HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Labels
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:15:17 GMT

In article <BvAA2J.25v@calvin.demon.co.uk> barrie@calvin.demon.co.uk (Barrie Spence) writes:
> Another, just as bad - A customer (DOS/PC) couldn't restore files from
> backup floppies after a disk crash - he/she had used a magnet to stick
> them against a convenient pipe/conduit next to the desk.

Can you provide information about when and where this happened? Did you
personally observe this? I'd like to find out if this has more than urban
legend status...
-- 
Peter da Silva                                               `-_-'
Ferranti Intl. Ctls. Corp.                                    'U` 
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012
+1 713 274 5180                                   Har du kramat din varg idag?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: csc_ted@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (TED KOUBIAR)
Subject: EMACS editor for  ULTRIX 4.2A
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
X-Lunar-Date: 0 days, 23 hours, 38 minutes since the first quarter of the moon
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:22:00 GMT

===========================================================================

Hello,

I have the emacs-18.58 from (prep.ai.mit.edu) but I am not sure how to put it 
all together!  is there a shell file that you can execute and build the 
editor?

thanks for your help......................

===========================================================================
Ted Koubiar
ted@dt.uh.edu
===========================================================================
Xref: sparky comp.unix.admin:5337 alt.folklore.urban:24662
From: jona@iscp.bellcore.com (Jon Alperin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Labels
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:41:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bellcore

I once (back when I was working in a college computer center) watched in
horror as a newbie computer user tried to put a 5 1/4" diskette in a
machine by very carefully placing his fingers in the round cutout where
the disk showed through, and then inserting the disk in backwards.

Of course, there was also the student who punched 2 holes into the floppy
so they could store it in their notebook binder :-))

Ah.. the good ol' days...

-- 
Jon Alperin
Bell Communications Research

---> Internet: jona@iscp.bellcore.com
---> Voicenet: (908) 699-8674
---> UUNET: uunet!bcr!jona

* All opinions and stupid questions are my own *
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: elling@eng.auburn.edu (Richard Elling)
Subject: Re: suid OpenLook programs
Reply-To: elling@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:31:45 GMT

In article 640@BofA.com, fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters) writes:
> If a setuid/setgid program needs to access libraries outside of the default
> library path then they should be specified with the -L flag at compile time.

FYI,
In SunOS 5.0, this is changed such that there is a run-time library
path which is searched for setuid/setgid executables.  The run-time
path is specified at link-time by either the -R flag and/or by the
LD_RUN_PATH environment variable.  In this case, the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
and -L flag is not used at all.

---
 Richard Elling                          Manager of Network Support
 Auburn University                       Engineering Administration
 richard.elling@eng.auburn.edu   KB4HB [44.100.0.72]  (205)844-2280
From: kchiles@teton.llnl.gov (Keith Chiles)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Printcap for Talaris 1500
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:01:37 GMT
Reply-To: kchiles@teton.llnl.gov (Keith Chiles)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Dear UNIX netland,
  Does anybody have a printcap entry for a 
Talaris 1500 printer.  I have been playing with 
one and can't get it to print correctly.  I only need
to print text for some programmers.  It will be
connected to a decstation.

Thanks in advance,

Keith 
kchiles@arac.llnl.gov
From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Invalid field in /etc/passwd
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:10:20 GMT
Organization: GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


I can't seem to find what's wrong in /etc/passwd but whenever a user
changes his password I get the following error message on console:

Oct  5 09:33:34 rocky passwd[23079]: invalid name field:  "

I looked through all the name fields and can't find anything odd.  I'm
sure it's something that isn't visible.  What are the rules for the
name field?  How can I fix this problem easily?

--
Dave Pascoe
Internet: pascoe@rocky.gte.com
GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
(617) 455-5704
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au (Brenda Parsons - x2403)
Subject: Limiting the use of specific commands
Organization: Prospect Electricity, Sydney
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 08:24:17 GMT

We would like to be able to limit the usage of specific commands on the
system, such as 'rn', 'Pnews', 'cc', 'make' etc

We don't want to run users on a restricted shell since there is a need
to restrict the usage for one subset of users (not all in the same group)
for 'rn' and another set of users for 'cc'.

Does anyone have any utilities or any ideas on how this can be done?

-thanks

brenda

*****************************************************
* Brenda Parsons                                    *
* Currently at Prospect Electricity                 *
* 10 Smith Street, Parramatta 2150, Australia       *
* +61 2 635 0300                                    *
* --                                                *
* parson%coulomb.pcc.oz.au@tmx.mhs.oz.au            *
*****************************************************
-- 
*****************************************************
* Brenda Parsons                                    *
* Currently at Prospect Electricity                 *
* 10 Smith Street, Parramatta 2150, Australia       *
From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: crontab disabled?
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:48:12 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: River Parishes Programming, Austin, Republic of Texas

In article <1992Oct01.203453.14960@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfwpm@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Bill McGown) writes:
>On one system here at EIU crontab has been "restricted" so that
>it is not available to regular users. The reason given is that
>it has the potential to interfere with backups. Is this a real
>concern (i.e., can it do so)? If it can screwup backups is there
>some fix/patch/kludge that can avoid the problem?

Most backup schemes don't work well if processes are altering
data in the filesystems that are being backed up.  This is
probably the basis for their concern.

The solution is to not allow any cron jobs while backups are
being run (I can imagine several interesting ways of doing
this - "kill -STOP <pid of cron>" is just one of them.
-- 
John F. Haugh II           [  TSAKC  ]       UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151    [ DoF #17 ]            Domain: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
From: kchiles@teton.llnl.gov (Keith Chiles)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: SUDO Source
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:49:40 GMT
Reply-To: kchiles@teton.llnl.gov (Keith Chiles)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Dear Netland,
  Would some kind soul mind either
sending me the source to SUDO, or the 
instructions for FTP'ing it.  I am really 
too lazy to type it from a book.

Thanks in advance,  Keith
kchiles@arac.llnl.gov
From: solca1@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: MODEM-Inst.
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:15:02 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland

Hi;

I'am trying to attach a modem to a machine running SYSVR4 since two 
days .My problem is not to attach physically but that unix 
recognise that I have a modem installed on Com2 with bds 300-2400.
The port is installed,I have over sysadm-shell made a Uucp-installation
Menu 'Basic Networking'->'add device'->'add system',a loot of reboot were done 
in the mean time and so on.But know if I want to use the cu command the system
say :can't access Devices(file).
What I looking for is to have the possibility to connect me from my 386machine
at home to a vax,via what kind of software doesn't matter; I would prefer
kermit but I am not close against any suggestion.The modem and transfer if I
use DOS.


Thanks for any answering ..

Jan.

 


Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: jdavis@bordeaux.kpno.noao.edu (Jim Davis)
Subject: Re: SUDO Source
Organization: Blurkmann Planetarium
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:27:43 GMT

In article <137573@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> kchiles@teton.llnl.gov (Keith Chiles) writes:
>Dear Netland,
>  Would some kind soul mind either
>sending me the source to SUDO, or the 
>instructions for FTP'ing it.  I am really 
>too lazy to type it from a book.

Try anonymous ftp to boulder.colorado.edu (128.138.240.1).  Look in
/pub/sa-book/sudo.
-- 
Jim Davis            | "Seeing her rip his heart out was SO romantic."
jdavis@noao.edu      |   -- Clarissa Darling
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: Identifying who's rlogged in
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:24:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.144052.21682@progress.com> tucker@bedford.progress.COM writes:
>I am setting up a facility where multiple userid's from multiple machines
>will be logging into one machine as one user, but I need to identify who
>logged in as this one user (I don't care what machine they came from). A
>couple of us have thought about how best to do this and have all come up
>blank. Have we missed something obvious?  Thanks again!

You could set up log_tcp around in.rshd/in.rlogind, combined with 'ident'
(rfc 931) daemons on the other machines.  The eventual result would be
syslogs from log_tcp looking something like this:

Sep 30 10:28:56 robinson.pop.psu.edu in.rshd[9074]: connect from murchiso@siegel.pop.psu.edu

Look for "log_tcp*" and "pidentd*" in archie.  The latest version of both
can be found at ftp.pop.psu.edu in /pub/src.  I gave a talk on these two
programs last month to our local UNIX admins.  The overheads and references
for my talk are in ftp.pop.psu.edu:/pub/tcp-talk.tar.Z

Setting up this scenario is good not only as a solution to your situation,
but it enables other security features as well.  (Explained in detail
in above documentation)

--Dave
-- 
System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
Emacs is a fine operating system, but I still prefer UNIX. - Tom Christiansen
Xref: sparky comp.unix.admin:5264 comp.windows.x:17212
From: mikey@eukanuba.wpd.sgi.com (Mike Yang)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Xterminal-Server ratio wanted
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:56:26 GMT
Reply-To: mikey@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <BuoGGA.ACp@solbourne.com>, cy@solbourne.com (Cy Foughty) writes:
|> >Hmmm. We have a lot of satisfied customers using HP 9000/7xx hosts and 700/RX
|> >terminals. Solbourne wouldn't happen to make SYMMETRIC MULTIPROCESSOR SERVERS,
|> >would they :-) ?
|> Why I think they do! ;->

I think SYMMETRIC MULTIPROCESSOR SERVERS are a good idea, too.  :-)

|> >I keep seeing "SYMMETRIC MULTIPROCESSOR SERVERS" (all caps); is this some sort 
|> >of registered trademark of Solbourne Computers :-) ?
|> Hey, what a great idea! ;-)

Sorry, but Solbourne can't claim such things all for themselves..

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                 Mike Yang        Silicon Graphics, Inc.
               mikey@sgi.com           415/390-1786
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us
Subject: Re: temparary superuser
Summary: The _right_ way to do it ...
Organization: :
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:00:27 GMT

(I'm stepping into this thread a bit late ...)

In article <kko.717845600@sfu.ca>, kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko) writes:
> vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep28.204606.9071@ecst.csuchico.edu>, helho@ecst.csuchico.edu (Weird!!) writes:
 
> >-   I am not a sys sdmin in my school. I just wanna learn more about Unix
> >-    Is there any way I could do such that I can become a root?
 
> >The easiest way is to go into your garden (or a public park), bury yourself,
> >and wait for enough rainfall. Sooner or later you will become a root. ...

	``You get a good spadesman to plant a small tradesman
	  (First take off his boots with a boot-tree).
	  Then his feet will take root and his fingers will shoot
	  And they'll blossom and bud like a fruit-tree.''
				Wm S. Gilbert & Arthur Sullivan, the
				Nightmare Song from _Iolanthe_.
 
> Or get a good password cracker ...
> S a m u e l

Bite your tongue, Samuel!  Then please swallow it ...

Seriously, if you want to be an admin and have the right to funge things
up badly and to figure out why your new LP filter isn't working and why
the LP scheduler has been leaving debug files around /tmp (anyone got any
ideas?) and why C-news is silently discarding all incoming news (I don't
know how, but it seems to be fixed ...), the simplest way, the utterly
legitimate way, is to buy your own machine and your own UNIX license.  I
don't know that I'd wish it on you, but you might.  Just remember, data
grows to fill available disk--but I don't say anything about the growth
stopping!
-- 
 (This man's opinions are his own.)
 From mole-end				Mark Terribile

 mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us, Somewhere in Matawan, NJ
From: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Help with lost file (PLEASE)
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:05:45 GMT
Reply-To: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Organization: Reading Rehab Hospital, Reading PA

In article <1992Sep25.150251.14331@openage.openage.com> gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:
*grubb@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary A. Grubb) writes:
*
*>By what method are rm'd files retrieved. My understanding that when a rm is 
*>done it only removed the directory link. As long a the physical location of 
*>the file is not overwritten, it can be retrieved. However I do not know that
*>technique. Can any one out there in netland help? Thanks in advance.
*
*Tsk. Tsk.  When you remove a file in UNIX you put the inodes back on the
*free list.  Since the free list is a stack, the next file that was created 
*used those inodes.  Sorry.  
*
*What you needed was a program called Butt Saver by Cactus International.
*This is a program that will retreive removed files off the free list.
*

  Ive wondered about that program for some time now. Since the last inodes
 in (free) are the first out (used), how much use would a program like Butt
 Saver really be? Considering Un*x is a multitasking, multiuser system.

  Anyone have any actual experience with it?

 -Dan
-- 
  Reading Rehabilitation Hospital                 Network Adminstration,
  Dan Schein - Information Systems    __|__       Programming, Parenting,
  RD 1 Box 250                   ______(*)______  Rappelling, and soon...
  Reading, PA 19607                   o/ \o       Sky Diving!

  rehab1!dans@cbmvax.commodore.com -OR- {uunet,rutgers}!cbmvax!rehab1!dans
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: System panic on Masscomp SYSV.2
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:02:07 GMT

I am trying to isolate a flaky problem on a Masscomp running SYSV.2

The cpu is a 68020 and the system has 4M of mem.

Recently the owner of this machine has been experiencing the following panics:

[lancintr] rcv buf ptr out of phase
[lancintr] pkt dropped

panic: mget
system panic: trap type 44


I am suspecting a flaky LANCE ethernet card.  Does anyone know of any  
diagnostic utilities that I can use to give this card a work out to see if I  
can cause a panic???

Anyone else have any ideas of what could be causing the panics??

--
Paul S. Sears                *  sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston    *  suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center *  comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration   *  DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC 
          >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Xref: sparky comp.unix.admin:5317 alt.folklore.urban:24591
From: eradm@brahms.Berkeley.EDU (Erik Radmall)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Labels
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:03:22 GMT
Reply-To: eradm@brahms.Berkeley.EDU (Erik Radmall)
Organization: Xerox

In article <id.C1OT.EV5@ferranti.com>, peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:
|> In article <BvAA2J.25v@calvin.demon.co.uk> barrie@calvin.demon.co.uk (Barrie Spence) writes:
|> > Another, just as bad - A customer (DOS/PC) couldn't restore files from
|> > backup floppies after a disk crash - he/she had used a magnet to stick
|> > them against a convenient pipe/conduit next to the desk.
|> 
|> Can you provide information about when and where this happened? Did you
|> personally observe this? I'd like to find out if this has more than urban
|> legend status...

From some of the TRUE whoppers in the computer biz, this seems almost anticlimactic.

|> -- 
|> Peter da Silva                                               `-_-'
|> Ferranti Intl. Ctls. Corp.                                    'U` 
|> Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012
|> +1 713 274 5180                                   Har du kramat din varg idag?
                                                     Jo, de har jeg.

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
J. Erik Radmall                    | Xerox Corp.
eradm@brahms.wbst845e.xerox.com    | Knowledge-Based Systems Competency Center
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: dulfer@rabo.nl (Cees Dulfer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Application Packaging Tools (repost)
Keywords: packaging pkgadd
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:21:37 GMT
Organization: RABO bank Nederland, Zeist


We are using the Application Packaging Tools (pkgmk,pkgadd,pkgrm)
on an Olivetti LSX 5000, runing SV, release 4.0.
The documentation supplied by the vendor only contains basic
information, which doesn't fullfill our needs. For instance:
"instances" are mentioned, but nowhere is stated how they should
be created and handled.

Does anybody know which functionality is offerred by these tools
and how it can be applied, where we can attend courses on an expert
level and where we can get detailed information (or even spec's).

Please send your responses via email to dulfer@rabo.nl.
Xref: sparky comp.unix.admin:5414 alt.folklore.urban:25010
From: jordan@castor (USENET's Chuck)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Labels
Keywords: I always dreamed Demi Moore would run out of the woods into MY chevy
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:20:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Georgia

In article <RSHOLMES.92Oct6120258@rodan.syr.EDU> rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes) writes:
>Pretty amusing. The model wore a tight t-shirt (with the company logo,
>I believe) and obviously the reader (assumed, with good reason, to be
>male) was expected to stop and (subconsciously) say, "Wow! Nice
>tomatoes!" and then be hooked into reading the ad. Instead your first,
>visceral reaction was, "MY GOD, WHAT'S SHE DOING TO THAT DISK???" Kind
>of spoiled the effect.

And people wonder why we computer science types don't have better luck
with women.  Sheesh.

Chuck "Avoiding any easy references to hard drives because they're too
       obvious" Jordan

-- 
                  Chuck Jordan | jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu
SPY Magazine's 1,000 Reasons Not to Vote for George Bush:
NO 895: He can't remember a single book that has influenced him.
NO 896: He has two middle names.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: dawn <ledbette@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: (none)
X-Redirected-From: watserv1.uwaterloo.ca control@watmath
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:01:45 GMT

Newsgroups: uw.unix.sysadmin
From: snyder@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (PAUL SNYDER [dcs])
Subject: local guide to unix systems administration
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: uw
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:17:33 GMT

I've set up a directory under gopher containing information that will,
hopefully, be useful to people who are looking after the day-to-day
responsibilities of UNIX systems administration.  You can access this
by typing:

   gopher fpg

and selection the "UNIX Systems Administration" entry.

I'm looking for feedback on content, formatting (justification?) and
whether or not its useful having this information accessible from gopher 
(and eventually uwinfo).

p.s. You can also get a hardcopy of the entire document by getting the
intermediate troff output file from the anonymous ftp archives on watserv1.
Its called sysadm/localguide.troff.intr (use the "Ft" option on lpr).
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: hillig@U.Chem.LSA.UMich.EDU (Kurt Hillig)
Subject: Re: Help with lost file (PLEASE)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 16:01:18 EDT
Organization: Department of Chemistry, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor

In article <ASH.92Sep28114826@ulysses.mr.ams.org> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.org (Alan Harder) writes:
>
>   grubb@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary A. Grubb) writes:
>
>  >By what method are rm'd files retrieved. My understanding that when a rm is 
>  >done it only removed the directory link. As long a the physical location of 
>  >the file is not overwritten, it can be retrieved. However I do not know that
>  >technique. Can any one out there in netland help? Thanks in advance.
>
>I know it's too late for this, but I have seen a public domain package
>that replaces rm and has a program named unrm.  The rm replacement
>moves files into a "cemetery" directory.  The unrm program can
>retrieve files from the cemetery.  It is up to the user (or sysadmin)
>to clean out cemetery directories on a regular basis.  

Just add the line

alias rm "mv \!^ ~/garbage"

to your .cshrc file, and create a directory named "garbage" under your
home directory.  No programs are needed.

Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,news.sysadmin
From: wagner@utoday.com (Mitch Wagner)
Subject: net.views -- computer crime
Organization: Open Systems Today
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 21:21:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.questions



                 Do you consider computer crime to be 
                 a threat to your system?


     This question is being posted to gather responses for a regular
 opinion column in OPEN SYSTEMS TODAY called "net.views."

     By posting a response to this topic, you are granting
 permission for OPEN SYSTEMS TODAY to publish your response. A
 compilation of the responses to this post will be posted here about
 two weeks from today.

     Please include in your response your name, your employer, your job
 title, and location. Or, if you identify yourself as a student, please
 give your class standing (freshman, sophomore, junior, senior, grad),
 the school and its location. Please also provide a telephone number 
 where you can be reached during the daytime (overseas readers note:
 that's daytime in North America).

     Please be brief; try to limit your responses to two screens
 (24x80) of text, not including headers and other administrivia.

     Thanks!

                         -- mitch w.
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