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From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
Subject: Re: Exciters, Enhancers, and Maximizers - Oh My!
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:08:37 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

In article <queXVB1w165w@midiline.la.ca.us> trog@midiline.la.ca.us (Ralph Stempel) writes:
>glennd@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Glenn Deardorff GDP) writes:
>
>> Lets say my interest is in enhancing, er... maximizing Clarity and
>> Definition of my mix (I'm not looking for Brilliance, per se).  I
>> know about the tricks of trying to achieve same by providing individual
>> reverb/effects and/or frequency ranges to the tracks.  What I want to know is
>> which of the BBE line (or equivalent) of "aural improvers" would be best
>> for strictly maximizing clarity of the mix. Comments welcome.
>> 
>   What you most likely want is a BBE 422A. The 422A is a stereo box that 
>deals with unbalanced input/output. 
>   These things sound very good on a wide variety of program material. 
>Almost everything I run through one sounds better than the original 
>sound.

The BBE is the best box I've ever heard.  I used to detest what Aphex
Aural Exciters did to sound and assumed every brand of 'aural enhancer'
would be a variation on that same icky sound.

NOT so with the BBE line. Without going into details, I learned electronically
what the BBE did differently than the APHEX, and I'm not totally surprised
at the great sound.

I believe all the BBE Sonic Maximizers do the same thing, but they come
in different configurations: Balanced, Unbalanced, Mono, Stereo.  Does
anybody out there know if BBE has improved their design since 1989? (that's
when I bought mine)

ferenc
From: gbutulis@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Can a "regular" receiver be used for a small studio?
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:48:43 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <BzMCCK.KqF@mach1.wlu.ca>, irobert4@mach1.wlu.ca (ian robertson U) writes:
>       I notice that all of you so far have hooked your synths up to mixers
> and then to your amps. I don't have a mixer and am going to be picking up a
> used synth (Kawai K1][ or a K4). Is it fine for me to patch the outputs from
> the synth dierctly to one of the auxillary inputs of my Denon receiver?
> Years ago when I had another synth (and a cheesy ghetto blaster) I tried
> running the signal that way, and everything was quiet and noisy. 
>       Thanks
>   -- Ian
> irobert4@mach1.wlu.ca
> 

     Yes.  The levels on the synth out should be the same expected by the
aux in on your receiver.  The only reason you should get noise is from the
Denon unit or the patch cords (if they are not if good quality).  The reason
for the use of submixing (via mixer or Tascam) is so that 4 or more ins may
be fed to the two aux inputs of the receiver (ie, I have several keyboards,
each running into one of the inputs of the Tascam, then mixed down to the
final two lines to the receiver).

-Garrett

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: K5 AutoAssigner,James Chandler
Summary: help!
Keywords: Kawai K5
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 27 DEC 92 09:30:12    


I recently obtained a program for the Kawai K5 and the Atari ST called "K5
AutoAssigner".  It was written in 1989 by a fellow named James Chandler, Jr.
and runs under Atari BASIC.  There were no docs so it is unclear what it
actually does.  I *think* it is some sort of random patch generator. There
seems to be some patches associated with it on the disk but I can't figure out
how it is supposed to work.  If anyone knows anything about this program, let
me know by E-mail.

I'm also interested in corresponding with other K5 users, as I'm a newbie with
this machine and need some help understanding how to use additive synthesis. 


					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth,alt.rave,aus.music,rec.music.industrial
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: AUS/Melb musicians mailing group, anyone?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:25:18 GMT


Hi Pepl, this should only be going to Australian people, so if you're
reading it's time to quit if you're not here :) Please excuse the cross
posting,  but with the .synth split and the types of music that I'm
attempting to contact required it...

I'd like to start a mailing group for people in Australia, particularly
Melbourne. Synth musicians whose tastes and styles match those of the
groups in the distribution. The group would be a place for us to meet
prospective collaborators or band partners, access production skills,
people with equipment for sale, people with connections in the industry, etc.
We may be able to organize joint releases or demo tapes. The concept of
synergy applies here, and also "you scratch my back, etc...".

Apart from the above, we could also swap demo tapes, give criticism
(constructive of course!) and suggestions and perhaps help with other
peoples' music. My eventual goal would be a loose-knit collective of
local net musicians and their non-net friends who would be willing to
help each other, work together, etc for the benefit of all involved...
People from other states and cities would be welcome in the net forum,
and when visiting Melbourne would have people they could meet up with
or even work with over short periods or whatever.

If anyone's interested in joining, please email me at
pet@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au. I don't really want letters expounding
reasons why this list is a BAD idea, so if you're not interested
please don't email... If you do know someone who might be interested
but who doesn't read these groups, would you please bounce
a copy of this post to them? Thanks very much...


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From: Randomizer@cup.portal.com (Aron Fingers Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: *** Mac II + MIDI ***
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 23:52:37 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

This is posted for a friend.  Please _do not_ reply to this account.
Call the number below for inquiries.
 
!!!MAC & MIDI 4 Sale!!!!
Mac II CPU w/8 Meg RAM no HD $1000
Opcode Studio+ 2 MIDI Interface $75
Emu Procussion Drum Module $525
Peavy SP Sample Playback Module w/SCSI 8 Meg RAM $1100
Panasonic SV-250 Portable DAT w/XLR inputs $500
Roland 8x8 MIDI Patchbay $125
Anvil 10 Space Rack Black $125
 
Keith 415-665-7106 (evenings)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music
From: ray@herahera.cc.bellcore.com (klos,raymond l)
Subject: Hammond B3
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 01:39:33 GMT
Followup-To: ]poster

Hammond B3 with Leslie, strings keyboard and synthesizer
keyboard, all for $295 plus shipping?  Almost!
You can get that B3/Leslie sound and also have a synth and
strings thrown in. What I am talking about is a used Yamaha SK15
keyboard in mint condition. It has loads of slider controls
to vary realtime parameters. None of the new-fangled complicated
"one-button-does-all" digital nightmares. It has 3 sound
sections:

B3 ORGAN SECTION  
----------------
* 16'  8'  5 1/3'  4'  &  2'  drawbars (slider)
* percussion drawbar(slider)
* key click
* Leslie off/on/slow/fast. This effect speeds up and slows down
  to simulate the speaker rotor. Effects units on the market
  today that have this capability cost more than this keyboard!
* Ensemble/chorus effect on/off.
* Sustain slider

STRINGS SECTION
---------------
* 16'  &  8'  sliders
* Attack switch
* Leslie, Ensemble/chorus and sustain same as for B3.

SYNTHESIZER SECTION
-------------------
* 8 slider controls (Volume, Cut Off Freq, Resonance, EG Depth,
  Attack Time, Decay Time, Sustain Level, Release Time)
* Leslie, Ensemble/chorus and sustain same as for B3.

VIBRATO SECTION
---------------
* This section effects all 3 sections. It has Delay, Speed and
  Depth slide controls.

NOTES: The keyboard has 4 octaves with fullsize keys. All 3 sections
can be used simultaneously. The size is 32" x 14" x 6".
Email or call me at work (201) 829-4306 EST 9-4 or home at
(201) 985-4376.
From: sol@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (larry carrier)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: DAT's,cheapest full sized, vol sensitive keys?
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:15:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I see here in a local paper, an IOWA STRASSER Dat Walkman for $500.00...anyone
know of the brand?...what are used portable Dats going for now?...what's my bestbet <for the best price..my budget's very limited>?.

I'm also looking for the least expensive MIDI controller with full sized keys
and volocity sensitivity..any suggestions?...is the K1 the best way to go <for
like, $450?>...

I"d like to get an at least 1/2way useable setup here, for around $1200 <my
budget for the project>...was hoping to get a Dat<or SVHS w/PCM>, a good
controller, and maybe a Sound Canvas...any suggestions on a better setup?...

Thanks!.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: lawrence.lougheed@rose.com (lawrence lougheed)
Subject: WinCake Version
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:50:21 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 12-31-92 16:46
Is the latest version of Cakewalk for Windows, version 1.03?  Thanks.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Subject: Re: Where does MTP hide the cable info?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:16:04 +0000

>According to the Mac Music & Sound Bible, this information is included
>in an "unused" part of the midi spec but offers no further details.

That's Bibles for you.

As far as I recall, it's F5 followed by cable number (or 127 for all cables
I think). There's also a way to turn the cablising mode off (F5 00?).

>I'd also be interested to find out if this routing data would work when
>input thru one of the eight midi-in ports, as opposed to the computer or
>network ports.

I very much doubt it. Also, the network port is rather weird and doesn't
always work in the same way as the Mac port, so I wouldn't assume that this
would work as expected. If you want to do smart routing via one of the
MTP's MIDI sockets, your best bet is to do it in the Mac using something
like Opcode MAX and OMS (which is what I use).

                      Nick Rothwell  |  "Say, how many contemporary dancers
   CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |     are there in this bar?"
        cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |  "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens
        cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |     and divide by two..."

From: Julie.Hayne@p941.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Hayne)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Korg P3 Piano Module For Sale
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 19:11:11 -0500

  MP> Can anyone comment (quickly - I want to get it) on the tonal quality
  MP> of the P3's piano sound?
 
Most people find the EMU Proformance or Proformance Plus to have a more
realistic piano sound than the P3, at a roughly comparable price.  The only
knock on the Proformance is than the decay of the sounds in somewhat short,
though reverb helps to cover this.

Hope this helps some.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: idealord@dorsai.com (Jeff Harrington)
Subject: Re: SY99/77/85/55/33 Mailing List - How do we get it off the ground?
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy, New York's Computer Consulate. +1.718.729.5018
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:26:50 GMT

scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:

> In article <1992Dec18.153207.11604@stc.nato.int> koelman@stc.nato.int writes:
> >In article <2807363874@roo> news@parc.xerox.com writes:
> >> > SY99/77/85/55/33 Mailing List - How do we get it off the ground?
> >> I agree too, but let's not exclude the SY35 & SY22!  Then it will be a 
> >> complete Yamaha SYxx mailing list.
> >> 
> >
> >I see 3 communities however:
> >
> >a) full AFM and AWM2 - SY77, TG77, SY99
> >b) AWM2 only - SY55, TG55, SY85
> >c) 'limited' FM and AWM with vector stuff - SY22, TG33, SY35
> >
> >this view maybe 'synthesis' biased. Would 3 lists be better?
> 
> Why don't we include the Korg Wavestation while we're at it?  But seriously,
> three lists would be a minimum.  Even SY77 and SY99 owners will sometimes
> fail to communicate.  Also, the TG77 is essentially an SY77 -  but wait - 
> it has completely different factory presets.  The 55/85 have the same
> AWM voice architecture as the 77/99 but does the 85 have the same
> ROM samples as the 99?  The vector people are in their own little world.  
> What would SY99 users and SY35 users possibly have to share with each other?
> Yes, this definitely needs to be broken down into separate lists.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Scott Amspoker                       |    
> Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
>                                      |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
> scott@bbx.basis.com                  |

 
Yup, let's ghettoize ourselves.  I don't have enough room in my mail box 
for the synths which aren't compatible with mine :-).
 

Jeff Harrington      
IdEAL ORDER               
idealord@dorsai.com
From: mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam MIROWSKI)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: SY99/77/85/55/33 Mailing List - How do we get it off the ground?
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:23:28 GMT
Organization: Chorus systemes, Paris, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
: >
: >I see 3 communities however:
: >
: >a) full AFM and AWM2 - SY77, TG77, SY99
: >b) AWM2 only - SY55, TG55, SY85
: >c) 'limited' FM and AWM with vector stuff - SY22, TG33, SY35
: 
: Why don't we include the Korg Wavestation while we're at it?  But seriously,
: three lists would be a minimum.  Even SY77 and SY99 owners will sometimes
: fail to communicate.  Also, the TG77 is essentially an SY77 -  but wait - 
: it has completely different factory presets.  The 55/85 have the same
: AWM voice architecture as the 77/99 but does the 85 have the same
: ROM samples as the 99?  The vector people are in their own little world.  
: What would SY99 users and SY35 users possibly have to share with each other?
: Yes, this definitely needs to be broken down into separate lists.

A list must have a minimum of traffic to survive. Resources should not
be too fragmented. Do you want 4-member lists? I am on a 4-member Roland
D70 list that has not experienced any traffic yet. One common thing
people can always share is frustration... :-)

BTW, the sy-list has now 53 members. You can join if you want
to see if it is really necessary to split it. Send a mail to
sy-request@chorus.fr (use a human language).


-- 
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Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
From: tmottone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Teemu Mottonen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Peavey mail-order dealers in US ?
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:57:05 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Dec28.171220.5072@klaava.Helsinki.FI> I write:
>Hi all.
>
>I need info on mail-order dealers in the USA that carry Peavey products
>(at least the SP/SX). Please send also non-800 phone/fax numbers if
>possible.
<...>
Here are some companies in US that carry Peavey and will ship outside
US:
                                     phone           fax
Goodman Music, LA?                   310 558 5500    310 558 5505
Talked with Andy, SP is $599 (unless I heard wrong, as other companies
have a higher price on this) and the SX is $325. Shipping to Finland
could be around $100.

New York Music, Ohio                 216 758 4705    216 758 1096
I talked to Bill, SP is $699 and SX $299. Also Todd and John serve the
international callers.

Caruso Music, Connecticut            203 442 9600    203 442 0463
Talked to John, SP is $975 and the SX is $335. UPS shipping to Helsinki
is $159.

Sound Deals, Alabama                 205 823 4888
I sent email to Jamie Robertson (72130.1746@compuserve.com), and also
talked with him on the phone. He doesn't carry Peavey directly, but
has a deal with a company down the street and will email me the price
for SP and SX.

Personally I'll wait until the SX-II is introduced (maybe at the NAMM
show in mid January ?) and purchase then.

Teemu.
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Dept. of Computer Science    tmottone@kruuna.helsinki.fi
Univ. of Helsinki, Finland   tmottone@klaava.helsinki.fi      
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: RSNR60@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Findlay Shearer)
Subject: MIDI software to teach a 10yr old
Organization: Motorola
Date: 31 Dec 1992 13:05:04 MST


    Any reccomendations on MIDI software for the Mac that would help
teach and  encourage a 10 year old?  Any reccs on where else to post
this?

Happiest of New Years and Thanks!
Findlay
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: glatz@emily.uvm.edu (Terry A Glatz)
Subject: Re: Can a regular reciever be used in a small studio.
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:42:12 GMT

Hmm...You can use any amplifier for your studio. But there are some things
you should know about matching comsumer gear with pro gear...
    I am not hot on the idea of wiring up consumer gear to pro stuff. Its not that I have a snoty attitude about consumer gear. The main reason is levels and the Impedance mismatches that can occour.You want to take your mixer and plug into your consumer reciever. here is where the problem may start....Most pro gear has an output level of +4 dBu. Most consumer gear inputs run between -10dBu(123mV)
to -16 dBu (245mV). If you plug your reciever to the output of a pro mixer the result may be that the preamplifier on the reciever will be driven to a state of clipping. This would result in distortion and could eventually damage the reciever... 
     NOTE: some pro mixers have a seperate or switchable output allowing you to plug in -10dBu rated peice of gear.
     Another problem I have found with consumer stuff is tons of cross talk. Yes, there are some nice consumer units for thousands of dollars with great specs, but if you want to spend that much on an amp, get a Crown or BGW amp. 
 
     I realize that budget is a big factor with project studios. I used to run my studio through an onkyo amp. Yea, it worked, but it had its flaws. If you budget is real tighht I would recomend the Alesis RA-100 power amp. Its clean, has a little balls behind it, and its around 300 bucks... 
   Any which way you look at it, you have to spend some money. Pick up a copy of E.Q. or Mix, magazine. I have seen some great used gear advertized in the back.
From: vagif.abilov@thcave.no (Vagif Abilov)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Sony speakers w/PC
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:44:00 GMT
Reply-To: vagif.abilov@thcave.no (Vagif Abilov)
Organization: Thunderball Cave BBS - Oslo, Norway  (47 2) 56 70 18

Does someone know about sound quality of Sony speakers ? They produce
series of small speakers with built-in aplifiers (up to 20W each unit).
I need something portable to use with PC and MIDI stuff. Is Sony OK,
or it's better to go for Roland MA-12C?

Best regards

Vagif.
Entered Dec 30,92 at 14:28:40 on Thunderball Cave BBS from Oslo, Norway.
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From: mvcjp@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.j.pouliot)
Subject: Re: Hammond B3
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:38:24 GMT

Hi - Somebody posted a Yamaha SK15 for sale. I had the message mailed back to
	me so I became the sender! I don't have his/her email address or name!
	I tried the phone number and I got a bounce to a recording of a changed
	area code! Touche' huh?

	Well, I'm very interested in the synth and would like to buy it. Please
	send me the info I need to get the beast! 

					Thanks,
						Charlie
						mvcjp@mvgpk.att.com
						Home: 508-373-7655
From: bouillin@ntc.nokia.com (Claude Bouillin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: SBPro+CW4.0
Date: 21 Dec 92 12:27:59 GMT
Reply-To: bouillin@ntc.nokia.com
Distribution: rec
Organization: kpd

Does anyone know if Cakewalk 4.0 (for MS/DOS) is compatible with
SoundBlaster Pro?
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From: dh3q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel U. Holbrook)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: John Sinclair
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:19:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QfE=_v200UhWM2Hwok
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I was just listening to a tape of some tunes off of a friend's John
Lennon CD, somne box set/big hits deal, and there is a song about
freeing some guy named, I believe, John Sinclair.  Can anyone tell me
who he was and what the deal was?  Thanks
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles

In rec.music.beatles, mdubey@MtHolyoke.edu (Mandakini Dubey) writes:

> Either way we will never really know. Therefore, I subscribe to the belief
> that we should butt out of their personalities, or their "masks", and just
> enjoy the music.

One Hand:  I totally agree
Other Hand: They've been like our big brothers since 1964, and you really
	    start getting the feeling you know them somewhat, and it's this
	    sort of speculation that keeps this notes group thriving.

dennis@hpwrc11.mayfield.hp.com
From: deryl@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Merry Christmas rmb'ers
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:18:27 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

And so this is Christmas
And what have we done,
Another year over, and a new one just begun.
And so happy Christmas
I hope you have fun
The near and the dear ones, the old and the young.

I'm off for the festive season now, so just wanted to wish all my
fellow rmb'ers a lovely Christmas!
Deryl
From: jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Those LDs
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:19:15 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA


	Just wanted to correct myself: the John Lennon video collection *is*
available on laserdisc in USA, I just saw it yesterday at Tower ($29).

	And while on the subject: the "Magical Mystery Tour" laserdisc
in in *surround* sound.  This is probably the only surround mix of the
Beatles available?  Unfortunately I cannot test this mix as I don't have
a surround sound decoder, just plain stereo.  What kind of surround
sound decoder would you recommend?

	Jan Bielawski
	Computervision, San Diego
	jpb@calmasd.prime.com