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From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: explanations
Organisation: Politically Incorrect GOiDS "R" We, Inc.
X-To: ST923288@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 15:39:00 GMT

st923288@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Erika Lindsay) writes...
ST>I am so sick and tired of having to explain to my friends "just what's so
ST>terrific about Twin Peaks".

Well, then don't.


ST>Most of them have never seen the show, and
ST>I therefore don't see why they should be privy to the TP experience if they
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ST>have no desire to learn.

Sounds good to me.


ST>Twin Peaks was a very special experience, one that
ST>cannot be equalled by shows such as "Northern Exposure", "Picket Fences", or
ST>"Eerie, Indiana". Good shows they may be, but why must everyone compare
ST>them to TP?

You're certainly right about *that* one, Erika.


ST>by the way, none of you have come to visit me yet. Like I said,
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's *just* a little difficult, for at least two reasons:

1) Most of us don't live near Brandeis University (BTW, where is that...?)

2) You have a family and especially a boyfriend who might get rather upset
with you if you started taking in large numbers of strange people.


ST>I'm just down the road from margaret, and I have some lovely herb tea to
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ST>scare away winter's chill. See you soon

Well, sorry, that doesn't help much.  Which *particular* Margaret are you
just down the road from?  Is this Margaret any particular Margaret, or did
you snag a lucrative contract with the Log Lady (TM) to get her to live near
you and serve tea to strange people like us?  :-)

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From: justice@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWWM JAPANESE 
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 14:42:05 PST
Reply-To: justice@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I saw a copy of the Japanese FWWM and its packaging is a lot different 
than the US video packaging. The Japanese Laser Disc is no different than 
the movie but the cover has Bowie, Albert, Gordon and Cooper along with a 
backdrop of the red room and two pictures of Laura on it. It also has the 
lyrics to the FWWM poem and a few other intriguing words. Without the 
Japanese sub-titles, it's the same as the original.

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From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: What letters under fingernails?
X-To: THE WOMBAT
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:40:00 GMT

mfrazer@scott.skidmore.edu (The Wombat/Windom Earle/etc.) writes...
>        The letters were T for theresa banks, R for Laura, O for
>Ronnette, B for Maddie.

Why "B" for Maddie?

Also, I recall that 'Coop successfully concluded that TROB was actually a
transposition of ROBT, the short form for Robert.  I don't recall that he
immediately gathered that this was supposed to lead him to one of the
dimunitions of Robert, ie., "Bob".

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From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: HOTEL ROOM
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:44:31 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

David Lynch's HOTEL ROOM trilogy begins playing on HBO in January.
 
Airdates, according to the CABLE GUIDE, are:
 
January 8th:  10pm
	14th: 11pm
	17th: 8:30pm
	27th: 12:45x (midnightish)

I'm not sure if the "trilogy" will all be shown at once, it lists as
being 1:30 long, if it'll be split up throughout January OR if it'll be
split over three months.  
 
I'm assuming it'll be "all at once"...3 half-hour segments.  We'll see,
I guess.  I can't wait to see Crispin Glover again.
 
...e
 
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From: joe@dogface.austin.tx.us (Joe Zitt)
Subject: FWWM Japanese Laserdisc!
Organization: The Fortress of Ultimate Dorkiness
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 07:26:56 GMT

I saw the Japanese laserdisk of Fire Walk With Me at the Tower Records here
in Austin. I drooled and dove for it, but put it back when I realised that I
A) couldn't afford the $44.95, and
B) didn't have a laserdisc player.

Does anyone know if it has any extra goodies on it?
From: rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Eurovision tape
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:27:41 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu

Well, I finally broke down and bought the TP tape. Geez, the tacked on
ending is even lamer than I expected.

It was strange to watch what is basically the pilot without commercials! It
was easy to tell where they belonged, though.

-Rich Haller <rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu>   University of Oregon, Eugene, OR,
USA
From: C.G.C.vanDijk@IO.TUDelft.NL
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: The sites and such
Date: 30 Dec 1992 08:45:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi everybody,

Coming march I am planning to make a tour around the northwest,
something like Seattle-Yellowstone-Salt Lake City-SF-Seattle.  Could
somebody be so kind to:

- repost the info of the TP locations, and how to get there (I saw this
  on this list a long time ago, and I couldn't find a FAQ now).

- give some indication of the weather conditions that I can expect in
  Seattle and Yellowstone around march.

Thanks for the coffee,
                              Casper

Casper G.C. van Dijk               "Broken words,
Delft University of Technology      never meant to be spoken"
the Netherlands                                    Bob Dylan

Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: "Beauty Is Only Skin Deep" - Not!  :-)
X-To: ST923288@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:04:00 GMT

st923288@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Erika Lindsay) writes...
ST> Greetings to you all! My name is Erika and I am a huge Peaks fan. I must adm
ST> at when I first heard of the concept, I thought it sounded pretty lame, but
ST> when I learned later that it was a Lynch project, I knew I would love it, an
ST> was right. It is amazing the effect that TP has had on my life- I fell in
ST> love with my best friend because he is identical to Kyle, who I have always
ST> lusted after, except that Eric(my boyfriend) is blond, and therefore not as
ST> mysterious as Kyle, though just as quirky.


You're pulling my leg...

You fell in love with your best friend, who is now your boyfriend, because
he looks like "Dale Cooper"...?

Ah, wonders never cease, or as my version goes...

No Wonder Wonders Never Cease And Desist.

P.S. : Why do you consider blonds to not be as "mysterious" as brunettes?
Is this another one of those AntiBlonde remarks?  :-)

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: cat@kuemmel6.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at (k3032e4)
Subject: Fire walk with me, Twin Peaks
Date: Tuesday, 29 Dec 1992 17:16:21 CET
Keywords: Shelley, Twin Peaks
Summary: Hell, i loved the show
Organization: PC Cluster im TNF Turm
Distribution: all

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  As usually here -Austria- TP was shown after a one-and-a-half year delay,
nontheless i immediately fell in love with the whole  scenario. Then there
was the movie FWWM in cin, and of course i was on a holiday; of course they
only showed it for two weeks and i missed it.
Why am i telling you this?
  Hell, i don't know at all! I just thought i might babble about Tp again!
  By the by, has anyone got some info on Shelly Johnson aka Madchen Amick??
 (address *grin*, autographs, videos, gifs..)
    If yes, then mail me at k3023e0, althougt there may be a delay, because
 the mailing service is very,very slow.)


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                                   Scornful Martin
From: dan@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: explanations
Date: 29 Dec 92 17:21:19 GMT
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization

I too have grown very tired of explaining my fondness for TP to
people.  Most people in this country who watched it when it first
appeared were quickly turned off when they realized "Oh my god, it
really *is* a weird soap-opera and I have to actually pay attention".
People seemingly wanted nothing but Audrey, "damn good coffee" and the
various other slightly off-beat touches.  The movie, designed for us
rather than for...them..., was more of what we wanted, with
practically no emphasis on the quirky "charm" aspect of the show.  Of
course, to anyone who paid attention, the movie was very much an
extension of the show.  

It really amazed me.  Without really changing at all, the show went
from being hip, well-respected and critically acclaimed to being
despised and reviled.  And this was before even the hardcore fans
started to get slightly annoyed with it (or at least I did, during the
middle part of the second season, but it really improved after that).
Now with the movie showing up on several "worst of 92" lists, it would
sem that TP's public image in the US is at an all-time low.  Thank god
for Europe and Japan.  

- Dan
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From: zappa@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: On the Air
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:05:46 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

How many episodes of "On the Air" aired.  Here in Philadelphia, I only
got two.  Did number three air?  Does anyone know when the unaired
episodes will be released on video tape?  I'm also looking for a copy
of "Alphabet," a short Lynch made as a student.  I saw it several years
ago, but haven't been able to find it on video.

Any help would be appreciated.

Robin Stone "rstone@sun.lclark.edu"
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Peaks Sound/Video Files.
Date: 23 Dec 1992 01:19:36 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com

In article <1992Dec20.132711.6341@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield) writes:
> 
> Sorry if this happens to be a very old, out of date question, but I'm going to
> ask it anyway.
> 
> 1. What equipment is required for (a) IBM PC's, (b) Apple Mac's to be able to
>    display Peaks bitmaps/gifs and/or "run" sound sample files from the
>    soundtrack ?

GIFS can be displayed on Macs with GIFConverter, GIFFER, and Photoshop.  
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.movies
From: jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: 2nd season -- on Japanese laserdisc?
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:19:32 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <38002@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> traveler writes:
<
<	I gather from one of the postings I just read that season
<2 has not been released on videotape yet (I didn't think so--
<one of my Peaks freak friends would probably have told me).
<But I'm hearing a lot about the laserdiscs, particularly the
<Japanese  set.  Does that set include the 2nd season episodes?
<I would greatly appreciate this information.

	Yes, the Japanese LD set includes everything (I don't know
which version of the pilot though.)  I've seen it in San Diego and
Los Angeles.  The 2nd season comes in two boxes at $259 each.  I
forget how the first season was packaged, probably in a single box
for somewhat less $$.

	Jan Bielawski
	Computervision, San Diego
	jpb@calmasd.prime.com
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Finale - New (or very old) questions...
Date: 23 Dec 1992 01:18:27 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com

In article <1992Dec20.110945.3287@athena.mit.edu>, jhbrown@athena.mit.edu (Jeremy H Brown) writes:

> First, is there a good GIF of the Owl Cave map anywhere?

I got one off Compuserve.  Don't think I still have it, though.

> When Garland Briggs bumps into Hawk while stumbling out of the woods in
> a drugged haze, he asks Hawk "Which way to the Castle?"  He later
> mentions the King of Romania.  Did anyone catch the exact quote about
> the King (I can't make it out.)

"The King of Romania (mumble mumble) will not attend" (or "cannot attend,"
this is from memory).

> When Mrs. Palmer is giving her message to Garland in the RR Diner, she
> says "I'm in the black lodge with Agent Cooper."  Observation:  _black_
> lodge.  Annie tells Laura in FWWM that the good Dale is in "the Lodge",
> no color attached.  Has Dale moved from one lodge to the other
> (presumably that angel at the end is not hanging out in the Black Lodge)
> or is Annie just unclear on the split? 

Or is the message just another lie from Windom Earle?

> A moment after Mrs. Palmer delivers her message, the view shifts to a
> shot inside the black lodge, and the LMFAP's voice says "I'm waiting for
> you."  Is this/ is this not part of the message given to Garland (thus
> implying that the LMFAP is the one speaking through Mrs. Palmer.) 

The closed caption for the scene with Mrs. Palmer said, "(VOICE OF 
WINDOM EARLE):".
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From: justice@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM JAPANESE
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 10:50:53 PST
Reply-To: justice@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

> More details, please!  Is it letterboxed?  Picture/sound quality ok?  English
> subtitles included (e.g. in the garmonbozia (sadness and pain) scene)?  Is it
> all CLV?  No censorship, I hope? 
> 
> And does anyone know a release date for a US LaserDisc of FWWM?  (If there ar
> no English subtitles on the Japanese disc, I think I'd rather wait)
> 
> Thanks in advance!  
> Ola
> 
> --
> Ola Torstensson, dat91oto@ludat.lth.se
> No part of this article (including this .sig) should be taken seriously.

Well, I can't quite remember what the packaging said, but it was the same 
as the US version except that there were no English Subtitles and the 
Japanese subtitles were throughout the movie, including the Phillip 
Jefferies scene. I don't believe that it was letterboxed, but the 
packaging is a lot different than the US packaging and it has a 2 minute 
trailer for FWWM at the end. 

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From: jeffwm@dorsai.com (jeffrey Mintz)
Subject: explanations
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy, New York's Computer Consulate. +1.718.729.5018
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:18:34 GMT

It has become sylish to knock D.Lynch and Twin Peaks.....just as
it was sylish to be a 'Peaks Freak'.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo)
Subject: Re: On the Air/Alphabet
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 16:34:06 GMT

In article <C09I7v.Lux@world.std.com> fuzzbox@world.std.com (U.F.Orb) writes:
>giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:

>(OTA Stuff deleted...)

>>3 episodes aired in Boston, and apparently 7 were completed.  No
>
>What part of Boston do you live in? Only 2 were shown in *My* Boston.
>The third was pre-empted for some kind of beauty paegeant....
Sorry I must have watched in on WMUR from Manchester, NH that
week. (normally I watch WCVB in Boston)... or maybe it was moved
to some other time that week or delayed by a week, I really don't remember.  
Definitely 3 episodes nonetheless.

Rocky Giovinazzo
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: space@wixer.cactus.org (space)
Subject: info please
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 06:21:46 GMT


i'm trying to make some sense out of my fractured tp video collection, and
would like to ask a favor.. could someone email [or post] the following?

total count of episodes [we assume the pilot is #0]
airdates for the above

thanks... on the star trek areas, there is always someone nicely obsessive
who knows all this sort of thing, so i'm hoping to find a friendly type
who'll send me the same sort of info re tp. thanks again..

space [no silly box at end]
From: traveler@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: 2nd season -- on Japanese laserdisc?
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:05:04 GMT
Reply-To: traveler
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4


	I gather from one of the postings I just read that season
2 has not been released on videotape yet (I didn't think so--
one of my Peaks freak friends would probably have told me).
But I'm hearing a lot about the laserdiscs, particularly the
Japanese  set.  Does that set include the 2nd season episodes?
I would greatly appreciate this information.

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From: mj1078@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp (mmanuel pece)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: 2nd season -- on Japanese laserdisc?
Date: 22 Dec 92 07:44:40 GMT
Organization: Kyushu Institute of Tech., Iizuka, JAPAN.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp
In-reply-to: traveler@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu's message of 22 Dec 92 01:05:04 GMT

In article <38002@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> traveler@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu writes:

	   I gather from one of the postings I just read that season
   2 has not been released on videotape yet (I didn't think so--
   one of my Peaks freak friends would probably have told me).
   But I'm hearing a lot about the laserdiscs, particularly the
   Japanese  set.  Does that set include the 2nd season episodes?
   I would greatly appreciate this information.
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Yes. The whole series is avaiable in laserdisc in Japan.
The pilot (probably the euroversion) is also in LD.

Manuel, in Japan but without LD player
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: The sites and such
From: aed005@marshall.wvnet.edu
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:17:24 -0500
Organization: Marshall University

In article <E1FD0842002001AE@TUDOBM.TUDELFT.NL>, C.G.C.vanDijk@IO.TUDelft.NL writes:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Coming march I am planning to make a tour around the northwest,
> something like Seattle-Yellowstone-Salt Lake City-SF-Seattle.  Could
> somebody be so kind to:
> 
> - repost the info of the TP locations, and how to get there (I saw this
>   on this list a long time ago, and I couldn't find a FAQ now).
Well, two towns around there to look for on the map are Snoqualmie and Falls
City.  This is where most of the scenes are shot.

> 
> - give some indication of the weather conditions that I can expect in
>   Seattle and Yellowstone around march.
Probably pretty dreary, but then Seattle normally is.

And in the event that you're a Northern Exposure fan, the town of Roslyn is
fairly close to those two.  Also, some NX shots are done in the Seattle suburb
of Redmond (home of Microsoft.)
From: traveler@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks Primer?
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:52:41 GMT
Reply-To: traveler
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

In article <17502@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes...
>A month or two ago, our campus movie theater showed Fire Walk With Me.
>It was a moderate success -- but what surprised me was the vast number of
>non-Peaks-freaks who went to see it.  Many of the people in the audience
>had never seen the show before... and even expressed an interest in seeing
>the series afterwards.
> 
>So, as a result, I've been organizing a series of "Peaks Parties" on campus,
>running through the series in order, with coffee and donuts and plenty of

Wow!  I'm inspired to see that I'm not the only one doing this!

I and a friend who is a fellow Peaker started a small Peaks-
Florida.  There are usually about 6 or 7 people at our Wednesday
night showings; we do two episodes a week.  We've stopped for
the holidays, but will resume in January; we have only a few
more weeks to go, then we'll finish with "Fire Walk WIth Me"
(which should be out by then).

I don't know if I could tell you what scenes to include in your
"primer"...you'd have to decide how long you'd want it to be,
and whether or not you would be, say, stopping it periodically
and explaining things to people.  Just try to include a balance
of the characters and elements that make TP what it is...some
humor, some mystical/surreal stuff, some scary/horror stuff,
and something about the different plotlines (the Coop investigation,
the "teen crowd"--Audrey, Donna, James, Maddie, Bobby, etc.--
the Ben-Katherine-Josie wheeling and dealing, and OF COURSE the
Bob stuff!).

One question: can anyone tell me if there is/are any major TP
fan club(s) in existence?  When the series was fighting for
survival in season 2 I was briefly involved with something called
C.O.O.P.--Citizens Opposing the Offing of Peaks--but I haven't
heard anything out of them since the cancellation.  With all the
people out there intrigued by the show, there must be a national
group--if not more than one.

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