From: nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham)
Subject: Re:  Amiga & SGI friends! 
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 06:28:47 GMT


In article <gregpen.725880320@crash.cts.com> gregpen@crash.cts.com (Greg Penetrante) writes:

>  Since I WORK in the video field, and make my living doing computer graphics
>on AMIGAS and SGI's (yes!), I can claim this for FACT, that professionals,
>despite the cost/performance ratio of the Amiga, will not choose it because
>the Amiga does not have enough horsepower to provide EFFICIENT graphics
>PRODUCTION for MEDIUM-TO-LARGE budget production.  


You haven't seen the Vivid 24 board because it's bran new!!

And no one is slighting the SGI!  I'm sure that in many situations they 
are indispensable.


>  For the same reasons, you see QUANTEL Paintboxes (despite their overpriced
>nature) in TV studios (every one I've seen.. KNSD-TV, KFMB, KGTV, WPIX, KSCI,
>WWOR, WGBH).  


...sure, sometimes for big-budget production, a few hundred thousand dollars
invested in hardware is of little consequence.


>I am sorry but the argument is wrong.  1) With an SGI, you can have multiple
>artists working on MULTIPLE projects at the same time;  2) Having artists sit
>around idling is STUPID MANAGEMENT and my ASS won't be employed if this were so.


My point still stands.  Why are even the networks using Toasters when they
could afford, and in fact, already own other much more expensive gear?  I
mean, why would thay want several Toasters around when they already have
one or two syestems in the several-hundred-thousand-dollar range? 


>ONE artist can crank out his/her project on the SGI in one hour. The REST of
>the artists will be in PRE-PRODUCTION or POST-PRODUCTION consultation with
>clients while the said artists is working. :-)  


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>I AM NOT KIDDING.  If YOUR argument were true, EVERYBODY would have an AMIGA
>and the other companies would be doing something else! :-)  BZZZZT!
>The SGI and others are DAMN good machines.  The Amiga is a DAMN good machine.


Those SGIs must be awsome machines.  People deffend them with the fervor that
Amigoids deffend their machines.  :)

>
>SGI belongs in broadcast.  Amiga belongs in industrial/home video/pre-production/draft animation. 
> 


Amiga and Toasters are being used professionally as well as in industrial/
home.



                                      NCW


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In article <gregpen.725880320@crash.cts.com> gregpen@crash.cts.com (Greg Penetrante) writes:

>  Since I WORK in the video field, and make my living doing computer graphics
>on AMIGAS and SGI's (yes!), I can claim this for FACT, that professionals,
>despite the cost/performance ratio of the Amiga, will not choose it because
>the Amiga does not have enough horsepower to provide EFFICIENT graphics
>PRODUCTION for MEDIUM-TO-LARGE budget production.  


You haven't seen the Vivid 24 board because it's bran new!!

And no one is slighting the SGI!  I'm sure that in many situations they 
are indispensable.


>  For the same reasons, you see QUANTEL Paintboxes (despite their overpriced
>nature) in TV studios (every one I've seen.. KNSD-TV, KFMB, KGTV, WPIX, KSCI,
>WWOR, WGBH).  


...sure, sometimes for big-budget production, a few hundred thousand dollars
invested in hardware is of little consequence.


>I am sorry but the argument is wrong.  1) With an SGI, you can have multiple
>artists working on MULTIPLE projects at the same time;  2) Having artists sit
>around idling is STUPID MANAGEMENT and my ASS won't be employed if this were so.


My point still stands.  Why are even the networks using Toasters when they
could afford, and in fact, already own other much more expensive gear?  I
mean, why would thay want several Toasters around when they already have
one or two syestems in the several-hundred-thousand-dollar range? 


>ONE artist can crank out his/her project on the SGI in one hour. The REST of
>the artists will be in PRE-PRODUCTION or POST-PRODUCTION consultation with
>clients while the said artists is working. :-)  


...skipped.


>I AM NOT KIDDING.  If YOUR argument were true, EVERYBODY would have an AMIGA
>and the other companies would be doing something else! :-)  BZZZZT!
>The SGI and others are DAMN good machines.  The Amiga is a DAMN good machine.


Those SGIs must be awsome machines.  People deffend them with the fervor that
Amigoids deffend their machines.  :)

>
>SGI belongs in broadcast.  Amiga belongs in industrial/home video/pre-production/draft animation. 
> 


Amiga and Toasters are being used professionally as well as in industrial/
home.



                                      NCW


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