HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Me
Subject: PS/2 50Z For Sale
Reply-To: Me
Organization: Me
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:06:04 GMT

Excellent condition.  Original owner.  Priced for fast sell!
   1 IBM PS/2 50Z
     - 80286/10 Mhz CPU
     - MCA
     - 1 Mb RAM expandable to 16 Mb
     - 0 wait state
     - Internal 30 Mb ESDI hard drive
     - 1.44 Mb 3-1/2 internal disk drive
     - 720 K 5-1/4 external disk drive
     - 3 MCA expansion slots
     - Enhanced keyboard
   1 IBM 8513 VGA monitor
   All boxes, manuals, cables, & diskettes that came with above
$700 or find best price (I'll beat by at least 50%).

Excellent condition.  Still contemplating whether to sell or not.
   Used :
      1 IBM PS/2  30 Mb internal hard drive
      1 IBM PS/2  60 Mb internal hard drive
      1 CMS PS/2 120 Mb internal hard drive
   New :
      1 IBM PS/2 120 Mb internal hard drive
      1 IBM PS/2 320 Mb internal hard drive
      1 IBM PS/2 960 Mb internal hard drive
Find best price.  I'll beat by at least 25%, maybe even more!

Preference to closest buyers.  Buyers pays shipping and handling.

Regards,
dml7@navaho.cc.bellcore.com
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: What's the Max amt. of RAM a PS/2 Model 70 can take?
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:26:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

What's the max amount of RAM a PS/2 mdl 70 can take on its motherboard?
I've acquired a '70 with 4Meg (of RAM on the motherboard).
I'd like to add more (since I will be using it as a Netware Server).
I'd like to max out the motherboard if possible.

Any help would be *GREATLY* appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

--tony

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald)
Subject: Volume of system bell
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:33:50 GMT

This may be a very basic question, but I'm quite unclear when it comes to
the technical area of a computer's inner workings.

I recently bought a PS/2 model 25 (yes, I know, but it's just for calling
into school, and it was only $75) and this has the loudest bell I've ever
heard.  You can hear a little vibration from the computer when it goes off.
Is there any way to turn it down?  I don't mean unplugging the speaker, but
just toning it down a bit?  Thanks in advance.

						-Tom
-- 
Okay, one more time.  This is your brain. (egg)
This is your brain on drugs. (egg in frying pan)
Any Questions?
"Yeah, can I have mine scrambled?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli)
Subject: floppy write protection - can bypass?
Organization: Universita' di Perugia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:34:06 GMT

Using the Norton Commander in a PC (a Toshiba), it seems possible to write
on a write protect floppy.

My questions are:

1 - the write protection is done by HW or SW?

2 - can the write protection be bypassed from the SW?

3 - is there any difference among different PC brands?

Thank you very much.

Luca
From: egharbaw@nmsu.edu (Eihab Gharbawi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: RE: Low-level formatting a HD in PS/2 model 30
Date: 11 Oct 92 03:41:51 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

Greetings,

You will have to do that through the reference diskette.  At the test
the computer option press control A and select format hard disk.

Eihab
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 13 Oct 1992 22:41:20 CDT
From: Darius Vaskelis <U54345@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: BUS TIMEOUT in Win3.1 with .WAVs on sound blaster/MCV

>I have a question about the SB card.  In the readme.txt file
>included in the sofware it states :
>
>"On the Sound Blaster MCV Card the shunt across the JP5 Jumper is required
>only for system such as Model 70 and 80 which have higher I/O channel
>transfer rate.  REMOVE the shunt across JP5 Jumper, if you have a PS/2
>system with a slower I/O transfer rate such as PS/2 Model 50 and 55."
>
>I had a look on my board and it turns out that this jumper
>is soldered closed.  Could this be the source of the problems?
[...]
>PS I have a 55SX.

Yep!

Apparently the Sound Blaster/MCV originally had the PS/2 Models 50, 50Z,
55SX, 60, and 65SX in mind.  It turns out it didn't work in PS/2s that
had a 32-bit bus.  So, they modified the original design, but made it a
jumper on the adapter itself.  If you run it in a 16-bit machine, you
are supposed to break the solder connection before trying to use the
adapter.  Otherwise you'll get unpredictable results.

- Darius
I do not speak for IBM Corp.
--
Darius Vaskelis (IBM Marketing/Technical Support)
University of Illinois Account Team
One IBM Plaza  15-WAE                    Telephone: (312) 245-3532
Chicago, IL 60611                         Internet: U54345@uicvm.uic.edu
From: kurt@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Kurt Sletterdahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: My Video is Munged!!! HELP!!!
Date: 11 Oct 92 03:05:00 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

I had a similar computer, an 8086 PS/2 Model 30. It only had MCGA, a subset of
VGA. My recollection is that MCGA is capable of 640 * 480 resolution, but that
only two colors can be displayed at once at that resolution.

UUCP: {amdahl!bungia, uunet!rosevax, crash}!orbit!pnet51!kurt
ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!kurt@nosc.mil
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From: ak@ananke.stgt.sub.org (Andreas Kaiser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: 486slc? What is it? 
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 15:05:15 GMT
Organization: ananke


In article <1992Oct11.150634.16282@husc3.harvard.edu> khoo@husc3.harvard.edu writes:

  > The IBM 486 SLC processor uses the Intel 486 core

No. IBMs 486SLC2 is a modified clock doubling version of IBMs 386SLC
which is little more than a plain 386SX chip with internal cache added.
The 486SLC2 has a 16KB cache.

		Gruss, Andreas

:::::::::::::::::::: subnet:  ak@ananke.stgt.sub.org
:: Andreas Kaiser :: fidonet: 2:241/7220.9
::::::::::::::::::::
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 11 Oct 1992 23:55:56 CDT
From: Darius Vaskelis <U54345@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: What's Special about PS/2?

>I have jt noticed the IBM PS/2 group at a time when I am considering buying g
>a
>new system to replace my NEC 286 (mono). And I wonder, Why IBM PS/2 (or for
>that matter, PS/1). Does this line have anything beyond what is available from
>clones or quasi-clones such as NEC, Compaq, et al? For example, I can get
>something called the SLC SX (SXLC?) with 8 megs of ram for a reasonable price,
>only a few hundred more than clones; but why? I am not a number-cruncher or
>hacker, using my computer ONLY for textwork, some database stuff. I look
>forward to reasons for the enthusiasm of this group's members.--

Because they are simply the best personal systems you can buy.  (I am a
little biased I suppose...)

The new PS/2 Premium Line is just incredible... high-performance CPUs
(all are 486) with high-performance hard disks (with very fast SCSI) with
high-performance graphics (bus-mastering XGA-2) at an affordable price
(*REALLY*) and three-year on-site service if it breaks down.  Can't beat
it.

- Darius
I do not speak for IBM Corp., but I have a sneaky feeling that in this
case, they're probably thinking along the same lines.  :)
--
Darius Vaskelis (IBM Marketing/Technical Support)
University of Illinois Account Team
One IBM Plaza  15-WAE                    Telephone: (312) 245-3532
Chicago, IL 60611                         Internet: U54345@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: What's Special about PS/2?
Originator: rjones@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Supersedes: <1992Oct11.004317.21730@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:10:56 GMT


How about the 3 year 7 day, 24 hour 4 hour (average response time)         

warrantee! That's worth more than a few hundred dollars to me. The  486SLC 
is pretty hot (see PC Week June 92).

-- 
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 < The Ohio State University   |    Office:      (614) 292-1665 >
 < 338 West Tenth Avenue       |    FAX:(9-5PM)  (614) 292-7151 > 
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From: sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: My Video is Munged!!! HELP!!!
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:50:43 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware: 9-Oct-92 My Video is
Munged!!! HELP!!! by oberland@vax.sonoma.edu 
> SAY "VGA" on the box, but the resolution is REALLY 320*200*256.
> There are some exceptions, but this is generally the rule.

I'm assuming that you have a model 25, since its the only one with a
built-in monitor.  This sounds like your problem:  You think you have
VGA when you don't.  You have MCGA.  They run a lot of the same modes,
and sometimes even VGA programs will work on an MCGA machine, but when
things use the features of VGA that are not in the MCGA card, your
hosed, and there's nothing you can do about it.  Make sure anything
you're trying to run says "VGA/MCGA" not just "VGA"  

Steve


"Eight o'clock in the morning and the daylight makes me look and feel
like hell" -OMD
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 8 Oct 1992 23:28:12 CDT
From: John D. Serrano <U28661@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: IBM number needed

In article <1992Oct8.141724.500@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, tobe7093@saturn.edu (tobey
christophe) says:
>
>Does anyone happen to know the number for the IBM Educational Fullfillment
>Center?
>
>Much appreciated...
>
>chris.

I tried sending you mail, but it bounced.  In any case, ther center's
phone number is 800-IBM-3327.

Regards,

John
From: oberland@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: Munged video/how do I re-wire my video to run a VGA card?
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:59:26 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

So?  I still don't see a practical reason for what it does.

the "VGA" games I run/try to ACTUALLY run in 320*200.
There should not be a problem.  I have 256K Video-Ram
My monitor CAN scan at VGA resolution.

It seems that I should be able to run them.
WHY do the companies do this?  There is no REAL difference
between MCGA and "VGA"(what the games run at).

Can I get a software patch to fix this?  It seems cheap of them
to not support, what in reality, is THE SAME RESOLUTION AND COLOR DEPTH.

Guess I amgoing to have to see if I can wire a "VGA" card into this thing.

Does anyone know what wires I should put where(Hopefully want to make
aVGA-type connector running from the "back" of the monitor to a VGA
card stuck in a slot)?
Anyone know how I should go about finding out how to do this?

I figure that it should be just a matter of some re-wiring.

Thanks,
Joe
From: Me
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: Unknown Ram Board - Help !!
Keywords: Ram Board
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:06:21 GMT
Reply-To: Me
Organization: Me

In article <1992Oct12.122050.5271@odin.diku.dk> elmer@diku.dk (Kenneth FolmerPetersen) writes:
>
>	I have a used ramboard of unknown origin and I am
>trying to install it in my IBM PS/2 50Z.
>	The installation failed with an errormessage :
>
>	"WARNING : Unable to find the file with the adaptordescription."
>
>(The actual errormessage was a little different - in danish)
>	The ram board came in an original IBM box with the text:
>
>	"IBM Personal System/2
>	 80286 Memory Expansion Option
>	 6451001"
>
>	I dont know whether the ram board is from IBM. But the
>following text is found on the board :
>
>	"EC-4-0 04-8
>	 Copyright 1987
>	 TECMAR INC.
>
>	 MICRORAM BOARD 939310 REV B"
>
>Does anyone know this board? Where can I get the file with the
>adaptordescription ?
>
>Any help is appreciated.  Thanks in advance!!

sounds like you need an updated reference diskette ...
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 12 Oct 1992 22:42:26 CDT
From: Darius Vaskelis <U54345@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: What's Special about PS/2?
 <1992Oct11.204721.7578@scott.skidmore.edu>
 <sheldon.718907791@pv1413.vincent.iastate.edu>

> We've looked at IBM's newer models, but a PS/2 computer is still twice
>the price of a similarly equipped clone.  Even at educational prices.

Similarly equipped clone?  So like for the 56SLC2, you compared it to
a third-party 33MHz 486SX (which the 56SLC2 will usually outperform) that
has a local bus attached bus-mastering SCSI interface and a bus-mastering
high-performance coprocessed graphics subsystem?

Forgive me, I was being facetious.  I honestly feel that the 56SLC2 (and
the other PS/2 Premium line machines) give you QUITE a lot of bang for
the buck even compared to lower-priced machines from parts-gathering
companies.

But I digress... I monitor this base primarily for answering technical
questions about PS/2s.  But let me end with the one feature of the
Premium PS/2s that should put aside any fears of a lemon; they all come
with three-year on-site service from IBM.

- Darius
I do not speak for IBM Corp.

Just to make one thing clear, since my last few messages have strayed a
bit out of the realm of technical support.  I do not monitor or post to
this conference as part of my job; quite the opposite, I doubt that my
manager is even aware of my presence here!  I post here on my own time
because I have a good knowledge of IBM hardware and most of the time
think I can be of some help.  I am not here as an IBM spokesperson, but
merely a fan.  :)

Additionally, since some have asked me in e-mail; I read Usenet from
this account (as opposed to one based on an IBM-owned system) because the
newsreader here that the University of Illinois at Chicago is just so
damn good!  My compliments to those that maintain it.
--
Darius Vaskelis (IBM Marketing/Technical Support)
University of Illinois Account Team
One IBM Plaza  15-WAE                    Telephone: (312) 245-3532
Chicago, IL 60611                         Internet: U54345@uicvm.uic.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 12 Oct 1992 08:58:03 CDT
From: Darius Vaskelis <U54345@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: Unknown Ram Board - Help !!

>        I have a used ramboard of unknown origin and I am
>trying to install it in my IBM PS/2 50Z.
>        The installation failed with an errormessage :
>
>        "WARNING : Unable to find the file with the adaptordescription."
>
>(The actual errormessage was a little different - in danish)
>        The ram board came in an original IBM box with the text:
>
>        "IBM Personal System/2
>         80286 Memory Expansion Option
>         6451001"
>
>        I dont know whether the ram board is from IBM. But the
>following text is found on the board :
>
>        "EC-4-0 04-8
>         Copyright 1987
>         TECMAR INC.
>
>         MICRORAM BOARD 939310 REV B"
>
>Does anyone know this board? Where can I get the file with the
>adaptordescription ?

Sounds like it's a Tecmar MicroRAM.  :)

I'd call Tecmar for the ADF file.  Unfortunately, the only telephone
number I have for Tecmar is their toll-free number, (800) 344-4463, and I
don't think you can call United States toll-free numbers from Denmark.
Perhaps someone else has the regular number for Tecmar or their BBS if
they have one?

Once you get the proper ADF file, just copy it to your backup copy of
your PS/2's Reference Diskette.  Then, boot using that diskette and run
Automatic Configuration.  (The file will be in the form @xxxx.ADF and
possibly a similar DGS file.)

- Darius
I do not speak for IBM Corp.
--
Darius Vaskelis (IBM Marketing/Technical Support)
University of Illinois Account Team
One IBM Plaza  15-WAE                    Telephone: (312) 245-3532
Chicago, IL 60611                         Internet: U54345@uicvm.uic.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992 20:06:15 CDT
From: John David Serrano <U35828@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: PS2/30-286 Bus architecture and ram

In article <1992Oct14.222614.10655@news2.cis.umn.edu>, tnnguyen@tera.cs.umn.edu
(Trung N. Nguyen) says:
>
>Does anyone knows if the PS2/30-286 has an ISA bus or EISA bus?  I know
>that it does not have a MCA bus.  Also, I notice that it has four
>memory slots, each of which looks like a normal SIMM slot.  Can you use
>a regular 1Mx9 SIMMS here or do you have to get the IBM part?  How about
>1Mx3 SIMMS?  Any info is appreciated.
>
>                                Trung

The 30-286 has three ISA expansion slots.

Regarding memory, you can't plug in generic 1x9 SIMMS into the beast;
you need the IBM 2.0 MB Memory Module Kit, P/N 30F5360 (or 3rd party
equivalent).  Remember to run Automatic Configuration with the Starter
Diskette once you have added the extra memory.

Regards,

John
From: oberland@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: Munged Video/how do I re-wire my video?
Date: 12 Oct 92 07:07:50 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

Thanks for the info.  I'll try to locate one of those adaptors.

Btw, I KNOW all about the MCGA and VGA, but what I was griping about
was the fact that all but a HANDFULL of gmaes are 320*200.

Other than the codes telling the amchine to run off
a "qq||VGA" card, the end result still is the same as MCGA.
I am annoyed that they do this.
Of course, if I get a VGA card, I'll be able torun SVGA
mode games(I STILLL don't know why they call the modes the wrong things)
SVGA in games=640*480*256
Very confusing.  In fact, Maxis and a couple others are the
only companies that I know of that actually get it right.
VGA for them is 640*480, not 320*200

oh well...  
Does someone know where I can get a schematic for my machine?
A pinout for its monitor?

I figure that after I get a VGA card running(with 1 meg on it),
My problems should mostly cease.  (speed is NOT a concern with me, but
graphics and such is...
Hm... can't wait to look at all the 8-bit gifs I have stored away...
:)

Joe
-sorry if the post has garbage in it, but the lines here are so bad that
I get garbage thru even WITH v.22/bis turned on.
Guess I need a 9600 modem...
From: jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: floppy write protection - can bypass?
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:14:14 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli) writes:

>2 - can the write protection be bypassed from the SW?

Im sure someone more knowledgable than me will give a better answer,
but an IBM CE friend of mine once told me that the floppy disk controller
(FDC) is responsible for looking at the write-protect state of the floppy
and deciding if it should be written to or not.  It is then possible to
either fool the FDC or make it ignore the write-protect status and thus
write to a protected disk.  In theory anyway.... :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: cs260178@ucs.usl.edu (Segura William C)
Subject: FTP sites?
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:53:17 GMT
From: pr@umiacs.umd.edu (Jesus Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: 486slc? What is it?
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:50:06 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies
Originator: pr@fnord.umiacs.umd.edu


In article <718902315snx@ananke.stgt.sub.org>, ak@ananke.stgt.sub.org (Andreas Kaiser) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Oct11.150634.16282@husc3.harvard.edu> khoo@husc3.harvard.edu writes:
|> 
|>   > The IBM 486 SLC processor uses the Intel 486 core
|> 
|> No. IBMs 486SLC2 is a modified clock doubling version of IBMs 386SLC
|> which is little more than a plain 386SX chip with internal cache added.
|> The 486SLC2 has a 16KB cache.
|> 
|> 		Gruss, Andreas
|> 
|> :::::::::::::::::::: subnet:  ak@ananke.stgt.sub.org
|> :: Andreas Kaiser :: fidonet: 2:241/7220.9
|> ::::::::::::::::::::

I will disagree with you.  The IBM 486SLC2 DOES indeed use the 486 instruction set.
Intel and IBM both agree that IT IS a 486.

Jesus M. Rodriguez
pr@umiacs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: Re: What's Special about PS/2?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:47:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.104836.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> singer@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:
>I have jt noticed the IBM PS/2 group at a time when I am considering buying g a
>new system to replace my NEC 286 (mono). And I wonder, Why IBM PS/2 (or for
>that matter, PS/1). Does this line have anything beyond what is available from
>clones or quasi-clones such as NEC, Compaq, et al? For example, I can get
>something called the SLC SX (SXLC?) with 8 megs of ram for a reasonable price,
>only a few hundred more than clones; but why? I am not a number-cruncher or
>hacker, using my computer ONLY for textwork, some database stuff. I look
>forward to reasons for the enthusiasm of this group's members.-- 

I do all the software and hardware installations in my department (not
part of my job description, but, hey, it's a hobby :-) ).  We have
always had IBM PCs, from the PC, through the XT, (one AT) to the PS/2
line.  I can say that the microchannel is a huge time saver, a breaze,
a luxury!  I can't tell you the number of times I've spent hours on
one non microchannel machine (PC, XT vintage, and yes, today I spent
several hours on a Dell 486 ISA installing an Ethernet board) trying
to get the interrupts and memory addresses to work when adding or
changing an adapter card.  With PS/2s, I pop in a card, run the
reference program and voila, done!

In addition, we've had few mechanical problems with PS/2s.  My kids
have had more problems with their ISA clones then I've experienced
with my PS/2 at home or the ones at school.  The one negative thing -
MC adapters cost more, are harder to find, and may not exist for all
products.  Cost - well, I always get educational prices for our
department, so they're not so bad.  (Of course recently, when my kids
needed a PC, even IBM's discount couldn't match a Northgate or Gateway
386-SX.)  Now, their pricing is coming down, so it may be a good time
to get one.

-- 
Pierre von Kaenel	| Skidmore College	     | pvonk@skidmore.edu
Math & CS Dept.		| Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 | (518)584-5000 Ext 2391

[.... old sig has been retired.  New sig isn't ready yet. ]
From: csa@cup.portal.com (CHUCK - ARAKAWA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: CTX-1760-DF and CTX-1560 Proscan Monitors
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 00:00:00 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Anybody know much about these monitors?  The CPS-1760 is a 17" .28 pitch
monitor.  The CTX-1560 is a 15" .28 pitch monitor.  I have seen them both
and it seems like a nice monitor.  They also come with a 2 year warranty.
How do these compare to other monitors out there?

Any Info would be much appreciated.

E-Mail: csa@cup.portal.com
Phone: (310) 986-2722
Name: Chuck Arakawa