HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jbiafra@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ding a Ding Dang My Ding a Long Ling Long)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Seattle's Willy Wonka Psychic Psyrcus
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:26:07 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

Put on by Reactor clothing and all, not a bad one.  
right across the street from the seattle art museum helped make it easy to find.
Talked a bit with DJ RIZ beforehand at Reactor while they were off printing more tickets up.  

Unfortunately, I locked my keys in my car, and we spent b/w 2am-5am trying to break into my car.  I finally borke down and called a tow truck, but we got it open 5 minutes later so I zipped away and parked a block away.  yeah, take that, I'm not gonna pay $30 for you to break into my car...

Anyways, 2 rooms, 1 rave, 1 70's/hip hop/house.  Both good.

I found out something fun.  Take a Highliter pen with ya and start drawing on yourself and anyone who comes close.  Lotsa larfs and sex.
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: techno equipment
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:11:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:06:51 GMT

Uno, dues, tres, quattro.

"Numbers", I believe. If it wasn't a Speak N' Spell it was a damn good
imitation.
--
xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: I just picked up two new Aphex Twin albums (nifty!)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:13:57 GMT

In article <26JAN199323391785@rosie.uh.edu> st1pk@rosie.uh.edu (Lord of Newbies
) writes:
>    Okay...on todays quest for good muzic, I picked up two untitled
>records. One with a red lable and the other blue. I havent heard of any of
>the songs on these albums. I have the Xylem Tube Ep ,Diggeridoo (sp?),
>and the Ambient works and they are not on any of these three.
>    The songs are really acid like..plenty of flange and really fast
>bpms. Does anyone know of these two albums?

These are called the Universal Indicator EP's.
Lable is correctly spelled "label" if I'm not mistaken
I really like your .signature

Mike
-- 
                                                            Mike Brown
_  _ _____________________________________I think, therefore I ambient
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Underworld? (was: Suggested 12"'s)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:47:57 GMT
Organization: Mr. Lazlo's Temple Of The Mighty Rude-Boy Skank
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: triton.unm.edu

f1sami@uta.fi (Samu Mielonen) writes:

> Underworld - Mmmm... Skyscraper I Love You (Boys Own)

I suppose there's no chance at all this is the Underworld that used to
be Freur?  As in, "Doot-Doot," "Change The Weather" . . . ?

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Subject: review - 68000 "technocolor"
Reply-To: jondr@sco.com
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:00:22 GMT


68000 - "Technocolor"
PulseSoniq SR9221

M21 / Mind Machine / i/o / Technohead (down in it) / Funky Twisted
Sound / Vivid / Juno Echo / Data Cloud 9 / Technocolor / Benzine /
"Life" / Technohead (life mix) / Technohead (smart edit) / M21 (galaxy
surprize) / Analogics (pure analog edit)

I don't know what to make of this disc.  It seems to sit uncomfortably
at the intersection of industrial and techno.  The lame vocoded lyrics
that pop up now and then wouldn't be out of home on a Front Line
Assembly record, and there are some nice bleepy sounds which could
come from the better parts of X102's "Rings Of Saturn" disc.  But
overall, it doesn't really seem energetic enough for techno (despite
most of the songs being over 130 BPM), and the key signatures are
usual minor enough to make it seem sort of industrial.  The drum
tracks are industrial-rigid instead of techno-funky.

Overall it reminds me a lot of the current Intermix album, which is
similarly schizoid.  Also, they both owe a heavy debt to the belgian
Praga Khan/Oliver Adams/Jade 4 U sound.  I have a feeling that there
is an audience out there for this disc, somewhere.  Maybe it'll play
better on the East Coast.

Jon's fave tracks: "Vivid" and "Data Cloud 9".
-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live faust, die jung, leave it to Beaver.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: Re: Review:  Polygon Window
Organization: guru's ambient noise bunker, Coventry University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:11:19 GMT

In article <3F4yXB2w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> kellyd@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David Kelly) writes:
>
>'Quino-phec' closes it off with a rather beatless track..  Not really 
>much to say about this one..  I think I would've liked it a bit more if 
>there were a bit more to it..

guru sez:
	I only bought the album a few days ago, but it's not been far from
	my ears in all that time. So much to hear, particularly on the old
	Walkman.

	I'd disagree about "Quino-phec", though. This track is gorgeous-
	crank it up loud and lie back, it'll peel the top of your head off
	and rearrange whatever's inside. Pure electronic music, I love it.
	I'm looking forward to hearing it whilst stoned :-).

>Overall, this is something that anyone who has any interest in The Aphex 
>Twin should have NOW..

	The man speaks truth, kids.
	
	This is the first AT I've really heard, and I'm mightily impressed,
	particularly since RDJ is normally sold as being hyper-ambient.

	A lot of the album reminds me a lot of LFO, and when I first listened
	to it, I thought "this is a real Warp album".

	Buy it and love it. 
-- 
      /~~~) /   / /~~~) /   /  	A dangerous subversive cruising on the razor's	
     (___/ (___/ /     (___/ 	edge of reality, moving faster than the speed 
        /                      	of thought, ready to challenge your ideals, 
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk   morals and way of life. Listen if you dare...
From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: looking for
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:07:19 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.

In article <1993Jan27.211343.10491@markv.com>, jay@markv.com (Jay Skeer) writes:
|> wwc56110@eng-nxt14.cso.uiuc.edu (Walter Wai-hung Chiu) sEd:
|> >In article <1993Jan27.050036.20308@athena.mit.edu> cyrano@athena.mit.edu  
|> >(Spaceman Spiff) writes:
|> >> a compilation with 'o fortuna' on it....can anyone offer some  
|> >> suggestions....
|> >You can try _RAVE 'TIL DAWN_.
|> 
|> i sEcond thE rEcomEndation.  if 'o fortuna' movEs you, chEck out thEsE
|> othEr (as i call thEm) opEra-housE toonz
|> 
|> o bombrada, by ?
|> o solE mio (with caruso!), by ? (on tEchno traX vol fivE (siX?))
|> 
|> though its not quitE what i would call opEra-housE you might try 'thE
|> stylEphonE' by two littlE boys.
|> 
|> ((i think) i know of onE othEr, but i can't think of it's namE right
|> now.  doEs 'o fortuna' samplE carmEnia bharan (sp!)?  if not thErE is
|> anothEr which doEs.)
|> 
|> anyonE ElsE with morE info rE thEsE toonz?  anyonE ElsE likE, or havE
|> any opEra-housE to sugEst?
|> 
|> j'

	Two little boys is possibly THE WORST 'rave' track of them all ....
How is it Opera House ?? (I'm curios , not flaming !)

Anyway , don't you think your type face is a little sill-E :-)
-- 


Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , Group Software Engineering and Development
(Disclaimer : I once met a lawyer in a pub .... )
From: cdimick@javelin.sim.es.com (Clint Dimick)
Subject: Re: techno equipment
Reply-To: cdimick@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:42:38 GMT

   One of Kraftwerk's songs opened with the four or five "boot" sounds
that the Speak 'n' Spell made.  I think it was "Pocket Calculator," or some
such title.

-- 
"Major corporations make decisions that lead people   | Clint Dimick = cdimick@
 to adopt harmful products, such as alcohol, tobacco, | javelin.sim.es.com = I
 and sugar-coated cereals." - _Human_Societies_ 6thed.| speak for myself, thank
 Your average overpriced, opinionated college text.   | you. Wow: 801-288-0887!
From: casspa@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Paul Cass)
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: Research on plantation forests
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:45:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantis.cs.orst.edu

I am looking for comments, bibliographies, experts, datasets, or case
histories on tree plantations on degraded land in developing countries.
I am particularly interested in the social and environmental impacts of
exotics e.g. acacia or eucalypts.  I am operating under the assumption
that both damages and benefits have been experienced, and that the 
effects are usually site-specific.

The paper I'm preparing is only about tree plantations on degraded land,
where native forests have not existed for sometime, although facts about
intentional replacement of native forests with plantations would be
useful.
Paul

-- 
                          * * * * * * *
"It is possible to join forces, to identify common goals, and to agree on
 common action." - U.N. World Commission on Development and Environment
		       casspa@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
From: jhaskett@well.sf.ca.us (Jonathan David Haskett)
Subject: Historical references on Agricultural sustainability
Summary: Looking for historical analysis of why some Ag. syst fail others work
Keywords: Soil Irrigation
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:01:16 GMT


I am examining what makes some agricultural systems sustainable
 and others not so. In this regard I am interested in historical references
 which deal with certain examples. Specifically in the failure catagory:
 1) The collapse of Mesopitamian agriculture due to erosion and
      salinization.
 2) The deforestation of he middle east and degradation of agricultural
      land.
 3) The failure of early southwest Native American agricultural systems.
 And in the success catagory:
 1) I have "Farmers of 40 Centuries", but any additional references on
     historical Chinese agricultre would be welcome.
 2) Discussions of the success of slash and burn agriculture, and its
      its evolution as the period between burns becomes shorter.
 3) References to other notably successful agricutlural systems, which
     have persisted for long periods.
 I was hoping that a compreshensive general historical work of the
 nature of McNeil's "Plagues and Peoples" had been written on this
 subject but I have not come across it. Of course a reference to such a
 work would be greatly appreciated.
 Responses can be sent directly to me are greatly apprecieated.
 Thank you , J.H.

--------------------------------------------
*  Jonthan Haskett
*  jhaskett@asrr.arsusda.gov
---------------------------------------------
I am examining what makes some agricultural systems sustainable
 and others not so. In this regard I am interested in historical references
 which deal with certain examples. Specifically in the failure catagory:
 1) The collapse of Mesopitamian agriculture due to erosion and
      salinization.
 2) The deforestation of he middle east and degradation of agricultural
      land.
 3) The failure of early southwest Native American agricultural systems.
 And in the success catagory:
 1) I have "Farmers of 40 Centuries", but any additional references on
     historical Chinese agricultre would be welcome.
 2) Discussions of the success of slash and burn agriculture, and its
      its evolution as the period between burns becomes shorter.
 3) References to other notably successful agricutlural systems, which
     have persisted for long periods.
 I was hoping that a compreshensive general historical work of the
 nature of McNeil's "Plagues and Peoples" had been written on this
 subject but I have not come across it. Of course a reference to such a
 work would be greatly appreciated.

 Responses can be sent directly to me are greatly apprecieated.
 Thank you , J.H.

--------------------------------------------
*  Jonthan Haskett
*  jhaskett@asrr.arsusda.gov
---------------------------------------------
From: listona@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Aaron Liston)
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: Re: Please identify.
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:26:50 GMT
Organization: Biological Computing Consortium, OSU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ava.bcc.orst.edu

In article <1993Jan27.082230.6110@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (Ian Staples) writes:
>In article <728012669snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au> gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick) writes:
>>Anyone out there please identify for me a fragrant Chinese climber, I
>>understand similar to honeysuckle, whose name translated from the Pin
>>Yin is "Cordate Telosma"?
>>
>For what it's worth, there is one _Telosma_  mentioned in the USDA's 
>"A Checklist of Names for 3,000 Vascular Plants of Economic Importance"
>(Terrell, Edward E. (1977) Agriculture Handbook No. 505.  ARS/USDA Washington)
>This is _T._africanum_ (Asclepiadaceae).  Common name "colville".
>
>*However*, Willis "A Dictionary of the Flowering Plants and Ferns"
>refers to "coville" under _Telosma_ (7th edition - which lists 10 spp.
>from the old world tropics; c.f. the 6th edition which only lists "1 Guam"
>[but also refers to "coville" NOT the USDA's "colville"]).
>
>Cheers,  Ian S.
>-- 
>Ian Staples                       | Internet : ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au
>c/- P.O. Box 1054,                | Fax      : +61 (0)70 923 593
>MAREEBA  Queensland  4880         | Voice    : +61 (0)70 921 555
>Australia.                        | Home     : +61 (0)70 924 847

Frederick Vernon Coville (1867-1937) is the botanist who first
named and described the genus Telosma.
                              ^^^^^^^                             
Coville or Colville are NOT common names of this genus!

The genus is a member of the Asclepiadaceae (=Milkweed Family).

Telosma cordata is a "liane with roots, leaves, and flowers
^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
locally eaten"   

cf. D.J. Mabberley (1987) The plant book: a portable dictionary
of the higher plants.  Cambridge University Press.  706 pp.
ISBN 0-521-34060-8

From the dust jacket:
"The book is a comprehensive portable dictionary of flowering
plants, including conifers and their allies, with their common
names and uses.  It is an attempt to fill the gap formerly
occupied by the early editions of Willis' dictionary of the
flowering plants and ferns and is largely set out on the lines of
that work, though with more references and common names, the
whole being arranged accoridng to Cronquist's system.  The book
will be of value to botanists, zoologists, gardeners, foresters,
agriculturists, anthropologists and all those journalists and
other writers who need a handy reference work on plants."

Highly recommended!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Aaron Liston                                    E-mail: LISTONA@BCC.ORST.EDU
Department of Botany and Plant Pathology        Tel: 503 737 5301
Oregon State University                         Fax: 503 737 3573
Corvallis, OR 97331-2902
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture,misc.rural
From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Subject: Re: Subsistance farming parameters
Followup-To: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:46:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.183341.1452@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> 
swardwel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Stephanie  Wardwell) writes:
>
>I am working on developing a plan for a sustainable subsistence farm in
>central Pennsylvania.  What I need to find out from you folks is any
>reference works (or just flat out advice) to help me determine acreage and
>crop requirements for a family of 6-8, two horses, a cow, several cats, a
>lot of chickens and maybe a pig.  Any advice is gratefully welcome, either
>on the list or via e-mail.
>
>Thank you in advance!
>
>Stephanie Wardwell
>swardwel@mail.sas.upenn.edu
>
I would think you could get by with only ten acres and get by comfortably
with twenty. Raising adequate grain, hay, vegetables, fruit, etc. is more
a matter of farming methods than it is quantity of land. Farm organically.
Pennsylvania (and Virginia) is loaded with expertise, organic fartilizers
and natural soil amendments.

Necessary Trading Co.
New Castle, Virginia

Biodynamic Farming Assn.
Kimberton, Pa.

Erth-Rite organic fertilizers
Gap, Pa.

Fertrell organic fertilizers
Bainbridge, Pa.

Rodale Farm
[Organic Gardening and New Farm magazines]
Rodale Research Institute 
Emmaeus, Pa.

I am sending you by e-mail a list of text files available
by FTP or e-mail from sunSITE.unc.edu containing reference material
that will likely be useful to you. Some of the misc.rural and rec.gardens
FAQ's as well as various sustainable agriculture documents should be
looked at. Let me know if you want any of them sent to you.

Lawrence
london@sunsite.unc.edu
From: ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (Ian Staples)
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: Re: Please identify.
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:22:30 GMT
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries

In article <728012669snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au> gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick) writes:
>Anyone out there please identify for me a fragrant Chinese climber, I
>understand similar to honeysuckle, whose name translated from the Pin
>Yin is "Cordate Telosma"?
>
For what it's worth, there is one _Telosma_  mentioned in the USDA's 
"A Checklist of Names for 3,000 Vascular Plants of Economic Importance"
(Terrell, Edward E. (1977) Agriculture Handbook No. 505.  ARS/USDA Washington)
This is _T._africanum_ (Asclepiadaceae).  Common name "colville".

*However*, Willis "A Dictionary of the Flowering Plants and Ferns"
refers to "coville" under _Telosma_ (7th edition - which lists 10 spp.
from the old world tropics; c.f. the 6th edition which only lists "1 Guam"
[but also refers to "coville" NOT the USDA's "colville"]).

Cheers,  Ian S.



-- 
Ian Staples                       | Internet : ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au
c/- P.O. Box 1054,                | Fax      : +61 (0)70 923 593
MAREEBA  Queensland  4880         | Voice    : +61 (0)70 921 555
Australia.                        | Home     : +61 (0)70 924 847
From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: BEN # 44
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:23:22 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

Article 835 of bionet.plants:
From: swardwel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Stephanie  Wardwell)
Subject: Subsistance farming parameters
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:33:41 GMT


I am working on developing a plan for a sustainable subsistence farm in
central Pennsylvania.  What I need to find out from you folks is any
reference works (or just flat out advice) to help me determine acreage and
crop requirements for a family of 6-8, two horses, a cow, several cats, a
lot of chickens and maybe a pig.  Any advice is gratefully welcome, either
on the list or via e-mail.

Thank you in advance!

Stephanie Wardwell
swardwel@mail.sas.upenn.edu
From: barb@meaddata.com (Barb Bruns)
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: Subsistance farming parameters
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:20:35 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: moe.meaddata.com

A major consideration in determining how much acreage you'll need (and if you
already own the horses, you know this) is whether you plan to graze the horses
or keep them inside and feed hay and grain.  Two horses can destroy 5 acres
pretty quickly in spring in Pennsylvania.
-- 
Barbara Bruns                Technical Communications & Education
Mead Data Central                               barb@meaddata.com
P.O. Box 933                              ...!uunet!meaddata!barb
Dayton, OH 45401
                        The opinions expressed here by me are not
                        necessarily those of Mead Data Central;
			nor would they much care about the things
			about which I have opinions.
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Subject: Sustainable agriculture, Denmark (fwd. from SANET-MG)
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:24:15 GMT

From ERIC.REGOUIN@pfw.agro.nl Mon Jan 25 21:19:49 1993
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 08:48 MET
From: "Vakdeskundige Gewasbescherming, IKC-AT Afd. Fruitteelt"
 <ERIC.REGOUIN@pfw.agro.nl>
Subject: Groups to meet in Denmark
To: sanet-mg@oes.orst.edu

We are planning a study tour of Denmark in June and are interested in meeting
people concernend with pesticide issues and integrated/alternative/organic
farming in that country.
We are a group of pest management specialists of the Netherlands Ministry of
Agriculture.
Who has suggestions on whom to contact ?
Thank you in advance,

Eric JM Regouin

regouin@pfw.agro.nl
From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Subject: BEN # 43
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:44:39 GMT

Article 834 of bionet.plants:
From: gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: Please identify.
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:44:29 GMT
Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents

Anyone out there please identify for me a fragrant Chinese climber, I
understand similar to honeysuckle, whose name translated from the Pin
Yin is "Cordate Telosma"?

My wife tells me that in China her father used to pluck the flowers to
add fresh to their rice porridge, and she would like me to plant some
for her here in Australia.

Thanks,

Gil
From: 5546yuj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: Dynamic Spead Reading
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:33:13 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5546yuj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsf.csd.mu.edu

you write:
>The class I took was about 15-20 hrs of class time. Cost was about $400.
>
>I feel that it was well worth the time and money.  If you are time and money 
>conscience, you can learn the same techniques through a number of books on the
>market.  
>   

Would you please name a few of these books?
Thanks.

jy mu
From: dont@klic.rain.com (Don taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Any suggestions on how to get drive and motivation back?
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:06:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: KLIC

Long work project had great difficulties.  Work afterwords did not help much.
Since it seems that I just can't get back the drive to throw myself into things
and get things done and I am stuck in a rut.  I want to find a way to get out.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Please reply by email if possible.

Thanks
Don Taylor
503-235-6853
dont@klic.rain.com
dont@pdaxs.techbook.com