From: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Sohban Shahid)
Subject: Re: Dirty and rotten politics of Imran
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:36:55 GMT
Reply-To: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Colorado State U. Civil Engineering

Hmm, I got some good replies from the most respected
netters of this ng.  Salman, you are right this punjab-
sindh or lahore-karachi (more sounding) civil war has
started. JM's has made his point and mickey mouse (BCCP) 
is trying to get away with it.

Lahori pond if half of the pakistani side has opposed
to play under Miandad b'cos of his age then why not 
use the same argument this time.  Do you want to change
rules and policies as they suit you the most? Well, if
the response is yes, its not too surprising b'cos this
is how the things work. 

Shamim and Lahori pond, tell me one thing where is Mianwali?
Is it not in Punjab and I think Imran is basically from
that city.  And Shamim you have said that non of trio's 
are from Punjab as they have Khan attached at the end of
the their names but by adding Khan no one can become a 
pathan by cast.  I know that Dr Jahangir's family is
living in Punjab for quite a while and on that basis I 
definitely will consider them from Punjab.  But it would
be a surprise for me if they turns out to be Pathan.
Imran Khan Niazi ---pathan ...woo.

Shamim from here on I will try to make your facts more 
clear.
        (shamim, I'm not putting arguments for the sake
         of arguments so please go through them)
Fact 1: By adding 'Khan' one can not become a Pathan.
        I met Majid Khan and by no means he can speak
        pashtoo, he has a beautiful punjabi accent.
        Don't say that their forefather came from Afganistan.
        Weak argument used by cast immitants alot.
Fact 2: After Imran, Miandad was the only choice and Majid
        was in a fix position so he did it without his will.
Fact 3: Cricketers like Gooch, Gower, Gavaskar, Miandad are
        born cricketers and if someone praise their elegance
        then it shows no pinnacle knowledge but reading truth
        of the wall.  Please send me videos when JB commented
        about Mohsin and shoaib in particular.  Listening to 
        his comments make you feel that either he doesn't have
        a clue of the game or he is a complete jerk. 
Fact 4: Yes, Imran gave a public statement when water crossed 
        his head but at first he did say that there is going
        to be no gap in the Pakistan side if Miandad is not fit.
        Miandad was not playing upto his standards and his back
        problem was also not keeping him hundred percent fit so
        that was the perfect timming for kicking his *** and 
        selectors did exactly what they had in their mind for
        ages.  It was the local pressure and especially from
        Karachi and Hyderabad when they started twisting the
        whole issue and later they sent Miandad to Australia. 
        Check Salim Maliks record in Australia and you can convince
        yourself easily that he is not the perfect choice over
        there and Imran laid down his strategy according to it.
        Shamim if Imran has praised Miandad heaven high then it is
        not unusual b'cos its a well known fact which needs no 
        confirmation from Imran or anyone.  Denying hight of mount
        Everest is something that can make me a fool in day light. 
Fact 5: Yes any xyz can become a best choice but not before Miandad
        and that is the whole issue.  It is a great insult to
        Miandad that he lost his captaincy b'cos of others dislike
        twice in his career.
        Honestly and frankly tell me is this not a naked injustice
        to a person who does not fit into the minds of his worldly
        gods?  Just tell me one good reason why he was sacked? If the
        score of 70 and 80 is his fault then what about senior
        players like Ramiz and Salim Malik.  Selection committee
        should have to kick them out the team.  But no, those son
        of the soil will remain there as before and the misfit has
        paid the penalty.  You can not put blame of everything on
        one single person but rules differ in Pakistan from person
        to person.  And you will notice that this time no player
        will make hue and cry for Miandad or even show his
        sympathies for him.  This is how things really work in
        Pakistan.
Fact 6: Imran and Majid may hate each other but their goals and
        objectives are more or less the same.  Majid was a Khalifa
        and Imran is miles ahead of him.
Fact 7: Majid resigned yesterday....whatta joke. Sarai chohai kha 
        ker billi gahar ko chali.

Shamim about Zaheer and Majid I will only say that when Zaheer got
fired he was in form but when Majid was fired he was off color. The 
sacking and firing of circketers during Imrans period was very much
an ego problem and you will not deny this. Your pros point is well
accepted but we really have to show some kind of a descency in
public if not on individual basis. BTW, JM's punjab's wife won't 
help him out as this ethnic-virus is far far out of control. Raza
Syed has written in his post that rumors are that the sacking is
political and Javed has already showed his discomfort on it so what
else you want him to do...bang someone like Imran or BCCP.  You may
not agree with me but the selection committee has made a blunder
and they gonna repent it soon.  Public has seen both the england
and OZ series.  As a neutral observer you tell me how come the 
captain is sacked for winning two test series and losing badly one
tournament.  To be fair enough you should raise voice to kick Ramiz
and Salim Malik out of the team as they didn't full fill their
responsibilities.  

No one change the situation if someone has hurt the feeling of 
Miandad but an honest person must say that this is total injustice
to him and should stand right by his side.  It doesn't really
matter that he play for Pakistan or not but it does matter to lot
of cricket lover who still wants to see his game.  And I will say
that under these circumstances he should not play and see Pakistan
defeating badly in WI and SA which is quite evident at present. 
You are a great supporter of Salim Malik but I will say loud that even
if you have four Salim Malik in your side you can never win in
Australia and New Zealand.  He is only for Pakistan and England.    
-- 
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Moments that'll come after are worth knowing !
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SOHBAN SHAHID                
Civil Engg. Dept.                (303) 491 7710/8204 (work)
Colorado State University        (303) 224 0397  (home)
Ft. Collins, CO-80523

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