HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bs@wucs1.wustl.edu (Bala SWAMINATHAN)
Subject: Re: What is LOVE?
Keywords: n
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:08:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.174245.18022@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>1] While this surely is a N.P. complete problem some approximations
>   can be attempted.
>
>   The answer I favour these days:
>
>       Love is transcendance of self.

What is *love*? That may be a difficult question to answer. But when
someone says I-love-you, did you ever care to ask her/him what does
she/he actually mean? Well, what does "I love you" mean?

    I respect you
    I enjoy your company
    I look forward to seeing you
    I miss you when we are apart
    I think of you and it makes me smile
    You are very important to me
    I trust you
    I want to be worthy of your trust
    I value your opinion
    I feel like I could tell you anything about myself
    I want you to be able to tell me anything about yourself

[not necessarily in that order]

    What does "I love you" mean to you?  Have you told your loved one?


Cheers!!
S_Bala

P.S. These "gems" :) are not mine, but were culled else where and
were authored by one Greg Connor of Sonoma State University.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde)
Subject: Girish ??? at NASA/GSFC, Greenbelt, MD.
Reply-To: rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:51:40 GMT


 I am looking for Mr. Girish ??? who is a systems administrator at NASA/
 Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt Maryland. He had sent me mail
 several months ago offering to help me when I am at NASA.

 I need to ask you something, would you please respond to this SOS ?

 Thanks a lot.

 I am really sorry to have misplaced the mail and your last name.

 
 Raghu
From: C087@CPC865.EAST-ANGLIA.AC.UK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian Tribes
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:15:00 GMT


I received the following info about India's Dalit and Tribal Peoples. I am
forwarding the same to Indian news groups for wider circulation.
                             ***********************************
		     		Dr. R.SARIN
		    	 	e-mail address:  c087@uk.ac.uea
                             ***********************************

Original-Sender: Technology Transfer in International Development
 <DEVEL-L@EDU.AMERICAN>
From: Sam Lanfranco <LANFRAN@CA.YORKU.VM1>
Subject: India's Dalit and Tribal Peoples
To: Multiple recipients of list DEVEL-L <DEVEL-L@EDU.AMERICAN>

DATPERS: Dalit and Tribal Peoples Electronic Resource Site

The Distributed Knowledge Project at York University is
involved in the creation of an electronic and physical
resource centre for the study and promotion of the
welfare of India's indigenous Dalit (untouchables) and
Tribal peoples. It will assist the information and
communications work of Dalit and tribal groups, and
support groups, inside and outside India.

The Mission of the Dalit and Tribal Peoples Electronic
Resource Site (DATPERS) is to assist in the accumulation
and dissemination of information for research, policy
formation and social action in support of the Dalit and
Tribal peoples of India.

The initiative has contacts with Dalit groups in Canada,
the United States, England and India, and through those
groups has access to other groups concerned with the
development, welfare and human rights of the indigenous
Dalit and Tribal peoples in India. Such people represent
the poorest and most oppressed one-fifth (200 million) of
India's population.

The purpose of this posting is to:

     1.   Signal the existance of the initiative.
     2.   Ask that the information be distributed to
          interested parties.
     3.   Inform DATPERS of groups we should contact to
          promote collaboration and cooperation.

For the time being the DATPERS address will be my e-mail
address:

          lanfran@vm1.yorku.ca   internet
          lanfran@yorkvm1        bitnet
          lanfranco@web.apc.org  peacenet


Sam Lanfranco, Coordinator, Distributed Knowledge
Project, York University, CANADA

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: Prof. Sam Lanfranco   | Coord., Distributed Knowledge Project at  :
: YCHS - 214 York Lanes | Centre for Health Studies & Centre for    :
: York University       | Research on Latin America & the Caribbean :
: North York, Ontario   |...........................................:
: CANADA  M3J 1P3       | Bitnet:   lanfran at yorkvm1.bitnet       :
:.......................| InterNet: lanfran at vm1.yorku.ca         :
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From: fca00@chennai.ccc.amdahl.com (A. Francis Chandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: What is LOVE?
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:53:37 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

>In article <402@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca>, skataria@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (skataria)
>
>WHAT IS LOVE?
>Can somebody give me a convincing answer.
>

 
     That's your score when you start a tennis game .
     (most of the time it is also my score at the end of the game)
    
     in cricket it is called 'duck'.

