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From: Richard.Dalton@newcastle.ac.uk (Richard Dalton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Extreme Thunder!
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:55:46 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

HEGE@finabo.abo.fi (Kaj H{ggman DC) writes:

[ Stuff Deleted ]


>"Special Guest Star" was Thunder. Unfortunately I don't know their record,
>I've just heard a couple of their songs. Their set started with a playback
>of AC/DC's "Thunderstruck" (the whole song, actually). Correct me if I'm 
>wrong, but they played at least "Everybody Wants Her" and "Love Life In High 
>Places". 'nough of that. 
>To make it short - they surprised me a lot. What a great band on stage! If you 
>like(d) Bad Company, mix it with something a little Coverdaleish, some great 
>riffs, a very good sound - and you've got Thunder! I used to be a big fan
>of Paul Rodgers (especially during his Free area), and this singer must've
>listened to him a lot. A great voice, and he knows how to use it.
>I don't know if they'll ever be really big, I guess they'll need a few more 
>hits for that, but the double Les Paul rhytm sure beats the hell out of me!
>The band played for a little less than an hour.

Excellent arn't they !!

It's 'Low Life in High Places' by the way.

	Rich 'Z'

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            Richard Dalton	        |         Computing Laboratory
 Email: Richard.Dalton@Newcastle.ac.uk  |   University of Newcastle Upon Tyne
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: skipdaly@next17pg2.wam.umd.edu (Scott David Daly)
Subject: Innocence mission
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:20:00 GMT


Anyone out there like a band called The Innocence Mission?

	Anyone got any live tapes of'em?


		Please email me!


					Thanks,
					SKIP
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: chapint@carn21.alleg.edu (Thomas Chapin)
Subject: Night Ranger: record deal?
Keywords: Night Ranger: record deal?
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:53:40 GMT


Does anyone out there know if this version of Night Ranger (Brad  
Gillis/Kelly Keagy/Gary Moon) has a record deal in the works?  The old  
Night Ranger (Gillis/Keagy/Jack Blades/Alan "Fitz"Gerald/Jeff Watson) is  
my all-tome favourite group, but I'm still wondering what this verson of  
NR sounds like.  I don't think they've come to the East, & I'm still too  
young to get into the bars to see them if they did.

About Jeff Watson's solo album, LONE RANGER:  Sammy Hagar sings on one or  
two of the tracks.

Classic Night Ranger still rocks America!

--SIMMONS--
From: tominatr@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Top 10 favourite albums
Date: 21 Nov 92 12:43:23 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

My personal Top Ten:

 1) Genesis - Seconds Out
 2) Genesis - Three Sides Live
 3) Led Zeppelin - IV
 4) Queen - A Night at the Opera
 5) Rush - Exit... Stage Left
 6) Journey - Captured
 7) Pink Floyd - Delicate Sound of Thunder
 8) Phil Collins - Face Value
 9) Journey - Escape
10) Rush - Signals

I like all/most of the albums by the groups/artists listed above.  The Top 10
here stand out in my mind.

       - Tom N.

BTW, yes, I like live albums.


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From: dld30@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Anyone in Germany know about this Steve Perry release?
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:58:01 GMT
Reply-To: dld30@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


There's a release by Steve Perry available in Germany entitled "Truth
To The Rumor" on the Bell Records label.
Is this the same Steve Perry from Journey and, if so, is this release
new stuff a re-packaging of older material.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-Dave                     |           If wishes were horses,
--------------------------|           dogfood would be a lot cheaper.
dld30@quts.ccc.amdahl.com |                          -me
From: eric@soda.berkeley.edu (Eric van Bezooijen)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: lost in the eighties
Date: 16 Nov 1992 07:24:16 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
Keywords: lost, in, the, eighties, not

I have to disagree here.  While I agree that the early eighties produced
some excellent music, I think music, in general, is getting better every
year.

Unfortunately, every year, there is more and more *crappy* music to go along
with this great music.  If you want proof for this, go to any used CD store
(if there is one closeby), and look in the budget/really cheap sections.  You
will see many bands you have never heard of, and if you buy a random 
sampling, you will not like it!  Well, maybe one or two CDs out of a given
set of twenty.

So, the percentage of *crappy* music (measured relatively to any one 
individual) is going up every year.  The saying goes, "90 % of everything
is crappy", but for music it is creeping up to 99.99 %!

Also, it is easier every year to not like main-stream music as you grow older.
If you are young, you are more likely to enjoy something you hear, since you
have less experience in listening, so most things sound relatively better.  A
prime example of this is the Bryan Adams hit from Robin Hood, which I thought
was one of the most cliched, unoriginal, and just plain horrible song I had
ever heard.  Many other people thought otherwise, apperantly, since it sold
more singles than any other song except one.  I am a little sketchy on this
figure, but I do believe it sold millions and millions.

Great stuff is coming out every day, you just have to look harder to find it!
Examples: David Byrne: Uh-oh (1992, and I am listening to it now), The Pixies:
 Trompe Le Mond (1990, I think).

Just my .16 bits...





-- 
"And do you know what's inside?  A priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiize!" - Stimpy
"You gave away ... FORTY-SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS?" - Ren Hoek
I want the 1 hour weekly Ren and Stimpy and Itchy and Scratchy show on Fox NOW!
Eric van Bezooijen - eric@soda.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: weverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (William M. Everett)
Subject: Re: I'm back!!!
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:22:26 GMT

In article <kf3SNNy00iUyM9VIJ2@andrew.cmu.edu> Michael Joseph Swietek <msce+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>      I didn't    make myself clear.   Pink FLoyd is the only  group
>worth discussing.   All other topics are lame.
>

	Form your own newsgroup then. Or if that doesn't work, send e-mail to
yourself.


>      See you later,
>                      Micghael Swietek

	*********************************************************
	*  William Everett		Tan, Rested, and ready  *
	*  Harvey Mudd College		     NIXON in '96       *
	*                                                       *   
	*  These opinions are mine- you can't have them         *   
	*********************************************************
From: kirmani@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Syed H Kirmani)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Who sings One in a Million...Not the one by The Tubes.
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:52:35 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	I think it s One in a million by Modern Talking
that was a third rate group that emerged during the eighties.
later
From: mdavie@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (MARK DAVIES : THIRD)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Hendrix mailing list?
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:06:50 GMT
Organization: Electronic Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, South Africa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc73.ee.und.ac.za

Does anyone know of a Hendrix mailing list?

Mark
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: isupstud@bnr.ca (Todd Strilchuk)
Subject: Re: Top 10 Favorite Albums
Reply-To: isupstud@bnr.ca
Organization: ???
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:47:09 GMT

>>Seeing as I'm kinda bored...here's my list of albums I could play forever and
>>not get sick of...
>>
>>	Van Halen				"5150"
>>	Aerosmith				"Permanent Vacation"
>>	Def Leppard				"Hysteria"
>>	INXS					"Kick"
>>	Robert Plant			"Now and Zen"
>>	Eric Clapton			"Time Pieces"
>>	Simon & Garfunkel		"Greatest Hits"
>>	Tom Cochrane/Red Rider	"Symphony Sessions"
>>	The Whole Led Zeppelin Box Set!
>>
>>I could add the rest of Van Halen's albums too...but I think 5150 is my fav.
>>
>>Mike.

Hey Mike, got some nice choices there.  It's nice to see that some people
recognize the greats like Clapton, Aerosmith, and Simon & Garfunkel.  Take
Zeppelin out of the list and put in the Barenaked Ladies, and there's my list.

-- 

Todd Strilchuk:

	isupstud@bnr.ca

	tstrilch@ugly.uvic.ca

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From: jchandy@crhc.uiuc.edu (John Chandy)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Top 10 Bands of all time
Date: 17 Nov 1992 11:56:57 -0600
Organization: University of Illinois, Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: treflan.crhc.uiuc.edu

Beatles
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Rolling Stones
Who
Hendrix
Allman Brothers
Queen
Clapton
Van Halen (the real Van Halen not Van Hagar)

I think the first five are a definite on the list.  These five bands
are probably the most influential and long-lived bands around.  You
have the ultimate pop band in the Beatles, metal in Zep, alternative
in Floyd, and just straight ahead driving rock-n-roll in the Stones
and the Who.  The last five bands/people change as my music tastes vary.
>Gabe (nahigian@athena.mit.edu)


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From: todd@cleo.abt.com (Todd Nix)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Top 10 Bands of all time
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:57:00 GMT
Organization: Alternative Broadcast Technology

In <jjonsson.247@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
>In article <cubsfan.721781292@camelot> cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes:
>[Top 10 list deleted]
>THE CURE -- Defined Goth. May have defined late '80s early '90s pop along 
>with it.

NOT! Don't get me wrong. I love the Cure, but defining goth? I think not.
Dark videos, mopy lyrics, and black clothes do not a goth band make.
I can define goth in 2 words: Joy Division. And if you need some further
references to go along with it...I'd suggest Bauhaus and the Sisters of Mercy.


As far as influence goes Roxy Music has to be way up on the list. Just
take a look through the Roxy video history and check out where some of the
early 80s most succesful MTV bands got there ideas. (ABC, Adam Ant, Duran Duran,
etc.) Remember, thats where Eno got his start as a musician, so you can
indirectly map all the people he's worked with, including Talking Heads,
DEVO, and U2 back to Roxy.


-- 
Todd Nix                                                           todd@abt.com
 Movement1981-1982Power,Corruption,andLiesLowLifeBrotherhoodSubstanceTechnique
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: lrose@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (punskovsky,linda r)
Subject: Re: Michael des Barres/WKRP question
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:51:50 GMT

In article <9211190245.AA05683@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca> stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal) writes:
>There is someone on the NEW WKRP in Cincinatti TV show with the name
>Michael des Barres. Is this the same guy who was signed to Swan Song
>with his band Detective, who fronted the Power Station when Palmer
>refused to tour, and married Super Slut Pamela?
>
>Tawny Kitaen (Coverdale's ex) is on the show as well, so it might not
>be inconceivable. Can anyone confirm or deny?
>
>Steve
>-- 
>/-------------------------------------------------------------\
>|  Steve Portigal  University of Guelph  Guelph, Ontario      |
>|  stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (519) 824-4120 x 3580      |
>\-------------------------------------------------------------/


Yes, it is the same Michael des Barres.  He also played Martin Mull's lover
on Roseanne.


Lin
From: nahigian@athena.mit.edu (Gabriel H Nahigian)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Beatles "Across the Universe" lyrics
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:58:19 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <97669@netnews.upenn.edu>, vanhemel@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (David Van Hemel ) writes:
|> 
|> I have a lyrics question.  What is it that John is saying in the song
|> "Across the Universe" in the chorus?  I mean the part that comes between
|> "across the universe" and "nothing's gonna change my world."  Also he
|> repeats it over and over again as the song is fading out at the end.
|> It sounds distinctly like not English to me.  John was a strange man
|> (peace be upon him).

John is saying, "Jai Guru Deva, Om."  I believe this to be some sort of an
eastern meditation phrase.

Gabe (nahigian@athena.mit.edu)
From: robertson@pasadena-dc.bofa.com
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Heard this Hendrix tune?
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:14:13 PDT
Organization: Bank America Systems Engineering, Pasadena, CA

Once, a few years back, I was listening to an L.A. rock station (I live in the
area) and in response to a listener's request, the DJ played a Hendrix tune I
had never heard: "The Stars Play with Laughing Sam's Dice".

Those who have heard it will agree that it is classic Hendrix psychedelia, and
I loved it immediately.  Turns out that it was from the collection of the 
locally reknowned Dr. Demento, who had lent it to the station for the occasion.

So I looked and looked, even in the import bins, in the larger record stores
in town, but to no avail.  A year or so later I was in London (first & only
time) and found the title on a British album of odd Hendrix stuff called
"Loose Ends".  Imagine my smug delight.

Imagine my disappointment when I got home and played it.  It was the same tune,
all right, but not the same arrangement, I swear.  It seemed to be missing a
lot of the background vocal noises and comments of Dr. Demento's version, and
in general wasn't as exciting.

So my question is this:  does anyone know what I'm talking about?  
                   and:  how can I get the version I originally heard?
From: clopez@weird.miami.fl.us (Carlos Lopez)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: annie lennox/"DIVA" opinions
Date: 15 Nov 92 15:58:26 EDT
Organization: Weird BBS [Amiga] (305)553-3207 S. Miami, FL USA

The singles that have been released are very good.  I have read very favorable
reviews.  I'm gonna get it sooner or later.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Subject: Re: Dead Leppers!!!
Reply-To: a-feygin@uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:35:44 GMT

davec@Autodesk.COM (Dave Cooper) writes:
} I thought ADRENALIZE was positively their worse album ever. Thank the gods
} I listened to it first before quickly removing from my office (how embarassin
} to be found with that). Yikes.

my roommate bought it the day it came out...   personally i always hated
Dead Lepper, but he loved them.  he played it a couple of times then one 
day the album vanished from his cd rack.  i dont know what happened to it,
but i guess he finally realized how bad it was.  needless to say i was
spared from hearing it again.

of course now he's into rap and r&b...  i dunno what's worse.


-- 
  Alexander Feygin      "This species has amused itself to death"
 a-feygin@uiuc.edu                -- Roger Waters

The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not CCSO
From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: QUEEN
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:55:41 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Hey Queen fans, Do you know what will happen to QUEEN???Since Freddie is
Dead..

Any new news ??????I appreciate your information.. 


-- 
Thank You Very Much  
Joel 
labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: pmeyer@ens-lyon.fr (Philippe Meyer)
Subject: Re: Top 10 favourite albums
Reply-To: pmeyer@ens-lyon.fr
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:42:57 GMT

	My favourite albums are (no order):

- Albert Marcoeur: Album a colorier (75)
- Pink Floyd: The final cut (83)
- Ange: Guet-apens (78)
- Gerard Manset: 2870 (78)
- Jean Guidoni: Crime passionnel (82)
- Frank Zappa: Hot rats (70)
- Leonard Cohen: Songs of love and hate (71)
- Roger Waters: Amused to death (92)
- Ange: La gare de Troyes (83)
- Jacques Brel: J'arrive (69 (or something like that))


Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: tuckera@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher Tucker)
Subject: HELP!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:21:12 GMT

 Hello, I'm new to this newsgroup and would like some help.  I have a 
Shimpaku Juniper and it seems to be continuously half brown/dead.  Could
someone please e-mail me some good directions for proper bonsai care?
Watering, feeding, light, etc.  I must be doing something wrong.
 
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler)
Subject: Going away
Organization: /usr/users/user4/mappler/.organization
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:07:02 GMT

I will be going away from next Wednsday until Sunday....I have a newly
bonsai'd juniper, as some may know from my many posts...:)  I will not
have anyone to care for it when I am away, as I am at college now, and
eveyone will be home for thanksgiving....Is there something I can do
to keep it from dying?  I have heard someone mention putting o plastic
bag, blown up, over the tree....Will this work?  Is there a better
way?  If I do this, do I still leave it in the sun?  

Thank you,
   Matthew Appler
--
Matthew Appler - Unichussetts of Massaversity
mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu

 -You can only be young once, but you can ALWAYS be immature....:)
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Thomas McCabe Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: When to pot a juniper?
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:08:25 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com

In article 19706@aio.jsc.nasa.gov, kell@lark.jsc.nasa.gov (TED KELL) writes:
>My question: I neet to chew up the rootball quite a bit to get the tree
> into its new home, when is the best time?  Mid-winter, Late-winter, early
> spring?

Ted, I think you can do juniper almost anytime, but the best time is November-March
(inclusive).  Our class has done them in Sept, April...even May... 

We avoid June, July, and August.

Good luck!  
(and don't forget to mist the roots with a weak solution of B1 or superthrive)

Tk
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Tk)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: unrelated ...
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:50:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com


Well, I am off to the British Virgin Islands for 10 days on a 45' Irwin sailboat.

I'm writing for three reasons:
	
	1. to rub it in
	2. so that you don't think I abandoned this fine group... I shall return!
	3. only this group will understand my agonizing over a couple of benches full
		of pots and trees while I'm scuba diving in 80+ degree water



May your little trees get more mature, and more beautiful..

Tk
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: beric@sunvcr.canada.sun.com (Beric Maass [Sun Vancouver SPS])
Subject: Glazed Pots
Reply-To: beric@sunvcr.canada.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:44:54 GMT


Does anyone have any experiences they'd like to share regarding glazed pots?  Specifically, will there be a problem if the pot is glazed on the INSIDE??

Thanks -

  --beric

Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: kell@lark.jsc.nasa.gov (TED KELL)
Subject: When to pot a juniper?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: kell@lark.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Flight Center - Clear Lake City, TX, USA
Date: 16 NOV 92 09:03:10    

I have purchased a juniper and wired it up to _my_ idea of what a nice tree
might look like.  There are some undefined areas, but I'll keep working on
it.  My question, I neet to chew up the rootball quite a bit to get the tree
into its new home, when is the best time?  Mid-winter, Late-winter, early
spring?

Ted  kell@lark.jsc.nasa.gov
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Tom Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: just curious
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:01:41 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com


In article IHr@knot.ccs.queensu.ca, dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca (Dale Swanston) writes:
> My question:  What makes a tree a bonsai tree?  

I waited for a few days, hoping someone else would tackle this one... 

Bonsai translated means tree pot (or is it pot tree?)... any way, the first element of what
makes a Bonsai, is a tree in a pot  (or shrub, or.. well, you get the idea). Then to accurately
depict with that specimen, what a tree in nature might look like (especially a mature tree or
trees).  So bonsai, in part, is a tree in a pot that has been trained to look like a mature
tree in a natural setting.  (the above is MHO, and may not be complete, or even correct by
the standards of others)

> I see people posting things like there a bonsais out there growing wild just waiting to be  
> adopted (even in cold old Canada?).  

What are growing wild are "stock" ... specimens that can be "adopted" (called collecting)
and transplanted, trained, and made into a Bonsai.  The larger the specimen, the more
difficult this can be, and the lower the success rate.

Yes, even in cold Canada... specimens are collected from high in the Sierra Mountains, in
Northern Minnesota, and almost anywhere.  Some are better suited for Bonsai than others, and
that is one of the best reasons for getting access to books or knowledgeable people that can
help identify the species in your climate that are best.


> What is it about the growing process that convinces the tree not to end up 10feet tall?  
> Is it the pruning process?   

The pruning is part of it, certainly, as is the limited space they are growing in (small pots),
and the compact soil. Perhaps most contributory is the abbreviated root system.  We prune the
roots back every year or two or three (depending on the tree, it's age, etc)... to grow TALL,
a large root network is necessary.  A small good root system will allow a HEALTHY tree, but not
a tall one.

*Only one guy's opinion...  any corrections, additions, edits, or amendments are welcome and
 appreciated.  


I hope this helps a bit, Dale.
(oh, and don't wait `til you settle down... start today or this weekend... the time passes
anyway, and you might as well have tree getting older and more beautiful while you're 
studying or whatever)

Tk
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai