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From: gt0577c@prism.gatech.EDU (ZADNIK,JERRY)
Newsgroups: ga.forsale
Subject: *****  Wanted  ******  Used, simple, VCR player/recorder
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:23:22 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Hi! I am looking for my wife's Christmas present.
(OK, I'm a student and we have to cut corners)

My wife would love to record a morning aerobics program 
(while she's asleep) and replay it during the day.
Since this sounds like a great idea to me, I'd like to
find her something to use.

Does anyone have a VCR that they would be willing to sell
to do the job?

It doesn't have to be fancy.
   - I don't need stereo sound.
   - I don't need a remote.
   - I don't need editing capabilities.
   - etc...

The only feature I would like, is to be able to program it
to record unattended.

Please send e-mail if you have something like this laying around
and you'd like to sell it.

Thanks,
       Jerry


-- 
ZADNIK, JERRY
Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: gt0869a@prism.gatech.EDU (WATERS,CLYDE GORDON)
Newsgroups: ga.forsale,git.ads,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: notebook PC (and other) update.
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:17:10 GMT
Followup-To: ga.forsale
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

This is the latest edition in my computer stuff for sale. 

The AST color notebook has been sold; in fact, the owner sold it even 
before I could contact him again.

The monochrome monitor has been sold.

Stuff still available: 

EGA card, also does Hercules mode, $20
(Note: this card also has parallel and serial ports)

286-10 motherboard, Magitronic (same as DTK), 1 meg
 ram, $50

MFM controller, 16 bit, WD, $25

4- 256k x 9 SIMMS, 150 ns, works in most machines up to 16 Mhz,
$22 for the set of 4.

Contact by Email.

Thanks,
Gordon.
 
-- 
WATERS,CLYDE GORDON-Class of '93-Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta Ga. 
"Out of the mountain of despair, we can hew the stone of hope"- MLK Jr. 
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Internet: gt0869a@prism.gatech.edu
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: ga.forsale
Subject: for sale
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:41:49 EST

for sale-
19inch panasonic color TV- with remote, cable ready
recently cleaned and serviced (set is aprox 5 years old)
the person that did the work said the set was in Very Good condition-
asking $100

please e-mail as I can sometime Not receive this group (and atl. and ga.)
thanks-
From: rick@rodan.UU.NET (Rick Adams)
Newsgroups: uunet.products
Subject: Re: $75 rebate on T-3000 PLUS Free Fax software
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:11:50 -0500
Organization: UUNET Communications
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Summary: $99 and only from telebit!

In article <1dcb49INNq3a@rodan.UU.NET>, I wrote:
> Those UUNET customers who purchased T3000s before November 1, can order the
> upgrade from UUNET for $69 ($99 list) through December 28th. After that the
> price goes up to $99 ($149 list)
> 

Telebit has made some clarifications on this upgrade.

1) The upgrade must be ordered directly from Telebit. 
2) The $99 IS the discounted price, so it's not available for $69

Sorry for the confusion.

--rick
From: tamara@news1.UU.NET (Tamara S. Bowman)
Newsgroups: uunet.status
Subject: UUNET Unreachable Wed. December 16
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:41:12 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: uunet
NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.uu.net

From about 10:50 to 11:20am Wednesday UUNET subscribers may have
experienced delays in uucp transfers, been unable to login, or been
unable to access their uucp spool.

A daemon on our main uucp spool system had problems and in its death
throes it caused that system to run out of of processes and quadruple
its load.  We believe we have eliminated the conditions which caused
the problem, but we are still investigating a complete solution.  No
data was lost.


Tamara Bowman			liaison@uunet.uu.net
Manager Technical Support 	uunet!liaison
UUNET Technologies, Inc.
From: tamara@news1.UU.NET (Tamara S. Bowman)
Newsgroups: uunet.status
Subject: UUNET Ethernet Reorganization Sunday Dec. 20
Date: 17 Dec 1992 14:22:07 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: uunet
NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.uu.net

On Sunday Dec 20th, UUNET will be reorganizing its local ethernet
layout to better handle increasing load.  In addition, UUNET will be
reallocating the IP addresses for some of the production hosts.  This
reorganization has forced the normal Sunday dumps to be pushed back by
two hours, so they will start at noon Eastern time on Sunday.  As
usual, UUCP customers will be unable to transfer files while dumps are
occurring.

Additionally, after the dumps are finished, there will be additional
time during which UUNET will be unreachable while the actual re-wiring
and testing of the new network organization is performed.  During part
of this time period (which should start at 3:00pm EST), AlterNet
connectivity may experience several small routing flaps.  No routing
problems should persist more than 15 minutes.

When the reorganization is complete, UUCP customers should not see any
functional differences in service.  Customers who use TCP/IP to
communicate with UUNET and use the nameserver (BIND) to resolve
addresses should have no problem communicating with us.  Only people
who are using hardwired IP addresses for UUNET hosts addresses should
have problems.  Given that DNS has been widely deployed on the Internet
for over five years, this should not be a problem.  If your hosts are
not using DNS at this time, we strongly urge that you switch all your
computers to use DNS for hostname resolution.

Hostname:       Old IP address:         New IP address:
uunet.uu.net    137.39.1.2              192.48.96.2
news.uu.net     137.39.1.6              192.48.96.70
news1.uu.net    137.39.1.16             153.39.3.71
news2.uu.net    137.39.1.17             153.39.3.72

Thank you


Tamara Bowman			liaison@uunet.uu.net
Manager Technical Support 	uunet!liaison
UUNET Technologies, Inc.

Newsgroups: uunet.forum
From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: getty battles
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Distribution: uunet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:36:06 GMT

ziegast@godzilla.UU.NET (Eric W. Ziegast) writes:

>|> Isn't anyone else having this problem?  Can't something be done?

Yes -- I had problems at one time connecting to a multiprocessor Arix machine
that displayed the same symptoms.  I ended up counting and using the third
login in the chat script -- and then the problem was no longer an issue.

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: chorn@eastwind.mcds.com
Newsgroups: uunet.forum
Subject: Batched mail
Summary: Can UUNet Batch EMail for UUCP sites?
Keywords: Batch Mail UUBatch
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 12:08:20 EST
Organization: The East Wind  +1 201 875 7063


Does anyone know if UUNet is capable of batching mail for downstream
UUCP customers? In particular, is it the format generated by the
UUbatch 1.04 program? Thanks.

 ---
 Christopher Horn           |  "We're all caught in a state of decay..."
 chorn@eastwind.mcds.com    |  The East Wind  +1 201 875 7063
Newsgroups: uunet.forum
From: logan@gimlet.herndon.va.us (Jim Logan)
Subject: getty battles
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:50:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: (None)

I am having a problem that does not seem to be getting
resolved.  When I dial into UUNET in the evenings, I usually
see "...login: ...login: ..." and my modem says "enough already".
I emailed Eric Z. about it, and he asked me to tell him when it
happened so that he could look at some log and correlate the
information.  This was on October 23rd.

I sent messages right away whenever I manually started UUCP and
noticed the problem, but I never heard anything back, and I'm
still having the problem.

Isn't anyone else having this problem?  Can't something be done?

-- 
Jim Logan
logan@gimlet.herndon.va.us     ...There's no place like $HOME.
uunet!gimlet!logan
From: ziegast@godzilla.UU.NET (Eric W. Ziegast)
Newsgroups: uunet.forum
Subject: Re: getty battles
Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:06:11 GMT
Organization: UUNET Technologies - Falls Church, VA
Distribution: uunet
NNTP-Posting-Host: godzilla.uu.net

First, if you send mail to uunet!postmaster and don't get a timely
response, send another message to uunet!postman and ask what happened
to your mail or why your haven't gotten a response back.  Our manager
can then grab me (or whoever is handling your message) by the ear and
make sure the problem gets resolved or at least acknowledged.

I haven't been great at giving immediate responses to everyone, and I
apologize, but I am working on improving my e-mail track record.

logan@gimlet.herndon.va.us (Jim Logan) writes:
|> I am having a problem that does not seem to be getting
|> resolved.  When I dial into UUNET in the evenings, I usually
|> see "...login: ...login: ..." and my modem says "enough already".

To be more specific, he saw:

  ^J^M^JUUNET Communications Services (uunet)^M^J^M^M^J^M
  uucp2 login:got it
  sendthem (gimlet^M)
  expect: (word:)
  ^M^J^M^JUUNET Communications Services (uunet)^M^J^M^M^J^M
  uucp2 login: ^M^J^M^JUUNET Communications Services (uunet)^M^J^M^M^J^M
  uucp2 login: ^M^J^M^JUUNET Communications Services (uunet)^M^J^M^M^J^M
  uucp2 login: rvices (uunet)^M^JET Communications Services (uunet)
  ^M^J^M^J^M^J^M^J^M^J^M^J
  uucp2 login: ^M^J^M^J^M^J^M^J^M^J^M^JUUNET Communications S
  enough already

Does anyone else see that on a regular basis?

|> I emailed Eric Z. about it, and he asked me to tell him when it
|> happened so that he could look at some log and correlate the
|> information.  This was on October 23rd.

I couldn't get any information on our side.  I see now that this kind
of problem can't be tracked on our end (getty doesn't log anything).

|> Isn't anyone else having this problem?  Can't something be done?

If anyone else sees this problem, please send mail to uunet!postmaster.
--
Eric Ziegast
From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [Postmaster])
Newsgroups: uunet.forum
Subject: Re: Hello? Hello?
Keywords: 
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:41:09 EST
Organization: Megalith Mail/News Server

Quoted from - sdb@ssr.com (Scott Ballantyne):
> Just a note:
> 
> Here's the tale: In February, I asked what the maximum number of
> characters that the rmail program on uunet could handle. James Revell
> said that uunet could handle 10240.
> 
> It seems he may be mistaken.  I would suggest to anyone who manages
> mailing lists to restrict individual command files to less than 900
> characters.
> 
> Of course, the above is just my guess as to why no one on my mailing
> list has been receiving mail, since no one at uunet has bothered
> answering my mail on the issue.  Whatever happened to the good old
> days, when mail to postmaster@uunet.uu.net actually got answered? I
> don't mind waiting a reasonable period for an answer, but I sent the
> first note about the problem on Nov 22, and resent it a week later.
> 
> That's not very nice...
> 
> 
> 
	I have to disagree and come to the defense of UUNET.  I
E-Mailed Eric Ziegast a while back about the same thing.  You see, I
manage the Comp.sys.amiga.announce mailing list.  He did give me
the same answer you did about 10240 being the Max UUNET could
handle, however it seems that it is actually 1024.  Therefore I
have restricted my command file to 1000 Characters and I havn't had
any trouble.  I have sent E-mail to uunet!postmaster numerous times
and on each occasion my E-Mail has been answered.  Eric has
especially gone out of his way to help were he could.

Carlos
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Newsgroups: uunet.forum
From: sdb@ssr.com (Scott Ballantyne)
Subject: Hello? Hello?
Organization: ScotSoft Research
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:13:20 GMT

Just a note:

Here's the tale: In February, I asked what the maximum number of
characters that the rmail program on uunet could handle. James Revell
said that uunet could handle 10240.

It seems he may be mistaken.  I would suggest to anyone who manages
mailing lists to restrict individual command files to less than 900
characters.

Of course, the above is just my guess as to why no one on my mailing
list has been receiving mail, since no one at uunet has bothered
answering my mail on the issue.  Whatever happened to the good old
days, when mail to postmaster@uunet.uu.net actually got answered? I
don't mind waiting a reasonable period for an answer, but I sent the
first note about the problem on Nov 22, and resent it a week later.

That's not very nice...



Newsgroups: houston.general
From: aph@owlnet.rice.edu (Aaron Phillip Hertzmann)
Subject: Re: Idea (questions)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 21:53:05 GMT

If you want to "take back" the country, when was it ever like you envision?

What do you envision for America, ideally?  Is it freedom or fascism?
Individuality or productivity?  Does the government exist for the benefit o
the nation; if not, than for what?

Why do you think you know what the best way to live is?  What is it?

How do you expect to "learn" if your ideas are set in stone?

In fact, didn't the Founding Fathers preach openness, individual rights,
freedom of speech, and concensus?  (Ideas which were then liberal, too.)


In short, WHY?

Aaron.
From: wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu (Rick Russell)
Newsgroups: houston.general
Subject: Re: Idea
Date: 11 Dec 1992 11:47:08 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

In article <1992Dec9.220544.2133@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_huntercj@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
...
> and not just believe the majority. The whole reason Bill Clinton was
> elected was because the population did not listen to the other side or to
> what Clinton was really saying. If people would have thought the
> situation out and not just listened to what they were told Clinton would
> never have carried state.
...

Hmm. Maybe, just maybe, the whole reason Bill Clinton was elected was
because he got the most votes.

Seriously, though, doesn't this distribe sound like it was written by
a 16 year old HS dropout? Grammar, man, grammar. Nobody takes to
youseriously if you mispel and use the run on sentence that got no
punctution.

I begin to suspect that the bulk of the problems in this country come
not from liberal-minded politics, but from uneducated persons such as
the author of this fine document.

-- 
#      Rick Russell | TAMU Meteorology | wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu       # 
#     "I am Elfy of Atlantis." "I am Jo-Jo of Munchkinland."           #
#     "We are Elfy and Jo-Jo!"                                         #
From: homer@korova.freeside.com (Homer The Brave)
Newsgroups: houston.general
Subject: FAR RIGHT, Gary Larson's long-lost Nazi brother
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 01:14:30 CST
Organization: VHF void tube of the mind (713) 492-2783

Hmm... Lotsa heady stuff being posted on houston.general these days...

I say lettem suffer the flames... :-)

           -----

homer@korova.freeside.com
 "...and all the while/as vampires feed/I bleed..."
                                 --pixies
Newsgroups: houston.general
From: rene@rice.edu (Rene G. Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: Idea
Originator: rene@athene.cs.rice.edu
Reply-To: rene@rice.edu (Rene G. Rodriguez)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:59:41 GMT


|> Seriously, though, doesn't this distribe sound like it was written by
|> a 16 year old HS dropout? Grammar, man, grammar. Nobody takes to
|> youseriously if you mispel and use the run on sentence that got no
|> punctution.

Well, your grammar and spelling also leave something to be desired. Granted,
though, that yours is an informal text and the original was a "manifesto."

|> I begin to suspect that the bulk of the problems in this country come
|> not from liberal-minded politics, but from uneducated persons such as
|> the author of this fine document.

I think I've seen far too many responses dealing with the _author_  instead
of the _contents_ of the posting. Ad hominem attacks are bogus. It would be
more enlightening if you exposed the flaws in the original document.

--rene
From: craig@adikia.sccsi.com (Craig Groeschel)
Newsgroups: houston.general
Subject: Re: Idea
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 19:52:15 CST
Organization: Craig Groeschel's system, Houston, TX

[ >|> == Rick Russell, TAMU ]
[ > == somebody from Rice ]
> |> Seriously, though, doesn't this distribe sound like it was written by
> |> a 16 year old HS dropout? Grammar, man, grammar. Nobody takes to
> |> youseriously if you mispel and use the run on sentence that got no
> |> punctution.
> 
> Well, your grammar and spelling also leave something to be desired.

Sigh.  No comment.
--
"Do not play this piece fast. It is never right to play Ragtime fast." Joplin
Newsgroups: houston.general
From: someone@Texaco.com (Larry D. Pyeatt)
Subject: Re: Idea
Organization: Texaco
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:41:16 GMT

In article <8068@lib.tmc.edu>, jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
|> 
|> I consider myself a conservative. Others do so as well.
|> I believe that the election of Bill Clinton was a serious mistake that we will
|> pay for for years, just as we paid for Carter for years.

... and Reagan for twice as long... and Bush too
I think that if you examine the records, you will see that when Carter left
office, the deficit was under control, jobs were being created, taxes were
lower than they are now, and the economy was beginning to pick up.  It took
Reagan four years to destroy what Carter did. I agree that Bush is not as
stupid as Reagan, but it is time for a change.  This country has gone in the
wrong direction for too long.

|> I disagree vehemently with many of the '60s-inspired special interest pressure
|> groups, and think that they are causing more problems than they're solving.

yeah, like the College Republicans and the (im)Moral Majority.

|> Having said all that, I must say that the referenced document is one of the
|> scariest things I've read, as much as anything because I think the author
|> really believes what he wrote and is likely to act on it. My only comfort
|> comes from my belief that he won't attract many followers.

At least we agree on _something_.  :^)

-- 
Larry D. Pyeatt                 The views expressed here are not
Internet : pyeatt@texaco.com    those of my employer or of anyone
Voice    : (713) 975-4056       that I know of with the possible
                                exception of myself.
From: craig@adikia.sccsi.com (Craig Groeschel)
Newsgroups: houston.general
Subject: Re: hey
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 19:58:32 CST
Organization: Craig Groeschel's system, Houston, TX

bert@medley.ssdl.com (Bert Medley) writes:
> zatar@dadstoy.gbdata.com (Terry Stockdale) writes:
> > Personally, I'd rather see houston.bbs.ads, since that would keep it out
> > of houston.general, and also keep it out of my "join" file.
> > 
> 
> Good idea.  How do we go about creating such a creature?

I probably should not even say this, but here goes anyway:
If a group for bbs ads is going to be created, how about
houston.ads.bbs, or even just houston.ads?

I think we're opening up a can of worms here....Don't the existing
bbs newsgroups and the Atomic Cafe's list provide an adequate forum?
--
"Do not play this piece fast. It is never right to play Ragtime fast." Joplin
Newsgroups: houston.general
From: mbundy@tghost.gbdata.com (M.B. Bundy)
Subject: Lunch Bunch
Organization: TimeGhost Systems
Distribution: houston
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:19:26 GMT

I realize this is not alot of notice but would anyone be interested in a
Lunch Bunch this Saturday (12/19) at the usual place?

Place:  Two Peso's @ Kirby & SW Freeway
 Time:  1pm (?)

Michael
-- 
Michael Bundy                                            Houston, TX
mbundy@tghost.gbdata.com                                (713)933-3640
Newsgroups: houston.general
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Lunch Bunch
Summary: It just *had* to be...
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: houston
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:30:01 GMT

In article <BzFqM5.5GE@rice.edu> sbyrnes@rice.edu (Steven Byrnes) writes:
>On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:19:26 GMT, M.B. Bundy said:
>
>> I realize this is not alot of notice but would anyone be interested in a
>> Lunch Bunch this Saturday (12/19) at the usual place?
>
>I'm all for it.  Alas, I may or may not be able to make it, but there's a
>fairly good chance I could.
>
>I was going to post something on this very subject at the beginning of the
>week but, unfortunately, I was very busy with the end of semester rush...
>(But I'm feel muuuch better now... :)

You would have to pick the day (and almost the hour) we have to head out to
Hobby to retrieve my wife's 17-year-old daughter...all right.  Stop
drooling...:-) 

--PLH, not ready to be a grandfather yet -- I'm not even 38, for cryin' out
loud... 


-- 

Newsgroups: houston.general
From: sbyrnes@rice.edu (Steven Byrnes)
Subject: Re: Lunch Bunch
Reply-To: sbyrnes@rice.edu (Steven Byrnes)
Organization: Locutus
Distribution: houston
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:20:28 GMT

On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:19:26 GMT, M.B. Bundy said:

> I realize this is not alot of notice but would anyone be interested in a
> Lunch Bunch this Saturday (12/19) at the usual place?

I'm all for it.  Alas, I may or may not be able to make it, but there's a
fairly good chance I could.

I was going to post something on this very subject at the beginning of the
week but, unfortunately, I was very busy with the end of semester rush...
(But I'm feel muuuch better now... :)

Steven
From: dct@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David C. Tuttle)
Newsgroups: houston.general
Subject: Re: Idea
Date: 12 Dec 1992 00:25:35 GMT

rene@rice.edu (Rene G. Rodriguez) writes:

>|> Seriously, though, doesn't this distribe sound like it was written by
>|> a 16 year old HS dropout? Grammar, man, grammar. Nobody takes to
>|> youseriously if you mispel and use the run on sentence that got no
>|> punctution.

>Well, your grammar and spelling also leave something to be desired. Granted,
>though, that yours is an informal text and the original was a "manifesto."

Sound like the last sentence ("Nobody takes youseriously...") should
have been Closed Captioned for the Humor Impaired.

>I think I've seen far too many responses dealing with the _author_  instead
>of the _contents_ of the posting. Ad hominem attacks are bogus...

Is it just me, or do the two parts of Rene's response seem as odds
with each other?


--
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University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center         (713) 792-2606
Mail Stop 237, 1515 Holcombe Boulevard, Houston, TX  77030-4096
Today's anagram of "David Charles Tuttle" is:  SCUTTLED HATED RIVAL
Newsgroups: houston.general
From: conor@owlnet.rice.edu (Conor Frederick Prischmann)
Subject: Re: Idea
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:32:00 GMT

In article <Bz44zH.4HH@rice.edu> rene@rice.edu (Rene G. Rodriguez) writes:
>
>I think I've seen far too many responses dealing with the _author_  instead
>of the _contents_ of the posting. Ad hominem attacks are bogus. It would be
>more enlightening if you exposed the flaws in the original document.

Well, that's probably because the flaws are so numerous and obvious.  It
would take days just to point out all of them.



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