HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kgonsal@eng.clemson.edu (Spooky)
Subject: LOOKIING for MURALI PRAKRIYA , IIT(K)- CLASS OF 89.
Keywords: LOOKING HELP WANTED PERSON NET-PEOPLE
Reply-To: kgonsal@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:34:46 GMT



i am posting this for a friend of mine, Srinivas Pappu,
who is looking for :

***************************************************************************
Name:	Murali Prakriya
B.Tech(hons) from IIT Kharagpur in Instrumentation Engg.
Graduated in 1989.
Joined U Miami in 1989 and I believe he graduated from there in 1991 dec.
He may have joined Case Western Univ, Cleveland or Boston Univ.

I tried calling directory assistance in Boston and cleveland but of no use.
May be the telephone is in his roommate's name or something.

I would like any suggestions etc for tracking him down.
One sure way is to call IRS( see where he filed the tax forms) 
but They won't let this info out.

Anyway, can anyone help me out?

pappu,

***************************************************************************
I would appreciate it if you mail all replies to :

srinivas@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com

Tel# (617) 575 1054 (home)

---------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Stories
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:18:47 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu


[lots of unnecessary junk by Anish deleted]

>Hey doki you tasteless morAn (tm?),

when did you taste me? i don't remember it yat allll....

>Buy a brain will ya?

i already asked you three times as to where you bought your brain.
anyway now atleast tell me so that i can get one.....for others like
you who really need it.

>Finally someone posts something worth READING on the net and you object?

you morAn, who ever told you that the articles are not worth reading?
i only asked (if not requested) her to take them to the relevant
groups. also you can still read them from there.

>Of course, someone accustommed to your type of verbal diaorreah would

is that a new disease? i only heard of diarrhoea(sp?)

>And Shyamala, I am sure you wont take the MorAns (tm?) statements 
>seriously (his stupid .sig file not withstanding). I for one really 
>liked your story and would like to read more.

i still am not able to understand what you are trying to do! anyway i
think you wont' succeed. 
if you really like stories you can check out this ftp site. it has
really fundu stories.

the site is cnam.cnam.fr

the directory is: /pub/Archives  (with an upper case A)


suresh
From: v079rbu4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sanjay Kohli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Pak Interference in Kerala (Was Islamic rebellion)
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:40:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bw8351.BzD@ns1.nodak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes...
>I am really intrigued by these recent postings that have appeared
>regarding Pak presence in Kerala.
> 
>If any of this is true, it means that Pakistan has now started
>fomenting trouble in the relatively peaceful and stable
>south-india.
> 
>What should India do about  this. It is high time that India
>wakes up and starts retalliating like the Isrealis. I say
>that we should further strengthen ties with the Isrealis
>and also teach Pak a solid lesson, if this keeps on going.
> 
>I am really tired of this unceasing Pak nitpicking with
>India. Instead of concentrating on economic development
>it is hell bent on harassing India and does not allow
>us to progress.
> 
>I feel that the next time there is a war, we should take 
>care of this once for all.
> 
>I've had enough
> 
>sivaram
>Jai-Hind


      I think you are absolutely right its about time. I hope Rao government 
wakes up now otherwise it will be to late. We don't need another Kashmir.


Cheers
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Fake posts and fake letters
Date: 10 Oct 1992 18:56:14 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu



here is one article that was posted a couple of days back. i am
pretty sure who did it but i don't want to get his name in public. i
am going to send him email so that he knows he is caught. ;-) ( don't
worry i am not the kind to send a Cc to the root)

[note the message-id in the headers which gives out the location of
the culprit.]

here is the article and the personal letter:
...........................................................................

From bigboote.WPI.EDU!noc.near.net!hri.com!spool.mu.edu!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!sgiblab!daver!news.chips.com! Sat Oct 10 14:48:52 EDT 1992
Article: 85273 of soc.culture.indian
From: sdoki@maxine.ne.n.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: SOME DOKI JOKES
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:42:10 GMT
Orgm: m: Worcester ?  Shtechnic Institute

was red6.204042.23752@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1992Oct6.213816.5138@cis.o)
Dats and h7.183035.10763@velaelaekland.edu>
N writes:
> Hesu.et: RDRDRpi.edu
-Amds: jokes

jayaram anand said:

>what's worse than people who are kidding ?
>ce
h who arHa^sure whether they are kidding or not .
>P.S. I re bot ot oing. Really.
>J Anand.


hey why don't you give up?


its high time you do it.



suresh
sh
sews 1210
From: df

...........................................................................


the letter:

From sdoki Thu Oct  8 15:09:07 1992
Return-Path: <sdoki>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 15:09:06 EDT
From: sdoki (Suresh Doki)
Message-Id: <9210081909.AA29986@maxine.wpi.edu>
Apparently-To: <sdoki>
Status: OR


Hello Suresh

Just testing. I am your friend. If you receive this message
post it on the net. Then I will know that the algorithm worked.


Akasaramanna

...........................................................................


is akasaramanna = sitarama????


how did i find out? ha ha !!! made a wild guess i guess



suresh





Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kxg5947@usl.edu (Guruswamy Kowsik)
Subject: Info on architecture
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:06:29 GMT

Hi netters,
  I know this is going to be the wrong group for such a question. I checked
up the .newsrc file for any groups on architecture and couldn't find any.
This posting is actually for my friend in India who is doing his B. Arch
course. His thesis is 'FILM CITY' and he wants me to send him some
information on design of studios, and other design info' needed for the
same. Is there anyone in Hollywood or any other place where I can get the
info'? I would appreciate any pointers to this. Please email me the
information.

Thanx in advance,
Delta.

email : delta@usl.edu
phone : (318)-233-5373

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: susanc@rice.edu (susan chacko)
Subject: Re: more about india (from Subbarao)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:45:27 GMT

Shyamala Parameswaran <U15297@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Subbarao's note posted (with permission):

>Very nicely said. I can't believe that reasonable people like Uma S,
>Susan and others have made it their life's duty to "prove" that there
>is more physical sexual harrassment in India than there is in US.

A snide comment, to be sure. Of course, I'm duly grateful that I'm
described as 'reasonable' (I suppose I'm 'reasonable' because I usually
agree with Subbarao's position, but now I'm completely unreasonable
because I don't? :-))

As far as the argument goes, I still do believe that there is a
particular form of sexual harassment in India which is considerably
less prevalent here. The public transportation aspect of it was an
example, as was obvious from the context. I could counter Subbarao's
argument of less crowding in the buses and trains with an example of a
relatively uncrowded city street. But this sort of anecdotal trading
can go on forever with very little illumination, and I don't want to
keep repeating what I've said in my other posts. I don't think any of
the posters were ignoring the fact that sexual harassment exists in 
various forms in the US, by the way. Nor do I have any easy solutions, 
except to make sure that my sons understand what it feels like from 
a woman's perspective. 

Susan.


--
Mail from this account is forwarded to susan@vger.niddk.nih.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prabhak@deci.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: More About India
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:29:02 GMT

(Sylvia D'Cruz) writes:
>or else...". Some Indian men are so egocentric, that their word has to be
>final in everything. The women is more often suppressed, restricted and not
>allowed to grow. She is relegated to certain chores and duties, and if they
>are going fine, the man can sleep, with a sense of duty accomplished and a
>
>I think the ultimate companion for an Indian male, should be the dog, the 
>ever faithful, ever at your service, if well trained can show some tricks to 
>his male friends and is around in sight only when needed. Maybe the indian
>male may have to resort to that in the future, if he does not change.
>
I am with you in principle. But such sweeping generalizations are only
counterproductive since some fella will start "So, you think all men
are like that ha? I have an example..."

It is true that women in India have been pushed into a submissive role,
mostly because they were dependent on men. Now, one can argue that 
a man ought not to treat a person like that, especially his wife, because
a marriage is holy union and all that. But that is being idealistic and
the argument is insulated from reality. 

Amost all human interactions have an instrinsic power dynamic in them.
Suppose my friend asks me for a loan. While I accede to his request,
I don't feel ashamed to ask him to come over to my house to pick the
dough up. Why? He is dependent on me. If a wife is not working, it is
understandable why the wage-earning man feels the power over his wife.
The more evolved might not let that affect the relationship. But most
humans relish the power, and, in many cases, they abuse it. While I
do not defend abusive relationship at all (I am married and my wife
is expecting a lil' one in a couple of weeks; in our case it is my
wife who calls the shots - I think she is abusing her power
but she says she is just keeping the house clean and tidy :-)),
I feel it is naive to ignore human temptation of power.

How can women get out of this mess? The most effective means, in my
opinion, is financial independence. Both my sisteers work and I can
see the difference in the way they interact with their husbands when
compared to my momma. All other appeals to finer emotions in the man
who has a dependent wife or any other relation, in my opinion, produce
little if any result.

I would expect precisely the same problem if the roles are reversed.

Let me now quit with a quote from Socrates: By all means, marry. If you
get a good wife, you will be happy. Otherwise, you will become a 
philosopher. :-)

Best regards,

Satya Prabhakar
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MORE ABOUT INDIA / INDIAN WOMEN ARE TREATED FAR BETTER THAN HERE.
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:16:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1992Oct7.144229.3469@meaddata.com> udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz) writes:
>In article <1ath1lINNif7@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu) writes:
>|> Indian women are treated in a manner far better than women here. Though 
>|> there are always the exceptions where eve-teasers,  and rapists etc, as
>|> well as the bride-burners exist.
>
>It is more a RULE, than an exception.

I do not agree. They are still exceptions than the rule.


>
>Maybe the wrong girl was targeted. She may have had some admirers, in that
>crowd, or more likely friends, brother or someone she actually knows. It is
>not uncommon, to find collegues on the same train platform, or bus stop.
>And, maybe she has some clout. (If your women boss was the target, and she 
>knew you were there in that crowd, I bet you would stick your neck out).


It is not a single incident that I am talking about. I have seen plenty of
such incidents where the road-side romeos as they are known as getting the
beating of their life.

>The only reason, that India had a women Prime minister, is because she was 
>the only next-of-kin of the dead prime minister. The political party could
>not even come up with a suitable replacement. The fact that they tried to drag
>the previous prime-minister' widow and daughter into, it, too is evidence to
>this. Maybe you could compare the number of women in politics, over here, to
>those in India. Maybe you could come up with something more realistic.

How about Golda Meir, and Sirimavo Bandaranaike. Of course you could say in
defence that even in Sri Lanka's case, Solomon Bandaranaike was the one who
initiated his daughter into politics. But after that,  it required the fact
that these ladies had to have something good in them,  and  the populace of 
the nations had seen something in their ability,  that made them elect them
election after election. Certainly there seem  to be more women in politics
in India at the grassroots as well as state and national level than in the 
U.S..


>Sylvia D. D'Cruz                                
Regards,
Vivek.


-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Systems Engineering Laboratory, Department Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Prof. Indiresan's visit to the US and Europe
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:18:48 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

It is not my intention to offend anyone(including
the originol poster). I am just expressing my
observations/opinions.

	  The faculty of IITs are accustomed to visit
	  US or Europe or some other country on short/
	  sabbatical leaves. Most of them would like to
	  make use of their visits to go around(along with
	  their families, if they are accompanying) the places.
	  The natural choice is contacting the ex-IITians who are spread
	  all over. The oblized ex-students make arrangements
	  for their ex-teachers' visits.

	  Is it not a kind of imposing on students?
	  OR
	  Is it a kind of "Guru Dhakshana"?

No flames please. You can express your opinions/comments.

--SN
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Respect for women in India (was Re: More about India)
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: 8 Oct 1992 17:16:53 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov

	Hi net pals and palinis,

		I have been following this recent discussion about 
	eve-teasing/harassment/whatever-you-call-it, and have contributed
	my own opinion once or twice. However, the way it is being carried
	on now seems rather disappointing, with considerably more heat than 
	light.
		I agree about some of the things Aruna Mahadevan, Sylvia, 
	Uma etc are saying. But I have noticed one trend of late. Rather
	than express their point of view, there have been repeated references 
	to what they assume Indian men to be. I feel that is somewhat unfair,
	and clouds the issues a bit. I don't have the articles at hand to
	quote verbatim, but this is the general idea: Someone posted that
		"men just want their wives to be at their beck
		 and call, to do what their husbands want......"

		Comments like these are really generalizations, extrapolated
	from your own experience with the men you have happened to meet. It
	is highly misleading to apply this to a whole gender group. To put
	it into perspective, it is as inaccurate as a man saying :
		"women really appreciate being whistled/hooted
		 at; they just don't admit it. "

		 How does that make women feel ?? My point is that it would
	lead to a much more interesting discussion if we did not make 
	assumptions of each others thoughts/morals/intentions/ethics/........

		There are men and there are men. Some may behave in the
	boorish fashion that you describe, but I know several guys who are not 
	like that. I don't think a woman's place is at home, or that women as 
	a group have a lesser contribution to make. But I am not saying that
	is true of all the guys. I think it is only fair that you recognize
	that the opposite is also true.

		Prem!
================================================================================
==  Customer    : Er... Excuse me, Does this Barbie come with Ken ??          ==
==  Salesperson : No sir. Barbie comes with G.I.Joe. She fakes it with Ken.   ==
================================================================================
From: ngarg@HP-UX (Niraj K. Garg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for IRMA Grad's
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:46:39 GMT

Hi Netters,

   I am looking for fellow graduates of the Institute of Rural Management,
   Anand (IRMA). If you are a graduate yourself or know somebody who is,
   Please get in touch with me.

   email : cimshop!mtnview!KGARG@uunet.UU.NET
   Tel (off) : (415) 691-6100 x478.
   Tel (res) : (415) 390-8473.

   Neeraj Garg.
   Batch of 87-89.

   p.s. Come on all you Nani's, Ravi's and Bharat's and Ramji's and Sanjay's
	I would love to get in touch with you feller's again.
From: hemant@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hemant.b.bhatt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Narmada Dam
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:25:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewse.1992Oct14.212552.15853
Organization: AT&T


There are repeat mails apposing Narmada Dam. Is there any
pro Narmada Dam group so we can have our voice heard? The
farmers need water for irrigation and electricity is much
needed. Who is supporting their cause?
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Thanks! For Responses
Date: 15 Oct 1992 19:51:22 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

 (Shyamala Parameswaran) lies:

>I received an overwhelming number of responses to the story,
>This Life To Life. Since I could not acknowledge them all
>individually, here is my sincere appreciation for all your
>valuable comments. Each one helped me in some way. But

nonsense! everyone here knows that your stories are unwanted. these
stories belong to other groups. most probably the bozos from that
group must have responded to you requesting you NOT to bring those
stories to their group.

am i right?

suresh
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: In article 12815@noose.ecn.purdue.edu, gayathri@ec.ecn.purdue.edu
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:57:11 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, U15297@uicvm.uic.edu (Shyamala Parameswaran) said:
:- ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) says:
:- >
:- >        no but i have listened to k.d.lang's "constant cravings". pretty
:- >        rip-roaring stuff too, if you are a masochist-type.
:- >
:- >        i wonder what his patients think about his books! ;) just a
:- >        thought...
:- >
:- *Read* R D Laing first. There's nothing masochist there nor are
:- there generalizations. Just some anecdotal truths, in good humor.

	in the same vein, i must encourage you to "read my article
	first"! i was talking about kd lang's song (re: masochism) not
	mr. laing's literary works.

:- Re. his patients, you'll have to find out *after* the reading,
:- won't you?

	tick appropriate:

	_ he conducts therapy through his books?
	_ or his books are about how his patients feel?

	thank you.

	peace,

	- ravi


-- 
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          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: (hah hah ha!)
Subject: paavai :/: paarathiyaar
Keywords: 3
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 15:14:56 GMT

bun :/: appaLam

behaviour unknown ride.

take three popcorn before the meal three times per day.

suweet :=: sumeat

at the shame time i heard a punjabi song through p.

it's my life.

i am not a rock terminater.

possibleness is a possibleness only with that possibleness also possibleness 
their possibleness in the possibleness then possibleness.

bye 
 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz)
Subject: SCI posters club
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:10:42 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian

Anyone notice that SCI is male dominated ? Do you wonder why women never bother,
to express themselves, here ? I for one, was thrilled to see some women 
posting on "eve teasing".  A lot of my classmates and friends, who are women, 
and have access to SCI never post.  I cannot fathom why. Maybe some of you with
your infinite wisdom may try to badger a guess. Also, I wonder why some males,
who are supportive of some of the issues raised by women, resort to mail, to
indicate their support.

If, we the highly educated indians who have made it here and use this forum, 
can force other indians in subtle ways, to keep out, what does it imply ?
I don't think we are ready to respect the views of our fellow human beings.
We want to hear only what we want. We don't want nettors like Sylvia, breaking
our rhythm, our style, our dominance. Get her out. 

Thanks for some of the insights and unbiased views expressed by some of you.
This was my feeble attempt to show you, that these were some of the prejudices,
I faced by male counterparts in India itself. I am not a fighter. And, I 
don't have the time or the energy to pursue some of the things I would like
to get done for India, expecially, if at every step of the way, I have to
battle and prove my intentions to these guys. I may have given up my dreams,
but that does not mean that I do not love my country. As some of you wrongly
jumped to that conclusion. It is the small things that stop people with visions
from getting things done.  I admire the people, who inspite of these roadblocks,
go ahead with their dreams. But, I wish we made things a little easier for them.

Maybe this is a Goodbye to SCI. Another one bites the dust.....and another one's
gone. And, many more to go............

-- 
Sylvia D. D'Cruz
From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: because you like me too
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:56:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: ecs.18731.2ad83286

In article <1992Oct11.153416.19787@ugle.unit.no>, (culture caltivator) writes:
> bye

Ciao!! Adios......
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:33:44 -0400 
From: Milind Kandlikar <mk49+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: REPUBLICAN INDIANS

The only good ones are the dead ones!
And even they are frying in hell, evangelists and all.........
Milind
From: C1935@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (KAILASH JOSHI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian Stock Markets and IGF
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:42:48 GMT
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS

Can someone from India tell why the Indian Stock Market is again closed for
last two weeks.  I follow the stock quotes in Arab News which is available
in most US Univ Libraries, however, since last two it reports that market
was closed.  This can also be linked to the fall of IGF form $20 to $16.75
in the same period.  If any one has any info as to when the market will
reopen please share with us.
 
 
kailash.