From: crail@nevada.edu (DONNA CRAIL-RUGOTZKE)
Subject: Re: Passing out Condoms  (Was Re: Better Off Than Four Years Ago NOT)
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:11:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.110014.2871@anasazi.com> karl@anasazi.com (Karl Dussik) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.051213.865@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug26.024744.6464@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA) writes:
>>>
>>>  Why is the school, esp. Public schools the one doing the sex ed, and not
>>>the family where the primary education should be.   
>
>[ stuff deleteed ]
>
>>Why don't I ever hear this argument used against drivers ed? After all
>>if we didn't teach our kids to drive they wouldn't have accident.... RIGHT..
>>
>
>Children are physically capable of driving a car at age 10 or less.
>What do you think would happen if we were to start teaching driver's ed at
>age 10 and left the keys to the family car easily accessible?
>
>>>   Leave the role of the primary sex educator to the family, and not
>>>government.
>>
>>That simply hasn't worked, I think there are something like 1 million
>>teen pregnancies a year. "Family values" hasn't stopped kids from having
>>sex, but education can atleast give them the knowledge to do it safely.
>>
>
>Sure - and the massive introduction of valueless technical sex education
>has been a great success.  In fact, the more sex education we've had in the
>schools, the worse the problems of teenage sex have gotten.


Do you have any data that supports this statement?

The sex education I had (mid-1980's) was poor.  There was no mention of
birth control, pregnancy, or condoms.  All that was mentioned was 
sexually transmitted diseases and toilet seats.  This was at a public
school.  I am afraid that more of us for confused than helped by this
education.
>
>"Family values" hasn't worked for two main reasons.  1) The public - i.e.,
>government run - schools have been systematically waging war against family
>values.  This is one of the two major reasons for parents pulling their
>children out of public schools and putting them into private and religious
>schools.  Parents even send their kids to schools of a different religion
>from their own - e.g.: black Southern Baptists sending their kids to Catholic
>schools.  And the kids thrive there, not only because the schools are better
>academically, but because those schools are much better morally than the
>public schools.

I have worked both as a substitute teacher and as a student teacher and I 
can tell you that I have witnessed no "war" against family values.  Also, I
never had a parent tell me that I was corrupting his/her children.  The few
parents who made the effort to meet me had no complaints.  Of course these
parents were the ones with the "A" and "B" students.  These students also 
rarely misbehaved.   The reason these kids were successful was their 
parents. 

Children learn their values from their parents.  If their parents value 
education, than the kids will do their best to learn.  If the parents
think that the school is only a tax-supported baby-sitting service,
than their children are not going to even try to do well.  

Another problem is that many parents wage their own war against values.
They say one thing, do another, and are surprised when they learn that
their children can see as well as hear.       
>
>And 2) the "media elite", mainly through television and the movies, have -
>not coincidentally - been waging the exact same war against "family values".
>And they have been winning big time to the severe detriment of society as a
>whole.

"Show business" is a business.  They only make movies and television shows,
that they think we want to see.   If a movie or a television show is popular,
we will see more shows about that same topic or character.  If the movie or
television industry is anti-family values, then it is a result of public
demand. 
>
>How can a family sustain its values when they are continually undermined
>everywhere they turn?

The parents can control their children's television watching habits.  They
can also teach their children to think for themselves.  They can take an
interest in what their children are doing.  
>-- 
>The Democrat U.S. Congress - Evil Empire II (TM)


Donna
crail@nevada.edu



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