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From: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: B&B "Work-in-Progress" on tape? Beta?
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:51:22 GMT
Reply-To: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Oct14.122108.1@alien.gici.com> laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut) writes:
>	Can anyone tell me the following, regarding "Beauty and the Beast":
>
>	#1 - Will it be available in Beta?  (ha, ha!)
>	#2 - Will the "Work-in-Progress" be issued on tape, or just LD?
>

#1 - .... :-)
#2 - Sight and Sound is accepting pre orders for the LD (they quoted
the release date as Oct. 21) and my local Suncoast Motion Picture Co.
is also taking orders for the B&tB gift set (movie, making of, work in
progress, all on VHS). Oct. 28 release date. 


   ---> farul ghazali.
        columbia university in the city of new york.
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Why I love Disney, Part 47
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:37:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Oct9.181725.7457@PA.dec.com> snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
>In article <18iqt4INNgdi@agate.berkeley.edu>, 
>  witness@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes...
>
>>So then why was it so inconceivable for Disney to GRANT permission
>>to the preschool and allow Mickey to stay?  Authorized permission.
>
>When bank robbers are caught, why don't they just let them give the money back
>and go free?  There's precious little motivation for businesses to obey
>copyright regulations if all that results from reported violations is that
>they're given permission to use legally what they stole in the first place.
>
> - snopes
>

That's absolutely right!  Take a look at how hard it's been for the
company that holds the rights to Pinocchio's songs (is it Bourne?)
to convince the court that they still want the rights.

Had the preschool come to Disney in the beginning, it might be 
another story.  Then again, allowing the school to use Disney
characters sort of implies to passers-by that Disney owns or in some
way supports the preschool.  If the preschool, in a stroke of heinous
misfortune, becomes involved in a tabloid-type problem, Disney may
be implicated.  The company is sufficiently paranoid, with good
reason (millions o' $$$$), not to allow any preschool to sport their
characters.  Mickey doesn't come cheap.


- Robert Cook
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Animated features...again
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:20:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I once posted a list of upcoming animated features--most of them
were already well-known.  I just found out that Song of the Sea
(surprised me, too) is about a whale's "coming of age."  Does that
sound kinda familiar?  Sounds like a wet version of 1993's King of
the Jungle.  Its songs are to be written by Lynn Ahrens and Steve
Flaherty, who wrote "Once on this Island."  This play received
mixed reviews, ranging from good to awful.

I read once last year that there might someday be a Frog Prince
film.  I think we can dismiss this one as having a 90% rumor rating.
Its theme also sounds very familiar.

A film that seems to be less of a rumor, but still very strange is
Nightmare Before Christmas.  Yes, it is typed correctly.  Production
began supposedly around the same time as King of the Jungle.  Its
producer (and presumably its director) is none other than Tim
Burton!  What?  Tim Burton?  Burton had worked for Disney in the
70's.  He produced a few shorts and a featurette before leaving
Disney soon after Bluth, Goldman, Pomeroy, and cohorts took off.
After Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, and two Batmans, why would
he make a movie for Disney?

I realize the nature of film rumors and announcements, so if anyone
can set me straight, please do so.


- Robert Cook
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin Release Date
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:12:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Oct13.034831.3749@sdcrsi.cray.com> kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom) writes:
>
[deleted text]
>
>I believe that Disney owns the El Capitan, and has premiered all
>of its movies since THE ROCKETEER there. 
>
>--Kathy Li aka the Rev. Mom


To be specific, Disney owns it jointly with Pacific Theaters, which
actually manages the (redundant 'the') El Capitan.  What a great way
to promote films!


- Robert Cook
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: B&B scores in Japan
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:10:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Beauty and the Beast took in about 364 million yen ($2.9 million) at
the Japanese box office last weekend, a phenomenal amount considering
the market there.  Disney estimates that they are likely to take in
a grand total of 2 billion yen ($16 million) in theater rentals.
The primary audience appears to be young women aged 16-29.


- Robert Cook
From: PRATT@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Phil Pratt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disneyland Hotel
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:03:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maine System


I recall that the WDW Disney Hotels (Polynesian,
Contemporary, etc.) have the park pass included.
When my family and I spent a week at the Disneyland
Hotel last February park admission was extra.
I think it was worth it, however.  While there
are other, cheaper hotels near the park, the
monorail provides superb, no-wait transportation
back-and-forth.  Were we to return toDisneyland
we'd stay there again -- no question -- even in
view of the extra dollars.
From: chamber@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Craig Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Spectro-music
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:24:12 GMT
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)

In article <1992Oct9.201329.27153@aa.cad.slb.com> chamber@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Craig Chamberlain) writes:
>
>For those who wanted more information about some of the
>recordings of the music for the Main Street Electrical Parade,
>here is detailed information about the recordings I have:
>
> 1. The song "Baroque Hoedown" is the basis for the parade
>    music.  Disney took this song and added a few electronic
>    enhancements and a number of other themes as counter
>    melodies to create the music used for the parade.
>    The original version of this song is:
>
>    "Baroque Hoedown" 2:24 (Perrey-Kingsley)
>    Fennario Music Publ., Inc. / ASCAP
>    From the double album "The Essential Perrey & Kingsley"
>    On the Vanguard label, VSD 71/72, copyright 1975.
>    The song is the first one on side two of the second
>    record, which is labeled VSD-72-B.
>    I suspect that this double album is formed from two
>    earlier releases, but the double album has no information
>    about those releases.
>    I am writing to Vanguard Recording Society, Inc. to inquire
>    if this is still available in any form, although I doubt
>    that it is.

Oops - I found out that Vanguard went out of business years ago.  So I
don't have much hope of getting any more copies of the original Perrey
& Kingsley music, or the other records that they made.  If anyone has
any records by Jean-Jacques Perrey and/or Gershon Kingsley or knows
how to contact them, I sure would appreciate hearing from you.
-- 
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Applicon Schlumberger
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:05:53 PDT

In article <1992Oct15.190111.5449@u.washington.edu>, mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner) writes:
> 
> And one final tip about Pirates: when it's late at night and the
> ride is deserted, many couples like to take advantage of the privacy and
> the darkness to "go at it."  They seem to forget all the hidden cameras...
> you wouldn't believe how many tapes I've seen that the Playboy Channel
> would love....

Yup.  Take a look at the cast member in the little control room above
and in front of you to the left after you sit down but before the boat
moves out.  Some of the expresions you see are priceless, though you
can only guess what they're seeing on the monitors.

I imagine that the Haunted Mansion is even "better" for that sort of
thing, but unfortunately guests don't get to see the person watching
the monitors.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: bcossa@raleigh.ibm.com (Bill Cossa)
Subject: starting a collection
Summary: new collector just starting out
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:16:06 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: bcossa@raleigh.ibm.com (Bill Cossa)
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

I have long wanted to become a Disneyana collector but I have no idea where to
start. Should I focus on statues, cels, etc.? When I pick one of these then where
do I start within those groups? I know that there are some Disneyana books that
are there for reference but not as a teaching vehicle. Can anyone help me
through this startup with some suggestions?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: davidf@HQ.Ileaf.COM (David Fristrom)
Subject: Re: B&B "Work-in-Progress" on tape? Beta?
Reply-To: davidf@HQ.Ileaf.COM (David Fristrom)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 20:18:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.122108.1@alien.gici.com> laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut) writes:
> 
> 	I know this has been discussed here before, but my news server
> purged out the files.
> 
> 	Can anyone tell me the following, regarding "Beauty and the Beast":
> 
> 	#1 - Will it be available in Beta?  (ha, ha!)
> 	#2 - Will the "Work-in-Progress" be issued on tape, or just LD?

According to a small sign (which was obviously "official" Disney
marketing material) I saw at a video store, there will be a
Collector's edition released at the same time as the regular B&B tape
(the end of the month).

The Collector's edition will include both the regular B&B tape and the
"Work-in-Progress" on tape, the soundtrack on CD, a booklet, and a
"limited edition" lithograph.  If I am remembering correctly, the list
price will be about $100, but if you do an advance order it will be
$75.

David Fristrom		|
Interleaf, Inc.		|	"Whatever they offer you
davidf@ileaf.com	|	 Don't feed the plants!"
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Howard Ashman
Date: 14 Oct 1992 22:59:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


I agree entirely.  The Ashman/Menken duo has been the best musical
team Disney's used since Sherman and Sherman.  I know I adore the
music for TLM and B&B, and I'm really looking forward to hearing 
Little Shop.  The two oscar-winning songs and multiple nominations
for both A+M's Disney works is a testament to the impressive skill
of both these artists.  Howard Ashman will most definitely be missed.
BTW, I thought the dedication to Ashman on B&B was very touching and 
very deserved.
Just my humble opinion,
Linda
-- 
"Let everything that has breath praise the Lord"----Psalm 150:6
Calvin: "A penny for your thoughts." 
Hobbes  "Sorry.  My thoughts are a buck apiece."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: swimmer@fritz.catt.ncsu.edu (Jennifer Bouck)
Subject: Re: Please Settle This!
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:21:57 GMT

STEVEN.SULLIVAN@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Steven M Sullivan") writes:

>Would you Disney netters please settle this friendly disagreement?

>Person 1 says that the castles at Disneyland and WDW are both Cinderella's
>castles.

>Person 2 says the the castle at Disneyland is Cinderella's castle and the
>castle at WDW is Sleeping Beauty's castle.

>Who is correct?

>BTW, while we're on the subject, who's castles are in Tokyo and France?

>                                       Thanks!

Actually neither person is correct, its Sleeping Beauty's castle in
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From: russell@pmarlowe.uucp (Russell Shanks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disneyland Update
Summary: Disneyland as of 10/11/92
Keywords: MSEP Goofy Parade Queen Mary
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:00:21 GMT
Reply-To: russell@pmarlowe.cts.com (Russell Shanks)
Organization: rsg

In article <1992Oct11.003251.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>No substantive changes from the last report.  The things that were closed
>are still closed, and nothing new has joined the list.

	That about sums up what I noticed on Sunday as well, but
  I did notice that the Disneyland Today Schedules are no long coming
  with a Queen Mary flyer.  When did they drop the flyers?  It must have
  been within the last few weeks.  I also noticed that the 'World According
  to Goofy Parade' was only appearing twice and a lot later than it used
  to (5:30 & 8:50 PM).  I assume this is to take up the slack for the
  MSEP, but this new schedule leaves a gap in the early afternoon hours.
  Why not 3 runs?

 Russell

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From: tanida@forseti.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: rec.arts.disney FAQ, for October
Keywords: FAQ, disney
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:32:46 GMT
Expires: 15 Nov 92 18:30:50 GMT
Reply-To: tanida@esosun.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
Followup-To: rec.arts.disney

The rec.arts.disney FAQ for the month of October follows this post.
Part 1 has been split into two parts, posted as Part 1a and Part 1b
to keep them under 50K.

Changes since last posting:
- Multiple additions to part 2, including completion of #12
- Minor revisions to part 1, to remain timely.  Some discussion of
  Aladdin in question #1 added
- Numerous spelling/grammatical corrections
- Postscript version formatting improved, including removal of 
  some minor margin problems, and addition of new fonts for messages
  included in the body of the text to support better formatting 

-Tom
tanida@esosun.css.gov
From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Query--Illuminations exclusions
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:28:32 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Apologies if this is FAQ'd but I didna see it.

	Why are Norway and Morrocco still not in Illuminations at Epcot
Center?  I suspected at first it was simply because they were changing
Illuminations, or hadnt had time to add them yet, but its been plenty
enough time for either.  Is there some cost to the host sponsor that caused
these two not to participate?  I know there were others besides me, standing
in front of Norway, who were puzzling over this during the performance. 
	Thanks for any info in advance :)

-- 
  "If the best things in life are free, then my current price is
   $37k with a 10% downpayment."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: scottsc@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Why I love Disney, Part 47
Summary: Matt Groening Has His Say
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:01:20 GMT


>In article <18iqt4INNgdi@agate.berkeley.edu>, 
>  witness@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes...
>
>>So then why was it so inconceivable for Disney to GRANT permission
>>to the preschool and allow Mickey to stay?  Authorized permission.
>

Rather than join the fray I'll sidetrack the issue for a moment. Did
anyone catch last night's episode of The Simpson's? I about fell out of
my seat, even though I agree with Disney's right and need to enforce their
trademarks and copyrights.

If you didn't catch it, the show opened with Principal Skinner standing
outside of Springfield Elementary where he is being threatened by three
"suits". It appears that the motto for the Springfield Elementary Carnival
is "The Happiest Place On Earth" (everyone in this group knows whose motto
that is, don't we?) The lawyers threaten to bring down the wrath of the 
Justice System on Principal Skinner for violating their company's trademarks.
One of the "suits" has a logo on his briefcase which is clearly a stylized
mouse ears logo. 

At any rate, the "suits" tell the Principal that he's made a big mistake. 
Principal Skinner replies "YOU just made a big mistake! You made an ex-
Green Beret MAD!!" and he proceeds to do a Chuck Norris imitation on 
the "suits". The one left standing flees in terror, only to get nailed by
a flying briefcase right before he crosses the horizon (affording us 
another clear look at the logo on the briefcase). 

I support Disney's actions (not neccesarily their methods) but I still 
thought it was hilarious. The whole preschool incident happened so long
ago that one could almost wonder whether Matt Groening reads this group...


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From: WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: The Small One
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:32:52 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I'm not familiar with most of the post 1970 Disney animation. Recently I've
read little blurbs regarding a "1978-Special" that was done by Don Bluth,
however, none of my other Disney books mention it. Can someone fill me in
on this film or recommend a book that has information?

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From: schmitz@arthur.uchicago.edu (David Schmitz)
Subject:  The Little Mermaid-VHS tapes available!!
Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Chicago
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:06:38 GMT


If anyone is still looking for (relatively cheap) "The Little Mermaid"
VHS tapes, there's a video store in Chicago (Hyde Park) that has 26
copies in stock selling for $29.99/tape.  If anyone would like more
information, e-mail me at schmitz@zaphod.uchicago.edu

David Schmitz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: dons@col.hp.com (Don Schott)
Subject: Pirates of the Caribbean
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:28:31 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

	I have been enjoying the posts from Rich and Carol among 
others so much that I thought that that I would try to contribute 
some of my experiences at DL and WDW as well.  This is also my first 
attempt to post to a notes/news group, so it's somewhat of a test as well.

	I was interested in seeing how many people prefer the 
Pirates of the Caribbean at DL vs at WDW.  Many of the scenes 
seem to be the very similar, but there also seem to be differences.  
I think I remember 2 drops in the channel at DL while only 1 at
WDW.  The ride also seemed longer at DL, and you ride the boat back 
up to the surface (so to speak), while you get off before the
boats go back up at WDW.  

     	My girlfried and I were at DL in 1989 and WDW in 1991,
and we prefer the original the best.  We wish we could ride the
two within a short period of time, so that we could better compare
them.  Pirates is one of our favorites at both places.

	What do the rest of you think?
	
	She will be going to Japan on business in Nov. and
wants to try to get to Tokyo Disneyland (I am Sooooo jealous).
I think TDL has a Pirates.  I wonder what it's like?  It's hard
to imagine some of the dialogue translated into Japanese.

	If this post works I have more good stuff to relate 
including last years trip to WDW.  I haven't heard anyone else 
talk about the Grand Floridian, where we stayed, so maybe there 
would be some interest in this.  I also took the behind the scenes
tour, and have some additional things that I remember.

	Don Schott
	Colorado Springs


Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Halloween / Haunted Mansion Help
Reply-To: jpenovic@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:48:49 GMT

> >>Big Favor to ask...
> >>Anyway, I would like to know the quotes on the the tombstones at the
> >>Haunted Mansion in WDW so that I can put them on my tombstones and try 
> >>Halloween (and I personally think it would be neat).

> >Here lies dear brother Dave 
> >He chased a bear into a cave
> >that's all I can remember offhand, darnit...:P
> >
> >>Brad
> >  Tyger

> I too can only remember one:
> 
> 	Rest in Peace Uncle Hewitt
> 	We all know you didn't do it.
> 

  I remember:

   Here lies Fred
   A great big rock fell on his head.

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From: timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Halloween / Haunted Mansion Help
Date: 15 Oct 1992 16:47:22 GMT
Organization: /etc/organizaton
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu
Keywords: WDW tombstones epitaphs Haunted Mansion

In article <1992Oct13.134338.5783@pmarlowe.uucp> russell@pmarlowe.cts.com (Russell Shanks) writes:

> 
>                 WDW HAUNTED MANSION TOMBSTONE EPITAPHS
>                
>
>    * Master Gracey laid to rest.
>      No mourning, please, at his request.
>      Farewell.
>


I wonder if this is a sort of "inside joke" reference 
to Yale Gracey.

If I remember correctly, Gracey was one of the
"Imagineers" who developed some of the special 
effects for what was to become the Haunted Mansion.
Perhaps this was Disney's way of honoring him, much
like a window on Main Street (Kind of morbid,
though).  :-)   Does anyone know for sure?


--Tim

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>______________________________________________________________________
>
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: WDW at New Years
From: Doris M. Bornhoeft <BORNHOEF@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 12:52:30 CDT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

I just discovered this list and perfect timing! I'll be at
WDW 12/31/92 - 1/3/93. I've been to Disneyland but this is
first time to Florida... has anyone heard about special
events at WDW during this time? I've called WDW and they
say to call back in late November... I've heard they have
extended hours on New Year's Eve but that's about it.
I'm also wondering about the weather that time of year
(I'm also going to Freeport & Nassau, Bahamas, any suggestions
for there would be appreciated).

Thanks for any suggestions!

Doris Bornhoeft
BITNET: bornhoef@ndsuvm1
Internet: bornhoef@vm1.nodak.edu
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From: alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy)
Subject: Re: B&B Gifs
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:54:34 GMT

Hey!  If anyone finds this out, can you post it?  I'm interested in it, too.

Thanks!  :-)

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