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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Mac Aquarium
From: demers@mdcbbs.com (Diane DeMers)
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:36:15 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: M&E (Division of EDS), Cypress CA
Keywords: macintosh, aquarium

In article <1992Oct10.153242.1563@guinness.idbsu.edu>, gusbergi@idbsu.edu writes:
|>  Has anyone ever heard or seen a text file that lets you turn a macintosh
|> computer into an aquarium?  My tyrant of a boss seems to think that there is
|> one out there somewhere detailing the process.  If you have ever heard of such
|> a file please let me now for we have a few (16) old Macintosh Pluses with
|> trashed power packs and cpu's that we would like to turn into pleasant homes
|> for goldfish.
|> 
|> Rob Bergin
|> Faculty Computer Lab
|> Boise State University
|> 

I know several people with a 'screen-saver' program that displays fish swimming
around on the screen, and makes little bubbling noises, when the machine is not 
in use. This may be what your boss is thinking about. But it does require a 
functional computer.

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From: mstephens.520@postman.gsfc.nasa.gov (mark stephens)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: (Non-)Aquascaping Mo-Fo!
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:56:23 GMT
Organization: nasa/gsfc

A 20H is limiting for even normal aquascaping...

When I ever get to setup an african tank I was planing on looking into using
lava rock (the man made stuff?) and drilling out holes in the backs and
having some type of support system in the rear of the tank.  The support
system would have dowels of a sutable material designed to fit the holes
drilled in the lava rock.

What the support system is I don't know.  Plexiglass might do but would 
be expensive.  Depends on how heavy lava rock is (not very, but it still
has weight!).  Unless the support system was flexable (eg, some type of 
large holed pegboard so you could move the dowels around, you would have
to tailor it to the size of the rocks.

    mark

In article <1992Oct15.012916.10603@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
> 
> Does anyone besides myself feel completely at a loss trying to aquascape fo
> cichlids?  It seems there are just so many way I can throw rocks around the
> bottom of an aquarium.  I think the most creative thing I've read/heard about
> (about 1,000,000 times!!) is (*snotty*),"Stack one flat rock on two others to
> make a cave.."  (*unsnotty*)  This idea sucks.  I hate the idea of Stonehenge
> in my tank.  Anyone not as lost os me and have some suggestions?
> 
> 
> Part of my problem may just be my settup.  I have 20H w/one ~5" Oscar, and a
> tin-foil Barb and Hypost. both ~4"-5" .  Do I just not have enough to work
> with?
> 
> 			-Matt
> 
>
From: deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: QUESTION: Concerns in feeding live food
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:55:34 GMT
Reply-To: Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu>
Organization: ARCI, Inc.

I am a little concerned about feeding goldfish and other live foods to my  
Lionfish.  I am mainly concerned with the chance of introducing unknown  
bacteria to the tank.  Is the only thing I can do to protect the regular  
tank inhabitants other then checking that the fish are healthy when  
purchased?  What about feeding dead fish??
From: jimh@ultra.com (Jim Hurley)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: flow rate of eheim 1050 p
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:37:37 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies

In <1992Oct10.4599.6283@dosgate> "jon simkins" <jon.simkins@canrem.com> writes:

>JM>I plan to replace my Eheim 1050 hobby pump with
>JM>a canister filter with the same flow rate to add
>JM>chemical filtration to my wet-dry filter. I can't
>JM>find anything within the documentation that states
>JM>the flow rate (Gallons/Liters per hour) of this
>JM>pump. I seem to remember it's around 300GPH but
>JM>would like to know if any of the net experts
>JM>know for sure.

>According to the Eheim published specs, the 1050 moves 1200 liters per
>hour. My experience with Eheim suggests that they err on the
>conservative side; however, if your pump has seen hard use, it's
>probably slightly less efficent. Hope this helps.
>---
> ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ 
>--
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>World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

I got a 1050 pump for my 100g, but it was just too strong
for my plants (at about a 4' head), so I switched to the smaller
1250 pump. It's a bit weaker than I'd like, but it's quiet
and reliable. I suppliment the flow with a Magnum 220.

I find it hard to believe that you will find a cannister
filter that will match the flow rate of the 1050.
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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: 'stained glass' fish - genuine or modified fakes?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 13:26:56 GMT


You made a good point.  Distributors not telling the dealers.  Just as
unscrupulous as the dealer that knows.  And as for the people that just
"pick up what they know" at the store, I usually stay away from those type
of establishments.  If you're going to sell something, you should be
extremely knowledgeable about what it is you sell.  I don't take my car to
be repaired by people that learned their mechanical stuff from the car
that came in yesterday.
As for humane, I don't think so.  I'm glad you brought that up.  While I
have never seen the procedure that is used to inject the dye, I can't
believe that it is harmless from the fish point of view.
Oh well.  They won't stop selling them as long as people buy them.
Like I said before, DON'T buy them.
Don't buy puppies and kittens at those chain pet stores either.
You are contributing to the further inhumane conditions of the puppy mills
where they were bred.  If people would not buy the things, there would not
be the problem that exists because of it.
I know, I went off the subject there, but talking about dealers and
distributors and 'painted' glass fish made me think of it.

Rambling Uncle Fester

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From: jartsu@vipu.hut.fi (Jartsu)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: (ALL) Use of Headers in posts
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:08:51 GMT
	<92288.222023ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
	<1992Oct15.155843.11575@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Reply-To: Jari.Lehto@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <1992Oct15.155843.11575@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior) writes:

> I always get this confused even though I've been reading this group 
> for 3 years now... should we use "()" or "{}" or "[]"?

PLEASE ALL, use (). (and why not --, **, ##, ::, !! or //?)
Combinations {} or [] are:
	1) Hard to use or find on many keyboards, () usually can be
	   typed easily on any keyboard.

	2) These characters are replaced with special letters in many
	   countries that have extended alphabets but need 7bit 
	   character set for communications. For example here we use 
	   Finnmish/Swedish keyboard/charachter set, and {} is little
	   a with two dots and little a with one dot, and [] is same 
	   in upper case. Really hard to read... and to remember which
	   is which for you who use plain ASCII.
	   I think this is the situation in Germany and France too,
	   and maybe in many other European coutries too.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:00:15 EDT
From: <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: exit smiling
Distribution: alt

In article <19928.4599.6259@dosgate>, "jon simkins" <jon.simkins@canrem.com>
says:
>
>        1. Cut off the fish's head. Quick death, I'm sure but
>           very stressful for both me and the fish.
>
>        2. Place the poor critter on ice in a sealed container and place
>           that in the freezer. Apparently the fish will lose it fairly
>           peacefully.
>

My method of choice is:

         3. Get them in a net and drop them into the in-sink-er-a-tor (tm)
            and turn the thing on.  I've found that it is extremely fast for
            the fishy, and clean and easy for me.  (Well, not easy.  I *hate*
            loosing a fish.  I get that empty failure feeling)

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From: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: (Non-)Aquascaping Mo-Fo!
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:00:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.185623.18764@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, mstephens.520@postman.gsfc.nasa.gov (mark stephens) writes:
> A 20H is limiting for even normal aquascaping...
> 
> When I ever get to setup an african tank I was planing on looking into using
> lava rock (the man made stuff?) and drilling out holes in the backs and
> having some type of support system in the rear of the tank.  The support
> system would have dowels of a sutable material designed to fit the holes
> drilled in the lava rock.
> 
> What the support system is I don't know.  Plexiglass might do but would 
> be expensive.  Depends on how heavy lava rock is (not very, but it still
> has weight!).  Unless the support system was flexable (eg, some type of 
> large holed pegboard so you could move the dowels around, you would have
> to tailor it to the size of the rocks.
> 
>     mark

Hmmm......Thanks for the tips.....some food for thought, at the very least!  
Thanks!

				-Matt
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,alt.backrubs,alt.tv.simpsons
From: sonic@cray.com (Curtis L. Swanson)
Subject: Re: Do you all realize what you're doing?
Followup-To: alt.cascade
Distribution: world,local
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:44:27 CDT

Accckk.  Pffffffttttt.

In article <JARTSU.92Oct10142535@lk-hp-10.hut.fi>, jartsu@vipu.hut.fi (Jartsu) writes:
> 
> You don't seem to realize what you are doing...
You don't seem to penalize your complaining...

> This kind of fooling around only wastes bandwidth and diskspace.
This kind of rolling around only increases bandwidth-induced laughter.

> Go join the other kids and leave the net alone.
Go join the other spuds and grow like a potato.

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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: Re: mystery eggs found
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:16:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.213441.2772@microsoft.com> jony@microsoft.com (Jonny Yeargers) writes:
>Well..its immaterial now.. somebody ate them. 

If you are lucky.  Or they have all hatched out and now you have an
infestation of snails.
-- 
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From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Unwanted Postings...Net Abuse
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:08:13 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

If someone persists in sending mail like some of the stuff I have
seen here, simply send his System Administrator a note.  If you
do not know the SysAdmin or need the address, send me a note.  I 
have a friend who knows SysAdmins all over the world, I might can
get it for you.  If the guy is a student, he could just lose his account,
or he may be kicked out os school.  If he is an employee, he could
lose his job.  I have seen people in both categories have all of the
abose happen ot them for abusive behavior regarding the net.

When something happens once or twice, I normally let it go.  It 
really could be a mistake.  The next time I send a note telling then
what is happening and ask if they realize it.  After that, if the
abuse persists, a note to the SysAdmin is appropriate, in my 
opinion.  *smile*

Just my two bits!  Have a nice day......

Suzanne

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
From: jartsu@vipu.hut.fi (Jartsu)
Subject: Weird gadget, opinions?
Reply-To: Jari.Lehto@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:02:19 GMT


One day I was visiting an aquaria shop nearby and when I asked the
owner (old, VERY experienced aquaria hobbyist, makes even all his
extracts and additives himself!) about various CO2-injection systems
etc, he showed me something I had never seen before and still wonder
if it can be so wonderful thing as he stated.

He told me that the large tank (several hundred liters open top) he
keeps the plants for sale (and lots of them) has no CO2-injection, it
has something a lot better: a hydrogen peroxide operated "thing" which
maintains both high O2 and CO2 levels, ozonizes the water and
everything stays healthier, happier and cleaner this way. And the
plants were in wonderful condition, not to mention how fresh and
healthy all those fish living in that tank seemed to be, no algae, and
extremely clear water and clean bottom.

The gadget itself is a ceramic, hmm, lets say mug, with a ceramic ball
as a lid. Under the lid there is a plastic bottle upside down,
containing some hydrogen peroxide blended with distilled water and few
pieces of brown coal. The cap of the bottle had small holes, to keep
the coal inside but let the gas to come out. And the ceramic ball was
there to hold the bottle inside the mug.

I think I have heard that some people use this kind of things in
Marine setups, but it seems to work perfectly well in Freshwater setup
as well.

PLEASE, could somebody tell me something about this, before I go and
buy one. It is not so expensive (in this expansive country of Finland)
having a pricetag of about $50, but the hydrogen peroxide is very
expensive when bought in small quantities from a pharmacy. It is quite
cheap when bought in large quantities, 35kg/30liter minimum, costs the
same as few liters in pharmacy. 
So I'd like to see comments and explanations before I rush and buy
35kg hydrogen peroxide and find it useless...


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From: assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (Assana Fard)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:07:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: polkadot

In article <15990004@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:
>              Please answer these 9 questions and return.
>
>1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
>2.) Are you pro choice?
>3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
>4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
>rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
>5.) What sex are you?
>6.) How old are you?
>7.) What religion are you?
>8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
>9.) How many years of education have you completed?

WHAT????!!!
Am I missing something here?!
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From: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: (Non-)Aquascaping Mo-Fo!
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:59:44 GMT

> I have a 530l tank (1.5m long), and I have had some problems as well.
> The tank is so much bigger than our previous (100l) that it has taken a while
> to get used to it and see the possibilities. It has also taken a while for the
> plants to achieve a size where we can see what they will look like in
> the final product. We have just redone the whole thing. It starts off with a
> barren, rocky landscape at one end. Rather big stones. Some flat ones tilting
> up here an there. Some roots that create the big cave for the Severums (They like
> some kind of shelter when they breed). The landscape calms down gradually, to smooth rounded stones, and then to pure gravel. Big plants at the gravel end, more sparse
> towards the barren end. It looks nice. I hope the fish agree.


That sounds like a very nice set-up.  Sorta like the side of a river.  A
dregree of authenticity (realism?)!   A have tried planting a cutting from
another tank in the 20Hgal. w/Oscar and company.   Plants are definately a
no-go.  I keep trying to think of different rock arrangements, but evrytime I
think of an idea I always wonder how I'm going to clean the tank.   Will I have
 to "undress" the tanks for every cleaning?  Bad idea....the tank would
probably go uncleaned for unappropriate lengths of time if I did that.

Oh wOh well....I'm thinking of moving up to a 30Lgal. tank, so maybe I'll get a
better idea, or forget about it....

				-Matt
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: jdw6970@tamuts.tamu.edu (John David Williams)
Subject: graduate school
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:10:12 GMT


Can any body suggest any good graduate school to go to for aquarium fish
aquaculture? or something related to that?
From: mike@cs.umb.edu (Michael J. Thibodeau)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: need help raising/keeping grass shrimp
Keywords: shrimp
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:46:37 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

I have as yet had zero success in keeping grass shrimp alive for more than a
single day after getting them home. Has anyone had success keeping and raising
grass shrimp to adulthood?
-mike
From: jward@hydra.acs.uci.edu (John Ward)
Subject: Re: [joke] An oldie but a goodie...
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:31:28 GMT

In article <SDCST6.92Oct12223614@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu> sdcst6@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu (Stephen D Cohen) writes:
>
>> Don't remember who wrote it, but here is a Dr. Demento favorite...
>
>     A group called "White Boy Rap".

I believe it's from comedian Kip Adata (sp).
--
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From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: I've Been Infested!
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Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:20:41 GMT


I have to differ with Steve Shine's pronouncement that Maracide is merely
a "symptomatic treatment" and that you can starve them by increasing tank
maintenence and decreased feeding amounts.  
Just how much do you think a flatworm eats?
Sure, increased tank maintenence will control them, but without the
aforementioned symptomatic treatment with Maracide or another parasitic
eliminator, all I can say is:

                             They'll be back.

Uncle Fester

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From: davep@paladin.corp.sgi.com (David Packer)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: [S] Maroon Clown help part II
Date: 12 Oct 1992 20:54:52 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: paladin.corp.sgi.com

I went home to check up on my Maroon clown to see what
progress the illness(unknown!) has made.

It still is progressing around the other side of the
clown. I also noticed (2) dis-colored bumps forming
approx. 1/2" behind the right gill-fin(sorry I don't know
the technical name). the (2) bumps are fairly near each
other and are approx 1/8"+ in size protruding only slightly.


Dave

PLEASE HELP ME SAVE MY CLOWN!!
From: mstephens.520@postman.gsfc.nasa.gov (mark stephens)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Possible dumb question
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:23:04 GMT
Organization: nasa/gsfc

I have not heard of any kits.  But consider that the typical aqarium
is cheap.  You should be able to find one for $1 - $1.30 per gallon,
the higher the total gallons the higher the cost.  Of course, I'm
assuming that you are doing it to save money.  There are lots of other
reasons to build one!  

Like say you want that 2x2x8 footer room divider.

    mark

In article <9210071905.AA00375@fozzy.aud.alcatel.com>, stecker@FOZZY.AUD.ALCATEL.COM (David Stecker) writes:
> 
> Are there kits out there to build your own aquarium?
> 
> If there are if a newbie tries this is he likely to
> got a few gallons of water in his living room?
> 
>
From: janet.rawlins@the-matrix.com (Janet Rawlins) 
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: WHY IS THIS IN HERE??
Date: 11 Oct 92 06:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: janet.rawlins@the-matrix.com (Janet Rawlins) 

-> >>>>>>>>Fuzzy Wuzzy was insatiable.  Pleased to ignite muck--moldy,
-> though >>>>>>>>bemused.

Does anyone have any idea why this juvenile nonsense keeps getting
dumped into an aquarium conference??

Just wondering.....


                                        Janet Rawlins
                                                                                                        
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: baskin@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Canister Filters
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:41:06 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: baskin@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <1992Oct15.224827.142600@watson.ibm.com>  cliff@watson.ibm.com (cliff) writes:
> Supposedly one has to clean the cannister about once every three months.

Three months?  I clean mine about every month, and it is dirty.  I
agree with you; it is a pain to clean.  My other tank has 2 Ovation
Supremes.  These are the type that go inside the tank.  They are a
pleasure to clean.

--
Mat Baskin       baskin@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria