HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Sir Justin the Clueless
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:29:07 GMT


In article <thaaang.717922871@cwis>, thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
|> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >In article <BvBt37.IoJ@unix.amherst.edu>, twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
|> >|> In article <1992Sep28.134629.13260@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|> >I have the email from people
|> >|> >who think like me but are kept from posting by the cabal.
|> >|> 
|> >|> There is _no_ email.
|> 
|> >But there is!  I just got mail telling me that they'd
|> >pumped 20,000 gallons of rancid sperm out of....
|> 
|> >I shouldn't, it was *private* email.
|> 
|> Damn right! Shut your piehole.

I have this odd patched-together image of what John looks
like based on different descriptions I've received over
lo these many months.  And that image saying a word
like "piehole", well, I had to clean the coffee out of
my keyboard before I could type this.

So if Citibank has to raise its credit card interest
rates you'll know it's to cover equipment replacement
and it's all *your* fault.

-- 
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Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi,alt.bbs.lists
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 20:03:18 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <72989@apple.Apple.COM>

richard@apple.com writes:
>I am but a messenger.  *I* did not write the article.

Perhaps not, but one has to wonder about your motivations and/or
goals in reposting it here.
 
() God grant me the company of those who seek the truth,
() and God deliver me from those who have found it.
()      -- Isaac Newton
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: astrology and YOU
Keywords: Astrology, bear shit
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:58:39 GMT

I don't believe in it, but 25 years ago in High School I made and
interpreted my birth chart according to the instructions in the Complete
Astrologer.  I had the gay sign: Uranus square with Venus.  This is not an
uncommmon feature.  If one defines square as 80-100 degree angle between
planets, and this happens twice a year, then there is a 40/360 or one ninth
chance of this occurring randomly.  Interesting, this fraction is about the
same fraction of gay people in the population.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:40:41 GMT

richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel) writes:
:(Herald Tribune, 17-September.  Used without permission.)
:What's in Fashion?  For Men, Smooth Look Goes Integral

:  Slowly apply the hot wax to his chest, spreading it from nipple to 
:nipple as one might frost a cake.  Cut several strips of cotton gauze and
:lay them neatly across his treacled flesh.  Press firmly.  Smile
:pleasantly.  And then rip the hairs from his chest.

:  Repeat.

AAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!

(FJ!! staggers off-stage, pale, sweating, clutching his chest.)

							FJ!!
From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: KATU POLL  10/5/92
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:22:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Oct6.052242.2790
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR


KATU 5 p.m. newscast had a pollester poll for Measure 9.  I will send
details in a few hours when I get it in the paper.  The poll was run
throughout the state of Oregon, it is scientific and it has a smile, though
a cautious smile, on my face.

Measure 9

Oppose  62%
For     33%
U.D.     5%

A rough break down, and these are the approxiament numbers I can remember;

Portland, tri county area:

Oppose  71%
For     

Oregon rural

Oppose  56%
For     44%


4 point margin area.


Sorry, but was a just bustin at the seams!  Had to get it out!!!!

Went to the rally on Sunday!!!!  Wow!

Nearly died when we held hands and sang Holly Nears "we are gay and straight
together, and we're singing singing for our lives." song!  Wow!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Surnames (was: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:56:45 GMT


In article <1992Sep29.192340.6269@panix.com> mara@panix.com
(Mara Chibnik) writes:

>It's spelled "Parkinoots."
>It's pronounced "Poots."

I suppose "Pinouts" is too techno, huh?
Nah, forget it.
"Pakins?"
I don't think so.
"Pakoots?"
Unh-uh.
Rints.
Roots.

Dose guys over dere.

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: enough already.
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:15:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.151646.21504@osf.org> coren@osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:

>(*) As a matter of fact, I regard it as a proof of my own
>insignificance that I never managed to attract an attack from Clay.
>Oh, he did sideswipe me once -- amusingly enough, commenting on a plea
>I had made for more politeness in soc.motss, something over 3 years
>ago.

Hee.  I'm amused to think back to the two threads I can recall in
which I was flamed by Clay.  Once, I was taking a linguistics class
and followed up to one of his linguistics posts.  (The results are
left as an exercise for the reader.)  Another time was a period of
high stoopidity (tm) for me the summer before last.

There was another time when I said something he apparently liked a
lot, because he recommended to some Sarveresque idiot who was plaguing
soc.motss in those days that he go back and read what I had written.
I saved that one under the name "clay-fuzzy" -- just cause I bet he'd
like that.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: emcmanus@kaa.gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Co-ed?
Organization: Open Software Foundation Research Institute, Grenoble
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:37:30 GMT

rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>	My favorite was during his re-telling of the "Cindy stories"
>(co-ed who develops a crush on Clay then writes an anti-gay position
>paper for class...).

What is a "co-ed"?  Does it mean a student who is female?  If so, why
is there a special word, and why do you use it?

,
Eamonn Patrick McManus
cramp cannot amuse mink
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: enough already.
Date: 27 Sep 92 07:55:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep27.075536.17552
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

Am I the only one who thinks the various personal bashings going on in
motss right now are a bit unseemly?

I don't particularly care for the opinions that Sarver or Melmon are
espousing. Some of them are downright offensive. But I'm also getting
really tired of reading personal insults of them rather than
criticisms of what they were saying.

(I fully recognize that, when measured objectively, Melmon and Sarver
are probably posting more tripe than the anti-Melmon/Sarver faction. I
don't care. We should all know better.)

For those of you keeping track of the motss.black-list, you might want
to look at the names that were on there in times past. You'll find me,
and maybe John Dorrance, and probably a few others that might surprise
you.

Nelson, who is not immediately doing anything to solve the problem,
but is indulging himself in meta-conversation anyway.

ObMotss - I volunteered at No on 9 today, as much for a chance to get
the hell away from this college as for any sense of duty. Mark
Morrissey and George Reilly were there too, and we had lots of fun. A
pnw.motss.pico.con.for.political.activism, if you will :-)
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                    The sully-van vultures are on the prowl
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: astrology and YOU
Keywords: Astrology, bear shit
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:14:58 GMT


	Where's the bear shit?

In article <97240@bu.edu> kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
>Daniel MacKay (daniel@nstn.ns.ca) writes:

>>Y'know, I would have a *lot* more faith in things astrological, if
>>sometime during one of my (admittedly few) professional readings,
>>the reader had noticed that I was born during a total eclipse.  I
>>can't imagine a much more dramatc sky event during a much more
>>dramatic time of my life, and while I'm fairly openminded, having
>>a professional completely miss that little detail makes me somewhat
>>skeptical about the whole science.

	[Explanation of precession deleted - one other point - this is
where the term "Age of Aquarius" comes from - right now we're in the
age of Pieces, but all the ates in the horoscopes are from the Age of 
Aries so they're all off by one...  This bring up the intersting
question: in 10,000 years or so, will we have the age of Ophiuchus
since the Ecliptic passes thru there more than it does Scorpius
per IAU constellation boundaries?]

>MOTSS Relevance? In my single days, telling men about my profession
>(astronomy) was always a conversation starter. Often my interest fizzled
>when they replied, "Oh, I just adore astronomy. What's your sign?"

	I *hate* telling people my profession.  If it isn't that
it's the "instant meganerd alert" like with that career I couldn't
*possibly* be interesting.  Most fo the time I tell people "I
do a lot of owrk with computers" which is marginally true and
tends to keep people around for 15 seconds longer...

	And I of course give all sorts of answers for the first 
question...  "Yield" PedXing", "BearXing", "Go Children Slow",
"Warning: treadles may damage tires", etc.

BBC
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: cbe@unlinfo.unl.edu (cbe)
Subject: Re: enough already.
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:51:34 GMT

jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer),
natural philosopher, danseur and connoisseur, writes:

>Colburn Eigen (cbe@unlinfo.unl.edu), 
>physicist and man of taste [but, of course]:
> 
>> Goodness and Mercy, No!!  To my knowledge Wolfie had no gastropods 
>> [genus Limax] named Giovanni, ... 

>Well, do *you* remember their names then?

um...well...I don't think he had any unless they were on his..er..
cucumbers

>> (currently lost in the lush voice of Janet Baker singing Sea Pictures 
>> of Elgar........and wanting to go where the corals are)

>How interesting...the CD?  Barbirolli?  LSO?

Indeed, the very same.  A remarkable CD not only for the stunning 
singing of Dame Janet but also for  

>the now aging, but never-surpassed performance
>of Elgar's Cello Concerto by du Pre'.

which never fails to leave me in a profoundly elegaric mood.

>ObCoincidence: Barenboim and du Pre' were married
>to each other.  [Neither was ever married to
>Giovanni.]

Well, jeff, I suspect neither of them were in to gastropods although 
certain Helicidae accompanied with much butter, garlic and heat were 
very likely into them.

Colburn Eigen                           H|u> = E|u>
(now being overwhelmed by Kipinis singing the death of Boris)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Surnames (was: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT)
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:09:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.155810.23825@tc.cornell.edu> shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
>In article <wood.717776437@jfred> wood@siemens.com. (Jim Wood) writes:
>|glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
>|>So what could we do with "Parkinson" and "Ouzts" 
>|>(pronounced "oots")?
>
>|Parkinoots? :-)
>
>"Poots," obviously.

Short for "Pooter-Pumper?"

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Surnames (was: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 07:15:38 GMT

This reminds me: I had a crush on a (boyish) girl named Christine Centritto
(pronounced sen-TREE-toe) in grade school; decided we should get married
so we could call ourselves the Doritos.

--
John Dorrance * Alleged Homosexual/Shameless Hussy * thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: New Fortunes
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:04:57 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <BvIIr8.8Bp@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>I was curious after I got this to see who was represented, and how
>often.  So, for your edification:
>
  [fortune 500 deleted...]

>Tut, tut, Jess.  All those quotes from Sargon ... we may have to
>rethink your pod license.

  A good quote is a double-edged sword.

  Wayne
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Madonna bashing
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:52:09 GMT

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>In article <66742@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>>>>Ahem, well, I *was* somewhat tempted at motss.con, but as I am
>>>>in reality a *shy* and *retiring* forest creature, particularly
>>>>around those who have declared partners....
>>Yes, but I was talking about Robert Coren (and John Gintell, of
>>course), not yourself.  ;-{)##]

>Oh my, George.  I do believe you'd have had to take a number.

Yeah; *everyone* wanted me!

(John, who found the Gintelloren pretty damn appealing his own self)

--
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			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: pc@linus.mitre.org (Penny Chase)
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Organization: Research Computer Facility, The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA
	<1992Oct4.183112.15428@reed.edu> <1992Oct5.004153.12341@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:54:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.004153.12341@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:

   There are a few small egg raisers who treat their hens decently, but
   for the most part laying hens are treated worse than just about any food
   animal other than veal calves. 

Unless you use free range veal (yes, I just recently saw this on the
menu in a restaurant in Gloucester, MA).

	Penny

--
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INTERNET:  pc@mitre.org
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: ***APOLOGY*** (kindly read me)
Date: 26 Sep 92 02:31:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: insert anything here

stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants) writes:
>"Melmon: Just Clueless, or This Year's Winner of the Soc.Motss MARK ETHAN SMITH
>Trophy?"

	Oh c'mon --- MES was at least interesting and unique.
Melmon does't even rate a comparative sentence.

	In another vein...  some months ago at a quite fun
backyard BBQ at Steve and Tony's, we were trying to come up with
a list of all the * people we could think of from soc.motss.
It was *really* hard to do!  After a while you sort of remember
that there "was this guy who was really annoying and then he went away"
but that's all you can remember - in the end they didn't even rate
the synapse to hold the name...

	That fact that anyone can remember MES is signficant...
It took us over 15 minutes to come up with Stephen Heath.

	Not long from now it will be Matthew who?  Isn't he the
one that was from Apple or something?

BBC
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Ry Schwark Bytes!
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 12:18:37 GMT


In article <1992Oct2.030453.25445@syacus.acus.oz.au>
brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies) writes:

>What about "Schrei"? That's the Yiddish word for "scream".

German.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Ry Schwark Bytes!
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:33:24 GMT


In article <1ai049INNigb@mizar.usc.edu>
adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson), the sound of one knee
jerking, writes:

>In article <1992Oct2.121837.22522@macc.wisc.edu> 
>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson), the notorious
>pedant, corrects:

>>In article <1992Oct2.030453.25445@syacus.acus.oz.au>
>>brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies) writes:

>>>What about "Schrei"? That's the Yiddish word for "scream".

>>German.

>Also Yiddish.  Well, OK, it's not spelled "Schrei" in Yiddish.

So what's the problem?

>Is that what bothered you, Snookums?

Was I bothered?  Clearly, you were.

>The Yiddish word for scream is written:

>              XXX  XXX  XXXXX   X  X  X
>                X    X      X   X  X  X
>                            X   X  X  X
>                xxxxxx      X   XXXXXXX  

>Is that better?

Better than what?

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: enough already.
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:48:08 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

In article <thaaang.717921042@cwis>,
thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
> John, the very model of a modern homosexual

I am the very model of a modern homosexual.
I've electronic mantras and personas to perplex you all.
I'm not a little practised in litotes and hyperbole:
I've 80,000 readers and they lionise me verbally.

My touchie-feelie typing means my fingertips are toughening,
But still I have a qwerty-smooch for those who are demuffining.
A kink for cabalettas and a tendency to drollery
Do not make cabalistical connections a corollary.

    [Chorus (off):
    Do not make cabalistical connections a corollary.
    Do _not_ make cabalistical connections a corollary!
    Do *NOT* make cabalistical connections a corolla-rollary!!]

I post, when indefatigable bigots try to flatten us,
A gastronomic flood that makes you horny (or keratinous).
My bijou hypothalamus and well-developed pecs, you will
Agree, make me the _model_ of a modern homosexual.

-- 
Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk
"*butterfly* a general name for any of the daylight Lepidoptera,
roughly distinguished from moths by their clubbed antennae:
a gay, flighty person (fig.)" -- Chambers English Dictionary
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,ca.politics,ba.politics
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: No on 9
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:10:47 GMT


In article <b+0n+_=.phil@netcom.com>, phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:

|> Have homosexuals ever had bathhouses where large numbers of homosexuals
|> had random, anonymous sex with very large numbers of partners in a single
|> night, or have Crisco parties, or ....

Heterosexuals had the same types of places.

|> Golly, maybe to know 'em IS to dislike 'em ... (is the operative concept).

But I can dislike *you* for something concrete.

-- 
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Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: Ry Schwark Bytes!
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:32:27 GMT

mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor) writes:
>This excerpt is from an article titled "Is UNIX Dead?" which goes on
>to mostly try and pitch the non-emergence of Windows NT as some sort
>of threat to real operating systems.

My, my.  I saw that headline on the cover, and about laughed myself silly.
If you actually _opened_ it, you're a more curious queer than I.

(What're you doing hiding in such a ridiculous article, Ry?)

--
Ellen Keyne Seebacher            elle@midway.uchicago.edu
  "Oh, if people could be sued for installing software they didn't
   understand we could wipe out DOS overnight." --Peter da Silva
Xref: sparky soc.motss:41864 soc.bi:13419
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
Subject: Re: gay science fiction (and a moment of shamelessness...)
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:46:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct5.174614.20793
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Oct5.163238.19514@netcom.com> stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants) writes:
>>Really?  It made me swear off screwing anyone with a tail, furry ears
>>and a first name with an apostrophe in it.
>
>Hmm......Where DO you go to meet people?  

Last time I checked, the Lone Star and My Place were on Planet Earth... :-)

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Summary: OK, so I'm culturally ignorant
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:08:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct7.000810.3872
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1at35iINNngi@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (the
imminently e-fuckable adolphson) writes, about the duel between
Madonna and Marlene Dietrich:

>Dietrich happens not only to be very dead today,
>but just as potent an icon as she ever was in life.

I hate to say this to you Arne, but I'd never heard of Marlene
Dietrich until you mentioned her on motss a few months ago. Maybe it's
generational - I should do an informal poll to see who around this
college knows who she is. I suspect the answer will not be very
encouraging.

Maybe Dietrich is the icon of your time, and Madonna is the icon of
mine? Then we can have a nice useless argument about who we think is
the better icon, independent of cultural context :-)
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                   There is absolutely no other possibility
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Subject: Re: evil twins
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:34:02 GMT

thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

>fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:
>They *do* have grass over there, don't they?

Yes, all the houses I lived in with my parents had a lawn.

>Come on. You can mow a lawn, can't you?

My mother made me because my father didn't have the time - yes, I come
from an upscale Ozzy & Harriet family - but _only_ after my brother
showed me. Twice.

							FJ!!