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From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: HK singers
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:38:08 GMT

In <9204112029.AA08838@oak.math.ucla.edu>, cykwan@MATH.UCLA.EDU (Chik Yun Kwan) writes:
|> 
|>   If you are asked to divide HK singers into different catagories,
|> how would you divide them and who will you put in each catagory ?
|> 
|> Idol type:
|> 
|>    1) Andy Lau
|>    2) Leon Lai
|>    3) Kwok Fu Shing
|> 
|> Talent in composing, arranging:
|> 
|>    1) Anthony Lun
|>       eg: "Man behind the piano", "heart is still cold",...
|>    2) Lowell Lo ( Lo Kwun Ting )
|>       eg: "Going with you", "Sky bird", "The lost heart",...
|>    3) Ah Lam ( George Lam )
|>       eg: "who can understand me", "moment","the unforgetable you"-
|>           in his latest album ,...
|>    4) Danny Chan
|>       eg: "wait","Lin Yee","the footprint on the beach",...
|>    5) Law Tai Yau ( who composed Queen's Road East )
|>    6) Beyond
|>    7) Tai Chi
|>    8) Chris Wong ( Wong Hoi Ken )
|>    9) Sam Hui
|>    10) Kenny Bee
|>    11) Tat Ming
|>    12) Fundamental

You apparently left out 2 superstars and 1 talented person. (Hint: they
are the same generation as Sam Hui and Ah Lam.)

|> Great singing skill:
|> 
|>    1) Ah Lam (remark: I think he is the best in HK. He can simply sing
|>       any keys )
|>    2) Alan Tam
|>    3) Shally Yeh (sp? that is Yip sin Man)
|>    4) Lam Yik Lin
|>    5) Anita Mui
|>    6) Lui Fong
|>    7) Tsai Siu Fung 
|>    8) Jackie Cheung
|>    9) Lee Huk Ken 
|> 
|> Any comments ?

I like these classifications. I think there should be at least two
more categories: Lyrics and Sound effect/recording.

|> Ian Kwan
|> cykwan@math.ucla.edu
|> 


Steven
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From: pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip)
Subject: Re: HK Hotels
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:25:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.204430.949@cs.wayne.edu> kkc@surya.cs.wayne.edu (Kwok K. Chan) writes:
>
>If anyone happened to watch the TV program "The  World of Rich and Famous"
>last weekend, you should realize that three hotels in HK were ranked
>top five in the world (at least from their choice). 

That's something HK people should be proud of too, despite the notorious 
lack of courtesy of people in HK >:)

>Regent and Mandarin are ranked second and fourth in the top 10 best
>hotel catagory respectively.  In the grand classic hotel catagory,
>Peninsula ranks the third.

Mandarin dropped to 4th?? Oh well, it used to be on 2nd place for quite
a long time.
BTW The Royal Palace Hotel at Bangkok (hope I get the name right) has 
always been at No.1. Is it the same again this time?

Patrick
From: uflin@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Frankie Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Lai Ming
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:42:01 GMT

In <uchoman.702859677@mcl> uchoman@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Irene So) writes:

>I don't think Lai Ming is as bad as the way described in some of the news
>article.  I feel pity for him since no matter how hard he has tried to
>improve in singing his songs, most people still argue that he always sings
>out of tone.  Don't be so stubborn and just give him a chance instead.
>Support him in a way and stop complaining.
>If you were put in the same situation, I think you will feel very
>discouraging. 

>So stop complaining and be CONSIDERATE!

However, it is the fact that his singing is really bad.
I bet you are just a crazy fan of him.
Will you support me if I become a singer one day even though I sing 
very bad.

Don't support people blindly.


> Irene


Frankie
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From: chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Zhong Qi Iao (Daniel))
Subject: Re: [friends] U.S.A.-ans live isolated life?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 21:35:42 GMT

>Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.hongkong
>Reply-To: chungdan@leland.stanford.edu
>
>     Not only do U.S.A.-ans know less neighbors than Chinese, they
>may know less classmates, too.  During high (= secondary) school, the
>concept of a "class" in the China way is non-existant.  They do not even
>have the same classmates every term (= quarter/semester).  At least we
>have the same classmates every term, every year, even in our high school
>all through junior high school.  Thus, some of us are still corresponding
>or visiting, those in junior high school, and of course in senior high school,
>too.
>
>     The U.S.A. way may lead to more isolated life.  Thus there are
>problems of sans-dependence (not in the sense of "self-stand", but in
>the sence of "helplessness"), leading to alcohol, drugs, and sex-acts
>(in the order of increasing seriousness).  Actually, one should put boy/girl-
>friendship as a reason for the third item.  U.S.A.-ans may know less
>people, and so they form boy/girl-friends easily, wandering their thoughts
>away from usual friends and concerns.  But while you watch this in a
>university, paired-ups are no envy.  For, in average (not: for every case),
>they change topics much more often than Chinese do.
>
>     And also, among colleages, because we live so far away, it is
>difficult to talk about entertainment off work.   It may be seldom that
>they go out after work hours to places, and seldom in weekends.  One
>used to hear because more older employees have pair-up partners and
>family, new ones seldom mingle with them.  However, it seems also a
>reason that people in the U.S.A. live too far away from each other.
>Actually, one thinks it is not that bad in big companies, because you
>may know more people in your own town.
>
>     Responds?
>
>					*Zhong* Qi-Iao, U.S.A.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: Lai Ming
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 18:40:10 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <uflin.702895321@mcl> uflin@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Frankie Lin) writes:
>In <uchoman.702859677@mcl> uchoman@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Irene So) writes:
>
>>I don't think Lai Ming is as bad as the way described in some of the news
>>article.  I feel pity for him since no matter how hard he has tried to
>>improve in singing his songs, most people still argue that he always sings
>>out of tone.  Don't be so stubborn and just give him a chance instead.
>>Support him in a way and stop complaining.
>>If you were put in the same situation, I think you will feel very
>>discouraging. 
>
>>So stop complaining and be CONSIDERATE!
>
>However, it is the fact that his singing is really bad.
>I bet you are just a crazy fan of him.
>Will you support me if I become a singer one day even though I sing 
>very bad.
>
>Don't support people blindly.
>
>
>> Irene
>
>
>Frankie
>
>

I totally agree with Frankie, Lai Ming's singing SUCKS.

- Louis
From: s921347@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Yoon Siong Lai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Opinions on singers
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:50:24 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO) writes:

>gho@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grace Ho) writes:

>>Hi, being an ABC and recently just started to listen
>>to chinese music, so far, i've come upon Andy Lau,
>>Alan Tam, Leslie Cheung, Anita Mui, Sally Yeh
>>and a few others.  

>You'd already got it! They are all good and popular HK singers :)
>BTW if you haven't got those CD/albums from Jackie Cheung, Ah Lam, 
>or Lowel Lo, then buy them all as well,.. yes, one more, the big brother
>Sam Hui, he'd just got retired, don't miss his last CD, remember !!

>>But, according to a magazine that i recently read,
>>they say that there's another big singer out there...more 
>>popular than Andy Lau, Lai Ming and Jackie Cheung : a guy
>>named Aaron Kwok.  What do people think about his music?

>Is that a Taiwan magazine ?
>Then I'm afraid that guy is Kwok Fu Shing (Correct me if wrong).
>He had been one of the TVB artists, then he went to Taiwan and had been
>on Taiwan's TV for a short period. He'd got a lot of young girl fans
>there and then he started singing. 

>I heard he got a cool character, so I think he's a blue singer. But up
>to my information he only sang mandarin songs, maybe he changes his
>style now... not very sure. But anyway, I think he is not very popular
>in HK.

>>Is it worth listening to?  I'd really appreciate your comments

>Just trial and error, but don't forget to make a summary and post here :)

>>on him....and also....is Lai Ming really THAT bad?

>Actually Lai Ming is a good artist, you can prove it by watching one
>or two of his TV videos. (don't try to compare him with Andy Lau !)
>His songs? Not too bad if you have a good HiFi :) :)

>"Oh yeh, Oh yeh, Oh yeh"

>Fred
>-- 
>k.k.soo@bradford.ac.uk
Aeron kwok is infact a  Taiwanise. His song is not bad. And most of the time
he sing sentimental song. He is very famous in Malaysia and Singapore.
many young girls like him. Try  listen to his music.  
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From: pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon)
Subject: Re: HK "roots"?? << was: "I love Hong Kong, too! But why? >>
Keywords: Culture and People
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:10:22 GMT

leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung) writes:

>In <1992Apr12.013731.15528@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon) writes:
>|> 
>|> 	Personal attitude alone is not sufficient to define "root".  An ABC

>So, what is the definition of the term "root"?

	My orginal article implies that "root" is a function of "sense of
	attachment" plus "cultural history" and "cultural background".
	"Cultural history" = How long you share the culture traits with other
	"Cultural background" = What kind of info. you share with others

>First, in order to make your def.(?) operational, you need to define what
>is "enough." Second, it seems to me you look at root in binary term, (in HK
>or not), but I think that it is probably more productive to look at root
>issue in qualitative terms, i.e., the depth of one's root. With this 
>perspective, a person without a root (in HK) is just a special case
>(depth = 0).

	The depth of my answer is limited by the original question "do we 
	have roots in HK" and "do ABC have roots in HK".  Of course there 
	does not exist a simple yes-no answer in general because the criteria 
	are fuzzy.  How to measure the strength of "sense of attachment"? 
	How to measure the degree of being influenced by HK culture?  All 
	kinds of similar questions need to be answered if we want to compare
	people's roots.  My goal is to give a big direction.  Maybe you
	can give suggestion on details.

>|> 	You may argue that this fact just proves that ABC is not HKese. However,

>I think you are discussing whether an ABC can claim his/her root in HK, not
>whether an ABC is a HKese. To me, being an ABC and not HKese does not
>preclude one from claiming/discovering/cultivating his/her root in HK.

	I put that statement on because I thought it was not obivious that my
	definition is applicable to ABC.  My argument is that an ABC's root 
	not in HK even if they have a strong sense of attachment; and my
	reason is justified by the fact that they don't share "enough" culture
	traits" and "cultural background" with HKese.

	Obviously you can't agree with me.

>Steven

	One last comment:  Your word  "depth of root" is as vague as my word
	"enough".  "Depth" is a quantitative, not qualitative, term.  I don't
	think we have to compare more than one kind of root.  (Comparing root
	in HK and root in America is meaningless.)

	I am looking forward to hearing your way of measuring "depth of root"
	if it is possible to be done in a nice and precise way.

Polygon
From: K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Leon Lai's Concert in Reno, Nevada
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:33:35 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91862372@muser

chiu@pyramid.unr.edu (Edward S.N.Chiu) writes:

>It's my first time to watch the show of Leon Lai. The first three
>songs, which were fast ones, were TERRIBLE. It seemed that he
>could not breathe. He was afraid to sing the high-pitch note,

All his songs are terrible, or sometimes disgusting! No matter whether
high-pitch or not. Especially in live show, I noticed he'd never sung 
a simple song successfully without any mistake.

>especially the high-pitch note at the end of some sentenses (sorry
>here that I cannot explain what I want to say as I am terrible in
>music terms).

Don't worry about that. His 'out-of-tone' singing style is well-known
all over the world. But so what? He is still classified as a qualified
singer, some people even put him to the rank of Alan Tam, LAM, or Andy
Lau !!  

>I only give a C to this concert. 

If I were you, I'd rather give F- to this concert.

Fred
-- 
k.k.soo@bradford.ac.uk
Computer Science, University of Bradford, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: Breathing Sound of Yo-Yo Ma (was Re: HK singers)
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:48:22 GMT

fcc1@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Fat-Chi Cheng) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr14.000344.16144@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, chng_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Anna L. Cheng) writes:
|> > 
|> > I personally think Sandy Lam IS better than Sally Yeh.  Sally Yeh's breathing
|> > sound is so loud when you listen to her songs,  it really annoys me heck of 
|> > a lot.  
|> 
|> Yo-Yo Ma also has a breathing noise "background" when he plays
|> his cello.  Any commands?

Is it what makes Yo-Yo Ma famous?

Breathing sound has indeed become a very noticeable part of
pop-song singing skills. I remembered I came across an article
in Electronic Music not long ago that a recording engineer
talked about all sort of things regarding microphones. One
test/preparation he spent quite some time on is exactly
about testing the microphone's response of breathing. May be
this is the sound that provokes people's subliminal concious.


Steven
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: pang@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu (Chi-Wai Pang (Unix lab proctor))
Subject: Alumini
Organization: Radford University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 20:52:45 GMT

Does anyone out there is the alumini of Notre Dame College?             
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: HK Governor
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:38:20 GMT

I guess whoever pick up the post as the last governor won't
matter much. As such, I would prefer Princess Di, if we really
can choose, for that would at least leave a beautiful memory.


Steven
------
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what you expect. It's just hard for us to explain what you
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: grants@syacus.acus.oz.au (Grant Sayer)
Subject: Where to buy woodworking tools
Summary: woodworking tools in HK
Organization: ACUS, Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney AUST.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:31:33 GMT


Does anyone know where to purchase woodworking equipment in HK ?
For example, chisels, routers, drills and reference books.

Thanks for any help
-- 
Grant Sayer                   ACSnet : grants@syacus.acus.oz
Ph : +61 2 390-1339         Internet : grants@syacus.acus.OZ.AU
Fax: +61 2 390-1391             UUCP : uunet!munnari!syacus.acus.oz.au!grants
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rk7151@csc.albany.edu (KWOK RAYMOND Y)
Subject: Re: I N S T A N T N O O D L E S
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
	<1992Apr7.230547.25495@bradford.ac.uk> <ku57c6INN3ks@girtab.usc.edu>
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:32:29

In article <ku57c6INN3ks@girtab.usc.edu> plaw@girtab.usc.edu (Patrick Law) writes:

>      I know it is a bit like a joy killer when I talk about the bad
>   side of instant noodles in this forum. Personally, I loved instant
>   noodle a lot. Everytime I ate one, I drank all the soup (MSG plus
>   coloring) as well.
>
>      However, my close friend's mother got a stomach cancer about
>   two years ago. Though the cause is not directly related to instant
>   noodle, I started thinking about eating healthy.
>
>      Come on guys, look at the ingredients of the instant noodle on
>   the package everytime when you are waiting the water to boil. I
>   think you have to have a chemistry degree to understand all the
>   terms there. And all these chemicals go down to your stomach!!

	Then you should try the healthy Kung Chai Meen, the new
	(actually been out for years) stuff w/o MSG.
>
>   Patrick
-- 
  Raymond Kwok Yin Lung	kwok@cs.albany.edu
Freezing rain, mixed with snow, plus wind chilling, make me stay at home. What 
can I do then? Study?? :-p  Sleep?? NO, cause I have slept too much already. 
Study Geomancy?? Great!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: clee@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Cassian Lee)
Subject: Re: Alumini
Originator: clee@harriett.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:43:54 GMT


In article <1992Apr13.205245.2773@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu>, pang@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu (Chi-Wai Pang (Unix lab proctor)) writes:
|> Does anyone out there is the alumini of Notre Dame College?             
 
Did you mean University of Notre Dame?? It's located in South Bend, IN.
I did go to U of ND...

Cassian Lee

clee@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 23:29:16 EDT
From: <HEW@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: RE: Canada Imm to US for studying

I believe obtaining a return permit is free of charge, instead of $75.

Allan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rk7151@csc.albany.edu (KWOK RAYMOND Y)
Subject: Re: HK driver licence
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Distribution: usa
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:59:05

In article <12423@tamsun.tamu.edu> wwong@cs.tamu.edu (Wai-Kwok Wong) writes:
>   One of my friends is going to return to HK. 
>   Can she use her Texas driver licenceto apply
>   a HK driver licence? If yes, how?
>
>   Is an international driving permit useful?

Case 1:
	If she is Hong Kong resident, then she can apply HK driver license
	if she has possessed Texas driver licence over 6 months period.
	She need to use HK driver license to drive in Hongkong.
	If unluckily she being caught in car accident or traffic violation
	and discover she is using Texas driver licence, then she will
	be charged with "Driving without license"

Case 2:
	If she is not Hong Kong resident and if she stay in Hong Kong
	for less than two months, then she can use Texas driver licence
	to drive in Hong Kong for the period.

Case 3:
	If she is not Hong Kong resident and if she stay in Hong Kong
	over two months, she need to apply for Hong Kong driving licence.

Case 4:
	Someone has to confirm the following, since I'm not 100% sure.
	If she is born in Hong Kong, she is considered to be Hong Kong
	resident, even she gets Green Card or Citizenship of other
	country, Case 1 should be applied to her case.

To apply for Driver License - both Hong Kong or International,
simply go to Traffic Division (doubt about the actual name) and
apply for it. When she is backed to Hong Kong, she can look up
phone directory for the one convinent to her.

Also if she is going to apply for Hong Kong driver license, she can
specify to drive - stick shift - rather than auto shift. Since most
car in Hong Kong are stick shift. And she can drive both stick shift
and auto shift with stich shift driver license.

Ray



-- 
  Raymond Kwok Yin Lung	kwok@cs.albany.edu
Spring has arrived at Albany. According to weather forecase, we
will have a warm Easter.  Happy Easter to everyone.
From: vcsc335@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU (Johnny Chow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: PENPALS FOR EVERYBODY
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:23:59 GMT


Dear Richard,

>From: rsy@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Richard Sy)
>Subject: Pen Pals
>Message-ID: <1992Apr6.101710.24865@news.Hawaii.Edu>
>Sender: root@news.Hawaii.Edu (News Service)
>Nntp-Posting-Host: uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
>Organization: University of Hawaii at Manoa
>Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:17:10 GMT
>
>Can someone help me find pen pals that I could write to either
>through the conventional mail or through computer mail?
>I'd like some pen pals from Asia, US Mainland, Europe, anywhere.
>Thanks.

You can write to the following address and ask for help:

	IYS
	International youth service
	PB 125 SF-20101
	TURKU
	FINALND

Johnny.

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TO HKers: My most favourite song in this spring: Not easy to drop a tear
						 (by Alan Tam - "Lover")

How about yours?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 02:54:45 -0400 
From: "Wan W. Lo" <wl1i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: HK singers
	<1992Apr12.013017.14628@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>



About arranging & composing,
    we forgot:

        Andrew To(To Chi Tzi)
        Chow Kai Shun
        Tony Lo(Lo Tun Lei?)

A lot of good pop composer are unknow but very good. 
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From: edmond@cs.columbia.edu (Edmond Lee)
Subject: Re: HK "roots"?? << was: "I love Hong Kong, too! But why? >>
Keywords: Culture and People
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:38:20 GMT

In article <60wj9+d.wongi@netcom.com> wongi@netcom.com (Isaac Wong) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.023548.17128@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon) writes:
>>	Dynasty or something ).  The cause of such do-not-have-to-listen-to-
>>	lau-zone attitude can be contributed to the language barrier.
>	^^^^^^^^
>
>I know southerners call notherners "lau-zone", but what does it really mean?
>
>just curious...
>

I believe it's the Manderin pronounciation of "low hing" (old elder-brother).

Edmond
From: s921886@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (James Chun Ng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Population of HK
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:08:39 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

onward@fsg.com (Onward Lam) writes:

>chao@euclid.uoregon.edu (Kung M. Chao) writes:
>>
>>Something interesting. We only got 5.9M people in HK, 1991.
>>
>That is according to Census. My gut feeling is more like 6.2M.

>>Capital city of HK is Victoria--I never heard of this.
>>
>Well, now you have.


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Hi:
Hi:
You are right about that... there should be more than 6 million, at least it fel
ls so, I remember when I was in primary school days, there were already 5 millio
n something people in Hong KOng, it was a good 10 years ago, raising 1 million i
n Hong Kong is no big drama at all, just look at how many is coming into HOng Ko
ng every day from China.... very alarming.
Hong Kong has the world highest density in some part of the territory, I think Mon Kok is to besomething like 2000 people per square.Km (correct me If I'm wrong) but Australia has something like 2 per square km.
regards from Down Under
James