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From: dave@imax.imax.com (Dave Martindale)
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Organization: Imax Corporation, Mississauga Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:23:27 GMT

In article <RN.4129@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA> userLIBE@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (unknown) writes:
> 
>  We are common people under the crown of her majesty Queen 
>  Elizabeth II. [etc...]

Come on Dave, you posted this a number of months ago, and every single
reply thought it was a really silly idea.  Nobody agrees with you.
Why start over again?

It would also be nice if you ensured that your own name appeared
in the article header, rather than "unknown", so your articles can
be properly recognized by people's kill files.

	Dave
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: chris@suite.sw.oz.au (Chris Maltby)
Subject: Re: Cordless phone in Oz
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:11:08 GMT

In <1992Aug11.222435.20178@unixg.ubc.ca> kothav@jaeger.geog.ubc.ca (Zavareh Kothavala) writes:

>There is a possibility of me doing a year-abroad program in Australia
>and would prefer to use my (cordless) telephone rather than rent one
>there.
>
>I was told that the phone jacks in Australia are different from the 
>modular (snap-in) jacks used in the US and Canada.  
>
>Does anyone have any experience in this matter.  Would I be
>able to get the necessary adaptors or would I have to splice
>the telephone cable. 

The plugs are different but that ain't the problem. Unfortunately,
it is extremely illegal to import cordless telephones into Australia
and they are subject to confiscation (and maybe a fine) by customs.

The rationale for this bizarre state of affairs is that the radio
frequence spectrum is allocated differently in Australia and that
you phoone may interfere with devices such as remote control blasting
controllers (or whatever). It's bogus.

The customs form used to list cordless phones in the same paragraph
as narcotics, hallucinogenic drugs, handguns, knives and  other weapons.
I always got a laugh from it.

Chris
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From: aeyang@shamash.cdc.com ( Allen E. Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Where is Clause Endres?
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:24:06 GMT
Organization: Control Data, Arden Hills, MN

Please excuse the off-topic post, but this seemed to be the best way to
reach the right people.  I am trying to locate an old friend of mine who
emigrated from Munich, Germany to Australia.  His name is Clause Endres
and his last known internet address was "endres@miden.ucs.unimelb.edu.au".
That address is about two years old and is no longer valid.  If anyone
reading this news group has more recent informatition, I would appreciate
hearing at the E-mail address below (as opposed to the address above).

Thank you.  We now return to your regular program already in progress.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: haines@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (Andrew Haines, Civil, 1/113)
Subject: Re: Life in Aus
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:56:52 GMT

In article <94193@bu.edu> robrod@buengf.bu.edu writes:
>From: robrod@buengf.bu.edu
>Subject: Life in Aus
>Date: 20 Aug 92 22:23:53 GMT
>Thanks for the reply and postings on my questions.  This is very helpful.
>
>A couple of more questions:
>
>How good are Australian universities in technical fields?  
>If I go to Australia my girlfrind would also like to come.
>She would come before or after she finishes her MA depending on how good
>the universities are in her field of Computer Science.

Australian Universities are pretty comparable to the States - at least there'
s a reasonable staff exchange.  Perhaps someone in the field should answer 
this with regard to Comp. Sci.

>How much is an Australian dollar in American dollars? 

One Oz dollar gets you about 72 - 73 U.S. cents (at the moment the exchange 
rate is a little volatile).

>I saw a posting on the cost of living, but it was all in Australian 
>dollars.  Would someone post some more like:  The cost of phone and 
>electricity, an American car (are there Australian ones?),

No, we don't have too many "Yank tanks" on the roads here.  We have good 
Australian made cars by good Australian companies like Ford and General 
Motors :)  (Not to forget Mitsubishi and Toyota).

> a movie ticket, and phone calls.

One major shock you Yanks get is the price of petrol/gas.  It's about 70 
cents/litre (approx.  A$3.15/gallon) here in Melbourne at the moment.


Andrew Haines                       \ "You're all individuals!"
Computer Systems Officer              \ "WE'RE ALL INDIVIDUALS!"
Monash University, Melbourne, Australia \ "I'm not!" Monty Python:Life of Brian
From: robrod@buengf.bu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Life in Aus
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:23:53 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: robrod@buengf.bu.edu

Thanks for the reply and postings on my questions.  This is very helpful.

A couple of more questions:

How good are Australian universities in technical fields?  
If I go to Australia my girlfrind would also like to come.
She would come before or after she finishes her MA depending on how good
the universities are in her field of Computer Science.

How much is an Australian dollar in American dollars?  I saw a posting on
the cost of living, but it was all in Australian dollars.  Would someone
post some more like:  The cost of phone and electricity, an American car
(are there Australian ones?), a movie ticket, and phone calls.

Thanks for the net-help to all!
From: sjk@ut-emx.uucp (Phil Alvin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Keywords: Great Barrier Reef
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:50:07 GMT
Organization: Fred's Lounge


I'll be going to Australia in September on business, and would like
to take a few days off to see (and snorkel) the Great Barrier Reef.
It looks like Cairns is the best place to start from.  If so, can
anyone give me some rough travel costs from Syndey by plane, bus
and rail?  If not, any other advice on how to see the Reef?

Thanks,
scot
sjk@emx.cc.utexas.edu
From: twilson@alfred.carleton.ca (Tom Wilson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: life in aus
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:19:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: cunews.twilson.714320370
Organization: Carleton University

How about relations with Indonesia? I heard a few stories about
incursions while I was there last month.

Tom

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From: dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood)
Subject: Turks oppressed in Australia?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 14:32:48 GMT


Forgive me for coming into this late, but I just looked at
soc.culture.australian for the first time and all I find is 4 messages about
Turks and their neighbors.  Was I wrong in expecting s.c.aus to be about
Australia?  Aren't s.c.turkish, s.c.greek, t.p.mideast enough?  Or has
the Greek/Turk/Kurd/Armenian conflict spread to the antipodes?

Cluelessly yours,
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Libertarian candidate for California Assembly, 12th district
From: raghu@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: enquiry for job opportunities in australia.
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:09:58 GMT
Organization: NIST

hello there:
I am looking for any info you might be able to give on companies in 
the oil industry that will be interested in hiring process engineers.  
The person interested in this info is an australian green card holder and 
wishes to get a job there.  
He has several years of experience in the oil industry in the gulf.  
if anyone would be willing to mail me addresses, telephone numbers and 
e-mail addresses of potential employers or agents, I would very greatly 
appreciate such help.  
any pointers would also be highly appreciated.
raghu@enh.nist.edu
From: ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Cost of Living in Australia??
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:53:23 GMT
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland

ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) writes:
>	BTW, can anyone tell me why the Aussie buck has dropped this week?
>Combined with the drop in the $US, it's now down to SFr0.95 compared to 1.17
>a short while ago.

Major overseas investors have been over-exposed to the Australian investment
market. Lots are getting out now because of worldwide nervousness. Australian
companies/banks have a higher than average level of property portfolios and
a disastrous track record of overseas investment... eg the Japanese real estate
market. The evidence of recovery onshore is weak (albiet there) its an election
year in 2 states, and federally soon, with major tax adjustments forshadowed
by the opposition. Mining/Agribusiness is flat, sheeps loosing money big,
nobody wants the uranium, diamond market collapsed in the 80's.

Offshore interest rate for the market are 1% higher now, so lots of
shedding of government paper as well.

Fedbank intervention is slowing it down, not reversing it.

US economy little better. Bigger but, safer to stick to a wounded whale than
a sick sheep.

I don't understand any of this technogibebrish, its what I read by rote 
with moving lips when I munch greasy chips in the refectory.

	George, fighting off nervousness about his 10% mortgage...
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Re: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:19:32 GMT

In <129@elli.une.edu.au> dmiller@elli.une.edu.au (David Miller) writes:
>In "soc.culture.australian", sjk@ut-emx wrote:-
>>I'll be going to Australia in September on business, and would like
>>to take a few days off to see (and snorkel) the Great Barrier Reef.
>>It looks like Cairns is the best place to start from.  If so, can
>>anyone give me some rough travel costs from Syndey by plane, bus
>>and rail?  If not, any other advice on how to see the Reef?

  My guess on the cost is $A450 return. This is based on a round trip between
Townsville and Brisbane costing $280 at the *absolute* minumum.

>Cairns is the largest town that far North, but IMO it's a bit of a
>sleazy dump with mud flats as beaches.  You may find Townsville and
>Port Douglas nicer.  

  I haven't seen the beaches at Cairns, but they can't be much worse than
those here in Townsville. However Townsville has Magnetic Island which seems
to be very nice. Port Douglas is very nice, Ellis Beach between Cairns and PD
is even better. In fact, I suggest you stay at Ellis Beach and take trips from
Cairns, or something like that. It's about half an hour between the two, so
you would need a car. As for seeing the reef, there are a lot of trips from
Townsville but I think there are more from Cairns, and some from Port
Douglas.

>Rail service is not available, as far as I know, as the train line now
>terminates somewhere North of Brisbane.  I'm sure someone will pipe
>up if I'm wrong.  

  I can't rememember how far it goes! Certainly Townsville, possibly Cairns.
Yes, you're right, somewhere North of Brisbane :-).

>Re bus service -- have no idea on cost, but would _not_
>recommend it, as the distance is quite substantial (say, three days 
>in a car).

  No, don't get the bus. You can do Brisbane-Cairns in two days, but it's
tough, so add another two to get to Sydney.

>Enjoy your trip --

  I can answer further questions about Townsville if you like.


Friendless
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From: panisset@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Jean-Francois Panisset)
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 16:44:19 GMT

In article <RN.4129@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA> userLIBE@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (unknown) writes:
<drivel about uniting all "british" nations under the british crown deleted>

This is a joke, right?

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From: michael@vk2bea.UUCP (Michael G. Katzmann)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Cordless phone in Oz
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:27:13 GMT
Reply-To: michael@vk2bea.UUCP (Michael G. Katzmann)
Organization: Broadcast Sports Technology, Crofton. Maryland.

In article <1992Aug11.222435.20178@unixg.ubc.ca> kothav@jaeger.geog.ubc.ca (Zavareh Kothavala) writes:
>There is a possibility of me doing a year-abroad program in Australia
>and would prefer to use my (cordless) telephone rather than rent one
>there.
>
>I was told that the phone jacks in Australia are different from the 
>modular (snap-in) jacks used in the US and Canada.  
>

The standard telecom plug is very different from the modular plug
but you can get adapters in Australia. (Dick Smith electronics and the
like).

Your biggest problem will be getting it through Australian customs!
If my memory serves me correct, these devices are prohibited imports.
On the customs declaration you sign apon entering, there is specific
mention of cordless telephones (and cell-phones I think).



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Xref: sparky soc.culture.australian:3959 soc.culture.new-zealand:2356 soc.culture.british:11677
From: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: How did Australia and New Zealand Decimalise?
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:26:40 GMT
Reply-To: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.

Thanks to everyone who replied.  In case anyone else was wondering
how the conversion was done I enclose the following from one of the
replies I received

For New Zealand
-------------------------------------------------
>How was the conversion done, by letting one cent = one penny 
>       or  one dollar = 1 pound.
>
Neither.  one dollar = 10 shillings. This gave a minor inconvenience in 
converting pence; legislation (at least in NZ) imposed this lookup table:

pence:  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10 11 12
cents   1  2  2  3  4  5  6  7  8   9  9 10
                       *                  * *=exact
This is about the optimum in terms of using whole numbers only, and using
whole numbers was one of the two apparent principles (the other was making 
mental conversion easy)
--------------------------------------------------------------------

For Australia the respondents disagreed as to whether 1 shilling
was converted in 5c or 10c,  the most detailed reply gave it as
1shilling = 10 c.   And it was done in 14 Feb, 1966.
------------------------------------------------------------------

So I think the conclusion is simple - both the NZ and OZ gov's chose
a better conversion rate than the UK's.  Maybe they cared more about
minimising difficulties for their own citizens than they were bothered
about "keeping the value of the pound"
Xref: sparky soc.culture.australian:3989 soc.culture.celtic:5543 soc.culture.caribbean:1207 soc.culture.british:11728 soc.culture.canada:5959 soc.culture.new-zealand:2372 can.politics:6090 can.general:4096 aus.politics:1251
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.new-zealand,can.politics,can.general,aus.politics
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:13:46 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <RN.4129@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA>, userLIBE@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (unknown) writes:
>This is aimed at the citizens of the following countries:
>   United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
>   Canada
>   Australia
>   New Zealand
>   Antigua and Barbuda
>   The Bahamas
>   Barbados
>   Belize
>   Grenada
>   Jamaica
>   Mauritius
>   Papua New Guinea
>   St. Christopher St. kitts and Nevis
>   Saint Lucia
>   Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
>   The Soloman Islands
>   Tuvalu
>   Gibraltar
>   Montserrat
>   Anguilla
>   British Virgin Islands 
>   Cayman Islands
>   Turk and Caicos Islands
>   Bermuda
>   The Falkland Islands 
>   St. Helena
>   Tristan de Cunha
>   Ascension
>   Pitcairn Island
> 
>   all others, leave now or abandon all hope  ,L
> 
> 
>   That is all at this time.  IT is time to consider this seriously
>   and look at its merit.  So UK  reject Maastricht, Canada  reject
>   the Rebluican US ideology of FTA and NAFTA, let us as Britonnic 
>   countries unite at this time.  Thank you for your time
> 
>   Dave Shariff Yadallee 

Buzz off we dont need your One-World government

--
Red
From: jrb@unssun.nevada.edu (John Becker)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Might be moving to Australia - need advice
Date: 16 Aug 92 00:45:30 GMT
Reply-To: jrb@unssun.UUCP (John Becker)
Distribution: soc.culture.australian
Organization: University of Nevada-Reno


Hello everybody!

There is a pretty good possibility that I'll be moving to 
Australia (Sydney) in the near future, and since it is literally
a world away I have several questions.

What is it like living in Australia?  What are the people, culture,
and society like?  I've never lived outside of the U.S., so I'm
trying to get an idea of what to expect.  What are employer/employee
relations generally like, and what do people do for recreation
on their days off?

Thanks in advance.
John
  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (The Red Avenger)
Subject: Re: Turks oppressed in Australia?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:58:23 GMT

In <1396@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> tarokh@server.uwindsor.ca (TAROKH VAHID             ) writes:
>In article <Bt2z2p.Hq2@well.sf.ca.us>, dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood) writes:
>> 
>> Forgive me for coming into this late, but I just looked at
>> soc.culture.australian for the first time and all I find is 4 messages about
>> Turks and their neighbors.  Was I wrong in expecting s.c.aus to be about
>> Australia?  Aren't s.c.turkish, s.c.greek, t.p.mideast enough?  Or has
>> the Greek/Turk/Kurd/Armenian conflict spread to the antipodes?
>I just wanted to add that there are a lot of other newsgroups that you
>can find the same articles. It might be the case that the whole world 
>is persecuting our Turkish friends.

No, it has _nothing_ to do with soc.culture.oz, or half the other 
newsgroups in the Newsgroups: line. Some rather immature and stupid
individuals like the inimitable hasan.b.mutlu seem to think it
is a good idea to spread their rubbish as far and wide as possible.

If any of us were interested in whatever conflict, then it would be
safe to say that we would read the appropriate newsgroups. Note that
hasan.b.mutlu has even been the subject of the first (I think) attempted
banning of an individual from the net. Ah well, back to the grind...

Marty.
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From: daniels@apollo.hp.com (Stewart Daniels)
Subject: Re: Ug Boots
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:27:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Cooperative Object Computing Division -
	Chelmsford, MA

In article <36954@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan) writes:

>   A friend and co-worker of mine here in San Diego is looking for a
>   genuine pair of Ug Boots from Australia.  Anyone in OZ know how
>   much they cost, and whether they are available on some sort of
>   mail order (from someone like Myer, etc.)?

They're easy to make yourself, just grab a couple of sheep, put your
foot on the sheep's bum, and pull the sheep inside out!

Stew.

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From: serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee)
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 17:48:03 GMT

Somebody must really be bad tripping!

"OH OH McFly" <knock> <knock> "Is there anybody in there?" 

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				only care for what they want."
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: twilson@alfred.carleton.ca (Tom Wilson)
Subject: Melbourne murders
Summary: Update in Melbourne murders?
Keywords: murder, rommates
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:13:06 GMT

The day before I left Australia, July 31, not sure if it was 30 or 31,
anyhow, there was a triple murder in Melbourne: two women, and the
brother of one of the two. Police speculated that the murderer had
been drawn to the house by an add for a roommate that one of the women
had placed in the paper some days before.

I would be curious to hear of any updates in the case. It bears some
resemblance to the scenario of the film "Single White Female".

Please post.

Thanks

Tom

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From: tarokh@server.uwindsor.ca (TAROKH VAHID             )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Turks oppressed in Australia?
Summary: We guess they persecute Turks everywhere.
Date: 16 Aug 1992 18:18:17 GMT



In article <Bt2z2p.Hq2@well.sf.ca.us>, dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood) writes:
> 
> Forgive me for coming into this late, but I just looked at
> soc.culture.australian for the first time and all I find is 4 messages about
> Turks and their neighbors.  Was I wrong in expecting s.c.aus to be about
> Australia?  Aren't s.c.turkish, s.c.greek, t.p.mideast enough?  Or has
> the Greek/Turk/Kurd/Armenian conflict spread to the antipodes?
> 

I just wanted to add that there are a lot of other newsgroups that you
can find the same articles. It might be the case that the whole world 
is persecuting our Turkish friends.

- V. Tarokh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian