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Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Tsomes
From: verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:27:30 EST
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In article <C0I0n4.625@fiu.edu> kilman2y@fiu.edu (Yevgeny Kilman) writes:

>Ia, bratczi, tashus' ot vashego pristrstia ko vremenam czaria-batushki i
>ego doblestnim voiskam. Hochu napomnit', chto oficzerstvo bilo udelom 
>iskluchitelno dvorianstva. Prostomu mujiku oficzerstvo davalos' geroistvom
>i dolgimi godami slujbi. Uchitivaia chto vseh rodovih dvorian bol'sheviki
>libo povesili libo rasstreliali, sredi nas dvorianskih naslednikov net.

	Vot i vriosh': moi pra-praded byl Tambovskii general-gubernator.
	A takikh kak ty Yebgenii on i na porog ne pustil by, ne
	to chtoby prerekat'sya kak ya. Srazu by vysek na konyushne,
	tol'ko b unyukhal tvoyu efreitorskuyu mordu svoim
	dvoranskim nosom. Sdokhni, mudak.

>Mi s vami veroiatnie vsego nasledniki prachek, vodonosov, selian, i melkih
>kupchishek. 

	Popal pal'tsem v zad. Moi evreiskii praded (po materi)
	byl uchitel' matematiki, a praprapraded po otsu byl
	millioner iz Odessy. Odessu asfal'tom zamostil
	v poryadke chastnoi blagotvoritel'nosti.
	A takikh kak ty on nazyval tsomes.

>Tak chto, "gospoda pochtennie oficeri", let sto nazad ne videt'
>bi vam etogo leitenestva kak svoih ushei, po tomu kak voennuiu kafedru
>vam za geroistvo bi ne zaschitali. Blagodarite za svoe leitenastvo 
>dedushku Lenina.
	
	Uzh kak ne blagodarit' dedushku Lenina i papochku
	Stalina chto 50 millionov takikh kak ty ukokoshili.
	Zhalko ne vsekh. Nichego, eto eshcho vperedi.
	Revolyutsiya prodolzhaetsya, kak bratushka
	Grobachiov lyubil govorit'. Sdokhni po-khoroshemu, 
	skotina, poka po-chelovecheski razgovarivayu. 
	Sdokhni. Ty nam ne nuzhen.

	Ciao.
From: markg@engrg.uwo.ca (Mark Gagnon)
Subject: Sites in Moscow?
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:44:22 GMT

More curiosity than anything else: I know there's a e-mail connection
to St.Petersburg; is there one to Moscow yet? (Publicly accessible, that
is...)

Thanks in advance...

-- 
Mark Gagnon (markg@prism.engrg.uwo.ca)  University of Western Ontario
=====================================================================
              Great Wits are sure to Madness near ally's 
              And thin Partitions do their Bounds divide 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: ayr@gtech.com (Aleksey Y. Romanov)
Subject: Sun & Russia
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:16:01 GMT


Are there still any restriction on the export of Sun equipment to Russia ?


Thank you
From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes
Date: 7 Jan 93 12:52:01 EST
Organization: Midwest Rat's Hole

In article <1993Jan7.170400.22715@ramon.bgu.ac.il>, ioffe@ivory.bgu.ac.il (Ioffe Nicolay) writes:
> 
> Vy uvazhaemyj g-n/tov. Martynov oshiblis'. Uzh kogo-kogo, a sebja ja ni k
> russkoj ni k russkojazychnoj intelligencii ne prichisljaju. B-g miloval.
                                                              ~~~~~~~~~~~
Skoree "Bogom zabytyj"

> 
> I naschet "zhopy". Hm, tov. Martynov, ne byli li vy sluchajno dissidentom.
> ja sebja k sionistam ne otnoshu, no vy-to nesomnenno v Sovke po vsem kuhnjam
> vseh svoih znakomyh(a na ulitse slobo bylo, ved' starshina, imenno!) zvonili,
> kak vy , da na istoricheskij rodine, da my, da ja, da isr. armija, da Moshe
> Dajan etc. Vsem znakomy eti razgovorgiy. I vy takim byli. Ne skryvajte. No vy,
> kak starshina VV, chitaete tol'ko 2 knigi - Kratkij Kurs i Isbrannye
> proizvedenia V.V.Lenina. Imenno ottuda vy i vzjali opredelenie intelligencii.
> I soglasno emu vy bez somnenij javljaetes' ne tol'ko predstavitelem sego tipa
> ljudej, no i zerkalom.
> 
> I poslednee. Vy ved' byli dissidentom. vas tjanulo na rodinu - v zhopu kak vy
> skazali. I eto eshe raz svidetel'stvyet, chto vy takoe.

Nu chego pristal k cheloveku ? Nu pereputal chelovek
samolet. Khotel na rodinu, a priletel v sranyj Stanton. Byvaet...
A to tut odin chelovek khotel v sranyj Ohio priletet' da
pereputal samolet, ponimaesh, i uletel na rodinu. Tak
teper' enta rodina ego nikak otpuskat' ne khochet... Vot
zhe beda s etimi samoletami...

> 
> S zatknutym ot voni nosom, Nick.

  Cherez sraku dyshish chto-li ?

Serega
From: burshtey@polka.seas.upenn.edu (Alexander Burshteyn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Russian cartoons on Bravo
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:43:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Has anyone recently been able to watch Russian cartoons on the Bravo cable
channel ("Yego zhena -- kuritsa," etc.)? They are usually shown between the
movies to fill in the time gaps (when, say, 2 hours are allotted for an 1h.40m.
movie).
If you did see them, what do you think about them?

Alex Burshteyn.
burshtey@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

P.S. I saw them, and, boy, are they weird! (Of course, this is not all I think
about them.)
P.P.S. In Phila, Bravo is considered a basic cable channel, but in other places
it may be a premium channel, so I understand that few people had a chance to
watch these cartoons.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Subject: StPbrg makes Russian publishing history
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:50:07 GMT

StPetersburg makes Russian book publishing history. There is published
the first Russian telephone catalogue! The Yellow Pages of StPbrg.
The work is done with the aid and know -how from Finland.

Russia can make missiles, nuclear bombs, rackets, canons,tanks,satellites...
but for making a telephone catalogue is needed help from Finland.
It tells something about the priorities in these two countries.

I have a copy of Yellow Pages of StPrg, if someone needs addressess
and telephone numbers of the authorities and companies I can help those.
A telephone catalogue of private telephone numbers is not available.
regards,
jarmo ryyti
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: aps@sonia.math.ucla.edu (Alexei Stolboushkin)
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Soviet (was Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes)
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:43:29 GMT

In article <93011.100017BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> <BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>To make it short. I think we are going through national catastrophe
>(everybody agrees?)...
>
>-Boris
>

I would put it this way: We are going OUT of the national catastrophe.

That's partially true that the main reason we started going is
the bad shape of the economy (not enough resourses to conduct
socialistic experiments anymore), however, it is also true that
soc.culture.soviet (not the newsgroup!) created the general
atmosphere which allowed us to start.

Now, the Russian culture of the last century, if you believe
in its influence, should be condemned for creating the general
atmosphere of black hundred in the beginning of the century,
and then for Great October Socialist Revolution, for concentration
camps, etc.

How about that?

--Alexei
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: phvas@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Vlad Soukhanovsky)
Subject: >>>Zadachka: pro sifilitika
Summary: -
Keywords: sifilitik gandony
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 02:41:09 GMT

Greg Landsberg writes:

>  (1) Wear n   condoms while fucking #1
>  (2) Wear n-1 condoms while fucking #2  

Did you ever tried that - to wear n condoms at once? Just curious.
...
>  (n) Wear 1   condom  while fucking #n   

Sounds better.

>  Greg Landsberg@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu      


-- 
Vlad Soukhanovsky                            ,-_|\
phvas@marlin.jcu.edu.au                     /     \
see finger information for                  \_,-._/
further details                                  v
From: covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com (Ivan Covdy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: digest of relcom.humor
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:37:46 GMT
Distribution: soc

in article <ALEXEEV.93Jan4195915@solitude.math.utah.edu>, alexeev@math.utah.edu (Valery A. Alexeev) says:
# 
#>Zagadka !!!
#>
#>  I udobno i krasivo
#>  Prosto lyubo posmotret'
#>  YAb sama ego nosila
#>  Tol'ko ne na chto nadet'

Ustarelo! Uzhe nachali delat' zhenskie preservativy, po krajnej mere, 
v Amerike.

# =========================================
#     V detskom sadu CHP: deti stali netsenzurno vyrazhat'sya. Zaveduyushchaya poshla
#     zhalovat'sya v sosednyuyu voinskuyu chast', otkuda prisylali dvoikh soldat
#     chinit' elektrichestvo. Leytenant vyzyvaet ikh k sebe:
#    - Nikak net, tovarishch leytenant, nichego sebe takogo ne pozvolyali. Ryadovoy
#      Sidorov payal provoda, a ya derzhal vnizu stremyanku. Potom olovo stalo
#      kapat' mne na golovu.
#    - Nu i ty ?
#    - Nu i ya govoryu: " Ryadovoy Sidorov, razve vy ne vidite, chto vashemu to-
#      varishchu na lob kapayut kapli rasplavlennogo metalla?"

Nado zhe, tak vzjat' i oposhlit' klassicheskij anekdot pro santehnikov:
"Vasja, ty ne prav" (i ty, Valera, tozhe!).

Voobshche-to, bol'shaja chast' iz etih anekdotov - starje, k tomu zhe,
ne ochen' interesnoje.

Kak naschet takogo anekdotika:

Vo Frantsii provodilsja konkurs na to, kak luchshe skazat' devushke, 
s kotoroj ty sidish' v restorane, o tom, chto tebe nado vyjti v sortir 
po nuzhde. Pobeditelem priznan sledujushchij variant:

- A sejchas, madmauzel', ja dolzhen pokinut' vas na paru minut daby
pomoch' moemu drugu, s kotorym ja vas poznakomlju pozzhe.

-- 
  Ivan Covdy, covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com, METAPHOR Inc.,  CA,  USA
 *** People are looking for a Mind somewhere in the Universe,      ***
 *** because on the Earth they've been finding only the Stupidity. ***
From: LODEESENJ@adminb.rferl.org (Username was LODEESEN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Soviet (was Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant
              jokes)
Date: 13 Jan 93 05:34:14 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

Much that Boris said about America and American education is accurate.  One
point which may not be quite so apparent to an immigrant as to someone brought
up in the culture(s) of America is the role of the immigrant in education, the
frequency with which the members of the latest nationality to come in
substantial numbers and/or difficult circumstances rise to the heights of
achievement in American education, pushing aside the scions of the established
families.  Well, the phenomenon is almost as old as the country.  Perhaps more
than in most countries, formal education is not everything.  It is for the
immigrant what sports are for some members of the inner city ghettoes, the
best chance to get ahead by working very hard.  But life in America, particu-
larly for the young, is often too sweet for the pursuit of education to be
a very attractive alternative day in and day out.  It is a measurable phenomenon
that academic performance and economic advance changes more by the generation
of the individual (number of generations the family has been in America) than
it does by the nationality.  Those of you who have limited success in this
country in this your first generation here have every reason to assume that your
children will outperform you and their children will then fall behind, spreading
out throughout the normal performance curve of the bulk of the American
population.  Those of you who have outstanding success and are already well
acclimated by the time your children are at the age for serious study can
anticipate that they will not match your achievements in education or in the
advancement of the economic status of their family.  Despite numerous
exceptions, the trends have been so consistently observed for so long that it
seems improbable that it will be different for this immigration.  Of course,
we're talking about formal education and economically measurable success.  It
is those things rather than learning how to live well and obtaining the
resources with which to do so which seem to slip away from the immigration's
children.  Love them anyway.
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:33:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan11.163809.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:

>Tak chto vy tam ne ochen', a to ved' mozhno i puliu v spinu poluchit' ot 
>nashego brata. 

 Ja vse-taki nadejus', chto strelajt' v spinu eto ne traditsija 
 Natl. Guards, a skoree privychka hrabretsa Martynova.

>Michael Martynov.

 S.B.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: vpravosu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Vladimir V Pravosudov)
Subject: Re: Plagiarizer (Was: Boris Grebenshchikov)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:50:51 GMT

 Dear Misha, Sorry, I'm not going to argue about each point as you did.
I want to add, though, that I've never read anything more "grey" and
self-pleased posting and I've never met a men who is as self-confident as you
while being absolutely sure that every word you say is the only truth on the
Earth. Frankly, from what I read here, you are a hell of a bad expert in rock
music, and those gossips that you came up with are not necessarily true.
It's funny to hear how you distort facts by saying that good music is no music
or no tune. By the way, Roger Waters has written quite a few very fine tunes.
It all comes to terms what should we consider to be a tune. I think that you
are wrong nearly in  all your points. What I see is that you simply don't get
it, do you?, what many of mentioned by you groups have tried to convey by
their music. Well, as we say: not everybody is given or something like that.
Sorry, I should not have been that rude, I just totally disagree with you.
Cheers, Vladimir
From: pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Soviet space disaster?
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:10:13 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <01GTE8Y722SA9FN7MH@DCVAXD.RFERL.ORG>, LODEESENJ@adminb.rferl.org (Username was LODEESEN) writes:

>  At the time of his death, I was a young diplomat at the American Embassy in
>Moscow and the version of his death given to me in greatest detail included
>both accurate information not at that time publicly available but easily
>verified AND the claim that his last words were to curse the Soviet Union.
>Disinformation?  Revelation?  Guesswork.

Komarov was killed due to parachute failure. His widow told me that he had
a bad feeling about the flight (he was among of the designers of the Soyuz
series , and that was the _first_ manned flight of Soyuz), but not about
some particular malfunction. Also it is true that the last words of Komarov
were invectives. After he realized that the parachute didn't work, in a short
time before his ship disintegrated, he made it clear that he was meeting
death with courage. "When Death embraced him, he spat in her face." Whether
anything in particular was said about the SU... Who cares?

In any case, he was a _very_ nice man. And his widow never remarried.

-- 
---
Thus spake Kalmoth the Dreaded, Bane of the Forests of Gnoy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: levitt@flamingo.stanford.edu (Tod Levitt)
Subject: Moscow House Swap
Originator: levitt@bittern.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Robotics Department, Stanford University, Ca. USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:55:03 GMT


Professional couple seek furnished Bay Area house to live in from late
February to mid May 1993 (exact dates are negotiable) in exchange for
living in their beautiful, western-style, fully modernized condominium
in Moscow, Russia. The fully furnished condo includes all amenities
including washer/dryer, microwave, etc. as well as two bedrooms,
office, formal dining and two full baths. Interpreters, housecleaning,
servants, and drivers w/ car available for small fees (e.g. $5(US)/day).

This is a unique opportunity for an extremely cost-effective and
luxurious stay in exciting, evolving Russia! 

Please contact Larry Ryckman directly by phone through a U.S. hook-up
out of New York (you pay only cost of connection to New York) 
at 212-621-7916 or 212-621-7917 






Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Sun & Russia
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:17:10 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Midwest Rat's Hole

In article <1222@racerx.bridge.COM>, ken@racerx.bridge.COM (Ken Hardy) writes:
> In article <C0Cyvs.8GC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmaggs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter B. Maggs) writes:
> +ayr@gtech.com (Aleksey Y. Romanov) writes:
> +>Are there still any restriction on the export of Sun equipment to Russia ?
> ....
> +All computers more powerful than a 486/33 require a "validated
> +export license."  The Solaris operatine license you have to show
> +who sill be using the computer for what -- e.g. for cancer research,
> 
> 
> I just saw a post to comp.sys.sun.admin (I think) from someone in
> Moscow asking for help in getting a Sun utility configured properly.
> Don't remember the organization.

There are Spark IPC machines in Space Research Institute
in Moscow. Even this sh*t they've got with great effort.

Serega
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From: mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Bilingualism - a good cause!
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:49:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

In article <1993Jan6.085712.14512@cs.chalmers.se> tammet@cs.chalmers.se (Tanel Tammet) writes:
>In my opinion one of the primary tasks of Estonia is to minimize
>the economic, cultural and political ties to Russian speaking
>Imperium. Of course, this may lead to some immediate economic
>losses (or maybe not?), but I consider the harm coming from
>strong connections to Russia greater than the good. For example,
>economic ties with Russia do export corruption and crime from
>Russia to Estonia in a very noticeable degree. The trade with
>metals is one example. Sure, I am against any prohibition of
>trade with anybody: I just point out that trade with Russia
>has specific bad points when compared to trade with other countries.
>
For whatever reasons there are large numbers of people in
Estonia whose first language is Russian just as there  are lage
numbers of people in England, particularly in inner London
where I live, whose first language is not English but one of
the Asian languages. Last time I went to vote there were voting
instructions in nine different languages.

The right to use one's own language and not to be discriminated
against or placed at a disadvantage because of one's langauge
is a fundamental part of liberalism. If Estonia cannot
understand this, it is a sign that far from escaping from the
Russian Imperium, its thinking is stlil tied up with all the
nasty illiberal dictatorial human-right-abusing ways which were
assocaited with that imperium, and that it does not have the right
to be treated as an equal by those more civilized nations in
western Europe who understand liberalism, but rather must be
treated with suspicion as another potential nasty nationalistic
racialist state.

Matthew Huntbach
From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Ones again about "Sov.Emigre.Rest.Jokes"
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:36:44 EST
Organization: Midwest Rat's Hole

In article <1993Jan11.164047.1@jaguar.uofs.edu>, mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
> Ty, Vizniuk, voobshche molchi.  Ot tebia umnogo slova ne dozhdeshsia,
> a kak shishki, tak na nas oboikh.
> 
> Michael Martynov.

 , Michael,     - , 
 ?  Just curious..


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: seltzer@ics.enet.dec.com (Richard Seltzer)
Subject: translation problem
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:31:20 GMT

Thank you very much for your help with the translation.  Several 
of you wondered about the context.  This is a translation of two 
books on Ethiopia by Alexander Bulatovich, written in the 1890s.  
When you come across an unfamiliar word in these books, it is not 
always clear when he is adopting an Ethiopian term or if it is 
really a Russian word, perhaps obscure technical jargon.

From your replies, I gleaned the following:
1) "kluni" (always used in the plural) means barn or granary (an 
obsolete synonym for ambar)
2) "nonius" is a small ruler on some measurement devices which 
helps to measure fractions (Derived from the Latin, the English 
equivalent may also be "nonius"  But I still haven't found it in 
an English dictionary and hence should probably explain it in a 
footnote.)
3) "santal" probably means sandalwood
4) "sal'nik" is a part of a sheep's body where one finds "white 
fat" -- a parafin-like substance which is basically is like fat, 
but with a higher meltling point.  It looks like rounded 
aggregates of white spheres. (this obscure piece of wisdom comes 
from Alex Chaihorsky)

With your prompting, I compared all the contexts in which the 
word "kogo" appeared (about 20 places), and determined that it 
must be an Ethiopian term for a type of tree which has leaves 
like a banana tree, but does not have banana fruit.  Its roots 
can be processed and ground and baked into something resembling 
bread.

I will simply transliterate "Mesraim" (it seems futile to try to 
decipher what ruler of ancient Egypt that term refers to).

I still haven't been able to figure out "zhigo."  It appears only 
once, in the following sentence: "my vstretili Novyy god za 
otlichnym uzhinom, sostoyavshim iz supa, svarennogo iz ubitoy 
kozy, koz'ygo zhigo i khoroshego kofe."  It seems to be some 
edible part of a goat.  Can anyone tell me more?

No one, so far, has had any clue regarding "poa" and "elevzin."  
Both words appear many times in the text, almost always in lists 
of food, particularly cultivated grain.  These definitely are not 
Ethiopian words, because in a comparative glossary at the end, 
Bulatovich lists them in the Russian column and gives their 
equivalents in half a dozen Ethiopian languages.  In Amharic, poa 
is "t'ef," and elevzin is "dagussa."  So I tried it from that 
angle, but neither of those Amharic words appear in the Foreign 
Service Institute's Basic Course of Amharic.  By the way, 
Bulatovich usually spells "elevzin" with an initial e oboratnoye, 
but sometimes spells is "yelevzin."  In a couple of places, he 
makes it feminine, ending with "a".  He notes that this grain can 
be made into an intoxicating beverage.  Does this ring a bell for 
anyone?

In any case, I thank you all, very much, for your help.

Best wishes.

Richard Seltzer  seltzer@ics.dec.com
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