From: gt1619a@prism.gatech.EDU (James is just this guy, you know...)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: PC and Mac OEs (was Re: 1 Thing Windows can do but OS/2 can't.)
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:06:17 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <Bs5Iv0.2KH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
>
>>In article <SXMRP.5.0@orca.alaska.edu> SXMRP@orca.alaska.edu (Michael R. Platzke) writes:
>>>
>
>>You miss the point here. The Mac had an excellent OS from day 1. Windows,
>>in a 'workable' release only made it in 1989 with Windows 3. Mac owners
>>don't need another choice. The Mac is nice and cuddly as is and always
>>has been.
>
>In YOUR opinion!  Not everyone likes not having a CLI.  In MY opinion the
>MAC is really limited because of this.  When they have an OS where I can
>change directories, look at directories, and run stuff from a command line
>then I might switch.  The user interface is nice, but you shouldn't be limited
>to it.  By the way, I hate windows also, I use OS/2 2.0.  I just hate MAC stuff
>more, because of their price, user interface, etc.  I do think the motorola
>chips are probably better thou. :(    A large part of the
>time I have a text window open working on something.

A CLI can, in some instances, be very very nice indeed. Personally, I have
two machines, an Amiga 3000 and a Mac SE/30. I also use quite a few Sun IPXs
here at Tech. Somethings on the Mac are tremendously frustrating and compilcated
by the UI where it would be so simple on the CLI. It would just be nice if you
could even have a choice on the Mac.

I like X on the IPX machines, though it does seem kind of kludgy it is quick
(better be). I tend to use the Amiga more and more though and the Mac would
probably fade away if my dad didn't use it for word processing. On my Mac,
responding to mail articles involves some rather drab keystrokes, but on my
Amiga, I highlight the message I want to respond to, it shouts "Flame Away!",
invokes the word processor while selecting and playing an appropriate musical
selection, and when I'm done typing it transfers my file from the word processor
back across the network and onto the Usenet with a hearty "That's showing them!"

Overly dramatic maybe, but it's one of the things that makes the computer fun
and keeps it all from getting mundane. And a CLI does help in tracing the
REXX scripts and editing 5 and six line scripts, sending messages to my various
aplications, et cetera. A CLI is an essential tool and one sorely lacking on
the Mac.

One more thing, I do believe the Mac has the nicest looking UI, though a careful
selection of color schemes and patterns can give it a run for it's money under
Amiga Intuition 2.0. The Mac also has the most consistent UI, whereas the
Amiga has the easiest and most customizable one, and X Windows has got to be
the most portable. Windows strength is, I believe, in that people can run it
on their old machines without having to buy entirely new ones or entirely
switching their way od working.

Just my $0.02.

>
>Todd
>tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
>
>>>-Michael R. Platzke (sxmrp@orca.alaska.edu)
>
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