HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Favorite Groups
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:27:41 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan24.234120.21420@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:

>>Boy, now that was sure what I had hoped to read today on soc.singles!
>>A computer generated list of artists like "Browne, Jackson".  Be still
>>my beating heart!  Just the raw data I wanted!  Happy, happy!  Joy, joy!

>     Guy Barry asked and I answered him with who I liked.  Computer
>generated? Nah.

You mean you enter "Browne, Jackson" BY HAND?  Do you do that when
speaking, too?  You must have a hard time talking to anyone except
toll-free salespeople.

>>Hint: if you're trying on any level to portray yourself as a human
>>being with warmth and emotions, it's not working.

>     Fine.  I can not control how others perceive me.  I can only control
>my own actions.  If you perceive me the way that you do, then fine.  You
>do not know my motivations and what I am trying to accomplish, if I am
>trying to accomplish anything, by posting here.

BULLSHIT.  You create an image of yourself when you post here; how
you choose your words and your topics entirely controls how your
audience views you until you actually meet someone in the flesh.
You can make yourself come across in any way you want!  Best of all,
you can try to select your words such that your basic personality
comes through.  That means that people who like your net.personality
will stand a good chance to like your real.personality.  You can do
this, many have!  To say "It's not anything to do with me" is the
biggest cop-out of all.  If you truly don't give a fuck about what
anyone else thinks of you, you probably wouldn't have posted your
music list, I think.

>>You come across
>>in almost any article I read by you as a logical little automaton
>>with Spock ears.  If that's really what you're like, please accept
>>my apologies for making a big deal about it.
>>

>    If that is the way that you interpret how I am by my posts,
>then I can not change how you interpret me.  After the PSC thread,
>I believe that I have revealed more non-logical things about myself.
>If you don't see that, then fine.

Actually, you aren't emotionless; I did learn that from the PSC
thread.  Thanks for the correction.  You're suppressing any positive,
warm emotions (i.e., any emotions that aren't hatred at any woman who
dares to get money from you and intolerance toward a church).  As such,
you make my skin crawl, where before I simply though of you as having
no redeeming characteristics.  Get thee to a mental health facility!

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"Shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have all of this,
 and, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, from you?"
- "Passionate Kisses" Lucinda Williams
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Credibility and Trueness
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:39:55 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas) writes:

>>Pick up a book called "The Myth of Mental Illness" by Thomas Sasz, 
>>and you may discover what "mad doctoring" is all about.

>Even Sasz has repudiated that book.

Szasz has repudiated his best-known book?  Wow.
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Mating Genes..(was Credibility)
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:48:44 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <16B5EDC84.SURGDM@mizzou1.missouri.edu> SURGDM@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Diane) writes:
>In article <ewright.727735009@convex.convex.com>
>ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
> 
>>In <93020.213759SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Graydon) writes:
>>
>>>Ed, whoa - why is being single a pathological condition?
>>
>>Being single is not a pathological condition.  *Enjoying*
>>being single would be.  Evolution would have eliminating
>>any such trait from the species long ago.
>>
> 
>There's a "happy-to-be-mated" gene now???? I had mine here just a
>minute ago....OH MY GODDDDDDD!!!! It's gone!!! Vanished into thin air!!
>Last time I saw it was (let's see) Oh yes! several months before the last
>break-up!!! (hold on, maybe I just misplaced it.....) ;)
> 
>Diane
> 
>ObPersonal:
>Brunette would like to meet someone who has an expressive "happy-to-lavish
>jewells-and-electronics-on-brunettes" gene! ;) Zygote status unimportant.
>Must be dominent or willing to mutate.

Hey, me too!

Must be female though.

Don't need electronics, or, well, jewels for that matter either.

Hey, I like being myself.  I don't know _how_ to mutate!!

Single too.

horton hears a  "WHO?"

ME, ME!

Ok, that was random.

OBPers:

I'm tired of trying to meet new people.  Leave me out of it.
It's just a personal thingy.

l
.

andy
/.
/.
hm.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: Steve Martin no longer in vogue?
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 23:44:35 GMT

In article 16874@bnlux1.bnl.gov, schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>In article <thurlow.727575998@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>>In <296@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>>
>>>In article <thurlow.727204418@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>>>>Oh for fuck's sake.  Keith, you really are quite a piece of work.
>
>>>Well, 
>>>	Excuuuuuuuuuse Meeeeee!
>
>>No, I won't.  Besides, people stopped quoting Steve Martin five years ago.
>>Rob T
>
>What?  Steve Martin quotes have out of style?!  Hmmph.  Guess I'll have 
>to stop using the "cat juggling" routine.
>
>Could have been worse, Rob T.  He might have said "eat my shorts, man".
>Give me the quotes from the '70's any ol' day.

Sock it to me!
23 skidoo?

dreas
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Honesty, Your word, and Trust -- a crisis?
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:39:06 GMT
	<JMD.93Jan27092706@lion.bear.com> <lmdet5INN2oa@news.bbn.com>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: kgorman@bbn.com's message of 27 Jan 93 16:43:17 GMT


In article <lmdet5INN2oa@news.bbn.com> kgorman@bbn.com (Karen Gorman) writes:

   In article <JMD.93Jan27092706@lion.bear.com>, jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
   > 
   > In article <77584@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
   > 
   >>Yup.  Yet another breakdown in communication.  We are unwilling to
   >>confront each other on even the smallest issues.  So the issues
   >>aggregate, and snowball until they become a major issue.  The kind
   >>that cause relationships to fail.  Even the kind that causes wars.

   I think the best approach to any situation where there is a conflict is to nip
   it in the bud before it blossoms into a full scale war.  This approach
   seems to work well for me (as much as I may hate to confront the issue at hand
   initially)...better now than later.

   >    I'm really annoyed at the self-righteous tone of this thread.

   I'm not.

Er, I think you've got the attribution backwards... karen was
describing my comment about unwillingness to confront self righteous.
It sounds like you agree with me...

Spidey!!!

--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
From: sgokhale@lonestar.utsa.edu (Shashank S. Gokhale)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: SM ISO MAIL
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:10:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1993Jan24.191038.27996
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <16585@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>First of all, I don't condone posting personal ads in soc.singles.  That
>said:
>
thanks for supporting me on this, john.
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Stef... A quote for you...
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:52:46
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
	<77354@apple.apple.COM> <1993Jan25.145856.14939@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.cs.unc.edu
In-reply-to: jwall@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:58:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.145856.14939@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jwall@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Wall) writes:

   In article <77354@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
   >diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
   >
   >Should we add this to the FAQ?

   The FAQ???  I didn't know this group was organized enough to have a FAQ. 
   Guess I'll keep my eyes open for it ???

It isn't, but that doesn't keep us from talking about how it should.


--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: Steve Martin no longer in vogue?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:16:09 GMT

In article <lm0bahINN2vb@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.163759.23167@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>    "Babies feel a lot better going in than they do coming out."
>>-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
>Are we related or something?  My mother says that statement was the 
>sum total of sex education that she received from her mother.

I don't think we are related, but your mothers mother and I *may* share a
brain!  I may not have been the first to say that, but I never heard
it anywhere else but in my own mind - so it's original.  I guess. 

Dawn:  you might post that grandparents thing to misc.kids.  Also,
where does one acquire music by this "Bongwater" you quote? :-)
-- 
-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
Nance Colucci                                      att!ihlpl!colucci
    "Babies feel a lot better going in than they do coming out."
-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:22:20 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: what is attractive ?
Distribution: usa
 <1993Jan21.162830.15905@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
 <ewright.727736220@convex.convex.com>

In article <ewright.727736220@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V.
Wright) says:
>In that case, "physiology" must change very rapidly indeed.  Even
>a brief study of history will show that there are enormous changes
>in what is considered physically attractive.  During the Italian
>Rennaissance, the ideal woman was quite rotund by today's standards.
>In China, up until the beginning of this century, women bound their
>feet to make them appear smaller and more attractive.  In the United
>States, just 20 years ago, it was generally accepted that women should
>be soft, rather than the "hard bodies" popular today.  Muscles on women
>were considered unattractive.

The 'fashionable ideal' changes very rapidly, yes, but how much of
a corelation is there between the fashionable ideal and what people
actually find attractive?

Getting good data on this would be a horrid problem in experiment
design, too, since 'attraction' is exceedingly subjective.

Graydon
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
saundrsg@               "Praise then Darkness and Creation unfinished"
   qucdn.queensu.ca                   - U. K. LeGuin
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: walter (Walter Lego)
Subject: Re: (LONG) Re: Living alone and liking it
Followup-To: soc.singles
Reply-To: nobody
Organization: Twisted Pair Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:48:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.191908.18320@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>Have either of you considered that *people* get what they get from
>relationships based on who and what they are and why and how they conduct
>themselves?  And that relationships with similar outcomes in a person's life
>do not indicate that *all* members of their preferred sex are this way or that
>way?

Bingo. I knew somebody would get it.

>
>If you have endured a set of similar relationships, consider the only real
>common denominator in each situation.  (Hint:  Mirror mirror on the
>wall ...)

Er.. Nance, the last time I suggested the same to you (two women that have
had bad relationships feeling the same way about men....remember that one?),
I distinctly remember you flying off the handle. How times change.

>People see only what they want to see.  When you are emersed in a situation,
>it's near impossible to step away from it to see the whole picture.  It's
>like trying to examine an oil painting with your nose pressed up against it.

Besides I am convinced that more involved one is in a relationship, less
introspective one becomes.

						Walter

What disclaimer?
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: Mocsny?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:06:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.013452.26669@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>Gee, now that Walter Lego and Mark Israel are posting again....

Weird coincidence that - both of them coming back on the same day - What if
they are really the same person !! I mean has anyone seen them together?

Max 


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Re: Favorite Groups
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:57:19 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1k84qoINNl20@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.215803.24283@datamark.co.nz> thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes:
>>Could all the net.old.farts try to remember that just because they've
>>been on the net since it was net.singles (or whatever) doesn't
>>actually make their posts any clearer?
>
>I think he just called a big lot of us 'old'. :)

If the wheelchair fits... :-)

>Not all of us that have been reading since the Dawn of Time (no offense, Ms.
>Hardin) of (yes it was) net.singles are 'old.farts'. :)

I liked Rob's "net.young.fuck" in response.

On the other hand, some of us have been reading Usenet for a few years
now but have only just got around to discovering soc.singles. We don't
know everyone here that well and using such things as smilies does
help to make meanings clear.

ObSingles : Damn, there I was feeling happy with my life and enjoying
being single until, whammo, I meet a perfectly unavailable perfect
woman. Now I feel all tense again...

-- 
    Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz           Work: 64 4 233 8186
 Technical Writer | thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz     Home: 64 4 499 3832
   Wellington, NZ |   A man without a woman is like tea without sugar.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Concerts vs. Relationship
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:30:20 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan25.234945.4845@advtech.uswest.com> smithrud@advtech.uswest.com writes:
>In article <6477.13.uupcb@uuworld.via.mind.ORG> brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason)  writes:
|>       I would like to pose/post a new question that's been buging me for
|>a while.
|>
|>       Why is it that everytime I take a girlfriend (in the past) or my
|>ex (not so long ago) to a rock n roll concert it just seems to be a
|>matter of months before our relationship seems to take a turn for the
|>worst?
|>
|>       Took my ex to see the B-52's in Concord, CA this last Sept and
|>well December rolls around and we're signing divorce papers...
|>
|>       Same goes for Howard Jones, Styx, Cool n the Gang.
|>
|>       Now I'm not blaming it on the concert or the artists, but it just
|>strikes me odd. 

Perhaps you should.  I can't understand about the B-52's, unless perhaps,
she was a Vietnam veteren and couldn't handle the flashbacks.  The others
may be more questionable.  Were they on the Rower Approved Music List?

| Have any of you had similar experiences?
|>
|>       Brent Mason
|
|This used to be a well-kept secret, but now it's a wonderful
|device to use when I get tired of someone I've been seeing.  I
|take them (against my better tastes) to see groups like New Kids
|on The Block or Marky Mark and The Funky Bunch and before you know it,
|they are out of my life before I can say "HammerTime!"  ;)
 
What do you do if they actually end up liking the concert?  While some people
might like people that wear their underwear on the outside is this the
kind of person that you want to bring home to meet mom?

But, seriously.....

Perhaps the concert experience did contribute to the demise of your
relationship.  How did you act in those surroundings.  Did you still pay
attention to her even though you surrounded by thousands of people?  Did you
get blasted on cheap wine (if you did you might try asking Dawn to a concert.
I hear she likes that kind of thing) and make an idiot of yourself?  Did you
pay *too* much attention to her?  These are valid questions (or others like
them) that you should ask yourself.  There may be something that each woman
has seen come out in that situation.  A concert experience, especially a
large one, can be a rather unique event (especially a Grateful Dead concert).
With the incredible amount of stimuli available in a large venue, with a
loud band, and thousands of people, how you relate with that one other person
is still going to be noticed.  

-- 
-john
From: brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a M
Date: 19 Jan 93 17:50:00 GMT
Reply-To: brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Micro Exchange - Kenwood, CA - 707-833-4032

SJ> From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
  > Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
  > Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
  > Message-ID: <1993Jan16.024157.215@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
  > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 02:41:57 GMT
  >
  >
  > In article <1993Jan15.225843.19322@st-andrews.ac.uk> ccjm@st-andrews.ac.uk (
  > in Charles James MacDonald) writes:
  >
  > >How Strong should a Man Be?
  >
  > Strong enough to reach out and smack the next person who answers this.
  >
  > Why is a man's strength in question here?
  >
  > I think the question should be, "How much authority is safe to give a woman?
  >
  > -steve

  Hey now let's not go blaming the woman for all OUR problems!!

  Yes it was the woman who took the fruit from the serpant in the tree.

  But is was a MAN who was stupid enough to take the fruit from the woman.

Brent Mason
---
 . BABBLE v1.0 . Arn't you glad MicroProcessors don't have Hormones!!
 . KMail 2.94  Micro Exchange
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Flirting How To Guide/Backrubs
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:25:20 GMT
	<1993Jan24.220457.12422@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<JULIE.93Jan25184327@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu>
	<1993Jan26.015338.6704@cbnews.cb.att.com>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com's message of 26 Jan 93 01:53:38 GMT


In article <1993Jan26.015338.6704@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) writes:

   Piglet (who, btw, _doesn't_ have BigHair, _despite_ having moved to NJ)

Piglet, trying to imagine you with BigHair is almost as difficult as
trying to imagine Jim Dutton wearing a tutu!

Spidey!!!

--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
Xref: sparky soc.singles:37577 soc.penpals:5839 alt.romance:16334 alt.romance.chat:23839
From: ece_0296@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Abu Bakar Al-Idrus)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.penpals,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: SM ISO MAIL
Keywords: "Want"
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:42:52 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <C19GCo.DE7@cen.ex.ac.uk> st92rcn@cen.ex.ac.uk writes:
>My name is rachel and I want your body

Oh yeah? Try going to the Body Shop! ;>  ;)  :)

- U of A Kinda Guy
From: sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Steve Martin no longer in vogue?
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:16:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Society for the Promulgation of Cruelty to the Clueless

In article <1993Jan22.142544.16874@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:

>What?  Steve Martin quotes have out of style?!  Hmmph.  Guess I'll have 
>to stop using the "cat juggling" routine.

I always thought that "cat juggling" was invented by the Flying
Karamazov Brothers.  I've seen them do it enough times :-)

Seth
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Subject: Re: Living alone and liki
Organization: Trivializers R Us
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:51:38 GMT

In article <MARTINC.93Jan25104603@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <6170.13.uupcb@uuworld.via.mind.ORG> brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason)  writes:
>
>     > Please tell me you mean sequentially.  Not simultaneously playing.
>     >
>     > (Mine is loaded with 2 disks of Evita, Melissa Etheridge, Jean-Michel
>     > Jarre's Revolutions, and Das Ring Ohne Worte....)
>
>	  Oh yea, well mine's loaded with 3 Hotters albums, Tommy Shaw (of
>   Styx and Damn Yankees fame) and Jethro Tull (Best of the last 20 Years)
>
>Now mine's loaded with Ray Manzarek's _The Golden Scarab_ (reissued on
>CD at last!), Kate Bush's _The Whole Story_, Suzanne Ciani's
>_Neverland_, Information Society's _Hack_, and the _Lost Boys_ soundtrack.
>So there.

Got you both beat. Living in nyc, cd changer filled with roches


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: clever@sequent.com (Cathy Cleverley)
Subject: Re: How Does your Name Sound?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:53:18 GMT

blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

>In article <C1JIA9.ACA@panix.com> sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan26.040340.28921@Virginia.EDU> llk4k@Virginia.EDU ("Lori Karalow") writes:
>>>Okay, my turn, see if you can pronounce my last name......
>>Now try spelling mine.  (Have someone read you the header while you
>>write it down.  A majority of people get it wrong.)

>Now y'all have an idea why I don't use my last name in the header. I just got
>tired of people saughtering 'Rosul' (pronounced, btw 'row-sull' (last syllable
>rhymes with 'gull')).
>(actually, if you want to get technical, its pronounciation (non-anglicized)
>is 'Roe-Shul'. Its means 'The Red' for the curious, and is Romanian in origin)
>Just in case anybody really was curious :)
>r.

Try having Cleverley (pronounced the way it is spelt).  I must admit I
married into the name and kept it when I ditched him.  I like how
Cathy Cleverley rolls off the tongue;  (my maiden name was Houlton).
But I do get tired of the mis-pronounciations, misspellings and the
feeble word plays.
--
Cathy Cleverley                                 clever@sequent.com
Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.          +1 416 629-4000
"An expert is anyone more than 100 miles~
from home with a set of slides"