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From: whitejon@acf5.NYU.EDU (jonathan white)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Internet Access in NYC?
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:51:37 GMT
Organization: New York University

ak789@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Mihalko) writes:

>	Forgive me for adding to the endless requests for Internet 
>Access, but would anyone happen to know if there is any public hook-up
>avaliable in New York City? 



panix news and mail feeds + ftp and telnet available too. call
718 832 1525 and login as 'newuser'






Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: 900377c@dragon.acadiau.ca (Robert Campbell)
Subject: Amiga software
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:42:57 GMT

Hi there. I'm trying to set up a BBS that will support multiple lines,
FidoNet/Internet, and aliases on an Amiga. Do any of you have any suggestions
for me? I have been using Falcon for the time being but I seem to ba having
some problems with it. Thanks!

Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: bell@teal.csn.org (Bell Scott)
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 13:18:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.174932.4151@uvm.edu> cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:
>From article <BtBsBM.CG4@csn.org>, by bell@teal.csn.org (Bell Scott):
>> In article <1992Aug19.163738.14506@uvm.edu> cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:
[...]
>> normally this would simply be a case of bad marketing, however, since this
>> committee will be deciding what kind of Z-Modem and graphics interface I HAVE
>> TO IMPLEMENT if I hope to get ANY traffic on my system.  I am a bit upset.  It
[...]
>> I would be very curious to see the list of representatives on this 'committee'.
>
>	I hear you.  Like I said, while I heard a lot about it in the
>"fido" world of things (mainly because the TBBS echo is the primary
>echo I read), I think I saw *1* posting of it in this newgroup some
>months back.  I would try to say that since this was their first
>outing, it might count as some sort of excuse, but if living in Denver,
>you had never heard of ONE, it seems that there were some serious
>publicity problems which need to be addressed...
>
>> If you would be so kind as to forward (or better post it here) this list of
>> my representatives then perhaps I can have a hand in these decisions being
>> made in our representative democracy.
>
>	I'll ask Phil this weekend and see what he'll say.
>
>> 	Chris: Noone should take my comments personally as they are not directed
>> personally.  I do hope you have not taken them as such.  (Though Mr. Rickard
>> might have just cause for doing so...by the way, WHERE IS HE???)A
>
>	I have absolutetly no problem with that.  When I talk, I feel
>the same way *grin*.
>
> TTYL
> Chris

	Great!  Ok, now next question, how does an internetter join in on this
Fido-Net committee?

bell@teal.csn.org
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From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Date: 23 Aug 92 00:27:53 GMT
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745

grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean) writes:

> Phil Becker was full of it, too. There was no problem with Zmodem
>changing, the new releases of DSZ (and the rzsz source) were to work
>on different systems better. Zmodem was very stable and very effective.
>Becker was just avoiding the work. If he couldn't get one DSZ to talk

I have to agree with you on this.  Becker made excuses about zmodem
not working -- while other vendors were using zmodem in the product
without problems --

> Standing for saying "everyone should use TBBS" from what you have
>said so far...

TBBS is very conservative -- it always has been (and always has
been behind schedule as well).  
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
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From: anarch@Apple.COM (The Anarch)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.bbs.lists
Subject: NYC (212) bbs with net connection wanted
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:42:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Secular Humanists from Hell


     I am seeking a BBS, public UNIX, or similar dialup system in the NYC/212
area with some net capabilities.  Internet mail is a necessity, Usenet
desired, ftp/telnet would be nice.  Please mail any replies; I don't read
these groups.  If you are also interested in this info, let me know and I
will pass on whatever I receive.
     Thanks.

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean)
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Organization: Blue Moon
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:37:15 GMT

>	Here's an example:  TBBS 2.1, when it was released in 1988, did not
>have Zmodem.  People harped and complained about it since Zmodem had been
>out for awhile.  Why didn't Phil Becker implement it?  Because there was
>no standard.  He said that he had taken two copies of DSZ, both just a couple
>of months apart, and they wouldn't work with each other.  Would it have been
>a viable business interest for him to implement a potentially buggy Zmodem
>into TBBS?

 Phil Becker was full of it, too. There was no problem with Zmodem
changing, the new releases of DSZ (and the rzsz source) were to work
on different systems better. Zmodem was very stable and very effective.
Becker was just avoiding the work. If he couldn't get one DSZ to talk
to another it was his own stupidity and not that DSZ wouldn't talk to
an older copy of itself.

>	I see this commitee as one that would hammer out all of the details of
>Zmodem (in this example) before the developers would have to risk implementing

 The committee would have no right to say the first thing about Zmodem.
The author (Chuck Forsberg) is alive and well and doing business. All
the details of Zmodem were hammered out before it was released. Don't
base what that committee should do on one person's (Phil Becker's)
stupidity.

>it.  There are other things that need to be decided upon as well.  Since
>Zmodem came out, I think there are 5-6 newer protocols.  Besides the NAPLPS
>graphics interface you mentioned above, there are at leaat 3 others.  
>Which of these should BBS and telecommunication software developers integrate
>into their software?  This is what I see the commitee standing for.

 Standing for saying "everyone should use TBBS" from what you have
said so far...

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        Tested on dolphins and assorted helpless furry creatures

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: BBS Standards Committee Formed
From: cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler, Phish)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:07:17 GMT
Organization: Fantasy, Incorporated: Reality None of Our Business.

ONE BBSCON, 14 August, 1992

Top companies in the BBS and communications industry met this August
14th at the ONE BBSCON in Denver, Colorado, in an unprecidented cooperative
effort to define and implement interoperable standards in graphics,
messaging, and other aspects of BBS communications. The meeting, called
by Searchlight's Frank LaRosa, was attended with enthusiasm by some of
the best talent in the communications field. The attendees agreed to form
a standards organization, the BBSC (Bulletin Board Standards Committee),
to examine existing standards, and evaluate their capabilities in the BBS
and communications forum. Plans are to determine which standards meet the
requirements of the rapidly evolving community, and implement and extend
them, as well as develop new standards as needed. The goals are to define
a set of protocols and standards to allow communications software and
BBSs to interoperate graphically and share common communications formats.

Member companies present at the ONE BBSCON include:

Searchlight, UUPlus, eSoft, Galacticomm, Magee, TopSoft, Mustang, Datastorm,
Dragon's Eye, Martech Software, ProsperNet, Exis Inc., Apple Computer,
Unocero, Resnova Software, Advanced Systems Research, Microstar Software Ltd,
Pandora Systems, Fracterm/Cardz, Pronto Info Systems, Clark Development, 
Late Night Software, and Merlin Systems, Inc.

Anyone wishing to participate in the development process, or interested in
more information should contact:

Christopher Ambler
UUPlus Development
1344 Madonna Road, Suite 242
San Luis Obispo, Ca, 93405
ATTN: BBSC Information

Voice: 805-542-0336
Fax/BBS: 805-543-8227 (BBS, mail to BBSC)
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From: dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com (Doug Granzow)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: PC Persuit--Need Information
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:59:57 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-iisysops]

PC Pursuit is available from most cities in the United States.  With it,
you can make modem connections to BBS's in selected cities across the U.S.
(I think there are about 40 cities).  Baltimore is NOT one of those 40
cities.

PC Pursuit has a $30 signup fee, and has two price plans: $30 for 30 hours,
or $50 for 60 hours. (per month.)  Any usage over 30 or 60 hours is billed
per hour (I think the rate is around $4/hours).  Any usage on weekdays
between 7AM and 6PM is billed per hour at something like $14/hour.

PC Pursuit is only available at 2400 bps or less. Because PC Pursuit uses a
packet switching network, throughput is effectively slowed to about 1200
bps. 

PC Pursuit seems to have a reputation for poor customer service.  If you
really want to join up, I'm sure someone around here will post the 800
number (I don't know it.)  Personally, I'd recommend a 9600 bps modem. 
(One year of PC Pursuit will cost you $360 -- you could buy a 9600 bps
modem for that much.)
From: billc@Apple.COM (Bill Cockayne)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: 919 ac
Date: 21 Aug 92 01:27:43 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

I am looking for a list of bbs systems in the 919 area code?

please send them to my account.

thanx in advance
bill cockayne
billc@apple.com
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From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:41:21 GMT
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745

erik@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Erik VanRiper) writes:

>But they certainly DO represent BBS-for-profit, which I am ENTIRELY AGAINST.

>These people really make my skin crawl, which, of course, makes me want to 
>ignore everything that they do.  They "think" that they can guide the "industry"
>when in fact all they do is make money off of people that don't know any
>better in the first place.  ARGGGH!

not that you got that off your chest --

I think there is nothing wrong with marketing a product, even a BBS
subscription.  Users will pay for quality -- and if a SYSOP has a setup
than can yield a profit -- more power to him.

-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan (KD1HZ))
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:06:53 GMT

cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler,				Who?Phish) writes:

>Top companies in the BBS and communications industry met this August
>14th at the ONE BBSCON in Denver, Colorado,in an unprecidented cooperative
>effort to define and implement interoperable standards in graphics,
>messaging, and other aspects of BBS communications.

[Vendor list deleted]

I don't think that these companies are hardly representative of the
"top companies in the BBS and communications industry".

MD
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Looking for certain type of BBS software
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:44:06 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

akc@pilot.njin.net (Albert K. Costanzo) writes:
>I am interested in finding some BBS software which supports internet
>e-mail to setup on an IBM pc.  I would also be interested if this
>softwar could handle verifying who was logged in and for how long.

>And not that I am looking for the world -but- it would be nice if it
>somehow could handle more than one user at a time so that I could
>have more than one dial in line...


Get Maximus for OS/2.  Internet mail, Usenet, FidoNet, etc.  It kicks,
and does multiline with ease.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: bbs.claebaur@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Tony Annese)
Subject: Re: Telecomputing, Boardwatch Mags?
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:58:27 GMT

peters@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Dan Peters) writes:

> HI,
> 	Can anyone suggest some magazines with good info about BBSs?
> 
> 	The names of Telecomputing and Boardwatch have been already 
> 	mentioned as magazines.
> 	Are these good?
> 	Where in New England (Mass and N.H.) might I find these?
You can get ahold of Boardwatch at 1-800-933-6038.

--
Tony Annese (bbs.claebaur@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: mr.mike@ozonehole.new-orleans.la.us (Mr Mike) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committ
Date: 20 Aug 92 07:54:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Ozone Hole BBS - New Orleans, LA - (504)891-3142 16800 Baud
Reply-To: mr.mike@ozonehole.new-orleans.la.us (Mr Mike) 

MP>[Vendor list deleted]

MP>I don't think that these companies are hardly representative of the
MP>"top companies in the BBS and communications industry".

You would be in the minority then.  As far as the PC industry and
BBSing and Communications go...these are, in fact, the top in the
industry.

Might want to take a look at PC Magazine every once and a while if you
want to keep up.

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.lists
From: szhu@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Shane Zhu)
Subject: Wanted: 315 area BBS list
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 10:34:26 EDT

Can anybody post the latest BBS list for 315 area? Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs.unixbbs
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: XBBS Version 7.200
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:54:36 GMT

sandy@godzilla.quotron.com (Sanford Zelkovitz) writes:


>XBBS, version 7.200, is now online for downloading.
>This new version no longer requires external
>programs to list "arc" and "zip" files. Also,
>additional enhancements were made for SVR4 support.

Does XBBS these days support news and internet email
directly -- or does it still require the spawning of
external applications?

-- 
Larry Snyder
larry@gator.rn.com
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: BBS software for sun U(UNIX ) system
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:19:31 GMT

bob@teamate.UUCP (bob) writes:

>We sell a UNIX BBS product called TEAMate.  If you'd like to give it a try
>         on Internet, telnet to supernet.ans.net or we can send you
>         written info.

why don't you tell everyone how expensive it is?

There are many BBS packages available for UNIX - many of which
come with source code -- which will enable SYSOPs to customize
their system anyway they want to.

And since UNIX is multiuser -- that isn't a real issue for the BBS
to handle.

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: cybrspc!wwiv!135-9702@cs.umn.edu (Lysander #135 @9702)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: there have to be...
Date: 12 Aug 92 02:48:20 GMT

there have to be some BBSs in Salem, Or... anybody want to give me a number or
two? hmmm?

                                                  Lysander...
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
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Subject: The Superior BBS
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Organization: Dakota State University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:48:50 GMT

     
                                                     
                                                           
                      
                                           
                                                 
                       
                          
                                            
                                                       
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: new york's best!
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:03:07 EST
Reply-To: "execnet support" <execnet.support@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

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From: davison@living.rutgers.edu (Brian D. Davison)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads,alt.bbs,alt.internet.access.wanted
Subject: Is there interest in a NJ (908) public access machine?
Keywords: unix,public,access,NJ
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:15:31 GMT
Followup-To: alt.bbs.ads
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Would you or someone you know be interested in an inexpensive public
access system in New Jersey (908 area code)?  If so, you may want to
write and let me know, because I am considering starting such a service
(not affiliated with Rutgers) if there is enough interest.

This service would provide internet e-mail, netnews and a unix or
unix-like account with some filespace.  A direct internet connection
supporting telnet, ftp, etc. would not be available immediately but
would be a future possibility.

In addition to telling me of your interest, please also give me an
address (e-mail or snail mail) if you would like to be notified when
(and if) this system is to be started.

I will probably post this request once more in a few weeks (after the
new semester starts).

Thank you.
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Ads? Where???
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 09:34:57 GMT

sbrack@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Steven S. Brack) writes:
>	I have yet to see an ad for a BBS in this group.

Glad to oblidge!  :-)


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