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From: jeff@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Jeff White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 1.4 Meg drive for Mac II
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:28:04 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, College of Engineering, Philadelphia, PA

In article <1993Jan25.000653.1724@udel.edu> bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Ty Bower) writes:
>
>>You may also want to try the AE Plus Drive. It plugs into the external drive 
>>port of the Mac. It will read Mac 800K and 1.4meg and IBM 720K and 1.4meg. 
>>Everything needed is built into the drive. It only costs about $300 by mail 
>>order.
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>Now you are saying, but I have a Mac II, I don't have an external drive port.
>>True, and Applied Engineering knows this too, that's why they will sell you a 
>>cable that plugs into the interal drive port on the Mac II's.
>
>
>You say they offer a cable for Mac II's.  Do they offer a fully internal
>version of this drive?  Can you remove the innards from an AE Plus
>and install it internally yourself?  And how do they get around the
>ROM/SWIM limitation for Mac II's?

  I also looked into the AE drive for myself (a Mac Plus) and for a client
(with a Mac II).  You can't mount the drive internally because it has a front
mounted eject switch.  As far as the SWIM limitations, I'm not sure but I
would guess they have some extra circuitry inside the drive that handles the
conversion.  I don't know if the Mac would be able to exactly identify the 
drive type (ie. would DiskCopy detect it as an actual HD disk, or just a DD
one of capacity 1.4M?).

>
>It sounds neat, but I am distrustful.  For $300 + $45 (for the cable), 
>it's $100 less than the real thing.  But, if I cough up the $450 for 
>the Apple version, I also get free installation, it takes up no more
>desk space, and I've now got the IIx ROMs (which removes some SIMM
>configuration limitations.)
> 

  I've seem the AE drive advertised in the back of Mac magazines for as low
as $275, and the cable for more like $19-$25, not $45, so, with some sharp
shopping, you could pick up a solution for $300.  I contemplated that for
my client, but in the end decided the get the Apple FDHD/ROM upgrade because
it would eliminate the 8M ram limit.  As it turns out, I was able to get it
off the GSA schedule for less than $350.  Assuming I don't have problems 
installing it, I think it was by far the best choice.

  For my personal use (Mac Plus), I'm continuing to look into the 21M 
flopticals.  I have seen one (w/ disk & FWT formatting software) for $299.
For about the same price as the AE 1.4M drive, I would still get the ability
to read/write Mac 1.4M disks (and DOS 720k/1.4M disks), as well as being able
to write ~20M to a floptical.  While the media costs make it a semi-expensive
backup solution (in $/MB terms), there are not many competative backup
options if you're not backing up tons of data.

						Jeff White
						jeff@cbis.ece.drexel.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Eric.G.Sack.1@nd.edu (Eric G. Sack)
Subject: Quadra 800, How may internal bays?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: CEGS, University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:57:43 GMT

Well, everyone I've talked to claims that the Q800 will be
in a "mini-tower" style case. The Q950 will accept 4 internal
5-1/4" drives (with the floppy occupying one which leaves
three free), but how many will be available in the Q800?
Basically this is a question of what was removed (or
miniturized) from a Q950 to make it fit into a mini-tower?
Reducing the number of slots is obvious, but what else?

Has anyone heard anything?

Thanks,
Eric
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From: kvj@triple-i.com (Karl vonJena)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: external HD case
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:01:20 GMT
Reply-To: kvj@triple-i.com
Organization: Information International, Inc.


Hi,
I replaced my old 40 MB drive with an 80 and now the 80 is also full. I'd like to hook up the 40 MB drive again in an external case (or is there a way to put it inside?). Does anyone know of a good source for the cases and how much they cost?

thanks
karl
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From: kwun@css.itd.umich.edu (Michael Kwun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Street Fighter
Date: 24 Jan 1993 20:32:04 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Consulting and Support
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REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU wrote:
:    Not very many DOS games use the low-res mode.  Virtually all of them run
: in standard VGA (640 x 480 x 256 colors).  Many of the better ones run to

what do you mean by "standard"?  640 x 480 x 256 is a mode that most VGA
cards run, but it is *not* standard--the only mode that is VGA standard in
color at 640 x 480 is 16 color.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wondertr@fraser.sfu.ca (wondertree learning center)
Subject: Video Cards
Summary: Video Cards
Keywords: Video Cards
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:17:03 GMT

I am considering adding a 16" monitor to my IIvx and would also like to
be able to capture video into QuickTime... 

