From: doug@crevasse.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Doug Cripe)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Can Colorado discriminate against straights?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:27:37 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <BxLzLz.EHH@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike  
Reaser) writes:
> In <Nov11.195024.69810@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>  
doug@crevasse.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Doug Cripe) writes:
> >I for one would not want an avowed,   
> >practicing homosexual teaching my children in elementary school, and I  
> >know I'm by far not the only one to feel this way.
> 
> OK, why?  Or are you from the school of "all gays are child molesters",
> even though most medical and psychological studies have shown that the
> majority of the perpetrators of those crimes are HETEROsexual?

No, I'm not from the "all gays are child molesters" category.  What I do  
object to is the presentation of homosexuality in public education as  
somehow just another "normal" lifestyle.  I recently read an article in  
the National Review (my roommate subscribes, not me!) where children in  
the New York City public education system are given books to read in which  
"Jane is presented with her two mommies," etc.  Parents who object to this  
kind of indoctrination of ideology in the classroom are told by the  
admistration to just butt out.
> 
> 
> [ ... other mindless illogical drivel deleted ... ]
> 

Do you normally get this worked up over mindless illogical drivel?

> >>We can't marry our partners. 
> 
> >Do you think it is sheer coincidence that no civilized nation on this  
> >planet includes homosexuality in the definition of marriage?  
> 
> And how nice of you to proclaim that Denmark is no longer a "civilized
> nation on this planet".  Your ignorance is scary -- have you learned
> NOTHING at that school of yours?
> 

Ok, all civilized nations minus one.  Seriously, I have visited Denmark a  
few times and have several friends there.  It's a wonderful country, the  
food is great, the people friendly, but I wonder if we should emulate  
everything that goes on in Denmark?  I noticed pornography can be found  
right alongside beer and ice cream cones at mom and pop shops just about  
everywhere.  But enlighten me ...I'd like to know how long Denmark has  
recognized homosexual unions, if such unions enjoy the same legal and  
social status as marriage, if the people of Denmark ever voted on this  
issue or had any say in it, and if the government encourages one over the  
other in terms of taxation.  In any case, you'll forgive me if what goes  
on in a country of 5 million concerning homosexual unions is not exactly  
at the top of my list of scholastic priorities.  By comparison, do you  
know how Switzerland (a country of equal size) just voted concerning the  
rights of domiciled immigrants to participate in state and federal  
elections?  I daresay that's an issue with just as much importance as the  
one you're berating me for ignoring.  What?  You didn't know that  
Switzerland even had states?  Can you at least identify the four national  
languages spoken there?  No?  May I suggest your ignorance is scary...have  
you learned nothing at your institution?

> >from time immemorial, has always been defined as the joining of a man  
and  
> >a woman, forming the basic family unit.  Perhaps some other, legally  
> >recognized union could be established for homosexual "couples", but  
that  
> >should never supplant, or be on the same level as, marriage.  Besides,  
> >what do we do with the man who wants to "marry" his sheep?  Or the  
mormon  
> >who wants 7 wives?  Or the man who wants to "marry" a nine year-old  
boy?   
> >After all, these are merely sexual orientations...
> 
> Oh, good, you've learned your lessons from the Oregon Citizens'  
Alliance.
> Equate anything "different" with bestiality and pederasty.
> 
> When logic fails, pull out the widest brush you can to smear those you
> perceive as your "enemies".  Pitiful.

Never heard of the "Oregon Citizens' Alliance - I live 1000 miles away.   
In any case, this is rich...homosexuals can have an alternative  
orientation, but anything else is deviant.  Hmm... your logic breaks down  
here, because, if you want to make an appeal to logic, then obviously men  
were meant to have sex with women.  A cursory examination of human anatomy  
will reveal that.  As far as pitiful and smearing perceived enemies, who's  
been painting the citizenry of Colorado as hateful bigots?
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