HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sci30139@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN CHYE HEE)
Subject: Re: Wiz7: Problem combining flowers for Xen Xheng
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:50:55 GMT

Alex Wai (awai@minotaur.UWaterloo.ca) wrote:
: Hi,
: 
: I've found the five flowers and got Xen Xheng's note, but I can't combine  
: the flowers properly. I can merge the two sets of two flowers and then  
: merge these together to make the ambrosia (or something like that), but I  
: can't combine the last flower to make anything.
: 
: What am I doing wrong?
: 
: Thanks,
: 
: Alex
: 

--

You will need holy water from New City.


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			Gilbert Tan Chye Hee
		      sci30139@nusunix1.nus.sg
From: ip001b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Ivan Pulleyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: DUNE II for Trade
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:15:40 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)


Hi Everyone,
	I have a copy of Dune II to trade.  I was hoping to get WCII. 
Please E-mail me with offers.
	Thanks,
	Ivan.........

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From: barnesrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Richard D. Barnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Help:MM4-Clouds of Xeen
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:31:28 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


     I have completed MM4 as well; reached End Game. As I recall, the Kings
  brother? went to the darkside and took two keys and a stone with him.
  These seem to be the ones needed to enter the remaining dungeons/towers.
  Hopefully the Amulet for the Southern Sphinx is in one of them.

     As to entering the Darkside, that is MM5 which is not available yet.
  When you buy and install this then the pyramid teleporters will work; ie.
  the moons will be in alignment.

     Personally, I can't wait to see what the Darkside holds.

                                                      Rick

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From: towel@elcsci.com (Big Wilber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Empire: What is it?
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:29:50 GMT
Organization: Electro Scientific Industries, Portland OR

In article <quan.727652532@sol>, quan@sol.surv.utas.edu.au (Stephen Quan) writes:
> stevem@solbourne.com (Stephen Matson) writes:
> 
>> I keep hearing about a game called Empire. It seems that it might be a 
>>good game from what I hear. I am however unaware as to what it is. Could
>>someone hear post or e-mail me a brief rundown as to what Empire is? Is 
>>it space based or planet based?
> 
> I think everybody has been referring to a game that I've always known as
> Galactic Empire [played it on an Apple II many years ago].  Games nowadays
> seem to lack the original lust that this game had, although it was quite
> simple.

nope. everyone is refering to: Empire: wargame of the century

an abstract land/sea/air global conquest game.

it's one of the most addictive games around (like Civilization)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,rec.games.misc
From: waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg)
Subject: Re: Stratego
Keywords: IBM P.C., Stratego board game
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:13:21 GMT

In article <C1EEFD.Fq2@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, gjbertin@cayley.uwaterloo.ca () writes:
|> 
|> From snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca!tbertin Sun Jan 24 20:46:20 1993
|> Received: from snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca ([131.104.48.1]) by descartes.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <247626-2>; Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:46:08 -0500
|> Received: from ov.cis.uoguelph.ca by snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (5.64/1.35)
|> 	id AA14920; Sun, 24 Jan 93 08:05:55 GMT
|> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:05:54 -0500
|> Message-Id: <9301240805.AA14920@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca>
|> Received: by ov.cis.uoguelph.ca.cis.uoguelph.ca (5.61/4.7)
|> 	id AA12120; Sun, 24 Jan 93 03:06:06 -0500
|> From: tbertin@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
|> To: gjbertin@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
|> Status: R
|> 
|> To anyone in the know:  Has anyone ever heard of the board game
|>                         "Stratego"?  It is a lot like chess only
|>                         its pieces have actual naval ranks...
|> 
|>                         If you have seen a P.D. version around
|>                         for the IBM P.C. and not X-Windows, please
|>                         respond to:
|> 
|>                         "tbertin@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca"
|> 
|> Thanx in advance,
|> tbertin
|> **********************************************************************
|> * Tom Bertin - University of Guelph    * "Cheer up!  It could always *
|> *              Guelph, Ontario         *  be worse; it could be      *
|> *              CANADA                  *  written in COBOL!"         *
|> *                                      *                             *
|> *                                      *  - Bertin's Law of Bygone   *
|> * tbertin@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca     *           Ordeals           *
|> **********************************************************************
|> 

I've seen a version of stratego from Accolade. It is in 640x480 VGA, 16 colors
and looks very good. You can choose from different boards and pieces and can be
controlled by mouse. It is not PD, but I think it is not expensive, since it is
already a few years old.

Greetz,

Jerry

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: ctoth@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher M Toth)
Subject: UW II Help! Ethereal Void??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:41:32 GMT


	I have a straight forward question for all who have been through
the Ethereal Void...how did you do it?? I have been through all realms of
colour, red, blue, purple, yellow, and white. I even went through that wierd
stick-figure world...yet, I can't find ANYTHING...I have seen the Shrine of
Spirituality many a times...but I can't get there...Am I doing something
wrong? I am doing the colours in order?

Thanks in advace...detailed spoilers please..:)


 


-- 
Christopher M. Toth             | "... We travel in the dark of a new moon
The Ohio State University       | A starry highway traced on the map of the sky
Columbus State                  | Like lovers and heroes,
CIS/History/Classics/ect..Major | Lonely as the eagle's cry..." -Peart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: benyob@vccsouth28.its.rpi.edu.its1 (Brett R. Benyo)
Subject: Re: WIZ 7 - I want POWER STRIKE
Reply-To: benyob@vccsouth28.its.rpi.edu.its1
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:08:12 GMT

In article 1jncv5INNcot@manuel.anu.edu.au, ors101@page.anu.edu.au (Robert John Orsi) writes:
>
>I'm up to the Dragon cave and as yet have not found where I can acquire the
>power strike skill. Can anyone help?


	I got the Power Strike Skill from using the special power of
some Item that i found in Munk-O-Rama.  Can't remember the name of the
item though.  It only gives you a skill of 5.  



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"He's old enough to know what's right, and young enough not to choose it"
						-RUSH, New World Man

Brett Benyo    Email - benyob@rpi.rpi.edu

"Those who can do, those who can't use an Apple Macintosh"
					        - Me
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From: masset@gla.ecoledoc.ibp.fr ()
Subject: Stuck in gobliins 2
Reply-To: masset@gla.ecoledoc.ibp.fr ()
Organization: Universite Paris VI/Paris VII
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:46:31 GMT

Hi,

How can we get the sword from the goblin in the castle?????

I think I need it to give to the blacksmith.


			Joel

			masset@gla.ecoledoc.ibp.fr
From: D.Morgan@bradford.ac.uk (D MORGAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: UW2: Mages Academy Vault
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:29:12 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92191459@muser

Spoilers II

>Walk again through one of the walls of the hidden room (straight
>ahead of the other one, I think).  There should be nothing there.
>But... 


>SPOILERS:




>









>Use the middle of the room's floor.  It should say you find a hidden
>pit or something, plus you now have access to lots of runes!

>Arghh...  where is the basilisk oil?  I couldn't find it.  I must
>be stupid or something, but it doesn't seem to be there.

>Steven

Dont worry about it; if you have checked everywhere, and had no luck,
smashed open the chest and still not found it, then try the clear potions.

Most of the clear potions I have seem to be basilisk oil for some reason. 
God only knows where I got the things from. Probably some second hand store...

Did you pick up a clear potion in there, and think it just a mana potion?
that could be why.
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|fat chance  |TO EB OR NOT TO EB.\what is that wiggly line just to the left|
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North)
Subject: MS-DOS Games for Sale or Trade
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:24:11 GMT

I have the following MS-DOS games available for sale or trade. 

Prices do not include shipping -- add $3. I ship via US Postal
Service, Priority Mail. See the bottom of this post for more details.

Rise of the Dragon (VGA)........................................$17
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (VGA)........................$17
Heart of China (VGA)............................................$17
Maniac Mansion (EGA)............................................$12
Leisure Suit Larry II (EGA).....................................$12
Hard Nova (VGA).................................................$12
Codename: Iceman (EGA)..........................................$12
Dick Tracy Crime-Solving Adventure (VGA/16).....................$12
Santa Paravia....................................................$7
Grave Yardage....................................................$7
Artic Fox........................................................$7
Transylvania.....................................................$7
Stephen King's THE MIST..........................................$7
Zork III.........................................................$7
The Scoop........................................................$7


SALES: 
First, send me email to let me know what game you want. I'll reply and
confirm whether or not the game is still available, and if it is, I'll
send you my address. You send a check or money order, and once I
receive that, I mail your game out.

TRADES: 
Name your deal. I'm interested in: Quest for Glory I or III (VGA),
Secret Missions for Wing Commander II, Gateway, Out of this World,
Alone in the Dark, Lost Treasures of Infocom (Volume I).

-- Alexandria
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:33230 rec.games.misc:19388
From: harmonix@stein.u.washington.edu (Chaz Stevens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,rec.games.misc
Subject: SimCity Terrain Editor
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:33:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1k4hneINNgtl
Distribution: world
Organization: Organization? We don't need no steenking Organization.
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu


	I have seen a non-Maxis terrain editor for the IBM-PC version
of SimCity, but I have lost track of it.  Does anyone know about this
program?  Has anyone seen it?  I'd would like to get a copy of it, if
anyone knows where to get it (anonymous FTP, InterNet E-Mail, etc.).
Thank you!


-- 
Chaz Stevens                                      Call the Neutral Zone BBS!
harmonix@u.washington.edu                          (206) 527-9049, 24 hours!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: rmg53668@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ryan M. Grant)
Subject: Re: VGA Planets...??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:23:37 GMT
Keywords: VGA


Host:           ftp.ucsc.edu
Directory:      PC/vgaplanets-2.1
Files:          hello.txt install.exe readme.txt vendor.doc
                vgapl211.exe vgapl212.exe

You need all the exe files, then run install.
If you just want to know what it's about, hello.txt is a brief intro.

- Ryan Grant
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: ggeorge@bilbo.encore.com (Greg George)
Subject: Re: LLAMATRON 'i hate those raindrops and lasers!' (semi-spoilers)
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:26:02 GMT

Can someone please tell me where to find this game on the net?
I have looked it up on archie, but it says that it is only
available for the Amiga!

thanks!

greg
From: mcm1332@tamsun.tamu.edu (Michael C. Mortimer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: UW 2 : Ending
Date: 23 Jan 1993 15:26:29 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

This goes out to anyone who has finished the game.
I'm at the end w/ all necessary components except the one
from Mors Gotha because I cant seem to find her.  I think
it may have to do because I crashed Killorn into the ground.
Does anyone know where she should be, or if you can finish 
it w/ Killorn destroyed?
From: steve.romig@gate.micromed.com (Steve Romig) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Quest for Glory III:  Wag
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:41:00 GMT
Reply-To: steve.romig@gate.micromed.com (Steve Romig) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Micro-Medic Network Gateway - +1 408 280-1610 - Public access BBS

Rohit -

I never used the tinder box to make a fire even though the game told me
too.  I couldn't figure out how to do it and neither could a friend of
mine.  I assume you can't.

As for the village...take your time.  By the sounds of it you haven't
done enough to "make it appear".  If you have played Sierra games in the
past you know that "one thing leads to another."  You will be lead to
the village when the time comes.  Don't stress.

Steve
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From: bkpipa@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN KEITH PIPA)
Subject: Re: Metal Mutant
Originator: bkpipa@c00523-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bkpipa@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN KEITH PIPA)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:43:29 GMT


> Anybody out there in net.game land ever heard of this game?  I had some free
>time one day and found this one and decided to play it because it looked
>interesting.  It's a pretty cool kind of game (to me at least) except that
>most of the game test is in french.  I have no problem with this if I knew
>the language.  Anybody know if there is maybe a switch to get this in english,
>or really, anybody know of any docs for it at all.

>Thanks,
>  Ed

So where did you get it (so I can try it too).

-- 
| Brian Pipa              |
| bkpipa@eos.ncsu.edu     |   
| NCSU - Raleigh, NC USA  |   
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: carlson@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Carlson)
Subject: Re: any help for civ. out there
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:43:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.183706.10155@iscsvax.uni.edu> hulscher4906@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Can anyone tell me how to make scientists or tax collectors in civilisation?
>what is needed in tech. pop. and likewise
>thanx

This is explained clearly at the bottom of pg. 72 in the manual.

				David
			(carlson@ucunix.san.uc.edu)
From: d2henan@dtek.chalmers.se (Andreas Henning)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: 3DBENCH.ZIP uploaded
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:53:48 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

dmsilev@athena.mit.edu (Daniel M Silevitch) writes:

>>>486/33 ET4000-based Local Bus (no-name):	26.6 FPS
>>386/40 with 16-bit ET4000 card                  16.3
>486DX/50 w/ ET4000 ISA card (8 bit)             28.3
486DX/33 w/ Paradise PVGA1B 16bit                 16.9

How come the big difference between Paradise/Tseng?
Is the ET4000 really that much faster?

Andreas Henning -- d2henan@dtek.chalmers.se
Student of Computer Science at Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden
"Why stop now, just when I'm hating it?" - Marvin The Paranoid Android
From: cash@calvin.ee.udel.edu (Jason Scott Cash)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: 3dbench results (was Re: 3DBENCH.ZIP uploaded)
Keywords: VGA, 3dbench, fast, zoom-zoom
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:13:13 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

>>3dbench results:
>
>>>486/33 ET4000-based Local Bus (no-name):			26.6 FPS
>>>
>>>386/40 with 16-bit ET4000 card				16.3 FPS
>>>
>>>486DX2/50, 0k L2 cache, Diamond SS24X ISA 16-bit:		24.3 FPS
>>>
>>>386DX/33 with 128k cache, Trident-9000 card			10.6 FPS
>>>
>>>486DX2/66 with 256k cache, VESA local bus Cirrus Logic card	43.4 FPS
>
>>8088 with 8-bit ATI Integra (16-bit, 8-bit slot) ;)		 0.5 FPS
>
>386-25 w/ 512k Western Digital-Paradis VGA & Software cache:     7.4 FPS
>
486DX@/50 0k , VLB Zeos NCR77C22E+                                33.3 FPS


/*  Jason S. Cash          Computer & Information Science 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Ting)
Subject: Re: 3DBENCH.ZIP uploaded
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:15:30 GMT

<CTIRABAS@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:

>Somebody's else results:

><kdorff@NMSU/Edu> writes:

>>On my 386DX/25 with no cache memory and an ATI-VGA WONDER-16 video
>>card I get 5.6 FPS.
>>
>>Kevin

Noooo..... my Trident is faster than an ATi Wonder???? I got 7.8 FPS
on my 386DX-25 without cache with the Trident 8900C.... Something is
definitely amiss here...


>Cesare

>Email: ctirabas@estec.estec.esa.nl
>    or ctirabas@estec.bitnet
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From: elliott@oliafd.shel.isc-br.com (Elliott Kleinrock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: ***** Proposed RFD: c.s.i.p.g reorganization -- please examine
Keywords: RFD split group
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:53:39 GMT
Organization: Olivetti Advanced Finance Development

In article <rdippold.728000794@qualcom> rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>kamg@ecf.toronto.edu (KAM GREGORY K) writes:
>>We definitely need a games.marketplace!!!!

>it's not that much traffic, and it's one of the few subdivisions in
>which people are actually pretty good about putting "sale" or "for
>sale" in the header.

But if they have games in several catagories, they will have to crosspost.
	- Elliott

	elliott@oliafd.shel.isc-br.com
	...!{ philabs | yale | oliveb | decvax | iscuva }!oliafd!elliott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: Q10256@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Rob Marchant)
Subject: Re: 57 Star Trek 25th Aniversary game (IBM version)
Organization: Motorola
Date: 22 Jan 1993 07:19:05 CST

Bunch of stuff deleted.

My son has the hint book and is able to beat just about
all the levels.  So I guess the answer is yes it is
worht it.

Rob
From: randall-joshua@yale.edu (Joshua E. Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: MISC: Split Poll, '.adventure' and '.rpg'
Date: 26 Jan 1993 20:22:44 -0500
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In an effort to find out if there is a significant overlap
between potential readers of an Adventure games newsgroup
and potential readers of a Role-Playing games newsgroup, I
am conducting a poll.

The questions are:

(1)  Would you read c.s.i.p.g.adventure, if it were created?

(2)  Would you read c.s.i.p.g.rpg, if it were created?

To respond to this poll send E-mail to
"randall-joshua@yale.edu" with the word "split" in the
subject line, or just reply to this message and edit out
everything except the questions (and your answers, of
course).

My thanks to those who have already responded.  I will keep
the poll going for a few more days.  If there is significant
overlap I will recommend that only one group be created for
discussion of both games.

I need 100 or more responses to make this poll statistically
accurate.  Your opinion matters!  Please take this time to
answer two "yes or no" questions.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: rcb@ncsu.edu (Randy Buckland)
Subject: Re: 3dbench results (was Re: 3DBENCH.ZIP uploaded)
Organization: NCSU
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:37:35 GMT

k113651@news.cc.tut.fi (Karhu Jouni) writes:

> 3dbench results:
> 486/33 ET4000-based Local Bus (no-name):			26.6 FPS
> 386/40 with 16-bit ET4000 card 				16.3 FPS
> 486DX2/50, 0k L2 cache, Diamond SS24X ISA 16-bit:		24.3 FPS
> 386DX/33 with 128k cache, Trident-9000 card			10.6 FPS
> 486DX2/66 with 256k cache, VESA local bus Cirrus Logic card	43.4 FPS
> 8088 with 8-bit ATI Integra (16-bit, 8-bit slot) ;)		 0.5 FPS
> 80286 IBM PS/2 Model 50 with IBM VGA, I guess                  2.6 FPS
> 
486DX/50, Diamond Stealth					27.4 FPS
SoftPC on a Dec 5000/200					 3.7 FPS
--
Randy Buckland                               "It's hard to work
North Carolina State University               in a group when you're
randy_buckland@ncsu.edu (919) 515-5491        omnipotent"       -- Q
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