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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Carl's theatrical "subtitling"
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:04:58 GMT

In article <711797934snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
>In article <1992Jul18.020147.5159@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
> > When will people get this right, Tokuma gave them 2 years with Laputa,
> > period.
>I KNOW that. But he never made a good attempt at getting it shown.

What, you mean distributing it around to the theaters?  It came around
to my local "alternative" theater.  I missed it, un(?)fortunately, but
it did make its rounds.  I doubt Carl had more than half-a-dozen prints,
tops, like he usually does, which limits his distribution of the film
significantly.  Or are you complaining about something else?

> > They were never offered Totoro & Kiki, they were mercenary dubbers, so to
> >  speak.
>I know. Which is why he should never have accepted it. Now they have
>these wonderful titles gathering dust, in a distributable form but
>no-one with the money to do so. (If they were still undubbed, they
>might be available cheaper.)

Why not dub them?  It was a paid job, a way for Carl to make money, which
everyone says is all he's interested in.  The irony is that the people
with the money to pay Tokuma what they want for them aren't interested,
and the company that is interested, namely Streamline, doesn't have
as much money as Tokuma does.

And I don't understand: Why might it be cheaper to buy Kiki and Totoro
if they were undubbed?  The point was that Tokuma was aiming for the
big names in order to get Kiki & Totoro into the big time (ironically, what
Carl himself wants to eventually do).  If these companies wouldn't consider
a dubbed Kiki & Totoro, why would they be interested in an undubbed one?
Do you think Tokuma would suddenly lower their desired price just because
it hasn't been dubbed yet?  I doubt it - they were just smart enough to
realize that they'd get nowhere with an undubbed copy.  Too bad they aren't
smart enough to realize the big names aren't biting and that they'd be
better off sticking with the small fry for now.

What I sometimes wonder is why doesn't a Japanese anime company take a
more active role in distributing their films abroad?  Instead of waiting
for someone else to pick them up from them, why not dub them well themselves
(or hire outside contractors like Streamline to do it for them) and
distribute it themselves?  Are there bizarre laws at work here that
say they have to sell their films to a domestic distributor, that they
can't distribute it?

>Sorry, I ain't about to give Carl an inch, not ever (not after the way
>I was treated over the phone by him once).

[Ah, so you're nursing a grudge, huh?  Okie dokie, I can deal with that.  8-]
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From: michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: VP Miyu LD
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:45:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Network Solutions Group / GEC Alsthom, Sydney

In article <jfritz.04qy@amiganet.chi.il.us> 
jfritz@amiganet.chi.il.us (John Fritz) writes:
> I just received my copy of the Vampire Princess Miyu LD and I just skimmed
> parts of it to see how good the transfer is.  The transfer came out very good.
> The picture is very clear.  However, I have two questions.

I got mine Friday morning.  Very fast as I wasn't expecting it to turn up
the same week as in the US.  The gods must have blessed the plane my copy
was in :-).  This is the first time I've seen clear crisp subtitling.  It
is so much better than the Akira subtitling [white thin courier font ukk
and damn near unreadable at times.  Don't know how anyone with a small
screen would cope].

> 1. (very minor point) Why didn't the disc have a Table of Contents? I like
> knowing the number of chapters and how long the side is when the disc spinsup
>  Is it much more expensive to add a TOC?

TOC or to TOC that is the question. [bad I know :-)]

>2.(major point) On my equipment at least, the subtitles came out with a slight
> 'ghost' to the right of the subtitle characters of almost a full character. 
> Possibly the yellow of the subtitles transfered a little 'hot'?
> Maybe someone else with the LD could check this for me.
>(My setup: Pioneer Elite CLD-92 LD player feeding into JVC SVHS 6600 then via
>RF to my old 19in Sony (the Sony doesn't have AV inputs so I have to do it this
>way))  I'd like to know if it is my setup or the LD.  If it's my setup, well I
>guess it may be time to get a new TV (This one's nine years old anyway)

It will be your setup I think.  I don't have that problem on my system.
Mind you if you look closely at my system you do see some interesting
artifacts due to the difference in frequency of power in Australia to the
US [not just voltage].  We run at 50Hz rather than 60Hz.  Plus other
frequency interfence from the multi-system scan rates...  Not that you
notice it while watching stuff!  But solid blue screens are interesting :-)

Michael
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From: morimoto@infonode.ingr.com (Michael Morimoto)
Subject: Theodore Kemtis, do you do a manga?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:29:26 GMT

First apologies, I seem to recall Theodore Kemtis as being on the net but I'm
not sure...  He is the publisher/creator of OVA (A *damn* fine OVA 'zine!).
I may be on drugs but I seem to recall that he might be looking for a zine to
carry his comic/art.  If so, From Side to S.I.D.E., the zine of SummerSide
would definitely be interested.  Please write.  We now return you to your
regular net.programming, already in progress...
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From: hlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Henry Lee)
Subject: Scott Bernard (Lt.; Col.) Re: Genesis Climber Mospeada
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:18:03 GMT

In article <GENOM.92Jul28174529@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> genom@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Genom) writes:
>In article <JDckoB2w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> sssines@bluemoon.rn.com (Shawn Eric Sines) writes:
>	   Well, I've seen a master copy of the premire episode they used
>    to sell the series to HG, but I am waiting for the Steamline release of
>    ROBOTECH to get Genesis CLimber.. be warned.. scott's real name is...
>
>			   STICK berhnard(no joke!)
>
>Yep, that's what it says in the Mospeada liner notes. Of course I always
>thought "Scott" was a bit of a "Stick" in the mud anyway. :-)

Admiral Lisa Hayes-Hunter would later refer to him (upon the
SDF-3's return to Earth around 2035) as "Ol' Stone-face."          ;-)
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From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Learning about World War II in Japan
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:52:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.010204.7796@medsys.rn.com> bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.005005.27319@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>>Anybody know the acutal figure of death in the Nanking Massacre? 
>>
>>An official date is 300,000. This was not impossible, considering
>>the killing competition among the soldiers in a month. Two very
>>notorious soldiers vied for the championship in a short time, one 
>>killed around 115, the other around 100.
>
>I believe the numbers are 106 and 105.
>
>Chou1

I remember the difference was more than 10, the average was between
100 and 110. Anyway, this was not that important.

BTW, the deaths from the two atomic bombs were around 240,000.
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: ROBOTECH
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 19:15:18 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <Jul.22.16.54.32.1992.2039@remus.rutgers.edu> pearl@remus.rutgers.edu writes:
 > 
 > I set followups to rec.arts.anime, a newsgroup devoted to Japanese
 > animation like Robotech.  

Almighty keeper of the FAQL and he gets it wrong. It should of course
be "a newsgroup devoted to Japanese animation UNlike Robotech." :)

Macross/SC/Mospeada is japanese animation, Robotech is not. (Let's
start THAT argument again. :)

Jodan, jodan!!!!

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From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Running Ink on the net?
Date: 24 Jul 92 04:41:28 GMT
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

In article <1992Jul23.234822.876@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ae561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Wong) writes:
>
>Running ink production:  ho@janet.ucla.edu
>			 riap@uunet.uu.net

Hmm, maybe I should have said "not the UCLA one".  That's the old one
and the account has since expired.

Does David have an account at this riap address?

Thanx,

Agitator
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From: ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Why I don't want anime pushed to the mainstream
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:07:47 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

<U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

> <lots deleted>
>
> Don't forget another cardinal rule: according to most film critics,if it
> ain't Disney,it ain't animation. This has less to do with Disney's quality
> than some weird penchant that film crits have for ignoring anything animated
> that doesn't meet their rather narrow guidelines.

Strangely, I was flipping channel one night a couple of months ago, and I
stopped on Siskel & Ebert, at the very moment they were reviewing Akira on
video... They recommended it; just goes to show that a few film critics know
what they're doing...that raised my opinion of S & E just a little...:)


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From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:06:49 GMT
Reply-To: djohnson@ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>The article goes on to say that they excel at the computer and Japanese 
>corporations like their commitment, but one manager complains that they
>can be lousy team players because of their in ability to communicate
>with non-otaku workers.

Gosh, sounds just like "hackers" :-)

PS: What's an "idol singer"?


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From: fafhrd@clubzen.fidonet.org (Fafhrd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: This has gotta stop (was Re: AnimeWhateverCon '93)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 01:47:19 PST
Organization: Club Zen BBS - Fidonet/Internet - +1 408 734 2289

bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:

> 
> My, isn't this like US politics?  You know, where both sides form their
> own agenda without taking into consideration the wishes of the others,
> then when the other side votes them down, they point fingers at each other
> and shout "It's all YOUR fault"?  The leaders of AnimeCon and AnimeExpo
> don't like each other (I mean the *real* leaders, not those hired to run
> conventions), which tends to get in the way of that elusive concept,
> compromise.  According to David's post, one side tried a compromise and the
> other shot it down.
> 
> I just can't help but notice that date.  July 4.  365 days in the year and
> they choose that one to schedule the AnimeCon.  It's the same day as the
> planned Anime Expo, which is the "standing" con for that date by virtue of
> its being held last year while AnimeCon was not.  The message, in my mind, is
> clear:  "We love ya, Mike, but get out of the way or we'll run ya down."
> 
> I refuse to take a side on this issue.  The statements above are based solely
> on what I've gleaned from posts.  What I would like to see, however, is for
> neither side to make plans such as these until this mess is worked out.  Both
> sides say that two cons would be very bad for fandom, and yet both sides
> seem perfectly willing to plan independent conventions.  Better that fandom
> suffer than any egos get bruised, I guess.
> 
> Both sides should meet under the concept "We must work together."  Not "We'd
> like very much to work together," not "We should", not "We'll try".  "We
> MUST!"
> 
> By the way, if it is true that certain companies have already agreed to
> sponsor this AnimeCon, then I've gotta say that they're being just as bad
> as the combatants.  All we need is for the companies to start choosing up
> sides as well.
> 
> Come on guys.  ONE convention.  Please?
> 
> 			---------- Ryan Mathews
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Ryan, I have asked Mike to speak to me on this very subject on-line, and 
he has stated that he plans to ignore all of my posts (including, 
presumably, this one....). I am ready to resolve this. I would much 
rather deal with running a great con for the fans, than the 
fan-politics-b*llshit. 

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From: Jesse.Taylor@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jesse Taylor)
Subject: Hoi... uhm...
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:35:14 GMT

I hate to ask this again, but did anyone get DP-Chan.gif and Iczer3.gif? I
didn't... Could someone who got them d/loaded correctly mail them to me?

Jesse.Taylor@samba.acs.unc.edu
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From: rksuzuki@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Richard K. Suzuki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: RUMOR:  BATTLETECH anime!! (KENICHI SONODA CHARACTER DESIGNS)
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:19:07 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <1992Jul19.071614.2843@crash.cts.com> noelg@pnet01.cts.com (Noel Gamboa) writes:

>Battleytech Replay's mecha designs are by Shooji Kawamori, who was
>mecha designer for TV Macross and director of Macross The Movie.  He
>also designed 0083's Unit 2 (look at the new Rifleman's feet and
>you'll immediately see the similarities).

	Oops.  I should have mentioned that Sonada did the _character_ not
    mecha designs.  Thanx. 


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From: kchang@orion.oac.uci.edu (K_Shibuya)
Subject: Re: Gundam F91
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Organization: Cal-Animage Epsilon
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:19:56 GMT

In article <8TLgoB1w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert) writes:
>kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu writes:
>
>> I finally saw Gundam F91 (not like I liked it but the next day I bought the
>> Gundam F91 Entertainment Bible and a poster...) and I was wondering something
>> Is there going to be a sequel to it?  It says at the end that "this is only t
>> beginning" or something like that.  If anyone knows anything, could you
>> e-mail to me?  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>No, there is no sequal for F-91. Considering how badly it did, and how 
>very unpopular it is with Gundam fans, I don't thing that we will ever 
>see anything more from Gundam F-91. I guess that just because it's 
>Gundam, it doesn't mean it has to be good.... 
> 
>Vlad

=>Actually, there is gonna be a continuation of Gundam F-91 to explain the 
movie (more like a continuation of the story, the story was compressed 
and too quick in the movie, they may expand what happened in the new series of
Gundam F-91).

>
>
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>< Vlad G. Pohnert                            >> Just call me CHAR! >
>< "B.A.K.A. no Baka" Fanzine Co-ordinator    >> Everyone at club   >
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From: 7514P%NAVPGS.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Chris Swett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Rumic World
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:23:30 GMT
To: "Japanese animedia and other animation news." <ANIME-L%VTVM1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
 <sun-barr!sh.wide!wnoc-tyo-news!lkbreth!macross@ames.arpa>

<1lb Gospel in Rumic World?>

      I took a look at the anime version and it doesn't have the Rumic World
title screen.

<tankoubon>

      hon -> bon... makes lots of sense. I never could spell worth a damn.

<Ningyo no Mori in Rumic World>

      The disc says "Rumic World" in katakana in the upper right corner of the
cover but it doesn't have the opening screen of other Rumic World discs.


                                 --- Chris
From: okamoto@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jeff Okamoto)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 01:45:16 GMT
Subject: Re: THE 'Press-Person' (WAS: Re: EXPO:  Has anyone heard about...)
Organization: An-Pan Man Headquarters
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime

7100P%NAVPGS.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Jeff Siegel) mentions:

> (he basically stated that there was no truly professional anime magazine
> published in the U.S. because the existing ones had unreliable publication
> schedules and didn't pay their contributors in money)

Well, I guess the checks I've received from Animag, Inc. are just raspberries.
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From: rang@thoth.ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang)
Subject: Re: Trouble finding this movie ____?????
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Reply-To: rang@ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:48:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.023011.4010@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good) writes:
>Okay, about a year ago, I was at a club and they were playing some anime on
>the television sets all over... It was the neatest thing I have seen since
>Akira.  I have never been able to find it, or any hints of it anywhere.
>Hopefully, somebody out there can help.

>Here's what I can remember:

>There is a motorcycle gang... but not really futuristic like in Akira.
>Their city is attacked by tanks and planes and all kinds of goodies.
>The gang starts fighting the tanks, and at one point a member gets into
>a large crane-type object and starts smashing the tanks, but a tank gets
>in a shot, and the huge crane object falls down into a pit.
>There are lots of scenes where tanks are going through the city blasting
>away, while civilians are runing around screaming while the shells go right
>over their heads.

This is the Venus War movie.  Uses a weird mix of animation and live
footage for backgrounds in parts, which wasn't that good.

                                        Roger P. Ang (rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu)
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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Sailor Moon
Keywords: Renting at Yaohan
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:23:24 GMT

In article <n_qmj8g.albertw@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.211720.6497@ntmtv> takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi) writes:
>>I think the transformation cry is something like: 
>>	MOON POWER---MAKE UP!!!!
>
>I thought it was "Moon Prism Power--Make Up!"...gads I'm starting to
>become a full fledged Sailor Moon otaku.  Oops, I used the "O" word
>again. ^_^;
>| Albert Wong                                                               |

Whoops!  Yep, you're right.  Well, I can't be expected to remember
*everything*, can I?  :-)

(Note that I *didn't* use the 'O' word... :-))

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