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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: CygnusEd and control character
From: jomar@otago.ac.nz
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:18:48 +1300
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <bmaple.0gvh@burner.com>, bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple) writes:
> Has anyone any idea why in CygnusEd when you try to enter a control code,
> it does the control code, immediately followed by a linefeed?

That ain't no bug, it's a feature.  (Have you heard that before? :-))

Remember that CEd is just as happy with binary (eg, executable) files as
text files.  However, I have had problems with text files containing
extremely long lines (~2000 chars).  Herein lies the bug/feature: CEd
handles large files, but not large (long) lines.  Now, where do you break
a line in a binary file?  There's no guarantee of a linefeed char in the
file, let alone anytime soon.  CEd's solution is to break lines frequently
in a binary file, in fact every few characters.  In effect, _almost_
_all_control_codes_act_as_line_feeds_as_well. (Almost because tab and
linefeed are handled specially (ie, aren't displayed).)

Thus, when you try to enter a control code, what really happens is that the
(single) control code is entered, and the code's representation (inverse A,
etc) and a line break are displayed.

If you're a shell user, try saving a short file containing control chars and
typing at the shell
  TYPE file HEX

Hope this helps,
John Marshall.  (jomar@otago.ac.nz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: bjst@sth.frontec.se (Bjorn Stenberg)
Subject: Re: CygnusEd and control character
Organization: IDK/Frontec - System Design Group
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:57:12 GMT

bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple) writes:
> This doesn't appear to solve anything on my machine.  It still does the
> immediate linefeed after printing the control character.  You can't erase
> it either. :(
> 
> I've been told this is a 'feature'...

CEd is full of these kinds of 'features'! Here are my favourites:

o) There can be text beyond the 1024th column, but your cursor isn't allowed
   to go there...
o) Replace a string with nothing and you can't undo the replace.
o) Go to column 761, push cursor-right and you get to column 1024!
o) Change-Case-Word function stores every converted character as a separate
   undo step.
o) Word-Wrap creates two undo steps for each wrap.
o) Load a large text, grab the slider and pull it quickly to the bottom and
   back up again. Often the display stays at the bottom.
o) Go to the end of a long line and move the cursor. It moves horribly
   slow even on an A3000.
o) Load a file consisting of only one (very) long line and the display will
   say you've got several lines of text.

Ain't it nice to have such a feature-filled editor? ;-)

		-- Bjorn

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From: ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Looking for a word processing software
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:49:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <C0Gu0H.7LI@news.cs.andrews.edu> adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap) writes:
>In article <1993Jan06.205503.2004@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> shorio@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Shigenori Horio) writes:
>>Hi, I am looking for the word processing software to write my masters thesis
>>on my Amiga 3000.  Since my paper is going to have many math equations, I need
...
>>I think my options are:
>>
>>1. PageStream
...
>>2. Amiga Tex
>>	I have never used Tex program. Writing more than 100 pages document in
>>Tex is going to be hell.
>
>Amiga Tex is my suggestion for you.  It wont be that bad writing 100 page
>document in Tex.  The hardest part is setting up the page to make it look
>the way you want it to look, but you only do that in the beginning of the
>document and not very many times within the document.  
...
I'll toss in another vote for AmigaTeX.  What you want to do is
exactly what TeX is made for.  It actually won't be dificult to "set
it up" like you want it to look because you won't have to.  I am
certain that somewhere in the univerty there is a predefined thesis
style to use with LaTeX.  You won't have to think about it at all.
This is especially true for equatins - I've seen so many WYSISYG
equations (that peaple have spent hours trying to arange and size
things) that look really goofy.  With TeX or LaTeX it's either
perfect, or it's wrong.  with even a _little_ practice, you can be
whipping out sexy (in the eye of the beholder) equations with out
thinking about it.  Anyone who can balance paren's and brackets will
do splendidly.

Also, the AmigaTeX is a _great_ rendition -- the previewer is a
dream.

Good luck,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Bugs/comments on Art Expression/BME
From: dyer@nrlvx1.nrl.navy.mil (Doug Dyer)
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:32:04 -0400
Organization: NRL SPACE SYSTEMS DIVISION

OOPS... I made some errors when entering this.  my comments in []


> Art Expression 1.01:
> 
> 	The pie slice percentages requester TOTAL field misplaces the 
> text below the box (actually, I think the box is misplaced) when TOPAZ 
> font is not being used (ie: screen is workbench). sigh...
>
	[AE is NOT font sensitive, only the menus are. The requesters remain
	in TOPAZ, but even so, the total field has this problem]
 
> 
> 	AE loves our Topaz Font.  Yet it will use the prefs font if you 
> request it use the workbench screen.  It even uses the ASL 
> requesters...  Why won't softlogik handle prefs better?
>
	[See above, my mistake.  AE menus only are font sensitive, and ONLY
when the product is on your workbench]
> 	While dealing with fonts is a strong point with this package, it 
> is odd to have to enter/change fonts only through requesters and not 
> have a font "cross-hair" to select text and type on the screen itself.
>
	[I meant "odd to have to enter/change my TEXT", not fonts. sorry]

> 	Well, that wraps up the obvious,  but believe me this is one 
> powerful program.  Its strengths greatly outweigh these flaws and I 
> hope softlogik gives it many updates :)
> 
> 
> -- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: dconnors@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (David Connors)
Subject: Disk Masher Authors...
Organization: Griffith University.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:15:28 GMT

Hi,

Does anyone have an e-mail address for SDS Software, the authors
or Disk Masher?

A source code version of the testing (verification) routines from
DMS would be extremely usfull to allow people to test DMS archives
on Unix hosts prior to downloading them. I've often retreived files 
across the net and spent quite some time downloading them at
2400 baud only to find them stuffed!

Any help would be appreciated.


   Dave Connors - D.Connors@sct.gu.edu.au     Griffith University, Australia
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: wlrobert@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (william lester roberts)
Subject: Re: Small Business Package needed
Summary: Service Industry Accounting
Keywords: SAI Business software
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:54:17 GMT

>>I am looking for a program that can do invoices, look up customer info,
>>etc.  I guess an accounting package that can cross reference to a 
>>database program could be set up to do that kind of thing...
>>
>For generally usage:
>
>small business --- Business Front, Nimbus 1.4, Home Account 2
>  big business --- B.E.S.T. 3.0, Accountant 2.0, Service Industry
>                   Accounting 
>
>For serious usage:
>
>Buy an IBM PC or emulator or bridgeboard.

I tried using Service Industry Accounting for a small business and found
it to be totally inadaquate.  A combination of Phasar, Superbase, and 
Analyze was far more versital.  SIA had many bugs, and even when it worked as
specified, it didn't specify anything useful.



Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: hellerS@moravian.edu (sjh)
Subject: Re: DirOpus V4.0 (MICRO-REVIEW)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 11:12:59 EST

In <1993Jan07.013622.103166@zeus.calpoly.edu> clin@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chihtsung Jeffrey Lin) writes:

>Does V4.0 support publicscreen? (Use it as  publicscreen or open it in a
>publicscreen). Can you have more than 2 directory windows on screen?

You can't have more than 2 windows on the same screen, but now you can
specify varying widths and type of contents of each directory window (i.e.
the left side may contain ONLY Assigned Device names and the right window
may have full files - just an example, lots of options here too).
There are public screen options, and you can run as many copies of DOpus as
you like. I got my copy from Computer Shopping Network last week and I
really am impressed with this program. There are many nice changes that
make configuration a breeze. And the documentation is considerably better
than in the previous version. Customizing this program is almost as fun as
a "good game"! I LIKE IT!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Flow Charting Software
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:22:15 GMT

cadpoole@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Dale Poole) writes:

>I'm a newbie programmer, currently in the throes of flow charting. Designing
>the charts is no big deal, but putting them into a form that is neat and
>easy to read for my instructors is a different matter.

>I have constructed some easy objects in DPaint, but DPaint doesn't seem to
>fill the entire page, leaving little vertical room for long charts.

You can make Dpaint fill up an 8.5x11 sheet of paper by playing with the page
size (number of pixels horizontally and vertically).  I used to do a small
newsletter this way (I couldn't afford DTP stuff, and still can't!)

