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From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Subject: Re: Bigod 20
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:06:22 GMT

In article <57194@cup.portal.com> Trevor_I_George@cup.portal.com writes:
>	I don't think a Bigod20 album ever came out even though Carpe
>Diem exists on one of Sire's compilation disks. My favorite song by them,
>and the only other one I know of is The Bog.
>						T. Industruct

  According to the liner notes on 'Acid to Body' there was an album called 
'Steelworks' in the planning stages. Nobody I've ever talked to has ever seen
or heard about this album ever actually being released. Since that time BiGod
20 has come out with 3 more singles, with Carpe Diem being the most recent.
Unless I'm mistaken these are the songs released by 20 or BiGod 20.
	Acid to Body / Energize
	America / Photographic  (a DM cover)
	the Bog / IQ
	Carpe Diem
-Daniel

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From: casteley@phil.ruu.nl (Eric Casteleyn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rap
Subject: Re: A Fix: (was Re: Beastie Boys Discography (somewhat))
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:17:59 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands

demsey@neural.tucson.az.us (herr loki) writes:

>In article <1992Apr10.000859.18555@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>  writes:
>>      "She's On It"  Unknown to me when released, have never seen it.  Some
>> sources say it was THIS which caught fire in the Black clubs.
>> 

>  Release in 1985; the Bside is "Slow and Low". Rick Rubin produced this
>one along with "Licensed to Ill"


 Correct me if I'm wrong, but i thought the single She's on it/Slow and low
was a re-release. Slow and low came off the album, but she's on it was from
before license to ill... 


            EJC (DWEEB)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: Brian <bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: CD's for sale.
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: rec.music.industrial
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:22:26 -0500

Shipping included:

KMFDM -Vogue cd5.  Has Vogue, Sex on the Flag and 2 Split mixes  -$5
KMFDM -Naive cd -$10
Overlords -Organic cd -$10


-- 
-brian

*bhostetl@ucs.indiana.edu | Ahhh, this is the good life...I'll just sit back,
 @iubacs.bitnet           | and think...pleasant thoughts...cheecken pot pie...
 @silver.ucs.indiana.edu  | choc-o-late covered raisins...GlAzEd ham...OhhHhHh!
From: dippybir@tz.wimsey.bc.ca (Jeremy Tolsma)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: DEPECHE MODE MURDERS ROUTE 66
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 13:24:39 PDT
Organization: Somewhere in The Twilight Zone, Vancouver, B.C

djs6015@cs.rit.edu (Donald J Smith) writes:

> In article <m30XiB1w164w@tz.wimsey.bc.ca> dippybir@tz.wimsey.bc.ca (Jeremy To
> >driven, NOT keeping RMI free all the terrible things in the world.  If they 
> < lots of lame dm sympathy erased>
> >actually sat down & thought about Depeche Mode, they probably would come 2 
> >the conclusion that it is a good band, which makes some great songs, and 
> >that if people want 2 discuss it on RMI, its perfectly A-OKAY, because they 
> >would realize that it is GOOD when people get 2 talk about what they WANT 2 
> >talk about rather than being told NOT 2 talk about something.
> > 
> 
> depeche mode not being industrial debatable? theres no question... even if i
> 
> 
> 
> were a dm fan (which i'm not) its obvious they are not industrial, and it can
> be left it that. just because you believe a band is good doesn't mean it can 
> be compared with the bands that do belong here. i happen to a huge fan of 
> slayer, but i don't bring it up here. anyone with any backround in industrial
> music can tell the difference between techno and industrial. and wanting dm
> out of here because of jealousy or hate.... no they just don't belong.
> 
 
Well I just dont bring them up here becuz I have no interest in them.  We 
have already determined on RMI that there is no telling what BELONGS, so I 
personally wouldnt suggest some1 shut the fuck up about something, well 
unless it was completely unrelated 2 music in the 1st place, and even then I 
would prefer 2 laff at some1 else flaming than waste my time posting my own. 
I know that a lot of the people posting to this thread about NOT posting 
about Depeche Mode ARE only trying 2 keep the noise down on the feed, but I 
still contend that those who r getting SOOO worked up about it, r suffering 
from a jealousy induced psychosis.  In fact there seems to be two distinct 
groups of pathetic babies on RMI: 1) Those that worship/love a band, & post 
passionate defenses when the band is flamed. & 2) Those that are 
jealous/hate a band, and post huge flames that really hit home, usually in a 
hillarious manner.
 
I think these people only post these sorts of posts because they have no 
NEWS to offer, and want to be heard anyways.  Thats why I do it anyways..
From: ugrimly@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (GrImlY FiENDisH)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Throbbing Gristle (was Re: Psychic TV "The Orchids")
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:09:10 GMT

Am I the only one around here who likes not only old but new PTV? _DLS_ has
some really great stuff on it (and also a lot of filler...), they did a lot of
other interesting stuff, a lot of DULL stuff (live albums I've heard... although
I am open for suggestions to these). Doesn't anyone else enjoy the atmosphere
of _Towards thee INfinite Beat_? I mean, a discoish song with lyrics from the
Process church? No one else finds this amusing at all? Or the jajouka musicians
on "Bliss"? Personally, I find it a vast improvement over the cheesy _Allegory
and Self_. Too bad that so much of their stuff is either impossible to find or
to afford. If anyone can direct me to a reasonably priced copy of _Force the
Hand on Chance_ (or would be willing to tape it for me in exchange for 
compensation) I'd appreciate it.

_Infinite Beat_ is housey, and that genre is admittedly obnoxious, yet at least
it sounds like there is someone behind the technology with it. It sounds like
campy dance music with the guitar wash noises from _Descending_ in it.
Or maybe it is not intentionally campy and I am laughing at them rather than
with them? But enjoyable nonetheless. Someone please give me some feedback
here.

-------------------------------GRiMLy
				       FiEndiSH

				       ugrimly@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU (Todd "Slan" Bradley)
Subject: Pulling Your Pud (was Re: Beastie Boys pull...)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:06:28 GMT

In article <6crjc8d@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>
>> Me first: around here we call it pulling a Front 242 not a Nirvana.
>
>Around here we call it "pulling a Negativland".  Negativland probably
>call it something else.
>
>The first person to call this thread "pulling your pud" wins a tootsie-roll.
>

Ok.  I'm the first.  Send that roll along, fella.

Also, Negativland would surely say something like "I was a worm in the
night" and not call it "pulling" anything.

I wonder why none of the Negativland boys are on the net.  I would
just love to see a newsgroup called megabozo.alt.clorox-cowboy.


Todd.
-- 
Todd "Slan" Bradley -- Postmodern Reaganomics Renaissance Man, The 
Exception to Every Rule, An Example To All Men, The Biggest Jerk In 
The World, Supreme Ruler Of The Galaxy, AND Captain of The Flying 
Bitheads Ultimate Frisbee Team. (303) 443-6317 or 492-5826
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: atman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Thin Layer Of Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: Playlist for Up The Line, Mar 28 1992
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:43:07 GMT

In article <30265@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
>In article <1992Mar31.045648.3808@ecst.csuchico.edu> atman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Thin Layer Of Pond Scum) writes:
> 
>> LA Style                James Brown Is Dead   (R) Some tape I got
>
>Is this a thing that sounds a lot like Front 242 with some random R&B
>lyrics and the line "James Brown is Dead" repeated a few times at the
>end? 

Could be, but my version doesn't have any lyrics except "James Brown
Is Dead" throughout the whole song.  If there's something else close, 
maybe someone can post something about it.

>A local DJ played something to that effect tonite, and when I asked
>him what it was he said "I dunno, A tape someone handed me"... Arghh!

I know that's aggravating, but if the choice is either hear the music
without the artist name, or else not hear the music at all, I'll pick
playing the music every time.  You'll probably hear it again sometime.
This is the situation I was in with that Cab Volt's "Yashar" a week or
two ago.  Snot that bad.  Actually, guess what "Some tape I got" up
there means?  :)

@Man
 
-- 
  atman@ecst.csuchico.edu  ||  What good is it if it doesn't distort?
 
  In _my_ universe, in short, classes are not unreal, but they're less
  real than their members.      -- John Barth
From: heagleda@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: I want to make Music(But need help!)
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:35:46 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <1992Apr10.225551.14713@uwm.edu>, kmfdm@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Alan Johnston) writes:
> 
> I owm an IBM computer and just purchased a SOund BLASTER pro.
> And now I want to make"industrial" music with my computer.
> is this possible?
> I don't own a keyboard or sampler or drum machine or anything like that
> I need help. Does anyone out there use an IBM and produce A fair quality
> of music from it?

Think you picked the wrong computer for music, unfortunately. Good news is you
can get an Amiga 500 for cheap these days.
							Dave
							Terror Lunch Prodctns
From: carruthers@brandonu.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: COIL: THE SONG NEVER MENTIONED ON R.M.I.
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:28:32 GMT
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

In article <204459@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, damian@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Impossible Crushing Force) writes:
> There is a song by Coil that never gets mentioned on here.
> 
> CORE Compilation
> ----------------
> Track #1       FEEDER (with Coil)
> 
> Has anyone heard or seen this?

Indeed.  It's a wonderful track, too.

For those interested, it's available through Nettwerk Records.

Sean
carruthers@.tkm.BrandonU.ca
From: carruthers@brandonu.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: HELP!!! with project
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:21:59 GMT
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Apr12.233329.8182@ecst.csuchico.edu>, atman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Thin Layer Of Pond Scum) writes:
> 
> Voice -> fuzzbox -> effects box (like an Alesis Quadraverb.)
> 
Alesis Quadraverb?  Hmm, I've been using one of them for about three years
in my Electroacoustic Music course and while it's got some cool effects for
sure, it also has this really annoying hum to it.  I trust not all Quadraverbs
are so blessed?  =)

Of course, if you have a Boss SE-50 as the effects box, you can even eliminate
the fuzzbox too, being able to chain effects in the Guitar Multi section of the
SE-50...including distortion.  Mind you, running it through two distortion
units could produce an interesting effect itself if you set them right.

> The most important thing, though, is to start saving your pennies NOW
> for an Alesis ADAT digital multitrack recorder.  Trust me on this one.
> Shoot for $4000 US.  

Oh, man, I'm positively drooling....How many tracks?  I'm just too used to
an analogue 8-track with tracks 1 and 8 that roll off of the reel... =)

Sean
carruthers@tkm.BrandonU.ca
From: storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
Subject: Re: The SP tour.. (Seattle?)
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:43:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.021538.29240@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fischer) writes:
>
>Have you ever seen one of their concerts?  Well, I've had the fortune to
>make it to two (VIVIsect tour and Too Dark Park tour), and I think that
>the tracks off of Last Rights will make for excellent live material...
>
>Godflesh ought to be great as well (thank god it's not KMFDM...blah)...

	Does anybody know if they'll be going to Seattle after May 1st
or something like That..?  I'll be down there working as of the beginning
of May, and wouldn't mind seeing it....

	What exactly constitutes an "all ages" show (or restricted for that
matter) in the US...?  Here it's 18 yrs old, and even though i'm like 20 now,
as soon as I cross that border, I become a suckling infant no longer respons-
ible enough for the world of alcohol and clubs for another 5 months....

	Toodles.

-- 
  storm@cs.mcgill.ca           McGill University         C program run.  Run  
  Marc Wandschneider           Montreal, CANADA          Program run! PLEASE!
Ever wonder how Worf got to be Security Officer on the Enterprise when the 
Capt gets kidnapped from the bridge every two episodes and Troy Beats him up?
From: djs6015@cs.rit.edu (Donald J Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: DEPECHE MODE MURDERS ROUTE 66
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:48:37 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY

In article <m30XiB1w164w@tz.wimsey.bc.ca> dippybir@tz.wimsey.bc.ca (Jeremy Tolsma) writes:
>driven, NOT keeping RMI free all the terrible things in the world.  If they 
< lots of lame dm sympathy erased>
>actually sat down & thought about Depeche Mode, they probably would come 2 
>the conclusion that it is a good band, which makes some great songs, and 
>that if people want 2 discuss it on RMI, its perfectly A-OKAY, because they 
>would realize that it is GOOD when people get 2 talk about what they WANT 2 
>talk about rather than being told NOT 2 talk about something.
> 

depeche mode not being industrial debatable? theres no question... even if i



were a dm fan (which i'm not) its obvious they are not industrial, and it can
be left it that. just because you believe a band is good doesn't mean it can 
be compared with the bands that do belong here. i happen to a huge fan of 
slayer, but i don't bring it up here. anyone with any backround in industrial
music can tell the difference between techno and industrial. and wanting dm
out of here because of jealousy or hate.... no they just don't belong.

--
   | Don Smith     (yahweh)      | I've got a halo above my head     |
   |djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu     | and a gun in my hand, I can do no | 
   |djs6015@ritvax.isc.rit.edu   | wrong.           -Henry           |
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Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 21:15:08 -0400 
From: Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: FuckBlack
	<92099.085028U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>

The record in question is the EP "Headache".  However, the normal,
garden variety release of "Headache" (which is fairly easy to find)
merely features a drawing of some guy's head exploding.  It is the
collector's edition, which came complete with a "body" back that the
person is referring to.  This one had a photo of an axe victim in it,
did it not?

Joshua Buergel      | Some guy would snicker and I'd get red.
jbbb@andrew.cmu.edu | Or some guy would laugh and I'd bust his head.
                    | I'll tell, life ain't easy as a boy named sue.
                    |   All, "Boy Named Sue"
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative,rec.music.phish,talk.bizarre
From: thomas@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Thomas Jelonek)
Subject: Re: Controled Breeding
Originator: thomas@Olympus.McRCIM.McGill.EDU
Organization: McGill Research Center for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 07:36:53 GMT


In article <1992Apr7.160605.36736@dante.uucp>, mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:
|> bd_k100@kingston.ac.uk (Yertle of T.) writes:
|> : I bought Controled Bleedings 'Trudge' the other day. Fuckin' Crap it was.
|> 
|> Yep, you want to go with stuff like "Phlegm Bag Spattered," "Curd,"
|> "Core" and the like.  Avoid anything on Wax Trax, everyone should
|> have figured that out already.  C.B. have done some great stuff in
|> the past, and are working on more cool noise as well, but they've got
|> their dancey side too -- they've just finished recording a new CD
|> of similar stuff lately.  Not sure if it will be on Wax Trax or not.
|> They're also right now recording some new noise stuff for a Japanese
|> release on Alchemy Records this summer.  They're also behind the
|> massively cool Skin Chamber CD.
|> 

Well, I have `Music from the Scourging Ground' and `Songs from the
Grinding Wall' by Controlled Bleeding. I think they are both excellent,
especially the former, though they are more in style of industrial
ambiance. On the other hand, I thought `Wound' by Skin Chamber was 
one of the most boring and unimaginative works I have heard in a while.

Thomas
From: boccibob@media.mit.edu (Robert Ramstad)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Review: The Swans with Machines of Loving Grace at the Paradise 4/8/92
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:14:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr10.181431.14225
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

MoLG was quite good, I was pretty
impressed, though the crowd had 0 energy all night, probably because
doors were supposed to open at 8, they opened more like 9, and MoLG
didn't go on until probably 9:45 or so.  They played for about 45
minutes.  Industrial, but not *EXTREMELY* so, and quite listenable.  I
liked them, though they didn't blow me away or anything.  They are interesting
and probably very palatable to a fairly wide audience -- they just might
become bigger than NIN in a few years.

The Swans were the loudest hypnotic jangly guitar dirge band I've ever
seen.  Loudest show I've ever been to, actually.  If the lead
guitarist wanted to, he could do something funky with one of his
strings, turn around to face his amplifiers, and cause pain in the
audience because of excessive feedback.  Really wild.  I'm not sure if
I really "enjoyed" the show, it was very depressing and very loud and
very painful, but it was cathartic.  The crowd was basically dead,
just staring at the stage.  Not to say the tunes didn't have beat -- many
of the songs were dancable in a fairly traditional punk mode, and
people were swaying a bit, but it never erupted into anything
resembling a traditional Paradise show (i.e. people slamdancing to
completely inappropriate music).  If I had to compare them to
any band, it would definitely be Joy Division, though perhaps Sonic Youth,
Jesus & Mary Chain, and early Bad Brains would also be in the mix.

There were some really blatant tapers in the audience... people with mics
off their hats or in their hands held above their heads.

(I trade bootlegs of shows, especially local shows, if you have anything
interesting, please drop me an e-line.)

All in all, worth $8.

Bob
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: cs012012@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz)
Subject: Re: Recoil/Nitzerebb
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:08:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.033858.23401@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, chm8v@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Chris "Dread" Mann) writes:
|> Has anybody heard the new single by a band called Recoil?
|> I think it has Douglas McCarthy from Nitzerebb singing and Alan
|> Wilder from Depeche Mode doing the music.  Could this be because
|> Alan helped Nitzerebb produce some of their last album?  The single 
|> isn't bad and has 7 different versions.  It seems like an album will
|> follow entitled _Bloodline_, hopefully it will be pretty good.
|> 
|> 					Later, 
|> 						Chris

i got this cd single recently and like it a lot. i believe douglas mccarthy
is just doing "guest vocals" on this, so i assume the album is pretty much
an alan wilder project (perhaps with various interesting friends helping out).
the single itself features 7 mixes, including remixes by LFO and
Moby/R. Hall/Barracuda/whatever (who can keep up with this man?). they're
interestingly varied, mostly feeling sort of techno with a slight flavor of 
depeche mode. interesting detail: mix #2 (don't remember the name) has some
very LFO-sounding stuff (even though the LFO mix is #4); anyway, that's my
favorite.
recommended.

mike
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Samples in LA Style
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:14:40 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

I just heard (the not so new) tune from L.A. Style "James Brown is Dead"
Those samples in the song, are they Front 242?
(The sound of the guy saying something..maybe backwards and the
start out music...which sounds like Fronts newest album Tyranny)
 - Kirk
From: dippybir@tz.wimsey.bc.ca (Jeremy Tolsma)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: I want to make Music(But need help!)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 04:09:52 PDT
Organization: Somewhere in The Twilight Zone, Vancouver, B.C

kmfdm@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Alan Johnston) writes:

> 
> I owm an IBM computer and just purchased a SOund BLASTER pro.
> And now I want to make"industrial" music with my computer.
> is this possible?
> I don't own a keyboard or sampler or drum machine or anything like that
> of music from it?  What is needed to start out Can someone help me out
> Thanks
> miek j
> 
> mike J]
> 
> .
> .
> .
> ZZ
> aghhh.!
> 

 
SURE of course its possible, but y fiddle around anyways?  I suggest u sell 
your computer & your SBpro, & buy a few hours at a local recording studio 
which has keyboards, samplers, drum machines, & things like that.  Turn them 
all on, press the buttons, move the sliders, and turn the knobs.  OH dont 
4get 2 flick the switches & twiddle the joysticks.  This always helps.  
Remember that true artists never toss anything out, or spend more than a few 
seconds trying 2 get that certain sound.  U mite also want 2 bring along a  
few friends so they can be doing things at the same time as u, thus being 
more efficient.  OK... end up with 45 minutes or so worth of noise (this 
should take approx 50-60 mins).  There u go, your very own industrial 
record.  It will also be on the cutting edge of industrial because no 
respectable label would actually sign brilliance like this, & only allow 
their vetran artists 1 or 2 songs per record that sound as good as yours do. 
Find more money somewhere & cut your own CDS, try 2 sell them at your gigs.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: I like the way you fill out your clothes
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:06:17 GMT
Organization: Living in a satellite fantasy, waiting for the night to end.

etamuzs1@cc.swarthmore writes:

>>> ``You wanna know something Red
>>>   I like you
>>>   I like everything about you
>>>   I like the way you fill out your clothes
>>>   I've gotta soak my head under your hose''

Sounds like it's from THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (Cary Grant, Katherine Hepburn,
Jimmy Stewart) to me.  Cary Grant says it, talking to Hepburn.

> I think that that quote is just TOO WEIRD to be from any real source.
> Why would anybody have the need to say "I've gotta soak my head under
> your hose!" the way that it is said. Why would anybody say that in ANY
> way?!?!?! 

Rent the movie and find out.  It's one of the coolest films ever made.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"forests falling at a desperate pace"
From: mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu (LUCAS MICHAEL W.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: BACK and FORTH
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:58:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: vela.14670
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.


The label says 50 copies of this SP tape were made.
They were all done by hand.  The first few are "good" copies, and the
rest were done on a high-speed dubbing machine
cEVIN got tired after doing the first 35 or so, however, and so
the last 10-20 tapes (the number varies according to the source)
simply don't exist.

If you have a tape numbered #49 or so, it's probably a bootleg.



-- 
"Nuke Us!  Please!"			Michael Lucas
     --Emmerson Brinmore		mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu  OR
"Oh, no, not again!"			mwlucas@oakland
     --Everyone who was with him at the time
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