HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: drakop@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (John Andrew Drakopoulos)
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink III
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:41:24 GMT

In article <#wrj1q=.shannah@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
> ...
>
>Apparently, this person thinks I'm a liar, because I stated in my postings
>that anyone who wanted to attend is welcome, but then won't send them the
>information on exactly where the events are without an RSVP.  (I did send
>the date/time/city/general info.)
>
>  ...
>
>I feel that the person who complained is trying to harrass and 
>intimidate me, and I have refused to participate in that by buckling
>under and sending the details.  They have threatened to post our email
>conversation to the net.
>
>  ...

In any place, at any time, there are people that do nothing but
#$@!%$@@  themselves and others.
They are ignoramuses that do not deserve even our slightest attention.
Well, sometimes they were too irritating and received a bit of 
'attention'; --kinda very fast-moving 'attention'.

John.


PS. It's got to move either too slow or ... too fast.
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink Saturday night party...
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:32:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher

asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky) writes:
] Oh, goody, I can be the first to post what a great party Teri
] threw on Saturday night.  

And I get to be the second - and second your post!

] Thanks, and to all the totally cool people I met there -- hope
] to see you again soon.

I second this also - it was great meeting new people and people 
whose names I only knew from the net, and seeing people I 
haven't seen for several months...

Diana
From: Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink Saturday night party...
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:35:15 GMT
Reply-To: Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer)
Distribution: ba

In article <1992Apr13.001237.6410@clarinet.com> funnyr@clarinet.com (Funny Guy)  
writes:
> You mean it was this week?  I never got a response on my mail asking when and
> where it was, so I didn't see you folks.

I missed it too.  Never got any directions.  Oh well, I guess that's what I  
deserve for not RSVPing until the week before.
--
                             E-Mail (NeXTmail accepted): Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com
                    "Character is what you are in the dark." -Buckaroo Banzai
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men." -Willy Wonka
From: stateman@hplred.HP.COM (Howard Stateman)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink Saturday night party...
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:35:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplred.1000023
Organization: State Home for the Mildly Amusing

Heck, I didn't RSVP till Friday morning, and Teri sent me directions in
time for me to get to the party.

Thanks Teri!

I'll third the previous posts -- great party. The highlight for me was Asya
saying "hi" to me. ;-)

I didn't get there till about 10, and there was still more food (especially
deserts) than could be consumed by a housefull of net.beings in a single
evening. Or week, for that matter. What did you do with all those goodies
after the party, Teri?


......................................................................
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. howeird@hpl.HP.COM         | At 19 I discovered it was also a tongue..  
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From: rdh@Veritas.COM (Robert Hartman)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink III vs. the complainer
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:57:37 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: VERITAS Software

In article <#wrj1q=.shannah@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
> ... I have been asking folks for RSVPs.  Upon receipt of RSVPs,
>I have been sending the details about the events.
>
>Of all the people who have ... inquired in any way about the
>events, one person has complained about this policy. ...
>
>I feel that the person who complained is trying to harrass and 
>intimidate me, and I have refused to participate in that by buckling
>under and sending the details.  They have threatened to post our email
>conversation to the net.
>
>All I can say is that this sort of thing is precisely why *I* don't
>hold events more often, and others have told me that this is why they
>don't host events, either. ...  The above issue is just one
>of a number of similar things that have come up for this event alone.
>
>Frankly, the price is just getting too high. ...
>
>It's been a long time since I've hosted one of these "posted to the
>net" events, and given the treatment I've received, I can assure all
>who read this, it will be a long long time before I do it again.

I hadn't planned on coming to the party because I live rather far from
the area.  However, I've been following the preparations.  It sounds like
an elaborate and fun bash!

Teri, I want to congratulate you an putting it all together.

The person who is complaining obviously hasn't learned that one's welcome
in _any_ social occasion is conditional upon one's _behavior._  Although
anyone might be invited initially, if someone misbehaves by abusing the
host, that person's invitation can certainly be rescinded.

If you asking for a cover charge, I'm sure that the person would understand
about _that._   Anyone's welcome to come, _provided_they_buy_a_ticket._

Seems to me that an RSVP is a pretty cheap ticket.  If you don't want to pay
the price of admission, you are welcome to stay out.

If this person does have the temerity to post your e-mail to the net, it will
only identify him/her and make her/him look stupid.  At this point I don't
care how forceful/nasty you got with him/her.  Since the person won't RSVP,
she/he can stay the hell out and let other people, including you Teri, enjoy
themselves in peace.

When planning future net.parties, it might be a good idea to hire a net.bouncer!

-r
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink Saturday night party...
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:14:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: overload.1992Apr14.031437.23565
Reply-To: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory

In article <qkxj!0m.douglas@netcom.com> douglas@netcom.com (Doug - MIS x7889) writes:
>I missed it as well.  I emailed the host(ess?) once and posted on the net
>twice asking about it, even teamed up with someone else that had asked about
>it agreeing to let eachother know if either heard anything -- we didn't.

I saw your post on the net, but I didn't think it was my place to tell
you where someone else lived, when you didn't make a timely request to
be included on the mailing list.

>Hopefully in the future if the net.gathering is truely net.public, there
>could be some type of announcements like the ones that Marvin used to 
>circulate.  No way you could miss those!  :-)

I don't understand how you could miss these.  I saw lots of them.  I
RSVP'ed to one, and I got the details in the mail after I confirmed I'd
be attending the Sat night party.

It may be truly net.public, but I wouldn't post my home address to the
net no matter how public I wanted the event to be, there has to be some
control over how many people come into my home.  As far as I know, no
one who RSVP'ed early enough got excluded, except maybe if they lost
the directions.
-- 
"In nature there are no rewards or punishments, only consequences"

Asya Kamsky	      e-mail: asya@ux5.lbl.gov                   Go Red Sox
"In order to command you must first learn to submit" - chinese fortune cookie
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: tkw@leland.Stanford.EDU (Todd Whitehurst)
Subject: Friday Happy Hours near Stanford
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 17:58:24 GMT

Where are any good Friday afternoon happy hours near Stanford?  Some of
us graduate students here are going to venture off-campus in search
of cheap drinks and other assorted fun this Friday, and we would
appreciate any suggestions.  (We are planning to go to El Torito since
they serve a lot of free food, but we don't know if there are
interesting women there.)

Thanks in advance for your suggestions,
-Todd-
From: jw@skeew.Eng.Sun.COM (John Weeks)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Apres Ski Club
Keywords: singles ski club
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:24:43 GMT
Reply-To: jw@skeew.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: skeew


   ##############################
           Apres Ski Club 
   ##############################

   Apres (Apray: French for after) Ski Club is
an activities oriented singles club in the
South Bay area.

   Activites during the coming months include
Hikes, Board Game Nights, Potlucks, Paintballing,
River Rafting, Spring Skiing, Bungee Jumping,
Movie Nights, Dinners at local restaurants, 
TGIF Parties, and much, much, more.  Our activities
calendars are packed with activities for all ages
21 and over.

   If you are interested in finding out more mail
me directly:

   John Weeks   (jw@eng.sun.com)
From: jbryan@oracle.com (John Bryan)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Meet me at the bar
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:41:19 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA


Hi,

After seeing all this net traffic about clubs/bars, I thought I'd tell
you all about a club that I DJ at on Saturday nights in Palo Alto.
The name of the club is in-U-N-do, and it is located at 340 University
Ave in downtown Palo Alto (Liddicoat's).  Last weekend was our first
weekend and it looked promising.  We play a mix of Reggae, Soca,
Hip-Hop and House music (exact proportions of each determined by crowd
enthusiasm!). There is a cover charge of $5, but passes are available
for a discount of $2 (call 415-369-3279 for more info or passes).
From 11pm to midnight, selected canned beers and glasses of house wine
(white zinfandel) are only $1!  Dress code is casual (not sloppy!),
and most people seemed to have a good time last week. If the people
last week are any indication, it should be a pretty enjoyable place to
spend an evening.    

This week the theme is 'Spring Fever,' so if your psyched that spring
is finally here, come on down and celebrate at in-U-N-do.  Hope to see
you there!

Irie.

JB.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~  John Harold Bryan, Jr.                                                     ~
~  Oracle Order Entry Development Team                                        ~
~  300 Oracle Parkway,  Box 659305              			      ~
From: marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:44:06 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: user of Netcom Public Access Unix, SF Bay Area

In article <1992Apr16.085647.11214@clarinet.com> funnyr@clarinet.com (Funny Guy) writes:
>marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
> >On June 19, 1992, Batman II, entitled Batman Returns will premier around
> >the country. Lines will be long and media coverage will be extensive. Ticket
> >prices in the Bay Area will be $7.00 for an evening show.
>
>And $3.75 in quantity 1 for a Matinee, if Star Trek was an example.
>Hey, Marvin, I think what you're doing is great, and I don't mind if you
>make a small profit on it -- you have to work to do this, so more power
>too you.    I just think it's misleading to quote this figure to make your
>$6 seem like a bargain.    I'll send in my order, though.


I wouldn't call it misleading, I'd call it advertising  :-)

Seriously, I do put ALOT of work into my events not to mention my entire 
heart and soul. As anyone who's ever attended any event of mine can tell
you, they're well-coordinated and just plain fun. Besides the enormous amount
of work and middle-of-the-night phonecalls, there's also risk and
anxiety involved. For these movie events, I need to *rent* the theater...
in advance...I also need to guarantee a rather large number of tickets.
For Star Trek, this number was 250. For Batman, it's 400. I don't know
about anyone else, but guaranteeing that I can get 400 people to do anything
is a little scary for me.

I'm also putting my name into this and I have big dreams of eventually 
starting a business for singles that the world has never seen
before. I actually already have the business but lack the full courage and
capital needed to turn it into the full-blown reality I conceive.

So, if paying an extra dollar or two for 2 hours of pure, hasslefree fun
angers you (generic), please let me know and don't attend. I'd rather 
cater to people who have no hesitancy about paying a small reimbursement
for my efforts than to people who pay and then continually complain 
about how I'm making a profit.


                -marvin


-- 
Marvin Raab                                  
marv@netcom.com                              Mountain View, CA 94040
apple.com!netcom.com!marv                    415-961-6501 (h)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: Post-BOINK!
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 06:17:01 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez
Distribution: ba

In article <1992Apr7.060857.21177@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>Remember:  never name your food.  It's hard to eat something you're
>on a first name basis with.

Vegetarians eat vegetables.  I'm a humanitarian.....
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Mothers are inventors by necessity
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Dimensions (club review)
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:35:01 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr13.231245.6555@island.COM> don@island.COM (Don Hermes) writes:
|My biggest objection to 'local' or 'townie' bars is that they seem to
|be particularly choked with smoke.

And in "Clubs" the atmosphere is particulary choked with "Georgio", "Opium",
"English Leather", and hairspray...

-- 
+=============================================================================+
| John Fereira                Al Bundy for President          
| johnf@auspex.com         "He's as good as the next guy"                     |
+=============================================================================+
From: rlee@guest.ads.com (Richard Lee)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink Saturday night party...
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:15:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: guest.RLEE.92Apr12181512
Distribution: ba
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mountain View, CA 94043, +1 (415)
	960-7300

In article <1992Apr12.083347.6217@overload.lbl.gov> asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky) writes:

|Oh, goody, I can be the first to post what a great party Teri threw on
|Saturday night.

Second the motion.

The Thai dinner was great, too.  At our table, at least, the dessert was
not a smashing success, but everything else was absolutely delicious.
(Anybody know what that milk curry dish is called?)

My hat's off to you, Teri, and thanks.
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92 Post #1
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:11:40 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:

}So let's ask ourselves: given the choice do we prefer to have fewer events to
}choose from, or to be assured that events aren't being organized at a profit?

For me, this whole "tempest" boils down to a question of honesty and
being above board.  If the organizer of an event fully expects to realize
a profit from it, just say so up front.  That way, anyone who might have
a problem with that can make an informed decision.  

It's a question of expectations.  If I buy something from a store, I
fully expect the store to make a profit from it.  But in an arena such
as ba.singles, I think it's fair to assume that many if not most people
kind of expect that organizers of events do so out of the goodness of
their hearts.  If, in addition to that goodness, they also expect to
profit monetarily, they should just indicate that, and then there won't
be any questions later.

--James Preston

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: funnyr@clarinet.com (Funny Guy)
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:56:47 GMT

marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
 >On June 19, 1992, Batman II, entitled Batman Returns will premier around
 >the country. Lines will be long and media coverage will be extensive. Ticket
 >prices in the Bay Area will be $7.00 for an evening show.

And $3.75 in quantity 1 for a Matinee, if Star Trek was an example.
Hey, Marvin, I think what you're doing is great, and I don't mind if you
make a small profit on it -- you have to work to do this, so more power
too you.    I just think it's misleading to quote this figure to make your
$6 seem like a bargain.    I'll send in my order, though.
From: jw@skeew.Eng.Sun.COM (John Weeks)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: White Water Rafting
Keywords: white water raft
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:15:44 GMT
Reply-To: jw@skeew.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: skeew


   ####################################
        White Water River Rafting
   ####################################

   Any one who is interested in going white 
water rafting this summer, send me some email
and I will put you on an alias of white water
trips that we are scheduling through out the
summer.

   For those who really want to get out there
and get in the water now.  Our first trip will 
be down the Yuba River, June 14.  
   The North Fork of the Yuba is three hours from
the bay area.  Class 4 rapids, enough to get your
heart beating real fast.
   The Cost is $90, we will need a $45 deposit ASAP.
We will be camping Saturday night at the river.
Possible potluck dinner if there is enough interest. 
We will have breakfast at the camp site and car pool
to the river put in.

  Contact: John Weeks (jw@eng.sun.com)
           Home # 408-730-5879
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: don@island.COM (Don Hermes)
Subject: Re: Dimensions (club review)
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:12:45 GMT

In article <6vwjjka.saf@netcom.com> saf@netcom.com (Steve A. Feinstein) writes:
>In article <+q9hgtlgaryd@netcom.com> garyd@netcom.com (Gary Dietz) writes:
>>>johnf@auspex.com 's description of neghborhood bars VS the club attitude
>>>in response to my response to the Dimensions review
>>
>>Right on dude!  Neighbor hood bars, real people, sports that people can
>>pariticapte and enjoy while drinking (w/o fighting over a quarter for
>>a pool table), women and men you can meet and get social with. . . 
>>That's a BAR.  You are right, not a club.
>>
>>If only some of the spandex clad lycra-monsters would peel their attitude and
>>their overdone hair (male AND femnale) and come to a 'local' or 'townie' bar,
>>they might meet some really fine people.  And hey, even if they don't get 
>>'lucky' they might enjoy themselves!
>>--

My biggest objection to 'local' or 'townie' bars is that they seem to
be particularly choked with smoke.

don
don@island.com
From: bruce@StarConn.com (Bruce Michael Roberts)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: boink?
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:39:39 GMT
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133

What is a boink party?
The only boink I've heard about is listening to these two bizarre DJs-
Lamount and Tanille- on KSJO.
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:04:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: ads.1992Apr15.180446.5617
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <a9yjsbd.marv@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>
>On December 7, 1991, 450 people (90% from the net) viewed a private screening 
>of Star Trek VI. The response was incredible and everyone loved it. The
>only drawback: I had more requests than tickets.
>
>Let's try this again!

One question, Marvin:  How much money do you expect to make off the
_Batman II_ outing?

Didn't you net something like $600 from _Star Trek VI_?

Just curious.

Charleen

--
A funeral procession was passing the municipal golf course.  One golfer
removed his hat, placed it over his heart and bowed his head.  One of
the other golfers commented how thoughtful that was.  The guy replied,
"It's the least I could do.  After all, we were married for almost 40 years."
From: jmw@brahms.amd.com (Mike Wincn)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink Saturday night party...
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:16:47 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices; Sunnyvale, CA

In article <1992Apr14.031437.23565@overload.lbl.gov> asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky) writes:
[...]
>It may be truly net.public, but I wouldn't post my home address to the
>net no matter how public I wanted the event to be... 

Awww you're no fun at all... 

:-) <--- for the miserably clueless 
--
John M. Wincn 	jmw@brahms.amd.com  
(408) 987-2337  DISCLAIMER:  I speak for myself unless noted otherwise.
From: jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:23:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.sknomINN7hq
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: forney.berkeley.edu

In article <y+1j5g-.greg@netcom.com> greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
>So let's ask ourselves: given the choice do we prefer to have fewer events to
>choose from, or to be assured that events aren't being organized at a profit?

I don't object to Marvin's current use of the net, but once he's got
his business off the ground, I expect him to not use ba.singles at
all as an advertising medium.  Making a small amount of money in a
large effort where he could equally well lose money is one thing, but
once it's a full-time business the rules change, I think.  For example,
ba.market.* is fine for someone selling their car, but it would be
unacceptable for a professional auto broker to use it, IMHO.



--
Joe Buck	jbuck@ohm.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: ba.singles,soc.singles
From: vijay@jessica.Stanford.EDU (vijay mehrotra)
Subject: Relaxiboink -- HELP!
Reply-To: vijay@jessica.Stanford.EDU (vijay mehrotra)
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 20:39:17 GMT

I managed to somehow delete all of the information that Teri Miller
sent me about the events for Saturday and Sunday (it was a hellish week...).

If some kind soul reading this could send me a note supplying the information,
that would be much appreciated!!

Vijay
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