HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter)
Subject: Re: The Second Move
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:36:02 GMT

intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>How's this for communication:  Oh. Just. Bite. Me.

That could be fun - where do you like being bitten ? :-)

>But, if she chats with you eagerly, doesn't let the conversation
>die, makes lots of eye contact ... what then?  

She casually mentions her 6'6" super-jealous boyfriend named 'Crusher'
who is in the can and will be back sometime, and you realize she either was
just being friendly, or she likes seeing Crusher pound guys to a pulp.

>Angelwing - It is all so obvious.

It sure is.

	fred
-- 
Disclaimer: everything I post is my *personal* opinion and does not represent
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (Software Dude)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Organization: WHAT?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:21:35 GMT

 johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) sweats out:
>In article <1992Apr8.200024.27259@midway.uchicago.edu> pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) writes:
>=Sex is a very, very messy business 
>
>Only if it's done right.
>
Who cares if it's done right. As long as it's done is okay with me!
--
Puter		puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com		Go UofL Cardinals!
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Avoiding dating married people
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 23:05:23 GMT

In article <IdtPJyK00WBNM2yUtx@andrew.cmu.edu>
            "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Am I married?  ASK ME.  Am I in a significant primary relationship?  ASK
>ME.  What do I want of you, if what I have already told you is not
>clear?  ASK ME.  But, having asked, check up on me?  You're history.

I'm curious why you're so offended by someone checking up on you--first
of all, I think it's entirely appropriate for someone to have at least
some wish to verify the things said by someone that they have just met
and are considering getting close to.  I can't think of anyone offhand
who, upon meeting someone and thinking about getting romatically
involved with him or her wouldn't ask questions of mutual friends or
otherwise try to find out a few things about this person.

I've had lots of women do things like ask friends and people I've been
involved with in the past about me or run searches in news databases
for articles about me--I always thought that this connoted a level of
interest that I found flattering.  I might wonder about it a little if
the person in question seemed to be obsessing over it, but I've yet to
see that happen and a certain amount of interest is normal and healthy.

Trygve    (References available on request.)
From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:22:13 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Apr14.173652.9024@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.223322.2312@mks.com> fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes: tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>>Trygve    (What's an atheist to do?)  

>>Masterbate ?

>Sounds like a reasonable suggestion, but I don't want to do that *too* much
>because I've heard that excessive masturbation can lead to spelling
>difficulties.

Shouldn't that be "speling dificultys"?

-- 
Michael Rawdon
rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

All the wine in your life's all dried up - is now the time to give up?
				- Bryan Ferry, "When She Walks In The Room"
From: rrooks@ecs.umass.edu (Raymond Rooks)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Telephone Personals
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:03:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.221720.86967@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, mm0s@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MARC MOSCHETTE) writes:
> Why do all the newspapers go for the telephone response?  Are people who like
> to write or prefer written responses as a means of testing intelligence,
> sanity, sincerity, etc. just not important to the papers??
> Marc


  No, they are interested in the easy revenues from 976 and 1-900 numbers.
Those things keep you on and paying.

Ray
From: osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER...
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:44:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbfsb.1992Apr9.154457.19907
Distribution: usa
Organization: Twilight Zone

Fizzies?  DisgustingVomitSludge...  no wonder I liked them.

	-Andy V.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter)
Subject: Re: Summer of Love
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:24:37 GMT

GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
>Everyone in  Boise is giving me a shove
>to make *this* the summer of love, love, love.

Does this mean a woman said yes ?

	fred
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Disclaimer: everything I post is my *personal* opinion and does not represent
or reflect the opinion of the company which employs me.
From: wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:59:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Discussion Of Romantic Songs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: soc.singles

In soc.singles, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
 > Awhile back Dan asked about putting together a soundtrack for soc.singles.

I must have somehow missed this, but it sounds like an interesting idea. :-) 

 > No soc.single soundtrack would be complete without:
 >
 > "Bolero" , Ravel or
 > "Why Don't We Get Drunk And Screw" by Jimmie Buffet.
 >
 > add some contempory songs like
 > 
 > "People Are Still Having Sex" and "I Want To Sex You Up"

A soc.singles soundtrack also has to include a few songs concerning LDRs. 
A couple of songs that come to mind for this category are "Missing You Now"
by Michael Bolton and "Right Here Waiting" by Richard Marx.  
 
 > I don't really care for the Mannheim Steamroller version.  I saw Glen

I also don't care for the Mannheim Steamroller version of "Classical Gas" as
much as the original version by Mason Williams, but I do like the Mannheim
Steamroller "Classical Gas" album in general.  

 > David Lanz and Paul Speer also have a couple of good music videos with
 > natural scenery.  They are "Natural States" and "Desert Vision".  I haven`t
 > seen either one but hear they are excellent.

Thanks for the suggestions.   :-)  

 > Yanni has some real romantic instrumental music.  The "Reflections of
 > Passion" album contains some real romantic stuff.  There are a couple of
 > tunes that I really wonder how he got the inspiration for them.  I can only
 > imagine that he was thinking about a very intimate and romantic love making
 > session while composing.  The intimacy and romance just pours out of these
 > songs.

This sounds like something interesting to keep in mind.  :-) 

Bill
From: ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Avoiding dating married people
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:49:42 GMT
	<1992Apr12.230523.6115@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>>Am I married?  ASK ME.  Am I in a significant primary relationship?  ASK
>>ME.  What do I want of you, if what I have already told you is not
>>clear?  ASK ME.  But, having asked, check up on me?  You're history.
> 
>I'm curious why you're so offended by someone checking up on you--first
>of all, I think it's entirely appropriate for someone to have at least
>some wish to verify the things said by someone that they have just met
>and are considering getting close to.  I can't think of anyone offhand
>who, upon meeting someone and thinking about getting romatically
>involved with him or her wouldn't ask questions of mutual friends or
>otherwise try to find out a few things about this person.
> 
>I've had lots of women do things like ask friends and people I've been
>involved with in the past about me or run searches in news databases
>for articles about me--I always thought that this connoted a level of
>interest that I found flattering.  I might wonder about it a little if
>the person in question seemed to be obsessing over it, but I've yet to
>see that happen and a certain amount of interest is normal and healthy.
> 
>Trygve    (References available on request.)

Well, you see, I'm not famous like you are, and don't get the same rush
from people searching through databases, credit reports, public records,
and so forth to find out who I am.  The level of interest I find
flattering is that which can discern who I am through personal contact
and which respects my privacy.

Peter
From: joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Do You Remember - early '60s edition
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:06:48 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr9.204033.5589@gvl.unisys.com> liz@gvlf9-j.gvl.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious [Bradley]) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.133532.25745@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>
>>Sputniks - two pieces of blue sugared communion wafer-like disks
>>           bowled and stuck together with little round candies
>>           inside?
>>
>
>They had a name!  Oh, this is funny, I didn't know anyone else
>thought of communion wafers when they saw these!  Hee, hee, and
>we'd be eating them and saying "Body of Christ"....all the time
>worrying about whether or not it was a sin!
>
>
>>-Nance
>
>--
>Liz Loquacious
>liz@gvl.unisys.com
s
I called them flying saucers. I don't ever remember them tasting sweet. I
think thats why we use to think of them as communion wafers ( they had no
flavor ). I remember the candy was pretty crummy tasting also. I think the
reason why I bought them was because of the way they looked.

How about bird whistles, lipstick, nut chews, kits (had 5 little pieces of
wraped candy ), Mary Janes, Red hot dollars 2 for a pennie, whips, how about
the candy that came on a long piece of paper and had 5 dots across. Boy I
haven't thought of penny candy in a long time.

Joni :)
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Second Move
Date: 17 Apr 92 07:17:23 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>I think the important thing to remember is that Angelwing isn't all women;
>she's not responsible for behaving in a manner that you might think would
>be ideal for all women to behave in.

Well said. The point is this: if a guy wants to date someone like 
Angelwing, he is more likely to be successful if he pays attention to 
how she likes to be approached (and she has made this pretty easy to 
comprehend by discussing her preferences in detail over the net). 
If a guy wants not to be bothered with this stuff, then he can get to 
know women like Teri who ask guys out more directly. His choice. Both 
kinds of women exist.

>Trygve

--    
                  A more intimate theology, and one more consonant with 
Stef              the nature of...love, pictures a demonic force engaged  
stef@apple.com    in continuous creation and participation. - Iris Murdoch
From: browns@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Stuart Brown)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Love: It is a precious thing?
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:15:17 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Apr12.015838.3545@mks.com> fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:
>pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) writes:
>>the REAL point of a relationship: to kill or be killed
>
>I always thought the REAL point was to eat or be eaten...
>	fred "I need a room-mate" walter

... or both [on a good night ;-)]
-- 
Stuart M. Brown                               Postdocs rush in where wise men
U. of Manitoba, Dept. Plant Science, Canada       Fear to tread. 
browns@ccu.umanitoba.ca        
				Disclaimer?? Sure: "That Disc is Mine!"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jonb@
Subject: Re: Surprise! A cheerful thought
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:13:46 GMT

In article <kteo8vINNbhi@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>I thought I'd post something cheerful in honor of spring and prozac and
>the nice weekend I just had...

>I've been completely insecure about trying to date again, because I haven't
>dated since I was 19 and since I was afraid that men were all going to 
>see the baby and run away (hell, my husband did and this was even a 
>planned pregnancy.)  So, this friend of mine came to visit and we went
>to Harvard Square to walk around.  She asked if she could carry the baby.
>She went up to EVERY cute guy we saw (and some that weren't cute) and 
>said, "Hi, the baby thought you were really cute and she wanted to get 
>closer and check you out."  Some of them are still standing there looking
>dazed and probably will be until somebody comes to take them home.
>But we got a lot of interesting responses too.

I *LOVE* this, Dawn... A friend of mine here in Sydney has exactly the same 
problem, only with 2 kids... She ends up going out with me a lot because of 
the same reason, and we have been friends since high school... I must get 
her to try this one (might have to get her pisses forst tho - very shy, but 
a screamer with a few champaigns in her...

Jon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Love: Is it a power thing?
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:59:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.050246.13585@news.Hawaii.Edu> venki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (N. Venkateswaran) writes:
>
>	I solicit your opinion on:
>
>
>	"In love, the one who loves less is the winner."
>
>
>	I believe that Love is a power play between 2 (or more?) individuals.
>	Love is used to control and mould a person to suit someone else's
>	perception.

I think this is very common--if not nearly universal--in unhealthy
relationships.  A lot of people do go in for the power/manipulation
aspect of love, relating to their SOs as if they were players in a
competitive, impersonal game motivated by the exhilaration of beating
an opponent instead of growing closer to another human being.
Fortunately, not everybody wants to play this game--and some of those
who do even lose their taste for it as they get older.

Random observation inspired by, but not necessarilly related to the
preceeding:

   In an unhealthy relationship, the one who is craziest, most unstable,
   most irresponsible, or otherwise least suited to be in a relationship
   is the one with the most power.


Trygve
From: johnf@palisades.auspex.com (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Spring Fever or what?
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:56:07 GMT
Distribution: world,soc
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

>Okay, it finally happened.  I just went over the edge.  I made a
>puppet of my hand like that crazy old guy on Ed Sullivan used to do.
>She's got lovely and I mean *lovely* turquoise eyes and long black
>eyelashes and a sweet pink mouth.  Shall I name her?  Or just wash
>her off?  I mean I have *work* to do this afternoon!

Hey, Anglewing could you give me a hand with something over here.

-- 
+=============================================================================+
| John Fereira                Al Bundy for President          
| johnf@auspex.com         "He's as good as the next guy"                     |
+=============================================================================+
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:19:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: apple.65166
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Kiran Wagle writes:

>There was a first move regardless of whether someone chooses to
>"claim" it. Again, it probably should go to the person who asks the
>other to an event that could be considered a "date."
>
And then what? You go out, and then you have to decide whether
to kiss your date goodnight. Is it harder to ask someone out
or to indicate romantic/sexual interest? Someone has to call
someone and ask for another date. Is it harder to ask for a first
date or a second date? What if I were to invite you to a jazz
concert in Monterey -- I would have made the first move but
it would be you flying 2000 miles. Who is taking a greater risk
there? What is the bigfuckingdeal about a "first move"? There
are so many risks involved in getting and staying in a relationship. 
In my experience, asking someone to go out with me for the first time
is one of the smaller risks. 

>>We might have to consider the possibility of MUTUAL INTEREST? 
>
>Of course we might. But mutual interest or not, someone has to move
>first. The fact that both people are interested does not mean they
>will magically get together without one asking the other.
>
In my experience it often seems that they *do* magically get together...
that is, the magic is in the fact that whoever ends up doing the asking,
them or me, doesn't feel afraid of rejection because they know they
won't be rejected. I don't feel as if I have gotten an "aggressive"
notch on my belt if I ask out someone whom I know wants to go out with me.

>But they _don't_
>get it for smiling prettily, or flirting, or arranging to be seen in
>the same restaurant

 I agree with this part.

--    
                  A more intimate theology, and one more consonant with 
Stef              the nature of...love, pictures a demonic force engaged  
stef@apple.com    in continuous creation and participation. - Iris Murdoch
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 21:23:54 GMT

intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
>>
>>        Alison Rebecca Colman errors with
>>
>>                " There are *plenty* of aggressive women willing
>>                  to make the first move "
>>
>>      At last. Somebody more deceived than me.
>>      Man, what a relief.
>Oh pooh Broward!  There ARE lots of aggressive women willing to make the
>first move. Just because they don't move on you doesn't mean they don't exist.
>Angelwing - Alison is right, Broward is wrong.

In order to determine who is right and who is wrong, we must fist
settle on a definition of "move" (and of "first" as well.) Does
smiling and batting one's eyelashes constitute the first move?

I think not. The "first move" has to involve initiating a conversation
with a complete stranger, and following it up with a request for a
date if the chat goes well. 

-- 
"The truffle is not an outright aphrodisiac, but it may in certain
 circumstances make women more affectionate and men more amiable."
                                                ...Brillat-Savarin

From: wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:13:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Spring Fever or what?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: soc.singles

In soc.singles, intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
 > Okay, it finally happened.  I just went over the edge.  I made a
 > puppet of my hand like that crazy old guy on Ed Sullivan used to do.

You're giving your age away by admitting to watching Ed Sullivan.  **GIGGLE**
    :-)  

Bill
From: swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: More helpful Hints
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:37:40 EDT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

In article <6pwjjpj.aahz@netcom.com>,
aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes: 
> In article <1992Apr12.170702.29382@panix.com> pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>>paul (even now having decided not to go out and search for early zucchini)
> 
> Now, remember, *never* buy more than one zucchini plant.  Even one will
> supply too much zucchini for a household of four.
> -- 
>                          --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
>                              @netcom.com 
> 
> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6
> 
> Mothers are inventors by necessity

But it's so difficult not to put in several thousand zuccini and tomato
plants when you haven't had a real tomato or a fresh zuccini in months.

Besides, they make great gifts for friends.  And strangers.  And 
especially enemies.

(Welcome to Peach Tree Circle!  With every purchase you get a free 
cucumber!  WHETHER YOU WANT ONE OR NOT.)

			--Beth

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From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: want-sex(women) < want-sex(men)
Date: 17 Apr 1992 13:52:45 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

>In article <1992Apr16.173429.13370@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, mcregor@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Meloney Cregor) writes:
> No, no nonono, Dawn.  Sheesh.  You gotta acquire those data points FIRST.
> So, that should be.... ACQUIRE ME, ACQUIRE ME, you brute.

Good point, but we want it to be statistically valid when he's done, 
right?  So I think it's SAMPLE ME, SAMPLE ME, you brute.

Dawn
From: jandrews@public.BTR.COM (Jerry Andrews  jandrews@btr.com)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:57:07 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

>>I nominate Angelwing for the Soc.Singles.Fantasy.Goddess for
>>the male contingent.

>You can't; she ain't single.  She just said so herself in a recent post.

So?  She wouldn't be the only attached woman *I'd* fantasized about...

-Jerry
.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (Software Dude)
Subject: Another gem!
Organization: WHAT?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:22:03 GMT

>Walter Lego writes:
>>
>>Do men ever post gems on the net?
>
No. I leave gems on lady's fingers, never in a net! :)
--
Puter	puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com "My favorite vanity plate - PHUQUE"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing)
Subject: Re: Two things....
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:08:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.162638.9925@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ted5@po.CWRU.Edu (Thomas E. Davidson) writes:
>
>	Secondly, I would NEVER interfere with another relationship. They
>ARE santified, and I simply won't allow anyone to break up with their boyfriend
>for me unless they have a much better reason. Sorry....
>
>				Tom

Oh NOOOO!  Waaahhhh!  Oh Tom .. say it isn't so!!   Pleeeeeeeeze let me
break up with my boyfriend for you!  You're so ... so ....strong and manly!

Angelwing - What *is* a "much better reason"?

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* Angelwing       |"Two things are wanted by a true man, danger and*
* U. of Washington| play - therefore, he seeks woman as the most   *
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