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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:38:59 EST
From: Jeffrey S. Payne <JSP6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Show Us the Enterprise-B and E!
 <tomcat.724217665@cwis>

In article <tomcat.724217665@cwis>, tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
says:
[Misc blah...blah....blah...]

>        This is the last season of TNG...unless they re-negotiate the
>        contracts for each cast member.  In any case, Richard Arnold
>        had stated that some of the cast members may re-new, but
>        Stewart is not one of them..as well as Spiner and Dorn.

Wrong wrong wrong....there is already confirmation of at least a 7th season,
and they are reasonably certain that there will be at least an 8th season
although there is a rumor that Stewart will not sign for an 8th year, and that
Frakes will probably take over the job as captain. (source: Nov 1, Creation
Convention, Valley Forge PA)

Jeff Payne
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From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: DS9 in boston area?
Organization: insert anything here
Distribution: ne
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:03:02 GMT


	Just got off the phone wit with WLVI-56 in Boston.

	Deep Space 9 premieres on 1/8/93 and will start
regular broadcast on 1/17/93 at 8PM (Sunday night).

BBC
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From: tdt@thor.cray.com (Thomas Torkelson  {66580 CF/DEV})
Subject: Dr. Crusher wherabouts - Season II
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:09:06 CST


Keywords: 

Hi All!

Last night my wife watched Chain of Command and Pen Pals, what an
awesome duo to see back to back.  CoC was spectacular and sure
put the action back in.  Here in the scenic backwoods of Wisconsin,
we have been getting the reruns of the first two seasons so far, and
we are wondering what happened to Dr. Crusher during season two.
We have read in the FAQ that she was at Star Fleet Medical, but
where was she in real life?  Was this an intended sabbatical or
possibly an end for her Star Trek days?

Thanks!

Anxiously waiting for CoC II and DSN.

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From: cazabon@csd.uwo.ca (Yvan Cazabon)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:36:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.132949.9419@iscsvax.uni.edu> hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Mike Hollander suggested a female captian for the E.  While he believes it may
>be ok for stardate 4507 whatever it won't work for 1992.  Inferior earthlings
>of the late 20th century still watch the show and it wouldn't work.  The show
>would further stall out of its already death spiral and crash.  What I mean is
>that female captains are a great idea but the way things are now it wouldn't
>work for the show.  Sorry ladies but the perceptions aren't there.  Maybe in a
>few years when we see more women CEO's.  The postheroic leader hasn't developed
>enough yet.
>
>
>Hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu

...just a short interjection here...

Excuse me folks, but have we all forgotten about "Yesterday's Enterprise" and
her captain?

...'nuff said

Yvan 
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: Let's get one thing clear. (Spoilers??)
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:13:24 GMT

Sean D. Ackley <su@prag.com> writes:


>Possible spoilers?...
>2 Page breaks for good luck..
>


>

>This message is for those people that think Jelico is a butt head.

>Look!! It possibly could be wartime!!!  What would happen if the commander
>of our troops overseas was a pantywaiste?  (They would all be dead!)

>Picard is a good captain, but he would definately have to become more rigid
>during wartime.  Since he is usually a captain during peace time there is
>no way to judge what he would be like.

My problem with Jelico is that the man thinks he's the end all. What he 
says can, should and will be done no matter what. He doesn't take the 
advice of his officers (Riker saying switching to four watches would be
more of a strain on the crew than it would be worth), makes unreasonable
demands on the crew (Having Geordi attempt to do something he'd *just*
barely be able to complete with all the engeneering staff, then transfering
1/3 of the crew to security). Jelico was making demands that were hard
enough to impossible in noraml circumstances, let alone just after a new
captain.

			CtB
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From: cosc1871@elroy.uh.edu (92F06787)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Captain Jellico(sp)
Date: 20 Dec 1992 16:38 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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Did anyone notice that the new captain looked at his son's drawing an
awful lot in the episode?  Perhaps his son died and he deliberately wants
to get into a fight with maybe his son's killers.  Then again, maybe
it was a red herring.  Happy holly-daze.




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From: lpoza@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Luis Poza)
Subject: Re: Cardassians first appearance on STTNG? (possible *SPOILERS*!!)
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:23:35 GMT


"The Wounded" was directed by Chip Chalmers, who frequents computer
BBS's like GEnie, where he mentioned, soon after "The Wounded" was
broadcast, that we should watch out for those Cardassians, and that
they'd be back in a big way later on.  Of course, he was undoubtedly
just guessing at the time, but it was a good guess....


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From: sorensen@iastate.edu (Jeffrey T. Sorensen)
Subject: Who is Ronny Cox?
Summary: Wondering who this actor is...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:44:13 GMT

For some reason, I cannot think of who Ronny Cox (playing Captain Jelico)
is?  I have not seen the CoC episode yet, obviously.  Since I am going
back to my hometown over Christmas (no FOX station) I wont see it till
I return in January either.

What part did Ronny Cox play in Robocop, Total Recall, etc?

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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: Multiple ST Roles
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:00:05 GMT

dszpiro@student.business.uwo.ca (Daniel A. Szpiro) writes:

>Hi, 

>First of all let me apologize for forgetting the names of the
>characters I am about to discuss.

>Did anyone else notice that the actor playing the part of the
>Cardassian captor threatenting to torture Picard at the end of Chain
>of Command I is the same actor who played;

>	1. The Klingon general who was trying to establish peace
>	   with the Federation but who was assasinated by his own
>	   people in ST VI,

>	2. The Federation Ambassador on the desert planet who gets
2> 	   brainwashed by Sybok in ST V?

>Am I right about this? Thanks for your comments,

>Danny

	Yep..it was David Warner...I caught his name at the beginning of the
credits.  Gul Madrel was his character...not bad for him..first he played
a human, then a Klingon, now a Cardassian..what's next?  Romulan?  Ferengi? 

 	:+)





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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: janet@indetech.com (Janet Christian)
Subject: Re: URGENT - Special DS9 promotional feed
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:12:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec09.163629.23582@watson.ibm.com> kehleyr@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>Me too, please.  I will pay for shipping and a tape, of course.
>
>>gcs4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gregory Carl Seibert) writes:
>> 
>>                               *** SATELLITE FEED ALERT ***
>>                *** "STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE" ELECTRONIC PRESS KIT ***
>>
>> 
>>    If someone that is going to tape this would bne willing to tape it for me
>>    too I'd greatly appreciate it.  I could send you a tape to copy it onto,
>>    or just mail you a check for the tape if you have any extra blanks lying
>>    around.  Thanks.
>>                                            G.C.
>
>-- 
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Me, too! Me, too! Please.....

Janet

janet@indetech.com

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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: How do you start a flame war?  Glad you asked ...
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:43:43 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

[How to start a flame war post deleted]

You also left off:

#0.  "Why all the repeats? Is TNG getting cancelled?"


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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Dr. Crusher wherabouts - Season II
Organization: Clark University
Date: 18 DEC 92 00:02:18 GMT

In a previous article, tdt@thor.cray.com (Thomas Torkelson  {66580 CF/DEV}) wrote:
> 
>Keywords: 
> 
>Hi All!
> 
>Last night my wife watched Chain of Command and Pen Pals, what an
>awesome duo to see back to back.  CoC was spectacular and sure
>put the action back in.  Here in the scenic backwoods of Wisconsin,
>we have been getting the reruns of the first two seasons so far, and
>we are wondering what happened to Dr. Crusher during season two.
>We have read in the FAQ that she was at Star Fleet Medical, but
>where was she in real life?  Was this an intended sabbatical or
>possibly an end for her Star Trek days?
> 
Gene Roddenberry (and perhaps others) decided after season one that Beverly 
(the character, not the actress portraying her) didn't "fit in" right, and 
decided to make the change.  This was announced at the '88 convention in LA, 
and met with restounding boos.  By the time Gene spoke (last speaker, 2nd 
day), there was a very large petition circulating to bring her back.  Gene 
said this had already been finalized though.  (Insert gloat - I was the one 
that actually handed Gene this massive petition - end gloat.)

The next year, all the actors were told not to say anything about changes in 
the show, to prevent the chaos from the leak the year before.  Gene was again 
the last speaker, and announced Dr Pulaski was leaving.  Mostly quiet - surely 
not the boos of last year.  When he announced the return of Dr Crusher the 
place let up with such cheers I nearly went deaf.

During her "year off" I think she did a soap, maybe General Hospital.


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From: gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Greg Pallenik)
Subject: do we need rec.arts.startrek.dsn?
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:16:30 GMT

This newsgroup is becomminh cluttered with discussion of Deep Space Nine. 
I'm not complaining, but IMHO I think a separate group will be needed to
keep things organized.  Does anyone else agree or disagree?
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From: gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Greg Pallenik)
Subject: Re: Every Good Boy Deserves Favor?
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:48:26 GMT

In article <SCHOUTEN.92Dec14233334@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu>,
schouten@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten) wrote:
> 
> Please forgive me if I have committed the unpardonable sin of reviving
> a subject already beaten to death, but has anyone heard of a play
> called Every Good Boy Deserves Favor?  I heard it advertised as one
> show only in Chicago on (I believe) April 10, with Patrick Stewart,
> Jonathan Frakes, Gates McFadden, Brent Spiner, Colm Meaney and at
> least one other person whose name I did not recognize.  Any info would
> be greatly appreciated.
> BTW, I might be mistaken about the title and may have left out an
> actor or two.  Or I might have significantly misspelled some names.
> But I'm sure the truth lies somewhere in the vicinity of the words above.
> 
> Dale Schouten
> schouten@uiuc.edu

According to the January 1992 issue of Starlog Magazine:

	IIn February 1992, Stewert directed as well as performed with Next
Generation compatriots Brent Spinner, Jonathan Frakes, Gates McFadden and
Colm Meaney, in Tom Stoppard and Andre Previn's play for actors and
orchestra, Every Good Boy Deserves Favour.  Stewart hopes to present this
production with the Chicago, Detroit and Minneapolis Symphony Orchestras in
spring 1993"

Hope that helps...

Greg 
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: Troi's Rank Canonized (*SPOILERS* For CoCPtI)
Keywords: Troi Rank
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:23:30 GMT


jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
 >you can put aside your recurring surveys as to Counselor Troi's rank,
 >as tonight in "Chain of Command, Part I" we have Ronny Cox explicitly 
 >refer to her as "Lieutenant Commander Deanna Troi".  She also wore 
 >three and a half pips on her regulation uniform...

There's nothing new about any of that...  

Deanna has both worn the same (TWO and 1/2) pips, *and*
been referred to as Lt. Commander in previous episodes.

Anyone relying on "surveys" for the answer was simply
not familiar with the show.  :->

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From: cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144)
Subject: Re: A Good Captain
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:32:52 GMT

> As "The Gallileo Seven" has proven to Spock, logic does not
> solve all problems.  His logic cost the lives of several crewmen.
> He also used emotional desperation in the end. (Admittedly he logically
> came up with that decision.)
>
> Also, though I don't remember the episode right now, Spock does
> say to Kirk that where logic fails, he should use emotion, thus
> proving Spock did actually learn from "The Galileo Seven".
>
> In "Assignment Earth" he even suggested human intution over logic.

I would say it can be decribed a weighing low probabilities against one
another. Staying in orbit they will have a virtual 0 chance of being found and
will die shortly. Using all their fuel for a dynamic display yet cause death
to occur sooner would have a higher probability of being found and is thus
a better choice.

Both ways their chances were slim to none, but it can be reasoned that staying
in orbit their chances were even more slim if not none.

Now Data could probably recognize all possible options and actually do
probability calculations on the choices and would come to the same conclusion
as spock.

Logic wins again!
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From: myleslee@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Alan Brady Ward)
Subject: Re: Cardassians first appearance on STTNG?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:02:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.183659.45665@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>  
baxter@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> Now that we are seeing more of the Cardassians, I must admit that I
> don't remember the first time they were introduced in STTNG.  
> 
> Can someone refresh my memory and tell me the episode that this was
> in so I can pull out the tape and see how they were introduced and
> depicted at that time.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
It was an episode involving a war between the Cardassians and some other  
race.  Maybe the big E was sent in to mediate the peace or something like  
that.

I can't tell you much more because I would only remember exact details if  
I saw the show again.

Al
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From: malj8589@mach1.wlu.ca (maljkovich john)
Subject: Re: Brent Spiner, Night Court & "Fistful..."
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 04:44:42 GMT
Keywords: Spiner

"disaster-haunted Appalachian" should read...

disaster-haunted Yugoslavians" or is that now Croations or Serbians or.....


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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: Troi Survey - Results
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:43:50 GMT

M17257@mwvm.mitre.org writes:

>Response was okay, not great.
>Overall opinion was that Troi is poorly written and underutilized.
>Lack of use as counselor is considerable, by comments contributed.

Due to the fact that I'm rather new here, I guess I missed this
survey. I don't really like Troi, but I don't really dislike her either.
So... 

>Most respondents said they liked Troi.
>Opinion was given that writers should consult with real life psychologists and
>determine how she should be acting and responding to situations.

Yeah, that's my problem too!


> liked the communication between Lwaxana and Troi, but no one mentioned that
>that communication isn't really empathy, but really telepathy.  And if she has
>telepathy, why isn't used more?

To my understanding, Betaziods are natural telepaths. Troi however, is onlyt
half Betaziod and therefore only empathic, not telepathic. This means of
course that Lwaxana is inicating the telepathic link. Now, is necessary that
the other memeber of the link is at least empathic? If not then Lwaxana should
be able to communicate with anyone.

		Well, just my $.02.   CtB
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:11:19 GMT

YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:

>    Here is my solution for this whole thing.
>    Work out a crew profile, personality profile and job profiles first, but
>leave the species, race, and sex blank.
>    Throw a coin to see whether a character should be male or female.
> [stuff about random selection of race, gender, species deleted]
>
>   If the color of the skin or gender truly did not matter, (at least in doing
>their job or carrying the show) then such random choice of characteristics
>shouldn't matter; and if the writers were good enough, they could create
>conflict arising from the given situation: e.g. due to freak throw, all the
>characters are black female vulcans.  You could still have conflicts arising
>from differences in beliefs (a la Spock vs. Sarek); sexual conflicts (what
>happens in pon farr when no male vulcans are nearby); etc. etc

But the problem is that you don't want a show with half a dozen black female
vulcans. You'd have a lousy show. There has to be a diversity amoung the
crew. Now, this doesn't support haveing a white-male as captian. It does
however mean that the writers can and SHOULD plan each character and see
how that character could deal within the group and setting. Rnadom chance
is just NOT the way to go.

	Also, I've noticed it here and in an earler post where they were talking 
about races with in spieces. We don't know that there are "Black Vulcans"
(African-American Vulcans just didn't sound right! :) or Asian Vulcans.
I mean for all we know, white color Vulcans are the minority group! Same
goes for Betaziods and Romulans and Klingons and whoever. 

			CtB
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From: wchen@beirut.berkeley.edu (William Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Beverly heats up... *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
Date: 18 Dec 92 05:23:48 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.

In article <BzEytF.E2F@cup.hp.com> runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:
>Bruce James Robrert Linley (linley@netcom.com) wrote:
>> Possible spoilers for Chain of Command...
> 
>>
>>Sorry but I have to ask, but was anyone else as shocked as I was to see Dr.
>>Crusher use her sexuallity to coerce the Farengi into providing transport?
>
>Not at all, especially considering Dr. Crusher's hobby (`acting').  Much
>of what she was doing was a `pose'.  Her voice change and posturing
>reminded me of her plays, so I'd say that we weren't seeing a *new*
>ability of hers, simply her using an existing one to extreme advantage.
>
>Mark Runyan  {r.a.s. random rationalizer}

Actually wasn't this a favorite tactic of Captain Kirk's?  I thought 
that this scene demonstrated how important Bev thought the mission was.

William