From: eshen@.stern.nyu.edu (Eileen Shen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Protection bill
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:55:56 GMT
Organization: New York University

In article <27AUG199210003418@phobos.ucc.umass.edu> s9874194@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194) writes:
>How? I can not understand the logic here. Under someone's PROTECTION
>makes you stronger? Are you someone's Puppy? The word "protection"
>makes me sick!!! 

Since you, Daniel, degrade a serious discussion into a personal
attack, you are nothing but an asshole. I suggest you for goodness
sake read some of the news.* groups and learn how to behave yourself
before you make your next post. Also read again what you just said.
They suggest you do not use your brain, or it's faulty.

>Are you sure you summarized it RIGHT? I do not know any Adam Smith.
>Do not fool me.

If you don't know who is Adam Smith, the grand daddy of classical
economics, and don't care to learn a little bit of economic theory,
then keep your mouth zipped. No one's fooling you. You're making a
fool of yourself by showing your ignorance and stupidity.

>>In a society, each individual should be able to pursuit what he/she
>>wants with minimum constraints. This is what made America great. At
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>So, you do agreee that there shall be some "Constraint". Then, how do you
>define minimum or excessive? Is there a clear, universal cut? I believe
>the line here should be a country's constitution, the law and the order
>of a particular country, not some body else's.

Chinese law has no jurisdiction in US, and no one is charging the
lobbying of the bill unlawful, so what is your point?

>>theory of sacrifice notwithstanding. We are after all human beings,
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>I read it as "We are all animals." After all what is the fundamental
>difference between human being and animals??

Those who can tell the difference between human beings and animals are
human beings. Those who can't, including you, are animals.

>>world. We need a free, democratic China whose full potentials can be
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>Can somebody give me a defination here? What do you mean by free? Free of
>what? I can freely walk on the street of Beijing anytime I want (may
>be not on June 4) but I would be afraid of walking in the street of Mahattan
>after dust everynight. 
>Daniel

If you don't know what it means by a free democratic country, my short
answer for you, Daniel, is that you probably don't need one. Nor need
you worry about it. It does not mean, though, that other people don't
deserve one.

No one will be afraid of, or sick of, any "protection bill" which will
protect you from being forced to walk or live in Manhattan. This
proves Manhattan is a more desired place. There are millions of New
Yorkers enjoying their lives in the one of the greatest cities in the
world, including its night life. If you don't like it, we will take
it. (For the record I got robbed twice in NYC and logged the cases with
the police. So exercise your vigilance while you are here.)

>>the bill. It is heterogeneity, not homogeneity, of opinions that makes
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>>nations great. In fact, I dare venture to say that SCCers make a fine
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>Not so absolute. Heterogeniety also can divide a country. We saw it last
>year in USSR.
>Daniel

It's their choice, none of your business.

>>example for all Chinese by asserting themselves and pushing a stubborn
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>>regime change for the good. It's not a flawless tactic, and it will
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>You are pretty cocky here. CCP only will make changes towards its own
>interest. It will not bend to outside pressure. After all, 1972 and 1978
>Daniel

It's CCP's own interest to treat students nicely ONLY AFTER they
demand for it WITH FULL STRENGTH. Not so long ago they got harassed
very time they went back home and had a visit, you idiot.

Seriously, Daniel, I do not enjoy reply to you at all. Your posts are
so thoughtless that they are unworthy of my attention. It's not my style
to flame on the net, but since you started it, it can only be fair
that I finish it. Don't bother to talk to me again. My best response to
you will be silence.
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