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From: jbthiel@ogicse.ogi.edu (John B. Thiel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: xv under Trident/X11v2.0 beta - anyone?
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:57:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.43525
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


0.97p6
Trident 8900c
X11 v2.0 beta
GCC 2.2.2d


Does anyone have xv running under this configuration? I have tried
linking from the tsx-11 binary distribution (using recently posted
setjump.s) as well as full source recompilation, and always end
up with a binary that coredumps and takes X down with it.

Any success stories or pointers appreciated.

John

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From: mirons@ccs.northeastern.edu (Michael A. Irons)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Dos Don't complain fix it : -)
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:14:13 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, CCS Dept.


	Really, I hardly call a bug report complaining. If someone adds a 
feature to the kernel, and it won't work then it has a bug. If nobody says
anything about it, it won't get fixed. I spent a fair amount of MY time
making sure it wasn't my machine causing the problem, but the software.
As other people posted, it turns out that the PS/2 mouse driver is detected
in a non-standard way. I'd _personally_ call that bad programming, but if it
worked for that person they might not have realized that it was non-standard.
If I knew more about the mouse, etc I'd look into it more, but I don't. All I
can do is to confirm that there is a bug, not how to fix it.

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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: is RLL SOL?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:05:08 GMT

Seth Chaiklin (psykseth@aau.dk) wrote:

: I have looked in the various INSTALL docs, and the FAQ (from July) and nary
: a peep about whether Linux can be installed on an RLL drive.
: There was a peep that MFM, ESDI and SCSI were possible, so perhaps by
: implcations RLL is out of the running.
: 
: Anyway, I have this wonderful ST-238R which Linux 0.97.11 could not read
: (according to fdisk).  Am I doomed to live on floppies (or find a rich uncle)?
: 
: [As a newcomer to Linux, I can only give my naive praise at how easy
: it was to install on the floppies and how exhilirating it was to
: watch it come up.  I am sure it has been said thousands of times
: before, and probably more elegantly, but I could also guess that the
: people who work on it don't get so tired of hearing it. (-: ]

I've run 0.96c on an RLL controller, so linux does, indeed, support RLL drives.
-- 
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"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Question about Linux patches
Keywords: patch
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:43:07 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

ucosmo@mcl.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin) writes:

>I just discovered the patches directory on tsx-11.  There is a README file 
>that tells you what the patches are, but not how to apply them.  Can someone
>give me a hint about this?

To apply patches under bash, what I typically do is:
patch -p1 < patch 2> error.log

the -p1 mean to ignore everything up to and including the first slash in the
pathname of the patch. You can find out what is appropriate for you by 
looking through the patch headers to see what path they want. I usually delete
everything up to the linux/ stuff, and just patch from /usr/src.

>Also, if I am running Linux pl2 (from MCC) and I want to upgrade to pl6, do I
>also need patches 3, 4, and 5?
You need all the patches in between, as they are not redundant, and don't 
include previous ones.

>Thanks
>     - Boris
>(cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu)

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: psykseth@aau.dk (Seth Chaiklin)
Subject: is RLL SOL?
Summary: Can Linux be installed on ST-238R (RLL drive)
Keywords: ST-238R, RLL
Organization: Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:02:23 GMT

I have looked in the various INSTALL docs, and the FAQ (from July) and nary
a peep about whether Linux can be installed on an RLL drive.
There was a peep that MFM, ESDI and SCSI were possible, so perhaps by
implcations RLL is out of the running.

Anyway, I have this wonderful ST-238R which Linux 0.97.11 could not read
(according to fdisk).  Am I doomed to live on floppies (or find a rich uncle)?

[As a newcomer to Linux, I can only give my naive praise at how easy
it was to install on the floppies and how exhilirating it was to
watch it come up.  I am sure it has been said thousands of times
before, and probably more elegantly, but I could also guess that the
people who work on it don't get so tired of hearing it. (-: ]

Cheers,
  Seth
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ketil@linerle.ii.uib.no (Ketil M. Malde)
Subject: Re: Great marketing (Was Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?)
Reply-To: ketil@ii.uib.no
Organization: student of computer science at the University of Bergen, Norway
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:37:39

In article <_1+pnvg@lynx.unm.edu> graves@chama.eece.unm.edu (John Graves) writes:

   NOT "Windows New Technology"...
   It doesn't stand for anything...
   Dave was part of the development of VMS for DEC...

   WNT is VMS+1
   ie...        V+1 = W
		M+1 = N
		S+1 = T

   VMS is of course DEC's "main" os for their DEC systems.

So (I think I'm first out with this) does that mean that VMS is one
step ahead of WNT? :-)

If you haven't seen it (or read the book), go see (or read) 2001 and
think about 'HAL'




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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell)
Subject: 386BSD vs Linux 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Home for Three Headed Canines
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:32:06 +0000


In article <BvFEJ4.I67@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Bill.Viggers@comp.vuw.ac.nz writes:

>
>
>
>        Okay, somewhere out there, I take it there is a nice
>        comparasion between Linux and 386BSD.
>
>        In paticular I'm interested in the space requiriments,
>        and the tape drives that they support.
>        Also the space taken up by an Xinterface, and which
>        video cards are supported by the various X's.
>        And of course anything else that people may have to 
>        add about the virtues of their choice :-)
>
>Bill
>
>

Most comparisons of Linux and 386BSD get quite heated

anthony

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From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Where can I get 0.97 pl 5 or 6 bootimage ?
Keywords: bootimage
Date: 27 Sep 92 12:34:41 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Originator: rahardj@antares.cc.umanitoba.ca

I've look at tsx-11.mit.edu:pub/linux/images. Only 0.97 pl 1 is there.
Could somebody point me to the right direction ? (North America site is
prefferable). Will it recognize PS/2 type bus mouse ? or I have to compile
the kernel myself ?

If I want to compile the kernel, how much space does it take ?
(including the object, etc....) . I have too much stuff in my Linux
partition, now it's getting full...

-- budi
-- 
Budi Rahardjo <rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 12:11:06 EST
From: Genesys <JJLUCSY@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: A Plethy Of Questions

I've been following this group for quite a while, but I'm still left in the
dark about some things. So here goes...

1) What, and/or how, is the best way to install Linux?
2) What is needed for installation? Installation of X?
3) Does Linux have an emulator for Dos?
4) Can I assume this is 386 code dependant and won't run in an OS/2 box?
5) Should I wait for 1.0, or go for it now?
6) (Related to question 2) How much space?
7) Any sound drivers in the works or completed(SoundBlaster or LPT1)?
8) Anything else I'm missing?

I'll take either e-mail or replies. Thanks for info you might input.

                                          Joel Lucsy
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ayman@eecs.umich.edu (Ayman I. Kayssi)
Subject: Re: Linux activists unite all you have to lose is your DOS
Organization: ACAL, EECS, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:17:27 GMT

Lawrence C. Foard (lfoard@Turing.ORG) wrote:
: So why not bombard BYTE with letters asking them to cover free software?
: 
: Any one know what there address for comments is? (Why do I suspect they
: don't know what e-mail is?)

BYTE does cover free software, and is ON the Internet. I suggest you send
email to Ben Smith to tell him about Linux. His address is
ben@bytepb.byte.com

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EECS Department                               +------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: u31b3hs@cip-s02.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Subject: Re: Termcap question
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date:  2 Oct 92 10:47:57 GMT

satishc@microsoft.com (Satish Chittamuru) writes:

> [elvis 1.6 inserts blanks in insert mode]

It is a bug in elvis 1.6 and it is already reported to the author.

The fix should be easy.

Michael
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Keybord
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:54:49 GMT

Thomas Wetzler (wetzler@forwiss.uni-passau.de) wrote:

: I've only one simple question:
: How can I install a german keybord-device and were can I get it?

I think what you're asking is "how can I define linux so that my German
keyboard works right?".  Look in /usr/src/linux/Makefile and make the
appropriate change to the KEYBOARD define.

Oh, you *did* download the kernel source, didn't you? :)
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happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel)
Subject: Re: Linux on disc
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:37:16 GMT

In article <718242088.AA00000@remote.halcyon.com> Joe.Klemmer@f615.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Klemmer) writes:
>PE=>As i only have USENET acess and not FTP, i wonder where i can get
>PE=>linux on disc, and utilties that are for linux. As i is new to
>PE=>the unix system(s), what is needed to run LINUX on a MSdos system.
>
>        I know that there is a BBS in Main that has the SLS release
>that
>you can D/L.  It's The Lobster Bouey @ 207-941-0805.

And in a few days I'll have it online at the Politically Incorrect BBS,
302-837-8088 at V.32bis.  Also x11, GCC 2.2.2d7, plus other goodies.

Could whoever updates the Linux BBS list add my name?  I'll be happy
to provide all relevant information.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: u31b3hs@cip-s02.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Subject: Re: Moria 5.5
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:40:30 GMT

geek+@CMU.EDU (Brian E. Gallew) writes:

>Has anybody gotten moria 5.5 to compile and run?  If I define SYSV,
>and change struct termios to struct termio, it compiles, but it always
>seg faults (I also have to comment out the signal handlers for SIGBUS
>and SIGSEG).  ANy pointers?  Am I being really stupid?

Hmm, I compiled it with very minor changes under Linux 0.96c.pl1
with GCC 2.2.2 and it works fine.  If you want to, I can upload
it somewhere next time.

Michael
From: mirons@ccs.northeastern.edu (Michael A. Irons)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Lethal X-bug, just me??
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:12:27 GMT
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University
Originator: mirons@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu


	I seem to have a nasty problem w/ X11v2.0 & Linux, it kills the machine
dead cold at times. It I try to pull up more than 6 Xterms, or do just a little
to much it kills the machine stone cold. I have to power cycle it to get it to
work again. I have 20Meg RAM, and 10Meg of swap so that is'nt the problem. When
dying it never swaps, though I can get the machine to swap if I trigger the GCC
bug dealing with large arrays (a known & documented bug w/ GCC), so that's not
it either. Anyone else run into this ??

					Mike Irons
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hodgen@infko.uni-koblenz.de
Subject: TCPIP and config.c
Organization: Uni Koblenz, Germany.
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 08:44:39 GMT

Hello all,

Last night I got the 0.98 kernel, compiled it with the tcp stuff on, reinstalled
the tcpip packed (to get the /usr/etc/inet stuff and config.c source). I had
to change all references to IP_TCP, IP_UDP and IP_ICMP in the net/tcp
directory to read IPPROTO_TCP, IPPROTO_UDP, IPPROTO_ICMP. Upon rebooting
the kernel found the card and said it had 32 pages of memory but the config
failed with the message -

socket: Protocol not supported

After about an hour and a half of grubbing around in the kernel source, include
files and addind printk's I found the problem. In config.c change the line
where it gets the handle to the socket

s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, PF_INET);

to read

s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_TCP);

Then it all worked! Is the above a know problem, will it be changed for the next
release? All this was done on a virgin system. The kernel sources first on the
dirve, then gcc jump 4.1, the include -> linux links and then compile so I
thought I should post and let you know that the IP stuff doesn't work "out of
the box".

Please don't interpret this as an attack, flame or winge, I'm trying to be
helpfull.

Last but not least, Many thanks to all involved in developing Linux (especially
Linus of course - our Linux machine here is called linus, so late at night I
couldn't think of anything better :-).

Bye.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Subject: Pascal compiler needed
Reply-To: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:27:49 GMT


Hi Activists,

My change of major to COSC has produced an awful consequence....
I am required to take 2 (that's two!) semesters of Pascal.

I would REALLY like to do the coursework on my linux machine; does 
anyone know of some C coded Pascal compiler or interpreter that 
would port to our beloved OS easily? I am otherwise forced to do this
work on a VMS VAX with EVE editor ( yechh!).

I talked to Archie about this but found only chicken/egg soln.
ie. pascal interpreter written in pascal... I'll try some more.

Thanks to all who replied about my Adaptec 1542A query... it cost 
me $70 and works beautifully (there's one more if anyone's inter-
ested:-)
______________________________________________________________________
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From: c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston)
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:38:56 GMT
Distribution: na
	<BvCpFJ.K7s@nic.umass.edu> <BvEMnM.MKw@mtholyoke.edu>
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Utah

I TRIED TO STAY QUIET!!! 

PLEASE take this somewhere else!!!!
This has NOTHING to do with linux and frankly many of us are sick of it.

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rafal@utstat.uucp (Rafal Kustra (summer student))
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:36:57 GMT

> [stuff deleted]
>missing.  Until I can get Word Perfect running under Linux and find a 
>spreadsheet capabable of competing with Excel I am going to have to keep
>my business activities running under MS-DOS.
I'm sure everybody will cry for you, and some may even
commit suicide.
If you really want it - do it!
Do your own UnixWP (or buy it, there is a commercial WP
for unix, they may let you have a source code for 40 G's)
or do the DOS-emulator. But don't complain.
You may share your work afterwards,  if you want.

			Rafal

BTW there is someone working on simple DOS emulator, but
I don't know if you ever be able to run WP with it.

>If any given program runs correctly, it is obsolete.
>=========================================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: 600Meg CD's and file systems
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:17:46 GMT

I need to setup file systems on 600Meg CD's, this would require 10
normal Minix partitions :-) Unfortunitly thats kind of yucky expecially
if I need to mount all of them when a CD is changed. Will the Extended
FS support 600meg disks? 

I saw some stuff about it using a free list instead of bitmaps? Is this
still the case? Has anything been done to prevent fragmentation? Xenix
has a serious fragmentation problem because of the free list stuff.


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From: kim@sol.ral.rpi.edu (Jongwook Kim)
Subject: Re: XFree386 with Trident
Keywords: XFree386, Trident
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:11:52 GMT

Hi everybody!
This is my first posting on the net.
I have just installed Linux 0.96c from SLS and X programs come with it.
But I couldn't start the X, I heard that I need change Xconfig file, but
I don't know how.
I have i386 box with 8MB RAM, 113MB HD (Partially for DOS and the other for Linux) and Trident 8900C TVGA Card w/ 1MB memory.
Somebody please send me some advise.
BTW, is Trident supported by Linux X anyway?

Thanks in advance,

Jongwook Kim
From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Just another question (shared libs)
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:15:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Sep30.151505.20999
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Sep30.135828.3679@athena.mit.edu> nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de writes:
>Just another question about shared libs: who can I create them?
>I have successfully compile SUIT (The simple user interface tool) and now 
>all executables are > 300K. In order to shrink file size I want to
>create shared libs.
>
>Andreas Wacknitz
>InterNet: nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de

I have put SUIT in the next shared library script. Before you start it,
please upgrade to gcc 2.2.2d7 and wait for the official x11 v2.0, which
is said to be released this week.

H.J.
From: pdp@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Paul Douglas Page)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: olvwm & file management
Date: 3 Oct 92 08:29:50 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne

Has anone ported across to linux a graphical file manager of some sort that
will run with olvwm?

I'm not really shure whats around.


THanks in advance.
From: graves@chama.eece.unm.edu (John Graves)
Subject: Re: Great marketing (Was Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 21:34:09 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM
Keywords: UNIX

With all this talk about Dave Cutler, DEC, and "Windows NT"...

I read an artical where Dave Cutler told how WNT got its name...
NOT "Windows New Technology"...

It doesn't stand for anything...

Dave was part of the development of VMS for DEC...

WNT is VMS+1
ie...        V+1 = W
             M+1 = N
             S+1 = T

VMS is of course DEC's "main" os for their DEC systems.

Dave said he was quite amused by all the acronyms that were assumed...

-john

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 1992 21:11:42 -0400 
From: Stefan Monnier <osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: NJ/SML
	<KETIL.92Sep29143043@spurv.ii.uib.no>
	<1992Sep29.203910.2837@odin.diku.dk> <3748@eastman.UUCP>
	<LILJEBER.92Sep30221336@klaava.Helsinki.FI>

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux: 30-Sep-92 Re: NJ/SML Mika
Liljeberg@klaava.He (2786)

> o	Splitting c.o.l to several subgroups would save some
> 	people the bother of learning to use a modern threading
> 	newsreader.

OK, so what are those threading newsreaders ?
(I believe xrn is one of them, if I understand it well)

Could you give some advice on how to find them ?
(I don't have access to xrn)

	Stefan

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