HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: charles@phx.mcd.mot.com (Charles Wolff)
Subject: Re: Dead & The Dark Side
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:55:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.231453.8347@pellns.alleg.edu> dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn) writes:
}In article <hanke.7@insane.sanders.lockheed.com>  
}hanke@insane.sanders.lockheed.com (Richard Hanke) writes:
}|Then I tell her about
}|songs like "Bid you Goodnight"...(I love you brother but Jesus
}|loves you best)
}|
}I wondered about this song too for a while, but since it seems to fit in  
}thematically (if not musically) with Bob's cowboy tunes, I figure it's just  
}another song about a loser, a guy who's in such trouble that any other  
}villain/victim (or the crime?...) is a friend of his.

	WBYGN seems to be an adaptation of an old hymn, "The Christians'
	'Good Night'".  I forget who wrote the words, but the music is
	by Ira D. Sankey, who was a fairly prolific hymn writer.  The
	part the Dead sing is basically the first verse of the hymn,
	and the original hymn does not include the "sing A for the ark,
	that wonderful boat..." lines.  I suspect the Dead learned the
	song through one or two generations of folk singers, not from
	the original hymnal...

	Anybody who'd like a copy of the original song (the music from
	the hymnal, not a tape) can send me an SASE - Charles Wolff,
	3453 E. Rockledge Rd., Phoenix AZ 85044 - and I'll send you a
	copy.

	My opinion is that the Dead do songs with "religious" themes
	such as this ("Samson", "Death Don't Have No Mercy") simply
	because of their "folk music" status.  I don't know if it's still
	done, but it used to be a tradition for country music stars to do
	a hymn or an old gospel song as one of the last numbers of each
	of their shows, regardless of the personal beliefs of the singer...

	The topic of Christians listening to the Dead recently went
	around and around in rec.music.christian.  Once we established
	that "Hell in a Bucket" and "Friend of the Devil" weren't
	"satanic" songs, the conversation seemed to die out pretty
	quickly.  Listening to the Dead is probably no worse for you
	than listening to... oh, somebody like Neil Diamond...

Charles
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: cjs39035@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Christian Shay )
Subject: GD Hour Grovel
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:17:44 GMT

Could somebody help me find a copy of the following dead hour?

Grateful Dead Hour no. 208
Week of September 14, 1992

I'm particularly interested in the recording of "Mystery Train" on that one...

Thanks,

Christian
cjs39035@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Ken Kaufman <kaufman@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
Subject: 1968 tape tree
Reply-To: kaufman@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:17:25 GMT

That 8/21/68 tape sure is interesting.  Has anyone figured out those different
lyrics in the bridge between St. Stephen and The Eleven?  It seems that before
evolving to its later form it went like:

   William Tell has stretched his bow till it won't stretch no
   furthermore <something something something> apple core.

And the Midnight Hour has a serious garage band sound to it.  Very cool.

Given all this, I am surprised that my children on this tree have not been
biting.  I've only heard from one of them, but not seen the blanks he was
to send.  I sent out another barrage of mail to all of them - please respond!

Actually, a quick survey with the finger program indicates that one of them
has not been logged on since May (student account?)  If you are/were/know
Mark from Stanford, please get in touch with me.

==Ken
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
Subject: Re: 10/74 Winterland showz
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:28:33 GMT

<MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:

>In article <83090@ut-emx.uucp>, misi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (michael singley) says:
>>
>>How do people rank these shows?  I have none, so I wonder which I ought to
>>acquire.  Heard a piece of 10/19/74 on the gdhr last year, though, and
>>liked it very much.

I think the first night (10-16) was the best.

--Mark
From: djw@hodgkin.mc.duke.edu (David Wendt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Bound to cover just a little more ground
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:50:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <MAX.92Nov12125440@frabjous.u.washington.edu> max@hitl.washington.edu (Max Minkoff) writes:
>
>Let's talk about it!  I'm dying for an open discussion before this just
>turns into another hate-fest (which I won't join, btw).
>
>Where are you, wheelies?
>

well put, bring on the issues, lets open em up right here!

					David
From: gt0021c@prism.gatech.EDU (Chris Edward Perkins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Merl Saunders Question
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:15:01 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Merl and his band are coming to Atlanta in a few weeks, and I was hoping
someone out there might have some info on this tour.  Oh, you know, the usual
stuff like who's playing with him, what kind of sets he's doing, is he
burning up the stage with some serious rock and roll or zoning out on wyndham
hill new age music for 90 minutes, etc etc.

Don't get me wrong.  I like Blues From The Rainforest.  It's just not something
I'd want to go and see performed live, that's all.


-- 
Chris Perkins, Georgia Institute of Technology, MSM 1993 (?)
uucp: who cares?         Internet: gt0021c@prism.gatech.edu
'I was blind all the time I was learning to see'
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dead Sighting
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:05:25 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hi all...
  I was watching GoodDay NY and they ran a piece about how the infidelity/pot
  smoking/draft dodging issue didn't stand in Clinton's way...during the part
  about pot smoking, they showed some old clips of "flower people" and then
  for a brief moment there was PHIL circa 69ish, i'd say...
  i had to laugh, knowing that only deadheads would've even noticed!
  have a great day
  ignore those who ignore karma! & the wheel is turnin'...
  peace,
  laura
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: gw214790@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts)
Subject: Re: Better DEAD than a DEADHEAD!
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 15:07:55 GMT
Organization: Environmental Science and Technology Center

	If thinking like this ?human? is commonplace, maybe death for all
	of us would be better.  I thought that such ignorance and 
	intolerance was left behind in England back in circa 1776.

	Obviously, the rest of the planet does not agree with this "Archie
	Bunkeroid" and we must try to understand his frustration with our
	freedom of thought, as he may be chained (financially) to a desk in
	a room with no windows.
From: ANDREW.PETRUNCIO@sprintintl.sprint.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Wheelie Position Wanted
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:01:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov13.170158.6174
Reply-To: ANDREW.PETRUNCIO@sprintintl.sprint.com
Organization: The Internet


 
 
Dear Wheelies,
 
Since I wasn't selected as a candidate to be a full fledged Wheelie, I would 
like to apply for the position of Wheelie Lurker. I promise never to to say 
nothing. I'll just plain old lurk. You'll never know I'm even there.It would 
mean so much to me to simply mention to my pals that I am a member of the 
Prestigious Select Wheelie organization. Then, I just know they'd have to 
start inviting me to their parties and I might even get a date once in a 
while. The last time I was out with a girl was when my mother arranged for me 
to meet her best friends daughter. That was three years ago and she hasn't 
called me back yet. I think I'm just the kind of guy for your group. My pals 
won't have to know that I'm meerly a Lurker. So what do you say? Can I, Can I? 
Huh, Huh? Can I, Please? Whadaya say guys? Hows about it? Huh? Huh?

Sincerely,

Andy P
From: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Joe Hack is Back
Date: 6 Nov 1992 17:45:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright) says:

>Net cop hat on:

Yeah, we noticed.  Rich, do you know how popular cops are on the gdead
net?  I didn't think so.

>Lil' Joe Hack has decided to fan some flames with another of the infamous
>Dale "The Porshe Guy" posts (for those whom already noticed this, sorry for
>the re-repeat).
 
He he.  Your stupidity is really shining through now.  I love watching
net newbies do dumb things.

>Joe Hack is the chairman of the "Porshe Guy" Fan Club.  Show your
>appreciation for his reposts by flooding his mail box with applications 
>to the club.
 
OK, I'll tell you.  Dale did not write the article I posted.  It may have
been a close friend, but not Dale.  Sorry to ruin your whole day.

>His address is:
> 
>bz206@cleveland.freenet.edu

Thanks for sharing that.  I'm sure nobody could have ever figured that
out without your help.

>Netcop hat off.

It ain't that easy Mr. Whineright.  Once a net-cop, always a net-cop.
You are labelled for life.

>Have fun,
>
>Rich
>-- 
>**************************************************************************
>*   Rich Whineright               All I want to do is whine all day long *
>*   BG377@cleveland.freenet.edu   whine, whine, whimper, whine, sniffle  *
>************************************************************************** 

I think we may have another net-censor wannabe here too.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: dudasj@rpi.edu
Subject: Re: Playin and Playin
Reply-To: dudasj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:36:32 GMT

In article <74227@hydra.gatech.EDU> you write:
|Was listening to a tape today and got to thinking about what I would
|consider to be my ideal second set.  I came up with the following:
|
|Playin -> Drumz -> Playin
|encore: Shakedown Street
|
|total time: 97 minutes
|
|Then I thought about it a little more and realized that some might say we
|need a Jerry tune during the second set.  But I did not want to upset the
|general idea that this set should be focused on jamming and not songs per
|se.
|Playin->Dark Star->Drumz->Dark Star->Playin
Why is it that we should even dream of such things in
these songs alone.  Why don't the boys try doing long
exploration of other tunes from which we wouldn't
expect it, instead of it always being Star or Playin or whatever.
I think your frustration with Playin's not
being long enough is because they've played a few hundred
of them...they should try something they would be fresh on.
Imagine really long, extended jams on tunes such as
Stagger Lee, Box of Rain, Me & My Uncle, Brwon-Eyed Women,
or whatever.  Unlikely to happen, but it would be great to
see them try something new and different in these respects.

|Would an audience stand for it?  Would 19000 people be able to deal with
|hearing a one (or two) song set?  Would they grow impatient and restless,
|demanding the endless jamming materialize into a familiar and different
|song?  Or would they be able to kick back and explore the zillions of themes
|possible with such an open and free-flowing tune such as Playin, and revel
|in the ways the boys could find to hold our interest and really take us "out
|there." 

I don't really think that all of today's 1992 audience would
enjoy it....obviously, the more die-hard folx,
and people with open minds about music would enjoy and love it,
but I think that this is a chunk of the audience that with
time seems to get smaller and smaller.

|Chris (who is starting to actually like Victim, too)
I was at first ashamed of myself when I realized I 
was beginning to like Victim (like the Frosted Flakes 
commercial with the darkened-faced adults), but I 
have heard some really nice ones...
hi-qual board grovel for 6-19-91 (the Victim that converted me)!

Later
Joe D.
dudasj@rpi.edu
From: cary@altair.csustan.edu (Cary Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Cancel Denver shows?
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:56:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: koko.1992Nov12.205621.1142
Organization: CSU Stanislaus


Hey Now!
     I just ran smack into the suggestion that the boys should cancel the 
Denver shows to show solidarity with the Gay community. I for one, as a 
Faerie and a Freak, would be devastated to have just lost my rights and now 
loose my spiritual release mechanism.  It would be great for the boys to
do something to acknowledge the victim and the crime, but ceasing to 
spread the joy in the process doesn't seem to be the answer.
     Move west young men, we need more in Turlock.
Cary the Faerie.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Paul Tumolo <ptumolo@seq.csuhayward.edu>
Subject: a dead show without the dead?
Reply-To: ptumolo@seq.csuhayward.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:30:44 GMT

i'm not sure what constitues a dead show, but there were a few shows
back in '66, '67 or'68 (you know, a long time ago) where neither
bob or pig played. this is the period that bob refers to when he syas
he and pig were kicked out of the band for not being good enough
players.
-paul
From: blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis)
Subject: Re: bela fleck show
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:46:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.145856.16953@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dab@donner.uucp (25853-ballard) writes:
>Hey now-  Bela Fleck and the Flecktones will be at Club Bene in 
>Sayrville, NJ this Sunday (11/08) at 8PM.  Call 908-727-3000 for 
>details/reservations.
>
>So now you know... ;-)
>
>dab
>
yeah, they'll be at The Birchmere in late December here in Alexandria
Virginia for anyone that's interested.  Sorry I don't have the number handy
for TicketMaster, but Hechts has tix for this venue as well.

Barb


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: ec5w@Virginia.EDU (Eric  Crawford)
Subject: Dead siting
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:33:06 GMT

from Eric Crawford--ec5w@uva.Virginia.EDU

Last night at U.Va., the school tipped off the basketball
season with an intrasquad scrimmmage.  Bruce Hornsby coached
the Blue team and Woody Harrelson coached the Orange team.

Anyway, at halftime, two students were picked to play 2-on-2
against Bruce and Woody.  I suspected Bruce to perhaps come
out in one of those Lithuania Olympic basketball tie-dyes.
Nevertheless, Bruce and Woody come out in some gaudy GD
tie-dyes but I'm not really sure what was inside the skull of
the steal your face drawing but it looked like a sailboat? or
something.

After he finished the game, I asked him if he would graciously donate the
shirt to an avid fan, but he said it was a specially made shirt
and he wasn't going to give it up.

I couldn't help but try.

				Peace,
					Eric
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Joe Hack is Back
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 17:53:44 GMT

In article <1deav3INNf6v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:
>
>In a previous article, bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright) says:
>
>>Net cop hat on:
>
>Yeah, we noticed.  Rich, do you know how popular cops are on the gdead
>net?  I didn't think so.
>
>>Lil' Joe Hack has decided to fan some flames with another of the infamous
>>Dale "The Porshe Guy" posts (for those whom already noticed this, sorry for
>>the re-repeat).
> 
>He he.  Your stupidity is really shining through now.  I love watching
>net newbies do dumb things.
>
>>Joe Hack is the chairman of the "Porshe Guy" Fan Club.  Show your
>>appreciation for his reposts by flooding his mail box with applications 
>>to the club.
> 
>OK, I'll tell you.  Dale did not write the article I posted.  It may have
>been a close friend, but not Dale.  Sorry to ruin your whole day.
>
>>His address is:
>> 
>>bz206@cleveland.freenet.edu
>
>Thanks for sharing that.  I'm sure nobody could have ever figured that
>out without your help.
>
>>Netcop hat off.
>
>It ain't that easy Mr. Whineright.  Once a net-cop, always a net-cop.
>You are labelled for life.
>
>>Have fun,
>>
>>Rich
>>-- 
>


HEY NOW! You guys goin' 'round and 'round, AGAIN??? :-) :-) :-)



*There Is More To Life Than Being, DEAD!* Meditate on it:-) :-0 
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Sheila Momaney <sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.edu>
Subject: I'm back
Reply-To: sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:04:06 GMT

GatorMail-Q                   I'm back
Hey everybody,
I'm so happy to be back on the net after my
sudden absence!  I've spent the last two months
recuperating amidst the foliage of Vermont.
As some of you know, I had a miserable bus-bike
accident in Berkeley on Labor Day weekend (sadness).
Now I'm a walking hardware store of steel plates and pins 
but at least I'm a *walking* hardware store,
so I know that I can dance...
I want to thank all of you who sent messages;
even though I've never met most of you in real life
it was good to know that you were out there sending
good vibes my way.  
I guess I'll be begging for Oakland tickets soon
since I wasn't able to get out of the Vermont hills
to mail order.  I hope you'll all be kind then, too!!
(now that was a little pre-begging buttering!)
Cheers and thanks!
sheila


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis)
Subject: GD hour in D.C.
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:19:02 GMT

Does anyone know what happened to the Greatful Dead hour in Washington, D.C.
It used to be on DC 101 at 10:30 pm on sundays, but it wasn't there yesterday.

If anyone has any info please mail me at louray@seas.gwu.edu
From: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Are you bummed that there is no NYE show?
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:01:39 GMT
Reply-To: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Organization: m4


I'm curious how most r.m.gdead readers feel about ringing in 1993
without the familiar backdrop of a Dead show.  This would have been
my 16th consectutive New Years Eve with the Dead and it will 
definitely be different to be somewhere else.  I'm not that upset,
though, since it's a chance to party in a more comfortable 
environment without the hassles associated with getting tickets
and seats to see the Dead.

How about the rest of you?

+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

   Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
   Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
   Mountain View, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jkragh@Data-IO.COM (Jim Kragh)
Subject: Alaska Tape Grovel
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:46:00 GMT


 How do you do?

 Please pardon the grovelin'. I have most of the sets from these shows but 
am missing the first set from the 6-19-80 show. 

 (missing)
 6/19/80 West High Auditorium, Anchorage, AK 
 Set I

 Alabama Getaway
 Promised Land
 They Loved Each Other
 El Paso
 Tennessee Jed
 Cassidy
 Althea
 Looks Like Rain
 Far From Me
 The Music Never Stopped

 I would be very happy to complete the set. More than happy, grateful! 

 My Story:> The Alaska tapes I have are the spark that put me on the bus. See
 I bought a box of used Maxells from a friend that needed the bucks bad. The 
 idea was to record over them (gasp!). Now I'd always liked the dead, but I 
 didn't what was about to happen. Through sheer luck or divine guidance :)
 I put on the first tape and what rolls out but Lazy Lightning/Supplication
 My jaw hit the floor and stayed there! Now mind you these tapes were only
 marked with dates, it took me a minute to realize who I was listening to.
 This was the real Grateful Dead! A far cry from the 8-track of "Skeletons"
 that rolled endlessly in my car (8-track, am I dating myself?). Needless to 
 say, the box of tapes DIDN'T get recorded over :).

  Were the Alaska shows truly hot, with the boyz in perfect form, or is this 
 just the fond memories of first love? You decide. 

  I would be only too glad to trade or send blanks to some kind soul with the 
 "missing set". 

  If anyone wants copies of what I do have of these shows, send email.

  My copies are quite clean by the way, does anyone know the source?
  board or mike?    

  Hey, while I've got your attention, I'm also looking for some unique
 Dead tie-dies or Dead stickers. If you make these yourself, or know someone 
 who does and wants to move some. Send email. I'll buy 'em. 
  
  Peas and Lite,
  James
From: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Ken Nordine at Bimbos (San Francisco)
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:21:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.SOWA.92Nov9112131
	<1992Nov5.193022.5368@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> <BxDKos.6Jy@well.sf.ca.us>
Organization: Wahoo 5

>>>>> "tnf" == David Gans <tnf@well.sf.ca.us> writes:

tnf> Howard Levy is a great addition to the Grisman band!

Howard Levy, the man who can get more sound out of a harmonica than is
physically possible. I sure like how he sounds with the Flecktones.
-- 
Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com)
From: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: One more Net-Survey
Date: 11 Nov 1992 05:52:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I'm still conducting an experiment on you guys...

Do you want me to....

[ ] Go away for good, never to return.

[ ] Stay here and shut up.

[ ] Stay here and continue to entertain you with my amazing wit.

[ ] Fuck myself.

Feel free to email or post your replies.
From: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Joe Hack is Back
Date: 6 Nov 1992 14:31:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu

Net cop hat on:
---- 
Lil' Joe Hack has decided to fan some flames with another of the infamous
Dale "The Porshe Guy" posts (for those whom already noticed this, sorry for
the re-repeat).
 
Joe Hack is the chairman of the "Porshe Guy" Fan Club.  Show your
appreciation for his reposts by flooding his mail box with applications 
to the club.
 
His address is:
 
bz206@cleveland.freenet.edu

---- 
Netcop hat off.

Have fun,

Rich
-- 
*************************************************************************
*   Rich Wainwright               All my politically incorrect posts    *
*   BG377@cleveland.freenet.edu   are forgeries written by someone else * 
*************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Paul Kantner & Wooden Ships In the Philly Area tonight!!
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:54:05 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

Yes, Paul is playing the 23 East Cabaret tonight.  I'll probably be there
tonight.  Anybody planning on being there?  If so, drop me a line!!!

Joe Doheny