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Subject:      Re: Lexicalisation Process in SLA

With regard to the issue of sociolinguistic variation in L2, I believe
a fairly high level of competence needs to be reached before any true
differentiation depending on the interlocutor can occur. The task/interlocutor
variation that occurs earlier on is, in my opinion, merely psycholinguistic
in nature (largely attention to form/monitoring/cognitive load). Later, of
course, the advance L2 speaker can differentiate his/her speech as a function
of interlocutor independently of attention to form/cognitive resources.

With regard to "episodic memory" I do indeed believe that this is one of
the most obvious shortcomings of instruction between four walls: there is
none of the rich, "synesthetic" quality of memory traces that are the
result of experiences travelling abroad. Anybody having learned languages
in "the natural environmentprobably has vivid recollections of exchanges
exemplifying lexical meaning, grammatical cooccurrence patterns, and, of
course, degrees of politeness.

Robert DeKeyser
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Margaret, I'm really confused now.  Did you see a message from me
on SLART-L, because I sent one out on the subject of D&D, but it
didn't come across my screen.

What is the normal situation for messages that one sends out on nets?
Do you get them in your box too?  Or only does it go to others?
I was hoping to see it cuz sometimes these things lose text etc.

If a message from me came across the SLART-L net, could you forward
it to me?  Thanks, L.
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I hesitate to comment on this net cuz much of what comes back at
people sems to me to be overly nasty and unnecessary, but that
aside...

RE: D&D, I've seen a lot of comments about this that seem
uninformed.  I know about this cuz my son, Mike Selinker, has
been writing D&D modules and doing reporting on their community
(he's a reporter in Chicago) for about ten years, since he
was about 15.  One big advantage I had was to have a son at
Northwestern for four years who was earning an income all that
time.

Anyways, if someone on the net wants to talk through the
advantages (and dis-) of using D&D in a class with a person
on the inside, who has played D&D with international students
here at the ELI as a teen-ager, I could give you his phone
number, privately.

If you are interested, please message me: selinker@um.cc.umich.edu

Cheers,

Larry Selinker
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One of my graduate students is working on a project for which she is in
desparate need of an article which appeared in the journal International
Journal of Applied Linguistics, published in Olso. The specifics are

Elbro Carsten. (1991). Differences in reading strategies reflect differences
in linguistic abilities. vo1 (2). 228-244. If anyone on the network has
the paper and would be willing to share it, we would reimburse expenses
for copying and mailing. Also, if any of your libraries receives the journal,
we would be interested in hearing from you. Please contact me directly rather
than through the network.
Thanks.

--Jim
Jim Lantolf
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Subject:      ideas for technique papers on projects and games

hello every body:
my name is safaa shaheen ;i study a teaching methodology course at auc
im happy to join different groups that are interested in the same field im
interested in. The thing that im interestd in is ideas for technique papers
on projects or games that any foreign language teacher can make use of in
his or her teaching methodologies. in other words,strategies that any teacher
of a foreign language can use in the class room to make lessons more interesting
and more appealing and easy to learn. i will be very interested and happy if
i can see anybody who is interested in the same field so that to exchange ideas
and to learn new things from your experience in that field.

    another thing that im interested in also is what techniques do you use
to avoid fossilization in learning a foreign language . it known that if any
learner of a foreign language is not always corrected for whatever mistake
he makes, this will to fossilization.in other words this learner will hold these
 mistakes for ever because no body used to correct his or her language mistakes.
please help in that area and supply it with some examples from real experience.
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From:         Margaret VanNaerssen <mvnaerss@SAS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: your mail
              Nov 17, 92 2:45 pm

Larry, I think the network you meant to contact was the TESL one not the
SLART-L. I have heard from colleagues that there has been a lot on it re:
D&D in the classroom.  I don't think it has been on the SLART-L, at least
not since I've been back. Thanks for getting me John's email. He's sent me
a message.  Margaret vn
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Subject:      RE: Mental Lexicon

HI Nagwa! I wish you all the best for your interesting thesis topic.I wish
I could bew of any help. Unfortunately I can't but wish you good luck.
Love NadiaAbdallaCTRL/Z
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From:         "Hedy M. McGarrell" <hmcgarre@SPARTAN.AC.BROCKU.CA>
Subject:      Position

PLEASE NOTE:  The following announcement will appear in the December 1992 and
 January 1993 issues of University Affairs and CAUT:



                        BROCK UNIVERSITY
             DEPARTMENT OF APPLIED LANGUAGE STUDIES

Applications are invited for a tenure-track position (subject to final budgetary
 approval) at the rank of Assistant Professor.  Applicants should have a PhD and
 publications in Applied Linguistics, Second Language Acquisition, or a related
 area.  The position requires a background in linguistics and a demonstrated
 interested in methodology and curriculum design in second language education.
 An interest in sociolinguistics is desirable.  A research focus, commitment to
 excellent undergraduate teaching and effective communication skills are
 required.  The appointment is to begin July 1, 1993.

Candidates should submit a curriculum vitae and the names and addresses of three
 referees to send letters to:
              Dr. H. M. McGarrell, Chair
              Department of Applied Language Studies,
              Brock University, St. Catharines,    Ontario, L2S 3A1

Closing date for applications: February 1, 1993.  In accordance with Canadian
 immigration requirements, this advertisement is directed to Canadian citizens
 and permanent residents.  Brock University is committed to a positive action
 policy aimed at reducing gender imbalances in faculty.  Qualified women
 candidates are especially encouraged to apply.  Smoking at Brock University is
 strictly controlled.


Thank you for drawing the above to the attention of potential
candidates.  Hedy.


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From:         Barb <ENGBLK@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      lexical storage

To take Lydia Meunier-Cinko's discussion of lexical storage and retrieval a
bit further, context-sensitive lexical retrieval is quite interesting.
It appears that the context which defines an ambiguous word isn't
applied to make the distinction for, in this case, the reader until all
the meanings have been accessed.  For example, if a reader reads a
sentence like, "There were a lot of ants, spiders, and other bugs in the
basement," s/he will access both "insect life" and "devices used for
spying" for the term "bugs."  It is only later that the context of the
sentence identifies that "insect life" is the correct interpretation.
Perfetti and McCutchen have hypothesized that modular processing
accesses the first meanings, and the central executive processor then
disambiguates by applying real world knowledge from the context which is
built into the sentence.  Studies have shown that readers pull forward
all their stored meanings for a word in the initial lexical accessing
process, so it appears that there is a two part process that occurs in
interpretation of a word.

Lydia also points out that a word like "nurse" is retrieved faster if it
is primed by a word like "doctor," rather than an unrelated word like
"table."  This seems to make intuitive sense, but what I find
interesting is that if you have a word like "cow" which accelerates
accessing the word "milk," and a word like "bull" that accelerates
accessing a word like "cow," it has been found that, in the same subject
(person), "bull" will not access "milk" any quicker than an unrelated
word like "table" will.  This seems to indicate that the primer word
must have a direct connection to the word it is priming; words that may
be found in the same semantic field are not good enough unless there is
a direct connection.
                                      Barbara Kennedy
                                      University of Kentucky
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Subject:      Re: Phonemic symbols

Hi Margo

Thanks for the reply. Do you have any idea of how to get hold of the public
domain font you mentioned (International Phonetic)?

Richard
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I gather I really fouled up and sent stuff to everyone
intended not for everyone and anyways I wanted to send
something out on a different net.

Now how long have I been using computers?  10 years???

Spass beiseite,  Larry

selinker@um.cc.umich.edu
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Oh, how do I put a message on TESL then?  Thanks, L.
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Subject:      Re: Phonemic symbols

Richard--
        For the Mac you don't buy a "font card," you just install the
appropriate font in your system.  The best, though, is a commerically
available font called IPA-Plus, although there are some public-domain ones
like International Phonetic.
                                Cheers,
                                        Margo Burns
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From:         NADIAAB@EGAUCACS.BITNET
Subject:      RE: ideas for technique papers on projects and games

Hi Safaa,this is Nadia ABdalla. I'm interested in the same issues. Please
forward replies address NADIAAB doing the 510 as well.Thanks
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Robb, you're absolutely right.  This is the whole idiosynchrasy of research
in a field such as language.  Empirical research tells us to isolate
variables very carefully, whereas language  has an embedded stucture.  If
you want to study the particular aspect of mental lexicon you ought to isolate
it somehow, even if it is not the way we naturally process language.  At least
in psycholinguistics, that's the way they preceed.  When you speak of
stylicon, you are already including a stylistic aspect, which means not only
syntactic knowledge but also the issue of sociolinguistics.  Of course, this is
what language is about.  However, how do we conduct research?  Does that mean
that we ought to find another way to conduct research?  Shall we dump
statistical analysis and empirism?  Personally, I am up for that since empirism
does not fit language research as you very well pointed it out.  But if you
don't have any thing better to offer to conduct reserch, we are stuck with
so called "scientific" approaches.  Let's think about it!...

Regarding your questions related to manipualtions, most of them are unanswered
questions.  We have to raise them and try to find answers.  Thee is an article
by Potter and al. LEXICAL AND CONCEPTUAL REPRESENTATION IN BEGINNING AND
PROFICIENT BILINGUALS in Journal of Verabal Learning and Verbal Behavior (1984)
which found no support for the hypothesis that words of a second languagde are
directly associated to corresponding words in the first language, even in
nonfluent bilinguals.  Rqather, words in the two vocabularies are directly
associated to concepts that are not linguistic.  They actually say that naming
in a second language can be cued directly by pictures.

Again, the issue of boundary marking in mental lexicon access
is related to the whole issue of EMPIRICAL or NO EMPIRICAL study...  This is
the Question! Quantifying things is our big problem today...  We are stuck!
Does anyone have a better idea as to how to come up with a new trend of
research in the field of Second Language Acquisition?

Lydie Meunier-Cinko
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From:         "LLOYD HOLLIDAY, LA TROBE UNIV,
              EDUCATION" <EDULH@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Phonemic symbols

IPA Fonts for WordPerfect originally by Tim Montler were available for
FTfrom lth.se in the directory pub/pc/fonts/IPA.fonts The three files
required were drivers.exe
fonts.exe
readme.1st
I think they were also made available at nic.funet.fi a
quiche.cs.mcgill.ca

LLoyd Holliday
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Confirmation: message read at 14:46, 23 Nov 92
Subject: phonemic symbols

Mary Lee Scott
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From: htomita@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Hideo Tomita)
Subject: Re: mental lexicon
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:42:03 GMT

In article <9211152317.AA02995@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au> bert peeters <peeters@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU> writes:
 Would anyone care to tell me how I
>retrieve what I missed

>Anyone willing to help this poor soul?
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Let me  suggest to the manager of this list that the parameter setting for the
NOTEBOOK retrieval be changed from PRV(private) to ALL, so that the subscribers
can get the previous postings. (This is quite common to other lists.) I tried 
to help him and sent the command to the list ( get slart-l log9211), which did
not work.  Then, I found that the parameter was set only for the owner, which 
means, for now, only the manager can excute the above command (and get the all
postings for the whole month). The change can be easily made by asking the 
system operator.


Hideo Tomita
Kenyon/OSU
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              "RBSCOTT@CUTCV2.BITNET" at Nov 15, 92 3:34 pm

I've been away from SLART-L for half a year or so (maybe longer, maybe
not as long) and the first message I get upon having second thoughts
and resubscribing deals with the "mental lexicon". Now, boy, I must
surely have missed something, because that looks like it is squarely
at the centre of my research. Would anyone care to tell me how I
retrieve what I missed, or better still, send me the bits I want to
see? The message I saw was one whose author I didn't note (sorry) but
who recommended Sperber and Wilson's Relevance Theory (1986).

Anyone willing to help this poor soul?

Thanks!
Bert Peeters
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I would like to raise a question:  Are foreign language words,
learned (or at least introduced) in an instructional environment,
really linked to a sociolinguistic background?...   In our native
language, yes!  Is, however, the lexicalisation of a foreign language
associated wih the episodic memory the same way our native
language is?  Or is it that foreign language learners must
achieve a certain critical level of linguistic competence before
associating words with genuine sociolinguistic information?  Other
problem:  Can a foreign language classwroom really provide the necessary
sociolinguistics background for an "episodic" acquisition of vocabulary?

Lydie Meunier-Cinko      lcinko@arizona.edu   /   lcinko@arizvms
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From:         CIRED - Universita' di Ca' Foscari VENEZIA - ITALIA
              <cired@IVEMAC.UNIVE.IT>
Subject:      cross-cultural education

     I'm envolved in the structuring of a cross-cultural education
programme in view of a future (?) Europe. I do believe that
isolated experiences (visits abroad / students'exchanges / pen-
friend writing...) might not be effective, if they aren't integrated
in a coherent and intensely structured syllabus.

     I wonder if there's anybody who shares my point of wiew
 [D [D [Dand has planned/is planning to work on it. If so, please contact me.

Rosalia DI NISIO
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Subject:      Re: Phonemic symbols

Richard--
        If you would like, I can ftp it to you, since I have a copy.  Do you
have the program Binhex?  If you don't, I'll dig up where you can find it to
ftp.  Let me know a password that will let me in to put the file into your
account.
                        Cheers,
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Subject:      Re: your mail

And now for the dirt on some prominet researchers in our field and their
heinous errors and deceptions. No..no.. I'll leave it for the next highly
private letter sent by mistake via SLART-L!
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From:         markee@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Re: electronic publishing of journals by Pergamon

Fred said:

I believe he is referring to Carl Uncover -- which we can
>get on UIUCnet.  Have you tried it?
>
>Fred
>
>
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>The November 11th issue of the Chronicle of Higher Education (it is the
>issue which reports on the results of the election) has an article about
>libraries (in Colorado I believe) that have a networked system which lists
>all the journal holdings.  A user requests a copy of an article for
>$6.50 plus whatever the copy and transmission costs might be.  If there
>is a copyright fee, that will also be included.
>
>Has anyone used this system?  How satisfied are you with it?
>
>Numa, is this one of the distribution systems that Pergamon will explore?

My reply:

No, I haven't.

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