HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ierardi@flash.usc.edu (DJ Ierardi)
Newsgroups: la.seminars
Subject: USC Computer Science Colloquium (11/25/92)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:28:30 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: la
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	USC Computer Science Colloquium


Title:  	Geometric Assembly Planning
Speaker:  	Randy Wilson, 
		Stanford University


Abstract:

        A good assembly plan is crucial for reliable, inexpensive assembly
of products.  Assembly sequencing, a subproblem of assembly planning,
considers only the constraints on assembly plans arising from the geometry
and physics of the product itself.  In this talk I consider the problem of
efficiently generating assembly sequences strictly from the geometry of a
goal assembly.
	Previous approaches to assembly sequencing have either been
incomplete or followed a generate-and-test approach that is impractical for
assemblies with many parts.  I introduce the non-directional blocking graph,
a succinct characterization of the blocking relationships between parts in
an assembly.  I describe polynomial-time algorithms to identify feasible
assembly operations by constructing and analyzing the NDBG for a product.
Several instances of the NDBG are given, each corresponding to a different
class of motions used to mate the parts.
	The algorithms have been implemented in GRASP, an experimental
testbed for assembly sequencing, and tested on industrial assemblies having
as many as 42 parts.  Experimental results are shown for the basic planner
and compared against the results when the more efficient methods are used.


Time:      Wednesday, November 25  10:30 AM
Location:  Seaver Science Auditorium
	
(Refreshments will be served.)









Newsgroups: grads,seminars,la.seminars
From: gpham@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Gisele Pham)
Subject: GENERALIZED FLP IMPOSSIBILITY RESULT FOR t-RESILIENT ...
Keywords: CS201 Seminar
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: la
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:21:48 GMT

DATE Tuesday December 1, 1992
TIME 4:30-6:00 P.M.
PLACE 3400 Boelter Hall
Cookies & Coffee Will Be Served
Starting at 4:00 PM

GENERALIZED FLP IMPOSSIBILITY RESULT FOR 
t-RESILIENT ASYNCHRONOUS COMPUTATIONS.
Eli Gafni
Computer Science Department
UCLA

ABSTRACT 
Demarcation of the border between solvable and unsolvable distributed
tasks under various models is the holy grail of the theory of 
distributed computing. One of the most celebrated of these results 
is (FLP) which established the impossibility of asynchronous 
consensus that can tolerate a single undetected fail-stop processor. 
Indeed, it has led to  the precise characterization of tasks solvable 
and unsolvable under single fault. In this talk we show how to
generalize FLP to multiple faults, and in the process resolves a 
number of open problems.

We diverge from the classic FLP in studying the ``leader election''
problem, and arguing impossibility within the wait-free context only.
Then we show that the wait-free version t-equivalent to the 
non-wait-free one.  Concentrating on the wait-free version for 
impossibility allows us to deal with bounded executions and views 
of processors there in.  We prove the impossibility using a variant 
of the k-dimensional Sperner Lemma.  When k=1 we obtain a completely 
different simple proof of the FLP result.

We show that ``multiple leader election'' is fundamental by reducing
to it the previously suggested problems of k-set consensus, 
k-set test-and- set, and renaming, thus resolving when these problems
are solvable and when  they are not.  A by-product of our proof 
technique is a wait-free read/write simulation of t-resilient
computation by t+1-processors, which shows that resilient computations 
can be investigated by concentrating on the corresponding waitfree
computation.

(Joint work with Elizabeth Borowsky)
Newsgroups: la.seminars,comp.org.acm
From: class9@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Nine)
Subject: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:00:52 GMT
Distribution: la

# DO NOT DELETE THE FOLLOWING LINE!!
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unalias rm mv dir cp del ty type
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echo    " "
echo    " ---------------------- "
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setenv SIGNATURE  $<
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From: class2@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Two)
Subject: Test
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:55:03 GMT
Distribution: la

Yes, this is a test.

Jeffrey
From: class4@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Four)
Subject: Re: none
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:05:28 GMT

In article <mmfuck.6eRwTB1w165w@cacti.mcws.fidonet.org> john@cacti.mcws.fidonet.org (John Coffman) writes:
>bheess@mcws.fidonet.org (Brian L. Heess) writes:
>
>>
>> Testing for afrex!
>> -brian
>>
>> --
>> Home:  bheess@mcws.fidonet.org  Bang:  ..!{elroy,oxy}!mcws!bheess
>> Work:  bheess@Xircom.com        BOTH:  bheess@oxy.cheshire.edu
>> Fido:  Brian Heess 1:102/851  BBS 818-352-2993 v32b/v42b/HST
>> PhHm:  818-353-0727  PhWk: /dev/null || 818-878-7161
>> :      -=* I believe in something strange - Psychotic Waltz *=-
>
>But where's my new news feed?
>John Coffman * Coffman Consulting * (818) 353-7972  

great!
From: class3@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Three)
Subject: test
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:55:16 GMT
Distribution: la

korewa shiken desu.
this is a test (in japanese)

albert
From: class8@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Eight)
Subject: Re: test
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:05:11 GMT
Distribution: la

In article <2B0D266E.7370@news.service.uci.edu> class6@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Six) writes:
>Very important test.
>
>manjeet
>
What about? Katja
From: class3@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Three)
Subject: Re: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:04:48 GMT
Distribution: la

In article <2B0D2760.7511@news.service.uci.edu> class9@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Nine) writes:
>This is my test message.   ... Jim

a fascinating message
albert
From: class4@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Four)
Subject: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:58:55 GMT
Distribution: la

test for class
From: class9@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Nine)
Subject: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:58:56 GMT
Distribution: la

This is my test message.   ... Jim
From: class1@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class One)
Subject: Re: test
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:05:11 GMT
Distribution: la

In article <2B0D266E.7370@news.service.uci.edu> class6@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Six) writes:
>Very important test.
>
>manjeet
>

I got your message.

Joseph
From: class1@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class One)
Subject: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:00:46 GMT
Distribution: la

# DO NOT DELETE THE FOLLOWING LINE!!
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#
#  add other .login commands after here
#
set noglob; eval `tset -Qs -m :?vt100`; unset noglob
setenv EDITOR emacs
setenv SIGNATURE "Class Account"

unalias rm mv dir cp del ty type
set prompt="% "
echo    " "
echo    " ---------------------- "
echo    " Please enter your name: First Last "
echo    " ---------------------- "
echo -n "                   Name: "
setenv SIGNATURE  $<
echo    " "
echo    " Thank you."
echo    " "


# DO NOT DELETE THE FOLLOWING LINE!!
source /usr/skel/syswide.cshrc
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#  add other .cshrc commands after here
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set path=($path /usr/games )
set history=32
unalias rm mv dir cp 
alias exit logout
From: class3@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Three)
Subject: Re: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:24:02 GMT
Distribution: la

In article <2B0D293D.7952@news.service.uci.edu> class5@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Five) writes:
>In article <2B0D28C0.7728@news.service.uci.edu> class3@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Three) writes:
>>In article <2B0D2760.7511@news.service.uci.edu> class9@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Nine) writes:
>>>This is my test message.   ... Jim
>>
>>a fascinating message
>>albert
>>
>from Class5 reply
>
>
great reply.
albert
From: fong@cco.caltech.edu (Pamela Fong)
Newsgroups: la.test
Subject: Testing
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:51:23 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu
Summary: Test
Keywords: testing

Test at midnight.
From: class8@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Eight)
Subject: Test
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:54:48 GMT
Distribution: la

Hello this is a test

Katja
From: class6@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Six)
Subject: Re: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:05:16 GMT
Distribution: la

In article <2B0D27CE.7641@news.service.uci.edu> class1@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class One) writes:
># DO NOT DELETE THE FOLLOWING LINE!!
>source /usr/skel/syswide.cshrc
>#
>#  add other .login commands after here
>#
>set noglob; eval `tset -Qs -m :?vt100`; unset noglob
>setenv EDITOR emacs
>setenv SIGNATURE "Class Account"
>
>unalias rm mv dir cp del ty type
>set prompt="% "
>echo    " "
>echo    " ---------------------- "
>echo    " Please enter your name: First Last "
>echo    " ---------------------- "
>echo -n "                   Name: "
>setenv SIGNATURE  $<
>echo    " "
>echo    " Thank you."
>echo    " "
>
>
># DO NOT DELETE THE FOLLOWING LINE!!
>source /usr/skel/syswide.cshrc
>#
>#  add other .cshrc commands after here
>#
>set path=($path /usr/games )
>set history=32
>unalias rm mv dir cp 
>alias exit logout

