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From: dch2@engr.uark.edu (David Hobbs)
Subject: PC-NFS -> SYSV4.0 ???
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:18:42 GMT

I'm wanting to share information between an AT&T 6386 and a PC running
MSDOS and windows 3.1, particularly 1 large file.  I need access to
this file (whether it's on Unix or Dos) from both platforms, maybe even
simultaneously :(.  Anyway, will PC NFS do this, or will I need to get
somng from AT&T/NCR?  I'm open to suggestions at this point!

Please email responses since I don't get to read this newsgroup as often
as I like.  If there's enough interest, I'll post the summary.  If this
is in the FAQ, tell me where and I'll find it...

D.
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From: jerry@incc.com (Jerry Rocteur)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: uucp g protocol tuning parameters -- help cutting phone bills!
Summary: uucico
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:15:10 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386
Organization: InCC.com Perwez Belgium

In article <BvrnKL.88F@gator.rn.com>, larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
> thomas@plxsun (Thomas Leibold) writes:
> 
> >comfortable changing this. Before anyone asks: You do need uucp sources to
> >change the protocoll parameters. If you don't have a source license for your
> >unix get taylor-uucp instead.
> 
> You don't always need the source, it depends on your UNIX.  I seem to remember
> from running SCO (a year or so ago) there was a patch to change the window
> size -- and for ISC this was configureable in the Systems and Devices.
> With SVR4 you can set this up in Config - so to answer your question, it
> would depend on the version of UNIX you are running
 
 man uucico on SCO 3.2.4 shows you how to do that, the only problem is
 that they show _windows and _pktime and that should be windows and
 pktime without the _ 

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Wangtek or Archive??
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:50:20 GMT

In article <2ADAE360.350F@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>>> - Sankyo

>>If their tape drives are anything like their hifi I'd avoid it.

>I don't think *Sankyo* (tape drives) is the same company as *Sanyo* (HiFi).
>I could be wrong, however.

You are not wrong.   One of the neatest Unix boxes I saw was built by
Sankyo = had 5 68020's and all the memory was cache &/or virtual.
Joint venture with a company called Icon.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: Destiny vs ODT vs Dell vs ESIX
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:25:28 GMT
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI
Keywords: Destiny ODT SCO Dell ESIX

In article <1992Oct06.094404.15500@digibd.com> rick@digibd.com (Rick Richardson) writes:
>and development systems.  No manual pages.

No manual pages?  Like, none at all?  Like, not even a "man" command?

SVR4.2 was sounding pretty good up 'til this part.  C'mon, USL, even
SCO started shipping manpages with the SCO Xenix runtime in 3.2.4.
Why on earth would USL leave them out of Destiny?  Surely not to save
space; after all, you can just leave them out of the base install, or
have them served by a central machine over the net.  But none at all?
Bleah.

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                            | with the hard way."
                            |   - W. Scheider, from a Physics lecture
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From: neal@mnopltd.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.dcom.lans
Subject: Starlan Driver for SCO TCP/IP?
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:01:42 GMT
Organization: MNOP Ltd - Mini & Micro Consulting, Atlanta, GA

Gotta put a SCO MPX system near a bunch of AT&T 6386 systems and connect
via TCP/ip.   Getting a Starlan card to work would be neatest way.  But
I see no drivers, not even in the LLS drivers collection.  Ideas?  Should
I try to put Ethernet in one of the AT&T's and try to bridge it from 
there?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: fangchin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chin Fang)
Subject: Re: Destiny vs ODT vs Dell vs ESIX
Keywords: Destiny ODT SCO Dell ESIX
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 19:20:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.184619.27723@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>In article <id.SPWT.EO3@ferranti.com>, peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:
>
>| your requirements... and TCL is a much nicer programming language than
>| sh/ksh: quoting, for example, can be made unambiguous. Plus, you can link
>| in your custom TCL commands.
>
>a) where is ksh ambiguous?

I won't accuse ksh as ambiguous.

>b) but both eksh and wksh allow linking stuff, where's the advantage?

No comments for this one, as I haven't played with SVR4.2 yet, hopefully
soon.  SVR4.0.x is just too bloated for my taste, so I don't intend to
use it anymore.

>ksh is adequate for both scripts and interractive use, and is on all V.4
>and later systems, and available for virtually any system. I don't see
>any technical advantages to TCL to justify adding it yourself when wksh
>is available.

Someone may flame me for saying the following, but here goes anyways:

TCL is developed at UC Berkeley and is free.  There are many turely nice
applications (the fabulous pt, point editor by Charlie Crowley immediately
comes to my mind).  It's well developed, well supported (probably better
than ksh :) and has an active comp.lang.tcl for net discussions.  So 
comparing to ksh, there are at least two things going for tcl:

(1) it's probably a better language (I know both, but I confess that I
    am biased, ignore this one if you wish)
(2) it's freely available, and is of very high quality, and there are turely
    useful clients written for tcl, available free too.  TCL and TK can
    be built for many popular systems, from PC Unices to big irons.  Very
    protable system!

I know the two above are not convincing enough to make a clear cut.  Personal
preferences and proficiency in each makes a difference.  

Just some thought....

Chin Fang
fangchin@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec)
Subject: Building X11R5 on ISC 3.0
Keywords: X11 X11R5 X-windows ISC 3.0
Organization: HAM Radio Station N9EUZ, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:51:05 GMT

Has anyone successfully built X11R5 under ISC 3.0?
What do your site.def and x386.cf files look like?
Specifically, what did you set BootstrapCFlags to and
how do you determine this?

I have a Trident card and will be grabbing the Xfree86
server stuff ASAP, so any help in building would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Mike

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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Intel/ISC 4.0.3: can you 'pack' a filesystem?
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:36:24 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <davis.718469476@csrg2>, davis@csrg2.ee.iastate.edu (Jim Davis) writes:
| I'm running Intel/ISC 4.0.3 UNIX with ONE 300Mb ufs file system. 
| Is there a way to pack a file system to make files contiguous, etc, 
| like the Norton utilities do for DOS?  I don't know what kind of
| heuristics the Berkeley file system uses, so is the notion of
| compacting a UNIX filesystem for better performance even an issue anymore?

  Usually not. What fragmentation does fsck show on your partition? I
just checked my news partition on a server and it was only 0.4%. If news
doesn't fragment a filesystem, I don't believe it can be done ;-)

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From: mjo@snclib.snc.edu (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: netstat -i crashes Interactive SVR3(.2.2.3) / netd.cf weirdness
Date: 11 Oct 92 02:27:04 GMT
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@snclib.snc.edu>
Organization: :noitazinagrO


Problem:  Running "netstat -i" on my Interactive SVR3 with TCP 1.2
          causes bad things to happen.  I have my network up and I
          believe it's working just fine, but...

Problem:  The documentation on netd.cf is horrible.  I can't seem
          to find anything apart from a cryptic manpage and sample
          files that only work to a point.  I'd like to get SLIP
          and Western Digital Ethernet (SMC) to work together, and
          I really don't know what to massage/pamper to get things
          to work.  

Please email all replies as news service here is less than 100% reliable.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: Re: Boca again.  FAS?  Must be a Faq...
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:19:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.230714.14602@sfu.ca>
	rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes:

>I am trying to install a bocaboard-8 (BB1008) on my Insteractive 3.2
>systems.  The box says that there are more than a million of
>the boards sold so some one must have it running.

Um, read it again. Boca has sold more than a million boards (they say),
but most of those have been memory or multi-purpose cards. The BocaBoard
is a brand new product.

>I have SCO
>UNIX/XENIX but they are of little use (I guess?).

It is possible that the SCO UNIX drivers may work on Interactive.
Worth a test, at veryu least...

>If you have drivers or know how to make these boards work with 
>Interactive, please drop me a message.  Is there an archive
>site where such drivers live?  
>
>Finally...  What about FAS?  It looks as though I can use this
>to run my bocaboards (?) but I don't have a development system
>so I can't compile it  Is there a binary site that has them?
>Is this what I want?

Roe Peterson, one of the co-authors of SAS (a STREAMS-based
implementation of FAS) has two BobaBoards in hand and is working
on SAS support for them.

This will not be of any help for those using Interactive and other R3s,
as SAS will only work on R4s.

So give the SCO UNIX driver a chance. What's to lose?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: Building X11R5 on ISC 3.0
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:19:00 GMT
Keywords: X11 X11R5 X-windows ISC 3.0

In article <1992Oct7.205105.5782@timesink.chi.il.us> mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec) writes:
> Has anyone successfully built X11R5 under ISC 3.0?
> What do your site.def and x386.cf files look like?
> Specifically, what did you set BootstrapCFlags to and
> how do you determine this?
> 
> I have a Trident card and will be grabbing the Xfree86
> server stuff ASAP, so any help in building would be
> greatly appreciated.
> Thanks, Mike
> 
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Get the XFree86 source package (from export.lcs.mit.edu or ftp.physics.su.oz)
Read the READMEs, then follow the instructions.  In a few hours, you will
have a completed XFree86 1.1 package.

Or, if you don't want to build it, get the binary package from 
blancmange.ma.utexas.edu.  That's the ISC SVR3 repository.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: kdenning@portal.hq.videocart.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: Unix: Cacheing EISA SCSI vs. Non-cacheing EISA SCSI Controllers
Summary: More on this
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:18:33 GMT

In article <jim.718492482@ferkel> jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:
>I've heard the arguments that a disk cache on the controller is 'useless'
>under Unix, but I don't believe it as a general case.  As I understand it,
>the amount of disk cache Unix assigns is relative to how much memory is
>available.  If you run lots of big programs, the cache is going to get
>pretty small, right?  

On a V.4 machine, this is true.  The system will deallocate cache memory to
use for processes.

For SVR3.2 or before, this is not true.  The system, at CONFIGURATION time,
has a fixed buffer cache which is inviolate in terms of being "stolen".  This
is usually not as good a thing as the V.4 situation in practice.  You are
usually either under or over-allocated in the cache area.

>So the way I see it, having the cache on the disk
>controller makes certain that you will have at least however much cache is
>on the controller, plus however much Unix can assign in real memory.  

On a 3.2 system this is also true from the system cache.

>more resources if more resources are available.  I think a guarantee of a
>certain size disk cache is better than hoping that unix will have room

One other point however.  The controller cannot be expected to understand
disk layout in terms of what is where.  Therefore, it cannot optimize
read-ahead and other parameters to best suit the OS in use.  However, the
operating system can and should understand these things, and >can< choose
what to keep and what to toss based on something more intelligent than
random chance.

Second, it is these days usually cheaper to add system RAM for disk cache
than it is to add cache to a proprietary disk controller board.  Not always
true, but frequently -- especially if you need to buy an add-on board to up
the cache amount.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: mam@mamunx.garmhausen.de (Michael A Meiszl)
Subject: Re: Unix: Cacheing EISA SCSI vs. Non-cacheing EISA SCSI Controllers
Organization: Public Access Mailbox
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:30:19 GMT

In <Bvuqrw.AG@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

>>Get a BusTek BT 747S or 742A or Adaptec 174(x). Realistically, you can
>>almost always add RAM to the motherboard.

>How about if your MB is an ISA and you currently have 16megs of RAM
>on it?  
Then you probably don't want to insert an EISA card, won't you???
[or Larry, do you have a solid "card-insertion-hammer" ???]

	mam
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From: sp_pm@space.alcbel.be (Paul Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Wanted: Advice about SCSI peripherals for 386 UNIX system
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:22:24 GMT
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Hello,

At last, I have decided to upgrade my 386 machine, running ISC 2.2.1 unix,
and I would welcome some advice concerning upgrading the hard disk, and 
also tape backup, in both cases using SCSI peripherals.

My present hard disk is a 140 Mbyte IDE drive. If I upgrade to SCSI, will
a SCSI drive be able to coexist under UNIX with the existing IDE drive? 
If so, will I be able to physically install it, for example in one of the
spare slots, because otherwise there simply isn't enough spare space in
the box? In terms of SCSI disk capacity, I'm thinking in terms of about
300 Mbyte.

I would also like to install a SCSI tape drive. I know even less about
tape backup than I do about SCSI disks, but I understand that there are
several formats in use. Which one is best? Also, again, space may be a
problem, although there is a vertically-oriented knockout-panel available,
of about the same size as that required for a 3.5" floppy disk drive. 
Would I be able to use this space for a tape drive?

Finally, the SCSI controller, which do I need, 16-bit or 8-bit? Apart from
speed of operation, does it matter?

So, I suppose my request boils down to the following:
1. Can I install a SCSI hard disk and tape backup, while still using my 
   IDE disk drive?
2. Which type of SCSI controller and format of tape backup do I need?
3. Which brands and models are recommended?

All help and advice given will be appreciated. I will post a summary of responses to the net, if interest warrants.

Please respond by email, as I don't have real access to the News.

Regards, Paul

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From: marrevola@iris-dcp.es
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Any experience with Sony 4mm DAT drives?
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:56:17 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <1beu5sINN3ie@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, hossein@ces.cwru.edu (HOSSEIN) writes:
> Hi,
> 	We have a Gateway 486/33 running under SCO unix V386 R3.2.  The system
> has an Adaptec 1542 SCSI HA and we want to add a SCSI tape drive to it.  The
> price/capacity for a Sony 4mm DAT looks reasonable.  It is $1049 for an external
> tape drive with 1.3GB capacity.  I was wondering if anybody out there has had 
> experience with these tape drives.
> 
> - Are the 4mm tapes as reliable as QIC tapes?
> - Won't we have problems in connecting the external tape drive through the 
>   external SCSI port?
> - What about the compatibility of the CAM or ASPI driver methods?
> 
> I'll appreciate any response.
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> Seyed.

	We are currently working with a 4mm DAT tape drive with ODT and it
works perfect. The SCSI parameters must be very clear before the
installation-configuration, or you'll waste a lot of time with it. Another tip
is "not to interrupt" the tar command before it ends a backup (while writing
the tape). With this in mind we make backups of 1Gbyte in very little time (and
till this moment all backups have been safe and reliable).

Regards,

manolo@taf.fundesco.es
From: bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Intel/ISC 4.0.3: can you 'pack' a filesystem?
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:45:21 GMT
Organization: Guru Systems/Funware Department

In <davis.718469476@csrg2> davis@csrg2.ee.iastate.edu (Jim Davis) writes:

>I'm running Intel/ISC 4.0.3 UNIX with ONE 300Mb ufs file system. 
>Is there a way to pack a file system to make files contiguous, etc, 
>like the Norton utilities do for DOS?

There is no need to 'pack' a ufs file system. A well parameterized ufs
file system places the files so that they can be read with minimal
overhead.



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From: bill@wafbox.UUCP (Bill Fulton)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: V/386 R3.2 Device Driver Reference Manual
Date: 10 Oct 92 03:29:32 GMT
Reply-To: bill@wafbox.UUCP (Bill Fulton)
Organization: Home

In article <1992Oct2.215611.6486@SSD.intel.com> richardg@ssd.intel.com (Richard Griffiths) writes:
>In article <BvIEyy.62L@csn.org>, c4craig@teal.csn.org (Craig Anderson) writes:
>|> 
>|> Can anyone tell me where to find:
>|> 
>|> UNIX SystemV/386 R3.2 Device Driver Reference Manual
>Go to any decent book store that carries the Prentice Hall SVR4 Unix books
>and get the DDI/DKI manual.  Although the manual is for SVR4, there are tables
>in each section differentiating between the R3 and R4 releases.  I was able to
>use it effectively to write a driver for a 3.2 system.  

And save a bunch of money - The 3.2 Manual costs $150!!

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