From: kvivek@tiger.ecn.uoknor.edu (Khanna Vivek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:32:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: constell.1992Nov6.173204.28618
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

hsingh@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Harpreet Singh) writes:

>What about the pain of killing 10,000 Sikhs during the 1984 riots.?
>Did u ever feel any pain for them??.  I really felt that i was part

	I hope that you feel just as strongly about the people killed over the 
years in Punjab. I hope that this is not just hypocritical hype which expresses
sorrow over the death of a Sikh and none over that of a Hindu/Muslim/Christian
etc.


>nation who just kill their own people.  I was there in New Delhi during 
>the riots and I know how i feel.  So u should stop acting so patriotic
>and shut up.  What were u doing during those Riots of 1984??

	I was also there in New Delhi during 1984. I was quite young then and so
were a lot of others. We had offered our services to elders in our colony (both
Sikh and Hindu) to form a citizens volunteer force to protect the Sikhs in our
colony. I was a resident of Greater Kailash -II in New Delhi at the time. I am
quite proud to report Sir, that not one Sikh life was lost in our Colony. That 
was not due to us alone, to be honest. It was a combination of our presence and
good fortune that we were able to be effective. I do not know if we could have held
back too many of the attackers, however.


>There is nothing wrong in asking for KHALISTAN, and God willing we we'll
>get it in my life time.  Why stay in India where u never know when u can

	Are you sure that you believe that. You must know that once you rip a
fabric, no matter how many stitches you use, the fabric can never be put together
again. Furthermore, are you sure about what the problem is? Have you calmly 
analyzed the problem and done something about it? I do not think the solution is
Khalistan. Are you sure that you will not face similar problems down the road.
Some years hence, hindus in Khalistan may form terrorist groups and start demanding
a separate state. What will you do then? Or did you envisage a hindu free Khalistan
Hindus form at least 45% of the population of Khalistan ( if not more). What do 
you plan to do? Exterminate all of these people or perhaps have a situation like
1947 again. Are you prepared for that kind of savagery in the 90's. 


>be killed by the people in power.  Why were there no riots when Rajiv
>Gandu died.???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

	That's a very simple question. Rajeev Gandhi died at about 10:30 pm. The 
people came to know about this only in the morning. And then there was confusion
for quite a long time about who the killers. Then LTTE was held responsible (still
there is confusion about this). Now can you tell the difference between a Tamil and
an person from Karnataka or Andhra Pradesh? No you can't. On the Other hand, you 
can tell a Sikh apart from a hindu or a muslim or a jew etc. Many Sikhs in Delhi
escaped these riots by cutting their hair. Now no one could hurt them.

>Harpreet Singh
>  
	Dear Harpreet do not get me wrong. I do not  feel any anger at you. I have
seen the tremendous loos of lives in New Delhi in 1984. But, I have also seen a 
tremendous loss of lives in Punjab. So many people have died, so many women have lost
their husbands, children lost their parents etc., so many innocent women have been 
raped that one has stopped counting now. 

	Do you remember the Punjab of the 70's. I am a Punjabi (native of Batala in
Gurdaspur). I love Punjab, and my home there.If there were to be a free and fair 
referendum in Punjab, then only a few districts would clearly emerge as favouring
Khalistan.

	Don't you think that instead of this we learn from 1947 and the loss of lives 
thereafter (1985-1992) in the Punjab. Punjab has seen enough blood. Should we not
all get together and form a government that cares for every single Sikh/Muslim/Jew
/Christian/Hindu etc. Therefore, Harpreet, seeing your pain, I would suggest that 
you change your slogan and ask not for a few districts but ask for the entire India.
Let us all in our own separate ways work for a better India where the life/dignity/
property of every citizen is protected and not one person is attacked.

Let me know if you agree to this Harpreet.

								Vivek Khanna