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From: Howard Frederick <hfrederick@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.misc
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:37 PST
Subject: Europe in Turmoil*Media*Call4Papers
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From: Howard Frederick <hfrederick>
Subject: Europe in Turmoil*Media*Call4Papers

                [ Please respond to hfrederick@igc.apc.org ]
                     Call for Papers*Deadline Extended

                    International Communication Section
         INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR MASS COMMUNICATION RESEARCH

                            "Europe in Turmoil:  
               Communication and Democracy in Civil Society"
        Hosted by School of Communications, Dublin City University
                        June 25-26 Dublin, Ireland

     Three forces compete for the hearts and minds of Europe's attentive 
publics--government, market, and civil society.  In Europe, as elsewhere, 
governments and markets control the major channels of public opinion 
formation, so they usually prevail.  But new channels (both interpersonal 
and technological) have transformed our capacity to build and maintain 
long-distance coalitions and networks.  New regional and global forces are 
now using new channels of communication to fight problems whose scale 
previously confounded local and national solution.  We call this the 
"transnationalization of civil participation."  

     The International Communication Section seeks papers for two panels 
describing the scope and impact of channels promoting communication and 
democracy in Europe's civil societies.  From the environment to women, from 
neighborhood conflict resolution to computer networks, from radio to 
publishing, from universities to the labor movement:  Civil society is 
producing new media to distribute its culture and information.  Market- and 
government-controlled media have not been able to provide reliable and 
diversified information essential to democracy.  We will accept articles 
from outside Europe if they focus on channels of civil and democratic 
communication relevant "Europe in Turmoil."  

     Paper abstracts accepted until February 15.  Important:  Final papers 
must be submitted via *email or on diskette* by April 15, 1992, no 
exceptions.  For submissions, contact:  Howard H. Frederick, President, 
International Communication Section of IAMCR, P.O.B. 94653, Pasadena, CA 
91109 USA Voice:  +1-818-568-0994  Email:  hfrederick@igc.apc.org   
Fax: +1-818-791-2205 "Attention CLAIRE"   

     For more information on the Dublin conference, contact Paschal 
Preston, School of Communications, Dublin City University, Glasnevin DUBLIN 
9, IRELAND  Tel:  +353 1 7045478  Fax:  +353 1 704 5447  
E-Mail:  PrestonP@dcu.ie

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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:26:35 GMT

        Ding, dong, the Witch is dead!
	The mean old Witch... the Wicked Witch.
	Ding, dong, the mean old Witch is dead.

				       (from "The Wizard of Oz")

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From: carlos@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Miguel Borges)
Subject: Macedonian solution
Organization: Portuguese People's Liberation Front
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:28:31 GMT

Ok, enough flame...

What is the solution to the problem?  What does Greece propose?

A name change?  A Greek invasion?  Or the status quo?
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From: ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis)
Subject: Re: Jamaica gone to perdition!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:15:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.142144.20816@ultb.isc.rit.edu> pac8702@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Richard, I don't know which utopia you are presently living in but, the
>problems you described seem pretty universal to me. The trouble in Jamaica
>is always exaggerated by those of us who hear it second hand or who have


They tryin' they bes' 
   to stop our progress
With bad propaganda
   ay in the foreing press...

             (Lord Laro)



Evans.-

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From: lnm5844@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Antigua, West Indies
Reply-To: lnm5844@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:00:42 GMT

To the Antiguan on the net :
				Who is competing? Fact is fact, when
you've got it you've got it, and Barbados definately has it! No 
other island can compare! 
				                  Peace....
From: jrod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (J. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Trini creole study
Keywords: Trinis, creole
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:39:00 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

I am in my last year at the UofR, and I am doing a linguistic study of the
creole of Trinidad.  As a part of my research, I need to "interview" many
speakers of Trini and compile the results into a long paper.  Anyone who is
willing to help me, please EMAIL to me.  This project would only require from
you perhaps one email a week, and near the end of the semester some telephone
calls [which of course I pay for :-) ].  And of course you will be credited
as a contributor to the project.

Thanks for anyone who is willing to help!

John

P.S.  John Sammerson, PLEASE respond!  Your dictionaries in the beginning of
1992 were invaluable!

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From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Jamaica gone to perdition!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:46:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <1993Jan26.140321.11040@ultb.isc.rit.edu> nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>JAMAICA NUH GONE TO NO DYAM PERDITION, OONU LEF JAMAICA ALONE!!

I was going to say that one could live in Hope or die in Constant
Spring, and leave it at that, but then I remembered what happened in
the Constant Spring lockup in October.

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Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
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From: WATSON@biomed.med.yale.edu (Cornelius Watson)
Subject: test for news group
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:19:51 GMT
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From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Earthquake in Jamaica
Date: 26 Jan 1993 07:27:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <1993Jan24.192201.6199@ultb.isc.rit.edu> pac8702@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>I recently got my 'Gleaner' so I thought I would elaborate a bit on the above
>subject for those who don't have access to one. The following are excerpts
>from the Weekly Gleaner of Jan. 18.
>
>Two Quake Deaths Recorded
>"Henry Cargil ,22,( no, not Morris..) was walking with friends along a cliff
> in the parish of Portland when the quake struck, loosening the rocks causing
> him to fall into the sea and drown.

Morris wants to die in action, as it were!

>6.	Buildings at the UWI Campus at Mona damaged and occupants had to be
>	evacuated.

Could you say which buildings? Mona had a hard time recovering from
Gilbert, earthquake damage is adding insult to injury.


>
>*	June 7, 1692, the city of Port Royal was destroyed by and earthquake.
>	Sections of the town sank into the sea. 
>
>(At the time Port Royal was reputed to be the wickedest city on earth. I can't
>remember the name of the man who was swollowed up by a crack  in the ground and
>later 'spat' out again).

Lewis Galdy.




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From: pac8702@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PC)
Subject: Re: Jamaica gone to perdition!
Reply-To: pac8702@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:21:44 GMT

Richard, I don't know which utopia you are presently living in but, the
problems you described seem pretty universal to me. The trouble in Jamaica
is always exaggerated by those of us who hear it second hand or who have
recently had to face it. As the saying goes, No Whe' No Betta Dan Yard. Foreign
Lands are  just as bad but, we delude ourselves into thinking otherwise.
PAC8702@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU          : If you live in Hope .... you die     
Rochester Institute of Tech.        : in Constant Spring.              Cargill
Rochester, New York.                : Sa wha' !? Ina dis ya sun hat, dat de man
14623.                              : de mus'a drink Dragon ...        Big Boy                     
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From: richard@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Subject: Jamaica to Perdition - Another Witness!
Organization: Adelphi University, Garden City NY
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:09:49 GMT

	I am not the only one who observed these things.......

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>To: richard@auvax1.adelphi.edu
>Subject: I agree !
>
>Richard : I am new to this caribbean club on the network.  I too went home
>for christmas and I fully agree with you.  For the first time, that I went
>back, I realised that I had to readjust .
>However, I have a class in a few minutes, here's the proposal.  There are a
>number of Caribbean/Jamaican Clubs at the major universities.  Let's see if
>as a group we can get together and do some constructive work.
>
>Late of that's for class , tell me what you think.
>
>David Thomas

.........Like I said and said till mi coulda drap dead...you have to BE there 
to SEE it!
 
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From: Sanchez_V@a1.mscf.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: medical internships in Cuba
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:41:47 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I would like information from anyone who knows how an American medical
student can get a medical internship in Cuba.
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From: ghfoster@athena.mit.edu (Grace H Foster)
Subject: Re: Jamaica gone to perdition!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:55:38 GMT

Hmmmm.....

I am concerned that as such an observant person, you would not also see the good
aspects of the Jamaican culture/lifestyle.

I too was in Jamaica this Christmas.  I stayed a month on a two week ticket,
dreading the day I had to come back to the States.  If not Jamaica, where would
you want to live?  Are you suggesting that the quality of life is better here
than in Jamaica?

I do believe that a lot of what you observed in Jamaica, is a direct result of
economic "impoverishment" and a decline in the moral values.  The latter prevails
in this culture and consequentially we see things such as:
	senseless murders
	chronic drug problems
	amazing high school drop out rates
	etc....
 
I am aware that Jamaica is not what it used to be when I was a child (that really
bothers me).  But I do not believe that this societal decline is something which
is mutually exclusive to Jamaica.  

We cannot run from these happenings, we can only try and do our part.  This might
sound a bit simplistic, but I believe that we can help by imparting proper values
to our offsprings, etc.  This generation has already set its course, we need only
be concerned with the next......

