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From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Subject: Re: Rush's TV Show
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:03:54 GMT

kja2192@tamsun.tamu.edu (Kevin Alexander) writes:
>barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>>...  I really do not think it is going to succeed as-is.  

>I totally agree

    Me three. I thought it had a few rough edges. Rush made great eye 
contact and was full of confidence, but IMHO his manner was slightly 
strained; he didn't seem to enjoy it as much as the radio show.

>>Finally, nuke the audience.  

>I agree here too.  Although I _love_ Rush's radio show, I was somewhat 
>disappointed with his show.  The audience was very annoying and Rush
>has some fine tuning to do on his television appearance. 

    I agree that the audience was a distraction.

>I also agree with another poster (sorry I cannot credit the person for
>the idea, but you know who you are) that Rush's set should be changed 
>with him at his radio room-less the audience.

    Right, dump the audience, but I wouldn't mind seeing a couple 
engineers (maybe sitting in a glass booth so they couldn't speak directly 
into Rush's mike but could interject occasional comments over an intercom 
or something; at least they could make rude gestures and such).

    The engineers in Rush's radio studio contribute in a very subtle manner; 
the radio program is sort of like listening to Rush being heckled off-mike 
by a bunch of people. That sort of interaction was absent from the TV 
program.

>Did you people notice the credits? "Cameras: So-and-So, pro-life 
>feminist" and the like...funny.

    The show contained several good sight gags, but it needs a little more 
cohesion.

>I hope this show succeeds, but at a more pleasant time (1:30am).

    You bet. He came on at 1:35AM on the Indianapolis NBC station I was 
watching. He came on right after Letterman.

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From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Abortion rights and responsibilities
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:00:30 CDT


In article <5309@news.duke.edu>, eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
> Just a thought (it's after midnight for this post). Usually when one is
> accorded rights, one is also accorded responsibilities with which one
> should use these rights. For example, no slander/libel when invoking
> "free speech," or shooting innocents when owning a gun, and so on.

Is a prohibition on shooting others a "responsibility" or a violation
of other rights?
>                                                                     As
> the signs from pro-choicers/pro-abortionists say "Abortion rights NOW!"
> I am wondering what responsibilities are accorded to this
> constitutionally protected (according to the Supreme Court) right.

That a doctor perform the abortion.  States can also enforce additional
"reponsibilities" later in the pregnancy.

What is the "responsibility" associated with freedom of religion?

-- 
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------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: art@world.std.com (Al Thompson)
Subject: Re: Clinton, draft dodger. YUP!
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<1992Sep7.191117.13377@uncle.cmhnet.org>
	<1992Sep10.070350.16239@usl.edu> <92254.115353MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:24:35 GMT

In article <92254.115353MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu (Norman St. John Polevaulter) writes:

   In article <1992Sep10.070350.16239@usl.edu>, das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel
   A) says:
   >In article <1992Sep7.191117.13377@uncle.cmhnet.org> david@uncle.cmhnet.org
   >writes:
   >>
   >>...all of which has nothing to do if someone can do the job or not.

   >Like being Commander in Chief?

   Yup. Exactly. You catch on quick.

   Ronald Reagan, for example, got out of the WWII draft, spending the war making
   movies in Hollywood. I presume you don't think that made HIM unfit to be
   Commander in Chief, do you?

Not true at all.  Reagan was in the service as were most of the rest of
the men in country.  He was assigned to make those films.  If you have a
problem I suggest you take it up with his CO.

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From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: Ghost from a wishing well
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:50:27 GMT

In article <168628C2A.TKOZMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu> TKOZMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>I've always wondered what old time movie is it that has a ghost from a
>wishing well.  Why hasn't Rush ever mentioned this?

I have always deluded myself into believing it was Abbott and Costello's
"The Time of Their Lives" -- because it is a bittersweet romantic comedy
involving ghosts in wishing wells, and seems to match the song, and mostly
because I like the movie.  :-)

Now it's my turn: what does this have to do with Rush Limbaugh?  Please
accept my admission of ignorance about Rush; I wandered into this group
without ever having heard him (although I've heard him a little bit
since, just to see what was up).

-mm-
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From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: At last, a conservative comic strip!
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:59:31 GMT

acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:

>Now, of course, I haven't heard of one paper in the evil, liberal media
>pulling B.C. or the Wizard of Id lately, but plenty of them yank
>Doonesbury for daring to have an opinion. 

Doonesbury doesn't have opinions - he libels, and for no apparent good reason
(other than thumping a political agenda, I suppose...)

MD
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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re:  Clinton, draft dodger.  YUP!
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:49:33 GMT
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In article <1992Sep8.193748.20669@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.164143.4987@newsgate.sps.mot.com> titmas@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Eric Titmas) writes:
>
> >This is the standard liberal justification for their double standard
> >regarding Quayle and Clinton service records.
> >
> >It's never made sense to me.  To be in favor of an action does *NOT* mean
> >that you have to do it.  For example,  I want all murderers put in prison
> >but I don't want to be a policeman.
>
> Do you know the difference between Dan Quayle and Jane Fonda?
>
> Jane Fonda had the courage of her convictions to go to Viet Nam.

And George Bush went to Saudi Arabia at the height of the Desert Shield operation
to spend Thanksgiving with the troops.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: diviney@milton.u.washington.edu (Pat Diviney)
Subject: Re: Bush Campaign TV Ad
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:58:04 GMT

Actually, although the Constitution never spelled it out in any great detail,
George Washington set the precedent (among others) that the President was
the Nation's chief diplomat as well as the prime architect of foreign
policy.
From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Help Please.....
Date: 12 Sep 92 14:06:04 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


I'm sorry to do this to everyone, but since I haven't seen a poll given in
the last three weeks on any news tv station or paper, could someone be  kind
enough to post the latest poll?

And one more question:  why is the press  so uninterested in polls all of a
sudden?  After the DNC I saw them on the nightly news 'every' night.

Thanks,

Ted K.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 10:45:45 EDT
From: <TAM131@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: RE: Clinton Cabinet Humor

Sir:
As an avid "ditto-head" visiting my brother at Penn State, we came across your
Clinton cabinet item. Here are my suggestions for same:
Education -- since it seems imperitave that the multiculturalists get the word
  out about tribal Africa, I submit the Reverend Jackson or possibly Ben Hooks
  for the job.  Obviously, that history which made America is not pc anymore, a
  and thus only members of the NAALCP ( the national organization of liberal co
  lored people) are certified to teach history and to educate our children.

HHS -- because most members of the liberal left seem to think that abortion is
  a major health concern in this country, I submit Ms. Kate Michelman, formerly
  of Planned Parenthood, as the head for this department.

Labor -- because of the feminazi's insistence that sex (and hence childbirth) i
  s nothing more than an assertion of dominance by man over women, this depart-
  ment will be eliminated.

Joint Chief of Staff -- with respect to her desires to rescue the women of Kuwa
  it from forced servitude by use of our air force as well as her desires to
  see to it that the entire workings of the Navy are turned upside down to in-
  clude women, I hereby nominate Ms. Pat Schroeder (D-Colorado) for the job.

HUD -- this job would be perfect for Mitch Snyder, but since he has assumed roo
  m temperature, the secretary's job should go to Ms. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.)
  so that her wails and cries of "No justice, no peace" will be silenced.

Surgeon General -- In light of his obvious non-best seller, "Beyond Beef", the
  one and only Jeremy Rifkin should hold this job.

"Drug Czar" -- in the current lexicon of pc, one cannot be qualified to talk ab
  out something unless they have experienced it for themselves. Obviously, the
  one man who would know more about drugs than anyone else is Mr. Marion Barry.

Time and my imagination do not permit me to finish, except to say that WASP mal
  es will not be found anywhere in this cabinet, unless you happen to be a big
  "ultra-sensitive" male such as Alan Alda or Phil Donahue.

Fortunately, I believe this is merely an exercise to keep us amused on rainy
  and cold October afternoons while waiting for college football games come on.

Thank you for your time and patience.

Brian E.M.
                                        Columbus, Ohio
From: ebarbour@gmuvax.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Rush in DC?
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:37:16 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, VA.

Is the Rush show to air in the Washington DC area?

THX
ELB
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: tcanham@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Canham) 
Subject:  Re: At last, a conservative comic strip!
Reply-To: tcanham@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:41:49 GMT

             
In article <1992Sep9.113500.16049@afit.af.mil> news@afit.af.mil writes:

>I've been noticing Hart's strips (BC and Wizard of Id) have been
>noticeably conservative and Christian since Easter this year.  I've
>been wondering if he has just gotten more outspoken about his beliefs
>or if he has just converted to Christianity or something.  
>
>Today's BC strip was one of his dictionary genre: 
>"R-U-4-86" - Are you for stiffing the kid?
>
>-- 
>
>Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
>jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 

I have one on the door to my office which shows the guy who sits on 
the rock and throws tablets with messages on them to the guy across 
the ocean.  This time he writes: "I hear you have freedom of the 
press and freedom of religion over there.  How is it working out?"  
The reply is: "Freedom of the press is winning"

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: Rush's TV Show
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:58:32 GMT

In article <BuMt0r.ILp@vcd.hp.com> kevinc@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE () writes:
>     All in all, I was really glad to finally see what he looked
> like. I take him far less seriously now. 

Perhaps that deep analysis explains why, as implied, you took him
seriously in the first place.  :-)

-mm-
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From: toma@romulus.cray.com (Thomas Arneberg)
Subject: Re: Bush Campaign TV Ad
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:54:52 CDT

>: Could you give an example of the Congress putting itself above the law?

I'm pretty sure that Congress exempts itself from all quota legislation
("Affirmative Action"f  you prefer euphemisms). Why would they force
businesses to do things that they themselves can't abide by?

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From: merlyn@digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy)
Subject: Re: A few quotes from a few years ago
Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, Eden Prairie, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:41:28 GMT

mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:

[teachers teaching religion]

>Spokesman for the STATE is correct.  Not for the federal government.  There
>is a major difference, you know.  Where does it say in the constitution that
>the State of Utah can't promote a religion?  As long as they don't prohibit
>practice of other religions, there is nothing legally wrong.

Wrong; check out the 14th amendment and decisions based on it.

It is not legal for a state to simultaniously require school attendance and
have religious indoctrination as part of that attendance; you have essentially
required all children to be taught a particular religion, which is in violation of the 1st amendment (and the 14th amendment extends this protection against
state laws which violate the 1st).

Sorry to inject facts into a.f.r-l; it may be a violation of the newsgroup
charter.  I'll try not to do it again.

---
Merlyn LeRoy
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From: chrisda@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (David Christensen)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.humor,talk.bizarre,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Bush Campaign TV Ad
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:14:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Sep14.031442.18683
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <mykes.0dou@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.085452.3350@walter.cray.com> toma@romulus.cray.com (Thomas Arneberg) writes:

>Another easy example of congress putting itself above the law is the Bowlen
>amendment, which prohibited sales of arms to the contras during Reagan's terms.
>This amendment was highly unconstitutional, because the constitution does not
>allow for one of the three branches to make laws to limit the contitutional
>power of one of the other branches.  It is fully withing the Constitutional
>powers of the president to sell arms to the contras - it's called foreign policy.
>
I realize our last 2 presidents have asserted various powers not previously
given Presidents, and it's commonplace to ticket everything from arms sales to
covert operations to war itself as a President's prerogative, but I really
don't think it's constitutional.

How exactly is "foreign policy" spelled out in your copy of the Constitution?
And on what basis are arms sales only the decision of the President?

I thought the Constitution described a decision-making role for the Congress,
with the President executing those laws.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: toma@romulus.cray.com (Thomas Arneberg)
Subject: Re: Clinton, draft dodger.  YUP!
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa, na
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:23:53 CDT

In article <LARRY.92Sep9091330@peak.psl.nmsu.edu> larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:
>
>Actually, the real difference between Jane Fonda and Dan Quayle is about
>100 IQ points.

Aw, c'mon... Jane may be a flaming liberal, but she's not THAT stupid...

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From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: At last, a conservative comic strip!
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:08:50 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Distribution: usa
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

Re: BC

You missed the one for the 4th of July weekend.

tablet thrown into sea:
"We celebrated and thanked God for our wonderful government"

response tablet:
"I hope you didn't do it on government property."

Agitator
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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: A few quotes from a few years ago
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Sep10.184128.10496@digibd.com> merlyn@digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy) writes:
> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>
> [teachers teaching religion]
>
> >Spokesman for the STATE is correct.  Not for the federal government.  There
> >is a major difference, you know.  Where does it say in the constitution that
> >the State of Utah can't promote a religion?  As long as they don't prohibit
> >practice of other religions, there is nothing legally wrong.
>
> Wrong; check out the 14th amendment and decisions based on it.
>

The 14th amendment is about Civil Rights.  Section 1 defines citizenship.
Section 2 defines Apportionment of Representatives.  Sections 3, 4, and 5
are irrelevant (relevant to Civil War crimes/activities) and slavery.
If you think the 14th Amendment eliminates a state's right to have ANY of
its schools practice religion, then states have ZERO rights at all.

> It is not legal for a state to simultaniously require school attendance and
> have religious indoctrination as part of that attendance; you have essentially
> required all children to be taught a particular religion, which is in violation
>of the 1st amendment (and the 14th amendment extends this protection against
> state laws which violate the 1st).
>

Prayer is not relitious indoctrination.  Nor is permitting prayer by choice of
the participants in any way promoting a singular religion.  The intent of the
1st Amendment 's freedom of religion clause is based entirely upon the anglican
church in England pre-1776 - where the King demanded every member of society
be a member of that specific church.  And the 1st amendment prohibits CONGRESS
from establishing religion by law - not states.  Nor does it permit the prohibition
of religion, which is what you are talking about.

> Sorry to inject facts into a.f.r-l; it may be a violation of the newsgroup
> charter.  I'll try not to do it again.
>

Facts only in your teeny little self-centered universe.

> ---
> Merlyn LeRoy

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From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Rush's TV Show: Will it Succeed?
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:57:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond

Okay, tough question: what are the chances of Rush's tv show 
succeeding?

I don't see it as very likely. In most places, its on late-night.
I'm sorry, but I don't think that at midnight people are going
to want Rush Limbaugh-style talk. After all, late night 
programming, except for Nightline, tends to be very light
fare - Arsenio, Letterman, Leno... I don't think a lot 
of people are going to give up comedy and celebrity interviews
for solid politics, especially very strong views like Rush's.

Also, while right-wing views are popular on talk radio, right wing
TV shows have generally failed - look at Morton Downey. Admittedly,
Downey took a far more abrasive style than Rush, but viewpoint-wise,
they aren't that different. 

Knowing how he feels about interviews (hates them, unless it's a buddy
of his), that's another strike against him. If the show will be 
interview-oriented, well then, I'm wrong here, but one hour of solid talk
from one solitary person is a lot different from one solid hour of
talk (without phone calls, its not a live show).

And I'm willing to guarantee that if the show fails, he'll blame
the "liberal media" for putting him in bad time slots.
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