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From: x_jennings@vesper (Afterimage)
Subject: Western U.S. tour dates...??  Please?
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:36:00 GMT
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I need some help....!  I've been patiently waiting for Dream Theater to come
anywhere within a 600-mile radius of Billings, Montana... but no luck so
far!  If anybody has any western U.S. tour dates for Dream Theater, please
let me know!  Please please please!  Or if you have a phone number for DT's
management, so I can call and find some dates, drop me a line in e-mail!

Some of the cities that I am willing to drive to (which might be big enough
to draw DT) are:  Bismarck, ND ... Sioux Falls, SD ... Spokane, WA ... 
Boise, ID ... Casper, WY ... any city in Montana ... Regina, Saskatchewan 
and even Salt Lake City, UT or Calgary, Alberta if I'm really desparate.

I already heard about Denver on the 11th of February, but I have two exams 
that day!  I'm going to try to convince the teachers to let me take them 
early, but not likely...!  Please help a DT fan in need!

--Don

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From: steveb@meaddata.com (Steve Brooke)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Dream Theater in Detroit 1/22
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:45:06 GMT
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In article <1jhhj1INNnd0@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, hallg@egr.msu.edu (Gregory Hall) writes:
|> Dream Theater will be in Detroit this Friday January 19 at Harpos.
|> Harpos is a well known venue in Detroit so hopefully plenty of tickets
|> will be sold (and available).  By the way, how much have people been paying
|> to see DT and how long was their set?
|> 
|> Greg Hall
|> hallg@egr.msu.edu
|> Michigan State University

DT played Dayton, OH on Monday Jan 18th.  The concert was sponsored by
a local radio station, WTUE.  Tickets were only $5 but with a WTUE
listener card they were only $1.47!!!!!  They played at McGuffy's
House of Draft (38 beers on tap!!!!)  The place holds 450 people.  It
was sold out.  They played all 8 songs off I&W and 3 others.  I don't
have the first album so I'm not sure which ones they were.  One song
was instramental.  I talked to John Myung before the show and got his
autograph on the I&W CD insert.  Incredible concert....

They are also coming to Cincinnati's Bogart's on Sunday Jan 24th.


-- 
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From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: ***HELP!!!***
Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:17:23 GMT
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In article <93025.174707TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>, <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <4fMpwuW00iV305Z0t9@andrew.cmu.edu>, Kuei-Che Cheng
><kc3c+@andrew.cmu.edu> says:
>>
>>I am new to this group and I am very excited!!!
>>I need help in getting lyrics from a group that I truly admire, I thinks
>>they are one of the best HEAVY METAL group of all times. They are as
>>good as Black Sabbath. Bon Jovi and their recent album "Keep the Faith"
>>is a true classic.  I need the lyrics of "keep the faith".
>>By the way does anyone know their tour dates?
>>
>>
>>Christopher C.
>>
>>John Bon Jovi RULES!!!!!
>>
>
>Another flaming poser from carnegie mellon...the school seems to be
>infested with them.  Note:  We do not judge how heavy a band is by
>how much their album wieghts!!!!   So why don't you take your limp
>wristed poser ass the hell out of this newsgroup and bend into one
>you belong.
>
>--someday mother will die and I'll get the money
>Suaron
What does sSuaron think of my list of respectable non-DM bands?  Eric M.
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From: phil@news.ccutah.edu (Phillip Neiswanger)
Subject: Re: Steve Vai
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 05:59:00 GMT

phil@news.ccutah.edu (Phillip Neiswanger) writes:
: And for people who like his stuff, you will soon be able to add another
: album to the list.  His new one is due out soon.  I just saw an add for
: it in 'Guitar for the Practicing Musician'.  Drat, I left the mag at
: home so I can't tell you the name of the album.  Sorry.

Well, we can't have that.  The name of the album is "Light without Heat".
--
Phil
From: thavey@boi.hp.com (Tom Havey)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: uglykidjoe
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:26:18 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Hey rockhards...any of y'all dig Ugly Kid Joe?
Any of y'all know anything about 'em?
I think they're hot! I dig their sound and sense
of humor!

tom in boise
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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Here's one for Suaron
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:04:14 GMT

>
>I have to agree with this.  I admit that I wasn't even much into Metallica
>before their new album, but I think it's awesome and, regarding somebody's
>earlier comment about "why did they release Nothing Else Matters and not
>Through the Never"....it's because Nothing Else Matters is a great song.
>Metallica are totally cool.  'Nuf said.
>
None of the new songs are particularly bad but though I wasn't the one asking
why they released "Nothing Else Matters" instead of "Through The Never," I
think the latter would have been a better single though I like both songs.
Actually, I think singles should be songs that aren't on the album. I mean,
why would you pay $15 for the new disc, then have to pay $3-$12 (depending
on if it's a CD or cassette and single or EP) when 1/3 to 1/2 the songs you
already own? What a stupid idea. Well, it makes money, and people do buy it,
but it would just be cooler if bands still released all new material on singles
and EPs or at least different versions of what ended up on the album.

wei hao
Wang Wei Hao                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"I have loved, I have lost, I have killed those who have loved me so. I have 
 learned, but at what cost, Lord, I don't know... I'm living on borrowed time"
                       - Diamond Head, "Living On Borrowed Time"
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From: f36655e@taltta.hut.fi (Kalle Mikkola)
Subject: Re: Dio - what now? (YJM)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 23:42:37 GMT

>|> >>Plus, two men with enormous egos like RJD and Yngwie would last about as
      long as Dio did with an like Iommi...It would be interesting, and I think
      the two of them are admirers of each other, but it would NEVER work, IMHO
This may be true. I think they have both said that they are good friends but
cannot fit to the same band.

It is better to have them do it their own ways, but still it would be nice
to have one album made by them together.
Kalle Mikkola Q:"How many Zen masters does it take to change a light bulb?"
358-0-8036053 A4:"None. The Universe spins the bulb and the Zen master
kalle@leka.hut.fi "stays out of the way."
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:13:06 EST
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Just a Warning...
 <1993Jan16.010040.10037@news.columbia.edu> <93017.103238TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <C19D78.4Fv@cck.coventry.ac.uk>

In article <C19D78.4Fv@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, cbg033@cch.coventry.ac.uk (GM
Davies) says:
>
>Surely the subject of what is `METAL` and what`s not, is not decided by some
>moron writing under the Pseudonym of "SAURON" - of course it may be that the
>idiot couldn`t spell her own name (SHARON). It might be more appropriate for
>this neanderthal to write to a group such as "alt.IQ.too.low.to.be.measured".

The name is "Suaron" and its not mispelled!  I purposely have chosen that
spelling.  If you look in the dictionary you'll see "Sua" is pronounced
in the same way you would pronounce Suave.  Would you tell someone named
Browne that his last name is not spelled correctly since the word brown
doesn't have an E at the end?  And besides what right do you have to decide
that I don't have the right to decide what is and isn't METAL.

>That would then allow the rest of us to continue without the ravings of some
>deranged maniac..!!!!

Deranged maniac?  Me?  No, I'm far more gone than that!

>Stretch.

Look at your fuckin' name!!!  Stretch is not followed by a period unless
it is used in a sentence!!!!

>
>PS - Can anyone tell the difference between the latest DEF LEP & BRYAN ADAMS?

This question belongs in another newsgroup!!!  Quit using the rag on
Suaron then ask the poser question you originally wrote the article for.
Spew your poser propaganda elsewhere!!!

--the mocking religion of hatred that burns in the night
Suaron
From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Good vs. Bad Mellower Music
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:55:12 GMT
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In article <1993Jan26.223808.14522@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>Just for the record, I did not mention Skid Row, and I think that most of
>their shit sucks.
>As far as Def Leppard goes, I did say that they got old after listening to
>the CD for a few times.
>As far as Mr. Big goes, most of the songs that they have released is glamor,
>however, they have some really good songs (I think so, at least) that have 
>never been released because it would show what kind of band they really are.
>Van Halen, no matter what anyone says, nobody can even try to argue with me.
>	I will listen to nobody who says that they are bad. 
>		I think that they are on of the greatest bands around.
>I also wonder what you (Eric M. from Marquette) think about Metallica. I now
>like them because I have never liked music much heavier than hard rock, but
>no I like them because I think that they have become more popularity based
>I think that they sold out to appeal to the non heavy metal/hard rock fans &
>sell CDs.	--	Do you like Metallica now, before, or ever??
>
>I remember now.  I remember how it started.  I can't remember yesterday, I
>just remember doing what they told me, told me, told me....
>	Michael Burstin		Brandeis University
I don't think Metallica "sold out"; I think it's possible their own desire
to change their musical direction somewhat coincided with the tastes of 
people into not as heavy of stuff.  I was disappointed with their latest
release at first, but now I'd have to assess it as a good very, very
hard rock release (as opposed to their speed metal stuff).  It's not
as intense as Lightning through Justice, but I'd probably take it over
Kill 'Em All, and it's definitely lyrically more impressive.  People
that accuse metallica of being sell-outs generally apply the "sell-out"
label in a cliche' fashion.  It will be interesting to see what their
next release is like.  Eric M.
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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:36:37 GMT

>
>>"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
>>Guns N' Roses
>
>I thought you said Axl Rose was "such an asshole".  I also recall you saying
>"don't listen to band X because the vocalist's an asshole."
>
>From your twisted point of view, if you keep using your stupid biased
>unfounded arguments to prove that "band X is a poser band and should not be
>listened to and it's not heavy metal", sooner or later there will be no
>metal.  Nothing should be listened to.  All bands are posers.  Surely, there
>must be that one non-poser band out there.  If there is, maybe I could
>pretend I'm you and use stupid unfounded biased arguments like you to prove
>that they're posers and they shouldn't be listened to.
>
 
Actually, Darren, after reading his post again, I think what he's doing is
that "pot calls the kettle black" sort of thing (new phrase I learned), 
throwing obvius targets of sellouts plus some weird stuff in between and
using Suaron's and Maple's "logic" to make the whole thing look stupid.
You noticed the Axl Rose thing, and also notice he mentions Danzig but his
.sig has a Misfits quote. 

Then again, I could be wrong and he's just being weird, since I don't know this
guy personally. Why are we talking about posers again anyway? This is getting
as bad as rec.humor where the same things are posted fifty times a day. (Only
rec.humor is worse because there are more subscribers.)

wei hao
Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
 we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
 control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
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From: biswick@ms.uky.edu (Chad Hall)
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:36:15 GMT

Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I have the tape Speak English or Die and it says "Diamonds and
>Rust:extended version" and it actually does go on for a while. I assume
>that this is the Joan Baez song that Judas Priest also covered.

The vinyl, CD and cassete versions that my roomate or myself own all say
extended version, and they're all 2 seconds...

biswick.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:47:07 EST
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: ***HELP!!!***

In article <4fMpwuW00iV305Z0t9@andrew.cmu.edu>, Kuei-Che Cheng
<kc3c+@andrew.cmu.edu> says:
>
>I am new to this group and I am very excited!!!
>I need help in getting lyrics from a group that I truly admire, I thinks
>they are one of the best HEAVY METAL group of all times. They are as
>good as Black Sabbath. Bon Jovi and their recent album "Keep the Faith"
>is a true classic.  I need the lyrics of "keep the faith".
>By the way does anyone know their tour dates?
>
>
>Christopher C.
>
>John Bon Jovi RULES!!!!!
>

Another flaming poser from carnegie mellon...the school seems to be
infested with them.  Note:  We do not judge how heavy a band is by
how much their album wieghts!!!!   So why don't you take your limp
wristed poser ass the hell out of this newsgroup and bend into one
you belong.

--someday mother will die and I'll get the money
Suaron
From: anarch@Apple.COM (The Anarch)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Keywords: joke jest facetious humor wit sarcasm satire irony
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:27:10 GMT
Organization: Secular Humanists from Hell

biswick@ms.uky.edu (Chad Hall) writes:
>Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Anthrax-
>>	As has been pointed out, Kiss is probably the favorite band of this
>>group or at least of Scott Ian (who also listens to rap. Arrrggghhhh!
>>Everyone knows black people can't produce good music. We have the word
>
>Typical G'n'P fan from what I can tell so far...pretty racist.
>[Deletions]
>>S.O.D.
>>	I am including this group here mainly because they did a Nirvana cover
>>tune on their Live at Budokan album. Also this group features Scott Ian
>>(see Anthrax above). They also did a Joan Baez cover tune on Speak
>>English or Die (Diamonds and Rust). Yuck! Not a metal band.
>
>Ya know, this kinda leads me to believe you've never listened to them.
[and more...]

It kinda led me to believe that the post was a *joke* (there were some other
clues as well).  A pretty funny one, too.  Thanx Eric.

-- 
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From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (lucifuge)
Subject: Re: yngwie j. howeveruspellit
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:04:46 GMT

In <1993Jan21.033537.22888@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:

>Suaron, are you aware of Glenn Danzig's orchestral / soundtrack-type
>album BLACK ARIA? Glenn Danzig even says the album isn't a heavy metal album.
>Actually, he says it's not even a rock album. 

I'm aware of it, but not of how to get a hold of it. What label's it on?
Is it worth listening to? 

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From: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Subject: Re: Death News
Reply-To: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:13:51 GMT

In article <93019.184759TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>The band Death are preparing to begin recording there fifth album.
>Sean Rienhard the drummer on the Human album will also be the drummer

Actually, I heard pretty recently that Gene Hoglan (Dark Angel) will be
the drummer for the next one.  (Cynic's album is still being put off due
to hurricane damage, last I heard.)

BTW, Lamb Lies Down On Broadway is a pretty good album, although agreeably
not metal.  (I supposed you've never liked any non-metal in your life, have
ya?  Poser indeed.)

Good to have ya back, jerkee.



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  OOOOO /OO /OO /O /OO /O      and bullshit walks..."  "Every song's a hit!"
From: rhogg@cs.strath.ac.uk (Richard J J Hogg CS92)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden info?
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:18:52 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
Originator: rhogg@simpson-09.cs.strath.ac.uk



In article <1993Jan25.192911.6932@newstand.syr.edu> ejrasiel@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Ethan J. Rasiel) writes:
>I am attempting to collect information on Iron Maiden.  If anyone has
>any interviews, bibliographies, reviews, articles, personal opinions,
>anything like that, I would love to see it.  


> (etc etc etc)


>Is Weekend Warrior about role playing games?  It would seem so.

No... it's about the `hooligans' etc in the U.K. that just go out at the weekends just to get into a fight..

Hope that's some help...


Rich.


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From: phlegm@cs1.bradley.edu (Kevin Bourrillion)
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Organization: Silvery Urban Deity
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:25:01 GMT

feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin) writes:

>its amazing how many morons out there dont recognize sarcasm

It's amazing how many morons out there don't know how to indicate it.

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From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: (no subject given)
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:28:52 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu's message of 21 Jan 93 04:14:23 GMT

In article <93020.231423TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
| I've heard alot of bands, and I also don't know all the names of the
| bands I heard.  I don't have infinite knowledge of all metal bands in
| existance.  That's what this newsgroup is for to introduce new metal
| to others and talk about METAL BANDS.  I don't want poser bands cluttering
| up this newsgroup.

I want to read discussion of metal too. I couldn't give a shit whether or
not you want to call them posers. So piss off, dickhead.

--
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undergraduate at the University of Essex, UK.
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From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: How to spell Yngwie
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:02:39 GMT
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In article <1993Jan26.223602.24795@nntp.hut.fi> f36655e@taltta.hut.fi (Kalle Mikkola) writes:
>In article <C1CpD2.FJM@matilda.vut.edu.au> jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
>>>Malmsteen sucks. There is no feel in his playing--it seems like the whole
>>>purpose of his songs is to find out how many notes he can play in a certain time
>>I agree with you. I also think the same about Steve Vai and Joe
>>Satriani. They may be technically good but thats about all.
>
>[Stuff deleted]
>He also writes guitar-lines as they need be showing to himself even
>less mercy that to others. Just listen to "Trilogy" where he play
>about 20 Hz on an acoustic guitar or "Soldier Without Faith" where
>the speed goes over 30 Hz. And the fingering may be very hard and
>still very accurate there. His usual 10-20 Hz is very slow for him,
>he just thinks it sounds best that way!
>
Just outta curiosity, do you have any speed ratings for other players as
well. I'd be interested how Vinnie Moore stacks up to Y. Out of curiosity
I compared once a Guy Mann Dude record to a Vinnie Moore record, by slowing
down the pitch of my CD-player (yes worx on mine). While Dude was
playing slow on the lowest pitch, Moore still sounded fast. Quite incredible.

Yes, yes spare the 'speed isn't everything' comments..

Nat!
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