HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AW: late christmas remarks
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:48:19 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

n8243057@henson.cc.wwu.edu (NSFosberg) writes:



>oh, ps, i think that it was ms coppola singing at the end of the show (which

Singing what?  I heard Jenna's voice above all the other carrollers.  Is 
that what you are referring to, or did someone do a solo?

>i have vowed to save forever (a soap addict's first for me)). i addition to
>the voice sounding like her, they had that little joke while they were out
>carroling, when kevin said, you really can't sing, can you?  and i know she
>is a musician, so why not a fabulous singer? anyhow, i tried watching the

She was on MTV for awhile as a correspondent, but I didn't know she was
a musician.  I thought she worked as a record producer before she did 
the MTV gig.

>credits, but they didn't list who did the song (at least not that i saw), so
>if anyone knows for sure, please let me/us know....

Remind me what it was that was sung?

-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
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From: mcguire@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Melissa Mcguire)
Subject: AMC:TAN: name changing
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Jan 1993 10:34 EST  



I just wanted to follow up on the tangent of name-changing upon
marriage that I started a couple of days ago.  Someone wished me 
well in case I was another of those stricked by that engagement
desease.  Thank you for the kind words, but I am NOT getting 
married now or anytime in the near future.  

There I feel much better.

Currently, I am breaking up/getting back together with my SO of
two years.  But at the same time, I am very much interested in
someone else; a friend of mine, whom I have know for a year and 
a half.  I cannot choose and do not know if that is really fair
in the first place.  So I have told them both to give me some time.
Unfortunatly, they each are finding this increasingly difficult to 
do and making my life into a true soap opera.  And I HATE it!!!!!

Thank you for listening.


Melissa (too many men....too many men!!!:() McGuire

Have a great day!
From: susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Godzilla Speaks Quasi-Update 930103
Date: 4 Jan 1993 18:32:19 GMT
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ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu wrote:

: Besides, at this point (7 year anniversary is Monday) I think
: mostly to him I sound like an adult in those old Charlie Brown specials.  
: Remember the grownups never have real dialogue, they just kind of go 
: "bwap bwap bwap".  I suspect that's about what he hears by now :).

Ann, I just choked on lunch!  Too funny!
Whatcha tryin' to do?  Get me fired?
 
:]

Susan 

P.S. By the way, in a semi-related note, my voice sounds like
     Peppermint Patty from the Charlie Brown specials - less 
     now than when I was younger.  I hate it, but a cousin's 
     boyfriend once upon a time couldn't get enough of it. 
     He used to make me say, "Hi, Chuck" all the time!  I was
     about 5 years old at the time, so he used to get me to 
     say it by promising me piggy back rides.  Those were the
     days!

--
Susan E. Margulies       |  "Isn't revenge enough?"
HP Imaging Systems       |     -- Erica Kane  
susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com  |  

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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:45:41 -0500 
From: Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: KL: Final Season!


This just in from today's USA TODAY: (retyped without permission)

"Series to End After 14 years" by Matt Roush

The writing probaby was on the wall for Knots Landing when founding
member Valene Ewing died this fall in a car crash, and nobody noticed.

But CBS' announcement Friday that the venerable prime-time soap - the
last in a once-proud and dominant Genre that included Dallas, Falcon
Crest and Dynasty - would end this spring comes as one more reminder
that all things on TV come to an end.  Carson, Cheers. Et tu, Ewings?

After 14 seasons, and more episodes (344) than any series except
Gunsmoke, Bonanza and Dallas, Knots will wrap production next Monday. 
All will be tied up in  a two-hour May finale that series creator David
Jacobs promises will be a "logical conclusion that will feel like a
journey's end."  He said a half-dozen gimmicks were considered but
rejected, "though there is a funny little twist."

Jacobs says the decision to end was "mutual" between producers and
network.  Still, he and co-executive producer Michael Filerman made the
final call.  "We don't know if  they would have picked us up
anyway...but even if they had, we would have had to pare away more to
survive."

Network economics finally claimed KL, after years of cast pruning that
began when Constance McCashin (Laura) and Julie  Harris (Lilimae) left
in 1987.  This season, regulars agreed to appear in fewer episodes, even
when it got in the way of the story.

"It didn't make sense to keep going." says Jacobs, though he contends
"it could have run forever. The characters are fresh enough, with
stories left to tell, and the show reflects changing times."

Knots always shone as the least guilty of TV's guilty pleasures,
cleverly spinning its webs of heightened intrigue against the
audience-friendly parlors of suburban kitchens and bedrooms.

So, with what will CBS fill that Thursday hole next fall?

Try this:  If ABC mistreats Homefront as badly as fans fear will happen,
CBS should pick it up and give it a 14-year run.

---------

Oh well....I knew it was coming soon but I had hoped to have another
season of KL.  I wonder if TNT will replay all the old shows again.  NOW
I want to tape them....

And to finally get Nick back only to see him go....sigh....

Liz

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Date: Thu,  7 Jan 1993 09:05:14 -0500 
From: Karin Brennan <kb4c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: GL: New Mindy
	<1if8qnINNcn3@umbc4.umbc.edu>

 sher@umbc3.umbc.edu (Sherri Crain) writes:

  I feel exactly the same way.  I generally give the new actress a chance
before I judge them,but this girl is awful!  She even has some sort of
accent that no other Lewis has.  She hasn't made any attempt what-so-
ever to bring in any of the old Mindy's mannerisms.  I have the feeling
this girl has never seen the old Mindy in action.

************
That accent you are hearing is called a "bad country twange". Not only
that, but you can hear that it comes and goes with how 'into' her scene
she is. (oddly enough, when her scenes are believable the accent
disappears. go figure...)  I predict that a directors note will have the
accent disappearing altogether within the next 2 weeks. (please!)

I think this chick is clearly out of her league.  I found myself being
embarassed for her during the  dialogue with Billy. Perhaps we should
save ourselves a little anguish right off the top and quickly find her a
nasty little nick-name she can call all her own. Also, let's remember 
that  she can only get better!!!!! (double please!!)

-Karin   
 


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From: sanidas@stsci.edu (Nicholas Sanidas,G12,1385,ADD.1-29-91)
Subject: Re: GH: ELQ stock?
Originator: sanidas@homer.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:24:20 GMT

From article <C0Jr80.6FD@cup.hp.com>, by morrell@cup.hp.com (Michael Morrell):
>     Scotty/Lucy            5 (I think Lucy has about 3.5 and Scotty 1.5)

    didn't lucy sell her stock back to edward? i remember edward making
false promises to lucy that if she sold him back the stock that he would
return the favor with another favor.

    if memory serves me right, he double crossed her. not sure if scotty
sold his or not...

nick
From: jah0532@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Julia Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Broken Hearts
Keywords: broken hearts, recovery
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:33:24 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Organization: BCS, Seattle

In article <1993Jan12.100708.6284@epas.toronto.edu> dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow) writes:
>
>I was just wondering--doesn't anyone in Pine Valley ever suffer from a
>broken love affair? I wish I was as resilient as these people! I
>know, I know IOAS, but still....Just six little weeks ago Jack had
>found the love of his life in Angelique and now, he's smooching with
>mystery woman. If it were me, I'd still be ransacking my apartment
>looking for mementoes to burn in the kitchen sink.  Well, to be fair,
>at least Hayley took her time getting over Brian, but not vice versa,
>that's for sure.
>

This has always been one of my big questions too.  I'm amazed at how
quickly they recover and equally amazed at how little time it takes
them to meet someone new.  Especially in a small town like Pine Valley.
Of course, this must be another example of PV Zen - there are as many
available, attractive single people as there needs to be.  



-- 
Julia Henry                         People do not deserve to have good writing,
jah0532@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com   they are so pleased with bad.
                                            Ralph Waldo Emerson
From: GE777009@brownvm.brown.edu (jenna cole-steele)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL:  New Mindy
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:13:07 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

I don't like the new mindy either. In fact, i don't like
the fat maureen. I remember when Ellen Dolan (now on
atwt) was Mo Reardon. I liked her.  I don't like
the new (ok, so she's not really new anymore) Blake
either.  I do like this Ed better than the last
ed, though.  However, i liked the first Alan-Michael
better than this A-M, with the Jay Leno chin.

People I miss:
Claire Ramsey
Rick Bauer
Jesse and Simon (what a great story line that was, huh?)
Nola Reardon-McCord

Jenna
From: marks@skat.usc.edu (Louise Marks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: OLTL: Billy Douglas Storyline (was: SOD Awards)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 08:04:13 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

wyatt@ccu.umanitoba.ca (David Anthony Wyatt) writes:

>I want to tread carefully here, but it has been my own personal experience that
>"religious" is just about the only widely used grounds for an "against"-type
>position these days, and (again, personal experience) individuals who espouse
>religiously-based prejudices are often the least "reason"able and the most 
>hateful.  One can debate medical, psychological, sociological, be called upon
>to support one's own position rationally, and even be lead to question the 
>opinions one holds, but "God said" is indisputable unless you question the 
>individual's sense of "God" and "God's will."  Such a questioning almost 
>invariably comes across as a personal attack and receives a similar response.
>Hate all around the table.

Well said. I don't think that anyone who uses religion to justify
intolerance is being honest with themselves. Religious teachings are
rarely embraced in pure form; they are adopted "with interpretation"
to fit the basic leanings of the individual or group.  I'm not aware
of any major religion which advocates hate, killing, theft or
destruction; yet religious beliefs have been used to justify all of
these throughout history.

>Did anyone notice what I think I noticed on the Christmas eve episode of OLTL?
>Another caroller broke away from the group of kids to introduce himself to 
>Billy, praise Billy for coming out, and indicate that he too was gay.  Did we 
>see Billy Douglas meet his future boyfriend?  This Rick Mitchell character was 
>then shown in the two subsequent carolling scenes practically staring at young 
>Mister Douglas.

I noticed for sure.  I also read that two new young actors were
recently hired, so maybe OLTL will follow through on depicting a
homosexual relationship.  It will definitely be a first!

-Louise



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From: van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: those Schoo folks (was AMC: Scott)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:51:53 GMT


Well, I don't see a summary yet of what the Schoos did, so here it goes.
They decided to on a vacation to Mexico for Christmas, but didn't want to
bring their kids.  They apparently didn't want to burden any friends or
relatives with a 9 yo and a 4 yo, so, they left written instructions, and
then, left their kids alone in the house for 9 days!  Some water splashed
into a heating vent (I think) and set off the fire alarm, and they went
running outside - that's how the story got out.  There's a book called
"The Road Less Travelled" that pretty much states that most of a person's
problems as an adult are caused by the parenting/lack of it they received
as a child...Dr. Peck (the author) would have a lot to say about the
Schoos!  (One of his theories is that fear of abandonment causes big
problems...wonder what he'd say about this kind of abandonment?!!)

I'm done with my psychology lecture now...suffice it to say that I 
don't think the 3 years in jail that the parents are being threatened
with is enough!!
Val

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From: ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblefield III)
Subject: Re: OLTL: possible Spoiler(s)
Keywords: Dorian, Cord
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:39:31 PST


>   Loprieno left the show over a year ago to pursue other projects.  
>Although his character was shot to death, the body was never found.

So what if they did?  After all, it's One Life to Live!  I'm sure 
Ivan Kipling's got a clone lab somewhere.  Or maybe he'll come back 
as Gilbert, or a dog.  :)
From: sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu (Sheila McMahon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: GL: Monday's show
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:19:39 GMT
Reply-To: sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
X-Nupop-Charset: English

If you haven't seen Monday's show yet, you might want to stop reading right
now.


That was one of the sadest shows I've ever seen. I still can't believe they
killed Maureen off. I know this newsgroup was split over how they feel about
Mo, but I want to go on record as saying that I've always liked her. Sure
she was nosey, but there are people like that in real life. Her heart was
always in the right place. Everyone on the show liked her. I can't think of
one person on the show who didn't like Mo. If they had to kill someone off
to generate some storyline, they should have killed Ed. But they wouldn't
have done that because he's the sole remaining Bauer on the show and thus
has to carry on the tradition. But even though she wasn't a Bauer by blood,
I always thought that she was the natural successor to Bert. Everyone always
talks about Ed Bauer as the pillar of the community, but to me Maureen was
the pillar of the community. I think that Ellen Parker's scenes in her last
week proved that she is a good actress. She was incredible.

Now who will people turn to for advice and a good cup of coffee. Who will
plan the Thanksgiving Dinners, the Christmas Dinners and the annual 4th of
July Bauer Barbecue??

As far as Monday's show goes, it was a real tear jerker. I even felt bad for
Alan Michael. I liked the scene in the hospital chapel when Vanessa told
Lillian not to go to Ed. For a minute there I thought she was going to start
yelling at Lillian but her sophistication won out and she didn't.

I liked the song at the end during the credits with all the still pictures
of Maureen with various characters. They showed Maureen and Vanessa's famous
drinking champagne in Vanessa's living room scene. There was the scene where
Maureen and Vanessa and Holly were squirting each other with water after
they put out the fire at the towers during the blackout. They showed
pictures of Mo with Blake, Fletcher, Ed, Roger, Bridget, and Michelle. I
don't think they showed any with Lillian.

Today's episode will probably be even more of a tear-jerker because this
will probably be the day that Michelle finds out along with the rest of
Springfield.

Oh well, Only one more Reardon left in Springfield (soon to be two).

Sheila

P.S.  Hi Lerser



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From: laviers@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Cocotte Minute)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: TAN: Thanksalot : )
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:20:03 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hi everybody!

I want to thank everyone who sent me Birthday wishes. I just
love our AMC family :) !

See ya,
Genevieve
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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: AMC: Re: Applauding Updaters: was: AMC UPDATE - Monday, December 28
Keywords: update
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:51:27 GMT

In article <1hqlmjINNsb0@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison) writes:
>UPDATE for MONDAY, DECEMBER 28, 1992
>{ my cynical (or insightful) comments are in brackets }
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
i always like this part! :-)

Mary you too do awesome updates! In fact YALL do awesome updates!
I want to give a special round of applause to All Our Updaters for 93!

Mary Allison, Donna Wicks, Dave Vollman, Susan Margulies, Lance Sanders,
Alex Bost and Jeep (John) Meranda!  You guys are fantastic!
Sus. also filled in and did a great job too!

(if i left anyone out i'll be really embarrased, so go easy on me
and forgive me! i didn't mean to.)..

Carolyn "feeling appreciative and hoping i didn't leave someone out"
Zaccaria
From: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com (kemmerling,gayle c)
Subject: Re: LOVING:  Monday Updater
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 16:24:54 GMT

In article <5JAN199315273445@xenon.arc.nasa.gov>, holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (LAURA HOLST) writes:
> >read).  What happened to Ceara? 
> 
> Ceara's ding dong daid!!!  Bled to death in Jeremy's arms!
> We saw a (dead) body, too ;)
> >I sure liked the old Clay better.
> Do you mean Larkin Malloy Clay?  Seems *he* got fired :)
> Maybe he'll return as Travis on AMC.
> >And...I would like Stacy with Jeremy.
> Me, too, not that bimbo DL who tries to suck up everyone else's
> man!
> >Thanks,
> >gayle
> --Laura Holst
> E-mail:  holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov  Decnet:  XEN::HOLST
> S-Mail:  NASA/Ames Research Center  MS 219-1
>              Moffett Field, CA  94035-1000
> P-Mail:        (415) 604-6588

Why did she bleed to death? What got her?
Yes - Larken Malloy Clay.

gayle
From: pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Update for Monday, Jan 4
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:54:32 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <1993Jan5.195824.3106@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas) writes:
>
>Happy Birthday to YOUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

Thank you, John.  Guess you can be glad we're done with Sagg and
onto Capricorn.

>I think Gina has been looking great lately. Everybody was on vacation
>last week and there weren't too many posts. I thought she was very
>funny with the chef that she hired for Lilly's wedding. I loved
>it when the chef told Gina to shove the wedding where the sun doesn't
>shine. (Trivia Question)

Amen.  Gina's had wonderful clothes lately, especially the mother of
the bride dress.  And she has had some good scenes.  Funny with the
chef, I found myself agreeing with her.  You ask a big-shot chef
for seafood and he hands you red snapper, yeah, I'd be annoyed.

>I also thought Samantha was cute. She really looked upset hiding in
>back of her father when Gina was chasing her for ruining Lilly's dress.

I was wondering how they got her to look so guilty.  I always worry
that a child that age might misinterpret an actress threatening to
kill her, that the kid might grow up warped.  Worked very well.

>I can't believe that Lilly married Ted. I was still hoping that Ted and
>Angela would get back together. January 15 is only next week and I think
>Angela will remain a wall flower. It's obvious that CC and Sophia will
>get back together. Angela must know by now that there is a place for her
>in Central NJ.

Yes, John, all people can't be paired off when their true love
doesn't live in town.  Be happy Angela's a free woman for you.

>I loved when Kelly took the butcher' knife out and threated to kill Ken.
>I would have used that knife to make an eunuch out of him. He doesn't
>give up, he persists on inventing new stories and telling more lies.

I forgot about that.  It was a good scene, wasn't it?

>Vivian, I hope you got over your flu and feel good to make the trip to
>Pittsburgh. I talked to Curt this morning and he told me that he packed
>his purple polo shirt. :-) 
>
>John


Yes, Vivian, the group's been awfully quiet without you.  Hope you
feel better.

Well, off to find a photo of me to send Linda ASAP.

Pat
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	Patricia Boren
	pboren@rand.org
From: patricia@pete.uucp (Patricia Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Ceara Connor Hunter
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:04:31 GMT
Reply-To: patricia%pete%nicmad%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: My system in Madison WI

daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs) writes:

> 
> As others have answered, there was a body, but this brings up another 
> question.  My BH keeps wondering if Phillip is going to show up some
> time.  As she remembers it, he disappeared on a CIA mission (or some
> such) but no body was returned.  I wasn't watching during that period
> ... how do you all remember it?


If Phillip Brent comes back, will his son Charlie be older or the same
age as he is?  Charlie looks about the same age as Erica, and Erica and
Phil are the same age. Mmmmmmmm

Patricia> 

Patricia Peterson   (608)273-4573
Inet: patricia%pete%nicmad%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
From: clt@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Christy L. Thierstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Where does "Ted" sleep?
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:21:32 GMT
Organization: Chevron Petroleum Technology Company, La Habra, CA.

>Nope, I don't think Tad ever lived at Myrtle's.
>I think she lives next door to the Martins anyway.
>Anglie used to live next door (on the other side too).
>
I agree that Angie lived next door to the Martin's, but 
didn't Ellen Shepard, Devon, and Ellen's father live on 
the other side of the Martin's?  Also, I seem to remember
that Myrtle's house was originally owned by Erica when 
she was married to Phil Brent.

Anyway, Happy New Year everyone!

-- 
 Christy Thierstein
 clt@chevron.com