From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,rec.scouting
Subject: Re: Levis Drops Boy Scouts...
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:17:22 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.homosexuality

In article <1992Aug10.212653.7417@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, jfh@greenber.austin.ibm.com (John F Haugh II) writes:
> In article <Bsr34G.w7@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tinsel@uiuc.edu writes:
> >No, it's because their moral values can't conscience unwarranted
> >discrimination.  Nether can mine.

> That's OK, because my moral values can't abide by sexual promiscuity,
> disregard for human life and health, needless sexual abuse, or a
> slew of other offenses that hide behind homosexuality as a
> political agenda.

There we have it John finally admits that moral values are relative
to the individual.

what about hiding your ( thats right John.. your.. personal.. homosexual..
feelings..) behind conservatism as a political agenda.

Really its so transparent that you are genuinely making a fool of yourself.

> Besides, "discrimination" does not mean "evil, mean, or nasty".
> It just means that one is able to discern between two different
> objects or lifestyles.  

It has multiple meanings John, it also means to give unfair treatment
because of prejudice. 

> On the one hand we have the BSA which tries
> to promote clean living and respect for others.  And on the other
> we have homosexuals who promote lewd behavior, sexual promiscuity,
> and attacks against the health and welfare of innocent persons.

On he one hand we have Levis who choose not to give away their hard earned
money to organisations who discriminate unfairly, it's their money, its
their choice.
and on the other we have people like you who promote hate and intolerance 
while demanding that  Levis abrogate their choice to suit you.
How .. moral, .. how... insolent, .. how utterly charming

> It's easy to "discriminate" between the two.  The first leads to
> more young men who are willing to contribute positively to the
> strength and security of this nation.  The second leads to more
> young men who are infected with various diseases - such as AIDS,
> TB, Hepatitis B, ...

Like the fine upstanding Boy scouts right now who know they are Gay
but must learn to hide it and lie in order to stay with their friends.

What you are refusing to see is that Gay Youth also need to have 
models of clean living and respect for others. What you have ignored is the
fact that there are Gay men and women who are fine upstanding, 
people, good respectful people who happen to have a different sexual
preference to yours. You on the other hand are such a fine model, teaching 
our youth that discrimination and bigotry are morally right. That
ignorance and fear are usefull models to live their life by.

lets hear it from the others , how many of you straight guys would want
John Haugh as the scout master for your sons.

John you have let your inner conflict fester and become a publicly visible
sore. Its ugly and its sad. By convincing yourself that your inner urges 
sinfull, you have attracted all manner of demonic tormenbt, and the saddest
part is that it doesn't have to be that way. It certainly isn't for the rest
of us no matter how much you protest to the contrary.


Fact of the matter John, I wouldn't let you pet sit for me, never mind trust
children to your care!

LUX ./. owen

--
D. Owen Rowley {uunet,fernwood,sun}!autodesk!owen

  " It will be a cold March 17th that I celebrate the imposition of
	Romes rule, on Pagan Ireland. Erin go ppphhhhhttttttt! "
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