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From: cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (Cornell Kinderknecht)
Subject: Re: miniature greyhounds
Reply-To: cornell@syl.dl.nec.com
Organization: NEC USA, Corporate Network Administration Division (Dallas, TX)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:57:32 GMT

rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Robin, Girl Wonder) writes:

>At lunchtime today I was walking across campus when I saw the neatest dog!
>A crowd of people had gathered to watch this tiny little dog, running 
>FAST FAST FAST around the lawn.  The dog was a miniature greyhound.  He was
>so neat looking!  The owner told me his breed, but I didn't get a chance
>to ask her any more questions.  Can someone tell me about this breed?  Are
>they rare?  I have never seen a discussion of them here before.  Do they
>race these dogs like they race the big ones?  If so, is ther a rescue
>organization for them?  I'd love to have one of these dogs!

Robin,

As several people have mentioned, you probably saw an Italian greyhound
or a whippet.  Neither are rare breeds but for whatever reason, you
don't see many around as pets.  There are many breeders around the
US and you can probably contact the AKC for a breeder in your area.
I on rare occasion see a Italian greyhounds in pet stores.  Whippets
are raced.  Italian greyhounds are generally not raced but there are
a few miniature tracks that will race them as an exposition.

As far as pets, I've had experience with both.  I had the honor
several times to babysit a whippet that belonged to a friend of mine
and at this moment, I have my Italian greyhound curled up in a ball
asleep in my lap.  Both are pretty quiet pets but are also pretty
good at warning of strange noises or strangers.  They are very easy
to train and are good at learning commands.  As with all greyhounds,
they are very gentle dogs.  They do love a good chase.  I recommend
to anyone to have any of the greyhounds as a pet.  They are very
loyal.

When I walk or run my IG, I generally get a few spectators.  I get
lots of questions about what she is or if she's really full grown.
Most people adore her but there are a few who just think she's too
strange looking.  If those few people once experienced the little dog
curled with her head on your shoulder they'd know what they're
missing.  :-)  So there!

--- Cornell
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls)
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:19:14 GMT

In article <9SEP92.17193198@wums.wustl.edu> trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu writes:
>In a previous article, hobright@src.honeywell.com (Lesa Hobright Turner) wrote:
>> 
>>>>for all of you out there with healthy pets....take alot of pictures.
>> 
>>I'm overly guilty of taking pictures of my Keeshond.
>
>	OH Has anyone out there had a portrait taken with their dog?  I
>don't mean the Santa and doggie picture but a real studio-serious picture.
>A friend of mine did once-I thought it was sorta weird at the time but I'm
>considering it for our first professional portrait.

I got a free 8 x 10 offer once from a chain studio.  I decided to have
a picture taken for my mom for Christmas (she loves that kind of stuff).
I asked them if I could have it taken with my dog, and they said "No."
Evidently a photographer in the chain had been bitten when they did
allow pics of dogs to be taken and based on that one incident, they had
stopped all pet pictures.  I'd like to hire someone to come to my house
and take our pictures.  I've always wanted to send out Christmas
postcards with the kids' picture with Santa Claus. :-)

I have some wonderful 8 x 10's of Kelsey that I've taken (brag, brag :)

Robbin
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From: jdk@cs.brown.edu (Jennet Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Shar-Pei questions (HELP)
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:03:56 GMT

We have been given a three-year-old fixed female shar-pei.
she has a brownish coat and a nice temper, but I understand
she has some allergies.  If anyone has any knowledge of these
dogs and their probs, I would very much appreciate hearing from
you asap as we have the dog on a trial basis.  Her name is Cheng-Li,
she has been obedience trained and is very sweet, but I really
need to know more about what we are getting into. I know these
dogs are kind of reserved and don't usually get along with other
dogs, and that's fine.  What I am worried about is HUGE vet
bills in the future.

It would be great if you could send mail to jdk@cs.brown.edu.

Thanks!
From: terry@eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Cuddling (was Re: miniature greyhounds)
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:02:22 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
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cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (Cornell Kinderknecht) writes:
>Most people adore her but there are a few who just think she's too
>strange looking.  If those few people once experienced the little dog
>curled with her head on your shoulder they'd know what they're
>missing.  :-)  So there!

Some of us prefer to have this 100 lb Rotweiler who still thinks of
himself as a lap dog curled up in our lap with that block of a head on
our shoulder.  You people with itty-bitty dogs just don't know what
you are missing.  ;-) ;-)  Sorry.  I could not resist.  

I do get lots of strange stares as I sit on my front step with my
Rottweiler doing his best imitation of a lap dog.  
--
Terry Hull  -  terry@eece.ksu.edu
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Kansas State University
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From: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Person in flux)
Subject: Re: Dogs and Jogging
Reply-To: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:44:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.231448.3677@newshost.lanl.gov>, srlee@beta.lanl.gov 
(Stephen R Lee) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.131115.26377@fns-nc1.fns.com> vib@fns-nc1.fns.com 
(Victor Bur) writes:

>[stuff deleted]

>>My opinion: if you are experienced jogger/runner, NO dog is suitable for
>>you.  By "design", canines can deliver high speed for a short distance
>>(during the pray chaise, for example), but they are not built for a long,
>>steady running.  If you want to do that, watch for the damage you may
>>inflict on dog's hips, and also have an emergency kit ready for injuries
>>and/or overheating.

>I would not say that NO dog is designed for running.  Many dogs lope for
>many miles just fine.  You may have to adjust your normal jogging stride so 
>that they can "lope", but it is certainly doable (with some breeds).  Distance 
>mushing dogs (like those in the Iditarod) can lope for hundreds of miles (note
>that lopping and running are not the same).

I agree with everyone's suggestion that joggers wait until their dogs are at
least a year old before bringing them along on runs.  Regarding the above
comments, I want to emphasize that my experience supports them.  My Lab keeps
up just fine with me at my not-slow pace (7.5 minute miles) for about 2 miles,
but then seems to need to slow down to a dog trot which for me is just too slow
and aggravating.  So, my compromise is to run with him for a 2-mile loop in the
mornings, drop him off at home, do another 2-4 miles alone, and then take him
out in the evenings for a 1-2 mile walk. 

Katie
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From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: HD Warning (A Re: to list posted)
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:30:32 GMT

Thanks to Dennis for his posting this list of info that he received from
OFA....

I feel that there should be a note of caution added to this list.  Remember
that
these percentages are based on X-rays that are *submitted* to the OFA.  Not

all breeders have hip (and/or elbow) X-rays taken, let alone take the extra

step to send them in them to the OFA.  

There are breeders who argue that the OFA is an unfair, money-making,
biased system........some of these arguments may have some basis of 
truth but the fact remains that IT'S THE ONLY SYSTEM WE'VE GOT !!!

There are also breeders that will say that they had X-rays taken and
they "looked O.K. to them"......unless they have had special training in
veterinary orthopedics they have no way to determine whether a dogs
X-rays would or wouldn't pass according to OFA.

If you are looking at buying a puppy of a breed that has any incidence
of HD, discuss this with all of the prospective breeders that you talk
to....if you hear "well my line doesn't have any HD" , "I don't believe
in OFA",  "his/her hips are O.K., he/she's a champion" , or anything 
else that sounds "fishy".....go on to another breeder (preferably one
who X-rays and OFAs).

I post this warning because I believe that the incidence of HD in my
breed (Australian Cattle Dog) is much higher than the 20.9% that
Dennis posted !!!    As I'm sure is true in all breeds, there are the 
"better lines" that through  generations of X-rays and OFA certification
and careful breeding, have minimized the incidence of  Hip Dysplasia.
Unfortunately, there are also the lines that have not been X-rayed
for generations and that do produce a *high* percentage of Dysplastic
dogs.  

Just my $.02 on the subject..................as is the message of most
of my "soapbox posts":    BE AN EDUCATED CONSUMER  !!    Especially
when it comes to chosing what will become a 4-legged member of your
own family !!!!

Kathy
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Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"
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From: yzarn@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: best age to bread a female husky
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:53:54 GMT
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research, La Habra, CA.


A friend of mine as a 6 month old female husky. I have a 3-4 year old male
husky.
We were kicking the idea of breading them.
This may be a FAQ, but should we skip the first time when the female
will go in heat or what?
What would be best?

Thank you.
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From: posie@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (donald.e.church)
Subject: Looking for Border Collie Puppy
Keywords: Border Collie wanted
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: nj
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:10:26 GMT

I am positng this for a friend who is looking for a
Border Collie Puppy bitch to share her newly purchased
home!

If anyone knows of or has Border Pups for sale please
E-mail to me and I will forward.

Thanks a bunch

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From: primeaux@wham-o.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Corn Chip Odor
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:24:44 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: primeaux@wham-o.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
NNTP-Posting-Host: wham-o.cs.utk.edu

Someone posted a long time ago (about a year or so, I guess) about the 
causes of (and, hopefully, the solutionsi for) a dog who smells like 
corn chips.  As I remember, it had to do something with a certain type
of fungus.  Our older dalmatian now has the affliction and, while I can 
certainly think of worst odors, she has become *just* a little overpowering
(imagine living in a Frito (tm) *factory*). 

A repost or a new post about this problem would be very welcomed.  I thank
you, my wife thanks you, my daughter thanks you and the EPA thanks you.

-- David
primeaux@cs.utk.edu
 

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From: spetter@ultra.com (Scott Spetter)
Subject: Re: Wheezing Dog
Reply-To: spetter@ultra.com (Scott Spetter)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 06:27:06 GMT


My Pomeranian also does it - most often when she is excited and very happy.
Happens almost every time I award her with a little treat when she has
done her business on the newspaper, and when I get out the leash to take
her for a walk.  Funny thing is that as we head down the stairs from my
apartment, there are ducks close by.  She sounds just like them, as she
joyfully gets ready for a walk.
 
It always stops within about 10 seconds ... so I just let her catch her
breath before we take off.

Cheers,
 
Scott

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From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Diamond Dog Food
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:36:00 GMT
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525

TO: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu


DM>You know, there is the cheap Diamond 40 or 50# for under $20 and
DM>then there is the premium Diamond which is more expensive by
DM>50%.  I personally wouldn't feed Diamond to ANY dog...but that
DM>is a personal opinion.

I fed Diamond for a very short period of time. I was having a weight
problem with one of my dogs. The results were that the dog did put on
the weight it needed, however the dog started getting blisters around
its mouth, it had extremly bad breath,& god awful smelling stools. If
you take a bowl of this food and soak it in hot water, let it sit over
night and then stick your finger in it, the food is still hot. I
personally would not feed this food again.

Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Black GSDs
Date: 13 Sep 92 06:05:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: nunn@sura.net

DN>All right!  My curiosity has gotten the better of my (or my ignorance
DN>has).  I seem to be the only one who doesn't know what GSD *stands* for!
DN>Great Stupid Dane?  German Shepherd Dog?

DN>Please, somebody, put me out of my misery!

Deborah, GSD stands for German Shepard Dog. There are alot of us on this
net that show dogs and we tend to abriviate the names. GSP stand for
German Shorthaired Pointer, Newf, Newfoundland; Sammy, Samoyed; Golden,
Golden retriever; Lab, Labrador Retriever. Some of them are very easy to
figure out and others aren't. Never ever feel stupid because we
sometimes talk in "code".<G>

Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Black GSDs (Defending Myself AGAIN!)
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:43:35 GMT
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio

In article <BuDM7A.8p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf) writes:
>
>Before you all go roasting me some more over your open flames
>get this through all your THICK heads:
>
>
>WE NEVER HAD ANY PLANS TO BREED THIS DOG!!!!!
>
>I merely wanted to know what effects coat color had
>on breeding fees....NOTHING ELSE!!!!
>
>       I think we know you never had planned to breed your new dog. You
mentioned that you were going to have him neutered. Do you really think that
we are so "thick-headed" that we believe that neutered dogs can sire offspring?
	Kay, don't worry about "us" (namely me and just a few others). Just get
a good nights sleep and enjoy your new puppy. I'm sorry if you felt flamed. I
think "we" were just concerned that the breeder was trying to make a fast sale.
I always had the impression that you were just curious, I was only concerned
about the breeder's comment. Wanna be friends again?

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From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: GSD size, was Re: Diamond Dog Food
Date: 13 Sep 92 06:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: bws20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com

BWS>In article: <BuBox1.CLM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

BWS>Kay asks about a particular brand of dog food and mentions her breeder's
BWS>dogs:
BWS>> the high fat content would be bad for him? They've got BIG
BWS>>  muscular dogs...the sire was 140 lbs with a HUGE chest...
BWS>> like over a foot, easily...no fat on him! I'm going to talk

BWS>DOes anyone have a copy of the GSD standard handy?  140 lbs seems
BWS>extraordinarily large for a GSD.  I wonder what the hips are like?
BWS>Just curious

Just happen to have a copy handy. Height for dogs is 24 to 26, 22 to 24
for bitches. They do not have a weight listed in the Std. however, IMHO
a dog with the correct size could not handle the weight that was
mentioned. I would think the normal range would be 60 to 75 lbs max.
GSD are a large breed, not giant like a Mastiff or Newf.
Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: Stacey Curtis <sec@csc.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Irregular seasons
Organization: University Of Canberra
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:19:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.173716.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> ,
hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>Since questions about when to breed have arisen on the newsgroup, I
thought I'd
>throw out my own question.  I've been waiting on a pick female from an
Irish
>setter litter -- the breeder is in Southern California (I'm in
Kentucky), she
>bred my 11 year old champion Irish, and the pedigree on this litter looks
>outstanding.
>
>The problem is that the prospective mother of the litter hasn't gone
into heat
>yet!  I'm not sure how old she is (2?), tho I know she's a mature dog. 
This
>would be her second season.  She was supposed to go into heat in June
and is
>fine physically.  Pat (the breeder) is confident that this dog will come
into
>season -- it's just that it's only here 2nd season, so it's kind of
>unpredictable.
>
>Does that sound right?

It can be right.

Our bitch will only come into season if it is really inconvenient for us
for her to do so at that time, ie our regular boarding kennels are full
and we've got nowhere for our spare dog (who is spayed, but annoys the
buggery out of our stud dog).  Bitches, like women, are all different in
their cycles and since this will be the bitches 2nd season then you don't
even know what that cycle could be yet.  If she's healthy, it'll come. 
If you're still worried  consult a more experience Irish Setter Breeder
or a vet.

Our bitch comes into season every 8 months, our friends bitch comes in
every 3 months.  There is nothing wrong with that.

Cheers

Stacey, Kodi (the wonder dog), Mali (super bitch) and Pernod (the
scavenger).
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From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Akitas
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:59:25 GMT


I can't use this as a .signature file (the WELL is enforcing 4-line .sigs
only) but I thought the Akita fanciers would enjoy a little chuckle.

Kathleen Creighton
casey@well.sf.ca.us
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From: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Preservatives in Dogfood
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:52:38 GMT
Reply-To: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Distribution: na
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Annapolis, MD

My roommate has a thing about giving her dog anything with preservatives
in it.  My question is, are preservatives really bad for dogs?  I give
my dog whatever she will eat, but my roommate gives her dog only food
without preservatives in it.  I don't notice any bad effects no matter
what I feed my dog.  Her dog is always chewing her skin (aka loosing
hair).

The reason I am bringing this up is that I bought Purina Pro Plan and
she refused to let her dog eat it and am wondering if she is over protective
or am I to nonchalant about preservatives?

Leila


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From: mcfadden@bellman.lanl.gov (Russell McFadden)
Subject: Re: best age to bread a female husky
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Reply-To: mcfadden@bellman.lanl.gov
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:59:38 GMT
X-Posted-From: nimue.lanl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article 6746@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com, yzarn@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille) writes:
>
>A friend of mine as a 6 month old female husky. I have a 3-4 year old male
>husky.
>We were kicking the idea of breading them.
>This may be a FAQ, but should we skip the first time when the female
>will go in heat or what?
>What would be best?
>
>Thank you.
>-- 
>  Philip Yzarn de Louraille                 Internet: yzarn@chevron.com
>  Research Support Division                 Unix & Open Systems
>  Chevron Information & Technology Co.      Tel: (310) 694-9232
>  P.O. Box 446, La Habra, CA 90633-0446     Fax: (310) 694-7709



If all you wre doing was "kicking around" the idea of breeding them, then
may I strongly urge you to FORGET the idea completely! This isn't something
that you just sorta do because it might be good for some jollies.

And yes, you should skip the first season and every season that occurs before
the bitch is fully mature - both mentally and physically. That means with
a dog like this you should wait until she is at least 18 to 24 months old.

Russell L. McFadden
mcfadden@nimue.lanl.gov

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From: wmporter@jetson.uh.edu (William M. Porter)
Subject: How can I deodorize my pup?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:59:00 GMT

[Readers of rec.pets, forgive me: I posted this msg there too, by mistake.]

Our four-month-old Scottish Terrier pup has a pretty "doggy" smell. It's not
exactly repulsive, but it's not charming either. (To me it smells like stale
popcorn, but my wife thinks I'm nuts.) It seems to come from his breath, which
isn't a bouquet of roses either.

I wash him at least once a week, using a very gentle oatmeal based shampoo that
my vet recommended. Unfortunately it has no perfumes in it, so it doesn't
really help the aroma. And of course I don't shampoo his mouth, so if that's
really the source of the problem, I'm nto doing anything about it. 

Anybody have any suggestions, or should I just get used to it? Perhaps I should
confess that until we bought Henry, we had always been cat-people. Fred, our
cat, has no odor whatsoever. (This is one of the main things in his favor.)

William Porter 
Internet: wmporter@jetson.uh.edu
Classical Languages: University of Houston