So Richard, no hard feelings, but this is my views ............ each man to his
own...
From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: PR Reps Pass Language Law
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:36:00 GMT
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Nf-From: nyxfer.uucp!nyt    Jan 26 22:36:00 1993


Subject: PR Reps Pass Language Law
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit

From el diario/La Prensa

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman. "el Diario/La Prensa" is 
a Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.


Puerto Rico Representatives Pass "English" Law

The Puerto Rican House of Representatives approved a bill 
which would make English an official language of Puerto Rico, 
along with Spanish. On January 22, the Senate is studying whether
to pass the bill without amendments. Meanwhile there is a vigil 
by hundreds of people protesting the New Progressive Party (PNP) 
government's decision. Intellectuals, religious leaders and 
political and labor leaders joined with everyday citizens who are
concerned about the law. The diocese of Caguas sent a note in 
which it warned Governor Rossello not to try to promote class 
divisions through the use of language. Bishop Enrique Hernandez 
said English would be for the rich and privileged in their 
business dealings while Spanish would be marginalized to be used 
by the poor. Socialist leader Juan Mari Bras said the government 
will face many court cases regarding the English law. "When a 
Puerto Rican is forced to fill out a form in a language unknown 
to him or her, this is reason  for (court) action because they 
are imposing on him or her communication with the government in 
an unknown language." (edlp 01/22/93 byline Claudio Alverz Dunn)





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From: gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu (Gregory D. Surbeck)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: American foreign policy project
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:18:59 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
NNTP-Posting-Host: mountaindew.eng.umd.edu

As part of a government and politics class we are required to make a
presentation the major factors of a certain geographic region that
pertain to United States foreign policy and how the United States
should react to that geographic area.  That we address the world in
large groupings is a reality of the limitations of a 20-person class
and one semester.
	The area for which I am responsible includes Latin American
and the Caribbean. If readers could please send me their opinions
about United States foreign policy, about how it is influenced by
Caribbean nations, and about how it (if at all) shapes Caribbean 
politics and attitudes.  Opinions, statistics, and theories are all 
welcome.
	Response in English would be appreciated, but I will do my
best to approach resources to translate French, Portuguese, or
Spanish, so those are appreciated, too.  Responses should be directed 
to my electronic mail address, gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu, as much as 
possible.  I will try to remain current with this newsgroup for the 
duration of the project, but your ideas are very important to me; I 
don't want to miss them.  Thank you very much for your responses.  I 
look forward to your comments.
Sincerely,
Greg Surbeck
gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu
From: lutz@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Dave Lutz)
Subject: Re: Antigua, West Indies
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 20:54:10 GMT

In <93021.112056ACPS7182@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> ACPS7182@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca writes:


>  It's most unfortunate that you don't seem to be getting the info
>  which you are seeking.

   Actually, I got some great info through email.  I'll post a summary
tomorrow.

  Thanks for your concern, and your offer.

Dave Lutz
From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: RE: Jamaica gone to Perdition!
Keywords: CAUTION!
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	In reference to (1993 Jan 21. 185803. 1@auvax1.adelphi.edu) Richard
L. Dennison and (1993 Jan 22. 142144.20816@ultb.isc.rit.edu) (PC).  I agree
almost 100% with what Richard had exprience in Ja. and I agree  with PC
that second hand source information can be exaggerated.  First I must say that
the truth of somethings can be really painful but we still have to face the
facts and reality of certian issues.  What Richard is talking about in Ja. I
can relate to almost fully.  The facts of the matter is that when I was back
home things like this does happen, from bad car accidents to bad crime.  Things
like this are nothing new to the Kingston environment.  Before I left Ja. in
1986 things were bad when the exchange rate of $1 US was $5.50 Ja. prices of
goods were increasing and not a lot of jobs offering.  So with the exchange
rate being about $1 US for $22 Ja. things have even gotten more desperate.
The last time I spoke to my father in Ja. a couple of months ago he said that
crime has increase in Kingston and people are facing a lot of hardship.  So
before I left things wasn't that easy at that time, and now with inflation at
a all time high a lot of people are force to resort to more desperate things
to survive hard times.  Kingston Ja. from my point of view is similar to NYC
in that you just have to know how to carry yourself and don't be too surprise
at certian things that you see happening. So PC it seems to me like you are
trying say that what Richard is saying is not true, there is truth in a lot
of what he is saying about what is happening in Kingston Ja, so don't have
any contempt towards him.  We all love Jamaica and want to hear good things
about it but you have to face the facts that not everything is a bed of roses,
there are both good and bad things and sometimes we have to talk about bad
things that are reality and facts which affects all of us.  I don't agree with
Richard saying that he will not return to Jamaica, that type of attitude makes
you nothing more than a sell out to our little island, when things get better
you will be quick to run back home but when times are hard you run away.  So
my advice to you is to take things like in strides and how to adjust and help
to make things a little better.

