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From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Toto Washolet
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:29:41 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article 92Sep7081742@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp, harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:
>In article <7171@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
>   writes:
> =} [toilet seat description deleted]
> =}I been thinking of getting one, just to get my wife with the remote....
> =}just once!
>   Hope you can afford it :)  This thread caught my interest so I went
>to a toilet seat store.  They had a few models of these electric wonders.
>They were all roughly over 120,000 yen (1000 US dollars)  :(  I acted
>like I wanted to buy one and was able to talk the salesperson down to
>100,000 for the simplest one so I figure the discount shops might have
>them quite a bit cheaper...

>   The price of a comfortable... uhhh... seat?

Thanks for the info.  I want a stripped down model and will probably go to
a discount shop.  Can you check the size of the box that it comes in?
How many cm. on a side and how many kg does it weigh?


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From: keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese immigration
Date: 9 Sep 1992 06:58:02 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
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Give her a break. She can do whatever she wants to do.
Narita Airport is the most crowded international airport
with the worst facilities I have ever seen. All flights from
North America arrive between 3 and 5 pm and you have to wait
a long time under that discriminatory sign, "Foreigners" while
watching the lines for "Japanese" move rather quickly.
Passengers are very tired after 8-12 hours of flights, deprived
of sleep, fed to gills with airline food, and dazed after
watching boring infligt movies.  And the worst part of your travel
has not yet begun - a torturous trip from Narita to hotels in
downtown or homes in suburbs.  It's a pressure-cocker situation
and immigration, well, is as courteous as its counterparts across
the Pacific.  I don't think they have heart or mind for that matter
- don't bother forcing a smile because it does not make any
difference.  In the past 10 years, I passed through the Japanese
Immigration at Narita, in and out, with a Japanese passport.
I don't recall any instance of the Japanese Immigration Officer
ever uttered even a word except, "Next, please!"  By the way,
I have never bothered to write in Japanese on a embarkation/
disembarkation card, a tiny paper slip they attach on your
passport as you enter/leave Japan. I use English and put
my signature in cursive alphabets and no Japanese Immigration
Officer raised any question about it. They all speak English,
aren't they? if they are hired to give a hard time to "furriners."
:)
From: wohfuchi@splash.Princeton.EDU (Wataru Ohfuchi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Followup: Chinese communists & Japanese Imperial Army
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:38:06 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <2648@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

[some omitted]

>Last week somebody brought in a copy of the //Sekimatsu Kara Mita
>Daitoa Senso// (loosely translated as "The >Great East Asia War:
>Views from the End of the Century") so I know it physically exists.
>It would interesting to know what a non-Japanese who can read
>Japanese would have to say it contained.

  Perhaps it would be interesting also to know what Japanese, on this net,
who can get the book would say about it. It was new to me what Dave
described. [NOTE: Mr. McLane just reported about the book. He did NOT
claim it is true.]
  I checked the library here and couldn't find the book.

...Wataru
-- 
  ...Wataru Ohfuchi
     Program in Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, Princeton University
     w1o@gfdl.gov _or_ wohfuchi@splash.princeton.edu
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Why the Fascination?
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:00:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: bigbird.7181
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research

For Masuda-San: Looks like you need some small adjustment
of your characteristics: try making your sexy nerdiness
into nerdy sexiness. Then you might have to beat them away
with a stick.

- Bill
From: morihiro@aegis.or.jp (Morihiro Kubo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Is MAZDA a Japanese word?
Summary: That is Toshiba
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:11:49 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan



In article <1992Sep2.014809.25272@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

> In article <TOZAKI.92Sep2033953@radish.math.keio.ac.jp> tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI) writes:

> >At first, they made lamps.
> 
> Mazda was in heavy industry from the beginning,
> and I doubt they had anything to do with lamps (correct me if I'm wrong).
> I suspect that what the poster had in mind was Matsushita Electric
> (a.k.a National in Japan, Panasonic elsewhere);
> which did start in the lamp business - to be more precise,
> by selling two-way sockets.
> 
> -Yuzuru

Until about 20 years ago, Toshiba made MAZDA brand lamps. As Hidekazu TOZAKI
said, Toshiba named it for Persian 'Ahura Mazda', God of Zoroastrians.


===morihiro
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:38:02 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

>In article <192sfbINNa83@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu
>(Henry Robertson) writes:
>=> The northern islands were not anybody's territory, until Ainu came to 
>=> inhabit the islands a few thousand years ago.  Since then, southern
...
>=> by Kobayashi Takini).  Hence, Japanese legitimacy for claim of the Northern
>=> Islands is no more justified than Japanese claim for Hawaii, which was
>=> settled sooner by Japanese immigrants.  Japnese American culture has a
>=> longer history than Northern territory Japanese community, which is 
>=> assimilated to Soviet culture and is divided about returning to Japan
>or not.

>My god! I did not know this. This means that most of the midwest and
>everything west of the Mississippi will have to be returned to Native
>American control, as we don't have any legitimate claim to that land,
>and anyway we didn't consistently kill the buffalo until the Taisho
>Era.
>
>I did not know that. Geeze.

Sorry, but it's common knowlege....

But wait! According to various sources, the so-called "Native
Americans" weren't native at all: they came across the Berling
straits from Asia where they had migrated to from Africa. Thus 
the original inhabitants weren't humans but animals. 

Perhaps there is some truth to the saying "America is for the birds"
and Hitchcock's movie was about ethnic rights. 

Dave

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: where to go west of Osaka
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 21:21:45 GMT

I would appreciate your suggestions as to the most
interesting places to visit west of Osaka. I will
have two days only, a rail pass, and 24 hours a day
(I've been to Nara and Kyoto).

Is a one-day cruise from Hiroshima south and back worth
one of those two days? If I go to Kyushu, what are the
most exotic/awesome/picturesque areas that I could
reasonably visit in one (two) day(s)? (which may be 
18 hours long :-)).

I would really like to see the best, although I fully
understand it's next to impossible to do it in such a
short time.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Tony

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Cost of Living in Mitaka and Musashino Cities
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:15:34 GMT

In article <qdqn6qa.dyeh@netcom.com> dyeh@netcom.com (Daniel Yeh) writes:
>
>Hi there,
>
>First, I'd like to thank those who responded to my question about 
>the area code 422 in Japan. It turns out that 422 is for Mitaka and 
>Musashino cities. Now, here are some questions concerned with the 
>cost of living in the 422 area.
>
>Does any one know the average rate for an apartment with two bedrooms, 
>one bathroom, one kitchen, and washer/dryer in the 422 area? Also, is
>there an American School within the 422 area? How much does it cost to 
>attend the K-6 classes at an American School in the greater Tokyo area?

2 bedroom? Gonna be a BIT high. I paid ~ Y70,000 for a loft bed small apartment
in Inogashira (a GREAT place to live, BTW). In Kichijoji, things will be propor-
tionately more expensive. I paid ~ Y130,000 for a one bedroom, living room,
"dining kitchen" with a laundry place in Musashino-shi (a bit farther from
central Tokyo, but also not a bad place to live). My guess would be around
Y200,000 for the Inogashira/Kichijoji area for a 2 bedroom. Also, if you're
not careful, you'll get some nasty 'reikin' and 'tessurio' surprises (as much
as 3 months rent worth). So, shop around.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do.
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Date: 14 Sep 1992 05:21:08 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Fishing!  If that's the issue, then Japanese should strike up a deal with the   
Soviet navy to use a fleet to drag a wall of death down to Tokyo & unload it.
Otherwise, use all that plutonium they unloaded recently to power an
armored nuclear fishing sub to hunt for arctic krill (amaebi), out of
everyone's way.

Then again, back in the '60s, health nuts in California believed you shouldn't
eat tuna canned in Japan.   Don't eat eta tuna!!!
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:31:08 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>In article <justin.716354248@mik.uky.edu> justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan) writes:
>>In <1992Sep12.220956.26964@usl.edu> pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:

>>>	Neither America nor Europe
>>>	has any right to or any business in
>>>	pressuring Japan...

>>Or any other sovereign nation, for that matter (not to hear THEM talk, though).

>Well, if Japan is asking the USA's and western Europe's help in pressuring the
>Russians to return those islands (and they are), then, yes, we have as much
>right tell them what we think as they have.

Seems fair enough. If you ask somebody to help you, that help usually
includes their (sometimes unwanted) opinions.

>>>	Any economic aid from Nippon to the FSU
>>>	should depend exclusively on the outcome
>>>	of negotiations between the two countries,
>>>	and not on some presumed urgency or priority
>>>	of US or EC goals.

>><clap clap> Amen. This would certainly be a first in foreign affairs: 
>>considering the nation(s) in question! >:(

>So, you are against coordinating any sort of effort to help the former USSR
>in solving its rather extreme economic situations.

One might be tempted to the economic aid from Nippon to the FSU
should be depend only on negotiatons between those two countries.
But according to a report on the front page of the Daily Yomiuiri of
Sep 9th, former Foreign Minister of Japan Saburo Okita called for
triangular relationship involving the China, Japan, and the United
States for guranteeing the future of Asian-Pacific prosperity. This
being at a two-day internationl symposium in Tokyo with the theme
"Japan- China Relations in a Rapidly Changing World". 

And the curious part about FSU it it extends all the way to China and
Japan.....


[* other subjects omitted *]

>I like the Russian approach to the problem; each time Japan has turned spurned
>aid to Russia, they sell some rights on the islands to some other government's
>companies. The Japanese get upset, file protests, then have to pay MORE to those
>other parties, and make other concessions, than would otherwise have been 
>necessary.

I don't know if it's been "each time" but the latest story about how
a Hong Kong real estable company has contracted a 50-year lease
agreement on Shikotan is one. Only, wait! While the signatory has a
Chinese name (written in English) he maintains residence in
Saitamaken and has a Japanese passport (Daily Yomiuiri Sep 13). 

So maybe Russia and/orthe Southern Kuril district authorities will
just sell it off piece by piece and have it owned an operated by
Japanese money under non-Japanese rules which would allow gambling
and other activities that aren't allowed in Japan per se. 

Dave

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JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
From: pascal@apd.cpg.sony.co.jp (Pascal Goguey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: O mi ai
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:48:33 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Sony Corporation,Communication Products Group Audio Products
	Div,Atsugi,Japan.


        About the message of Mr Gerard Vignes, Mr Nobuyasu KANEKAWA
wrote : "As you know, a man  should love woman as  a human being..."
I don't understand why Mr KANEKAWA is surprised by a practice which
is so common in Japan : O mi ai.
        In that case, the only difference with o mi ai is that
Mr Vignes arranges himself the o mi ai with a person fitting his
description. Obviously, Mr KANEKAWA does not agree with that kind
of practice. Neither do I. But if Mr Vignes and a girl reading this
newsgroup do agree, why not ? Would there have had so much comments
if he was looking for a pen friend ?
        Do I understand that o mi ai does not belong to the
"goodness of Japanese culture" ?

******************************************************************

        For the people who did not read the related messages :


:                            WANTED
:
:       Attractive,  independently  wealthy  Japanese woman
:       for financial support and romance.    I am 35 years
:       old, male heterosexual,   seeking companionship and
:       financial support.  If you are interested and would
:       like  to  learn  more  about  me,  please write to:
:       Gerard Vignes,   USL PO Box 42709,   Lafayette,  LA
:       70504 USA.   Please send picture.
:
:                                               Gerard

I am sorry that I am not a Japanese woman.

As you know, a man should love woman as a human being not as
a Japanese nor as a p...(beep). And all the women would like
to be loved as a human being.

If Japanese women read your article, they will have an impression
that you have whoever-Japanese-woman-is-OK way of thinking.
To deny this impression, it better to add why you need
Japanese woman.

I agree that we men tend to feel exotic attraction with "foreign"
women.  But it is not real women's attraction. It is something like
attraction of rare animals.

I hope your email address is not thieved by someone else.

Nobuyasu KANEKAWA

--
  Pascal Goguey  Sony Corporation  ($@GC9%7Z(J  $@8d7](J)
  Communication Products Group Audio Products Div
  Atsugi TEC, Japan

  Aucun homme n'est jamais assez fort pour ce calcul.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: cause of US participation in WWII
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Organization: University of Washington
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:25:52 GMT

Dave McLane suffers from a serious case of miscomprehension when he makes the
statement that `Pearl Harbor was not a minor incident, but was certainly not
solely responsible for America going to war in the Pacific.'

McLane evidentally suffers from the bizarre reasoning that says that in some
way subsequent US participation in WWII was voluntary.

BEFORE the US declared war on Japan, Germany, and Italy, the three Axis powers
had already declared war on the US.  Pearl Harbor was not a raid by Japan to
say `do not think of making war on Japan' -- it was the first blow of war that
was unleashed by Japan against the US.  The Philippines and other US
territories in the Pacific were already under attack as Congress was debating
whether or not to declare war (a no-brainer, but it still took 30 minutes to
go through the formalities).

The only way that the US could have avoided participation in WWII after Pearl
Harbor would have been to surrender.  And not just to Japan.  Since Germany
and Italy had already declared war they would want their cut of the spoils
too.

Prior to Pearl Harbor there was a significant peace movement in the US that
was determined to prevent US participation in the war.  It was one of the
issues of the previous year's presidential elections.  It is quite likely that
in the absence of Pearl Harbor that the US would have stood by, content only
to send some arms to the UK, USSR, and China.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.history
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: US Ironclads (Was: Re: US colonializing )
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:32:08 GMT

briand@anasaz (Brian Douglass) writes:

>Also, at the start of the war of 1812, the British publicly stated one of
>their vessels could take on and defeat 2 equivalent enemy vessels.

Hmmm. A reference? [Pardon my skepticism, but the Admiralty didn't go
in for that sort of hyperbole.]

>However, by the end of the war, no British ship was to engage a like
>American vessel unless their was at LEAST a 2-1 superiority.  

Obviously Percy Broke in the Shannon didn't know about that when he took
on Lawrence in the Chesapeake.

>This owed to
>the overgunning on American vessels giving them about 40% more firepower
>than their counterparts in the British navy.  Ships with equivelant
>firepower were too slow to keep up with smaller American vessels.

Yes, a brilliant tactical move of Humphreys. It worked well in the 
Mediterranean, but apart from the psychological effect of the captures 
of the Guerriere, Java, etc., the role the US
heavy frigates played between 1812-1814 was negligible. They spent most 
of the war bottled up in port along with Madison's quite useless
gunboats. The US "naval" vessels which really achieved anything were
those on the lakes (Champlain, .....)

>My point is, during the 19th century the US Navy was, in fits and starts,
>leap-frogging the British in technology, and exhibiting themselves as the
>heir-apparent to British dominance of the world's oceans.

Well this applies to all military technology. In any event, it wasn't 
until the 1930s that the US really passed the UK in naval clout.

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(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Tokyo
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:41:18 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article J8y@world.std.com, cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond) writes:
>I'll be in Tokyo this weekend... any suggestions on bookstores??

Jimbocho in Kanda.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M)
Subject: The Northern Islands
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:09:56 GMT

	Neither America nor Europe
	has any right to or any business in
	pressuring Japan into reaching a settlement
	with Russia over status of the Northern Islands.

	Any economic aid from Nippon to the FSU
	should depend exclusively on the outcome
	of negotiations between the two countries,
	and not on some presumed urgency or priority
	of US or EC goals.
				Does either America or Europe,
	before implementing policy in Asia, consult with Japan?
	So then how can Japan be expected to subordinate
	her most vital interests in the home region
	simply to avoid inconvenience to the West?

							Gerard Vignes

-- 

pssres12@ucs.usl.edu	Gerard Vignes, USL PO Box 42709, Lafayette LA 70504 USA

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Subject: Re: Any Japanese Pussy Available?
    <1992Sep2.175304.4231@island.COM> <7170@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 06:45:09 GMT

In <7170@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

>I can assure Justin Sullivan that asian juveniles in a tetosterone induced
>rush might be just as a capable of making rude sexual and rasist comments
>as the next barbarian. Unfortunately, we don't suffer from lack of barbarians
>in any case. They're everywhere. That's Mike Fester's point, I believe.

   Asians? Racist? NAWWWWW... (must be a side effect of eating all that raw
seafood)
   Of course, everyone should know that there's no racism in the US. That's
just a myth.. It's those damn fool Yankees that have always stirred up
trouble about this and that. It was the Yankees (don't forget) that took it
upon themselves to carry out wholesale destruction of fine cities like Atlanta
and Richmond (and lay seige to civilians in Vicksburg) and STEAL General Lee's
fine home in Arlington. Only a gruff, uncouth Yankee like Grant would do such
a thing. That's where racism comes from.. I guess they just don't know
any better (we won't talk about Lincoln, who took it upon his foolhearty self
to betray the south..). (it's very insulting to be called a Yankee by a Brit
or an Aussie, too.. How can they make a mistake like that? Yankees talk
funny!)
   So barbarians aren't EVERYWHERE, just up North. :)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Subject: Re: Cost of Living In Musashino
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:41:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.004217.3493@bnr.ca>
	davev@bnr.ca writes:

>My wife, daughter, and I live in a 2LDK in Musashino-shi, just
>about 10 minutes north of Mitaka station on Chuo-sen.  
>
>We did look at different 2LDK places and found that the price
>range (quite wide) started at about 170,000/month.

Wow! That's no less than three times my rent.
Are you a company executive or something?
An average salaryman like me can never afford to pay that much.
If I got married, there should be absolutely nothing left after
paying such an extraordinary expensive rent every month,

unless we have DINKS(Double Income, No Kids). :-)
Right?

>Sometimes you also have to purchase the gas stove for the 
>apartment.

Note: Not oil.
In almost all apartment house, you can't use an oil burner.

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.