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From: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Bucher)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: conventions
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:03:21 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23734

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 Quoting Bill Burgess to Tandy Way 29 Jul 92 21:23:02

 BB> On the subject of
 BB> conventions, I have no idea what they cost on average for registration
 BB> and accommodation.

Hello Bill, rooms at ACB conventions are usually about $45.00 to $50.00
per night, at least that's what they've been since Richmond in 1989.
If you want the convention program the registration fee is but $5.00.
But I warn you, once you go you're hooked!  At least that's what
happened to me.  I may miss San Francisco but have gone to several.
Hope this helps.  Keith Bucher.

... On a clear disk you can seek forever

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From: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Stew Bowden)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re:
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:13:05 GMT
Reply-To: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23799

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Jamal: I agree that the philosophies of the two organizations
differ considerably. However, what many in NFB perceive as
progressive, I perceive as militent. If that organization could
reexamine its tactics, and if ACB could become just a bit more
progressive, then, perhaps the two organizations could work
together to bring about positive results regarding issues which
truly matter, not only for the blind, but they also have
implications for other groups with disabilities. I seriously doubt
that I shall ever seen the day when the two organizations become
one. After all, as territorial as both have been, it's rather
unrealistic to expect that either would give up what they consider
their hard-earned territory. On the other hand, it seems to me
conceivable that the two just might be able to work together one
day. I certainly hope so. Thanks for the message and see you later.
Stew

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From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: TDD RELAY SERVICE
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:30:04 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23900

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 LL> Steven, all phone calls are not recorded on magnetic
 LL> tape.  There are so many calls that happen
 LL> concurrently, and the magnitude of total calls is so
 LL> large, that capturing all conversations on tape would be impossible.

Uh...er...Leti, all phone calls are recorded on magnetic tape,
but the conversations aren't.  There has to be a magnetic
listing of all phone calls made in order to bill the parties
for the calls.  Everything is computerized now, so it is a
very simple process.

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From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Marijuana
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:57:46 GMT
Reply-To: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE
X-Fidonet: Able News Conference

Index Number: 23695

[This is from the AbleNews Conference]

 To: buckij@stolaf.edu (Jonathan Bucki)
 JB> My question about this article is this:
 JB> Is maryjuana used by many disable people
 JB> as a "treatment?" Regardless of what
 JB> the FDA says, other people in the real
 JB> world will witness to its medicinal
 JB> qualities.

Marijuana has been found to reduce muscle spasms.  It also relieves
the pressuse in those with glacoma.  There is an organization call
PALM, which works toward the legalazation for meical purpose.
Paraplegic Association for Leagalization of Marijuana.  They are
based in DC.

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From: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: GUIDE DOG BLUES
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:09:30 GMT
Reply-To: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23776

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi all,

Just a bit of a comment pertaining to my previous posts on the
matter of Dog guides, pet deposits, hotels and state legislation.

I am sad to report that after some contact with N.F.B., Sue
Sullivan at the Social services department of Guide Dogs for The
Blind and the California State Guide Dog Board as well, that dog
guide legislation is not exactly as seriously applied and as
functional as it seems exacting in the way that it is written.  In
short, despite legislation seemingly to the contrary, landlords, if
they really want, can most certainly get away with charging a pet
deposit because of a dog guides presence!

The good news is, after January 1st, dog guide legislation will
become more clearly prohibitive in the matter of charging applying
pet deposit to a dog guide. At least, that will be so in
California.

To darken things further, as some of you know, I am leaving for a
trip to Maine and Massachusetts Wednesday morning. Interestingly,
Kris, who will be my traveling companion, decided it might be fun
to spend a night at very nice hotel in Cape Cod Mass.

Kris made arrangements through triple A and they contacted two very
nice hotels at the cape. Both hotels had vacancies. Sounds good,
right? Well, guess what gang, as soon as they found out we were
traveling with a dog guide, both hotels said "no way!"  The triple
A travel representitive told each hotel manager or owner that
Massachusetts law prohibits refusal of occupancy in a motel or
hotel because of the presence of a dog guide. Just the same, and
even though each hotel is aware of the law, one manager simply
refused to discuss the matter with the triple A agent and the other
manager was very polite but offered some Jive story about someone
having an allergic reaction. Massachusetts law says such refusal of
occupancycan cost them fines of up to three hundred dollars. On top
of this, these hotels are triple A affiliated!

The triple A agent is helping file compliants against both hotels
since they specifically told the triple A agent, who is a third
party, that we are being refused occupancy because of my Guide Dog.
Even so, such parties can often get around the dog guide
legislation by claiming that they are disallowing occupancy for
some other reason.

So folks, we are'nt as well protected as we might think we are!
Vixen is begining to think she has found a cause that just might
deserve some militancy! By the way, the hotels that are refusing me
occupancy because of my Guide Dog are, "The Coral Sands and the
Seaside Village" both in Cape Cod Massachusetts. I think they
should be prized with the International Ignoramus of the year
award!

See you all soon!

Keepin' the faith!

.                            Vixen

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From: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Pike)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen Reader
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:00:08 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/49 - Calliope's Den, Garrison NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23712

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

David Tanner writes:

 DT>         Yes, she said that since she was a programmer
 DT> and had the programming skills that she could handle
 DT> the POWL language and solve her problems.  That should
 DT> be a strong indicator to you that even she knew that
 DT> without the programming skills she would not have been
 DT> able to solve the problems.

As I said in a previous append, I talked to Dennis who helped Tracy
with her problem.  The solution to her problem involved no
programming.  The solution to her problem was to add an extra
option to the application package.  No programming involved.

Just the facts.

/Greg

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From: janina@netcom.com (Janina Sajka)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: b n s
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:37:29 GMT
Reply-To: janina@netcom.com (Janina Sajka)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23967

The cable you need is available from Blazie for an extra $39, I
think.  But there's another way to share one synthesizer between
two computers.  You could use a simple A B switch box which costs
about $20.  Hook one computer to A and the other to B and run your
software on both.  Then you can simply flip a switch to use one or
the other.
From: Wayne.Briggs@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Wayne Briggs)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: General Interest
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:59:03 GMT
Reply-To: Wayne.Briggs@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109.0 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 23704

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

zContact a Pain Clinic at a major teaching hospital or a medical school.
Others folks terll me directlocal injections of trigger points & TENs
unit may help. Also ask MD for referal to OT for deep massage to make
scars supple & soft & this can reduce pain from nerves goingthru scars.
This has been helpful to me. Hot baaths or spas & cold packs also
sometimes  work. Because of age, Dr. should OK any heat or
Spa.Anti-deressant medication is non-addicting and increases thr pain
threshold.

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From: David.Bond@p0.f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org (David Bond)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Text Scan/read For Vh?
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:56:43 GMT
Reply-To: David.Bond@p0.f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/810.0 - Electronic Library, Denver CO

Index Number: 23687

 SF> know what type of scanning/print reading systems are currently
 SF> out there which would be suitable as a print reading system for
 SF> the visually impaired.

Steve-

I use a system from Arkenstone and it incorporates a HP Scan Jet Plus, and a
card that I think comes from Calera.  Arkenstone writes the software and
markets the product through nationwide delers and what you can do is call
Arkenstone to locate a deler.  Call (west coast time) 1-800-444-4443.  This
system has the best reputation at the present time among blind users and I
am thoroughly pleased with it.  The software is designed to allow the novice
to perform scanning quite easily but also allows the advanced computer user
to "dig deeper" and perform very fine tuned scans.  Three interfaces allow
you to work the system- 1.) Easyscan, very easy and well suited for general
scanning and for use by the novice; 2.) Arkscan, presents a different
interface that accomplishes what Easyscan does but with a few additions; and
3.) from the command line the advanced user has a large range of options
that can be highly fine tuned and if you like writing batch files, this can
be a very good way to make your own customized scanning program.

I hope I don't sound like a sales person, I'm not, I am just a satisfied
customer.  You can get the exact price for the system when you call, but I
think the going price for the system I have (Model E) is around $3800.  I
have been hearing about some other products with prices less than that but I
have also heard that the old saying "you get what you pay for" is valid with
scanning systems.  You can also look into the "OSCAR from T.S.I. (Tele
Sensoryaids Inc.) in CA (sorry no phone #), or call Zerox and ask about the
Kursweil Personal Reader. (KPR).

Hope this helps.

Dave

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From: Daniel.Laflin@f98.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Daniel Laflin)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Poll
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:28:59 GMT
Reply-To: Daniel.Laflin@f98.n374.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:374/98 - The SCAM, Rockledge FL
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23895

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

AS>I just wanted you to understand that ALL phone calls are monitored
AS>randomly in the US and I'm sure in other countries too.  There's
AS>not much we can do about that - they do it for reasons that are
AS>understandable but I don't believe the conversations are ever
AS>printed or broadcast.  Even BBSes are monitored...

  ANY monitoring of ANY phone call by way of voice etc can be seen as a
  invasion of privacy at least in florida where we have a strong state
  privacy law.

    With a Relay service you are agreeing to the Monitoring, in the
    sense you agree to, or acknoledge the person relaying can see/know
    whats said, however i doubt that any such agreement extends to
    monitoring beyond that person relaying for you and any such would be
    a violation of florida law.

      Any monitoring of even a voice to voice call, unless court ordered
      is a flat violation of fla law.

     With a BBS, you join, you are TOLD that there ARE NO! private
     communications, no one using a bbs expects any mssgs posted in any
     area to be fully private.

       Relay and voice to voice however are different, It can be other
       states however are not as strong in protecting privacy, here in
       fla its protected in state laws.

        State law is over any telephone rules, bell south and others
        have to obey Fla laws, at least in inttrastate calls.

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From: Steve.Richards@f101.n277.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Richards)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Jaws Stuff
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:08:33 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Richards@f101.n277.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:277/101 - House Of Pancakes, Morgantown WV
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23769

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message 07-31-92 (22:37) From: TANDY WAY To: KELLY FORD
TW>I suspect I am much more demanding and have a wider variety of software that
TW>is in use here. if it works for you fine but experienced speech users find i
TW>is more bother than it is worth. asap does the same thing it is commonly
TW>refered to as artificial intellegence but it falls way short of the mark.

Amen, brother.  I've not tried the Jaws smart screen, but the demo of
ASAP I tried talked my ear off in some programs, but some difficult
light bar menus never got spoken at all.  The artificial intelligence
wasn't too awfully intelligent, it seems.  Doing some configuring might
be more work initially, but afterward what you want spoken gets spoken
and the rest of the garbage gets ignored, so I think it's worth the
little extra effort.  Apparently you do too.
Steve R.

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From: Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Tandy Way)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Flipper and 486
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:06:18 GMT
Reply-To: Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23753

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

thought you guys/gals might like to know that flipper 306 on my 486
will not change pitch with capitalization like it does on my 386. I
had to turn the "say caps" in spell mode on to tell the
difference.  I hope this is the worst problem I run in to. also I
had the double speaking problem when I used dos 5.0 ansi.sys and so
I dropped it out of the line completely but must dig out my 3.3 ms
dos disk and try the ansi.sys from there to see if the problem is
cured. boy I love this color screen all those pretty blues and
greens ect. (grin_ Tandy

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From: Arlette.Lefebvre@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Arlette Lefebvre)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Employment equity law
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:56:34 GMT
Reply-To: Arlette.Lefebvre@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL

Index Number: 23686

Dear Patti,

 I am posting the following in several conferences, because
 it BOTHERS ME..and I'm not sure why..and I'd like your opinion
 on this...

 This is one of the Disability Network "vignettes" which I'd
 marked with a "!?!?" before...and here's how Iexplain my
 ambivalence:

 Is a FINE really the way to tackle underemployment of disabled
 individuals in Canada...?

 What are the chances of this resulting in real shifts in salary
 and power equity ...as opposed to rush-rush hirings of any
 disabled applicant just to meet the criteria outlined...?

 Will tokenism make things better or worse,in the long run...,
 as far as genuine respect for the ABILITY of disabled
 individuals...?

I know..I know..it's a start...and some corporations only respond
to legal clout and fines of this kind... but you know,there's an
old proverb in French that says "You don't catch flies with
vinegar"...I guess I'm really worried that vinegar may make things
even more "sour"...whether it'sfor disabled employees, female
employees,racial minorities or people with AIDS ...isn't there a
more efficient way to promote respect than with a club.....? Just
curious about this... <GRIN> ONTARIO'S EMPLOYMENT EQUITY LAW
NEEDED, DISABLED ADCVOCATE SAYS:

 ___________________________________________________________________

Toronto,June 24.

Eric Schryer, co-ordinator of Disabled People for Employment
Equity, says Ontario's proposed Employment Equity Legislation is
needed to tackle an unemployment and underemployment rate that is
as high as 85% among people with disabilities.

He said that any firm with fewer than 6% disabled employees should
be heavily fined.

He added that, following the model nowused in Germany, the fines
could be used to pay for making the workplace more accessible.

    SOURCE: Globe and Mail, reporter Christina Mungan,p. A7
    CONTACT: Disabled People for Employment Equity,
             (416) 975-8340.

               A bientot, I hope...?

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From: Chuck.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Chuck Hallenbeck)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Braille N Speak Compl
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:05:23 GMT
Reply-To: Chuck.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23747

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 KB> Just kidding you
 KB> about that braille printer. I'd say you might want to consider
 KB> the Juliet or BookMaker. I'm just a little worried that the dot
 KB> height adjustment won't be in the Juliet, but hope so.  I
 KB> should know a lot more about it when the manual comes out.
Hi, Keith.
Glad to know you are just kidding. The TED600 comes in at about $37,500
and I hear pretty bad things about it even at that price. Cindy and I
saw a demo of the Juliet today, and it does look interesting. It is
actually slower than the RB40 unless it is doing interpoint, and then it
matches it. The graphics are terrific. Our braille software used to
generate block letter shapes for a braille graphics mode so we could do
front covers of braille menus with the words "LUNCH" or "DINNER" for
everyone to read by sight and touch. We had a Perkie at the time which
had a graphics mode. Our V-TEK does not have a graphics mode, and Turbo
Braille grew up knowing only about the V-TEK. I may have to revive that
old feature once again. ... See ya. ... Chuck.

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From: Darrell.Shandrow@p0.f11.n2250.z1.fidonet.org (Darrell Shandrow)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Nls And nfb
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:59:11 GMT
Reply-To: Darrell.Shandrow@p0.f11.n2250.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2250/11.0 - Sullivan Radio Shac, Carlinville IL
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23705

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

to: gcampbel@csuchico

i have trouble with the cs type books because there are a lot of margin
notes.   how does one deal with that problem?

73

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From: rperry@atqm.advtech.uswest.com (Roy Perry)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Unique Hand Control
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:27:03 GMT
Reply-To: rperry@atqm.advtech.uswest.com (Roy Perry)
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 23945

In L-HCAP  Issue # 2858, spgreg@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
responds that the manual twist-throttle hand control has been
manufactured by Wells-Engberg for several years now, and moved away
from power-assist due to reliability concerns. In actuality, this
type of unit can only be offered Driving Aids Development
Corporation, since they hold the patent on the power-assist
twist-grip concept.

A conventional manual twist-throttle requires that the driver twist
the grip with enough force to overcome a substantial throttle
return spring, causing fatigue and wrist problems during extended
use. Simply replacing this with a weaker spring has been has been
strongly discouraged by the automobile manufacturers and insurance
companies because of its effect other critical operations, such as
cruise control, and foot pedal operation.

The DADC hand control was developed to alleviate this problem, by
exactly matching the spring's force through air pressure. This unit
actually improves reliability over others. Critical parts are built
to micro-tolerance (.0001 inch) aerospace specifications (including
xray examination). The unit is failsafe, and operates as a manual
twist-grip upon loss of engine vacuum. The unit is approved by the
V.A. and FDA, and meets or exceeds all requirements of SAE J1903
JUL89.

Best of all, DADC operates under a non-profit philosophy, charging
only enough to defray costs, as a service to the  handicapped
community. This is why this advanced unit is offered at around
$350, while other manual units cost up to $600.
From: Warren.Figueiredo@f6.n3800.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Figueiredo)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Spanish
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:06:46 GMT
Reply-To: Warren.Figueiredo@f6.n3800.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3800/6 - CompuChurch (tm) IH, Baton Rouge LA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23756

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

World Braille Usage is an NLS/UNESCO publication. I feel certain that
the Braille Development Section would give you a copy.

Warren

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