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From: misra@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Boo!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Final note....?
Date: 8 Apr 1992 23:57:50 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

In article <YdsqaXa00awB4_DFFt@andrew.cmu.edu> rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh) writes:
>If my postings are so offensive,  just think how thousands
>of SL Tamils felt after IPKF turned the guns on them.

	Maybe if LTTE had gotten their act togeather then things would be fine.
Your attempt to paint this sick demented group as some sort of a 
great freedom movement is crazy. If the LTTE wants to fight in SL, it is 
their business, but they should leave TN out of it. Their actions in TN
only goes to show the sick type of people they are. 

>And what they proceeded to do. It's a big tragedy. But, what me and

	Yes it is a big tragedy, India should have just left the whole
thing alone. Perhaps then there would be no one to complain.

>quite a few other SL Tamils are fired up about is most Indians'
>reluctance or their deniability in India's responsibilty in the whole
>affair.  Why? 

	Probably because there is nothing to be responsible about. There 
were indian lives lost as well. I dont see where the responsibility comes
in.  The only thing India should be responsible for are the indian lives
lost, that is all.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mmc@po.CWRU.Edu (Manish M. Chokshi)
Subject: distribution:oh, test
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 21:22:32 GMT


-- 
Manish M. Chokshi			Email: mmc@po.cwru.edu
Phase II Medical Student		Voice: 216-791-8815
Case Western Reserve University
__________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: sbarrkum@engws5.ic.sunysb.edu (Se kumarakulasinghe)
Subject: Re: Bride wanted
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:58:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.001920.3024@athena.cs.uga.edu> abbasi@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Sarmad Abbasi) writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.030936.13131@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> p2018756@cumulus.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Chetan) writes:
>>Looking for a Bride:
>>
>>Masters in Compter Science and BE in Electrical Engineering with a very
>>good academic background and vivacius personality is looking for a well-
>>educated, broad-minded girl. Caste no bar. Please email:
>>
>>	p2018756@cumulus.csd.unsw.oz.au

>	I know that arranged marriages are a part of the societey of
>sub-continent. But no one appreciates you looking for a bride on the 
>net like you are looking for a PC.
>
>Abbasi.

Definitely not limited to sub-continent. Try reading alt.personals. 
There you would find requests for people who love torture etc.

What is in question as to whether this was the appropriate news group.
Why not soc.cul.taiwan etc.

Barr Kum
From: rao@parikalpik.eas.asu.edu (Subbarao Kambhampati)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: LOVE Marriages & ARRANGED Marriages: A Comparison
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:46:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Arizona State University, Tempe

In article <1992Apr17.121324.19392@doug.cae.wisc.edu> balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman) writes:
>
> Mr Sira, you seem to have and undeniable propensity to speak in riddles.
>Care to explain what you intended to say....'bout this " BLOT IN INDIAN
>CULTURE " ...
>
>PB

Mr. Prabhu, it seems somewhat funny that *you*, of all the people,
should ask others to *explain* what they intended to say, that all you
have done in the past gazillion or so posts of yours in this thread is
just to hurl a rhetorical comeback of the type "Oh, you seem to know
it all, huh!".

Perhaps it would help if it is known what your position (or the lack
thereof) is in this regard. For example, when someone makes a
statistically valid generalization of the Indian arranged marriage
system, and you come back with your patented "care to explain where
you got the numbers from", is your motivation:

(a) one of standing in the way of any sort of statistical
generalization being applied to individual people OR

(b) one of trying to refute that such a generalization has no
statistical truth at all (i.e., trying to imply that *most* (by
numbers) arranged marriages are NOT in fact arranged by parents in 3-4
weeks time, or that most of them are NOT in fact arranged through
photograph exchange and selection sort algorithm).

If the former, perhaps you would show your righteous anger when people
try to white wash AM system (just as much as you show it when they try
to malign it). 

If the latter, then perhaps, you could provide us with some statistics
as to why *you* believe what you believe.

If none of the above, then perhaps you can illuminate us on what it is
you *do* have in mind. 

Any such clarification will certainly strengthen your locus-standi
in demanding clarifications/explanations from others.

Rao
[Apr 17, 1992]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ssr39687@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Indiana Jones )
Subject: Re: Indian English
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:33:35 GMT

bkannan@HO12.ENG.UA.EDU (Balaji Kannan) writes:


>From: vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat)
>Subject: Indian English
>Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:31:01 GMT

>>  "Issac New Ton is great scientist. In India, apple falls on head and he go 
>>back to invent Gravity. He is friend and follower of Mahatma Gandhi in fight 
>>for freedom.There is a statue to him with long coat and long hair. He great
>> man.
> 
>>And the cow one :
>>  "A cow has 2 horns with sharp points and Bull between tham. It has 4 legs and
>>stands on its own feet". It ended with a touch of logic, "A cow gives milk
>>which we drink. Therefore, it is our mother."


>    How about these? 
>   
>    "You three, both of you kneel down together separately"

>    "There is no wind in the ball (deflated football)"

>    "Run with the fence" (alongside)

>    "Look at the line on your back" (falling in line)

>    "Apply Apply, No reply" (common one)

>    "Why aren't you kneel downing?"
>      
>      ...................................

>    I sometimes feel that it is the P.T. Masters (Instructors?) that
>    have contributed in great measure to "Indian English " 

>    Balaji Kannan

-------
	Boy, this stuff made me laugh like mad!! (Folks who know me can attest
					 	  to this)
			

	Speaking of P.T. Masters' English, here's a gem from the guy at my
	school in Delhi.

	He came into my class and wanted the guys on the soccer team to go
	the field. So he said, "All the playboys, go to the playground!!!"

	Enjoy,

	Suresh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz)
Subject: Divorce primer
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:24:30 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                         Copyright 1992 Southam Inc.
                             The Gazette (Montreal)

                     March  23, 1992, Monday, FINAL EDITION
Divorce primer

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Here are some tips from divorce lawyers Suzanne-Helene Pringle, Raymonde
LaSalle and Micheline Parizeau.

   1. If you're thinking of getting married, see a lawyer. Many of the disputes
that crop up during the divorce can be ironed out before the wedding.

   2. Establish a career and life of your own so that if you have to go it
alone, you can.

   3.If you're thinking of getting a divorce, be sure reconciliation is out of
the question.

   4. Once you've decided on divorce, see a psychologist to help you and your
children through the emotional turmoil of the breakup.

   5.Take the time to let emotions cool. A good settlement takes patience.

   6. Give your lawyer the maximum possible information on your husband's
financial situation as well as your own.

   7.Prepare a history of our marriage, including finances and the behavior of
you and your spouse.

   8.Put off divorce or separation until you can get a job and live on your own.

   9. Make a will.

   10. Keep a daily budget so that your request for child support will be
realistic and cannot be disputed.

   11. Know the settlement you want and make your lawyer work for you. Do not
let your lawyer make your decisions for you.
============================================================================
Sylvia D. D'Cruz                                
Mead Data Central                               Systems & Product Technology
Bldg. VI, 9595 Springboro Pike                          udcrusd@meaddata.com
Miamisburg, Ohio 45342                                        (513) 865-6800   
                                               
============================================================================
From: sekar@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sekar Thiagarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: CN Travels of LA/ Reliability Info Requested
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:34:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr10.183408.20428
Reply-To: sekar@u.washington.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

How reliable is CN Travels of Artesia(LA)?

Any good or bad review would be appreciated.

Thanks/sridhar

please mail responses marked "For Sridhar" to sekar@hardy.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mn5y@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Mukund  Nori)
Subject: Travel Agents
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 20:30:36 GMT

I realize that this has probably been asked several times before.  I do not
read this network regularly anymore due to time constraints.  Hence, I would
appreciate it greatly if some knowledgeable person/people would kindly e-mail
me names and phone numbers of good travel agents.  I would like to go home
to India in July for as little as possible, leaving me more to spend on gifts
and there.  Thanks in advance.
Take care

--
 ******************************************************************
 ___Raistlin___  			Mukund Nori
 Raistlin@Virginia.EDU			mn5y@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU
      "VIOLENCE IS THE LAST RESORT OF THE INCOMPETENT" Asimov 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath Sira G)
Subject: Re: LOVE Marriages & ARRANGED Marriages: A Comparison
Keywords: Romance, Dowry, Male chauvinism, commercialization.
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:04:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.034157.7463@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> svenkata@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sundaresan Venkatachalam) writes:
>
>     With a lot of discussion going on about the above topic. I thought I 
>could try to list some dis/advantages of the two here:
>
>Advantages  of Love Marriages:
.
.
.
[stuff deleted]
>
>Disadvantages:
>     You do not get any dowry....or  in a more sophisticated manner: you do nt
>get nice gifts from the brides side. You cannot blame you parents on any
>problems/failures.....ie you cannot be a parasite  and expect your parents to
>get the w2hole job done. You cannot expect a  social status in your
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>caste/tribe/group/clan/village/town/colony.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

I feel that at least in the class of society I (and most of the netters in 
the group, I'm sure) come from, i.e. the urban middle class, you can retain 
your social status if you are an economic super-power. This class has become 
decadent and would accept anything that suits its economic interests. And yet,
it wants to parade itself as the sole protector of "morals" and
"culture" of the society.


[stuff deleted]
>
>-regards,
>sundaresan (svenkata@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)

Regards,

Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath.
(sgs@ucs.usl.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Re: Advise for the Tamil net
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:47:15 GMT

I do not see anything wrong in a new soc.culture.tamil to discuss
cultural issues, literature, magazines, movies etc. Being "for"
such a newsgroup does not automatically mean being "against"
unity of india, "soc.culture.indian" or anything else. I believe
that many of the problems of India result from repressive
policies that force "unity" down peoples throats, not allowing
the diverse people of our country to truly enjoy that freedom
and "unity in diversity". - Ganesh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: orath@supernet.dallas.haus.com (Omkar Rath)
Subject: Re: Indian Men, Arranged Marriages : A NEGLECTED POINT
Organization: Harris Adacom Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:23:07 GMT

dkulkarn@vivaldi.helios.nd.edu (Dinesh Kulkarni) writes:


> A point that is OFTEN forgotten -

>Given the choice, most guys would like to choose their partners outside
>of the institution of arranged marriage. However, the extremely skewed
>sex ratio (40:1 should not be an exaggeration) among "Indian born and 
>brought-up Indians" in US precludes the possibility of the "preferred" way
>of finding your partner. I guess you won't find it hard to understand 
>that people (guys and girls) have strong preferences in terms of language,
>dietary preferences (e.g. vegetarian) and other such "not-so-trivial"
>matters. These preferences further limit the possibilities. Back in India,

This is very typical of us Indians (men & women alike), isn't it?

>                                                            -------------
>arranged marriage is still the norm and that hardly helps. So it is
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>not so much family pressure or traditional outlook that makes guys opt
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>for arranged marriages as it is the lack of other options. It is certainly
>---------------------------------------------------------
>possible to be a maverick but few people would want to jump through a
>thousand hoops or be willing to make unnecessary compromises to get
> what they want. So until our society at large (at
>least the urban part) doesn't make a transition, it is unreasonable to
>expect arranged marriages to go away, even in case of Indians who come
>to US.

Agree!

>About the ranting on the net - most people seem to go on a bashing spree
>just for the heck of it. None of them has a solution that is likely to
>work and very few care about a solution anyway.           

Boy, u really hit the Bull's eye.  Wish there were more like u on the net.
-- 
Omkar Rath
Harris Adacom Corp.
16001 Dallas Pkwy
Dallas, TX 75248
From: dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: More GUJJU jokes
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:27:53 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR


Q.	What did the Gujju say of Gavaskar?
A.	He is a master-bater!

(this is not a gujju joke)

Q.	What's better than roses on your piano?
A.	Tulips on your organ!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Green card interview at Bombay consulate.
Supersedes: <92103.165953io80448@maine.maine.edu>
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 22:14:52 EDT
From: Chandu Bhavsar <io80448@maine.maine.edu>

   I've a question to people who know about history of green card
interviews at Bombay consulate.

   After having labor certification, and I-140 approved; have you
heard of any case of green card rejection on any basis? Possible
reason for rejection could be, convertion to H-1 visa from a B-1
visa, or any other that may come to your mind. If you've heard of
any rejections, please send me a mail including the reason of
rejection. If there's enough interest, I'll post a summary of the
responses afterwards. Thanks.

Chandu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: patelsa1@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES.........
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:50:42 GMT

In article <sdr750W00VpgA4Ll9v@andrew.cmu.edu>, ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Asad Iqbal) writes:
> WHAT"S A GUJJU
> ME

"Gujju" means the people from the state of gujarat, and I heard that they are 
the most intelligent people from India. It seems true to me because most of 
people like to make fun of great people or person in this world (By reffering 
the joks)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Your Friendly Neigbourhood  SHIV  SAINIK
Subject: SOC.CULTURE.MARATHI : Calling for Discussion
Originator: dalalv@dolphin.ECE.ORST.EDU
Keywords:  Maharashtrian, marathi, tamilian
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:39:03 GMT

  Calling for votes for the formation of soc.culture.marathi

   since we are having discussions for the formation of soc.culture.tamil, why
   not have the same for soc.culture.marathi.

   soc.culture.marathi will represent maharashtrians all over the world and not
   just the state of maharashtra. everybody is welcome to post to scm, yes
   even tamilians!!   

   Maharashtrians will now have the chance to share their sentiments freely
   on scm, without inviting flames from non-maharashtrians.

          JAI  SHIVAJI !!     JAI  MAHARASHTRA !!

   For further information call  1-800-SIV-SENA

   truly,
   your friendly neigbourhood  Shiv Sainik


PS:  If this works out , we could also form  SOC.CULTURE.BOMBAY  and maybe
     even SOC.CULTURE.BOMBAY.GIRGAUM and so on .....
     The potential is endless!!
From: yamajala@meis.enet.dec.com (RAMANI YAMAJALA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Yet another Matrimonial - looking for a male
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:02:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


This is for a friend of mine:

Looking for a highly qualified South Indian bridegroom, needs to be 35 - 40
yrs. of age. The girl has a PhD in Computer Science and a green card. 

Send me e-mail.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: raj@quartzite.cs.odu.edu (M.P. Krishna Raj)
Subject: TAMIL NEW YEAR. putthandu valthukkal
Originator: raj@quartzite.ocean.odu.edu
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:59:06 GMT


Happy NEW YEAR .PUTTANDU VALTTHUKKAL
From: An Indian Woman of the 90's
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:31:39 GMT
Reply-To: soc.culture.indian
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science

I have read many debates on the net reg.
arranged vs love marriage and was amused that
Indian students are wasting their time debating
on this, when they don't practice it (love m'ge) at all.

I find 99% of Indian men still tied to MAMA's
pallu, in other words, they DO NOT DARE to choose
their own life partner. They might freak out here
with Indian girls ( if they find someone) and with
American girls too. But finally, when it comes to
marriage, they run back home to choose possibly the
prettiest of the living dolls they see in the numerous
living rooms they visit and marry her in a couple of days.

I can attribute a couple of reasons for this:

1. These guys don't like independent women as they prefer
   DOMINATING over some docile creature who will have no
   alternative but to tag with their whims and fancies.

2. They are  terrified of the prospect of having to convince
   their parents about their choice since most parents find some
   objection to anybody their children choose in this manner.

