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From: D. "Maverick" Miller <dmmiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: unix on PC? Where can I get it?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:55:18 GMT

In article <9207240245.AA07845@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> you write:
>Hi!
>      I think this has been said before...if it is a FAQ forgive me...
>I am looking for *nix for the PC (pref IBM/clone)
                  ^^^^
             opps this is most wrong...
             I think this should be
               Un*x? 
       (I still could be wrong...correct me please)

>Any ideas where to get a well documented source?
>
>     If this is a FAQ email me....If it is not...please post the answer...
>
>Thanks,
>
>"Maverick" Miller
>Ohio State University, College of Agriculture
>E-mail: miller.795@osu.edu(.us)
>My words are my own(nobody else would claim them)
>
>Note: well documented means I am not a great Unix programer..I need dumb dumb
>      instructions.... "Maverick"


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From: stokesj@gordon-emh1.army.mil ( SFC John Stokes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Whois/What is Archie
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:10:58 GMT

>I did an archie search for the subject list recently, and the results
>yielded versions that were all either *very* or relatively old.  Can
>someone tell me where the most current version of the doc is usually kept?
>Thanx!!

I keep seeing references like this to "Archie".  It looks like Archie is
a host that maintains some type of master index to most anonymous ftp
host and the programs available on each.  Is this true?  I have tried
many wildcard searches of the whois database at the NIC with no luck.
How do I reach Archie?  What is the full host name and what is it's IP
address?
                                              ______
                                                /    
                                               / __  /_  __
                                           ___/ /_/ / / / /  Stokes
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley)
Subject: Re: Vi Question
Organization: Unix in NYC
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:33:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.122045.2800@cbfsb.cb.att.com> nll@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (neal.l.leitner) writes:
>I recall on Unix Sys V running on an Amdahl, when you were in vi and
>did a search that wrapped around, there was a message displayed on the
>bottom of the screen telling you that the Search Wrapped Around.
>
>Currently, I am running Unix Sys V rel 3.2.3 and 4.0, and this feature
>does not seem to be available or turned on.  Does anyone know how to
>enable this feature???


Either
	:set wrapscan 
	:set ws
or
	:set nowrapscan
	:set nows
as you prefer.

This is usually on by default. Try
	:set all
and see.
-- 
Jean-Pierre Radley   Unix in NYC   jpr@jpr.com   jpradley!jpr   CIS: 72160,1341
From: may@Apple.COM (Patrick May)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Finding/Setting machine address
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:23:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Hi,

     A friend of mine has a security program he needs to move from
one Sun box to another.  This program is used by several other machines
on the internal network.  The person who set up the programs on the
other machines hard-coded the address of the Sun in his code.

     I'm trying to help this guy both determine the current internet
address of the target machine and change it to the address of the
machine that currrently has the security program running.  The
address of the source machine is in its /etc/hosts file.  /etc/hosts
on the target machine contains only the line "127.0.0.1 localhost".

     Yes, I'm a programmer, not a system administrator.

Thanks,

Patrick May
may@apple.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              "A contract programmer is always intense."
From: jon_care@hicom.lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: help with setting up a unix system
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:48:20 GMT
Reply-To: jon_care@hicom.lut.ac.uk
Organization: Hicom Sevices

In article <9207212133.AA06935@fsa.enel.ucalgary.ca>, barker@enel.ucalgary.ca (Scott Barker) writes:
>When I said that I wanted to be able to run openwindows, I meant the
>equivalent of openwindows on the PC. ie. whatever Xwindows is called on the
>PC.
>
>Just thought I would mention that to clear any ambiguities up.

Try XVision, from VisionWare. They specialise in X-for-PC products.
>
>-- 
>Thank you for your attention.
No problem :)
>==============================================================================
>Scott Barker
>barker@enel.ucalgary.ca
>
>"Remember, wherever you go, there you are."
>   - Peter Weller, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension!
Jon Care.

Danger: .sig under construction - wear a hard hat.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc
From: skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok)
Subject: proper mode for /tmp?
Keywords: chmod /tmp
Organization: Inst. f. Thermodynamik u. Waermetechnik (ITW), U. of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:52:24 GMT


Hi all you UN*X gurus out there!

I recently deleted my entire /tmp-directory on a SUN IPX. (faulty
crontab entry). 
How do I set the the proper mode for that directory? What do the entries 
in the output of ls -l mean?
More specifically: what number goes here (v)?
				    chmod ?777 /tmp
and what are these:  v     v ?
                  drwsrwxrwt ... /tmp

Any help appreciated!
-- 
*************************************************
*	Those stupid, horse-brained masses! 	*
*			OPUS (of meadow fame)	*
*******************************************HSK***
From: sundar@fiber-one.ai.mit.edu (Sundar Narasimhan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: fast recompilation / question on make/makedepend
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:55:08 GMT
Reply-To: sundar@ai.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

makedepend creates a list of .h files that your .c or .C files depend
upon. This is useful most of the time.

Some of the time, I change a .h file that is included by a number
of my systems. I'd like to find out all the libraries (.c or .C files 
in libraries) and programs that use this .h file. (Sort of like
what the who-calls database does in Lisp). I know I can
cd to each one of these libraries/program directories and type make
(in fact, this is what I do currently). However, it seems there
should be a simpler way, no?

Let's make the problem even simpler. Let's say you have
	./liba/foo.C -->includes ../public/x.h
	./libb/bar.C -->includes ../public/x.h
	./public/x.h
I want to have a makefile entry in ./public that will automatically
cd to directories ../liba and ../libb and recursively invoke
make. Is there a way to automate what goes in this entry?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Subject: setenv question
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:59:28 GMT

Hellow,

I'm a new beginer at unix. I was trying to do a  setenv FONTPATH ..long list
of directories>, and I'm having problems.

  Because I couldnnt fit the list into one line, I tried to break i up:

setenv FP1  '...../.../:/...../.../:.../.../more stuff'
setenv FP2 '$FP1:/..../.../:/.../..'
setenv FP3 '$FP2:/..../.../:/..../..../'
setenv FONTPATH $FP3

what I get is the $FPn dont get translated.  Also if I leave out the ' ', I get
errors; if i try to enclose the stuff in ( ) like in set path =(list of directories), it complains about the "("; if I try ('diretories list') it doesn't
complain about the "(", but it doesnt work.

 just how do a setenv VARIABLE to a long list of ":" separated directories,
jus

anyway???

thanks for answering,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
From: lange@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Alex Lange)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Removing control codes, underscores
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:03:32 GMT
Reply-To: lange@lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Moving Finger Writes, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

: kuo_wy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu writes:
: 
: > Hi.  I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem.
: > I'd like to be able to print a man file or ftp it do a Macintosh for
: > viewing.
: > Suppose I man command > temp
: > Then, lpr temp.
: > What I receive on the printout is, e.g.:
: > KKKKSSSSHHHH SSSSiiiilllliiiiccccoooonnnn
: > GGGGrrrraaaapppphhhhiiiiccccssss
: 
: [ etc. ]
: 
: > So, my question is how do I remove the repeated characters, the underscores
: > and the control codes?

Sorry if someone already posted this answer: look for a command
called "col" (did you say what kind of UNIX you're using?).
Removing backspace/character combinations is easy:

   man col | col -b > out

Alex Lange
From: ccyang@oregon.uoregon.edu (Chun-Ching Yang)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: How to increase transfer speed in Kermit
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:28:00 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I just bought a 14,400 Modem. However, after trying to download the data from
the VAX in the university, I found the download speed from the mainframe to my
Mac was slow. The transfering speed was about 560 byts in each  TWO seconds. If
the high speed modem worked fine, then the transfer speed should be about
1,440  in ONE second. (Is that right?)
I have check the VAX and the modem there is 14,400. I don't expect that the
speed can  reach 1440 in a second but the speed I got was so slow. How come?

Can anyone help me solve this problem?


                                                        Yang
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org (T. Mike Howeth)
Subject: Re: need "ls"-like output w/full path
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:42:46 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In articles all over the place, lots of people write:

| How about doing it this way...

What does everyone have against:
	find <dir> -print -path <dir> -only | sed 1d

-- 
tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org                                               __
"Whoever said 'getting there is half the fun'                           \/
    has never ridden in a class 8 probe!"
Xref: sparky comp.unix.questions:9407 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:10827
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.msdoscomp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Unix on a PC.
From: repayne@mothra.cns.syr.edu (Rob Payne)
Date: 20 Jul 92 19:58:15 GMT
Reply-To: repayne@mailbox.syr.edu
Followup-To: comp.unix.msdos
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Keywords: msdos

I am sorry if this goes to one or more of the wrong places.

I am looking for a version of Unix that will run on a PC (probably
486/50 or so, but it would be nice if it ran on a 386sx for the time
being.)  I was wondering what versions are out there and what comes
with each?  If you have used some of these versions, one or more, and
have a good idea of what they will do, please let me know what your
thoughts on this are.  Things that I am looking for specifically:

	Space constraints aren't TOO important but I don't necessarily
want anything that is going to take gig's to set up.
	Support for X-windows would be very nice.  (my system will
have SVGA so I guess SVGA-X support would be nice.)
	What does anyone know of GNU portage, do GNU products port to
the DOS versions of UNIX?  This would be especially nice.

	Anything else that you can think of, let me know. (things I
could check into, products that I should avoid, etc.)

			  Thanks in advance.

				 -Rob
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen)
Subject: Re: question on "&"
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 12:29:36 GMT

Shu-Chen Eclipse writes:
>I'm a crass beginnier in unix: I know "&" means something like start a 
>process running in the background, I guess, something like vms's "run/detached";while browsing through some scripts, I saw a line something like
>(/../.../some file name &)&.
>
>  what does the 2 "&" mean?
>thanx in advance,

Like some of us have already stated in a previous message from you,
reading the excelent fine manual (RTEFM) for your shell will reveil
it's secret in large.

If you do not know what kind of shell you are using, try the following:

finger sue

wich gonna give you (aproximate):

Login name: sue       			In real life: Shu-Chen Eclipse
Directory: /u1162/sue               	Shell: /bin/csh
Not logged in.
No Plan.

[A lot of 'sue' deleted]

If you take a closer look at the entry witch say: Shell: /bin/csh
you can read out that you are using a shell called 'csh' (C-shell).
To know more about this shell, you must type

man csh

(Remeber to hit the Carriage Return, or ENTER-key).

What YOU should to is the following (OR the 12 step program to
learn some UNIX on your own :-)

   1. Go out of the lab-building into the Big Blue Room.
   2. Go to your univeristy's student help desk or find another student.
   3. Get them to help you locate the CS-library (Computer Science).
   4. Go out on a exciting expedition to the library mentioned, this CAN
      be exciting, just take a look at the birds in the sky, the green 
      gras, the 1968 Pontiac sailing in front of you.
   5. Go up to a desk named: "Help", "Enquiries", "Book loans", whatever.
      Or, find a librarian.
   6. Ask _POLITELY_ if they can help you find a _BEGINER_ book on the
      UNIX Time Sharing System. (OR simply UNIX).
   7. After a while they will hand you some (good) beginer books on UNIX.
   8. Go home.
   9. Make yourself a nice cup of tea.
  10. Open one of the books. The smallest one is recomended.
  11. READ.
  12. Go To Sleep. 

Hope this helps.

\Ruben.


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  Maintaining the Largest  VI/EX-STUFF Archive in the WORLD (alf.uib.no) and
the Comp.Editors FAQ file. If you have information about editing, new editors,
  please get in touch with me. This does not apply to EMACS type of editors.
From: barker@enel.ucalgary.ca (Scott Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: help with setting up a unix system
Date: 21 Jul 1992 16:34:07 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

When I said that I wanted to be able to run openwindows, I meant the
equivalent of openwindows on the PC. ie. whatever Xwindows is called on the
PC.

Just thought I would mention that to clear any ambiguities up.

-- 
Thank you for your attention.
==============================================================================
Scott Barker
barker@enel.ucalgary.ca

"Remember, wherever you go, there you are."
   - Peter Weller, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension!
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Making ``.plan'' EXECUTE a Program ???
Originator: tchrist@pixel.convex.com
Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Organization: CONVEX Realtime Development, Colorado Springs, CO
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:37:47 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

From the keyboard of evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans):
:No this is braindead.
:Why?
:this means that user id -2 must have read access to the file.
:this means that the users dir must be searchable by anyone.

yeah, so?  sure is a lot cleaner than making a special command
to read protected files (like .plans) -- safer, too.  

:The point is that fingerd (running as root) should be able to read
:.plan, it should however check that it is not a link to a file
:the user shouldn't be reading.

witness the stack of contortions you're going through for protection.
just let unix do this for you with open perms.

:Also fork is an expensive operation, a stat(2) call is much simpler.

you're a server, so you're forking anyway.

and unless you open the file first and fstat the descriptor, somebody
can play games with you when you're not looking.

--tom
-- 
    Tom Christiansen      tchrist@convex.com      convex!tchrist
I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence.  There's
a knob called "brightness", but it doesn't work.
                -- Gallagher
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: bjg28027@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Skydive!)
Subject: How to find out what groups I belong to
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:03:37 GMT

Hello,

How can I find out what groups I belong to?  Moreover, can I find out who
are the members of a certain group (or if a person belongs to a certain group)?

Thanks.

- Brian

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.internals,comp.unix.admin
From: spt@sgtech.UUCP (Steve Thorn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: ELF file manipulation
Keywords: ELF relocation
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:29:02 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: Star Gate Technologies, Inc, Solon, OH

I'm in need of a utility that absolutely locates an ELF file (from ld) to
a specific address, for use in an embedded '386 system.  I'm doing it
myself, and it's not difficult, but I would have thought someone else
would have gone through this exercise before.  Any pointers?

-steve

Steve Thorn                         spt@sgtech.com
Star Gate Technologies, Inc.        ...!uunet!abvax!sgtech!spt
29300 Aurora Rd, Solon, OH  44139         216-349-1860
From: corrado@abyss.sni-usa.com (Corrado Giacomini)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: shared library  listing ?
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:10:45 GMT
Reply-To: corrado@abyss.sni-usa.com (Corrado Giacomini)
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf Information Systems, Inc. Cambridge, MA


Does anybody know how can I obtain 
the list of the shared library linked by 
an executable ?

-----------------------------------------------------
Corrado Giaconini        corrado@sni-usa
		 giacomin@xdnc1.ico.olivetti.com
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: naras@cda.mrs.umn.edu (B. Narasimhan)
Subject: What exactly is the diff between telnetting and rlogging?
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:15:25 GMT

The subject line says it all. The reason I ask is that upon telnetting and
using vi on a remote machine in an xterm, resizing the window screws up vi.
But rlogging and using vi seems to work fine.

Thanks.

-- 
B. Narasimhan                             naras@cda.mrs.umn.edu
Division of Science and Math.
The University of Minnesota at Morris
Morris, MN 56267
From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: m4(1) availability
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:03:46 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900

1.  Why don't people use m4 more?  Macro expansion, include-ing,
    and so on, for essentially no cost--I use it within an order
    of magnitude as often as awk(1), but I sure don't have the
    impression that others do.  How come?
2.  Is source available anywhere?  I haven't been able to find
    it as part of the gnu distribution, but I'm not sure I'm
    looking in the right place.
3.  How do I find a VMS!m4.exe?
-- 

Cameron Laird
claird@Neosoft.com (claird%Neosoft.com@uunet.uu.net)	+1 713 267 7966
claird@litwin.com (claird%litwin.com@uunet.uu.net)  	+1 713 996 8546
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: gordon@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (John Gordon)
Subject: Re: vi: How to type S and ^Q in ascii file?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:24:12 GMT


	In vi, to enter any control character, first type Control-V, then
the desired control character.  For example, to enter a Control-Y, you
would type: Control-V Control-Y

---
John Gordon                        My incredibly witty saying has been 
gordon@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu         Politically Corrected into oblivion.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: tr@samadams.princeton.edu (Tom Reingold)
Subject: Re: Using sed to convert numbers (interesting)
Organization: Noo Joizy, USA
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:11:40 GMT

Without addressing your questions about sed, why not use a simple
little C program, since scanf or sscanf will do what you want?

#include <stdio.h>

main()
{
        char line[80];
        float f;

        while (gets(line) != NULL) {
                sscanf(line, "%f", &f);
                printf("%f\n", f);
        }
}
--
        Tom Reingold
        tr@samadams.princeton.edu  OR  ...!princeton!samadams!tr
        "Warning: Do not drive with Auto-Shade in place.  Remove
        from windshield before starting ignition."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: A monitor program
From: Rowan_Smith@kcbbs.gen.nz (Rowan Smith)
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:08:42 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Im after a method by which I can monitor the activity on a terminal.

cat < /dev/ttyxx

not quite good enough. I'd like to be able to see every thing which 
goes on on the screen ? Any sugestions ?

Xref: sparky comp.unix.questions:9403 comp.unix.sysv386:12397
From: btwomey@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (william.tw0mey)
Subject: Re: Script for killing mutiple processes?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:24:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.173924.14654@bnr.uk> agc@bnr.ca (Alan Carter) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.135406.10224@ncsu.edu>, odkahn@eos.ncsu.edu (Opher D. Kahn) writes:
>|> with 10-15 child processes that need to be killed.  Is it possible
>|> to somehow pipe the process numbers from 'ps -aux | grep dood' into
>|> a kill command, so that I don't have to kill each one of them
>|> manually???  (dood is the name of the process).
>|> Thanks, 
>
>There is a general magic for this kind of thing. Bear in mind I've got System V
>type ps here, and Korn shell. 
>

>      #!/bin/ksh
>      ps -ef | grep dood | grep -v grep | awk { print $2 } | while read var
>      do
>         echo "THIS IS DEATH, $var"
>         kill $var
>      done | more

A little better:
ps -ef | awk '/awk/ { next }
/dood/ { print $2} ' | xargs kill

The advantage is that you have shorter pipeline to execute, 
as well as understand.  In an unrigorous test, ps|grep|grep|cut 
used more real time and system time than ps|awk on an HP 9000/855.

When killing a process that has children, grandchildren, ...,
I try to kill the youngest children first.
If pids have not cycled back to 0+, pipe the output of awk through
sort -n -r +1 -2, then to xargs.
Handling the case where pids have wrapped, is left as an exercise
to the reader.

Bill Twomey
-- 
bt@violin.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions