HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fischer@viper.eng.ufl.edu (Randy Fischer)
Subject: problem accessing SCSI drive for cloning from IDE drive.
Organization: /eng/foobar0/fischer/.organization
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:23:01

Hello networthy;  

I have a Mach 3.0 (MK78/UX38) system on an i486 with an Adaptec board
(AHA-174X set up in standard mode -- it should be 1542B compatible); I
am booting from an IDE disk with a complete system, and I want to
clone this to the SCSI drive as per the instructions in the
i386_install.doc document.

Unfortunately, Mach seems to want to believe that the second disk is
/dev/hd1, instead of the correct /dev/sd0 -- I am dropped in the
kernel debugger twice on boot up -- here is the relevant part of the
boot:

   hdc0: port = 1f0, spl = 5, pic = 14
   hd0:  at hdc0 slave 0, stat = 104, spl = 5, pic = 14
   hd0:  130 Meg, cyls 1001, heads 15, secs 17, precomp 0
?! hd1:  at hdc0 slave 1, stat = 104, spl = 5, pic = 14
?! hd1:  331 Meg, cyls 316, heads 64, secs 32, precomp 0
   Adaptec Board [id43], rev AC, options x42
   ahac0:  [dma ch 5 intr ch 11] my SCSI id is 7,  target(s) at 0
   ahac0:  at atbus1
!? aha:  OVRUN
!? stopped at _aha_initiator_intr+0x10a [scssi_aha15_hdw.o]: int $3
!? db> cont
!? rz0: at ahac0 slave 0 (disk SEAGATE st1400 7336)aha:OVRUN
!? stopped at _aha_initiator_intr+0x10a [scssi_aha15_hdw.o]: int $3
   db> cont

And the boot proceedes normally from there.  But none of the disk
prep/inspection utilities will work on /dev/rsd0c  -- nor on
/dev/rhd1c -- so I don't get far with the cloning.

You can see that at least on the line ``Adaptec board'' the IRQ is
the correct value 11.  The IDE drive is jumpered as for a single
drive, the setup utility lists only the IDE drive as a hard disk,
drive D is ``Not Installed'' as I understand is proper for a second
SCSI drive.

Any one have any ideas as to what may be the problem?

					Randy Fischer
					fischer@slothrop.math.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: Parallel Port Ethernet Driver Support
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:19:55 GMT

In article <19690@durer.cme.nist.gov>, schnee@sail.ncsl.nist.gov (Rick Schneeman) writes:

  Has anyone heard of a Parallel Port Ethernet driver for mach 3.0.
  Something that would enable a Xircon printer port enet device, for
  example, to link portables/notebooks to the lan. 

I had a short conversation with someone from Xircon about a year ago.  They
didn't understand why someone would want to run anything other than DOS, and
weren't interested in giving out the necessary technical information to
write a driver.
From: md3z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Denovich)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Any Mach Binaries?
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:29:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Eerh7Pq00VAt8960kZ
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Hi,

I know it is taboo not to compile your own software, but I was wondering
if anyone had ported some interesting stuff to mach 2.5/2.6

I am really interested in an Xbased News Reader and Zephyr if anyone has
tackled that.


Question two:  Are fon'ts machine specific?  I would like to use fonts
on Andrew for X11R5 on my machine running mach.   

Ok?

Thanks,

Mark Denovich

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From: ghosh@cs.pitt.edu (Sunondo Ghosh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Help wanted
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:53:29 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

I wish to find out what is the work being done currently by the group
working on the Mach OS. I would also like to know what are the future
plans for the development of Mach. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sunondo
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
From: uli@cats.muh.dec.com (OOOO-OpenObjectOrientedOgre)
Subject: Re: Mach on Mac (MachTen)
Keywords: PC, Macintosh, Mach, X11, HW requirements, costs, performance
Reply-To: uw@decum.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:04:38 GMT


Hi,

I'm planning to upgrade my PC (Mess-DOS ...) to a Mac (unfortunately no
Quadra!)
I know that there are versions of the software I currently use
on my PC for the Mac (Zortech C++, OWL Guide).
But I'm also interested in getting a real Unix at the same time.
[And, no, I don't want one of the n+1 (n from N) Intel-Unix-systems.]
So, I've some of the "forgotten [...] important question"s:

1) How much memory and disk space is needed? - Performance (e.g. on a LC)?
2) How to get an Internet access with MachTen? - Costs?
3) Is X11 available on MachTen?  (Performance on LC?) Tape necessary? Or CD?

Thanks a lot in advance!

        uli
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From: gthaker@fergie.dnet.ge.com (Gautam H. Thaker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: Making Mach build with non-CMU tools (suggestions)
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:35:58 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.mach
Organization: GE Advanced Technology Laboratories


   In article <STEINARB.92Oct4172851@hagtorn.idt.unit.no> in gnu.misc.discuss 
   steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang) writes:

   [article raises many excellent points about difficulties of working with
    CMU makes, etc. It suggested alternatives, such as chaning over to GNU make
    or changing more widely available makes to understand CMU makefiles,
    but raised the following question.]

      The question: is who is going to do it? CMU don't have any incentives
      for the time being. OSF? FSF? I don't know.

      - Steinar

Can someone from the CMU mach project please post their plans for MACH work
over the next year or so? In which areas will we see significant
activities?  Is the MKnn count for releases likely to continue in to
foreseeable future?  Will the center of activities ever shift to OSF? FSF?
If it is OSF than the new licensing issues will severly hamper access by
the research community.

Gautam H. Thaker (gthaker@atl.ge.com) 609-866-6412 (fax x6397. Dialcom 8-777)
GE Adv. Tech. Lab., MS 145-2; Route 38; Moorestown, NJ 08057.  767-4396 (home)
--
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Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: jdoyle@phy.umassd.edu (J.D.)
Subject: 1024-cylinder limit for hard drives under Mach 3.0-78 i386 ?
Keywords: mfm hd.c 
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:51:19 GMT

	Does the generic i386 AT type disk device driver limited to 
support drives with 1024 or less cylinders? We've been encoutering
inconsistent behavior while trying to attach a Maxtor XT2190 MFM
drive (1221 cylinders,15 heads). In the past months, we've attached a
variety of drives to the machine without any problems.

	A quick peruse of the sources led me to see that the VTOC header
has entries for start and end cylinder numbers ; the comment field
mentioned
something about this being a 10-bit number (viola - 1024).


....... Jim Doyle    (jdoyle@mdphya.phy.umassd.edu)
From: pparekh@sedona.intel.com (Pankaj Parekh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Need some technical Info.
Keywords: MACH, Micro Kernal
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:52:44 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: pparekh@sedona


Hi,
	Can someone give me pointers to get some technical information on
MACH? I am interested in characteristics, features, micro kernal design
information. Any small help is appreciated. 

Thanks,
Pankaj
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 5000 W. Chandler Blvd.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Subject: Re: memory allocation problem
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:36:50 GMT

root@groucho.GUN.de (Michael Diehl) writes:

> The following fails with bus-error if I try to allocate more than 5 MByte.
>
z. main()
> { 
> printf ("  %d  ",malloc(6 *1024*1024));
> printf ("  %d  ",malloc(6)); 
> }

> honey@citi.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman) writes:
|> is this a limit problem?  type unlimit and try again.
|> 
|> 	peter

If ulimit is set then malloc _should_ return 0 not take a bus error.

David.
Lines: 11
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 20:19:49 MDT
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: want source for top under MACH 4.3
Reply-To: cliftf@alaska.et.byu.edu
From: cliftf@alaska.et.byu.edu (Fred Clift)

Quick question - has anyone already gone to the trouble of porting top
to mach?  I'm running mach 4.3 on an ibm RT workstations.  Before I go
re-inventing the wheel, I just thought I'd ask..

---> fred

---
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Systems Programmer CAEDM - BYU
cliftf@byu.edu
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From: hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: NFS for 486 PC running MACH 3.0
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:16:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

gthaker@fergie.dnet.ge.com (Gautam H. Thaker) writes:

>Yes, I got NFS up just *yesterday* on our 486 under MACH 3.0
>(MK78/UX38); My understanding: you have to be an academic site, and
>you need to get a letter from Sun authorizing you to get the NFS
>source and present it to CMU; this is tantamount to having a complete
>Sun source license these days (I believe that there used to be some
>seperate academic NFS license that Sun no longer supports).

It's possible that this has changed, since we did our NFS licensing in
late 91.  However at that time, a complete Sun source license was not
acceptable for getting CMU's Mach.  We had one, and we still had to
get the separate NFS license.
From: honey@citi.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: memory allocation problem
Date: 16 Oct 1992 00:47:14 GMT
Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan
Distribution: world
Reply-To: honey@citi.umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: hone.citi.umich.edu

is this a limit problem?  type unlimit and try again.

	peter
From: schnee@sail.ncsl.nist.gov (Rick Schneeman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Parallel Port Ethernet Driver Support
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:25:18 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Has anyone heard of a Parallel Port Ethernet driver for mach 3.0.
Something that would enable a Xircon printer port enet device, for
example, to link portables/notebooks to the lan. 


=======================================================
Richard Schneeman
NIST/CSL
schnee@sail.ncsl.nist.gov
=======================================================
From: md3z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Denovich)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: How Do I INSTALL Mach 3.0
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:13:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.keqfq2W00WB8IqzVUq
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



I have 2.5 up and running.....

I also have supped the mach3 collection (cmu binaries)
                        (I am on cmu campus)

Now what....


I have read most of the info on mach.cs.cmu.edu and can't seem to find
anyting about installing 3.0


Any help?


Mark
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: scherrer@mtxinu.COM (Deborah Scherrer)
Subject: Referring to Mach386
Organization: mt Xinu, Berkeley, CA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 20:39:39 GMT

There seems to be some confusion of terms here.  "Mach386" is the
name of mt Xinu's Mach product for the 386/486.  The system includes
the 2.5/2.6 Mach kernel and most of the 4.3BSD system in binary
form, also NFS, X11R4 (soon R5), and Motif.  The Mach 3.0 kernel,
complete with source, is available as an add-on, along with a DOS
server.

If you want to refer to CMU's or OSF's or other folks' Mach
distributions, you'll want to make sure you use their correct names,
to avoid confusing people.  Thanks.
-- 
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Mt Xinu, Inc.                               ..!uunet!mtxinu!scherrer
2560 Ninth Street
Berkeley, CA  94710                                     510-644-0146
From: twillis@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas E Willis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: kernel tracer for mach...
Summary: is there such a beast?
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:39:37 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Electrical Engineering

quick question (hopefully not an faq - i just started following c.o.mach).

does anybody know of a kernel tracer for mach 2.5/3.0?  i'm interested in
collecting some traces from both a monolithic and microkernel for some
research i'm involved in and i'd rather not re-invent the wheel...

thanks in advance for any pointers and help you can give me...
--
    - t
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Purdue Electrical Engr. / If you do not understand, things are just as they
twillis@ecn.purdue.edu / are." - Zen Koan
From: honey@citi.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: NFS for 486 PC running MACH 3.0
Date: 14 Oct 1992 01:14:57 GMT
Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan
Distribution: world
Reply-To: honey@citi.umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: hone.citi.umich.edu

Charles Hedrick writes:
|> It's possible that this has changed, since we did our NFS licensing in
|> late 91.  However at that time, a complete Sun source license was not
|> acceptable for getting CMU's Mach.  We had one, and we still had to
|> get the separate NFS license.

that's how it stood as recently as a month ago.

	peter
From: mrt+@CS.CMU.EDU (Mary Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: Need some technical Info.
Keywords: MACH, Micro Kernal
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:41:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bw7y55.MEE.1
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

---------------------------------

Technical and other information about Mach can be obtained via anonymous
FTP from the machine mach.cs.cmu.edu. When you connect to that machine
you are in the directory /usr/mach/public. The subdirectory doc contains
the Mach Bibliography (mach_bib.{doc,ps}) which inlcudes abstracts of the
documents and where to find them.

					Mary Thompson
					Project Mach Distribution Manager
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: root@groucho.GUN.de (Michael Diehl)
Subject: memory allocation problem
Organization: Diehl, Hungerdunger, Hungerdunger & McCormick
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:49:25 GMT

I'm trying to allocate quite a bit of memory under mach 2.6 (i486-platform, 
16 MB RAM).

The following fails with bus-error if I try to allocate more than 5 MByte.

main()
{ 
printf ("  %d  ",malloc(6 *1024*1024));
printf ("  %d  ",malloc(6)); 
 }

I tried combinations of standard malloc, gnu-malloc, cc (gcc1.36) and 
gcc2.2.2 . 
My rather unprofessional fiddeling with vm_allocate and some associated calls
yields the same unpleasent result.

Any help welcome, Michael


-- 
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Jordanstr. 39   | "Ich moechte nie Mitglied in einem Klub sein, der Leute wie 
4000 Duesseldorf|  mich als Mitglieder aufnimmt"     Groucho Marx
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: Stephen Aylward <aylward@nn5.mdc.com>
Subject: mach for mac
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6FB2A829301033F@d314m1.mdc.com>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:24:34 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Corporation - Neural Network Laboratory
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:20:15 GMT

What is the status of the PD port of ach to macs.   I understand that
beta versions are
up and running.   What is the expected release date?

			Stephen Aylward

I realize that a AT&T source lic. might be required.   Any additional
info on that?
From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: MacMach
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:32:42 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

I know the MacMach release is on indefinite hold pending the whole AT&T
lawsuit thing being resolved; but is there any reason why the Mach-only
code couldn't be made available publically?  I don't see how the machine
dependent code is any different from that for i386at, luna88k, mips, etc...
If not, why not just merge it into the general mk release?

-- 

Dan S.
Xref: sparky comp.os.mach:1466 comp.unix.misc:3920 comp.sys.mac.misc:17685 comp.sys.mac.system:12708
From: pl@DoCS.UU.SE (Per Lindgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Mach on Mac (MachTen)
Date: 12 Oct 1992 13:02:52 GMT
Organization: Dept. of computer systems, Upsala univeristy
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: apteryx.docs.uu.se


I have a question about an implementation of Mach on Macs. Tenon Intersystem
have a "product" called MachTen, which is a Mach 2.5 implementation that runs
on the Apple Macintosh. My only source of information has been some sales
brochures... 
 - Is it a "good product" (whatever that may be!)?
 - Can I use it to develop "real" unix programs?
 - How fast is it (I intend to runit on a Quadra 950)?
 - Is it practical to run MachTen and System 7 at the same time?
 - As I understand it, MachTen is implemented as an Mac application. How does 
   that affect things; what can I do and what can't I do (compared to running
   plain Mach on a Sun, say)
  ...
  ...
If I have forgotten some important question, answer it anyway!

Please respond to me directly, since I don't read this news group on a 
regular basis. I'll post a summary if the answers are interesting.

Thank you for your help!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: bcotton@sergei.MITRE.org (Robert T. Cotton)
Subject: Mac Mach Mailing list
Organization: MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:15:39 GMT


I remember someonw posting the address of the MacMach mailing list to
this group.  Does anyone have that address or any information on MacMach.

