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From: ctorres@juliet.caltech.edu (Torres, Chon D.)
Subject: Re: Pailhead - What's available?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:53:00 GMT

In article <891034d.24@ace.acadiau.ca>, 891034d@ace.acadiau.ca (PETER F. DEARMAN) writes...
>Can anyone tell me what's available by Pailhead and who distributes it?

Basically a CD with six songs. It's on Wax Trax (or whatever that is now).
The six songs are also split up into vinyl singles (3 of them i think).
It's OK, just another Al rehash project, but i like it.
-chon


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From: vinson@shiva.seas.upenn.edu (Jack Vinson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: stage diving
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:39:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Pennsylvania

arthur william bohren writes this
>Against: The Violent Femmes(they walked off stage due to it)
>         The Pixies
>         Social Distortion
>
>For:     Too Much Joy(their dummer dived a number of times)
>         Fishbone
>         Body Count(guessing from the video for There Goes the Neighborhood)
>

I'm not sure whether I like it or not.  I don't mind 12 year-old kids who
weigh 98 pounds, but guys who are upwards of 200 pounds diving and
"swimming" gets a little rediculous.  (I could move away from the stage,
NOT!)

Anywow, Consolidated make a point of telling the audience they will stop
playing if they begin hurting each other.  The Ramones don't mind anything
during their hour and a half shows, unless you actually touch one of them.
I've seen a couple bloody noses at their shows....   The Butthole Surferes
seem to like active audiences.

Jack Vinson			The Purple Puddle Eater
vinson@shiva.seas.upenn.edu
vinson@unagi.cis.upenn.edu
From: cs421olek@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (NEUMANN)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: more boston bands
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:41:00 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University - Computer Science Dept
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <rrbv9INN3u3@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM writes...
>ok ok so i left out some other boston bands, give me a break!!
> 
>just looking to get some of the boston bands i like that don't get
>the flipping press they should. yes yes i know the pixies are from 
>boston. more bands to check out====>
> 
>THE MIGHTY MIGHTY BOSSTONES
>THINKTREE
>DOGZILLA
>GANG GREEN
>MISSION OF BURMA
> 
>as i said before
> 
>HERETIX
>O-POSTIVE
>TRIBE
> 
>just go and buy the cd's, let the music do the talking!!
> 
>also, i **still** think the seattle sound sucks!! 
> 
>john            "my life is a big blur of fire and ice" 
>oneil


How about BIM SKALA BIM.

Dave
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cmp@caen.engin.umich.edu (Chris Pirich)
Subject: Re: Toad the Wet Sprocket
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 03:05:22 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Apr14.040257.14822@midway.uchicago.edu> dunl@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Apparently Toad played a free "show" at Looney-T-Bird's Record Store in 
>Oxford, OH before their Cincinnati show (they also made an appearance on
>radio FM 97.7 WOXY 97X). Anyone know if they play record store/promo-type
>free thangs often? They done it elsewhere? Anything on tape?
>
>Man, I wish i coulda been there.....
>
>-dunl@midway.uchicago.edu

Yeah - I saw them at Tower Records here in Ann Arbor,MI last week.  All acoustic
- very impressive.  Acoustic as in no mics, amps (except bass)  Wish I could've
seen their actual show, though...

Chris Pirich.
From: gregg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Gregg Kenausis)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Cure Laserlight Shows
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:42:41 GMT
Reply-To: gregg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Gregg Kenausis)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: gregg@dopey.cc.utexas.edu

Last night on 120 Minutes, the ever so charming host mentioned that
there will be a series of laserlight shows at planetariums around
the U.S. sometime this weekend.  The implication was that this was 
a one time engagement and that tickets could only be obtained through
radio station promotions. 

What's the story here?  Does anyone have any information?
Specifically, are there going to be any shows in the Austin/San Antonio
area?

Glancing back at my posting, I realize that I was not perfectly clear
regarding the content of these shows.  Apparently, these shows will be 
sneak prelistens (or whatever the equivalent to sneak previews is) of 
`Wish , the new Cure album.

Thanks in advance.
						Gregg
.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Best Pogues? Most Erotic Alternative Music?
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 04:03:25 GMT

dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Butler) writes:

>2) What would be the most *erotic* alternative music I could find (note, I
>   don't mean "I fucked her brains out", I mean a little more erotic, a sexual
>   rhythm and lyrics, not just crude lyrics put to the same old shit. In other
>   words, I'm sort of looking for the alternative music equivalent of blues 
>   (yeah, that's it!)

This may sound odd, but I really like _CD1_ by Throbbing Gristle.
Beautiful and primal at the same time.  One track, 45 minutes.  No lyrics,
but some amazing sounds.
-- 
=========*davE*.....making the world safe for intelligent dance music.=========
As you're cleaning the orange carpet, you will hear a voice that says, "Fetch 
my cigarettes."  Another voice will say, "THEY'RE ON TOP OF THE REFRIGERATOR."
--(David Vessell)--(Bradley University Computing Services)-(dave@bradley.edu)--
From: dchou@husc8.harvard.edu (David Chou)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS INFO DESPERATELY NEEDED!!!!
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:56:42 GMT

Hello Folx.  I need just a bit of info...I'm trying to write a review
for Apollo 18, but my editor very intelligently didn't get the press
release for it, and doesn't know anything about the band.  I know
a bit about it, but not enough to know who sings most of the lead
vocals:  John Linnell or John Flansburgh.  I guess what would be
more helpful would be to be able to distinguish the two voices from
each other...one has a distinctly more nasal timbre to his voice.
Who would that be?  The lead singer?  Is there a "lead singer"?
Thanks for the info.

							-Dave
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: splatt@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: NEW MODEL ARMY
Organization: Clark University
Date: 15 APR 92 02:41:27 GMT

Justan Sullivan, front man for the ARMY, put out and album with Joolz, any word on it?, I think it's called wierd system.  New live video also released. any fans get in touch.
splatt@Clark EDU
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: modester@IASTATE.EDU (Matthew R Hodges)
Subject: The Cure (mailing list) 
Keywords: subscribers
Reply-To: modester@IASTATE.EDU (Matthew R Hodges)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:34:45 GMT



  Due to problems with the server the moderated Cure digest has not been issued
for a week now, but the problem is now corrected.  If you have not received a
digested version by now you will need to resubscribe.  To do so send a message
to:
   
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and that is all.

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If you are not subscribed to either and wish to be, the address for the
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a help request to the respective lists.

sorry for the inconvenience (or welcome to the list)

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From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Musical Intelligence (Was:  Alternative radio stations)
Date: 5 Apr 92 21:08:47 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1992Apr2.040109.7311@csccat.cs.com> larry@csccat.cs.com (Larry Spence) writes:

(in response to article <1992Apr1.191845.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> where
kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
  [a well-thought out  piece about how/why a person listens to music
  and basing one's aesthetic on one's purpose]
)

>I have to admit, that was one of the better April Fool's posts I've seen 
>so far today.  

Whether or not you agree with kzimmerman, to disparage a whole line of
thought while added absolutely no reasoning is (literally) mindless.

If you have any reasons for your disagreement with kz's post, I would
be glad to hear them. I do not like mindless putting down of others.

Thank you,
Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
           "Always remember the last words of my grandfather.
            He said, `a truck.' "            --  Emo Philips
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com
Subject: Identify this song! HELP!
Reply-To: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM PSP Palo Alto, Ca.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 20:51:28 GMT

In college, I was in a punk/post-punk band for a while. The
guys would give me a tape with no label or anything of
songs to learn. There are a few I'd like to know the titles
and artists of in case I can find the albums.

1. Medium tempo, kind of sounds like Hoodoo Gurus but more 60's.

   Lyrics go

   "What did you have in mind
    While I was falling apart?
    Would you pick up the pieces and start all over again?
    You know where dreams like that will take you.
    In any event, it makes no difference now.

    This is for the times you told me everything would go wrong.
    This for the way you put me, back where I belong, where I belong."

   The band's name may have had the word "Dumptruck" in it. Dunno.

2. Another song I know was called "Deja Vu" but I can't remember the
   lyrics. Some lines were:

    "you made a mark on me"
    "mountains fell out of the sky" (I think)
    "Ya got nothin left to lose, you're livin in a deja vu"

    Faster song, BTW.


If I think of anymore, I may ask. Thanks in advance.


We also played a lot of Husker Du and Hoodoo Gurus, but I've
got those :).


THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
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	"We're just a Bob Seger cover band."
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From: bperegoy@zardoz.East.Sun.COM (Bill Peregoy - Hardware)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Kendra Smith (was Re: Opal (Was: mazzy star info desired)
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:37:33 GMT
Reply-To: bperegoy@zardoz.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. - BDC
NNTP-Posting-Host: zardoz.east.sun.com

>Does anyone know other things Kendra Smith has been involved in and/or
>what she's doing now? 
>
>Will Mazzy Star *ever* release another album? 
>
>Vickie                        "There is a road straight to my heart" HR
>katefans@chinet.chi.il.us     ______

A couple of years ago, I talked to Steve Wynn (of the Dream Syndicate).  Kendra
was the original bass player for the Dream Syndicate.  Acording to Steve, she is
living somewhere in Northen California on a farm with her boyfriend.  She's doing
nothing musical these days.  At that time, Steve was trying to get her to come out
of "musical retirement" to do a record which he would produce.  I guess that's not going
to happen.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: adamkp@aix.rpi.edu (Peter Adamkovics)
Subject: Nirvana's Japanese Import CD
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:55:56 GMT

I just saw a Nirvana CD in the record store that was imported from Japan. It
had songs on it which were NOT on 'Nevermind' and I dont think they're on
Bleach either, but I was really stupid, and forgot to check.  The clerk at the
store says that these are songs recorded during the making of nevermind, but
which weren't released.  Is this true?  If so are the songs/CD worth the $26
that they're charging for this import?  It's too bad all imports are so expensive, and the domestic cds are too much too now that I think about it, but I guess
thats what supply and demand is all about :-)  If anyone has the info, please 
post, or e-mail if you want.  Thanks.

--pete--



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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.music.industrial
From: mepstein@csws15.ic.sunysb.edu (Not On Our Customer File)
Subject: kill
Summary: kill
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:23:46 GMT

this has nothing to do with music but hey too bad
sorry if this annoys you but here goes
I need a list of funny reasons to kill someone
this is just a joke for someone who wanted me to
make a list of reasons to kill someone else
anyway email me please
mepstein@ic.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Chagall Guevara.
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason steiner)
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:07:58 EST

sbb1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Shay B. Berthelson) writes:
: I really like this group chagall guevara.  and hve followed some
: of it's players for a while.  Steve Taylor who has several other
: obscure albums out is one of my favorites.
: does any one have any info on chagall, such as concert or other  
: potential albums.  

i don't know about any future albums, but the last song on the Pump Up The
Volume soundtrack was by Chagall Guevara.

: Shay B
: sbb1@ra.msstate.edu

jason
steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu
"This country ain't got no problems a few plastic explosives won't cure!"
	-Steve Taylor, i PREDiCT 1990
From: perbe@ida.liu.se (Per Bergman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Cure In Sweden/Europe?
Keywords: Cure
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:53:32 GMT
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden

Where and when is The Cure going on tour in Europe (Sweden)?



Please send a mail to perbe@ida.liu.se.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: aschi@silver.lcs.mit.edu (quick as rainbows)
Subject: Re: Poster Children  /  if you like PIXIES you'll LOVE these guys
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:22:21 GMT

It's _Flower PLower_ as in something that plows flowers... I've noticed that
that's how it is on the albums and t-shirts and according to the band, but
your mind expects to see _Flower Power_ so that's what it sees... Ignoring 
the L. But you may have to look under _Flower Power_ in things like the 
Phonolog, as they havi it listed incorrectly...

--aschi

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: codrus@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Ian McCloghrie)
Subject: Re: Gothic Music, Sisters... Alt.Gothic.
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:43:49 GMT

In <mcdonghj.702809820@unix2.tcd.ie> mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....) writes:

>Sisters, Neph, Bauhaus etc..
>Please remember there is a newsgroup specially for these bands.

	There is??? <excited exploration of trying to add newsgroup>.
Feh.  They don't carry it.

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From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: New Beasties album? when? good? opinions? comparisons?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rap,rec.music.misc
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:02:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.124915.12274@cs.dal.ca> graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:
>I love Paul's Boutique.
>I heard the Beasties on the radio rapping over the drum sample for Zep's
>"When the Levee Breaks" - I liked that.

   Well, there are actually TWO songs that sample "Levee",
       1) "Rhymin' and Stealin" from _Licensed_to_Ill_
           contains a PHAT fat Black Sabbath guitar sample
       2) "Pass the mic" the new one (though it is overdubbed a lot more)

>
>So tell about this album/cd!!  I haven't heard anything about it. How does
>it compare to Paul;s Boutique.

  It isn't out yet.  It WILL be out April 21st (If Capitol didn't lie)
   Though I have heard "Pass the Mic", "Professor Booty", and "Time for
     livin'" (a Frontline punk cover) which will be on the album.

   It is definitely going to be NOISY!  Pass the mic brings back the furor
    of old style songs like "Rhymin and Stealin" and (should I mention it?
    ......OH! All right, I will..) "Fight for your Right,..." but STILL
   dominantly carrying it in the raw sampladelic style of Paul's Boutique.

   It may not be as tranquil as times as _paul's_boutique_ is, but I'm
   sure all Beastieheads will like it,...... hopefully.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: eno@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benedict Dugan)
Subject: Re: stage diving
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 22:11:52 GMT


The Meatpuppets seem to like an active audience.  In fact, at the end of the
last show I was at (in San Francisco), the Kirkwood brothers, after doing a
few dives of their own,  chucked the rather annoying bouncer into the pit, 
which sort of made my evening...

Ben
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: nirvana
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason steiner)
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:40:19 EST

hnb5164@tamuts.tamu.edu (Heather Noel Bobbie) writes:
: i was in the supermarket yesterday, and you won't believe
: what i saw......
: 
: kurdt of nirvana  on the cover of SASSY magazine!!!
: 
: now if he's not comfortable with being in the mainstream,
: what's he doing on the cover of a "hip" teen mag?

SASSY is a bit more than your average "hip" mag. at any rate they cover a lot
of alternative bands & have ads for places that sell Docs, etc. not very popular
with the average teenybopper crowd. jah, jah, i know. is all the same to the
coolest of cool who populate this group. supposedly Kurt & Courtney both like
the mag. i for one was happy to see my younger sis reading SASSY instead of 
some of the other complete trash. warms a brothers heart to see a sibling get
into Pixies & Social Distortion & listening to college radio.

: kissing courtney of hole, i might add.
: i don't understand.

well, they -are- getting married. 

: heathernoel
: sans sig pour le moment
--
     Democrat: 	Give us your money. We'll solve your problems.
   Republican: 	Give us your money. We'll pretend your problems don't exist.
  Libertarian: 	Here's your money. Solve your own shpxvat problems.
  -- Vote Libertarian '92 -- jason steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu --
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: ACID TEST and the Highway 61 soundtrack
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:52:23 GMT
Organization: UB


	Do these people have an album?  they sound SOOO funky (especially the
tune "Mr. Skin" that CFNY ALWAYS has on yet to me isn't played yet) and I
wouldn't mind getting more of the same


-- 
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From: ez003338@rocky.ucdavis.edu (Tara)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Weird Al does Nirvana
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:39:25 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Apr15.203605.6198@watdragon.waterloo.edu> dlerickson@violet.waterloo.edu (Doreen Erickson) writes:
>In article <0dv4eSO00WCZIMV2IM@andrew.cmu.edu> jp5d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeffrey Roger Parenti) writes:
>>i heard "smells like rice krispies"
>>as well.  does anyone know the artist?
>
>Check out a somber version, song by a singer in a very serious tone
>with piano background, really emphasizes the lyrics!

Could this be Tori Amos?  I've heard *about* her version of "Smells..." but
haven't actually heard it yet.

-- 
 |Tara Marchand        |  "I am you,  |   "To live is to fly, low and high,   |
 |---------------------| and you are  |  So shake the dust off of your wings  |
 |---------------------|    not me."  |   And the sleep out of your eyes."    |
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey)
Subject: Re: Best Pogues? Most Erotic Alternative Music?
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:12:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.185451.3445@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Butler) writes:

>2) What would be the most *erotic* alternative music I could find

My recommendations:

Early Kate Bush: "The Kick Inside", "Lionheart", "Never For Ever";
also "The Sensual World".  For a totally different mood try "The
Dreaming", specially the song _Get Out of My House_ played real loud
(my all time favorite :-)

Almost anything by Dead Can Dance.

These may not be everybody's idea of *erotic*, but some recent
favorites of mine include Coil's _Love's Secret Domain_, and the KMFDM
song _Seig Seig_ played on repeat.

- V
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: c9111456@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (The business man who's master plan controls the world each day is blind to indications of his species slow decay)
Subject: Re: Australian bands
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:55:50 GMT

In article <fink2.703371977@alcor>, fink2@alcor.concordia.ca (Gemini) writes:
> s34037k@saha.hut.fi (Marko M{kynen) writes:
> 
>>What's happening down there,any new good bands?
> 
> I don't know about new bands, but the ones I know about are Hoodoo Gurus and
> Midnight Oil. 

 You must be joking......
These bands are commercial rock bands not 'alternative bands'

Yarmin.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: the BATS are NEW ZEALANDERS!
From: Voodoo@kcbbs.gen.nz (Clarke Anderson)
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:57:15 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

quote thang:
user. To all Australians and others--what can you tell me     
about THE BATS? Have they ever toured? Will they tour (the US
------------------------------------------end quote---------------------------
---

ummm, guess what?

if this group, The Bats, is the same one i'm thinking of, then you'lll 
 find that they'e from New Zealand, not poxy old Aussie.
Same with the StraightJacket fits, who seem to be holding their own 
in the melody maker these days...