HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: newspaper addresses sought
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:49:48 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Nov15.095030.23615@rdg.dec.com>, cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn) writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 	I am looking for contact addresses for the following papers:
> 
> The Daily mail (London?)
> The Sunday mail (Glasgow?)

How about

The Daily Mail,
LONDON

and

The Sunday Mail,
GLASGOW

It's amazing what the post office will do these days.

Or since you're in Reading, there's probably a newsagent around about with a
copy of the Daily Mail. That'll tell you.
-- 

Stephen Wilcox             |   For Sale: Posts in British Government. Suit
wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk    |   outgoing American. Highest bids accepted.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.canada
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: Canadian free speech in action
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:07:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.161742.13079@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>, bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross) writes...
>godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>: In article <1992Nov19.104052@aifh.ed.ac.uk>, mwc@aifh.ed.ac.uk writes...
>: > 
>: >What's the matter Larry -- don't you want to endure our complaints about your
>: >awful and intensely boring personality?
>: 
>: No, I would just prefer to see a reasoned attack on me rather than the
>: sort of name-calling that I could expect from school-children
> 
>But Laurence, you recently said...
> 
>>Exactly as I claimed - you canadians are simply all arseholes
> 
>What gives?
> 
>-- 
>Brian Ross                         "How do we arrange lures in our tackle box?
>bross@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca     From left to right, according to size and 
>                                    frequency of use." -- Anal-Retentive Chef.

Hi,  that is what I call a reasoned attach - Laurence
From: Geraint.Jones@comlab.oxford.ac.uk (Geraint Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Split soc.culture.british
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:49:07 GMT
Organization: Subtle Sentimentality, Aggressive Affection and Fervent Fondling
Originator: geraint@pierrot.comlab

(  >Has anybody got the rules, if any, for Mornington Crescent.  I have
 ) >never been able to work it out :-((((
(  
 ) This should definitely be in the FAQ.

Has anybody got the FAQ, if any, for soc.culture.british.  
I have never been able to work it out.                                      g
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From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: English English
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:31:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.040331.29535@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Christin writes...
>godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov  writes:
>> I have just received a letter from the omnipotent BT which begins:
>> thank you for your complaint about .... which has been onpassed to me.
>> Can anyone spot the non-English word in the sentence above?  Is this
>> another one, like de-plane, that we have to thank the Americans for?
>> 
>> Laurence
> 
>I don't think the Americans are to blame for this one.  I have
>seen lots of bureaucratese in my life, but "onpassed" is new to
>me.  Actually, it has a rather German sound to it, don't you
>think?  Who owns BT these days, anyway?
> 
>Chris

We're not quite sure.  We are told it's the shareholders, but I don't know
anyone who will admit to being a shareholder.  Are you suggesting that 
it is the kingpin of the 4th Reich?

Laurence

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: IRISH ADDRESS
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:00:29 GMT


Sorry to bother people, but we have no Irish embassy here and no access
toIrish phone books.

Please, would anyone in the Irish republic, e-mail me if they know
whetherr there is still a convent of the Loretto sisters at Rathfarnham,
co Dublin, and if so what is its address?

Richard Pennell, History NUS
From: mckeonj@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Women priests can't sing
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:38:53 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

In article <1992Nov13.134005.10121@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
> As Dave the Rave Yabadabadoo has said in his customary exuberant way, the
> Church of England general synod has voted to ordain women as priests. The vote
> was roughly as follows:
> 
> Bishops: 39 ayes, 13 noes                     75% in favour
> Clergy:  (sorry, the figures are not to hand) 70% in favour
> Laity:   169 ayes, 82 noes                    67% in favour
> 
The Church of Ireland (Anglican Community) has been ordaining women
for some two years now, a largely beneficial exercise.
However there is one drawback to having a woman a priest, one that 
seems to have been overlooked in the debate.
Women can't intone.
The female voice cannot carry the weight or volume required to chant
or intone the passages required of the president of the divine service.
We have had to resort to the (illegal?) practice of using lay cantors,
if the service is to have any dignity or beauty. 
I guess we need some new musical settings which will utilise the
finer qualities of the female voice.
And, let us leave out the cracks about "old women" and "eunuchs"
when discussing this matter.
-- 
"If England sleeps, shall Ireland dream?" : Se/an macEoin
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: Splitting up s.c.b and debate on Uk.* groups going international, vo
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:55:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.132549.7406@infodev.cam.ac.uk> ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.073658.27531@netcom.com> sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
>>Even the most old-fashioned and plain vanilla unix-based readers
>>support kill files, and so should ALL newsreaders.  7 years ago
>>we had kill files, and we had a tiny fraction of the volume of muck
>>that clogs up the 'net these days.  It is mind-boggling to me that
>>anyone would develop a newsreader without some sort of filtering
>>capability.
>
>I have no time to get involved in a discussion of the realities of the
>PC/Mac world, except to point out that J. Random User is just as likely
>to be using an Apple Notebook running a black box OCO newsreader over
>SLIP/PPP, than a Sun running 'rn' (which is what I use).  For more
>mind-boggles, read comp.sys.mac.dcom, bit.listserv.novell, etc. etc.
>The world has moved on a lot in 7 years.

You don't really need to educate me on the topic.  At home I
have a 486 box, a mac II, a wyse terminal (ahh, the good old days)
and a GraphOn 21" x-terminal, which I use to dial up to my
sparc2 at work.  All of these pieces of equipment are in regular
use.  I was commenting on the fact that yes the world
has come a long way in the last decade, but not far enough if
new entries to the "market" (new newsreaders) are not as sophisticated
as the old creaky stuff that was developed years and years ago.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: English English
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:47:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.145042.25826@pixel.kodak.com> dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
>Sue Miller (sue@netcom.com) wrote:
>> In article <1ea948INNt8l@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC) writes:
>> >In article <1992Nov16.210302.12005@netcom.com>, sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
>> >>
>> >> I kept getting a recording which stated "The line is parked.", over & over.  
>> >> I thought that was fairly strange message, so I called the ATT
>> >> operator to ask what it meant.  She didn't know, so she call the BT operator
>> >> to find out.  Yes, it IS another synonym for "busy" or "engaged".
>> >
>> >I have a vague feeling that it isn't quite the same. Busy/Engaged implies
>> >that the line or equipment is in use by someone else. I think Parked means
>> >that it has been taken out of service by a technician, possibly for testing.
>> 
>> Hmmm.  Parked == out of service.  I can well believe it, but the
>> name "parked" doesn't suggest either 'busy' or 'out of service'.
>> Someone with a distict lack of flair for language is at work here. 
>>
>Come now.  'Parked' in the US applies to calls, not lines.  An incoming
>call will typically be 'parked' on a pseudo-extension while the operator pages
>the recipient.  The recipient connects to the call from whichever extension
>they happen to be at by dialing a code.  'Call Parking' is available on most
>PBX systems, like AT&T, Rolm etc.  The term is well-known.
>
>> 
>> So I would have thought.  I have actually spent several years
>> writing provisioning and operations support software for the telephony 
>> industry, and as a consequence can usually make out most of the weird 
>> vocabulary that the operations types come up with, but "parked" 
>> eluded us.  
>> 
>I'm surprised.  See above.  If BT have perverted the term 'parked' to mean
>something else (perhaps by association with 'parking a call while the
>recipients line is busy') it would be par for the course.

At the time I polled my entire group and none of them recognized the term.  
Several of the people present had done work with pbx equipment so if the
term were common I would have thought they would have heard it.  One of the
group members used to design telephones and telephony eqpt at GEC
in the UK and it was new to him too. 

>
>Incidentally, during a stint at GE several people mentioned to me that the 
>Rolm terminology 'camped on', meaning queued to get access to a busy extension,
>with the system set up to call you back when the line is free, must have 
>originated in the UK, as in 'camping on someone's doorstep'.  Any
>confirmation of this?  Is Rolm a British outfit?
>

We've been using the term "camp on" for as long as I can remember,
but clearly that doesn't mean anything.  "camped on someone's
doorstep" is a popular US expression as well, by the way.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: gibbons@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Alan Gibbons)
Subject: Windsor Castle
Reply-To: gibbons@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola ASIC Division - Design Automation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:09:10 GMT


Question:- I have heard some rumors and rumblings here at work this
morning that there has been a major fire at Windsor Castle - is this
true, anyone got any more details  ?


-Alan

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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: English English
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:55:52 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

LAURENCE GODFREY (godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov) wrote:
: I have just received a letter from the omnipotent BT which begins:
: thank you for your complaint about .... which has been onpassed to me.

Sounds a bit like Newspeak to me. AAAAAAAAAaaaaargh.

Pete
--
*Peter Fenelon -- Research Associate -- Software Safety Assessment Procedures*
Dept. of Computer Science, University of York, York, Y01 5DD (+44/0)904 433388
EMAIL: pete@minster.york.ac.uk `There's no room for enigmas in built up areas'
From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: English English
Date: 17 Nov 1992 13:20:53 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1992Nov17.115142.24783@osf.org>, david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George) writes:

> 
> Still better than phoning directory inquiries in France where you here:
> 
> 	"your call is queued at position 57".

Wow, you got queued? Last time I tried that I got a recorded announcement
telling me that directory enquiries was closed on Sundays, and I could get
the number from Minitel. That was no help, since I was calling because my
friend didn't have a Minitel...

Steve

-- 
Steve McKinty
SUN Microsystems ICNC
38240 Meylan, France
email: smckinty@france.sun.com	   BIX: smckinty
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: pugh@pico.math.ucla.edu (David Pugh)
Subject: Re: Anyone out there from Shetland Is. ?
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:21:51 GMT

In article <1egb7cINNklo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse) writes:
>
>In a previous article, kjell@emke.chalmers.se (Kjell Siimon) says:
>
>>
>>Hiya, folks around the misty isles!!!
>>
>>I would like to get in contact with anyone from/living on Shetland Islands.
>>Would be happy for any reply
>>so, thanks in advance.
>>
>>Kjell the Brave
>>
>
>I'm from the Orkneys - close but not close enough right.
>
>Evelyn
>--
Have you met Peter Maxwell Davies the composer? He lives there too (on Hoy
is it?)

David




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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: "barry ross" <barry.ross@canrem.com>
Subject: fish and chips
Reply-To: "barry ross" <barry.ross@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:53:07 EST


I  understand that true fish and chips in England use  Dog  fish, 
not Halibut or Haddock or Cod like they do in Canada. <Pity>

Is  there any truth to the above statement?  I guess it  is  just 
what you get use too.
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From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Newsgroups: uk.politics,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Fixed Term Parliaments
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:53:44 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1992Nov21.234603.8314@aber.ac.uk>, tmw9@aber.ac.uk (Thomas Mayne Waddell) writes:
|> At the start of the year the forthcoming defeat of the Tories was seen as a
|> certainty.
|> In April the general election was won by the Tories.
|> [...]
|> I would find it very very hard to believe that J. Major and co did not know
|> that Matrix Churchill, the economy and the miners would all blow up in their 
|> faces.

Indeed, on the specific case of Matrix Churchill, the Private Eye
conspiracy theory has its attractions.  The theory is that the Customs
and Excise started their prosecutions with the full knowledge of the
government, and with the intention of preventing comment on the case
during the election campaign, under the sub judice rule.
--
Robin (come back John Drummond) Fairbairns       rf@cl.cam.ac.uk
U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge  CB2 3QG, UK
"They had twelve years to lay in wait for us" - Bush supporter on Nov 4
From: evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: VNS: Fri 20-Nov-1992
Keywords: VNS,news
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:55:36 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Service Industries Solutions Company Ltd


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 Edition : 2709               Friday 20-Nov-1992            Circulation :  7640

        VNS MAIN NEWS .....................................   47 Lines

VNS MAIN NEWS:                                    [Tom Povey, VNS UK News Desk]
==============                                    [Reading, England           ]

    Here is the News at 07:00 GMT on Friday 20-November-1992
    --------------------------------------------------------
        
    UK News
    -------
    FT-SE = 2706.2
    Exchange Rate for UK pound = $ 1.5368  = Dm 2.4227

    A man was shot dead last night in a country pub in Northern Ireland. He
    is the 6th man to have died in the last 6 days. 3 men were also injured
    in the attack. Yesterday, a part-time soldier was shot dead as he
    waited in his car.

    British Rail say that parts of the London commuter network may have to
    be shut down because they cannot afford to repair some of the signaling
    equipment.

    Yesterday, a number of firms announced pending job losses amounting to
    9000 people in the coming 2-3 years. BR announced 5000 job losses.

    Plymouth City Council is leading a delegation to ask the government to
    set up an national agency to help firms hit by defence cuts to
    diversify.

    European News
    -------------

    US and EC negotiators say that they have made progress in trade talks in
    Washington and that they are optimistic about success. The EC
    negotiators return to Brussels to report back to EC ministers. Only then
    will it become clear whether the compromises agreed with the US are
    acceptable to all the EC countries.

    9 European countries are expected to agree today to a blockade of the
    Adiatic coast in order to enforce the sanctions against Serbia and
    Montenegro agreed by the UN. However, much of the trade that the
    sanctions seek to stop actually comes via the Danube and across land
    borders.


    {News courtesy of the BBC}


    Local Weather
    -------------

    A bright start but rain spreading in from the west later. High 9C/48F.

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From: robbo@hprpcd.rose.hp.com (Dave Robinson)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:26:50 GMT
Subject: Video Format Conversions Info.
Organization: HP Roseville Site
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british

I noticed on other soc.culture groups that people were looking for help
in sending/receiving videos back home. ASo, I thought I would post this to the 
British section.


	You can get your tapes transfered from the NTSC format(USA) to
the PAL format (UK) using companies listed in VideoMaker Magazine or
'cultural' papers such as the "Union Jack". 
My favorite company (I know the owner - a reet nice Yorkshire lass) is:

	RVT
	1911 Douglas Boulevard #85
	Roseville
	CA 95661
	(916) 773-3705

	They offer VHS or 8mm (including Hi8) transfers. The approximate
cost is around $25 for 2 hours including tape and return shipping.
CA residents have to pay tax at 7.25%. They have a 24 hour turn around time.

	Of course you can buy a machine from Panasonic called the AG-W1 
to do your own. This machine is not cable/TV ready. It is a dedicated VCR
recorder/playback/standards convertor, so it might be expensive for the 
occasional use - listed at $2400. I did read that there are some machines
coming on the market aimed at consumers that will playback different
formats but not record them. The AG-W1 is listed as a professional machine -
hence no tuner!

Hope this helps!

Dave Robinson
robbo@rose.hp.com
KD6MXD
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.canada,sci.research.careers
From: maniattb@cs.rpi.edu (Bill Maniatty)
Subject: Re: Canadian free speech in action
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:16:59 GMT

Please take discussions not related to research careers in science out of
sci.research.careers, your discussions are in an inappropriate forum.

Bill
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: pugh@pico.math.ucla.edu (David Pugh)
Subject: Re: Clive's bike
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:18:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.094103.14611@hasler.ascom.ch> kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch writes:
>
>About a year ago there was an article on TV about an electric bike that
>Sir Clive Sinclair had developed (resembling a Mini-Moulton bicycle) and 
>was selling them for about 500 quid. Has anybody seen them for sale?? 
>
>kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch

Probably crashed along with all his other hair-brained schemes. What
a wally, that guy is...

David


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: pault@ossi.com (Paul Taylor)
Subject: Re: English English
Organization: Fujitsu America, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:16:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.040331.29535@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Christina Powell) writes:
>godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov  writes:
>> I have just received a letter from the omnipotent BT which begins:
>> thank you for your complaint about .... which has been onpassed to me.
>> Can anyone spot the non-English word in the sentence above?  Is this
>> another one, like de-plane, that we have to thank the Americans for?
>> 
>> Laurence
>
>I don't think the Americans are to blame for this one.  I have
>seen lots of bureaucratese in my life, but "onpassed" is new to
>me.  Actually, it has a rather German sound to it, don't you
>think?  Who owns BT these days, anyway?
>
>Chris

Is this from the same school of English that gave us "upchucked" ?


-- 
  Paul Taylor pault@ossi.com
"Sometimes you get the bear, and other times the bear gets you.
I think we have just been gotten"
From: fbowles@gssec.bt.co.uk (Frank K Bowles)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,uk.politics
Subject: Re: The Maastricht vote (was Re: Dog in House of Parliament)
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:17:18 GMT
Organization: BT

In article <Bxx7qD.73o@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>, streater@unixjr.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov18.095724.28614@infodev.cam.ac.uk> rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
|> >in opposition) both resigned their peerages.  It's apparently felt
|> >that it would be bad form to have a PM in the Lords.
|> >
|> A PM in the Lords would be unable to take part in Commons business. It would
|> be similar to the situation Frank Cousins (I think) was in after Harold "White
|> heat" Wilson had appointed him Minister of (Technology? Or was that Wedgie?)
|> when he, Cousins, had managed to lose a by-election created specially for him.

Cousins didn't lose the by-election, but he decimated the majority of
the former MP, Frank Bowles, in the constituency of Nuneaton.  It was
Frank who had been bumped-up to the Lords (as Lord Bowles of Nuneaton),
not Cousins.  Frank had been a popular constituency MP for 20 years, so
no wonder the punters were a bit upset having some union hack foisted
upon them.


I know.  Frank was my great uncle.

Frank.

|> You can do it but it doesn't work very well.
|> 
|> Tin.


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