HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: daborton@novell.com (David A. Borton)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:11:57 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1992Nov13.231920.26132@novell.com> mcollins@db (Marty Collins) writes:
>
>I believe that this cannot ever be answered completely. I myself had
>an experience not too long back that blows my mind. Everybody seems
>to say that if you are looking to hard for a partner you will come
>off to obvious and you will fail.
>
>I believe this to be so true.
>
>I went to a popular Night Spot the other weekend completely oblivious
>to the female surroundings. Yea I looked at some of the more attractive
>women but I really wasn't paying attention at all. I was enjoying
>a nice evening out with friends when WAM!!!
>
>I was introduced to a very attractive female. I still did not think at
>all about trying to hit on her or take her home. I was considerate,
>interested in what she said and non-annoying. We began to flirt with
>each other and one thing led to another. I was definitely turned on
>by her and she was turned on by me. By the end of the night it was
>obvious there was something going on between us and it was going to 
>stop at the bar.
>
>Also having two women hitting on you at the same time seems to help.
>I quess the person I was introduced to felt quite intriqued by it all.
>
>Now this may never happen again but I believe that all DOGS have their
>day.

Well, Marty, if we all had ultra-suede dog suits and your easy nonchalance, we
wouldn't be desperately seeking pointers on this forum <sigh>.  I too was at a 
VERY similar popular Night Spot, but I was far from oblivious to the female environment.  In fact, I was unabashedly cat-hunting.  In fact, if I am not 
mistaken, I saw you there, which would make it a controlled experiment.  Funny,
but I had a hard time even gettting a decent conversation going with any of
those very same felines.  Of course, I left alone.  What can we learn from this?
"If at first you don't succeed, stop trying"?  or "let the hunter become the
hunted" or ...  Perhaps the cat can sense and thus avoid the hunting dogs.
Here am I sitting in a tin can...
From: elau@berlioz.nsc.com (Eugene Lau)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: looking for women, looking for men...
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:56:12 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation, Santa Clara

In article <27523@dog.ee.lbl.gov> veklerov@spindle.ee.lbl.gov (eugene veklerov) writes:
>In article <1ecfirINNrgk@overload.lbl.gov> asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky) writes:
>
>> This discussion about babies and puppies to attract women or books or
>> whatever to attract men, seems pretty ridiculous to me.  If some guy
>> has a puppy and he seems attractive and interesting to me, I might
>> use the puppy as an excuse to talk to him, but then without the puppy
>> I might find an excuse to talk to him anyway.  If he looks like a
>> loser, then I won't talk to him no matter how cute the puppy is.
>
>That sounds almost like the following statement.  If a product is good,
>people will buy it anyway.  If it is not, nobody will buy it and
>no amount of advertisement will change that.
>
>A simple fact of life is that, as far as new products are concerned,
>the marketing strategy is 80% of their success.
>
>Eugene Veklerov

poor analogy.  the product is the guy.  what the guy does to enhance his looks
(eg. hair style, clothes, ...) is part of the marketing.  going to the park
and bringing a dog is the other part of the marketing.  so if a product is
good, and it's packaging/image is good, then people will at the park.

eugene
(eugene lau, the other eugene)
From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Filk Reminder
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:13:18 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

>In article <lg1g29INN3aa@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> carole@rembrandt.Eng.Sun.COM (Car
o
>le Parker) writes:
>
>>
>>What: A Filk
>>
>
>What's a "Filk"?
>
>Craig R. Saunders, crs@sybase.com
>--
>Craig R. Saunders, gaia!crs, x8521

	I asked the same question in this group and got no answer. But I did
get a plausible explanation last friday at a party: Apparently Filk is
same as "folk" but it was somehow misspelled "filk" in a sci-fi novel
in the 50's or 60's, and the spelling got stuck, and people started to use it
as such. So a 'filk' is probably a folk music get together or something.

	Now i want to find out which novel it was that started this. [I cant
help it. My mind wants to become a sponge and I have no control over it :-)].
My source at the party couldnt tell me. So any help on that is appreciated...

-----
/bruce				By the time you swear you are his,
deadhead@cup.portal.com			Shivering and sighing,
				And he vows his passion is
BGBC, and feeling pretty		Infinite, undying --
smug about it.			Lady, make a note of this:
					One of you is lying.  --Dorothy Parker
From: smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM (Nina S. Smith - SunSoft Product Marketing)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Comdex
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:38:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: wesson

In article 5693@netcom.com, bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:

>Just think of it.....
>130,000 nerds all together in Las Vegas at the same time.

Ooooohhhhh . . . scawy . . . vewy scawy!!!

-- Nina
From: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: looking for women, looking for men...
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:07:55 GMT
Reply-To: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux5.lbl.gov

This discussion about babies and puppies to attract women or books or
whatever to attract men, seems pretty ridiculous to me.  If some guy
has a puppy and he seems attractive and interesting to me, I might
use the puppy as an excuse to talk to him, but then without the puppy
I might find an excuse to talk to him anyway.  If he looks like a 
loser, then I won't talk to him no matter how cute the puppy is.

And to the guy who thought that reading made someone boring, I've got
news for you -- readers and non-readers don't mix too well in the
long run, so to each his/her own.  
-- 
"In nature there are no rewards or punishments, only consequences"

Asya Kamsky	      e-mail: asya@ux5.lbl.gov                   Go Red Sox
"In order to command you must first learn to submit" - chinese fortune cookie
From: dmax@uts.amdahl.com (Max Goff)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:54:46 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Some of my favorites:

1.  Hang out next to the Ladies room in restraunts
2.  Linger around the Feminine Napkin display
	at Safeway 
3.  Go to Women's conferences
4.  Post in alt.personals
5.  Sell magazine subscriptions door to door
6.  Call one of the 900 numbers listed
	in Trelis
7.  Take out an ad in the Merky news
8.  Go on long shopping excursions at
	Victoria's Secret
9.  Take a class in ballroom dancing
10. Buy a red corvette

...always seems to work for me.  ;-)

-- 
=============================================================================
Max K. Goff				Phone:  (408)746-8722
Amdahl Corp.        			Fax:    (408)746-7095
MS316					email:  dmax@amdahl
1250 Arques Ave
PO Box 3470
Sunnyvale, Ca.  94088-3470
=============================================================================
From: wjc00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Meeting Women & Pizza
Date: 21 Nov 92 02:13:09 GMT
Reply-To: wjc00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


In article <15584@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
responds in a rather Orwellian fashion:

>In article <26436@megatest.UUCP> jlacki@megatest.UUCP (Jeff Lacki) writes:
>
>|Ive been here for two years after moving from Chicago.  I love it here,
>|however I do find it extremely difficult to meet women.  Most of the
>|women that I have met are either married, engaged to be married, or
>|have a SO already.
>|
>|Just where ARE the good women these days!?
>
>The natives Californians have got them hidden away.  We release a few from
>time to time.  Since you've only been here for two years we're still watching
>you and it might still be awhile before we release a few in your general
>direction.  The final test is if you can eat a pizza with pineapple and ham
>on it and avoid saying "In Chicago we had real pizza".
>
>Be patient.

Originally from Chicago...I've been here in CA for 5 years and I still
haven't been able to bring myself to eat one of those pizza's...As for the
women...Don't look so hard, something will head your way!!!!

Bill Corona...with fond memories of Uno's on Wabash
--
 Willam Corona  / "Blood makes noise...it's a \ '92 Suzuki Katana 750
 Amdahl Corp.   \ ringing in my ears..."     "/"Life is what happens while
 Sunnyvale, CA. / wjc00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com   \ making other plans."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bruce@StarConn.com (Bruce Michael Roberts)
Subject: None of you know who I am so what?
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:51:36 GMT

I plan on having a little sing-a-long get together at my place on Sunday
afternoon.

I will be providing the main course.  Bring some  food, musical
instruments and drinks.  If it is warm enough, we can swim or play some
volleyball.

I've already invited some of my friends so I thought why not invite some
more friends on the net.

In order to plan for the amount of food, please email me.  I will send
you details and directions from there for Nov. 22.
From: HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Does your cup runneth over
Date: 19 Nov 1992 15:59:03 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <69781@cup.portal.com>,
DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong) writes:
>        She *likes* him. I mean, it's obvious. :-) Anytime you have a message
>which generates followups, it means you are saying something worthwhile for
>others to comment on. So they either like you, or feel compelled enough to
>write a follow up.
>
>        My messages have never gotten any followups. I dont know why. I mean,
>i shower and everything, and only take garlic in pill form... I guess I post
>with an accent and nobody could understand...:-) but, i perservere.
>

Wrong again.  Bob and I are good friends for anyone who really cares.
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Re: None of you know who I am so what?
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:20:03 GMT

In article 18565@StarConn.com, bruce@StarConn.com (Bruce Michael Roberts) writes:
>I plan on having a little sing-a-long get together at my place on Sunday
>afternoon.
>


It helps to indicate the location.  Narrow it down to say, country, state
and maybe even county or city.  StarConn may be well known to some, but
not all.

---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141
From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: looking for women, looking for men...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:22:51 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

>This discussion about babies and puppies to attract women or books or
>whatever to attract men, seems pretty ridiculous to me.  

	I didnt feel like commenting on the 'puppy scheme' when it was
going so well few days ago... but it kept on bringing the story of Dr.
Faustus to mind as I read the followups.
>
>And to the guy who thought that reading made someone boring, I've got
>news for you -- readers and non-readers don't mix too well in the
>long run, so to each his/her own.  

	It's sorta like a situation where the two people are completely
different (or opposite). It's fun for a while because the novelty of it.
But after the novelty wears off, you better have some important stuff in
common to keep the relationship going.
>-- 
>"In nature there are no rewards or punishments, only consequences"
>
>Asya Kamsky	      e-mail: asya@ux5.lbl.gov                   Go Red Sox
>"In order to command you must first learn to submit" - chinese fortune cookie
---
/bruce
From: merblich@imola.EBay.Sun.COM (Mitchell Erblich user)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Do you know the way to San Jose?
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:55:08 GMT
Reply-To: merblich@imola.EBay.Sun.COM
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: imola.ebay.sun.com


	I know this is dumb, but what is "new nom de net"?

Mitch
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:41:37 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>>smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>>>[someone since lost in the shuffle said:]
>>>>What is TL&EH, please ?
>>>>
>>>True Love and Eternal Happiness (Is there such an animal?) . . . 
>>>
>>Of course there is, Nina.
>>I found it just the other night with the Ferguson Twins, Bambi and Bunni.
>>
>Hmmmm . . . you and John Fereira appear to have a fair bit in common
>with the choice of women -- Swedish Bikini Team and Playboy Playmates
>- perhaps you could teach the net.SO-less guys a thing or too :)
>

What, drooling over beer commercials and Playboy magazines?  I think
I've got that covered already...


-- 
 .------------------------------------------------------------------.
 |  Greg Andrews   |       UUCP: {amdahl,claris}!netcom!gerg        |
 |                 |   Internet: gerg@netcom.COM                    |
 `------------------------------------------------------------------'
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: Re: How to meet women!
Organization: Netcom
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:42:13 GMT

Michael.Gleim@f201.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Michael Gleim) writes:
>You are obviously under the delusion that Dirty Old Manhood requires the
>attainment of some mystical age. However, this turns out not to be the
>case.
>
>Dr. 'A' in his seminal work (The Sensuous Dirty Old Man) presents clear
>and convincing evidence, both historical and anecdotal, that attitude
>rather than age is the requisite criterion. A rather piquant verse from
>the ancients (English Romanticists?) should help you to remember this:

Not according to the IPPE* 1003.1 standard.  According to this standard,
with the given attitude, the person is qualified as:

                < 40 years old    - Pervert
                40->50 years old  - Middle-age crisis
                > 50 years old    - Dirty Old Man (officially)


* IPPE = Institue of Pornographic and Perversion Engineering




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: grant@clarinet.com (Grant Robinson)
Subject: Re: meeting women
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:18:35 GMT

In article <26436@megatest.UUCP> jlacki@megatest.UUCP (Jeff Lacki) writes:
>
>I think that meeting women is much harder now after college than it
>was when I was IN college for obvious reasons.  The one thing that
>I wish there were more of would be women in the computer/engineering
>field.  

As bad as it may be now, it was worse 10 years ago.  And even worse 100
years ago, there were no women, (zero, nil, none) in that particular
field.

>Ive been here for two years after moving from Chicago.  I love it here,
>however I do find it extremely difficult to meet women.  Most of the
>women that I have met are either married, engaged to be married, or
>have a SO already.  

And they don't have any single friends they're trying to set you up with?
Consider yourself lucky.  Wearying of this syndrome, now whenever someone
says "I know this really nice girl...," I just reply "Sorry, not my type."
They don't usually bring it up again.
-- 
Grant Robinson -- ClariNet Communications Corp, Sunnyvale, CA (408)-296-0366
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Does your cup runneth over
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:42:56 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1eh9o7INN3qn@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt) writes:
>In article <69781@cup.portal.com>,
>DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong) writes:
>>        She *likes* him. I mean, it's obvious. :-) Anytime you have a message
>>which generates followups, it means you are saying something worthwhile for
>>others to comment on. So they either like you, or feel compelled enough to
>>write a follow up.
>
>Wrong again.  Bob and I are good friends for anyone who really cares.

Does this mean we have to stop having sex?



ummm.....  was that the R or the F key?
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Does your cup runneth over
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:07:54 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus

In article <1eh9o7INN3qn@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt) writes:
>In article <69781@cup.portal.com>,
>DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong) writes:
>>
>>        My messages have never gotten any followups. I dont know why. I mean,
>>i shower and everything, and only take garlic in pill form... I guess I post
>>with an accent and nobody could understand...:-) but, i perservere.
>
>Wrong again.  Bob and I are good friends for anyone who really cares.

"....we're friends.  Good friends.  Very, very *good* friends.  But Just
Friends."
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
From: veklerov@spindle.ee.lbl.gov (eugene veklerov)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: looking for women, looking for men...
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:55:12 GMT
Reply-To: veklerov@spindle.ee.lbl.gov (eugene veklerov)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.112.82

In article <1efc9iINNaui@overload.lbl.gov> asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky) writes:
>In article <27523@dog.ee.lbl.gov> veklerov@spindle.ee.lbl.gov (eugene veklerov) writes:
>>In article <1ecfirINNrgk@overload.lbl.gov> I (Asya Kamsky) write:

>>> I might find an excuse to talk to him anyway.  If he looks like a
>>> loser, then I won't talk to him no matter how cute the puppy is.
>>
>> That sounds almost like the following statement.  If a product is good,
>> people will buy it anyway.  If it is not, nobody will buy it and
>> no amount of advertisement will change that.
> 
> No, the analogy would be that if the product is bad, no matter how well
> you market it, I won't consume it.

Well, there are those who look for Cadilacs and they should not waste
their time on Toyotas.  And there are those who can't afford Cadilacs.
Hey, they even managed to sell a few Yugos in this country.  That's
the law of supply and demand.

This is not to say that the supply and demand are always equal in every
category.

Eugene Veklerov
From: HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Do you know the way to San Jose?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:28:47 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov20.225128.15196@netcom.com>,
desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne) writes:


> Yea, get a life, return key and new nom de net.
>
>

Thanks for the advice, it should come in handy.

The Seahag
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: mcollins@db (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: meeting women
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:31:19 GMT

obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien) writes:
: ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley) writes:
: >
: >So here's the problem, I know where there are women and most of you guys
: >out there know where the men are, maybe we should define what we mean
: >when we say 'good women' and 'good men'.  Because somewhere out there,
: >we are missing each other.
: >
: 
: NOW, we're seeing some progress!  This is very good.  I believe this is
: even cause for a celebration, gathering, or in the 'local' terminology,
: a boink!!
: 
: Rather than fill the bandwidth with opinions, checklists, concepts, or
: (ecch!) questionnaires, I propose that someone (I *wish* I could) take
: this as the seed of a gathering of some kind.
: 
: I *think* I'm a 'good man' and I know I'd like to meet 'good women', but
: the only qualification, IMO, is the opinion of the person you would hope
: to impress.  So if we find a time and place for those 'good' folks who are
: on the net or connected as Adryenn's friends are, then we could meet, talk,
: and decide for ourselves.

Well with all the talk of pizza I would suggest Romona's Pizza in 
Palo Alto for starts and then taking a mosy to Baronies Cafe In Menlo
Park, which happens to be right next to an excellent bookstore Keplers.

: 
: 	With the approaching holidays, I keep reading all sorts of
: articles implying that I, or other somewhat lonely singles, am at risk of
: serious depression, so there's no time to waste!
: 
: Adryenn, I know you were not offering to coordinate an event, but would you
: consider it?
: 
: 	Bob
: --

--
	   A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.

   Marty Collins	       				U2 
   Product Support                                      Tryin to throw your
   NOVELL, INC.  San Jose, CA.				arms around the world.
   mcollins@novell.com   or
   Marty_Collins@SJF.Novell.COM
   1-800-NETWARE
From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: meeting women
Keywords: stealth.sig
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:23:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley) writes:
>
>So here's the problem, I know where there are women and most of you guys
>out there know where the men are, maybe we should define what we mean
>when we say 'good women' and 'good men'.  Because somewhere out there,
>we are missing each other.
>

NOW, we're seeing some progress!  This is very good.  I believe this is
even cause for a celebration, gathering, or in the 'local' terminology,
a boink!!

Rather than fill the bandwidth with opinions, checklists, concepts, or
(ecch!) questionnaires, I propose that someone (I *wish* I could) take
this as the seed of a gathering of some kind.

I *think* I'm a 'good man' and I know I'd like to meet 'good women', but
the only qualification, IMO, is the opinion of the person you would hope
to impress.  So if we find a time and place for those 'good' folks who are
on the net or connected as Adryenn's friends are, then we could meet, talk,
and decide for ourselves.

	With the approaching holidays, I keep reading all sorts of
articles implying that I, or other somewhat lonely singles, am at risk of
serious depression, so there's no time to waste!

Adryenn, I know you were not offering to coordinate an event, but would you
consider it?

	Bob
--
Newsgroups: ba.singles