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From: aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu (My name is Andre...)
Subject: AutoCocker
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 15:35:15 EDT

Hey all... I'm thinking about getting a new gun.. Yeah, I know I said I
really liked my .68 special, but I'm thinking of getting a new gun.  I
still am keeping my Special, so all of you Illustrator pinheads can't say
that I said my share about the Special, and am now sneaking out of it.. :}
I just want a second gun so I can have a little variation... I've been
looking at the Bud Orr AutoCocker... I've fooled around with a Sniper II
and was reasonable impressed with its accuracy.  I was just wondering
if the AutoCocker was comparable accurate, or if it suffered from the
same problem that all semis do, which is turbulence resulting from the
larger powertube...(Of course the new Vector made by Air Power supposedly
solves that problem with some special cycling system, but costs 600 bucks,
so I don't think I'll be play testing that one any time soon..)

If anyone has FIRST HAND knowledge of the AutoCocker, I'd appreciate getting
some info on it.  I'd like comments to include:

	  - How accurate it is
          - Does it have any fundamental problems in its semi-action
	  - Does it have an external velocity adjuster, or do you have
	    to deal with springs?
          - Does it work at least OK in the cold?
	  - Gas efficiency
	  - Weight 
	  - Ergonomics.. Does it feel all right to hold?
	  - Anything else you can comment on.

If you've only heard info about the AutoCocker from your mother's, friend's
brother's, cousin't, leperous dog, then please don't comment, but if you
have anything that you are pretty sure of to comment on, please do! :}
Thanx...

 < ANDRE >








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Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: stavros@agora.rain.com (Steve Culliton)
Subject: Radar Chrono
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:35:36 GMT

Anybody have any experience with that new radar chrono?  Is it any better 
than the chronos on the market now?  TTFN


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From: alejanrd@adrienne.cs.rose-hulman.edu (Raymond D. Alejandro)
Subject: Re: Paintball and alcohol!
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:29:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.135653.54431@cc.usu.edu>, sl1t4@cc.usu.edu (CORKY) writes:
|> 
|> About two weeks ago, a few friends and I discovered a new field, so we went to
|> try it out.  The field was beautiful!!!  Twenty five acres of pure paintball
|> paradise!!!!  Cover was thick yet you could move through it easily and quietly.
|> As the day began, I noticed the field owner drinking a wine cooler, no problem
|> I don't have a problem with people drinking.  But, he began to play after his
|> fourth or fifth wine cooler.  About noon (we started about ten a.m.) he stands
|> up on a log and announces that the field is going to buy beer for the players.
|> I begin to pack up and the field owner comes over to me and says (this is a
|> direct quote to the best that I can remember) "I hope you're not leaving
|> because of the beer, we don't get drunk, we just drink it like soda pop."  Just
|> as those words left his mouth, enough beer came down that each player
|> (excluding my group) could have about ten (10) cans each.
|> 
|> Now we get to the question:  I am curious to know how many people are against
|> mixing alcohol and paintball, and how many do drink while they paintball.
|> If memory serves me right, it is a direct violation of IPPA rules to drink
|> alcoholic beverages while playing paintball...or am I wrong?  Please reply with
|> a post to the board!
|> -- 
|
I don't know about IPPA, but mixing alcohol dn paintball is STUPID.  Anything
that shoots anything at 300-400+ fps can be very dangerous, and we don't need
drunken idiots messing up the already shaky reputation of paintball.  I would
write one of the major paintball magazines about it.  Maybe get the IPPA to
denounce the field (if the field owner was passing out the beer).

Just plain stupid

> 
|> 
|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|> 
|> 					Cory R. Emmertson
|> 					Capt. Team Section 8
|> 					The key to paintball is 
|> 					your mind!!
|> 					In spray and pray...I have no faith!! 
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I prefer the phrase "Accuracy by volume".
Ray
From: em3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Meyhofer)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Cold Weather Adjust..Help
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:25:30 GMT
 <1992Apr14.150114.29337@panix.com>
	<92106.120325U53306@uicvm.uic.edu>
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I always hear about these cold weather adjustments....What are they??
    Please place any info
                                                         thanks
From: sl1t4@cc.usu.edu (CORKY)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Guns in the Staging Area
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:13:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <2371@isgtec.isgtec.com>, robert@isgtec.com (Robert Osborne) writes:
> btkuo@remus.rutgers.edu (    Bernie) writes:
>> [...]  All it takes is one drunken
>> idiot to fire his gun in the staging area where people aren't wearing
>> their goggles.
> 
> Speaking of which...
> 
> We played a night game at a field and after one round we were all
> inside a tent talking about the last round.  One of the players set
> down his semi-auto and the trigger caught on his duffle bag.  It fired
> 3 times before he got control of the gun.  The guy who got hit in the
> chest wasn't wearing goggles and almost killed the bozo, literally.
> 
> The really scary part was after we bawled him out for bringing a loaded
> gun into the staging area about 6 other guys sheepishly unloaded their
> guns!
> 
> Rob.
> --
> Robert A. Osborne   ...!uunet.ca!isgtec!robert or robert@isgtec.com
-- 
WHY THE HELL WASN'T THERE A BARREL PLUG IN THE SEMI!!!!!!!!!??????????
I was refing at a local field this weekend, and I must have gotten mad at
the same ten or so players for breaking some sort of safety rule.  Granted that
about 5 or 6 of them were newbies, and didn't know better, but the scarry part
is that the guys I gave the most repeated warnings to were the VERY expirenced 
players.  I had to turn one guy over to the field operator who is also his team
captain.  I hope that the I'm expirenced I don't need to think attitude that I
saw last weekend and displayed in the above letter isn't a standard around the
country. People that so obviously disobey safety rule should be severly
punished or asked not to grace that particular field anymore.

I am curious as to the severity of the bawling out you gave him!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

					Cory R. Emmertson
					Capt. Team Section 8
					The key to paintball is 
					your mind!!
					In spray and pray...I have no faith!!
					IPPA #4743
					NAPRA---eventually
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: c9109149@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Long live paintball II
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 07:35:22 GMT

	Splat, skirmish, paintball, worrgame
 I want to set up a game in my local area ; Newcastle, Australia.
 Please somebody, post up a good list of everything needed to play ie,
 equipment, cost, min number of players, land required, min ammo etc.
	I am sure other newcomers would be interested.
	Also, does anyone know if there are any major suppliers in Australia,
and where, and if there isn't, how much extra does it cost to get guns sent
over. Oh, and I almost forgot, laws and safety requirements (armour) are an
important consideration.
	Thanks in advance.
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From: alejanrd@victoria.cs.rose-hulman.edu (Raymond D. Alejandro)
Subject: Re: rifled barrels and the like
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:28:53 GMT

A 64" barrel?!?!?!?!?!?!?????

The BARREL was 5 ft. 4 inches, add 4 inches for trigger housing and bolt, another
10 for the 7 oz. CA bottle and you are looking at 6' 6".

That's taller than I am!!  I thought that trying to wield my Pihrana, barrel
extension, and 6 inch silencer was tough (only about 3ft. 3 inches.).

Somehow I think 64" is just a little much for this happy camper.


Ray
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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Re: Paintball and alcohol!
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:01:14 GMT
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY

In article <1992Apr13.135653.54431@cc.usu.edu> sl1t4@cc.usu.edu (CORKY) writes:
>
>Now we get to the question:  I am curious to know how many people are against
>mixing alcohol and paintball, and how many do drink while they paintball.
>If memory serves me right, it is a direct violation of IPPA rules to drink
>alcoholic beverages while playing paintball...or am I wrong?  Please reply with
>a post to the board!
>-- 
Yes, your arguement is correct.  Everyone now and then enjoys a cool one, but
the Paintball field is no place to drink alcohol.  Despite the advances in
safety equipment-it takes only one stupid idiot to open up an opportunity for
an accident.  Nearly of the fields up in my area prohibit the consumption of
alcohol during the games, but none have policies for drinking after the game.
Maybe the field is in the owner's backyard so he has no qualms about drinking.
This should be of great concern as nearly all of the fields require at the
minimum of 20-45 minutes driving.  Having a drunk dressed in camos, carrying
large bore "weapons",silencers,laser sights pulled over by a state trooper
isn't going to contribute positively to the image of paintball.


BZTW, drinking in the morning points to a drinking problem in my book.
-- 
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signature it would contain my name, e-mail address, university, and probably an
interesting little quote.  Remember, this is only a test.
Henryc@panix.com
From: rhw@att.com (Robert Wentworth)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Laser sight (Was: Light Sight 800)
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:24:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <MduVHS_00awVEliUc_@andrew.cmu.edu> tt1m+@andrew.cmu.edu (Troy Franklin Tinsman) writes:
>
>
>As far as laser sights go:  
>
>Yeah, there seems to be a lot of fear among many paintball players that
>they'll go blind if anybody's got a laser sight out there.  This is
>definitely NOT SO.  I have a friend who took his LaserAim LA1 (a fairly
>powerful sight; Range : 500 meters) and directly shined it in his eye
>for somewhere around 40 seconds. He still has the best vision I've seen.

If this isn't a joke it's as stupid a bit of behavior as any I've heard of.
Your retina doesn't really have pain sensors, so you can't easily tell when
you're doing permanent damage to your eye.  Moreover, when you have a blind
spot in your visual field (every one has at least one given the way our eyes
are constructed) your nervous system just makes a guess as to what is in the
part of the visual field you can't see -- so unless you do some careful
testing (or an opthamologist looks directly at your retina) you wouldn't be
likely to realize you'd just added a new blind spot.  However, you would no
longer be able to see anything coming at you from the direction in
question, unless your other eye picked it up.

(Okay, I've really heard of far stupider behavior.  My cousin's husband
was a medic in Desert Storm.  Most of the injuries he heard about were
from things like people shooting their foot because they wanted to see
how close they could come without hitting it, or even one guy who placed
a live grenade under his helmet and then sat on it because he wanted to
see how good his helmet was.)

Sheesh.
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: spring cleaning,tune ups
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:07:44 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: its spring. p-ball season

Spring is a time when grass grows and P-ball fields are crowded.
I have a question about lock-tite residue.  How do I remove dried
lock-tite residue(from last season) from the threads on gun parts?
So far I been using a toothpick to scrap out the larger chunks but
some are in the inner recess of parts too small to access.
I thank you in advance.


-- 
This is a test of the emergency signature file system.  Had this been an actual
signature it would contain my name, e-mail address, university, and probably an
interesting little quote.  Remember, this is only a test.
Henryc@panix.com
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 14:59:26 CDT
From: DMc <U53306@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: PAINTBALL GUNS

I also have interest in the Pirahna.....

likewise, I could not get mail to you.

Please post address to a.s.p. so others interested could contact you as well.

Dave McCarty <u53306@uicvm.uic.edu> <mccarty@earth.eecs.uic.edu>
Paintballer Extraordinaire  (HA!)  F.Y.B.I.P.P.B.  IPPA #5666
From: U53306@uicvm.uic.edu (DMc)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintball and alcohol!
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:03:25 GMT
 <1992Apr14.150114.29337@panix.com>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

A report on this field to the IPPA would probobly be appreciated.

They really want to find out where and who and how unsafe paintball
is played so that they can get such situations fixed.

Dave McCarty <u53306@uicvm.uic.edu> <mccarty@earth.eecs.uic.edu>
Paintballer Extraordinaire  (HA!)  F.Y.B.I.P.P.B.  IPPA #5666
From: pheonix@caen.engin.umich.edu (Douglas John Seman)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Rifling
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:03:09 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Just one quick question to the person who mentioned cleaning a 
barrel with alchohol.  How do you do it?
   We are talking on or near the field here, so how do you manage
to do it without using whole bottles of it on each barrel (esp.
rifled)?  If it is feasible, I would like to know how, it is a
good idea for drying and residue reasons.
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: plt@wasp.eng.ufl.edu (Pete Taylor)
Subject: 68Automag
Reply-To: plt@wasp.eng.ufl.edu (Pete Taylor)
Organization: U of Florida Engineering Comuputing Services
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:59:59 GMT

I saw in the survey that there was a fellow 68Automag owner out there.  I
was wondering if you could send me your e-mail address so that we could 
exchange ideas and thoughts about the Automag.  I am interested in what version
you have and if you have had any problems.

Thanx in advance...

Pete
--
Peter Taylor                    |Paintgun:  68Automag
plt@wasp.eng.ufl.edu            |Martail Art:  Cuong Nhu Oriental Martial Arts
worldmage@maple.circa.ufl.edu   |              Cypress School, U of F
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 09:42:14 CDT
From: DMc <U53306@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Apex Elite Sniper gun
 <1992Apr8.225202.54317@cc.usu.edu>

I likewise agree that if you wish to do the sniper bit, a Bud Orr
sniper II is the way to go.  It gets better range and accuracy (on average)
than any other gun I have fired (which is a reasonably large number).

A sniper should avoid semi-auto's, since the semi option drops BOTH range
and accuracy, plus a high rate of fire is not a real pre-requisite for
a sniper anyhow.

Dave McCarty <u53306@uicvm.uic.edu> <mccarty@earth.eecs.uic.edu>
Paintballer Extraordinaire  (HA!)  F.Y.B.I.P.P.B.  IPPA #5666
From: sl1t4@cc.usu.edu (CORKY)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Mail-order paintball equipment suppliers
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:02:28 MDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Utah State University

In article <12543@umd5.umd.edu>, stephen@snoopy.umd.edu (Tim Stephen) writes:
> Hi,
>    I'm interested in addresses and/or phone numbers of PB equip suppliers.
> If you've had good luck with a company please post. Thanks
> 
I have had wonderful success with I & I Sports in California.  They are very
professional and knowledgeable.  I don't have the add. and phone# near me at
the moment. but if you pick up any APG, they'll be in it.  If you don't have
access to an APG, let me know via email and I'll be happy to get the info for
you!!!!! 
-- 


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

					Cory R. Emmertson
					Capt. Team Section 8
					The key to paintball is 
					your mind!!
					In spray and pray...I have no faith!!
From: sl1t4@cc.usu.edu (CORKY)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Theme Games
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:22:35 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Has anbody ever played in a theme game?  I was reading about on in May's
APG.  Can anybody tell me where any are going to be soon? 


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

					Cory R. Emmertson
					Capt. Team Section 8
					The key to paintball is 
					your mind!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 22:07:01 CDT
From: DMc <U53306@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: rifled barrels and the like
 <1992Apr6.164234.9921@cs.rose-hulman.edu> <0dsOa3i00WBOQ1yK8=@andrew.cmu.edu>

I saw a guy one time who had a 64" brass barrel on his PMI-I.  It was _really_
accurate and had _really_ long range.  he had a hard time trying to find a
64" squeegee though.  about 14" is the right length though...

--Bob Burns - captain team "Jamaican Bob and the Sled Team"

Transcribed by
Dave McCarty ... you all know my .sig
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From: pheonix@caen.engin.umich.edu (Douglas John Seman)
Subject: Network of College Paintball Clubs
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 22:45:04 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

I was sitting here wondering...  Just how many college and university
paintball clubs and organizations are there out there?

Could some of you help me out?  I'm trying to compile a list of
some people I can contact at any college with a club.

Please send me a e-mail message telling me about any you know about
and an adress for someone at each school.  Include real name and
phone number if you like.

I'll get these all in a list and send it back to everyone who sent me
any info.  I'll also anounce the list on the newsgroup here and anyone
who wants a copy can have one (interested persons, sponsors, whoever)

I await your response, and your help to establish a network for 
getting intercollegiate paintball started.

Today we may be just a list, but just think...  NCAA !!!
  (Too much to hope for?  Nah, nothing is too much to hope for!)

pheonix@engin.umich.edu
From: cn0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Craig David Nemecek)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: rifled barrels and the like
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:54:11 GMT
	<1992Apr6.164234.9921@cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I agree that 14" is about the longest that a barrel should be.  Barrel
length is going to change accuracy a lot more than rifling.  I've played
with rifled barrels, and they don't add much to accuracy.  I have a
friend who swears by rifling, but I can't justify rifling.  Upgrading
from 6" to 12" or 14" would be a much better idea.

\|||/     "It's a way of life."
-Craig Nemecek
From: mkb2@po.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: CURIOUS OF NO VOTES
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:59:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: po.mkb2.3
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)

I am curious as to why some people voted 'no' in the survey held in this
group.  Could someone who voted no tell me why?  I just find it hard to
believe that anyone curious enough to read this group would vote 'no' to
a permanant formation.
From: sl1t4@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Apex Elite Sniper gun
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:52:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr8.225202.54317
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Apr9.025915.21708@cs.rose-hulman.edu>, broadhrj@leela.cs.rose-hulman.edu (Robert J. Broadhead) writes:
>   I am getting togtether with a few friends to start up a team (10+ people) and
> we are all shopping for guns.  We have decided to try to put two snipers in the
> group and we are thinking about getting an apex elite but no one has ever fired
> one.  Is their anyone out there who owns one or knows much about them, especially
> if you can try to compare it to the accuracy and range of some of the better
> semi-auto's.(for example a semi with a 14" barrel and a sight).  The main
> question is, "What makes this gun a sniper rifle as opposed to a non-sniper
> rifle?"

I would suggest a Worr Games Product Sniper II.  I have reciently bought one,
and I LOOOOOVE it.  I have a One Armed Bandit and a 16 inch barrel.  I was
playing a mutant and a player was hiding behind an oil barrel showing noting
but his head.  I hit him square in the goggles (only place I could aim) from
about 45-50 yards, and I was shooting up hill!!  The Sniper II is a proven 
gun that is worth the money.  It runs a little less (I think) than an Apex.
It's a great gun, I would recommend it to anybody!!!!


						Cory R. Emmertson
						sl1t4@cc.usu.edu
						The key to paintball is
						your mind!!
From: d1leaf@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik L|fgren)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Piranha L/B or Piranha Rifle
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:08:00 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

What's the difference between a Piranha L/B and a
Piranha Rifle ?? 

I was thinking about buying a L/B but they're not available
here in Sweden so I guess I'll have to stick with a Rifle !!

Also, how competitive is a Trracer compared to the above ??

Sorry about faq questions like this but it's REALLY hard
to get info about PB in Sweden. 

/FRED


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