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From: keserovi@latcs5.lat.oz.au (  GORAN K. )
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.misc
Subject: Re: Sarajevo pix in NY Times magazine
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:38:59 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1992Jul28.162327.1024@athena.mit.edu> dmatic@athena.mit.edu (Davor Matic) writes:
>In article <28JUL199208060474@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov> packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
> LOTS OF VERY RIDICULOUS STUFF
>
>
>Of all the nationalistic and intolerant articles posted here yours is
>the one that disturbes me the most.  Maybe for you the war on the
>teritory of ex Yugoslavia is not real, but for the people whose
>closest have died, it is more then real - it's terrifying!  I don't
>know where you grew up and what your morals are, but I have trouble
>with your acceptance of human casualties so easily.  So maybe you need
>to readjust your values and do some soul searching in order to
>determine what is real for somebody, and what isn't.  And rather than
>criticising people for not willing to be poked by journalists, maybe
>you should poke yourself with a couple of bullets and see how real it
>gets...
>
>		Hope there is still humanity on this planet!
>
>				--- Davor

  Or even better.......Why doesn't Mr. Packer get on the next 
  possible flight to Europe and then go to Sarajevo and see with
  his own eyes whether or not there is a war going on. 
  Then he might stop posting his crap on the news.
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From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Subject: Re: Sarajevo: No new bullet holes
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:28:47 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:

>In article <adams.711647470@spssig>, adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes...
>>LITERALLY destroyed?  No.  Effectively destroyed?  Yes.  


>Well, the NY Times said, on June 7, "Almost every major building...
>has been severly damaged, some by more than 100 hits by high-explosive
>shells." This seems pretty literal to me, and is the reason why
>the Yugoslavian thing is of special interest now. 
Well, defined 'major'.  If you define major as those buildings used for
commerce, such as major shopping areas, or for government services, such as
ministry buildings, fire stations, police stations, etc. then perhaps this
is absolutely true.  If I were shelling a city, I wouldn't waste a whole
lot of ammo shelling individual residences or apartment buildings....

>Before, the Times only created an impression that something terrible was 
>happening, by noting deaths or something similarly difficult for an 
>outsider to verify. Now they've said that "almost every major building" in
>a major city is "severely" damaged. I think with this statement
>they've gone too far and I intend to call their bluff, so to speak,
>by verifying with my own eyes and camera whether it's a fiction or not.

Your definition of 'major' may well have to do with size.  I don't know
theirs, but mine would include the following:

  Ministry Buildings (ie Govt. Agencies)
  Police Stations
  Schools/Universities
  Fire Stations
  Shopping areas
  Industrial areas
  Transportation centers
  Hospitals

and other target of opportunity...

By no means would this consist of a majority of buildings...but it would
effectively ruin the city...

 -Steve
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From: deguc@holein1.Corp.Sun.COM (Bob Deguc)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: Re: Willie horton's revenge
Date: 21 Jul 1992 18:59:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article 3004@desire.wright.edu, demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
> 
> 	When one uses the term "Repbulicans" it usually denotes "Rebpulican
> Party".  Ed would have used "a Republican" if it was his intent to single out
> one person.  Ed?

To me, when one uses Republicans, it means Republicans, as in members of the
Republican party.  Brown (and his like) *are* members of that party are they
not?

> 
> 	Both the Bush campaign and the RP contacted Mr. Brown and told him to
> stop airing the ads.  This was the day they learned of the ads.

Please post evidence of this.  Bush has done this as of late but I don't 
recall reading/seeing/hearing *any* evidence of him doing it in 1988.

Bob
From: lush@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: Explosion in Israel
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:10:33 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

About 2 am this morning I heard on the radio a breaking news
story about an explosion at a secret military base "in the middle
of Israel."  The reporter said something about a mushroom cloud,
said it was like an earthquake, and compared it to a SCUD coming
down from Saddam Hussein (there was no basis for this analogy, but
he said it).  This morning there was nothing on the radio about it.

Has anyone heard anything about this?

Greg
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Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
From: noah@acs.harding.edu
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:39:58 -0500
Reply-To: noah@acs.harding.edu
 <1992Jul27.170706.4768@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com>,<nate.392@psygate.psych.indiana.edu>
Organization: Harding University

This is completely off the subject, but if you listen to Rush Limbaugh at all
you have heard him talk about Comp-U-Serv. I know you can send mail to members
of Comp-U-Serv. How is this done and does anyone know Rush's address.
Thanks

John Noah
Noah@acs.harding.edu
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From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Summary: HEY!  The Chutzpanazis did it again.
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:16:32 GMT
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Anybody notice how the issue got switched from the Friends of Israel
programming Rush to prayer in school?

Doesn't anyone have even a tiny thought on the subject?

Why the hell does the subject never come up?

arf

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From: dan@barkley.berkeley.edu (dan graves)
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Subject: Re: Schmidling is simply wrong.
Date: 31 Jul 1992 15:36:58 GMT
Organization: University of California Berkeley
Distribution: world
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In article <EGGERTJ.92Jul30165655@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu>, eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
|> In article <159680INN7pj@agate.berkeley.edu> dan@jonas.berkeley.edu (dan graves) writes:
|> >   We support Israel
|> >   because it is in our interests to support the  only democracy
|> >   of the region.   Democracies make better allies and 
|> >   Israel has been one of USA's most steadfast allies.
|> 
|> 
|> I don't understand what you mean when you say that Israel has been one
|> of the USA's most steadfast allies.  Do you mean that the US has, in
|> time of need, been able to go to Israel for help?  Do you mean that
|> Israel has done its best to do what the US wants it to do?  Please
|> explain.
|> --
|> =Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)

Israel always supported us diplomatically when  our 
incompetant president Ronald Reagan  wanted us to 
do something stupid like negotiate with terrorists.
They even abstained from retailiating against their
enemies when their citizens were murdered by rocket
attacks, just because we asked them to.  I would
call this very steadfast.  I doubt any of the brutal
dictatorships of the region would do the same.  The 
current administration is willing to accept much of
the smoke and mirrors of the Arab dictatorships
as support.  Israel has supported us with concrete and
(in the case of the scuds) potentially dangerous action.

Now i ask you to comment on the most important point i made
in the earlier post.  Israel is not (unlike these brutal 
dictatorships) motivated by conquest or the politics of hatred.
Israel defends itself, every nation's right.

dan

by the way, thank you for a courteous and civil post.
i hope that i have responded in kind. 
From: Tom.Cavender@iphase.UUCP (Tom Cavender)
Sender: FredGate@iphase.UUCP
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: Robertson on clinton
Date: 23 Jul 92  19:35:00 EST

You knew it had to happen.  Pat Ayatollah Robertson had to open mouth and insert foot on the present presidential campaign.  Here's an item from the 7-21-92 USA TODAY, submitted for your approval:

        EVANGELISTS BLAST CLINTON SPEECH Two well known-evangelists, both supporters of Republican issues, say Democrat Bill Clinton misquoted the Bible in his acceptance speech last week.  Clinton, a Southern Baptist, cited several Biblical passages in his speech, including use of a "new covenant" as his campaign theme.

TV evangelist and 1988 GOP presidential candidate Pat Robertson charged Clinton only partially quoted Biblical passages and failed to mention their full religious contexts.

Robertson, speaking on his 700 CLUB show (carried on cable and 377 TV stations) noted that Clinton's call for a "new covenant" with voters-- mentioned 10 times in last week's speech-- was a term used by Jesus as he poured wine, representing his blood, for apostles at the Last Supper.

"If it isn't blasphemous, it certainly borders on it," said Robertson, who cited Clinton's prochoice stance on abortion.  "This to me, is extremely dangerous...Don't come up with pseudo-Christianity to mask what you're doing."

And Jerry Falwell, who plans to attend the GOP convention in Houston next month, released a statement saying "misquoting and manipulating the Holy Scripture for political purposes should be offensive to millions of Americans...It is certainly a more significant error than the much publicized misspelling of potato."
      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Now, does Pat have a copyright on the words "new covenant"?  And, what was that about pseudo-Christianity?  I would think that Pat has a little more of a corner on THAT one.

Pax,

<<<Tom Cavender>>>

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From: Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Date: 28 Jul 1992 20:53:56 GMT
Organization: LBL
Distribution: world
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I heard an interesting talk show on 7/27/92 concerning a new book titled
"What the Government Isn't Telling You About AIDS."  The author of the
book, Dr. Lorraine Day of UC San Francisco, offered her findings on the
air and fielded questions from listeners.  According to her, research has
shown that the AIDS virus is not a fragile virus and that it may survive
up to 7 days in a dry environment and up to 14 days in a moist one.  It
follows from this that AIDS may be transmitted through all types of
bodily fluids, including sweat, and not just through blood.  She mentions
other interesting findings on AIDS which she says the government is
intentionally hiding from the public.  Her findings are all based on
clinincal research documentation done around the world.  Her book may be
ordered by phone at (800) 537-2437.  I hope people who have heard
anything about Dr. Day or her book will post their thoughts to this
newsgroup.  Thank you very much.
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From: billtutt@iowegia.uucp (Bill Tutt)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic,alt.c
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 12:39:30 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Waffle BBS, Clive IA USA, +1 515 226 2156

pembroke@maple.circa.ufl.edu (PEMBROKE) writes:

> In article <1992Jul20.025204.4083@ddsw1.mcs.com>, arf@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jack Sch
> > 
> > Considering the fact that Israel is the single largest 
> > recipient of American Taxpayers' money and further 
> > considering that the "Friends of Israel" are the single most 
> > powerful corrupting force in the Congress of the United 
> > States, it is a bit telling that he NEVER brings up the 
> > subject and dismisses it with one liners if a caller ever 
> > dares to bring it up.
> 
> My, this certainly is a misrepresentation of the facts.  I always thought tha
> the Department of Defense got the largest chunk of the national budget.
> 
> Which is interesting... I believe that the manupulation of facts is worse tha
> censorship...

I think you should take a better look at the budget.  Social programs get 
the most money, period.  However he may be refering to the U.S.'s foreign 
aide budget, but I couldn't tell you if Isreal is indeed the largest 
recipiant of such funds.

:--------------------------------------------------------------:
:  Bill Tutt                             billtutt@iowegia.uucp :
|  There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and    |
|  the sea's asleep and the rivers dream; people made of smoke |
|  and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, some-    |
|  where there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is      |
|  getting cold. Come on, we've got work to do.                |
|                                                              |
|         The Doctor in "Survival"                             |
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:30:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.000223.5231@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>friedenb@ruby.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) writes:
>
>>Larry King (also a talk-show host) as well as a number of other talk
>>show hosts have publicly questioned Rush Limbaugh's feelings towards
>>blacks, women and all minorities.

>
>>He is not much more than a hate monger hiding behind a smoke-screen 
>>which he calls patriotism.  This is not unusual (historically).
>
>I publicly question your ability to back this statement up with some
>facts.					
>
>>Gedaliah Friedenberg
>			Jim Del Vecchio

Well, i have never heard Rush on the subject of race. The only time I was
unfortunate enough to hear his program, though, he spoke on censorship. His
rant was basically to the effect of "its illegal to pray at a graduation,
I mean prayer is illegal, but its ok to sing songs about killing cops." He
continued this rant for several minutes before I got bored and changed the
station. 

Nice logic, Rush. Of course prayer is not illegal, it just cant be government
funded. Im sure that few jurisdictions would allow "Cop Killer" to be sung
at their graduation ceremonies either. Such ridiculous, inflammatory non-
logic places rush one level below Paul Harvey in my book.


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From: lush@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.misc
Subject: Re: Sarajevo: No new bullet holes
Date: 25 Jul 92 15:28:06 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul21.171342.4147@risky.ecs.umass.edu> curcija@medr0.ecs.umass.edu (Dragan Curcija) writes:
>
>ago, gave a figure of about 150,000 artillery pieces fell on Sarajevo and
>its suburbs.  The same journalist calculated more than 4,700 bombs, rockets,
>etc. every single day.  That was more than a month ago, I would say that by
>now that number is above 300,000.  What is the demage to the city of the size
>
>Pozdrav,
>Dragan
>

That seems like an awful lot of weaponry.  Who is supplying
all this?  How is it getting in?  

Greg
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From: eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic,alt.c
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:32:51 GMT
Reply-To: eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41

In article <mL1koB8w165w@coriolis.UUCP> mitch@coriolis.UUCP (Mitch) writes:
>   arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>
>   > Thank you for pointing out the obvious missing word.  Israel received
>   > $5.5 billion last year out of a total foreign aid budget of $13.5 billion.
>   > 
>   > The only reason the total budget is $13.5 billion is because in order to
>   > get Eqypt to Camp David we had to give them $1.5 billion and in order to 
>   > get Israel to come, we had to guarnatee that Israel would always get more.
>   > 
>   > I am not sure which is the stupider way of getting peace, starting wars
>   > or giving them money but sooner or later, we might notice the lack of
>   > peace in our own country.
>   > 
>
>   Of course, Egypt gets about $3 billion per year from the US, and got a 
>   $6 billion bonus last year for not objecting to the Gulf War, but that's 
>   probably just because they're puppets of the Zionist Conspiracy, right?

If you read the Camp David accords, you will find out that very little
of what they call for has actually happened.  In addition to the
actual peace between Israel and Egypt, the Camp David agreement calls
for a transitional Palestinian administration of the West Bank and
Gaza.  The transitional period was to have lasted no more than five
years, then full autonomy was to take place, pending Israeli,
Egyptian, and Jordanian approval.

Somehow, I think that the US was cheated on this deal.  We paid for a
Palestinian state, and we didn't get one.  We ought to ask for our
money back.

--
=Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
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From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Top 10 Under-reported Stories of '91 released by Project Censored
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:21:26 EDT

In article <23JUL199212363943@arecibo.aero.org> terwill@arecibo.aero.org writes:

>>And China---a major omission from this list.  Bush's brother has
>>invested a great deal of money in a hotel (for foreigners, of course)
>>in Beijing.  In other words: the Bush family has, for several years,
>>had a major financial stake in China having good relations with the
>>United States and Europe.
>> 
>>Think about that fact the next time you wonder why Bush was so eager
>>to cozy up to the Chinese leaders even after Tiananman Square.
>
>..as someone who will really enjoy voting against Bush and his running mate
>(although the alternate is poor on an equal basis but for different units of
>measurement) I still feel your logic here is quite flawed and not rationally
>thought out, although I suspect this is far from the first time this is true. I
>believe Bush, rare that it may be, is choosing the lesser of two evils on
>China. The "easy" decision is to cut off all relations, send China back to
>being an isolated nation with a very bright population and an irrational fear
>of all outsiders and creating a sleeping dragon to deal with later. Bush, for
>whatever reason, even the one you and your supermarket tabloid mind have
>expressed, has taken the heated path on this one and kept some light shinning
>through a bamboo curtain. It is similar to a social worker or parole officer
>intervening with a cop for the good of the individuals family. 
>
>Bush is bad for the country but he has balls to take this position and he is
>not the root of all evil. Sorry, but half-truths like yours just draw
>attention away from the valid issues people should consider.


You speak as though Bush's policy with respect to China is founded in a
consistent philopshical position held by Bush with respect to foreign policy.

It is not.

Rather, the positon espoused by Bush wrt China is entirely ad hoc, which is
evidenced by his arbitrary decisions to take the opposite approach with other
countries.


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
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From: warren@itexjct.jct.ac.il (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Organization: ITEX, Jerusalem, Israel
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:56:08 GMT
Followup-To: misc.headlines

I've ftp'd the book of Psalms...
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From: analyst@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:52:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


Rob says:
  > Carl, do you have this SC decision banning prayer on FTP?         

Given the flakiness of some phone lines, I pray on FTP all the time. The
SC must have better phone lines than I do.

-- 
David Sternlight        David Sternlight Inc.        email:analyst@netcom.COM
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