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From: souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Thanks for 7 inches
Date: 16 Dec 92 03:16:35 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

In article <15906@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <BzA2Fq.Esz@CAM.ORG> souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
>|Which was real fun when my psycho friends took me on the monster mogul
>|run, yay.  Wheeeee.... SPLAT! THUD! Bounce, bounce, bounce.
> 
>The best sign I've seen at a ski resort is one at the top of one of the
>advanced runs at Mammoth.  It reads, "When your friends say go, you have
>the right to say no. The life you save may be your own."  

Too bloody right. I let myself be guided off the lift by these guys.
I left the idiots as soon as I got to the bottom. 

The mountain doesn't care if you do the run, or avoid it entirely.
And if your pals try to coax you into unwise action, can they have
your best interests in mind?

Francois.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
From: rcf@netlink.cts.com (Bob Forsythe)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:52:34 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

aa752@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Louise Billi) writes:

> 
> 
> 
> Over 40 (just a tad) women have a terrible time of it.
> Men in that age group are all looking for the young "Tenderoni"
> to make him feel like a kid again.  Can't men realize that 
> most younger women see them as either a "Father Figure" or
> a "Sugar Daddy"?  Is that what they really want in a mate?
> 

     Nonsense.  Of the men I know over 40 (which I am, BTW), there's only 
one that I can think of who dates women young enough to be his daughter.  
For many of us, women in their 20's hold little attraction.  They haven't 
seen enough of life to be interesting.
> And it is sad today that wrinkles on a woman mean she is OLD, 
> yet on a man, they add character.  This 'youth oriented' 
> culture leaves the over 40 woman out in the cold.
> 

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From: wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston)
Subject: Re: Woman: will you go out with shorter man?
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: MITRE
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:24:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.051849.19131@watson.ibm.com>, margoli@watson.ibm.com
(Larry Margolis) wrote:
> In <1992Dec16.013133.17687@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:
> >In article <75570@apple.apple.COM> pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh) writes:
> >>In the referenced article, margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
> >>>
> >>>I've found that in bed, height differences don't generally matter...
> >>
> >>I beg to differ!  In certain positions, differing thigh lengths
> >>can make a frustrating difference ...
> >
> >Much to my occasional dismay, this also holds true for torso lenghts.
> >Makes it harder to reach several things at the same time.
> 
> "Several things"?  How many guys are you talking about?  Or is your guy rather
> unusually equipped?  :-)
> --

Gee Larry, for all your talk, I thought you would know the answer to
this!!!
:-)

-- Bill wtr@mitre.org
* If my employer knew what I was posting, I'd probaby be unemployed *
From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:33:17 -0700
Reply-To: wildrose!rkf@infoserv.com
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp


I wrote:
>}>and I found it enormously difficult to view somebody as an equal 
>}>while at the same time treating them as incapable of opening a car
>}>door.  

and Sharon O'Neil said:
>}Sure, I can explain that.  I am looking for a partner and an equal.  How can
>}I feel equal if someone is constantly opening the door for me?  It's like, I
>}have two choices?  Either he thinks I'm weak or he thinks he's my servant.
>}Either way, one of us is less than equal.

so jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes:
>Unless I'm misreading, or someone's gotten the attributions mixed up, you
>two sound perfect for each other.

Perfect? Highly unlikely :-).  But obviously in synch on this issue...

>But I'll never understand this attitude.  Why do you find it so necessary
>to attach such deep meanings to simple polite behavior?  I mean, when you
>pass the salt to someone at the dinner table, does that mean that you are
>treating them as incapable of getting the salt for themselves?  Doing 
>something for another person does not make that person weak, it doesn't
>make you a servant, nor does it make either of you less equal.  It means
>what it means:  That you are doing something nice for another person.  I

I make the distinction between simple polite behavior (the courtesies I
extend to anyone, regardless of gender or social relationship) and
behavior that is grounded in gender-differentiated social roles.
(Argh, I hate the last part of that sentence but it's the best I can do 
at the moment.. :-| )

>was raised to believe that opening doors for women was nothing more than
>polite behavior.  And I have had no trouble reconciling that behavior
>with the woman also being my equal.

Somewhere along the way I lost the ability to reconcile the two; no
regrets.  Must be old-fogeyhood setting in ;-)

-- 
-- Ray
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From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Woman: will you go out with shorter man?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:06:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
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Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <wtr-161292192606@wralston.mitre.org> wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.051849.19131@watson.ibm.com>, margoli@watson.ibm.com
>(Larry Margolis) wrote:
>> "Several things"?  How many guys are you talking about?  Or is your guy rather
>> unusually equipped?  :-)
>> --
>
>Gee Larry, for all your talk, I thought you would know the answer to
>this!!!

"Know all, see all, reveal nothing".  I didn't want to be the first to
bring up your bifurcation on the newsgroup...
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Am I banished?
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:39:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <lipoeqINN7nq@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

>Actually, at my last wedding, (and no, nobody asked but I'm telling you
>anyway) I woke up too late, had a run in my hose (wore a miniskirt too)
>ran out of nail polish remover and so had one red fingernail, (do your
>RING hand first, Lauren), and the smell of the flowers made me want to
>puke.  So I was standing there saying, "I'm going to puke, I think I'm
>going to puke" and my mother was convinced that it was morning sickness
>and kept saying "Why won't you confide in me?" and started crying because
>I wouldn't tell her the truth, except that I WAS telling her the truth.
>So I waited outside of the judge's chambers alternating "I think I'm 
>going to puke" with "I'm really not pregnant Mom, I swear" scratching
>frantically at that last scrap of red polish.  Oh, and neither of our 
>rings fit.


That's it.

I'm eloping.


-- 
The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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Newsgroups: soc.singles,misc.legal
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Size 8? (Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men)
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:09:44 GMT
	<7901@news.duke.edu> <238@cnmhnet.UUCP>
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP's message of 14 Dec 92 22:46:08 GMT

In article <238@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:

   In article <7901@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
   >Perhaps a woman could more effectively torture the two of you by
   >*refusing* to sit on your ribcages for a couple of hours?  

   Oh C'mon Elizabeth Baby, you know you're big enough
   to handle the two of them at the same time!   8-)
   --Keith

What an endearing comment *that* was.  Have you been reading Dale
Carnegie again, Keith?
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      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
From: rcf@netlink.cts.com (Bob Forsythe)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:43:21 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:

> In article <1992Dec13.165710.787@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Je
> 
> >|> You and I should talk.  I'll usually let a guy open the car door, if he
> >|> insists, but it really, really, really ANNOYS the hell out of me. 
> 
> >Now, I don't understand this at all. I do it all the time; I'm just being
> >polite, and I've never seen anyone get offended by it. Why does it annoy you
> 
> Me, I love it.  But only if the guy isn't generally patronizing.  In other
> words, it's a great way for a man to make a woman feel special -- as long
> as he's not condescending toward her at all.  I've been out with men who
> hold doors, etc., and who are also terrible misogynists; and I've been out
> with men who do all those things and genuinely like and respect me. 
> There's a world of difference.
> 
     Then there are those of us, Lauren, who do it because it's polite 
and because we happen to be holding the car keys, and don't really give a 
rat's ass how it make you feel.  Holding doors open for someone in 
nothing more than a response to our childhood training.  I'll hold doors 
open for anyone who happens to be entering after me, and I'll open car 
doors for anyone who happens to be riding with me; it doesn't matter if 
they're male or female.  You've really got to stop evaluating men on the 
basis of how "special" they make you feel.  That's one of the oldest 
ploys in the book.

Bob c/o The OTH Gang

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From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
Subject: Re: Truth
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:30:58 GMT

>: One can prove a few 'truths' -- I can prove that within the system of
>: classical logic, if one affirms the antecedent of a conditional claim

>	OK, here's my $.02:
>
>	I would postulate maybe four levels of "truth".

>	1) Physical/mathematical fact: this is a rock, I am a person,
>1+1=2, this book is open, etc.--these are never argued on the factual level,
>only for philosophical fodder (am I *really* a person, or am I just
>imagining it?). If *anything* is factual, we at least know that we exist,
>etc. etc.
>	2) Scientific theory: evolution, atomic theory, the nature of the
>universe-
		Well, A.N. Whitehead argued that metaphysics and physics
were logically connected, which, put God in your category 2.

Ted K.
From: souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:10:48 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

In article <101629@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>
>It seems that while women worry about unacceptable appearance, men worry
>about unacceptable performance -- not just sexual, but in all kinds of
>areas.  Each sex seems to look at the other and say, "Why on earth are you
>worrying about something as trivial as _that_?  You look/did just fine."
>
Coz we all have that "special relationship" in our past : the X from
hell who for whatever reason decided to spew bile upon our tender egos,
usually when we least expected or needed it. You know, the sweetheart
who asks "Do you chicks store fat in your thighs for winter?" when you're
bummed out after glancing through Cosmo and realizing the models 
therein don't look like any woman you know. Guys go thru this wonderful
experience too, in any exciting number of ways we won't get into here.
(coz if i start....) 

It's facile later on to look back and think "What an asshole/bitch",
but the scars still lie festering under the surface suppurating
insecurities into our daily discourse. About the only thing to be 
done about it is an arduous task of self-examination and finally,
acceptance of our faults & qualities. 

Francois.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: dperl@bnr.ca (Dan Perl)
Subject: Re: Localities
Reply-To: nobody
Organization: BNR Ottawa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:03:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.064240.3377@sol.UVic.CA>, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas) writes:
|> I have come across a very interesting phenomenon relating to one
|> of Stef's posts in the last two weeks. She asked whether or not 
|> any of us are, in fact, "young transplants."
|> 
|> ... stuff deleted ...
|> 
|> It appears that if we are to discover the many facets of our personality,
|> it is imperative that we live in different places on this planet as we
|> travel through this lifetime.
|> 
|> Has anyone else experienced something like this?
|> 
|> dreas 
|> 

I have lived in three countries with very different cultures (Romania, Israel,
and Canada), and recently I even moved from Western Canada to Eastern Canada.
It has had a huge effect on me.  My personality has changed many times, and I
may say that by now I have even learned to keep changing all the time.

Many of these changes usually come with age.  For instance, I have mellowed up
a lot.  But even these changes have come much quicker than for most people.

I think that there are many factors involved.
  1) Changes of environment (including culture, material situation) encourage
     other changes.  Normally there is some inertia, and people look for
     stability, but if so much changes around you, you become more receptive
     to other changes too.
  2) You get to know many people, with different personalities.  It opens
     your mind and it opens a few doors that you did not even notice before.
     You become more tolerant and more receptive to other ways of being.  You
     learn something from every person you know.  The more variety, the more
     you learn.
  3) A radical change of environment forces you to readapt.  This involves
     intense analysis.  I know a lot of foreigners, and they all tend to
     analyze and rationalize about things that seem just natural to natives.
     This analysis triggers also self-analysis, which is very useful in
     changing yourself.
These are only the factors that came to my mind right now.  There may be
others.

Anyway, I have been the member of a group of "young transplants" from all
over the world for a few years until I moved to Eastern Canada.  We were
all friends and I have to say that it was a group of fantastic people, a
group like I may never know again.  It was generally and explicitly accepted
that most of us have changed enormously during these years.  There were very
few exceptions.  There must be something about it.

I definitely think that anyone who hasn't made at least one big geographical
move in his/her life has missed a lot.

-- 
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Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blum@medici.ils.nwu.edu (Dan Blum)
Subject: Re: Giving and Receiving
Reply-To: blum@ils.nwu.edu
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:13:49 GMT

Chris Penington (cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
> In article <c*51Hx=7fb@atlantis.psu.edu> R9S@ECL.PSU.EDU (Roberto G Sung) writes:

> >Hi, everyone, i'm new to this group, although sometimes i lurk around
> >when my schedule allows. just a quick question: what exactly means
> >"serendipity". i've seen this word a few times lately. is it part of
> >the neology? thanks

> "Serendipity" refers to happy outcomes that occur by accident.
> Webster's New International Dictionary (3rd edition, 1961) says " an
> assumed gift for finding valuable or agreeable things not sought for".
> The term comes from a Persian tale "The Three Princes of Serendip"
> which happy outcomes keep happening by accident. It's NOT a neologism.

> 	Chris

> -- 
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> Biochemistry Dept., Box 440             I'm not really a physical biochemist
> UVa Health Sciences Ctr,                     but I play one in the lab... 
> Charlottesville, Va 22908   (804)924-8210   
Correct, but it's not a Persian tale - it was written by an Englishman
in the 18th century (I _think_ it was Walpole, but I won't swear to
it).  "Serendip" is an old name for Sri Lanka, BTW.
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_____________________________________________________________________
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:48:05 GMT
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Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: mlinda@novell.com's message of 17 Dec 92 17:44:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.174428.5996@novell.com> mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor) writes:

   In article <1992Dec17.154039.14407@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
   >In article <JoeMan.7.724562272@> JoeMan@ (Joe Tooman) writes:
   >>Not to bitch or anything, but it seems to me that the female does not have
   >>any problem finding a guy anytime she feels like she wants a relationship.
   >>As a guy, I find that it is very hard to find a female that seems intrested.
   >although women do seem to be approached on a sometime daily or weekly
   >basis, their problem is weeding through all the offers for a man who
   >meets their standards.

   This is all a joke, right?????

I was hopping... er, hoping that it was a joke.
Unfortunately I don't think I'm sure anymore...

Spidey!!!


--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

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From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Size 8? (Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 06:00:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.203753.9339@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:
>In article <7901@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>>
>>Trygve, I have the greatest confidence that you (and Charlie too, for
>>that matter) could survive this kind of treatment for quite some time.
>>Perhaps a woman could more effectively torture the two of you by
>>*refusing* to sit on your ribcages for a couple of hours?  
>
>Or perhaps by standing on a man's ribcage while wearing spike heels that have
>the plastic heel peice gone, so that the nails are sticking right into the 
>man's flesh.  And then walking up and down his chest a few times.

You know, I'm just not enjoying the direction this is going--surely the
great net.minds out there can come up with ways to torture me that will
be more enjoyable for all concerned.

Trygve   (If need be, I'm willing to negotiate these things in person.) 
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From: GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu ("Broward "Hipshot" Horne")
Subject:      RE: Warning, Will
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From: mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Danger, Will Robinson!
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:57:46 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., Austin, TX

In article <9212100255.AA08139@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com> e@uiboise.idbsu.edu writes:
>>
>>
>
>> I'm a 31 year old Christian who (I have been told) is Beautiful/
>
>      Oh, man.  A Connecticut Christian in Utah.

>Shouldn't that be "A Conneticut Christian in Texas?".
>'Tis a clever word play though.  %>

        How typical.  My throughput is down these days.
        A bad query.  No, an incomplete query.

        Ah, well.  It's okay.  Novell's domain controllers, etc, etc
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From: cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington)
Subject: Re: Giving and Receiving
Summary: Serendipity= happy accident
Organization: University of Virginia
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:51:22 GMT

In article <c*51Hx=7fb@atlantis.psu.edu> R9S@ECL.PSU.EDU (Roberto G Sung) writes:

>Hi, everyone, i'm new to this group, although sometimes i lurk around
>when my schedule allows. just a quick question: what exactly means
>"serendipity". i've seen this word a few times lately. is it part of
>the neology? thanks

"Serendipity" refers to happy outcomes that occur by accident.
Webster's New International Dictionary (3rd edition, 1961) says " an
assumed gift for finding valuable or agreeable things not sought for".
The term comes from a Persian tale "The Three Princes of Serendip"
which happy outcomes keep happening by accident. It's NOT a neologism.

	Chris

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UVa Health Sciences Ctr,                     but I play one in the lab... 
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