HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: And the dead shall drive the earth!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:43:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.005411.23428@netcom.com> dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.164313.1499@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>> [some stuff]
>> This guy jerks his wheel and shoots right at me. I hit the hooks.
>>He is now where I was a split second ago. I quickly accelerate around him
>>to his left and am now in the left lane with another car in the right
>>lane. Spoogeboy is behind me once again. Mr. spooge now goes into oncoming    
>>traffic, pulls even and now proceeds to try to squash me into the car on
>>my right.
>>  [some more stuff]
>
>  If it's any consolation, consider this a nomination for the "yes
>indeed, they _are_ trying to kill you" hall of fame.
>  And, this is easy for me to say, not having been there, but for
>future reference, I've always thought (well, _nearly_ always)
>that a head butt from a guy wearing a helmet must smart.
 
 Perhaps using the helmet as a club, eh?
 No I'm 6' 175 lbs. This guy had me by 5'' and a hundred pounds.
 Trying to head butt this guy would have resulted in my broken neck.
 Sad that I had to result to name calling. Consolation - I was probably the
first person in his life to express my disgust with him. I feel sorry
for his dog when he got home.

 
================================================================================
 Ipisissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes - IIOSF XOX Dawn
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
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From: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: To: J. Levine - bounced mail
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:39:48 GMT
Reply-To: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Organization: QPSX Communications
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi Jody,  I tried to respond by mail, but the reply-to address in your
message caused a loop between "rex" and "ohrd" (both at rd.hydro.on.ca).
 I've got the original failure message if you want it to debug the path.

Oh, yes.  I was serious about "leaning the bike with your knees".  If I
can sort out this editor I'll attach some of my reply to the end of this
message.

Conrad


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[ To: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
[ Subject: Re: Leaning into it
[
[ In article <1992Sep25.133642.3209@ohrd.uucp> you write:
[ : In article <1023@pico.OZ> conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au writes:
[ : >
[ : >To over simplify, lean the bike - not yourself.  And use your
[ : >knees/thighs to do it.  (This all applies to slow (<25mph) stuff).
[ : 
[ : This is a joke, right?
[ : 
[ Jody,
[     No. (maybe the .sig is/was inappropriate) It seems that the dreaded
[ icecream cone theorists are correct at low speed at least.  I have to
[ admit that all the bikes that I have been playing with of late are
[ mid-weight 500s (cb/4, sr) but they've both responded well to "steer
[ with your knees" at low speeds.
[      The instructor I had made me slalom up & down a car park steering
[ this way, (in & out of alternate parking bays), and the top part of my
[ body wasn't moving (much) at all - just the hips down.
[    Watching the local plod pilot their Harleys t'other day I saw a
[ graphic example of this - upright, (upstanding) officers, & HOGs
[ grinding their foot pegs.
[ 
<deleted 5 lines>
[ 
[ Yours,
[  Conrad Drake
[ --
[ "There's something stirring in my loins and it isn't the spirit of Jesus"
[                 - Helen Razor, JJJ announcer, 1992.
[ Email: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
[ Snail: QPSX Communications, Private Bag 24, West Perth 6005, Australia. 
[ Numbers:(ph) +61 9 324 1641, (fx) +61 9 321 2984 (dod) 0604
--
"A carnival of misery so tragically our own,
 Where gathered 'round the ballot box we reap what we have sown"
               "These Festivals" Leunig, 1992

Email: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Snail: QPSX Communications, Private Bag 24, West Perth 6005, Australia. 
Numbers:(ph) +61 9 324 1641, (fx) +61 9 321 2984 (dod) 0604
From: v058l789@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (I AM the Nighthawk)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:33:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep27.220135.1301@msus1.msus.edu>, stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes...
> 
>	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
>	All the ones I've seen do.

	Affirmative from me.... DoD #682  Ethan Bowerman
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Post-tipover tips?
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:44:04 GMT
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu

In article <1992Oct5.142048.19008@socrates.umd.edu>, rowell@socrates.umd.edu (William Rowell) writes:
> What kind of hidden dangers can lurk in a bike after it is tipped over on its
> side? Last night I had arrived home after a very pleasant ride and I was 

	Shouldn't be very much.  I forget what side you said you tipped it
on, but if it was the left side, watch that your shifting isn't different
from before the incident.  The shifting forks can get damaged in such an
incident, although I doubt that Goof2's are heavy enough to really screw
that up in a tip-over.

	Check your shift linkage and rear brake linkage (again, I forget
which side).  Check your control levers for play and clearance.  Remove the
plastic/rubber mirror covers and check/tighten/replace mirror parts, as
necessary.  Check the rear turn signals, passenger pegs, and exhaust canister
to see that they aren't bent too much.  Not a huge concern, but if it looks
wrong, then...

	Also, resist the temptation to touch up the scuff marks in the plastic.
It's kind of difficult, as the color scheme is a layer of stickers over the
ABS.  Unless you want to shell out major $$$ for new panels, or get a new
paint job, the stock scheme is virtually unrepairable.  I've had one tipover
incident per side on my Goof2 and the scratches are practically invisible.

	I hope you took lots of pictures of it when it was shiny, new, and
clean ... :-)
--
Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon) "It hisses on snakes."   AMA 642916   DoD 0593
'79 XT500 (The Bitch)        '90 Plymouth Laser RS (Sweetie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: loki@nazgul.physics.mcgill.ca (Loki Jorgenson)
Subject: Tamiya model review
Summary: 1/6 scale Yamaha SRX-600
Organization: Centre for the Physics of Materials
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:44:30 GMT

	Keep in mind that I haven't built a plastic model for about 10 years.

	Being as my fall riding was seriously abbreviated by my thesis,
I was pleasantly suprised to find a 1/6 scale plastic model of a bike that
I have always wanted and am currently looking for: the 1986 Yamaha SRX-600.
For distraction and relaxation, I have been slowly building it in 5 to 10
minutes spurts on the desk beside my terminal.  Having never been particularly
fastidiousness in building models as a kid, I figured I would stretch this
out by being super-attentive to the details.

	What fun!  And it's a really excellent model.  This kit
has alot of details.  It seems much better than anything that I ever had as
a kid.  It is really well designed, seems to have everything that the
original does and actual works where feasible.  Rubber tires, all cables
and hoses, chrome, moving joints.....  The only thing missing
is working suspension; I'm actually thinking of working on the rear
shocks to make them functional (they already have real springs).

	Best of all, I know the SRX inside and out now, since almost all the
bits are at least represented if not actually a separate piece,  I can
paint and re-paint it to decide on the best color (once I have one for real)
and, if I can find a 1/6 scale model of an FZ600, I will rebuild the front
end for better handling .....oooops... getting out of control here.

	Anyway, for those who are interested, the make is Tamiya and they
have about 50 or 60 bikes from the mid-80's.  They include most makes
in existence although you won't recognize all the models.  I guess they're
mostly European.  This means you won't find a Goof2 or an FJ.
On the other hand, they do make 1/3 scale big models of some (like the
CX500 Turbo and Goldwing) and I'm told that Tamiya is renewing their
catalogue with a whole new line this fall.  Who knows what it might
contain?  The RADD, the Morpho, the Duc 900SS, the Fat Boy?

	Ok... so this wasn't the most exciting review you ever read.
But for those of us who can't ride all year, it provides a distraction
to keep us from going crazy.  Naturally, I'd prefer to store my bike
in the living room and work on it.

	Leather up, rubber down and rubber cement on everything...

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Bzzzzt!  Was: How to break-in new rings?
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Keywords: ohmygod dweeb
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:19:43 GMT

root@elektro (Charlie Smith) writes:
> dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:
>>If you want to seal the rings quickly, here's the scoop...
>You notice he carefully doesn't say a scoop of what!

>>Wash the cylinders and pistons with detergent and water.  Dry thoroughly.
>>Leave them sit out overnight. Reassemble with just a thumbprint of motor 
>>oil on the piston skirts.  
>Why not just spit on them?  That might lubricate a little better!

>>Put oil in the engine as you normally would.  
>>After all the pre-startup checks, start the motor and run it up to about 
>>3000-4000 rpm and hold it there for about one minute.  
>Or until it seizes up, whichever comes first.

This is how I assemble two strokes.  I've assembled top ends on three
RD400s this way with perfect results.  This approach is actually quite
common, esecially with 2 strokes and was recommended to me by several
experienced sources.

>>Last ditch method... If you've built (or had someone else build) a motor
>>and it uses a lot of oil with no signs of seating the rings, try this...
>>
>>With the motor running at about 3000-4000 rpm, feed a couple of tablespoons
>>of Bon Ami(tm) into the carb.  

What exactly is Bon Ami?  I thought it was some kind of soap or something.

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mgsmith@hpl.hp.com (Michael Smith)
Subject: Why Aerostitch instead of leather?
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:50:09 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, CA

I am interested in Aerostitch riding suits but was curious.  Why have
some of you selected Aerostitch over leather?  It certainly isn't price.
I can mail order a Heinz Gericke suit for less than an Aerostitch one
so what is the appeal?  One note, I rarely ride in the rain so that is
not much of a factor.

Mike Smith
HP Labs
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Faulty chain adjustment
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:54:57 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <ssuhouns.718033028@reading> ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Paul Marshall Hounslow) writes:
>Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>
>>In article <29SEP92105121@fnalo.fnal.gov>, krafft@fnalo.fnal.gov
>>(N07732_KRAFFT, KEITH G.) wrote:
>>> What I'm asking is, has anyone's chain busted or fallen off at
>>> highway speeds?
>Yes!  While countersteering my BMW!
>
>Apart from that, I know of it, I was not on duty at the time (ex Fire & Rescue).
>This squid was riding fast with a knackered chain.  It broke, took his leg off
>halway up his thigh.  Didn't matter too much, cos he and the bike
>went straight into the front of a lorry (trans, truck) coming the other way.
>
>I ride a shaft drive bike now ;-)

Uhuh. So some squid maintains his bike badly, therefore chain
drive sucks? Look pal, if you want to eat power, bounce up and
down in time to your throttle hand, and drive an overloaded
pig, that's your privilege.

The only shaftie I ever rode that was worth the gasoline to torch
it was the BMW Gs with paralever. *All* of the rest of them
handled like a winnebago in a 60mph crosswind. The BMWs without
paralever suspension all handled like a winnebago in a 60mph
crosswind with all the tires flat.

So all you 8/10 poseurs out there who'd like to believe you
own a sportbike, get thee to a dealer and buy a Yamaha RZ500
two stroke four cylinder BikeFromHell today. I promise, after
the first couple of weeks you'll hardly be spooging your 
fruit of the looms at all.

Regards, Charles
DoD 0.001
RZ350(onlayaway, beautiful)
GS400ED(nonstock, forsale, needswork)
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: question #6 answered (was Re: Stupid Questions)
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:25:56 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1afidjINN35f@cs.utexas.edu>, osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
> 6.  What was the ugliest motorcycle ever produced?  (New, not ratted out.)

has to be the FJ. that's why they cover it up with all that plastic.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:31:47 GMT
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1aj2q3INNj2f@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:
[in response to my post]
|	this from a person who isnt even on internet!!! ;)

  Really??  That's strange...  I spend some amount of time each week managing
out Internet connection...  Some of my rn and mail software is still using
uucp addresses, but that just proves that YOU sir, aren't paying attention.
Tell you what - (THIS IS A HINT) - take a look at the first email address in
my signature...  (What a NEWBIE FRESHMAN SCUM!!) :-)

|	you actually save news postings by me??? ...

  No, I save postings that *I* make, which, by chance, was in response to
yours and contained a good amount of your original whining...  Yours aren't
worth saving (neither are mine, either, but they provide good ammo when
someone misquotes me).

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: n8643084@henson.cc.wwu.edu (owings matthew)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:49:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Oct3.044913.24278
Organization: Western Washington University


	How about an EX500, '83 550 vision or a 250 Ninja (or eliminator)?
From: ant@palm21.cray.com (Tony Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Electric Vests
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:47:03 GMT
Organization: Cray Research Inc, Eagan, MN
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Does anyone on the net have any good/bad info about particular makes of 
electric vests - Widder, Eclipse, BMW (or others) ?

None of the dealers around here stock more than one type and thats almost
universally Eclipse (maybe this is relevant in itself).

I'd appreciate any tips - by EMAIL please. I'll post a summary if I get 
anything interesting.

thanks

tony

--
Tony Jones (ant@cray.com, ..!uunet!cray!ant)
ComMon Compiler System
Cray Research Inc, 655F Lone Oak Road, Eagan, MN 55121
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drinking & Helmets
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:44:17 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Dean Cookson (dbc@po.cwru.edu) wrote:
: In article <973@amtfocus.amt.gss.mot.com>, jimwy@amtfocus.amt.gss.mot.com
: (Jim Wygralak) wrote:
: > Has anyone come up with any clever solutions to enable them to
: > consume liquid refreshments while suited up?
:
: Yeah, it's called a Camel Back.  It's basically a bladder that you
: wear like a back-pack.  With a straw that comes over your shoulder

No, no, no.  To really uphold DoD standards for aesthetics and eye-catching
good looks you need to get one of those caps with a can holder on each side
and tubing.  You know the ones you see idiots^H^H^H^H^H^H suave guys at
ball games wearing.  Rig up one of these to your helmet and make the daemon
proud.
--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: car-to-bike jump start
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:22:39 GMT

In <7509@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:

>Dan Sorenson (viking@iastate.edu) wrote:
>: 	As much as I hate to agree with Pooder (general principles, ya
>: know), he's right.  I've jumped the CB750K4 from cars, riding lawnmowers,
>: huge John Deere diesels, Ford trucks, Chevy trucks, cars, and all sorts
>: of other equipment.
> 
>Geez, Dan, maybe you ought to consider a new battery.

	Ever try to start an inline four with 13:1 compression when it's
only ten degrees out?  One battery just won't do it.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>
From: jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:24:03 GMT
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC
In-reply-to: egreen@east.sun.com's message of 24 Sep 92 17:00:40 GMT


This weekend I talked to my BMW mechanic about gasohol since the BMW
manual that I have specifically says don't use gasohol. He said that
is right and I shouldn't use it in my 85 k100 but I can use MTBE (I
think up to 10%) fuel which typical large company gasoline already
contains anyway (though <5% I think). So it looks like I'll have to
search for those MTBE pumps!

More hearsay is that guy at the Shell station that I go to  said he is
not using gasohol and will drive to another county if he has to. He
thought that they won't be able to make the large companies only carry
gasohol and may just have a separate pump with it.

--
Jonathan Polito                                      DoD #x (K 100)
jep@cs.duke.edu                                  jpolito@encore.com 
              "You Don't Say...." --- Sylvia Plath
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: old Kawasaki ads
Keywords: complete list
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:23:36 GMT
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom; Marietta, Georgia

Has anyone assembled a list of all the events that were listed in the old
"Let the Good Times Role" Kawasaki ads?   I've been digging through all my 
stacks of magazines photocopying worthy article (How to drill out broken
bolts, how to counter steer shafties, how to tighten the chain on your BMW)
and thought it would be nice to have a list of places, times and events from
these ads.  I remember Steamboat, TWO here in Georgia, Top Dog Cafe, and
Alice's Restaurant.  My rusty memory seems to remember the ads running from 
'90 till '92.

ObMoto:  I'll be taking the MSF:ERC this weekend.  Looks like it will be taken
on the '88 geezer just I bought.  Unfortunately, it will also be my first time
riding the new bike since I pick it up tomorrow.  :-(  (I'd ride my old beater
Honda, but as listed in a previous posting, it's out with bad rings.)  I'll be
real ****ed if I drop it and damage the brand new paint I had put on it.

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Date: 05 Oct 92 09:35:39 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>
>What can you get for a BMW that you can't get for my FJ?

Half what you paid for it (new) in ten years.

---
chris
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: artc@bacchus.epps.kodak.com (Art Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: A different BMW question - tires
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:41:58 GMT
Reply-To: artc@bacchus.atex.kodak.com
Organization: Atex Publishing Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct01.135609.26167@bnr.uk>, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
|> Paul Marshall Hounslow (ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk) wrote:
|> : In article 28627@awdprime.austin.ibm.com, bade@athena2.Berkeley.EDU () writes:
|> : >
|> I had Dunlop Radials on for about 10-12k miles.  They lasted a long time but
|> the handling was a bit shitty.  I am now using an ME33/55 pair which give great
|> handling but I don't expect any sort of longevity.  I will probably post when
|> the ME55 wears out as I will be asking for ideas for others or just bitching
|> about their lack of life.
|> 
I'm running Michelin radials right now and particularly like the way they handle wierd
surfaces -- steel bridge decking, shaved and textured road-under-repair surfaces, and so
on that the Metzlers really got bothered about.

Still the Metzlers I had on other bikes were great all around tires. I found that the
MBS tires gave me about twice the mileage of the non-MBS Metzlers (about 8K).

Art
-- 
Art Campbell          artc@atex.kodak.com            72227.1375@compuserve.com
   DoD 358                                  _Real_ BMWs have just two wheels.
    "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent 
     and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
                      All the usual disclaimers apply.
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:44:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Paying for Damages on Borrowed Ride (was something else)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA