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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Michael McNevin Tour Schedule
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:06:20 GMT


Michael McNevin's mailing just arrived.  Lot's of stuff for
those of you in Northern CA.  

Jan 2   West Coast Weekend  KQED 88.5 FM  11AM live  8PM rebroadcast
Jan 2   Freight & Salvage Coffee House    Berkeley CA     510-548-1761
Jan 9   Kuumbwa Jazz Center               Santa Cruz CA   408-427-2227
Jan 16  Country Store Cafe                Saratoga CA     408-867-2440
Jan 23  Coffee Roast Express              Pleasanton CA   510-426-8869
Jan 29  The White Raven                   Felton CA       408-335-3611
Feb 11  Bluebird Cafe                     Santa Barbara CA    NA
Feb ??  ?????                             Tucson AZ

For those of you who don't know McNevin, he is one of the most
promising new singer/songwriters around.  An English publication,
the Kerrville Kronicle, called his debut tape, _Secondhand Story_,
one of the finest sets of original material the nineties will see.
There's also a review in the Dec/Jan issue of Dirty Linen.

If I'm not mistaken, the Dirty Linen review, which I haven't seen,
is by Andrew Calhoun.  In any case, Andrew has written a review, 
which concludes:
     Two songs here, "November 4th" and "25 and Out of Room" are
     appealing but immature.  The other nine approach perfection.
     There is a wealth of secret meaning in these lyrics.  Pay 
     close attention.  This is the work of a master.
Two of Michael's songs will be on a compilation CD that Andrew
is releasing shortly (if not already) called _American Impressionist
Songwriters_.

--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
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From: "kaca henlez" <kaca.henlez@canrem.com>
Subject: records (vinyl) for sale
Reply-To: "kaca henlez" <kaca.henlez@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:23:12 EST

I'd be interested in the two Kingston Trios and the Hank Thompson, but 
where is area code 508? Would shipping be a fortune? I'm in Toronto, 
Canada.
Let me know, please
Thx  / v
   K A C A (pronounced Kacha)

               Kaca.Henlez@canrem.com
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From: dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (David West)
Subject: Re: Locrian mode? (was: Re: Modes)
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:44:40 GMT

In article <packer-211292113359@excalibur.swarthmore.edu> packer@forum.swarthmore.edu (Asa Packer) writes:
>Does anyone know of any tunes that use the Locrian mode?
>(Locrian is B C D E F G A B or C Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C)
>Anytime I've seen this mode mentioned in books the author always said
>something
>like "this mode has never been much more than a theoretical possibility".

John Kirkpatrick's song "Dust To Dust", on his album "Jump at the Sun",
Trailer LER 2033 (1972).

The song is about death, and the melody is unusual (this is almost guaranteed
by the use of the Locrian mode) and, IMHO, beautiful in a spare and angular way,
and well-matched to his unsentimental treatment of the subject-matter.

-David West     dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Karla Bonoff
From: Tina Hay @ Penn State <TMH1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 16:43:41 EST
Organization: Penn State University

I've never seen her perform live, and I didn't realize she was even still
active in the music scene.  I like her first album (recommended by someone
else in this group) but I like her second album even more.  If only I could
remember the name of it!  It contains my very favorite version of "The Water
is Wide," arranged by Pete Seeger among others, and with James Taylor and
J.D.  Souther on guitar accompaniment and vocals.

Her later album(s) didn't do as much for me -- too much pop, e.g. the hit
single "Personally."

Does anyone know if any of her albums have been released on CD?
From: ebersman@uunet.uu.net (Paul A. Ebersman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: build your own banjo!
Date: 25 Dec 1992 15:38:43 GMT
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc.
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In-reply-to: "Jane F. Kinkus"'s message of Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:18:33 -0500 


Jane> also, the stewart-mcdonald manufacturing company (POB 900,
Jane> athens, ohio, 45701) produces banjo and mandolin kits.
Jane> according to david burnor in "the next whole earth catalog" p.
Jane> 472 (new york: random house, 1980), "Their particular claim to
Jane> fame is their line of banjo and mandolin kits which provide
Jane> musicians with great sounding instruments in easy-to-build money
Jane> saving form."

Steward MacDonald sells primarily bluegrass and upper-end backless
banjos. I don't recall seeing mountain style kits. However, the parts
of are good quality and the kits seem pretty well thought out.

The nice thing about banjo kits is that the banjo doesn't require much
woodworking, assuming the neck is mostly done. What is left is the
finishing and assembly work. Since these are the two parts that are
least automatable at factories, this is where a lot of the cost of an
assembled instrument. You can get a kit from Stew-Mac for $500 that if
you assemble it carefully and do a good finish will be the equivalent
of many custom banjos.

Besides, kits are fun. B^)
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           than the difference between theory and practice in theory.
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From: watson@hg.uleth.ca (The terror that flaps in the night)
Subject: Re: New Joni Mitchell fan wants your help
Reply-To: watson@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:50:20 GMT

In article <2B394C77.5959@ics.uci.edu>, jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw) writes:
>Hi all, I have just recently discovered folk music (don't ask me
>why it took so long, hey, I am only 22 :) and my first taste of it
>has been wonderful, thanks to Joni Mitchell's _Clouds_ CD (and to
>think the album is actually one year older than I am!)
>
>My favorite songs off _Clouds_ are: The Gallery, Both Sides, Now,
>I Don't Know Where I Stand, and yes, of course, Chelsea Morning :)
>
>Would someone please directly me to more wonderful and beautiful
>musics like these by Joni Mitchell, or to other musicians that I
>should know about?  Please?  Pretty Please?

I've recently purchased the new tribute to Joni Mitchell compilation called
_Back to the Garden_. It was assembled in Canada and all contributing artists
are Canadian.  It's definitely a keeper!  Here's the track listing:

Free Man in Paris - Big Faith
This Flight Tonight - Sara Craig
Carey - Universal Honey
Big Yellow Taxi - Lorraine Scott
Black Crow - Molly Johnson
The Beat of Black Wings - Andy Stochansky
Shades of Scarlett Conquering - Martha & the Muffins
The Hissing of Summer Lawns - Funky Bummer
River - Hugh Marsh et. al
You Turn Me On I'm a Radio - Kurt Swinghammer
Coyote - Spirit of the West
Woodstock - W.O.W.
Night in the City - Jenny Whiteley
A Case of You - Sloan
Blonde in the Bleachers - Squiddly
Songs to Aging Children Come - Cody & Jones
Refuge of the Road - Rocket Science

All the tunes are done well except "Big Yellow..." (inapropropriately turned
into a soul tune) and "You Turn Me On..." (converted into a high speed country
polka - blech).  My faves:  "The Beat of Black Wings", "Coyote", "Woodstock",
"River", "Refuge of the Road".

Has anyone else picked this up?  Whaddaya think?

- Carol "gee i gotta cd player now" Watson   :)

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From: rblackma@nyx.cs.du.edu (robert blackman)
Subject: Alison Brown
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 02:29:23 GMT


Re the inquiry about Alison Brown...She's best known as a banjo player
(bluegrass style) although she's a fine guitarist also.  She has two
CDs on Vanguard, "Simple Pleasures" (Vanguard 79459, from 1990) and
"Twilight Motel" (Vanguard 79465, from 1992).  Both are all-instrumental
except for Maura O'Connell singing "Sweet Thames Flow Softly" on the
second album.  The music tends to be either fairly straightforward
bluegrass style or David Grisman-like "new acoustic music."  In fact,
Grisman produced the first album and plays on it.  Alison also spent
some time as the banjo player in Alison Krauss' bluegrass band Union
Station (and Krauss plays on the "Simple Pleasures" CD).  Both albums
are pretty good -- very well played, certainly.  Personally I get a
little tired of "new acoustic music" (I like the bluegrassier numbers
that break up the albums) but I doenjoy both of these.  All of the
music is original except for "Sweet Thames" (a Ewan MacColl song).
Overall I'd say that you'd like these records if you like Grisman-type
stuff or other somewhat jazzy acoustic music.  If you're a hard-core
bluegrass fan, these might be a little further out than you prefer,
although they're much closer to straight bluegrass than, say, Bela
Fleck and the Flecktones.
Alison has a BA from Harvard in American history and literature,
played with the Boston-area band Northern Lights, got an MBA in
finance and marketing from UCLA, became an investment banker for 2 
years, then was asked to join Alison Krauss' band when they lost their
banjo player.  (She also plays on Krauss' album "I've Got That Old
Feeling" on Rounder.)  She gave up banking when the Krauss gig 
worked out so well.
--Bob Blackman, WKAR Radio, East Lansing, MI

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: tan@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (william.m.tanenbaum)
Subject: Re: Lyrics - Galway Races
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:12:35 GMT

I have heard a recording of Galway Races by the Clancy Bros.
Unfortunately, I don't know which album it is from.

Bill Tanenbaum
-- 
Bill Tanenbaum   AT&T Bell Labs  Naperville IL.
From: colm@mathcs.emory.edu (Colm K. Mulcahy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Dranouter Festival, Belgium
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:23:22 -0500
Organization: sometimes, but never early in the morning
NNTP-Posting-Host: emory.mathcs.emory.edu

when is this festival held?  anyone got any contacts (phone/fax)?

thanks


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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Margaret Christl (was Re: The Battle of Alma)
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:41:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.150603.571@hnrc.tufts.edu> jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal) writes:

   In article <1992Dec22.092640.763@mec.ohio.gov>, oecn_michael@mec.ohio.gov 
   writes:
   >>Well, I've been learning this one off a tape of Margaret Christl.

   Is she still recording?  I have but two:  the Folk Legacy disc with Ian Robb
   and her "Jockey to the Fair".  Wouldn't mind more.

I have those and two others: Live '83, a tape which is plagued by a 
horrendous pre-echo that makes it virtually unlistenable, and Looking
Towards Home, which came out four or five years ago.  Neither of them
contains The Battle of Alma, so there must be more.  I'd also be 
interested in knowing if there's anything more recent, and where to
obtain it.

--
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Martin@cis.umassd.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.folk:8825 soc.culture.celtic:8476
From: agauld@gssec.bt.co.uk (Alan Gauld)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: The Great Selkie of Sule Skerrie
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:27:33 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Engineering Centre, Scotland.

In article <BETSYS.92Dec25230247@ra.cs.umb.edu>, betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
> This is from memory so forgive the mistakes. It's a simple and odd
> and haunting story. A Silkie is a seal....
And a very good memory at that!
[..... some verses deleted ....]

>And thou shall marry a gunner* proud            [Harpoon-man]
>And an aye proud gunner I'm sure 'twill be
--- And  a gye good gunner he's sure to be ----  [gye = very] 
>And the very first shot that ere he shoots
>Will kill both my young son and me."
And the version I have has the following last verse:

And she has married a gunner good
And a gye good gunner so was he			
And the very first shot that ever he fired
killed the son and the grey silkie


PS I think the song is from the Orkney Isles(North of scotland) and is
heavily influenced by Norwegian folk songs

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From: mark@oracorp.com (Mark Bickford)
Subject: Undisputed Masters
Organization: ORA Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:17:53 GMT


I was listening to a tape of Matt Malloy in my car the other day,
and was overwhelmed as usual. I started wondering how many other
musicians could be as universally respected as the master of
his/her instrument in his/her musical genre as Matt Malloy is
for Irish music on the flute. I thought this question might make
a good topic for more lists (which we seem to love).

Here's what I thought of as I was driving:

Matt Malloy		Irish flute
Noel Hill		Irish Anglo-Concertina
Kenny Baker		Bluegrass Fiddle
Clifton Chenier		Zydeco Piano-Accordion
Alisdair Frazier (sp?)	Scottish Fiddle
Mary Bergin		Irish Tin Whistle

I might pick: Liz Carroll	Irish Fiddle
but does she really qualify?

P.S.  I know that the "correct" response to this question
is that such rankings are meaningless etc. etc. and I agree.
This posting is only for fun and, hopefully, to start an 
interesting thread from which I might learn something.

   ---- Mark Bickford.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: dld@cs.monash.edu.au (David L Dowe)
Subject: Seeking "Apple Seed" newsletter on John McCutcheon
Summary: Seeking "Apple Seed" newsletter on John McCutcheon
Keywords: McCutcheon, John McCutcheon, newsletter, Apple seed
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:34:07 GMT


Hello.   In response to a posting I sent out earlier (yesterday) re John
McCutcheon, one kind reader of rec.music.folk mentioned that there is a John
McCutcheon newsletter, Apple Seed; and suggested that I might try and find
out the address of it (Apple Seed) through another person reading
rec.music.folk .   This would then enable me to get the travel/tour information
which I want.

Any suggestions?   Thank you again.   - David Dowe.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: New Age vs Enya & Clannad
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:34:51 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <10763@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu (Bill Richardson) writes:
 
|New Age is some of the most atrocious "music" I have heard, seeming to  
|begin from the false hypothesis that you can create something entirely  
|"new" without any influences.

You haven't listened to too much new age music have you?  Nor do you seem
to know that the musicians creating this thing called "new age" music did
not up with the name "new age".  I'm not going to list a bunch of artists
but there is a lot of music which is classified under some marketing types
definition of new age music.  The actual style is quite broad.  Like any 
genre some of it's crap.  

|Enya on the other hand, has a very modern  
|sounding music, with a very "new" sound, but she is entirely true to her  
|folk roots, and does not make the pretentious claim of having created  
|something "new".  

To me Enya sounds new because her vocals almost sound as if they are sampled
and are just being played on a keyboard.  I also find her boring.   

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From: symonds@kodak.com (F. Peter Symonds)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Karla Bonoff
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:48:27 GMT
Organization: Eastman Chemicals Company
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
X-XXDate: Thu, 31 Dec 92 12:52:38 GMT

Karla Bonoff is going to be playing near here (Knoxville, TN) at the end
of January.  A flier I got says "she has toured with Jackson Brown and
James Taylor and written several hits for Linda Ronstadt....  Karla's
collaborations with fellow singer-songwriters have kept her especially
active over the years, sharing club and small theater dates with the
likes of Bonnie Raitt, John Prine, and J.D. Souther."

A friend at work saw her ten years ago and suggested it would be a good
show.  Any comments?

What does she have out on CD?  Which one(s) would be a good warm up for
the concert?
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: "raymond greer" <raymond.greer@canrem.com>
Subject: looking for lyrics poem
Reply-To: "raymond greer" <raymond.greer@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:11:21 EST

I just found this net and am hoping someone here can help me with the
lyrics to a couple of songs. It may be one song and one Poem
Sammy Morgans Gin  and a rather Bawdy rendition of The
Midnight Ride of Paul Revere. My Uncle used to sing these songs to
us as kids. Now he is gone and I find the lyrics not easy to come
by.

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From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Woke up, it was a Chelsea (Clinton
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:40:00 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <92353.133052U15289@uicvm.uic.edu>, U15289@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> Was Judy Collins' cover of this song ever released on an album?  I haven't
> seen it on one myself, though I have heard it on radio.
> 
You can say I'm being overdramatic but in my opinion the fact that CM was
never released on an album in the 60's was one of the reasons Judy Collins's
career leveled off.  There were many of us who considered her rendition to be
the highlight of any of her concerts and it felt like we were being cheated
when album after album came out and it was missing.

It was finally released as a single (was Pretty Polly on the flip side?  I'm
naking the classic gaffe of typing this while I'm away from my record
collection) but somehow it never felt quite right.
From: symonds@kodak.com (F. Peter Symonds)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: David Wilcox
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:39:35 GMT
Organization: Eastman Chemicals Company
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X-XXDate: Thu, 31 Dec 92 12:43:47 GMT

In article <fblau.725746871@well.sf.ca.us> Frank Blau,
fblau@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>Where can I hear more? Anyone know anything about him? Where;s he from?

I believe he is originally from somewhere in Ohio, but he is currently
living in Black Mountain, North Carolina (just east of Ashville)  --  I
guess I should clarify...  when I saw him two years ago, he said he was
living in Black Mountain.  He used to play quite frequently at a little
club there called McDibb's.  When I saw him this fall, I asked him if he
still plays there.  He said that the club had changed hands, and "it
isn't fun to play there anymore."
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jtblair@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (John Blair)
Subject: Is there folk music in New York?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:06:15 GMT

Hey You guys, especially you guys in New York!

I going to be in N.Y. between the 27th of Dec. and the 2nd or 3rd of
Jan. for MLA.  Is there anything I really shouldn't miss?  A folk
bar I really should go to?

I'd appreciate any tips.   Thanks!

john
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: records (vinyl) for sale
Date: 30 Dec 1992 04:41:13 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pismo.sw.stratus.com


Vinyl for sale!!

Hank Thompson A Six Pack To Go  Original MONO cover seam split/vinyl MINT $15
Kingston Trio String Along Original MONO cover seam split/vinyl VG $8
Kingston Trio Here We Go Again! Original MONO cover seam split/vinyl VG+ $10
Janis Ian (1st album with Society's Child) Original Stereo vinyl VG+ $10
Merle Travis Back Home Original 1957 issue! Cover MINT/ vinyl VG+ $50
Chet Atkins Stringin' Along with Original 1956 issue! Cover MINT/vinyl VG+ $25


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From: "howard kaplan" <howard.kaplan@canrem.com>
Subject: chelsea morning on lp
Reply-To: "howard kaplan" <howard.kaplan@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:41:49 EST

When I read the following exchange concerning Chelsea Morning

>U15289@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>> Was Judy Collins' cover of this song ever released on an album?
>> I haven't seen it on one myself, though I have heard it on radio.
>
>... CM was never released on an album in the 60's ... it felt like we
>were being cheated when album after album came out and it was missing.

it didn't make sense to me, because the performance is too familiar
and I didn't spend that much time listening to radio stations that
played a lot of folk music (sigh!).  To confirm my sanity, I scoured
my collection and found it on an LP called "Living", EKS-7504, with
a copyright date of 1971.  If you subscribe to the theory that the
60s ended with Nixon's resignation in 1974, then this song was, in
fact, released on an album in the 60's.

Howard Kaplan, Toronto                 howard.kaplan@canrem.com
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From: billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu (Bill Richardson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: New Age vs Enya & Clannad
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:17:39 GMT


New Age is some of the most atrocious "music" I have heard, seeming to  
begin from the false hypothesis that you can create something entirely  
"new" without any influences.  Enya on the other hand, has a very modern  
sounding music, with a very "new" sound, but she is entirely true to her  
folk roots, and does not make the pretentious claim of having created  
something "new".  I've never listened to Clannad, but from reading the  
lists they sound similar to Enya.

Bill Richardson, Blacksburg, Virginia