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From: jcm+@CS.CMU.EDU (Chris McGlone)
Subject: Re: NEW YORK SKYLINE
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:14:40 GMT


For Midtown, try the rooftop garden at the Metropolitan Museum.  It's a 
different view of NY than you usually see, looking over the greenery of
Central Park.  The Queensboro bridge also works--you can walk out on it--
and it has a good view of the UN, if that interests you.
From: greg@cs.washington.edu (Greg Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: How to see Seattle cheap?
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:52:15 GMT
Organization: Adolph Eichmann's Evil Cake Factory

In article <la4hdiINNl1q@male.EBay.Sun.COM> jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:
>From my visit, I know that the buses are _not_ free in Seattle, except in the
>downtown area, and in some directions, on some routes, at some times of day.

There is a ride-free zone, roughly bounded by the Waterfront, Pioneer
Square, 7th Avenue, and Battery St.  Rides in this area are free from early
morning until 9 pm.  The *only* exception is the Waterfront Streetcar, which
always costs you money.

I may be off on the time and the streets, but the system is not complex.
You can always read the numerous signs posted all over downtown and get 
the exact information.

Note that the Seattle Center (site of the Space Needle, the Science Center,
etc.) is not in the ride-free zone.  As a consequence, the monorail
(Westlake Center to the Seattle Center) is never free.  The bus tunnel is 
in the ride-free zone, so it is always free (but closed after 7pm).

The most confusing part of the bus system is figuring out whether to pay
as you enter or as you leave.  You're supposed to pay as you enter if
you're heading downtown, and as you leave if you're heading away from
downtown, but on some routes, 'to' and 'from' downtown is difficult to
determine.  Just look at the little sign on the farebox as you enter.
It will say 'pay as you enter', 'pay as you leave', or 'ride-free zone'.
Note, however, that if it says 'ride-free zone', you may still have to pay
as you leave if you get off out of the ride-free zone.

My advice:  on weekends and holidays, buy an all-day pass ($1.50?) and 
save yourself some hassle.  On weekdays, make sure to get a transfer when 
you pay, since it's basically a 2-hour free pass to the bus system.  You 
can travel somewhere and use your transfer to get back for free if you 
don't spend too much time there.

			Greg Barnes
			greg@cs.washington.edu
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From: au021@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roland Behunin)
Subject: Re: Navigating voice-mail from France
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 03:11:58 GMT


I beleive Radio Shack sells a touch tome generateor taht can
be used with any phone anywhere.
-- 
ddn:          behunin@oodis01.af.mil
internet:     behunin@logdis1.oo.aflc.mil  au021@cleveland.freenet.edu
              behunin@ftp.nevada.edu
bitnet:       behunin@UMASS
From: chua@hpsgwp.sgp.hp.com (Justin Chua)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 05:09:24 GMT
Subject: Yosemite in September (info needed)
Organization: HP Singapore IC Design Ctr
Newsgroups: rec.travel

Hi there,

I am going to Bay area in mid-Sept and would like to visit Yosemite this
time. I wonder if I can still get a motel room in the Park or nearby easily?
I hope the peak season in over. I am only planning for a 2-day visit. 
Anything I should not miss? I do not plan to camp there. Thank in advance.

Regards,
Justin Chua
From: hrvoje@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Hecimovic)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: cheap overnight stay in London
Keywords: London
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:41:39 GMT
Distribution: rec.travel
Organization: Edinburgh University


Hello, could somebody give me an address where to spend one night in
London. I'll need to go to US Embassy, which is near Hyde Park. Youth
Hostels also appreciated.
Thanks very much, Hrvoje
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Bicycles and London (UK) tube system
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 05:38:15 GMT

> > I will be arriving at Heathrow airport in the next few weeks
> > with my bicycle.  Can I take it on the tube?  Are there time-restrictions
> > for having the bike on the tube?

> Cycles are only permitted on the tube between stations that are above
> ground or have stair access. ...  If you are coming into Central London
> from Heathrow you will be taking the Piccadilly Line, so you could get
> quite a long way in as the line is above ground ...

Unfortunately, both stations at Heathrow itself are underground!

When the query came up, I didn't believe the earlier response about
"lines that are not entirely underground", not least because only one
line of the Underground *is* entirely underground.  So I asked Clive
Feather, a very transport-knowledgeable friend in England.  He didn't
know either, but called London Transport (at +44 71 222 1234).

Clive writes:
| The lady at the other end said that the rules are complicated, but gave
| me one example - "on the Piccadilly, you can take bikes from Cockfosters
| to Oakwood, and from Hammersmith westwards, but not all the way to
| Heathrow".  I suggested to her that the distinction was surface stations
| versus tunnel stations, and she said that that seemed plausible - you
| are not allowed to take bikes through Central London.

Note that this does *not* jibe with the previous answer, as some stations
in Central London (i.e., most if not all Circle Line stations) do have 
stair access.  But maybe she meant not through Central London on that
line; or maybe the rules have changed.
 
| She also said that bicycles are forbidden before 10:00 and between
| 16:00 and 19:00 on Mondays to Fridays, and that a child fare must be
| paid for them.

Again, this is slightly different from the earlier answer.

You could, of course, *ride* the bicycle from the airport as far as the
first station where bicycles are allowed -- if you don't have any suitcases
or the like with you!  This would probably be Hatton Cross station, which
is in shallow tunnel and just east of the airport; if not, then Hounslow
West, on the surface a couple of miles farther east.  You could then take
the Piccadilly Line at least as far as Hammersmith, and if desired, the
Hammersmith & City Line (formerly called part of the Metropolitan Line)
would probably be legal from there to Paddington.  Getting farther east
than that would seem to depend on what that "not through Central London"
really meant.
-- 
Mark Brader	"What can be more palpably absurd than the prospect held out
utzoo!sq!msb	 of locomotives travelling twice as fast as stagecoaches?"
msb@sq.com		 -- The Quarterly Review (England), March 1825

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From: u906322@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Graeme Oxley)
Subject: MT BLANC GUIDES-INFO REQUEST
Organization: University of Tasmania (Australia)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:18:43 GMT

	I am interested in finding out information regarding guiding companies
that operate in the Mt Blanc region.  Of interest would possible addresses
of some reputable companies who run guiding expeditions on the Mt
in Winter.  I have no idea of the best way to obtain this sort of info and
 would be appreciative if someone would be able to help in this matter.
 Naturally the relevant details I'd like to find out would be  the cost of 
such an expedition, the skill levels required by the guiding companies,
address of the most professional companies with whom I could deal 
with directly to obtain more exact information.  I am planning such a 
venture for late Jan 1993 early Feb 1993. Do any companies operate at
this time of the year?
                                                I would be most appreciative of any info recieved
regarding this matter. 
											Thanks in climbing
												    Tas Mountaineers... "For Legends and those seeking to achieve
             											such status"
From: duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Parking in/near Venice
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:33:20 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


I'd advise staying in Padova instead of Venice.  You'll save a lot on
hotel costs.  The express train runs once an hour and if I remember
right it takes about half an hour.  In Padova you should be able to
park on the street if you look around.
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From: bree@dvinci.USask.Ca (Michael Bree)
Subject: Seattle Lodging Info Wanted
Summary: Looking for cheap place to stay in Seattle
Keywords: Seattle, Lodging
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:43:15 GMT

My wife has to write an exam in Seattle on 15-16 Sept. The exam is
being held at a place called "Seattle Center, Northwest Rooms Building".

We are planning to drive down from Vancouver.  We are completely
unfamiliar with Seattle, and, both being students, looking for a cheap
place to stay.  Ideally, it would be very close to the examination
site so that she could arrive on time each morning without battling
traffic.

If anyone could suggest a reasonable hotel or motel within walking
distance, I would be very grateful.  Any comments on Seattle Center,
what it is, where it is located, and any suggestions on how to spend
two days (with two young children) would also be appreciated.

Thank you.
--
Michael Bree              Dept. of Electrical Engineering
bree@dvinci.usask.ca      University of Saskatchewan
(306) 966-5395            Saskatoon, Sask, Canada S7N 0W0
-- 
--
Michael Bree              Dept. of Electrical Engineering
bree@dvinci.usask.ca      University of Saskatchewan
(306) 966-5395            Saskatoon, Sask, Canada S7N 0W0
From: smezias@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Day trips to Mexico from San Diego
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:24:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <37632@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> lerner@jeeves.ucsd.edu (David
Lerner) writes: 

>I know there's got to be lots of things to do and see on day trips to Mexico 
>from San Diego.

I've driven from the Bay Area to Cabo San Lucas and stayed two other
times in Ensenada.  My recollection is that the only things close
enough to be day trips from SD are Tijuana and vacation homes owned by
Americans.  Ensenada is a long trip to go back and forth in one day.
I recommend going there and staying a couple of days.  There is better
shopping than in Tijuana, nicer beaches, and a nice blowhole.  Avoid
going on the weekend when it gets more crowded.
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From: beatriz@dit.upm.es (Beatriz Parra Perez)
Subject: CORK - Info needed
Organization: UUES, Asociacion de Usuarios de UNIX, Spain
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 07:47:53 GMT

	Hello!
	I will move to Cork this October to attend the University
	for a full academic year. I have some information about the
	place and the city but I will be very grateful if someone
	can help me and inform me about any b&b, or if it is difficult
	to find accommodation, what kind of weather should I expect
	in these months, the average temperature...?

h	any information will be very appreciated.
	Thank-you

	beatriz
From: gkn@ucsd.edu (Gerard K. Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Where is Cap d' Agde?
Summary: 43.19 N  3.30 E
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:40:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.17mh18INN8ld
Organization: TGV, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

In article <1992Aug28.190844.17121@infonode.ingr.com> john@earlj.b11.ingr.COM writes:
>Can anyone out there tell me where Cap d'Agde is?  I know it's in France
>on the Med but it's not on my Thomas Cook map.  Is it near Nice or
>Marseille or where?

It's on the Med near Montpellier and Beziers.  Perhaps 200 km from Marseille.


-- 
Gerard K. Newman,  TGV, Inc.  603 Mission St.  Santa Cruz, CA  95060
gkn@tgv.com | 619.591.4717 (voice+fax) | 800.TGV.3440 | 408.427.4366
From: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Bumbershoot in Seattle this weekend
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:49:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep3.054925.22950
Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle


Best place to stay, if you're not a student and want to be
in the middle of Seattle city and waterfront life, is The
Inn at the Market, 206-443-3600.  The Inn is a small, per-
sonable hotel of a couple dozen rooms, excellent if cozy
lobby, fine cafe, and best of all it's but a block away 
from Pike Place Public Market.  You can stay in a motel but
be pretty far out or choose the Four Seasons/Olympic and
blow your wad on breakfast, but the Inn is always great...
call ahead!

Greg is right:  Bumbershoot is lots more than music.  Some
say it's the soul of Seattle....

Bob
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Cheap airfares to Asia
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 04:27:58 GMT


> I have flown KAL many, many times (so many, in fact, that I have place
> settings for 12 of KAL silverware, a relic of my larcenous youth, of
> which -- do not mistake me -- I no longer approve) ...

So put it in a box and mail it back to them.  Sheesh.
-- 
Mark Brader, SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com
	"Have you ever heard [my honesty] questioned?"
	"I never even heard it mentioned."	-- Every Day's a Holiday

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From: riddle@IS.RICE.EDU (Prentiss Riddle)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Bed and breakfasts recommendations in Washington, DC?
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:02:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ministry of Information, William's Marsh

I'm going to be spending a weekend in the DC area soon (in order to
take advantage of a cheap flight before attending the Usenix Security
conference in Baltimore).  I'm looking for inexpensive but enjoyable
accommodations in Washington and have seen the following bed and
breakfasts listed in a couple of guides:

  -- Adams Inn, 1744 Lanier Pl. NW, 20009, 202-745-3600
  
  -- B&B Accomodations of Washington (must be a bureau), 202-363-9533
  
  -- Castlestone Inn, 1918 17th St. NW, 20009, 202-483-4706
  
  -- Embassy Inn, 1627 16 St. NW, 20009, 202-234-7800, 800-423-9111
  
  -- Kalorama Guest House, 1854 Mintwood Pl. NW, 20009, 202-667-6369
  
  -- Kalorama Guest House/Woodley Park, 2700 Cathedral Ave. NW, 20008,
     202-328-0860
  
  -- Meg's Int'l Guest House, 1315 Euclid St. NW, 20009, 202-232-5837
  
  -- Morrison Clark Inn, Mass. & 11th, 20001, 202-898-1200
  
  -- Reeds, c/o B&B Ltd., 20005, 202-328-3510
  
  -- Swiss Inn, 1204 Mass. Ave NW, 20005, 202-371-1816, 800-955-7947
  
  -- Windsor Inn, 1842 16th St. NW, 20009, 202-667-0300, 800-423-9111

Has anyone stayed at any of these who can say something good or bad
about them?  Barring that, is there anyone who knows DC well enough to
say which ones are in good locations for sightseeing, access to public
transportation and safety?  I'm looking for a place which will be
competitive with a chain motel in terms of price but have a bit more
character.  

Please reply by mail and I will summarize if there is interest.  Thank you.

-- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada") riddle@rice.edu
-- Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer.


Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: cmu.misc.parents-network,rec.travel
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:19:16 -0400 
From: "Lynne M. Reder" <lr0e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: vacation with child

Do not go to that Club Med for awhile...that was the only island
in the Bahamas that was badly hit by Hurricane Andrew...

--Lynne

reder@cmu.edu
From: venable@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu (Wallace Venable)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: England: The West Country
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:29:42 GMT
Organization: WVU College of Engineering


>We may be travelling to the UK the first week of December, and
>may head out to Torquay, Bath, Reading for a few days each.  I
>know this is off season, but will the weather be that horrible?

	We have had excellant weather in Britain at the end of December.  
People there said "you were lucky" both times.  
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From: kw@c3.PLA.CA.US (Kang Wang)
Subject: <<< Oakland==>Boston==>Oakland Northwest Airlines Tickets for sale >>>
Organization: C-Cube Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:15:08 GMT

Posted for a friend. Please do not reply to this account.

Three Northwest Airlines round trip tickets for sale:
$220.00 for each ticket
Oakland ===> Boston ===> Oakland

Departure: Oakland (Sept.  5, 7:00am) ===> Boston  (Sept.  5,  5:11pm)
Returning: Boston  (Sept. 12, 6:15am) ===> Oakland (Sept. 12, 11:20am)

One male ticket and two female tickets. You could buy either one, two, 
or three. Please call Patty at (415) 574-4000 ext. 4894 during work hours.
From: Gord_Pope@mindlink.bc.ca (Gord Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Another boring money exchange question
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:54:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: mindlink.14582
Distribution: world
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

My experience this summer in Europe has led me to seriously consider taking
mostly the currency of the country I will be in.  Have Travellers Cheques and
plastic as backup.  Reasons?  The rates I can get here in Canada and the rates
I eventually change for in Europe are not that far appart.  The day I need to
change money, the banks are closed.  There is no ATM in the town you need it to
be in.  The AMEX office tends to have a non-competitive rate.  Your plastic
credit card wont work on that particular ATM.

Since I carry everything in an under the clothes money belt, I have adequate
security and don't have the problems associated with running out of local
currancy at a time when I can't afford to and have no way of replenishing it.

Probably the best arrangement would be to take, say 1 week of currency with you
and then at a convenient time, cash a bundle of TC's.
Gord.
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Sights in South Australia
Keywords: Adelaide Australia travel
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:25:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <4366@equinox.unr.edu> demay@pyramid.unr.edu (Mark DeMay) writes:
>Howdy,
>
>	
>	1. Is Quantis a good airline ?

That's "Qantas" - and as Dustin Hoffman points out in "Rain Man", "Qantas has
never had an accident.  Never."  N.B. They edited that part out of the airline
version of the film.

Regards, Lee
From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: England: The West Country
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:15:39 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

We may be travelling to the UK the first week of December, and
may head out to Torquay, Bath, Reading for a few days each.  I
know this is off season, but will the weather be that horrible?
What time of day is sunset then?  Any not-to-be-missed sites along
the way (we plan also on stopping at Wells, Glastonbury).

	Tnx,
	Dave
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: verna@solbourne.com (Verna Kalinski)
Subject: SF - Pacific Grill?
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:45:09 GMT

Ok it's been 10 years.... is the Pacific Grill (out in the avenues) still in
existence and is it any good?
tks.verna.
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.scuba,rec.travel.air
From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: Re: Florida
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 08:21:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: us

>In article <1992Aug25.030833.12046@panix.com> pkap@panix.com (Peter Kapner) writes:
>
>I'm supposed to be going to the Keys a week from Thursday, and after
>the devastation I've heard about and seen on TV I just can't believe
>that things will be functioning even close to normally.  People's
>homes were utterly flattened and uprooted and the exodus of over a
>million people to the north can't be easily recovered from I'm sure.


Another factor you should consider before rushing off to Florida is
the water itself.  First, the water is probably very stirred up and
cloudy right now; not the usual great visibility.  It will probably
take at least a week to settle down.  Second, there probably is not
much marine life in that area right now.  What was not killed by the
hurricane probably scurried off for safer waters elsewhere.




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan

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From: larsf@tts.lth.se (Lars Falk)
Subject: Re: Info on Sloan House YMCA, NY ?
Organization: Communication Systems, Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:10:41 GMT

In article <la9vptINNds9@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.150449.17101@lth.se>, larsf@tts.lth.se (Lars Falk) writes:
>|> In article <hiew.715429088@wambenger> hiew@cs.uwa.oz.au (HIEW Hong Liang) writes:
>|> >I'm going to visit New York City sometime mid-November, and I'm planning
>|> >to stay at the William Sloan House (YMCA) at 34th St. ...
>
>I remember reading (in the New York Times?) that this place was
>about to close.   Did it get a reprieve?
>
>-- 
>Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Yes it was closed when I was in New York in the beginning of the
summer. Yesterday in my reply to the original posting I was thinking
of McBurney YMCA at 23 street.
______________________________________________________________________________
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Dept of Communication Systems  | HOME PHONE:  +46 40 928224
Lund Institute of Technology   | WORK PHONE:  +46 46 109016
Box 118; S-221 00  LUND; Sweden| TELEFAX:     +46 46 145823
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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: SF Bookstores in London
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:57:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: pruckler@pluto's message of 25 Aug 92 16:04:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.160433.2212@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> pruckler@pluto (Thomas Prueckler) writes:

   I shall be visiting London soon and am looking for wellstocked
   SF-bookshops in (central) London.

The big one is "Forbidden Planet" on Oxford Street.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: hrvoje@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Hecimovic)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Visit sunny Croatia?
Keywords: Croatia Yugoslavia surrealism
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:37:57 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston) writes:


>Looking for something a little different this summer?  Consider
>the balmy beaches of Croatia.  According to a report yesterday on
>Croatian TV (broadcast to cable systems around the U.S. via the
>SCOLA service), beaches are open, tourists are happy, and shelling
>is extremely light.  "It is very nice here," says one sunburned
>German.  "Whiskey and cigarettes are very cheap for us."

I have spent my holidays in Croatia this June. I went to seaside,
to Istria, which is a part of Croatia that borders with Slovenia and
Italy (30 miles away). It is very quiet, that people think the war is
somewhere far away. Everything was cheap, accom. 10 $ (B&B) in hotels,
whith lots of good wine and smoked ham.
Beaches are the most beautiful I've seen and people are very, very nice.
Almost all speak English.
Anyway, Croatia expects its turism to be its most successful "industry",
worth about 2 mil.$/year. In ex-Yugoslavia, 80% of overnight stays took
place in Croatia.

PS If anyone needs more info, please, reply.
Hrvoje
From: cicarell@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:47:22 GMT
Subject: Re: How to see Seattle cheap?
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.