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From: 9062987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: What happened to Bad English?
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:31:22 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <j.m.crant.1.4.0@nd.edu>, j.m.crant.1@nd.edu (Mike Crant) writes:
> 
>     I read the recent postings about the Babys and one implied that Bad 
> English broke up, apparantly with some bad blood between the 
> members.  I've been a John Waite fan for quite some time-- saw the Babys 
> with Styx in 1979 in Lakeland, Florida (first date with my now wife) and 
> have followed his career since then.  In fact, we saw the Baby's twice, JW 
> solo four times, and Bad English once.  I loved the first Bad 
> English record; IMHO, it was quite underrated.  Unfortunately, the second 
> one (Backlash), sucked.  It was the worse thing John Waite has 
> ever put out.  As far as I know, they never even released any videos from 
> it, and John Waite has always released lots of videos.  
> 
>      I never heard any details of the Bad English breakup.  Can 
> anyone fill me in?  
> 

I spent a bit of time hanging out with the band in early '91, when my band
LEGEND, backed them on a tour around England. Back then things did seem a
little tense, but there was no talk of split up. I have since spoken to John
and the band has split because of, I quote "creative differences". I have also
heard that the other band members were unimpressed with John's mixing on the
albums. I believe from my own experience with Bad English, that these guys all
wanted more of the spotlight, and John being the founder of the band wasn't
happy with that.


"Put your hand in my pocket, grab onto my rocket."

A.J. Slazenger.
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Black Crowes
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:45:37 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <8eb4nnm00WBN48mFx6@andrew.cmu.edu> wp11+@andrew.cmu.edu (W Darren Prouty) writes:
>First: Anyone know if they're coming to Pittsburgh?

  Don't know; I would like, however, to receive any dates people have on
the High As The Moon tour.  I only know the dates so far:

1992 THE SOUTHERN HARMONY AND MUSICAL COMPANION RELEASE

  High As The Moon tour

opened in Minneapolis, MN

8/24- Beacon Theater, NYC
8/  - Beacon Theater, NYC
8/  - Beacon Theater, NYC

9/3 - Fox Theater, Atlanta


  ...any help/additions/corrections would be greatly appreciated!!!

>Second: Is there any sort of fan club or info source on the band?

  There is a fan club based out of Van Nuys, CA called "Crowe Mafia".
The address is available on the first CD.

  I can tell you right now that this fan club sucks; they aren't officially
affiliated in any way with Def American, and you can get more info. on the
net concerning the Crowes than by the once-a-year outdated letter they
send out.  Their Crowe merchandise sucks- very poor quality at super-high
prices.  They had a pen-pal listing in '91 that was ok, but that's about
it.

>Third: Is there anybody who DOESN'T like this band?

  It wouldn't make me like the band any less :-)

  Chris got a lot of flack in '91 or so because of the ZZ Top incident and
because he spat on a woman in Colorado.  People seemed to forget about that
and the controversy has died down a bit (kinda like how people forgot that
Axl smashed a wine bottle over his neighboor's head :-)

   I haven't seen anyone swearing never to buy any more Crowes albums yet,
so I guess they are ok in the public eye for now.


  Doug
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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: the worst Yes song
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 12:01:54 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

nelson@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

> 
> Au contraire.  "Shoot High Aim Low" was one of the few things on
> Big Generator worth listening to.  For real Yes drivel, try some of
> Jon Anderson's solo efforts, but that may be cheating, so how about
> Teakbois, or Quartet, or the start and end of Brother of Mine,
> or most of Union (which, though better than AWBH, is still short on
> musical content).
> 

Well, that's your opinion. Personally, I think they wrote a great song in 
SHAL, but they sucked the life out of it for the album. It was the hardest
album for me to get in to, with Tormato and Union close seconds.

> Tormato isn't a terrible album.  If you delete all of side 2 except
> On The Silent Wings Of Freedom, it becomes quite a good album.
> 
 
Agreed. OTSWOF is one of my five favorite Yes songs. Arriving UFO is just
plain drivel, Circus Of Heaven was kinda lame, and Onward suffers like SHAL
in that it just plods along.

--Don
From: schrey@prc.unisys.com (Timothy M. Schreyer)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Springsteen mailing list?
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:22:57 GMT
Reply-To: schrey@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems


  Could someone please direct me to a mailing list for The Boss?
  Saw him last Friday at the Spectrum in Philadelphia and my girlfriend
  and roommate are leaning on me to get them the latest news as it
  happens :-).

  Please E-mail.

       Tim
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 PO Box 517, Paoli, PA 19301
From: sortland@ocf.berkeley.edu (Stefan Sortland)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Blues Traveller
Date: 29 Aug 1992 07:57:35 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: plague-ether.berkeley.edu

	Query. I'm looking for info on this group, as well as
recommendations. Many thanks in advance..


				Stefan (X) nafetS

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: grant@tiamat.ucs.sfu.ca (Grant Dimock)
Subject: Starcastle and/or Gentle Giant
Keywords: Starcastle,Gentle Giant, Giant
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:06:28 GMT

Has anyone ever heard of these guys?  

Gentle Giant has been releasing their old stuff on C.D.'s for a couple of years
now, but I am looking for C.D.'s of their last three: Missing Piece, Giant for
a Day and Civilian.

As far as Starcastle goes, I have seen their debut out on CD, but I'm looking
for information on the release of the rest of them (Fountains of Light, Citidel
and Reel to Real).
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc,rec.music.info
From: dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Subject: MAILINGLIST: Elton John DIGEST mailing list
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Originator: recmusic@galaxy
Reply-To: dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:29:26 GMT

Hi,

A couple people unsubscribed from the Elton John mail service because
of too much mail, so now I have two different Elton lists going --
one mails out all the posts as they come, and the other is a digest,
where it is mailed out every morning at 6:00am (automated) and this
consists of the previous day's posts.  So, if you subscribe to the
digest you get one piece of mail a day.

If you are interested, please email elton-john-request@uiuc.edu with
the SUBJECT as "SUBSCRIBE - Service " or "SUBSCRIBE - Digest", for
which one you prefer.

thanks
-- 
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 "You think this fool could never win, well look at me honey I'm back
  again... I'm Still Standing" -Elton John / Bernie Taupin 1983
From: dutkowsk5111@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Dennis Miller Show 
Date: 30 Aug 92 13:03:01 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Help me,
  Are there any of you outthere who recorded the Dennis Miller show? I have
been looking for some time now for anyone who recorded the show that had 
Ray Manzarek and Michael McClure on it.  If any of you have this on tape please
e-mail me.  I am looking for either a audio or video recording of the 
interview and performance.  Please!! Somebody help me!!
                                                         
- Dave
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: earendil@wizard.etsu.edu (Allen Garvin)
Subject: Re: Atlantic 40 Year anniversary special
Reply-To: earendil@wizard.etsu.edu (Allen Garvin)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:05:51 GMT

>Anybody out there know if the Atlantic 40 yr special is available on
>videotape?  I missed it when it was on television a few years back.  It
>featured some of Atlantic's biggest groups, brought back together for the
>show, including Led Zeppelin, Yes, Foreigner, to name a few. thanks.

What is this?! These aren't the people Antlantic records is know by!
Think of Ray Charles, Big Joe Turner, The Drifters and the Clovers, 
Aretha Franklin, Solomon Burke, and so on. For most of us, Atlantic
will always be one of the greatest (if not the) labels for rhythm and
blues in America. To see what Atlantic stands for, get the 14 record set
titled 'The History of Rhythm and Blues' that Atlantic puts out.

    -Allen Garvin
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: jimh@pacdata.com (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Song title
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:19:01 GMT

I've got this snippet of a song going through my head and I can't get it out.
It goes something like "my name is foo, please take my hand..."  I think if
I could remember what foo was I'd know the song.  Can anyone help?

jim

-- 
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From: kabadkar@CS.ColoState.EDU (ashwin kabadkar)
Subject: Re: Lyrics to "janies' got a gun" by Areasmith
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:29:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <BtLJFG.Gqx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Zych) writes:
>eehrhard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elizabeth J Ehrhardt) writes:
>
>>In the song "Janie's Got a Gun" by Areosmith, what exactly did her daddy do?
>
>>the words are something like: "what did her daddy do, what did he put her 
>>through?  He tried to something something baby, the man has got to be insane"
>
>I'm not sure what the 'something something' is, but the way I understand it,
>her father raped her.
>
 I think you are correct. I think I heard Casey say on American Top 40 once
 that the song is about incest.

 Ashwin

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot)
Subject: Re: Words to "Oh Oz never did nuthin' to the Tin Man"
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:13:37 CDT

In article <Aug.25.14.18.01.1992.11859@andromeda.rutgers.edu> detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio) writes:
>
[ Tin Man lyrics deleted - what's the difference anyway?]

Did anyone ever notice that the lyrics of America's tunes meant
absolutely nothing? Well, maybe something could be made of them
if one was high enough. This held true of almost all of their
songs. The melodies were ok though. I think there was one song
called Head and Heart that did make sense though.
Just an observation after reading the Tin Man lyrics.



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From: speights@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Arlen Speights)
Subject: Re: Devo
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:58:03 GMT

zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) writes:

>In article <keXvq0y00WDKA3vr8_@andrew.cmu.edu> vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon) writes:
>>hey spuds!
>>
>>	a while ago someone asked about creating a Devo mailing list and was
>>checking to see if there would be any response to it. i sent him/her a
>>message but never got a response. so is there any interest in a devo
>>list? does one already exist? is anybody gonna start one? thanks.

>WHile I don't know exactly what a mailing list is, COUNT ME IN anyway!!!

There's an ongoing thread in rec.music.synth to CFD a newsgroup
devoted to the spudly ones.  It could be great....

Arlen
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From: dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Subject: Re: MAILING LIST: Guns N' Roses
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:51:16 GMT


  HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO POST THIS FUCKING MESSAGE?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

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From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Carrier Dome (Syracuse, NY)
Date: 2 Sep 92 02:22:39 GMT
Distribution: ny
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: pjb4288@ultb

Hi,

  I'm going to the Carrier Dome in Syracuse on September 26 for the Elton
John concert.

Does anyone know 'bout the handicap parking there????

Pete
Pjb4288@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
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Disclaimer: You don't like what I'm writing? Oh well.
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: aa361@yfn.ysu.edu (Tom Puncekar)
Subject: Beer Drinkin' Music?
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:32:08 GMT


Recently I visited a local pool hall, and noticed something GREAT.
Most of the bar/bowling alley/pool halls I've been in, have always played
these weak country songs, or just plain ol' SOFT rock. That, in MY opinion,
sucks. Anyways, this pool hall I went to, as soon as walking in the door,
one would get BLASTED by a bolt of sound from the great George Thorougood!
I don't know if I spelled the last name right, so don't flame me. :)

Anyways, George has been on of my favorite rock-n-roller's, especially while
shootin' pool <My game goes better, go figure.>.. So, since then, I've been
tryin' to get a GOOD list of plain old Beer drinkin' music like George sings.
Any ideas? Any opinions? I'd be VERY happy to hear em! Also, could someone,
ANYone, compile me a list of George's Tapes? Any and all of em. I'm not a
usual listener to rock-n-roll, my tastes usually lie in thrash, death, and
industrial metal, but this man, GEORGE, is a MUST have in my collection!
<Like I said, I shot a GREAT game!> :)

Thanks for the help in advance...
.....Tom.....
aa361@yfn.ysu.edu
-- 
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be compelled to do, forced to do from ones inner self. The 11 deaths on 
Denali should only further enrage the hearts and souls of climbers, and
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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Billy Squire lyric
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:10:16 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <92239.142139TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime) writes:
>What's the part say in the song "Everybody Wants You" (I think that's the title
>of it) right after he says "You got your glory, you paid for it all".
>It's like "(part I don't get) loneliness and alcohol".
>
>Boy this is really bugging me. Please reply by e-mail if you know what the heck
>he's saying. Thanks.
>
>Sime Sime everywhere a Sime


  (for the benefit of everyone..)

   "you take your pension in loneliness and alcohol"

  Doug
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From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Guns and Roses
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:51:03 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

robb@ais.org (Robert Gonyer) writes: 
| In article <1992Aug23.025705.28342@news.iastate.edu> tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
| >In article <1992Aug18.161121.18274@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, joeh@coos.dartmouth.edu (Joseph L. Hill) writes:
| >>> ..One thing for sure-- not many bands manage to get as strong of
| >>> supporters or denouncers as GnR...
| >>
| >>>> Well, U2 (of which GnR are but a pale imitation of, in some respects)
| >>>> have done...
| >>
| >>Thats funny you say that, I shelled out 80 bucks for good GnR seats and
| >>just turned down a free 5th row at u2 for tonight, guess that pale
| >>imitation does something right.
| >
| >   Yeah, it shows that you need to get your head checked!  That's comparable to
| >giving up a front-row ticket to a Pink Floyd or Rush concert so you could spen
|                                                  ^^^^
| >80 bucks for good Vanilla Ice seats.  The next time someone offers you the
| >chance of a lifetime, why don't you buy a fucking clue!
| Excuse me while I go puke.  I can stand Rush almost as much as Vanilla
| Ice.  It only goes to show that everyone has opinions, Joseph and I like
| GNR, you like U2, Floyd, and Rush.  So what?  Why cut him down for what he
| likes?  I wouldnt turn down a good night of washing my car to go see U2 
| for free, either.

Oh, it looks to me like in the course of one evening of posting, managed to
insult everyone whose tastes didn't agree with his.  There were 5 or so
posts that I saw (so far), and every one of them had something bad to say.

I've already written him off.

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Subject: Re: Amused to Death - First Impressions
Reply-To: a-feygin@uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 06:12:35 GMT

reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali) writes:
} Well... the long awaited new Roger Waters solo hit the stores yesterday.
} So far, I've only listened to it once.  Waters' albums sort of "grow" on
} me after a while, so any conclusions may be premature, but it was a bit

Water's albums grow on me too.  I owned Pros and Cons for a year
and a half before I liked it and now its one of my favorite albums.
On the other hand I liked KAOS when I got it but think its crap now.
This album is somewhere between the two.  It would seem like I should
like it but so far I am only impressed by a few songs (Watching TV, 
Amused to Death).

} of a let-down.  Simply put, it's a 70+ minute philosophical/political
} oratorio.  I was so excited to learn that Jeff Beck was to play on this
} album, but he only has a token part in 3 or 4 songs (out of 14).  To

Actually he is credited on most if not every song on the album.
He simply doesnt have THAT many solos...

} Roger, music has become secondary.  Two albums from now, in 2002, we'll
} probably get a 75 mintue speech on a CD.  I liked Pros & Cons and Radio

Yes...  I am getting rather tired of the same thing from Rog...I find
this album very similar to The Final Cut except for the poor vocals.

Anyone know what happened to Rog's voice??
It seemed to be fine in 1990 when he did the Live in Berlin thing.

} KAOS.  I guess part of the disappointment is because I expected this
} to be his summa cum laude because he's worked on it for almost 5 years.


-- 
  Alexander Feygin      "This species has amused itself to death"
 a-feygin@uiuc.edu                -- Roger Waters

   The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not CCSO
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
From: james@raveup.b24a.ingr.com (Teddie James)
Subject: Re: del Amitri
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:59:44 GMT

In article <5709@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>, ewing@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (David Ewing) writes:
|> In <1992Sep3.124409.26145@panix.com> schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >Now for a question: is the leader of this group a Mr. Something del Amitri,
|> >or is his first name Del and his surname Amitri?
|> 
|> Neither.  I believe it is Italian ("The ... ").  Anybody speak
|> Italian out there and/or know what del Amitri translates to?

Actually, "del Amitri" is Gaelic for "among friends."  How do I know
this?  I remember seeing it in an ad for Waking Hours a long time ago.

Any Gaelic speakers out there?


TEDDIE JAMES
Intergraph Corporation
Huntsville, AL
205-730-8065
james@raveup.b24a.ingr.com
uunet!ingr!b24a!raveup!james
From: afcanav@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: What year did Phil Collins join Genesis?
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:09:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <15257@umd5.umd.edu>, jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) writes...
>In article <1992Sep02.161023.24392@rchland.ibm.com> ehrhart@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jeffrey Ehrhart) writes:
>>Peter Gabriel left?  If so, what was the first song Phil sang lead on? 
>>
> 
>Gabriel's last album was 1974's _The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway_.  He
>left after the tour for the album ended, in 1975.  
> 
>Phil Collin's first official lead vocal was "More Fool Me" on 1973's
>_Selling England By the Pound_.  He also sang lead (co-lead?) on "For
>Absent Friends" on 1971's _Nursery Cryme_.  I still can't decide if it's
>only Phil singing that song or if it's a duet between Collins and Gabriel.
>But Collins' voice is definitely there.
> 
>The first album with Phil Collins as official lead singer was 1976's _Trick
>of the Tail_.

just out of curiousity, who was the drummer before Phil?  Where is he now?



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