There is also the category who are really "TOO SHY" to even
interact with girls, whose handicap I can understand but
the others, why are you bothering to give lame excuses for
preferring arranged marriages ( as some of u have done).

Hope all of you agree with me, atleast at heart.

From

An Indian Independent woman.

					
					-New User (newuser@cc.gatech.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bharat@88opensi.88open.ORG (Bharat Kurani)
Subject: Software India'92 organised by Indian Consulate.
Organization: 88open Consortium Ltd., San Jose
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:01:39 GMT
Keywords: Indian Consulate of San Francisco.

Indian Consulate at San Francisco is organising

Software India'92 on Tuesday, april 14, 1992

at

Red Lion Hotel
2050 Gateway Place
San Jose CA 95512

---------------


There will be indian computer companies. The idea is to
court American companies to start business in india.

For further information contact Indian Consulate at San Francisco

415 668 0727 / 415 668 0967

 Bharat Kurani				Phone: 408-436-6608
 88open Consortium, Ltd.		Fax:   408-436-0725
 100 Homeland Court, Suite 800		email uunet!88opensi!bharat
 San Jose, CA 95112
From: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian achievement
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:13:39 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr11.071508.27480@news.Hawaii.Edu> vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>
>
>What makes the news somewhat relevant in this news group is that _three_ of the
>five researchers are of _Indian_ origin. Some of you may remember that
>Sanjeev Arora, one of the five scientists, was the topper of JEE-1984 (?)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                                                   ^^^^

He was the topper of JEE 1986. Joined IITK and then took a transfer to some
US university, MIT I think.

>(Joint Entrance Examination - for admission to the five IITs in India). Some
>of you may even know Madhu Sudan (from Vizag) personally.

Wasn't he in IITD CS '87 batch?

Cheers,
-Prince

pkohli@cc.gatech.edu      | "What's so unpleasant about getting drunk?" 
Distributed Systems Group,| "Ask a glass of water."   Hitchhikers'....
College of Computing, Georgia Tech.
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Final note....?
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:35:13 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <YdsqaXa00awB4_DFFt@andrew.cmu.edu> rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh) writes:
>If my postings are so offensive,  just think how thousands
>of SL Tamils felt after IPKF turned the guns on them.
>And what they proceeded to do. It's a big tragedy. But, what me and
>quite a few other SL Tamils are fired up about is most Indians'
>reluctance or their deniability in India's responsibilty in the whole
>affair.  Why? 
>Till then its a burning issue for many.... Or is it that one politician's life
>is far valuable than a few thousands?  Is that the prevailing attitude?

You misunderstand the indian psyche! We do not place a high value
on our politicians. But we place a high premium on the life of
a person holding the office of the prime minister or president.

You see! it is symbolism. You can have a monkey there! It will still
have a high value for us! 

Actually you should be fed up more.
Our Jayalalitha will ensure that you are fed up!
Terrorists or their apologists have to meet their legitimate
fate!
...kt
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14617 soc.culture.pakistan:6625 soc.culture.bangladesh:2487
From: budaraju@cae.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: III: Conflict: Causes: Police Brutality
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:07:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr16.110756.20144
Distribution: na
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison

In article <sien0INNhmn@sam.ksu.ksu.edu> misra@sam.ksu.ksu.edu (Boo!) writes:

>	Oh..my.. goodness, the PAC is UP was charged with such actions but 
>then and Independent council was set up to look into the matter and found
>that there was no such basis for such accusations.

Care to provide some references for this? While you are at it, please
give us some numbers on how many Hindus and Muslims were killed by the PAC.

>	Police does not have the right to be brutal, but there are times
>when it has to. There is nothing you can do about it. And dont give me 
		 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Speak for yourself!

-Srinivas				budaraju@cae.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: lakshman@ms.uky.edu (Lakshman)
Subject: SOC.CULTURE.kannada, hindi, sanskrit, prakrith
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:06:55 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

Why  not! If you can   have SCT, how could you forget the other languages!
come  on , give me a break!
- Lakshman

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan