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From: foley@phoebus.meteor.wisc.edu (Jonathan Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Ferrets & Allergies
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:07:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: meteor.1992Apr6.170730.2625
Reply-To: foley@meteor.wisc.edu
Organization: Center for Climatic Research

Howdy All:

I am the proud owner of 4 (count 'em!) ferrets.  One of the little
dudes, Roy, seems to have a problem with breathing every once in
a while.  In the summer and fall, he seems to be congested for
long periods of time.  He has had this since he was a kit.  What
can I do?  I suspect he has some sort of allergy to pollen (ferret
hay fever?)...but I don't know what to do about it.  

Any ideas?

I would appreciate any suggestions.  It doesn't seem to really hurt
him any, but I hate to see him unhappy.  

Thanks,

Jon
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From: hartman@dewey.udel.edu (Nancy Hartman)
Subject: Re: Potty Training a Ferret
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:08:58 GMT

In article <92101.010553PEGUES@NDSUVM1.BITNET> T. Scott Pegues <PEGUES@NDSUVM1.BITNET> writes:
>Perris is Tommy's new baby ferret.  We are having a lot of fun with her, but we
> don't know how to potty train her.  We do know that she likes corners, but not
>always the ones we do.... poor carpet :(  Your help is much appreciated, please
>respond quickly, patients is wearing thin.


First of all, you can't expect your baby ferret to be litter trained like 
a cat.  You need at LEAST one litterbox per room.  

Ferrets learn much better by reward than they do punishment.  So whenever
you see her use the litterbox, shower her with praise and give her a 
treat.  When you catch her in the act of "missing" scream and yell and
put her in a box.  Then, when she goes shower her with praise...

Whenever she first wakes up, or you take her out of her cage (if she uses
one) make her utilize her box.  (keep her in it until she goes or it is
quite apparent that she really doesn't have to.  If she is a house-ferret,
you might want to consider caging her when she's not supervised, just until
she's litter trained.  Sort of like "crate training" a dog.  (A small bathroom,
tub, or closet should work, too)

When she "chooses" a corner that you don't have a litter box in:
A.  Clean it liberally (with chlorox if the carpet will take it) and spray
    with bitter apple.
B.  Put a small bowl of food there or another litterbox.  (the are very
    festidious and will not go in their food)

Now for the first few months you may end up having litterboxes and bowls of
food everywhere.  Don't worry.  She will get better, and you will be able
to gradually take them away.

One note:  Get small litterboxes.  The regular "cat-sized" ones very often
will be rejected because the sides are too high, and it is just too much
work for a little baby ferret to climb in.  (I learned that the hard way)

Remember, not all ferrets will require all these measures.  Some may take
to a litterbox quite naturally, another will grudgingly use it with only
a little yelling and praise, it is the rare stubborn ferret who requires
the drastic measures for any length of time.

Good luck!

- Nancy


-- 
Nancy Hartman					CIS graduate student
hartman@udel.edu				U. of Delaware
        President and founder, Delaware Valley Ferret Club
                      Owner of Percy & Bree
From: jmhodosko@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Jeff Hodosko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Ferret question: 2 males ??
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:14:08 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Just a quick question for any and all ferret gurus out there,

My SO and I have a male ferret, Martyn, about three years old.  Last year we
got him another ferret, female, to keep him company.  A couple couple months
ago she passed away and Martyn seems lonely and we feel like we are ready to
adopt another child into our home.  I have read that it is better to get
ferrets that are of the opposite sex.  My question is, Would it be alright to
get another male to be Martyn's little sib. (btw, all the ferrets mentioned
have been fixed, which I assume makes a big difference.)

The reason I ask is because I was in the pet store the other day and they had
this one-year-old male ferret that just seemed perfect.  You could tell the
people who raised him spent a lot of time with him.  They were asking $150 for
him which seems a little steep, but it is worth it.

Thanks in advance,
- jeff
From: jonathan@cats.ucsc.edu (Jonathan Cano)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: 2 black cats need a home (free)
Date: 12 Apr 92 06:54:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32720
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


I'm posting this for a friend.  Do not send me mail in
response to this message!

2 black male cats need a home.  They are both 2 yrs old
and house trained, fixed (or broken, depending on your
perspective...) and have their shots.  These charming 
pets also come with a litter box, water/food dispenser
thingy and a travel cage.  They are free to anyone who
will provide them with a good home.

Call Mike Beckley (manager) at Lyons restaurant in Capitola 462-1504.
Apparently Mike's apartment complex has come under new management and
he can no longer keep his darling little kitties :^(
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From: Auferret@CVMMDL1.MSstate.EDU (Jennifer Au)
Subject: Re: ferret dorctors & ultrasound, untltraltrasound
Organization: Miss. State U. College of Vet. Med.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:59:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.125003.10388@njitgw.njit.edu>, smt2626@hertz.njit.edu (sylvia m tou mfen stnt) writes:
> Sylvia,
   I'm interested in knowing about how you feel about Dr. Kawasaki considering
I work for him during the summer. He performed an adrenalectomy and removed
a mass from the pancreas (which came back Beta cell tumor) for about 
$150. Is Dr. Kemmerer the vet that I've heard recomends (or at least performs
several) declaws on ferrets? Anyone have any info about this?
          Jenny Au
> 
> For those interested, I was told that University of Florida vetinarian (sp?)
> school is offereing free ultrsound for ferrets for research in adrenal(sp?)
> gland problems and tumors.  I have already had one of my ferrets have an
> ultrasound and it was EXPENSIVE!! (and I mean mega-bucks).  So if you are
> in need of having an untrasound done, depending on where you live, you might
> want to consider this.  A person to call for more information is the
> West End Animal Hospital in Newberry, FL. at (904) 332-4357.
> Dr. Deborah Kemmerer would know if not the receptionist.  For anyone with 
> a ferret in that area (Newberry), I strongly would recommend her.  Her 
> specialty is ferrets.  She's excellent, 
> experience and inexpensive.  I live in New Jersey and for major problems
> (anything more than shots) I take my ferrets down to Fl.  This may seem
> rather excessive but the vets I have experienced in NJ are not very
> knowledgeable about ferrets.  I have also taken them to the so called famous
> NYC Animal Medical Clinic.  While these people were knowledgeable; they were
> not experienced and were VERY EXPENSIVE (I have an insulinoma operation 
> done of one of my ferrets, Animal Medical Hopsital said $500 +, 
> Dr. Kemmerer said that price was ridiculous since she does it for $250 which
> included an  exploratory for complications associated with insulinoma.  
> such as adrenal (sp?) tumors).  Someone else that Dr. Kemmerer recommended
> since I have another ferret showing signs of insulinoma is
> Dr. Tom Kawasaki at Old Bridge Vetinarian Hospital in VA (703)494-0094
> (this is suppose to be 30 minutes away from DC and a lot close to NJ than FL)). 
>  I am going down there next weekend.  For those interested in how I feel 
> about him after this trip, let  me know.
> 
> 
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Subject: FORSALE: DOG CRATE
Organization: AT&T
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:16:15 GMT
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From: njl@drutx.ATT.COM (LaRocheNJ)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: FEEDING BUNNIES: (Was: HAVE BUN, WILL TRAVEL)
Summary: What to feed a bunny, and what not to worry about
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:46:47 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <12000020@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>, almanb@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Bob Alman) writes:
> 
> I wanted to provide fruit and yogurt for them but our buns don't 
> seem to like fresh food or
> yogurt or fruit. Just alfalfa  and pellets and that's that.
> Oh-they will eat grass if I let them.  Any feelings on potential
> problems if only pellets are consumed? Should I "force" them to
> eat other foods by not providing their beloved pellets?

Goodness, no, don't take away your bunny's pellets.  If they are one of
the good brands (e.g., Manna-Pro, Purina), they are nutritionally
balanced and, with hay and water, will keep him very healthy.

Veggies and fruits are more treats than necessities.  They have some
vitamins and minerals, but a good pellet has enough of these, too.  Some
rabbits actually cannot tolerate any fresh plant matter...

However, if you want to give your bunny treats (total diet should always be
at least 80% pellets), try any of the following, but start with very small
amounts and cut back or stop if there is any sign of diarrhea:
	carrot (tops and bottoms)
	broccoli
	parsley
	radish tops
	watercress
	mint
	cilantro
	apple
	banana
	pineapple (fruit or juice)
	orange (fruit or juice)
	kiwi
	raisins (in very small amounts--can cause bloating)
	leaf lettuce (in very small amounts and with not wilted or
	              discolored)

Avoid the following as regular treats:
	spinach
	cabbage
	cauliflower
	rape
	kale
	mustard

NEVER give:
	raw beans
	potato peels
	rhubarb
	anything stale enough that you wouldn't eat it yourself
	tomato leaves or stems

Nancy LaRoche (CO HRS)
att!drutx!njl
From: weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Question?
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:07:53 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <CMM.0.90.2.702588246.mgsellma@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mgsellma@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Gsellman) writes:
>I was just wondering and please do not get offended, is there usually any
>other subject of discussion besides ferrets? I ask this because I own a dog
>and all I read about is ferrets and I'd like to know if there is a news group
>for dogs and dog owners.  Please don't get mad at me for this because I'm
>just curious, not to start an arguement.
>
>
>By the way, How do ferrets make as pets and how much do they run ($)?
>
>Thanx,
> Mark

Hey, no need to be so timid. This is only the net :) we aren't gonna roast you
for an honest question.


Ok, Try subscribing to rec.pets.dogs. The 's' on dogs may be optional.
I too own ferrets (argh that animal again:), I like them. They did not cost
me much to get due to the fact that I got them free from some friends that
did not believe in fixing their ferrets.
I don't know what the going rate is, though.

There, now that didn't hurt at all, did it?
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From: rabbit@buster2.Michigan.COM (Dr. Roger Rabbit)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Squeaky rabbit
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:43:41 GMT
Organization: CTCS System #2

In article <1992Apr2.205315.16733@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dand@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Daniel D. Duncan (KD4IGW)) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.172256.25090@mtholyoke.edu> kbourque@mtholyoke.edu (Karen Bourque) writes:
^^>Lately my rabbit has been very vocal.  When she hops, she squeaks.
^^>Maybe it's more like a mixture of a squeak and a chirp.  she
^^>used to grunt.
^^>Anyone have a clue as to why my rabbit's voice changed?
^^>Could it be rabbit-puberty???
^^
^^The Cadbury Bunny tryouts are coming up, and...
^^
^^-DanD
^^

How old is she?? It may be a sign of a developing respiratory problem.
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From: set@cis.ksu.edu (Toaster Man)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Help paraniod Ferret user (RE:weight)
Date: 14 Apr 1992 07:01:59 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Department of Computing and Information Sciences
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: harry.cis.ksu.edu
Originator: set@cis.ksu.edu

Ok i have been asking the questions about my ferret being really skinny..
well I was assured thier for a moment that he is not dehydrating (sp)
but i pick him up and pulled a little bit on his hair and god.. i about 
pulled every little stain of hair out.. i know he is probably shedding
his winter coat but im starting to get a little worried about the weight
and his fur etc..  Tomorrow i think i might take him to the vet.. 
Are their any good suggestions to tell her what might be wrong??
should i start ask for nutrical, for the weight gaining.?

smokey is a 7 month old sabel who has always been skinny but i think hes alittleto skinny.  Also i noticed that he doenst like to eat his food around the older
ferret, he seems kinda hesitant and get the food and hides behind my bed and eats..

sorry about the grammer its late and im worried.. you know us ferret owners..


please reply asap if possible.. before i go to the vet..


Steve tietze


owner of Smokey and Bear..
From: foley@phoebus.meteor.wisc.edu (Jonathan Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: ferrets and puppies?
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:00:05 GMT
Reply-To: foley@meteor.wisc.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Center for Climatic Research

Howdy All:

Does anyone out there have suggestions for the happy integration of
ferrets with a new puppy?  I have 3 active adult ferrets (2 boys and
a girl) and we are thinking about getting a puppy (a 10 week old
airedale).  Any suggestions?  They have met once already, and the 
puppy didn't try to eat them or anything...just a little curious...but
the ferrets didn't seem too happy about the situation.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Jon
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From: mjg@sso.larc.nasa.gov (Marston J. Gould)
Subject: Re: Help paraniod Ferret user (RE:weight)
Reply-To: mjg@sso.larc.nasa.gov (Marston J. Gould)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:20:58 GMT

I'm not totally sure what's wrong with your ferret since mine have always been huge.
(As opposed to fat) Of my two ferrets, both were skinny when I got them. But I put them
on a strict diet of Iams (probably the best food out there) and large doses of Linotone
(which they can't get enough of as far as there concerned) Absolutely no foods high in
sugar. The remarkable think is that both of my pets are much bigger than anyone else's
ferrets I've seen (which are about 70 or so that a friend of a friend of mine keeps in her
back porch as a ferret orphanage) Also, I have never, never seen my ferrets change 
there coat. Instead, they always have a high gloss coat that is very thick and long. I
think the major reason for this is the Linotone which is basically a Vitamin B complex.
You might check with your vet (I really cannot stress this enough, I've seen ferrets deteriorate
in little time, the best medicine is to get things fixed early, not to wait and see) It might
be that all he needs are some boosts in vitamins. Somewhere I remember seeing test 
they did on rats and mice showing what the difference was between a particular vitamin
when it was removed or added to their diet. Oh and by the way, never, never feed your
ferret wet cat food. The stuff is just about the lowest in nutrition out there. The reason
any animal prefers wet over dry is because it tastes like candy to them. How many
people out there would rather eat the chocolate brownie mix rather than a nice salad
even though its not all that great for them?

Marston Gould
Owner of Augie (3 years)
and Roo( 22 months)


Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: seedman@iastate.edu (John D Turnipseed)
Subject: Re: Guest post
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:37:03 GMT


	I would use a 25% solution bleach, first.  Followed by two rinsings 
of hot water spaced about a day apart.

					-=- Seedman

Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: pholland@iastate.edu (Paul J Hollander)
Subject: Re: My First Iguana, part 1
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:18:47 GMT

In article <92098.222409IO00844@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> (((ZERO))) 
<IO00844@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
> (Deleted)
>be.  A piece of driftwood or clean (sealed and mite free) piece of wood is
>also recommended as a perch, gym, and 'shade'.
> (Deleted)

I agree that iguanas and other lizards need a piece of wood to climb on, but 
how can I seal it and still use it?  I tried putting polyurethane varnish on
some wooden perches when I kept ringneck doves, and they didn't like it.  It
was too slippery, and they used the raw wood, dung-encrusted perches instead.
And as soon as the lizard digs its claws into the wood to climb, the wood
is no longer sealed.

If anyone has a solution, I'd sure like to know it.

Paul Hollander    pholland@iastate.edu
Behold the tortoise: he makes no progress unless he sticks his neck out.
From: MAIOLOJJ@CAB.MRS.UMN.EDU (Spike)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: More problems with Green Iguanas...
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:48:00 GMT


	Howdy Herpers.

	Got a question for ya.  Maybe you've all answered this a hundred
times already, and I just missed it, but I'm gonna ask anyway.
	My green iguana is now almost a year old, and up until this 
point has been wonderful to handle.  There's never been a problem with
handling him, in or out of his cage.  But now, he seems to have picked
up an attitude.  I can hardly drop food in his cage without him getting
all aggressive towrds me, lashing his tail, hissing, and trying to bite
me.  In fact, the little bastard got a hold of me several times and actually
drew blood twice!  Is he just going through one of those pubescent/adolescent
phases that he'll grow out of, or do I just suddenly have a mean iguana?
	Last night, I took him out to feed him, and he bit me.  Again.
Now I'm not a jumpy person, but when you get bit, and it HURTS, you flinch.
The iguana hit the floor running, took off across the room, where he thumped
headlong the glass front of a snake cage.  He bounced off that, kept running,
thumped into a closed door(didnt he see it?  I wasnt chasing him yet. Just
standing there looking at the blood welling from my finger.) and then
ended up under the couch.  When I look under the couch to see what he's
doing, I see him dragging his front left leg.  I'm thinking he bruised it
or something and that he'll be ok.  This morning, he's STILL not using it.
He CAN use it when he wants to, but I dont think he likes it.  Any ideas?
Did he break his leg?  Is it possible for a vet to reset a leg that's not
even the size of my pinky finger?
	Hell, right now I'm open to any and all suggestions/advice.
	Post it or E-mail direct.  I'll let ya'll know how it works out.


		love and peace and other indoor sports
				-Josh
				maiolojj@cab.mrs.umn.edu
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From: jkusters@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (The Chrome Jester)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: What to do about mites?
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:22:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: rat.1992Apr08.062204.18737
Organization: Cal Poly State Univ,CSC Dept,San Luis Obispo,CA 93407

I just noticed (about 10 minutes ago) that my iguana's tank has picked
up a mite infestation.  I've been told that the correct procedure is
to get a dog or cat flea collar and cut a small piece off of it and
leave it in the tank.  What do you all think of this solution, and do
you have an alternative?

Thanks,
JOhn.
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From: gg02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GABRIELLA GRAD)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: RE: Green iguana: alive or dead
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:10:52 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


The last time I was in Montreal, I saw something similar to this.  My
boyfriend and I were doing the pet store rounds.  We were visiting one store
of a large and usually very well kept chain.  This chain has recently started
dealing in herps and up to that day I had been impressed with them.  They had
many green iguanas in a big cage, but also had 2 others in a much smaller 10
gal tank.  The smaller of these 2 igs looked pretty good.  The larger one was
in serious trouble.  He had great color - real bright green - but was
suffering from severe calcium defficiency.  He had rubber jaw, and his back
legs were extremely swollen.  As if that were not enough, the store employees
had left some feeder crickets in the cage.  The younger ig was hanging onto
the mesh on the top of the tank, however, the older ig was in no shape to do
such accrobatics.  Consequently, the crickets had started to eat the lizard.
As I watched, a cricket climbed onto the ig and stuck its head into a small
hole in the iguana's side and proceeded to feed.  I had never seen anything so
disgusting in a pet store before.  I quickly called over an employee and made
him notice what was going on.  All he said was " Yes, this iguana is sick".
What a revelation.

I personally would have put the ig into a jar with some chloroform and put the
thing out of its misery.

However, the pet store is out to make a profit, and if they can sucker some
naive buyer (which I was one of not too long ago) into actually purchasing
this animal, then they have done what they set out to do.

Gaby
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