HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gk5g+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Gary Keim)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Print from "help" on PS printer?
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:23:13 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from misc: 11-Dec-92 Re: Print from "help" on PS.. =>
Info-Andrew@andrew.cm (1058+0)

> *.previewcommand: ezprint -q -t /tmp/%s.n | eqn -Tpsc | psroff -t >
> /tmp/%s.ps; ghostview /tmp/%s.ps; rm /tmp/%s.ps

> In your case, add this line to your preferences file:

> *.printcommand: ezprint -q -t /tmp/%s.n | eqn -Tpsc | troff -Tpsc |
> psdit | lpr -Ppsb115


My previous message was .... incorrect.  The basic idea is this: before
being passed off to the various mumblecommands, the source file is first
converted to troff (possibly with embedded Postscript) and place in
/tmp/%s.n, where %s is filename minus the extension.  So, you start with
troff.

My previewcommand:

previewcommand: cat /tmp/%s.n | eqn | psroff -t | ghostview -; rm /tmp/%s.n

Your formatcommand:

formatcommand: cat /tmp/%s.n | eqn -Tpsc | psdit | lpr -Ppsb115; rm /tmp/%s.n

Gary Keim
Andrew Consortium
From: efroyman@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Ella Froyman)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: AFS vs NFS vs DCE
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:15:22 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University


Hi folks;


Can anybody point out to me the differnces between AFS vs OSF's DCE.
What is AFS? what are the differences between AFS vs NFS. On what
platform does AFS run? How do Implement? How much does it cost?
Ella
From: cruthird@park.bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: HIPS vs KHOROS and image "history"
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:14:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42130


I am comparing KHOROS and HIPS (developed at NYU I believe).  A professor of
mine touts HIPS, mainly because he has used it for years, but also because it
stores the entire "history" of whatever operations have been performed on an
image or dataset, in the form of a list of commands and parameters. The user
always knows how he/she arrived at the current image.  This seems like a
reasonable and useful feature to me.

I have looked at KHOROS a fair bit, and it seems that such information could
be stored in the "tags" data area of the viff data structure, but can KHOROS
be easily configured so that such information is always stored for all images
which pass through a sequence of transformations/routines?

More generally, is there any documents discussing KHOROS vs HIPS?

Thanks.
From: sauer@chama.eece.unm.edu (Tom Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Porting Khoros to DEC OSF or open VMS architectures?
Date: 9 Dec 92 15:28:41 GMT

On Dec 3, 19:35, Joan Muggleton, CSC, MS219-1, 415-604-3909 wrote:
} Subject: Porting Khoros to DEC OSF or open VMS architectures?
>> Are there any plans to port Khoros to DEC OSF/1 for Alpha or open VMS
>> AXP in the future? Since we hear Ultrix will be replaced with above,
>> we'd like to know if Khoros will be able to run on the new machines
>> and operating systems.

Yes, but the port will be for Khoros 2.0. Khoros 2.0 will be available
in the late summer of 1993.


>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joan Muggleton 
}-- End of excerpt from Joan Muggleton, CSC, MS219-1, 415-604-3909

Tom

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber)
Subject: Re: Self-describing files (KHOROS mailing)
Organization: Lab for Hydrospheric Processes
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:05:08 GMT

In article <42200@pprg.eece.unm.edu.pprg.unm.edu>, huffman@donna.gsfc.nasa.gov (George Huffman) writes:
|> Brian - following up on our conversation, and this mail, the main barrier to
|> doing more with HDF from the Khoros viewpoint is time and $$$.  If the
|> Consortium members make it a priority it will happen; if not, it's a nice
|> idea that will accidently get done if it's easy or someone in the "community"
|> does it.  I'd guess that an interface to HDF isn't real hard for a hard-
|> core Khoros programmer, but otherwise, wading through the code would be
|> challenging.  
|> 
|> I wouldn't discount a "translator" approach; the data connections between
|> khoros programs can be implemented either as files (the default) or
|> through shared memory (mapped memory? it's the choice other than
|> "file" when you click on a connection in cantata).  So, the
|> translation program can be viewed as getting the data into memory with
|> minimal overhead for translating the header.
|> 
|> On the other hand, I exactly agree that Khoros will be more attractive
|> to NASA projects if HDF is "supported".  
|> 
|> George Huffman
|> 
|> 

|> doing more with HDF from the Khoros viewpoint is time and $$$
...is an obvious issue, but is the group aware enough as to the size of
EOS and what direct support for its 'favorite son' will mean to KHOROS?

Translators are nice and necessary but whenever I try to say to someone,
"well, we can always translate it" I get looks that I don't approve of.
I'm actually working with someone here in translating datasets. Its a fine
thing but I want the Khoros applications to work with HDF data transparently.
Even the SDSs....actually, ESPECIALLY the SDSs.

--Brian
From: fitz@ipld01.hac.com (Melissa T. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: stings as expression variables
Date: 19 Dec 92 01:19:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42258


I would like to use the Expression utility to designate a filename
with a long path to a variable, since this filename is used in many
different places in a large workspace.  I would like to use the
format

	name = /very/long/and/a/pain/to/type/filename

in the expression glyph so I can use $name in later glyphs.

Is this possible?

Thanks in advance for any recommendations/solutions.

tay
hughes missile systems company
canoga park, ca 
fitz@ipld01.hac.com
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: vdp@mayo.edu (Vinayak Dutt)
Subject: Re: postscript output of cantata
Reply-To: vdp@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation/Mayo Graduate School :Rochester, MN
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:37:45 GMT

In article 42199@pprg.eece.unm.edu.pprg.unm.edu, V G Prakash <vprakash@cs.ulowell.edu> writes:
:
:1.Postscript of the program.
:
:	I wanted to get a postscript (color) output of the cantata workspace (only)
:with network of glyphs. Does khoros have a routine to do this?
:	If it is not available (which is most likely, since I searched it) it 
:might worthwhile to be added in the new version. 
:

On Sun Workstations, you can use program snapshot (in Openwindows) to grab whole
screen or a part of it, and save it as rasterfile, or postscript. I guess, even MIT X11
has something similar for grabbing screens (xwd ??) ....

:2. Label to Glyph
:
:	 In the present version, there is no facility for a user defined label to
:glyph. It is necessary to have this feature especially in large programs.  
:I know there is comment glyph, which is not what I wanted. 
:Can this be implemented in future versions?

I guess, you can hack the *.pane file to change the label (?) ... But again a user
can not do that, only the person who maintains the code (one with the write
permissions to the files :-) can ....


---
-------------------------------------------------------
                                           vinayak dutt
                                   e-mail: vdp@mayo.edu
-------------------------------------------------------
From: Peter.Averkamp@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Averkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re:  Creating a toolbox
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:54:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42183

> I am trying to creat a toolbox and someone deleted the file 
> $KHOROS_HOME/repos/config/toolbox/toolbox.tar
> How can I do it with out it or where do I get it.

It appears as if the file toolbox.tar hasn't been deleted, but the README
file in $KHOROS_HOME/repos/config/toolbox/ is just incorrect. toolbox.tar
is located in $KHOROS_HOME/toolbox/.

\Peter

Peter Averkamp,                      | email:
Physics Department E20               | petav@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de
Techn. Univ. of Munich               | Phone: ++49 (89) 3209-2408 and -2814
D-8046 Garching, Germany             | Fax:   ++49 (89) 3209-2338
From: errico@staff.tc.umn.edu (Mario Errico)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Using a MacII as X-term. for Khoros
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:46:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42137

Hello khorosers,

Im am running Mac-X 1.2 to use my Mac IIci as an X-terminal in order to run 
cantata on a SUN Sparc (4c) and display on the Mac.  I tried to modify the 
.Xdefauls file to reduce the default size of cantata workspace to fit it in the 
roughly 620x480 Mac screen: it seems that below about 600x450 the workspace size
stay the same.  Please help!  Also, how can I easily shrink subforms too big to 
fit in the Mac screen (I want to be able to switch from normal size to shrunk 
size, since I also run cantata at the SUN console).

Thanks in advance

Mario



Mario Errico, Research Associate
Real-Time Imaging
Center for Interfacial Engineering
University of Minnesota
Minneapolis
From: cfeng@stat.wisc.edu (Chenggao Feng)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: drop me from the mail list
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:45:06 GMT

Please drop me from the Khoros mail-list.
From: PETERSJL@p3.ams.wpafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: xprism3
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:03:04 GMT


                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     18-Dec-1992 09:46am EST
                                        From:     Jennifer L. Peters
                                                  PETERSJL
                                        Dept:     ASD/ SCSA
                                        Tel No:   255-2715

TO:  Remote Addressee                     ( _DDN[KHOROS@CHAMA.EECE.UNM.EDU] )


Subject: xprism3





To the Khoros crew:

I'm using xprism2 and xprism3 on a Sun4.  I recently set up a separate user 
account (where the data lives) and set the PATH, KHOROS_HOME, etc. so xprism2 
runs fine.  However, xprism3 will not run with command line option.  I get a 
"segmentation fault (core dump)" error.

If I say "xprism3" I can set everything up with the buttons.

If I say 
"xprism3 -i11 file -rows11 120 -np1"
I get the error.

I've checked everything at least twice.  Have you got any ideas of what's 
making it act like this?
From: jogl@numenor.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: wanted: (pseudo)color _L_U_T_ (LookUpTable)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 12:47:02 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
NNTP-Posting-Host: numenor.imsd.rwth-aachen.de



hi,
 
the "Subject:"-line say's it all. we are about to test some
(pseudo)color LookUpTables for grey-scale images (12Bit/Pixel or
256 Grey-Scales) and like to collect some.

any kind of point to books and reviews are also wellcome!
                    ~~~~~~~   ~~~~~~~~~
we primary use the KHOROS-Software, but LUTs in ANY format
(e.g. PBMPlus) are o.k.

any idea/help for us ? 
-- 
  ___             _________________________________________
 /  /  _____     !    jogl@tolkien.imsd.rwth-aachen.de     !
 __/__/_/ Gl     ! Inst. f. med.Inform. & Biometrie (IMIB) !
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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: marshall@ll.mit.edu (Hunter Marshall)
Subject: kfread performance
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:18:05 -0500

I'm taking a performance hit when I use kfread. 

While I might expect some
loss, this seems a bit much.  I hope to do this in K2 (I want to pipe-
line data thru several worksatations), I have to get some timings now
to gauge computational load. 

When the file structure is totally unknown,
I can use readheader() to fill an xvimage struct, then step my way thru
the data with kfread(). Should I be doing something else? (block_read(),
or raw_read()?) Is there a better way to do this? A parameter I can tweak? 

Here is the prof dump for kfread

 %time  cumsecs  #call  ms/call  name
  34.1     0.60                  _cherk_
  20.5     0.96   2001     0.18  _read
  10.2     1.14                  _ctrsm_
   4.0     1.21                  __Fc_div
   4.0     1.28                  _cdotc_
   4.0     1.35                  _cgemv_
   3.4     1.41                  _cpotf2_


Here is the prof dump for fread

 %time  cumsecs  #call  ms/call  name
  41.5     0.59                  _cherk_
   9.9     0.73                  _ctrsm_
   7.0     0.83                  __Fc_div
   7.0     0.93     80     1.25  _read
   6.3     1.02                  __Fc_ne
   4.2     1.08                  _cgemv_
   3.5     1.13                  _csscal_


FYI, SunOS 4.1.1 (Solaris who?), Sparc2, gcc 2.2.2, Sun f77 1.4,
pprg binaries, the routines (you see) are all lapack/blas 
(nudge nudge wink wink) except for the _read and that Fortran thing.

Question 2) If I do
	prompt% kcp -i BIG -o shm=100

how do I get rid of it?!?!?!? (Not that I ever did such a thing)

Hi guys :-)

	hunter
From: leyva@helios.ece.arizona.edu (Francisco A. Leyva)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Toolbox, need answers!
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:14:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42205


	Ok!

	So, I am doing something wrong, thanks to the people that pointed out that I
was doing something wrong. Now can some of those people that say they have installed lots of 
toolboxes tell me how do you do to install one.
	I was simply following the khoros manual on how to install a toolbox ( Vol. II pg. 1-45,
step 2 of I.3 CREATING A TOOLBOX, release 1.0).
	If something else is wrong let me know please.

Thank-you



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Francisco Argeo Leyva               *
                                    *  "A good programer allways
For present until 1994:             *     wears its 
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From: Peter.Averkamp@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Averkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re:  starting up with khoros
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:20:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42134

> I will be installing a new HP715/50 workstation with version 9.0 of HPs
> operating system.  I'm a novice to workstations in general, and my
> question is simply this:  Will khoros compile and operate OK on my
> workstation?

Yes. Konstantinos Konstaninides from HP has provided the necessary cookbook.
You can find it in the compile-FAQ on ftp.eece.unm.edu:/pub/khoros/release.

> I understand that someone has ported khoros to Macintosh.  From what
> machine on Internet can I download the Mac version?  [By the way, is
> the Mac version any good (i.e., relatively bug-free, fast, etc.)?]

The Mac port was a MacII running A/UX 2.0.1 using gcc-1.39 as C compiler.
To my knowledge, there are no mac binaries ftp-able. As for speed, don't
expect wonders on macs.


Peter Averkamp,                      | email:
Physics Department E20               | petav@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de
Techn. Univ. of Munich               | Phone: ++49 (89) 3209-2408 and -2814
D-8046 Garching, Germany             | Fax:   ++49 (89) 3209-2338
From: ph@physiology.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Haggard)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: FAQ suggestion
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:04:15 GMT
Organization: Physiology Department, Oxford University, Oxford, UK.
Originator: ph@galen.physiol


Hi khoros group!
I've noticed there still seem to be a lot of posts coming up on the
group which are basically FAQs.  This means that lots of bandwidth
gets wasted on the net, and, more important, the khoros group have to
answer lots of stuff when they really want to forge ahead so as 
get khoros2 finished and delivered to users a.s.a.p   [ 8-) ]

I think this is partly because the FAQ is not immediately visible
on pprg.eece.unm.edu.  You have to change into various directories
etc.  

May I suggest that the FAQ documents be placed in the /pub/khoros
directory.  I feel that putting README.first documents in /pub
and /pub/khoros, and using the ftp banner messages would also be
worthwhile.  These messages/files could also point users to the
FAQs.  If users can get those initial leads straight away, then
they won't use the group so much to ask things they can find in the
FAQ. 

What do you think?
From: Peter.Averkamp@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Averkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re:  problem with cantata colors
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:02:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42132

> Since there is no port of Khoros for VMS and we have no root-access to
> the HP's, we have installed Khoros (1.0 PL 5) on the SparcStation, wanting

You don't need root access to use khoros, but enough disk space.

> to use it from all machines in the network by telnet-ing to the Sparc and
> setting the display to the local Machine.
> 
> Everything works fine, except of one:
> The connction-lines between the glyphs are displayed black on a black
> Background (as far as the VAXstations are concerned) or white on a white
> background (HP's), so you can't see them. So if the number of glyphs used
> grows, you become confused, let's say, you can't work at all. Invoking the
> routines from command line is not satisfactory and pleasant, too.
> 
> It seems that the cantata.LineColor and the cantata.CanvasColor entrys in
> the .Xdefaults file are ignored, although other entries are not. Changes
> of the two colors have no effect at all if you are telnet-ing, but have
> at the Sparc itself.

There isn't a problem with the cantata.LineColor and cantata.CanvasColor
resources, but you might check your procedure to set these; you have to
make shure to run something like 'xrdb -merge <your new Xdefaults>' after you
changed the the settings and before you start cantata. In general it will
be most convenient to source a script that loads different Xdefaults-files 
depending on your DISPLAY setting. Look in the directory $KHOROS_HOME/dotfiles
to find examples.


Hope this helps,

\Peter


Peter Averkamp,                      | email:
Physics Department E20               | petav@radon.e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de
Techn. Univ. of Munich               | Phone: ++49 (89) 3209-2408 and -2814
D-8046 Garching, Germany             | Fax:   ++49 (89) 3209-2338
From: arots@xebec.gsfc.nasa.gov (Arnold Rots)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re:  khoros on-line help
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:23:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42156

>  When I run run a khoros program such as edit image and I click on
> the help button I get a message stating that the help file was not
> found. How can I correct this problem?

Might the problem be that `customize' has not been run?

  - Arnold Rots
From: thompson@cu10.crl.aecl.ca (Michael Alan Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: More on SGI 4D/35TG Problem
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:04:31 GMT

In experimenting further with Editimage 
I discovered that if the image I am
editting is large enough that a Pan Icon 
window is popped up, the colours used are
correct when the mouse cursor is placed
within the Pan Icon window.  When this is
done the colours used are correct in both
the Pan Icon window and the Editimage window.
When the cursor is taken out of the Pan Icon
window, the colours become buggered up again
in both the Pan Icon window and the Editimage
window.  The Interactive LUT and PseudoColor
functions work OK when the image is viewed
with the cursor in the Pan Icon window.  Is
this enough information to go on to determine
the root of the problem and fix it or suggest
a kluge to get around it?  Anyone?
Thanks, Mike Thompson
** thompsonmike@crl.aecl.ca [Voice:(613)584-3311 X4043 Fax:(613)584-4269] **

Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: kelly@c3serve.c3.lanl.gov (Patrick M. Kelly)
Subject: Patched lvinsert () routine available
Originator: kelly@wienerdog.c3.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:59:28 GMT


Hi Everyone,
 
Khoros 1.5 has a small bug in the lvinsert () routine.  When inserting
BIT images into one another, it always inserts data on even byte boundaries.
I provided a fix for lvextract to fix a similar problem a while back.
 
The file lvinsert.new.c holds a modified lvinsert () routine which
correctly handles inserting BIT data into arbitrary positions in an image.
 
I would greatly appreciate it if you would let me know of any bugs
with my addition.
 
Of course, a standard disclaimer applies to this code.  Neither the 
author, the Government, nor the University of California makes any warranty, 
express or implied, or assumes any liability responsibility for the use of 
this software.
 
     Pat

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From: Ivan Vesely <vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: image warping
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:33:18 GMT

Hello,

Wejust got KHOROS installed and I'm trying to learn it.  The main  
purpose for getting it is for warping some images.

I constructed a flow diagram in cantata where I input two images, and  
pipe them into the warpimage routine.  When I try to run warpimage in  
interactive mode, it gets about halfway through loading and then  
quits giving me the following error message:

X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  72 (X_PutImage)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  0
  Resource id in failed request:  0x4400062
  Serial number of failed request:  511
  Current serial number in output stream:  515
Major X error encountered for display ':0.0'! Unable to recover.

This occurs only in the interactive warpimage routine.  Some of the  
others that I ran, such as displaying and rotating images work fine.

Any ideas?

---
Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics
University of Western Ontario,     vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca