From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal article by ImranAnwar
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 18:59:22 GMT

mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:

>India never releases the religious proportion of people who died in rioting.
>But I am not doubting his figures, it may be true that more Muslims have
>died.  But this is not due to any bias on the part of the police.  A few 
>years ago Hindu fundamentalists I think led by the BJP held a rath yatra,
>the UP govt did not allow them to pass through their state, saying it would
>flame communal hatred.  When the yatra tried to enter UP, they arrested
>Advani, and the police fired at the fundamentalists. Hundreds were killed
>in the shooting.  This is the reason the BJP came to power in this state,


	BETA , BJP WILL AGAIN COME TO POWER WITH AN AMAZING MAJORITY .


>the UPites felt that the Police was too brutal on a peaceful rally.  The point
>is that more Hindus died then because the Police was trying to control a
>Hindu mob, and more Muslims died now because the Police was trying to control
>a Muslim mob. But these incidents are tragic, but IMHO the police did the
>right thing, we cannot allow the mob to take the law into its own hands.
> 
>>

>This is true that their share to to top govt post and post gradaute degree
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>is smaller.  But this proves nothing.  The Rajputs in India form more than
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 HEY HEY ,

		THIS PROVES THAT THEY ARE INCAPABLE . WE KIND HEARTED

		HINDUS HAVE NEVER PREVENTED THEM FROM DOING ANYTHING .



>12% of the population.  They too have a much smaller share in these two areas.
>It means that either
>1. They are not interested in those jobs
>or
>2. They do not have the educational traditions to compete with others,
>   in India getting these opportunities is really difficult.  All have
>   competative examinations, and the examiners do not know the identity
>   of the examinees.  So there is no question of bias.

>But the Rajputs have a higher representation in politics and land ownership.
>Similiarly the Muslims have higher representation in the Indian
>film industry and politics.
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		   B'COS THEY KNOW HOW TO PLAY DIRTY POLITICS

		   MUCH BETTER THAN US .




>>
>>Even to India's forefather, the obvious threats to unity of an Indian nation
>>were relegious differences.   They knew that even with the mass exodus of
>>Muslims to Pakistan, there would still be the likelihood of religious 
>>trouble later.  It was with this in mind that the Indian leaders raised
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>>the flag of secularism.  They must have hoped that secular dream would keep
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	HOW GENEROUS OF US !

	BUT THESE MUSLIMS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND

	WE SHALL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN .

	THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT BJP SAYS . TRY TO UNDERSTAND ITS PHILOSOPHY

	YOU FOOLS .



>>the Indian unit intact, but both their fears and the hypocrisy of indian
>>secularist statements are exposed today.
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DON'T PROVOKE ME TO GIVE GAALIS TO YOU >



>>
>>There are three major religious groups in India. Hindus are the predominant
>>majority, followed by Muslims and Sikhs.  It should come as no surprise
>>that the two biggest internal threats to India are the continuing struggle
>>by Muslim Kashmir to end Indian occupation and obtain its right of self-
>>determination and efforts by Sikh Punjab to secede from the union that has
>>brought it nothing but persecution based on differences in reiligion.
>>

>Sikhs are the largest subgroup in the Indian army, they are also one of the
>richest communities in India. The CM of Punjab is a Sikh and the number 2 man
>in the Indian govt is a Sikh. I dont know what persecution he is talking 
>about.

	THERE IS NO POINT IN TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM < JUST GIVE

	THEM SOME DIRTY GAALIS AND THEY WILL UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING .





>Is he envious of the high regard our PM enjoys here?  What does this
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		      ATLEAST HE IS NOT AFRAID OF GETTING HANGED

		      BY THE ARMY GENERAL .

		      WAH RE WAH PAKISTAN .
		      THORI SHARAM KAR LE .


>paragraph have to do with the Ayodhia situation?

>>

>The demolition of the Mosque may be preplanned, but that does not mean
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YES OF COURSE IT WAS . SO BLOODY WHAT ???


>PVNR knew about the plan in advance.  Kalyan Singh was responsible to protect
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				       KALYAN SINGH CAME TO POWER IN ORDER TO 

				       MAKE A MANDIR THERE ( WHICH ALSO MEANS

				       DESTRUCTION OF THAT MOSQUE )


>the Mosque, which he promised to do, there was no reason for him to take
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	     HIS PROMISE TO THE PUBLIC WAS THAT HE WOULD BUILD A 

	     RAM MANDIR THERE AND RESTORE THE PRIDE OF THE HINDUS .


>precautions from his side.  When the BJP did not live upto its promise
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	ABEY JAA , BJP IS THE ONLY PARTY WHICH LIVED UPTO

	ITS PROMISE . IT GAVE AN AMAZING DEMONSTRATION OF ITS CAPABILITIES

	TO OTHERS AND SHOWED THE WORLD HOW TO KEEP A PROMISE .




>did he not dismiss all the BJP govts, arrest their leaders and ban their
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>grass root organisations.  Also he does not criticize the GOP and GOB
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	NARASHIMA IS GOING TO PAY HEAVILY FOR IT .


>for not taking any measures to safegaurd their minorities, it was more
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					       DON'T USE THIS WORD .

					       I HATE IT .

					       SAY ' THE MUSLIMS ONLY '


>obvious to them that there was going to be a retialation. I also suspect
>he does not know the meaning of genocide.
>>
>>The Muslim minority does not represent an economic threat to the hindu 
>>majority, nor does the destruction of mosques and the killing of Muslims
>>open up new avenues of economic prosperity for Hindus. Instead, it just
>>sends out a signal that ethnic cleansing has commenced, and now no mosques
>>or Muslims are safe.
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	ABEY ....... ,

		YOU LEAVE ME WITH NO OPTION OTHER THAN TO GIVE GAALIS .

		.......

		......, ......., ,,,,,,,, 

		ANYWAY , I LEAVE YOU THIS TIME .





>This guy is a hate-monger.  What centuries-old desire?  Read any Indian
>history book, Akbar is known as one of the greatest kings to rule India.
>Our national pledge says all Indians are our brothers and sisters, and we
>Hindus have always been sensitive to our Muslim brothers and sisters 
>wishes.  We have a different laws for Muslims, Vande Matram was not
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>made our national anthem when Muslims objected, the GOI plays a big
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>role in helping Muslims visit to Mecca.  We were one of the first countries
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>to ban Satanic Verses, we did not interfere in Afghanistan and Iraq as Indian
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	CHCHEE - CHCHEE 

	SHAME ON YOU GOI .

>Muslims may see that as anti Islam.

>Manoj

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I HATE . 

WHY DO YOU HAVE TO PAMPER THE MUSLIMS SO MUCH ????

IT MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL .

WE HAVE DIPLOMATIC RELATION WITH PAKISTAN JUST BECAUSE THE MUSLIMS CAN

VISIT THERE RELATIVES AND DO SOME ANTI INDIA PROPAGANDA .

	THIS IS APPEASING THE MUSLIMS OR NOT  ????

	WHEN WE DID NOT HAVE ANY RELATIONS WITH IRAEL FOR SO MANY YEARS

	I ASK YOU WHY THE HELL DO WE SEND OUR DIPLOMATS TO THAT SHAMELESS 

	COUNTRY TO GET HARASSED , IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THE ROOT CAUSE

	OF MOST OF THE TROUBLES IN INDIA IS THAT FUCKING PAKISTAN .

	THE ONLY THING THAT INDIA OWES THAT COUNTRY IS A STRONG KICK

	ON ITS BUTTS .

	KUTTE KO GAALI NA DOON TO AUR KYA KAROON .???

				


				JAI HIND .

						DEEPAK