From: mba2@Jane.UH.EDU (Puneet_S)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: The problem with India (Mosque incident)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 04:31:16 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: mba2@Jane.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu

>
> Well, first off, one should learn something extraordinary from the history of
> US. We do not see brewing of religious fervor in US because of constitutional
> separation of the state and the religion - thanks to the founding fathers. 

Yes let's do look at history.....Hmmmm......Massachusetts and the founding
colonies....ah yes, i remember.....Witches....
American Indians.....can't convert 'em, let's kill 'em....
Orientals....Let's use for building railroads....
Blacks.....Let's enslave 'em and sqaush their culture....
KKK....Boy, I think we have a failure to communicate....Yu' ain't from
	around here are 'ya.  I think you, me and god have some things
	to talk about.....
Southern Baptists saying that Creationism needs to be taught in school...
Southern Baptists saying that the rest of us (christians, methodists,
	hindus, muslims are all going to hell anyways) so why don't
	we just help them along..
Hebrews saying that we need to go help out Israel kill some Muslims in
	the mid-east.....
Wasn't someone talking about putting prayers back in school....Hmmm.
	I remember hearing something about that.

Should I go on....
This country has seen a lot of religous intolerance maked over by what
we think of as prejudicism because of race....Don't be mistaken, Just
cause you live here in this beautiful country (no sarcasm, i'm actually
proud to be an american) you may not have seen what I have....I've gone
to a catholic church and acutally heard the preacher condem methodists.

It's there.. Deal with it.  (not meant to you specifically, just a 
general comment)

Solutions

	1.	Don't like 'em, shoot em dead (not always a good option,
		but still an option, only reason it's not good is cause
		they may have a bigger gun or lots of friends who have
		big guns)
	2.	Don't like 'em, shoot em all dead  (Viable option, problem
		need a real big gun or a physicist to build you a small
		thermonuclear device...problem background radiation)
	3.	Convert 'em  (too time consuming and generally not worth	
		the time)
	4.	Live harmoniously with mankind (BS, people can't live 
		together...People by nature need someone else to hate...
		someone to blame for their misfortunes)
	5.	Let's all become atheists (Not!  Problem can't control
		the masses that way short of mind control...religon is
		a great tool to get a lot people to do something)  

Please take the above with some light.....My true beliefs....Don't mess
with them and they won't mess with you....I don't care where my "god"
was born...He wasn't ever born...He's in me....and I don't need a temple
to go pay homage to him....If they do mess with you and then you should
be allowed to go mess with them (not the whole damn culture...only the
idiots that burned down the place).....I'm not against violence...I 
acutally think it has it's place...Real useful for getting rid of a lot
of stupid people (unfortunately a lot of people are ordered to kill, when
they have no emotions on the matter and also innocent people die).  But,
hey if i could get all the leftists all together from all the "religons"
i'd take them all down to this deer lease i know about and hand them all
a sub-machine gun with laser scopes...I got no problem with killing or
letting stupid people kill each other....
>
> Extending that, 
> -Everywhere on this planet the state should be 
>  separated from religion, economics....
> -Every individual should have a constitutionally protected RIGHT TO 
>  PURSUE/ENJOY his/her happiness in everything - religious beliefs, 
>  business (economics), education, sex, literature, what have you...........
>   (This implicitly implies that none shall have the right to impose 
>    hisself/herself onto anyone else....)
>
> The solution is Free Markets, Free Individuals, Free Speech, Free Thought,
> Free Mind, Free Soul......Freedom.
>
> Begin with the individual as an absolute, as another law of this nature - 
> best left to evolve by itself. 

>T.Y.
>----
>tyadav@athena.mit.edu
>ps: For more along these lines, read/brood with Aristotle's "Politics."

Read Omahe....Sounds just like this...Sorry I don't buy all that....
You can't seperate church and state or the state from economics...
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It's not my goddamn planet, monkey boy
Puneet

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