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From: torban@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Torban Bennett)
Subject: Re: Skip to the Aggravation
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:46:30 GMT

davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:

>In article <torban.721642132@csuvax1> torban@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Torban Bennett) writes:
>>Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman) writes:
>>
>>>Annoy some Europeans -- talk US politics.  Annoy Americans -- slam US
>>>politicians.  Annoy Canadians -- talk about the dissolution of Canada....
>>
>>And what about us Australian's.  Can't you annoy us as well.  Pleeeeeas!

>Not possible.  We're too laid-back to get annoyed.

WHAT!!! ARE YOU SAYING ALL AUSTRALIANS ARE LAZY !!!!!!  
WELL I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW, I SIT HUNCHED OVER MY VT102 MINI-TOWER
RUNNING KERMIT AND BLAZEMONGER *ALL* DAY!  DID YOU HEAR THAT!!!!
*HUNCHED*FORWARD*, NOT LAID-BACK AT ALL!!!!

I HAVE TO HUNCH, BECAUSE THAT WAY I CAN *SWEAT* DIRECTLY INTO THE KEYBOARD,
WHICH IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, IS THE CHEAT FOR LEVEL 8,937 ON *BLAZEMONGER*.
YOU SEE THE SWEAT ALTERS THE SALINITY OF THE REGENERATING PIRHANA'S GOLDFISH
POND, WHICH AFFECTS THE RATE OF THEIR OSMOSTIC FORCES, ENABLING ME TO
SWIM PAST THEIR SHRIVELED BODIES, WITHOUT HAVING TO USE MY NAPALM UNDERWATER
FLAMETHROWER.  

NOW SOME OF YOU MORE STUPID PLAYERS MAY SAY "WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE N.U.F?"
WELL FYI YOU NEED IT ON LEVEL 12,308!  SO THERE!  DIDN'T PLAN AHEAD DID
WE?!?  I BET YOU'RE FEELING PRETTY STUPID RIGHT NOW, HAY!!
AND WHILE I'M ON THE TOPIC, A REALLY GREAT EFFECT WHICH THEY DON'T MENTION
IN THE MANUAL, IS TO PLUG YOUR TOASTER IN WITH A NULL MODEM CABLE, THAT WAY
YOU GET THE INCREDIBLE AROMA WHEN YOU FRY THE OCTO-SQUID WITH YOUR N.U.F!!!

I GOTTA STOP SHOUTING NOW, AS THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE STARTING TO
COMPLAIN!  WIMPS I TELL YOU!!!  THEY'RE JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
VOICE MAIL.  MINE ACTIVATES WHEN I SHOUT OVER 90db, AND IT USES CAPS IF I GO
OVER 120db!!!  IT'S SO MUCH FASTER THAN TYPING!

TORBAN BENNETT - THE NET-LURKER COMETH!
From: nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham)
Subject: Amiga/Video Toaster featured on TV program
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 06:16:07 GMT


Anyone see "Invention" on the Discovery Channel tonight.  Their lead
story was about the Video Toaster and NewTek.  It was pretty flattering
about the Toaster and they said the word Amiga a couple of times even. 
They showed some very interesting DTV done on the Toaster and interviewed
several people who used the Toaster etc.  They also talked a lot about
NewTek and the kind of company it was.  It made the Amiga and Toaster
seem very "futuristic" and powerful.  Even I was impressed by many of
the Toaster effects shown.  And they compared the Toaster to thousands
of dollars worth of editing equipment and used the words Desk Top Video 
several times.



                                  NCW
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: kjelli@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjell Irgens)
Subject: Re: New topic of the week - Is ECS dead?
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:51:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.042431.7595@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

|> My friend, how could you ignore the Amiga 600?  Why do you think Commodore
|> bother to manufacture it?? It is the _home computer designed for the 90's.  

Nah, I think A1200 is the _home computer designed for the 90s_.  It's cheap ehough.  A600
will probably be a kids machine or aimed for replacing C-64 in eastern europe!

|> And Guess what? it uses ECS!!!  If Commodore manages to sell tons of them,
|> expect to see a lot more ECS programs coming...

Hope not! ;)

|> 
|> (I am positive that the 600 will outsell the 4000 and the 1200).

Not me, Great Britain and Germany, Commodores prime markets, want something new!  The
1200 is going to be very popular, unless the Falcon wins the race (something i doubt)....

|> Am I making any sense?

Not to much, sorry :-)


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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Commodore, here's a clue
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:26:10 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

lozinski@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Lozinski) writes:
>Why doesn't Commodore release an Amiga 3500? 
>
>Basically, my idea of it is it having the new AGA chip set along with all of
>the custom chips in the 3000 excluding Agnus & Denise and without a built in
>C.P.U.

UGH.. Let the 3000 die.  It was a good computer in it's time, but now it iis
old, dated, and most importantly EXPENSIVE technology.  The 4000 is more
refined, cheaper to produce, cheaper to sell, and has newer technology.


Besides, what you just described.. it's a 4000!

>1) If the whole bus is gonna be 32-bit, why not make the hard drive device
>   32-bits also? (i.e., SCSI) Why not? I sure as heck don't want to buy a computer then have to buy a SCSI board PLUS the amount of data the Hard drive can 
>transfer will be twice as much. (I'd like to quote Tim Taylor {Home Improvement}  "We want a man's machine. We want more power! {grunt})

The 3000
's SCSI *IS* 32 bit, at least from the DMA controller to memory.  If you're
talking about IDE, this has been rehashed.. SCSI is expensive.  If you want a
cheap machine, you have to live with a few limitations, if you want a good
machine, you should pay for it (i.e. buy your own scsi card)

>
>2) How about putting Amber in an AGA machine? Sure we can create non-interlaced
>   screens, but that means I can't use the ones that are interlaced. I shouldn't
>   be limited to certain screens because others have a flicker. If I got these
>extra modes, I want to be able to use them, not watch an annoying flicker!

It's already been pointed out that Amber is a 12 bit chip.  It won't handle
the color resolution in the 400.

>
>3) Take what chip the C.P.U. is off the front panel. When i'm still using my
>   machine 5 years from now, it'll more than likely have a more advanced
>   C.P.U., and not the 040, 030, or whatever. C'mon guys, you can't make 
>   anything like that permanent. I'll give Commodore a pont for thinking of
>   putting the C.P.U. the way they have it. I like that idea.

Ever hear of including a sticker with accelerator?  C= did this with the 2620
and 2630 boards to make your 2000 say 2500.

>Also, (for Commodore) how about releasing UNIX for the new machines so I can 

Unix has to be updated to work with the 040.

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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: High-end Amiga as Mac replacement
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:38:37 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

stevep@wrq.com (Steve Poole) writes:

>I've been a Mac user for years. I'm getting close to a point where I'd
>like to upgrade my home system, and am thinking about the possibility of 
>an Amiga with Mac emulation, since I have ROMs. I used an Amiga 1000 a 
>fair amount a few years ago, but haven't really kept up with the Amiga 
>state of the art.

>So, I have some specific requirements and questions. Does Amiga still 
>do that cheesy interlaced video? Is 24/32 bit video fast? Does Amiga OS 
>enforce memory protection yet? Does the workbench support things like 
>drag/drop, aliases, and multiple views? Does Amiga know any networking 
>protocols like AppleTalk or NFS? Does anyone make LocalTalk hardware for 
>the Amiga so I can toss it onto a cheap Mac net?

interlaced video?  yes, if you want it.  no, if you don't want it.(you can
still do 640x512 without interlace)

a fast 24bit video?  mm... festible... but costly...

memory protection?  not really.  The Mac doesn't do much memory protection
either...

drag/drop? please define them.
aliases?  I think so... I forgot what it is called in WB 2.04

multiple views?  you mean connecting to several monitors?  I think you are
too used to Mac terminology...  no, you cant use multiple video the same
way you can with Macs... but there are better things you can do with 
multiple monitors/screens on the Amiga...

Network protocols? yes... if you need AppleTAlk, get Amax II+.


>As for Mac emulation, I've been following some of the Emplant squawking 
>over in c.s.a.e. Are there other emulators? Do they do color? Do they 
>really work?

the color version is... err... in the works.  Ask Jim Drew if you need
more info... =)

>Here's the minimal hardware specs I'm looking for:

>25 MHz 68040, 32 megs RAM, 1280 x 1024 x 32 bit video, 16" monitor (NO
>interlaced video!), Mac emulation with a ROM *DUMP*.


32bit video?  well... good luck... (are you sure you arent looking for 
a high-end SGI mini-computer? ;)

You might want to look into buying an Amiga 3000+040+24bit graphics card+AmaxII+
works like a charm... =)

All your Mac periperhals (I assume you have a Mac+/SE type of computer)
should work fine on that configuration.

>Is a system like this available? How about good LISP and C++ environments?

Not sure about these.  There are some around... but not very cheap.  You can
always use the Mac versions, you know... :)

>Well, that's a bunch of questions. I'd appreciate any insights,
>especially from software pros with Mac experience.  Thanks!
>  - Steve

good luck and welcome to the family. :)

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Top 10 reasons why ...
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 23:28:46 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story) writes:

> Please tell us... What is the price of the Falcon?  Is it #399? Is it $600?..
> how much is it?  You have NO facts to back up your main assertion.

In a message from Atari Germany they mention the price to be between 
2300 and 3500 german marks. Giving a price between 1300 and 2000 US 
dollars. That don't sound *too* competative with the A1200 I think...


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From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PIRACY
Keywords: semprini, spam, ni, naughty bits
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:39:12 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov16.194025.13177@news.uit.no>, espensk@stud.cs.uit.no (Espen Skoglund) writes:
 > Hey, who would want to buy a computer if he/she had to spend $200 for every
 > program they wanted to purchase? I wouldn't.

Then why did you buy a computer?

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 >  \---------------------------------------------------------------------------/

-Eyvind

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: New topic of the week - Is ECS dead?
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:02:09 GMT

abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
>kontos@clipper.ingr.com (Thorne Kontos) writes:
>>While I ponder where I am going to come up with the cash for a new
>>computer, I ask myself repeated if I should sink another dime into
>>my A2000. What with the prices of the A3000 dropping like a 
>>proverbial rock, the only real upgrade for my A2000 is a video toaster
>>or DCTV. 
>
>the A2000 is still very expandible.  (You may add an 040 and 24bit graphics
>card *now* if you have the money).  The only thing which the 2000 really
>lacks is Zorro 3 bus.  However, most cards aren't built for Z3 anyways...

You may be able to beat Zorro III performance on the A2000.  Get a GVP
accelerator with 32-bit memory, 32-bit SCSI, and a 32-bit bus, then add the
EGS board.  It takes some cash though...

-- Gerald
From: egau0010@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Call for reviews of A4000 (Like it? Hate it?)
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:08:35 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Would anybody like to give a review of what the A4000 is like after a 
couple of week's use? Should be enough time for all the design howlers 
to come out ;-)

So:

What's it like to use? Was it right to buy one? Is there enough RAM/HD/ 
general power to get stuff done? What's AGA like? Etc...

Don't bother answering each question individually if you don't want to, 
I'm just asking for a (personal) opinion. This is c.s.a.advocacy, go 
crazy.

		Thanks in advance,

				James

PS Post here or mail, I'm easy. I'll summarize if so desired.
Mail preferred address : jwalker@ac.dal.ca
From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Completely unrelated to: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:15:18 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

I want virtual memory -- usually the memory I have on the machine is
sufficient for what I'm doing.  Paying a bundle for adding lots of RAM that
I have a need for once or twice a month is NOT as economical as using say
20 MB of hard drive as swap space and the software app program GIGAMEM. 
But, with an '020, no can do!  Pfeh!  I'm quite willing to take the speed
performance hit for apps that I only infrequently outrun the available RAM
on-board for -- and I HAVE run out of memory on occasion, attempting to do
things like autotrace.  There's software I haven't bothered to get because
this machine lacks the requisite performance and memory.  But, if I got to
a 32 bit system, I WANT VM!!!!  There are times when I want to manipulate a
LOT of data -- such as doing digitizing, and I don't want to have to
install 20 MB of ram for something done once or twice a month! 


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From: csmith@terapin.com (Colin Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Commodore, here's a clue
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:14:46 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <BxMIsH.I8G@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, lozinski@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David
Lozinski) writes:
>Why doesn't Commodore release an Amiga 3500? 
>
>Basically, my idea of it is it having the new AGA chip set along with all of
>the custom chips in the 3000 excluding Agnus & Denise and without a built in
>C.P.U.
>
>There are several reasons for my view of this:
>
>1) If the whole bus is gonna be 32-bit, why not make the hard drive device
>   32-bits also? (i.e., SCSI) Why not? I sure as heck don't want to buy a
comput
>er then have to buy a SCSI board PLUS the amount of data the Hard drive can 
>transfer will be twice as much. (I'd like to quote Tim Taylor {Home
Improvement}
>  "We want a man's machine. We want more power! {grunt})
>
>2) How about putting Amber in an AGA machine? Sure we can create
non-interlaced
>   screens, but that means I can't use the ones that are interlaced. I
shouldn't
>
>   be limited to certain screens because others have a flicker. If I got these
>extra modes, I want to be able to use them, not watch an annoying flicker!
>
>3) Take what chip the C.P.U. is off the front panel. When i'm still using my
>   machine 5 years from now, it'll more than likely have a more advanced
>   C.P.U., and not the 040, 030, or whatever. C'mon guys, you can't make 
>   anything like that permanent. I'll give Commodore a pont for thinking of
>   putting the C.P.U. the way they have it. I like that idea.
>
>These comments, criticsms, & complaints are of my own view. 
>I encourage comments and reaction, and would like to see some, especially from
>Commodore (Oh boy!). However, there's no reason to get nasty about it, though.
>
>Also, (for Commodore) how about releasing UNIX for the new machines so I can 
>use it here at Virginia Tech?
>
>-lozinski@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
>
>"If I wanted to listen to an ASSHOLE, I would've farted!"
well, I heard of An '030' version of the 4000. So far, just a Rumor, but If it
is true, It might just fit into my budjet! I love your Idea of an A3500. The
only Advantage of a built in CPU is that when you expand to a faster one, You
may expierence some compatability probs and you can always fall back to the
slower cpu. But what Commodore did with the 4000 and it's Cpu was admirible.
They made it easier to expand to a faster '040' or mabye an '060' when it comes
out. Thoughts?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Pihl)
Subject: Re:   Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an
Reply-To: etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:30:22 GMT

In article 02vr@rkamiga.UUCP, root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:

> >* A PC is a PC even if it uses single of multiple user UNIX like SCO 
> >  Xenix, Interactive IX and so on.
> 
> Then why is a 486/33 running UNIX and X11 faster than a SUN IPX?

Who said that? How was the machines configurated? Were both running
in a network?

> --
> Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.
> 
> 		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root
> 
________________________________________
/ Tomas Pihl
/ ELLEMTEL Telecom Systems Lab, Sweden
/ email:   etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: HEIDI'S DECISION. Was: Oh My God, help my friend not buy an IBM
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:13:17 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:


>By the way, what in the hel IS Amax, specifically?  Is it a card? Software?

Amax I and II are nothing more than a piece of software, actually.
It comes with an adaptor which allows you to plug in Mac+ roms (due to
legal issues).  It also allows you to hook Mac floppies directly onto 
the Amiga... that's all there is to it.  Really, nothing more than a 
piece of software.

Amax II+ is a different story... (not entirely different, but different
enough)  Amax II+ is an internal card which gives you Localtalk,  serial
port, etc.

The emulation, however, is still done by software.

>-- 
>Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
>"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
>lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
>                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: rge@helix.nih.gov (roger erickson)
Subject: Summer Intern
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:10:50 GMT

Attention Amiga fans.  I am interested in using an Amiga in a project here 
at the NIMH and would like to solicit applications from anyone interested 
in a Summer Internship (lasting 3 months, June-Aug).  The project is to 
use an A3000 with a DMI Resolver board to produce real-time motion 
animations for psychophysical displays (e.g., a subject looks at a screen, 
views a display, and pushes a button when the desired percept is 
discriminated).  I need someone familiar with the Amiga who would like to 
work on this, and who could fit it into their normal school or training 
program (I have to justify why it would be a valuable experience for the 
Intern).  

	If interested, Email rge@helix.nih.gov

		roger
From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Future Entertainment Show, London
Distribution: world
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:47:51 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

I saw Kodak demo'ing PhotoCD discs at THREE separate tradeshows (Macworld,
an Imaging exposition in New York City, and I forget the third) before
finally seeing a live Kodak PhotoCD player at a CD-ROM exposition some
weeks ago.  At the other shows, Kodak was using a Mac with a Mac single
session CD-ROM drive.  The FIRST session of a PhotoCD can be read by a
standard CD-ROM drive -- however, a  single session CD-ROM drive doesn't
have the firmware to read/be aware of the additional file system
information written in the second and subsequent recording sessions.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: lebeld@JSP.UMontreal.CA (David Lebel)
Subject: Re: OS/2 .MOD player! Wheee!
Organization: Universite de Montreal -- Montreal, PQ, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:53:13 GMT

In article <BxMy7H.LxM@starnine.com> mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas) writes:

>AmigaDOS makes it extremely easy for programs to do such things
>since you can be waiting on several message ports for a multitude
>of events at once.
>
>Even in earlier versions of the OS... since day 1, actually.

	Sorry to bump in, but you cannot include waiting-on-multiple-ports
thing into thread and process debate. Your program will consist of a single
thread, no matter hard you try, you will not be able to do SIMULTANEOUSLY
other things in the background.

-- 
   /            David Lebel | " I  don't  want  to  start  any   blasphemous |
  /  Universite de Montreal | rumours, but I  think  that  God's  got a sick |
 /  lebeld@jsp.umontreal.ca | sense  of humour  and  when  I  die, I  expect |
/ (514) 343-6532 ext. 44644 | to find Him laughing. "         - Depeche Mode |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jerry@mickey (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:14:57 GMT
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Jeffrey Grimmett 9999 (jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com) wrote:
: 
: Hm, well, I can get "more different things" done on my 020 at home than I can
: on a i486 under winders or OS/2 or Unix.  Why do you think that is?
: 

Because you're not in touch with reality, esp. about OS/2 and Unix?

:
: Jeff Grimmett [SuperBitMap BBS]          * fido!1:202/1401.0 [619-460-7290]
:

Jerry J. Shekhel				jerry@msi.com
Spending a week working in the UK!
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Falcon Spec's [per Comdex handouts]
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:55:17 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
[In regards to the Atari Falcon...]

>[1] this apparently only pertains to the processor, other sources describe
>	a 24-bit address bus and 16-bit processor bus.

Well... I hope Atari realises that Apple is about to drop the 16bit path
Macs... (I heard the LC-III is coming out... and it is supposed to be
a IIci in a LC-II case).  Well... then... I am not sure about the Color Classic.

>[2] most folks would consider this VGA not super-VGA

Actually, most people (software developers, at least) consider 640x480x256
as "Super VGA."  (regular VGA as we all  know only goes up to 640x480x16 or
320x200x256).  Most games that support "SVGA" usually go up to 640x480x256.

>[3] "assisted" by the BLiTTER(tm)?
no comment...

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu