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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:51:56 PST
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Mary Hopkin

Thanks to the replies of the query
Who sang that song?
I went out and bought the album, _Post Card_
 by Mary Hopkin.
Yup, that's the song, all right.
"Those Were the Days" is a cool tune; a bit dated, but still good.
Three versions on the album:  English, Spanish and (Marco'll
like this) Italian.
The album overall takes one back to the 1968 sound.
McCartney produced the album, and it REALLY shows.
There is bubblegum on here.
From this perspective, one can see
the influence of this and other artists of the time on
Paul's music style ("Honey Pie", "Martha My Dear", "Blackbird", etc.)
Folky, but with horns and such.  The verge of bubblegum...
The Pepper sound gave way to
bubblegum sound for Paul, in 1968.  John went in the other direction and
rediscovered rock and blues.  Of course, there are crossovers
("Julia" and "Helter Skelter"), but on _Abbey Road_, the
sound of John and Paul's styles went on... ("I Want You (She's So Heavy)"
and "Maxwell's Silver Hammer")  ...and carried on through
their solo careers.  McCartney's _Ram_ sounds like a lot of it
could have been on the _White Album_, circa 1968.
But I digress...
Mary Hopkin's album suffers the problem of Paul's thinking: overproduction.
There are songs on there that would have been beautiful without
the extra fluff that Paul designated into the song.
It's great, but it is way over done.
Another problem is the choice of songs.
Paul had full reign over the choice, and he chose a really mixed bag.
Mary has a great voice, but "There's No Business Like Show Business"
is not her style.  She is a folk singer, for God's sakes!
Paul should have let her do her stuff a little bit more.

What became of her, anyways?  Are her other albums any better?

Mike Masuda.
"Those Were the Days" will make a great cover tune as a ska!
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:41:59 CST
From:         Jeff Schoby <S113236@UMRVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Dragnet Soundtrack

Does anyone out there know where I can get a copy (CD, tape, lp, doesn't
matter) of the MCA Soundtrack to the movie "DRAGNET" that came out a few
years back (87?, 88)?  It starred Dan Akroyd and Tom Hanks and was sort of a
spoof on the old tv series.  There's a song by New Edition on the soundtrack
entitled "Helplessly in Love" (or something like that) that I MUST have.
The soundtrack is out of print so I can't order it through a music store.
So if anyone out there has a cd of it and want's to sell it, or knows how I
can order a copy, PLEASE, PLEASE let me know.  I love New Edition and esp.
the song that is on that soundtrack.  Thanx in advance!

Jeff Schoby, (JazzyJ)
email: s113236@umrvma.umr.edu

P.S. Does anyone know when the guys are gonna release another NEW EDITION
album?....or when Johnny Gill, Ralph T., BBD, are gonna release new albums?
From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
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Subject: Re: House and spirituality ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:40:16 GMT
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ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer) writes:

>In article <9211160034.AA19394@worldlink.worldlink.com> wk00636@WORLDLINK.COM (Vampire Lestat) writes:
>>Oh and by the way I am interested in finding out some more about the
>>Netherlands as I have been thinking about going there sometime in the future,
>>since you said that you're at the University of Utrecht in the Netherland I
>>thought I might ask you...

>it's legal over there...

What's legal over here? Almost anything I suppose...:)

--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
The Netherlands                          *
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:59:09 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: M-PERSON, A Cappella, Purple One, DEBBIE!

>The reason that I haven't gone into the tape-making business is that
>my second cassette deck sucks.  No problem, said I a couple of months
>ago, I'll just go get another one like the one I've got (Pioneer's
>best non-auto-reverse a couple of years ago, like $150, the best
>high-frequency response I've ever heard).
>
>So what do I find?  They don't make mine any more.  Worse than that,
>all the cassette decks I've seen have two transports (I could live with
>that so long as they don't both suck) and/or auto-reverse (I couldn't
>live with that -- it's a short but sure trip to low-fidelity) and
>either they sound like they're playing through a bale of cotton, or
>they cost $400!!!
>
>So, any cassette tape deck recommendations, gang?

  Not that you will like.  I paid more for my tape
deck than for my amplifier and speakers combined.

  My ex-housemate got a nice 3 head Denon deck.  It
has its quirks (like soft buttons - it doesn't hold
the dolby settings on power down - so if you have most
of your tapes in db C or db off, you have to reset
that button every time you power up) but he seems
happy with it.

                            -Tim
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:50:00 EDT
From:         5_DCOREY@FAIR1.BITNET
Subject:      Another message concerning a cappella

Does anyone like the song by Shai? It's a cappella & I believe it's called
'If I Ever Fall In Love Again'. At first I didn't, but suddenly I'm planning
to possibly buy their album........
                                        Darice
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:23:00 EST
From:         CORV7402@SNYPLAVA.BITNET
Subject:      music

I have come to realize that musicians today play for the money rather than
for their fans.  do you think that bands like POISON and SLAUGHTER play just
for the money?  Jimmy Hendrix was one of the best guitarists ever and he
died when he was 27.  If he was around today, with the technology we now
have don't you think he would be astonishing?  do you think that there will
ever be a four man band as great as Led Zeppelin was?  It was amazing how
they managed to get four of the greatest musicians ever in one band!  Also
does anyone know how I can find a Grateful Dead list?
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:27:23 MEZ
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From:         Hosko <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Various, assorted, sundry, miscellaneous

Demonic chuckotronic said:
>   First of all, re Bonzo Dog Band: Is this the group that featured Neil
>Innes?  I love some of the things he's been involved in (The Rutles movie,
>some collaborations on record with Eric Idle).  For all of you who know
>this group, what would you advise me to look for at my local purveyor of
>recorded consumables?

The original Bonzo line-up was:

     Viv Stanshall (vocals, trumpet)
     Neil Innes (piano)
     Rodney Slater (sax)
     "Legs" Larry Smith (drums)
     Roger Ruskin Spear (vocals, action)
     David Claque (vocals, action)

The following members joined later:

     Dennis Cowan (bass guitar)
     Sam Spoons (drums)
     Vernon Dudley Bohay-Nowell (guitar, banjo, sax)

Albums:

     Gorilla (IMHO their best album - hillarious)
     The Doughnut In Granny's Greenhouse (Rock take-off - also very good)
     Tadpoles (Bit patchy)
     Keynsham ( "     "  )
     Let's Make Up And Be Friends (A reunion album with a different flavour
       to the other four)

  I would recommend the first two albums. If you like compilation albums then
they do have a 'best of...' on CD thats got 99% of their best stuff on it.
If you find that you like this sort of humour then give Viv Shanshall's solo
album _Sir Henry At Rawlinson End_ a listen (this used to be one of John
Peel's favourite albums), although you may find this rather difficult to
get hold of.

Hosko
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:35:00 EDT
From:         5_DCOREY@FAIR1.FAIRFIELD.EDU
Subject:      PRINCE & NPG

Hello - I'm a new subscriber, so bear with me. I just wanted to know why
there aren't any messages concerning Prince's fantastic new album. If you
don't have it already, go out and buy it. It's a great album. Maybe after
listening to it you'll become a collector like me & collect all of his albums
since 1978. If anyone would like to send a message directly to me it's
5_dcorey.fair1
                                 Bye!
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From: CC29@IONA.BITNET (Ilia)
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Subject: RE: For Those About To Rock
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:07:24 GMT
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Sonia wrote the following:

> Just saw a great video last night.. _For Those About to Rock We Salute You_
>
> Film of tour to Moscow in 1991 probably only a few weeks or a month after the
> coup ... of Pantera, Black Crowes, Metallica, AC/DC.  They performed
> (apparently all in one day--none of the details were made very clear) in that
> order.  Hey Ilia!  Were you there? Any inside stories????
> This was my first VIEWING of these bands (I know--talk about being totally out
> of it)...  Incredible concert... though at the outset, during Pantera, there
> was a lot of violence and mutual aggression between the crowd and the
> militia---thanks to Pantera's ominous and threatening demeanor; they were my
> least favorite of the four.  The mood became more upbeat as the other bands
> came on,
> and by Metallica's turn, which seemed to be around sundown, there were a lot o
> militia-men sitting up on each other's shoulders, waving their jackets in the
> air and JAMMING.


     Sorry, Sonia, I have to disappoint you. I wasn't there then, and I
woudn't be there if I had an opprtunity to do so. The giagantic shows
that are meant to demonstrate liberalism of the new leadership and bring
a couple millions into the pocket of some 'new businessman' who
five years ago would have had a heart attack if he heard the word
'ROCK' - those shows can surely be fun for the American public (hey,
Michael, put the appropriate quote here), but they do not attract tired
individuals like myself. You'd probably say that it was just a concert
and hence, it should be viewed as musical, rather than political,
enent. Well, when you are surrounded by certain objects for a period
long enough to make you associate those objects with their purpose, it
is very hard to separate one from the other. And for me, militia uniform
is always a symbol of people who can stick you into a car, beat you up
to the state of unconsciousness, and throw you out at some deserted
place. And militia-men jamming to the sounds of rock-music is one of the
most discusting scenes that I can imagine.
      I don't want to sound like I am trying to discourage you from
enjoying what you saw. I just happen to have an allergy to a certain
fruit, and unfortunately, I cannot share with you the pleasure of
tasting it. Sorry.

             Ilia.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:03:00 EST
From:         Ryche-r <KTUCKER@GMUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Please unsubscribe me!

I have sent this letter once before.  Please remove me from the mailing list.
Thank You,
Ken Tucker
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: new Cleveland/Boulez Le Sacre Du Printemps
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:18:25 GMT


OK, the 1992 Boulez/Cleveland version of Igor Stravinsky's Le Sacre Du
Printemps has hit the stores in the U.S.  I presume by the review in
Grammophone that it has been out in Europe for a few months.  That issue
had an interview with Boulez stating he wants to rerecord many things he
has already done.  There also is another rerecording with Debussy's
Prelude just out.  I haven't heard either one.
Boulez has recorded Le Sacre with Cleveland in 1969, and one
other time much earlier.  I don't have the earliest one, but I have been
doing A-B comparisons of his 1969 version with the 1992 version.

I have to say I like the 1969 version better, for one, the recording
gives you the perspective of being in the trenches, the 1992 DDD is more
distant.  ( Apparently sacrificial dances are not a spectator sport ;)
Whether it is this or the playing, the 1969 version comes off more
ferocious and primitive. I think he is able to get the 1969 orchestra 
more locked in on the same rhythmic pulse, and when that happens, the 
gesture expands, it is as if the instruments become part of the percussion
section.  Boulez gets what we in the jazz world call "in the pocket".
This seems to get away from the 1992 orchestra.  For instance, on Danse 
Sacrale - L'elue, the Grammophone reviewer complains about the stodgy 
tempo, but I don't think the problem is with the tempo.  The brass get 
the right staccato to give it the push, but the strings don't follow 
through, so the energy drags.  It is not just in this section, I think 
whenever a strong rhythmic pulse is called for in any part of the piece, 
( the fortissimo of Rondes printanieres, for instance) the 1969 orchestra 
does it better.  ( Grammophone also complains about this one french horn 
part being inaudible, but that one is too quiet on most Le Sacre's I 
have heard, except the 1969 Boulez )

If the 1992 version has some things better, I think it is when the music
is more textural.  Boulez seems to have sorted out the contrasting
elements of the textures, and when this happens, there is greater
clarity.  It is like you are seeing an image with better resolution.
But with Le Sacre, if you do as I do and put the energy first, then
stick with the 1969 version. 

Anyway, I'll see him do it live with the Chicago symphony soon enough.
They recorded a faster version of it with Solti in the mid 70s.  The
rhythmic energy doesn't sag, but I think it also sometimes sounds
rushed.  (not in the pocket ;)

Jeff
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:44:42 CST
From:         txiki <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Cage cold

Cranky (because of a head cold) and spacy (courtesy of decongestants and aspiri
n with codeine), I happened to tune in WFMT yesterday afternoon to discover an
incredible "Tribute to John Cage" narrated by Raymond Wilding White.  It lasted
 for 3 hrs (!), though I was only able to hear and tape about half of it.  Did
anyone else by any chance catch it? Called WFMT this a.m. to request program in
fo, and whether they would run it again.  Apparently no such plans at the momen
t.  Also asked whether I could purchase a copy of the entire presentation.  No
such luck either.  Of course I thought about Michael and Sonia, and now realize
 that I must reread the review of _Ionisation_.  (It's strange how much one can
learn after the fact.)

It's clearly beyond my ability to provide you with even a minimal idea of the e
xtraordinarily rich texture of the program's content.  But there were sheer gem
s strewn all over the place: e.g. "random is only random until one detects a pa
ttern."  (I wish I had said that!)

Well, listening to this didn't help with my overdue book review, but it did ins
pire me.  And as I grew increasingly mellow, I thought about ways to improve Al
lmusic by humanizing the posts and exchanges.  I hesitate to offer them now
because they're somewhat hoaky, but might to do so at a later time before I tak
e an extended leave from the list to return to teaching.

Renato
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:06:00 EDT
From:         Another message from Rosemary! <RWARREN@TOPAZ.CONCORDIA.CA>
Subject:      xmas wish list ..

hi santa,

please put these vinyl gems under the tree:

The Jackson 5:  ABC
The Jackson 5:  Third Album (yes that's the correct name)
Jermaine Jackson:  Word to the Badd (original version with nasty lyrics)

and if you have room in the sleigh, find michael jackson, wrap a big bow around
his neck and fit him under the tree too!  (just kidding, but a nice idea...)

"Up on the housetop, quick quick quick,
Down thru the chimney with ol' St. Nick!"
        -- The Jackson 5, "Up on the Housetop"

Rosemary Warren         rwarren@topaz.concordia.ca
Montreal's Favorite Jacksonmaniac !!!
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:05:00 CST
From:         SOUND CAN WASH CLOTHES <TBUCK@KNOX.BITNET>
Subject:      ??? Address for Tower Records in Chicago? (Downtown?)

> On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:57:00 CST SOUND CAN WASH CLOTHES said:
> > I'm got a friend going to Chicago this weekend and she said she'd pick up
> > the Praxis Transmutation CD for me. Does anybody know the address for Rose
> > Records (on Wabash?) in downtown Chicago? Is there any other place in the
> >loop that might have it?
>
> OK, one last one, because I do have to get my teeth cleaned: 214 S. Wabash,
> tel. 752-3700.  Could try Tower; they're huge.

OK. You knew I had to ask. Where is Tower in downtown Chicago? (I've been
to Rose many times, and Jazz Record Mart too, but never to Tower.) Exact
address would be great! Adva(thanx)nce!!!

> Renato "information central" Barahona
>
> >                                              Tom "Buck-Naked" Buck

                                                        Tom
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Subject: Re: Musical wish list / Seattle Bands
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:46:41 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL writes:

>I was trying to think of all the bands that have come out of Seattle. Here's my
>list. Is there any logical explanation of why there are so many bands coming
>from Seattle? Did I miss any?

I forgot to mention in my first followup to this that when a couple members
of Queensryche appeared on MTV's Headbanger's Ball, back last winter, Rikki
asked them why Seattle bands were dominating the market, (the last question
in the segment) and Chris DeGarmo explained that the bands had all been
involved in a chemical experiment conducted by Boeing.  [No offense, Bob
Crispin! ;)]

So, that's one possibility... 

[That appearance is documented in "Screaming in Digital" volume 18, if you 
feel like FTPing it and reading more]

-Shag

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From:         Mr Bad Example <HAMELIN@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A Stick and a Crimson birthday suit

Adam,

As far as the address for Stick Enterprises, I'm sorry but I no longer
have an address.  You might want to check a few of the more popular
guitar mags as I seem to recall Emmet taking out a small ad in them.

                                        kevin.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:39:40 EST
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Recycling and MORE
              "mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU" at Nov 23, 92 4:22 pm

Marsha--

Gotta break the news: Ilia, though the name sounds feminine in English because
of the ending, is a Russian name for a GUY.  I sent him the BLUES, what else??

Renato--

Varese, not Cage, wrote _Ionisation_

Adam--

My husband thought your pithy remark about the dead wet ducks was one of the
best recycled allmusic items I've brought home in a long time.  (I copied it
out so I wouldn't forget it.)

---Gosh, I wish I could sling some more highhanded corrections and
observations around but I can't think of any.

The Bloomdid never did tell us how his Saturday night fling went, or did I miss
that?

OK, I'll ask for some advice: my sister, a RILLY good pianist, broke her finger
RILLY badly.  It is healing but slowly, and part of the bone is shattered.  Any
other musicians out there who have sustained finger injuries: any good
voodoo remedies, etc???

Sonia "duller than doornails tonight"
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 13:32:30 -0800
From:         Raymond Keller <rkeller@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Please REMOVE me.

Is this the list from no return?  I mailed the list exploder and Mike
Karolchik at two separate addresses.  I even included an "UNSUBSCRIBE
ALLMUSIC" in one of my messages in case it were automatic.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a nice list.  I think the people are
really cool.  Educated and shrewd.  (With exceptions.  I'm sure you all
know who I'm talking about.)  But my purpose in subscribing to this list
was to get info to help me purchase a quality guitar.  (The company
representative is going to hand select a guitar for me.  I guess I bugged
'em well enough.)  Many thanks to those of you who did give advice.

Until I get some sort of mail program that selectively searches mail for
topics of great interest to me, I don't really want to have to deal with
the volume of mail this list generates.  I'm getting flooded.  Eep.

RSK - Ready to take off my water wings--please.
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:31:00 EST
From:         "PLUTO::DELEMOSM"
              <DELEMOSM%PLUTO.decnet@APRINT.DHMC.DARTMOUTH.EDU>
Subject:      A Capella sheet music

I was wondering if there's anyone out there who might have a lead on a good
source of sheet music/arrangements suitable for a mixed a Capella group.
I find that it's pretty tough to arrange faster than songs can be learned.
Anyone run into this problem?  Any thoughts?

(Apologies in advance for any stupidity in the above... my first post)

Marc
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