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From: z_beddoerj@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: LiveAction Guyver
Date: 29 Dec 92 09:18:16 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <72520@cup.portal.com>, DrAllosaurus@cup.portal.com (Samuel DrAllosaurs Crider) writes:
> Just watched the live action version of THE GUYVER...
> 
> Gee, maybe these dubbed anime aren't so bad afterall...
> Isn't Jimmy Walker a violation of some sort of Federal law?
> 
> Dr. A

UGH.  I agree.  They must have blown their whole wad on the "Guyver comes
out and attaches itself" scene, and that was it.  Because the rest of the 
stuff was major cheese.  If you think that Macek's Nadia is bad, give this
a look-see and you'll be begging for the class and style of Bronx-voiced 
Akira, and that wonderous dubbing job done on Macross II.  No joke.

Lucasfilms *must* get off their collective asses and make more Star Wars
movies.....Mark Hamill is in dire need of real work.  He's much, much more
talented than this....

*gag*  Someone stop the spread of the live-action Guyver before more are made
sick!

(yes, its really that bad!)
(and not even any gratuitous nudity, either.  *sigh*)


Ja ne,
"Crusher" Joe.

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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Ayukawa or Madoka? (**some spoilers**)?
Date: 31 Dec 92 04:16:20 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


   I maintain that the B&W scenes in the KOR movie may have a larger
meaning than to simply indicate a change in the time frame.  *I* got
the impression that the color represented their lives as kids, whereas
in the B&W scenes they were adults, having realized that life doesn't
always come with happy endings.  Madoka and Kyosuke are slightly more
cynical at film's end, not as naive as before.  Sigh.
 
  -RJ

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From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: Re: Streamline's Castle Cagliostro!  Just saw it..
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 20:19:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.194255.18546@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:
>
>Lupin's voice a perfect match? You've got to be kidding... Or at least 
>you haven't had enough exposure to the original actor.  The fact he (english
>actor) didn't even understand the range of the original character actor 
>(probably didn't even bother watching it) doing Lupin didn't
>help things any.

	Okay, I admit that I've only seen the "Plot of the Fuma Clan" so
far, but maybe its because I've had to experience such horrendous dubbing
in the past few months that it seemed so good.
	I still say that he was a 'good' match (okay, not perfect I grant
you).. 

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From: Ron.Langbecker@f616.n133.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ron Langbecker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: New ideas.......
Date: 24 Dec 92 22:24:20 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:133/616 - Darkstar, Marietta GA

A few things to tell ya, 
First, Covenant says that if your alignment goes below -32000 then it rolls back to 0, not +32000.  So I do not think it wise to waste fighters on aliens anymore.
Second, I have a plan for take ovewr that I want to start right away, as soon as you tell me what you think.
        I attacked their 5000 fighters in 561 with 6000 and lost 4850 ftrs.
        I don/t know what odds that means, but I like it.
Now, If I were to fly into 238, then 5 cannons would blast me! 25000 ftrs, would attack me! and I'ld be a goner.  But If I flew into 238 with
20,000 fighters, then the cannons would probubly destroy about 10k of 'em.
(Last time I flew into 238, each cannon did 1666 pts. to me.)  I would still have about 10,000 fighters.  I could attack their 25k fighters. And maybe kill  10k of them.  I would lose.  The first time.
        But the next time I flew in (a few days later) with 20k fighters, the cannons may do the same or less damage. And I would desroy another 10k of their fighters.  I still would lose, but eventually, Their cannons would stop doing damage and their fighters would start running out.  
        We can each make at least 600k ( new est. for me, but thats how much I can make about.) That buys around 3000 fighters each.  6k fighters a day.
In a week we would have around 40k fighters. Each week!!!
        At most they can make less then half that!
        W eneed to begin mobilization, and start buying at least 2k ftrs a day!

Tell me what you think!  I know that it has its grim side.
60k fighters just to breech 238, but in a week and a half we could be in!
Unless you are unconvinced about the +32000 align rule then please stop killing aleins.

        Baron Taltos!
        Ron




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From: chadwick@world.std.com (Chadwick Ngan)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION ALL LODOSS FANS
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:21:21 GMT

In article <1h6onfINNpbf@agate.berkeley.edu> ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou) writes:

>Actually, all these machines - headcrash, tornado, monsoon, avalanche, 
>planecrash, etc, etc - are equivalent in terms of accessibility to 
>pub/AnimeB/.  You can simply 'finger @ocf.berkeley.edu' to get the names
>of all the ocf disasters.  Usually ocf/typhoon/gate is so overworked it's
>not a good idea to further tapping it's cpu usage by running ftp on it,
>but if all else fails (the disasters may occur independently or simulta-
>neously) try it as your last resort.  Otherwise, on rare and happy occasions
>when ocf's ftp actually works, just choose your favorite disaster and 
>stick with it.

	I know ocf is a overworked machine.  Which is why I tried headcrash
then tornado, then lightning then ....
	The problem is, NONE of the machines save ocf allows guest ftp logins.
I have no choice but to use ocf if I want to access the Berkeley site.  Kinda
deadlock situation, isn't it?


					Chadwick
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From: rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken)
Subject: Cancellation?! (was Re: Dirty Tricks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 25 Dec 92 01:07:04 GMT


Having heard this weird cancellation of the reservations for AA, I did
a little more researching myself..

I called the Westin, who confirmed a cancellation of reservation of
AnimeAmerica. I asked who authorized it, and they said that the person to
contact is (under initials J.M.)...and gave me a phone number where to reach.

I contacted the phone number to reach not J.M., but a popular bookstore
and item shop, that J.M frequently goes to. However, they did say that I
probably got this number from the Westin because it was the HQ of another
con that is in the Westin..

I got all this information just by calling in as a concerned person.
It seems that the person who was to manage this could not be contacted
via the phone number given, but rather the head of another con was contacted.

Could it be that the Westin confused AA with another con, contacted the wrong
people, and a) the Westin cancelled in the confusion  or b) an unknowing
third-party who was believed authorized cancelled c) an unsavory combination
of both?

In either case, it seems some big faux pas in communication occured, not some
elaborate dirty trick.

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From: maxcon@server.uwindsor.ca (Christopher Leung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ANIMEIGO: NEW YEAR'S LICENSING ANNOUNCEMENT
Keywords: animeigo ad police gal force license
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:07:16 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

In article <1993Jan1.140539.23193@foretune.co.jp> trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead) writes:

>		AnimEigo announces licensing of "AD POLICE Files"
>			and "Ten Little Gal Force"

That's great!  Finally, AD Police and Ten Little Gal Force!  I've been waiting
for AD Police for a long time!  Good move.

Question #1:  Are the music videos that were contained in the AD Police going to
be included?

Question #2:  Is there a possible LD release for these?

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From: liebgold@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Dan M. Liebgold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Gundam, Ranma,City HUnter, Dirty Pair
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:42:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles


Where have all you english-only speakers seen these? I have'nt found
subbed or dubbed versions anywhere (though I haven't searched extensively).

Gundam: Char's Counterattack looks interesting, but I'd like to watch it with
more than a synopsis...

dl
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Mecha in 'Beyond the Mind's Eye'
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:22:03 GMT

In article <1898@tnc.UUCP>, m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins) writes:
> 
>    Patlabor appears in 'Beyond the Mind's Eye', the computer graphics
> compilation that proved extremely popular over the holiday season. 

Is that the sequence with all the Ingram parts and bits floating into
place?  Snippets of that were on an Alias(*) demo tape my Computer
Graphics professor showed the class this summer...

(*) Alias specializes in high-end graphics workstations, and are a direct
    competitor to Silicon Graphics.  The "morphing" thing in TERMINTATOR
    2 was done by them.
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From: tsait@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Theodore Leonard Tsai)
Subject: Re: Ranma...
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 02:52:55 GMT

In article <9301010319.aa19818@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> dlo@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>Hmmm...seems my original post just zipped by everyone(or is it that no one wantsto read my posts??), but anyway, my question is that was Ranma ever released
>in the US on VHS and LD(the first two episodes).  I say an old add in the
>april-may 1992 protoculture addicts about Ranma episodes on sale.  Was this
>ever true?
>
>Dick

Heh, looks like everyone figured someone else would answer this (or were away 
from their terminals on X-Mas break).  Anyway...
No Ranma anime has ever been officially released in the US.  That tidbit in
PA referred to a Japanese LD and VHS release.  Though if we all cross 
our fingers and pay homage to the anime gods, someone will pick up the
rights and sub at least the movie and whatever other movie release there was
(hint, hint, Woodhead-san).

tsait@rpi.edu
From: has2lab@cabell.vcu.edu (Leon A. Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: test
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:39:48 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
 92 5:39 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

>
> testing
>
> [] Charles Durand [] +1 415 969 1634
> Internet: bbs.maddox@tsoft.net
>

When was it that people actually sent messages as tests rather than these
stupid, little, peabrained, bandwidth wasters?
From: MAXSTERLING@delphi.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Image CD's from Nikaku
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:06:48 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
X-Vms-To: INTERNET::"ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU"
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

An "Image" CD contains music that was not in the original anime, but was
"inspired" by the anime.  The songs on an image cd are compatible with the
anime as far as mood and style.

Scott Baker
maxsterling@delphi.com
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From: Citizen Lemming <ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu>
Subject: Re: Re update post for AA'93
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:54:14 GMT

>>>>> On 31 Dec 92 01:04:55 GMT, MAXSTERLING@delphi.com said:

>>- AnAm has received permission to air U.S.M.C., U.S. Renditions and
>>Streamline subbed and dubbed animation on the closed circuit system
>>(AnAmTV).  AnimEigo permissions are pending licensor review.<<

MAX> Am I missing something?

I don't think so...

MAX> Does that mean people can just plug their VCR's into the system and
MAX> tape all these animes?

Yup. Assuming you can get your VCR hooked into the hotel's CCTV system (not
usually difficult with a screwdriver and needle-nose pliers).

MAX> Why would *any* licensor agree to that?  Why would U.S.M.C., U.S.
MAX> Renditions, et.al.  agree to that?  Sounds fishy to me.

First, it's "free advertising" to those who don't set up VCRs to tape the
stuff. Second, it's "free advertising" and "bait" for those who do, to buy
the titles they don't record.

Put it this way. The Con's going to have around 1500 attendees, give or
take a few hundred. Of these, maybe 10% (tops!) will actually be recording
the CC programs. This "costs" the subbers/dubbers... 150 people times $30
per tape... $4,500, which they chaulk up as advertising. Of the remaining
attendees, let's say that 35% (a conservative estimate) will buy at least
one tape from any one particular company. At $30 per tape that comes out
to... 525 people times 30... $15,750. The gross profit comes out to
$11,250. Not bad, is it. They're not losing anything.

A significant majority of the attendees will be seriously dedicated anime
fans with bucks to spend. That means they're willing to buy the highest
quality tapes they can.

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Subject: Re: ATTENTION ALL LODOSS FANS
From: raa@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Ramon Lopez)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:27:02 GMT
Organization: Wonder Server - Public Access for SoCal

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From: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Streamline's Castle Cagliostro!  Just saw it..
Date: 29 Dec 1992 18:59:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha) says:

>	Of the 7 other films, which would you say are the best?  I saw that
>Nikaku now has quite a few of the Lupin movies/oav LD's in their December
>catalog..  too bad I'm poorer than hell.


Well, Cagliostro Castle is the best.  You should also see "Hemingway Papers"
and "Lupin vs the clones aka Lupin:Mystery of Mamo".


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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Question about cells
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:08:32 GMT

In article <1hvfufINNka4@uwm.edu>, xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet) writes:
> 
> HI all,
> 	I recently aquired a couple of very nice cels and had a few
> questions about them.  First of which is: how exactly are cels used in
> the animation process?  What I mean is once they have the cel done,
> how do they use it to get it on film?

You take a photo of it, put another cel, advance the camera, take another
photo, etc.

> Am I to assume that once you buy a cel it is yours?  By this I
> mean since it is original artwork and you are buying it is it legal to
> make posters from it and sell them?

No.  The physical cel is yours, but the characters are not.  Buying a
Madoka poster doesn't entitle you to sell ORANGE ROAD artwork.
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From: trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead)
Subject: ANIMEIGO: News regarding BGC LD #1
Summary: We have a fix
Keywords: animeigo bgc ld
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 04:20:45 GMT


As many of you may know, the soundtrack of our first Bubblegum
Crisis Laserdisc was mastered without noise-reduction processing.
The result is a low-level hissing sound that may be noticable
on some equipment.

The LD is being remastered, and a new pressing of the LD is being
made.  The new discs will be available mid-January.

All current orders are being held, pending the arrival of the
new discs.

The disc manufacturer has graciously provided us with a limited
number of replacement discs.  If you have one of the original
BGC LD #1's, and you find the sound quality to be unacceptable
to you, you may apply for a free replacement in the following
manner:

1) Call, write, or Email (72447.37@compuserve.com) our U.S. Office
   and tell them you want to return your disc.

   You will be given a return authorization number.

2) Mail your disc and sleeve back to AnimEigo.  As we will not
   have the replacement discs for about 3 weeks, do not mail
   your disc before January 15th.

   Please remember to mention your return authorization number.

On behalf of everyone at AnimEigo, we would like to apologise for
this unfortunate mistake.  Steps have already been taken to
ensure that the chain of events that lead to the improper LD
mastering cannot occur again.

Sincerely,
Robert J Woodhead
President


Technical Note: The audio on LD #1 is still Dolby A processed;
therefore, if your stereo system has the ability to Dolby decode
an incoming audio signal, you may be able to noise-reduce the
disc when you play it.

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From: maxcon@server.uwindsor.ca (Christopher Leung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime UK #5 (may contain spoilers)
Date: 1 Jan 1993 01:12:12 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

In article <1992Dec30.180539.12872@hsr.no> geirj@hsr.no (Geir Friestad) writes:

[Stuff about Anime UK #5 deleted, at least some of it]

>UROTSUKIDOJI
>   Review of the Manga Video (IWC) release. It's reviewed by the magazine's
>   editor, Helen McCarthy, and it's very, very good (much better than the
>   review I posted on the net). It's also the first anime to be stomped on by
>   Anime UK (the anime itself receives a good review. The script and dubbing
>   on the other hand......)

You mean an anime magazine actually had the guts to slam on a anime release? 
Oh boy!  This I got to see.  I hope it's as good as the anti-Carl stuff around
here!

>ANIMAIL
>   The readers' letters of course. Skip this page folks, pleeeeeeeaaaaseee! :)

Skip this?  Nah!  I wouldn't skip it.  I would read it! :)  BTW: Is this
because one of your letters made it to the page? B-)

>And....that's all! Oh, and did I mention Wil Overton has as usual delivered a
>truly magnificent cover (Nadia)?  And there's also a free giveaway with this
>issue.

Free?  Did you say FREE?  Hmmm.... what is it?  Give us a hint! :)

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