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From: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Subject: Re: What IS with Jerry?
Reply-To: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:50:50 GMT


In an article I read some time ago, it mentioned that the gist of the humour
was that here was a stand-up comedian playing "straight man" to comedic actors, 
an ironic twist, if you will (and if you won't, well...).

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 'Til what we put off 'til tomorrow, Has now become today.
 So don't you sit upon the shoreline, And say you're satisfied;
 Choose to chance the rapids, And dare to dance the tide..."

			- "The River", by Garth Brooks
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From: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Subject: Re: Clint Howard = Mark Wedlo
Reply-To: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:19:03 GMT


Just like animals, most everything's cuter when it's younger, except, of
course Mason Reese ("step into the Wayback Machine, Mr. Peabody), who is
as homely now as when he was doing those Underwood Deviled Ham adverts.

With that little piece of trivia, I know I *really* need to get a life!


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From: ANTISTEC@ctrvx2.Vanderbilt.Edu (ANTISTEC)
Subject: Season Premeire
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:05:22 GMT

Well, since no one else has brought this up...

The two cops in the "black and white" that pick up Jerry and George are the
guys from the syndicated show "The New ADAM-12". I think.  Can anyone
else confirm/disconfirm this?

Also, no one has mentioned the scene with Kramer trying to comb his hair...

       "Whoa, I'm dizzy"

Any relation between Kramer and Rev. Jim on Taxi?

David Antis
antistec@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu

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From: jms@s1.gov (James M. Sharp)
Subject: Re: Seinfeld's pink triangle
Organization: llnl
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:57:09 GMT

mweil@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Marty D Weil) writes:

>In article <1992Aug14.195203.19257@sei.cmu.edu> bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)
> writes:
>>
>>If this has been discussed before, my apologies.
>>
>>Is there any significance to the inverted pink triangle that
>>appears in the Seinfeld logo?  I'm curious as to whether it's
>>a statement in support of gay/lesbian/bisexual groups.
>>

>ya know, i always sorta had this feeling that jerry might be gay.  either
>that or just a total geek.  he has always seemed to avoid questions about
>relationships.  boy, this is really going to get people going.  anyone
>have any facts on this?

I heard that Julia's baby was actually his and that they are living
together.  Any substance to this rumor?

-Jim-
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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 06:15:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.124124.14203@ryn.mro4.dec.com> amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim) writes:
>
>FYI - the guy the cops cuffed in the 519 (who turned out to be the "Smog 
>Strangler") is Ron Howard's brother.  (Oooh, I gotta get a life!)
                ^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ He's also Balok  from Star Trek!
I almost fell out of my chair when i saw who that was!! :)

jam  

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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 11:14:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.194725.20804@leland.Stanford.EDU>, soup@leland.Stanford.EDU (young-sup lee) writes:
|>                                                             i just didn't
|> like the showing of dead people; that's all.

Remember, that was only a "fictional corpse".

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From: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Reply-To: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:41:24 GMT


I never noticed it before last night's episode, but has there always been a 
laugh track for scenes not filmed in front of the studio audience?? (Personally,
I hate 'em.)  

I loved the scene when George and Jerry are in the "black and white", acting 
like two little kids.

FYI - the guy the cops cuffed in the 519 (who turned out to be the "Smog 
Strangler") is Ron Howard's brother.  (Oooh, I gotta get a life!)
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"Too many times we stand aside, And let the waters slip away;
 'Til what we put off 'til tomorrow, Has now become today.
 So don't you sit upon the shoreline, And say you're satisfied;
 Choose to chance the rapids, And dare to dance the tide..."

			- "The River", by Garth Brooks
From: cryan@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (scott cryan 283-4109)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Kramer on Pinnochio
Date: 12 Aug 1992 14:00:41 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company

In article <EeVhDM30Bwx24KjjEN@transarc.com>, Megan_DeFrancis@transarc.com writes:
|> 
|> Hi,
|> 
|>  I was flipping through the tv channels yesterday (hunting, not nesting as
|> women are supposed to do!) and I came across a show called "Faerie Tales".
|> It was on at 3:00p on ABC (or at least that's what WTAE in Pittsburgh was
|> showing at that time).  Well, one of the stories was Pinnochio and guess who
|> played one of the bad guys that harasses Pinnochio when he was in the traveling
|> circus with the gypsy?  You guessed it... Michael Richards!  I almost didn't
|> recognize him at first, but that Kramer voice is unmistakable.
|>  I don't know how old this show was, but it featured several stars... Jim
|> Belushi, Carl Reiner and Paul Reubens (PeeWee Herman) as Pinnochio.
|>  Did anyone else happen to see this?
|> 
|> Megan

The shows are recent. They are the product of Shelly Duvall (sp?). There are many
other "Faerie Tales" with lots of other famous actors/actresses.

My $0.02 worth.

Finster
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From: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Reply-To: amm@rtpvl1.enet.dec.com (anita magenheim)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:59:13 GMT


I thought the neo-Nazi detective (who was a real hoot, I thought) had 
covered Kramer's first name up with his hand...

I liked when George tells George Wendt that the "Cheers" bar setting was
getting old, and they should change it.
 
Cheers,
"Lupe" (who likes it tucked)

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"Too many times we stand aside, And let the waters slip away;
 'Til what we put off 'til tomorrow, Has now become today.
 So don't you sit upon the shoreline, And say you're satisfied;
 Choose to chance the rapids, And dare to dance the tide..."

			- "The River", by Garth Brooks
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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: Season premier part 2!
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 07:09:33 GMT

In article <timm.714391890@void> timm@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Coffee_Junkie) writes:
OB>What?  Then what's the joke?  I think the first poster was right.
>No, I know the first poster must be right...you can't roll down the
>windows in squad cars, that's the joke...what would be funny about
>George asking him to close the window?  That's what makes it even
>funnier when they show up at Kramer's place and Jerry reaches his
>hand out to open the door.
Ok, I listened again, with the volume REALLY loud, and George says 
"Hey Jerry, do me a favor, close your window?"

I dunno, maybe the cops can roll down the windows remotely from the 
front seat, and it was a hot day?

(notice that George makes a short pause in his sentence, therefore Jerry
knows that it's not a big favor [like moving furniture :)])

jam

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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Question about teenaged character...
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug21.132938.3883@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel) writes...
> 
>In article <12649@icarus> banner@icarus ( banner@semi.mitel.com ) writes:
>>Who was the guy who played the teenaged hippy (?) that Kramer met in
>>the van an the way to CA in the season opener. The same guy who was
>>telling the cops "And then Kramer said 'Have you ever killed a man?!'"
>>in the Part 2.
>>
>>The character looked awfully familiar...
> 
>     That was Will Wheaton, the guy who plays Wesley Krusher
>on Star Trek (Next Generation).  

THAT was wesley/wil wheaton?!?  ack!

>I should say DID play WK.  That
>horrible character was written out of that horrible show.

horrible? well....  (and it's Crusher, BTW)  
                              ^
>Not to be nitpicking, BUT I think the actual quote was "Have you
>ever killed a man, junior?"  The word junior makes a bit of a
>difference - dontchya think?  I agree, that scene was quite hilarious.

very funny! i didn't know it was him!  time to dash over to the 
r.a.s.hell hierarchy...
:)
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From: soley@localhost.enet.dec.com (Norm Soley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:24:26 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment of Canada

In article <Bsz76p.MG5@apollo.hp.com> heff@ki.ch.apollo.hp.com (God of Thunder) writes:
>
>> The cop's hand covered up the spot where Kramer's first name would be.  And
>> there was some sort of clever way to not reveal the first name when Jerry
>
>It's worse than that, even.  In the shot where we can read the writing on
>the page, the cop's hand covers his first name, but when the camera backs off,
>we see that the page has been torn in about the right place to 
>remove the part of the page that would have his first/middle names.

Did anyone else notice that when Kramer holds up his treatment in the
coffee shop before approaching Fred Savage there is a title only, no "A
movie treatment by ... Kramer"? 

Tsk..Tsk..continuity counts
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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:50:33 GMT

I wonder how they're going to handle Elaine's presence on tonight's
show.

Julia Louis-Dreyfus was VERY pregnant at the end of the season, 
remember, almost too much to hide.

Either they filmed these two "special" episodes right afterwards, or
they'll have to leave her out of the show (she had her baby just last
month, which would be about when they'd have to film tonight's show
according to standard schedules).  Or maybe they filmed just her face in
some "inserts" (a la Susan Saint James on Kate & Allie in a similar
situation), for instance on the phone when the guys check in with her
while having their adventures.  It'll be interesting....

Jon Alan Conrad
From: jjcox@oregon.uoregon.edu (Joshua Cox)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Where's Elaine? (was Re: What IS with Jerry?)
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:39:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Oregon Computing Center

In article <1992Aug15.155341.27448@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel) writes:

>      I heard Jason Alexander interviewed on "Fresh Air", and he
> talked about this problem exactly.  Essentially he copped out and
> said that it used to drive him crazy that Jerry couldn't act
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Given that Jerry can't act his way out of a wet paper sack, who *CARES*?  I sure don't watch the show to see a stand up comic *act*, of all things.  Volunteering my own opinion here, I think Jerry's main role in the show is to be the catalyst, the straight man for the other characters.

Elaine is my favorite character!  Where was she for the season opener?!  No wonder it was a let-down!

-Josh
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From: soup@leland.Stanford.EDU (young-sup lee)
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 19:47:25 GMT

In article <17074@ulysses.att.com> tom@ulysses.att.com (Tom Smith) writes:

>Let's get them back to NYC, in the coffeeshop, as soon as possible.

C'mon: every show has a couple of episodes "on vacation"  (e.g. brady bunch
in grand canyon, jeffersons in hawaii).  let our guys travel too.

and as for your "too much plot/not enough dialog" gripe:  i thought the
TUCK sequence and the THREE STOOGES monologue were a hoot.  i just didn't
like the showing of dead people; that's all.

ys
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From: lenkeit@firebird.rtp.dg.com (Matt Lenkeit)
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:36:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

|> 
|> Not to digress too much, but...
|> 
|> Yea, Clint Howard I think is his name.  I feel sorry for that guy, if you
|> remember he was the little kid/star on "Gentle Ben" many years ago.  I have
|> to keep reminding myself of that whenever he pops up on some show.
|> 
|> Talk about type-cast, that guy gets only "ugly" roles on TV.  When they
|> want to cast some ugly, villianous character, that's who they pick - and
|> he's pretty ugly looking - on "Gentle Ben" he was cute.  He also appears (I
|> think it's him) on some music video for the Ramones ('I Want to Be
|> Sedated', maybe?).  They evidentally wanted to show a bunch of
|> crude/dirty/rough punkish looking kids and there he is (dancing yet!).  Can
|> somebody confirm that, since there are no credits in the video?

Not to digress even more, but this guy was also in a few other lesser
know movies. He was in "The Wraith" with Charlie Sheen - back before
Sheen was anybody and in "Cotton Candy" a movie about some HS band.

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From: msante@ptdca0.intel.com (Mark Santesson)
Subject: Re: Kramer's first name revealed??
Organization: Portland Technology Development, Intel Corp., Aloha, OR
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 21:05:20 GMT

In article <Bt8L0C.GFp@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.213952.10283@cabezon.uucp>, markco@cabezon.uucp (Mark Collins) writes...
>>Am I the only one who noticed that in the first (post-olympic) 
>>epsiode the security guard at the gate yelled 'hello' to the 
>>driver of the convertible that crashed through the barricade 
>>without stopping? 
>>I assumed this was Kramer (couldn't see the driver even on 
>>video replay)  based on the previous scene (can't remember 
>>exactly the tie-in now). Anyway the guard said "Hello, 
>>Michael". Is this a reference to Kramer's first name? 
>
>i think:
>the security guard wasn't an actor but a real security guard and they 
>were using the real gate to the studios, and the guy
>flubbed and called him by his real name (michael richards, right?) and 
>the editors didn't catch it. 
>
>IMHO.

I figured that the security guard just THOUGHT it was Michael Richards...
after all, Kramer and Michael Richards look a lot alike.

;^)


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From: pwy6d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (The terminalator)
Subject: Re: disappointment with season opener
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:10:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.160320.17258@eng.umd.edu> seifert@eng.umd.edu (Earl Scott Seifert) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.092034@ties.bell-atl.com> df2tg2n@shoes.bell-atl.com writes:
>
>This guy has been in a *lot* of stuff but my favorite was the first
>episode (I think it was the first) of Star Trek (not "The
>Cage/Menagerie"). He is this dwarf guy who possesses a vastly superior
>intellect (no!) but since his appearance is less than intimidating he
>broadcasts the pale, sunken-cheeked, skull-like face that is featured
>in the closing credits of every episode.
>
>
>-- 
>                                       	 Scott Seifert
>				         seifert@eagle.larc.nasa.gov
>                                         seifert@eng.umd.edu

The name of the episode was "The Corbamite Maneuver," but was that
really him?  I thought they had a midget (vertically challenged
person) playing that role.   It seems like if that was Howard, he
would have had to have been a kid to have pulled that off.

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From: salomone@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (John ($al) Salomone)
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:18:46 GMT

|> >	On the season premiere, didya notice the cover to
|> >Kramer's script which was found on the dead girl's body ?
|> >	It was torn, but it had 'Kramer' typed on it as if it
|> >was a last name.
|> >	Hmmm...
|> 
|> No flame intended, but you guys are toooo anal!

That's what this newgroups is for, silly!

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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Clint Howard (was Re: disappointment with season opener)
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 06:26:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.160320.17258@eng.umd.edu> seifert@eng.umd.edu (Earl Scott Seifert) writes:
>This guy has been in a *lot* of stuff but my favorite was the first
>episode (I think it was the first) of Star Trek (not "The
>Cage/Menagerie"). He is this dwarf guy who possesses a vastly superior
It's "The Corbomite Maneuver"

jam

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From: ks@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (kevinr swaggerty)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:42:45 GMT

phickey@eng.clemson.edu (patrick joseph hickey) writes:


>I have a strange feeling we are going to be seeing Jay Leno on the show.

This is not good, I watch Seinfeld, not the Tonight Show and I wouldn't 
care to see Mr. Leno, David Letterman perhaps but not Jay Leno.  

Kevin Swaggerty

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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: Seinfeld's pink triangle
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:40:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.195203.19257@sei.cmu.edu> bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas) writes:
>
>If this has been discussed before, my apologies.
>
>Is there any significance to the inverted pink triangle that
>appears in the Seinfeld logo?  I'm curious as to whether it's
>a statement in support of gay/lesbian/bisexual groups.

Upside down pink triangle? It must mean that the show is against of
gay/lesbian/bisexual groups. :)

Remote control goof up caused me to record about 20 seconds of The
Weather Channel over last Wednesday's episode :( At least i didn't
reocrd over the Corbin Bernson part. I do think he was playing the
Seinfeld theme song with his hands.

What's the deal with people replying to part of someone's post and not
deleteing the rest of the article? Do we really need to see the part of
the article they didn't need to comment on? Sheesh!

jam
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From: teague@acavax.lynchburg.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: request for episode guide
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:31:43 -0500
Organization: Lynchburg College


Is an episode guide available? ... would appreciate a copy.
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From: dp35@mc1adm.UWaterloo.ca (Greg Moore)
Subject: Re: New episode, Wed., 8-12-92
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:53:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.171950.8951@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> kdontas@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Chris Eccleston) writes:
>	On the season premiere, didya notice the cover to
>Kramer's script which was found on the dead girl's body ?
>	It was torn, but it had 'Kramer' typed on it as if it
>was a last name.
>	Hmmm...

No flame intended, but you guys are toooo anal!