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From: rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:31:32 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

The problem I have with "gratuitous" sex scenes in modern movies is
not when they specifically don't have any place in the story line but
when the scenes are contrived so as to make them seem like some kind of an
integral part of the story when they're not. I mean, there's only so much can
be done to make these scenes fit (mind you I'm talking about the obligatory
sex  scenes, not the ones that really do form an important element in
the story. Take The Postman Always Rings Twice, for instance. The lusty,
violent sex scene between Nicholson and Lange did a lot to tell us
about the personalities of these characters, and so the scene "fits.").

Personally, I'd rather the movie makers would just have sex scenes
inserted as, well, sex scenes--like, a car chase is a car chase, right?--
than to goofy them all up to make them *seem* like important elements
in the plot.
-- 
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	as the artist claimed, simply neutral, abstract
	compositions devoid of external references and
	meanings?" ***********************************
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From: tdawson@david.wheaton.edu (Anthony Palmer Dawson)
Subject: Akira Kurosawa Films on Video?
Organization: Wheaton College
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:11:11 GMT

I would like to know which Kurosawa films have been released on
video, and when his latest films are likely to appear in stores.
I found Rashoman, The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo, Throne of Blood,
Seven Samauri, High and Low, and Ran at local video stores, but
would like to see more, especially Red Beard and Rhapsody in
August.
         
Many thanks,

Tony

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From: otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 00:27:31 EDT
Organization: Jyvaskyla Electronic Mailbox

gckchin@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Kelvyn Chin) writes:

> BTW, what is the "typical Cronenberg masterpiece" that you saw? I don't 
> recall "The Fly" or "Dead Ringers" having as much gut impact as Naked
> Lunch, and they were pretty straight-forward, too.

Something like "Videodrome".

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 06:56:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.114956.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
>
>The last movie I walked out of in the middle was U2's Rattle and Hum.
>
>How pretentious and arrogant that film was!  It was truly appalling.
>
It also wins my vote for "Best Spinal Tap Impersonation By a Real Band" 
award :)

Interviewer: How would you describe your new album?

Larry Mullen: Uh, uh, uh...It's like...it's like..uh..a musical journey, yeah...

I kept waiting for Bono to do "Lick My Love Pump"...

The part where they visit Graceland only confirmed it for me...

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From: hist1261@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Oscar Request
Date: 30 Aug 92 12:54:01 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Could someone out there with better reference books that I please supply
me with a list of nominations for Best Director and Best Supporting
Actress for the 1989 Oscars (the 62nd Awards)?  It would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Richard.

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From: AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:36:08 GMT

In article <92245.082714CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu>,
CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu (Charles Fee) writes:
>In article <w-jnnna.bagus@netcom.com>, bagus@netcom.com (Mark E. Ruedy) says:
>>
>>That would be "Space Balls", (I think thats the title).  The cast included
>>Rick Moranis, and others.  Didn't sound too bad, but *boy* was it shit!
>>
>Huh? I laughed and laughed and laughed.. I still watch that movie to this day..
>One of the funniest movies I've ever seen. This is Mel Brooks at his
>absolute best!                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  You obviously haven't seen "The Producers".

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From: teexijd@ioe.ac.uk (IAN DAVENPORT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: REALLLLLLY bad embarassing movies
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:24:00 GMT
Organization: Institute of Education, University of London

Ah well. Since the thread has slipped a little towards the video end, and
there is considerable embarassment value to be had from returning videos,
here are my candidates for crapness...

Dark side if the Moon, The Taking of Beverly Hills, Witchcraft.

Ian J Davenport    MULLARD SPACE SCIENCE LABORATORY   ijd@uk.ac.ucl.mssl

                    "Who got that video out..?"
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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Alien 3 - A Real Good Movie
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:41:45 GMT

In article <Bu0DI4.3K8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) writes:
>kjellr@sofus.dhhalden.no (Kjell Are Refsvik) writes:
>>By the way. I hear that a extended version (apx. 20 mins.) of Aliens (2) is
>>available on video. Has someone seen this??? Is is worth $30?

There was an extended version of Aliens released in the UK (i.e. PAL format
tape) and perhaps the rest of Europe too which is basically the same as
the NTSC extended version of Aliens we have here in the States (except,
of course, for the fact it's on LD instead of VHS).  I felt the extra
footage improved the movie by further developing the plot and characters;
others feel it ruined some of the movie's suspense and just made a long
film even longer.  I'd suggest trying to watch it before you buy and make
up your mind then; some people favor the extended version, others prefer
the original.

>  I heard that there is an extended version of Alien (the original).  It has
>  a scene where Ripley finds Dallas in a cocoon with maggots all over him.

Sort of.  There is that scene on the forthcoming extended version of Alien.
However, it is not integrated back into the film the way the extra footage
in Aliens was, but rather it is on the supplemental disc.  The movie itself
is untouched, other than being letterboxed, maybe restored, etc.
-- 
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Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
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From: pfalstad@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Paul Falstad)
Subject: movie scripts wanted
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: League For Fighting Chartered Accountancy
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:35:37 GMT

Hello,
  Does anyone know where I could order screenplays to various recent movies?
I think that a while back, someone gave the address of a place that sold
scripts, and was actually discussing scripts to movies that were not in release
yet...

Thanks in advance.

-- 
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Toto le Heros
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 17:33:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.234346.24439@ccu.umanitoba.ca> feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld) writes:
>"Toto" is roughly "Tommy", a hero only in his own mind, until the
>movie's end.  A wry comedy, they told me.
>So why did I cry half way through, why did I hide my head rather than
>watch Toto's life disintegrate?  Two wan smiles were all the humour
>that managed to surface.
>But it won prizes, no?  At Cannes?
>Did anyone enjoy watching it?  Did anyone have a good time?

"Toto Le Heros" does not tell a very happy story, unless you consider
that its hero gets what he wanted most, at the end.  But I thought it
told it in a very engaging way, with humor that leavened the fundamentally
sad story of a man who essentially ruins his own life through a fantasy.
Even if you didn't find it funny, does not the fact that it made you
cry and feel a bit embarrassed to watch suggest that it is a powerful
piece of art, worthy of plaudits?  After all, the writer/director 
created a character out of whole cloth and made you feel for him,
despite there being no actual reality whatsoever behind him.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: 'Arthur' King of the Badly Dubbed Britons (was Re: Most Embarassing Movie)
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:03:01 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <1992Sep3.173538.6983@tamsun.tamu.edu> jeff@jeckle.tamu.edu (Jeff Raymond) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.155858.5666@riacs.edu> howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:
>>k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:
>>
>><Talking about "Excalibur" got me to thinking about the actor who portrayed 
>><Arthur. I can't recall seeing him in *anything* after that film came out.
>Nigel Terry
>portrayed King Arthur.  I've only seen him in one or two other films, only
>one of which I can remember the name of.  In any event, they tend toward the
>"art film" end of the spectrum.  

Nigel Terry appeared as Prince John in "The Lion In Winter".  More recently
(right now, in fact, but not for much longer) he appeared in "Christopher
Columbus - The Discovery", playing a villanous type out to murder the title
character.  The TV series he appears in is "Covington Cross".


--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:16:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: zip.1992Aug29.231642.24540
Organization: Eastern Michigan University

In article <9yH7PB2w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> dascoser.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
>I was just trying to think about which film had the least number of 
>actors. The smallest I could thing of is Breakfast Club which only has 
>(I'm going by charters description here)
>
>  [list deleted]
>
>A total of twelve actors in all, five of which aren't seen again after 
>the first few minutes of the film and have minimal to no lines.
>Can anyone think of a film with less (Nature films, cartoons, 
>documentarys and film of that sort don't count.

Do crowd scenes count?  If not, then I think we can include the movie
version of Deathtrap which had . . . um . . . four if memory serves me
right: Michael Caine (right?), Christopher Reeve, and the two women.
Been a while since I've seen it.

Another movie who's name I can't recall was this weird suspense film
with Malcolm MacDowall (sp?) and some woman whose name escapes me.  I'm
pretty sure it was a one-word title, something on the order of "The
Stranger" or "The Intruder."  In any case, it was a long, suspenseful
movie with a (IMHO) cop-out science fiction ending but it only had two
characters.  Seems to be a record.

Also, how about The Quiet Earth?  Only three characters I believe . . . 

	-- Stewart "bad memory for actress' names.  Sorry." Tame

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From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Alien 3 - A Real Good Movie
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:25:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu2M3D.JFM
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


    The only problem I have between Aliens and Alien 3 is how a face alien got
    on the mother ship and impregnated Ripley.  I thought that it was great to
    the storyline of Alien 3, but I wished they could have shown how that
    face alien got on the ship.  The mother alien obviously wasn't carrying
    it in Aliens.  How do I know?  I don't, but it is expected.

    But anyway, I thought Alien 3 was a very good movie with a cheesy ending.


-- 
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From: hempling@quorum.com (David B. Hempling)
Subject: Gerald's Game (Was Re: Pet Sematary II)
Originator: hempling@parker
Organization: Quorum Software Systems, Inc.
Distribution: rec.arts.movies
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:32:09 GMT

tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett) writes:

>No offense Stephen, but if you don't like the way
>they treat you and hack your work, don't give it to them in
>the first place... don't whin about it to your fans.

I just finished reading his latest book "Gerald's Game". I felt
it was certainly an improvement over the last SK book I read,
"The Dark Half". 

Anyone else out that read "Gerald's Game" and think it would
make a good movie? It is a little gorier than his other works.

(Meaningless Spoiler...)
Portraying the voices in Jesse's head might be an interesting
trick.  :-)

dave
hempling@quorum.com	"Friends don't let friends vote Republican!"
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From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:59:36 GMT

In article <BtyJDK.6Cn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep2.093200.10512@waikato.ac.nz> hist1261@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep1.155303.12466@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, bjbartlett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (The Bart-Man) writes:
>>>> In article <1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:
>>>>>  What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
>>>>>  embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
>>>>>  up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
>>>>>  who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
>>>>>  your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)
>>>> 
>>>>   "Top Secret"!
>>>> 
>>>> -Bart
>>>> 
>>>
>>>I protest!  One of the great comedies of the 1980's!
>>>
>>>Richard.
>>>
>
>>I concur! Just what we needed, a surfing, Nazi, Rock and roll romantic comedy,
>>or something. I loved it, and I just watched it for the 6th time last week!
>>ah well!
>
>
>I take it you've seen "Surf Nazis Must Die" as well?
>
>
>                                      --Steve Stelter
>                                        sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>
>
>
>"Who rules the waves?"     "THE SURFERS!"
>"Who rules the surfers?"   "SURF NAZIS!"

Yes, I saw "Surf Nazi's Must Die". Great title, but apart from some good
surfing footage, and some sharp dialogue, it bored the hell out of me.    
I wasn't embarassed to see it, though...

					--Judex--

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From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: letterboxed VHS movies?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:20:13 GMT


What movies are letterboxed on VHS? The only one I've seen around
is Manhattan.
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
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From: chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
In-reply-to: slb3y@cc.usu.edu's message of 1 Sep 92 19:15:39 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Univ. of California, Irvine
	<1992Aug28.191312.23885@bnr.ca>
	<1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
	<1992Sep1.131539.58549@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:57:06 GMT


The most embarassing movie?  Easy, another vote for Peter Greenaway's
masturbation fantasy Prospero's Books.  Ceaseless, unending, mind-numbing
bad-art-damage.  I felt like paisley-colored shit had been dumped on me
for three hours (all artfully filmed of course)

It's too bad, because I thought that the computer animated books were kinda
nifty, but alas gimmicks do not an "art movie" make.

-Chris
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From: smith@panther.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith)
Subject: Re: Elvis movies
Organization: Adelphi University Swirbul Library
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:44:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.213148.28762@midway.uchicago.edu> pedlow@ysidro.uchicago.edu (Steven Pedlow) writes:

>    I am looking for a list of all movies that Elvis was in.  A
>reference book hint would also be helpful!  Thanks!

>                Steven

>P.S.  That's Elvis Presley  :)

>Steven Pedlow                     "Do not blaspheme!  It is the gods
>Univ. of Chicago                   who weep...  they cannot protect
>Dept. of Statistics                us from ourselves"
>pedlow@galton.uchicago.edu                -- The Fool in "Ran"

Well, Steve, according to page 511 of The International Dictionary of 
Films and Filmmakers: Volume III, Actors and Actresses, Evlis did:
1956-Love Me Tender
1957-Loving You
1957-Jailhouse Rock
1958-King Creole
1960-G.I.Blues
1960-Flaming Star
1961-Wild in the Country
1961-Blue Hawaii
1962-Follow That Dream
1962-Follow That Dream
1962-Grils! Girls! Girls!
1963-It Happened at the World's Fair
1963-Fun in Acapulco
1964-Kissin' Cousins
1964-Viva Las Vagas
1964-Roustabout
1965-Girl Happy
1965-Tickle Me
1965-Harum Scarum
1966-Frankie and Johny
1966-Paradise Hawaiian Style
1966-Spinout
1967-Easy Come, Easy Go
1967-Double Trouble
1967-Clambake
1968-Stay Away Joe
1968-Speedway
1968-Live a Little, Love a Little
1969-Charro!
1969-The Trouble with Girls
1969-Change of Habit
1970-Elvis, That's the Way it is
1972-Elvis on Tour

The editors note: "No major star suffered through more bad movies than Elvis 
Presley.  Of the 31 movies he made in his decade and a half as a movie star, 
arguably only Don Siegel's _Flaming Star_-a non-singing role for Presley-
has any redeeming value beyond the star's appearance."

Hum... I just saw _Love Me Tender_ last night.  I found it to be "a tad" 
long in the middle, but interesting in that it's the King's first flick.  He 
appears to sing and move himself about in a most interesting '50's manner.  
Not a great "after the Civil War was over" type flick.  I plan to look at 
Flaming Star tonight.

Jim Smith
smith1.franklin@panther.adelphi.edu
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: best shots wanted
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:37:43 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

WAS>How about the opening sequence of "Apocalypse Now"? Or the baby-carriage-
WAS>down-the-stairs scene from "Untouchables"? And I know you're not interested
WAS>in those b&w classics, but I don't think anything has ever topped the shot

     The baby-carriage-down-the-stairs in "The Untouchables" was taken
     directly from the massacre on the Odessa Steps in "Battleship
     Potemkin" - probably the most famous movie shot of all time.
     You've seen that particular scene in MANY movies, even if you
     didn't know where it came from.
---
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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:08:17 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

pete@minster.york.ac.uk writes:

>Mike Haskell (mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com) wrote:
>: 
>:  What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
>:  embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
>:  up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
>:  who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
>:  your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)
>
>Home Alone. No contest (although it was on at the University film society
>and I didn't pay...) Laugh? I nearly started.

I wasn't embarassed that I went to see it, but I was disgusted by
my fellow watcher's laughter.

I like violent movies, in general.  Love kung fu flicks, terminator-type
movies, and "mysteries" with lots of sex and violence.  But for some
reason I was disgusted by Home Alone, and was not close to laughter.

Maybe because the violence reminded me so much of children's cartoon
violence but it was happening to real people.  Don't know what it was,
but it disturbed me more than most other movies.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
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From: edsum02@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Cassondra Pope)
Subject: Re: Upcoming movies (Malcolm X)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 28 Aug 1992 15:28 EDT  

In article <1992Aug27.134626.28122@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jor1@hera.uucp (24315-rich) writes...
> 
>Malcolm X is an A-hole.

You know that old addage, IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE!

If your gonna make a statement like this, back it up with some FACT, REASON,
PROOF. Until you do, YOUR THE A-HOLE!!!!!!!!

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