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From: mbb@keps.kodak.com (Maureen Busch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: finger food lunch summary (long)
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:16:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: keps.1992Oct6.141628.2719
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems

In article <LOWRY.92Oct4125931@rotor.watson.ibm.com> lowry@watson.ibm.com (Andy Lowry) writes:
> [keep peanut butter away from toddlers and young children because globs of
> peanut butter present a real choking hazard]

When my kids were smaller, I always diluted the peanut butter with orange
juice.  It tastes a lot better than it sounds!  Anyway, it is one way to
make peanut butter safe for little kids.  Mine both liked it, too.
-- 
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mgaudrea@afit.af.mil (Michele L.D. Gaudreault)
Subject: Cute things [3 yo]
Originator: mgaudrea@wb16
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:39:08 GMT

This morning, as I was just beginning to get dressed...

Marie (urgently!):  Mommy! Mommy!!
Me (pulling clothes on as I hurry out to the kitchen where Marie is
eating breakfast) : What?
Marie (pointing to the picture on the wall calendar):  The
kitty-cat is hiding in the picture, but not the doggy!
Me: Huh?  (There is no cat in the picture, just a collie pup
sitting next to an old hat)
Marie : The kitty-cat is hiding in the picture, but not the doggy!
Me:  Is the kitty hiding under the hat?
Marie: yes! (Still pretty excited about it.)

What an imagination.

Michele
From: sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Constipation - Summary and thanks
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:26:25 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <3984@cvbnetPrime.COM> dmusican@figment.prime.com (Diane S. Musicant) writes:
>
> 
>
>
>First of all I would like to thank everyone who responded to my
>post. It's great to get so much support and know that I'm not 
>alone. 
>
>Here is a summary of everyone's suggestions. Some of these things we
>have either tried and they don't work, or we chose not to do them.
>Most of them, however, we have incorporated into Adele's routine.
>I wanted to list them all for other people's benefit.
>
>	- Corn syrup in the formula ( 1 or 2 Tblsp per 2 oz formula)
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	  I am a little more willing to do this considering it's
>	  pretty common practise with few resulting problems.
>	  As many of you have mentioned, formula already contains
>	  corn syrup.
>	  We give her one bottle a day with corn syrup to keep her
>	  in check. 

This seems like way too much corn syrup for me.  We used about
1 - 2 TSP (teaspoons) per 8 ounce bottle.  We put it in 
every bottle, not just one a day, so the stools were consistently
soft, not a mix of hard and soft sections.
-- 
Susan Gauch
sgauch@flora.ccs.northeastern.edu
From: julian@frey.lbl.gov (julian cortella)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Birth Announcement
Date: 1 Oct 1992 21:42:13 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley, CA USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.81

********************************************
        Jason Reyes Cortella
              7lb 15oz
       Sept. 15, 1992 8:02am
********************************************

Everybody is doing great.  It was an amazingly quick
delivery for a first child.  My wife woke up at about 4:30am
with mild contractions.  Although they never got regular, the
contractions quickly got stronger and more frequent.  We got
to the hospital at 7:00am and had the baby at 8:02 am.  There
was no time for drugs, episitomies, or any sort of intervention.

I missed a big presentation I was supposed to give at 8am that
morning.  Oh well.  The previous night we were joking that it 
would be poor timing if she had the baby Tuesday morning.  It
figures.

We had also gone out that Monday night and bought a bunch of food
to prepare some meals in advance, but when we got home we didn't
feel like cooking them.  It figures.

BTW, she was four days early, so we thought we'd have lots of
time.  It figures.

Well, I've got to get back to work.  It's the only place I
can get some sleep.

-julian-
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: reg@dptg.att.com (51351[efw]-Regina Mackiewicz(MT4799)1374MT)
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Organization: AT&T/NCR, Lincroft, NJ, USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:18:34 GMT


reminds me of the kid i ran into in my student teaching days,

his name was/is George Georgeacropolis.  i asked him if he thought 
it was odd that his first name was included in his last. he said
that he didn't even notice.  maybe it was his standard reply
to that pesky question that everyone asked him.

it's amazing what happened to a lot of immigrant names once they
passed through Ellis Island.

reg

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: kayvan@satyr.Rational.COM (Kayvan Sylvan)
Subject: Re: 2 year old temper tantrums
Organization: Rational, Santa Clara, CA
	<1992Sep17.194325.4832@ra.oc.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:38:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep17.194325.4832@ra.oc.com> jws@hp835.mitek.com (Jeanetha Wemken) writes:

   In article <198jgsINNid8@mizar.usc.edu> Susan Biddlecomb writes: 

   >You'll get used to them ... my daughter. Angelica (who will be three in 
   >November).  Sometimes it seems that the entire last year has been one big 
   >temper tantrum.
   >
   Our daughter will be three in December.  This morning while getting ready
   for work, my husband commented that she had not had a tantrum in a few
   days...  I guess she will grow out of it, after all....  (I hope so.)

   Jeanetha - Mom to Gregg(19) and Laura Jean(2)
   Software Engineer for OpenConnect Systems - Dallas, TX
   jws@hp835.oc.com

There's a great article in Mothering about "tempering" tantrums titled
"What's Good About Temper Tantrums" that you might want to check out.

			---Kayvan
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From: mark@whizbang.wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Survival video 
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 01:15:21 GMT
Organization: The Software Sweatshop, Cleveland, Ohio USA


davids@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (David Schwantner) writes:

!In article <day_kevran-230992170533@130.252.108.211> day_kevran@tandem.com  !  (Kevran Day ) writes:
!>What about the commercial with the guy's head full of spikes or pins?????
!>I don't know what movie it's advertising because *I'm* so disrturbed
!>by it that I turn it off as soon as I can!  How can they get away with
!>showing this stuff?????  It's even worse when you rent a supposedly
!>PG movie and they advertise all the R rated films at the beginning!
!>ARRRRGH!  Why can't I protect myself from this garbage, much less
!>my son?

!I don't mean to be sarcastic or sound critical, but you can protect
!to a greater degree. Get rid of your T.V., buy one that is only a 
!monitor and a VCR player...

I agree.  <whizbang!judy> disagrees.  We now have a GDTV; I think
we were better off without one.

--
Mark W. Schumann/3111 Mapledale Avenue/Cleveland, Ohio 44109-2447 USA
Domain: mark@whizbang.wariat.org                      CIS: 73750,3527
"We're not nuts or anything; I mean *I'm* not nuts." <whizbang!judy>
From: rollo@xylogics.com (Dena Rollo)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: 6-mo-old refuses to nurse
Date: 1 Oct 1992 09:37:37 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


As the mother of the original non-drinker, I just
wanted to add that it's very unlikely your
baby is not getting enough to drink as long
as s/he has at least 2 wet diapers a day and
a moist mouth. So, for anyone out there
who's worried, check with your MD or nurse
by all means, but it's probably just
the way your kid was meant to be (oh, the
"2 wet diapers" is for an older baby
(6 mos. and up), not an infant, BTW).

It's funny how all the things that make you
CRAZY the first time they happen to your
child (not eating/nursing/drinking; 
constipation/diarrhea, late rolling over/
sitting/whatever) seem so trivial once
you're over that crisis and it's someone
else's baby!

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Re: Helping a Preschooler Learn to Swim
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:00:07 GMT

In article 1ou@math.uwaterloo.ca, pahoyt@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Pat Hoyt) writes:
>I'm asking for advice on helping an almost 4 yr. old learn to
>swim by himself. 
..
> Does anyone have any ideas that we can use on our Tuesdays
>in the pool to help Devin? I guess I should add that the shallow end
>of the pool is over Devin's head.

I have a 5.5 year old son who started learning to swim shortly after he
turned 4.  This was mostly during the summer months (June - August) and
not the rest of the year.  We put him in swim classes, but it really
took about 10 class weeks (1 hour per day) over 2 summers before he was
truly swimming.  Others in these classes were swimming after 2 weeks.
And we knew precisely why.  While David absolutely *loved* the water,
he refused up one side and down the other to put his face or ears in
the water.  And we refused to use any force to make him do so (and to
give the teachers credit, they didn't either).  We just used constant
persuasion and example.  And at the end of this summer he was swimming
underwater picking up plastic bars from the bottom of the pool and
can't even tell us why he originally didn't want his face/ears underwater.

So, one of the things you might work with Devin on your Tuesdays is
teaching him to be comfortable with his face and ears in the water
without worrying about the swimming for right now.  The one key factor
I noticed in the kids who were swimming almost from the start was that
they knew to keep their head face down while swimming on their stomach
and ears mostly under while on their backs.

Sorry I can't help beyond that, but if I had known ahead of time that
David has such a problem with having his head under water we would have
played more water games dealing with that before he went into swim
lessons (water games like blowing bubbles, bunny hopping with my support
such that every third hop we went a little more under water, etc.)

Good Luck!

-
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: janem@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Jane Marcus)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:37:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Retention  Was: Re: Year-round schooling
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: misc.kids

I remember summer vacation with great fondness, so it seems that
year round education robs kids of a much needed break.  However,
times are not what they were when I was a kid.  Most kids have their
parents working outside the home and end up spending summers at
camp, daycare, and in more school-like environments.  So maybe it's
not that big a deal for younger kids.  But for teenagers who spend summer
loafing and earning money for college, year round school would be a
big blow.

My 2 cents,
Jane Marcus
jane@apollo.hp.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med,chi.general
From: aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler)
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Organization: University of Victoria
Date:  5 Oct 92 04:31:12 GMT


The attention of people with an Attention Deficit 
Disorder (ADD) is not triggered or maintained in the
same manner as the majority of the population.
There may be accompanying hyperactivity.

The ADD behaviors are supposedly caused by a deficiency
of inhibiting chemicals in the brain.  
Because they react emotionally before thinking, ADD people 
don't respond to traditional +/- reinforcement regimens.
Ritalin acts to modulate this condition.
Generally, as people mature their basal level of these
inhibitors rises to bring them under control.

Both my wife and 8YO son exhibit ADD behavior.
Their attention can be very erratic.  For instance,
at times my son will be *very* distractable, unable
to focus, etc.; later that day he will be so involved
in something that he will wet himself.

My son had great difficulty with kindergarten and grade 
one because the "open classrooms" our schools operate 
are too unstructured for him.  There was so much 
distraction and so little direction that he rarely 
completed any objectives.
I suspect they were more concerned because my son would 
become disruptive and aggressive when not supervised.

The school adminstration and the mental health 
personnel suggested Ritalin to "manage his condition."
My wife rejected this solution because of her
preference for "non-traditional medicine."

A local naturopath diagnosed my son with allergies
to 49 different foods, everything from chicken to 
broccoli.  We chose to innoculate him against the
basic items, eg., alcohol (in fruit and vegetables) 
and wheat, etc., and eliminate some of the more exotic
foods, like almonds, from his diet.
Because he could not be de-sensitised against food 
additives, we never eat at restaurants and read labels
*very thoroughly*.

Since we refused to administer Ritalin to our son (and
because he was making his kindergarten and then grade
one classes unbearable), our school district has placed 
him in a "behavior management" class for the second
and third grades.

There are two teachers and a maximum of 8 boys.  
He receives much more consistent reinforcement and 
discipline that he would in a regular classroom.  
We receive a daily report of his academic and behavioral 
progress.

The allergy treatments, modified diet, forbidding him to
watch violence on T.V., and more rigid routine at school 
and home has allowed my son to make some progress in 
controlling his own behavior without the possible
side-effects of Ritalin.
I don't know whether he will ever reach the point where 
he will be able to participate in a regular classroom.

I empathize with parents efforts to manage an ADD child
within their family.  Providing for my son's care has 
taken concerted effort from my wife (a full-time mother), 
myself, his two younger sisters, and our school district.
For families with less resources (time) to contain one of 
these children, perhaps Ritalin is more appropriate treatment.

A IDLER
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: d85-hga@dront.nada.kth.se (Hillevi Gavel)
Subject: Re: pregnancy and weight gain....how much, when?
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:46:42 GMT

>In <Bv1G1v.Kv9@acsu.buffalo.edu> oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown) writes:
>
>>First time for me and I'm wondering about weight gain - when and 
>>how much?

You'll never know. I've not reached my pre-pregnancy weight yet, and
I'me due somethimes this week! I started by throwing up for about six
months, and then I haven't had anywhere to put the food. These last
two monts I've stopped getting hungry! I eat when the clock says
"meal-time", because otherwise I'll suddenly feel very faint. My
mid-wives aren't concerned, as the tummy grows exactly as it should.
(I could afford to loose it - you are not supposed to be about 200 lb
when you are about 5'7''. At least my feet say so).

Last time I did gain about 25 lb, though. So, as I said, you'll never
know!

-- 
Hillevi Gavel		"The child may not be subject to corporal punishment 
Stockholm		or other abusive treatment" 
Sweden			-- Swedish law
Newsgroups: misc.kids,alt.dads-rights
From: floom@cco.caltech.edu (Laura E. Floom)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: one year olds (Thanks)
Date: 28 Sep 1992 21:31:30 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

elonich@cbnewse.cb.att.com (diane.e.pedersen) writes:

>Get Libby a bucket of Duplos or Tycos.   They're a fun unisex toy
>for all ages -- infant to adult.  (Infants teethe on them, toddlers
>love taking structures apart, 2-year-olds and up build things).

Jeffrey got a big bucket for his 1st birthday. They are a big hit with 
him at age 2.5, and have been for some time. At one year though they werent
too fun for him. I dont think he managed to put two together until he was 
about 16-18 months. He did like pulling htem apart earlier, and I enjoyed 
playing with them. 
 
He also recieved a set of magnet blocks for the same birthday. He still likes
them alot, but was able to master them long before the Duplos. They are a lot 
easier to manipulate for the younger kids. They also dont hurt as much when  
stepped on ;-). I didnt buy either, but thinking about it, it I were doing the 
buying and couldnt afford both, I would buy the magnet blocks first, and then 
buy the Duplos for the next gift giving occasion.    
 
Laura Floom
From: larrabee@cse.ucsc.edu (Tracy Larrabee)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Pregnancy and Wine sauce
Date: 6 Oct 1992 20:01:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

In article <1992Oct6.145156.1@cua.edu> 75furlong@cua.edu writes:
>My understanding is that when you cook with wine, the alcohol evaporates,
>leaving only the flavor, since alcohol has a much lower evaporation point than
>other liquids. I would say enjoy - French food is great!
>

I once invited an alcoholic to dinner and I took the opportunity to ask him
if it was OK to serve food cooked with wine to an alchoholic.  He said
it was no problem because the alcohol evaporated.  This doesn't mean, of
course, that you can serve something like pears poached in port or something,
but with something that is cooked, it is no problem.

Since I am in the camp that thinks 3 or 4 half glasses of wine through the
course of a pregnancy won't hurt anything (I rarely drink when not pregnant,
but I continued to sip wine on the few formal dining occasions we have 
attended), I would never worry about cooking with wine.  If it isn't enough
to trigger a reaction in a recovering alcoholic, it sounds like a non-issue
to me.
--
Tracy Larrabee		larrabee@cse.ucsc.edu



From: jasonc@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Jason Chodora)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:58:27 GMT
Subject: Plecenta Abrubtions and Bedrest ??
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: misc.kids

My wife is four months pregnant, and has had problems with spotting and
on a few occasions severe bleeding.  Our doctor has diagnosed the
problem as a placenta abruption and prescribed bedrest for the remainder
of her pregnancy.  

Does anyone out in netland have information on abruptions and/or bedrest
during pregnancy ???  Our doctor has given us a lot of information, but
any other information, experiences, advice, etc. would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot,

Jason Chodora
jasonc@sr.hp.com
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:35:26 EDT
From: Chris Himes <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: infant/toddler winterwear

Last winter, clothing Doug was easy.  We had a "Babybag" which was
wonderfully easy to get him into and out of and very warm.  This year,
however, we have a toddler....I am inclined to go the 2-piece snowsuit
route, so that he can wear the jacket part only for quick trips to the store
and such and have the pants for serious outdoor play.  One problem is that
Doug has inherited his father's short legs--he wears 12 mos.  size pants and
3T shirts (this would be a problem with a one-piece snowsuit,too).  Any
recommendations of general things to look for in snowsuits, snaps, zippers,
cuffs, pockets, hoods, etc.  What about mittens???

I'm not ready for winter!!!  I realized today that Doug has only 3 long
sleeved shirts that fit, and was wearing the last clean one today.  I hope
it's warm enough for short-sleeves tomorrow!

Chris Himes
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: rlittell@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Rich Littell)
Subject: Re: Washing Diapers with Tide
Reply-To: rlittell@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:09:56 GMT

In article <BvAyAv.EH6@world.std.com>, rgering@world.std.com (Rebecca J
Gering) writes:
> A friend who just had a baby is considering using Tide Ultra Free to
> wash cloth diapers instead of Dreft (which I've always heard is the
> recommended detergent).
> 
> Does anyone know if Tide Ultra Free is comparable to (i.e., as safe
> as) Dreft?  If it is I'd like to give it a try as it's much cheaper
> than Dreft (which is why she's considering it, too).
> 
> Thanks.
> Becky Gering (rgering@world.std.com)

My wife and I are the proud parents of five week old twins.

We have been using Ultra Tide on their clothes and diapers
with no problems.  In fact, we asked the doctor about
special care - his response was - any detergent was fine.

Give Ultra Tide a try - if a problem comes up, change.

Rich Littell
From: cathl@odin (Catherine Lyman)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How to get daughter more career-minded?
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:49:48 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Sep28.160918.12999@engage.pko.dec.com>  
pub@riscee.pko.dec.com (Publius) writes:
> We have a 4 years old daughter who is really bright.  Her preschool
> teacher, an elderly lady, told us that in her many decades of
> experience as a preschool teacher, she has only met two preschoolers
> this bright.  No need to say that we have great hope for her.
> Maybe, we think, she will become a great lawyer upholding the rights
> and the liberty for many; or at least, she can be a doctor relieving
> the pains and the sufferings of the sick.  
> 
etc.

I would relax if I were you. She is only 4....she has a lot of
growing up to do. Pushing such an issue will probably just cause
major rebellion in her teens. I've seen it happen in my family.

Children do follow in their parents footsteps, but often they like
to test the waters, so to speak. Just provide your example silently,
and forget the preaching or the big effort to filter out all other
influences. 

Anyway, who cares if she decides to put her family first? Sounds noble
to me. As parents, we have to learn to help them find their own life,
not live the lives we want them to have.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: New Orleans vs. Fox TV
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:41:04 GMT

I heard on Chicago's WLS radio this morning that the Fox Network
has issued an apology to the City of New Orleans after hearing
of the city's outrage over a portion of the most recently-aired
episode of the Simpsons.

It's the episode where Marge gets a part in the parody of "A Streetcar
Named Desire".  In the play, there is a musical number in which a
chorus line sings a song about New Orleans.  The lyrics are VERY hard
to understand but if you listen closely they go something like this:

"New Or-lee-uns!  Home of pirates, drunks, and whores
New Or-lee-uns!  Tacky overpriced souvenir stores New Or-lee-uns!"

And then there is something like:

If you wanna go to hell you'll get there quick by the bile of
the Mississip, etc., but I haven't played my videotape yet to listen
closely.  Were any of you able to understand the lyrics?  The commentators
on the radio played the song and their consensus was, "Yeah?  So? It's
TRUE!!"

Sure.  Anyone else have an opinion??

-Nance
-- 
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