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From: swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: New Disney Poster!!!
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:03:12 GMT


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From: mglicksman@loyola.edu (Michael `SLAM' Glicksman)
Subject: WDW Video Tapes
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:22:00 GMT

	I was wondering if anyone can tell me about the videos "A DAY AT THE
MAGIC KINGDOM" and "A DAY AT THE EPCOT CENTER." I saw these in the Disney
Holiday Merchandise catalogue. How long are they, and what is included on them?
Is there a similar video available for MGM STUDIOS?

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From: gt9291b@prism.gatech.EDU (The Spam Lord)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Pinnochio Video Re-Release in March?
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:09:17 GMT
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Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1ihj8jINN161@phantom.gatech.edu> dsm@phantom.gatech.edu (Danny McGurl) writes:
>Well, I was one of the local disney stores recently and they were
>accepting preorders for it until March 22 or so, which would mean that
>it should be delivered in late March or early April.  

You can get it now and it will be ready to pick up on March 24.

>1) The are giving away a neat Pinocchio Lithograph with purchase
You better get it now.  The Disney store I got it from all but said that it
was a very limited time feature.  Probably after February or so they'll stop,
I'm assuming.  It's the one that will be in the collectors box.

>2) You now have a choice between a watch and a 5$ disney gift certificate
>   with purchase (Which means it can actually be worthwhile to get the movie
>   from a Disney store this time)...
You had that choice for BatB also... I know, I got the watch and the gift
certificate (because the watch that first came in was defective... they had
to mail them to everyone who requested them, and gave them certificates
at the time of pickup.)

>3) The watch is much nicer than previous ones.  I suspect it's an apology for
>   the problems with some of the earlier watches...
Yeah, the BatB watch bites.  It's very cheaply made... I got it to wear to
places that are too dangerous for my other nice Mickey watches... (I'm up to
5 now... about to get a new one.  Got all 5 in one month somehow or another
as gifts.  Life is great.)
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From: clawton@tfs.com (Chris Lawton)
Subject: Disney Music
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:22:57 GMT

	Speaking of Disney music, the Community Band that I play in (I 
play trombone) just finished a winter concert where we played a medley of
songs from Beauty and the Beast.  It was great fun to play the music and
not just listen to it! :)  The renditions of Be Our Guest, Gaston and
Transformations were very true to the original score and it gave me chills to
play this music!

	The point is, if play in a large group, get some Disney music to play!
It's loads of fun!  If you don't play, find somewhere to hear it performed
live.  It's well worth the effort.

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	Chris Lawton		I'm not that debonnair,
	Pleasanton, CA		I'm just a silly hare.
	clawton@TFS.com		If you want class, I'll have to pass,
				So go get Fred Astair!
				
				Roger Rabbit (Roger's Song) -
				Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

I'm going to Disney on Ice!!  (Feb. in the SF Bay area)
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Subject: Re: Jafar.... hmmmm
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:58:29 PST
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield
Keywords: Grinch?

I thought so too.

Jennifer
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From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Observations regarding TLM
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:31:23 GMT
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In article <1993Jan9.231145.3739@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.012910.23048@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monas
>h.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>>
>>3.  Just how many feathers does Scuttle lose in the entire film?  And
>>howcome he can still fly even minus these feathers?  Or is this somthing
>>like the bumblebee which isn't supposed to be able to fly either?
>What bumblebee?

He meant *real* bumblebees, which seem to defy several laws of
aerodynamics.

>>6.  What *is* it that Grimsby says to Eric just before Eric says "A girl
>>rescued me"?
>"Oh, Eric I do think you delight in these strains on my blood pressure."
>Or something very much like that.

That's close--it goes something like this: "Oh, you really delight in
these sadistic strains on my blood pressure, don't you?"

I'm not sure about the word "sadistic," but it sure sounds like it.

>>16. Why does everyone persist in this idea that mermaids are *fish?*
>>There is quite a lot of evidence to suggest that they are mammals:
>There is quite a lot of evidence to suggest they WERE fiction.

Then why does the label on my can of tuna say "Mermaid-safe," hmmm? :-)

>>19. Did Scuttle *really* not notice Ariel's newly-acquired legs, or was
>>it just a show?  I think not.
>It was a show.

By the way Scuttle said "I know that," he sounded like he actually
knew, as opposed to trying to cover it up.  There's a subtle
difference.

>>22. Did Vanessa/Ursula really need to "hypnotise" Eric after he threw
>>the recorder into the sea?  Or was this just a little bit of insurance?
>>After all, Vanessa was just what he had been looking for. . . .
>Insurance.

I still think that Ariel's voice has some kind of hypnotic power.  I'm
sure Ursula was aware of it, and used it for that purpose (for
insurance).  Note that the magic light which spellbinds Eric comes
from the shell that contains Ariel's voice.  He had to hear her
voice to marry her anyway, so the hypnosis was inevitable.  Hmmm,
then why didn't it work just after Ariel saved Eric from drowning?
Maybe there wasn't enough exposure.

>>24. Where did that dress Ariel wears as she walks out of the shallows
>>into Eric's arms at the end come from?
>It was magic that let her walk out of the waves, I suppose it could clothe
>her too.

I'm still wondering where her shoes came from when she was on the
wedding ship....


- Robert Cook
From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Observations regarding TLM
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:24:40 GMT

In <1993Jan6.012109.20280@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:

[Sebastian and the thimble]
>It disappears then reappears then disappears.  Doesn't sound very likely
>to me. . .

Hmmm.  I only remember it disappearing once, when he was going to take
Ariel home and give her "something warm to drink....".  Or did it also
disappear when Flounder and Ariel asked him not to tell Triton?  I don't
think so, but I don't remember, haven't watched it in a whole week.  :)

>(I forgot that Flounder (capital F) has got a horizontal tail.  That
>just adds to the question I mentioned in #3.)

He had a horizontal tail when Ariel grabbed them during "Part of Your
World".  But when Ursula was watching Ariel and him in the beginning,
his tail was swaying left and right, not up and down like Ariel.  And
he was *not* swimming sideways.  :)

Truth to tell, I think his tail was vertical more often than it was
horizontal.  But, then again, I didn't really pay much attention to
his tail.


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From: dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stephen Dierdorf)
Subject: Re: Every Seven Years? (was Re: Finally found The Little Mermaid!!!)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:22:04 GMT

In article <C0ozKF.74q@babbage.ece.uc.edu> tmcbraye@thor.ece.uc.edu (Tim McBrayer) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.203218.15574@news.acns.nwu.edu>, 
>                        dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stephen Dierdorf) writes:
>|> 	Disney has always had a re-release schedule for its animated
>|> movies; they re-release their films theatrically every seven years. 
>
>I've heard the above quoted as canon innumerable times.  Has anyone actually
>verified this?  With 31 animated features, this would mean 4+ are released
>each year.  I'm not doubting it, I'm just wondering if it really is _always_
>seven years or if it just seems like it. :-)
>
>
>-- 
>Tim McBrayer

I used to work at the Disney Store, and that's what was given to us
cast members straight from the mouse's mouth :) I don't believe that
all of their animated features are on this schedule. For instance,
the original The Rescuers was just recently released for the first
time, and I don't believe that The Aristocats has ever been released
(I'm not positive about that, though.) As far as I know, this is
still Disney's policy, but I stopped working at TDS two years ago,
so they certainly could have changed since then. If anyone has more
recent information, please post it or email me (or both). I hate
being wrong (especially about Disney stuff)! :)

		Scott Dierdorf
		dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu


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From: Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid)
Subject: Re: The seven dwarves
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:33:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.021805.26160@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>In <1993Jan5.011903.23315@samba.oit.unc.edu> Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid) writes:
>
>>>I think the correct spelling is "dwarfs", which is pronounced "dwarves".
>>>Look up that in a dictionary.  When Tolkien did "Lord of the Rings" he
>>>chose the latter spelling for some reason.  He says that the reason is
>>>given in one of the numerous appendices but the page references in my
>>>copy are all garbled and I never managed to find it.
>
>>My Dictionary ( American Heritage) says that both spellings correct. They
>>have the same pronounciation for both.
>
>It's possible that this dictionary has taken up the "v" version *after*
>Tolkien.  I don't know how old the "American Heritage" dictionary is;
>Try having a look in a dictionary that is fifty years old, if you just
>happen to have one . . .  I'll have a look in some other dictionaries
>tonight.
>
>Tim Pickett.
>

I found it this way first in the 1992 addition, but I just checked my fathers
dictionary and it is the same. It is from 1949, not quite 50 years. I'm not
sure how fast a word from a book would be icorperated into a langauge.

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From: pyramus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Brooks Meador)
Subject: Re: Jafar...hmmmm
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 02:06:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.143005.21374@samba.oit.unc.edu> Jerald.Thomas@launchpad.unc.edu (Jerald Thomas) writes:
>
>>Is it just me, or did anyone else think that Jafar looked a little like
>>the Grinch (side view)?
>
>Absolutely! I thought that his teeth and his grin had a strong similarity.
>
i always thought that jafar looked like joan crawford...

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From: Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid)
Subject: aladdin ads
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:49:20 GMT

IMHO, disney did a bad job in advertising for Aladdin. Between the telvision,
and the disney store screen, i knew the plot and had already all af the songs.
In fact I knew all of the Lyrics to "arabian nights" before the movie was 
released.

just a thought.

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From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Subject: Camping at WDW
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:38:44 GMT

My girlfriend and I are planning a trip to WDW the first week in March. 
I am looking for information of campgrounds in the area that are
clean and fairly nice. What should I expect to pay per night?
How far am I from the Magic Kingdom, etc. Any info is greatly appreciated.
I *hope* that camping would be much more economical that getting
a hotel/motel. If this is not true, anyone recommend a reasonable
place to stay?

Thanks in advance for any help,
Rodney Boles

From: kellee@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kellee Noonan)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:21:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: DIS Stock - early 80's (The break up of Disney)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
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/ hpcc01:rec.arts.disney / cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO) /  6:27 am  Jan  6, 1993 /

Somebody else was interested in the resorts.  And believe it or not, I
heard that plans were made to CLOSE WED Enterprises.  WED Enterprises
is now WDI - Walt Disney Imagineering.  They believe that the design
work could be done much more cheaply by outsiders.

John Heiden


This part about closing WED was true according to my sources. My father's
cousin has been an Imagineer a long time (Walt hired him to work on the
new tomorrowland). In 1986 I was looking for a job as a newly graduated  
engineer. I asked about the requirements and possible openings and was
told that Disney was going to go to all contract workers. It seems
that after gearing up for EPCOT, they had an excess of people and the
future plans were being scaled back, so they wanted the flexibility
of contractors.

kellee
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Just Saw Aladdin...
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:59:35 GMT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

I know this isn't exactly what you had in mind, but from B&tB, Mrs. Potts is
a mom.
Hold on... .sig under revision.  Well, shoot.  I'll be right back.
From: Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: More on Disney Women
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:11:43 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1993Jan6.101012.14462@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:
>Steven Chung (ssc@nwu.edu) wrote:
>: In article <1993Jan5.073825.13469@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:
>: # But Belle just looks so much better!
>
>: Must be that stray lock of hair.
>
>: -- 
>: ssc@nwu.edu | "I wasn't even good at the Nintendo of this!"
>
>--
>Nope...  It is the hair, to tell the truth.... Its the way it is (I can't 
>describe it) at the top left and right of her forehead, where it kinda 
>comes out....  Ladies (who probably can tell me what I'm talking about
>since some of you might wear your hair like that) could I get some help here?
>
I know what you are talking about. Its a combination between her intependent
personality and that one lock of hair that makes me give her my vote for #1
Disney Babe.

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From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Mickey and the Beanstalk Ride
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Jan 93 06:17:59 CST
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After seeing Mickey and the Beanstalk again, and thinking about Splash
Mountain, I thought about an idea for a new Disney theme park ride based
on that movie.
 
Why not have a rollercoaster which has cars riding up and down a beanstalk,
interspersed with audio-animatronics of the Giant, Mickey, Goofy, Donald,
the Singing Harp, and other characters from Mickey and the Beanstalk?
 
I think it would be fun!

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From: ssc@nwu.edu (Steven Chung)
Subject: TLM questions (was re: rec.arts.disney)
Summary: I can't believe I'm answering this
Originator: schung@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:15:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.234712.19470@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> f012@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu writes:
# 
# The one that keeps me up nights is, where are Eric's parents?  They weren't
# even at the wedding...if he has no parents, why is he Prince and not King?
# Unless he has a brother who is King, but even so you'd think he'd be at the
# wedding......the overall feeling you get is that 'the kingdom' is Eric's
# kingdom, but in that case he should either have parents or be the King...

If he hasn't reached his majority, Eric could be ineligible to be king
until he gets a bit older.  Probably he rules through a nominal
regent--this is a nice movie; no worries about land-power struggles.

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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: rec.arts.disney
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:07:43 GMT

In <1993Jan5.231619.15709@samba.oit.unc.edu> Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid) writes:
>>
> I noticed that he should be king, but since this is a "kids" movie
>it would put Eric in less an equal position. He would be more like the kids
>father and less like brother/peer. Ariel being a princess also would make a
>generation gap. Plus all fairy tails have prince/princess main characters.

Rationalising the film by considering the intended audience?  Come on,
we can't have that. . . :)

Tim Pickett
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Observations regarding TLM
Date: 6 Jan 1993 04:14:45 GMT
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In article <1993Jan6.012109.20280@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>In <1icflgINNr3g@network.ucsd.edu> rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
>
>>In article <1993Jan5.012910.23048@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>>>
>
>Flounders don't really look like that, do they?

They don't start out that way, but as they mature one of their eyes
migrates to the other side.  Once both eyes are on one side of the
head, they take to swimming horizontally on the sea floor.  Weird,
eh?

>(I forgot that Flounder (capital F) has got a horizontal tail.  That
>just adds to the question I mentioned in #3.)

He sometimes has a horizontal tail; sometimes it is vertical. :-)  I
haven't watched the film in a while, as I've said, but I could swear
that his tail is vertical when he swims most of the time.  It
becomes horizontal, for instance, when he tries to demonstrate
"feet" for Ariel (Ariel sings "What do you call'em?").

>Oh, dear, oh, dear, oh, dear.  No one talks to an Australian like that
>and gets away with it!  Come here and have a little lesson! :)
>
>There are two species of monotreme in the world - the "duck-bill" platypus
>and the "spiny anteater" echidna (the latter is the one you mention).
>Technically they *are* mammals, for the reason given above, but they
>certainly are an almost obsolete model.

Okay, okay, I admit that I deliberately combined the features of
the platypus and the echidna--it was just a little analogy.  The
basic (and probably arguable) features that a mammal must have are
warm-bloodedness (homoiothermal), fur, and live birth.  Everyone
uses a different definition, and there are always exceptions (I
consider monotremes mammals, albeit primitive ones).  Mermaids
could easily be called mammals; I think you asked why they generally
aren't.

>O.K., then why is it that she can't swim *at* *all* in human mode?
>surely there would be *some* vestigial ability to propel herself in the
>water.

What if your boat motor just died and you never learned to row?  She
probably could have swum had she tried, but there wasn't time for
much practice.
>
>WASP would pronounce it.  But how does he know?  Ariel isn't that common
>of a name.  He doesn't know the crab is Jamaican -- in fact, he doesn't
>even know crabs can speak.

Actually, he didn't know that a crab was speaking to him.

>>And I thought that I was crazy for merely responding to this post. ;-)
>
>You are, but not as crazy as me. :)

Just let me get warmed up! :-)


- Robert Cook
From: kiuchi@sumax.seattleu.edu (Tuff Hedelman fan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Favorite Female Disney Cartoon Characters
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:22:01 GMT
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This search for an in as a trainee for Disney animation folks has seemed to come
to a hopeless end. Oh well, anyways, though, keeping with the spirit of things,
here are my picks for favorite female Disney cartoon characters (for 92): 
1. Belle (of Beauty and the Beast)  
2. Pistol (from Goof Troop) 
3. P.J.'s mother (don't know name) (Goof Troop) 
4. Gasselyn (sp?) (DarkWing Duck) 
5. LP's female boss.. (don't remember her name either) (TaleSpin)  
6. Gadget (Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers) 
7. Jasmine (from Aladdin) 

1best-7okay 

just my .02

kevin
From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: BatB Magic (was Re: Just Saw Alladin...
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:04:09 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid) writes:

>Maybe chip was born after the enchantment. Who knows maybe magic spells 
>can be inherited. I don't know who the father would be, but it was just an
>idea.
Mr. Coffee??
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