From: agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Why Anthony Rose Wouldn't Answer
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:26:19 GMT
Reply-To: agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <17751@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>In article <c3YW02L42dpu01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose) writes:
>>
>>So, if according to the "Prophet" of the church, "how well we stand with
>>the Lord can be told to us by asking ourselves how close we are to the
>>words of the Prophets", we should look at the words of the Prophet
>>concerning Bruce R. McConkie.  Right?
>>
>
>I would say "words of the prophet" leaves much room for interpretation.
>If the prophet says "pass the bread, please" that is hardly a prophetic
>utterance.  Your interpretation of it is absurd and I could never
>accept it.

What do you mean by 'my interpretation'?  Your prophet said:

     "The Prophet is th only man who speaks for the Lord in
      everything".

     "The living prophet is more important than the standard
      works".

     "The prophet does not have to say "thus saith the Lord" to
      give us scripture".

     "The Prophet and the presidency- the living prophet and
      the First Presidency - follw them and be blessed, reject
      them and suffer."

                         Ezra Taft Benson
                         14 Fundamentals in Following the Prophet
                         Pages 1-16
                         Feb. 26, 1980

             (Taken from the official "PRESS COPY" version released
              by the LDS church).


Also during this speach, your prophet said the following just before
quoting D&C 21:4

     "Sometimes there are those who haggle over words. They might
      say the Prophet gave us counsel but that we are not
      obligated to follow unless he says it is a commandment.
      But the Lord says of the Prophet, "Thou shalt give heed
      unto ALL HIS WORDS AND COMMANDMENTS which he shall give
      unto you."  D&C 21:4


I don't think this is 'my interpretation'.  I know you don't like it,
but your prophet said it.  Interprete it for yourself and take it up
with him.

>>     "Often when a doctrinal question came before the First
>>      Presidency and the Twelve, Elder McConkie was asked to
>>      quote the scripture or to comment on the matter.  He
>>      could quote scripture verbatim and at great length.  He
>>      provided the entire Church with an example of gospel
>>      scholarship.  He could teach the gospel with ease because
>>      he first understood the gospel."
>>
>
>What was this, a blurb for the dust jacket of BRM's book?

Well, you cut off the reference, but it came from the Ensign, June 1985,
page 16 (I believe, that is from memory).  But I know it was from the
Ensign, in the First Presidecy Section, by the Prophet, in which most
Mormons I know refer to as Scripture.

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Tony
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