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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: SA, Pakistan and West Indies
Organization: Wits University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 19:20:52 RSA

Pakistan and West Indies are scheduled to arrive in South Africa some time
in February to play in a triangular tournament with the finals being
scheduled for the Wanderers.
 
South Africa, I think, will not find these two a walk-over like they
did India. India at no stage pressurised the South Africans
in the field so they always looked extra-ordinarily good. South Africa
showed they are vulnerable in the last (7th) ODI against India.
When the fielders were put slightly under pressure they did begin
to make mistakes. Also, the bottom batting order collapsed although only on
this one occassion. Also, SA proved they can be bogged down by spin
bowling although they are very quick learners. There was alot of talk
about Jonty Rhodes being the best fielder in the World. Not to take
anything away from Rhodes, it remains to be seen how good he really is
when put under real pressure.
 
As for India, they need to muscle up in all departments: fielding, bowling
and especially batting. Also, if they stop having so much of a good time,
that too may help. Some of the team players were spotted having a good
time in the pubs and discos till 4 a.m. in the morning. This I have heard
from many a public source. Currently, I would say they are only better
than Zimbabwe. Even Sri Lanka, NZ would thrash them forget Aussies, WI,
Pakistan and England. Sigh !
 
My 2 cents worth !
 
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Subject: Kapil Dev's damned follies
From: jcsheth@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:45:29 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

Hey netters,

In article <pavenant.23.72343147@dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za>,pavenant@dos-lan.cs.up.ac
.za (Paul Avenant) writes: 

> Maybe a little gamesmanship from ( a possibly frustrated) Dev.

Now, this is really far-fetched to me. How come Kapil Dev - a reknowned 
bowler who has played cricket for 15 long years, and never before accused 
(only by distant assoc.in Gower's book) by any other cricket team for 
showing unsportman like conduct internationally - gets reigned in ?? 
   Now, Kapil Dev has Never Before run out a guy in the run-up. So he 
did what was is only legal in cricket. He had warned this Kirsten in 
another match. An understanding, usually general and vague with many 
qualifications, for each bowler to warn any one batsman of his tolerance 
level. Kapil did warn, and even if not in the match concerned, is it any 
coincidence that Thrice, Kapil's goat was got by one guy alone- Kirsten !!! 
Kirsten knew better than that and if this isn't spirit of game then nothing 
is. I mean this guy - Kirsten - is a balding middle aged gung-ho trying 
to make up for lost reflexes and speed by stealing. Do you know how 
irritating it is to have a moving object in front of sight screen while 
you bowl??? So don't give us r.s.c. vets some b.s. think.
 
In article <1992Dec14.0642.21475@shrike.und.ac.za> goldstei@shrike.und.ac.za
(Hilton Goldstein) writes:

> about to bowl. As for Dev's acting about being hit on the legs
                              ^^^^^^^
Now, this is one dude who needs to play some cricket before oozing 
on the net. Anyone want to get creamed by a bat for acting purposes??
This is ridiculous and nevertheless a reply is required. 
    Kapil-Dev Nikhanj would have left cricket with enough in kitty long 
ago if he knew that he is to be the fall guy. 

Understood: Wessels is something of a sport himself
Forgiven: Wessels' win-at-all-costs over-rate slowdown against spirit
          in the W.C. while no other skipper followed such a line
    Having said this, do you refuse to entertain that it is simply Kapil's 
plain misunderstanding as to Wessels intentions that day. He was already 
sore enough after that what obnoxious Kirsten had done. Out in the middle,
aggresiveness can sometimes lead to anger and thus misunderstanding.

   Now I understand the D.S.A. (read Disenfranchiseds) are reborn babes
of international sport. And r.s.c. is a natural vent for pent-up
national feelings the two dudes above and Mr. Smit might have - but do not 
dehumanize the opposition. I'll argue on D.S.A. in rec.sport.african.
Any takers. I have King of bitnetwaves- makala on my side.
 
-Karthikeyan 
Kapil watch: Kapil to 432 before Border to 10,122
Donald watch: when will he get a duck?
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From: aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain)
Subject: Pak vs WI WSC
Keywords: WI batting
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:48:22 GMT


WI are 46/2 in 15 overs
richardson 12 no and lara 12 no
richardson having hit a 6 in the last over off the bowling
of aquib
source: finger to Ksrao ...

Aamir
From: KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: score Ind/SA
Date: 17 Dec 1992 09:56:11 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



Plan file generated by 'Dougie', the cricket scorer.
For a realtime, full screen (insert more hype here) score update get the
dougie source from ford.ee.up.ac.za via anonymous ftp, the latest version is
pub/dougie-0.0.tar.Z      - Enjoy!

To connect to this host, use
dougie plains.NoDak.edu 1340

          South Africa vs India, 6th D/N, Kingsmead, Durban, 17/12/92
              South Africa                               India
Hudson     c Yadav b Kapil     15 ( 29)  Jadeja                                 

Wessels    c Manjrek b Prabha  78 (120)  Prabhakar                              

Kirsten    c Manjrek b Shastr  44 ( 68)  Manjrekar                              

Rhodes     c Shastri b Kapil   16 ( 25)  Azhar                                  

Callaghan  st Yadav b Kumble    8 ( 12)  Tendulkar                              

Cronje     b Kapil             25 ( 29)  Shastri                                

Richardsn  run out Yadav       12 ( 11)  Kapil                                  

Pringle    run out Yadav        9 (  8)  Sharma                                 

Matthews * not out              1 (  1)  Yadav                                  

Donald   - not out              0 (  0)  Kumble                                 

DVilliers                                Raju                                   

Extras  (W: 0 N: 2 B: 2 LB: 4)  8        Extras  (W: 0 N: 0 B: 0 LB: 0)  0
Total   (Ov: 50.0 RR: 4.32)   216 / 8    Total   (Ov:  0.0 RR: 0.00)     0 / 0 
             O  M  R  Wi Wd Nb                        O  M  R  Wi Wd Nb 
                                        Prabhakar * 10  1  54  1  0  2
                                        Shastri      6  0  36  1  0  0
                                        Kapil     - 10  4  23  3  0  0
                                        Sharma       4  0  18  0  0  0
                                        Kumble      10  1  34  1  0  0
                                        Raju        10  1  45  0  0  0
                          Back after they have munched
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From: aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain)
Subject: Pak vs WI WSC comments
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:46:43 GMT

The world champions(? :-() couldnt repeat their heroic
performance of a couple of days ago against AUstralia.
Congrats to WI for they must have bowled extremely well
in the last 10 overs, crucial ones too. if not then the
pakistani's must have batted terribly in the last 10 overs
after all 40 in 10 overs isnt that tough, a gritty display
by the last wkt pair of musthaq and aquib but it was to
no avail

a dissapointed fan signing off. thanks ksrao for doing
such a great job.

in other cricket news
SL vs NZ ODI
NZ batting first made 197 in 50 overs

source: BBC newsdesk 23:25

Aamir
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From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: re: pakistan are...
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:42:42 EST

To: mamohamm@vela.acs.oakland.edu

Sk> still the World Champs.

Exactly, and everyone can have a few bad days, which in ODIs result in
defeats...  and Pakistan is stronger in Test cricket, especially with
their offensive attack (Waqar, Akram, Mushtaq: the WAM! crew)...

Faraz Rabbani

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From: A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pakistan are missing Imran in ODI's
Date: 18 Dec 92 09:07:48 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

All the chat about Pakistan's (relatively) poor form in ODI's since they won
the world cup has got me thinking (well, it beats working :-)). Imran Khan was
in the Pak side that won the WC but as we all know he has retired after a long
and distinguished career. With Imran in the side Pak had a very good captain,
batsman and most importantly FIFTH BOWLER to go with Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis,
Aqib Javed and Mushtaq Ahmed. These 4 latter bowlers are a very potent bowling
attack and they were probably the main reason why Pakistan beat England in this
summers test series. In ODI's however you need an extra bowler and IMHO this is
where pakistan have been falling down, their fifth bowler is never as good
as Imran. When Pakistan find another top class (about Aqib Javed's ability)
bowler they will start to play like the world 1-day champions that they are
(because the beat England in the WC final :-( ).

Just my 2 pence worth

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From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: English Cricket Team is Ready to Go...
Date: 20 Dec 92 13:29:06 GMT

England Tour is On!

    The Foreign Office, with  assurances  from the authorities in India, 
guaranteed the safety of the England squad on their subcontinental tour
in the New Year, and Graham Gooch's party will leave as scheduled on 28
December.  Alan Smith, the chief executive of the TCCB, was told yester-
day that the original tour itinerary could stand as arranged.

    A wave of sectarian  violence in the past two weeks, which resulted
in the deaths of more than 1,200 people, had placed the England tour of
India and  Sri Lanka in jeopardy.  There were discussions of a possible
alternative for the winter.  But the Indian government has clamped down
since the unrest and the British High Commission in Delhi has given its
vote of confidence.

    If the tour had been cancelled, it would have been the  second back 
to back cancelled  England visit to India after Gooch and several other
squad members were refused visas in 1988 because of their South African
connections.  Gooch said  yesterday: "The  authorities are  clearly not
going to let us go out there if things were not in order - so hopefully
we will be able to concentrate on our cricket."

    There were also doubts over the  Sri Lankan leg of the tour after a
bomb exploded, killing four people, outside Hotel Taj Samudra in Colombo
where  the New Zealand  cricketers were staying.  Five players returned
home but the tour continued.  Sri Lankans  defeated the visitors in the 
limited-over games (2-0, 1 abandoned).  Test matches ended in draw.

    The welcome  green light came as English squad were finishing their
pre-tour training at Lilleshall.  Gooch said:  "The value of these last
six  weeks has also  been that a great team  spirit has been generated,
and that the newer guys, like  Paul Taylor and Richard Blakey, now feel
part of the team. We can now go straight into our practice on the first
few days of the tour with no worries about gelling the side and getting
some players introduced to each other. Our aim, as usual, is to win and
play as attractively as we can."

Tour Schedule:

    ENGLAND IN INDIA AND  SRI LANKA:  
03 Jan v Ranji champions (3 days) Faridabad. 
08 Jan v Indian Board President's XI (3) Kanpur. 
13 Jan v Indian Board President's XI (1) Indore. 
16 Jan First one-day international, Ahmedabad. 
18 Jan Second one-day international, Jaipur. 
21 Jan Third one-day international, Delhi or Chandigarh. 
23 Jan v Indian Under- 25 (3) Cuttack. 
29 Jan FIRST TEST, Calcutta. 
05 Feb v Rest of India XI (3) Vishakhapatnam. 
11 Feb SECOND TEST, Madras. 
19 Feb THIRD TEST, Bombay. 
26 Feb Fourth one-day international, Bangalore. 
01 Mar Fifth one-day international, Jamshedpur. 
05 Mar Sixth one-day international, Delhi. 

06 Mar arrival, Colombo, Sri Lanka.  

10 Mar First one-day international, Colombo (day/night). 
13 Mar TEST, Colombo. 
20 Mar Second one-day international,Moratuwa.


Vicky:
UMass, Dec 20

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Summarized from the news clips.
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From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Re: AUS PAK exciting
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:38:38 GMT

In <Bz7s0C.E11@sunfish.usd.edu> shariq@charlie.usd.edu writes:
>In article <199212100418.AA16873@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au>, farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au writes:
>>Pakistan is 2-27 after 15 overs, Javed and Salim batting. Reiffel has 3 overs
>>2 maidens 0 for 4.

>Monsieur, Why do ypu not put new info on your plan file? It is still the same 
>Aussie vs. WI game

  Because some days I get really excited and put a huge effort in, which means
logging in to the other machines regularly to update the score, and some days
I am running around doing work and can only make the occasional report.

Friendless
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From: aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain)
Subject: Re: World Champions???
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:32:20 GMT

In article <BzF5Ez.K8n@ns1.nodak.edu>, ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
>         Today two World Chamions of cricket, one the current one and the other,
> a former one are trashed so soundly that it defies description.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^ 
come on Rao Sahib lets not put india's performance in the same leagues as that
of Pakistan. they are close to 4 runs an over, pakistan didnt even approach
2 runs an over


> watch the WI game. I have absolutely no explanation as to how the first five
> wickets fell for such a low total and there were not many Pakistanis who seem
> to be interested in the scores (there were not many contacts to finger at my
> machine). I was hoping that after Wasim came to join Inzamam, by which time
> the fate of the game was sealed, I would see some really inspired batting from
> the pair. But the run rate was very low and I gave up after Waqar was out. No
> matter whether Pakistan won the World Cup, or BBC and Channel 9 call them World
> Champions, they are at the present state not in the World Class, nowhere near
> Australia in the current one day series or England last summer as far as ODIs
> are concerned.
> 
agreed this performance was terrible, i too was epxecting some sort of display(i.e good)
from wasim and Inzi, but alas it was not to be. you say you did see the match
you should be able to shed more light on this batting display.

Aamir



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From: obaid@ecf.toronto.edu (OBAID ARIF)
Subject: Re: Using Dougie
Keywords: Dougie
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:21:38 GMT

In article <BzE4s7.JGq@rice.edu> haider@tao.rice.edu (Haider Abbas Rizvi) writes:
>--
>Well I was trying to get dougie to work. I got the executable present in
>the /pub dir of ford.**.za and tried to run it with
>dougie plains.nodak.edu 1725
>as said in ksrao's plan. Can someone tell me if s/he is able to get dougie
>to run as a slave only.
>  
>Thanks,
>--
>Haider

		I'm having the same problem. It seems that it does not 
		recognize plains.nodak.edu 1725. Maybe Dr. Rao can shed
		some light.

--Arif
.
From: KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pakistan after 5 overs
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:40:37 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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SEt to score 178 to win 42 overs
Pakistan are none for 21 after 5 overs
Rameez 8, Aamir 9
From: KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: WI after 20 overs
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:58:57 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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At the end of 20 overs: WI are 4 for 67; Rcd 22 and Arthurton  1

Lara was bound around his legs by Javid, the ball flattening the leg stump.
Lara scored 15, he was out at 56.

Logie was next to go, hitting the ball at Rameez's throat off Sohail's
spinners, (mid wicket), a bad shot

At the end of 15 overs; WI are 2 for 46; Ricson 12, Lara12
Richardson hits a six off Aaquib in the 15 th over
At the end of 10 overs WI are   29 for 2
Lara  on  8, Richie 0, extras 10

Haynes  b Wasim  6
Simmons c Sohail b Wasim  5


Haynes was bowled through the gate - a beautiful delivery from Akram which
flattened the middle stump in the 7th over.

In the 9th over, he got Wasim caught by Sohail off a ball moving away in the
second slip.

WI batting first: 10 for no loss; Haynes 4 Lara 1

They are after 5 overs   

3 wides in a row in Wasim's 3rd over (5th of the game)
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From: pavenant@dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za (Paul Avenant)
Subject: India 89/3 after 26
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:14:05 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Pretoria

	
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:27:04 -0500 
From: Shrisha Rao <sr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: score Ind/SA

Would someone with better access to reality please clarify why it is
that the scorecard for the Ind/SA match shows Shastri getting three SA
wickets (Hudson, Rhodes, Cronje) but his bowling figures are shown as
6-0-36-1 ?
                                                                        
                                                                        
                  Shrisha Rao

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From: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Subject: SA / India 5th ODI
Keywords: So far so good.....
Reply-To: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:19:24 GMT


for those of you who haven't been able to find out the scores.
This is from pieter's .plan file.
outh Africa vs India, 5th D/N, Springbok Park, Bloemfontein, 15/12/92
              South Africa                               India
Hudson                                 Jadeja     c McMilla b Donald  9 ( 25)
Wessels                                Raman      c McMilla b Matthe 16 ( 46)
Kirsten                                Prabhakar* not out            35 ( 55)
Rhodes                                 Azhar    - not out            20 ( 38)
Callaghan                              Tendulkar
Cronje                                 Kapil
McMillan                               Shastri
Richardsn                              Amre
Matthews                               Yadav
Donald                                 Kumble
DVilliers                              Srinath
Extras  (W: 0 N: 0 B: 0 LB: 0)  0      Extras  (W: 1 N: 1 B: 0 LB: 3) 5
Total   (Ov:  0.0 RR: 0.00)     0 / 0  Total   (Ov: 27.0 RR: 3.15)   85 / 2
             O  M  R  Wi Wd Nb                        O  M  R  Wi Wd Nb
Callaghan -  3  0  14  0  0  0
Cronje    *  3  0  13  0  0  0
McMillan     5  0  21  0  0  0
Matthews     6  1  16  1  0  1
Donald       5  2   9  1  1  0
DVilliers    5  0  11  0  0  0
                Prabhakar dropped on 9 by Calaghan in the covers

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From: aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain)
Subject: Pak vs WI final score request
Keywords: dont be embarrassed, just post it
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:13:57 GMT


Could Dr Rao or someone as knowledgeable post the
final score. i know its embarrasing to put the score
up but i think we can handlt it :-)

just a little comment about Sohban's article. i would
like to make some additional comments. simmons was
very economical, but then he wasnt the only one, after
his spell was over, pakistan was still averaging less
than 1.5 runs an over for a long time(i dont know the
final score) and they still had 5 wkts after his spell
was over, correct me if a am wrong.
you expect good teams to have bad matches, but this
wasnt one of them, this was a pathetic batting display
i just hope we dont see more of this in the coming
matches.
whats the points table like, my guess is
                P       W       L       T       pts
Australia       5       3       1       1       7
WI              6       3       3       0       6
Pak             5       1       3       1       3

Aamir

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From: pcm@baby.bby.oz.au (Paul McLeish)
Subject: Re: "Cheating" Aussie umpires?
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia
	<1992Dec9.010147.23407@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
	<92344.085850SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:42:45 GMT

>
>Anyway prue could not see clearly healys attempted stumping.....
>and as no fielding players saw exactly what happebned he had to
>give lara out and presume it was a fair dismissal..end of story....
>
>>>well, then he's not fit to be a test umpire. if he could not clearly see the
>>>attempted stumping then there was no way he could give lara out. the benefit
>>>of the doubt must go to the batman. i hope the above is your opinion and not
>>>what umpire prue said.
>>> Stay cool,
>>> Spaceman Spiff

Here, here.
If he could not see then how on earth was he given out.  It was a
pathetic piece of umpiring.  His job is to KNOW, beyond reasonable
doubt, that the man is out. To presume the guy was out is crazy, why
bother standing in the middle, go sit in the shade on the boundary and
guess - its just as accurate and if you are not sure you can ask the
fielding side.

The umpire in question blew it, and the pressure then caused him to
make another appalling decision the next day, giving that caught
behind not out. 

Bring on the neutral umpires.

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From: aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain)
Subject: pak vs WI WSC
Keywords: pak 5/31 in 22nd
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:13:42 GMT

This is not a joke !!!
pak were25/5 after 16 ovs
they need a miracle to get a respectable total
and loads of miracles to come close to winning

pak now 35/5

I am not staying up for this :-)

Aamir