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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Reading Directories in HC2.1 -- more help needed!
From: kik@isr.harvard.edu (Ken Kreshtool)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 06:32:48 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <1ji0bv$9fo@agate.berkeley.edu> jstern@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:
>In article <93018.191446IO92668@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO92668@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
writes:
>>Does anyone know how you can read the names of the files from
>>a folder/directory into Hypercard 2.1 so that they can be displayed
>>in a FIELD from within a STACK.
>
>Rinaldi's GetDir will do what you need. FTPable from sumex.
>
>jstern@garnet.berkeley.edu

In the same vein: I'm trying to develop a stack that seems to crash
if QuickTime 1.0 is loaded. I think it's crashing when it invokes
Rinaldi's otherwise terrific StrWidth external, but I'm not entirely
sure. Anyway, I would like to have the stack check for the presence
of QuickTime in the user's System or Extensions folders, so as to be
able to issue a warning to the user.

Two questions:
(1) Does anyone know about conflicts between HC (or externals) and QT?
(2) Could someone please, please, PLEASE email or post an EXAMPLE of how
to use GetDir? I'm not a programmer, and GetDir's syntax documentation
seems much more complex and obscure than usual -- in any case, I can't
for the life of me figure it out, even after an hour of trial and error
(100 per cent error, sigh). (I've been able to figure out others fine.)

Many thanks in advance!

Ken Kreshtool (kik@wjh12.harvard.edu)
From: chan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Chandima Cumaranatunge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: HyperCard's Networking Capabilities
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:19:38 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
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Is there any way that a stack can be networked so that more than one
person
can use it at the same time? If it is possible can one person browse while
another is authoring?
I'm thinking of developing a collaborative writing program on HyperCard,
which will require more than one person to work on the same stack at one
time. Are there any other applications out there other than HyperCard
which allow me to do this? Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Ryan_A.J._Biggs@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:55:40 EST
Subject: HyperCard Colour

Greeting from Toronto Canada folks.

I was wondering if anyone knew if Claris is going to be implementing colour
into HC in the near future?  I am using the XCMD's right now and are
finding them a real pain in the you know where.  I have used SuperCard (in
fact I OWN 1.5 and will upgrade to 1.6+ if Claris does not do something
about colour soon) and would like to see a similar colour handling.
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From: pkjel@diku.dk (Peter Kjellberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Programming external windows in HC
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:49:59 GMT
Organization: Dep. of Computer Science, University of Copenhagen
Originator: pkjel@freja.diku.dk

I'm rather new to the newsgroup, so excuse me if this topic has been
covered before.

After having done quite a lot of XCMD/XFCN programming lately, I have now
reached a point where I would like to program my own external windows
('palettes' etc.). But unfortunately I haven't been able to find any
information about how this is done.

I hope some of you netters out there can help me. Any information
- ranging from book references to specific descriptions of the HC/external
window interface - will be highly appreciated.

I normally use Think Pascal but am able to read bits of C code too.

Please respond directly to pkjel@diku.dk - I'll summarize to the newsgroup.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: dlong@uiuc.edu (dave long)
Subject: Re: HyperCard 3.0 info
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: ccso
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:07:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.154552.14710@mcs.kent.edu>,
mkovacs@Nimitz.mcs.kent.edu (Michael Kovacs) wrote:
> 
> In article <1993Jan18.193630.28018@leland.Stanford.EDU>, felciano@summit.stanford.edu (Ramon M. Felciano) writes:
> |> ...
> |> Rumor at ComDex was that Asymetrix was eyeing Supercard as a nice
> |> purchase to make... Especially since Aldus seems to be pushing it to
> |> the backburner...
> 
> Pardon my ignorance, but who is Asymetrix?
> 
> -- 
>                             -(o) (o)-
>    Michael J Kovacs             U
>  mkovacs@mcs.kent.edu         \___/
>                                ***

Hi Mike!

Asymetrix are the folks that make ToolBook, a Hyper/SuperCard-like program
that runs on Windows machines...  I could see them using SuperCard to try
for the cross-platform multimedia market, like MacroMedia seem to be doing
with their Director players for Windows and IRIS (and of course,
AuthorWare, but then at $4995 apiece, *that* market's a little limited!).

dave long                      dlong@uiuc.edu          "quack!"
computing and communications services office
university of illinois, urbana-champaign
** the university is not responsible for what i say **
** i have my own opinions **
From: jp07@gte.com (James Paschetto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: SuperCard callbacks info request
Date: 21 Jan 93 01:33:46 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated, Waltham MA

Has anyone out there dealt with the callbacks detailed in SuperCard
Technical Note #6?  I'm looking for a way to list all the SuperCard
project resources (not Mac resources, as in the resource fork) in a
project. Tech Note #6 gives the code for a couple of XCMDs that will
do this, but downloading an existing XCMD would be a LOT more time-
efficient for me.
Any help, pointers, horror stories would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Jim Paschetto
jp07@gte.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: mac9067@cs.rit.edu (Mark Collien)
Subject: weird HC password error
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:54:51 GMT

A student of mine has been developing a stack and it is suddenly exhibiting
strange behavior.

When you launch the stack a dialog box appears with the following message:
"Can't open stack "telephone".  Passwords don't match"
with an OK button. When you click OK you end up at the home stack.
The student has not do anything to password or protect the stack.
Any insights would be appreciated.

-- Mark


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Interactive Media Laboratory
Rochester Institute of Technology
mac9067@cs.rit.edu  -or-  mac9067@ritvax.bitnet
716.475.6625
716.475.5804 fax
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 11:11:03 EST
From: Patrick J. Kelly <PKELLY@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Similar IBM software

Good afternoon...
I'm looking for IBM software which can perform much of the same functions
as HyperCard or SuperCard.  Preferably one with sound capability.
I'm familiar with LINKWAY, and not impressed with it.  The software can
be on a DOS, OS/2, or Windows platform.

Thank you
Patrick J. Kelly                 University of Central Florida
Computer Lab Consulant           Instruction and Research Support
pkelly@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu         Orlando, Florida
              ... your troubles have just begun ...
From: Ryan_A.J._Biggs@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: A tutorial on "Robotic" using hyperCard & Macintalk.
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:53:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada

What I use for speach in HyperCard is a stack called Talk To Me.  It is
simple and doesn't ave all the fancy "TurnSpeechOn" and "TurnSpeechOff" of
Macintalk, but it does work.  The only problem is, it may not support the
newest version of Macintalk.  I will check later and respond.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: steve@bass.cc.utas.edu.au (Steve Andrewartha)
Subject: Mount XCMD?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:10:01 GMT

I need an XCMD to mount AppleShare volumes. I found just the thing in
the umich archives (Mount/Unmount XCMD 1.06) but it was written in '88
and complains that my version of the AppleShare software is wrong.

Is there a Mount XCMD that is compatible with current AppleShare software?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Distribution: world
From: Dajuin_J._Yao@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:09:41 PST
Subject: Re: Unexpected error 345441 ?

Seems like you've got a corrupted stack.  There's nothing much you can do,
except to go back to your back up file and continue from there.  You can
delete the corrupted stack.

**** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG.  The message contained in
**** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.
From: fry@tara.harvard.edu (David Fry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Apple takes back HyperCard
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:12:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan28.021217.19896
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard Math Department


Well, I consider this very good news.

CUPERTINO, CA (JAN. 27) PR NEWSWIRE - As part of a continually increasing
commitment by Apple Computer Inc. (NASDAQ-NMS: AAPL) to world-class development
tools, Apple and Claris Corp. today announced they will move product development
of future versions of HyperCard into Apple's Developer Tools organization in the
Apple Developer Group. 
   Apple plans to coordinate HyperCard development efforts with its AppleScript
project to give Apple a unified approach to, and a competitive advantage in, the
emerging area of next-generation software- developer tools.  AppleScript is an
advanced scripting technology for integrating applications to create custom
solutions and to automate routine tasks.  It is scheduled for release in the
first half of 1993. 
   Apple and Claris believe that this strategy assures the best future for
HyperCard and its users.  With HyperCard as a strategic cornerstone of Apple's
development-tools strategy, developers and users can look forward to significant
investments in future tools for the HyperCard development community. 
   Claris will continue to market, sell, and support the current version of
HyperCard until Apple ships the next version of HyperCard. At that time,
HyperCard will become an Apple-labeled product and Apple will assume worldwide
responsibility for support of the HyperCard product.  Apple will ensure a smooth
upgrade path to future HyperCard releases to both current HyperCard users, as
well as new customers who buy HyperCard from Claris. 
   HyperCard was transferred from Apple to Claris in late 1991.  Since then
Claris has released HyperCard 2.1 with QuickTime extensions, and the HyperCard
Player and the HyperCard Developers Licensing Kit.  There are currently more
than 100,000 active corporate, education and commercial HyperCard developers;
three million active users; and the quantity and quality of HyperCard
applications are at an all-time high. 
   Claris, a subsidiary of Apple Computer Inc., is a leading worldwide vendor of
Macintosh and Windows software for business, education and home, and has
headquarters in Santa Clara, Calif. 
   Headquartered in Cupertino, Apple Computer Inc. is a leading supplier of
computers to consumer, education, business and government markets worldwide.  A
recognized pioneer and innovator in the personal computer industry, Apple has
been named first in customer satisfaction among business computer users in the
United States for the past two years by J.D. Powers and Associates. 
   CONTACT:  Cindy McCaffrey of Apple Computer, 408-974-1578; or Steve Ruddock
of Claris, 408-987-7202
From: mdichter@hstbme.mit.edu (Mark Dichter, MD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: HyperCard 3.0 info
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:08:41 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Group/ Harvard Med
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.174.81.94

In article <1jpf95INNk34@shelley.u.washington.edu>, Jon Wiederspan
<jonwd@uwtc.washington.edu> wrote:
> 
> In article <1993Jan20.090059.13300@waikato.ac.nz> Lawrence D'Oliveiro,
> ldo@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> > I understand SuperCard completely lacks the new XCMD/XFCN callbacks
> introduced
> > in HyperCard 2.0 for handling external windows.
> 
> I believe that SuperCard 1.6 can handle the HyperCard 2.0 callbacks.
> > 
> > Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> > Self-confessed SuperCard ignoramus
> 
> Jon Wiederspan
> Too lazy to read the manuals and find out for sure.

SuperCard 1.6 handles only the HC 2.x callbacks that don't create external
windows.

Mark Dichter, MD
mdichter@hstbme.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: egolombe@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Eric)
Subject: Help I'm new to XCMDs
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:54:14 GMT


Yes... it's true I am having trouble getting XCMDs to work.  This is my story: I have been programming in SuperTalk for quite a while.  But as everyone knows its sloooow.  So, I have also been programming in C, fast yes but difficult to do graphics with and somewhat more difficult to program with.  Ok, it's time tolearn XCMDs right?  Easy? Not for me.


So... I need help

How can I use Think C to create an XCMD for Supercard?  Please be as simple as possible (I am a very simple programmer).  There seems to be no documentation inany of the manuals.


Thanx for any help.

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(egolombe@descartes.uwaterloo.ca  -- Reply to E-mail or on the board)
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: by303@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jay L. Cross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: palette & menu behave differently - why?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 00:48:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone know why handlers called by a palette act differently
than the same handler called by a menu item or entered via the
message box?  Here's the detail of my situation:
 
I've got a handler ("FRDReports") located in the stack script of a
"Preferences" stack that's "in use".  This handler is called from
the stacks that use the Prefs. stack, either by clicking a palette
button or by selecting the Print Report... item in the file menu.
The FRDReports handler sets a bunch of globals, does some other
stuff, then calls the Reports(tm) external (from Nine-To-Five
Software).  This handler locks error dialogs before making any
calls to the external, and an errorDialog handler (also in the
background of the Prefs. stack) puts up a dialog telling the user
that the Reports externals are not installed (if they are
installed, the errorDialog handler is never called).
 
The weirdness is this (if the Reports externals aren't installed):
When I select Print Report... from the file menu, or type
"FRDReports" into the message box, I get my custom error message
as expected.  BUT, if I click the palette button, I get nothing at
all.  A look at the message watcher shows that the message passing
just stops when the external is called.  The scripts of the
relevant handlers follow:
 
on FRDReports --called by palette button & Print Report... menu
  if the optionKey is down then put TRUE into option
  -- buncha reports globals set here --
  set lockErrorDialogs to TRUE
  RPControl "Flags", FALSE, FALSE ***
  --if Reports is not installed, HC complains: "Can't
  --understand RPControl."  This is handled by errorDialog
  --(below)"
  if option is TRUE then
    RPControl -- display  Reports palette
  else
    answer file "Select the Report or View document to print:"
    of type "925d"
    if the result is not "Cancel" then
      put it into theReport
      hide message window
      hide tool window
      hide pattern window
      RPControl "File",theReport
      RPControl "PrintOptions",TRUE,1,1
      RPControl "Print"
      send openCard to this cd
    end if
  end if
end FRDReports
 
 
on errorDialog oops
  if (oops contains "Reports") or (oops contains "RPControl") then
    put "This stack requires the Reports(tm) externals. " & (cr)
    "They are not installed on this machine." into prompt
    answer prompt
    exit to HyperCard
  else pass errorDialog
end errorDialog
 
***When this is called by the palette button, the message watcher
indicates that things stop here.
 
Anybody got any clues as to why this is so, and how I can make
sure the error is handled when the palette button is clicked?
 
I'd appreciate any input.  Thanks very much.
-- 
Jay Cross  by303@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu   (CFN: by303)
From: selene@carson.u.washington.edu (Selene Fisher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: colorizeHC XCMD... userlevel, visual effects, picts?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:07:10 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

I have the dubious pleasure of trying to colorize an HC teaching stack, and I
have run into a few unexplainables.  Please excuse me if these are common
knowledge; I looked everywhere I could think of for the answers before
posting this.  I am using HC 2.1, the XCMD itself (not John Forrest's
stacks), System 7.0.1, Quadra 700 with 20/230, etc. 

Q1: Now that I have copied the XCMD into my stack (using ResCopy v.
4.0b17) and have added some color with "colorFill", whenever I open my
stack, the userlevel is set to 2 and blindtyping is false.  This only
happens when I launch the stack as the first access to hypercard.  It's
fine if I come in from another stack.  I have no protection on, my home
preferences are fine, and once I bring up the message window, I can freely
change my userlevel, etc.  Does anyone recognize this problem? 

Q2: As J. Forrest mentions, visual effects are limited with the colorizeHC
command.  In my most recent version of his stacks (v1.1.2), he refers to a
command "cHCvisual" which he says is supposed to do the same as "unlock
screen with wipe left" He also says he thinks this will work.  I could not
get the "unlock screen..." to have any noticeable effect.  Does anyone
know how to get visual effects to work or if they can ever work?  I'd rather
not use the Forrest stacks, because my end user will only get confused,
and nothing is that vital.

Q3: Last question (phew).  Does anyone have any pointers on how to create
spiffy looking buttons like Bung-Dabba used in their original stack?
I have a modest color painting program that I can't seem to generate
enough detail with. I am also less than successful at actually using picts
in my stack - they never seem to look right or they are the wrong size. 
Hints in this direction would also be appreciated. 

Thanks for the help.  I'd prefer not to convert to SuperCard unless the
overwhelming opinion is DO IT.  Please respond via this net or to my email
address below.  I'm willing to summarize the solutions and post them if
anyone is interested (besides me).

Thanks again,
Selene Fisher

selene@u.washington.edu 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: harrym@netcom.com (Harry Myhre)
Subject: Re: HyperCard Colour
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:11:31 GMT

re: colour Hypercard.

I hear that they're having problems with the speed. 'Course that's only
rumors. There are lots of rumors flying around about HyperCard. Don
Crabb wrote an article about it in MacWeek last week. In the article,
he brought up the possibility that Claris (and Apple?) will let Hypercard
die. I guess if they do that I'll sell my Mac, because Hypercard was the
main reason I bought a Macintosh in the first place. It's still one of
the few programs that aren't available on any of the other computer
platforms.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: joshr@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Joshua Rabinowitz-Summer-91)
Subject: send "hi" to "MyProgram" ....
Summary: what type does send command create?
Keywords: events 
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:21:38 GMT

Hey all, I am going to use hyprcards new
"send" comand to send a string AE to my application.

My question is, as what kind of AE will I recieve it?
I assume it will be class 'misc', type 'dosc'.

Is this correct?

If there is interest, I will post code for unloading the AE on the
application side.
thanks.
-- 
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#include <std/disclaimer.h>     Josh Rabinowitz, Mac TCL programmer
joshr@kronos.arc.nasa.gov
"Me lost my cookie at the disco." -- Cookie Monster
From: raiford@cs.utk.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: XCMD's for CTB
Date: 28 Jan 1993 15:34:09 GMT
Organization: UT Knoxville
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Raiford@cs.utk.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra2d.cs.utk.edu

Hello, I am looking to not reinvent the wheel. I want to 
use the communications toolbox through XCMD's. The end
result will actually be a Smalltalk application (but I 
am able to use XCMD's) using the XCMD's as glue code
to use networking services through the CTB. If anyone can
tell me of any that are even remotely revelant i would
apprieciate it.  

				Thanks,
				   Jon Raiford

RAIFORD@CS.UTK.EDU


btw: I was thinking of using a XCMD or some other type of
code resouce as a callback function. Would this work?
I assume that i would have to load it in memory and lock it
then use the pointer to it as my callback location. (possibly
having to set up another A5 world) 
any ideas??


comp.sys.mac.hypercard 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe)
Subject: Re: How to deprotect a stack?
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:53:51 GMT

In article <9301270239.AA14241@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Jinwon 
Choi <jchoi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:

> I tried this. But it did not work properly. My debugger did not 
understand
> the word "deprotect". Is there anybody who knows about the deprotecting 
> stuff?  It will be very helpful to me, if anybody lets me know.

There is an XCMD at the umich archive called "unprotect" (which I haven't 
looked at) which might be a help to you. Available via Gopher or anonymous 
FTP at:

mac.archive.umich.edu

in:

hypercard/xmcd/unprotectxcmd2.0.sit.hqx

Herb Poppe                 National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu       1850 Table Mesa Dr.
(303) 497-1296             Boulder, CO  80303
From: karen@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Karen Bryden)
Subject: ToolBook by Asymetrix
Followup-To: Re: HyperCard 3.0 info
Reply-To: karen@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Organization: Communication Research Centre
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:51:52 GMT

Dave Long (dlong@uiuc.edu) writes

>Asymetrix are the folks that make ToolBook, a Hyper/SuperCard-like program
>that runs on Windows machines...

I gather that this is a HyperCard-like program that runs on PC's.
Can someone describe it to me?  How does it stack up against SuperCard?

thanks!
---
Karen Bryden             karen.bryden@crc.doc.ca
voice: (613) 998-2515    fax: (613) 990-7987
Communications Research Centre, PO Box 11490 Stn H, Ottawa Canada K2H 8S2