HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cctat@othello.ucdavis.edu (Ivars Balkits)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Just a little piece of trivia...
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:35:35 GMT
Organization: Information Technology, UC Davis

I remember (driving cabs for about six months in 1976) being able to drive
Broadway from at least 59th street to the Battery, maintaining a certain
constant speed, without hitting one red light. That's culture!

Ivars
isbalkits@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: rivenbur@pleiades.cs.rpi.edu (Reid Rivenburgh)
Subject: Re: Columbia County (Chatham)
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Computer Science, Troy NY
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:06:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.165201.3279@shearson.com> brekshyn@shearson.com (Bohdan Rekshynskyj) writes:


>      Anybody here from Columbia County or especially the Chatham area!  Would love
>   to hear about it...
>
>
>					   Bohdan

I grew up in the Chatham area.  This is the second time I've seen it
mentioned on this newsgroup (maybe you were the other poster?), which
is kind of strange considering it's a dinky little town of about
3,000.  There isn't really a lot to say about the place, but I
probably take for granted anything a visitor might think is
interesting, since I've always lived there.  Push me hard enough and
I'll come up with something!  (Like the fact that there are towns
called Chatham, Old Chatham, North Chatham, Chatham Center, and East
Chatham within 15 miles of each other.  How's that for creativity!
And none bigger than the main Chatham...)

Reid
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: becki@Ingres.COM (Rebecca E. Tants)
Subject: Re: 3 topics in one!
Reply-To: becki@squid.ingres.com (Rebecca E. Tants)
Organization: Ingres, The ASK Group
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:20:00 GMT

gordon,theodore d (tgordon@prefect.cc.bellcore.com) wrote:
: 3. As far as the discussion of Upstate beers - I found a mint set
: of Schultz and Dooley bar lights (boxed, new) in the attic
: of the house we moved into here in NJ.
: Do they call up any memories for anybody?

Boy do they - my fathers pride and joy was that set.  my mom still has
them in our house in Burnt Hills (north of Schenectady).  You realize
that, beyond memories, those are worth a pretty penny these days....

: Ted "wishing-one-could-earn-a-living-in-Central-NY" Gordon

Tell me about it.  After a layoff from GE in Syracuse 2 years ago, I've been
outcast to places with jobs - first Maryland and most recently the SF Bay
Area (which contains a remarkable number of east coasters....).  Anyways,
If I could make a living back there, I'd be there....Someday I'll end up
back there anyway.......

Becki
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: Re: What the heck is "Upstate"? (more NYC-bashing...)
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:13:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.190950.6167@nynexst.com> selvin@nynexst.com writes:
>In article auFkwB2w165w@netlink.cts.com, rcf@netlink.cts.com writes:

>>of evil in the world (NYC being, of course, the source of *all* evil in 
>>the world).  

>>bit [despite Buffalo's posturing over chicken wings]).  I must say, it's 
>>nice to run into other people who find NYC an abomination. 

>NYC has severe problems, no doubt about it. It also has more to offer than
>any city on the planet. I don't usually flame, but in my experience, people
>who bash NYC have either never been there or are ignorant, racist, or have a psychological problem of some sort.
>
>Can we give this tedious vitriol a rest?

You've omitted another group of people that bash NYC with the absolute
birth-right to do so.  That group is those of us who are *NATIVE UPSTATERS* and
are being bled-dry by taxes to feed that cancerous blight at the bottom of our
otherwise beautiful state.  Give useless NYC to New Jersey!  They have more in
common.  And yes, I have been to NYC and still find it useless and a blight.
As for the allusion to 'psychological problem', I find more of that in NYC than
in upstate, therefore it is not we the NYC-bashers with the psychological
problem, but they, the NYC-lovers.  Our upstate landscape is being destroyed by
powerlines so that NYC can be treated to low-cost Canadian power, our
reservoirs were being 'eyed' by Cuomo and Koch to be stolen to provide the
blight with water, our $$$$ go down that stink-hole so subway fares can remain
the lowest on earth...  No, we native upstaters have every right *and*
responsibility to b*th about NYC, it's ruining an otherwise wonderful state.

Walt K.
-- militant Roman



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From: gsfm@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Seymour Morris)
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 14:06:23 GMT

In article <19DEC199216245076@b56vxg.kodak.com> lewis@kodak.com writes:
>In article <1gqrecINNgse@agate.berkeley.edu>, ddgarcia@coons.berkeley.edu (Dan Garcia) writes...
>>rdetweil@boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler) writes:
>>|> jerry@ee.rochester.edu (Jerry Seward) writes:
>>|> >marnie@ajax.mitre.org (Marnie R. Salisbury) writes:
>>|> >>
>>|> >>Wow-- there's so many of us upstaters out there.
>>|> >>
>>|> >>> Has anyone heard of Dolgeville?
>>|> >>
>>|> >>Yes.  I'm from Poland.  Have you heard of it?
>>|> >>
>>|> >Sure, I'm from Floyd.  Have you heard of that?
>>|> >
>
>Boy, this is starting sound like the Saturdays at lunchtime when I was a 
>kid hearing the Oneida County MutualAid Radio check.
>
>New Hartford  (my hometown)
>Whitesboro
>Oriskany  (my mother's hometown, .. great Xmas lights at Trinkas manor!)
                                                          ^
TRINKAS BURNED DOWN THIS YEAR(?) OR LAST.  NO MORE LIGHT SHOW.



LEN

>Deerfield
>Camden
>Sylvan Beach
>Florence  (my neighbors' hometown)
>Western
>Stittville
>Sauquoit
>Remsen
>Marcy (if you were a little crazy, you'd end up at Marcy..)
>Washington Mills
>New York Mills
>Boonville
>Vernon-Verona
>Floyd (one heck of a fireman's field days!)
>Stanwix
>Westmoreland
>Clark Mills
>
>how I remember the Oneida County Fireman's convention!  When the firematics 
>were dominated by Mohawk's fire department.
>
>
>Heck you don't have far to travel between Paris and Rome then of course Greece
>is a little farther down the road..   Plus Ohio is a town that you will miss if
>you sneeze! And yes you can go to Mexico, where there is a lot of snow! 
>
>Then of course you have the "villes"  
>
>Cassville
>Waterville 
>Kuckville 
>Clayville
>Wampsville (one of my favorites!)
>Baldwinsville
>
>Then you have the Erie Canal "ports"
>
>Lockport
>Brockport
>Spencerport
>Fairport
>Gasport
>Middleport
>
>It is nice to find out there are other folks that know there is an 
>upstate NY!  
>
>As an aside, I am always bugged when a news report about somebody famous
>comes from "upstate" New York.  They never give a town name or anything..
>It is like the rest of New York state is one big "town" !
>
>And another thing (sorry for running on, here is a personal hot button..)
>
>Why do weathermen in Buffalo call everything west of Rochester downstate!??!
>
>
>Ken Lewis
>===============================================================================
>Eastman Kodak Company, RDCS 		 RF:            N2LCI
>1669 Lake Avenue                         Internet:      lewis@kodak.com
>Rochester NY 14652-3302			 AT&T:          (716)-722-3438
>===============================================================================
From: edp@sneaks.kodak.com (Ed Pendzik -- Sun Consulting)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: The Port City
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:33:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
In-reply-to: strzelin@sscdaq.phy.bnl.gov's message of 18 Dec 92 18:51:13 GMT

That's the spirit! I was getting sick of the whinny
"there's no culture in upstate, meow, meow, meow".

who has been to A-Bay or Romans in Syr-ack-us? I'm talking Romans before
charlie added an "Inc." after his last name and had a 12 ft neon sign.

Those places would blow the normal mortal's fuses. Party overload.
6 Bradors intermingled with 4 Jolts. WoW!

	Regards,
	Ed Pendzik
From: steveo@custard.think.com (stephen anthony)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:12:03
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: custard.think.com
In-reply-to: marnie@ajax.mitre.org's message of Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:49:07 GMT

In article <marnie.724538947@ajax> marnie@ajax.mitre.org (Marnie R. Salisbury) writes:


   Wow-- there's so many of us upstaters out there.

   > Has anyone heard of Dolgeville?

   Yes.  I'm from Poland.  Have you heard of it?

Of course; it's next to Moscow Corners

--
Steve Anthony                     |  "Ain't nobody gettin' outta here |
Software Engineer              	  |   with out singin' the blues"     |
(617) 234-4000                    |                                   |
steveo@think.com                  |  - Albert "The Iceman" Collins    |
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate,alt.config
Subject: Re: New newsgroup proposal: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:31:35 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY


  If this group is intended for motss discussion please put that in the
name and don't use a name which implies general interest. And what's
wrong with capdist.motss for this discussion.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    Keyboard controller has been disabled, press F1 to continue.
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From: goldm@rpi.edu (Mitchell E. Gold)
Subject: Best wings in the Capdist
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
	<Dec.27.18.31.15.1992.10808@busboys.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:15:50 GMT

The best wings in the capdist that I've found (meaty, spicy, tasty) are
at the Ale House on River St, north of Hoosick, in Troy. They've been
voted the best by the local happenings paper and one or two of the local
radio stations.
--
Mitchell Gold, sundance@rpi.edu
(Vote yes on alt.fan.jim-kasprzak)
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From: dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman)
Subject: re: QUESTION
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:51:47 GMT

World Leader <IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:

: why is 50% of the female population of upstate NY
: named either JENNIFER or SUE?

Hmmm ... I'll have to take a look at my Buff State yearbook to see if that's  
true.  I always thought Kim(berly) was the Official Female Name of Upstate New  
York (TM)?  Maybe that's just a Buffalo thing ...
 
: And why have you people adopted the Japanese custom
: of removing your shoes at the door?

Because we don't want to track snow or mud into our homes ,... it becomes a  
habit, even during the summertime.  I find myself taking my shoes off whenever  
I enter a home here in New Mexico, even though it's really not required.
 
: ---Andi

--
   Dan Tasman                                       dtasman@dante.nmsu.edu
                                                     molson@rever.nmsu.edu
   -----------------------------------------------------------------------
   "I think that I shall never see a billboard lovely as a tree
    Indeed, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at all."
                                                                Ogden Nash
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: strzelin@sscdaq.phy.bnl.gov (Bob Strzelinski)
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Organization: Physics Dept., Brookhaven National Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:28:40 GMT

In article <19DEC199216245076@b56vxg.kodak.com>, lewis@b56vxg.kodak.com (Ken Lewis) writes: 
|> 
|> Heck you don't have far to travel between Paris and Rome then of course Greece
|> is a little farther down the road..   Plus Ohio is a town that you will miss if
|> you sneeze! And yes you can go to Mexico, where there is a lot of snow! 
|> 
|> Then of course you have the "villes"  
|> 

Of course to get to Mexico, you have to go through Texas (at least from the west.

 
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Robert J Strzelinski                 // Brookhaven National Laboratory    //
// strzelin@sscdaq.phy.bnl.gov          // Upton, NY 11973-5000              //
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: New newsgroup proposal: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:12:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.010040.29307@nmsu.edu> dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman) writes:
>: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>
>>Ny.* groups cannot be received outside  
>>New York State.   
>
>:As long as there is some site willing to give you a feed, any group
>:can be received outside of its "local" region.  
>
>Yeah, right ... "Oh Mister maintainer-of-the-newssite on this computer in NEW  
>MEXICO, can you carry the ny.* groups too?"   

You speak of this as if it's an impossibility, or even uncommon.  I
can get no.* and fj.* from a nearby college if I like, and I would if
my users wanted it.  Most of the sites I've been at receive a number
of hierarchies from other geographic locations.

>: ____ Tim Pierce                / 
>: \  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
>:  \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
>
>Nost of the people who flamed me for initially creating this group had the  
>triangle in their sig.  I know this is a coincidence, but the group is  
>alt.culture.ny-upstate, not alt.culture.ny-upstate-hetero.  Why the flames from  
>the gay community for making this newsgroup?

This comment is beneath addressing.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: kashyap@busboys.rutgers.edu (Vipul Kashyap)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Best wings in Buffalo ...
Date: 27 Dec 92 23:31:17 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman) writes:

>What's the net's opinion on the best chicken wings in Buffalo?  This is my  
>personal list, but I'd like to know if there's any other "undiscovered" places  
>to get some first class chicken wings.

Hello. I did my undergraduate training in the upstate NY area, Siena College
to be specific, in Loudonville, NY. Though I've never been to Buffalo, I can
give you a short list of my favorite places to get wings.

1) Scubber's Wings - Latham & Troy.  Absolutely the best place I've ever had
wings. They are the hottest and meatiest around!

2) O'Flaherty's Pub - Loudonville NY. Though not that spicy, they're pretty
good for the price (10 cents each).

3) Willie's Wings - New Brunswick, NJ  -- I've managed to find this place,
probably the best place in the state of New Jersey to serve the hottest wings
around. Although their sauce uses some weird spices not normally akin to 
"Buffalo" style wings, they're still pretty good.
From: de@moscom.com (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Hey WCMF fans! was: Re: Rochester brewpubs
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:38:38 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY

In article <1992Dec20.091928.23747@leland.Stanford.EDU> gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka) writes:
>Hey Rochester WCMF fans, nice work on the Bills billboard in Miami
>(the feesh are squeeshed). Do you remember B.J. Shea? He's now one
>of the morning guys on a new format station here in the San Francisco-
>San Jose-Santa Cruz area (was Double 99). He's a nut, (but a likeable nut)
>and they let him expound his often strange opinions ad nauseam in the morning.
>What did he do on WCMF? I can't quite remember it.
>Also, does Tyrone Shoelaces, official waterboy for the Buffallo Bills,
>still do game reports for Bro. Wease?

BJ reported the sports and served as Wease's foil.  Frankly I think he is
sorely missed.  The Morning Circus has not been the same without him.

Tyrone no longer reports on the Bills.  Of course, they do talk to Paul
McGuire (who is even better on the phone than on the TV and I like him on
TV) and Darryl "Spiderman" Talley, who started the year as your basic
jock, and got a whole lot better as time went on.


>-- 
>Greg Sroka
>Menlo Park, CA


-- 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -->     David Esan      de@moscom.com  
 
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From: dillon@world.std.com (John T Dillon)
Subject: Lime Jello
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:50:58 GMT


Recently I have been driving on Rt93 past the pudding plant north of Boston
late at night.  Normally there is a cloying stench of cherry or rasberry jello
around the plant, but for the last week all I have smelled is lime...

I was intrigued enough that a stopped at the plant to talk to the guard at the 
shack about this sudden change.  He told me that plant management had recently
automated the plant and had gone with the lowest bidder.  Unfortunately the 
robots used seem to constantly muck up the recipes and the plant has been
making only powdered lime jello for over two weeks.  There are tons of the 
stuff piling up around the plant.

The guard gave me a five pound sample of lime jello mix and waved goodbye as 
I drove off.  I didn't think anymore about it until this morning when I was 
editing my newsgroups file and I recognized the name of the robots that 
are being used to run the plant in one of the newsgroups.  

Could anyone tell me more about these Electric-Midgets?  I was unable to find
them listed anywhere in my past issues of Manufacturing Engineering, and they
cannot be a standard industrial robot.

Thanks

John Dillon
CIM Development Engineer
From: dboyes@is.rice.edu (David E Boyes)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: State Universities in Oregon will be soo
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:17:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rice University

In article <mikelee-301292165342@fp1-pubs-7.uoregon.edu> mikelee@oregon.uoregon.edu (Mike Lee) writes:
>
>I've been told it's ridiculously easy to upload editorial material to UO's
>gopher, and as soon as I find a spare moment (something I haven't had
>since, oh, last summer) I'll take care of it. I have to think about
>copyright issues and other non-computer policy matters before going ahead
>with it, but I'm happy to know there's interest.

The usual understanding is that if the words "Copyright 1992 Old
Oregon Magazine. All rights reserved." appear in each article,
you have the same copyright protection as in print media. Your
audience is ummediately a *lot* larger in electronic media, so it
may be more difficult to enforce, but the basic legal structure
is there.

You might also look at the copyright statement on the papers in
the IBM Systems Journal. It's legally protective, but permits
reasonable use of the material with proper citations.

>And while I'm thinking about it, how much interest is there in including
>alumni news (also known as "Class Notes") in the mix?
>...Mike Lee, Old Oregon magazine
>...mikelee@oregon.uoregon.edu

I'd much rather see you spend the effort to get the information
in Inquiry online. The "Class Notes" stuff is nice, but I read
Inquiry and Old Oregon for the articles, not the alumni
association PR stuff. I think it's much more important to the
University's image to see that in spite of the budget problems
caused by Measure 5, the UO faculty are still doing top-notch
research and thinking.

BTW, the article on Myles Brand's inagural address a few issues back
rattled a lot of people's cages here -- the news postings flew
hot and heavy for more than a week.  I don't think people here at
Rice ever had to face some of those issues, and it made a
difference to have those words to start from. If you can, pass
the kudos on to the author.


-- 
David Boyes      In the event I am captured or killed, Rice University
dboyes@rice.edu  and the Office of Networking and Computing Systems
                 will deny any knowledge of my opinions.
From: mikelee@oregon.uoregon.edu (Mike Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: State Universities in Oregon will be soo
Followup-To: alt.culture.oregon
Date: 31 Dec 1992 01:05:45 GMT
Organization: Old Oregon magazine
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: fp1-pubs-7.uoregon.edu

In article <1hsr4vINNgrs@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, kean@cerridwen.UCS.ORST.EDU
(Kean Stump) wrote:
> 
> In article <Byqwwn.IG8@rice.edu> dboyes@is.rice.edu (David E Boyes) writes:
> >In article <mikelee-031292133042@fp1-pubs-7.uoregon.edu> mikelee@oregon.uoregon.edu (Mike Lee) writes:
> 
> >Are there plans to make Old Oregon and the equivalent OSU
> >publication available online via something like Gopher or WAIS?
> >Drop me a note if Old Oregon's interested.
> >-- 
> >David Boyes
> >dboyes@rice.edu
> 
> The University of Oregon has a marvelous gopher burrow, gopher to
> gopher.uoregon.edu and look around.  There's information there about requesting
> changes/additions to the burrow, that'd be the way to get Old Oregon in their
> burrow.
> 
> Oregon State University's CWIS/gopher burrow isn't operational yet, but is
> slated to be up near the end of January.  OSU's version of Old Oregon isn't
> in the burrow currently, but I've added it to the list of "that'd be nice to
> have done" items.
> 
> Kean
> 
> -- 
> Kean Stump   
> kean@archive.orst.edu                                     (503)-737-4740 
> Oregon State U Network Operations                         Cthulu Saves, In Case 
> OSU doesn't pay me enough to have official opinions.      It's Hungry Later

I've been told it's ridiculously easy to upload editorial material to UO's
gopher, and as soon as I find a spare moment (something I haven't had
since, oh, last summer) I'll take care of it. I have to think about
copyright issues and other non-computer policy matters before going ahead
with it, but I'm happy to know there's interest.

And while I'm thinking about it, how much interest is there in including
alumni news (also known as "Class Notes") in the mix?

...Mike Lee, Old Oregon magazine
...mikelee@oregon.uoregon.edu
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 23 Dec 1992 14:50:38 EST
From: <CBTCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: PDX/Corvallis doctoral programs (was Re: Oregon Questions)
Distribution: usa
 <CL0TBF0M@cc.swarthmore.edu> <1992Dec16.134555.3567@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
 <16DEC199212211603@cc.utah.edu>

In article <16DEC199212211603@cc.utah.edu>, apm4366@cc.utah.edu (Miaullis, Aaron
Paul) says:
>
>In article <1992Dec16.134555.3567@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>,
>stephas@dgp.toronto.edu (Tamara Stephas) writes...
>{jpaulso1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Justin Gram Paulson) writes:
>{
>{>dockd@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Dion Dock) writes:
>{
>{
>{Out of curiosity:  I've never heard of another institution which has *only*
>{graduate programs, and no undergraduates.  Does anyone know of others?
>
>
>        Scripps Institute in San Diego, California is a pure graduate
>institution.  It also is built on money (and I mean $100 bill wallpaper).
>
>

Rockefeller University here in New York offers only PhD and MD/PhD
degrees.  It is also a big-time $$ school.  Also- no tuition, no classes
(you simply work in someone's lab).  Pretty high pressure, too.

Chris Thompson
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