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Subject: Re: A couple of NZ news items
From: andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:57:15 GMT
Organization: Distributed Systems Group, Comp Sci, Victoria University of Wellington

In article <1992Nov19.162608.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty) writes:
>Still in Wellington - coach Andy Leslie has been given the bullet after some
>mediocre performances by the capital's side over the past few seasons and has
>been replaced by "golden boy" David Kirk. While most in the capital see it as a
>positive move doubts have been expressed about Kirk's age (32) and his lack of
>coaching experience.

Sure are some doubts!  The Petone coach has said they would be very
disappointed if Andy Leslie got the boot and David Kirk moved in.
Andy Leslie has been building the team over the last few seasons and I
had heard the players, etc, were happy with the way things were going.
I hear the only coaching experience David Kirk has was at Oxford while
he was there.  I guess we got to have him do something besides hang
around with Jim Bolger all day.  Maybe he'll do this until a
parlimentary seat comes up.

I also heard that Lawrence Hullena has moved to Auckland for business
reasons.  I've no idea if this is at all related to the above.

andy
From: garks@otago.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Barbarians side.
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:01:30 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

I thought there was another NZer playing...Low wasn't it?
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: A couple of NZ news items
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:26:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: csc.1992Nov19.162608.1
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

A couple of items that may be of interest to some.

Former All Black great Ken Gray died in Wellington yesterday. Gray died of a
heart attack. He was 56 years old.

Still in Wellington - coach Andy Leslie has been given the bullet after some
mediocre performances by the capital's side over the past few seasons and has
been replaced by "golden boy" David Kirk. While most in the capital see it as a
positive move doubts have been expressed about Kirk's age (32) and his lack of
coaching experience.

Alan
From: cep@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: South Africa tour in Newsweek
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:07:06 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <1ega92INN3m4@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> flatau@cs.utexas.edu (Arthur Flatau) writes:
>
>One question, I had thought that the South African team was no longer
>"officially" called the Springboks.  Is this true?  or did they just
>no longer have a Springbok on their jersey?  or what?

The Springbok is taken by some parties as an apartheid emblem and there has
been pressure for it to be removed. I think the BBC had strict guidelines (from
I know not who) not to mention the word at all during commentary. The new badge
of the SARFU incorporates the Springbok plus the leaves (sorry, don't know what
they are) from the former black union (SARB?) as the two have been merged.

Charlie
From: flatau@cs.utexas.edu (Arthur Flatau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Eng vs SA
Date: 17 Nov 1992 11:06:16 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <1992Nov17.122535.17696@siesoft.co.uk> bruce@siesoft.co.uk (Bruce Beadle) writes:
>I have reproduced below some "Match Facts" that the Times printed 
>yesterday. These make interesting reading. 

Great stuff, thanks for taking the time.

>Territorial advantage:
>	England 39min South Africa 43
>
>Posession advantage:
>	England 47min South Africa 26

Minor point, shouldn't these two pair of numbers add up to the same
thing?  (or is time the ball spent in the air not counted).

>Scrums:
>	Award	Won	Ag Hd	Void
>England    9	  8	    0	   1
>S.Africa   16	 15	    0	   1
>
>Lineouts:
>		Award	Won	Void
>England	   31	 26	   2
>S.Africa	   20	 17	   6

What is a void Scrum or Lineout?  Does that mean a penalty/free kick
was awarded there?  (which generally would be at least as good as
winning the thing)

Art
From: bruce@siesoft.co.uk (Bruce Beadle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Are Australia worthy World Champions
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:38:09 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
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If I make so bold, I think the Australian side that won the World Cup
was by far the best side in the world. This assertion means that, by
definition, they are worthy world champions. But having seen them on
this latest tour I would venture to suggest that Australia does not 
posess anywhere near the strength in depth of, say, New Zealand. The
mere fact that people are discussing the possibility that Wales might
win on Saturday shows that Australia have deteriorated to an alarming
degree. No team could lose players of the quality of Farr-Jones and
Lynagh and not suffer. With the prospect now of Eales and Campo carrying
injuries and some of their best players playing out of postion they must
face up to the prospect of the Welsh running them close.

I think Chris Rea summed it up on Rugby Special on Sunday, when he said
this is a tour too far for Australia. 

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From: bruce@siesoft.co.uk (Bruce Beadle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Scores and Tables 21/11
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:07:56 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
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Courage Club Champioship
National League One

Bristol		23, Orrell		11
Gloucester	19, Saracens		 5
Harlequins	 7, Northampton		12
Leicester	 3, Bath		13
Rugby		 0, London Irish	14
Wasps		10, London Scottish	 6

			P	W	Pts.
Wasps			6	6	 12
Bath			6	5	 10
Leicester		7	5	 10
Northampton		6	5	 10
Bristol			7	4	  8
London Irish		7	4	  8
Harlequins		7	3	  7
London Scottish		7	2	  5
Gloucester		6	2	  4
Orrell			6	2	  4
West Hartlepool		6	1	  2
Saracens		7	1	  2
Rugby			6	1	  2

National League Two

Bedford		 9, Sale		 9
Fylde		14, Waterloo		15
Morley		13, Newcastle Gosforth	36
Richmond	13, Blackheath		23
Risslyn Park	 6, Nottingham		18
Wakefield	 8, Coventry		 0

Top places:

			P	W	Pts.
Newcastle Gosforth	6	6	 12
Waterloo		7	6	 12
Nottingham		7	5	 10
Sale			7	4	  9

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Phone : +44-344-850485 (Desk).  |  +44-344-862222 (Switchboard)
"Baldrick, your brain is like the great four headed haddock eating
fish monster of Aberdeen - it doesn't exist!"
From: calum@ivy.clu.cf.ac.uk (Calum Gordon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Wales v Australia
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:25:39 GMT
Reply-To: Calum Gordon <calum@clu.cf.ac.uk>
Organization: Computational Linguistics Unit, Univ of Wales College of Cardiff
Posting-Software: GNUS: NNTP-based News Reader for GNU Emacs

Welsh TV is really going OTT over this one. BBC Wales are showing
stirring trailers for Saturday's test showing slow-motion action of
recent Welsh tries (?- what tries I hear you say-?) all set to
stirring music, raising the standard, fighting miner's talk and all
that. I just can't help feeling it's a bit premature to be talking of
the "big Welsh recovery" in world rugby before any significant results
are achieved. I've got a gut feeling the promoters are going to be
feeling a tad silly later tomorrow afternoon. There again, I may have
to eat my words or endure lots of "I told you so" email. But I doubt it:
Australia, then, by twelve points.
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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Naas Botha to retire
Date: 15 Nov 92 15:50:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.BxrLCE.I4x
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

The title says it all. This was announced on BBC today.

K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
From: bruce@siesoft.co.uk (Bruce Beadle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: M R Steele-Bodger's XV
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:26:45 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
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M R Steele-Bodger's XV v Cambridge Uni. Grange Rd. Wed. 25th Nov. 3:00pm

T.van Rensberg(SA & Transvaal), D.O'Leary(Saracens), M.Hall(Wales & Cardiff),
B.Barley(England & Wakefield), J-B LaFond(France & Begles), A. Davies(Wales
& Cardiff), N.Farr-Jones(Australia & Sydney Uni.), J.Foster(Richmond),
H.Roberts(Transvaal), G.Pearce(England & Northampton), J.Wakeford(S.Wales
Police), N.Edwards(Scotland & Harlequins), R.Wainwright(Scotland & Edinburgh
Academicals), S.Holmes(Wasps), M.Rennell(Bedford).

Maybe they can get their scrum half to play for the BaaBaas next Saturday :-)

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Phone : +44-344-850485 (Desk).  |  +44-344-862222 (Switchboard)
"Baldrick, your brain is like the great four headed haddock eating
fish monster of Aberdeen - it doesn't exist!"
From: davep@uk.sun.com (Dave Powell - Sun UK - Tech Support)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: South Africa, Australia, New Zealand.
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:49:47 GMT
Reply-To: davep@uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems Ltd.

In article <1992Nov18.223940.21423@cs.su.oz.au> allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer) writes:

>	I haven't seen a better side in my life than the WC squad of
>	Australia.Closest was the French side of '78 era with John Pierre
>	Rives as captain.

Well, trying to leave any bias out of this(!) perhaps the Welsh side of the seventies
should be considered here. Sure, they were not as fit as todays teams, but in terms
of talent how many have come close to the likes of JPR, JJ Williams, Gerald Davies,
Gareth Edwards, Phil Bennett, Barry John, Mervyn Davies and the Pontypool front
row? And all around at the same time - and consistently the best side (in the northern
hemisphere at least!) for around 8 years - not just a single season.

But basically agree - the Australians that won the WC were a brilliant side, and I hope
that others catch up with them instead of them declining.

Dave
From: G.R.Price@cm.cf.ac.uk (G Price)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: re:Welsh team
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:15:38 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.
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Anthony Clement will miss Saturdays game, he suffered a stress fracture of the
shin in training.  His place will be taken by Mike Rayer of Cardiff.

Rayer has been, IMHO, the outstanding player in Welsh rugby this year. He
specialises in joining the line at pace and attacking from deep. Losing
Clement is a blow, but Rayer is a class replacement.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
From: allanc@cs.su.oz.au (Restless Wanderer)
Subject: Re: South Africa, Australia, New Zealand.
Reply-To: allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:38:04 GMT

In article <13873@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> davep@uk.sun.com writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.223940.21423@cs.su.oz.au> allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer) writes:
>
>>	I haven't seen a better side in my life than the WC squad of
>>	Australia.Closest was the French side of '78 era with John Pierre
>>	Rives as captain.
>
>Well, trying to leave any bias out of this(!) perhaps the Welsh side of the seventies
>should be considered here. Sure, they were not as fit as todays teams, but in terms


	Yea,not a bad side at all,I remember all that talent in the
	five nations tournament.Awesome 
	I'd give it a high rating.
	The fitness you mention is in keeping up with the sides you play
	against.I'd conceed that the AB's are slightly fitter than Aus
	but the rivalry between them,will always have the Nth Hemisphere
	at a disadvantage.After being in Wales,the weather is a huge factor
	in fitness.


>But basically agree - the Australians that won the WC were a brilliant side, and I hope
>that others catch up with them instead of them declining.

	After the Welsh Test,I can see a greater improvement in the
	play from the Nth Hemishpere.I think that all teams have rebuilding
	years.I just hope that you are right ,and that other teams rise
	to the ocassion instead of watching the decline of great sides.

>
>Dave

allanc
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
From: peterda@cs.uow.edu.au (Peter Donald Asquith)
Subject: Re: Paul Kahl at 5/8
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:47:13 GMT

preidy@alsvid.une.edu.au (Paul Reidy) writes:

>I can't believe Paul Kahl was picked at 5/8 for the Welsh test.  The selectors
>continually overlook NSW players in favour of Queenslanders.  Tim Wallace is a
>far more inventive player than Kahl and he can pass both sides of his body
>(pretty important I'd think).  What about Jim Allen, he has played great for
>NSW and can't even make a tour.

>-- 
>Paul Reidy  Internet:  preidy@loki.une.edu.au   Phone:  +61 66 ????????
>    University of New England, Northern Rivers (Lismore) NSW Australia

I couldn't agree more.  It is a joke.  Tim Wallace can consider
himself very unlucky.  

Peter Asquith
Dept Computer Science
Wollongong University
Australia
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From: gdebelle@athena.mit.edu (Guy L Debelle)
Subject: Wales v Australia on Satellite
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:54:36 GMT

I tried to post this before but it didn't seem to get through.

For those in the Boston area, Paddy Burke's on Portland St in Boston
down near the Garden is showing the game live starting at 9.30am on Sat.
They'll be replaying it later in the day if that's too early for you.

For those elsewhere, it appears they're picking up the satellite feed back to
Australia, so its the Channel 10 broadcast.  I'm not sure if that helps you
aim your satellite dish.  

Maybe ksrao can fill in more of the satellite details.

Guy
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From: allanc@cs.su.oz.au (Restless Wanderer)
Subject: Re: Welsh team
Reply-To: allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:35:24 GMT

Just a funnier side of rugby......

I was watching the highlights of Welsh B V's Asutralia when a friend
(girl) walked in as they were showing the line up of Welsh Players.
Her comments split the room,she looked at the screen and said.
" Shit,anyone can play rugby.Short fat or ugly "
Ah well fair criticism.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Australia vs Wales
Organization: Wits University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 13:43:08 RSA

The last few weeks, people have been debating whether Australia are worthy
world champions especially after losing to club sides in Ireland and Wales.
 
They have just beaten Wales 23-6 ! I believe they had beaten Ireland by a
considerable margin as well. It goes to show, that when it matters, they
can produce the results. So, to be fair to them, I would consider them
worthy champions.
From: martin@chiton.ucsd.edu (Martin Olivera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Pumas 24 vs France 20
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:43:23 GMT
Organization: Scripps Inst. of Oceanography - MPL

I heard that the Argentine Pumas defeated France 24-20 (7 penalties + 1 drop-
goal vs 3 tries?). The match was played in Nantes, France. It seems the
French kicker couldn't convert from anywhere.

Alex Wyllie, the former NZ coach, had spent 15 days in Argentina assisting in
the preparation of the Pumas' tour of France and Romania. His comments on this
result: "Honestly I wouldn't have given them a chance before hand.  I thought 
they would get cleaned out by France and Romania".

Martin
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Subject: Re: Wales 6 Australia 23
From: R.D.Lynn@massey.ac.nz (R.D. Lynn)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 23:58:12 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

In article: <1992Nov23.124653.12390@waikato.ac.nz> higham@waikato.ac.nz
(Tom Higham) writes:

> ....

>SHOULD be unbeatable. God knows, if Eden Park was like that, with those
>supporters, New Zealand would never lose there. Hang on, what am I saying, they
>do never lose there :^)   (Ok, France 78, Oz 86? Any more?)

France 1979 it was, then there was Australia 1978 when Cornelsen scored a
quattrick of tries and 1973, when England, who had lost all their provincial
games, won 16-10. I hope there's no more! :-) Mind you, our worst record 
would have to be Athletic Park.

>I hope the Dragons can turn things around before the next world cup anyway.
-- 

Let's hope they stuff England! :-)

>Tom.

Rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
From: R.D.Lynn@massey.ac.nz (R.D. Lynn)
Subject: Re: Pumas 24 vs France 20
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 00:50:21 GMT

In article: <1992Nov16.164323.10232@chiton.ucsd.edu> 
martin@chiton.ucsd.edu (Martin Olivera) writes:

>I heard that the Argentine Pumas defeated France 24-20 (7 penalties + 1 drop-
>goal vs 3 tries?). The match was played in Nantes, France. It seems the
>French kicker couldn't convert from anywhere.

Ole!...ole ole ole! Pumas! Pumas!

A great result for Pumas fans (including me!) breaking a run of losses 
against major rugby nations and Wales too. :-) Next step, the WORLD CUP! :-) 
 
From what I've read, Santiago Meson kicked the penalties with Arbizu kicking 
the drop goal to seal the game. Reminds me of the time Hugo Porta kicked all 21
points to draw the second test with New Zealand in 1985, with the All Blacks
scoring four tries and Crowley missing kicks from everywhere. 

>Alex Wyllie, the former NZ coach, had spent 15 days in Argentina assisting in
>the preparation of the Pumas' tour of France and Romania. His comments on this
>result: "Honestly I wouldn't have given them a chance before hand.  I thought 
>they would get cleaned out by France and Romania".

Let's hope old Grizz makes more trips to Argentina.

>Martin
>-- 
>------

Rob 
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From: bruce@siesoft.co.uk (Bruce Beadle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Eng vs SA
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:25:35 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
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I have reproduced below some "Match Facts" that the Times printed 
yesterday. These make interesting reading. 

Territorial advantage:
	England 39min South Africa 43

Posession advantage:
	England 47min South Africa 26

Scrums:
	Award	Won	Ag Hd	Void
England	    9	  8	    0	   1
S.Africa   16	 15	    0	   1

Lineouts:
		Award	Won	Void
England		   31	 26	   2
S.Africa	   20	 17	   6

Penalties/Free kicks:
		Award	Tap	Goal	Miss
England		   14	  9	   3	   2
S.Africa	    6	  4	   2	   0

Half backs:
		Run	Kick	Pass
Morris		  3	   7	  40
Wright		  0	   3	  41
Andrew		  4	  20	  11
Botha		  1	  26	  15

Kicks at Goal:
		Total	Con	Miss
Webb		    9	  5	   4
Botha		    5	  4	   1

Botha also had one drop goal from two attempts. No other player
attempted a drop goal.

It's a shame these stats. were not broken down between the first half
and the second. As I think that would have been more illuminating.

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From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Subject: Re: Are Australia worthy World Champions
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:37:39 GMT

In article <CJP.92Nov16084349@aberda.aber.ac.uk>, cjp@aber.ac.uk (C J Price) writes:
> the Aussies were too polite to crow.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!  

Alan
From: higham@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: South Africa, Australia, New Zealand.
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:13:01 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <13873@texsun.Central.Sun.COM>, davep@uk.sun.com (Dave Powell - Sun UK - Tech Support) writes:
> In article <1992Nov18.223940.21423@cs.su.oz.au> allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer) writes:
> 
>>	I haven't seen a better side in my life than the WC squad of
>>	Australia.Closest was the French side of '78 era with John Pierre
>>	Rives as captain.

What about the All blacks of 1987-90? They were, up until the Aussie sunrise,
the best team of all time IMHO. Undefeated for like 3 years, 19 tests +, they
beat everyone in the world bar SA. Buck Shelford and the team were awesome.

> 
> Well, trying to leave any bias out of this(!) perhaps the Welsh side of the seventies
> should be considered here. Sure, they were not as fit as todays teams, but in terms

Is this the Welsh team that went down to New Zealand in 72, 74 and 78, yeah
they were great weren't they :^)

> of talent how many have come close to the likes of JPR, JJ Williams, Gerald Davies,
> Gareth Edwards, Phil Bennett, Barry John, Mervyn Davies and the Pontypool front
> row? And all around at the same time - and consistently the best side (in the northern
> hemisphere at least!) for around 8 years - not just a single season.

No but seriously, excellent talented players, how the mighty have fallen (may
change my tune after this weekend but I doubt it)

> 
> But basically agree - the Australians that won the WC were a brilliant side, and I hope
> that others catch up with them instead of them declining.

Can't wait for the Bledisloe cup next year so we can see how far the Aussies
have declined, Peter Fitzsimons should be back in the locking pozzie by then I
reckon. Of course the WC's have declined, they're not the same team. I argue
that they are the world champions of course but they don't play like they used
to. Maybe its injuries, but that s too simple, I think its the influence of
Farr-Jones to a large extent, great captain, pivotal player. Just my 0.02c
worth.

-- 
Tom
From: smaad@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr A Davies 92)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Llanelli 13 Australia 9
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:48:02 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <13841@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> davep@uk.sun.com writes:
|I still think Australia will win against Wales; they are looking pretty jaded (hardly
|surprising after their stirling efforts of the last two years) but I am sure they have
|a couple more games in them - lets just hope they are against Cardiff and the
|Barbarians! At least the Welsh will go into the game with far more confidence than in
|recent encounters - and I shall be shouting myself silly (though only at the telly
|unfortunately!).
|

Provided Wales get 'some' lineout ball then they should win. After all,
the team does contain eleven players who have already tasted success
against the Wallabies.

Tommorrow, Australia will play against Monmouthshire in Ebbw Vale,
and not Cardiff. Cardiff didn't qualify to play the tourists as they
didn't win the league last year, or finish in the top two places the
year before.
    Monmouthshire is a team the WRU chose to give players from East
Wales a chance to play against the Australians. It will contain players
from Newport, Pontypool and Newbridge, and ex Wales & Newport/Newbridge
outside half Paul Turner who is now player/coach at Sale will captain
the team.
 
|Dave Powell
|Sun Microsystems UK

Adrian.