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From: x551_005@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: JB on tour?
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:01:25 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <1992Nov4.111737.16884@dxcern.cern.ch>, trones@dxcern.cern.ch (Jostein Lodve Trones) writes:
> 
> Anybody out there know if James Brown plays concerts these days?
> Or if he has plans for this?
> Will he visit Europe in the not-to-far future?
> 
> On more thing, does there exist a newsgroup for jazz? Or is this 
> as close as I can get...
> 
> Cheers, Jostein
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 17:36:09 -0500 
From: Jason Nathaniel Cohen <jcas+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 24-7 Spyz ?

24-7 Spyz is every other band that came before or after them. If you
wanna check out another band they even take riffs from check out
Psychefunkapus!!!!!
THis
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        If we could fly away on wings
        To a place where all could be true
        And the skies were blue
        And Love was true
        And me and YOU
        How I wish the sun would shine
        How I wish the the sun would shine!!!!


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From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Subject: Re: NENEH CHERRY new CD, any comments ?
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:01:25 GMT

deutsch+@cs.cmu.edu (Alain Deutsch) writes:

> Any comments about Neneh Cherry new CD, "Homebrew" ?

Not yet (expect a Kronto Review before the end of the year), but
it was reviewed very favourably here in Holland, and the first
single off of it, 'Money Talks' is incredibly awesome.

-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:24:00 -0500 
From: "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 24-7 Spyz ?
	<s5o9gfo@zola.esd.sgi.com>

The 24-7 Spyz are pretty cool. I saw them this summer at the Limelight
in New York, and they were filming a video, so anything was allowed;
consequently, there were about 4 people (besides the band) onstage at
all times, grooving and getting read to dive. It was pretty crazy, and a
good time over all.

The latest full-length album, Strength in Numbers, is pretty good as
well, though I agree with whoever it was who said they liked the earlier
line-up better.

You can expect a good show. They definitely blow Living Colour (to whom
they are often compared) out of the water.

Megan
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:48:19 -0500 
From: "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Billy Goat

Billy Goat, I've heard, broke up about a month ago. I'm not sure if this
is true or not, but the guy who told me said he's friends with them, so
... whatever. I hope he's wrong.

They have an album out (it's called Bush Roaming Mammals, on Epic or
Columbia, I think), and it's really good, except for the last two
tracks. The band's originally from Austin, TX, I think, and in concert,
they were great. Lots of fun lovin' funky shake-your-booty stuff.

If anyone can confirm or deny the rumor I heard, it would be much appreciated.

Megan
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
From: sloth@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak)
Subject: Re: Pfunk lyrics, tabs, chords, ... definate request!
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:39:21 GMT

622622 (zonnevel@dutiws.tudelft.nl) wrote:
: I'm looking for them funky lyricses, tabs, chords or anything you can
: find, tell me, whatever on the P-funk! Mail me anything!
Or even better, post it to rec.music.funky. (especially ftp sites.)
: Is there maybe an ftp-site somewhere where I can find some more stuff then
: 

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From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: 24-7 Spyz ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:42:13 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

Hey...

Ive got their latest album, and Ive thought about getting their earlier stuff
Is it good? I know they have this red/orange/green looking one that came out
before this one, and then, im assuming their first demo which is like 19:47
long with the same songs on a & b...Any reviews will be well appreciated!!

                                                        Peace
                                                          RJ
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:50:53 -0500 
From: Jason Nathaniel Cohen <jcas+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 24-7 Spyz ?
	<s5o9gfo@zola.esd.sgi.com>
	<0f01dUy00iUyI5e0kK@andrew.cmu.edu>

Compare these guys all you want to Living Colour, Follow for Now, or any
other black rock. But never, NEVER put them in comparison to FISHBONE.
Fishbone is red hot and thats all to be said.


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        If we could fly away on wings
        To a place where all could be true
        And the skies were blue
        And Love was true
        And me and YOU
        How I wish the sun would shine
        How I wish the the sun would shine!!!!


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From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Mr Fingers was: (Re: House Music Reviews?)
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:38:01 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook


Hey...

This "Atmosphere" double album....PLEASE tell me more about it!!! Is it  all
Mr. Fingers stuff, or is it one of them "various artists" CD's??!! Is  It good?
Is it available on CD??!!! What name is it listed by, I mean, Is Atmosphere the
name of the album/ or the name of the performer/ or both??!! (Yes, Im trippin')
:)  Please give me all the 411!!!

                                                       Peace
                                                        RJ
From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Mr Fingers was:(Re: House Music Reviews?)
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:01:00 GMT
Reply-To: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

In article <clg1.721157509@Isis.MsState.Edu>, clg1@ra.msstate.edu (Chris "deephouse" Gray) writes:
|> cs125b55@eng-nxt14.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes:

|> 
|> >House music fans,
|> 
|> >What CD album do you recommend?  Reviews are appreciated.
|> >Does anybody have Mr. Fingers' _Introduction_?  How is it?
|> >Thanks.
[Stuff deleted]
 
|> I am hunting all the old fingers I can.
|> 
|> My fav so far is the one released on TRAX records here in Chicago:
|> 
|> "Can You Feel It"
|> 
|> Oh well, back to writing my own fingers-inspired tracks.

 How many albums  have Larry Heard released?

 I got a double album called "Atmosphere"(?) with early tracks on it by Mr. 
 Fingers. "Can You feel it", "Washing Machine" etc.

  The It, "Sittin' on top of the world" on CD. A collaboration with someone
 who mostly talks the lyrics. Good stuff.

 I know there is an album by a group called Fingers Inc. Has this anything to do 
 with Larry Heard?
 
|> 
|> peace.
|>     
|> -- 
|> BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS
|> Mr. Christopher L. Gray   * Blak Kings and Queens 
|> clg1@ra.MsState.edu       *     Come Forth! 
|> BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS   


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From: paien00@DMI.USherb.CA (Nick)
Subject: Alt & the lost civilisation
Organization: Ascot Boyz - ANS Reader - BB #1
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:24:35 GMT

Hi!

	I would like to know if anybody out there would have the
lyrics of the TEQUILLA song from ALT & the lost civilisation????

If so could it be possible to mail them to me... thanks!

paien00@dmi.usherb.ca


-- 
						Nick
  - Ce n'est pas parce qu'une rumeur ne tient   
     pas debout... qu'elle ne peut courir !
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Sade
From: Todd Yeager <TMY@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:51:30 EST

I heard a rumor that Sade is about to, or already has, release(d) a new CD.
I understood that she got married to some prince or something and had put her
gorgeous musical talents on permanent standby.  Can anyone confirm or deny
this rumor?

Todd Yeager
tmy@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
TMY@WVNVM
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
From: clg1@ra.msstate.edu (Chris "deephouse" Gray)
Subject: Re: House Music Reviews?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:31:49 GMT

cs125b55@eng-nxt14.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes:

>House music fans,

>What CD album do you recommend?  Reviews are appreciated.
>Does anybody have Mr. Fingers' _Introduction_?  How is it?
>Thanks.



>					Digital Overdose

*cracks his knuckles...been months since he's posted*

I have the fingers cd.  Marvelous.  I can't get enough of it.
I think you should turn the lights off one quiet night, and
meditate(not to Satan or anything like that ##:) to
"Children at Play" and "On My Way".  Of course the rest of the
cd slams.

I've gotten to the point where I reprogram the tracks.  I start off
with  sea shore song(obviously doesn't have his cd in front of him)
and then go on to "Soul Survivor" then to "On My Way" etc.

I am hunting all the old fingers I can.

My fav so far is the one released on TRAX records here in Chicago:

"Can You Feel It"

Oh well, back to writing my own fingers-inspired tracks.

peace.
    
-- 
BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS
Mr. Christopher L. Gray   * Blak Kings and Queens 
clg1@ra.MsState.edu       *     Come Forth! 
BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS   
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
From: biloggen@cs.few.eur.nl (R.P. Loggen)
Subject: What ever happened to Tom Browne?
Organization: Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:24:20 GMT

Early '80 Tom Browne had this great Hit Funkin For Jamaica 
here in Europe.
After that, (which I still consider to be THE funkiest song
I've ever heard), everything became very quiet.
What's he doing?

R.P. Loggen
  
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Junior Wells
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:01:01 GMT


Just saw this cat recently, and it was HOT. Or as Junior put it, "So funky
you could smell it as soon as you walk into the place". Although most
categorizations would put Wells as "Blues", his band was FUNKY with a
capital F. Like most blues shows, the band came out and funked the house
with two 10 min long warm up funk jams, and then Junior came out. He's
old, he's got a James Brown complex (lots o jewlery, calls himself 
"Godfather of the Blues"), but boy, i cant recommend him highly enough.
He and his band earn Rob's highest rating for live music, FUCKINGRUVEN.

-rob
From: zonnevel@dutiws.tudelft.nl (622622)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: What should I buy..........Funk me out, please!!!!
Date: 8 Nov 92 13:44:23 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology,The Netherlands

DAMN RIGHT, the Young Disciples are definately funkee! Check them out most
seriously.

Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam!

 'Peace Y'all. I'm at:   zonnevel@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl    YO  Peace Increase
 'Freedom is free of the need to be free' - George Clinton YO     from me 
 'With love there is no death' - Prince                    YO    FunkyTrip 
YOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYO
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Subject: Re: 24-7 Spyz ?
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:26:59 GMT

Speaking of Fishbone...

Whats taking them so long to drop some new material??  I know they tour a lot
etc. but Damn! Seems like they fell off the side of the earth!!...and took my
baby Teena Marie with them!!

                                                      RJ

                                  
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
From: blackmon@eng.auburn.edu (Ferrol Rawson Blackmon)
Subject: Re: 24-7 Spyz ?
Reply-To: blackmon@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:04:04 GMT

In article 061192111254@mac83.ils.nwu.edu, lind@ils.nwu.edu (Jeff Lind) writes:
> Has anyone heard these guys?  They're playing around the corner from me
> this weekend, so I thought I might go check them out.  I know they are from
> New York and are usually described as Urban Funk.  What kind of show can I
> expect?
> 
> --Jeff


Hey,

	These dudes are really really good.  It's sorta like old Living 
Colour and Follow for Now.  Personally I think Follow for Now is better,
but that's me.  You will have an awesome show, no doubt.

			  Peace
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From: ud8@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Tower of Power
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:29:58 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Does anyone still listen to Tower of Power? They have recently moved in
a sort of modern jazz direction but can still make you get up and dance.
They hooked up with a teriffic new singer a few years ago and released a
great CD in 1991 called "Monster on a Leash," which is one funky disc.
Check it out and you will not be disappointed.
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Mr Fingers was:(Re: House Music Reviews?)
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:37:58 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand) writes:
:
| I got a double album called "Atmosphere"(?) with early tracks on it by Mr. 
| Fingers. "Can You feel it", "Washing Machine" etc.

If it has "Can You feel it", "Washing Machine" etc. on it then I imagine
it's called "Amnesia" -- this is what it was released in the UK as at
least (FING-2 on Indigo).

| I know there is an album by a group called Fingers Inc. Has this
| anything to do with Larry Heard?

Fingers Inc. is Larry Heard + one maybe two guys whose name I can't
recall. He seemed to use the Inc. monicker when he worked with other
people.

Tx.
-- 
Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
From: lam@festival.ed.ac.uk (L Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: 24-7 Spyz ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:46:39 GMT

lind@ils.nwu.edu (Jeff Lind) writes:

>Has anyone heard these guys?  They're playing around the corner from me
>this weekend, so I thought I might go check them out.  I know they are from
>New York and are usually described as Urban Funk.  What kind of show can I
>expect?

>--Jeff

Totally exellent group, they go between funk/jazz , funk/rock, funk/metal
etc. I don't know what they're like live though - I would really like to
see them in the UK, anyone know if they're going to be playing soon?

Lin
From: chamber@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Craig Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: a question about a newage artist
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:41:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)

In article <1992Nov03.224552.104019@zeus.calpoly.edu> hmoon@zeus.calpoly.edu (Hyung Min Moon) writes:
>Do you know Zimmerman who made the soundtrack for the movie "Rainman"?
>I was wondering whether he has come out with his own album.
>If he did, can you post the name of the CD?
>Thanks in advance.

I might have the names mixed up, but if you're talking about
Hans Zimmer, he's done several soundtracks, including for the
recent movie "Radio Flyer" and the PBS "Millennium" series.
-- 
(My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer.)
Craig Chamberlain, Software Engineer, Applicon Schlumberger
Ann Arbor, Michigan  chamber@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com  (313) 995-6310
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: glenns@tronsbox.xei.com (Glenn S.)
Subject: Re: Kitari (was Re: Yanni)
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:23:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.154425.28916@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:

>I first heard Kitaro on a Music from The Hearts of Space program that
>a friend in San Fransisco taped for me in 1980 and I immediately went to
>Japantown in SF and bought The Silk Road. I then bought a few Kitaro albums
>after that but I find they all sound the same. I bought Dream because
>Jon Anderson does vocals on few tunes.

Yeah... We get Music from the Hearts of Space out here too, but I've been too
damned busy to listen to it!  Another good artist is James Asher.  His album
(only one to my knowledge) is _The Great Wheel_... I heard the title track
on CD 101.9's New Age New York on Sunday nights.  It's almost 1/2 hour long,
and if you like minimalist music, you'd love this!  (He has some other types
of music on the album.. very uppy etc., but the title track's the best (IMHO))
It basically starts out with one pattern... then it 'evolves' at the end, it
comes back to the original pattern... it gets very complex for a little while
which isn't saying much for minimalist, but hey.. :}
 
Anywho.. I can't think of the label he's on right off the bat, and it's
on loan to friends (heh.. that CD is *always* on loan to friends.. :} ).
 
B*B
Glenn


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From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: David Van Tieghem
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:22:09 GMT
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <1da7juINN4li@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, rhett@yoyodyne.WPI.EDU (Rhett Shain Brown) writes:
>Anybody out there a David Van Tieghem fan??
>
>I have These Things Happen, Safety in Numbers, and Strange Cargo.
>I know more recordings of his dance commisions must exist and I want to know
>where I can get them, or If I can.  If anyone knows anything or just wants
>to comment on how great or horrible they think he is, please post.
>
>Thanks
>

I recall seeing a video of his a few years back that I really enjoyed. It was 
him with two drumsticks walking down the street and playing a great beat on
the walls, streets, windows, garbage cans etc.

Bob
From: bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Yanni
Date: 7 Nov 92 13:39:42 MST
Organization: The Back Burner BBS (via C-Net Amiga)

On Sat  7-Nov-1992  1:37p, Hyung Min Moon wrote:

HM>      Have any of you bought the recent album of Yanni,"Dare to Dream?"
HM> If you have, what do you think of his new album?  I like " aria" in the
HM> new album, the soudtrack used for the commercial of the British Airways.

Out of the CDs I have from Yanni, 'Dare To Dream' is the only one I listen to
on a regular basis.  'Keys to Imagination' and 'Out of Silence' contain only a
handfull of tracks I really like.  They all seemed to sound the same.

Dare to Dream is a very 'upbeat' CD, I like almost everything on it.. It's
almost a different Yanni than we've all heard before.

HM>      -hmoon

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From: happy@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Rusty Soots)
Subject: Re: Christmas Music
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:27:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.013317.11544@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:
>Recently, someone mentioned a CD by Peter Kater of New Age
>Christmas music.  Does anyone out there have recommendations
>for some good, fairly recent, New Age Christmas CDs?  Anything
>that might fall under the New Age rubric is fine, from folky to
>total synth.  I bought one this season already called Festival
>of the Heart (forgot the artist) which is great!  I already have
>lots of Christmas discs, so please don't go back as far as
>Winston's December, but anything from the past few years that
>is probably still available would be appreciated. Post or e-mail
>to me (Michael) at:  mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu.

  I have three recommendations.  Both of the Manheim Steamroller
Christmas cd's are wonderful.  They're both mixtures of synth and folk
music, some medieval sounding Xmas music as well.  Good stuff all around.
  The other cd, which I recommend most of all, is Teja Bell's "The New
Spirit of Christmas".  As a matter of fact, I'm listenning to it as I
type!  :)  This cd combines synth, violin, guitar, organ, bells
(tubular), etc.  The combos of these is great.  Most of these songs
are old traditionals with some new ones.  Mellow yet very enjoyable.
Excellent all around.
  Well enough ramblings, that's my 2.3 cents.  :)  Anybody else have
any suggestions?  I'm in the market for some more xmas cd's myself.
:)

							Rusty

							
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