HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com (Jack Reed)
Subject: !!! SUMMER RIDING SUIT RAFFLE !!! 
Reply-To: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:16:39 GMT

Announcing the...

           !!! SUMMER RIDING SUIT YOU LOVE TO HATE RAFFLE !!!

Once again, for those of you that missed it the first 50 times, here is a 
description of the SUIT...

...Kushitani, two piece, BLACK cotton/nylon riding suit. Zippers at the wrists
and ankles, velcro at the waist and neck. It will fit riders 5'9" to 5'11", 
<= 175 lbs. comfortably. Alterations for riders taller, shorter, heavier,
lighter or with otherwise bizarre dimensions are at the winner's discretion...

...leather protection at all potential landing points (shoulders, elbows, hips,
crotch and knees). The knees also have zip in hard armor...

...Kushitani emblem on left shoulder and deep zippered pocket over left breast.

All proceeds exceeding my asking price of $100 + shipping will be forwarded 
onto our AMA Toastmaster, Arnie Skurow, to be sent to the AMA to fund the 
new DoD wing.

RAFFLE tickets will be $5US, $6.25CDN (per the last xchang rate I saw, ay?).

The drawing will be held on July 31, 1992, sooner if enough checks are
received by then, later if not. The date of the drawing will be held at the
discretion of the RAFFLE director (me) who is only bound by the laws of Nature
and not even that, sometimes.

Send your checks to:	     Jack Reed, KotS
    	    	            2932 Swing Station
    	    	        Fort Collins, CO, USA 80521

Please include your email address so that I can advise those who entered of 
the winner. The rest of you can piss off. (8{)

Remember, the more times you enter or the more people that enter, the more
we can donate to the AMA fund.

As of last count we're still short the minimum number of entries (21) to hold
the RAFFLE. So if you want me to stop posting this get your entries in the mail
today!

The winner of the RAFFLE assumes the honorary title of KotS, with all it's 
duties.

Jack Reed  KotS         DoD 499|The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
GS750E     KotNew   303/5810207|the unreasonable one persists in trying to 
Bolder,    Colarada,    Amerika|adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com|progress depends on the unreasonable man. - GBS




Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Denis McKeon)
Subject: Two-Lane Blacktop (was Nicest Interstate)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 11:18:02 GMT
Organization: Connemara - Computing for People
X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.0.1 12/13/89)
Status: OR

carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>
>OK, where's the _nicest_ chunk of Interstate highway in the whole US of A?
>Must be a stretch at least 50 miles long.

Nicest interstate?  Interstate!?  Where all the tractor-trailers, state
police, and blue-haired cruise-controllers are?  Bletch and Ptooie!   
Leave the super-slab for when you just want to make time.
Check out some good two-lane blacktop if you want a nice ride.  Try:

    US-64 from Liberal to Shiprock, or
    US-87 from Brady to Lamesa,
    US-6 & state roads from Tonopah to Caliente, or
    US-50 from Ely to Reno,
    US-95 from Boise to Winnemucca (only 1 stop sign in Oregon, be sure to dab).

Pop quiz for the Bay Area folk:  how can you ride from San Jose to Modesto
without travelling on an Interstate? (clue: look hard, turn often.)

Nicest Interstate?   Jumbo Shrimp.

--
Denis  McKeon                            Good.   Fast.   Cheap.
galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu                       Pick two.
From: batman@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Karl Elvis MacRae - Ministry of Silly Walks)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: FJ1200; did they make filter changes difficult ON PURPOSE?
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:22:05 GMT
Reply-To: batman@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Karl Elvis MacRae - Ministry of Silly Walks)
Distribution: world
Organization: Tattooed Love Boys
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcave.ebay.sun.com


	Having just attempted my first oil change on my FJ1200, 
	I gotta ask; did they make changing the oil filter that 
	hard ON PURPOSE? =B^)

	I started working last night on this, thinking I had plenty of
	time to do my oil change and then cook dinner in time to catch
	Beverly Hills 90120. But no.

	In addition to TWO trips out (One to replace my cracked oil
	pan, another to buy more oil; I *thought* I had enough on the shelf,
	but NO...), I managed to spill oil ALL over the place when I
	took the thing-that-hold-the-oil-filter off. It was almost
	dark by the time I finished, so I really could not tell if
	everthing was back together correctly.

	SO this morning, I rolled the bike out, started it it up, and
	OIL SQUIRTED ALL OVER THE PLACE from the oil-filter-thingy, at
	which point I started yelling at the thing. When this failed
	to halt the flow of oil, I stopped the engine and got down and
	started looking for loose connections.

	Everything *looked* fine, and the bolts were plenty tight. 

	So the question to those of you with FJ's is, what's the 
	most likely thing I did wrong (Aside from trying to change
	my oil in the dark, which was obviously a bad idea)? The 
	thing appears to be seated correctly, yet oil is definitly 
	leaking around the edges..... 


	
		Thanks-


			-Karl, Mr. non-mechanical



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  Sun Microsystems, Milpitas, CA |  I DON'T SPEAK FOR SUN...  |DoD#1999
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       "Yes, they are real.
        Yes, it hurts.
        Yes, they are permanent.
        No, I will not ever want to remove them."    -Jeff 'FWA' Dauber
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From: keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Synthetic oils?
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:20:27 GMT
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii

In article <AeP6BKi00WBOM3ywBS@andrew.cmu.edu> ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon) writes:
>>From: keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller)
>>Subject: Re: Synthetic oils?
>>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 23:56:05 GMT
>> 
>>In article <3784.2A63CFA5@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
>(John Ham
>>ilton) writes:
>>>Tuesday July 14 1992 22:29, Ahmed Sbaibi wrote to All:
>>>
>>> AS> @UFGATE newsin 1.27
>>> AS> From: asbaibi@jade.tufts.edu (Ahmed Sbaibi)
>>> AS> Date: 14 Jul 92 20:07:37 GMT
>>> AS> Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
>>> AS> Message-ID: <ASBAIBI.92Jul14160734@jade.tufts.edu>
>>> AS> Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
>>>
>>> AS> Bikers suck shit
>>>
>>>We know were you are, asswipe.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>--- GoldED 2.40.P0623+
>>>--  
>>>John Hamilton                  uucp: amdahl.com!kennel!john
>>>DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
>>>ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
>>>She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
>> 
>>What's the matter Ahmed? Miss your camel so bad you have to post here for
>>entertainment? Go back to your day job at 7-11 and get the fuck off the net.
> 
>knocking each others bikes, riding habits, choice of oil, ex-SO and so
>forth is at least part of what this net is all about.  racist remarks,
>though, are, i think, in the very poorest taste.  in the future please
>post your sick garbage on rec.shit-brained.fascist.
>
>thank you.
>
>-peter

Well I thought he was being rather prejudiced and deserved to be on the other
end of it before he made any further comments about us "bikers". I know that
I, for one, don't fit the biker stereotype anymore than he probably fits the 
stereotype I gave him. I figured if he was going to dish it out that he had
better be ready to take it.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner)
Subject: Re: System III differences (need info)
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:07:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.164316.29045@cs.yale.edu>, mehta-anand@CS.YALE.EDU (Anand Mehta) writes:
|> Could someone tell me the difference between the 'regular'
|> System III helmet (white, red, grey) and the special one
|> (black) that seems to cost almost twice as much.
|> 
The black one attracts and absorbs laser and microwave radiation, thereby making
you impervious to speed traps!

|> Thanks,
|> 
Not at all :-)

|> -Anand
|> 
|> amehta@minerva.cis.yale.edu

Stef
DoD#0190			spgo@is.morgan.com
212-703-2682			914-993-0814
'82 KZ550 (Commuter)		'84 750 Interceptor (Canyon Carver)
From: rja@hastur.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cop Flashlights
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:43:19 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hastur

In article <14ipncINNs19@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>In article <l6omatINN6h4@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> rja@hastur.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen) writes:
>>    I HIGHLY recommend purchasing MagLites, i.e., cop-style water-
>>    proof, explosion proof, aluminum flashlights.  Pay extra and
>>    get a Xenon bulb.  Check flashlight periodically to make sure
>>    the button didn't get pressed on and discharged the batteries.
>
>Probably because cops have a history of abusing gay people, whenever
>I see one of these flashlights I immediately envision somebody's
>skull getting bashed open with it.  The flashlight function never
>even crosses my mind.  Does anybody else have this reaction?

    Hmmm.  It seems to me that when the flashlight is crushing
    ones skull that it is "crossing [ones] mind"...
--
    Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.

    "Traditionalists often study what is taught, not what there is to create."
			     - Ed Parker, Grandmaster, American Kenpo.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Virago 4Sale 
Keywords: Cheap 
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: rec.motorcycles, ne.forsale 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:10:20 GMT

In article <920724140955@crossbones.ftp.com> td@ftp.com writes:
>Last chance before trade in................

that's not fair, you never gave us a first chance!

>$3,600  bottom line      **Great Bike**

You found a dealer who'd give you that much for a 4-year-old non-HD?
:')
--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: Why have 2 throttle cables?
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:51:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.143202.22594@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>
shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
>In article <l6pe28INNr05@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>,
>dlady@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Don Lady) writes:
>>Once upon a time, Seth Zirin, a.k.a. Roid, Keeper of the 'Tude, wrote:
>>>US Department of Transportation (DOT) Regulations that motorcycles have
>>>a positive throttle return.
>>Then why doesn't a Yamaha Venture Royale have one?
>
>Harleys have them because of US DOT regulations.  The Yamaha may not
>have them because they weasled past the law (like many car companies
>shipping trucks in as cars with rear seats and then removing the seats,
>etc.) or because the engine is smaller.

(1) Please define "positive throttle return".  It would be nice to have
    quick access to the DOT regulations wherein this definition must be
    put forth, but I don't.  Perhaps there's more to this requirement
    than is suggested here; that is, maybe there are some designs other
    than "cable-to-open/cable-to-close" that meet the intent of the
    DOT regulations.

(2) How old is this particular DOT regulation?  Is it *very* recent?
    My '79 XS1100SF has "cable-to-open/spring-to-close", just as all my
    previous motorcycles have had.

Unless Congress or the US DOT are cutting a lot of slack (e.g. exceptions)
for overseas manufacturers, I'd guess that the present imported bikes all
meet or exceed DOT requirements.  Either that, or they should still be crated
and sitting on the docks.

Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu       "Ineluctably Prolix" - John Norman Sims, Jr.
Come an' get it!  Served up nice an' *hot*!!  Get yer FREEEEE *logorhea*!!!
From: rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ducati for sale
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:19:06 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <3880087@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) writes:
>The '80 Ducati 900SS must be a '90 model.

The old 900SS's in the UK are just starting to reach the price of secondhand 
new models. That means about 5500 pounds ($10,700). In fact the best bargain
seems to be the 900S2 (1983-ish) which can be got for around 3500 pounds.
People think they're a little ugly, but they still sound good.....


============================================================================
Richard Taylor                 DoD #981               (rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk)
"Gentlemen, starta your engines... 2 minutes, to the hills." Massimo Laverda
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews)
Subject: Braking Secrets of the Pros Revealed
Summary: Stop the presses!
Originator: matthews@ajsh
Organization: JILA, University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:54:35 GMT

Among other children's books that Katy picked up at the bookstore the
other day was "Motorcycling for Beginners: A Manual For Safe Riding",
c. 1972.  On page 59 we found this gem:

   "Occasionally, however, you may find it necessary to stop in a 
real hurry.  The procedure for emergency stops, as given by the 
California Highway Patrol Academy to its motorcycle students, is
this:

   o  Apply rear-wheel brake, locking rear wheel.

   o  Close throttle, cutting off gas supply, and release clutch.

   o  At the same time, apply front-wheel brake, but keep front
      wheel straight with the direction of travel.

   o  If the machine broadslides, hold wheel straight with the 
      direction of travel and hold balance by leaning _away_
      from the side to which the rear-end is sliding."

-- 
-Alex Matthews (matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu)
DoD #0010   
"It's too pure, too unrefined."  - Lance Holst, August '91
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: First Annual RCR and Crash
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:16:49 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

In article <JEP.92Jul28141208@thneed.cs.duke.edu> jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito) writes:
>
>Well there are several ways to look at this RCR crash.

I got the pictures back from the photo place and some of them actually
came out.  There are two shots of the crash scene, but no closeups -
the sight of all that blood just made me queasy.

I would like to send them around by regular mail.  E-MAIL me your address
if interested.  RCR participants get first look.

If there are other pictures, maybe we can combine them for the mailing.
Anyone want to do a 1st Annual RCR Photo Album?

E-MAIL to cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil.

Mark
-- 
 Mark Cervi, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC Code 2752, Annapolis, MD  21402
 cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (410) 267-2147
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cash@eola.cs.ucf.edu (Gene Cash)
Subject: Lost it in the clutch...
Organization: University of Central Florida
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:23:06 GMT


I had a not-so-happy occurrence happen last Saturday afternoon.

I started my bike (an '82 Suzuki GS1100GL) in front of my apartment, and 
when I let out my clutch, the bike went "thump!" and lept forward about a 
foot, followed by loud scraping noises from the engine, and very little 
clutch action.

I drained the oil and popped off the clutch cover to find that one of the
clutch bolts had come loose and tried to mangle the rack-and-pinion
mechanism.  Fortunately, it only managed to scrape a little pile of
aluminium shavings off the tunnel around the mechanism.  I did spend a
weekend making SURE there was nothing in the oil pan, and that all the stuff
stayed in the bottom of the clutch housing for the few minutes the engine
ran.

It's going to be no problem to replace the bolt and spacer that got mangled,
and the inside of the clutch cover will live, but what do I do to keep this
from happening again?  ALL six of the bolts were only finger tight, and this    
was just the first one to come completely loose.  (This explains the clutch
chatter I'd been getting for about three weeks, while I had been saying
"well, it just needs new plates")

The "Clymer's" manual only says to torque the bolts to 15-25 ft/lbs (don't
remember the exact number, but it seems low) and says nothing at all about
using threadlock.   It looks like if I "torque 'em down" the little
aluminium spacers will get crushed.  For an instant, I thought of
safety-wiring the damn things, but then sanity returned.

Is the "Clymer's" wrong?  There doesn't seem much to persuade the bolts to
stay, and I'm just a little paranoid now.

P.S. thanks to the guys who started the "tire mounting" thread...  It made
putting a K591 on each end much easier, with a lot lower "cuss-factor",
BESIDES saving me $55 at the local ripoff^H^H^H^H^H^H bike shop.

--

               cash@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu  cash@eola.cs.ucf.edu
'82 Suzuki GS1100GL                  Just another face in red jump suit...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Venison for Ride and Feed
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:05:13 GMT

In article <ltfm4p-.edg@netcom.com>, edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg) writes:
> "Old man, you will sign the papers."
> "I cannot sign the papers."
> "Old man, I said, you will sign the papers."
> "But, I cannot sign the papers."
> "Old man, I'm warning you, you WILL sign the papers."
> "But! I tell you, I CANNOT sign the papers."
> "And why can you not sign the papers?"
> "Because you have broken all my fingers."

SHEESH!  It is "Because you have broken both of my hands!"

"Vould you like a cigarette old man?"

sisssss

"Wow, he stuck it in his eye man!"

- Roid
From: jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Aerostich Crash Test
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:17:39 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC


This is the crash test resulting for the 1st Annual RCR crash.
The Aerostich did incredibly well. Though I kept telling myself I was
never going to crash test it, now that I did, I can hardly believe how
well it worked. I had the optional back protector and hip pads in
also. The slide was approx. at 40mph over asphalt and then over a
small section of dirt+gravel. I started the slide on my left leg (left
low side) and then started sliding on my rear. As I said in my
previous post, I felt like I was on a water slide. The sensation was
incredible for me since I have been in some pretty bad crashes during
bicycles racing/training.  The Aerostich is relatively slippery and
that contributed to the strange feeling of sliding with low
resistence. Damage to the suit was a ripped Aerostich label on the
left side pocket leg, and a small rip on the left wrist (I didn't have
the wrists zipped up all the way) from my watch band that created
localized pressure points. There is a soil stain on the rear right
seat that didn't come out with just regular washing. I can notice
signs of slight abrasion on the suit but it doesn't look like any real
damage.

It was a hot day, and I am glad I wore the suit. It saved my butt
literally.
--
Jonathan Polito                                      DoD #x (K 100)
jep@cs.duke.edu                                  jpolito@encore.com 
              "You Don't Say...." --- Sylvia Plath
From: pug@panserver.gvg.tek.com (Mike Pugh x4092-L5)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "cute" dealer names (Was: Combined dealerships)
Summary: NAMES
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:01:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: gold.4926
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Jul23.135830.26009@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>(So, how fast can we mutate a thread and subject line anyways?)
>
>randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:
>
>>  The "Fun Bike Center" here in San Diego sells Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, AND
>
>How about dealer names? I like "Cycle Logical", and here in Utah there's
>one called "Big Boy's Toys", sexist perhaps, but truth in advertizing. :-)
>-- 
>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
>Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200

Did anyone mention the Oceanside Ca. dealer BYKO  pronounced bi-co
they sold BMW Yamaha and Kawasaki. They then merged with a Honda
dealer, but did not change the name.

Michael Pugh
BMW K75s
BMW R60/5
Honda CBR600 (87)
Suzuki RG-250 Gamma (84)

AFM # 916
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: GATO Camera From Hell (tm)
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:34:02 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Monday July 27 1992 19:24, Dave Williams wrote to All:

 DW>  Every now and then some state in the US tries photo-radar again, but
 DW> they don't seem to last long.  The most successful variants have used
 DW> mobile units mounted in vans.

Yes, makes a lot of sense. Spend $17k plus operating expenses for the van
(estimate $10k a year since the government isn't good at keeping expenses
down), then add court costs for all the people who go to court to dispute
the auto-ticket, and before long it costs more than it brings in. Of course,
that probably means most US cities will do it. ;-)

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Goddamn polite CHP's
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:41:32 GMT
Organization: General Dynamics Land Systems, Sterling Heights, MI

In article <690@zx11.UUCP>, joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
> st1lz@rosie.uh.edu (Duck aka D. Harper) writes:
> 
> you know, I've gotten the pullover twice and was given the same excuse. I
> think they're makin' it up. isn't there something illegal about that? does
> anyone know a good way to find out if the cop was indeed lying?
> 

Yeah, they're lying when their mouths are moving.

Douglas                       Reply to:  gdls!parker@ilium.troy.msen.com
DoD #1961                     BMW #55821                  Renting N56136
From: BONG@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Eric Bong)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Catalogs, &c.
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:15:28 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: SLAC

In article <2806@contex.contex.com>, frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank
Perdicaro) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Jul20.124729.2714@kodak.kodak.com> vec@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Vance Cochrane) writes:
> >.......does 
> >anyone know of any companies that have good selections in leathers......
> >

> Vanson Leathers in Quincy, MA has the best leather catalog I have ever
> seen. .....

West of the Mississippi contact:

 Ken Hendren, Vanson Leathers (415)771-1565.

 Ask Ken what it's like to hit a bear at 40mph with a BMW R100RS.
Pelvis broken in 4 places, broken hip, broken wrist, pulverized spleen.
He'll be looking for a new bike in about two months.

Eric Bong DoD#0270
1986 FZ750
1987 FZR750 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles