From: malek@pi.titech.ac.jp (Zidouri Abdelmalek 03/95)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Are Algerian people ARABIC ?????
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:14:45 GMT
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Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: Tokyo Institute of Tech., Precision and Intelligence Lab., Japan
 In-reply-to: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu's message of 4 Sep 92 00:00:20 GMT

>>>>> On 4 Sep 92 00:00:20 GMT, aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) said:

	Anisa> In article <1992Sep1.144932.24586@bnrmtl.bnr.ca> mokhtar@bmtlh196.BNR.CA (Mokhtar Amalou) writes:
>
>I would like to have the opinions of arabic netters about the Algerian
> society roots

	Anisa> A very articulate and intelligent Maghrib man :) in one of my political
	Anisa> science classes, presented a very interesting argument today to our
	Anisa> professor.  The professor stated, in general, that the Arabs are all
	Anisa> one nationality - whether they are Syrian, Palestinian, Morocan, or
	Anisa> Algerian - that basically, all the North African states are considered
	Anisa> part of the Middle East - or a periphery of.
    
      I think the best definition given to being ARABIC or NOT is whether
      you speak it as a mother TONGUE or NOT. Then if we apply this 
      definition [AL-ARABIATU AL-LISAN] we will see that many countries
      have become arabic (other than the ARAB PENINSULA) for so long
      now. Basically all north Africa and its SAHARA has ARABIC as
      the MOTHER tongue for the MAJORITY of the people. .

	Anisa> So this man said that it wasn't true.  That the North African peoples
	Anisa> are really African, despite the 'Arab invasion' - and since that eight
	Anisa> century span, the the mixture of Arab, French and Spanish blood has
	Anisa> created a diversity in their ethnic origin.
  
      The  occupation of the French to North Africa and the very long
      to Algeria (but not eight century span) has made the problem of
      Arabic in this country a BIG ISSUE between individuals, cultural
      societies, and POLITICAL PARTIES.
      There are ethnic groups in Algeria (like many other countries)
      like Shawia, Kabayl, Touareg, but almost all of them speak ARABIC
      as well as their dialect. Many great personalities whether
      religious or political or in the war of independance from
      France are from these groups and are AS ARDENT for Algeria being
      an ARABIC state AS those who consider themselves  Arabs. But 
      there are also who consider the Arabs as invaders. BTW the
      LEADERS of many political parties in Algeria are from these
      ethnic groups, such as FFS, RCD (who calls for a SECULAR state
      and does NOT support the arabisation of universities), and 
      the FIS ( A RELIGIOUS party which has won the last parlimentary
      elections and is banned now). So in Algeria there is now
      an ISSUE OF ARABISATION of the administration and education
      at UNIVERSITIES as it is mostly in FRENCH. The Spanish influence
      is hardly felt in North Africa except Morocco.
      I would be very interested to hear from some people in 
      North Africa to WHAT DEOS IT MEAN FOR THEM OF BEING AFRICAN. 

	Anisa> I also heard of differences of opinion depending on what country
	Anisa> you are from.
      
       I believe that the borders in the Islamic and ESPECIALLY ARABIC
       states are artificial. The problem of minorities arises only
       if "Arab" is taken as an identifier out of its Islamic meaning.
       Otherwise even the Arab Christians know that the best treatment
       they can get in the Arab World IS under the true implementation
       of ISLAM.

	Anisa> but we are all brothers (and sisters), right?
        
        right.

	Anisa> Anisa
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 Malek.
 
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