HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: colette@bwdls46.bnr.ca (Colette George)
Subject: Re: 401 and Interstate contrasts
Reply-To: colette@bwdls46.bnr.ca (Colette George)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research 
Distribution: can
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:23:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.201525.21452@watson.ibm.com>, crispin@watson.ibm.com (Crispin Cowan) writes:
|> 
|> Sorry, the US is not that consistent.  It's like that in the west, but
|> in the east it is quite common for a highway, even an interstate (which
|> is probably an old road that was re-labeled to get federal money) to
|> have really short, dangerous, crappy on and off ramps, that can
|> frequently be on the left.  In fact, most Canadians have a very negative
|> impression of US roads because a large fraction of Canadians live
|> adjacent to NY or Michigan, which both have particularly bad roads.  I
|> used to think that the US had universally bad roads until I started
|> driving a lot outside of these states.
|> 
Don't speak for "most Canadians".  My fiance and I travel a lot in the
U.S. and we find the roads to be (mostly) in the good-to-excellent range.
I agree it's not consistent, but in general, the roads are much better 
maintained than those in Canada (central/eastern Canada in particular).

And in cases where there is a problem (holes, bumps, etc), you usually
get a sign to warn you *well ahead* of time.  Here in Ottawa, they dig
big holes in the ground, scrape the pavement off the roads, and leave
them for weeks without so much as a sign to tell you about it.  I used
to live on a busy street where they dug a 2-foot by 3-foot hole in the middle
of the street and left it that way for a *month* (no lie!)  It was really
annoying.  I doubt you'd see something like that in a U.S. city.

-- 
===================================================================
Colette George 			
Bell-Northern Research Ltd. 	Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Internet:  colette@bnr.ca 
===================================================================
Xref: sparky ont.general:1519 can.general:3938 soc.culture.canada:5682 ott.general:780
From: rstory@eci386.uucp (Robert Story)
Newsgroups: ont.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
Subject: Re: sidebar re 401
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:16:40 GMT
Distribution: can
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc.

In article <1992Aug10.163411.13659@sni.ca> dave@silver.sni.ca (Dave Till) writes:
|In article <1992Aug7.164304.21478@eci386.uucp> rstory@eci386.uucp (Robert Story) writes:
|>I have just returned from 2 years in Europe (primarily the UK and
|>France) and I am appalled at Canadian (or is it Ontario) drivers!
|>Rarely when I let someone in do I get an acknowledgment or a thank
|>you.
|
|I agree with you on Ontario drivers' lack of courtesy, but I'm wondering:
|what is the European signal for "thank you"?  The only one I know is sticking
|your hand out the window and waving; if the window is rolled up (as is
|usual in winter, or in summer with cars with air-conditioning), then you
|can't wave without rolling down the window.   This is dangerous in fast-moving
|tightly-packed traffic (and impossible in my car in winter :-( ).

Most of the situations I referred to have been at slow/no speed
and a simple wave even from inside the vehicle would be very
nice, thank you!  I wonder if politeness could be written into
the constitution?  It certainly doesn't sound like it's too
late to add *new* items! :-)

|>Where I lived in Cannes, it was
|>common for French drivers to just stop in the inside lane and dash
|>into a shop to pick something up.  Now this caused traffic behind
|>the *parked* vehicle to back up but the drivers in the left lane
|>were extremely good about letting the blocked traffic into their
|>lane.  Drivers here certainly do NOT do that!
|
|This reminds me of *my* pet peeve:  drivers who don't let buses out of
|the bus bays and back into traffic.  Generally, the bus has to wait until
|the light changes and/or the traffic clears to get back into the right-hand
|lane.  This nearly doubles the commute time.

Maybe the busses could have someone riding "shotgun" ... she
could shoot out the car's front/rear lights if the driver didn't
let the bus go first!  Well, just an idea, mind you.

|>But (sigh) I guess that there's not much we can do to change habits
|>here as I believe it's probably cultural.
|
|Sometimes, I find it difficult to let someone into my lane, as there
|is someone behind *me* who is following too closely (my *other* pet peeve).

YES, isn't that annoying!!! I, er, promise not to do it again! :-)

                        -Robert.
						
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 Tel: +1 416 595 5425                         481 University Av. Suite 602
 Fax: +1 416 595 5439                     Toronto, Ontario; CANADA M5G 2E9
Newsgroups: ont.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin)
Subject: Re: sidebar re 401
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX System (416-249-5366) 24hrs.
Distribution: can
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:56:13 GMT

In article <KIM.92Aug12085937@kim.Software.Mitel.COM> kim@Software.Mitel.COM (Kim Letkeman) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.123154.3261@eci386.uucp> rstory@eci386.uucp (Robert Story) writes:
>
>| BTW, in the US multi-lane, limited access highways are called
>| freeways, in Britain motorways, in France Autoroutes, in Germany
>| Autobahns ... what do Canadians call 'em?
>
>Limited access highways, of course. The only one I've ever seen cuts
>Nova Scotia in half. Where are the others?

	Quebec, New Brunswick is building one (or extending the existing
one), parts of Ontario (401 comes to mind), etc...

Marc
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Newsgroups: ont.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
From: mennie@bcrki39.bnr.ca (Bill Mennie 3-4473)
Subject: Re: sidebar re 401
Reply-To: mennie@bcrki39.bnr.ca (Bill Mennie 3-4473)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:52:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.012013.2494@dgbt.doc.ca>, ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted
Grusec) writes:
> In article <1992Aug11.231247.3976@bmerh85.bnr.ca> jnetto@bnr.ca (John
Netto) writes:
> >
> > Where did most OTTAWANS learn to drive anyway ?? 
> > ANSWER: possibly in the UK where they keep to the left.
> > 
> The problem in not where they learned to drive, but rather that laws
> are not enforced in Ottawa as rigorously as, e.g. in Toronto. So
> drivers get sloppy.  My first week in Ottawa after many many years of
> driving in Toronto, I came close to having several crashes.  I had to
> learn, for example, that in Ottawa, the onset of a green light does
> not mean "go", it means, count to 10 to give time for the drivers in
> the orthogonal road to finish going through the (now) red light. And
> yellow, going through which in Toronto yields an instant large fine
> (there are cops in every block), means, in Ottawa, accelerate rapidly
> so that the 60 cars behind you can get through while the drivers in
> the crossing road wait, counting to 10.
> -- 
> ==========================================================================
> Ted Grusec    Communications Research Centre    (Govt. of Canada, DOC)
>  

To make matters worse, every intersection in this area has its own
"personality".  They have flashing green lights before the normal green
(i.e., advanced green), after the light turns red (what is this
called?), turn arrows both before or after the green, misaligned lanes
so you can't see what is going on, lanes that end in the intersection
without warning, traffic sensors that seem to wait until there is no one
around and then force you to wait for two minutes, and so on.

Those who strike up an acquaintance with a particular intersection
become EXTREMELY impatient with those who just met (really helpful in
the nation's capital with thousands of tourists).  Perhaps this is
appropriate for the capital of a country which can't seem to figure out
where its going and seems to believe that something great can come from
emphasizing our differences rather than those wonderful things we share
in common. ;-)


Cheers,

Bill

William E. Mennie        | Phone:    (613) 763-4473 | BNR is in no way
Bell-Northern Research   | Internet: mennie@bnr.ca  | responsible for the
P.O. Box 3511, Station C |                          | preceding ideas or
Ottawa, Ont. K1Y 4H7     |                          | opinions
Newsgroups: ont.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: Risks and Bicycle Helmets
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:34:27 GMT

cal@ee.ryerson.ca (Calvin Henry-Cotnam) writes:

>In article <1992Aug18.114340.2564@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>>
>>Your freedom to not wear a helmet stops when it will infringe on my freedom
>>to ride.
>>

>I like to take this to one level more simpler:

>You are free to do ANYTHING you like provided it does not infringe on
>anyone else.

Of course!  That's the principle I was basing the quoted text above on.

>You either wear a helmet or carry a permit that allows you to go
>helmetless.  The permit costs $50 per year (or whatever is deemed
>proper given the odds of frequency and severity of injuries).  The

I like it.  It should also state that you absolve any other party of blame
in the event that you get smucked, and end up dead or a burden on society,
and you won't sue the NCC for not removing that rock on trail #5.

I can already see the requirement for releases and disclaimers in many
'dangerous' sports - I have to sign one every time I go orienteering, and I
believe that some places make you sign them when you apply for interior
camping permits.

I have a friend who is a lawyer who claims that signing a waiver/release
isn't really legally binding, but it does help to prove that you were made
aware of the risks.  I'd like to see some legally binding ways that someone
can sign away thier right to sue when taking part in a 'risk' sport.

It would sure be nice if, instead of putting up no-trespassing signs,
you could put up a sign that said something like "passing this point
means that you take responsibility for anything that happens to you on
this property."  I believe the fairly recent trespassing law in Ontario
has that provision.  Before, if somebody trespassed, and broke thier
leg, they could sue you for damages.

-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com or {uunet,revcan}!geovision!pt
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone
  -- Henry David Thoreau.
From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: ont.singles
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 01:03:26 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Canadian women, having a problem finding a Canadian man?  I am about 
to launch a free electronic matching service on Usenet.  Thanks to 
the imbalance of men to women on Usenet, more guys than gals have 
expressed an interest so far.  If you would like to see the fifth 
draft of my questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's 
needs as well as men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I 
posted in alt.personals.  
 
This service is serious and I already have 291 men and 162 women 
signed up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected 
and programming has begun.  
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make 
sure that matches are compatible culturally.  
 
                                                          Eric Klien
Newsgroups: ont.events,uw.talks,uw.cs.grad
From: wlrush@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (wlrush)
Subject: COMPUTER GRAPHICS SEMINAR
Keywords: L. Shenquan, Chairman, CAD Lab., Inst. Comp. Tech., Academia Sinica, Beijing, P.R. China
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: ont
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:18:39 GMT


DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTER SCIENCE
UNIVERSITY OF WATERLOO
SEMINAR ACTIVITIES

COMPUTER GRAPHICS SEMINAR

                    -Tuesday, August 25, 1992 *NOTE DAY*

Liu  Shenquan,  Chairman, CAD Laboratory, Institute for
Computing  Tech., Academia Sinica, Beijing, P.R. China,
will  speak  on  "Computer  Graphics  Research  in  CAD
Laboratory".

TIME:                 1:30-2:30 p.m.

ROOM:                 DC 1304

ABSTRACT

The  talk is aimed at introducing research in the field
of  computer  graphics  in the CAD Laboratory.  The CAD
Laboratory was founded in 1987. It was derived from the
CAD  division of the Institute of Computing Technology,
Chinese  Academy of Sciences, which started research on
CAD  in  the late sixties.  The organization of the CAD
Lab,  and  its main areas of research will be outlined.
As  computer  graphics  is so important in CAD, the CAD
Laboratory   emphasizes   to  its  research,  and  many
projects  in  the Lab are related to computer graphics.
This  talk  concentrates on the following topics, which
are some projects being carried out in our laboratory.

1.  Solid modeling system.

2.  Curves/surfaces modeling system.

3.  CAD graphics support system.

4.  Data field visualization system.

5.  A 3D simulation system for imperial gardens in Ming
    and Qing Dynasty.

6.  Enamels ceramics constructive design system.

Some   slides  illustrating  computer  results  of  the
project  will  be shown.  The CAD Laboratory pays great
attention   to  the  academic  exchange  and  technical
cooperation  with  other  domestic and foreign research
organization and scientists.
Xref: sparky ont.events:401 ont.general:1666 mi.misc:536 mi.news:125 soc.culture.canada:6013 soc.culture.usa:6779 alt.activism:15281 sci.econ:7052 talk.politics.misc:41286
From: roussea@server.uwindsor.ca (ROUSSEAU PAUL            )
Newsgroups: ont.events,ont.general,mi.misc,mi.news,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa,alt.activism,sci.econ,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Detroit-Windsor Area Salon(Discussion Group)
Date: 22 Aug 1992 18:57:56 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada




Detroit-Windsor Area Salon
 
We meet monthly, usually on the 2nd or third Wednesday of the
month from 6:30 - 9:30 for Pizza and Serious Discussion.
 
Our discussion group has met for the past year reading works
like Vaslav Havel's "Letter to Husak" and comparing the conditions
that led to the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslavakia and other Eastern
European countries with the economic crisis in the U.S. and Canada
 
We have been discussing what makes up the WEALTH of NATIONS and
the importance of understanding this to determine government
policy.  We have begun to read Adam Smith's book "The Wealth
of Nations" to evaluate the broad view society that it presents.
Also, we have been discussing the significance of the development
of  telecommunications and world wide computer connectivity via
usenet news, the internet, etc. Some of the papers that have been  
presented include topics like "The Real Voice of Adam Smith,""The
Computer as Democratizer,"'Arte', Technology, and Usenet News: 
The Importance to Society of the Development of Technology.S
 
The group is open to new members.
 
For more information contact :
Ronda Hauben  (313)278-0246 or au329@cleveland.freenet.edu
orr
Paul Rousseau (519) 735-7959 or roussea@ucc.uwindsor.ca
Newsgroups: ont.events,uw.talks,uw.cs.grad
From: wlrush@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (wlrush)
Subject: MASTER'S THESIS PRESENTATION
Keywords: Steve Green, grad student, Dept. Comp. Sci., Univ. Waterloo
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: ont
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:06:56 GMT


DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTER SCIENCE
UNIVERSITY OF WATERLOO
SEMINAR ACTIVITIES

MASTER'S THESIS PRESENTATION

                    -Friday, August 28, 1992

Steve   Green,  graduate  student,  Dept.  Comp.  Sci.,
University  of  Waterloo  will  speak  on "A functional
theory of style for natural language generation."

TIME:                 1:30-2:30 p.m.

ROOM:                 DC 1331

ABSTRACT

Style in language is more than just surface appearance.
On the contrary, it is an essential part of the meaning
conveyed by the writer.  Many computational linguistics
applications,   such   as   machine   translation   and
computer-aided   second   language  instruction,  would
benefit  from  an  understanding  of  such  nuances  of
language.   A computational theory of style could be of
great  use in these applications, providing a mechanism
for  dealing with the subtle but significant aspects of
language.

DiMarco  (1990)  presented  a  computational  theory of
style  that was used to construct a syntactic stylistic
grammar  at  three levels: primitive elements, abstract
elements,  and  stylistic  goals.  At the base level of
the   grammar,  the  primitive  elements  describe  the
stylistic  effects  of  individual sentence components.
These  primitive  elements are then combined at a level
of more abstract descriptions.  These abstract elements
comprise  a  stylistic  `metalanguage' that allows each
element   to   be  used  to  characterize  a  group  of
stylistically  similar sentences.  At the top level are
the  stylistic  goals, such as clarity or concreteness,
that are realized by patterns of the abstract elements.

The  theory,  however,  was built largely on heuristics
and  intuition  and  it was also plagued by too-general
abstract elements.  I solve the first problem by giving
the  primitive  elements  a  sound basis in established
linguistic  theory,  specifically,  systemic functional
linguistics.   Classical  rhetorical  theory is used to
refine the definitions of the abstract elements, making
them more expressive.

The  revised  theory  is  incorporated  into the Penman
generation   system   at  all  levels.   The  low-level
incorporation  of  the theory includes making additions
and modifications to Nigel (Penman's grammar) and tying
Nigel  to  a  high-level  stylistic control module.  We
show  how this high-level control module can be used to
make  decisions  between output structures on the basis
of stylistic criteria and how a combination of top-down
and  opportunistic  planning  can  be  used to generate
sentences that must satisfy specific stylistic goals.
Newsgroups: ont.events,ut.dcs.seminars,ut.dcs.dbois
From: edith@cs.toronto.edu (Edith Fraser)
Subject: Zhou Lizhu, 2 September 1992: DATABASE
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:01:09 GMT


           Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
              (GB = Galbraith Building, 35 St. George Street)

       -------------------------------------------------------------

                                 DATABASE
                  GB248, at 11:00 a.m., 2 September 1992

                                Zhou Lizhu
                      Tsinghua University, P.R. China

                  "CIMBASE - An Effort To Solve The Data
             Sharing Problem In A Multi-Database Environment"

CIMBASE is a distributed database project aimed at solving the data sharing
problem for Computer Integrated Manufacturing Systems.  Using an Object-
Oriented and Semantic Association data model, CIMBASE provides both query
and C language interfaces.  It allows the underlying databases to be of
different types.

Newsgroups: ont.events,uw.talks,uw.cs.grad
From: wlrush@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (wlrush)
Subject: DATABASE SEMINAR
Keywords: Y. Kornatzky, Ben-Gurion Univ. of Negev, Israel
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: ont
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:35:36 GMT


DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTER SCIENCE
UNIVERSITY OF WATERLOO
SEMINAR ACTIVITIES

DATABASE SEMINAR

                    -Wednesday, September 2, 1992

Yoram  Kornatzky,  Ben-Gurion  University of the Negev,
Beer-Sheva,  Israel, will speak on ``An Extensible Data
Model for Hyper-Documents''.

TIME:                 1:30-2:30 p.m.

ROOM:                 DC 1302

ABSTRACT

We   present   an  extensible  data  model  for  hyper-
documents.  It  is  intended  to serve as the basis for
integrating  hypermedia  systems with other information
sources,  such  as  object-oriented database management
systems, information retrieval systems, and engineering
CAD  tools. Hyper-documents are described by means of a
small  number  of  powerful  constructs  that integrate
their  structural and behavioral aspects. The different
instantiations  and  combinations  of  these constructs
yield   an   open   class  of  hyper-documents.  Nodes,
anchors,  and  links  are all considered as first-class
objects  and  modeling constructs are applicable to all
of  them.  These  constructs permit a description of an
object  within  a hyper-document on multiple levels and
the  packaging of together of the different views of an
object.  Composite   objects  range  over an extensible
collection  of  structures  including  networks,  sets,
timelines,  and  three-dimensional  space  CAD  models.
Virtuality  is  regarded  as an orthogonal dimension of
the  model  that  allows  a  virtual  object to be used
everywhere  a  stored one can appear. To facilitate the
definition   of   virtual   structures  we  provide   a
declarative  FP-like   language  for virtual structures
that is founded on the model. The behavioral aspects of
a  hyper-document are defined using a general construct
for  tailoring  the  browsing  semantics to the kind of
composite  structures that are used. The structural and
behavioral  aspects  of  the  model  can be implemented
using  database  programming languages, thereby leading
to a programming environment supporting the integration
of information
 sources through the hypermedia system.

Joint  work  with  Paul  De  Bra  and Geert-Jan Houben,
Eindhoven U. of Technology.
Newsgroups: ont.test
From: carrollj@wm-mercer.ca (Jim Carroll)
Subject: Re: blah
Organization: William M. Mercer Limited, Toronto, Ontario
Distribution: ont
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 14:46:56 GMT

In article <BsJnA9.5u0@me.utoronto.ca> news@me.utoronto.ca (News Reader) writes:
>belch
>

Feel better?	;-)
-- 
Jim Carroll - carrollj@wm-mercer.ca
-{ Standard Disclaimer in effect .... }-
"Ich weiss nicht, was soll das mir bedeuten."
Newsgroups: ont.test,misc.test
From: mtompset@Sandelman.OCUnix.on.ca (Mark Tompsett)
Subject: Cross-posting test
Summary: My first cross-post.
Organization: Sandelman Software Works, Debugging Department, Ottawa, ON
Distribution: ont
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:15:36 GMT

Once upon a time, there was a user who got some negative feedback, because
he didn't know how to cross post. He decided to try. He felt so foolish
never having done it before, but now he feels just fine. Because like all
his great predecessors, he has CROSS-POSTED. This story was brought to
you by the letters: A and Q and the number 11. This was a test, and a most
fanciful one at that too!
Newsgroups: ont.test
From: carrollj@wm-mercer.ca (Jim Carroll)
Subject: silliness test
Organization: William M. Mercer Limited, Toronto, Ontario
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:54:07 GMT

This test is only slightly silly.  RSVP.
-- 
Jim Carroll - carrollj@wm-mercer.ca
-{ Standard Disclaimer in effect .... }-
"Ich weiss nicht, was soll das mir bedeuten."
From: pacolley@ember.UUCP (Paul Colley)
Newsgroups: ont.test
Subject: test
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:25:12 GMT
Reply-To: pacolley@ember.UUCP (Paul Colley)
Distribution: ont
Organization: Ember---private system


- Paul Colley
University:  colley@qucis.queensu.ca
Home:        pacolley@ember.uucp   watmath!ember!pacolley  +1 613 545 3807
"Quantum Mechanics:  The dreams stuff is made of"    - Ken Burnside

Newsgroups: ont.test,zooid.test
From: Ross Ridge <ross@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: test
X-To: ALL
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:24:00 GMT

test2.

                        Ross Ridge
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