HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Robert Carpenter <rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov>
Subject: WNEW - WQEW Simulcast
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:07:12 GMT

A few weeks ago someone alerted this group that WNEW 1130 NYC would be
changing from popular standards to all-talk business rao on Dec 1.
On Dec 2, WQXR 1560 was supposed to change from classical to the
popular standards format -- leaving its classic on FM-only.

Well WQXR did its part of the change on time, but WNEW  didn't change
right away.  Now this morning, Dec 16, the WQEW "standards" format audio
is on both 1560 and 1130 !!!! There is no mention of why, or of anything
but the 1560 kHz frequency...

Weird.    73   Bob Carpenter


[LATER THE SAME DAY, MR CARPENTER ANSWERS HIS OWN QUESTION.]

Ok, so I sent the earlier message too soon. WQEW just announced that
their programming will be simulcast on 1560 and 1130 until January 4, 1993.
They announce that Blumberg Business News will start at that date on 1130.
(All this in New York City.)

73,
Bob Carpenter

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Robert Carpenter <rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov>
Subject: WQXR was W2XR
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:54:01 GMT


Yes, to answer the question in Internet Radio Journal #238, WQXR started as
W2XR. Butthe W<number>X<other letters> calls were NOT ham radio calls;
ie.W2XR,  W3XWT, etc., were experimental calls, all other W, number.letters
call patterns were, and are, hams.   

W2XR was started by John V.L. Hogan for  TELEVISION  experiments.
In  those early days, before all-electronic television, there was
interest in crummy low- definition TV that would fit in  15  kHz,
so  W2XR  was  allowed  a  wide-band channel just above the AM BC
band. Mr. Hogan was also a Hi Fi buff  and  played  racords  from
time-to-time when not doing TV. All-electronic TV arrived (in Eu-
rope / G.B.) by about 1936, which  made  W2XR's  15  kHz  channel
width  uninteresting.  Also the AM BC band was such a mess (sound
familiar??), that it was decided (effective 1939?) to expand  the
top  of  the band from 1500 kHz to 1600 kHz, establish the "class
4" (local) channels on 1230, 1240, 1300,...  and concentrate  the
100  and 250-watt full-time local stations there.

The larger stations in the upper part of the dial were moved up a little, 
filling the space up to 1600 kHz. For example, WJSV (now WTOP) moved
from 1460 to 1500.  In the process 1560 became a standard BC fre-
quency and W2XR became WQXR - but still had full adjacent-channel
protection for its HiFi transmission.  I  don't  know  when  they
lost that protection.

Hope this provides some background.

73, Bob Carpenter
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: allegra!rfc@allegra.att.com (Robert F. Casey)
Subject: WQXR question, was it a ham station?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:07:25 GMT

This morning (Dec 17), I happened to tune in the old WQXR, now WQEW on
1.560MHz and then decided to hear what's doing on 1.13MHz, the old WNEW-AM
station.  They were simulcasting the same program!  Heard the WQEW call 
on 1130.  This was at 8AM.  

History question: My father says that WQXR-AM 1560 was once a ham radio
station W2XR, way back when hams could play music and "broadcast".  That
transformed into "shortwave" station WQXR, as the old broadcast band only
went up to 1500KHz, and WQXR was at 1560.  Also, my father says that WQXR
AM was allowed to transmit with +-10KHz bandwidth (normal AM station 
bandwidth is +-5KHz) to yield 10KHz of received audio bandwidth.  HiFi
AM reception.  He thinks they *might* still have this authorization, but
I doubt that anyone has an AM radio that can make full use of this extra
bandwidth.  Can anyone add or verify or modify the above?

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From: WEOS-FM <BLACK%HWS1%HWS.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: NPR vs APR
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:25:58 GMT

The difference is two fold between NPR, National Public Radio, and APR,
American Public Radio. National Public Radio was the first national network
for public radio, ie CBC, PBS, etc. They are both a program producer and
distributer, andalso are trustee of the public radio satellite system. APR,
is a program distributer that is based in Minnesota, that uses the public
radio satleeite to distribute its programming. APR was traditionally music 
oriented, ie Garrison Keillor, classical stuff, etc. However, in recent
years, they have really expanded their news operation, with Monitor Radio,
hourly newscasts, BBC World Service, and CBC's As It Happens, and Sunday
Morning. I hope this helps..... 

==================================================================
|Michael R. Black               |BITNET:    BLACK%HWS1@HWS       |
|General Manager, WEOS-FM       |      or   BLACK@HWS            |
|Hobart & William Smith Colleges|PHONE:     315-781-3456         |
|Geneva, New York  14456-3397   |FAX:       315-781-3916         |
==================================================================


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From: fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Subject: Re: Old time radio shows in Lowell Mass?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:04:13 GMT

Mark Field <field@bedford.progress.com> writes:


>I have recently moved to the Nashua, NH/Lowell, MA area and would
>like to know of any stations in the area that carry any old time radio
>shows. 

>Thanks in advance for any assistance.

>[Moderator shouts *******  SCOTT *****!!!!  This one's for you!!! :-)]

What, just because I worked in Lowell? :-)

It's possible that WJUL-FM (91.5) at UMass-Lowell may carry some.
In the Boston market, the pickings have been slim since the demise of
the "Showbiz Radio" format on WRCA (1330), which was loaded with
classic radio programs.

Other than that, the best bet might be a satellite radio network
whose name I forget, which is ALL classic radio shows.  I'm sure
someone (Gary Bourgois?) on the rec.video.satellite group can add
more details on this one.

[Moderator's Note:  What has happened to the 1330 spot?  I heard (from you)
that it was sold for $10,000!!!  Gee, wish I had known :-).  Also, have you
gotten your net access problem figured out?]

Scott Fybush -- fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: bull@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Christopher J Hayes)
Subject: Relocating, help needed
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Computing Services Div., University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:03:11 GMT

	I am currently working (as an intern) at 99WMYX/am1250 WEMP
	here in Milwaukee, but at the end of this semester I will be 
	transferring to Purdue (in Indiana). The problem is that no one
	at my current station seems to know anyone in the Layfette/West
	Layfette area. I was wondering if anyone here knows some contacts
	in that market. I am willing to intern some more but I would be
	really interested in possibly getting an on air shift/production
	time.  If you happen to know anyone (the college station PD or anyone
	at the station) I would be very grateful for the information.
	Please feel free to email me at: bull@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
	
	
	Thanks for the help
	
	Chris
	
	"It's not so wrong" kmA
	a

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From: sjones@alfred.ccs.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: APR/NPR
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:19:57 GMT

Thanks to everyone who took the time to fill me in.

Stan Jones

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Subject: Re: Tape Delays
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Green Hills and Cows
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:58:17 GMT

I cannot believe I am reading all of this stuff about tape delays.
Tying up TWO Ampexes? Futzing around with A/B 77s? Spotmaster crap?
Jeez people; digital delays have come down in price that is within the
reach of the most backwoods, barnyard station that can still claim to be
serious about broadcasting. Not only do the digitals sound infinitely
better, but require absolutely no tinkering or maintenance.

Do you people have too little else to do?

-- 
 John Higdon  |   P. O. Box 7648   |   +1 408 264 4115     |       FAX:
 john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407
From: refling@sloth.eng.uci.edu (John P. Refling)
Subject: anybody know how to contact YAESU corp?
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:04:53 GMT


Would appreciate any info on how to contact / where they are located in the
usa.  I have some old transceivers i need manuals for!

thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio)
Subject: Re: SCDX 2168
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:58:43 GMT
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed below are writers own.
	<MJOHNSTO.92Dec17090659@jenny.shearson.com>
Peruutus: Mielipiteet ovat omiani.
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

In article <MJOHNSTO.92Dec17090659@jenny.shearson.com> mjohnsto@jenny.shearson.com (Mike Johnston) writes:
> In article <921217103345_70247.3516_EHB24-1@CompuServe.COM> 70247.3516@CompuServe.COM (George Wood) writes:
>    We'd also like to mention that because of problems with working conditions,
>    members of the Radio Sweden English Service may be ill during the next two
>    weeks. It is possible that some programming will be affected.

> Gee, I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like a Work Slowdown
> to me.  Either that or medical science is really advanced in Sweden:
> They're now able to predict common ailments in advance! Talk about
> preventive medicine.

This is no more in r.r.s area, but it used to be in Sweden that one
can have a 1-2 day sick leave with _full_pay_ no questions asked!

--Kauto
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****************** Kauto Huopio (huopio@kannel.lut.fi) **********************
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From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: EEB - and now for some balanced reporting...
Date: 17 Dec 92 06:53:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <SWL-L%92121621523955@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU> PERAINO@GMUVAX.BITNET writes:
>     There's been quite a lot said about EEB; most of it not very nice. I live
>nearby, and have never had any of the experiences that others have mentioned.

I too have done business with EEB and have no complaints at all. They have
always provided me top notch service. I have purchased receivers from them
mail order with mods made and everything was just fine and I have been 
satisfied with their products, service and technical assistance.
Good folks in my opinion.

-- 
Richard Crisp                 Cupertino, Ca.                crisp@netcom.com
(415) 903-3832 wk  "no more incumbents in the congress"   (408) 253 4541 fax

"one useless man is a disgrace, two are a law firm, and three?
The beginning of a Congress" -anonymous from the Internet.
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From: huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio)
Subject: Re: SWEDEN CALLING DX'ers #2167 (ATTENTION: CHRIS PETERSON)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:32:55 GMT
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed below are writers own.
Peruutus: Mielipiteet ovat omiani.
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave

In article <Bz3z5z.31s@chinet.chi.il.us> gst@chinet.chi.il.us (George S. Thurman) writes:

> (The following is a re-post from the FIDONET Shortwave Echo.  I have
> re-posted these before.  Someone sent me e-mail the last time I did this
> saying that George Wood (the writer) already posted them here.  Does
> not look as if he does, so I will continue to re-post them as I
> come across them, unless Mr. Wood starts to do it directly)

Well, SCDX 2167 _was_ posted to rec.radio.shortwave on Dec 3rd, I know
this because I archived the bulletin on the same day to nic.funet.fi
FTP archives. Is there some kind of a problem between SWL-L mailing
list and rec.radio.shortwave -newsgroup?

Note the Followup-To: -field.

--Kauto
--
****************** Kauto Huopio (huopio@kannel.lut.fi) **********************
*  Mail: Kauto Huopio, Punkkerikatu 1 A 10, SF-53850 Lappeenranta,Finland   *
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Xref: sparky rec.radio.shortwave:8784 rec.radio.amateur.misc:20571
From: mac@cis.ksu.edu (Myron A. Calhoun)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Crystal Radio Kits?
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:53:27 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu

johnl@microware.com (John Lengeling) writes:
>Is it possible to receive something other than AM on a crystal radio?

CW and SSB, if you can get your crystal to oscillate.
(Technical literature says this can be done, but is difficult.)
--Myron.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Sangean 803A:  tape out
Date: 10 Dec 92 15:24:08 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Dec9.232412.531@hnrc.tufts.edu>, jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal) writes:
> I got my son a Sangean 803A for Christmas.  It appears the tape out is a DIN
> connector.  My Radio Shack catalog doesn't seem to have a DIN to *anything*
> connector.  Does anyone know of a convenient source for a connector that
> will let him plug this thing into a portable cassette recorder?  We'll
> settle for a kluge (e.g. DIN to stereo phono, one phono to 1/8 mini).
> 
> Thanks much.

I found a source for a cable.   5 pin DIN to 1/8" mono(!)
Universal Radio in Ohio  1-800/431-3939
$14.95 + $2 S&H
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Is the Sangean ATS-800 a good buy?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 02:27:24 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

		How good is the Sangean ATS-800 ?

  This is probably a FAQ, but still.......

  I plan to buy a SW radio primarily for picking up the BBC news and cricket
commentaries. In Vancouver BC the Sangean ATS-800 does fit these requirements
and also has digital tuning and memory setting. It is available for C$ 135 
(US$ 105) here. I also checked with Sony but they do not have anything with
these features for less than $C 350. Sony does have some cheaper models 
(without digital tuning) but the salesperson gave the impression that these
would not give good reception for the BBC.
  Considering my limited objectives, is the Sangean ATS-800 a good buy?
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: WRTH vs Passport
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:46:24 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: concertina

In article <1992Dec14.234702.14028@u.washington.edu> friesen@stein.u.washington.edu (Craig Friesen) writes:
>okay, guys (and gals):
>Which one do you prefer and why?

Yes.

Passport may be a bit better for beginners, what with its basic intro to
SW listening.  The (blue) pages of tables at the back are good for someone
scanning the bands wanting to know what they've caught: The table is organized
in frequency order, giving expected transmissions during UTC hours, and shows
graphically what's expected in terms of language in use.

WRTH has more information, such as  lists of radio stations for each country,
with station addresses, and so on.  If you're trying to find out what time
BBC transmits to north america and on what frequencies, it's easier to find
here.  (The TV information isn't as useful to me...but some people probably
use the newfangled devices.)

If you want to keep up with changing schedules, Monitoring Times, with WRTH
in the background, helps even more.


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
Subject: Re: Non-English SW languages lists
Organization: Democrats for Broccoli
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:29:21 GMT
Keywords: non-English, French Spanish German

In article <say.724246005@sfu.ca> say@monashee.sfu.ca (Daniel Say) writes:
>    In the Com-West store the other day, I saw a stack of a new book
>called 'The Shortwave Radioguide' the 1993 edition being edited by John
>Figliozzi.  It lists daily and hourly programs on Shortwave in English
>and seems to be ex-Monitoring Times.  It doesn't give target areas, so
>sometimes that day and time might not be good for your area.

This book is not connected with Monitoring Times.  John has been
putting it together for the past couple of years in conjunction with
the ODXA and NASWA.  Monitoring Times came out with a competitor
last year, edited by the same person who edits their program column
in the magazine.  I haven't seen the MT book, but I got John's last
year, and was very impressed with it.  I met John at the SWL
Winterfest last year, and he was a really nice guy.  He puts a lot
of effort into the book.  I don't know what stores carry it, but I
know that both clubs sell it.
 
-- 
Ralph Brandi     ralph@mtunp.att.com     att!mtunp!ralph

R.I.P.  Red Barber, 1908-1992.
From: cg011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark M Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Radio Drama Old and New
Date: 18 Dec 1992 13:35:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hello there, I will parade my ignorance, because my need is great. I know nothing
about shortwave other than what I have read here since I doscovered this conference
yesterday.
I am interested in hearing radio dramas, old and new, and have heard that 
there a such beasts on the BBC, but could not figure out how to pick up
the BBC. Would I be correct in assuming that a relatively inexpensive
shortwave would put me in touch with the BBC, and that I could listen to
radio drama that way? 

All help will be appreciated, e-mail or here....thanks
Mark -woodwamm@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
-- 
Mark Woodward
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: yogi@techunix.technion.ac.il (Yossi Gil)
Subject: Schedule/frequency for "As it happens" and other CBC/NPR programs?
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:20:26 GMT
Summary: Information sought.
Keywords: Canada CBC NPR

Does anyone out there  have the timetable and frequencies for CBC radio
programs broadcast on shortwave?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
From: lingr1000@ucsvax.sdsu.edu (ZHANG Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: JRD 525
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:33:00 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

Could anybody help me with the use of the S-meter on the 
JRD 525?  It seems much less obvious than my sony 2010.  
It does not seem to indicate signal level, which is done on
the sony by the number of leds lit up.  It also displays
amplitude fluctuations as the audio volume change.  But should
I be looking for in the S-meter here.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: say@monashee.sfu.ca (Daniel Say)
Subject: Somalia frequencies: see new group Somalia
Summary: Pointing Shortwave people to new Usenet group on Somalia
Keywords: shortwave somalia frequencies military invasion famine
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:15:32 GMT

There is a new group of NewNet called Alt.xx.Somalia.  Use your
'G' command to "go" to 'Somalia' and you'll see about 30 (as of 12 December)
messages there among the flames and coffee on the frequencies
used over there.

	Good luck and learn Somali next year.  When peace comes,
the cafes will be charming.
From: patrick.mcdonald@f605.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Patrick McDonald)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: UAE Radio QSL received
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:57:50 GMT

Original to: Mjohnsto@Jenny.Shearson.Com
Hi there, Mjohnsto@Jenny.Shearson.Com. On Dec 03, you wrote:

 -}Just yesterday I got my QSL card, pennant, and schedule from UAE Radio in
 -}Dubai. The amazing thing, to me at least, was that I only sent the report
 -}in two weeks ago. The envelope I got from them was postmarked the 28th.
 -}This seems pretty fast. Is it?

It is . . . compared to many other international stations. However, UAE
Dubai is famous for its very rapid responses to QSL requests.

                                Patrick
 

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:36:13 EDT
Reply-To:     "Joseph O. Nattey" <JNATTEY@KENTVM.BITNET>
From:         "Joseph O. Nattey" <JNATTEY@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Scanner..

Hello,
    Best products has scanner BC855XLT on sale, and before I decide
to buy it, I would like to hear some comments(pros/cons) about it.
Also, does it cover cordless phone frequencies?.
                             thanks
                             jnattey@kentvm.kent.edu
From: rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu (N7YVM)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: EEB - and now for some balanced reporting...
Date: 19 Dec 1992 01:39:47 GMT
Organization: Free Software Foundation
NNTP-Posting-Host: spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <1992Dec18.131945.3385@netcom.com> joe@netcom.com (Joseph Jesson) writes:
>
>
>
> I like to order receivers mail order... Universal beats all as they take
> a quality and a "customer comes first" view in every case...
>
>
>


I agree 101%. Universal is one top-notch dealer for radio gear. They DO
take customer satisfaction and service very seriously. EEB seems like
they are being troubled by you, J&R really cant answer questions about
the radios to my satisfaction. Universal has very knowledgable tech help
and they really bend over backwards to please. I give them my business
whenever I can. 

Yes, I like Universal Radio! 

-- 
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N7YVM                        
and some other stuff
From: fargher@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Fargher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Ferrite Toroids and Baluns
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:34:28 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Keywords: Audio Filters, Balun

I'm posting these questions for a more technologically astute friend who
doesn't have Internet access.  I hope you can help him, because I don't even
understand the questions!

1) Could ferrite toroids by Amidon (FT-82-75) with high permeability
(5000) be used to build a low pass audio filter with cut-off frequency of
3 kHz (-3dB)?  Specified resonant circut frequency is 1 kHz - 1 MHz for
this material.

2.) What kind of balun is used in professional dipole set-up, for
listening only?  Is it voltage or current 1:1 type?

                            Cheers, Rob
-- 
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Dept. of Physiology, UBC             |  absolutely nothing about is increasing
Vancouver, BC, Canada, V6T 1Z3       |  at an alarming rate!

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