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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: letterboxed vhs movie
Date: 5 Sep 92 08:47:41 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

RC>What movies are letterboxed on VHS? The only one I've seen around
RC>is Manhattan.

     Several movies have been released in letterbox on VHS, but they're
     not very common.  Aside from Woody Allen's "Manhattan," the
     Steven Spielberg movies "The Color Purple" and "Always" have also
     been released on letterboxed VHS.  Of course, with these movies the
     letterboxing is minimal, so most viewers probably wouldn't even
     notice the difference.

     Ted Turner has released several movies on letterboxed VHS, including
     "2001: A Space Odyssey" (the new videotape has a picture of the
     Star Child on the cover and the logo "Deluxe Letter-Box Edition"),
     "It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World" and "Spartacus."

     "Lawrence Of Arabia" was also released on "wide-screen format" VHS
     videotape a couple of years ago.

     In addition, I've seen several foreign movies on videotape that
     were letterboxed, notably "The Hidden Fortress" by Akira Kurosawa.

     And I believe there was a $40 "Super VHS" videotape release of
     "Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade" that was also letterboxed.
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From: quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nyarlathotep)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Montreal Film Festival
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:28:19 GMT
Reply-To: quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nyarlathotep)
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Sep10.214231.25142@infonode.ingr.com> gary@.ingr.com (Gary Girzon) writes:
>Could someone post the winner of the Montreal Film Festival?
>

 It's "le cote sombre du coeur" or The Dark Side of the Heart, it's
a argentina/canada co-production. Everybody agreed (even the critics)
that it was the best movies in the competition...

>
>For those interested in world cinema, Montreal is a great film festival!
 Yep, and the most interesting thing is that they show all the press
conferences and interviews and film clips 24hrs a day on cable for the
length of the festival, so you get a glimpse of behind the scene...

>-- 
>"Somebody's boring me... I think it's me"
>					Dylan Thomas
>
>Gary Girzon	gary@optron.ingr.com		   (508) 250-8691
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From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Subject: Re: REALLLLLLY bad embarassing movies
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 16:01:31 GMT
Organization: Not

ivy@chem.ucsd.edu (Ivy Blumberg) writes: 

> I can't believe noone has mentioned "Pink Flamingos"
> Talk about revolting! 

I thought Pink Flamingos was funny. Tasteless, but funny.
I thought "Female Trouble" was funnier though.

Just so I can offend EVERYBODY, two of my most hated/embarassing
films of childhood were, Jabberwocky (except "A gift!") and
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes (except "Pass the ketchup!. Uh...")
My dad LOVED that movie (tomatoes, that is)
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From: HF.SKW@forsythe.stanford.edu (Susan Wandling)
Subject: Siesta Comments
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:07:24 GMT

Sorry for reposting but can't  figure out how to excerpt
original poster's text and differentiate from mine.


In  Item: rec.arts.movies 148827
trm@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Tara R. Marchand)

writes:


I just finished watching _Siesta_, which stars Ellen Barkin,
Gabriel Byrne,

Comments below:



Saw this a couple years ago.  Kinda fascinating.  (Side note:
aren't Byrne & Barkin married/divorced/separated and/or parenting
together?)  (Another side note:  Wasn't Byrne incredible in
"Miller's Crossing", and did he get any recognition at all for his
performance?)  I think Barkin's really cool.   Now in retrospect, it
reminds me quite a bit of:  POSSIBLE SPOILER










Jacob's Ladder.   In both movies what intrigued me was the whole
dying dream sequence, the meshing of conscious and unconscious.  It
is not a favorite theme in movies for some people, my husband for
instance, but like I said, it fascinates me.  I'll have to look up
who directed Siesta, I don't remember.  Another side note:  I think
Byrne and Sands play Byron and Shelley in another movie (or was it
in this one?  lots of intertextuality it seemed.)  Oh well.  I'd
like to read some other reactions to Siesta as well.

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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: War Movies
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa  
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:24:07 GMT

In <94553@bu.edu> abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky) writes:

>Anyone else remember the German film "The Bridge" ca. 1967? It was about a
>doomed (pretty much) squad of Hitler Youth/Home Guard troops defending a
>bridge in the last months of WWII. B/W, not bad, as I recall.

>Also from the same period, "The Victors." Remember the scene with the
>half-mad one-eyed British officer with the Sten gun?

Cool - this is what I was hoping for; Fodder for my movie rental
list. 
-- 
gary cooper (not the dead one)     "Non Dignis Sum!" - Waynus and Gartus 
Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 17:09:08 -0400 
From: "James A. Lane" <jl3a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: HELP! Soundtrack Request

I lost the address for the soundtrack-request mailing list- a friend
of mine has been looking for the soundtrack to Flatliners for some
time; does anyone know if it has been released?  Is it available?
Has anyone ever actually SEEN it in a store? [And if anyone
knows the soundtrack mailing list address, could you email it
to me?]  

Many thanks!

Jim

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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Terminator/Franco Colombu
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa  
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:53:26 GMT

>	Franco had a role in the Running Man also, does anybody know what part 
>he played in that movie.


No - but he was "the Pictish Scout" in _Conan the Barbarian_ (the 
"painted" guy who crouches on the boulder in the beginning of the
movie) 
-- 
gary cooper (not the dead one)

                             Luddites Unite! 
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: The Thing and White Fang
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:27:27 GMT

In article <1578@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole) writes:
>
>Last night I was watching John Carpenter's  The Thing and a friend
>commented that the dog seen at the beginning looks very much like
>the dog in White Fang.  I find this a little hard to believe, but
>we were wondering if anyone reading this group might know if the 
>dogs in the two movies are the same one.  She says the dog in White

They are both played by John Lithgow.  It's difficult to tell the
difference in age due to the heavy makeup, but notice the difference
in friskiness.

Hope this helps.

GM(a-t-t-s)S
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From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut Question -- Possible Spoiler
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:37:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:

> On the other hand, he doesn't seem to have the same strength or pain
> tolerance as the known replicants.  

Neither does Rachel, clearly a Nexus 6, whom he manhandles at his door.

Drifting along...

Incidentally, the eye-glow was most likely an in-camera effect deliberately
produced by placing a light source close to lens axis.  This effect is known
as "red eye", resulting from retinal reflection, and is the bane of snapshot
photographers.  Any scene which features a replicant and a human will have
both exhibiting red-eye.  The second appartment scene between Deckard and
Rachel, it was unavoidable (and convenient for the plot).

Photographers and cinematographers normally go to some lengths to avoid
red-eye, by placing lights several degrees off axis, or pre-lighting to get
the subject's iris' to close down.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
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                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:52:46 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <BALDWIN.92Sep10144325@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil> baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin) writes:
>Oh, I've got it:  "The Black Hole."  You know, the Disney movie where the
>good robot goes to Heaven in the end and the bad robot goes to Hell.  
>
>Top THAT one!
>--
Darn!  I was just about to post the same answer but you beat me to it. :-)
However, I have another one that was just about as bad (maybe worse).
It was called "Saturn 3" and starred Farrah Fawcett and Kirk Douglas.
Even Maltin say of this movie "good-looking movie with nothing inside."
He's right!  It was so awful that I cringed as I came out of the theater.

Marg
From: rjm@berlin.asd.sgi.com (Rolf Mueller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Blade Runner Director's Cut - Palo Alto
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:03:30 GMT
Reply-To: rjm@sgi.com
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA.

In article <mdelaney.715992719@helios>, mdelaney@informix.com (Unix Dude) writes:
|> It will be playing in Palo Alto (at the PA Square... I think).  I'm not sure
|> if that means that it will NOT be shown in Berkeley (how exclusive is an
|> exclusive engagement).
|> 

Actually, it's at the Varsity in Palo Alto, on University Ave, starting Friday.

-rolf
rjm@sgi.com
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From: dbox@net4.ics.uci.edu (Don Box)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: George A Romero's Zombie films
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:37:06 GMT
Reply-To: dbox@ics.uci.edu (Don Box)
Organization: UC Irvine

In article <1992Sep8.144333.6185@jade.tufts.edu> gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.144231.17607@syma.sussex.ac.uk> nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type) writes:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>What are the series of Zombie films made by George A Romero, and what
>>order do they come in ???
>
>	First, Night of the Living Dead (not the remake).  Then, Dawn of the
>Dead.  Finally, Day of the Dead.  However, these movies have no characters in
>common, and continuity isn't a major issue, so it really doesn't matter what
>order you see them in.
>


And don't forget "Document of the Dead," a documentary on Romero/Dead
that features some unseen clips from Dawn as well as some behind the
scenes stuff on the filming of "Two Evil Eyes."  This documentary is
pretty old, so Romero must have had a very hard time finding someone
to release TEE, which makes sense, given the finished product.

I think Document OTD was released only on home video.  One fact I
found interesting was that Savini had a lot of control over the last
half of the film (Dawn), which explains why the movie sort of falls
apart after the appearance of the motorcycle enthusiasts.  Contrast
the second half of Dawn with the Tenament scene early in the film.
What a difference!  The tenament scene is equally gore-filled, but
much more intense.  Probably one of the best sequences ever to appear
in a horror film.  The shock of seeing the woman's arm and neck being
chewed was far more powerful than the intestine-spilling finale, which
IMHO was simply a Savini ego-fest.

DB

PS: I do think that the Dead genre would make an ideal basis for a
saturday morning children's series (probably animated, though).  It
would crush ren-n-stimpy in the ratings...
From: tesmer@pandora.bio.purdue.edu (John Tesmer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director Cut: What cities???
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:59:06 GMT
Organization: Purdue University, Dept. of Biological Sciences

In article <18vuduINN3tg@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>So could someone post a list of the cities BR is playing in.
>I had heard it's in Boston. It this correct??
>-- 
This would be very useful!
Also, anyone know if and when the film will be generally released??
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From: llarsen%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Loren Larsen)
Subject: Harrison Ford Question
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:11:21 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

Is Harrison Ford some sort of recluse?  I have never seen an interview with 
him or seen him in those pictures of the starts going to previews or parties.
Does he give interviews?  Am I just not looking in the right places?  All I
know about him is that he does great movies.  I can't think of a flop that he's
been in.  

Thanks,
Loren
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Blade Runner Director Cut: What cities???
Date: 13 Sep 1992 17:40:14 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

So could someone post a list of the cities BR is playing in.
I had heard it's in Boston. It this correct??
-- 
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: whatever-happened-to endings
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:15:03 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <BuFq66.A2I@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>
>I am interested in what films end the way American Graffiti ended, that
>is, where they quickly mention whatever happened to each character. The
>other ones I can think of are The Commitments, and the French Connection.
>And Animal House.
>Which other films end this way?

Nine to Five did.




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From: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron Higgins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Blade Runner - DC
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:16:24 GMT
Reply-To: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lightning Systems, Inc.

Blade Runner the Dirctors Cut is coming to the Oriental Theatre in
Milwaukee staring Sept. 11th.

A bunch of us will be going ASAP to see it.  However, if it's coming to a
THX theatre in the Chicago area, we'll be heading south!

The closest THX certified theatre is in a north Chicago suburb.  Does
anyone know if the DC of Blade Runner is going to make an appearance in a
Chicago area THX theatre?

Thanks,
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From: 2fatguys@tdis.icpsr.umich.edu (Too Fat Guys)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.reviews
Subject: REVIEW: SNEAKERS
Summary: r.a.m.r. #01516
Keywords: author=2FatGuys
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:08:33 GMT
Reply-To: 2fatguys@tdis.icpsr.umich.edu (Too Fat Guys)
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: 40 Piece Bucket and a Milkshake Publishing


			     SNEAKERS
		    A film review by Too FAT Guys
		    Copyright 1992  by Roger & Me

Roger:  I love movies made by liberals!

Roger:	Of course, this means round two of Dan vs. Hollywood. I'll be
	watching C-SPAN for his review.

Roger:  SNEAKERS, a techno-thriller, engages in some of the least subtle
	government bashing in recent memory.  Martin Bishop (Robert
	Redford) runs a computer security company with "Mother" (Dan
	Aykroyd), "Whistler" (David Strathairn), Crease (Sidney Poitier),
	and Carl (River Phoenix).  They are hired by NSA agents to steal a
	black box.  After retrieving the device, they soon discover what
	it is: the ultimate code breaker.

Roger:	And this is really the only portion of the movie whose technical
	accuracy can be questioned. Using the black box, they break into
	several services, such as the "National Power Grid".  Aside from
	the improbability of such a service existing, the NPG seems to
	trust encryption enough to do away with authentication.

Roger:  There were also several other technical inaccuracies, but I was
	willing to excuse them.  Accuracy is an admirable goal, but it
	doesn't always make great cinema.  At least they bothered to hire
	a technical advisor.

Roger:	The director and co-writter, Phil Alden Robinson, is also a
	techno-phile. As a matter of fact, he could well be reading this,
	since he's a CompuServe subscriber (hi, Phil).  Perhaps his
	computer savvy explains the film's view of our information-based
	world order.

Roger:  Information plays so great a role, that the villain seems almost
	incidental.  The real target of abuse is the government.
	Certainly, the film seems to be saying that the government is the
	greatest abuser of information.  And who could fault anyone for
	criticizing the government?

Roger:	Not I.  I always enjoy a few rounds of government bashing.  In
	fact, I enjoyed most of the film.  It was suspenseful and
	well-paced.  The plot was well thought out, believable, and held
	together well.  I give this film a thumbs up.

Roger:  With little exception, the acting was fine.  With a cast this
	size, there's not much room for character depth.  However, it's
	hard to miss with this many Academy nominated actors.  I give this
	film a thumbs up as well.

Roger:	So, that's two thumbs up for SNEAKERS.  That's all for now --
	the tty is closed.
-- 
For the latest review by the Too FAT Guys, finger roger@icpsr.umich.edu.
From: Sarah_M._Elkins.Wbst139@xerox.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.reviews
Subject: REVIEW: SNEAKERS
Summary: r.a.m.r. #01517
Keywords: author=Elkins
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:08:56 GMT
Reply-To: Sarah_M._Elkins.Wbst139@xerox.com
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Xerox Corp.


				    SNEAKERS
		       A film review by Sarah M. Elkins
			Copyright 1992 Sarah M. Elkins

SNEAKERS: Action/"sting" movie, up-to-date with cryptology, hacking,
and the NSA; high-tech thefts and double-crosses, the good guys against
"the gummint," or is it really?  Or *is* it really?

Plot/kick-off: Marty, the head of a security consulting firm with a 60's
rebel/hacker past, is threatened with jail unless he helps the National
Security Agency (an actual US government agency, which does seem to have
been overstepping its bounds lately, initially charged with monitoring
and decoding any signal transmission relevant to the security of the
United States) steal a cryptologist mathematician's  "black box"
invention.  He enlists his firm's help to get it and more action results
from this.

Characters/acting: Robert Redford is believable as Marty.  Mary
McDonnell was good as Liz, Marty's ex-girlfriend who got tired of
Marty's "boys club" but gets dragged back into Marty's life when he
needs her help.  Dan Ackroyd was hilarious as "Mother," the phone phreak
who lives the Illuminati trilogy, perhaps a little too deeply
(conspiracy theories abound).  Sidney Poitier was a pleasure to see as
the ex-CIA man.  These players all seemed well into their parts, not
"look I'm Robert Redford" etc.  Unfortunately, Ben Kingsley and James
Earl Jones seemed a little bit over-the-top as the characters they
played.  Ben!  Stop playing these power-hungry smoothies and get back to
Pascali's Island!  James!  Stop these cameos and get a real role!  Oh.
Please excuse me for my outburst.  :-)

Cinematography/FX: okay.

Score/Sound: good varied soundtrack, also good sound FX.

Violence/Gore: some bullets flying, a couple of dead bodies (no gore),
a few fights and slugs.

Language: probably some, not a lot.

Skin/situations: innuendos, some kissing and foreplay.

Analysis: Great throwaway lines, good twists and turns,
edge-of-your-seat at times, but a little self-indulgent, especially at
the end (think TERMINATOR 2).  I feel like one final draft could have
ironed out some of the movie's flaws (a couple of inconsistencies, a
couple of doubtful scenarios, and the overplaying mentioned above), but
on the other hand I didn't think about most of them until the day after.
It was nice to see a movie take a crack at the NSA (anyone interested in
our right to privacy in communications should read "Decrypting the
Puzzle Palace," John Perry Barlow's analysis of the recent
behind-the-scenes actions and initiatives of the NSA, printed in
COMMUNICATIONS OF THE ACM, June 1992 and reprinted in EFFECTOR ONLINE,
Issue 3.1, July 29, 1992).  Minor flaws and serious considerations of
our eroding rights aside, however, SNEAKERS was a fun movie with some
cool scenes/tricks to cheer at, certainly an enjoyable ride.
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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Anthony Perkins: Aids: Died yesterday.
Keywords: aids,physcho
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:05:26 GMT

In article <sheppamj.716406490@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> sheppamj@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Matthew Sheppard) writes:
> just got confirmation from good old CNN.  Anthony Perkins has dies from
> complications resulting from AIDS.

> This is the first occurance of a famous person contracting the disease
> and having it run it's course and the media NOT making a show of it.

Not at all. Off hand, I can only think of Brad Davis, but there have been many
others.

Michael

-- 
Michael Kaufman | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on
 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:55:06 EDT
From: <MMB3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: RE: Woody Allen Movies

Woody Allen used to make movies, now he makes films.  My sense is that awhile
ago, perhaps beginning with Zelig or Purple Rose of Cairo, he hasn't been
making movies to please the movie going public, he has been making films
to please himself.  He has been making 'art'.  They mean something to him
personally, not to the rest of us.  If it hits a theme that others can
respond to, then the movie going public likes it and it is a hit.  If it
doesn't, Allen's fans go to it.
   It seems to me that Alice is a valentine to Mia.  (or should I say was??)
Mia, like Alice, seems to be caught between the vacuous life of a wealthy
New Yorker, and doing something meaningful with her life (adoption mania?).
I read somewhere recently that Mother Teresa is one of Mia's big heroes,
as she was Alice's.
   I like some of his recent efforts, but not all.  Radio Days is my
favorite.  It is the film I would make if I could.  Except my music
would be Donovan and Eleanor Rigby and it would be set in the suburbs
ala Wonder Years.
                                  Melissa Brown
From: otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut (possible *spoilers*?)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 23:35:42 EDT
Organization: Jyvaskyla Electronic Mailbox

ghost@netcom.Netcom.COM (Jay Adelson) writes:

>    I don't know about you, but when the two of them (Harrison Ford
>    and Sean Young) are driving away at the end, *I* felt it was a bit
>    cheesy, especially with reflections of trees going by in the windows.
>    I thought the car could fly?

Deckard's car was just a car.  The "Spinners" were all cop units.

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