From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
Subject: The Sarfatti Papers 4
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:57:05 GMT


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From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
Subject: Professionalism
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:32:47 GMT


I deliberately did not post The Gladstone Report on this conference as it is
more appropriate to
other conferences since it is more than physics - it is
literature, politics - the Glass Bead Game. McInnes seemed compelled to post
it here. All the historical facts asserted in it are true - including my
weird experience as a kid in 1952 with the metallic voice claiming to be a
computer on a spacecraft from the future. My childhood friend Al Brough of
the New York Police Department Homocide DIvision (Snyder St Station) may
well remember it as he was in my apartment within minutes of that call.
Exactly, what the call was is anybody's guess - if it was not what it
claimed to be then it was some adult messing with a 12 year old's mind - but
the interesting coincidence is how it ties into the Uri Geller caper twenty
years or more later including the Puthoff remote viewing experiments at SRI
including an incident with the late Brendan O Regan, Barbara Honneger (of
October Surprise fame) and the alleged psychic - not Geller, not Pat Price,
his name escapes me for the moment - in which the cold metallic voice
appeared again claiming to be a computer on board a space-craft from the
future- not to mention Andrija Puharich's written accounts of such stuff and
the Jenny and the Nine incidents at Esalen during the visits of the Soviet
Elite before the fall of the old-line Soviet Regime. In the Alice and
Wonderland world of covert intelligence these things may all be connected in
a very meaningful way. But this is not the proper subject matter of this
conference - important and interesting though it might be.

Paul your remark

"Arguing with Jack Sarfatti is a bit like shoveling manure in a barn
full of horses. No matter how much you shovel today there will be just
as much to shovel tomorrow. It is not that Jack is unintelligent or does
not know physics. It is just that he is extremely careless. He seems to
confuse lack of scientific discipline with scientific adventurousness.
They are not the same thing. Scientific adventurousness is impossible
without scientific discipline."

is not calculated to evoke a cool rational response. I will answer you in
detail later - but you are covering up your basic confusion. True one needed
to change relative polarizer settings to see the (cos@)^2/2 correlation
which violated Bell's inequality - but you do not have to do it as a
dynamical process in time. It is enough to do what Aspect dis - switch the
polarizer orientations in a time short compared to flight times of each
photon in pair from source to polarizer-detector to ensure a space-like
interval between both measurements of each photon in same pair. Your delay
corresponding to time it takes one of the photons to move from its polarizer
to its detector is not important. If you looked at my diagram you would see
what I mean - maybe. I still say you are dealing with an illusion. More
later when I read your latest post in detail.
Article 14895 (328 more) in sci.physics:
From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
Subject: re:Professionalism
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:43:31 GMT


Oh yes, I remember the name of the psychic being tested by Brendan O Regan
in Puthoff and Targ's SRI laboratory was Ingo Swann. I think he is referred
to in the book on UFOs OUT THERE by Blum (?) the NY TIMES reporter - the
chapter in
which Ingo remote views Soviet submarines for high level defense officials.

O Regan worked for Astronaut Edgar Mitchell at Noetics Institute which
provided funds to SRI. O Regan asked Swann to remote view the future when
Swann, a trance medium, started to speak in a cold metallic voice repeating
the same sort of stuff I heard as a kid in Brooklyn years earlier in 1952-
the SRI incident was in mid 70's. This particular story was told to me by
Barbara Honneger befoe she went to the Reagan White House with the guy from
Hoover Martin Anderson who was domestic policy advisor. Honneger (Honegger
sp?)
at the time was working for Toy manufacturer Henry Dakin who was funding
Michael Murphy's
work on sports and psi - see his recent book. Both Dakin and Murphy are
active in Gorbachev Foundation USA today at a very high level. It's
interesting that their group also brought Boris Yeltsin to US before he was
elected President of Russia- strange connections indeed! All true - check it
out boys and girls!

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