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From: z_falkrg@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.horror
Subject: Re: Cthulhu for Prez!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:06:36 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University


In article <1992Sep27.155010.26701@rchland.ibm.com>, jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
> I just saw a tee-shirt the other day that said
> 
> 
> Why accept a lesser evil?
> CTHULHU for President 1992!
> 
> 
> Jared Dahl
> -- 
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> Opinions expressed are mine, not IBM's.

	I have a button saying

	Cuthulu and Yuggoth in '92
	Consider your alternatives

Rob Falk			She has an IQ of 1001, 
z_falkrg@ccsvax.sfasu.edu       She has her jumsuit on, 
				But she's also a telephone.
					-ELO
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: Ingrid.Towey@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Ingrid Towey)
Subject: Railroad track ghosts
Summary: Ghosts of children on school bus
Keywords: railroad tracks, child ghosts, San Antonio
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:16:28 GMT


I'm afraid this is my last post to this group.  Keep up the 
good work.  Special thanks for the Lyric Theater stories.  
Happy haunting!

As my farewell, I thought I would post a story I remember from 
San Antonio.  This story was often written up in the 
newspapers on Halloween when I was a kid, and I thought I'd 
share it with the rest of the group.  The story might even be 
an urban legend, although my husband and I have only heard it 
attached to one particular area in San Antonio.

There's a spot on the outskirts of San Antonio where a 
railroad track runs in the middle of nowhere.  In fact, no 
trains go over those tracks any more, but the tracks are still 
there.  If you go and park your car on those tracks and put it 
in neutral, your car will slowly move off the tracks *uphill*, 
until your car is completely off the tracks.  If you put baby 
powder on the back of your car, outlines of tiny handprints 
will appear in the powder as if *someone* pushed the car.

Apparently, a bus of school children stalled on the tracks 
quite a few years ago, and was hit by a train.  Many of the 
children died, but their spirits remain to rescue cars left on 
the now abandoned tracks.

(No, I've never been to this spot.)

Ingrid Towey
Native Texan and immigrant to NC

P.S. The whole time I have read this newsgroup (since its 
inception), I have wondered in the back of my mind if _some_ 
ghost stories might really be the activities of demons.  To me 
the existence of demons is as likely as the existence of 
ghosts.  An exorcism or a deliverance might be the most 
appropriate course of action in cases of particularly
malevolent ghosts.



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: toma@hyperion.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Atwater)
Subject: Re: The Lyric Theater
Organization: Code 916, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:38:29 GMT

In article <9210050544.AA01398@news.cis.ohio-state.edu> FURRJK@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>I thank collectively all of you who've posted your compliments about
>the Lyric Theater ghost story here and who've sent me your mail.

Sorry I missed this. (Just discovered this newsgroup.)
Got a copy you could send?

>Why do you suppose the various ghosts, if there are any, are there, rather
>than off in heaven, hell, or wherever the dead go?

Well, maybe after death is not so much different than before, for these
people.
Maybe they are not yet aware that they are dead, because their belief
systems did not permit the possibility of life after death.

So maybe that's why they don't go somewhere else -- they don't know they *can*!

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: cvantwrp@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Cyndi Van Antwerp)
Subject: Re:  Taking Cthulhu out of alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:19:58 GMT

Thank you, Joel Furr for getting rid of the Cthulhu talk.  I am a definite
lurker and sometimes poster to this group and I was getting very frustrated
with the posts of late and felt we had totally gotten away from the 
subject this newsgroup is supposed to be about.

Ghost writing, to my knowledge is when a "spirit" takes over the use
of your arm and writes through you.  As in the case of Bridie Murphy
(if I'm remembering the name right), who wrote several books through
her medium.  If someone else knows a different or better definition
of "ghost writing" I'd be interested to hear it.

I also want to thank you for what I believe to be the best story
posted so far--the one about the Lyric Theater in Virginia.  I
read that story and immediately wanted to go visit that theater.
It sounds like a marvelous old place.

-- 
Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.
					-- John Lennon

Cyndi Van Antwerp
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Posting Responses (Haunted House)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:05:18 GMT

	Everyone,

	Most people don't need to be reminded of this but please edit
out either the whole original post or at least what you are not directly
refering to.  Most people have either read the original post or can go
back to read it if they wish so we don't need it reposted in the response.
This makes it a lot quicker and easier to go through the posts.

								Thanks,
								Peder

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: nml@hq.lcs.mit.edu (Newton Loui)
Subject: A ghost story (or two)
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:31:42 GMT

I suppose the best way to tell my ghoststory is in a straightforward
manner.

Several years ago my mother told me that she had dreamed that my
paternal grandfather had visited her and talked to her; he had passed
away the winter of 1980.  He told her someone had given him two sports
jackets, one he was wearing and the other he carried in his bag.

When she awoke she related the dream to a friend of hers.  The friend
told my mom that grandpa was reminding her to give him clothes!  The
seventh month of the Chinese Lunar Calendar is reserved for
ghosts/spirits.  In that month, the Chinese who choose to follow
customs would burn incense for the spirits.  Also burned were paper
icons of money and clothes for those beyond.  My mother had her dream
in the seventh month.

She knew that my paternal grandmother would not observe the custom,
so, my mother went out to buy the paper clothes and every year she
observes the custom.


Similarly, another friend of my mother told me that she knew a mayor
of some city or town in Texas [read non-Chinese] who dreamed that his
dead brother visited him in a dream.  The brother told the mayor that
all the Chinese had this big party and that he - the dead brother -
wasn't allowed to join.  This mayor asked some Chinese he knew if
there were such a party and he was told that it occurred in the
seventh month of the Chinese Lunar Calendar and what it marked.  He
went out and bought some paper clothes also and observes the custom
every year.

nml

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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Occams razor (was Re: Ghost writing...)
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:12:40 GMT
	<1992Sep21.064300.4065@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>
	<Bv13JJ.AGs@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>
	<1992Sep25.043229.24139@news.columbia.edu>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

In <1992Sep25.043229.24139@news.columbia.edu>, Charles Lasner writes:
>
>Didn't your company make the 3M surgical occams razor?
no, it was th 3-sided occams razor.
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: johnson@ut-emx.uucp (Karen J. Morgan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Halloween
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:28:02 GMT
Organization: U. Texas Center for Space Research

In article <9209300625.AA21644@news.cis.ohio-state.edu> FURRJK@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>Search your
>memories!  Let's get some ugly childhood reminiscences posted to the net.
>
>No, we don't need to bring up the old 'did you hear about the people that
>poison candy on Halloween' UL.  I recall reading in one of Jan Harold
>Brunvand's books that research had shown NO reported cases of either poisoned
>candy or candy with razor blades or needles inside.  The only thing that
>came CLOSE was one particularly evil father who had killed his own son by
>poisoning the kid's candy and then blaming it on anonymous ghouls out
>in the city somewhere.

Okay, I'll show my age here....

I believe that the "Candy Man" incident is *responsible* for all those
other ULs.  I remember well that it happened when I was of trick-or-
treating age in the mid-60s in Mississippi.  After that incident, some
of the fun went out of Halloween because we were not allowed to eat a
lot of the candy that we got.  Even knowing that it was the kid's father
who poisoned him in order to collect on a life insurance policy, my
mother believed that it would give other people "ideas".  Better
safe than sorry, right?  Right, Mom.

ObHalloween:  the older boys who lived across the street from us scared
the pee out of me and my sister.  As if it weren't scarey enough being
out in the dark alone, they hid in the bushes next to their porch and
terrorized us with ghostly noises.  (I confess, I a wimp.)

Karen

P.S.  BTW, the Candy Man is still on Death Row here in Texas, being
supported by my tax dollars.

-- 
        karen@louise.ae.utexas.edu   -or-   johnson@emx.utexas.edu
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From: silk@mcl.ucsb.edu (ken mencher)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.horror
Subject: Re: Cthulhu for Prez!!
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:27:39 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.ghost-stories

In <1992Sep27.155010.26701@rchland.ibm.com> jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:

>I just saw a tee-shirt the other day that said


>Why accept a lesser evil?
>CTHULHU for President 1992!

You can order these from Chaosium, Inc.

