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From: lnh@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (sometimes a Wombat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Some Coming Attractions
Date: 9 Dec 92 15:13:18 GMT
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Organization: Society for the Appreciation of Janni Lee Simner

pnh@panix.com (Patrick Nielsen-Hayden) writes:
> 
> Queen's Quarter is a trilogy.  

Nifty.

> Midori Snyder's next book for us will be a
> fantasy set in 19th-century New York City and the Wild West, THE FLIGHT OF
> MICHAEL McBRIDE.

Oooo!

	the drooling on his keyboard Mr. E-----
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From: rsm58307@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ron)
Subject: Re: Dragonlance
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:06:35 GMT

>independent one written by Margaret Weiss.  In reply to a comment
>by Ron I don't think that Dark Sword is silly.  It is slightly fragmented but
>only in the sense that we don't see the bits that Joram isn't party to or
>influenced by.  I also have to point out that Star of the Guardians is *not*

While that's true, that sort of makes it heavily fragmented.  As for it being
silly, the embodiment of magic went around as a T-pot.  Maybe I should reread
the series.  Nah.

>Science Fiction (explicitly stated by Weiss) but rather what she calls
>Galactic Fantasy.  This might help to explain some of your problems.

Hmm. I don't really have any problems with Star of the Guardians. I actually
liked it quite a bit (as I think I pointed out).  If you (and Weiss) want to 
call it GF, since it is somewhat inconsistent, that's fine.  Weiss excels
on the dialogue, and sometimes in the characters.  I don't really try to
examine her science, so in that way all her stuff is written in GF-style.

	- Ron
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From: hillyard@msc.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: The Wheel of Time: Prophecies and Portents
Originator: hillyard@tiger.msc.cornell.edu
Reply-To: hillyard@msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:08:21 GMT

From article <darknite.724226280@camelot>, by darknite@camelot.bradley.edu (John S. Novak III):
[...]
> 
> Also, what about the lands past the Three-Fold lands?  Is it
> possible that they are the Seachan, or are they a completely
> separate people?  Hmm.  I know that most of the silk in the
> civilized lands comes from past the Three-Fold lands, by way of
> the Sea People (and before, by the Cairhien, as well.)  I seem to
> remember the Seanchan wearing silk as well-- did they trade with
> that culture, or _are they_ that culture?

When Hawkwings empire is described it is said to be all the main lands and
even some beyond the three-fold land.  Then right before his death he sent
ships across the ocean (which, if you can believe Ishamel, was his idea),
who conquered the 'Armies of the Night?' and became the Seanchan.  So, since
Hawkwing had already done some conquering past the Three-fold land it seems
the cultures are different.

SEH
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From: hillyard@msc.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: The Wheel of Time: Prophecies and Portents
Originator: hillyard@tiger.msc.cornell.edu
Reply-To: hillyard@msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:55:10 GMT

From article <1992Dec10.194220.26999@alchemy.ithaca.ny.us>, by cpf@alchemy.TN.Cornell.EDU (Courtenay Footman):
> In article <1992Dec10.130729.5499@msc.cornell.edu> hillyard@msc.cornell.edu writes:
[...]
>>Perrin
>>	A broken crown					:: ???
>>	Trees flowering around him			:: ???
>>	A falcon and a hawk, perching on his shoulders, both female.
>>The hawk is Berelain, her and Perrin are likely to meet again.
> 	Yes.  Note that the banner of Mayenne is a golden hawk.
> 	(The Glossaries are very important;  reading them answers
> 	many questions.)

Also note that the glossary of Berelain says that 'she will have what she 
wants, whatever it takes, and she always keeps her word'.

I recall a certain 'ogiers oath' that she was going to take Perrin from
Faile.  Yes, very likely that Perrin will see her again.

SEH
From: write@eff.org (Glen Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Auto-buy lists
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:46:37 GMT
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Originator: write@eff.org

Andrew Calyton writes:

>R.A. Lafferty [alas, he's dead]

What?!  When did this happen?  Alas! is right.

glen



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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
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Subject: Re: Civil War Alternate Histories
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:42:05 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <17DEC199207050803@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>  
stocker@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (ERICH FRANZ STOCKER) writes:
> In article <D2150056.ladc96@erics.infoserv.com>, erics@infoserv.com  
writes...

> I agree with this view of Lincoln's intentions.  He certainly did  
not intend
> in 1861 to do anything about slavery in the south. He indicated  
this many
> times.  This policy was still the case even after the war broke  
out. That
> was part of the problems he had with the northern abolitionists.  
Also, a
> great part of their vindictive against. Remember he allowed slavery  
to
> continue in the states not in rebellion.

Agreed. Lincoln believed (probably correctly) that if he
could stop the expansion of slavery into the new territories,
slavery would eventually die off in the South itself. While he 
disliked slavery, he felt that allowing it to whither and die
over a period of time was better that a call for immediate 
abolition, since the latter would mean disolution of the Union,
which he wanted to avoid.  His view was that the keeping the
Union together was more important than the immediate abolotion of
slavery, since the latter would occur given time.

--
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From: chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus)
Subject: Re: Auto-buy lists
In-reply-to: colin@callisto.pas.rochester.edu's message of 18 Dec 92 01:54:18 GMT
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Organization: Dept. of Physics, Univ. of California, Irvine
	<1992Dec18.015418.23388@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:13:38 GMT


In article <1992Dec18.015418.23388@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> colin@callisto.pas.rochester.edu (Colin Roald) writes:

   I'm suddenly curious--what authors are on other people's "auto-buy" lists?
   Meaning that if you see one of their books and you don't have yet and the 
   money is in your pocket, you buy it--no further questions asked.

================================================

Easy question...

John Shirley
R. A. Lafferty
Gene Wolfe
Tim Powers
James Blaylock
K. W. Jeter
P. K. Dick
Harlan Ellison
Lord Dunsany
John Crowley
Lewis Shiner
Robert Holdstock
Clark Ashton Smith
H. P. Lovecraft
Rudy Rucker
Bruce Sterling
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From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: Heinlein and "wimmin"
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:56:51 GMT

In article <11DEC92.15625014.0172@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> O2NY <O2NY@UNB.CA> writes:
>>.
>Who do those women want to have babies with? Yes the answer is men!
>Men also want to children. Heinlein promotes the idea that ALL humans
>be they male or female, want to have children. Frankly, I don't see
>what is wrong with that. If there is any greater contribution to
>humankind than procreating, I would really like to know what it is.

	Technological  innovation is one obvious example. A  non-
reproductive engineer  whose work results in (for example) affordable
mass transit  systems which,  by  allowing industrial workers to
live  away from the polluted  neighborhood near factories  might,
by  extending the adult lifespan of the workers,  and  by reducing
the loss of children to  pollution-related disorders,   increase
the population by  more humans  than  simple reproduction on  the
part of  the engineer would have resulted in.

							James  Nicoll
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From: sej5g@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Susie Juroff)
Subject: Re: _Falcon_ and Emma Bull
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:43:28 GMT

Also look for The Year's Best Fantasy & Horror, edited by Ellen
Datlow & Terri Windling. She's been in at least once (I think
we're in year 5 now of the collection) also the Bordertown
series edited by Terri Windling (I think).  Emma Bull has
written at least one short story in those three (to my
knowledge, only three) collectins.
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From: e_dessu@pavo.concordia.ca (dez)
Subject: Re: Ending of Tigana question *spoilers*
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: tigana
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:11:00 GMT

In article <Bz9vrF.99s@javelin.sim.es.com>, krogers@javelin.sim.es.com writes...
>I just finished Tigana.  I'd never heard of Kay before as I'm only an
>infrequent sf or f reader.  Anyway, I picked it up on a whim the other
>day.  It was really good - far above the norm IMO.
> 
>I have a question about the very last paragraph of the book.  Sandre,
>Baerd and Devin see a Riselka (sp?) at the same time.  I knew three
>men meeting one at the same time had some significance but I forgot
>what it was and couldn't find it again in the book.  It went something
>like: "One will find his path, one will die,...".  Can anyone tell me
>what three things happen?

Um...darn I don't have the book with me but I'll lok it up as soon as 
possible and get back to you.

>Also, are Kay's other works as good?  I'm not much of a sophisticated
>reader but I really thought Tigana was a superior book.  Your milage
>will likely vary...

Kay wrote a trilogy in the early 1980's, when exactly I can't remember.
It was called the Fionavar tapestry.  I thoroughly enjoyed it.  It is 
very fairy tale-like and symbolic.  I recommend it.

His latest book is called A Song for Arabonne, I think, or something
close to that.  I haven't read it yet, but I hope to pick it up as 
soon as possible.

dez.
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From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Auto-buy lists
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:30:51 GMT
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Keywords: tigana

Fred Saberhagen
Dave Duncan
David Brin
James Schmitz (when he was still alive)
Poul Anderson (if it's SF, not fantasy)
Michael McCollum

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From: pisherwo@wm.estec.esa.nl (Phil Isherwood)
Subject: Re: good book for Christmas present
Reply-To: pisherwo@wm.estec.esa.nl
Organization: ESA/Estec/WMS, Noordwijk, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:42:43 GMT

My reccomendations would be:

Orbitsville            :  Bob Shaw
The Ragged Astronauts  :  Bob Shaw
Inherit the Stars      :  James P Hogan


'The Ragged Atsronauts' is one of the best books I have read
in years.

Hope this helps.

Kindest Regards,

Phil Isherwood
pisherwo@wm.estec.esa.nl


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From: fscem1@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Guy Kay & question (was Re: Ending of Tigana...)
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:06:23 GMT


	Sorry, this machine won't do an edit...but anyway, Guy
	Gavriel Kay's Finoavar Tapestry books are, in order,
	_The Summer Tree_, _The Wandering Fire_, and _The Darkest
	Road_.  And they've just been re-printed by ROC Fantasy, so
	if you want to read 'em, head to your nearest bookstore.
	Even if they don't have them in stock they should be able
	to order them with no problems.

	Question:  Does anybody know anything about ROC Fantasy?
	Like, whether they accept unsolicited and/or unagented
	manuscripts?  I wrote to them but haven't received an
	answer yet, so I thought I'd ask here...e-mail or post
	a response, I don't care.  Thanks.  

						-bright the hour		
							catie
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From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Civil War Alternate Histories
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<1992Dec17.164841.28266@genie.slhs.udel.edu>
	<1992Dec17.184608.8045@Princeton.EDU>
	<1992Dec18.130737.2090@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:45:37

I think the posters on the question of continued slavery underestimate the
importance of moral issues.  Marxism made this fashionable, and
many people still consider completely ignoring the effects of people's
ideas of morality on their policy as a sign of sophistication.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
From: KELLEN@CLEMSON.CLEMSON.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re:Steven Boyett
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:57:00 GMT

Greg Mills asked about Steven Boyett, the author of Ariel.
I liked the book and have his second _The Architect of Sleep_,
although I have not read it.
  I was at a con in Florida (Tackycon) where Steven Boyett was
presenting.  I did not meet him directly, but he mentioned to
a friend of mine that he had several novels rejected since
_The Architech of Sleep_, so that may be why you haven't found
anything else by him.
Ellen Krupar
kellen.clemson.clemson.edu
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From: doom@elaine36.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Brenner)
Subject: Re: Literary SF
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:01:35


Kim Stanley Robinson.  The short stories in PLANET ON THE
TABLE are excellent, and there's a more recent collection I
haven't read yet...  I'm in the middle of ICEHENGE, which is
also excellent. 

Gregory Benford has his moments.  Try ACROSS THE SEA OF
SUNS.  

Cordwainer Smith.  
Joanna Russ. 

Most other's I can think of have been mentioned already,
like Delany, Wolfe, Disch... 

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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation wanted: Books about magicians 
Reply-To: harit@kripalu.com
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 13:52:42 GMT

In article <BzFpv0.LnE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna  
Constantine) writes:
> _A Wizard of Earthsea_ is a good book about magicians.
> 
> So's the Hellblazer trade paperack, "Original SIns" if you're
> into weird magic users like our John Constantine, and like comic books.
> 
> LJC

The best book I have read about magicians was Magician by Raimond Feist in the  
Rift War series.
-- 
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Auto-buy lists
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 02:38:14 EST

   Auto-buy list: Proviso: These are the authors whose NEW works I would buy
without question; Note also that all these are SF.  Even if the writer writes
non-fic or mystery, those other genre books would not be on the auto-buy list.
 
   Issac Asmiov
   Arthur C Clarke
  Robert Heinlein (though chances of a new book of fiction is nil)
  Ted Sturgeon  (we can always hope)
  Ray Bradbury
  Harlan Ellison
  Norman Spinrad
   David Brin
Greg Bear
 William Gibson
 Bruce Sterling
  James Tiptree Jr. (Again, we can always hope)
  John Varley
 
   George Turner (after Brain Child, he joined the list.. the book was that
good IMO)
   Robert Sheckley (FOR SHORT STORIES ONLY)
   Dan Simmons
   Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle (joint work only)
 
   This is not just a random list.  I figure I have 80% or more of all these
writers' SF output (exclud. Sheckley novels, and Sturgeon, because his books
are so damned hard to find, ditto George Turner.)
   Fredrik Pohl hovers just below these names... not quite making it;
    Another which slightly misses is Robert Charles Wilson;
   There are also certain sequels which I would grab without question, but
I may not be interested in their writers' other works.
 
   Yeah, these are mostly "superstars", but there are reasons why these guys
are superstars...
 
    Junsok Yang
From: lnh@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (sometimes a Wombat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Mass minds (was: Greg Bear Blood Music)
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:50:03 GMT
Organization: Society for the Appreciation of Janni Lee Simner

ojvind@chagall.cns.caltech.edu (Ojvind Bernander) writes:
> 
> "Mass minds" seem to come in two flavors.
> First, there is the form where a group of people are telepathic
> and can share thoughts and feelings to various degrees.
> It seems to me that this would be a desirable character to have,
> since it would improve communication, empathy, and intimacy.

Oh boy.

Mass minds by telelpathy seem to come in two flavors.  First there is
the form where, since this improves communication, it is a good thing.

Second is where this is a living hell, as we would then get to "hear"
all the little nasty impulses of everybody, learn exactly what they
think of us, have no privacy, etc.  It seems to me that this would be
closer to the truth.

For a humorous spin on the second, see Douglas Adams' throw-away
comments about the people that hosted the Disaster Area concert.

	Larry "Oh boy" Hammer
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From: kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Auto-buy lists
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:57:28 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester

My ayto-buy list consists of only one author:

Charles De Lint

Heinlien used to be on this list but I have already read everything
he has written (or rather everything of his I have come in contact
with :)

Niven used to be on this list but I have not had the drive for 
his newer works.

Kevin
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From: hillyard@msc.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: Wheel of Time: Major Questions??????
Originator: hillyard@tiger.msc.cornell.edu
Reply-To: hillyard@msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:42:54 GMT

From article <92343.143213U52025@uicvm.uic.edu>, by <U52025@uicvm.uic.edu>:
>   1. Can someone tell me what is the importance of the Tower of Ghenjei?
>      I've been reading the net and from what people have been about it it
>      sounds important.

It is the home of the creatures who answered the questions and granted the
requests of those who stepped through the door shaped ter'angreals.  Since they
seem to have great power, the tower has been specifically about talked by 
various characters in both the real and dream world, and we have seen Slayer 
enter it; it is likely they will appear again.
> 
> 
>    2. From what Min has seen when looking at Rand and also from what I read
>       it looks like Min and Elayne would be two of the three woman that are
>       going to be married to Rand. But who is the third?
> 
> 
>          I was sure that Egwene was the third after reading The Dragon 
>Reborn,

We knew it would not be Egwene since the first time we saw Min and she said
they wouldn't get together.  It seems obvious that the third is the Aiel woman.
> 
>     2.b. When Min had these preditions about Rand, did she say that they 
>	would be married to them or just fall in love with him?

Apparently, just that the women would fall in love with him; nothing about
Rand's feelings.

>     3. An lastly, Who are the Jenn Aiels? I know they are the true Aiels but
>        does anybody know from what they read why the Aielmen named themselves
>        after them?

Have you read TSR?  It's all there in Rand's experience in Rhuidean.

The quick outline is that there were two major splittings among the Aiel.
First, those who abandoned the stuff left to them by the Aes Sedai and went
seeking the song; thus becoming the Traveling People.  The second between
those who kept the way of the leaf and those who took up weapons (with remnants
of the way of the leaf such as not using a sword).  Those who kept the way 
are the Jenn Aiel who latter built Rhuidean and died out.

SEH
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From: thornley@milli.cs.umn.edu (David H. Thornley)
Subject: John W. Campbell and Space Opera (was Re: LENSMAN?)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:48:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.000259.29056@alchemy.ithaca.ny.us> cpf@alchemy.TN.Cornell.EDU (Courtenay Footman) writes:
>I wish this were true.  Obviously (?) you have never read bad Golden
>Age space opera, or even mediocre Golden Age space opera.  I have
>managed to forget the really bad stuff I have read;  for comparison to
>Doc Smith, though, try John W. Campbell's "Wade, Arcot & Morley"
>series.  Smith is greatly superior.  (For one thing, the species
>that Wade, Arcot & Morley belong to apparently reproduces by budding,
>as it only has one sex;  for another, Smith realizes that it takes
>some effort to turn a scientific discovery into an invention.)

Not true on the sexes.  In the trilogy, there are two references to
female human beings.  A "woman" is mentioned in passing on one of the
airliners attacked by Wade in his pirate phase, and as the three prepare
to launch their first spaceship, they decide that it would be inappropriate
to have a "pretty girl" launch a "flying bachelor pad".  (Of course, with
Arcot's and Morley's fathers as fairly prominent minor characters, you
could have expected some mention of a mother, somewhere.)  The next two
and a half volumes of the trilogy are, of course, entirely male.

You are correct on the development.  In the first book, Arcot develops
the mathematical theory of a weapon one night and uses it the next
day; in later volumes, he develops weapons even faster.

DHT
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Anyone like to comment on Garden of Rama?
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:47:14 GMT
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In article <Bz6xxG.F3F@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hartlemp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael P Hartley) writes:
>major spoilers for above...

>   I finally got around to reading this new one...  The whole
>thing seemed great, until I got to the end...  there wasn't one..
>
>    The end resolved absolutely NOTHING!!  I mean, sure, series usually
>leave some loose strings, etc..  but this one was like it was missing about
>4 chapters at the end.

	Actually, it was missing a whole book :)

	Clarke's got an annoying habit of leaving a lot unresolved at the end
of a book (Rendezvous with Rama, 2001, 2010, 2061, Rama II, Garden of Rama;
the only other books I've read of his are Islands in the Sky, Songs of Distant
Earth, and Cradle); the new Rama books have brought out the worst/best in him
in that area because he KNOWS he's going to be doing another.  I'm not going
to complain about this;  where RwR was a sterile, though well thought-out,
story, Ramas II & III are taut, fun, clever adventures; the build-up and end of
Garden has pretty much assured me that I'll end up buying Rama Revealed rather
than wait.
From: dslotta@AUSTIN.ONU.EDU (Douglas Slotta)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: (none)
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:36:56 GMT

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