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From: v999rvdf@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (CHIEN-MING KUO)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: need Steve Kuhn info
Date: 8 Nov 92 01:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

The first contact with Kuhn's music was a tune called Rain_Forest
played on the radio several years ago. I don't think his is main-
stream jazz, because his music is much tinted with classic style.
However, I still enjoy his music. Can someone can give a full dico-
graphy of his recording and your personal comment or recommendation?
much obliged.

chien-ming kuo
From: jwinsch@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (john winsch)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Monty Alexander
Keywords: whereabouts
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:39:59 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University


	Anyone out there know what Monty Alexander is up to these
   days ? Thanks.
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From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: Coltrane: Dear Lord
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:44:11 GMT

John Thomas (jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain) wrote:
: 
: Just curious, but was wondering -- how did you come across this song
: if you didn't know which of Coltrane's albums it was on?  Have you been
: listening to Crispell's LIVE IN ZURICH recently... :)

I know of "Dear Lord" because it is on a Jamey Aebersold accompaniment album.
So I've played it, but never heard it.

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From: ouij@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Luigi Perrotta)
Subject: Re: DIxie Dregs old material
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:49:56 GMT

In article <korins-071192171708@branford-college-node.net.yale.edu> korins@pop.cis.yale.edu (Russ Korins) writes:
>Was there an album called something like "The Best of the Dixie Dregs" from
>maybe 1986 or 87?  I'm trying to find it and, even though it seems to be
>out of print, thought someone might know about it here.
>

There are two dreg compilations: 'Divided we Stand' from arista records
and another one which I belive is what may be refering to. The latter
is worth getting since it contains the live version of 
"refried funky chicken". that album was released by Grand Slam records
and should still be in print.  


ouij

PS Jerry Goodman will be playing fiddle on the tonight show. 
-- 
				ouij@math.mcgill.ca
From: sjg@kepler.unh.edu (Stephen J Guerra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Whateverhappenedto...Gato Barbieri?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:56:46 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

 Let me say this about GAto Barbeiarie(or however you spell it)..

Mr B.. First of all is not a main influence on Saxophonists today..Far from it.
As a young saxophonist i try to stay away from a lot of the cr*p that is out there..
And i will tell you that he is definateley a lot of that crap out there today.
Besides Being very over-showy, he plays with no excitement. He is not what I
consider a top saxophonist of today or any day. Any sax player will tell you
close to the same. People like Dexter, Coltrane, Sonny Stitt, Hank Mobley, Getz
can be used in the same sentence with a role-model NOT Gato.
His latest album i believe is incredibly lame. Sure some big names are on their
like Randy Brecker but they are not showcased. He has better musicians playing nn the pit orchestra than he is.

And he did not developed the growl....Ever listen to Lester Young? Coleman Hawkins? these guys used the growl before Gato was a twinkle in his mothers eye..

I am appalled at this...

What about Phil Woods, Charlie Parker, Red Hollaway?
BRANFORD MARSALIS....I know lots of young sax players who would rather listen to 
KENNY G than Gato...Maybe in Canada things are different...

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From: korins@pop.cis.yale.edu (Russ Korins)
Subject: Re: DIxie Dregs old material
Followup-To: rec.music.bluenote
Organization: Yale University (Class of 1994)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:30:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.024956.21539@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>,
ouij@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Luigi Perrotta) wrote:
> 
> In article <korins-071192171708@branford-college-node.net.yale.edu> korins@pop.cis.yale.edu (Russ Korins) writes:
> >Was there an album called something like "The Best of the Dixie Dregs" from
> >maybe 1986 or 87?  I'm trying to find it and, even though it seems to be
> >out of print, thought someone might know about it here.
> >
> 
> There are two dreg compilations: 'Divided we Stand' from arista records
> and another one which I belive is what may be refering to. The latter
> is worth getting since it contains the live version of 
> "refried funky chicken". that album was released by Grand Slam records
> and should still be in print. 

Yeah, that's the one I meant!  The one by Grand Slam.  Does anyone have it?
 If you do, could you e-mail me the address of Grand Slam records?  Thanks!
 
--------------
Russ Korins, PO Box 520 Yale Station, New Haven CT 06520-0520
korins@pop.cis.yale.edu
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From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Subject: Re: Rahsaan Roland Kirk - Info Please
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 19:41:54 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

Yep, he's incredible.  I dug him so much that I spent $130US on "Rahsaan" - 
The complete Mercury Recordings of Roland Kirk (on CD).  It's 11 discs, and
IMHO there's only one bad disc (the one with the Quincy Jones VERY commercial
recordings).  It also comes with a 58 page booklet with many pictures and
discography, many *UNRELEASED* and out of print tracks. 
Since someone asked, here's the "ROLAND KIRK on Mercury/Limelight/Smash"
discog...

We Free Kings
Domino
Reeds and Deeds
The Roland Kirk quartet meets Benny Golson
Kirk in Copenhagen [awesome stuff]
Gifts and Messages
I talk with the Spirits
Rip, Rig & Panic [another killer cd]
Slightly Latin
Buck in Town/Tubby Hayes
Feel Real/Eddie Baccus
Kirk's Work
Mercury VSOP Album
<with Quincy Jones:> [these are WEAK IMHO]
Hip Hits
Big Band Bossa Nova
Mancini Song Book
We had a Ball

If you want more info on the Rahsaan box, let me know.

-- 
 _____________________________________________________________________________
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| "Nuke the unborn gay whales!" |  millerje@cs.colostate.edu  |  Jeff Miller  |
|_____________________________________________________________________________|
From: milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: "I want some seafood, Mama!!"
Date: 6 Nov 1992 19:58:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: scofield.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Nov6.164001.10979@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  ) writes:
>The question is: where did this song come from, and who
>performs it??!!  
>	It sounds like very early jazz / blues type stuff, very scratchy
>recording, and the refrain goes:  "I want some seafood, Mama!"  Various
>other parts of the song go on to expound the writer's fondness for fish,
>seafood, shrimp, oysters, etc.  Kinda wierd, very catchy, and a great
>laugh!  Another part of the song goes: "When I come home, late at night,
>I prepare my favorite dish ... FISH!"  What a hoot!  
>	A mutual friend's father said he thought it might be Count Basie
>and his orchestra, but this has not been confirmed.  Any help, clues or
>whatever would be appreciated.  Post or e-mail is fine I guess.  

The song is "Hold Tight" -- the full text of the refrain (as best I can
duplicate it in text) is:

  Hold tight, hold tight,
  Hold tight hold tight BRRRRRakasak
  I want some seafoooood, Mama!

I first heard this sung by Fats Waller, from the 1930s no doubt.  I later
heard a version by the Andrews Sisters, which was probably a bigger seller
than the Fats version.  But from the sound of your description (no gender
indicated), I'd bet that it was Fats.

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From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: What ARE the 3-4 Essential Coltrane Impulse Sessions
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:46:54 GMT

Jeff Marder (jeff@godzilla.quotron.com) wrote:
: what are the most important, most listenable Impulse discs.  Forget
: the Alice Coltrane, Rashed Ali doodling.  I'm talking about Coltrane's
: playing, not squacking.   
: 
: Thanks.  btw, outside of the opening movement, i found "A Love Supreme"
: fairly uninteresting.

Well, you've certainly narrowed things down.  If you found "A Love Supreme"
fairly uninteresting, I'll assume it is because you are not impressed with his
modal style on that album, which I suppose you could dismiss as "totally
exhausting the possibilities of the pentatonic scale".  It is pretty hard to
argue with the energy level, though.  For me, the second movement is the most
powerful.  As you may have noticed from recent posts, the net appears nearly
unanimous in picking "A Love Supreme" as the most important album from that
quartet, so you'll probably get a few other puzzled responses.

If you want something more like, say "Giant Steps", with more of a bebop
flavor than "A Love Supreme", you're almost out of luck.  Perhaps "Ballads"
comes closest in this respect.  Maybe the album called simply "Coltrane" (or
is that "Quartet"?  damn! - the one with "Soul Eyes" and "Inchworm") is more
boppish than some of the others as well.  The live recordings at Birdland and
the Village Vanguard have their boppish moments, but on the whole, you may find
them too "out" if you don't like the second and third movement of "A Love
Supreme".

If you do enjoy the modalism of the first movement, but consider the second
and third too harsh, you may possibly find "Crescent" more to your liking.
It's hard to say.

--
Amendment 2 - Shame On You, Colorado
--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
--
a disgusted resident of the first state in history of the union
to enact a constitutional amendment that explicitly legalizes discrimination
against a particular minority
--
All opinions expressed herein are my personal ones
and do not necessarily reflect those of HP or anyone else.
From: milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Miles in the Sky
Date: 5 Nov 1992 16:26:07 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: scofield.corp.sun.com

Various sources, including ICE, reported that Miles Davis'
"Miles in the Sky" (from about 1969) was supposed to be
released on CD several weeks ago, but it still hasn't
appeared.  Does anyone know what happened?
From: hum@cs.concordia.ca (HUM william)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: can someone tell me who sings this song?
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:44:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

If anyone saw A Different World last thursday, they played a song near the
end which Dwayne and his wife lip synched to.  I think they said it was
by Ray Charles.  Anyway, it was a duet with a woman who had a very hoarse
voice and the only line I remember is "...it's cold outside..."  I know
I'm not telling you very much but if by chance anyone knows which CD I can
find it on, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Will.

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From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: Coltrane Recordings
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:44:22 GMT

Ray J Cornwall (cornwall@bach.udel.edu) wrote:
: I also am interested in which Coltrane recordings are good. I've just
: recently started listening to jazz, and am currently enjoying Coltrane
: and Davis. I've got Coltrane's Giant Steps, Blue Train, My Favorite
: Things, Village Vanguard, Birdland, and A Love Supreme. I had Om, but
: hated it and sold it back. I also have Miles' Kind of Blue and Birth
: of the Cool.
: Given these tastes, which Coltrane and Davis CD's (I don't have a
: record player or a reliable cassette deck) should I look into?
: Thanks. I hope the focus of this question is different from other
: recent inquiries...

Slightly, and I think yours is easier.  Simply look at the recording date for
"A Love Supreme" and buy anything of Trane's before that date.  The Impulse
recordings will mostly sound like the latter four you mention, and the others
will mostly sound like the first two.  Everything after "A Love Supreme" will
sound like "Om".  These are terrible oversimplifications, and I'll probably get
roasted for them, but I think I have some idea where you're coming from.

As for Miles, I suggest you try out "Miles Smiles".  If you like that, you'll
probably also like "E.S.P.", "Nefertiti", or "Sorcerer", as well as any of the
live albums with that group (Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter, Tony
Williams).  This group has a more modern sound than "Kind Of Blue" or "Birth
Of The Cool", with freer chord structures and melodic ideas, but really no more
so than the Impulse Coltrane recordings you have.  Especially look into the
recordings with Coltrane: "Workin' With The Miles Davis Quintet" (plus
"Cookin", "Relaxin", and "Steamin"), "Round About Midnight", "Milestones", and
a few others - mostly live recordings.  And, as with Coltrane and "A Love
Supreme", you'll probably enjoy anything you can find that was recorded before
"Sorcerer".  After that came various forays into fusion, which you may go for
and may not.

--
Amendment 2 - Shame On You, Colorado
--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
--
a disgusted resident of the first state in history of the union
to enact a constitutional amendment that explicitly legalizes discrimination
against a particular minority
--
All opinions expressed herein are my personal ones
and do not necessarily reflect those of HP or anyone else.
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From: anton@HQ.Ileaf.COM (steve norton)
Subject: Re: rara avis/random thoughts: evan parker & john stevens
Reply-To: anton@HQ.Ileaf.COM (steve norton)
Organization: interleaf, inc., waltham, ma, usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:56:10 GMT

In some article, smehta@nynexst.com writes:
> 
> > anton@HQ.Ileaf.COM (steve norton) writes:
> 
> >						it was recorded on the
> > longest night of 1976, (must have been june 21 or thereabouts), and
> 
> Actually, it has to be December in the Northern hemisphere but
> anyway... ;-)

urg--did i write that?! :-)  i've gotta stop posting while in a fog
(like right now--more coffee)... 


> :-)) Stevens' "skittery" and "dense" style is, to me, not entirely
> unusual 

no, i didn't mean to imply entirely unusual.  he reminds me here a
little of lovens or oxley, although with a much more restricted
palette. (except for that cornet :-)


>					Not my favorite Parker
> album either. The prize from that vinyl binge goes to the
> Schlippenbach/Parker/Lovens trio live in Pisa on the PO Torch label.

hey, this is the _Elf Bagatellen_ band--how does it compare to that
album?


> A more interesting Stevens album, albeit in a very different vein, is
> INTEGRATION. It has a rock edge to it which is somewhat interesting
> on side 1 where the 2 guitars dominate and the longer piece is
> basically a loose open-ended jam. Side 2 retains the edge but has the
> sax player stepping in and trying to lead the overall sound into more
> adventurous terrain. Worth the $5 I paid for it.

i'm definitely interested...
-- 

/steve
From: geoffb@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Geoff Benton)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:40:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Brecker Bros. (was Great shows at the Bluenote in NYC)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard SSG/CCSY-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote

> As an aside, has anybody actually got a copy of Mike Stern's album
> "Standards" yet? I'd be interested to hear whether my impressions
> of him at the BBs gig are borne out on vinyl.

Martin, I haven't got 'Standards' but I have got "odds and evens" (I think
that's the name) and it's really great! He's an interesting guitar player and
he has some great drummers on this album.

Get a listen...

Enjoy....
Geoff Benton
___________________
HP Pinewood (PWD)
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From: alans@ll.mit.edu (Alan Jay Stein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Mike Stern (was Brecker Bros. show and something else I forgot)
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:56:47 GMT
	<1992Nov12.105158.1723@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>
Organization: MIT/Lincoln Lab - Radars R Us

As you may recall, On 12 Nov 92 10:51:58 -0500, mchenry@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu said:

Bill> In article <37090002@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, geoffb@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Geoff Benton) writes:
>> As an aside, has anybody actually got a copy of Mike Stern's album
>> "Standards" yet? I'd be interested to hear whether my impressions
>> of him at the BBs gig are borne out on vinyl.
> 
> Martin, I haven't got 'Standards' but I have got "odds and evens" (I think
> that's the name) and it's really great! He's an interesting guitar player and
> he has some great drummers on this album.
> 

Bill> I enjoy his earlier album Jigsaw much more than Odds and Evens.
Bill> It seems to me that he is just repeating a formula on Odds and
Bill> Evens...

I have a tape of a Japanese release of Stern's called "High
Standards". This is IMHO his best stuff. It was recorded prior to 85
(because that's when I obtained it), but I don't know too much about
the recording date at all. This album (and another named "Neesh") were
all the rage at Berklee when I was hanging around there, and a bass
player I was playing with got me a copy.

"High Standards" is standards (Peace Piece and Moment's Notice among
others). Guitar, Sax, Piano, Bass, Drums quintet [I don't know who,
anybody have info?] "Neesh" is Guitar trio and is more like Stern's US
released albums. I would recommend both of these, compared to what
he's put out on US discs ("Mood Swings" excepted :-) I especially like
"High Standards" - it's listenable but not trivial, and Stern just cooks!
--
Alan J.Stein             MIT/Lincoln Laboratory             alans@ll.mit.edu

"Good afternoon, this is your captain speaking.  I would like to remind you 
that according to FAA regulations, this flight has been declared a non smoking 
flight.  If you absolutely must light up, you are invited to step outside."
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Subject: Re: Glenn Spearman/Raphe Malik in San Francisco
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:48:25 PST
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu
Distribution: world

In article <GSTOVALL.92Nov11114737@lager.cisco.com>  writes:
> the opening band, Blowjob, was great.  They're a 15 piece wind and
> percussion band, sorta like an improv version of a New Orleans marching
> band.  The members were kinda of a who's who in the Bay Area improv
> scene, led by David Slusser and Ralph Carney. Twisted marches and all
> out free jazz.  

Yeah I liked Blowjob as well (how could I not like a band with a name
like that?) The quieter, more subtle pieces didn't work so well in
the noisy confines of the Heinz, but the loud and swaggering pieces
were great. They remind me of some of those loose wacked-out bigband
projects that come out of the Euro-improv scene.

Some of the other participants included Dan Plonsey of Manufacturing
of Humidifiers (hi Dan!), Dave Barrett from Splatter Trio, Beth Custer
and Ben Goldberg on clarinets.

Bill
From: plummer@cs.swarthmore.edu (David Barker-Plummer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Jazz/Bach fusion?
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:27:46 GMT
	<1992Nov11.013219.17179@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
	<1992Nov11.050000.20363@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
	<1992Nov11.135930.12715@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA

>>>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:59:30 GMT, rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) said:

RD> Bach is probably the "classical" composer whose works are most
RD> adapted to a jazz setting. It must be something about the simple
RD> yet perfect harmony and counterpoint of JS Bach's music which
RD> makes it so desireable for jazz artists. One fairly obscure
RD> example of this is the Thomas Gabriel Trio's Bachjazz. Its very
RD> nice; in general the pieces start off with the Bach played
RD> straight up on piano, which then leads into a jazzy piano trio.

This sounds a lot like Jacques Loussier's work.  Loussier's trio
"jazzes" bach in this way, again usually with the vanilla arrangement
to start.  Its a neat trick for about ten minutes, but when you have
heard it done, you don't need to hear it again.

-- Dave
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From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Subject: Re: Cadence Magazine
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Distribution: na,world
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:42:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.105811.1724@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>, mchenry@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>> The point is that Cadence is a great magazine...
>
>Please post the subscription information for Cadence. Thank you.

Cadence
Cadence Bldg.
Redwood, NY 13679-9612

Tel.: (315) 287-2852
FAX:  (315) 287-2860

Subscriptions inside the U.S. are $25 ($40 first class).  Subscriptions 
outside the U.S. are $30 ($45 for "air lift").  For subscriptions in 
Australia, Africa and Asia, the cost is $50.

-Lynn  (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)
From: silver.e@zooid.guild.org (Eric Silver)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Whateverhappenedto...Gato Barbieri?
Date:  6 Nov 92 07:33:14 GMT

In your article ;
From: mcgonig@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Gordon McGonigal)
>It's been 8 years (and many more tears) since I heard one of the
>most incredible concerts of my life -- Gato Barbieri at the Spectrum
>in Monteal during the 84 Jazz Fest.

Just as an aside, one Gato's great contributions to JAZZ/BLUES
saxophone playing technique was the addition of the 'GROWL'.
A unique and wonderful signature of his playing style.
The GROWL is done by humming the note at the same time you are
playing. A little difficult to do at first but with practice
it becomes intuitive. Some saxophonists claim 'growling' 3rds, 
5ths, 7ths, 9ths, etc. above the note played helps them pronouce  
partials not 'normally' heard. 
Gato had a large influence on many saxophonists.

Eric Silver - York, Upper, Canada.
From: ingrcfb@bnr.ca (Charles Board)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: can someone tell me who sings this song?
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:06:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <5422@daily-planet.concordia.ca>, hum@cs.concordia.ca (HUM william) writes:
|> If anyone saw A Different World last thursday, they played a song near the
|> end which Dwayne and his wife lip synched to.  I think they said it was
|> by Ray Charles.  Anyway, it was a duet with a woman who had a very hoarse
|> voice and the only line I remember is "...it's cold outside..."  I know
|> I'm not telling you very much but if by chance anyone knows which CD I can
|> find it on, I'd appreciate it.
|> 
|> Thanks in advance.

Ray Charles & Betty Carter - Baby, it's Cold Outside
It's available on "His Greatest Hits,Vol. 2"

|> 
|> Will.
|> 
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