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From: jamcdani@zia.ucs.indiana.edu ("jennifer mc daniel")
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Backmasking in Leave it Open
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:50:38 GMT
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Organization: Indiana University
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In article <65318@apple.Apple.COM> s.telford@ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford)  
writes: 
> In article <65286@apple.Apple.COM>, vjmurphy%carina.unm.edu@lynx.unm.edu  
(Phred T. Platypus) writes:
> > 
> >    Could someone e-mail me the text of the backmasked message
> >  from Kate's Leave it Open from the Dreaming album?  It's confusing
> >  me.
> It's not really a "secret message" at all: just "We let the wierdness
> in" being sung backwards (Kate's quite good at this 8^)


She's good at what? At singing backwards, or letting the weirdness in?
;)


> and played
> back backwards. Actually, if you play the track backwards it soulds a
> lot like "They said they were very ill..." which may or may not be
> coincidence (hmmm...maybe it is a secret message after all....8^)


In that case, who would have been ill, IYO? 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jenni McDaniel, Indiana University, Department of Psychology
"All we ever look for: a god...a drug...a great big hug." -KaTe Bush
 Big ol' IU taking the opinions of one undergrad?!? Yeah, right....
From: dombkins graham gr@ITMEL.BHP.bhpmel02.telememo.au (Dombkins Graham GR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Tori is being played
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:59:31 GMT
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Hey, it looks like the radio stations around here have finally hear about Tori 
Amos. I heard her for the first time on radio today, and now twice in the one 
hour!


- Graham
From: @EDDIE.MIT.EDU,@vm1.gatech.edu:GONTERNN@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Sarah McLachlan 2nd cd already available?
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:16:59 GMT
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


The subject says it all.  Is her 2nd cd available by now or is it
held back still, if so, does anyone have a clue why?


best wishes, Gerhard Gonter


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From: cbmvax!grr@uunet.UU.NET (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Help on Mailing lists (creating ML for enya)
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:18:51 GMT
Reply-To: cbmvax!cbmvax!grr@uunet.UU.NET (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
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Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


In article <65072@apple.Apple.COM> ml@vcp1.vcp.monash.edu.au writes:
> 
> I'm seriously considering setting up mailing list for information and articles,
> ect. about enya.  Articles and discussion on rec.music.newage are getting a
> little on the mundane side with regard to enya - always the same questions
> being asked.  Hopefully a mailing list would lessen the mundane messages and
> quell passions and flames and the same time. (There is a proposal to create a
> rec.music.enya newsgroup but somehow I don't think it will succeed as there 
> might not be enough users dedicated to carry the newsgroup on.  But I might be
> wrong.  It has not yet gone to a vote.)


Mailing lists are an incredible pain in the butt (for the list maintainer).
Not only do you have hassles with mail bouncing, you always get requests to
join when you don't have time/energy to deal with them, and you will still
be getting them long after the list is dead.


What you want to do is create alt.music.enya or alt.fan.enya - alternate
groups are usually created after only a little discussion and without the
voting stuff.  If it's still active n-months from now, and you have ~20
different people posting per month, you will probably have enough readers
for a vote to pass.  If not, it was just a momentary excitement and didn't
really justify it's own group vs. the general new age category.


See alt.config and related groups for details.  I should be admitted that
not everyone can get the alt groups, but still it gives the most bang for
the buck, and you can set up an e-mai gateway if you wish.
From: brownfld@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth R Brownfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re:  Le Moon Seven Times Info/Update
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:43:54 GMT
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The following was created and performed by woj@remus.rutgers.edu:
|brownfld@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth R Brownfield) sez:
|>     M7x will be releasing a single in late April of the 7" variety.  
|will this be on third mind as henry said in the last newsletter? also, do


     The single is going to be on Parasol records, the same Parasol here in
Urbana, Illinois.  The main purpose was to spread the single locally and to
send it to other record stores and stations, I would guess.
     From what Henry has said, my guess is that the CD will come out at the
start of the next academic semester, give or take.  The single oughta fill
in the space pretty well, although I'm impatiently drooling for more
material.


|you have any idea about availability and distribution. i'd like to get this
|at a record store rather than having to order it directly from them.