# DO NOT DELETE THE FOLLOWING LINE!!
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#  add other .login commands after here
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set noglob; eval `tset -Qs -m :?vt100`; unset noglob
setenv EDITOR emacs
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unalias rm mv dir cp del ty type
set prompt="% "
echo    " "
echo    " ---------------------- "
echo    " Please enter your name: First Last "
echo    " ---------------------- "
echo -n "                   Name: "
setenv SIGNATURE  $<
echo    " "
echo    " Thank you."
echo    " "
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Newsgroups: la.test
Subject: test
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:45:06 GMT
Distribution: la
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA


-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
Newsgroups: la.test
From: stevo@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Steve Groom)
Subject: test
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: la
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:41:47 GMT


testing
-- 
Steve Groom, stevo@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
From: class7@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Seven)
Subject: test
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:54:47 GMT
Distribution: la

This is a test of Pnews by Tom.
From: hardman@throb.mcws.fidonet.org (Bill Hardman)
Newsgroups: la.test
Subject: test
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 21:39:10 PST
Reply-To: hardman@throb.mcws.fidonet.org (Bill Hardman)
Distribution: world
Organization: Bark At The Moon Productions

can I batch yet?


------------------------------- :) -----------------------------------
   hardman = hardman@throb.uucp [modem (818) 352-6297]
                (Bark At The Moon Productions)
                        *A Secret Cult*
If you don't have anything nice to say....Say something Rude!!!!
From: class5@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Five)
Subject: Re: test
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:31:08 GMT

In article <2B0D2E8D.8535@news.service.uci.edu> class5@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Five) writes:
>This is mess. from Channa to la.test
>
>
this is a reply to my own test. thank you
From: hardman@throb.mcws.fidonet.org (Bill Hardman)
Newsgroups: la.test
Subject: test
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:59:38 GMT
Reply-To: hardman@throb.mcws.fidonet.org (Bill Hardman)
Organization: Bark At The Moon Productions

Where'd my memory go?

------------------------------- :) -----------------------------------
   hardman = hardman@throb.uucp [modem (818) 352-6297]
                (Bark At The Moon Productions)
                        *A Secret Cult*
If you don't have anything nice to say....Say something Rude!!!!
From: class1@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class One)
Subject: Test
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:54:48 GMT
Distribution: la

Yes, this is a test.

Joseph
From: hardman@throb.mcws.fidonet.org (Bill Hardman)
Newsgroups: la.test
Subject: test
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:24:41 PST
Reply-To: hardman@throb.mcws.fidonet.org (Bill Hardman)
Distribution: world
Organization: Bark At The Moon Productions

hmmmmmmmmmmm,
let's see

------------------------------- :) -----------------------------------
   hardman = hardman@throb.uucp [modem (818) 352-6297]
                (Bark At The Moon Productions)
                        *A Secret Cult*
If you don't have anything nice to say....Say something Rude!!!!
From: class2@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Two)
Subject: Re: Testing
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: testing
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:05:14 GMT
Distribution: la

In article <1efkibINNbu8@gap.caltech.edu> fong@cco.caltech.edu (Pamela Fong) writes:
>Test at midnight.
>
From: hardman@throb.mcws.fidonet.org (Bill Hardman)
Newsgroups: la.test
Subject: test
Summary: No Reply
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:41:43 PST
Reply-To: No Reply
Distribution: world
Organization: Bark At The Moon Productions

well, here we go again....


------------------------------- :) -----------------------------------
   hardman = hardman@throb.uucp [modem (818) 352-6297]

            h      mM    gs
From: class5@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Five)
Subject: test
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:29:33 GMT

This is mess. from Channa to la.test
From: class9@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Nine)
Subject: Re: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:07:49 GMT
Distribution: la

In article <2B0D28C0.7728@news.service.uci.edu> class3@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Three) writes:
>In article <2B0D2760.7511@news.service.uci.edu> class9@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Nine) writes:
>>This is my test message.   ... Jim
>
>a fascinating message
>albert
>
Well I thought so.  Jim
From: class5@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Five)
Subject: Re: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:06:53 GMT
Distribution: la

In article <2B0D28C0.7728@news.service.uci.edu> class3@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Three) writes:
>In article <2B0D2760.7511@news.service.uci.edu> class9@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Nine) writes:
>>This is my test message.   ... Jim
>
>a fascinating message
>albert
>
from Class5 reply
From: class5@orion.oac.uci.edu (Class Five)
Subject: (none)
Newsgroups: la.test
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:58:53 GMT
Distribution: la

this is a test. from Channa
From: bheess@throb.mcws.fidonet.org (Brian Heess)
Newsgroups: la.test
Subject: argh
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 21:46:15 PST
Reply-To: /dev/nul
Distribution: world
Organization: Bark At The Moon Productions

DOES IT WORK? (comp16)

--
        bheess@throb.mcws.fidonet.org
throb is a *secret cult* located somewhere in Tujunga, Ca.
(818) 352-MCWS
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Newsgroups: la.test
Subject: test
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:51:12 GMT
Distribution: la
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA

testing for sher again

-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
From: john@cacti.mcws.fidonet.org (John Coffman)
Newsgroups: la.test
Subject: Re: none
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 22:48:16 PST
Organization: Coffman Consulting, Tujunga CA

bheess@mcws.fidonet.org (Brian L. Heess) writes:

>
> Testing for afrex!
> -brian
>
> --
> Home:  bheess@mcws.fidonet.org  Bang:  ..!{elroy,oxy}!mcws!bheess
> Work:  bheess@Xircom.com        BOTH:  bheess@oxy.cheshire.edu
> Fido:  Brian Heess 1:102/851  BBS 818-352-2993 v32b/v42b/HST
> PhHm:  818-353-0727  PhWk: /dev/null || 818-878-7161
> :      -=* I believe in something strange - Psychotic Waltz *=-

But where's my new news feed?
John Coffman * Coffman Consulting * (818) 353-7972  
Newsgroups: la.eats
From: fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: Bagels wanted in LA/South Bay
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: la
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:53:56 GMT

>Help!  My housemate and I are from the east coast (no comments, please! :) )
>and we are *dying* for a decent bagel!  Does anyone know of some
>great bagel shops either in LA or in the South Bay?

Hmm -- lo those many moons ago when I did some work at
USC, there was a place not too horribly far away that my
friends and I used to go to where you pushed in a shopping
cart and stocked up on bagels from enormous bins.  The
Bagel Factory?  The mists of time, I'm afraid, obscure the
name in this case ...

Up this way in Pasadena, I usually get mine from Goldstein's.
They're not too terribly bad.

Frank
frank@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: la.eats
From: zukor@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Karen Zukor)
Subject: The la.eats traffic
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:11:59 GMT

There's been some traffic here lately which I can't
help but respond to:

First, on the dining database posted by Saumya Meattle:

Who would believe any list that gave the Sawmill (OK steakish
sort of place) and Cafe Jacoulet (the best Pasadena restaurant
of all time) the same rating?  Jacoulet shouldn't be on the
list in any case; it's been closed for at least 1 1/2 years.
My call:  wrong and out-of-date

Secondly, on the topic of breakfast:

I also endorse the Omlette Parlor on Main in Santa Monica.
It's an institution.

The tip (Thanks Howard Arthur Faye!!!) that Campanile serves
breakfast is a revelation.

On the topic of Pasadena breakfasts:

Pieter Hazawindus starts out fine when he lists Birdie's,
but things deteriorate from there.  I have never liked anything
at the Konditori, and if Pie and Burger represents Toledo
cuisine, I might be happy to visit, especially for breakfast.
The cinnamon and pecan rolls are great, and the only reason I
don't go there more often is they don't serve breakfast very late
(I think they close at 10 or so Saturday, which is ridiculous.)
and it's hard to get in (always a very good sign).

I recommend to Gaylin Laughlin to progress past the Old Town
coffee and brioche and try the chocolate/fig French toast.

One last breakfast tip:

The best croissants in Pasadena are at Patticakes at the
corner of Allen and New York.

Karen Zukor
devoted foodie
e-mail:   zukor@logos.jpl.nasa.gov

Newsgroups: la.eats
From: jkyser@netcom.com (Jeff Kyser)
Subject: Re: yards yards yards
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: la
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:01:53 GMT

cygnus@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Marshall Robin) writes:

>Anyone know good places to get yards of beer (real beer, not Ameri-swill)
>in the Westwood/Santa Monica/Venice Beach areas? Half-yards will work too.
>thanks...

McGinty's in Santa Monica is a cool place.  I believe it's on Wilshire.
They serve mostly imported beer and have yards.

-- 
Jeff Kyser      jkyser@netcom.com      {amdahl,apple,claris}!netcom!jkyser
Newsgroups: la.eats
From: pete@puffin.uucp (Pete Carah)
Subject: Re: The la.eats traffic
Organization: Pete's Unix
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:53:45 GMT

In article <zukor.722049119@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov> zukor@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Karen Zukor) writes:
>First, on the dining database posted by Saumya Meattle:
>
>Who would believe any list that gave the Sawmill (OK steakish
>sort of place) and Cafe Jacoulet (the best Pasadena restaurant
>of all time) the same rating?  Jacoulet shouldn't be on the
>list in any case; it's been closed for at least 1 1/2 years.
>My call:  wrong and out-of-date
The Sawmill is (recently) closed too - for a month or so lately it's
been a tunnel all the way from Lake to the parking lot.  I think walls
are beginning to show up.  The economy has been having its effect on the
south Lake business district (among others) :-(

> ... if Pie and Burger represents Toledo
>cuisine, I might be happy to visit, especially for breakfast.
>The cinnamon and pecan rolls are great, and the only reason I
>don't go there more often is they don't serve breakfast very late
>(I think they close at 10 or so Saturday, which is ridiculous.)
>and it's hard to get in (always a very good sign).
10:30 during the week; I THINK 11 on Saturday and later on Sunday.
I like it too.

I liked Green St. East when they were on Green (even with the same
problem of being hard to get in); I still like it, though it's
gotten overgrown (and STILL hard to get in)...

-- Pete
From: lmiller@aero.org (Lawrence H. Miller)
Newsgroups: la.eats
Subject: Re: Bagels wanted in LA/South Bay
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:05:18 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: groucho.aero.org

In article <1eemb7INNj4e@rana.usc.edu> amanda@rana.usc.edu (Amanda Bischoff) writes:
>
>Help!  My housemate and I are from the east coast (no comments, please! :) )
>and we are *dying* for a decent bagel!  Does anyone know of some
>great bagel shops either in LA or in the South Bay?
>


	I & Joy bagels (Pico near Beverly Dr., perhaps other locations)
	is about the best you'll get in LA.  Little grungy hole in the
	wall places that bake them right there.

-- 
Larry Miller		The Aerospace Corporation
lmiller@aero.org	PO Box 92957		
310-336-5597		LA, CA 90009-2957
Newsgroups: la.eats
From: nadel@keystone.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
Subject: Re: Bagels wanted in LA/South Bay
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Distribution: la
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:38:38 GMT

In article <FAIGIN.92Nov19072051@soldan.aero.org> faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin) writes:
>Try Western Bagel. In West L.A., their shop is on Santa Monica Blvd, about 2
>blocks east of Bundy. Their main shop is on Sepulveda Blvd 1 blk S of Raymer
>in Van Nuys.

Alas, Daniel is reflecting his being a native of L.A..  Western Bagel is
awful - their bagels have a decent flavor but the texture is way off.

I and Joy is about the best one can find, without doing it themselves.
And they even have onion pletzels some of the time.

There's one on Pico just east of Glenville and I think there are two other
branches.


Miriam Nadel
From: nickn@midiline.la.ca.us (nick nelson)
Newsgroups: la.eats
Subject: Re: Breakfast on the Eastside
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:38:31 PST
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell) writes:
> 
> Ok, heck, while we're at it what are people's votes for
> breakfast hangs on the eastside (greater Pasadena inclusive)?
> 

I've always liked Burger Continental's breakfasts (on Lake near 
Californis).  They're big, too.


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