Their address is:

Chaosium Inc.
950-A 56th st
Oakland, CA  94608-3129

I think they run for about $14.95 or something around that.


ken

>Jared Dahl

Cthulhu for President

Elder Party - The Stars are Right!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: eiverson@nmsu.edu (Eric Iverson)
Subject: Re: Question about "Winchester House"
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:06:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.150221.59153@cc.usu.edu> sltxh@cc.usu.edu writes:

>     Question? Anybody out there have anything on the famous "Winchester
> House" ?  I would be interested in any references to good books on the 
> subject, or personal experiences, or even just what you've heard.
>
>					Joel

1. Rambo, F. Ralph.
     Lady of mystery / by Ralph Rambo ; edited by William R. Rambo.  [San Jose,
   Calif. : R. Rambo], c1967 (Rosicrucian Press).
     Series title:  Pioneer series no. 1.
       CSL   Main Lib  NA8460 .R3 California
       CSL   Main Lib  NA8460 .R3 California Non Circ

2. Walton, Diana.
     Mrs. Winchester's house of mystery.  [San Francisco, San Francisco
   Chronicle, 1961].
       CSL   Main Lib  NA8460 .W2 California Non Circ

3. [Winchester Mystery House].
       CSL   Main Lib  NA8460 .W56 California

4. Woelfl, Genevieve.
     Sarah Pardee Winchester, a driven woman : her compelling story :
   Winchester Mystery House / by Genevieve Woelfl.  San Carlos, Calif. :
   Redwood Publishers, c1986.
       UCB   Bancroft  pf NA8460 .W6 1986

5. Woelfl, Genevieve.
     Winchester Mystery House : Sarah Pardee Winchester--a driven woman--her
   compelling story / by Genevieve Woelfl.  San Carlos, Calif. : Redwood
   Publishers, c1986 (1988 printing).
       CSL   Main Lib  NA8460 .W63 1986 California Non Circ

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Cthulhu belongs here !
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:55:35 GMT

	What's the big deal, let Cthulhu stay!!!  There is plenty of room
and if you don't want to read a story or comment about him, don't.  Even
I skip most of the articles concerning him but they are still interesting
and could even be considered a ghost story of sorts.
From: rnakkula@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robin J Nakkula)
Subject: Re: Halloween
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:57:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.164939.13657@hubcap.clemson.edu> jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:
>FURRJK@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>
>Incidentally, I went to catholic school when I was a kid and the Nuns
>hated the whole concept of dressing up like devils and told us all sorts
>....
> At the same time though
>they would give us little boxes and ask us to collect for UNICEF while
>we were trick or treating. After you get your candy at each house you
>were supposed to ask them for money for the starving children of the
>world. It was a nice gesture but most people got offended, after all,
>they just gave you free candy and now you want money?!  I always
>thought the nuns dislike of holloween was strange since they also tought
>us that holloween was created by the catholic church many Many MANY
>years ago as All Hollow Eve, the night before All Souls Day.
>
>Jim

I went to Catholic school too, except that at ours, you were supposed to
collect for UNICEF >instead< of collecting candy for yourself.  Sad to
say, I was never capapble of being that altruistic before 8th grade, by
which time I was in the suburban public school instead.

@@@---Robin Nakkula
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: "Haunted Lives" on CBS 9/24
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:09:33 GMT
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com's message of 24 Sep 92 20:12:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.201224.10679@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
   ken@batman.austin.ibm.com writes:

 =}ObNecronomicon: If Cthulhu calls collect, don't accept!

   Why refuse such an honor?  But why wait?  You too can call the
beloved Chtulu's toll free number.  Just chant:

	'Chtulu ftagn' (sp)

until the bloated bugger appears and chomps you down without so much
as a burp...

 =}-------------------------------------------------------------
 =}"... watch from high atop Tokyo Tower as the twisted world
 =}you created explodes in rivers of blood and endless pain..."
 =}    -Tom Servo, announcer, monster action playset commercial
 =}-------------------------------------------------------------

   Sounds like a normal night in Roppongi :)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: lls@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Lori Smallwood)
Subject: Re: Haunted carriage ride
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:59:18 GMT

In article <1ai9gpINNtbf@introl.introl.com> pete@introl.com (Pete Ikusz) writes:
>A few years ago I listened to WLS radio in Chicago, (during this time
>of year) and they were talking about a haunted carriage ride.
>Someone/some company offered this.
>
>Basicly it was a ride that took you throught a number of eleged haunted
>sites in the surrounding Chicago area.
>
>If anyone has any information regarding this please let me know.
>Thanks,
>-Pete
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Pete Ikusz	Introl Corporation	pete@introl.com

Me too, me too!  :)

-- Lori
lls@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.horror
From: jutta@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Jutta Degener)
Subject: Re: Cthulhu for Prez!!
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:50:52 GMT

lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi) writes:
> In article <mumble> kamata01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>> Who is ....
>>> CTHULHU 

>    Great Cthulhu is a monster invented by the horror writer H. P. Lovecraft
> in the 1920s (maybe early '30s - my memory grows hazy).

Also, check out his guest appearance (under the nom de plume of "Ctulhu")
as a member of the Bugtown (-> alt.fan.bugtown) band "The Bulldaggers" in
Matt Howarth's comic book "Savage Henry".

"Nothing is impossible if you have an elder god for a friend."

--Jutta 
Newsgroups: alt.humor.oracle
From: nolan@tssi.com (Michael Nolan)
Subject: Re: Pondering
Reply-To: nolan@tssi.com
Organization: Tailored Software Services, Inc.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:29:21 GMT

bd622@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sten-Erik Armitage) writes:


>Oh great Oracle, I a humble user, not worthy to even consider
>your merest motes have this inquiry:

>Why are there no posts here?

And in response, thus spake the Oracle:

Hello, this is the Usenet Oracle.  I can't come to the net right now, but
when you hear the ping please leave your name, e-mail address, and favorite
XXX rated .GIF.  

If you are still trying to access Me on alt.humor.oracle, please contact
your newsfeed and ask for a subscription to rec.humor.oracle and 
rec.humor.oracle.d, my new 'uptown' addresses.

If you are having trouble reaching Me by e-mail, write to:
oracle@moose.cs.indiana.edu with the word 'help' in the subject.

Thanks for calling and...

Lisa!  Stop that it tickles!  Now I have to make this recording all over
again.  LISA!  Oh!  Well, I guess it _could_ wait for an hour or so....

<ping>
From: rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: NASA Launch Calendar
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:21:14 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Hello Everyone,

Check this out......Looks like NASA is tired of waitng for UFO's, so it
seems they are going to launch their own. Wrote Author of this Calendar,
waiting for response.

 
+     Here's the latest Space Calendar.  If you see any updates to the
+calendar, then please let me know.  Note that launch dates are subject to
+change.

                             =========================
                                  SPACE CALENDAR
                                September 27, 1992
                             =========================

+* indicates change from last month's calendar

+   October 1992
+     ?? - Galaxy 7 Ariane Launch
+>>>>>?? - UFO Atlas Launch
+     04 - 35th Anniversary, Sputnik Launch (1st Satellite ever)
+     05 - Progress Launch (Soviet)
+     09 - Galileo, Trajectory Correction Maneuver 15 (TCM-15)
+     10 - Draconid Meteor Shower (Solar Longitude 197.0 degrees)
+    *10 - Mars Observer, 1st Trajectory Correction Maneuver (TCM-1)
+>>>>>12 - SETI Scanning Begins
+     12 - 500th Anniversary, Columbus Discovers America
+    *12-15 - Galileo, Dual Drive Actuator Test #4 (DDA-4)
+    *12 - DFS-3/Kopernikus Delta 2 Launch
+     15 - STS-52, Columbia, Laser Geodynamics Satellite (LAGEOS-II)
+     15 - Freja Long March Launch (Sweden/China)
+     20 - AUSROC II Launch
+     21 - Orionid Meteor Shower (Solar Longitude 208.4 degrees)

Also note that SETI scanning for ETI begins October 12th, I'll give em a
month or so until they find something. It's election time you
know.........


Rod

             BECKWITH/BECKWITH 92' A vote for me is a vote for myself!

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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: plw@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (White)
Subject: Vallee's Revelations
Organization: Raytheon Company
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:15:46 GMT

Now that Vallee's book Revelations has come out in paperback, I 
picked it up.  Thank God. 

Reading the book has provided a psychological attenuator for 
much of the Cooper/Lear/UMMO/Pleidian/fill in your own fringe group
noise that has threatened to drown any interest I may have had in 
the UFO phenomenon.  

Vallee's interviews and research and his clear writing style take
one through the tangled stories and the hidden agendas of their 
participants.  Vallee's reputation allows him access to these people
that the normal person with an interest in the UFO culture would not
have.  Then he asks the hard questions.

For example, if there is a secret base under Area 51, "Who takes out
the garbage?"  "Why haven't any of the civilian surveying satellites
picked any traces of this base?" etc.

Vallee's conclusion is that disinformation is probably the reason
for most of this noise. Citing the intelligence background of
Cooper/Lear/Moore et al, a vague pattern emerges.  However, the 
reason behind the coordinated feeding and care of the disinformation
campaign cannot be firmly grasped.

So I recommend this book, if you follow this newsgroup and your
kill file is getting larger and larger.

========================================
Paul White
plw@ray.com
My opinions are not those of Raytheon
======================================== 
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors