HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: How to generate the complete character set
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: SoundSoftware, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:56:29 GMT

Sean Lamont writes
[...]
| I have discovered using various text-processing things, that much to
| my chagrin it is unobvious how to generate the complete extended
| character set.  Most of the characters I have been successful in
| generating.  (for example, "a + backtick" (character 129) can be
| generated with ALT-i A.  However, a number of them I have not been
| successful in generating.

Prefix	Accent Type	Characters
Alt+a	dieresis	   
Alt+e	eg...		                       
Alt+i	grave		                   
Alt+n	circumflex?	           
Alt+u	umlaut		                     
Alt+,	cedilla		   
Alt+^	circumflex	                   

Just in case you can't read the special characters after they've traversed the  
Internet, valid characters which can be prefixed are a,c,e,i,n,o,u,& y

So, counting the capitol and lower case characters as unique (they do have  
separate font entries) there are 53 international characters above which can be  
typed from the NeXT keyboard using the 7 prefixes.

I think that some applications do not accept these prefixes.  Could be due to  
things like e-macs bindings getting in the way, but I'm not sure.
-- 
Brian Willoughby	Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	Sound Consulting and Signal Processing Software
NeXTmail welcome	- NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission
From: death@netcom.com (David Burrowes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Seeking info re: Dots
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:47:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Two questions:   I recently got the demo of 'Dots' off sonata.
It came with no information about price/etc.  Does anyone know what
the going price is, or where I can reach the author (I tried the
address in the info box, but have heard nothing in reply)

Second: Has anyone used with the deskjet500?  How well has it worked/
how fast is it/does it drag the machin to a halt, etc?


Thanks in acvance

\david john burrowes
death@kira.net.netcom.com
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From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: Two-up small font from ASCII text?
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:02:40 GMT

Hello,

I have a large ASCII document that I want to print. To prevent using hundreds of  
pages I want to use two pages (on A5 format) on every A4 page I print. I have Edit  
(of course), Writenow and Wordperfect. Do people have a good trick of achieving  
this?

Thanks,

-- 
Gerben Wierda                 Tel. (+31) 35 833539
  "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there."
  From the Talmud(?), rephrased in Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".

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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: Adobe Photoshop: Port that suckah' over!
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:35:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.205727.20660@fcom.cc.utah.edu> yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang/Humanities) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.212746.1895@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com writes:
>>In article <1992Dec10.141950.9223@chromagrafx.com> msb@chromagrafx.com writes:
>>>after they buy Image.  When I saw it at Seybold they had most of the features
>>>of Photoshop but were greatly lacking in speed and it seemed that it crawled
>>>when making changes to the image.  
>>
>>The new beta of Image is significantly faster than the previous ones.
>
>The new beta of Image is fast and highly Photoshop competitive, feature
>for feature as well as performance-wise. When Image hits the streets this
>thread may never again surface--it's really that good. Just don't try to
>edit CMYK images on a 16MB color slab--RGBA screams, however.

I still wouldn't call it "fast"........  It is faster, though.  But
for CMYK images editing, yes, it's slower since it must separate the
RGB values as you put them into the image.  However, it only does half
the job by not doing any sort of CMYK display emulation.  Instead of
doing a back-transform to get viewable RGB values for display it just
fires the CMYK values to the window-server which does a piss-poor job
of CMYK display.  Also, it's RGB->CMYK seperation is a bit on the
cheezy side.  When you select an RGB color with the color panel and
put that into a CMYK image, it generates a CMYK combination that is
visually the same on screen as the RGB you picked in the panel.  This
would be great if it were doing CMYK display emulation, but it's not,
so that color is going to come out totally wrong (especially compared
to the rest of the image) when you go to press.  It also couldn't open
most of my CMYK image files...


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com      |  "C++'s runtime sucks shit!  Virtual functions
Andrew Loewenstern       |   can go straight to hell!"  - Ron Pomeroy
Cube Technologies, Inc.  |                   ForYourEyesOnly public key:
0000000701B61D1ADF0DFC9C16185CEA055200000007EB4A9FEB1922065D471A89E905B5
From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adding/Subtracting Time With Improv
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:48:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1gqehiINNd96
Reply-To: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.oce.orst.edu

In article <johnr.724605076@mik.uky.edu> johnr@nx39.mik.uky.edu (john s  
roberts) writes:
> Does anyone know how to get it to subtract and add time like you would
> on a time sheet.  For example, I would type in an IN time and an OUT
> time and it would calculate the amount of time worked in hours.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> --
> -=+ John S. Roberts, Jr.       FACTS Center  McVey Hall  Room 100  +=-
> -=+ Communications Consultant  Work: (606)257-2275  Home: 272-1417 +=-
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> -=+ Computing Center           HomeUUCP: johnr%agnostic@ms.uky.edu +=-
----
             Monday      Tuesday ...
      ---------------|----------
IN           8:00 AM
OUT          1:30 PM

time(hrs)    5.50

The IN and OUT are formatted with a time/date field.  The time(hrs) is  
formatted with a normal real number (0.00).  When the times are subtracted,  
they return a number with units of days.  So to obtain hours, multiple by 24.0.

Monday:'time(hrs)'  = (Monday:OUT  - Monday:IN )*24.0

--
Tim Pugh
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
tpugh@oce.orst.edu
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From: gisli@hamilton.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN-  and Pascal-Compiler
Reply-To: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:13:34 GMT

Nick Kline writes
}  In article <1992Dec14.235008.5632@jaeger.ka.sub.org>  writes:
}  >Hello people out there in NeXTland,
}  >
}  >I am a student and for my studies I need a FORTRAN- as well as a  
}  >Pascal-Compiler for my NeXT-machine, because my professors don't want to  
}  >believe, that it makes more sense to learn NeXTSTEP-programming or  
}  >Objective-C
}  
}  
}  For pascal you should get the excellent pascal to c compiler.  It
}  produces C code and then you compile the C code.  It works very
}  well. In the past I have compiled it on both a System V machine and
}  a BSD one and I expect it to work without much trouble on a Next.

Ditto Fortran.  The Fortan to C converter that I know excists on some
NeXT ftp sites has never given me any problems.  I've used it to install
linpack, eispack...name it.  Compiling is amazingly quick.  Comes with
an f77 script that makes it completely transparent.

Also, if you want to --- dare I say it? --- pay, there is a Fortran90 
compiler from NAG as well as the Absoft F77 compiler. I have used neither.

..............................................................................
							Gisli Ottarsson
   Delenda est Carthago.         			University of Michigan
							gisli@engin.umich.edu
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Two-up small font from ASCII text?
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: SoundSoftware, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:40:27 GMT

Stefano Pagiola writes
| gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes
| > I have a large ASCII document that I want to print. To
| > prevent using hundreds of pages I want to use two pages
| > (on A5 format) on every A4 page I print. I have Edit (of
| > course), Writenow and Wordperfect. Do people have a good trick
| > of achieving this?
| 
| In Edit and WriteNow, go to the format->Page Layout panel and choose  
| 2-up from the pop-up list.

The 2-up output from Edit in 3.0 ends up in Landscape mode.  Unless, of course,  
you actually *choose* Landscape in the Page Layout panel - in which case your  
document shows up in Portrait mode with two centered, half-size pages: one on  
top of the next (go figure).  No good if you wanted Portrait output.

WriteNow, Release 2.0 (v37), does not actually have variable line-spacing.  All  
lines have the same height, even if you change from 12-point all the way down  
to 6-point or 2-point.  So if you want to print a 2-up document in a half-size  
font to preserve the expected aspect ratio of paragraphs, you end up with a lot  
of white space.

Rather than just complain, though, I can offer a possible solution - the  
following command-line will eat an ASCII file and print out a 2-up document in  
Portrait mode using a pleasantly spaced (width AND height) font:

enscript -2 -fCourier6 ascii.txt

The price is right, too.  It comes free with your NeXT.  Look up 'enscript' in  
Librarian for more options which might better suit your needs.  My guess is  
that Edit uses "enscript -2r" for 2-up instead of my preferred options.

| It would be great if Preview let you do it (in fact, its ludicrous  
| that it doesn't); then from any app you'd just print to .ps and use  
| preview to print it.

I think reading in and reformatting a PostScript document may be too  
complicated unless all software on the NeXT outputs Adobe Document Conforming  
PostScript to help with the interpretation of the input.

There are utilities on various archives to do this with PostScript files, but I  
think that they require Conforming PostScript on input.
-- 
Brian Willoughby	Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	Sound Consulting and Signal Processing Software
NeXTmail welcome	- NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission
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From: kocks@leland.Stanford.EDU (Peter Kocks)
Subject: Re: NeXT Word Processors - Junk, garbage, and more junk...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:13:22 GMT

Could someone please explain what is meant when someone says,

"NeXT needs a *REAL* wordprocessor".

What is a *REAL* wordprocessor and what does it do that one of FrameMaker, WP,
or WriteNow does not do?  (add TeX to that list).  

I'm really curious.  I understand that NeXT does not have a native MS-WORD port
(although you can run it through executor if you want).  I also understand
that some people just love MS-WORD and have essentially grown-up on it.
While it is very nice, it is IMHO far from perfect.

Moreover, on a NeXT, any of the exisiting wordprocessors use DPS so you
truly get  what you see (much better than WORD, for example).  Also, the 
NeXT mail  makes working on complex documents over a network relatively
easy compared to most other machines.  You CAN do similar things on other
platforms, but it usually requires a lot of configuration work and additional
products.  Everyone who has a NeXT has NeXTMail.

--Peter Kocks
  kocks@chemistry.stanford.edu

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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: Wanted: App to preview fonts without installing them.
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:49:26 GMT

Ivo Welch writes
> [1] Is there an  application that would  allow me to preview fonts  
> without having to install them first?

Instead of purchasing an application, you could stick them in  
~/Library/Fonts and then only you would be able to see them, preview  
them and use them.  If they were okay, then you could move them to  
/LocalLibrary/Fonts so the whole system could use them.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail welcome
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From: vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ivan Vesely)
Subject: I need image warping software
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:56:29 GMT

Here is the problem.  We have density plot images that
we want to average together.  If the objects on the images were identical, we  
could just sum and average the images together and get the mean density plot.   
Unfortunatelly, the objects on the images are similar, but no identical.  I  
figure if we were to warp the structures to some standard shape, preserving the  
grey maps, we could then do the image averaging. 

I remember hearing something about image warping sofware a while back.  What is  
it called? Will it do what I need, and can I get a demo version to see if I  
like it before I buy it?  Can Mathematica do this?

--
Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics
University of Western Ontario,     vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca
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From: eric@whyanext.WhyaNeXT.com (Eric Schwartz)
Subject: NewsGrazer
Reply-To: eric@WhyaNeXT.com (Eric Schwartz)
Organization: WhyaNeXT, Inc.  (nntp)
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:52:16 GMT

Hello,

I've been trying desperately to get NewsGrazer to work via an NNTP connection
over SLIP.  I've tested the connection out using GNUS in GNU Emacs, which
works fine.  Here's what happens:  I launch NewsGrazer, which immediately
says "Locating Active Newsgroups..." at the top of its main window.  The
mouse pointer starts spinning, and the main menu has not yet popped up in the
upper left corner of the screen since the application has not gotten that far.

I can do a 'netstat' and see that NewsGrazer has established an NNTP connection
to the appropriate server, but after the exact same time it takes for GNUS
to read in the active file, NewsGrazer quits.  [Further evidence that
NG is actually doing something:  'alt.something is already in the active file'
or a similar message appears in the console window just as NG quits.]

I thought this might be a permissions-related problem--maybe NG can't write
to a certain file, etc.--but I ran it as root with the same effect.

Does anyone have a working setup for NewsGrazer under release 2.1?

Thanks,

Eric
--
Eric Schwartz
eric@WhyaNeXT.com (NeXTmail spoken here)
work )408( 279-7191
FAX  )408( 279-7167

"A five is an old four." --from 'The Silly Record' by Stoo Hample
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From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Subject: Enlarging Terminal/Edit/etc.  typesize --how???
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:56:03 GMT

Hi,
     No, I'm not going blind ... but, sometimes when several folks are  
looking at my NeXT screen it would be nice to move from 10 points (which  
is wat the screen appoears to be) to something bigger.
     How do I do this?

--
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics
MIT E52-252C
Cambridge MA 02139
v-mail: (617) 253-0914
e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu  (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff)
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From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Good news for lisp programmers!
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:20:53 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University


It's not for me to make an announcement, I have pretty good reason to
believe that there will be positive news Real Soon Now for those of us
who count on having a more or less state of the art lisp available for
NeXT. Especially those of us who have entered into some sort of
support arrangement with Franz...

Anyway, lisp on the NeXT isn't dead at all.

--Steve Anderson
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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Adobe Photoshop: Port that suckah' over! / Gamma
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:40:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.213524.6350@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com  
(Andrew Loewenstern) writes:

> This would be great if it were doing CMYK display emulation, but it's 
> not, so that color is going to come out totally wrong (especially 
> compared to the rest of the image) when you go to press.

Even if Image did CMYK emulation, I would probably not trust what I see on  
my NeXTstation color monitor. The monitor's colors are way too bright and  
do not compare at all to anything printed (while still accounting for the  
differences between additive and subtractive color systems). I'm seeing  
bright gaudy teals on the screen when the printed colors are almost Navy. 

For a while I was using HSD's color scanner on my NeXT, and found the  
scans to be beautiful and accurate, but only on a NeXT screen. They appear  
way too dark when viewed on other platforms (Macs especially), and they  
printed dark as well. I have since switched to using the scanner on a Mac,  
with the appropriate software, and the scans look beautiful on the Mac  
screen as well as printed, but pale and overly bright on the NeXT.

All this leads me to the question: Is there any gamma correction software  
for NeXT monitors? Is it even possible to have such a thing on the NeXT?  
The gamma software that comes with Photoshop for the Mac is very useful  
for tweaking one's display to get as close as possible to printed output. 

AK
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From: rick@indeed.stanford.edu (Rick Stanley Francis)
Subject: X11 under 3.0
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 09:27:48 GMT

Hello, I've been having some trouble trying to get an X server to run  
under 3.0 on my Turbo monostation.   I've tried both the R4 and R5 mouseX  
servers, and I get a window, but the display is messed up.  Note that I  
did do the chmod on /dev/video.  So, does anyone out there have a working
(public domain) X server that will run under 3.0??

Thanks in advance.

Rick Francis
rickf@leland.stanford.edu


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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: A tip on tip
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: SoundSoftware, Bellevue, WA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 07:21:39 GMT

Bob Peirce #305 writes
| I run a Telebit TrailBlazer and I could never figure out how to automate
| the setup and dialing for different machines.  The other day, reviewing
| the manual for /etc/remote, I found reference to cm which is a command
| to issue a string of instructions to the machine you are logging into. 
| Playing around with this command I discovered I could use it to
| initialize the modem and to dial out.  For example, to call my office
| computer I have the string :cm=at&edn\r:.  For another machine I use
| :cm=ats50=0s66=1dt#######\r:, where ####### is the phone number.  I was
| surprised to find these things work perfectly.
| 
| If you have been having trouble getting tip to set up your modem and
| dial out, give cm a try.  It might solve your problem too.

This is a very good tip, and it mentions a feature of /etc/remote that I could  
never get to work (I'll be trying again soon with your example as a starting  
point), but I wanted to mention what might be an easier way to dial a system.

If an /etc/remote entry has the string :du:, tip will treat that entry as a  
dialup system and will use the :pn=XXXXXXX: string as the number to dial.  I  
just type 'tip systemname' and it will dial the correct phone number.   
Currently, I cheat by setting the EEPROM in the modem with the correct  
parameters for tip (see above, couldn't get :cm= to work) and then force UUCP  
and SLIP to make modem configuration changes from the basic modem setup.

Here is an excerpt from my /etc/remote, set up to build a system entry in  
easily replaceable units:

# Telebit WorldBlazer definition
telebit|wb:\
        :dv=/dev/cufb:br#38400:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:at=hayes:
# CD 2400 definition
cd2400|2400 Baud Hayes attributes:\
        :dv=/dev/cufb:br#2400:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:at=hayes:
# Select Main Unit for other definitions
mainunit:tc=wb:
# mainunit:tc=cd2400:
# System phone numbers
CDCD:pn=14087309015:pa=none:du:tc=mainunit:
Hayes:pn=18008742937:pa=none:du:tc=mainunit:
Seagate:pn=14084388140:pa=none:du:tc=mainunit:

I suppose I could also include :cm= settings to further customize each system,  
provided that I can figure out how to make it work.  Perhaps there is some  
interaction between :du:pn= and :cm= that is giving me trouble, while your  
(Bob's) method of combining the setup and dial command in one is the key.

Oh well, that's enough about that from me...
-- 
Brian Willoughby	Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	Sound Consulting and Signal Processing Software
NeXTmail welcome	- NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: BackSpace BUG info needed
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:43:13 GMT

nairdo@csnaa (Nick Airdo) writes:
> I'm looking for information on the BackSpace application (running on  
> 2.2).  I was told by several people that it has some bugs which may  
> cause your NeXT to freeze, and that it wastes cpu cycles.
> 
> The reason why I need this information is because my NeXT admin is using  
> backspace on our the servers.  He refuses to believe me unless I show  
> him some documentation on the problem.  

Some modules had bugs in them.  They were quite noticable, as I remember.  I  
just don't run those modules.  

This machine is running 2.1, and has been running backspace for, oh, 95% of  
the elapsed time since BackSpace was released.  The average uptime for my  
NeXT is about 30 days.  The usual reason for a reboot is that I have to  
connect or unconnect some SCSI device, or install new software.  The last  
time it crashed or froze up was, uh, gee I don't remember.

There certainly were a few modules with bugs in them, but the ones I use  
don't seem to give me any problems.

As for wasted cycles, just change the mach priority (it's a preference  
setting in BackSpace).  This will reduce, though not eliminate, the amount  
of cycles it steals from other stuff.  You can also switch which module you  
use.  I tend to use the "Clock" module (on 2.1), which doesn't seem to use  
up much CPU time (I run KPerfMon so I can see how busy the CPU is at all  
times).  Other modules were real pigs.  Again, just avoid those modules.

--
Garance Alistair Drosehn     =     gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
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From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Subject: How do you download using  (XYZ)MODEM protocol?
Reply-To: robert@amo.mit.edu
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:42:29 GMT

Hi.

I'm trying to download some files from a dial-up BBS that doesn't
support kermit downloads.  Alll they have are ZMODEM, YMODEM, and 
XMODEM.  

Can anybody tell me how to download these formats?

I compiled the zmodem package from sonata, but I can't figure
out how to combine these command-line utilities with kermit.
Should I be using tip?  How?

Thank you for your reply.

------------------------------------------------------
Robert Lutwak                           robert@amo.mit.edu
Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
MIT