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From: sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
Subject: Re: 486 Heat Sinks
Organization: Wimsey 
Distribution: bc
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:33:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.225909.23132@unixg.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.051522.7672@ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
>>... [ stuff deleted ] ....
>>Do you *need* a heat sink? The 486, 386 etc are in a big ceramic PGA package
>>that's designed to dissipate that kind of heat, as long as you have enough
>>air cooling. If you have problems you think are heat related, maybe something's
>>blocking the air flow in your computer, like a card. If you use rated clock
>>speed, cooling etc. you don't need a heat sink. 
>>
>
>A lot of the DX2 computers (50mhz, 66mhz)(the speed doubler ones) comes
>with heatsink attached the the chip. There was reliability problems with
>these chips for the longest of time before they were eventually release.
>Heat sink to cool it down (somewhat) was one of the ways of helping the
>situation along with other modifications I think. Check out the other

You can get small fans mounted on a heat sink that mount directly on your
486. These blow air directly down onto the heat sink and seem to do a fairly
good job. Cost is about $30.

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From: hassan@cs.ubc.ca (Moustafa M Hassan)
Subject: HOUSING NEEDED
Summary: HOUSING NEEDED
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 20:34:12 GMT

I am looking for a place to live in the downtown Vancouver area
(or preferably close to UBC).  I am a single, quiet male, non-
smoking, with no pets.  I would prefer to live without a 
roommate, but if you have a good deal involving someone else,
please let me know.  If you know of someone with a place that 
doesn't have access to email, please give them my name and
number.  Thanks.

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* hassan@cs.ubc.ca         |  Political correctness is a euphemism *  
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From: jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison)
Subject: Re: 486 Heat Sinks
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Distribution: bc
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:38:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.052810.14424@ee.ubc.ca> tau@ee.ubc.ca (AU TRI BANG) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.051522.7672@ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
>>Do you *need* a heat sink? The 486, 386 etc are in a big ceramic PGA package
>>that's designed to dissipate that kind of heat, as long as you have enough
>>air cooling. If you have problems you think are heat related, maybe something's
>>blocking the air flow in your computer, like a card. If you use rated clock
>>speed, cooling etc. you don't need a heat sink. 
>>
>
>I'm not having problems of any sort.  I just don't like the idea of a
>chip operating at such a high temparature.  Operating it at a lower
>temp should prolong its life, wouldn't it?

I see your point. If the temperature inside the computer near the 486
is very close to maximum rated temp, then yes a heat sink would help
a lot. But if the temperature is below the maxumum ratings, then it
would not make that much difference, if any.

You can open up your computer and touch the 486 and it will be *hot*
not enough to burn you, though (at least at 33 MHz. 50 MHz would be  warmer,
25 MHz cooler). Just remember that this is within spec, and it can get hotter
before it approaches maximum ratings. At rated temp, you can expect years of
reliable service.

I'll look up the ratings, and you can check how much below the max. ratings
you are.

jpm



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From: hassan@cs.ubc.ca (Moustafa M Hassan)
Subject: HOUSING NEEDED
Summary: HOUSING NEEDED
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:27:54 GMT

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* hassan@cs.ubc.ca         |  Political correctness is a euphemism *  
* TEL/FAX: (604) 535-2826  |  for intellectual stagnation.         *
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Subject: 80 TBird Deluxe\air\302cid\Good Condition\some rust\must sell $1500.00
From: vincew@coast.almanac.bc.ca (Vincent Willden       )
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:25:17 PDT
Distribution: bc
Organization: Coast Personnel Services Ltd., Nanaimo, B.C.

Hello Netland,

See subject line for details.  It is truly a fine automobile - served me well.
Well maintained, gonna be tough to part with, but has to go.

If interested, contact me via any of the venues shown in my .sig.

Regards,
Vincent Willden

vincew@coast.almanac.bc.ca   Vincent Willden
Coast Personnel Services Ltd., 103 - 65 Front Street, Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5H9
Personnel Placement for Western Canada, From the Heart of Vancouver Island
1-604-753-4465 (Voice)                                 1-604-753-2278 (Fax)
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From: bandari@cs.ubc.ca (Esfandiar Bandari)
Subject: contractor 
Reply-To: bandari@cs.ubc.ca (Esfandiar Bandari)
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:21:54 GMT

I am looking for a very reasonable and reliable contractor in the 
Vancouver area to remodel a basement suite for someone in my family.
I would appreciate any recommendations or comments (preferably 
emailed to me).  Thanks in advance.

					--- Esfandiar
					bandari@cs.ubc.ca
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From: ted@eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Ted Powell)
Subject: House sharing
Organization: Entropy Limited, Vancouver Canada
Distribution: bc
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 22:12:34 GMT

Once upon a time, I thought I might want to share a house with somebody.
Having lived in close quarters with other people in the past, I recognized
the importance of knowing what they were really like before investing too
much time and energy. So I engaged that person in conversation on another
topic, without letting on that I was interested in house-sharing, so that
he/she wouldn't be on their "best behaviour". It was very instructive.

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From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Re: 486 Heat Sinks
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: bc
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:59:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.051522.7672@ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
>... [ stuff deleted ] ....
>Do you *need* a heat sink? The 486, 386 etc are in a big ceramic PGA package
>that's designed to dissipate that kind of heat, as long as you have enough
>air cooling. If you have problems you think are heat related, maybe something's
>blocking the air flow in your computer, like a card. If you use rated clock
>speed, cooling etc. you don't need a heat sink. 
>

A lot of the DX2 computers (50mhz, 66mhz)(the speed doubler ones) comes
with heatsink attached the the chip. There was reliability problems with
these chips for the longest of time before they were eventually release.
Heat sink to cool it down (somewhat) was one of the ways of helping the
situation along with other modifications I think. Check out the other
newsgroups like comp.sys.intel, comp.arch, or comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
for more info. I can't remember the whole story. Try touching a DX2
chip after the computer has been on for awhile (1 hr?). It gets a lot
hotter than the normal chips which only gets warm.

Thomas.

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From: tau@ee.ubc.ca (AU TRI BANG)
Subject: Re: 486 Heat Sinks
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Distribution: bc
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 05:28:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.051522.7672@ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
>Do you *need* a heat sink? The 486, 386 etc are in a big ceramic PGA package
>that's designed to dissipate that kind of heat, as long as you have enough
>air cooling. If you have problems you think are heat related, maybe something's
>blocking the air flow in your computer, like a card. If you use rated clock
>speed, cooling etc. you don't need a heat sink. 
>

I'm not having problems of any sort.  I just don't like the idea of a
chip operating at such a high temparature.  Operating it at a lower
temp should prolong its life, wouldn't it?
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From: probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst)
Subject: Re: Seattle, anyone?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:25:03 GMT

In article <panon.714959868@swiss.ucs.ubc.ca> panon@ucs.ubc.ca (Paul-Andre Panon) writes:
>
>>
>>you brought in the race thing, not me. do you have any particular issue,
>>rather than this beat-up meta-issue, that you would like to address?
>
>>              "yes, well, and here we go again..." - Dr H. S. Thompson
>
>OK, how about this one:
>
>One of the strongest ethical arguments against capital punishment is that
...
>
>Why is it that so many members of the `cultural left' who support the above
>argument are also quite willing to support reverse discrimination, which in
>effect punishes one generation for the sins of its parents, and which does so
>by committing the same crime against individual human rights?

but what do you think?
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              Graduate Issues Officer, Simon Fraser Student Society.
e-mail: probst@fraser.sfu.ca - ph: (604) 291 3354/3181 - fax: (604) 291 5843
              "yes, well, and here we go again..." - Dr H. S. Thompson
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From: panon@ucs.ubc.ca (Paul-Andre Panon)
Subject: Re: Seattle, anyone?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:57:48 GMT


>
>you brought in the race thing, not me. do you have any particular issue,
>rather than this beat-up meta-issue, that you would like to address?

>-- 
>Scott Probst: Brain and Behaviour Laboratory, Psychology dept, SFU
>              Graduate Issues Officer, Simon Fraser Student Society.
>e-mail: probst@fraser.sfu.ca - ph: (604) 291 3354/3181 - fax: (604) 291 5843
>              "yes, well, and here we go again..." - Dr H. S. Thompson

OK, how about this one:

One of the strongest ethical arguments against capital punishment is that
it involves society committing the same crime that the accused individual is
supposedly guilty of.  Thus capital punishment is a revenge taken by society
against a criminal for the act(s) he has committed as opposed to a deterrent
against this crime.

Why is it that so many members of the `cultural left' who support the above
argument are also quite willing to support reverse discrimination, which in
effect punishes one generation for the sins of its parents, and which does so
by committing the same crime against individual human rights?

(Answer: it's cheaper to do it that way than to actually spend the money on
education).
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From: carlyw@ee.ubc.ca (Carly Wong)
Subject: -- House for Rent --
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Distribution: bc
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:00:11 GMT

House For Rent
--------------
 
Bright, clean house for rent.  Large rooms, and nice backyard.
Quiet Fraserview neighbourhood, near David Thompson highshool
(55th & Victoria).  May rent whole house, or just the upstairs
or downstairs suite.   Available after Sept.7.
 
3 bedrooms upstairs (1200 sq.ft) for $850/mth.
2 bedrooms downstairs (1000 sq.ft) for $650/mth.
 
Prefer no pets, no smoking, and working family.
Feel free to email me for more info or for viewing ...
  
Carly
(email: carlyw@ee.ubc.ca)
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From: probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst)
Subject: Re: Housing Needed
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:51:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.173247.27318@cs.ubc.ca> hassan@cs.ubc.ca (Moustafa M Hassan) writes:
>********************************************************************
>* Moustafa Hassan          |                                       *
>* hassan@cs.ubc.ca         |  Political correctness is a advertisment*  
>* TEL/FAX: (604) 535-2826  |  for intellectual stagnation.         *
>********************************************************************

...


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              Graduate Issues Officer, Simon Fraser Student Society.
e-mail: probst@fraser.sfu.ca - ph: (604) 291 3354/3181 - fax: (604) 291 5843
              "yes, well, and here we go again..." - Dr H. S. Thompson
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From: jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews)
Subject: Re: Political Correctness (was Seattle, anyone?)
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:28:56 GMT

     "Political Correctness" basically means the following.
A calls B "politically correct" if B is doing something or
advocating something that B thinks will change the world for the
better, but A doesn't think it will change the world for the
better and also wants to suggest that B is doing it out of
trendiness or for the sake of appearances.

     That's what it has always meant, even when it was used only
BY left-wing, progressive people, to describe OTHER left-wing,
progressive people.  Now, when used by the likes of George Will
and our UBC Engineer friend here, it's basically a witch-word
used on left-wing people whose views you don't like, to
associate them with all kinds of other ridiculous positions.

     The use of "politically correct" by people who don't
believe in any form of activism for change in society is just a
lame joke.

--Jamie.
  jamie@cs.sfu.ca
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From: bbaskett@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Bill Baskett)
Subject: Re: Seattle, anyone?
Organization: Royal Roads Military College, Victoria, B.C.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:13:46 GMT


In article <1992Aug24.170203.27333@sfu.ca>, probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug24.021744.4646@ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
|> >In article <1992Aug23.203321.10023@sfu.ca> probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst) writes:
|> >>In article <1992Aug23.174730.4306@ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
|> >>>In article <1992Aug21.203735.11260@sfu.ca> probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst) writes:
|> >>>>In article <1992Aug21.202345.24264@cs.ubc.ca> hassan@cs.ubc.ca (Moustafa M Hassan) writes:
|> >>>>>* hassan@cs.ubc.ca         |  Political correctness is a euphemism *  
|> >>>>>* TEL/FAX: (604) 535-2826  |  for intellectual stagnation.         *
|> >>>>
|> >>>>just thought is worth a comment: "political correctness" doesn't exist,
|> >>>
|> >>>Ah yes! What a politically incorrect faux-pas! After all, by calling you
|> >>>"politically-correct" we are in fact defining you, which is A Bad Thing,
|> >>>according to all the deconstructionist-postmodern types. By defining you
|> >>
|> >>... a lot cut, but you get the picture. actually, i tend not to include myself
|> >>are a way for people not to address the real issues underlying the talk. if
|> >>you wanted to actually address any particular issue, that would be great.
|> >
|> >What on earth do you mean?? Do you mean to say that I am a racist because I
|> >mentioned  race? If you don't see the parody of the "white-
|> >European males" statement, I really don't know what you are thinking.
|> >
|> >I am not "cheapening" the discussion (much). I was basically criticizing
|> >the typical PC manner of thinking:
|> >
|> you brought in the race thing, not me. do you have any particular issue,
|> rather than this beat-up meta-issue, that you would like to address?
|> 
|> -- 
|> Scott Probst: Brain and Behaviour Laboratory, Psychology dept, SFU
|>               Graduate Issues Officer, Simon Fraser Student Society.
|> e-mail: probst@fraser.sfu.ca - ph: (604) 291 3354/3181 - fax: (604) 291 5843
|>               "yes, well, and here we go again..." - Dr H. S. Thompson

So, are you guys going to Seattle or what?
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From: probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst)
Subject: Re: Seattle, anyone?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:05:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.211346.14542@ra.royalroads.ca> bbaskett@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Bill Baskett) writes:
>
>So, are you guys going to Seattle or what?

arf arf arf. indeed...

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              Graduate Issues Officer, Simon Fraser Student Society.
e-mail: probst@fraser.sfu.ca - ph: (604) 291 3354/3181 - fax: (604) 291 5843
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From: tau@ee.ubc.ca (AU TRI BANG)
Subject: 486 Heat Sinks
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Distribution: bc
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:17:18 GMT

Does anybody know whre I can get clip-on heatsinks for the 486 chip?
Or clip-on fans would also be nice.

Also, what about a 16550AFN?
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From: leon@unixg.ubc.ca (Leon ter Beek)
Subject: Re: Nanaimo Association for Community Living
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: bc
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:12:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.072717.22644@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
>It is my understanding that the Nanaimo Association for Community Living, a
>non-profit association which provides care for the mentally handicapped, has
>approximately $3,000,000.00 in assets and cash, including about $400,000.00
>in term deposits, and a $54,000.00 surplus from the year's training
>accounts... this in an organization that refuses to reimburse employees who
>take mandatory first aid training at a cost of $25.00, and which constantly
>hassles employees over expense items which are clearly documented and within
>the realm of normal administrative functions.
>
>Is this _normal_ for a non-profit organization which is chartered to provide
>care and services for handicapped citizens?
>
>This is, after all, public funding this bunch is accumulating, which is why
>it seems so strange...
>
Different non-profit organizations may have different policies how they
handle things. The Vancouver Community Living Society does reimburse
their employees for car milage during work (ie. moving from Hospital to
group home), and first aid training at St. John's Ambulance. I do think
there is lot to improve in this field as your example indicates.
Unfortunately, our present society is paying far too little attention to
the social field; fishy things are more likely to happen. Although, you
mention that your Nanaimo branch has
alot of money, this may change in the future, since that money is the
excess of what they used to pay for the institutions; community living
is cheaper for the government. No costs for private docters and such. 
You also may want to take a look into their bookkeeping ;-)

Regards,
Leon
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From: tau@ee.ubc.ca (AU TRI BANG)
Subject: Re: Seattle, anyone?
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:52:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.211346.14542@ra.royalroads.ca> bbaskett@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Bill Baskett) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug24.170203.27333@sfu.ca>, probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst) writes:
>|> In article <1992Aug24.021744.4646@ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
>|> >In article <1992Aug23.203321.10023@sfu.ca> probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst) writes:
>|> >>In article <1992Aug23.174730.4306@ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
>|> >>>In article <1992Aug21.203735.11260@sfu.ca> probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst) writes:
>|> >>>>In article <1992Aug21.202345.24264@cs.ubc.ca> hassan@cs.ubc.ca (Moustafa M Hassan) writes:
>|> >>>>>* hassan@cs.ubc.ca         |  Political correctness is a euphemism *  
>|> >>>>>* TEL/FAX: (604) 535-2826  |  for intellectual stagnation.         *
>|> >>>>
>|> >>>>just thought is worth a comment: "political correctness" doesn't exist,
>|> >>>
>|> >>>Ah yes! What a politically incorrect faux-pas! After all, by calling you
>|> >>>"politically-correct" we are in fact defining you, which is A Bad Thing,
>|> >>>according to all the deconstructionist-postmodern types. By defining you
>|> >>
>|> >>... a lot cut, but you get the picture. actually, i tend not to include myself
>|> >>are a way for people not to address the real issues underlying the talk. if
>|> >>you wanted to actually address any particular issue, that would be great.
>|> >
>|> >What on earth do you mean?? Do you mean to say that I am a racist because I
>|> >mentioned  race? If you don't see the parody of the "white-
>|> >European males" statement, I really don't know what you are thinking.
>|> >
>|> >I am not "cheapening" the discussion (much). I was basically criticizing
>|> >the typical PC manner of thinking:
>|> >
>|> you brought in the race thing, not me. do you have any particular issue,
>|> rather than this beat-up meta-issue, that you would like to address?
>|> 
>|> -- 
>|> Scott Probst: Brain and Behaviour Laboratory, Psychology dept, SFU
>|>               Graduate Issues Officer, Simon Fraser Student Society.
>|> e-mail: probst@fraser.sfu.ca - ph: (604) 291 3354/3181 - fax: (604) 291 5843
>|>               "yes, well, and here we go again..." - Dr H. S. Thompson
>
>So, are you guys going to Seattle or what?

Well, if you ever carpool with them, you'll surely be entertained!

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