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From: jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper)
Subject: Re: Should I get a second kitten?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:38:25 GMT

It took at least 9 months for Lizzie to get used
to Rapunzel, as I recall.  Once during that period
I had to leave Rapunzel at the vet for a couple of
days, and Lizzie thought she was an only child again.
She positively cavorted!  When I brought 'Punzel home
again, Lizzie was very upset with me!  Also, there
were always "adjustment" periods in their relationship.
For instance, when Lizzie was about 8 and Rapunzel about
5, 'Punz tried to become "top cat".  They had a couple
of rip-roaring good fights in which fur flew, but
then things settled down, and Lizzie resumed her 
rightful place as queen of the house.

(By the way, when I was living with a roommate
who had two cats also, we had the entire political
spectrum among them.  Lizzie was a monarchist, because
she was the boss.  Rapunzel was a Libertarian, because
she just wanted to be left alone. (She was a very shy
cat.)  Sally Hemings was a Republican, because she
looked down her nose on everyone, and Bashful was a
Democrat because she wanted everyone to love her.)
--
Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
"The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
                                           --Carlyle
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What we say; what cats hear
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:03:42 GMT
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
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walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker) writes:
: Our cats OJ and Sock respond very well to "no", no matter whether I yell it
: or say it slowly.  OJ chatters alot at birds, and when he's not chattering
: at him, I only need to say "Git 'em, OJ!" and off he goes for a minute.  
: And at nighttime when we are putting them in the basement, it's a loud
: "yum yum time!" and a shaken Bonkers box to get them to come running.  Also,
: any sound of food dropping into their plastic bowls ( a very distinct sound)
: will get them to come.  OJ knows his name, as he will meow at me when I say
: it, but Socks ignores me when I say his.
: 
No doubt Socks knows his name perfectly well, but chooses to ignore you. How
does Socks react when you call OJ? At my house, Christopher especially will
ignore his name, but if I call one of the others, he immediately wants to
know why I'm calling the other one, but not him. 


Kathy
Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:15:57 -0400 
From: "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Cat Dancer?

I have been hearing all these stories about cats loving "cat dancers". 
What are they and where can I find one?

Susan and Jester

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gittel@nynexst.com (Kathleen Gittel)
Subject: Re: Hartz Blockade???
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 20:19:39 GMT

At one time Hartz used a chemical that killed a 
few cats and since then, I've ceased using all their
products.

Flea collars are usually okay if you open the package and air
out the collar for 24 hours; and then attach it around the cats neck
very loosely.

thy
From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Catherine Stanton)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:05:26 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

After a LOOONG Absence, may I say it's good to be back! :)

To add to this thread, Steve will use his back legs to push my
hand away if I'm rubbing his stomach sometimes.  I think it tickles
him.  I call this "Jackrabbiting".  Course, one day he was lying
next to me in bed and I rolled over and put my nose in his stomach.
Apparently my breathing tickled him cause in his sleep he jackrabbited
my face! Ouch!!!  No permanent scars thankfully...

Also don't know if this one has been mentioned but it IS an officil
"Sniglet".  The action of a cat rearing up it's butt to meet your
hand as you rub along it's back is called "Caltitude" (or Catitude, or
something like that, it's been awhile.)

To Joan: Happy Birthday you Weasel you didn't tell me the other day!
:-(  Next ice cream at Hodgson's is on me! ;-)

To Krissie: Got your letter to Joan, sorry it's been so long. :( I'll
write soon!

And to the owner of Thomasina-the-Cute: My sincerest sympathy and a GREAT
BIG *HUG*.  Stories like yours make me appreciate what I've got even more.
I hope these net hugs are helping.

Cat Stanton
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: fease@dkas.enet.dec.com (Andrea Midtmoen Fease)
Subject: Re: Diabetic cat - travel problems ??
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Marlboro MA
Date: 14 SEP 92 10:14:28    


In article <1992Sep11.234348.26631@riscsm.scripps.edu>, collet@scripps.edu (Thomas Collet) writes...
>I just thought I should let everyone know, who Mr. K is doing -
>he is my cat who just developed diabetes. Well, the initial dose
>has been increased from one times 3 units ultralente to 2 times
>8 units lente, and still plenty of glucose in his urine! He seems, 
>however, stable enough and I hope to get the dose right soon.

Congratulations on making progress with Mr. K's diabetes!  I remember that when
we were stablizing Loki's diabetes, it was very, very trying.  First this
dosage, then that dosage.  Yuck.  But when Mr. K's diabetes is stable like
Loki's, it'll be wonderful!  Just a once-a-week urine test, and the shots will
become routine 8-) .

>Of course there has to be another complication, which is that I am
>moving to Germany soon; this will involve an 11-hour plane flight
>from LA to Frankfurt. Now, how the heck do you provide a cat with
>a litterbox during such a flight? 

Not only a litterbox, but food and water.  That's going to be tough.  You may
ask your vet about suggestions, especially whether Mr. K. should get an insulin
shot before the flight.  If he gets a shot, then doesn't eat, he could go into
a diabetic shock (low glucose) which is life-threatening; better to have too
much glucose in his veins for that trip than too little.  True, the stress of
the trip will bring up his sugar, but I'm not sure if it will bring it up
enough.

>Incidentally, we have two cats,
>but as most people with a diabetic cat know, they drink and urinate 
>about a million times more than a normal cat to get rid of excess
>glucose.

Maybe Mr. K. will be stabilized by then??  Loki, who is stable, has the same
urine output as my normal cats now (something to look forward to 8-) !!).

>Any suggestions? I have considered getting a huge cat carrier, but 
>even then I would not have any way of making sure nothing gets spilled
>during the flight. At the pet store they seem to think that there is
>no way to avoid a huge mess.

Could you perhaps get a large cat carrier, and put a litterbox inside it with
maybe just an inch of litter?  Or maybe newspapers in the litterbox, or an old
(one you don't want again ;^) ) towel?  Something that will absorb the urine? 
Maybe there would be a way to set up a water bottle (like a hamster bottle) so
that he could have water; food could probably wait, depending on what your vet
says via insulin/glucose.  A mild sedative *may* be in order, depending on how
Mr. K. takes travelling.

Best of luck to you, and let us know how you and Mr. K. do!

					- Andrea
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Diabetic cat - travel problems ??
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:07:10 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Sep11.234348.26631@riscsm.scripps.edu>, collet@scripps.edu (Thomas Collet) writes:
How about the ultra-absorbent baby diapers to line the bottom of the travel 
cage?  Maybe with a raised floor with drain holes over the absorbent material??
Or just extra layers of the "stay-dry lining material" (whatever that may
be) instead of floor + drainholes, assuming they sell it?

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Re: why does my kitty do this
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:07:31 GMT

pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith) writes:

>I have a 15 month old kitten named Daisy.  I say kitten cause she still
> acts like one.
>She is a Maine Coon we think and I guess they stay youngsters for some time.

How about 11 years? My Neek is that old and still acts like a kitten.

Lenore Levine
levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: steveg@teal.csn.org (Steve Genoff)
Subject: Re: What we say; what cats hear
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:08:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.170116.9116@auto-trol.com> katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty) writes:
>bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham) writes:
>: in article <1992Sep4.223209.28517@infonode.ingr.com>, maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com (Mike Sorrelle) says:
>: >     What we say to cats:
>: >     What they hear:
>: Actually, that brings up an interesting question:  What do they hear?
>: 
 [...]
>: 
>: So, if you have a cat that understands a multi-syllable word, try just the
>: first syllable of what word, and check the reaction.
>

  Chunky knows what is meant when I say "kitty treat".  His ears perk up,
his irises dilate, and he knows I am about to give him some Bonkers or
something similar.  He does NOT react this way if I just say 'kitty'.
Some would say it's just pavlovian, but i'm sure everyone will agree with
me in saying that this demonstrates cats are intelligent.  (As if there was
 any doubt).



   STeve

-- 
                                                                   Mir na zemlye
Steve Genoff
steveg@csn.org
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From: betty@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Betty Benson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Goodybye Thomasina-the-cute
Date: 6 Sep 92 02:09:47 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

We share your tears and your grief, truly.  Only time can help (a cliche,
I know, but it is a true one).
From: coimay@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu ( LAURA CARRIERE)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming Hurricane Kittens
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:06:08 GMT

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:45:02 GMT

The hurricane kittens all have names now.

The darkest grey kitten is the loudest, so he's Andrew.  The grey kitten
with the white and orange maple leaf is Hazel.  The two greys with white
collars are Betsy and Bob.  The prettiest kitten, grey with white tabby
stripes is Camille.  And the littlest one, the calico, is too little to 
be a hurricane so she's just Augusta.

Their ears opened up yesterday and now they turn towards sound.  They 
can also walk for a few steps, but a light breeze blows them over.

They are definitely getting cuter every day.  (And a good thing too. ;-)

Laura Carriere
From: lcornell@milton.u.washington.edu (Linda Cornell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: I NEED A NAME
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:47:49 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

>> HAS ANYONE ANY *GOOD* SUGGESTIONS FOR A PRETTY GREY AND WHITE
>> KITTEN?
>>
>Nimbus.

I like Nimbus too.  My big grey guy was Merlyn.  There's also Gandalf the
Grey from the Hobbit.  Also, look up Charon in your Thesaurus...there's
some great names for hellish deities ;)!  On the lighter side, there's
Shanti which means Good Luck!

I could probably waste a lot of bandwidth on this topic....probably
because I wish he was mine....but my "girls" barely tolerate each other,
nevermind another interloper!

Linda
Chantilly & Pandora!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: todd@hector.uucp (24102-todd)
Subject: Re: What we say; what cats hear
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:15:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.170116.9116@auto-trol.com> katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty) writes:
>bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham) writes:
>: in article <1992Sep4.223209.28517@infonode.ingr.com>, maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com (Mike Sorrelle) says:
>: 
>: >     What we say to cats:
>: ...
>: >     What they hear:
>: ...
>: 
>: Actually, that brings up an interesting question:  What do they hear?
>: 
>: When I first got Fletch, it didn't take me long to learn that he knew
>: what hungry meant.  After I figured that out, I remembered hearing
>: somewhere that cats only understand the first syllable of any word,
>: so I did an experiment:  I asked Fletch if he was "Well Hung?"
>: He claims that he is. :-)
>: 
>: So, if you have a cat that understands a multi-syllable word, try just the
>: first syllable of what word, and check the reaction.
>
>Christopher's favorite word in the world is "hungry!"  I ask the question 
>"Who's hungry?" before dinner time to set him off on the run for the kitchen.
>However, asking "Who's angry?" gets the identical response - in fact saying
>"Who's..." will usually bring him to attention.
>
>
>Kathy

Smokey responds to three words:  his name, "food", and
"treats".  Especially treats.  No matter where he is in
the house, he'll come running.  But sometimes I think
it's not so much the words but the tone of voice I use that
gets his attention.  "Smokey do you want some treats" is
spoken with a lilt that's similar to "Smokey are you
hungry do you want some food" whereas "Smokey, get off
the table!" is an entirely different set of tones!  Carolyn
Todd
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Need info on Feline Leukemia
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:34:15 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <3015@voodoo.UUCP>, das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) writes:
> My vet told me that the vaccine is only about 80% effective.  Something
> that just occured to me is:  does that mean any individual vacinated cat still
> has a 20% chance of cat of catching FLV, or does it mean that the vaccine
> is effective for 80% of the cats vacinated, and doesn't work for 20%?

As far as I know, it means if you vaccinate 100 cats and expose all 100 to
FeLeuk ("challenge dose" in pharmaceutical terms), 20 will get FeLeuk.

Kay
From: jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: why does my kitty do this
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:43:37 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Sally Hemings used to do this.  She had a toy bunny
(named Bingo Bunny) that she would carry around the house,
talking to it in that purring/cooing chirp that people
have described.  The conversations were long and involved.
My ex-roommate says that Bingo Bunny is about torn apart now,
and she is trying to substitute another toy.  Sally would
also bring up those long-legged crickets from the basement,
and talk to them for several minutes, but they must not have
been good conversationalists because they never really held
her attention for long.
--
Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
"The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
                                           --Carlyle                        
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: nancy@world.std.com (Nancy C Reynolds)
Subject: Re: Conversations with cats
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:50:45 GMT

My black and white cat, Chanel, and I have "conversations" a lot, though I
notice that I do most of the talking.  :-) She usually comes when called,
but like a kid, won't if she doesn't feel like it until I call the third
time and give her that "don't mess with me, come NOW" tone.  She
understands some words, though I sometimes wonder if it's my inflection,
rather than the actual English.  She understand her name, hi, no, cuddle,
tuna :-), and often just seems to understand whole sentences.  

Chanel likes to sit on my spot on the couch.  If I'm going to be sitting
there soon, maybe after a trip to the kitchen for something to drink, I
might say, "OK, Chanel.  I'm going to get something to drink and when I
get back, you're going to have to move." She just sort of looks at me, but
after I come back with my drink, she moves.  This has happened several
times. 

At bedtime, I put her in her room.  (No, I don't have a big place, but one
room is for storage and Chanel.) She's usually in the living room.  I'll
tell her it's time to go to bed and she seems to understand, especially if
I turn off the computer or turn out the light.  She'll start walking to
her room.  Sometimes, though, she doesn't move.  I'll ask, "Are you
walking or are you riding?" After that, sometimes she moves right away; if
she doesn't, I'll say, "I guess you're riding," and I'll pick her up and
balance her parallel to the floor on my shoulder (though she's a BIG cat)
and I'll take her to bed.  Many times, if she's walking, I might want to
stop in another room for a moment to get something.  I'll tell her, "Just
a moment.  I'll be right back." I'll get what I need, then go back to the
hallway.  She'll just be sitting there, looking back at me.  Once she sees
me, she continues on her way.  Now that she's 9 1/2, she occasionally goes
to bed on her own, unlike the early years when she did *not* want to go to
bed. 

I think quite possibly the funniest example of Chanel ever seeming to
understand English was the following.  My husband, Chanel and I were all
snuggling in bed with me in the middle.  I was being a proud mama and
wanted to show my husband that Chanel does *so* understand English.  :-) I
asked her "How much is 2 + 2?" She pawed the bed three times and paused. 
(Boy!  Was I sweating!) A couple seconds later, she pawed the bed one more
time!  I felt triumphant (and who are we kidding--*really* lucky!  I was
*not* stupid enough to try this a second time!). 

--Nancy Reynolds
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Should I get a second kitten?
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:29:03 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I have had cats all my life.  Mostly just one at a time, but I was always  
around to play with them.  When I was married my sister-in-law gave me a
siamese for a birthday gift (had her for 13yrs). When she died I didn't 
get another cat for about 3 months, my husband couldn't stand the crying
(me and the kids).  We had Kepurr for about a year and took in a stray
that someone had dumped.  Needless to say Kepurr was not thrilled about 
this at all.  When I took Muffin in to have her fixed (that's a dated term)
Kepurr was in heaven, but then I brought her back home.  He looked at me
like what the hell is she doing back here.  Kepurr is 9 and Muffin is 7/8.
taking her in was the best thing for Kepurr.  I think it did him a lot of
good to have another cat around.  Since then we have added Tigger (Muffin
was the one not happy about that) Teal (Tigger was not happy) and my last
baby Yogi.  None of them are happy about him.  I have had him for over a
year and he is just now standing up for his rights.  He isn't fixed, and
that is a lot of the problem.  But I'm trying to get him and Teal to give
me little points.  (They are himalayans (Blue and Seal point)).  
What I'm trying to say is that for the cat I think more then one is great.
I work 9 1/2 hr days and an hour each way to work, but they get more than
enough loving.  Now if you were to ask them they might differ in their
answer.
Go ahead, you'll like it!!!!!

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy)
Subject: A wet cat
Organization: None, and I like it like that
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:51:24 GMT

A further evidence of Penny's strangeness, and another step in the
chain of cats and water that was discussed a few weeks (months?)
ago. Penny always sits on the side of the bathroom sink while I
brush teeth, wash face, and clean and put in contacts. She is
fascinated with the water going down the drain. Sometimes she sits
on the front of the sink and I have to remove her to get at the
sink myself. A few days ago when she did this, I thought, "I'll
fix her. She likes water, eh? She's going to get WET." So I poured
water over the tail that was lying half in the bowl. No reaction
at all. I poured again and again, getting the tail soaked. Nothing.
I poured a handful on her head and it just rolled off. She didn't
even look at me or shake her head, just concentrated on that drain.
Sigh. So much for teaching her a lesson. I removed her and dried her
tail off somewhat with a towel. She just went and sat in the hall and
washed. This morning she was back in the way again. But I have learned
my lesson, even if I didn't teach her one.

Carol Denehy

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: bathtubs
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:27:04 GMT


Abigail has always been fascinated by a bathtub full of water.
Whenever I take a bath (often), she will, at some point, climb up on
the side.  Then she proceeds to dip one little white jellicle paw into
the water (usually just up to the black).  After carefully examining
the sopping wet paw, she shakes it, flinging water on me, my book, and
everything else in the vicinity.  

My reaction varies from amusement (if I'm reading a newspaper) to
alarm (if I'm reading a book that I borrowed from someone else and
that shouldn't get wet).

The funniest thing about this (to me) is that she's been following the
exact same routine for 16 years now.  One would think that she would
have figured out what would happen when she got that paw wet and that
she would no longer feel compelled to study the phenomenon.

Then again, maybe she's just doing it to get my books wet.  :-)


--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: david@master.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Met 25 Cats!
Reply-To: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
Organization: University of Chicago, Department of Anatomy
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:05:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.184708.214270@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi) writes:
> hi,
>   well, my move went ok (actually we're in a mess and the cats are loving it)
> 
>   and i met some of the neighborhood kids who then introduced me to the
>   neighbor's 25 cats!  The children know all their names and which ones are
>   "wild", "teenagers", "babies", etc.  I don't know HOW they keep them
>   straight.  Some of these cats were gorgeous, others really
>   stray-looking...one , i'm told has leukemia :-(  [isn't this transmittable
>   to the others?]
> 
>   Instant Purr was one of my favorites, the name tells the story...I've never
>   seen a cat purr so quickly and loudly just by being scratched on the head!
> 
>   Now, I just hope I can keep my indoor kitties, Bandit and Abbey, INDOORS!
>   they may find the neighborhood a little too interesting....
> 
>   peace,
>   laura
   

Are these cats spayed and neutered ?  It sounds like a potentially bad situation
especially if some do have leukemia ( yes, it is contagious).  You might
want to give animal control a call, especially if ALL the cats aren't
neutered.

				-David H.