HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The Philadelphia Experiment (?)
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:22:02 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr9.172210.1705@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umrutko0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris Rutkowski) writes:

> Certainly the energies involved would have
> had some adverse effects on crewmen, and some might have been severely
> burned or killed in the process. (c.f. Vallee, REVELATIONS, 1992)

Are there any dangers to being exposed to a static magnetic field?  I would
not want to spend my days around a mega-watt UHF (rf) field, but I've never
heard of an danger in a static magnetic field (other than flying coins,
screwdrivers, etc).  As many of you know, my brother-in-law works in a lab
that has a superconducting magnet and other than talking with a Swedish
accent, I've never noticed anything unusual about him.

Terry "Well, I have a MAGNETIC personality" Wood
From: tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cable TV cheater spotters (was Re: FCC Call letters)
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:24:54 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr14.005524.17718@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>,  writes:

> Ya'll DID know that using active jammers on Police radars is very, very 
> illegal, didn't you. (Otherwise such devices would long since be on the
> market, since the technology exists. I saw an article in an electronics
> magazine about a guy who'd made some jammers anyway.)

All you have to do (in any little burg or township) is pass a law and
something becomes illegal.  Not that it's constitutional, but it's illegal.

"Radar Jammers" (the ones I saw) were not being sold as "Radar Jammers".
They were being sold as "Ham Radio Transmitters", for the police shared
a Ham Band on a secondary allocation.  If you were a Ham (Technician class
at least) then the use of the device was legal from the FCC's viewpoint.

But, as I said, all it takes is a law and then the "accused" must defend
against it.  In some communities, it's "illegal" to use a scanner (or have
a scanner in your car).  It's not right, but it's the LAW.

Terry "vote libertarian" Wood
From: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Earthquakes
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:36:13 GMT
Reply-To: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

In article <7937@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall) writes:
>   Changing the subject....for a REAL afu, my grandmother claims that
>HER grandmother experienced an earthquake in Mississippi back in the
>early 1800's and no amount of explaining about continential drift, fault
>lines, and the Pacific Ring of Fire will convince her otherwise :-)

Well, I am confused by the smiley face, but at the risk of looking foolish
I shall add a few facts here.

Earthquakes are not restricted to the Pacific Coast.  The earthquake that is
estimated to be highest on the Richter scale took place in Missouri in the
early 1800's (I could look up the details but someone swiped my World Almanac).
It was estimated from damage reports to have been 9.1.  Very nasty, and 
little damage since there were few people and fewer buildings in the Midwest
in those days.

I have read that earthquakes of this magnitude are to be expected every 150 
years or so in the MidWest.  That amount of time has passed.

Rochester, NY (where I live) has had several earthquakes during my lifetime.
Maybe 4.x is not much by CA standards, but I do remember my bed moving away
from the wall.
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
From: mpevans@isis.cs.du.edu (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: CATV monitoring, Tempest screening (was Re: FCC Call letters)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 11:00:01 GMT

MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman) writes:

>It's extremely easy to do this. Read "Spycatcher" for details of how
>the IF-tuning system works. All you need is a rather small antenna or
>a pseudo-doppler system- either of which can be conceled- and a vehicle.
>In fact, you don't want to stop to take bearings. Moving averages out
>errors from reflections and multipath. We amateur radio operators do
>this all the time. In contests it often takes as little as 30 minutes
>to locate a transmitter operating intermittently from 10 miles
>away in an urban environment. To actually monitor a targeted house is
>trivial.
Not a very good comparison, since for the contest situation you have only
to find one transmitter.
In the looking for illegal CATV  hookups you first have to decide where to
look, make sure you are actually  picking up signals from an illegal connection
rather than a nearby adjacent legal set up.
Also though for espionarge you may wish to monitor one site for a period of
time, to catch people hooking into your cable network, you need to be able
to find a sizeable proportion of them.
To monitor a targeted house may be trivial, you first have to find which houses
to target, assume all except your legit. customers, then actually obtain
evidence which will be accepted by a lawyer. Oh yes and don't do ANYTHING
illegal to get it, including dangerouus driving and parking where you shouldn't.
From: tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Flip-Tops for Kidney Dialysis UL (?)
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:59:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr8.194619.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>, axd7104@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:

> Which leads to the question, "Why just collect the tabs when
> a) these days they're much more annoying to remove, and b) the whole
> can is worth more?"  The answer: the local people LIKED doing it; it
> became a hobby for some people.  These people need some USENET links
> immediately, so they can waste their times in a more amusing fashion.

Naaah.  These people need a LIFE!

Seriously, I've seen people sifting through trash cans ripping off the
rings from cans.  I've never been able to convince these people that
it must be an UL or that they'd be better off recycling the entire can.

No, they've got save Craig Shergold that "two-fifty" he would have to
spend on kidney "die alice sys" so they pull off those CONCENTRATED
ALUMINUM pop-can rings and throw the rest of the can away.

Earlier this week I heard a commercial from one of the local fire companies
who were colleting pop-cans to help kids injured in fires.  The were sure
to specify that they wanted the ENTIRE can, however.

Terry "Recycle your Urban Legends Here (only two fifty)" Wood
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: staylor@fudd.rtp.dg.com (Steve Taylor)
Subject: Re: Cow Tippin'
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 16:25:54 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <1992Apr4.014649.5088@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer) writes:
>I grew up on a dairy farm.  We had 200+ milkers and another 100 dry
>at any given time.  I don't recall EVER seeing one sleep stading up.

>BOY can they get up fast ... 
>        I know how hard they can kick!!  (And they kick SIDEWAYS, not
>backwards like a horse does.)

On the other hand, I have rolled a cow with a torsioned uterus, in an endeavor
to shift the weight of the calf.  Under these circumstances (painful long labor)
standing and kicking is not uppermost on the cow's mind.

Cows frequently sleep with both legs to one side, and can easily be shifted
to that position even if they are already on top of their legs.
Then take the leg closest to the ground, and lever her over.
From: tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Lemurs
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:30:02 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <9204060510.AA14985@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu>, FURRJK@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:

> The story ends with the statement "The commodity
> exchange managers hushed this up to prevent further such attempts from
> taking place as a result of copycatting."

This certainly qualifies it as an UL then.  The police are usually the ones
"hushing this up" to protect Disney World, Hills Dept Stores and JFK's widow.

Terry "Hushing up this posting" Wood
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Perfume and whale vomit
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:23:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.111822.4943@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>See what you can get from your reading? And you thought there was nothing
>in Moby Dick!

Hey, when I was in college, one of the best local bands was "Moby Dick and
the Seamen".

Not as good as "Pontius Pilate and the Naildrivers", though.

Phil "I was in 'Rocky and the Retards'" Gustafson
-- 
|play: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG; {ames|pyramid|vsi1}!zorch!phil                |
|work: phil@gsi; sgi!gsi!phil            | Phil Gustafson                   |
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From: morris@anasaz (Bob Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The wacky, flakey State
Keywords: Wayne & Garth; we have nothing bad to say about them
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:45:48 GMT
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Az

In article <1992Apr2.224828.19567@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>
>How many other states have an element named after them?

I count three, if you include Lawrencium and Berkeleyium.  (Please forgive
my spelling; I don't do too well on pretend words).

>The state bird is the California road-runner, no, not CA, Arizona :-).  What's
>the CA state bird, Goldie Hawn (on a wire) :-).

No, not Arizona, New Mexico (you'll get a lot of flames about this).  Our
state bird is the Cactus Wren.

Bob "if you don't count Evan Mecham" Morris
aka morris@anasazi.com  (new address)
anasaz!morris@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (old address still works)
My opinions only, of course...
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: Radio UL
Organization: SCN Research/QIC Laboratories of Tigard Oregon
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 23:43:27 GMT

>Alan J Rosenthal writes:
>>
>>Apparently there's a bit of a competition among the symphony orchestras of
>> the world in which everyone tunes slightly higher than everyone else.  
>>It's fairly passe' in the business to tune to A 440 (i.e., the `A' note
>> above middle C has
>>a fundamental frequency of 440 Hz); most people tune to A 442 but some
>> famous
>>orchestra somewhere in Europe tunes to A 447 (!!!) if I'm remembering the
>>number correctly.  Sorry no reference because this is musician-lore, but I'm

	This probably works okay until you get a gig in a joint with a
	pipe organ, and the particular piece being performed that night
	requires the organ.  You can bet that the tuning standard is
	going to be the organ, at A=423 or A=456 or anyplace in between.

	Remember too, that most instruments that span more than a couple
	of octaves (pianos, notoriously) are not tuned equally-tempered.
	They're tuned slightly sharp at the high and low ends.  Makes
	them sound more 'in tune' and 'brighter' to those of use with
	less-than-perfect pitch.  No idea how it affects people that are
	afflicted with perfect pitch.  Sends them screaming from the room,
	I suspect.

	(Flash back to turntables, etc.)

	I have seen a Denon CD player with a pitch control on it, but
	disappointingly, this was a motor speed control.  I was hoping
	for a "tempo control" (change a song tempo while leaving the
	pitch alone) and a real "pitch control" (change the pitch but
	leave the tempo alone.)  Not available yet, I guess, but it is
	conceptually simple (as pointed out by an earlier poster.)

-- 

    Larry Huntley / Logic Modeling Corporation / Beaverton  OR
	  "Pink and wet - they make the best kind of pet"
                   -*- Stop Continental Drift! -*-
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Kidney Stealers Attack
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:42:55 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

In the latest issue of Spider Man:

Guy goes dancing with hot redhead, goes home to her apartment, she
attacks him with a knife.  He's found later in the park bleeding all
over the place.  Spidey takes him to the hospital, they check him out,
and.... he's missing a kidney! 

Imagine that...
-- 
Critics are like eunuchs in a harem: they know how it's done,
they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves.
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Polio immunizations
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:46:25 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <23454@goofy.Apple.COM> johana!tsw@apple.com (Tom Watson) writes:
>Just think today...
>Instead of having Salk or Sabin vaccines (the shots are painful if you are 
>a 5 year old kid!) today we would have a microprocessor controlled iron 
>lung.  It would be micro size and everything.  Aren't lawyers and 
>insurance companies wonderful.

Why?  The courts have absolved the manufacturers of polio vaccines from
liability.
-- 
Ted Frank          + "Question whether attorney's filing claim for 'stud fee'
1307 E 60 St, #109 +  as countersuit to paternity action was improperly
U o' C Law Skool   +  motivated required remand."  Headnote 9, Committee on
Chi, IL 60637      +  Legal Ethics of WVa State Bar v Douglas, 370 SE2d 325.
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: What Pepsi Means in Chinese (Was RE:  What Co
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:07:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.190650.16802@yang.earlham.edu> jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>  Furthermore, wasn't it JFK, who said "Ich bin ein berliner", when he 
>meant to say, "Ich bin Berliner", during a speech in Berlin, where 
>"ein berliner" is a kind of pastry, and Berliner  is a Berliner...????

I'm not going to follow up to this.

Really, I'm not.


-- 
        Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche.
                      hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
                      Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Captain Crunch and th
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:46:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: indyvax.1992Apr15.184621.1
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1748@israel.nysernet.org>, warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein) writes:
> In <1992Apr12.095924.11466@rose.uucp> david.lloyd-jones@rose.uucp (david lloyd-jones) writes:
>
>>Genuine urban legend: Bell has sent somebody around to all the
>>University libraries and cut out the article from that issue of the Bell
>>Technical Journal.
>
	...deletia...
>
> Has anyone ever looked for the issue?  At the time I heard the story I
> was at a university that did not have the BSTJ, and never thought of
> looking for it when I was.

We have volumes 16 (1937) through 62 (1983) here.  In January 1984 it was
discontinued and replaced by the AT&T Bell Laboratories technical journal.
Issues were monthly except for combined May/June and July/August issues
from 1965 until 1983...

Does anybody know which issue this article supposedly appeared in?

> Warren "of course I did not make a copy for myself" Burstein
> --
> /|/-\/-\          The entire kitchen is		Jerusalem
>  |__/__/_/        still full of strange hamantaschen
>  |warren@         And the custodian
> / nysernet.org    is starting to get worried.
--
James "I can whistle and hum at the same time" Harvey
harvey@iupui.edu (preferred) or harvey@indiana.edu
Remember, there are only 2,817 shopping days left until January 1st, 2000!
From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Marilyn can just fuck off and die
Date: 17 Apr 92 21:20:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: positive

snopes suspiciuosly asks
  [Marilyn and the oat-bran, deleted]
> Doesn't anybody else think this question is obviously a spoof?  It
> sounds just a little too cleverly worded to be the product of a
> patently stupid reader to me.  

Yes!  There's a long and honorable tradition of rattling the cages of
public figures, the more pompous the better.  Ann Landers is especially
prone to this.  She invented a long-running feud with Yale students, as
evidence of how good she is at spotting bogus letters.  She isn't good
at it though.  I'm sure Marilyn is even less skilled.  

Marilyn occasionally prints some grotesquely rude letter (sent, I'm sure,
as a parody) with a "straight" answer.  ("Dear Marilyn, if you had to
eat a housefly, or kiss Mick Jagger which would you choose?")

The best one we ever caught Ann Landers with was when my pal Harris sent 
her a short letter recommending the use of lard and sugar instead of soap.
Despite the fact that Ann is not a household hints column, she printed
the letter in full, along with her artless reply:

       "Thanks for sharing this tip.  I tried it [lard and sugar soap]
        and it works a treat."

I'm still half expecting to hear from her lawyers anyday.

--
Peter van der Linden    linden@eng.sun.com
Reality check #34:  Gallagher has a bozo haircut, but is not a very funny clown
From: kirk@enterprise.Eng.Sun.COM ('Captain' Kirk DeHaan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Radium poisoning
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:44:29 GMT
Reply-To: kirk@enterprise.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterprise

In article l7chbma8@csv.warwick.ac.uk, csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:
>In article <5APR199201191595@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu> ae313406@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Vance Kochenderfer) writes:
>>ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET (Loyd Means) writes:

stuff deleted

>>
>>I saw a documentary entitled "Radium City" about this.  It was set in
>>the city of Ontario, California(?), and showed some pretty startling
>>stuff.  After over twenty years, the site where the Radium Dial factory
>>was located still showed elevated levels of radioactivity, and many
>>of the workers cleaning up at the site were wearing only dust masks
>>as protection!  Of course, the supervisors were wearing respirators,
>>and government environmental workers measuring radioactivity at the
>>site wouldn't go near the place without wearing an environment suit...
>>
>>As for the workers glowing, I don't think this is possible, but
>>then again I'm just an engineer, not a physicist...
>>
>>Anyone seeking more info can probably look it up under the "Radium
>>Dial Co." or perhaps Ontario, CA.
>
>I'm not a physicist or an engineer, but...
>
>That documentary was shown on TV in the UK, as well, about a year ago.
>Mkaes you think, doesn't it? I wonder which of the things we're doing now will
>be considered suicidal in thirty or forty years time... (maybe it would be
>better to ask which of them WON'T?).
>
>As for the glowing workers, NO. They'd have died long before they got that
>radioactive, of physiological upset rather than anything else.
>

I saw this documentary also.  It detailed how the remains of the factory
had been spread about the city at various dump sites.  These sites were
easily detectable from and aerial radiation scan.  

There were also so interviews with former employees that were dying of
some very disfiguring ailments.  One ladies leg was the size of a tree.
The government made some very extensive test on these people but were very
slow, if not at a standstill, about giving them any information on their
condition.

To this day there are high levels of radiation in the area.

 'Captain' Kirk DeHaan		  		     net - kirk@sun.com
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Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:12165 sci.geo.geology:1051
From: pfritsch@skid.ps.uci.edu (Paul Fritschle)
Subject: New Madrid Fault
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.geo.geology
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:32:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban

patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:

>At least you're on the edge of a plate that's going somewhere -- the folks
>along the Mississippi get to be right in the middle of a developing rift
>valley...

Is this the reason for the quakes in the middle of North America? I've
not seen this brought forward as a cause before this.

[This article is being cross-posted to sci.geo.geology and
alt.folklore.urban, where the thread began.]

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        One chants out between two worlds, "Fire, walk with me!"
From: pirinen@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Peeling labels off beer
Summary: Helsinki, Finland
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:24:28 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <22418@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
> I have heard two version of the "beer label" story:
>    a.  Similar to Ken's,
>    b.  It shows that you are sexually frustrated.
I've heard b. in Helsinki, Finland -- likely to be a true indication,
too, considering the large incidence of sexual frustration among the
shy, introverted people here.  (Finns are only friendly and open towards
foreigners -- part of a national inferiority complex; yes, I know I'm
exhibiting it.)

Pekka P. Pirinen   pirinen@helsinki.fi   pirinen@finuh.bitnet
PS. I'm happily married.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov (Chuck Adams)
Subject: Re: Finally some URBAN LEGENDS (well, sort of)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:03:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.165726.1@vm2.cis.pitt.edu> tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu 
writes:

> How do I know all this?  My Dad met my Mother while they were both operating
> illegally on what is now the 6 meter band (when the hams had 5 meters).


Now it can be told................. 



This Terry is the spawn of bootleggers!
(bootleggers in ham lingo are illegal/unlicensed operators)

               Chuck Adams,  WB5WRR   (The Chuckster)
                Internet:  chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov
   Disclaimer:  Not an official document of DOE, SSCL, URA or EG&G
                   "Curses!  Flamed Again"  - me
From: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Baby swimming UL (was Re: De-ionized water mishap)
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:44:48 GMT
Reply-To: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

In article <1992Apr6.211428.20299@anasaz> morris@anasaz (Bob Morris) writes:
>Conversly, I heard from a nurse that there is no such reflex and the
>babies swallow enormous (for a baby) amounts of water during these lessons.

Well, I can say from experience (four kids) that there is some sort of reflex.

We found it much easier to give a small baby a shower (no, we did not stand
them up in the tub, we held them in our arms as we both took a shower), than
to try to contain them in those inflatable baby tubs.  The tubs were also soon
destroyed by the older siblings who found uses for them that the designers
hadn't considered.

Anyway - when the baby was placed with its head under the shower, it closed
its eyes and held its breath.  Obviously, you have to make sure that you 
keep the baby under the water a very short time.

I never took my kids swimming at that young an age.  A cousin asked me:
How long can the baby hold its breath if you let go?  I know it is not
long enough for me to find it underwater.  The earliest I took one swimming
was 2 years.  He could walk, remain upright in the water with his bubble,
and didn't need air for a long time.

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