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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:44:44 MEZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      European Satellite List SBC.EXE, Info about availability.

This posting is in place of my more or less regular broadcasts
of the EUROPEAN SATELLITE LIST, usually called SBC.EXE.
I have decided to not bother the net anymore with its public
distribution, because from the noumerous replies I received, I
learned that you can never make it right for everybody. Even for
list formats, compression styles etc. individuality exists. This
by no means is an outburst of frustration. I will only show, how I
am going to handle this matter in the future rather than just
uploading it to the HOMESAT list/rec.video.satellite to arrive
distorted or otherwise useless at close or remote places.

Whenever a new version is out, I will post the following advice
how to get hold of the list. Depending on the weight of changes,
this may be weekly, bi-weekly or monthly. I wish to point out,
that this list is available to the net by permission of the
SATELLITEN BEOBACHTER CLUB (SBC) -Satellite Watcher Club-, based
in Munich, Germany, with app. 75 members who send in their
spottings by fax.

The list then is updated and made available from the following public
sources, free for everyone:

1. By fax polling. Because of the length of the list, for 3
parts, 3 different phone numbers have to be dialled:

+49 89 418608 51 for part one    ) as from January 1st 1993
+49 89 418608 52 for part two    ) (for 1992 the TWO digits 98 and
+49 89 418608 53 for part three  ) 99 are still in use for 51/52/53
The numbers and hardware are kindly supplied by the publishers of
TELESATELLIT magazine.

2. By downloading from the free TELESATELLIT BBS, 2400 bps 8N1,
phone number +49 89 418608 95. File name is SBC.EXE, a
selfextracting ARJ-compressed MS-DOS file. There are several
other files, all satellite related, but most are in the german
language. All files combined are also available as ALLES.EXE.
For those who do not like selfextracting files, each one is also
available as .ARJ (SBC.ARJ and ALLES.ARJ for instance),
although the file name list does not show that version.

3. Through "Channel Videodat", the 24-hour data service on TV
channel "Pro7" on Astra and Kopernikus 1, using a Videodat
decoder and programming the SAT ident. The transmission is free
for all decoder owners.

4. Through anonymous ftp from the site MCSHH.HANSE.DE
(192.76.134.1) in the directory pub/satelliten.
Available is SBC.EXE as well as SBC.TXT, the long, uncompressed
ASCII file, and SBC.ZIP, along with ALLES.EXE as described
above.

5. Through ftp-mail for those who cannot do ftp themselves. I
have tested one ftp-server myself successfully:
ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
The mail you send to that address should contain the following
message:

reply  yourname@your.site  (place your Internet address here)
connect mcshh.hanse.de
binary
chdir pub/satelliten
uuencode
get sbc.exe
quit

You soon will receive a confirmation for your request, and how many
other requests there are before yours, and some hours later you
will find the uuencoded file in your mail.

6. You still can always write to me (wrs@mcshh.hanse.de) and
request the file. Please indicate the format you need, otherwise
I will send the SBC.EXE selfextracting file for MS-DOS
uuencoded. Note, that the one question you will be asked when
running SBC.EXE to selfextract, is whether you want the
extraction to take place now. The answer is JA rather than YES.
That's all German you need.

The list SBC.TXT is written in 8-bit ASCII and in the strange
format of 200 characters per line. Reason for that is the main
purpose for distribution "Fax Polling". I am using SIDEWAYS to
print it properly on a matrix printer. You might find better
ways. Available by ftp is also the program satinfo.exe, which is
a database program for the list SBC.TXT, but it might require a
little more knowledge of the german language.

OK, having said all that, a December 28th version is now ready
for the asking...

Wolfgang


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