From: harryo@cbnewse.cb.att.com (harold.r.holm)
Subject: Re: consumer confidence (Clinton's achievements)
Organization: AT&T
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:11:44 GMT

In article <YOUNG.92Dec12144914@ssdd475a.erim.org>, young@ssdd475a.erim.org (Peter Young) writes:
> In article <1992Dec12.041800.2999@cbnewse.cb.att.com> harryo@cbnewse.cb.att.com (harold.r.holm) writes:
> 
> >   WOW!  Whoop-de-do!  That in itself will show us, won't it?  Government
> >   with a conscience?  Try dismantling the creature called `Congress' and 
> >   starting over......
> 
> Why is it that the conservatives, those who wish to conserve our way
> of life, seem to be the ones who want to make sweeping changes?
> Harry, here, wants to scrap the constitution in the interests of his
> conservatism.
> 
Because we want to get rid of the irresponsibles who have set us on the
track of totally *botching* our "way of life" by setting up what amounts
to an Imperial Club Fiefdom which has spent the last generation driving
us down the road to national bankruptcy, sucking up to every gimme-gang
that comes along, lavishing upon itself every luxury and perk it can
think of, setting itself above the people it portends to serve by passing
regimenting legislation it exempts itself from, grabbing at every aspect
of governmental power it can get its tentacles on, and becoming a bloated,
arrogant bureaucracy in and of itself beholden to its political patchwork
quilt of lobbyists, PACs, and good-ol'-guy-and-gal networks of various 
stripes.  Scrap the Constitution??  Son, you'd just *better* look around
again and find just where *that* fuse has *really* been lit.  Hint:
Somewhere at a certain geographical point squeezed between Maryland 
and Virginia, ironically. 
> >   > 1992 When americans voted for change and created hope for a better
> >   > future for all of us not some of us.
> 
> >   Oh, some of us voted for change, all right.  For starters, how about
> >   eliminating the income tax and the IRS?  Change?  "Courage"??  The Clinton/
> >   Democratic Tinker Squad wouldn't even have the pebbles for change like that,
> >   much less the *balls*.......
> 
> Or failing that, just delete amendments he finds objectionable, and
> take away some of the powers of congress.  If all it took to remove
> the IRS is balls, why didn't Mr. Reagan or Mr. Bush do this.  I mean,
> these guys were actually in the military, unlike Mr. Clinton, so we
> know they have balls, right?
> 
First off, Mr. Reagan or Mr. Bush *couldn't* do it on their own, particularly
with the Democrats in defacto control of Congress.   And Congress, being 
under that control, was not about to let a Republican President usurp the
source of their spend-power.  If Mr. Clinton really wants to prove his 
mettle with his own party, then, let him *propose* it.  That's how it 
starts.  If he's got all this marvelous influence, somehow, as the result
of capturing back the White House for the majority party in Congress, then
let's just see how far he can take it, and engender something really 
bold and positive for a Democrat, for a (real) *change*.  All this big
Democratic talk about "investing" and "saving" vs. consumption is a 
lot of hooey unless action follows.  Symbolism vs. substance again, 
indeed. And I still am not inclined to hold my breath *waiting* for some-
thing like a value-added tax to replace the robbery of both my paycheck
and of my own present investments.

> >   > I am off to Europe for a month
> 
> >   Hmmmmm....to which  Wonderland Continental Utopia that the PC Democratic
> >   Party crowd aches so to carbon-copy over here, I wonder......
> 
> Probably off to his home in the Netherlands.  I forget, is the
> Netherlands PC?
> 
Well, they've got two favorite PC originals---legalized drugs and 
state-sanctioned sex.  Makes them a real powerhouse in Europe, correct?
This from the country that folded easiest under the German offensive
in World War II.  No wonder. 

> Where do *you* come from, Harry?
> 
Depends on the context in which you're asking.  Geographically, from the 
Midwest heartland of the USA.   Figuratively speaking, from the
heart and mind----"compassion" and "sensitivity" on a limited
basis, tho.  As they should be. 

                                                  H.R. Holm

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