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From: 84399@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Mehmetkahramanninformatik)
Subject: G.Saray,F.Bahce ve Trabzon Tur atladi
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 06:29:02 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim

UEFA kupasi Temsilcilerimizin Mac sonuclari
                      
                              1.mac                 2.mac

Galatasary-Katawice            0-0                   2-1
Fenerbahce-Botev plovdiv       3-1                   2-2

Kupa galipleri kupasi      

Trabzonspor-Turun Turku        2-0                   2-2

Sampiyon kulupler kupasi

BJK Besiktas-Goteborg          0-2                   2-1

2.Tur icin kura cekilisleri Cuma gunu Genf'te.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: kaymisrg@izmir.tmfu.EDU.TR (Resit Guner Kaymis)
Subject: yet another test...
Organization: Toptan Maganda Filan Universitesi, Istanbul
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:25:12 GMT

test, pleeze do not panic...
From: gt0702a@prism.gatech.EDU (Muzaffer Kayhan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Galatasaray-Katowice Sonucu
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:44:12 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Istanbul'da oynanan macta, Galatasaray Katowice'yi 2-1 yenerek, UEFA kupasinda

ikinci tura yukseldi.Ilk mac Polonya'da 0-0 sonuclanmisti.

Galatasaray'in gollerini Hakan ve Falco Gotz atti.Polonya takimindan uc oyuncu

kirmizi kartla oyun disi kaldilar.

    
-- 
Muzaffer Kayhan
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: gt0702a@prism.gatech.EDU (Muzaffer Kayhan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Turkish Soccer, 6th Round results
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:40:12 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

The following are the results of the games in the sixth week of play in the

Turkish 1st division.

Galatasaray:1 Trabzonspor:1

Altay:0 Fenerbahce:1

Konyaspor:2 Besiktas:2

Aydinspor:0 Bursaspor:1

Gaziantepspor:1 Karsiyaka:1

Ankaragucu:0 Kocaelispor:3

Bakirkoyspor:0 Kayserispor:0

Sariyer:1 Genclerbirligi:1


-- 
Muzaffer Kayhan
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: trh@jack.sns.COM ((Al Trh))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Northern California Special Broadcast
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:59:01 GMT
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BITNET@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science

For those of you living in Northern California (San Francisco Bay Area, etc.)
Kutay Kugay will have Mr. Rafael Ilyasof of the Tatarstab Radio on the air
at his program tomorrow.

Kutay's program is on KPFA and KPFB FM 94.1, and it will start at 8:00 P.M.

He is planning to have Mr. Ilyasof on at around 9:00 P.M. This is the first
time ever an official of the Tatar Republic has been to the US.

AToprak
trknws-l owner
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From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: re: voice of anatolia
Date: 30 Sep 1992 00:34:28 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
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  "Voice of Anatolia" UHF bandinda 25. kanaldan pazar gunleri 15:30 16:00
  arasinda yayin yapan ve New York ve yakin cevresinden izlenebilen bir
  program. 6 Ekim'den itibaren program suresi 1 saate cikacak ve programlar
  daha cok haber ve aktualite ile ilgili konulari isleyecek imis, programin
  yapimcisi Bn. Aliye Ak'a gore.
  Kimilerinin soylediklerinin tersine bu program HEM cable uzerinden HEM DE
  UHF bandindan izlenebiliniyor.

  Ahmet
From: kutluk@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Armenian Channel On IRC
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:51:28 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In <1a7u99INNfng@sol.usc.edu> asbed@sol.usc.edu (Asbed Bedrossian) writes:

>Here's a good example of how much human and woman rights you have in
>Turkey; your right not to suffer harassment, your right to be.

The chairperson of the main women abuse network of Turkey is Ms Matild
Manukyan, and yes, she is not an Azeri.

Kutluk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: mualla@pegasus.mbm.EDU (Mualla Neala)
Subject: Soc.Culture.Turkish FAQ uzerine
Organization: Madam Bovary Music School - Pensacola - LA
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:21:02 GMT

Bir arkadas Soc.Culture.Turkish'in FAQ'i varmi diye sormus??
Varsa bende rica ediym,lutfen post ediniz,ignore etmeyiniz.
Hayirli isler,
Mualla.
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From: TEX5HAD@CMS1.LEEDS.AC.UK (Haluk DEMIRBAG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: DISSIDENT UNITY
Date: 29 Sep 1992 20:02:20 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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DISSIDENT UNITY

Nicosia (Reuter)  - Iraqi opposition  groups ending a  meeting in
Kurd-controlled  northern Iraq  have  agreed to  unite to  topple
Saddam Hussein, Iraqi dissident sources said yesterday.

Shia and Sunni Muslims, Kurds, Turkomans and Assyrians as well as
Communists, Socialists, rebel Baathists backed by Syria and Saudi
Arabia,  and former  army  generals  met for  three  days in  the
northern town of Salahuddin, out of reach of Iraqi army.

Iraqi exiles said  the opposition groups had agreed  to set aside
differences in order to defeat President Saddam.

THE INDEPENDENT, 29 September 1992
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From: hminassi@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (GOTCHA!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Sour US / Turkish Relations
Date: 3 Oct 92 18:56:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


   This incident with the Saratoga is only reminiscent
of what happened between the US and Iraq during the 80's.
The US and Iraq were staunch allies and yet, a "mistake"
caused Iraq's launching of missiles at the US.  We all
know the US is trying to move away from Turkey, as it
no longer needs the strategic area.  This is a first
step of many calculated steps by the US to reduce to
$ 0 the amount of military aid to Turkey.

   Ictenlikle sizin,

   -Helgge
From: iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu (ARIT ISMAIL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: 5 turkish sailors and war games
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:51:33 GMT
Organization: Uppss Mistake! Ltd.


#define s.o.b  Son Of a Beauty


I can't believe something like this happens. Some s.o.b
(or a bunch of s.o.b) fires two missiles(note that,not just one),
on a friendly ship, just 3 miles away, in a Nato exercise and kills
5 turkish sailors, and they call it "accident".
Where the hell they think they are? in Irak..?
But, of course, the captain of Saratoga apologized for the incident,
so there is nothing else to do. He played his part. They even made fun
of this so-called "accident" on "Saturday Night Live".
Our fellow turkish sailors are dead today because of some s.o.b.
We should congragulate him for his excellent hit, right on
the captain's control room. Don't forget his army, who sees this as an
accident without even investigating it first. Yaa, it was  an accident,we
knew it!!.., even before it happened.

  - Private Sam!., tell me what happened heree!. Who fired those missiles?
  - Sir! It wasn't my fault, private george got  one of those Nintendo's
    war games. I had to go  to bathroom, when I came back,private george
    played a joke on me, he swaped ship's missile control joystick with
    Nintendo's joystick. I was thinking about firing two missiles on that
    enemy ship, got my target on my cross, and fired. I hit it right on
    the control room, Sir.
  - Ooo, Ok.. So, it was an accident. Go back to your post, private.
  - Yes, Sirrrr...


some guy's apology should NOT be enough for this. Whoever did this
should be punished.

Allah olenlerin yakinlarina yardimci olsun,olenlerin gunahlarini affetsin.
Ismail
From: TEX5HAD@CMS1.LEEDS.AC.UK (Haluk DEMIRBAG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: TURKISH JVS IN CENTRAL ASIA
Date: 6 Oct 1992 17:23:33 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
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TURKISH JVS IN CENTRAL ASIA

    Turkish mining company Birlesmis Muhendisler Birligi (BMB) is
about  to sign  joint venture  contracts with  the Government  of
Kyrgyzstan  to  develop  the  central Asian  state's  three  gold
minefields. Industry sources have  indicated that the deposits in
three regions  of the former-Soviet republic  contain recoverable
reserves of  more than  400 t of  gold although  Kyrgyz officials
declined to give  details of the reserve figures.  The largest of
the  three  gold  fields  under  consideration  is  Kumtur  which
contains  an estimated  320 t  of  gold reserves.  The other  two
fields in the Jeroy and Makmar regions contain over 80 t of gold.

    Bordered by  China to  the southeast  and Tadjikistan  to the
southwest,  Kyrgzystan  covers  an  area  of  some  198,000  km2.
Although the  country is rich  in minerals, particulary  gold and
uranium,  mineral production  in the  past has  focused upon  its
energy resources. In 1989, Kyrgyzstan  produced 4 Mt of coal, and
significant  amounts  of  natural  gas.  The  government  is  now
determined  to utilise  the country's  resources to  overcome the
economic bottlenecks that Kyrgyzstan is currently facing.

    The Kyrgyz  authorities declined earlier offers  submitted by
seven  U.S. companies  to develop  the gold  fields as  they only
proposed to exploit  the country's gold reserves.  BMB is looking
to set  up gold  refineries in  the country  and also  to exploit
Kyrgyzstan's coal reserves at a proposed rate of 800,000 t/y.

    BMB  last week  signed a  similar deal  with Turkmenistan  to
develop gold fields in the  Turakir and Balkan regions. According
to  BMB's  chairman,  Mr  Ali Riza  Bozkurt,  the  deposits  have
estimated  reserves of  over 250  t of  gold. In  July, BMB  also
signed an energy deal with Kazakhstanto  set up a L 1,700 million
thermal power plant  to operate for Kazakh oil  fields with total
reserves of some 81 Mt. BMB will also rehabilitate existing wells
in two other Kazakh oil fields.

MINING JOURNAL, September 4, 1992. Volume 319, No 8189. pp 1
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|-| /-\ |_ |_| |< (- Der Spiegel reporter  : Why do you think that Turkey
                                             is not accepted into the EC?
                   - President Turgut Ozal : I think it is because you
                                             (Europe) are Christian and
                                             we (Turks) are Muslim.)
From: Guven.Guzeldere%STANFORD.BITNET@ohstvma.acs.ohio-state.edu (hq.ggg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Voice of Turkey
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:02:49 GMT
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BITNET@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science

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Bu tv yayini ile ilgili olarak Hurriyet gazetesinin Almanya ve ABD
baskisinda hergun ilan cikiyor. Bu kanal sadece New York City de
seyredibilen bir cable  yayin.

osman
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Speaking of democracy...
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 21:33:14 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <BvEItt.K3K@news.cso.uiuc.edu> varnavas@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (varnavas constantine) writes:

>In my opinion it is a sign of democracy for people to disagree - even about
>what democracy is.  To condemn the spectrum of opinions as "misinterpretations"
>it is certainly not democratic.  Polyphony is the cornerstone of democracy.

Without realizing it, we fill important places in each other's lives.
As for democracy, had democracy really been an inherent virtue of the 
Greeks would it have dragged its feet for so long to come to Greece? 

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
From: TEX5HAD@CMS1.LEEDS.AC.UK (Haluk DEMIRBAG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: SENSE OF DOOM (Ozal and the Iraqi Opposition)
Date: 2 Oct 1992 01:12:42 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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SENSE OF DOOM

From Hugh Pope

(...)

Ozal and the Iraqi Opposition

There was little  new in  this.  More interesting  was a  meeting
between President Ozal and some  of the members of the opposition
Iraqi  National Congress  who met  James Baker  in Washington  in
July. Barzani  and Talabani  brought along the  Shi'ites Muhammad
Bahr-al Ulum, Hani al-Fukaki and Shaikh Sami Azar, as well as the
Sunnis Ayad  al-Alawi and Muhammad al-Alusi.  Dr Muzaffer Arslan,
the Turkish  backed leader of  Iraq's Turkmen minority,  was also
present to discuss  the future of Iraq without  Saddam. A Turkish
newspaper  reported  that  the meeting  discussed  expanding  the
allies' security zone in northern Iraq  from the 36th to the 34th
parallel seemed to gain credence when Dr Aslan called for this to
happen  "for the  protection  of his  community" centered  around
Kirkuk. This  would of course bring  the city and its  oil fields
back within  a zone  of Turkish  influence that  was lost  in the
1920s, long a goal attributed to Ozal.

The government and the foreign ministry distanced themselves from
the meetings and  some Turkish leaders denounced them  as part of
an  American plot.  But although  he  may no  longer run  Turkish
foreign policy,  Ozal has certainly put  a stop to a  tendency in
Ankara to move towards normalisation of relations with Baghdad.

(...)

MIDDLE EAST INTERNATIONAL, 11 September 1992
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                   player." Jonathan Eyal, The Guardian}
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: Soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: A.R.G.I.C. commited systematic genocide against truth
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:29:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


>   'All the self-interested justifications of the newspapers of Europe,
>    all the lies which they have used to cover up the truth, can
>    never destroy the impression of the terrible anguish which has

Turkish Rasist Propadanda Rule # 4334:

 When the Turkish lies are exposed, blame the press for exposing them.
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: test--ignore/ deneme--aldirma!
Date: 4 Oct 1992 17:03:10 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Deneme/test
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: How Turks view Democracy  
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:51:15 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

  
> In article <BvDA6x.IHB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Ta
> >armagan@sassafras (Armagan Ozdinc) writes:  
> >  
> >>In article <Bv7nDB.EFv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos
> >>   
> >>|>  God should help Kurds for their rightful war against Turks. Because, d
> >>|>  the strategic position of Turkey, the "civilized" west is not going to
> >>|>  help them. I wish them good luck.  
> >  
  
AO> >>I also wish a good luck to Macedonians in their rightfull struggle again
AO> >>Greece.  
AO> >> MACEDONIA is for MACEDONIANS, not for GREEKS  
  
AO> >>Armagan A. Ozdinc  
  
PT> >  
PT> > You are confused.  Macedonians are Greeks.  Macedonia is our land, and i
PT> > is a Greek land.  Clear enough.  
  
PT> >Panos Tamamidis  
   
SY> No, no! It is the other way around. You _are_ confused!   
SY>   
SY> Greeks _are_ Macedonians! Greece is their land and it is a Macedonian land
SY> Clear enough?!  ;-)  
  
NO! NO!  
Try this:  
  
Those lands you named Macedonia and Greece are all OUR Land, because they are 
OUR GOD's Land as Tariq Bin Ziad indicated, and we gave them to you as a   
pledge, and if you don't look after them nicely and peacefully, then we will  
definitely take them back from you, and settle down all your disputes....  
  
Tamam mi - Tamamidis ?  
Say: TAMAM !  
  
MARCO PASHA  
  
> regards,  
> -sy-  
>   
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From: scgeoff@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GEOFF ELLIOTT)
Subject: Tragedy in Ege
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  2 Oct 1992 06:56 EST  


My heartfelt sympathies to Turkiye and the families of the dead sailors
killed yesterday in the Ege by two missiles from the USS Saratoga.  How
something like that could happen is beyond belief.  I sincerely hope that
if it was human error that the person is strongly punished.

As an American who is married to a Turk, I feel the sorrow even more.

Eniste
From: hminassi@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (GOTCHA!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Pictures of life in Turkey wanted.
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:41:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.38963
Organization: University of California, San Diego

From: naras@cda.mrs.umn.edu (B. Narasimhan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Pictures of life in Turkey wanted.

>A friend of mine is giving a presentation on Turkey to
>elementary school children. He wishes to show them
>pictures of Turkey. Please send him mail directly.

Division of Science and Math.

    Dear B. (may I call you B.?), I have many many suggestions
for you about pictures of life in Turkey, but I won't bore you
with all of them:

     -     The first place to look, of course, is at the hidden
Turkish archives which show Armenian men hanging from ropes.
Many Turkish officials will tell you that this is how Armenians
relaxed on sunny days in 1915.

     -     Another good place for pictures of life in Turkey
is the New York Times, which recently showed how the Kurds
seem to "live" in Turkey.

     -     I know it is hard to keep the attention of elementary
school children, so showing them a movie about life in Turkey is
very advisable.  One good documentary about life in Turkey is of
course the well-known, "Midnight Express", which not only shows
actually scenery but also underlines the genuine hospitality of
Turkey.  Be sure to provide the children with pop-corn. :)

     Good luck on your "picture hunting", and remember, pictures
never lie :))).


     Iktenlikle sizin,

     -H.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: cza@troy.uucp (C. Akgun)
Subject: Re: Tragedy in Ege
Organization: BCR, NJ-USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 13:45:04 GMT

In article <2OCT199206565720@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scgeoff@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GEOFF ELLIOTT) writes:
>
>My heartfelt sympathies to Turkiye and the families of the dead sailors
>killed yesterday in the Ege by two missiles from the USS Saratoga.  How
>something like that could happen is beyond belief.  I sincerely hope that
>if it was human error that the person is strongly punished.
>
>As an American who is married to a Turk, I feel the sorrow even more.
>
>Eniste
>
>

What is wrong with the U.S. Navy in these days?  Since they
could not have their tail-hook party this year in the USA, 
it seems like they took it over the Ege (Agean sea) last night.
I heard 5 dead, 4 missing, and a heavyly demaged Turkish
Destroyer (some destroyer) called Muavet which is now being towed 
to a Turkish port. 

GEOFF's heart felt sorrow is nice.  However, Turkish
goverment must ask a formal appology from the US and full
cooperation to heal the wounds of such mistake rather
than pussyfooting around this issue.

C. Akgun
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: How "tamtams" view 17.5-year-old democracy: Greek barbarism.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:36:47 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <BvB1GB.H3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:

>>Source: Statement made by Mr. Evangelos Yannopoulus - the Greek Minister
>>	of Maritime Affairs, ELEFTHEROTIPIA, July 4, 1988

> You should update your records.  People cannot keep replying to your
> same old crap.

Are you half-drunk?

  <<The Greek War of Independence brought disaster to the Jewish communities
  in the Peloponnesos, where the revolution erupted in 1821. The Jews,
  because of their close association with the Ottoman administration,
  were massacred along with the Turks. The Jewish communities of Mistras,
  Tripolis, and Kalamata were decimated; the few survivors moved north to
  settle in Chalkis and Volos, still under Ottoman rule. Patras lost its
  ancient Jewish community, which was refounded only in 1905.>>


                                         Nikos Stavroulakis
                                      'Athens-Auschwitz', page ix.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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