From: rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: There are two years left!
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:12:35 GMT
Organization: CERL-EE, Georgia Institue of Technology

In article <1992Sep10.201909.7519@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
.In article <67967@hydra.gatech.EDU> rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts) writes:
.}In article <1992Sep10.132606.22060@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
.}|In article <67893@hydra.gatech.EDU> rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts) writes:
.}|}In article <1992Sep9.164331.15457@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
.}|}-In article <67872@hydra.gatech.EDU> rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts) writes:
.}|}-}In article <1992Sep8.195107.8340@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
.}|}-}|In article <67831@hydra.gatech.EDU> rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts) writes:
.}|}-}|}In article <1992Sep8.172736.1879@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
.}|}-}|}>
.}|}-}|}>Bad news.  The end of the world came and went.  NONE of you are worthy!
.}|}-}|}
.}|}-}|}Regardless of whether anyone of us is worthy or not, we would all know it,
.}|}-}|}as Jesus described in the following passage:
.}|}-}|}...
.}|}-}|}   Mat 24:27   For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even 
.}|}-}|}     in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
.}|}-}|...
.}|}-}|And you MISSED it!!!!
.}|}-}
.}|}-}No.  You didn't read verse 27 very close or so it seems.
.}|}-}
.}|}-}    Mat 24:27   For as lightning that comes from the east IS VISIBLE even in
.}|}-}       the west, SO WILL BE the coming of the Son of Man.
.}|}-}
.}|}-}It will be visible, just as the lightning is.
.}|}-
.}|}-To a blind man, though something is visible it will not be seen.  And there
.}|}-appear to be many blind to THE WAY here - including you, apparently.
.}|}
.}|}You know He made the blind see, don't you?
.}|
.}|Not all of them.
.}
.}I assume you know that during the 1,000 years of peace, which happens
.}at that time, there will be no sickness or pain - I'm sure blindness is
.}covered, aren't you?
.
.That's just part of a false belief.

Again, since you seem to think I am blind, CLEARLY STATE YOUR TRUTH MR. MERITT.

.BTW:  In the peace of the grave after planetary genocide there will be
.none blind either.  Nor breathing...

You must have missed the resurrection part of THE WAY.  There will be life
in immortal, incorruptible bodies, after the end.

.}Much less verse 30 of this passage tells us that all tribes will see..
.
.Maybe they did.  But since they have all left, it would be hard to check.

It does not say all were worth nor all would be taken - in fact, not all
will be taken, it seems.

Let me ask you this question, Mr. Meritt, HOW HOW HOW do you know the
end came, since according to you all that saw it have left?  Obviously,
you lump yourself into the unworthy bunch, since you are still here.

.}|}I've lost you Mr. Meritt - which THE WAY are you telling me I am blind to?
.}|
.}|Pointing has done no good.  You see nothing but the end of the finger.
.}
.}Maybe your pointing is VERY AMBIGUOUS.  You in this discussion assert that
.}the end has come and we missed it, because we aren't worthy - I did even
.}declare someone's worth, but pointed out that the return will be visible.
.}
.}Since it appears I am a little slow/dense to you, could you state your
.}point - I've missed it.
.
.It is in this post.  Try again.

Here are the initial quote you made

      "Bad news.  The end of the world came and went.  NONE of you are worthy!"

and the reply to the verses I quoted

      "And you MISSED it!!!!"

and here is your reply to my counter reply

    "To a blind man, though something is visible it will not be seen.  And there
     appear to be many blind to THE WAY here - including you, apparently."

Which of these is your point.  You are telling me I am blind to something
and I am offering Scriptural responses.  My responses say that the end will
not be secrect, but visible and this is not dependent upon one's worthiness.

.}|}-Food for thought:  Notice how there are many claims made about how clear
.}|}-the "word of god" is, yet there are still those who do not see the same
.}|}
.}|}Scripture tells us that things of the spirit are hidden from those without 
.}|}the spirit.
.}|
.}|And this is from you, so the conclusion would be that you don't have the
.}|spirit.
.}
.}NO this is not from me - I paraphrased it.  It is not directly a reflection
.}on anyone, but it does give light to your question on 'how clear' the word
.}of God is.
.
.Nice disclaimer.  "Just out of my mouth - _I_ didn't mean it"

I didn't disclaim it.  I said it wasn't from me, but I DID REPEAT IT AND I
BELIEVE IT.  Its from the NT, if you don't already know that.

.}|}-thing?  What makes you think that this is not just another example of
.}|}-selective blindness, refusing to see what you don't want to?
.}|}
.}|}Scripture also tells us that people are blinded due to thier own desire
.}|}to believe the lie.
.}|
.}|The lie the "you'r viewpoint is not special"?  Yup, your desire to believe 
.}|that lie seems to have blinded you to much.
.}
.}You didn't point out the thing to which I am blinded.  The Scripture tells
.}us that God sends a delusion to those who refuse to belief the truth and
.}love wickness.  I know my heart is wicked, but thank God I have believed
.}the truth and so have eternal life in Jesus the Christ, the Son of God.
.}Can you say that and/or can you state your belief?
.
.I just did.  YOUR viewpoint isn't special.  See what I meant when I said that
.even when pointed ouit you wouldn't see?

Explain, to we unlearned, the application of "YOUR viewpoint isn't special"
to this discussion.

Sincerely,
Richard Pitts
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