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From: adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Prowrite vs. Final Copy II
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:52:44 GMT
Organization: Andrews University

In article <C0E7Cs.7p3@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose) writes:
>kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:
>>Hi,
>
>>I'd just like to know which has better print quality -- Prowrite 3.3 or
>>Final Copy II?  MS-Word prints out beautiful documents on inkjet or 24 pin
>>printers, but Excellence! (which I'm using now) looks very very sad by
>>comparison.  I really think a $1500 Amiga should be able to produce print
>>quality as good as Windows, right?
>
[deleted]
>Maybe someone at Softwood will fix the interface to adhere to the Style guide
>and add support for CG fonts - if they do, they'll convert me from ProWrite
>3.3 in an instant.
>
>
>>						---Joel Kolstad
>-- 
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The CG fonts had problems with kerning which even prowrite has not been able
to solve.  I dont think Softwood would add CG font support until this bug
is fixed.  Commodore doesn't seem to want to fix it and New Horizons says
it's commodore's problem.  Besides, who need the compugraphic fonts if
you've got the much better quality Nimbus Q fonts.  (OK, I realize some of
you who do a lot of import/export documents to other programs may want
compugraphic font support. :)

Edsel
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:43:11 GMT

Lloyd> Personally, I can't fathom why anyone would use a computer to do Home
Lloyd> Finances.  ...  I use a calculator.

Jon> A calculator suffices for balancing your checkbook, but have you tried
Jon> keeping a ledger of your assets and liabilities...

Lloyd> Yes, I do all that, and more, in my consulting business. I use a
Lloyd> spreadsheet to do it.

Ha!  So you *do* use a computer, after all!  (That is, unless you do your
spreadsheets by hand.)  So there!

(BTW, I thought what you wrote about pre-rolled vs. flexible software to be
interesting.  It gets at the whole issue of mechanism vs. policy -- you
want software which provides mechanisms to do whatever you want to do, but
doesn't enforce a particular policy for *how* to do it.)
-- 
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From: bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Calendar/Appt. S/W Needed.
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:35:45 MST
Organization: The Back Burner BBS (via C-Net Amiga)

On Sat  9-Jan-1993  1:34a, Jarrett Knyal wrote:

JK> >What seems harder to find for free is appointment calendar s/w. I'm
JK> >happy to pay lots of money for good s/w. I want something that lets me
JK> >schedule repeating appointments and set alarms. e.g. Monday through
JK> >Friday start an audio alarm at 8 in the morning to tell me to get up
JK> >and go to work, or a reminder the day before the third Sunday of each
JK> >month that I have an Amiga Developers Forum meeting to go to.) It has
JK> >to be enforcer clean, run under AmigaOS 3.0, and should have an AREXX
JK> >port. A smart, prioritized todo list would also be good.

JK> >What are my options? What do people recommend?

Stay tuned for a new epoch.

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From: cg18ffl@icogsci1.ucsd.edu (Spumoni...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: EMACS 18.58/Amiga version 1.26
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:01:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Organization: University of California, San Diego


	I have a few questions about the usage of Emacs 1.26 (the
implementation of 18.58) on an Amiga 3000 with 6megs of RAM and a 52 meg HD. I
can get the basic program to work correctly, i.e. I can load files in, edit
them, save em back out, edit preferences, etc. I have a question concerning
the usage of the M-x-run... commands. This includes LISP, ProLog, dired, and a
couple of other things. Under the Unix system I use, things like LISP and
dired ran more or less as advertised. Now, after getting fifo.library and
Fifo-Handler (Matt Dillon) I wanted to see if I could use these things on the
Amiga version. Unfortunetely, I keep getting the error message
"vfork-insufficient memory" or something like that. I know I have enough
memory (is 3.5 megs free enough?) so there must be something wrong with my
setup. Either that, or lisp and dired are separarte emacs applications that do
not exist yet for the Amiga port. (if I recall, I believe that M-x-run-lisp is
not supported yet, but dired is). There was no real troubleshooting guide
other than the one in the installation doc, so I was wondering if anyone knew
what was happening.
	All replies email or otherwise are appreciated.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: nrichers@trentu.ca (NIKOLAJ RICHERS)
Subject: Re: Tool Manager 2.0 and the "Current Dir" option
Summary: How does one get this to work???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Toolmanager
Organization: Trent Computing and Telecommunications Department
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:24:00 GMT

In article <C0rr7K.AF1@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, djp33563@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David J. Pugliese) writes...
>	I've got Tool Manager running, with 2 icon docks set up.  On the "Exec"
>item screen, there is an entry for "Cuurent Dir"  I assume this is where the program or application is to be launched from, or the current directory changed to.
>I need this option for several programs that need access to support files in    their home directories.  Whenever I specify an entry for "Current Dir" other
>than SYS: (or nothing), any time I try to launch the program, all I get is a    screen flash.
>	Does anybody know how to get this to work?  I've tried everything!
> 
>	thanks,
>	Dave Pugliese
>	d-pugliese@uiuc.edu
> 

	I don't know whether I can diagnose your problem, but I do know that I
am using the 'Current Dir' option in ToolManager 2.0 successfully.

	All I can suggest is that you try to select your current directory with
the button to the left of the field name, rather than enter it by hand.

Nikolaj (1)

__________

(1) Nikolaj Peddie-Richers, Trent University, Canada, nrichers@trentu.ca
From: hellerS@moravian.edu (sjh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: SKsh 2.1 (problems with "&")
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:56:54 GMT
Distribution: na

On a 25mhz '030 powered 2000 under WB2.1, the & (background flag) works
fine. It also worked fine under WB2.04. It DIDN'T work right on earlier
version, but the answer on how to get it working iis in the docs, so read
RTFM!
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From: blatter@amiga.physik.unizh.ch (Martin A. Blatter)
Subject: Re: Art Expression - added features
Organization: ICU - University of Zurich, Dept. of Computer Science
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:53:31 GMT

Scott Devine (aq061@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
: a hotlinks hookup for the Dr2D output, 

This sounds like a good idea. Unfortunately there's currently
no other HotLinks-compatible program supporting DR2D...

: the ability to use old Pagestream fonts 

The forthcoming typeSMITH program from Soft-Logik allows you to
convert old PageStream fonts and Copugraphic Intellifont files
from the Workbench to PostScript Type 1 format.

: ability to edit EPS files..  

This would require Art Expression to have a complete PostScript
interpreter built into the program. I doubt that this will be
possible...

However, AE is already able to edit EPS files from Adobe Illustrator 
and those generated by AE itself (which can be parsed without
a PostScript interpreter).

--Martin

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From: dleslie@phakt.usc.edu (David Leslie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Prowrite vs. Final Copy II
Date: 9 Jan 1993 02:59:01 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


	It's good to hear that Final Copy II output is of good
quality; now how is the speed? Specifically on a Deskjet type
printer. How long should one page of single spaced text take?
The reason I still use Word Perfect is that it will print a
page of Times Roman with no slow down. I sometimes have to use
ProPage, and it can take up to 30 minutes per page(usually about 10)
So, does Final Copy II (or the newest prowrite) offer speed as well
as quality?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: will@austin.ibm.com (Will Fiveash)
Subject: Is there a list of titles that work on 2.1?
Originator: will@vulcan.austin.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:50:38 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin, Tx.
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications

I am looking for a list of software that is known to function under AmigaDOS 2.1.

-- 
Will Fiveash,  "My opinions above, facts below."
Internet:  will@austin.ibm.com
From: mendez@taliesin.greco-prog.fr (Mendez Marc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Changing GNUEmacs Icon
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:47:47 GMT
Organization: LMI (LaBRI University Bordeaux France)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Alfredo Jahn V (alfredo@ajahnv.lonestar.org) wrote:
> Does anyone know how to change the icon used by GNUEmacs 18.58?
> I tried to modify it with IconEdit but without success.

I suppose you talk about the "sink" icon. If yes, I asked for this
possibility to the author. We can't because he don't think it's
necessary to edit it. What's a pity ! I had a funny gnu head !

Marc.

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