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From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Presents for 7-10 y.o. boys
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:43:21 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <92210.150433CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu> CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu (Chris Himes) writes:
>I need some suggestions of appropriate gifts for boys about 7 to 10 years
>old.  These guys recently got a PC and like games, but I don't know much
>about what type they like.  I know they enjoy board games, too, and are big
>fans of Chicago sports--Bulls and Cubs.  What about science stuff, any
>suggestions?  Ideally, I would like to spend only around $20.  I don't have
>a lot of experience with young boys, not ever having been one.  My husband
>is not much help--all he like s to do is fish.....(another post all
>together!)
>
>Chris Himes

Just for reference, my kids are 10, 7 3/4, and 5 1/2.  They are all boys.
I also have a 9-year old nephew.

Board games are always fun at this age.  My boys like:

Monopoly
Battleship
Chess 
Checkers
Uno
(Others I can't remember).

I nice chess set, with a promise of instruction, if they don't know
how to play, might be nice.

Here are some of the things my kids like to play with and
enjoy getting as gifts:

My oldest (10) loves legos, construx, etc.  He never really
met a construction toy he didn't like. He also has a computer chess
game that he is really just becoming good enough to enjoy playing with
(he claims that once he "almost" beat it !).

My nephew (now 9) absolutely LOVES cars and trucks (actually, my boys
are pretty fond of them , too).  He also really likes "playmobile"
stuff (and do my two younger boys, but not as much as my nephew).

My middle son like "imagination" type stuff -- costumes, etc.

Big wooden blocks are still some of my kids favorite toys, but
many kids have these by ages 7 to 10.  Maybe also some kids
are growing beyond them at this age (but mine aren't). The
biggest beef about blocks in our house is that some brother
or other is using up all the blocks (and lest you wonder, we
have two milk crates and a laundry basked FULL of wooden blocks.).
The big ones are pretty pricey, though, even the starter sets.

My nephew recently got an electric train he enjoys, but this
would cost far more than your budget.

"Art supplies", like paints, a "spin art", finger paints, etc,
are always fun. And the good thing is that paints and paper get
used up, so  you can give them again next time :-).

Books are still much appreciated by my kids.  My oldest has a 
great "space" book that we ordered from national geographic society
(several hundred pages, full of photos, etc.).  He also has a
kids book of rocks and minerals that he likes. And of course, there
are always story books.

We've gotten the boys some "science toys", but none of them have been a 
big hit.  Anyone out there have some really good "science toy" suggestions?
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: anderson@prowler.navo.navy.mil (Douglas T Anderson)
Subject: Birth Announcement and Details
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-23498]: prowler.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: anderson@pops.navo.navy.mil
Organization: POPS Facility Managment
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:30:08 GMT

Christine and Douglas Anderson have the exteme pleasure of
announcing the birth of:

	Kimberley Cecelia Anderson
	27 July 1992
	13:42 Central time
	8 lbs 5 oz
	22 inches
	14.5" head diameter
	13.5" chest diameter

	APGAR: 10 (aced her first test!)

	Mother and Baby are home and doing well.

Details:

	Kimberley is our first born.

	Chris was due on 17 July and that date came and went with
	nothing happening.  Her OB told us if nothing had happened by 14
	days she could plan on a C section due to her age. (dont ask her
	age, she may read this and if I told.....OUCH!!!) 

	On Sunday 26 July at 1400 Chris was sitting down to lunch after
	spending the morning working in the garden when her water
	broke. We called the OB (as instructed) and were told to come to
	hospital even though Chris wasn't feeling any labor pains at all.

	We arrived at approximately 1600 and settled into the Birthing
	Room.  Throughout the evening the contractions stayed at 7-8
	minutes with little change in intensity. 

	Monday morning at 0800 the OB arrives and decides its time for
	Pitosson (sp?).  Things really started to move rapidly now.  By
	1000 Chris was at 6 cm the contractions were 1-2 minutes appart
	and quite strong.  I tried to talk her into getting an epidural
	at this point but she opted for 50 mg of Demoral.  By 1100 Chris
	was at 9 cm and in quite a bit of pain, she decided an epidural
	was called for.  

	By the time they had the epidural in, Chris was at 10 cm, and we
	went to the delivery room (policy says no epidural's in birhting
	rooms, beats me why).  By 1342 we had a beautiful baby girl.

	Its a good thing the baby is a girl too, we never did decide on
	a boys name.

	The only 'excitement' well, out of the ordinary excitement that
	is, is after Kimberly was delivered and we were in post-partum
	recovery, Chris's uvula swelled up and effectively blocked her
	ability to breath through her mouth.  Fortunately she could
	still breath through her nose and a shot of benedryl brought the
	swelling down.  We still dont know what caused that to happen.

	One other piece of information you may find interesting.
	Christine is a twin, she was born on 27 July, and so was our
	baby.  Chris said she aged a full year while she was in labor.
	(went in on the 26th and ended on the 27th.)

	Today (30 July) Kimberley had to go back to hospital for a
	bellirubin, yesterday she was at 10.5 so they wanted to check
	her again.  Other then that, both ladies are doing great.
-- 
Douglas T Anderson
Engineering Manager - POPS Program

All opinions expressed are mine and mine alone.  They do not
reflect the opinions of Grumman Data Systems, the US Navy or any
one else, unless they want them to.
From: lawder@ohsu3b2.ohsu.EDU (Kathryn Lawder)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: baby's last name?
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:06:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Jul24.010604.29741
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University

After going around and around on this one, we finally decided to use
my husband's surname for the children.  Why?

Because it's a custom in our culture and we Americans have precious
few traditions to retain.

Also because it was more important to him than to me.  He wouldn't
admit he was worrying about it, but the subject kept coming up from
his initiative and I finally reassured him in this way.

Honey, if they're your children, we'll give them your last name.
Gave him something new to ponder ;>
 
Kath
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Be More Than Food For The Moon
    Be What You Came Here For
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--
From: kati@glnserv.UUCP (Lady Dragon)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Thanks + Question re: Sharing between one-year-olds (LONG)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 06:07:47 CDT
Organization: Vermi-net, Houston, Tx. 77098

mona@scubed.com (Mona Ellis) writes:
> >     Toddler Property Laws
> >
> >    1. If I like it, it's mine.
> >    2. If it's in my hand, it's mine.
> >    3. If I can take it from you, it's mine.
> >    4. If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.
> >    5. If it's mine, it must never appear to be yours in any way.
> >    6. If I'm doing or building something, all the pieces are mine.
> >    7. If it looks just like mine, it's mine.
> >
>    As the mother of a 22 month old I got a kick out of this.  Actually
>    there seemes to be only one Property Law for almost 2 year olds.
>
>      1.  EVERYTHING IS MINE.
>
>
>    mona@scubed.scubed.com  (Who has heard the words "Mine," "No," and
>                           "I want" atleast a thousand times in the
>                           last 3 months.)
>

Heh. I guess I'm lucky that my 2YO hasn't bothered learning to talk yet.
:)

* * email address: nuchat!xcluud!glnserv!kati * Houston, Texas, USA, Earth * *




Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: M16585@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Spanking?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:49:51 GMT

In article <3262@master.CNA.TEK.COM>
judyd@aspen.CNA.TEK.COM (Judy E. Drake) writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Jul29.184517.23401@mdd.comm.mot.com> nelson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Mike Nelson) writes:
>>I'm sure looking forward to the tantrum in the busy store scene. 8-(
>>
>>I think I'll try to ignore it and withstand the onlookers stares.
>>
>>Is there a better way?
>
>My son (age 3) has never thrown a tantrum in public (thank goodness),
>but I don't understand the philosophy of always ignoring tantrums.  He
>throws tantrums when he's tired or hungry or frustrated.  He doesn't
>do it to control the situation or me or his dad.  He seems to do it
>because he can't help it.  I usually respond by trying to address the
>root problem of the behavior--feeding him if he's hungry or getting
>him home to bed if he's tired.  If neither of these options is
>immediately available, for example, in a store or other public place,
>I would try to distract him from his discomfort.  Very rarely have
>I ever felt that ignoring his behavior was the right answer, and in
>some cases it would have been downright cruel.
>
>Has anyone else had this experience with the tantrum age?
>
>Judy Drake
 
You took the words right out of my mouth---word for word---I'm impressed
Are you psychic?
 
Ellie
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Problem hair: Mom's
From: Alice Ruijzenaars <SELD1054@HASARA11.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 1992 13:20:36 CET
Organization: SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam

Yes, my hair changed during my first pregnancy. I had very thick, curly, dry
hair all my life, but when I got pregnant it turned a lot thinner, more
greesy and I lost a lot of my curls. I didn't come right after delivery.
I'm pregnant with my second now and it looks like I'm loosing curls every
week, so maybee I'll end up with straight hair. And that doesn't look
good on my at all! sigh.
Alice Ruijzenaars.
(mom to 2.4 old Remy and due on september 4)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: chris@fnbc.com (Chris Toczycki)
Subject: Re: Twelve yr. old caught stealing women's underwear!
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:08:27 GMT

In article <skipa.712375594@milton> skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip  
Albertson) writes:
> If your 12 yr. old boy was caught stealing women's underwear
> at a department store, what would you do?

A future politician in the making.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna Watson)
Subject: Re: Having children close together-happy stories wanted
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:32:14 GMT

I have 2 boys, 5.5 and 7.5.  They are 25 months apart.  We planned
it that way; neither my husband nor I were terribly fond of the baby
stage, so we wanted to get it over with as soon as possible.  We also
planned on travelling/camping, and thought it would be nice to have
kids close in age who would likely have similar interests, and could
amuse eachother.  My husband was an only child, and always felt 
lonely on family trips; I have a brother 2.5 yrs younger, and always
had someone to play with.  So far, it seems to have gone more or less
as we had hoped/expected (insofar as anything in parenting is as one
had expected), and seems to keep getting better as they get older.

-- 
Seanna Watson   Bell-Northern Research, 
(seanna@bnr.ca) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Opinions, what opinions?  Oh *these* opinions. | It's hard to seize the
No, they're not BNR's, they're mine.           | day when you must first
I knew I'd left them somewhere.                | grapple with the morning.
From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: "SHE DESERVED TO GET HIT"!!!!!!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 07:48:26 GMT
Organization: Sylvan Associates

In article <1992Jul17.154645.4472@ll.mit.edu> yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:

	   She's so busy that when they went to my wifes parents house
	   yesterday, when Stacey took a nap, EVERYONE took a nap.

	   I owe her one!!!!

You owe her one, what?  You mean you owe her a 'hit'?  For being a
healthy, active, and exuberant child?

AlanY, I don't know why you want to have another child, and I don't
care to hear why. I hope it isn't *just* to keep your daughter company
and busy, because having a second is a h*ll of a lot of work - you
still will need to give Stacey lots of love and attention, or she'll
hate the baby and you'll be spending the next 20 years playing referee
between them.

We've all heard of the sacrifices you've gone through to make another
child. Quite frankly, loving a child and making sacrifices do NOT say
anything about the quality of your parenting. A many an abused child
(and I am NOT saying that Stacey is 'abused') have come from homes
where they *were* loved, and where the parents did make sacrifices.
But that is not enough.

Treating a child with respect, even when they engage in annoying
behavior, that is an accomplishment. Not just going for an operation.




-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory born 2/28/92
=======================
I'm a mammal and proud of it!

4 month old Robin weighed 17.5 lbs, 25.5 inches tall, solely breastfed
by 'supermomcow' :-)
From: mueller@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Nancy Mueller)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Blue Cross Blue Shield and C-Sections
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:49:11 GMT
Reply-To: mueller@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Nancy Mueller)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I can't believe I heard this correctly, but is Blue Cross Blue Shield
(of Maryland only?) truly adopting the policy of releasing all Mothers,
C-section or not, after 24 hours?!!  Are they crazy?  Please, someone
tell me this is not true.

	    Nancy
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Use of drugs during labor
From: jws@hp835.mitek.com (Jeanetha Wemken)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:21:38 GMT
Organization: OpenConnect Systems, Dallas, TX

In article <1992Jul29.201849.16412@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes:
>In article <2080@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM> chrisw@chopin.FtCollins.NCR.com (Chris Whitley) writes:
>>[stuff deleted]
>>>That way they won't give you an epidural.  I can't imagine
>>> having a tube stuck in my back.  Ow!  Since my doctor (Ms.
>>> Demoral) didn't show up, I escaped that also.  I can't
>>> imagine an iv sticking in my arm either.
>>
>>Hey, I don't care if you believe in drugs during labor or not.
>>But to suggest that the pain of inserting the epidural (which
>>in most cases ELIMINATES the pain of labor) is of any significance
>>AT ALL compared to the pain of labor is beyond my comprehension.
>>For those of you yet to deliver, do not let this issue (pain of
>>inserting/wearing epidural) deter you if you would otherwise 
>>opt for an epidural.
>>
>>Chris
>
>  Yeah, but I've had MORE THAN ONE friend tell me that
>  the epidural was the most painful part of it all.
>  One friend said that it took all her human will
>  power not to sink her teeth into the nurse's
>  arm.  I went through the pain of labor and I didn't
>  think it was so bad that I wanted to bite the nurse!
>  And my friend who had the spinal said it was the
>  worse and she had headaches afterwards.  Regular
>  labor pains go away as soon as the contraction
>  stops.  And the pain doesn't last too long.
>
>  Just curious, have you experienced both epidural
>  pain and labor pain?  Perhaps you can tell us which
>  is better.

I'll take the epidural pain, of course, I didn't get the headaches.

Jeanetha - Mom to Gregg(19) and Laura Jean(2)
From: lm3a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Laura McGinnis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: practical (and cheap!) baby gifts for new mom
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:13:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.keReS9S00UhWE1jaR2
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 28-Jul-92 in practical (and cheap!) baby..
user elizabeth@ux1.cso.uiuc.e writes:
>What's a practical  (and cheap remember I'm a poor college
>student) gift that you would have loved to have gotten as a first time
>parent?

As the mother of 2 (Mickey, 2.75 yrs; Margaret 7 weeks), my favorite
gifts have been:

play clothes, especially "onesies" (one-piece underwear) and rompers
disposable diapers (even with diaper service, we use them when we go out)
receiving blankets, crib sheets, hooded towels, wash clothes
cloth diapers (for nursing & burping; softer than diaper service diapers)
a small diaper bag (for short trips; filled or empty)
audio tapes of lullabies & children's songs
hygiene supplies (vaseline, baby bath soap, cornstartch powder, brush & comb)
health supplies (thermometer, infnat tylenol, bulb syringe)
baby bottle starter sets (playtex makes a nice one)
food (for parents); a meal that she doesn't have to cook herself is GREAT!
handmade anything, especially afgans
nightlight for the nursery

One of the hardest things for me is keeping up with laundry, so I
subscribe to the "more is better" school.  The more tee-shirts, onesies,
burp diapers & blankets I have, the less often I have to do laundry.

I also like to give a toy when I give clothes (I remember as a kid how
much I disliked getting clothes as gifts; newborns don't know the
difference, but I do :-).  Usually what I do is get a pacifier, rattle,
or small stufed animal & tie it on as decoration for the wrapping.  Some
of Mickey's favorite toys came this way.

Things to avoid:

"newborn" sizes for anything except tee-shirts, onesies, kimonos
clothing in larger sizes; stick to 3-9 month sizes;
pacifiers, unless you know your friend will prefer that to thumb-sucking
large toys, especially stuffed animals
fancy anything; parents & grandparents will usually fulfill these needs (:-)


I hope this helps.

Laura
From: IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Barbie dolls
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:28:41 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

real barbies or anythign that resembles a barbie?  some of
the "fake" barbies are pretty good-quality dolls, too, and
cheaper...
                                     -ailsa
From: seb1@leia.dr.att.com (sharon badian)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Spanking?
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:13:12 GMT
Reply-To: seb1@druhi.att.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Bell Labs, Denver, CO.

In article <1992Jul28.143510.6791@ll.mit.edu>, yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
|> 	Even *I*, the advocate of spanking, disagree with this.
|> 
|> 	Our daughter threw a tantrum once.  My wife walked away.
|> 				     ^^^^

My mom used this method. I'm one of three daughters. I remember my sister
once throwing a tantrum in a busy department store. I'm sure many people
would consider this to be an embarrassing situation. My mom just ignored
her. Mom said we threw very few tantrums. My mom's take on it was we were
doing it for the attention. She just wouldn't give us the satisfaction of
giving us any while the tantrum was in progress. But, of course, you have
to be willing to withstand the looks of strangers. My mom is very good at
that.

-- 
Sharon Badian
AT&T Bell Labs - Denver
seb1@druhi.att.com
From: ruth@lewis.EE.CORNELL.EDU (Ruth Onn)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Spanking?
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:19:31 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I use counting with my 2y7mo. It works very differently though,
very differently from what I envisioned whrn I introduced it.
I say we have to put your diaper on, do you want to lie on it
yourself? Lets count, should we count to 3 or to five? 
We count together and at the count of 3 (or 5) he lies down.
It is very funny, but it works!
Ruth.
From: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: how long to feel back normal after pregnancy?
Date: 30 Jul 1992 18:28:25 GMT
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <l7frgnINNonr@earth.cs.utexas.edu>, adf@cs.utexas.edu (Angela Dappert-Farquhar) writes:
|> ....I have this
|> theory that women with relatively low weight at the beginning of their
|> pregnancy have a harder time getting back to prepregnancy weight. Can
|> anyone support or refute this?

I'm sure that the fact that I was over my "ideal weight" before I
got pregnant is why I'm now only four pounds over my pre-pregnancy 
weight, three months after my son's birth. I'm hoping that
continued nursing will get me below my original weight.

I'm a lot more than four pounds *fatter*, though. Oh, well, getting
back in shape is a lot more fun than not eating is. Walking is much
better exercise when I'm carrying Will in his Sara's Ride carrier.

The effect of nursing varies from one person to another. It increases 
your caloric expenditure, but the hormone prolactin tends to increase 
fat reserves, so it can go either way. I've seen reports of studies
where the prolactin antagonist bromocriptine has been used as a diet
drug, evidently with some success. Not that I'd try it if I were
dieting (obviously when not nursing).

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu

Cute thing: I'm wearing my wedding ring on a chain around my neck, 
because my fingers are still fatter than before I got pregnant, and 
I'm nursing Will as I type: Will's been playing with it as he nurses, 
and now he has my ring on the middle finger of his right hand!
From: skejriwa@donald.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Sangita Kejriwal)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Having children close together-happy stories wanted
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:55:08 GMT
Organization: NCR Corporation Wichita, KS

<1992Jul20.182159.14708@cs.ucla.edu> <92202.174950CXF12@psuvm.psu.edu>
<92203.143726ELDREDGE@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Reply-To: skejriwa@donald.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Sangita Kejriwal)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Corporation Wichita, KS
Keywords: 

My newsfeed seems to have missed the original article & the respective
followups..., so would appreciate if someone who has been saving the
responses in this thread or following it closely would take a
few minutes to help me catch up on this topic.  I am really
interested in this discussion as I have a 10+ month old & I am
bedresting to avoid preterm labor (AGAIN!!) & have my second
"punkikin" by the end of August!  Hopefully the babies will be
atleast 12 months apart!
                               
Sangita (mom to Arnav: almost 11 mths. & baby2: 34weeks-ready-to-come).
-- 

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