HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sga@cray.com (Steven G. Anderson)
Subject: S.1002
Reply-To: sga@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:09:26 CDT


For those of you wondering the fate of this bill, I received a letter from
Senator Durenberger last week regarding the bill.  The text of the letter
follows:


September 22, 1992

Thank you for contacting me concerning S.1002.  I appreciate your taking the
time to share your views with me.

As you know, S.1002 amends the Federal criminal code to include leaving or
remaining outside a state for the purpose of avoiding payment of child support
as a Federal criminal offense.  In addition, it specifies that an absence of
six months without payment creates a presumption of intent to avoid arrearage
payment.

I understand some of your concerns with this legislation.  I believe continued
discussions must focus on solutions to inherent problems in child support
enforcement.  We must begin to provide more postive incentives for parents to
assume financial and emotional support for their children.

S.1002 passed the Senate by voice vote on September 18, 1992.  Again, thank you
for taking the time to express your views.  It is a privilege to serve you in
the United States Senate.

Sincerely

Dave Durenberger.



As you can see the bill passed.  My personal opinion is that our letter
writing campaign was partially effective.  The Senators were afraid to
let their constituents know how they voted, so they opted for the easy way
out and took a voice vote.  Neat and clean.  The radicals get what they want
and the Senators are not personally accountable.

Steve Anderson			(235 more days of indentured servitude)
sga@cray.com

Xref: sparky alt.child-support:3484 alt.parents-teens:1297 alt.bbs:6501 alt.basement.graveyard:6 alt.kids-talk:1044
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan)
Newsgroups: alt.child-support,alt.parents-teens,alt.bbs,alt.basement.graveyard,alt.mothers,alt.kids-talk
Subject: Internet Survey
Keywords: survey
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:58:33 GMT
Followup-To: alt.child-support
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



Hello Netters!

The following is a survey on Internet users and usage.  I am
conducting this survey as part of an assignment for a graduate
course in telecommunications.

I would appreciate it if you would take a few minutes to answer
these questions and return them to me via e-mail.  Please do
not post your responses.  Send e-mail only.

Thank you,

Susan Hagan

---------------------------->Begin<---------------------------------


1.	What is the Internet?

2.	What is your primary use for the Internet?

3.	How were you first introduced to the Internet?

4.	How did you learn to use the Internet and what do you do when you
	have a question about Internet use?

5.	Would you say that you can, provide you have the time, log in:
		a)  any time, day or night?
		b)  during business hours?
		c)  after business hours?
		d)  by appointment only?
		e)  when a computer lab is open?

6.	How often do you log into the Internet?

7.	How many newsgroups do you read regularly?

8.	Are newsgroups your primary source of information or do they 
	supplement information from other sources such as library 
	materials and newspapers?

9.	Do you pay for your news feed?  If so, how are your charges calculated?

10.	To the best of your knowledge, is your Internet use monitored
	in any way by your employer?

11.	How old are you?

12.	Are you male or female?

13.	What is your occupation?

14.	What is the highest level of education you completed and what 
	was/is the focus of your studies?

------------------------------------>End<------------------------------------
-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
Newsgroups: alt.child-support
From: liberk@jacob.its.rpi.edu (Katherine Libertucci)
Subject: another shooting
Reply-To: liberk@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:00:54 GMT

	Just heard on the radio that a man shot and killed 5 people in the
Watkins Cty Social Services Office. This is located in upper New York state.
	The reporter said the man was distressed at the amount of child support
he had to pay. He was quoted as saying he was " Paying too much for too long"
	This is what Jacobe and Meyers should show on their commercials in-
stead of the crap I just saw on T.V showing this guy dressed to the teeth
complaining that this law firm keeps bugging him for more $. What a poor
representation of fathers ( IMHO)
	I hope that firm's lawyers forget their bullet proof vests someday!
Xref: sparky alt.child-support:3435 alt.dads-rights:2425 soc.men:17416
From: danielle@micro.caltech.edu (Danielle Sanine)
Newsgroups: alt.child-support
Subject: Looking for information
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:52:03 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: helper.systems.caltech.edu

I am a new reader of this group and I, too, am curious as to
its purpose?  I was hoping to find an informative discussion
of the issues which impact us all.  It is easy to cry victim
and denigrate anyone's opinion you don't agree with by crying
"you haven't been there", but the truth is we are ALL impacted
by the unfairness of the judicial system toward non-custodial
parents.  This includes not only those single parent who don't
get the child support they have been awarded, the kids who
often lose contact with a parent they love, the non-custodial 
who is devastated financially and emotionally, but also
anyone crazy enough to marry us, and any future children we
may have. Yes, I did say "us" and "we".  I, too, am a non-
custodial parent paying a punitive amount of child support 
to an ex-spouse who earns alot more than I do and who already
receives over $500.00 per month in Social Security benefits 
for his kids from their deceased bioligical mother. While
I do not, for one minute, regret adopting my kids, I do 
think it is incredibly unfair that I am liable for child
support to someone who does NOT need it, does NOT use it
for them, and already receives aid for them.  I was divorced
in WA state so I also have the pleasure of being forced to
pay for my portion of their college education, even though
I have ALWAYS believed that kids should pay most of their
own college costs. 

I do not believe these issues are solely "men's issues" anymore.
Instead of wallowing in bitterness and anger (I certainly did my
share!), I urge all of you to get involved and try to change the
system.  I worked with a lobbyist in Olympia, WA that was fighting
for non-custodial parent's rights and he and his supporters were
able to accomplish a great deal - like a 25% reduction in child
support payments for middle-class and above people - in a state
that has the toughest anti-noncustodial parent laws in the US.

To those who will claim it's men who are the victims, check
out the statistics on how non-custodial FEMALE parents are
treated.  This is NOT a male-only problem, I assure you. 
I was hoping that the non-gender specific title of the 
group, alt.child-support, meant that it wasn't another macho
woman-bashing hate fest, but after reading quite a few articles
I am not sure!  I am interested in finding out what is being
done/can be done to overturn the discriminatory law that 
REQUIRES that we pay for our children to go to college and
what is being done/can be done to make the RECEIPT of child
support taxable, not the payment of it!  After all, it isn't
exactly discretionary income to us!  If this group is the
right place to post this, great.  If not, could some kind
soul please point me to an appropriate group?

Thanks in advance,

Danielle
danielle@systems.caltech.edu
From: noraa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (aaron.l.hoffmeyer)
Newsgroups: alt.child-support
Subject: Deadbeat Dad Kills Five
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:20:57 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


        (WATKINS GLEN, New York) -- A gunman shot and killed four women
Thursday in the Schuyler County Department of Social Services office in
Watkins Glen... and then killed himself. Schuyler County Sheriff Michael
Maloney says John T. Miller of North Ridgeville, Ohio, walked into the
child support office at the county courthouse and opened fire with a 9
millimeter pistol. Police say Miller's victims were Florence Pike,
Denise Vanamburg and Phyllis Caslin of Watkins Gen and Nancy Wheeler of
Montour Falls. Police say Miller had a history of being arrested for
NON-payment of child support.

Source: UPI-Radio, Oct. 15, 1992

Is there any more definitve information out there on this case?  I've
heard that the man left a suicide note.  Maybe in the suicide note
he gives his justification for doing what he did.

Aaron L. Hoffmeyer 
TR@CBNEA.ATT.COM 

From memory.... "it was a mean ol' judge, took everything I had.  Took
the house, took the Cadillac too.  Took the kids, money in the bank,
took everything.  Stripped me naked." 
	-- John Lee Hooker, "Stripped Me Naked"
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn
From: dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker)
Subject: [blade] Meshtak talks to the drow woman
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:59:50 GMT

Meshtak is still clad in his shadowy cloak, but it is apparent from the
way he shuffles back and forth that he is distrustful of this drow woman.
The legends that filtered to the draga herders concerning drows did not
paint them in a very good light. He is also concerned about Chip's story
about the mutations that were now wandering the streets, but decides Blade
must come first. He looks toward the dark elf. "Hey, we were just going to 
see Blade...you want to come with us? Then you can talk to Trawm, or whoever,
maybe get something done...huh?"

Meshtak the Draga
-- 
"You can't help that. We're all mad here."-The cheshire cat, Alice in WL

"A mass hysteria/a megalomania/reveal Dementia/reveal"-Metallica
From: v124jw4y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn
Subject: Re: [Blade] Meshtak leaves to question Blade
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:25:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct13.232916.12486@cheshire.oxy.edu>, dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker) writes...
>Meshtak finishes his ale, and gets up. "Okay, I'm going to go to the Spitting
>Cobra and question Blade. Anyone want to come with me?" He stands, considers,
>and then walks over to one of the dark cloaked patrons in the corner. "Hey,
>can I rent your cloak for a moment?" He offers the figure an object from
>his pouch, an object that reads in strange letters "Sony Walkman." The figure
>takes the walkman, and gives Meshtak his cloak...however, upon removing his
>cloak, it is revealed that nothing in fact was under it. Meshtak shrugs and
>takes the cloak. Wrapped up in it, he looks like another shadowy figure.
>He surveys the inn again. "Anyone coming with me?"




Arcadio finished his drink and says, "Why not? Nothing better to do...Aramus,
you want in on this?"  He looks at Meshtak and says, "Hmmm...stealthy approach,
eh?  I can handle it."  With that, he pulls a bright electric-blue cloak with 
silvery lining out of his sack and pulls it on.  "Let's go!"
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn
From: tkelly@unix2.tcd.ie (Mithrandir)
Subject: A New City
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:09:38 GMT

   Magira
  --------
   The ancient city of Magira lies far to the North of Generica on the
Coasts of the Great Blue.It is so far north that the sea in the area is
usually frozen over,especially in the winter.However,due to certain
magical forces,the area eenjjoys a pleasant subtropical climate and good
weather.Magira is a city of magicians.It is ruled over by the Council of
Nine,and has been for many years.The laws of the City definitelt favour
Wizards above all else.No normal man is evven allowed into the city
unless he is sponsored by a wizard living there.The laws also forbid
fighting by mmagical means.If this occurs,both participants are swiftly
killed.
  The city is devoted to the study and practiice of magic around the
world.They have no aspirations of Empires,such is not the way of the
mages at all.No,they consider themselvees scholars of the highest
degree.Most of the food of the city is bought with either magic services
or straight cash,and transported to the city through magical means.
  The organisation dedicated to magical study is the Academy.The Academy
is by far the most powerful institution in the city,and all wizards are
mmembers of it.The Council of Nine is eleceted from among it's mmost
honoured members.Visiting wizards are expected to present themselves to
the Academy,by law.It is a well respected institution,and many of
the world's most powerful mages,including the legendary Sorceror
himself,come from it's ranks.
   The normal population is very small,usually slaves of wizards who
desire such things.They are in no position to rule or revolt, because
without the wizards,the city would quickly become what it once was, an
arctic wilderness.
   
      This city is reserved by tkelly@unix2.tcd.ie (Mithrandir)
          e-mail me before wanting to use it.


--
>>>[Mithranidir]<<<  >>>[tkelly@unix2.tcd.ie]<<<

 "I hate it when they aint been shaved ",Severn from Near Dark.
  
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:41:14 GMT
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn

Oops! My apologies for posting my previous "Please Help" survey to this
group. It was an honest mistake and won't happen again.

Kingsley
From: mcutter@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn
Subject: [G]  Thorr-kan, Taking care of business
Date: 10 Oct 92 03:02:25 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

Thorr-kan throws his prisoner to the ground.  Looking about he deems
none of his companions in need of assistance.  He reaches up, calling
Gleep to his side. "Scout the area, my little friend.  Report back
anything unusual."

Suddenly, a commotion arises across the battlefield.  Fire erupts, and
Glysten shouts something.  But before anyone can react, Traveller conks
him on the head with his staff.

The White Minotaur shifts his halberd to his back, reaching into his 
backpack for a length of rope.  He proceeds to tie up the prisoner and
go about making CERTAIN all the other lizardmen are dead.  Traveller's
remark of "better late than never" causes Thorr-kan's eyes to narrow. 
He begins to say something, but then pauses and sneers to himself. 
These are just humans.  And they know nothing of me or my history.  I
will *not* pass judgement on them until they are given a chance to prove
themselves.
 
After the lizardman is secured, Thorr-kan goes to check on Glysten.  Seeing 
that he is not needed, the White Minotaur corners the man with the skull
and cross-bones.
 
"What happened before my arrival in battle?...."
 
-Thorr-kan, the White Minotaur, and Gleep, the pseudo dragon.
From: jgreene@dorm.rutgers.edu (Jeffrey Greene)
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn
Subject: [Ga] [ADMIN:] Hello?
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:38:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Is it just me, or have there been NO additions to this thread recently?
-jak
From: jgreene@dorm.rutgers.edu (Jeffrey Greene)
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn
Subject: Re: [Ga] Advertisements and Allies
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:33:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

344LWKC@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (Mike Sander) writes:

>Jon (jgreene@dorm.rutgers.edu) says:
>>"I am sure you understand, that by your actions to gain my trust, you have
>>proven yourself unworthy of it."

>Brent's visage tightened. Normally, he might have found ethics lessons
>from a thief humorous. But although one couldn't call him lawful, he also
>far from liked being blamed for something he didn't do. He had proven the
>worth of his word was high before. Trying to be as calm as Zebron had seemed
>about the impersonation, he spoke:

>"I am glad most things meet your approval, but you are wrong about my
>loyalties. I've never broken a vow or alliance!"

>"The guard? Well, they asked me to check the reason behind the bodies, not
>anything dealing with Jaq as much. And my actions should show that it was
>easier to DISconnect you from Jaq than prove you were he. Although I wonder
>what would happen to me if I HAD positioned myself opposite you, what with
>this group of people behind you."

>"The guild? They ask for nothing more than the odd bit of information, plus
>the occassional 'discouragement' for those who go outside their laws. They
>expect me to start about as much as the guard does."

>"And that will tell you that your comment about me always looking to benefit
>myself the most was wrong. Last night's escapade benefitted you and charity
>more than I. All I received was a favor which I expect you'll want to repay
>--even to someone as supposedly 'disreputable' as me--, some breakfast, and
>a 'souvenier'. Heck, the guild's not even as worried about Jaq since I told
>them taht I got the impression he was leaving things alone, at least for a
>while, in Generica."

>Brent picked up the advertisement, which had made its way around the room
>during the conversation. "And speaking of leaving and Guilds, I could easily
>head you to the Cartographers Guild today."

>Brent paused, hoping all of this would work out. "So, what's the story? What
>do you decide? And oon't forget about our newcomers, here:", he said, pointing
>towards Simon and Phillipe, "I'm sure they have soemthing to say!"

"But first, my friends, I must speak my mind," says Zebron, a cold, icy look
in his eyes.

"By his schemes, Brent has attempted to show his loyalty to us.  By his
actions, he has proven his skills.

"However, all that remained to be questioned was his honor, which he just
defended.  As only one who is honorable would care to protect his honor, he has
proven this as well," the dark elf continues, his tone softening and a grin
spreading across his face.

"I, for one, would be honored to have Brent at my side, and will vouch for him
in all matters."

Dusk agrees, cawing and flapping his wings.

"However, what of these two?"  queries the drow, turning to them and putting 
on his best 'evil-dark-elf' look.

-jak
From: fannicm@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn
Subject: ADMIN:  Need some reposts, please!
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:09:14 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

-- 
   Do to a fairly serious screw up on this end, I find myself unable to
read a few of the more recent messages and I was wondering if I could get a
repost??!!epost??!!!??  Please??!!!??

