From: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Subject: Gay VS God....
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 04:26:20 GMT


Friends,......

	It seems the topic of the day is whether or not homosexuality
is acceptable in the eyes of God, or condemnable by the scriptures.
	There have been made many examples from the bible demonstrating
that homosexuality is hated by god, that the bible specifically 
condemns it as an abberition.
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and intolerant in light of their own ignorance of the subject.
	And what has started as a potentially positive exchange of
differing viewpoints has degenerated into a shouting match.
	Well, I have been keeping score.
	As I see it, it's the Gays 17, the gods, 0.
	It's also late in the 9th inning, the gods are at home,
and the gays are sending out their big gun.
	Namely, me.
	I am gay.  I am also atheist.
	The god teem keeps pointing out the reasons homosexuality
is a "sin" (a concept which I do not acknowledge).  Prime among
these is that god made woman for man and man for woman.
	Also is the assumption so many straight (and straightlaced)
persons hold that sex is the sole motivation for being gay.
	there has also been the suggestion that even if god did
accept homosexuality, he certainly wouldn't accept it except in
monogamous marriage, which he defiantly forbids, and even if he 
didn't, gay people are inherently permiscuious, anyway.
	And on and on, ad nauseum....
	Well, guess what!!
	If god exists (another concept I do not accept), I don't
believe he'd condemn us for our love of one another.
	And be assured, christians, being gay is about love!  Love
that is as intense and romantic as the love in _ANY_ heterosexual
relationship.
	And as in those hertero relationships, sex is one of the
natural expressions and manifestations of that love.
	Of course, I'm sure I'll be reminded at this point that
monogamy has not lent itself to the AIDS virus spreading through
the gay community.  True enough.  But there are hetero folks
out there who are spreading it too..A new report shows that it's
spreading faster among the straight community than it ever did among us.
	About the marriage issue...
	I was married before I found the courage to face society
and come out and be proud of who I am.  Not once but twice!!  The 
result?  Two badly hurt women, two badly hurt children, and an
attempted suicide, by me.
	But this is in the past.  It serves to show that marriage
for the sake of denial does not cut it!
	And after I came out, I had a life partner I would have
loved to have the privilege to have some manner of legal bond with.
When he died 3 years ago (in a car accident, not of AIDS), I was
devastated.  Yet I was not entitled to the courtesy of bereavement
leave from my job, since my relationship which him was not "legal".
	Did I hurt any less than a man who had been widowed after
several years of marriage?  I think not.
	And I have been alone since the day he died.
	Because I am NOT permiscuious.  I just haven't met anyone
whom I have that kind of feelings with.
	Well, your major points have been shot down.
	Bring them on, guys!
	My pitching arm is just warmed up!

					Cheers!
					Kelley L. Miller
					ae642@yfn.ysu.edu

	"...a rose by any other name...would STILL be full of PRICKS!"
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