HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol)
Reply-To: sjsobol@tiny.wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Newsgroups: oh.general
Distribution: oh
Subject: Re: what was Son of Heaven
Organization: The Tiny Software Company, Main Office, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 92 22:16:42 

crussel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Carol A Russell) writes:

>4.  With all that is going on in this city, country, and world I don't feel the
>enthusiasm for a flower show.  There are too many homeless.  Too much racial 
>unrest.  Hungry kids.  Etc., etc.  How can Columbus justify all the money being
>spent on this show, while the state cuts assistance to the poor?
>So, that's my 2 cents worth.  Any other thoughts?
>
>Carol Russell


YEA! Worth much more than two cents.

Sounds like a political problem... lots of politics up North too. Cleveland
is a very political city and I imagine Columbus is twice as  political.

...And to think I was going to go to Ameriflora last time I was in Columbus...

-- 
***  **  ** | The Tiny Software Company/23707 Glenhill Dr./Cleveland, OH 44122
 *  *   *   |   Steven Sobol - President  - sjsobol@tiny.com or tiny!sjsobol 
 *   *  *   |
 *    * *   |     The TINY.WARIAT.ORG domain address is being phased out.
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Newsgroups: oh.general,misc.legal
From: adkins@gecko.cis.ohio-state.edu (Brian Adkins)
Subject: Re: 15 yr old arrested because of BBS files
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:25:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.004050.26798@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.180741.1176@cis.ohio-state.edu>
>adkins@turtle.cis.ohio-state.edu (Brian Adkins) writes:

>>[stuff deleted]

>>I felt obliged to post a dissentient article. 
>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
>Best Freudian typo of the month.
>
>Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.				   

dissentient adj. - dissenting, esp. from the majority opinion

Does your dictionary have a different definition?

Brian



Newsgroups: cle.config,oh.general,news.newsites
From: sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Subject: Re: Tiny.com is here; updates for tiny; new site (turnbull)
Organization: The Tiny Software Co., via APK Public Access Unix, Cleveland
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:15:49 GMT

Sorry for the repost, but distribution of this article was not originally
meant to be limited to Cleveland...

This is the official announcement that tiny.wariat.org has obtained a
registration with the Network Information Center as tiny.com. You should
send all mail originally meant for tiny.wariat.org to the new address.
The old domain address will still be active for a transition period of
a few weeks, but will then be removed.

Also, tiny is now accepting -small- mail feeds. I am proud to announce our
first feed to turnbull, a small private system. Maps for tiny and turnbull
follow.

Please send e-mail to me if you want to know about the availability of feeds.

Regards,
Steve Sobol, SysAdmin
tiny.com

------------------------------
#N	tiny
#F	po.cwru.edu
#S	Digital-One 386sx; Coherent 3.2.0.15k
#O	The Tiny Software Company
#C	Steven J. Sobol
#E	tiny!postmaster
#T	+1 216 691-1169  
#P	23707 Glenhill Drive, Cleveland, OH 44122
#L	41 39 55 N / 081 25 03 W city
#U	wariat
#W	tiny!sjsobol (Steve Sobol); Sat Jul 11 12:00:00 EDT 1992
#
#R	tiny is the gateway to domain 'tiny.com'
#R	Accepting *SMALL* mail feeds. Send Email to tiny!sjsobol
#
tiny=	tiny.com
tiny	.tiny.com
#
# Regular feeds
#
tiny	wariat(DAILY),turnbull(DAILY*2)
#
# Backup feeds
#
tiny	hernix(WEEKLY),brauhaus(DAILY)
------------------------------


------------------------------
#N	turnbull
#S	Laser 386sx; Linux 0.96
#C	John Turnbull
#E	turnbull!postmaster
#T	+1 216 671-0416
#P	11112 Dale Avenue, Cleveland, OH 44111
#L	41 39 55 N / 081 25 03 W city
#R	This map entry is maintained by sjsobol@tiny.com
#W	tiny!sjsobol (Steve Sobol); Sat Jul 11 12:00:00 EDT 1992
#
tunrbull=	turnbull.tiny.com
turnbull	tiny(DAILY*2)
------------------------------

-- 
***  **  ** | The Tiny Software Company/23707 Glenhill Dr./Cleveland, OH 44122
 *  *   *   |   Steven Sobol - President  - sjsobol@tiny.com or tiny!sjsobol 
 *   *  *   |
 *    * *   |     The TINY.WARIAT.ORG domain address is being phased out.
 *  **   ** |  Effective immediately, please use TINY.COM instead. Thank you.

-- 
***  **  ** | The Tiny Software Co    Steve Sobol, President 
 *  *   *   | 23707 Glenhill Drive    sjsobol@tiny.com or tiny!sjsobol
 *   *  *   | Cleveland Ohio 44122    ---------------------------------------
 *    * *   | The TINY.WARIAT.ORG domain address is being phased out.
 *  **   ** | Effective immediately, please use TINY.COM instead. Thanks.
Newsgroups: oh.general,misc.legal
From: nshomron@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Noam Shomron)
Subject: Re: 15 yr old arrested because of BBS files
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:45:32 GMT

I disagree.  Restricting pornography simply conveys the impression that sex or 
even sexual thoughts, which are certainly within the normal range of human 
behavior, are wrong or somehow forbidden, ESPECIALLY to children.  If our 
society was *more* open about sex, pornography, etc., then people wouldn't be 
so quick to jump to inaccurate conclusions which later hurt them or possibly 
even others.  I think that any kind of censorship would therefore be 
detrimental, and our society would be better off if freedom of expression on 
ALL topics was guaranteed.  Why should I be silenced because what I say or do
is uncomfortable for someone else?

-- Noam Shomron
Xref: sparky oh.general:382 misc.legal:15265
From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Newsgroups: oh.general,misc.legal
Subject: Re: 15 yr old arrested because of BBS files
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:35:37 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1992Jul23.084112.17@antioc.antioch.edu> (oh.general,misc.legal), mbaya@antioc.antioch.edu writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul21.140903.20595@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen) writes:
> > 
> > I have no idea where this message should be posted, I only know that it
> > them.  The paper reports that this type of arrest is one of the first of
> > its kind in the state.  The cops used a "cooperative" 15 year old -- after
> > the kid accessed the adult files, the cops grabbed the alleged criminal.

I don't get it.  What's the crime?  Looking at pictures of GIFs. 
Big deal.  It's upsetting to think that somewhere a real crime is
taking place and the police have to waste their time with foolish
nonsense.  
> > 
> > If any Ohio law enforcement types are reading this, I am an Ohio attorney,
> > and I think this sucks.
> > 
> > David

Fight to get the law changed!

Sounds like to me that every BBS SYSOP that has various GIFs would
need protection not to mention all sites that get alt.sex.* newsgroups
that contain GIFs.
Newsgroups: oh.general,misc.legal
From: adkins@turtle.cis.ohio-state.edu (Brian Adkins)
Subject: Re: 15 yr old arrested because of BBS files
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:49:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.084112.17@antioc.antioch.edu> mbaya@antioc.antioch.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.140903.20595@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen) writes:
>> 
>> I have no idea where this message should be posted, I only know that it
>> **should** be posted.  I'm posting here only because I know this board 
>> is widely read and someone should be able to get this message 
>> to the right place.
>> 
>> In today's paper (Cleveland Plain Dealer) it was reported that a 22-year
>> old male got arrested for distributing pornography, and possibly for
>> contributing to the delinquency of a minor.  His "crime" was running a
>> bulletin board out of his home ... the cops found out that minors were able
>> to get ahold of pornographic gif files.  The arrestee had apparently set
>> things up so that "adult" files were supposed to be restricted, but either
>> the files weren't restricted after all, or someone else had "unrestricted"
>> them.  The paper reports that this type of arrest is one of the first of
>> its kind in the state.  The cops used a "cooperative" 15 year old -- after
>> the kid accessed the adult files, the cops grabbed the alleged criminal.
>> 
>> If any Ohio law enforcement types are reading this, I am an Ohio attorney,
>> and I think this sucks.
>> 
>> David
>> -- 
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= THIS MESSAGE IS FROM  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>> |             David R. Cohen or Tracey L. Ridgeway              |
>> |                  bx953@cleveland.freenet.edu                  |
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Well, I think it's wrong that a 15 year old would have access to 
pornographic GIF files on a bulletin board.

Brian


Xref: sparky oh.general:370 misc.legal:14799
Newsgroups: oh.general,misc.legal
Subject: 15 yr old arrested because of BBS files
From: mbaya@antioc.antioch.edu
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:41:12 EDT
Organization:  

In article <1992Jul21.140903.20595@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen) writes:
> 
> I have no idea where this message should be posted, I only know that it
> **should** be posted.  I'm posting here only because I know this board 
> is widely read and someone should be able to get this message 
> to the right place.
> 
> In today's paper (Cleveland Plain Dealer) it was reported that a 22-year
> old male got arrested for distributing pornography, and possibly for
> contributing to the delinquency of a minor.  His "crime" was running a
> bulletin board out of his home ... the cops found out that minors were able
> to get ahold of pornographic gif files.  The arrestee had apparently set
> things up so that "adult" files were supposed to be restricted, but either
> the files weren't restricted after all, or someone else had "unrestricted"
> them.  The paper reports that this type of arrest is one of the first of
> its kind in the state.  The cops used a "cooperative" 15 year old -- after
> the kid accessed the adult files, the cops grabbed the alleged criminal.
> 
> If any Ohio law enforcement types are reading this, I am an Ohio attorney,
> and I think this sucks.
> 
> David
> -- 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= THIS MESSAGE IS FROM  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> |             David R. Cohen or Tracey L. Ridgeway              |
> |                  bx953@cleveland.freenet.edu                  |
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Newsgroups: oh.general,misc.legal
From: fine@soccer.cis.ohio-state.edu (Thomas A. Fine)
Subject: Re: 15 yr old arrested because of BBS files
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:50:06 GMT

>In article <1992Jul21.140903.20595@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen) writes:
>> If any Ohio law enforcement types are reading this, I am an Ohio attorney,
>> and I think this sucks.

When you say you think it sucks, do you have a legal leg to stand on?
Please elaborate.  It sounds pretty seedy to me too, but I don't know
what the law says about it.

Personally, I've always supported free flow of information above (almost)
all else.  Nothing is ever gained by hiding something, nothing ever lost
by facing reality.

	 tom
Newsgroups: oh.general,misc.legal
From: mhartwel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mack D. Hartwell)
Subject: Re: 15 yr old arrested because of BBS files
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:27:38 GMT

I'm not clear on *who* actually got arrested -- was it the provider of the
GIF files, or an individual who accessed the files? Can the original poster
of this thread (Brian?) clarify this for me?

Also, what is the actual content of the pornographic material? Are we talking
about images from _Playboy_, or something that goes beyond that type of
pornography?

--Mack D. Hartwell
 
Newsgroups: oh.general,misc.legal
From: mark@cbfsa.att.com (Mark Horton)
Subject: Re: 15 yr old arrested because of BBS files
Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: oh
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:17:43 GMT

I was under the impression that some law made it illegal to give
(sell etc) sexually explicit material to a minor.  Is there really
such a law?  Is it federal, state, or local?

I have heard this is the issue behind the Stonewall Union booth
bruhaha at the Ohio State Fair, that one of the newspapers they
were handing out, "Gaybeat", included an explict porno story,
and that it was freely given to minors.  The newspaper seems to
leave out this detail, instead focusing on censorship.

	Mark
Newsgroups: oh.general,osu.for-sale,osu.general
From: Sandeep Muju <smuju@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Visiting Indianapolis and/or Chicago?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:13:39 GMT


I am planning to go to Chicago (via Indianapolis) for a weekend or so.
Tentatively would like to go during first half of August, especially 2nd
weekend of August. If any one is planning to visit either Indi/Chicago i can
help share the cost and can also drive. I am looking for a ride.
Thanx
Newsgroups: oh.general
From: crussel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Carol A Russell)
Subject: Re: what was Son of Heaven
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:37:44 GMT

Steve-I'm from the Cleveland area originally, so I know what Cleveland's 
politics are like - worse than Columbus's, I think.  That rock n roll place has
turned out to be a political nightmare, hasn't it?  At least that's what my 
family reports.  The cities seem to want to do so many things that their 
budgets just won't allow right now.

Carol
Newsgroups: oh.k12
From: aa738@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ken Wheeler)
Subject: IDE ,new board
Reply-To: aa738@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ken Wheeler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:03:51 GMT




Article 1082 of freenet.edu.general:
>Newsgroups: freenet.edu.general
From: aa772@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tom Stork)
Subject: Join us in the IDE - Back to School Poll
Reply-To: aa772@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tom Stork)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 02:24:31 GMT


                         'Go IDE'

The Institute for Democracy in Education, a nationwide 
affiliation of teachers, administrators, students and others 
interested in educational practice which engages all participants
in building the knowledge and skills for making choices in our
world, is now accessible through a new BB in the Government 
Center.  

Type "Go IDE" at any "Your Choice ==>" prompt to read about 
its current activities and join the discussion of educational 
issues important to you.

              <<--** Back to School Poll **-->>

August arrives.  BACK TO SCHOOL looms just ahead.  For many
who will be returning to school this phrase is cheerless 
beyond its accompanying summer's end.  However, rather than 
listing your laments, we'd like to hear what it is that you're 
looking forward to when school starts this fall.

As an inaugural poll for participants in the IDE BB on the 
Freenet, we want to know what it is that you can't wait to get 
back to at your school - Friends? Colleagues? Projects or 
investigations left suspended over summer?  What about Sports, 
Mock Trial, Acting and Theater, your School Newspaper, Yearbook,
Peer Tutoring, Model UN, Chemistry Lab?

Post your answer in the 'Open Dialogue' choice on the IDE Menu.
We'll conduct this poll and tally the responses from now until
mid-August.  At that time we'll publish the results.  With your
help we'll all share school's opening with renewed spirit.

-- 
Thomas A. Stork aa772
Institute for Democracy in Education
Ohio University
internet: tstork@oucsace.cs.OhioU.edu
freenet.govt.ide
 
	Ken Wheeler aa738@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: oh.k12
From: aa738@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ken Wheeler)
Subject: anyone alive here??
Reply-To: aa738@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ken Wheeler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 15:12:10 GMT


	How new is this news group?Are there any parents here that 
 would like to organize and design a new social stucture that would 
 focus on how a parents role in the education process can be changed
 to be more affective in the support of the student but also affect
 the tranning of teachers to bring about productive partnerships in
 learning.PTA's and community councils it seems are more political
 and financial and do little to address the learning relationships 
 between the student/teacher and the parent.With the advent of a 
 growing electronic net bridging the gap between k-12 edu and the 
 community and more reasonable pricing of computer commuications tech
 that addressing this problem is more probable now.Little can be
 changed without a free flow of continous communication and access
 to pertinate and timely information which this media can provide.Creating
 links between teacher education,schools,parents and the community at large
 that can provide resources and the support to make changes that will enrich 
 the learning environment for our children and future leaders.The tools
 are here now the question is do we take this inhand or leave it for the 
 state or federal government to decide for us !
		Ken Wheeler
	aa738 ,xx223 or am436@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans) 
Newsgroups: can.uucp
Subject: Having problems with Worldblazer and USR Dual Standard
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:24:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114/6059* *v32bis/HST
Reply-To: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans) 

I thought the NEWSGROUP: line was supposed to cause multiple postings.
I placed one in a message and didn't get two outgoing messages:

"Path: bville!ian.evans
From: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans)
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:04:00 GMT
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114/6059*
*v32bis/HST
Reply-To: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans)

NEWSGROUP: can.uucp, ont.uucp

I'm having problems connecting my USR Dual Standard to a Telebit
Worldblazer when I initiate the call.  With my feeds advice I have
set S7, S9, & S10 high, as well as increasing the timeout variable in
Waffle 1.64's uucico.  The connection still fails to negotiate a v32bis
connection.

The situation is isolated to this one site, as I'm currently doing
successful v32bis transfers of 14 meg plus daily with my main feed.

Any ideas?"

The docs say the line should be NEWSGROUP:, perhaps it's
supposed to be NEWSGROUPS:?
Newsgroups: can.uucp
Subject: Feed Needed in Windsor area for Waffle site
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 15:08:39 GMT
Distribution: can
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA

Subject says it all - I'm trying to help a friend (Waffle DOS) obtain a feed
in the Windsor-Detroit area... if you can provide such a small service for a
small system, contact farrar@server.uwindsor.ca - tell 'em Ken sent you :-)

-- 
"Also, our records do not support that Mr. Leuchter performed either
consulting or any service...I can attest that the planning and work was
performed by the Department of Correction Engineering Section and our
institution maintenance department." Signed: Gary T. Dixon, Warden NC
Newsgroups: can.ai
From: arms@cs.UAlberta.CA (Bill Armstrong)
Subject: Re: ALNs and Canadian companiezzzZZZZZ
Keywords: adaptive logic, connectionism, data analysis, pattern recognition
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:22:05 GMT

arms@cs.UAlberta.CA (Bill Armstrong) writes:

>Although quite a few Canadian university researchers are ftp-ing the
>atree 2.6 code, it is disappointing that few Canadian companies are in
>the lists we have kept of sites taking the code on Internet.  On the
>other hand, we are getting plenty of email from foreign companies that
>are interested in ALNs.  Canada now has, in ALNs, the best artificial
>neural network technology in the world, but the benefits will go to
>companies that use it, not to those who ignore it.

