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From: pmc5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul M Corballis)
Subject: Re: Mark Taylor ambidextrous
Keywords: australian
Reply-To: pmc5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul M Corballis)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:59:50 GMT

In article <anam.727648395@strome> anam@cs.UAlberta.CA (Anam Magsudul) writes:
>pmc5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul M Corballis) writes:
>
>>In article <6671@falcon.ukc.ac.uk> rsp@ukc.ac.uk (R.S.Pickett) writes:
>>>In article <1993Jan15.145434.165538@dstos3.dsto.gov.au> gbf@se21.itd writes:
>
>>[intro deleted]
>
[even more deleted]
>
>>Sir Richard Hadlee also springs to mind as a right-hand bowler/left-hand
>>batsman.  He also bowled one delivery of left-arm "spin" against 
>>Australia in about 1987.
>
>>Cheers, Paul
>
>As a matter of fact you could make a very decent team with players
>who bats and bowls opposite hand. I can think of many, a few of them
>are:

You'd be hard pressed to find a keeper, though :-)

>
>Anyway, this is a never-ending list. However, none of them are ambidextrous,
>because they neither batted both handed nor bowled with both arms. I know
		     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>a cricketer (who represented Bangladesh), could bowl right arm medium-pace
>as well as left-arm orthodox spin and he used to mix that regularly. That
>is quite difficult, I think.
>
except, of course, Hadlee, as mentioned above! :-)

Cheers, Paul
>


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From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Re: WI Physical Assault? - Not! (was Re: Pak win by 33)
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:39:41 GMT

In <1993Jan21.194806.11435@vax.oxford.ac.uk> mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>>>What the new rule forbids is the testing of a batsman with a sequence of
>>>bouncers, something as old as fast bowling.

>> 	An occasional bouncer is, by custom and convention, an accepted
>> way to unsettle the batsman.  A sequence of bouncers can have no other
>> purpose than to intimidate the batsman into fear for his physical safety.

  Trying to unsettle a batsman is fair enough, but I really think that aiming
at his chest or his elbow is quite high enough. Many more batsmen are
dismissed by hand-high balls than head-high. However at one stage Patrick
Patterson was clearly bowling bouncers to keep the scoring rate down which was
just too boring for words. He wasn't dangerous or intimidatory, because you
knew 5 out of 6 would be bouncers, you just had to watch out for the other
one. Curtly Ambrose's bowling has been magnificent recently, even with the new
law. The current Australian innings leaves no doubt that the bouncer law does
not inhibit fast bowlers.


Friendless, who bowls at the hands himself.
From: rsp@ukc.ac.uk (R.S.Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: India v. England 2nd ODI Result.
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:51:02 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


India v. England 2nd ODI:

Team news:
India: Same as first ODI
England: Emburey replaced by Salisbury who is making his ODI debut.

England:

Gooch      c. Tendulkar    b. Srinath    7
Stewart    c. Azharrudin   b. Kapil      7
Smith           lbw        b. Kumble    42
Gatting                c & b. Srinath    0
Fairbrother     lbw        b. Raju       7
Hick                       b. Kapil     56
Reeve                not out            33
Lewis                not out            16

                               Extras   30
                     Total (50 overs)  198

Fall: 1-19 2-20 3-22 4-49 5-132 6-153

10 overs: 20-2
20 overs: 57-4
30 overs: 94-4
40 overs: 133-5


India:

Sidhu           c. Reeve  b. Defreitas  76
Prabhakar       c. Reeve  b. Lewis      36
Kambli               c & b.  Jarvis      9
Azhar              lbw    b. Reeve      36
Tendulkar          lbw    b. Defreitas   1
Amre                 not out            24
Kapil                not out             5

                               Extras   14
                   Total (45.1 overs)  201


India won by 5 wickets.

(Report following later (if I have time))


Rob.
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From: kaushik@dvorak.amd.com (Kaushik Chhotani)
Subject: Re: India Vs England full score card.
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 16:08:41 GMT

In article <C18425.Ctq@dscomsa.desy.de> tjl@zeus02.desy.de (Tim Llewellyn) writes:
>In article <C17v3F.1EJ@cup.hp.com>, pshah@cup.hp.com (Pankaj Shah) writes:
>|>
>|>: 	England
>|>: 	=======
>|>:         .
>|>:         .
>|>: Extras					30
>|>					       ^^^^
>|>Wow!  That is a LOT of extras in 50 overs!  Was one of the Indian
>|>bowlers 
>|>having a bit of trouble?
>|>
>
>yes I think it was mainly Srinath, wides and noballs.
>--

I think that wides and no balls are included in the runs given away by a 
bowler. Srinath's analysis was 2 for 34 and thus could not have given 30
runs in wides and no balls. It may have been leg-byes which do go into
the sundry acct. only.

Correct me if I am wrong.

>Tim Llewellyn			
>Zeus-UK VMS guru
>Soukous Addict
>ZEUS02::TJL,BRSPVA::TJL,TJL@ZEUS02.DESY.DE,TJL@SIVA.BRIS.AC.UK

Kaushik

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From: SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu (Spaceman Spiff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Ian Botham
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:44:49 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <C1I0zn.BEJ@uceng.uc.edu>, bnataraj@uceng.uc.edu (Bhaskar Natarajan)
says:
>
>        Can someone from England post Botham's record in tests for the
>period when he was at his peak (say '80 to '84)...I think that will lay
>to rest all doubts about his phenomenal dominance.
>
well, i'm not from england. but here goes anyway. these stats are from the
WI series of 1980 (IB's first foray into captaincy) to the WI series of
85-86 (the second blackwash).
Series   T  I n.o. runs 100 50 HS  avg.    B   M   R  W  5wi 10wm  BB  avg.
WI 80    5  9  -    169  -  1  57  18.77  786 41 385 13   -   -   3-50 29.61
Au 80    1  1  -     0   -  -   0   0.00  188  3 132  1   -   -   1-43 132.0
WI 80-81 4  7  -     73  -  -  26  10.42  872 31 492 15   -   -   4-77 32.80
Au 81    6 12  1    399  2  1 149* 36.27 1634 82 700 34   3   1   6-95 20.58
In 81-82 6  8  -    440  1  4 142  55.00 1443 53 660 17   1   -   5-61 38.82
SL 82    1  1  -     13  -  -  13  13.00  149  2  65  3   -   -   3-28 21.60
In 82    3  3  -    403  2  1 208 134.33  561 16 320  9   1   -   5-46 35.55
Pk 82    3  6  -    163  -  2  69  27.16  905 33 478 18   1   -   5-74 26.55
Au 82-83 5 10  -    270  -  1  58  27.00 1283 31 729 18   -   -   4-75 40.50
NZ 83    4  8  -    282  1  1 103  35.25  677 27 340 10   -   -   4-50 34.00
NZ 83-84 3  4  -    226  1  1 138  56.50  658 25 354  7   1   -   5-59 50.57
Pk 83-84 1  2  -     32  -  -  22  16.00  180  5  90  2   -   -   2-90 45.00
WI 84    5 10  -    347  -  3  81  34.70  980 29 667 19   2   -  8-103 35.10
SL 84    1  1  -      6  -  -   6   6.00  336 12 204  7   1   -   6-90 29.14
Au 85    6  8  -    250  -  2  85  31.25 1510 36 855 31   1   -  5-109 27.58
WI 85-86 5 10  -    168  -  -  38  16.80  809 16 535 11   1   -   5-71 48.63

Record over this period:
Batting: 59 tests, 100 inn, 1 n.o., 3241 runs, avg. 32.74, 7 100's 17 50's
Bowling: 12,971 balls, 442 maidens, 7004 runs, 215 wickets, avg. 32.58
         12 5wi & 1 10wm. SR= 60.33   RR= 3.23/over


Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff

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From: sista@engr.LaTech.edu (Ravi K. Sista)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Tendulkar is out
Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:33:13 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
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Sachin Tendulkar is out for 1.  lbw for Defreitas.

India are 161 for 4 of 37 overs.

38 required off 13 overs.

Keep in touch for the latest from Chandigarh, guys.

Pravin Amre is the new batsman.

With regards,

Ravi kumar Sista
From: x93tv@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: IND V ENGLAND ITENIERARY
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:26:21 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

IND V ENGLAND ITENERARY

   Can somebody mail the itenerary for the current tour of England.

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From: gregw@hspice.portal.com ()
Subject: Cricket in the Gulf
Organization: Meta-Software Inc., Campbell, CA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:46:46 GMT

On CNN last night, they showed the UN weapons inspectors
getting off the bus after being allowed back in Iraq.

The second or third guy off the bus had a cricket bat
conspicuously sticking out of his bag, handle first.

Yay dudes!

-- Greg

"But they said it was an Iraqi cricket ball, how was I to
know it was a hand grenade?"

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From: urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan)
Subject: England-India Under 25 XI match drawn.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:15:53 GMT

The 3-day match between England and the Indian Under 25 XI ended in a draw.
Brief scores:

England 408/4 decl (Gooch 102, Smith 149) and
        146/2 decl (Atherton 80*)

India U25 273 (Kureshia 103, Malcolm 4/xx, Salisbury 3/xx) and
           53/1.

England were somewhat heartened by the form shown on the last day by Malcolm
(took 3 wickets in 2 overs in the morning, then bowled Jadeja for 0 in the 
U25 XI's 2nd innings), Salisbury (finally got among the wickets), and 
Atherton. 

The first Test begins on Jan 29. One lesson England can draw from their matches
so far is that, on an unhelpful wicket, the Indian batsman are likely to be 
better at playing the English spinners that vice versa. Perhaps England's 
best chance of winning the series is to hope that Malcolm and Defreitas (if 
he recovers from his injury) can shake up an (Indian) innings or two.
From: deanf@spider.co.uk (Dean Fenton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Second ODI
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:26:14 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

Second England / India ODI.

England made 193 or 194. Smith and Hick both around 50.

India 145 for 3 off 35 overs (15 to go).
Siddhu just out for 76, incl. two sixes.
The opening partnership was worth at least 70, but I missed a 
large section of the game after that.

Looks like a win for India on the way.

=====================
Dean McPherson Fenton
From: skumar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shivesh Kumar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Selfish Gavaskar & Shastri
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:04:56 GMT
Organization: UB
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Spaceman Spiff (SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote:

: many, you are so dumb that dan quayle could take lessons from you.
: the only reason india came back to tie the hockey match was because west
      ^^^^
: germany took off their best few players. bills won because they got a few
: calls in their favor and houston choked.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: when kirti azad won the game for india, the total being chased was 197 in abo
: 50 overs. in the jam match, the total was 334 in 45 overs. can you even begin
: to comprehend the difference? there is almost an order of magnitude differenc
: in the first case, even tho' wickets fell early, the runs required was still
: very gettable 100 in about 20-odd overs. the required run rate never went ove
r               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                 Junk your memory

:  8 or so. in the second match the runs required was 250+ in about 30-0dd over
  ^^^
: and its pretty obvious that any team would rather chase 140 in 20 overs than
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: 350 in 50 overs even tho' the required run rate is the same. the sheer number
: of runs scored by the WI, coupled with their marvellous pace attack, put the
: game out if india's reach. but, you in your infinite wisdom would have
: preferred that india slog from the beginning and lose by 200 runs.

: it doesn't even need any brains to be a position to criticise. a liberal
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       Hmmm, now I see how you are able to criticise me!

: Stay screwed,
: Spaceman Spiff


People like you would make good sportsman I believe!!! If target is gettable
(say 140 in 20 overs) then go for it otherwise just keep sitting hoping that
you might get few calls in your favour or maybe the opponent take off their
good players...otherwise impossible to win so only try reducing margin...!!

I would appreciate if people with such sporting spirit refrain from responding
to my articles.

regards,
shivesh
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From: sbasu@spock (BASU)
Subject: Re: The best ever Test  XIs
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:30:26 GMT

In article <C19yM7.CHo@inews.Intel.COM> rrao@pima.intel.com (Ravi Rao)  
writes:
> In article <1993Jan22.190936.15582@nmsu.edu> sbasu@kirk (BASU) writes:
> >
> >I've decided to make a list of all time great XIs from Australia,  
England,  
> >India, New Zealand, Pakistan & the West Indies for Tests.
> >
> >
> >INDIA
> >-----
> >Sunil Gavaskar (vc)
> >Vijay Merchant (c)
> >Vijay Manjrekar
> >G R Vishwanath
> >Dilip Vengsarkar
> >Faroukh Engineer (wk)
> >Kapil Dev
> >Manoj Prabhakar
> 	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 	PLEASE, no way prabhakar makes it into an all time XI!!

Who do ya suggest for opening the bowling? Gavaskar?

Scrooge
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From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Ravi Shastri (Indian team for 1st test)
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:56:47 GMT


I am by no means a great Ravi Shastri fan, but the team
selection for the first Test shows how valuable he is for
a TEST team.  COnsider a possible line-up now..

In the absence of Shastri you have to eiter weaken the batting 
and go with 5 bowlers and 5 bats plus More (why not Yadav???),
and use Prabhakar to open the batting!!  Thats just great -- we
ask the most consistent bowler overthe last two series to
opne both the batting and bowling -- a good way to burn him out...

or go in with only 4 bowlers..  Just whhat we need -- have Kapil
bowl another 30-40 overs/inning and blow his career to pieces..

There is another problem -- whichever lineup you choose,

Sidhu,Raman/Prabhakar,Azhar,Tendulkar,Amre,Kambli,Kapil there
is only ONE grafter in the first 7 bats -- Amre -- in fact only
one person capable of putting his head down and building an innings
in the entire side.  Everyone else is a strokeplayer -- dazzling
when he comes off, but as Shamim said "a surefire recipe for disaster
in the Tests".

Now look how Shastri's addition (when he is fit and available) 
helps stabilize the side.  First he is an opener, allowing
Prabhakar to concentrate on his bowling, which we sorely need.

Second, if told in no uncertain terms that he (Shastri) MUST bowl,
he allows us to have 6 batsmen and 5 bowlers with a wickie, rather
than 5-5 or 6-4 -- Shastri can be a perfectly capable 5th bowler.
In fact Shastri enable you to play an extra batsmen in place of
a bowler -- giving much needed stability tto the fragile batting.  
Most of all, we have a grafter at the top of our lineup -- an
essential counterpoint to the Sidhus et al...

Finally, since I believe we must have 5 bowlers, it allows much more
stability to the lower order -- if we choose 5 bowlers for the 1st
Test -- we will have a tail of Srinath, Kambli, and Raju -- 
reminiscent of the Pras,Bedi,Chandra tail where 8 down = all out
most often -- with the instability of the Indian top order, this
does not bode well....

Essentailly, Shastri would play in place of Raju, providing a 
significantly less able bowler, but a much better bat and a grafter...

No question in my mind.  We need Ravi Shastri to open the Test team, 
and we need him badly!

Bharat
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From: rajesh@quince (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Standard of International Cricket ????
Date: 25 Jan 1993 02:28:12 GMT
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Peter Miles (peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM) wrote:
: He has to be the worst International cricketing fieldsman, I have ever 
: seen, just fractionally ahead of Eddie "the barrell" Hemmings, and to 
: round it all off, he can't bat to save his life.

  Hey Hey Hey !!! Eddie the barrel Hemmings was a mighty sharp fielder
  man! I remember him from a series in India. Mighty sharp man!
 
--

Rajesh Raman

--
From: drinnen@deakin.edu.au (Philip Shead)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Australia 2.5 for 18 when rain stopped play this morning
Date: 23 Jan 1993 20:24:50 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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	Australia are two for 18 with Boon in hospital for an X-ray on his
elbow (I think) which was hit when he try to  duck a ball that was not all that
short when he was undecided about what to do. This brought Mark Waugh to the
crease, the first ball thundered into his pads and was given not out
(leg side to commentators) the second ball was the perfect dismissal with
Ambrose getting the edge  and the ball going to Simmons at fourth slip.
S Waugh faced one delivery and the other not out batsman is of course
Justin Langer. Interesting that considering in all  the papers there is
talk of Langer being thrown to the wolves by batting at three. In fact he has
looked easily the most comfortable to mine more so than Boon who seemed to
have a bit of trouble with some. As for throwing him to the wolves , one wonders
because these are the same people who wanted Matt Hayden to open and
that would be more difficult one thinks. Besides he has spent all his
career as either an opener or number 3.

	As for Boonies injuring this may in a circular way gives Australia
a chance to get rid of Taylor. I see it as Boon misses Perth, Martyn replaces
Boon with Langer opening. Then of course Boon replaces Taylor. 
Of course this leaves us with a problem of who replaces Border as captain in
a couple of years. I see Mark Waugh as care-taker captain until Martyn is ready
to take over.
 
	In news yesterday, Tasmania gave Queensland the mother of a hiding
by winning in three days by an innings, only the second time they
have won by an innings in shield cricket. Hayden scored 46 and 46. Cox 137*
Buckingham 51 (More runs, now why do Tassie ever drop him). Bowling
for Tassie was pretty even in the first innings Kasprowicz took 6-59 for 
Queensland and Peter McPhee 5-48. Match scores were 
Tasmania 335 defeated Queensland 168 & 162 by an innings and 5 runs.

	Oh goody channel 9 have gone to the highlights of yesterday, damn 
they've left us in the air again. Started highlights of a one-day game 
yesterday and we still haven't seen the finish. Maybe they could show some
highlights of the 84'84 or 88'89 Adelaide test which would be more appropriate.
Oh and Eastern states viewer (except the sensible Queenslanders) can remeber
thah Channell 9 will NOT be showing the last half hour during weekdays.
Of course that TOP rating ground breaking quiz show Keynotes means that
the news and current affairs can't be moved.
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From: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Subject: Re: Indian Team for 1st Test
Reply-To: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:22:58 GMT

In article <karnik.727664901@pico> karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:
>In <6687@falcon.ukc.ac.uk> rsp@ukc.ac.uk (R.S.Pickett) writes:
>
>[team deleted]
>
>	Ankola dropped in favour of *Sharma*?? Without even giving him
>a chance?? And More's back :-( I was hoping Yadav had made it to the
>Test team.... Or do the selectors have different teams for ODIs and
>Tests?  Well, the team's identical but for two changes, so I don't
>really see the point. Funny how Chetan Sharma's brought back when he
>doesn't really have a chance to make it to the final eleven.
>
>>Rob.
>
>     +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+
>     | Neeran M. Karnik | #2 fan of Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar on r.s.c.  :-> |
>     | Dept. of CompSci.| "I am Sachin's number one fan" - Sunil Gavaskar  |
>     | U of Minnesota   | "A jewel in India's crown" - Tony Cozier         |
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I think it's Ajay Sharma.
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Akram
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:03:24 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1993Jan27.042315.8506@leland.Stanford.EDU> rohanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rohan Koduvayur Kri Chandran) writes:
>In article <728103454@lear.cs.duke.edu> azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:
>>Me... I rank Wasim, Curtly, and Waqar in top
>>three, with the final ranking depending on current form.
>>	   Salman [expert commentator] Azhar

>I'm glad someone can see a way to differentiate between these three and rank
>them accordingly :-) I for one can do no more than say they are the best three
>bowlers around today. I would have problems putting any one of them above the
>others.
>Rohan

Agreed. About two years ago, I would have included Ian Bishop in the
elite as well. However, his nagging injury, and rather unimpressive
return to international cricket has left him out of the top notch
bowlers.


Salman [gardening the pitch] Azhar

-- 
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pursuit in happiness, very often they interpret that as happiness of
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From: urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan)
Subject: Re: WI win by 1 run !!!!!!!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:58:50 GMT

Wow, what a Test match. And to think that I got off IRC when Aus were 
140/9!!! 

I noticed that WI bowled 79 overs in more or less 6 hours of play. Now, 
before you flame me, let me agree that this was one of the most gripping 
Test matches in years, and to cavil about the fine print is ludicrous, BUT 
(and here it comes) remember that Pakistan were recently fined for failing 
to meet the over rate in a Test that had as exciting an ending. Don't get me 
wrong, I firmly believe that, as long as spectators are getting their money's 
worth, over-rates don't matter a hoot. However, I wonder whether:
(a) given the way the ICC rules are written, do teams incur fines regardless 
of the result of the match? In particular, are WI going to be fined just as 
Pakistan were?
(b) is there any reasonable way to define "getting your money's worth" that 
will not leave holes through which teams may fall?