     I'll find out, but my guess is that you'll have to order it.  I'm not
really sure you'll need to, I _think_ the tracks will be My Medicine and
Motion, which are on the tape and will be on the CD.  If you're interested,
I'll see if I can get one sent to the Record Purveyor Nearest You.


|>If anyone has any suggestions for good targets for the single, I'd love to 
|>hear them.
|hmmm...actually, despite it being the track that appeared on _heart's lust
|in limbo_, "miranda" would make a good single in my opinion. it's a strong
|track and features all the changes that the band has gone through since get-
|ting rid of steve jones (specifically, brendan on drums).


     I agree.  I think Miranda is the best song for popularity's sake, but
My Medicine and Motion may be more attention grabbing, I don't know.  More of
what I meant by target (alright, ambiguous, my fault) was what targets are good
to promote alternative singles nowadays?  Basically I have no idea how the
"indie" bands manage to spread the word; which stations and stores to send
singles...Just rampant curiosity.


|>     Lynn's voice has improved a lot.  
|she's also done more interesting things with it. when she was with area, i
|felt that sometimes, she didn't use her full potential. this isn't quite 
|reaching that plateau either, but it's getting there. i agree with ken here:
|melt melt melt.


     :-)  I don't think you'd believe what gigs (practice, practice, practice)
is doing for her voice.  Lynn's voice with the control of Caroline Crawley.
     Eep.


[...]
|woj - frimmin on the jim jam froppin at the krotz - no, *he's* dennis....
-- 
							Ken.
[Mail&info via finger:  brownfld@uiuc.edu]  brownfld@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
From: VNOZICK@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (MasterMind)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Usage found for stickers!
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:59:14 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Thgere is a use for those damn annoying stickers in the box set after all. 
They would have been great to bring to the march in Washington DC last weekend! 
Several other stickers were prevalent there, but none with as much class as the 
KaTe-fem symbol.  Unfortunately, this occurred to me while I was already on the
bus heading down there.  C'est la vie.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Valerie Nozick             "Is there so much hate for the ones we love?
vnozick@eagle.wesleyan.edu      Tell me we both matter, don't we?"--Kate Bush 
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From: saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu (Saurav Misra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: just wasting time...
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:43:41 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


As for Tori Amos's (Back-)cover art, I found the disk sitting
right next to PIL's new "That What is Not" CD in someone's CD drawer...
 If anyone knows what the front cover of that disc looks like, you'll
realize why I was embarrassed...
Any feedback on the new Diamanda Galas? The CD pic makes her look downright,
uh...marketable. I hope no unfortunate Christian Muzak listeners misinterpret
the song titles in the back and buy the disc. "Where were you when my lord
was crucified!" - indeed.
P.S. Whoever said that the angels have Celtic voices...actually, most
Celts run a close second ;-)
 
Saurav Misra
(saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu)
 
---"Sitting here like wet ashes with x's in my eyes
    and drawing flies" - Soundgarden
---"And the greates of these is love? Hum?"-Wilde Silas Tomkyn
From: bq214@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ken Saintjohn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Homeground, IED, and Tori.
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:19:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




Ron Hill writes:
 
>I don't think anyone's mentioned what HOMEGROUND has to say about the
>new album:  The word at the moment is that the 'September-ish' target
>for the release of the new album still holds.  HOMEGROUND is told that
>the album is more or less finished, with a few bits and pieces to be
>done.  There is as yet no word on the first single.
 
 Ron how long ago did you receive the new 'HG'?  I have yet to receive
mine but then again this seems to happen all the time.  Being 3 or 4
hundred miles up the road from you it seems to take my issue 2 to 3
weeks longer to reach me.  Anyone else experiencing this staggered
delivery?
 
  Interesting news about the 'September-ish' target date, I'll be
keeping my fingers crossed!  Thanks for passing it on Ron.
 
  Think I finally figured out what it is about the new Tori CD I like
so much by the way, it's the kind of approach I would love to hear
KaTe get back into, the simplistic honesty that brought me to KaTe's
work in the first place...
 
 ................................//..............................
 .                        Saint\X/ohn (Ken)                     .
 . <ken@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us><{n8emr|nstar}!bluemoon!bsbbs!ken> .
 .                The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198)             .
 .    "I think quotes are very dangerous things!" KaTe Bush.    .
 ................................................................
From: toc@instance.com (Tim O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: my little babooshka
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:48:58 GMT
Organization: Instantiations, Inc., Portland, Oregon
X-Umcp-To: Love Hounds
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


REGARDING                my little babooshka
people:


Strange.  The use of the word babooshka in the context of the song was never
a mystery to me.  My mother, when we were all little tykes, used to call us
"babooshka" as a term of endearment.  Accent on the second syllable.  This
always confused me as a child because that's also what she called that scarf
she wrapped around her head.  I have no idea where she picked up this use of
the word.


Also, didn't Boris Badanov call Natasha babooshka from time to time?  Accent
on the first syllable.


to'c


--
"A typical long haired half mad computer programmer on a typical computer
keyboard with odd toys scattered conservatively about."
From: jezsik@px4.stfx.ca (Louis Jezsik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re:  Love-Hounds Digest #8.101
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:55:53 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Ahoy
Being new to this list, I have not caught up to wahat is
happenin' here.  One thing sure puzzles me though, "Who is Happy
Rhoades (forgive any spelling errors please) and Tori Amos
and what do they have to do with Kate Bush?"
	Disclaimer:  I am in a really small town ("How small 
is it?") in a sparsely populated region with only one radio station
("It's so small the "Top Forty Countdown" has only ten songs." and
they're celtic songs), I can't get MTV or MUCH MUSIC and the 
campus radio station thinks The Barenaked Ladies are a dance troupe.
From: brownfld@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth R Brownfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re:  Le Moon Seven Times Info/Update
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:26:08 GMT
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The following was created and performed by woj@remus.rutgers.edu:


|brownfld@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth R Brownfield) sez:
[...]
|>     I agree.  I think Miranda is the best song for popularity's sake, but
|>My Medicine and Motion may be more attention grabbing, I don't know.  


|i listened to the tape a feww more times and thought about it and decided
|that "her house" and "my medicine" were better tracks that "miranda". i
|dunno why either, but they just seem to be good together and also display
|those qualities i was talking about before (showcasing new strengths, etc).
|
|and what is the song "motion"? no song of that name appears on the tape i
|have. is this one of the new ones? or a renamed old one?


     What is the track listing on your tape?  There is indeed a song called
Motion that got on at least the tape I have.  Is your cassette label blue?
It may not include all of the studio tracks, but that's complete speculation.


|and "sweet magnolias" can be the followup power ballad. ;)


     No joke!  That's a favorite song of some of my friends.


[...]
|but hard, thing to do. but really, word of mouth is often the best - and
|in this case, the m7x has electronic dissemination at its disposal as 
|well...


     Huh?  Wot?  ;-)
     They're also working on constant gigging.  ;)/2


[...]
|don't let brant nelson hear you say that. he'll castrate you! ;)


     Uh-oh!  (Inside joke for fans of Heavy Metal, the movie.)


|woj - he's a long kebab through your ovaries - where's those angels...?
-- 
							Ken.
[Mail&info via finger:  brownfld@uiuc.edu]  brownfld@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
From: farrellj@aqua.pc.ocunix.on.ca (Farrel McGovern)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: just wasting time...
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:46:18 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu (Saurav Misra) writes:


> 
> As for Tori Amos's (Back-)cover art, I found the disk sitting
> right next to PIL's new "That What is Not" CD in someone's CD drawer...
>  If anyone knows what the front cover of that disc looks like, you'll
> realize why I was embarrassed...
> Any feedback on the new Diamanda Galas? The CD pic makes her look downright,
> uh...marketable. I hope no unfortunate Christian Muzak listeners misinterpret
> the song titles in the back and buy the disc. "Where were you when my lord
> was crucified!" - indeed.
> P.S. Whoever said that the angels have Celtic voices...actually, most
> Celts run a close second ;-)
 
   Actually, I said that if the angels have "angelic" voices, they almost 
certainly came from the Celts! As a Witch, Pagan, and Celt...I feel I am 
qualified to make this observance based upon the singing of Kate, Sarah and 
Loreena. Gee, nice that two of them are from Canada, too!
 
Blessed Be,
     Farrell
From: s.telford@ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Backmasking in Leave it Open
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:14:19 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, UK.
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




In article <65286@apple.Apple.COM>, vjmurphy%carina.unm.edu@lynx.unm.edu (Phred T. Platypus) writes:
> 
>    Could someone e-mail me the text of the backmasked message
>  from Kate's Leave it Open from the Dreaming album?  It's confusing
>  me.


It's not really a "secret message" at all: just "We let the wierdness
in" being sung backwards (Kate's quite good at this 8^) and played
back backwards. Actually, if you play the track backwards it soulds a
lot like "They said they were very ill..." which may or may not be
coincidence (hmmm...maybe it is a secret message after all....8^)


-- 
Scott Telford, Dept of Computer Science,      electric mail: s.telford@ed.ac.uk
University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK.
------ <wham!> "It's in the trees!" <wham!><wham!><wham!> "It's coming!" ------
From: saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu (Saurav Misra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: I do not!
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:28:44 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


mthorn@madvax.uop.edu writes:
"saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu(Saurav Misra) pontificates:"
 
I most certainly do not pontificate!
Well, maybe sometimes...I always thought I harangued. Heh heh... 
Anyway, I managed to get my hands on a free Wendy Mahary CD. I even
forget what the title of the damn thing is, but it's surprisingly good!
I especially enjoyed 
"How do I get over you"...quite an upbeat little ditty. Stylistically,
the songs are all over the place. Anyone else heard this?
Maybe female solo singers are coming back in vogue. Has anyone seen the video
for some tune called "Damn, I wish I was your lover"? I forget the singer's 
name, something Nelson maybe?
   As a last little rejoinder, may I suggest that Vickie, who we all know
has a radio show spotlighting female artists, play the new L7 record
(Bricks are Heavy) - I just heard it yesterday...egad! Heavyheavyheavy. My
head still hurts and there is a dent in the counter where I banged it.
Well, enough timewasting. 
saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu
(Saurav Misra)
From: relph@presto.ig.com (John M. Relph)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Record Collector
Summary: Kate Article
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:31:49 GMT
Organization: Space CUDets Int'l
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM






The current issue of _Record Collector_ magazine has a cover story
about collecting records of Kate Bush guest appearences, for example,
with Peter Gabriel, on soundtracks, and the like.  It seems to have
some good information.  But I'm no expert.


	-- John
-- 
If you are interested in joining an XTC mailing list,
drop a line to chalkhills-request@presto.ig.com.
From: MTARR@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: m7x targets in Brazil
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:21:12 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Hi!


Ken, if you're looking for radio stations to send the new Moon Seven Times
single to when it comes out, send one to WESU (e-mail for more info).  We
have quite a few singles in the new release rack and we're all encouraged
to play them with signs hung up all over the studio saying things like PLAY
THE NEW BIG HUNK O' CHEESE SINGLE. IT'S EDITED FOR YOU AND EVERYTHING.  And
people do. :)


Not to add more fuel to the How Many Versions of _Brazil_ Are There fire,
but there are two European versions, like I said before.  The list that was
posted in the last Digest only mentioned one.
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From: lionhart@netlink.cts.com (Jackie Zucconi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: A PG-13 Kate???
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:52:08 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine) writes:


> 
> Ever have one of those irrelevant little thoughts that just won't
> leave you alone....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A while ago, someone posted a Tori Amos review that described her as a
> "PG-13 Kate Bush."
> 
> 
> What the heck does that mean? If she's PG-13, what is Kate?
> G, PG? (I let my kids listen to her)
> R? (I don't think of her as pulling any punches)
> X? (Naw)
> 
> 
> Isn't this stupid? but like I said it keeps running through my head. I
> hate the media!
> 
> 
> -- 
> scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -- Stuart M. Castergine
> 
> 
> Wake the Witch!


I always thought of Kate as NC-17 personally......
                                    --- Lionheart


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From: tessi!john@nosun.West.Sun.COM (John Zimmer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: can the tori chatter
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:30:47 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Well, the Oracle of death-disco^H^H^H^H^H^H^H er, Delphi has spoken,
which must make it official.  I'm not volunteering to run a Tori
mailing list (no time and no experience with it), but I would certainly
subscribe if one got started.  Evan?




_____________________________________________________________
John Zimmer                         sun.com!nosun!tessi!john


	Irgendwo in der Tiefe gibt es ein Licht!
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From: UD137927@VM1.NoDak.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Tori Tour Help
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:58:52 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
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Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Arggh. I leave the net for not even a week and I find that apparently
Tori Amos tour dates have been posted and removed. If any kind gaffan could
email me any dates and places she's playing in the Minneapolis area (if any)
plus any other pertinent information it'd really be appreciated.


This'll teach me not to read gaffa religiously!
   <*slap* with wet noodle>
       <*slap* with wet noodle>


>>>>>  CTHULHU IN '92! -- Why vote for the LESSER evil?  <<<<<
In related news:  George Bush is the Anti-Kate. Details at 11.
David Henry/Rogue Fan Club/Chaos Anonymous (ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet)
                                          (ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu)
What was your question? --K //Thanks... for the memories. -- Rogue