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From: bet@sbi.com (Bennett Todd @ Salomon Brothers Inc., NY )
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A discipline for packages
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:21:57 GMT


Well, I've seen the System V packaging tools, as used in Solaris 2.x
(pkgadd, pkgrm, pkginfo, ...). I'd rather use the current SLS system; it's a
much cleaner, simpler approach, though maybe not as powerful. My big
complaints with the System V packaging tools are that they try to solve to
many different (and often only loosely related) problems, and that they make
no real effort to exploit existing Unix standards and utilities.

For stuff I add to my own machine, I probably won't bother making new SLS
packages; I'll probably just use /usr/local/src/pkgname.tar.Z to hold the
sources, and /usr/local/{bin,lib,man,...} to contain the installed files.
Then I'll just back up my home directory and /usr/local before a major
upgrade. Sure, it isn't as potent and powerful as a real package management
system, but then a home box doesn't need to be as complex as a commercial
system. A lot of the power of the serious package management tools really
only justifies the effort when you've got a _huge_ computer to maintain, or
when you have many many machines to administer.

-Bennett
bet@sbi.com
From: michael@utricle.nbg.sub.org (Michael Kaufmann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: problems with linux-installation
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:00:29 GMT
Organization: privat amiga-site

I have a Sanyo 386DX/25MHz/4MB,VGA,AT-Bus HD, 1*par+2*ser(onboard).
I have the LINUX installation-disk for LINUX 0.98.
The LINUX-installation on this pc makes problems.

Here is the 'screen-dump' for you ... 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ttys0 at 0x03f8 (irq=4) is a 16450
ttys1 at 0x02f8 (irq=3) is a 16450
8 virtual consoles
lp_init: lp1 exists (0)
no Logitech bus mouse detected
no PS/2 type pointing device detected
no Microsoft bus mouse detected
no ATI bus mouse detected
Memory: 2644k/4096k available (356k kernel, 384k reserved, 712k data)
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M , fd1 is unknown type 0
floppy unexpected interrupt
sock_init: initializing family 1 (AF_UNIX)
scsi: 0 hosts.
scsi: detected 0 SCSI disks 0 tapes 0 CD-rom drives total.
hda:
 part 1 start 17 since 82943 end 82959
Partition table ok.
Ram disk: 631808 bytes, starting at 0x116b00
Loading 624640 bytes into ram disk
............
done
Linux Version 0.98.pl1-36 (root@softland) 10/12/91 14:47:41

      /lib/libc.so.4 (4.0)
child 0 died with code 0000

      /lib/libc.so.4 (4.0)
child 1 died with code 0000

      /lib/libc.so.4 (4.0)
child 2 died with code 0000

      /lib/libc.so 4 (4.0)
child 3 .....

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This errror-message comes over and over again. Only the nuber behind child
increase.
The disk is correct, because the installation (with the same disk) makes no
problems on another pc.

I have the Phoenix 1.1 BIOS (all Features are disabled).

What could be the reason for this problem?

please help me!

thanx!

PS: excuse my terrible english 

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From: tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: X-Tree for UNIX
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:28:35 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


x11emacs:     Ctrl-x d
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: quick q
Date: 6 Jan 1993 01:47:40 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

ppc1@cec2.wustl.edu (Peter Pui Tak Chiu) writes:


>hi everyone,

>i have a few questions on linux.

>1.  when i boot up linux using the floppy disk, i see the following messages:
>	Warning WD8013 board not found at i/o = 280.
>	ioctl: invalid argument
>    are they normal?

>2.  i set up a 10MB swap partition using fdisk by specifing it as a Linux swap
>    partition.  how do i know that linux is using it as swap memory?  how can
>    i check the current free memory?

>3.  how can i change the node name from "softland" to something i like?

>thanks in advance

>peter

1). This happens because you don't have a WD8013 board. So, you get errors
	Nothing really to worry about.

2). You have to use the command swapon to use the swap partiton. And the
    command for finding free memory is ... (drum roll here please )

			free

3). The command hostname will change the name of the system. Check /etc/rc for
	where it sets it.

4). Get the FAQ.. All these should be answered there. And many others I am sure.

James
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From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: Linux setup Questions
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:12:52 GMT

Michael Reed (reed@rd08.wg2.waii.com) wrote:
: I have installed Linux from the SLS release on my home 486 and run into
: a couple of problems/wierdnesses.
: 
: 2) Besides the root, I added one other user to the system.  If I list
: the users files as root, it displays the correct ownership.  However,
: if log in as the user, a whoami claims that UID 405 is not found, and
: the file ownership is shown as 405 not as user reed.  (The entry in
: /etc/passwd is correct, but somehow only accessed by the root.)

Have you checked the ownership of /etc/passwd, and /etc/group
so that they have general read permission?

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From: roberts@decsun3.cray.com
Subject: /proc inquiry
Organization: Cray Research, Inc., Chippewa Falls, WI
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:34:47 CST


I've been trying to use the proc filesystem and have a small problem.
I am using linux 0.99 pl1, but I get the same results with pl0.
I am mounting /proc with the command

	mount -t proc /proc /proc

which works fine, I can "cd /proc" and see directories for each process.
However, when I go into any of these, the links point nowhere:

	cwd -> ---
	exe -> ---
	root -> ---

Doing a "cd cwd" leaves me in the same place. Same thing goes for the
links in the "fd" directory and "lib" directory. Am I correct in thinking 
that the link should point to the actual files or directories?  I am
doing all this as root, so there shouldn't be any permission problems.

I've searched the FAQ but I couldn't find an answer there. Any help 
here would be much appreciated.

Mike Roberts
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From: pfau@coffee.enet.dec.com (Thomas Pfau)
Subject: Problem: ps/2 mouse
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:19:22 GMT


I've finally gotten X running under Linux 0.98pl5 on my wd90c30.  Now I'm
having trouble with the mouse.

/usr/X386/tst/mouse/mouse returns garbage as I move the mouse around.
When X comes up, the mouse just jumps around, mostly along the top of the
screen.  It doesn't respond to button presses.

Anyone know what's wrong?

tom_p
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From: lmy@ncn.UUCP (Lars Myraas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS's tcpip - doesn't work for me !
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:40:08 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Inf. A/S
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

pfr@psun2.hmi.de (Fritsch_Wolfgang) writes:
: 
: But alas, next time I boot there is again 'softland' for hostname!
: So. how can I make my hostname permanent, please? I may have more problems
: but there is no hope before I can clear this one.
: 
Change the setting 'hostname softland' in /etc/rc.local

If you have installed the kernel-sources (b4), you will find settings for the wd8013 board in /linux/net/tcp/Space.c

Good luck.
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From: Eckehard.Stolz@bbs.gold.sub.org (Eckehard Stolz)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ST01/02 and Syquest 5110
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:24:17 GMT
Reply-To: Eckehard.Stolz@bbs.gold.sub.org (Eckehard Stolz)
Organization: Unix Mailbox Baldham
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10b S/N 165921

Hi Linuxer !

I've a Problem with the Syquest 5110 (88MB) and the Seagate St01/02
Controller. I managed Linux (99p2) to detect +0the drive and to fdisk it. I
tried some Head/Cylinder/Sector values and it seemed to work. I was also
able to mkfs the disk, but when I tried to copy data to the mounted disk,
the system is rebooting.

Any Hints ???

If there is anyone, who got the Syquest 5110 running under Linux, please
tell me and give me the values for Head/Cylinder/Sectors.

Eckehard

ps.: efdisk didn't work (bad magic number in superblock)
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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: SCSI disk geometry
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:27:50 GMT

Joe Panico (joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu) wrote:

: Great work on the SCSI drivers-- this has opened new venues for me. I'm
: having a small problem. "fdisk sda1" will not let me change the partition
: table until I feed it the disk geometry (hd,cyl,sect). What geometry does
: linux want to see? Dummy values produce errors when I mkefs. If I use
: the geometry provided by drive manufacturer (MAXTOR), I cannot make a 
: single partition larger than something like 64M, even though I using
: ext fs. What is the proper way to do this. If it helps, I'm running
: SLS p5-49. Thanks very much for any help you can give me.

I thought the usage was "fdisk /dev/sda".  And, just to be fair, Eric Youngdale
and lots of other folks have been working on the SCSI drivers besides Drew.

Just thought that everyone ought to get credit for it... :)
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From: ellmenre@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Nils Ellmenreich)
Subject: Re: Problems mounting a floppy!!!!!!!!
Keywords: mounting floppy problems fstab
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:02:18 GMT

In article <1i94fmINNnds@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>, jansen@bruichladdich.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Jansen) writes:
|> How can I mount a floppy ????
|> Trying to mount the floppy with :
|> 
|> mount /dev/fd0 /floppy (where floppy is a created subdirectory)
|> 
|> I get the message: "/dev/fd0 allready mounted or /floppy busy "

There are three possibilities:

 - You didn't put a filesystem on the floppy. Do that by typing
	mkfs /dev/fd0 1440              (for 3.5" HD)

 - The directory /floppy is not empty.

 - You have already mounted sth. on /floppy.

Hope that helps!

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From: hfaester@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hannes Faestermann)
Subject: TeX binaries of the SLS distribution not consistent
Summary: TeX binaries of the SLS distribution not consistent
Keywords: TeX, SLS
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:40:51 GMT

Hi!

First my thanks to Thomas Dunbar for his nice gift of TeX (and of course to
Peter MacDonald for the easy-installable SLS distribution.

Now to my complaints :)

Last weekend I did a complete reinstall from the SLS distribution, using the
newest stuff to be found on tsx-11.mit.edu. To my surprise tex left me with
the message that it couldn't find the 4.2 C-library. After a checking a bit
I realized (in fact I read the file files.tex from the disk t1...) that the
binaries were built with gcc2.3.3 & 4.2 libs. As the rest of the SLS
distribution is built with gcc2.2.2 & 4.1 libs, this might not be such a good
idea.
If I got that right, upgrading to gcc2.3.3 would mean, that most binaries
would need recompiling. Fortunately I had the old binaries still on a disk
so I can run tex now. But for other people without this luck this would be
a real problem.
So is there a solution around ?

	Hannes

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From: romano@pimac2.iet.unipi.it (Romano Giannetti)
Subject: lpr/lpd suite bugs?
Organization: Dipartimento di Informatica, Universita' di Pisa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:27:16 GMT

Hi all.
I have installed lpr/lpd almost successfully; in particular, I have
managed to have a "ps" entry in /etc/printcap that emulates a
postscript printer calling gs and preparing a file for an bj10e of a
friend of mine that I can "cat" to /dev/lp1. I have some problem,
that I ask to you:

#1 When doing a lpq from my non-privileged account I have the message
   "Warning: daemon not present" or similar, but lpd is there, from
   the other "root" VC I have a "ps i ready and printing" , and all
   seems go well... permissions broken? But where?

#2 I have a plain ascii entry in the printcap, for when I have the
   printer connected; but if I make a wrong "lpr" when lp1 is not
   connected, ALL my VC's are filled of "lp1 off line" messages, and I
   can only do a "lprm" blindly to stop it. I have syslogd running; on
   the log file I see:
<timestamp> lpd[311] restarting lp
<timestamp> last message repeated 456 times
   It is a bug or a bad-used (by me) feature?

#3 lprm seem to be buggy: if there is one only job in the queue, it
   work well; if there are two or more jobs, whatever thing I try I
   obtain: 
   <see down>: lp: Too many requests
   where in the place of <see down> there is an "apparently" random
   char (it is the same if you have the same files in the queue), and
   no files are removed. So what?

Thank you very mauch. If I have answer, or if I manage to make things
   work, I will post a summary here. (We need some more summary on
   c.o.l., I think...).

I am running 0.99pl1, loopback only tcp/ip, libc.so.4.2 (one of the latest
release).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ghensle@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: Install question - Video mode
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 03:14:19 GMT


I finally got around to getting Linux after hearing all the good things about
it but I am having some trouble with it.

I FTP'd the boot and root image and I was able to uncompress and rawrite them
to floppys but when I try and boot the bootdisk it throws my monitor into
a higher resolution than it can support. (Stuck with 640*480 for a while longer
:)  )

Is there a way I can make it come up in text mode or normal VGA?

Gary Hensley
ghensle@andy.bgsu.edu
ghensle@opie.bgsu.edu
From: dsc3pzp@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Philip Perucci)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: AI on Linux?
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:37:34 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

Hello,

  I don't suppose anyone out there is doing any "serious AI" on Linux?
What I am looking for is any of the following:

  1) PROLOG
  2) Expert System
  3) Neural Networks Toolkit
  4) Sybolic Math Package

I am aware of CLISP on SLS, but have not seen any applications for it,
and the documentation for CLISP all seems to be in German (being American,
I have enough trouble with English...).  I tried SWI-Prolog, but it does
not compile off-the-shelf.  Hacking SWI-Prolog got me nowhere, v1.6.6 and
v1.6.7.  While I am aware of earlier ports, I don't like having difficulty
keeping up with latest version of a "product".

Hearing of anything that compiles "off-the-shelf" with Linux 0.99pl2,
gcc 2.3.3, and libc 4.2 would be MOST appreciated!!!
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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: libc.so.4.2 Caveats!
Date: 5 Jan 1993 09:26:24 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

M.Gream@uts.EDU.AU (Matthew Gream) writes:

>Giles D Malet (gdm@shrdlu.kwnet.on.ca) wrote:

>: You have already been told how to reduce the program size (-N).

> Correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt -N also mean that the program is
>not demand page linked? In otherwords at execution time the entire
>file is loaded into memory.

>Matthew.
>--

Yes this is true, and so I wouldn't do it to big binaries like bash, or emacs.

But, what most people are trying to do is get their little programs down to
the smallest possible size. When a program hits 1-2k in size demand paging
isn't going to help. It will all get loaded in almost immediatl under that
scheme anyways.

James
From: janne@seita.oulu.fi (Janne Himanka)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Binary editors (Was: Re: gcc 2.3.3 & libc.so.4.2)
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:57:15 GMT
Organization: Tilde's home bakery

>>>>> On Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:36:23 GMT, janl@ifi.uio.no (Jan Nicolai Langfeldt) said:

> I heard about using emacs to edit binary files, is it the only
> method?

	Jan> Emacs is exelent for binary editing :). Just make sure
	Jan> you don't change the length of anything (put something in
	Jan> for all the bytes you delete, and don't add any bytes).
	Jan> And be sure to keep a backup of the program >:)

You can do this, of course, but a much more flexible way is to use a
dedicated binary editor, so you can also add bytes. I use beav
(compiled it myself), and it is very nice. It looks a lot like emacs.
It lets you view files in a number of different formats and there are
many useful things you can do with it that you can't easily do with an
ordinary editor. The only problem I have with beav is that it insists
on using a 80x24 screen, even in a 90x45 xterm.

Janne
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From: root@slave.uwe.ac.uk (Operator (Phil/Dylan))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: inetd
Date: 11 Jan 93 03:09:52 GMT
Reply-To: p_copela@csd.uwe.ac.uk
Organization: The New University in the West of England, Bristol (WEB)

as a seperate item,... I'm going to restructure the FAQ to
follow along the lines of the linux-fs-standard such that
/usr/etc/inet will disappear and be replaced with /etc
This is in keeping with a more 'pure' traditional setup
most people who are worried about this should note that you
should be able to avoid confusion in the following manner

applies only to people who have /usr as a seperate FS from /

umount your /usr
mkdir /usr/etc (this only appears on / (trust me))
ln -s /usr/etc/inet /etc (link (symbolic) to /etc)
mount dev/[s/h]d[a/b]x /usr (remount /usr on top of fake directories)

this means that should for any reason /usr NOT mount during
a reboot, the NFS stuff will be able to fuction correctly

Phil
=--=

ps: can we have a switch to /etc instead of /usr/etc/inet for hard
coded binaries? please?
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: brad@bradley.bradley.edu (Bradley E. Smith)
Subject: SUIT
Summary: I have SUIT running
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 06:02:54 GMT

being new to linux (I love it), I have SUIT up and running.  I haven't
tested it much, and need to learn how to make shared libraries
(or are all libraries shared?).  Anyways if there is a demand
I can put it up for ftp or upload it somewhere.  anyone interested?
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From: ss@uucp
Subject: Re: Seyon 1.7
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:09:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.093737.21073@nwnexus.WA.COM> danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes:
>I've just got Seyon-1.7 on my PC and when I installed it, I was
>surprised that the tar placed it in a directory branching off directly
>from the root!  Isn't this highly unusual place to install software
>packages?  Many of us actually reserved only a small partition for root
>and the last things I want to see is getting app packages in there!  Is
>it OK to move that seyon directory under /usr, or somewhere else before
>I compile the whole thing?
>

Seyon, like almost all other source distributions, untars in ./seyon.
If you untar it in / it'll branch off you root directory, if you untar
it in /bin it'll brach off that, and so on for the rest. A reasonable
setup would be to untar all source distributions in /usr/src or
/usr/local/src.

>BTW, the minimal install instructions mention something about running a
>'Configure' first. That should generate the necessary config.h header
>file.  What is this Configure?  The only one I found was a script
>somewhere in the linux src directory, but that had nothing to do with
>Seyon.  So this sounds Chinese to me right off the bat! ;-)
>

I didn't include Configure in 1.7. I deleted all references to it in
the docs, but the one in INSTALL evaded me. INSTALL does tell you to
edit config.h by hand in case of trouble though, so that's what you
should have done. Anyhow, users of linux, 386BSD, SVR4, and SVR3 need
not touch config.h at all, since it's already setup correctly for
their systems. 

>Can anybody enlighten me about this?
>
>.... and I thought linux was "stingy" with documentation! ;-)
>

Hmmm, I think a manual of 700+ lines (formatted) and a FAQ of 750+
lines is rather on the ample side. There is not much I can do though
if people choose not to read them. As a matter of fact I haven't
updated the FAQ since 1.55 precisely because I got the impression that
few people read it (the manual page is always up-to-date though).

At any rate, Johann Miranda has taken over the task of maintaining the
FAQ and he intends to rewrite it, so expect a better and more accurate
FAQ in future versions.

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