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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:44:48 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Clarifications about the digest support
              7 Jan 1993 12:29:20 CST from "Forum on LISTSERV release 1.7"
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On Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:29:20 CST Marty Hoag <NU021172@NDSUVM1> said:

>   Would the  addition of a "cap"  change the scheduling of  the regular
>digest in any way?  For example, if I have a weekly  list that kicks off
>every Sunday but hits its limit  on Tuesday, would the next digest still
>be scheduled for the next Sunday?

Yes. The tuesday  digest will say "special issue" or  something like that
and  will  be sent  right  away.  The  sunday  digest will  be  scheduled
normally.

  Eric
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:49:27 -0600
From:         Chris Conn <sascmc@UNX.SAS.COM>
Subject:      listserv 1.7f
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Does anybody know when listserv 1.7f will be in production?

(I'm looking forward to the digest feature, thanks again
Eric for implementing it!)

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sascmc@unx.sas.com          ocean but few know that the ocean merges
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:20:13 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Rev 5 of 17E-002D
              8 Jan 1993 12:08:02 CST from "Forum on LISTSERV release 1.7"
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On Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:08:02 CST Jonathon Simon <JSIMON@TUCCMAIL.TRINITY.EDU>
said:

>Is installation  of rev 5 (on  top of rev  4) as simple as  running LFIX
>17e- 002D,  or are  there some  files that must  first be  saved (backup
>copies made) since I have applied rev 4 already.

Since it  is a development fix,  the original backup files  will be kept.
That is, rev 5 will overwrite rev 4, preserving the initial backup.

While we're  talking about LFIX: I  am storing LFIX 1.4  which avoids the
"PROGRAM INTERRUPT IN NON-PASCAL PROGRAM" under CMS 4 and 5. It seems CMS
is not able  to run a relocatable MODULE  under CMS 4 or 5  unless it has
been NUXCLOADed, which 1.3 did not do.

  Eric
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:22:15 HNE
From:         Jean Bedard <ADMIN@VM1.ULAVAL.CA>
Subject:      Re: New feature in 1.7f - automatic digests

>
>Users sign  up for digestified  rather than immediate delivery  with 'SET
>listname  DIGests', which  is an  alternative  to MAIL  and NOMAIL.  This
>command is rejected if digests are not available for the list, however if
>the option is accepted and the list owner subsequently turns digests off,
>it will be treated like NOMAIL.

May I suggest that, instead of rejecting SET listname DIGEST, it behaves
like SET listname MAIL, so that it becomes effective when/if the owner
decides to make it operational? Of course, this would imply a warning
message to the originator of the command.


Jean Bedard, C.T.I., Universite Laval, Quebec, Canada
Resp. VM/CMS, NetNorth, Listserv     Bitnet:   ADMIN AT LAVALVM1
(418) 656-3632                       Internet: admin@vm1.ulaval.ca
From: Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Christophe Wolfhugel)
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Subject: Re: PD Unix Listserv ListServer?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 07:20:45 +0100
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madmac@ils.nwu.edu (Douglas M. MacFarlane):
> We are interested in putting-up a listserver here at ILS.  Is there a
> public-domain or inexpensively licensed listserver for Unix, either SunOS,
> AIX, or Ultrix?

There are two packages I'm aware of.  Both of them are unrelated to
Eric Thomas' LISTSERV.  They furnish commands similar to the VM Listserv
(same syntax, functionnalities might be a little bit different).
Both are free of use.

"listserv version 5" -- available by anonymous FTP at several places,
authors' archive is somewhere at Boston University (try ftp.bu.edu,
ftp.cs.bu.edu or look at archie).

"tulp-3.0.2" aka "The Unix Listserv Program" has mainly been developped
under AIX and runs also fine on SunOS. Available by anonymous ftp to
several sites. Authors' site is grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr, the file is
pub/unix/mail/tulp/tulp-3.0.2.tar.Z or by mail send "get tulp tulp-3.0.2.uue"
to "listserv@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr".

