From: aardvark@locus.com (Warren Usui)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: ACC 5 -- The rest of the clues.
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:40:46 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California


The contest word for ACC5 was MARSUPIAL. The winning clue was supplied by
Guy Jacobson who came up with:

	Bum rap: U.S. Mail pouches are found in this strange order.

	Anagram ("Bum") of "rap: U.S. Mail" 
	= MARSUPIAL ("pouches are found in this strange order")

I liked this clue because I liked the actual definition part "pouches are found
in this strange order".  Many people I thought gave away the clue with broad
references to Kangaroos and Opposums.  I was hoping to get some phrases like
"playing possum" or "kangaroo court" but did not.   

Now for the rest of the clues.  Since I have no formal training in this
sort of thing, I will admit that some of the clues listed in the set
that I liked may have technical problems.  For example, I did not follow
a Ximenean rule that a member of a larger class cannot be used to define
the class itself (one poster brought this up).  I need to think more about
this, but it may be a good rule to follow in the future. 



Other clues (sort of in the order that I liked them) were:

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From: SHERMAN@ucs.indiana.edu (Steven J. Sherman)

	Joey plus Maria: a bad combination. (9)

	Joey= def (baby kangaroo)   anag (bad combination) of plus maria 		

I liked the use of Joey.  This was my second favorite clue.

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From: Roger Phillips <roger@quantime.co.uk>

	US Mail parcel's half destroyed - I carry the litter in my pocket (9)

	[anagram of "US Mail par" (parcel's half = half of parcel);
	I (a marsupial) carry the litter (young animals) in my pocket (pouch)]

This had almost the same anagram as the winning clue.  I liked the other clue's
definition a little better and the "I reference" I thought was strange (how
many marsupials are on the net, anyway?)

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From: msm@src.dec.com

	Joey, e.g., comes from a planet above the horizon; Alan and I follow, 
	but come the other way. 

	joey, a young kangaroo, is an example of a marsupial
	planet = MARS
	above the horizon = UP (as in the moon is up)
	I = I
	Alan = AL

I liked the Joey reference, but I thought the clue was wordy.

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From: Jeremy Holden <jholden@netcom.com>

	L.A. Rams one up!  This baby's in the bag. (9)

	(Anag of LA RAMS I UP)

This clue is probably flawed since there is really no anagram indicator.
However, I am a fan of the Los Angeles Rams (a professional American
football team), so I decided to list this one as one I liked.

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From: Decay <kirby_dave@tandem.com>

	I am with, oddly enough, Mrs. Paula Koala (9)

The Koala reference is a give-away, although I thought the Mrs. Paula Koala
phrase is cute.

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From: Tom Deneau <tomd@cayman.amd.com>

	Having a baby carrier, Mom has to eat in rearranged den. (9)

	Having a baby carrier = MARSUPIAL (the adjective).
	Mom (MA) has to eat (SUP) in rearranged den (LAIR reversed).

Worth mentioning because I liked the use of marsupial as an adjective.

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From: Wen-Ling Hsu <hsu@learning.siemens.com>

	Animal disturbed Puma's lair (9)

	A marsupial is an animal, and an anagram of Puma's lair.

I like how simple this clue is, but animal is a less interesting definition
than some of the others.

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From: jvp@doc.imperial.ac.uk

Marshal drops first holdall but takes up one which may carry issue in pouch. (9)
              -------------           ------
                    H                  UPI                 
---------------------
      MARSAL
      ------------------------------------
                    MARSUPIAL


This was an okay clue, but I thought it was a bit unwieldy and slightly
indirect.   

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From: Albert Young <young@mtl.mit.edu>

	Animal mauls pair viciously; her pouch saved lives (9)

		[anag. "mauls pair"]

I'm not sure if saved lives is equivalent to necessary for survival
of young.

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The rest of the clues below all seemed to be give away the clue with
references to specific marsupials.  I thought they were mostly okay,
except that I don't think Maria was a Shark in West Side Story.  Her
brother was a Shark (a member of the Puerto Rican gang).

From: Ray Steiner <steiner@andy.bgsu.edu>

 	Manx cat in a den at morning flipped on seeing a possum, perhaps.

	Explanation: PUS(s) in LAIR +AM (all reversed).
	MANX: Indicates "tailless". 

From: urajan@leland.stanford.edu

	Wild pair? Mauls kangaroo, for example! (9)

	Wild pair? Mauls : anagram MARSUPIAL
	kangaroo, for example : MARSUPIAL

From: Clark <ATCCP@asuvm.inre.asu.edu>

	An opossum, for example, is a rum pal.  Rum, indeed! (9)

From: "David A. Mattingly" <damatt01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>

	Scars up one, a left kangaroo.

	MARS  UP  I   A  L     defn


From: @orchard.la.locus.com:uunet!tadusa!tadtec!tjfs (Tim Steele)

	Add a plum to Mrs. Gorbachev to make a kangaroo [9]

	(anag. PLUM + RAISA)

From: Jerry Seligman <jerry@phil.indiana.edu>

	Messes up a metal kangeroo. (9)

       [MARS   UP I AL (Aluminium) MARSUPIAL]


From: Neil Morris <morris@btcs.bt.co.uk>

	Kangaroo and shark eat in Leatherhead.

	Kangaroo = MARSUPIAL. MARIA (who was a shark in West Side Story) with
	SUP (eat) in, then L = first letter of leather (Leatherhead).

	N.B. Leatherhead is a large town in Surrey, England.

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