From: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de (Stefan Hartmann)
Subject: Re: FREE-ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES
Organization: Puplic-Access-Xenix-System
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 00:49:29 GMT

In <1992Nov6.211512.3589@nmt.edu> houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle) writes:

>>In article <1992Nov4.185407.2123@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>>
>>>               A second type of Free-Energy device, such as the "Gray 
>>>          Motor" (U.S. Patent #3,890,548), the Tesla Coil, and the 
>>>          unpatented motor of inventor Joseph Newman, taps electro-
>>>          magnetic energy by induction from "Earth resonance" 

>	Well,  Joe Newman came to NM Tech yesterday along with a group of
>investors from Albuquerque.  Yesterday,  he got into an argument with my
>thermodyanmics professor and finally got around to demonstrating his
>machine.  He powered it with a neon sign transformer through a stack of
>rectifiers -- ran the wire through a current transformer,  a florescent
>light bulb and finally the motor.  A neon sign that said "Gyro" was mounted
>on the top to "bleed excess charge away".  He then connected an osciloscope
>to the secondary of the current transformer and used that to demonstrate that
>his motor produces very large inductive spikes.  I tried to tell him that
>a current transformer doesn't measure current,  but that it does measure the
>derivative of current,  so it will magnify small changes,  but he started
>getting very defensive.  That night I built a model of his system where a
>small spike (generated with a pulse generator triggered by a sine-wave
>generator) that had amplitude about 1/10 of the sine wave got exageraged by
>the current transformer to the point where the spikes were so big that you
>couldn't see the sine wave (like his motor).

>	He also used a clip-on wattmeter (a very nice one that is claimed to
>read correctly for any phase angle or power factor) to show that the florescent
>light alone consumes 50 watts; 

How did you compare this ? 50 Watts AC 60 Hz is totally different in
brightnes than 50 Watts RF-energy in pulses...
So 20 watts RF-energy can produce the same brightness like 50 Watts AC
110 Volts 60 Hz with the same tube !!!


and when he adds the motor,  the power varies
>from maybe 53 watts to as low as 30.  A quick guess estimated that the 
>average was around 48 watts.  When I put a load on the motor,  the power
>stablized around 42 watts.

Do you mean the DC-input power into the design ?


With the motor running,  the flourescent light
>was flickering,  and since it is being powered by a neon sign transformer,
>I hate to think about how this is changing the power consumption of the
>light.   The next day,  the light alone drew 40 watts,  and the light-motor
>combination drew about 20.  The neon sign transformer by itself drew only
>16!  Funny enough,  the "GYRO" sign on his motor was not lighting up,  and
>I got a slight shock when I touched the shaft (and using a key as a spark
>gap,  I guessed there was about 1000 V on the shaft),  while I didn't the
>day before.  The results with the wattmeter were very interesting,  but
>certainly not conclusive.  Joe Newman has succeeded in building a motor
>that challenges the state of the art in measurement technology -- I wouldn't
>blame him and many other people for being confused and making bad measurements.

>	At this point,  Joe expected us -- an audience of about seven
>investors from Albuquerque (from whom Joe is trying to get $2 million),  one
>professor who stayed a long time,  three lab technicians,  and myself (an
>undergraduate in physics who works for the EE dept.) to be completely
>convinced by the truth of his motor.  When I was asked what I thought,  I
>said that I thought it was a very interesting result,  but very detailed tests
>would be needed:  i.e.,  get something better than a current transformer for
>measuring spike currents (really hard if you are looking at 6000 V circuits -
>maybe could tie your scope across a resistor and look for the voltage drop,
>and hope that no part of the loop ever gets grounded (or you kill your
>scope)),

I killed one with my rebuild Newman motor... :-((



investigate how well the wattmeter works in the presence of spikes.
>The device almost certainly has an attrocious power factor,  so it is good

That is right.. does he still has this RF-wattmeter from Simpson
company ??



>for stealing electricity from your local utility.

>	Anyway,  if all venture capitalists are like the people I met today,
>I think I just might go into industry after I get out of grad school.  The
>people were very enthusiatic about the motor and knew very little about
>electronics,  but at least had enough sense to go to some experts.  One of
>them told us that if we endorsed the motor,  we could become as famous as
>"university of Utah did over cold fusion."  I agreed with that.  They didn't
>seem to know who was in charge here (a motley crew of mostly lab technicians
>and undergrads),  and even seemed to think that I was at one point (offering
>to pay for me to go eat with them at a local mexican restaurant).  They
>ordered a lot of Pizza today,  and also seemed very willing to spend money.
>I suggested testing the thing with a stack of car batteries big enough to
>generate 6000 V (Imagine a source of 6000V at 500 A!  This would actually
>be pretty hazardous) 

Well, I bought about 300 samples of 9 Volt batteries and connected
them all in series...

One day I have got a electric shock and I flew from my chair ! Uff,
touching about 2700 Volts DC is not as nice at it seems... :-)) :-(((



and they wanted to go down to Ace and buy that many
>on the spot (which might take a good chunk out of that $2 million :-)

>	Ultimately,  the people ended up contracting (despite Newman's
>objections) with one of the technicians here to build a device that will
>power the device from a car battery through an inverter and neon sign
>transformer,  and redirect the spikes into a special circuit that will step
>them down and feed them into the battery.


Will be a very good design if you get it to work...

Must have a few very fast very high voltage rectifier diodes in it...

How do you want to rectify this spikes and get usefull DC energy ?


If the battery gets overcharged,
>the power will be fed into a resisitive load in an oil bath (which will
>also contain a stirrer to account for the mechanical energy produced),
>which will then be measured calorimetrically.


Well, this is the only best solution :

Just measure the whole output of the motor calometrically...

I hadn't have the money and the support to do this finnally, but if
somebody will finnally do, we can say, if it is overunity or not...

Best regards, Stefan Hartmann, c/o Ingenierbuero Gatz & Hartmann.
email to:  leo@zelator.in-berlin.de



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