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From: dsc3pzp@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Philip Perucci)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Some considerations when making a new Linux kernel
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:53:39 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <1993Jan24.005436.578@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>Mario Guerra (MGUERRA%UCRVM2.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu) wrote:
>
>: One should be careful of checking some parameters in the general Makefile:
>: 
>: - Check the root filesystem. The default is /dev/hdb1.
>: - Check the VGA MODE. I have a normal VGA card and the first time Linux
>:   asked for a SVGA mode....
>: - Check the RAMDISK line. If you want a RAM disk, uncomment the line.
>: - Check the KEYBOEARD you want to use.
>
>Also, make sure that the lines in mm/memory.c that bomb processes that write
>to code space are commented out (look for SEGV) if you are running uucp or
>certain releases of getty_ps.  I have to do that, because the latest version of
>getty_ps I can find will thrash if I don't.
>-- 

Could you elaborate?  I use getty_ps and have no problem.  Still, if I can
improve the kernel for my configuration...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pep@wicked.demon.co.uk (Phil Packer)
Subject: Re: Freeze up on X
Reply-To: pep@wicked.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.30 $
Organization: No chance
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:00:25 +0000

In article <1993Jan21.181502.23485@miles.com> dennisf@miles.com (Dennis Flaherty) writes:
> In article <1993Jan21.030531.3702@news.uiowa.edu> miranda@suspicion.eng.uiowa.edu (Johann Miranda) writes:
> > Hello everyone. I have experienced the following problem in my machine and I
> > wonder if anybody else has.
> > 
> > When I have xloadimage running a pic on the background and I have 2-3
> > other things going such as two editing sessions and (I think it was) a 
> > telnet session, my 486/33 w 8megs RAM just froze...........
> > 
> > Am I pushing too hard here? I mean, for my configuration... Only 8 megs swap.
> > 
> > Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
> > Should I add more swap, more memory or should I run fewer things?

Ah, now I have a slightly different version of this...

Running 0.96pl3 with a WD8031 on IRQ3; I can reliably get a freeze just by
compiling the kernel. At that point I can type at the keyboard but can see
nothing - I can't even switch VCs. I can then unfreeze the system by sending 
a single packet (any sort of packet - maybe a ping) to the ethernet card, and
the characters which I typed miraculously appear... Hmmm....

Maybe there is an sti() missing somewhere?

I think I can also get this to happen on 0.99pl1 as well - but it didnt 
happen when I used a WD8003 card on a different interupt. I shall grab one from 
work this week end to see if it makes any difference.


Phil

ps Apologies to anyone with whom I still have outstanding mail.. I will catch
up on my replies soonest...
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From: sno@ais.org (Stephen Opal)
Subject: Re: /usr/include/linux directory and manual page directories???
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:48:19 GMT

>>   My question is, where can I find these header files... or are they 
>>necessary, or should I create a linux directory with all the neccessary files
>>but have them all empty, or should I remove those lines from all the necessary
>>header files????/
>
>READ THE F****** FAQ! then get the kernel sources, that were they lie.
>

Is there some way to get the includes *WITHOUT* getting an 800 K file
of kernal sources?  Is there an important reason why the #includes can't
be a separate package?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hyunk@seas.smu.edu (Hyun Cheul Kim)
Subject: [Q] location of gcc2.2.2d
Followup-To: hyunk@seas.smu.edu
Summary: where can I get gcc2.2.2d binaries/lib ?
Keywords: gcc2.2.2d
Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:14:25 GMT

Hello world
where can i ftp gcc2.2.2d bin/lib?

Thank you.
From: Bryant.Graham@f4.n292.z1.fidonet.org (Bryant Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ***** README: How to find answers to your linux questions. *****
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:10:53 -0800

Re: ***** README: How to find answers to your linux questions. *****
 
> From: janl@ifi.uio.no (Nicolai Langfeldt)
> Reply-To: janl@ifi.uio.no
> Much of the volume on comp.os.linux used by questions that have been
> answered tens, hundreds or even thousands of times.

Your oh so right, Nicolai.

> The faq is _large_ but very well organized, and face it: you have to
> read _some_ docs to keep your system running smoothly, and the faq is
> a minimum.

Yes, it's been very helpful to many people.

> The problem is that the people who know the answers grow tired of
> answering the same questions time after time and stop answering. This
> is not what anyone wants, so please RTFM before asking. The manuals
> might be hard to understand, but please make a effort.
> If people could start doing this life on comp.os.linux would become
> better and maybe we could get rid of all the split posts too :)
> Nicolai
>  * Origin: Gated by remote.fidonet.org (1:343/94)

Note the '* Origin' on my end. I'm receiving this via Fido net. Because
Linux 
is such a excellent piece of work many, many people who otherwise have
had no 
access or introduction to Unix and now are being drawn into this much
larger 
'World'! They don't know META-FAQ from Apple-Jacks (a good breakfast
food).
I would think a monthly note welcoming this 'type' of person to this
brave
new world, from one point of origin, noting such things as you pointed
out
in your note in a more welcoming manner would be very much appreciated.
Your
going to find more new people from a much much more diverse experience
entering these areas and wrist slapping will tire you out eventually.   
     

Bryant Graham

Disclaimer: Heck, I'm out on this limb by myself

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: chchen@stat (Ching-Hsiang Chen)
Subject: running Linux as 'root' :(
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:27:17 GMT

I've been running Linux as 'root' quite happily untill just now. I killed
my Image file. No big deal, just remake the kernel. Well, I tried to
act as an ordinary user but found it troublesome, especially I had to
switch to root and change file attributes for myself when I can not
run some programs due to the attributes of files. As a result, 90% of my
Linux files are now owned by 'root' and grouped by 'root'.

Has anyone out there got some attribute-changing script to make my Linux
files/directories back to the 'normal' status so that I can be just
a happy user rather than SA?

Thanks in advance.

Steve Chen
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From: tgc@world.std.com (Terry Carlin)
Subject: Re: Bad blocks (?) on hard disk
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:40:02 GMT

rob@dinner.asrc.albany.edu (Robert D. Seals) writes:
: Hello,
: I just got sls from tsx-11 today, and prepared things and dove
: in to install on my hard disks.
: 
: Things seems sensible except that bad blocks on the hard disks
: aren't mapped to a forwarding area. This makes installation nearly
: impossible, since my disks have many bad blocks. Is there
: an 'fsck' on the a1/a2 disks that can locate and deal with bad
: blocks so that I may proceed with installation? If not,
: what am I supposa do?

This should be in the FAQ.  This is the 2'nd time today I have
responded to this question.  And the answer is not in the FAQ.

One should:    mkfs -c /dev/whatever howbig   

The -c option tells mkfs to mark and hide any bad blocks.  If you do
not have an IDE drive this should be mandatory.   IDE drives mark bad
blocks automaticly and this is not required.

: Waiting anxiously,
: rob
: -- 
: ------
: Sing Little Birdy?
: rob@dinner.asrc.albany.edu
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From: gbothe@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Problem with ftpd & new SLS w/ 99pl4
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:31:13 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

I am having a problem with the ftp daemon.  I upgraded my system to the new
SLS, but my ftp daemon broke...  I cannot login at all, this is what I get:

220 netrats FTP server (Linux netrats 0.99.pl4-48 01/26/93 i386) ready.
Nme (netrats:gbothe): gbothe                                          
Password (netrats:gbothe):                                            
221 Server shutting down.                                              
Broken pipe

Sometimes I get a 'unsuccessful login' instead...  I've tried everything,
including the protection on the files...  I have the passwd and group files in
/home/ftp/etc, I have ls in /home/[Cftp/bin, I have an ftpd directory in the
spool directory.  Any help??  (I've also tried the ftpd that comes with SLS --
same problem).

Greg Bothe
gbothe@discover.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one)
Subject: wow, suggestion for library improvment/shared memory,X suggestion
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:58:57 GMT


I just noticed that the linux munmap call is completely general 
purpose. I've started using it on very large pieces of data when
I free them, so that the pages are really freed rather than sitting
around waiting to be swapped out. 

It seems like the libraries could be easily changed so that free would
automatically call munmap whenever large chunks of data are freed.
This would greatly improve performance when using large amounts of
data (I wish I had this when I was working on tinymush).

It also seems like using the mmap call and /proc is an ideal way
of doing shared memory since it doesn't require any special code
in the kernel. (maybe this already works?)

If this was done local X windows speed could be greatly improved, the
X windows server could map in all processes using it and transfer
stuff directly from the users memory to the screen. For example
dumping a large Ximage would involve only a copy to the VGA memory
rather than a copy into and out of the kernel.

It seems like linux is fast on its way to becoming the best OS ever
written :-)

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From: superd@swamp.alt.ns.ca (Andrew Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux on Amiga?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:40:32 GMT
Organization: swamp.alt.ns.ca public access Linux
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I've heard that Linux can be used with the Amiga FastFileSystem, and have also heard that Linux is being ported over to the Amiga.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
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From: gt2327c@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian Ricker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Help with ps -U from latest SLS
Date: 24 Jan 93 01:28:56 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I just got the Jan 18 SLS (which I have just upgraded to the 99.4 kernal). 
ps does not work, and ps -U does not seem to be a valid switch. Do I need
to recompile ps? If so, where do I get the source? I have seen that other peopleare having the same problem.

				Thanks for your help.
					
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: garyt@lgc.com (Gary Thompson)
Subject: Re: MWM??
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corp., Houston, Tx.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:43:03 GMT

christian.perrier@lill.frmug.fr.mugnet.org (Christian Perrier) writes:

>The other solution to have mwm on your Linux is to buy the mwm sources
>at OSF and adapt it to your Linux...Quite expensive, but maybe not
>impossible for big research centers or education sites.....

>Did someone try that?

We have the sources for Motif 1.1.1 and I had no troubles compiling
them on Linux.  No "adapting" necessary. :-)

Gary
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ramzi@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Ramzi Al-Majid)
Subject: Orchid Faherenheit VLB card and X windows
Keywords: linux info
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:36:40 GMT


does anyone know whether or not this local bus card will work with the S3
server ? this card is based on the S3 805 chipset. 

thanks in advance.

Ramzi

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mcfall@cs.hope.edu (Ryan Mcfall)
Subject: problems linking with XView3L3
Reply-To: mcfall@cs.hope.edu
Organization: Hope College
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 03:21:39 GMT

I'm trying to write some xviews programs with the Xview3 package found
at tsx-11.mit.edu.  Compiling seems to go fine, but when I reach the
link stage I receive the error
  /usr/lib/libxview.a(fm_set.o) _frame_set_position undefined referenced
  from text segment

Here's my command line:
  cc -g -o guidetest guidetest.o stubs.o -L/usr/lib -lxview -lolgx -lX11

Has anybody run into these problems??

Thanks,
Ryan
mcfall@cs.hope.edu



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From: hlae0999@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Holger Laebe)
Subject: f2c.h missing in SLS 1.0
Keywords: f2c SLS
Reply-To: hlae0999@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:59:14 GMT

Has anyone seen the f2c headerfile in SLS 1.0
it's not in f2c.taz on c2 or anywhere else !

where is it ??

(ANYWAY SLS is great !!!! good job, guys )

holger

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If it`s not there, and you can see it   -- it`s VIRTUAL
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If it`s not there, and you can`t see it -- it`s GONE

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller)
Subject: Re: Looking for the working Xconfig file for ET4000 + SONY 1304.
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:02:30 GMT

cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens) wrote:
>dkyoon@alnitak.usc.edu (Dae-Kyun Yoon) writes:
>: My friend bought a nonmae ET4000 board w/ 1M, recently.  He wants to
>: run X windows in 1024x768x256c mode, but we failed to set the clocks
>: properly.  640x480x256c ran fine just out of the box, but we could not
>: make it work in 800x600 1024x768 mode. 
>: 
>: Does anybody have a working Xconfig file for ET4000 board + Sony 1304 in
>: 1024x768 *non-interlaced* mode(Vertical 60Hz) ? 
>
>	You would be surprised how easy it can all be if you have the 
>ET4000 Data Book.  Try setting your clocks like with 60 and 65.  I have
>only tested this 65MHz.  Check your monitor's specs about maximum Bandwidth.
>
> "1024x768"  65    1024 1072 1328 1344    767  776  786  806
>
>	"767?!?"  "767!!!!"  Yes, it's seems weird, but that's the only
>way to get my Tseng card to talk to my Monitor.  It works, it really does.
>I spent 30 hours with the various spreadsheets and "how-to's", but they
>were all WRONG!  The Tseng manual help a bunch.  Enjoy!

I was able to reconstruct my linux partition after a show-down between
NT and my hard drive (NT won the first battle [erased my hard drive]
but I won the second [erased NT...] :)...  So I was able to save my
settings that produce a good, flicker-free (to my eyes...) 1024x768 screen.

After playing around the 'trial and error' method for a few days, I
sat down and did the work the way the docs say to.  Took about 20
minutes (I'm slow).  All it took was the clock values and the Sony
monitor manual.

Here's my values:
 "1024x768"  64    1024 1088 1152 1328    768  771  775  803
 "1024x768i" 44    1024 1064 1224 1264    768  777  785  817 Interlace
 "800x600"   36     800  816  928 1024    600  607  621  628
 "640x480"   25     640  656  752  800    480  491  493  525
             28     640  672  768  800    480  490  492  525

These all work for me on an ET4000 (ProDesigner II) and Sony 1304c.

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From: jdg00@ccc.amdahl.com (Josh Grosse)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: KA9Q - Command to Receive Binary Files?
Date: 21 Jan 93 03:00:14 GMT
Reply-To: jdg00@amail.amdahl.com (Josh Grosse)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

jmaclean@fox.nstn.ns.ca (James MacLean) writes:

>
>	I'm using KA9Q on Linux and it doesn't now the BInary command I'm
>using with KA9Q for DOS. What should I be using instead to switch from 
>ASCII ti BINARY?

Use the command "type i" to set FTP to binary mode, and "type a" to
set it to ascii mode.
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From: ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 2 files with the same name in single directory, 0.99pl3, extfs
Date: 23 Jan 93 13:37:33 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

I just had a very strange thing happening to me while trying to get lpr
to work.  In my spool directory, I suddenly had two files called ".seq"
It was possible to remove them with a single rm - command.

I'm running 0.99pl3 on a 486/50, and the directory was on the extended
filesystem I've mounted on /usr.

Huh?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gilles@dgbt.doc.ca (Gilles Gagnon)
Subject: Re: Serial I/O in 99pl3-4
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 18:39:48 GMT

In article <btenison.930123104426@tesla.ee.eng.auburn.edu> btenison@eng.auburn.edu (Bruce Tenison) writes:
>Is anyone haveing trouble with the new serial driver (3.8) in 99pl3-4??
>Everything worked fine up to and including 99pl2, but now, everything
>seems to work EXCEPT the serial lines.  I have ttys0 set to my mouse
>and ttys1 to the modem.  Kermit responds that it gets an I/O error
>and the mouse test util that comes with the Xfree responds that it 
>cannot open the mouse.  BTW, I have a Packard Bell 386x with on-board
>serial ports (in case this helps).
>
>Thanks!
>Bruce
>btenison@eng.auburn.edu
>
>

I compiled the 0.99pl4 kernel this morning ( from 0.98pl5 SLS ) with 
gcc2.2.2d and everything seems to work fine up until now. I compiled
it with the 'autoconfigure serial IRQ lines' option set to no. I had
kermit and Xfree work without problems up until now (typing this
through kermit). It is the first time I build a kernel and it went
without any difficulties. I just hope that I am not in for a surprise
later sometimes.

BTW I remember some posts mentionning problems with binaries when either
gcc went from 2.2.2d to 2.3.3 or when linux went from 0.98 to 0.99. Could
some kind soul refresh my memory.

Thanks to all

gilles

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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Safety Belt / SLS
Date: 21 Jan 1993 00:25:17 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:

>probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
>> Thats why unix is not for the faint hearted. There are plenty of warnings 
>> in the various README's and FAQ's about this sort of thing. For one, I
>> would always back up completely before mkfs'ing a new drive or repartitioning

>Forget the hacker-only attitude.  SLS is an attempt to make Linux easy for
>DOS users to install and use, which is an attitude I find preferable.

>> These are just little things people have got to think about before installing
>> something new. Granted the average DOS application doesn't go low level and
>> mess with the hard drive itself, but then again this isn't an average thing.
>> You are getting into the real world with unix, so you have to live with some
>> real world things like unix is semi-cryptic.

>DOS won't let you trash your Linux partitions with an ill-advised format.
>Why should Linux?

>> James (Who accidently mkfs'ed the wrong partition to once, but thats what
>> backups are for)

>I hate to tell you, but traditional unix mkfs tells you what partition it
>wants to scribble on and warns you to hit DEL (^C with default Linux stty
>settings, of course) within 10 seconds if that's not what you want --- so
>even real world unix is better than the current Linux mkfs.  (I grant that
>BSD might have dropped it from their mkfs.  My comment about the hacker-only
>attitude applies to that.)

>++Brandon

>--
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>Help stamp out OSF/Motif in our lifetime!

You still obviously didn't get my point here. MAKE BACKUPS FIRST. Come on,
so even if other mkfs's allow me 10 seconds that still isn't going to make
any difference if I don't realize it. Whats next, mirroring of the old 
partition first??

I try not to adopt this is for hackers only, but realize you are installing
something thats a little more powerful than DOS here. If people don't
want to make backups, and then get burned by it later thats their problem
not mine.

James
From: Chris.Bugosh@f340.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Bugosh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Bernoulli/SyQuest
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 22:55:00 -0800

Can I have some horror/success stories on setting up Linux on either of
these two boxes?  I'd also know what controller you're using...  I hear
that the controller that comes with the Bernoulli from Hard Drives
International doesn't work.  Is the adapter that comes with the SyQuest
compatible?  Thanks for any/all info.

Chris

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