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From: brucet@leland.Stanford.EDU (Bruce Templeton)
Subject: Re: Macs for UNIX lovers
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:28:47 GMT

In article <C012B0.602@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu> ctrbdo@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (bryan d oakley) writes:
>As I have said in other postings (whether you've seen them or not), I
>am a new mac owner.  My roots are in UNIX, mostly of the workstation
>variety (with a smattering of VMS and (argh!) Data General AOS/VS --
>though, why should you care?).  Anyway, I want my mac to have some of
>the 'luxurys' I've grown used to.  For example, I want an emacs clone
>(microemacs?), I would love to gateway email to the net (uucp/uupc?),
>get news (of course!) play my favorite games (moria, hack, various
>startrek incarnations, etc.)  connect to my sun (X, ppp/slip, etc.)
>and so on and so forth.
>

There is an emacs program called uEmacs under 
mac/util/editor/microemacs3.10a.sit.hqx at mac.archive.umich.edu.

There is an excellent e-mail program called Eudora under
info-mac/comm/eudora-122.hqx at sumex-aim.stanford.edu

There is a Macintosh news reader which I have not tried called NewsWatcher at
info-mac/comm/news-watcher-13d6.hqx at sumex-aim.stanford.edu

Various moria, nethack, and startrek games can be found in the 
mac/game/adventure directory at mac.archive.umich.edu.

The best thing a new Mac user can do is check out what is available at sumex
and umich.  Read the indexes for the different directories, these sites have
a lot to offer.

I hope I helped,

-bruce templeton
From: mcrae@husc8.harvard.edu (Andrew McRae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Does the clone of Macintosh still exist?
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:20:51 GMT
Reply-To: mcrae@husc8.harvard.edu
Originator: mcrae@husc8.harvard.edu

In article <105892@bu.edu>, robw@acs.bu.edu (Robert Winchester) writes:
> 
>    Does anyone know if a clone of the Apple Macintosh exists? I remember
> reading about a company that supposedly reversed engineered a binary 
> compatible system (Apple specific chips, software and the like). I can 
> not find the name and address of that company. I doubt it was from the
> people who made the Outbound -- that machine uses/licenses Apple stuff.

This may be pure rumour, but...

I have read of a machine called a "Jonathan", made in Singapore (or
Taiwan?), which was precisely what you describe. The story was that the
country in question isn't a signatory to international copyright and
patent conventions, so there was nothing Apple could do about it. Of
course, importing such a thing into just about any other country,
including the U.S., is likely to get the importer into very hot water
indeed -- the thing I read referred to a number of students who had
decided that the machine was a good deal, and had tried to take them to
the U.S. only to have them confiscated.

I think it was in "Newsweek", about 1988.

-- 
Andrew McRae                       Internet: mcrae@husc.harvard.edu
                                     Bitnet: mcrae@HUSC
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:20992 comp.text.tex:14382 comp.lang.postscript:6061
From: zaidel@muzungu.cis.upenn.edu (Martin J. Zaidel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.text.tex,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Can't print MacDraw figs with psfig
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:15:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Our users often generate postscript figures with MacDrawII, then transfer them
over to our Unix machines, where the figures are included in Latex documents
with \psfig, and printed with Tomas Rokicki's dvips.  This system, though
cumbersome, worked well enough until we upgraded the Mac to System 7.0 from
6.0.  Now we find that the MacDraw postscript figures included with \psfig
don't print out on our Apple IIg printers.  However, they *do* print fine when
they're shipped to the printers by themselves (not wrapped in dvips output).
When the documents are latex'd and then converted to postscript by dvips, the
rest of the text on that page (including, for example, the figure's caption,
done with latex's \caption) is printed all right, but the figure never appears.
We know that the figure has been included in the dvips output, since the
figure appears when previewed with ghostview, but the printers won't print them
out when given the dvips output.  The dvips output files are not so large as
to overflow the printer's memory capacity.

Has anyone seen similar behavior? Any helpful suggestions?  (Besides
getting them to use a Unix drawing program... :-)

Martin
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: History was made today...
Date: 31 Dec 92 01:11:02 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec17.192710.26056@leland.Stanford.EDU>, mongoose@leland.stanford.edu (Ravi Konchigeri) writes...
>Basically, does anyone have any huge complaints about the Mac System that are
>completely unresolvable?

 Well, I've always wanted to be able to move files between volumes with a
 single operation, instead of the
 select-files;copy-files;re-select-files;move-to-trash operation I must do
 now.

 [Yes I know DiskTop can do this, but it's not as convenient. I wonder if
 DiskTop will ever be updated to understand System 7 aliases, he muses...]

 Rich

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: chang hsu liu <cliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Will ants do harm to the computer?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:50:28 GMT


I found 20-30 ants living in the transceiver for the Mac. Although I
couldn't find any in the Mac now, I am afraid they might do this
in the future. Is there any wisdom on this matter? I guess it's not
a good idea to let them live peacefully close to my Mac, but I don't
know a best way to prevent them from doing so. Is there any
chemicals that I could put on the desk that will prevent them even
moving closer to furniture?

Please either post to the Newsgroup or e-mail me the message. I
will post it if I get enough messages.

Thanks in advance.

Peter Liu
cliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Re: **IMPORTANT** System 7.1 Installer bug
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:12:45 GMT

In the paosting of '**IMPORTANT** System 7.1 Installer bug' I said
>When I removed the fonts from the system file and rebooted I gained almost 
>100K of RAM back and 200MB of Hard disk space from what 7.0.dot had used.'
It should read:
When I removed the fonts from the system file and rebooted I gained almost     
100K of RAM back and 200K of Hard disk space from what 7.0.dot had used.' 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: mgreeny@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Greeny)
Subject: Re: Drivin' me nuts! ("in use")
Keywords: help!
Organization: Greeny's Bar & Grill
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:35:51 GMT

wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu (ray wilmott) writes:

The problem is because Freehand/Pagemaker is still OPEN that the file is
marked as "In Use".... Basically, you're probably trying to drag 'n toss
one of the temporary files that Freehand/Pagemaker is using (because
it's open), and the Mac is saying "you can't do that...".

The trick is to either not drag those files to the trash, or to QUIT the
offending application before trying to dump the trash.... A pain, but
that's the way it is...

>----

>Hi all. At least once a day (usually more) my Mac makes me want to
>punch it. Here's the deal - I'm using a IIci and run under Sys 7.0.
>I use Pagemaker and Freehand frequently, so I keep them always open
>for easy access. Quite often I find that I open a file in PM or FH,
>and then at some point later in the day want to delete it. I drag it
>to the trash and go to empty trash, but get a "trash cannot be
>emptied, file is in use" message. This would be desirable if the file
>were still *open*, but this happens even with files that I have
>closed hours before. It seems that the system is remembering that
>"at sometime today the file was opened; therefore it must still be
>in use". Bzzzzz! Wrong! It's not really "in use"; I want it deleted;
>stop hassling me!

>So, does anybody have perhaps a command/option key combo that will
>*force* the trash to empty, regardless of what the system *thinks*
>it should do? Or maybe a ResEdit hack to get around this problem?
>True, it's not that big of a deal - I just have to wait until I
>"quit" PM or FH and *then* empty the trash. But just the same,
>it's drivin' me nuts! :-)



>			-Ray

>wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu
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Western Illinois University, Macomb, IL  61455
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Subject: tutorial - mcvert - bounced mail
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 05:34:24 GMT

To: ctrbdo@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
Subject: Re: mcvert, binhex, file forks tutorial
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc

In article <C011uA.5zA@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu> you write:
>A brief tutorial for a new mac owner, please:
>
>I am a proud papa of a bouncing baby performa 600CD, and have in
>anticipation been grabbing software from the net.  These files are
>typically in .hqx format.  I read that the program mcvert can run on
>my sun (and indeed, it does) to convert .hqx files to MacBinary
>format.  The man page reads mentions data and resource forks, and data
>and rsrc files.  Ok, here's the question:
>
>If I take my .hqx file(s) and convert to MacBinary and somehow manage
>to get these files to my mac, are they ready to go or do the
>MacBinary files require yet another round of translation to become
>executables?  And, what's the deal with the forks?  Just what is a
>fork, and what is it doing in my files...

Yup - they're ready to go. If you are using telnet make sure that MacBinary is
turned on. Forks...well I'm not a techie, but basically mac programs have
a resource fork (menu defs, buttons, strings, diolog boxes, etc) and a data
fork (code (I think)). Nothing to worry about.

>Here's what I observed when I ran mcvert on umoria (after all, I was
>raised on rogue, so moria seemed like a good first choice... :-)
>
>    % mcvert umoria-55.hqx
>    Converting     Moria_1.0.cpt      type = "PACT", author = "CPCT"
>	    Created  Tue Dec 29 09:21:23 1992
>            Modified Tue Dec 29 09:21:23 1992
>
>    -- and sure enough --
>
>    % ls -l Moria*
>    -rw-rw----  1 ctrbdo     330240 Dec 29 09:21 Moria_1.0.cpt.bin
>
>So now what do I do?

get the file onto your mac and decompress the game with Compact Pro.
Compact Pro is a MUST HAVE program for the mac since almost all files are
compressed with it. there should be a file at sumex in the util dir called
compact-pro.sea or something. sea=self extracting archive. So get that, run
it through mcvert, download it to your mac, & decompress it (just double click)

tell me if you have any problems.
mike

p.s. - you should download some quicktime movies - considering all of the 
disk space you have or CD space...you lucky.....   :)

-- 
**************************************************************************
Bjork sounds so good, that if I were a singer trying to make a living today    
I'd shoot myself in desperation of ever equalling her  -  Barbara Ellen, NME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Subject: VRship info
Reply-To: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:04:21 GMT



Call for international participation in new art/science project.
KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
Simulation Room -Mosaic of Mobile Sound Data
We are a group of artists and scientists at the Academy of Media
Arts Cologne,  and will be showing a VR installation in February at
the MEDIALE93 - Festival for Media Arts and Media Future - in
Hamburg, Germany. The installation, housed in the freight ship Cap
San Diego in Hamburg - harbour, has three main areas.
Section one is a sophisticated, walk - in data - base  utilising a
collection of sound samples from around the world, which will be
used to produce a virtual 'sound room'.  The sound data will
correspond to the second section,  a physical room, where visitors
will be able to navigate through the space with the aid of a mobile
ultrasonic sensor and an artificial eye display and activate the data 
to a realtime-concert.
The action of the visitors, within  this 'virtual organism,' will be
displayedon a video screen shown in a control room area (the third
area).
We welcome your participation for the international sound - data -
base: To participate in this international project we need from you a
6 second long sound sample, a cultural statement, reflecting
your personal attitude towards the "world". Please send this via
email or ftp. (aiff, wave, next formats)
All participants and institutions will be credited in a publicly
displayed database during the exhibition.
For more information by email from: kr+cf@khm.uni-koeln.de
Thank you for your support - KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 3 Jan 1993 08:40:22 MST
From: <ICBAL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject:    Adobe strikes back

It appears that Adobe finally decided to stop ignoring the low-cost font
bundles from other vendors (Agfa, etc.) and offer their own low-cost font
bundle. The latest MacWarehouse catalog has the details: 30 fonts plus ATM,
all for $39. The fonts are AG Old Face Outline, Barmelo Extra Bold, Blackoak,
Bodoni Poster Condensed, Castellar, Colossalis Bold, Copperplate Gothic,
Gill Sans Ultra Bold, Gouty Text Lombardic Capitals, Berthold Imago Extra Bold,
Ironwood, Lithos Regular, Mesquite, Rockwell Extra Bold, Stencil, Runic
Condensed, Willow, Goll Gans Condensed, Joanna Regular, Joanna Italic, Letter
Gothic, Prestige Elite, Bellevue, Biffo, Dom Casual, Nuptial Script, Pepita,
Carta, Minion Ornament, Adobe Wood Types Ornaments 2.

All in all, it looks like an excellent bargain and a good countermove by
Adobe against TrueType.

There have been some recent messages asking about monospaced fonts. Two of
the fonts in this package (Letter Gothic and Prestige Elite) are monospaced;
one is sans-serif and one is serif.

Bruce Long
From: Monte Olsen <olsenm@ucs.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: ** WARNING ** AVOID TIGER SOFTWARE!!!!
Date: 30 Dec 1992 19:22:53 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rostb-mac.ads.orst.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
X-XXMessage-ID: <A76738012D01A710@rostb-mac.ads.orst.edu>
X-XXDate: Wed, 30 Dec 92 19:26:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.073923.15753@ncsu.edu> sdtrent.mte.ncsu.edu, 
writes:
>But then again it could be me! I think Tiger could be a great company if
they
>could only get a "Macintosh Way" sales/service rep!
>
>Just my two cents,
>-shane
Shane,
I know Tiger was having serious system problems after the hurricane,
which basically destroyed what they had. Their rebuilding efforts may
have been part of the problem.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: justin@hp750.ccs.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Sumex is in need of a restucturing
    <BRECHER.92Dec31192928@husc8.harvard.edu> 
    <1993Jan2.030645.17703@msc.cornell.edu>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 05:15:49 GMT

maynard@leah.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:

>If the archives ran on decent computers that could be configured to reflect
>changes in subdirectory contents in the date published by 'ls -ltr' I would
>be willing to live with a many-layer system, but given the way things now
>work, I avoid mac.archive if I possibly can do so.

>Just my opinion,
>Maynard Handley

Wel Mr. Handley.. You're opinion is greatly appreciated. The only beef I 
have is I wish you had told us in person sooner at
comments@mac.archive.umich.edu. 

The bit about running on a decent computer is a very legitimate complaint.
I agree, but there's nothing we can do. We're running off of some very
kind fellow's workstation as it is. Since that machine is located in a 
building with very poor networking, he had to impose drastic connection
restrictions because our archive traffic is flooding that subnet. 

Merit SUPPOSEDLY gave us official recognition and said they would support
us, etc. They haven't. We need more disk space. Can't get it. We need a REAL
machine to run on. Can't have one. We have a mail server, BART, that was
developed at U-M. I don't know why we use it.. I wanted to use the ftpmail
software. BART doesn't inform you of errors, doesn't let you tell it how
many lines per chunk you want mailed to you, etc. It works, but it takes
a lot of strained fingers to answer mail about people who send off requests
to BART and never hear from it again.

We never have had direct control over the way things are run. For instance,
when we started running WUFTPd, we didn't even have the authority to change
the messages. That was a problem.. We can't configure our host the way we
want it. That's a REALLY big problem. With all this, I consider us lucky
to be in 'business.' I really hope my colleagues don't lynch me for this.
I've made this all clear to them before.. It's not our fault, though.
I think we'll have to put the squeeze on someone at Merit if we want things
to improve. We're operating off the goodness of many U-M people right now..

Incidentally, all the newfiles have symbolic links to their various
resting places in 00newfiles. That way, you won't have to CD all over hell
to get what you want. I don't maintain these links myself.. Mike does (last
time I heard anything about them), or maybe a script does nowadays..
From: jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu (Joel Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Why doesn't someone write a ShutdownSound Extension?
Date: 24 Dec 1992 09:28:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

There is also SndControl, part of Ricardo Ettore's excellent Sound
Manager Package (shareware, includes Sound Mover and other
goodies).  It operates a little differently than SoundMaster,
traps some events that SoundMaster doesn't (and leaves out some
that SoundMaster has, tho I think overall there are more events
trapped in SndControl).  Both programs will allow you to use a
variety of sounds that you pick up from the net, user groups,
etc., though they each do this a little differently.

There is also the commercial "Kaboom!", based on SoundMaster.

-- 
Joel Siegel <jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu    jdsiegel@ocf.berkeley.edu>
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in
affairs which properly concern them."  - Paul Valery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jvp@vlsi2.ee.iastate.edu (Jim Van Peursem)
Subject: NEED: Calligrapy or Cursive TT font
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:18:00 GMT

Greetings,

  I need a public/shareware/freware True Type font that looks like
cursive writing or calligraphy.  Can anyone point me to an ftp site
and font name?

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Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:06:47 IST
From: Noam G. Nudelman <P88038@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: What application has a creator "dPro" ?


I think the subject line says it all !!

Thanks

                                     Noam

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: disabling extensions
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 05:26:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.141811.11598@tdb.uu.se> Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se writes:
>Noam G. Nudelman (P88038@BARILVM.BITNET) wrote:
>: 
>: Hi,
>: 
>:   I am interested in changing some system extensions so that
>: when I hold the Shift botton down while booting, they will NOT be
>: disabled.
>: 
>:   Any help will be appreciated.
>
>As far as I know, it's (almost) impossible. Apple has made it with the
>Tune-Up by adding a driver that loads the INIT somehow, but it's tricky.

Has anybody wondered WHY he wants to bypass the universal short-cut? If
all of a sudden people want to design INITs that can't be disabled, than
one level of protection for your computer (bypassing INITs that cause
problems, for example) is gone. Although I can see the use of INITs that
can't be bypassed (security programs, for example) I'd be wary of using an
extension that would, quite definitely, be breaking Apple's design guidlines.

Jay (=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: r.haines@unsw.edu.au (Ron Haines)
Subject: AppleShare 3.0.1 clients see server Trash?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Chemistry, UNSW
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:15:24 GMT

Having just upgraded our file server from system 6.0.5/AppleShare 2 to
System 7.0.1/AppleShare 3.0.1 I noticed that clients can see the Trash and
Desktop Folders on the server (but not the System Folder). This seems a bit
untidy. Is this a problem with our setup, or is it the way things are
supposed to be? Probably best to direct any comments to me via mail. 

Thanks,
Dr. Ron Haines
School of Chemistry, University of New South Wales
Kensington, 2033, Australia
Internet mail: R.Haines@unsw.edu.au