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From: Ken_J_Siegel@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Technical Information about WDW
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 92 21:50:34 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Well Phil, I can answer a few of your questions (as I am sure others will
also.)  I am a chef in NJ and have known a few former "cast members"  
(employees to you and I), I have been told that they are a pretty good
company to work for, the treat their people very well, the training is
very good, ect, except that they pay poorly.  It is a good resume builder.
As far as culinary/food wise, just last week I received the new issue of
Food Arts (a trade mag) and they have a 2 page spread about the chefs
at Disney World.  There are 3300 on the culinary staff, and they serve over
200,000 meals a day (ouch).  They have a few of the best chefs in the
country, the Executive Chef at Epcot is Keith Keogh, who is also 
president of The American Culinary Federation (an organization of some 
20,000 chefs and related professionals in 250 local chapters in the   
country).  Keogh is also the manager of the USA Culinary Olympic 
team (this is a world wide culinary event held next month in Germany, it is
 a very impressive culinary event.)  Disney also has a few other chefs that
are nationally known.  Culinary wise, they have the largest apprentice 
program in the country.
Phil, if you want, I could send you a copy of the article if your into 
food much...
                         Ken J Siegel
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.food.restaurants
From: pswecker@med.unc.edu (Peter St.Wecker, N4YRJ)
Subject: Restaurants in Anaheim, CA
Originator: pswecker@pelham
Organization: UNC School of Medicine
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:23:44 GMT

     I'll be going to Anaheim at the end of October for a conference, and
I'm wondering if anyone can recommend some good (or at least decent)
restaurants in the area.  I'll be staying at a hotel on S. Harbor, across
the street from Disneyland (it's called the Saga Inn).
     As I probably won't have a car, are there any restaurants within
walking distance of there?  For that matter, is it safe to walk there???
 
     Thanks for any info!

                                 -- Peter
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From: mross@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: EPCOT in 1st Half November
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:26:00 GMT
Organization: LASERAMA, usa

In article <72122@apple.Apple.COM> prw@Apple.COM (Paul Wenker) writes:
>
>There is no parking, or for that matter even a road, near the "back entrance"
>to EPCOT.  It's accessible only via a walkway from the Yacht/Beach Club and
>by a tram from the Yacht Club, Swan, and Dolphin.


Actually, there is a road between the Yacht & Beach Club and the 
World Showcase entrance to EPCOT Center.  I think there are even 
two roads there.  They are under the walkway and river.
The road that I traveled - by the ordinary WDW bus - went from 
the Y&B resort, under the walkway and river, and around the perimeter
of World Showcase to a point roughly behind Germany, at which point it
joins with another road out to a main road south of EPCOT.
From that road, you can see the back sides of a lot of the pavillions -
a lot more than Disney usually lets visitors see.  I think the 
second road was just for EPCOT personnel only.

Take a look at the walls lining the walkway and river between World 
Showcase and the Y&B Resort.  You'll be amazed at what it hides.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: Donald in Mathematicsland
Organization: Turkey Hall
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:45:43 GMT

>	Does anyone know if Donald in Mathematicsland has been or will be
>released on VHS??  I remember watching it back in elementary school, and I
>really enjoyed it.

It's already out.  The version I got had "Ducking Disaster" (I think) on it
as well, but I'm quite sure it has since been released by itself.
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From: bogart@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (Ed Bogart)
Subject: Re: Kidnapping at Disneyland
Reply-To: bogart@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (Ed Bogart)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:44:59 GMT

gln posts;

> NOTE: pompous, hysterical reply to Snopes deleted

For your information, this UL has been around much longer than Disney
World (or Land for that matter).  I first heard it in the 60s.  But 
then, life does imitate art sometimes.

BTW.  The best twist that i have ever heard on this UL was back int the
early 70s when we people here in Virginia were first being exposed to
the idea that all people are created equal (y'all know, that ol civil raht
stuff).  There were two versions in general circulation.  One (told by 
the liberal troublemakers) that said that the kidnappers were Klan members
and the kid was black. The other version said that the kidnappers were
black militants and the child was white.

One thing that _everyone_ agreed on was that "It must me true because the
police had denied it and you know they wouldn't do that it was made up."

Ed "I think all this stuff in quotes is stupid" Bogart



Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt)
Subject: Re: Why I love Disney, Part 47
Organization: Stan's Chosen Ones
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 23:43:24 GMT


Don't blame me, I voted for Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster).
>I've read elsewhere of a family who brought a terminally ill child on a
>"Make a Wish" type trip to WDW, made it inside the MK gate, saw Mickey
>Mouse greeting some other children and while waiting for Micky to
>come over to him, died.  The family was discreetly and quickly taken
>out of the park.  So, see, I do know some things about Disney that
>aren't so very rosy, too!

I don't understand the problem here.  This is indeed a terribly sad
story,  but how does it reflect unrosily on the Walt Disney Company?
Should Mickey have rushed away from the other children to greet the
sick one?  (How could the actor have known?)  Is it the "discreetly
and quickly taken out" part that's bad?  Should the family have been
taken out of the park slowly?  Loudly, with lots of fanfare and media
attention?  Or should they have been left *in* the park?

I mean, it's tragic, but it sounds to me as if Disney behaved as well
as a company could in such a circumstance.

-- 
"I had generously shown on the stage my interior life as a raging beast, but
 my exterior life as a mediocre human being and dilettante of of normal int-
 elligence remained unchronicled...I *knew* that beneath my work's primeval,
 hysterical facade there was a calm little writer in an armchair just waiting
 to burst forth." -- Wally Shawn, on the writing of "My Dinner With Andre'"
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Why I love Disney, Part 47
Distribution: world
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:06:24 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Ann,
 
On Mon 7 Sep 92 you said:
 
 > No - all of us at Berkeley aren't communists
 > who are stiff miffed that Walt wouldn't allow Nikolai Kruscheff into
 > Disneyland because Walt didn't agree with his political beliefs! (though
 > this is another historical point of Disney's intolerance of
differences).
 
Beg to differ with you, Ann, but the book "Walt Disney - An American
Original" by Bob Thomas relates the event in a totally different way:
 
    "When Nikita Khrushchev, the Premier of Russia, visited the United
States in 1960, he expressed his desire to see Disneyland.  The Los Angeles
police chief said he could not protect the premier in such crowds, and the
visit was canceled.  At a film-industry luncheon attended by scores of
movie stars, Khrushchev ranted like a child who had been denied a toy.  His
outburst made headlines throughout the world."
    "Lilly Disney had wanted to meet the Russian premier and was
disappointed that he hadn't come to Disneyland.  So was Walt.  He had
planned to line up the eight ships of his new submarine side and say to
his visitor: `Well, now, Mr. Khrushchev, here's my Disneyland submarine
fleet.  It's the eighth largest in the world.'"
 
    BTW, Carol thanks you for the compliments about her post.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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    UUCP: rex!agwbbs!rich_koster
From: doug@celia.UUCP (Doug Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: "Kidnapping" at Disneyland
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:44:01 GMT
Reply-To: celia!doug@usc.edu (Doug Nichols)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

I couldn't agree more about the name calling.

Just a thought, however. First, I'm quite certain that this whole
thing does, indeedie, fall into the Urban Legend realm. One thing
I can't help wondering is this: Why (if this really happened) did
no one on this net from Orange County, CA read about it in the
paper and post the story? Does anyone seriously believe that Disneyland
can clamp down on the newsmedia so effectively that stories of this
nature and magnitude couldn't even get to the presses?

Think about it, folks. I'm as likely as the next person to believe
in conspiracy theories (well, MORE likely, really,) but I just don't
think this one's too likely.

Doug Nichols
Rhythm & Hues, Hollywood, CA
I was at Disneyland last weekend and nobody bothered to try and kidnap me.
Oh well. Maybe next time.......
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 1992 17:54:42 -0400 
From: John Michael DiCosola <jd4b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Beyond Alladin
	<Bu1Iq0.F40@world.std.com>

Can anyone e-mail me what's up next with Disney animated features.  I
had heard talk about "King of the jungle" and "Pocahantas" as future
candidates for '93 and '94.  Thanks in advance.

--John at CMU
From: ostrove@goofy.umd.edu (Steven M. Ostrove)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: HELP Disneyland hurts childs feelings
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:11:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.163757.2013@nb.rockwell.com> guthrie@nb.rockwell.com  
(Karen Guthrie) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep14.205433.2654@nic.csu.net>,  
jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
> > In article <1992Sep14.213212.11453@nb.rockwell.com> guthrie@nb.rockwell.com  
(Ka
> > ren Guthrie) writes:
> > From someone who's 5'2", I think you are making a big deal out of it.  Hope
> > she grows another foot and will enjoy next year's season pass :).  Perhaps
> > she was too young?  I never went on any of those rides when I was 4.5
> > years old.  And that's from lack of wanting to!  I would refer to her as a
> > little kid if I saw her, and that's not because of height!  But, I think
> > the bracelet idea's good.  I could use one myself.
> No she is not too little.  For one thing she enjoyed all of the fast rides
> emensely, and for another about 12 out of 13 height measurements classed her
> as big enough.  It was just this one power mad jerk.  My problem is mostly
> inconsistency not a requirement.  I am only 5'3" and I don't have a problem
> with my height.  It is not that she wants to be large but wanting to be a
> big girl in the mature sense is a very important step in a childs development
> I think.  Parents can use it as a complement for everything from not throwing 
> a fit over a toy you won't buy to trying hard at swimming or reading.  If
> you haven't been around a 4.5 year old lately you would be surprised to know
> that Chelsea can swim, spell her name and write it, sound out small words
> and started Kindergarden yesterday.  Her desire to go on the fast rides is
> probably the fault of genetics since I never rode a ride that was too fast.
> Her only complaint about Space Mountain was that it was too short... I agree.
> 
> Karen 

Karen,

You actually had (at least) one other option...  Ask to talk to a Lead,
and if that didn't work, then you should have asked to talk to a Manager.
If in fact your daughter passed 12 out of 13 measurements I'm sure that a
Lead would have okayed her going on the ride.
From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Articles on simulator rides?
Keywords: Star Tours, etc.
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:28:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Has anyone seen any articles describing the technology used in Star
Tours and similar rides? I have the postings that have gone by here
on the net giving brief descriptions, but my brother is looking for
something more detailed. Perhaps something has appeared in a Disney-
oriented magazine, a general-interest science magazine (e.g. 
Scientific American), or a publication for fans of amusement parks?

By the way, my brother rode on the new simulator ride at Pier 39 in
San Francisco last weekend, and he reports that it seems to be a
stationary room with hydraulically moved chairs. Anyone have more info?


Thanks!
Patty
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From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disneyland Maps
Keywords: or, Keynumbers: 16"h X 30"w
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:40:29 GMT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

My ex-SO has confirmed that the map he bought of Disneyland is
"about"  16"H X 30"H.  They can be purchased around the park, but
he bought his at the concession stand left of the park gates.

Jennifer
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From: joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
Subject: Re: Kidnapping at Disneyland
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:57:32 GMT

In <21982@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:

>In article <1992Sep12.051417.22361@PA.dec.com>, snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>> In article <1768@shaman.wv.tek.com>, 
>> >Happened to my project leader's brother last weekend: they were walking
>> >through Disneyland with their two-year-old boy, holding his hand.
>> >Somebody bumped into them, they lost the boy's hand, and the boy
>> >disappeared.  Panicked, screamed for security, and a good thing: a few
>> >minutes later they caught somebody trying to hustle the boy out a gate,
>> >wearing different clothes and with a haircut.
>> Yeah, it's really scary because this exact same thing happens several dozen 
>> times a year, always to somebody else's relative's friend, at amusement
>> parks and malls all over the country.  Next time don't forget to leave out 
>> part about how they managed to identify him by his shoes, since the kidnappers
>> always forget to change them.  It's also a lot more interesting if you include
>> the details about the kidnappers' drugging the boy, taking him into the 
>> bathroom, and disguising him as a girl.





> Pompous assholes like you are the real problem - no - nothing like this could
>possibly have gone wrong at the great Disney world or the even greater Walt
>Disney world - screw you - before you start calling someone a liar you should
>at least have the slightest bit of proof to back it up... but of course 
>Disney is always right in this group so what am I thinking of.... perhaps if it
>was your child you might think twice before mocking someone else.....




It's a classic UL.  Read some Brunvand.  That it happened to someone other
than the poster (or even someone directly related to the poster) makesthe
likelihood of it having really happened extremely slim.





>				gln




>> 
>>  - snopes
>> 
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>> |    Any other use, copying, reproduction or performance in public, in        | 
>> |    whole or in part, will be prosecuted.                                    |
>> |                                                                             |
>> | +  David Mikkelson  Digital Equipment Corporation, Culver City, CA  USA  +  |
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mcdonald@netcom.com (James T. Mc Donald III)
Subject: Re: FANTASMIC SECRET!!
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 02:32:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep10.014333.3714@ast.saic.com> sdk@asdi.saic.com (Scott Kessler x6776) writes:
>Okay,
>
>Everyone's been complaining about no where good to view
>Fantasmic from. Well I'll let you in on a little secret.
>I just got back from Disneyland and had the best seats
>in the house. And that's no lie. I was seated on the
>balcony of the Disney Gallery, high above the heads of
>everyone, and directly in front of where it all takes place.
>There are only about 32 spaces per show on the balcony, although
>it can easily hold 3 times that many, and they are reserved for
>VIPs. If the seats are not filled by VIPs, those with reservations
>can fill in. Reservations are taken at 7:00 for all the shows at the
>bottom of the stairs behind the antique shop.
>
>I'm trusing everyone with this information because as of yet this
>little tidbit is not advertiesed. Let's keep it that way so it
>does'nt become a zoo.
>
>Have fun...I did!
>
>sdk
>

Lemme let the net in on a little information also.  The line starts to form
for the "reservations" around 6:00pm.  Last night, 8 September 1992, most
seats on the balconey were taken up by corporate VIPs. One guy got in line
at 4pm and saved spots for ten people and then ended up giving away a few spots
to whom he pleased, as opposed to giving the spots to the cast member to give
to those on the waiting list.  Also, found last night that the cast member
taking reservations bumped one group on the waiting list for the 1030 show
so that a friend could see from up on the balcony.

IMHO, for the time that you wait in line for the reservations, the seats
are not worth it.  Wait the same amount of time and sit on the ground for
the 1030 or 1145 shows. Right on the railing, and closer to the action. Or,if
you are lucky enough, watch it from the balcony of Club 33. 

Jim Mc Donald
mcdonald@netcom.com

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Subject: Re: Kidnapping at Disneyland
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:21:58 GMT

In article <21982@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>> Yeah, it's really scary because this exact same thing happens several dozen 
>> times a year, always to somebody else's relative's friend, at amusement
>> parks and malls all over the country.  Next time don't forget to leave out 
>> part about how they managed to identify him by his shoes, since the kidnappers

> Pompous assholes like you are the real problem - no - nothing like this could
>possibly have gone wrong at the great Disney world or the even greater Walt
>Disney world - screw you - before you start calling someone a liar you should
>at least have the slightest bit of proof to back it up... but of course 
>Disney is always right in this group so what am I thinking of.... perhaps if it
>was your child you might think twice before mocking someone else.....

Get the impression that this guy does not understand the concept behind AFU?

There ought to be some kind of newusers guide that people are *required*
to read and understand before posting.

	(I could probably put something together for two fifty)

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From: adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Maps
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:35:13 GMT
Organization: Micro Technology, Inc., Anaheim, CA

In article <92247.135018WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu> WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu (Reid Woolery) writes:
>Does anyone know if Disney still produces large maps of Disneyland and
>WDW for sale to the public?

Yup.  Disneyland sells them throughout the park for about $1.50.  They update
every couple of years.  I never found a decent one of the different WDW parks
when I was there, but they did have a general one that covers the whole resort.

Aid.  (adrian@lexcel.com)
From: tanida@forseti.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: I am Ariel
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:47:08 GMT
Reply-To: tanida@esosun.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
In-reply-to: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )

In article <92248.111116WAS104@psuvm.psu.edu>, WAS104@psuvm.psu.edu
writes:
> I'm sure being 19 and having 'The Little Mermiad' be your favorite movie of all
> time is nothing new....er, um well maybe it is.  Although I haven't seen B&TB
>
>...<message deleted for brevity>
>
> Well Folks, Eric is a'callin'.....AHHHHH AHHHH AHHHHH

In article <1992Sep4.133834.2589@nic.csu.net>, jtinkle@sparc1 (j. tinkle ) writes:
>I beg to differ, but *I* am Ariel.  Actually, I just think I'm a mermaid.
>
>...<message deleted for brevity>
>
>The first thing should be, m-e-r-m-A-I-d.  The second thing would be, move
>near a Disney Store.

How come nobody wants to be Belle? :-)

And, Jennifer, if you wait long enough, they're liable to build a
Disney store in SLOtown.  They're already working on the 5th here
in San Diego (in fact, there's going to be one less than a mile from
where I work).  Kind of cheapens it, though, when they build so many
all in one place.

-Tom
tanida@esosun.css.gov