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From: mikem@comspec.com (Ragnarok)
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal like movie
Reply-To: mikem@comspec.com (Ragnarok)
Organization: Comspec Communications - Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 01:34:50 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Keywords: Cobra
Disclaimer: Comspec Communications knows nothing of what I write.

jhumkey@cup.portal.com (John K Humkey) writes:

|    I saw a video on MTV recently "Girlfriend" by Matthew Sweat.
|    Th music was ok, but the Heavy Metal like scenes in the video
|    were very nice.  Were they just part of the video, or part of some
|    real movie?

They were scenes from the Japanese animated film Space Adventure Cobra,
theatrically released in Japan around June of 1982.  Matthew Sweet
received permission to use segments from the film in his music video.

Further inquiries would probably be best directed to rec.arts.anime.
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From: wkm1@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (messer,wendy k)
Subject: Cast a Giant Shadow
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 13:03:58 GMT

Cast a Giant Shadow was made in about 1967.
I knew some people they were using as extras, they filmed it in
Israel.

Kirk Douglas played Mickey Marcus, based on a true story.


He was killed because he didn't understand something that was
asked of him in Hebrew, he didn't know any.  The guard/sentry (?)
shot first and asked questions later.

Hope this clears it up.


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From: clueless@bradley.edu (Mark Kristie)
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:32:29 GMT
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Jorge Diaz (ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec15.203113.4791@Virginia.EDU> rrb2x@Virginia.EDU (Richard Ramiaz Banks) writes:

: >	Concerning your Die Hard II complaints: you can eject
: >from any aircraft--except a helicopter--while it is still on
: >the ground; they did try to reroute the airplanes during the
: >movie.  The ones with the most fuel were sent elsewhere,
: >whereas those with little fuel flew in a circular pattern.

: Sorry, dude, if you have enough fuel to circle for 2 hours, you can fly
: to another airbase.

You don't if you're told by the airport to circle and wait cuz they're 
going to have their systems back up shortly.... By the time you realize
it's too late, you don't have enough fuel left....
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 16 December 1992
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:55:15 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

Following is a list of the top-ten grossing movies in the U.S. as of 16
December 1992 (source: Seattle P-I, 16 December 1992). The first dollar
column lists the amount grossed in millions of dollars in the previous
weekend. The second dollar column lists the total gross receipts in the
U.S. through the end of the previous weekend. The fourth column tracks
the number of weeks a film has been on the Top Ten list.

1     A FEW GOOD MEN                    $ 15.5 M     debut

2     HOME ALONE 2                         8.3     101.4 M 4th week

3     THE BODYGUARD                        7.4      51.3   3rd week

4     ALADDIN                              7.4      50.3   3rd week

5     THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN          5.4      18.6   2nd week

6     THE MUPPET CHRISTMAN CAROL           5.0       debut

7     MALCOM X                             1.8      35.7   4th week

8     BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA                1.6      78.1   5th week

9     PASSENGER 57                         1.0      37.6   6th week

10    A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT              0.7      31.5   9th week

COMMENTS:

In one month HOME ALONE 2 has gone blockbuster (more than
$100 million).

I for one am impressed by the legs PASSENGER 57 is showing.

I would imagine no one is too pleased with the performance
of THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN, which opened to $10 million
and fell 50% in one week. Not a sign of a big money maker.

A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT has done remarkably well considering
its arthouse quality and limited distribution.


-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Sick and tired of cries of sexism (was Re: 9 1/2 Weeks)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:24:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.115724.20219@odin.diku.dk> ballerup@diku.dk (Per Goetterup) writes:
>panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
>
>>The point being made is that the advertisers expect their viewers to be 
>>men, and they speak to men as consumers, and ignore women as audience.
>
>You might be forgetting some types of products clearly targetted at women as
>absolute primary consumer, like 'super/ultra' efficient washing powder and
>dishwashing fluids that spares the hands... (for the housewife) or shampoo/
>perfume commercials featuring unshaved/sweaty men - or the exact opposite -
>the yuppie (sharp dressed) man in suit and tie in the fancy sports car...
>
>There's just as many commercials targetted at women as there are at men.
>
[....]

Per, Per.  You just don't get it, do you?  Male society has conditioned these
poor women to want those things and to respond positively to those images!

>We _are_ different and we just have to live with the fact that the advertising
>companies knows that - and uses it.

>But wouldn't life be boring if we were all alike...?

We'd assign all the duplicates numbers and the Odds would hate the Evens.

GMS
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From: tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.godzilla,rec.arts.movies,alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Help: 'BASIC INSTINCT' confusion
Date: 27 Dec 92 06:18:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec27.061813.14898
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


	i remember that there was some discussion on the the ending
	of the movie: 'basic instinct' (michael douglas & sharon stone)

	i just rent this movie and thought sharon stone was so smooth
	in that movie! she is soooo fine.

	my questions: who was the girl that played 'dr. beth gardner'?
		      what's her real name?

		      so it was 'proved' or 'verified' that 'beth' is
		      the one who killed 'gus'(the police) in the dorm?

		   
	1 remark on the sex scene where involved douglas & stone:
	
	i thought that wasn't 'intense' or 'sexual' enough to excite
	the audience--the scene where douglas called it 'the fuck
	of the century.'

	/tt300zx@u.washington.edu 
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From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Actor/Actress
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:03:58 GMT


In article <Bzn98t.BAn@unix.amherst.edu>  writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.080055.7355@syma.sussex.ac.uk> nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type) writes:
>
>>[Costner] plays the same character in every film, same monotone voice all the
>>time... I mean Robin Hood was born in England.. At least he should of
>>made an effort....!!!
>
>Accents, accents, accents.  Don't you people ever pay any attention to
>anything else?
>
>Someone else please raise your hand if you couldn't care less whether
>someone has adopted the correct fake accent for a particular role.

Generally, I think accents are irrelevent in playing a role.  It is your 
interpretation of the character that is important not the accent.  If you 
are having trouble with an accent then spending too much of your energy on 
trying to get it right can take away from the rest of your performance.

However, accents are good if you can get them right.  But if you can't, don't
do them as they can it sounds really stupid and will distract your
audience, especially those from the region that you are trying to imitate.
I am from Texas, and it really drives me up the wall when I see actors
trying to get it right.  This happens quite often and even the best actors
are poor imitators.  Mostly they try to do a deep Southern "Gone with
the Wind" accent, which is not right for Texas.  It leaves off the "Twang"

JDB
From: tmohler+@cs.cmu.edu (Tim Mohler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Cook...Lover/women's response
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:34:37 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

A caveat: I've seen The Cook three times in the theater, and
twice on video. Each time, I've liked it more in some ways and
less in others. It is a hard movie to get into, because of
the extreme ugliness. I will say some things in this post
that I would not have thought of, nor agreed with, after
seeing it for the first time.

In article <1992Dec30.201743.15024@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> molly@coos.dartmouth.edu (Revolver) writes:

>This, of all Peter Greenaway's movies, is one of my very favorites.  The
>language used recently to describe "Dracula" [opulent, rococo, lush,
>extravagant] is, i think, more aptly used to describe this movie.

I think TCTTHSAHL was too sharply filmed to be compared to Dracula.
Beautiful, yes, but lush?

>Its undercurrent of commentary on the extraordinarily stratified and
>_accepted_ brutality performed daily in the name of gentility and class
>preservation was skilful and subtle, and, IMHO, often overlooked in the
>brouhaha about the violent and disturbing elements of the movie.

THIS is what I thought was worthwhile in the movie, besides its
beautiful cinematography. I can't articulate a coherent view of
"what it said" but I can feel the underlying logic in the movie.

I have thought of the movie in a couple ways:

1) A political satire, with Georgina as England's colonies, and
the Thief as England.

2) A political satire, with Georgina as Englad, and Thief as the
ruling class.

3) An exploration of PG's favorite themes of death, corruption,
sex and food.

4) A comment on the violence with which the status quo is maintained
in our society.

5) Bunches of other things.

A plus for the movie is its treatment of violence. As everyone here
has commented, the film was often revolting. I've got a strong
stomach, and even I squirmed a bit watching the henchmen shove
paper down Michael's throat with a wooden something.

This is GOOD I think. T2 was filled with violence, NONE of it
realistic or disturbing. T2, not TCTTHWAHL, promotes poor
attitudes towards casual violence.
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From: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu (michael bruce mcdonald)
Subject: Re: Siskel & Eberts Top 10 of 1992
Reply-To: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 14:28:33 GMT

In article <9301010947.AA06788@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca>, jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung) writes:
>Inevitably, this is going to have to be re-posted several times, so
>here's the first one.  :)
>
>
>SISKEL & EBERT'S LIST OF THE 10 BEST FILMS OF 1992
>==================================================
>
>	Gene Siskel			Roger Ebert
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>10.	UNDER SIEGE			BAD LIEUTENANT
> 9.	MISSISSIPPI MASALA		UNFORGIVEN
> 8.	WAYNE'S WORLD			THE PLAYER
> 7.	DAMAGE				THE HAIRDRESSER'S HUSBAND
> 6.	THE HAIRDRESSER'S HUSBAND	DAMAGE
> 5.	MALCOLM X			THE CRYING GAME
> 4.	THE CRYING GAME			FLIRTING
> 3.	HOWARD'S END			HOWARD'S END
> 2.	THE PLAYER			ONE FALSE MOVE
> 1.	ONE FALSE MOVE			MALCOLM X	
>
>

The Player better than Howards End (*please* note the lack of an apostrophe
here)?  No damn way!  I have all the good will in the world toward Wayne and
Garth, but one of the year's ten best?...........NOT!

I really think that A River Runs Through It should *easily* make a list of the
year's ten best.  Howards End gets my vote for the very best of those I've
seen, which ain't the lot.

michael mcdonald
From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: (Unsolicited) advice against Blockbuster
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:29:32 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

> 
> No, don't go there!
> 
> Six reasons not to patronize Blockbuster:
> 
> 
> 6.  Almost always staffed by unknowledgeable sixteen-year-olds.
> 
> -- 
> Dennis P. Hilgenberg
> syd@ecn.purdue.edu
=====
Of All the video stores I've been in, the poorest service is Blockbuster. 
They'll have four people behind counters sorting tapes or whatever they do 
back there, one line open and 8 people in line... all the way they carry on 
this merry chatter...
From: yousten@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Ken Yousten)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: re. Citizen Kane Question
Date: 24 Dec 92 17:09:35 GMT
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In article <Bzr8FL.3to@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell) writes:
>ability to strike out at the world. He isn't able to control anyone anymore
>and he rembers back to when he was a child and he manipulated his parents.

My memories are not perfect, but as I remember it, Agnes Moorhead pretty 
much ruled everything and I didn't get the feeling that he manipulated
her at all.

>This was also the time he first gained his wealth and did anything he
>wanted.

I don't think he wanted all that wealth all that much (he was a kid), 
since it meant leaving his home and family and going to the city to be 
raised by bankers.

Are you thinking of when he first went into business?  (What was that
great quote- something like "Yes I lost a million dollars this year.
And I expect to lose a million more next year.  At this rate, I'll have
to sell this paper ... in 60 years.")  I am thinking of when he was a
little kid, playing in the snow, before he got money and it took over
his life.

>Maybe he was wishing that he could start over again and not turn out
>to be the "control" addict that he had become?

Was he maybe yearning for a time when money was not important and he 
had no responsibily?  That seems more reasonable to me.
--
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Blacksburg, VA			I saw it just a friend ago"
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Top 5? 10? 15? We'll see...
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:57:55 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <1992Dec21.173352.133@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>TK>>This is just a starter.  And now, films to avoid:
>TK>>ANYTHING DIRECTED BY LAWRENCE KASDAN (All his films are ripoffs of movies by
>TK>>>       John Sayles, a much more gifted director.  Case in point:  THE BIG
>TK>>       CHILL rips off THE RETURN OF THE SECAUCUS SEVEN).
>PK>I have to make an exception with Grand Canyon.
>
>Grand Canyon is a ripoff, too!  Want a real film about the trauma of urban
>life?  Rent CITY OF HOPE (1991), directed by--guess who--John Sayles.

Note that "City of Hope" and "Grand Canyon" came out within a few months
of each other.  There is little possibility that "Grand Canyon" was seriously
influenced by "City of Hope".  "Grand Canyon" finished shooting before
"City of Hope" finished post-production.  One can speculate that the evil
Kasdan, snooping around Sayles' open kitchen window one night, heard Sayles
talking about how he was planning to make a film about the problems of
living in a major American city, if one wishes to, but the evidence is
scanty, at best.

While we're at it, would anyone care to come up with an example of a
Kasdan film that was seriously influenced by a Sayles film other than
"The Big Chill"?  Which Sayles film was the influence on "Body Heat"?
Which Sayles film influenced "Silverado"?  One example is not very
compelling.  If you don't like Kasdan's movies, I suggest you look
for other reasons.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
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From: lipp@sierra.com (Damon Lipparelli)
Subject: Re: most underated actress/actorclose
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:56:32 GMT

Robyn Spady (spady@bcstec.ca.boeing.com) wrote:
: >An actress who never get's much press is Genevieve Bujold. She's been in a 
: >number of my favorite movies... Choose Me, Anne of a Thousand Days, King of 
: >Hearts, as well as a few westerns, one with James Caan and another with 
: >Clint Eastood.  

: Ooooo . . . I like Genevieve Bujold too!  Don't forget her performance in
: _Strapless_ . . . Bridget Fonda did a nice job too!

Are you sure that was Bujold?  I thought it was Blair Brown who starred
with Bridget Fonda in _Strapless_.

-lipp

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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 30 December 1992
Date: 31 Dec 92 06:37:49 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

Following is a list of the top-ten grossing movies in the U.S. as of 30
December 1992 (source: Seattle P-I, 30 December 1992). The first dollar
column lists the amount grossed in millions of dollars in the previous
weekend. The second dollar column lists the total gross receipts in the
U.S. through the end of the previous weekend. The fourth column tracks
the number of weeks a film has been on the Top Ten list.

1     A FEW GOOD MEN                    $ 13.6 M    51.4 M 3rd week

2     ALADDIN                             13.4      80.4   7th week

3     HOME ALONE 2                         9.1     124.9   6th week

4     THE BODYGUARD                        8.8      72.2   5th week

5     FOREVER YOUNG                        7.7      18.3   2nd week

6     HOFFA                                6.4       debut

7     TRESPASS                             5.0       debut

8     THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN          4.3      30.3   4th week

9     LEAP OF FAITH                        4.1       9.2   2nd week

10    TOYS                                 4.0      11.6   2nd week

COMMENTS:

I had to adjust a couple of numbers in Weeks column after
comparing my list with the New York Times.

Dail Variety reports that overall the grosses for the top
ten were about 8 to 10 percent off last year's Christmas
weekend.

Certain disappointments: HOFFA, TRESPASS, TOYS,
DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN, and LEAP OF FAITH.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
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From: George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris)
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Actor/Actress
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:54:25 GMT

In article <1579@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk> dvp@oasis.icl.co.uk (Dave Parry) writes:
>Julia Roberts!!!!
>
>Legs, hair and makeup. Take those away and there's nothing left.

	Except, of course, for a torso, two arms, and a bald head.

>Dave
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From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Re: The Cook...Lover/women's response
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:50:47 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1992Dec27.060611.25351@netcom.com> estrayer@netcom.com (Eric Strayer) writes:
>*** Specifically I want to know if women find the 
>film particularly offensive to women, and if they 
>consider this to be a normal or expected reaction. 
>From the men, I don't have any specific questions 
>but comments pertaining to the questions I pose to 
>the women will still be appreciated.***

<<SPOILERS>>

Well, I may not be a woman, but...

I have been a fan of Peter Greenaway (the director) for a while and
have noticed that a lot of his films do not have a great attitude
towards women.

For example, _Drowning By Numbers_ has three women killing their
husbands and using their sex appeal to manipulate a man into covering
it up. When he finally decides to reveal all, they dispose of him too.

In _Belly of an Architect_, again we have a woman as a "bad
character". The architect seems to partly blame her for his problems
and turns on her after she starts sleeping with another man.

-- 
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From: komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Mark 'Henry' Komarinski)
Subject: Re: "Moonraker" -- fact or fiction?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:23:16 GMT

spl@ivem.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) writes:

>In article <1992Dec28.103655.11722@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
>>Sorry... it's all moot, since Ian Fleming did not write "Moonraker".
>>They had already run out of his stories by that time... ...

>Actually, Fleming did (or at least his clone).  It was one of the
>original thirteen or so James Bond books.  Kingsley Amis (??) took
>over the series sometime in the 1970s with, I think, _License
>Renewed_.  I'm a little hazy on the exact dates and titles of the
>ersatz Bond books since I was well beyond puberty at the time. :->

That's John Gardner who re-started writing Bond novels in the early 80's.
Very good books also. :)

-Mark

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From: sheppard@warthog.nas.nasa.gov (Douglas R. Sheppard)
Subject: Resevoir Dogs
Keywords: pancakes
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 18:47:12 GMT


I haven't seen many posts on Resevoir Dogs, which I just saw and really
enjoyed!  It reminded me of the early Coen film Blood_Simple, and had
a number of twists and surprises that made it a very captivating film.
It made excellent use of flashbacks, the story was tight, and great
dialogue.

One fellow said he couldn't buy the cops not busting in, and perhaps he
is right.  On television, this is certainly true.  In most movies, sure.
But not in this film, and that's one of the things (unpredictability) that
I liked about it.

Oh, by the by, I really disliked TOYS.  All fluff, no stuff.  And we didn't
even get to see Robin Wright naked.

-d
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