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From: rand@lucy.merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: More fun with Autogen
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:08:44 GMT
Reply-To: rand@lucy.merrimack.edu ()
Organization: "Silicon Surfers, Inc."

, 11 09:08:44 19929209:08:44 1992EST GMTLines: 16


Isn't it nice that Autogen uses SYSMAN now?

It's real nice when you have a sysman init file that does a
SET ENV/CLUSTER.

It's real fun booting a cluster when everyone has the same name and
address :-)

Cheers,

--
Rand P. Hall, System Janitor, Merrimack College, North Andover, Massachusetts
Internet: rand@merrimack.edu, rand@lucy.merrimack.edu
\  /\  /\  /\  /\____________________________________________________________  
 \/  \/  \/  \/     Abortion stops a beating heart
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ONASCH@irav17.ira.uka.de (Bernd Onasch)
Subject: Re: anyone patched SWiM for VMS 5.5?
Organization: University of Karlsruhe (FRG)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:41:58 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
X-Testmessage: %SYS-F-HLT, system halted.

In <1992Sep8.121109.24696@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de> ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de writes:

# In <4156251@zl2tnm.gen.nz> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz writes:
# 
[...]
# Our system manager heard that DEC told him "DON'T DO IT!" and no one in the
# world can change his mind now (besides DEC-support Munich itself).

Well - That's a problem of the system manager...

[...]
# Back to my question: does anyone have a patch for SWiM to run with the
# FTAs?

Other question: HOW MANY different TW/PYdrivers exist?
  I have source of one AND have binaries of VMS 5.something twdrivers that are
  definitely not the same...

One of those drivers used same resources (memory areas? transfer vectors? -
sorry, i'm no driver specialist) as the "new" FTDRIVER, so my system started
it's "debugger in white on black" to show me that i was wrong ;-)
The other twdriver works pretty well and i cannot see any problems with it.

Slightly confused, Bernd Onasch

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|   PSI%45050365300::ONASCH  `_____\---'   / There shall be no peace...as long|
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From: rbn@ralph.rtpnc.epa.gov (Bob Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Problems with DISM32
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:17:08 GMT
Organization: UNISYS/Environmental Protection Agency

One way that I've found to deal with the issue of displaying the 
current directory name is this:

I use a version of SD that looks for SDENTRY.  I define/job SDENTRY
to point to a command procedure that defines logical names to 
pass some stuff to another procedure called DECTERM_TITLE_BAR.COM

This causes a string that looks like this to be put in the title
bar of the window:

 NODENAME(cpu model), Prc:<processname>, DEFAULT_DISK:<default directory>

If anyone would like a copy of my SDENTRY procedure or needs a copy of
the DECTERM_TITLE_BAR.COM procedure let me know and I can send it.     

The way I dealt with the prompt string limitation on a character cell 
terminal was to crunch the directory name down by dropping stuff out
of the middle of it.

--
Bob Boyd                 
rbn@ralph.rtpnc.epa.gov 
Unisys/EPA
From: DAN@OJC.Colorado.EDU (Kornphuzed Kid!!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: ZIP zipped for me.
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:14:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In a message received on 14 Sep 1992, 13:50
Bob Sloane <SLOANE@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote to dan@OJC.Colorado.EDU

>>OBI WAN=> zip -Vw9jc *.*;* -x *.bck*
>
>You need to put the name of the ZIP file in there. Also, VMS converts
>all the command line switches to lower case unless they are quoted.
>Try:
>
>$ ZIP "-Vw9jc" zipfile *.*;* -x *.bck*

Thanks to Bob and his sharp eyes, since I'm blind in one eye and can't see out
of the other, he caught what I was missing.  I needed to tell ZIP where to put
the files.  I'm sorry to bother everyone with such a trivial little thing. 
Once again, thanks Bob, and to all who sent replies which I haven't received
yet. :-)


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    \ Otero Junior College               | change, the courage to change /
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       \ Internet:  Dan@OJC.Colorado.edu | wisdom to distinguish one  /
         \ Bitnet: < Zip, Zero, Zilch >  | from the other.          /
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: koontz@iasdv1.iasd.honeywell.com (Sean C. Koontz)
Subject: Setting default device and directory...
Reply-To: koontz@iasdv1.iasd.honeywell.com
Organization: Honeywell,Phoenix,AZ
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:20:55 GMT

Hello,

I am trying to find a VMS system service (or some other means) to set both
the default device and directory programmatically.  I am aware of the 
SYS$SETDDIR service, but this only operates on the default directory setting.
I am looking for one call to do both (device and directory) as opposed to 
having to do a redefinition of SYS$DISK using $SET_LOGICAL in conjunction with
the $SETDDIR.  Does anyone know of an existing routine to do this?

Thanks in advance,

Sean Koontz
"koontz@iasdv1.iasd.honeywell.com"                          
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: Maximum number of parameters in a link command
Keywords: link
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:41:49 GMT


In article <1992Sep15.104700.25251@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk>,
a006700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Tang Sammy) observes that DCL has a limit of
eight items in a comma list parameter and asks:
|>
|>It seems that DCL has a preset limit on the number of parameters in
|>a DCL command. If it's true, can I adjust it to fit my need?

The limit is hard-coded in DCL and cannot be changed without patching or
rebuilding the command interpreter.

|>Anybody has any ideas about this and solutions to avoid the error ?

This is what Linker options files are for.  You can put the list of .OBJ
files in an options file.  For example, where you want to say:

	$ LINK A.OBJ,B.OBJ,C.OBJ,D.OBJ,E.OBJ,F.OBJ,G.OBJ,H.OBJ,I.OBJ

(9 items), you can say:

	$ LINK FILES.OPT/OPT

where FILES.OPT contains:

A.OBJ
B.OBJ
..
I.OBJ

--PSW

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: kaz@bms.com
Subject: background for DECwindows pause screen
Reply-To: kaz@bms.com
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:28:45 GMT

I know how to change the DECwindows login background - does anyone
know if it's possible to change the background of the 'pause session'
screen?  That plain white background is kind of boring!

Joe Kazimierczyk
kaz@bms.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: music@erich.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH)
Subject: Re: VAX Operations Manual info
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: UULite  
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 15:50:00 GMT

In article <FE1F387C433FC10E2A@sb.hhs.dk>, ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj) writes...
> 
>Why not post a plain ascii version of the text ?
> 
>The procedure described above is a little to heavy, if you only want
>to read the text to see, if it is relevant at your site.
> 
>Do other feel the same way ?
> 
>                                                          Arne
> 
>Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
>Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
>Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK
> 
> 
   I agree with Arne.  I imagine that others DO feel this way, too, since
 I have never heard of UULite (etc.) and I don't know the ftp address
 of the source suggested.  I suppose I could search through listings
 to find it, but why bother if we can get the source ascii posted
 without control characters?   However, if there are little drawings
 in the WORD original, then we are in a little trouble if we expect
 to get it in plain ascii.

 Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        |  Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca
 TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility)    |  Voice:  604-222-1047 loc 278/419
 4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS            |  FAX:    604-222-1074
 University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA   V6T 2A3

 These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.
 They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.
From: FORT@RAMPOD-WR.AF.MIL ("TOM FORT")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Digital News and Review's irresponsible attitude
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:11:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

HEY GUYS .....

I MAY BE SPEAKING FOR MYSELF HERE, BUT, LET'S KEEP THE VULGARITY DOWN ON AN
OPEN NET.  IF I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE SIZE OF PEOPLE'S BODY PARTS, I'D GO RENT
A VIDEO!  HOW 'BOUT A LITTLE PROFESSIONALISM!

FORT@RAMPOD-WR.AF.MIL 


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: hoffman@xdelta.enet.dec.com (Stephen Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Sysman and dual passwords.
Reply-To: hoffman@xdelta.enet.dec.com (Stephen Hoffman)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua, NH
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:23:31 GMT


In article <3SEP199210165518@andre>, michael@major.ucnv.edu.au writes:
|>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!spool.mu.edu!uunet!munnari.oz.au!goanna!sheoak!andre!system
|>From: michael@major.ucnv.edu.au

|>Has anyone experienced a problem with sysman when using an account with
|>a dual password. We are having problems since installing a new system disk.
|>(Yes it did work beforehand). Now we get refused remote access to other nodes
|>on the cluster when we do a "SET ENVIRONMENT/CLUSTER" and then try some 
|>commands...

	This use of dual passwords should not work, nor should it have
	worked in the past.  Nor can I explain why you had this working.

	The design of dual passwords is intended to prevent situtations
	where one user can know or can see both passwords -- dual passwords
	are intended for relatively high-security environments -- systems
	where TWO individuals must be present in order to log in under a
	specific username.

	This dual-password design extends to areas like the specification
	of DECnet access control: only one password can be specified, and
	there is no way to include the secondary password.

	If one person knows both of the passwords, the situation is little
	different than using a single password that is the concatenation
	of the password pair.  Use of one (longer) password is prefered
	in this situation.

#   DEC assumes no responsibility for the use or reliability of this opinion.  #
#  Stephen Hoffman | xdelta::hoffman | hoffman@xdelta.enet.dec.com | NR EMT-B  #
#      | DEC | 110 Spit Brook Road ZKO1-3/B52 | Nashua NH | 03062-2698 |       #
From: oberman@ptavv.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VMSMAIL forward problem.
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:28:38 GMT

In article <1182@se.alcbel.be>, mvbr@se.alcbel.be (Marc Verbruggen) writes:
> 
> 
> We have problems with a VMSMAIL "restriction" when forwarding messages
> with a recordsize > 255 to an address that contains a DECnet
> specification (node::user) : THIS DOES NOT WORK. It only works when you forward
> to a user on the same system or cluster (node = ""), or node = local_system.
> Is this really a restriction and why ?

Yes, this is a restriction in VMSMAIL. IT only applies to mail sent via DECnet
and is a limitation imposed by the MAIL-11 protocol. DEC has said that this is
a limitation that will NOT be changed. (Mail-11 is a "mature" protocol.)

Some mail packages (e.g. PMDF) have the ability to break long records at 255
characters, but this can cause other problems.

R. Kevin Oberman			Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Internet: koberman@llnl.gov		(510) 422-6955

Disclaimer: Don't take this too seriously. I just like to improve my typing
and probably don't really know anything useful about anything.
From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Digital News and Review's irresponsible attitude
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:56:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

Although the .9 base of MVUP verses VUP is annoying the difference in relative instruction speeds might make such a measure ment useful.

Frankly though, today, it is no longer interesting.
For within VAX line comparisons I am happy using Digital VUP ratings on the 
machines where thier performance group has actually measured them as they
at least seem honest inpersonal converstions.

For any other comparison the triad of composit SPECmarks and the full 
set of points are interesting.
From: "DUKHEP::ROBERTSON"@FNALD.FNAL.GOV
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: (none)
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:03:23 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


  	I stumbled across the fix_saveset procedure while rummaging for other
  things on our educational software library system.  I ftp'ed two savesets for
  VAX-Mac Pathworks, MSA011.A and MSA011.B.  The first is 270 blocks and the
  second is 13500 blocks.  I had copied fix_saveset.exe to my system, since I
  don't have a C compiler running on our system, and ran it on both savesets.  I
  then used BACKUP/LIST to see if the savesets were useful.  The first appears
  OK while the second does not.  I get error messages about an excessive error
  rate and software header CRC errors.


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: roelofs@pan.arc.nasa.gov (Cave Newt)
Subject: Re: The Scoop on VMS ZIP and UNZIP
Keywords: Info-ZIP compression archiver
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 15:09:16 GMT

SK0001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU (Sal Kabalani) writes:

>The only problem at this point is that the version of PKZIP I used is only an 
>ALPHA test version. It is NOT a production version. You will need to wait 
>until PKWARE releases PKZIP 2.0.

On the contrary, Info-ZIP's Zip and UnZip compile just fine under
MS-DOS and OS/2.  Executables are also available from common ftp
sites (the "Where" file in the VMS ZIP-UNZIP package lists sites).

>I also would like to salute all those
>who worked hard to make portable ZIP such a great product. Thanks guys :)

You're welcome. :-)

>The new ZIP/UNZIP uses a new method of compression called Inflate (and its
>counterpart Deflate). This seems to be the preferred method of compressing text
>files used by ZIP/UNZIP

It is the *only* method supported by Zip 1.9 and later.  Zip 1.1 is 
available for those who still need to use the old methods, but it will 
not be updated any further (even to the level of 1.9, with respect to
VMS attributes, etc.).

>It is important that you do not use the ALPHA version of PKZIP as a production
>version.

To my knowledge, this is a very solid program.  The only bugs to date
involve hardware problems with 486's and memory caches.

>Transferring PKZIPped text files from MS-DOS to VAX, then UNZIPping them on VMS
>will reproduce the file accurately in a Sequential Variable Record Size

Note that this is text (ASCII) files ONLY.  Binary files are created in
fixed-length 512 format, if I recall correctly.

>          From      To     ZIP Flags   MS-DOS      VAX    UNZIP Flags
>         ______   ______   _________   ______     _____   ___________
>         VAX      MS-DOS   -l -k -V    Binary     Fixed   None
                            ^^
Please be aware that there was at least one fairly unpleasant bug
with the -l option in the original 1.9 release.  This was fixed in
the first patch, 1.9p1 (26 August), so check your version.  If you
use UnZip for MS-DOS, you can use its -a flag instead.

Also, the -k switch is probably only useful if you update your VMS
zipfiles under MS-DOS, using PKZIP.  Its only function is to leave
the filenames in uppercase (unnecessary if you are only unzipping).

Greg Roelofs
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phillip M. Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: LinkWorks -- what is it for?
Reply-To: hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: DESY ZEUS Central Data Acquisition
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:27:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.001501.1494@ryn.mro4.dec.com>,
blair@snogum.enet.dec.com (Blair Phillips - Digital) writes:

|>In article <13SEP92.14202138@moleng.ucsc.edu>, wipke@moleng.ucsc.edu writes:
|>>I would appreciate hearing from anybody that has found a productive use
|>>for LinkWorks.  I find the documentation and help on the topic so steeped
|>>in hyperhype that it is incomprehensible.  
|>
|>The way I use LinkWorks is to chain links off cards in the Cardfiler.
|>I create a new card for a topic, record info (e.g. contact names & numbers)
|>on the card, then link the card to BookReader entries, mail messages, and
|>Notes entries. Works well!
|>
|>>I would like a simple bookmark
|>>but find it not in vms bookreader or ultrix bookreader, only on Macintosh
|>>and MS windows. 
|>
|>You could easily use links from Cardfiler cards as bookmarks.
|>You can set up multiple cardfiles if you want.
|>
|>I also use cardfiler for annotating manuals. It's fairly simple-minded, but
|>does the job for my purposes.
|>
|>NB - Cardfiler does *not* automatically save changes if you end your
|>DECwindows
|>session without saving it. I've been caught a couple of times by this.
|>
Something seems to be a bit wonky with the LinkWorks description. It
took me quite a while to work out what it did - all the manuakls seem to
want to introduce 3 billion jargon words rather than actually tell you
anything.

What I have gathered about the product is that you can crate a link
between information in application 1 to information in application 2.

What I have not worked out is w3hether you can do the following:-

I have a calender and a mail application. An event occurs in the
callendar (say birthday), can I get this to start off a mail event???

It seems to me that at the mo you can't do this sort of things, in fact
what is required is the ability to use linkworks objects as parameters
to commands, so we add into the calendar the following command (say) :-

ALARM /AT= /EXECUTE=

We create a messaage in the notebook say :-

"Happy birthday"

We create a linkworks tag, and plug it in


ALARM /AT=&BIRTHDAY /EXECUTE=&MESSAGE

Where & is the linkworks tag whatsit.


This could be used for a whole range of applications :-

	* Automated Birthday greetings.
	* Automatic sending of end of month summary reports to management.
	* By linking the accounting package to the mail system the computer 
	could sense when ecconomic conditions are tough and send out redundancy
	notices to staff as appropriate.


Well just my 2rubber ninghis worth.


Phill Hallam-Baker
From: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Tape drive allocated to non-existent process
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:18:41 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Andy Harrington, nin15b63@merrimack.edu, writes:

>We have a tape drive which is allocated to a non-existent process.  The process
>is not in a wait state,; it doesn't exist.  Our support droids said we've gotta
>re-boot the node.  We'd really rather not.  Anyone know of a program that'll
>deallocate it?  If not, anyone know what bits to flip?

DEC has a program in CSC Patch #245 which fixes the problem.

Also, I _think_ there is a program available from FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET, or 
via FTP from FTP.SPC.EDU in the [.MACRO32...] directory, which performs the
same function.

Both of these programs do NOT require a reboot.  However, use them with caution
as they run in kernel mode and have a chance of rebooting your system for you 
anyway!

-Dan Wing, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU or WING_D@UCOLMCC.BITNET (DGW11)
 Systems Programmer, University Hospital, Denver
From: ELLISWR@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU (Raney Ellis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Heartbeat and VAXen
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:09:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Date sent:  14-SEP-1992 12:06:45 

Good day, all...

Here's the situation.  We have two VAX 6000-4xx clustered.  They are
connected to two Ethernet segments via bridged DELNIs.  Each DELNI is
connected to an Ethernet segment with a H4005, with heartbeat ON.  The
Ethernet controllers on both VAXen are 802.3 compliant. 

H4005-------DELNI---LANbridge100---DELNI------H4005
              |                      |
             VAX                    VAX

Have also tried a Cabletron NB20 bridge in place of the LANbridge 100.

Here's the problem/issue.  Should the heartbeat on the H4005s be enabled?
If it is, we appear to get lots of collisions showing up on the bridge, and
the network is sometimes unreliable, apparently causing dropped sessions
and other problems.  If it is not enabled, physical collisions go away, but
DECnet shows many collision detects in the log.  A well-known networking
consultant says yes, VAX 6000-4xx systems *must* have the heartbeat; but
DEC says not, and the 802.3 "standard" says not. 

Are we missing something?  Can you shed light on the matter?  Thanks.      

Raney Ellis                                             ______
Director of Computing Services                         /     *| Plattsburgh
SUNY College at Plattsburgh                           / ^ ^ ^ |
Plattsburgh, NY   12901                              |   ^ ^  |
(518)564-3013                               _________/        |
                                           |                  |
ELLISWR@SNYPLAVA.BITNET                   /                   |     
elliswr@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu        |_______________     |
    "My employer is not responsible for                  |_   |
        what I say, and vice versa."                       \__| _____
                                                               |_____| 
Remember:  ALWAYS cut the cards!
From: anita@devvax.mincom.oz.au (Anita Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Motif, screen background not saved?
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:26:36 GMT
Organization: Mincom

I have recently converted from Decwindows (old) to Decwindows Motif and
have a coupla questions.

1. My screen background never comes up automatically. To get my choice of
screen background (colours and pattern) from the session manager, I have to
go into the options menu/screen background and change the configuration to
something wrong, apply it, change it back to what I want, then apply it
again. I have `Save Screen Manager'd many times, but my background doesn't
come up automatically.

2. I have also changed my pointer shape and colours. This works EXCEPT when
I go into any sort of menu, when my pink and black hand reverts to a black
arrow.

What am I doing wrong?

Apart from these annoying things, I like most of the motif interface,
particularly being able to customise my workspace button menus.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anita Graham
anita@mincom.oz.au
From: omalley.mike@a1.dv780.dvo.MTS.dec.com ("Mike O'Malley")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: HELP!  UNSUBSCRIBE                                                     1
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:58:01 GMT
Organization: The Internet


    I cannot see to UNSUBSCRIBE from this list.  Long ago I send a 
    request to "INFO-VAX-REQUEST@??.SRI.COM".  It took awhile to get 
    on the list, now I can't get off.  Could somebody PLEASE help...
    My mail address may have some stuff tacked on to the end that I 
    don't know about.  Here is a list of possible addresses:
    
    	Mike.OMalley@aqo.mts.dec.com
    	Mike.OMalley@denver.enet.dec.com
    	Mike.OMalley@dv780.enet.dec.com
    	Mike.OMalley@dvwps.enet.dec.com
    
    Thanks in advance,
    	Mike O'Malley
    	Digital Equipment Corp.
    	Digital Services