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From: Minh Lang <minh@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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     <1992Aug20.073520.797@greco-prog.fr> <598@tls-cs.cert.fr>
     <ATAYLOR.92Aug21131448@gauss.nmsu.edu>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:01:02 GMT

In article <558@tls-cs.cert.fr> Luc Maillet, maillet@tls-cs.cert.fr
writes:
>  Don't forget: if you have no weapon, the criminal has a knive, or
perhaps a
>pistol. If you have a pistol or a rifle, the criminal will have a fully
>functional SMG, and so on. It's always easier for criminals to acquire
heavier
>weaponry than it is for the ordinary citizen - except in westerns.
Getting
>armed is just asking for an arm race.

I would rather prefer to confront a fully functional SMG with my
357 Magnum than confronting a knife/pistol with my bare hands!
I can't really see your point. Are you saying that if you have no weapon,
and if the criminal has a knife/pistol, you can beg for your
life easier than fight for your life?  " Look, Mr Criminal,  I have no
weapon to against you, do whatever you like: rape my daughter, 
my wife, beat me up, take my money, please don't kill me, OK?"

I believe the whole debate over here is a matter of principles and social
background: I have my rights to bear arms and protect my family and 
properties, and you have your rights of begging for life...
From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 00:59:41 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

French women, having a problem finding a French man?  I am about to 
launch a free electronic matching service on Usenet.  Thanks to the 
imbalance of men to women on Usenet, more guys than gals have 
expressed an interest so far.  If you would like to see the fifth 
draft of my questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's 
needs as well as men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I 
posted in alt.personals.  
 
This service is serious and I already have 291 men and 162 women 
signed up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected 
and programming has begun.  
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make 
sure that matches are compatible culturally.  
 
                                                          Eric Klien
From: maillet@tls-cs.cert.fr (Luc Maillet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Keywords: guns and surrealism
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:55:16 GMT
Organization: CERT Toulouse Dept of Computer Science, FRANCE

In article <1992Aug20.064953.14368@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:

|>      You may hate it, but the right is ours in the US.  I quote from our
|>      second amendment "... the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall
|>      not be infringed".

  I was speaking (well, writing) about your right to kill. Self-defense CAN
be appropriate in some cases, but too often does a weapon-owner loses his cool
and just shoot at a shadow. When you discover that it's just a kid, well, he
doesn't even have his eyes to cry anymore.
  That's what I want to say: the decision of who may live and who may not is
certainly not yours. If you take it, you are as much a criminal as the ones who
are branded as such.

|>      As far as an arms race in the streets goes.  It certainly can be
|>      made no greater by me carrying an assault rifle.  After all, an RPG
|>      or a mortar is probably too difficult to carry around, and nuclear
|>      artellery could be rather hazardous to the user.

  OK, kill one dealer, two dealers,perhaps three dealers. Next time, an
self-made bomb will make your home look like a christmas tree. It's far easier
to do that than to acquire heavy ordnance, and as far as terror is concerned,
it is efficient too.
  I'd rather leave this kind of arms race to the military idiots who have
the manpower to soak up the casualties.

|> 
|>      You also seem to have fundamental misunderstandings about the philosophy
|>      underlying the US government.  It is certainly not to regulate social
|>      interactions until it is 'safe' to carry guns.

  It is NOT safe to carry guns. Just ask yourself what the purpose of a gun is.
Then you have your answer.
  A friend of mine once said to me that cars were more dangerous than guns
because they killed more people. I'd rather be concerned with the (casuaties/
global using time) ratio. And the most important difference is that the
purpose of a car is to travel. The purpose of a gun is to kill, which brings
us back to the first point of the article: you have no right to kill.

  A Lundi (See you next Monday),

							Z.
From: IO11412@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Pub. Air-France sur TV5
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:13:29 GMT
 <jpl1.714083510@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Organization: University of Maine System


TV5 est un canal de te'le'vision franc,ais qui a des emissions seulement a`


l'e'tranger (TV5-Europe, etc.) Rien a` voir avec La Cinq.

Dragomir, radev@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu
From: pelegrin@brol.greco-prog.fr (Francois PELLEGRINI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: R.V.
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:26:46 GMT
Organization: GRECO Programmation du CNRS - Bordeaux,France

In article <487@tls-cs.cert.fr>, maillet@tls-cs.cert.fr (Luc Maillet) writes:
|> In article <marzouki.713441955@archi>, marzouki@archi.imag.fr (Meryem Marzouki) writes:
|> |> maillet@tls-cs.cert.fr (Luc Maillet) fait des pates au bord de la mer :
[...]
|>   Sans rire, on a discute hier soir avec sylvain ( sylvain chretien ) et on
|> s'est rendu compte qu'on ne connaissait pas nos tetes respectives. Alors, pour
|> les retrouvailles au Pont Neuf, deux solutions:

|> 1) scannerisez une photo de vous, et envoyez-la sur le newsgroup en format .gif

|> 2) envoyez une description ecrite, qu'on puisse vous reconnaitre...

	C'est d'un banal...
	Je propose plutot que vous fassiez un concours du signe de reconnaissance le
plus bizarre: a une date fixee, chacun s'amene avec un truc original, sans prevenir
les autres de ce que ca sera. Si c'est bien choisi, vous devriez tous vous retrouver...
Du style:
- un jambonneau
- un arrosoir (merci Binet pour ces 2 suggestions)
- un nain en platre de jardin (avec brouette et fleurs dedans)
	etc...

	Pour avoir essaye, je peux vous dire que c'est maxi-super-giga fendard, surtout
quand on voit la gueule des autres consommateurs et du patron du troquet.
	Bien sur, faudra nous raconter ca sur le rezo!

						f.p.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: ricou@humus.cs.huji.ac.il (Olivier Ricou)
Subject: Re: We Pay Incredibly ou le dernier rateau.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:26:15 GMT

Sylvuck (puisque c'est lui) :

>	Dis moi Delphine tu ne trouves pas ca chevaleresque, tous ces duels
> rien que pour tes beaux yeux que nous n'avons pas encore vus!

 Stop au delire. Excuse moi Delphine mais je ne vois pas ce qui permet a ce
seigneur (qui est pret a m'offrir un voyage rien que pour un duel, c'est
grand) de dire ca.

 Si le petit m'a defie, c'est seulement car il n'a pas supporte que je lui
explique WPI, ca l'a vexe. Quand au clone, il suit simplement la voie de son
maitre.

						Olivier.

ps : je pense que lorsqu'on defie quelqu'un, on lui laisse le choix des
     armes. Ca serait trop facile sinon.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.french:5892 talk.politics.guns:19503
From: maillet@tls-cs.cert.fr (Luc Maillet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Asterix...
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:58:52 GMT
Organization: CERT Toulouse Dept of Computer Science, FRANCE

In article <1992Aug20.111816.8625@greco-prog.fr>, goudal@labri.greco-prog.fr (Frederic GOUDAL) writes:
|> 
|> P.P.S qui a un peu a voir.
|> 
|> Vous les gothos, ca ne vous derange pas que ah que johnny il a chante
|> "noir c'est noir" il y a 30 ans ????

 Oh, oh... il y en a un qui a tout compris au gothique, au fond, pres du
radiateur... Sylvuck, le super-gothos c'est toi, alors au boulot...

						Z. (Presque-Gothique)

  Sulvuck&Zozo, concessionnaires Iseki, tout le jardinage pres de chez vous.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: gros@sunra6.cern.ch (Jean-Philippe Gros)
Subject: Mr Rifleman, my hero!!!
Reply-To: gros@sunra6.cern.ch
Organization: Cern, Geneva, Switzerland.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:40:24 GMT


In article 5908@athena.mit.edu, sybok@athena.mit.edu (The Rifleman) writes:


>And I WELCOME and APPROVE DEATH--DEATH FOR CRIMINALS WHO ATTACK
>LAW ABIDING CITIZENS--OLD MEN AND YOUNG WOMEN--WITH KNIVES AND BRUTE
>STRENGTH . . . DEATH FOR TYRANTS LIKE ADOLF HITLER AND HIS FASCIST
>OLIGARCHY OF GENOCIDE. 
>
>And indeed, I WOULD RISK MY LIFE FOR THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS,
>..  .  . THE RIGHT TO BE FREE.
>
>"Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils."
> --General John Stark
>


	Beautiful, really beautiful...

	You are a kind of a hero, Mr Rifleman!...

	Don't say no, you are too modest, you really are a hero!!

	...

	All right!... 
	And now, all of you, can you please stop those endless discussions. We all 
know it is pointless to argue with these "rambos".
	They don't have the same references as we do. Never forget they were fed
with cow-boys stories, "the wild-west" and country music.

	They are not to blame, we must forgive them...

Jean-Philippe.  

  
 
 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: segoufin@flash.bellcore.com (Luc Segoufin)
Subject: Re: revue du 12
Organization: /u/segoufin/.organization
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:59:23


 Dans la revue du 12 aout, entre un article sur des dechets hospitaliers
et un autre sur george Marchais, j'ai trouve ceci:

"- LE DUEL, Mr Luc a annonce qu'il refusait de laisser le choix des armes
a son adversaire. Mr Olivier a porte plainte aupres de la commission 
internationale du savoir vivre. Il devrait normalement obtenir gain de
cause, puisqu'il est un fait admit qu'on ne peut lancer un duel et
choisir les armes."

 Ma question est peut-etre naive, j'ai surement rate qqchose, mais j'avoue
ne pas comprendre...

 Quelqu'un peut-il m'expliquer ?

merci

luc

-------------------segoufin@clipper.ens.fr
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
From: mou@nova1.stanford.edu (Alex Mou)
Subject: Re: Guns, Motorcycles, and Internet Access in Paris
Keywords: guns and surrealism
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:59:50 GMT

In article <Bt5EE1.E8A.1@cs.cmu.edu> slaveau@ius4.ius.cs.cmu.edu writes:
>Argh, I think that's too much for me..
>
>In article <1554@tnc.UUCP>, m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY) writes:
>
>|> "...I am opposed to all attempts to license or restrict the arming of
>|> individuals...I consider such laws a violation of civil liberty,
>                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>|> subversive of democratic political institutions, and self-defeating
>|> in their purpose."
>|>         - Robert Heinlein, in a 1949 letter concerning "Red Planet"
>
>What is that red planet he is talking about ? As some other say, Your (civil)
>liberty stops when other's start.
>
>As far as guns are concerned can some americans explain to me why one week is
>that says that we have the right to bear arms... 
>
>By the way, it is illegal to import arms in France even if they are
>non-useable...
>

By the way, it is absolutely legal to export arms from France whether
they are usable....

>
>Stephane
>
>P.S.2 Excuse my english.


Xref: sparky soc.culture.french:5943 talk.politics.guns:19603
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Keywords: guns and surrealism
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:38:30 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.french
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <26720@life.ai.mit.edu>, benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud) writes:

> The US has the biggest (and best of course...) military in the world.
> A few (even a few milion) hunting rifles will do NOTHING against it.

Wow, dude, you're right, of course.

Find "South Vietnam" on a map, for me, will you?  (No, not the OLD map,
silly.)

> Now, guns save no one. Look at Europe. 

Hee hee!  And you had the balls to post this to soc.culture.french?
(My uncle, who was in Normandy with the boys, sez hi.)

> If guns save people in the US,
> it's ONLY BECAUSE THE SAME GUNS WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO CRIMINALS.

Yeah.  The same way we "make" drugs available to junkies.

> A gun, like tobacco, is a government approved good which, when used as
> directed, causes death.

Funny.  I've used guns as directed for years, and no one has ever died.
I'll have to read those directions again; I must be doing something wrong.
-- 

cdt@pdp.sw.stratus.com      --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com        write today for my special Investors' Packet...
Xref: sparky soc.culture.french:5888 talk.politics.guns:19491
From: benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Keywords: guns and surrealism
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:38:10 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.french
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

In article <1992Aug18.142525.14856@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:

>LM:
>>  If the "will of the people" results in madmen being allowed to buy fully
>>functionnal assault rifles, then going in the street and shooting passers-by,
>>then, yes, the situation requires weapon control, at the very least.
>>  And don't tell me I'm pessimistic. It happens - in USA, at least.
>
>By the same token, if "the will of the people" results in madmen being
>allowed to subject their country to "ethnic cleansing", then, yes, the
>situation requires weapons availability to the potential victims, at
>the very least.
>
>And don't tell me I'm pessimistic.  It happened to my grandparents and
>their parents, and it's happening now -- in Bosnia, at least.
>
>Finally, I prefer having to cope with the costs of liberty to paying
>the price of blind trust in the government control.  The governments
>have been known to throw my people to the wolves -- remember Vichy?
>

Well, the thing is you see, guns will -never- help you against a
government. The day there is a coup d'etat in the US (which will have
the support of the army, because it needs it),

n ** you will look rather silly waving you little colt at a BIG TANK !!**

The US has the biggest (and best of course...) military in the world.
A few (even a few milion) hunting rifles will do NOTHING against it.

Now, guns save no one. Look at Europe. If guns save people in the US,
it's ONLY BECAUSE THE SAME GUNS WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO CRIMINALS.

A gun, like tobacco, is a government approved good which, when used as
directed, causes death.

Benjamin.

Although it does not seem directly relevant to scf, i feel is sort of
is...for some reason...shrug...
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Courte phrase avec les 10 accents
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:24:53 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Aug18.021341.18570@sobeco.com> lacroix@sobeco.ca (d.lacroix) writes:
>
>        `   ^       '   `   ^   "   "   ^   `
>        a   a   c   e   e   e   e   i   o   u

             ^       ^                    
Il manque le u et le i, non?  

-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Barthelemy Jarret (1471) -> Andre Jarret, sieur de Beauregard (1665)
\_.-===   -> Denis Beauregard (1992)                  Opinions ? Et pis non !
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Concours : Chez nous, c'est bien mieux (etait Re: Salut tout le monde)
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:54:19 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Aug17.115712.14899@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> sloubtin@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Sylvain Louboutin) writes:
>
>moi aussi j'habite a cote de la mer... quel craneur ce Dominique.  Et
>puis vous en connaissez beacoup vous des capitales avec une plage et une
>baie (a peu pres) propre au centre ville avec reserve ornithologique
>incorporee?  Hawaii? pfuu!  Dublin c'est nettement mieux. (le mieux

Et des villes avec une plage municipale et une pente de ski, vous en
connaissez, vous?

-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Barthelemy Jarret (1471) -> Andre Jarret, sieur de Beauregard (1665)
\_.-===   -> Denis Beauregard (1992)                  Opinions ? Et pis non !
From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Re: Help with a phrase..
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:32:21 GMT

In article <l92q46INNppn@aludra.usc.edu> sukhatme@usc.edu (Gaurav Sukhatme) wri
tes:
>Hello - I'm posting here for the first time so please forgive me for any
>breach of ettiqutte ( nettiquette !! ).
>
>I need to be able to say and write
>
>"Darling I miss you" and "I love you" in French - can someone help ?
>
>Plea..a..se .
>
>-Gaurav Sukhatme
> (sukhatme@aludra.usc.edu)


You should say  "Delphine, je te manque" and "je t'aime"  only leave out the
name Delphine and substitute the name of your own "darling."
From: Minh Lang <minh@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Looking for an old friend in Paris. Help!!!
Organization: Jet propulsion Laboratory
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:23:26 GMT

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Je cherche un bon ami que j'ai perdu son addresse and je n'ai pas pu le
trouver.
Son nom est Quan Dung. It est un  computer programmeur et travaille a`
Paris pour
plusieurs anne'es. Si vous le connaissez, je serai tellement heureux que
vous
me envoyez son email addresse. Merci.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi, I am looking for a friend that I lost contact. His name is Quan Dung
(Quan is 
his last name and Dung is his first name). He is working as a
programmer/analyst in Paris, France. I would really appreciate any info.
Please email to me. Thank you very much.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

  == Minh Lang ==
  minh@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov
From: maillet@tls-cs.cert.fr (Luc Maillet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: We Pay Incredibly ou le dernier rateau.
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:06:13 GMT
Organization: CERT Toulouse Dept of Computer Science, FRANCE

In article <Bsw93r.EKF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ricou@humus.cs.huji.ac.il (Olivier Ricou) writes:
|> Sylvuck (puisque c'est lui) :
|> 
|> >	Dis moi Delphine tu ne trouves pas ca chevaleresque, tous ces duels
|> > rien que pour tes beaux yeux que nous n'avons pas encore vus!
|> 
|>  Stop au delire. Excuse moi Delphine mais je ne vois pas ce qui permet a ce
|> seigneur (qui est pret a m'offrir un voyage rien que pour un duel, c'est
|> grand) de dire ca.
|> 
|>  Si le petit m'a defie, c'est seulement car il n'a pas supporte que je lui
|> explique WPI, ca l'a vexe. Quand au clone, il suit simplement la voie de son
|> maitre.
|> 
|> 						Olivier.
|> 
|> ps : je pense que lorsqu'on defie quelqu'un, on lui laisse le choix des
|>      armes. Ca serait trop facile sinon.


  Eh ben, monsieur Olivier a le sens de l'humour acide, on dirait... Je le dis
et je le repete - malgre tout ce que tu pourras dire - WPI etait AUSSI un :-)
pour moi. La question avait une ironie qui t'a manifestement echappe...

  En ce qui concerne le duel, je vais verifier pour le coup des armes. En fait,
c'est sur la definition d'offense que je vais bosser, puisque c'est le point
decisif du choix. Tu ne perds rien pour attendre...:-)

  Quant a Sylvuck, je lui laisse le soin de te repondre, je regarderai ca avec
interet, ca promet...

  Derniere chose, en aparte: je trouve desolant qu'on en arrive, comme aux EU,
a etre oblige de mettre des :-) chaque fois qu'on veut dire quelque chose qui
sort de la neutralite prudente... L'humour cache, a n degres, c'est joli pour-
-tant... Et la, s.c.f. commence a ressembler a un newsgroup americain. Dommage.

						Z.

	Iseki, c'est tout le Jardinage pres de chez vous.

  (Concessionnaires Sylvuck&Zozo, 2 Av. E. Belin, 31400 TOULOUSE)
From: osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X)
Subject: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Organization: Twilight Zone
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:08:51 GMT

	The title of this thread makes me laugh.  Anyone who trusts any
	government, especially the US Guv, is a certifiable IDIOT.

	Thank you very much.

	-Andy V.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french,talk.politics.guns
From: dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek)
Subject: Re: Guns, Motorcycles, and Internet Access in Paris
Keywords: guns and surrealism
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:06:55 GMT

zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>In article <529@tls-cs.cert.fr>
>maillet@tls-cs.cert.fr (Luc Maillet) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug16.123701.14788@husc3.harvard.edu>,
>>zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>>  D'apres ce que j'en sais. Il y a deux cas possibles: soit cette arme n'est
>>pas destinee a etre transportee (stockee a domicile, par ex), et dans ce cas,
	(french text deleted)
>Tu sais, plusieurs de mes ancetres ont ete asphyxies par les Nazis; quant a
>ma tante, elle a ete violee et tuee par quelque salaud.  Moi, j'aimerais
>bien qu'ils eussent une arme quelconque afin d'etre capable de se defendre
>pendant ces temps-la...

	Could someone translate this for the French impared?

					James Dusek
From: osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X)
Subject: Re: Guns, and the necessity to trust our governement.
Organization: Twilight Zone
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:12:43 GMT

In article <26720@life.ai.mit.edu> benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud) writes:

	blah blah blah SNIP...
>
>A gun, like tobacco, is a government approved good which, when used as
>directed, causes death.
>
>Benjamin.
>

	I'm afraid you have no idea at all of what you are talking about.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.french:5986 talk.politics.guns:19687