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From: williama@kenyon.edu (GRYMBLE GRUMBLE)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: ROWDY RUCCUS AND ALL...
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:46:35 GMT
Reply-To: williama@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet

Hey,
    So sorry to get everyone riled up over my last post. I think a
lot of the sarcasm was misunderstood but I am to blame for that.
Firstly, I'll apologize to all I offended but I also want to add my 
own justification.
     
        Being a native a the rotten apple I have seen many things
take place. To say that scalpers are only hoodlums and junkies is
not to say the entire truth. Sure, it may be the majority but at
most of the shows I've been too (Phish, GD, BT, SD, BB, TMBG, etc.)
there have always been scalpers who stand on line with their own tickets
AND extras only willing to sell their extra to the highest bidder.
I suspect this will happen at Roseland as it has happened at ANY show
I have ever been to in the city. Some people are out to make a buck and
I in no way meant to say that these people were netters. My point was that
if any netter was planning in partaking of these activities they should be
blasted because it is uncool. It just didn't end up sounding that way. :^(
Of course, everyone is free to be, I was just voicing my opinion as John and
Shelly voiced theirs. 

            So my point is, if you were thinking of scalping, don't do it!
This is not to say that every netter is a scalper but you can't say that 
every netter is NOT a scalper! The world is real and things are ugly sometimes.
I wasn't trying to yell or abuse anyone, it's not in me to do that. I am 
sorry everyone is up in arms about it but at the same time my post, (IMHO),
was simply misunderstood. Didn't mean to put glass in your wheaties Shelly.
This is not a flame either. I said I am sorry and I am moving on. No need
to send me more hate mail or whatever, the blows have been dealt!

With that all said and done, I go. My message remains the same, if you have
extras and can part with them, please do so over the net rather than at a
show. If I have to see one more twenty year old at a show on line waving
an extra and yelling, "One for seventy five" I think I might...

                                                              dre. :^)

BTW, there is nothing wrong with the Beasties and I never
     said they were Phish. If you were insinuating that only
     scalpers show up at *those* types of shows your wrong.
     Buddy, that is bordering on Racism and THAT offends ME
     in A BIG WAY! But let's just call it even...
From: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Hotline Inadequacy
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:30:33 GMT
Organization: Institute for the Theoretical Physics

So, the Santa Rosa show is already on sale at BASS, and the
hotline was updated like yesterday or the day before, and has no
mention of the Santa Rosa show. It's been noted here that it's 
maybe a 1500 person venue, and if the east coast is any indication
it could at this rate sell out before it's even put on the hotline.

Kind of a bummer, don't you think? Or are they trying to give 
locls a chance to get tickets ? This would run against the hotline
update which lists all the shows in Texas and Colorado which haven't gone
on sale yet. 

Thank goodness for the net -- it has proven to be more reliable than the hotline.

Jeff. 
--
From: rwood@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Robert J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Skiing and Phishing
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:31:34 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Hey --
	I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to go to Summit
County, CO for my Spring Break this year.  Now that I have seen the dates
for early March, my trip seems that much better.  Four dates have been confirmedfor the week I am going to be at Breckenridge.  My question is, is there 
anyone that lives in Breckenridge, or has to travel through it to get to
these shows?  The problem I am facing is lack of mobility (I will have no
wheels out there) and I would appreciate a ride from anyone who may have
room for two fellow glides.  I hope someone finds it in their heart (and car)
to offer me transport to these gala events.  This would make the complete
Spring Break.  Thank you.                             
				Brett
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From: "John D. Moore" <has2jdm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Subject: Widespread Panic
Reply-To: has2jdm@cabell.vcu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:37:41 GMT

Widespread Panic Hotline # 706-354-2586 tour dates only!!
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From: Bill Press <press@lip.wustl.edu>
Subject: Principia Discordia (no Phish content!)
Reply-To: press@v1.wustl.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:24:58 GMT

Sorry to keep tangling this thread, but I just wanted to correct and
append Matt Heller's last message regarding this mysterious and hilarious
tract. The Principia Discordia hails the goddess Eris, goddess of chaos
and discord (as Matt said). She is responsible for the confusion and
mess of it all down here, and this book tries to explain why this isn't
such a bad thing (using chaotic and wonderfully confusing discourse, of       
course). It was written by Kerry Thornley and Gregg Hill in the mid-50s,
and started by making its rounds via photocopy machines and ardent
fanatacism. Best put in an interview with Malaclypse the Younger (M2,
pseudonym for one of the two pens) by the Greater Poop (GP)

	GP: Is Eris true?
	M2: Everything is true.
	GP: Even false things?
	M2: Even false things are true.
	GP: How can that be?
	M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.

E-mail me if you want me to reply a copy...

	Bill

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From: Mike Formica <IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu>
Subject: Dude of Life
Reply-To: IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:54:09 GMT

Just looking through my lATEST DIGEST, AND NOTICED CHATTER as to wether
the dude of life is real. I met him between sets at Stony brook, the night
after Albany. He said he would probably play next at New Years. Unfortunatly,
the security at Stony Brook made the venue very UN-stony.
                                     Later,
                                      Mike Formica
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From: Jay Flemma <jflemma@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: DBX and Tape tree of old Genesis
Reply-To: jflemma@mailbox.syr.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:08:20 GMT

   While were on the DBX  topic, I've asked how DBX works (and been asked)
  and the common response is "It compresses the signal on recording in
  either a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio and then expands upon playback."

   ...not much help, is it?
  
     Is there anybody out there who has a more thorough understanding
   of how DBX works?

   Also - any old Genesis fans... I tape for the band called
    Over the Garden Wall when they're in NYS.  These guys are amazing,
   but the only way to fully appreciate the JUSTICE they do to old
  Genny is to hear it.  Any body wanna tape tree?
     ..from the land where the oceans freeze...
               Jay
From: shell@heffal.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Foam
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:09:49 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: heffal.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan22.164026.24961@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>Foam is about sex, or more specifically: the events leading up to and
>including ejaculation.
>
>- jeff

I enter this discussion with some degree of trepidation, admittedly, but
I must ask, Jeff: is this interpretation based on some insight offered by
the band, or have you come to your own conclusions independently?

I won't ask for details unless you *want* to share them with us...;-)

Shelly

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From: Rob Gilde <gilde@jaco.ds.boeing.com>
Subject: Re: DBX - how it works - CORRECTED
Reply-To: gilde@jaco.ds.boeing.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:55:50 GMT

Unfortunately, Bill Press' description of Dbx Type II noise reduction
is not correct.  

Dbx compresses the ***dynamic range*** of the signal (by a 2:1 ratio),
NOT the frequency spectra of the signal as Bill described.  That means
that an original signal with 100 dB of dynamic range is compressed so
that it has 50 dB of dynamic range.  A compressor is a non-linear
amplifier, the gain is a function of the signal.   The compressor
applies more boost to lower level signals and less boost to higher
level signals.

The compressed signal is then easily recorded on a cassette deck, which
typically has a 60 dB signal to noise ratio (Dolby off).  Of course, on
playback, the dynamic range of the signal is expanded by the same 2:1
ratio so that the resulting signal has the same dynamic range as the
original source.

"Dynamic range" is the difference between the loudest and quitest
portions of a signal.  Dynamic range of a recording machine is
important because if the dynamic range is too small, the loudest
portions will distort and the lowest portions will be shrouded in
hiss.

Dbx Type II noise reduction also does two other things: It uses a
treble preemphasis during encoding and a complimentary deemphasis
during decoding.  Unlike Dolby, the amount and frequency of treble
preemphasis is fixed.  The preemphasis helps reduce noise in the
frequency range in which it is most audible.  The other twist the Dbx
circuit does is sort of technical: the detection path is bandpass
filtered.  This does not effect the signal but it makes the compressor
and expander circuits work properly under a wide range of
circumstances.

Dbx provides extremely informative instruction manuals with their noise
reduction products.  If you use Dbx, please take the time to read them
thoroughly.  You don't need to understand how Dbx works, but it is
necessary to understand how to use it correctly.  

Rob
From: akeeton@euclid.ucsd.edu (Allan Keeton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Meandering Meaning (A Phishtory Aside)
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:31:54 GMT
Organization: Mathematics @ UCSD


	Hi everyone!!
	
	I have been asked in email about the origins & meaning of the
Phishtory. The origins are simple. I am in backwards telapathic
communication with Marley. Of course my ancient Phoenician is rusty . .
. 
	Actually, the saga started out as a playful attempt to answer
the burning question . . . Why is the mockingbird so friggin' famous.
I thought that if I couldn't get a decent answer then I would invent an
indecent one. That question is still raging at this moment. 
	For those new to Phish
all the imagary relates to Gamehenge. A saga in song by Phish.
Hopefully, those who have written papers on Gamehenge will either post
them or archive them on Brownvm.Brown.edu - even bettter - both! 
	As for meaning, this is a tough one. I might be able to tell you
what I meant but I have no possibility of telling you what it means. meaning
is participatory & it either forces its way into your home & demands a
meal & a glass of port. Or you construct it & polish it until it gleems.
You
take meaning home to bed & it kicks YOU out of bed for eating crackers.
	In fact, I was hoping someone out there would tell me what it means. The
way I feel about it is this. There are all these incredible images lying
around the Phish scene. I think it is just plain fun to go on a treasure
hunt - picking up fragments of brick-a-brack (I love that word) &
complete masterpieces & take them back to my garage. There I hastily (very
hastily indeed - I'm a busy gus) toss
them all together & hope the thing hangs. In any case it is now on the
wall in my living room & I can't avoid it even if I chose to. 
	I had originally thought that this would take one post, three
tops! 

				 . . . allan
				 akeeton@euclid.ucsd.edu

"What do you mean you can't step in the same river twice - you can't
step into the same river ONCE!"

- a quote from someone somewhere. I just can't recall who or where. -

Meaning is in the head of the meanist

- a stupid quote from me. -

	Meaning
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From: REIS T BARON <03064626S@servax.fiu.edu>
Subject: Quote Clarification
Reply-To: 03064626S@servax.fiu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:53:12 GMT

Howdy Pholks!!
     I just wanted to let whoever it is know that:
              "Live dirt up a side track carted is a putrid evil"
     is a palindrome quote from Howard Levy of the Flecktones.  I saw 
     him use this just before they played "UFO TOFU" in West Palm Beach
     last October.  Unfortunately, if recent rumors from the merchandise
     person from Widespread Panic are correct, he is no longer with the 
     band.

Please, we have no regrets!!
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From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
Subject: Re: Phish origin limo story
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:38:05 GMT


>The incident sticks in my mind because there was a rumor that this was how
>the group Marillion originated (Fish is the former lead singer of Marillion).
>So it is a different Fish, not the Fish of Marillion or the Fish of Phish.
>
>Steve Kilpatrick

This reminds me of a funny story.  I was at The Chance in Poughkeepsie
hanging out at the merchandise booth.  This man comes up and starts
asking why they changed the spelling of the name.  Andy was confused
as to what he meant.  It soon transpired that he thought the band was
Fish from Marillion.  He didn't think that because he was stupid, mind
you;  the club TOLD HIM it was that (Ph/F)ish.  And then they wouldn't
even refund his money....

BTW, does anyone know where I could get one of those cool posters that
they used to sell.  You know, the one with the road under the cloudy
sky, and the roadsign with the shark (I think) on it.  I used to have
one, but it got misplaced with all of my moving...

-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg- King of the ellipses
       (dsteinbe@emmy.nmsu.edu)
**********************************************************************
*"Swim with the cactus and      *"I can't believe I'm a junior and a *
* Float with the stone.         * film major, when all I really      *
* I try to convey what          * wanted in this life was to marry a *
* She's trying to condone."     * lobsterman and cook fish."         *
* -Phish                        * -a letter from Christie Searing    *
**********************************************************************

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From: Josh Orfanakis <G_ORFANAKIS@ccnode.colorado.edu>
Subject: ANYMORE TOUR DATES???
Reply-To: G_ORFANAKIS@ccnode.colorado.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:57:19 GMT

I was just wondering if anyone out there had heard of any more tour dates in
addition to the February dates already announced.  
Also, does anyone know the dates of when they played in Colorado last year?
And finally, does anyone have a copy of the Palace theater show from 12/28/92?
Oh ya, one more question, could someone e-mail me the setlist from the NYE show?I can be reached at G_ORFANAKIS@CC.COLORADO.EDU

THANKS FOR YOUR ASSISTENCE(i didn't spell that right did i?)
From: scottk@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Scott Kaufman  I.S.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: looking for Tony who posted the 4-18-92, Stanford setlist
Date: 24 Jan 1993 15:40:06 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucs.umass.edu

the subject says it all

if you are Tony, hello, could you send me your address, I have something
to ask you

if you know him, could you forward this to him or tell him about it

thanks, scott

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From: "Scott R. Hayes" <s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu>
Subject: Pictures of my own
Reply-To: s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:06:54 GMT

I posted some time before Christmas that I had a few pictures of the
band and was willing to trade them.  I'm not quite ready, for those I
promised.  Once I get a little more organized (sometime in Feb.) I'll
post the offer.  I'm going to the Portland show (gen. adm.) and
hopefully will get front row.  Anyone know if they harsh on cameras
there?  Hopefully I'll have at least a whole roll to offer :)

Scott
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From: trey utacht <73160.151@compuserve.com>
Subject: janis
Reply-To: 73160.151@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:31:11 GMT

Janis is silly
exitr

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From: MH1406@student.law.duke.edu
Subject: Principia Discordia (again - a little long)
Reply-To: MH1406@student.law.duke.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:29:52 GMT

Hey kids and campers,
    As promised, here is the ticket to weirdness - the Principia
Discordia can be ftped from quartz.rutgers.edu, underneath the
directory pub/subgenius.  Also accessible there are things from the
SubGenius of Bob and other oddities.
    The hard copy is orderable from Loompanics Unlimited, P.O. Box
1197, Port Townsend, WA 98368.  It is order number 88025, and costs
$6.95.  Unfortunately, there is a $3 shipping charge for 1-3 books -
so you may want to request the catalog and stock up on other
interesting tidbits that they have.
    Some notes on Loompanics:  their catalog is quite large,
described as "unusual" books - so unusual that they need a disclaimer
in the front that the catalog is NOT to be seen by children, that
"all titles are sold for informational purposes only," and that
people should be aware of their geographic areas confiscation laws
before ordering.  So what do they have that's so bad? you may ask?
Here's some of their topics sold: The underground economy; making
money; tax avoision (sic); privacy and hiding things; fake id; brig
brother; conducting investigatios; crime and police science; frauds
and con games; computer crime; locks and locksmithing; ninja; self-
defense; revenge; guns; knives; silencers; bombs and explosives;
guerrilla warfare; murder and torture; survival; head for the hills;
self-sufficiency; gimme shelter; health and life extension; paralegal
skills; sex drugs and rock and roll; intelligence increase; science
and technology; heresy/weird ideas; anarchism and egoism; real
creation; mass media; self-publishing.
    Some more notes on Principia: Full title - Principia Discordia
*or* How I found Goddess and what I did to her when I found Her:
Wherein is explained Absolutely Everything Worth Knowing About
Absolutely Anything.  From the catalog - Is it a joke disguised as a
religion or a religion disguised as a joke?  Some sample quotes - "We
look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids
(concepts). Different philosophies use different grids.  A culture is
a group of people with rather similar grids.  Through a window we
view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grids and thereby
understand it.  The ORDER is in the GRID.  That is the Aneristic
Principle" - the Sacred Chao.  " The Hell law says that Hell is
reserved exclusively for them that believe in it.  Further, the
lowest Rung in Hell is reserved for them that believe in it on the
supposition that they'll go there if they don't" - the Gospel
According to Fred, 3:1, from the Honest Book of Truth.

Enjoy, all you heretics,
Matt Heller
mh1406@student.law.duke.edu

















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From: hbpeltz@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Harry Peltz)
Subject: Re: Sony D6
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 19:14:51 EST

In article <1993Jan23.174850.23850@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> press@v1.wustl.edu writes:
>A tip to you all, handed down from wiser sources (sorry... I didn't save
>the messages, so I don't remember your name):
>
>If you want to buy a Sony D6, call J&R Music World. See, around here it was
>listing for $400. But when I called them, they had it listed for $350. Now,
>this oh so kind fellow on the net told me he bought it from J&R for $319. So
>when I called J&R, I told them that I was looking for a tape deck in a 
>slightly lower (than $350) price range, that I knew that the D6 price
>recently changed (I don't know if that's true), and that a friend of mine 
>bought it for cheaper.
>	"What did your friend pay?" He asked.
>	"$319."
>	"OK, it's $319... do you want it?"
Bill, you are still paying too much. 6th Avenue Electronics sells
new Sony D6's at $285. I have a sales recipt to prove it.

Harry


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From: hamcquil@unix.amherst.edu (HARRY ALOYSIUS MCQUILLEN)
Subject: Re: tape gens
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:13:45 GMT

Jeff Maggard 22-Jan-1993 1132 (maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com) wrote:
: Here's the way I count analog tape gens:
: 
: An analog copy of an analog master is a "1st gen tape from an analog master."
: An analog copy of a DAT tape is a "1st gen tape from DAT."
: 
: Now to completely confuse matters...  I have a DAT tape that is a copy of a
: 1st gen analog from a DAT soundboard, and I label it:
:     "DSBD->c1->DAT."
:            ^^
:             L____ one cassette generation
: 
: Sonically, it's all subjective, so judging a tape's sound quality by it's
: gen # is not always the best thing to do (e.g. judging a book by its cover).
: 
: - jeff

I do things slightly differently.

Analog Master -> Analog tape = 1st gen
Digital Master -> Analog tape = Analog Master off DAT

The DSBD->C1->DAT , I'd consider that just what it is, analog tapes off it
would be 1st gens. Generations dealing with DAT's are kind of tricky, and
If I had a tape with any of the above lineages, I'd be way psyched.

Harry
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From: kstewart@ptdcs2.intel.com (Kent Stewart)
Subject: Re: Popularity
Organization: Intel Corporation -- Aloha, Oregon
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:40:23 GMT

>
>There were lots of people, some of them looking for tickets, but I think
>the situation was exaggerated in a recent post... if I saw twenty people
>looking for tickets in my meanderings through Boston it was a lot.
>
>I got there maybe 20 minutes before the doors
>opened, [...]


That may be the reason for the discrepancy in our reports 8^). At about
7:30 there had to be at least a thousand people outside, and quite a lot
of them had their fingers in the air.  It was difficult to walk through
without stepping out into the street.

Our phriend catphish had a finger waved at him from another car at a stop
light, 40 miles away!

I'm hoping it was just an anamoly due to NYE, and the dead not playing,
etc, but it was definitely the biggest outside-of-the-venue scene I've ever 
encountered at a phish show.

--bongo
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From: NCALCATE@pearl.tufts.edu
Subject: Nitrous oxide during Antelope?
Reply-To: NCALCATE@pearl.tufts.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:43:22 GMT


  Has anyone ever noticed the sucking sounds during the beginning of Antelope?
on Lawn Boy?  I've heard that it is the members of the band taking hits of
nitrous oxide out of a tank.

  This might not be true, but there are clearly audible sounds on the CD that
sound remarkably similar to people inhaling some sort of substance.

Nick Calcaterra
ncalcate@pearl.tufts.edu

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