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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:51:31 GMT

In article <1igdilINNkk7@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>>>>JUST HEARD: from a friend.
>>>>The bride of the Crown Prince (Hironomiya) is decided to be Masako Kowada.
>
>>masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>>>   By whom?!
>
>jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:
>>I suppose it was a collective decision of the gnomes of the Imperial
>>Household Agency, and announced to HRH by a bevy of chamberlains.
>
>Some Q's:
>o What's HRH?  

Her/His Royal Highness.

>o What is this deal about Japanese media being "scooped" by 
>  Washington Post ("as was in the case of Emperor Akihito")?
>  Were they gagged or just being asleep?

Dunno. The article I read said that ol' "what's 'er name" has been rumored to
be the "leading candidate" for several years. My wife confirmed that she has
seen lots of pictures of her in the Japanese press for quite a while. Perhaps
the Washington Post simply beat the Japanese press to the "official" announce-
ment. She has been involved in various trade discussions, and has quite a few
contacts in Washington. 

>o Would it be unconstitutional for her to continue her work in
>  the foreign ministry?  The I.H. Agency would want her to quit
>  regardless, I suppose.

Unconstitutional? Heaven forbid? Don't you realize that there is a very STRONG
separation between Church and State in the Japanese Constitution? You oughta
be ashamed!

>o Do I care?

Good question. 

Mike
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conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: First Love
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:28:17 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <9301102330@ritz.mordor.com> by ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz):

> Christopher Morton (cmort@NCoast.ORG) wrote:
> OS/2> As quoted from <C0KuLw.I66@unix.amherst.edu> by jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (jesse fuchs):
> OS/2> 
> OS/2> > 	Question: If they made a movie about Riki, who would play him? My
> OS/2> > choices are either the guy who played the bandit in "Rashomon," or 
> OS/2> > Tor Johnson. Any other suggestions?
> OS/2> 
> OS/2> I vote for the guy who played the leader of the cannibals in "The Hills Have
> OS/2> Eyes".  I can imagine the same look of thoughtful introspection on Rikiko's
> OS/2> "face"....
> 
> Nah, I vote for the guy who played Kent Dorfman (Flounder) on Animal
> House.
> 
No way, he looked WAY too intelligent.  I watched "Henry, Portrait of a Serial
Killer" the other night.  I'd say that in terms of IQ and "personality", Rikiko
much more resembles the guy who played Otis, the accomplice rapist, killer.

> "Excuse me sir, I'd like to buy 10,000 crack pipes please..."
> 
In Rikiko's case it'd be, "Excuse me sir, I'd like to buy 10,000 brain cells
please...".  To which the reply would be, "Son, why BOTHER...?"

   :)


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From: jfriedl@shibuya.omron.co.jp (Jeffrey Friedl)
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:05:32 GMT

masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
|>   If that "collective decision" did not include that of Crown Prince
|> and Ms. Owada and they were made to engage [snap!] just like this, I 
|> think that it is a shame.

I had dinner with a couple of (Japanese) women last night, and commented
that I thought it was a shame about the engagement.... Owada is apparently
a very intelegent woman with a zest for acheiving things, and these
qualities are not those that get to be excercised much as princess or
emperoress.

They explained that apparently the prince has been intereseted in her for
something like seven years, and that she had asked him to wait (apparently
until some particular milestone in her life/work had been reached).
So at least from this it appears to be an engagement of love, which is
much better all around.

After a bit the two women I was talking with went into their own discussion
about it (too fast for me to catch much), but I did catch the final
"mottainai, nee" (what a waste!) at the end....

	*jeff*
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Jeffrey Eric Francis Friedl                          jfriedl@omron.co.jp
Omron Electronics, Central R&D Lab, RZC     Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617, Japan
Currently visiting scientist to the Mach Project, Carnegie Mellon University.
From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Romaji-ized! Nihongo Songs
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:52:46 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

Mina-sama:

For anyone who is interested in the Romaji lyrics for some popular
Japanese karaoke, I've just posted an ASCII file in ferkel.ucsb.edu.
in the /pub/jpop/incoming directory.  If you don't have anonymous ftp
access to ferkel, please send me email and I will send you a copy.

I am also interested in more lyrics.  If you have them (preferrably
available on the DK Karaoke LPC JS Title List) then, I'd be more
than delighted to get them.

The current list includes:

Kome Kome Club - ROMAN HIKOU, KIMI GA IRU DAKE DE
Chage & Aska - SAY YES, WALK 
KAN - AI WA KATSU
Hound Dog - BRIDGE
Southern All Stars - ITOSHI NO ERII
J-Walk - NANI MO IENAKUTE...NATSU
Bakufu Slump - OOKI NA TAMANEGI NO SHITA DE
Tanimura Shinji - SUBARU
Yamakawa Yutaka - SHIGURE GAWA
Hosokawa Takashi - KITA SAKABA
Matsutoya Yumi - JONETSU NI TODOKANAI, REFRAIN GA SAKENDERU
Princess Princess - SEKAI DE ICHIBAN ATSUI NATSU, DIAMONDS, M, PA PA
Teresa Teng - WAKARE NO YOKAN, TOKI NO NAGARE NI MI O MAKASE

Jaa, James
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From: zpy@lpf.umd.edu (Zhiping You)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Univ. of Maryland Open Go Championship
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:15:58 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park


		Tournament Annoncement

	University of Maryland Open Go (Wei-Qi) Championship

  This is the third Open Go Championship organized by the University
of Maryland Go Club. The first two tournaments (which were in Jan. of
1990 and 1991) were very successful. We had about 50 players at each
tournament and we expect more to come this year. The tournament is AGA
rated. 

Format:

  Five round tournament,  open to all players.
  Time limit: 1 hour per player and 20 moves in 5 minutes for overtime.

Schedule:

  Sat. Jan. 9th  9:30 - 10:00 Registration
  Sat. Jan. 9th  10:30 First Round
  Sun. Jan. 10th 12:00 Fourth Round

Place: 

  University of Maryland College Park Campus
  Tortugal Room (inside Stamp Student Union)

Tournament Fee: $20.
  
Contact Person: 

  Gang Li   (301)422-2659
  Gang Chen (301)209-0057 gchen@math.umd.edu

Direction: 
  
  Take I-95, get on the Washington Beltway (part of which is still
called I95), exit at U.S. Route 1 (exit No. 25.), take south along
Route 1. After a couple of miles you will see a Jerry's Pizza on you
right. Cross a small bridge after Jerry's Pizza, make a right into the
campus (east entrance). Follow that road, you will see a sign for
public parking. Ask any person for Stamp Union.



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Zhiping You
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:44:46 GMT

yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:

>Some Q's:
>o What's HRH?  

"His Royal Highness". [Perhaps I should have said "HIH"]

>o What is this deal about Japanese media being "scooped" by 
>  Washington Post ("as was in the case of Emperor Akihito")?
>  Were they gagged or just being asleep?

Actually they had taken a vow of silence, at the request of the royal 
family. Such delicacy doesn't apply to the US (or British) press.

>o Would it be unconstitutional for her to continue her work in
>  the foreign ministry?  The I.H. Agency would want her to quit
>  regardless, I suppose.

I do not recall a clause in the kenpou which would prevent this.
The Brits had the Duke of Windsor (formerly King Edward VIII) made
governor somewhere during WWII (to keep him away from his Nazi friends.)

>o Do I care?

I don't. Do you.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yyy@engr.LaTech.edu (Yan Y. Yu)
Subject: Tourist
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:27:30 GMT


 Dear friends:
		I will go to Tokyo this coming June for about 10 days, I want to know if there are any good places I can go during that time.  Any input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

					Yee Y
From: sf1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shinya Fujimoto)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: First Love
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:00:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EfGqGIe00WB2EDRUlf
	<4fGcsg600Uh_E4yR0N@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

What does your virgin love story has to do with netnews.soc.culture.japan?

Oh, I guess you heard about the rumor of Taka & Rie breaking up and got
sentimental.....(although I don't know if you're that kind of a person or 
not....)

So any updates on Taka & Rie, anyone?
From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Comfort girls?
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:25:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Dec29.025921.144@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
> ... ... ... ... ... ... ? ... ? ... ?
>Go figure Chinese-cu culture and society.  I haven't.  It sucks.

That's the whole point.  Shut up and stop talking of matters you 
Dwight Joe cannot figure out.  Come back and talk about it only 
after you Dwight Joe figured it out.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (jesse fuchs)
Subject: Japanese pop music
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 11:58:58 GMT

	I'm interested in hearing some Japanese rock, having had my appetite
whetted by the magnificient Shonen Knife. Where can I order some from, and 
what do all you out there recommend? (Please include Western analogies so
that I can find music that appeals to my own tastes - i.e. say it sounds sort
of like Talking Heads or R.E.M. or Steely Dan or whatever.)
	Also, are there any Japanese music magazines that are also in English,
or would someone be willing to post translated reviews of albums (Japanese or
American - personally, I'd love to hear what their opinions are of our current
albums)?

						-jesse

--

"Where imagination is sucked out of children by a cathode ray nipple
 T.V. is the only wet nurse that would create a cripple
 On television, the drug of a nation
 Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation."
				-Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 1993 02:30:51 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Japanese women, foreign men

Mr.HLibson writes,

.

> 
>A much more likely explanation can be found in the way foreign men
>treat Japanese women.   Even a very modest (by western standards)
>level of kindness and consideration can seem very attractive to
>a woman who has not experienced this before.  From my own limited
>observations I think that these behavioral differences are far more
>important than diet, smell or the type of car one drives.
> 
>Herb Lison

In looking from the outside, can tell you that these relationships are
not very individual(see that the foreign man-western treats the woman as
a "prized" piece of property)she can very rarely have strict
disagreements with her husband without alway compromising to his
standard. American men(caucasiasn) are more likely now to be with a
international Asians woman that with an independant American woman
because of the 'still' traditional doudle standard in which she holds in
reverence that "this is a man's world"(this is a joke, but many people
were tricked into thinking this). But, on the otherhand(ying-yang), more
and more American and European(caucasian) women are dating, marrying and
perferring 
Black American and Asian men. Especially, Black American. So, Mr. Libon
and those who share his delight are really inadequate in the perferrence
of their own culture's women.
From: tnishi@kansas.Berkeley.EDU (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Corporate R&D H.Q.- R&D Support Dept.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:57:57 GMT


In article <1993Jan6.190759.19498@Csli.Stanford.EDU>,
hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan6.121648.6879@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
|> >The bride of the Crown Prince (Hironomiya) is decided to be Masako Kowada.
|> >Miss Kowada currently works as a bureaucrat in the Foreign Ministery
|> >(where her father is the vice-minister), and has long been rumored
|> >as the number-one candidate.

	But then rumors diminished when she went to Oxford for two years to
study and flatly told the press that she considered herself as NOT being a
candidate for the prince since she planned to work in the Foreign Ministry.

|> >Details later.
|> 
|> Confirmed by this morning's news.
|> The name is "Owada", not "Kowada".  Sorry.
|> 
|> Formal announcement will be made after the KOUSHITU-KAIGI(Imperial
|> family conference) on the 19th, and the marriage will be in May
|> at the earliest.
|> 
|> I won't (and can't) refer to the details of her background, except that
|> she spent many of her years abroad (in Moskow, US: as her father was
|> a diplomat) and is a Harvard graduate.

	From my understanding she lived in Moscow until three years,
then New York until 4th or 5th grade?  Then Tokyo and then to Boston
for high school and on to Harvard where she graduated Magna Cum Laude
and then on to Tokyo University where she also graduated at the top.
	She speaks Japanese (obvious), English (also obvious), French
and German.

	I'm interested to see how much the U.S. press takes up this news.
Could someone keep us up to date on U.S. reactions?   if any?  thanks
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: Recommend History Books/Authors?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:56:42 GMT

hank@westford.ccur.com (Hank Cohen) writes:

>In article <jwb.726385740@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au> jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:

>>The colonial status thing was a very real threat to Japan. The 
>>post-Perry treaties forced non-application of Japanese law to visiting
>>Brits, Americans, etc. which was both an insult and a common precursor
>>to "send in the marines to protect our nationals" moves.

>As an interesting footnote to this there is in Kobe a rather prominent
>Shrine dedicated to a samauri who was obliged to commit Seppuku after
>having killed or injured some rude british sailors.  I suppose the
>brits picked a fight with the wrong fella.  In any case the samauri
>chap had to slit his belly to prevent an international incident.  And
>now there's a Shrine in his honor.  This is especially significant
>when you realize that very few shrines in Japan are actually dedicated
>to real people.  It's been ages since I was there and if I knew then
>what I know now about Japanese history I would have checked to see
>when the shrine was founded.  For all I know it might have been
>something like Showa 14. i.e. 1939.

Hank is a little off-beam. The Brits sliced up were well and truly
picked on when a couple of rebellious daimyou headed to Kyouto
to save the tennou from his evil advisors. Sort of latter-day
collateral damage. A scapegoat had to be found, and heads rolled,
literally.

If can get a copy of Mitford's (later Lord Redesdale) book "Tales
of Old Japan", he included his superbly-written eyewitness report
of his seppuku in an appendix. It was the first seppuku seen by
westerners since the early 17th century.


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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Shame
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:35:52 GMT
	<1hu3ebINN39u@agate.berkeley.edu>
	<AZEGAMI.93Jan5101357@uranus.ulsi.flab.fujitsu.co.jp>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


.

       Shame. This is a very important feeling in the Japanese Heart.
For a few minutes I would like to share with the readers of this group
especially those of you who are my countrymen and friends the dangers of
feeling shamefulness in relation to the Japanese nationality. First I
will define the psychological behavior of shame. In a commonsense
approach of course. It is a fact that when one feel shame it is that
individuals perception of the way that others chararcterize her or his
behavior and/or accomplishments. This feeling of shame is a very
important instrument in Japanese society and it is dangerous. When I was
a kid, I was taught and conditioned to treat shame as an enemy to the
Japanese spirit. Shame makes the Japanese act in many self-destructive
ways. I do not have the time to talk about this in great detail. But I
suggest that we follow the example of people in Osaka. When the Osaka
child is growing up, people force a great deal of shame onto the young
person. But, elsewhere in Nippon, to feel shame is to feel dirty. Shame
is no more than one's imagination
of how he/she is observed by others. Let me add that all of the blame is
not entirely on the "others". In many cases, the "others" have a set
conditioning of an individual is suppose to act and /or the supposed or
enlighted accomplishments of the one who feels shame. I think that you
get the picture.

     We, Japanese, must control our historical attitudes when it comes
to feeling shame. For a long time, I treated shame as an imagination. As
the saying goes, "There is no shame in my game". The hard negative
treatment toward oneself because of shamefulness is childish.
Self-punishment is an action brought about
by ignorance. To feel shame is human and is an emotion. But it is a very
different emotion. Shame and it's perception is invented by an
imagination. This
imagination can be transformed into reality. Shame thourgh peer
pressure. But, let's go on from the national stage to the international
stage...
From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: NASA and the Japanese Space Program
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:52:22 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

In article <justin.726816917@mik.uky.edu> justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu 
(justin sullivan) writes:

  >He stressed that Japan wanted to develop its own technology for its space
  >ventures and avoid duplicating existing technologies. At the time, there
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

When another country says they will "avoid duplicating" technology, it
usually means, they steal what already exists so they don't have to
spend the x number of trillions of bucks to develop it. IMHO.

  >.......... American astronauts which are 99% male and probably half
  >(at least) are military personnel. 

From experience and friends in the Navy Nuclear Program, being military
and being a scientist are not mutually exclusive.  IMHO, the US
astronauts who get assigned to actual shuttle missions represent the
most physically fit segment of our scientific community.  Most have
graduate degrees in science or engineering plus they can run sub-5:30
miles.

  >That professor's argument is very ill-founded, though. A full two-thirds
  >of commercial American launches are performed by the European Space
  >Agency. All told, ESA is probably twice as busy as NASA.

We shouldn't rag on NASA's performance in the commercial market.
While other nations benefit from the US R&D and space delivery of
extremely high-tech spy satellites, they cut into the commercial market
by offering lower prices for cheap space delivery of simple
telecommunications satellites.  I'd like the Europeans to pay their fair
share for the costs of technology which the world uses to defend
democracy, instead of trying to undermine US market share in key
commercial technologies, because the US is busy defending everyone
else.  Otherwise, they should shut up and let the US ride herd over
the world's economic markets in proportion to the military expenditures
used to support democracy. Japan and Europe have a lot to learn about
defending freedom by putting the money where their mouths are.

Jaa, James
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             |    Wanna go? Need someone who sings worse than you do? |
             |    Know about a cool karaoke bar? send e-mail          |
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