HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:08:39 GMT

In article <7028@charon.cwi.nl> sander@cwi.nl (Sander Plomp) writes:
>jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc) writes:
>
>>>What does this mean? What were they allegedly being trained in? How to kill
>>>people?
>
>>In a word, yes.  Apparently these cultists have to kill people a certain way
>>in order to make use of the heads / parts in their rituals.
>
>Now it would be nice to have some more information on this, since some
>months ago there was a discussion on cults going around on a.f.u. Or was
>it rec.games.frp? Anyway, the bottom line was that the standard "ritual
>sacrifice of babies" cult was an urban legend without any real evidence of
>ever really occuring.

What about the reference in the Doors' song The Soft Parade to "carrying
babies to the river"

cj "the monk bought lunch" l (This is usenet; this is the best part of usenet,
the part I really like (what'd he say?).)
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: SNUFF FILM AT 11 (Re: Faces of death)
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:38:32 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BsvJvw.818@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc) writes:
> snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:

> Faces of Death has real death scenes in it.  Period.  

Maybe it does have "real" death scenes in it.  I don't think that anyone
doubts that.  Some may be staged as well.  I don't think that anyone doubts
that either.  (OK, maybe *some* of you are doubting Thomases).

>You can take all the cheap shots and flames at me you want, like this one:

>> (Doc appears to have gotten hold of Cindy Kandolf's old keyboard;
>> the SHIFT key has been replaced, but they had to remove the apostrophe
>> key to do it.)

> ..but that doesnt make you right, it just makes you a poor debater who takes
> shots at his opponent rather than arguing the facts. 

Naaa.  If here were really flaming you, you'd know it.  I got a good chuckle
at snopes' reference to Cindy's keyboard.  I'd nearly forgotten.

Chill out.  Have an alkaseltzer and login to Prodigy.


What's say we change the FAQ file to read:

        T. We never saw a snuff film that we didn't like.
        
Then when this subject comes up again, we can refer people to the FAQ and
LET THEM GUESS what it means.

Terry "Certified Corporate Stooge for Prodigy" Wood
-- 
        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
"Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"                        - Lord "John" Warfin
"There can be only one!"                                  - The Highlander
"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
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From: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu (Daniel I. Matt)
Subject: Re: Useful quips
Reply-To: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 07:26:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.165514.771@geovision.gvc.com>, pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin) writes:
>sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>-- 
>Yorn, desh bjorn, der ritt de gitt de gue,
>Orn desh de bjorn desh de umn BORK BORK BORK.

  So what does this say when translated into English? 8^)

>Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com {revcan,uunet}!geovision!pt
>(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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?   Iowa State University   |    I pray the funk will make me freak,          ?
?                           |    If I should die before I waked,              ?
?    INTERNET ADDRESSES:    |    Allow me Lord to rock out naked!             ?
?     dmatt@iastate.edu     |                                                 ?
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From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: Driving tests
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<1992Aug13.165410.22323@midway.uchicago.edu> <mcirvin.713733658@husc8>
	<BsxuH6.MKA@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>
	<1992Aug14.002923.15684@geovision.gvc.com> <chris.714350151@rufus>
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:56:47

Hmm... forgive me if i misunderstood the topic of this, since
i'm just back from Denmark (the font of all Legoness) and i have
more junk backed up here than i care to think about....  

I had some trouble getting my license in Norway, because they
needed proof that i had had a driver's license for two years
already.  My Pennsy license had been replaced just about a year
ago, and it didn't have the date when i'd originally been
issued a license....  

I was issued my license just before my 17th birthday.  They didn't
believe that until i had the papers in hand, since in norway you
can't get one until you're 18.  Once i had that, it was fine.
Pennsylvania is on their list of Places Where It Snows.  No kidding.
If you come from a place which has winters, according to their
official list, and have had a license for two years, you can simply 
trade in your old license against a new after filling out some forms.
If you have had the license for less than two years, or come from
a place where winters are nonexistent (Florida, for instance), you
must take the so-called Phase 2 courses, which include night driving
and driving on icy roads.

ObFactoid:  Norwegian driver's licenses expire on the licensee's
100th birthday.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway

 Gylig til 28.08.2069

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: amlsmith@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Andrew Smith)
Subject: Re: Driving tests
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:08:15 GMT

In article <BsxuH6.MKA@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> dooley@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Kevin Dooley) writes:
>
>So, of course this wasn't GOOD enough to be able to drive in Tennessee
>and they made me take their test just to make sure...  people in Canada
>don't even have paved roads do they?

LOW BLOW. We even have paved roads in Newfoundland. But  ask me if they
can build the bloody things straight?  Oh, Noo! 

At any rate, I have been tod of one test where the driver, who lives
"aroud the bay" (Anywhere away from the <ahm. industrial centres).
S/He drove up to the cop shop. The tester got in and told the new
driver to go to the other end of town and stop. (1/2 mile...maybe 1)
If the tester wanted to be mean, the new driver would be asked to
turn around and drive back.

Andrew
amlsmith@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
From: lane@duphy4.physics.drexel.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Imponderables (Yawn)
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:04:49 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Drexel University Physics

In article <Aug.18.12.46.57.1992.7550@math.rutgers.edu>, cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar) writes:
> dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright) writes:
>
>>   -- Why is yawning contagious?
>
> Here are some guesses:  If yawning is an effort to increase oxygen intake,
> it may be that the air in the room in question is oxygen-depleted,
> affecting everyone at about the same time.  Or, it may be a common
> reaction to something that both people are observing.
>

And yawning is a behavior common to many (if not all) mammals.  I have
seen snakes give a convincing simulation of a yawn, but in fact they
were just re-seating their jaw after a good meal :-)

I tried a little experiment to see if yawns were contagious between
cats and humans.  As far as I could tell from a limited series of
trials, they were not contagious from humans to cats.

I couldn't offhand figure out a way to test for yawn transmission
between cats (lack of suitable controls,etc.).

--

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From: janowsky@math.rutgers.edu (Steven Janowsky)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,nyc.general
Subject: Re: Whither Manhattan? (was Re: Cannibaderm, anyone?)
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:10:33 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <=2fytf=@rpi.edu> kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:

>  Anyone have a good reference for this? Are Governor's, Ellis and Liberty 
> Islands also considered part of Manhattan Borough?

Certainly not Liberty Island since THAT is part of New Jersey!
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: urban folklore?
Date: 17 Aug 1992 19:34:29 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department  In article <1992Aug17.173357.2149@csi.on.ca> tina@csi.on.ca (Tina Klein) writes:
Distribution: na
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

  +Ok - where's the connection that this group has to urban folklore?

Well, it's tenuous at best.  Some folklore gets in once in a while between 
discussions on snuff films, the etymology of "posh", and utterings by 
Churchill and Disraeli (or is that Gladstone).

  +Any Elvis sightings out there?

Sure.  But things haven't been the same since the U.S. Postal Service
killed him.

  +Alligators in the sewage system...

And you thought you had problems....
  
  +I thought that urban folklore meant believing that goldfishes actually 
  +lived through the toilet-flush experience ....

Sure.  Do you believe?
  
  +PS Generic Disclaimer here ...
  +I want to see some folklore ...

I dunno Tina, you seem to be doing pretty good on your own....


Terry "not JUST another Elvis" Chan
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"As to the veracity of my source, this is my GRANDMOTHER you're talking about!"
                                         -- Someone on alt.folklore.urban
From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Screaming Peaches and Terrified Eggs
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:22:49 GMT
Distribution: alt

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>When I was a kid, my mom told me about an experiment performed at 
>Columbia University in which the agonized "scream" of a peach was 
>detected somehow with sensitive instruments as someody bit into it.
...
>Later, when I was in high school, one of my teachers (not of science)
>mentioned an experiment in which eleven of the eggs in a carton were
>connected to electrodes, and a definite electrical pulse was recorded
>as the eggs "freaked" (as he put it) when the twelfth one was cracked
>open.

My version is celery.  I forget what they did to the other celery, but I don't
think it was eating it.  Heard from my mother when I was a little one.

I also heard an interesting thing about when you boil lobsters.  Most of you
will know that you boil lobsters live, i.e. you keep them alive until you're
ready to cook them, then the way you kill them is by boiling.  Apparently when
you put them in the pot there is an audible high-pitched noise.  I've never
heard it, but I haven't had the chance to try to do so subsequent to hearing
this rumour.  However, this noise (so the rumour goes) is not a scream of any
kind, but rather results from the torsion that builds up from uneven expansion
of the shell.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: S n u f f: the proof at last.
Organization: Just put everything on the floor; I can find it.
Date: 16 AUG 92 23:42:58    


In article <Bt3y2D.3pE@world.std.com>, 
  kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes...

>I actually saw a snuff cartoon produced by Hanna-Barbera.

 That's right.  It depicted a real murder drawn deliberately for the sole
 purpose of making a cartoon, and that's good enough for me.

 - snopes

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: tmoore@bnr.ca
Subject: Re: Driving tests
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:40:56 GMT

In In Britain the motorcycle test involves the testee driving around the block
and doing an emergency stop when the tester steps into the road in front of
the motorcycle.  One time the tester was hit ...by a passer by on a motorcycle.
The testee was just coming round the corner of the block!

Incidentally in Britain those learning to drive must display a prominent
sign with a large "L" (for learner).  Thus regular drivers can at least beware
and if that way inclined can be courteous and patient.  The test in Britain
takes 30-45 minutes on city streets.
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:20:58 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Aug14.121124.1395@nntp.nta.no> styri@nta.no writes:
>In article <4730@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, Terry Wood writes:
>>
>> Note that there was no mention of any sex (or drugs or rock-n-roll) so I've
>> never thought about Snuff as being involved with porno.
>
>There's some old movie with a snuff plot. I think it was "teen girl runs
>from home, ends up in porno business. Girl's father looks for his daughter
>all over the place, including a snuff porn movie theatre." Don't remember
>if there was a happy ending. (Guess I turned off the TV.)

I forget the name of it, but it had George C. Scott as the father.

Snuff has pretty much been associated with pornography, and the opponents
of pornography often bring up snuff as an argument against it.  The reason
I'm skeptical of snuff is because the legal scholars who argue most strongly
against pornography, using snuff as polemic against it, have a lot to gain
by an actual demonstration of a snuff film, but the footnotes under snuff
in these books are invariably to other anti-pornography activists complaining
about snuff.

To me, it's pretty much a case of the dog that didn't bark.  There are too
many people that would benefit from snuff being brought to the light
(feminists, political leaders of all stripes looking for a popular issue --
"I'm 100% against snuff, dammit, but what has my opponent done to prevent
the murders of innocent suburban teenagers in South American pornshops?",
tabloid TV shows, district attorneys trying to make names for themselves,
etc.) for it not to have been at least partially exposed, if not had the
cover ripped off of it, if there was such a thing as real snuff films.

What tends to happen is that police break up an illegal videotape copying
ring, announce to the press that they've stopped the importation of horrible
porn and snuff movies, and the press reports it before it turns out to
be clips of Bud Dwyer or Faces of Death II.

ObFact: Columnists are all in a huff lately about the potential legal
        liability of sex, in the wake of the settlement of the Robin
        Williams herpes case, bemoaning how litigious our society has
        become that the lawsuits are moving into the bedroom.  Don't
        buy it.  Lawsuits for the transmission of venereal disease date
        back to the mid-19th century on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean.
-- 
             ......................................................
             ted frank | thf2@midway.uchicago.edu | std disclaimers
             the university of chicago law skool, chicago, illinois
             you can't throw me to the lions -- i'm charlton heston
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:30:34 EDT

In article <BsvJvw.818@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc) writes:
 
>You can take all the cheap shots and flames at me you want
 
May I suggest another afu motto?
 
maurice
  ____________________________________________________________________
  Maurice Forrester  |  mjforres@suvm.bitnet  |  mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: robert@jetsun.weitek.COM (Robert Plamondon)
Subject: Re: Penicillin Priorities
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 03:54:11 GMT

In article <341nbfpc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) 
writes:
>Absolutely. There was an RAF fighter pilot in the Battle of Britain (name
>forgotten, I'm afraid) who's plan was to shoot the Lufwaffe bombers full of
>holes (through the fuselage), rather than shoot them down. He figured the
>sight of all those dead and wounded crewmen when the bombers got back would be
>far more damaging than the simple loss of the bomber & crew...

And here I thought it was due to the RAF fighters having a notorious
lack of firepower, and their training program being equally notorious
for its deficiency in gunnery practice.  And all this time, immensely
skilled fighter pilots were deliberately failing to shoot down enemy
planes, during their country's darkest hour, in order to play an
elaborate psychological game!

You gotta admire these guys.

	-- Robert
-- 
    Robert Plamondon, robert@weitek.COM

"But that was just one of the many times I died!"
    -- Baron Munchausen
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.sf.misc
From: whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Reply-To: whheydt@PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:58:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.022625.16378@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Furthermore, why is this in a.f.u?
>
>Imminent death of the net predicted... film at 11.

Because god is an Urban Myth.

	--Hal
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Analyst, Pacific*Bell        |         --J. Danforth Quayle
510-823-5447                 |    "... kill all the lawyers."
whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM    |         --William Shakespeare
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.electronics
From: jbm@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Jeffrey Mulligan)
Subject: Fun with droplets
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:30:01 GMT

adrian@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (A Johnstone) writes:



>Whilst I'm on the subject (probably this is not the place for it but here goes
>anyway) has anybody else noticed the way droplets of coffee often run around on
>top of the main volume of coffee in a filter machine? I wondered whether this
>was a related effect. The droplets must be in some equilibrium because they can
>exist for up to a couple of seconds before disintegrating.

>                          Adrian

I think this is just the effect of fairly high surface tension
(like mercury droplets).  You also see this with ethylene glycol (antifreeze).

-- 

	Jeff Mulligan (jbm@eos.arc.nasa.gov)
	NASA/Ames Research Ctr., Mail Stop 262-2, Moffett Field CA, 94035
	(415) 604-3745
From: catstyle@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (CatStyle )
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Semen, NOT sailors!
Keywords: A quart?!
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:41:28 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

My best friend claims that a girl from a neighboring high school of his
told all the seniors on the football team that if they won some game she'd
give them all a blow job in the local park.  So they won, she followed up 
on her promise, with some of the guys going back for seconds...

Anyways, she had to go to the emergency room to get her stomach pumped
after becoming quite ill...

Reminds me of a Rod Stewart UL...

CatStyle
jrh@uiuc.edu
From: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Planes, trains 'n' kidnappers...
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:12:53 GMT
Reply-To: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

In article <1992Aug12.080922.7594@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch (Michael Qvortrup) writes:
>I may have mixed up to hi-jack/terror actions here. Do anybody know about
>a RAF-action, possibly abroad, where they were stormed by the German
>border guards?

I can't be sure that it was the Red Army Faction, but a German terrorist group
hijacked a Lufthansa plane and flew it to Mogadishu, Somalia.  A special
anti-terrorist squad of West German border guards flew into Somalia, stormed
the plane, and rescued the passengers.

Would have made a great story if it was not overshadowed by the Entebbe raid
which occurred just before.


-- 
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 -->     David Esan      de@moscom.com  
 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Modem tax back
Organization: Terry (hon.)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:02:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.185508.1795@news.columbia.edu>
lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:

>Why is it that rural (well, sub-urban anyway) cable companies are charging
>less to their subscribers than the equivalent situation in the city?  
>Presumably there is less cable to be run in the city because there is a
>larger concentration of customers, thus less miles of wire per customer
>or equivalent unit.  Also it's a larger customer base in the city, so
>how is that making this "network" any better for anyone.  Or is it just
>that it's easier to rip-off a more concentrated and larger customer base
>for even more money than a smaller operation.

Because suburban town councils know that they'll have to answer to
their neighbors for exhorbitant rates, and actually care about service
when they award their franchises.

ObUL: There's an ai program posting to the net, and it has passed the
Turing test: people are flaming it just like it was real.
Unfortunately, it tries to get its view of the world from the net, and
hence has a lot of trouble with humor.

Seth "any relation between this ai program and the poster who sent me
an email message saying 'fuck off' is purely coincidental (in the
mathematical sense)" Breidbart		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: Chelsea Clinton Fan Club
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:47:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug7.201057.25998@pixel.kodak.com>, polvino@ssd.kodak.com (Joe Polvino) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug6.193344.6028@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
|> >In article <1992Jul23.134104.14303@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> kristyp@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kristy Patterson) writes:
|> >
|> >[discussion of the fashion style of the presidential candidate's
|> >family...]
|> >
|> >>Tipper looked huge in her dress.
|> 
|> Excuse me, but what kind of a name is "Tipper?"  Anything like Moon Unit or
|> Dweezil???? ;-)
 
 It's a Boomer name. I think that "Tipper" is Boomer for "puts labels on 
records". 
 
 Actually, I remember reading that her real name is something extra-mundane
like Mary Alice or Alice Mary. I'm sure that "Tipper" is not the name on her
birth certificate.
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