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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.unix.aux
Subject: Does CAP 6.0 work with A/UX 3.0?
From: dskeeler@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dennis S. Keeler)
Date: 12 Aug 92 10:56:35 -0500
Organization: Miami University

	I'd like to test CAP 6.0 pl 125 on my A/UX 3.0 IIsi before I use it on
our RSS6000. But the CAP FAQ says it has support for A/UX 2.0, it does not
mention 3.0. Am I heading for trouble if I try to use CAP with A/UX 3.0?
	Thanks for your advice.
________________________________________________________________________________
Dennis S. Keeler                |  "Common sense is that thin veneer of
Miami University                |    prejudice we acquire before the
DSKEELER@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu  |    age of 17." - Albert Einstein
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From: add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Network software
Date: 19 Aug 1992 16:27:36 GMT
Organization: Rice University

Can someone please give me some comparative information about these
products?  All I have is the name and manufacturer.  Contact for the
manufacturer and pricing info would be helpful.  Thanks.

Inter*Poll - Apple
RouterCheck - Neon
Net Watchman - AG
EtherPeek - AG
NetMinder - Neon
-- 
Darren Dunham                 		          add@is.rice.edu
MicroConsultant                       		  Rice University
(What is that? A small consultant?)	              Houston, TX
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From: neils@tafe.sa.edu.au (Neil Strong)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Quickmail Server and ARA|Liaison
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:56:27 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk

wagner@ets.org (Mike Wagner) writes:

>Has anybody hooked up a dial-up service on a Quickmail server? I need to
>.......... Does anybody have any experience with this

We are using remote access to Quickmail server in a number of ways. We have a 
modem attached to the mailserver. You will need to set this up in your Admin 
software on the Mailserver. No additional comms software is needed on the 
mailserver, QM provides all this through their software and Apple Comms 
Toolbox. 

At the remote location you can use Quickmail Remote, provided with QM, or any
standard comms package. QM Remote completely simulates the look and feel of
QM, as if you were back on your local network. This is the best solution for
those users who can only cope with a limited number of applications and ways
to do things.

For the more experienced user any comms pakage will do. Just dial up and go 
through the logon procedure. The screen display is very text based but quit
effective. More attention will be needed on individual passwords if you are
to avoid interference from outside - however no known breach of security 
beyond QM at any sites, so far.

Pre QM 2.5 releases more stable for this type of remote work. QM 2.5.1 had some
fixes. Further fixes promised.

We have used AppleTalk Remote, which has broader application than QM, but will
not run on QM Server. You will have to run it on another mac on the network.

If you only require QM access, the advantage of the modem on the server is
network security and the opportunity to set up QM-QM connections with other QM
sites.

Good Luck

Neil   

(Neils@TAFE.SA.edu.au)   South Australia

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.hp
From: pnessutt@qii.sialis.com (Robert A. Monio)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: NCSA Telnet/MacTCP problems
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:15:44 GMT
Organization: Quality Institute International, Inc.

Hello -

I'm wondering if someone could provide me with some direction in regards
to a few problems that I'm currently having.

I'm in the process of trying to install NCSA Telnet on one of our
Macintoshes.  I configured a test MAC with MacTCP 1.1 (as obtained from
from APDA) and from what I can tell it is configured correctly (No errors
at boottime, etc.).  However when I start NCSA Telnet it complains with
the following message:

   Error opening TCP Drivers
   Possibly no dynamic addressing

I'm using NCSA Telnet 2.4.02 (MacTCP version) in conjunction with
MacTCP 1.1.  Our DDP gateway is a Fastpath 5 which bridges the 
localtalk network to our TCP/IP network/UNIX servers.  Currently
we are using the Fastpath in conjunction with CAP/AUFS in order to
provide fileserver support (this is working well).  We'd like to get
Telnet support in place so that a Macuser could access applications
on the UNIX side.

I would appreciate hearing from someone in regards to this - please use
this email address to reach me:

   uunet!rosevax!sialis!qii!pnessutt

I'd tell you to use our domain address, but the nameserver for the
domain is toast currently and we're waiting for it to come back up.

Thanks in advance!

 -Bob


-- 
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 Quality Institute International, Inc.    old-fashioned way.. 
 pnessutt@qii.sialis.com                  WE BEAT PEOPLE FOR IT!"
 ..uunet!rosevax!sialis!qii!pnessutt         -- Paul Ellering, "Legion of Doom"
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: Routing between Appletalk and Ethertalk
Keywords: appletalk ethertalk
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:58:20 GMT

In <1992Aug20.151239.1864@mother.bates.edu> rob@mother.bates.edu (Rob Spellman) writes:


>What devices are available for routing packets between Appletalk and
>Ethertalk?

There are many hardware devices with various features and prices. There
are also two software routing programs (Apple Internet Router and Liasson
from Farallon). There is also a software bridging program (all most people
need) from Sonic Systems. 

Please provide more details about what you want to do, so we don't have to
list every product under the sun.
From: erict@ascent-west.UUCP (Eric Tiffany)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Getting rid offending postcript (lwsrv -e)?
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:14:15 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I tried to post a solution to this very problem earlier today, but it
was buried at the end of something else so I will repeat it.  

The System 7 LaserWriter driver spews the randomness you are having
trouble with.  This is passed through the lwsrv because you started it
with the -N flag.  This croaks my printer, too.  So, I simply
interject a pipeline where the output filter goes in the printcap.
Part of that pipeline is a call to a sed script:

/^%!PS-Adobe-2.0 Query/,/\*EOF\*/d
/^%!PS-Adobe-2.0 ExitServer/,/\*EOF\*/d

This will remove the offending crap from the front of your PostScript
jobs.  Here is my printcap entry:

nec|lp|lw|postscript|PostScript:\
    	:lf=/usr/spool/nec/nec-log:\
    	:df=/usr/local/lib/ps/dvips:\
	:lp=/dev/ttyc:sd=/usr/spool/nec:\
	:br#38400:mx#0:sf:sh:\
	:ms=-cstopb,-clocal,cs8,parenb,-parodd,-opost,ixon:\
	:rw:\
	:of=/usr/local/etc/textps.sh:

and here is the textps.sh:

#!/bin/sh
#
sed -f /usr/local/lib/ps/mac.sed | /usr/local/lib/ps/textps -fp

You would substitute your Transcript output filter (or whatever is in
your printcap for the :of= entry) for the call to my textps program.

Hope this helps

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From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Problem with NCSA/BYU Telnet 2.5 hardware=appletalk option
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:32:29 GMT
Organization: New Technologies Group

I've been unable to get the "hardware=appletalk" configuration option of
NCSA/BYU Telnet 2.5 to work in our environment.  HELP!

We run Macs on both LocalTalk and Ethernet, and have a Fastpath-4
running K-Star 9.1 as a bridge between them.

Macs connected to the Ethernet (Asante NuBus cards) work just fine, with
either "hardware=ether" or "hardware=mactcp", and a fixed (manually-
assigned) IP address.

Macs connected to LocalTalk work fine with "hardware=mactcp", with
MacTCP configured for server-based address assignment.  The K-box hands
out an address from its dynamic range, and the connections work fine.
The dynamically-assigned IP address shows up in the "arp -a" report as
being mapped to the K-box EtherNet address.

However, they do not work correctly with "hardware=appletalk", and
either server-based or fixed IP address assignment.  TELNET seems to
acquire an IP address from the K-box, but its attempts to send packets
to the Unix hosts through the K-box drop into a black hole.  I don't
ever observe the K-box "LocalTalk activity" light flash.  The
dynamically-assigned IP address doesn't show up in the "arp -a" report,
unless I do something on the Sun such as ping the address... in which
case, the address appears in arp -a (the K-box is responding to the arp
packet) but the pings receive no response.

All I can conclude, is that the NCSA/BYU 2.5 IP-in-DDP driver isn't
transmitting the packets to the gateway properly.  I haven't been able
to figure out why not.

What am I missing, folks?

On a related subject - is there any one document which describes the
meanings (and perhaps even the interactions) of all of the K-Star
option-flag settings?  Is there any way to control these option settings
from within an atalkatab configuration file, or can they only be set
from within the FastPath Manager?




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 USNAIL: New Technologies Group Inc. 2468 Embarcardero Way, Palo Alto CA 94303
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Mike Moran
Subject: Re: Network software
Reply-To: mmoran@arco.com
Organization: ARCO
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:08:39 GMT

 add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham) writes:
>Can someone please give me some comparative information about these
>products?  All I have is the name and manufacturer.  Contact for the
>manufacturer and pricing info would be helpful.  Thanks.
>Inter*Poll - Apple
>RouterCheck - Neon
>Net Watchman - AG
>EtherPeek - AG
>NetMinder - Neon
> ...

Inter*Poll was under $100 last time I looked.  It gives you a list of devices
(sockets, really) in a particular zone or zones, sorted by network, name, type,
etc.  Also lets you query the system software versions, and time echo tests
to the devices.  A fairly basic, very handy tool.

NetMinder has 2 versions, 1 for Ethernet and 1 for LocalTalk, listing at
about $600 and $400 respectively.  Lets your Mac function like a "datascope"
or protocol analyzer, very handy for detailed analysis and diagnostics.
RouterCheck is great for walking into a big confusing AppleTalk network
and beginning to make sense out of the connectivity, router configurations,
etc. and then monitoring the performance of these routers.  Requires a fair
amount of AppleTalk understanding to gain full benefits.  Also has some
features missing (ie. some fairly "common" router misconfigurations that
it does not detect).  List price $900. but could be worth it.
Neon Software has solid technical support too, IMHO.
Phone number is 510/283-9771.

Haven't gotten to try out the AG software yet... you mightalso want to 
check out NetAtlas by Farallon, and NetWORKS by Caravelle.

And of course, the opinions are only mine.
Mike Moran
ARCO Oil & Gas
mmoran@arco.com

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: dave5@bivalve.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dave Ensign)
Subject: Re: Question/Problem configuring CAP on Suns
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:48:41 GMT
Keywords: CAP6.0

In article <1992Aug21.172824.24173@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, dave5@cosmos.bellcore.com (Dave Ensign) writes:
|> LaserWriter II.  The Suns are on an ethernet along with some Macs, and
|> the printer is on an AppleStar network served by a Novell print spooler
|> (running Netware).  The Macs send print jobs through the Novell.
|> 

This problem has been solved.  It turned out to be in the configuration
of the Netware print spooler.  I was able to change my cap.printers file to
send directly to the LaserWriter II.
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From: ianf@chook.cs.adelaide.edu.au (Ian Florance)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Quickmail Server and ARA|Liaison
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:28:22 GMT
Reply-To: ianf@cs.adelaide.edu.au
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk

From article <wagner.713623780@research>, by wagner@ets.org (Mike Wagner):
> Has anybody hooked up a dial-up service on a Quickmail server? I need to
> connect a modem to one of our macs for users to dial into, and I'm thinking
> of using either Appletalk Remote Access or Liaison from Farallon. I would
> really like to use our QuickMail server for this, instead of dedicating a
> separate Mac to the task. Does anybody have any experience with this
> configuration? My fear is that when mail is being handled on the server,
> routing will fall off the deep end. Thanks for any info.
>  

Use Appletalk Remote Access and install qmail on the external mac.
This is the easiest as you get a lot more flexibility with ARA.
The only problem is that you can not have 'daul' accounts ie you
have to log yourself off at work before you can use you account on qmail
at home. We use this setup with Quickeys logging off our qmail account
at work automatically at set times.
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From: syen@jupiter.seas.upenn.edu (Shih-Cheng Yen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: How to kill CAP programs cleanly?
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:56:57 GMT
Reply-To: syen@jupiter.seas.upenn.edu (Shih-Cheng Yen)


	Hi! How do I kill lwsrv and aufs jobs cleanly? Even after doing kill -9 <process id> I still see the laserprinter and appleshare server on the AppleTalk zone. Doing ps -x lists no other processes on the Unix side. When I try to access them from the Mac, the message says that they are no responding. The only way we have been able to remove the entries is to shut down the SUN. I have had to use different names everytime I start up aufs as I don't seem to be able to get aufs running with the same name. I hat




e to continue clutering up the AppleTalk Zone!
	Please advise! Thank You!

							Shih-Cheng Yen
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: larry@abtlabs.uucp (Larry Pajakowski)
Subject: AARP details clarification needed.
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 13:26:50 GMT


Help.

We have had a number of AARP storms and some of the network folks are
attempting to understand what has been happening.  I'm posting this for
them.  Your replys will be appreciated.

As usual if there is sufficient interest I'll mail or post a summary.

TNX

Larry Pajakowski
Abbott Labs.
larry@turing.abbott.com  (real e-mail address)

______________________________________________________________________



We need definitive answers to the following list of questions.  Most 
require exact parameter values, that should be publicly known, but which are 
not in Apple's Phase 2 "Inside AppleTalk" book.  Some have definite values 
that are dependent upon the implementation for a given protocol stack.  
Where this is the case, please provide values and their associated protocol 
stacks.  If known, please also provide any values suggested by Apple for 
developers.  Apple has been unable to answer these questions--at least in
the 8 days they've had to respond so far.  Where appropriate, I've included
in parentheses (chapter-page) the page number reference in "Inside
AppleTalk, 2nd Edition" where the topic occurs. 


1. What is the typical size of an Address Mapping Table, or how many 
entries can the AMT hold before old entries are purged to make room for new 
ones?  [book just says there is a "cache" of mappings]  (2-7)

2. How many AARP Probe packets must be broadcast by the protocol stack 
attempting to verify that its tentative protocol address is not in use by
any other node on the data link?  [the book just says "a number" of probe
pkts] (2-7) 

3. From book: "If [an AARP] Response packet is not received "within a
specified time interval," then AARP retransmits the Request packet. 
The question is, WHAT is the value of the time-out interval mentioned 
above?  How long must AARP wait before retransmitting the Request 
packet?  (2-8)

And how MANY retries are attempted?  [book says just "a specified maximum 
number of times]  (2-8)

4. What is the timeout value that is allowed to expire before an AMT entry 
is aged?  (2-10)

5. Does a Macintosh end-node send the equivalent of a DECnet end-node's 
HELLO packet to refresh its router's AMT?

6. Does a Macintosh end-node maintain an AMT?  If so, what is its size, or 
how many entries can it hold?
From: rob@mother.bates.edu (Rob Spellman)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Routing between Appletalk and Ethertalk
Keywords: appletalk ethertalk
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:12:39 GMT
Organization: Bates College, Lewiston, ME


What devices are available for routing packets between Appletalk and
Ethertalk?


-- 
Rob Spellman
rob@mother.bates.edu
Computing Support Services
Bates College
From: glen@Cayman.COM (Glen B. Glater)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Routing between Appletalk and Ethertalk
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:13:24 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: rob@mother.bates.edu's message of 20 Aug 92 15:12:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.151239.1864@mother.bates.edu> rob@mother.bates.edu (Rob Spellman) writes:

  >What devices are available for routing packets between Appletalk and
  >Ethertalk?
  >
  >
  >-- 
  >Rob Spellman
  >rob@mother.bates.edu
  >Computing Support Services
  >Bates College

There are many.  My favorite, of course (see .sig file) is the Cayman
GatorBox CS (or GatorStar GX for you active star types).

Others are:

Shiva FastPath
Webster Multigate
Compatible Systems EtherRoute
Apple Internet Router (software, no TCP/IP)
Farallon Liason (software, no TCP/IP)

There are other options as well, but these are the most popular 
commercial products.

As always, any questions can be directed to email address support@cayman.com
or glen@cayman.com.

Glen
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From: kentaro@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Wanted Aplletalk board for Image.II
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:27:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: kuhub.1992Aug21.112726.42481
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Anybody out there who has an appletalk interface board for the ImagewriterII.
If so please contact me at the following


kentaro@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
kentaro@cadlab.engr.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham)
Subject: Local Printing from IBM mainframes.
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:39:07 GMT

Recently here, many of our office personnell were using ROLM switch DTIs
to connect to an IBM mainframe, usually using Mac Kermit or Yale's
TinCan. However, we've ditched the DTIs and placed cards in the machines
so they can use TCP/IP programs such as Brown's tn3270 modification of
the NCSA Telnet program.  While nothing is wrong with this program, it
does not offer us the luxury of locally printing email as our serial
line programs did.  I have heard about the WMAC/RMAC utilities for
tn3270, but they apparantly only run in IBM 370 mode, not XA mode (what
we run around here).  I would appreciate it if someone could give me
some pointers to products (preferably free, but commercial considered)
that will allow us TCP/IP connections, 3270 emulation, and local
printing (screen dumps don't count, but session captures might suffice).
I'll give a summary if responses warrant.

-- 
Darren Dunham                 		          add@is.rice.edu
MicroConsultant                       		  Rice University
(What is that? A small consultant?)	              Houston, TX
Any resemblance between real opinions and my post is coincidental
From: horde@reed.edu (Mr. Heiji Horde)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Questions regarding CAP and Ultrix machines.
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:42:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug18.194246.19558
Organization: Twisted Genius Rehabilitation Center, a Division of MHE

Okay...before asking my questions, let me describe some other things.
I currently have 4 CAP servers running on 4 different machines:
	Dec5500, with enhanced security and using Phase 2 ethertalk
		 (Cap60, pl100)
	Dec5000, using Phase 2 ethertalk (Cap60, pl 100)
	Dec5500, using Iptalk only (Cap60, pl 125)
	Sequent S27, using Iptalk only (Cap60, pl 125)
Our Dec machines are running with all of the current kernel patches.
  And unless noted otherwise, all the Decs are running Ultrix 4.2.

Now for the questions:
	1) has anyone been able to compile Phase 2 ethertalk on a
	   Dec running Ultrix 4.2 with Cap 6.0 pathlevel 125?
	2) Any ideas why CAP will not work (using just Iptalk) on 
	   a Dec3100 with either patchlevel 100 or 125?

Any help appreciated.

	-Heiji
	 horde@reed.edu
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