From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Subject: Re: The Analogy Betwixt Gays & Blacks (Re: Children in Same-gender Families)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:14:28 CST

In article <1gp00hINNi86@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.100149.24033@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE>, k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai) writes:
>|> In article <1glf73INNa02@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>|> >In article <1992Dec15.093547.16763@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE>, k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai) writes:
>|> >|> In article <14DEC199213373618@zeus.tamu.edu> rlc1028@zeus.tamu.edu writes:
>|> >|> >In article <645@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes...
>|> >|> >| 
>|> >|> >	There is a distinction between Gay identity and Gay behaviour.
>|> >|> [...]
>|> >|> >
>|> >|> >	Gays are like Blacks in that there is something about them,
>|> >|> >irrespective of thier behaviour, which they cannot seem to change.  In 
>|> >|> >particular, Gays are sexually responsive to members of their own gender.
>|> >|> >They cannot love members of the opposite gender in the same capacity.
>|> >|> >This is a trait which they are either born with or acquire sometime before
>|> >|> >they have an awareness of it.  
>|> >|> >
>|> >|> >	Blacks cannot, without much effort, change their skin colour,
>|> >|> >and Gays cannot change their gender attraction.
>|> >|> >
>|> >|> On the contrary, I have known several "gay" people who rejected 
>|> >|> homosexual practices and are now heterosexuals. Whether or not
>|> >|> they still feel "attracted" to same gender relationships is a point
>|> >|> of debate (they claim to me that they're not).
>|> >
>|> >Jeepers.   Talk about missing the point by a mile.
>|> >
>|> On the contrary, I have a very clear idea of what the original point was/is.
>|> I was merely trying to point out that the analogy may not be totally
>|> consistent. If anyone missed anything here I believe it was you.
>
>
>      +	"....Gays cannot change their gender attraction."
>
>
>      +	"On the contrary, I have known several "gay" people who ........
>	......Whether or not they still feel "attracted" to same gender 
>	relationships is a point of debate (they claim to me that they're 
>	not)"
>
Yeah, I was trying to make it clear that I was personally undecided
as to whether or not these people had made a genuine conversion to
heterosexuality but if true, it would seem to contradict the original
comment. Again what's *your* point here? I'm here to exchange ideas
with people and find out why they believe the way they do, not to
lecture people on points of debate technique. Nor am I taking an
opposing viewpoint to the main point of the original post. Do you
have anything to add to the conversation or are you just interested in
nit-picking?

Jeez, talk about wasting bandwidth...

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