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From: adam@sw.stratus.com (Mark Adam)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: THE QUIET EARTH
Date: 8 Jan 1993 05:02:42 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Jan5.101744.23491@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE>, k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai) writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.231333.18629@midway.uchicago.edu> ror1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> >
> >
> >Has any one out there seen the New Zeland film "The Quiet Earth" circa 1985?
> >
> >It is aboslutely not only one of my favorite sf films, but also one of my 
> >favorite films all around.  But the ending is a little vague, so I was
> >wondering other people's thoughts on it.

definitely one of my favorite movies of all time.

> >At the end, why does Zac look at the tape recorder he has somehow brought with
> >him to wherever he is, and then toss it to the ground (at least this is what
> >I seem to remember seeing)?
> As for throwing away the tape recorder, what's he going to do with
> it in his new locale? Seemed as if he was going to abandon his 
> previous life and start all over again on the new planet. Sensible
> move I think.
> 

as i recall, the scene has zac walking away from the camera with planet-rise
beyond the clouds. this goies on for a long time. then the shot changes to a
close-up of his face. he raises the tape recorder to his face and the instant he
gives the record a "strange" look the picture freezes.

i don't hink they ever showed him tossing it down; but, the look on his face
gives me the impression that was the next thing he would do. IMNSHO, the look
seemed to say "who the hell am i recording my observations for?"

> >If so, are all the humans brought back to life, or does "all reality" simply
> >maintain itself as it was after humanity was mostly killed off?
> >
> There wouldn't have been much point to Zac's sacrifice if it didn't 
> restore the planet to it's previous state.

remember all that stuff you hated in english: allegory, imagery, and all the
other rot they used to profess... well... DUCK!

i got the impression that the other two could serve as and adam and eve archetype
for restoring earth. zac, as one of the architects of the destruction, is the
serpent. this time things go differently and they all lived happily ever after.

-- 

mark ----------------------------
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From: cjd@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Christopher Dean)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Upcoming Films 1/12
Date: 13 Jan 93 01:21:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Please email me any additions and updates/corrections. If possible include the
source of your information.

      -Upcoming Films-

Jan 15: Alive, Body of Evidence, Nowhere to Run
Jan 22: Aspen Extreme, Damage, Hexed, Lorenzo's Oil
Januar: Army of Darkness: Evil Dead III, Delta Heat, Ethan Frome, The Giving,
	Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey, Matinee, Starfire, Strictly
	Ballroom, The Temp, Used People
Feb  5: National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1, Sommersby
Feb 19: Falling Down
Febuar: Amos & Andrew, Blood In... Blood Out, The Cemetery Club, Dragon,
	Groundhog Day, Hideous Mutant Freekz, Love Field, Mac, Oliver Oliver,
	Passion Fish, Riff-Raff, Sniper, Swing Kids, Untamed Heart,
	The Vanishing
March : Fire in the Sky, The Meteor Man, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III
April : Sleeping Beauty (re-release)
Spring: Body Snatchers, Josh and S.A.M.
June  : Dennis the Menace, Hot Shots Part Deux, Jurassic Park, The Last Action
	Hero, The Witching Hour
Aug 13: Friday the 13th: Jason Goes to Hell
August: The Coneheads, The Crow, Needful Things
Summer: Ghost in the Machine, Made in America, RoboCop 3, Snow White and the
	Seven Dwarves (re-release), Super Mario Brothers, Tom & Jerry: The
	Movie, A Troll in Central Park, Wizards 2
Novemb: The Addams Family 2, King of the Jungle 
Decemb: The Pebble and the Penguin, Philadelphia, Wolf
??????: Age of Innocence, Annie and the Castle of Terror, The Dark Half,
	Deadfall, Rising Sun

-1994-
??????: Aliens vs. Predator, Clear and Present Danger, The Mask

-1995-2000-: Star Wars I, Star Wars II, Star Wars III

??????: The American, Beyond Innocence, Black Cat Bone: The Return of
	Huckleberry Finn, Black Panther, Blankman, Blondie, "Bodies, Rest &
	Motion", Body Shot, Casper: the Friendly Ghost, Concrete, The Cool
	Surface, The Crossing Guard, A Dangerous Woman, The Demolished Man,
	Demolition Man, Die Hard 3, Dream Lover, The Fantastic Four, The Fly
	III, Forbidden Planet (remake), Fortress, Free Willy, Gilbert Grape,
	The Good Son, The Green Hornet, Heaven and Earth, The Hidden II,
	Highlander III: The Magician, A Home of Our Own, Household Saints,
	House of Cards, The House of Spirits, In the Line of Fire, Kings in
	Disguise, The Lawnmowerman 2, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, Maverick,
	The Men in Black, Mr. Magoo, Mother Night, Much Ado About Nothing,
	Organic Future, A Perfect World, The Phantom, Plastic Man, Posse, The
	Real McCoy, Richie Rich, The Saint, Sgt. Rock, The Shadow, Short Cuts,
	Sliver, The Son-in-Law, Spiderman, The Stowaway to Mars, A Stranger in
	a Strange Land, A Thief of Time, Time Cop, Trancers IV (Video),
	Trancers V (Video), Warlock: The Armageddon, Wayne's World 2, The Wild
	Wild West, Younger & Younger, Zone of Silence
From: nicolas@stam.nl (Nico Veenkamp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Star Trek VII ?!?!?!
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 13:24:15 +0100
Organization: Stam Tijdschriften bv, Rijswijk, The Netherlands

In <1992Dec31.184628.9492@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner) writes:
>In <C03686.1pI@idm.com> elr@idm.com (Eric L Reiner) writes:

>>Has anybody heard about Star Trek 7 - the movie?  A local TV station
>>has been broadcasting an anouncement about a Star Trek convention on
>>Jan 4 in Chicago where they will show (amoung other things) previews
>>of Star Trek VII.  Is this for real or are they trying to get me to a 
>>convention where I will be disappointed.  My understanding was that
>>ST VI was it, no more, thats all fokes, etc....  Any information would
>>be appreciated.

The guy who playes Sulu (I forgot who, I'm not that much of a Star
Trek fan) was on British television last week. He told the audience
that a seventh movie is forthcoming. Aparently with him as captain.


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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Alumni of T2
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:01:09 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

So what are the co-stars of _Terminator 2: Judgement Day_ up to now you ask?

Well most of you know that Arnie is coming out with _The Last Action Hero_
this summer, directed by John McTirnen (sp?).

Edward Furlong is playing the oldest offspring of Kathy Bates in _A Home of
Our Own_, who has to deal with her new abandoned house and six kids alone.

Robert Patrick has been very busy, and has been trying not to get stuck
in the T-1000 image.  He grew a beard for _Fire in the Sky_, sported glasses
and long hair for _The Cool Surface_, and will be 'blonde and gorgeous'
in the upcoming noir-ish thriller _Body Shot_.  His wife Barbara Patrick
plays a hooker in this film, but he will do all his love scenes with 
co-star Michelle Johnson (_Far and Away_).

Greg Bole                                  "A twelve-gague, double-barreled, 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  grenade-launcher of LOVE!"
                                           Steve Martin in _Leap of Faith_
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Searching for Star Wars
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:24:08
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu's message of 11 Jan 93 17:10:54 GMT

>>>>> On 11 Jan 93 17:10:54 GMT, mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu (*R*A*I*) said:

mcsweinberg> Does antyone know of a channel that airs or will air Star
mcsweinberg> Wars?  I would like to tape it.  I have a really poor
mcsweinberg> copy I got in the late 70's and since I have aquired good
mcsweinberg> copies of Empire and Return of the Jedi.  Rai.

CBS has the rights to Star Wars I believe. Why don't you just buy
them? Since the LBX VHS tapes came out, the Pan & Scan tapes can
probably be gotten cheap. If you can afford it though, GET the LBX
movies.


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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes--Nuclear War
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:48:16 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

Thanks for all the info on the _Planet of the Apes_ series!  I believe
I have seen them all, but it was quite a while ago, and fun to read
the outline of the whole history.

But I have another question:  Is it explained at all *how* the apes 
evolved to humanoid, speach-using, complex-tool-making creatures that 
revolted and later took over?

Greg Bole                            "We ride...to hell.  Or to glory.  
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu         It depends on your point of view."
                                Errol Flynn in _They Died With Their Boots On_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: darkstar@ravel.udel.edu (Jerry Of The Jungle)
Subject: Re: the Vader in DARTH VADER
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Summary: Here We Go Again
Keywords: just add water and stir...
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Distribution: galaxy far, far away...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:52:09 GMT

In article <Jan.5.02.08.36.1993.27146@dimacs.rutgers.edu> magarell@dimacs.rutgers.edu (christopher magarelli) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.060038.29639@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes:
>
> > Ever wonder about the name DARTH VADER? Check out this little session
> > with the electronic Webster dictionary I just had:
> > 
> > |webster>DEFINE VADER
> > |
> > |SPELLING
> > |1 voder
> > |
> > |webster>DEFINE VODER
> > |
> > |DEFINITION 0
> > |vo.der \'vo-d-*r\ n [voice operation demonstrator] : an electronic device
> > |that is capable of producing a recognizable approximation of speech
> > 
> > Does anybody know where the name DARTH VADER comes from really?
> > To me, it sounds like "DEATH VODER" -- The voice of death
> > -- 
> > ___                                ___               ,   ^             ,
> > =*=        Odisseas Kosmatos       =*=  "Cul bien vide, tete plein d'idees."
> > =*=    kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca   =*=
> > =*= shammer@mafalda.math.mcgill.ca =*=
>
>     To me, it always sounded like a contraction of "DARk deaTH
>inVADER".  There's another possibility -- Does anybody know if "vader"
>means "father" in some language?  It sounds like it might.
>

[.sig deleted]

Well, it's been discussed here before.  Apparently, vader means father
in Swedish or some other european dialect (I can't remember).  And well,
Darth sounds close enough to dark.  So supposedly, Darth Vader should
equal something like Dark Father.  Who knows?  Maybe if we can get a 
definite answer to this question, it should be put into the FAQ...


	--Jerry



-- 

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From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Luke and Leia confusion
Summary: You missed something important
Date: 9 Jan 93 05:12:38 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In previous article warden@midnite.pinetree.org (Tim Warden) writes:

>> How about this?  If Leia is Vader's daughter and Luke's sister, she must've
>> always had a certain amount of the force, even though she didn't know it.
>> How come Vader didn't sense it in the first movie when he was two inches in
>> front of her?  

I think you missed something: Just as Luke (Red Five) is doing his run in
ANH to destroy the Death Star, and right on his tail is Darth Vader, just
before Darth vader says "I got you now" and is afterwards pushed aside by
a blast to his side (the Millenium Falcon to the rescue!), Darth Vader says
"The Force is strong in this one". But he obviously doesnt care, and will
blast Luke anyways. So it's not as if he cares if anyone is strong in the
Force or not. The person who REALLY cares is the Emperor. (Later)

>This makes total sense to me.  Also considering, when Luke left Dagobough 
>Yoda was conversing with Ben... 
> 
>Ben: He is our last hope...
>Yoda: No, there is another...

It is known that the Force can be sensed from far away (example: when Alderaan
is blown up, Ben feels millions of voices crying out).

>The same line which is finished in ROTJ.
> 
>Tim
-- 
|o: "I am unarmed. Take your weapon and strike me down, with all of your    :o|
| :  hatred. Your journey towards the Dark Side will then be complete."     : |
|o:                                              -- The Emperor             :o|
| : Odisseas Kosmatos <kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca>  "Nous sommes les robots" : |
From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: X-Wing and the Mac
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:19:55 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

I recently e-mailed LucasArts about X-Wing and if they will make it for
the Mac.  Unfortunately, they said that (for some reason) the flight
engine won't work (something with porting it over I think).  I can copy their
actual response publicly, if anyone wants me to.

	Thanks
	Robert Fentiman

UseNet: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu
At: University of Minnesota, Duluth

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain)
Subject: Re: Comics 4 sale
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:40:50 GMT

I was checking out the latest issue of Comic Values Monthly, and the Star
Wars: Dark Empire #1,#2,#3 have all jumped up in value.  Number 1, first print,
was at $16, #2, first print, was $20.  It also noted that issue #2 had a very
low distribution for the first print.  Anyone have any numbers as far as how
low it was?  Sorry, I can't remember what the #3 issue was valued at.  Numbers
4-6 had not moved much.

Glenn..............

-- 
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University of Texas at San Antonio
College of Business Student Microcomputer Lab
HB 3.01.04  (512)691-4586
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: bdwest@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Alisia)
Subject: Re: Zahn's books
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:27 EST  

In article <1993Jan7.174620.29317@cc.umontreal.ca>, kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes...
>In article <ts#@byu.edu> julie@bones.et.byu.edu writes:
>>Zahn's books are very formulaic and poorly written, and I found them
>>very disappointing.  I'm surprised Lucas allowed such a thing to be
>>done, but I guess it's anything for a buck anymore.
>>
>>"You could use a good kiss!"		JULIE
> 
>I kind of liked the Zahn books and look forward to the third one.
>Since you say that, perhaps they could have been much better after
>all, but they were not as bad as the following: I just bought the
>"Han Solo Adventures" by Brian Daley, and halfway through the
>first story (after a most pathetic dogfight section) I was bored
>out of my wits. What a monotonous style of writing, and story.
> 

This just goes to show you how different people's taste are.  I hated the 
1st Zahn novel so much I couldn't finish it.  I loved all three of the Han 
Solo Adventures however.  Stayed up late night to finish'em.
Looking for the Lando series now.
From: redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Thanks for the help with SW oscars
Date: 8 Jan 1993 02:36:56 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan7.150017.5904@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) writes:
>
>Gee, it makes you wonder, what movie could possibly have beat out Star Wars 
>for best picture?
>

	Best Picture in 1977 went to _Annie Hall_, an incident
that angers me to this day.  I mean, I like Woody Allen, but
which one do you remember more?

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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Dark Empire value
Date: 7 Jan 1993 00:14:13 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


Here is what Oversteet #25 Jan/Feb issue says the value of Dark Empire
is right now.

Dec., 1991-No. 6, 1992 (2.95-cover, mini series)
Dark Horse
1 - Dave Dorman painted cover on all 		$20.00
1 - 2nd printing				$3.00
2 - (Scarce)					$22.00
2 - 2nd printing				$3.00
3 						$6.00
3 - 2nd printing				$3.00
4						$4.00
5, 6						$3.00

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From: hsc5505@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Questions
Date: 11 Jan 93 01:41:35 GMT
Reply-To: hsc5505@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Actualy I think Lucas wanted Wedge to be underdeveloped for some reason or another. He lives through everything as you mentioned. Obiously he has somethig big planned since he is the only one other than the main characters to survive all three movies. Plus there is always the possibility that Wedge doesn't want a promotion. 
	Either which way, I can't wait for the next movie. I'll definately be the first to see it!!!!!!!
				Dark Jedi
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:46:15 EST
From: <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: C3PO-gets a break

Well, Lando took notice of the box of 3PO parts before he took Han and the
others to see their guest.  He knew Chewbacca ("still hanging around with this
loser") and probably figured Chewbacca could pass the time tinkering with the
droid parts.  He had easy enough access to Han and Leia's cell without imperial
escorts so he probably just stuck the box in Chewie's cell so that the Empire
*wouldn't* incinerate poor 3PO.  Just my guess!
                                                 --Eric
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: Re: Thanks for the help with SW oscars
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:20:59 CST

In article <1iipc8INN9k7@shelley.u.washington.edu> redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.150017.5904@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) writes:
>>
>>Gee, it makes you wonder, what movie could possibly have beat out Star Wars 
>>for best picture?
>>
>
>	Best Picture in 1977 went to _Annie Hall_, an incident
>that angers me to this day.  I mean, I like Woody Allen, but
>which one do you remember more?


They don't give best picture to the movie most people saw.  If that were the
case, Home Alone would have gotten one.

Annie Hall is a good movie.  It's a little different than Star Wars, but it is
still good.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: umpatel8@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daywin Patel)
Subject: Hollywood Ins.
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:50:57 GMT

I have been reading this news group for some time now but this is my first
posting, so please forgive any errors made.

I resently saw a part of a show called Hollywood Insider. There was a very
short report on concerning Star Wars.

They claimed that Lucas was planninng on writting the next trilogy (not
sure if it will be the first or the last three) in the mid nineties. He
was also planning to make them back to back to cut costs. So I figure that
release dates will be closer to other.

They mentioned some reasons for why Lucas waited so long to continue with
Star Wars.

1. Lucas got burned out by making only Star Wars, so he wanted to do some
other stuff.

2. He wanted to improved the look of the movies even more (in sfx) , and
the current technology would not allow that. Thus the reason for his Light
and Sound (or something like that) Special Effects workshop.


Lucas also wants to do the third trilogy after that.

Thats all they mentioned, it was a short report.

I just have one question. Can anyone post a list of movies that George
Lucas has worked on? It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx.

"You came here in that thing? You're braver than I thought."
LEIA
From: x91newcastl1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Played X-Wing
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:09:49 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1isg3fINNhh8@girtab.usc.edu>, joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
> I just got back from the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas over the
> wend. LucasArts game division had a booth and they were showing off 
> X-Wing. I saw it running on a 486 with the grphics se to most detaiailed.
> It ran very smoothly and will be a GREAT thing to have when it comes out.
> WHEN it comes out...:). They said it will be released in Feb.
							   ^^^
AAARRRRGGGHH!  It was originally supposed to be released in November, but
has kept getting delayed....This is driving me nuts (and bolts).


> You could fly an X-wing, A-wing, or a Y-wing. The first mission disk to
> be released will let you fly a B-wing. 

YES! B-Wing!!!


The part about the CD-ROM game makes me want to shell out a few hundred $
 for a CD-ROM player!


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