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From: ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBs in England
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:55:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.172107.11476@news.iastate.edu>, trump@iastate.edu (Jennifer M Trumpy) writes:
> In article <1992Jul22.195037.7582@wam.umd.edu> mrmuon@next08pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.152014.7872@news.iastate.edu> trump@iastate.edu  
>>(Jennifer M Trumpy) writes:
>>> Look, you completely dense people...You cannot compare time travel
>>> to the production of a television show. Face it. Nor can you compare
>>> it to bumblebees. If you want me to have some Quantum Physicists 
>>> send you crap loads upon crap loads of info on why going back in time
>>> is impossible, I will have it for you. Just tell me your post address.
>>
>>  I am a quantum physicist. I do not rule out the possibility of time  
>>travel.
> 
> Big deal. Do you INVESTIGATE it? Not all fo quantum physics deals with time,
> and many areas hardly even brush it. Look, chaps, if you want the opinions of
> hundreds upon hundreds of scientiscs, I'll get 'em for you. And 99% of them
> say Time Travel is NOT possible. I would like to ask you all a question...

BIG DEAL! I'm sure hundreds upon hundreds of scientists back in 1890 or so
would've dismissed Einstein's work. Since you're so quick to dismiss opinions
you don't agree with you shouldn't be surprised when others dismiss yours.

> 
> In 1900, I am 20. A build a Time Machine and travel back in time to 1881. I
> kille me as an infant. Now, where the hell did the 1900 me come from? Huh?
> 

Hey that one's easy , Frank! You didn't, so you won't!

PHIL
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBs in England
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:42:26 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Jul24.033620.8347@news.iastate.edu> trump@iastate.edu (Jennifer M Trumpy) writes:
>
>Parallel time-line? I didn't think it was possible, but you've been watching
>too MUCH Dr. Who. I am hearby reading these last few and putting this thread
>AND the Christainity thread in my kill file. I don't have time to respond to
>everything, and I want reading news to be enjoyable, not a drudgeary. I am NOT
>giving up. I still hold firm to my beliefs, but I'm tired of these threads.
>
>Frank Trumpy
>trump@iastate.edu

Good deal, Frank.  We're all tired of your thread-bare brain.
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Net is Burning
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:50:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul26.185054.29312
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) wrote:
>wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
>>Dave says it's
>>ok to restart old threads, so look for new (=old) dw discussions soon.
>  You could always the BBC for lack of new stuff for netters to post, and the
>fact that there are people being introduced to the net, makes it more likely
>than there will be more old threads returning.

I don't know how to "always the BBC", but I'm not talking about new readers or
new fans. You specificially started an old thread and you've been around a
long time to know that. BUT you said it's ok, so it's ok.

Just a note to some other "new" readers: it's preferred not to check your posts
for errors and DO NOT edit out any quoted text so that we can read original
posts over and over and over...

There is plenty of new stuff to talk about without having to wait for a new
fan to start an old thread: new video releases, the audio tapes, a recent
photonovel release that no one has mentioned, new novels, etc.

Tom

Tune in next week to see the Doctor visit a zany place with people like
Mr. Douglas, Mr. Kimball, and Mr. Hainey in "The Ebb Planet."
From: norbeck@mira.bucknell.edu (nancy norbeck `93)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: References of Christianity
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:44:33 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.



Does this thread have even the *slightest* bit to do with Doctor Who 
anymore?  


If I wanted theological debate, I'd read talk.religion.misc.


--
|Nancy Norbeck       | "I know that look."  "What look?"  "The look that says |
|....................|  you're going to be impetuous, vengeful, irresponsible,|
|norbeck@bucknell.edu|  and *stupid*!" --Lady Jane and Lovejoy, "Death and    |
|....................|     Venice"                                            |
From: myst@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Lionheart & renewing Dr. Who
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:18:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club


> 
> So this means that Hartnell and Troughten can only be shown in episode format
> on the Scifi Channel, right?  
> 
> Ellen - the Cat Who Walks Alone
> ISTN100@indyvax.iupui.edu
> 
> 
	Showing episode format on the SF channel sounds like a poor idea to me.
They're now going to have to EDIT the episodes to fit in their 7 minute
allotment of commericals. Ugh. (We'll be debating for hours here what was cut
and why. The McCoy episodes, if they ever buy them, will be even more
incomprehensible!) I was hoping they would show them in movie format, running
as a two hour movie, at least for the 4 parters, because the station then has 30
extra minutes for ads.
	I also like the episode format. A lot of the episodes have their own
themes and sub-plots running through them which are lost in the movie format.
Also, in the movies, every twenty-five minutes, you get a climax which is
usually meaningless and completely side-stepped afterwards. But, I
don't want to start the debate again on the format, so just ignore this
paragraph.

					Myst@Drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
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From: mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN)
Subject: Re: Novel Nostalgia
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 20:14:29 GMT

In article <sywRoB2w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>The new book covers for old novels - not a good idea, IMHO.  It loses the
>nostalgia of the WHOmobila.  I believe once they have an original cover, stick
>to it and do NOT replace it.
>
>Comments? Opinions? nukes?
>
I don't agree.  Look at current book reprints; often
they get new covers to keep up with the times (such
as the new cover of "Patriot Games" with Harrison
Ford on the cover).  I realize it can go to far,but
if you look at old books chances are first thing
you'll laugh at is the cover.
I like the new Doctor Who book covers.  I think that
they express the books much better than the old
covers.  I don't see why one should always stick
with the old.

Marc Wasserman
mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu
 

-- 
"So you're choosing to run from your own people in a rackety old TARDIS?"
		     D  O  C  T  O  R     W  H  O
				30 Years
"Why not?  After all, that's how it all started!"
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From: mrmuon@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: time travel ?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:38:00 GMT

In article <BrJn2K.5oz@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>  
pealbers@lambert.waterloo.edu (Paul E. Albers) writes:
> 
> In thinking about time travel (actually FTL travel) I came up with this
> idea that I don't have the background to shoot down so I thought I would
> give someone else chance to.
> 
> Assumptions.
> 
> Both time and space are quantized so there is a basic unit of time that
> can't be divided and also a basic, indivisible unit for space.
> 
> This being the case, then every possible velocity, when expressed in  
these
> units would be a rational number.  Now if the speed of light was
> a irrational number, then as we sped up, we would go from being just  
below
> the speed of light to just over it avoiding that nasty (1-v/c)^(-1/2).
> 
> So who can shoot this down first?  (no flames please, I'm a mathie, not
> a physicist).
> 
> Paul
   Quantization of space-time does not mean something so simple as being  
made up of discrete units (nobody does know what it means but it's clearly  
something real wierd). There are natural units based on universal  
constants. The natural unit of velocity is definitely the speed of light,  
so c=1 which is clearly not an irrational number.
   Going faster than light wouldn't be made any easier by skipping the  
velocity of light. Note that for v>c, (1-(v/c)^2)^(-1/2) is really nasty;  
it's imaginary. In order to go faster than light you need to make your  
mass imaginary.
From: cshuy@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christina Cheng Ann Shuy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: request: The Companions Holiday
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:25:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Does anyone in North America have a copy of the poem
	The Companions Holiday
	that they could send me or post?  It would be much 
appreciated!  I seem to have lost my copy of it, and I was about to
download it for my own copy.

	Thanks in Advance!

Christina

-- 
"Five to one against and falling...four to one against and falling...three to
one...two..one...probability factor of one to one...we have normality, I repeat
we have normality.  Anything you still can't deal with is therefore your own
problem."		-from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
From: wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Lioheart and the episode/movie thing
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:02:57 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Well, if the Sci-fi Channel is able to show the episode format, does that 
mean that PBS stations will still show the movie format? (Just to add my 
two cents, I like the movie format). I live in Canada, where the sci-fi 
channel is unavailible. We have YTV, but they cut, have commercials 
during the show and show Dr. Who at the ungodly hour of 2:30 AM! Needless 
to say, I'm hoping that the two PBS stations availible to me (WTVS 
Detroit and KSPS Spokane) continue to show the good Doctor.

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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Quiz, Episode 4
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 06:03:00 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada


we have the results from the first 3 trivia quizzes:

   Frank Durda IV (uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org)  24/30
   James William Bennetts (james@mundil.cs.mu.ozau) 18/30
   Ron O'Dell (keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us) 15.5/30
   Jonathan Drukman (jondr@sco.com) 15.5/20
   Ariane (Ablanch@physics.su.oz.au) 8/30
   Kevin Blayton (kgb8752@ultb.isc.rit.edu) 7/30
   Richard K. Fox (fox-r@cis.ohio-state.edu) 5/30
   Franklin Trumphy (swan@iastate.edu)  3.5/30


And now Part 4, which is purely based on DR mk 1:

 1)  which story did "Edge of Destruction" replace ?

 *2)  who was the enemy in "Marco Polo" ?

 *3) Who was Joanna to marry in "The Crusades"?

 4) Who was Koquilion in reality?

 5) On which Planet was Stephen picked up ?

 6) According to the Doctor, how many years did the TARDIS travel in "The
    Ark"?

7) Who was the Doctor's double in "The Romans"?

8) Name Johnny Ringo's ex-girlfriend in "The Gunfighters"?

9) What does WOTAN stand for?

*10) Name the surviving astronauts for the incident with " The 10th Planet" ?


    Rules:
   1)  No posting of answers.  That is up to me.
   2)  Enter as many times as you like, until you get 10/10.
   3)  Deadline is extended to Wednesday, 29 July 1992 11:59 MDT.





Dave Shariff Yadallee
yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All!
yankee: (n) a person with long, yankable hair
From: michaelm@cse.fau.edu (Michael Marcus)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Tomb of the Cybermen in MD
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:27:10 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

Maryland Public Television has secured the rights to show the recently-
discovered Patrick Troughton story "Tomb of the Cybermen."  This four-part
serial will be shown in episode format sometime in August.  Is there anybody
in the First State that can possibly arrange to make a copy of this before
it reaches video store shelves in October?  Please reply via e-mail to 
discuss particulars.

Mike Marcus
Secretary/Treasurer
Florida Atlantic University Science-fiction Troupe
(FAUST)
From: patrick.mackin@matrix.sbs.com (Patrick Mackin) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Doctor Who Appreciation Society & Dr. Who Fan Club of America
Date: 20 Jul 92 23:08:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: patrick.mackin@matrix.sbs.com (Patrick Mackin) 

To: IAIN ODLIN
If you don't have the addresses to either of these places yet, I can
provide them. I recently got a postcard from the DWFCA so they are still
in business, barely. They WERE 50,000 members strong until management
problems forced them into near-bankruptcy.
                                           
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From: ak515@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Polak)
Subject: DW in Orlando
Reply-To: ak515@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Polak)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 15:56:53 GMT


I will be in Orlando in 2 weeks and want to know if Doctor Who is
being shown their. If yes, what time and channel. I don't think I
can survive a week without the Doctor.

-- 
---------------------------------------------------:-David J. Polak-:
'You kill ten guys one of them is bound to come    ----------------  
 back. He doesn't know how dead he is. He runs     ak515@cleveland. 
 after you and grabs your gun. You better wake up.'   freenet.edu  
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From: trump@iastate.edu (Jennifer M Trumpy)
Subject: Re: Franks Brain?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:48:25 GMT

You know...I told someone I was putting this in my kill file, and they said:
"The fools will just start posting it under a new name."

I rest me case.

trump@iastate.edu

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From: doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey)
Subject: Re: Lionheart & renewing Dr. Who
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:41:02 GMT
Keywords: Dr. WHO WILL BE UNCUT

In article <1992Jul28.194901.27387@afterlife.ncsc.mil> glreno@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Gerald Reno) writes:
>>The Sci-Fi Channel's newsletter has stated that Dr. Who WILL BE UNCUT.  They
>>are fitting in a one hour slot, with interviews and behind the scenes pieces
>
>Here begins the massive letter writing campain to put Doctor Who in
>a time slot that people who have to go to work can actually watch!

I also think EVERYONE should thank them for promising to run it UNCUT. 
Perhaps they'll realize how important it is and keep their promise.  Thank
them, while also telling them nicely but firmly that you WILL notice cuts
and WILL switch off for good if they start doing it.  A quick postcard will
do the trick, and will only cost you $.19.

I plan to write and thank them, despite the fac that there are no plans to
get the sci-fi channel in my area. 

God this is good news.

  Thanks awfully,
            Patrick

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From: esum@sol.UVic.CA (Edmund Sum)
Subject: Re: TIME LORD Game
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Distribution: world 
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 08:17:51 GMT

In article <92207.06075034ZBTXQ@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> <34ZBTXQ@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
> I'd be interested in knowing what some of you Whovians who are also gamers
>think of the NEW Doctor Who RPG, TIME LORD. It's put out by the same folks
>who do the Who paperbacks. Aside from the lack of a character creation system,
>and no experience point system, it seems like a fun game! I'd especially be
>interested in your opinion of it's accuracy to the series as compared to the
>FASA game, and it's suitability as a vehicle for creating adventures in the
>style of the series.

I'm trying to find a copy of this game.  I have the FASA version and its
game mechanics sucks.  There is a Games Workshop game with the same name
(or is it the same game?)...  Anyways, Doctor Who Magazine reviewed this
and is was favorable.  If anyone knows where I can mail order this, please
email me.  I don't read this newsgroup often anymore.

Ed Sum
esum@sol.uvic.ca

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From: mrmuon@next04pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Photonovels, 1993 Videos etc.
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:18:23 GMT

In article <420.9207281450@subnode.susssys1.rdg.ac.uk>  
ssushipn@SUSSSYS1.RDG.AC.UK (The Doctor) writes:
> 
> The photonovels I am aware of are:
>   Power Of The Daleks
>   The Macra Terror
>   The Savages
   Interesting!
   Who publishes these? How long have they been out? ISBNs ?
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From: trump@iastate.edu (Jennifer M Trumpy)
Subject: Re: The Simultaneous Flamewars: ObDrWho
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 04:24:30 GMT

In article <14658@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>The Christianity / time-travel battles which have recently taken over this
>newsgroup bring to mind a quote from the Doctor, which Jennifer/Frank
>Trumpy, PHIL!, and all the others involved might want to consider.  It's
>Tom Baker from "The Face of Evil", where he's commenting on the mad
>computer Xoanon.  "People like that don't alter their views to fit the
>facts, they alter the facts to fit their views.  Which can be particularly
>nasty if you're one of the facts that need altering."
>
>Now, considering the sh*t-storm that the last Who-quote on these subjects
>dragged up ("Bumblebees!"), God knows how Frank will respond to this one.
>:-) :-)


Not going to. I'm dumping for all I'm worth into my kill file. Sick and tired
of hearing about this, and I don't have the time.

Frank




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From: mrmuon@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Episodes, Plots, holes, etc.
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:10:37 GMT

In article <76116@ut-emx.uucp> davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Buddy Brannan)  
writes:
> I dunno ... personally, I've always taken Doctor Who at face value. That  
is,
> for me, each episode more or less stood (or fell on its face as the case  
may
> be) on its own merits or not. Continuity errors, or holes in the plot,  
or 
> whatever, didn't really ever bother me, nor did "bad" special effects.  
It's
> good clean fun stuff to watch. I think it works better if you watch  
stuff like
> that this way, rather than picking it apart and seeing why this or the  
other
> thing happened, or more, why it couldn't happen, in relation to this  
other 
> event, or how ridiculous that event is, considering this other precedent  
..
> It can get all very confusing. 

    The "Whoniverse" is an intricate, fascinating, and largely self  
consistent fictional universe. In fact it is probably the most detailed  
fictional universe in all of SciFi. I find speculating about it rather  
fun. I think that's basically the whole point of this newsgroup.
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From: bv925@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert J. Corrigan)
Subject: TVO Doctor Who?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 02:54:57 GMT


Just a brief question for our Ontario friends...

What episode of Doctor Who was showing on TVO on July 9? I was in
Brampton but had to leave at 10:25, just before it started. :(
What'd I miss?
-- 
Ace Quote O' The Week:
	"You're just an aging hippie, Professor."
(Sylvester McCoy was a hippie in the sixties)
	From Doctor Who, "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy."
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From: dcpiii@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (pawlak dan)
Subject: Re: References of Christianity
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:10:42 GMT

ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:

>Oi!  People!  Let's either start reconnecting this topic to Doctor Who
>or let's stop talking about it here!  I've seen at least five,
>maybe ten posts under this subject with no relation to Doctor Who 
>whatsoever.


...once again I agree. repeat after me "If I am not talking about Doctor Who,
I should not leave notices here...If I am, It's just a show, I should really
just relax..."
again thank you
praying for your souls.
Dan Pawlak send hate mail to dcpiii@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBs in England
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:12:02 GMT
 <54694@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1992Jul22.152014.7872@news.iastate.edu>

In article <1992Jul22.152014.7872@news.iastate.edu>, trump@iastate.edu (Jennifer M Trumpy) writes:
> Once again, I'm doing tthis by hand...
> 
> A Previous poster writes:
> 
>> All right, if you don't like that metaphor, Time travel is
>> as impossible as a science-fiction show about a weird guy
>> who lives in a police box actually remaining on the air
>> for twenty-six years and garnering fans from around the
>> world. It'll never happen. --any BBC executive circa  1962.
>> 
> 
> Look, you completely dense people...You cannot compare time travel
> to the production of a television show. Face it. Nor can you compare
> it to bumblebees. If you want me to have some Quantum Physicists 
> send you crap loads upon crap loads of info on why going back in time
> is impossible, I will have it for you. Just tell me your post address.
> 
> Frank Trumpy
> trump@iastate.edu

Look folks , this guy already knows it all & not only all for now for
all that will ever be known! Apparently he can't distinguish between
*current* scientific knowledge & speculating about *future* scientific 
knowledge. Talk about DENSE!

PHIL
From: TheMadDoctor@cup.portal.com (Shane Derek Killian)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: ToaTL disclaimer, "Read the Novel" McCoy stories, Who is Va
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 13:22:19 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Curse of Fenric was remarkably clear I thought, 

I was a bit confused when I saw it on TV, but I saw the video, which has
some restored scenes, and all the pieces came together. As it was
syndicated, however, I think it left much room for confusion.


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From: nickles@sage.cc.purdue.edu (john a nickles)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBs in England
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:01:51 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Jul20.152153.13957@news.iastate.edu> trump@iastate.edu (Jennifer M Trumpy) writes:
>In article <12314@ecs.soton.ac.uk> lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L) writes:
>>Time travel?  Impossible?
>>I have just this to say:  Bumblebees!
>>Terran insects, scientifically proven to be incapable of flight.
>>They manage it though - I've always been rather fond of bumblebees.
>
>Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
(Zooilogical facts deleted)
>did not flutter, they couldn't fly. Once again, a paradox is slaughtered by
>a solid fact.


All right, if you don't like that metaphor, Time travel is as impossible
as a science-fiction show about a weird guy who lives in a police box
actually remaining on the air for twenty-six years and garnering fans
from around the world. It'll never happen. --any BBC executive circa 
1962.

John A. Nickles (author of CROSSOVER)
Standard Disclaimer: Steve Beering (our Prez)has never even SEEN Dr. Who
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