From: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder)
Subject: Re: To the Clinton supporters
Organization: Quake Public Access
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:53:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.203632.12981@nntp.uoregon.edu> eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:
>>>(David Scharfe) writes:

>>>>I agree, Brian.  Clinton has incredible audacity to speak of "healing"
>>>>the nation while he plunders one group of people ("the rich") to 
>>>>influence the voting of another ("the poor").

>>>>This bald-faced promotion of class conflict, combined with shrill 
>>>>rhetoric about "healing", is the epitome of hypocrisy.

>Is anyone else amazed and appalled by the self-absorbed weeping over the
>poor (sic) abused rich-people?

Well, they ARE the only minority public officials don't feel ashamed of 
attacking.  If they said the kinds of things about "the rich" to blacks or
women, they'd be drawn and quartered.

>When was the last time any of you who are supporting this thread ever spent
>one electron of net resources or one calorie of you personal energy
>deploring, let alone doing something about, the physical, emotional,
>financial, and institutional attacks on the poor, minorities, Hispanics,
>Jews, Arabs, homosexuals, and so on??

Whenever I encounter such abuse on the net (or elsewhere) I criticize it,
but frankly, there is very little of it around (except maybe against gays).
You seem to be going under that false assumption that if one opposes unfair
treatment of the rich, that one must be in favor of unfair treatment of
everyone else.  That's just nonsense!  I'm in favor of justice for EVERYONE.
What I mean by "justice" is that people get the consequences (good or bad)
of their actions.  That ought to apply to the rich as well as the poor.

>When did you object to Pat Buchanan's invitation to "religious war"?  

I object to Buchanan all the time, particularly when he discusses religion.

On the other hand though, I DO agree with the basic idea he expressed regarding
a "culture war" afoot in the country (though I'm not sure he's quite got 
the right set of cultural assumptions).

>what
>did you do to change the realities that gave rise to Rodney King's beating?

What did I do?  I ducked and ran for cover as my neighborhood was being looted
by those who were "changing realities".

>What do you do other than look for ways to make arguments that "the rich"
>are somehow being oppressed in a way that is comparable to disadvantaged
>groups in society?

I don't really care to compare whether Leona Helmsley being tossed in jail 
for being rich and obnoxious is more or less unjust than any other crime.
I determine whether or not I think it's an injustice and I express my
views.  Does it matter whether being beaten by cops is more or less unjust
than tossing an old lady in jail for being rich?  I say they are both wrong.

I should also point out that if the government can get away with looting 
the rich, they can certainly get away with doing it to the "little people".
Why can't you just stand up on principle against injustice even against
those you hate/envy?

>You people are a bad joke!  I'll switch places in a minute with any of your
>poor little rich folks, and I suspect you would have a hard time finding
>any of them who would trade your worst senario for their lot in the Clinton
>administration with anyone who experiences real oppression.  

I suppose it might me more pleasant to be a millionaire and then be mugged
than to be a pauper and be mugged, but that hardly makes the crime any
less wrong.  Your pathetic envy is not very becoming.

--Brian

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