From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer)
Subject: Re: Unfounded Biblical Faith  (Was:Re: I've forged a cancel of a sendsys)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 05:24:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - San Jose, CA

Johnathen Allen, you forgot to include the following part of my article.

In article <20590@rpp386.lonestar.org> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F Haugh II) writes:
>In article <1992Apr1.234439.15876@wpi.WPI.EDU> entropy@wintermute.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
>
>>Disclaimer: Opinions are based on logic rather than biblical "fact".   ------
>
>Please remove this obnoxious statement from your messages.  You are
>insulting all people who have some form religious faith.
>


In article <9204102955@ukmug.uk.mugnet.org> jonathan@ukmug.uk.mugnet.org (Jonathan Allen) writes:
>In article <srqjlpn.rohwerwd@netcom.com>, rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) wrote:
>>      Please remove your illogical pro-censorship and pro-politically correct
>> statements from all your future posts.  You are insulting all people that
>> give authority to logic over unfounded bibilical faith.
>> 
>>      As you should know by now, the Bible contains many contradictions
>> and errors and as a consequence does not stand up to logic.  A couple
>> of errors are the creation story and the virgin birth.  Christianity
>> is a very false religion.
>
>Boy oh boy, I normally pull my horns in when someone starts off on this
>track, and leave it to die out - after all, if you _want_ to go to hell,
>I can't stop you - but you really do go too far on this one.
>

     Since you horns are out now, does that mean that you are related to
or are Satan?
 
     Who are you to judge whether I will go to Christian concept of Hell?
Does your hypocritical Christian God give you that authority?  I guess that
I just committed the Christian sin of blasphemy.  Big deal, Not!.

>I don't stuff my religious beliefs down the throats of others, and I don't
>see why you should stuff your atheist views down mine.

     My previous article defends that right of Lawrence C. Ford to post
his disclaimer and I just happened to include my supporting views.  
Since I am not an atheist, I can not possibly be stuffing my atheist
views down your throat.  You can do whatever you want with your
religious beliefs, just don't pass laws that tell me how to live my
life.

>  You do me and a
>number of other people a grave injury when you accuse us of deliberately
>insulting all those people who either through ignorance of the facts, or
>from a deliberate choice to ignore them, have decided that being a disciple
>of the Lord Jesus Christ is not for them.
>

     I cause Christians a grave injury when I let them know facts that
they have decided to ignore.  Give me a break.

>I am just as prepared to respect your intelligence and free-will as the
>man standing next to you, be he a disciple or not.  Moreover, I am not
>in the habit of dismissing the beliefs and standards of others as
>'illogical' or 'very false' - especially not in public.  If I may offer
>my suggestion: an apology is _very_ much called for.
>

     I guess that you are shy, which is fine.  I will dismiss others'
standards and beliefs in public if I see them as false and/or illogical.
Me apologize for what I believe is right?  No way.

>If you would like to have a discussion about (what I believe to be) the
>truth and integrity of the Bible, then I am quite happy to have it, but
>it really ought to be by email or in an appropriate newsgroup.
>

     The discussion is occurring in an appropriate newsgroup,
talk.religion.misc.

>In the meantime, I and the net await your apologies ...
>

     You will be waiting until Hell Freezes Over then.

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