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From: robinsonm@clvax1.cl.msu.edu (Admiral Robinson)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:41:46 GMT
Reply-To: robinsonm@clvax1.cl.msu.edu
Organization: Starfleet Command - Terran Empire
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

In article <1992Nov17.075553.5389@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes...
>In article <oneil.721868088@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>>
>>I honestly believe -- and have been told I'm unusual for this belief -- that 
>>in a relationship, friendship should come before romance.  Personally, I've
>>*never* fallen head over heels in love with someone unless I was friends 
>>first.  Maybe it *is* a little cynical, but I just don't believe in love at
>>first sight, for myself anyway.
> 
>I think you are unusual, though not unique, in this respect--it's been
>my experience that for most people, once they perceive you as a friend,
>they will no longer ever be able to perceive you as a potential romantic
>possibility.  Personally, I think your way is more reasonable, but it's
>still very much the less popular tactic.
> 
>Trygve 

Of course it's more reasonable, that's why it never seems to 
work.  Now that the cynicism has been dealt with, I must admit my 
agreement with the two folks above.  

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From: daniel@clsi.COM (Daniel Barclay)
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:12:37

> --
> Stef                   I may look calm, but beneath this cool exterior 
> stef@apple.com         is a churning iceberg ready to explode.
                                       ^^^              ^^^^^^^
>                                          --Mixed metaphor hall of fame

As someone around here says, "Been there.  Done that."
(I froze a firecracker into a chunk of ice and detonated it electrically.
Pieces of ice flew everywhere.  "Kyool.")
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 21 Nov 92 01:41:19 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <98562@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>In article <By0L67.C6s@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
|
|>Au contraire, high-heeled shoes are used to create a supernormal stimulus,
|>just like lipstick, neck rings, brassieres, corsets, bustles, and foot-
|>binding.  
|
|They also landed me on crutches for the past three months.  I just
|recently burned my last pair of high heels.  They sat on the log in the
|fireplace for a few moments, then -- WHOOSH!  They burst into flame.
|
|It was extremely gratifying.
 
Interesting.  Women used to burn their brassieres.  Men didn't complain.  
I wonder what'll happen if women start burning their highheeled shoes.
 
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| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:59:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.000122.2248@netcom.com>, marcia@netcom.com (Marcia) writes:
. But
> then I found a social support system. The funny thing was, it was.....USENET.
> 
> Ok, the net was much smaller and somewhat friendlier at the time (I started

JUST WHAT DO YO MEAN BY THAT CRACK????  FRIENDLIER, HUH, well that tears it,
I challenge you to a duel-keyboards at one thousand miles.

Sorry I just couldn't resist.  :-{)


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> Marcia Bednarcyk                                  ADDRESSES: marcia@netcom.com
> "Sweaty Snugglebunnies."                                     mlb@cisco.com




Larry Billings
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From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Unattached Ph.D.'s (was:Re: Education and the Single World
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:56:50 GMT
Reply-To: tps@jptcs.com
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions, Port Jeff Station, NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

gary l. schroeder (schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov) wrote:
: Mind you, this is the first woman I've met since I've been on this
: miserable island that was politically, socially, and philosophically
: aware and not interested in Oog's big pick up truck.  Oh well, so they
: only come along once every two years.  No big deal.  I can wait.

Welcome to this miserable Island! Congrats on finding one that was
AWARE!

Tim
-- 
Tim Sailer
JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
Port Jefferson Station, NY
(516) 331-9001
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: probst@selkirk.sfu.ca (Scott Probst)
Subject: Re: How to explain?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:01:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.013750.7674@kpc.com> dennisp@kpc.com (Dennis Preston) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.235511.2900@csi.uottawa.ca> misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>>   When I cross the Canada-U.S. border, and a U.S. immigration official
>>asks me the purpose of my visit, how can I explain that I'm going to a
>>Boink in a manner that will minimize the number of followup questions?
>
>Just tell them that you're going to visit friends. Have you been across the
>border lately? It's not very difficult.
>

that's what you think. last time i tried to cross the border in a car [volvo],
this guard, who bore a disturbing resemblance to harry dean stanton, asked
me the question "have you ever been arrested, detained, etc., for anything?"
THREE TIMES, and when i answered "no" the third time, looked at me and
said "for *anything*?". such distrust.

that was getting out of canada. getting out of the u.s. was even more 
seriously weird. it was midnight [same crossing: Winnipeg/Grand Forks, n.d. - 
looks like an outhouse 15 miles from the back door], and after the guard
carefully explained that he was there to "interdict drugs and guns", we
thought it only fair to explain that we "hadn't been able to find any".
which was true. he sort of glared at us, and muttered "well, good". we left.

so. any questions?

him

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:25:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.051430.11930@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington) writes:
>In article <5745@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.com writes:
>>Sandra Loosemore (loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu) wrote:
>>: a dress, and I wouldn't be caught dead in high heels either.
>>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Now THAT'S a shame! :(
>
>Huh? High heels are the female equivalent of ties on men: pointless,
>uncomfortable adornment, to be worn only when the situation demands it

Au contraire, high-heeled shoes are used to create a supernormal stimulus,
just like lipstick, neck rings, brassieres, corsets, bustles, and foot-
binding.  Human legs reach their greatest length at sexual maturity.  The
purpose of high-heeled shoes is to add a little bit more to that length.

Also, they can be removed from the feet quickly enough to make a dandy and
very deadly weapon.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:12:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.051430.11930@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington) writes:
>In article <5745@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.com writes:
>>Sandra Loosemore (loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu) wrote:
>>: a dress, and I wouldn't be caught dead in high heels either.
>>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Now THAT'S a shame! :(
>
>Huh? High heels are the female equivalent of ties on men: pointless,
                                                           ^^^^^^^^^
High heels are more likely to have points than almost any other
article of clothing.

>uncomfortable adornment,

Do you consider all adornment pointless?

>There's been a lot of talk about non-conformists. Me, I wear what I
>feel comfortable wearing in the particular situation:

Most conformists would say exactly that.  They just happen to feel
comfortable wearing something similar to what other people are
wearing, so that they don't stand out because of their clothing.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:13:04 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Nov22234015@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <MARTINC.92Nov22205408@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>
>   No, asshole, it's the fact that *I* had to read the description before I
>   *knew* you should be in my kill file that upsets me.
>
>Since it appear to be an issue, I apologize for sullying the newsgroup
>with the somewhat coarse word "asshole".

Why?  Other than the fact that you're wrong, of course: no way Dougie
could be an asshole, the way he's so full of shit.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 03:29:29 GMT

In article 14NOV199201231760@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov, casey@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sean Casey GSFC (301)286-4558) writes:
>In article <lg8j79INNbhb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM writes...
>> 
>>In article 29778@b8.b8.ingr.com, larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
>>>In article <8525.4930@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM>, spetter@photon.swdc.stratus.com (Scott Spetter) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> Try small/cute ADULT dogs that are not too hyper.  I have a well-trained
>>>> 5 lb Pomeranian, and whenever Louisa and I hit the park, we ALWAYS have
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>
>>>Any dog that isn't too hyper or threatening is good.  I've got three now, and
>>>taking them all out at the same time gets attention, but it's too distracting
>> 
>>>Larry Billings
>> 
>> 
>>An amusing little tale (tail???) related to men and dogs . . . 
>> 
>>I went white water rafting at the South Fork of the American
>>River this summer.  Heaps of fun!!!
>> 
>>Anyway, first day we're at the river and a bunch of the guys 
>>were unloading the rafts and inflating them while another bunch 
>>of us were hanging out, drinking beer and river punch (totally 
>>lethal stuff!!!) and partying when along comes this really cool 
>>jeep equipped with one extremely gorgeous guy and a one-eyed dog!  
>> 
>>A few of the girls and I staggered towards the jeep and started 
>>chatting him up -- asking him a million and one questions about 
>>his one-eyed Jack . . . ummm . . . dog who's rearing to go into 
>>the water.
>> 
>>He was working on untying a knot to unload the kayak off his jeep 
>>and having been a Girl Scout in a past life, I offered to help him
>>get knotted . . . ummmm . . . I mean, untie the knot.  Shifting my
>>gaze to it (the knot he was untying), my eyes grew as large as flying 
>>saucers when I saw this ginormous schlong protruding between his legs.  
>>Holy ravioli!!!  Freak me out Brussels sprouts!!!  I tried frantically
>>to get the attention of my girlfriends -- who at this point were drooling
>>unashamedly -- and attempted to subtly point out this horribly-erect 
>>mutation between the legs of said gorgeous guy.  I suppose 4 pairs of 
>>eyes oogling someone's crotch is far from subtle cause GG looks at his
>>crotch to see what we're staring at, removes what turns out to be a hugh
>>skin-colored, rubber boner . . . oops! I mean bone, throws it out to the
>>dog, grins and remarks, "Jake loves playing with it when we're in the
>>water."
>> 
>>Exit 4 very red-in-the-face, horribly embarrassed girls.
>> 
>>-- Nina 
>> 
>
>I love it! Every guy has an angle! Tell me it wasn't a setup!
>Baw-ha-ha-ha...(it just not safe anywhere...)

Yuppers! A true classic flirtation device. :+)

dreas

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: k36853p@saha.hut.fi (Tapani Otala)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Reply-To: Tapani.Otala@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:34:33 GMT


In article <7308@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>I feel that someone who mangles names without prior permission *does*
>truly deserve hostility.  (Not violence, understand, just hostility.)
>I think saying, "Hi, my name's Elizabeth Abrams" IS pretty direct
>and clear.  I've just told you what my name is, so why are you going
>to assume that it's really something else?

Just outta curiosity, do you differentiate between mangling and
mispronounciation?  Lets say some poor schmuck foreigner pronounces
your name like you would pronounce "suurtaajuuskolmivaihekilowatti-
tuntimittari"?  ("high frequency three phase kWh meter", for the
curious among us... no flames please, I'm no EE major ;-)

This interests me because no matter how clearly I may introduce
myself, thus far every American I've encountered has horribly
mangled my name when pronouncing it.  Naturally, after the few
failed attempts I give up and either settle for the closest
alternative, or urge the poor soul to refer to me as "Steve"
or "Stephen" - my Finnish name supposedly has its origins in
the Greek name "Stefanos".

I rarely take offense in this "mangling", especially if it
is evident that the person is making an effort of getting it
straight.

>I really don't think that a preference for being called by one's 
>name is all that unusual.  I suspect you have a preference for being

Me neither, except that you make it sound like you'd die rather
than let go of your preference.  Maybe I'm naive, but I didn't
realize such people existed.

>called "Karen", rather than "Lisa", "Jane", "Susan" or (for that matter)
>"Robert".  Why might you expect someone to call you Karen, rather than
>any of these other names?  Well, for one, because that's probably what

I certainly don't expect to be called "Tapani" anywhere outside
of Finland... Heck, I don't even expect people to know whether
its a male or a female name.

>you told them your name was when you introduced yourself!  "Liz" is
>no more my name than "Robert" is yours.

I've been called "Tapaani", "Tappan", "Daban", and myriad of other
names, even by fellow Finns.... never hurt me or my ego in any way.


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Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:35:26 GMT

In article <oneil.721868088@cwis>, oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:

|> I honestly believe -- and have been told I'm unusual for this belief -- that 
|> in a relationship, friendship should come before romance.  Personally, I've
|> *never* fallen head over heels in love with someone unless I was friends 
|> first.  Maybe it *is* a little cynical, but I just don't believe in love at
|> first sight, for myself anyway.

Well, I don't either...although a healthy dose of Lust at First Sight isn't
too hard to come by at times :-)

It interests me that you find yourself becoming romantically attracted to 
people with whom you're already friends. Most of the cases I know of personally
don't work that way.  If a solid friendship is there first, I've actually
seen resistance to anything more romantic.

Take me for instance...on numerous occasions I've gone into a "relationship"
(in quotes because I'm using it in the generic sense...i.e. not romantic,
necessarily) thinking "I like this person, I want to make sure we're friends
and then I'll try to make it something closer, but I still want to be friends
if it doesn't work" and guess what...let's just say I have a lot of friends!
For me, at least, if I go into it with the attitude that I want to be friends
first, then that's usually what I end up with (which is not necessarily a bad
thing...friendships are a valuable commodity!). Interestingly enough, it's
worked in the reverse with me as well...in other words, someone I've been
friends with for some time became interested in something "more"...I was very
uncomfortable with that.

Anyway, your mileage may vary, but that's been my experience...

jds

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From: dko@cs.wisc.edu (David Olsen)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:15:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov23.201546.26463
Reply-To: dko@cs.wisc.edu
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, University of Wisconsin

In article <92328.081827PLK109@psuvm.psu.edu>, <PLK109@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> Can someone tell me what Clinton's ancestry looks like?  Does he decend from
|> English royalty in any way?  Is he related to any former presidents?

The following is from memory only, so it is probably not quite right.

Shortly after the U.S. elections, I saw or heard a piece of news on TV or 
radio about the ancestry of Bill Clinton and George Bush.  The American
representative from Burkes (the company that publishes "Burkes Peerage" and
related works) was saying that the election could be seen as revenge for
an act that occured many centuries ago.  Sometime in early English history
(somewhere between 1100 and 1400, I can't remember exactly when), one of
Bill Clinton's ancestors, an English Lord, was part of a force that rebelled
against the current English king, one of George Bush's ancestors.  The 
rebelious barons were soundly defeated by the king and stripped of their
wealth and power.

-- 
David Olsen				University of Wisconsin
dko@cs.wisc.edu				Department of Computer Sciences
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:11:11 -0800
Reply-To:     Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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              lisanne@CARSON.U.WASHINGTON.EDU
From:         Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: N.J. Birth Certificate
Comments: To: Carolyn Edds <RIVERAT%NERVM.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu>
Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list ROOTS-L
          <ROOTS-L%NDSUVM1.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu>

Carolyn--

The address in the most recent _Where to Write for Vital Statistics_ from
the Department of Health and Human Services is:

                                State Department of Health
                                Bureau of Vital Statistics
                                South Warren and Market Streets
                                CN 370
                                Trenton, NJ  08625

According to this [published June 1990] the cost for birth certificates is
$4.00 with checks payable to New Jersey State Department of Health.  To
verify current fees the telephone number is [was] (609) 292-4087.

Lisa Oberg
lisanne@u.washington.edu

On Sun, 15 Nov 1992, Carolyn Edds wrote:

> I am writing for a friend.  She needs a copy of her birth certificate from
> New Jersey.  From my 1989 printing of The Handy Book for Genealogists, I
> gave her the following address:   State Registrar's Office
>                                   State of New Jersey
>                                   Department of Health
>                                   John Fitch Plaza
>                                   P.O. Box 1540
>                                   Trenton, N.J.
>                                            08625
>
>
>  Does anyone know if this is the current address to write for a certified
> copy of a birth certificate?  I once sent for a record from another state
> using an address from my copy of the Handy Book and the address had changed
> since the book had been printed.
>   Also, does anyone know what the current charge is for a certified copy of
> a birth certificate from New Jersey?
>   Thanks for you help.
>
>
> Carolyn Edds
> Internet: riverat@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu
> Bitnet:  riverat@nervm
>
> Searching: McPeek, McCluskey, Barry in Ohio;Edds, Harper, Towers in Arkansas;
From: cowan@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (P.L. Cowan)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Two items regarding the Civil War.
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:39:58 -0800
Organization: SSRL, Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu

Two items:

I have a Xerox copy of my GGdad's Pension Record from the National Archives,
that includes a nicely written certificate of his would at Gettysburg.
I think it would make a nice wll hanging, but I'd like something better
that a regular Xerox. Are there copy services that can prettify a copy of 
such a doccument? I know I'll never get the original.

Second, I just read on Prodigy that the Army has indexed 80,000 photos from
the Civil War. Dies anybody have any experience with this? The address to 
write to is:

     Department of the Army
     US Army Military History Institute
     Carlisle Barraks
     Carlisle, PA   17013-5008

     Attn: Special Collections Branch
           Michael J. Winey, Curator

They will "answer all requests", but suppling Unit and rank will undoubtedly 
help alot. Of the 80,000, 90% are Union soldiers, but they have many unindexed
photos that will keep them busy for at least 3 more years. If you have a
Confederate ancestor (who wasn't a general) you may need to be patient.

-Paul


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