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From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Amiga DTP isn't catching up quite fast enough...
Date: 8 Nov 1992 19:15:56 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In article <5NOV199211292562@rigel.tamu.edu> cpw8034@rigel.tamu.edu (Alan Wen (409) 693-2924) writes:
>First off, what kind of refresh rate can you possibly get in a scalable
>typeface prg like PageStream2.2 on an '020 based A1200?  Please, even an
>A3000/25 is unacceptable.

I'd say that's due to the program being run, wouldn't you?  If you
need a bigger processor, then get the 4000.

>Please don't say that I'm only telling half the truth...  how slow does
>your amiga gets when you have more than 4 colors on a 640x400 workbench
>screen?  I even notice the slow down w/ 16 colors on an A3000/25.
>Sure the A1200 has the AA chipset, but it's not exactly an A4000...

The system isn't going to be any slower with a 4 or 16-color hires
display.  You won't notice slowdowns until you go over 4 bitplanes on
the non-interlaced 640x400 stuff, and you can go 8 bitplanes without
slowdown on the 640x400 interlaced.

It's all a question of bandwidth.  AGA has it, ECS doesn't.

>THE COMPUTER WARS ARE OVER!  IBM clones have won.  The 90's are now years
>for grabbing the niche markets and not for total domination.  85% of ALL
>microcomputers in the world are ibm clones. 10% or so are Mac's... the 
>remaining 5% are misc micros like Amigas, NeXT's, etc...  

Things change in the world of consumer electronics.

Greg

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From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Re: Amiga DTP isn't catching up quite fast enough...
Organization: City University, London
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 19:47:47 GMT

In article <5NOV199211292562@rigel.tamu.edu> cpw8034@rigel.tamu.edu (Alan Wen (409) 693-2924) writes:
>MicroSoft (now bigger than IBM)

Is this really true. Wow, the giant is toppled!
And to think that MicroSoft was put on the map
by Commodore commisioning them to do BASIC for
the PET. Talk about missed opportunities.

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From: soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Is there a New Pagestream comming out?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:16:13 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Does anyone know when the next major update of Pagestream is due as I'm
>going to buy the program but will hang on if one is due soon.
>
>thanks
>
>Si.
>
No major update of PageStream has been announced. There's nothing about
to come out, so I suggest you buy now and start enjoying yourself.

Kevin Davidson, Asst. Moderator AmigaZone Vendor Support - PORTAL
               <soft-logik@cup.portal.com>
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From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: More 4000 compatible software
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:21:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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Last night I tried these programs, which all seem to work fine on a
4000:

   * Distant Suns (version 4.0; I haven't upgraded to 4.1 yet)
   * Scenery Animator (2.0)

Neither is smart enough yet to take advantage of the display database.
Distant Suns, even version 4.0, is quite snappy on the 4000.  I suppose
it must be doing a lot of WritePixel() calls to draw all those stars.
When you scroll the starfield, *wham!*.  You get a new display right
away, instead of having to wait like on a non-AGA machine.

 - steve
From: dobrien@sybase.com (Dave O'Brien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:02:42 GMT
     <KENTD.92Oct7110231@zappa.FtCollins.NCR.com> <amipb.02cm@amipb.gna.org>
Organization: Sybase, Inc.
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In article <9FHLr*II0@imart.adsp.sub.org> Michael-Wolfgang Hohmann,
mickh@imart.adsp.sub.org writes:
>-> -> I spent the weekend setting up ToolManager 2.0, and I must say
that it takes
>-> -> quite a bit of work, and performing repetetive tasks to get the
thing running.

I agree. TM2 is great once it's set up, but the normalized OO approach
takes a frightening number of keystrokes/mouse-clicks/requesters to get a
program set up in the menu or dock. Much more roundabout than 1.5, though
I can see how the new approach would be good for reusing objects (which I
don't need, 99% of the time).

TM2 seems to suffer from the data-driven approach to user interfaces -
the structure of the data (in this case, the object orientation) decides
how the user will interact with the software to set it up. By itself, it
ignores the fact that users (me, anyway) don't approach tools in a purely
data-driven way.

BTW, CanDo 1.6 has the same problem. Nice product, good results, but to
move an object on the screen, you have to go knee-deep in nested dialogs
because the x-y coordinates of the object are knee-deep in the data
structures. I hear that CanDo 2.0 will have a new "move" mode to bypass
the nested structures. Same data being changed, but more natural for the
user.

Similarly, to make the interface kinder and gentler, Stefan may want to
consider adding some options that make the setup a little more fluid for
each object. Like what? Well, maybe have a few extra buttons or a rollo
gadget in the EXEC window, so when you define an EXEC object, you can
click a button to *automatically* add it to the menu/dock/etc. using some
default name, the program's icon, etc. You could then customize it later
with a fancy brush icon or descriptive menu entry. The point is, you
could set up TM and get it working for you much faster...

While on the topic of TM, I'd love to have submenus in the Tools menu -
for applications, games, etc. My Tools menu is getting *really* long, and
even with separators there's too much to look at. In the docs, Stefan
mentioned this as a "harder" thing to do (I think), but it would be
*really* great.

Enough already  :^)
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From: laub@cs.sun.ac.za (Rudolph Laubscher)
Subject: DMS Splitter
Organization: University of Stellenbosch, RSA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:47:26 GMT

Hi

Could anyone please provide me with a FTP-site where I can find UNIX-source
code for a utility to split DMS-Files in smaller parts, after it has been 
compacted?Because I can only decrunch *.DMS files with sizes up to 400K on
my 1Mb A500! 

Thanx [e-mail <===========> laub@cs.sun.ac.za]
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From: adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap)
Subject: Re: FinalCopy
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:12:49 GMT

In article <jmarin.721216713@messi.uku.fi> jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin) writes:
>I am reviewing FinalCopy II and trying to decide whether to buy it or not.
>It seems to work well on my A3000 and A2500 and the output quality with a
>PS laser is good.

The output on ANY laser printer is good!!!! (Haven't used it with dot
matrix).

>BUT the fonts look horrible on screen.  In interlaced display modes they are

Are you sure you've got FCII?  FC I was really bad at screen displays.
But FCII had significant improvements regarding screen display.

>somewhat readable, in non-interlaced modes they look pretty terrible.  If
>this was just a preview mode it would be okay, but I can't imagine of editing
>texts for hours or days or weeks with that "quality" of fonts.
>
>Yes, I could use the 150% or 200% magnification to make the fonts look
>better - but then I could only see a small portion of the page (I want to
>see all columns all the time, at least).
>
>HOW do you ppl use FinalCopy?  Do you first edit your files with a normal
>text editor which uses a simple Topaz-8 font which is READABLE and then
>load the text into FC and print it out?

I use it at 640x400 16 color interlaced.  Note I only have an ugly 1084
Monitor.  If you want better display get some sort of flicker fixing
hardware and hookup a multisync monitor to your amiga.

>
>Or am I simply missing something?
>
>Any help appreciated.  I like FC and would like to use it - but I want to
>see what I'm typing!
>
>  Jukka Marin
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Get Final Copy II.  It's worth your money!

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From: hoover@math22.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (Uwe Schuerkamp)
Subject: Re: Metafont 2.7 refuses to open window! SOLVED
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:46:45 GMT
Organization: Math MadHouse Bielefeld, Germany

Hi folks,

this problem has been solved. RTFM carefully is what I did and I found
the line where it says that Metafont attempts to open an 400 X 500
window which is of course impossible on my non-interlaced WB screen.

Later,
	
	hoover



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From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Reading and Writing ST disks!
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:32:13 -0800
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Nov6.115451.20118@cs.nott.ac.uk>, arw@cs.nott.ac.uk (Andrew Roy Walker) writes:
> Could anyone please tell me if there is a PD/Shareware program available that
> allows you to read / write ST disks. Thanks..

The commercial product CrossDos allows you to read ST disks.  You may find that
the freely distributable demo version of this works as well.  Grab it off the
Fish disks.

-- 

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EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA     Office:  (604) 389-3430    Fax: (604) 389-3412
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: Re: AIBB-Results was(More 4000 compatible software)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:27:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Christoph Dworzak (dworz@amazing.UUCP) wrote:

> Test: WritePixel
> Benchmark result: 1.54 Seconds
> This Machine : 1785.7 <---
> A3000/25MHz  : 337.0

Something is going on here that I don't quite understand.  My 4000 isn't
_nearly_ as fast as yours on this test - in fact, it isn't even in the same
league.  I get about 2.75 times the performance of a 3000, while you are
getting about 5.3X.  There must be something I'm not thinking of.

  - steve
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From: cstaddw@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr A Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: AGA Software (The Quest begins)
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:23:31 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <1992Nov9.130813.1814@sth.frontec.se> bjst@sth.frontec.se (Bjorn Stenberg) writes:

>>     The first game in AGA will be out soon : ZOOL. And DeluxePaint
>>     4.5 is supposed to use the new modes too. ImageMaster 9.21 uses
>>     the AGA also.
>
>I think the latest PPShow (can't recall version) also supports AGA.

It has also been anounced that ADPro 2.0 (as well as The ADPro FRED)
and above have always included support for the AGA. Unfortunatly ASDG
were not allowed to reveal this before due to their NDA with Commodore.

To upgrade ADPro to AGA support, simpily buy an A4000 =;)
I`rd always wondered what that HAM8 rendering mode was!


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From: ccspad@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Paul Dale)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Amos!
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:03:02 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

In the referenced article, drz@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dennis Zeitz) writes:
[stuff about an Amos group deleted]

The process of getting a group formally started is long and can
take a lot of work. The normal procedure (don't take this as
gospel) is to propose the group in a suitable forum, take suggestions
for a charter and produce one and then vote on it. There are also
the formal usenet tech. details of actually setting up and administering 
a group which I'm not too familiar with.

> 
>  What's the word on Amos pro? does it have a program checker like easy 
>amos? so you can run the program line by line?

You can check the rpogram line by line or at varying speeds. There is
separate monitor for Amal. There are problems, however, such as using
sprite 0 in your program and trying to run the point and click monitor
at the same time :-) A good command line interfaced debugger would be
very useful.

Amos Pro is a great improvement though, I'd recommend it to any Amos
programmer.
>
>
>Dennis Zeitz              drz@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 

Paul Dale
Systems admin./applications support/programmer.
BUCS, Bath University, Claverton Down, Bath, Avon. UK BA2 7AY
tel: 0225 826215
e-mail: P.A.Dale@bath.ac.uk
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From: flui@fraser.sfu.ca (Francis Wai Gee Lui)
Subject: Re: More 4000 compatible software
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:08:11 GMT

In article <Jamie_Krutz.0kn6@a68k.denver.CO.US> Jamie_Krutz@a68k.denver.CO.US (Jamie Krutz) writes:
>|Chris Green - Graphics Software Engineer   - chrisg@commodore.COM      f
>writes:
>>        Note that the AIBB WritePixel test is no longer a good benchmark
>>_for HARDWARE_. The 3.0 ROM in the A4000 and A1200 contain a new optimized
>>WritePixel routine which can run around 3 times faster. Running this
>>test on a 25mhz A3000 with a 3.0 kickstart shows it being 3 times faster
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I haven't been reading this thread, but will there be a 3.0 upgrade kit for
A3000 owners, then?  Or does 2.1 have the same neat colour wheel and world
timezone map anyway?

>>than a 25mhz A3000 in AIBB! There are also other graphics speedups on the
>>AGA machines which come from software, not hardware.

Francis
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Anyone have Prowrite 3.3?
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 92 12:30:33 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct31.114418.1158@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> <82937@ut-emx.uucp>

>
>There are only two gripes that I've heard about the Final Copy font system.
>First, it is not Commodore's standard and upgrades can only come from 
>Softwood.  Second, if you have both CG Fonts and NumbusQ fonts then you
>have twice as many fonts as you would normally need on your hard drive and
>everyone knows that we all need more hard drive space.  Neither of these
>drawbacks would prevent me from getting the product, but they might prevent
>someone else.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>         Mark A. Thomas          / (amigamat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu)
>         CS Student : University of Texas at Austin

Aye, this be true. However one nice thing that Softwood did with
Final Copy I and II's installation is that all the proprietary
NimbusQ fonts it uses live in the Final Copy drawer itself, not in
your FONTS: device or fonts directory. So When you run Final Copy,
and ask to load a font from its menu, you ONLY see its proprietary
fonts listed, and conversely when you run your other software
(Dpaint, PPage, whatever) and bring up a font requester, you don't see
the Final Copy fonts. 

I just thought this deserved mentioning :)

Harv

(ps.. I'm a very satisfied owner/user of Final Copy II but am not involved
with Softwood in any way).
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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: ICONS are just too damn slow.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 18:44:28 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Hi.
>
>When I open a disk or a drawer on the workbench, the disk grinds (sounds like
>a table saw) and SLOOoooowly... puts up the icons.  It is like the icons are
>stored extremely far apart from each other.
>
>Wouldn't the icons load in MUCH faster if they were all in a row on the disk
>instead of spread out everywhere?  It is a real pain for the icons to pop
>up so slow.  Is there a utility that will put the icons next to each other on
>the disk for faster loading or something.  If so, how well does it work?
>
>--
>Faith

There is indeed such a utility. It's called "B.A.D." (Blitz Amy's
Disks), works with floppies and hard drives (so long as there are no
hard errors on them) and is a commercial program published by
Centaur Software. See your dealer.  B.A.D. works quite well.. it's
designed to solve the problem you describe and it does exactly that.

Harv
From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: More 4000 compatible software
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:37:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: fc.BxAtyo.1AE
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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David Corn (David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us) wrote:

> D*mn braggart..grin!  How about some WritePixel and other AIBB4.x
> statistics?  Can you give us any numbers?

Already done - see my review in c.s.a.reviews.  It has a full set of
AIBB results for the 4000.

   - steve
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From: adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap)
Subject: Re: FinalCopy
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:27:35 GMT

In article <jmarin.721380822@messi.uku.fi> jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin) writes:
>Will see. ;-)  I definately want something better than Word Perfect - maybe
>I should just stick with TxEd+ and AmigaTeX.  Clear fonts on screen and

Now there's a great solution!

>excellent printing quality. :-)  (Well, that's how I will write any bigger
>projects, anyway..)
>
>Thanks for all the suggestions,
>
>  Jukka
>
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>|        FINLAND             |                       Love beyond the hate |

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________________________________________________________________________________
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|       A Silver Lining!                | Computer Science / Mathematics Major
|        (hopefully!!!)                 | Andrews University
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From: frostmd@uhura.aston.ac.uk (MD FROST)
Subject: Re: ToolManager and WB3.0
Organization: CompSci Dept., Aston University, U.K.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:39:32 GMT

itch@cbnews.cb.att.com (richard.m.brack) writes:
: 
: Is anyone out there using ToolManger 2.0 with WorkBench 3.0?
: After copying TM2.0 from my 2000 (runing 2.04) and installing it
: on my 4000 something strange started happening.  It seems that
: TM won't launch any appications that have an 'EXEC TYPE' of 'WB'.
: I had to change everything to 'CLI' which works ok (except for apps
: that really need to be launched from WB).  'ARexx' EXEC TYPES work
: ok too, just 'WB' doesn't.  It seems to try to launch the thing, then
: I get a displaybeep but no error message.
: 
: Hmmmm, if you think I've got something set up wrong I'd love to know
: what it is...    Anyone else have this problem????
: 
: 
: Thanks for listening!
: 
: Rich...
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Hmmmmmm, sounds like a missing WBStart-handler to me. Have a look in your l:
directory.

Matthew

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From: arzheim@micky (Kai Arzheimer )
Subject: Re: .lha/.lhz splitter wanted (never got it the first time)
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:21:54 GMT

Philip Mucci (mucci@circle.cs.jhu.edu) wrote:
: 
: 	Could someone please post the FTP location of the unix source of
: such a program? Previous responses to this question never panned out. I'd
: prefer not to have to transfer to my Amy first and un-lha it. 

Unix sources for joinlzh/splitlzh (they compile on the amy without problems) come with
LhA_e132.run (IMHO the best lharc-clone). You can ftp this package from ftp.uni-mainz.de
Hope this will help.
: 
: 	Thanks much,
: 
You're welcome :)
: 	-P.M.

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