HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: samant@tartarus.uchicago.edu (Tushar Samant)
Subject: Re: SAVE ME FROM MAC's BLAZING FLAMES!!
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:54:45 GMT


Bur is getting better than ever!

bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov (MAC) writes:
>
>What a clueless sack-o-shit you are.  Like a fool, you join in on
>a spelling flame with a spelling error.  How do you fucking do it, Tushar?

That's impressive.

Bur, my dear boy, there is a difference between a trivial spelling mistake
and a major league one, between my throwaway typo and your copious works of
genius. I am past wondering about what processes go on in your approximation
of a brain when you come up with your amazing all-round illiteracies, but
even I am awestruck that you have now reached the level of practice-what-
you-preach arguments. GO MAC!


>I think a.f deserves an explanation as to why you went to great lengths
>to find posts of mine(although you changed some of the text) from several
>different news groups and took the time to post them to a.f.  I mean really,
>is life that bad?

All in a microsecond's work, boy, and only for your sake. I am moved to tears
by your concern about my life, but think no more of it. Being scared shitless
by that little bouquet is not the reaction I wanted to elicit from you - you 
ought to feel honoured, actually.


>Look, I know that job at 7-11 is getting old, but stick it out.  Hey, take
>a look at you friends.  Minimum wage doesn't seem so bad, does it?  

I have given credit to you for imaginativeness when it was due. It's
excessive to ask for that again.


>If you decide against this option, be sure and stay away from Jim Benzeleski.
>Rumor has it that he has a "thing" for small boys with brown skin.

Then my earnest advice to you is: don't even consider getting a tan on your
alabaster complexion.

 
>Ta-ta for now,

Aagh. What have I done to deserve THIS, bur? Use the word "sack-o-shit",
even bring up the breathtaking 7-11 theme an unlimited number of times,
but DON'T subject me to this monstrosity! I implore you!


Sincerely,
From: liz@starbird.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Guess who's back...
Date: 24 Nov 1992 00:23:41 GMT
Organization: WPI - so much stress we're giving it away!
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: starbird.wpi.edu


Let's all wave to her...HI LARA!!!  

Glad you are back...

ObFlame:  Now I know why I've always hated the name 'Rachel'...
Warlord this, bitch...


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Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: samant@tartarus.uchicago.edu (Tushar Samant)
Subject: Re: PORTRAIT OF A NET NEWBIE IDIOT: Mac Bur
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:49:08 GMT

jmb14@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
>bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov (MAC) writes:
>> samant@tartarus.uchicago.edu (Tushar "Semen" Samant) writes:
>>>[drivel deleted] 
>> A tad sub-par for a snot-nosed freshmen.  I think the towel on your head is
>> comming loose.  Do go back and do you homework before you try again.
>  ^^^^^^^                           ^^^
>*Wow, Tushar, you've got him so incoherent that he's making spelling errors.
> Maybe Mac should go do more of his spelling homework, the snot nosed third
> grader.  You should've had mommy proofread before you posted, Mac.


Wrong, friend. Much as I would like the credit for reducing bur to a
blithering idiot, I must repectfully decline it. For one, this kind of
spelling error is bur's standard practice. So is the creative grammar 
apparent in "a snot-nosed freshmen".

Secondly, to reduce bur's IQ is not easy. Few people realize this.

As to whether bur should do spelling homework, yes he should, but only 
when the time is ripe. We don't want to overload those neurons, all six 
of them are being used to remember how to telnet to nyx.

Sincerely,
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: weverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (William M. Everett)
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:27:17 GMT

In article <1449@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes:

>ONCE AGAIN pose the the questions the Limbots have been dodging:
	Actually, I've never heard Rush. All the right people seem to hate
him though . . .

>
>1) If George Bush was not suggesting that atheists are in some way
>inferior U.S. citizens, and perhaps should not be considered
>citizens at all, then WHAT WAS he saying?  What sort of code was he
>using?
>
>2) If GHWB actually was saying, in the aforementioned material,
>what any clear-headed speaker of the English language would infer

	All right, issue one- did George Bush say that atheists should not
be U.S. citizens- the answer is no- What George Bush did say is that he is
not sure- for those deficient in the Logic area, A statement that X is true
is not the same as a statement that it is unknown if X is true. One is a
statement of certainty the other is a statement of uncertainty, for those 
with a brain, they are very different.
	Issue two- does GB have a poor understanding of the constitution, etc.
This is slightly more complicated and for the time being I will leave it open.

>
>Please either answer these questions or shutup and stop annoying
>people with your young-republican inanities.

	Is truth a young-republican inanity? If so, you'll just have to deal
with being annoyed.

>
>Bill
	With a name like that, you should know better.

	*********************************************************
	*  William Everett		Tan, Rested, and ready  *
	*  Harvey Mudd College		     NIXON in '96       *
	*                                                       *   
	*  These opinions are mine- you can't have them         *   
	*********************************************************
From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: STEVE FLAMMAGE
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:03:11 GMT
 <BxH1sB.7r0@cs.dal.ca> <LAUNCE.92Nov11182134@medusa.med.utah.edu>
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <LAUNCE.92Nov11182134@medusa.med.utah.edu>, Tri-Ungulate writes:

<Steve the net.idiot 1992 writes>
> >  My verbiage exudes eloquence, but sparing exceptional occurences, I rarely
> >  have a single iota of intellectual meaning to contribute to the group.
> >  I enjoy my attempts to conquer your credibility through "flaming", but I
> >  am actually pursuing a scholastic career where English is my 3rd language.
> >  I have an undying and endless love for my thesaurus.
> >	  (You know who you are)
> 
> Golly Steve, could you possibly be referring to...  perhaps... ? 
> 
> Nah, couldn't be me -- I don't use a thesaurus.  It's not worth the
> trouble & effort to look things up to shoot down small fry like Troll
> or yourself. It *is* fun to watch you towheads squirm when confronted
> by something you don't quite "get." The DennisHallChaneyObject was
> priceless.  Anyway English happens to be my first language.

Isn't it astounding that the wannabe flamers get all shirty when
the are bludgeoned with perfectly valid polysyllabic constructs.
Yet they joyously abuse the one or two multisyllable words that
they are comfortable with, over and over again, trying to
indicated to their tired and wretched friends that they are
witty, clever, and erudite ['erudite', a perfect example of one
of those words that is just too hard for the protoflamer's
clue-buckets to contain.  Imagine their consternation when hit by
such priceless terms as 'elan', 'panache', 'verisimilitude' or
even the rather plain 'ontological'.]

If it wasn't for the existence of the vernacular, a full 80% of
the flamers in this newsgroup would be reduced to spouting
'what?' fifteen million times, in order to get their pathetic
little point across; said point being 'I'm stupid, help me!'.

Steve is, as Tri-Ungulate correctly points out, a waste of space
and bandwidth.

Time to invoke cosmic censorship against the dweeb component of
the net. 

Erudition forever.

Dac
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From: libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:54:17 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
: > libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) ("Billy 'da Skid") writes:
: > The Phascist Phantom is making gratuitous and offensive "fag"
: > references.  Best to ignore him; he's a silly little ghost, and
: > will probably go away if he doesn't get the attention he so
:                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
: > desparately craves.
: 
: Ah. I see. Is this why you followup on the same post four times in a row Mr.
: Skid? 
: 
: --The Phantom


Scathing, Casper, scathing.  Your rapier wit asounds me.  Have a
cookie.

Bill
From: kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Mr K Walsh, a word in your ear (Was: Shut the fuck up)
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:50:01 GMT
Organization: Cursor Software Limited, London, England

In article <1992Nov17.111301@cs.man.ac.uk> dlester@cs.man.ac.uk (David Lester) writes:
> Dear Mr Walsh,
> 
> I trust you will find the following article (from the archives) amusing,
> rather than prophetic.
> 
> Yours didactically,
> 
> ---
> David Lester, Manchester University, UK.
> 
> 
>  [ oops, I just deleted the drivel ]
>
>
Oh yeah?  but the Yanks sue each other about anything, don't they?

Did you hear the one about the American woman who sucessfully sued a microwave
manufacturer because the instructions didn't warn her about the dangers of
attempting to dry her pet dog after it had been out in the rain?  Apparently,
she always used to do this in the gas oven and in never blew up before.  Some
dumb shit-for-brains Yankie Judge awarded her $3 million.  He is probably on
a commision or somthing.

Scubadiving Christ in a swimsuit, that's way they stick "do not eat" on the
Silica Gel packets - in case some numb-nuts American bastard thinks he can
make some easy money by munching a few packets and sueing the pepole who sold
him his TV.

A word of advice to any Americans out there.  Stuff 17 washing machines up your
arse.  When you DIE horribly like the geek you are, you can rest in piece
knowing that your family can sue the manufacturers for not writing "Do not stuff
17 washing machines up your fucking arse" in the manual.

I am having great fun reading all your crap so I you don't like it you can
stick it up your bum.  Anyone who gets offended can unsubscribe and if you
don't know how to do that then you're a mother-fucker.

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From: liz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: K e n Informs Mr. Cress (was Re: Worthless)
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:17:56 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <By4LAE.6ro@cs.psu.edu> krobinso@orange.crayola.cs.psu.edu 
(Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>
>The more appendages that are applied to the keyboard,
>the more characters that can be typed.
>

Does this mean that K e n uses his penis as well as his hands when he types?

						--liz

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my ego ate my .sig[deleted]
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Melba SEZ 'Sez'
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:27:35 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov16.182602.3545@uni.edu>,
mglads@catbox.cc.uni.edu (Melvin Gladstone) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.005055.1@opie.bgsu.edu>, bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
>>Melba SEZ
>>>Get a grip.
>>
>>   Oooow.  Vicious retaliation.
>
>I knew I was dealing with a puny intellect, but I thought you could
>at least think of your own replies.
>
>>   One more time, motherfucker:
>>   ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>   |spending too much time in soc.culture.african-american.  Maybe you should|
>>   |have been spending your time in alts.destroy.the.earth, satanism, magick,|
>>   |and evil.  Then you might be calling me Hum, or Joshua, or...            |
>>   |_________________________________________________________________________|
>
>Why would I call you Hum when your name is Chris.
>
>>   Now, I suggest that you start attempting to gather information
>
>Shit!  Dobson is right, K e n is spreading.
>
>>   [a lot of repetition]
>
>>--Leah
>
>You have become tiresome.
>
>Melvin M. Gladstone
MELVIN, my little snugglebunny, who's been keeping you warm in my
absence?  i KNOW where rob's dog's been ... !!

*nibbles*
moi
>>---|>
From: perry@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Perry Staltari)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Domestos
Date: 18 Nov 1992 04:37:14 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

	Phil put domestos on his dick and he pisses out fire. But at
least it's clean....

	He is the same one that got Kea pregnant. He's trying to clean
up his act....

	Personally I use Pine-o-clean....


--
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Perry Staltari		                       | We are but figments of our     
perry@tartarus.uwa.edu.au      | own imagination!!??! 
University of Western Australia| "I am not a crook!!"
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 10:49:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes:
> kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh) writes:
                  ^^
> :   _/_/_/   _/_/      _/    _/    _/    _/_/  _/     K e v i n  W a l s h
> :  _/ _/    _/          _/ _/     _/    _/  _/_/      kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk
                                                                        ^^
> Oh, Christ- this wallabee-fucking strine geek is fixated on me now.
> Somebody wanna divert him for me, maybe wave a kangaroo dick at him
> or something?  I'll sneak up behind him and untie his shoes, so's
> he falls off the bottom of the planet...

Thanks for that astute comment, Big Chief I-Spy.


mathew
-- 
"Boy, they were big on crematoriums weren't they?"
 -- George Bush, during a tour of Auschwitz, 1987-09-28
From: tilden@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Tilden-Master of Illogic)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Beckett's Lost Work
Date: 16 Nov 1992 13:09:18 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: venture.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: Samuel Beckett, K e n, parody


In article <Bxo44I.CsE@cs.psu.edu>, krobinso@orange.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>K e n is amused. You are indeed exceptional in the art of humor.
>Thank you for giving K e n a reason for rolling around the floor
>in laughter.
>
>K e n   R o b i n s o n

Perhapse you should look at yourself in a mirror, for this would be a true joke
in the opinion of those who have found your ramblings to be a useless form of
moronic dribble posted by new-comers to this net as a form of recognition, which
is all you are truely after.

Tilden has spoken
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: bondc@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Clay M. Bond)
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:39:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.032129.1@acad.drake.edu> vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:

>I suspect you swallow quite well

Explain this remark.

-- 
"There is no gate, no lock, no bolt that you can set upon
 the freedom of my mind."
			   -- Virginia Woolf
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: bufalini@cattycorner.gis.psu.edu (Bruce A Bufalini)
Subject: Re: K e n Is Not Boring (was Re: Aza.  Is She, or Isn't He?)
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:26:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.215335.27051@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>hey bufalini. how cuome yer always defending k e n? (sorry, i didnt bother 
>to repost the whole long article with bufalini's pointless one line k e n
>imitations sprinkled among page after page of quoted text)

I am just pointing out the truth, which Tilden was unable to accomplish.

>do you do this so ken will continue to let your give him rim jobs?

No, I did it to correct Tilden.

>are you more like a parrot, or just a mirror? what kind of an asshole
>are you, anyway?

I am neither a parrot nor a mirror nor an asshole.  Guess again.

-- 
Bruce A Bufalini <bufalini@.gis.psu.edu>
"Blame is better to give than receive."  --  Neil Peart, 1980
"Take it easy -- or any way you can." -- Brian "Launch Pad" Mansberry,
                                                         among others
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Subject: Re: Once again, a non-American tries to tell US what OUR constitution says. what an asshole.
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:44:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.154322.16266@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
> <***Contrast this to the Thoecracy of Britain, where the Anglican
> Church is the official religion> or prohibiting the free excerise

It is quite possible to have an established church without it being a
theocracy.  One can have an established army without living in a
military dictatorship.

One cannot, it would appear, be an American leader without wittering on
about God and Family.

ian
From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Lionel, Kalki, and Bales . . . take note
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:06:40 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)

In article <1992Nov17.192000.20264@csus.edu>, vcsc458@sfsuvax1 (Roy J.) writes:
>>>  My point is that the behavior of the bacteria was not only
>>>unpradicted by me, but I didn't even expect it to approach what was
   ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>happening: they exceeded the expectations their programming was made
>>>for, even beyond what I intended.  So there was no inteligent force
>>>driving behind them.                               ----------

>>And its spelling was a bit unpradictable also. 
                             ----^--------
>But, then, so is yours!

Gotcha!
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.flame,rec.humor
From: duzan@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Steve Duzan)
Subject: Re: Response To CRWILSON
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:43:01 GMT

stoeen@Lise.Unit.NO (Asbj|rn St|en) writes:
: *WARNING* Don't read this! This is an electronic mail bomb!
: 
: This is a personal letter intended for the person stated in the
: 'Subject' line, a cul-de-sac in mankind's development.
: 
: Message:
: 
: If you read this sentence to the end, your monitor will blow up
: in your face, leaving only an unrecognizable, bloody mass!
: 
: -- 
: A/S (stoeen@lise.unit.no)
: .sig damaged during travel

Hey, this didn't blow up in my f*fpsufpaosijh[aojm/
AAHHHHHH!!!!
From: kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Once again, a non-American tries to tell US what OUR constitution says. what an asshole.
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:22:06 GMT
Organization: Cursor Software Limited, London, England

In article <By68u6.C01@fulcrum.co.uk> igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten) writes:
> In article <1992Nov20.154322.16266@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
> > <***Contrast this to the Thoecracy of Britain, where the Anglican
> > Church is the official religion> or prohibiting the free excerise
> 
> It is quite possible to have an established church without it being a
> theocracy.  One can have an established army without living in a
> military dictatorship.
> 
> One cannot, it would appear, be an American leader without wittering on
> about God and Family.
> 
Too right Ian, but you did forget to tell him to SHUT THE FUCK UP now
didn't you?  Slap on the wrist, I think.

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From: tilden@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Tilden-Master of Illogic)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: K e n Is Not Boring (was Re: Aza.  Is She, or Isn't He?)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 09:52:36 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: venture.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <1992Nov16.212937.11848@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, bbufalin@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bruce A Bufalini) writes:
>In article <1e8r85INN1oi@venture.ksu.ksu.edu> tilden@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Tilden-Master of Illogic) writes:
>>In article <Bxo1vF.ArK@cs.psu.edu>, krobinso@orange.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>>>
>>>>>K e n is not a fool.
>>>>
>>>>Would you care to wager on that, moron?
>>>
>>>K e n does not gamble. Gambling is illegal.
>>>
>>Thus resting the point I made above. Only one who knows they can not win would respond as such,
>>which also proves you are a fraud.  Don't respond to this by saying something like:
>>
>>    K e n is not a fraud, for K e n is K e n and cannot lie.
>
>Why shouldn't he say that?  After all, it is the truth.
To you, not to me. To me and others I have met, he is as bad as you are now
becoming
>
>>It would only prove me correct in my theory.  As to the point of my intelligence, you know nothing
>>of how intelligent I am nor are you able to know.
>
>You have no intelligence, as evidenced by all of the drivel you post.

I don't post drivel. I post my opinion, which is my right. I respect the fact
that you are voicing yours, but I can not respect for whom you side with in
this post. Ken is posting the "drivel" in my opinion. I find your worship
of Ken to be a waste of your valuable time. So if you don't want to listen to
my opinion, then use your right and don't read my posts, which is wasting my
valuable time.

>
>>>>>>I await your answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>Your answer has been given.
>>>>
>>>>I think not.  Try again moron.
>>>
>>>No need to, for K e n is correct.
>>
>>That is not correct. K e n is incorrect. 
>
>K e n was (and always is) correct.  You are incorrect.

Are you sure of this?  Would you care to have a contest on this?
>
>>>>PS   If you should want a clue as toward the answer to my riddle, e-mail me.
>>>>     You have my address.
>>>
>>>K e n does not require clues, for K e n is correct. You sir, are in dire
>>>need of clues.
>>>
>>K e n does require clues, for K e n was unable to answer.
>
>Since K e n was correct, K e n does not require clues.

Ken wasn't correct, he didn't give the correct answer to my riddle.

Tilden has spoken.