From: ipacs@solomon.technet.sg (IPACS PTE LTD)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Discussion on Malaysian sultanate amendments
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:39:26 GMT
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Othman Ahmad (eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg) wrote:
: ROLAND U (sa2263263@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg) wrote:
: : In article <1993Jan27.022443.26974@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes...
: : >ROLAND U (sa2263263@v9000) wrote:
: : >: In article <1993Jan26.083149.27461@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes... 
: : >    ^
: : >You think is definitely your invention. It is not the way I heard it.
: : > 
: : Ok..alllow me to rephrase it. i've read and now remember it being published in 
: : the Strait Times that the wards reserved for the royalty will now be open to the
: : public as they are unused most of the time. 
:
: I do not recall reading this. Which date was this? If the sultan were in KL,
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^       
: he would be very stupid to go a government hostpital. The private hospitals
: are better equipped and better service.
	I do not recall any special rooms for the sultans in the hospitals that
: I had visited. Of course in Sabah only but I once visited Klang hospital. 
: I do not recall seing any special rooms for the sultans/kings. The point I'm
: trying to make is that not ALL hospitals MAY have those so called special
: privileges. It could be blown out of proportion.



You don't recall.  You've been lambasting everyone for presenting inaccurate
facts and now you claim that you aren't in full possession of the facts.

Straits Times Saturday Jan 23 1993
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ROYAL WARDS TO BE OPENED TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TOO

Kuala Lumpur - The public will soon be able to use wards in general
hospitals reserved for members of the royalty whenever they are vacant.  A
Health Ministry spokesman said on Thursday that the wards were previously
reserved for the use of the Malay rulers, their consorts and children.

No one else is allowed to occupy the wards even though they are vacant for
several months a year.

The spokesman said the move to open the wards to the public would generate
revenue for the ministry.

Patients who occupy the royal wards will be charged a rate being finalised
by the ministry.  It is understood that it will be slightly higher than the
rate for first-class wards.

The move to open the wards to the public followed a Cabinet decision on
Wednesday that all privileges, allocations and other entitlements to the
rulers other than those provided for by legislation will be withdrawn.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Dr Mahathir Mohamad had said that if it was found
that there was no written provision for royal wards in government hospitals,
this privilege would be withdrawn.

The spokesman said the ministry would now determine who among the royalty
would be allowed to occupy the wards besides the rulers and their immediate
families.

Records at the Kuala Lumpur General Hospital's royal ward show that
occupancy has been low.

A hospital spokesman said the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Sultan Azlan Shah,
stayed there for about 10 days five months ago.

The ward has been unoccupied since then.  The royal ward comprises two
suites with two rooms in each.  Each suite has a sitting room and a
bathroom. - NEW STRAITS TIMES


I cannot believe that you had the temerity to claim that others were
"inventing facts" when the only person doing any fabrication was yourself.

From what I can see, this is an issue you feel strongly about, but please
don't get carried away.  I hope your future discourse is tempered by
rational thought and SOLID FACT.

If you are unhappy with this reply, feel free to direct flames to my email
account.  Please do not waste any more bandwidth, which this group seems to
be becoming famous for.


Tan Wee Meng