;-) ;-) ;-)


                                                 -francis
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: I will close you by my ices --[ The Tiger Cascade ]
Keywords: bye
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:13:13 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Aug21.173245.13865@ugle.unit.no> youhong@solan.unit.no (User) writes:
>I will close you by my ices.
 I will lose you by my dices.


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From: sekar@byron.u.washington.edu (Sekar Thiagarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: IMPORTANT: Information Wanted on Adoption of Orphan Child from India
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:58:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug18.165802.29374
Reply-To: sekar@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Information Wanted on Adoption from India

A childless American couple (good friends) would like to adopt a child
from India.

If you have:

* names and addresses of adoption agencies

* knowledge of Indian rules and regulations

* personal experience or anecdotal information

kindly send email to:	"For Sridhar"    using   sekar@byron.u.washington.edu

Thank you.

sridhar


			
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.portuguese
From: srini@ecf.toronto.edu (KANDALA SRINIVAS)
Subject: Re: Origin of the word 'caste' (was Re: Fair and lovely: Remember that face cream ?)
Keywords: color skin
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:06:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.174317.9784@zip.eecs.umich.edu> bhattach@dip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya) writes:
>
>On a related note, there are quite a few Portuguese-derived words in Indian
>languages, at least in Bengali. For instance,
>
>                        Bengali      Portuguese
>
>      window            janala        janela
>      tea               cha           cha
	
	Cha (or chaya or chay) is actually are derived from chinese
(both mandarin and cantonese has the same word 
>
>-Sayan Bhattacharyya
>
srini
-- 
Blue Jays: 1992 World Champions 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ash@iron.sni.ca (Ashwin Palekar)
Subject: Indian Overseas Medical Insurance 
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:05:59 GMT

If anybody has any experience w.r.t any Indian Overseas Medical
Insurance please share it with us on the network.

Experience regarding:

	  response quality
	, clarity of documents 
	, acceptance of the insurance papers in USA or Canada
	, easy claims proceedure 
	, do's and don'ts 
	, value for money.

Sorry if it is on FAQ .

My present experience:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have taken a United India Overseas Medical Assuarance policy 
for some vistors to my place.

The document is absolutely complicated and further i am unsure if
doctors here would take the pains to read & understand
the entire document and ring up Mercury Ltd. before treatment.

Infact i asked a local doctor just to verify. After seeing the
document he said the persons must pay first and then claim from them.
I have not yet gone to other doctors for verification.



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Soc.culture.Indian or Islam or Hinduism??
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:03:53 GMT

>*A* religion. Hinduism is a culture in which a solution to the 
>multiplicity of religions/faiths of individuals has been successfully
>implemented and practiced for ages. Yes, it is the same solution
>which your Bahai'ism seeks to attain - Yes, Hinduism has had the
>solution for the ages. In this case, you seem to be the classic case
>of "Deepak tale Andhera" or "Kasturi kundali base, Mrig Dhundhe ban mahi(n)."
>(Translations : "Darkness under the lamp itself", and "Musk-deer is looking
>for the source of the perfume throughout the world - and not within self.")
>
All I am doing is to raise the cry which reverberated throughout India
2500 years ago:

Buddham Saranam Gachchhami
(Come to the protection of Buddha)
Dhammam Sharanam gachchhami
(Come to the ETERNAL RELIGION)
Sangham Saranam Gachchhami
(Come to the protection of the Order)

*O Ananada, there will come another Buddha who will teach you all that
I have taught: He will teach you a doctrine which is glorious in the
beginning, glorious in the middle and glorious in the end*

It's for you to respond or not to
Arindam

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:28751 soc.culture.pakistan:13908 soc.culture.bangladesh:4617
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: THE VISION OF WORLD PEACE
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:54:00 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug16.030006.10825@massey.ac.nz>, A.Qadir@massey.ac.nz 
(A. Qadir) writes...
>Bring your father to read all this "BULL SHIT"

 Hey ! are you in the wrong group ? Bloody #^$*@^*^%@&*!!# !

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
Newsgroups: osu.indian,soc.culture.indian
From: sghose@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sumit Ghose)
Subject: hostfor
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 14:34:31 GMT

                    Attention OLD INDIAN STUDENTS!!!!

New Students from India are arriving from today onwards. The International
Students Office has already requested me to pick up four of them and arrange
for temporary housing. I have already done so. In the near future I may be
calling some of you for help if need be to give some tips to the New
Students.Please volunteer for the same!!All you need to do is give them some
advice about life in Columbus and OSU and if need be allow them to be your
guest for a couple of days.
Thanks.
I also thank a couple of people who have already volunteered help. 

Also  you may contact OISS if you want to help otherwise. They need volunteers 
from Monday the 24th. of August.

Sumit Ghose
Vice President , India Students Association.
From: raja@magic (Raja Seth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Imeatating the West (was: Abortion and the status of women)
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:40:05 GMT
Reply-To: raja@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems Inc.,


In <1992Aug3.230734.27546@u.washington.edu> Nagarajan writes :

	Did either Buddha or Mahavir say that animals have "rights"?

They said 'let them alone'. If animals could speak, they would have said
*explicitly* that the animals have rights ! They were writing a law book. They
were stating a principle.

	How many Indians are vegetarians on this count and how many are
	merely following a custom? 

Many are following veg.. by custom. Custom started when we accepted certain
principles including animal rights.

	Do you believe vegetarian Indians
	*in India* are not gratuitously cruel to other animals? 

Like stuffing 100 cats in one car (I heard of this a couple of weeks ago
- yes in the US of A) - I do not think so.

	How many Indians have stopped being vegetarians merely to "imitate" the 
	West? 

Many I know have.

	Of course all these are rhetorical questions. With all 
	due respect, I think you are distorting the issue to suit your
	argument.

Sorry no rhetorical answers. No need to hurt you. You have your rights.

							- Nagarajan
Regards ........... Raja

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|
| Raja Seth : raja@balrog.ctron.com
|
| Standard disclaimer applies to this article.
|
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From: roy@osceola.cs.ucf.edu (Ian Roy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for Raj Kumar Mahajan ...
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:12:30 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Organization: University of Central Florida

Dear Netters,

	I am trying to trace a Mr. Raj Kumar Mahajan, whom I am told
is somewhere in the US. If any of you could provide me with any information,
I would be indebted.

	Thanks a lot,

	Ian Roy

	roy@osceola.cs.ucf.edu
		or
	roy@eola.cs.ucf.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: srb@barakam.b17d.ingr.com (Sreedhar Barakam)
Subject: Criminals of Democracy
Organization: Intergraph Corp.,
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:11:29 GMT


There has been a discussion recently about the population problem of India
and how it is not-a-choice but a must to control it.  I wanted to present
another view of looking at the problem and those who contribute to it.

If you must control the population by governmnet it becomes undemocratic.
But how democratic are those causing the problem?  If the majority of a 
democratic country chose to, either advertently or not, commit suicide 
or even a state worse than that in the wrong run, what should a democratic
government do?  Just let it happen?  Or see this side effect of applying
democratic principles to death and intervene?  I think it should and the
purpose of this discussion, in the absense of any personal power to enforce it,
would be in the hope that wider awareness might materialise some sort of 
solution.  

Intervention could be something like no salary raises for any kind of a salaried
job, and no loans/subsidies/ration supplies etc. for others. It could even
be made into a crime that is punishable by law, as frankly I think it is
becoming more and more of a crime that is extremely detrimental to the health
of the nation to go on having more and more children.  We are at the point
of what India's family planning slogan suggests "One of None".

Any views, pro/con would be welcome and appreciated.

Sreedhar.
Newsgroups: osu.indian,soc.culture.indian
From: sghose@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sumit Ghose)
Subject: host
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:52:55 GMT

		ATTENTION FEMALE INDIAN STUDENTS!!!
An American Family is interested in hosting a Female Indian Student in
the Upper Arlington Area. For details call me at 486-0503 and or
e-mail me at sghose@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu as soon as possible.
Sumit Ghose
Vice Presisdent, India Students Association.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: susanc@rice.edu (susan chacko)
Subject: Re: Curious observation.
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:37:11 GMT

sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang) writes:
>...(that the clothing options available to women are basically just
>   variations on a theme, and that men have more clothing-optional
>   choices...)

Well, all clothing is really just a variation on covering up the
regions between the neck and the knees, but male clothing is 
clearly moving in the direction of *less* diversity; I hear that
even in Scotland a kilt is considered old-fashioned these days. 
I suppose the all-or-nothing option of going shirtless makes up 
in some small way :-). 

Susan.

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Mail from this account is forwarded to susan@vger.niddk.nih.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jog@kpc.com (Rajeev Jog)
Subject: Capitation fees
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computers Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:37:40 GMT


From misc.news.southasia (rearranged for convenience):
> 
> Source  : The Hindu
> Date	: Aug 8, 1992
> Country : India
> 
> 
> * Capitation fee cannot be charged - Supreme Court
> 
> The Supreme Court in a significant judgement dealing with the right to
> education under a constitutional scheme ruled that "it is not permissible
> in law for any educational institution to charge capitation fee( by
> whatever name it is called) as a consideration for admission to the said
> institution."
...
> Right to Education: The bench also held that every citizen "has a right
> of education under the Constitution" and the State is under an
> obligation to establish educational institutions to enable the citizen
> to enjoy the said rights.
> 	"The students are given admission to the educational
> institutions - whether State-owned or State-recognized - in recognition
> of their "right to education under the Constitution", the Bench pointed
> out.

This seems similar to the U.S. Supreme Court finding rights which are
not explicitly enumerated in the constitution, such as the "right to
privacy".  I believe the Indian constitution does list any explicit
"right to education".

> The bench, which included Justive R.M.Sahai, also held that "there is no
> escape form the conclusion that charging of capitation fee in
> consideration of admissions to educational institutions is wholly
> arbitrary and as such infracts Artice 14 of the Constitution(equality
> before law).
> 	The bench pointed out that "the capitation fee brings to the
> fore a clear class basis.  It enables the rich to take admissions
> whereas the poor has to withdraw due to financial inability.  A poor
> student with better merit cannot get admission because he has no money
> whereas the rich can purchase the admission.  Such a treatment is
> patently unreasonable, unfair and unfit".

Ok, un question: would it be legal for colleges to charge a very high
tuition fee, and then provide scholarships to some students?  

IMHO this judgement is a retrograde step in an economy that is now
inching towards deregulation.  Capitation fees are part of the free
market in education.  Provided the states or other regulatory bodies
accredit only those institutions with appropriate standards, there is
no need to interfere with fee structures etc. 


-- 
Rajeev Jog
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dea@vccsouth05.its.rpi.edu (Anirban De)
Subject: Re: Calcutta's Howrah Bridge Goes Hi-Tech - Automated Toll Plaza 08/12/92
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:05:02 GMT


In article <1992Aug14.162938.17536@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
mukherje@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Amit Mukherjee) writes:

>>>>>>>>>>
 I had no idea that the construction of the second howrah bridge has been
 completed. As far as I can remember, the construction was in a state of
 limbo for a number of years. Does anybody have more details on this
 bridge ?

>>>>>>>>>


	The construction of the second Hooghly bridge is near completion.
When I was in the city for a visit (May-July) the last section over the 
river was put in place (they approached from both banks, so the last piece
to go was the middle). However this was the structural piece, so they have
now got to place pavement etc. on the surface before this can be opened 
for traffic/pedestrian. 

	I was told it would be until January next before the bridge can
be completely functional. So if it is "opened" from August 15, I believe
it will mostly be symbolic.

	A few comments and observations:

  1. I also heard about some toll being imposed for use of the bridge
(I remember something like Rs 5 for cars and much more for heavy vehicles
-- something pretty high by Indian standards).
     While it is true that the authorities are quite justified in raising
some of the money they invested in building the bridge through such tolls,
I think there should be some overall planning involved. For example, in this
case, with a steep toll for the use of the new bridge and no toll for the use
of the old one, which do you think the transport operators will choose to clog ?

  2.  The lack of overall planning was highlighted in several newspaper articles
this summer. For example, while extensive approach roads on the Calcutta side
are already complete (they are beautiful), not much progress has been made
on the HOwrah side (mostly owing to denser habitation and less land acquisition).
For this reason, once the bridge is opened, the traffic flow will not be smooth
and there will be congestion as large traffic volume from Calcutta side clog the
smaller available road space on the Howrah side. 
      Also on the Howrah side, the approach roads from the bridge to the G T Road
and the howrah station (the two most popular destinations for across-the-river 
traffic) are not quite complete.

  3.  The bridge looks wonderful! It is very high (much higher than the old
bridge), and you can see it from anywhere along the Chowrunghee Road. It is
a cable stayed bridge.

Anirban De
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Curious observation,: Pibroch
Date: 21 Aug 1992 16:09:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug21.192647.9212@newshub.sdsu.edu> sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang) writes:
>: 
>
>No comments. The topic has gone away from the original discussion.
>I close my side of the argument.
>Srinath
>


Oh,oh there goes another interesting flame war. Sad to see people chicken
out despite the clarion call to adhere to family values:-) 

Watch for the demand for soc.culture.indian-family-stories to surface soon.

Samit
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil