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From: reimert@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert)
Subject: Re: Norton Desktop for Windows in OS/2?
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:12:12 GMT

In article <Bs3nsE.n2B@acsu.buffalo.edu> syeoh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Lam Yeoh) writes:
>Will Norton Desktop for Windows 2.0 work under OS/2?  Is there any point using
>it if we run PM?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Stephen
>-- 
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>
>psyeoh@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
>syeoh@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu

Sure, you can load NDW for WIN-OS2. Just start the WIN-OS2 window and run
the install from there. When you're through, you have to migrate it though.

One thing you *may* need to watch out for though is using an existing copy
from another partition. This is what happened to me: My OS/2 partition is
HPFS, and on the same 330MB drive I have a C: DOS partition, and a D: Windows
partition. OS/2 was able to "see" the D: partition, so I tried to migrate a
few applications on it for use in OS/2. I don't know exactly what happened,
but the next thing I knew, the entire D: partition was totally munged, but
only in areas where the migration occurred.

The lesson is (I think) to use only programs loaded onto the HPFS partition,
and not to try and "mix and match" between the two different file systems.

				Scott

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lemieux@eecg.toronto.edu (Guy Gerard Lemieux)
Subject: Re: "Bug" in Joel Armungaud's 800x600x256 driver - update
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:48:34 GMT

lemieux@eecg.toronto.edu (Guy Gerard Lemieux) writes:

>dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>>You've all heard the bug about dotted vertical and horizontal lines
>>appearing (and not always clearing) when popping up menus on the WPS
>>desktop.  Well, I've noticed that after installing a background bitmap
>>for the desktop, these lines don't appear.  

Oops, I just read the Subject: line and noticed that you were referring
to a possible bug in Armaungaud's driver.  I am using the ATI 800x600x16
driver, and have no problems with background bitmaps.

Guy
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: need more space:  HD or Bernoulli?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:13:11 GMT

I can't wait for Stacker to ship, running very low on space.  After
much research, I got info on the type of SCSI card I can use for my
Model P70.  Question is,  I can buy the "kit" from the mail order
place (213 MB Maxtor external) or buy just the card, cable and case
(which allows for two devices) and then buy an internal Bernoulli box
to fit in the case (provides 90 MB for each cartridge).  I realize
that most likely I can't get HPFS on the Bernoulli (since it would be
connected to a Future Domain card, not their own), but it does provide
expanded space.  

Decisions, decisions.  Do I buy the HD (I can always buy a Bernoulli
later for the second slot in the case) and get HPFS (and probable use
of Stacker/Os2 on it) or buy Bernoulli and never get HPFS and
Stacker/Os2?  I currently have a 120 MB disk with an OS/2 extended
partition (HPFS) taking up 90 MB of it.






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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why I don't like the new Orchid Pro (ET4000) drivers
From: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz (Lance Andrewes)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:20:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: none

reisert@mast.enet.dec.com writes
 in article <9207231807.AA04004@enet-gw.pa.dec.com>:
> 
> 1.  800x16 makes some of my icons invisible.
Don't have that problem.
>
> 2.  800x16 turns some colors on my desktop (like green) into gray.  Now I
>     have *fewer* than 16 colors! :-(
Colours looks better on my system than the previous 0.9beta release.
Green appears okay.
> 
> 3.  800x256 is still washed out (colors lighter than they should be).
Yes indeed.  Why is it so hard to get the palette right?
>
> 4.  800x256 driver is *still* too slow to use.
I consider the speed acceptable.  But sure, it would be better
if faster.
> 
> 5.  They take up too much disk space (approx 100K bytes more per file than
>     the old drivers).
If you are worried about 100K, I wonder if you should be running OS/2?
Sure, all the extra "100K's" add up, but a driver is pretty important.
>

I haven't tried the 1024x768 drivers, since my monitor isn't quite
up to it.  The 800x600 drivers "draw" much better than the previous
release - i.e. when I return to the desktop from WinOS2 or dos, the
screen is redrawn evenly, without coloured areas appearing first.

The larger icons and text don't look so good.  Diagonal lines in
icons are jagged at this size.

My system is a 20MHz 386SX, AMI BIOS, Swan Tseng4000 board (1MB),
8MB RAM.  Yeap, not an Orchid card.  So thanks Orchid - and keep
up the good work.
__
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: WINOS22.ZIP....how does one use it?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:36:13 GMT

I have acquired the WINOS22.ZIP file (a .DRV file) that allows you to make
Win3.1 look like OS/2 v2. But there is no documentation in the .ZIP file and I
don't know what to do with it.
 
Any suggestions/ideas? 
 
Steve

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withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            |  And the stars going round in 
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       |  my head." R. L. S.
From: laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Grrr...2.0 can't be "this" slow, can it????
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:19:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

At (primary) work, I have a network of OS/2 1.3 workstations
that are about to be switched to 2.0 (when I can replace LAN
Manager with LAN Server - one more week - tick TOCK!).

I just sold one system, a 486DX-33 with OS/2 2.0 on it to an
individual.  (OS/2 is now a condition of my consulting.)  It
ran, o.k., but certainly wasn't as crisp as 1.3.  Anywayz,
the client seems happy with it.

At work, however, I decided to install v2.0 on a standalone
386DX-25 today.  Mildly:  it sucks!  I've got 8MB, and it's
awful.  I'm running HPFS and all I see are disk accesses
when I do anything.  Win-OS2 is a snail.  DeScribe 3.0 drags
on and on.

Some of the workstations on the net are 386SX-20's.  I (quite
literally) shudder to think about how those will perform.

I've looked through the FAQ and tips files, but I don't see
anything of monumental help.

On the upside, I was helping a co-worker with his (personal)
Windows (3.1) workstation.  It's even worse.

I'd love to hear what I might be doing wrong.  Tomorrow I plan
to reinstall (and be sure to shutdown immediately), and try
reformatting with a fresh HPFS and, perhaps, (yech!) FAT
partitions.

Thanks for any help you have to offer!

--kyler
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: affie@earley.sns.neuphilologie.uni-tuebingen.de (Ralf Affie Hauser)
Subject: internet Number of FTP watson.ibm
Organization: sns
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:06:04 GMT

Hi,

I'm so awfully sorry but I have lost the internet number of the IBM FTP server
"software.watson.ibm.com" ?

Could anybody tell me the number. Thanks and sorry again.

	affie.
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ATI fixes WINOS2 problems with Wonder cards!
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:14:38 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <2177628@overmind.citadel> isgtec.com!ted@overmind.mind.org writes:
>The only noticeable change (other than the lack of problems) is that
>the drivers seem to take a little longer switching back to the WINOS2
>session.  NOTE: you may need to set VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION to ON in
>the WINOS2 session's DOS settings.  There is also a slight improvement
>in the 16-colour modes: the highlight bar is now blue instead of black,
>if anyone cares.

You do have to set VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION to ON.  Otherwise, your
display doesn't seem to repaint properly.  This was true with the
older Windows drivers, as well.

The hilight bar is much better than before.  The previous hi-color
driver had it white on light blue, making it nearly unreadable.  This
version has it black on blue, which is very nice.

BTW: You can change these colors and others by adding the following
entries to your win.ini file (under the [colors] section):

	ButtonFace=192 192 192
	ButtonShadow=128 128 127
	ButtonText=0 0 0
	GrayText=192 192 192
	Hilight=0 255 255
	HilightText=0 0 0
	InactiveTitleText=0 0 0
	ButtonHilight=255 255 255

The values are the way my Windows environment is configured.  They
represent levels of red, green, and blue, respectively.  They are not
available through the Control Panel.  Note that they were available on
Windows 3.0 this way as well.  Those with Windows 3.0 installations
can find these settings described in the winini?.txt files, in the
Windows directory.

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: PMWP.DLL -- which diskette?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:47:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <28JUL199221511522@vmsa.is.csupomona.edu> cvadrtbc@vmsa.is.csupomona.edu (Srikanth Viswanathan) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.035037.24980@CS.ORST.EDU>, lafourc@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Chris LaFournaise) writes...
>>Somehow, the file c:\os2\dll\pmwp.dll became corrupted on my hard drive.
>>Can anyone tell me which installation disk it can be found on?  I assume
>>that it is compressed into some other file.
>
>It's on Disk 5,  use UNPACK to unpack it.  BTW, take a look at the INSTALL.LOG
>file in the \OS2\INSTALL direcotry, it tells you which files came from which
>disk, very useful.

Note also, that this file is one of the two files that were upgraded
by the black-icon fix (blkico.zoo from software.watson.ibm.com).  You
may just want to update it now.  The other file in the update is
pmgre.dll.



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: scdrye@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Stephen Drye)
Subject: Re: System hang with REISPLANNER
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:18:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.155813.3353@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.075729.22721@donau.et.tudelft.nl> anto@dutetvd.tudelft.nl (Anto Daryanto) writes:
>>I'm a happy user of OS/2 2.0. Last night I had my seconds system down, since
>>I got OS/2 2.0 (well, not include WPS's bugs). I have the newest kernel
>>patch (6.412) and the new pmwin.dll and pmgre.dll.
>>Anyway, I ran REISPLAN (the time table tool from the Netherlands Railway)
>>last night and got a system error:
>>	The system detected an internal processing error at
>>	location ##0160:fff64526-000d:a52b.
>>	60000, 9084
>>	038600d1
>>	Internal revision 6.412, 92/06/02
>>and I have to cold-start my PC. 
>>FYI, with the old kernel (6.307) I can run this software flawlessly.
>
>Go back to the old kernel.  Any "ad hoc" patch should only be applied
>if absolutely necessary -- you don't go applying these patches unless
>you have good reason.  Sometimes that isn't made clear, but it bears
>repeating.
>

Actually the Kernel is OK, it is the new blkico fix that is causing this
problem.  I can easily repeat this problem by switching away from a 
WinOS2 session and the switching back.  Note that the error I get is at the
_exact same_ location as the one listed above, but I got it through a 
different way.

The trapping went away when I switched back to the old PMWIN.DLL and the 
old PMGRE.DLL.

So, the kernel is fine, just go back to the old dll's.

PS: How do you report something like this in Canada?  Obviously there is a 
leetle problem at this location in the new DLL's. :)

Stephen Drye
scdrye@napier.waterloo.edu
From: watson.ibm.com!nrt@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: The Ultimate OS/2 FTP Source
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:16:00 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

I think that it's valid to say software.watson.ibm.com will have the
latest patches for OS/2.  As far as public-domain software, I am really
not set up for it (and haven't done any of the paperwork to allow it
to happen here).

Nick Trio (nrt@watson.ibm.com - keeper of software.watson.ibm.com)
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 bugs - any idea?
Keywords: bugs
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:06:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.132309.26321@cs.tu-berlin.de> dokaar@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Kaar) writes:
>While there have been a few improvement with the fixes provide by
>IBM, there are still annoyances that should be ironed out soon:
>Starting BASIC or BASICA from a windowed session still brings down
>the system with a page fault.  Started from fullscreen, all goes well,
>i.e. the error is trapped, and the process is cancelled correctly
>without killing the OS.

Correct.  Delete this pair from your hard disk -- they aren't supposed
to work on non-IBM machines.

Instead, use QBASIC (which is backward compatible, supposedly, with
GWBASIC/BASICA).

They will need to fix this, I assume, just so the trap doesn't occur.

>This is with the latest kernel fix applied.  Though not a problem by
>itself, this hints at an underlying bug.
>After turning HPFS caching off with CACHE /LAZY:OFF, attempts to
>turn it back on lock up that session, until from another session
>CACHE /LAZY:OFF is issued.

Haven't heard about that one.  Have you filled out the OS/2 problem
report form (os2prob.txt) available via anonymous ftp from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, directory /pub/os2/2.0/info?

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From: tony@bai.baylis.COM (Tony von Ruden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: CDROM on Media Vision PAS-16 
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 21:24:02 GMT
Organization: Baylis Automation, Inc.


In article <1992Jul18.160950.21118@polari> jsanchez@polari.online.com writes:

  > 
  > I have what appears to be many folks problem.  Namely, I want to use my
  > cdrom under both DOS and OS/2.  My dealer talked to Media Vision and they
  > claimed that the SCSI card on the PAS-16 is a Trantor 128 and that the
  > Trantor drivers recently posted to hobbes would work.  I installed the
  > driver, CDFS.IFS, and CDROM.SYS on my system and rebooted.  What I found
  > was that CDROM.SYS reported "No SCSI Devices" and refused to load and then
  > the trantor driver would not install.
  > 
  > Any ideas?  I have an adaptec 1542B on my system too.
  > 

  I'm running a Toshiba 3201-B CDROM off my PAS+ in a DOS5 session with the
  DOS drivers that MV sells for $40.  It seems to work OK.  I have talked
  to TRANTOR myself, and told me that the their drivers won't work with the
  chip on the PAS series cards. You'll have to find a real Trantor SCSI card.

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and Modplay
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:43:46 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <21JUL199211572601@rigel.tamu.edu> raf4482@rigel.tamu.edu (REID FORREST) writes:
>Has anyone had any success with OS/2 and programs like ModPlay?  I've tried
>and Modplay slows to a crawl, and needless to say what comes out of the speak-
>ers nowhere near resembles music.   I have a Covox Sound Master II, and can
>use programs designed to Covox, DAC on LPT1, Speech Thing, etc.
>Any help would be appreciated.

Modplay is sending bytes directly to the sound hardware.  This is a
timing critical application, and may cause problems.  This is known.
Using a DAC on LPT1 will mean all your data gets channeled through the
spooler - not a happy situation.

Your best bet is to somehow increase the multitasking priority of the
DOS session in which ModPlay is running.  I'm not sure how to do this,
but I believe it can be done with a program recently posted to
comp.binaries.os2.  Also, close as many other applications as you can,
to give ModPlay the greatest share of the clock.

You MIGHT try setting HW_TIMER to "on", but on my system, this caused
ModPlay to crash OS/2.  So you might want to forgo that idea.

If you get it working before me, let me know.  I recently downloaded a
different Module Player (Also DOS based) from the Net, and I'll post
the results of trying to use it when I get a chance to play with it.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Subject: Re: cant shutdown my system
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:57:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.030423.21113@muddcs.claremont.edu> teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (Toby Everett) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.180244.1544@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <19341@plains.NoDak.edu> person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person ) writes:
>>>When I try to shut-down os/2,i get the usual dialogs about shutting
>>>down os/2 dos/os2 boxes etc. Then,  I am left with a non-closed
>>>desktop. I.e. nothing happens.  Any ideas? 
>>
>>It happens sometimes.
>>
>>If it does, just make sure that everything is shut down (your
>>applications) and all your data files are saved.  Then, from the
>>desktop, select Refresh instead of Shutdown.  Then press CTRL-ALT-DEL.
>	At this point try a Shutdown.  Everytime I have had the Shutdown
>problem, closing all apps so only OS/2 2.0 Desktop is left on the Windows
>List has enabled me to Shutdown.  It's as if OS/2 lacks the memory to
>close and save applications, so doing it for it saves it that task
>enabling shutdown.

That's not it.  Sometimes I can get OS/2 to shut down after a refresh, other
times it just won't.  This is similar to the icons which stay cross hatched
bug.  Anyway, OS/2 isn't out of memory, since I have 20 Mb installed, and
OS/2 sees 16 Mb.  Anybody think that a new version of GT16MB will come out
which will work for me?  My ISA machine has an AMI BIOS which is reporting
all 20 Mb.  Oh well, I don't plan on keeping the extra 4 Mb anyway.  It is
useless to me (although I could use it's worth in money).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
From: tadr@doe.carleton.ca (Tom A. D. Riley)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and SCSI
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:00:15 GMT

In <1992Jul27.203321.20825@news.columbia.edu> mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:

>Could someone please offer me some advice about the following setup:
>40 Mb IDE
>200 Mb SCSI (AHA1542b)

I don't know if this helps or not but I had a similar setup working perfectly
not too long ago. 20Mb MFM/hard floppy controller runing off my AMI motherboard
bios, 80Mb SCSI (AHA1520). Use of the motherboard bios (not the card's) seemed
necessary for DOS operation. I don't know why.

If you want to boot from the IDE controller you might want to disable the
floppy on the 1542 then it would look more like the setup that worked for me.

>I am trying to get OS/2 2.0 to allow me to boot from the second disk, the SCSI
>disk, and allow access to the IDE disk, as well.  I set up a Boot Manager
>partition at the beginning of the first disk, and a 32 Mb OS/2 boot partition
>at the end of the SCSI disk, and installed the OS/2 boot partition into boot
>manager.  When I had primary DOS partitions on the IDE and the SCSI, I was
>unable to access the IDE disk at all from OS/2.  I changed the primary DOS
>partitions to extended partitions, and OS/2 starts to boot, then gives me a
>CANNOT FIND COUNTRY.SYS in line 33, error.  Well, I tried booting the OS/2
>floppy, and my OS/2 partition is still there, and the config.sys is intact, and
>correct.  So, why the error?  And, is there any way to get this setup to 
>work?

I had the 20Mb disk as a 1Mb bootmanager partition and primary DOS partition
the D drive (SCSI) formatted HPFS during the installation procedure. I followed
Example 2 of appendix C in the installation guide with the exception that D
was a primary partition rather than a logical drive.

>I called IBM's technical support, and they just told me that I shouldn't
>use an IDE and a SCSI disk, and that I can't boot with a 1542.  Well, since
>I know that that is incorrect, maybe someone on the net can tell me the real
>scoop about partitioning, and how to get OS/2 to boot from the second drive
>and still recognize the first.

>Sorry for the lengthy post, and thanks for any help you can give.
>Meir

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As far as fixing things like "can't find country.sys" or (my favouite) "can't 
find _the_ file." the best I could ever do was re-install. not very elegant.

This might give you some hints. Sorry I didn't take some notes to give you
the details.

Tom Riley   tadr@doe.carleton.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc