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From: edwardd@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: natural fish poisons
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:36:26 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <10758933.5.726719154@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 
10758933@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (BRUCE GIBBENS) writes:
> Here is an interesting bit of info that I recently picked up on a sojourn
> into the interior of Australia, with an army unit of mine.
> 
> Australian aborigines use the crushed bark of  the 'EMU APPLE' tree to
> take out the oxygen in still bodies of water.  The fish then float upside 
> down on the surface where they are collected.  
> 	I wonder if a company will ever market this stuff, in distilled or 
> synthetic form.
> 	My unit was unable to find this relatively rare tree, but found  the
> very 20th century method of lobbing in detonators equally effective, and 
> somewhat more fun.
> 	cheerio!
> 	A wizard in oz.

The American Indians used the crushed leaves of the common Mullien plant
to temporarily incapacitate fish. Hm, now that I look it up though, Mullien
was an introduced species...

At any rate, most states here outlaw mass poisoning of fish, though
the fish and game departments electrocute them when they take a census
of a body of water.


ed
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: jwh2@cornell.edu (James W. Howell)
Subject: mail-order houses
Nntp-Posting-User: @cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:54:05 GMT

I'd say BASS-PRO Shops has the best, and widest selection for any type of 
fishing....
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: aharveyp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (A.J.Harvey-Perry)
Subject: Re: US equivalent of UK's "Trout & Salmon"
Organization: AT&T NS UK,- Malmesbury,England
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:20:01 GMT

>Your Dad fishes in the UK and Scotland? I'm about to go over to UK for a year.
>Do you or anyone else know how much it costs to fish for trout in the UK? I
>have heard ugly rumours that the cost is several thousand pounds. In New
>Zealand an annual licence costs NZ $55 (about 18 pounds) and you have
>guaranteed access to all rivers, more or less.
>

The cost of fishing in England does not go into the thousands. You can 
fish for trout one of two ways. Apply for a river license (depending which
river you intend to fish on) or subscribe to some lakes for a year.
If I was you I would opt for both but stick to the rivers more than the
lakes. The lakes can get pretty expensive (in comparison to the chalk streams)
A river license is certianly alot cheaper. The big rule about trout fishing
in the U.K is PLAN first. The number of trout has declined over recent years
(although rivers are starting to pick up again).
If you need any more info before you go send me an E-mail. - A.J.Harvey-Perry.
From: whitbeck@snowlake.unr.edu (Mike Whitbeck)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: What new innovation, software or products do you want to see?
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:10:27 GMT
Reply-To: whitbeck@snowlake.unr.edu (Mike Whitbeck)
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <C0Gwot.Lut@agora.rain.com> robart@agora.rain.com (Joe Bob) writes:
>In article <sehari.726196537@lisa.ecss.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>>
>>What type of new innovation, software or products do you want to be
>>introduced to the market place.  No answer is stupid.  The things
>
>
>  Beats me.  In fact, I didn't even know anybody was putting out
>fishing software.

Oh my yes. I use PC-TROUT-1.2 in place of sonar based fishfinders.

It comes in 3.5" and 5.25" format and is compatible across the board with
'086, '286, '386 and even '486 with SVGA, etc. It takes maximum advantage
of an onboard math chip as well. 

Very easy yo use. Insert diskette in drive,
then execute trout.bat or bass.bat (according to your interests!).
Heave the PC overboard (in at least 8 feet of water).

Within minutes the fish gather around the boat/dock to see who or what
would buy a PC in the first place.

[ Also works in ford-spark coil mode in case you want to telephone the fish
to the surface... requires extra extension cord (not included) for this 
feature].

Disclaimer: I don't work for PC-TROUT, just a satisfied user!


Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: jab@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Alan Barrow)
Subject: Re: Need recommendations on the fishing in Florida
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:51:14 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta

In <2309@lunic.luth.se> rikard@dc.luth.se (Rikard Stenberg) writes:

>Hi!

>Is there any good flats etc. which one can reach by car and
>walking where there is a reasonably chance of catching one of
>these "high speed monsters" on spinning or fly gear?

yes,

I have a posting somewhere that details several.

Two that come to mind are:
   
   Off Harry Harris park S. of Key Largo (above Tavernier)
   Nice public access. Parking

   Near Indian/Shell key near Islamarada. (close to Teatable bridge)
   Park near bridge.

   Large Flat just north of Whale Harbor (Between Islamarada &
   Tavernier. (May have to walk through a Hotel pk lot to get to it.)

Many of these places may not be obvious, but are in the Fla Upper Keys.

If needed I can give you more specific details.

Have fun!

 Alan Barrow  km4ba | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack
 jab@atl.hp.com     | ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched
                    | C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
 ..!gatech!kd4nc!   | All those moments will be lost in time -
         km4ba!alan | like tears in rain. Time to die.          Roy Batty
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: psjoblom@leland.Stanford.EDU (Leif Sjoblom)
Subject: Fish finders (correction)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 19:46:08 GMT

I'm trying to locate a company called Bottom Line or Pro Fish (one is 
the company, the other is their trade mark. I don't know which 
way it works). They make fish-finders (this is for my father-in-law. 
He is interested in a device called Bottom Line Tournament 360 Scanner). 
The only information I have is that the production facilities are in 
Idaho. 

I have tried listings of the 50,000 largest private & public companies 
in the U.S. Any suggestions how to locate the company are appreciated.

Thanks,
Leif Sjoblom
PSJOBLOM@GSB-YEN.STANFORD.EDU
From: ai820@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Liddle)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Fishing Rod & Reel holder.
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:52:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Has anybody seen a  Rod and Reel holder which can be used to protect
these things while hiking and when packed in a car.  The holder should
allow the Reel to be attached to the rod so that it can be used 
instantly.  It might also be nice if the holder held some tackle such
as pliers, lures, and such.  IT could be made of any material which
could protect the rod-most likely a hard plastic.
Obviously, the issues here are portability, protection, and convenience.

Any knowledge of where to purchase such a product would be helpful.  I

Thanks.
From: s31759m@taltta.hut.fi (Harri Ilmari Huuskonen)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Need help/recommendations on mail-order company
Date: 4 Jan 1993 14:31:56 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: taltta.hut.fi

Here's two for starters:

Bass Pro Shops
1935 S. Campbell
Springfield MO 65898
Tel: 1-417-8871915 (US only 800-2277776)

Cabela's
812 13th Avenue
Sidney NE 69160
Tel: 1-308-2345555 (US only 800-2374444)
Fax: 1-308-2542200

Some time ago I posted a question about this... I got some
30 addresses but I think these two are the largest ones.
I've only used Cabela's. After 3 or 4 orders I have had
no problems whatsoever.



*  Harri Huuskonen   Email:  hhuuskon@otax.tky.hut.fi                  *
*  A member of POKA (Finnish Univ. of Technology Angling Association)  *
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: 10758933@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (BRUCE GIBBENS)
Subject: natural fish poisons
Keywords: death
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:25:54 GMT

Here is an interesting bit of info that I recently picked up on a sojourn
into the interior of Australia, with an army unit of mine.

Australian aborigines use the crushed bark of  the 'EMU APPLE' tree to
take out the oxygen in still bodies of water.  The fish then float upside 
down on the surface where they are collected.  
	I wonder if a company will ever market this stuff, in distilled or 
synthetic form.
	My unit was unable to find this relatively rare tree, but found  the
very 20th century method of lobbing in detonators equally effective, and 
somewhat more fun.
	cheerio!
	A wizard in oz.
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: john.ferguson@rose.com (john ferguson)
Subject: What new innovation,
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 07:34:54 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 01-09-93 02:33
S(> What type of new innovation, software or products do you want to be
  > introduced to the market place.  No answer is stupid.  The things
  > that might be unachievable to you, might be very easy to produce
  > by others.  You could become part of history by initiating the process of
  > innovation.

S(> Send your answers, along with it's possible applications to me via
  > Email.  We might be able to produce things that you might never thought
  > possible, for you. My Email Address is sehari@iastate.edu.



I don't really think it is a good idea for people to reply to this without
having some protection in writing from you. After all (although I am not
saying you would do this) there is nothing stopping you from using there
idea without any compensation to them.


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From: david@joshua.eushc.org (C. David Cooke)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Fishing on the Georgia Coast
Date: 8 Jan 1993 14:31:33 GMT
Organization: Emory University School of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: david@joshua.eushc.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: 163.246.192.15

Hello all:

A friend of mine and I are planning a fishing trip to the Georgia Coast in mid to late
February, and I was wondering if anyone could offer suggestions for fishing spots.
We will have a 15' tri-hull to motor about in, and we would like to stay around the
St. Simons area.  I have heard that the Altamaha (sp?) Sound and River are excellent
fishing spots, especially for large Redfish - are there other spots to try?  Is there
a better winter time to go instead of February?  What kinds of fish are likely to be
"running" this time of year?

Thanks in advance for the info, post/email is ok.


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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: jmd@kastle.Princeton.EDU (John M. Danskin)
Subject: Re: natural fish poisons
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: jmd@kastle.Princeton.EDU (John M. Danskin)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Princeton University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:34:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.083626.20823@yang.earlham.edu>,
edwardd@yang.earlham.edu writes:
|> At any rate, most states here outlaw mass poisoning of fish, though
|> the fish and game departments electrocute them when they take a census
|> of a body of water.

Please! They electroSHOCK them. The idea is to take a non-destructive census.
While I am sure this is traumatic, I'd rather have my census taken by a fish
and game department that has it's Phasers set on stun than a fish and
game department that has it's Phasers set on deep-fat-fry.


BTW: while I'm posting, the nitwit who posted his innovation message to all of 
the usenet groups can't possibly be reading them all, so it doesn't make sense
to post articles to this group as if he might read them.


John Danskin			|
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Fishing Rod & Reel holder.
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:11:16 GMT

the only holders i have seen were hollow tubes. (plastic)
you could always try a rifle bag.
good luck. 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
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 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
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From: rikard@dc.luth.se (Rikard Stenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Need help/recommendations on mail-order company
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:33:06 GMT
Organization: University of Lulea, Sweden

Hi!

Does anyone know of  any reliable mail-order  company in the
states with low prices? I'm interested in equipment for both
fresh and saltwater fishing.

Many thanks in advance!

Rikard
-----------------------------------------------------------
Rikard Stenberg (rikard@dc.luth.se)
Macintosh expert - Consultancy and training
University of Lulee
Sweden
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: kevin@turbo.Columbia.NCR.COM (Kevin Ormerod)
Subject: Re: natural fish poisons
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:38:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.101846.24299@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> keith@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM (Keith Boyd) writes:
>>
>>At any rate, most states here outlaw mass poisoning of fish, though
>>the fish and game departments electrocute them when they take a census
>>of a body of water.
>
>True, but the voltage and current used is only enough to stun the fish
>temporarily. The prods are mounted on the front of a boat and they 
>are positioned a few feet apart. When fish get near the prods, they will
>start swimming in circles (usually) up to the top of the water where they
>are counted.

Actually,  Here in South Carolina (according to publications available
free of charge to the public), the Wildlife department uses Rotenone (sp?)
to kill all fish in predefined coves in certain lakes on a specific
annual schedule to determine fish populations.  They also electroshock
and use a special Trawler.  I don't know what each method is most suited
for.  


Xref: sparky alt.fishing:3238 rec.outdoors.fishing:1609
From: rikard@dc.luth.se (Rikard Stenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Need recommendations on the fishing in Florida
Date: 10 Jan 93 10:16:23 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fishing
Organization: University of Lulea, Sweden

Hi!

I have been thinking of going to Florida on a short (one or two
weeks) vacation. As I am a devoted sport-fisherman I would like
to try some of the local game-fishing, try to catch tarpon,
bonefish, permit, barracuda etc.......

The problem is that, although the professional fishing guides are
probably good - it cost quite a bundle to hire one...... :-(

Is there any good flats etc. which one can reach by car and
walking where there is a reasonably chance of catching one of
these "high speed monsters" on spinning or fly gear?

Any recommendations and suggestions will be appreciated!

Many thanks in advance!

/Rikard
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Macintosh expert, consultancy and training
University of Lulee
Sweden
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From: censwm@cend3c7.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Stuart W Munn)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: US equivalent of UK's "Trout & Salmon"
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:17:51 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1993Jan7.202001.11446@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, aharveyp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (A.J.Harvey-Perry) writes:
|> >Your Dad fishes in the UK and Scotland? I'm about to go over to UK for a year.
|> >Do you or anyone else know how much it costs to fish for trout in the UK? I
|> >have heard ugly rumours that the cost is several thousand pounds. In New
|> >Zealand an annual licence costs NZ $55 (about 18 pounds) and you have
|> >guaranteed access to all rivers, more or less.
|> >
|> 
Rules differ for Scotland.

In general you can fish for trout in rivers free! Although this is changing, owners of fishing rights are now grouping themselves and applying to the secretery of state for " protection orders" this allows them to charge for trout fishing in rivers. The idea was to stop hoards of anglers descending on the larger rivers in Scotland and cleaning them out of trout. I think what really was happening was that the owners of the Salmon and sea trout fishings did not want people fishing for free!

Anyway, loch fishing is different, you need a licence for this, these are usually available from local hotels or tackle shops. Costs vary, but certainly never in the thousands of pounds! usually less than 10 pounds per day for trout.

There is no concept of a national rod licence in Scotland. The Scottish Tourist Board in Edinburgh can supply lots of info  address: SCottish Tourist Board, 4 Ravelston Terrace, Edinburgh, Scotland, phone 44 31 332 2433.

Stuart Munn.
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: eng10165@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAY CHOON SENG)
Subject: Re: fish food
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:33:25 GMT

sajfewoi

ZZ

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: keith@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM (Keith Boyd)
Subject: Re: natural fish poisons
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:18:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.083626.20823@yang.earlham.edu> edwardd@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>In article <10758933.5.726719154@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 
>10758933@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (BRUCE GIBBENS) writes:
>> Here is an interesting bit of info that I recently picked up on a sojourn
>> into the interior of Australia, with an army unit of mine.
>> 
>> Australian aborigines use the crushed bark of  the 'EMU APPLE' tree to
>> take out the oxygen in still bodies of water.  The fish then float upside 
>> down on the surface where they are collected.  
>> 	I wonder if a company will ever market this stuff, in distilled or 
>> synthetic form.
>> 	My unit was unable to find this relatively rare tree, but found  the
>> very 20th century method of lobbing in detonators equally effective, and 
>> somewhat more fun.
>> 	cheerio!
>> 	A wizard in oz.
>
>The American Indians used the crushed leaves of the common Mullien plant
>to temporarily incapacitate fish. Hm, now that I look it up though, Mullien
>was an introduced species...
>
>At any rate, most states here outlaw mass poisoning of fish, though
>the fish and game departments electrocute them when they take a census
>of a body of water.
>
>
>ed

True, but the voltage and current used is only enough to stun the fish
temporarily. The prods are mounted on the front of a boat and they 
are positioned a few feet apart. When fish get near the prods, they will
start swimming in circles (usually) up to the top of the water where they
are counted.


Keith


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Xref: sparky alt.fishing:3226 rec.outdoors.fishing:1601
From: rikard@dc.luth.se (Rikard Stenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Marlin fishing on video
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:05:59 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fishing
Organization: University of Lulea, Sweden

Hi!

I have  decided  to  buy  one or  two  video-films  with big-game
fishing after marlin.

My problem is  which film to  buy. Can anyone  recommend any good
action-packed title's and  where to order  them (fax-number would
be great!)? Preferably  without clearly faked  sequences but with
some tactics, but the most important aspect is ACTION....

Many thanks in advance!

/Rikard
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Macintosh expert, consultancy and training
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Sweden
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: plheron@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: natural fish poisons
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:05:58 GMT

Although it is (in many states) illegal to poison fish, I have noticed 
that often throwing lures in the vacinity of fish can often put 
them in a lethargic near death state in which they move little and 
feed less!

			-Pat.
		    

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: eng10165@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAY CHOON SENG)
Subject: fish food
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:27:16 GMT










this is just an experiment for my trw project.

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: psjoblom@leland.Stanford.EDU (Leif Sjoblom)
Subject: Fish finders
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 19:08:19 GMT

I'm trying to locate a company called Bottom Line. They make 
fish-finders (this is for my father-in-law. He is interested in 
a device called Bottom Line Tournament 360 Scanner). The only 
information I have is that the production facilities are in 
Idaho. 

Any suggestions how to locate the company are appreciated.

Thanks,
Leif Sjoblom
PSJOBLOM@GSB-YEN.STANFORD.EDU
From: bugsy@theoasis.Corp.Sun.COM )
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Petite Clothes
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:16:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bugsy@theoasis.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: theoasis.corp.sun.com


I would like to get a discussion going about clothing proportions.
I'm about 5'5" and short waisted.  I've noticed when I've tried on
desinger outfits- suits, blazer etc. from DKNY or Calvin Klein-
the blazer fits long and the skirts or pants fits this way also.
My mother who is a little shorter than I, preaches the benefits
of wearing petite clothes. I on the other hand like young-modern
styles that are prevelant in Macys JR dpt.  It seems that most of
the petite clothes I've come across are matronly or too small for
my med-large frame.  I have a couple of questions..

Do most designers tailor clothes for the 5'7" long waisted women??
Should petite frames shy away from these type of clothes?? 
(If you tailored these items- it usually looks botched)
Can women under 5'5" wear the long flowing gowns that are in style now??

Lavonne
Newsgroups: alt.fashion