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From: rharnaga@ARISTOTLES.RUTGERS.EDU (Robert Harnaga)
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Subject: Re: terminal programm supporting TCP/IP protocol
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:12:27 GMT
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 > Hi,
 >
 > is there any PD terminal software package available that supports
 > TCP/IP protocol via the serial interface? I would like to log into
 > a HP workstation network. The network has modem access, but a TCP/IP
 > protocol is required. A simple terminal emulator (VT100, for example) is
 > not enough...
 >
 > Any suggestions?
 >
 > Peter
 >
 >
 > ==============================================================
 >
 > Peter M. Krummrich
 > Institut fuer Hochfrequenztechnik
 > Technische Universitaet Braunschweig
 > Schleinitzstrasse 21-24
 > W-3300 Braunschweig
 > Germany
 >
 > Tel.   : ..49/531/391-2494
 > Fax    : ..49/531/391-5841
 > e-mail : i7091202@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (BITNET)
 >
 > ==============================================================
 >

AmigaNOS might be what you could use.  I use it with a SLIP connection on my
A500, but I notice that it has a TCP/IP setup to it (? apparently)

I can't find any docs for it though (except for the sad online help).

Robert



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From: CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
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Subject: New Products
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:08:49 GMT
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I noticed some 'new' products in the latest AmigaWorld, and wondered
if anyone had some information on them...

1) Creative Computers is selling an A500+HD+w/40mb LC HD...$399
   I've never seen the 'LC'.. does it mean Low cost?
2) Computer Basics, amoung others has the DataFlyer Express
   Is this a new version of the Dataflyer with the addition of the
   memory card?
3) In the same ad I saw a new HD for the A2000/A500. For the A500
   the 'Trifecta' promises an internal slot that would except the
   GVP 286 board. Who makes this, and what's the 'scoop?' They
   claim that it's the 'fastest' HD controller on the market.

BTW... Briwall is offering the Rochard 120 HD for the A500
for $549. It features IDE/SCSI, 8MB capacity, Quantam drive,
auto-switching power supply, games switch, and fan. It seems like
a good deal when compared to some of the other 'all-in-one' solutions.

p.s. Does anyone know if PP&S is shipping the A500 68040, or is it
on backorder due to the fire?
p.s.s. What's up with SUPRA? They have been VERY quiet. The only
activity I've seen is on their modems, and their summer cool sale.
They were supposed to come out with a 68030 for the A500, (and 68040
for the A3000/2000 ???) They seem to have yielded some of their
market to GVP.

Carlos
From: d9hh@dtek.chalmers.se (Henrik Harmsen)
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Subject: Re: Burst modes
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:34:00 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

dsr@LNS598.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Daniel S. Riley) writes:

>With 100% static column fast RAM, you can enable both instruction and
>data burst transfers.  Instruction burst is almost always a win, since
>so much of the access is sequential.  However, Commodore has determined
>that enabling data burst with the 68030 cache and typical Amiga programs
>is, on average, a slight lose (it looks great on benchmarks, which
>typically have lots of sequential data access, but it doesn't look so
>good on real programs).  So setpatch only enables the instruction burst,
>not data burst, as Commodore believe this gives the best overall
>performance.

I wondered about this... I have static column fast-ram in my A3000 and
I have both instruction and data burst mode on. That's what 'CPU' and
various benchmarks tell me anyway. But I _never_ see any difference 
in benchmarks when switching burst mode on or off... How come?

The benchmarks I've tested is Aibb4.61 and SysInfo and some others,
but never any difference in speed...

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From: aguru@WHERE.THE.GURUS.LIVE (Apprentice Amiga GURU)
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Subject: Re: Final Copy II
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:33:58 GMT
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 > Carlos Writes:
 > >
 > >BTW... I find it hard to believe that some Amiga Guru hasn't tried
 > >to write a program to convert otyer fonts to Final Copy format...

 > Erik writes:
 > Where are all those Amiga Guru Masters that are supposed to be out there??
 >

Maybe they are lurking in musty troll room (with axe mares on the
wall)... Waiting... waiting for an adventurer to out his lantern...

Zork
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From: rghester@eos.ncsu.edu (Rodney Hester)
Subject: Re: Links in AmigaDOS
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:42:32 GMT

In article <9210081507.AA05108@lns598.TN.CORNELL.EDU> "Daniel S. Riley" <dsr@LNS598.TN.CORNELL.EDU> writes:
>Janos Mohacsi infoka <mohacsi@FIX.FSZ.BME.HU> writes:
>
>>        I look for a cheap or a shareware diskoptimizer that can handle
>>the WB2.x links. Thanks in advance.
>
>Sorry, don't know of any...

Try ReOrg 2.33 on amiga.physik.unizh.ch.  2.04 and up, shareware, $10 US.
Handles both soft and hard links and is much faster than any other optimizer
available.  Can optimize floppies, hard drives, and fixed-size RAD drives.
 
- Rodney



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From: WAREP@WABASH.BITNET (Barghest)
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Subject: dead mice
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:50:00 GMT
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Hello all,
    I have a small problem with my new mouse.  It's fairly new at any rate,
purchased in late August. It is a Golden Image mous, and now refuses to
track to the right.  It will move up, down and to the left on the screen,
but not the right.  :(
    Any ideas as to what might be causing this utter foolishness?  It had
occurred to me that it MIGHT be the CIAs, but I might be off base.  Any
help that could be offered would be greatly appreciated.(That right-amiga-
shift-arrow-key business gets old REALLY fast :-)
    Thanks in advance.

Philip Ware
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Subject:      looking for Skip Sauls

        Sorry to take up bandwidth, but I'm looking for Skip Sauls...

        Skip, have you gotten any of my mail?
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From: JSJA@ALASKA.BITNET (Bullfrog)
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Subject: Re: VistaPro
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:15:38 GMT
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I purchased VistaPro 2.0 several weeks ago...  Well, I got a bad copy that
didn't work.  I can understand that, it happens.  Well, I called the
company and told them my problem...  They informed me that they were going to
send me a new copy of the program.  Plain and simple...  That was about
three weeks ago...  I'm still waiting.
   The program is supposed to be incredible.  Eventually I'll be able to
tell you what I think, I hope.

-Jeremy
From: CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
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Subject: Re: Final Copy II
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:00:20 GMT
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Arrrr! I went to make a backup of the program disk and
it said that it had an error.. So I guess I'll have to wait until I
get a new disk...
;-(
Carlos
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From: cshort@nmsu.edu (MetaPope, Internet in a Day Tour.)
Subject: Re: Networking on the Amiga
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:06:47 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:37:00 CST, Lance Tagliapietra <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU> said:
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>> Have you ever looked at DNet?  I found it quite capable for point to
>> point connections between two Amigas.  The docs say it can also be
>> used for Amiga<->BSD Unix networking.  With SerNet, it allows remote
>> mounting of filesystems across the network.  Quite useful.

i use dnet between my 500 and a sun workstation. it allows for
multiple login sessions, background file transfers and other nifty
things. it's all serial port driven and the speed is quite tolerable.
you can also use the dnet.device in term programs like vlt and run
them in conjunction with dnet. this provides the best of both
worlds(tm).

i'd definitely recommend dnet.
c.
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From: LANDAS88@SNYPOTVA.BITNET (The Large Guy with Buckwheat's Hair.)
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Subject: Re: Speakers
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:53:00 GMT
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>I have just traded up from the 1084s monitor to the Panasync C1381i
>and the flicker fixer. The image is better but my speakers are gone.
>I am running a laserdisk player through the Amiga and would like to
>hear some recommendations for a simple speaker replacement solution.

Hi,
   I did the same thing last year.  What I did to get myself Stereo Sound was
to purchase an 80 dollar boom box with CD/AUX input.   Of course this also let
me have a tape player and radio right near my computer.  I was considering just
running RCA cable from my computer to my existing stereo, but as a DJ I move my
stereo around quite a bit.  So the solution I found was the portable.  There
are self-amplified speakers advertised in TENEX.  I went with the Portable so I
could have a redio and tape right there, but if you don't want or need those
features the ones in tenex should do nicely.







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From: oahvenla@silver-surfer.cs.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi)
Subject: Cheap accelerators for A500
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:56:25 GMT

I'm thinking of boosting my trusty old A500 somewhat, and now looking for
cheap accelerator systems that give something for the money/trouble. Translate:
at least 68020&68881 (the latter maybe optional) and at least room for 2MB's or
up of 32bit RAM. Can anyone recommend anything? I wish there was something
like LUCAS that would fit in my case (A500 MB in a big PC case, so there's
room, if only the boards align properly), it could be even fun to make the 
accelerator myself... But I guess there isn't, as I haven't seen it, and I have
been looking. Any thoughts/ideas would be appreciated, I'm pretty clueless as
to what would be the best option...

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From:         Owen <91016@TAYLORU.BITNET>
Subject:      Which fish is better?

Now that I have a hard drive, I'd like to get a new aquarium program.  What's
best?  Fishcat? Aquarium?  What?
                                                                Kevin Shafer

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From:         YDEZTJA@IUP.BITNET
Subject:      RE:Help!! My amiga won't let me open icons/windows

It's probably your CIA chips!
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From:         "The Large Guy with Buckwheat's Hair." <LANDAS88@SNYPOTVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: WB 2.0 Questions

Date sent: 15-OCT-1992

>I'm looking to buy the Workbench 2.0 update (disks and ROMS).  I'm also
>looking to buy the ROM switcher, so that I can switch between 1.3 and 2.0.
>
>Here's my setup:
>Amiga 500 P (1 Meg RAM factory installed) w/ Fatter Agnus
>GVP Impact Series 2+ HD (50 Meg) w/ 2 Megs extended RAM
>Amiga 1011 drive, Amiga 1084s monitor, Aprotek AM2400 modem.
>
>Someone mentionned having to solder two pins on the 2.0 ROM.  Is this true?
>
>Also, will I get the 2.1 Workbench or the 2.04 Workbench disks, if I
>order now?  What's the difference?
>
>Also, my Fatter Agnus is not 1 Meg installed.  I heard that I have to do
>something to it?  Is this true also?
>
>Thanks for any help in these questions.
>---Jeff---

Jeff,
    The pins on the ROMS which I have seen come wired together, the only case
in which you would need to solder them toether is if you cut it for the
incorrect motherboard revision.  I just ordered 2.0 and when it was shipped to
me it was 2.04 not 2.1 I'm not sure if that's shipping as a special order or
not yet.  Grapevine Group out of N.Y. sells a Switch It switcher at the lowest
rate I have seen any switcher.  The switcher switches between the ROMS by
keyboard input.  When you hold down the CNTRL-A-A keys for 4-5 secs an audible
tone is heard and the switcher boots from the oposite ROM.  I have no idea
about the FATTER AGNUS since I thought a fatter agnus meant you would have 1
meg chip RAM, but maybe not. :)

-Nyle

P.S. Grapevine is advertised towards the back of every Amigaworld issue I can
remember. :)
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From: d88ml@efd.lth.se (Mats Larsson)
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Subject: IFF->Postscript ?
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:59:13 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden

Is there any program for tghe amiga that converts a 2-colour IFF-picture into 
postscript ?

Mats Larsson
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From:         "An Incarnation of Deva Winblood" <STU529655672@WSC.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sound modules *.mod

Sound modules...

CHECK WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU

/SYSTEM/AMIGA/AUDIO/MODS

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From: jonin@NETCOM.COM ((Daniel Joseph Oak))
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Subject: Re: your mail (drives clicking?)
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:47:07 GMT
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              13,
              92 11:19 pm

well you say your drives are driving you nuts with that clicking sound?
well fret no further...

if you have 2.04 that is. :)

use nickprefs.  there is a drive prefs that has some detailed info - but at
the smallest aspect you can silence the drives. :) I used it and the second
I tried it - that nasty noise went away.  Needless to say I am a happy customer.

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From:         ParaPsykotic <AGB001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
Subject:      Prelude To The Commodore Classifieds #9 - 10/16/92

Sorry everyone for the delay...

I got behind here at college and had to dig my way out of it and unfortunately
I was not able to publish the Commodore Classifieds in the meantime.
However, I HOPE to be able to keep on schedule from here on out.

Now, the only reason I was able to get out is because I go on Fall Break this
weekend and didn't want to have homework to do, so I got it done before time.
And I found I had some extra time, so I decided to get this done. But now
that I am caught up, I will be able to keep up. :) And I will make sure
not to get behind again...

In this issue, there are more items. Some new wanted, some new for sale.

If anyone wants to pass the Commodore Classifieds onto other networks, or
BBSes, or such, please do. I'd love to know where it is reaching. :)
If you want to place an item for sale or for wanted, just send me a message
and I will get back to you as soon as I can.

Also, if you have an item in here that is sold, please tell me so that I do
not pass information that you have the item for sale around still so that
you will not get annoying messages about it. Nobody wants that.

Thanks...

If anyone has any comments, just tell me. I'd love to hear them.

Tony Bossaller
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Sysop of Deja Vu BBS
(314)-894-9271
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:21:05 PDT
From:         EBRUC@CATGSG.DNET.HAC.COM
Subject: Re: DICE

Mark Dolecki writes:

>Getting the 2.04 Native Developer Update from C= is really a good idea,
>even if you have purchased a commercial compiler that already has the
>includes and libraries included.  I received the kit about a month ago.

Could you please explain how you ordered the product (exactly).  I have called
Commodore and the people I have talked don't know what I am asking for.  I even
have the part no. (NATDEV20), but no go.

Ed Bruce
edward@hac2arpa.hac.com
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Subject:      Re: PC emulation without Bridgeboard?

yes.  pc-task and ibem. archie has references to them and the demo
versions are on the fish disks.

bob
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Date: 7 Oct 92 17:27:28 GMT
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"(Richard W. Jamison)" <rwj@ENGR.LATECH.EDU> writes:
>The NeXT has always boasted FAST processors (low end was '030.  Now it's '040)
>and way cool video...

Sorry, this is way off topic, but...

4 shades of gray 1kx1k is "way cool"?  You're easily satisfied...(Yes, NeXT
does have some nice video options now, but the original cube did not have
"way cool" video, and it took a fair while for color to appear).

>The NeXT has always been marketed as a workstation.
>Commodore could learn a lesson or two from Mr. Jobs.

Like it or not, Commodore still makes most of their money off the A500/A600
class machines, and they clearly do *not* have an OS or hardware appropriate
for the Workstation market.  Commodore would not stand much of a chance in
the WS market with anything resembling the current Amiga line.  It's also not
obvious that Jobs is the person to emulate--the NeXT is still a minor player
with a few niche markets, and they are having some trouble holding on to
those.  (I do like Steve, and the NeXT, but NeXT has not been the unqualified
success you seem to think.)

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