-- 
Christophe Wolfhugel    |    Email: Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp.insa-lyon.fr
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:19:06 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Rev 5 of 17E-002D

Rev 5 fixes  a serious register corruption bug in  a library routine that
had never been used before rev 4  (the program I used to test the routine
when I  wrote it was much  simpler and apparently didn't  mind). It fixes
problems  with the  dates reported  in the  subject field  if the  digest
couldn't be sent at the expected  time, and adds support for "Size(nnnn)"
after the frequency parameter. You can  put it either after or before the
day of week/time of day parameter. Example:

               Digest= Yes,Same,Weekly,Tuesday,Size(2000)

  Eric
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:57:35 -0500
From:         gettes@PRINCETON.EDU
Subject:      LISTSERV digests

From the mind of Chris Dietrich (CHRIS@PUCC):

"LISTSERV Automatic Digestification function. Gee, if it breaks do you
use LSVMAALOX instead of LSVMAIL?"

Maalox is a commercial product to deal with stomach problems.

/mrg
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From: madmac@ils.nwu.edu (Douglas M. MacFarlane)
Subject: PD Unix Listserv ListServer?
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Organization: ILS - Northwestern University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:37:37 GMT

We are interested in putting-up a listserver here at ILS.  Is there a
public-domain or inexpensively licensed listserver for Unix, either SunOS,
AIX, or Ultrix?

Thanks

Douglas M. MacFarlane
madmac@ils.nwu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:01:02 BR
From:         Herciney Da Silva Monaco <NADUFMS1@BRUFMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Support for "digest indexes"

Hello,
              I would like to inform you that the e-mail NADBR1@BRUFMS
was deactivated. And, It was changed by the e-mail NADUFMS1@BRUFMS.
              Therefore, only this last e-mail is receiving mails.

              Mindfully,


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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:19:34 EST
From:         "Lawrence E. Rondot" <RONDOT@IPFWVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Digesting with 1.7f

I like this additional feature. I currently have a list that I make available
in both the real-time subscriptions, and a digest version.  One problem I had
when the digests started was I needed to break up a single digest into several
volumes due to size limations for gateways.

Will it be possible to place a size limit on the digest?  What I would like too
see is the ability to cut a digest once a week into as many volumes required to
keep each volume under a given limit (200k).

Larry Rondot
Rondot@IPFWVM      - or -      Rondot@SMTPLink.IPFW.Indiana.Edu
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:16:11 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      New method for ordering selected index items
Comments: To: LSTOWN-L@INDYCMS.BITNET

Rev 7 of 17E-002D adds a new  method for ordering selected items from the
digest index, which requires LMail or XMAILER 2.10. Here is the blurb you
get with the index  (in addition to what there was before  - as the blurb
says this doesn't work with all mail programs). In Ricemail terms, you do
REPLY TEXT and  delete the lines describing the messages  you don't want,
then hit PF5.

  Eric

Another method which could be more convenient, depending on the mail program
you are using, is to reply to this message while including the original text,
just like when you are replying to a normal message and want to quote what your
correspondent said. Before sending the message, delete the lines corresponding
to the items you are not interested in, and make sure your reply is being sent
to "L201-Search-request@SEARN.SUNET.SE", NOT to "L201@SEARN.SUNET.SE". Note
that this may not work with all mail programs; the first method is more
reliable.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:07:54 PST
From:         Keith Trimmer <TRIMMER@USCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      No subject

// JOB
Database Search DD=Rules
//Rules DD *
search "1.7f" project release date
index
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:47:35 -0600
From:         Chris Conn <sascmc@UNX.SAS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Clarifications about the digest support
Comments: To: LSTSRV-L%RUTVM1.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU
              93 07:44:48 pm

>
> On Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:29:20 CST Marty Hoag <NU021172@NDSUVM1> said:
>
> >   Would the  addition of a "cap"  change the scheduling of  the regular
> >digest in any way?  For example, if I have a weekly  list that kicks off
> >every Sunday but hits its limit  on Tuesday, would the next digest still
> >be scheduled for the next Sunday?
>
> Yes. The tuesday  digest will say "special issue" or  something like that
> and  will  be sent  right  away.  The  sunday  digest will  be  scheduled
> normally.
>
>   Eric
>

Thanks Eric for setting this up! I think it will make life a
lot easier for those of us who have been putting out digests
by hand! Maybe I can take a little time now and actually READ
the mail on my list.

When do you think the new version of listserv will be generally
availiable?

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Chris Conn                  All know that the drop merges into the
sascmc@unx.sas.com          ocean but few know that the ocean merges
Leander, Texas              into the drop.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:08:05 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Digest code available as 17E-002D

Rev 4  of 17E-002D  is being released  with the digest  code. If  you had
previously installed 17E-002D,  make sure to make a copy  of LSVXMAIL and
LSWPLIB before reloading.

  Eric
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:58:15 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      New feature in 1.7f - automatic digests
Comments: To: LSTOWN-L@INDYCMS.BITNET

Release  1.7f  will  introduce   an  automatic  digestification  function
allowing subscribers  who do not have  the time to read  large numbers of
messages as they arrive to subscribe to a digestified version of the list
instead. The list owner decides whether digests are available or not, the
frequency at  which they are issued  and the day  of week or time  of day
when the  digest should  be distributed. The  digests conform  to RFC1153
with an  accepted deviation from  the recommended subject  line (verified
with the RFC author).

Users sign  up for digestified  rather than immediate delivery  with 'SET
listname  DIGests', which  is an  alternative  to MAIL  and NOMAIL.  This
command is rejected if digests are not available for the list, however if
the option is accepted and the list owner subsequently turns digests off,
it will be treated like NOMAIL.

The list owner controls the availability and frequency of digests through
the new "Digest=" list header keyword, which defaults to "Digest= No" for
lists without an archive and "Digest= Yes,Same,Daily" for archived lists.
It  is not  necessary for  the  list to  be  archived to  keep a  digest,
LISTSERV simply attempts to enable digests (by default) for as many lists
as  possible, but  without ending  up having  to store  large amounts  of
digest data  on its A-disk. Because  the default frequency is  daily, the
additional cost in disk  space is very low (but might  still not have fit
on the A-disk once multiplied by 100 lists).

The syntax of the keyword  is "Digest= Yes,where,frequency,when", or then
"Digest= No". The second parameter  is a disk or directory specification,
just as  with the "Notebook="  keyword, or  "Same", which means  that the
digest must be  stored on the same  disk as the list  archives. The third
parameter is  either "Daily"  (the default),  "Weekly" or  "Monthly". The
last  parameter is  optional  and  specifies when  the  digest  is to  be
actually distributed.  For daily  digests, specify  'hh:ss' or  just 'hh'
(with the  understanding that  distribution will not  occur at  the exact
time  you  specified).   For  weekly  digests,  specify   a  weekday  (eg
"Tuesday"). For  monthly digests, you may  specify a number from  1 to 31
corresponding  to  the  day  of  the   month  when  the  digest  will  be
distributed, although  this is  not recommended. The  purpose here  is to
make it possible  for digests to be  issued at mid-month - if  you code a
number larger than 28, you may not get a digest every month.

You can  already start coding "Digest="  keywords for the lists  you own.
The code will be made available shortly for beta-testing.

  Eric
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:37:27 PST
From:         john riehl <RIEHL@USCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: serving off users

Well, I was going to ask you if you did anything.  The problem was that
was not aware of a functional path to the user (twain.notis.com), so
I did not think that you would be able to communicate to him.

and, yes, I did get more junk mail.  I get multiple mail for everything.

Each posting will have an acknowledgement message, plus the commands to
listserv to subscribe and set options will each produce a response of
command accept/reject.

Each of the messages back to him which fail gets sent to postmast(me), riehl
(me), operator, admin, and vincenc.  (we need to know about critical problems
immediately, hence multiple postings).

It gets irritating.  When I was a bit fumed after seeing another error
message, after I was sure this time that I had served him out to prevent
the message, I scanned the disk looking for phillips (to find a entry in a
different table) and ended up seeing the entry from twain, which worked.

There is a definite problem with his mx records in his domain name server,
or the way vm and some unix systems treat them.  The network people that
I talked to claim that it is the way he is configured.  However, Gary
has tried reconfiguring as suggested and it still fails.

I dunno.  Until this is solved, I would prefer that he post using the
Twain address, and subscribe via that.

jr
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From:         "David G. Schutt" <schutt@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Establish mailing list about organs

Hi Bitnet:

There are about 40-50 of us who are keeping in touch via Internet.
We have a common interest in the technical/musical aspects of organs.
Our present correspondents are located worldwide. How can we establish
a LISTSERV mailing list to automate the process?

Please reply to me at schutt@netcom.com
--Best regards,
  Dave Schutt
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From:         john riehl <RIEHL@USCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      oops

oops.  okay, I am embarrassed. that was intended for private response.
Sorry to waste your visual and otherwise bandwidth.

jr
(116 days and counting)
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:38:58 -0500
From:         Liz Hays <lhays@CNRI.RESTON.VA.US>
Subject:      EDI and the Health Care Industry
Comments: To: edi-l@uccvma.ucop.edu

FYI...

There is a short article in the October 1992 issue of EDI World on the
Health Care Industry.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:58:26 +0100
From:         Jan.Hansen@TEKNOLOGI.AGDERFORSKNING.NO
Subject:      Re: EDI in Healthcare
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              04 Jan 93 10:02:39 +0100.
              <"aun.uninet.064:04.00.93.22.58.27"@uninett.no>

There are two messages defined in EDIFACT;

MEDREQ ; Request for Medical report
MEDRPT ; Medical Report

The person to contact for further details is Ellen Brox and her
email adress is  Ellen.Brox@itek.norut.no
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:42:01 GMT
From:         randallsmith@ATTMAIL.COM
Subject:      811 Service Invoice
Comments: To: EDI-L@uccvma.ucop.edu

Mr. Grand,
I'm sure Premenos software does all sorts of good things, but does it dictate
to the user file formats, EDI formats, or both?  Do you have to re-compile,
change code, or go back to Premenos for changes when something changes on
either end?  Is it complete, unlimited EDI capability at one cost, or does the
user constantly have to go back to Premenos for additional capabilities or
changes?  Just curious.

Mr. Laidley,

My clients who have implemented 811's have taken the stance that a "summary"
bill could (and probably should) be available as an alternative to the detail
billing.  The volumes you spoke of are a real problem for all.  I have found
that if the trading partner is given an option, summary or detail, then the
trend seems to be to go with the summary bill after intital testing and
verification of the EDI processes, with the detail billing transaction
available on demand or on infrequent schedules.

One branch of the Canadian goverment was toying with the idea of using both,
the detail transaction to post to the call-accounting systems of the various
departments for internal accounting, and the summary as a 'final' billing
audit to balance against the details that had been posted during the previous
auditing cycle.  I don't know whether this was actually implemented this way,
but it is a workable idea.

By the way, pretty good explanation of the HL stuff, Bill.

Later...

Randall O. Smith
Data Management Strategies, Ltd Suite 240 725 Barclay Circle
Rochester Hills, MI 48307 (313) 853-2444
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:13:00 GMT
From:         "Donal O'Mahony, Comp Sc,
              Trinity College Dublin" <OMAHONY@CS.TCD.IE>
Subject:      EDI & Universities
Comments: To: EDI-L@uccvma.ucop.edu

>What is the role of Universities in the research and development of
>EDI?

We are doing work at Trinity College Dublin on projects
that address issues relating to the evolution towards a Global Open EDI
Environment - These include  X.435 UA Design, X.500 Directory
Integration, Security Services etc.

The area is not well adressed by Universities, and as a result, the number
of papers that appear in technical journals is rather small.



Donal


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