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From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: ANSI ESC sequence, how??
Date: 29 Dec 92 05:25:14 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <i3BDwB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> mshapiro@netlink.cts.com (Michael Shapiro) writes:
>mjb@netcom.com (Martin Brown) writes:
>> I have ansi.sys installed, and have received some ansi msg's that seem to be
>> working.  Now that I want to do some ansi coding, I can't figure out how to
>> actually enter (which keys to push) the 'esc' part of the sequence.  I'm tryi
>> to do this at the command prompt.
>> 
>> Take for instance changing the screen background to blue.  The manual shows:
>> 
>>      ESC[44m
>> 
>He then asks how you can send an ANSI ESC sequence to the screen....

You can enter ansi sequences directly from the prompt by putting them
in the prompt :-)   That is, you can set an environment variable to tell
ms-dos (well, command.com, really :) what prompt to display - for example,

   prompt yes, mistress? 
or 
   set prompt=yes, mistress?

will cause ms-dos to display

   yes, mistress?

whenever it's waiting for you to tell it what to do. There are also 
some predefined codes you can use - like $p for the current path, or
$g for a greater-than, or $v for the os version, or $t for the time,
or $E for the ESCape character :)

The prompt I set on bootup is:

$e[0;60;"smartdrv /c";13p$e["{";"{"p$e[1;33mDOS! $e[32;40m$p$e[0;37m$g

This remaps F2 to flush smartdrv, remaps the curly brace (I was in 
product support and once in a blue moon someone would call about this
- so I packed my prompt with ready examples :) sets up high-intensity 
yellow, writes DOS! , then changes color to green, writes the current
drive/path, and changes to low-intensity white for the greater-than.

If you're using windows 3.1, you can have a different prompt when at
a prompt under windows by setting a winpmt variable. I have:

set winpmt=$e[1;32m[win] $e[36;40m$p$e[35m$g

F2 still works, btw - any key remappings stay til you cancel them.
Colors don't always return after starting another program, tho, so
it's useful to have them in the prompt.

You can also put escape keys into a file using edit or edlin. Naturally
I'm blanking on how to do it with edit, with edlin you enter ctrl characters
by using ctrl-v instead of ctrl-. Since esc is also ctrl-[, you'd enter
ctrl-v,[. To enter ctrl-c, it's ctrl-v,C (not ctrl-v,c).

Edit...enter ctrl-p, ESC; or ctrl-p, ctrl-[; or ctrl-p, alt-027.

-jen
 I'm not speaking for microsoft, I've just used DOS too much.

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols)
Subject: Re: Using HD disks as DD disks
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 00:58:47 GMT

In article <1hd6sbINNsvq@agate.berkeley.edu> tedcrum@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ted Crum) writes:
>
>Could the original poster be running afoul of one of the unformattable
>format programs? I find these odious. To get the convenience of a dos 5.0
>format without unformat files being written, I use Norton 4.51 safe format
>using the "dos format" option. It readily formats hd 3-1/2's to ld. So will
>dos 3.3 if you remember the options to use. I bet 5.0 works if you can
>defeat the unformat provision.

All it takes is a "/U" switch to block the saving of unformat data.  I
think the problem goes deeper than this (he had, after all, tried
erasing the disks with a magnet, which would leave no old format to
save).

I've seen several theories posted and exchanged some email with the
original poster, but I've yet to see any explanation (including my own)
that stands up under close scrutiny.  I don't have any low density
drives to play with at the moment, but I know that I've used 5.25" HD
disks in old 360K drives in the past.  The only problem came when I
tried to reformat them back to 1.2MB -- I had to bulk-erase them first.

Bob Nichols
AT&T Bell Laboratories
rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jdg41088@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Pickaxe)
Subject: Re: Using zmodem with Telix
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 07:51:07 GMT

nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:

>I just downloaded Telix which seems to work pretty well.
>Especially nice is the ease with which I can send files
>from Sun to Msdos machine via Zmodem.  Trouble is: I can't
>do the reverse.

>Is this because I'm working with an unregistered version of
>Telix 3.20, is it a bug, or am I just plain stupid?

Try rz -e. I don't know why, but it fixed this problem with my sequent machine
running dynix 3.1.1.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: umeier@pax.eunet.ch (Urs Meier)
Subject: Conner HD in Compaq BIOS tables patch?
Keywords: BIOS Patch 
Organization: EUnet Login/Mailbox Service
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:51:11 GMT

I tried to install a Conner HD in my Compaq. Unfortunately this type is not
supported by the BIOS. I tried to patch the disk parameter table but it did
not work. I think there is a BIOS CRC but I don't know yet how to calculate
it and where it is placed.

Thank you for your help.

Urs.Meier@DM.RS.CH
From: tedcrum@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ted Crum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Using HD disks as DD disks
Date: 24 Dec 1992 20:34:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
Keywords: disks, disk drive



Could the original poster be running afoul of one of the unformattable
format programs? I find these odious. To get the convenience of a dos 5.0
format without unformat files being written, I use Norton 4.51 safe format
using the "dos format" option. It readily formats hd 3-1/2's to ld. So will
dos 3.3 if you remember the options to use. I bet 5.0 works if you can
defeat the unformat provision.

-Ted Crum
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: evans1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Dan Evans)
Subject: Re: A Frank Discussion on Piracy (Flames, Anyone? :-P )
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:15:35 GMT

In article <BzFoB7.L5y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dlanglan@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (super-dave) writes:
>Richard_Robb@mindlink.bc.ca (Richard Robb) writes:
>
>
>>But: aren't you worried that the virii are usually spread by piratii?
>
>Richard,
>
>You raise a good point about being taken advantage of by software/hardware
>companies.  However, your second point is a popular myth that needs to be
>refuted.  Yes, the pirating underworld does (every so often) suffer from a
>virus infected program, but the penalties in the pirate community are
>severe for those distributing it.

When I first started dealing with the net I was amazed with the speed that
news of an infected file gets around. And the quick response of the ftp
administrators to delete the files.  Special thanks to Keith, Timo, and all
you guys too numerous to mention.  


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From: miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: question about DOS 5 system bit
Date: 3 Jan 93 11:03:42 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I'm using DOS 5 and I inadvertently cleared the system bit on all my
files, including, of course, the DOS hidden files.

Will this do any harm?  (My DOS manual says only "You should reserve
[the system bit] for DOS")

-Ken
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opinions are my own      | insipientibus debitor sum
From: ez003045@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (James E. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: IBM XT upgrade
Date: 31 Dec 92 04:30:56 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I believe you can put a 14 mhz crystal in for below $10 if you decide to
go with the V20...  That option may not work always though--I can't remember
right now, but I have some 411 at work, so mail me if you're thinking about
that option...

jel


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: rice@cray.com (Jonathan Rice)
Subject: Re: A Frank Discussion on Piracy (Flames, Anyone? : -P )
Reply-To: rice@zizania.cray.com
Distribution: usa
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:10:42 CST

jdp@osric.cs.odu.edu (JD Powell) writes:

>...and lenient return policies of the vendors they deal with.  Please post 
>the names of these vendors for the rest of us....  Who are the good guys?

Egghead Discount Software will accept returns of opened software.  I think
the limit is 30 days.  I've gone through as many as four competing products,
trying them each for a week or two before settling on one, and had no
trouble at all returning the rejects.  They're usually curious about what you
didn't like, but it's not a matter of having to justify the return.

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From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Viruses, viruses!
Keywords: Virus Stoned
Date: 1 Jan 93 20:49:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1993Jan1.012522.24110@Princeton.EDU> bathurst@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Bruce Bathurst) writes:
>In article <1htpooINN2jp@crcnis1.unl.edu> vporguen@unlinfo.unl.edu
>(victor porguen) writes:
>
>>The Gipsy Scholar (Bruce Bathurst, bathurst@phoenix.princeton.edu),
>>writes:
>
>That's GYPSY!

Or, maybe "tipsy."  (It is that time of year, after all.)

Bob Nichols
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 17:18:16 PST
From: <HARVEY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: MouseSystems Mouse Driver

Try Mouse Systems
(510) 683-0617    BBS
(510) 656-1117    tech Support


harold
Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.misc:6776 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:16226
From: gwc@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Greg F Walz Chojnacki)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Question about Gateway modem vs Boca Modem
Date: 30 Dec 1992 20:43:08 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: gwc@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: gwc@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Dec30.093406@mycro.UUCP>, by scott@mycro.UUCP (Scott C. Sadow):
> 
>    I am looking at buying a 14.4 modem, and have narrowed it down to
> either the modem from Gateway or a Boca Research modem. Both are about
> $200. The Gateway has the advantage of being from Gateway - I have had
> very good luck with them. (I know about the first release of the modem -
> it had problems and was recalled. I recall reading that the newest version
> is good, though)  The Boca modem is from the same people who made my VGA
> card (1024x768x256, tseng 4000) and have not had any problems with it, nor
> has anyone in my office.
>
There was some discussion about modems a couple of weeks ago. About the only
thing I remember is that the BOCA lacked a UART. I can't tell you what the
practical consequence of that is (can someone, please?).  However, I bought
a used Boca 14.4 Kbaud FAX/modem and so far, no complaints.

Greg

P.S. A summary would be most welcome.

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Faq style question, serial ports...
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:43:50 GMT

In <1992Dec31.150440.25787@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters) writes:

>Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I've not read this group before...

>I have a PC with 2 serial ports on the motherboard, and a 
>2400 bps modem (internal).

>My current setup is :

>Com1 (9pin)	-	Mouse driver
>COM2 (25)	-	disabled (in the CMOS setup)
>Modem		-	COM2

>I'd like to be able to use the 25 pin COM2, plus use the internal 2400 modem.

>I FTP a lot of files for my old commodore stuff, and would rather use the 
>25 pin serial to transfer to it rather than linking the two systems via modem
>(which I have done).

>The internal modem can be set to com1 thru com4.  The two built in ports are
>fixed at com1 and com2.

Set the modem to COM3 and IRQ2.  Tell your comm software what to
expect.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: mjb@netcom.com (Martin Brown)
Subject: ANSI ESC sequence, how??
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:52:36 GMT

I have ansi.sys installed, and have received some ansi msg's that seem to be
working.  Now that I want to do some ansi coding, I can't figure out how to
actually enter (which keys to push) the 'esc' part of the sequence.  I'm trying
to do this at the command prompt.

Take for instance changing the screen background to blue.  The manual shows:

     ESC[44m

What keys do I actually hit to get the ESC (or is it ESC[ ?) part of the line.
If I hit the Esc key, I get a  \ followed by a cr/lf, so that the 44m comes on
the next line.  I hit return, and DOS says command not recognized.

I believe I've tried all permutations ctrl,alt,shift,-Esc with no joy.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanx!

Have a HAPPY HOLIDAY!!
 
-- 

                                   - mjb -

                                mjb@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: ANSI ESC sequence, how??
From: mshapiro@netlink.cts.com (Michael Shapiro)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 18:43:05 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

mjb@netcom.com (Martin Brown) writes:

> I have ansi.sys installed, and have received some ansi msg's that seem to be
> working.  Now that I want to do some ansi coding, I can't figure out how to
> actually enter (which keys to push) the 'esc' part of the sequence.  I'm tryi
> to do this at the command prompt.
> 
> Take for instance changing the screen background to blue.  The manual shows:
> 
>      ESC[44m
> 

He then asks how you can send an ANSI ESC sequence to the screen.
Actually, it's kind of hard with the standard commands, but you can
add an ESC.COM utility program which works like ECHO but precedes
the message with an ESC code.  To create the utility program, capture
the text shown below to some file, say ESC.SCR.  Then edit the file
to remove all the lines except those between the equals sign (=) lines.
Then run the command DEBUG, using ESC.SCR as input, with the command:
     c> DEBUG <ESC.SCR
This should produce the file ESC.COM which you can use to send ESC 
sequences.  For example, to change the command shown above, type:
     C>ESC [44m
The script file to create ESC.COM is:
=======================================================================
n esc.com
a
mov bx,0080
add bl,[bx]
mov byte ptr [bx+1],24
mov byte ptr [0081],1b
mov dx,0081
mov ah,09
int 21
int 20
             {Blank line; delete this text.}
rcx
0017
w
q
=======================================================================

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: mstoer@sol.UVic.CA (Marcell Stoer)
Subject: PC programming, Video and Other
Originator: mstoer@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 02:46:02 GMT


I am looking for a book or some other source of information on programming
PC hardware, specifically Video and possibly using DMA for fast data
acquisition and such.  I have Norton's GUIDE to the IBM PC and PS/2, but
I am interesting in programming the hardware directly and not through the
ROM BIOS.  I have checked my libraries and come up with nothing, ditto with
the local bookstores.  I do not want to use assembler, I can do everything
assembler can do in C ( or just use in-line assembley code, no flames
please.)  Has anyone come across a book or such that is "useful" ?

email or post, whichever seems appropriate.
thanks,
-ms
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Subject: Re: Virus Advice needed
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:00:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <Michel_Gerber.042m@bearsden.UUCP> Michel_Gerber@bearsden.UUCP (Michel Gerber) writes:
>I am sending him McAfee's Virus Scanner and Clean-Up program to check his 
>files and make sure the system is clean, and to check to see if the virus 
>really did come from the California Games disk.  Hopeful he can keep his 
>data safe.

It probably did, judging from your description.  McAffe can kill Stoned
in a matter of seconds.

>I once again would like help tracking down the company EPYX which puts the 
>game out.  The package was shrink wraped at time of purchase, so unless
>Target re-wrapped it, is would have to have come from EPYX.  

I would bet a lot of money that Target re-wrapped it.  Companies aren't known
for spreading viruses (with the exception of Michaelangelo, but that's
another story).  I'm 95% sure that Target re-wrapped that package.  If he
lost information that was important because of the virus, he could
conceviably hold Target responsible.

Anyway, Stoned is one of the first viruses that I know of.  Any anti-viral
package worth the disk it's on can remove it.

Jim
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: nejib@krusty.eecs.umich.edu (Nejib Ben Hadj-Alouane)
Subject: Extender for MSDOS
Organization: UM
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:18:46 GMT

Hello,

I had posted this last week, but did not get any useful responses.
Maybe the gurus are on vacation! So, here it is again. I really
would appriciate any helpful suggestions.

I am working on a large C (Microsoft C) program. I am 
afraid that it might get bigger that 640 K and that I might need
to use an "MS-DOS extender". I am wondering if anybody has experience
with "extenders" that he/she might be willing to share (does the
code need any modifications; speed, this is a real-time application; 
what is the best extender to use). Better, yet
does anyone know how to get around using any "extenders". I appreciate
any help. Please e-mail; if I get enough answers, I will compile and
post a message.


I heard that Farlap has an extender/debugger compatible with MSC. Is
that so? Address, Phone and/or Price, please.

Thanks in advance.
                             --Nejib
From: villalj@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (John Villalovos)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Using HD disks as DD disks
Keywords: disks, disk drive
Date: 24 Dec 92 02:50:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: xanth.cs.orst.edu

In article <1992Dec23.202219.114@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> evans1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Dan Evans) writes:
>In article <jeric.67@berkp.uadv.uci.edu> jeric@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Jeric Woo) writes:
>>I have some high density 3.5" and 5.25" diskettes that I would like to
>>use as low density diskettes.  However, whenever I attempt to format them
>>(using low density drives) I get either the messages "Bad or Invalid Media"
>>or the message "Track 0 Bad, Disk Unusable."
>>
>>Why can't I do so?  Are the any other physical differences between high 
>>density diskettes and low density diskettes (I know that 3.5" HD has a hole
>>at the upper left hand corner, and that maybe HD disks has higher "surface
>>density").  I even ran the diskettes through a magnet before formatting
>>them, but still no luck.  Thanks!
>>

Yes there are physical differences in the media.  The differences are more
apparent on 5.25" diskettes then on 3.5".

>The LD drive heads are larger then the HD heads.  As a result the LD heads
>are reading more then one track at a time on the HD disk. Track 0 isn't
>bad, it's just smaller then the LD drive is capible of reading it.

I don't believe that is correct.  If you look at a floppy disk they aren't
composed of tracks of magnetic media.  The media is a continuous (sp?)
coating on the disk.

>You can format the HD disks in the LD drive but you must either use virgin
>disks (aka. never been formatted as HD) or completely erase the treacks
>from the HD disk before formatting it in the LD drive.
>
>You may get away with using a real strong magnet, a disk erasing utility
>sush as bulkeras from copyiipc version 6 will definately do the trick.
>I've trashed disks before that had the "Track 0 Bad, Disk Unusable."
>when I tryed formatting them. Bulkeras fixed it up for reformatting again.

Usually with 5.25" disks you will end up with problems.  3.5 disks you might
be able to get away with it.

Later,
-- 
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Certified Netware Engineer
villalj@xanth.cs.orst.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Two new Telix questions
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:52:43 GMT

Now that I can use Zmodem on Telix, I'm seriously thinking
of buying a license.  But there are 2 snags, one of them major.

The petty one is that I've been spoiled by MS-Kermit to scroll
back with the PageUp key.  Telix requires Alt-B first.  Small
but annoying.  Any workaround?

The serious one is that the vertical arrows under MS-Kermit serve
to recall earlier commands which can be repeated or edited.  Not
so with Telix, at any rate not under VT102 emulation.  Any sugges-
tions?

Thanks in advance.

Norman Miller


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: evans1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Dan Evans)
Subject: Re: Using HD disks as DD disks
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:22:19 GMT
Keywords: disks, disk drive

In article <jeric.67@berkp.uadv.uci.edu> jeric@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Jeric Woo) writes:
>I have some high density 3.5" and 5.25" diskettes that I would like to
>use as low density diskettes.  However, whenever I attempt to format them
>(using low density drives) I get either the messages "Bad or Invalid Media"
>or the message "Track 0 Bad, Disk Unusable."
>
>Why can't I do so?  Are the any other physical differences between high 
>density diskettes and low density diskettes (I know that 3.5" HD has a hole
>at the upper left hand corner, and that maybe HD disks has higher "surface
>density").  I even ran the diskettes through a magnet before formatting
>them, but still no luck.  Thanks!
>
>Jeric
>

The LD drive heads are larger then the HD heads.  As a result the LD heads
are reading more then one track at a time on the HD disk. Track 0 isn't
bad, it's just smaller then the LD drive is capible of reading it.

You can format the HD disks in the LD drive but you must either use virgin
disks (aka. never been formatted as HD) or completely erase the treacks
from the HD disk before formatting it in the LD drive.

You may get away with using a real strong magnet, a disk erasing utility
sush as bulkeras from copyiipc version 6 will definately do the trick.
I've trashed disks before that had the "Track 0 Bad, Disk Unusable."
when I tryed formatting them. Bulkeras fixed it up for reformatting again.
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