HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: prec@ellis.uchicago.edu (bruce lyman precourt)
Subject: Re: THE LAD WHO WRECKED THE LSH
Reply-To: prec@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:52:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.204218.25934@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.133622.17933@midway.uchicago.edu> prec@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>...not as *I* recall. The "Dynamo Boy" I referred to was a one-page throwaway
>>>applicant who tried to get into the Legion by replacing Lightning Lad in
>>>position and power. However, he derived his "powers" from an electrical
>>>generator belt that shot harmless static charges towards specific targets
>>>that were rigged to blow up anyway. 
>>Dynamo Boy was the villain of Adv 330-331, in reality "Vorm of the
>>Pirate Planetoid" who was admitted to the Legion, canned all the
>>members, and then replaced them with the LSV. He was double-crossed
>>by them and exiled to the distant future.
>
>Actually, there were two of them, fitting both of the above descriptions.  The
>first one was in Adventure #305 (Storm Boy was #301).  My digest reprint
>calls him Dynamo _Kid_, but the LSH Index gives his name as Dynamo Boy; I
>have no idea whether the index got it wrong, or whether the name was changed
>in the reprint to avoid confusion.

Well you made me dig out a weathered copy of Adv 305 to see what it has.

Two times he's called by name, and it's Dynamo Kid, not Boy.
(Actually he refers to himself as THE Dynamo Kid, but let's leave
that alone.) The index, which does indeed call him Dynamo Boy, is wrong.

Aside from that, this is on the same page as a real Legion oddity
which I'm sure longtime fans will remember: just before the intro
of Dynamo Bo..er,Kid, we saw the intro of Antennae Boy, another
spurious applicant. He's demonstrating his power which allows
his grotesque ears to pick up any radio signal whether it was
broadcast in the past present or future. We see a panel with
some samples coming in:

"News Flash! Japan surrendered today, withdrawing from World War II!"

"Everybody's doin' the twist!" (this comic came out in 1962, remember)

"Vacation on Venus.. only $100,000"

"He's three-eyed Sam from the planet Wham!"

OK, here's the weird part; the next panel has two more incoming 
messages, one of which is quite ironic:

"Bulletin: Kennedy re-elected President of U.S."

Obviously, in mid-1962 the DC editors were so confident of a Kennedy
second term, they saw no harm in this "prediction". When this story
is reprinted (the first time was in Adventure 401, I think) they
simply crop out the "re-" of re-elected, and get a totally different meaning.
From: 00njhavert@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: "How to" comic writing book wanted
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:14:51 GMT


	Wasn't there a book out on how to write comics? I could've 
sworn it was written by Will Eisner, but don't quote me on that. Can
anyone tell me the author and title?

Nik
From: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Cerebus TPB (was Re: Marvel Writers slyly criticizing Company Policy
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:18:42 GMT
Reply-To: hildebra@math.wisc.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Distribution: na
Organization: Don's Merry Horde of Topologists

kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
> I too have started reading Cerebus(started this week too).  I've found
> A good way to start(or more to the point, my way to start) was to pick
> up the first tpb/phone book.  

	Heh heh heh, more converts. :) Warning though to anyone who's been
reading recent Cerebus issues and goes back to the beginning. The first tpb
(called simply "Cerebus") is very different, consisting of mainly single
issue stories, many of which are Conan parodies. By the second book, "High
Society" Sim gets closer to his current style.

> They're available at most stores and Diamond seeems to have them constantly
> available for order.

	At this point the first 4 books have been released to distributors.
The other two are the two volumes of Church and State, which are $30 each
(but they also have about 100 more pages than the first two). Supposedly
sometime next month (checking watch to make sure it's still technically
August) Jaka's Story will be released. That one's a doozy and worth every
penny. (I ordered the $50 signed and limited edition two years ago and have
absolutely no regrets. The regular edition is $25.)  Then Melmoth will be
released in December. Then supposedly in February of 1993, the first book of
Mothers and Daughters is going to be released. That caught me by surprise
since I figured Sim would wait keep the size about the same and so do M&D in
two parts. Apparently he decided that to keep people reading it he had to
release volumes more often. Or maybe he found that the slimmer volumes hold
together better. (Be nice...)

	If you're really impatient or if you can't get the books from your
local store, you can order up through Melmoth directly from
Aardvark-Vanneheim. Supposedly M&D book 1 is going to be released to
distributors immediatedly. Boy has Dave Sim changed his tune.

-Jeff, who's going to resist the temptation to start rereading all of
Cerebus. I've got classes in two days.

-- 
Jeff Hildebrand                                  jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu
"Fly Heisenberg Airlines! We may not know where we are, but we're making
real good time." - _Synners_ by Pat Cadigan
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: LNH - Posting of the last chapter (so far...)
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:21:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.Bu2LvB.7sq
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep4.011703.4113@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes...
	An epitath for Rebel Yell, for as he was about to grab Action Lord,
the portable hole opened over him, and the whole crew of people came tumbling
down on top of him, crushing every bone in his body. Seeing the unsurprising
return of the mob of super-beings, Action Lord now decides that this may be
way out of his league. His last thought leaving the devestated building is
thinking about taking over a lesser newsgroup, like rec.arts.magna.  
	Cliche Dude comes out of the pile of super-beings, and heads for
Marvel_Zombie Lad(tm), and frees him from his prison.  Marvel_Zombie Lad,
having enough of this whole affair, finds a couple of M-60's hidden in a
panel, to be used only in emergencies.  He gives one to Cliche Dude, and
they both start firing into the crowd. Many death cries are heard as the
murderous pair continue to fire, uncaring if they hit friend or foe.
	Several minutes pass, and finally, they run out of ammunition. 
Only three figures are standing within the massacre: HairDo of the
W.I.L.D.C.U.B.S., Magna Man, and Table, who still manages to hold both
the Ring of Retconn and the Cosmic PlotDevice.  
	"I've had enough of this crap", says Table.  He aims both 
artifacts to the ground and the ground underneath them starts to
crumble.  "I think it is time for the end of the world."  Instead
of an evil laugh as with many evil doers do, he just snickers.


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rest of the world doesn't like Rush. REM fans consider the rest of the world
beneath their social level to notice. Kate Bush fans love the rest of the
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one another."                    --Richard Darwin
                                   Richard Darwin #33, "Gradenza"
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From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Grendel and Spawn
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:12:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Sep1.191212.12974
Organization: University of Virginia

panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca  writes:
> Am I the only person who thinks that Spawn looks just like Grendel in a 
> cape?
> 
> Namaste,
> Elizabeth
Not at all. A friend of mine made the exact same observation
some time ago and I agree wholeheartedly. Of course, Grendel is
actually worth reading though.
--
                               - Curt Tsui -
      			     curt@Virginia.EDU
   "Happiness might very well be a glandular condition." - David Cronenberg
From: romkey@asylum.UUCP (John Romkey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Cerebus TPB (was Re: Marvel Writers slyly criticizing Company Policy
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:40:14 GMT
Distribution: na

jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand) writes:
>	If you're really impatient or if you can't get the books from your
>local store, you can order up through Melmoth directly from
>Aardvark-Vanneheim. Supposedly M&D book 1 is going to be released to
>distributors immediatedly. Boy has Dave Sim changed his tune.

I think he's probably being quite consistent, actually. His original attempt to
go through distrbutors was conditional on them coming up with enough advance
orders to justify it economically. They didn't. After the big bang with
Diamond, he sold them directly, then (much) later he worked things out with
distributors - presumably they're willing to come up with enough advance
orders to justify going through them.
-- 
	- john romkey	  ELF Communications	 romkey@ELF.com
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Late Comics.
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:15:09 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

The Godzilla color special by Art Adams is pretty late as well.

Jed
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From: lin@ug.cs.dal.ca (David Lin)
Subject: Re: Late Comics.
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:21:13 GMT

In article <y4ZcqB1w165w@wuntvor.norman.ok.us> stile@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (Stile) writes:
>Either comics are coming to my favorite store VERY late, they are being
>generally released VERY late, or the owners of my favoritw store are covering

Ummm...does anyone out there know if _Judge Dredd_The Megazine_ number 4
ever came out? I've been patiently waiting but...

I really, really, really want to find out how the _America_ storyline ends.

Thanks...
dave

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From: hachiman@milton.u.washington.edu (Matt Downer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: BloodBloodBlood #2 (SPOILERS)
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:51:24 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug25.220121.6527@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@fester.UVic.CA (Jim  Cowling) writes:
>We made you laugh.
>We made you cry.
>You made us rich.
>
>160 different covers wasn't enough, you said.
>No, stop us! we cried.
>
>It's here.
>
>BLOODBLOODBLOOD #2
>From Simulacrum Press
>
>THRILL to the continuing expoloits of those POWER-PACKED HEROES of TOMORROW!  GASP AGOG at the 480 different variants!  CRINGE in PAIN
>at the HIGH STEEL-JACKETED LEAD content!
>
>Fresh off his latest film, FAN-FAVOURITE MEGA-ARTIST Rub Legalese and TWO DOZEN of his CLOSEST PERSONAL FRIENDS stayed up ALL NIGHT to
>bring you THE MOST MOMENTOUS OCASION in COMIC ART HISTORY!
>
>Will SHOELACE learn about his HORRIFYING SECRET? 

Yes, yes, I CAN'T WAIT!!!!  What could his *HORRIBLE SECRET BE?!?!*

>Who is his FATHER?  His MOTHER?  Is his FIRST COUSIN a BLASPHEMOUS HORROR from 
>BEYOND TIME and SPACE?  He'll have to KILL every THUG in the UNIVERSE to 
>DISCOVER THE SECRET!  Last issue's BOIDYCOUNT wasn't big enough. 
				    ^^^^^^^^^^
Could it be...?  Could *that* be his HORRIBLE secret???  Could it be that he
was born in...



BROOKLYN!!!!


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|  				|
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Johnny Nemo?
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:36:13 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Aug30.104304.4242@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, dwaldhof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Darien Waldhoff) writes:
> 
>  If you're into that book, and know of any other comic books, graphic
> novels, or anything else besides:
> 
>     The Johnny Nemo Magazine 1-3
>     Strange Days 1-3
>     Johnny Nemo Graphic Novel

Well, he's currently appearing in Dark Horse's DEADLINE USA, which if things
go on like they have will be cancelled soon.  As it is, I'm the only person
in my store buying that book.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: cable
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:05:40 GMT

In article <BtLGLs.F7o@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axly) writes:
>>	Seriously, X-Force is boring because it presents a simplistic world 
>>view.  On one side are the Good Guys: victimized yet strong, indomitable yet 
>>merciful, warlike yet wanting peace.  
>
>Not to disagree with you very much, but what's the difference between X-Force
>and all the rest of the X titles? They all seem to read just like your
>description above.

X-Factor has a good writer.  I know some people don't like PAD's work, but 
 he always has the best one-liners, and the plots are usually solid also.

X-Men have a history.  The current writing isn't much better than X-Force,
 but many people will always be interested in what was once Marvel's best
 book.  Personally, I still buy it for this reason, but I'll probably drop
 it soon if it degenerates any further.

Excalibur has Nightcrawler.  'Nuff said.

X-Force, though, doesn't have a good writer, or a long history, or 
Nightcrawler.  The writing is worse than most issues of X-men.  I haven't
bought it for several months now, but I've looked at it in the store.  It's
still just endless combat scenes, splash pages, and Rob "Pinhead" Liefeld
style art (that is, without any sense of bodily proportion, and ugly streaks
on everyone's faces).
-- 
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From: carlinra@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Robert Carlin)
Subject: Shortest runs (Was: Re: JSA CANCELLED????)
Summary: Dynamic Classics
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:46:34 GMT


In article <bkr24.714748690@bkr24aws> bkr24@cas.org (Keith Rose) writes:
>>tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway) writes:
>> So an argument can be made that Green Team was
>>(deservedly) the shortest run of a regular DC book.
>
>Well, I have have a copy of "Sherlock Holmes" put out by DC in the mid-70s.
>If I remember correctly its story was "to be continued."  However, only one
>issue was printed.  I still have it at home if anybody wants specifics about
>it.

Returning to the one-issue theme Keith started, DC published one issue of 
Dynamic Classics, right around the time DC Comics Presents started.  I think
it came out at the same time as DCCP #2, the second part of the Flash-Superman
race.  

Dynamic Classics had a self-contained Batman story (a reprint, but I can't 
remember the title offhand) as well as the first part of the "new
Manhunter" storyline which was drawn by Walt Simonson.  Of course, this was
also followed by a "to be continued..." blurb, but issue 2 never showed.

Rob

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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Late Comics.
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:06:08 GMT

stile@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (Stile) writes:
>expect an Innovation comic to be a MINIMUM of six months late, but whatever
>happened to EPIC COMICS #4?  I was getting these mainly for the Wild Cards
>stories.  Number four either never came out, or sold out pretty damned fast
>here in Oklahoma.  And back to Innovation...I seriously wonder if half the

Never showed up here, either - I've been watching for it.
-- 
Get thee down. Be thou funky.
From: pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Face of Doom
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:39:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu0E54.416
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <Bu097o.7zA@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.001424.20588@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
>>The face of Doom has been speculated on for many years. One of them is
>>that Doom isn't really hideous scarred, but is just increadiably vain.
>>The explosion that maimed him actually only put a small scar on him, but
>>because he was so vain about his looks he decided he was scarred
>>forever.
>
>When Doom first put on his mask, it was heated... I don't have the issue 
>anymore, but a reprint of his origin showed the newly-forged mask placed on
>his face... so even if the scar was originally small, his entire face is 
>now destroyed.

FF #278 shows the mask burning into Doom's face as the remembrancer gives
Kristoff the mind of Doom--however various inconsistencies in Marvel's
portrayal of Doom over the years still leave doubt over whether his
face is truly destroyed at all. For example, if most of Doom's appearances
have been robots how are issues where people see his face to be 
explained? Surely he would not construct a robot with a damaged face, and
even if he did, I doubt he could make it so lifelike it would fool 
someone. Most of his destroyed Doombots simply have eyeballs behind the
mask.
--

"Is it madness, my dear Enchantress, which drives a man of my genius to strive
 for an impossible prize..or is it the striving for that which is ever just
 out of reach which prevents madness from overtaking me?"  
					Dr. Doom, Secret Wars
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Subject: Re: Christian Superheroes
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:01:13 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <m0mOzPA-0000QJC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> by rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com:

> Christian superheroes who actual powers are based on their religious beliefs
> in any other superhero books (even those outside of Marvel)?.

    One of the "alternative" Batman books took this view of Batman,
    where he was in fact a priest, if I remember rightly. He's not a
    "powered" superhero, of course.

    The recently introduced character Azrael has strong Church
    associations, coming from an Order that was supposed to be an
    offshoot of the Templars.

    There are also quite a few characters who get their powers from
    Hell, like the Demon Etrigan, and a few who get their inspiration
    from christianity, like the Atilla character who recently featured
    in the Hawkman comic.

>  -Rich
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From: driskill%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hank Driskill, GSH3D)
Subject: Re: Warlock back from the dead
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:47:00 MDT
Organization: Grad Student From Hell (in 3D)
Distribution: na

In article <visser.715286964@convex.convex.com>, visser@convex.com (Lance
   Visser) writes...
> ...Starlin ... has pretty well sold out whatever credibility he had by
>bringing Thanos and Warlock back from the dead (which as I remember he said
>at one point he would never do). 

As I recall from last year's fan mags, Starlin didn't really WANT to bring the
characters back.  When he left Marvel, he and Shooter agreed all the characters
would stay dead.  Well, DeFalco didn't... Starlin heard that Marvel was going
to bring the characters back, knew he couldn't stop it, and decided if they
were coming back HE was going to bring 'em back... he cared too much for them
to let some dweeb do it.

I for one was glad he did it... I also was a big fan of Warlock, and hoped for
his return.

Hank.
From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Re: Valiant sucks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 07:36:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.055105.16016@news.iastate.edu> glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha) writes:
>dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axly) writes:
>>v070km6q@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (John B Schutkeker) writes:
>>
>>>I am pretty disgusted by the multiple issues gimmick, and I vehemently avoid
>>>getting caught in that trap. 
>>
>>Yeah, I hear you. The five issue #1 of Team Titans is the last straw for me.
>>I've quit reading all DC titles, because I think this is the lowest, 
>	cheesiest 
>>marketing strategy yet. 
>
>So, let's see...last year, DC released a zillion different versions of Robin
>II, which were only different because of cover, and carried that out for
>a whole mini-series, but that was *not* as low or cheesy as releasing five
>different versions of one comic, with a different bonus *story* in each one?
>
>Hmmmm....

Yup.  Y'see, you didn't *have* to buy all the multiple covers of Robin II
to get the whole story.  One issue would do you.  But if you wanted to know 
the origins of all the Team Titans (I don't know why you would care, I 
certainly don't) you'd have to get each and every bloody version of issue
#1.  You're confusing a sales gimmick with a bonus story; not everybody
is going to *want* diddley-ump issues of TT 1.  The whole point of printing
them that way was to get the fanboys to buy one of each, not just because
they have different covers, but because of the different backup story.
And hey, if they got some of the regulars to buy the extra issues so they
could have the whole story, then that's even better!

If they had published it as the first few issues, as someone else suggested,
then the covers would be different, the main story would be different, and
there would actually be a POINT besides making money.  But hey, that's
big business for ya....yippee.

The Walrus


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