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From: adf1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: HELP USING STOCK BENEFITS
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:33:14 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton


  I am interested in using my stockholder benefits in planning a trip to Disney
World.  This won't be my first trip there but it will be the first time in
using the benefits.  We will be flying and staying at the Polynesian.  Can
some one give me information on how to use them and what the best deal is? I
will probably be going early summer or late August when the park is open late
but off season rates are still in effect.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Carole Francis
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: stailey@bugs.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: BATB: Inconsistencies? (Was Re: Just Saw Alladin)
Reply-To: stailey@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola LMPS Research, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:54:18 GMT

(Ben Magid) writes:

*>Hmmm.  I thought it looked similar to the Prince after the Transformation.
*>Not exact, maybe, but it didn't look 11.  Not to rehash the thread, but
*>that would also mean that Chip was more than 10 year old, which he didn't
*>look to be.  I don't think there is any full explanation....perhaps Disney
*>just didn't realise the inconsistency.

*Maybe chip was born after the enchantment. Who knows maybe magic spells 
*can be inherited. I don't know who the father would be, but it was just an
*idea.

 I just figured that the staff did not age during the transformation,
 but I guess that would contradict the enchantment itself.

 --
 Michael                      
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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Aladdin wishes
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:51:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.215626.24861@nb.rockwell.com> guthrie@nb.rockwell.com (Karen Guthrie) writes:
>
>In article <1iv7m8INNkr2@shelley.u.washington.edu>, thom@cac.washington.edu (Thom Roholt) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan12.184605.10130@zeus.ieee.org> jcichock@ep.ieee.org writes:
>> >On his third wish, why doesn't Aladdin wish for more wishes? Is this something only
>> >Jafar would wish for and not someone as likable as Aladdin? Did the Genie go over
>> >this during the rules for making wishes? Just a thought.
>> >
>> >Jeff
>> 
>> Yes, the Genie placed three restrictions on wishes:
>> 
>> 1.  No extra wishes.  You only get 3.
>> 2.  The Genie cannot bring people back to life.  They return like a Pet
>>     Sematary type (I think).
>> 3.  The Genie cannot make someone fall in love with the wisher.
>> 
>> Thom
>> 
>
>Jafar did not wish for more wishes he wished to be a powerful sorcerer
>so that he would have magic of his own.  His wishes were to
>1.  Be Sultan
>2.  Be the most powerful sorcerer in the world
>3.  Be a genie

When you put all 3 three wishes together in a list like that, it's
easy to see how narrow-minded Jafar was.  Just like most villains, all
he wanted was power, Power, POWER!!  I'd say he was rather obsessed.


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: I'm going backstage at WDW! for free!!
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Jan 93 06:18:35 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

 > When was the last time you went to Pleasure Island instead of
 > school?
 > And when was the last time your school paid for you to do that?
 
I've got a question for you:
 
Where do people from Disney University go when they play hooky?  :-)

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From: amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Subject: Re: Just Saw Alladin...
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:27:51 GMT

In article <uslave.726182430@mcl> uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!) writes:
>In <29018@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>
>>In article <athos-301292011330@kip2-50.apple.com>, athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>>> 3) Can we get a woman who doesn't look like Belle/Ariel/EveryOtherWoman?
>
>> first, how old were Ariel and Belle supposed to be - Ariel was what 16? Far 
>>from a woman in my mind, Belle? Not much older I suspect...
>
>Disney said that Belle was supposed to be a bit older, like around 21
>probably, if I remember the LA Times article correctly.  Whether 21
>makes a female a woman is your opinion.  I'd like to think it's a matter
>of maturity, and not age.  In that case, Belle would be a woman IMHO.

For whatever it's worth, Paige O'Hara says that Belle is 18, if I remember the
article correctly.  Which might partially explain why the townspeople think
she's weird.  Someone in a side-thread was saying how women were considered
ready for marriage at 14 or so a few hundred years ago.  So would Belle, who's
a couple years older and shows no romantic interest towards the most eligible
guy in town, be considered an old maid by the townsfolk?  (Geez, what would
that make ME?! ;-)
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From: jjdti@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.D.Tilander)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: BatB question
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:01:59 GMT
Organization: Chevron

I wrote earlier....

>>>Couldn't this just be a case of continuity error?  This happens all the time
>>>in movies.
>>
>>*gasp*
>>
>>A continuity error?!  In BATB?  Say it ain't so!  Next you'll be putting
>>down Aladdin!
>
>Many TV series and a few movies I've seen have one or more persons
>credited specifically for "continuity."  Even so, you could sometimes
>sit around all day picking out inconsistencies.
>
There is a person responsible, at least in movies, for continuity (they have
nothing in their title to indicate it...if you're interested, post to rec.arts.
movies).  However, when I suggested a continuity error, I was just trying to
point out an explanation for the original subject.  I'm not one to care about
these things much either.  Whenever they're pointed out, I'm amazed that 
people notice them.  I never do...and it really doesn't detract at all from
my love of BATB. 
-- 
Janet Tilander
Chevron Exploration and Production Services Co.
San Ramon, CA
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: What is it with the Hooters?
Date: 4 Jan 93 09:44:00 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1993Jan2.214209.7999@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:
>: Absolutely.  Why not?  I don't mind.  I don't have 7 Ariel posters on my wall
> : 'cuz I like the way Flounder looks.  :)
> Ariel?  Try again....  How about Belle...  Geez... Some people have absolutely
> _no_ taste.... =)

 Geez - no offesne folks but you're talking about children here.... perhaps the
fact that I have a 16 year old daughter gives me a certain bias but between this
crap and the woman who lusts after the what? 14 year old Aladdin? I start to
wonder about this group....



			gln
From: allyn@sdd.hp.com (Allyn Fratkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: character warehouse info
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:32:11 -0800
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdlx.sdd.hp.com

i went to the character warehouse yesterday.  the place is fabulous!
it is located in the belz factory outlet center (building 2).  the center
is located at the north end of international drive in orlando.  it is
a fair drive from the wdw complex.  take i-4 east to the international
drive exit, then turn left and go straight until you run into it.

they didn't have all sizes of things, and some things were blemished.
they had a couple of racks of misprinted t-shirts and while some were 
obvious (one or more colors not printed or shirt folded while printing),
i couldn't find anything wrong with some of them.

they were selling a lot of summer clothing (shorts, tank tops).

here's a listing of the few things that i can remember they have:

quite a lot of the merchandise from jessica's (the now defunct jessica
rabbit store at pleasure island).  satin hats for $3.95.  potholders
for $1.99 (list $3.95).  blemished aprons for $4.  towels embroidered with 
a small jessica for less than half original price (full set in white, wash 
cloths in green, bath towels in black).  generic lingerie.  black tote bags
for $6.99 with jessica and the "i'm not bad... i'm just drawn that way" line.
embroidered jessica satin jackets for $29.99 (list $90).

the fantasia deluxe (vhs) set for $29.99 (list $99.99).

fantasia sweatshirts showing the famous silouhette of mickey and stokowski
for $13.99 (list $36).

20th anniversary mickey mouse ears $.99 (list $3.95).

large (14" high) mickey plush for $29.99 (i think, might have been 19.99).

there was a large selection of typhoon lagoon shirts.

there was a large selection of polo-type shirts with small embroidered
logos, mostly for the resorts.  i guess they don't sell well at 
original prices ($30).  they had shirts for the contemporary resort,
yacht club, carribean beach resort, neon armadillo, typhoon lagoon, rock and 
roll beach club, and grand floridian (and probably others i can't remember).  
these shirts came in various colors and were marked down to either $14.99
or $11.99.

denim shorts with mickey silk screened on one leg $18.99.

i don't have children, so i didn't go into the children's section.  sorry.

i hope this gives everyone an idea of what is available at the
character warehouse.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: hyler@ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Re: Aladdin: Oh Baby!
Reply-To: hyler@ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:07:12 GMT

Does anyone know if they have a Darkwing Duck character walking
around at Disneyland?  We've seen him in the commercials for
Walt Disney World and now in the Disney on Ice commercials but
he's never been around when we've visited Disneyland in the last
two years.  My son (almost 6) desparately wants to meet him.  My
son's current career goal is to be a scientist and hero "just like
Darkwing".  Also, are the characters scheduled on a regular basis
such that I could call the Disneyland info number and find out
if he will be appearing on a given day?  And at what time?  

Thanks!
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SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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From: Jerald.Thomas@launchpad.unc.edu (Jerald Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Jafar...hmmmm
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:30:05 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service




>Is it just me, or did anyone else think that Jafar looked a little like
>the Grinch (side view)?

Absolutely! I thought that his teeth and his grin had a strong similarity.





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From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin wishes
Date: 13 Jan 1993 04:53:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdcc13.ucsd.edu

In article <1993Jan13.034604.26576@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>In article <1993Jan13.025935.4025@leland.Stanford.EDU> bunnyman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Edwin Chen) writes:
>>
>>Just out of curiousity, where does the term "ixnay" come from???
>>
>	It's pig-latin for "nix". To nix means, roughly, to
>prevent something from happening. "His mother nixed the party".

If you want to go even further, "nix" comes from the German word
"nichts," which means nothing; I mean, literally "nothing"--you know
what I mean: lack of something. :-)


- Robert Cook
From: kimd@gizmo.usc.edu (Kim Daugherty)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Anne of Green Gables/Avonlea
Date: 4 Jan 1993 08:05:46 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gizmo.usc.edu


My wife and I saw Anne of Green Gables on the Disney Channel last month and just
watched the sequel Anne of Avonlea.  We loved them both.  Does anybody know if
the fine actress that played Anne, Megan Follows, has any other movie credits?

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From: tsmith@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Finally found The Little Mermaid!!!
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:29:38 PST
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

                  "The Quest for The Little Mermaid"

Hello disney fans,
	Anyways, I just wanted to elaborate on what a hassel i've had 
trying to obtain an original version of The Little Mermaid on VHS.  First,
one and a half years ago I saw at least 100 vhs cassettes at the price club
going for approx. $18.95 ea.  I thought to my self I would wait till my son 
or daughter is born before I purchase it.  7 Months ago my son was born so I
thought, no problem, i'll just mosey on down to the price club and pick up
the cassette for he could watch it when he reaches about 2 years of age.
Wronggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!  All tapes were sold out months ago and they 
said that they were not going to get any in at all.  No problem, i'll just
to to the local video/music store, went to Sam Goody...Nada...went to Music
plus...Nada....went to 5 independant video stores...nada...went to Sears...
none, went to Target...none....went to 4 diffrent malls...none, all retailers
said that the tape was out of print and they were not expecting any
re-releases of The Little Mermaid.  I finally figured that Disney and their
infinite wisdom wanted to re-release the movie on all major theaters and then
after the movie was out for awhile, release the movie on vhs again and 
capitalize on the movie a second time for a profit no dought.  I figured I
would be able to obtain the tape around the year 2,000 if I was lucky.  
All this searching was done in L.A. so i'm not sure if other cities or states
were the same.  

Well anyways to make a long story short, I was with a relative during the
Christmas season, in San Jose, in line renting a few movies during the 
vacation when this man ahead of us over heard me talking about the trouble
I have looking for The Little Mermaid video.  He turned around and said I
have the tape and my kids are tired of watching the video, would be interested
in purchasing it, I said without hesitation, I'll give you $20.00 for it.
He said I'll be right back, 5 minutes later he came with his son who owned
it and said it was his son's but his son wanted to get rid of it, I said well
in that case this $20.00 belongs to your son, handed the money to the 8 year
old and walked out with the tape, the tape was in perfect cond., contained
the original plastic case cover, also contained the advertisments included
with the tape.  I can't believe the luck I had but still can't believe how
long it took to obtain the tape.  Was this a good deal???  I don't know, but
what I do know is that in about a year my son will injoy the tape, at 7
months of age he is already kissing the cover of the case, right smack on 
Ariel's cheek, I guess you could say he already has a crush on her.  I just
hope he developes the concept that she's just animated.  Has anybody out there
had the trouble I had to obtain the movie???

Tom.
From: cvalj001@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney computer animation
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:07:31 GMT
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvalj001


    I recently posted some information about Disney's animation department.  I
have a brother who works there.  However, I have been told that I was not to
give out his e-mail address or divulge any information about his employment.  I
guess I screwed the pooch on this one!  So as a favor to me, forget you ever
heard of me or him and what ever you do, don't e-mail him.  Sorry for the mix
up.   It was all a bad dream.  Sorry.



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From: amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Subject: Re: Observations regarding TLM
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:26:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.043835.3353@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>In <1993Jan8.014013.16294@news2.cis.umn.edu> amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian) writes:
>
>>Hear, hear!  The first time I saw TLM and Flounder waddled/swam onto screen, 
>>I couldn't help but think that you could get at LEAST a box of fishsticks out 
>>of him!  (Ok, so maybe my date and I that night were being extraordinarily 
>>cheap and I hadn't had dinner yet and couldn't help but think about food.  
>>Or maybe I was totally cynical at the time, or was trying to be funny.  I 
>>don't remember.  Go figure.  :-)
>
>Sacrilege!  Go bury your head in a bucket of water, quick!

SPLASH!!  glub glub glub...whooosh...<gasp wheeze>  "I can't breathe!" <cough>
"Put her head back in the water!"  
"AGGHH, NO!" <choke>
SPLASH!!  glub glub gargle glub glub...whoosh..<choke gasp>
"Do you recant, heretic?"
<cough choke> "Stop pulling my hair!"
<YANK> "OWWWW!!!" SPLASH!!!.....;-)
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From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Just Saw Alladin...
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:17:32 GMT

In <1993Jan4.230506.4586@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:

>	The most interesting thing about the WIP LaserDisc that
>Disney put out was that we got to see the early conceptions of
>both Belle and the Beast. In the storyboarding, Belle looks VERY
>young, on the order of 12.

I don't think that the storyboard drawings of the characters were meant
to look like them.  I mean, look at the storyboard drawing of Gaston.
He looked totally goofy (not LIKE Goofy  :) ).

>	In the rough-sketch prologue, we see the picture of the
>prince as the beast slashes it with his claws. That picture also
>has a much younger face, possibly even 11, and leads me to think
>that Disney really did mean the "10 years we've been

Hmmm.  I thought it looked similar to the Prince after the Transformation.
Not exact, maybe, but it didn't look 11.  Not to rehash the thread, but
that would also mean that Chip was more than 10 year old, which he didn't
look to be.  I don't think there is any full explanation....perhaps Disney
just didn't realise the inconsistency.


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From: hansb@cs.ruu.nl (Hans Bodlaender)
Subject: Re: TLM questions (was re: rec.arts.disney)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:12:03 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <uslave.726433138@mcl> uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!) writes:

>In <2587@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>
>>Another Little Mermaid question:
>
>>I keep seeing people write about `Eric's kingdom.'  In BATB the locale is
>>explicitly stated to be France; and if one looks for details (the hunting
>>lodge, the beer steins, etc.) one can surmise more specifically that the
>>story takes place in some place like Alsatia.  How about TLM?  Could Eric's
>>kingdom perhaps be a real place?  The most logical candidate would perhaps
>>be Denmark, but can anyone cite evidence from the film that this is indeed
>>so?
>
>Actually, my guess was Holland.  I think I remember seeing a windmill in
>the background.....?  Then again, I've never been to either place, so what
>do I know?  :)

As someone living in the Netherlands, and having been to Denmark, let me add a
guess to the discussion.

If the kingdom resembles any real kingdom, then I think that
the kingdom is Denmark, given the fact that Anderson wrote the story
and he lived there. Also, in Kopenhagen is this wonderfull little statue of
the Little Mermaid - you see it in the movie (I think just after Ariel has
rescued Eric).

Everything in the movie reminds me more of Denmark then of the Netherlands - I
would be really surprised if Holland was used as a model in TLM, so I guess
that won't be the case. Oh, and the Danish also have a few windmills (not as
many as we have, though.)

	     Regards,

		 Hans Bodlaender
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Truce?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:11:32 GMT

Attention: Squid.

Ok, look, I challenged you to that duel in a moment of rash machismo or
something.  How about we reach some amicable agreement over just who
"owns" Ariel, hmmm?  Here's my suggestion:  We both get visiting rights
whenever she happens to be in the relevant hemisphere, O.K.?  Now what
could be fairer than that?  If you still want to do the duel for
interest's sake, go for it, but it won't change the access rights unless
you take me to court. :)

Tim Pickett, knowing full well that the Southern Hemisphere has far more
ocean than the northern . . .
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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: The seven dwarves
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:53:08 GMT

In <1993Jan4.172059.9287@cs.tulane.edu> js@cs.tulane.edu (Jan Silbermann) writes:

>>> :> Okay, I'm stuck.  What are the names of the seven dwarves
>>> :> from Snow White?

>  Pleases forgive this trivial question, but it's driving me crazy.
>  On every "Snow White" piece of merchandise I own Disney writes
>  the plural of dwarf as "dwarfs." Shouldn't it be "dwarves?"

Another Tolkien addict . . . . oh dear.

I think the correct spelling is "dwarfs", which is pronounced "dwarves".
Look up that in a dictionary.  When Tolkien did "Lord of the Rings" he
chose the latter spelling for some reason.  He says that the reason is
given in one of the numerous appendices but the page references in my
copy are all garbled and I never managed to find it.

Tim Pickett