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From: GJAMES@husky1.stmarys.ca (GJames)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Server for MS-Windows
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:19:59 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Saint Mary's University

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:37:51 GMT
Message-Id: <GJAMES.119@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.ms,comp.windows.x

In article <1992Aug18.143519.20577@esleng.ocunix.on.ca> rgb@esleng.ocunix.on.ca (Richard Briggs) writes:

>In article <17AUG199216461607@moose.cccs.umn.edu> rwh@moose.cccs.umn.edu writes:
>>In article <1w9mqsp.feng@netcom.com>, feng@netcom.com (FengHeng Wu) writes:
>>> I am planning to buy a X-Server that can run under MS-Windows -
>>> basically a product that can allow me to run X-applications in
>>> MS-Windows environment. So far I have come across only one such
>>> product - (HCL-eXceed/W by Hummingbird, Canada, which costs around
>>> $500). Could you suggest me some other such products, with some
>>> discussion on the relative merits, prices etc. ? Or a suitable
>>> newsgroup where I should post this ?
>>
>>DEC markets eXcursion for Windows for around $325 US discounted. I'm
>>afraid I don't have any first hand experience.
>>
>>--rick
>>
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>XVision exists which needs TCP/IP services underneath.  X and MS windows
>coexist, with clipboard services.  I have no idea who sells this.

>-- 
>__________________________________________________________________________
> Richard Guy Briggs         |   briggs@aix1.uottawa.ca
> Excalibur Systems Limited  |   rgb@[esleng|excalibur].ocunix.on.ca
> Kanata, Ontario, Canada    |   [esleng|excalibur]!rgb
Ok Where di I get a PD xserver
From: ett@sparky.pplant.carleton.ca (E. Todd Taylor)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: xterm, function keys and informix app problems
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:04:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Carleton University

Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:34:48 GMT
Message-Id: <ett.713648088@cunews>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.wizards,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps

We presently have informix (v2.10.03B) based applications running 
on 386's with Interactive Unix (5.3.2) which were originally 
accessed by RS-232 based vt100 compatible terminals (with 
"termcap" def'ns).

We have replaced the dumb terminals with X-terminals (HDS FX-15's) 
and are now trying to drive the apps using "xterm".  Since the apps
are function key and escape key driven (ie. onkey() and interrupt),
we seem to be having intermittent problems now that we're on a 
tcp/ip based network.

The problem is that the apps don't seem to be able to consistently
distiguish between the escape sequences and the escape key itself,
which is causing incredible grief and misery.

Is it a timing problem due to net load?  How about the stty 
settings informix sets when running an app? Is it simply a change 
to the termcap definition? Or, do we have to re-write the way we 
drive our apps (read: we do not want to do this :-{ )

Let me know what you guys think.  Every bit of feedback is very
deeply appreciated. Oh, don't post if possible (note the cross
postings) but mail me directly at the address below with your 
responses.

Cheers...Todd

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From: schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Odd Mwm behavior... Motif version 1.1
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:52:51 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:23:51 GMT
Message-Id: <schwager.713816631@mike.cs.uiuc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Or is that "behaviour" to you?  Well, whatever side of the Great Pond you
are on, Xpert, could you please answer this:

Whenever I move or resize a window, I want to have it report to me the x,y
position of the window or the size of the window.  It will do this only if
I first push the window to the back.  I can bring it to the front or leave
it back there, it doesn't matter what I do after that, as long as I push it
to the back once.  The window x, y position report or resize report will
come up foreverafter.

Any ideas?  A weird setting in my .mwmrc file?  I can't imagine what it
could be.
-Mike
From: rbraun@spdcc.com (Rich Braun)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X technical training
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:41:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Kronos Inc., Waltham, Mass.

Date: 18 Aug 92 22:38:29 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug18.223829.24010@spdcc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.misc

I have an employee who is interested in an X/Motif training course
offered by Addison-Wesley's Technology Exchange Company.  The literature
cites course authors Wayne Dyksen and John Korb of Purdue University,
and course advisor Oliver Jones of Picturetel.

Since this is a high-priced 4-day course, before making a recommendation
on taking it I want references on this company and these course instructors.
A friend of mine who was involved in X implementation long ago says he
doesn't know who's who in the industry today, so I'm asking USENET.  Does
it make sense for a person to get introduced to X programming through
one of these intensive intro courses, or is there a better way?  Can the
course help to put a developer in touch with peers for ongoing assistance?

Please send email or post.

Thanks,
-rich
richb@kronos.com
From: ware@organ.cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter Ware)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: How do you create a Modeless popup Widget?
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:53:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:38:09 GMT
Message-Id: <WARE.92Aug14113809@organ.cis.ohio-state.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

To create a modeless popup:
	XtPopup (shell, XtGrabNone)
or if you want to do it from a callback, use
	XtCallbackNone ()
the existing action, XtMenuPopup() attempts to be clever and
won't work for you.

--pete
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           ware@cis.ohio-state.edu
           (614) 538-0965
Too bad the Nike slogan isn't "Just Do It Right" instead of "Just Do It"
From: ernohb!token@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (thomas kendelbacher)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Why is initial screen I/O so slow? (=NeWS!)
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:46:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Erno Raumfahrttechnik GmbH, Bremen, Germany

Date: 17 Aug 92 10:26:02 GMT
Message-Id: <1738@ernohb.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x

In article <CKD.92Aug15180857@loiosh.eff.org>, ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
|> PG> == Philippe Grant <baby@info.polymtl.ca> 
|> LQ> == lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin) writes:
|> 
|>  LQ> You can get a small speed-up by disabling the "OpenWinsow 3" banner
|>  LQ> at startup.
|> 
|>  PG> ...and would you share the wealth?  How would a common mortal go
|>  PG> about disabling this banner?
|> 
|> Well, we did it here by installing X11R5 (which has other advantages,
|> and the primary disadvantage is that we can't use AnswerBook [easily]).

That spells out as "in order to speed up OpenWindows-3 startup,
forget it and use something else instead ???"

Puzzled,
Thomas Kendelbacher  |  email : tkendel@ernohb.uucp
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From: sonic@cray.com (Curtis L. Swanson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: PRIVATE MESSAGE FOR HARRY MANDELL
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:45:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 19 Aug 92 17:43:23 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug19.124324.595@walter.cray.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python,alt.postmodern,comp.windows.x,misc.forsale,misc.jobs.misc,rec.humor,rec.pets.dogs,soc.singles,talk.politics.guns

Ohh, goody!
From: bongo@splash.princeton.edu (Ameet A. Ravel)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Wanted: a PD X-tool for graphical data presentation (SOLUTION)
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:39:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Princeton University

Date: 13 Aug 92 16:29:37 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug13.162937.10520@Princeton.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.motif,comp.windows.apps,comp.windows.misc,alt.sources.wanted

In article <1992Aug11.095345.12421@dfki.uni-sb.de> wladimir@kik-11.dfki.uni-sb.de (W Minenko) writes:
>We,from the DFKI (German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence)
>in Saarbruecken (Germany) need for the Siemens KIK-Project a graphic-tool to
>present data on the screen and as hardcopy.
> ...
>The tool shall be facilitate the following features: 
>
>- X-Y plots for scientific style graphics
>- line and bar plots
>- automatic or manual scalling of axis values

At GFDL, we use a public-domain Motif and Xview oriented package
called ACE/gr, written by Paul Turner.  It is mouse and menu driven,
and it handles x-y scatterplots, lineplots, bargraphs, and also
sophisticated data analysis like FFT analysis, running averages,
polynomial fits, etc.

You can find it by anonymous FTP from amb4.ese.ogi.edu [129.95.20.76]
in pub/acegr.

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email: bongo@splash.princeton.edu                Princeton, N.J. 08542
   or: aar@gfdl.gov                                phone: 609-452-6563
From: dankoski@leland.stanford.edu (Paul Dankoski)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Does a mathematical symbol generator exist for LaTeX ??
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:32:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Stanford University

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 20:48:30 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.204830.25431@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


   Perhaps this isn't the best newsgroup to post this question
to, so if anyone is aware of gurus in some other newsgroup then
please let me know.

   What I am looking for is some sort of tool (perhaps based
upon X windows), that will allow me to visually create
mathematical symbols and then have it generate the corresponding
LaTeX ascii-based code to print out these symbols.

Thanks

-- 
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email: dankoski@isl.stanford.edu
W1: (415) 723-3024
W2: (415) 725-6948
From: mlord@bmers63.bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Windows on Non-UNIX systems
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:00:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, Canada
From: feizal@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (Feizal Mirza)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Looking for a spline generator program
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:28:08 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 19:34:14 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug20.193414.7079@chpc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x.pex

Hi

I am looking for a spline generation program. The thing is that I want
to replace XDrawLine in my application to something like
XDrawSpline !!.


Feizal
UT-CHPC
Austin
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Center for High Performance Computing     Snailnet: 10100 Burnet Road
The University of Texas System                      Austin, Texas 78758
From: rheithof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Russell Heithoff)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: drawarc algorithm
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:11:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)

Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:25:15 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug12.202515.17072@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In the Xlib Reference Manual, the description for XDrawArc states:


	"Angles are computed based solely on the coordinte
	 system and ignore the aspect ratio.  In other words,
	 if the bounding rectangle of the arc is not square
	 and angle1 is zero and angle2 is (45x64) (i.e. 45
	 degrees), a line drawn from the center of the bounding
	 box through the endpoint of the arc will not pass
	 through the corner of the rectangle".

This statement might address my problem, but if so, I'm not sure how.  The
problem becomes evident in the following sequence of events:

	1 - Calculate the angle from the horizontal to a line defined
		by the center of the bounding box to some arbitrary point.
		The angle is measured in a counter clockwise direction.
		Call this a2.

	2 - Draw the line described in step one.  The length of the line
		is should be very long.

	3 - Use XDrawArc to draw an arc using the same bounding box 
		mentioned in step one, zero as angle1 and the angle
		calculated in step one (i.e. a2) as angle 2.

The problem now becomes evident.  The end of the arc does not meet the
line.  (Its not due to the line length).

I would like to know what angle should be specified to get the arc to 
meet the line.  The problem disipates as the arc approaches multiples of
90 degrees and is at its worst at (multiples of 90) - 45 degrees.

I am developing a graphical editor and determining the end points of
arcs is an absolute necessity.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

270
From: kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: How to know a client itself has been killed?
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:35:03 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:24:49 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.152449.2367@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <20622@optima.cs.arizona.edu> azhao@cs.arizona.edu (Qiang Alex Zhao) writes:
>
>How can a client know that itself has been killed by the window manager?

RTFICCCM, (Read the Fine Inter-Client Communications Conventions Manual),
the section on WM_PROTOCOLS and WM_DELETE_WINDOW is your best bet.

Other alternatives include selecting SubstructureNotify and handling the
DestroyNotify event on your application top level window, or catching the
error when the client side detects that the server has closed the connection.

-- 

Kaleb Keithley                          kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov

Not authorized, in any way, shape, or form, to speak for anyone.
From: hartkopp@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (Oliver Hartkopp)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Monochrome Displays for X386 - please help!
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:01:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany

Date: 13 Aug 92 16:54:58 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug13.165458.625@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x

Dear Reader!
Two months ago i got a Sigma LaserView Plus Card and 19" Monitor for my
AT486. The Monitor has 1664x1200 dots and up to 4 grayshades (with two
bitplanes - it is mostly used with 1 bitplane pure monochrome).
Because it was a 2nd hand deal, and the german distributor changed
from REIN electronic to ?, i am out of support for this fine display.
I'm running Linux (a UN*X derivate) on my AT and have the capability
to compile a new X386 server. My problem is getting information
how to hack the X11-sources or if anyone had done this before. 

cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes:
>The LaserView plus is supported by the native ISC X (no extra drivers
>are necessary) and works quite well in that environment.

Is there any chance to get any sources or support via ftp or email? 
If you have so: Please send me email-adresses or names of ftp servers
where i might get something about monochrome X  Displays e.g. email
adress of ISC (== INTERACTIVE ??) or Sigma Designs Inc., ... 

It would be great, if i could run my X on this monitor, snief!

	thanks, Olli (hartkopp@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de or DK4AM@DK0MAV.DEU.EU 73!)
From: Dag.H.Wanvik@kvatro.no (Dag H. Wanvik)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: VAXstation: How to install new fonts?
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:19:53 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Kvatro A/S, Trondheim, Norway

Date: 13 Aug 92 20:06:10 GMT
Message-Id: <DAG.H.WANVIK.92Aug13220610@grim.kvatro.no>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.os.vms


Hi netters!

I am using my VAXstation with DECWindows (VMS) as an X server for many
UNIX X based programs.

I have a set of bdf fonts. Can anyone please tell how I can extend my
X server with the new fonts under VMS?

Dag

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From: markkj@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Mark Johnston)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Extracting data from pixmaps...
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:17:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

Date: 18 Aug 92 03:26:23 GMT
Message-Id: <markkj.714108383@munagin>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


	Hi, I was wondering if anyone could give me some more information on
extracting the data stored in pixmaps after they are created?  What i am doing
is creating a pixmap with a pointer to some memory allocated with calloc().
After creating the pixmap, I draw lots of lines, and some images into it.  I
tried dumping the data in the original memory out to a file, but 'od' tells
me that there is nothing but 0's in the pixmap...

    As far as I can see, there are not appropriate X calls to get the data
out of the pixmap.  Once I have the data, I want to pass it to a routine
that converts it to a gif.

	Thanks in advance.


		Mark Johnston.

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#include "/dev/null"
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From: devil@diablery.10a.com (Gil Tene)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Available PEX toolkits?
Date: 16 Aug 92 03:16:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Diablery, cloud seven, Hell. (also 10A Inc.)

Date: 15 Aug 92 21:32:50 GMT
Message-Id: <468@imp.diablery.10A.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.pex,comp.windows.x

Hello PEXland,

I am looking for information on available PEX toolkits/libraries.
I realize these may be novice questions, but information on this
subject seems hard to find. 

- Is there a PHIGS/PHIGS+ compatible library that interfaces to PEX 
  (One that lets you simply link with working PHIGS code).

- Any other toolkits?

- Are there any standards trends out there?

- What is the "safest, most standard" toolkit to use on a long-lasting
  project? 

- What is the difference between a PEX library and a PEX toolkit?
  (e.g. PEXlib vs. PEXtk)

- Where is the best place to get up-to-date informations and
  documentation on PEX related subjects?

Responses will be summerized and posted to the net.

AdvThanks,

-- Gil.

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From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Is there a GUI for SCCS available ?
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:55:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SETT Inc.

Date: 18 Aug 92 14:31:46 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug18.143146.13661@evb.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.windows.x


I am looking for a GUI for SCCS. Was wondering if a 
public domain software is available ?
Please respond by email.

thanks



-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
From: bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Looking for Imake expert who also knows OpenWindows
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:06:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 12 Aug 92 16:05:55 GMT
Message-Id: <6556@uakari.primate.wisc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.open-look

re: patching OW config files 'n' such so they actually work, there's
a patch to xmkmf that's supposed to help (excerpt below).  I have a
question about it at the end.
-----------------------------
| Being an internet squirrel :-), I have it right here. Thanks go to Greg, of
| course, for writing it.
 
| -PaulR.
 
| Message follows:
 
| Assuming you want to maintain an OpenWindows environment (i.e., if you run
| "xmkmf" and then "make" and then "make install", you expect the final product
| to get installed in $OPENWINHOME/bin et al.), here's a solution that should
| also work for sources that expect X11 R5 (i.e., they have R5-ish Imakefiles).
| 
| Just cd to $OPENWINHOME and apply these simple patches:
| 
| --snip-snip---------------------------------------------------------------------
| *** bin/xmkmf.orig	Wed Sep 18 07:02:02 1991
| --- bin/xmkmf	Tue Aug  6 00:39:20 1991
| ***************
| *** 30,34 ****
|   
|   elif [ -n "$OPENWINHOME" ]; then
| ! 	args="-DUseInstalled "$OPENWINHOME/lib/config
|   
|   else
| --- 30,34 ----
|   
|   elif [ -n "$OPENWINHOME" ]; then
| ! 	args="-I$OPENWINHOME/lib/config -DUseInstalled -DXCOMM="/**/#" "$OPENWINHOME/lib/config

--------------------

My question: just what exactly is that last argument in "args" supposed
to do?  Stock X11R4/X11R5 xmkmf.cpp sets args to

	"-DUseInstalled "CONFIGDIRSPEC

which turns into

	"-DUseInstalled "-I/usr/lib/X11/config

if you use the default configuration file install directory.

It looks to me like the OW xmkmf (both the original and the patched
versions) are broken - i.e., like someone changed the /usr/lib/X11/config
to $OPENWINHOME/lib/config, but ALSO took out the -I.  That could be kind
of important for telling imake where to look for config files...

Paul DuBois
dubois@primate.wisc.edu
From: floyd@ni.umd.edu (Jim Matthews)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: HELP! obscuring transient window with parent
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:00:08 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Maryland

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:23:38 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug13.212338.4053@ni.umd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm creating an application with one top level (main window).  Want
to have "property sheets" (semi-transient windows that set various
attributes or have frequently used functions) which are iconified with
the main application, can't be iconified on their own, but can be
obscurred by the main window.

  Here's what I've tried:

  Having property sheets as topLevelShells and setting MwmDecorations
  to try to keep from iconifying.  Problem: Window Manager
  (Openwindows 3.0) doesn't seem to acknowledge these.  Running Mwm isn't
  an option.  topLevelShells can be iconified separately from main window.

  Having a main window that is a topLevelShell child of a window that is
  not visible (placed off the screen) and having the transientShell dialogs
  as children of this invisible window.  This works, however, I have to
  add an event handler to know when the topLevelShell gets (de)iconified
  so that I can iconify the invisible main, which inturn iconifies the
  transientShell children.  Problem:  when iconify the transients, the
  window manager windows don't always get refreshed correctly.  Since the
  main window is iconified before the transients, when the transients get
  iconified the restore what had been under them (possible part of the main
  window) which isn't correct.  Also, if start application with -iconify,
  the invisible window is iconifed, but the main window isn't.  I get
  the XmNiconic attribute and try to set it for the main window, but it
  doesn't seem to work.  Since the real main is iconic, trying to iconify it
  has no affect, so it doesn't make transient children iconify.

  Any help about other possible solutions, or improvements on what I've 
already tried will be greatly appreciated.

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