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Subject:      Re: UNIVERSAL TEACHING EVALUATIONS

From: Students' Union
      University of Alberta
THANKS DICK, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE MARDEE'S EMAIL ADDRESS? DALE
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CATHY,
        I would love to see a copy of your instrument.

        Kathy Morgan
        Department of Psychology
        Wheaton College
        Norton, MA  02766
        kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet
From: CBRAN00@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Cathy Brandt)
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On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:35:00 EDT Barbara Marantz said:
>it be helpful for all of us to see it?  If not, Cathy, could you
>send me a copy:

Frankly, I am not smart enought to figure out how to send it via email unless
I type the instrument.  The form is good.  I'm so new at this I know of no way
to get it all to you.  So, send addresses.  I'll get them off to you as soon as
possible.  You can obviously send the request to the list.  But, in order to
not bore the list members with such requests you can email me personally.

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CATHY BRANDT                              ASHLAND ELEMENTARY
TEACHER OF THE HEARING IMPAIRED           FAYETTE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY                       INTERNET CBRAN00@UKCC.UKY.EDU
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From: STANKULI@UWF.BITNET (stan kulikowski ii)
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  we are searching for material and technology engineers, computer hardware
and software experts, architects, planners, educators, researchers, and
futurists who are the best authorities available to participate in a
teleconference which will address the following issues:

       1)  the impact of technology on existing and future facilities;
       2)  what skills and information will be needed to design technology
           responsive facilities in the next two decades;
       3)  what strategies will be necessary for planning, designing, and
           constructing future facilities;
       4)  and what will be the impact of future technologies on laws,
           statutes, and building codes affecting educational facilities.

  please recommend who you think would be the best people, nationally or
internationally, to speak about these topics.  send names and any contact
information to my email address, given below.  feel free to circulate this
request to any other network group which may produce good nominations.
                                                                      stan

                        stankuli@UWF.bitnet
     .
    ===    we all help each other get a little further down the road,
    : :          or be damned for the fools that we are.
    ---                       -- the motorcycle modificationalist's moto
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Subject: Re: teacher evaluation
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During my college days at Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville, most of
the classes had students fill out teacher evaluation sheets like the ones
that have been mentioned.  However, for some reason, not all classes did this.
It seemed that evaluations were not "necessary" for the older instructors
or those that may have been there for a lengthly time.

My question then, as well as today, is why are not all teachers or instructors
evaluated in some way each year?  While I was a student at a community
college, instructors were rarely evaluated by students.  On some occasions,
the department chairperson would sit in on a class to see how the instructor
was doing. (There was little feedback requested of the students).

With regard to evaluating and assisting teachers become better at what they
do, why not video tape them in their class.  This way, they can see for
themselves how well in some areas they are doing, as well as what areas they
may need improvement.

I know having a camera in the room may make some folks nervous, but if the
camera can be put far enough back while still showing the instructor well, this
would allow the teacher to feel more comfortable.  If this can not be done,
perhaps after enough time working in front of the camera would do the same.

Just some thoughts.  Are there any comments, please, let me know.

David Stoddard
Saint Louis University
Medical Center

Audio Visual Specialist.

Also:  Would like to become a teacher some day.
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From:         Gene Glass <ATGVG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Job Opportunity

From:         Maryann Santos de Barona <ATMSB@ASUACAD.BITNET>

Dear Colleague:

We are writing to ask for your assistance.  We hope to identify
a person or persons who might have interest in being considered
for a position on our faculty in school psychology under the
university's Faculty Diversity Plan.  Under this plan, funds
have been designated for recruitment of ethnic minorities and
women.  We hope to identify women or individuals of either
gender who are of minority status who might be considered under
this program.  Potential candidates can be considered at any
rank.

We hope to identify a small pool of potential candidates who
evidence strong promise for success in scholarship, teaching,
and leadership in school psychology.  If you are aware of any
potential candidates, please forward their names (and addressed
and phone numbers if available) to us.  We would also
appreciate a copy of a vita if you have a potential candidate's
permission to send us one.

