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From: johnf@scd.hp.com (John Flowers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Foothil hamfest?
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:12:43 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Sorry, 
from my information the Foothil Flea Market is only from April to
September. I remember my friend and I quote "This is only one of
two flea markets I go to. The last one of the year, when people want
to get rid of crap they haven't been able to unload. And the first
one of the year, when people are trying to unload stuff they couldn't
sell all winter."

That was either Steve Muther WF6R or Greg Forrest N6LDJ.

I think that the anticipation is the hope of rain in the "winter"
months.

I can't tell you about other flea markets in the Bay Area, sorry about that
too.

73 de N6NQW(No Queer Women)

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From: feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: W5YI report..
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:14:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct14.195445.5829@ttinews.tti.com> sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (sorgatz) writes:
> ..sez that there is a move afoot to petition the FCC for a change in
>Amateur license structure such that:
>
> There would be only Novice, No-code Tech, and General!  The request has
>not yet been given a docket number, but it seeks to eliminate the 13 & 20
>WPM CW requirements, giving current General and Advanced license holders
>the same privileges as Extras! Current Tech Plus (old Elem 3 Tech) would
>be grandfathered to General, and persons seeking a distinctive skills test
>could take the 13 or 20 WPM CW exams and earn an endorsement of 'CW Expert'
>or 'CW Master' which would NOT give them any additional frequency space.
>

Thanks for nothing.  It wasn't too long ago that there was no incentive
to get an Extra Class license.  Guess what?  Hardly any issued.  Now
this proposer wishes to reinstitute it.

All this has been argued ever since FCC brought in incentive licensing.
Always the guys at the low end whining about why they can't get the
higher privileges, without paying the entry requirements.  I'll 
warrant that the majority of 4 letter calls will favor this and the
majority of 2 letter calls will be against it.  It all depends
upon who has an axe to grind or whose ox is being gored.

OK, I agree that the CW requirement is becoming increasingly 
anachronistic.  But how would you like this?  Keep the present
classes and incentives but make the techical requirements increasingly
higher.  Except for a very few, I'd bet that wouldn't change
very many existing classifications, even if nobody was grandfathered
into place.

> The petitioner has asked for a limit to inputs from the ARRL on the grounds 
>that the League has a vested interest in keeping incentive-licensing, since
>it is more lucrative to sell manuals/training aids for 5 classes of license
>than it would be to sell them for only 3 classes. Interesting point.
>
What baloney!  If the ARRL didn't supply this demand, someone else
would.  

Face it, guys, the FCC will give this one short shrift.

Forrest Gehrke feg@dodger.att.com   k2bt

BTW, I didn't get an Extra Class until the FCC put in the
incentives to get one, even though I could copy code
at 35 WPM.
From: grady@public.BTR.COM ( )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Stolen Equipment Alert
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:13:19 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

Why not a packet server that individuals can
add or query?  That way, no one person need
to be responsible for maintaining the database.

THis works because a few faulty entries don't
invalidate the rest of the good data; when buying
equipment, just run routine packet request like

SP MISSING@K6FOO, etc. with content of the message
a single list of serial numbers.  No need to
restrict to radios, of course.

The server returns an "alert" with any comments
and the call of the person entering the alert if
it finds the serial number on the list.

A packet server would also encourage people who haven't
tried packet another good reason for doing so; dx
spotting and callbook servers have helped in this
respect, too.

two cents de KD6ETH Grady

-- 
Grady Ward  grady@btr.com  Moby Lexicons
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
From: kharstin@MtHolyoke.edu (Ken Harstine)
Subject: Re: Need help with relay driver circuit
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:00:49 GMT

You may already have done this, but a relay driver must contend with the
EMF of the coil when the driver attempts to open the circuit.  There are a
couple of ways to get around this.  One is to put a diode reverse biased
and in parallel with the relay coil.  The other is to place a small capacitor
in parallel with the relay coil.  

When the coil has current going through it energy is stored in the core.  When
the current is broken the energy in the coil must be dispated.  The way most
of the core energy is disapated is by inducing current in the coil.  This
current will flow untill the energy is disapated by some external component.
In this case the transistor.  The voltage will rise to whatever level is
required to induce current.  This can be kilovolts.  The transistor will 
breakdown and allow the current to flow.  Sometimes the transistor will
survive this breakdown, other times it will not.

The use of a reverse biased diode, or capacitor will disapate this energy 
harmlessly at at a low voltage.  The level of the energy is quite low.
From: chuck@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Charles Rissmeyer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Barry Electronics in NYC et al...
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:43:45 GMT
Reply-To: chuck@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Charles Rissmeyer)
Organization: StPaul

I went to Barry's once and tried to buy the Yaesu FT727 bual band HT.  Kitty, or
Twitty, or  Lulu, whatever her name is, went into the back room, pulled a rig
and gave it to me.  Before I handed over the cash though, I decided to take
a look at the rig first.  The box was mint and everything seemed like the
box had never been opened.  But, when I removed the rig and actually looked
at the keypad, it was apparent the rig had been used.  When I protested, she
lead me into the back room and let me pull the one I wanted myself.  That was
a good thing since some of those rigs were slightly out of date, and I was
able to get the newest one. 
 
 If this could've happened in the store, what would they do with mail-order
 sets?
From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CW Recertification
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:12:20 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

>Yeah, right. The only place that the FCC is running out of calls, particularly
>in California is in the Novice/Tech/General group. I believe the last
>2x1 Extra calls have gone, but they have plenty of calls to give out to
>Advanced and Extra, particularly when you consider the rate that these
>licenses are granted versus the Tech range.

?? 

4-land is ahead of 6-land in 2X3's assigned, last i looked.  and just the K's 
alone make up a block of calls about 456K in size...given that there are 
around 600K hams in the entire US, i would doubt that 6-land is "running out" 
of calls - unless every is just playing "call sign lotto" and filing lots of 
"change call sign" requests...(possible civil disobediance project??)

the fourth call district is out of group A (2x1, 1x2) and C (1x3) calls.

of course there are some of the K 2x3s that are reserved but of course once 
these are used then you can proceed to the Nx#xxx... lots of possible calls 
still exist before things even begin to get tight.  I don't know if i would 
want NZ#ZZZ tho....

bill wb9ivr
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DR570 MODS
From: paul.graziani@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Paul Graziani) 
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:13:00 GMT
Reply-To: paul.graziani@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Paul Graziani) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet

I have seen the mods for the Alinco DR-570T dual band vhf/uhf
transceiver .  Obviously the used rig I have bought has had  the
expanded coverage mod performed on it.  I note that the mod supposedly
gives 850-890 MHz receive only coverage but can't seem to get there from
here :-)
Anyone who could help with this ?
73,
Paul Graziani WD5BIV
Paul.Graziani@chaos.lrk.ar.us
From: ron@topaz.bds.com (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Original License or is Copy OK ?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 15:40:57 GMT
Organization: BDS Systems
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: topaz.bds.com

> I thought a copy was ok for upgrading too.

You can attach either the original or a copy to your 610 to send to the
FCC, but you need to show the original (even if you're attaching the copy)
to the VE's.

-Ron
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY))
Subject: Re: Barry Electronics in NYC et al...
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:42:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.123344.16596@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Richard Spanbauer) writes:
>
>	discrimination: to act on the basis of prejudice
>	prejudice: an adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand
>	  	   or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
>
>	At least that is how the dictionary I have defines these terms.


I'd sure like to know what dictionary you're using.... You might be
able to get a refund on defective merchandise.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: abaumhau@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Andrew M Baumhauer (Staff))
Subject: FT411E Mods
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Distribution: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:54:15 GMT


Yes, I'm sure this has been asked may times....  I have tried numerous times
to contact the mods server in the FAQ to no avail.  I already know about the
extended receive you get by holding in the A and B keys while powering on the
unit.  I have heard rumors about a jumper modification and a computer link
to the unit.  I have tried the computer link at 9600,8,n,1 and either the
settings are incorrect, or the data is binary.  Problem is, how does one
decode this data and change it?  Supposedly, modifing the dump and uploading
it will add additional TX and RX across the full range of the PLL.  If anyone
knows of these mods, or others, "I'm all ears" as Ross says.

Also, on this radio, is the PTT line grounded or pulled down through an
external resistor.  I just purchased a BayPac and am unable to make the unit
TX.  Any ideas?

Andrew Baumhauer	(N8VVY)	abaumhau@udecc.engr.udayton.edu
Network Manager, School of Engineering
University of Dayton

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jimh@county.lmt.mn.org (Jim Hassing)
Subject: Spread the word...
Organization: LaserMaster
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 16:15:15 GMT

Hello netters,
I'll probably get flamed for this but here goes...

I am looking for old american or british motorcycles that need restoring, 
the typical farmers barn story, junkyard relics, any old bike that has not 
been fixed up already.  

Why am I asking here?
Well, word of mouth is the best way to find these bikes and I have asked
my friends & family to keep a lookout for me. I figured a computer and
radio network might be another way to locate old bikes.

I am kindly asking;
a) Does anyone know of any?
b) Would someone take time to ask around radio land?

Thank you for reading this and for any information about bikes you may hear
or know about.

Jim Hassing

email to
jimh@county.lmt.mn.org
71221,3201@compuserv.com
From: guest@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: test
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:09:59 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

test
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey)
Subject: Hamfest in Bergen county, NNJ
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: nj
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:58:53 GMT

The BARA hamfest is on October 10th, Saturday, at Fairleigh Dickinson
University, Teaneck, NJ.  Near Route 4 and River Road.  In the parking
lot.  Rain or Shine.  $2 for buyers.  Tests.  Talk in: 146.79 
repeater and 146.52 simplex.  info: K2ZO 201-664-6725, not after 10pm
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ddabay@ruacad.ac.runet.edu (Dave Dabay)
Subject: Re: Barry Electronics in NYC et al...
Organization: Radford University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:15:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.163031.1@desire.wright.edu> achaboty@desire.wright.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.084040.1@matrix.cs.wright.edu>, isoper@matrix.cs.wright.edu writes:

STUFF DELETD
>> 
>> Two were in the Washington D.C. Metro area and one in Central Ohio. In all
>> cases the sales people had an arrogant know-it-all attitude and were slow to 
>> wait on anyone who was not one of the regular good ole' boys or appeared to
>> be there to buy something other than a high dollar piece of equipment. 
>> 


One store in the "metro" dc area that has been superb is the Maryland 
Radio Center in Laurel, Maryland. They all are very capable and
knowledgable in almost all facets of Ham Radio.  They were very
patient with me getting Novice, then tech, then General, and they even
offer their facility to a local club for testing (where I got my advanced)

If you have a problem with any thing they do/say just ask for Jerry
(he's the owner, but is almost always there)

They WILL take care of you...

dave

-- 
Dave Dabay   Telecommunications Network Supervisor   703-831-5482    KD3PC	
Radford University Computer Services	Internet: ddabay@ruacad.ac.runet.edu
From: ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare - KA1CV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: AARC
Date: 10 Oct 92 09:29:40 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, lancelot@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:

>How do I find out more about the AARC, as an alternative to the
>reactionary ARRL (American Retired Radiotelegraphers' League?)

Well, we have been called many things, but this is the first time I have
been called a reactionary since my wild days in 1968! :-). Most people
who flame us accuse us of being too conservative. Thanks for the differing
point of view. :-).

A personal opionion from ARRL HQ, 73, Ed.


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Newington, CT  06111            There is no limit to what you can 
(203) 666-1541 - voice          accomplish if you don't care who
ARRL Laboratory Supervisor      gets the credit. - Harry S Truman
RFI, xmtr and rcvr testing  
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: seanp@undr.org (Sean Petty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: How to get a repeater allocation?
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:27:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: undr.T1TPsB1w165w
Reply-To: Sean Petty <undr!seanp@gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM>
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Underground - Pennsylvania



        Well, after much input from many people on the net, and in my
        area, myself and a number of my amateur friends have made the
        committment to construct a repeater (Both financially, and in
        our minds).  It has come down to this point where I must once
        again call on the wisdom of the net.

        We have ammassed the major points of the repeater:  the
        equipment, the site, etc. .  I have but one question:

        How/who do we go about contacting to have a frequency allocated
        to us in the area?  I realize that there are committees and such
        that coordinate these systems, but we are at a loss to find
        there location..

        Could someone help?

        Sean

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ICBMnet: 39'58'12"N 75'84'26"W       seanp@undr.org
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: kingpin@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Joe Smooth)
Subject: WANTED: Icom 2SRA and accessories!!!
Organization: /home/fsg/kingpin/.organization
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:58:16 GMT

I am looking for a used but EXCELLENT condition Icom 2SRA hopefully with accessories, as well.. If you have one to sell, or know of someone who is selling
one, please reply.. Thanks!!
From: Hugh_E._Wells.El_Segundo@xerox.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Smoking by Equipment Vendors
Date: 13 Oct 1992 07:48:18 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

>Haven't you noticed all the ads in QST, Nuts & Volts, that offer equipment
>for sale with the notation "Used only by non-smoker?"  The reason is that
>equipment which has been smoked around is simply not as valuable and >that
which hasn't.

>If I ordered a rig via mail order, new, and it arrived reeking of smoke, I
>wouldn't even open the box.  Haven't you ever heard the term "Smoke >damage?
"Certainly no one has heard of "Smoke Enhanced."

This is a clear example of the unit not being functional after the smoke has
been let out.  In other words, to keep the unit functional, keep the box
closed!

Hugh,   W6WTU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin)
Subject: Re: Barry Electronics in NYC et al...
Reply-To: night@acm.rpi.edu
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:19:54 GMT

In <1992Oct12.134903.5586@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Richard Spanbauer) writes:

>	How much can one reasonably expect customer preferences to define
>	personal behaviour on the part of the owner?  It seems to me that
>	one can reasonably expect quality of service and other business
>	related concerns of the owners, but it is entirely unreasonable
>	to indirectly define their personal behaviour.  This might be more
>	clear to you if the issue wasn't smoking (given its recent 
>	unpopularity) in the store, ie substitute age, ethnicity, race, etc
>	for familiar reasons we all agree are incorrect when used to
>	differentiate.  Discrimination is wrong, whatever the reason given.

This isn't discrimination.  Age, sex, ethnicity are things a person can't
change.  That's why decisions based on those factors are called discrimination.
Smoking is something a person can control.  It falls in a similar category
to the person's attitude towards his customers.

You wouldn't want to do business with someone who was rude or arrogant, would
you?  Well, I consider smoking a form of rudeness.  That person obviously
has little concern for how his actions affect other people.  Now maybe you
don't find the smoke bothersome, but I (and many other people) do, and I 
personally would rather hold my breath than breathe that crap in.
-- 
Trip Martin
night@acm.rpi.edu
--
Trip Martin
night@acm.rpi.edu
From: PLAWS@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU (Peter Laws N5UWY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Should we CENSOR these users?
Date: 14 Oct 1992 18:45:26 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Re:    Bruce@Pixar.com


Would you please show me a reference that gives you the right to cancel other
net.people's postings?  How can we be expected to have a free flow of ideas
if the likes of you are going to censor the net????

Peter Laws              |"The '90s are gonna make the '60s|   pcl@engr.uark.edu
n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| look like the '50s"--D. Hopper  |plaws@uafsysb.bitnet
From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Plans to build transceivers.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 20:58:15 CDT
Reply-To: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok

stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB) writes:

> gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
> 
> > In article <uuVDsB2w164w@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org> stevej@pillock.moron.v
> > >gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
> > >
> > >> In article <91913@netnews.upenn.edu> yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway 
> > >> >
> > >> >I would like to build a rig which good to great RF performance.  I
> > >> >have very little interest in memories and all the latest bells and
> > >> >whistles.
> > >> 
> > >> Well first you find a pair of 6146s.......
> > >
> > >...then you build a matching network....
> > 
> > ....and a 6CL6 driver stage....
> 
> ....then you build an analog VFO....

How do you keep it from drifting?


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UUCP: ...!rwsys!ricksys!rick,   {backbones}!ricksys.lonestar.org!rick
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap,sci.electronics
From: thompson@cactus.org (Charles Thompson)
Subject: Need LS7031 Counter Chip
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: LS7031 Freq counter chip
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:03:02 GMT


The counter chip in my freq counter has died.  It is a
40 pin package labelled LS7031 (made by LSI logic??).

Anybody know about this family of counter chips?  IT is
made to drive multiplexed 7-segment displays.

Any clues or info greatly appreciated!


Thanks,
Charlie Thompson
work email: ct@crystal-semi
home email: thompson@cactus.org (just hit 'r')
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: High Gain Ant for mobile
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:17:19 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <199210122045.AA03482@tilde.csc.ti.com> dube@cpdvax.CSc.ti.COM writes:
>Brad NP4AI writes:
>>You might want to look into either the Comet or Diamond mobile antennas.
>They're a bit pricey, but they have Gobs-o-gain...
>
>Well, how much gain is "Gobs-o-gain"?  Is it more than my Decibel Products
>5/8 wave roof-mounted vertical?   More than a dipole in free-space? :)

I'm going to make like QST and not publish any db figures. Just let me
say that I used to be a confirmed Larsen user, but now I use Comet antennas.
Better performance in a smaller package. Amazing really that their little
cellular lookalike dual bander outperforms the bigger Larsen dual bander on 
the same mount.

My repeater now uses a Comet antenna instead of a DB Products clone, and
grade A coverage has improved by 15-20 miles. I took one apart to see what 
the magic was, but couldn't find any. It's just a bunch of 1/2 wave sections 
close stacked together in a fiberglass tube, but it sure works.  I *think* 
it may have some needed electrical beam tilt, the repeater is 970 feet above
ground, but don't have a range to confirm that precisely. I do know it has 
survived direct lightning hits and 70 MPH winds in the two years it's been up.

I have a 2x4Max at the base station, and it has also been a sterling
performer. It's better than the Diamonds, Isopoles, and Ringos that were
tried before, it's even better than a G7. I've only heard of one complaint.
A friend got a Japanese market model 2m Comet on the grey market and it 
wouldn't tune above 147 Mhz. The $15 he saved turned out not to be a savings 
at all.

Gary KE4ZV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc