From: dvp@oasis.icl.co.uk (Dave Parry)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Duck Hunt
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:56:45 GMT
Organization: The Mountains of Madness
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desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne) writes:
> 
> 	I am grossly tired of men that whine about double-standards
> in this here life.  Yes, I understand that are plenty of double-standards
> that we as a society have introduced.  And we all should be attuned to
> those "false" double standards and strive to rid ourselves of them.  But
> the bottom line is:  there are natural double standards over which
> we shouldn't have any control.  

Brilliant, the chance in a lifetime!!!! (heh heh). Couldn't agree more
with you Desiree. Now the 'natural' double standards that I'm thinking
of are mens desire to do the business with as many babes as possible,
their natural desire for male bonding - shooting the shit with not a
wmoen around to kick up a fuss, their desire to get smashed on a
Saturday night and round it off with a good punch-up, their natural
desire to say "Hey baby, it's not me that wanted a kid!", their
natural desire to watch sports morning, noon and night with a case of
beer and some good buddies and no women around.

No you may argue (as I'm sure you will) that I'm talking through my
arse, but I can honestly say, that the final two lines of your post
above, is the most sensible and liberating piece I've ever read. Does
this mean that you women are becoming more understanding and tolerant
of us poor, slaves to our (natural) instincts, men?

> 	There are some things in this life that are not equal.  The
> world is not equal.  If it were, we'd all pee standing up.  

Ah, a feminist acknowledging that the world is not equal - great, does
that mean that they're all going to stop winging and give us guys a rest
now?
> 
> 	Shall we now sequeway in the moaning cries of "but then
> the woman can come after me for childsupport?"  In a nutshell,
> my response is "tough shit".  If you aren't prepared to take the
> responsibility for that -- then keep your hose secured.  There is a
> reason that the system is fucked boys.  Think about it.  

Yeah, unfortunately for (some) guys, there's this real strong urge to
play bury the ferret with the female of the species, unfortunately,
the Good Lord did not think to provide us guys with a modicum of
protection, to wit stencilling 'Ballbreaker' on the heads of certain
females. Ah well, slaves to fortune we are, but do we complain? Never!
Onward, ever onward boys!

Well, if they believe we're all male chauvinistic pigs and nothing
seems to be able to change they're minds, we might as well say sod it
and not worry about it - they're the ones who appear to be miserable
all the time, have you ever met, seen, or heard of a happy feminist?
> 
> 	As I said, you're a sanctimonious prig and you are deeply 
> enmeshed in a narrow-minded rigid world.  I've known other men --
> intimately -- that had "high" standards for themselves too.  I laugh in
> their face! Ha!  Take that you Creature and be off with you!  (To
> repeat one of my more memorable statements to you: Rigidity belongs
> (and is desired and cherished and worshipped) in the southern
> hemisphere -- not the northern.) [Gawd, I amuse myself]

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn!

> 
> 	And don't try to accuse me of not having high standards --
> you simply don't know enough to make that accusation.  Nor will I play
> into that game with you.  Just peddle off...
> 
> >    Since there is no reason that I can see to take your advice, I
> >won't.  I am not disputing the fact that I am not a net.personality.
> >The last half of the last sentence is only your opinion which I do
> >not care about.
> 
> 	Oh goodie goodie gum drops. But apparently you do care enough
> to comment on it, non?  
> 
> 	Go sharpen your pencils, you bore me...
> 
> Desiree

Well fiddle de dee!

Rhett.
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