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From: ARCHER@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Subject: Re: Trigger happy or gun crazy?
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:49:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.151402.14929@menudo.uh.edu> nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU (C Nagappa - behind the scenes) writes:
>Last month a Haloween trick-or-treater was blown away for just stepping
>into the wrong house. Now, just two days ago a jogger was sniped and killed
>by a dear hunter after being mistook for a reindeer!
>
>I think Americans are more trigger happy than gun crazy.
>
>C Nagappa
>(CNagappa@uh.edu)

We are neither.
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From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: Why is Yoga considered an occult practise?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 21 DEC 92 15:34:12    


In article <1992Dec21.172629.20974@news2.cis.umn.edu>, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes...
> 
>Yoga, to the best of my knowledge and belief, is a combination of
>physical exercise (with heavy emphasis on deep breathing) and some
>amount of transcendental meditation (trying to keep the mind blank
>for an extended period of time.) This practise is not packaged with 
>any religious connotations.

	Yoga means 'to join'. It is the joining of the 'soul' with 'God'.
	There are various forms of Yoga - Gyana, Raja, Karma and Bhakti.

	Yoga is normally performed for others. The apirant has to offer
	all 'actions' and 'results' to God. The idea is that let God
	work through the aspirant for others.

	Concentration is not 'blanking of the mind'. It is the exercise
	of the mind so that it can be controlled by the divine will rather
	than be controlled by the lower nature of prakriti, i.e., the
	gunas. In such concentration, there is no inaction but 'intense' 
	action where all forces of the mind are organized and disciplined.

	Hathayoga is the perfection of the body by the control of
	the pranic energy.
> 
>My question is as follows: Is the branding of Yoga as a form of
>devil worship chiefly out of ignorance or is it me that is missing
>a part of this picture?
> 

	It is cheifly out of ignorance. It is a Hindu idea but is applicable
	to any individual irrespective of race, creed, belief or country. 
	One doesn't need be a Hindu, for example, to perform Yoga.

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From: kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: US interventionism
Date: 3 Jan 1993 05:41:48 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article 10615, jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue) says, in part:


>I'd always felt that past world wars were started with fairly small,
>regional conflicts, but grew out of control before they ended.

I wouldn't call the German-British rivalry of WWI a regional conflict, nor
would I apply that term to the German and Japanese actions that initiated
WWII.  Both world wars in this century were manifestations of large-scale
imperialist ambitions.

>I think that "nipping it in the bud" has probably saved lives in the long
>run in conflicts like Granada, Nicaragua & Kuwait.  Somalia is hardly
>comparable to our intervention in those conflicts as it's mainly to ensure
>the delivery of food - ie save lives!  This is why we act under
>the auspices of the U.N., so the US isn't the only country held 
>accountable for what happens in the world.  We just happen to be the
>one country in the position to do anything about it.

Some lives MAY have been saved, but whose?  And at what cost?  We may have
different values, you and I; I would not assume that all human life is
equally valuable, nor would I presume to say that the deaths of thousands
of Iraqi children by malnutrition or disease are justified in order to
preserve the hegemony of the Kuwaiti royal family.

Neither do I think that we are, or should be, responsible for the security
of the rest of the world.  In my most humble opinion, the rest of the world's
purported inability to solve its problems results from a lack of interest in
doing so.  We are NOT the only ones in a position to do anything; we are the
only ones foolish enough to stick our necks out.


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From: pa142548@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Subject: Re: Reagan dodged the draft!
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:36:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.034332.17477@digi.lonestar.org> gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo) writes:

>The significant thing about Clinton's draft dodging is that it appears to have
>been ideologically motivated.  

I dunno.  I think he was just afraid to get shot at.  But then, Slick Willie 
is a gun-grabbing bastard who will disregard constitutionally protect civil 
liberties when is suits his social agenda, so I'm always ready to believe 
ANYTHING bad about him.  My opinions are suspect.

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From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: The Leftist Media
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 17:54:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.143519.15489@panix.com> patth@panix.com (Patt Bromberger) writes:
>In article <BzsCsq.CBu@news.cso.uiuc.edu> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec22.183628.2074@bmers145.bnr.ca> kennyy@bnr.ca (Kenny Yan) writes:
>>>> I weep for a generation that gets its "facts" from TV. Doesn't anyone READ,
>>>> anymore?
>>>> 
>>> [deleted] 
>>
>>George Bush was right on the money when he said that his real enemyt in
>>the last election was the Media, not the condidates.  The newsmedia
>> [      ]
>>
>George Bush's real enemies are the truth and his belief that he and
>his family are above the law.  He hasn't yet been able to silence
>Judge Lawrence E. Walsh, Special Prosecutor: Iran-Gate!

Actually there are a lot of times that the press turns a blind eye
to scandals WORSE than Iran-Gate.  Ted Kennedy has gotten a free ride,
as have some others.  The truth may have hurt Bush, but in many cases the
truth never gets out.

I really should have said that the real friend of Bill Clinton was
the Media.  They panned off many of the 'scandals' of his:  His
alleged adultery with J. Flowers, His 'experience' with Marijuana.
Similar scandals against a conservative candidate would have been
given MAJOR COVERAGE:  Contrast the accusations of Draft Dodging in
1988 with Dan Quayle, and draft dodging with Bill Clinton - not  the
same treatment at all!

When i see this very unbiased coverage, especially on choosing exactly
*what* to cover and emphasize, it makes me slightly ill, and makes
me wonder exactly whose adjenda, if any, they follow.

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From: mallidi@a.cs.okstate.edu (MALLIDI SATYANARAY)
Subject: Re: Why is Yoga considered an occult practise?
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 22:23:09 GMT

From article <1992Dec21.172629.20974@news2.cis.umn.edu>, by prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar):
> On a recent trip to Knoxville, Tennessee, I turned on the TV in the
> hotel at about midnight. What I saw on the Christian network struck
> me as interesting.
> 
> is taught to children. And the program cited Yoga as an example of
> occult devil worship which left me a little amazed.
> 
> Satya Prabhakar

  Yoga has been considered as one way of achieving salvation. It combines
  both the Hindu religious concepts and physica and mental exercises.
  But, what ever is practiced by most of the people does not involve any
  religious thing. Pranayama, asanas, meditation is nothing to do with
  what your religious beliefs are. But, the view that Yoga is an occult
  thing has been being propagated by Christian missionaries. There seems
  to be a tendency among these people (either wantedly or out of ignorance)
  to say whatever looks strange in other religions is occult. They might
  also have a fear that Yoga becoming popular could mean some spreading
  of a Hindu practice. But there are many Americans, who like Yoga and
  are better aware of it. 


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From: jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue)
Subject: Re: US interventionism
Originator: jsue@mars.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: The Dow Chemical Company
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 01:18:26 GMT

In article <1i55slINN8u@shelley.u.washington.edu> kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante) writes:
>
>I also think we have no business being in Somalia, just as we had no
>business in Viet Nam, Granada, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Lebanon, Kuwait,
>Korea, or any other place where our imagined interests were imaginarily
>at stake.
>

Perhaps you believe that we (the US) can exist in isolation?
Wasn't this disproved before?  I'm not saying that we should have been in all
of those conflicts, however to say that we do not have a vested interest
in what else is going on in the world is very short-sighted, if not comletely
lacking in reality.  Our vested interests in many historical conflicts in
the long-term include economical interests as well as eventual "loss of
lives" interests.

I'd always felt that past world wars were started with fairly small,
regional conflicts, but grew out of control before they ended.  I
think that "nipping it in the bud" has probably saved lives in the long
run in conflicts like Granada, Nicaragua & Kuwait.  Somalia is hardly
comparable to our intervention in those conflicts as it's mainly to
ensure the delivery of food - ie save lives!  This is why we act under
the auspices of the U.N., so the US isn't the only country held 
accountable for what happens in the world.  We just happen to be the
one country in the position to do anything about it.



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From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: Census Bureau released National Ancestry figures
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:41:07 GMT

>>      CENSUS BUREAU WEDNESDAY RELEASED NATIONAL ANCESTRY FIGURES

The Census Bureau noted of all the American Citizens Interviewed,
1 in 1 were American Citizens.

Its high time that we concentrate on being AMERICANS and doing our best
NOW, rather than gaze dewey eyed on the past and wax nostalgic about
an era we were not even a part of!


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From: kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: SPEEDING TICKET / DEFINITELY NOT INVESTING
Date: 31 Dec 1992 05:18:04 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

The best thing to do is plead stupidity when the cop stops
you: "Gee, officer, my attention must have wandered; I don't
have any idea how fast I was going.  I was just following 
along with the traffic.  Was I speeding?"

Don't lie to them, don't argue with them, and don't admit
anything.

You can forget about getting any leniency from the judge, 
unless you happen to be married to his daughter.  Pay the 
ticket, and live and learn.

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From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why is Yoga considered an occult practise?
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:12:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec21.202710.23606@news2.cis.umn.edu>, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes...
>(james.w.lacey) writes:
> 
>It appears to me that there is a more fundamental reason why 
>strict Christians think Hinduism is basically flawed. The Hindu
>philosophy attributes "omnipresence" as one of God's characteristics.
>It says that there is God in every one of us and Yoga is a way to
>realize this inner self. Christianity sees divinity in Christ and
>no where else. Any suggestion of divinity among ordinary mortals
>is perhaps offensive to them and, therefore, so is the practise opf
>Yoga and its philosphical undercurrents.
> 
>Is there any validity to the above reasoning or what?

	I think the basic diference between Hinduism and Chrisianity is
	the idea of divinity as you yourself has said. But what is the
	broader meaning of this idea? Christianity argues that humans
	are born as sinners which means that humans have no divinity.
	Hindus say that all humans have that divinity, in varying degree,
	through which the human being rise to the level of god-like
	attributes through the practice of Yoga (Just think yoga as
	action or effort). I don't know where did this idea came from
	into being. Christ did talk about divinity in human beings. 
	(I can bring the references if some one is interested.)

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From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
Subject: Re: Why is Yoga considered an occult practise?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:45:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.172629.20974@news2.cis.umn.edu>, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
> On a recent trip to Knoxville, Tennessee, I turned on the TV in the
> hotel at about midnight. What I saw on the Christian network struck
> me as interesting.
> 
> up by quoting several instances where occult and satanic material 
> is taught to children. And the program cited Yoga as an example of
> occult devil worship which left me a little amazed.
> 

Doesnt surprise me at all. About two months ago, there was a
lecture titled "Why Hindus are going to Hell ?" here at Purdue.

> My question is as follows: Is the branding of Yoga as a form of
> devil worship chiefly out of ignorance or is it me that is missing
> a part of this picture?
> 

I think it is a deliberate effort to misinform. What is a better
way to attract people than to paint unbelievers as devil worshippers
destined for eternal hell ?

> Satya Prabhakar
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> Tell me what you pay attention to and I will tell you who you are!
> 					-Ortega Y' Gasset

RKP
From: petel@sequent.com (Pete Lancashire)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: New Year culture in Portland, OR
Date: 2 Jan 93 05:12:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan2.051216.26460
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

Well Portland, OR just expresed it's 'culture' for the new year;
Two skin-head gangs had a shoot out, one daed.

Happy New Year

-pete
petel@sequent.com
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From: gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: Weights and Measures
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:42:08 GMT

mv> Michael Vogel

mv> Is the USA ever going to change from the US-customary system to the metric
    system?

  We're halfway there. Nearly everything has the metric equivalent somewhere
  on it. Food labels, car speedometers, and so on.

mv> To which extent and in which fields and professional branches is the metric
    system used in the USA?

  I can tell you that the atmospheric sciences are practically totally metric.
  Of course, if we could only get those goofy oceanographers to switch to
  meter-kilogram-second (mks) instead of centimeter-gram-second (cgs) we'd
  all be better off.

mv> Who knows any abolished or rare units which are applied in special profes-
    sional branches only, such as in mining, farming, navigation, etc.?

  I haven't heard of rods or furlongs or slugs being used recently.

mv> Is the majority of Americans in favor of a change to the metric system or
    do they prefer to keep their US measures?

  The majority probably prefer the English system. I believe it was President
  Ford who really got the metric ball rolling, so to speak, and not many 
  people took to it, to say the least. Americans don't like being told what
  to do, especially if the rest of the world says so. Americans would rather
  cut off their right arms than follow Europe, Canada, &c.

mv> Does the NAFTA-treaty say anything about the use of weights and measures
    in Canada, USA and Mexico?

  I haven't the faintest idea.

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From: hdavies@rx.xerox.com (Hugh J.E. Davies)
Subject: Re: help: toe socks (remember them?)
Reply-To: hdavies@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:15:08 GMT

In article 7Dx@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu, thomasl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ((thomasl)) writes:

[Stuff deleted]

>(aside from a big round ball of a chair
>such as the kind number one sits in on the prisoner t.v. show)
>
[more stuff deleted]


Only a small point, but the person sitting in the round chair in The Prisoner is Number 2, not number 1. Number 1 is never shown, except in the last show.

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From: komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Mark 'Henry' Komarinski)
Subject: Re: Speeding Ticket: Subtelty in answering the officer?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 06:29:32 GMT

prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:

>Today has not been the best of days. I was doing around 35-38 in 
>a 30 mile zone and got trapped by the cop. 

>He asked me if I knew at what speed I am going. I told him "35!'
>He replied saying that he tracked me at 43 which I sincerely
>think is not true.

*never* answer that question.  Ask him how fast you were going.  It's not
your job to convict yourself.  Make the officer tell you what he clocked
you at.  Then take 'im to court.  :)

-Mark

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From: raghavan@wk28.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan)
Subject: Re: Why is Yoga considered an occult practise?
Organization: -
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 20:00:27 GMT

prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>On a recent trip to Knoxville, Tennessee, I turned on the TV in the
>hotel at about midnight. What I saw on the Christian network struck
>me as interesting.
>
>The program was dedicated to exposing how anti-Christian forces
>have taken American schools hostage. The program backed this assertion 
>up by quoting several instances where occult and satanic material 
>is taught to children. And the program cited Yoga as an example of
>>occult devil worship which left me a little amazed.
>>....
>>My question is as follows: Is the branding of Yoga as a form of
>>devil worship chiefly out of ignorance or is it me that is missing
>>a part of this picture?

Salesmanship. This National Enquirer version of evangelism brings
in megabucks to these ministries. They don't care if what they
are saying is true or not.

Raghavan, V.
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From: jlacey@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (james.w.lacey)
Subject: Re: Why is Yoga considered an occult practise?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:56:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.172629.20974@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>On a recent trip to Knoxville, Tennessee, I turned on the TV in the
>hotel at about midnight. What I saw on the Christian network struck
>me as interesting.
>
>The program was dedicated to exposing how anti-Christian forces
>have taken American schools hostage. The program backed this assertion 
>up by quoting several instances where occult and satanic material 
>is taught to children. And the program cited Yoga as an example of
>occult devil worship which left me a little amazed.
>....
>My question is as follows: Is the branding of Yoga as a form of
>devil worship chiefly out of ignorance or is it me that is missing
>a part of this picture?
>...

(1) Sorry to say, but most Americans are very ignorant of other
religions, and often dont really now much about their own,
except that it represents the Truth(tm).  For example, I have
heard many Americans say "we all worship the same God" but
they have absolutely *no* idea who Allah or Shiva are (say).

(2) The "Christian" network that you saw actually represents
a small sub-set of Christianity, usually called fundamentalists.
IMHO, their beliefs are similar to, but also differ from, most
Christians.  Most Christians in the US are members of either
the Catholic Church or "mainstream" (non-fundy) Protestent
Churches.  Unfortunately, some fundies like to use the
term "Christian" to apply only to themselves.


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From: vogelm@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Michael Vogel)
Subject: Weights and Measures
Originator: vogelm@hphalle6h.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:40:17 GMT


I would like to get some information about weights and measures.
Is the USA ever going to change from the US-customary system to the metric
system?
To which extent and in which fields and professional branches is the metric
system used in the USA?
Who knows any abolished or rare units which are applied in special 
professional branches only, such as in mining, farming, navigation, etc.?
Is the majority of Americans in favor of a change to the metric system or
do they prefer to keep their US measures?
Does the NAFTA-treaty say anything about the use of weights and measures
in Canada, USA and Mexiko?

Any information regarding weights and measures is appreciated.

  Thanks for yous efforts
  
  Michael Vogel, Munich, Germany

  e-mailaddress: vogelm@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE

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