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From: dcm@csn.org (David C. Menges)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Advice from an ex-palmtop user
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:06:56 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

I bought an HP 95LX when they first came out for full price, 
happy to buy American and get HP quality.  Being a Mac/Unix user, 
I paid for a Unix program to be written for phone list downloads.  
I convinced 6 others to buy one.

Unfortunately, I've had far too many data losses of the type often
described here.  My son once spilled 1/4 glass of water on it while
it was closed.  It dried out fine and I've used it for 6 months.
When another problem developed (speaker came loose), I sent it to
HP asking that it be reattached.  They noticed water damage and
said it'd be $363; when I called back, they agreed to just fix the 
speaker.  When I got it back, the whole unit was dead, and they 
say it was just a coincidence.  

Also, the third party market is not developing nearly as quickly
as I expected.

I'm not here to criticize HP; they have a legitimate case.  I am 
here to advise people that are thinking of spending this much money 
on an organizer how to protect themselves.  If I were to do this 
again (I'm not), I would:

  1. Before buying, decide if you can be without the organizer
     for a week or more.  I've realized that these are machines
     without backups; if I'm organized on a Mac and it dies, I
     can always find another Mac during repairs.
  2. Buy from Service Merchandise and pay $50 for their extended
     warrantee that covers accidental damage.
  3. Buy a RAM card to daily backup files.  Xmodem is difficult 
     enough that I don't do it.

At $400, I still believe the HP is the best organizer available
today.  I hope to see more bullet-proof models in the future - 
these things are out in daily life.  Also, if a manufacturer 
were to offer the same damage protection Service Merchandize does,
I would buy from them.

For sale:
  o HP 95LX; was $580, now best offer.
  o Connectivity kit; was $80?, now $50.
  o Unix program to download phone files - was $200, now $0.
  o GVC 2400bps pocket modem; was $89, now $70.
From: mik@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Mik Butler)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:37:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Jagmenu and 1MB LX
Organization: HP Software Engineering Systems UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

I sent a msg to Everett asking if there was an easy way of
telling which applications suffer from the problem of allocating
themselves too small a stack.  I received the following reply,
which Everett has (kindly) given me permission to post here.

Mik Butler
**********


Mik,
About the only way I can think of to tell if the program has too little stack
is to load it into debug and examine the header (an .EXM header looks just like
an .EXE header, pretty much).  The word at offset 0x0E-0x0F in the file is the
offset of the stack segment in the load module (in paragraph form, ie the
"segment" offset).  The word at offset 0x10-0x11 is the value to be placed in
the SP register when the module is given control (ie, the stack pointer).  If
the stack size is around 16 bytes, it won't work too well.  It should be at
least in the 250-280 byte ballpark.

Everett
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

jew@sunquest.sunquest.com (Ward...  James Ward) writes...
>I just purchased a Megahertz modem and found that it doesn't work with
>my HP95LX.  When I plug the modem into the serial port, the display
>goes blank.  The modem works fine, but the display becomes unreadable.
>I tested the modem on a Toshiba T-1000 and it works fine there too.
>HP95LX technical support assured me that any non line-powered modem
>would work.  I guess they were wrong.  Megahertz said they had no
>solution for the HP95LX at this time.

It sure sounds to me like your Megahertz modem is trying to power itself by
drawing power from the serial port.  I can't imagine why else the display on
the HP 95LX would go dim when you plug it in.  There's only four pins there,
transmit-data, receive-data, and two grounds.  If the modem isn't sucking
power when you plug it in, there is NO reason for the HP 95LX's display to
go dim.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
From: howard@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Howard Price)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 09:09:36 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Philosophical discussion of .ABK
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSG-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

Sounds to me like there is a need for a common interchange format for these
kinds of applications.  It takes a lot of effort to write specific
converters for each type of calendar or phonebook application.  It seems to
be more productive to write converters that go to and from a well-known
format (eg DIF, CSV, CRD, etc).  Most of the popular host or PC applications
will support import and export to one of those formats and having a
converter to/from them to .PBK and .ABK would allow LX users to transfer
data between many different applications.

I will admit that I have a vested interest in this at-the-moment, because
I'm trying to get my .PBK data into MS-Win CardFile (without hours of
finger bending typing).  So if anybody wants to take up the challenge, they
have one customer already!

Howie


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: bdahlen@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Robert L. Dahlen - U. of Denver USA=)
Subject: Best price for HP 95lx 1MB?
Originator: bdahlen@zephyr.cair.du.edu
Organization: University of Denver
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:06:56 GMT

Who has the best price for a 1MB 95lx?  How much?  Phone?  etc...


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From: fin@unet.umn.edu (Craig A. Finseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Freyja V1.3 bug
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:34:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr6.143431.10865
Organization: University of Minnesota, Networking Services.


Over the weekend, I came across a bug in the system-manager version of
Freyja V1.3 (this bug is *not* in the regular MS/DOS versions, even
when tailored for the 95LX).

The bug is that, when reading in a file that is over 8K bytes long, it
*sometimes* silently truncates the file on input.  If you were to save
the file, the truncated text would be lost.

I am, of course, tracking down and fixing this bug.  Expect a V1.4 in
the next few days.

What is causing me to tear my hair out is that nowhere in this file
(buf.c) is there *any* code that varies between the system-manager and
regular versions...   AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!

Craig A. Finseth			fin@unet.umn.edu
1343 Lafond				Craig.Finseth@nic.mr.net
St Paul MN 55104-2437			+1 612 644 4027
USA
From: usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: 95LX COMM program
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:36:42 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <1992Apr16.091554.27096@hemlock.cray.com> mpj@hemlock.cray.com (M. P. Johnson) writes:
.........
>You're right of course, Vic, but the misleading thing is that when you
>enter COMM and type MENU Transfer Kermit Send you get a line saying
>"File(s) to send with Kermit:"
>- but I still haven't worked out why they put that "(s)" in there,
>for it seems impossible to select or highlight more than one at a time...

  I was talking about using a "real" Kermit program on the 95LX, such as
Columbia Kermit. That version does do wildcard send and receive.


>PS Does anyone know if Compuserve is available from Europe ? (without
>having to dial direct to the States :-( )

CIS does have European phone numbers. Don't know what they are, and the cost
is higher than US connection, but not as high as calling the States yourself.

Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:16:25 GMT
Subject: Re: What means FLASH rom card ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

cohen@cmu.unige.ch writes...
>The term FLASH rom card occurs quiet often. What does FLASH exactly
>stand for ?

I don't know whether FLASH is an acronym for anything, but basically the FLASH
technology is an electrically erasable programmable ROM.  The trick is that
you don't erase the WHOLE thing at once (on the other hand you DO erase LARGE
parts of it at once, on the order of 128K bytes per erase chunk).  It requires
something on the order of 12 volts to erase or program it (I'm not sure which)
which makes it more difficult to use from the hardware point of view (than
something that runs purely off of 5v).  Because it erases in LARGE chunks, it
can't be used for a standard DOS disk, unless of course, you treat it just as
a ROM and don't make use of its erasable characteristics.  If you treat it
just as a ROM (after programming it), then you CAN program it (all in one
swell foop) with a standard DOS disk image, and then (as a read-only device)
it will work just fine in any old PCMCIA 1.0 or above system (unless of course
it's a 5v card and the machine you're running in is a 3v system maybe).

INTEL has created their own file system (the flash file system) which is a
(WARNING!!! PERSONAL OPINION AHEAD!!!  WARNING!!! DUCK YOUR HEAD!!!!) god-awful
ugly piece of kludge if I've ever seen one, destined for the dust heap of
technological oblivion as soon as the technology advances a little further.  On
the other hand, I've been wrong before. :-)

Does that help?  If not, take two aspirin and don't call me.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
From: stefanos@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Stefanos Manganaris)
Subject: Printing Lotus PIC files?
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:58:19 GMT


Hello,

How can I print the .PIC files generated on the HP95 by Lotus 123, to
a postscript printer?  Is there s/w to convert PIC to PS?  I only have
access to a SUN workstation connected to a printer---no PC available
conveniently.

Thanks for your help,

Stefanos Manganaris,
Vanderbilt University, TN.

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From: jp07@gte.com (James Paschetto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Need help using Wizard as remote terminal
Keywords: Sharp, Wizard, OZ-8200
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:18:55 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated, Waltham MA

Can anyone share experiences using the Wizard as a remote terminal?
I just want to wire it to a Mac serial port and have the Mac read inputs
from the Wizard keyboard & output to the Wizard LCD.

The Wizard manual doesn't mention this directly.  Do I need the "Macintosh
Link" software, or just the cable?  Once the two units are connected, do
I just put the Wiz in terminal mode?

Thanks for any help,
--Jim
  jp07@gte.com
From: jjd@BBN.COM (James J Dempsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Macintosh interface for HP95LX
Date: 6 Apr 1992 19:23:13 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jjd@BBN.COM (James J Dempsey)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
Keywords: macintosh

[ This may be a FAQ ]

I played with my brother's 1MB HP95LX this weekend and thought it was
a blast.  I am a little timid to buy one, however, since I don't own a
DOS machine to connect it to.  I do have a Macintosh.

I have read of people building hacks to connect from Suns and the like
to their 95s, but I'm wondering if there is any commercial or PD
software exists which runs on the Macintosh specifically to manage the
HP95LX.  Yes, I know you can run kermit to download text files, but
I'm thinking of features like:

    * ability to edit (on the mac) phone list, appointments, etc
    * nice interface for downloading the above
    * read dos disks and download DOS executables
    * perhaps provide common DOS unpacking features like ZIP

Does anything like this exist?

Thanks,

		--Jim Dempsey--
		jjd@bbn.com
From: usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: PIMs and HP95LX
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:16:24 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <1992Apr13.055847.22014@csun.edu> vcmgt0j7@VAX.CSUN.EDU writes:
>Wonder if HP95LX users have tried some of the PIMs (Personal Information
>Management) on HP95LX?  Would very much like to hear your experience,
>reactions and any insights you have to share.
>
>Some of the packages that come to my mind include Lotus Agenda, InfoSelect,
>Memory Mate, GrandView.......

Many of us, including me are using Infoselect. It does not take much disk
space, can be configured to display only one window at a time in the
upper left hand corner of the screen, and the default window can be set to
match the 40 x 16 character 95LX screen. The only problem is that the GET
function runs slowly on battery power since the 95LX goes  into Light Sleep
mode. Also, the menus are not visble without scrolling, but this is not
a problem for experienced users. Infoselect is one of the most useful
applications on my 95LX.

I have heard that other people use Memory Mate. As I understand it Agenda
is more of a problem due to large disk space requirements, but I think some
people are using it. Don't know about Grandview.

Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: john blue <jblue@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: freyja 1.4 problems
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 15:10:54 GMT

Hi,
I am using the .EXM of Freyja 1.4. When I edit any small file (<777
bytes so far) the cursor does not behave correctly. For example:
I start up freyja with Alt-Memo (nothing else is running)
next i do a Menu Open and select autoexec.bat
then i type ^e (goto ebd of line)
The cursor stays at column one but when i type a character the
character is put at the end of the line and the cursor advances to
column two, etc. it is like the cursor is out of sync.
next I do a ^x^b (show buffers) and then do a ^e the cursor behaves
correctly and everything is ok. 

I reloaded Freyja 1.3 and it did not do this with the same freyja.ini
file.


My freyja.ini is

scr m
scs j
key j
spe j
swa 40
met m
rig 40
tab 4
wra y
# fil n
# sav n


My Autoexec.bat is

echo off
prompt $p$g
path c:\;c:\util;c:\turbo
serctl /o
echo Press any key for SysMgr
echo Press Ctrl-C to enter DOS
pause
$sysmgr

and my config.sys is

shell=c:\command.com /p

John Blue
jblue@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
From: admiral@m-5.Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Limprecht @Sun Micro Mt View. )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: HP95 Upgrade info?
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:27:58 GMT
Reply-To: admiral@m-5.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: m-5

Can someone post or e-mail me the facts on upgrading to the
1 meg version? I need to know:

- Price. (I think it's $180, but not sure)

- Time needed for upgrade.

- Where and how to send the unit.


Thanks in advance,

Mick

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From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:05:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Two Copies of Memo Editor on the HP95
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

fin@unet.umn.edu (Craig A. Finseth) writes...
>Umm, let me make suree that I understand you here.  My APNAME.LST on
>C: is supposed to *only* point to files on C: and the same for A:?
>This is news to me (not saying it isn't true mind you), and I have
>been studying this stuff a lot lately.

What I'm saying is this:  the APNAME.LST file in the _DAT directory on drive
C: should ONLY contain entries that begin with 'C:'.  The APNAME.LST file in
the root directory of drive A: should ONLY contain entries that begin with
'A:'.  You may have some success mixing and matching, but you're playing with
a loaded gun if you do (and the safety's off and it's got a hair-trigger).

STANDARD DISCLAIMER:  On the other hand, I may be all wet, but that's MY
    understanding of the situation.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
From: edp@MATH.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP-95 password /automatic
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:44:48 GMT
Reply-To: edp@MATH.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <65300119@hpcvra.cv.hp.com>, everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com
(Everett Kaser) writes:

>This is the first report I've seen of this kind of behaviour, and no idea
>what might be happening.  Is the AC adapter plugged in sometimes and not
>other times?

No, it has only happened with the AC adapter not in.  I use the adapter
at the office during the day; it is never connected in the morning at
home (yet).

>Was the machine always turned off the night before by pressing
>the ON key, or did it sometimes time out and shut off by itself?

Yes, it was always turned off with the On key.

> If the
>AC adapter was plugged in sometimes, did you turn the machine off, or did you
>leave it on (it won't time out with the AC adapter plugged in)?

Moot question . . . BTW, I suspected the time-out operated differently
with and without adapter; the manual does not say.

>Did you have
>an alarm set to go off before 8:00am the next morning sometimes and not other
>times?

I don't think any alarm was scheduled to go off between the time the 95
was turned off and the time it was turned on the next morning.  I was
trying to find something along those lines too, but no luck yet.

This does not happen every morning (it missed a couple this weekend) but
did happen a third time this morning.  I waited to see if it would time
out; it didn't.  Then I hit Enter a bunch of times; it eventually beeped
(with the "wrong password" tone) and went off.

Something else strange just happened.  I had an appointment set for
11:30 with alarm enabled and a leadtime of 05.  The 95, which was
sitting in the owner-picture screen (a custom .PCX I have installed),
beeped at 11:00!  My default leadtime is 30 minutes, but I didn't think
that would produce an alarm if I had explicitly changed the leadtime. 
Further, there was no alarm at 11:25.  I tried a couple of test alarms;
they honored the leadtimes I entered, overriding the default.  I'm
waiting to see what happens to my other alarms . . .


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
From: scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (P Scannell)
Subject: Re: Psion Organizer II XPs for sale
Reply-To: P.Scannell@bull.com
Organization: Bull HN, Worldwide Information Systems, Billerica, Mass., USA
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:54:40
	<1992Apr3.143723.2603@linus.mitre.org>

 In article <70157@bcsaic.UUCP> smithh@atc.boeing.com (Lonnie Smith) writes:
 >
 >I'm trying to get a handle on the architecture(s) of the systems frequently 
 >described in this news group.  So, a "Psion Organizer II" is not a meaningful
 >tag for me at the moment.  Is there a FAQ or other document which describes
 >the palmtop computers y'all talk about?

The July, 1991 issue of PC Magazine reviews most of the machines I've seen
mentioned in comp.sys.palmtops lately.
--
 == Pat Scannell                      Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
 == (508) 294-2190                    300 Concord Road   MA30-826A     ==
 == P.Scannell@bull.com               Billerica, MA 01821              ==
From: edp@MATH.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: 95LX COMM program
Keywords: default drive
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:56:43 GMT
Reply-To: edp@MATH.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr14.112444.27317@edsi.plexus.COM>,
chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:

>The one last thing I miss is sending multiple files from the 95LX to a
>PC.  I can send multiple files from PC->95LX, but not the other way
>around.  The file selector doesn't have any (obvious) way of tagging
>files and then sending them.  Kermit is a batched protocol, so why do we
>have to suffer in sending one file at a time from the 95LX?

You can put the 95 into Kermit server mode and then issue a GET command
on the PC with wildcards.  However, "GET *.*" will not work -- you get
some message about being unable to create a file.  But you can do "GET
*.TXT", "GET A*.*", et cetera.

Similarly, using scripts might be an acceptable way to deal with
multiple-file transfers -- Kermit has a TAKE command that will read
commands from a file.  You can prepare that file using an editor or
other program to make it simpler to construct the commands and path
specifications.


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: What means FLASH rom card ?
From: cohen@cmu.unige.ch
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:01:24 +0200
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

The term FLASH rom card occurs quiet often. What does FLASH exactly
stand for ?

Emmanuel Cohen-Laroque
University of Geneva
Switzerland
COHEN@CMU.UNIGE.CH
From: harringt@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Big Al)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:17:55 GMT
Subject: Re: HP-95 password /automatic
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

In comp.sys.palmtops, everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser) writes:

    Thanks for the answers.  Again, this doesn't sound like a common problem (I
    haven't heard of it before), so it's likely to be something peculiar about
    your setup (or no one else is using the password feature :-).  Do you have
    a CONFIG.SYS?  An AUTOEXEC.BAT?  APNAME.LST?  What's in them?  Do you use
    any file compressors such as DIET or STACKER?


I too had this happen.  I have since changed to manual password
because I got tired ot constantly entering my password.  It hasn't
happened since.

My situation was very similar to those above.  I fixed mine by
rebooting.

On a slightly different note - I have noticed that if I reboot into
DOS, do a few things then start $sysmgr sometimes the builtin
applications don't work (any of the blue keys).  Rebooting and going
directly into sysmgr fixes that.

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  Hewlett-Packard
  Networked Computer Manufacturing Operation
  (916) 785-5150
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