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From: csteffen@hotspur.gac.edu (Craig P Steffen)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: CLINTON-FAMILY
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:55:46 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
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In article <1993Jan25.181847.1@vxdesy.desy.de>  writes:
:In article <1jpp8lINNd18@news.gac.edu>, csteffen@hotspur.gac.edu (Craig P  
Steffen) writes:

[stuff about Clintons daughter deleted]


:Well, the Queen's offspring have gone through that sort of thing, and  
look at
:how well-balanced they are ...

Ah, yes, but there is a vital difference there.  The royal children will  
grow up to be royal people; princesses, princes, and/or kings.  The sort  
of social interaction that they are learning at the adolescent level will  
be what they deal with for the rest of their lives.  Chelsea will go  
through some rather formative years under a similar evironment to the  
royal one, but once her father is out of office, she will be a civillian  
just like everyone else and will have to re-learn how to deal with people.   
All in all I think that it is rather unfair.  It will be interesting to  
find out what she turns out like.

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Craig Steffen
Wielder of the Grand Unified field Theory
From: csteffen@hotspur.gac.edu (Craig P Steffen)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: QOTD
Date: 24 Jan 1993 18:44:23 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
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Quote of the Day:

This is especially for those college professors, and/or people who are  
interested in computer science.  If you know such people, pass this along,  
and reccommend the book to them as well.

  "There really wasn't a lot this machine could do that you couldn't do  
yourself in half the time with a lot less trouble," said Richard, "but it  
was, on the other hand, very good at being a slow and dim-witted pupil."
  Reg looked at him quizzically.
  "I had no idea they were supposed to be in short supply," he said.  "I  
could hit a dozen with a bread roll from where I'm sitting."
  "I'm sure.  But look at it this way.  What really is the point of trying  
to teach anything to anybody?"
  This question seemed to provoke a murmur of sympathetic approval from up  
and down the table.
  Richard continued, "What I mean is that if you really want to understand  
something, the best way is to try and explain it to someone else.  That  
forces you to sort it out in your own mind.  And the more slow and  
dim-witted your pupil, the more you have to break things down into more  
and more simple ideas.  And that's really the essence of programming.  By  
the time you've sorted out a complicated idea into little steps that even  
a stupid machine can deal with, you've certainly learned something about  
it yourself.  The teacher usually learns more than the pupil.  Isn't that  
true?"
  "It would be hard  to learn much less than my pupils," came a low growl  
from somewhere on the table, "without undergoing a prefrontal lobotomy."
                                  -DIRK GENTLY'S HOLISTIC DETECTIVE AGENCY

[for those of you who don't know, DIRK GENTLY'S HOLISTIC DETECTIVE AGENCY  
is by Douglas Adams.  It is, in my opinion, his best book to date.]


Craig Steffen
Wielder of the Grand Unified Field Theory
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From: svalich@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Svalich the Technomancer)
Subject: Re: QOTD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:30:40 GMT

In article <C1It7n.EDp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmueller@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (The Highlander) writes:
>Duck Tape is like the force, it has a light side, a dark side, and it binds
>the galaxy together.

The adhesive tape to which you refer to is "duct tape", not "Duck tape". 
You use it to tape up gaps in air ducts, not to tape up ducks (unless
you have a strange sexual fetish with taped-up animals).

=======================================================================
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: YAQOTD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:03:04 GMT


"A computer terminal is not some clunky old television with a typewriter in 
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From: mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool)
Subject: Re: Clinton
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:39:18 GMT

goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet wrote:
: 
: I would like to add my $.02 in here, if I may.
: 
: I believe what Mr. Steffen, or Craig if I may be so presumptuous,
: says. Pres. clinton will wait until the waters settle a little to
: decide what he needs to do. It is unfortunate that he is to enter his
: office under such trying and tense conditions, but if he handles
: himself well, he may make his career in Washington much easier. If Mr.
: Clinton manages to make the very best of a bad situation, he will
: cement his stay in Washington into a favorable impression and calm
: some of the ujproar about his campaign promises. 
: 
: Why is everyone so worried about those silly promises anyway? The poor
: man has enough to worry about as it is. A new job in a new city in a
: new house and Hilary to contend with for the Presidency of the country
: he holds so dear. Give him a break; he needs at least a chance to get
: a little settled before people start second-guessing him!!
: 
: Gina Goff
: Mistress of Unknown Subconscious Drives

Yes, but his "silly promises" are kind of what got him elected.  He told 
everyone what he wanted to hear, and they said "sure".  Now he's figuring
out that it's not possible to deliver them, and saying as much.  Why 
didn't he say so in the first place?  

I'm not trying to say he CAN'T do something good, I'm saying he can't 
accomplish all he promised to do.  A column in the New York Times said it
best, I think.  To paraphrase, it said "Clinton would be much better off
if he stopped trying to please everyone and simply set out to do what's
best."  

Clinton needs to get his act together and stop wavering around trying to 
make everyone happy.  At least Perot wasn't afraid to say what he thought,
but look where it got him...
	--MLM
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Subject: Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope...
From: csteffen@hotspur.gac.edu (Craig P Steffen)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:16:31 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
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I have a problem.  I read a series of books a long time ago, and I would  
like to read them again.  However, I have forgotten any useful logistical  
information about them, such as titles or author--I only remember certain  
plot elements; so I come to those who read this group for help.  I will  
outline a bit of what I remeber, if you are not interested, please skip  
the rest of this message.

I believe that it was a series of 5 books, whith two different sets of  
characters.  In the book 1, the characters are two brothers and a  
sister--the main plot line of the book is them, (with this attendant  
grandfather/mentor figure) is them following the clues of a roll parchment  
that they find in an attic.  The quest eventually leads them to a cave  
that you can only get to at VERY low tide, and within it they find a  
golden chalice, along with another smaller scroll in a case which provides  
the information to decode the inscriptions on the chalice.

Book 2 introduces the other main charater, a boy, oh, I don't know, 12 or  
13 or so.  There are, of course, two major forces in the world that are  
contending for control of the world, one representing evil and the other  
good.  In the book, he is informed that he is one of the "good" ones.   
There apparently have been many of them, among them being King Arthur.   
They symbol of the group of "good guys" is a circle quartered by a cross.   
One of the boys tasks is to find the six "seals" or whatever, each one  
made of a different material, and each one inscribed by a circle quartered  
by a cross.  One is made of wood, another ice, another, fire (it is not a  
firey ring, it is made out of fiery colored stone) and so on.  

I don't know if it was in the second book or what, but it was one with the  
same character as described in the previous paragraph.  I remember that is  
was close to his birtday, which was on December 23.  Due to his birthday's  
close proximity to Christmas, his older brother had promised never to send  
him a present that was both for his birthday and Christmas, but this year  
he did.  The present was a huntsman's helmet.  One of the allies of the  
good force was the "The Hunt", let by the huntsman whom the helmet was  
for.  That is the only line that I actually remember from the books: "And  
tonight, for the first time in a thousand years, the Hunt would have a  
quarry."

That is pretty much what I remember.  If anyone can identify the author or  
titles or name of the series, I would be most grateful if you would let me  
know what they are.  I apologise for this hideous waste of bandwidth.  See  
you all in QOTD...

Craig Steffen
Wielder of the Grand Unified Field Theory

PS -- any suggestions where else to post this message?
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: YAQOTD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:07:39 GMT

"He avenges the innocent, upholds justice and makes a unique fashion
statement." --Detroit Free Press Fashion columnist on Batman

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 I am not convinced that it is not a handicap in understanding quantum theory."
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From: bahn@main.mndly.umn.edu (Christopher Bahn)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: CLINTON-FAMILY
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:09:10 GMT
Organization: the Minnesota Daily (U of MN Student Newspaper)

In article <1k1d3iINN2o7@news.gac.edu> csteffen@hotspur.gac.edu (Craig P Steffen) writes:

>In article <1993Jan25.181847.1@vxdesy.desy.de>  writes:
>:In article <1jpp8lINNd18@news.gac.edu>, csteffen@hotspur.gac.edu (Craig P  
>Steffen) writes:

>[stuff about Clintons daughter deleted]


>:Well, the Queen's offspring have gone through that sort of thing, and  
>look at
>:how well-balanced they are ...

>Ah, yes, but there is a vital difference there.  The royal children will  
>grow up to be royal people; princesses, princes, and/or kings.  The sort  
>of social interaction that they are learning at the adolescent level will  
>be what they deal with for the rest of their lives.  Chelsea will go  
>through some rather formative years under a similar evironment to the  
>royal one, but once her father is out of office, she will be a civillian  
>just like everyone else and will have to re-learn how to deal with people.   
>All in all I think that it is rather unfair.  It will be interesting to  
>find out what she turns out like.

Look at Amy Carter. She turned out pretty whacked-out. Wasn't she involved 
with Abbie Hoffman?

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From: scrutton@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: U.N. Rehash
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:27:15 -0400
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1993Jan21.074607.15594@nuscc.nus.sg>, tim@iss.nus.sg (Tim Poston) writes:
> werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner) writes:
> : > with us has the right to bomb us?  
> : 
> : Maybe if we invaded Canada or Mexico or Cuba.
> Hey, two out of three isn't bad;

It is three out of three you scum sucking american fascist peegs.

Back before Canada was Canada y'all came up here an gut yer asses
whooped. Whur jest bidin 'r time boys...

<end sarcasm>

Seriously though, I always dozed in history class but wasn't there 
something about the war of 1812, or was that the big internal pissing 
contest.

-- 
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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: Re: Prophesy-End
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:35:47 GMT

In article <C1CIJz.AJB@umassd.edu> s13989bc@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>	While in a very intense discussion of theology a Catholic
>friend mentioned that I'd b etter repent now because the world was ending
>soon. what was stated was that in the Good Book it is said that the 
>ten toes of Babalonia (supposedly the united European states) is one of
>the signs of the world ending. What if any opinion do you have on this
>tidbit of dogmatic destiny? Should I quit college and go on the trip around 
>the world now???

For a _damn_ good book on the arbitrariness of prophecy, read "Good Omens"
by Neil Gaiman and Terry Prachett.  All this end of the world hype is 
merely the "end of the Millenium" blues, or the Fin de siecle, as the 
French referred to the passing of one century, andf the hysteria it evoked.
Rmember three important things when discussing prophetic signs with someone:

1)  God probably doesn't have a copy of the Julio-Claudian calendar, and 
wouldn't give two shits about our time system, whether he ends it on Dec.
31, 1999, at 11:59:59, or on June 17, 2375, around tea time.  When he comes, 
he'll come. 

2)  Jesus said NOBODY was going to expect him when he came, like a thief in 
the night.  You can be ready, but you just couldn't know WHEN.  So people
like your little friend are actually safeguarding the world from Armageddon.

3)  St.  John of Patmos, the guy who wrote Revelations, was sent to Patmos 
because it was a lunatic asylum, and because he was an embarrassment to the
early Christians.  He was a LOONball!  The other thing Patmos is known for
is its hallucenagenic mushrooms, given to the mentally ill at that time.  
-- 
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From: rxz1011@usl.edu (Zamora Rodrigo)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Anecdotes
Date: 23 Jan 93 07:16:17 GMT
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana


The World Cup soccer finals in Buenos Aires, Arg, evoked intense 
emotions all over the world.  When West Germany lost to Austria
2-3, a Berliner leaped from a second-story window because he 
didn't want to go on living.  And in Frankfurt, a distraught
nun throttled a man who expressed delight over Austria's win.
		-Encyclopedia Britanica's 1979 Book of the Year

Sam Binion, a city bus driver in Chicago, was among several
persons asked during a street interview whether they would want
a doctor to tell them clearly if death was approaching.  Without
hesitation, Sam replied that he certainly would.  For one thing,
he said, it would give him time to get a second medical opinion.
		-Encyclopedia Britanica's 1979 Book of the Year

FARADAY, Michael
	-British chemist and physicist
Faraday's interest in knowledge for its own sake sometimes baffled 
people with a more practical turn of mind.  William Gladstone(Prime
Minister of England), watching Faraday at an experiment from which
he could discern no practical result, asked, "Of what use is such
a discovery?"  Faraday retorted, "Why, you soon will be able to
tax it."
		-The Little Brown Book of Anecdotes, Clifton Fadiman
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From: rohrer@utkvx2.utk.edu (Rohrer, Cheryl Diane)
Subject: Re: World history (sort of)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:44:00 GMT

In article <1k5bnrINNr5r@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, megazone@coal.WPI.EDU (MegaZone) writes...
>You know... I REALLY try not to feel superior... Really I do... Sometimes
>though examples of how pitiful some of my fellow humanoids really are makes
>it very hard...
> 
>Sigh... Where did they go anyway?  Dannye Quaylee Highe Schoole?
> 
>Be afraid, be very afraid.... (It'd be a lot more humorous if it wasn't
>true... Time or Newsweek had a 'nerd' test a few years back... A bunch or
>questions easy to obscure... If you got like half of them you were supposedly
>above average... I got over 90%, and I wasn't trying... I ranked far above
>what was considered a nerd... And I don't think I'm all that bright...)
> 
>###############################################################################
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>#Email megazone@wpi.wpi.edu  Moderator, WPI anime FTP site 130.215.24.1 /anime#
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> 
> 
A couple of days ago my histroy prof. was lecturing on the American West and
it build up after the Civil War.   At one point in the class he was talking
about the famous trails that settlers followed, one in particular--the
Chisholm(not sure of spelling) Trail.  He told us of this trail because he
wanted to make sure we knew how to say it.  It seems that one of his past
students thought it was the Jism Trail.
Cheryl
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From: tim@iss.nus.sg (Tim Poston)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Clinton
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:06:17 GMT

bjmccall@cco.caltech.edu (Benjamin John McCall) writes:
: BLAME ME - I VOTED FOR CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: 
: But you also have to give me some credit if Clinton ends up doing some
: good (which you all see as so unlikely)...........
Only if they agree (a) to call it good
(they have their own ideas about what _is_ good)
and (b) when something occurs that is agreed to be good
[literate school-leavers, to take an unlikely example]
that it was done by him, rather than market forces or
the delayed fruiting of the reagan bush.

Are (a) and (b) likely?

Does the Pope shit in the woods?




Why has nobody suggested that in Clinton's first 100
days he should invite John Major over for a meal,
and have him shot?
I know he's cutting weapons budgets,
but one BB pellet should suffice.
One small step for the White House Iron Guard,
one sigh of relief for the British.
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From: tim@iss.nus.sg (Tim Poston)
Subject: Re: U.N. Rehash
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
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Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:46:07 GMT

werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner) writes:
: > Furthermore since our government has commited acts of aggression also, and
: > we seem to have nuclear weapons, does this mean that any nation that disagrees
: > with us has the right to bomb us?  
: 
: Maybe if we invaded Canada or Mexico or Cuba.
Hey, two out of three isn't bad;
the Alamo was the US grabbing Mexican territory
(because Mexico wouldn't let the white trash who settled there own slaves)
and the Bay of Pigs was Kennedy's finest hour.

Can somebody tell me how many Latin American countries the US
has _never_ invaded?  Please distinguish between
"never landed troops" and "never even sent a gunboat".

Louisiana and Alaska were purchased,
and the thirteen states acquired by well justified revolt.
What other parts of the USA were acquired other than
by grabbing territory from tribal peoples or
colonial powers, by force and biological warfare?

Notice how events in Cuba etc. are always described in the US
as "in our back yard"; a pathological inability to distinguish
one's own back yard from the neighbour's garden.

This game of identifying assorted leaders with Hitler
is pretty dumb; it's mainly a form of yelling,
not a form of argument.
But once the game is being played,
I wish that North Americans could imagine how easily
Uncle Sam is seen by his neighbors as a landgrabbing killer.

  "Oh wad some pow'r the giftie gie us
   Tae see ourselves as others see us."
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From: megazone@coal.WPI.EDU (MegaZone)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords,alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: World history (sort of)
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:56:59 GMT
Organization: WPI Discordian Society, Undocumented Cabal
NNTP-Posting-Host: coal.wpi.edu

You know... I REALLY try not to feel superior... Really I do... Sometimes
though examples of how pitiful some of my fellow humanoids really are makes
it very hard...

Sigh... Where did they go anyway?  Dannye Quaylee Highe Schoole?

Be afraid, be very afraid.... (It'd be a lot more humorous if it wasn't
true... Time or Newsweek had a 'nerd' test a few years back... A bunch or
questions easy to obscure... If you got like half of them you were supposedly
above average... I got over 90%, and I wasn't trying... I ranked far above
what was considered a nerd... And I don't think I'm all that bright...)

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From: burke@vxdesy.desy.de (Stephen Burke)
Subject: Re: CLINTON-FAMILY
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:18:47 GMT

In article <1jpp8lINNd18@news.gac.edu>, csteffen@hotspur.gac.edu (Craig P Steffen) writes:
> for that sort of thing?   I don't know about anyone else, but I would find  
> it rather intimidating to ask out the daughter of President.  And what is  
> she going to say?  "Sure, I'd love to, Mark!  Pick me up at the back gate,  
> the guards will let you in."  She might be the nicest person in the world,  
> but it would be kind of annoying to go out with someone who had the secret  
> service guarding her every move to make sure that she wasn't kidnapped.

Well, the Queen's offspring have gone through that sort of thing, and look at
how well-balanced they are ...

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