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From: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: Alternator Problem
Reply-To: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:49:31 GMT

In article <92350.130913IO00139@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, Erik Sette <IO00139@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>Hi!
>I have an 84 GTi and just recently bought a new alternator for it.
>I want to know why when I installed it the metal cooling like
>fan rubs and makes a horrible noise. Is it alright to bend that
>fan back a little so it doesn't hit to motor. It seems that the alternator
>is really close to the motor. Is there supposed to be some sort of spacer
>where the unit fits in. Replies would be greatly appreciated.

There are two places where the fan can hit. One is the fan hitting the 
face of the alternator. Thats easy to fix. If its a "small" contact
then you need to gently bend all of the blades up approximately
the same amount. If its more than that, either you need to add
a small spacer to pull the fan away from the face of the alternator
or unfortunately you have replaced your old alternator with a
new one that is different in construction (ie: Bosch vs
Motorola vs Lucas (yeeeeccchh!), if this is the case, get
a replacement that matches your old one.

The second place the fan can hit is on the mounting/adjustment 
bracket at the top of the alternator. This occurs when you get
an alternator that is different in its construction than your
orriginal one. The differences are in the location of the
lower mounting point and the upper mounting point. Compare
your old alternator to the new one, look at where the
mounting points are. If you notice a difference in the 
placement, etc, you need to get another alternator.

When it comes to replacing an alternator, remember there are
no universal VW alternators....make sure that you find a
part number or stock number on your old one and get a 
DIRECT replacement for your new one.

Ric Golen
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: mgb5528@cc.utah.edu (MICHAEL G. BECK)
Subject: Re: Need advice on 1st Beetle, please
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 15 Dec 1992 11:30 MST  

In article <eric.7@eeco.cba.ufl.edu>, eric@eeco.cba.ufl.edu (Eric E.C. Olson) writes...
{ 
{For years it was just an appreciation of a unique vehicle, then it grew into 
{fondness, now it's genuine LUST!  In short, I want a Beetle.
{ 
{I've seen the "Idiot book" by Muir mentioned repeatedly on this group - it's 
{on order at the bookstore.  Beyond that, what books should I look at?
{ 
{I've got about $2000 to spend.  I'd like to save some for the inevitable 
{post-purchase repairs.  

  You have just about the right amount of money saved up.  It depends on the 
shape of the car.  I would spend about $1500 on a half way decent car.  
Look for cars from California, or the west (anywhere that has a dry climate, 
these cars tend to have little or no problems with rust)  I would venture to 
say that if you have a friend who has a friend that restores cars or knows a 
whole lot about cars then you should take the car you are interested in to this 
guy and have him take a look at it.  I was lucky in that one of my dad's co-
workers re-works bugs and sells them for a decent price.  You might try to find 
such a person, because you generally get a car in semi-good condition for a 
decent price.

{ 
{What Beetles should I be looking at?  [Complete neophyte here].  Are '60s 
{models preferable to '70s models -- simplicity of design & repair?  What's 
{different about a Super Beetle?

   Sorry I don't know what the difference between the Super and the regular 
Beetle is, but I have had both.  I now have a 67 bug, but I had a 71 Super 
Beetle as well.  The year doesn't really matter, But I would look for a
67 thru 72, I think that those are the best buys.  Don't look for anything 
earlier, because they are tending to get rare, and probably are going to cost 
a lot more.  But if you find one in good condition and a reasonable price 
SNATCH IT UP!!!! by all means.  I tend to shy away from the 73 --> 79 cars 
because they look too modern for my taste.  They only give a little hint to the 
true charm of the simplicity of the Bug.

{ 
{Sorry for the simplistic questions, but thanks for your help!

   No problem.

Michael Beck
mgb5528@cc.utah.edu
University of Utah

Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: dfulton@aerogold.aero.nd.edu (david fulton)
Subject: [A] Fun with old VW's
Reply-To: dfulton@bronte.helios.nd.edu (Dave Fulton)
Organization: Department of Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering, University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:58:19 GMT

My dad has two '52 split-windows, one of which is just a shell, but the
other one is nice.  I enjoy taking it out and washing it on sunny days
because it looks so cool sitting all shiny in the yard.

I am still working on my '62, (it's hard to find time during school) but I can imagine the day when we go cruising down the highway.

And to all you who have been discussing Things - I agree that they are awesome.
Fold the windshield down, cruise a dirt road and feel the bugs in your teeth :-)
Our '72 is tons of fun cruising with 3 friends and a warm night.  

						Dave Fulton

-- 
The moon may be smaller than Earth, but it's further away.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: Oil Cooler Question
Reply-To: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:58:51 GMT

In article <1gm1acINN75j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>

>not to answer the question exactly, and i'm sure others willknow more,
>but i read an article which claimed that the oil/water GTI cooler(i think
>you are talking about the one that fits on the oil filter space?) should
>be trashed, as there are many horror stories about them failing and..well.
>your oil gets water in it, and your water gets oil in it, neither of which
>is a good idea..  I do not know exact details about it, but they reccommended
>that you trash the "stock" cooler in favour of a radiator style that will
>keep the twain uncrossed.  Just what i read, take it as you want it!
>DREW

I too have read that, I believe in Greg Raven's Watercooled Performance
Book and possibly in a magazine article. However, I don't give too much
creedance to those stories for a number of reasons:

1. I have almost 200k miles on my GTI, never had an oil cooler failure,
thats hard driving, long trips, autocrossing, rallyint, etc.

2. I know other GTI drivers who compete in autox, pro rallying,
IT racing, SS racing, etc., never had a failure,

3. If this was such a big problem, I would imagine VW would have
to have a recall on the magnitude of the heater core replacement,

and 4. I have never heard of anyone on here mentioning this 
problem happening to them.

Drew, this is not intended as any sort of flame back to you. I
feel the press this thing has gotten is the result of some
rare occurance, albeit a disasterous one. 

Has anyone out there had a failure of their water/oil intercooler?
If so I'd like to hear about it, maybe I'll go to a regular
air/oil cooler. Anyway thanks for the warning, time, etc.

Ric

Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Volks World Magazine
Reply-To: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:46:20 GMT

For those of you who are a bit tired of European Car (nee VW&Porsche,
nee VW Greats), or don't really care about T&A being mixed with
your VWs (VW Trends), or don't care about lowered, chopped and
channeled Type 3s with tuck and roll interior (Hot VWs) thre
is hope....albeit a bit expensive...Volks World from the
UK. This month there are a bunch of articles on restored
KGs. From what I have seen the mag deals more with
restoring classic VWs, much like VW Greats once did about
15 years ago or so.

I get mine at the local mag store ($5.00/issue), subscriptions
can be had from Eric Walters Associates  (800) 272-2670 (I
don't have their current catalogue so I don't have the
subscription price).

Ric Golen
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Modifying Directionals...another alternative
Reply-To: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:21:06 GMT

Rather than Micky-Mousing (sorry Walt) your side markers to
get them to work as turn-signals, why not spend $30 and
get the European side-marker kits from Autotech or APS?

If you have a Jetta or any Golf with the little insignia
plate on the front fenders, these are actually the holes
to mount the side turnsignals. On the Jettas (built in
Germany and shipped to the US) there are even the
socket plugs for the wiring harnesses in place
in the fresh air tray where the wipers/ignition
box, etc. are located. You just plug 'em in.

If you have a Golf or GTI, well you have to find a Jetta,
measure the location of the insignia plate , then 
mark off its location and drill holes. Some Golfs and
GTIs have the plugs already on the wiring harnesses and
some don't. If you don't then just use the 3M wire
splice connectors to tap into the lines.

I have the side marker lights, and they don't affect the
speed of the turnsignals, probably because they are
such low wattage bulbs.

Ric Golen
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: catalytic converters..
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 12:35:10 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

mferdows@aludra.usc.edu (Mehrzad Ferdows) writes:

> 
> quick question... a friend of mine has a 90 GTI, and is moving to Canada.
> He wants to know if there will be any problems if he simply removes his
> catalytic converter, and replaces it with a pipe. Is it that simple, or
> must other adjustments be done?
> 


Depends on where in Canada he moves to. In most of Canada there's no 
vehicle inspection, hence no problem - for now, anyway. In B.C., if you 
live on the lower mainland (around Vancouver, OK?) you need your car 
inspected by the "Air Care" program, and if it's been removed, you won't 
pass. 

(The rest of B.C. is still exempt from pollution inspection).

I'm not sure what level of inspection other provinces have got to, but it 
varies from little or none to this. 

Your friend should check with the DMV in the province he's going to.


Robert Smits            | Water? I don't need no steenking water!
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca   |
From: tedcrum@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ted Crum)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Need advice on 1st Beetle, please
Date: 19 Dec 1992 22:24:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu


I like the non-super cars from '68 to '73(?). You get 12 volts, torsion bar
suspension, a carbureter, cv joint rear suspension. Look for a sunroof.

-Ted Crum
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Oil Cooler Question
Reply-To: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:45:00 GMT

I have an oil/water intercooler from an 86 GTI on my 83 Rabbit
GTI autocrosser. During the winter I was planning on taking
the old heatercore and using it to help disapate the 
additional heat from the addition of the intercooler.

Here's my question: Would I be better off putting the
heatercore in series prior to the intercooler, logic
being that the water used to cool the oil would be
further cooled down before entering the intercooler, and
thereby letting the oil run a bit cooler....
                   or
Put the heatercore after the intercooler, and thereby
dissapating the additional heat from the oil cooler
and not raising the coolant temp and keeping the
engine/cooling system cooler?

Any thoughts?

Ric Golen
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 13:09:13 EST
From: Erik Sette <IO00139@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Alternator Problem

Hi!
I have an 84 GTi and just recently bought a new alternator for it.
I want to know why when I installed it the metal cooling like
fan rubs and makes a horrible noise. Is it alright to bend that
fan back a little so it doesn't hit to motor. It seems that the alternator
is really close to the motor. Is there supposed to be some sort of spacer
where the unit fits in. Replies would be greatly appreciated.




<>ejs
io00139@maine.maine.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: ereddy@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Ed Reddy)
Subject: Re: Two Newsgroups or One?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:49:05 GMT

In article <BzCv49.K2I@umassd.edu> rgolen@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>I agree with Tom here. Obviously there are a couple of people out there 
>who agree too...I've noticed a fairly elegant solution popping up here
>lately ... somebody is placing a "[A]" before air-cooled articles. So
>why not keep the list dealing with ALL VWs and just take the extra
>time when we post to place [A] before aircooled stuff and [W]
>when we post watercooled stuff?
>
Why not three or four groups?
 
rec.auto.vw.current <- a good idea just to cover current VW happenings
rec.auto.vw.tech.water <- to cover one side of technical info
rec.auto.vw.tech.air <- the other side
 
I think atleast there should be two groups...

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From: mferdows@aludra.usc.edu (Mehrzad Ferdows)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Oil Pressure Light
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:47:29 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

dgren@omar.WPI.EDU (David Gerard Grenache) writes:

>Driving around today, the oil pressure light on my '88 Golf would
>go on for a second or two and then go off.  I checked the oil
>immediately and there was plenty.  Also, there were none of the
>usual noises associated with a loss of oil pressure.

>I should add that the weather here in the Northeast has been
>terrible...lots of snow and now rain; and that my car was
>stuck in a snowbank for 4 days.  I am thinking that the problem
>is due to a faulty and/or wet pressure sensor and wire.  Does
>this sound reasonable?  Any advice is greatly appreciated!

>Until later.

maybe different weight of oil?



Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: jalics@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Laci J. Jalics)
Subject: Re: puddle problems
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:10:04 GMT

I have the same puddle problem with my 84 GTI.  The belts are fine.  My guess is
that the water splashes on the alternator, and causes the alternator not to
function temporarily.  I'm not sure of a solution, but maybe a splash guard of
some kind could be bolted by the alternator.

laci
From: keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: vw oil filter
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:57:05 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology

In article <1goc9qINNa8g@aludra.usc.edu> mferdows@aludra.usc.edu (Mehrzad Ferdows) writes:
>went to get my oil filter changed today at a gas station and the guy told
>me that my car (92 GTI) is one of two cars (integra v6) that needs a
>special oil filter (one with a check valve or something).. also
>costing TEN bux more.. is this true? bullshit? maybe true? well,
>I got it anyway.

Yup!  I only use the VW filters, although, i have heard that the FRAM
filters are acceptable.
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From: andrewb@europe.EBay.Sun.COM (Andrew Bulucea)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: VW THING ADDRESS
Date: 17 Dec 1992 08:13:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: andrewb@europe.EBay.Sun.COM (Andrew Bulucea)
NNTP-Posting-Host: europe.ebay.sun.com

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                 The Trim Shop
          Thing parts and accessories
                 Phoenix, Az.

              For info: (602) 955-7791
          To place an order: 1-800-966-7791
                Fax : 602-381-0933

This place is serious place, don't worry. I placed orders with them
3 times and I received the parts in less than a week. 


        THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMM !!!!

Yes, they have windows, hard and soft tops, fenders, seats, books.

If you need more info, you can drop me an email or call them. 
If you need, I can post a list with all prices, etc.


Andrew, 
andrewb@europe.ebay.sun.com
From: mwsn_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (HighDecibelsCanBeFun!)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: [A] VW giggle
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:14:43 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <92346.113816IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET> IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>Came out of the house to my 66 Beetle this morning to find that some
>very inept burglar had tried to rip off the tape player. Not only
>did this incredibly stupid person empty the glove box all over
>the front seat, he couldn't get the radio out of the dash. He pulled
>off the plastic piece fronting the radio, yanked off the knobs and
>of course couldn't yank OUT the tape player. He then tried to push
>it back into the dashboard. Too stupid to pop the bonnet and take it
>out. Also too stupid to realize that a person who drives a 66 VW with
>a hippie paint job has nothing of value to steal ANYHOW.
>
>J.

Heh-Heh. Gretchen, my '68 Bug, has a pullout deck that you can't pullout
without taking the steering wheel off. I can just see some fool trying to 
tug on it, only to get it stuck on the wheel. :)
Oh, BTW, those of you without adequate heat in your VW's this winter, learn
from my mistakes. I drove 500+ miles to Conneticut this past weekend in 
my Bug, thinking I wouldn't freeze. Ooooh, big mistake. Had to stop every 
half hour at overpriced truckstops to thaw out. Got good gas mileage though.
I was surprised. Gretchen averaged about 27-28 mpg. WOW. Not bad for a car
coming up on its 25th birthday, huh? The money I saved on gas almost makes
up for the frostbitten fingers. Sigh, but will I ever play the piano again,
doctor? :)
Everyone take care! Happy holidays!
Matt.
From: paul@hsh.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: VW giggle
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:15:10 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <92346.113816IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>, IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
> Came out of the house to my 66 Beetle this morning to find that some
> very inept burglar had tried to rip off the tape player. Not only
> did this incredibly stupid person empty the glove box all over
> the front seat, he couldn't get the radio out of the dash. He pulled
> off the plastic piece fronting the radio, yanked off the knobs and
> of course couldn't yank OUT the tape player. He then tried to push
> it back into the dashboard. Too stupid to pop the bonnet and take it
> out. Also too stupid to realize that a person who drives a 66 VW with
> a hippie paint job has nothing of value to steal ANYHOW.

It happened to my 70 Beetle,, too (in New York City), though I must admit I
didn't find it all that funny.  My first clue was that my radio had no knobs.
Then I discovered that the bozo DID figure that he had to pop the hood --
and swiped my very full tool box.  Never did get my radio knobs back,
either... 

On the lighter side, I once took a driving trip from NJ to VA in the same 70 
Bug.  Taking a detour through what is un-PC'ly called a Southern hick town, I
stopped at a dinky li'l gas station where a kid, about 10 or 11, pumped my
gas. 

When I came back from the john, the kid directed my attention to a spot on 
the ground under the front axle, where a puddle of water had appeared.  
"Looks like you got a leak in your radiator, mister!" he said.  

Well, I was more amused than pissed.  I couldn't resist asking him to go 
fetch his daddy for a second opinion... got a free Coke out of the deal, and 
the kid probably got a painful lesson in foreign cars.

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From: edb17@bih.no (Svein Solheim)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: VW images at nic.funet.fi!
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:33:04 GMT
Organization: Bergen College of Engineering, Bergen, Norway
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

There is some gif-images of VW at ftp.funet.fi !
/pub/pics/gif/pics/machines/cars/VW   !
Have a nice day..
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: nils@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Nils Gokemeijer)
Subject: Re: vw oil filter
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:34:32 GMT

In article <7543@dove.nist.gov> keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys) writes:
>In article <1goc9qINNa8g@aludra.usc.edu> mferdows@aludra.usc.edu (Mehrzad Ferdows) writes:
>>went to get my oil filter changed today at a gas station and the guy told
>>me that my car (92 GTI) is one of two cars (integra v6) that needs a
>>special oil filter (one with a check valve or something).. also
>>costing TEN bux more.. is this true? bullshit? maybe true? well,
>>I got it anyway.
>
[yup, you should have the special ones with the extra valve]

What do people do with used oil? Where do you bring it?

I am going to change my oil sometime this week, so any advice is helpful.

(in a few days I'll have lost my "oil-change virginity" :-)

-Nils
From: edb17@bih.no (Svein Solheim)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: GIF IMAGES AT FTP.FUNET.FI
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:58:40 GMT
Organization: Bergen College of Engineering, Bergen, Norway
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


There are some gif images at ftp.funet.fi, vintage vw and vwcab.
/pup/pics/gif/pics/machines/cars/VW
take a look!
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: morton@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Brent Morton)
Subject: Re: Passat?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:32:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.134847.26178@bmerh85.bnr.ca> seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour) writes:
>I am considering buying a '91 passat GL.  Does anyone have anythig particularly good or bad to say about passats.  I am a bit concerned about maintenance costs and about the cam chain. 

I've posted -- more than once -- nothing but praises for my 1991 GL, currently
with 39 000 km. Major services occur every 24 000 km; so far I've only had one,
but I recall the cost as being $150-200. Oil-change and related maintenance
is (by the book) every 12 000 km; the 36 000 service cost under $30. I've found
VW to be excellent with warranty work as well -- not that I've had any with 
this particular car, save a loose third brake light.

-- Brent
morton@artifis.gaul.csd.uwo.ca