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From: aus@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Hans Aus)
Subject: HP Macintosh connectivity
Originator: aus@winx03
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:42:08 GMT

I would appreciate receiving suggestions, experiences and
sources of hardware and software for the general problem of
connectivity between HP3xx computers to a MAC LocalTalk network.

It seems to me that there are several solutions:
1) Diskette transfer (including SCSI removeable disks)
2) LocalTalk cards for the HP computer.
3) Ethernet connections via a router.
4) Others ?

Please respond to directly to me  and I will post a summary of
any information that I receive.
Thanks
Hans M Aus

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From: alech@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Alec Henderson)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:56:05 GMT
Subject: Re: Consistent (frustrating!) PPL error...
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

SLIP and ASLIP are the only point-to-point protocols supplied and supported
by HP up to and including HP-UX 9.0.

Regards,
Alec Henderson

Telephone: T/408-447-3965		Hewlett-Packard
FAX:       408-447-3660			Information Networks Division
E-mail:    alech@cup.hp.com	       	19420 Homestead Road MS 43L9
HPDesk:    Alec Henderson/HP6600/1B	Cupertino, CA  95014  (USA)
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From: mcsavaney_d@apollo.hp.com (#David McSavaney)
Subject: HP-UX SPEC numbers. Nov.92
Originator: mcsavaney_d@macsav
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:48:43 GMT
Organization:  Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden

In article <BvGAED.597@apollo.hp.com> you write:
>The following numbers have not yet been submitted to SPEC, but they
>are included in the HP Performance Brief which goes to the printers today
>and will be available in November. (my final review draft arrived this morning)
>
>710c/HP-UX9.0
>
>SPECint92 - 32.7
>SPECfp92  - 56.4                                                               
>dhrystone MIPS - 57
>SPECmark89 - 56.5
>Linpack dp MFLOPS - 12.2                                 
>
>
>Best wishes
>
>Dave McSavaney
>Workstation Product Marketing
>Hewlett-Packard Company
>
>

>Thanks for publishing the new SPEC numbers (for HP-UX 9.0).  Would it be
>possible for you to post the corresponding numbers for other models (720, 730,
>750, 705, 7xx)?
                      
Certainly.
All numbers are with HP-UX 9.0 and associated compilers. please bear in mind
that none of these numbers are official HP numbers until they are released 
from SPEC.

             SPECint92   SPECfp92  

705            22.7        39.3
                             
710            32.7        56.4

720            38.5        66.1

730            52          86.7

745/747        36          72

750            51.1        84.8

Bo
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Best wishes

Dave McSavaney
Workstation Product Marketing
Hewlett-Packard Company  

*Not an official statement of Hewlett-Packard Company*



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From: mamason@mbunix.mitre.org (Mason)
Subject: HP 8GB DAT Parameters?
Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Ma.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:08:05 GMT


Can anyone tell me the suggested parameters to use with dump when
writing to these devices?

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From: hart@waterloo.hp.com (Tony Hart)
Subject: Re: SLIP on 700 RX Terminals
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:58:15 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
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Chris Curtin (chris@bwilab3.UUCP) wrote:
: Has anyone had any luck connecting an HP 700 RX X terminal to an 800 series
: using SLIP? If so, is it easy to do? How is performance. Do you run Vue?
: 
: I started thinking about this when I saw the 'serial' choice on the 
: configuration panel. First thoughts: How do you get the modem to dial 
: without having a character terminal? The X terminal needs to boot from
: somewhere and you cannot connect to the modem until the terminal has booted.

This is documented in Chapter 11 of the "HP System Administrator's Guide for
the HP 700/RX". As you point out, the terminal needs to boot from somewhere;
usually an optional ROM server card which slips in the back of the unit. This 
contains the server code, assorted fonts, and (with the B.04 software release)
local clients such as 'mwm', 'hpterm' and 'xterm'.

Hope this helps!

Tony Hart,
Panacom Automation Division,
Hewlett-Packard (Canada) Ltd.

Standard Disclaimer:
All opinions expressed are my own and do not represent an official statement of
the Hewlett-Packard Company.
From: kk@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Konstantinos Konstantinides)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:58:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Producing Movies from an HP 9000/730
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, heeres@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Ken Heeres) writes:

> I have a project in which I need to produce a vhs tape of images.  The WS I
> have is an HP snake.  Is there any equipment out there that will allow me to do
> this?
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> ken

One way is to use an RGB to NTSC converter, Folsom Research sells
those for HP machines, but other companies make them too.

Or use a high speed video camera and tape directly from the screen.

KK
From: kev@hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (Kevin Jones)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:22:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Compressed 4mm on s300
Organization: HP Computer Peripherals Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> My current understanding is that the data-compression model of the HP 4mm DAT
> drive is not supported on the S300/400 machines, only on the s700.  Does any-
> one know if HP will include this support on s300/400 under HP-UX 9.0?

I don't know the answer to that.

I do know that we use DC-DAT drives on S300/400 with no problems.
As far as I'm aware, the main reason for these drives not being
supported is that the S300 driver does not provide the ability to
enable/disable compression, the net result being that the drive
always writes compressed data and cannot be made to write uncompressed
data.

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                                   | Computer Peripherals Bristol,
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                                   | Stoke Gifford,
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statement by, the Hewlett-Packard Company.  The above data is
provided for informational purposes only. It is supplied
without warranty of any kind.
From: lundeby@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Bruce Lundeby)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:25:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Compressed 4mm on s300
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> My current understanding is that the data-compression model of the HP 4mm DAT
> drive is not supported on the S300/400 machines, only on the s700.  Does any-
> one know if HP will include this support on s300/400 under HP-UX 9.0?

HP 35480A DDS-DC tape drives are supported by HP-UX 8.0 on s300/400 systems
with patch PHKL_0789. HP 35480A DDS-DC tape drives will be supported by
HP-UX 9.0 on s300/400 systems.

Bruce Lundeby
lundeby@fc.hp.com
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From: roy@issy.cnet.fr (Jean-Michel ROY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: DNS & NIS on HP-UX
Date: 9 Oct 92 07:54:29 GMT
Organization: Centre National d'Etudes des Telecommunications

I have an HP9000-870 configured in NIS slave server. The master NIS server
is a SUN. I configured (whith makedbm -b). 
With this configuration (and a good file /etc/resolv.conf) the HP never
consult the NIS Maps.
Is ther a special to do to force it to consult the NIS maps, and after the
DNS ?
From: librarian@iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu (InterWorks librarian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP-UX publicly available software (update #12)
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:51:05 GMT
Organization: International HP Workstation users' group (InterWorks)

The following is a list of new (or updated) entries (since my last posting),
of UX-related software on the InterWorks library node (iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu--
128.255.18.10). Note that everything is available via anonymous ftp-- in 
"comp.hp"). The README there contains a complete list of the available 
software.

All the following is supposed to be suitable for the 700 series, but I
can't personally verify that yet (but RSN B-) ). Executables are included
in some packages. If you take a package and find that you must build an 
executable (or do some porting) for your machine and/or OS level, I 
would appreciate hearing about your work and receiving a copy of the 
executable you built.

Note that I have had very little involvement in the writing or packaging 
of any of the items on the list-- they are the result of the work of many 
other people. In particular, note that the available binaries have not
been compiled by me. If you are concerned about running binaries compiled
by someone else, build them yourself with the available source. Also note 
that individual authors may include text regarding the rights of others
to use and distribute their code. 

Thanks to all the contributors.

     80589     EasyEdit.tar.Z (was ezedit.tar.Z)
                  An HP (unofficial) user-friendly text editor

  18531320     GNUEmacs.tar.Z
                  The HP (unofficial) enhanced version of GNUemacs,
                  based on version 18.58 from the FSF.

    282312     amd-5.2.tar.Z
                  A filesystem automounter

    508089     amd5.3-beta1.tar.Z
                  For the adventurous, a newer, beta-release version of the above entry.

   1342487     groff-1.06.tar.Z
                  The source package for the following two entries

   2105453     groff1.06_s300.tar.Z
                  Document formatting system. /usr/local/lib, bin and
                  man directories for 68k machines only (no source)

   3007377     groff1.06_s700.tar.Z
                  The executables and related files for PA-RISC machines.
                  See the notes above for groff.s300.tar.Z.

     74773     xcalc_tar.Z
                  A "standard" X-client scientific calculator (TI-30 or HP-10C).

     41128     xcalendar.tar.Z
                  A simple interactive calendar program with a notebook capability.

     33461     xdaliclock.tar.Z
                  A digital clock; when a digit changes, it "melts" into its new shape.

    208953     xmps.1.01.tar.Z
                  An HP (unofficial) X/Motif version of `ps'. Many useful features,
                  including process sorting by ancestry, automatic refresh, etc.

    357865     xrn-6.17.tar.Z
                  An X-based interface to the USENET news system that uses an NNTP server.
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From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: HP/UX Performance Monitoring?
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:03:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.200614.15346@timesink.chi.il.us> mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec) writes:
>A friend of mine new to UNIX is running an HP9000-827S under HP/UX
>8.02 with 32MB memory. Apparently they are having performance
>problems even tho there are only a few developers on the machine.
>Can anyone recommend any performace monitoring tools? Specifically,
>we're looking for something like "top" for Suns or "u386mon" for
>386 based UNIX.

Top is available from iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu. You can also get trial
copies of Glance+ from HP - call the Response Center if you have
software support. There are also a bundle of HP-UX patches that
supposedly deal with performance, though none have made any difference
on our 750, but maybe you'll have better luck on an 800.
-- 
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... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
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From: VAAGA@gribb.hsr.no (Vaaga, Hans Egil       7-93)
Subject: Reading all packets on an ethernet using TCP/IP
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:15:56 GMT

Hello !
We are 7 students who is working for a company called HITEC (
Norwegian company). We are going to make a program in C++. This program will 
read the packets form an ethernet. Our workstation, an HP 9000/700 (using 
UNIX of course), will communicate over an ethernet using TCP/IP.

Our problem is that we need C-routines that fetch packets from the network. 
We will make C-routines that count all the packets and make other statistics 
as well. The result will be printed on screen and printer.

Can anybody help us?

Vaaga
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:11371 comp.periphs.printers:2889
From: jim@tiamat.fsc.com ( IT Manager)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: overiding FORMS= setting in LJ menu
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:06:59 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Ahlstrom Filtration - Chattanooga,TN

I'm about to go digging through the manuals, but in case I don't find anything,
I thought I'd ask here.

What escape sequence works to override the FORMS= setting in the
LaserJet menu?  E.g. we mimic non-laser printers by using FORM=66 so the
LJ always prints 66 lines/page.  Sometimes, though, something will happen
(malicious user, stray software, mischevious imps, etc) to cause this
FORMS= setting to change (usually to 60) and our printouts mess up.

What I'm looking for is the escape sequence to send which would affect only
this parameter, so I'll know before every print job that it is 66 lines.

Thanks.
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From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Help installing a printer?
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:51:55 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

I am not looking for instructions. I can crank my way through that myself.
However, there is no appropriate local guru for me to query, so I have
to bring my concerns to this forum. Apologies accompany the post..
   I am printing up a thermal printer to the SCSI of an HP700 here at
work, and am aware that the drivers that accompany it are for SunOs
and 100% compatible systems. Thus, I have to kludge my way through mknod
and figure out exactly what to set up. 
   Keeping this in mind, I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to ask you
how to do this, but if tehre were any cautions I should uphold, or
tips you could provide, I would be eager and grateful.

steve
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From: richard@cs.brandeis.edu (Richard Congdon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HPUX 9.0 LaserRom
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:15:34 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University Computer Science

In article <6937@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu (Bill Broadley) writes:
|> Came in the mail today... hope the Cd-roms with hpux 9.0 are
|> following close behing ;-)

I don't think so.... I have heard from two HP people that it recently went back
to the lab, and that 9.0 would be out January at the earliest.

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		Brandeis University Computer Science
		617/736-2717
From: michel@es.ele.tue.nl (Michel Berkelaar iopic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Need disktab entry for Fujitsu M2652SA (2 GB unformatted)
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:27:46 GMT
Organization: none

The subject says it all. We are considering bying such a drive, and are
currently testing a demo model.

We experience problems with the disktab entry. The disk is formatted to 512
bytes sectors.

Questions:

does anybody have a correct disktab entry for this model?

would it make sense to somehow reformat the drive to 1024 byte sectors? How?
What would the disktab entry becom in such a case?

Does anybody have experience with this drive connected to a HP9000/7X0? Any
problems? Can I boot from it?



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From: anobili@nyx.cs.du.edu (alfredo nobili)
Subject: fbackup and remote DAT
Keywords: fbackup DAT
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 14:02:13 GMT


 Ok... this is the problem....
According to man page for the command fbackup one could backup a directory
tree using a remote device such as a DAT on a remote workstation...
Well, I cannot get anything good....
My command line is
 fbackup -i<mynamedir> -f<remote station name>:/dev/dat3
All I get is a loop ...
the program continues asking me to change output file names
and if I want to continue with the procedure...
On the other hand the same backup made from the workstation on
which the DAT resides seems to go ok but none of the files could
be restored....
I would also add that the filesystem to be backed up is mounted with NFS 
on the workstation on which the DAT resides.
Any suggestion, anyone ???
From: franks@synoptics.com (Frank Stutzman)
Subject: Re: more can't use stderr
Reply-To: franks@synoptics.com
Organization: Synoptics Inc. Santa Clara, California.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:26:21 GMT

In article 13342@adaclabs.com, jonf@.adaclabs.com (Jon Furukawa) writes:
>I am running an HP 730 and the 'more' command responds with the message
>'Couldn't reopen stderr'.  If anyone knows why please let me know.
>I tried copying 'more' from a machine where the command was known to be
>working and failed upon execution on my machine.  I also verified that
>standard error is working from a test C program.  It fails in all shells
>and all accounts except root.  uname gives the following for exact
>identification of my system: HP-UX worf A.08.07 A 9000/730 2009217315.

Oh my, does this tickle ancient brain cells.   I used to work at the Response
Center and I remember running into this one before.  If I remember correctly,
it was due to the permissions on /dev/null.  It was really screwy- something like
you needed read permissions on it. 

Sorry I don't remember any more, its been some time and I have very little
access to HP-UX machines anymore.  Hope it helps.





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From: seymour@stein.u.washington.edu (Richard Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP 750 power supply and memory access
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:37:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct7.193742.16775
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

alw asked "why does my 7xx's power supply change its tune (chirp)
 during my program's run?"

switching power supplies (such as most computer equipment uses these days)
do, indeed, vary their "switching rate" depending upon the load being drawn.
   Higher load=higher frequency.
I don't know the internal chippage and switching of the HP 7xx, but it's
 certainly possible/probable that disk accesses (it takes power to move those
 heads) and Floating Point usage (armwave there...) could raise and lower
 the draw...  I'd be surprised if -memory- useage caused load changes,
 since it's almost always reading and writing -something- to/from memory.
It's even possible that -lack- of a load is bringing the powersupply's 
 switching frequency to drop to some value which causes sympathetic resonance 
 with other parts of the cabinet.

VERY Rough armwave on how switching supplies work:
  AC line current is coverted to DC (at the AC voltage!) and fed to a
    Capacitor (energy storage device).
  As the computer demands power, energy/current is drawn from the capacitor
    (it's "switched on") to a DC-to-AC conversion circuit.  That derived 
 high-frequency AC is fed through transformers to make the desired range of 
 voltages for the computer.  Those various voltages are re-converted back 
 to DC for the computer's use.
Why this way?  The high frequency AC used in the voltage conversion allows
  the use of -much- smaller transformers and smaller capacitors on the 
 output side to kill the "ripple" caused by DC conversion.  
  Previous power supplies ("series") converted the input AC line voltage
 down first (at low line frequency ), which require thicker wires and more
 iron in the transformers.  Then it was converted to DC, which often required
 multiple massive capacitors on the output side, one for each voltage.
 These had to provide enough stored energy there to handle 
  expected load excursions.  The extra energy was dumped as heat by
  pass-transistors located between ("in series with") the capacitors and
 the load (the computer).
Switchers can handle more current with less heavy heat-producing hardware.
 (they're more complicated and smarter, but they're cheaper...)
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: ELM: Corrupt mail file
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:37:47 GMT
Reply-To: "Mike O'Connor" <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.efhd.ford.com

In article <1992Oct7.141447.17961@dxcern.cern.ch> xexeo@dxcern.cern.ch
(Geraldo Xexeo) writes:

:I've been suffering from continous crashes of ELM, which complains,

What's the output of "elm -v"?  Suggestion:  If you have HP's Elm, get
Usenet Elm.  It works better, trust me.  

Question:  For every version of HP-UX, there seems to be a different
revision of Elm, yet I can't find any real difference between...
say...  Elm 64.xx and Elm 70.xx.  What's the scoop, HP?  Anyone?

					...Mike


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