Thanks for your time,
Bob
Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel
From: johnson@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ralph Johnson)
Subject: Re: Documenting programs written in OOLs
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:32:35 GMT

mwu@orion.oac.uci.edu (Matt Wu) writes:

>Is there a particularly good way to document classes/application code
>that works especially well with object-oriented languages?  I haven't
>been exposed to a great deal of object-oriented code, but the 
>documentation that I have seen seem to be organized by classes, with
>descriptions for the methods in each class.  

Class documentation is important, but it is not system documentation.
Good system documentation must describe typical scenarios of use, it
must explain how objects work together, and it should be top down.

I have a paper "Documenting Frameworks with Patterns" that will be
presented at OOPSLA in a couple of weeks.  You can get it by anonymous
ftp from st.cs.uiuc.edu in /pub/st80_r4/hotdraw/Hotdraw-Documentation.ps,
where its appendix is serving as the documenation for a software package.
From: rmartin@donner.Rational.COM (Bob Martin)
Subject: Re: Structured Analysis & Object Oriented Design
Organization: Rational
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:49:01 GMT

anton@cc.gatech.edu (Annie I. Anton) writes:


|I'm interested in knowing if structured analysis is ever used 
|(successfully) as a front-end analysis activity leading into an 
|object oriented design.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
|Can someone recommend some relevant papers/books?

|It seems that using the products of a structured analysis as a
|front-end to object oriented design is possible but certainly not
|desirable.  Any comments?

It is certainly not desirable.  Whether it is possible or not is a
matter for some debate.  The paradigms are so different that a
functionaly decomposed analysis will not drive an OO design effort
very well.

But there is a more fundemental problem than that.  OOA and OOD are
not separate processes, and are generally not performed in separate
phases.   The two are performed concurrently, with lots of iteration
between analysis and design concepts.  Moreover, it is not uncommon
for portions of the project to be implemented and tested while other
portiosn are still undergoing analysis.  

--
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R. C. M. Consulting                       Object Oriented Analysis
2080 Cranbrook Rd.                        Object Oriented Design
Green Oaks, Il 60048 (708) 918-1004       C++
From: paul@allink.com (paul reiber)
Subject: Re: FOUND: a good unix DOMF (make that D-OODB)...
Organization: NYNEX ALLINK Company
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:08:07 GMT

For all those who've asked for ``which one I found'':

- The list of OODB's mentioned by Stewart Clamen
  (clamen@cs.cmu.edu) in other comp.object articles
  includes all of the major commercial players in the
  field. (disclaimer and all that, sorry if someone's
  been missed)

- The STONE system seems, at first glances, to be what I
  would have used if I needed to experiment at no cost.

- The actual products I'm considering, and the criteria
  for selection of those products, is something I'm not
  at liberty to discuss. Sorry.


-Paul

If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, and
it walks like a duck, it's a damned good duck simulator.

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Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.databases
From: czerny@doberman.cps.msu.edu (Barbara Czerny Dr. Ni)
Newsgroups: comp.object
Subject: Reflection?
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:43:00 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, CPS Department

I am interested in finding out what the term
reflection actually means in relation to classes
and objects, and how it differs from inheritance.

Thanks in advance,

Barb
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Newsgroups: comp.object
From: kivi@cc.tut.fi (Kivi Riitta)
Subject: OOD-Tools
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 06:53:10 GMT



subject: OOD-Tools

Does anyone know wherefrom to obtain for the Sun-environment a program or
graphics library containing graphical design symbols of OOD?


- Riitta Kivi -

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Computing Centre				fax:   +358 31 162172      
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From: thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet)
Newsgroups: comp.object
Subject: Re: Object-Oriented Prolog
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:56:42 GMT
Organization: International Foundation for Internal Freedom

I just saw a book today called, "Logic & Objects".  It outlines
a simple object extension to Prolog, called "L&O".  The book
includes a preprocessor in Prolog that translates L&O into
Prolog.

You can FTP the code from some UK site listed in the book.

-- 

Lance Norskog

Data is not information is not knowledge is not wisdom.
Newsgroups: comp.object