HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jykim@camars.kaist.ac.kr (Kim Ji Yoon)
Subject: Re: VL-bus PC?
Organization: KAIST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:28:52 GMT

How about wait for a PCI machine?

jykim

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From: drchip@cup.portal.com (MYRON A LIEBERMAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Re: 387 chips
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 23:26:30 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>In article <27SEP199216045687@summa.tamu.edu> gtb6038@summa.tamu.edu (BILES, G
R
>EG THOMAS) writes:
>>I recently purchased a 387 co-processor, but I am having some second
>>thoughts about it.  Becasue, the model number is A80387-16 and it says
>>SX829 on it.  The place where I bought it from swears that it is a DX,
>>32-bit co-pro.  It works fine on my machine, but it fails to fill up the
>>outer row of pins on the socket which leads me to believe that it is
>>a 16 bit version for an SX.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Greg
>
>Some motherboards (my budget 386-40, for example) have a math co-processor
>socket that will accept either a 387 or a Weitek floating-point accelerator.
>The 387 leaves two sides of holes empty, but which are filled by the pins of
>the Weitek.
>
>Motherboards typically are designed to accept only one type of 387 chip; it
>is simpler.  The SX829 might be a version or date code (someone please
>correct me).
>
>If your 386 CPU is also running at 16 MHz, I'd say stick with it.

The SX829 is a step number. Some motherboards do indeed allow either the
Weitek (with nearly twice the number of pins as the 387) or the 387. Keep
in mind that Pin Grid Array sockets are built on matrices of pins and will
have more pins than the processor that fits it most of the time. The 387
has 68 pins as I recall. If this is the case please note that 68 is not a
perfect square and there may well be more positions than pins. Some sockets
will cut out a square block of the inner pins as those are least likely
to be used.


>Andras
>
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>andras@cyber.net
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
From: darknite@camelot.bradley.edu (John S. Novak III)
Subject: Re: PowerPC or (P5 & P6)?
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  1 Oct 92 23:19:55 GMT

Rob Young writes:

>  Quoting Digital News & Report from 9/28/92 :

>	" ... DEC plans to release a low-end Alpha PC (code-named Pelican)
>	and a 133MHz PC LAN server (code-named Jensen).  Prices for these
>	systems are expected to begin at about $7,000.  

Pardon, but I do read this right?  A 133MHz machine?
If so, where can I get more info on these machines, other than
the Digital News and Report?

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	  -John S. Novak, III, 06-11-92
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
From: cwvernon@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Colin Vernon)
Subject: Re: PowerPC or (P5 & P6)?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:03:59 GMT


What is VESA anyways?  I've never heard of it before.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
From: kconnors@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith Connors)
Subject: Help!!!  Need program to determine CPU!!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 18:41:33 GMT


Help!  I think we've been ripped off!  The family just purchased a
486 33 MHz system, but there is reason to believe that it may be
actually a 386 33 MHz machine!!  Could someone please uuencode and mail
me (or better yet, refer to an anonymous FTP site) a program that 
displays the CPU in the machine?!  We'd rather not take it apart until
we can be sure that we've been had!!!  

Thanks so much for your time......

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(If uuencoding, please send to above address...if E-Mailing, go ahead
and reply to the message-post's address)!


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From: tkhut@ap.cl.msu.edu (Scott Karre)
Subject: Re: 387 chips
Organization: Michigan State University, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 05:06:12 GMT

In article <27SEP199216045687@summa.tamu.edu> gtb6038@summa.tamu.edu (BILES, GREG THOMAS) writes:
>I recently purchased a 387 co-processor, but I am having some second
>thoughts about it.  Becasue, the model number is A80387-16 and it says
>SX829 on it.  The place where I bought it from swears that it is a DX,
>32-bit co-pro.  It works fine on my machine, but it fails to fill up the 
>outer row of pins on the socket which leads me to believe that it is
>a 16 bit version for an SX.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Greg
>

   Greg,

Im not exactly sure about the SX829 designation, but regarding the 
co-processor not filling the outer row of pin sockets is probably 
normal.  I have an 80387DX -33 and it also does not fill the outer row
of pin sockets.  If this helps, my co-processor has 2 rows of pins, or
more accurately described, 2 squares of pins.  The reason there is
3 rows in the co-processor socket is because your motherboard is most
likely compatable with Weitek math co-processors, which take up all
3 rows.  Check your motherboard manual, and you'll probably find that
it is compatable with Weitek processors.  Hope that helped some.

	Kris


	     " That which does not kill us, makes us stronger... "

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*  Kris Kortright  ( tkhut@ap.cl.msu.edu or kortrigh@cem.cemvax.msu.edu )     *
*  Research : Laser analytical chemistry under Dr. Gary Blanchard             *
*  Depatment of Chemistry  -  Michigan State University  -  E. Lans. Michigan *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
From: friedman@col.hp.com (John Friedman)
Subject: Re: Help!!!  Need program to determine CPU!!
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:10:55 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

kconnors@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith Connors) writes:
> Help!  I think we've been ripped off!  The family just purchased a
> 486 33 MHz system, but there is reason to believe that it may be
> actually a 386 33 MHz machine!!  Could someone please uuencode and mail
> me (or better yet, refer to an anonymous FTP site) a program that 
> displays the CPU in the machine?!  We'd rather not take it apart until
> we can be sure that we've been had!!!  

It really shouldn't be very difficult to remove the cover and look inside.

John Friedman
friedman@col.hp.com
From: jtien@venice.eng.uci.edu (Joe Tien)
Subject: benchmarks used
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
Reply-To: jtien@venice.eng.uci.edu (Joe Tien)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:18:07 GMT


Could someone from Intel tell me which benchmark programs were used to get
the cache miss rates presented in the "Architectural features of the i860(tm) -
Microprocessor RISC core and on-chip cache" by Piyush Patel and Diane Douglass
in the IEEE International Conference on Computer Design, 1989. pp. 385-390.

Thanks much,

Joe Tien
jtien@balboa.eng.uci.edu
From: v131pt62@buffalo.edu (Sleepy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Upcoming technology...
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:04:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ME
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

> 
>The P5 is due out sometime next year and it about 10 times faster (i think!).

Hmmm... I thought that P5 is due out at end of this year, and it is only twice
as fast as the 486DX2 (66MHz).  


> 
> 
>In Businessweek Intel released plans for a p5 - p8 series over the next decade.
>This was confirmed for me by a senior mananger at intel.
>
>msk
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
From: wirawa_i@cs.uwa.oz.au (Indra)
Subject: Upgrading 386DX ??
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:26:52 GMT


 Hi everybody !

   I own a PC running on Intel 386DX 20MHZ. Is it possible to replace
   this processor with faster processor, say Intel 386DX 33MHZ ?
   What is the side effect of doing this (if possible) ?
   By the way, I heard recently in this newsgroup some people talking
   about new Cyrix processors that enable you to replace/upgrade your
   old 386, where can I get this Cyrix processors in Australia ?

   Any comment will be appreciated.

  Thank you

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The University of Western Australia
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From: lokhate@aurora.unice.fr (LOKHATE Eric)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
Subject: 8237 DMA programming
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:27:49 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
NNTP-Posting-Host: aurora.unice.fr


	Hi everybody !

	Is there anyone who knowns how to program the Intel 8237 DMA Controller
for MEMORY-TO-MEMORY transfers ?

	In what 8237 register (port address) must I put :

		- source address
		- destination address
		- length

	How to select a DMA channel ?

	And what channel is available for MEMORY-TO-MEMORY transfers on a PC ?


	Please, answer with e-mail.

	Thanks in advance,

	Eric.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
From: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu)
Subject: the 80387
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 05:52:20 GMT

Hi, there

Can anyone tell me how 'buggy' the '387 is?

(i.e would i be better off getting an IIT or Cryix type co-pro?)

Thanks

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From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: 8051 C compilier
Date: 3 Oct 1992 21:00:46 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>I strongly suggest learning the 8051 and its language.  Using C to do 8051
>programming is a lot like using Roman Numerals to do Calculus.

In article <IISAKKIL.92Sep21175817@lesti.hut.fi> iisakkil@lesti.hut.fi (Mika Iisakkila) writes:
>I disagree. I've done boatloads of programming for 8051 systems using
>the C compiler [...] Most of my systems consist of a few
>thousand lines of C and ~100 lines of assembly and fit into 4 kB of ROM.

I have a challenge for you.  Send me some of your C source (with documentation
if possible), and I'll write an assembly source from it, equivalent to it,
with about the same size as the C source.  Maybe smaller.

Any C source at all will do. :)
From: drchip@cup.portal.com (MYRON A LIEBERMAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: 387 chips
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 23:27:09 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>I recently purchased a 387 co-processor, but I am having some second
>thoughts about it.  Becasue, the model number is A80387-16 and it says
>SX829 on it.  The place where I bought it from swears that it is a DX,
>32-bit co-pro.  It works fine on my machine, but it fails to fill up the
>outer row of pins on the socket which leads me to believe that it is
>a 16 bit version for an SX.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Greg
The -16 indicates 16 MHz and the SX829 is a "step number". The part is
not a 387SX but it may be an older version of the 387 before DX or SX were
indicated on the part number. There should be no problem using it with an
80386DX.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
From: jre@zeos.com (Jim Erickson)
Subject: Re: PowerPC or (P5 & P6)?
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 14:29:25 GMT

In article <BvnJ2o.6y7@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cwvernon@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Colin Vernon) writes:
>
>What is VESA anyways?  I've never heard of it before.

  Video Electronics Standards Association. It is an association of companies
who try to set standards for the PC/electronics industry.

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Xref: sparky comp.graphics:10145 comp.graphics.animation:400
From: fenner@engcon.marshall.ltv.com (JWFENNER)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Hardware for 2D real-time animation
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:36:13 GMT
Reply-To: fenner@engcon.UUCP (JWFENNER)
Organization: LTV MEG, Dallas, TX

What hardware is available for 2D graphics animation for the IBM PC.
Specifically, I'm looking for graphics coprocessors, DSPs, and the like.
Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks...

Please e-mail responses.  I'll compile a summary and post it if I get
enough.  Thanks again..

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= LORAL Vought Systems - Neural Network / AI Research Group      =
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Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: ledwards@leland.Stanford.EDU (Laurence James Edwards)
Subject: Re: Primitive source code or algorithms
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 02:04:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.184945.3764@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Don Gillies) writes:
|> Rumor has it that on the macintosh, a general (non-rectangular)
|> "Region" is a set of rectangular regions on the screen combined with
|> boolean operators.  I am not sure about all the details, but I think
|> apple applied for a patent on the implementation of regions.  Can
|> anyone elaborate?
|> 
|> - Don

I'm not sure if this is the same thing but I have a copy of an Apple patent,
I'm not sure where it is right now, that, if I remember correctly, represents
non-rectangular regions using some type of chain-code.

Oh I just found it, it's patent #4,622,545, Method and Apparatus for Image
Compression and Manipulation. Filed Nov. 11, 1986, the inventor is Bill
Atkinson.
-------------------
Abstract:

Apparatus and methods are disclosed which are most advantageously used in
conjunction with a digital computer to provide improved graphics capability. 
These techniques permit the representation and manipulation of any arbitrarily
shaped image in  terms of "inversion points". Inversion points defining a
region are sorted and stored such that the region shape may be regenerated at a
later time from the inversion points. Means are provided to compare existing
regions and new regions to be displayed, and region operators are provided to
specify a precedence between the existing and new regions. Thus, new regions
are appropriately "clipped" such that only portions of a new region may
actually be displayed to achieve the desired graphic representation.
--------------------

The basic idea is to create a write mask by flipping all the bits to the
right and below each inversion point in sequence. The inversion points are
stored in sorted order left to right top to bottom. 

inversion points. 

Larry Edwards
From: jl8p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph C. Lappa)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Object databases
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:52:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8eoPMVu00WB988dmos
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Hello,

    Can anyone point me in the right direction where to get object
databases such as cars/trucks, trees, etc as well as body parts?


This can be commerical or PD.


Thanks!
Joe Lappa
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: adair@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jonathan Edward Adair)
Subject: Looking for info on Logitech Fotoman
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 12:48:45 GMT

A friend of mine is looking at getting a Logitech Fotoman (or the
equivalent, I guess) and asked my advice.  I hadn't even heard
of it, but I had seen stuff on Canon Zapshot, I think.
 
* Has anyone been using one of these Fotoman's (Fotomen?)?
  If you have, I'd like to know what you think of it.

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet)
Subject: Totally portable 3D graphics packages...
Summary: Looking for totally portable 3d graphics package
Keywords: 3d PHIGS HOOPS
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:25:44 GMT

I'm looking for a 3D graphics package similar to SPHIGS or Hoops.  However,
I would prefer it would not bother to try to the input/output garbage, as
I want to take care of the low-level stuff on my own, rather than rewriting
SGRP or whatever.  ANY ftp sites with ANY 3d packages would be appreciated
as well.  Thanks in advance!

Jeff "Kaz" Kaczmarek
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: OPEN/image TIPS: Attention Wang OPEN/image document imaging sites
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:11:56 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Effective October 1, 1992, the existing Model SC300 Document Scanner
is discontinued and replaced by the HP ScanJet IIP Document Scanner
(Model C1797A), which offers superior features at a lower price.

The HP ScanJet IIP is a low-end, compact desktop scanner with an
optional automatic feeder (ADF) that is supported in OPEN/image and
OPEN/image host system environments.  It features 256 contrast,
brightness and gray scale levels, with a maximum of 30 dot-per-inch
(dpi) resolution.  When equipped with an optional ADF, the HP ScanJet
scan documents ranging up to legal size (8.5" x 14").  An 8-bit interface
card, cable and HP scanner driver is included with the HP ScanJet IIP.

NOTE: The HP ScanJet IIP is not supported in VS Wang Integrated Imaging
System minicomputer environments.

Contact: Mark Sartanowicz (508) 967-6953.
From: tessmann@cs.ubc.ca (Markus Tessmann)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: Help/Info wanted op .tga format.
Date: 29 Sep 1992 13:05:44 -0700
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: larry.cs.ubc.ca

buex93c@rw9.urc.tue.nl (O.L. Craane) writes:

>Hi,

>I am searching for some information on a picture format  called TGA. I
>don't know if it's a general format or just a local format that some
>small programmer invented himself. 
>Anyhow, has anyone heard of it and if so what do you know about it.

>Thanks in andvance,
>Oscar Craane

The tga format is from Truevision and comes in a variety of flavours.  For 
details on this format contact your local Truevision reseller or Truevision
directly at:

	Truevision
	7340 Shadeland Station
	Indianapolis, Indiana
	USA  46256-3919

	Jackie Gardner, Product Manager
	Phone:	317-841-0332
	Fax:	317-576-7700
	email:	jackie@truevision.com
		uunet!epicb!jackie
From: odyy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: 32k color gifs
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:29:53 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

Hello, all.  If anybody out there has any 32K color gifs, could you please post
it or email it to me?

Sorry for posting in this newsgroup but I could not access                   
alt.binaries.pictures from my vax.  Post it to alt.binaries.pictures if you
prefer.
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet)
Subject: Front-ends for Rayshade, DKB, etc...
Summary: Are there front ends for DKB, rayshade, etc...
Keywords: DKB Rayshade
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:26:08 GMT

Are there front ends for creating scenes and objects for the generally
available text-C driven ray traces (such Rayshade, DKBTrace, etc...)?
Any help, source, or info would be appeciated.  Yeah, I know I'm a
dreamer.

Jeff "Kaz" Kaczmarek
From: jhuang@futon.SFSU.EDU (Jason C. Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: ASCII picture request
Date: 2 Oct 1992 12:58:02 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

                              
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Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: dds3769@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.D. Simmons)
Subject: Looking for a Rose
Originator: dds3769@ultb
Reply-To: dds3769@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:34:10 GMT


    I am looking for a scene description file or an algorithm for
generating a scene description file. I want to use it to render a
picture with a ray tracing program. Does anybody have a file or such an
algorithm?

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