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From: Juan.Mojena@p2.f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Juan Mojena)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Slimware Window Bridge
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:33:47 GMT
Reply-To: Juan.Mojena@p2.f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203.2 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24163

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 >> When I asked about a demo  of

 >> the Window Bridge, I was told that there was no need for
 >> a demo
 >> since blind people do not have Windows so why have a demo?
 >>
 >> Great logic, huh?

I'm legally blind but when I bought my computer it came with
Windows just like many other people.  If I had a demo I could, at
least, try to use it.

 > I have windows, but I don't like taking the windex to them.
 > Bill, have you used any of Syntha-voice's products yet?

He couldn't, he didn't have a demo.

 > Bill, what colour would a choking smurf turn?
 > Bill, are Cheerios really baby donuts?
 > Bill, if you were in a car, travelling at the speed of light, and you
 > turned on your headlight, would anyone be home??

These comments aren't helpful.

 > My apologies Bill, if this sounds harsh, and we've all struggled big
 > time with our hardware/software configs, but unless you live in a
 > shit house you shouldn't throw bumwad.
 > Criticize a product, after you've taken it for a test drive.

Test drive, how could you do that THERE ISN'T A DEMO to take a test
drive with.  I'm dying to try this product but with all the
complaints I've heard of people who haven't gotten their order
after waiting  for a month, I think I'll wait for someone else to
write a Windows reader.  Your comments don't help me make up my
mind either.

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From: Greg.Wick@f45.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Wick)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Transportation
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:18:42 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Wick@f45.n343.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/45 - The French Connecti, Edmonds Wa
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24259

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

I like lowering the floor, a roof extention can make a van top
heavy, plus looks bad I think. A mini van would be the best I
think. I think I heard Crysler was the only mini van that can have
the floor lowered, but that was the dealer too.

Put the ramp on the side. That way you can get out on the sidewalk,
not the road. There is a new ramp I want when I get a new van. it
lowers the side of the van itself, then the ramp comes out and you
drive up. Rather then it lifting you up. No hidrolics or chains.
Faster, cleaner looks, easier, less of a chance of falling off the
end or getting stuck.

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 * SLMR 2.1 * Be alert, the world needs more lerts......

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From: Jeff..Hawkinson@f299.n115.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Hawkinson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Ham Radio Operators
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: Jeff..Hawkinson@f299.n115.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:115/299 - Eye Resources Netwo, Des Plaines IL
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24200

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I am wondering if there are any ham radio operators out here on
this bulletin board.
If there are any, I would like to get the share ideas on radio
communications.
So drop me a line or two and let me know you are out there. By
looking as some of the posted names, I recognized several names.
I hope to hear from some hams very shortly.

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From: Allison.Cozzi@f3216.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Allison Cozzi)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: post nasal drip
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:56:41 GMT
Reply-To: Allison.Cozzi@f3216.n161.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/3216 - Computer Communicat, Concord Ca
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24313

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

-> Did anyone else develop a clogged sinus/post nasal drip condition aft

     You set some bells ringing for me, Alan. So I thought I would offer
this up for your thought.
     Last year, I had several  rips in the dura surrounding the spinal
cord. As you know, the dura surrounds the entire spinal cord and the
brain so it remains a "closed system", as it were. In my case, when I
had the tears to deal with, I dripped spinal fluid for three weeks.
Because the path of least resistance was out the new incision midline on
my back, that's where it dripped out...right out the incision and down
the small of my back. HOWEVER (You knew I was going somewhere with this,
didn't you?) after I had the surgery to repair the tears in the dura, I
was put in a room at UC San Francisco with a woman who had been leaking
spinal fluid VERY SLIGHTLY since she had had some kind of brain surgery
the year before (I think it was a tumor but that doesn't matter to the
story here.) She said the reason it had taken her so long to mention it
to her doctor (a year) was that she thought she had a chronic post nasal
drip  becasuer it just dripped down the back of her throat and,
sometimes would drip from her nose.
     Is it possible that this may be related to what you are
experiencing?
                                                    Allison

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From: Joyce.Lyons@f210.n232.z1.fidonet.org (Joyce Lyons)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: epidural pump
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:09:06 GMT
Reply-To: Joyce.Lyons@f210.n232.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:232/210 - The Lyons Den, Pekin IL

Index Number: 24011

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 DV>  Two weeks ago they did an epidural with .03 mg. MS and
 DV> she got some relief.
 DV>  Now they want to implant an epidural pump. My question
 DV> is, Should she? anyone out there have one? what are
 DV> the pros and cons?

First of all, have you seen a specialist?  If so go ahead and do
the epidural pump.  We have heard of a fentyl pump and a morphine
pump, which they want to put in my husband.  If there is any way
possible, I would really like to talk with you over the phone, in a
letter, or over the phone.  Could you please leave an address &/or
phone # to reach you?  My husband has RSD which is a nerve disorder
which causes A LOT!! of pain.  We tried the lumbar blocks and got
very little relief.  But again if the epidural blocks gave relief
do the pump.

                                Hope to hear from you SOON!!

                                             Joyce

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From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Support Groups
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:17:17 GMT
Reply-To: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24253

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message to Ed Madara <10 Aug 92 10:24> Allison Cozzi wrote:

 AC>     Somehow, your message ended up in the proverbial bit bucket as I
 AC> never saw it until I saw it quoted. You asked about self help support
 AC> groups for women who have a phsical disability or illness who want to
 AC> start a family. I would suggest that they contact the national
 AC> association (if there is one) that applies to their case. I have a
 AC> feeling that they may be able to stear these women in the right

Two books....

PARENTING available from Accent publication, boxx 700, bloomington, ind.

SEXUAL ADJUSTMENT: AGUIDE FOR THE SPINAL CORD INJURIED also
available from Accent.

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From: Greg.Pickering@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Pickering)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Need sports activity
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:35:50 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Pickering@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL
X-Fidonet: Abled Athlete Conference

Index Number: 24007

[This is from the Abled Athlete Conference]

EH>I need to find organized sports activities with people in similar
EH>situation to stoke the competitive fires again.  My doctors told me that

        Hi Ernie! Ever think about swimming? diving?

EH>unless technology catches up I will not be able to walk by the time I'm
EH>30.  I cannot seem to accept that.  However, if that is the case, I want
EH>to find something to keep me going until it is no longer an option.

        Ernie, if the above don't suit your taste & you must use a
        w/c in the future, there's w/c basketball, volley ball,
        racing etc...

EH> * Origin: Home of the WordPerfect & Real Estate Echos (1:266/21)

        Just how close are you to me here? Ask Sheila Fava for other
        suggestions. She's swims competitively and destroy's her
        competition! :) She hosts the Rime Disabled conf, as well as
        ADAnet sports and another conference.

EH> * QNet3 *  Pick's Place * v32/v32bis * HST/16800 * 2017650164 * 24 hrs *

        This is where I am, where are you?

-Pick
===
 * DeLuxe/386 1.25 #188sa  DISABILITY: Dynamic Indefatigable Super ABILITY!
 * QNet3 *  Pick's Place * v32/v32bis * HST/16800 * 2017650164 * 24 hrs *

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From: Peter.Deafy.Haskins@f37.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Peter "Deafy" Haskins)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: tdd directory
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:26:16 GMT
Reply-To: Peter.Deafy.Haskins@f37.n342.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/37 - Deafy's First Post , Stony Plain Alta
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24276

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 > Peter,

 > Have you heard of the 1992 INTERNATIONAL DIRECTORY FOR TEXT TELEPHONE
 > USERS, published by Telecommunications for the Deaf, Inc.?

 > It has numbers in every state, Canada and other countries for relay
 > services, businesses, educational services, financial services,
 > interpreting services, etc., etc., in addition to residential numbers
 > and addresses of deaf people.

 > It would seem to be a duplication of effort to compile one when one
 > already exists.  This directory is growing bigger each year.

 > You can obtain it from Telecommunications for the Deaf, Inc.
 >                        8719 Colesville Road, Suite 300
 >                        Silver Spring, Maryland 20910

 >                        301-589-3006 (tdd)
 >                        301-589-3786 (voice)
 >                        301-589-3797 (fax)
 >                        301-589-0382 (T/V)

 > for $20.00.

 > They publish a newsletter that comes out quarterly and is called GA-
 > SK.  Membership for the newsletters, directory and your own listing
 > in the directory is an annual fee of $15.00.

Yes I do indeed but there are many missing nbrs and I am trying to get all nbrs including all other places as I feel a TDD directory for Deaf travellers is a must ... The TDI phone directory is too big to carry ...

:-)

Regards,
Peter "Deafy" Haskins
Deafy's First Post Office

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From: patt@squid.tram.com (Patt Bromberger)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Files Now Available!!
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:16:48 GMT
Reply-To: patt@squid.tram.com (Patt Bromberger)

Index Number: 24079

[This is from the Holistic Discussion Group and was originally from
 ST9996@SIUCVMB.BITNET]

Hello fellow-netfriends!

This letter is to inform everyone that files are now available on
HOLISTIC. There are only four files up at this point in time, but
more are coming soon. Computing Affairs here helped me out with all
the details and I'm glad to see it all works. However, if anyone
notices anything funky, please send me some mail and I'll give the
problem my attention (and maybe also give it to Computing Affairs :-> )

One of the files that was compiled by Brian Bentz, the BOOKLIST, is
not online yet because I have more books to add to it. So, if you
have other books that you have personally read, and feel fit within
the scope of this list and it's kind subscribers, send me some
personal E-mail and I'll add it to the list.

INSTRUCTIONS:
============
Send a message to LISTERV here with the command "INDEX HOLISTIC"
Select the file you want, and then send "GET filename type"
(For instance, GET ACTION FDA).

Thanks everyone! I appreciate everyone who helped out.

Curt
From: Julia.Rucker@f8.n291.z1.fidonet.org (Julia Rucker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: want old box
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:27:49 GMT
Reply-To: Julia.Rucker@f8.n291.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:291/8 - Wichita BBS 2, Wichita Ks
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24283

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

I don't know where  you are at, but if you have access to a Sam's
Wholesale Club, you can buy the newest little one for $98. This is
the one you have to have some other form of tuner, whether in a
VCR, Cable box, Satellite box, as it does nto have a tuner of it's
own, and it is very small and portable. The older models are very
large and the oldest one is also kinda heavy.

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen Reader
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:40:46 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24181

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to Gary Petraccaro <29 Jul 92 22:35> David Tanner wrote:

 DT> I have no desire to leave the impression that users
 DT> know what is always best for them when it comes to computer
 DT> software, and blind users of access technology don't have
 DT> any particular magic that make them better judges of what
 DT> is good speech software and what is not.

Hello, David!

I can certainly echo that sentiment.  As a Systems Programmaer on Vax
mainframes with the Bonneville Power Administration, I can certainly
testify to the fact that Users often don't know what the heck they want
and they end up telling you what they *really* wanted the third time
around rather than thinking out what they wanted/needed before the
programming process starts.  In their defense, though, they often do not
know what is possible.  I would expect that these same problems occur re
design of speech-access software.

 DT> My hope is that IBM will come up with
 DT> a product for OS2 that is so
 DT> easy to use, so user friendly, and provides such complete
 DT> access to OS2 and Windows that we will truly feel that the
 DT> speech software has become transparent to our use of a
 DT> computer.  Unfortunantly, their present attempt comes no
 DT> where close to doing any of the above, and is one of the
 DT> most difficult speech software products I have used with MS
 DT> DOS.  It is almost imposible to set it up for DOS use
 DT> without getting some wierd problems that you won't
 DT> experience with other speech packages selling for one
 DT> eighth the price of Screen Reader.

I cannot personally comment upon IBM Screen Reader, either for DOS or
OS/2, as I have not used it/them.  However, I have heard the criticisms
you level at it from others.

My purpose is not to comment on this but rather to opine that I doubt
there ever will be a package that is *completely* transparent to the
user.  For one thing, different users seem to want different things
spoken.  For another, vendors of applications software seem to
continually come up with fancier and fancier doodles and methods of
information presentation that the purveyors of speech-access software
(or Braille-access software, for that matter) must deal with.  They'll
always be a step and a half behind.

Perhaps the standard Windows environment will change this; I have my
doubts.

Cheers!

Mike Freeman
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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From: John.Hargrove@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org (John Hargrove)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: General Interest
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:10:53 GMT
Reply-To: John.Hargrove@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/68 - Diabetes Discussion, Austin TX
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 24227

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

In a message to John Hargrove <08-12-92 13:08> Shari Messner wrote:

SM> Maybe that will be the answer.  Our weather has been hot and now
SM> HUMID.

Ours too.  We've been in the high nineties all summer but our humidity has
 been around 75 to 95%.  Has made the phatom pain something else to tend with.
 Mine is more of I feel my foot and want to crack my ankle like I use to.  Also
 I get pains like I have before the surgery and they where bad.  My amputation
 is due to 40 years of diabetes and my system is just falling apart.  Had clots
 in my leg that could not be cleared by any means.  They'd tried but the clots
 came right back.  Pains where tremendous.  Doc walk in and he didn't even get
 the words out before I ask him when could they take it off.  Was glad he could
 get to it as early as he did.  Well that's a bit of my history.

SM> I don't know anything about diabetes neuropathy.  Sounds like you

Diabetes neurpathy is where the glucose (surgar) in one systems ataches itself
 to the nerve ending, in short.  Basically there are two stages: 1) highly
 senstive feeling and 2) no feeling.  Even though it is a bit dangerous I am
 about ready for number 2 to come along.

SM> JH>Sounds like he is.  We have a few 80 year olds in our
SM> JH>amputee support group. They're fun to be around.
SM>
SM> Aren't they fun.  He has such a great twinkle in his eyes and loves

They are the grandparents of all of us in our group.

SM> Warm fuzzies

Warm fuzzied to you to.

John

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From: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Pike)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen Reader
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:10:31 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/49 - Calliope's Den, Garrison NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24225

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Rick,

 RA> How will they get around the fact that screen reader uses a seperate
 RA> keypad when designing a demo?

The OS/2 version of Screen Reader has an optional keyboard based
keypad, so it can be used without the hardware keypad at all.  I've
only used the DOS version of the keyboard based keypad, so I'm not
sure exactly how the OS/2 version works.  The DOS version that I
experimented with used regular keyboard keys for input, as opposed
to the keypad.  I'm not sure which keys the OS/2 version uses, or
if the keys can be reconfigured to work with the numeric keypad.
I'll look into it.

 RA> keypad when designing a demo?  Have you ever looked at Jaws?  There is a
 RA> demo available here and on other boards if you haven't.  One of Jaws

Yep, I've played with JAWS quite a bit, and the demos are available
on my board as well.  <grin>

 RA> have never tried the program, but there is something about having to use
 RA> a seperate keypad that just doesn't really attract my attention...

The seperate keypad has been argued quite a bit, both inside and outside of IBM.  I thought it was quite annoying when I first started using it, but I've become accustomed to it.  There are advantages and disadvantages to the seperate keypad.  The biggest advantage is that it doesn't cause conflicts with software packages, and the biggest disadvantage is that you have to take your hands off the keyboard to use it.  I guess it all depends on personal preference, but Screen Reader can now be used either way.




Thanks for the input...

/Greg

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From: Bob.Eagly@f21.n3619.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Eagly)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: RSDS
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:29:06 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Eagly@f21.n3619.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3619/21 - Inner Sanctum, New Port Richey FL

Index Number: 24149

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

I had a operation in 1987, on my wrist that did not fix the
promblem. I was find for aprox 2 years and then while working, I
reinjured my wrist, while digging. And then went thur another
operation in 1990, I have been having burning pain since, I also
complain about the weather changes and ai times I could not
tolerate ceiling fans. The combination of burning and shape pains,
The doctor sent me for a therogram and that is when it showed
up.(Apr 10, 1992). Then again around the first week of this month,
I had another thermogram done, only to be told the same thing. I
can maintain part of the pain with the tens unit, I have it on
about 12 to 16 hours a day. When I use it I am able to sleep a
little better. And without it, I wake up all during the night with
alot of throbing pain. That goes all the  up to my head.

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Blinks And Psychedelics
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:42:05 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24185

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi, guys!

Guys were always trying to get me to drop acid in college to
answer the same questions:  would I see funny colors or feel them
or feel sounds, etc?  (I remember one article about LSD in late
1965 that said one experimental subject "felt" Beethoven in the
air).

I never did it.  I should imagine that since one never saw colors
etc. (that is, if one were totally-blind or had only light
perception) one wouldn't see them under acid or psylocybin or
payote.  However, since acid, at least, is akin to other
neurotransmitters and seems to affect transmission of nerve
impulses, I would guess that a blind person *would* feel music as
touch if he would have done so as a sighted person in that loss
of vision would not affect the sense-scrambling that occurs
occasionally with acid, at least.

Those who saw colors once, however, might see them.  Those who
never saw them might not recognize them if they came up.

I know two blind guys that smoked pot:  one said it did nothing
for him except make him hungry/drowsy; the other one said it
really made him feel good.  Ah yes, and there was a third blind
guy who, unbeknownst to him, ate half a batch of happy cookies
(he didn't know they were other than regular brownies) before he
went into the hospital to have one of his eyes enucleated and he
didn't need tranks the whole time -- he was high from the time he
went in until he got out! {grin}

Mike Freeman
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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