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From: macrakis@osf.org (Stavros Macrakis)
Subject: Re: Best gyro/doner/shwarma
Organization: OSF Research Institute
Distribution: ne
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:52:41

In article <1992Nov10.193209.44240@kronos.com> dan@kronos.com (Dan Driscoll) writes:

   ...Ararat's restaurant and take-out at 71D Arlington St in
   Watertown (up a side street from the Mall). They hand-slice the
   meat of the rotisserie skewers as you order....  They prepare great
   chicken shawerma (shawarma, shwarma, I've seen this spelled 3
   different ways so far).

In article <1992Nov10.164939.17318@husc3.harvard.edu>
   khoo@husc3.harvard.edu <Lawrence Khoo> says:

   The Sabra Grill on Eliot St, just of JFK Street in Harvard Square has real
   shwarma.  They get pieces of chicken breast, stack it on a skewer and roast it.
   They are the only place I have seen who do that.

Thanks to Dan and Lawrence.  This is the first I've heard of chicken
shwarma/gyro/doner, one of the symptoms of lipophobia I suppose?  Has
anyone seen such in Greece, Turkey, or the Arab countries?

Chicken breast being one of the driest meats around, I wonder what
they do to keep it juicy?  Baste with butter?  (XXX I didn't say that.
Butter must be illegal by now.)  With lamb, you don't have this
problem (since they cut it with pieces of fat) (XXX wrongthink meat
fat is saturated fat therefore bad bad bad repeat please).  In fact,
the standard Middle Eastern practice is to dip the bread into the
drippings....  (A practice now believed to be as hazardous as eating
from lead plates and salting your well-marbled steak with asbestos.)

As for hand-slicing as you order, I guess I take <<that>> for granted.

	-s

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From: macrakis@osf.org (Stavros Macrakis)
Newsgroups: ne.food,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.arabit
Subject: Best gyro/doner/shwarma
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:22:30 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: OSF Research Institute

NOTE: this posting is intended for New England only (but many news
systems ignore the Distribution field).

Does anyone know of a restaurant in Boston that prepares real "gyro"
(the Greek name), "doner kebab" (the Turkish name), or "shwarma" (the
Arabic name)?

Every place I've seen seems to use ground meat, and not sliced meat,
to make the mound of meat.  In fact, they buy it ready-made.  And they
all seem to use the same bland undercooked pita and cheap iceberg
lettuce....

	-s
From: babs@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (Babs Woods)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: indian groceries query
Keywords: acton boxboro
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:57:41 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Our Lady of Perpetual Mirth (Pacifica)


We're currently househunting in the Acton-Boxboro area (leaning
heavily towards Boxboro), and looking for Indian groceries in the
area.  Anyone know of any that far out?  We know of a few around
us, like one in Union Square, Somerville (we haven't been there),
and another in Central Square, Cambridge.  We aren't aware of any
way out by Acton or Boxboro and would love to find one.  If we don't, 
my husband will likely starve after we move....

				-babs

-- 

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	- hadley@ics.uci.edu (Ted Hadley)
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com (Santa Wiryaman)
Subject: Re: indian groceries query
Keywords: acton boxboro
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:54:57 GMT

In article <BxDHC7.42z@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM> babs@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (Babs Woods) writes:
>
>We're currently househunting in the Acton-Boxboro area (leaning
>heavily towards Boxboro), and looking for Indian groceries in the
>area.  Anyone know of any that far out?  We know of a few around
>us, like one in Union Square, Somerville (we haven't been there),
>and another in Central Square, Cambridge.  We aren't aware of any
>way out by Acton or Boxboro and would love to find one.  If we don't, 
>my husband will likely starve after we move....
>
>				-babs

Joyce Chen on Great Road (Rt. 2A) in Acton carries some Indian food stuff.
Other than that, I think you have to go to either Framingham, Lowell, or
Burlington.


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Newsgroups: ne.food,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.arabic
From: ertas@athena.mit.edu (Mehmet D Ertas)
Subject: Re: Best gyro/doner/shwarma
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:03:50 GMT

In article <MACRAKIS.92Nov10205241@lakatos.osf.org>, macrakis@osf.org (Stavros Macrakis) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov10.193209.44240@kronos.com> dan@kronos.com (Dan Driscoll) writes:
|> 
|>    ...Ararat's restaurant and take-out at 71D Arlington St in
|>    Watertown (up a side street from the Mall). They hand-slice the
|>    meat of the rotisserie skewers as you order....  They prepare great
|>    chicken shawerma (shawarma, shwarma, I've seen this spelled 3
|>    different ways so far).
|> 
|> In article <1992Nov10.164939.17318@husc3.harvard.edu>
|>    khoo@husc3.harvard.edu <Lawrence Khoo> says:
|> 
|>    The Sabra Grill on Eliot St, just of JFK Street in Harvard Square has real
|>    shwarma.  They get pieces of chicken breast, stack it on a skewer and roast it.
|>    They are the only place I have seen who do that.
|> 
|> Thanks to Dan and Lawrence.  This is the first I've heard of chicken
|> shwarma/gyro/doner, one of the symptoms of lipophobia I suppose?  Has
|> anyone seen such in Greece, Turkey, or the Arab countries?

Doner made from chicken breast has become quite popular in Turkey in the
past few years. I remember the sudden emergence of this new doner when I
was in college in Ankara. (And Ankara, where the famous "yaprak doneri" is
soooo tasty :-) It was a push on the side of big chicken farms to sell their
product, I suppose. I recall it as being much juicier and tastier than I would've
 expected. It was received well, sice it tasted good and was unquestionably
healthier and lighter than lamb. (Of course, it is NOT a substitute for real doner,
I see it more as an alternate food item, something quite different.)
I don't think it has quite made it to all parts of the country, though. 

|> Chicken breast being one of the driest meats around, I wonder what
|> they do to keep it juicy?  Baste with butter?  (XXX I didn't say that.

Actually, when you roast chicken breast, the inside remains quite juicy.
By "juice", though, I don't mean "fat".

|> Butter must be illegal by now.)  With lamb, you don't have this
|> problem (since they cut it with pieces of fat) (XXX wrongthink meat
|> fat is saturated fat therefore bad bad bad repeat please).  In fact,
|> the standard Middle Eastern practice is to dip the bread into the
|> drippings....  (A practice now believed to be as hazardous as eating
|> from lead plates and salting your well-marbled steak with asbestos.)
|> 
|> As for hand-slicing as you order, I guess I take <<that>> for granted.

I agree, nevertheless, at places where sales are fast, they sometimes pre-slice
them. Of course, never like Mc Donald's. 

|> 
|> 	-s

Deniz Ertas
From: soph@bass.bu.edu (sophia hwang)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Chinese food in Brighton area
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:03:25 GMT
	<1992Nov4.144625.23274@engage.pko.dec.com>
Distribution: ne
Organization: What do you mean *I* can't do that????
In-reply-to: wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com's message of 4 Nov 92 14:46:25 GMT

try taiwan restaurant or noble house on beacon.  there is also a small take
out place right by cappacino's (sp?) on beacon.  on comm ave at BU there is
the beijing (good lunch specials).  there is a cantonese family running a
small place on comm ave near t anthony's on the bu campus.  and somewhere, 
i always find their ads, is china garden.  all these aren't really brighton
area, but brookline, not too far from the brighton area, i think.  good
luck! :)
soph
From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Brunch in Worcester
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:45:13 GMT
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Distribution: ne

Brian Winter writes
>I'm looking for suggestions for good places to have brunch in 
>Worcester, MA. I'm looking for something with a little more 
>character than, say, Abdou's. Any suggestions?

That's Abdow's...

That aside, Charlie's Eating and Drinking Saloon in the Greendale
Mall is a great place for brunch.  I'd also suggest Tom Foolery's
in Westboro (on Route 9).  The 99 on Route 12 in Greendale is
probably OK.

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From: cpalmer@dingo.rtp.dg.com ()
Subject: Indonesian/Malaysian food in New England
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:38:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data General Corporation, Westboro MA
Keywords: Indonesian, Malaysian

All this talk of Indo/Malay restaurants in San Francisco has
got me going.
Does anybody know of ANY Indonesian or Malay restaurants in the
New England or Southern Quebec areas????
Pleeeaase !
I know about the Andover Inn near Boston, but I am looking for
more than just Rijstaffel.
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From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Sante Fe Cafe--West Boylston, MA--Excellent Tex-Mex
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:21:46 GMT
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: ansible.pubs.stratus.com

The Sante Fe Cafe is the latest good restaurant to open on Route 12 in West  
Boylston in the last few years.  It's in the Fair Plaza, where Arturo's used to  
be.  

The Sante Fe makes its own tortilla chips!  The BBQ is very good.  We were  
there last Friday night and it was full by 6:30.  It's a little more expensive,  
and has a nicer atmosphere than, say, Willy's in Westboro (another very good  
Tex-Mex/BB  place), but it's definitely worth it.

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From: llew@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Lok C. Lew Yan Voon)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Brunch in Worcester
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:45:14 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <7921@transfer.stratus.com> winter@osn.sw.stratus.com (Brian Winter) writes:
>
>I'm looking for suggestions for good places to have brunch in 
>Worcester, MA. I'm looking for something with a little more 
>character than, say, Abdou's. Any suggestions?
>

never had a "proper" brunch. but some places are: worcester art museum,
beechwood inn, maxwell silverman, marriot (downtown), tiano (grove st.),
ramada inn (auburn). 
i would give WAM a try. beechwood, you probably get value for your money.
the reason i haven't had brunch at the other places is because i think
the prices are inflated, something like $15-20 pp. i once paid $15
at a 4* hotel restaurant in cincinnati for a most royal feast, complete
with piano music, waitress, ... i don't think any of the worcester
places (except maybe wam and beechwood) can come close.
From: sultan@buast7.bu.edu (Peter Sultan)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Chinese food in Brighton area
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:08:30 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <Bx9KrM.64F@world.std.com> mhessman@world.std.com (Mark D Hessman) writes:
>The "small take-out place right near Capucino's [no typo, I think] on
>Beacon Street" is Yu's Take Out, and it has a room of tables for those
>who want to eat in as well. I was there Tuesday night for a brief pre-
>election bite... the food was not exceptional, but certainly good, and

I would warn people against Yu's.  My wife and I found what we
thought was a rat turd in one of their take-out noodle dishes,
and the same week we read in the local newspaper that Yu's had
been cited repeatedly by the Brookline Health Dept. for, among
other things, rodent infestation.  You could still chance it,
but we've taken Yu's off of our 'active list'.

                              - Peter
From: shari@wpi.WPI.EDU (Shari Deiana)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Brunch in Worcester
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:57:15 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <7921@transfer.stratus.com> winter@osn.sw.stratus.com (Brian Winter) writes:
>
>I'm looking for suggestions for good places to have brunch in 
>Worcester, MA. I'm looking for something with a little more 
>character than, say, Abdou's. Any suggestions?
>

I recall the Marriott downtown having a really nice brunch (although be
prepared for the $$.)  You might call and ask them, since they have changed
the restaurant's name and style since I was there.
From: jcipolla@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (John Cipolla)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Looking for neighborhood bakeries
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:12:09 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

Try "Today's Bread" in Jamaica Plain.
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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Subject: Best Falafel was Re: Chinese food in Brighton area
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston
	<1992Nov4.144625.23274@engage.pko.dec.com>
	<SOPH.92Nov4160325@bass.bu.edu> <Bx9KrM.64F@world.std.com>
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:26:06 GMT

One of the best falafel places around is Moody's Falafel Palace, 
25 Central Square, Cambridge. This is the old White Castle building
near the police station. They have a wonderful falafel for $2.50 or
$2.75 (I forget which) on a warmed pita. They also make a GREAT grape
leaves pita sandwich and mighty fine kibbe. Small salads are $0.99

  Unfortunately their schwarma cooker has been broken for ages. I wish
they'd fix it 'cause it would probably be great! Also this place has
something like three tables...an unlikely location for such great
sandwiches! 
  
  The Skewers in Harvard Square has decent falafel but at higher
prices. They charge even higher prices if you sit down.
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From: brett@ice.East.Sun.COM (Brett Berg)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: New Restaraunt in Exeter New Hampshire
Date: 11 Nov 1992 19:09:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: brett@ice.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: ice.east.sun.com


I was in Exeter New Hampshire and ate at a newly opened restaraunt that I highly recommend. The
atmosphere is quaint and different with a wide range of food selections. The prices are very cheap,
but not to the expense of quality and taste. It is called The Eccentric Lady and is located at the
intersection of rtes' 108 and 101 in Exeter New Hampshire. It is actually inside the Stuff and Such
gift shop, but not a part of it.  Check it out. I believe it is open for lunch and an early dinner only. 

Brett Berg
From: marie@guppy.ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: indian groceries query
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:48:54 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Distribution: ne
Reply-To: marie@ai.mit.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: guppy.ai.mit.edu
Keywords: acton boxboro

India Tea & Spices, on Common St. in Belmont may be an option for 
you, although their selection is not as extensive as the Somerville
or Central Square stores.

Marie Lamb
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: mhessman@world.std.com (Mark D Hessman)
Subject: Re: Chinese food in Brighton area
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:21:21 GMT

The "small take-out place right near Capucino's [no typo, I think] on
Beacon Street" is Yu's Take Out, and it has a room of tables for those
who want to eat in as well. I was there Tuesday night for a brief pre-
election bite... the food was not exceptional, but certainly good, and
the prices were by and large the best I'd seen anywhere. I had a hot &
sour soup ($1.75) and a small (which was still a heaping plateful!) of
'house special fried rice'--chicken, pork, shrimp and countless veggies
($3.50)... a good and filling dinner for $6-something including tip.

We're getting kinda far from Brighton, by the way -- that area of Beacon
Street, Coolidge Corner, is deep in the heart of Brookline. Coolidge
Corner has no end of respectable Chinese restaurants -- Yu's, Noble House
(which is somewhat upscale but not ostentatiously so and has great food),
Hong Kong Kitchen, Beijing III, etc ad infinitum. Just off Beacon on
Harvard is Chef Chow's House, unpretentious and affordable but still a
step up from the take-out places. And further down Harvard is the relatively
new Orchid Village, similar to Chef Chow's but slightly better food and
definitely better decor.

Now here's my question: Where's the best falafel in the Boston area?

                                                          -- Mark
From: winter@osn.sw.stratus.com (Brian Winter)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Brunch in Worcester
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:46:03 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering


I'm looking for suggestions for good places to have brunch in 
Worcester, MA. I'm looking for something with a little more 
character than, say, Abdou's. Any suggestions?

Brian
winter@gressenhall.sw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: Jonathan Rosenberg <jxr@thumper.bellcore.com>
Subject: Re: Video on demand --- info requested
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 14:16:30 GMT

From: nobuko@heel.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nobuko (Koko) Nathan)
Subject: Video on demand --- info requested
Date: 5 Nov 1992 01:27:53 GMT

> I am doing a survey of research on "Video on demand".
> The idea is to keep a library of video data (e.g.
> video tapes for movies) and let users to down load
> whatever they want to their TV set at home through
> telephone line, or some kind of communication lines.
> I know the data set is too large for the telephone
> lines we have today,

Depends what you mean by "telephones lines".  If you mean the phone
network that runs to residences today, then yes, you're quite right (the
best you can attain on those right now is about 14.4 kb/s, with a
modem).  But there is a technology that is beginning to move out of the
lab that can support T1 rates (1.544 Mb/s) to most residences over the
existing copper plant.  This technology is known as ADSL (Asymmetric
Digital Subscriber Line).  If MPEG I-encoded video is acceptable to
people for entertainment video, then ADSL will support video-on-demand.

> but do you know anybody who is
> working on this type of project?  Or are you working
> on it right now?  If you do, please send me a mail.
> I'd like to get some information.  Any lead is
> appreciated.  Many thanks in advance.

Try the following for starters:

A. D. Gelman, H. Kobrinski, L. S. Smoot, S. B. Weinstein, M. Fortier and
D. Lemay
"A Store-and-forward Architecture for Video-on-demand Service"
IEEE ICC '91, Denver, CO

JR
From: knaru@gumby.Altos.COM (Kim Naru)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Video Blaster
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:26:27 GMT
Reply-To: knaru@altos.COM (Kim Naru)
Organization: Altos Computer Systems, San Jose, CA

In article <1992Nov10.103347.22366@u.washington.edu> rkimmel@stein.u.washington.edu (Denise Brown) writes:
>
> Can someone give me info on the Video Blaster by creative labs,
> or any other video hook up card for a 486?  
>
>
>thanks!

I tried out the Video Blaster card at a local computer store. The ms-dos
machines was running windows and the input for the video blaster was 
comming form a cd player.  The canned demo was quite impressive; though
the salesman did tell me I could not get the resolution shown in the
demo(?) The resolution supported by the card was 480x240(?),

While the demo was running I captured an image and saved it to file. I
tried two formats: bitmapped and gif. When I displayed the captured
image, it was not very clear and there were black lines about 2mm wide
running vertically through the entire image.  In, short I was not
impressed enought by this board to purchase it. If any one out there
has had a different experience, please post it.

Anyway I'm also looking for a video board, does anyone know whats
available for the IBM pc/clones?


--thanks


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Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: ramz@beta.lanl.gov (Thomas Rick Ramsey)
Subject: Re: Address for Abbate\
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:29:10 GMT

ABBATE Video
83 Main Street
Norfolk, MA  02056
508/520-0199
-- 
Rick Ramsey  ramz@lanl.gov  Los Alamos, NM  505/662-2447 evenings.
From: rs05@asylum.gte.com (Russ Sasnett)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Address for Abbate\
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:04:29 GMT
Reply-To: rs05@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

>>	I am seeking any pointers to Abbate, a vendor of controlers for 
>> mac-to-video-decks.  Many thanks!

Abbate Video has just expanded into new offices.

New phone numbers are as follows:

	508-376-3712 (voice)
	508-376-3714 (FAX)

They sell Mac and PC/Windows solutions for controlling
8mm decks from HyperCard or ToolBook, among other things.
Several people and companies I know have purchased Abbate
video control software and are very happy customers. 

--Russ
rs05@gte.com
From: ari@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ari Ollikainen)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Video on demand --- info requested
Date: 7 Nov 1992 20:46:45 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mordor.stanford.edu

In article <BxCwM4.n3F@rahul.net> jonathan@rahul.net (Jonathan Heiliger) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.141630.10937@walter.bellcore.com> 
>Or there is always 57.6Mb/sec lines which are just half of a T1.

I'll bet you meant  756kb/s  !

Ari Ollikainen
ari@es.net



Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: jonathan@rahul.net (Jonathan Heiliger)
Subject: Re: TV resolution?
Organization: a2i network
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:57:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.190043.1@mars.slu.edu> jesse@mars.slu.edu writes:

>What is the resolution of normal NTSC TVs?

   NTSC is an analog format with a total of 525 lines.  However only 485 lines 
are active.  The most universal is about 648x485 pixels; and NTSC cycles at 
approximately 59.94Hz.
 


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