HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Creating 'unzip' help
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:49:04 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Try those files this way instead. First rename the files to something
like unzip.1a, unzip.1b, and unzip.2. Then edit all three files and remove
the header lines and the blank line following the header. This isn't so
important on unzip.1a and unzip.2 as it is on unzip.1b. Now merge
unzip.1a and unzip.1b:

	cat unzip.1a unzip.1b >unzip.1

The next step is to uudecode and rename the resulting files:

	uudeocde unzip.1
	mv ftpmail.uu unzip.tar.Zaa
	uudecode unzip.2
	mv ftpmail.uu unzip.tar.Zab

The files are now in the original state as on the archive site before
you downloaded them. To finish the job, merge these two files, decompress,
and untar:

	cat unzip.tar.Zaa unzip.tar.Zab >unzip.tar.Z
	decompress unzip.tar
	tar xvf unzip.tar

But don't forget to to strip the mail headers from the original files
you received, otherwise you may get bogus output from uudecode.

	-- Greg
From: sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu (Jay C. Beavers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: MWC-BBS mirror
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:09:44 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.coherent
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network

In article <1992Sep10.142107.26705@mr.med.ge.com>, sidney@picard.med.ge.com
(Bill Sidney MPE 4-6324) wrote:
> 
> I've read where raven.alaska.edu, will carry MWC-BBS files, and believe that
> is great.  I seem to remember that orca.alaska.edu, was set up as a 
> Coherent Users Group, and was mirroring the MWC-BBS. What is the status 
> of these sites? 
> 
> SIDE NOTE:
> 
> I received 4.01 (YEAH!!), and found reference to other users groups, and 
> MWC-BBS mirrors. 
> 
> -=Sid=-

#1.  Orca.alaska.edu carried (carries) a mirror of MWCBBS back from 09/91. 
It's still there until the new mirror arrives.

#2.  Raven.alaska.edu contains a mirror of the old Piggy.uscb.edu (is that
right?) that went down many months ago plus many additional files that have
been uploaded since then.

#3.  I've talked with MWC multiple times about getting a mirror of MWCBBS
files.  I've had them promised to me twice.  About a month ago, I was
promised that they were shipping real soon now....

Status of the archives?  Not wonderful.  I do not currently run Coherent
and so I'm very limited in what I can test or even describe.  At this
point, I'm starting to get multiple copies of the same application (nn,
uucp), most without any attempt at description.  My responce so far has
been to keep both copies on the archive, but this isn't exactly a wonderful
solution.  Any suggestions?

 - jcb

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                                        |    jay@seaspray.uacn.alaska.edu
Jay C. Beavers                          |    sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu
University of Alaska Computer Network   |    sxjcb@alaska.bitnet
________________________________________|_____________________________________
From: sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu (Jay C. Beavers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: FTP Mail Service to Raven
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:02:33 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.coherent
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network


A few people have written me asking about how to get files from Raven via
mail.  There is an FTP-to-mail service provided by DEC's Western Research
Labs.  Taken directly from the Anonymous FTP List FAQ:

Send mail to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com with 'help' in the body of the letter. 
You CANNOT send a blank letter, commands are not optional.

For instance, a mail message of:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To: ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
From: me@my.mail.address
Subj: ls -ltR Retrieval from Coherent Archive on Raven.Alaska.Edu

reply me@my.mail.address
connect raven.alaska.edu
ascii
chdir pub/coherent
get ls-ltR
quit

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

will retrieve the directory listing for Raven.

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                                        |    jay@seaspray.uacn.alaska.edu
Jay C. Beavers                          |    sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu
University of Alaska Computer Network   |    sxjcb@alaska.bitnet
________________________________________|_____________________________________
From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Poor performance.
Date: 08 Sep 92 10:10
Organization: Magick Shoppe, Gurth City

rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
> 
> I just took a look at Dhrystone 1.1 and came up with some guesses.
> 
> 1. The Coherent c compiler is not Dhrystone aware.  Compilers that are will
>    use inline code for library subroutines.

One solution to get a true comparison:

1. Make an assembler file out of the C program (with cc -S).
2. Assemble it on the other OS.
3. Compare
4. Do the same vice versa

And please let us know the numbers!  --ralf
Date: Sun,  6 Sep 92 14:57:00 +0200
From: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de (Rudi Ferrari)
Subject: Masterboot and other OS...
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
X-Comment-To: david@r-node.gts.org (Gerald Abshez)
Organization: Magic Point of C.O.N. Project Cologne  *FRG* 


 > masterboot, and Coherent. Install Dual Boot OS/2. Note, however, that
 > for this to work you *Can't* install OS/2 on a HPFS drive, although
 > you could use HPFS on some partitions, and you still must use dual
 > boot.

Well, that's it! I would like to install OS/2 on a HPFS partition.
It seems I do have to install the bootmanager (and ofcourse Masterboot) :-(
Or I have to leave the "user"-partition for Coh, but it is, although
it is only me that uses the system, always better to keep Coh`s system
seperatly from user.
Thanx for answering :-)

      ____
Lambo/Rudi                     >>> internet: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de <<<
~~~~~

---
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mcampbel@eola.cs.ucf.edu (Mike Campbell )
Subject: Re: The extent of 4.0 v.1 problems
Organization: University of Central Florida
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:24:44 GMT

: Site names >7 characters :
: 
: 	Although uucp warns against site names >7 characters, it will
: 	accept them. I was hoping that by using the MYNAME= in Permissions
: 	that I could get my system to actually send >7 character site names.
: 	Unfortunatly, that is NOT true, and regardless of what you specify
: 	in Permissions your site name will always be truncated to 7 characters.
: 	Again, not a bug, but it should probably be made more clear in the
: 	manual (and I should probably pay more attention to warnings :-).

I know this happened in 3.2.x.  I had to change my sitename over it.  I was
under the (apparantly mis-)understanding that this was to change.  Oh well.

: 
: Protection problems on uucp files :
: 
: 	Coherent creates mail files (both /usr/spool/mail... and when you
: 	's'ave a message) with permissions 644, which allows world read.
: 	I have read that this is fixed with a download from MWCBBS.

Would this be listed in the coherent.UPD file?
: 
: 	Also, the uumvlog script will create new, empty log files with
: 	the default ownership and protection of the process running it.
: 	If you run it from root, for example, you will get log files with
: 	the ownership of root. The next time that uucico tries to run
: 	under uucp, it cannot write to the log files, and dies. Running
: 	uucheck -f will fix this problem ... until uumvlog runs again.
: 	I believe this is also supposed to be fixed with the above patch,
: 	however it is also easy enough to fix in the script itself.

This is exactly correct.  A (good?) way to circumvent this is to read
(VERY CAREFULLY) the manual.  Under the UUCP (in the beginning part of 
the manual, not the regular man entry), section, they show the crontab
entry as (going from memory):

00 03 * * * su uucp /usr/lib/uucp/uumvlog 5

Su'd as uucp.  I had to hunt and dig for that for 15-20 mins, but I KNEW
I had seen it somewhere...  =)
From: pershing@teal.csn.org (Paul Pershing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Deleting Masterboot without reinstalling?
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:59:29 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.


Hello - I see that one way to delete MWC's Masterboot is to install DOS....
well, I decided to switch _back_ to DR DOS 6 from MS DOS 5, installed it,
and guess what? That's right! MWC's Masterboot be gone. Now, the question
is, do I have to go through a _whole_ installation again just to rewrite the
MWC bootstrap? And what about all the files I have in the Coh4 filesystem?
Are they history as well?

Thanks for any input,

Paul

-- 
++++--------------------------------++++--------------------------------++++ 
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RMN * 400 W. Colfax Ave. Denver, CO 80204 * (303)-233-9231 or (303)-892-2633
++++--------------------------------++++--------------------------------++++
From: sxjcb@ORCA.ALASKA.EDU ("Jay C. Beavers")
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: beta for installable news ready
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:19:02 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network

In article <9209101522.AA18694@dalek.mwc.com>, you wrote:
>
> Okay, the beta for an installable news package based on wnews, vn and
> tass is ready to go.
>
> Question: How best to post? The compressed archive is 723343 bytes. I
> can uuencode and post to this group if no one objects. I can (and will)
> make it available on mwcbbs, but it will be a BIG download!
>
> Any constructive feedback is welcome!
>
> --
> 		   MWC Technical Support (bob@mwc.com)
> (====================]          _____
>          \\             (===================)
>    (======\\======]         /// ~~~~~	      Are you sure it isn't time
>            \\/             ///	              for a colorful metaphor?
>     ===========================
>      =========================(

Bob, if you drop it off to Raven, it can be accessed via anonymous FTP or
via a mail server to anonymous FTP.  Probably the best way is via mailing
disks, so you could try 305 Wedgewood Dr., Apt A-35  Fairbanks, AK 99701.
Also, there is supposed to be a mailing of MWCBBS mirrors soon, so maybe
you could include it with that.

 - jcb (Raven's administrator)

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Jay C. Beavers                          |    sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu
University of Alaska Computer Network   |    sxjcb@alaska.bitnet
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From: karl@dadoka.h.ni.schule.de (Karl Sarnow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: newsfeed appeal for help
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 16:14:36 EDT
Organization: Karls Emergency Mailbox

tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan) writes:

....

> Note to mwc- I would gladly have paid 50% more for a Coherent that 
> had a newsfeed/reader as a part of it.

I fully agree!!!

Karl

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From: tpa10@ccc.amdahl.com (Thomas P. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: help with modem
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:57:06 GMT
Reply-To: tpa10@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Thomas P. Anderson)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <01GOIQ9EIDBM8Y54Z8@delphi.com> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>> > I'm having a problem with setting up my modem with coherent, after
>> > days of messing around with it, i finally figured out that my modem
>> > defaults to "strapping" the DTR ...
  ... (words of frustration and snide remarks from others deleted) ...
>user.  If i had known my modem was incompatible with coherent i would
>have thought twice about buying it, unfortunately i can't return my
  ... (modeminit, etc. deleted) ..
Don't give up!  I had EXACTLY the same problem:  my 2400 baud worked
great, but 9600 baud died on the vine.  I noticed that the DEFAULT for
the modem was DTR strapped.  I solved it by adding the appropriate "Q"
command to my mwcbbs "chat script".  I also changed the script to use the
NON-TELEBIT 9600 phone number (which I don't have handy at the moment).
Also, I noticed that in your modeminit, etc. the words "2400 baud" show
up now and again.  Not to be insulting, but have you defined a seperate
'system' in L.sys or taken any some other means to distinguish between
your 2400 and 9600 baud transactions?

Hope this helps out.
BTW had any problems with "inode busy" messages when a CRON process
takes off?
Tom A.
From: karl@dadoka.h.ni.schule.de (Karl Sarnow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: smail blues
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 14:43:27 EDT
Organization: Karls Emergency Mailbox

kwfriber@mtu.edu (Kenberg Frieth) writes:

> I finally got a UUCP account here on campus, and now I am trying to make
> mail work.  I can receive mail from compus just fine, but whenever I try
> to send mail out, root gets a message from MAILER-DAEMON (smail 2.?) that
> the address could not be resolved.  I have tried sending to friberg@mtu.edu,
> and to mtu.edu!friberg and neither one works.  My paths file has a line
> 
> mtu.edu  mtu.edu!%s  ???
> 
> where I forget now what the third field is and the fields are separated
> by spaces.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Not spaces: One Tab!

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                                          ODS : Offenes Deutsches Schulnetz
or          karl@dadoka.h.ni.schule.de	/	Open for german Schools.
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CompuServe: 100010,601
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: UUINSTALL
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:42:58 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us (kalki) writes:
: 
:  I just got Coherent 4.0.0 and boy do I feel stupid now!
:  (MsDos user: "Why do they have to make it so complicated?")

:-)

:  Whenever I login as "uucp" the system appears to lock up and the prompt
:  displays "shere=(my system name)"
: 
:  Anyone have time to advise me? I can't even log on to mwcbbs.

The login `uucp' can't be used for a local login, because it doesn't run
a shell for user interaction. As shell it run /usr/lib/uucp/uucico,
which is a programm that manages remote logins via the UUCP system from
other systems. The uucico on your system wants to talk to another
uucico and what you get onto the display is a part of the UUCP protocol.
Login as user kalki (or wathever you've created for an
account to work with) and then use the command uucp to get a file from
mwcbbs. You can't log on to mwcbbs in realtime like to your next DOS bbs,
MWC doesn't give shell accounts to users. They allow UUCP connections only,
and you may upload and download files, and send and receive electronic mail.
Before you do anything else you should read the Coherent manual starting
on page 347 and the release notes starting on page 32. Yes I know, a lot
to read and you want the connection yet, but there is no way arround it.
--
Udo Munk     | voice:      +49 2131 275348             | uucp: +49 2131 278869
Oberstr. 21  | mail :      udo@umunk.GUN.de            |     2400/1200/300 8N1
4040 Neuss 1 | ...!{mcshh,smurf,unido}!easix!umunk!udo | MYNAME=bbsuser
Fed. Rep. of | CompuServe: 100021,2515                 | login: uucp
Germany      | first get /usr/spool/uucppublic/info    | pwd:   public
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: cnews utilities fixed and another problem found
From: cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!root  (David John Murdoch at duncan)
Organization: Duncan Computer Centre and Home Brewery
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:37:50 GMT
Reply-To: root@duncan.UUCP (David John Murdoch at duncan)

In article <1992Sep09.100733.19641@acme.gen.nz> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>root@duncan.UUCP (David John Murdoch at duncan) writes:
>
>> But I have discovered that new directories are not created by cnews
>> when a new newsgroup is received and it is explicitly listed in sys i.e.
>> ME:news.future,news.sysadmin,...
>> How do I turn on creating new directories when a new expected newsgroup 
>> is received.
>
>Is the newsgroup in your active file (/usr/lib/news/active)? If not, use
>/usr/lib/newsbin/maint/addgroup to create the group locally. If it is in
>active, relaynews will automatically create the necessary spool directories.
>
>						- k
>-- 
>Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
>"Jub'f Xvob?"

Well, that's how I usually do it, but occasionally I'll get mail telling
me that so-and-so@some.place had created alt.somegroup locally. When I
look in my active file the group is entered but no spool directory has
been created. 

Cheers,

David

-- 
 __________________________________________________________________________
 David Murdoch * cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!djm * Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada  
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Can coherent handle 8-bit characters?
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:58:20 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Patrick Stickler writes:
> Does anyone know if Coherent supports the extended ASCII character
> set (i.e. 127-255, European characters, etc)??

Coherent supports the same character set as MS-DOS so you can use the
full complement of the IBM extended character set. If you need an ASCII
table, use this quick 'n routine:

	for(i = 32; i < 256; i++)
		printf("%03d = %c   ", i, (char) i);

Adjust the number of spaces after %c to get everything to line up in nice
neat columns, and change %03d to %03x for hex, or (I think) %03o for octal
(been a while since I fiddled with octal).

	-- Greg
From: kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us (kalki)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: UUINSTALL                
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 21:10:19 EDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r


 I just got Coherent 4.0.0 and boy do I feel stupid now!
 (MsDos user: "Why do they have to make it so complicated?")

 Whenever I login as "uucp" the system appears to lock up and the prompt
 displays "shere=(my system name)"

 Anyone have time to advise me? I can't even log on to mwcbbs.
---
 * OLX 2.1 TD * Kalki's Infoline, 803-643-3172, Aiken, SC, USA
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Thoughts on porting software/tips...
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 02:56:23 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

daler@Armstrong.EDU (Dale Reagan) writes:

> I sent this message to MWC several weeks ago and did not get a response
> (for whatever reason, probably no person had time due to the 4.0 release...)
>  
> *******************************************************************
>  
> Many of the so called 'ports' of USENET software have been lacking in 
> consistency/quality.  They have really (mostly) been 'hacked up' to work under 
> Coherent and not 'ported' (i.e. many features do not work as they should or 
> work poorly(i.e. the CNEWS port) I [previously] suggested that you (since you 
> guys are supposed to really know your product) supply your user base with a 
> short introductory guide to porting USENET type software to Coherent. 

This is a nice idea, but is it MWC's job? It might be something they want to
do, to encourage more software being available for Coherent, but is it
something we should expect them to provide? You're asking them to become
familiar with a heck of a lot of operating systems to provide the sort of
information you want.

>         - I really want to try running X but since 4.0 is text based I
>           will have to wait for or try to port on my own...  What 
>           suggestions (if any) do you have for such a project?  :-)

Wait for the device driver kit. Without a device driver for your video card I
don't think you could get X to work.

						- k
--
From: vax@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vax)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Error: cannot open sys/fcntl.h ???
Date: 6 Sep 92 09:43:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep4.092402.3764@spcvxb.spc.edu> mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>Wnews is getting closer to working, however, I just started to
>get this error:
>
>cannot open sys/fcntl.h
>
>This happens when inews.c is being compiled.  Why does this happen?
>I thought sys/fcntl.h is a standard header file?
>
I have had this problem too.  It appears that (at least in my version) fcntl.h
was accidentally put in /usr/include, not /usr/include/sys.  Either that or the
manual was not edited to reflect the change (if it changed when 4.0 came out).
One solution is to make a link, the other is to move the file, the third is to
edit out the 'sys/' in the #include statement in your source.

-- 
EOM
Protect our endangered bandwidth - reply by email.
VAX#N8 vax@ccwf.utexas.edu
From: Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bret Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Minicom and Xc
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 05:20:16 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/1110.1 - Flying High!, Marietta OH

Has anyone gotten mincom or Xcmalt to work under 4.0.1?

I thought the Makefiles where pretty much plug and play but I 
can not get either of them to run..

Thanks,
                       Bret Johnson


Yuo can reply mail if need be..

--  
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From: GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coh 4.0.1 problems. Help?
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:59:25 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Detlef. writes:
> - The delete-key has no autorepeat.

Edit the /conf/kbd/us.c file, go to the K_76 entry, and change the last
field from F|M to F|T. Also, grab scan.code.Z from either mwcbbs or
raven.alaska.edu for a complete listing of the keyboard scan codes as
used by Coherent.

	-- Greg
From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: advantages to 32 bit binaries?
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:34:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.coherent
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <scott_silverstein-090992100758@lasagne.med.yale.edu>, scott_silverstein@yccatsmtp.ycc.yale.edu (Scot Silverstein MD) writes:
> I recently recompiled some 16-bit binaries (such as the older,
> leaner version of ckermit, to replace the big fat current beta
> version on my distrib. disks) into 32 bit binaries.

Why would you do this?  Perhaps it is bigger and fatter because
there are more features and more code was needed to fix bugs?
There is one particularly annoying bug in older versions of
ckermit that causes batch transfers using a wildcard to switch
back to one window after the first file is transferred.  That
translates into a big performance hit on multiple file transfers.

Cheers,

Chris
From: adye@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Alan Dye)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:24:05 GMT
Subject: Coherent Review in PC Week
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID