From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Topical comments
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:51:08 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Nov17.032710.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> In article <28212@castle.ed.ac.uk>, eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart) writes:
>> Just thought I'd throw in my tuppence worth, while I take a tea break.
>> 
>> 1. Jim McLean interview
>>                         Now, I've gone on record as having stated that
>> Celtic are the best footballing side in Scotland, and whereas I'm
>> prepared to take a little flak off Wacko Jacko and friends, I'm glad at
>> least to be ridiculed with such distinguished company. There isn't a 
>> figure in the Scottish game with more knowledge than Jolly Jim (yes,he
>> knows even more than Andy Roxburgh  :-)), and so I hope it makes a few
>> cynics (some Celtic fans included) think again about slagging the
>> quality of players at Liam Brady's disposal. If Celtic can't do well
>> with their current squad, then they'll never do well.
> 
> 
> 	Dunno what they put in the water in Edinburgh but a few weeks
> back we had Scott saying that Dave McFearsome had a good game against  Leeds 
> (dont argue cos I've still got the report to prove it) and now we have  Gerry
> on ranting about  the "best footballing  side in Scotland"  (again).  Do
> you really  believe what Jim McLean says on the basis of 1 game ?  If 
> Celtic are the best team, sorry footballing team, how come they  are unlikely
> to win anything this season except the Tennents  Sixes ? Its OK  playing
> good  football for periods in a game but it's  pointless when you end  up
> chucking the game away because of poor defending or being unable to 
> score goals.  Hasn't that been  the story of Celtic's season ?  Surely
> if they are the best footballing side then they would be in a far better
> position just now.   Of course   I base my judgement on second hand
> knowledge but a few CEltic fans I know seen  a bit pessimistic at 
> present.  I would have thought a team which wins 18 games in a row, including
> a Skol Cup, 2 games against Leeds and one against Celtic would have been
> a far better candidate. Somewhere in these games there must have been quite a
> few good "football" matches.  
>  
>> 
>> 2. Scotland v England (was Rangers v Leeds)
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm targetting the Rangers'
>> fans here and their recent comments on the English media. I can only
>> laugh at this sudden chip on the shoulder from supporters of a side
>> who only 2 years ago were regularly turning out sides with up to 6
>> Englishmen in it. Terry Butcher would not approve of this Angophobia!
>                                                                      
> Haud on Gerry........I can reember Rangers teams with only 1 or 2 Scots 
> in the line up.  HOwever I dont particularly care who lines up
> in a Rangers jersey as long as they can play, race or religion makes no
> differnce.  As it stands Celtic have more foreigners now.  When it
> comes to supporting  national teams I will support  Scotland and hope
> everyone beats England.  It's good to see Rangers players getting capped by
> England but I still hope they lose !! So there's no chip on the
> shoulder here.  Perhaps your loyalities are   elsewhere....   
>                                               
>>                I personally don't think there is much difference in the
>> relative standards - they're both shockingly poor at the moment and
>> technically aren't on the same planet as the domestic leagues in Italy,
>> Germany, France, Netherlands, Spain or Portugal. Rangers victory tells
>> me nothing that I didn't already know and the petty nationalism of some
>> of the Scottish postings verges on the xenophobic.
> 
> Well you've told us how good a "footballing side" Celtic are  but now
> you're saying we're crap.  What are you on about being"xenophobic" etc ? It's
> nothing to do with petty nationalism, it's to do with being in the last
> 8 in the European Cup.  
> 
> 
> Glad that you've realised that the league is beyond you this season,
> but you better start looking over  your shoulder for Partick Thistle now !!
> 
> 
> 
> PS.  Anyone in the Queens Park area of Glasgow have any videos of Rangers
> matches for the past 8 weeks.   My faither has just informed me that 
> the video is broken  :(     I suppose QP is the  wrong place to look 
> for Rangers supporters.
> 
> 

Ooops..had to do a quick followup to correct some errors.  This line
is very slow and its taken almost an hour to type in.  CErtainly 
wasnt going to do it again.
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> Sandy Mackinnon, 
> 	    University of Strathclyde, 
> 	    	      Glasgow (still in exile at Brown Univ, RI)
> 	  		                             cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk  
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