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From: CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: bringing rental car to mexico
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:13:06 PST

In article <BxxI9n.n1q@nic.umass.edu>,
danco@titan.ucc.umass.edu (DANIEL F COHEN) writes:

>I seem to remember from my border-hopping days that there were exactly two
>companies in San Diego that specialized in renting cars for use in Mexico.
>
>Among other things, Mexico had (and probably still has) a law requiring all
>cars to have insurance with a Mexican company. Cars with US plates and no
>windshield sticker from a Mexican insurer used to be stopped routinely in
>Tijuana and Encinada.  Hertz et al don't really want to mess with this sort
>of thing.
>
>Anyone in the SD area know the names of the companies that rent for Mexican
>use?

I think there is only one company now. Its called Juan something-or-
other insurance company?
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: pbray@sloth.Reed.Edu (Peter Bray)
Subject: Favorite part of los angeles
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:20:48 GMT



I go to school in portland and miss los angeles terribly (where i am from)

where is your favorite place in L.A.?
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Community College Fees for Spring
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:16:23 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <ostubble.722201118@uclagsm>, ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblefield III) writes:
>Beginning in Spring, the LA Community Colleges (West, Southwest, City,
>East LA, Valley, Pierce, Mission, Trade Tech and Harbor) will begin 
>charging a mandatory $7.50 health insurance fee.  The flyer that I saw
>stated that waiving this fee would only be based on finanacial need, and
>no mention was made about your having other coverage.  This fee is
>already in effect at El Camino and Santa Monica (I think), and my friends
>that go there have said they had to pay it even though the had other
>coverage.

There's usually a good reason for such a mandatory fee:  Low group rates are
frequently available, but ONLY IF EVERYONE IN THE GROUP ELIGIBLE FOR COVERAGE
subscribes to the policy.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: Northern California
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:51:36 GMT

  Paul Mason writes:
>Let's have more bay area and northern coast stories.

     My favorite spot in N. California is the State Park in my hometown of 
Benicia. To me, nothing beats walking through the marshes on a cool summer 
morning, feeling the breeze off Southampton Bay and smelling the aroma of the 
tules. It's peaceful, solitary, and, in its own way, beautiful. I miss it.

                            A soon-to-return California refugee,

                                        Steve
///
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: relocation
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:48:28 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov16.144700.4316@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>In the referenced article, steiny@steiny.com (Don Steiny) writes:
>>mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>>
>
>
>>	OK Chris, I won't ignore you.    Now, don't get me wrong, I never
>>voted for a Republican in my life and I am not defending Bush.   However,
>>I think that calling him a facist is ignorant.   
>>
>
>Well, pusuing policies that have dumped thousands of people
>out of work (as Bush has done) isn't exactly humanitarian, is it?

The problem here appears to be that Burdorf uses "fascist" as a general-purpose
pejorative.  He is, indeed, apparently ignorant, of the actual definition of
the word, if nothing else:
	Fascism:  a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts
		  nation and often race aboce the individual and that stands
		  for a centralized autocratic government headed by a
		  dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation,
		  and forcible suppression of opposition.
Now, I don't recall seeing any attempts as severe economic regimentation under
Bush, and the social regimentation he favored struck me as being far short of
that of a fascist government.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Mike Judson)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Favorite part of los angeles
Date: 21 Nov 92 02:10:57 GMT
Reply-To: judson@watserv.ucr.edu

In article <92325.144055JA6769A@auvm.american.edu> JA6769A@auvm.american.edu  
(Juan T. Avecilla) writes:
> My favorite place in the LA area which I miss has got to be any In and Out
> Hamburger drive thru! I don't know about you, but here in DC, nothing comes
> close to their double-double with grilled onions.

Oh yes, I must whole heartedly agree with you.  I love In and Out.  I live
in the Bay Area and go to school in So. Cal., but there is nothing like
In and Out in the Bay area. :(

--
"It takes a big man to cry.
but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man."
				Jack Handy


judson@watserv.ucr.edu
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Subject: Re: Favorite part of los angeles
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:12:50 GMT


Mrs. Gooches, any location.

And any road to the North.
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
From: jerry@marin.uucp (Jerry C. Hudgins)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Northern California
Date: 24 Nov 92 05:39:29 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Node
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <24073@galaxy.ucr.edu> judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Mike Judson) writes:
> 
> I live in Marin County (go to school in Southern California) and I must
> say, in a biased opinion, that I have seen nothing in Southern California
> which can compare to the entire Mount Tamalpais region.  Phoenix Lake,
> Lake Lagunitas, and the other lakes create an environment which is so
> enjoyable and peaceful.  Having gone to high school at Marin Academy and
> having run around the lakes for cross country practice, I can say that
> there is no better place to take a stroll, or a run than at Mt. Tam.

As another unhappy refugee from Marin, I couldn't agree more.

-- 
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From: carriem@bu.edu (Caroline Manion)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: CSU - CAL POLY, SAN LUIS OBISPO
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:42:19 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I grew up in California and can tell you that Cal Poly San Luis is one
of the best technical schools around. A degree from them is not taken
lightly at all. I'm at Boston University because I couldn't get into
Cal Poly.
                                     Carrie M.
From: 9111123@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Bloody English Weather???(You have it easy)
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:48:39 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

In article <1992Nov12.092603.10093@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, adavies@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Anthony Davies) writes:
> In article <sh.chen.47.721336707@fs3.mbs.ac.uk>, sh.chen@fs3.mbs.ac.uk (Sherman Chen) writes:
>> In article <Bx8xHo.M2J@newcastle.ac.uk> Benjamin.Dobson@newcastle.ac.uk (Ben Dobson) writes:
>>>Its alright for some.  Here am i in the middle of a typical day in North
>>>Eastern England (Newcastle - to be exact) and its raining, its windy and they
>>>say it hasn't even got cold yet (50 ish).   The sea is cold (40 ish) and dirty,
>>>only the real airheads go surfing.
>>>So tell me please whats the temp doing in Southern Cal. and has Sacremento
>>>decided to go it alone ( only jesting).
>> 
>>>Well I'm off to become an ice block
>> 
>>>Ben
>>>+------------------------------------------------+
>>>e-mail : Benjamin.Dobson@newcastle.ac.uk
>> 
>> The same goes for here in Manchester, England.
>> 
>> Sherman Chen
>> email:sh.chen@fs3.mbs.ac.uk
>>       sh.chen%uk.ac.mbs.fs3@cns.umist.ac.uk
> 
> And it's *specially* cold in Oxford today!
> 
> Anthony.
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> 
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 Hey it`s no torpic here in limerick (50f you have it easy 45- here and wet)
but there are people still wind surfing.

   Pat

********************************************************************************
* Pat Mathews        *"Four things greater than all things are,                *
*  9111123@ul.ie     *  Women and horses and power and War"                    *
*(I can not mail out)*   Rudyar Kipling(maker of exceedingly good cakes)       *
* I would be greatly susprised if anyone shared my views:disclaimer            *
********************************************************************************
  

 Also I have no connections with any paramilitary,military,civilian or political
organisations that infringe on the defence of the state act 1939(?) or any 
 subsequent laws relating to the posession of firearms,explosives,pyrotechnics,
or membership of a proscribed organisation, nor do I wish  to at this time,or at
 any time in the forseeable future,nor do I wish to infrige any law which would
result in the destablising of the state,death,injury,or maiming of another,or in
 the damage or destruction of another person`s,company`s,or state`s properties.

                   **SO DONT BOTHER ME ABOUT ANY OF THESE**
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: relocation
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:32:51 GMT
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov19.115307.1651@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>>	I do not believe you.  Please tell me where I can find one so I
>>can see a political spectrum. 
>>
>
>Take an introduction to political science class.

Then take the advanced course and you'll learn that the "political spectrum"
they talked about in the intro course doesn't exist.  If you don't want to take
a course, read _The_American_Voter_ by Converse, et. al. in lieu of the intro
course, and _The_New_American_Voter_ to see why Converse's analysis was flawed.

>Yeah well Marx has pretty much been proven to be out of touch
>with reality these days what with the east-bloc in a gross economic
>state as a result of pursuing marxism.

Perhaps while you're taking the advanced poli sci course, you could manage to
squeeze in a history course as sell.  Marx was NOT a marxist.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho)
Subject: Tommy's
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:13:21 GMT


  There is a Tommy's in Eagle Rock. Always been a popular place for the
local high school and college students, but as for myself I cannot
stomach the stuff.  One of my friends told me it's good for late nights
studying because after you eat a chili burger, you can't sleep.  It's
just sitting there in your belly.
  Oh well, we all choose our own poisons.
                                              --ac
From: dt89csc@brunel.ac.uk (C S Codrington)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Looking for postgraduate courses.
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:44:04 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Hi, there.

My name is Colin Codrington. I am a final year student at
Brunel University. I am studying for a honours degree in
Industrial Design. 

I am currently in my final year and looking for a postgraduate
course that fits in with industrial design.

I am quite interested in a research course at the moment. Well..
it doesn't have to be directly linked to industrial design as
long as I get to use my intelligence and creativity.

So how about it have you got that all important course, or do you
know of one. If so please don't hesitate to E-mail me on.......... 

E-mail dt89csc@brunel.ac.uk

A curriculum vitae (resume) can be arranged.

Well thanks for reading me.

Colin.
From: steiny@steiny.com (Don Steiny)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: relocation
Date: 22 Nov 92 08:52:21 GMT
Organization: Don Steiny Software

mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm) writes:

>Then all this discussion, & heavy-weyt philosophical firepower
>brot to bear on it, is nothing more than "Yes it is -- No it ain't".
>You admit yourself that categories "can be" useful & you're quite
>willing to use them yourself -- "trained pigeons" -- but you
>don't seem to like it too much when someone else uses them,
>who happens to oppose your political views.

	No way!   It is not against my political views to call Bush a
fascist.   It is against my use of language views.   It seems to me like
what would be typically called "knee jerk" and it is very much the same
as a trained pigeon.  So what if he is anyway, since he does not do
any of the things fascists normally do, what good is it for me to know
that no matter what my political orientation?

	An analogy is useful insofar as it allows us to make predictions.
It is pretty easy for me to guess what your response would be to the 
comment "Dan Quayle really had a lot on the ball."    So an anlogy to
a trained pigeon is not too bad.   Trained pigeons do not have a lot of
variation in their behavior.    However, from what I know of fascists,
I have not seen Bush exhibit the actions that would make him analogous
to Musollini.  

-don
-- 
Don Steiny
Don Steiny Software
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
(408) 425-0382
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: murray_t@wizard.colorado.edu
Subject: RE: relocation
Organization: UMS
Date: 5 NOV 92 15:45:30 MST

On the subject of relocation - why are so many Californians moving to
Colorado?  The job market stinks, housing is expensive, it snows all the
time, the brown cloud is getting browner...etc.  I suggest Washington or
Oregon, or maybe Texas.  Phoenix is nice too.  If the influx doesn't stop
soon, Californians will be ranked just above Texans in popularity here.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:40:55 EST
From: Juan T. Avecilla <JA6769A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Favorite part of los angeles

My favorite place in the LA area which I miss has got to be any In and Out
Hamburger drive thru! I don't know about you, but here in DC, nothing comes
close to their double-double with grilled onions.
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com  (Jeff Heilner)
Subject: Re: Term Limits, NOT (was Re: relocation)
Organization: SPS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:44:59 GMT

In article <23887@galaxy.ucr.edu> judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)  
writes:
> I voted 'No' on the term limits initiative.  As
> someone said earlier, if the people want to vote into office a person 6,  
> 7, 8, or how ever many times that they want, then they should be allowed  
> to do so.  I would agree with the term limits for Presidents because 
> that is giving one person too much power if he is elected more than 
> twice.  Even if the people want it (as in with FDR's case), it still
> should not be allowed because the country, the constitution, was founded  
> on the grounds of a non-monarchical rule.  However, for Senators and 
> Representatives, I see nothing wrong with unlimited terms because they
> are not inherently vested anywhere near as much power as the President.
 

Without loss of generality, let's substitute legislator for Senator,  
executive for President, and bring this argument a little closer to home. 

Through the gerrymandering of congressional districts, Willie Brown has  
created a legislative "monarchy" of his own, and has become the "poster  
child" for the PRO-Term Limits movement. 

Through a vast network of political connections created during countless  
terms in office, Mr. Brown (who had created a "Speaker-for-life" position  
for himself before the people took it away) has built more power for  
himself than any 2-term governor could ever hope to have.

Our founding fathers did not intend for politics to be a career. It was  
meant to be a place where those who enjoyed and benefited from the  
freedoms and liberties of this country could serve the public for a  
LIMITED time, and then return to their private life.

Term limits preserves this idea. 

I have doubts about the thought that term limits would weaken a state's  
representation.  However, if this is a concern, several have proposed the  
perfect solution: Amend the constitution to limit the terms of all states'  
congressmen/women. All states would then be on equal footing. 


- jeff



--
**************************************************************************
Jeff Heilner                      Motorola - Semiconductor Products Sector 
Software Engineer                 Network Support and Development
jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com (NeXT)   Tempe, Arizona USA
From: mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Term Limits, NOT (was Re: relocation)
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:07:15 GMT
Reply-To: mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
Organization: N.I.C.E.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.82

carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
#>>I too voted againt term limits cause  it takes time for a new sentor
#>>(ie Diane and Barbara ) to get  more "power" than 2 years, althought

#>It might come as a surprise to you that Sentors serve six-year terms.

The Nov 1994 ballot is going to come as a surprise to *you*, Carl.
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: Favorite Places in L.A.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:37:45 GMT

     My favorite place in L.A. has always been the "Thank You for Visiting" 
sign on I-5 that I see as I drive out of town. Once the hacking coughs subside,
I'm a happy man! :-)

                                      Steve
                                      (Bay Area native)
///
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: bringing rental car to mexico
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:01:55 PST

In article <kh27362@pro-nsdapple.cts.com>,
kenb@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Ken Boozer) writes:

>I've also heard that it's unwise not to obtain Mexican insurance.  But when
>I went down to Tijuana, it was with a friend who shrugged off the
>suggestion, and said, " Don't worry about it."
>
>Since he was Hispanic and driving HIS car, I didn't worry, and there were
>no problems.  NOTE: I'm not recommending this, just adding my experience to
>your data collection.
>
>As far as rental rates, I'm not aware of any particular company having
>overall "best rates"--I think it's a matter of determining what discounts
>you can apply (AAA, Discover Card, airline fly-drive package, memberships,
>etc.) and what coupons or specials you can find.  I've rarely rented from
>the same company twice in succession.

From all my experinences in Mexico buy the insurance. Even if you are
Mexican/speak Spanish. If you get into an accident, even with another
American and the police show up and you don't have insurance and you
don't want to pay BIG bribes you WILL end up in jail (you will if
you don't know how to offer a bribe or if you call it a bribe OR
if the first police on the scene are Federales). Some places just south
of Mexicali and Taxco some of the locals will try and hit you if they
see California plates but this seems to be happening less and less (in
say the past 10 years). But if you are going more than 20 miles south
of the border and spending more that just the day spend the money, its
worth it.
     --Ed
Newsgroups: alt.california
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	id <kh27362@pro-nsdapple.cts.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 92 07: 36 PST
From: kenb@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Ken Boozer)
Subject: Re: bringing rental car to mexico
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:34:14 PST

I've also heard that it's unwise not to obtain Mexican insurance.  But when
I went down to Tijuana, it was with a friend who shrugged off the
suggestion, and said, " Don't worry about it."

Since he was Hispanic and driving HIS car, I didn't worry, and there were
no problems.  NOTE: I'm not recommending this, just adding my experience to
your data collection.

As far as rental rates, I'm not aware of any particular company having
overall "best rates"--I think it's a matter of determining what discounts
you can apply (AAA, Discover Card, airline fly-drive package, memberships,
etc.) and what coupons or specials you can find.  I've rarely rented from
the same company twice in succession.