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From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Project Apple Storm
Date: 12 Dec 92 14:10:14 GMT
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

: Hey Luny, I've been hoping someone would give me a straight line like this:
: 
: The new Resource-Central magazine is called 'Fishhead's Children', which is
: basically an inside joke for all us long-term Apple II'ers. Personally, I
: think that it's only gonna take a few nanoseconds for the magazine to be
: known as    'FID's Kids'    !    B-)
: 
: BTW, for those not subscibing to A2-Central who have not heard about this
: new magazine, it's aim is to provide a real-world bridge for all the people
: who have to work with more than one machine. Say PC's and Mac's at work,
: and Apple II's at home. Or vice-versa. It probably will expect people to
: know 'something' about one computer, but not about others.
: 
Hey, I was wondering, is this new Fishhead magazine going to be as *small* as
A2-Central? A2-Central is great and all, but it's real small, and really
looks more of a user group type newsletter.. (Cheap paper, etc)


I'm not ragging on it, Just wondering if the new one would be like this one.
: 
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From: chiu@alumni.berkeley.edu (David Chiu)
Subject: Re: Turbo IDE Card description
Summary: Dual ROM
Originator: chiu@alumni
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:07:48 GMT

In article <behrenss.724116241@hphalle6> behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:
>stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) writes:

>>In article <1992Dec11.134016.8827@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:
>>>The ROM on the card is highly optimized for maximum throughput, using 65816
>>>commands in the GS version. You can order both ROMs (if I recall correctly,
>>>a ROM costs $10), so if you want to swap machines (which you don't do every
>>>day normally, anyway ;), you just exchange the ROM and that's it.
>>	Although, in theory, you should be able to use the //e version
>>in both machines.  That way, you wouldn't have to swap ROM chips.

>True. But then, on the GS, you'd probably have less speed under P8. Oh well :)

Wouldn't it be easier to just use a larger capacity ROM chip and select
//e | //gs using a single jumper?

>Soenke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Zip Wide-Narrow sockets
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:09:13 GMT

I was wanting to know if I could go to a Radio Shack and get a "Socket Adaptor"
of some sort that would allow me to put my SRAMs into a Socket Adaptor, or the
narrow socket, and put the narrow socket into the wide socket.  My objective,
is trying to get my Cache in without soldering.  I don't want to ruin my Zip.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: pbauer@athena.mit.edu (Paul H Bauer)
Subject: Re: Zoom modems/good or bad?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:25:03 GMT

In article <168BADA87.ALEFF@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu> ALEFF@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
> Has anyone heard anything, good or bad, about the Zoom v.32 bis modem?  I
> believe it's the VXV32bis (data only), or something like that.  Please email.

I to am thinking of buying one of these and would like info from anyone
who has had experience with the ZOOM VFX or VX 32 bis modems 14400 baud
externals FAX and no fax versions. It might be worth posting as these are the
lowest priced 14400 modems I've seen.

	pbauer@athena.mit.edu
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: where do I get Operating systems updates?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:10:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


You should be able to get it from the On-line services as they are the
only ones as far as know can give it out. You can also try users groups
as well as the dealers. Bring the current disk as that seems to be the only
way to get a copy of the latest system, at least that is what the
dealer here told me so I brought mine to him and copied it over my old
one. Hope this helps. Maybe someone else has some more places.
.
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From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: APPLE ][ TYPING PROGRAM
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:47:52 GMT

In article <5602.61.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp> paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst)  writes:
>>From: todd@zbt.sw.stratus.com (Todd Joseph)
>>Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
>>Subject: Apple ][ typing program
>>Keywords: Apple ][, typing
>>Message-ID: <1ggmkhINNgqi@transfer.stratus.com>
>>Date: 14 Dec 92 01:05:21 GMT
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm looking for a good typing program for an Apple ][.  I'd like to
>>get shareware, but I'm willing to buy one if someone knows a good one.
>>Thanks for any help.
>>
>>-Todd
>
>   The only real live typing program that I know of is Mavis Beacon
>Teaches Typing.  It came out in 1987 or 1988 or sometime back in the
>Golden Ages when people actually released IIGS software.  You could
>check Quality Computers, since they seem to stock up on out-of-print
>IIGS software.
>
>Paul Parkhurst
>
>paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.UUCP
>                                   


Actually, there's a relatively recent freeware typing tutor that is
stupendous. Written by Charles Hartley, the name of this program is Computer
Keyboarding. It works with IIe, IIc or IIGS systems.

Before anyone asks me to upload it...I only have the original release. I
think there have been 3 or 4 revisions to it, so I'm not up to date. Mr
Hartley has uploaded Computer Keyboarding to GEnie's A2 area...

It really is an excellent program, and the pricing can't be beat.

Joe Kohn
From: voss@i40s16.ira.uka.de (Stefan Voss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: What's foundation? (Was Re: choosing sides)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 09:15:20 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: i40s16.ira.uka.de

In article <1992Dec13.125233.4568@memstvx1.memst.edu>, ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
|> [some stuff deleted]
|> Hiya,
|> 	What's "foundation"?  [some stuff deleted again]

Foundation is a resource editor for the Apple IIGS. 

|> 
|> -Tai

Stefan Voss
(voss@ira.uka.de)
From: beta@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Scott Sidley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Zoom modems/good or bad?
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:13:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue Dec 15 92 at 17:25:30 (EST)


ALEFF:

I'm using a Zoom v.32bis FAX modem now.

its ok, except that when talking to the Supra on noisy lines the modems will
not connect, they drop carrier if you attempt a V.32bis connection.  (you have
to use straight V.32 on noisy lines if you want a connection)

and sometimes it refuses to connect how YOU want (example, dialing using N0
mode should allow you to setup a V.32 connection while talking to the modem at
38400 and not using COMPRESSION, however the modem likes to insist you drop to
9600 bps) I usually just reset it and it listens to me.

I have had no problems using over longdistance lines to USR's I get V.32bis
connects easily.

if you have a GS and you are not using flow control you do have to program
EVERYTHING related to the flow control pins since the Zoom wont talk unless
ALL of the flow control lines are set to IGNORE.  

for about $250 its a great V.32 and good V.32bis modem, plus it does do FAX.

Scott Sidley --  root@gnh-tap, beta@gnh-starport, beta@gnh-cathouse
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 09:46:57 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Paul Benson, rSounder
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents my views, not necessarily IBM's.
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1992Dec12.034646.21002@actrix.gen.nz>

In <1992Dec12.034646.21002@actrix.gen.nz> David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <19921210.052717.563@almaden.ibm.com> Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson) writes:
>> I have not changed any of the code for the clear zero option.  It's basically
>> a 0->$80 conversion, making sure I don't go all the way to the end.
>
>$00 to $80?  Are you sure about that?  That would introduce a serious

That post was supposed to be personal email, so I guess I just globally
broadcast my memory capability ;).  You are correct, the conversion is
$00->$01.  Just FYI, the bug was not a true bug in rSounder.  It just
so happened that the sound being converted was a GS sound which happened
to have about 100 zeroes at the end of it.  rSounder converted the first
'99' zeroes to ones and introduced a click.  Since this would have been
correct for a Mac sound it did what it is supposed to do.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
From: nparker@cie.uoregon.edu (Neil Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: bsc (was Re: MODifier)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 09:20:05 GMT
Organization: The Universal Society for the Prevention of Reality
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu

In article <1gedv4INNo42@gap.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P.
Whitesel) writes:
>irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>
>>BSC is a shell utility by Neil Parker.  Due to a conflict with the libraries
>>it doesn't compile under DEC RISC Ultrix 4.1 or 4.2.  Neil will hopefully fix
>>this (he's looking into it).  
>
>Has he tried removing the "b" mode letter from fopen() ? Ultrix chokes on it.

The error message That Ian Guy sent me seems to indicate there's a conflict
with the access() system call, not the "b" in the fopen().  In fact, if
you're getting the "b" at all under UNIX, then you've got the wrong options
turned on in the Makefile.  The "b" should only be appearing under VMS or
if the -DFOPEN_NEEDS_B flag appears in the Makefile (which should NEVER be
the case under UNIX)...

...Ack.  Another possibility just occurred to me.  Since Ultrix, like VMS,
comes from DEC...er...does somebody out there know whether the Ultrix C
preprocessor defines the symbol "vms"?  If so, is there some other symbol
(like "ULTRIX" or "ultrix" or some such thing) that it also defines, so I
can check for Ultrix and explicitly #undef vms?

(*sigh*  If only I had an Ultrix machine around here somewhere to check
this stuff on...)

              - Neil Parker

P.S.  Moral:  UNIX isn't nearly as portable as it pretends to be.
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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: OpenResourceFile problem...bug?
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:59:48 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <jmk3.724405703@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell) writes:
>I am creating a resource file with CreateResourceFile. It has normal access:
>$C3. This works fine.
> 
>I use OpenResourceFile to open it. If I ask for only write access (2), I get
>error $4E, access not allowed. If I ask for read and write (3), no problem.
>[...] 

It's working as designed...even though *you* don't want to read any resources
from the file, the Resource Manager still needs to read the resource map from
the fork when you open the file (CreateResourceFile wrote the map there).

Asking for write-only on OpenResourceFile just isn't useful.
-- 
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Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple II Networks
From: jon@qed.cts.com (Jonathan Fether)
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:02:46 GMT
Organization: The QED BBS, Lakewood CA

Has anyone heard of A2 networks other than Internet, TEAM-NET, 
Future-Net, and Ogg-Net? Those are the only networks I have heard of 
(Other than the $$$ services). That is, Apple II nets. I live in Southern 
California and want to know.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Subject: Re: Project Apple Storm
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:52:59 GMT

Lunatic Johnathan Bruce E'Sex writes

>     ]-[mm, I don't remember seeing _YOU_ at the "Project Apple Storm"
>  meeting -- how do you know that those numbers are from _dealerships_?
>     ___
>      |hey said that Apple sold seven Apple IIgses that month, and an
>  equal number of Apple IIes.  They did NOT specifically say that
>  Apple _dealerships_ sold seven of each, nor did they even mention
>  educational purchases.
>  

	Ok, I was wrong. I looked at the article again, and it said 14's apple  
II's across nationwide. It doesn't not mention through what channels these  
sales are though. _However_ the article does point out that //e sales are  
stronger than the //gs, so it would seem that the eduacational purchases are  
missing. Thanks for correcting me though. :)

| Hal Bouma                            | Send mail to: HBouma@Macalstr.edu    |
| Macalester College, St. Paul, MN.    | and           HBouma@Macalstr.Bitnet |
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From: cranem@edsi.plexus.COM (Mike Crane)
Subject: Re: Floptical instead of SuperDrive?
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 20:41:21 GMT

philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>Doesn't the Floptical use special 3.5" floppies? That is, can you use an 
>ordinary floppy with one and transfer stuff from a Mac (on a 1.44meg floppy)?
>Is the floptical faster than a floppy drive?

Yes, it does, but *only* to get the ~20MB format.  They use standard HD
floppies for 1.44meg and standard DD floppies for 720K.  
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Mike Crane     GEnie: M.CRANE   America Online: MIKE566
Internet: cranem@edsi.plexus.com, cranem@csystems.appleton.mil.wi.us,
          Michael_Crane@ntc.com, mike566@aol.com
"Who needs drugs...we've got UNIX!" - Me
From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:15:29 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <UJMURPHY.92Dec13150640@queen.mcs.Drexel.edu>, ujmurphy@mcs.Drexel.edu (Jim Murphy) writes:
>>> dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:
> with the sole purpose of working on IIgs System Software. I certainly can't
> speak in specifics as to what I will be doing, but one could assume that it
> would indeed be enhancements to GS System Software. :-)

	Hmm... can we make up a wish list?? :)

>>>The Apple IIgs will be dead by 1993,...

	Wasn't something similar said about the Apple II about oh, ten years
ago?  (And I was just wee lad at that time... :))  Besides, why the great
desire to have a "living" computer?  Didn't you watch Terminator? :) :)
	Ciao.

-Tai
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Subject: Re: Printing to an AppleLaserWriter LS
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:21:33 GMT
Organization: Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2

In article <199212151758.AA15763@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu>,
geh2@cornell.edu (Gail Honness) wrote:
> 
> The only problem I see
> is getting the required software the Apple IIgs so that it can print to a
> LaserWriter.  In the Mac environment you must have the print drivers
> installed in the "System Folder" ,  does the Apple IIgs require special
> printer drivers?  If so, where could we obtain a copy?  If not, what does
> one have to do to print on the LaserWriter?
> 

There are no printer drivers for any Apple II application for the
LaserWriter LS, including any ProDOS 8 application and the regular
IIgs printer driver-type thing.  They'd be about 3 times harder than
the StyleWriter driver to write, and I wouldn't expect them anytime
soon.

(This is why the LS material does not say the printer is compatible
with the Apple II in any way, shape or form.)

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Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
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From: tribby@hpindda.cup.hp.com (David Tribby)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:25:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Need SynthLab File Formats
Organization: HP Info Networks Div/Cupertino CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2

jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell) wrote...
> I could not find any information about MIDIsynth or synthLAB on
> the System 6 GM CD.
> 
> I think Matt said there would be a ftn.

Thanks for looking on the CD Jay for the documentation (thanks also to 
Steve Chiang). Since software that uses SynthLAB files has been written 
by non-Apple folks, I figured the information must exist *somewhere*!

With the Apple II team focused on 6.0.1, I expect it will be a whlie
before the next batch of File Type Notes will be distributed (and even
longer before they will make it to the ftp system). If anyone comes
across the information in the meantime, please forward it to me.

-- Dave

Dave Tribby            Internet: tribby@cup.hp.com   GEnie: D.TRIBBY
Hewlett-Packard Information Networks Division, Cupertino, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lurch@eskimo.com (Erik Kloeppel)
Subject: Re: Info AOL
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:09:38 GMT

fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:

>GEnie was pretty cool, but the only ( and a major! ) complain I have is the
>system's speed.  It's slow as hell!!  Why?

I don't know for certain, but I'd be willing to bet that in part it's because you are not (so I'm told) dealing with ONE machine, but a network of them.

on the other hand, if you can telenet, there is no "prime time" rate for Delphi if you telenet in during the day (In fact, according to management, that's what they PREFER).  Of course, this does mean you'll need a Delphi account (as low as $1/hr)


Thus ends my blatant plug...

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From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MODifier
Date: 13 Dec 92 05:16:52 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1gedv4INNo42@gap.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu 
(Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>
>>QuadraScope is part of MODZap 0.85, not a separate program.  The jukebox in
>>MZ is controllable to some extent with the keyboard.  RTFM.
>
>What manual? Especially since it's not even released yet.

I think he meant that the jukebox is described in the manual of the latest
version of MZ.  Ie, the one that -is- released.

>Todd Whitesel
>toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
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From: foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: //e rev-A upgrade
Keywords: //e upgrade
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:15:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I had posted a reply to someone the other day in which I added a general
question about what Apple's current upgrade policy is on the rev-A (no
DHGR) motherboard.  I received a reply from one person who said they thought
Apple was still offering a free upgrade, but I'd like to know for sure.  
Dave?  Matt?  You reading this?  You're our resident Apple gurus, so what's 
Apple's status on this.  (Heck, this might be in the FAQ, but I don't recall
such..)

On another note, someone posted about a guy who sells refurbished GS systems
for decent prices (disk drives for $100 each, etc).  Unfortunately I can't 
find the @#$% screen dump I made of that post.  Would some kind soul please
refresh my memory.  Thanx.

Michael Foegelle



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From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: DOS 3.3 LAUNCHER
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:21:58 GMT


Sorry, all, for the delay, but I've just uploaded the latest version of John
MacLean's DOS 3.3 Launcher to c.b.a2.

Enjoy it...and don't forget to pay your shareware fee.

Joe Kohn
From: VBCSC038@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Codes for Tymnet or Telenet
Date: 12 Dec 1992 20:17:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I haven't gotten any replies.. when I do, I'll email them to u..



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: GS<>IRC
Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:01:15 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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	Aha!! Now I understand, I'll try that address and see whats up on
#AppleIIGS.  Thanks to  Richard and the others who replied!!!

                              

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