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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:05:00 BST
Reply-To:     C.A.Constantinides@CITY.AC.UK
From:         C.A.Constantinides@CITY.AC.UK
Subject:      'Se Mikra Asia, Kupro, Leukwsia..' [apanthsh ston D. Kouvatso]
Comments: To: hellas@uga.cc.uga.edu

>>   Me to megalutero pazari tou 20ou aiwna (tis prwdotikes sumfwnies
>>ths Lwzanhs to 1923, meta3u Benizelou-Kemal), [...]

>Kala, sobarologeis re file h o kahmos sou pairnei ta myala?


Kat'arxhn, den mou aresei to ufos sou (kuriws, apo thn stigmh pou den
exw prosbalei kanenan) alla agnow to parapanw (opws kai ta paromoia pou
uparxoun sto keimeno sou) kai 0a apanthsw.


>[...]
>kalytera na emene h Kypros ypo Agglikh kyriarxia para na anoige etsi
>hlithia o askos tou Aiolou, me ta gnwsta apotelesmata tou '74...


Edw mallon 3exnas duo basikotata pragmata: 1o: oti h enoplh e3egersh
htan apotelesma poluxronwn agwnwn (kuriws diplwmatikwn) gia autodia0esh-
enwsh me thn Ellada kai 2o: oti htan to elladiko kratos pou polu
lan0asmena (shmeio to opoio apofeugeis na sxoliaseis) apodekthke thn
legomenh 'trimerh' diaskeyh dinontas etsi ena dwro sthn Tourkia: to
dikaiwma na exei apaithseis (kai bleyeis) sthn Kupro.


>Tha elega
>malista oti, me thn ek twn ysterwn gnwsh bebaia, kalytera na mhn eixe ginei o
>agwnas ths EOKA tou 55-59 - htan strathgiko mas sfalma!


Mhpws htan la0os kai h apaithsh tou anafairetou dikaiwmatos ths
autodia0eshs, mia kai auth htan anti0eth sta strathgika sumferonta tou
Brettanikou apoikiokratikou neo-nazistikou ka0estwtos;
Mhn 3exnas, epishs oti oi Kuprioi den h0elan thn 'ane3arthsia' thn opoia
h Brettania 'edwse' se polles prwh apoikies ths, alla enwsh me thn Ellada.
Perissoteres leptomereies gia thn agglokratia kai thn enoplh e3egersh, exw
anaferei se prohgoumena mou keimena. Diafwnw oti o agwnas ths E.O.K.A htan
lan0asmenos.
Pisteuw oti o agwnas ths E.O.K.A den eprepe na stamatouse, estw kai an auto
shmaine oti mia merida fanatika proskollhmenwn ston Arxiepiskopo Makario,
o opoios anagkasthke na upograyei tis sumfwnies gia ane3arthsia sthn Zurixh/
Londino, 0a anagkazotan na enantiw0ei (pi0anon) sth sunexish tou enoplou
agwna.
E3'allou o kupriakos laos DEN upograye tis sumfwnies Zurixhs/Londinou.


>Htan epomeno oi
>Aggloi, blepontas to 82% tou plhthysmou ths Kyprou na eksegeiretai enantion
>tous, na prosaiteristoun to allo 18% gia na isofarisoun thn piesh se baros
>tous kai na baloun etsi tous barbarous sto paixnidi... kai malista se mia
>asxhmh epoxh gi autous, pou eblepan thn autokratoria tous na dialyetai alla
>den to eixan parei akoma apofash. Eprepe na diekdikoume thn Kypro mono me
>diplwmatika mesa, telika oi Aggloi tha ta mazeuan opws ta mazepsan apo oles
>tis apoikies tous kai tha mas thn afhnan, estw oxi to '60 alla to '65, '70,
>'75 (opws allwste mas edwsan palia ta Eptanhsa).


Edw se parapempw  pio panw (5h paragrafos) alla sou upen0umizw kai kati allo:
Otan h Ellada katalabe oti h apodoxh apo merous ths, ths trimerous, htan
pagida, tote dhlwse oti 0a eferne to kupriako 'ekei pou anhke': sta H.E
Tote h Brettania apeilhse oti 0a eferne sthn epifaneia to legomeno
Makedoniko problhma. Etsi, to kupriako anti na die0nopoih0ei mia kai htan
ka0ara 0ema autodie0eshs enos upodoulou laou (dikaiwma to opoio eixe
anakurhktei hdh apo thn 'Koinwnia twn E0nwn' kai -argotera- apo ta H.E)
katelh3e se 'trimerh sumfwnia' me thn Tourkia na parousiazetai san o
prostaths twn apantaxou ths ghs mousoulmanikwn meionothtwn.


>Alla na xarakthrizeis tis symfwnies ths Lwzannhs prodotikes, na xarakthrizeis
>ton Benizelo prodoth dhladh - ton anthrwpo pou diplasiase thn Ellada kai tha
>thn tetraplasiaze an o anengefalos ellhnikos laos den ton ediwxne apo thn
>eksousia thn 1h Noembriou 1920 - einai anw potamwn kai katw pathsiwn!

H Ellada upoxrew0hke sth Lwzanh na upograyei mia e3eutelistikh sumfwnia.
Htan htthmenh, epomenws h upografh htan anapofeukth. Auto den shmainei oti
oi sumfwnies autes eprepe na enax0oun se ideologia apo ta elladiko kratos
(h Ellada eftase sto shmeio na tis epikaleitai, malista th stigmh pou
h Tourkia tis a0ethse ametrhtes fores -kai auto pisteuw oti to anagnwrizeis).
H Ellada 0a mporouse kallista na tis eixe kataggeilei apeires fores, kuriws
meta tous barbarous diwgmous twn ekatontadwn xiliadwn Ellhnwn sthn Polh,
thn Imbro kai thn Tenedo.

(Se parapempw sto biblio tou Kwnstantinou Bakalopoulou (ka0hghth Newterhs
Istorias sto panepisthmio ths 0essalonikhs) 'Istoria tou Boreiou Ellhnismou:
0rakh', Ekdoseis Ad/fwn Kuriakidh, 0esallonikh, 1990, (Kef. 12, meros II)
pou anaferetai stous ellhnikous plh0usmous ths Anatolikhs 0rakhs kai thn
parallhlh poreia tous me ton antistoixo (kai epishs 'mh antalla3imo'. Sta
tourkika: etablis) mousoulmaniko plh0usmo ths Dutikhs 0rakhs)


><shmeiwteon, kyria euthynh feroun oi Galloi, Italoi KAI SOBIETIKOI (oxi mono h
>mishth sou Dysh...) pou bohthousan pantoiotropws tous Tourkous,


Edw h sponta einai atuxhs. Thn megalh boh0eia twn Sobietikwn pros to O0wmaniko
ka0estws thn gnwrizw kai aporw (kai dierwtoumai kata poson edwsa thn entupwsh
oti eimai 'filo-anatolikos') giati to tonizeis.

0a sou 0umisw kai alla duo shmeia. To prwto kai polu shmantiko einai h eu0unh
tou aristerou kinhmatos (S.E.K.E) to opoio arniotan na anagnwrisei e0nika
('alutrwtika') problhmata sthn Anatolh.

Se parapempw sto biblio tou Blash Agtzidh 'Pontiakos Ellhnismos: Apo thn
Genoktonia kai ton Stalisnismo sthn Perestro.ika', Ekdoseis Ad/fwn Kuriakidh,
0essalonikh, 1990 (kef. 1) sto opoio malista uparxei kai fwtotupia tou
'Rizospasth' pou se ar0ro tou aneferne: 'emeis oxi mono den luph0hkame gia
thn astikotsiflikadikh htta sthn Mikra Asia, MA KAI THN EPIDIWKSAME'
(an xreiastei, mporw na dwsw hmeromhnies klp, dioti auth th stigmh den exw
ta suggrammata mazi mou).

Deutero shmeio (oxi shmantiko, isws, alla sxetiko me thn Kupriakh
pragmatikothta) einai oti sthn Mikrasia (kai anamesa stous pollous Kuprious)
uphrxe enas a3iwmatikos (loxagos, tote) apo to xwrio Trikwmo (shmera
katexomeno) Ammoxwstou: o Gewrgios Gribas (Digenhs) argotera idruths ths
'X' kai (polu argotera) stratiwtikos hgeths ths E.O.K.A. Giati to anafernw:
dioti o Gribas, opws kai polloi alloi, epestreyan apo thn Mikrasia fobera
anti-sobietikoi kai (safws) anti-kommounistes. Shmantiko einai epishs
kai to gegonos ths sumfwnias filias Lenin-Kemal (an den kanw la0os, 1930)


>[...]
>..Ti tha
>proteines esy, na synexisei o Benizelos ton polemo kai na eftanan oi memethdes
>mexri th Lamia?


Oxi, h htta htan anapofeukth [des, omws, pio katw kai ta shmeia sta opoia
rixnw eu0unes ston Benizelo]


>Eprepe hdh tote na to paroume
>apofash oti h Kwnstantinoupolh xathike kai na antallaksoume kai autous (kai
>to lew auto egw, kata to hmisy apo thn Polh...) - wste na mhn ftasoume sto
>shmerino xali pou exoun eksafanisei autoi tous Ellhnes ths Polhs, Imbrou kai
>Tenedou kai zhtane kai ta resta gia tous mousoulmanous ths D. Thrakhs.


Edw anagnwrizeis oti to Tourkiko ka0estws a0ethse (kai sunexizei na to kanei)
die0neis sumfwnies (Lwzanhs). S'auto to shmeio exw anafer0ei pio panw me
leptomereies kai parapomph ston Bakalopoulo.
To shmeio pou aneferes, gia thn antallagh tou ellhnikou kwnstantinoupolitikou
plh0usmou den to sxoliazw.


>>  Sthn Iwnia, to elladiko kratos, akolou0wntas kai pali tis
>>prostages ths 'summaxhs' dushs, apagoreuse thn ekkenwsh twn polewn
>>th stigmh pou den uphrxe ellhnikos stratos sthn Mikrasia. Eixan
>>apagoreusei, epishs, kai thn metafora prosfugwn, vazontas polu
>>varia prostima se karavia pou tolmousan na metaferoun Ellhnes

>Sigoura auto stereitai sobarothtas...


Gia to shmeio auto, des epishs to prwto kefalaio tou Agtzidh. An xreiastei,
tote mporw na metaferw perissoteres leptomereies.


>Kai sigoura oloi
>shmera mporoume na sixtirisoume thn mnhmeiwdh blakeia tou ellhnikou laou na
>ksanaferei tous basilikous kai ton Germanofilo basilia Kwnstantino [...]


Edw den nomizeis oti krineis kati ek twn usterwn; Opws, swsta, anaferneis
h Ellada eixe mpei se ena polemo apo ton opoio den uphrxe eukolh e3odos.
E3'allou fenetai oti paragnwrizeis to gegonos ths e3antlhshs tou laou, kati
pou aitiologei (alla oxi kai dikaiologei) ton paramerismo tou Benizelou.


>Me dyo logia: Thn pathsame sthn Mikrasia opws oi Germanoi sthn Rwsia. H ektash
>parahtan terastia gia mas kai o exthros paraphre bohtheia apo allous...


Nai, apo anatolh kai dysh.


>An esy perimeneis na apeleutherwseis
>ton Ponto gia na kaneis eirhnh, zhse ston kosmo sou. Oi ypoloipoi, as
>sobareutoume kai as doume pws tha swsoume o,ti exoume


Gia to ufos sou, exw hdh anafer0ei kai den apantw (ektos kai ean sunexistei)


>Dimitris Kouvatsos


Kwnstantinos A. Kwnstantinidhs
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