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From: scott@ne3005.reston.ingr.com (Scott Gentry)
Subject: Re: Unlikely Hero: Brian Mitchell
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Reston, VA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 23:15:53 GMT

bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson) writes:

[large quote deleted]

>Better not forget that you have to play the Eagles first.  It is pretty 
>stupid to talk about a game two weeks into the future and forget about your
>next opponent.

I'm a fan.  I don't have to remember the Eagles.  I know the Cowboys won't
forget the Eagles.  It's pretty stupid to think _they're_ looking past Philly.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:54:31 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Divisional playoffs passer ratings
	<C0pAuv.1wM@acsu.buffalo.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 11-Jan-93 Re: Divisional
playoffs pas.. james e kist@acsu.buffal (5660)

> And Marv Levy says he will put in Kelly as soon as he is healthy. My
> question to Marv is, why? Kelly has had less than an impressive year, and
> Reich's playoff performance has been outstanding. Stay with Reich--he's
> great under pressure. Kelly is terrible under pressure. What would you do?


do you really want an answer to this? IMNSHO, it's because Levy is not a
very good coach. With the talent the Bills have they should have won
both SB's but Levy's lack of coaching skills and sheer dim-wittedness
has kept it from happening. This, to me, seems exactly opposite of what
happened to Denver, they had great coaching, but the players couldn't
perform up to the coaches' game plans.

just my opinion, of course.

--Vernon.
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles Victory...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 16:57:37 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
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In article <103612@netnews.upenn.edu> sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja) writes:
 >
 >BRING 'EM ON......
 >All you dallas fans must be sweating han!!!

Think again homey, Emmitt gonna romp and Emmitt gonna stomp.....
I guess that thrashing we gave you on Nov 1 slipped your mind, 
Emmitt 163 yards, Play like yesterday and it's gonna be a long 
long day...Hell in the first game we turned the ball over four times
and were still in the game late.

DALLAS COWBOYS
NFC EAST CHAMPIONS
RESTED AND READY !!!!
tim
From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Lambeau Field question
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:36:14 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In article <1993Jan7.164428.6125@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> bermes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Terry Bermes) writes:
>	I've recently heard some rumors related to Lambeau Field that
>I was hoping someone more in the know could respond to:  The rumors
>are that the Packers have asked the city of Green Bay to put some sort
>of a dome on Lambeau Field and that the city of De Pere has offered to
>build a stadium for the Packers.  Can anyone substantiate either of
>these rumors?
>
>terry

First of all I haven't heard about a dome in quite some time, at least 5
years. From my understanding the Packers are not intrested in a dome.
The Packers have built a nice indoor practice facility, and they have
added sky boxes to the Lambeau. There has been talk of more sky boxes, but
not in the near future. As for DePere building a DOME? Not a chance, heck if 
think Green Bay is small you have never been to DePere, and I woudn't 
even call it a suburb.

The only Stadium talk in Wisconsin is a new Brewers Stadium. Where the 
the Packers would play a few games. But that would never be domed.
I think Wisconsinites have some thing against domes.

Ken
-- 
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 Why that Alias? From the Movie Dr. Strangelove.
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From: rweisbe@starfleet.nswc.navy.mil (Bob Weisbeck)
Subject: New Labor Agreement and present contracts
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:59:19 GMT

  If a player signed a multi year contract at the beginning
of this season and has 5+ years in the NFL is he now released
from that contract to become a free agent.  I would think that
he would have to wait until his present contract expires.
From: macole@wam.umd.edu (The Dude)
Subject: Re: Cowboys/Eagles will be a tough one
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:24:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.163111.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> asif@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>Cowboys Eagles game, my thoughts.
>================================
>
>This will be a tough ball game for both the teams. For Dallas the key will be
>stopping the run , Sherman looked good against New Orleans. It will be good for
>Dallas if Haley can get some penetration on third down passing situations. For
>Eagles, they have to STOP Emmitt, both as a runner and a receiver in the back
>field. Emmitt can be dangerous on a one on one situation in the back field.
>Randall will have to scramble succeessfully and not fumble the football. 	
>think the game will be decided on who turns the ball over more than the other.
>Kicking game will be important. Maybe the game will be decided late fourth
>quarter on a Elliot field goal or a Sikahema punt return, who knows.
>
>As a Dallas fan I would have liked to see Minnesota or Redskins in Texas
>Stadium over the Eagles. Not because I am scared of Eagles or anything but
>because these two teams match up very well. Both Dallas and Eagles will have to
>be at the top of their games to be succeessful this Sunday. We are very excited
>here in Dallas about our cowboys and we hope they win this weekend. Good luck
>to both the teams. May the best team win.
>
AWWWW C'mon...I want some bashing..."May the best team win"???  You're
softening up all that good mudraking and thrashing that I had to weed through
for days.  Next thing you'll say is "It's just a game..."!  

Take note...bashing scoring as follows...

Eagles fans -> 28 (some good comments about irrelevant subjects prominent in
		   the scoring)
Dallas fans -> 14 (you guys are too soft, this analytical stuff is keeping us
		   down...gotta be less fair..kill, kill, kill)

S.F. fans -> 7 (need more fan support on the net...you're letting these guys
		walk all over you)

Others -> who cares...AFC is irrelevant and I live with Skin fans...heard enough
	  from them.

This is my way of saying that the above article has good points and is the 
essence of competition..blah...blah...blah...blah.

Mario

By the way...where is Mr. Football Crap?  Hmm...I guess he enrolled in grammar
school.
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From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NFL - NFLPA reach agreement
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:46:02 GMT
Reply-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: NT/BNR

Seems that there is a news conference going on 
at the DFW Hilton in Dallas that reports the
NFLPA has ratified an agreement.

I only got the tail end of the report, but in
addition to what I did not hear, the highlights were:

One franchise player per team

Two players to whom the club has a 'right of first refusal'
	in '93
	One player in '94
	none from there on out.

Rookie wage scale. Teams to pay a maximum of $2M/year to
its rookie class.

Deal is good through the 1999 season.

Something about $195M to settle all law suits.

Player with 5+ years in NFl whose contracts have expired are
free agents (with the franchise and first-refusal exceptions.)


This is second hand, I'm unable to hear the news conference.
All of this taken from a 60-sec sports report on Dallas Radio KRLD.


Of course, I guess Al Davis could still tip the boat.


-- 
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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Re: Domes suck
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:02:36 GMT

In article <C0CHwL.CAo@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan )
writes:
>As a Viking fan I agree. I think the Vikes have lost their 
>edge after moving into the Dome. If u look into the history
>of the Vikes, their glory years in the 1970s, when they
>were in 4 super bowls, they played outdoors in the frigid
>Artic cold of Minnesota, where visiting teams have an 
>obvious disadvantage.  A good team, combined with hostile
>weather conditions to which only the home team is accustomed
>should make it a *lethal* combination.

Saturday would have been a lovely day for outdoor football in Minneapolis:
temperature of about ~25-30 deg F with freezing drizzle (I was driving by
Minneapolis around the time that the game was ending on my way back to IA from
ND). Imagine Salisbury throwing under these conditions......although the
weather might have caused Washington to drop those interceptions.....

I think the dome make sense for Minneapolis. The Vikes count on support from
fans that have to make trips of several hours (for myself, it is a 7 hour
round trip; for my folks in ND, it is a 12 hour round trip). The dome helps to
attract these fans, as it sort of guarantees that these people will have a
pleasant environment in which to watch the game.

The dome brings a nice advantage of its own...remember that Harbaugh audible
that a certain reciever didn't hear.

In Ames, we have a nice outdoor wind tunnel for Iowa State to play football
in. I enjoy watching games in that stadium. I also like to watch football in
the Metrodome. For me personally, I like to watch the game; I don't really
care where it's played.

-- 
Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: CRAP FOOTBALL STIKES AGAIN!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 19:11:03 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


>of couch potatoes.
>notice the use of the dan quale spelling of potato,know there's a clever
>guy.
>Hamish

Sorry Ham, but is not that they correct spelling of potato since it is plural?
I like it better with the 'e' anyway.

We now know where this is coming from because we all know, if it's not
	Scottish, IT'S CRAP!!

--DJD
We all know what happens when you put electricity in water....bye bye dolphins.
Go Derby County!!!!
From: dchou@husc11.harvard.edu (David Chou)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Delton Hall arrested for DUI
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:57:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.dchou.726533824
Distribution: na

god, good thing the Steelers released him, got rid of him, etc. :)
I remember one game where he took a really dumb penalty that
squelched any chances of a Steelers comeback...forgot what game it
was...anyone on the net remember???

							-Dave
From: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Seattle took Philly to OT?
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:41:34 GMT
Reply-To: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.


 Is it true that Seattle took the mighty Philadelphia Eagles to OT
 this year? How can you Eagle fans possibly be woofing about your
 team and how they're going to beat Dallas and such? This is
 ridiculous! 

 Dallas is 13-3. They had absolutely no problem with Seattle. All of
 their wins have been convincing. All of their losses have been close
 except 31-7 game vs. philly where it took 4 or 5 turnovers and Bill
 Bates running into Kelvin Martin (a lot of breaks) to get the lead
 and then at the end, Dallas just gave up and let Hershel run on them.
 Game 2 at Dallas was different. Neither team got breaks and Dallas
 pretty much just controlled the game. 

 The other two losses were the Rams (requisite blown game of the year,
 all teams including SF have em', even though this game still came down
 to the last play) and Washington. Washington was dominated in that game
 until the fateful, ridiculous, fumble call, which cost Dallas that game.

 Dallas has the number 1 defense in football. The number 2 overall offense.
 The number 1 rusher. The number 1 passer in total yards. The number 2 
 receiver in yards. The number 1 tight end in receptions. WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM!
 Please give us some credit. I mean can philly boast about being the better
 team when the have a worse record and are inferior in every major statistical
 category to Dallas? Let's be fair and at least acknowledge that Dallas is
 a good team, probably #1 or 2 in all of football right now.

 What's all the woofing about anyway. You beat the Saints in the opening round
 of the playoffs. EVERYONE beats the Saints in the opening round. Even Atlanta
 last year had that honor. And if not for gift interceptions by Hebert, that
 might not have even happened. Dallas will not fold up the tent like NO did
 in the second half this coming Sunday. If philly is to win they will need
 many breaks cause Dallas will be ready.
From: drums@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.e.wisnack.jr)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Neutral Zone
Keywords: Dallas/Eagles Games
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:56:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


Can someone please explain this rule to me.  In the Dallas/Eagles
game someone from Dallas jumped into the neutral zone, then an
Eagle jumped (Eagles had the ball).  The ref called offsides on
the offense, BUT if Dallas did this again, they would be called
for the penalty.  Is this in the rules, or do they make it up
as they go along. :-)

I'm not jumping down the refs back, I'm just trying to understand
what happened.


		Thanks

	-Bob
	-Go Big D !!!!!!

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From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:00:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Chargers dominate
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

So much for Kreig being the KC wonder boy.  I remember when KC got this guy
I had to read all the posts by KC fans saying he was the missing link to the
SB etc...DeBerg was miles ahead of this guy.  After what KC has done to the
Raiders the last couple years I'd say the shutout was justified.
From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Subject: Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:04:49 GMT

In article <1igfesINNs6v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan6.131408.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>>Real men play soccer
>
>for AC MILAN
>
>>Hamish
>
>--DJD
>

Nope. Bayern Muenchen! The british and Italians are minor leaguers.

Tony (go san diego) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills Suck
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:29:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

In article <1993Jan04.120107.51@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> chris@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM writes:
>In article <1993Jan1.032425.5849@math.ucla.edu> rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
>>I hate the Bills.
>>
>>Houston: 98
>>Buffalo: 0
>>
>>I used to be a Bills fan, but if the players on the team
>>don't care, then why the hell should I ?
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)
>>
>>The meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.
>
>   You jumped ship..........don't come back!
>
>Chris   a Bills fan

Ron, are you the type of guy that would sell industry secrets to Japan? 
--Jim
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:47:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Vikings comments
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>AND, there was nothing sexual intended, queer boy.  I'm sure that some of the
>other people that came to my defense about the sexist remark wish that morons
>like you would just leave us alone.

You are probably the most insulting, homophobic jack-ass moron I've ever
seen post to this group.  My remarks have nothing to do with any aledged
sexist remark you may have made.  My remarks are based on your vulgar email.

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From: rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN)
Subject: Re: Kelly
Originator: rdarnese@c00504-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:33:03 GMT


  No he will not play in the Pitt game but may see action in the Champ
game(if they get there).  It really is day to day with him.
From: scsd1055@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Steve Walsh deal
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:35:49 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

>From: CCP17BK@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU (Bill Kelly)
>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:01:00 GMT
>
> [In article <1993Jan4.193904.16603@micom.com>,
> [jscott@micom.com (James Scott) writes:
> [
> [in sort of a related issue ... do saint fans consider it a good trade?
> [i mean, if walsh was really THAT good ... why isn't he playing?
> [
> [btw, i consider JJ to be one shrewd judge of talent and am just wondering
> [if this trade was a total bust, or what?
> [
> [thanks, 
> [
> [james
> [
>As far as I'm concerned, that trade was one of the dumbest things
>Jim Finks has done while with the Saints.  Don't get me wrong -
>overall, I think Finks and Mora have worked miracles for us.  But
>Walsh was (like Torretta is) another over-rated Miami quarterback,
>Johnson knew it, and he took us to the cleaners.
>
>Maybe next year, guys...
>Bill

	Ditto!  I rank the Walsh trade right up there with the Hershel Walker 
trade (Dallas to Minnesota).  Dallas got a #1 in 91, #2 & #3 in 92 plus other
players (I think) for Walsh. People point to the Walker trade as being the down
fall of the Vikings, but I have a feeling that we here in NO will be suffering
the same fate next year when our older players begin to retire, and the
Saints have no young blood to fill those vacancies.
	Hey...Steve Walsh makes a hell of a clipboard holder though don't
ya think?

	As far as Torretta goes...  I too think he's over-rated.  He did
not improve his worth in the Sugar Bowl.  I think the only NFL worthy
characteristic he has is his willingness to stand in the pocket and take
a lick, which he did time and again in the SB.  Other than that...I wasn't
impressed.

Bill P
- Geaux Saints
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From: fvaughn@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Frederick Vaughn)
Subject: How Bad Is...?
Keywords: cardinals
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:18:44 GMT

How bad an owner/executive/all-that is Bill Bidwill? Explain.

FRED
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From: richard@ods.com (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Re: Dallas! (and SF)
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:39:05 GMT

4E150M (dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM) wrote:
: >
: >- NO flames from the SF fans, because I lived there for the last 3
: >years.  The turf at Candlestick is an embarassment.  Just like

: The 49ers have been playing there since 1970.  Right now the Giants
: (yeah, baseball) have pretty much final say over what happens at
: the Stick - since they are the primary tenant.  Don't count on
: the City coming up with any money to change things, since they
: like many large cities, are broke.

: >California drivers in the rain.  I don't understand how a club with as
: >much money as the 49'ers have cannot get a decent drainage system
: >installed there.  Simply pathetic.  I hope things dry up a bit (at
: >least) before the title game.

: Not!  It is going to be MUD, MUD, MUD.  Come on down, Cowboys!

I hear it's more like KITTY LITTER, KITTY LITTER, KITTY LITTER.

What is that shit that they put on the field anyway?  They use the money
that they would save on that drying agent to build a better drainage 
system.  By the way, this is the week where keeping Cofer for the
whole year comes back and bites you guys in the ass.

Go Cowboys!

And to J. Gloria, the man with two gutless predictions for this weeks
game.  Either 35-31 Cowboys or 37-17 49ers?  Don't stick your fucking
neck out too far.  This only shows how much you fear the Cowboys, and
believe me, you should.

Here's a real man's prediction:

Cowboys     24
49ers       21

-- 
Richard Thompson
richard@ods.com 
From: gregb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Begay)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:20:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Dan Reeves has been fired!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro


>>Why do you think Shanahan will be the next coach?  What makes you think
>>he'd want to leave a winning <gulp> team?  They never should have let Dan go
>>look what happened to the Cowboys!!  Dan is one of the best!  Broncos will have
>>it tough for a while, I can tell you!  Go Broncos!!!
>>Sheila Cobb/Dave Segal
>>
>Shanahan is clearly the front-runner for the job, with Wade Phillips a
>close second.  First, Bowlen likes Shanahan a lot.  Reeves' firing
>Shanahan may be the biggest reason Reeves was canned.  At Bowlen's
>press conference after the firing, he stated that Shanahan was the one
>he wanted, but that he had not discussed the position with Shanahan,
>and was not sure Shanahan wants it (big laugh).
  
My *impression* is that the job is Shanahan's to accept or reject.
Shanahan gets along with *both* Bowlen *and* Elway - a must for the
next Bronco head coach. 

>Wade Phillips would probably be the better choice, but Bowlen said
>words to the effect (Oh, yeah....if Wade wants to apply I'll talk to
>him."  Too bad.  Phillips will not work for Shanahan, and Phillips is
>probably more responsible for the Broncos' wins than Reeves over the
>past few years.  Phillips is a defensive genius, and his defensive
>schemes have hidden the Broncos' personnel deficiencies for years.
 
"defensive genius"??????

Wade has done a good job but I wouldn't call him a genius.  Offenses
have been moving the ball with ease this year against Wade's defense.
The defense was supposed to be "dominant" this year.  The defense could 
not protect leads against the Seahawks and Cowboys.  I'll never forget 
the whipping the Denver defense took from the 49'ers in the last SB 
Denver was in.

I hope Shanahan get the job and brings some of that 49'er "magic"
to Denver.  

>Jim McMaster
>----------

GregB
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