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From: atb@whomp.engin.umich.edu (Adrian Bradley)
Subject: Re: DAS EFX, House of Pain
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:11:35 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: alt.rap
Originator: atb@whomp.engin.umich.edu


In article <fedde.714909577@Minsk>, fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:
> edsum02@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Cassondra Pope) writes:
> 
> >Das Efx -->YES
> 
> *agree*
> 
> >House of Pain --> ?? (is that rap?)
> 
> No, that's not rap. It's hip hop. CH-style.
> 
> >Arrester --> ditto (do you mean Arrested Development? --> if so, YESSS!)
> 
> No Cass. This is what is rap. Softcore, wickidy-wickidy-wack. I bought their
> album and damn I regret it. We could say it this way to the one asking :
> 
>   If you like hardcore styles, get DAS EFX and House of Pain.
>   If you are a softy, get Arrested Development.

I don't know about all of that...

IMHO, Arrested Development didn't put out the record to sound hardcore. But 
their messages are a bit deeper than the radio has made them seem, IMHO. 
"Tennessee" seemed like a decent song with a catchy feel that all mainstream
could sing along to as it was being played on the radio. But *listen* to the 
lyrics, and you'll find that he's talking about returning to the place where
there was slavery not too long ago. One of the lines (someone help me here) 
mentioned something about "swinging from trees my forefathers hung from." 

Although I would agree with Fedde about Arrested Development not being hardcore
, I wouldn't characterize them as "wickidy-wickedy-wack," but maybe that's just
me. d:-) 

> 
> >BUY DAS EFX AND ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT!!!!!!
> 
> Well, it's your opinion and I respect it. Just had to tell what was on my
> mind too.
> 
> I'm audi...
> 
> 
> Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)

==AD (atb@engin.umich.edu)
From: juoncatherin@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: to atb@engin.umich.edu
Date: 29 Aug 92 10:35:00 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Adrian!  MC Flash X here.  You're address atb@engin.umich.edu wouldn't mail 
for me, so I'm posting you a note.  I'll be back sometime Friday, perhaps   
late afternoon.  If you have any news or letters that you want to reach me 
before then, this is my address.

Mr. Steven J. Juon
2209 350th Street
Stanhope, IA 50246

Other than that, I'll answer all of my e-mail Friday.  Stay strong, homes, 
and I'm audi like Doody Howdy :-)

"Hardcore will never die" Public Enemy - Lost at Birth
"I'm harder than a hard-on..." Das EFX - East Coast

Peace from the X-man.
From: gregs@polari.online.com
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: New PUBLIC ENEMY album
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:58:09 GMT
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)

Jeffrey.Polachek@f408.n107.z1.ieee.org (Jeffrey Polachek) writes:

>Great news, all!

>Public Enemy has decided to pick up the pace (it was over 18 months
>between the release of Black Planet and Apocalypse 91) and have a new
>album due out some time this month! (sept)..
[ etc. ]

>    Flavor Flav appeared on "MTV News" and said about the title, "Every
>group has greatest hits...NO ONE has greatest misses." He also stated
[ etc. ]

Just a side note, DEVO has a disc called "Greatest Misses."
-- 
Gregory Sumner ~ Seattle, Washington  :: Up, down, turn around
gregs@polari.online.com               :: Please don't let me hit the ground.
:::"Go Dawgs!":::::::::::::::::::::::::::N.O.:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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From: fedde@Oslo.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Subject: Re: to jacquet@lisisun.univ-lyon1-fr.
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:37:54 GMT

juoncatherin@bvc.edu writes:

<<After reading LOTS of almost identical articles!!>>

Man! You could have made ONE article of all this, and added those names
in the same article. With 1200 baud it is a pain to page through loads of
personal stuff like that. Just lettin' you know...

Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
From: edsum02@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Cassondra Pope)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: DAS EFX, House of Pain
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:36:00 GMT
Distribution: alt.rap
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <SCHNIZER.92Aug22150439@hakobe.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>, schnizer@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Schnizer Ansgar) writes...
>I called a friend in a long distance call from Kyoto to
>N.Y. and among other things I told her that I bought
>CD's of A Tribe called Quest, Ultramagnetics and Spice 1
>after reading a Newsgroup thing on a computer. 
> She told me that from now on I better listen to her 
>and to go to the record shop to buy records of Arrester
>(spelling?), DAS EFX and House of Pain. 
> She works for the state radio of a small European republic
>(whose name temporarily eludes me) and I reckon she rather
>knows whats going on. Still I would like to know if anybody
>could comment on the (supposingly recent) CD's of Arrester,
>DAS EFX or House of Pain and if it is worth spending any
>money on them.
> 
>

Das Efx -->YES
House of Pain --> ?? (is that rap?)
Arrester --> ditto (do you mean Arrested Development? --> if so, YESSS!)

BUY DAS EFX AND ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT!!!!!!
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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (david j warner)
Subject: Don't Curse (was Re: DAS EFX)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:31:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.074409.17812@rose.com> jeff.beaty@rose.com (jeff beaty) writes:

>I don't get why they write lyrics with swearing then slur or beep them 
>out.  If they say the word "fuck" for rhyme sake, then it should be 
>left in.  "fuck" does not rhyme with "cufk" (slurred) or "BEEP" 
>(beeped).  If it ain't gonna be on the album then don't put it in the 
>lyrics.
>
>"Some musicians cus' at home, 
> but scared to use profanity when upon the microphone"
>
>                                -NWA "Express Yourself"
>
>I suppose this is the perfect quote for what I am saying.

"Poetry I speak, fluently I lead.
 You's a sucker, 'cause the only word you know is 'motherfucker'.
 Yo, you don't see your whole race in bondage.
 No, you grab the microphone and feedin' 'em garbage."

				-KRS-1, "Duck Down"

There's always going to be that sect in the music industry that doesn't want
to hear swearing in the music.  Of course, you can't tell what DAS EFX is
saying anyway, so who's going to notice a slur or two?

Eazy E's quote does have some validity, though.  You should have heard me swear
up a storm after we had just finished the Daily Student sports front by 10:30,
then Jose Canseco got traded and we had to start all over again.  Man, that
messed us all up.

>One other thing, EPMD has some cursing censored while some is left in.
>Do what NWA does, make versions without cursing so at least the lyrics 
>sound nateral.

And do every album like that fuck-up Luke Campbell???? No way!



-- 
- David J. --------- BLUE RIDDLE PRODUCTIONS.  Bloomington, IN; Durham, NC. -
- e-mail: dwarner@miami.ucs.indiana.edu -------------------------------------
***************** "RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE" ********************
***************** BRP's debut 12" single -- coming soon  ********************
From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: NEW LP's this year
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:04:01 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Don't forget PE's remix LP., "Pubic Enemy's Greatest Misses" on
September 25th
From: juoncatherin@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: beastie update
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:17:38 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

P.S. from MC Flash X.  I'm on JuonCatherin, so don't be confused.  I am 
temporarily using a friends log to be on this.  And about the Beastie Boys, 
they were just in Des Moines (IA) with heavy-metal female trio L7.  Nobody 
I know was there, so I don't know if it was any good or not.  Anyway, peace
!
From: behan@coos.dartmouth.edu (Patrick Kalaher)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Cypress Hill...do you like?
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:19:55 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

timm@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Tim McClarren) writes:

>I was just sitting here listening to the 2nd track from Return of
>The Product and Serch mentions liking Cypress Hill...I dunno, do
>y'all like this crew?  Everytime I listen to 'em they remind of
>the one hood in the first Kid & Play flick with the really whiny
>voice: "Yeaaaaaa........"


>-- 
>Tim McClarren     | "...a bajillion brilliant Jobsian lithium licks."
>timm@ncsa.uiuc.edu|
>(217)244-0015     |

Cypress Hill is dopeness itself.
-"How I could Just Kill a Man"
-"Hand on the Pump"
-"Hand on the Glock" (Remix of "...Pump", BETTER imho.
-"Real Estate"
-"Funky Cypress Hill Shit"
-"Shoot 'em Up"<-- Juice Soundtrack
-Almost everything else.

-pbk
--
Patrick Brendan Kalaher, Dartmouth 1991. behan@coos.dartmouth.edu
No Justice, No Peace.  (Take it Personal)
Moving to Georgetown soon... D.C.; the last plantation on the mainland.
I'm glad that I'll be absolved of my *burden* to vote for a President...
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From: timm@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Tim McClarren)
Subject: Re: Lyrics: MC Serch: Here it -comes!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:53:22 GMT

pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey) writes:

>So turn to the next Virginia manual and flim-flam, all over the jam

Errata: Virginia = page in your  (What's a Virginia manual?)

Peace.

-- 
Tim McClarren     | "...a bajillion brilliant Jobsian lithium licks."
timm@ncsa.uiuc.edu|
(217)244-0015     |
From: juoncatherin@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: post
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:57:05 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA


This is MC Flash X.  I just got invited to supper with the head of the 
computer dept. here, so I still won't be able to personally respons to all 
of the messages yet, but don't fret! I will tonight hopefully at 9:00 
Central time,  I gotta be audi, so check y'all later.

'Just like the prodigal son I've returned
Anyone steppin' to me you'll get burned'  House of Pain, Jump Around

Peace, the X-Man
From: juoncatherin@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: to asylum@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Date: 29 Aug 92 11:00:50 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA


Asylum (is that you're name?) this is MC Flash X.  My computer mail is 
fucked up, so I'm posting you a note.  I'll be back sometime Friday, perhaps
late afternoon.  If you have any news or letters that you want to reach me
before then, this is my address.

Mr. Steven J. Juon
2209 350th Street
Stanhope, IA 50246

Other than that, I'll answer all of my e-mail Friday.  Catch you then,
and I'm audi like Doody Howdy :-)

"Hardcore will never die" Public Enemy - Lost at Birth
"I'm harder than a hard-on..." Das EFX - East Coast

Peace from the X-man.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: femibyte@athena.mit.edu (Olufemi G Anthony)
Subject: Fushnickens
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:14:07 GMT


Who or what is a fushnick?

Femi.
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: NWA
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



	NWA was all solo earlier this year.  But they are still a group
and still together.  In fact they are droppin a new album in December.

						Dark Knight
From: juoncatherin@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Thankx for the responses! :-)
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:56:27 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

This is MC Flash X, here with some more 411.  Sorry I can't reply to 
everybody individually right now, but hopefully I will get a chance to 
later.  Needless to say, I'm ecstatic :) about all of the repsonse I've 
gotten.  As to how C.O.R.E. would be set up, I was thinking of making it a 
newsletter available on alt.rap free and through the mail for a very 
minimal fee (just my S&H, I'm not doing this for profit, I'm doin it for love 
of hip-hop), with contributions to the newsletter by all members of C.O.R.E 
who are interested in sharing news and views.  I guess it would be kind of 
like The Source, except oriented around the consumer end rather than the 
business end, if you catch my drift.  And of course it would also have 
articles about things going on hip-hop besides music.  How many people have 
ever heard about Larry Milton?  He's a brother who got beat down by the 
police in Des Moines FOR NO REASON!!!  89.3 KUCB's manger (KUCB is rap 
radio in Des Moines) Kalaanji Saadiq 
has been protesting at City Hall meetings, and calls for a Police Review 
board, but they just keep hauling him to jail.  As P.E. would say, we've 
got to fight the powers that be!  Also, I don't have any problem with       
hip-hop being called rap, it's just that I consider hip-hop the correct 
name.  Either one is fine.  

Before I go, here's a little conversation piece.  How many people think 
that Big Daddy Kane has crossed over and fell off since he started doing 
R&B?  I didn't much like 'Prince of Darkness', but 'Nuff Respect' on the 
Juice soundtrack was all that!  He should be making more songs like that, 
not less.  Opinions please!  Hopefully, I'll be back at 4:00 my time to 
talk to everybody.  Last but not least a short rhyme.  A Tribe Called 
Quest's new song is Hot Sex, I like it but I still want EFX, they're both 
dope groups, Word to Malcolm X!  I'm audi like CFC's in the ozone, peace!
 
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: Damon.Lynch@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Damon Lynch)
Subject: Radio Active in NZ wants your help
Originator: dlynch@rinascimento.comp.vuw.ac.nz
Organization: Computer Science Department, Victoria University
Keywords: Radio, NZ
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:23:35 GMT


Radio Active is a student radio station located in Wellington, New Zealand.  We
play a wide range of music, with rap being fundamental to the sound.  They want to
make contact with US stations.  Since they can't afford email at this stage, I am
the one who is doing it.

When one thinks of NZ music, most no doubt think of guitar bands like Straitjacket
Fits, the Chills, the Clean etc.  But NZ music is far more varied than that, with a
wide range of styles being embraced by musicians and listeners alike.

Perhaps the best known NZ hip-hop outfit are MC OJ and Rhythm Slave, being Otis
John Frizzell and Mark Williams.  They live in Auckland and began rapping in
mid-1989.  MC OJ and Rhythm Slave have defied categorisation by creating their own
definitive style and sound as a personalised trademark.  The funky pair have played
extensively around Auckland and in July shared the Redhead Kingpin support slot
with Upper Hutt Posse and Total Effect.

If you can help, don't hesitate and email me.  Active would like to exchange ideas,
music, trends, whatever.  We are keen to hear from you.


Damon
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz)
Subject: Stores in Tampa, Florida
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:38:30 GMT

Yo,
I'm going to Florida within the next few months and I want to pick up
a few 7's that I can't get here in Ireland. Anyone know of stores in 
Tampa, Florida where I can stock up on some dope beats. Do shops keep
singles for more than a few weeks or do mc's usually sample the 12's?
Here's what I'm lookin' for (at the moment). The list'll be a lot larger
by the time I leave here....

Definition of Sound      - "Wear your love like heaven"
Eric B & Rakim           - "Don't sweat the technique"
NWA                      - "100 miles and running"
House of Pain            - "Jump around"
Gang Starr               - "Ex girl to the next girl"
EPMD                     - "Crossover"
Bushwick Bill            - "Ever so clear"
Geto Boys                - "Mind playin' tricks on me"

Some of these may not be singles. I saw them all on YO as that's my only 
source of relatively up to date tunes. I'd prefer to buy them as singles
cuz there's 'bout $100 of albums there. Quite limiting. Also, could anyone
mail me the albums that these trax are on?

Thanks in advance,

Judge Raz

From: gumby@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Grim Reaper)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:42:59 GMT
Subject: Re: En Vogue/Arrested Developmeant Tour Dates????
Organization: The Edge of Sanity
Newsgroups: alt.rap


'Sup?

 So what's your point??, the moral to this story is........


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 Run, Run, Run, your time is done son, move out for the well hung young one
 - Mixalot

 I'm back in effect hows that, i'm not Teddy Riley but i'm swinging like a
 newjack - EPMD

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Farrakan?
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 08:05:17 GMT

	Please forgive the interruption, but I am looking for information
on Louis Farrakan (Please forgive me if I spelled his name wrong), could 
anyone direct me to an appropriate newsgroup of where I might find this info!

				Much Appreciated,
				Casey Hopkins
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 12:00:28 CDT
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: New PUBLIC ENEMY album
 <1992Aug30.205402.8698@morrow.stanford.edu>
 <gecfBU600UhW87uKJG@andrew.cmu.edu>

The garbage you heard is one the original (album) version of Black Sheep's
"Strobelight Honey", and I agree, it's quite dismal... They have two remixes
(that I've heard)... the other is a watered-down HOUSE remix that sounds worse
than the original, and one is a hip-hop flavored version... the hip-hop version
is the phattest of the versions, with more of an emphasis on Dres' lyrics and
less emphasis on music... call me a minimalist, but that's what I like...

Incidentally, does anyone know when LL is gonna drop any new stuff? If he does,
he HAS TO GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THAT DAMNED CROSSOVER BULLSHIT!!!!  For him to
regain my respect, he has to do a lot more songs like "I Be Gettin' Busy" (From
Marley's album) and less (LOTS LESS) of that "Around the Way/Why Me" R&BS and
he DEFINITELY has to CEASE WITH THE DISNEY PRODUCTS!!! "Who's Afraid of the Big
Bad Wolf" was one of the worst things I've ever heard from any "hardcore"
artist period.
Peace, from The Minister Of Rage, straight outta Chi-Town...
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (david j warner)
Subject: Re: DAS EFX
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:21:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.072857.17356@rose.com> jeff.beaty@rose.com (jeff beaty) writes:

>It is obvious that a lot of people like DAS EFX right?  I bought the 
>CD a while back and like it is slammin' n' all that...but one thing 
>bothers me about the album.  All the cussin' is slurred.  It is not 
>like I am advocating the use of that language, but how did this come 
>about?  I could just imagine DAS EFX in a meeting with EASTWEST 
>RECORDS AMERICA...some executive guy goes: "Hey guys! I got an idea! 
>Let's slur all them cus words out of your album!"  DAS EFX: "Why?"
>Executive: "Well if you have no swearing you will get radio play and 
>lots more record sales...Mo' Money!" DAS EFX: "Mo' Money? All we gotta 
>do is slur the cussin'?  Alright, let's do it!"

Well, swearing is usually a matter of personal preference.  CL Smooth wasn't
down with it and asked Elektra to bleep some of the stuff on "Mecca and the
Soul Brother."  Then again, the decision not to curse also incorporates the
idead that, yes, you will get the airplay if you play straight, *and* you won't
get the Tipper Gore seal of disapproval on your album.  Personally, I don't
curse on a song (except an occasional freestyle) because I don't think it's
really necessary to sell a record aside from shock value.

As long as the hip hop is straight though, airplay does not equal sell out.
Heavy D & Chubb Rock both have good lyrics on the issue.

5000...





-- 
- David J. --------- BLUE RIDDLE PRODUCTIONS.  Bloomington, IN; Durham, NC. -
- e-mail: dwarner@miami.ucs.indiana.edu -------------------------------------
***************** "RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE" ********************
***************** BRP's debut 12" single -- coming soon  ********************
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: NEW LP's this year
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:03:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug26.072831.24530@rose.com>, jeff.beaty@rose.com (jeff beaty) writes...
> 
>Date Entered: 08-26-92 03:21
>From: jeff.beaty@rose.com
>Newsgroups: alt.rap
>Subject: NEW LP's this year
> 
>V |->                THE LENCHMOB--"GUERRILLAS IN THE MIST"  --NOVEMBER
> 
>Is The Lench Mob as in ICe Cube and The Lench Mob?  Just without the 
>Cube?


	Yeah, it's the same Lenchmob, but WITH Cube.  It's kind of a group
album.  Like "Colorblind" on "Death Certificate".  I suppose the songs
will be mostly split up between them like NWA did on the "Straight Outta 
Compton" album, with a couple of group songs.  There is an ad for it in
the latest Source mag (with EPMD on the cover), check it out for yourself.

							Amil
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: Was Too $hort dissed?! + How doIe-mail
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:33:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.202033.1844@bvc.edu> juoncatherin@bvc.edu writes:
>By the way, did anybody see the new Rolling Stone, Issue 639?  On page 96 
>some idiot named Danyel Smith dissed Too $hort.  This fool said the album 
>was misogynist and scary, and the album got a 2?!  Maybe it is misogynist, 
>but so is a lot of good hip-hop, such as N.W.A., Black Sheep, etc.

Well, if you've heard the CD, you know what's up. It's a question of
context. Let's just say that Too Short didn't grow up in Dan Quayle's
neighborhood. We're talking lots of hoes and pimps action. Now some
people call that misogynistic and non-Christian, and bad middle-class to
upper-class family values and all that kind of shit, but some other
people call it reality. You can candy coat it if you want, Too Short
just calls it like it is. If you don't know where he's from, you might
be shocked. Of course the people who do get shocked just try to deny it
and cover it up and censor it, instead of trying to solve the problems.
What else is new? Look, I gotta go, it's the strobelight.

>Peace! I'm audi like Pat Buchanan.

Yeah, too bad he doesn't know that. Seems like he's in with a bullet,
the new kid on the block if you like. You want to be out-TI! like Ross
Perot, now there's a guy who knows how to drive a 5000! I gots to step,
with the viscosity.
Organization: Sophomore, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA