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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Subject: Re: New Lynx games before XMas...
Date: 24 Dec 1992 04:03:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, rjung@girtab.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) says:

>Well, whaddaya know? DIRTY LARRY: RENEGADE COP and DRACULA THE UNDEAD for the
>Atari Lynx have just arrived on store shelves today. If you want a last-minute
>new title to give to your favorite Lynxer (or yourself, even), bug your dealer
>for a copy or two...
>
>(Reviews in a day or two, naturally)
>
>                                                --R.J.
>                                                B-)
>
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Must be having fun... no review yet!


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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: erik@westworld.esd.sgi.com (Erik Fortune)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: I didn't predict the end of the Lynx!
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:31:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <28DEC199215543572@mary.fordham.edu>, areid@mary.fordham.edu writes:
> I love the Machine, I hate not being able to "play with a toy" I payed
> $130 for.

To buy games for the lynx:
  1) Buy, borrow or steal a copy of *any* video game magazine.
  2) Look for an ad for a mail-order dealer who sells lynx games;
     you'll find plenty.
  3) Order the game(s) you want.

Your gratification will be delayed by a week or so, but I'd rather wait
a week for a game I want than play a dull game because I can find it at
the mall.

BTW -- Toys 'R' Us out here carries Lynxen and Lynx accessories as do
EB and Software Etc and the Good Guys.    Their selection is moderately
good but they're often out of stock on things (I take that to be a good
sign).

-- Erik
From: lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:57:57 GMT

Several times while doing xmas shopping this season, I saw parents
buying a Gameboy for their kids.  I sometimes asked why and they said
very often `Oh, I don't know anything about these things, I just saw the
ad and they looked good;'  I had to stifle a scream ``HAVEN'T YOU HEARD
OF THE BETTER LARGER COLOR SYSTEMS!!!!!'' Unfortunately, in several of
the cases, the Lynx was not available at that store (e.g. Kmart)
Atari is not getting enough advertising out.  plain and simple.

--
John Patrick Lestrade        
cnesta::lestrade                       Let's try again in '96!
lestrade@ra.msstate.edu
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (!bonk!)
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:59:23 GMT

	No damn kidding to previously expressed sentiments about the
Grim Specter spreading over Lynx-land.

	I got rid of my computer for precisely the reason reading posts
about the "long term viability" of the Lynx makes my jaw tight.  With
all due respect to the fellow getting rid of his because of local market
shifts, I find the gloomy forecasts irritating and a little silly.  

	I got the Lynx because it's the best machine on the market, with
the best games.  If I ever own all of the 59 games available for it at
this point, I won't master 1/2 of them.  Good.  It's a damn toy.  I want
to _play_ with it.  The longer I have the same cartridge unmastered, the
better.  It means that I am getting my money's worth, which is a rare
thing in consumer electronics.

	In the meantime, I only have Roadblasters and Warbirds.  If I
manage to master either of these in the next day, I will still be two
years from mastering the entire existing library, which will grow by a
few titles before The End.  

	To the inevitable squawkers who hate to be disagreed with, yes,
I am killing this thread.  It's no fun to read it.

	Mike

p.s.  Thanks for good reviews, Robert.  I've consulted them via
Cleveland Freenet each time I've gone out to buy.  Better than the ones
I've read for Game Boy or Gamegear, both of which seem to have less
vocal and sometimes far less literate owners.
-- 
   
                            * B O N K *

                   mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: maddie@crash.cts.com (Tom Schenck)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Date: 31 Dec 92 01:42:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA


The Guardians started out as a good product, but over time the plot disappeared
along with most of the enthusiasim for the project, as piece after piece was
cut to fit the 256k cart. (Eye of the Beholder is supposedly a 512k cart).

I would like to see a product come out that is a multi-player Comlynx adventure
that is NOT Guardians. Or at least, that is Guardians as it was ORIGINALLY
designed.

I would also like to see companies actually give Atari a chance. All the San
Diego, CA based companies are ignoring the Lynx now (with the exception of the
remaining "Knight" products, of which there is only one now).

=============================================================================
Tom Schenck					| maddie@crash.cts.com
Formerly of Knight Technologies			| "I think, therefore, uh,
San Diego, CA					|  um..."
=============================================================================
:Now with BlueSky Software, for whom I do not speak
It's not their fault, don't blame it on them.(
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,misc.forsale,rec.games.video
From: positron@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Scott Haas)
Subject: FOR SALE: Full Lynx System
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 01:03:48 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

I am thinking of selling my complete Lynx system, which
includes:

1-month-old Lynx II (my old one broke so I replaced it)
Comlynx cable
Lynx Carrying Case
Radio Shack AC adapter
26 games:
  A.P.B
  Awesome Golf
  Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
  Blockout
  Blue Lightning
  California Games
  Checkered Flag
  Chip's Challenge
  Gates of Zendocon
  Hard Drivin'
  Klax
  Ms. Pac-Man
  Ninja Gaiden
  Rampart
  Rygar
  Shanghai
  Steel Talons
  S.T.U.N. Runner
  Super Skweek
  Todd's Adventures in Slime World
  Toki
  Viking Child
  Warbirds
  Xenophobe
  Xybots
  Zarlor Mercenary

NO boxes and very few manuals.

Best offer takes it, but no offer under $400 will be
considered. Also, I will not consider splitting up the
system.

-- 
__/\__  Jonathan S. Haas         | Jake liked his women the way he liked
\    /  University of Michigan   | his kiwi fruit: sweet yet tart, firm-
/_  _\  positron@engin.umich.edu | fleshed yet yielding to the touch, and
  \/                             | covered with short brown fuzzy hair.
From: tjerk@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Tjerk Heymens Visser)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Lynx - Bad Sign!
Keywords: Lynx, Atari
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:17:36 GMT
Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands).



I just noticed that Bart Smit was selling Lynx games for HLF 49,-.
Normally the games cost HLF 89,- at Bart Smit (The biggest Dutch toy-store).
The Atari 2600 was also selling for HLF 49,-, including a free game.......

I asked the manager if they were dropping the Lynx, but he said that they
were just getting rid of this stock for inventarisation. They will continue
selling the Lynx (Atari Benelux confirmed this). So maybe it's the same with
Toy's 'R Us. 
BTW T'RU has just opened a store in Holland I believe, but it is in the
eastern part of the country.....

I've heard rumours that Atari Benelux has fired most of its workforce....
Only six (!) people are working there now.  At the beginning of 1992 there
were 30 people working there..... 
This has not been confirmed, it is only a rumour. 
Now for some bad news that is certainly true: Atari Benelux is not shipping
new Lynx games for the comming month (Dracula and Dirty Larry are in the
warehouse), they are planning to put all effort in the Falcon.....
I can understand this, but it pisses me off as a Lynx user. If they keep
doing this they will be sorry.....The last new game was Switchblade II,
2 month old and a bad game. Hockey was the last good game for me, and I
already forgot when it came out.....

Tjerk Heijmens Visser
tjerk@nikhef.nl

Happy New Year!
---------------

Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Lynx - I got mine!!!!!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:46:04 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

>
>Brad--
>
>Couldn't reach you via email...  Do you have another address?
>
>John
>--

No, there is no easy way of reaching me... Seems as though if you are a 
contractor you have a hard time getting out of IBM and going out into the
real Internet world.

(and yes, I meant that my wife was playing it all the time... or at least
a good part of it...)  Anyway, I was thinking of grabbing another one
in a few months or so...  (have to wait until then to see)...
 
Brad


Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: medwards@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Matt Edwards)
Subject: Stun Runner?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:57:49 GMT


Is is just me, or is Stun Runner too easy??  I had no trouble at
all finishing the game once I figured out a somewhat major flaw
in the design of the game - 

When you'r going down the tube and hit a curve to the left or right, 
you're supposed to bank to the outside wall because it is 'faster
in turns'.  In the arcade game this is true - if you don't bank,
and stay down at the bottom, you lose a lot of speed.  On the
Lynx, you can stay in the middle all you want and not lose any
speed at all.  Since some of the enemy car things come out in 
pre-set places, sometimes as if they were waiting for you to be
on the bank, it makes it easy to complete all the levels.  

Also, is it my imagination or do you get slowed down if you 
fire more often?  I find I can complete levels faster if I 
don't fire as much.

Sorry if this has been discussed before.

Ribbit
From: cjfst4@cis.pitt.edu (Chad Freeman)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Date: 25 Dec 92 18:51:25 GMT
Reply-To: cjfst4+@pitt.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Milo D. Cooper (mdc@crash.cts.com) wrote:

: 	A significant number of the Telegames team, including the CEO, now
: work for us here at Park Place Productions.  _Guardians_, according to one
: of Telegames' artists (who currently works under myself), was cancelled
: when the team got a look at _Eye of the Beholder_.  So _Guardians_ won't
: be released, but _Eye of_ will.

	What does this mean, exactly...that Telegames was bought out?  If so,
will PPP be doing Lynx titles, or otherwise, what platforms are you working on?

--
Chad Freeman 					mail: cjfst4+@pitt.edu
			The end.
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Organization: Fordham University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:15:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Distribution: usa
X-Posted-From: mary.fordham.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


Not to be blunt myself, but...; how the hell do stores in other cities
and states apply to me?  I bought my Lynx in New York, after I did
every store that I saw it in dropped it (T"R"U, The Wiz, Software
etc.), and the line disappeared from the E. Boutique catalog sent to
my house.  You guys missed my point, I can find somewhere around 5
games total where I live.  Do you expect me to go running around the 
country to find games? Hell no!  I don't think NYC is the center of
the Universe, but it is a hell of a big market for the Lynx to
disappear from!  Like I said the TG-16 survives (at 69.95) and 
it's career has not been stellar.

My comment about the Game Gear was not a slight on the Lynx,  I'm just
saying that I wanted a (portable) affordable (no TurboExpress)
handheld color system.  I'm not rich, it took me some time to get the
money to buy the system I wanted.  Now that I did, the stores no
longer support it?  Say what you want, the Lynx may be the best damn
system ever invented, but I say that that sucks!  I'm not into specs,
just playing some good action/sports/puzzle games, If the Lynx can't
give me that then I'm not going to like it period.

I sincerly hope that Atari can get it together, but until then I've
got a system and no games, tell me should I be happy?

- Darin

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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com ()
Subject: Lynx Questions
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:25:23 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin


Ok, Like I said earlier, I just got a Lynx.  I have California games...
BMX on California Games is fun... Didnt take too much to get used to the
   controls...
SURFING on CA Games is fun... Easy controls as well...
 
even THE BAG (Hacky Sac) is ok as far as controls go...
 
How the hell do I use the controls to do anything useful on the HALFPIPE??!?!


On to other questions....
 
Is Ms Pac Man an OK game for the ole Lynx?
 
What about A.P.B.?
 
Any other games that you would recommend (I know, Warbirds... Plan to get it!)


????????
 
 
 
Just the typical new user questions.. (I want games that are FUN, the same
reason I wanted a Lynx)..
 
Brad

Thanks.
From: mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Keywords: guardians,doria
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:59:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In article <1992Dec30.170959.13159@netcom.com> ric@netcom.com (Richard A. Bretschneider) writes:
- mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper) writes:
- >	A significant number of the Telegames team, including the CEO, now
- >work for us here at Park Place Productions.  _Guardians_, according to one
- >of Telegames' artists (who currently works under myself), was cancelled
- >when the team got a look at _Eye of the Beholder_.  So _Guardians_ won't
- >be released, but _Eye of_ will.
- 
- Does this mean that when the "team" looked at "Eye" they decided it
- was too bad to be competitive/marketable/fixable, and thus cancled
- the follow-up project?

	If by "it" you mean _Guardians_, then yes, I am presuming that
that is the case.  I do not know for certain.  What is this "follow-up
project" to which you refer?

- What a lot of people in this news group will fail to understand is that
- 50 - 100 sales do not make a successful project.  It costs equally
- big bucks to launch a new project as to develop that project.  The company
- is often in the "halfway swimming across the ocean" situation when they
- have to decide on "go/nogo" with a project.  The project can itself be 
- "finished" but a sound, reasonable decision to halt the project prior
- to manufacturing/marketing/selling is made.
- 
- Do you feel this is the case here?  You seem to think that "Eye" will
- be released, but given that they didn't continue with a follow-up, which
- would be inherently easier to produce, makes that decision and the 
- judgement of quality of "Eye" a borderline decision of dubious future.
-
- ric@netcom.com | hope he likes enchiladas, because that's what he's getting.

	Who do you indicate with "they," Knight Technologies (who were
producing _Guardians_ for Telegames) or the folks making _Eye of_?  And
again, what is this "follow-up" to a game that was never completed to be-
gin with that should have emerged?

						 _m d c_
			  Milo D. Cooper  '92   | 1992  |  mdc@crash.cts.com
						`-------'
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From: an913@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tom P. Jarvela)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx Questions
Date: 31 Dec 1992 23:59:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


 Want a fun driving game? Get Checkered Flag. It's the most fun I've had 
playing a driving game since Test Drive II on my Amiga... it's by far the
best racing type game I've ever played.

 Greg
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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Toys'R'Us and Lynx letter writing...
Date: 30 Dec 1992 01:32:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



I think it is about time that we started a letter campaign to
the executives at Toys'R'Us and tell them that there is a demand for
the Lynx and game cards at their stores.

This is a silly GAME that Atari and Toys'R'Us is playing.

I heard Toys'R'Us DROPPED the Lynx and does not plan to continue
carrying it because of Atari's sales people messing things up.

If anyone is interested in sending a letter to Toys'R'Us, please
reply to this message in some way.

If there is enough interest, I'll write up some form letters and
find out who to send the letters to.


Oh, before anyone starts saying, "Toys'R'Us may not have dropped it!",
this letter writing will not mention it either way.  I just want some
Lynx stock in the stores.

I've been to Toys'R'Us FIVE times and each time half the cards were out
and there were no systems to purchase.

THANKS.



aa399@cleveland.freenet.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: ric@netcom.com (Richard A. Bretschneider)
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:09:59 GMT

mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper) writes:
>	A significant number of the Telegames team, including the CEO, now
>work for us here at Park Place Productions.  _Guardians_, according to one
>of Telegames' artists (who currently works under myself), was cancelled
>when the team got a look at _Eye of the Beholder_.  So _Guardians_ won't
>be released, but _Eye of_ will.

Does this mean that when the "team" looked at "Eye" they decided it
was too bad to be competitive/marketable/fixable, and thus cancled
the follow-up project?

What a lot of people in this news group will fail to understand is that
50 - 100 sales do not make a successful project.  It costs equally
big bucks to launch a new project as to develop that project.  The company
is often in the "halfway swimming across the ocean" situation when they
have to decide on "go/nogo" with a project.  The project can itself be 
"finished" but a sound, reasonable decision to halt the project prior
to manufacturing/marketing/selling is made.

Do you feel this is the case here?  You seem to think that "Eye" will
be released, but given that they didn't continue with a follow-up, which
would be inherently easier to produce, makes that decision and the 
judgement of quality of "Eye" a borderline decision of dubious future.


-- 
                 
               | The face of a child can say it all, 
Ric            | especially the mouth part of the face.
Bretschneider  |
AKA            | If God dwells inside us, like some people say, I sure
ric@netcom.com | hope he likes enchiladas, because that's what he's getting.
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Peterson)
Subject: Shadow of the Beast: Awesome Game!
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 05:46:19 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu



  I just got this game, and all I can say is WOW. Great graphics, great 
game play, and awesome music.  I see that it's made by Psygnosis, anyone
know if they are coming out with any other games for the lynx?  They did
a tremendous job on this one. If anyone is looking for a MUST game to buy
this is it. IMHO, of course.  Now, I need a tip for the game.  I keep
getting stuck at the point where I have to battle the big green monster.
This is the monster you get to after getting the key and after getting 
the crystal ball weapon.  I keep firing this weapon at the green monster's
head, but I just can't seem to kill it.  Anyone have any advice?


Thanks,
 Chris



Xref: sparky alt.games.lynx:1361 rec.games.video:25814
From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Dirty Larry Is Out
Date: 23 Dec 1992 19:04:50 -0800
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1hb4acINN3d@phakt.usc.edu> shihtape@phakt.usc.edu (Shih-ta Peng) writes:
>Went to Babbages today and saw Dirty Larry: Renegade Cop for the Lynx.
>Whew! Atari sure knows how to cut it close. I didn't see Dracula or
>any other new game reported here in this group. OK Robert, go to work!

  Already did (jerks thumb to the post before yours, at least at his site
anyway). Check 'em out, THREE reviews to play with (DIRTY LARRY, DRACULA, and
JOUST). If you want the capsule summary, JOUST by Shadowsoft is even hotter
than ROBOTRON: 2084 by Shadowsoft. These guys do magic with Lynxes...

                                                --R.J.
                                                B-)

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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: I didn't predict the end of the Lynx!
Date: 29 Dec 1992 04:49:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) says:

>
>I did want to point out that I have a machine that I have no games to
>play on it. That is all.

Well, I looked in a recent issue of ST Informer and I've found an
advertisement from San Jose Computer.

I have never done business with this company, but they do have Lynx
titles and their prices listed.

Klax is only $19.95  in this ad.  The number is 408-995-5083.

I believe BRE Software also sells Lynx titles at 1-800-347-6760.

Toad Computers is a highly-respected dealership according to many
people that I've talked with.  They may sell Lynx titles and they send
all products out within 24-hours.  The number is 1-800-448-8623.

What you may want to do is log onto the Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG's
Lynx Support area (go lynx) and read all of the reviews.  There are
even some games rated by users.

After you find some that are interesting, call these places up and
order it through mail-order.

Anyone else can help him find Lynx games?

>
>
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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: meyer@dbsun.uucp (Don Meyer)
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:39:47 GMT

No local Lynx support?  Then go mail order.  If there are local stores
than supporting them is a fine idea.  But retail outlets aren't the only
sources for games...

Don
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