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From:         "ANDRE FRANK: FRANK@MECAN1.MAINE.EDU" <frank@ELVVS1.TUWIEN.AC.AT>
Subject:      RE: ACSM/ASPRS meetings, New Orleans, February 1993

i am not sure if acsm/asprs annual meetings are that much fun - except
that it would provide a reason to go to new orleans (which i alwasy
wanted..).
how was your experience in arizona? worth wile?
andrew
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From:         Warren Brigham <brigham@WUB.IGIS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      EMAIL address update & request for information
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My EMAIL address has changed from
      brigham@denr1.igis.uiuc.edu
to
      brigham@wub.igis.uiuc.edu
Not only is this two letters shorter, but it gets me around forwarding
problems, which never seem to be solvable. Could you please update me
in your "multiple recipients" list?

A favor...I'm looking for the EMAIL address of Matt MacGranahan
(spelling??), a geographer at the University of Hawaii. Any help would
be appreciated.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 92 08:47:55 EDT
From:         Robert Braham <RMB@CUNYVMS1>
Subject:      Re: Blum's UMB+Hyperdsk+Tansi+Windows+NB
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Itamar E-Z writes:

>Blum's UMB manager adds not only UMB memory, but also 64K of
>conventional (low) memory (i.e., 720K instead of 640), more
>UMB (about 180K), more XMS, and MORE SPEED. Emm386 makes the
>system slow down. I have distributed a lengthy doc on this
>list with more details on Blum's UMB, and how to configure
>addresses for it.

Blum himself in his doc says not to use EMM386.exe, rather to
use _his_ driver which is distributed (at least from my local
BBS) w/i the same zip package.  The trouble is, the combo of Blum+Blum
doesn't seem to work with Hyperware, a package I am _very_ pleased
with.  Pursuant to suggestions from Itamar and Paul, should I
define C000-C4000 as my "base" page area, and then cause UMB
to "ignore" that with a - sign in the 9th and 10th slot of the/M switch?;
moreover, what should I tell the AMI advanced-chipset
BIOS routine for those areas: shadow disable or enable? (I initially
disabled all shadow ram, per I E-Z's instructions--which means that
that RAM is made available for UMB, right?.

I do know that the relation of /M switch and the BIOS settings is
critical: I've never seen my machine do such strange things when
dying: screaming beeps, pretend-to-work then give "stack overflow,"
etc.

Let me add that I appreciate the help you are all giving
on this subject, one apparently bigger than I can chew.


Robert Braham
Internet: RMB@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 92 11:18:22 EDT
From:         granade@OBU.ARKNET.EDU
Subject:      Dibs, Dubs, Drift & Flames
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"Serious drift, Mr. Sulu!"
"Aye, Sir.  It's our proximity to the Anticipated 27th."
"Correct, Mr. Sulu!"
"But Sir, we can't correct with raised shields!  If we're to flame Harris
we can't resist the drift!"
"Are you questioning my orders, Mr. Sulu?"
"No Sir!"
"Then flame away!  Once Harris is destroyed the drift will cease!"
"Aye, Aye, Sir!"

A.  I'm Alabamian by birth and rearing, Arkansan by two-decade adoption.
Tho' the Southeastern experience may make "dibs" preferred, that's what
I hear in this neighborhood too.  The former's a geographical difference,
placing me on Emory's western border; the latter may be geographical between
AR and LA, or it could be chronological (tho' I hear "dibs" from young and
old here).

B.  Perhaps they say "dubs" in LA because they can't spell expressions any
better than they can names!

ray grAnade :-)

PS  Actually, the most apt expression from my youth for this occasion is
probably "Christmas gift" (or CHRISTMAS GIFT, in deference to Peter Binkley)--
or am I too cynical?
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 92 22:58:25 EDT
From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Orbis Bugs & Fixes!
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For those of you with the NB4/Lingua pre-release version, I learned of
a fix for Orbis indexing problems today.  This beta version of Orbis
*will* index your textbases properly, but only if you change to the NB
program directory before you start it.  It doesn't matter where the
files to be indexed are, what matters is that your current directory
be C:\NB4 (or whatever directory you installed the programs in).

Another small bug that will make your index files slightly larger than
expected--the omit list was inadvertently left out of the distribution
files for the pre-release version.  This version of Orbis will
therefore index *every* word in the text base if you use all words as
key words.

Both bugs are already fixed, and the version to be shipped with
NB4/Lingua production release will work properly in these regards.

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:17:54 EST
From:         Dorothy Day <DAY@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: NB 4 File formats
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Allan,

My understanding is that the conversion system to be provided will
work both ways, both to import and export the alternate file formats.
I haven't seen the module yet, but have worked with WFW itself for
several years.

I haven't consulted my local entrails reader, but my sources tell me
the disks are in duplication and preliminary documentation was due back
from the press earlier this week. Hewever, recent news stories about
Postal Service performance temper my expectations of when anything
will land in my mailbox...

Dorothy Day, Indiana University
Bitnet: DAY@IUBACS
Internet: day@ucs.indiana.edu
=========================

>By "currently offered formats" do you mean on the file export options? Will
>nb4 with the WFW add on be able to import wordperfect 5.1 documents as fully
>formatted NB4 documents also?
>
>I supposed "wait and see" is now the appropriate answer. A colleague called
>NBI today to see if he could still order the nb3 to nb4 upgrade using the
>recent newsletter. He was told yes, and that NB4 is shipping "this week."
>
>As far as I know, this is the first time NBI has cited a shorter wait that it
>had previously. The consensus among NBI entrails readers is that this means
>something.
>
>Allan Needell
>National Air & Space Museum
>Smithsonian Institution
>Washington, DC 20560  (BITNET: NASSH100@SIVM)
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 92 15:52:43 EDT
From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: beta 4
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Buford Norman writes:

> ...  And about how much free memory
> should I expect, before running speller?  I get anything from 115 to 150 or
> so, depending on how I configure SC and other programs I run (123, ProComm).

With NB4/Lingua I get 245 K free before loading the speller, 235 K
free with the speller loaded.  This is under OS/2 in a DOS window.
Under DOS 5.0 on a 386 I would expect to be able to get around 240 K
free with a little tweaking unless there were something about my
system that really gobbled memory.  Earlier versions of DOS would
provide smaller amounts of memory, as would machines with less
capable processsors than the 386.

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:05:00 EST
From:         STRAUSS@UNCA
Subject:      Nok Hockey
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For you punch ball devotees, has anyone seen a place where Nok Hockey
can be purchased?  It is a table top game with little hockey sticks
and a "puck" and with corners blocked and a diamond block in front
of the goal mouth.

Saw one in Texas in the early '80s, but I blew the chance.
Thanks for any help.

**************************************
**           Bob Strauss            **
**         Ramsey Library           **
**          UNC-Asheville           **
**       Asheville, NC 28804        **
**       Strauss@UNCA.bitnet        **
**     Strauss@uncavx.unca.edu      **
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:35:00 EST
From:         DICK@SIENA
Subject:      Software Bridge vs Word for Word
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My wife is a solitary NB user at GE and needs a good translation package. She
does mostly scientific writing. She doesn't use footnotes likes us artsy people
since she has real data (relax, just kidding). She's getting both Software
Bridge and WFW. Are they both equally good? She has to transfer a lot of stuff
to Mac Word since most of the secretaries use MACs. I suggested  doing the
transfer on a 3 1/2 diskette formatted for 760K, since I believe they can be
read on the MAC. Will the MAC easily read a NB documented translated to MAC
Word on a DOS diskette? Can a secretary just copy it off the diskette onto the
MAC harddrive and then treat it as a simple MAC Word document? I think life is
more complicated than that. I wonder what will happen to mu's and degree signs?
Any thoughts?
        Michael Dick
        DICK@SIENA
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM>
Subject:      Re: SHIPPING NB 4.0
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From: Allan Needell

In New Jersey, where I grew up, the other side to "DIBS" was "CHIPS," as in
"No chips on the window!!" which was to be yelled as the baseball approached
the plate glass on the neighbor's second floor. So expressed, you were not
liable. Given those I've informed about the wonders of the upcoming NB4, I
think before it arrives, just for safety, we might all yell "NO CHIPS". Of
course I hope, and expect???, the ball will bounce harmlessly off the shutters
and that NBI will be put down as having hit a home run.

Allan Needell
National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, DC 20560  (BITNET: NASSH100@SIVM)
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 92 11:31:45 -0500
From:         Kenneth Salzberg <ksalzber@HAMLINE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Message subjects
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Odeda:
	Message subjects can be edited with "reply" only with difficutly
with our (antiquated and user hostil) mailer (we have to hit the "r"
key, then go into vi to edit, rather than just typing away, and then out
of vi to send.  Usually, if I want to change the subject, I'll start a
new message, typing (or copying, with DV's cut and paste function) the
address, then the subject, then the message.  I can understand those who
just hit the r key and type away, though it would be nice if they didn't.

-fKen
From: djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum)
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Subject: Re: Blum's UMB+Hyperdsk+Tansi+Windows+NB
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:23:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <0095E26B.EBAB72DA.30628@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu> 
RMB@CUNYVMS1 (Robert Braham) writes:

>Windows will come up and be ended without any trouble in enhanced
>mode; but when I call NB, and then quit from it, the system freezes
>with bands across the desktop display, requiring a cold boot.

When I first installed EMS in my 286, everything worked swimmingly
_except_ when I had to exit from NB; on those occasions, the system
would lock up hard, requiring a hardware reset. I was using 4dos
and swapping to EMS, and I determined that NB overwrote my EMS page
frame. This didn't cause any problem within NB itself, but when I
would exit NB, 4dos would be unable to unswap itself from the area NB
had trashed. Moving my page frame up from the c000 segment to c400
cured the problem.

At my request (well, more like insistence), Dragonfly reviewed their
code and insisted that they weren't writing to any addresses they
shouldn't be. I think they are mistaken and that the symptoms speak 
for themselves.

I have nothing to suggest beyond steering clear of various upper
memory addresses and seeing if it helps. I harbor a hope that
NB 4 will have fixed the problem; Dragonfly doesn't know that it
_is_ their problem, but the rewriting that underlies version 4 might
have some beneficial side effects. Of course, my first hope is that
there _will_ be a NB 4 (it's the end of the month - we're allowed to
fuss :-) ).

Best,

David
=======================================================================
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 92 10:15:17 EDT
From:         rstein@PURVID.PURCHASE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Nok Hockey
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              from"STRAUSS%UNCA.bitnet@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL" at Jul 24, 92 1:05 pm

>

>
> For you punch ball devotees, has anyone seen a place where Nok Hockey
> can be purchased?  It is a table top game with little hockey sticks
> and a "puck" and with corners blocked and a diamond block in front
> of the goal mouth.
>
> Saw one in Texas in the early '80s, but I blew the chance.
> Thanks for any help.
>
> **************************************
> **           Bob Strauss            **
> **         Ramsey Library           **
> **          UNC-Asheville           **
> **       Asheville, NC 28804        **
> **       Strauss@UNCA.bitnet        **
> **     Strauss@uncavx.unca.edu      **
> **************************************
>

A great game!  I got one at the local TOYS R US last year (or maybe the
year before).  Good luck.  The one I got was absolutely authentic and just
as you described.


as you described.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 92 11:26:21 EDT
From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Config.sys et cet.
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Michael Dick writes:

> A note to Paul Bodin: I got my config.sys working as you suggested; I
> changed my path to convert all references to NB to NB4 (subdirectory
> where the beta version resides). This morning I typed NB and got NB4,
> so far great. Then I typed F1 to get the menu to download a printer.
> As soon as I typed F1 the color changed to violet and the border on
> the menu changed to x's. I'm just going to wait until I get the final
> version next week. I might even try reading---books

Michael:

NB4/Lingua's video management is much better and more flexible than
NB3.x's was.  There is always something you can try in a situation
such as this: reload the fonts and video configuration.  This is most
simple to do.  Back out of the help menu with [Esc], then hit
Ctrl+Alt-[Esc] to unload NB4's fonts.  Then hit Ctrl-[Esc] to reload
them and see if that straightens out your screen.

I don't know what caused the weirdness, but this might straighten it
out.

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:23:09 EDT
From:         Joel Lidov <JBLQC@CUNYVM>
Subject:      printing via com3:
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In addition to my normal printer I have a typrewriter which can be run as a
serial printer (very pretty, if slow, output).  I used to run it off Com1:,
using the XONXOFF program NB supplied to set up the port (XONXOFF can take the
same list of parameters as MODE).  My new computer arrived with an internal
modem set as COM1:, the mouse attached to (5-pin) COM2:, and a third port (25-
pin) as COM3:.  But the IRQ for the third port was set to 5 (normally assigned
to LPT2:) to avoid conflict with the modem.  Now the computer (in DOS or NB)
doesn't recognize the port; i.e., nothing happens in response to print
commands (obviously, I changed the port parameter--which XONXOFF has, unlike
MODE--to COM3:).  I can change the IRQ on the card back to 4, the setting
normally shared by COM1 and COM3, but since there is no way to turn an
internal moded off, I assume that that would cause a conflict.  Is there any
way to tell NB or DOS that the IRQ has been changed?

Suggestions much appreciated, though as a last resort I may be able to convert
the typrewriter's interface to parallel.

Joel Lidov
Classical & Oriental Lang.
Queens College, C.U.N.Y.
JBLQC@CUNYVM     (@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU)
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:12:49 EDT
From:         Robert Braham <RMB@CUNYVMS1>
Subject:      RE "dibs" "chips" and stickball
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Since it's come up, the example for "chips" ("no chips
on the window" as the ball hurtles to its destructive
landing) is really quite nice, but almost surely
was unnecessary (what a responsible lot of children
you must have been!).

In New York growing up, most commonly one would have to
claim "no chips on the _ball_," thus ending before-the-fact
the _real_ arguments re damages.  Especially if we
were using the late-lamented Pensy-Pinkies (sigh).

Hope this helps.

Robert Braham
Internet: RMB@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 92 10:54:01 EDT
From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blum's UMB+Hyperdsk+Tansi+Windows+NB
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Robert Braham writes:

> ... Pursuant to suggestions from Itamar and Paul, should I
> define C000-C4000 as my "base" page area, and then cause UMB
> to "ignore" that with a - sign in the 9th and 10th slot of the/M switch?;
> moreover, what should I tell the AMI advanced-chipset
> BIOS routine for those areas: shadow disable or enable? (I initially
> disabled all shadow ram, per I E-Z's instructions--which means that
> that RAM is made available for UMB, right?.

I don't know anything about Blum's program, but I can answer a couple
of questions.  First, the page frame must be a full 64K if you want to
use EMS.  That means for example that if the page frame begins at
C000h it well extend to CFFFh, not C400h.

Second, I have had very good luck on 386 systems in locating the page
frame at E000h.  If you are using a clone that has no ROM at this
address, it will often function withough conflict and give you a lot
of contiguous upper memory to use as UMBs.

Third, I could be wrong but I seem to remember that you are using VGA.
If so, then you won't be able to get both VGA color and the 64K extra
DOS memory that Itamar mentions because your VGA card uses that first
segment of memory above 640K as video RAM.

And fourth, watch out when specifying *any* address below C800h when
you have VGA in a system.  Most of this area is either video RAM or
video ROM on most VGA cards, and trying to use it without taking
precautions is a good way to make trouble.  Some memory managers will
let you use some of it under certain carefully specified
conditions--read the docs carefully and exercise caution when taking
advantage of these features.  They usually work, but they can be very
touchy.

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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From:         R_MELAMMED@FANDM
Subject:      Re: New release date?
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My husband spoke to them yesterday.
He was told "two weeks" was when it would be mailed.
that seems to be their magic time- 2 weeks...
Renee Levine Melammed
SEND

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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 92 06:25:00 GMT
From:         "Mark D. Szuchman, History, Florida Int. Univ." <SZUCHMAN@SERVAX>
Subject:      Re notes and bib export
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To Peter Parisi on how to handle notes and ibid entries for his editor, I
would recommend the safest solution.  That is, send a disk with several files:
 one with the whole ms., one with the notes on a separate file generated with
the EXTRACT option of the foot/endnotes, and a third with the bibliography
generated by Ibid.

We frequently receive mss. on disk with quite an array of word processing
formats, and have generally done well in our attempts at conversion.  I am not
certain, however, of what a conversion program will do with embedded Ibid
deltas.  I am less worried about note conversion, which is, by today's
standards, quite a routine task.

All of which brings me to the subject of file conversion between the Macintosh
environment and NB.  Last week our trusted word-processing conversion program,
Word for Word, was put to the test and, I'm sorry to say, failed.  The
original file was written on a MAC using MS-Word 4.0.  We had it converted on
a MAC to WordPerfect for the Macintosh, and then (after changing the font to
vanilla monospaced Courier) to WP for DOS.  Then I subjected the WP/DOS file
to Word for Word in order to convert it to NB and it crashed when it met some
MAC format residues left -- and understood -- by Word Perfect only.  It of
course bothered me that Word Perfect had, in effect, left some proprietary
understanding of the file, leaving the rest of us unable to access the text
except in Word Perfect.  Breaking the file into very small sections alleviated
but did not eliminate the problem, which presented itself ruthlessly with each
note call.

A colleague then suggested using Software Bridge 5.1 instead of Word for Word,
and, presto, it handled the job of conversion from the WP/DOS format to NB
(which is listed separately among the word processing formats it works with)
with aplomb.  It was then that my suspicion regarding recalcitrant note calls
was confirmed.

In sum, while Word for Word has been extremely good and has failed in the past
only a couple of times, both times the Macintosh was involved, and Software
Bridge has no problems and is equally fleet.

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