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Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Engine Braking - what causes it?
From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:33:13 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

In article <1992Apr6.210956.19514@qualcomm.com>, ganapath@tahoe.qualcomm.com (Chinnappa Ganapathy) writes:
|> What causes engine braking?  I'm sure there are a number of factors
|> including friction and de-compression.  What else?  Also, to what extent
|> do the different factors affect engine braking?  e.g. Will better
|> lubrication decrease engine braking?  How much?
|> 
|> 

The mechanics of engine braking, simplified:

When the throttle plate is open you have a path from the combustion chamber to the
outside atmosphere, through the intake system.  When you close the throttle, that
path is closed off.  On the intake stroke, the engine tries to take a breath and finds
that there's not a whole lot of air below the closed throttle.  So, trying to pull
a vaccuum is what actually slows you down under engine vaccuum.

Note that this is only valid for gasoline engines.  A diesel engine has no braking
capability to speak of since it has no throttle plate in the intake.  Engine speed
is regulated by fuel injection only.  To get engine braking from a diesel you must
install a brake on the exhaust side, which can be very effective.  A semi tractor
with a "Jake" brake can stop in considerably less distance than an identical tractor
without the Jake brake.


-- 
Alan Hepburn           "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain
National Semiconductor       a little temporary safety deserve neither
Santa Clara, Ca              liberty nor safety."
alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Benjamin Franklin
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 00:43:25 EDT
From: Naz Reyes <NAZ@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: New 1993 Mazda MX-6

In article <1992Apr14.194701.1747@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, rra21220@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Rae R. Aranas) says:
>
>I just saw the new mx-6 here in my
>apartment complex...It is a world
>apart from the previous model...
>It looks quite.....Lexusish Coupish....
>Anyway, has anyone read about the specs for
>the new mx6?  The car I saw had a little
>emblem on the rear saying V6 engine.....
>Thanks for the info.
>

Ok, here are some specs and info I gathered according to Road & Track's
review.

Base price, base model......................$13,265
Country of origin...........................Japan, U.S.A.
Wheelbase...................................99.0 in.
Length......................................177 in.
Width.......................................66.5 in.
Height......................................53.5 in.
Luggage capacity............................15.4 cu. ft.
Curb weight.................................2730 lbs.
Fuel economy (EPA):
   City.....................................24 mpg.
   Highway..................................31 mpg.
Engine......................................110-bhp sohc inline-4
   (optional MX-6 GT).......................145-bhp turbo sohc 12V
Tires.......................................185/75R-14

First, the 1992 version is almost the same as the previous year's one.
Before 1992 is over, though, a thoroughly updated 1993 version will be
out.

There are 4 versions of th MX-6.  The base-model DX and mid-level
LX are both equipped with Mazda's 110-bhp inline-4.  According to
Road & Track, this one is the quietest and smoothest of the current
Mazda-4s.

For car enthusiasts, there is the MX-6 GT which comes with a 145 hp
12-V inline-4.  This one can go from 0-60 in just over 8 seconds.

There is also an optional 4-wheel steering if you prefer one.

The MX-6 GT includes 4-wheel disc brakes (ABS optional) speed-sensitive
power-assisted steering and Auto Adjusting Suspension, which adjusts shock
valving.

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From: jung@base.bellcore.com (Eric Jung)
Subject: Re: basic instinct
Reply-To: jung@base.bellcore.com (Eric Jung)
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 21:32:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.065044.9659@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
   tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
 [...]
|> p.s. did they really crash a lotus esprit?  i'm sure they didn't, but
|> it looked pretty damn real, right down to the gatorbacks.

Did anybody besides me notice the license plate on the black Lotus?  It
seemed to change by one digit for the crack-em-up scene.  I'm not entirely
positive, but early on in the flick, it was 2???123.  Before it crashed
the plate was 2???124.  I thought it was intentional at first and that we'd
see that it was a different person trying to run Mr. Douglas down.

-- 
Eric C. Jung 			Bellcore
(908) 699-4684			6 Corporate Place PYA-1D-142
jung@base.bellcore.com		Piscataway, NJ  08854
From: 17158ABR@MSU
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Wasted on Women? GOTCHA!
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:12:06 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University




------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: PAISLEY@auvm.american.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Wasted on Women? GOTCHA!
Date: 3 Apr 92 21:00:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: auvm.92094.160032PAISLEY
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

<Those of you who flamed my "flame" of the original post on this thread must
<be really conceited.  You immediately thought that although you caught the
<humor in the original post, nobody else would.  Well, I caught it too, and
<(in the spirit of April Fools' Day) decided to play along and posted a
<"flame".  Didn't any of you think twice before flaming flame-bait to flame-
<bait on APRIL FOOLS' DAY?
<I'm actaully getting quite a laugh out of this whole thing.

Cheers,
Gordon.

Don't give up your day job:)

As for those of you who agreed with any of the substantive points of my
"flame", I think that at least some of them do stand on their own merits,
even outside the context of the joke. (e.g. applying makeup while driving)

In all seriousness, if the "driver" in my article did exist (and I have to
agree that "it" probably does), what would you rather have this person drive
(assuming that there was no way, short of putting a pin to "its" head, to get
this person off the road)? Something that handles well (and thus might increase
"its" odds of getting out of a self-inflicted sticky situation, or something
that drives like a tank?

Granted, some of the performance characteristics
of a sophisticated car could increase "its" odds of getting into a sticky
situation, but I still wouldn't want "it" to drive a "tank".

Flames welcome,
Andrea
From: dy@dancer.uucp (24123-hall)
Subject: Beretta vs Saturn SL2
Reply-To: dy@dancer.UUCP ()
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 20:33:13 GMT
Summary: Which do you prefer? 

Does anybody have anything good to say about the Chevy Beretta?

The '92 GT model includes standard ABS and driver's side airbag.  It
can be had with A/C and 3.1L V6 for about $14K.  This month's Consumer
Reports says owner satisfaction and frequency of repair figures are
lousy, though.  

About the same money could fetch a Saturn SL2 with ABS, A/C, and airbag.
It has a smaller engine and less interior room.  I don't like the
motorized seat-belts, $200 shop manual, and lack of cruise control (on
airbag equiped model.)  BUT, the car gets great reviews in the popular
press and would cost me about $275 per year less than the Beretta to
insure.

Can anyone offer any reasoned advice for deciding between the two?

-Doug
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: cmfb@cray.com (Chris Bone)
Subject: Old Auto Brochures
Organization: Cray Research Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:48:02 CDT

Is there a company that sells old (well, mid 1980's) Auto Brochures, the
kind that dealers give out letting you know how wonderfull there marque is
and listing all the wonderfull extra's that are available? In particular I
am looking for brochures on 1987/8 Saabs.
Regards,
-- 
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From: david@xlnt.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: American engines oversized,underpowered ?
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:44:50 GMT
Organization: XLNT Designs, Inc (XDI)

American cars tend to go for lower horsepower but higher torque than
foreign cars.  This strategy is probably good for the American market
where the speed limits are much lower than those of Europe.

As far as engine size goes, American engines do tend to be larger and heavier.
-- 
David Johnson
XLNT Designs, Inc. (XDI)
david@xlnt.com
the hapa haole
(or more precisely the hakka haole)
(or even more precisely, the hapa hakka hapa haole, or h^4)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Franz oil filters?
From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:17:58 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

In article <ku3lj3INN45e@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, wordy@bikelab.Corp.Sun.COM (Steven K. Roberts) writes:
|> 
|> Hi....
|>   I just bought a 1989 Ford F-350 dually extended cab pickup with
|> International 7.3-liter Diesel engine.  This is for heavy-duty,
|> year-round towing of a Wells Cargo trailer.  It currently has 
|> 44,000 miles on it.
|>   My question is this:  a friend who is much more diesel-literate
|> than I has suggested installation of a Franz oil filter, which 
|> apparently is like a roll of toilet paper attached near the oil
|> pressure sender.  The claim is that these work so effectively that
|> you really never have to change oil (just filters).  The Franz
|> (sorry if wrong spelling) guy says that my 20-quart system will
|> require two of them, translating into about $320 including installation.
|>   I don't mind doing this if it is indeed a good investment, but
|> I have no way of judging this.  I'm looking for comments....
|> I hit the road in 7 days, full-time, so time is tight.  Thanks!
|>    

First, congratulations on your wise choice of vehicle!  Others (hi Walt!) will
say you should have bought the Dodge/Cummins combo but it's in short supply on
the used market, especially in the extended cab model, and non-existent in the
crew cab.

Next;  unless you have a humongous oil cooler or some huge aftermarket oil pan
on the engine you only use 10 quarts, not 20.  I've got the 1990 model and I
don't think they changed it between 1989 and 1990.

Finally; about the Frantz filter.  There are those who swear by it and those who
swear at it.  Personally, I don't like the idea of keeping oil in an engine,
especially a diesel engine, for long periods of time.  There are many things that
happen to the oil as it runs through the engine, including picking up contaminants,
losing viscosity, breaking down additives, and last but certainly not least, the
actual molecules tend to break down.  An effective filtering system can eliminate
the contaminants, adding additives can replenish them and increase viscosity, but
how do you reassemble the long molecule chains that fresh oil contains?  I've
known people who have used the Frantz system in gas engines and have been happy with
it.  I've also known people who've lost engines after taking the system off.

In your diesel engine, I would not trust anything other than regular (every 2500
miles) oil AND filter changes, using only the highest grade oil available (SG/CE
ASI rating, currently).  The engine will last close to forever with care.


-- 
Alan Hepburn           "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain
National Semiconductor       a little temporary safety deserve neither
Santa Clara, Ca              liberty nor safety."
alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Benjamin Franklin
From: jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Fabulous New RX7
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:18:56 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs

In article <1992Apr07.225838.2841@engr.washington.edu>, eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (Brutus Thornapple) writes:
|> 
|> What really impressed me with the new RX-7 is that Mazda went to such
|> great lengths to keep the weight down and at the same time managed to
|> avoid using expensive aluminium.  The fact that it costs half of an
|> NSX makes it even more impressive, and its styling is also far more
|> beautiful than the NSX IMO.  The final question is how nimble it will
|> be compared to the mid engined NSX.  The 300ZX may offer performance
|> numbers that are similar, but it is at least 5 to 600 pounds heavier.
|> 
|> If there is a number in cars that really tells a lot, it is number of
|> pounds.  There's only that much fat tires and cubic inches can do to
|> compensate for weight.  A light car that will do 0-60 in 6 seconds and
|> 1g on the skidpad would feel totally different from a heavy car that
|> will do 0-60 in 6 seconds and 1g on the skidpad.  Kudos to Mazda.
|> 
|> 
|> eliot

Whether you like the new RX7 or not you have got to be impressed with
Mazdas approach to building sports cars, while everyone else continues
to add weight to cars Mazda has chosen to reduce weight, they no longer
try to build cars that appeal to the masses. I remember reading somewhere
about Mazda approach to the III generation RX7, they wanted people to either
absolutely love the car or hate it, no indifferent response were allowed.
Although 2700lbs is no lightweight compared to later year sport cars it
is somewhat light compared to todays sports cars, and as a result I went
and slammed a few car doors on the new RX7, very solid feel. It seems Mazda
did not reduce weight in critical crash protected areas. The car does have
a driver side airbag and next year it will have passenger side airbag.

Congrats to Mazda...
-- 
Jeff Nappi
Columbus Bell Labs
jjn@cbjjn.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu (jason reiser)
Subject: Re: Tire fixing help
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:57:25 GMT

kev@osf.org (Kevin Till) writes:
> Hi,
> 	My girlfriend drove my Honda Accord and hit the curb. The wall of a
> front tire was damaged with a hole of about 1/4 inch hole(only the
outside wall). Now the tire is leaking very very slowly. Is there anyway I can fix the tire without replacing it? (it's only six-month old?

From my experience, it is usually the case that sidewall tire damage
is fatal.  I had a tiny hole in the sidewall of a Goodyear GT+4 on my
Eclipse from a piece of glass.  Unfortunately, I had to buy a new
tire.  From what I was told, a plug will not stay in place if inserted
into the sidewall as it does in the tread.  Sorry to dissapoint you.

				- Jason Reiser
 
 
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: pauly@netcom.com (Paul Yoshimune)
Subject: Re: Mazda B2200 pickup - stupid CHECK ENGINE idiot light
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 07:28:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Well, there's a simple little button or switch put in the wiring from the
light on down somewhere, and all you have to do is trace the wiring back to
find it.  On Mazda pickups, I'm not quite sure where they are; on some cars
they are behind the dash, on others, down by the transmission.  In any case,
the light usually indicates that the vehicle should be brought in so the
emissions system can be checked...

-- 
-Paul Yoshimune [pauly@netcom.com]
From: crisar@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl (Anton van Rosmalen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Are all Americans Stupid
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:01:14 GMT
Organization: CRI, Leiden University, the Netherlands.


No all Americans are not stupid, actually i find their
driving style extrmely courteous , as a matter of fact
they are so courteous  its nearly irretating , at intersection
everybody hesitates and it all becomes it bit messy...
Germany is in sharp contrast with this , where everybody obeys rules

I personnaly enjoy driving in France and Italy , people drive fast 
and perhaps a little to aggressive but they certainly drive well.
England , well this is another story , simply horrendous.....
As to other remarks made by the English gentleman about the good
old US of a , if i was an American i would simply ignore them
as i think all members of the rec.autos list should, the man is 
obviously a TWIT.
From: lea00@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Larry Akers)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Electric pump oil remover
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:52:06 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO


    I don't think that this is a new idea.  People who own 
in-board boats have been using these things for years.  There
is no other (easy) way to get the used oil out of the engine
without pulling the engine out of the boat.  That is not what
most boat owners want to do every oil change.  Several friends
of mine with boats have been using these things for many years.
    The costs have gone down quite a bit if you can now buy one
for $19.95 now.  The ones that I have seen are closer to $100.00
than $20.00.  As far as using one to change the oil in my car
goes though, I just don't find crawling under my cars every 
2500 - 3000 miles all that bad.  I like to check out the underside
of my car while I change the oil.  Just to look for other leaks,
damaged wiring, loose parts, etc., etc...
    Please note that this is not an offer to change anyone else's
oil.  I don't like it that much.  I have five vehicles of my own.
That keeps me under them plenty enough to satisfy my need for 
dirt and oil under my finger nails and in my hair.

LA...  LA...  LA...  LA...  LA...  Later,,, Larry Akers...
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: phil@yogi.axion.bt.co.uk (Phil)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: spark plugs
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:00:49 GMT
Reply-To: phil@yogi.axion.bt.co.uk (Phil)
Organization: BTL


i have used NGK for many years, corona 1600s, celica, capri, corolla twincam and so on, without any trouble at all. one set lasted ~15000 miles, still going - i forgot they needed changing at 10000... 
-- 
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phil houseago                   |When you hang up that phone,   
phil@muppet.bt.co.uk            |You cease to exist ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: cmj@horus.cem.msu.EDU (Chris Jenkins|xxxxxx)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: End of Golden Era at Honda
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:56:23 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

From article <1992Apr8.071145.7700@cco.caltech.edu>, by hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker):
> jondu@microsoft.com (Jonathan Dubman) writes:
> 
>>Maybe I should look closer at Saturn.  They modeled
>>their transmission after Honda's when Honda knew what it was doing.
> 
> Too bad Saturn didn't model the engine after Honda's!
> 
Thhhhbbbbbbbppppphhhht!  If you don't like it, don't buy one!

Though I must say that Hondas are the _quietest_ cars I've never heard.
Personally, I think the Saturn's noise level is within acceptable limits.
Yes, it is a buzzy little thing, but what else can one expect from
a four-banger?

---cmj
Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers,talk.politics
Newsgroups: rec.autos

well, I was caught speeding in germany.. I was just mailed the ticket with a
photo of me in my old taurus.. the license plate showed.. I was doing 100 in a
60.. oh, well, I paid the 20 dm..

tracy
From: erodrigu@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Edgar Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Mazda MX-6
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:34:35 GMT
Reply-To: erodrigu@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Edgar Rodriguez)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Annapolis, MD

Has anybody seen the new MX-6? I saw one last friday and in my opinion
is a sharp looking car. It wasn't designed (body) like the Prebile. I
think is going to take customers away from Honda.


			     Edgar(dissapointed Prelude fan)
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 04:08:50 EDT
From: Naz Reyes <NAZ@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Sorry!!! (Was Re: New 1993 Mazda MX-6)
 <92106.004325NAZ@auvm.american.edu>


Oooops, I thought you were talking about the 1992!!!  I think I left
my brain somewhere at home tonite! :)  Excuse me, it's about 4AM
right now.  Again, I'm sorry.

-Naz
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: segallis@su1bc.uucp (greg segallis)
Subject: BMW 325e Oil Service Indicator
Reply-To: segallis@su1bc.UUCP (greg segallis)
Organization: GCSD CAE Harris Corp.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:01:01 GMT


There was an article written in May 1988 Roundel about how to build and
use a reset tool for the BMW 325 service indicator.  I understand it was
basically a switch with banana plugs that mate to the diagnotics connector
in the engine compartment.   I don't know which pins to use or when to
actually jumper the two pins.  Can anyone help?  

Thanks

PS. If the reply address above does not work,
    try segallis@su1bc.ess.harris.com
From: Chuck@clemson.edu (Chuck Heck)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Ultradrive - another one bites the dust
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:38:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clemson University

After three years (almost to the day) and 30,000 miles, I am scheduled to have
the transmission replaced in my '89 Grand Caravan sometime next week.

Just another data point.

Stuck in limp in mode...

Chuck
From: jim@mwhhlaw (James P. Cavanaugh III)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Japan could be skirting $30 billon in U.S. taxes annually
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:24:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Martin_Wade_Hartley_&_Hollingsworth

In article <f9z302BrcelS00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fierro@uts.amdahl.com  
(Doug Fierro) writes:
> > 
>   Well, you must have served as an economic advisor on Bush's cabinet  
:-)
> 
>   I hate to break this to you, but you pay tax on imported goods  
anyway,
> whether the foreign company pays its fair share of taxes or not.   
What
> you pay is called a sales tax; what the international companies are  
not 
> paying is income tax, not sales tax.   And foreign corporations are  
owned
> by, you guessed it, foreigners.  So the people you are referring to  
above
> are not U.S. citizens.  Actually I'm not really sure what you were  
trying
> to say, but to make a long story short, we all pay in the long run  
when
> other people/corporations/etc. don't pay their taxes.
> 
>   Doug
> -
	Doug, what you say is true as far as it goes.  Wa all pay a  
sales tax whenever we buy something, as long as our state of residence  
charges one.  What you are missing is the difference between the  
incidence of a tax and the burdon of a tax.  The incidence of a tax is  
who it is supposedly levied upon.  The tax burdon is on the ones who  
really wind up paying it.
	The incidence of an income tax on a Japaneese Corporation is on  
the Japaneese Corporation.  Theoretically, the burdon of that tax  
passes on to the shareholders of that Japaneese corporation, whoever  
they are and wherever they may be.  But is the management of this  
Japaneese Corporation going to pass the whole burdon of this tax on to  
its shareholders? NOT LIKELY.  Instead, it will raise the prices of its  
products to the extent possible given its competitive situation.   
Because the competition is already paying the tax, the Japaneese  
Corporation will likely pass on the entire amount. Therefore, who pays  
this tax?  You, and me and anyone else who buys the product, in the  
form of higher prices.  (Of course, we will pay the sales tax as well.)
	By the way, I was an econ major in college.  But advisor to  
George Bush?  AAAAAGGGGHHHHH!  I suspect that if I were his advisor, he  
wouldn't listen anyway.  If he did listen, we'd be doing a lot of  
things differently.

Jim Cavanaugh
Newsgroups: rec.autos