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From: c.CRepin@ic.ac.UK (Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond, Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Sending Mail to BitNet
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:55:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cscmgb.9210051755.AA03087
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science

>From: zxmkr08@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Cornelius Krasel)
>Subject: Re: Sending Mail to BitNet
>Message-ID: <zxmkr08.718226131@mailserv>
>Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:15:31 GMT
>

>
>I'm a bit confused here. According to my knowledge, bitnet addresses
>are usually in the form name@host, i.e. csuc_bo@almad1. Could somebody
>please enlighten me?
>
>(BTW, to send a mail to name@host, I -- on the Internet -- would send
> the mail to name@host.bitnet which usually works fine for me.)
>
>--Cornelius.
>

In the past few years, BITNET has adopted DNS (Domain Naming System)
naming for its sites. So as a result, a BITNET-only site may have
an Internet-style address, while not being directly connected on
Internet. This makes the job of mailers difficult if routing tables
are not available on-site. From memory I recall that it was proposed
a few years ago to rename adresses from name@host.bitnet to
name@host.bit.net . This idea hasn't gone forward; does anyone know
why ? I can also vaguely remember arguments that name@host.bitnet
or name@earn.host are not strictly recognised addresses, and the
real Bitnet syntax is name@host.
Anyway, in the long term, I guess that most BITNET sites will
convert to DNS naming, just like Internet where the convention
name@host.arpa was exploded into DNS in around 1984.

O.


-- 
Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond, Digital Comms. Section, Elec. Eng. Department
 Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine, London SW7 2BT, UK
       Internet/Bitnet: <ocl@ic.ac.uk> - Janet: <ocl@uk.ac.ic>
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: henders@infonode.ingr.com (Greg Henderson)
Subject: Problem w/ corrupted file(would love to rm it...)
Summary: Problem removing corrupted file
Keywords: rm corrupted file
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:53:18 GMT


I have a corrupted file in /lost+found that I can't seem to get rid of... It
seems that an inode still thinks it is attached to a file that does not exist,
or something like that, and 'fsck' won't clean it up.... See below:

/lost+found # ls -lasi
./#1056: No such file or directory
total 19    3   17 drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root        8192 Aug 12 12:00 ./
    2    2 drwxr-xr-x  21 root     root         592 Sep 30 14:06 ../

/lost+found # rm *
rm: #1056 non-existent

/lost+found # find . -exec rm {} \;
rm: . directory
find: stat() failed: ./#1056: No such file or directory


Anybody got any ideas how I can get rid of it?  

Thanks,

Greg
-- 

Greg Henderson   henders@infonode.ingr.com   ...uunet!ingr!infonode!henders


Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: mjr@ursa.calvin.edu (Matt Ranney)
Subject: Re: AWK or PERL: which is better?
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:28:44 GMT

tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes:

>Several people have suggested or implied
>that perl is more difficult than awk .
>That certainly has not been my experience.
>If you get a perl program,
>it's pretty obvious what is happening,
>and it is very easy to modify if you want to.
>I've found it much simpler than awk.

I agree.  Perl is more powerful, and all the way-cool features can
seem overwhelming at first, but if you are trying to do simple stuff,
it will be simple.

>Admittedly the man entry is pretty horrific.
>I'd suggest ignoring that until it is forced on you.

I'd suggest getting the "Camel Book".  When I got Perl, I looked at
the manpage and kinda got discouraged.  If you at least have some
basic C/Unix knowledge, then "Programming Perl" will tell you all you
need to know.

>I'd like to see a law that no man entry may exceed 1 page.
>Anything more should be put in the documentation.

False call.  We just need another help system for novices.  The
current man system is great for the people that it was intended for.
I couldn't live without it.
--
Matt Ranney -  mjr@uther.calvin.edu
  "You know, I don't think theres a man, woman, or child alive today
   who doesn't enjoy a lovely beverage."  -DL
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: Re: How to uncompress "tar-z" (NOT tar.Z) files?
Keywords: tar tar-z archive uncompress decompress
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:42:34 GMT

djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum) writes:

>Now: can anyone explain why *.tar.Z files wind up on archives with
>*.tar-z names? My OS experience is pretty limited; is it because some
>systems have trouble with filenames that have two dots in them?

If you upload a file with Kermit and don't have  set file name literal
then it makes everything the same case and won't put two periods in
the name.  So the second period becomes a - or x or something.

That's one thing that can cause it.

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com
All music jars when the soul's out of tune.  --  Miguel de Cervantes
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: robinson@crash.cts.com (Alan Robinson)
Subject: BEST UNIX for a 486-d2; BSD? SOURCES?
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: na
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:04:58 PDT
Followup-To: masc0037@rohan.sdsu.edu 
Keywords: SCO, GNU, BSD 

FOR EVERYONE,

	I am looking for reliable BSD Unix for a 486-d2 system.

SCO is popular, and stable; but not BSD.  Is GNU BSD?, is it well

supported?; what other choices are there?  

	What about a communications program under Unix?

What should I make sure I have to have a complete system?

		alan
From: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: global finger
Date: 1 Oct 1992 02:35:05 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

>>Is there a way of fingering everybody at a site?  (ie.  finger*@spool.mu.edu)?
>Pretty close Jason, if the host is reachable you can do `finger @spool.mu.edu'
>(using your example) to see everyone logged in.

Yes, I know but I am looking for a list of all, logged in or not.  Note that if
I finger jhanson@helios.uwsp.edu, I get this:

[helios.uwsp.edu] 
Login name: jhanson   			In real life: Jason Hanson
Directory: /usr2/other/jhanson      	Shell: /bin/sh
Plan:  
To get UWC-Fox Valley into the modem age...


And, I can get this without jhanson being logged in.  Now, can I get the list
of everybody's "finger" even if they aren't logged in?
From: tholome@bangalore.esf.de (Eric Tholome)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: crontab problem
Keywords: crontab sh csh argument
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:27:00 GMT
Reply-To: tholome@bangalore.esf.de (Eric Tholome)
Organization: ESF Headquarters, Berlin, FRG

I have the following problem:

I have a little script (that begins with #! /bin/csh) which uses two arguments.
When I run it by hand (myscript arg1 arg2), it runs perfectly.
When it is in a crontab (30 0 * * * myscript arg1 arg2), it seems that $1 $2
are in fact empty, as if the arguments hadn't been passed to the script.

Now, I kinda remember that using csh for crontab stinks. Is this the reason for
my problem? Is the shell (sh) launched by cron not able to pass the parameters
to my script?

For all that it matters, I'm on a Sun4Sparc running SunOS 4.1.

Can anybody enlighten me?

Thanks a lot,

                                                Eric


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: vic@class.gsfc.nasa.gov (James V. Ryan (Vic))
Subject: Re: Expect
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:01:05 GMT

jawil@hpx11.aid.no (Jan Roger Wilkens) writes:

>Could some kind sole please send me the bin file for expect for the HP Apollo
>700 series??? I've tried for hours to compile it, but with no luck at all...
>Please uuencode it and mail it to me...


A ftp site for all to get it would be soooo much better for everyone.
"iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu" for example.


--James V. Ryan                           vic@class.gsfc.nasa.gov
  Code 530.2, Bldg. 25                    Phone 301-286-4841
  Goddard Space Flight Center             Fax   301-286-4355
  Greenbelt, MD  20771
From: mturok@cvbnet.prime.com (Michael Turok 4-1235 x2628)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: nslookup set-up
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:12:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computervision


Hello, netters:

Got a question for you: how does one set up 'nslookup' to work 
correctly ?
Obviously, I'd like to use 'nslookup' to look up Internet addresses of
archive servers when only the site name is given.

Here's a log of my 'naive' usage of 'nslookup'

mturok/Harley>nslookup
*** Can't find initialize address for server : Timed out
Default Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

> rutgers.edu
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

*** Request to localhost timed-out
>exit
mturok/Harley>


Note: the following line exists in my /etc/hosts file
          127.0.0.1       localhost loghost
      And the 'localhost' is indeed up and running.
      Also I don't have a /etc/resolv.conf file, which should be OK
      according to man page.

What do I do wrong?

Any hints/explanations from you would be greatly appreciated.

-------------
Michael Turok

E-Mail: 	mturok@harley.prime.com
Voice Mail:	(617) 275-1800 x2628
Mail:		ComputerVision MS 4-1, 201 Burlington Rd,
		Bedford, MA 01730
From: ucosmo@mcl.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Need advice for selecting a plotting package
Keywords: plot
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:17:55 GMT

I am looking around for a package that would read a set of points from a data
file and plot them to a graph (preferably in postscript form or to an X window).
The package should handle 2d, but 3d would be nice.  It could be either a 
standalone package or a library for fortran or C.

Is anything like this available on the net?  Can anyone suggest an _inexpensive_
commercial application?

I'd appreciate any help on this matter...

--
     - Boris
(cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu)
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Portable File Systems on M/O Devices
Date: 1 Oct 92 06:09:19 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <BvEFtJ.8Et@netnews.jhuapl.edu> heeres@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Ken Heeres) writes:
| I would like to be able to create/read/write files on a R/W optical device
| on a Sun, SGI, or HP and be able to read/write files on a Sun, SGI, or HP without
| worrying about who created what.  Is this a pipe dream?

Well, you could write your own filesystem, write code on the other
2 system to implement the filesystem of the 3rd, or port something
like one of the proposed WORM filesystems to all 3.

The easiest thing of all is probably to simply use tar, cpio, or
the like to write to the media, although that may require a
bit of fancy footwork to deal with the different partitioning
on the different systems.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: larry@ducktales.med.ge.com (Larry Landwehr)
Subject: Reading large chunks of data in the background
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 18:11:44 GMT

The following message was forwarded to me. Any input from the net is welcome.
 
_____________________________
 
I could use some advice for one aspect of the project we
are working on.
 
I need to read in several VERY large hunks of data (about 5MB each) from
a tape device.  We have plenty of physical RAM and huge swap spaces, so
this should not be an issue.
 
The problem is that I want the reading of the data to occur in
the background, while the main program continues processing user
interactions.  Each array, after its loaded, becomes eligible
for display to the user.
 
I envision an array in the main program that points to the data
areas to be read, along with a "Loaded Flag" that indicates
whether the data has been read in yet or not.  For example:
 
     (CONTROL ARRAY)
     +--------+-------------------+     +--------------------------+
     | Loaded | (unsigned char *) |---->| (hunk of data to be read)|
     |  Flag  | pointer to data   |     +--------------------------+
     +--------+-------------------+     +--------------------------+
     | Loaded | (unsigned char *) |---->| (hunk of data to be read)|
     |  Flag  | pointer to data   |     +--------------------------+
     +--------+-------------------+     +--------------------------+
     | Loaded | (unsigned char *) |---->| (hunk of data to be read)|
     |  Flag  | pointer to data   |     +--------------------------+
     +--------+-------------------+
          .
          .
          .
       (etc.)
 
Since I am not a "fork()" export, I am unclear about ownership
of memory that is malloc()'d, pointers, etc.
 
QUESTION: Should the parent allocate the memory areas to receive the
     hunks of data?  If the child does the malloc(), I assume the
     data goes away when the child exits.
 
QUESTION: Does the child have direct access to the CONTROL ARRAY,
     or does its true address have to passed to the child?
 
QUESTION: Is there a better strategy to accomplish this??  There
     will be many hunks of data, and it is imperative that the
     user be allowed to interact with the first hunk while the
     others are being read.  A background task seems like the
     ideal way, but fork() seems like it carries much baggage
     (lots of code and data reproduced unnecessarily).
 
I would appreciate it if your could pass this on to your local
Unix gurus -- a prompt reply is highly desirable (you know
all too well the deadlines we are running up against!).
From: ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey)
Subject: Re: What does 'daemon' mean?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:04:16 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ben Bailey's Home..Tampa Fl.

As I recall, it was introduced into computer lore during the days when they
were talking in terms of black boxes; the theoriticians didn't yet have a
machine (computer), so they would refer to a black box where a deamon would
recide, and the deamon would always perform the function desired (programmed).

If my memory serves me, this was discussed in the book "The Recursive Universe",
(sorry, the author escapes me), which took the old computer game of life and
used it to present many interesting concepts and theories.  Good reading
and very interesting.....not too heavy either.

Ben
--
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12210 Shady Forest Dr.     ben@bailey.tscs.com
Riverview, Fl. 33569       -- The main thing is to keep the main
813-677-5021                  thing the main thing.  Mainly. 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: walker@superboy.jsc.nasa.gov (Doug Walker)
Subject: Ghostscript & printcap filters
Reply-To: walker@superboy.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Center
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:10:03 GMT

I am trying to install ghostscript as a printcap filter so
my laserjet 3 can print postcript. What should the printcap entry look
like?

This is the current printcap entry for this printer: 

lp:\
	lp=/dev/ttya:br#9600:ms=-tabs,onlcr,-parenb,cs8,ixon,ixoff:

I tried adding 

if=/usr/local/bin/gs:

also

if=/usr/local/bin/gs -:

also I tried the same things as of=...

It seems this should be possible, But I couldent find anything in the
documentation that came with it. 

I am running gs22.

Thanks

Doug


Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: scotte@cdsac.uucp (L. Scott Emmons)
Subject: Re: How to uncompress "tarz" (NOT tar.Z) files?
NntpPostingHost: cdsac
Date: 02 Oct 1992 16:04:07 GMT
Organization: CableData (U.S. Computer Services), Sacramento, CA
Keywords: tar tarz archive uncompress decompress 

In article <1992Oct1.042919.24260@cs.yale.edu> starrdaniel@CS.YALE.EDU (Daniel Starr) writes:
>
>I have acquired booz.tarz from oak.oakland.edu and am at a loss for how
>to convert it into working condition.

All you have to do is rename it to "booz.tar.Z", then uncompress and
and untar, as usual...

Good luck!
 
			   L. Scott Emmons
		      CableData  Research Center
		     csusac.csus.edu!cdsac!scotte
				KC6NFP
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: bhag@etn.ericsson.se (Boerge Haga 2634)
Subject: Temporary /dev/audio shutoff, how?
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AS, Oslo, Norway
Distribution: comp.unix.questions
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:01:17

Is there any way to shut of the audio device on a Sparcstation temporarily
without beeing root?

--
Boerge Haga
Ericsson Telecom AS, Norway
e-mail:bhag@etn.ericsson.se
From: grant@unisys.co.nz (Grant McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How do I send hayes commands (AT commands) to my modem?
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:55:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisys.1992Sep28.215520.19534
Organization: Unisys New Zealand
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

John Ellithorpe (jdell@maggie.mit.edu) wrote:
: On 26 Sep 92 22:57:12 GMT, ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett) said:
: > Nntp-Posting-Host: khonshu.colorado.edu
: 
: > I'm sitting here at my Sun IPC trying to think of how I connect to my
: > modem (which is on ttyb). I'd like to check the settings (specifically
: > the number of rings it waits before autoanswering), and there's this
: > nifty table of commands on the back of the modem which I can use, but
: > how do I send commands to the modem and get the answers back? In the
: > PC world I'd be able to do it through my communications package, but I
: > have no idea what to do on UNIX. Any help?
: > 			Thanks
: > --
: > Edward Hartnett			ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu
: 
: Just like on a PC, you could use kermit.  [...]

True, you could use kermit or if you were looking for standard utilities that
were already available on your system, you could use 'cu' or 'tip'.  These
utilities are loosely affiliated with the UUCP suite which is one of the
packages you can choose when you do a 'suninstall'.

Before you can use cu or tip, you need to edit the Systems and Devices files
(Note initial caps) in the /etc/uucp directory (/usr/lib/uucp on other
systems).  The point of the files is to define a phone number associated 
with a remote system and to define which modem to use to dial the number.

I use the following entry in the Devices file on my Unisys U6000 but you
will need to change the device name at least:

    modem tty301 - 2400 direct \D


I use this entry in the Systems file:

    other Any modem 2400

When I type the command 'cu other', the Systems file is searched for a system
name 'other'.  The matching line specifies that the 'other' system can be 
called at any time of day on the device 'modem' at 2400bps.

The Devices file is then searched for an entry matching 'other'.  This line
specifies the tty to use, the baud rate, the type of dialer (direct) and the
number to dial (\D = direct connect).

Have fun
Grant

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Unix Support Specialist |                   | Phone: (GMT+12)(64 4) 4984558
Unisys New Zealand Ltd  |                   | Fax:           (64 4) 4711953
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: holger@is.morgan.com (Holger Veith)
Subject: awk limits
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:09:54 GMT

I noticed that awk had a limit of around 250 characters, and it also only
had variables $1...$101 when I needed column $103.

I used nawk and then perl.


Holger.


Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: global finger
Originator: tchrist@cvxcs.cs.convex.com
Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Organization: Convex Computer Corporation, Colorado Springs, CO
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 14:11:03 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

From the keyboard of ayman@eecs.umich.edu (Ayman I. Kayssi):
:Actually, you can. At least on a DEC running ultrix 4.2.
:I can do a:
:
:% finger @
:
:or
:
:% finger @@machine.domain
:
:and this lists all the users listed in the /etc/passwd on either the local
:machine or the machine at machine.domain.

Many consider this a bug, and some have fixed it.  But yes, it "works"
on my machine as well.

--tom
-- 
"GUIs normally make it simple to accomplish simple actions and impossible
to accomplish complex actions."   --Doug Gwyn  (22/Jun/91 in comp.unix.wizards)

     Tom Christiansen           tchrist@convex.com      convex!tchrist
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: ACK!!  simple question
Date: 1 Oct 1992 08:25:46 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.think.com

In article <1992Sep30.220417.10526@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good) writes:
>Okay..  I'm new to programing C on Unix... and seem to have 
>stumbled across a problem...

You seem to be new to programming C in general, as your problem is not
Unix-specific.  It's extremely common with new C programmers, though.

>	char           *head;
...
>		sscanf(buf, "%s", head);

You declared a character pointer head, but never assigned it the location
of any storage.  You should either declare a character array, or allocate
the array using malloc().  In your function, the former would be the
simpler way:

	char head[BUFSIZ];
...
	sscanf(buf, "%s", head);

Also, in general, Unix programming questions are better sent to
comp.unix.programmer, and C questions should go to comp.lang.c.
Comp.unix.questions is mainly for questions about using Unix.

And try to use more descriptive subject lines.  Everything in
comp.unix.questions should be a question, so titling your message "simple
question" doesn't mean much.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: pradeep@watson.ibm.com (Pradeep K. Dubey)
Subject: Help needed in locating RCS documentation and source
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 00:34:38 GMT
Reply-To: pradeep@calcutta.watson.ibm.com (Pradeep K. Dubey)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Hello Everyone,
Can someone please help me locate documentation on RCS, both
on its use and installation on an AIX system.
Also, assuming this is available in public domain, can someone
also help me locate its source?
Thanks a lot,
Pradeep
From: bruhn@uxe.wu-wien.ac.at (Peter Bruhn )
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Security: hill
Date: 1 Oct 1992 10:50:31 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: exaib.wu-wien.ac.at

Would you, UNIX people, advise me to use `hill` to encrypt
secret data? Is it save? Is there a way to get around the
key? If yes: how does it look like? Are there better programs
for encryption? How does the algorithm of hill work?

A lot of questions ...

Hope someone can answer a few of them.


Thanks 

Peter
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