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From: dwdyer@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Teflon on pans
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:04:28 GMT

As far as I know, NaOH won't attack Teflon, but Na will.  (But don't do it!)
There is a commercial product that will chew up teflon and leave a carbon
coating.  I'm pretty sure it's a Na alloy.  Just using Na or NaK wouldn't be safe.

Check with a company that sells Teflon.  I've used it, but I don't remember the
name.
-- 
                 Wayne Dyer --- dwdyer@polari.online.com  
  "I mistrust all systematizers and I avoid them. The will to a system
      is a lack of integrity."  -Nietzsche, _Twilight of the Idols_
From: kevin@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Kevin J. Eyre)
Newsgroups: sci.chem
Subject: Interesting word
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:17:56 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College


Can anyone tell me about the word "Spumi Lupi"?  I am
especially interested in the history and definition of
the word.

Thanks,

Kevin
kevin@longs.lance.colostate.edu
From: b_duke@darwin.ntu.edu.au (Brian Duke)
Newsgroups: sci.chem
Subject: Dissociation constants in D2O
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:56:08 +0900

Dear sci.chem netters.

Can anyone point me in the right direction on this point? I am interested
in finding a good, fairly deep analysis, of the differences between acid 
dissociation in D2O and in H2O. For example, for the equilibrium

		BD+   +   D2O  ->  B   +   D3O+

how does the Ka value differ from the same reaction in H2O?

Another example, is how does Kw for D2O differ from Kw for H2O.

A third question is this. I have heard that a rule of thumb in measuring
pD in D2O is to take the pH meter reading (calibrated in H2O buffers) and
add 0.4. Does this work? What is the basis for it?

Can anyone recommend any books that cover these points. I have looked 
at quite a lot in our rather limited library and have not come up with 
anything much. 

Please reply by e-mail or to the net. I'll summarise responses to the 
group. Thanks.
-- 
                  Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke)
School of Chemistry and Earth Sciences, Northern Territory University
        GPO Box 40146, Casuarina, NT 0811, Australia.
Phone 089-466702   FAX 089-410460    E-mail B_DUKE@DARWIN.NTU.EDU.AU
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Mercuric Oxide and smugglers practices.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:09:00 GMT

jqdoumen@vub.ac.be (Doumen Jan) writes:
: 
: I started getting worried since it is strange that someone has a sample of
: a chemical of which he doesn't know what it is. Moreover, the friend is from
: Zaire. I knew that in Zaire it is forbidden to take mercury (liquid) across
: the border because some keen smugglers had found that it was easy to
: dissolve gold in it, bring the mercury out of the country, and then destill
: the liquid to recover the gold.

OK. Now answer a simple question.

How would mercury make gold easier to smuggle?  If you mix very much gold
into the mercury, it becomes a quasi-solid. It would be obvious that it was
an amalgam. 

Assume that you dissolve 1 pound of gold in 1 pound of mercury. You now
would have two pounds of amalgam occupying almost exactly twice the volume
that of the gold itself. Seems to me, such an act would make the job much
harder - rather than easier.

Plus, distilling off the mercury would not be enough. You end up with what
is called "gold sponge". It is not worth nearly as much as raw gold, as you
cannot distill out all the mercury. 

Sorry, the story does not make sense. There may be some such law. That 
would not be surprising - we have many stupid laws in this country. However,
any smart smuggler would not use the technique.

Bill
From: jlangfor@alsvid.une.edu.au (Joseph Langford)
Newsgroups: sci.chem
Subject: Re: Testing for lead
Date: 14 Oct 92 07:39:23 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

From article <1992Oct6.142556.9030@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>, by sabat@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com:
> Is there a simple inexpensive way I could test for lead in some paint chips
> from my house myself or do I need to take a sample to some paint testing
> laboratory?  Thanks for your help.
> 
take it to a laboratory. The paint will need to be digested (wet ash) and then
analysed by a.a.s.> 
> Ted Sabat		sabat@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
-- 
Joseph Langford  Internet:  jlangfor@loki.une.edu.au   Phone:  +61 66 ????????
    University of New England, Northern Rivers (Lismore) NSW Australia
Newsgroups: sci.chem
From: Bj|rn Alsberg <alsberg@math.uio.no>
Subject: Pseudorotation in 6-membered rings!!!
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:35:20 GMT


We are in desperate need for a program that produces xyz coordinates
of atoms in a 6-membered ring given pseudorotation parameters.
Even a well described algoritm or formula is accepted ;-)

Thanks in advance!

Bj|rn Alsberg
Dept. of Chemistry
University in Bergen
Xref: sparky sci.chem:3885 sci.physics:16267
From: James_J_Kowalczyk@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: sci.chem,sci.physics
Subject: Re: 1992 Nobel Prizes: a prediction
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 92 16:44:00 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct9.103523.25066@cc.ic.ac.uk>
  <1992Oct9.193023.21864@hyper.hyper.com>

chaiken@cmsgee.llnl.gov (Alison Chaiken) writes:

>Every year for the last 5 years or so I have predicted in this group
>the winners of the physics and chemistry prizes.  So far I have an
>unblemished record of being wrong every year.     Here are my
>predictions for 1992:
>
>Chemistry: Roy Smalley and Donald Huffman, for C60 discovery
>

I think it is too early to give out Nobel Prizes based on C60, but
what do I know? :)

My vote for Chemistry goes to Prof. K. Barry Sharpless for lifetime
achievement in asymmetric organic catalysis.

Jim Kowalczyk                  James_J_Kowalczyk@cup.portal.com
Senior Research Chemist
Eisai Research Institute
Andover, MA  01810
Newsgroups: sci.chem,sci.materials
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Subject: Graduate Studies at Rensselaer
Followup-To: sci.chem
Organization: Chemistry
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:56:20 GMT

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From: brad@optilink.UUCP (Brad Yearwood)
Newsgroups: sci.chem
Subject: Re: ammonia and iodine?
Date: 8 Oct 92 04:35:57 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <67305@cup.portal.com>, HRWood@cup.portal.com (Harold R Wood) writes:
# Richard,
# Regarding Nitrogen Triiodide.  This material is indeed extreamly
# sensitive in the dry state.  ...

It is perfectly willing to explode in the wet state (totally immersed) as well,
given sufficient provocation - I've observed this directly.
From: hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (stockman harlan w)
Newsgroups: sci.chem
Subject: Re: Teflon on pans
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:34:52 GMT
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Livermore, CA

>:>>BTW, how do you stick Teflon to the inside of a pan if it isn't supposed
>:>to stick to anything?  :)
>:>
>:>I'd like to know this also - I've got an application where I'd very much like
>:>to Teflon coat a metal cylinder (to insulate it).  It would be used for food
>:>handling.  If anyone could give some leads on this, I'd be very appreciative.

I've coated narror-diameter cylinders with teflon shrink tubing. It only
drops about 25% in diameter, and requires an extremely hot blower or a
torch to get it to shrink. Pinching off the ends is a bit tough;
sometimes the torch burns the stuff. But, once on the teflon is pretty
hard to remove!

Currently our widest teflon shrink tubing is about 2.5 cm in diameter.
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Subject: Re: Keeping brains ALIVE!
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:28:56 GMT

spissinger@urz.unibas.ch writes:
>
>If the purpose of cryonics is to escape Mr. Death why aren't just brains kept
>alive instead of freezing them.
>Shouldn't this be much easier?
>I can't believe that no one ever tried this.
>Well, it would not the a grat way to live, but, keeping the eyes, you could at
>least watch TV (subtitled).

How could you possibly manage to keep a brain alive sans body with
today's technology?

--
Perry Metzger		pmetzger@shearson.com
--
		  Just say "NO!" to death and taxes.
			 Extropian and Proud.
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
From: kqb@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (kevin.q.brown)
Subject: Re: Future need for cryonics
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:19:34 GMT
X-Crossposted-To: cryonics mailing list

    ------------------------ Forwarded Message ------------------------

> Message-Subject: CRYONICS Re: Future need for cryonics
> From: edgar@spectrx.Saigon.COM (Edgar W. Swank)
> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 15:41:39 PDT

In cryomsg 1250, Thomas Donaldson says that we will NEVER escape
the need to store badly damaged people into the indefinite future.
 
I would submit that way before 2000 years hence cryonics and any
kind of suspension of the badly damaged will be replaced by
some kind of *non-destructive* copying and archiving of the perfectly
healthy.
 
In the event of any non-reversible accident, or even total destruction
or loss of a person, just go back and reconstruct from the last
backup copy.  At IBM, we called that checkpoint/restart.  It was a
technique for running programs which took longer to run than the mean
time to failure of the computing system.
 
If you take a backup, say, every year or so, then the worst that can
(subjectively) happen to you is loss of your last year's (or so)
memories.  I think most would choose that over the alternative of
suspending whatever was left after an accident and losing decades or
centuries of real time, even assuming no subjective memory loss.

--
edgar@spectrx.saigon.com (Edgar W. Swank)
SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005  Silicon Valley, Ca
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
From: tsf@CS.CMU.EDU (Timothy Freeman)
Subject: Re: Stiff Rat/Lives
Originator: tsf@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:03:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.103420.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsgaw1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

   I recently saw a program, I think on PBS program, discussing the 
   liquification
   of natural gas, for transport to Korea from Alaska. They had very interesting
   segment in the program, that described experiments in cryogenic experiment.
   Camera's rolling, they dropped a mouse in Liquid natural gas (Poof Instant
   Stiff!) they then pulled him out and dropped him in warm water. Then with no
   apparent disorientation, the animal slid out of their hands and jumped off 
   the table.

I've seen someone put their arm in liquid nitrogen up to the forearm
and stir it around for a few seconds with no ill effects.  He said he
had put his bare arm in past the elbow as he was fishing around for a
dropped tool in a dewar.  Apparently heat flows slowly from liquefied
gasses into warm flesh, probably because the liquid boils before it
touches the flesh, and gasses generally insulate fairly well.  (Don't
try this at home, and don't try it at all if you are wearing metal
rings, a wristwatch, you have a wet hand, you have clothes on your arm
that could get soaked with Liquid Nitrogen, or in general you don't
know what you're doing.  If you do it anyway, don't sue me. :-)

Did you see that the rat was stiff, or are you assuming it was stiff?
Even if you saw it was stiff, body parts get stiff long before they
freeze, so I suspect the rat was never frozen.  
--
Tim Freeman <tsf@cs.cmu.edu>    CompuServe ID 71045,2267 checked occasionally.
When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all.
From: spissinger@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
Subject: Keeping brains ALIVE!
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:05:27 GMT
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland


If the purpose of cryonics is to escape Mr. Death why aren't just brains kept
alive instead of freezing them.
Shouldn't this be much easier?
I can't believe that no one ever tried this.
Well, it would not the a grat way to live, but, keeping the eyes, you could at
least watch TV (subtitled).

Thomas
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
From: dedmunds@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darran Edmundson)
Subject: Re: Stiff Rat/Lives
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:46:21 GMT

fsgaw1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

>I recently saw a program, I think on PBS program, discussing the liquification
>of natural gas, for transport to Korea from Alaska. They had very interesting
>segment in the program, that described experiments in cryogenic experiment.
>Camera's rolling, they dropped a mouse in Liquid natural gas (Poof Instant
>Stiff!) they then pulled him out and dropped him in warm water. Then with no
>apparent disorientation, the animal slid out of their hands and jumped off the
>table.

