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From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: C & C++
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:35:41 GMT

Can someone outline the differences between C and C++?  I'm going to be
learning C++ this spring, and would like to know what I'm facing.

I kinda know about OOP but even on that I'm not too sure, so any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks.

Amrit

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: VT100 Emulation...
Keywords: modem, vt100, emulation, communication
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:35:33 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

jdiamond@ctde18.intel.com (Jay Diamond) writes:

>I am searching for a communications package that will run on my //c
>that can emulate VT100 (so that I can use VI on a remote UNIX system).

>Does anyone know of an available package?

  What you want is Z-Link.  It's small, fast, does X& Y modem, full
VT100 (second only to TelCom-GS's :-) and best of all- it's written
by a totally rockin' dude by the name of Dave Whitney. Any more questions?
  Anyway, it should be on cco.caltech.edu, FTP.

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From: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Downloading/ARC files/ProTERM
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:47:08 GMT
Reply-To: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: schwarts@atlantic.cps.msu.edu


Here is what I am doing -- help:

        1) ftp to somewhere.
        2) set mode to binary by typing 'binary'
        3) transfer file by typing 'get <filename>'
        4) return to local
        5) enter Kermit mode
        6) set mode to binary by typing 'set file type binary'
        7) download file by typing 'send <filename>'
        8) set ProTERM to receive in Kermit mode a BIN file

All I get is errors!!!!!!!



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From: EFLORES@ALBION.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Laser Printer for Apple //e
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:57:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I too am looking for a laser printer for my Apple IIGS.  I just learned
from a dealer that the Starwriter is the one that was made for Apple,
it costs around $375.  I am told it is a bubble jet, and the cartidges
cost around $19. Let me know if you find more information.  ef
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Orca/C Function Call Disasters
Summary: Having problems with functions in Orca/C
Keywords: Orca C
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:36:09 GMT

Well... I have a program written in ANSI C which does not run after being
compiled under Orca/C.  I've already had to do some revisions to get it
to compile in the first place.  But now I'm having strange stack problems:

Here's a basic outline of the functions in question:

void function1(...) {
	.
	.
	x=function2();
	.
	.
	while (...)
		--(*wordary)= some expression (no function calls);
	.
	.
	return x;
}

The problem is this: this routine crashes on exit.  Using strategically
placed breakpoints, I found that the stack is in good condition immediately
before the while loop, but during the while loop, stuff is being pulled
off the stack -- including the return address from function1!!  Does this
make sense?  Why is this happening?

Anyway, if anyone has seen this kind of behavior, let me know.

BTW: I didn't write the program; it's a public domain utility that I'm
trying to build on the IIGS.

- Eric S.

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From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Trouble with VIAD
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:12:14 GMT

Has anyone had trouble getting Disk1 of VIAD to un-shrink?
I grabbed it off c.b.a2 when it came through, Disk2 un-shrank
but disk1 coughed up a lung! So, I went to ccosun.caltech.edu
and grabbed VIAD.D1.SDK (using "binary" transfers all the way)
but I got the same results! Normally, I have no troubles with
binscii'd or SHK/SDK file transfers. 

Anyone else with similar problems or is it just me?

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com

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From: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Subject: Re: New II GS Owner with Questions
Reply-To: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:20:08 GMT

John:

You won't have to select between GS/OS and ProDOS, since GS/OS will seamlessly
switch between the two when required.

ProDOS (8) is older 8-bit Disk Operating System that is used by standard
Apple II's.  ProDOS 8 has an accompanying file called BASIC.SYSTEM that
is a command line interface for performing stander file operations

CATALOG, RENAME, DELETE, etc.

GS/OS is the newer 16 bit program that does everything that ProDOS does, and
more.  GS/OS can read/write ProDOS volumes, along with larger GS/OS volumes.


If you have a Hard Disk, then you should be running on GS/OS.  There isn't
a command shell with GS/OS, but you can purchase a third party shell if you
want one.


If you want to perform file operations, the you should normally use the Finder
desktop program.  The Finder will automatically come up when you run GS/OS, 
although you can switch this to a third party program launcher if you wish.


I can't recommend any good books at this level, since most of the literature
I have is of a very technical nature.


In any case, ProDOS and GS/OS aren't mutually exclusive.  GS/OS is just a
faster and more capble 16-bit version of ProDOS.  ProDOS will only handle
volumes up to 32 MB in size.  GS/OS will go much further.  GS/OS is required
when running Desktop GS programs, and for useing new graphical desk 
accesories.

[MGM]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: has tr been ported by anybody?
Keywords: tr, unix-t0-II
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:18:33 GMT

kentm@aix.rpi.edu (Michael V. Kent) writes:

>The Davex shell (written by Dave Lyons himself) supports a tr command.  But
>it is ProDOS 8 text-only.  Otherwise, you might want to ask the GNO guys.

   Yep, we ported 'tr' to the IIgs.  GS/OS text-only :-) (i.e. GNO or
ORCA shell required). You might ask Derek Taubert to throw nl->cr conversion
into GScii. I haven't done enough NDA programming to whip this out without 
serious troubles.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Sound files...
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:59:45 GMT


To: Unknown User
Re: SoundConvert

Matt - I have to defer to Ian Schmidt to answer the question of how
SoundConvert manages to determine the sampling rate of a sound file. Since
Ian did some work on the SoundConvert package, I bet e knows. If he doesn't,
I could always send Mike Nuzzi an email, and ask him. Hmmm....sonce AOL now
has an Internet mail gateway, you could always ask him yourself. His address
is NUZZ@aol.com

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the sampling rate is
stored as the first couple of bytes in a binary sound file.

From my perspetive, I much prefer using SoundConvert to using rSounder. The
one time I did try rSounder, I didn't like that I had to guess what the
sampling rate was, and as many different rates as I entered, it was just way
too time consuming. With Mike Nuzzi's Sound Convert, it's just a matter of
clicking on a couple of buttons; one to load the sound and one to save the
sound as an rSound. No muss, no fuss.

Since I realize that maybe 1% of Apple IIGS owners actually own HCGS,
SoundConvert is not going to be able to be used by too many people. In fact,
in my upcoming inCider/A+ 'Way Cool System 6' article, I don;t think I even
mentioned the Triad Venture product, but did mention rSounder.

Joe Kohn
From: FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL ("ERIC S FORD")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: re: Resurrection!!!
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:17:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Paul Brandon writes:

>Re:  keeping the resurrected IIC vs getting a GS--
>The GS is not 'supported' significantly more than the IIC.  A GS augmented
>to the point where it is effective (accelerator, HD and interface, memory)
>is both expensive and tempermental.  If the IIC does what you want done,
>invest in a ZipChip accelerator (8mz for $100 or so).  Quality Computers
>just advertised a new HD for the IIC in their latest catalog (there IS
>some support!).

Is the fielding of NEW bells and whistles the definition of support?  Is 
the capacity to add new toys the only measure by which to decide between 
two (or more) computers?  I may be taking too narrow a view, but I don't 
see the connection.  If Apple refuses to make available replacement parts 
or denies third party interest in so doing, then I could see them guilty of 
non-support.  They haven't done that yet, to my knowledge.  IMHO the only 
real issue should be whether the //c does what the user wants.  If so, the 
decision is made.  If not, then which computer will.  If more than one 
will, then which one does it to the user's best satisfaction - be that by 
price, speed, or attractiveness of the chassis.  

Eric S. Ford
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: 1.AppleTalk 2.Fax/Modems
Date: 29 Sep 1992 06:39:18 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

<KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> so when can a GS use AppleTalk without setting slot seven to AppleTalk.

When it's a ROM 3, i.e. there's a megabyte of memory built in.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: PKBRANDON@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Identifying strange GS parts
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:11:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Note that the joystick port is routed to _both_ the DB-9 connector on the
back of the case _and_ a 16-pin DIP socket on the motherboard.  Both
should be checked.
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From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: Apple II hardware for sale
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:40:44 GMT


Misc. Hardware for the Apple II and IIgs
----------------------------------------

Applied Engineering
        Datalink 2400 Internal Modem                    -=-   $60
        For any Apple II with expansion slots.
        (Apple II, II+, IIe, and IIgs)

MDIdeas Inc.
        SuperSonic Multi-Channel Digitized Stero Card   -=-   $25
        For the Apple IIgs Only.


Both cards are in great condition, with the original box/packaging,
manuals, cables, and softwares.

I am selling these two card because I've upgraded, and they are just
sitting here on the shelf.  I am sure somebody out there can use them.


Reply to jimmys@ics.uci.edu for more info, or make reservation, etc.
         ------------------



Jimmy



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Help! Null Modem for IIgs?
From: <DBEHRENS@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 5 Oct 1992 16:21:25 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Hello.
 
I would like to know if it is at all possible to hook up an Apple IIgs
to an IBM compatible and exchange files via a null modem cable.
My local computer stores have no idea what an Apple IIgs is let alone
what you can do with it.  Please Help!!!!!
 
An extremely frazzled Miami University Student,
Dennis J. Behrens
DBehrens@MiamiU.Bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik)
Subject: tech questions
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:06:12 GMT


Hello,
 
During my absence I had some problems with the toolbox and GS/OS (and
wished I
had a modem...hmmm..). I hope someone here knows how to get rid of them!
(If DAVE is here, I would certainly appreciate his help QUITE A LOT!)
 
1. The toolbox manuals do not explain how to write a journaling driver.
I could
figure out how to record the different events, but I have no idea how to
play
back these commands.
Another question is which events need to be recorded..there are some
that occur
on every VBL ("Button", I think)!
 
2. Some asked me to modify the plot module (of GSymbolix, you guessed
it) so
that the program draws REALLY thin lines. GraphicWriter does this,
AppleWorks
should but can't do it, and I would like to. Any suggestions?
 
3. When a picture is being stretched vertically but not horizontally,
the font
is being scaled appropriately. (For example, this is necessary when
printing
pictures and text on the same page.) However, this has a not very nice
side
effect: strings in the picture tend to overlap. Is there a possibility
to force
the toolbox NOT to do this?
 
4. Someone started GSymbolix on a network (from a Mac). He told me that
files
are not loaded correctly. However, the files he mentioned are auxiliary
files
that are accessed only while the program is being initialized (just a
few
OPEN-READ-CLOSE GS/OS calls). These files are closed immediately.
The Mac was running system 7, and the IIGS system 6.0. Though I can't
think of
any break of rule, I would like to fix this problem...
 
So, that's enough for today..
 
Thanks for your help!
 
henrik

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: henigan@quando.quantum.de (Kevin Henigan)
Subject: Re: Help with Epson and GS/OS (was Re: Epson-compatible printers are icky... NOT)
Organization: Quantum Software GmbH, Dortmund, Germany
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:00:47 GMT

In article <m0mSlqD-0000GaC@crash.cts.com> kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:
]> From: seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah)
]> I've been having trouble getting GS/OS to coexist with my printers.
]> Currently, I have a Panasonic KXP-1124i printer running off of an ancient
]> Grappler+ interface card.  Drivers installed are BurgerBill's Grappler
]> driver (thank goodness for that) and the Epson compatible driver.
]> I've tried the various paper sizes...doesn't appear to make a difference.
]> Do applications just assume that everything is 72dpi and screw the Epson's
]> different rez graphics printing?  Help!  Help!
]
]Um. Due to the way you've stated it I assume you are using the Apple Epson
]driver. You might try the Harmonie printer drivers, as I have found they pay
]better attention to the real pixel size of the printer. 

OK, I've just got a GS, so novice question :-
	this means I can use my parallel Grappler+ interface
	card from me //e with my epson printer, good.

Where can I get these othre Epson printer drivers?

]                    -=> Message from Kim Brennan <=-
]                      (kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com)


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From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Intel Upgrades
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:26:57 GMT

Does anyone know what the _current_ ROMs are for the Intel 14,400ex and the
Intel 9600ex?

Amrit

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Sound files...
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:33:40 GMT


To: Paul Benson
RE: rSounder

That's great to hear, Paul, that you're working on a new version that will
(try to) determine the sampling rate when converting sounds to rSounds. I'll
be looking forward to taking it out on a test drive.

Joe Kohn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: "Volker Herrmann" <CD46@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject: Re: One World Software - NEW Group PR
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:42:10 GMT

Hi Wizards!
You develop that stuff - I'll buy it :)
What about data compression with Photonix III's hard disk backup
feature?
Keep up the best work
Volker
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: delozier@Condor.mcs.kent.edu (Greg Delozier)
Subject: HELP: Mouse cursor erases screen...
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:02:57 GMT


I'm trying to help a friend's wife upgrade her Apple IIgs, but I haven't
worked on an AppleII since the early 80's, so I'm both amazed that it has
come so far, and perplexed by a strange bug.

The computer ran games satisfactorily, for her kids, but she wanted to get
a hard drive, so she ordered one from Applied Engineering, I think, and I
put it in. It worked fine, but had version 6.0 of the operating system, and
now the II/gs complained about not having enough memory. So I had her order
a bunch of memory chips for the RAM card, put those in, and everything seems
to work fine... almost.

Problem is, when we run a game or other program that uses what looks like a
deeper than average screen (lots of colors....) for display of graphics, 
then moving the mouse cursor around erases some of the bit planes of the
screen. Or more accurately, doesn't restore them after the mouse moves. It's
a wierd effect: Some things on the screen aren't affected, like disk 
insertion messages, but the graphic screens, for instance, are erased to
black.

So what's going on here? I expended a few units of mental energy trying
to remember the Apple II screen mapping, but my old Apple II didn't have
that many colors, or a mouse, so I'm clueless. And as an engineer, I 
hate to be clueless...

Can someone shed some light on this mystery? Or is this such a common
IIgs problem that I should be embarrassed for asking?

-greg
Greg DeLozier/Senior Analyst, Loral Defense/Grad Student, Kent State Univ.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dchiu@eis.calstate.edu
Subject: NeoGeo Processor
Originator: adam@magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:06:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.175953.29170@news.columbia.edu> stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) writes:
>
>	Actually, the GameBoys are Z80 based, without index registers,
>or something like that.  But you could add the Lynx and the
>TurboGrafix (maybe the PC engine too) to the 65c02 based game
>machines.  A lot of game machines minus the Genesis, and the NeoGeo
>use 65xxx series chips.

NeoGeo uses 68000, as with Genesis (megadrive)
>
>>| Hal Bouma                          | Send mail to: HBouma@Macalstr.edu    |
>
>Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
>stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
>America On_Line:  DWS Steve
>Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
From: x91shafer1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: StyleWriter for GS
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:22:02 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I'm think about a StyleWriter for my IIgs.  Does anyone have one or know how
well it works with a gs?  How fast is it?  What is the output for both text and
graphics?

********************
Matthew Shafer
x91shafer1@gw.wmich.edu
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: StyleWriter for GS
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:32:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.232203.5618@gw.wmich.edu> x91shafer1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>I'm think about a StyleWriter for my IIgs.  Does anyone have one or know how
>well it works with a gs?  How fast is it?  What is the output for both text and
>graphics?
>
>********************
>Matthew Shafer
>x91shafer1@gw.wmich.edu
>

I recall that the current driver in System 6.0 for the Stylewriter will not
support printing in landscape.  Someone please confirm or correct this for us!


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From: lchavas@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU (Linda Catherine Havas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: My IIc: 1984-1992
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:34:00 GMT

It is with great regret that I inform you of the passing of my
IIc over the weekend. It went peacefully and without pain
(except for my own, as I was working on a project at the time).

I now have an opportunity to get an almost new GS, with
two 3.5 drives and a 5.25 as well. It also has a mouse, 
loads of software, and an ImageWriter II (unless the owner
decides to keep it to use with the Mac he plans to buy).

What's the going rate on this package? I am pretty close
to the family selling it, so they'd probably give me a
deal, but I'm still interested in learning the fair market
value of this package. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have
System 6, but it seems like a good system for me (though nothing
will ever replace my *sniff* "very old IIc" in my computer room).

Any information would be appreciated!!!

Linda Havas   ------------> lchavas@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

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From: SGenius@world.std.com (Bill G Carver)
Subject: CCosun.caltech.ed
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:20:30 GMT

Everything I download from ccosun caltech.edu is corrupted when I try to
unpack it with GSCIIplus.  Is there a proper way to transfer and download
those.  I believe that the problem must be the incantations that I type to
dl it have probably changed.

I can get files to unpack from cba2 without problems.


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