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From: chipp@tsmnet5.uucp (Chipp Kuldell)
Subject: Re: IIsi question related to Apple XMAS special
Organization: E-Systems, Melpar Division
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:20:52 GMT

Faisal Nameer Jawdat <fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>osuch@acadia.Kodak.COM (Bill O'Such) writes:
>> I recently got a flyer from Apple for a XMAS special.  A MAC IIsi,
>> 3MB memory, 40MB hard disk, 14 inch color monitor, extended keyboard,
>> all for $1699.  It seems like a good deal (maybe too good) for home.
>> Are there any problems with the IIsi or is there something in this
>> deal that I'm missing.

>Well that's such a ridiculously minimal configuration that I wouldn't
>ever consider it.  For any sort of serious use you'll need at least 5
>megs ram and an 80 meg hard drive, or system 7 will be a dog, and
>you'll run out of drive space in a flash.

True, you will want to upgrade.  As far as any problems with the
IIsi, the only one I'm aware of is availability.  It took me three
months to harass my vendor, his distributor, and Apple to actually
send me the one I ordered (this was June->Sept of this year).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: new macs
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:18:21 GMT

Neal_Pitts@uu0570.foggybottom.com writes:

>There is a rumor going around that the Q800 will have a DSP built in.  Anyone
>heard anything like this?

  I doubt that Apple will have a built-in DSP machine until
midway through next year when they release the first of the Cyclone
series.

  Of course, they could offer a NuBus board with a DSP chip...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: STMQ%MARIST.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Michael Quigley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: One Last Question..
Date: 13 Dec 1992 21:30:31 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi All,

I have one last question for you.. I really appreciate the help that
you have given me so far with my questions..

I have a Centronics parallel Panasonic KXP-1124i printer.. Is there
any way that I can make this work with my Mac when I purchase it?? I
really don't want to have to throw this printer out just because I am
changing platforms..

Thanks,

- Mike -

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Darren_E._Tong@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:09:30 EST
Subject: IIsi on it's side

I've been rumming my shouldn't be a problem-but don't hold me to it if
something goes wrong-my si has a 5/40 with no accel!

good luck 
BTW-it saves a lot of space oon my desk-if thats your point!


- BulkRate 1.3... and worth every penny! (what's left, that
is)-darren_tong@fourd.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bruner@sp10.csrd.uiuc.edu (John Bruner)
Subject: Re: Powerbook/Duo keyboards
Organization: CSRD, University of Illinois
	<truesdel-161292204312@mac_dungeon.ics.uci.edu>
	<1992Dec17.191121.4608@planets.risc.rockwell.com>
	<1992Dec17.201218.3215@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: na
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:51:42

Can an ADB keyboard (e.g., an Apple extended keyboard) be plugged in
to a Powerbook and used in place of the built-in keyboard?
--
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From: keesh@wsinti01.info.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook 160/180 to VGA pinout needed (ANSWER)
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:23:35 GMT
Reply-To: keesh@info.win.tue.nl

keesh@wsinti01.info.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing) writes:

I have found a pinout for a PowerBook to VGA connection. I tested it on a 3M
LCD projection screen, which has synchronisation capabilities. It didn't
work on an ordinary VGA monitor without multisync.

Anyway, the pinout is:

Mac 15 pins, 2 rows:

2 red				1 red
3 composite sync		13 horizontal sync
5 green				2 green
9 blue				3 blue
12 vertical sync		14 vertical sync
1 red vid gnd	   }		
4 monitor ID bit 1 }	      { 4 monitor ID bit 2
6 green video gnd  }	      { 6,7,8,10,11 ground
13 blue video gnd  }

If someone has comments on this , or experiences with multisync monitors, I
would like to hear them.

About the connection protocol:

1. connect the video cables to the Mac
2. plug the Mac in
3. start the Mac

The monitor can be switched on and off independently. The important thing
is that the Mac needs to know which monitor is connected at startup. It
doesn't really need the monitor, it needs the cable. 

When the PowerBook is not plugged in, it refuses to do external video.

Changes about the number of colours etc. can be changed after startup with
the Monitors control panel. Cahnges take effect after closing the panel.

Video mirroring (set with the PowerBook display control panel) has to be
correct at startup.

					Kees
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cs123052@cs.brown.edu (Michael Lee)
Subject: Re: Looking for a PB100
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:38:12 GMT

In article <63.2b28f977@ivgate> keith.jones@macrocosm.omahug.org writes:
>Does anyone know where I could find a new Mac Powerbook 100?  Do you know the
>price.  I understand they are selling very cheap in retail outlets but I cannot
>locate one.  
>
>Do those run on a 000 or a 020 chip?

PB100's use a 68000 chip running at 16mHz
From: lau@aero.org (David D. Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Warning:  Duo's incompatible with Before Dark
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:51:41 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: All
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

Hi,
  Hopefully this post will save someone ALOT of headaches that I had
to go through with my Powerbook Duo.

  My experience concerns the hard disk crashing all the time whenever I
was for to do a hard shutdown (system freezes or bombs).  The Disk Tools
floppy would respond with "This disk is damaged. Do you want to Initialize?"
The cuplrit was Bafore Dark.  This nifty sharware utility changes the
mundane desktip background to neat patterns.  Unfortunately whatever it
does to the system file or desktop is not entirely compatible with System7.1
or the Duo.  I am not sure about other Macs running system 7.1.  Maybe someone
can check this out.

Evidently the Volume Information Block gets corrupted.  It requires MacTools2.0
to repair otherwise your only solution is to reformat.  This is a pain because
NO ONE has System 7.1 Emergency Utility disks out there.  Creating your
own is close to impossible.  A minimum system 7.1 floppy takes up about
1.2 Meg of space.  Neither MacTools or Norton can fit.
  I ended up borrowing an external HD, buying the special Powerbook
SCSI cable, installing a bootable system 7.1 and running MacTools off that.
A major pain  !!!  I eventually figured it out and trashed Before Dark
lest I forget and install it again.

  Hopefully this will save some one from wasting countless hours trying to
recover their hard drive.

David
lau@aerospace.aero.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Cameron Esfahani <dirty@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: DogCow - where it comes from
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 00:21:30 EST
Organization: CAEN-The University of Michigan
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Dec 92 05:22:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.142900.29942@netcom.com> Brian Kendig,
bskendig@netcom.com writes:
>ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>>
>>I found out where the Dogcow comes from (download it from cica!). Go
>>to any Mac and pull up the Page Setup. Click on _Options_. See the 
>>DogCow? Its supposedly named "Claris" - supposedly the mascot for the 
>>Mac Systems Software group.
>
>Nope, that's "Clarus".  "Miss Clarus" to you.  And I believe she's the
>mascot of DTS.  For detailed information, get Tech Note 31.

Clarus is dead.  I don't know the exact circumstances but I was talking
to some 
people who work for DTS, and they told me she had died.

I still have my black armband on....


Cameron "Make Mine a 99" Esfahani
dirty@engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Radius24xp/MacIIx
From: wgentry@netlink.cts.com (William Gentry)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:22:30 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

I've heard of some problems with the Radius PrecisionColor 24xp and the 
Macintosh IIx. Has anyone had experience with this setup? I plan to hook 
up the card to an Apple 16" Color. Any feedback regarding these products 
would be appreciated. Thanks.

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From: gt8237a@prism.gatech.EDU (GARRARD,JEFF WILLIAM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: extended keyboard wanted
Date: 13 Dec 92 03:09:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Anyone out there have an extended keyboard they'd like to sell or trade?
I've got money or software to offer in exchange...

-Jeff Garrard,Georgia Tech
gt8237a@prism.gatech.edu
  
  
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,com.sys.mac.misc
From: Norbert Mueller <K360171@alijku11.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
Subject: Re: 8.24GC, anyone?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7536AFECB016205@nmueller.chemie.uni-linz.ac.at>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Dec 92 09:59:10 GMT
Organization: Johannes Kepler Univ., Inst. of Chemistry
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:00:56 GMT

Very frustrating matter. Apple Austria has never offered an exchange or
reimburse-
ment program. I am stuck with this card using it as a very expensive 8.24
on a
Q950 now as a second monitor card, cannot even get more than 256 colors on
the 16" monitor.

IT IS THE WORST SUPPORTED PRODUCT APPLE EVER MARKETED!
(Next to the ImageWriter LQ)



Norbert MSller
Institute of Chemistry
Johannes Kepler University
A-4040 Linz
Austria 
e-mail K360171@ALIJKU11.bitnet
       K360171@EDVZ.uni-linz.ac.at
       Norbert@soft.uni-linz.ac.at
From: truesdel@ics.uci.edu (Scott Truesdell)
Subject: Re: PBs and screen savers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: ICS Department, U.C.I.
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:30:12 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

In article <rhaller-161292161030@rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu>,
rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller) wrote:
>
> Is there any consensus on whether one needs a screen saver with the backlit
> supertwist screens in the new powerbooks (160, and duos)? The backlighting
> goes away automatically with inactivity.

There is absolutely no reason to have a screen 'saver' on a PowerBook.
Other than for entertainment purposes, that is...  :-)

It is MUCH MUCH better for your screen to 'Sleep' than to keep it lit up
and running, even with a screen saver. Apple addresses this in the
'PowerBook' Control Panel for System 7.1. If you click the 'Options...'
button then click 'Don't sleep when plugged in.' you will see an Alert that
cautions against running the PowerBook for long periods.

  --scott
From: tcwan@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple 13" rgb monitor switches off after use for about 15-20 mins
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:37:46 GMT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <386@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov>, rdmonso@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (monson robert d) writes:
> 
> This sounds like the same problem I had.  It turned out to be a bad
> high voltage capacitor, a common problem according to our computer
> repair people.  Apple published a bulletin (to authorized repair
> personnel) which said they would reimburse consumers for the repair cost
> if the monitor's serial number (or was it the capacitor's? -- its been a
> while and I'm a bit fuzzy) fell within a certain range.  I qualified and
> Apple reimbursed me for my repair bill.  I think this this program only
> lasted for a few months and has since expired.

Well, I had mine done in Aug 92, and it was still on. I believe it goes
at least until March 93. Couldn't hurt to check with your dealer.

They require the Cap serial number for confirmation. The serial number of the
monitor itself will indicate if it has a capacitor from the defective batch.
However, since users are not supposed to open the monitor up, they don't
supply the cap. serial number (except to repair persnel). Monitors from
about the beginning of 1990 should fall in this range though.

Your repair experience may vary, but I had to get mine repaired 3 times before
it is finally working correctly.....

t.c.
#I speak for myself :)
From: simonc@otter.hpl.hp.com (Simon Chandler)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:28:04 GMT
Subject: powerbook to Unix (Q)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware

Dear comp.sys.mac.hardware readers,

I currently have a Quadra hooked up to a Unix network via ethernet.  I
use MacTCP and NFS/Share to put my Unix filespace on my Mac desktop.

QUESTION : Can I do the same with a powerbook ???

i.e.,

* Is there an internal slot in any of the powerbooks to take an
  ethernet card? or,

* Is there an external SCSI-to-ethernet adaptor box ?

* Do MacTCP and NFS/Share (or similar) work with the powerbook and its
  system softawre ?

* Anyone already doing this ?


Please reply via e-mail

Thanks for your help

Simon Chandler
Hewlett-Packard Ltd (CPB)
Filton Road
Stoke Gifford
Bristol
BS12 6QZ

Tel: 0272 228109
Fax: 0272 236091
email: simonc%hpcpbla.bri.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com
From: wondertr@fraser.sfu.ca (wondertree learning center)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: MAC IIvx video???
Summary: MAC IIvx Video
Keywords: Mac IIvx Video
Date: 16 Dec 92 03:43:32 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

Can someone please tell me once and for all what video formates the IIvx
supports? I don't want rumours.... I need facts....

I just read an article in MACUSER that says they support a 16" monitor.
(what I want to buy and use)

whereas, IIvx documentation says only up to the 14" is supported 
(what I don't want believe)

 
Please tell me it isn't so, Joe!


TED
From: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Apple 13" monitor do VGA?
Date: 12 Dec 1992 17:06:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jkyser@netcom.com (Jeff Kyser) says:

>I am interested in using an Apple 13" RGB monitor as a VGA display for a TI
>notebook.  
> 
>1)  Is this possible?  I know that some VGA monitors will work with the Mac
>    but I haven't heard anything about Apple monitors working with VGA.
> 
>2)  How would I go about building a monitor cable?  The Apple monitor has a
>    large 15 pin connector while the TI has a compact 15 pin connector.  
> 
>Any help would be appreciated.
> 
>Jeff
>-- 
>Jeff Kyser      jkyser@netcom.com      {amdahl,apple,claris}!netcom!jkyser
>
 As far as I know Jeff, the AppleColor 13" RGB Display CANNOT do VGA. Apple
has changed naming on its new monitors to help depict this by calling them:
"Macintosh 14" Color Display" or "Macintosh 16" Color Display" or
"Macintosh 21" Color Display".....MACINTOSH MACINTOSH....for use only on
the Macintosh. I believe that the Performa monitors (though crappy they may
be) will work with VGA, I could be wrong though. Happy hunting! :-)
 
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:24235 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:33308 comp.sys.intel:2713
From: god@hale.cts.com (David J. Calabrese)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: 486 vs. Mac Benchmarks
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 03:17:59 PST
Organization: Hale Telecommunications Inc.

ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

> In article <1992Dec11.023109.27911@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu 
> 
> >>takes care of the hardware. So no advantage to the Mac here. I don't see
> >>why System 7 should have any less overhead than Windows would when doing
> >>graphics. If you have a video accelrator card installed, the drivers have
> >>to do a simpler job. If you don't theres all that low-level writing to the 
> >>hardware that needs to be done. Doesn't matter whether you have a Mac or 
> >>a PC. 
> >
> >This would be the case if Windows was as well optimized as System 7.0 w.r.t.
> >graphics.  In my experience, this is NOT the case.  I don't have a good
> >Windows machine (what an oxymoron) available to test with now-days, so I 
> >can't give numbers.  Most Windows machines that can keep up with a Mac 
> >with an equally fast CPU have a graphics accelerator, whereas the Mac 
> >doesn't.
> 
> This may be true, but that'll mean comparing an Si to a very low-end
> 
> OK. Easy way to prove this. Do my spreadsheet in WingZ _and_ Excel on 
> your machine and post the results. 
> 
> 
> You can get WingZ for Windows too, by the way. Excel 4 beats it (and 
> 1234W) in features (ones I actually use, mind you) and ease of use. 
> I'll bet if I ran 123 v. 2.0 (where is that disk?) alone under DOS
> I'd get screaming performance - better than Excel 4. But why would I?

 
Wow, it's a good thing that all this arguing about platforms
is keeping us from doing anything that's actually productive.
 
Personally, I think the the RISC technology in the Super
Nintendo makes the best price/performance combo.  Also,
with the new SCSI-II joystick interface with auto-fire
(at up to 33Mhz -- I'd like to see an alien space-craft
even TRY to survive that!), the file-server potential
is nearly unlimited...
 
* david j. calabrese *
 
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From: hunter@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Hunter Scales)
Subject: Memory SIMMs for the LCII
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:13:27 GMT


	I wanted to get a memory upgrade for my mac LCII (actually
	a Performa 400) and I have been told that the LCII uses a
	different type of SIMM than that used by the IIci, Quadra, etc.
	Is this true?  I thought that all SIMMs other than those in 
	the IIfx were the same.  If this is true, is there a designation
	to distinguish them?  How can I be sure that any used RAM that
	I buy will fit?  Thanks for the info.


-- 
Hunter Scales                                      Motorola Semiconductor Inc.
hunter@prometheus.sps.mot.com                      Austin, Texas
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