From: ohall@milori.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american,misc.education
Subject: Re: Institutional racism in education
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:07:09 GMT
Distribution: usa,local
Nntp-Posting-User: ohall

In article <1992Dec16.191045.25991@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
> In article <1992Dec15.084754.1@milori.ccit.arizona.edu> ohall@milori.ccit.arizona.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Dec14.153345.20603@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
>>> In article <1992Dec10.124204.1@milori.ccit.arizona.edu> ohall@milori.ccit.arizona.edu writes:
>>>>In article <1992Dec8.231456.7197@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
>>>>> In article <1992Dec4.231441.10829@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas) writes:
>>>>>>In article <1992Dec4.165214.27181@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) write 
> 
>>>>  How many foriegn blacks have come into the
>>>>  U.S. and made Mega bucks?
> 
>>> Well, I don't have a count, but you have to remember - most people who
>>> come from foreign countries and make big bucks seem to be
>>> entertainers.  Most entertainers need to come from English speaking
>>> countries to succeed here, and English speaking in this context mean
>>> relatively accentless, so the Caribbean doesn't count.
> 
>>  Does that include spanish speaking and asians too?
> 
> What?  That they need to know English?  You bet.  How many Spanish
> It includes Spanish speaking.  It doesn't include Orientals, but they
> seem to be able to succeed anywhere.  Look at Malaysia, for an even
> more extreme example than the US.  I can't explain that in a
> politically correct way, but it's a fact.
> 
  That's odd.  When I lived in the bay area there were oriental street signs in
  some areas.  Out here in the southwest there are english and spanish signs
  posted everywhere.  Many legal document are written in both spanish and
  english.  What a great nation this would be if we could have street signs and
  legal documents to accomodate people from all over the world with different
  dialects.

  Orientals seem able to succeed anywhere?  I guess they're special.  You know
  the chosen race.  Like some type of god or something.  Besides you know how
  those Orientals are.  
  "Look at Malaysia"  That is a common problem in America.  The people are
   always looking in everybody elses backyard except thier own.
   We still have that "naked aggression" in the U.S. and gas prices have'nt
   decreased either.   

>>> However, just off hand, I do know that there is a Somali super-model.
>>> She's done some fundraising for aid for Somaila.
> 
>>  I have a black friend.  
>>  I only have one friend. 
> 
> What's your point?  I don't keep a rolodex on my desk with a list of
> successful people in the US crossindexed by country of origin.
> 
  Joan Rivers said, "After the first million, who's counting?"
  Omar Hall say's "I am."
  And it's approximatley 400 years.  Roughly the same amount of time the jews
  spent in Egypt.  Do some computing.  The hell if i'm working overtime with it
  not being documented in some biblical scriptures(i.e. bible).
>>>>  In addition, why is it that so many people from
>>>>  all nations except Africa are in the U.S. today?
> 
>>> You have obviously never taken a cab ride in New York or Boston.
> 
>>  No I haven't, but New York and Boston are not representative of the nation
>>  as a whole either.
> 
> True, but you don't find very many Frenchmen in any American city.
> Same goes for most European nationalities.

  You do find thier first, second, etc. generation offspring though.  How many
  Blacks in America do you meet who can tell you the ancestory of thier
  parents?
  Which reminds me of an event which occured in college.  I was sitting with
  two anglo females as they discussed thier grandparents origins.  One said my 
  grandfather is Danish and my grandmother is Irish.  The other said my
  grandfather is Swedish and my grandmother is British.  Then they looked at
  me.  
  Although I didn't say it, I was thinking my grandfather is from the Ivory
  Coast and my grandmother is from Zimbabwe.  But I guess I will never know.
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