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From: ynecelc@s1w3.sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Wow! So many new SF shows!
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:28:49 GMT
Organization: HNSX Supercomputers

Hmm...there seems to be a whole lot of new shows
for us this season. Looks like they're starting
to figure out who's got money to spend.

NBC: Deep Space Nine
CBS: Space Rangers

Regarding the last show, Space Rangers (SR).
How come I haven't heard too many things about it?

There's one alien which appears in the commercial for SR that
looks like a Cardasian. Anyone know whether the show is related
to Star Trek or produced by Paramount?

Oh, one last thing:

Is DSN running on NBC everywhere else?(It is in Montreal.)
Since TNG is on ABC(in MTL), competition between the networks 
will make both shows much more interesting.(IMHO)
-- 
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From: kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai)
Subject: Re: David Warner on "Chain of Command" 
Organization: a2i network
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:02:49 GMT

zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) writes:
>s_perera@iastate.edu (Sunil M Perera) writes:
>> ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:

>>>Some spoilers for Chain of Command I follow...
>>>
>>>So did anyone notices that one of the great villian actors plays Gul 
   Madred,
>>>the Cardassian who will most likely be torturing our dear captain?  Yes
>>>David Warner.  A wonderful actor who has done some fantastic villian 
   parts, much
>>>in the same toungue-in-cheek vein as Alan Rickman.  He was Jack the Ripper
>>>in "Time After Time", and also Councilor Gorkon in ST:VI TUC.  He was also
>>>the human representive on "the planet of galactic peace" in ST:V.  It is
>>>going to be very interesting seeing David Warner and Patrick Stewart "face
>>>off" in Chain of Command II.  I for one am looking foreward to it.
>>>
>YES!  David Warner certainly is a fine actor.  He also played Thomas
>Eckhart in Twin Peaks (tv).  He certainly has a great sinister presence
>about him.  I really hope this new character is a re-occuring one.

David Warner is a wonderful actor.  Immediately after watch COC II, we changed
channels, and there he was, David Warner, playing Cratchett [sic] on A Xmas
Carol.  This version also starred George C. Scott as Scrooge, around '83.
It was eerie to go from an evil, sadistic Cardassian to the father of
Tiny Tim!  More, more, more of David Warner!  ...and didn't Troi look so
excellent this episode?!

 
-- 
Ken Papai <kpapai@rahul.net>
From: jwu@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Le Pont d'Avignon (was: Picards french lines)
Date: 1 Jan 1993 18:50:06 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: cascade.cs.ubc.ca

tobis@skool.ssec.wisc.edu (Michael Tobis) writes:

!In article <C003sB.46J.1@cs.cmu.edu>, clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) writes:
!|> In article <1992Dec28.215903.28391@cs.tulane.edu> maraist@cs.tulane.edu (John Maraist) writes:
!|> 
!|>    Sur le pont d'Avignon       On the bridge at Avignon
!|>    On y danse, on y danse      There we dance, there we dance
!|>    Sur le pont d'Avignon       On the bridge at Avignon
!|>    On y danse tous en rond     There we all dence around.

!As a child in English Montreal, I was definitely taught  
!    Sur le pont d'Avignon   
!    L'on y danse, l'on y danse   
!with the Ls. They may have dropped the Ls as gramatically incorrect
!in teaching the song to non-French speaking kids nowadays, but I
!suspect that the Ls are the traditional form.

Sorry, Michael, but "l'on y danse" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
in French. "On y danse" does, and is the correct form of this song.

(Yes, I am Chinese, and yes, I know French (some)! Wanna make something of it?)

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Joseph Wu    <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>   | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Candidate             |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
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From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
Subject: Re: David Warner on "Chain of Command" 
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:53:40 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

In article <BzJGup.8C3@news.iastate.edu> s_perera@iastate.edu (Sunil M Perera) writes:
>In article <i45ZVB4w164w@kryton.UUCP> ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:
>>A few lines just in case....
>>Some spoilers for Chain of Command I follow...
>>
>>So did anyone notices that one of the great villian actors plays Gul Madred,
>>the Cardassian who will most likely be torturing our dear captain?  Yes
>>David Warner.  A wonderful actor who has done some fantastic villian parts, much
>>in the same toungue-in-cheek vein as Alan Rickman.  He was Jack the Ripper
>>in "Time After Time", and also Councilor Gorkon in ST:VI TUC.  He was also
>>the human representive on "the planet of galactic peace" in ST:V.  It is
>>going to be very interesting seeing David Warner and Patrick Stewart "face
>>off" in Chain of Command II.  I for one am looking foreward to it.
>>
YES!  David Warner certainly is a fine actor.  He also played Thomas
Eckhart in Twin Peaks (tv).  He certainly has a great sinister presence
about him.  I really hope this new character is a re-occuring one.

ferenc
From: sro@media.mit.edu (Shawn O'Donnell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Multiple ST Roles
Date: 22 Dec 92 05:30:19 GMT
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory

Hey, ewing@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Rick Ewing) is right--Majel Barret
has played three species: human nurse what's her name, Betazoid
Lwaxana, and in the Menagerie/original pilot, she played, I think, a
Vulcan (or other pointy-eared species) first officer.  Three.  And a
computer to boot.

(No offence to you pointy-eared readers.  What's the PC term for 
people with pointy ears, anyway?)

--Shawn
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: pjohnso@polaris.unm.edu (Zoe Paddy Johnson CIRT CSOS)
Subject: Re: Who is Ronny Cox?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 18:56:07 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Ronny Cox if from Portales, New Mexico, my adopted and beloved hometown, and
the home of Eastern New Mexico University.
From: morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Shabang's Chains Part I.
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:04:31 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

As the Christmas shoppers hurry for that last minute bargain, and the 
school children rush home to build snow-persons (PC), it is time to once 
again haul out the Shabang-o-meter (Mark 7) and feed it some egg-nog in the 
hopes that it can rate the latest ST:TNG offering, Chain of Command I.

Well, well, well, not all star fleet captains are cute and bald.  What a 
pity.  Anyways since this wasn't really a complete, total cliff-hangy sort 
of thing, it doesn't really seem concrete.  Lets give it a rather bland 6.

Next week: Let me guess, the next episode is Chain of Command II?

Later (and Seasons Greetings to all)

Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan
morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu

I still wanna go home!
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From: pcp2g@karma.astro.Virginia.EDU (Gilligan)
Subject: SPOILERS, DAMMIT, SPOILERS!
Reply-To: pcp2g@karma.astro.Virginia.EDU (Gilligan)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 22:01:33 GMT

If you are going to say ANYTHING AT ALL about any new episode,
****PUT A SPOILER WARNING IN THE SUBJECT LINE****************.

I'm pretty damn tired of reading the first line of a post and getting
something I'd rather see for myself on the new episode.

Please, think folks.

Thanks.

--
* Phil Plait                 pcp2g@virginia.edu 
*
* "To escape from our own island, we must each metaphorically
*  kill our own Gilligan..." 

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From: Heliotis.ROCH803@xerox.com (Jim Heliotis)
Subject: Re: Klingon From ST:VI In CoC (no spoilers
Reply-To: Heliotis.ROCH803@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:56:01 GMT

In article 21811@linus.mitre.org, wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:
> In article <1992Dec20.232518.26204@uumeme.chi.il.us> rwmech@uumeme.chi.il.us (Robert W. Mech) writes:
> >
> >Did anyone else notice that the one of the actors in the COC episode was 
> >actualy the klingon (obviously as another person) that played the Chancelor
> >of the Klingon empire before he got killed. (The one that McCoy tried to 
> >save) It sounded just like him, I dont know the actors name, but can
> >anyone confirm this?
> >
> 
>     I agree with you.  You are talking about the Cardassian interrogator,
>     right?  It must be the same guy who played Chancellor Gorkon in 
>     STVI.

Wasn't he also in STV as the Terran ambassador to the Planet of Galactic Peace,
or whatever they called it?

...and Tron? .. and.....


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From: ssubrama@dante.nmsu.edu (SUBRAMANIAM)
Subject: Re: The Turbo lift - What gives?
Keywords: turbolift, button...
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:53:24 GMT

In article <1hgjnvINNb5@uwm.edu> simon@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (David Joseph Simon) writes:
>Ok guys, I am sitting here watching COC part II and wondering something.
>Since when did they have to press a button to gain access to the turbo lift doors?
>Even in the TOS, all they had to do was just walk right on board.  Now, all of a sudden, they have to press a button to get on the thing.
>What gives?  
>Any insight would be appreciated.  Thanks
>David Simon
>simon@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
>
>
>

The automatic sensor broke.

Siva
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: roy@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Saturday Night Review - "Chain of Command Part II" SPOILERS!
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:36:09 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1992Dec30.110925.552@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:

> Lots o' stuff removed.

Sounds like you liked the episode more than I thought after reading your 
original post.  

Yeah, real cool, high-tech, futuristic torture methods would have been nice.  
Maybe mind probes could have been used, and when Picard was most vulnerable and 
using the French song and thoughts of his childhood and family, the room could 
have transformed via holographic techniques (eg.  like the holodeck) to actually 
look like Picard's thoughts.  Picard, in this state, might not be able to 
distinquish between his soothing thoughts and the holographic simulated reality.  
The Cardasians could have then made the pleasant images not so pleasant.  Maybe 
have Picard's father dye of a heart attack while singing at the Picard family 
table or something equally as devasting happen.  This would have been neat, and 
showed that:  

  1)  The Cardasians are the most ruthless SOB's we have ever seen.

  2)  Even one's dreams and happy thoughts are not a sanctuary from torture
      in the 24th century.

However, as far as STNG shows go, this was entertaining anyway.

Regards,
Tom Rogers
roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
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From: ewing@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Rick Ewing)
Subject: Re: CoC II much better than CoC I (Spoilers!)
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Vanderbilt University Academic Computing Center
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:38:20 GMT

> The torture scenes
> were well done, and Picard (ok, Patrick Stuart) was great.  This guy has
> come a long way since season 1 - It's going to be good to see him in some
> feature films.  Unlike TOS and getting stuck in their roles, Stuart has a
> real future outside of startrek. 

> ==================================================================8--<
> Dave Rotheroe                rotheroe@convex.com              DoD#0045
> CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX 75083-3851, (214) 497-4512
> Death is a reward for being responsible.

I read this and have to laugh long, loud and very hard.  Patrick Stuart
already had a "future" outside of Star Trek: 25 years in the HM Royal
Shakespearean Theatre Company.  Going to television was a step *down* for
this man.  We should be honored by the fact that we have such a fine
accomplished actor anywhere near television, especially in science fiction,
which is notorious for its bad acting (Shatner comes to mind).

On a side note, it was good to see David Warner back, this time in
Cardassian makeup.  His initial confrontation with Stewart made me think
back to the original Star Wars where I remarked "Gee, the universe is full
of British actors!"  Maybe Warner will offer Stewart some Earl Grey tea,
hot!  But judging by the trailers for next week, I doubt it.

--Rick Ewing
  Vanderbilt University
From: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: RE: TROI SMUT????
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:12:00 GMT
Reply-To: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

norbert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy James) writes:

> A very trustworthy friend of mine SWEARS that
> Marina Sirtis (Coun. Troi) made a porn movie...
> Can anyone clear this up?

I don't know if she made a porn movie or not, but I have a GIF of what
appears to be Marina Sirtis topless, but because it's only viewable on
my machine in black & white, it is hard to tell.

chris burgess
chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
                                                                                            
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: L695819@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Lwaxana - Who plays her?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 10:46:35 PST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: myke@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Michael Dautermann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The Battle Bridge
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: 29 Dec 1992 19:42:05 -0500
Organization: We're from the government, ma'am
Distribution: na
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Summary: the battle bridge?  which one?
Keywords: battle, bridge

In article <C00zDE.HBw@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:
>In article <athos-281292155731@kip2-18.apple.com> athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>>Since my ST Tech Manual doesn't have a picture of the battle bridge, I am
>>wondering what episodes it appeared in so I can go buy them.  Any clues?
>>
>Encounter at Farpoint and Arsenal of Freedom are the only ones I can think
>of that might be on tape/laserdisc commercially.

  
It also appeared in Best of Both Worlds Part II....

However, was the bridge that appeared in BOBW a different set than the
Battle Bridge that appeared in those Season One episodes listed by Brad?
They certainly seemed to be different (Encounter at Farpoint's Battle Bridge
was dark and grey, BOBW's was colorful.. with ST:Movie type monitors and
consoles in the rear)

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From: ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Borg : Maybe some insight....
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:19:10 GMT
Organization: HNSX Supercomputers

>	So, why don't they go attack Earth and the Federation now? Maybe analysing
>the situation and preparing the best attack for it. Don't want what happened 
>to happen again I s'pose. Maybe Hugh affected the Borg, maybe not. But I 
>think they should have just used they're idea to destroy the whole bunch. 
>after all, they were at war.
>
>			CtB
>																   |
Hmm...looks like, "RESISTANCE IS _NOT_ FUTILE".
The Federation seems to gotten away scott-clean.
(At least we haven't heard of further attempts at assimilation.)

-- 
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From: mac7@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Chary)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Oh, SHUT UP, Troi II(or Jellico should shoot Deanna)
Date: 21 Dec 1992 19:05:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I was wrong.  Anything the script would give Sirtis to say
that sounded intelligent would be out of character for Troi.
(Go re-read 
the sentence it makes sense I swear.)  She told Will that Jellico was not
certain.  Well, is it inappropriate for him to maintain a brave front?
She seems resent wearing and uniform. Well, to bad, uniforms promote morale
because you can tell who your friends are.  And then there's Riker questioning every other command.
If I were Jellico I would relieve them both of duty, the insubordinate morons.
-- 
"What's wrong with him?" "What do you mean?" "Well, he's standing
in front of a mirror, talking and smirking to himself.  That's
one of the first symptoms of megalomania." - The Doctor
"Ipsa scientia potestas est." - Roger Bacon
From: mcelroy@bu.edu (Carl Mackin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lwaxana - Who plays her?
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:55:05 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Helene Blankespoor (helene@dcs.warwick.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <92353.140742MCGLONE@auvm.american.edu> <MCGLONE@auvm.american.edu> writes:
: >I am sorry if there is a better place to find out this info, but I
: >am fairly new to the net, and I didn't see anyhting in the FAQ lists
: >in here or in rec.arts.startrek.info.
: >
: >Please settle a bet - who plays Lwaxana Troi?
: >
: >A friend claims this is Gene Roddenbury's wife who plays the computer
: >voice now and used to be the nurse on the original series.  I claim
: >it is someone different.  Dinner is riding on this one!
: 
: I have also heard the same thing your friends is claiming, Roddenberry's wife
: played nurse Chapel in TOS, and is the computer voice in TNG. 
: 
: Helene.





Yes, It was Gene Roddenbury's wife, Yes it was #1 in the original pilot,
Yes it was Nurse Chapel, and finally - It is the voice of the computer.
Right on all accounts
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From: tke@shep.att.com (Tom Epstein)
Subject: What about the Children?
Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
Organization: Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:57:29 GMT

Possible Spoilers for Chain of Command, part 1 follow:
(Blank lines  for those who don't have control L.)













......................................................................






It seems to me that whenever the Enterprise steams off into harm's way
her Captain and crew usually forget about the children aboard.  Yes,
I know that the "Should Children be on the Enterprise?" debate is an
old one. This instance seems particularly odd, though. To wit:

Jellico (or is that JELLO, cold as opposed to tea, Earl Grey, hot) is
champing at the bit to take the mighty E into battle, phasers roaring
through the vacuum of space.  The story demonstrates the characters' 
intensity in making preparations, none of which so far has included the 
evacuation of children and other non-essential (i.e: teachers, laywers, 
and especially screenwriters) persons.  (Do you mean to tell me Captain,
that my son was killed, my daughter maimed *and* we passed right by the
Hilton, Cestus III?  I'm just a hairdresser for Pete's sake!!)

How could a crew so keen on war preparations forget that they happen to 
have their children with them?  Where was the touching, "Klingons don't
hold their breath untill they turn violet," speech that Worf should have
had with Alexander before leaving on his dangerous mission? 

Having children in the series will not work untill the writers remember
their supposed existance in cases other than when their existance con-
tributes directly to plot development.  IMHO

Truly,

Tom.  The man who has no .sig.
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From: kogoma@triton.unm.edu (Taki Kogoma)
Subject: Re: do we need rec.arts.startrek.dsn?
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 07:03:22 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <1992Dec26.203022.3674@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu> msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood) writes:
>One last point. My misc group was (STRICTLY) for anything that
>doesn't belong anywhere else. ANYTHING that has to do with any
>of the other shows goes into that group, not in misc. It
>wouldn't be that big (I think)...

And who do you propose to monitor the 40-50 posts per day to insure
this?

-- 
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk  (Known to some as Taki Kogoma)  kogoma@vesta.unm.edu
 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
From: vida@mdavcr.mda.ca (Vida Morkunas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Le Pont d'Avignon (was: Picards french lines)
Date: 2 Jan 93 04:14:42 GMT
Organization: Organized?  You think I'm organized?

Sur le pont d'Avignon
l'on y danse, on y danse
Sur le pont d'Avigon
l'on y danse tout en rond.

>A possible reason for the L's is that the final e in danse is not
>silent (because this is verse) and the next word (on) begins with a
>vowel. While I don't know of any other case where a spurious consonant
>is introduced, remember that one pronounces the final t of "comment"
>in "Comment allez-vous?" but not in "Comment vas-tu?"

The reason why there is a "l" in front of the first "on" is as follows:
there are two "on" sounds following each other, contained in two separate 
words.  Now fellow TNG fans, let's all talk about something else, PLEASE!!!

V