The messages are:  (These are not complete titles)

ADMIN:  The Shunrunners
ADMIN:  Glossary of Buffspeak
[Blade] The Temptation of Mechatack,

   Thanks in advance, and sorry for the trouble....
-----
Master Hawk
Leader of the Night Parade

   "And it shall come to pass that what men made shall be shattered, and
the Shadow shall lie across the Pattern of the Age, and the Dark One shall
once more lay his hand upon the world of man."
                              -from The Karaethon Cycle:
                               The Prophecies of the Dragon.
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn
From: dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker)
Subject: [blade] Meshtak sees the merman
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:45:49 GMT

Meshtak walks in and sees Indigo, and hears the last of Indigo's speech.
"Excuse me." he says, approaching Indigo. "I'm one of the guys that fought
that knife-covered thing...he was after me, for some reason, and showed he
was willing to off anyone that got in his way. We figured that if we sunk him
he would be too heavy to come back...anyway, he must've come from the sea
anyway...seeing as how he was covered with seaweed and salt water...and his 
trail of destruction back-tracked to the docks. We just returned him to where
he came from."

Meshtak the Draga
-- 
"You can't help that. We're all mad here."-The cheshire cat, Alice in WL

"A mass hysteria/a megalomania/reveal Dementia/reveal"-Metallica
From: choir@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Robin Choi)
Newsgroups: alt.pub.dragons-inn
Subject: A new Adventurer
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:32:36 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Note: A another copy of the first post, since I messed it up. Sorry guys

        As the last light of the day starts to fade into the horizon, the
denizens of Generica, a myraid of different sizes and races, start to hurry
on their ways in search of their homes or to sit by a warm tavern fire.
Tonight was going to be a cold one.  Meanwhile a lone hooded figure wrapped
tightly in a grey weather-beaten travelers cloak, eyes a particular building
across the street.  Noticing the warm glow that emanates from its windows
and the aroma of a good meal, the figure moves toward the establishment.
Moments later the doors of the Dragon's Inn slowly opens.  the figure at 
the door attracts little attention.  Still wrapped in the cloak, he slowly
walks over to an early spot at the bar, and from time to time, the figure
indulges in the sights and sounds of the inn.  In a moment the barkeep
arrives and asks "what would you like?".  The figure replies "have you got 
anything hot, and filling?, I'm pretty hungry at the moment".  With a nod the
barkeep says "just got a full pot of stew, steaming back in the kitchen". 
With that the barkeep leaves to the kitchen.
          The figure turns around a notices the strange configuration of
the inn.  In all of his times, which is not say very long, he had never
seen such a peculiar occurence.  He thought to himself 'this place indeed is
a very unusual city'.  As other thoughts pass through his mind, something
catches his sight, and walks towards a posting board.  He quickly scans 
through the various posts and finally pulls one off.

|--------------------------------|
|                                |
| Moriarty Investigations,  Inc. |
|                                |
|    Magic and Muscle at your    |
|  service! No problem too large |
|  or small! Reasonable rates!   |
|                                |
|   15A-Gamma Cor Coroli Lane    |
|     Just off the Arcade of     |
|      Unforgotten Heroes!       |
|--------------------------------|


The figure tucks the bill in his cloak, and sees that a plate of steaming
food lies on the bar table.  As the figure was finished with the wholesome
meal,  he waited for the barkeep to come over.  When he did arrive, the figure
asked "can you point out to me where I can find the Arcade of Unforgotten-
Heroes?".....

Robin Choi aka Choir
(choir@eniac.seas.upenn.edu)
From: mrhyde@netcom.com (Mr. Hyde)
Subject: ADMIN: alt.pub.dragons-inn & alt.dragons-inn = TWO GROUPS!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:31:38 GMT

First came ... 

>>This is a list of the current characters in Dragon's inn, in alphabetical
>>order, and some of the information that any alert character could pick up. 
>>This list is intended to extend the ones submitted by Mike Connor titled
>>[Character List]

then this follow-up...

>ADMIN:  
> Am i missing something here? Has anyone heard of any of these people? Are
>there two Dragon's Inn's, or what? If there are two, is it possible to keep
>them separate, please? This is extremely confusing... 

YES, there are TWO Dragon's Inn's. The "other" one is quite small and has
more of a Callahans feel to it. Not everyone may be getting it at their
sites. For the most part these two groups have remained separate (and 
should!). But just recently we had two (accidental) postings to the "wrong" 
group. I have sent mail to those individuals, and hope they correct their
news/posting software/files. Not that they would not be welcome here in
our Dragon's Inn, but it would be nice if their posts reached the groups
they were intended for.

ZENITH, keeper of one of the "other" character lists

  


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