How long did they leave him under for?  Likely only a few seconds and certainly
not enough time for any degree of internal freezing to occur.

-- 

Darran Edmundson
darran@chaos.phys.sfu.ca
From: habs@panix.com (Harry Shapiro)
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
Subject: Re: Walt Disney suspended???
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:13:42 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Oct12.182759.17384@shearson.com> pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes:

>spissinger@urz.unibas.ch writes:
>>Recently a friend has told that Walt Disney has been suspended.
>>Is this true?

>Although its a common rumor spawned by the fact that he mentioned that
>he might like to be suspended, it does not appear that he actually
>went through with it.

>--
>Perry Metzger		pmetzger@shearson.com

I have a clear memory of being at Disney World and being in a presentation
during which it was mentioned that Walt was frozen. Memories can be
wrong, although others recall being in a similar presentation.

Never-the-less, my understanding is that no cryonics organization
makes any claims to be "storing" Walt.
-- 
Harry Shapiro  				      habs@panix.com
List Administrator of the Extropy Institute Mailing List
Private Communication for the Extropian Community since 1991
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Subject: Re: Walt Disney suspended???
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:27:59 GMT

spissinger@urz.unibas.ch writes:
>
>Recently a friend has told that Walt Disney has been suspended.
>Is this true?

Although its a common rumor spawned by the fact that he mentioned that
he might like to be suspended, it does not appear that he actually
went through with it.

--
Perry Metzger		pmetzger@shearson.com
--
		  Just say "NO!" to death and taxes.
			 Extropian and Proud.
From: fsgaw1@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
Subject: Stiff Rat/Lives
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:34:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.1992Oct12.103420.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

I recently saw a program, I think on PBS program, discussing the liquification
of natural gas, for transport to Korea from Alaska. They had very interesting
segment in the program, that described experiments in cryogenic experiment.
Camera's rolling, they dropped a mouse in Liquid natural gas (Poof Instant
Stiff!) they then pulled him out and dropped him in warm water. Then with no
apparent disorientation, the animal slid out of their hands and jumped off the
table.
From: spissinger@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
Subject: Walt Disney suspended???
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:58:22 GMT
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland


Recently a friend has told that Walt Disney has been suspended.
Is this true?

Thomas
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
From: hagerman@ece.cmu.edu (John Hagerman)
Subject: Re: Stiff Rat/Lives
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:34:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.103420.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsgaw1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
 I recently saw a program, I think on PBS program, discussing the liquification
 of natural gas, for transport to Korea from Alaska. They had very interesting
 segment in the program, that described experiments in cryogenic experiment.
 Camera's rolling, they dropped a mouse in Liquid natural gas (Poof Instant
 Stiff!) they then pulled him out and dropped him in warm water. Then with no
 apparent disorientation, the animal slid out of their hands and jumped off the
 table.

Maybe the mouse was wet to begin with, and, after dipping, was only
encased in ice, rather than frozen solid...

- John
--
hagerman@ece.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
From: tsf@CS.CMU.EDU (Timothy Freeman)
Subject: Re: Keeping brains ALIVE!
Originator: tsf@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:20:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.140527.42496@urz.unibas.ch> spissinger@urz.unibas.ch writes:

   If the purpose of cryonics is to escape Mr. Death why aren't just brains kept
   alive instead of freezing them.
   Shouldn't this be much easier?

Freezing the brains is fairly easy.  Thawing them productively is a
bit more of a problem, but fortunately we have some time to figure
that out, since the frozen brains aren't decaying.

I don't know of any successes at keeping a brain in a usable state
after the body has stopped.  There is a fellow who patented a process
for doing this, but he did this because he felt that the process was
immoral and he wanted control over it.  I don't think he had a working
prototype.  It seems like a worthless exercise to me even if I pretend
I hold his values; patents expire.

Even if keeping the brain alive were successful, there'd be little
point if it were just a more extreme way to keep people barely alive
with machines.  If you could stop the brain from ageing and hook it up
with something usable as a body, then you'd have something, but if you
could do that you could probably stop the whole body from ageing, so
there would be no need to just save the brain, except when the body is
damaged by an accident.

   Well, it would not the a grat way to live, but, keeping the eyes, you could 
   at least watch TV (subtitled).

Sounds like Hell to me.  "You, Mr. Freeman, have been rewarded with
eternal life.  The only caveat is that you have to spend all of it
watching Three's Company reruns."  :-).
--
Tim Freeman <tsf@cs.cmu.edu>    CompuServe ID 71045,2267 checked occasionally.
When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all.
Xref: sparky sci.cryonics:604 alt.folklore.urban:25693
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Walt Disney suspended???
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:49:13 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure

In sci.cryonics, habs@panix.com (Harry Shapiro) writes:
| In <1992Oct12.182759.17384@shearson.com> pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes:
| 
| >spissinger@urz.unibas.ch writes:
| >>Recently a friend has told that Walt Disney has been suspended.
| >>Is this true?
| 
| >Although its a common rumor spawned by the fact that he mentioned that
| >he might like to be suspended, it does not appear that he actually
| >went through with it.
| 
| I have a clear memory of being at Disney World and being in a presentation
| during which it was mentioned that Walt was frozen. Memories can be
| wrong, although others recall being in a similar presentation.
| 
| Never-the-less, my understanding is that no cryonics organization
| makes any claims to be "storing" Walt.

Sorry to disappoint everyone, but Walt Disney was cremated, and is
buried at Forest Lawn cemetery in Los Angeles (or the Los Angeles area;
don't know if it's actually in L.A.).

Followups to alt.folklore.urban.

-- 
Geoff Allen          \ The main difference between me and the student
uunet!pmafire!geoff   \  is that I have simply made more mistakes.
geoff@pmafire.inel.gov \    --George Drennan on teaching photo workshops.
Newsgroups: sci.fractals
From: N020BA@tamvm1.tamu.edu
Subject: Re: Fractal Oscillator Circuitry
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:54:00 GMT

   Since some chaotic systems are modeled by diff. eqns, try modeling
the DE's via analog computers. If you need audio-frequency stuff, use
time scaling in the analog computation circuit.
 
 
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From: gaitat@gaitat.kgn.ibm.com (Saki)
Newsgroups: sci.fractals
Subject: 3D fractals
Keywords: fractals, chaos, Mandelbrot
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:36:39 GMT
Reply-To: gaitat@gaitat.kgn.ibm.com (Saki)
Organization: IBM Kingston NY

I am looking for some information for generating 3D fractals
The FAQ wasnt very useful.


Thanks in advance

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Newsgroups: sci.fractals
From: ej6836994@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Subject: Cannot compile Fractint V17.2
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:48:15 GMT

I have used Fractint V17.2 with great interest.  I would like to contribute,
perhaps by adding another modules eg. animation for IFS. But I am facing the
problem of compling the source listings now:

with reference to Fractsrc.doc, it is required that those who doesn't have
Microsoft 6.00A should compile the parser.c, loadfile.c, calcfrac.c with no
optimation and use the /qc option. Therefore I tried to edit makefrac.bat and
Fractint.mak, including the following commands for the three specific files:
	cl /AM /W1 /FPi /c /DC6 /Gs /qc

After the compilation, Fractint.exe was created. But everything seems OK except
for the fractal type L system, which displayed nothing whenever I selected any
.l files. 

I wonder what is going wrong. I would appreciate if anyone could help.

Newsgroups: sci.fractals
From: ddixon@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Dixon)
Subject: Knots and fractals
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 05:07:23 GMT

Anybody have any references about fractals and knot theory?

				Dave

Please send any correspondence to:

DIXON@UCRPH0.UCR.EDU