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From: dvp@oasis.icl.co.uk (Geezer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:09:10 GMT
Organization: The Mountains of Madness
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

aeckert@diana.cair.du.edu (AMY E. ECKERT) writes:
> >
> I think that your reasoning is kind of circular.  In order for women to be
> accepted as leaders, we need to have more women leaders, but they won't be
> accepted because there aren't very many, and around and around and around.
> The way to break this is to put women in positions of leadership and by
> doing so change people's perceptions.  I vote for a female captain!
> 
> Amy
> aeckert@diana.cair.du.edu

Yeah, well we had a women in charge here for a while and I hope it's a
long time before we have another! One Thatcher is enough!

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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9 on KBHK, San Francisco
Date: 11 Dec 92 06:48:23 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <92344.30823.L695819@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> L695819@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
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<Subject: Re: DS9 on KBHK, San Francisco
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<danwood@netcom.com (Daniel J Wood) writes:
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<>Has anybody ever tried convincing KBHK (or, for that matter, _any_ local
<>station) to go *stereo* sound?
<
<A Fox affiliate?  Seems that all the Fox affiliates I've lived near are
<too cheap to actually broadcast in stereo, IMHO, of course.

The only station in Madison, WI, that isn't in stereo is the ABC station.
The Fox station is definately in stereo.
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From: wchen@beirut.berkeley.edu (William Chen)
Subject: Re: 'Batman" meets 'Trek'
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:36:57 GMT

In article <1fsdp9INNlcp@bigboote.WPI.EDU> firenza@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins) writes:
>In article <Byttoy.1IA@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell) writes:
>>In article <ByrAsG.F0L@news.iastate.edu> techy@iastate.edu (Troy A. Rutter) writes:
>>>I was watching Batman the Animated Series today... and
>>>to my surprise.. one of the characters knew the Klingon proverb that
>>>Revenge is a dish best served cold.
>>>
>>
>>Actually it is Shakespeare.
>


In it's original Klingon of course :-)

William
From: dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9 in Stereo
Date: 11 Dec 1992 20:43:24 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpdstma.ptp.hp.com

In article <1992Dec11.030126.11607@pixar.com>, Bruce@Pixar.com (Bruce Perens) writes:
|> 
|> KBHK used to run the First-Run episodes on Saturday in Stereo, and
|> the reruns of previous seasons during the week in monaural.

You're mistaken, Bruce. KBHK has, as of yet, never broadcast ANYTHING in
stereo, ever; they do not have the necessary equipement to do so.

|> Is TV stereo like broadcast FM in that
|> it sounds _lower_ on a mono receiver when you broadcast in stereo?

MTS functions in very much the same way as FM stereo -- there are two
multiplexed signals sent, one the sum of the left and right channels (this
is mono), and the other the difference signal of the two L&R channels.
However, the "level" of the sound is not really "lower" when you switch
your reciever from stereo to mono when listening to FM -- the sound level
is basically the same. The reason you percieve this is a psychoacoustic
phenomenon... The absense of stereo acoustic cues removes the spatial
extent of the signal, and your brain interprets that as being less loud,
among other things.

Just to be clear, KBHK is not now, and has never broadcast anything in
stereo. Starting in January, KBHK will be going on-line with new broadcast
equipment that is MTS capable, so we should start to get stereo broadcasts
around then.

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From: scheetz@watson.bms.com (Christopher Scheetz)
Subject: RE: Captain's Yacht
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:40:00 GMT


Yes, it's spelled Captain's Yacht but, it's pronounced Throat-Wobbler-Mangrove!

Sorry, wrong series.
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From: gestes@regan.next.nd.edu (gregory estes)
Subject: Re: Klingon origins
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:24:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.073323.5066@news.vanderbilt.edu>  
GORDONKA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu () writes:
>    Actually, I seem to remember reading somewhere (either one of the  
Star
> Trek novels or the ST:TNG tech manualthat the reason that Klingons look
> different in the present show as opposed to their faintly oriental "fu 
> manchu" look of the original is that during the time period between the  
two
> eras, the more aggressive, present-day race of Klingons came into power  
on
> the Klingon home world and thus affected the gene pool, as it were, all  
but
> eliminating the previous race of Klingons through a generation of  
breeding.

	Actually, what I had read about this stated that the old Klingons  
were actually surgically altered so as to bear a likeness to humans. Sort  
of a way to throw off the humans. You know those darned Klingons used to  
be a very villainous group of people. Of course, I can already think of  
several things wrong with this notion too. 	
	Another question I had was about the way old the old Klingons  
acted as compared to the ones in TNG. In the original series, they  
Klingons were much more sniveling (Trouble with Tribbles). Now, they are a  
race bound together by a code of brutal honor. I dunno, maybe this is the  
impression I get because Worf attempts to exemplify this, but other  
Klingons are still the same as the old ones. Can anyone explain this to a  
Klingonally(?) illiterate individual?

					Greg
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Troi is capable of wearing a uniform (SPOILERS)
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:46:39 GMT
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In the first part of the two-part intro to Deep Space Nine, the new  
captain in control of the Enterprise says that he wants her to wear a  
uniform.  Not a specific style of uniform, a uniform.  As if to say  
that she hadn't been wearing one all along and that she is now being  
told to wear one.  Out of all the obviously mean orders the new capt.  
has given, this is the only one I wished had been given on the first  
episode.

Troi wearing a uniform while on duty?  Gee, who'd ever guess that?   
It's not like she's special or something.  She's a member of the crew  
(even had to take acting control of the ship when it was just her, Ro  
and O'Brien) and therefore she should have been wearing one all along.

To answer a few lame rebuttals before they begin:

Rebuttal: But she's the ship's counselor!  And she has empathic powers!
Response: So?  Why does that mean that she doesn't wear a uniform like  
all the rest of the crew wear?

Rebuttal: She wears that so people can more easily see her breasts.
Response: What part do her breasts have in the show?

Rebuttal: She wore one when she was some years older.
Response: And up to this show, that fact really helped in interpreting  
the show as both agist and sexist; very much saying that older women  
officers are less attractive so they'd better wear a uniform to cover  
their unsightly breasts.

Maybe she'll get with the rest of the ship and wear a uniform from now  
on.

Rebuttal: Gee, I hope not.  I really like her in that skimpy  
two-sizes-too-small thing.
Response: When you grow up, you'll realize that that caricature of a  
woman is not only degrading but extremely inaccurate as well.
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From: tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain)
Subject: Re: do we need rec.arts.startrek.dsn?
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:00:17 GMT

hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:

: Greg> == Greg Pallenik <gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu> 

:  Greg> This newsgroup is becomminh cluttered with discussion of Deep
:  Greg> Space Nine.  I'm not complaining, but IMHO I think a separate
:  Greg> group will be needed to keep things organized.  Does anyone else
:  Greg> agree or disagree?

: Disagree. "rec.arts.startrek.current" was created so there wouldn't be a
: "tos" and "tng" group. "current" covers "tos" movies as well as "tng". I

This is true.  However, if there were a group for TOS, TNG, DSN it
would be easier to manage the reading of all of it.  For example, if a
group for TOS existed I probably wouldn't subscribe to it.  For me TOS
is the epitome of boredom.  It's not that I don't like it, but more
that I'm tired of watching it.  So I'd rather not hear it rehashed
again and again ....

: don't see why dsn shouldn't fall under "current". Perhaps tags on message

Well my reasoning is this.  If I don't read news once an hour the
amount of news in this group gets out of hand.  Consequently I'm sure
I miss things I'd rather read!  And it's not a matter of laziness.
It's really just a matter of I have other things to do besides read
news all day.

I vote for a separate group/s.  However, I also think there should be
a brief trial period to be sure the new show is around a few months
later. 

--tom
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: The Borg
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:07:51 GMT

hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>> Does anyone out there like the Borg?
>> I personally find them to be a very interesting idea for a society.
>> I also like them.

>You are also a very boring and stupid person and you will be stimulated.

like or dislike of the Borg is irrelavant. Stupidity is futile. Boring
is futile. You will be assimilated.

			CtB
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From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Flame wars? Questions? READ! Respond!
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:00:00 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


Okay why cant you go warp backwards?
And why hasn't wesley tried it?
If they are almost light speed is the lighting screwed up?
What is the issue about klingons and aids really about got me lost!
Can the Enterprise fly upside down?
Which is better the Feds phasers or the Klingon topedos?
How fast can a shuttle go? Never seen one really peel out!
Is Wesley Crusher ready for a captain's position? 
I say NO! He is way too young and too lucky...
What was the most stupidest show yet on STNG?????? (hard to say?)
Was it me or did Warf look fat in black on the last show? (pauch)
HOW MANY PEOPLE REALLY LIKE TROI AND JELICO??????
please respond!
Why are there any real homosexual crew members... did the gays die out in the
future or is it a writer thing???? JUST WONDERING!

To start a flame war....

Geeze did you see George Lucas made this show?
Jean Rodentberry ... worst spelling!
How long have Troi and Riker been married? (ack!)
Trek blows get a life! (flame war past starter!)
Troi has a very small of a butt! (puts people in shock!)
Isn't silly how Data pulls on his shirt to tuck it in? (BIG error!)
I love Picards blond hair! (SCREAM! I HONESTLY heard that once!)
I wonder if Data has private hairs? (I  nearly puked when the girl said it!)
The biggest one yet............................

drumroll

So when are Wesley and Dr. Crusher getting married? 
(oh my incest on STNG! that would be weird whats the responces?)

What a flame war that would be!

signed,
Not A Fed
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From: helene@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Helene Blankespoor)
Subject: Re: Lwaxana - Who plays her?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:06:09 GMT

In article <92353.140742MCGLONE@auvm.american.edu> <MCGLONE@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>I am sorry if there is a better place to find out this info, but I
>am fairly new to the net, and I didn't see anyhting in the FAQ lists
>in here or in rec.arts.startrek.info.
>
>Please settle a bet - who plays Lwaxana Troi?
>
>A friend claims this is Gene Roddenbury's wife who plays the computer
>voice now and used to be the nurse on the original series.  I claim
>it is someone different.  Dinner is riding on this one!

I have also heard the same thing your friends is claiming, Roddenberry's wife
played nurse Chapel in TOS, and is the computer voice in TNG. 

Helene.
From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Future seasons of TNG
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:33:23 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha


Okay, has anyone heard any OFFICIAL about the future of TNG?  There are
those who say that it is going to continue...I've heard that this is the last
season and movies are to follow..maybe.  Someone I know INSISTS and continues
to persist on that notion and there will be a 7th season and an 8th.  Is this
true?   I don't believe him, but then I could be wrong.  Could anyone confirm
or deny this little mystery?  Thanks!

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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: AIDS and Klingons
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:12:09 GMT

mike@nttor.uucp (Mike Hollander) writes:

>In article <9212101033.49@rgm.com> cnk@rgm.com (Claims No Knowledge) writes:
>>Anyway, I wouldn't mind AIDS being addressed on one episode, but not in the
>>storyline mentioned.  I would rather see Beverly talking to someone regarding
>>some new deadly disease and offhandedly remark how AIDS was taken care of, and 
>>relate it to the plot somehow.  

>Beverly should also mention how AIDS grew and grew in scope (# of
>people affected) until it wiped out nearly half the heterosexual
>population, primarily because heterosexuals believed it was a
>homosexual disease. Oh yes, and about 75% of the teenage 
>population because the adults wouldn't allow condoms in the
>schools due to silly puritanical concerns.

	I'm so glad you wrote that. This is EXACTLY the reason something like
this SHOULDN'T be done. You're here stating that condoms should be allowed
in schools, and there's people like myself who say that's stupid. You're
going to be saying to them that Premarital Sex is okay. Why not teach them
about abstance which is a 1000 times safer than a condom. And now we're
completely off the subject. This is why entertainment should stick with
entertainment.

					CtB


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From: aewright@unix.amherst.edu (Anthony E. Wright)
Subject: Ferengi History question
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:09:33 GMT

A question about the Federation's history with the Ferengi, especially
the first contact.

One episode actually shows the first visual contact with Ferengi. The show
was in the first season, and it was there that Data was talking about all the
conflicitng information they had on the Ferengi, and the only thing they
really knew was their motto was "Let the Buyer Beware." They claim to know
nothing of their technology, they seem to know nothing of the ship until they
first sighted it.

However, later episodes call this episode into question. Apparently, Picard had
had first contact with the Ferengi previously, when commanding the Stargazer.
Apparently, this is when the "Picard Manuever" was created, and Picard blew
up the Ferengi ship, since it started firing on the Stargazer first. Picard was
supposedly court-martialed for this action, but let go.

This would seem to be a fairly serious continuity problem. When does the
Federation have first contact with the Ferengi? When does Picard? How did
Picard blow up a ship that he didn't even see? And finally, if we just got
introduced to this race, how come they are all over the place now? Anybody
got any definitive answers?

					Peace,
					Anthony

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From: rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (R Andrew Hayden)
Subject: Re: Who is Ronny Cox?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:20:59 GMT

caina@merrimack.edu writes:

>In article <1gqa7pINNd58@agate.berkeley.edu>, ghelf@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;RD48) writes:

>  Don't forget he played the President of the United States in the  
>movie "Captain America"(which was never released, but somehow has managed
>its way to local video stores)

Thank God it was never released.  It was a very very very very very bad
movie, although I do think that Ronny Cox did an admirable job as the
president, dispite a poor script, worse actors, and a gennerally crappy
premise.

Cox is a wonderful actor playing both good guys and bad guys and I've long
had a lot of respect for his acting abilities.

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From: andrew.nipperess@f605.n712.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Andrew Nipperess)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: peter gabriel a fere
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 09 Dec 92 22:55:04 GMT

Original to: Huffnagl@Sunfish.Rutgers
-On the day of 11-19-92, Ralph Huffnagle spoke unto All, and he did sayeth-

 Hu> huffnagl@sunfish.rutgers.edu (ralph huffnagle), via Kralizec
 Hu> 3:713/602 
 Hu> Watching the MTV video awards, I saw Dana Carvey introducing Peter
 Hu> Gabriel and Annie Lennox as two people who were going to play Ferengi
 Hu> lovers in the upcoming season of Star Trek:TNG. Has anyone else heard
 Hu> this or was it just a bad joke?

 Hu> I also heard Arnold Schwarzenager was to also be on this season?
 Hu> "Hasta la vista, Picard."

Would Arnie be a Borg or a Klingon?

No, probably not Klingon- they're wimps.

How about "Kindergarten Borg"?


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From: coop7z52@bnr.ca (Rahim Pira)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: How do you start a flame war? Glad you asked ...
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:04:16 GMT
Reply-To: coop7z52@bnr.ca (Rahim Pira)
Distribution: na
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.


	Take it easy guy! I think the person *knows* the correct spelling but is simply pretending not to so that people like you will start another flame war over the subject (as if we need another!!).

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From: bwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com (Bev Woolf - Sysop)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Who is Ronny Cox
Date: 20 Dec 92 14:32:24 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-woolf] The Woolf's Den BBS

Ronny Cox was also in a series a long time ago called 'Apple's Way' and he
was in the movie 'Deliverance'.  He wrote the song 'Dueling Banjos' that
was used in that movie.

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From: Edward_Lee_Whiteside@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Promos for: CHAIN OF COMMAND Pt.2 (#237) +DSN Promo DURING
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 11:29:46 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

As an additional note, the ST:Ds9 promo airs as a commercial DURING the 
episode, so it should be seen in most of the country.  So don't be as quick
with the pause button for this one (its about midway through the episode).
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From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius)
Subject: Re: Beverly heats up... *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:29:41 GMT

Here's a theory (not offered in total seriousness) covering this ground...

In the episode "Menage a Troi" (where Ferengi kidnap Troi and her mom to
use as concubines), Lwaxana attempts to seduce the Daimon by stroking his
ears (highly erogenous zones in the species, according to the Daimon) and
stimulating what the Ferengi call 'umaats' (read: hard-on or similar).

It is my sincere belief that Beverly's induction of umaats in the Ferengi
trader (notice she WAS stroking his ears) caused him to undergo sensory
deprivation, to the extent that he completely forgot about WHO it was that
was stroking his ears.  All he heard was a soothing voice... and a slow
hand...

Of course, had there been a chance loud noise or some similar happening
sufficient to distract the Ferengi, he might have looked over and seen
Beverly for what she actually looked like -- the strain of being sexually
stimulated by such a creature would probably have killed him on the spot,
and the same goals would not have been achieved, and Picard would not have
been captured.  

So I think the horny Doctor got more than she was asking for.

* * * * * * * * *

Marius
ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc

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did I mention .edu?

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