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Subject: Language and bibliography at  your favorite server.
Reply-To: borrel@dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:48:02 GMT


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From: rached@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rached Zantout)
Subject: Re: Hoss outstanding (was Re: Lebanon corporation?)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:01:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.000127.7580@njitgw.njit.edu>, elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad) writes:
> 
> We've had already 3 failing prime ministers. Karami, Hoss, Solh.
> I guess Hariri would soon join the collection. But time will tell.
> 

> Elie.


Elie

IMHO, the three failing PM's should be:


Aoun, Karami and Solh, with three stars for Aoun on a job well done.


rached
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: soufi@cs.uiuc.edu (Khaled S. Soufi)
Subject: Re: Films. (Part 2 of 2)
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:22:13 GMT

fahs@ecf.toronto.edu (FAHS Samir M) writes:

[...]

>The Movies are:

[...]

>                (2)  Wedding in Galilee      (1987)
>                     Monday, November 30, 6:30 p.m.

I did watch this movie in Washington DC few years ago and I thought it
was very dull.  I thought the scenes were incoherent--I couldn't
manage to put everything together (and I think I stayed awake
throughout).  The erotic scene was in bad taste too but then I am one
of those who believe there is *no* erotic scene in good taste--showing
women naked is definitely demeaning, especially in the Arabic culture,
the Palestinian in particular.  In fact, I thought the context in
which the erotic scene was played was irrelevant. It looked as though
it was simply a desire to film the Armenian actress naked just so that
the film would be said to contain an erotic scene!  

I do like to know what others might think about the film after they
watch it.  I am looking forward to hearing your comments Samir.  By
the way, I watched the movie with 5 other people and 3 of them had a
different taste from mine (they thought it was okay).

-- 
+-----------Khaled Soufi-------------+--------------------------+
|   Department of Computer Science   | email: soufi@cs.uiuc.edu |
| U. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign | phone: (217)244-2274 (W) |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: rached@blanc.eng.ohio-state.edu (rached)
Subject: Re: New "RENT" law in Lebanon.
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:46:05 GMT

In article <BxK3Gy.9Ko@hsi.com> noujaim@hsi.com (Nazih G. Noujaim) writes:
>
>Does anyone know anything about a new law in Lebanon where if the renter is
>not living in the house and the landlord wants the house, the landlord can
>come in and live in the house even if rent is being paid.
>
>If anyone has any details on this new law, can you E-mail any info. The
>latest I heard was that it was passed sometime in august and the renter has
>6 month to move back to the house otherwise the landlord can take the house
>back.
>
>thanks
>
>Nazih
>-- 
>----------- noujaim@hsi.com -----------------------         333 M   M
>--------------{uunet, yale}!hsi!noujaim -----------          33 MM MM
>----------------Nazih G. Noujaim ------------------         333 M M M   
>------------------Wallingford, Conn. 06492 --------  3M-Health  Info.  Systems 

I thought that this was the law even before August. If the Landlord can
proove that the tenant has not used his/her home for a specific period
of time, the tenant can be asked to move out. This applies for example
to people who have rented a house since the 50's with a very low rent
and for example immigrated to USA, they prefer to keep their house in
Lebanon just in case. Well they have to give it up if they are not using
it. Also if the landlord's son or daughter gets married then they can
ask one of the tenants to move out. How this is done I don't know and
what period is given to the tenant and also what are the conditions.

rached

Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: fahs@ecf.toronto.edu (FAHS Samir M)
Subject: Re: The Syrian Record 
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:54:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov.@njitgw.njit.edu> elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad) writes:

>
> Well, it is interesting that Samir (who has at many times defended
> Syria's presence in Lebanon because "its a strategic concern") goes
> 


The explanation of the syrian incompliance to fully withdraw immediately
following the 1982 israeli invasion (The Syrian army was only stationed 
in the Bekaa Valley at the time) as being of strategic nature does not 
mean an unconditional support for a continued Syrian military presence.



-- 
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Samir M. Fahs  |       One says a lot in vain, refusing;
Uni of Toronto |       The other mainly hears the "No."       Goethe.
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From: elie@sensors.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: reward
Date: 8 Nov 92 14:47:42 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov8.122516.21816@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz") writes:
>===============================================================================
>             rrrr     eeee   w   w   w    aaaaa    rrrr      ddd  
>             r   r    e       w     w     a   a    r   r     d   d
>             rrrr     eee     w  w  w     aaaaa    rrrr      d   d 
>             r   r    e        w   w      a   a    r   r     d   d
>             r    r   eeee     w   w      a   a    r    r    d d
>===============================================================================
>

[...]

>                 ======== Elie  Mourad ========
>
>
>  ========I pay 10000LL for any one who can keep this man silent.==========

I guess the Ayatollah Ibrahim Ruhollah Ballouz has spoken. :-)
I must admit its pretty funny. 
On the downside, probably everyone now thinks you're a nutcase.

Regards, Elie.

--

                                 ________
________________________________/--------\______________________________________
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: eliedw@hedda.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)
Subject: Re: Suspended Dreams
Organization: UiO
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:15:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.034419.24083@prism.poly.edu> medawar@prism.poly.edu
(Bassem Medawar) writes:
>The following is the text of a flyer by the Save Lebanon organization.
>
>bassem
>
>
>	Through the eyes of two ex-militia fighters from Beirut, a woman
>	searching for her missing husband, and a playwright from southern 
>	Lebanon, this film tells the story of a people's struggle to 
>	reconstruct their lives after a long and devastating war.
>
>
>			    By Jean Chamoun & Mai Masri
>	    An MTC (Beirut) production for BBC Television (England) 1992
>
>	Jean Chamoun will be available to answer questions after the showing.
>	AND Dr. JAMES ZOGBY, CHAIRMAN OF SAVE LEBANON, WILL DISCUSS OUR WORK!
>
>	Date:	TUESDAY NOVEMBER 17, 1992
>
>	Place:	UNITED METHODIST OFFICE FOR THE U.N.
>		777 U.N. PLAZA, NEW YORK 212-682-3633
>
>	TIME:	7:15 PM
>
>	Donations:	$10
>			$7-- STUDENTS
>
>	For more information, call:	HOUSAM HALABY AT 212-683-1040
>					WISSAM ABDUL KHALEK AT 202-429-2505
>
>	Save Lebanon, Inc., a nonprofit charitable organization helping the 
>	people of Labanon.  All contributions are tax-deductible.
>
>

I saw the film. It was generally good.

It had some stuff from every side. Of course, the Syrian occupation was not
mentioned with one word!  :(

This film shows much that Lebanon, naive or foolish, did the dirty work for
their own leaders and for foreign interests.

I would recomend the film!


elie wardini
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: 9999sc01@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alexandre Khalil)
Subject: Re: A Call to Political Action(was the Syrian record)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
X-Lunar-Date: 3 days, 9 hours, 36 minutes since the first quarter of the moon
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:14:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov07.175729.11347@eng.umd.edu>, ziad@eng.umd.edu (Ziad K. Cheiban) writes...

>In article <1992Nov4.143900.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> fardoun_a@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:

>[  Quote from report on Syrian abuses of human rights deleted.]

[..expression of just indignation deleted...]

>>A. Fardoun

>					 There was a post a while back 
>from Youssef Fawaz that talked about how our political elites kept (and still
>keep ) us divided, and isolated  to rule. In view of all that you would be
>doing both us, and the people you care about a big favor by keeping us
>informed. Political awareness has to precede any sensible political action.
>Peace!
> 
> 
> 
>"They're pointing out the enemmy
>To keep you deaf and blind
>They wanna sap your energy
>Incarcerate your mind"
>			Dire Straits (Industrial Disease)

  A while back, one of us reappeared on s.c.l. when a thread on Ziad, 
Qa@bur and others was started.  I will quote him from memory: "I like 
the articles on s.c.l. these days.  Can you tell ?"

  I appreciate the works of those artists, and loved the thread during its 
all too short life.  But, it is rather articles like Youssef's and Ziad's 
that keep me reading.

  They remind us that beyond petty quarrels, there is/should be a broader 
vision of the world to guide us.

alex khalil   alex@dt.uh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: wsaba@csi.UOttawa.CA (Walid Saba)
Subject: Marcel Khalife
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 19:50:08 GMT

I just saw Marcel in Ottawa (couple of weeks back) and he was just 
amazing. His new music, and his well-known responsible message of
true love of country, humanity, and just causes were self evident.

He impressed the people from our part of the world as well as Canadians
and other nationals. He's someone that makes us proud.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: eliedw@hedda.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)
Subject: Re: CLAO and the "israeli" occupation.
Organization: UiO
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:42:52 GMT

In article <BxGu2M.1pC@ecf.toronto.edu> fahs@ecf.toronto.edu (FAHS Samir M)
writes:
>The following short note is not being made as an effort to correct CLAO. Any
>such effort would mean that certain expectations are there, and they are not;
>since, as stated earlier, what they stand for and the ideology they represent
>are very well known.
>
>This is only an attempt to point out some of the errors of accepting 
>CLAO's treatment of Syria's presence in Lebanon and "israel's" occupation 
>for what it is.

I am sort of bewildered by Samir's comments.

First can Samir tell us what is soooo well known about CLAO's ideology?

Then little by little, we find out what Samir's ideology is:

Israeli OCCUPATION and Syrian PRESENCE.

well this may be your position. your prerogative.

Yet Ironically you present the "needs" and "concernes" of Lebanese as if you in
fact are the sole arbiter and expert on the subject.

You also seem to be the chief source for statistics, since you know how the
different groups (the far majority) of Lebanese identify themselves.

Samir has actually not accepted that his views (as a whole) can reresent the
views of a small group of Lebanese. Maybe very many of the poor people whose
rights Samir seems to want to defend, see it that in fact their material and
security well-being is in fact attached to the withdrawal of the Syrian
occupying forces from Lebanon.

Yes Samir many Lebanese have been living worlds apart, and it seems to me that
you are a good Lebanese in this respect. You want to speak for the destituted
or poor, etc. supposing that their views conform with yours.

Let me tell you the following:

my family do not have the right to become president
my family do not have the right to become prime minsiter
my family do not have the right to become speaker of parliament
my family do not have the right to be chief of police or army
my family do not even own the home we live in or own any property
my family do not have enough savings to afford anybody getting sick

my family disagrees with you fully!


>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Samir M. Fahs



elie wardini
From: bent@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: The treaties.
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:13:41 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Nov11.053029.26702@njitgw.njit.edu>, elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie 
I. Mourad) writes:

> Michel Touma of L'Orient Le Jour said that at the end of this week or the 
> beginning of next week a meeting of the so-called Lebanese-Syrian 
> Higher Council will be held comprising members of the Hrawi
> and Assad regimes to discuss the implementation of clauses in the
> Brotherhood Treaty.
 
> (This ought to be fun to watch)

Elie:
	I am glad that you brought this information to the attention of the 
(non-French speaking) readers of the newsgroup.  However, I do not 
appreciate your cynicism and sarcasm - it is not very fun or funny to me.

							Benjamin Tanner
							bent@yang.earlham.edu
From: elie@sensors.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: reward
Date: 11 Nov 92 05:53:07 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov10.193935.3970@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz") writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.145004.13557@njitgw.njit.edu> elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad) writes:

>Anyway, I don't want to talk about the issue because I don't want to do like
>what you have been doing. You take few examples, and you imply that this is
>Islam.
>I could easily focus on BOSNIA, get examples from the western media and say:
>look at Xtianity, they are raping women, they are starving people to death,
>they are burning people alive. Newspapers are full of such stories.

That's a totally meaningless example given the fact that the Serbs
have had clashes with both Bosnians and Croats. Last time I checked
the Croats were not very Moslem :-) Try again Mr. Ballouz.

[irrelevant remarks deleted]

Regards, Elie.

--

                                 ________
________________________________/--------\______________________________________
From: ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: reward
Date: 8 Nov 92 12:25:16 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

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                 ======== Elie  Mourad ========


  ========I pay 10000LL for any one who can keep this man silent.==========
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* IBRAHIM BALLOUZ            **           DEPARTMENT OF ARCHITECTURE          *
* ccav38@uk.ac.strath.ccsun  **  STRATHCLYDE UNIVERSITY GLASGOW SCOTLAND U.K. *
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From: ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: reward
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:43:01 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

In article <1992Nov9.093514.13124@ulrik.uio.no> eliedw@hedda.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini) writes:
[.......]

>>>joke or not, such posts are condemnable! It is not funny and it is not
>>>acceptable! whether we agree with ElieM or not, whether we agree with Ibrahim
>>>Ballouz or not!
>>>
>>
>>If you find it that anti-social and repellent, then please accept my apology.
>
>I appreciate your stance Ibrahim. Thank you four your honesty and mostly you
>sincerity and humility. I did not mean my comments at you personally, and you
>maganged to read my words as a wise man. Thanks!
>

Elie, I am not polite more than you are, I am not more educated than you are.
I only posted the drawing in order to change the subject and in order to pass
an indirect remark to ElieM that I want his tune to be moderated.
I can feel that people are getting sick of these exchages and the language
used (a fault I share) and they want us to stop.

I used the word "silence" in order to tell him that "silence" is preferred to
over some of his provocative comments.

After the recent flames, I understand how the people are a bit jumpy. It does
not matter. The important thing is that you got the message.

Again, apology to the people who do regard the post as revolting.


>>I. Ballouz
>
>elie wardini

I. Ballouz



-- 
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* IBRAHIM BALLOUZ            **           DEPARTMENT OF ARCHITECTURE          *
* ccav38@uk.ac.strath.ccsun  **  STRATHCLYDE UNIVERSITY GLASGOW SCOTLAND U.K. *
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From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Syrian - Russian deal.
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:59:10 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


Good news. I wonder if the Russians cancelled the deal for other reasons :-)
I guess Syria's credit card has reached its limit :-)
Which means they need to produce more heroin in Lebanon.... :-)
I am always amazed where those Lebanese papers get their scoops from :-)

Elie.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: UPI
Subject: Exchange Rates
Reply-To: ayman@eecs.umich.edu
Organization: United Press International
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:20:53 GMT
X-Note: This article was automatically cross-posted to soc.culture.lebanon

[ Article cross-posted without permission ]

                      USD per LL      LL per USD
                      Thu     Wed     Thu     Wed

Lebanon pnd       .000512 .000512 1955.00 1955.00
From: saouma@inglis.Colorado.EDU (SAOUMA VICTOR E)
Subject: Re: reward
Reply-To: saouma@inglis.Colorado.EDU (SAOUMA VICTOR E)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:57:07 GMT

>>Elie replies:
>>
>>Hehehehe... I am Orthodox old chap! You lose again.
>>You're just making a total fool out of yourself. (as usual)
>>
>
>Oh! Dear oh dear, that explaints it all:   An inferiority complex!

Ibrahim, you are pathetic

Victor
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Wall Street Journal: Syrian Redeployment - Meaningless
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:57:09 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


"But many Lebanese, as well as experts in Washington, say the 
redeployment plan, which would move Syria's troops a relatively few miles from 
their current positions, is meaningless. The troops would remain
on Lebanese soil, and Syria's extensive intelligence apparatus would
continue to initmidate Lebanon's population."

"Critics of the administration charge that Washington has little
interest in the fate of Lebanon. Rather they see a pattern of appeasing
Syria...

"The US is believed to have given tacit approval in October 1990
when... Syrian troops... (ousted) Gen. Michel Aoun... Syria's massive
use of force tightened its grip on Lebanon.

"A congerssional aide who is critical of the administration says
the US could exert considerable leverage over Syria if it chose to"
(Aug. 10)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: eliedw@hedda.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)
Subject: Re: Hariri's corporation
Organization: UiO
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:36:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.170442.4393@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk
("I.Ballouz") writes:

etc. etc.

>Oh I know what is bothering you. It bothers you to see sincere people to come
>to government! I know that you are willing to go as long as it takes to prove 
>that we can't be trusted to take up high offices. I know that you want the PM
>to obtain his record from the justice ministry to show that he has no criminal
>offences! I know that you were willing to do everything to prove that the PM
>has got no right to be a PM because he worked in Saudi Arabia. I know you
>forgot that some time ago you were calling on the government to allow the
>people who emigrated 70000 years ago to vote but you asked us to allow you to
>question Mr Hariri and what he has done with his passport! Whether he measures
>up to be called Lebanese or not!
>Yes, I know what bothers you.

It seems like we have a break down in communication. I am sorry to have
offended you Ibrahim. It was never my intention.

It seems like we are arguing against each other's *MOTIVES*. This I believe is
difficult and surely open for misunderstanding and someone can get hurt.

Ibrahim, I do not know from which religion you are. So I could defenitely not
be against *YOU* and wanting to prove anything wrong about *YOU*.

I dont know what to say? I am sorry  :(

>I. Ballouz.


elie wardini