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From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Q: multi-threading in Frame?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 08:01:36 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:

> In article <1go0m9INNl70@travis.csd.harris.com> kbeal@amber (Ken Beal) writes
> 
> >I've been using Frame for only a few hours, total, and have noticed a glarin
> >deficiency: I am running on a multi-processor Unix box, and Frame has to
> >pause while printing until the printing is done!
]...[
> >Another thing that upsets me is its handling of the user's dictionary.  It i
> >quite limited, as compared to, say, Word Perfect's.  Some words it would not
> >allow me to enter in (i.e. some things like "..." where it flags it not
> >as a misspelling, but as a repeated character), and it would not let me put
> >in some places where there are extra spaces.
> 
> For multiple spaces, check the "Document" pop up window under the Format
> pull down menu.  For dictionary options, click on Options on the spelling
> Checker.  There's lots of stuff to set under in the options and I suspect
> some combination will solve your problem.

I suggest that Ken should take the time to go thru the instruction material.
FrameMaker is not overly intuitive.  I have been using it for over five years,
and I still find little things that make my work a lot easier (and some that
make my work frustrating).

It's been awhile since I've done this, so you mileage may vary:

Enter `fmtraining' at your system prompt.  FM should create training
directories in your home directory, copy the appropriate material into it,
then open a training session.  Check your documentation.

s

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From: stelios@eve.csi.forth.gr (Stelios Sartzetakis)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Colour from Deskjet 500C, Frame, and Window
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:35:51 GMT
Organization: FORTH - ICS, P.O.Box 1385, Heraklio, Crete, Greece 71110 
       tel: +30(81)221171, 229302 fax: +30(81)229342,3 tlx: 262389 CCI
Distribution: world
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Keywords: SUN, color, Canon, HP-Deskjet 500C

In article <1992Dec11.120859.4536@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>, knipp@ipi.uni-hannover.de (K. Knipp) writes:
|> 
|> 	Apparentely it's a problem of the driver-software. According to FRAME the
|> 	original HP-driver is full of bugs. Well, it works with a variety of soft-
|> 	ware, the problems are just with frame. 
|> 	Anyway, FRAME told us there are several drivers from Microsoft for the 
|> 	Deskjet, of which one (1) is actually working.
|> 
|> 	So, if someone out there can please tell us the name of this driver, we'll
|> 	be very happy.

I'd be VERY happy if someone could tell me if they succeded printing on 
the new Canon (model clc10 as they call it outside US) from a SUN using
FrameMaker (or any other packages I should ask).

Unfortunately Canon does not provide yet a driver (neither a postscript
interpreter) for the SUN so I connected it on a MacII on the same net
which runs the "Freedom of Press" postscript interpreter and a spooler.

Using the above settup anyone on the net can specify "color" for
the printer name in their FrameMaker and get the output send to the Canon.
The problem is that the prolog that the FrameMaker on the SUNs is using
is not the same as the one on the FrameMaker on the Mac, thus the 
Canon gives me the anoying "Dictfull" error message I mentioned some
time ago to this newsgroup.
(since then I discovered that I could save .MIF format on the SUN,
then load it on the Mac and print the file from there, which works just fine!)

Anybody got a better FrameMaker prolog file I can use when sending to
Canon ? (or it's just OK to replace the one on the SUNs whith the
one I uploaded from the Mac ;-)

thanks in advance,
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From: tholome@esf.de (Eric Tholome)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Moving things around...
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:47:36 GMT
Organization: ESF Headquarters, Berlin, FRG

This was experienced with FrameMaker 2.1 on Sun.

I've discovered something pretty convenient (and possibly funny) in FrameMaker:
if you select several characters, hold Control down and use the arrow keys, you
will be able to move the selection in all four directions.

I'm sure this can be helpful in drawings, etc. I guess it can mess things up as
well if used stupidly...

You can also use it to play tricks on your friends... If you write "fcatory"
and artificially swap the a and the c, it will look like "factory", but the
spelling checker will still complain about it. The cursor will also make
some weird moves when passing over it (with the left or right arrow).

Is this well known, used and documented? I don't think so...

                                                      Eric

P.S. This also works for objects, but it isn't that funny, is it?
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Subject: Re: Cut and Paste Query
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:36:39 EST


In article <kf=oNT2SMUE4MTAmpD@transarc.com>, Bill_Chiles@transarc.com writes:
|> I use FrameMaker on a Mac IIsi, and I've noticed multiple times cut/copy and
|> paste operation failures.  Just last night I marked a big region of text,
|> cut it with splat-x, moved to another location, and tried to paste it with
|> splat-v.  I got the error that there is nothing in the cut/copy buffer, and
|> I totally lost my text.
|> 
|> Is this a known problem?  Is there something missing from my model of
|> cutting and pasting?  This does sometimes work.

This is a known bug in the Macintosh version of FrameMaker when running under
System 7.  Specifically, the VERY FIRST time you try to put something on the
clipboard in FrameMaker after rebooting under System 7, it silently fails.

This is fixed in the current Macintosh bug-fix version (3.0.1)
At least, according to the release document -- I haven't tried it yet.

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:08:15 -0500 
From: Bill_Chiles@transarc.com
Subject: Cut and Paste Query

I use FrameMaker on a Mac IIsi, and I've noticed multiple times cut/copy and
paste operation failures.  Just last night I marked a big region of text,
cut it with splat-x, moved to another location, and tried to paste it with
splat-v.  I got the error that there is nothing in the cut/copy buffer, and
I totally lost my text.

Is this a known problem?  Is there something missing from my model of
cutting and pasting?  This does sometimes work.

Thanks,
Bill
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: graaff@IS.TWI.TUDelft.NL (Hans de Graaff)
Subject: Re: Chapter Headings
Reply-To: graaff@IS.TWI.TUDelft.NL
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:12:45 GMT

In article Hoy@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk, kr1@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Kevin Richards [METOFF]) writes:
>Hi,
>	I want to know how to create a heading with auto numbering but put the text on the following line. i.e.
>	Chapter 1
>	     Some title.
>
>The text should still belong to the chapter heading. Any quick and easy solutions.

I think it might not be a bad idea to incorporate this in the FAQ.

I think it's pretty strange that Frame doesn't support this, because I think
it's fairly common to want this.

Anyway, the trick is to include a meta-return in the auto-number. Note that
this only works for certain versions. I managed to get it to work on Frame3.1X,
but 3.1OL didn't allow me to enter the meta-return. I don't know about any
other versions.

In Frame 3.1X, you can enter the meta-return as meta-m, or you can use the
special code \r. This \r isn't in the list of building blocks, but you can
enter it anyway.

Finally, after entering this autonumber it still doesn't work all the time.
One trick that usually helps is to go to the paragraph, hit enter, then backspace.
This will make the meta-return work. It might also help if this happens during
a full moon...

All of this works (most of the time) on Frame3.1X, your milage will vary.

Good luck (and you'll need it),

Hans
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From: pla_jfr@sld64pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: 3.0 vs 3.1
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:52:44 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


In article <BzBIJK.4r6@inews.Intel.COM>, thamilto@fnugget.intel.com (Tony Hamilton) writes:
|> We are using FrameMaker v3.0 on various Unix platforms. I am curious, what
|> is the difference between 3.0 and 3.1? Is it worth upgrading?

many bugs fixed in 3.1
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: viranga@kbs.citri.edu.au (Viranga (Summer Student))
Subject: Document Window question
Organization: Collaborative Information Technology Research Institute
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:54:14 GMT

If I have a document window open (containing a document), can I swap the existing
document for another document without FrameMaker generating another document
window?

Can I do this from an applications program which manipulates FrameMaker (C lang.)?

Viranga Ratnaike
viranga@phobos.kbs.citri.edu.au

Postscript : Please see also "Suppressing dialog boxes??" I forgot to say question

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Phil Buxton  <PhilB@BNR.ca>
Subject: Re: autonumbering question
Organization: Bell Northern Research
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:37:53 GMT


In article  Chip Clofine, chipc@borland.com writes:


>I'm setting up a template for technical manuals and have the need to 
>auto-number tables, figures and examples. The format I must use is 
>ChapterNumber-TableNumber, etc. so that captions will number and print 
>like:
>
>Table 13-4  A sample table.
>
>where 13 is the current chapter number,
>and 4 is the table number for the forth table in the chapter.
>
................
>
>How do I accomplish this?
>
Start with a single stream of numbering for all paras, figures etc
and use the CHAPTER number as the key.  Its in the FAQ but 
the FAQ needs refinement because it won't count paras correctly.  
I have been meaning to write for sometime but here is a good opportunity.


Chapter    = Chapter 1:,  Chapter 2:.....
Header 1   = 1.1, 1.2, 1.3  etc
Header 2   = 1.1.1, 1.1.2       1.2.1, 1.2.2.....
Header 3   = 1.1.1.1, 1.1.1.2      1.2.1.1, 1.2.1.2     1.2.2.1,
1.2.2.2....
Figures    = Figure 1-1, Figure 1-2....	
Tables     = Table 1-1, Table 1-2.....
Procedures = Procedure 1-1, Procedure 1-2......

Autonumbers required:

Chapter:       H:Chapter <n+>:< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>
Figures:        H:Figure <n>-<n+>< >< >< >< >< >< >
Tables:          H:Table <n>-< ><n+>< >< >< >< >< >
Procedures:  H:Procedure <n>-< >< ><n+>< >< >< >< >
Header 1:             H:<n>.< >< >< ><n+>< =0>< =0>< =0>
Header 2:             H:<n>.< >< >< ><n>.<n+>< =0>< =0>
Header 3:             H:<n>.< >< >< ><n>.<n>.<n+>< =0>
Header 4:             H:<n>.< >< >< ><n>.<n>.<n>.<n+>

If you don't want the 1 at the beginning of the para numbers, replace the 
"<n>." with a "< >" in the header autonumber series
Similarly, if you want alphas or romans, change the n?s as required.

Note the "undocumented" < >   = <space>    means don?t increment, don?t
print
                  and   < =O> = <space =zero> means reset counter to zero
                                              but do NOT print
 This works a dream and since everything is keyed off chapter number, you
cut
 down no. of tags required by half (don't need any ...._first) and it does
 not matter what is in the chapter, you will always count right.
 
 The FAQ is wrong because it does not reset the heading counters to zero
 and hence you get para numbers as follows:
 1.1
 1.2
 1.2.1
 1.3
 1.3.2
 1.3.2.1
 1.4
 1.4.3........
 Now you have done this, have the page numbers numbered by chapter also
 as 3-1,3-2... in chapter 3, and 4-1, 4-2... in chapter 4.  This gets a
little
 trickier, but it too is possible!!    Note that in this instance when
setting
 up the book, you will need, Restart page numbering at 1, but paranumber
 continues---so the chapters count.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kelem@xilinx.com (Steve Kelem)
Subject: mif style in emacs?
Organization: Xilinx Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:04:00 GMT


Does anyone have an emacs/epoch style file for Marker Interchange Format?
Please reply directly to me.

Thanks,
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From: wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comments@frame.com
Subject: Re: Frame 4.0 (Was Re: No 4.0 for NeXT???)
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:38:07 GMT
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany

noraa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (aaron.l.hoffmeyer) writes:

>These are some of the "macroscopic" things I would like to see changed,
>and by no means, all of them.  So, anyone else out there want to put in
>your macroscopic wish list?  If Frame is still working on 4.0, which I
>assume they are doing, your wishes count as votes in favor of certain
>changes.  If they have to make last minute decisions on what to abandon
>and what to include, these votes might persuade them.

ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch) writes:

>In article <1992Dec10.084648.17250@fokus.gmd.de>, mwa@fokus.gmd.de (M.Walch) writes:
>|> Does anyone know how to create characters not listed in the keyboard
>|> maps delivered with the frame docs by overtyping a character without
>|> deleting it.

>You can do this by applying a negative spread to the first character.
>Unfortunately, the amount of spread must be tailored to each character-pair
>and each font.

Overprinting characters and related elementary text layout features are 
a major deficiency of FrameMaker. Simple overprinting was a feature in 
FrameMaker 1.3 but for inexplicable unwiseness of the design team it was 
removed from version 2 instead of extending it to what is urgently needed 
in many scientific texts: attaching characters with marks such as accent 
marks and even multiple of them. For example, putting one or two tilde (~) 
marks on top of any letter (not restricted to the letter N which happens 
to exist with one tilde), etc. None of the tricks which have been 
discussed in this group is an excuse for the lack of this important basic 
feature since they all are very cumbersome to apply. The spread-trick 
mentioned above, e.g., does not center the character parts - you'll have 
to apply manual justification (select and use Alt-arrow keys) in addition 
for horizontal centering as well as vertical adjustment. Horrible!
I've been complaining at comments@frame.com more than once but they 
apparently prefer to enrich FrameMaker with big features that are more 
likely to look impressive from a public-relations point of view than these 
basic things.
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: wcl@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Wayne Long)
Subject: Easy way to create unix man pages?
Keywords: unix manual hypertext
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:20:23 GMT


I'm looking for a filter, utility, or editor that
will take normal, what-you-see-is-what-you get
text, and convert it into a unix man page with
minimal hassle.

I realize that some of the major sections and headings
would have to be delimeted in some way, but I'd like to
be able to do this editing with a normal text editor
(or framemaker or MacIntosh Word) in as minimally
cryptic way as possible.


Wayne

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From: johnson@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil (Don Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Hypertext
Keywords: Hypertext, CD-ROM
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:55:58 GMT
Organization: AMSAA/GWD, APG, MD 21005

After reading the FAQ, I'm not sure if this is the right group for this
question but here goes.

My organization publishes a significant number of manuals with some
individual manuals running >3800 pages. Our desire is to move toward
distribution on CD-ROM using Hypertext.

I know virtually nothing about Hypertext except that the document is
"databased" and tables of pointers are built (and of course that's probably
not right :-} ).

Can someone give me references describing Hypertext and maybe pointers to
some software packages?

Thanks in advance,

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From: aesmoot@aescon.com (Art Smoot)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: Does your word processor know RTF (Rich Text Format)?
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:44:16 GMT
Organization: AES Consulting, Boulder, Colorado

In <BzJ4ot.6vp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> gilbertd@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) writes:
>I am looking at RTF (Rich Text Format, specified by Microsoft)
>as a possible  cross-platform, cross-wordprocessor interchange
>format for documents.   

If you are looking at RTF for interchange among a small group, okay.  
However, you might want to consider SGML as a more complete interchange
standard if you have a large group; where document life may be quite long;
where national language issues need to be considered; where content 
structure and order are important; and where other application processing
might be used.  SGML is more complex to implement since you would need
to define DTD's (Document Type Definition) for the application, but it
is an ISO standard and a major direction for text processing applications.
There is a newsgroup comp.text.sgml for discussion.
    
   

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Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
From: danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik)
Subject: EnVision
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:25:06 GMT

Has anyone tried the new shareware DTP program, EnVision?  It sounds
like a pretty nice program.

Dan
Xref: sparky comp.text.desktop:498 comp.sys.mac.misc:20732
From: eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth)
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Flatbed Scanner Questions
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:33:27 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

I'm wondering if anyone has experience working with HP ScanJets (grayscale
and color) and the Apple OneScanner on the Mac platform and could recommend
one or the other?  The brunt of my work will be b&w line art, but I would
scan more photographs if the scanner did a good job.  I currently use a 
3 or 4 yr. old Sharp JX-450 and, in my opinion, it sucks.  I read where Apple
is bundling the Ofoto software when you buy a OneScanner, and from what I
understand this is pretty cool software.  Does HP give you any scanning
software?  Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: Help needed for novice with HP Scanjet, PLEASE READ.  thanks
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 11:08:44 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

I've just started a new job, and the computer they gave me to work with is:
486-33, 16 megs RAM, networked to a HP LaserJet III, and a SCSI interface to
an HP ScanJet IIc (I think it is a IIc).  The scanner is a little wider than 
8.5 inches, and long enough to handle legal size documents. 

I'm using DeskScan II (the software that came with the scanner), and there 
is another program from ZSoft, photo imager, or something like that.   My
main job is programmer, but during lunch and breaks I have been playing with
the scanner.  My tests are using an 8x10 photo of a friend's baby, and using
a color magazine cover.

So far my results are not very impressive.  I got an excellent black and white
image of the baby, and playing with some of the settings (not knowing exactly
what I was doing) got it turn out very well with good shadows and such.

My attempts at color are entirely different.  Everything I've tried in color
turned out to be very grainy.  Almost as if it were 75dpi.  I have no
documentation, so RTFM is not an option.  :(  I'm sure there is a way to make
the image scan in color and look as good as the black and white one did, can
anyone help me?  

I will need to print these out, but first I need to worry about quality scans.

If you have any hints/tips/tricks/etc for the HP scanjet iic please let me
know...
 
Thanks for any help anyone can offer...

Greg


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From: mortiz@hpprdeb.prd.hp.com (Miguel Ortiz)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:07:56 GMT
Subject: Re: HELP!!!
Organization: HP Puerto Rico Manufacturing Operation
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop

Does anyone knows a company that can reproduce desktop publications on 
1200+ dpi resolution typesetters (i.e. Linotronics)?  I am planning becaming
								    ^^^^^^^^

Should be becoming.


Apologies,


Miguel
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 12:09:00 CST
From: Ron Vyhmeister <U53805@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: Info on DTP

Hi there!  I'm looking for information on DTP.  Is there a magazine which has c
urrent information?  Are there trade shows?  Where does one get information?##I
'd appreciate any tips.##Thanks##Ron Vyhmeister#u53805@uicvm.uic.edu -- Interne
t#U53805@uicvm -- Bitnet##
From: mortiz@hpprdeb.prd.hp.com (Miguel Ortiz)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:10:07 GMT
Subject: HELP!!!
Organization: HP Puerto Rico Manufacturing Operation
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop

Does anyone knows a company that can reproduce desktop publications on 
1200+ dpi resolution typesetters (i.e. Linotronics)?  I am planning becaming
a freelance DTP and I will like to know if there are companies offering this
kind of service overnight.


Thanks,


Miguel
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop