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From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: kneading
Date: 13 Jan 93 01:07:11 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs


In article <1ivo4iINNt4u@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
|I've heard that cats knead because they have scent glands in their
|paw pads and they're "marking" whatever they're kneading as *their* 
|territory or property. Any truth to that?

I don't believe so.  Kittens knead their mothers while nursing
because it stimulates milk production.  As adults, they
translate this behavior towards their mothers into behavior
towards you, the motherly-human-food-source.  They're happy,
warm, content-- so they knead.  I think you can read about this
is Desmond Morris's _Catwatching_.

Head-rubbing is scent-gland related, though.  One particular corner
of my mom's refrigerator used to get FILTHY with cat-scent.  Her cats
would sniff the corner, get annoyed at smelling the OTHER cat there,
then rub to mark the fridge as THEIRS.

---
cj@eno.esd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"All sorts of people who don't know me and my many fine personal qualities 
say absolutely dreadful things about me.  What can you do?  Have them 
killed, of course, but that's *so* expensive." --Jon Carroll
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: schiles@valentine.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Subject: Re: Timing
Keywords: Heat, vet, hell.
Reply-To: schiles@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:27:18 GMT
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In article <1ig240INNe42@umbc8.umbc.edu>, ac999257@umbc3.umbc.edu
(ac999257) writes:
|>In article <1674@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM>
hack@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Elaine Hacklaender) writes:
|>>In article <1993Jan5.170619.2292@mtu.edu> jclannom@mathlab.mtu.edu (Joe
|>>
|>>C decided it for me.  He told me that a female cat goes into heat
|>>and stays that way until she mates.  he said that for a cat who
|>>doesn't mate, the time in heat could last up to 6 months and then 
|>>she could turn around and g right back into  heat again.  I'd never
|>
|>Can I have your vet's telephone number and address? I'd like to 
|>ask him about my experience with unspayed female cats. The two
|>I have in mind are both siamese, so they howl quite a bit while in
|>heat. Funny, but they didn't stay in heat for 6 months at a time.
|>They were in heat around a week every 6-8 weeks, as I recall. I
|>could be a little off, but no way did they *STAY* in heat. And with
|>a siamese cat, there is no shadow of a doubt as to when that cat
|>is in heat! Okay, no I am not a veterinarian. But I know my cats.
|>They were not in heat for six months at a time -- and no, they 
|>never mated. Are there any vets reading this that could clarify??
|>
|>Mary


Wasn't this topic addressed and answered a couple of days ago?  Some
cats do; some cats don't.  
                    
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From: mforget@elfhaven.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Michel Forget)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Excessive water drinking - and possible constipation
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:04:16 GMT
Reply-To: mforget@elfhaven.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Organization: Electric Storm Software
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Hi.

My cat seems to be drinking an awful lot of water lately, and going to the
litterbox a lot more often.  Sometimes it seems he is not doing anything in
there.  He goes in, waits ten seconds or so, and then leaves.

Is this an indicator that something is seriously wrong or is he just not
feeling well?

Any help would be appreciated.


-- 
--
Regards,

<<  -----------------------------------------  >>
<<    mforget@elfhaven.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca    >>
<<  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  >>
<<               Michel Forget                 >>
<<   The Key:  Spirit over mind over matter.   >>
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: srscnslt@telesciences.com (SRS Consultant)
Subject: Re: Low Magnesium Cat Foot?
Organization: TeleSciences CO Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:51:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.012221.5109@telerama.pgh.pa.us> kristen@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Kristen McQuillin) writes:
>ELISE MARIE MEYER (emm@voodoo.physics.ucsb.edu) wrote:
>
>: Does anyone know of any low Magnesium cat foods?
>
>My vet recommended Alpo in cans as the only off-the-shelf tinned cat
>food with an acceptable Mg level for post-FUS cats. Purina Special
>Care is the low Mg dry that I feed my cats, and they not only seem to
>be FUS-free, but they LIKE it!
>
>Science Diet and Iams both got the cold shoulder from Clothilde and Eliot.


	How does Fancy Feast compare in terms of nutrition?  That's the only
	canned food my troupe will eat, and they all (well, most of 'em) prefer
	that to the DeliCat that's always out for them.  I put out 1.2 cans of the 
	stuff per cat each day (5 cats, 2 cans AM, 4 cans PM).
-- 
Mitch Gorman		srscnslt@telesciences.com	emrys@cellar.org
"You can tell he's doing well by the look in inhuman eyes,
	Better not compromise -
		It won't be easy!"
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: declawing?
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:28:37 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.pets.cats, nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec31.184333.21913@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
>(Ruth Milner) writes:
>
>Speaking of Desmond Morris, one of his programs about feline behaviour was on
>PBS and there was a barnyard full of mother kitties and their babies.  It was
>real cute the way they showed the mom's helping with each other's kittens.
>Then they showed a tom cat who came upon some unattended kittens (who had
>previously been shown with their mothers).  He explained how toms will kill
>kittens who were not fathered by him--and then they showed the DEAD KITTENS.
>Good grief - what did they do - sit and watch this tom cat kill the kittens.
>It was too much for me.
>
>Did anyone else see this program?  While I know, and understand, the male cat's
>nature to kill another male's offspring, I couldn't help but wonder how or when
>that segment of the program was filmed.
>
>> Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
>> Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu

I've seen it twice and parts of it are very interesting others are part of
life that you really don't want to see.  When we were little we were always
told to keep the toms aways from the kittens because they would kill them.
It didn't matter if they fathered the litter or not.  I really found it
interesting yet hard to watch where the male lion killed the young from a
previous male in order for the female to come into hear.

Kepurr never had a problem with Tigger or Teal and they were both 8 weeks old
when we brought them home.  But he is neutered.  I will find out on the 15 of
Jan (for sure) if my baby (Lady Teal Mocha) is going to have kittens.  
If everything works out, I will soon find out for sure about males and kittens.
The kittens will NOT be anywhere Kepurr or Yogi (The dad) can get to them).
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 KEPURR        /|    TEAL      I]   syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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               U               []   Naval Surface Warfare Center
 TIGGER   ACK!THPTPHH!         []   Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000
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From: "barry schiele" <barry.schiele@canrem.com>
Subject: fill him out diet
Reply-To: "barry schiele" <barry.schiele@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:23:15 EST

The name of the product you mentioned is nutri-cal or nutri-vet. it is a
high calorie vitamin suplement available at pet food supply stores,
vets, and can also be picked up at most cat shows.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: klepto cat ... any suggestions?
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:00:17 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

hcrain@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Helen C Crain) writes:

>From article <726254881snx@n5ial.mythical.com>, by jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham):
>> one of the cats living at my dad's house has an interesting trait...seems
>> she's a bit of a kleptomaniac!

>And she'll probably stay one.  She's doing what comes
>naturally. "Interesting" probably gets to her as "amusing".
>Your dad is lucky she keeps it in the family.  Mine picked
>over the whole neighborhood.  Much more embarassing!.....But
>still amusing!
>-- 
>Helen C. Crain             hcrain@convex.csd.uwm.edu 
>UWMilwaukee Nursing                   Wisconsin, USA
>"There is more of good nature than good sense at the
>bottom of most marriages"    HD Thoreau

 This is really funny--to stop it I guess we need to
know what kind of stuff, stuffed animals, clothing,
plastic what. A long time ago I grew up with a
cat Herman, and of course he was rather unique in his time.
He had a "thing" about yarn, at the time my mother
was an avid crocheter and knitter, and anytime she left
any yarn or anything made of yarn out where Herman
could find it (and believe me he would find it)
Herman would  take it around the house all night
moaning like he found a prize mouse and tangling it
up the stairs to my bed. He would keep doing it
till all the yarn was taken upstairs. My mother
literally had to buy this hassack with a lid and
she put books on top of it so Herman could not
get in it after she went to bed. Any other
yarn would be locked in a closet.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:26:12 EST
From: <SAS15@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cats and whistling

I happen to have a rather shrill whistle.  One day I was whistling along
merrily when my cat Marti (female tabby) came up and started sniffing my
face.  I thought, "Oh, isn't that cute!  She wonders where the sound is
coming from." Then, to my surprise, she bit my nose!  Obviously, this was
effective in getting me to stop whistling, but I am wondering if this was
her purpose.  Since then, I have noticed that whenever I whistle, she comes
running, meows at me, and--if she can reach it--bites my nose.
Alternatively, she rubs up against my legs or wrestles with her father,
Ferris.  Ferris has never bit my nose, and my whistling doesn't seem to
bother him.

I am wondering why Marti is doing this!  Is it that the sound hurts her ears
and she wants me to stop?  Or is it that she is just being affectionate?  I
don't want to hurt her, but why wouldn't Ferris respond in this way?  Any
insights?  Any similar experiences?  Thanks for you help!

Susan Stoner
Bitnet: sas15@psuvm
Internet: sas15@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Re: Squirrel Hunting Cat
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:46:50 GMT


Hi

Try tieing a bell on his neck ...
This will help to alarm the birds ....

george

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: R1156C@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael Dow)
Subject: Re: We've got our Maine Coon!
Organization: Motorola
Date: 12 Jan 1993 08:52:53 MST

  Congrats on your coon!

  I have one neutered male (17 lbs, named 'Dante') and am getting a female
this week.  Oh, I looooove my coon(s)!!!  And I love my jellicle and my
Bombay mix, too!

-M-
From: lcornell@stein.u.washington.edu (Linda D. Cornell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: I'm getting a new kitten....I'm so excited
Date: 5 Jan 1993 22:42:04 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

After going 'round and 'round with my husband for almost a year, he
finally gave in!  He had been whining to me about wanting a newer
motorcycle, so I said...fine, as long as I can have my kitten...and he
agreed! 

I already have two cats - but they don't get along.  I've had Pandora
since she was a kitten - almost 8 years now.  I got Chantilly from the
pound after Merlyn passed away about 2.5 years ago.  I thought 'Tilly was an
older kitten, but it turns out she was an emaciated street-wise mom-cat. 
These two just never hit it off!  But I love'em both...what's a mother to do!

About a year ago 'Tilly started curling up with the sofa pillows and cleaning
them...I think she needed a kitten.  Now, finally she'll get one! 
Actually, neither Pand'a nor 'Tilly are really cuddly cats...and I
frequently get to missing "cat hugs" from my Merlyn - I know I won't get
another Merlyn, but maybe one that loves to be mauled by me ;) !

I'll keep you folks posted on what happens.  I'll probably be ready to "let
one find me" sometime late January...I'm sure I'll be posting asking for
net wisdom on making it a happy home for all my furballs!

I'm just so excited!  I almost can't wait!

Linda
lcornell@u.washington.edu

P.S.  I'm looking for a half-siamese, any color female - the half siamese
seem to work the best with our allergies.  If you're in the Pacific NW
area, and know of one that needs a home, drop me a line ;)!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: wgs@ashley.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bill Schutte)
Subject: Re: Cats and TV
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 14:27:22 GMT

In article <1ig8k1INNfh3@umbc8.umbc.edu>, ac999257@umbc3.umbc.edu (ac999257) writes:
|> I'd like to know if anyone else's cat does this. Carmen watches
|> TV. Seriously! She sits on the end of my lazyboy recliner in the
|> meatloaf position and watches TV for about 15 minutes at a time...


My DSH, Indiana, loves to watch nature programs and of all things,
the AKC Dog Show from Madison Square Garden.  We sat and watched
the entire dog show together...all three days.

Nature programs are a favorite I think because of all the action
of animals running around.  Indy often gets so excited he runs up
to the screen and swats at the animals.

His all time favorite though was a Coke commercial that had a promotion
for "fun money" and consisted of cars and money racing across the screen.
Whenever he heard the music for the commercial he would come running  to
the tv and would leap at the screen and try to swat all the cars and money.

Ashley, our DLH, is much too sophisticated for this kind of foolishness
and never even looks at the TV...I suspect she reads my books.  :)

Bill

-- 
Bill Schutte                 908/699-8977
From: McGuire@solbourne.com (Jim McGuire)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat static!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 14:14:48 -0700
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: solcat.solbourne.com


Colorado is a dry state, and I have found it absolutely necessary to
have a humidifier so the kitties don't get static zapped when I pet
them.

I've had all kinds - evaporative, ultrasonic, and "warm mist."  Each
has it's advantages and disadvantages.  I rigged an automatic refill
on the evaporative & ultrasonic ones, and they both seemed to work
okay.  The tank on the evaporative did build up a lot of gunk, and
probably had a lot of bacteria, but it definitely put the most moisture
into the air.  My plants really liked it!

The ultrasonic covered the tv screen and everything else with white
dust.  It was just barely able to humidify the same area that the
evaporative one had done easily.

Currently, I have the Bionaire CM-6 warm mist.  It has a very low
output, since it can only boil so much water at a time.  It also
is completely useless in the summer, since it adds so much heat
to the house that you really only want to use it when it is cold.
But during the winter the furnace dries the air out much faster
than the little unit can humidify.  I plan on installing a central
unit to my furnace, and maybe getting an evaporative unit for
the summertime.
-- 
Jim McGuire			Solbourne Computer, Inc.
McGuire@Solbourne.COM		1900 Pike Road
				Longmont, CO 80501
Speaking for Myself Only!	(303) 678-4311
From: ambar@cygnus.com (Jean Marie Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Maine Coon
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:05:52 GMT
Organization: Redheads Anonymous
In-reply-to: heather@cs.concordia.ca's message of 5 Jan 93 02:53:17 GMT

In article <5612@daily-planet.concordia.ca> heather@cs.concordia.ca (Heather Johnstone) writes:

   Could anyone tell me something about Maine Coon cats?

With great pleasure.  What do you want to know? :-)

Okay, okay, okay.  Let me wind up my cat-show spiel here...

The Maine Coon cat is one of the two oldest native American breeds, the
other being the American Shorthair.  Coons are one of the largest
breeds, females running from 8-10 pounds and males from 15-17,
generally.  They're a longhaired breed, but not long-all-over like a
Persian: they have a ruff, then short fur on the back and shoulders, and
as you work your way down the sides and back along the spine, the fur
gradually lengthens, to fluffy britches and long, magnificent,
expressive tails.  They come in any color except the Siamese (pointed)
patterns, although you'll most often see tabbies (particularly brown
tabbies) at shows.

They're gentle animals for all their size, and while they're not
particularly demanding, they like to follow you about the house to check
out what you're doing.  ("Hey, are there any important papers for me to
sit on?")  My youngest likes to sit on the monitor and observe while I
work, when she isn't trying to catch the words scrolling by on the
screen.  Or lie on my wrists.

I like them.  I breed them.  Any other questions, just ask. :-)

				AMBAR
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From: malwen@granta.demon.co.uk (Sheila Thomas)
Subject: Re: Amputation 
Distribution: world
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Reply-To: malwen@granta.demon.co.uk
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X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:44:16 +0000

I can assure you that my own dear Misty has managed wonderfully well for
nearly 2 years now with one front leg missing.
She had an accident, we don't know how, and by the time she was found
the wound to her paw was so bad that the vet could not save it.
He said she would have no use for the leg without the paw,
 so amputated from the
shoulder. I was horrified, but have been astounded at how quickly she
adapted to the situation.
Within a couple of days of returning from the vets she was jumping up
onto windowsills and chairs. She can run quite fast though her
 walking looks a little odd and is slowish. She loves to play but tend to roll onto
her side a lot so she doesn't have to worry about balancing.


-- 

__________________________________________
Malwen                             

..even snails get there in the end.
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From: ardavan@boris.carleton.ca (Ardavan Tajbakhsh)
Subject: Re: Fill Him Out Diet
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:59:28 GMT


   Make some chicken dishes for your cat.  You can boil some chicken in
water with potatoes, onions and spices and then mash some of the potatoes
and onions as well as some of the chicken pieces and pour a little of the
broth on top of it to give to your cat.
 
   You can also broil some chicken (don't forget to baste it with its juices
so that it doesn't get dry or burned) and cut it up into bite-sized pieces
for your cat.  You can pick up a package of chicken legs (or back) at the
supermarket for a reasonable price.
 
   We're giving our cat Cleo that kind of food right now (and for a while
now) with some baby food on a separate plate.
 
 
                                          Ardavan <Ardavan@ccs.carleton.ca>
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From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: dry food,distilled water
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 19:37:37 GMT

>>One of my cats throws up alot but I think his problem is mostly
>>because he gets constipated and then throws up because he doesn't
>>feel good.  We have him on Metamucil for the constipation because
>>the high-fiber cat food didn't work for some reason (it was a
>>while ago and I can't remember why), and he gets sick less than
>>he used to. 
>>
>>Jamie
>
>
>Any cat that keeps throwing up despite measures you take could very
>well be a viral or bacterial infection.  A vet visit would certainly
>be in order if it persists.
>

We have taken this cat (Zak) to the vet many many times (he's very 
expensive for a free cat!) and the Metamucil was our old vet's
advice.  Our new vet has checked Zak out and said he's
fine but his colon may be larger than normal which would 
explain his constipation (they are so large its hard for this
kitty to get them out!).  The throwing up only occurs when
this cat is constipated (unless he eats the plants) so our 
vet said not to worry.  We are going to try other foods sometime
but last time they just made this kitty sicker (the other two
are always healthy no matter what they eat).


Jamie

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From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cats and Aeroplanes
Date: 12 Jan 93 04:58:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan12.045812.589
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <1993Jan11.171706.28979@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels) writes (reference peeping cats):

>I'd have been surprised if they had.  At 15,000' in an unpressurized cabin,
>chances are that they were mildly hypoxic.  That, and the constant drone of
>the engine, should be enough to lull them to sleep.  Or at least inactivity.

My mother rarely gets much over 5,000 or so in the Puget Sound area (not enough
time/space to do so) in her Piper Warrior, but Goldie has loved it from day
one. As Mom puts it, "It's just like a great big purring Mama kitty to her."
When Goldie is put into the kitty carrier for a trip on the plane, she settles
right down, starts purring and doesn't stop 'til she's let out at her 
destination.
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