From: forda@gtephx.UUCP (Andrew Ford @ AGCS, Phoenix, Arizona)
Subject: Re: Bush is a mother fucker
Organization: gte
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:00:10 GMT

In article <ART.92Sep9113120@world.std.com>, art@world.std.com (Al Thompson) writes:
> In article <ayrn6jp.jmoody@netcom.com> jmoody@netcom.com (Jim Moody) writes:
> 
>    Well the point is actually not who "started" farm subsidies...there were 
>    good reasons for them then etc that we can debate some other time ....but
>    whether or not Bush, the great free marekteer, used the promise of $7 billion
>    dollars in subsidies to try and blatantly buy the votes of Americas farmers.
[...]

The simplist solution to this is to undo the alcahol laws so that pure
grain alcahol can be sold as fuel.  If America's autos were converted 
to alcahol, we wouldn't need foreign oil, we wouldn't have a much polution,
and we wouldn't need to subsidize farmers.

>    Evidence is, based on sudden reversal of a previously held position, that he 
>    is up to his usual tricks of promising ANYTHING that will get him elelcted.

There han't been a single Democratic or Republican politician for at least the
last 15 years who hasn't done *exactly* the same thing.

It's time to tell *both* parties that they need to shape up: vote Libertarian
(Andre Marrou) and tell both parties that they're screwed up.  (No, I wouldn't
expect Marrou to win, but if he can garner 15-20% of the popular vote, the
Demcocrats and Republicans *would* wake up and look around.)   Furthermore,
the Libertarian party is for reducing the folly of Big Brother.

>    The economic evidence of the declining wealth of the American worker, evidence
>    which Bush says he doesn't accept, should get him ousted, but this kind of thing
>    may keep him in power.  Heaven help us if it does.
> 
> He shouldn't accept it because it's not true.  See the August 31, 1992
> issue of The National Review for a complete discussion of this; a
> discussion containing more numbers and analysis than most people care to
> sit through.  But, read it carefully and see the liberal lies exposed.

The only reason there are more "poor" in America is cuz more folks are on
welfare (and welfare is not counted as income when determining if someone
is poor).  The working class folks are better off.

I was rasied "on the wrong side of the tracks."  While I seldom went hungry,
I seldom enjoyed the food we had (Lentel burgers anyone? blech!).  Let's 
just say that jailbirds eat nicer food than I did as a kid.  In 1981, 
I graduated from high school: in 1984 from college.  Today I earn close
to $50k, own a home, a boat, a 4x4, and a minivan (and the associated
payments) and I've even got a few bucks in the bank.  When I grew up
I *never* went on a family vacation (couldn't afford more than an
afternoon outing): my kids get at least 3 weeks of vacation (and I mean
vacation as in on the lake or at Disney Land, etc) every year.  As a 
child, all my clothing was from the Salvation Army (even underware), and
I was the lucky one cuz my brothers got mostly hand-me-downs: each of my
kids today has more clothes in their closet than I had over a four year
peroid, and my kid's clothes are purchased new.  All in all, I have 
come a *very* long way and have prospered (financially) over the last
11 years.

Yes, the American Dream must be over -- at least for those who refuse
to work.

My concern today is loss of freedom: the ten amendments which comprise
the bill of rights are being eroded at breakneck speed -- every
damn one of them is being violated or encroached by the federal 
government today (If you want a total list of how each of the
first ten amendments are being violated, read alt.society.civil-liberty - 
there is a thread on that subject over there right now.)

This is why I will vote for neither the Dems or Repubs: the real
threat to the average joe in America is loss of liberty, the real
shame is that the average joe won't appreciate what he has until
after it has been taken away: and neither Bush nor Clinton gives
a rat's back side about that.

-- 
"25 States allow anyone to buy a gun, strap it on, and walk down the street with
no permit of any kind: some say it's crazy.  However, 4 out of 5 US murders are 
committed in the other half of the country: so who is crazy?"   -  Andrew Ford
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