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From: hanche@ams.sunysb.edu (Harald Hanche-Olsen)
Subject: Re: question about parsing numbers
Organization: University at Stony Brook, NY
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:59:06 GMT

>>>>> In article <726603701.528921.BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG>, BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG (bbeeton) writes:

bbeeton> julio dix (jd01@swtexas.bitnet, to comp.text.tex, jan 8) wants
bbeeton> to strip off the first digit from a series of digits in a box,
bbeeton> replacing the remaining digits into the same box.

bbeeton> i won't tackle the boxing part of the question, but can explain
bbeeton> why the whole string of numbers is being gobbled at once.

bbeeton> take a simpler example:
bbeeton> \newcount\num
bbeeton> \def\newnum#1#2.{\num=#1 \def\rest{#2}}
bbeeton> \newnum12345.
bbeeton> this will end up with \num=12345 and \rest empty (with a delimited
bbeeton> string, the part between delimiters need not contain anything).

Nope:

*\showthe\num
> 1.
<*> \showthe\num
? 
*\show\rest
> \rest=macro:
->2345.
<*> \show\rest

The relevant mechanism deciding this is not number parsing, but macro
parameter parsing.  I haven't seen the original post so can only guess
at the question asked, but perhaps the example

\newcount\num \def\digits{12345} \def\newnum#1#2.{\num=#1 \def\rest{#2}}
\newnum\digits67890.      %% Result: \num=12345 and \rest -> 67890
\expandafter\digits67890. %% Result: \num=1 and \rest -> 234567890

hits closer to the mark?

- Harald
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Most recent TeX release?
From: hafner@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Dr. Paul R Hafner)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:05:39 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.


What is the most recent TeX release and where can I get it?
I have 3.14 but also know that the Aston archive has tex.web 
version 3.141, but, it appears, not the changefiles required for
successful compilation on our Suns.

Thanks for your help.

Paul


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From: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Forcing expansions in Tex
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:54:07
Organization: /pearl/homes/eijkhout/.organization
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In-reply-to: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu's message of 5 Jan 93 15:52:58

In article <EIJKHOUT.93Jan5155258@cupid.cs.utk.edu> eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (me, in other words) writes:

   The best I can come up with right now is the following:
	   \edef\tmp{\noexpand\typeout{\thechapter}}
	   \uppercase\expandafter{\tmp}
   which you hide of course in a macro because it's ugly.

I'm so embarrassed. I forgot to say that you have to define
	\def\thechapter{\roman{chapter}}
that is, lowercase, because this is fully expandable.

Evidence (from interactive run):

*\setcounter{chapter}3
*\def\thechapter{\roman{chapter}}
*\edef\tmp{\noexpand\typeout{\thechapter}}
*\uppercase\expandafter{\tmp}
III

See?

--
Victor
``I have seen this funny quote, if only I could find it back.''
From: mwitten@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: UNIX VERSIONS OF TEX
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 16:21:23 CST
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

We are in the process up upgrading TeX, AMS TeX, LaTeX etc in `
our UNIX shop. The versions we have a quite old. Sigh ....
I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me what the
current versions of things are (in the UNIX environment) and
where to get them. I know that AMS can be gotten by anonymous ftp
from the AMS. Where are the new versions of TeX, SliTex, Latex, etc?

Please direct comments to me and not the list. Thanks,

matthew

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From: jbarth@ep.ieee.org (Jeremy Barth)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: Oxford - Dictionaries
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:21:10 GMT
Reply-To: jbarth@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY

> I think a long time ago (circa 1990) I remembered
> reading about a project out of university of waterloo
> in which they were doing a comphresive effort to put
> the complete oxford english dictionary into an
> electronic format.  Has this been done?

I don't know about the U of W-loo, but Oxford itself
put the dictionary on CD-ROM years ago.   In 1992 they 
came out with a far better version.  

I heard a radio interview with the leader
of the OED project, who described the travails of
some hapless grad student.  It seems this poor soul
had just spent 14 months researching Shakespeare's
influence on the English language and had accumulated 
several thousand citations.  He then when down to 
Oxford to try out this new-fangled electronic gizmo. 
In under a minute, the computer/CD-ROM combo unearthed
approximately 33,000 citations.

Reportedly, the grad student fainted dead away.

I'm not sure what the price is, but it's probably
going to be fairly high.

Jeremy Barth    IEEE, Inc.    jbarth@ieee.org
From: ujfrye@mcs.drexel.edu (Jason Frye)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Need help finding text pict
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:52:50 GMT
Organization: Drexel University


 Hello Netters I know that This isn't the place to be putting this, But 
I know that MOst of us mhave had a hard time finding something one time or
another... So here it goes...

	What I need....

A TEXT only picture.. of Einstein... 

Sounds simple?  I know they use to exist so anyone knowing where there is one
or where I can Find one or just mail em to me.. I really could use the help

	Thanks in advance..      

Email Responses only please ...  
SEND TO:

ujfrye@mcs.drexel.edu

P.S. 

Send any other of your favorite TEXT pics to me too I may have a use...

Thanks
Xref: sparky comp.text:1538 alt.cd-rom:5502
From: ouij@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Luigi Perrotta)
Newsgroups: comp.text,alt.cd-rom
Subject: Oxford - Dictionaries
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:23:58 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Church Of Surfing Anarchist

I think a long time ago (circa 1990) I remembered
reading about a project out of university of waterloo
in which they were doing a comphresive effort to put
the complete oxford english dictionary into an
electronic format.  Has this been done?

also is any body aware of electronic dictionaries
that contain the hyphenation info as well. (take into
account that I have yet to play any cd-rom offerings
of dictionaries).

ouij
Newsgroups: comp.text,alt.text.dwb,comp.sys.att
From: kak@hico2.westmark.com (Kris A. Kugel)
Subject: Re: info needed on gc2pic
Followup-To: comp.text,alt.text.dwb,comp.sys.att
Reply-To: kak2@hico2.westmark.com
Organization: High Country Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:01:47 GMT

I wrote:
: There's a set of troff macros that turn a "typewriter drawing" into
: lines called "gc".
: As I recall, it handles curves through the use of adjacent '(' or '@'
: characters.  I think they work only for certain Xerox printers.

: 	.GS
: 		@@@
: 	       @   @
: 		@@@
: 	.GE

: There's a filter version, called "gc2pic",
: which generates "pic" output.  The version I used
: did not handle any form of curves.

: Given my lack of a working "xcip/cip" program
: for generating pic output, gc2pic seems like
: the easiest way of creating pic pictures fast.

: Is there a newer version of gc2pic available that corrects
: the curve problem?

Thanks to a friend with an actual manual page,
I find that the curve-handling invocation is

	gc2pic +s

Evidently, splines are an option because some
output devices can't handle them.

I ended up not being able to use gc2pic, because of its
tendency to plot text positions exactly as in its input....
Newsgroups: comp.text,alt.cd-rom
From: nenaas@ulrik.uio.no (Nils-Eivind Naas)
Subject: Re: Oxford - Dictionaries
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:21:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.022358.17046@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> ouij@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Luigi Perrotta) writes:

   I think a long time ago (circa 1990) I remembered
   reading about a project out of university of waterloo
   in which they were doing a comphresive effort to put
   the complete oxford english dictionary into an
   electronic format.  Has this been done?

Yes, the OED 2. edition is out. It is available from Oxford University Press.

It is NOT cheap.

Nils-Eivind Naas, ISAF, Oslo
From: JTCHEW@lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: Effects of Poor Paper Quality
Followup-To: comp.text,misc.writing
Date: 12 Jan 1993 23:05:38 GMT
Organization: Honest Ernie's Used Ions
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.252.153

> do you folks know of any study that correlates user satisfaction
> or product confidence with paper quality? 

Any chance you could talk some sympathetic marketing type
into running a focus-group study to find out?  Or maybe you
could round up some customer comments yourself.  Either
way, I suspect that the loudest voice you can speak with in
this matter is that of the customer.

Good luck,

Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: alex@tpocc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Alex Measday)
Subject: Fixed-width fonts and TROFF
Organization: Integral Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:48:40 GMT

How do I embed fixed-width font text in a TROFF document?  I use
"ptroff -man" for manual pages and "ptroff -ms" for documents on
a Sun workstation and I wish to display examples of C code, for
instance, within the text.

The manual pages for VxWorks (a UNIX-like, real-time operating
system) display their code examples in fixed-width fonts.  I
examined the source to the manual pages and they used ".CS"/".CE"
macros (if I remember correctly) to display the code examples;
unfortunately, these macros are defined on the Sun's to simply
display the code as bold text.  I also looked at the same macro
definitions on an HP/UX workstation and, from what I could gather
from the comments, it looked like the fixed-width font takes the
place of the italics font (or something like that - I haven't
looked at it recently).

I see fixed-width fonts used for code examples in published papers
and technical reports all the time.  How do people do it?  Thanks
for any help!

                            Alex Measday
                            Integral Systems, Inc.
                            alex@tpocc.gsfc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.editors
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: Pin Printers
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:23:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.053558.22707@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ktatenen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Krishna Tateneni) writes:
> I'm at a loss here. I think the 9 pins were probably the minimum
> needed to produce decent quality text. But why 24 rather than 18 or 20
> or even 22?

I always assumed it's because 24 bits is 3 bytes.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: billr@ims.com (Bill Rea)
Subject: SPARC Printers and Interleaf
Reply-To: billr@ims.com
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:38:23 GMT

Some time ago I remember a discussion in this group about
using a SPARC printer with Interleaf.  Well, since I didn't have
any SPARC printers at the time I ignored the postings.  So,
of course, I now have to use one of the Sun new Newsprinter's
with Interleaf.  

The problem I'm having is that jobs are spooled to the printer 
via Interleaf, print some random number of pages, and then 
the job mysteriously gets dropped out of the print que. 

Does anyone have any advice or gotcha's that you can pass my
way?  

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: pierce@cray.com (David J. Pierce,,,,universe(ucb))
Subject: Grammar Checker Software/SUN????
Reply-To: pierce@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 4 Jan 93 08:35:41 CST


Hello!

Is anyone out there aware of a GOOD grammar checker program
for Interleaf 5.3 on SUN workstations?

We are presently experimenting with Proof Positive and CoAuthor,
but are not even close to being satisfied with either of these
programs.

As we have quite a few users, we would like to get a program that
allows floating licenses.  

The manuals we produce are quite technical and sometimes quite 
lengthy, so we need a program with some POWER!

We used to be on the Xerox platform, at which time we used RightWriter.
This program was as good as any, but far from ideal.  Does this
program exist for a UNIX-based system (SUN)?

Any input on this subject would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!!!

Dave
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: irakliot@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Leo J. Irakliotis)
Subject: giff <---> tiff etc (summarize)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 23:06:32 GMT
Reply-To: irakliot@lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Engineering Network Services, Colorado State University

Thanks to all that replied my query of converting  gif/tiff files
for Ileaf5. Ileaf can read tiff files, so the problem is to get to
this format if the original file is in someother format. Checking
out public domain sites for DOS software I came accross Graphics
WorkShop (GWS) that handles virtually *any* graphics file format.
Since I have a PC on the net it is fairly easy for me to complete
the conversion under DOS and then load the file on my workstation.

GWS is highly recommended. It is available via anonymoys ftp from
wuarchive.wustl.edu and other DOS archives as GRFWK61T.ZIP.--



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From: tomm@crhc.uiuc.edu (Thomas B Maciukenas)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: How do I get text to flow around graphics?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:42:31 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: basagran.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: help flowing text graphics

Thanks for the great responses to my question about making text
flow around a graphics object.  The key command was "MISC->SHAPE"
in text edit mode.  This allows you to manually adjust the horizontal
positioning of each line of text so that it doesn't overlap the
object.  (Sadly, as I feared, there seems to be no way to have Ileaf
do this automatically.)  The other key step is that the graphics
frame should have OVERLAY or UNDERLAY placement so that it doesn't
displace the text vertically.  The steps are as follows:

    1) Place the graphics in a floating frame.
    2) Select the frame and choose PROPS.
    3) Select OVERLAY or UNDERLAY placement, and position the
         frame on the page.  (At this point it will overlap the
         text.)
    4) In text edit mode, select MISC->SHAPE.  A small bar will
         appear at the beginning and end of each line of text.
         These bars can be horizontally repositioned so that the
         text does not overlap the graphics.  (To move a bar,
         select it and choose SET.  At least that's the way it
         works on the HP Apollos.)

Thanks again!
-- 
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From: tjones@access.digex.com (Tom Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: How do I get text to flow around graphics?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 06:29:06 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com
Keywords: help flowing text graphics

In article <1inmbuINNas@treflan.crhc.uiuc.edu> 
tomm@crhc.uiuc.edu (Thomas B Maciukenas) writes:

>Well, the subject line says it all.  I'm using
>Interleaf on an HP Apollo        workstation
>and  I want  the text  to  (__)  flow around a
>graphical  object    ______(oo)  like this.  I
>have  tried every   /| ##  (..)  placement op-
>tion I could find  * ||---||     and nothing
>seems to work.  I             would greatly
>appreciate any suggestions, comments, hints,
>etc.
>

The misc->shape command while editing text will put one into the shape-
edit mode; select the grey boxes and move them around the object.
There is no way to do this automatically (Pagemaker's algorithm is
pretty bad at it anyway).  There is NO easy way to get text to flow
in a single column around a central object, as you showed, and in:

1 2 3 4 5       *** = object
6 7 *** 8       1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d = text sequence
9 a b c d

By changing the document to 2 columns on the page properties sheet,
you CAN do:

1 2 3  9 a b
4 5 **** c d
6 7 8  e f

I consider this lack of a feature to be good--reading around objects
is extremely annoying when the objects aren't at the right or left
margin of the column, and you have to search for the correct line on
the other side.

-tom jones
 Greenbelt, MD

Cc: 
Bcc: 


Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: wargopl@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Peter L. Wargo)
Subject: Re: gif/tiff images to ileaf docs (HOW?)
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:11:49 GMT

king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist) writes:

>irakliot@lance.colostate.edu publicly declared:
>>How can I import a gif/tiff image into an Ileaf doc?

>I do this by using the PBMPLUS suite of conversion utilities to convert
>the GIF to Sun raster format, then use the Ileaf utilities to convert
>Sun raster to Ileaf.  This is with Ileaf 4.3 running on Suns.  I'd
>recommend a similar method for whatever platform you're on.  PBMPLUS has
>been ported to many machines (Unix machines, MS-DOS, etc.), so use that
>to get the GIF into something Ileaf can convert, like TIFF or (in my
>case) Sun raster.

FOr about 99.99% of my conversions, I use Paint Shop Pro for Windows.  It
converts lotsa neat formats, including TIFF< GIF, and Sun Raster.

Hijaak is also decent.

-Pete

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From: tomm@crhc.uiuc.edu (Thomas B Maciukenas)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: How do I get text to flow around graphics?
Date: 9 Jan 1993 17:16:14 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: treflan.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: help flowing text graphics

Well, the subject line says it all.  I'm using
Interleaf on an HP Apollo        workstation
and  I want  the text  to  (__)  flow around a
graphical  object    ______(oo)  like this.  I
have  tried every   /| ##  (..)  placement op-
tion I could find  * ||---||     and nothing
seems to work.  I             would greatly
appreciate any suggestions, comments, hints,
etc.

Thanks in advance,
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: irakliot@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Leo J. Irakliotis)
Subject: Re: How do I get text to flow around graphics?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:10:56 GMT
Reply-To: irakliot@lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Engineering Network Services, Colorado State University
Keywords: help flowing text graphics

In article <1iofniINN1fg@mirror.digex.com>, tjones@access.digex.com (Tom Jones) writes:
|> 
|> The misc->shape command while editing text will put one into the shape-
|> edit mode; select the grey boxes and move them around the object.
|> There is no way to do this automatically [...]

+-------+ text text text text text text text text text text text text text
| frame | ext text text text text text text text text text text text text 
|       | xt text text text text text text text text text text text text t
|       | t text text text text text text text text text text text text te
+-------+  text text text text text text text text text text text text tex
          text text text text text text text text text text text text text
ext text text text text text text text text text text text text text 
xt text text text text text text text text text text text text
t text text text text text text text text text text text text te
 text text text text text text text text text text text text tex


In situations like this I prefer to to a Prop->Profile for the component
with the frame. It is better some times to define the profile of the 
component at its left or right margin or both. Especiallgy when editing
a newsletter (in my case) it gets very handy to use the Profile property.


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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: sehamb01@vulcan.spd.louisville.edu (Steve Hamburg)
Subject: Page numbering customization using a book
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:06:47 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

I am using the book utility in Interleaf where my catalogs contain the 
component information for the separate chapters in the book.  What I would
like to do is the following:

I would like the first page number of a given chapter to be at the bottom
center portion of the page.  I would then like all subsequent pages of each
chapter to have the page number in the upper right hand corner of the page.

When I try to use ESC-SHIFT3 at the header, Interleaf gives me the following
error message:

You cannot edit imported header/footer frames.  You must edit them in their
catalog.

All help is immensely appreciated.

Thanks in advance-

Steve.

sehamb01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu
From: guimona@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Alexandre Guimond)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: any books for learning interleaf?
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:27:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Universite de Montreal


Well, are there? I can't seem to find any!

thanks.

-- 
Alexandre Guimond
guimona@JSP.UMontreal.CA
From: pl@Apteryx.DoCS.UU.SE (Per Lindgren)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Interleaf 3 document
Date: 11 Jan 1993 09:00:38 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: apteryx.docs.uu.se

Help!

I wonder if someone out there can help me with a small problem:
 A teacher at my department has a Interleaf 3 document that he
 wants to print. The document can't be opened with Interleaf 5,
 and pl2ps on the pl-file generates some font error messages
 ("Error: can't build DL font clas" and similar ones).

 Is it at all possible to convert this old document or extract
 the text from it? 

Thanks in advance...

--Per

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