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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:32:00 PST
From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      stupidity

>This is turning into the <tragedy> of my life.  I think I am being
>so clear, and in fact I am just a bunch of <muddle>....  I'm happy
>with public *or* private votes...  just vote... only 7 hours to go.
>--ggs

You just don't get it, do you?!?  These people are friends, gilbert.  I'll be
damned if I'll call one of my friends dull or uninteresting or boring in the
name of "fun".  Eight-year olds think that kind of stuff is funny.

Natalie said it right.  You have a strange (and not very funny, imo) sense of
humor.  Take your silly game and go home.  You've got my vote as the most
tactless idiot on the list.

Chris

p.s. yes, you did drive judith off the list.  I would dearly love to post what
she said. Courtesy prevents me from doing so.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:59:00 EDT
From:         Theresa Wild <TWILD@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Joan's address

Could anyone, especially Joan Boorstein, send me her address.  I have
a note I'd like to send, but can't seem to get the address straight

Thanks.

Theresa
twild@uriacc.uri.edu
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: RE: blinking lights

> Pasadena (CA, not TX) has these, but there are signs that say "Smile!
>  You're on
> camera!" or something like that, to warn you.
>
> Emily <ecz5ejh@mvs.oac.ucla.edu>


Not that it matters--but I did say Texas HAD the things.  I didn't know
California still does.

And when you say "warn"--do you mean that you're given a chance to slow
down before the pic is taken, or does the smile merely notify you that
your cheque should be in the mail?

-Mka
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Re: Mama Judith

*** Resending note of 10/01/92 22:18

>What is all this grieving over Mama Judith? Why did she leave
>and why if you all want her so much wont she return>
>MGarber

Well, you could almost always depend on Mama Primate to give good, considerate
advice.  I, for one, valued her opinions.  As for why she left, why not write
her in private.  She'll probably tell you.   And I think she will return ...
but just not right now.  Many of us get upset and leave, OK maybe not so
many, ... guess not too many sensitive like myself.  But we come back, a little
tougher than before....

                        Peace,
                              Don
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 6 Oct 1992 04:40:34 GMT
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In a previous article, tracy@UTEXAS.EDU (Tracy LaQuey Parker) says:

>> just what i was gonna ask....my mind is blank.....WHO did the
>> Joshua Judges Ruth album???`
>
>Lyle Lovett. Got him on my mind 'cause I'm going to see him tomorrow night at
>an Austin City Limits taping.
>
>--Tracy LaQuey Parker
>  tracy@utexas.edu
If this screen could handle ansi, it would be green with <envy>.  I wanna 
go home to the armadillo!
By the way, Tracy, have you posted in here before?  If not welcome.
[Anne, we may have fresh newbie!  Get the spices ready!]

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Mensa test

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:23:00 CDT Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815) said:
>I did, but will refrain from posting the solution in case others
>are still trying it.
>
>Steve Karlson
>
>Hint: The problem reminds me of a math.legend about Gauss

About finding the sum of the integers from 1 to 100?

Evelyn
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:45:51 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Results of the WFF

The performance of *ts* is summarized below.

WINNER:
Most confusing		with 13 votes
Most clever		with  8 votes
Most irritating		with  7 votes
Foulest language	with  8 votes

RUNNER UP:
Most unpleasant		with  5 votes
Dullest stories		with  3 votes
Most postings		with  2 votes
Most boring life	with  1 vote

ALSO RAN:
Most pleasant, Most interesting stories, Most informative in a factual
way, Asks the dumbest questions, Nastiest to newbies, Nicest to newbies,
Talks most about SO, Talks most about himself, Talks most about words,
Best all-around poster boy.
_______________________________________________________________________

The people's voice has spoken. I would like to thank my mother. And
also all those of you who related to me in this intensely frustrating,
but somehow well-worth-it quest.

I am undoubtedly the most confusingly clever and irritatingly foul-
mouthed character on the list. To say nothing of unpleasantly clever
and irritatingly foul-mouthed, or to put it in other words, cleverly
foul-mouthed and confusingly irritating.

A detailed analysis of the above tabulation follows, by the most enigmatic
(and confusing) list-person himself.

Right now, suffice it to say, that a true genius is always very con-
fusing (and enigmatic), and frequently very irritatingly unpleasant in
his foul-mouthed cleverness.

tushar
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From:         "(Peter Flynn)" <pflynn@CURIA.UCC.IE>
Subject:      Re: Shell Suits
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>pflynn@CURIA.UCC.IE ((Peter Flynn)) writes (thinking he's adressing a
>real words-discussion group like alt.usage.english):

Nope, just the line to my news machine is down, and my curiosity was getting
the better of me :-)

///Peter
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
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hey, any wordslers out there do Welsh?   no, not the grapejelly.....
                                                                      dan
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Dear People

Over the summer, there have been extensive e-mail discussions between the
GAELIC-L owners and myself, plus one or two others, about the possibility
of setting up a WELSH-L for the Welsh language (plus maybe Cornish and Breton).
We've agreed that, at least provisionally, it should be based at IRLEARN
using Listserv software, on exactly the same basis as GAELIC-L.  Moves are
afoot to find a native Welsh speaker to help me out.  Myself and a co-convenor
have been in charge of an informal private mail distribution list for a short
while, but it seemed right to extend this to a full WELSH-L.  So I'd be
interested in your helpfile on how to set up a Listserv list, plus any other
tips you can pass on.

All the best

Briony Williams

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    (A quarter-Irish Englishwoman working on Welsh in Scotland)
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Subject:      Re: ggs provides the opening...
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Congratulations, Rita Leonard and Ray.  Have a happy marriage and keep the
friendship going.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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              5 Oct 1992 20:47:13 EDT from <IBAILEYTW%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU>

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:47:13 EDT <IBAILEYTW%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU> said:
>Hey.  We're new on the system and we want to know who is out there.  We're
>young, locked and cocked cadets at The Virginia Military Institute and we will

DO WHILE ASSHOLES > 0

I will not respond to assholes....

I will not respond to assholes.....

I will not respond to assholes.....




dan
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From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Scanners
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How expensive are scanners decent enough to make decent gifs?  I know
that the prices of scanners vary enormously -- presumably the quality
also varies enormously.  I was wondering where the line can be drawn
between the junk and the decent.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: I was going to wait until Christmas, but . . .
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:01:46 GMT
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On Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:54:00 CDT, "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1@NIU.BITNET> wrote:
> I don't suppose it ever occured to you to simply notify the list that
> you had a program that animated some screens with Christmas-themed
> things, and offer to make it available by private post to people who had
> the proper hardware and software, rather than dump the whole thing to
> the list?  Fighting entropy, indeed!

He hasn't been around long enough to remember the toasting of newbies
over the crackling log fire when this went on last Christmas.

To quote a famous posting, HO-FUCKING-HO...

G
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: A Story Coming Up
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 11:55:44 GMT

A <bitter> brew with a *grandchild* in it??!!  Oh, Nooooo, say it isn't so!

--bayla 
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Question about MS-Word in PC and MAC

>>I think he was looking for WORD-PC@HVRFORD.BITNET or WORD-MAC@HVRFORD.BITNET.
>>(They're 'mailserv' rather than 'listserv' lists.)  WORDS-L is still the best
>>list for *all* questions tho.
>>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

>This list is at Haverford College, a school near me. It does not have
>bitnet anymore, so I am what happened to this list.
>
>later
>
>alec

For what it's worth, the current address for that list is
WORD-PC@ufobi1.uni-forst.gwdg.de.

The poster found the right place, by the way.

--------
Michael E. Macmillan (macmillm@ewc)
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: There *is* a god . . .

>>>All I can say to this is:
>>> There *is* a god.... there *is* a god....
>>>--ggs
>>
>>There's a Polish cartoonist--Mleczko--who did a great piece: a guy in a
>>raincoat walking into a foul, windy rain with montrous pigeon-hole
>>apartment buildings in the background.  He repeats to himself, "I belong
>to
>>the sphere of European culture . . . I belong to the sphere of European
>>culture."
>>apartment buildings in the background.  He repeats to himself, "I belong
>to
>>the sphere of European culture . . . I belong to the sphere of European
>>culture."
>>Secularly,
>>-Mka
>>-K
>.
>Say what?  Is this a non-equator or what?  I mean, is this response
><oriented>toward the -ggs quote reprinted above...  Or am I just
>waltzing around with an empty <dense> card?
>--ggs (puzzled in paradise...)

About the <orientation> of the <supposed> non-equator:

India, it is a mere concept.  It is no more a country than the equator.


-K

-Mka
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject: Re: ATEP (31 - 32)
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              92 5:29 pm

> Actually, the exact vote was worded:  rita (Nico the sex puppet)
> I saw it myself!

	Was it BWP who voted that way?  You can tell me..

Rita
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Subject:      Puppy love
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>         /\_____/\
>        -/ ''''' \-
>         {''o o''}    Muffy, the terror of the Pasco Jungles!
>         {  \^/  }
>        ////'''\\\\

Hello Muffy *and* Bernard.  Thought you would be interested in knowing that
"we" got a new puppy today.  She is part labrador and part cocker spaniel
and is about four months old.  I want to call her "Suede" and my husband
wants to call her "Sugar" and despite the fact that she is a gift to him
from our daughter, I do think she loves me best.  :-)
doris
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:25:41 -0400
From:         "(Agnes Kruchio)" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Superlurker
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              "WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Oct 6, 92 8:14 am

>
> >
> > Agnes,
> >
> > I hope your synapses are in better shape now. :-)
>
> They do feel themselves again, thanks - amazing what a few hours of sleep will
> do (with emphasis on "a few")...too bad they wil be tied up most of
						^^^^
						mabbe not...I should
						watch whom/what I'm
						calling loony..among
						other things,
						it's our national currency,
						after all (the C$1 coin
						has a LOON on it, with
						predictable results.)

So, Carolyn, <supersleuth>, take a few memory pills and let's have it!
Ta -
Agnes
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:10:42 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: stupidity
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On Tue, 29 Sep 1992, (Bayla Singer) wrote:

> enough people who actually *believe* it -- and are somehow surprised to
> find out that all women aren't menstruating at the same time!  (And these

You know that legend about how women living together synchronize their
menstrural cycles to each other so that they eventually are all cycling
roughly together?

It's true ;-)

-abh
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:30:51 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Cincinnati dialect
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Someone on alt.usage.english furnished me with a word identified as
Cincinnati dialect.  It's from Dictionary of American Regional English
(DARE):

    g o e t t a  =  similar to scrapple: oatmeal and ground meat boiled
                    together, cooled in a mold, then sliced and fried.
                    ORIGIN UNKNOWN

Anyone familiar with this word?

Not in AHD3, so my question about what words there are labeled as
Cincinnati dialect is still unanswered.

Does someone know what the status of DARE is?  The person who read me
the definition above over the phone says the alphabet is complete only
through somewhere in the H's.

The fellow on alt.usage.english who came up with the word was consulting
an index to the DARE, whether a comprehensive one or just through H he
did not say.

Any information appreciated.

brad
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:15:00 PDT
From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Blinking Lights

> As I was driving back from Tuscaloosa late this afternoon, I started
> wondering whether the blinking-headlight warning of speed traps might
> be regional.  It happens constantly in this part of the country, but I
> don't remember seeing a single headlight warning the whole time I was
> wandering around on highways in the Northeast last July.  Is it regional,
> or is it just that I've never happened upon a speed trap in other parts of
> the country?
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

We use our high beams to warn oncoming cars that the cops are lying in wait
ahead. This was one of the first things my friends told me when I was learning
how to drive. Of course, the cops in this part of LA seem to use the same traps
over and over, so we all know where they are anyway. And the black-and-whites
(or black-and-normals as people here cynically call them) are easy to spot.

Emily <ecz5ejh@mvs.oac.ucla.edu>
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: banned computer material
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              92 9:51 pm

> This forwarded message may interest readers of words-l.  Note in
> particular the sites that have restricted "rude" messages.  It came to me
> after being forwarded several times and I'm unable to determine the
> originator.  I think eff may have had something to do with it.

	Carl Kadie is the perpetrator of this list.  Carl Kadie runs
a group called Computers and Academic Freedom, which has a home on
the EFF machines.  Any study of censorship on the net should probably
start and end with Carl, since he has collected more information on
it than anyone we're aware of.  Of course, no one knows whether or not
his views are correct since there has been no court precedent set on the
subject.

	Anonymous FTP to ftp.eff.org

	cd pub/caf

	And look around.  You can also request files via e-mail; to learn
how to do so, send "help" to archive-server@eff.org.

	Carl also sends out a digest of the traffic that hits his
computers and academic freedom newsgroup.  Send e-mail to
caf-request@eff.org for more info.

Rita
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:24:39 EDT
From:         PBARFOOT%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Storytellers ?

 I am off tomorrow for the National Storytelling Festival in
Jonesborough, Tenn. . Are any other wordslers planning to be
there ?
                                                  Br Paul
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:19:49 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: the company she keeps!

Natalie says:

>                          If Santa sends a direct note to any of you
>(i.e., not through the list), examine the headers for the evidence.

He's not likely to send me one. Was he stupid enough to send you one?

>Listservs, however, delete the identifying lines.

They don't, and you have said so yourself once.

tushar
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*** Resending note of 09/28/92 11:08

>what).....  Don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, really.  Is
>anybody out there going to get upset?
>--ggs

Of course they are ..... now send me a tally by private mail so I can be
upset privately ...and throw rocks publically ;-)

Don, still trying to aircraft GIF source..
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Model Railroad

>ROFL!  That's an excellent analogy, Chris.  What's your brother been
>tying all these years?
>
>Steve Karlson

Mostly n-scale but in the past few years he's been trying his hand at HO.  He
is really rather attracted to the northeast (Maine) lines.  As far a sheer
artistic capability in our family, Paul got a good chunk of it.  He's also a
very decent writer and page-layout person (which, at second glance, may go
hand-in-hand with designing and laying out railroads).

What he can do with a bit of lichen and a matchstick...well, you know what I'm
talking about.  It's sort of like you wish you could make yourself as small as
one of the people in the layout and go exploring.  He's got to have a lot of
stories in his head that will probably never see the light of day except
through modeling.  And it has a lot to do, for me anyway, with what you can't
see.  You can imagine all sorts of things going on in the little store or in
the caves in the hill, or in the station.  What are those loggers talking
about?  What is that guy buying?  It's pretty easy to drift off and become part
of that world.  Sort of like reading a really good novel. You don't even
realize you're reading or even turning the pages. It just happens to you.

Anyway, sorry about the ramble.

Chris
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From:         IBAILEYTW%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: NEW ON THE SYSTEM
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Marty,  Maybe you are just jealous because you had friends as a kid.  If you
did myabe you would know what it means to be able to trust someone and work
together.  Go get in the truck and look for a friend while you are looking for
a life.  Loser!

                              Country
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Subject:      Re: Carpe diem (WORDS-L Cookbook
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Posted on 27 Sep 1992 at 00:05:48 by Entropy Warrior
>Cover carp with shit
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>Throw away because you can't eat carp.

Not covered w/ shit, no, but I've eaten it in Japan. It's good.
Are you one of those people who think catfish are inedible, too?

Karen
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