From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: SURVEY -- who do you hope wins the U.S. election?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:14:27 GMT

In article <98397@bu.edu> lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
> In article <1992Oct12.220928.20564@news.acns.nwu.edu>  
usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> <(deleted)
> >Shi, Clinton became an enemy that "screw up every thing". This is the  
mentality  
> >of ultra-leftist/rightist people like Shi Chunde, Shannon Yeh, Yue Fei, Qu  
> >Yuan, Mao, Hitler, Saddam Hussein and Joseph Stalin. 
> 
> Well, congratulation to Shi Chunde and Shannon Yeh for sitting on this big
> name list. But I wonder why Yue Fei and Qu Yuan are there also. What is
> Yue Fei's mentality wrong? What is Qu Yuan's mentality wrong? Please give
> me a lecture. Thanks.
> 
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The reason I put Mr. Shi and Mr. Yeh in the name list together with those big  
guy is to encourage them to keep going and someday they might (who knows!) be  
even bigger.

Now, let's talk about Yue Fei and Qu Yuan. First, I'd like to point out that  
the Yue and Qu we mentioned here are very very different from the real-life Yue  
and Qu. In fact, real-life Yue and Qu might be someone as small as Shannon.  
Take Yue for example,  Yue was just a general who was much less important than  
another gereral Han2 Shi4zong1. He was just lucky that his personal drama  
caught the attentions of some story-tellers and they just kept making him  
bigger and bigger while Gerneal Han was a little unlucky.

Another example is Guan1 Yu3 (or Guan1 Gong1) in the Three Kindoms. Mr. Guan  
was also just an ordinary general among others. However, for some misterious  
reasons, he was chosen by some story-tellers and his luck just kept going.  
Finally, he reached almost the same position as our "beloved" Confusius and  
Guan Gong temples were built all over China. Compair to Guan Gong, Lei Feng was  
so unlucky that so far we have not seen a single Lei Feng Temple yet. The only  
architecture that somewhat has some coincident relation with Comrade Lei Feng  
was the Lei Feng Tower in Hangzhou that collapes before Lei was born and made  
Lu Xun very happy.

Ok, now, I have made it clear that I am not talking about real-life Qu and Yue.  
So, for those CSS who happened to be their descendents, I don't mean to  
"attack" you.

As far as I know, the legendary Yue and Qu were naive and simple minded. In  
their minds, there were only black and white, right and wrong. They didn't have  
any concept about millions of different degrees of gray. Therefore, to them,  
there were only good people and bad people. So, in Yue's mind, those who  
supported negotiation with the Nuu Zhen were evils. I hated them. But it seemed  
that he had no idea to kick them out away from the emperor. So he got so  
frustrated, just like Shannon now. Fortunally, Yue was killed before he had a  
chance to become mad like Qu did. For Qu, unluckily, the king did not kill him.  
He was wise enough to foresee that according to Qu's mental status, there was  
great possibility that Qu would turn mad. So, he just forced him to exile. Sure  
enough, soon after Qu was exiled, he collapsed. He cried and screamed along the  
Mi-lo river like a ghost. Soon, he killed himself (advise Shannon not to learn  
from Qu Yuan) by plunging into the river (or, might be killed by some simple  
minded fishmen who could not tolerate his ghost-like screams).

That's all for today.

Carl
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