HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian F. Redman)
Subject: Re: Help Me
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:58:01 GMT

Mary Blocker <BMSXU@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

>To everyone,
>  Help me and if you need my help and I can be of some service to you
>I will be more then glad to help. I am seeking all types of recipes to
>help my marriage's spice.I like spanish rice and beans and all countries
>foods please help.


>                           Your new e-mail Friend Mary


Is this a joke?


Brian Redman
(bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
"Ah yes, Armageddon. I remember it well."
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: More NPR bias.
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:37:26 EST
Organization: ACME Products

In article <9301120804.AA24184@tba.msi.corne>, harelb@math.cornell.edu writes:

	I don't think they'll take your letter too seriously:

...
> Namely: instead, air-time is given to analyze the mysterious and 
> highly-suspect reasons for the negative coverage given to the 
> President overseeing the worst recession since the Great Depression -- 

	Sorry, that would be Carter Recession I (1980) and Carter Recession II
(1981).

> the member of the two-man 12-year Republican team which oversaw the 
> U.S. starting as the leading lender and becoming the world's Number 
> One debtor nation, all while overseeing a massive transfer of wealth 

	Misleading, we are still #1 creditor nation.

> from the middle class and poor to the wealthy, and the biggest 

	Not true.  The middle class gained the most from the largest peace time
expansion in history (1980s, in case you forgot).

> taxpayer ripoff in history -- the S&L bailout on the backs of ordinary 
> Americans -- rather than the high-rollers who caused the mess -- but 

	Not to mention the stonewalling in 1986 by Jim Wright (D-Texas) and the
Keating Five that prevented Ronald Reagan (yup, Mr. Evil Deregulator) from
imposing stricter regulations on the S&Ls.

Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
	"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction."  Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 08 Jan 93 20:13 PST
Subject: No Subject Line
Nf-ID: #N:9301090410.AA19148@tba.msi.corne:-1628851680:000:480
Nf-From: math.cornell.edu!harelb    Jan  8 20:13:00 1993


From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (Harel Barzilai)



To: mathrich@mizzou1.bitnet,jym@mica.berkeley.edu
Subject: greenpeace posts
--text follows this line--
I just looked carefully at the "newsgroups" lines of the files I saved
from "rn" in my chicago acct which I forwarded to alt.activsim etc al
after checking, on IGC, to make sure jym hadn't posted them there too;
there weren't there, but they are in the "newsgroups" line. Wish PN
would fix their cross-post software...


Harel
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 4 Jan 1993 11:09:10 EST
From: Mary Blocker <BMSXU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Help Me

To everyone,
  Help me and if you need my help and I can be of some service to you
I will be more then glad to help. I am seeking all types of recipes to
help my marriage's spice.I like spanish rice and beans and all countries
foods please help.


                           Your new e-mail Friend Mary
From: nicanet@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Upcoming Events, NY & Nica 1/3/92
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:33:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:awJVwB3w165w@nyxfer.uucp:-802659112:000:2400
Nf-From: nyxfer.uucp!nicanet    Jan  4 15:33:00 1993


Subject: Upcoming Events, NY & Nica 1/3/92
From: nyxfer!nicanet (NicaNet NY)


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From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: How USA-Today Lies
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:27:09 EST
Summary: I'll take this kind of "lying" over MAP's any day.
Organization: ACME Products

In article <9301120337.AA06335@poly.math.cor>, harelb@math.cornell.edu writes:
...
> The earlier parts reveals how the propaganda about the "US feeding the 
> world" was in fact a case of government subsidies to agribusiness; 
> "aid" for grain to be fed to cattle while people starve; was massively 
> skewed toward the developed countries while the most wretchedly poor 
> and starving see very little of this "huge US food export", etc. 

	H*r*l seems to have problems with the following:

	A) That we not only distribute more food than anyone else, we give most
of it away.
	B) We actually let the receiving countries decide what to do with it.

	What concepts!

	Then again, there's the socialist response to starvation: make everyone
equally hungry :).

> In part (4), taken from the recently released and excellent reference 
> work, _We're Number One_, I put up some charts showing the the U.S. is 

	Actually it's a biased source, like most other political books. 
Shapiro only says "look, the US rate is 10/1000!" (for infant mortality),
totally ignoring the fact that the rate has been steadily declining since the
1950s.
	(The current number is 8.9)

> "number one" in being having the *least* (%GNP) development aid, of 
> which is has the *second lowest* percent going to LDCs (Least 
> Developed Countries) where the world's most massive poverty and hunger 
> is, of all 19  western industrialized nations. 

	But then again, our free food doesn't show up under development
programs, does it?
	Nor *must* the US, or any country, send aid to a country that is not
friendly, nor one with which it doesn't think has a good record on (say) human
rights.

Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
	"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction."  Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Re: New Book Exposes ADL as Front for Dope Lobby
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:17:14 GMT

In article <C0GAz2.Ivu@NCoast.ORG> cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton) writes:

>I just don't know how you can say this!   Isn't this just another blow to
>the prestige of the royal family?  All of these scandals and now they lose
>their monopoly over the drug trade.
>
>They have to do something to reassert their position.  Perhaps invading Idaho
>with Hungarian mercenaries.
>
>Got to go.  I've got a "Black (multinational) Helicopter"(tm) to catch....

Right as rain.  Maybe it's time for them to reveal the truth that
other meshugener, Dr. Peter Beter, who died just as he was about to
tell the world about Lyndon Larouche's having acquired a corner in
white peppercorns and old Russian icons.

nm

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser)
Subject: Re: What is United States of America like?
Organization: TECHNET, Singapore
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:23:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.174040.7865@radian.uucp> markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr) writes:
>In article <C0H3HJ.AAG@newsserver.technet.sg> ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes:
>>The fact is, the pin-head civil liberties that are debated most are the least
>>relevant to life as ordinary people live it.
>>
>>Civil libertarians have become fixated on such issues as the fourth amendment
>>and the eighth amendment precisely because the important rights, the right
>>to life, liberty and property, have already been surrendered to the state.
>>
>I see. Y'know, I have a friend who told me about, I believe, someone he knows,
>whose door was knocked down in the middle of the night, whose family was held
>at gunpoint by the cops, who was beat up in front of his family, and severely
>injured (big medical bills), ripped his house apart, and then the cops 
>discovered they were at the wrong address; that the warrant they had for 
>suspected drug dealers was a different house, so they left. Fix anything? 
>Pay for anything? Ha. Ha. Ha. Pin-headed civil libertarians?

I have far more friends who, under the threat of having their life and liberty
confiscated by the IRS, have to pay protection money every month for services
they never receive, much less ever wanted in the first place.

Yes, friends of friends like your's exist. But the question is one of
priority. If we are to be concerned about the government's arbitrary
exercise of power shouldn't we begin with the issues that effect the
most people?

I'll take the ACLU-types more serioulsy when they begin taking the Tenth,
Fifth, Ninth, Second, etc. more seriously.

What, after all, is the point of being secure in your possessions from 
unreasonable search and seizure, to be protected by due process, when
reasonableness and due process merely matters of procedure?
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
Subject: Re: What is United States of America like?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:40:40 GMT
Organization: n.o.y.b

In article <C0H3HJ.AAG@newsserver.technet.sg> ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.064823.5779@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>>The exclusionary rule protects our *rights*, like the right of the
>>people to be secure in their persons, houses, and effects...
>
>Oh? When did the exclusionary rule become a defense against IRS seizure
>of property for failure to pay protection monies? Against invasion of
>privacy by ever-encroaching government regulation?
>
>>Yes, civil liberties are downright silly.
>
>The fact is, the pin-head civil liberties that are debated most are the least
>relevant to life as ordinary people live it.
>
>Civil libertarians have become fixated on such issues as the fourth amendment
>and the eighth amendment precisely because the important rights, the right
>to life, liberty and property, have already been surrendered to the state.
>
I see. Y'know, I have a friend who told me about, I believe, someone he knows,
whose door was knocked down in the middle of the night, whose family was held
at gunpoint by the cops, who was beat up in front of his family, and severely
injured (big medical bills), ripped his house apart, and then the cops 
discovered they were at the wrong address; that the warrant they had for 
suspected drug dealers was a different house, so they left. Fix anything? 
Pay for anything? Ha. Ha. Ha. Pin-headed civil libertarians?

Enjoy your sleep.

	mark

Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: ray.normandeau@factory.com (Ray Normandeau) 
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: NYC HA POLICE SHOOTING 2
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: ray.normandeau@factory.com (Ray Normandeau) 

This is second edition of same press release.
Contact: Ray Normandeau of Queensbridge Tenant Council, 718-392-1267
AFTRA/SAG member Ray Normandeau is available pro bono for interviews

E-mail Internet: ray.normandeau@factory.com
If your E-mail to me is not acknowledged, I didn't get it.

For news by modem call: Normandeau Newswire 212-274-8110, (Newsgroup
# 5, 44 modem only phone lines on Invention Factory BBS). See
accuracy of last year's predictions of New York "psychic" John Monti.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

             Second Shooting at Housing Police in a Week
             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

   New York City Housing Authority Indifferent About Public Safety
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Normandeau Newswire- The shooting of New York City Housing Authority
Police Officer Barbara Cook at the 10 building, 1379 apartment Martin
Luther King Houses housing project January 5, 1993 is actually the
second time in 5 days that shots were taken at Housing Authority
Police.

During the New Year's festivities someone had shot at a Housing
Authority Police car at Astoria Houses, home of deposed NYC HA tenant
leader Violet Hamilton.

Conditions are so bad in some housing projects, that at Queensbridge
Houses a 24 hour store operates with its burglar gates rolled down
and padlocked at night. There is a small opening for sales but no way
to escape in case of fire. It is suspected that the Queensbridge
Houses cleaners has people working all nite behind its rolled down
and locked gates. In 1992 the New York City Housing Authority Police
office at Queensbridge Houses was fire-bombed.

How can anyone forget the shooting of the school principal at Red
Hook Houses.

Why is there so much violence in public housing?

Tenant leaders say that it because NYC HA bureaucrats know that there
is little likelihood of tenants making any waves. So there is no need
to do anything.

Parents of children injured by criminal tenants normally just chalk
it up as something that happens in housing projects.

In Chicago, UPI reported on January 5, 1993 that a mother of a child
killed by a sniper is suing the Chicago Housing Authority, accusing
the CHA of neglect and "utter indifference" to public safety.

How much concern does the New York City Housing Authority show for
public safety in its housing projects? On December 6, 1992 the
Queensbridge Tenant Council faxed NYC HA Chairperson Sally
Hernandez-Pinero to say that a few hours earlier police had arrested
someone who had been shooting from an apartment window at
40-09 Vernon Boulevard and asked;
     "How come we never hear of these people who shoot from the roof
     tops, the windows and the street corners getting evicted?"
NYC HA Chairperson Sally Hernandez-Pinero never responded.
Indifference?

                                 ###
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 5 Jan 1993 15:15:25 MST
From: <IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>Jo Namio
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: EIR Talks to Lyndon LaRouche: 12/28/92
 <1993Jan2.031811.8750@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>

Good old Lyndon L. Many of us active in the Freeze Campaign (you remember,
back in '84) (you must remember, BUSH hasn't forgotten, he's still
whining) are still chuckling over LaRouche's insistence that we
were all KGB dupes and were getting paychecks from Moscow. As for me,
I'm still waiting for that check!


j.
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: New Book Exposes ADL as Front for Dope Lobby
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:37:40 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism

As quoted from <1993Jan7.151714.29226@starbase.trincoll.edu> by nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller):

> In article <C0GAz2.Ivu@NCoast.ORG> cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton) writes:
> 
> >I just don't know how you can say this!   Isn't this just another blow to
> >the prestige of the royal family?  All of these scandals and now they lose
> >their monopoly over the drug trade.
> >
> >They have to do something to reassert their position.  Perhaps invading Idaho
> >with Hungarian mercenaries.
> >
> >Got to go.  I've got a "Black (multinational) Helicopter"(tm) to catch....
> 
> Right as rain.  Maybe it's time for them to reveal the truth that
> other meshugener, Dr. Peter Beter, who died just as he was about to
> tell the world about Lyndon Larouche's having acquired a corner in
> white peppercorns and old Russian icons.
> 
And paintings of Elvis on black velvet, don't forget the Elvis paintings....

> 


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"Well whose opinions did you THINK these were...?" 
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From: karna@pobox.upenn.edu (Animesh Karna)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Some Question About Libertarianism
Date: 11 Jan 93 02:23:02 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I have some questions about Libertarianism: I'm hoping someone can clarify
some things for me.

I don't know too many Libertarians, and I've been curious if the beliefs of
the few that I've met represent anything similar to the beliefs of the
Libertarian party, etc . . .

A couple of years ago, a mixed (wife was white, husband was black) couple
moved into a white neighborhood in southwest philly.  Their neighbors,
because of race, harrassed the couple, vandalized their house, and finally
picketed them until they left.  A person I spoke to around that
time, who called himself a Libertarian, supported the neighborhood in this
matter: they can decide who they would allow to buy property in their 
neighborhood, and if the couple didn't like it they can go elsewhere.

This same person and his friends were also very much anti-abortion and
anti-gay rights (the specific "gay rights" issue is whether an 
employer can fire an employee for no other reason than the person
is gay).

The "Libertarianism" these people spoke of seemed to be that the federal
government should be substantially limited, but local "governments" (i.e.,
neighborhoods) should be unrestrained.

I don't want to start any big deal on which side of the above issues is
"right" or "wrong".  I'm just curious as to what the "official"
Libertarian POV on these situations might be (and if there is no
"official", what some Libertarians feel).
From: snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Sleaze
Keywords: Legaleaze
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 19:24:18 PST
Reply-To: snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us



  In message-ID: aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber) writes:


>Help the ignorant...what the heck is this about?

   This  is  about  a  rather  ordinary  traffic  citation  for  "driving an
   unregistered  vehicle  ,without  a  license  plate  ,without  a  driver's
   license"  - an exercize most likely to be appreciated by the Libertarians
   among us.


>   I can't read
>   legaleaze (rhymes with sleaze).

  Please excuse the stilted language of the courtroom bureaucracy , although
  I agree with the suggestion of the  sleaziness  of  Lawyerdom,   one  must
  attempt  to  communicate  with  lawyers at times, especially when they are
  threatening to put you in jail. It is hoped that these postings will be of
  some benefit to those in similar circumstances. Please hit the  N  key  if
  you are not interested.

   Ostrowski



Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Re: New Book Exposes ADL as Front for Dope Lobby
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:03:16 GMT

Along with all other bien-pensant activists I'm delighted
that the truth about the ADL is about to be revealed.

I'm also (as a closet royalist) pleased to see that H.M.
Elizabeth II is no longer the sole controller of the drug
trade.

Norman Miller
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Re: Libertarians
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:47:50 GMT

In article <ARCHER.726.726859196@utkvm1.utk.edu> ARCHER@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Arche
r) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.144230.24440@starbase.trincoll.edu> nmiller@starbase.trin
coll.edu (norman miller) writes:
>>Maybe you'd do better examining the _ideological_ roots of your faith.
>                                                                 ^^^^^
>     This term is inaccurate, as libertarianism is not a faith, but a
>political and economic movement.

Gadzooks!  Coulda fooled me.

nm

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.culture.usenet,alt.politics.usa.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Has Bush Gone Mad?
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:53:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


My guess is that G. Bush wants to get the US into such as mess
that Clinton will never be able to recover. Somalia/Iraq will
be Clinton's Vietnam and in four years the Republicans will say
"I told you that the Dem's can't doit - elect us!" or
"We will stop the war (ala Nixon)"
My .02
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,alt.sex
From: thomson%jensen.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Rich Thomson)
Subject: Re: "New Right" Libertarians?
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:47:12 MST
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Utah, SLC, UT
Distribution: usa

In article <1993Jan11.190621.7340@kadsma.kodak.com>
	pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek) writes:
>Fact 1: people need food to survive.
>
>Fact 2: in this country, and in most modern political societies, of various
>        persuasions, FOOD IS PROPERTY.
>
>Conclusion: If I own some food, I can legally deny you access to that food,
>even if you will starve as a result, and even if there's enough for both
>of us.
>
>If people could live without food, this argument disappears. As long as
>people need food to survive, the argument remains.

So if I quit my job and come over to your house and have a "hunger
strike" will you feed me?  Will you continue to feed me, even though I
refuse to get a job and feed myself?

People do need food to survive, but that doesn't mean that I have a
right to force you to feed me.  The flip side of this is that some
people, either because of tough times, or disability, can't feed
themselves and their family.  All the libertarians I know feel
compassion for those people and help them through private charity
organizations and volunteer effort.

More specifically, the Campus Libertarians at the University of Utah
went to the Utah Food Bank and sorted donated food that was
distributed to those less fortunate than ourselves.  We worked quite
hard all afternoon and our volunteer efforts were much appreciated by
the Food Bank staff.

						-- Rich
-- 
		    Don't blame me; I voted Libertarian
Internet: thomson@asylum.cs.utah.edu		Rich Thomson
IRC: _Rich_					PEXt Programmer