From: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Islam Preaching Equality
Date: 18 Dec 1992 10:29:37 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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Keywords: spend some time  with your bretheren starving in Bengal.....


In article <1992Dec18.032600.28614@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:

> To me, interpreting Islam on a forum like SCP is tantamount to hypocrisy
> of an extreme order. Pakistan has issues, problems and challenges
> that Pakistanis of muslim, hindu, christian and parsee  religions
> need to participate in.  

I'm sure there are many such issues, and nobody is preventing you
from discussing them.  There will always be readers of a newsgroup who
are not interested in particular topics.  If every article was
required to interest *every* reader, we would have a very empty
newsgroup indeed.

> Your bantering of Islamic interpretations on SCP demonstrates to the
> world that muslims, and in particular Islam promotes disregard of
> considerations to forum., and organizational behaviour.  

Your obsession with keeping this newsgroup free of any topics which
don't interest you represents a disturbingly self-centered view of the
world, as does your insistence on regarding yourself as the
authoritative figure of the group, always speaking for the "forum" as
a whole.  You aren't.  Your pathetic attempts to appear as some kind
of net policeman will thus be noted as just that...

> Fellow Pakistanis who are non muslims and or who have to benefit most from a
> forum on Pakistan are the biggest losers, as after following such abject 
> preaching/Mullahism, eventually loose interest and try to find other venues
> for participation in Pakistani issues.

If Pakistani law can be of interest in this newsgroup, if the cricket
team's performance can be of interest, and if the status of Benazir
Bhutto's husband can be of interest, then a religion which clearly
influences most aspects of Pakistani culture (from the holidays to the
very laws I mention earlier in this paragraph) is definitely of interest.

> May I suggest a trip to Bangladesh in the near future, you may help your
> starving bretheren, and a little more time/energy to SCB.

Since you have no knowledge on the frequency of my trips to
Bangladesh, this statement is characteristically unwarranted.  As for
time/energy devoted to SCB, I think a glance at SCB will probably
convince you...

The attitude that Bangladesh is a country of starving masses is not
only wrong, but particularly amusing coming from a Pakistani -- a
quick glance at the relevant statistics will show you that this
attitude is hypocritical at best.  Indeed, higher population growth
rates and the like for Pakistan are indicative of a higher need for
development there in certain sectors...  Clearly, the SAARC countries
should be helping each other to grow economically instead of
displaying unjustified condescending attitudes to one another.

> Amito maake bhaalo bhashi !

Perhaps you should consider living up to this instead of continuously
pestering the net with unwarranted flames of any articles *you* happen
to think are irrelevant to the group.

-- Shakil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian