HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 21:09:11 CET
From: BARRY TITMARSH <BTITMARS@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS on Disk in Germany !

Appaling!!
I live in Germany DARMSTADT
My address is B. Titmarsh  Im Niderfeld 10  W-6100 Darmstadt

This week alone i have dispached 900 disks to 30 users
last week i did the same
I distrubute this CODE as FREE no charge!!
all i ask is that i have the disks sent to my home address with return post
paid in stamps.  Nothing more..
GNU software is FREE is it not ?

Barry...
B.Titmars  Im Niderfeld 10  W-6100 Darmstadt Germany..
mail me your disks ill copy them for FREE.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: troyer@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Dean Troyer)
Subject: Re: Backup hardware for Linux?
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 01:00:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.203349.6319@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> miller@hindmost.lpl.arizona.edu (Jeff Miller x6950) writes:
[ thoughts on backing up deleted...]

>BTW I've never seen Linux actually running.  If there's anyone near
>Tucson or Phoenix who could show me his or her system, I'd love to 
>see it.  L.A., S.F., and Seattle are possibilities too.

I know of a couple of us in Phoenix that are running Linux.  I'm also making
an effort to keep a current set of SLS disks available for those without
net access (The BBS we hang out on isn't too keen on 25Mb downloads at
2400 bps!).

>Jeff Miller	 miller@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu 

dt

-- 
Dean Troyer                               troyer@saifr00.cfsat.Honeywell.COM
Honeywell Commercial Flight Systems       72240.3152@compuserve.com
Phoenix AZ
(602) 436-3613
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kennu@mits.mdata.fi (Kenneth Falck)
Subject: Non-X TeX/DVI previewers for VGA?
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:42:27 GMT

Has anyone ported/compiled/made a DVI-previewer for VGA that
doesn't need X? I just downloaded TeX, but didn't find a
viewer for Linux that would work for me; only one for MSDOS
and then some X stuff. (No HD space left for XFree86...)

Also, I wonder is there a program that prints DVI-files on
an Epson-compatible 9-pin matrix printer? (Or IBM Graphics
Printer, mine is Citizen 120D which emulates both, I think...)

(Sorry for any misspellings, this f**king ISC SysV is losing
characters because of buggy tty drivers...)

Btw, by `VGA' I mean 640x480/16c, I don't have SuperVGA modes :-(

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

-- 
kennu@mits.mdata.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: h Ha! Things Work!
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:10:59 GMT

tim.foley@rose.com (tim foley) writes:


>Date Entered: 11-03-92 12:04
> 
>  Finally...things are a little more organized!  I got getty_ps and
>installed UU-GETTY...works like a charm (So Far... :). Should be added to
>SLS!
haven't given it a proper go yet, although i used the wrong syntax when i
did, and then discovered my bootdisks were stuffed, and had to sector edit
my inittab file to comment out the uugetty call :(
my own fault entirely...

But it works now...
Do you need to do anything to dial out of the line or does it work that
out itself ?
(i haven't done any real testing yet...)
> 
>  Thanks for all the help with the stupid uucp problem... 
> 
>Now back to older nagging problems...
> 
>	1)  Where can I find the lib LIBTERMLIB.A ?
Change your makefile to use the library called termcap instead
ie. change -ltermlib to -ltermcap
That usually works...[B
> 
>	2)  How do you apply kernel patches (0.98.1 to 098.3 eg)
>	    (Or is there a faq or doc on this somewhere....)
Well, there oughta be...
I'm quite sure there is somewhere.
Anywyay, get the source, and untar it so it ends up in /usr/src/linux
then cd /usr/src and say
patch < patchfile
and away you go...
watch out for it saying "hunk failed", although it goes by so fast
you may want to do patch < patchfile | tee file
and look through file afterwards...

> 
>	3)  Anyone solved the mysterious lock-up system for no
>	    reason bug?  I actually had the system running for a day
>	    and a half with no problems...then...screeech!
Hardly had it, although i haven't really the need to leave it running all
the time (yet 8-)

BTW, what happened to trapping of Ctrl-Alt-Del to call reboot ?
It disappeared towards the end of 0.97-start of 0.98, and i kinda
miss it (no drama, just wondering...)

Cos !
-- 
Andrew J. Cosgriff !	ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au
			ins217t@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
			cos@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
"Language is a virus from outer space" - William S. Burroughs
From: Graham@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Patrick Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Does Linux use segmentation?
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:02:01 GMT
Reply-To: Graham@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL
Organization: The Internet

|hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP) writes:

|  curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
|> You will hear the word "segment" kicked around in a lot of
|> places and a lot of different ways; be careful.  Just because
|> you have, say, a "text segment" doesn't mean you use
|> segmentation.
|
|Agreed.  "Text portion" would be more accurate, but I assume this term came
|to UNIX from Multics, which *did* support segmentation.  By the way, does
|anyone know what BSS stands for?  I have only seen "for historical
|reasons"...

Actually the Multics term is "text section". It is only one piece of an 
object segment, not a seperate segment.

There are actually Multics systems still around, it's not the failed lab
experiment that most text books would lead you to believe. Although 
Multics didn't meet all of it's initial design goals, it wasn't a failure.
The main reason it didn't catch on was mostly due to a lack of marketing.
In fact I see alot of similarities between the Linux and Multics, but mostly
between the people behind them. Multics has dynamic linking, while Linux has
shared libraries, although they aren't exactly the same, they both cut down
on the size of executables which is a very good thing. As mentioned, Multics
does have segmentation and paging. It also has rings. I believe the 386 & 486
support rings, how hard would it be to implement these under Linux?
The other real big similarity is they both come with source code online.
About 92% of Multics is written in PL1, the rest in assembly, but it all is 
online, accessable to any normal user to look at or even compile. 

Both Multics and Linux had a good initial design, but what really makes them
both a success is the people behind them working together to improve on an 
idea.

Pat Graham
HFSI
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel)
Subject: Re: Proposal to help people w/out net access get Linux
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 16:17:42 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.linux
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


(note: the following quotes and response are regarding a list of Linux
users who are willing to be distribution points for Linux. The list
will be arranged by geographic location and is being compiled right
now. If you want to be on it, or at least find out more, mail me
(karl) at kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu)


In article <1992Nov7.200601.4279@sfu.ca> rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes:
   In article <KFOGEL.92Nov6142408@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel) writes:
   [...]
   >        Obvious Question: how will the people who need it most ever
   >see this list that I post and upload to various sites, since they
   >don't have net access? Well, that's a good question ... does anyone
   >have some ideas for making sure that this list gets to people who
   >don't have net access?
   >--
   >
   > Karl Fogel ("Leg of Lark") <>    Member, League for Programming Freedom
   >   kfogel@cs.oberlin.edu    <>
   > fogel@antares.mcs.anl.gov  <>  Any opinions disclaimed are entirely my own

   If there were an easy answer to this, there would not be the linux
   distribution problem in the first place.  If I am knowledgable enough
   about linux to have heard of this list, chances are I have a copy of
   linux myself.  And if that is the case, I can just tell them how
   great it is and give them a copy.

   - Ken


	Well, one person has already suggested putting the list on
BBS's. Some people who use BBS's might be scared to try out Linux if
they had to do it on their own, but would be more willing to try it if
they knew that someone who had experience would be there to help them.
Another possibility is mailing it it Comp. Sci. Departments at
universities and colleges, because even if the list does not contain
any one who lives near a particular university, the school's students
will be from all over and might be able to get in touch with Linuxers
on the list over vacations and summers. The hope is that you don't
need prior knowledge of Linux to run across this list (or have it run
across you) -- and after all, we all started sometime :-) Two years
ago I hadn't heard of Linux either, and now it's my sole and only
operating system!!


--

 Karl Fogel ("Leg of Lark") <>    Member, League for Programming Freedom
   kfogel@cs.oberlin.edu    <>
 fogel@antares.mcs.anl.gov  <>  Any opinions disclaimed are entirely my own.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: News reader for Linux
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:14:23 GMT

Esemi@polaris.utu.fi (Sami-Pekka Hallikas) writes:

>Do I have to say more ?.. I need good Newsreader (ftp address) like Unix
>rn, trn or nn.

I just got the 'nn6.4.16' from sunsite.unc.edu to work tonight,
so you'll see that in a future newspak with matching pathnames,
etc. with the other pieces.

The key is that the current nn on sunsite is set to use the optional
'words' in the nndb rather than the default 'numbers' to represent 
each newsgroup.  

I'm running vanilla linux without the long filename extensions,
so I can't run the extended filenames in the nn database.

thanks to David Black for uploading 'nn' and to Jurgen Kammer for
the e-mail'd offer of help (and to all the other folks whose names
escape me at the moment)!!!

So, the inventory goes like this at this time:
	C-news (with or without the '92 optional speedups)
	trn2.2
	tin1.1pl4
	nn6.4.16
	smail3.1.28

Others have the current patchlevels of trn/tin/nn running so I'll
grab the additional patch or two for each and make them available
in a future newspak.  I'll also continue to include readme.linux
files and config files in a separate .tar.Z file that includes all
the parts of newspak so folks can just grab the config files if they
have the sources already but can't get 'em to work.

[...PeterMacDonald - please drop me a line.  I'd like to include 
	the newspak stuff in a future SLS if you're interested...
	The last time I tried, I got your automatic mail reflector...]

-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
    Running Linux/C-news/trn/Elm/Smail - we don't need no steenkin' MS-DOS
From: probreak@wyatt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: What is 'proc'?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 01:20:46 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: wyatt.ksu.ksu.edu

ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !) writes:

>So how do you mount it ? Do you need to recompile mount or something ?

><excuse the ignorance, i only just found out what it was the other day, and
>am a little unsure what to do with it...>

>Cos !
>-- 
>Andrew J. Cosgriff !	ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au

You need to mount a block device as a proc filesystem onto some directory.
My fstab entry looks like this.

/dev/ram	/proc	proc	defaults

Works fine from there.

James

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cmenser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Charles Menser)
Subject: rw_swap_page: weirdness  ????
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 17:25:02 GMT

Well I just upgraded to 0.97.4 and received the above message when
I exited from a telnet session.

The next message was "swap_free: weirdness".

Finally when I shutdown, I received many many:

[something] swap: unable to free page  [or something close to that].

Any ideas? Any suggestions?

Cheers,
Charles
--
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Charles D. Menser               !  "... and even if you choose not to decide,
cmenser@vyonous.kennesaw.edu    !           you still have made a choice."
From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: Re: cron gets stuck.
Organization: UMCC
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:42:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.185828.150@victrola.sea.wa.us> vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.174856.22567@muug.mb.ca> gkm@muug.mb.ca (Greg K. Moeller) writes:
>>I'm using cron to spawn UUCP and news shells, etc.
>>The problem is that when I replace the crontab entry for either of these
>>(crontab -u news -r news.tab[as root]) the entryy gets replaced ok, but cron
>>gets stuck.  It doesn't do anything for anyone at all.  I have to kill it
>>and restart it.  From my reading of the docs for cron, it's supposed to
>>notice that the file has changed, and re-read it.
>>
>
>I've found that if I change a crontab entry, I have to do a "
>	"kill `cat /etc/cron.pid` ; /etc/crond" 
>to get cron to reinitialize off the new entry.  I tried a kill -HUP but
>it killed it dead rather than re-initializing off the files.

Yeah, but its supposed to work accroding to the docs.  If you are running
a multi-user system, is each user supposed to send mail to root to re-start
cron every time they change an entry?

Leon Dent
lcd@ais.org

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (David West)
Subject: more questions for the FAQ
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:13:33 GMT

1. On bootup, trying to select a non-default screen mode causes the system to 
   hang.  Why, and what can be done to get mode selection to work?
   [SLS 0.98.1; Everex EV-678 Viewpoint SVGA card]

2. I need PostScript and TeX previewers, but the only ones I know of under UN*X
   apparently require X.  I barely have enough disk space to install X, or 
   memory to run it, so:
   a) are there previewers which can drive a VGA or EGA directly under Linux?
      (GhostScript has a screen driver under MSDOS, but I don't know if it
      will work with the UN*X version).
   b) if not, are there any previewers which run under MGR?
   c) if not, what is the minimum subset of, say, the SLS X distribution which
      will suffice to run previewers?  
   If it makes any difference, I only need mono, and my SVGA card may be too 
   idiosyncratic to run X in the higher resolutions anyway.
      
3. Is there any way to get bash to recognise the arrow keys in vi-history-edit
   mode?  (MKS ksh does so under MSDOS, and it's very convenient.)  A quick scan
   of the history source code doesn't show an obvious way to do it, but most of
   the documentation is in TeXInfo form, which I can't read.   
   Does the kernel convert arrow keys to ANSI escape sequences?  
   Does vi-history-edit mode support the vi map macro?

4. I've run mkfs -c.  If the partition has no bad blocks, should I get a
   .badblocks file of size 0, or no .badblocks file? 

  
-- 
-David West            dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us

"Ce n'e'tait pas un empire comme il faut, mais nous nous sommes diablement
bien amuse's."  -Col. Fleury, aide-de-camp of Napoleon III
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: "I.P.Morris" <I.P.Morris@southampton.ac.uk>
Subject: TCP/IP code + KA9Q (net)
Reply-To: I.P.Morris@southampton.ac.uk
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:09:15 GMT

I don't know how feasable this is but how about extracting the code from phil
karns KA9Q package to use in linux's TCP/IP.

I can't remember off hand if phils code is copyrighted / lefted. But if it were
possible then it would leaves us with some very good code which we wouldn't
have to write. 

The parts we may be able to steal would be 3com card drivers, PPP, slip etc.

Unfortunately i have'nt got the hardware to rebuild the kernel (no disk space
free) and I ain't got the time. However I just thought this might help
somebody.

If the whole of what I have said is rubbish (ie copyright problems then kindly
DON'T fill up my mailbox)

BTW Linux is an amazing piece of code. Linus could teach those chapies at
Microsoft a thing or two about system stability after program crashes. I have
had programs just die and all I had to do was swith to another VC and kill the
offenidng process. Try that under windows! 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: Re: mounting files (loop patches for 98pl4, alpha)
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:04:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.214550.6683@sol.UVic.CA> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
>
>The good news:  here are the patches for loop devices as adapted
>by me for lx98p4, and they work.
>
>The bad news:  I get a segmentation violation when using df?
>It looks to be coming from the FP EMU area?
>
>So I am posting them, in the hope that someone can explain this.
>Perhaps "df" needs some change too, but it happens even
>when a file hasn't been mounted.

Well, I seem to have found what may be the problem.  I thought that
perhaps the reason "emacs" was core dumping was due to the printk
in the old stat call.  So I commented it out, recompiled and now
loop patches and df all seem to work fine?  Go figure.

Linus, can printk's like this cause timing problems for the kernel
or is it something else?

Peter
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K Johnson)
Subject: New stuff at tsx-11...
Reply-To: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K Johnson)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:57:08 GMT

doc is available, though not in its newest version.  If you want to
play with it, it is at tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin.X11/IV*

michaelkjohnson
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: martin@cs.UAlberta.CA (Tim Martin; FSO; Soil Sciences)
Subject: Ooops: compiled 98.3, now can't be root
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:03:05 GMT

HaHa!  I've been faithfully collecting the linux source and gcc
upgrades since about 0.12, and once a month or so recompiling to
whatever is the latest.  Today I grabbed linux-0.98.3.tar.Z,
added Linus's wee patches from his news posting, and compiled.
Everything compiled like a charm, and I switched my Image file
in /etc and rebooted.  Now I can no longer use any of my 
virtual consoles to log in as root!  ALT-F1 through ALT-f8 all
give me the login prompt, but when I try to log in as root, I 
am told I "can't log in as root at this console".  Of course
I can't put my old Image back, because I don't have root permission.

Wassup?

I haven't made boot diskettes for some time, but maybe I can find
an old one here that will let me in as root ....

Tim.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pcrichar@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Pat Richard)
Subject: Re: Q: X installation, font path problem?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:44:40 GMT

In article <BxFnpI.Avx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> jjeong@thoralf.uwaterloo.ca (Joohee Jeong) writes:

>I tried installing SLS package and everything worked fine
>until I startx.  It complained something about default font path,

-- stuff omitted --

>which I couldn't quite understood because that was the correct 
>failed to set default font path '/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/'
>Fatal server error:
>could not open default font 'fixed'
>
>giving up.
>xinit:  Invalid argument (errno 22):  unable to connect to X server
>xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
>

I ran into the same problem. Looking into the other Xconfig files, you'll
notice that some of them don't have the Speedo or the Type1 dirs in the 
font path. So I removed these two from my Xconfig, leaving only the
75dpi and the misc dirs in the font path. Then X worked fine.

I still haven't been able to get X to use the Type1, Speedo or Bitstream
Type1 fonts yet, though.

Also, make sure that the fonts are compressed and that there is a good
font directory in that dir (i.e. use mkfontdir)...
-- 

Smoke another, brother... and THANX for 'whatever' ! 
Pat C. Richard, 
pcrichar@cayley.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: luisma@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Luis M Torres-Garcia)
Subject: DELETE FROM LIST
Reply-To: luisma@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Luis M Torres-Garcia)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:04:53 GMT

Please delete me from the linux activists mailing list.
I now have access to comp.os.linux in my system.
Thanks for you time and efforts.

-- 
Luis M. Torres-Garcia		  	   Phone: 809 265 2419
University of Puerto Rico			
Advanced Software Engineering Laboratory   Internet: luisma@rmece02.upr.clu.edu
From: dalew@twiki.UUCP (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: New SCSI controller coming
Summary: Yes, I did do it... ;-)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:45:23 PST
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA


    I got to thinking about hard disk controllers and how my current
controller isn't compatible with other stuff I have wanted to play with
here.  Well, this seems rather limiting and I don't care much for limits so
I ordered an UltraStor 14F SCSI controller this afternoon.  I should have
the new SCSI controller this Friday (11/13/92) and be able to get it
installed, after backing up my system, this weekend.

    As soon as the new controller arrives and is installed and working
under MS-DOS, I will then be ready to venture forth into Linux World...
Since I will have to do a full restore after reformatting my hard drives
for the new controller anyway, I am also going to see if I can make a bit
more space available for Linux and any other OS that I might want to
experiment with.

    I also have the complete MCC and HLU distributions of Linux online at
my BBS (see number below) available for download (9600 Bps or faster only)
or Fido-Net File Request (session password required, 2.88Mb per request, 15
files maximum) from Fido-Net 1:105/55, FamilyNet/CFN 8:3207/7, SuperNet
43:1227/7, or MusicNet 88:8005/1.  Yes, these all point to the system in
the signature below which is my BBS.

    I hope to have the complete current SLS distribution online within the
next week or so.  BBS callers should leave me private E-Mail letting me
know you are interested specifically in the Linux files here and I'll
arrange appropriate download and time limits if you are calling at 9600 Bps
or faster.

--
Internet: dalew@pdx.com  (Waffle Beta Site)  [  HST  ]  P r a i s e   t h e
Home BBS: +1(503)335-9600 at 2400 - 9600 Bps [v.32bis]        L o r d !
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pdp@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Paul Douglas Page)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: More colours ?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 20:16:44 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

I have a Tseng Mega Eva 2 board in my Linux system and it's capable
of producing 32,000 colours in 800x600 mode under DOS. I would like
to display files that I produce in Rayshade or POVray in 32,000
colours under Linux. Has anyone written a program to do this?
Or could someone point me in the right direction of whats required
and I will have a go myself?

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: herr@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Gabor Herr)
Subject: Subject: Linux 0.98.4 wastes 2MB of memory
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:26:47 GMT
Organization: TH Darmstadt