Does anyone have experience with an economical video card that can do 
both of these functions well?????

I only would like to hear from people who have actually bought the card
they're recommending....

Thanks

TED
From: gnelson@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gregory J. Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LCIII vs Daystar upgrade
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:48:41 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Anyone have any information/speculation on how an LCIII will compare
speedwise with a 33, 40, or 50 MHz Daystar Powercache in a stock LC?
Granted the Daystar has a faster processor and cache, but will that
make up for the 16 bit data bus bottleneck?  Does the LCIII come w/
FPU?  If no, does it have a slot for one?  Will the LCIII have any
differences in the onboard video?  Thanks for any info...

gnelson@gandalf.rutgers.edu
From: jacobs@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Plus upgrade?
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:24:51 PST
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

	 I recently aquired a macPlus, and am wondering what upgrade options
are available for it? Is there room for an internal hard drive? What is the max
memory possible? 

	Also, I need to get the keyboard cable for it and found out the
connectors are not the standard rj-11 phone plugs. Does anyone out there know
exactly what the designation of these plugs are?

Thanks for the info,

Karl
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				      and Raider fan, how ironic!!! :)
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From: tjhendry@queen.mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Power PC/68060/Taligent/Windows NT
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:34:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.
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ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
: In <1993Jan21.142005.19516@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> tjhendry@queen.mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) writes:
: 
: True, but there's still the compatability issue.  You can have the best OS
: in the world, but if there are only a few programs available, it's not
: going to sell well.  I was considering getting a NeXT, but chose a Mac
: since there were more hardware options, and the NeXT lacked some software
: that I needed.
: -- 

True, there isn't *that* much software, yet. Hardware's getting better.
NeXT's now have an adb keyboard bus, so they can use most Macintosh adb 
peripherals (as long as they don't require a software driver).

Of course, if you're *writing* software, it's a very, very nice platform.
And the software is coming out. Hell, there are already four renderman programs
announced, if not more (two shipping, maybe three). There are a gaggle of 
spreadsheets on the way, with at least one shipping other than Improv now.
for desktop publishing there's Framemaker, PasteUp, Pages (on the way) and I
believe more. There's a few Photoshop-like apps. There's Adobe Illustrator and
Altsys Virtuoso (i.e. Freehand).

And best of all, most commercial NeXT apps have demo versions on the ftp sites.
How many Mac commercial apps have free demos available on sumex? (Actually,
I'm curious: are there any? I haven't looked)

I think this year will be a big year for NeXT software. NS486 will increase
the installed base substantially, providing a greater stimulus for development.


--
Jonathan W. Hendry
Drexel University College Of Information Studies
Anderson Financial Systems "Programmer-in-Exile" :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tuc@calico.cs.wisc.edu (Brian A. Cole)
Subject: Re: Quadra 800 rumor(!)
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:22:29 GMT

Peter Creath [peterc@cubetech.com] writes:
] I heard (from an anonymous source) that the Quadra 800 benchmarks
] Apple has been showing developers ran are BETTER(!!!) than those
] of the 950!
] 
] Any comments, verifications, etc.?

A MacWeek article that I read a while ago said that this would be the case.

brian
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From: genzuk@mizar.usc.edu (Michael Genzuk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB Newsgroup
Date: 24 Jan 1993 20:40:58 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

I have read numberous articles on the pros and cons of a Mac PB Newsgroup
for a long time.  I have consistently read the Laptop Newsgroup and seen
the overwhelming number of articles dealing with PC notebooks.  And I have
no problem with that.  But we deserve our own home as well.  When I have 
posted questions about my PB 180 in that group, or in the mac.hardware 
group as well it seems to get overshadowed by other issues.  I think it
is time to deal exclusively with the Powerbook audience.  Especially with
the expansion of the Powerbook family.

One vote for a new newsgroup

Michael at USC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.hp,comp.terminals
From: hm@opus40.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Info Needed: Graphics Ports amnd standards
Keywords: graphics connectors
Organization: iX-Redaktion
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:33:51 GMT


Maybe it's a FAQ ... I apologize. But I don't subscribe
to this newsgroup regularly, so I don't know. 

I urgently need some pointers (or even better
information) about port layout on graphic cards of
workstations and X-terminals. The aim is to issue a
technical market view of such stuff. Some manufacturers
have answered my questions freely, such as Sun, IBM,
Tektronix and others. HP, DEC and SGI did not, and I
would rather avoid printing an article without their
data (which I would have to do blaming those who didn't
answer). 

Following data is required:

- type of connector and pin layout at the graphic card
  side of the cable
- wave impedance of cabling and signal sources (mostly
  75 Ohms).
- peak signal voltage
- polarity of sync pulses horizontally and vertically
- available resolutions and picture refresh rates

I'd well appreciate every piece of the mosaic since I
have really gotten hot at the moment some of the
manufacturers haven't answered :-)

Please mail directly. Thanks.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: omh@cs.brown.edu (Owen M. Hartnett)
Subject: Re: LARRY PINA'S "Macintosh Repair and Upgrade Secrets"
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:32:33 GMT

In article <1jnmrlINN9ut@sol.deakin.OZ.AU> cris@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Christopher Welsh) writes:
>Is there a LARRY PINA'S "Macintosh Repair and Upgrade Secrets" 2nd edition
>available? I heard there was such a book. If so, can you tell me the differences
>between the first edition and Second.
>
>Reason I ask is, that the First Edition is only available in Australia.
>

Larry's Book of the above title has had only one edition, but 4 printings
(and Larry says that Sams says they didn't sell any...).  This book covers
the 128K, 512K, Plus, and SE, with emphasis on the Plus.  His other
books cover newer machines, although "Dead Mac Scrolls" has information
in addition to, but not replace "Repair and Upgrade Secrets."

-Owen


Owen Hartnett				omh@cs.brown.edu
"FAITH, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks
		without knowledge, of things without parallel."
			-Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary
From: mirsky@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Joshua Mirsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Stylewriter I and envelopes
Date: 25 Jan 1993 01:16:29 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.ai.mit.edu

Hi. I have had some difficulty printing envelopes on my Stylewriter I.
Firstly, it always seems to feed the envelope all the way through
without printing anything on it when I try to print an envelope. I then
have to reinsert the envelope, and most of the time it works.  But I
am wondering why it feeds it through the first time. I am sure I have
selected envelope in Page Setup. It acts kind of like a larger paper
size was selected.
 
I have also found it frustrating trying to print smaller envelopes:
6.125 X 4.5
 
I was using Quarkxpress~r, because I like the interface, but the Page
Setup does not allow me to print a envelope of that size.
 
I'm sure I could fiddle with the margins so that an en elope could
probably print out o with the stylewriter, but those margins in actuality
would bewarped.  That is, I want the stylewriter to print an envelope with
correct margins etc. without having to exaggerate the placement of
everything to accomodate the stylewriter.  I will do this if it is necessary
but I'm wondering if it is.
 
Thanks
David
mirsky@gnu.ai.mit.edu
From: HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New APS Quantum 240 disk goes into seek mode
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:41:21 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1993Jan23.111641.18714@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>,
j_macgown@csc32.enet.dec.com writes:
>        I have a new APS Quantum LPS240 external disk that every 30-60 seconds goes
>into seek mode for about 2-3 seconds. It does this even when the disk isn't plug
>into the Mac. If I just have the power applied to the drive and at least one scsi
>cable or terminator connected it does this.
>
>        I called APS and the first guy I got said that it wasn't normal and had me
>check some jumpers on the drive. The second guy I called said that it was normal
>for the disk to do this when it is idle to fix a 'sticktion' problem. When it
>does
>this the drive access light doesn't come on.
>
>        Is this realy normal???
Yup, it's really normal. I dunno about the sticktion fear but
Quantum does have a history of stick drives. I'll seen the
phenomenon on internal Mac Quantums, external Mac Quantums and
internal Dell Quantums, all, I believe, in the LPS series.

Mark Rogowsky
From: peterc@cubetech.com (Peter Creath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Quadra 800 rumor(!)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 16:51:04 CDT
Organization: Cube Technologies
Reply-To: peterc@cubetech.com
Distribution: world

I heard (from an anonymous source) that the Quadra 800 benchmarks
Apple has been showing developers ran are BETTER(!!!) than those
of the 950!

Any comments, verifications, etc.?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: zisk@adobe.com (Stephen Zisk)
Subject: Re: Motorola's 68060 for the Mac
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:30:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.054617.25775@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au>,
quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au (Quinn) wrote:
> The Lisa had an 68000 and implemented virtual memory but only for 
> code segments.  Therefore I assume you can always manage to restart
> instruction fetches on the 68000.  I guess that putting data in
> code segments was frowned upon (and didn't work).

No, you cannot restart from failed instruction fetches. This is a
common cause of bus errors. The real problem with the 68000, which was
fixed by the 68010, is that some internal register state is not saved
to the stack on a bus error. This means you can not recover if some
calculation was ongoing when the bus error occured.

What you can do is a slimy bit of probing by making the segment calls
include code surrounded by a bunch of no-ops, so that there are no
ongoing calculations. You can even write a compiler to do this on long
pointer references, so that the system code recovering from a bus fault
can page in the right stuff, satisfiy the hardware translators in the
MMU (after all, you don't have to use a 68851 as MMU, you can roll your
own), and start again at the right spot.

The even uglier trick we used for our "high-performance" machines at a
previous company was to have primary/secondary 68Ks, where the WAIT
signal on the primary 68K becomes asserted on bus error, the secondary
68K goes off and satisfies the fault, and then WAIT is unasserted on
the primary 68K and it continues on its way, not even knowing a bus
error occured. This was an expensive solution when 68Ks were $200 a pop,
but would be very cheap these days at < $5.

Stephen Zisk (zisk@adobe.com)  Disclaimer: These are my personal views
Adobe Systems Incorporated     and do not represent the position of
Eastern Regional Office        Adobe Systems Incorporated.
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From: pino@gammow.berkeley.edu (Jose L. Pino)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Anyone seen a dealer selling DUO MiniDocks?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:49:32 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: gammow.berkeley.edu

From what I understand the Apple Duo MiniDocks have not received FCC
approval yet.  They first went and got FCC approval for the Duo Dock,
so you should see those first.

About the E-Machines MiniDocks, I only inquired about the DeskNet.
I was told the 10BaseT version of the DeskNet will be shipping
in early February and th 10Base2 version will be shipping at the
end of February.

Jose
pino@ohm.Berkeley.EDU

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: How to adjust Clock Speed w/ PB 145?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:24:12 GMT



Everyone tells me my PB 145 should have a control panel 
to go from 25 to 16 mz, but I can't fing it. What's 
it called? Is it somewhere on the Sys. disks? (I've got
7.01).

thanks

Brooks
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PowerBook 100 jeweled bearings search - REWARD!
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:14:41 PDT
Organization: TidBITS
Reply-To: ace@tidbits.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2

(Posted for Rick Wolfson, author of The PowerBook Companion)

The PowerBook guys at Apple say that Duo-like jeweled trackball
bearings are in the latest 100's. I ordered a  replacement unit
to see what comes in. Let's do this.

Does anyone out there have little jeweled bearings on the
support posts of their 100 trackball. If you do, what is the
first five numbers and letters in the serial number of your
unit, so we can get an idea when they began to be fitted into
units. This will be especially helpful from our European
friends that may still be getting new 100's.

I'll even post a reward. One free PowerBook Companion to the
PowerBook 100 owner with the newest machine. Send responses to:

     Wolfson@Apollo.Montclair.Edu

Rich Wolfson
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From: IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jon Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.mac
Subject: Apple ImageWriter LQ
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:30:22 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Apple's only widebar (160 column) printer.  260 dpi res.
Like new (<750  pages printed).  I have a LaserWiter
and I find I just don't use the printer to print widebar stuff.

This printer is _very_ fast at low res. text printing.  Not too
bad ant hi-res stuff either (its no LaserJet IIIsi, but it gets
the job done).

I would like to get $400 for this great printer.  I will include
a printer stand, dust cover and whatever is left of my 8.5x11
tractor feed paper (sorry, all my green-bar is gone).

Please reply via e-mail.  If your not in the area, we can negoitiate
about shipping.  I'm somewhat flexible.

    -----> Jon                                   Jon Carr
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