From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: MORE POLITICS! Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news
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Date: 16 Nov 92 03:24:02 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <1992Nov15.184032.15649@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>In article <jayson.049c@tbag.tscs.com> jayson@tbag.tscs.com (Jayson Phillips) writes:
>>5 Nov 92 17:52:26 EST x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>> 
>>[intelligent comments by Dave Haynie deleted]
>> 
>>>       Um, hate to tell you this, but even the press agrees that
>>>Bush was one of the most intelligent presidents we have ever had.  
>> 
>>Bush is a sly dog, I'll give him that.  Heck, he fooled nearly the whole
>>country into going to war.  Although he did have a lot of help.
>
>You'll have a very hard time, Jayson, of detailing how going to war with 
>Iraq was a mistake.
>                   
>The United States does not have enough oil reserves to be self-reliant.
>It was an opportunity to free a cou
>The Coalition was able to destroy a significant portion of Iraq's equipment,
>such as armor, and rid the already pathetic air force to Iran.
>George Bush organized a world-wide, unifying effort.
>For once, most of the Arabs were aligned..not against Israel.
>The Coalition destroy much of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons.
>The Coalition crippled Iraq's progress to develop nuclear weapons.
>The Patriot missile showed success under conditions for which it was not design
>d.
>All the military hardware and training which the Liberals for years griped abou
>was definitely shown to work *well*.
>It boosted American's morale about their country.  Americans were glad for once
>to kick the ass of some tin-horned crazy whose types for long thumbed their nos
>at the US, saying isults about the US, etc.  This was true in 1986 in Lybia.
>The free flow of oil at more market prices was allowed.
>George Bush's Coalition enable the beginnings of Arab-Israeli peace talks, the
>likes of which had not been seen in over a decade.
>The United States now has more clout in protecting its interests in the world.
>It finally put to rest the post-Vietnam sentiment of the military being evil,
>etc. and the complex in America of the US being 'beaten'.
>                                                         
>Sigh, that is all I can think of at the moment.
> 
>>>Quayle is a different story but let's not kid ourselves.  Clinton is
>>>no brain.  I don't see what caused people to vote for Clinton over
>> 
>>Well  Clinton  was  at  least  smart  enough to beat Bush.  And if somethin
>
>That just prooves he can demogogue more than Bush.  And being a great president
>has nothing to do with campaigning.
>
>>happened  to  Clinton then Al Gore would make a hell of a lot better backup
>>then Quayle would have made.  Some more intelligence shows through.
>
>Yes, like Al Gore saying that the internal combustion engine is the greatest
>threat to mankind, and that there should be NO offshore oil drilling in
>United States AT ALL.  Now, how is *that* for oil self-reliance?
>                                                                 
>Face it, All Gore has gone over the DEEP END with this environmentalist crap.
>
>>>Perot or Bush.
>> 
>>I  had  kind of hoped (dreamed) that Perot would make it but there are lots
>>of  good  reasons  not  to  vote  for  Bush.  Try the fact that he's been a
>>criminal  at  least  since  his days as head of CIA (if not longer) and the
>
>And Clinton is a draft dodging, lying, womanizing, dope-smoking failed governor
>from a tiny state ranked 49th in everything _but_ illiteracy, married to a weido
>feminist wife he had to shut up during the campaign so she would not hurt his
>election chances.
>                 
>Ie, please have even a smidgen of proof before you called the President a
>criminal, ok?
>             
>>fact  that  he  has  no  feeling  or  respect  for human life what so ever.
>
>And another one.  One might say that it is George Bush advocating Pro-Life,
>not Clinton.  Please _follow_ _through_, Jayson, just like Clinton did 
>with Gennifer Flowers
>                 
>>Iran/Contra  alone  should  be  enough  to  keep  him completely out of the
>
>Do you even have ANY idea what the fuss was about wrt Iran/Contra?  The
>Congress, in their infinite wisdom, decided not to fund the freedon-fighters
>in Nicaragua to help them fight a *Communist dictatorship*.  The forbade it.
>Now, overcharging sales to Iran is not illegal, just against the Presidents
>foreign policy at the time.  However, any funneling of money from that to the
>Contras *was* illegal.  Now, are you telling me George Bush saw to it that
>the profits were sent to the Contras? That he did anyhting but support the
>then-president, Ronald Reagan?
>                              
>>running.   The  fact  that  he's  also  mixed  up  with Noreaga, Iraqi arms
>>build-up,  S&L  scandal,  and the fact that he undermined the Environmental
>>Summit should be more than enough good reasons not to vote for Bush.
>
>Your writing is so cliche'.  The claim that George Bush was 'mixed up'
>with <such and such> is not worth commenting on.
>
>>>       By the way, I am from the south too and I don't think Clinton
>>>is a hillbilly by any means but he is certainly quite a few steps
>>>from being worthy of being president.  But it is useless and irrelevant
>> 
>>Clinton  is  every  bit  as  worthy as any gov that has been this country's
>>president.   And  he's  certainly  a lot more worthy than the grade B movie
>>actor gov we used to have.
>
>And that just goes to show you JUST how effective Ronald Reagan was.
>
>And beleive you me - being governor of California like Reagan was is a hell
>of a lot more qualifying that Arkansas, IMO.
>
>>>to debate it now.  I think history will show thathe Americna people
>>>made a grave mistake by electing Clinton.
>> 
>>History  has  already  shown that electing Reagan/Bush is the worst mistake
>>the  American  people have ever made with the only possible exception being
>>the that they elected Bush/Quayle as a follow up.
>
>Oh, *PLEASE* tell me how _we_ _all_ _know_ that Reagan Bush was 'the worst mista
>ke..' blah blah blah.  Don't you think there MIGHT be a reason why the past 
>*12* years Republicans have held the Executive branch??  Heck, if George Bush
>had won and there had been another, oh say, *30* years more of Republicans
>as Presidents, you're the type, after a Democrat won after those 42 years would
>say <Dan puts on his Dan Rather voice> "Yes, and this jsut shows how
>the American people totally reject the past 42 years of Republicanism, blah blah"
>
>>>                                               -Brad
>>ObAdv: I'm the only one I know of who suggested/predicted the use of the
>>       68EC020 in a low-end Amiga, (my A2200) :)
>
>ObAd: What i nthe hell in an Amiga2200?
>
>> Jay Phillips * Tampa Florida
>--
>Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
>"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
>lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
>                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  


According to an article in the Boston Sunday Globe for 11/15/92:

Clinton's top economic adviser said that action on many of his campaign
promises, including a middle-class tax cut, will be postponed until the
economy is strong enough to sustain new pressures on the federal budget.

Hah!

Business as usual.

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