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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park Spoiler (almost)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 13:18:26 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Nov16.155937.19527@linus.mitre.org> sdo@linus.mitre.org (Sean D. O'Neil) writes:
>In article <1e0rp0INNnd7@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov13.143829.27464@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) writes:
>>
>>>  If you like Jurassic Park, try Crichton's other books.  I highly recommend
>>>"Sphere", "Congo", "The Great Train Robbery", "Eaters of the Dead", "The
>>>Andromeda Strain", and his latest bestseller (which would also make a GREAT
>>>movie) "Rising Sun".  All excellent reads.
>
>I beg to differ, slightly.  In my opinion, Crichton's writing has gone
>distinctly downhill over time.  His best book was Andromeda Strain,
>closely followed by Eaters of the Dead, the Great Train Robbery, and
>The Terminal Man.  His later stuff (Sphere, Congo, Jurassic Park)
>has interesting elements, but the overall effect (inluding
>characterization) is, in my opinion, lacking in ways that his
>earlier works were not.  I have not read "Rising Sun".

	You might not want to.  I think it will work well as a movie, but as a
book it was only just better than Sphere.  And even though the characters were
a bit flat in Jurassic Park, I think that this was at least in part deliberate,
that he was trying to create an old-fashioned pulp adventure story.

						-Jay
From: mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Help settle a stupid bet over War of the Roses.
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:14:00 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp.


-- 
In article <19395@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, cccsims@it-cap-39.ucdavis.edu (Jonathan Sims) writes:
|> 
|> 
|>    Due to my V.C.R. being stolen not to long ago I can`t just rent War of the
|> Roses to settle the bet myself. That said, the bet is:  I say Turner shrugged
|> Douglas off at the very end of the movie but my friend thinks that Douglas
|> shruged Turner off (by the end I mean when they die).  Thanks..
|> 
|> Jonathan Sims
|> Unix/VMS consultant, U.C. Davis Information Technologies
|> jlsims@ucdavis.edu
|> cccsims@hamlet.ucdavis.edu


Turner shrugged Douglas off--she didn't want him to touch her, even
in death!  I remember it distinctly; it was the bitterest, yet funniest
moment for me in the movie.

Then again, I'm strange.

--
Maria E. Douglas	(408) 765-4728		    
Intel Corporation	mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com  

No quote.  Not today.  I've said enough already.

I don't speak for Intel, either.
From: terra@reed.edu (Terra Goodnight)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Malcolm X controversies
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:31:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov16.203141.9077
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <=qt1x1_@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:
>I heard that some people are protesting against the opening of X.  Any
>one know why?

One protest isn't over the movie, exactly, but the showing of it:

Apparently in Portland Oregon, Act III theatre chain has refused to open
the movie in its Lloyd Center location (the large theatre outlet near a
predominantly-black neighborhood).  They claim the movie will eventually
be shown there, but not premiered.  People in the community protested this
decision to the point that the theatre backed down and decided to show it 
after all.  Well, as it turns out, the people protesting have decided they
*STILL* will not patronize Act III theatres, and are going to either see it
at the local art flik place (Cinema 21) or go to nearby Vancouver Washington
to see the movie.  Personally, I think this is awesome, and I support them. 

I don't live in Portland anymore, but here in L.A. we've got the same problem
in Westwood.  It's your typical affluent white shopping district with most
of the better movie theatres, and was the location of the "disturbance" when
New Jack City sold out opening night.  I guess the local merchants are nervous
about having the opening there (especially since with only one showing per night
there will be a lot of people turned away).  I'm glad Westwood, unlike Portland,
decided to show the movie anyway. 

Terra
From: darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: My opinion of Under Siege(possible spoilers).
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:25:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: eagle.1e974mINNmiu
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
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In article <1992Nov14.185151.4125@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu > shinh@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Shinjiro Hirose) writes:
 >In article <1du7nlINN3qc@eagle.natinst.com> darrenl@natinst.com 
 >(Darren Lilie) writes:
 >
 >>much time to "cook" the "homemade bomb" that he put in the microwave.
 >>I mean that the buzzer happen to go off right before the bomb exploded and
 >>there happen to be several of the terrorists in the room at the time.
 >
 >
 >I guess you didn't remember that the bad guys had turn the circuit
 >breaker on when they came into the kitchen.  Segal had set the 
 >microwave to go on when the power came back. (It must have been
 >one of those old one with the timer dial...)  That's how he made\
 >sure they'd be in the room when the bomb went off...
 >-Shin
 > 
The microwave made a beeping sound which is not found on the old microwaves.
It is found on the newer pushbutton microwaves.  The ones with the "dial" on 
them just "ding" or make a buzzing sound.  Therefore when the electricity 
goes off and then back on you have lost whatever settings you put on it.
If I remember correctly the microwave had a blue digital readout on it.

Darren 
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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: BSD (Dracula) - Who to root for? (SPOILERS)
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:48:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.100706.24538@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, aberman@cs.washington.edu (Andrew Berman) writes:
|> In article <Ef1nhiO00WBN46GYEY@andrew.cmu.edu> wp11+@andrew.cmu.edu (W
|> Darren Prouty) writes: >
|> > I managed to catch Coppola's film of Bram Stokers Dracula opening
|> >night with a packed house and must say that it had some of the best
|> >cinematography I've seen in years. However, the movie had one huge
|> >fault, there was no definite protagonist or antagonist.
|>   ...  
|> > Coppola, what gives? 
|> 
|> 
|>  Why should a movie have a definite protagonist or antagonist?  Or
|> rather, why should every writer pick two people, set one up as
|> protagonist, set the other up as antagonist, and then start writing?
|> I've read many reviews of Bram Stoker's Dracula, here on the net, and
|> in the papers.  All the negative reviews have one common fault-- they
|> refused to look at the movie on its own terms.  The movie is a
|> exploration on what is good and what is evil, desire versus godliness,
|> life versus death.

(EXCELLENT CRITICAL REVIEW DELETED)

|> 
|> This is one of the best and most complex movies I've seen in years.
|> But you really have to forget everything you've been conditioned to "expect"
|> in a movie.
|> 
|> Andrew Berman
|> 

Bravo, Andrew, Bravo! I'm damn tired of hearing these whiners pick apart Coppola's
film ("But Madame Curie wasn't famous in 1897..." et al.) when it is obviously
greatly superior to any Vampire film since 1932's "Vampyre." Some of these morons
seem to be complaining because the movie has sympathetic anti-hero instead of a
caped cliche; while others complain because "it's not the way I would
have made the movie." I can't believe some have actually complained about Dracula
changing forms TOO MANY TIMES! Gee, Dracula's only taken multiple forms in
every movie since Lugosi's 1931 version.

Take the movie on it's own terms, not yours! By any intelligent standards,
Coppola's Dracula is an excellent film. Turning Dracula into a tragic, even
Byronic, hero is not easy by any means, and I dare say it is beyond the
capability of anyone reading this net!

Anthony
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mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.162332.21387@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, awalsh@mta.ca
>(Andrew Walsh) wrote:
>
>> This is a GOOD MOVIE. Don't let people tell you it's a total waste
>> of money, go see it for yourself. And those of you who were distracted
>> by Keanu's performance, or anything else you didn't like, try it again
>> and ignore those problems. It's a visionary piece.
>
>I agree.
>----------

   Ahh, I disagree.   It was _alright_, but not really worth the money.
   Fortunately, I saw it for free.

   It is heavy handed, not at all scary, and the soundtrack and accents
   obscure the dialogue so much that you can't tell what is going on
   sometimes.

   I love good movies, and I easily lose myself in films, but I did not
   lose myself in this one.

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From: dianne@dianne.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dianne Ferrans)
Subject: Re: Dracula mistake maybe
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:01:29 GMT

In article <Bxu8D1.LxG@inews.Intel.COM>, mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ) writes:
|> 
|> -- 
|> Elizabeth Levy writes:
|> 
|> 	I thought this was intentional.  His hair turns grey when confronting
|> 	Dracula directly, and reverts when they are no longer facing each
|> 	other (though not all the way to black).  They are supposed to be
|> 	contrasted with each other (since both are in love with Mina), and
|> 	Harker is in some sense more pallid than the Count (the former being a
|> 	proper Victorian gentleman, the latter being a virile foreigner).  The
|> 	hair perhaps emphasizes this point.
|> 
|> Someone else mentioned this "intentionality" as well.  For me, it's too
|> goofy; it carries symbolism of some sort that is overly contrived.  
|> 
|> M-
|> --
|> Maria E. Douglas	(408) 765-4728		    
|> Intel Corporation	mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com  
|> 
|> No quote.  Not today.  I've said enough already.
|> 

|> I don't speak for Intel, either.
SPOILER



I took it that when the gypsie women sucked his blood, they also
took some of his youth. (i.e. so THEY stay young) AFTER the gypsie
women are beheaded, his hair turns back, in the same way that
Mina is reverted, the cross, .etc. when dracula dies.
From: kmgettle@ualr.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: HELP! I'm in a "Time Warp" *RHPS*
Date: 15 Nov 92 14:39:20 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

I have been deprived!!!!  Help me! 
I live in Little Rock, Arkansas and cannot find The Rocky Horror 
Picture Show shown in a theater anywhere!!!!
If anyone knows of a place near that actually shows it and allows particpation
please tell me.


Thank you,  


Olivia
I'm stuck in a time warp!
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From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Re: Malcolm X controversies
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:10:49 GMT
Distribution: na 


>In article <=qt1x1_@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:

>>I heard that some people are protesting against the opening of X.  Any
>>one know why?
>
Because there are alot of ignorant, small-minded people out there
who believe that just because a film is made about African Americans
that some sort of violence or "trouble" will be incited if the film
is shown.  There are also some people objecting to the flag burning
and Rodney King beating shown at the beginning of the film.  Perhaps
they just cannot stand being faced with the reality of the society
they live in and they prefer to maintain the illusion of their
own little "sheltered" world.  Either way, I think it is reprehensible
that where or how often ANY movie is shown would be determined by the
ethnicity of the actors involved or by issues addressed in the movie
that are "less than comfortable" to the general public.  This is
censorship, plain and simple.

Just my 2 cents . . .

Kris

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From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Re: Dracula - Francis Ford Coppola
Organization: QUAD Systems
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:24:49 GMT

In article <Bxyzx1.LwJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> vaughan@fe744.cc.purdue.edu (jake vaughan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.174824.9672@athena.mit.edu> eprice@sybase.com writes:
>>from SUSPIRIA) but still, it's becoming very annoying that it is
>>impossible to see so many films the way they were intended to be in a
>>theater, on the Big Screen (at least in the United States).
>>Laserdiscs are ok but can't compare to the real thing.
>
>Laserdiscs are 'OK`!?  Yes, it is true that nothing can compare with seeing a film on a big screen but the quality that your getting from watching a laserdisc 
>far outweighs what your getting in most theatres.  Contrary to what most 
>believe, most theatres don't have Surround sound.  Yes, they do have 
>"multi-channel stereo," and the speakers _do_ surround you, but this is not 
>surround sound.  Finally, the picture quality on a laserdisc is far better 
>then anything that you willl see in a movie theatre.  Take it from me, I have 
>done my homework and laserdisc quality surpasses anything I've ever seen.


NTSC provides a maximum resolution of about 480 visible lines (more for PAL)
while a photographic image (film, photo, etc.) has a pixel resolution
equivalent to 4000 lines or greater. You're not even close.

Also, try to newlines to terminate lines, will ya. 
-- 

Roland Besserer
QUAD Systems
roland@quadsys.com
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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Jurassic Park
Organization: Clark University
Date: 18 NOV 92 16:38:45 GMT

In a previous article, colint@spider.co.uk (Colin Tinto) wrote:
>I'm surprised Mr. Speilberg wasn't out filming it :-)
> 
>Just to get some footage he could undoubtedly use somewhere in a film :-)
> 
Kind of like Coppola being stuck in a Phillipine hurricane while filming 
Apocalypse Now.  I don't know if he used any hurricane footage itself, but he 
filmed some damage for the film.  See "Hearts of Darkness" for the whole 
story.  (Quick plug, awesome documentary)

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From: otruba@mitre.org (Steve Otruba)
Subject: Re: Final Approach; Did it show in theaters?
Organization: What me organized
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:49:36 GMT

In article <Bxsnqx.JoI@ais.org> lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent) writes:
>I first saw the trailer for this film on E! entertainment network.  I found
>it intriguing, though I only saw it once this summer.  After renting Black
>Robe, I saw it again among others in the 15 min. ad beginning that tape.
>This prompted me to rent it, and wonder if it ever played in theaters?
>Its major claim was the first all digitally processed soundtrack (or
>some such).
>
>Did anybody see it in a theater?  Was the sound all that great?
>
Leon...Final Approach did make it out into the theaters.  I went and
saw it at the Cinerama Dome in LA.  It was in the digital format that
seems to have gone by the wayside in favor of the Dolby Digital. As
for the movie...great sound, great visuals, so so plot...

SteveO

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From: Terri Buchman <buchman@osf.org>
Subject: Re: Dracula
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72E4F3B0A01080F@alimac5.osf.org>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:26:51 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:26:24 GMT

In article <26562@optima.cs.arizona.edu> Margaret Newman,
margaret@cs.arizona.edu writes:
>I have a question on vampires not having a reflection in mirrors. 
Wouldn't
>their clothes, hats, etc... show?  Or is it easier in film (movies,
tv)
>to just not show the entire person clothing and all?  This has
always
>puzzled me.  I think the clothing would show up, only the body
would lack
>a reflection.

The vampire cast no reflection because it has no soul.  Some
cultures believe that there is a spiritual link between a person and
the image that they cast.  The Amish dislike of having their picture
taken stems from the belief that when you take their image you take
a little piece of them, their souls, away.  Vampires are
anti-persons.  Their souls are sort of on hiatus while their bodies
continue to walk the earth.  The body alone without the light of the
soul does not reflect.  It is one of those ironies of the myth that
the creature that is all physicality has no real substance.

TerriB.
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Coppola's "Bram Stoker's Dracula"
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:57:59 GMT

In article <3219@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks240.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>
>    I was under the impression that Tom Waites played Renfield, but he
>is never mentioned in any of your reviews/comments. Is he in it? Is he
>good? Thank you.

Yes.  Yes.  They've dressed him up like Cain, from the Neil Gaiman
comic series, _Sandman_.



A cartoon found in last week's New Yorker:
Picture: Middle-aged man talking to another middle-aged man in a bar.
Caption: "I just heard that Superman is going to die.  He's the same
	  age I am!"
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From: mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie)
Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:50:03 GMT

Answering a question about years, Drowning By Numbers was produced
in 1987, but not released in the US til 1991, after Cook, Thief, etc.
hit it (relatively) big in 1989 or 90, depending on whether or not you
lived in a "big" city, or a little backwash town like Columbus,
Ohio! :-l

--Michael
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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: Dracula sucked
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:03:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.144642.28322@scott.skidmore.edu> dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter) writes:
>
>A quick scan of the Net shows that women liked this movie as a whole
>and men were critical.  The guy I saw it with agrees with you-he was bored.
>I really enjoyed it. :>

I saw Dracula with my two sisters and my sister-in-law. That's four
women, so I don't need to tell you what we thought of it. Thank God, my
brother didn't come along.

Feli.
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: new muppet movie
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 23:16:28 GMT

In article <21QT03wRbcrc00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
>eric.walker@channel1.com (eric walker) writes:
>
>}     The movie is THE MUPPET CHRISTMAS CAROL, and yes, Kermit is in it.  He
>}     plays the role of Bob Cratchit, with Robin as Tiny Tim.  One
>}     interesting bit of casting:  Scrooge is played by Michael Caine.
>
>I assume you mean that Michael Caine supplies the voice of Scrooge since,
>last time I looked, Mr. Caine was not himself a muppet.

All of the Muppet movies up to this point have featured the Muppets
performing with live actors.  So, for that matter, did their TV show.
I expect this movie will be the same, with Michael Caine appearing
beside Kermit & Co.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: gbradley@uks240.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula - you're just jealous!
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:01:27 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks240.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

In article <1992Nov17.113302.14277@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>,
bjbartlett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (I'm not really a doctor...) writes:
|>
|> I think all of you ripping on Dracula are T2 fans and are just
jealous Dracula
|>is going to make more moeny :)
|>
|>Bart
     
    Or are they annoyed because "Dracula" managed morphing-like effects
without resorting to the expense or technology required to pull it off
in T2?? :-)

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From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What I did on WIZARD
Date: 21 Nov 92 23:45:09 GMT
Reply-To: bwebster@pages.com
Organization: Banzai Research Institute

In article <1eldebINNrb4@gap.caltech.edu> jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike  
Jittlov) writes:
> Dana xxxxx asks:
> >So, what did Mike Jittlov actually DO in this WoSaT movie?
> >Other than "act", and take credit for everybody else's jobs
> 
> Well...just listing the industrially-recognized occupations
> currently clogging modern movie credits (and eliminating most
> assistant duties and many fields that I consider duplicative):
> 
> 
>                  "THE WIZARD OF SPEED AND TIME"
> 
>     List of Jobs Worked by Mike Jittlov to Create the Feature
> 
> [Enormous and impressive list deleted]
> 

And a great movie it was! (Do you happen to sell copies? I saw it via a copy  
rented from a video store up in Santa Cruz.) I also enjoyed the dark nasties in  
"Ghost".  

So, what have you done lately?   ;-)    ..bruce..

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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Cheesy monsters (was Re: Brief review of Dracula)
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:56:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

>drwho@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann) writes:
>>Ok, all you folks out there in net land, what movies have you seen that 
>>featured a monster which doesn't look "cheesy"?  (Sounds like the Subject 
>>line of another unending thread to me!:-)

	Forbidden Planet.

--
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