
...  I think I'll go read some Stanley Crouch now.

Ben Weiner
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From: mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Magic Mike)
Subject: Re: BLUES: What's in a name?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:47:45

> In article <1992Aug19.131817.14754@menudo.uh.edu> mece1xg@Elroy.UH.EDU
> (purna) writes:
> > In article <deadhead.714204912@beyond>,
> > deadhead@beyond.ugcs.caltech.edu (stephen thompson) writes:
> >
> >I'm sure that one of you out there can answer this question.
> >How exactly did the blues get its name?  Did the concept of
> >having the blues or feeling blue predate the music, or did
> >it come from it?  Why is that bluesy feeling related to the
> >color blue?  Just a-wonderin'...
>
>   i have always been under the impression that the blues(music) was
>   named from the blues(feeling) which is "psychologically" related
>   to the color blue.  that is, it is the opposite of "red" which
>   supposedly signifies "hot" and "excited".  don't know for sure, though.

 Naaaw, not really. I don't remember the exact story/mytology/whatever
behind it, but the old, original blues artists were said to be plagued
by small meanies called the blue devils. These bastards caused the
terrible pain and suffering the poor artists obviously go through! 

 Can't remember the story exactly, though, so if anybody knows more
than I do, please fill in.

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From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:22:37 GMT
Subject: Re: what's hot
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote

In rec.music.bluenote, austin@decisv.ucs.dec.com (Cathy Austin) writes:

> 2. Straight Ahead - Look Straight Ahead.  These are five beautiful women from 
> Detroit.  Regina Carter violin; Cynthia Dewberry lv, fl; Eileen Orr kb; Marion
                                                                          ^^^^^^
> Hayden-Banfield contrabass; Gayelynn McKinney per.  The recording reminds me
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> of artists like Bobby Watson & Charles Fambough.  Atlantic 82373-2

Does this hyphenated name mean she is married?  Please say no ... :-)

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From: exujsch@exu.ericsson.se (Johnny Schmittou EXU-T-EEG x7887 Dallas Texas USA)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Looking for name of guitarist
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:27:14 GMT
Reply-To: exujsch@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

Maurice writes:

I think that was Hiram Bullock, wish I was sure.  I like Hiram's style 
alot.  Before that I know for sure he was the original guitarist for
the Late Night with David Letterman show.  This was for a while the 
worlds most dangerous band.  spontaneous combustion has occurred.  Hiram
has been doing some acting lately.

--
It would not surprise me if it was Hiram (unfortunately, I never got
a chance to catch the show since it was on so damned late and I never
could remember to program my VCR to record it).  Hiram has been associated
w/ Sanborn for awhile now.  I saw Hiram on a Sanborn tour back in approx.
'86 here in Dallas.  Hiram dang near stole the show.  [Incidentally, this
was *by far* the best live performance I've ever heard/witnessed by
anybody, anywhere, anytime.  David, do you need a drummer for your next
tour?]  Hiram's also a big session man, as are Sanborn and most of the
people he plays with.

Check out Hiram playing w/ Sanborn on the live CD "Straight to the
Heart".  This is an excellent recording.  Hiram is also on the Sanborn
video of "Love and Happiness".  And indeed, Hiram played w/ the Letterman
band originally, as did Steve Jordan on drums.  They were definitely
killer.  And as for Sanborn, well, of course, he can do no wrong...
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From: milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Frogman in the movies?
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:36:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: scofield.corp.sun.com

In article <2306@unet.UUCP> jeffh@iceman.net.com (Jeff Heatwole) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.130207.21629@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> mlj@po.CWRU.Edu (Marcus L. Just) writes:
>>
>>Okay, 
>>	I was in a bar last night and someone played this cool
>>song on the jukebox.  It was called "Ain't got a Home," by
>>Clarence "Frogman" James.  I had never heard it before but my
>
>                    ^^^^^  "Henry", not "James"
>
>>drinkin' buddy had.  He said he saw a brat pack movie where
>>some teenager was lip synching with the whole song.  Then he
>>started getting p-oed because he couldn't think of the name of
>>the movie and who was in it.  HE HAS NEVER BEEN STUMPED BEFORE!
>
>If I remember correctly, the movie was "Diner", an early '80s flick starring Mickey
>Rourke, among others.  I believe that they were in a strip bar for a bachelor's
>party when the song started.  One of the guys took the stage, dancing and
>lip-synching. 
>

I answered Marcus privately thru e-mail on this one, but I'll air it publicly.
I saw "Diner" when it was new, and the above may be true - I don't remember
hearing that particular song.  However, "Ain't Got No Home" by Clarence
'Frogman' Henry *was* lip-synched in the movie "The Lost Boys", a teenage
vampire movie from a few years ago, filmed in Santa Cruz CA - the only
actors' names I can recall are Kiefer Sutherland and Corey Haim.  The
Frogman song is lip-synched by Haim as he's taking a bath.
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From: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Robert Johnson Video
Reply-To: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:16:34 GMT

	There is supposed to be a new video out soon called The Search For
Robert Johnson, does anyone know about this video like when it is supposed to
be out?  I wonder if most record stores will carry it because many people don't
know who RJ was. I haven't been able to find  a recent biography of RJ's life
which is also titled The Search For Robert Johnson at any book stores. 

							B.C. 


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"The blues is a low down achein' chill"  Robert Johnson
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: MILES 1970s recordings
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 04:31:12 GMT

Now if we could just have the dates and the sessions of all the things
in the can that haven't yet been issued....

Jeff

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From: hankdtank <hank@waffle.sns.com>
Subject: Billie Holidays recording of Blue Moon on CD
Organization: Systems'n'Software, Fremont, CA  94539-6669
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:30:09 PDT

This is a simple request, but probably an unanswerable one.
 
I would like to know all the CDs which contain Billie Holidays version of 
"Blue Moon," especially one where Harry "Sweets" Eddison performed on.
 
As they say on the nets: Thanks in advance.

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From: tim@vestek.com (Tim McGinnis)
Subject: Re: Odd custom at B.B. King concert
Organization: Vestek Systems
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 17:29:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.124642.1624@dxcern.cern.ch> djcam@dxcern.cern.ch (Douglas Cameron) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.193004.26551@anasazi.com> gaf@misty.anasazi.com (Guy Finney) writes:
>>
>>At the end of his set, B.B. King walked across the front of the stage
>>several times handing out things to audience members.  I was too far
>>back (even with binoculars) to see what they were, but I caught glimpses
>>of what looked like gold chains from time to time.
>>
>>Is this common practice, and if so what is the motivation behind it?
>>This was my first big-name blues concert, so I don't want to judge too
>>quickly.  I have to say, though, that it seemed a bit odd to me.
>
>I saw B.B. at at the Paleyo festival at Nyon in Switzerland last month, and he
>gave out about 20 of what appeared to be gold chains there too.  For me this
>spoilt a little, what was otherwise a pretty good concert, but then maybe he
>just likes to be generous.
>


Guitar picks, guitar picks, and more guitar picks.  i've seen him
hand out picks at his shows.


tim
tim@vestek.com
From: gaf@misty.anasazi.com (Guy Finney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Odd custom at B.B. King concert
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:30:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: anasazi.1992Aug19.193004.26551
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Originator: gaf@misty


Last night I went to the Blues Festival concert here in Phoenix, with
the Fabulous Thunderbirds, Dr. John, Buddy Guy, and B.B. King (for some
reason Santana was the headliner - he seemed out of place).

At the end of his set, B.B. King walked across the front of the stage
several times handing out things to audience members.  I was too far
back (even with binoculars) to see what they were, but I caught glimpses
of what looked like gold chains from time to time.  B.B. would put his
hand out and some roadie would fill it with goodies which he then
distributed.  It resembled nothing so much as feeding ducks at the park,
and put me off a bit.  Buddy Guy also distributed something (picks?) at
the end of his set, but just made one quick pass across the stage.

Is this common practice, and if so what is the motivation behind it?
This was my first big-name blues concert, so I don't want to judge too
quickly.  I have to say, though, that it seemed a bit odd to me.

-- 
Guy Finney                                   "Ah, this is obviously some
Anasazi, Phoenix AZ                          new usage of the word 'safe'
gaf@anasazi.com  -or-                        I was previously unaware of".
...!asuvax!anasaz!gaf                            --- Arthur Dent
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From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Subject: Re: T-bone Walker, Lightning Hopkins, Son House.
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:48:40 GMT

In article <jfsenior.713379727@unix1.tcd.ie> jfsenior@unix1.tcd.ie (John Senior) writes:
>Some questions - When did T-Bone Walker die?  When did Lightning
>Hopkins die? What are the latest/best recordings that these two
>did?
>
>Also, what album contains the 60's recordings that Son House did?
>(I just recently heard his "Death Letter" and I have to say that


For T-Bone, get the double CD of the Imperial sessions!  The is easy to find,
and I think it is the best.

As for Son House, there is a double CD release of him as well that contains
all the cuts (some previously unreleased) from those 60's sessions.
"Death Letter" is on that one.

Same story for Lightnin', good double CD released.... he was recorded more
than anybody... all were good... lots of the same type stuff.

Hope this helps,
Elliott
From: boop@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (joseph.a.lapenta)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Someone To Watch Over Me...
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:01:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsi.1992Aug14.180118.9249
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


I recently saw the movie "Someone To Watch Over Me" on HBO.  Does
anyone know where I could locate the opening and closing tracks to
this movie?  I'd couldn't locate any info in the credits.  

Please e-mail me as I don't read this newsgroup often.

Thanks!!

Joe LaPenta
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From: tjehl@sedona.intel.Com (Timothy Jehl)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.makers,rec.music.funky,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Help Me Choose Songs!
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:28:44 GMT
Reply-To: tjehl@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation.
Originator: tjehl@mirage


In article <1992Aug21.104035@IASTATE.EDU>, dickw@IASTATE.EDU (Richard Wallingford) writes:
|> 
|> Right Place, Wrong Time  -  Dr. Hook ????

  Actually, Dr. John, but you get half credit for getting the medical
degree correct.

Tim
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From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Identify these records, anyone?
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:02:50 GMT

I was going to make this part of the Keith Jarrett discography
posting, but forogt...  Anyway, when I was going through Carr's
discography to see what I had missed, I made a list of label and #
mentioned, to correlate with my own information.  The following items
were unaccounted for:

Atlantic 3002
Atlantic 5110
Atlantic 1483
Atlantic 1556
Atlantic 1596
Atlantic 1698

Does anyone have any of these?  (Yeah, like you all order your records
by number...)

Failing that, does anyone know of a good reference book I could find
in a library in which I could look them up?

Thanks,

Ed (not Tim), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@...)
From: mossingh@henri.ma.utexas.edu (Mike Mossinghoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Looking for name of guitarist
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:44:17 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Texas at Austin Mathematics

Can someone tell me the name of the guitarist that played in David Sandborn's
late night jazz/blues show a few years back?  I really enjoyed his playing
then, in jams with Stevie Ray, Robert Cray, Eric Clapton and others.  About a
month ago he sat in with Branford on the Tonight Show, and Jay mentioned he
has an album out.  I'd like to check it out.

Thanks.

 -- Mike
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From: corman@Ingres.COM (Anthony Corman)
Subject: Boston Sound
Reply-To: corman@Ingres.COM (Anthony Corman)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: rec.music.bluenote
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:15:03 GMT

To the requester of band names:

Beacon Street Union did "The Clown Died in Marvin Gardens." Orpheus
was probably the most succesful Boston Sound band. And the early
version of the J. Geils band was around, playing blues clubs and
little outdoor concerts. The primary DJ was Dick Summers on WBZ,
who also promoted the ideas that "sandwiches" should in fact
be called "shrewsburys," after their actual inventor. Which reminds
me, Woody Allen has a wonderful piece: alleged excerpts from the
lab journal of the Earl of Sandwich. Check it out (but be sure to return it).

Anyone else got Boston Sound trivia? Club names? Catacombs (Boylston
nr Mass Ave), Boston Tea Party (orig South End, then Lansdowne (sp) St.
What else?

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From: deadhead@beyond.ugcs.caltech.edu (stephen thompson)
Subject: BLUES: Son House quits the blues...
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:10:59 GMT



Hey.

I was reading the other day that at some point the great blues
guitarist Son House quit playing the blues to become a porter.
Does anyone know more of this story?  Why would such a genius
give up his area of expertise?  There must have been a reason
behind his career move.

--stephen


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From: vek@spacsun.rice.edu (Vincent E. Kargatis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: concert review journalism
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:18:45 GMT
Organization: Rice University

gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
> Downbeat seems to rely on having "correspondents" in various cities
> and countries.
> 
> Do you think that movie and theater critics buy their own tickets, or
> that their magazines pay for them?  How about book reviewers?  They
> all get free, advance copies.  As do record reviewers, of course.  Do
> you have a problem with those, too?
> 
> And when you say "pay for the reviewer's way", are you telling me that
> they fly reviewers from NY to LA or to Europe?  I'd be very surprised
> 
> Or do you only think that they
> shouldn't take airline tickets (which I don't think they do)?  Or maybe

Well, the impression I got from Kevin was that sometimes reviewers *were*
flown to the festival/whatever. And I could've sworn I've seen reviews of
foreign festivals by NYers, like Kevin nd other oft-published writers.
Hafta to go back in look, though..
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From: hkang@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Hananel Kang)
Subject: Freddie Hubbard/Lee Morgan
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:57:20 GMT

I've been looking all over for the Blue Note release "Night of the 
Cookers"  with Freddie and Lee sharing the front line.  I
hear it is a smokin' album; considering the personnel, how could it
be otherwise? 

Trouble is, I haven't been able to find it anywhere (I've only looked
for it on tape or CD).  Does anyone know if Cuscuna/Blue Note have
released it on the Blue Note Classics line?  I would consider looking
for the LP, if someone could tell me where to look (used record store?)
and if the LP is or isn't a high-priced collector's item.

I would appreciate any help.

Thanks.

Keeho Kang
hkang@hfglobe.intel.com
hkang@sedona.intel.com



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From: rpeck@pure.com (Ray Peck)
Subject: 'Round Midnight collection ?
Organization: Pure Software, Los Altos, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:14:17 GMT


I've read that there's a fairly new CD out which is a collection of
various musicians' versions of Monk's Round Midnight.  What are the
details?


Email please, as I don't normally read this group.

Thanks.

-- 
Ray Peck						rpeck@pure.com
Pure Software						415-903-5100
2111 Grant Road
Los Altos, CA, 94024
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From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Upcoming in SF Bay Area
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:53:32 GMT

sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz) writes:

>Sun 8/30 Elbo Room, SF
>(from Japan) 
>Takashi Kazamaki & Kalle Laar
>with Splatter Trio

For unknown reasons, the Freeway schedule left out the third
band, Siamese Twins, from Pittsburgh, as well as the second
show, which will be on Friday, 9/4 at the Heinz in Oakland.

-- Clay
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From: 880139h@dragon.acadiau.ca (Rob Hutten)
Subject: Re: history of blues music
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:02:12 GMT

mece1xg@Elroy.UH.EDU (purna) writes:

>howdy all!

Hiya.

>my question is....does anyone (obviously more knowledgeable than me)
>have a good compilation of blues artists and/or albums/CDs that would
>show the progression of the blues over time?

Man oh man, you have to get `Legends of the Blues.'  It's a perfect
primer on blues from 1925-1960.  It's got all the great old bluesmen
(and blueswomen): Bessie Smith, Blind Willie Johnson, Willie McTell,
Charlie Patton, Leadbelly, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Son House,
etc...  Anyway, it's full of must-hears if you want to get into the
good old stuff.

I forget which label did this compilation, but they released quite
a number of blues recordings in the last couple years and they all
(from what I've heard and read) are quite good.  Ask at your local
record store.

-Rob

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