From: gilbertc@borland.com (Gilbert Catipon)
Subject: Re: 2nd reply(long) to "..Christians out there?"
Originator: gilbertc@genghis.borland.com
Keywords: 2nd reply to "..Christians out there?"
Organization: Borland International
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 01:37:24 GMT

In article <BzIAn3.5Iv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ajpg1322@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Angelo J. Paguia) writes:
>In article <Byx183.L9p@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, deguzman@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R. DeGuzman) writes:
>> 
>> Hi all.  Ang pangalan ko ay Michael.  Gusto ko lang malaman kung
>> mayroon bang manga Christiano sa Pilipinas.  I grew up as a Roman
>> Catholic but now that I have come to age I follow the Bible. The Word
>> of God.  There are some disagreements I see between the Bible and Catholism
>> First of all I want to make clear that the Bible is THE WORD OF GOD and everything in it is right.  Well only the original greek text is error free, but 
>> this is the closest.
>> 	In the Bible it states that Mary was used by God to bring His son
>> 	in Human flesh.  But why do catholics worship Mary?  Isn't this idolitry	Anybody can and will be used by God, That's why we're all here,
>> 	I or you can be used the same sense as God used Mary.  The Bible
>> 	states that "You should only worship Him."
>> 
>> 	The Bible does not state the presence of purgatory. So why is there 
>> 	purgatory in Catholism?  History revealed that the Church of long 
>> 	ago needed to raise money so they said that if you give more money
>> 	the souls of you and your relatives would get out of purgatory
>> 	Can somebody tell me if this is right or wrong?

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>> 	Also everybody who has accepted the gift of eternal life is a saint.
>> 	Man or woman it doesn't matter.
>> 
>> 	That's all for now.  But let me take a moment to declare my intentions.
>> 	The sole purpose of this letter is to see the difference between 
>> 	Christianity and Catholism.  I am Christian.  It only meaning that I hav	e a relationship with Christ.  (Christianity means Christ in one).
>> 	So this is not a religion but a relationship.  I would like to know 
>> 	the difference and why one is correct or not.  I am a strong believer
>> 	In the Bible and I try to follow what it says.  I am not pointing 
>> 	fingers either.  I just want to find out for myself.

>> 
>> 
>> 	I really appreciate you taking the tim e to read this letter
>> 
>> 
>> 	Salamat po,
>> 
>> 	Mike
>>
>
>     Not to try to kick a dead horse, I am writing one more time on this
>previous post to tie up some loose ends that were not obvious to me
>when I put up my previous response.
>
>When I asked Mike de Guzman in my first letter, "Who told you that
>the Bible is the Word of God ?", I did not intend to put into doubt
>that the Bible is indeed the Word of God. There is no question about
>that. The important point to realize is that, if you found a book
>in the middle of the desert and realized that it was 2000 years old,
>who is to know that it carries the Word of God ?

 [great stuff deleted]

>Did these leaders, believers in Sola Scriptori and Sola Fidei, repeat
>the events in John 6:53-66 and doom themselves ? I pray that they didn't.
>And, seeing how much faith they had in their convictions, I keep the 
>faith, for their own sake and mine, that there is a Purgatory.
>
>May God grant you abundant blessings in the coming holidays and always.
>
>Angelo
>
>P.S. In the 1st post, I quoted the Rabbinical Council of Jamnia to
>have occurred in 1000 A.D. I had one zero too many, it was 100 A.D. Sorry.
>

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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 91 17:36:59 pst
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From: Eric A. Gutierrez <tate!uunet!ecst.csuchico.edu!ericag>
To: gilbertc@dbase.a-t.com
Subject: Re: Almighty God Part 5 - Reply to Mr. Gutierrez, Now to Mr. Castillo
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino

Thanks for the comment  and the email....
I'll come out with a super long post [part 7]  but I haven't had too much
time lately...

I was very hard on Mr. Argete, because this topic was extremely important to me
and to some others... plus the fact that part 4 and part 5 took me more
than 10 hours straight to write... so that was what made me snap back at him...

Some people just don't know how long it takes to write an article...

Anyway... thanks for keeping this topic "alive"  I need to get started
on that article... it's going to be as complete as possible...
...and I'll declare my "religion" then...

You'll be surprised!
Eric
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From: ericag@ecst.csuchico.edu (Eric A. Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Goodbye S.C.F.!!
Date: 6 Mar 92 08:22:26 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

Time for me to say "paalam, goodbye, adios, sayonara, avjo, alvida, adieu, etc."
[stuff deleted]
and...one last little comment on the boycott the election stuff...

                  "Do not put your trust in nobles.
                   Nor in the son of earthling man, 
                   to whom no salvation belongs.
                   His spirit goes out, he goes back  
                   to his ground.  In that day his
                   thoughts do perish."  - Ps146:3,4

It's been fun... 

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bye,
Eric

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Eric Gutierrez y Alcantara          |  For a something new , the old must be
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Well as I write this there is only a few hours left for the year 
  nineteen hundred and ninety two. I write to praise Eric not to mock him,
  however he did state to people that the end of the world was to happen this
  year and it looks like he is incorrect. Happy New Year (Prospero An~o) Eric 
  and if I have somehow missed his "super long post" [part 7] where he
  tells everyone what his relegion is/was, could somebody post it again? 


Salamat,
Gilbert Catipon 
gilbertc@borland.com




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