From: voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re: Re: AMWAY : why isn't it pyramid selling?
Date: 9 Jan 93 13:43:14 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <44890012@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM>, lou@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (Lou Kvitek) writes:
> In alt.business.multi-level, Eli.Mantel@launchpad.unc.edu (Eli Mantel) writes:
> 
>> My only connection with Amway is that I went to a local opportunity
>> meeting.  My major point to anyone considering Amway or any similar
>> opportunities is:  DON'T look at the "circles"... look at the product,
>> and the product pricing.  Make no committment to participate until
>> they show you the product prices, and you are convinced that it both
>> represents a value to the consumer (or even to you personally at the
>> wholesale prices).  Don't try to guess what your PV/BV may be worth,
>> because you may not necessarily be eligible for them.  
> 
> I don't understand why Eli says "DON'T look at the "circles"".  To me,
> this is indeed the most interesting part of the business.  You will find
> the products to be of exceptional quality and a good value.  Amway could
> not be in business for 33 years with volume of $4Billion and have a
> money back guarantee unless their products were excellent.  The "circles"
> is where the real income potential is.  The "circles" describe what
> multi-level marketing is all about.  
> 
> I guess you need to focus on what your goals are.  If you want to make
> just what the "average" distributor makes then ignore the circles -
> 80% of all Amway distributors _never_ share the business opportunity (try
> to sponsor other people).  They merely buy for themselves and maybe sell
> a little to some customers (family).  If all you want to do is make 
> enough to go out for a nice dinner once a month then retail sales of
> the products will work for you - so, focussing on the products may be
> justified.
> 
> If on the other hand you are interested in long term financial gain,
> then building a network of distributors is the way to go - so concentrate
> on the "circles".  Amway rewards its distributors for moving volume -
> having a large network of distributors is the best way to create that
> volume.  This volume creation is aided by the diverse product line that
> Amway offers - 14,000 products and services from over 300 manufacturers
> (Amway carries more than just Amway products).
> 
>> wholesale prices).  Don't try to guess what your PV/BV may be worth,
>> because you may not necessarily be eligible for them.  
> 
> A distributor is _always_ eligible for his PV/BV.  The PV/BV worth is
> well published in Amway's SA4400 form, approved by the FTC.
> 
>> 				Dream Thief
>> 				Eli Mantel (eli.mantel@launchpad.unc.edu)
> 
> Eli, you are a "Dream Thief"?  Why would you want to steal people's dreams?
> How horrible.  The Amway business is all about helping people achieve
> their dreams.
Look falks!
I do not care what anybody says about MLM or the AMWAY, but here is the
question:
Could you be ( not company but Y O U) succesfull in ANY MLM business without Y
O U  PERSONALLY being product oriented?
 the next question I'd ask is
How in the world could ANYBODY be product oriented if you have an access to
14,000 products.
Now for over 6 years of networking with MLM companies I have not met a SINGLE
one AMWAY person who whas PRODUCT oriented (and I DO know some VERY succesfull
Amway distributors. even though they have invested a great deal of time and
money into Amway)
I think that any MLM should not have more than a 100 (+ or - 50) products.
other words I just do not know.
This is not an offence against Amway or any other MLM. This is just a
questions...
Greg V.
full time MLM er. Yes making money and DO have FUN!
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