HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: raoul@fangio.wa.com (Jeff Benedict)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: OFFENSIVE MESSAGES
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 04:18:37 PDT
Organization: J. Benedict Computing, Port Townsend, WA.

umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daniel Saltel) writes:

> Someone has got into my user-account and has sent offensive messages.
> I am sorry that this has happened.
> This has been very upsetting.

Yeah, I read that one.  Looked like something on a local "hacker BBS".
Not like anything on Usenet.  Maybe your sysadmin can recheck security
proceedures at your site....

Oh, yeah.... It was offensive-and not very witty either!!!!

Take care-

Jeff

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: srklump@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (elm)
Subject: Re: GAZETTE: THE WORLD 'REMARKS' OUR FRENCH-INFLUENCED ENGLISH
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:05:52 GMT

In article <17e2haINNlu2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu (Aaron Priven) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug19.154402.6855@bmerh85.bnr.ca> myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui) writes:
> >What about the French equivalent for the English phrase
> >
> >               "Write an exam?"
> 
> This is amusing.  Canadian usage of "write an exam" was one of the
> most noticeable things about Canadian English when I first was at UBC.
> We don't use "write an exam" here in California.  To write an
> exam here would be to create it (what the professor would do).

You mean, 'setting an exam'?

> Students take exams.
> 
>  =Aaron=
> -- 
> Aaron Priven, aaronrp@ucscb.ucsc.edu or fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu
>         "Men make history, but they do not do so under 
>          conditions of their own choosing." -- Karl Marx


Handy reference chart:  To _______ an exam

Canadian English	Quebec French	USA English

Set			E'crire		Write
Write			Passer		Take
Pass			Re'ussir	Pass


Enough said?

Stephen.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:6249 can.politics:6394
From: warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
Subject: Oui ou Non (was Re: Election sun rising
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:06:53 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.canada
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <BtzA2p.3FI.1@cs.cmu.edu>, clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) writes:
|> (*) I think it is neat the we federalists get to [be] on the OUI side this
|>     time. 

Popular folklore in Switzerland has it that people find it easier
to vote "no" to a referendum no matter what the question.  Therefore,
the question should be "Do you not want to accept the new constitution?"
From: umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mystery)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Would you do my butt for me?
Date: 31 Aug 92 03:07:06 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada



You know where to find me.  Dont forget to bring K-Jelly!

craved.
From: naren@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Naren Bala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Visiting Vancouver
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:09:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.


Hi, 
I was planning to visit Vancouver next weekend. I am a permanent resident of
U.S.A. and an Indian citizen. I was wondering what documents I need to take
when I travel to Vancouver and come back to U.S.A. Would it advisable to
take just my green card and not take my passport ? I was going to drive in
my car.

Reply by email
Thanks 
** Naren **
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Usenet says US=Canada
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:43:05 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Aug27.023117.12364@ccu.umanitoba.ca> feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld) writes:
>Sometime back I posted a note to another group, with the hope that it
>would be read in the US, but not in Canada.  (The why needn't concern
>us, but has a lot to do with my wearing a paper bag over my head these
>days.)
>So, for "distribution" in the header, I, of course, typed "US".
>And, of course, the note appeared in Canada as well.
>Usenet makes no apparent distinction between "na" and "US".
>No need for any nasty invasion.
>-- 
>Michael Feld                         | E-mail:  <feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
>Dept. of Philosophy                  | FAX:     (204) 261-0021
>University of Manitoba               | Voice:   (204) 474-9136
>Winnipeg, MB, R3T 2M8, Canada	                     

Why not presuming that each machine in Internet is programmed to receive
news about X, Y or Z area?  Then, each individual machine made the
decision, not the network.  Just like some accept can.*, talk.* or
alt.sex.* groups.

-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
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J   __>  Un Quebec renouvele dans une Amerique renovee
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: meerkat@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (janet.l.pflederer)
Subject: Re: Election sun rising
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:23:12 GMT
Summary: US fixed terms not so great

In article <1992Sep2.121150.7314@cl.cam.ac.uk> iaf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Innes Ferguson) writes:
>Like so many other aspects of the political framework in Canada, I'm
>guessing Canada imported the system of choosing election dates from 
>the British. It's sad how British-like (read undemocratic) Canada's
>political institutions are even today (the Senate being the prime example).
>
>The solution, in this case, would be to copy the US: have fixed terms
>of office.

Might I point out that fixed terms of office potentially promote
the long, drawn out, money intensive election campaigns that the
US presidential elections have become?  I am not convinced that
having fixed terms does anything to promote democracy;  fixed terms
may avoid politicising of election dates, but elminate the very
democratic possibility of government changes through no-confidence
votes.

Further, I doubt that many Canadians are too eager to copy US forms
of government.  Just a hunch.

-Janet L. Pflederer
 meerkat@homxa.att.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: sbo@vlsi.polymtl.ca (Stephane Boucher)
Subject: Re: is it really snowing in Alberta?
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
	<1992Aug25.024823.3470@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:36:15 GMT

>>>>> On 25 Aug 92 02:48:23 GMT, hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) said:

  > In article <1992Aug24.223520.19746@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jgtsai@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jane Tsai) writes:
  > |> I heard that there was a snow storm somewhere in Alberta... is this true?
  > |> What was the temperature? Did it set any records? 
  > |> 
  > |> (Snow in August... hard to believe).

  > 	Nyeah, we get snow in June sometimes!  
  > 	(Newfoundland)

The snow in Alberta is god given. The intent is to cool
the Albertains in regard of the Constitution :-) :-) :-)
--
  ,                          ,                           ,
Stephane Boucher, ing. jr. | Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
sbo@vlsi.polymtl.ca        | Tel: (514)340-5950
sbo@info.polymtl.ca        | Fax: (514)340-4078
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: peeters@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (bert peeters)
Subject: Re: Allophones?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:53:18 GMT

srklump@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (elm) writes:

>Just a question:  where did this name come from?  Is it anything to do with
>'Allo' (colloq. for 'bonjour').
> 
>(Allophone := Quebecker whose mother tongue is neither French nor English)

I reckon it is Greek and refers in this context to someone who sounds (-phone)
differently (or like anOTHER person, allo-).
In linguistics, the term is used for sound variants that have no communicative
relevance, e.g. in Canadian French the difference between [ts] and [t]: both
are allophones of the one phoneme /t/, which gets realized as [ts] in front
of [i], [y] (= the letter written 'u') and the semi-vowel [y] (as in 'aujour-
d'HUi), but as [t] everywhere else. 
PS The phonetic notation is approximative.

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From: medusa@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: FLIGHT PLAN FOR YEAR 2000
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:31:33 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

CAn anyone tell me where I can find a copy of a policy report on 
the Canadian army that was published sometime in the mid to late
1980's.  This report outline the role of the Canadian army come
the Year 2000.  According to an acquaintance who worked on this
report it's basic premise is that the declince of the middle class
in this country will lead to ever sharper divisions betwee the 
rich and the poor, with the result that the Can. army will become
a force for civillian control, rather than national defense.  This
acquaintance stated that the use of armed forces at Oka and against
NFLD. fishers last year in ST. JOhn's was indicative of the army's
transformation along the lines stated in the above mentioned re-
port.  The implications of this are truly frightening.  When I asked
my friend if the army had restricted the public's access to this
document he stated that it had not because as an army official said,
"we don't have to hide it because the public doesn't read these
things anyway".  He promised to mail me a copy, but never did. 
It is called, "Flightplan/Flight Plan for the Year 2000".
Thanks in Advance, Susan.  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau)
Subject: Re: Usenet says US=Canada
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:29:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.023117.12364@ccu.umanitoba.ca> feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld) writes:
>Sometime back I posted a note to another group, with the hope that it
>would be read in the US, but not in Canada.  (The why needn't concern
>us, but has a lot to do with my wearing a paper bag over my head these
>days.)
>So, for "distribution" in the header, I, of course, typed "US".
>And, of course, the note appeared in Canada as well.
>Usenet makes no apparent distinction between "na" and "US".
>No need for any nasty invasion.

Don't blame Usenet.  The Distribution: field is a suggestion only.  All
sites receiving news get to choose which distributions they receive;
most sites in Canada (and around the world, I suspect), choose to get
the US distribution.  (BTW, here in Ottawa we receive US; we also
receive QC.)

Even if the distributions were strictly enforced, I'd still be very
careful of posting stuff elsewhere I didn't want read here - Usenet
posts often find their way back in weird and wonderful ways.

The Rhealist - Rheal Nadeau - nadeau@bnr.ca - Speaking only for myself
From: ggao@apee.ogi.edu (Gengying Gao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Looking for a Friend
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:35:53 GMT
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Applied Physics & Electrical Engineering, Beaverton

I am looking for a person for my friend. The following
is his status:

Zhao, Liang 

B.S., Physics, Beijing University, 1983;
1987-1989: Switzerland, graduate student;
1989 ( or 90 ) -- present: graduate student in Canada;

Any information is welcome. You can either contact
my friend at:
		 (503) 690-1840 ( collect call ok ) 
or send email to me:
		 ggao@apee.ogi.edu

Thank you very much.
From: amunn@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Alan Munn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Are TC1 visa holders FICA exempt?
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:30:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of North Carolina
Originator: amunn@gibbs.oit.unc.edu

The subject line more or less says it all.  When I was on an F1 visa,
I didn't get US Social Security taxes (FICA) deducted.  Is this also
the case now that I'm on a TC-1 (Free Trade) visa?  Does anyone know
which part of the bureaucracy is supposed to know about this stuff?
Noone seems to have even *heard* of a TC visa, much less what rules
might apply to holders of one.

Thanks,

Alan Munn
<amunn@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: dave@silver.sni.ca (Dave Till)
Subject: Re: Insulting beer ads, etc.
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na 
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:11:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.142240.17817@cos.com> bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes:
>All you folks who criticize the beer ads do not seem to
>realize why they are so silly. The puritan governments
>in both Canada and the U.S. will not allow a beer (or
>other liquor commercial) to say anything about good taste
>etc. So we get dumb things like cold, clear, etc and the
>Swedish bikini team.

The Canadian and U.S. beer ads don't talk about good taste because
of "truth in advertising" requirements.  :-)

When the Canadian government began permitting the pouring of beer in
beer ads (sometime in the 1970s, I think), many brewers brought out
ads consisting of nothing but a close-up shot of a beer glass being
slowly and luxuriously filled.  Gurgle, glug, gurgle, gurgle...
-- 
--Dave Till ("dave@silver.sni.ca", or try "dave@snitor.uucp"; as a last resort,
try "dwtill@watyew.waterloo.edu")  * My Canada includes the World Series. *
"Take it from me, a veteran.  The indicators of mental health in this country
are sleeping habits, hair length and beards." -- from *Whale Music*
Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:6250 can.general:4262
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general
Subject: Speed and Driving
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 05:56:33 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Whine, Whine,Whine!!!  We in north America are subject to too many safety
standards on the road.  Reason: We have too much of a big ego and show-off
style.

I site Europe, where I saw people going close to 120 mph on the motorways, in
fact, a car with ONtario license plates was going 140 mph on a motorway between
Liverpool to Birmingham.  In fact, in France you take your own life when
crossing the main road.

Lighten up, we SHOULD take a lesson from Europe for once!!

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:6261 can.general:4267
From: jshimeld@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general
Subject: Re: Speed and Driving
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:50:27 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <yoXiqB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
> Whine, Whine,Whine!!!  We in north America are subject to too many safety
> standards on the road.  Reason: We have too much of a big ego and show-off
> style.
> 
> I site Europe, where I saw people going close to 120 mph on the motorways, in
> fact, a car with ONtario license plates was going 140 mph on a motorway between
> Liverpool to Birmingham.  In fact, in France you take your own life when
> crossing the main road.
> 
> Lighten up, we SHOULD take a lesson from Europe for once!!
> 


I, for one, enjoy living in an environment where crossing the road is not
generally a life threatening experience.  I cite Halifax, where drivers
actually stop at crosswalks for pedestrians.  Having lived a good portion
of my life in Ontario, I find the drivers in Nova Scotia infinitely more
courteous and safety conscious than their Ontarian counterparts (not to 
say that there aren't bad drivers in N.S. either though).

Just because it is possible to build cars that can travel at 120 mph does
not mean that we should raise or even eliminate existing speed limits in
North America.  There are many more factors involved, not the least of
which is a driver's responsibility to the rest of the drivers and 
pedestrians on the road.  Since there always seem to be drivers who
are willing to drive too fast for the conditions (bearing in mind
road and weather conditions, vehicle performance, and driving capabilites),
I think it is reasonable to enforce speed limits.

Besides providing a factor of safety for the public, speed limits also
serve an important legal function; they allow the distinction between
an accident, in the true sense of the word, and reckless driving.  Since
most accident victims seem to need compensation for their suffering, this
is not a trivial point.  Speed limits are the most practical method of 
judging a driver's innocence or responsibility in an accident.  I'm
not saying speed limits are the "be all and end all"; they are simply
the most practical method of dealing with a complex problem.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: jimmy@namao.ucs.ualberta.ca
Subject: Software Contracts
Organization: University of Alberta
Distribution: can
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:56:48 GMT


Folks,

How is the contracting/consulting market in the Toronto area these days ? 
Is there enough work in GUIs/X-Windows/MS Windows/C/C++ to keep one busy 
most of the time ?
If you know about the above Software areas, would you know how long a 
typical contract lasts in them ?

Thanks,
Jimmy
P.S. Please email...
--
jimmy@namao.ucs.ualberta.ca

--
jimmy@namao.ucs.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau)
Subject: Re: Oui ou Non (was Re: Election sun rising
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:25:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.100653@ltisun14.epfl.ch> warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne) writes:
>In article <BtzA2p.3FI.1@cs.cmu.edu>, clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) writes:
>|> (*) I think it is neat the we federalists get to [be] on the OUI side this
>|>     time. 
>
>Popular folklore in Switzerland has it that people find it easier
>to vote "no" to a referendum no matter what the question.  Therefore,
>the question should be "Do you not want to accept the new constitution?"

You want to current deal to be accepted?  Then ask this question:

   Are you in favour of scrapping the current deal, and starting another
   round of constitutional talks?

Let's face it - most people (even in Quebec) are sick and tired of this
topic, and will likely accept any deal that's not terminally flawed.
Most people wish the governments would worry about fixing the economy
(under the illusion that the government CAN fix the economy!)

The Rhealist - Rheal Nadeau - nadeau@bnr.ca - Speaking only for myself
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld)
Subject: Usenet says US=Canada
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:31:17 GMT

Sometime back I posted a note to another group, with the hope that it
would be read in the US, but not in Canada.  (The why needn't concern
us, but has a lot to do with my wearing a paper bag over my head these
days.)
So, for "distribution" in the header, I, of course, typed "US".
And, of course, the note appeared in Canada as well.
Usenet makes no apparent distinction between "na" and "US".
No need for any nasty invasion.
-- 
Michael Feld                         | E-mail:  <feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Dept. of Philosophy                  | FAX:     (204) 261-0021
University of Manitoba               | Voice:   (204) 474-9136
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 2M8, Canada	                     
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: dstewart+@cs.cmu.edu (David B Stewart)
Subject: Re: Allophones?
Cc: dstewart
Organization: The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:25:02 GMT

In article <BtLu9L.DMo@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> srklump@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (elm) writes:
>Just a question:  where did this name come from?  Is it anything to do with
>'Allo' (colloq. for 'bonjour').
> 
>
>(Allophone := Quebecker whose mother tongue is neither French nor English)
>
>
>Stephen.

From the American Heritage Dictionary:

    Allo-: Prefix meaning 'other' or 'different'.

~dave

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From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Allophones?
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:39:17 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

Allophone : from greek Allos (other) and phone.
SOmeone who speak another language than that of a communauty
(from Le Petit Larousse).

SInce the Canada is officially bilingual, a canadian allophone speak
some other language that French or English.

If Quebec becomes an independent country having only French as
official language (and if Canada/CSQ at the same time declares English
as only official language), then a Quebecois allophone could then be
an anglophone too, and a Canadian allophone could then be a francophone.
However, if Quebec and Canada each keep schools or other institution
in the "other" language (and Quebec probably would), the definition
of allophone will likely not be changed.

Obviously, the Natives language are considered as "allo-languages" because
they are spoken each by a smaller group of persons.  Allo- means other,
not foreign!

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  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Un Quebec renouvele dans une Amerique renovee
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: breton@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Pierre Breton)
Subject: Festival International de Nouvelle Danse  [F->E]
Originator: breton@helios.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Keywords: Dance Montreal
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 21:24:27 GMT


From September 29 to October 10, 1992, the "Festival International de 
Nouvelle Danse" of Montreal will present:

from Canada:
La La La Human Steps (Edouard Lock)
O Vertigo Danse (Ginette Laurin)
The National Ballet of Canada (William Forsythe, John Alleyne)
Compagnie Marie Chouinard
Montreal Danse (Fortier, Laurin, Leveille, Sullivan)
Karen Jamieson Dance Company
Le Carre des Lombes (Daniele Desnoyers)
Jane Mappin, William Douglas
Jocelyne Montpetit
Lynda Gaudreau

from elsewhere:
S.O.A.P. Dance Theatre Frankfurt (Rui Horta, Allemagne) 
Compagnie Pierre Droulers (Belgique)
Trisha Brown Company (Etats-Unis)
Doug Elkins Dance Co. (Etats-Unis)
Laurie Booth & Company (Grande-Bretagne)
Astrakan (Daniel Larrieu, France)


I was curious to know if some people on the net that have seen some of 
these dancers would care to comment on the performances they saw.  




-- 
       __
      (..)        Pierre Breton
   --mm--mm--     breton@mcrcim.mcgill.ca

Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Usenet says US=Canada
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:56:37 GMT

Actually, for the software where it does work, you need:

	usa

not "us."  North America also exists as "na."
Part of the problem comes from multinational company who have a single
controlled gateway in one country.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
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