HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zak@me.utoronto.ca (Gennady Zak)
Subject: Re: Etova slova ili eto slovo?
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:25:23 GMT

ckelly@math.nwu.edu (Christopher Kelly) writes:

>-- 
>This looks like a good place to post. Our Russian textbook says to use the
>genetive case with the negative, e.g., "Ya ni znayu etova slova".  But some
>of my friends who have used other textbooks and Russian speakers don't know
>or can't explain why such a rule would be offered. I have no particularly
>strong idea myself since I am just barely finished with my first quarter of
>Russian study. But which is preferrable in most situations?  

>	Ya ni znayu etot gorod.   or   Ya ni znayu etova goroda.    ?
>That is         Accusative    or               Genegive     case? 

I am a Russian speaker (born & lived there until 16), and even to
me the difference is almost non-existent.  But if one wants to really
"split hairs" here, to me it feels like the first phrase would
be preferrable when you're talking about the contents of the object:
ie, in a sense:"I don't know this city very well, its streets, attractions
etc."  While the second phrase sounds to me more like:
"I don't know this city, never heard about it".

Gene.
Newsgroups: alt.uu.lang.russian.misc
Subject: Re: `|TO TAKON -)TA HI-O3rPYnnA?
From: ilya@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Usvyatsky Ilya)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:24:39 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center.
Originator: ilya@marva.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il


In article <1993Jan8.145931.15760@venus.ic.cmc.ca>, scott@venus.ic.cmc.ca (Scott Stoness) writes:
|> I don't know if you are using a fairly common ASCII transcription of Russian,
|> but with my limited knowledge of Russian, I couldn't figure out what that was,
|> except in the most general of terms.
|>
|> I think that the first thing which must be done is to develop (or adopt) an
|> ASCII transcription for the Cyrillic Alphabet which could be used for all
|> discussions on the group.
|>

	There were a lot of discussions about transliteration of cyrillic in
	soc.culture soviet group.
	Actually, it gave no result. There are several ways to write in Russian
	using computer: (a) Use KOI-7/KOI-8 old soviet standard (very poor way)
			(b) Use "alternative" coding from IBM PC BETA package
				(still poor way)
			(c) Use transliteration convension.

	The most widely used transliteration scheme is like this:

		a, b, w (v), g, d, e (je), jo, zh, z, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, r,
		s, t, u, f, h, c, ch, sh, sch, `, y, ', e, ju, ja.

	--I.


|> A few things I would like to see:  As few two-letter transcriptions as
|> possible, a one-to-one mapping for the Cyrillic alphabet to the transcription,
|> and the existance of both cases of letters in the transcribed form as well.
|>
|> Scott C Stoness
|> ScS
Newsgroups: alt.uu.lang.russian.misc
From: scott@venus.ic.cmc.ca (Scott Stoness)
Subject: Re: `|TO TAKON -)TA HI-O3rPYnnA?
Organization: Canadian Microelectronics Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:59:31 GMT

I don't know if you are using a fairly common ASCII transcription of Russian,
but with my limited knowledge of Russian, I couldn't figure out what that was,
except in the most general of terms.

I think that the first thing which must be done is to develop (or adopt) an
ASCII transcription for the Cyrillic Alphabet which could be used for all 
discussions on the group.

A few things I would like to see:  As few two-letter transcriptions as 
possible, a one-to-one mapping for the Cyrillic alphabet to the transcription,
and the existance of both cases of letters in the transcribed form as well.

Scott C Stoness
ScS 
Newsgroups: alt.uu.lang.russian.misc
From: scott@venus.ic.cmc.ca (Scott Stoness)
Subject: Re: `|TO TAKON -)TA HI-O3rPYnnA?
Organization: Canadian Microelectronics Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:34:23 GMT

I'd be happy to, but what are they?

Scott C Stoness
ScS 
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: valentm@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (marco valentini)
Subject: Linux with Paradise don't work
Keywords: paradise
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:03:14 GMT
Summary: I have a paradise vga new model and in text resolution linux don't work

I have a computer mod. DELL D50 (with a DX250) with a paradise video board 
integrated in the motherboard.While installing linux I'm prompted for my SVGA
text mode (the possibility are 135x25 135x43) if I push return and I select one
of this the screen show only pixel in casual point like star while if I push 
space the installation go fine.but when boot from floppy the resultat is the 
same.
Another questions:I want a partiton of 120Mb is this possible?If I use the 
extended fs it works well?

	Thanks to anyone can resolve my problem.

		Marco Valentini
		Dip.Scienze dell'informazione
		Univ. di Milano

		Mail at valentm@pippo.sm.dsi.unimi.it
From: rwahbe@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Robert Wahbe)
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Wanted: Free UNIX for PS2/70
Date: 9 Jan 1993 23:19:36 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley, University of California Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: madrone.cs.berkeley.edu

Linux does not support the MCA bus (i.e. PS2 machines).
Does anyone know of a good, free PC UNIX that does?
I have sent mail to the 386BSD people but I have not 
gotten a reply yet.  Are there any other free PC UNIX systems
out there?

Thanks,
Robert
From: balbert@satie.psu.edu (Kyr Velusian)
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: What is Linux?
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:59:00 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <BCR.93Jan9224409@hfl3sn02.cern.ch> bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers) writes:


>Has anyone tried this on local bus systems yet?  I have a machine comming from Gateway 
>2000 and I'm wondering if Linux will work without a bit of additional programming.

Yes, many people use Linux with local buses...  it works for about 95% of
them...  this isnt such a bad ratio for a new operating system...  :)

-- 
Brett Albertson             Next time someone passes you an exploding ham,
balbert@vivaldi.psu.edu     I'll say, "Pass the mustard!!"
bda104@psuvm.psu.edu                 ~~Jack Deth   _Trancers II_
From: cdrice@eos.ncsu.edu (CHARLES DEE RICE)
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Configuration help
Keywords: configuration help
Date: 10 Jan 93 02:37:57 GMT
Reply-To: cdrice@eos.ncsu.edu (CHARLES DEE RICE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: cdrice@c00082-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu



I am new to Linux, and would like some help configuring Linux to run on 
my system.  I have a Swan 486DX2-50, direct bus SVGA video, 3.5HD and 
5.25HD floppies, 120MB HD (MSDOS), 120MB HD (soon to be Linux, I hope), 
and an internal tape drive.

I'd like to discuss the proper installation of Linux for this system, and
I'd like as much 'hand-holding' as one might be willing to provide.  I have
read over the installation instructions that I've been able to find at 
distribution sites, but have been unable to find out how to install Linux
to an additional HD as I have here.  (The installation info I've seen always
assumes you're putting Linux onto a single HD with multiple partitions).

I would appreciate all the help I can get.  :)

-- 

+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| cdrice@eos.ncsu.edu      |"I think people tend to forget that trees are    |
| Charles Dee Rice         | living creatures.  They're sort of like dogs.   |
| North Carolina State     | Huge, quiet, motionless dogs, with bark instead |
|   University, Raleigh NC | of fur..."               --- Jack Handey        |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: balbert@mahler.psu.edu (Kyr Velusian)
Subject: Re: Setup Information.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 23:25:30 GMT

In article <93010.142626MAL112@psuvm.psu.edu> MAL112@psuvm.psu.edu (Mitch Lewars) writes:
>I have the following hardware setup:
>386 dx w/ 4 megs of Ram
>Intel Above Classic Bus Board 1/2 meg
>1.44m, 1.2m Floppy drives
>90 meg, 60 meg hard drives (with boot on the 90 meg) RLL Encoded
>Trident 8900C video w/ 1 meg
>Vga Monitor
>Panasonic P1124 -24pin printer
>
>Ok, my questions are:
>If I wish to run off a MsDos/Linux Platform
>which OS should have the first partition on
>my boot hard disk?

well, first of all, Linux does not support use of RLL hard drives...
so, you can not have Linux on any of yer RLL drives.  The order doesnt
matter, however, if you have a non-RLL drive.

>Is LILO the best way to enable booting from
>different partitions?

yes, its the specific LInux LOader...  its works flawlessly.

>What partition sizes are recommended? (I'd like 15 megs for Dos)

doesnt matter...  except for the fact that normal linux File Systems
cant use a partition greater than 64 MEGs...

>Can Linux/Unix bases make use of the memory on the Above board?
>Does Linux make use of caches on the Hd/Fd Controller?
>(or are they just ignored?)

dont know...  =)


-- 
Brett Albertson             Next time someone passes you an exploding ham,
balbert@vivaldi.psu.edu     I'll say, "Pass the mustard!!"
bda104@psuvm.psu.edu                 ~~Jack Deth   _Trancers II_

Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: saud@seas.gwu.edu (Temporary account (slc 11/19/92))
Subject: Installing Linux on a PC
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:06:55 GMT



     I hope this is the right place to ask for help on Installing Linux 
    ********************************************************************

Hi 
I am helping friend over the weekend to install the Linux.


I am logining o the mit (ftp) site from my school Unix system. Then using
procomm to down load those files to the PC.

Do I have to down load every thing or just the SLS subdirectory?


Any help please.

Thanks

Wanes

Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: ***** README: How to find answers to your linux questions. *****
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:10:11 GMT

A repost from comp.os.linux:

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:16:42 GMT
From: janl@ifi.uio.no (Nicolai Langfeldt)
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: janl@ifi.uio.no
Symary: RTFM, RTFFAQ, posted automatically twice a week

Much of the volume on comp.os.linux used by questions that have been
answered tens, hundreds or even thousands of times.

Questions like:
  - I have a ACME vga card. Will it work with X11?
  - I have a 100Mb hd and want it all in one partition, but mkfs don't
    like block counts >65535, what do I do? (and you'll also be told why
    this isn't a good idea)
  - Can I have both os/2 dos and linux on my 'puter?
  - Which virtual toppings does Linus like on his virtual pizza?
  - I want to install Linux on my machine. Where do I start?
  - du seem to report double sizes on files, what's up?
  - I just upgraded my kernel, why don't ps work anymore?

Answers on that and a lot more can be found in these documents:

  INFO-SHEET (what is linux, features, hardware, getting linux)
  meta-faq   (linux faq, linux newsgroups, ftp, bbs'es, about which
	      files to get when installing linux, mailing lists,
	      + quite a lot of other info and pointers)
  faq_<Date> The complete linux faq. Contains answers on: Linux, linux
	     instalation, common problems, linux and dos, more problems,
	     hints, features, gcc, scsi, X11, networking, and emacs.

Both the INFO-SHEET and meta-faq are posted regularly on comp.os.linux
(recently on comp.os.linux.announce); you should be able to find it if
you search backwards thru comp.os.linux for "INFO-SHEET" or "META-FAQ"
in the subject line.

For some this might work:
  cd /usr/spool/news/comp/os/linux    # or /var/spool/news/comp/os/linux
  grep "Subject: META-FAQ" *
  grep "Subject: Linux INFO-SHEET" *


The faq is _large_ but very well organized, and face it: you have to
read _some_ docs to keep your system running smoothly, and the faq is
a minimum.

The problem is that the people who know the answers grow tired of
answering the same questions time after time and stop answering. This
is not what anyone wants, so please RTFM before asking. The manuals
might be hard to understand, but please make a effort.

If people could start doing this life on comp.os.linux would become
better and maybe we could get rid of all the split posts too :)

Nicolai
--
Nicolai Langfeldt, "Bugs made while you wait"
Internet: janl@ifi.uio.no
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: umpfaif0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mike Pfaiffer)
Subject: Dumb terminals
Summary: What do I do to get them to work.
Keywords: How, Function, Comm ports, Hardware
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:35:34 GMT

	My brother and I bought some dumb terminals yesterday. I am hoping to
be able to hook them up to my linux machine (comtex 386, 2 comm ports). Since
neither of us are experts (yet), I would like to know if it is possible, and
if so, how to do it. The hardware works. We can connect them to the machine
using a term program under DOS. Is that what we would have to do here?

	Thanks in advance...

				Later
				Mike





-- 
                                          |
        Mike Pfaiffer B.A.                | Nothing is as dangerous as an idea
        (and now B.Sc.)                   | that has been suppressed.
U of M: umpfaif0@ccu.umanitoba.ca         | Author unknown.
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers)
Subject: Re: What is Linux?
Organization: CERN, European Research Center for High Energy Physics
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:44:09 GMT

>>>>> On 8 Jan 93 16:54:03 GMT, marmillod@elpp1.epfl.ch (Philippe Marmillod EPFL - CRPP 1015 Lausanne CH) said:
	Philippe> LINUX INFORMATION SHEET
	Philippe> by Lars Wirzenius (lars.wirzenius@helsinki.fi) and
	Philippe> Matt Welsh (mdw@tc.cornell.edu).
	Philippe> Earlier versions done by other people.

	Philippe>     Supported hardware
	Philippe>         Note: This section is still sketchy.  Feedback appreciated.

	Philippe>         Architecture: ISA or EISA bus (you still need an ISA-bus hard
	Philippe>         disk controller, though).  MCA (aka PS/2) does not work.
	Philippe>         Local bus should work.
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Has anyone tried this on local bus systems yet?  I have a machine comming from Gateway 
2000 and I'm wondering if Linux will work without a bit of additional programming.

                                         Bill




--
"Yeti!  Saw them in the London Underground twenty years ago.  Ghosts!
A headless woman used to walk through my bedroom at midnight.  Mermaids?
Grandpa was rescued from the Marie Celeste by one.  Vampires?  I always
wondered where my dad went to at night.  Telepathy?  Right now you're
thinking that I'm talking crap.  So what can you tell me that I won't
believe in?" - Andrew Hunt, "CAT'S CRADLE: WITCH MARK"
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 14:26:26 EST
From: Mitch Lewars <MAL112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Setup Information.

I have the following hardware setup:
386 dx w/ 4 megs of Ram
Intel Above Classic Bus Board 1/2 meg
1.44m, 1.2m Floppy drives
90 meg, 60 meg hard drives (with boot on the 90 meg) RLL Encoded
Trident 8900C video w/ 1 meg
Vga Monitor
Panasonic P1124 -24pin printer

Ok, my questions are:
If I wish to run off a MsDos/Linux Platform
which OS should have the first partition on
my boot hard disk?
Is LILO the best way to enable booting from
different partitions?
What partition sizes are recommended? (I'd like 15 megs for Dos)
Can Linux/Unix bases make use of the memory on the Above board?
Does Linux make use of caches on the Hd/Fd Controller?
(or are they just ignored?)

If possible please reply in E-mail.
      mal112@psuvm.psu.edu
From: tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar)
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: What is Linux?
Date: 10 Jan 93 20:45:16 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA

local bus (et4000 based for me) works fine .. completely transparent to 
the system
From: frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner)
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: ATI and X under Linux
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:12:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.1649
Distribution: world
Organization: York University, Dept. of Computer Science


Are ATI (ATI VGA WONDER+) supported by X or Xfree86 vr 2.0 yet? No external stuff.

-- 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 ---  ---    Frank Pikelner                                          /~\
 \    \  \   Technical Assistant, Department of Computer Science    <v.v>
  \-   \--   York University (Toronto, Canada)                      ,\^/;
   \    \    Internet: frank@cs.yorku.ca                            _{!}_
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: hdoshi@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Hiren Doshi)
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Problems getting X running
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:31:50 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Hello everybody! I installed SLS series and am trying to bring up X
under mono mode. As suggested in the readme file I copied Xconfig.mono
file to Xconfig file and X386mono to X386. The document says that this
is enough to start X under the mono mode by typing the command startx.
However, when I do try to bring X up, I got a message "no configured 
drivers found". I know it's in my Xconfig file, but I don't know what
change is to be made. Any pointers in this regard will be very helpful.
Thanks in advance...


Hiren Doshi

hdoshi@129.32.1.21 (hdoshi@picasso.ocis.temple.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: umpfaif0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mike Pfaiffer)
Subject: Re: Dumb terminals
Keywords: How, Function, Comm ports, Hardware
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:51:35 GMT

In <C0K1BB.yt@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umpfaif0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mike Pfaiffer) writes:

>	My brother and I bought some dumb terminals yesterday. I am hoping to
>be able to hook them up to my linux machine (comtex 386, 2 comm ports).

	Thanks to everybody who responded. The solutions presented worked. I
understand from one person that the question is part of a newer FAQ (last one
I read was three months ago). The solution works. Now to see if I can find
some freeware termcaps files and figure out how they work. 8-)

				Later
				Mike





-- 
                                          |
        Mike Pfaiffer B.A.                | Nothing is as dangerous as an idea
        (and now B.Sc.)                   | that has been suppressed.
U of M: umpfaif0@ccu.umanitoba.ca         | Author unknown.
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: ken@halcyon.com (Ken Pizzini)
Subject: Re: More on dumb terminals
Keywords: Response given
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:40:14 GMT

In article <C0no8C.4ou@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umpfaif0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mike Pfaiffer) writes:
[discussion about editing /etc/inittab and wiring terminals]
>	After all this you just reboot your computer and hope for the best 8-)

You don't need to reboot after changing the inittab, just
	kill -HUP 1
and init (process 1) will re-read the /etc/inittab file.
(Note that you must be super-user (usually root) to do this.)

		--Ken Pizzini
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: jmk@kksys.com (Jim Kaufman)
Subject: Re: What is Linux?
Organization: K and K Systems
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:06:28 GMT

In article <qf4wH2vf?b@atlantis.psu.edu> balbert@satie.psu.edu (Kyr Velusian) writes:
>In article <BCR.93Jan9224409@hfl3sn02.cern.ch> bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers) writes:
>
>
>>Has anyone tried this on local bus systems yet?  I have a machine comming from Gateway 
>>2000 and I'm wondering if Linux will work without a bit of additional programming.
>
>Yes, many people use Linux with local buses...  it works for about 95% of
>them...  this isnt such a bad ratio for a new operating system...  :)
>
I am using a Gateway 486-33 with local bus video and Linux works fine.

JMK

-- 
James M. Kaufman, Digital Biometrics, Inc. "Electronic Fingerprinting Systems"
       Better living through electronics jmk@kksys.mn.org
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: oneel@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov (oneel)
Subject: Re: Setup Information.
Organization: STX/GSFC Nasa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:05:26 GMT

In article <&-4wHrp9-b@atlantis.psu.edu> balbert@mahler.psu.edu (Kyr Velusian) writes:
   In article <93010.142626MAL112@psuvm.psu.edu> MAL112@psuvm.psu.edu (Mitch Lewars) writes:
   >I have the following hardware setup:
   >386 dx w/ 4 megs of Ram
   >Intel Above Classic Bus Board 1/2 meg
   >1.44m, 1.2m Floppy drives
   >90 meg, 60 meg hard drives (with boot on the 90 meg) RLL Encoded
   >Trident 8900C video w/ 1 meg
   >Vga Monitor
   >Panasonic P1124 -24pin printer
   >
   >Ok, my questions are:
   >If I wish to run off a MsDos/Linux Platform
   >which OS should have the first partition on
   >my boot hard disk?

   well, first of all, Linux does not support use of RLL hard drives...
   so, you can not have Linux on any of yer RLL drives.  The order doesnt
   matter, however, if you have a non-RLL drive.

Linux works fine with RLL drives.  What it doesn't work too well with
is a RLL controller with an onboard BIOS.  Even that isn't 100% true
since someone has been working on a driver to fix that.  The quick way
to tell whether or not Linux will work with your RLL drives is to look
in your motherboard BIOS setup utility.  If your drives are listed as
"not installed" then linux won't work without modification.  If on the
other hand your drives show a drive type number than linux works fine.
My setup is a AMI BIOS, ST22R controller, and 2 ST238R drives.  I have
the motherboard setup so that both drives are type 47.  Linux works
fine.

Have fun with it!

bruce

--
Bruce O'Neel              oneel@heasfs.gsfc.nasa.gov
NASA/GSFC/STX/Code 664


Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: peba@snakemail.hut.fi (Petri Aukia)
Subject: X performance with different video cards
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: alt
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:51:02 GMT


Probably a FAQ, but here goes:

Where could I get info on X performacs with Linux and different Video Cards.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
peba@vipunen.hut.fi   I  The data in this letter is subject to the disclaimer
Petri Aukia           I  in Letter ZS90-0112,  which is available from IBM on
Helsinki U of Tech    I  request.
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
From: stp@controls.ccd.harris.com (Stephen T. Pierce)
Subject: What is Linux?
Originator: stp@rs2
Reply-To: steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us
Organization: Space Coast Naturists
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:54:59 GMT


Could someone give a good review for those of us rather unfamiliar with Linux?
It would help to know what users think, about limitations, etc.

Thanks,
   Steve
-- 
INTERNET: stp@ccd.harris.com or steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us or stpierce@delphi.com
DELPHI: STPIERCE			Ask me about Space Coast Naturists!
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions