HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Alligators in sewers
Date: 28 Sep 1992 21:06:31 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

tim@sinix.UUCP (Tim Bissell) writes:

  +I was on holiday in Brittany (France) a couple of weeks ago, and went to
  +a large aquarium in Vannes.  Amongst their attractions was a crocodile which
  +had been caught in the Paris sewers in 1984.  It is about 4 feet long (my
  +guess) and that is all the information on it.  Anyone know anything else
  +about it.
  +
  +It looks like it happened in Paris, so it *could* have happened in New York!

Well heck.  In either place, people are incomprehensible, rude, and 
you get ripped off.

Terry "Parallel universe maybe?" Chan
--
Energy and Environment Division   | Internet:  TWChan@lbl.gov
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Carpe Per Diem
From: root@tbucks.com (Timothy E. Buchanan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Studies have shown...
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:00:52 GMT
Organization: tbucks.com (private bitty-box)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

u8802356@cs.uow.edu.au (Stephen Lance Rogan) writes:
: A freind of mine doing a course was told (quite seriously) that
:  ".... 50 percent of people who commit suicide do so within the first 
:   six months following their birthday... "

I work as an Air Traffic Controller. During a briefing on recent separation
errors, we were told that data showed "53 % of errors happened during the
45 minute period after taking over a control position". This proved that
incomplete relief briefings were a leading cause of errors.

I commented that data showed that 100 % of errors happened during the ten
minutes prior to a controller being relieved from a position (because you
get pulled away when the snitch goes off). This proved that all we had to
do to prevent deals was to get people off position earlier.

Brought down the house.

--
Timothy.


      ------- Time is our only resource, humor our only defense. -------
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright)
Subject: Re: Brunvand Info Requested
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: This is the Place Monument, UT
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:27:28 GMT

Terry Carroll wrote:
: At what university does Jon Harold Brunvand teach?  What's his department and 
: title?

Culled from `finger brunvand@m.cc.utah.edu`:

----------------------------------------
            name: BRUNVAND,JAN HAROLD
           phone: (801) 581-7861
         address: 341 OSH
                : University of Utah
                : Salt Lake City, Utah 84112
 office_location: 320 OSH
      department: ENGLISH
----------------------------------------

"My favorite teams are 1) Utah, and 2) whoever is playing BYU"

  -- Dan Wright


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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Kirk VS Picard (was "Lost In Space" was better)
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:53:18 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <tomcat.718257354@cwis>, tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:

>> In article <6639@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw+@pitt.edu writes:
>  >If Jean-Luc Picard got into a fight with Jim Kirk who would win?

> I mean, come on, Kirk
> went up against a huge green lizard (Gorn) and his old buddy Finnegan.
> Picard?  An invisible monster he never had a chance to beat, and a
> terrorist.  I don't think I have ever seen Picard win a hand to hand
> combat situation.

I think that Bill Shatner said it best.  When asked the above question,
Shatner replied:

                "I'd kick his ASS!"
                
Terry "I didn't know Jean-Luc kept animals" Wood
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom,alt.religion.kibology,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: "Lost In Space" was better
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:25:46 GMT
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Sep30.014343.17174@unlv.edu> edcrwfrd@unlv.edu (Edward Crawford) writes:
>
>Of course star trek is full of inconsitencies... my favorite is:
>In the Old one they always sent the captain down with their transport
>teams, in the New one they only sent the Second Highest ranking down
>and called it a breakthrough.... 
>
Whatabout the storyline where the away team is freezing to death because they
can't get the transporter to work to beam them up?  How's about using the
shuttlecraft (duh!) or just drop down a rope ladder, or something.

Also, the Naked Now episode early on in TNG has them procrastinating about
solving their problem and depending on the computer records to find a
solution because it's "obviously" been solved before.  Then there's an
"Oh Shit!, it didn't work!" scene where they are disappointed that the method
used in the Naked Time in TOS didn't work.  Now they have little time and
actually have to get their fingernails dirty.  What a bunch of yuppie wimps.

cj "I'm 137 years old, and I didn't die (Admiral McCoy)" l
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From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom,alt.religion.kibology,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: "Lost In Space" was better
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:17:00 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Someone replied to my original posting with an interesting
possibility:  According to my source, the origin for the UL (that
someone "overloaded" a computer network by posting "'Lost in Space'
was Better" to the Star Trek bulletin board) was a science fiction
story that someone famous wrote.

I have the following questions:

1) Does anyone have a more specific origin for the UL than "a science
fiction story" written by "someone famous?"  At this point, just about
anything specific would be helpful.

2) Was the above story a restating of a previously existing UL, or was
it the origin of the UL?

Followups to the ULology questions directed to alt.folklore.urban.
Direct followups to the continuing "Lost in Space" vs "Star Trek"
flame war wherever appropriate.

--Scott "well, it WAS better" Cromar
From: saxe@chopin.cs.unc.edu (Eddie Saxe)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Hot (superheated) tea?
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:16:19 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <8417.24040@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM> jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman) writes:

[very good criticism of the "superheated tea" arguement deleted]

>                      You can cook yourself alive in 120
>degree water, if you sit in it long enough.

Yeah!  You can also cook yourself by going to tanning salons too often!

Eddie "You taste like chicken afterwards" Saxe
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From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: "Pirated" TV Sets? (was Re: 666 Cable TV)
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:05:45 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Distribution: alt
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey

In article <BvGtyy.Ly1@world.std.com> lmh@world.std.com (Larry M Headlund) writes:

>Now that that is out of the way,  I heard a new (to me) UL the other day.

>	The topic was cable TV and pirating extra TV's inside your home off
>a socket.  I was "informed" that

I don't know what this is about "extra cable TV's in your home:  All the
new homes being built in a local development come "wired" for cable in
many rooms.  You pay the cable company one installation rate to "hook up
to your house" (like the phone company) regardless of how many "jacks"
you have in your home; if you need converter boxes, THEN you have to pay
more.  However, if you have cable-ready TV's (and don't subscribe to any
"premium" channels, you don't pay any extra.

I ran cable to my kids' rooms, and they can watch any of the basic
channels on their cable-ready TV -- I don't pay extra for each TV set.

Another $.02
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: <None>
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:24:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Oct4.202635.10679@netcom.com>, obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien) writes:

> You guys proved
> something, allright.  
-------------^^^^^^^^

Oh no!  Let's start a STARTREK SPELLING FLAME WAR! :-)



> You proved the credo of AFU, that people are not
> only more gullible than you imagine, but more gullible than you *can* imagine.

> The folks in the StarTrek heierarchy have discovered that ignoring
> stuff makes it go away *faster* than flaming it.

No, they just send e-mail!  You would believe that stuff I got!  It was
great!

Terry "Potatoe" Wood  author of "Jean-Luk EXPLOITS android labor!"

Beam me up, Craig!
-- 
        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
"Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"                        - Lord "John" Warfin
"There can be only one!"                                  - The Highlander
"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght)
Subject: Re: Room numbering (was: Floor numbering)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:32:18 GMT


Here at Clemson we are tearing down Johnstone hall in which you could
exit to ground level from floors; 1,2,3,4,5,6 and had a total of 9
floors.  the building was in sections A-F and no one section had I think
more than 5 maybe 6 floors.

It was a dorm and a LOUSY place to live.

Jim
From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Name dropping Star Trek rape videos
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:56:30 MDT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <BvInD6.36n@world.std.com>, lmh@world.std.com (Larry M
Headlund) writes:
> Larry "Now we can go back to name dropping, Star Trek and Rape Videos" 
> 		Headlund

     That'd be Marina Sirtis in "Death Wish 4," Larry.

Patrick "or was it 3?" Clark
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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Disco "Snuff" Recording?
Date: 27 Sep 1992 07:24:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
  +
  +Anyone else related to someone famous, or knew someone who was?

Betcha Larry Doering doesn't.
  
  +th "doing a reasonably good cjl impersonation" f

TW 'daMn ShIFt keY" cHan
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Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | It's not weird enough for me yet.
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From: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Presidential UL's
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:48:03 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <1992Sep24.162923.21361@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.040039.9335@seanews.akita.com> billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick) writes:
>>
>>Al Haig was *exactly* right in establishing control. The V.P. had not
>>been reached with the news and he was the highest-ranking cabinet member
>>on site.
>
>My impression is that the Speaker of the House is in control before anyone
>on the Cabinet is.

	Alas, I lack my sources for the succession following the incapacitation
or death of a US President. Who's in charge between the moment the President
becomes unavailable (through illness, or death, or  whatever) and the moment
the next-in-line is informed? Let's say, hypothetically, that the President
drops dead of a heart attack while the VP is off golfing somewhere,and an
important, 'needs-to-be-dealt-with-right-now' crisis comes up (The BadGuys
decide to take advantage of the temporary state of confusion to launch
an attack on the US), who ends up being de facto President, if not the
legal succssor?

							James Nicoll
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom,alt.religion.kibology,talk.bizarre
From: iacovone@zeus.franklin.edu (Daniel R. Iacovone)
Subject: Re: "Lost In Space" was better
Organization: Franklin University (Columbus, OH)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:28:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.043848.25923@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.025642.14492@rchland.ibm.com> jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
>>What a stupid thread!!
>>
>>"Clarabelle" was better than "Bozo"!!
>
>Isn't that Capatain Kangaroo is better than Williard Scott?
>
>>"Chimpanzees" are better than "Orangutangs"!!
>
>J. Fred Muggs vs. Clyde from Every Which Way But Loose?
>
>>"Pintos" are better than "Mavericks"!!
>
>James Garner was on Maverick.  I don't think there was a show named Pinto,
>or even Exploding Pinto, (or was that Exploding Kibo?)
>
>>"James Buchanon" was better than "Andrew Jackson"!!
>
>Maybe it was Edward Buchanan, known for the "slow burn", or was it Kate Jackson
>on Charlie's Angels?
>
>>"TRS-80" was better than "C64"!!


And let us not forget -- 
Betty Rubble is still much more of a babe than Wilma.

Fred is more of a cheuvenistic pig (sp) than Jackie Gleason was on the
Honeymooners......   {{:-{> 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: "Lost In Space" was better
Organization: Will work for food, but not for DEC.
Date:  5 OCT 92 07:23:13    


In article <BvIDLn.A0E@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, 
  byarlay@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Wayne Byarlay) writes...

>it's quite obvious they have NO imagination whatsoever and cannot enjoy
>anything without tons of rules. 

Isn't this the same reason we couldn't get the AFU FAQ posted with the other
groups' FAQs?

 - snopes
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Disco "Snuff" Recording?
Date: 1 Oct 92 05:11:05 GMT
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Oct1.005017.18000@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Citecheck Hell) writes:
>: In article <1992Sep26.061423.19757@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>: >obJamesBondFact: Charles Lasner is not related to George Lazenby, the only
>: >one-shot James Bond in the popular series of movies.
>: 
>: Don't forget Woody Allen.
>
>How about David Niven? "Casino Royale"?
>
>Bill

David Niven, and Charles Boyer, and Orson Welles and a few others were all
mentioned already.

cj "too many Bonds" l
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Presidential UL's
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:36:44 GMT

In article   writes:
>calgary.ca!honte.uleth.ca!hg.uleth.ca!STD_FLEMING
>From: std_fleming@hg.uleth.ca

>I think the NSA is responsible for staffing the US government in the nuclear 
> war situation you describe.  That's the UL, anyway.
>
>                                 -John "I'm a Canadian so it doesn't affect                                       me" Fleming

	No, I believe FEMA gets to administrate during catastrophes. They
are definitely in charge of making the contingency plans. 

	The President is still  theoretically in charge, of course,
barring communication difficulties.

	How'd FEMA  do in Florida and Hawaii? Seems like a  good chance
to  practice for  the  Big One.

							James Nicoll
From: de@moscom.com (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mixed up translations
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:03:16 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford NY

In article <1992Oct1.203259.21895@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> amorgan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog) writes:
>In article <4315@moscom.com> de@moscom.com (David Esan) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep30.201015.27323@bradley.bradley.edu> 
>>  death@buhub.bradley.edu (Dustin Slater) writes:
>>>I admittedly haven't been following this string to closely, so i am
>>>wonderin if you have mentioned the Nova (car). It didn't sell well in
>>>Mexico because in spanish no va means (literally) "no go". not a great name
>>>for a car.
>>And number 3.
>You just *love* this, don't you?

What can I say?

I don't like it.  It just amazes me that when someone goes newbie trolling
how many people he catches.

I generally lurk in newsgroups for a while so that I don't unintentionally
make a fool of myself.  And then join only tenatively until I am sure of the 
flow of the group.  This is not just on the computer but in life.  One can't
just wade in, you must test the waters first, and see if you have anything
that can be contributed, or that you want to get involved in the first place.

I was once in a deep discussion of the nuances of model rocketry with a
friend.  We both had launched more than 100 model rockets each, and we
were comparing notes.  A third person entered the conversation with: "I
shot a rocket once."  It was completely inappropriate to the existing
conversation, and if he taken the time to listen he would have realized
that he was out of his depth in the conversation, and had nothing to 
contribute.

I think newbies (whether freshman or new to the net) should have the same
politeness.  There is an FAQ list that is posted regularly that states that
this is a strange group.  A two week perusal of the group will have the
new user up to speed where the question of posh will not have to answered,
and Nova can remain at GM.

Actually, I shot a rocket once, wouldn't be a bad motto for AFU.

"Vunce the rockets are up, who cares where they come down,
 Its not my department,
 said Werner von Braun."



-- 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -->     David Esan      de@moscom.com  
 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Counting on one's fingers ...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:25:12 GMT

in Message-ID: <lck1vlINNcai@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
landauer@morocco.Eng.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer)  writes:

>  .......
>Or, instead, you can count with the fingers in ternary.  Just bend the finger
>halfway for a 1, and extend it all the way for a 2.  Gets you up to 59,048;
>but be careful when you get to 18, 4374 or 4392.


	How many ways are there to make a whopper?

J.P. "I've heard it's good finger food" Papai
From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mixed up translations
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:55:04 GMT
Organization: Just put everything on the floor; I can find it.


In article <1992Sep25.190057.13519@geovision.gvc.com>, 
  pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin) writes...

>Because Toyota US is _not_ Toyota Canada, or Toyota Japan.  If Toyota Japan
>dictated advertising policy to the subsidiaries, we'd probably all be
>driving American cars. (and they'd probably be based on 1960's technology).

Somebody corrected the pronunciation of "Subaru" in this country, and I doubt
the trend originated here.  

>Don't know why there should be such a difference, considering that we all 
>(US, UK, Canada) speak _almost_ the same language.  The only explanation I 
>can find is the supposition that Canada (because of the french influence), 
>and the UK (because of Europe) make a greater attempt to find out how foreign
>languages pronounce foreign words than the great bastion of the monoculture, 
>the US.

But it's *not* a foreign word.  It's a word of foreign invention, but that's
completely different.  "Celica" isn't a word identifiable (at least to most
Americans) as belonging to any particular language, much less Japanese.  So,
Americans are going to pronounce it according to American rules of
pronunciation: "CEL-ick-a".   Europeans, perhaps, would look at the word and
give it more of a Spanish or Italian pronunciation, but that's just a guess.
We went through the same spiel when the car with Corinthian leather was
introduced -- is it "KOR-do-ba" or "kor-DO-ba"?  Depends on how much you knew
about Spain (and Spanish), and whether or not you listened to the ads.

 - snopes

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From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: License Plates and Prisons
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:30:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc2

In article <1992Oct5.94745.5804@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:

>The color of urine depends on a lot of factors not all of them to
>do with health. Urine becomes darker and cloudier, for example,
>if you urinate infrequently. It becomes blue for reasons I'd
>rather not go into here...

When I was a Masters student, one other the other MScs was given some vitamin
pills by a friend. Finding that his urine changed colour, he asked someone
else to try them --> me. My urine turned this amazing fluorescent (sp?) 
green colour. 

But when he asked me if anything happenned, I figured 'what the hell' and
told him no.

Cheers,

Ross-c
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: andrew@utopia.resntl.bhp.com.au (Andrew Lewis)
Subject: Re: One, Two, Many revisited.
Organization: BHP Research - Newcastle Laboratories
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:05:05 GMT

In article <26484@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
|> sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith) writes:
|>   +> there's
|>   +>not much need to have special words mentioning two of something.
|> 
|> phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
|>   +>
|>   +In English, we have "pair" and "brace". The latter is used almost exclusively
|>   +to describe deceased fowl.
|>   + 
|> Well, there's that alternate name for suspenders, braces.  Then again,
|> if brace is two of something, why do some say a pair of braces?
|> 
Because of the alternate meaning of brace as something that joins two points
together.
BTW, we also speak of a brace of pistols. And let us not forget a *couple* of
other "two-words", twin and twain.

Andrew "Oh look, there's the Dynamic Duo" Lewis