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From: rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama)
Subject: Oak Park telenet number needed
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:16:57 GMT

I recently moved from Chicago to Oak Park.  I had been using a
312 area code number for Chicago that is no longer in my local
calling zone.  Does anyone know of a 708 area code number for
telenet that is reasonably close (within 1-15 miles) to Oak Park?

Thanks very much.
						       .
						trish  o tuama
						rissa@world.std.com
Newsgroups: chi.general,soc.women
From: horse@cbnewse.cb.att.com (nancy.nehls.nelson)
Subject: Breaking the Cycle of Overeating Workshop
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:13:19 GMT
Followup-To: poster


A Workshop dealing with causes of complusive eating, self-care, self-loving,
body image and reasons why diets don't work is being held in Naperville
on Wednesday nights.  We'd really like 3 or 4 more participants.  If you're
interested please call me at 708 979 3792 during the day or 708 355 1406
in the evenings.  Some of issues covered are:  Thinking about eating, food,
diets all the time, losing weight only to gain it back, feeling fat even
when you aren't, swallowing anger by eating.

We meet at a local church for two hours every week for 8 weeks.

We want to get the group set by this Wednesday night (our second meeting),
so contact me today or tomorrow if interested.

Nancy Nelson
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: gargoyle terminal server
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 19:31:07 CDT
Distribution: world               
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess) writes:
> If you are wondering why email through the U of C terminal
> server/clout is not working, seems UofC has changed some of
> the motd and other messages sent when logging in.  You will
> need to tune your chat scripts.

Also, if you used to call in at higher than 9600 baud, you'll need to
drop down to 9600.  The modems will still connect just fine, but tip is
apparently broken.

-- 
Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS        veck@pshrink.chi.il.us
I *do* speak for the company!                          data: +1 708 540 6772
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: jimpuls@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jim Puls)
Subject: /ugc October Board Meeting
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:35:26 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL

/usr/group/chicago

October Board Meeting
October 8, 1992
6:00 p.m.

Software Business Applications
2137 S. Lombard Avenue
Cicero, IL 60650
(on the Cicero - Berwyn line, at Cermak)

Everyone - especially members - is invited to attend the board meeting.
We will be talking about a variety of things, including the schedule for
1993.

If you have any questions, call me at (708) 863-4020,
or email to jimpuls@ddsw1.mcs.com

- Jim
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: ENDANGERED ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH - HELP!
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:40:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.225417.2708@cbnewse.cb.att.com> horse@cbnewse.cb.att.com (nancy.nehls.nelson) writes:
>Butterfield Road.  Please, don't let Commonwealth Edison destroy the trees
>along the path and Butterfield Road or expose citizens to harmful electro-
>magnetic radiation.         

I'm against tearing down the trees, but last I heard there was no
real evidence proving harmful effects of EM radiation.  Most of the studies
indicating a link to childhood cancer near power lines ignored
PCB exposure from leaking transformers (urban above-ground lines) or
the effect of pesticides used in the right-of-way.

>STOP COMMONWEALTH EDISON FROM BUTCHERING THE ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH AND 
>BUTTERFIELD ROAD!!  YOUR COMMENTS DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!

Go even one further, and return the Prairie Path to it's original
use: commuter railroads.....  :-)
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: places/partners to play table tennis? (ping pong)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: chi
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:30:32 GMT

Is there a Chicago Table Tennis Association or something such?  Do you
play table tennis or know someone who does?

I'd like to find a place / people to play at / with.  I work at
Northwestern in Evanston and I live in Chicago near Sheridan and Foster.

I'm not ranked, but I'm not rank either. :)

				-- Marek

P.s.  If you are on campus at NU and know about another place than the
lone table in Norris, I'd love to know.


Xref: sparky chi.general:1250 chi.forsale:1558
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 5 Oct 1992 10:11:19 CDT
From: <U30644@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.forsale,uic.general,uic.bicycle
Subject:    Trek Bike for sale (reduced price)

Ok people, since I didn't get that many responses to my last post, I am
cutting the price of my TREK.

Trek 820, 18" men's frame, black
comes with lock, kickstand (you would have to buy these separately)
and rear mount (trunk) bike carrier

This is a $440 value

$340 or best offer.

I need to sell this bike and am willing to negotiate.

Ridden 4 times all Summer.  Why am I selling it?  I found out I am not
an avid bike rider.  It was a whim.

This bike is basically NEW.  Shop around and compare.  You won't find a
better deal.

Call Joel at:

(312) 996-3335 (w)
(312) 784-5075 (h)

or e-mail.

Joel
From: akcs.plato@vpnet.chi.il.us (Daniel Lindahl)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: VIRTUALITY at North Pier
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:55:02 CDT

Where are these VR games and how much do they cost?  Can anyone
give a basic rundown of the experience and the ins and outs
of enjoying it?

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: WBEZ again
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:39:13 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

phil@eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre) writes:
: In article <1992Sep25.034932.20320@midway.uchicago.edu>, sjs6@quads.uchicago.edu (s jonathan silverman) writes:
: |> Nevertheless, there is a suprising amount of wonderful programming.  Some
: 
: But back to my main point....even the local news breaks during Morning
: Edition and All Things Considered are pretty lacking.  The one I really
: hate is the 10 minutes of local news they put in between 7:50 and 8 am
: instead of running Morning Edition.  Poorly produced, poorly prepared,
: and poorly presented.  Sigh....
 
And God do I get sick of learning Heidi Goldfine's name about every 5
mins in the morning.  and then there is that one who sounds like she has
a close pin in her nose.

And then there is the ultra right wing, PLO dominated Sondra Gaer show at
noon.

I loathe jazz but if my tax money has to pay for the programming, I would
prefer noise to pinko partisan politics.
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: VIRTUALITY at North Pier
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:55:22 GMT

Has anyone checked out CYBERIA at North Pier?  They have the new VIRTUALITY
virtual reality games there.

These things are a blast!!  Its the basic VR set-up (helmet, gun).  You
basically try to kill other opponents in cyber-space.  Highly addictive fun and
will surely put BATTLETECH out of business.

They also have something called CYBERIA which I have no idea what it is.

The only problem with the place is the employees.  I'm assuming they hire
teenage computer-geeks for technical reasons but they're just as obnoxious as
the people at BATTLETECH.  No social skills whatsoever, I stood in front of one
guy for 5 minutes waiting for him to stop talking to his free-loading friends,
AAAAAUUUUURRRRGGGHHHH!!!  I swear, this is the only time I ever feel like I'm
old (I'm only 25), when some snotty little shit thinks he owns the place.

Fortunately the game is so fun that I totally forgot about the morons.

There's no way I can describe the game and do it justice so I suggest everyone
run out and try it, and ignore the workstaff. 
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: crawdad@fncent (Matt Crawford)
Subject: Re: ENDANGERED ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH - HELP!
Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:10:22 GMT

>Sure.  Boycott Commonwealth Edison.  Tell them  if they continue
>with the project then we will stop using electricity.  
>
>That will scare them.

Move to St. Charles.  The city buys electricity elsewhere and sells
it to residents more cheaply than Comm Ed's rates.
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: phil@eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre)
Subject: Re: WBEZ again
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:14:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.034932.20320@midway.uchicago.edu>, sjs6@quads.uchicago.edu (s jonathan silverman) writes:
|> Nevertheless, there is a suprising amount of wonderful programming.  Some
|> examples:(1)Mara Tapp regularly does brilliant shows on legal issues...
|> (2) Terry Gross's "Fresh Air"...
|> (3) The morning and evening news shows (Morning Edition and All things 
|> Considered)...

|> This doesn't mean that WBEZ should do away with its Jazz programming, but
|> I don't think that it is fair to slam their other offerings which, while
|> far from perfect, tend to be the best in just about every category.

I feel obliged to point out that 2 and 3 above are part of NPR and are
only carried by WBEZ.  I have found most of the WBEZ-produced information
programs rather poor.  Mara Tapp is hit and miss (some good some bad).
Ken Davis had some good Studio A stuff, but every one else I've heard
sit in for him does a pretty poor job.  I'll miss listening to him when
I'm late for work.  Does anyone know if they are going to continue to
invite David Slavsky to Studio A?

But back to my main point....even the local news breaks during Morning
Edition and All Things Considered are pretty lacking.  The one I really
hate is the 10 minutes of local news they put in between 7:50 and 8 am
instead of running Morning Edition.  Poorly produced, poorly prepared,
and poorly presented.  Sigh....

They should keep the jazz and not do any more local "news and information"
shows until they learn how to do them!

		William LeFebvre
		Computing Facilities Manager and Analyst
		Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
		Northwestern University
		<phil@eecs.nwu.edu>
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:22:13 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <1992Oct1.130847.7837@ll.mit.edu>, yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
>       "ADD" is a falacy.  The majority if not all kids/people
>       with this type of behaviour/attention "disorder" is due
>       to allergic/sensitivity reactions to various foods and
>       things in their environment.
>
>       Prescribing something like Ritalin for "ADD", is like
>       taking "downers" to counteract the "uppers" you just took.

***Flame Mode On, Please don your abestos underwear***

ADD is a very REAL disorder.  It is NOT due to allergies and sensitivity
reactrions.

My brother and I both have ADD.  That's the origional reason I started taking
Imipramine.  (The anti-depressant was chosen because I also am dealing with
depressions...)

My brother is using a drug from the primary group.

It is very real.

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Newsgroups: chi.general
From: hsue@ellis.uchicago.edu (marc jacobson)
Subject: Help Wanted
Reply-To: hsue@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: none to speak of
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:44:36 GMT

Hi,

I am posting stochastic dynamic programming problems which I seek help.
If you are an expert in the filed, would you please email me whatever
suggestions and ideas you have.  Thank you very much in advance.

P.S.
The problems in Latex file in on the next post.


Cheers
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: A Clockwork Kumquat
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 12:47:16 CDT
Distribution: world               
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

There was me, that is Alex, and my three friends, that is Pete, Georgie,
and Dim, Dim being really dim, and we were sitting in the Korova Milkbar
making up our rassodocks what to do with the evening...

-- 
Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS        veck@pshrink.chi.il.us
I *do* speak for the company!                          data: +1 708 540 6772
From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Testing...
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:31:47 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois


Testing chi.

Yeah, I know it doesn't REALLY exist, but I'll post anyway.

-greg

-- 
Gregory A. Gulik                                 Call Gagme, a public access
       greg@serveme.chi.il.us                    UNIX system at 312-282-8606
   ||  gulik@rtsg.mot.com                        For information, drop a note
						 to info@gagme.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.test
From: gary@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Gary Mr.VAX Buchholz)
Subject: test
Reply-To: gary@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:19:27 GMT


tedst
-- 
Gary Buchholz / KE9ZM			Internet: gary@midway.uchicago.edu
University of Chicago			Packet:   KE9ZM@N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
Academic and Public Computing		
1155 East 60'th St., Chicago, Ill.	(312) 702-7611
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Testing, testing...
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 06:30:59 CST
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

There should only be one cat in the country, and people should take turns 
looking at it.

-- 
Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS        veck@pshrink.chi.il.us
I *do* speak for the company!                          data: +1 708 540 6772
Newsgroups: chi.mail,chi.general
From: barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Mr Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Re: gargoyle terminal server
Originator: barnhart@gagme
Organization: Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:55:11 GMT

This is in reply to andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann), who wrote:
:randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess) writes:
:
:>       If you are wondering why email through the U of C terminal
:>       server/clout is not working, seems UofC has changed some of
:>       the motd and other messages sent when logging in.  You will
:>       need to tune your chat scripts.
:
:   My script wasn't affected, but the 'tip' server suddenly stopped working
:if you made a >9600 baud connection. You get 'CONNECTED', and then nothing.
:It was like that last fall (when I started calling), started working this
:summer, and broke again. Something to do with the school year???

I guess so.  You *are* getting the message warning you that TIP access
will be restricted to 9600bps or less until further notice, right? 

Aaron
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King)
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: Something changed at clout?
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 07:33:49 CDT
Distribution: world               
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

Did something change at clout recently?  Up until a few days ago I used
to connect there at 12000 or 14400 (v.32bis).  Now I can still connect
to the university's Gandalf server at that rate and get their text
screen.  But when I enter "tip" and get the "CONNECTED" message...
Nothing.

On a whim today I tried 9600 bps.  That worked just fine!  I noticed
that at the same time these problems started the university changed
their initial text screen to read that they've got new modems.  Hmmm...
Since I can still connect and get the initial text blurb I don't think
it's a modem problem, but maybe they messed with tip somehow?

Is anyone else seeing the same thing, or am I dreaming?  It's not really
a big deal, since my mail traffic is approximately nil.  9600 is plenty
fast.  It'd just be nice to know what's going on.

-- 
Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS        veck@pshrink.chi.il.us
I *do* speak for the company!                          data: +1 708 540 6772
Newsgroups: chi.mail
From: kdenning@portal.hq.videocart.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: Something changed at clout?
Summary: Something has changed this weekend
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Distribution: world               
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:20:40 GMT

In article <veck02685920825073349@pshrink.chi.il.us> veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King) writes:
>Did something change at clout recently?  Up until a few days ago I used
>to connect there at 12000 or 14400 (v.32bis).  Now I can still connect
>to the university's Gandalf server at that rate and get their text
>screen.  But when I enter "tip" and get the "CONNECTED" message...
>Nothing.
>
>On a whim today I tried 9600 bps.  That worked just fine!  I noticed
>that at the same time these problems started the university changed
>their initial text screen to read that they've got new modems.  Hmmm...
>Since I can still connect and get the initial text blurb I don't think
>it's a modem problem, but maybe they messed with tip somehow?
>
>Is anyone else seeing the same thing, or am I dreaming?  It's not really
>a big deal, since my mail traffic is approximately nil.  9600 is plenty
>fast.  It'd just be nice to know what's going on.

Something did indeed change this weekend; I can no longer get in at above
9600 bps either.

If anyone gets a cause or cure for this I'd appreciate knowing about it.

-- 
Karl Denninger 		Inet:  kdenning@hq.videocart.com
VideOcart Inc.		Voice: (312) 987-5022
Xref: sparky chi.mail:154 chi.general:1205
From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Newsgroups: chi.mail,chi.general
Subject: Re: gargoyle terminal server
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 19:20:27 CDT
Distribution: chi
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess) writes:

>       If you are wondering why email through the U of C terminal
>       server/clout is not working, seems UofC has changed some of
>       the motd and other messages sent when logging in.  You will
>       need to tune your chat scripts.

   My script wasn't affected, but the 'tip' server suddenly stopped working
if you made a >9600 baud connection. You get 'CONNECTED', and then nothing.
It was like that last fall (when I started calling), started working this
summer, and broke again. Something to do with the school year???

--
Andrew Rossmann            | Sysop of Infoplus BBS, +1 708 537 0247
andyross@infopls.chi.il.us | Infoplus Support, latest version available
 uunet!infopls!andyross    | by logging in as infoplus. [v32bis/v42bis]
                      NO new taxes...NO new gambling
From: jrd@cutie.acns.nwu.edu (John R. Dennison)
Subject: Re: gargoyle terminal server
Organization: Black Bag Midwest
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:51:52 GMT

In article <s5VXRB3w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann) writes:
>
>   My script wasn't affected, but the 'tip' server suddenly stopped working
>if you made a >9600 baud connection. You get 'CONNECTED', and then nothing.
>It was like that last fall (when I started calling), started working this
>summer, and broke again. Something to do with the school year???

	Hmm, sounds like what was happening to me at uumeme.chi.il.us
	around April-May.  I could not get a connection via a Hayes
	Optima running at 19.2Kb.  I gave up trying after a lot of
	frustration and had Greg Gulik set me up with gagme as our
	mail router.

	If connections greater then 9600 *do* work, perhaps it would
	be to my benefit to switch back to clout?


						John
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From: randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess)
Subject: gargoyle terminal server
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:18:33 GMT


	If you are wondering why email through the U of C terminal
	server/clout is not working, seems UofC has changed some of
	the motd and other messages sent when logging in.  You will
	need to tune your chat scripts.
-- 
	I am created Shiva the Destroyer; Death, the shatterer of worlds!
	Who is this dog meat who stands before me now?
	That's the biz, sweetheart.
Randy Suess					 randy@chinet.chi.il.us
From: acg@hermes.dlogics.com (Andrew C. Green)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: pizza
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:32:58 CST
Distribution: chi.eats
Organization: Datalogics, Inc., Chicago, IL

In article <2ac47d16-6bchi.eats@ddsw1.MCS.COM>, akcs.phalynn@ddsw1.MCS.COM 
(phalynn powers) writes:
> i am looking for pizza in chicago, not just Any pizza but thr best.  i
> have giordinos (?\) ginos and bacinos and am still in serch of the best. 
> i live inthe city and work in arl hts so suburbs are an option 

In Arlington Heights, the far-and-away mostest-bestest pizza is found at
Tortorice's on Central at Busse (maybe that's actually Mount Prospect).
Haven't tried a thick crust, but their thin crust is exceptional and their
extra-thin crust, a special-request item, is amazing -- crisp, nice tasting
and doesn't overwhelm the ingredients. They're mainly a delivery/takeout
place, although there's a table or two if you want to eat it there. I've
tried most of the local outfits over the past few years and Tortorice's
is definitely the best.

-- Andy
From: leah@smith.CHI.IL.US (L.A.Z. Smith)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: pizza
Date: 3 Oct 92 17:24:32 GMT
Reply-To: leah@smith.UUCP (L.A.Z. Smith)
Organization: R. H. E. Smith Corp., Wheeling, IL

In article <veck02722920829203745@pshrink.chi.il.us> veck@pshrink.chi.il.us 
(Steven King) writes:

>My favorite (and granted I haven't tried them all) is Edwardo's.  Their
>pesto-and-sausage stuffed pizza is pretty much unbeatable.

Hear, hear.  But it's even better with mushrooms and garlic added.  

L.A.Z. Smith   leah@smith.chi.il.us
From: mrios@meltdown.chi.il.us (Michael Rios)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: New place!  Need recommendations!
Date: 26 Sep 92 00:07:35 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

Howdy.  I'm moving into Bensenville over the weekend, and I'd like some
recommendations.  Where, near Grand and York, can I find good:

        - pizza
        - gyros
        - chow mein

Thanks a heap!

mike rios.              mrios@meltdown.chi.il.us (somewhat reliable)
                        mrios@cigseg.rtsg.mot.com (a bit more reliable)
                        voice 708/665-7516 (undeniably reliable)
                        brainwave pattern a4563.a1121.b0023.43 (good luck)
Newsgroups: chi.eats