		IVOR REID
		SUNY AT BUFFALO
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From: pac8702@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PC)
Subject: Re: Jamaica gone to perdition!
Reply-To: pac8702@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:25:48 GMT

Grace H. Foster .........
Any relation to Harry Foster from Kirkvine ? I believe we might have met many
Summers ago.

Patrick..
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From: seivwright@evax0.eng.fsu.edu (ROY SEIVWRIGHT)
Subject: RE:Jamaica gone perdition
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Reply-To: seivwright@evax0.eng.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: 24 JAN 93 18:03:18    

I can't blame anyone for the disgust but it is sign of the time. I always
believed you can determine the times by the state of the children. With
high drop out rates, teenage pregnancy, higher crime rate, robbery and what
not. Jamaica is starting to duplicate places like New York, London, Toronto,
Atlanta, Chicago, Miami and Washington D.C. To make matters worse, with the
exchange rate at 22.50J$ to $1.00US, people will do anything for money. Young
gal with older men, open  robbery, gunmen, etc.... 
I will admit I am one of the ragamuffin-types that some people fear but it is
a matter of economical and political atmosphere that one is raised in. I
personal would rather live in Jamaica than live in Miami, New York and London.
Not to say that I have hated the previous places, but like Tony Rebel says 
"What a nice place to live...sweet Jam Down..." Too bad dollah nah run.

Anyway, If you think town is bad gwaan a country. Ting aren't easy there.


I'm going to big up anyone on the network from Peckham, Brooklyn, North York
(Toronto), Miami, WPB , Trelawny Parish, Bath (St.Thomas Parish) and Portmore.

Roy Seivwright
Seivwright@evax12.eng.fsu.edu

P.S. I am not related to the politician with the same name, therefore I am
not a crook. Me Done.
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From: plm@reggae.cam.bellcore.com (Paul L. Mowatt)
Subject: Re: Jamaica gone to perdition!
Organization: Bellcore - Bell Communications Research
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:25:31
	<1993Jan25.210818.11518@vax.oxford.ac.uk>

>>>>> On 25 Jan 93 21:08:18 GMT, mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk said:

> In article <1993Jan21.185803.1@auvax1.adelphi.edu>, richard@auvax1.adelphi.edu writes:
>> Does anybody want to talk about the downfall of Jamaica?  Let's get it ON!
[McBean's reply]
> McBean

You left out the best part of the lyrics, so I'll fill it in...

Now this is the original foreign mind!
Yuh mus' be deaf
Yuh mus' be blind
	.
	.
	.
Foreign is a place where people come and go
When some people go to foreign, they see things they've never seen before
And forget all about their brethren, back ah yard how dem living so poor
Right now some ah dem sleeping on floor
	.
	.
	.
> Nah go a foreign fi go tun shoe-shine,
> Prefer do some hustling on the frontline.
>          - Junior Reid
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From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: recipe request
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:48:36 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1993Jan19.194326.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fskks@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
> greetings all.....
> i was just hoping that whoever posted that recipe for jerk chicken could send
> me a copy, i had the file appended but somehow it got dumped off my hard drive
> before i had a chance to print it.  also, if you have any other good recipies
> for traditional foods from jamaica specifically or other islands, i'd greatly
> appreciate it.
> i used to live in negril but when i left in the process of moving i lost my
> recipes and have been suffering ever since.  from simple beef patty and
> calliloo loaf to whatever else you have, i want it all.
> thank you, ya live.
> -kris
> 
> #the only rastafarian, north of anchorage, alaska.

I thought that rasta lived on an ital diet-:)  Wha a gwaan wid de beef patty
an jerk chicken?

McBean
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Jamaica gone to perdition!
Reply-To: nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:03:21 GMT

JAMAICA NUH GONE TO NO DYAM PERDITION, OONU LEF JAMAICA ALONE!!