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From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: *GREAT MOVIE ACTORS*
Summary: Baldwin
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:48:31 GMT

(stuff I wrote deleted)

> Well, I'm not sure about hunks ;-{), how about some actors I
> like?
> 
> > Older
> > ****
> > 
> > Charlton Heston
> > Cary Grant
> > Marlon Brando
> >
> 
> John Wayne
> Gary Cooper
> Jimmy Stewart  
> Rhet Butler (the name eludes me right now)  Clark Gable
> Glen Ford
> Henry Fonda
> Claude Raines
> Humphrey Bogart

James Mason, George C. Scott, Laurence Olivier, young Orson Welles

> 
> A little less old:
> 
> Clint Eastwood
> Gene Hackman
> Morgan Freeman
> Richard Harris  King Arthur always!
> 
> ;-{)
> 
> Sean Connery
> Danny Glover

William Smith from "Streets of Laredo"
James Earl Jones
John Amos

> 
>  
> > Younger
> > ******
> > 
> > well, know me.... Dolph Lundgren, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Patrick Swayze
> > 
> > but, seriously
> > 
> > Harrison Ford
> > Sean Connery
> > Mel Gibson
> >
> 
> Pierce Brosnan (whatever happened to him)
> Michael J. Fox
> The guy who looks like Swayze and I can't remember his name right
> now ;-{).
> Bruce Willis (kinda ugly though)
> The 2 brothers one of whom played Jack Ryan in "Hunt for Red
> October" 

Alec and William Baldwin?

Armand Assante
Marc Singer (Beastmaster)
Miles O'Keefe (Bo Derek's Tarzan, wasn't he also in the Drifter?)
Franco Nero (From Camelot, and some B movies)

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Jim Heath

Sorry, I'm bored.  I just had to add more!

margaret again





























From: cn@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Needham)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:06:23 GMT
Subject: The Actors List (E-Ha) Part III of VII
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
From: ummorea0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gene Moreau)
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:01:55 GMT

In <8059@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:

>The TV Guide has an article this week about "zapping".
>In other words, channel scanning. 
>At our house we call our remote "the clicker".  Hand
>me "the clicker" is lots quicker than saying, "hand
>me the remote control", don't you think??   Hah!

Some friends of mine who used to play D&D alot called it the wand. 
Personally, most of the time I call it "The dammed, stupid, f#!king
remote", as in "Where in the hell is that dammed stupid f#!king remote
hiding now!?!".  


-- 
Gene Moreau                |"But he is a lawyer, the bottom feeders of human
University of Manitoba     | kindness."
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada |  - Scott Taylor, Sports writer for the Winnipeg
ummorea0@ccu.umanitoba.ca  |    Free Press.
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
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Subject: Re: Woody and Mia
Keywords: Gee, look at how many groups are getting this?
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:29:51 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <holly.174@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com> holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise) writes:
>I think he just molested the older (adult) one.

How to you molest an adult?  Either it's rape, or she was willing.

>However, since he obviously raised her since she was around 9, I
>think he's a total moron.

Gee.  I feel happy that I never liked him much beforehand...

>In Mia's shoes, I might be so angry  as to make the other accusations
>too, that's why I think it's only the one child he molested.

Considering that Mia's doctors found no evidence and Woody passed a
polygraph as well, I think she's just taking revenge by throwing
accusations about.

>I'm confident though that Woody will get what he deserves.
>The girl will obviously dump him

That's not my concern.  Rich famous fools making idiots of other rich
famous fools is the subject for humor.  I hope the girls don't wind up
injured by all this, but I couldn't care less about Woody and Mia.


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From: maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:32:58 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

In article <66102@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>
>She's an ACTOR???  Holy shit, that's news to me.
>Wait, or does PC now dictate that we call women actors so that it doesn't
>sound sexist (kinda like calling women in the the military sir)?
>


As someone else posted (sorry, hit the magic "n" button and couldn't
get it back!), the term "actor" is not gender specific...although it 
wasn't until recently that women took to the stage.  So, it is correct
to refer to Jodie Foster as an actor.  The reason that many women are
shunning the term "actress" is that it has some negative connotations.
Any bimbo with a walk-on can say, "Like, I'm an actress, you know?",
but not everyone is talented, accomplished, and ballsy enough to say,
"I'm an actor."  
Examples:

ACTOR                                      ACTRESS
Jodie Foster                               Carre Otis
Angelica Huston                            Paulina Porizkova
Emma Thompson                              Pia Zadora
Glenda Jackson                             Annette Funicello
Meryl Streep                               Sophia Coppola

I'm not sure where Jane Fonda belongs.........does "Barbarella"
count as acting?
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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:12:37 GMT

In <1992Aug8.072101.18733@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place) writes:

>In article <1992Aug7.194603.16995@cos.com>, cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper) writes...

>In the sense that it portrays events following those of GALLIPOLI, perhaps.
>But this doesn't make it a true sequel.
>But how can you mention GALLIPOLI without noticing that it isn't (and
>should be) on your list?

I noticed, I noticed - on any given day, I may just replace _G_ with _LH_,
but on the whole, I tend to think that _LightHorsemen_ is a better flick.
(You can always win me over with a good charge!)  Maybe I shouldn't have
said "ten best" - it was more like, ten very good war movies, representing,
hopefully, differing areas of history..... (I tried to include, middle
ages, naval, modern, etc. periods ) 


>THE KILLING FIELDS

A good one, but I don't know if I'd classify this as, technically, a
"war movie" (nit picky I know :> 

>THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI

truly one of the finest films - has the Criterion LD *really* been
cancelled? :<  

>THE BIG RED ONE

Very effective - Jerry, is a good LD version out (and, is it listed
in "wide screen movies"?) 

>PATTON

Got it! (CBS/Fox LB/LD - for $1 from columbia!) 

>ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT

I'm assuming you don't mean the Richard Thomas version :>  (although, that
had its moments - it can't compare to the original) 

gary cooper (not the dead one) 
working for, and speaking for, no one........
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From: ecbjkokegei@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: re:basic instinct ending **spoiler**
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:51:05 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide


*****************************************************
*********************SPOILER*************************
*****************************************************

I cant believe how dumb some people are!
When MD is reading the end of SS's Book I clearly read something about
how the cop ran up the stairs to the 3rd floor to find his partner dead.
Since this actually happens(the building is a 3 story), obviosly SS is either
the killer or a very very good psycic. Think about it.
I was disapointed by the fact that they had to blatently reveal this fact
in the final scene, when to anyone actually watching would have known SS was
the killer. But even this doesn't appear to have helped. some dumb idiots
couldn't even accept this. Perhaps for really dumb people the movie shouldn't
have ended so cryptically (sarcasm), but instead have a banner accross the
cinema saying 'SHARON STONE WAS THE KILLER'.
	 
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From: ansok@stsci.edu (Gary Ansok)
Subject: Re: Wayne's World Music Change
Reply-To: ansok@stsci.edu (Gary Ansok)
Organization: TRW, c/o Space Telescope Science Inst., Baltimore, MD
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:00:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.031901.24118@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis) writes:
>mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN) writes:
>: I just watched the release of "Wayne's World" and
>: noted that on the package for the movie it said
>: "Some music has been changed for this videocasette".
>: Notably the scene that involved the song "Stairway
>: to Heaven" had been altered.  Does anyone know
>: the reason behind this?
>
>Not positive but I would think that the small amount of Stairway he
>played in the film infringed on the copyright of the song.  So they
>changed it so that they wouldn't have to pay royalties.
>Didn't notice any other music that was altered thought.

Why do movie producers *still* not arrange for all the needed rights
to the songs they use?  It's easy to dismiss changes in an older
movie by saying that no one expected the home video market to boom
like it did, and that contracts were written without home video
in mind, but recent movies have no such excuse.

Is it extreme cheapness on the part of the producers trying to cut
every corner in making a film, and expecting that they can get away
with less quality in a video release?  I think they're wrong, and that
a film is more likely to be remembered nowadays based on its video
release rather than the theatrical version.  It's especially
inexcusable as, in the case of _Wayne's World_, there is a specific
song used (and referred to) in the movie for a reason.

Or are the musicians asking exorbitant demands for royalties, as if
they expect those four notes of "Stairway to Heaven" to result in
a dropoff in album sales?  :-)

I suspect it's producers not taking video seriously -- that they
really don't care what the video version looks & sounds like, and
they either consider video revenue insignificant, or they think
people won't notice and the revenue will come in anyway.  (I think
they're wrong on both counts, IMHO).

Question:  When _Wayne's World_ is released in Europe (has that
happened yet?), will the "Stairway to Heaven" notes be in it, or not?

Obviously there are producers out there who do care, and who will
not treat the video release as a second-class citizen.  But how
many of those are there?

Gary
-- 
Gary Ansok           ansok@stsci.edu
A second Flood, a simple famine, plagues of locusts everywhere,
Or a cataclysmic earthquake I'd accept with some despair.
But no...You sent us Congress.  Good God, Sir, was that fair?
From: rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Unforgiven Spoiler discussion
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:43:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tigana Restoration Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


	Of all the characters I'd like to have flesh out more in this
	fine film, I'd like to see more of Claire Munny.  After seening what
	Will Munny is capable of doing in full killing form, it must have taken
	a hell of a women to cure such a man.  

	Most of the characters who die, die underserved.  Especially
	the second cowboy, who didn't do the cutting, but die of a long
	agonizing death.  Also the deputy who was not quite killed by
	Will the first time in Greeley's.  The way Munny shot him cold
	blooded is really powerful.  Now onto the sort of deserving
	death.  The cowboy who did the cutting is unrepented onto the
	end.  Of all the death in this film, his is the most deserving.
	Also the pimp, who treats his whore less than horses, that is
	satisifying in a sickening way.

	Some one back a while mention that the score of the film is
	simply not quite as good as the rest of the film.  Well, the grand
	design of the film have a very sparse look to everything.  We don't see
	many items in the film.  We do see the wide open space of the country.
	The score, follow in this scheme as well.  Accompany, underscoring, but
	not overwhelm the visual aspect of the film.  This is done through
	subtle music. 
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Subject: Re: Wayne's World Music Change
From: conrad@actrix.gen.nz (Conrad Bullock)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:43:39 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Aug18.200009.9241@stsci.edu> ansok@stsci.edu (Gary Ansok) writes:
> In article <1992Aug18.031901.24118@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis) writes:
> >mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN) writes:
> >: I just watched the release of "Wayne's World" and
> >: noted that on the package for the movie it said
> >: "Some music has been changed for this videocasette".
> >: Notably the scene that involved the song "Stairway
> >: to Heaven" had been altered.  Does anyone know
> >: the reason behind this?
> >
> >Not positive but I would think that the small amount of Stairway he
> >played in the film infringed on the copyright of the song.  So they
> >changed it so that they wouldn't have to pay royalties.
> >Didn't notice any other music that was altered thought.
> 
> Why do movie producers *still* not arrange for all the needed rights
> to the songs they use?  It's easy to dismiss changes in an older
> movie by saying that no one expected the home video market to boom
> like it did, and that contracts were written without home video
> in mind, but recent movies have no such excuse.
> 
> ...
> 
> Question:  When _Wayne's World_ is released in Europe (has that
> happened yet?), will the "Stairway to Heaven" notes be in it, or not?

Well, I saw Wayne's World when I was visiting the US back in Feb/March.
The Stairway to Heaven notes were there alright (as everyone in the US
who saw it knows). When it came out in New Zealand, back in June, I went
and saw it again - and those notes weren't there - as someone stated,
he just played a generic-type 'riff'. It surprised me (I was SURE that
it wasn't like that - but I hadn't thought about it too much until this
discussion came up), and caused more than a little confusion when the
shop assistant points to the 'No Stairway to Heaven' sign.

Stuffed the scene no end....
From: jsd@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Steen Due)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Terminator/Franco Colombu
Date: 17 Aug 92 09:44:00 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:

>In article <1992Aug13.213113.1@woods.ulowell.edu> sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka) writes:
>>I believe we DO see the "other" terminator, in the first movie.  Remember
>>when Sarah and Kyle are hiding out in that cave or whatever?  It goes to a 
>>flashback when they show the humans making their way back into the bunker.
>>Kyle sits down and looks at Sarah's picture.  Someone yells "TERMINATOR !",
>>and we see another "model" come in with a large gun and proceeds to take 
>>apart most of the bunker.

>Isn't this the terminator that was played (so to speak) by Franco
>Columbu?  The downsized model?

That is absolutly correct - but I guess Franco would be pretty upset
if he knew ypu called him the downsized model; he did win the Mr. Olympia
two times. Franco and Arnold goes back a long time, back to the sixties
where they were training partners.

/Jacob

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From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Unforgiven (Spoilers)
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:42:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley) writes:
> about snow ...

Since they filmed in Canada that must have been what the weather was
actually like on those days.  Shooting on location makes it hard to
script the weather.

>I also thought it was rather interesting how Eastwood, Freeman and the kid
>could so easily find the two guys who were responsible for slashing the girl at
>the beginning of the film.

While Eastwood recovered, Freeman and the kid had 3 days to find the
cowboys, plus they were probably getting info from the whorehouse -
probably a good source of info.  We don't know how long after Eastwood
recovered that they started shooting at the guys.

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com
They who give have all things; they who withhold have nothing.  
                      -- Hindu proverb
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: MPAA Ratings Trivia (was: Warriors)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:50:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.200201.10289@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.130503.29087@nic.umass.edu> a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) writes:
>>
>>I remember the
>>flap over The Warriors getting the X rating.  Today it would get an R
>>with no sweat.  
>
>Is this the film about New York youth gangs?  I remember seeing it when it
>first came out and could swear it was R, or maybe even "M".  They used to 
>have an M rating ('Mature'), that was replaced by PG13, presumeably because
>parents were keeping their children away from films rated 'M'.

"The Warriors" was released with an R rating.  It caused a great deal
of fuss because there was some gang violence at some screenings of the
film.

By the time "The Warriors" came out, the M rating was gone, replaced by
GP.  Eventually, GP was replaced by PG, which still survives.  PG13 was
added a few years ago to offer somewhat more differentiation between
films that weren't suitable for even the littlest moppets (G) and films
that featured heavy doses of sex, nudity, violence, or profanity (R).
"Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom", which was rated PG, was the
film that caused the uproar leading to the establishment of the PG13
rating.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis)
Subject: Re: Wayne's World Music Change
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:19:01 GMT

mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN) writes:
:
: I just watched the release of "Wayne's World" and
: noted that on the package for the movie it said
: "Some music has been changed for this videocasette".
: Notably the scene that involved the song "Stairway
: to Heaven" had been altered.  Does anyone know
: the reason behind this?

Not positive but I would think that the small amount of Stairway he
played in the film infringed on the copyright of the song.  So they
changed it so that they wouldn't have to pay royalties.
Didn't notice any other music that was altered thought.

George Cifrancis
gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org
From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: AFTER HOURS (was HEAD-less)
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:46:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes) writes:

[HEAD cut off]
>AFTER HOURS is one of my all-time faves, and IMHO that performance defines
>Teri Garr.  She hasn't been that lovably wacky before nor since.
>
>Anyone else think that was an outstanding film?  Catherine Whats-her-name
>from SCTV was wicked as the Mr. Softee vigilante!

It's Catherine O'Hara, a very funny "actor". AFTER HOURS is one of my
favorite comedies too...a real "comedy noir" - Scorsese's lghter side?

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SPOILER QUESTION FOLLOWS
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BTW the rumor is that the original ending had Cheech and Chong just driving
off into the night, but that was deemed too gloomy for the general public, so
they reshot to have Griffin Dunnedefinitely survive....can anyone confirm/deny?
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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Subject: Re: Actresses in Wayne's World
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 07:13:14 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd.: The Danes Call It Quality


burchard1@llnl.gov (Letha L. Burchard) writes:

Letha> After recently viewing Wayne's World for the first time, I had
Letha> a question about the actress who played Wayne's "mental"
Letha> ex-girlfriend (I can't remember the name of the actress or the
Letha> character).  She looked very familiar to me, and I was
Letha> wondering if she is the same woman who plays Eve on Northern
Letha> Exposure?

Try TWIN PEAKS -- Lara Flynn Boyle, who played Donna.

Letha> Also, my friend noticed the name Ione Skye scrolling past on
Letha> the credits as having played a character named "Elyse", but
Letha> neither of us remember a character in the movie called Elyse.
Letha> Could anyone please tell me who Elyse was in the movie?

Ione Skye (of SAY ANYTHING fame) was in the opening scene, cuddling up
in bed and channel-flipping with Rob Lowe.


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From: merlyn@digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy)
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct ENDING - actually t2 also...geez
Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, Eden Prairie, MN
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:49:13 GMT

bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:
>In article <1992Aug5.163453.14461@husc3.harvard.edu> fenick1@husc10.harvard.edu (Sharon Fenick) writes:
>>Um...believe it or not there are those people out here who are waiting
>>to see t2 the same way you are waiting to see basic instinct.  I think you
>>just proved the point of everyone who said "lay off," and might i personally
>>ask you to please practice what you preach.

>I hope you're being facetious. There's a huge difference between discussing
>a movie which everyone has had the opportunity to see and a new one.

No there isn't; use the usual spoiler warnings and don't put spoilers
in subject lines, or get flamed from here to Ohio.  People get flamed
for talking about 50-year-old movies without spoiler warnings.

---
Merlyn LeRoy