HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mazhar@cs.arizona.edu (Mazhar N Mohammed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ** SHERO-SHAYARI **
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:36:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.210458.29015@wam.umd.edu>, kalia@next07epsl.wam.umd.edu (Atul Kalia) writes:
#In article <1619@seqp4.sequoia.com#shirish@sequoiasequoia.com (Shirish  
#Jamthe) writes:
##prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem) writes:
##: In article <7OCT92.19283738@skyfox.usask.ca# 
#srivastava@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
##: >Shero-shayari chahne waalo ko mera Aadaab !!!
##: 
##: 	Aap pesh keejiye, hum abhi peshaab kar ke aate hai!!
##: 
##: >Shaam udaas hai, Raat bhi udaas hoogi
##: >Subah shabnam pe, meri laash hoogi
##: >mujhe dafnane waale, lejana unke paas
##: >jinki tasveer, mere seene ke paas hoogi
##: 
##: 	Waah waah, kya khoob. Isee baat per ek aur sher main pesh karta  
#hoon...
##: 
##: 	Mera janaazaa jo nikalaa, 
##: 	    Saara jahaan saath chalaa,
##: 	Lekin woh nahin chali, 
##: 	    Jiske liye mera janaazaa nikala.
##: 
##: 	Prem!
##
##Agar itne janaaze oote rahein hain to aik aur sahee :
##
##	Phool uus par bhi thei phool mujh par bhi
##	log uskey liay bhi ro rahein theay aur mere liay bhi
##	pharkh sirph itna tha
##	Uski doli uth rahi thi aur meara janaaza.
##
##Shirish
#
#
#	Tum sab kee shayari par mujhe bas itna hee kehna hai
#
#	-Anda ubaala pani mein phir bhee kachha rah gaya
#	saare shayar mar gaye, ek too hee ghonchu rah gaya


In classical Hyderabadi, I would put it as .....

    
     Shairan ghar ghar hue to kairan kaiku
     Ganduan bache diye to aurtan kaiku

Mazhar...
From: ckumares@HP-UX (C Kumaresan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test1
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:12:49 GMT

This is test1 - s.k.m
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Request...
Date: 16 Oct 1992 14:45:44 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In article no. <sdjfhjds> dikkala@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravikumar Dikkala) said:
>Hai friends,
>	Can someone out there, send me the address of "India Today" here
>	in the US of A. 
>	Thanking you,
>	-Dikkala
>	PS: to Duresh Soki, do you by any chance the list of all
>	addresses for all the desi mags here in US.

you made all possible mistakes in this post.


thank god you did not sign yourself as Ravikumar Doki


suresh



ps: i think it is time for me to post the adventures of Turbo 16




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: A Wimbledon Doubt (Re: More about India)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:53:59 GMT

(Srinivas Aluru) writes:
>Which of the following is true?
>1) Women are as capable as men and hence they should be given equal
>   opportunity and respect.
>
>2) Women are less powerful than men (for whatever reasons) but in the
>   interest of fairness, they sould be given equal opportunity and respect.

Excellent point!

Let me give you an example. It is a fact that professional women tennis
players earn less than professional men tennis players on an average.
Both Wimbledon and US Open pay the the female champion less than the male
champion.

Several female players have been complaining bitterly about this apparent
inequity. I got into serious trouble when I staked my position before, but
I believe in this strongly: It is not unfair for the men's champion to
be paid more than the women's champion. 

Why?

1. Notwithstanding our individual opinions, it has been shown that
   audience find women's tennis less exciting than men's tennis.
   Obviously, many of us are not willing to forsake an afternoon
   siesta to watch 60mph serves and tedious baseline play, relatively
   speaking.

2. Naturally, fewer people watch the Ladies Final and so the ad
   revenues are less. We cannot expect a tournament to pay out
   prize money without apt revenue justification.

3. Now, if we were to pay female champion the same as the male
   champion, does not fairness then dictate that we pay the same
   to the junior (male and female) champion and veteran's 
   champion (male and female). Somehow Chrissie Evert does not
   seem to be concerned about this dimension of equity.

If we don't get caught in the wide screen issue of gender bias
and angst for equity, the current disparity in the championship
payouts, in my opinion, is quite fair! It should however be
modified if there are viewership preference changes.

Roger.....

Satya Prabhakar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: golconda@rtsg.mot.com (John R. Golconda)
Subject: Re: Bridegroom wanted
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:50:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.153822.1524@rtsg.mot.com> golconda@rtsg.mot.com (John R. Golconda) writes:
>A beautiful Christian woman in her late twenties is looking
>to marry a Christian man in late twenties or early twenties.
                                                    ^^^^^^^^
.... . . . . .  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Oops thirties.
>
>If interested, please e-mail and I will forward the
>message.
>
>John Golconda
>(golconda@green.rtsg.mot.com 
>          -or-
> golcond@eero.rtsg.mot.com)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,misc.invest
From: vilok@bmerh322.bnr.ca (Vilok Kusumakar)
Subject: Historical NAV of India Growth Fund (IGF)
Reply-To: vilok@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 13:51:07 GMT

Does somebody have the historical NAV for IGF ?  Somebody had
posted that Wall Street Journal publishes these every monday.
I will really appreciate if somebody can send them to me or post
it on NET. Last 6 months to a year will be great.

Thanks in advance,

---------------
Vilok Kusumakar                    OSI Protocols for tomorrow......
vilok@bnr.ca                       Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.
Phone: (613) 763-2273              P.O. Box 3511, Station C 
Fax:   (613) 765-4777              Ottawa, Ontario, K1Y 4H7
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Two Hanged for Killing Vaidya
Keywords: Hanging Vaidya Strike Punjab
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:39:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

apnews reports:
	   NEW DELHI, India (AP) _ Two Sikh militants were hanged today for
killing an army general who ordered Indian troops to storm the
holiest Sikh shrine eight years ago.
	   Harjinder Singh Jinda and Sukhdev Singh were executed early this
morning at the central jail in Poona, 781 miles west of New Delhi,
after losing a last-minute appeal to the Supreme Court on Thursday
night, news agencies reported.
	   Some 1,200 people, mostly Sikh guerrillas, died when troops
stormed the Golden Temple in Amritsar in 1984.
	   Militants retaliated by persuading Sikh bodyguards to kill Prime
Minister Indira Gandhi six months later.
	   Businesses closed down in most of Punjab state today after Sikh
militants called a strike to protest the hangings. Police put up
sandbag bunkers at intersections and searched all vehicles, fearing
stepped-up attacks by militants fighting for Punjab's independence.
	   Sikhs form barely 2 percent of India's 857 million population,
but constitute a slight majority in Punjab, a prosperous
agricultural state bordering Pakistan.
	   More than 15,000 people have been killed in the past six years
in Punjab's guerrilla war. Separatists claim India's federal
government denies the Sikhs their religious and economic rights, a
charge the government denies.
	   ``This hanging has reopened our wounds,'' Sikh leader Prakash
Singh Badal said.
	   Sikh politicians met today and called for a mourning period.
They also praised the two hanged men for their ``heroic deed.''
	   Jinda and Singh told the court they shot and killed retired Gen.
Arun S. Vaidya in 1986 because anyone who violated the shrine in
Amritsar deserved to die.
	   As they were led to the gallows, they shouted slogans in support
of Khalistan, the nation militants want to carve out for Sikhs.
	   They offered no resistance when a hangman placed a noose around
their necks, according to reports by news agencies. Their relatives
then cremated the bodies, in accordance with religious practices.
	   In a last attempt to block the executions, Sikh politicians had
tried to persuade the Supreme Court to overturn the death sentence
because the prisoners had been charged under an anti-terrorist law
being challenged before the court.
From: sudipta@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (sudipta bhawmik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Bengali Play
Keywords: Play, Bengali
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:03:28 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T


                  ACADEMY OF INDIAN ART & CULTURE
                            presents


                       CHAND BONIKER PALA

                       a play in bengali
                             by

                         SHOMBHU MITRA

                             at

                   MONTCLAIR KIMBERLEY ACADEMY
                   201 Valley Rd, Montclair, NJ


                             on


                     Sunday, October 18, 1992
                          4.00pm sharp


                   Tickets:  $12.00 & $7.00

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Direction: Provided with Tickets

For Tickets & Information Call: (201)-992-2235  (908)-878-2374 
                                (609)-683-5145

Email:  sudipta@ohm.att.com
        SOUMENDU@zodiac.rutgers.edu
From: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Unions and strikes (Re: On our specimen chiefminister Jyothi Basu...)
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:43:43 GMT
Reply-To: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Organization: European Computer-Industry Research Centre, Munich

In article <1992Oct14.180020.25110@csrd.uiuc.edu> ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh) writes:
>Sanjiva Prasad (That's me) writes:
>>You've also got to realize that the objective of the non-cooperation
>>was much more serious -- and much more militant.  It was *not* just a
>>show of numbers or propaganda exercise.  It wasn't a collective ego trip
>>of a party flexing muscle.  
>
>This then boils down to the end justifying the means.  And I agree with
>that.  Sometimes you may have to do things that you think are wrong to
>get what you think is right.  The only problem then is who is to decide 
>whether a particular end is right or not.  It becomes a very subjective
>matter.  Without any sweeping generalizations possible.

Sanjoy, I don't wish to be rude, but it doesn't mean anything of the
sort.  I'm quite puzzled by your non-sequitur that it is a case of
ends justifying the means.  In fact, I brought up the point to say
that *EVEN IF some of the participants had felt that the ends justified
the means, they would have thought twice about using intimidation in the
context of the Quit India movement*.  

>>>>These unions have quite simply become mafias, and hold the whole
>>>>community to ransom.  And what have those  much admired French
>>>>intellectuals to say?  I note with sadness that this is a new kind
>>>>of caste system. 
>>>
>>>Quite effectively neutralised by the nineteenth century robber baron
>>>capitalists of America.
>>
>>Huh?  I don't know what exactly you mean here.
>
>I agree, I was vague.  What I really wanted to say is that I do have some
>sympathy for the French farmers whom you so strongly derided.  In this
>dog eat dog world, that is probably the only way they can safeguard their
>livelihood.  If workers in the industries of tomorrow in the Mecca of
>high-tech, viz. C programmers in Silicon Valley are feeling insecure,
>I can well imagine the state of mind of those poor peasants.

More puzzling.  The French farmers get enormous state subsidies (probably
the largest). They're always doing disruptive things (sometimes funny) like
letting loose pigs on the streets, or sheep in government buildings.  Recently
they voiced their approval of government policy by dumping sugar beets on
the streets.  The Economist, which can be quite funny, ran a cover recently
titled (Imagine) "Europe in His Hands" showing a French farmer.  The article's
an attack on conservative attitudes (of a different kind than The Economist's
conservatism).

I haven't heard of C programmers in Silicon Valley digging up highways or
disrupting banking transactions to express their fear of joblessness.

- Sanjiva
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From: msuvarna@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: TRANSIT VISA FOR LONDON
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:03:55 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

HI NETTERS !!!

Am planning to visit India (Bombay) in mid-december. I plan to take a
two-day halt in London. I need some info' regarding transit visa, reqd.
if any ? Do they give a visa on the airport itself (temporary..)?
Also,is it true that the embassy in Bombay provides a tourist visa
for about Rs.300-400 if age is below 25yrs. Is this true?

If any of you has any info' on this please let me know. Also, let me know
if I need to contact the embassy at Atlanta. If so what is their contact
no.?

Thanxx in advance.

Manoj
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:34111 soc.culture.tamil:2845 soc.culture.indian.telugu:591 sci.environment:12082 alt.activism:17615
From: aparna@mipos2.intel.com (Aparna Krishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu,sci.environment,soc.human.rights,alt.activism
Subject: Update on the World Bank delay ...
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:49:22 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

The WB meeting, postponed once, was to be held on 15th Oct. On
15th,  we got the information that it was further postponed 
by a week ...

We continue our efforts to mount pressure ... people who wish
to protest may e-mail their FULL NAME/ADDRESS to 
sign-narmada@nacho.cs.wisc.edu

Here are the latest developments ...

STOP NEWS - The  Letter "no_mincing_words" from Morse to Preston was
            leaked. In the next article ...


1. On 14th Oct, there was a conferance call of 6/7 executive directors
   ( names unconfirmed) and Morse and Berger ( of the Morse commission)

   The latter two expressed deep dismay at the actions of the Bank, and 
   at the Bank's reaction to the Report. ( typically the Action Plan
   circulated by Preston on Sept 11h, where he advises that the funding
   continue, and tha the Indian Govt. be bothered with other issues.)

   Mr. Morse has been very ill and has not had a chance to go thro'
   this Action Plan in detail. Now, Morse and Berger have written
   a very strong letter to Preston. IRN is hoping to get a copy
   of this. Preston tried hard to persuade Morse and Berger not to
   write this letter, that is, to put these facts down on paper.


2. Now there are a lot of directors who have not determined their 
   stance. And they have to go back to their countries to discuss
   matters with their govt/ finance ministries and then decide.

   So we need to try to keep up our motivation and put pressure now.

3. Now according to reports, these directors need extra pressure

   Eveline Herfkins - Netherlands.
    		      The point is that she also represents 
		      Bulgaria/ Isreal/ Romania/ Yugolavia ...

		      Because of representing countries other
		      than Yogoslavia, she has taken a stance
	 	      of her own ( going against the Yugoslavian
		      govt's recommendation.) and is planning
		      to vote to continue funding.
   
		      She needs to be pressurized.

  Frank Potter	    - Canada
		      The Canaian Finance Ministry wants to continue
		      funding.

  Japan		    - A Senator at the Diet says that they will
		      vote to continue funding and also renew
		      their suspended aid.

  UK		    - Fence-sitting

 These guys,

  German 	    - 3/4 weeks ago, the German Govt., advised him
		      to vote to suspend funding.

  USA		    - Seems to be for susending aid.
		      Our side.

  
Right, friends - thats the story ... 
We will get back to you ... The Morse letter follows ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: "gauranga gupta" <gauranga.gupta@canrem.com>
Subject: music/dance festival
Reply-To: "gauranga gupta" <gauranga.gupta@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:02:29 EST

                                 MDO
                               Presents

                     S   A   N   G   E   E   T

                A festival of Music and Dance of India

                   Sunday October 25, 1992, 5 p.m.

                    The Bickford Centre Auditorium
                   777 Bloor Street West at Christie
                                 Toronto

                  Tickets $18 ($15 Students & Seniors)
                   Informatio/Tickets - (416) 966-0842
Featuring:
Chitresh Das     -  Kathak Dance.     Swapan Chaudhuri    -  Tabla.
Trichy Shankaran -  Mrdangam.         Aruna Narayan Kalle -  Sarangi.

                Including a North/South Percussion Duet.
--
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang)
Subject: Re: Testing this idiot machine
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:03:58 GMT

Nishit Dey (nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Header tells it all

The machine is as clever as the operator , You know ?.....

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Srinath Sarang
sarang@sdsu.edu

I Don't believe what I say, and whatever I say is wrong.....
								SS 
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From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian women and men
Date: 16 Oct 1992 14:30:56 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu


Miss Surya Kavuri flames me:

>  Say Doki 
>		When was the last time you looked at yourself in the mirror ?

I said your sense of humor was not upto the mark to appear on SCI.
anyway your response clearly tells all of us that your face is equally
sick. (and that you are aware of it)

>	Rather than hear from you, I would get a paid preacher.

i don't mind taking money from you.

>  Hang loose

what does this mean? i am new to this country you know!

>  Surya


suresh
From: rags@apee.ogi.edu (R. Raghuraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Request Temporary accomodation in Seattle area
Date: 10 Oct 92 03:56:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.43915
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Applied Physics & Electrical Engineering, Beaverton



A friend of mine is coming to Seattle for a conference. He would
like to find a place to stay since he has to pay for his accomodation.
I am including his message to me regarding the dates and location
for the conference. His email address is also provided.

If anyone has information or is able to provide accomodation
please do send email to that address or could also direct email to 
my attention and I can forward it.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks in advance.

-Rags

Begin included message:
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 12:37:12 JST
From: Dr. G. Prabhuram <praburam@dpc.ehime-u.ac.jp>
Return-Path: <praburam@dpc.ehime-u.ac.jp>

The venue is The Westin Hotel, 1900, fifth avenue.
It`s from Nov 16th -20th.
Prabhu

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End included message.



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From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Can a girl and a guy be just friends
Keywords: FRIENDS
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:49:01 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu


>How about just a cup o' coffee at McDonald's (YUK $%^&**) and talk 
> about junk ...like movies, ...SCI ...
>Even that will do I guess.


for a second i thought this was an invitation!!! ;-)

suresh
From: iac!manoj@uunet.uu.net (Manoj Achrekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RE: IIT bullshit
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:43:43 GMT
Reply-To: iac!manoj@uunet.uu.net
Distribution: usa
Organization: Investment Technology Group, Culver City, CA


In article <1992Sep30.125950.28436@cbfsb.cb.att.com> rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel) writes:
>I am the only one getting fed up reading all this bullshit about IIT?
>From the sounds of it, you would think man would still have been up
>in the trees if it hadn't been but for the grace of IIT to save
>humanity.  I am getting sick and tired of hearing all this bullshit
>from `IITians' (shouldn't it be IIT graduates??) about India losing
>all it 'gifted' engineers.  GIVE ME A BREAK!!! 
etc...........

	  PARANANDI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAM   writes

     You forgot to say the following:
      1) Ramanujam did his doctorate at Madras IIT.
      2) Sir J.C. Bose graduated from Kharagpur IIT.
      3) Sir C. V. Raman did his research at Madras IIT and beacause of the
	 prestige of IIT only he was awarded the Nobel Prize.
      4) Haragobind Khorana did his M.Sc. at Delhi IIT.  That training got him
	 the Nobel Prize.  He is very fortunate to go to IIT.
      5) Suri Bhagavantam attended the Madras IIT and that was the reason why he
	 became the director of the IISc.
      6) T. R. Seshadri was awarded the doctorate by the Madras IIT and Bombay
	 IIT.  At Delhi IIT he learned the Natural Product Chemistry.
      7) Meghnadh Shah did his B.Sc. at Kharagput IIT.
      8) Aryabhatta studied at Bombay IIT.
      9) M.S. Swaminathan did his B.Tech. in Agric. Engg. at the Kharagpur IIT.
      10) B.P.Pal developed all his roses in the IIT Kharagpur gardens.
      11) J.B.S. Haldane did his research at all  the IITs.
      12) Birbal Sahani did his research at the Delhi IIT.
      13) V. P. Subrahmanyam learned his meteorology at the Madras IIT.
      14) Panchanan Maheswari did his pioneering research on embryology at the
	  Delhi IIT.


	  What great places IITs are?
	  There is a difference between a technician and an intellect.

Paranandi 
     
      Those were only fourteen you listed. Where is the rest of the list, I am dying to know
      or maybe there aren't anymore. I don't see how this list proves that IIT's are the best.I
      agree some of them do stand out but IMHO doing research and developing are not the only 
      things we educate ourselves.

That was my 2 cents worth.

-manoj