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From: debbiek@navaho.cc.bellcore.com (kennedy,deborah)
Subject: Re: AMC: A&D with SOM
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:18:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.151610.14211@umiami.ir.miami.edu>, ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
> 
> Not to mention no dorm or cafeteria expenses...everybody just keeps living at
> home while attending PVU.  Hey, remember when Charlie (previous incarnation)
> Ann Helmers

Which brings to mind the Hayley/Adam living arrangement.
Just WHY does she live with that Pondscum anyway?
I see no reason except for storyline.  If she had her
own place she wouldn't have all that liquer always
staring her in the face when she gets home.  She'd also
be farther away from the Brian/Dixie/Adam thing too.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: EFS6MEF@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: DOOL: TAN: Can I have the Bayview Pass?
Reply-To: ecz5mxr@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:48:59 PST

I swore I wouldn't watch it, I swore...  But then I thought, "hey,
wait, Jenn is matron of honor, maybe they'll be some good Jack/Jenn
scenes where they are reminded of their own wedding..."  But NO!
Jack shows up for under five lines and Jenn is forced to be locked
in a room with Carly.  So I watched... it was like watching a train
wreck...  I tried to ff, but it didn't help.  I need help, fast!!
Did someone say the turquoise pills were good???  If I take the
turquoise ones, will Hope and Doug return?  Hope can kick Carpy
into the harbor and Doug can save his fair lady from oblivion...
(I can dream, can't I?)
Razzie (who swears she'll never throw the remote at the TV in a
vain effort to obliterate Carpy again...)
BTW, didn't Carpy look bad, even for Carpy?  This wasn't the bride's
best day...
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From: marlowe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Amanda T Marlowe)
Subject: Re: AMC: characters email addresses
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:44:28 GMT

In article <191630045@hpcvra.cv.hp.com> daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs) writes:
>
>Nat	        captive@well.wildwind.houseboat.edu

Actually, shouldn't this be captive@well.wildwind.houseboat.ETC ???

Amanda (still going...) <--Energizer Bunny goes here ;)



-- 
**** Amanda Marlowe		"Son, Son, I admire your sincerity. Always be
     marlowe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu   sincere whether you mean it or not." 
****                               -The Reluctant Cannibal, by Flanders&Swann
From: gaspersi@plains.NoDak.edu (Mark G)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Tad's need of a good barber
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:15:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.BzA0u7.EA0
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Please People, let's not get all in a huff, just because someone (me)
suggested that Mr. Hunk of Burning Love (Tad) needed a haircut.  I don't
think that men need to have short hair to look good.(not that I look at
men, okay?)  I myself, have long
blond hair and many woman find it attractive. I just merely pointed out
that he looked a little disco-ish.  Just this humble college boy's opinion.
Don't flame up on me or anyone for criticizing Tad.  Anyway, Charlie Brent
is better, IN MY OPINION!!!!!

				LATER,
					MARK G.
From: linda@unix.SRI.COM (Linda J. Szkoropad)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB:  Photo Ideas
Keywords: ideas
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:53:35 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

Some of you have no pictures or are too shy, too whatever to send
them...

You have some options:

1)  Draw yourself (in black and white)
2)  Send a picture of your pet (SOMEBODY I WON'T NAME IS DOING THIS)
3)  Send a picture of your kid or WHATEVER you're proud of (even if
its the back of your head watching SB in an easy chair or couch!)

use your imagination!

Linda Szkoropad
318 Swaps Drive
San Jose, CA  95111
From: kristyp@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kristy Patterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:  Former lurker, new poster
Keywords: HELLO
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:13:13 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <BzBnxB.J04@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> brandtch@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Chris Brandt) writes:
>Hello fellow fans of All My Kids!  My name is Chris Brandt,
>a student at Purdue University, and I've watched AMC off
>and on for the past 10(?) years (It was when Erica first
>started Enchantment, and Jesse was saying philosophical
>things like "Be chilly!")  I have been lurking in this
>newsgroup for about a week and I decided I'd add my
>two cents worth!

Hi & welcome!

>Just one question for now.  Since I haven't watched dailt
>for the past ten years I was wondering if there were 
>previously any storylines or even mention of the Weirdwind
>group before Natalie was so carefully placed in the well
>by JaNut.  (Personally I think before Dimitri shaved he 
>looked like Mitch Miller :-) What do you think?)

I'd never heard of them before this; isn't that strange?  They're
supposed to be this super-rich, powerful-in-business family, with
this HUGE mansion right outside Pine Valley (or 30 miles, the writers
can't seem to decide)... and NO ONE ever mentioned them.  Gee, Adam
or Palmer never had to deal with him?  No one ever hit Dim up for
donations to all these charities?  Sheesh!  Well, IOAS, as they say!

Maybe the Merricks are actually aliens, who appeared suddenly one day,
but have brainwashed everyone into thinking they've always been around,
and that they know them.  In reality, they're after Enchantment products
for their planet of ugly people with dry skin. *Twilight Zone music*

>Chris Brandt
>brandtch@sage.cc.purdue.edu

-Kristy


-- 
   +==========================+============================================+
   |Kristy Patterson          |"One more date and we would have had a Greek|
   |kristyp@mac.dartmouth.edu |tragedy on our hands."     -Jeffrey Anderson|
   +==========================+============================Soapdish========+
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 08:54:41 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Next Week on DOOL
 <1992Dec7.232058.12592@cbfsb.cb.att.com>

In case you couldn't guess, Spud writes:
>>Spudnix--So what do you folks think, with this UN action in Somalia,
>>sadly to say the wedding may be pre-empted. Sigh. Let's hope though
>>for a peaceful solution, and that the beleaguered folks of Somalia
>>can be saved.--Peel.
>
Again, in case you couldn't guess, Tim writes:
>Tim--  I sure hope that if things do blow up in Somalia that the network
>affiliates don't find out until 2pm on any given day and I sure could use
>a lyric for this week because I'm drawing a blank over here--
>
Hey timmy, could we please wait until 3 because that's when DOCL airs here.
As for an lyric for this week, hows about this one.  I'm even going to give it
a twist and ask for the movie it was played in.

OK folks, hows about this lyric for this week.

But, they can't hear a kiss
or two arms that hold you tight
So come on baby, don't fight tonight
just dim the lights

The artist:  (sorry, no clues, because it's too easy)
The name of the song:  _ _ _   _ _ _ _ _    _ _ _ _     _ _ _ _
The movie:  (Again, no clues, because it easy)

Someone'd better hurry up with that Bayview pass 'cause I'm really losing it
Quince

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From: GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:  Dixie's Hair
Date: 18 Dec 1992 02:15:48 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <BzEtwn.8v8@spss.com>,
ilene@spss.com (Ilene France) writes:
>In article <16DEC199214564743@xenon.arc.nasa.gov> holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (LAURA HOLST) writes:
>>Looks like the hair stylists from hell are at it again.
>>Is it my imagination, or is Dixie's hair now most
>>stiffly *red*?
>
>  I most definitely noticed this yesterday, too.  However,
>  isn't this new color closer to Dixie's original hair
>  color?  In her Tad days, when she had long hair (before
>  the hair butchers chopped it all off), I remember
>  it being a reddish brown color.  Then, it seemed like
>  she just started to get blonder and blonder.
>  Maybe they are just trying to restore Dixie's hair
>  color in preparation for when she meets up with
>  Tad again?  After all, the poor guy has no memory.
>  Maybe he can only recognize her if she goes back
>  to her old hair color :-)

I don't think they have done anything to her hair.  I have
reddish-blonde hair and I don't know about the rest of you but at
different times of the year my hair is different colors.  In fact, I
have been accused of coloring my hair several times when it changed
color.  Also, when I get pregnant it gets very dark at the root and
for about 3 inches back and does look colored.

Alma
From: san7675@zeus.tamu.edu (STEPH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ATWT:What we need
Date: 15 Dec 1992 00:17 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I've been giving this some thought, and I've decided on a few things the
show needs to make it more interesting.

1.  A character who has a homosexual relationship.  I think it'd be interesting
  to see a MAJOR character have to deal with this sort of prejudice.  (maybe
  Royce could be Bi... maybe he's talking to a MAN whenever Emily walks in on 
  him... hm...)

2.  An overweight character.  Again, a pet peeve of mine, the soap world is 
  intent on showing "beautiful" people... except for that one girl on B&B that
  had atrocious acne... But she's gone, along with the rest of Brooke's family.

3.  For the real world to intrude once in a while... Why don't soap opera people
  ever talk about world events?  I mean, they make a big deal about voting, but
  we never heard word ONE about the new president...  And we've got American 
  troops in Somalia, why doesn't someone from Oakdale mention it?  Why doesn't
  the lovely and talented Kim do an episode of Patterns on families seperated
  from their loved ones?

4.  For the Cellar to play REAL club music, not that trash that they are trying
  to spoon-feed us as dance music... I heard a real tune on the TV the other
  day and thought I was watching DOOL... but surprise, it was the Cellar!  They
  should continue that track.

5.  On the Cellar theme again, they should teach the actors to dance.

6.  Margo needs to learn to say the word "positive" like the rest of the 
  English-speaking world... not "pos-itive," but "posi-tive."

Just a few peeves.  Sorry for inflicting.  It's finals week, that's my only 
excuse.  

Dragonet

From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:52:41 GMT
Subject: Re: AMC: update for 12/14
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / ilene@spss.com (Ilene France) /  8:43 am  Dec 15, 1992 /

>>3) Has Gloria given Dixie any underwear tips?
>
>    No.  Now that Gloria has become so clean
>    clean and wholesome, she asks Ruth Martin
>    for underwear tips.  Just imagine a "Ruth's
>    Secret" catalog, full of matronly plain beige
>    cotton hip huggers.

THIS had me laughing out loud :-D  I can just imagine!  And think of what
the models would look like ... all bundled up with cold cream on their
faces (does anyone do that anymore?  or did anyone ever?).

>>5) How many dry cleaners are there in PV?
>
>    Zero.  People in PV just wear the same outfit for
>    several weeks without cleaning it and then replace
>    it.  Remember that shirt that Craig wore after
>    Dixie threw him out?

That's what the BAD characters do.  For the GOOD ones, they hang up their
clothes at the end of the day, and when they wake up the next morning
the clothes have been mysteriously cleaned and pressed.

>>10) What is on Timmy's Christmas list?
>
>     He wants a brain for each and every resident of PV.
>     After all, it's no fun being the only person in
>     town who has one.

Don't forget about Harold!

>   --Ilene France

Dave Ochs            "Even if I did hit her it wouldn't have done any good
daveo@cv.hp.com      ... [sigh] should'a used a pail of water, that was it!"
Corvallis, OR                    - Edmund to Dr Tolan, about "Broom" Helga
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker)
Subject: Re: Y&R:  Jack Debate Rages On!
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:35:52 GMT

Annemarie Bosnyak (ab3t+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:

:     BRING BACK TERRY LESTER!!!!   DO A TRADE WITH SANTA BARBARA (is he
: still there?).  GIVE THEM ANYONE THEY WANT!!! BRAD, PAUL, NEIL, JOHN
: ABBOTT, SCOTT (HELL, GIVE 'EM SCOTT FOR NOTHING!).  JUST GET TERRY
: LESTER BACK....  
: 
: Anne Marie


	Ife got ze good news and ze bad news.  ZE good news is zat
Terry Lester is back on ze daytime tee-vee, on ze show named "As de
Vorld Torns".  Ze bad news is he might stay zere, so Meester Boigman
is likely to stay shust var he is.

	Jim Acker
	jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov

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From: holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (LAURA HOLST)
Subject: LOV:  From SOM, Louie
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:40:00 GMT

Minor spoiler, but everyone probably knows that part anyway...

A SERIOUS THEME FOR BERNIE

Bernie Barrow is professionally delighted with his latest
storyline in which LOUIE confronts a bout with cancer,
because he thinks male cancer is an important issue.  "I've
been told Louie's won't be fatal, thankfully," Bernie says,
"but it's time that male cancer is dealt with on soaps.
Louie is a very strong man who should be able to deal with
something like cancer without it either being the end of his
life or the end of his world.  I hope it will mean that people
who have this problem will be able  to identify with him, and
that in some way we can be instructive about how someone who
is ill can deal with it."

--Laura Holst
Internet:  holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov  Decnet:  XEN::HOLST
Snail Mail:  NASA/Ames Research Center  MS 219-1
             Moffett Field, CA  94035-1000
Live:        (415) 604-6588
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From: nfh@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nancy Fisher Hansen)
Subject: AMC:  Prediction 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 19:12:45 GMT


Hi everybody!

Okay, I think I've got this Weirdwind thing figured out,
and I haven't seen anybody post my theory, so I thought
I'd share it with the net.  It's based on a few assumptions:

1) AMC would never do an incest-related storyline.
2) There's got to be more to this than Edmund being Hugo's son.
3) Edmund and Angel are siblings--their relationship reminds
me too much of Luke Skywalker & Princess Leia.

Here's my prediction:

Hugo's wife (Dimitri's mom) had an affair with the gardener 
(Flora's husband--what's his name?) and conceived Dimitri.  
Hugo hadn't had sex with her, and therefore knew that Dimitri 
wasn't his.  

Hugo and Helga slept together and conceived Angelique.  Hugo
& Helga pushed Dimitri and Angel together so that Angel would
be "mistress of Wildwind", as she should be.

Hugo slept with Flora Gresham to get revenge on her
husband, who is the gardener, Dimitri's dad (explaining why
he doted on Dimitri rather than his "son" Edmund.)  Hugo
can't acknowledge Edmund as his son, because then Dimitri
and Angel will lose Wildwind.

The result of all this is--Angel and Edmund are half-siblings,
Dimitri is not a Marick, but a Gresham, and Edmund is not
a Gresham, but a Marick!

Just my $0.02,

	--Nancy

p.s.-If Bill Clinton interrupts Tad today, I'll have a 
miserable weekend...
From: pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB: Mason's soliloquy
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:00:20 GMT
Organization: RAND


Not to step on the toes of Monday's updater, but since I happened
to get it down I thought I'd share what Mason said as he pondered
the menu in a roadside diner:

    To eat or not to eat, to risk indigestion.  Whether it's (or tis?)
    wiser to forgo a greasy spoon and thereby ensure starvation, or,
    (pause) to coat my bare(?) insides with fare so foul so as to
    induce unbridled nausea.  (claps menu together)  To heave,
    perchance my life to be, if that is the question.

Obviously Gordon Thompson knows Shakespeare or he would have
sputtered over this like I did.  Good stuff.

Pat
-- 

	Patricia Boren
	pboren@rand.org
From: dias@cac.washington.edu (Vivian Dias )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Did this post?
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:18:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec11.181817.18804
Organization: UW Computing

In article <Bz3tu0.J0o@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jean reese) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec11.010638.9448@ac.dal.ca> jlalonde@ac.dal.ca writes:
|> >Hi! This is my first post, and I'm not certain if I'm doing this
|> >right. Please let me know if this gets through.
|> 
|> Hi!  you're live and on the air here in Indiana! Welcome to the group!

  Greetings and salutations from the Pacific Northwest!!!!
|> 
|> 
|> >I've been lurking for about 2 years now and really enjoy the updates.

  Okay, all you lurkers out there.  If Joanne can do it you can.  Come on
  now, you've only got five weeks left to unlurk.  We want to hear from you,
  please, please, please... 
|> 
|> 
|> >I have classes at the same time as SB airs, so I only get to watch once
|> >in a very little while. The updates keep me interested.
|> >
|> >I don't have much to comment on just now, just wanted to say hi and
|> >thanks for the updates!
|> >
|> >Joanne.

  Well now that you've unlurked we expect to hear more from you.  Glad to have
  you on board.  

  -Vivian
> 
|> Jean
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From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: DOOL: Our blitz of the studio
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 00:27:54 GMT
Organization: UT Petroleum Engineering Dept.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:56:32 GMT

Here are my two bits...

I just called (it's 5:30 in Austin...3:30 in CA) Susan Lee's office and
spoke with a very weary sounding woman who told me that Susan Lee was 
in a meeting.  I said I would appreciate it if she would please pass my
feelings about SSH's firing on to Susan Lee and asked what she felt 
could be done to save her.  She said to write Ken Corday.  I said I 
felt that would be a waste of time as he seems intent on killing DOOL
but she said that was all there was to do.  I then asked her to be sure
and let Ms. Lee know about my call.  We shall see.  She did sound like
she'd been getting quite a few calls -- that's good.

Sigh...

Well, kiddos, I'm on my way to Bolivia.  I'll be back next year.  :)  
Happy Holidays and all to everyone.  I'm gonna try to post one more 
thing tomorrow but don't know if I'll make it.

Take care -

Joanna.

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|      ( o o )                |  who never talk or see each other."   |
|       \   /   Gus-ball!!    |      - David Letterman, 7-22-92       |
|        (_)  Hook 'em Horns! |           pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu  |
From: pinyan@goodlife.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Pinyan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Current Storylines
Date: 18 Dec 1992 19:50:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pinyan@goodlife.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: goodlife.corp.sun.com


I know there is still a lot of Carly-bashing going on, so I thought it
was time to stick out my neck again.  I haven't been flamed in a while
and I guess I just miss it.  :)

Anyway, I LIKE the story now - things are moving fast and some of the
things that really bother most of you don't bother me:

1) Carly didn't tell Bo.
	Bo's an asshole and very immature.  Besides that, Lawrence is
	still as evil as ever because he IS manipulating Carly.  I love
	that he hasn't lost his edge yet.  He has manipulated her into
	believing that Bo wouldn't understand and that it could hurt
	Nikki.  It is very believable (to me) that she would do
	ANYTHING to protect her son especially because of all the lost
	time.

2) Jenn went over to Lawrence's.
	I would run through fire for my best friend.  If Jenn had gone
	over to console and be with <insert character name>, would you
	still think it was bad?

And finally, it seems that the Carly-bashers love Jack and Jenn - let's
talk about using the FF button and a stupid storyline.  This one hasn't
caught me at all.  I'm down to watching 2 stories -
Carly/Lawrence/Nikki/Vivian, and Marlena/Roman/John (because the John
and Marlena stories were SO good that I see some promise here - I've
even found Roman and Marlena easier to watch).

OK - there it is - flame away.  :)
Ann

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: klong@sura.net (K.A. Long)
Subject: Re: Y&R: Nikki
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:19:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.162205.20316@rd.hydro.on.ca> crobshaw@rd.hydro.on.ca (Catharine Robshaw) writes:
>What's wrong with Nikki?  She and Victoria are moaning and groaning
>over how they can't spend the holidays together.  Why can't they?
>What is Nikki afraid of?  Victor?  If she wants Victoria and Ryan over
>for the holidays, who is he to stop her?  If it was my daughter, I
>certainly wouldn't close the door on her.  Why isn't she showing more
>backbone?
>
>Just my $.02.
>

Catherine,

I agree completely.  I can't fathom why Niki hasn't stood up to 
Victor about this.  It's totally rediculous.  What's Victor going
to do about it anyway?

klong
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 13:35:11 EST
From: Nelson Broat <NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Hope Is Back

In article <1992Dec13.081110.26662@panix.com>, spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is
A Way Of Life" Spira) says:
>
>Tidbits picked off Genie
>
>Kristian Alfonso (or however you spell it) is returning to DOOL in
>February.  No word on whether tshe'll be Hope or a new character.

Fantastic tidbit, thanks Greg!

God I hope she returns as Hope, then they could bring back Ernesto
and have a real evil nasty guy back on the show again tormenting the
Salemites and have what I hope will be a real good mystery and storyline
(i.e. - no Stupido fiasco like Nov. 91).

>Louise Sorel was injured and will be out for a few weeks; the role is
>being temporarily recast.

Bummer, must be serious if its being recast, since she's currently
supposed to be playing the part of a fragile and ill woman with those
pills Vic's been giving her. Of course, I'm 9 hours behind so that may have
changed by now.

>Greg

                                                       HOPEful -N- All