From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Self?
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:41:29 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <BuExo6.7nI@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, dart@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling) writes:
> In article <1992Sep9.201341.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Sep9.123045.6593@iscsvax.uni.edu>, marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>> It appears that even after a time of getting going with this newsgroup, there
>>> are still no satanists on it.
> 
> 	Yes there are.  You just don't know what one is.

Well, maybe you can explain to me what, exactly, a satanist is.

> 
>>
>>Me! Mememememe!
>>
>>Most of the people here aren't even Satanists, but of the few who are, the ones
>>who actually *believe* are less likely to post, being afraid of recriminations.
>>I am one of the vocal exceptions.
> 
> 	We claim no responsibility for the absurdness of this individual.
> 	The enlightened ones merely keep him as a plaything.

OK

> 
>>
>>> Just nasty atheists.  If you worship yourself
> 
> 	No, I am a nice semitheist.  I do not know whether there is a god of any
> sort or not.  I can not see any proof that there is any sort of divinity,
> nor can I see proof that there is not any sort of divinity.
> 	Therefore, deity sort of exists right next to Schroedinger's semi-dead
> cat.

Also, please explain your concept of a semitheist.

> 
>>> (the opposite of the Christian denial of yourself), I would agree that it is
>>> "of the devil", but clearly not real satanism.
> 
> 	No, you have it wrong again.  I do not know why I should lower myself
> to explain this to you, but the enlightened ones, me and my ex-dog, have decided
> that now is a good time for PR.

What are the "enlightened ones"?

> 	We do not worship ourselves, nor do we deny ourselves.  We control our-
> selves.  That means such not based on anyone elses definition of what we should do
> while controlling ourselves.  We believe that the only appropriate government for
> a planet with a population of 6,000,000,000 people is 6,000,000,000 autarchies
> each with a population of 1 (including the king or queen -- this means themselves)
> and no capabilities to impose laws on other governments or to invade foreign 
> territory (other peoples minds).  This could quite possibly be interesting if 
> someone tried to charge a store a tarriff when they attempted to sell to them, but
> until such things get that odd, we are still trapped in an alcohol soft middle age
> of societal growth -- far from the actual adulthood most people never reach.
> 	Consider this: Who tells you what to do?  Who controls you?  Now... who
> do you control?  I mean, really control?
> 	Most people can name some person or organization that controls them, but 
> can name no one they control.
> 	I can name one person who controls me: me.  I can name one person I control:
> me.  Thus, not only am I subject to no outside control, I also have the benefit of
> getting to control myself.
> 	I am my own person and content in that.  Here, on Earth, not out in space
> on an imaginary heavenly cloud strumming a harp of gold in a place where gold is so
> profuse that it paves the streets but greed is a dedly sin (get that.)
> 	My kingdom now, content, on Earth, as xtians dream of being in heaven and
> were there such a place, would not be so.

You have some pretty interesting thoughts.  Send me some e-mail and maybe we
can talk.

> 
> 	It's funny, I have talked to many xtians that have wondered, from time to 
> time, if they are already in hell, and part of the torture is not being able to
> hear directly from their god(s).
> 	If, then, I am "damned to hell" as proselytizers would have me believe,
> perhaps those wondering xtians are right, and I truly am evil, which would explain
> why I am happy here and they are not.
> 
> 	Aside from musings...
> 
>>What is this "of the devil"? Are you an xian type?
> 
> 	No, just a mehum.
> 
> 	Didn't the Queen Bitch my Ex-Dog tell you to dance?
> 	Dog say dance, yoU DANCE for Dog!   <whipcrack>
> 
> 			
> 						dodger
> 						Sean Cannon
> 
> 


Interesting.

Evan