OK, I guess I'm the last one in this group.  Better turn out the lights.
Click!
--
***************************************************
Prof. William W. Armstrong, Computing Science Dept.
University of Alberta; Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6G 2H1
arms@cs.ualberta.ca Tel(403)492 2374 FAX 492 1071
Newsgroups: can.ai
From: arms@cs.UAlberta.CA (Bill Armstrong)
Subject: Re: ALNs and Canadian companiezzzZZZZZ
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:48:13 GMT

davidmc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (davidmc) writes:

>OK, a quick (possibly dumb) question: Can ALNs be used to implement
>recurrent neural nets? If so, how? If not, then how can they be used
>to implement a TM equivalent program?

Recurrent ALNs

There is no problem making a forest of ALNs recurrent.  A problem
of predicting dynamics of a simulated autonomous robot was solved
by Allen Supynuk by taking 1740 ALNs which fed their outputs to a
1740-bit input vector in a recurrent fashion.  He didn't train them
recurrently though.

There would be no problem in making an associative memory for binary
patterns based on recurrent ALNs.  As far as I know, no one has done it.

Turing machine

Not that I think it's the way to use ALNs, but you can form a finite
automaton that computes its next state and outputs based on a state
and input symbol.  An ALN could recognize when, for example, state 12
was the next appropriate state, conflicts being resolved by a priority
scheme; and similarly for outputs.  Now give the thing an infinite
tape, and another ALN for recognizing the direction to move it in, and
you have a learning Turing machine.  I doubt it would learn what you
wanted it to, but hey, what's research for?

I didn't understand the "If not..." part of your question.  All ALNs
can do is map from a finite set to a finite set, and this they can do
without restriction.  (They can do it.  Whether they can learn to do
it is a different question.)  Your question seems to boil down to what
you can do with that capability.  It's almost:"What can you do with
unlimited RAM?"  It takes more than RAM to make a computer, but
exactly what is flexible.
--
***************************************************
Prof. William W. Armstrong, Computing Science Dept.
University of Alberta; Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6G 2H1
arms@cs.ualberta.ca Tel(403)492 2374 FAX 492 1071
From: murphyg@Software.Mitel.COM (Gary Murphy)
Newsgroups: can.ai
Subject: Re: ALNs and Canadian companiezzzZZZZZ
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:47:12 GMT
Organization: Applications Software II, MITEL Corporation, Kanata, Ontario,
	Canada
In-reply-to: arms@cs.UAlberta.CA's message of 22 Jul 92 19:22:05 GMT

In article <arms.711832925@spedden> arms@cs.UAlberta.CA (Bill Armstrong) writes:

   OK, I guess I'm the last one in this group.  Better turn out the lights.
   Click!
   --
   ***************************************************
   Prof. William W. Armstrong, Computing Science Dept.
   University of Alberta; Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6G 2H1
   arms@cs.ualberta.ca Tel(403)492 2374 FAX 492 1071

Hmm? Hey, what the ...  How come it's so dark in here?  Damn, I musta
dozed off again. Jeez, you'd think they'd leave the heat on! Hey,
dammnit, 's stuck ... rattle it a bit ... no ...

HEY, BILL! UNLOCK THE DOOR WILL YA?!  HEY! ANYONE OUT THERE?

At least in astronomy, being quiet and alone in a dark lab all night was
considered all in a day's work ;-)

Perhaps "can.ai" captures an oxymoron?

If you find this bottle,
And you are in a Canadian lab (esp. BC or NB)
Doing AI research (ALN's especially)
Solidly funded (i.e. stable & solvent)
And hiring or contracting for November (or later)
Send a rescue vessel to ..

--
Gary Lawrence Murphy - Gary.Murphy@software.mitel.COM - (613) 592-2122 x3709
                    The reality of me is just me.
Newsgroups: can.ai