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Newsgroups: alt.manga
Date:  Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:28:50 -0400
From: tsao@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
X-Originated-From: esther.msc.cornell.edu
To: alt-manga@darwin.sura.net
Subject: Viz and Apr 17 issue of CBG
Reply-To: tsao@tristan.tn.cornell.edu
Return-Receipt-To: tsao@tristan.tn.cornell.edu

dcm@sactoh0.sac.ca.us  writes:
#
# II_, the new video sequal to the Macross saga, introduced to North America
# as a part of the Robotech series.  This series will be adapted into the
# comic-book form by Tsuguo Okazaki, the creator of _Justy_.  Although it
#

This is really quite interesting.  I've always regarded Tsuguo Okazaki's art
style as a direct imitation of HAL's.  He should do a good job.  Any idea
whether this will be available in Japanese too?

P.S.  I can not receive e-mail though this account.  Please send any
      reply to the following address:

--------------------+--------------------------+------------------------------
  Tsao Sheng-Te     |    Cornell University    | tsao@tristan.tn.cornell.edu
--------------------+--------------------------+------------------------------

"Calvin, Can  you tell us what Lewis and Clark did?"
"No, but I can recite the secret superhero origen of each member of Captain
 Napalm's Thermonuclear League of Liberty.
"See me after class, Calvin"
"I'M NOT DUMB.  I JUST HAVE A COMMAND OF THOROUGHLY USELSS INFORMATOIN"
  -- Calvin and Hobes.
From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Short announcements (WAS: Re: Hard cover KOR)
Date: 6 Apr 1992 07:43:22 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Distribution: USA
Expires: April 30, 1992
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Compiler and Ah My Goddess
Keywords: Compiler and Ah My Goddess
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <rocjdINNsg1@agate.berkeley.edu> ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou) writes:

[Stuff about KOR Delux Bound Deleted]

>How much do you think they'll pay me for this ad?

Don't you much rather have them giving you a free set of KOR Delux Edition? ;)
>BTW, 3x3 #11 is out (here).

Yuck. More anticipation up north... SIGH.

BTW DAve M., if you've been keepin' track of fj.rec.comics, you should know
that Compiler #2 and AMG #6 is due out at end of this month... 
(Gotta get those order forms filled out for those...)
>                                                                         o
>    davmou@ocf.berkeley.edu  ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu   studio 3x3  ^ ^

>                          but one must dream on

Dave C. (The Electric Monk)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
From: pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip)
Subject: Re: just for fun
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:35:10 GMT

In article <4097@sumax.seattleu.edu> kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu writes:
>
>Lum:	"Darling, Let's go to bed."
>
>Ataru (thinking)...... if I cross the line tonight.....
>		Lum "we are husband and wife for real!"
>		and when I go girl hunting, she will get mad
>		and zap me again......
>
>Ataru 	"Everything will still be the same."
>
>Ataru 	"Let's go!"
>
>Mendo	"WAAAAA!"
>
>(so I make up the last one, sue me! :)  
>

No you didn't, in fact Mendo, Ataru's buddies and in fact, all the male
classmates of Ataru were there and their response wasn't too far from 
that... 

Ha ha ha!! That part of the dialog was among the most hilarious I've ever
read in manga :) It's just a pity that there're far less such bright
humor in Ranma (Kuo's post of Just for fun pt.2 is fun too, but it's
not so common) Rumiko has used the joke that Genma fallen into sleep when
Ranma wondered what happened at least 3 times!! And similar thing has
happened in UY: Ryousuke asked her dad about her mom without getting his
reply, after a while she discovered that he is concentrating on having
NikuMan (Bun with meat inside) !! I laughed at it then, and no wonder
I could easily tell Rumiko is using the same joke again in Ranma!

Patrick

Newsgroups: alt.manga
Newsgroups: alt.manga,rec.arts.anime
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 20:34:45 -0400 
From: Hiroshi Haga <hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: I'M SORRY!!!!!!!!
	<29E34321.1500@noiro.acs.uci.edu>

To Used-to-be-Animepaper:

	Shut up.  It's about time you should, Kong, really.

Sincerely,
   <Hand-drawn-signature-of-mine here>

 -Hiroshi Haga(hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu)--
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Re: FAQ 1
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:55:49 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories



Note:  Shouldn't you put the TITLES on each posting?  Makes it a LOT easier
to find what you're looking for.


In article <alt.manga.199204021640.AA18792@baloo.msc.cornell.edu>, tsao@msc2.msc.cornell.edu writes:
> 
> Check the Alt.Manga "What is Manga?" article.  

Haven't seen such an article.  (See Note above.)

> There is also a magazine called "Mangajine", which let you learn Japanese
> through the use of manga.

It's spelled MANGAJIN = "Comics person"

-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		   Disclaimer:  You're not dealing with AT&T.
Newsgroups: alt.manga
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty)
Subject: Re: Manga about software developers?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:36:54 GMT
Keywords: I just HAD to ask...

In article <s63jdINNima@agate.berkeley.edu>, ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou) writes:
> 
> Algo!, by Makoto Ogino, the guy who does Kujaku-oh.  Not exactly your happy go
> hacking type manga.  Does involve debugging thou.  :-)

Care to describe this one a little bit further?
BTW... "Kujaku-who"?  I'm new to this untranslated asian comics business.

> Compiler, by you-know-who.  Computer terminologies abused the same way as 
> Greek myth in Saint S.

Didn't I say, NO COMPILER?  If I didn't, I'm saying it now.  ^_^

> Oh yeah, there's this other one called Akai Dangan (The Red Ball) by Choko 
> Kishiyama.  The story is even more obscure than the title suggests.  Something
> about a hacker and his computer program that can (1) pick the winning horse,
> and (2) make a red ball come out instead of jism, and afterwards the target 
> would lose all male potency........

:-P

> You HAD to ask.

Yeah...
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		   Disclaimer:  You're not dealing with AT&T.
From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Video Girl *
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:31:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.s8aucINNnuc
Organization: studio 3x3, a.b.
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

Old news, but Video Girl is no longer Ai.  So to say, Ai and Yooda chapter is
concluded.  Happy ending I might add.  The new story now has a new Video Girl
Ren (Ai = Love, Ren = Romance).  Yooda is now 25 years old, and he's no longer
the main character.

Anyways, so I was browsing, and all of a sudden.  "Wha!?  It's over!?"  I was
pretty shocked.  Oh well, Ai was good while she lasted.
From: dansu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dan Su)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Re: 3x3 Eyes Magic & Names List
Date: 11 Apr 1992 00:24:18 GMT
Organization: Anime Berkeley
Reply-To: dansu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dan Su)
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-3c.berkeley.edu
Originator: c60c-3bw@e260-3c.berkeley.edu

In article <alt.manga.199204101951.AA05459@esther.msc.cornell.edu> tsao@tristan.tn.cornell.edu writes:
>tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu  writes:
># 
># >I disagree with the use of zombie despite the English translation's use of
># >it. Firstly, zombie is already dead, but is magically controlled to work
># 
># How about "The undying one" as the translation of Wu?
># 
>
>I agree that "zombie" is a very bad translation for "Wu".  Doesn't the original
>kanji mean "void" or "nothingness"?  I think "The void one" would be a nice
>tranlation too.

I always thought that the "Wu" character was a kind of a joke.  Kind of like
saying, "Nope, no third eye here".  As for the translation of "Wu"...hmmm...I
don't think there really is an English equivalent.  Maybe you can just leave it
as "Wu" and explain what it means in a footnote...


-Dan Su				     =-> Anime Berkeley 3x3 Eyes Project <-=
dansu@ocf.berkeley.edu					 O
							o o
Anime Berkeley FTP site: ocf.berkeley.edu, 128.32.184.254, /pub/AnimeB 
equivalent machines:  headcrash, monsoon, lightning, tornado, tempest
128.32.234.31, 128.32.234.13, 128.32.234.10, 128.32.234.15, 128.32.234.28
Anime Berkeley GIFs: ftp.white.toronto.edu, 128.100.2.160, /upload/AnimeB
From: rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Suezou)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Call it rec.arts.comics.asian!!
Date: 11 Apr 92 08:13:35 GMT

rec.arts.comics.japan
or
rec.arts.comics.asian

Why?
Because I believe (as in OPINION) that manga translates simply to comics
and even the term "comics" is used with many popular "manga".
(Comics Afternoon, for example.)

I also believe that this sort of name also supports "comics" of places
other than Japan, like China and Korea and Taiwan.

But whatever the decision (I feel like I just voted Brown for President),
I will support it.. I enjoy comics from any part of the world and
it would be dreadful to not be able to discuss them freely.

**********"Suezou"************_________*************************************
*Cal Animage Epsilon Leader  |  F_S_S_/ Reply to : rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu *
*****************************|_|********************************************
*         Aspiring Graphic Manga Artistry Renderer and Animation Fan.      *
****************************************************************************
"Sightseeing?"		"No, combat."	-Kanuka Clancy, Patlabor:The Movie
From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Re: 3x3 Eyes Magic & Names List
Date: 11 Apr 1992 06:55:25 GMT
Organization: studio 3x3, a.b.
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <s5bjiINNgha@agate.berkeley.edu> dansu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dan Su) writes:
>In article <alt.manga.199204101951.AA05459@esther.msc.cornell.edu> tsao@tristan.tn.cornell.edu writes:
>>I agree that "zombie" is a very bad translation for "Wu".  Doesn't the original
>>kanji mean "void" or "nothingness"?  I think "The void one" would be a nice
>>tranlation too.
>
>I always thought that the "Wu" character was a kind of a joke.  Kind of like
>saying, "Nope, no third eye here".  As for the translation of "Wu"...hmmm...I
>don't think there really is an English equivalent.  Maybe you can just leave it
>as "Wu" and explain what it means in a footnote...

haha, brings back memories.  I think I had Wu down in footnote in my 3x3 
translation.  It goes something like "Wu - a Kanji character meaning none,
empty, light's on but nobody's home...."

Now I wasted more bandwidth to retell the bad joke.  :-P

-- 
                                                                         o
    davmou@ocf.berkeley.edu  ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu   studio 3x3  ^ ^

                          but one must dream on
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Date:     Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:59:25 -0500 
From: Z_BEDDOERJ@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU (Crusher Joe)
Subject: correction to "Important Ranma 1/2 Information"
To: anime-l@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu, alt-manga@darwin.sura.net
X-Vmsmail-To: @ANIME., SMTP%"alt-manga@darwin.sura.net"

Oops, sorry guys, but I just saw a mistake in wording in my post.
Allow me to clarify and fix it...

I wrote:
[some stuff deleted]
>                                              This answers why Ranma 1/2 
>Nettouhen really bit it, story and animation wise, for so long.  You see,
>apparently the head of Kitty, who had been with the company for a long while,
>up and retired.  His predessor, who was younger, and a bit more ambitious,
                      ^^^^^^^^^
>came on to the scene and decided to kick the studio into high gear, taking on
>several jobs.  Unfortunately, all of this extra work got the studio into
>trouble....it was more than they could do in house.  So, several projects were 
>"farmed out" to Korea, and other lesser studios.  Ergo, the quality suffered.
[trouble word underlined]
[rest of message deleted, go read the original! :) ]

That word should have been *successor*, no *predessor* (which is a mispelled
version of predecessor anyways....) :)

Just wanted to clarify that a bit.  

If there was any confusion, Sumimasen. :)
Gomen!  Gomen! :)

Ja ne,
"Crusher" Joe.

  *-------------------------> note NEW address <--------------------------*
  |   "Crusher" Joe Beddoe * President, Shampoo International Fan Club    |
  |     Graphics Coordinator, SFA-TV2 * Nightrock! DJ, KSAU 90.1 FM       |
  *-----------------------------*-----------------------------------------*
  | crusher@calvin.sfasu.edu *  |           "Sh...Shampoo..."             |
  | z_beddoerj@ccsvax.sfasu.edu |    --Ranma, "Ranma 1/2 Nettouhen" #3    |
  *-----------------------------*"Shampoo, you're cute when you're angry."|
  |   Hey look!  Blank space!   |    --Ranma, "Ranma 1/2 Nettouhen" #84   |
  *--------------------------> * = new address <--------------------------*

Xref: sparky alt.manga:1271 rec.arts.anime:9476
From: kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.manga,rec.arts.anime
Subject: new idea, let's forget about manga
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:10:17 GMT
Organization: sumax city 0092

some new idea come in mind while I was glance throught the wasteland
that is called alt.manga.

I think we shall forget about the idea of a rec.manga group. and 
furthermore, we shall disband the alt.manga.  

mail-list is the way to go.

in fact, we will make the mail list so hard to enter, that only the person
who can recite all the characters of Uruboshi, or the person who can 
list all magical spells of 3x3, or the person who can list all the titles 
under Comic Afternoon can pass the first round of test.

there shall be at least 7 rounds of test to weed up the undesirable. the
unknowledge, the untouchable, the unmangaeable, the unsmartable, etc.

we can even invent secret hand shake over the net.

we shall also withdraw all scripts, synopsis, gifs, and jpegs from all 
ftp site.  we will establish a secret mailing service for the mail-list
only.

there is just absolutely waste of energy trying to convince some mules 
that manga is different than comic,  the manga mailing-list shall
remain as an underground secret organization.

now, w/o the manga group, what will we do?  go over to rec.art.anime and
try to imitate, no, be a Anime Kami in person.  The first thing we shall 
do there is change the group name to rec.arts.cartoon.anime.  That is 
the correct name that it shall be.  with all the helps from 
rec.arts.comic, there is no way we can lose the voting contest.

and after that, we can move over to rec.art.comic, and change their name
into rec.arts.marvel, with all the marvel readers already encompass the
whole newsgroup (99.99% of them) that shouldn't be hard.

then come the shocker, we let the real Anime Kami loose in rec.arts.marvel,
by telling Kami that it is really a news group discussing the 
various ways one can improve its ego standing.

may be we shall do something to rec.arts.animation, too.  there is also
all those stupid computer groups, all personal computer shall be
list under group PC.  so it shall be comp.sys.pc.mac, comp.sys.pc.atari, 
comp.sys.pc.commodore. and comp.sys.pc.amiga

actually, we can go one step farther, it really shall be
comp.sys.pc.apple and comp.sys.pc.apple.mac, so is
comp.sys.pc.commodore and comp.sys.pc.commodore.amiga, that looks perfect.

after that? we go home and drink some hot sake, for a job well done.
what a perfect world we live in, all living in peace and harmony......

NOT!

must be the sake......
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:16:04 GMT
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Re: American Kino Distribution
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney

kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu writes:
 >the new Kujako-O #? (4,5?)		3 copys
 >[...]
 >
 >and the number one stock up manga?
 >
 >Dragon Ball #29				330!

Yeah, but Mick Jagger is still popular in Japan, isn't he? :-)

Hmm, I wonder if Kino ordered ONE copy of anything.  That would be
a manga worth investigating. :-)


--
Iain Sinclair   axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au                             ne cede.
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Date:          Wed, 08 Apr 92 10:36:56 CDT
From: Prince Nematocyst / Matt Davis <MDAVIS@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU>
Subject:      DECEIVER and ELF 17
To: alt-manga <alt-manga@darwin.sura.net>

"A fire doesn't always start with the first spark."

OK, I'll try again.  Doesn't _anybody_ read the manga I read?  I desperately
seek convo with _anyone_ who has seen "Deceiver" by Seiji Sugou or "Elf 17" by
Yamamoto Atsuji!

I believe both series have ended (correct me if I'm wrong), so they aren't real
current, but they're what I have.  I find them both to be entertaining, with
excellent art and good, humorous stories.

_Any_ reply is appreciated, even one saying "shut up, we _don't_ want to talk
about those on alt-manga!"

-Matchan

From the warped mind of another manga junkie...
*******************************************************************************
***                            Matthew A. Davis                             ***
*                               (Deibisu Matto)                               *
***                          aka Prince Nematocyst                          ***
*******************************************************************************
***                 (Anime is OK, but Manga is INCREDIBLE!)                 ***
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***                           mdavis@trinity.edu                            ***
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"Trust me."
      -Azami Ryou, DECEIVER
Newsgroups: alt.manga
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: JPEG files
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 03:24:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.073356.24161@muddcs.claremont.edu>, dcrevier@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Crevier) writes:
# Well, I think I figured out how to convert those files using JPEGView, and
# uploaded 3x3cvr1.jpg to piggy.ucsb.edu in the incoming folder.  If someone
# verifies that it works for them, I'll send more.

I got it and it looks ok.
But it is only the top half of the 3x3eyes cover..
Is that what it's supposed to be?
--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan                     doi@decvax.dec.com
From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (David C Blume)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Re: David defects from supporting r.a.manga
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:38:17 GMT
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs

I write:
>                                                       ... In my new HO,
>rec.arts.comics.[manga,japan] is fine.  I've always said I would support
>the manga group no matter what the name of it was, and I maintain that
>philosophy.

Surprise!  My stance has always been simply pro rec.arts.*manga.  I've just
been convinced that rec.arts.comics.manga is acceptable.  I still prefer
rec.arts.manga, but for prideful reasons.

It's most important to me that rec.arts.*manga passes with this vote, (I have
no patience. :-)).  From now on, that is the ends to which I strive.

--David
PS.  Don't remove me from the mailing list.  I'm just now a sympathetic
neutral. 
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+-----+
| <:-)  -Manga fans, | David Blume            | "..." -Anime fans,    |  o  |
| reading KOR #18    | dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com | viewing the KOR movie | ^ ^ |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+-----+
Newsgroups: alt.manga,rec.arts.anime
From: pomru@madoka.its.rpi.edu (John W. Yung)
Subject: Re: Is Ranma 1/2 really ending?
Summary: Not until the last episode.  (;B
Keywords: Ranma 1/2 LD sets
Organization: Scanner Cinema Animation Narration Non-sequitur Entertainment Research
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:38:04 GMT

In article <DELOURA.92Apr7103601@wimpie.noaapmel.gov> deloura@noaapmel.gov
  (Robert DeLoura) expresses his hopes:
>Well, they released laser disc sets of Urusei Yatsura and Maison Ikkoku,
>her two previous works.  Seems logical that Ranma 1/2 will be the same way.
>I'm hoping, anyway.  :-)
>
     Well, judging from the past KITTY releases of LD sets for their
    television series, I doubt that we'll see one for Ranma 1/2 until
    after the last episode airs in Japan.  I guess they're completists
    and/or are willing to capitalize on waiting until the end of the
    series (otherwise known as "torturing the impatient and eager fans").
    (=B

                                 [I was going to make a comparison between
                                 Ranma 1/2 and Peanuts (by Charles Schultz)
                                 but I digress.  (=B ]


-- 
 ____________________________________\8O8/____________________________________
 Pomru (John Yung)                                           pomru@acm.rpi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.manga
From: acuna78@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Re: Usenet Manga Titles List v2.0
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:45:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Ouritsuin Kumomaru no Shougai is by Hiroi Ouji (or if you prefer first name
first followed by the last name: Ouji Hiroi) and Ikegami Ryoichi (Ryoichi
Ikegami).  I should know I have vol. 1 right here in front of me right now.

All of you Ikegami fans out there give a holler so that I know I'm not the
only one fascinated by his & his studio's (does he even have one?) attention
for detail, both for characters and background.

A manga convert,
Day

"Day time is night time."---Me
Xref: sparky alt.manga:1256 rec.arts.anime:9441 rec.arts.comics:12680
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:27:51 GMT
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Newsgroups: alt.manga,rec.arts.anime,rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: New version of MANGA MANGA is out!!
Keywords: Fred Schodt, MANGA MANGA, new version
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty) writes:
 >Got it today at the local comix pusher.  It says "Updated Paperback Edition",
 >and in the cover is a bunch of various manga titles.  At a glance, I
 >recognized GOLGO 13, MAISSON IKKOKU, MAZINGER Z

Golgo 13 and Mazinger Z were in old versions;  any mention of Takahashi
stuff is definitely new, I think.  Great book, but I think it's allowed
itself to get a little too dated.


--
Iain Sinclair   axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au                             ne cede.
Xref: sparky alt.manga:1179 rec.arts.anime:9174
From: deloura@noaapmel.gov (Robert DeLoura)
Newsgroups: alt.manga,rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Is Ranma 1/2 really ending?
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:55:49 GMT
Organization: NOAA/PMEL, Sand Point Way, Seattle, WA

Well, they do seem to have gotten at least ONE character out of the way
already.  That guy (Sentarou?) who practices "kakutou sadou"  (Martial Arts
Tea Ceremony) has proposed marriage (not unusual for him) and been accepted
(now *that's* unusual) by his counterpart in the family that practices the
"dark side" of kakutou sadou.  That was in episode #112, so hopefully, they
won't do any more kakutou sadou episodes.  (Good!)

(Weren't all those parentheses fun?)

I'll probably post Ch 7 of the Nabiki Iinazuke story tonight... it would have
been posted this past weekend, but our Unix system has been down since Friday
night, and was just rebooted an hour ago.  Made it real hard to post.

--Robert DeLoura
deloura@noaapmel.gov
(An entirely too-fanatic Ranma 1/2 fan)