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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:51:52 -0600
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From:         viking@IASTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Server recommendations

        NOTE: this is supposed to be personal mail.  If it gets
posted to the list, my apologies.  In this event I suggest a
firm look at the mail list software be given to mitigate these
unfortunate incidents.

        I suggest a call to Gateway 2000.  50MHz DX2 486 with
16M RAM, 1.2G SCSI drive, twin floppies, VGA, etc...  Total
cost was around $4000; and that included DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1,
and a few other productivity-type software apps installed.

        It's made a great 3.11 server, and an outstanding
workstation.  For the price, I'm happy as can be.

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
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From:         BAJOMOA@VAX.SOUTHBANK-UNIVERSITY.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: How to find out Network Interface card's address

On Novell Netware v3.11, do the following:
        1. Logon to your server
        2. Type the command USERLIST /A
This should list all users presently on your network including their card
address.

The same information is also displayed when you load a packet driver or the Lan
Adapter MLID if using ODI.
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From:         "Jorge Dvila, COMPUQUIM" <J_DAVILA%CUHAC@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>
Subject:      (JDL) Plotter printing

Hi,

        I am having troubles with a workstation running RPRINTER.  It sometimes
"freezes up" when running applications like Harvard Graphics or WordPerfect.

        We would also like to share a plotter...

        Questions:  1) What runs better; core printing or remote printing?

                    2) If I use core printing would the workstations "see"
                       the plotter connected to the serial port in the
                       file server?

                    3) Is there any other solution to share a plotter?

        Note: We are running NW 2.2.

        Thanks.

Jorge L. Davila                   Internet: J_DAVILA%CUHAC@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU
University of Puerto Rico
Humacao University College
Chemistry Department
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From:         lund@EGM.LIB.ROCHESTER.EDU
Subject:      re: smc 8003pkdr packet driver and kermit
              2 Nov 1992 16:52:39 EST

I finally gave up trying to get the smc packet driver to work with kermit.
Since I normally use the ODI shell anyway, I found a program on an anonymous
FTP server that converts the ODI interface to the packet driver interface for
any program that uses packet drivers.  Kermit worker perfectly after that.  The
program is called odipkt.com.
Sandra Lundquist
Miner Medical Library
University of Rochester
lund@egm.lib.rochester.edu
From: harris@ROTC.orst.edu (Captain Harris)
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Subject: Re:  Volume Full
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:26:43 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University

Check your directory entries list using filer.  If you're out of directory 
entries, you just might be out of space.  Note that all those deleted files (
yes, you know the ones) take up directory entries until purged.

I know from personal experience that every time some runs WP, four directory 
entries are taken.  Now multiply that by the number of users, and the number 
of times they run WP each day.  I think you can get the picture.  :-)

----
Jeffrey Harris, harrisj@ccmail.orst.edu
### Where would Captain Kirk have been after the first week without his 
Chief Engineer?  DEAD.  Behind every legendary captain, there is an even more 
legendary Chief Engineer to pull his cookies out of the fire every week.

Think about it - before the Captain can have his fun and chase the ladies, 
SOMEBODY had to design and build the Enterprise in the first place, and 
redesign and rebuild it (four times, at last count). ###
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From:         Joseph Blumenfeld <JBLUMENF@SSW02.AB.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Printer cost

Can anyone give a suggestion or formula how to compute the cost per
page for laser printers?

Thank

JBLUMENF@SSW02.ab.umd.edu
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Subject: Logging in OS/2 help
From: browland@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:48:11 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

Question?
   Does anyone know how to login to OS/2 without a user typing their
   name and password?  I know it can be done in DOS with redirection
   login < rick.dat, but in OS/2 it doesn't seem to recognize the CR/LF
   between user name and password in rick.dat.  

Thanks

-robert
   

internet       browland@vax1.umkc.edu
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From:         COCHRANE@NET2.EOS.UOGUELPH.CA
Subject:      Re: microchannel vs eisa

We, at the University of Guelph Guelph Ont CA, have set up an Eisa
file server 486/33. We used a standard full tower case with a 300 watt
power supply, Intel Eisa 486/33, 32 bit scsi Adaptec with Seagate 1.2
gig hard disk, 16mb ram, 32 bit Racal Interlan ethernet card and
Novell 3.11.

I have not experimented with MCA and though I know that it can be
fast, we were interested not in just fast but compatible. Compatible
means to us price/performance($8500.00 can..). If our server blows up
we will stick in another motherboard or whatever is state of the
art. (most likely with more power (486/50, 586 maybe.. I hope)).

As you can probably tell I am another fan of those "Eisa users".

The beauty of system like this is that all components are off the
shelf so to speak with standard chassis, power supplies, etc. We get
great performance and reliability (even with 150 users at a time).
To be honest, we were worried about getting into unfamiliar territory
when we decided to go with the EISA system but our fears proved
unfounded. Our workstations are clones (55-386/486 2-4mb systems) and
have proved to be quite compatible and reliable as well. We do perform
regular maintenance on them. (things like cleaning FDD heads, mouse
balls you know the usual things.)

IBM has a great idea in micro- channel but also at a great
cost when you get into the class of servers we are talking about.

Another point of view.

Cheers;

Ross Cochrane
Netware Manager
UOG SOE Guelph, Ont. Canada.
From: richm@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU (Rich Molettiere)
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Date: 11 Nov 92 04:19:38 GMT
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The "Mac MakeUser" can be resident on a DOS machine but it must
support the extended directory (folder) names and usernames
allowed by the Mac.

For example, on our AppleShare file servers, the standard username
convention is lastname_firstname.  Obviously, this goes beyond
the 8 character DOS limitation

Does Massuser support these extended names?  All 400 of these
new users will be Macintosh users.

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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:24:00 CST
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From:         Richard Warwick <WARWICKR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Why bother having a Network?

DATE SENT:  5-NOV-1992 16:20:57
>
>The two most recent complaints we heard about our network
>software were the following.
>
>1. If lightning were to strike just one PC, the network
>   would probably spread the electricity and wipe out
>   every other PC connected.
>
>2. Someone felt our network was a fire hazzard.  We had
>   to admit ignorance as to which OSI level is supposed
>   to be fire retardant.
>
>That's the trouble, you just can't argue with logic of
>this calibre.
>
>Erick
>

You need to direct them to look up OSI levels 8,9 and 10.

Oh? you haven't heard of 8 - 10?

they are:

Religious
Political
Financial


(pick your own order  :) )

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From:         Daryl Dean Rester <rester@FIONA.UMSMED.EDU>
Subject:      NE2000

Is there anyone out their using a Novell NE2000 for IP transmission?

If you can help us get it going with Clarkson packet drivers and NCSA telnet.

Please respond directly to me.

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From:         Mike Burke <MBURK01@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      NW Lite & 10BT

Does anyone know?:

Do you need a hub to hook two and only two computers with 10 base t cards
together running NW Lite?  I have had one vendor tell me that you need a
hub with with two computers   and another tell me that as long as I only
had two computers then a hub isn't necessary.

Any information is appreciated.....thanks

Mike
mburk01@ukcc.uky.edu
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From:         CSHAFFER@SBU.EDU
Subject:      Lost mailing adderss

Sorry to post this.  Our mailer lost an address on an incomming
message.  I'd like to chat with Ron Neely, but don't have his address.

Ron, please send me your address, thanks.  Sorry to bother the rest
of you.

Chuck Shaffer                        Cshaffer@sbu.edu
Director, Computer Services          716-375-2026
St. Bonaventure University
From: medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici)
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Subject: Re: Why bother having a Network?
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:05:40 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

erick@sunee.uwaterloo.ca (Erick Engelke) writes:

>The two most recent complaints we heard about our network
>software were the following.

>1. If lightning were to strike just one PC, the network
>   would probably spread the electricity and wipe out 
>   every other PC connected.

This can be easilly avoided by bringing your PC inside in the event of
rain.  In fact, lightning aside, it's a poor idea to leave your PC
outside in the elements. 8^)

Humor aside, unless you use copper network cable between buildings,
the network cabling itself has a very low risk of allowing lightning
to damage your pcs.  Ethernet requires a single ground per network
segment, and electrical isolation between the cable and the interface.
If lightning were to find its way onto your network cable, it would
seek the path of least resistance to ground, which would be the single
ground point located at one end of the cable.  There are also spark-
gap and either transformer or opto-electric isolation on nearly all
types of network interfaces.

A greater risk is pc damage caused by lightning-induced surges through
a phone line and modem; and ground-potential differences caused by the
use of copper-cable for inter-building network runs.  In fact, in over
12 years of computing, the sum total of damaged determined to be
caused by lighting was:

  8 cases of ground-potential difference due to inter-building copper
    cable.
  2 cases of lightning-induced surges on phone lines, passing through
    modems.

>2. Someone felt our network was a fire hazzard.  We had
>   to admit ignorance as to which OSI level is supposed
>   to be fire retardant.

I don't recall any OSI specifications on fire retardancy (sp?).  This
is generally specified by government electrical codes.  OSI layer 1
(physical) does specify signal levels, and these levels are low enough
that a properly operating network should not supply enough current to
ignite the cable (or equipment) without external current supplies
(e.g., a cable shorting to a mains power source).
-- 
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RUCS     | Mark A. Medici, Systems Programmer III, User Services Division
User     | Rutgers University Computing Services, New Brunswick, NJ 08903
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From:         "Bruce A. Knack" <BKNACK@FAS.UOGUELPH.CA>
Subject:      Filer problem

Hi All:

I have exactly the same problem with filer!

Cheers,
Bruce.
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Bruce A. Knack
Financial & Administrative Services
University of Guelph
Guelph, ON
Canada

1 519 824-4120 x 6878
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:49:43 CST
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From:         Ron Neely <SURGRON@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Adaptec controller again ??

>    I am referring to the many reports in this list, it seems that the
>    symptoms vary from case to case, and so do the diagnoses. We had similar
>    problems, although our equipment is slightly different.

>    The configuration of our server was:
>    A Hertz 386/DX (33MHz) 8MB RAM ISA. A 340 MB SCSI disk (Maxtor),
>    Adaptec AHA 1542B controller and EtherFlex PLUS/16 Ethernet card
>    (Western Digital compatible)

>    The symptoms in our case were similar to those already described in
>    previous articles in the list. We had problems during installation,
>    (volume SYS would not mount, VREPAIR would not fix it, and result
>    in a message: "The mirror copies of the FAT don't match".)
>   Every component of our computer has been replaced, and somehow this
>   phenomenon  vanished.

>   Now we are in the "production" phase, and we have a strange phenomenon
>   of random corruption of files. Netware, Dos, or other programs, and
>   even data files become corrupted and do unpredictable strange things.
>   The remedy is to replace the file with a "good" copy from backup.

>   Again, we have replaced the disk and the controller, but this time with
>   no improvement.  At last, Hertz people have replaced the Ethernet card
>   by COMPEX ENET/U, configured as NE2000 with a jumper set for the
>   Bus Master card. It seemed good for a while, until I changed to another
>   NE2000 card - TopWare TE2000, (no jumper for Bus Master).

>   I again encounter corrupted files, and since this "illness" seems of a
>   progressive/cummulative nature, I am not sure that the change of
>   Ethernet cards has any relevance to the problem at all.  In the many
>   articles in the list, nobody mentioned the Ethernet card as the source of
>   the problem.

>   I have looked at the SCSI controller card, and have found no Intel chip
>   with the  number SZ570 on it.

>   Can anybody with a similar experience help?
>   Thanks,

>   Yael Naaman Computer Center,
>   Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel

    Try disabling parity on both drive and controller.  This has cleared up
    several similar cases of random file corruption that I know about.

    -Ron-
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:38:48 -0800
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From:         Henry Unger <hunger@HITECH.COM>
Subject:      Windows for Workplace

It appears that Microsoft has done it to us again.  Windows for Workplace
requires the use of NDIS rather than ODI.  What do I do when all the PCs on
my network are running packet driver interface and IPX/SPX over ODI using
ODIPKT and IPXODI and my minis are running TCP/IP?

Is there such a thing as an ODINDIS (or would that be NDISODI)?
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:06:07 MST
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From:         Larry Sands <ABUSANDS@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      DOS/Mac Printing

Our school uses Netware 3.11 with DOS and Mac clients.  Our networked HPIIIsi p
rinters are set to "language switching mode".  Macs expect a printer to be in P
ostScript mode and my understanding is that Macs cannot reset a printer to Post
Script if the printer is in PCL mode.  Can anyone suggest a full-proof method o
f switching HPIIIsi printers between PCL and PostScript (and vice versa) that i
s transparent to the user?  Thanks in advance.

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From:         BRIAN@RRCC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      windows for workgroups & odi/ndis ???

Hello Net'ers,
Well, Windows for Workgoups is out, and I like it a lot. Thats the good news.
Now the bad news, MS WFW getting started manual page 105, "WFW does not
support Novell Netware Connectivity with ArcNet network cards." As we have
over 250 ArcNet nodes, I am rather disappointed. We also have some ethernet,
good news right ... not. We use odi drivers and lan workplace for dos to
connect to our Unix hosts. As WFW wants NDIS, I am constantly changing
config.sys and autoexec.bat to switch back and forth. While I can do this
I cant expect others to. I tried to get WFW to work with the NDIS shim for
odi, with no luck. If any one has figured out how to do this please help.
THANX for any help,
Brian Ranum
Red Rocks Community College
BRIAN@RRCC.COLORADO.EDU

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:49:30 EDT
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From:         "Stephen M. Cates" <NESMC%NERVM.BITNET@SUVM.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Looking for NE1000 ODI Drivers

Subject says it all, please reply directly if possible.


Thanks in Advance.....

STEPHEN
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From:         Daan Nagtegaal <daan@FRED.CSIR.CO.ZA>
Subject:      Help: set station time

Hi there,

On one of the workstations on our LAN (running Novell Netware
v3.11) I do not want to synchronise workstation time with the
time on the file server. I did try SET STATION TIME=OFF in the
shell.cfg. Shell.cfg is in the same directory as ipx.com and
netx.com. However it does not seem to work.

Any suggestions appreciated, thanks.

Daan Nagtegaal                 Internet: daan@stel.csir.co.za
Hermanus Magnetic Observatory  Phone:    27-283-21196
P O Box 32, Hermanus 7200      Fax:      27-283-22039
South Africa
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