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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Superman 75 (no spoilers)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:13:48 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


Well I haven't read it yet, but wanted to comment on the extras. The
"stamps" were really bad. I thought they would at leat try to make
them look like a stamp a little bit. The obituary is on a newspaper
type paper, with the Superman artile on it, but ripped off at the
bottom. Kind of cool. The Armband is nice. Its on heavy ribbon, and
the "S" is in a reflective red. It is in the inside of the book, so
don't panic if you don't see it right away. There is also a fold out
poster of the picture which on the back of DC Direct Current 58. To
bad the folds are in it. It is a nice poster.

-- 
 Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive at
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu       130.215.24.1
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman, Superman, Everybody's talking about Superman ...
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:53:22 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:

}The store I manage is selling Superman #75 for $25.00 (briskly) and PAYING
}$13.00 for them (that's Canadian bucks, bucko).

}Gouging?  NO WAY.

Yes way.

}Think about it this way:  We put twenty copies in the back, "just in case".
}Then, two days after release, the store across the corner from us starts 
}selling them for substantially over cover, and paying $10.00 for them.  So
}if we sold the books for less than $11.00 each (as we give a 10% discount to
}just about everyone) whoever bought them could turn around and make a profit
}from them.  Selling them for cover price would be INREDIBLY STUPID for the
}retailer.

Gouging is still gouging, no matter how many stores engage in it and no
matter who "started it".  Think about it this way:  So what if the store
across the corner is selling them for over cover?  So what if someone
could buy it from you at cover and then sell it over there at a profit?
What skin is it off *your* nose that that person made that profit?

Think about it this way:  Those issues that you are selling for $25, how
much did *YOU* pay your distributor for them?  The normal price for a $2.50
cover price comic?  Hmmmm, so how come it's not "INCREDIBLY STUPID" for
the distributor to be selling them at the normal price?  Would your feeling
of "Gouging?  NO WAY" be the same if your distributor started charging you
$12 or $25 or more instead of the normal price?

Stupid rationalizations don't cut it.  You *are* gouging, plain and simple.
Hey, all's fair in a free market.  I may not like the gouging, but I don't
really fault you much for it.  But at *least* have the damned honesty to
call it what it is, ok?

--James Preston
From: loos@amber.mgh.harvard.edu (William D.B. Loos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Million Year Picnic in Boston - Fire
Keywords: Fire
Date: 23 Nov 92 06:13:00 GMT
Organization: Molecular Biology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov22.042444.5354@stsci.edu>, wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor Morgan) writes...

>I must have been spoiled, because I haven't found a store
>since which paid such attention to its customers.  When I go back to
>Cambridge (maybe twice a year), I always stop by.  A few of the old
>workers (such as Tony) still remember me and take time to talk.  I
>hope they don't go out of business.  Believe me, a place like that is
>one of the good ones.
> 
>Was anybody hurt?  I'll be sending a card up there tomorrow.

I haven't heard that anyone was hurt -- I believe it happened when the stores
were closed.  I spoke with Tony on Friday and he seemed to have no doubts that
they'll be open in the same location within 4 or 5 months.  Apparently their
insurance was paid up and it will take care of cleaning and rebuilding.  Stock
is another matter -- they were about to go and start the detailed inventory.
However, a substantial portion, maybe even most of it, was warehoused, so 
that's safe.  The greatest loss will probably be the bin of Silver Age comics.
I was a wooden glass-covered bin with holes in the top for flipping the comics.
The fire itself was actually on the second floor of the building.  Water seeped
down into MYP and collected in the bin.  Since they bag their comics with the
opening at the bottom the water got in and traveled up the spine of every one
("every" being based on a quick look).  Insurance will pay something and most
likely some portion will turn out to be salvagable.

Some asked about Wordsworth.  Wordsworth did not burn (thank you!).  Only shops
in that one building were damaged.  It was a mini-mall with seven stores, the
others being Gnomon Copy, a poster store, and others.  All have relocated.

In addition to everything else, it's a great place for Duck lovers.  The owner
(co-owner?) is a personal friend of Carl Barks (she even shows up in one of
his paintings -- "July Fourth in Duckburg").  She had quite a few Barksian
objects (like autographed copy #5 of The Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald 
Duck).  Here's hoping the weren't in the store ...


William D.B. Loos
loos@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: ied1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ingrid de Beus)
Subject: Re: Tintin Cronology
Reply-To: ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:32:11 GMT


>In article <1992Nov16.232144.15862@sco.com>, jasona@sco.COM (
Successfully putting my elbow in my ear ) writes: 
>|> 
>|> Oh my God, like yngvar@imr.no (Yngvar Foelling) totally lost it: 
>|> *- BTW, what is its name in different languages? The Norwegian translators 
>|> *- have been a bit confused, calling it either Moulinsart (probably the
>|> *- original), and "Mllenborg" (Lacking ISO 8859-1: Mollenborg
>|> *- with a slash 
>|> *- across the first "o"), which means something like "The Mill Castle."

In English, the name is "Marlinspike Hall".  The translators tossed
out any reference to a french name, and chose an arbitrary english-
sounding name for the house.  Looks like a nice place to live in <sigh>.

ingrid-

-- 
	Ingrid Elvire Maria de Beus a.k.a. ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
	My old .sig was quite pessimistic, so here's an improvement:
	 a Blake's 7 quote that works as a Quantum Leap reference!
      "We've come at the worst possible time -- of course."  (Kerr Avon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Hellblazer #61
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:35:48 GMT

An above-average issue of Hellblazer.  Ennis is at his best with
quiet moments, restrained horror, and drama that doesn't try to
become melodrama.  In this issue he's writing to those strengths,
and it's a pity he doesn't do so more often.  (One of these days
Ennis is going to kill Kit off, gruesomely, just for a cheap
effect, and I'm not looking forward to that.)

It's also refreshing that he has shifted the longer-term storyline
from one in which the Devil is plotting to have Constantine for
breakfast to one in which Constantine is the one doing the plotting.
I think it shows a nice grasp of what makes the title, and the
character, work.

As always, we are left with very mixed messages about Constantine's
level of power and ability.  The Devil seems to think that what
Constantine did here took extraordinary power.  On the other hand
the impression persists that what we are seeing here is not power,
so much as sheer gall.

I liked the bit at the end.  I think it's meant to suggest that
the Devil's sense of humor is severely limited.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

Roses red and violets blew
  and all the sweetest flowres that in the forrest grew -- Edmund Spenser
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: debg@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ginsberg deborah)
Subject: Re: Million Year Picnic in Boston - Fire - Who cares?  I do!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:43:16 GMT
Keywords: Fire

Some people may have the impression that Million Year Picnic was just your
average comic shop - just the new titles, a few back issues, etc.  However
(IMO?) it is one of the MAJOR comic book shops - it had an extensive
collection of back issues and memorabilia that you don't often see.  There are
a number of shops that I would be interested in hearing about
(as well as I think other comic readers) if something
happened to:  Newbury Comics, MYP, Mile High Comics, Forbidden Planet, Moon-
dogs, etc.  There are others, but I'm forgetting them.  
The shops we buy at are a singificant part of how/what/why we read/collect
comics.  Why not give some extra (net) recognition to those stores which
are exemplary?


Debbie
(look - yet another uiuc'ian.  Aren't there any Brown students on this thing?)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mkelly@goya.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: Re: DC: Superman's death coverage
Reply-To: mkelly@goya.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:41:07 GMT


 canevit@utkvx3.utk.edu (Canevit, Craig Eugene) writes:

|> 	Hey! Could various people out there in net-land summarize
|> whatever coverage Superman's death receives in the media? I no
|> longer have cable, nor do I get around to reading multiple newspapers.

NPRs Morning (should that be Mourning?) Edition and ABC NIghtly News both
had stories from a mall in Northern NJ and interviews with Louise Simonson.
She recounted the story about how the Superman creative teams 'facetiously'
decided to kill Superman. I was screaming at the TV and Radio (well, thinking
about screaming ;) that maybe we should kill her and Dan Jurgens, or at least
Jonni DC.

The Thursday NY Times, B2 had a short article as well, but this focused on 
the 'wake' at DC comics.

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@doc.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                    + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Tintin Cronology
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:18:22 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.2.12

Any news about the Tintin cartoon that's s'posed to be out from Nelvana?  
I haven't heard hide nor hair of it.  Our local multicultural station showed
several French cartoons (not _Lake of the Sharks_), but the Nelvana ones are
s'posed to be new.

Post to the newsgroup, please.  Not to the below Email address.

Widya Santoso

-- 
Tonio Loewald | tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au | Life is short. Be nice.
"You can lie/You can cry/For all the good it'll do you, you can
die/But when it's done/And the police come/And they lay you down
for dead/Just remember what I said" (Paul Simon-not the senator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG)
Subject: Faust, Crow and Springheel Jack
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 19 Nov 1992 22:36 EST  

Hi.

I'm always on the look out for good books to try and I was wondering if 
anyone has read and would recommend either Faust, the Crow or Springheel 
Jack.  The latest ads in CBG from Rebel Studios looks very intriquing so 
I'm curious about anything else that they put out also. 

 - Wayne. 
 =========================================================================
    W     A     Y     N     E     .     A     .     W     O     N     G
 =========================================================================
                                                SEWON@LIMS01.LERC.NASA.GOV
From: gt9291b@prism.gatech.EDU (Patrick Aikens)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman 75 (no spoilers)
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:53:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Nov19.201036.37557@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN) writes:

>Incidentally, it was strange to see that 2 out of 3 comic shops here
>had SOLD OUT of the newsstand version -- the remaining store was
>limiting them to 1 copy per person, whereas the bagged copies were
>in abundance with no limit whatsoever.
>
>Has anyone else noticed this in other areas?

Yeah, my comic shop sold out of it in about 2 hours.  *sigh*

-- 
Patrick Aikens            |  ()_()  "How can I laugh tomorrow
Georgia Tech CS Major     |   (_)    When I can't even smile today."
gt9291b@prism.gatech.edu  |          Suicidal Tendencies

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: For those that are sick of the Legion of net.heroes
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 09:02:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.223658.7342@cis.ohio-state.edu> friedman@moon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark "Crimson" Friedman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.212607.9649@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>>In any case, as the numbers pile up it looks like a better and better idea all
>>the time.  The vote is 40-12.
>
>...and we all know that the straw poll is a totally accurate
>mind-reading interface to the opinions of the *entire* Usenet
>community, right?
>
	And the official RFD's and CFV's do!?  As if _anything_ can?

>I mean, it's just *so* unlikely that many, many people aren't
>participating simply because they think it's an incredibly ludicrous
>idea and don't subscribe to such self-efficacious tripe...

	"self-efficacious"?   :-)

	A lot of people don't participate in official CFV's either.
A lot of people don't vote in elections because they think the whole
political system is a crock.  This is just a little straw poll--don't take it 
so seriously.

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: kevin@rauland.UUCP (Kevin Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Image Leaves Malibu
Summary: Image
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:19:14 GMT
Organization: Zenith Electronics Corp.

In article <1992Nov11.071654.1811@sol.UVic.CA>, jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
> According to Pat O'Neill (editor of Wizard) on the Comics-L mailing list,
> Image has "amicably" parted with Malibu.  What this means for the group,
> who knows.  O'Neill says that the chances of success of the group staying
> viable as a loosely-affiliated group of creators is about as much as him
> becoming king of the world...:)
> 
> Good news for all Image-bashers, I'd say, myself included.
> 
> -------
> Scowling Jim Cowling
> Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
> -------

I've posted the following but haven't seen it anywhere so here it goes again.

I have just attended a convention (Great Eastern Convention) in Chicago on 
Sunday (11/15).  The guests were Larry Stroman (of X-Factor and Darkstar fame)
and Todd Johnson (new kid on the block).  These two guys will be producing an
upcoming book from Image called Tribe.  Larry Stroman is the artist and Todd
Johnson is the writer (his major league debut).  The book is to come out 
sometime in March and the coloring of the book will be done similar to the
technique used in Cyberforce (according to Stroman and Johnson).

For those of you who collect cards there's a magazine called ARENA MAGAZINE
which contain interviews with Stroman and Johnson about their book, Tribe.
And as an added bonus, there is a card inserted with the magazine which
feature one of the characters from Tribe called Steelpulse (this character
looked like a cross combination of Wolverine, Wolfsbane from New Mutants,
Strype, Colossus and few others).  Oh, the issue number of the magazine is 5
and is either out already or is suppose to come out sometime this month.

Enough of them...back to main discussion.

I had a long (about 15 minutes) discussion with these two guys to get some
inside information about Image Comics.  I even asked them about the rumor/fact
posted by *Jim Scowling* (see above) but they didn't deny the story nor 
confirm it.  However, the expression from them told me that it's a fact.
On the other hand, they did mention that there will be definite crossovers 
with DC in near future.  Also, the comic books are to come out as scheduled
(as it has been 8-) ).

Someone at the convention was spreading a rumor about DC taking over the task
of Malibu for Image Comics.  Can anyone verify this ?

Later...

-- 
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Zenith Electronics Corporation, Rauland Division, Information Systems Dept. 
2407 North Avenue, Melrose Park, IL 60160    (708) 450-8135, FAX (708) 450-2312
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Brainstorm: How DC will bring Superman back from the dead
Keywords: Ressurection Central
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:35:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Nov18.193549.14291
Organization: Smiley Abolition Front


Here's an idea. Clark Kent/Kal-El stays dead, but Superman comes
back. Yes, in the grand tradition of Robin, Flash, et al.,
someone else puts on the costume. Who does this?

Well, Lar-Gand is busy, and Mon-El is no more (and never was),
but there are plenty of other Daxamites running around. We just
have one of them move to Earth and put on the cape.

Only one problem: Brainiac-5 won't invent the lead serum for
another thousand years.  I just don't see Superman II saying "Oh
no, that villain's gun is firing *lead* *bullets*! I'm helpless!"
-- 
Andrew Michael Solovay    

"We know that Solovay is a misogynist and an idiot..."
                --Melinda Shore
From: mkelly@chaucer.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Ramblings and Rumors
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:37:37 GMT
Reply-To: mkelly@chaucer.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


 chrstnss@rtsg.mot.com (Steve Christianson) writes:

|> The manager of the store at which I frequent has been _very_ hot about this
|> whole "death of Superman" situation.  He told me that DC "neglected" to say
|> that this might be an extremely hot story arc, and consequently under-
|> solicited these issues.  When the dealers found out the implications of
|> the arc, they went back to DC to resolicit, but DC said "sorry, we can't
|> print any more; maybe second prints will be available".

Oh, Puh-leeze! Was this guy asleep at the wheel or what? I seem to remember
reading about the upcoming Doomsday storyline in a variety of sources, including
Previews, which would have given *me* a chance to preorder as many as I wanted.
(no flames about different distributors -I saw plenty of advance notice
elsewhere)

Also, doesn't this guy remember "A Death in the Family"? 

I have little sympathy for a dealer who sees himself as a "purveyor of hot
comix" more than a middleman between a publisher and *consumer*.

|>  The results?  An
|> instant speculator's dream, regular readers of the titles can't get the
|> issues they *read*, and second (and perhaps third?) prints available only 
|> three weeks after the original issues were sold out. 

What? Don't speculators do nothing else but dream that the books they buy
are going to shoot up in value? The 2nd and 3rd prints practically destroy
the value of a book, no? 

Oh listen, I really don't want to go on with this. I just worry about an 
artistic market being turned into a speculation driven market. It is bad
enough when the fans start doing it, but when publishers and then store
owners....Argh.

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@doc.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                    + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: ssircar@canon.com (Subrata Sircar)
Subject: Re: _Debt of Honor_ (some spoilers)
To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: ssircar@canon.com (Subrata Sircar)
Organization: SPAMIT
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:50:30 GMT

rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>I thought Scotty's accent was a tad overdone, too.  (Has Scotty *ever* used
>the word "bairns" on-screen?  I'm *sure* he hasn't used it *nearly* as much
>as comics and fanfic seem to think.)

Yes, but only first season (as far as I remember).

>I don't remember who the other woman was.

Dr. Carolyn Palmas (sp?) was the love interest of Apollo in "Who mourns for
Adonis?", I think.  The James Blish version of the script mentioned that she
was pregnant at the end of that story; PAD has mentioned that he'd like to do
a story following up on that.

>>(Can anyone identify the "Excalibur sessions"?)

I thought this was a pun on the comic "Excalibur", which has mentioned Cats
Laughing several times; the Marvel Swimsuit Issue has a picture of Kitty
Pryde onstage with Lila Cheney and Cats Laughing.

>I didn't get the feeling at all that she was meant to be Kirk's daughter,
>mainly because 1) As you say, there was no time for anything to have
>happened between them, and 2) Surely Kirk would have picked up on these
>"hints" you saw and have had some reaction.

I did, but ignored it for the same reasons.  However, I was curious if anyone
else thinks T'cel looks like ... the Romulan Commander from the cloaking
device episode.

-- 
Subrata Sircar | ssircar@canon.com | Prophet & SPAMIT Charter Member
Canon Information Systems and I do not speak for each other on all things.
"I wish people wouldn't instantly assume that I am an idiot." (Valentine)
"A restaurant is a whorehouse that does food instead of sex." (Roger Lustig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: For those that are sick of the Legion of net.heroes
Organization: The Little Squids of the Poor
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:30:05 GMT

Perhaps the most graceful way out of this is just to ask that those
who post LNH material stick to putting 'LNH:' into their subject. 
Most do already, but it isn't universal. Then when the stray 
LNH article wanders through without the label, someone can send some
e-mail, as is presently done with X-topics and For Sale/Wanted articles.

I'm not a big fan of LNH, but I imagine people get tired of Suicide
Squid posts and the occasional PAD thread. (You mean PAD isn't a 
creation of the net?) 

No sense in drawing up sides if we don't have to.
--
  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "Quick! Get behind me! I don't know what a
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  little peanut like you could do to so upset
     Absinthe makes the    |  him, but it looks like Doomsday really wants 
      time grow softer     |  to kill you"    _Mr Peanut meets Superman_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: jasona@sco.COM ( Successfully putting my elbow in my ear )
Subject: Re: Tintin Cronology
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:21:44 GMT
Keywords: Sound Effects


Oh my God, like yngvar@imr.no (Yngvar Foelling) totally lost it:
*- BTW, what is its name in different languages? The Norwegian translators
*- have been a bit confused, calling it either Moulinsart (probably the
*- original), and "Mllenborg" (Lacking ISO 8859-1: Mollenborg with a slash
*- across the first "o"), which means something like "The Mill Castle."

Actually, I've found it funny how the sound effects are different all around
the world. The most notable are guns, dogs, cats and cows:


		Gun	Dog		Cat		Cow
		---     ---             ---             ---
English		Bang	Bark/Woof/Grrr	Meow		Mooo
French		Pan	????		Minnew?		???

I've seen them in several diffent languages, but unfortunately I can't remember
the exact spelling (my collection being 300 miles away). Anybody have any other
common sound effects from other countries?

i,jasona