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From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date:  9 Sep 92 22:09:18 GMT

In <IeevUX_00WBNQ3CqQh@andrew.cmu.edu> ashish+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ashish Arora) writes:

>Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.indian: 7-Sep-92 Re: Arrogant Indians
>and Su.. by RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET 
>>     4.  Morality  being personal:  This makes  no sense  at all.   How much
>>     credence would you give to a  rapist who says, "you don't to  have rape
>>     if you  don't want  to.  Just  leave MY  life alone"?   I am not one of
>>     those who block entrance to clinics  - but you have to see  that people
>>     who genuinely value the foetus as  a human being have NO option  but to
>>     do the best to stop it.  I do not agree with their tactics but they are
>>     NOT being  in-consistent.  I  am sure  that before  the civil war, many
>>     slave holders said,  "Northerners don't have  to own slaves  if they do
>>     not  want  to.   They  should  just  respect  our  rights".   And other
>>     Southerners, opposed  to slavery  who said  "I don't  like slavery, but
>>     Northerners have no right to dictate to Southerners".

>Surely Mr. Parikh would draw some distinction between morality and legality. 
>The debate is about whether to make abortion illegal. 

And 150 years ago, there was a heated debate on whether:
1. To make slavery illegal and
2. To punish people for hiding fugitive slaves.

> If an act were
>clearly immoral AND the expected consequences of prohibiting less so,
>then one might consider arguments about banning the act.  Mr. Parikh has
>not, to my mind, successfully argued that the immorality of abortion
>weighed against the immorality of forcing women to bear an unwanted
>child to term, is so overwhelming as to make abortion illegal.

If slavery had been clearly immoral to everyone, and the expected
collapse of the Southern economy clearly less terrible than the continued
existence of slavery, history might have come out very differently.

Peter Nyikos

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca (m vishnu)
Subject: Re: Carvaka  (was Re: Vedas are not SHIT)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:36:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.002737.21644@cco.caltech.edu> kanga.caltech.edu!vidya (Vidyasankar Sundaresan) writes:
>In article <BuL1Dv.4os@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca  
>(m vishnu) writes:
>- 
>- Carvaka
>- ^^^^^^^
>- 
>- Here is a quote from the Sankara's Sarvadarsanasamgraha on Carvaka 
>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>- philosophy: (Taken from [1] "Indian Philosophy by Servappillai  
>Radhakrishnan
>- page 233)
>- 
>
>Just to set the record straight, Sarvadarsanasangraha is not a composition  
>of Sankara. It is a work of the 13th - 14th centuries A.D. and is  
>popularly attributed to one Madhava, one of the ministers of the First  
>Dynasty of the Vijayanagar Empire. Sankara lived in the 7th-8th century  
>A.D.. Those research scholars who attribute it to Sankara are wrong  
>because the work takes pains to address the objections of Ramanuja  
>(Vishistadvaita) and Madhva (Dvaita) to Advaita philosophy. Thus, it is  
>definitely at least contemporary to Madhva if not later than him. 
>
>S.Vidyasankar  

My apologies; I made a mistake.  sarva-darsana-samgraha is indeed written
by Madhava Acarya.  I confused it with sarva-siddhanta-samgraha, which
Radhakrishanan says is written by Sankara.

Thank you for pointing out,

Meenan Vishnu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dhar@oregon.uoregon.edu (Sanjay Dhar)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: Materials Science Institute
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:13:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.221352.29685@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:

>mg819305@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:

>>1. Do you think that Pakistan should pull out of Kashmir before the
>>   plebiscite?
>>2. How will Kashmir provide safety for all nonmuslims driven away
>>   by the terrorists?
>>3. Do you think that Kashmir should be an islamic state?
>>4. Pakistan has already fought two wars for Kashmir, how do you
>>   think Kashmir can protect itself from Pakistan?

>>Do you have anwsers for this questions?

>>Manoj

> It is the mitual understanding bet. India-Pakistan-Kashmiris-U.N.
>  what to do before Plebiscit.
>  Indo-Pak govt. says the issue of Kashmir is between them and ignore
> Kashmiris subject.
>  Kashmiris are asking to negotiate with them about the fate of Kashmir.

>Ans.1: Kashmiris would ask both army should pull out before plebiscit.
>A.2 This is very critical question because the correct news of Kashmiri
>   minorities left Kashmir for what reasons is still debated with 
>  different ideas. 

Is still deabated ???? Only for you. Go to delhi/jammu and try asking any of 
the kashmiri's living in camps as to why they left kashmir, the only place 
they had ever lived in for generations and generations.

>  Suppose we consider that Kashmiris are 
driven out by militiant then>  JKLF, a secular party, having wide popularity 
among Kashmiris will >  take all measurements to take back Minorities.


JKLF is secular??? If they have not been making demands to join pak, that 
does not make them secular.


>A.3. As far as I know most Kashmiris support JKLF, a secular party.
>    If Kashmirs are selecting Islamic Fundamentalist party then they are
>   blowing axes on their lags because....
>   Kashmiris main income is from toursit and Carpet business.
>   For tourist they have to provide all means.
>   Eventhough Kashmir being Muslim dominated there is no ban on alcohol.


Some of the first acts of terrorists was to close down all movie theatres,
and bars with actual violence like coming in and breaking all liquor bottles 
and threatening the owners.


>A.4 Pakistan is a big question but India is not 
less.>    Who knows what is hidden in the heart of both land?
>   In India it seems BJP , a party believing in Akhannd Bharat, may come 
>  to power and tomorrow it may take control over Pakistan.
>  I am not trying to give round about answer of this question.
>  Once again,
>Who knows what is hidden in the heart of both land which has made KAshmir as
>their colony?


>Bye
>Adil

dhar@oregon.uoregon.edu
home:(503)-345-3556   off:(503)-346-4762
From: bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Test
Date: 9 Sep 92 10:19:14 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <21792@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, srik@cs.arizona.edu (Srikanth Raghavan) writes:
> In article <1497@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca>, farook@cs.uwindsor.ca (FAROOK A WADIA           ) writes:
>> Yet Another Fucking Indian joins the gang !!
> 
> 		^^^^^
> What gang????  Thrilled eh! 
  ~~~~~~~~~~~
Gang of f***ing indians??? eh!!!
 
-sergei vodka vibgyor.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -srik
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,talk.abortion
From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:41:06 GMT

In <bq7ymff@rpi.edu> cookc@aix.rpi.edu (rocker) writes:

>nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:

>>And 150 years ago, there was a heated debate on whether:
>>1. To make slavery illegal and
>>2. To punish people for hiding fugitive slaves.

>Today there is a heated debate on whether:
>1. To make slavery legal
>2. To punish those who refuse to be slaves

This, of course, is rocker's theory, shared by lots of pro-choicers
on this net, as to what restrictions
on abortion are all about.

>>If slavery had been clearly immoral to everyone

>How could slavery have been clearly immoral to everyone?  I 
>imagine the majority were Christian at the time, and the Bible
>clearly _condones_ slavery.

Thanks, you are just reinforcing the point I was making.  However,
it should be pointed out that the slavery of Roman times and the
chattel slavery of the antebellum South were somewhat different
concepts.

>>Peter Nyikos

>                   -rocker

Peter Ny.

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From: subrat@cirrus.com (Subrat Mohapatra)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,ba.market.housing,ba.general
Subject: WANTED: Roommate in Milpitas or its vicinity.
Keywords: roommate, milpitas, bay area
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:57:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.


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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:30517 talk.abortion:35426
From: sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Date: 7 Sep 1992 18:37:54 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <1992Sep7.164348.7373@news.columbia.edu>, rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde) writes:
|> In article <92251.085637RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
|> >
|> >    I thanks all the people who replied to my posting.  Rather than quote
|> >    everyone in detail, I will respond to various issues that people have
|> >    raised.
|> ***********a lot of stuff deleted ************************************
|> >
|> >    7.  The amusing thing is that  Cuomo and Clinton are both pro-life  and
|> >    Bush  is  pro-choice.   But  they  know  where  their  votes are.  When
|> >    politics  makes  strange  bed-fellows,  it  is  bound  to  happen  that
|> >    reproduction (or the need to prevent it) becomes a major issue!!
|> >
|> >    Rohit Parikh
|> >
|> 
|> 
|>  I am missing something here. Both Cuomo and Clinton are pro-life ? Bush
|>  is pro-choice ?  I must have been reading the wrong news papers or 
|>  listening to the wrong network.

Cuomo and Clinton are both personally opposed to the idea of abortions and
would not consider it as a solution to a pregnancy if they were asked. In
that sense, they are pro-life without being anti-abortion-rights. Bush, being
once a firm supporter of Planned Parenthood [I believe it was one of his
father, Senator Prescott Bush's (R-CT) favorite charities] probably falls into 
the same category but switched over in 1980 and has been strongly anti-abortion 
rights since then.

I am not sure if that's what Rohit meant though...

|> 
|>   Raghu

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:49:10 EDT
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Jayalalitha's emissaries meet LTTE: Disturbing report
Distribution: na
 <18ophoINNbhr@phad.hsc.usc.edu>

In article <18ophoINNbhr@phad.hsc.usc.edu>, banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit
Banerjee) says:
>
>The photograph was subsequently proven to be a forgery and a clearly defensive
>Subramanium Swamy tried to wriggle out of the whole episode by claiming that
>the picture was given to him by an aide. Clearly a man low on credibility, at
>least in my book.
>

Subramanium Swamy is a man of lowest credibility.

Deepak


>Hope it helps you to put things in perspective.
>
>Samit
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>
>>regards
>>
>>
>>ravi
>
>
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Subject: [soc.culture.indian] FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

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From: shalan@engr.latech.edu (Shivram Halan)
Subject: Nitya/abortion rights
Reply-To: shalan@engr.latech.edu
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:58:57 GMT


	"Life is indeed a beautiful choice, Ms. Feldstein". You  and I and many others are living proof. The united states government is doing its best in providing homes, education... There's more to it. 
	Let me address the core.

Time reported that Roe vs Wade is moot. How many people really know what roe vs wade is all about. I'm speaking from louisiana, the state whose house abolished abortion. If you look carefully, lawmakers in louisiana want to be known as the as the first to successfully overturn roe vs wade.
	Roe vs wade addresses abortion in the first three months of pregnancy. This includes incest, rape..and parental consent. Personally roe vs wade is not moot. The woman has three months to decide about an abortion. how much more time does she need to make the decision. Do you want to decide after nine months that you want an abortion because you cannot take care of the child and it is your constitution right. The state provides for the child if you are on welfare
	An article in fortune magazine compared a welfare mother with two kids and a working mother ( a job at macdonalds,...) with two kids. The mother on welfare gets about $1200 more per year than a mother who is working. She gets about $ 2500 in child support. Colleges offer loans.... All the child has to do is study, and get a good education.

	Most successfull Indians come from families who have strong family values. They know how much support the family provides in their most depressed moments. Compare american families and indian families. You can see a lot of difference. President bush has refered to the indian families as the model that american families need to look upto and learn. Behind everysuccessful person is a family that supports him/her and has supported  him/her to the hilt. This is to address your question of the fear of rejectio




n and betrayal...felt by the child....when abandoned. 
Don't confuse the issues. of abortion and animal rights. Each is sensitive, difficult and confusing. Hope this can be discussed further with other netters.

I've made far reaching statements. So flamers, don't pick up one statement and treat it as the media does. I welcome discussion rationally.

shiv 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.usa
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: Re: Naive Foreigners (Re: Nitya/abortion rights/s.s.chawathe)
Summary: Subtle Eugenics
Keywords: Subtle Eugenics
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 04:31:13 GMT

 
-From: prabhak@atto.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) 
- 
- 
-        If Judy Mann had called me, I would have suggested that 
-        multiculturalism is explicitly wrong, because it denies 
-        the superiority of Western values as a way of life for 
-        humans! 
- 
-                                        -- Newt Gingrich 
-                                        Republican Whip 
-                        *** 
- 
-        "Machiavelli was more daring; when he served the devil 
-         he disdained going about his business in the livery of 
-         heaven.." 
- 
-Republicans have mastered the art of codeword propaganda. Lest -
-the naive foreigners were to miss the point, the word 'family -
-values" is the Republican codeword for heterosexual, white anglo
-saxon, two parent family which disdains abortion and perhaps ---
-even contraception. Are we there yet? Nope. To really belong to
-the core of the Republican party you must be in the upper ------
-reaches of social position. Call that 
-'rich.' Oh, I forgot, you gotta believe in Judeo-Christian God,
-For as President Bush said once that atheists should not -------
-probably be considered good citizens of good ol' USA! 
- 
-Satya Prabhakar 
 

Sorry to butt in on your debate - but I thought I should applaud
the above. I am sure Arun Gupta will find this an intersting
example of 'subtle ' (using todays morals in the U.S.) eugenics.

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Request for Phd programs in 
From: schandu@matrix.cs.wright.edu
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:48:03 EDT
Organization: Wright State University College of Engineering and Computer Science
Nntp-Posting-User: schandu


  Hi!

	I need some information on school offering the Phd
program in Management . This is for a friend of mine who is doing his
MBA in India and would like to come to USA for doing Phd in that field.
I would appreciate if anyone can send me a mail about the schools
which offer good Phd program and the possible chances of getting
any financial support. My friend is planning to join the program in
 FALL '93. Please send the responses to the given E-mail address.


Thanks,
Swamy V. L. Chandu

E-mail address :- schandu@valhalla.cs.wright.edu

Dept. of Mechanical Engineering,
Wright State University,
Dayton, Ohio.


 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9205802@cc.uow.edu.au (muralidharan chinnaiyan)
Subject: Looking for Harikrishnan from CIT, Coimbatore
Summary: Harikrishnan from CIT,Coimbatore!
Keywords: Harikrishnan from CIT COIMBATORE
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 11:19:46 GMT

I'm looking for P.HARIKRISHNAN who did his BE(Mech)
at CIT, Coimbatore in the 1985-88 batch.I heard that
he was in some university in Illinois. If you happen 
to know him please ask him to contact me .

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UNIVERSITY OF WOLLONGONG,
P.O.BOX 1144, WOLLONGONG,
NSW 2500, AUSTRALIA.
PHONE# (042)213043
FAX#   (042)213238
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: srini@ecf.toronto.edu (KANDALA SRINIVAS)
Subject: Re: THE COW!!
Keywords: Chakk de Phattey!!
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:40:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.202051.7624@ncsa.uiuc.edu> vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan) writes:
>
>Actually, I think it can be classified as an urban legend. Nobody saw it,
>nobody knew him/her, everybody heard about it from somebody, who heard
>somebody mention that it was published in some magazine (for a start, a
>reputed magazine after it gets around a bit)...
>
and actually i recall reading something similar to this atleast
five years back (more like seven or eight years).

srini

>Vijay.


-- 
Blue Jays: 1992 World Champions 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.indian.telugu
From: nakkala@cs.tamu.edu (Venkatesh Nakkala)
Subject: JOKE....ON A DESI COMING TO THE US.....
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:03:36 GMT

  
  This is something I picked from one of my friends here.ENJOY ......
  Sorry if this had already been posted on the net earlier....

  I am an Italiano.
  
  One day ima gonna LA to bigga hotel.  Ina morning I go down to eat
  breakfast.  I tella waitress I wanna two pisses toast.  She brings me  
  only one piss.  I tella her I want two piss.  She say go to the  
  toilet.  I say you no understand, I wanna to piss onna my plate.  She  
  say you better no piss onna plate, you sonna ma bitch.  I don't even  
  know the lady and she call me sonna ma bitch.
  
  Later I go to eat at the bigga restaurant.  The waitress brings me a
  spoon and knife but no fock.  I tella her I wanna fock.  She tell me  
  everyone wanna fock.  I tella her you no understand.  I wanna fock on  
  the table.  She say you better not fock on the table, you sonna ma  
  bitch.  So I go back to my room ina hotel and there is no shits onna  
  my bed.  Call the manager and tella him I wanna shit.  He tell me to  
  go to toilet.  I say you no understand.  I wanna shit on my bed.  He  
  say you better not shit onna bed, you sonna ma bitch.
  I go to the checkout and the man at the desk say: "Peace on you."
  I say piss on you too, you sonna ma bitch, I gonna back to Italy.
  
  
  Venkatesh Nakkala. 
  
  
  
  
  


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Subject: Re: Sati is for our good!!
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:59:12 GMT

>In article <1561@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> av2@ukc.ac.uk (A.Varshneya) writes:
>>In article <754@iac.uunet.uu.net> iac!meha@uunet.uu.net writes:
>>>Hey, you have been hanging around too many men that you have not realized
>>>that women are the ONLY 'intelligent' ones, period!!!
>>>- Meha             
>>:-) Being a gentleman, I can only smile and nod. :-)
>>Atul
>>A man opened a door for a women.
>>"You don't have to do that because I am a lady.", the liberated women said.
>>"Right", the man replied, "I did it because I am a gentleman."
>
>I like your reply.  So after all Mr. Suresh is not a gentleman.
>
>-Meha


No I'm sweet and naughty!!.......Mr. Rajesh Beri are you listening?
					does this smell of N2 O


Suresh

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