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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 11:21:54 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: 10 Years Ago from SOD

In article <6521@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com>, njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
(Nancy Spera) says:
>
>I just couldn't pass up posting the 10 Years Ago piece from SOD.
>
Oh Tangy, I'm so happy that you found this and posted it.  I just miss those
ol' days so much......***hu hu hu sob hu hu hu sniff  pphhhh**....ah better
>
>        Tony and Renee were forced to end
>   their relationship when they learned they

>   were siblings.  Tony told his wife, Liz,
>   that if she continued her affair with Neil,
>   Neil would suffer an "unfortunate accident."

Ah yeah!  Another good one!

>   Later, Tony forced himself on his wife,
>   hoping to get her pregnant.  A visibly
>   shaken Liz ended her affair with Neil in
>   order to save his life.  Marie was outraged
>   by Liz's cruel and abrupt treatment of Neil.

Of course, the DeepRootedCan'tHaveItTypeOfMysteriousRelationship-Days had
quite a few of those in the earlier years.  Now they don't pine away anymore.
They just jump in the sack all of the time.  I mean talk about safe sex!
You'd think things would be the opposite of what they have been.

>   Meanwhile, Tony told Renee that he was still
>   legally married to Liz.  To spite him, a
>   jealous Renee vowed to be with David.
>
This was Julie's son, wasn't it?

>        While Johnny was thrilled by the
>   sight of his natural mother, Marlena was
>   both upset and surprised to see her adopted
>   son's happy reaction.  As Marlena was trying
>   to loosen her apron strings, Roman received
>   startling news: He had a daughter.
>
One has a son and the other has a daughter.  How quaint.  Seriously, this was
when the had just gotten married wasn't it?  Or shortly after?  Marlena was
just either pregnant with the twins or just about to?
>NJ Tangy
>-37 days till the World Premiere of HHH

OK Tangy, Quince is too tired today to even think about what HHH might mean.
well, maybe not - Honest Hells Angels?   Horrible Henry Howard (whoever that
may be)?  OOh, I'm just being tired crazy.

A slowly moving, happy to be napping in 5 hours Quince
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From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Subject: KL:  Character Poll/  REMINDER
Keywords: Rock the Vote!!!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:06:56 GMT


Hi.  Don't forget to vote for your favourite characters!!  I had posted
that the deadline would be Monday, 9/14.  Due to a *very* poor response
[read: 4 entries] I will extend the deadline til Wednesday, 9/16.  I'd
like to post the results by next Friday.

The rules are simple, you have 20 positive votes and 10 negative votes.
You distribute them any way you'd like to the characters on Knots Landing.
This is an all-time poll so you may vote for ANYONE that has ever been on
the show.  

	SAMPLE BALLOT:

	Plus                           Minus

	Greg       5             Claudia    3
	Abby       5             Kate       3
	Karen      5             Valene     4  
	Mac        5


So, am I going to hear from you people or what?  :)  Bev, Joanna, Angela,
Ann...... ????

Thanks,

Tim
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From: amy@lloyd.Camex.COM (Amy Lindsay)
Subject: Y&R: Storylines which "Coulda Been Contenders"
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 18:54:01 EDT

I agree that it would be really lame if Nikki tries to pass off Jack's kid
as Victor's, especially since they passed over a BUNCH of Classic Tragic
Soap Opera Story Lines to do it.

Such as...

Nikki finds herself pregnant with Jack's child, but Jack wakes up after his
accident with amnesia!

Nikki finds herself pregnant with Jack's child, but the accident has hurt
Jack in such a way that he can't have any more children.  So, she bravely
goes back with Jack, sacrificing her happiness, etc. etc.

Dr. Noah accidently lets slip to Jack that Nikki is pregnant and he tries
to get a court order preventing her from having an abortion.

Nikki thinks she's pregnant with Jack's child but actually her and
Victoria's records were switched.  Later it is discovered at Nina is also
pregnant...

Nikki has an abortion, but Ashley finds herself pregnant with Victor's
child.  So Victor decides to drop Nikki, and try to get back with Ashley,
who doesn't want him and who ends up marrying Blade to spite him (okay, so
that last bit's a little much...)

Nikki stays pregnant, doesn't tell Victor it isn't his.  Ashley is pregnant
with Victor's baby.  They both deliver at the same time, but Nikki switches
babies to that her baby has Victor's genetic ID when they check for
paternity... (oops, sorry, they've already done this with Lauren and
Sheila)

Nikki and Ashley meet at the clinic where they're both deciding to
terminate their respective pregnancies. (How many blondes with dark glasses
fit in a clinic's waiting room?)

Nikki dies in childbirth and Jack and Victor fight over custody of all the
children... who want to go with Jack.

 A.G.Lindsay     *     Cloud Rental: Reasonable Rates     *     amy@camex.com 
Typography & Design Department ~ Camex, Inc. ~ Boston, MA (617-426-7550 x575)
	      ATC: "Unable touch and goes, state intentions."
Pilot: "I intend to win Megabucks and live off the interest of my portfolio."
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From: klswan01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: AMC:Let's get matching clothes
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:12:57 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

O.K., pardon me if this has been discussed before but I just have to
remark that people on AMC who are in scenes together or who we are
supposed to believe should be together (e.g. Dimitri and Erica) dress
in MATCHING CLOTHES!!  AMC has always done this color-coordinating clothes
thing to some extent, but they have really been going wild with it lately.
Has anyone else noticed this or do I need a new picture tube in my t.v.?
They do it most with Brooke, Edmund and everyone else involved in that
story.  I remember one day when Brooke, Edmund, Dimitri, Angelique, and
Helga were all color-coordinated in nice blue outfits.  A couple of weeks
ago Brooke and Edmund went around for a couple days wearing mustard-colored
clothes (he in a long-sleeved shirt, she in a slightly darker tank top with
a matching jacket).  Reality check--does anyone you know dress so that they
match their mate?  Are we supposed to believe that this just happens or 
should we think Brooke and Edmund sit down and plan their attire with one
another?  

Karen S.
University of Louisville
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From: perkinsh@infonode.ingr.com (Hilary Perkins)
Subject: Re: AMC: Update for Monday, Sept. 7th
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:03:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.215247.16629@tronsbox.xei.com> trish@tronsbox.xei.com (Trish) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.170730.20531@athena.mit.edu> zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep8.040250.11394@tronsbox.xei.com> trish@tronsbox.xei.com (Trish) writes:
>>>Dixie forgets to close front door....
>>Dixie bugs me! Dixie and Brian both bug me. I shouldn't let 'em get
>>to me...:-)
>
>I know what you mean.  I don't want Brain and Hayley back together but
>I don't want Dixie and him together either.  

I dunno ... I kind of like Brian and Hayley together ... maybe I just
don't watch enough to catch all of the nuances (sp).  Of the current
crop of younger characters, they seem to be the most "fitted".

I do not like Dixie and Brian - fur sure!  Especially since they've
been dressing Ditz in those "grown-up" clothes and keeping Brian
looking so young ...

Besides - Brian looks an awful lot like this cute little 24 year
old I met recently!  (Can we talk about robbing the cradle again? :)

Hilary
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From: ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix)
Subject: TAN Re: AMC: UPDATE WED. SEPT 2
Organization: Wild Bill & BabyCat's House of Many Pleasures
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:53:44 GMT



   I was watching my tape of yesterday's Y&R and as I FF'd thru
   the commericals one caught my eye.  Has anyone else seen the 
   commercial that Gloria does?  It is for one of those "feminine 
   products"  


   Ellon (I hate those commericals) St. Croix


--
"Excuse me,George Herbert,irregular-heart-beating,read-my-lying-lipping
slipping-in-the-polls,do-nothing,deficit-raising,make-less-money than 
Millie-the-White-House-dog-last-year,Quayle-loving,sushi-puking Bush!
I don't remember inviting your ass to my show!"  Arsenio Hall.
From: thompson@waldron.Stanford.EDU (Sharon Thompson-Schill)
Subject: Re: AMC:  Tangent (Refrigerators, Dogs, etc.)
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 01:13:18 GMT

In article <BuMq7M.GGo@scd.hp.com> susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com writes:
>Linda Macdonald (llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: Brian/Haley/Dixie
>: 
>: Someone mentioned that they thought this was AMC's way of trying to
>: recreate the Greg/Jenny storyline.  Oh how I miss those days.  I never
>: missed a show.  If only, if only, if only:  we could have Jenny, Greg
>: and Tad back.  I'd start watching the show again instead of just reading



One element that was so prevalent 10 years ago and that is gone now
are all the great "bad" mothers -- most of the parents are supportive
now, even Adam -- no real control freaks.  Remember Jenny's mom, and
Liza's mom (both of whom are around now, but plotless) and Dottie's mom
and all those other wonderful mom's.  I wonder what happened...

Sharon T-S

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Date: Tue,  8 Sep 1992 12:27:30 -0400 
From: "Traci M. Radzyniak" <tr0x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: GH: At the Movies



Well, I hate to admit this to everyone, but last night I caught half of
"Who's that Girl" (the Madonna movie) and (if you saw it ) remember the
screaming bridesmaids who were so stupid?  well, one of them was Crystal
Carson (not sure of her exact real name); I recognized her at the very
end; she had brown hair then.  I read the credits and sure enough, it
was her!

Traci

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From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Subject: Re: AMC:  I have some questions... and comments.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 06:30:33 GMT
Organization: Not
Distribution: na

marquard@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tom) writes: 

> Since when is Guy Smiley (aka Charlie) so interested in helping Galen 
> deal with Carter?  Is he going to all of a sudden become a cop?  Is he
> moving into law enforcement?  Or is he going to turn into one of
> Trever and Jeremy's Mahatmas.  This is too weird.

Well, the "since when" is since the writers decided the public liked
Charlie enough that they could continue with their plan to groom
him into the next Tad replacement. Think I'm kidding?

> There is a new Natalie.  Does anyone know if this is permanent?  If so, 
> why did the old Natalie leave the show?

There was tension on the set between Trevor and Natalie and more people
associated with the show liked Trevor so they booted Natalie and got a
new one. In short.

> Comment:
>     The Brian that they have now is very annoying.  Every third word that
> comes out of his mouth is Duh and his wardrobe sucks..

I'm with you. What's even funnier, is that the actor who plays Brian
(Matt Borlenghi) says he works with wardrobe on the clothes, heh heh.
Now maybe they don't give him much choice, but still... The actress who
plays Haley was interviewed in the same article, and she knew enough to
distance herself from the wardrobe they put her in. She said something to
the effect that the clothes they put her in are not the kind of clothes
that she wears, and that there have been people who voted that her
character was one of the worst-dressed in daytime, and she wasn't about
to argue witht them.

> I hate to bash the
> guy but the flannel shirt with cut off arms and tucked in back with 
> the front not tucked in looks very stupid.  What is the deal with the 
> bandana wrapped around his wrist?

I had a friend in college who was in a gang, and he wore his colors in
the form of a bandana on his wrist. At least, I always suspected that's
why he wore it. Maybe Matt Borlenghi saw someone wearing a bandana on
their wrist and thought it looked cool? Maybe Brian's in a gang?
I dunno, I am pretty ignorant about that kind of thing myself.

> Is he wounded?  Does he take the wrist bandana off when he goes to bed?

Heh heh. I guess ol' Dits will know.

> Or takes a shower?

Well, we've already established he never takes a shower, since he wears
the same clothes for a week ;-)

> Or makes 
> love to Dixie?  The writers have to do something to spruce up his
> wardrobe.  He looks like he pulls his clothes out of the Salvation
> Army's dumpster.  

Maybe that's all the AMC budget can afford after all the bleach they
use on every non-Lucci female ;-)

Ellen "one in a million"
From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 22:37:46 PDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The GRAFex Company

kriesel@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Julie R Kriesel) writes:

> Hiya, I'm back!  I have a class in about five minutes, but I just had
> to say hi to you all.

Hey!  Hi, darlin'

Hurry back.

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              A prince trapped in the body of a dirty old man.
From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:13:18 GMT
Subject: Re: AMC: Godzilla Speaks Update (c) 920821
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / lorico@boomboom.Eng.Sun.COM (Lori Cotton) /  8:56 am  Sep  4, 1992 /

>Okay congratulate me now.  No, I'm not pregnant.  Two things... I finally
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I thought this was the reason for the congrats ... it would be for my SO :-)

>figured out how to program my VCR so I can tape AMC and Mia is going to 
>be in a video.  She filmed on Wednesday and we'll have final copy in two 
>weeks.  This is a pilot video to send to investors to invest in a half
>hour kids workout video.  Mia plus five other kids were chosen out of
>350.  I think I'm more excited than she is!

Mia sounds like she's in a lot better shape than I am ... I've got to
start exercising again ... BTW, congrats!

>lori.cotton@west.Sun.COM	|   "If I can't be trusted with a choice, then

Dave Ochs               "Would you just calm down, you're supposed to be
daveo@cv.hp.com         innocent!"  Edmund to Dimitri, breaking in on
                                    a 'business' meeting at Erica's
From: shiva%morpheus%Servers@HIPPO.BANYAN.COM
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB: Monday update remarks
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:53:48 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 69 19:00:00 EST

Warning: (provoked) brief obscenity follows:



Cruz is so full of shit.



End of obscenities, at least ones I'll write down. ;-)  What are these writers
thinking?  I mean, are they *really* sitting there around the big conference
table thinking, "Yeah, THIS makes sense!"  I think if I were Kelly I'd have
been inclined to slug him.

And THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! for the update!  It was marvelous -
I really felt like I'd watched the show!

(I'll be saving the updates, by the way, until WBZ brings the show back.  If
I have to order extra backup tapes for the computer, I'll just send them the
bill. ;-))

Liz, who liked Eileen Davidson on _The Young and the Restless_
From: mec@acsu.buffalo.edu (Marie E. Copertino)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL - updater list
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:13:38 GMT
Organization: UB

Okay... so far we have a definite on Linda w/ the Tuesday updates, and
			             Joanna w/ the Fridays.

	Any others?  If there are any spots open when we get the list 
	completed, I'll probably volunteer for one, or help whomever needs it.




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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Next Week's Spoilers
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:22:32 GMT
Organization: Denver, Colorado

In article <1992Sep8.160532.16629@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:
>Welcome, aboard, mates, it's spoy-hoy-lers-time.
>
>

>When Shane catches Kimberly acting up again, he fears she's gone back
>to her call girl days.   Lacey realizes that Shane is getting suspicious,
>so she calls up Tarrington and convinces him to re-hire Shane and send him
>on a dangerous mission.  Also, Lacey pretends to be Kim in order to
>trick Marlena aqnd Marcus into giving her a clean bill of health.  Now,
>though, Lacey has to get rid of Phillip too.  When Kim engages in some
>real kinky sex with Phillip, which of the personalities is in the bed?

Kim/Lacey convinces Tarrington to send a man that can barely walk
on a dangerous mission.  Hahahahahahohohohhhehehehee.  

Oh yeah, I forgot, I imagine Shane is going to come home from the
Mayo clinic as a miracle patient, cured and off and running.

This is the most ridiculous storyline ever imagined.  I almost think
it is worth than Baby Howie!!!

>Nicholas takes a tumble which could cost him his vision in one
>eye.  Carly, having gotten a special degree in eye surgery on the
>one day in the past 6 months she wasn't on the show, performs
>delicate surgery on Nicholas, praying that she's not too late to save
>his vision.

This really pisses me off.  What next, a f**king neurosurgeon?
cardiac expert?  I imagine that she'll perform plastic srugery
to save his face from scarring!  

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

>Greg 


Thanks for the spoilers Greg, I don't know if I will be able to
watch though!

Cindy



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From: carol@ivy.Princeton.EDU (Carol Agans)
Subject: Re: AMC: Oh Livia, Gross
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University, Electrical Engineering Dept.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:47:30 GMT

In article <2SEP199219204379@mrl.arc.nasa.gov> holst@mrl.arc.nasa.gov (Laura Holst) writes:
>I couldn't believe it on today's show (WED) when Livia and Derek were leaving
>the (cabin?)  Livia, after saying she's not hungry, picks up a corn- on-the-cob
>with her bare hands (I guess the corn were cold by now), takes one bite out of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Someone else says (sorry, I lost the name):
>>Wait a minute!  I eat corn on the cob with my bare hands!  Am I
>>committing a faux pas without even knowing it?

I say:  Whenever we have guests over for a barbecue, I alway pass out
a pair of big, industrial strength rubber gloves so they can handle the
corn-on-the-cob.
-- 
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From: morgan@math.psu.edu (Ilene Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB: Need summary of 9-9 episode
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:21:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Pennsylvania State University

Hi, all.  My VCR was having a bad day on Wednesday; I thought it was done
for.  Fortunately, it seems to be working again, but I missed Wednesday's
episode and I'm not sure if an update is forthcoming.  Could some kind soul
send me a brief e-mail summary of what I need to know about Wednesday's
episode?  I get the impression it was A Martinez's last appearance. :-(

Thanks a lot -- Ilene
morgan@math.psu.edu
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Subject: Re: DOOL: Thursday (what else???) :-)
From: Nelson Broat <NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 4 Sep 1992 21:29:27 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Ninex not Limex:     Sorry Liz, but MJ and I just couldn't resist. :)

In article <1992Sep4.215242.4182@chpc.utexas.edu>, Joanna L. Castillo
<pefv702@humble.pe.utexas.edu> says:
         ------
           |____ Oh are you really? :-)

Limex not Ninex:

  I made it! And I'm alive! >:->

>PS:  My email account is soundly screwed up at present.  If you *have*
>     to get in touch with me before Wednesday [9-Sep] or so...you can
>     try sending mail to peea224@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu.  That worked
>     for Gail today.  Nothing else seems to be getting through.  Isn't
>     that special?  :-)

Both:

  Hint Hint Hint maybe they're trying to tell you something. :)

> Nothing else seems to be getting out either!

  Yeah that is special! We're having a toast at this very moment for this
  auspicious occasion.:)

>  I'm glad RATS is still here for me!  :-)

  Yeah and like we're happy too. Thrilled actually. :)

                                                From the account of the
                                                  questionable one. :)
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From: van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN Cats
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:14:10 GMT



a
I
saI saw the most amazing cat trick when I was living in the Florida Keys...we
were sailing out by these little islands, and a couple had taken their dinghy inwith their cats so that (I guess) the cats could run around.  When they couldn'tget the cats to come right away, they just went off in the dinghy and called thecats...as they got about 150 feet out, the cats came onto the beach, and
started *swimming* to the boat!!  Cats, swimming in the ocean, meowing as loudlyas they could the whole way...it was unbelievable!!  


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From: bkrumsee@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Barb Krumsee)
Subject: ATWT: TAN Misc Trivia
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:53:19 GMT

Hi Everyone!

We just returned from an incredible vacation in the Rockies. In order to keep 
our 8 year old daughter entertained, we kept track of all the different state 
license plates we saw. We found every state including Alaska and Hawaii but 
didn't see one from Rhode Island.

Are any of you wardees from out that way? If so, can you send a description of 
a Rhode Island license plate. My daughter is beginning to believe that there is
a barbed wire fence around the state so that no one can leave.

Thanks!

KrumKake
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   Barb.Krumsee@osu.edu                            College of Education
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From: rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us (Ruth Alleman)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Update for Friday, 92-sep-04
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:39:07 GMT
Organization: Home Sweet Home, Lafayette, LA

In article <1992Sep9.041348.20393@chpc.utexas.edu> peea224@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (Joanna L. Castillo) writes:
>DOOL update for Friday, September 4, 1992.
	[deleted to save space]

Joanna,

HURRAY!  Finally an update!  Thank you so much for your time and
effort.  It was wonderful!!!!!!  Can I say more to sttroke your
ego??

Ruth.