We do need to emphasize that we have not been authorized to
advertise a faculty position in school psychology and that no
such position exists at this time.  The likelihood that we can
be successful in creating a faculty line will depend, in part,
on the strength of a potential candidate who might have
interest in joining our faculty.

Thank you for your assistance.

Jerry Harris, Ph.D.
Professor and Program Coordinator, School Psychology

Maryann Santos de Barona, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
School Psychology

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Maryann Santos de Barona                 BITNET:     ATMSB@ASUACAD
Arizona State University                 INTERNET:   ATMSB@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
Division of Psychology in Education      PHONE:      602-965-3384
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COLLEGE OF EDUCATION                            ATGVG AT ASUACVAX.BITNET
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602-965-2692  (303-499-2816 from June '92 until Dec. '92)
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From:         Tom Rusk Vickery <VICKERY@SUED.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: USE OF NET

Jeff left out at least one "mouth" in his list of smiley components,
one necessary to express my view of recent president politics.

                        |-Q

                                            T.

                          Tom Rusk Vickery
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From: SUEXEC@UALTAVM.BITNET (Students' Union)
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Subject: UNIVERSAL TEACHING EVALUATIONS
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:01:23 GMT
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From: Students' Union
      University of Alberta
HELLO TO THE LIST:
Can anyone tell me if your institition uses Universal Teaching Evaluations?
If so, does each faculty have a policy for distribution and how often are
they are distributed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks,
Dale Hemmerling, University of Alberta Students' Union, Canada
suexec@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca
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From: U32E5@WVNVM.BITNET (JOHN GOODEN)
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Subject: Doctoral Programs
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:14:54 GMT
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We are doing an informal survey of faculty invovlement in doctoral      ram
program activities.  We would like to know how your department handles  .
the following.

   Do you have a formula  for accounting for doctoral loads?    Do you  eceive
receive compentation or load reductions for chairing and serving on
doctoral committees? Is the compensation or load reduction pro-rated
on the basis of the amount of chairing and serving committees?  Any
information will be helpful.  Thanks.  John
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:36:02 EDT
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From:         JFCOVALE@SUVM.BITNET
Subject:      teacher evaluation

On teacher evaluation: My expereience with teacher evaluation "instruments",
both as a teachere as a principal, was that it was difficult to see them as
more than just makig sure that evaluation was done.  Specifically, with a "time
on task" measure, the questions I would be more interested in would be are: is
the task worth spending time on? and are these kids ready to be spending time
on it?  I found two things to be more valuable than any instrument I used,
or had used on me: (1) I tried to do a "walk-through" observation in each class
each day, and (2) talking with the teacher about the observed lesson before
doing my write-up.  The every-day walk-through was an ideal I often fell short
of, but it did give me an ongoing sense of what was going on in each class.
There was no formal write up of these visits, though I would drop notes into
mailboxes and personally comment on whatever I saw that deserved congratula-
tions.  Post-obs conferences then were used to explore the dynamics of the
lesson and prepare the write up.  I did not have an instrument required for
observations, so I just began with a blank sheet of paper.

On the matter of the faculty isolation, before I did anything, I'd try to get
some sense of the history - how did they get that way?    I'd want to know
what I was getting into the middle of before I got there.

Good luck.
From: ASMMW@ASUACAD.BITNET (mimi wolverton)
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Subject: Re: UNIVERSAL TEACHING EVALUATIONS
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:24:55 GMT
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Mardee Jenrette doesn't have an email address.  Her work address is:
         Mardee Jenrette
         Director of Teaching/Learning Project
         Office of the President
         Miami-Dade Community College District
         300 N. E. Second Ave.
         Miami, Fla. 33132
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From:         RMJAEGER@UNCG.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Doctoral Programs

IN some departments of our university, chairinsix or seven doctoral
committees is viewed as equivalent to teaching a course (the committees
must be active).  But in my department (Educational Research Methodology)
it just comes out of our hides.  The latterhas the effect of making all
but the most masochistic take on a sensible number of students at one
time.
  Dick Jaeger
  University of North Carolina at Greensboro
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From:         Susan Nolen <sunolen@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      more smilies

Allergic as I normally am to smily faces of any sort, I must admit that
the occasional grin used in email messages oft helps convey a wry tone, or
softne an otherwise ascerbic comment.  To that end, I add the
following characters:

    the pleasantly somnolent:   |-]
    the wry:   {<-/
    the goofy grin:   |:*}
    the sly wink:  ;-}
    the glare:  }8-(

Too bad we can't make them sit up.

Susan Nolen
U of Washington
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From:         Jeff Miller <ASJAM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: USE OF NET

The following is probably an inappropriate USE OF NET, but I'll
risk censure.

I liked Bill's use of the _8_ in creating the computer hacker's
smiley face.  So I tried to think of different ways of making the
symbol using a traditional IBM keyboard.  Here goes!

    Eyes   :  8  |
    Nose   -  *  +
    Mouth  )  (  >  <  O  I  D

There are 63 configurations of the smiley face using these
characters.  For example, |-)  8*>  :+O  |-D  |+I.

Granted, some of the faces are not smiley, but sometimes we
discuss topics that result in untoward statements, e.g.,
Presidential politics |-(.  Happy computing.

________________________      __________________________________
Jeff A. Miller                BITNET:   ASJAM@ASUACAD.BITNET
Arizona State University      INTERNET: ASJAM@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
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From: CBRAN00@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Cathy Brandt)
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Subject: Re: teacher evaluation
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:43:33 GMT
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Hi, I am an elementary school teacher of deaf and hearing impaired children.  I
also teach a hearing fifth grade math class this year.  (I take my deaf kids
 with me and sign while I teach.  When the fifth grade teacher teaches I sign
what she says.  Great cooperative situation)

Anyway -  I also am a Resource Teacher with our Internship program in the state
of Kentucky.  This means that I am assinged a first year teacher with whom I
must log 20 hours in the classroom and 50 outside.  While in the classroom we
have a specific instrument we use to observe teaching behavior.  Personally, I
think it is a great tool.  Of course there are parts that aren't the best.  But
overall it is good.  It focuses on content of lesson as well as teaching behavi
or, techniques and strategies used.  Frankly, after I took the training it
improved my own teaching.  We often forget the small things that can really be
the concrete that cements ideas in kid's mind for future application.

So, Kevin, I shall send you a copy of the instrument.  Anyone else who would
like one I'd be happy to make a copy and send you.  I assume they are not copy
righted and it is permissable to share.

Many of the behaviours are listed.  Each time one occurs it is marked with a
tally mark.  Some of these are positive, others negative.  It's great to sit
down with the person and show them what actually occured within the lesson.

Enough said.

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CATHY BRANDT                              ASHLAND ELEMENTARY
TEACHER OF THE HEARING IMPAIRED           FAYETTE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY                       INTERNET CBRAN00@UKCC.UKY.EDU
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From:         Bill Stilwell <CPD247@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: USE OF NET

For my money the use of Internet is my alternative to attending several
conferences per year, a delightful lifestyle which we cannot afford.  My
point is that Universities, Colleges, and Agencies who are supporting
Internet are really getting their money's worth 8-) ...

William Stilwell, Department of Educational and Counseling Psychology,
College of Education, UK, 40506-0017, 606-257-3395 (O).
"Play the game, fairly"         "Control.  Push the ball"
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From:         R Reid <SECD004@UNLVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: UNIVERSAL TEACHING EVALUATIONS

Gene Glass' observations on rating the professor were right on target
and summed up many concerns that should be addressed re students right
to know.  As a fairly new professor I am in the position of being
evaluated by my students and these evaluations become part of my tenure
file.  Thus at least ostensibly students affect my future empoyment.  My
concern with this initially was that my teaching would be affected
because of a desire for "good marks" from the students.  Do I try to
make the course a fun time at the expense of content and competencies?
Do I have to be Mr. Nice Guy accepting every student behavior whether I
deem it appropriate or not?  What happens when a student performs poorly
on an assignment or an exam and wants their grade raised without any
substantive basis?  These and other issues are frequent topics of
conversation among junior faculty members at my institution.  My
reaction, after the first semester, was that if I I treated teaching as
a popularity contest I couldn't live with myself.  However, I still had
to live and survive within the system.  The upshot wass that I tightened
up my instruction and my planning, established expectations early and
explicitly, made assignments and grading criteria detailed and specific,
and told students the performance levels they were expected to attain
and that I would hold them to.  The net result was very good ratings.
So in one way at least there was a positive outcome.  However, I still
wonder about these ratings in terms of tenure.  Can students dislike a
course/instructor and still learn?  I think back to a high school
algebra teacher who I hated, who drilled us and worked us unmercifully.
I would have trashed him ratings wise then.  But with hindsight I realiz
that I can still do algebra 20 years later thanks to him.  Interesting
some of my students also have that reaction.  As per making the ratings
public knowledge I think that students already have a quite well
developed grapevine regarding instructors and I would wonder about
condidentiality issues regarding these evaluations.
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From:         SPIRES Consortium <Consortium@STANFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Articles sought for fall CONSORTIUM UPDATE

To:    SPIRES Consortium members and other interested parties

From:  Phyllis Olrich, Editor of the CONSORTIUM UPDATE newsletter

Re:    Articles sought for next CONSORTIUM UPDATE


Planning for the fall issue of the CONSORTIUM UPDATE is underway.
Included in the next issue will be coverage of the Fall Workshop at
the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, the Advisory Board
meeting at EDUCOM, and more.

We are seeking your contributions for inclusion in the next
CONSORTIUM UPDATE.  Share your successful SPIRES application with
us!  Please send your articles to PhyllisO@Forsythe.Stanford.Edu by
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 5.  If you are not already receiving the
newsletter and would like to, or if you have any questions about the
desired format, please contact me (phone 415-725-1541).

Thank you.


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From:         "Elsa Nadler, Sponsored Program" <U2B8C@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      the date works

Thanks--the inproc = $hex WORKED.  Now all I have to do is count
occurrences and reset the counter when I get to a new record key--
any ideas?

Elsa Nadler
e-mail: U2B8C@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU
   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
For all knowledge and wonder (which is the seed of knowledge) is an
impression of pleasure in itself.       --Francis Bacon (1605)
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From:         Diana Gregory <HXKPY@SLACVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Julian Date Conversion


These suggestions may be WAY off the wall, but they're all I can
think of right now...

ONE:

Using the $Days function to get the number of days to
January 1 of the year in question, then use $XDate to
add the days from the "ddd" portion of the Julian date
field and convert the value back to a value recognizeable
by SPIRES.

I don't have an example off hand - I could come up with
one if someone else doesn't.


TWO:

We have a REXX Function here called "DATECONV" which can
convert one type of date to another.  If you run the
values through a REXX exec first, then pick up the
values the function gives you.

Diana
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From:         Sunnie Sund <SUNNIE@SLACVM.BITNET>


Elsa,

   I'm a bit confused. The example of your data that you sent has a valid date
format in it. 19921231 should be acceptable to SPIRES with $DATIN (explain
$DATE for an example with that exact format). As to replacing, I am again
confused. Do you simply have a multiply (4 times) occuring element that is
in date format and you want to replace the date with the most recent one
from your input data or is this really a structure of data that has the
date element as part of it?

   -Sunnie
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