HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: martinea@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: availability statistics of components
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:27:55 GMT
Organization: Hydro Quebec

I am looking for numbers on availibility of electronic equipement and
components. MTBF, MTTR and the like. Anybody can give me titles of documents ?
thanks.

Alain Martineau
martineau@macmartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca
Hydro Quebec
11th floor, East Tower, Complexe Desjardins
PO Box 10000, Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H5B 1H7
514-289-4484
Xref: sparky comp.realtime:1122 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:4562
From: rlk@VisiCom.COM (Bob Kitzberger)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: List of embedded TCP/IP products?
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:15:37 GMT

Several months ago, one of these two newsgroups had a posting
of available TCP/IP implementations for embedded systems.

Can anyone email me the list?

Thanks,

	.Bob.
----------------
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rlk@visicom.com         10052 Mesa Ridge Court, San Diego CA 92121 USA
                        +1 619 457 2111    FAX +1 619 457 0888
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: herman@nosc.mil (John W. Herman)
Subject: Re: FAQ for comp.readtime?
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:01:17 GMT


--
Look in the group news.answers.  That group runs all the official FAQ's
including the FAQ that tells you how to get FAQ's. 
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: miller@ee.tamu.edu (Kelly M Miller)
Subject: RTXC RT kernel from A.T Barrett Associates
Keywords: rtos kernel os
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:38:37 GMT


Has anyone used RTXC V3.0 from A.T. Barrett  Associates?

I would appreciate any info you could provide. In
particular, I am interested in the PC version.

thanx,

kelly

Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: kip@col.hp.com (Kip Stewart)
Subject: gcc a.out --> IEEE-695
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:21:35 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

This is an announcement for anyone wanting to use gcc with a high
level debugger that uses IEEE-695 (implementation defined by Microtec
Research Incorporated and Hewlett Packard Company).

Cygnus Support is considering the merits of supporting a converter that
converts gcc a.out to IEEE-695.  The question is:  is there sufficient
demand for this converter to warrant Cygnus' interest and effort?  If
you are interested in this tool, consider calling Sun Ming Lieu or
Michael Tiemann at Cygnus (415-322-3811) and discuss your interest and
any value you would place on having them support it.

My interest in this?  HP emulators read IEEE-695 object module format,
as do debug tools from Microtec Research, Applied Micorsystems,
Integrated Systems (the PSOS people), Microtek International and
probably others I don't know about.

Kip Stewart
R&D Project Manager
(719) 590-5846
kip@col.hp.com
From: peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Re: Has anybody ported UCOS to 8051 ?
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 13:23:18 EDT
Organization: Bellatrix Systems Corp., Mississauga, ONT Canada

gratclif@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gregory W Ratcliff) writes:

> I wouldn't worry too much about performance.  After doing the 
> ucos>>>z80 port It seems that uCOS was intended for 8 bitters.
> Some of the routines "fell" together better than the '86 version
> that was published in Embedded Systems.
> 
> greg.

is this port available any where ?


--
Bellatrix Systems Corp. Mississauga, Ontario Canada
peters@beltrix.guild.org or beltrix!peters
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: gratclif@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gregory W Ratcliff)
Subject: Re: Has anybody ported UCOS to 8051 ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:08:30 GMT

I wouldn't worry too much about performance.  After doing the 
ucos>>>z80 port It seems that uCOS was intended for 8 bitters.
Some of the routines "fell" together better than the '86 version
that was published in Embedded Systems.

greg.

-- 
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Columbus, Ohio     ICBM
nz8r@w8cqk 	 on the air
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From: ernie@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Ernie Wakamatsu)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Re: How can I find LynxOS?
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:50:50 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino


Try:
	Lynx Real-Time Systems, Inc.
	16780 Lark Ave.
	Los Gatos, CA  95030
	(408) 354-7770

By the way, what are you looking for?

Ernie Wakamatsu
From: Laurent.vonAllmen@imt.unine.ch
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Help needed in OS evaluation
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:33:58 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

Hello!

Sorry for this beginner request but we are starting a new projet and we have
little time to make a choice. We are evaluating some OS:

	- OS9
	- VRTX
	- VxWorks
	- pSOS

We would like to answer the following questions:

	- Which types of processor are supported?
	- Is a VME driver included?
	- Which mass storage facility?
	- Any remote debugging?
	- Posix conformance?

We would be grateful if either we receive the answers or we are given
references about these OS comparisons/benchmarks.

Please e-mail answers to

X.400 :  C=ch; A=arcom; P=switch; O=unine; OU=imt; S=vonAllmen; G=Laurent
Internet-style :  Laurent.vonAllmen@imt.unine.ch

Any help mostly welcome. Thank you.

Laurent von Allmen
From: dsr@bnr.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Hewlett Packard
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:11:37 GMT
Reply-To: dsr@bnr.co.uk ()
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

A couple of days ago I Asked if there were any Emulators for the
80188 which support C++ and run on Unix booxes.  I received a fax
from someone at HP in Colorado Springs today which I assume was in
response to that query.

If so could the person who did so please email me so that I can set
up a dialogue?

Dave


   Dave Riches
   Email:  David.S.Riches@bnr.co.uk
   Smail:  BNR Europe Ltd, London Road,
           Harlow, Essex. CM17 9NA.  England
   Phone:  +44 (0)279-402496
   Fax:    +44 (0)279-451434
From: greg@regulus.sce.carleton.ca (Greg Franks)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Re: Harmony OS info wanted
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:32:38 GMT
Organization: Systems and Computer Engineering, Carleton University.

In article <1992Sep22.210944.5012@iti.org> john@iti.org (John Sauter) writes:

   From: john@iti.org (John Sauter)

   ajedgar@quantum.on.ca (Andrew Edgar) writes:
   : Just for all you folklore enthusiasts out there, Harmony, QNX and
   : the V-System are all descendants of a research OS at the University
   : of Waterloo in the late '70s called Thoth.  Thoth in turn was a
   : descendant of DEMOS, Basket et al (1977) and Brinch Hansen's 
   : "Distributed Processes" (1970).  After Cheriton finished his Phd
   : on Thoth in 1979 he went to Stanford to work on the V-system.
   : Somewhere in there was influence from the Verex system as well.
   : 
   : I'd be interested in any information people have on these systems,
   : both technical and folklore.  Or on any of these systems: RIG, Accent,
   : Roscoe/Arachne, Charlotte, Hydra, Eden and LOCUS.

   From my understanding, there was another derivative operating system
   called cXOS.  This was the product of the now defunct Motorola cX
   group.  They made some really nice distributed systems.  cXOS was
   based on lightweight tasks with a rich messaging interface.  It made
   distributed development child's play (well at least for us crusty

Another derivative work is Unison.  It is sort of a souped up version
of Harmony (it adds some nice features, such as ports on processes)
and runs on Motorola VME systems.

As far as I know, Morven Gentleman is still working on Harmony at the
National Research Council here in Canada.
--
Greg Franks   (613) 788-5726     Systems and Computer Engineering,
uunet!mitel!cunews!sce!greg      Carleton University,
greg@sce.carleton.ca             Ottawa, Ontario, Canada  K1S 5B6.
Overwhelm them with small bugs so they don't see the big ones.
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: gyugyi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Gyugyi)
Subject: 68HC11 and UNIX
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 00:53:07 GMT

Can anyone point me to free/cheap 68HC11 compilers or assemblers
which run on a Sun sparcstation?  Also, are there any good 
(i.e. free) RTOS's which run on a 68HC11?

-- 
Paul J. Gyugyi
Grad student, control systems, Stanford University
(and an avid LEGO collector)
gyugyi@earthsea.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: tbc@col.hp.com (Tim Chambers)
Subject: Re: Hewlett Packard
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:58:05 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division (PL 17)

I replied to Dave.  The problem that caused the fax to list no sender identity
has been corrected.


Tim Chambers
Sales Development Engineer
Hewlett-Packard Microprocessor Development Systems
(719) 590-5570 or 800-447-3282, x5570
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Has anybody ported UCOS to 8051 ?
From: T73BOS21@ICINECA.CINECA.IT (Dept.Econ.Sc.)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 11:39:32 SET
Organization: CINECA

Hi,
 
does anyone know of a porting uCos to some kind of 8051?
 
I think many people will benefit of using the same set of calls on a small
 
(8 bits) architecture (though performance will not be exceptional), and on
 
a 16 bits architecture.
 
Thanks in advance for any reply
 
D Sermasi
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Re: How can I find LynxOS?
From: T73BOS21@ICINECA.CINECA.IT (Dept.Econ.Sc.)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 11:45:12 SET
Organization: CINECA

In article <4233@winnie.fit.edu>
lindsey@zach.fit.edu ( Steve Lindsey) writes:
 
>
>Does anyone know the phone # and email address for the folks at LynxOS?
>Please email your response.
>Steve Lindsey   * If marriage was outlawed, only outlaws would have in-laws!
>(407) 242-4766  * "If the shoe fits, buy it!" quote from my wife
>"Jesse Jackson don't know how to run nuthin' but his mouth!" Marion Barry
Lynx REAL- TIME SYSTEMS, INC
 
16780 Lark Avenue
 
Los gatos CA, 95030
 
408-354-7770
 
fax: 408-354-7085
 
gurjot at lynx.com ( e-mail address of Mr. Gurjot Singh, director
 
                                           Product Marketing)
From: lindsey@zach.fit.edu ( Steve Lindsey)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: How can I find LynxOS?
Date: 25 Sep 92 13:10:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

Does anyone know the phone # and email address for the folks at LynxOS?
Please email your response.

Thanks!

-- 
Steve Lindsey   * If marriage was outlawed, only outlaws would have in-laws!
(407) 242-4766  * "If the shoe fits, buy it!" quote from my wife
"Jesse Jackson don't know how to run nuthin' but his mouth!" Marion Barry
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: bomr@erich.triumf.ca (Rod Nussbaumer)
Subject: 8051 Multitasking kernel, comments please
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  8051 multitasking realtime kernel
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:12:00 GMT

I posted this to sci.electronics awhile ago, and didn't get much
response.  I hope more people in this group will be able to help.


Kind Sirs:

I am in the market for a real-time kernel to be used in 8051 family
projects.  I have contacted a number of vendors, and am waiting for
their literature packets and demos.  I am wondering if anyone can
comment on any of their experience with these products, or knows of
other products to explore.

My situation is that of a programmer and hardware designer for smallish
embedded system projects used in scientific research applications.  I
have been using the Archimedes C-8051 compiler, and would prefer to 
continue to do so.  Most projects are not limited by memory constraints,
so kernel size is probably not too important.  Performance is also
less important than reliability, fast prototyping and project
completion.  Therefore, I think good documentation and tech support
are quite important.  Price IS a limitation.  Host computer must be
PC compatible, and royalty arrangements are highly undesirable.
Complete source code should be provided.

A list of vendors/products contacted:

A.T. Barrett & Associates, Inc		
	- RTXC Real-Time Multitasking Executive

Byte-BOS Integrated Systems
	- Byte-BOS Multitasking Operating System

CMX Company
	- Real Time Multi-Tasking Operating System

Franklin Software
	- Professional C Developer's Kit, 
		with RXT-51, Real-Time Multi-Tasking

U.S. Software Corporation
	- MultiTask! Exec for 8051


I'd appreciate any comments, either specific to certain products, or
about microcontroller real-time kernels in general.  Thanks, in advance.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Rod Nussbaumer, Programmer/Technologist       Bitnet: BOMR@TRIUMFER
  TRIUMF --- University of British Columbia,  Internet: bomr@erich.triumf.ca
  Vancouver, BC, Canada.                         Phone: (604)222-1047 ext 510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: jseymour@medar.com (James Seymour)
Subject: Re: FAQ for comp.readtime?
Organization: Medar, Inc.     Farmington Hills, MI
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:32:25 GMT

In article <19vhjcINNltd@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ae302@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Haller) writes:
>
>Hello:
>
>Is there a FAQ for this group? I'd like a copy if someone would be
>so kind...
>

Me too!

>Thanks,
>

Also, Thanks!

>PCH
>-- 
>Peter C. Haller                         |       'If you do what you
-- 
Jim Seymour				| "If NT is the answer, it must
...uunet!medar!jseymour			|  be a really silly question"
jseymour@medar.com			|      Warner Losh
CIS: 72730,1166  GEnie: jseymour	|      Computer Power Software
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: pwilson@world.std.com (Pete Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: New Product: Universal SNMP Agent
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:47:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.Bv8rqC.Cp6
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Of possible interest: Paul Freeman Assoc. announces the Universal SNMP Agent: 
a portable, compact, cost-effective, fully-compliant, multi-MIB Agent for 
installation under any modern OS on any platform. The Agent is particularly
suitable for RT/embedded systems and implements prototypes of MIB-II and
others. For a product description, send e-mail to pwilson@world.std.com or 
call 508-692-4436.
From: shaw@plains.NoDak.edu (Ronald Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Re: 68HC11 and UNIX
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:59:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.21004
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


 gyugyi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Gyugyi) writes:
>Can anyone point me to free/cheap 68HC11 compilers or assemblers
>which run on a Sun sparcstation?  Also, are there any good 
>(i.e. free) RTOS's which run on a 68HC11?
>

The answer to both questions can be answered by a single ftp to one of
the sites on your campus.  Andrew Zimmerman has some of the motorola
freeware BBS files on one of the systems there.  I am not sure.
If someone knows or finds out, please post.



-- 
          Ronald D. Shaw           shaw@plains.nodak.edu (Internet)
    uunet!plains!shaw (UUCP)           shaw@plains (Bitnet)
From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Request for references.
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:13:55 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France

[sorry if you see that twice]

  Dear netters.
  We are planning to start to develop a distributed real-time kernel. I need
  references about :
  - real time scheduling algorithms.
  - Synchronization and communication between distributed real-time systems.
  - existing real-time kernels which support distribution (i know about Chorus,
  but is there any other available kernels ?).
  - Any reference about real time systems and pinters about actual research
in this field.

  Documents available through FTP are greatly appreciated.
  Thanks.
From: brad@optilink.UUCP (Brad Yearwood)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Re: Hewlett Packard
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:14:23 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1992Oct2.150252.8614@debbie>, harley@tt.com (Scott Drysdale) writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.175805.22196@col.hp.com> tbc@col.hp.com (Tim Chambers) writes:
> >I replied to Dave.  The problem that caused the fax to list no sender identity
> >has been corrected.
> 
> too bad the featurelessness of your emulators couldn't be corrected :)
> 
> the ethernet option is nice, though.  too bad the rest of the box didn't
> keep up.

What exactly do you mean by "featurelessness"?  Aside from the trace buffer
being so ridiculously small that HP deserves to be crucified in public for it
(I've already given them fair warning by crucifying them in private), the
HP 647xx machines do quite a lot.

Brad Yearwood   brad@optilink.com    {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
Petaluma, CA
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: harley@tt.com (Scott Drysdale)
Subject: Re: Hewlett Packard
Organization: Telecommunications Techniques Corporation, Germantown MD
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:02:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.175805.22196@col.hp.com> tbc@col.hp.com (Tim Chambers) writes:
>I replied to Dave.  The problem that caused the fax to list no sender identity
>has been corrected.

too bad the featurelessness of your emulators couldn't be corrected :)

the ethernet option is nice, though.  too bad the rest of the box didn't
keep up.

>Tim Chambers
>Sales Development Engineer
>Hewlett-Packard Microprocessor Development Systems
>(719) 590-5570 or 800-447-3282, x5570

  --Scotty
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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formerly mr. bridgeboard @ cbm.  soon to be a seaman recruit in the us navy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: wjs@re3sc139h.gmr.com
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Re: RTXC RT kernel from A.T Barrett Associates
Keywords: rtos kernel os
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:49:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: rphroy.91022
Organization: Electonic Data Systems Corp.  Test Engineering

In article <1992Oct1.013837.16181@tamsun.tamu.edu> miller@ee.tamu.edu (Kelly M Miller) writes:
>
>Has anyone used RTXC V3.0 from A.T. Barrett  Associates?
>
>I would appreciate any info you could provide. In
>particular, I am interested in the PC version.
>

I too, am interested in this company's offerings.  It's very important
I find out what kernels they have for the TI C40 .

			Walt Stuart    wjs@re3sc139h.gmr.com
			EDS/GM Research  - Dept E3
			Warren, Mi 48090
Xref: sparky comp.realtime:1145 soc.culture.latin-america:3716 soc.culture.mexican:5650
From: jfg@spiderman.bu.edu (John F. Gibbon)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.mexican
Subject: Spanish Technical Literature
Keywords: Spanish Technical Literature
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:43:05 GMT
Followup-To: comp.realtime
Organization: Information Technology, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: jfg@spiderman.bu.edu


	Greetings.  I am a doctral student at Boston University and need to
find orginal technical literature in Spanish (i.e. not translate from English)
in my research area which includes multimedia, communications, and real-time
scheduling.  I need this literature to justify taking my language qualifying
exam in Spanish, a language in which I am at least semi-fluent.  Any articles
or magazines that can be suggested will be appreciated.
 
					Many thanks,

						John Gibbon
						jfg@spiderman.bu.edu
From: ron@pmafire.inel.gov (Ron Clayton)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: RMX tar program
Keywords: RMX tar
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:37:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: pmafire.1992Sep29.163728.372
Organization: WINCO


A couple months ago, some one posted an article about a UNIX tar program
that runs under RMX.  I could swear I saved the article and even ftp'ed
the code down... but I've spaced it and can't find it. :(  

If anyone knows anything about this program, could you send me some email.

Thanks in advance.

Ron
ron@pmafire.inel.gov

-- 
Ron Clayton - WINCO Engineering Technologies, Idaho Falls, ID
front-door: uunet!pmafire!ron
side-door:  bigtex!pmafire!ron
back-door:  ucdavis!egg-id!pmafire!ron
From: iiitac@PYR.SWAN.AC.UK (Alan Cox)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: Freedom Of Speech
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:59:54 GMT


A lot of people here would like freedom of speech to be guaranteed. You'd
be suprised just how much you can't say in the UK (official secrets act,
etc) - you can't find out what the military doing (as if they know themselves0
you can't even force people like British Nuclear Fuels (the guys who gave
windscale such a bad name they called it sellafield instead) to release
information. We no freedom of information, even goverment records don't
get released for many years after, and anything sensitive can be held
back for ever.

I wouldn't get too smug over the pond though. You've got rules against
hate speech already, and rules stopping free discussion of homosexuality
and even evolution and abortion just simmering on the sidelines to become
fully implemented. And don't forget all of the other free speech issues,
go into a us army barracks and explain to them that you are gay, or a
communist - thats censorship too, censorship by fear. Don't ever
forget the man who said 'A free country is one in which it is safe to be
unpopular'. Now remember american history, McCarthy for example. Nobody
really has free speech, and there is an awful lot of fighting to be done.
Also don't assume freedom of speech is an American thing only - we want
it here, a lot of americans would like it in the USA too..

I think I shall get off my soapbox now before they come and take me away...


Alan Cox
----------Everything here is my own opinion and not to be taken----------
--otherwise. All liability for use of information in this article or ----
--accuracy is with the user. Export into countries where this material---
--is illegal are forbidden. This article is freely redistributable under-
--the gnu copyleft -------- In a 'free' world and I need a disclaimer..--
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From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,misc.legal.computing
Subject: Re: MCI E-mail Snooping
Keywords: Corporate Computing, September 1992
Date: 26 Sep 92 07:03:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Sep26.070306.8031
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Mark Komarinski) writes:

>But is it legal to have a sysadmin read user's email? NO!  At least it 
>shouldn't be.  Even though MCI was carrying the mail, they should have
>no right to read user's messages.  Then again, if he didn't want anyone
>to read his messages, he should have deleted them before closing his 
>account.  This may be a very interesting case.

Sorry, but according to the laws, a sysadmin can read *anything* if
it is necessary to keep the system working or to fix a problem.

He shouldn't *snoop*. 

There is a difference.
-- 
Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
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FIDO:   1:105/51	 Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
(The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
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From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
Subject: Re: Banned Computer Material 1992
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:51:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: m.1992Oct6.195154.18500
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell) writes:

[...]
>You seem to be highly selective about where you choose to apply your
>alleged standards. And that is *precisely* the concern being
>expressed.
[...]

Can you be more specific? What evidence of "highly selective"
application do you see?

- Carl

--
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Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy