HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tan@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (David Tan,Box 219 Baker Lab,54810,2720402)
Subject: Re: Questions on Sew-ups
Originator: tan@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:22:22 GMT

From article <9555@pyrdc.UUCP>, by mike@pyrdc.UUCP (Mike Whitman):
> wheelset. I have a question, how do you glue tubulars to the rim? I know
> the basics of spread glue on tire and rim, wait till sticky, apply tire to
> rim, straighten tire, inflate. I am looking for more in the way of tips on

It helps if you stretch the tire a little before mounting it.  This makes
mounting and aligning the tire much easier.  You forgot one of the basic rules:
get rim cement on hands, clothes, hair, and everything nearby (at least for
the first few times. :)  It helps to get the white cement rather than the red;
the white isn't so obvious on your clothes :) :))

Oh, yeah; be real careful about keeping the valve stem straight as you haul and
swear on the thing.


Dave
From: jbrodsky@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (cool flowin gotta keep goin...)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: No more DX?
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:28:46 GMT
Reply-To: jbrodsky@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: UofA Hardware And Computing Knowledge Society
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4


   Is it really true that Shimano will be phasing out the DX line in '93?
I have heard this a couple of times already and would like to know for sure.
Thanks for the time, in advance.



    -Joel Brodsky                

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|  jbrodsky@hacks.arizona.edu      |  "May the next hill be your last, |
|  jbrodsky@seagull.tucson.az.us   |   and all winds be on your back." |
|  jbrodsky@maria.wustl.edu        |                                   |
|  jmbrodsk@nyx.cs.du.edu          |          -jb '92                  |
|__________________________________|___________________________________|

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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: paulo@eik.ii.uib.no (Paul Olav Tvete stipendiat)
Subject: Re: cleaning and lubricating a chain
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Bergen
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 11:55:11 GMT

I'm beginning to get tired of the 'bicycle oil' which turns to black
ink in about thirty minutes, and I'm considering paraffin wax. In
Bergen we have more than 300 days of rain each year. Will paraffin wax
work well under wet conditions? Any other recommendations?

-- 
Paul Olav Tvete;  paulo@ii.uib.no  ---- Ein # kan'kje vara evig, veit du. ----
From: DEBbliss@lbl.gov (David E. Bliss)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,sci.med
Subject: Re: Numbness during extended bicycling & other overuse injuries
Date: 29 Jul 1992 06:23:00 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.160.69

hello kim,

I would gladly trade my LBP and pinched nerves for numb fingers.  I 
haven't been able to race let alone ride a bike for three months because 
of back troubles.  The injury to my lower back is from overuse.  It was 
getting sore for about one month before it really got bad.  During that 
month though it wasn't that sore while riding and didn't get worse 
immediately after riding.  It was just a little sore in the morning.  Then 
I did a really bumpy gruelling 90 mile race.  I managed to cross the 
finish line first and thought it would be my last race as a cat III.  
Little did I realize it would probably be my last race.  Everybody was 
complaining about their back after the race.  "Ha" I thought, "My back 
doesn't really bother me."  I helped my friends loosen and relax their 
backs.  The next day I rode with wome women friends and just wanted to 
limber up my legs.  About 3/4's of the way through the ride I felt a very sharp pain 
in my back and ever since I have to be extremely careful how I sit, how I 
sleep (not on my side), and how much activity I do, otherwise my lower 
legs become extremely numb and weak.  There is definately a huge 
withdrawal one goes through not being able to cycle.  However, if you talk 
to anyone with overuse injuries, my advice for you to give them is "STOP 
RIDING IMMEDIATELY!" Give yourself at least one week off before attempting 
anything.  The initial period is critical, especially for backs.  It can 
become chronic so easily.  For muscle pain, you can work through it fairly 
risk free, but for joints (knees and backs) you must rest and go for zero 
pain.  I did not realize this and attempted to ride lightly and am sure I 
aggravated my back.  Now I face a much, much longer recuperation period.  
I'm sure I'm not telling you anything new here but personal experience 
does make one want to preach a little.  Hope this is of interest to you.  
Good luck with your study.  Let me know if you want more details or MRI 
images of what overuse does to the L4-L5 disk, not a pretty sight.

best regards,

david

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+  just a little bit more,   |                 +
+  just a little bit further |   Jerry Garcia  +
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From: dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca (Anarchy for Peace)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Safety: any reliable evidence?
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:40:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <50hm3xn.tomk@netcom.com> tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich) writes:
>I wasn't aware that Canadians had any civil rights. :-)

I'm not sure we do either. :-)

>
>Isn't this the country that has socialized medicine so that
>Canadians have to come to the U.S. (and get all their money
>taken) to get decent medical care?

This is a whole can of worms with alot of misconceptions on both sides
of the argument.  If someone wants to discuss this, let's find an appropriate
news group and/or take it to e-mail.  

Colin DeWolfe
dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,can.general,ont.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
From: don@dgbt.doc.ca (Donald McLachlan)
Subject: Re: Bicycle Paths
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 18:47:28 GMT

I agree that too many bells and whistles soon get ignored. On a recent trip
to Europe I found the horns on cars were used to say

	Hello
	Here I am
	I am passing
	Thanks I have passed you
	...

Within 2 days I learned to ignore horns. I still paid attention to squealing
tires though 8)


-- 
Donald McLachlan			e-mail	don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Communications Research Centre / DRL	office	613-998-2845
3701 Carling Ave.,			lab	613-998-2423
Ottawa, Ontario				fax	613-990-7987
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:18302 sci.med:14375
From: kent@hal.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,sci.med
Subject: Re: Hand numbness after extended cycling
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:49:56 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <1992Jul23.220816.29313@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu> cs348b4@ibma7.cs.uiuc.edu (michael g xakellis) writes:
>Has anyone considered using aero-bars.  My hands used to get "tingly" on
>longer rides also.  With the bars and their elbow cushions I don't
>have any problems.

Ditto. I ride my bike and motorcycle and work at this blasted keyboard just
about every day and constantly have problems with my right hand. The symptoms
are similar to CPS, but it appears to not be CPS. Just hand fatigue
apparently. The aero-bars really do help and are the only thing I have found
thus far to relieve the symptoms.

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
From: jwgst2+@pitt.edu (James W Gourgoutis)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Painting bikes
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:18:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Dear Rec.Bicycles:

	Although I have in the past seen much discussion and advice given here
about painting bikes, it has all been directed at people willing to pay big
bucks.  I am building me a MTB, and I want to paint it cheaply (i.e., by spray
can).  I painted my road bike this way, and it looks satisfactory, but it is
very easy to chip paint.  Can anyone give any advice on the best way to paint
a bike by spray can?  Main questions include:
	1.  I wonder if it's a good idea to completely remove the old paint.
		I feel that since no matter what, the new paint will not be as
		protective as the old, so I only sand off the clear coat on the
		old paint.  Is this good or bad?
	2.  The use of a clear coat over the new paint.  Good or bad?  My
		friend painted his bike like this, but added a clear coat.  I
		thought it was a good idea at the time, but when I rebuilt the 
		bike for him, the new paint scratched easily.  (OOPS!)
	3.  The use of wax after the paint has cured.  I *think* that this
		might be the key to prevent chipping, but I'm not sure.
	4.  What type of primer to use, if any.  When I painted my bike, I 
		used sandable primer to try to cover up all the nicks and
		dings in the frame.  THEN I noticed on the back of the paint
		can that the manufacturer recommended non-sandable primer. I
		thought that this might be the problem with my bike, but my
		friend painted his with non-sandable primer, and it's no
 		better.
	
	I realize that no matter how perfectly I do this, the paint will not
turn out as good as a factory finish or a custom paint job.  I would love to
get these bikes professionally painted, or even rent the compressor and spray
gun and do it myself, but I don't have the $$$.  Please help!  Touching up
bikes with a Q-Tip (tm) is not my idea of a picnic lunch!  Thanks! 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
James Gourgoutis       				   
Mechanical Engineering                                O   
University of Pittsburgh                           _ /__,     
e-mail me at:  JWGST2@unixd.cis.pitt.edu          (_) /(_) 
Thanks!                                        
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ott.general
From: colette@bwdls46.bnr.ca (Colette George)
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Reply-To: colette@bwdls46.bnr.ca (Colette George)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research 
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:50:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.195022.5765@csi.on.ca>, mcr@csi.on.ca (Michael Richardson) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Jul28.124906.13822@dragon.acadiau.ca> 880431j@dragon.acadiau.ca (Stacy Janes) writes:
|> >>from point A to point B, and when I'm walking, it's generally for 
|> >>recreation/moderate exercise.  With this in mind, I always try to walk 
|> >>*to one side* of the bike path so that cyclists do not have to slow down
|> 
|>   Which side though?
|>   If you walk on the right, then the cyclist has to `pass' you, or
|> wait if there is another on-coming cyclist. If you walk on the left,
|> cyclists coming at you have to change langes (which is probably
|> better, since you will see them, and see if they are paying attention)
|> 
I wrote the part about walking to one side of the bike path, not Stacy.
To clarify what I meant:  I actually walk *next to* the bike path, not
on it.  This way, no one has to slow down to pass me because I'm not 
blocking any traffic.
-- 
===================================================================
Colette George 			
Bell-Northern Research Ltd. 	Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Internet:  colette@bnr.ca 
===================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic Coverage SUCKS!
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:42:58 GMT

I'm hoping they'll think, "Wow, someone watched some Olympics on the
first day and didn't watch any of it afterward!  Guess we turned someone
completely off with our crummy coverage!"

-- 
/\        Ilana Stern DoD#009 | Whoever first said, "Things are seldom as they 
  \_][    ilana@ncar.ucar.edu | seem," was wrong.  Things are usually as they
      \_______________________| seem.  Otherwise, they wouldn't seem that way.
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Correction on the Avia walkable shoe post I made
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:53:08 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul27.020018.14213@husc3.harvard.edu>,
kim39@scws8.harvard.edu (John Kim) wrote:
> 
> If I had to buy a turing shoe (Turing Shoe, definition:  Alan
> Turing defined a Turing Shoe as a cycling shoe designed for
> walking so well that a casual bystander watching the cyclist
> walk but not able to see the cyclist's feet, would not
> be able to say from visual or audiatory clues whether or not
> the cyclist had on cycling shoes......)
>

An excellent definition.

It would probably take an AI to tell whether the cyclist is actually
wearing the shoe or not. But then again, the AI would have to pass the
Turing test.
From: verzani@math.washington.edu (John Verzani)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: re: Cateye Vectra mounts
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:27:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul21.162710.22796
Organization: University of Washington, Mathematics, Seattle
Originator: verzani@frobenius.math.washington.edu

To: jpierce@pdx121.intel.com
Subject: Re: Want to buy Cateye Vectra mount kit

In article <JPIERCE.92Jul21082431@pdx121.intel.com> you write:
>I have a perfectly good Cateye computer with a shredded pickup wire.
>Does anyone have the mounting kit part that they would like to sell?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim Pierce
>jpierce@ichips.intel.com
>

Hi, This happened to me with .5 mi. reading on my Vectra. Instead of forking 
over $22 for a new mounting kit, I fixed the wire. What I did was replace the
wire. This amounted to scraping out the epoxy that they have at both ends
to the point where you could get a soldering iron to touch the leads. I then
melted the existing solder, pulled out the old wire, and placed in the new
wire using the old solder. After this I filled with epoxy. I used a heavier
piece of wire pirated from an old AC adapter. It took about 1/2 hour once I
decided this was what I was going to do. About 1/2 hour less than the time
I spent trying to splice that shitty wire the mount comes with. 

I've also started correspondence with Cateye. I wrote telling them that the
reasoning behind the high price of replacement mounts is specious. The 
argument is it prevents theft, so I told them I would swap an old one with them.
I got word from Japan saying I would have to talk to their dealer here in the 
US. No word back yet, I did get a free bike mirror and some Cateye stickers
from Japan though.

John
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ont.general,can.general
From: 880431j@dragon.acadiau.ca (Stacy Janes)
Subject: Re: Bicycle helmets (was Re: Ontario government ...)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:13:56 GMT

Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org> writes:

>Ok, maybe I should have phrased it differently. I've already replied to
>"CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA" because I didn't think that this would be that much of
>a discussion. To paraphrase what I said, I like going out on rides around my
>neighbourhood where I am going no more than twice the speed of a walking
>person. I can still fall off my bike, but I doubt I'll be doing much damage.

Just thought you would like to know how much damage you can do at walking
speeds.  My roomate was riding one evening, when he fell off his bike.
No big deal, he was only going about 8-9 km/h (slowing down for a stop sign)
when his front wheel "just turned"(he hit the edge of a small rock on sand).
At walking speed, his not much damage included a broken elbow, scarred face,
and dislocated shoulder.  Yes he was wearing a helmet, and no the helmet
could not save the rest of his body, but a broken elbow is better than a 
broken head...

I live in Ontario, and I disagree with the mandatory law, but I agree with
helmets.  For me, it has nothing to do with getting a ticket, it is just
one more constricting law to get money for the government.

>I really would hate to get a ticket for not wearing a helmet when doing
>something no more dangerous than walking/jogging. Personally I think that 
>helmets should be strongly stressed, but not enforced. But as I'm sure you're 
>aware, that's just one person's opinion.

>>As an added bonus, consider that the bears will have a harder time
>>getting their mouths around your head :-)

>At least I don't have to worry about that, living in Toronto... :)

>Gaea

P.S.  One good thing, the government is finally treating a bicycle as
      "an alternative mode of transportation" instead of the former
      classification of "recreational vehicle"


Stacy Janes	Bell_Northern Research	Ottawa, Ontario

** Standard disclaimers apply **
From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Another Novice Gearing Question
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:33:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.1992Jul21.223316.25283
Organization: Rice University, Houston

In article <1992Jul21.212536.20505@src.honeywell.com>
shankar@src.honeywell.com (Subash Shankar) writes: 
>
>Suppose you have two approximately equal gear choices:
>  52 X 17

83 gear inches on 27" or 700C wheels

>  42 X 14

81 gear inches on same wheels.

>Are there pros and cons for choosing between the two?

You named them below.

>For some reason, I tend to find the latter easier for
>hills (small Minnesota-type hills), and the former easier 
>on the flats.  Is there a reason for this?

While the difference is not large, there is enough that you can feel a
little in the difference in terrain you describe.

>Subash Shankar 

-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
From: casseres@apple.com (David Casseres)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Upper Back/Shoulder/Neck pain
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:04:11 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <54232@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, nho@bragg.bio.purdue.edu writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul15.191535.19851@lrmsc.loral.com>,
robishaw@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Gary Robishaw x5960) writes:
> >I did my first century in a loooooooooong time last Sunday and developed a
> >sharp pain just to the left of that knob on the spine where the 'backbone'
> >meets the neck. (I suddenly long for just a smattering of medical training.)
> >I've experienced a very minor pain in this area before, but nothing like
this.
> >This morning, during my commute, it nearly knocked me off my bike. I also
> >noticed that just before the onset, I experience a feeling of INTENSE cold.
> >It is a sharp pain that feels as if someone is driving a knitting needle into
> >that 'knob' from the side.
> 
>   I have experienced the same pain for years.  It started one year after
riding
> 2 slow back-to-back centuries with a friend of mine.  I was in the saddle
> much longer than I normally for centuries.  If you get any useful comments
from
> the doctor, please let us know.

I've also had the same pain for years, but without the cold sensation.  My doc
says I have "mild wear-and-tear arthritis" in that area (I'm 51).  I find it's
worst at the beginning of the season, when the muscles are out of shape, and
gets less severe as the muscles get stronger and give more support.  I find that
moderate use of ibuprofen on long rides -- maybe three 200 mg tabs spaced out
through a day of riding, if I ride all day -- helps a lot with this pain as well
as various other pains that I get.

--

David Casseres
Exclaimer: Wow!
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: Trial set for driver who hit bicyclist
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:55:53 GMT

by the way, where was this... california?
sure sounds like it because they allowed the police officer to
testify as to what the passengers said the driver said.  most courts
would have excluded it as hearsay evidence - but california allows it,
at least for the preliminary hearing.

i seem to recall a discussion of the most common types of accidents.
does anybody remember what they were?  several months ago, i was hit
by a car while proceeding across an intersection.  an oncoming car
was making a left turn and nailed my rear wheel.  i was wearing a helmet,
which was crushed by the impact.  as it was, i had a concussion for a
couple of days (bad time, because i was in the middle of final exams).
what angered me the most was that the driver seemed to think it was my
fault.  doesn't matter, her insurance company paid up.  and the cops
wrote her a ticket for negligent driving, so there's some justice in this
world.  at least in palo alto, anyway.  maybe i should have told her
i was going to sue just to see the look of fear on her face.

-teddy
From: anderson@Apple.COM (Clark Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: bridgestone mb-2 for sale
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:08:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

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him directly.

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Excellent condition
$500 
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From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: What happened?
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:50:41 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <23001@oasys.dt.navy.mil> tdsmith@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Timothy Smith) writes:

>In rec.bicycles, naru@eng.umd.edu (Naruhisa Takashima) writes:
>>Last night (12/29) I taped the 12:30 to 2:05 (12/30 am) Olympic converage
>>in hopes of seeing some track event.  Well, this morning as I fast
>>forwarded through the volley ball and boxing, I came up to the end
>>of the show!  Did I skip through the track coverage?

 They skipped the cycling because they have their prioritites. They had
to give a travelog segment on the hot spot strip in Barcelona. They
have only so much time alloted for sport between their magazine human
interest features and the commercials. 

 Besides, if they can make you suffer enough maybe you'll buy their pay
per view packages. They already have their money from their commercial
sponsors for the network coverage. Why should they offer anything beyond
pablum. Now they can try team tactics to trick you into sending them more
money.

 Very sharp negative marketing on their part. 

>    I think I watch entirely too much T.V.  In particular, I watch entirely
>too much NBC.  I think I'll stop.  I think I'll write them a letter
>and tell them I've stopped.  And why.
>    Mabey I'll foreward a copy to their major sponsors...

 This is a very good idea. I think we should all do this. Maybe someone would
post an appropriate form letter for us to all sign and send in.


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