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From: trones@dxcern.cern.ch (Jostein Lodve Trones)
Subject: WC94 Oceania please?
Keywords: WC94, Oceania group
Reply-To: trones@dxcern.cern.ch (Jostein Lodve Trones)
Organization: CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:07:23 GMT


Has anybody out there got the up-to-date table for the Oceania Group?
I belive they played some matches the 25/09/92, but I didn't get the
results.
Oops, I see now that they even play a couple of matches to day, 09/10/92.
So I guess I will see some postings soon anyway.
(But I will post this anyway, just to see my name out there..)


Thanks!
Jostein Trones
trones@dxcern.cern.ch
From: ulick@schubert.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Team USA in World Cup '94
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:41:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct16.164148.12359
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <1992Oct16.150235.5125@europa.asd.contel.com> andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
>
>Wait a minute.
>
>The last I heard was that FIFA would not allow any games to be played on
>artificial surfaces.  Detroit is still going to grow(or try to grow) the
>grass indoors.  But the US and FIFA know that this risky so they have
>chosen alternate sites in case the grass does not take.  I still think
>this is way to big a gamble to take but our guroos of grass say that it
>can be done.

Can someone explain why the Pontica Silerdome was chosen in the first place?
I would have thought that Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor, which had a record 
crowd of almost 107,000 last weekend would be a better choice in the Detroit
area.


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From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Subject: Re: Parma
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 14:13:09 GMT

In article <9210081922.AA28121@garnet.berkeley.edu> shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:
>With Asprilla playing, does that mean that Brolin is sitting on
>the stands?  Is he injured or has Asprilla just beaten him
>out for the job?  

Brolin is out recovering from an injury, and Parma, as well as the
Swedish national team, are anxiously waiting for his return.

Marco...
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From: 8888cc06@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (B Mohanarangan)
Subject: <TICKETS FOR WORLD CUP'94
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Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
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Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:10:00 GMT
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish Football Mourns Ibrox Legend
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:06:41 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND

Rangers legend Willie Waddell, former player, manager, general manager and
vice-chairman of the club, died after a heart attack in a Glasgow Hospital.
He was 71. Nicknamed `Deedle', he made his Rangers debut in August 1938 and
scored the winner against Arsenal at Ibrox. He was a brilliant right winger
and his partnership with Willie Thornton formed one of the most lethal
spearheads in Scottish Football. He won every domestic honour and played 17
times for Scotland. He was the man who masterminded the rebuilding of Ibrox
after the disaster in 1971 when 66 people died, and the ground today is a
tribute to his foresight. He guided Rangers to the Cup-Winners Cup in 1972
when they beat Moscow Dynamo in Barcelona then quit to become general
manager, then vice chairman and finally an honourary director of the club.

--
Scott Jackson
Spider Systems Limited
Edinburry
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From: mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa)
Subject: Re: CONCACAF Champions Cup (aka American Airlines Cup) finals
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:21:54 GMT


*********UPDATE**********UPDATE***********UPDATE**********UPDATE********

 America of Mexico and Alajuelense of Costa Rica will meet in the final
 of the CONCACAF Champions cup.

 ***********************************************************************

 Miguel Figueroa
 UT-San Antonio
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From: newbery@zonda.atd.ucar.edu (Santiago Newbery)
Subject: Argentine league results (weeks 9 & 10)
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:09:05 GMT

week 9
=======
          Argentinos Jr.      0         Boca Jr.            1
          San Lorenzo         3         Rosario Central     0
          Lanus               1         Estudiantes (LP)    0
          Talleres (Cba.)     0         Independiente       0
          Mandiyu (Corr.)     2         Dvo. Espa#ol        1
          Platense            0         San Martin (Tuc.)   0
          Racing              0         Belgrano (Cba.)     1
          Gimnasia (LP)       0         Velez Sarfield      1
          Newell's Old Boys   2         Huracan             0
          River Plate         2         Ferrocarril Oeste   1

make-ups
          Belgrano (Cba.)     2         San Martin (Tuc.)   2
	  Rosario Central     2         Newell's Old Boys   1

----------------------------------------------------------------------
week 10
========
Boca Jr. won the perennial classic this time, played at Boca stadium.
The lone goal was scored by Martinez at the 50' mark.
Hernan Diaz of River missed a penalty kick, which was deflected
to the corner, by Boca goalie Montoya.

Boca Jr                       1    River Plate                   0
Ferrocarril Oeste             2    Newell's Old Boys             0
Huracan                       2    Gimnasia y Esgrima LP         1
Velez Sarfield                0    Racing                        1
Belgrano (Cba.)               1    Platense                      2
San Martin (Tuc.)             3    Dep. Mandiyu                  1
Dep. Espa#ol                  5    Talleres (Cba.)               0
Independiente                 0    Lanus                         1
Estudiantes                   0    San Lorenzo de Almagro        1
Rosario Central               1    Argentinos Jr.                1

Points
=======
Boca                                                   16
River, San Lorenzo                                     13
Rosario, San Martin *^                                 11
Velez~, Huracan, Belgrano, Talleres, Mandiyu, 
Argentinos, Lanus, Ferro                               10
Racing, Independiente, Espa#ol *                        9
Platense                                                7
Estudiantes *, Gimnasia *                               6
Newell's                                                4

                         
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From: jkhodada@eng.auburn.edu (Jay M Khodadadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Soccer on SportSouth (Prime)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:56:46 GMT
Reply-To: jkhodada@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

For some reason, no soccer will be shown this evening.

Next week  on Tuesday evening (10/20/92), look for:

	Ipswich vs. Leeds Utd. at 9 p.m. EST

on  10/27/92:

	Everton vs. Cov. City at 9 p.m. EST

according to SportSouth programming Dept.
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From: cixc0000@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Karyn Nelson)
Subject: Scottish Results?
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:25:15 GMT

Can someone post the Scottish results from wed 7th please.

McEwan's Lager - Alive and Kicking.

Glad I'm not a Celtic fan or my name would be : <blank>
From: srd@ukc.ac.uk (S.R.Davies)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Blackburn Rovers News wanted - Roy Wegerle
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:55:02 GMT
Reply-To: srd@ukc.ac.uk (S.R.Davies)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <1992Oct8.123152.17402@europa.asd.contel.com> andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
>
>> I'm not an English League expert but in the past week Roy has gotten his
>> first two starts and has produced three goals.  What I want to know is did
>> he get the starts because of an injury or in Blackburn trying a new lineup?
>

	I believe he was kept out of the team by the good playing form of
 Newell. He started his first game (FA Prem. Lge vs. Norwich) because of
 an injury to Newell, and he scored two goals. He kept his place in the team
 for the next match (Coca-Cola (League) Cup), in which he also scored, but
 I don't know if he kept his place for that match because of someone else's
 injury, or because of his own good performance vs. Norwich.

	Regards, Steve.
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From: waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach)
Subject: USA - Canada, result
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:22:58 GMT

USA 0 - Canada 0

Taken from the Washington Post without permission:
-------------------------------------------------

    The US national soccer team outshot Canada 16-6, but ended in a scoreless
tie last night in Greensboro, NC.

    Jean Harbor (Tampa Bay Rowdies), playing in his first game for the US
since becoming a citizen, led the offense with four shots and came closest
to scoring. He took a cross from MF Cobi Jones and headed the ball from eight
yards in the 84', but GK Cragi Forrest (Ipswich Town) collected one of his
seven saves. 

    "Canada is a very physical team, very tough," US coach Milutinovic
said. "They were ready...We just didn't finish our chances. We have to work
on that."

    The US has scored two goals in its last eight matches, those coming in
its previous match, a 0-2 win over Canada on 9/3. The US team plays
Saudi Arabia on Thursday in Riyadh to open the first Intercontinental
Champions Cup.


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From: bhag@etnxb.eua.ericsson.se (Boerge Haga 2634)
Subject: (spoiler) England - Norway WC94 QUAL.
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AS, Oslo, Norway
Distribution: rec.sport.soccer
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:11:13


ENGLAND - NORWAY 1-1 (0-0)

Wembley Stadium, London
Att: 51441

Goals: 1-0 David Platt (56), 1-1 Kjetil Rekdal (77)

England (4-4-2): Woods, Dixon (90, Palmer), Adams, Walker, Pearce, Batty
                 Gascoigne, Platt, Ince, Shearer, Wright (68, Merson)

Norway (4-5-1):  Thorstvedt, Pedersen (22, Berg), Bratseth, Nilsen, 
                 Bjoernebye, Halle, Mykland, (78, Flo), Rekdal, Ingebrigtsen,
                 Jakobsen, Soerloth

Yellow card: Gunnar Halle, Norway
             Paul Ince & Paul Gascoigne, England

Referee:     Arturo Brizio Carter, Mexico


I guess the immediate comment from the Norwegian coach Egil "Drillo" Olsen
pretty much sums it up:
" We were lucky against a better opponent "
Another comment from E. Olsen: " All of us who has been interested in soccer
and seen a lot of matches know that some matches ends with one team gaining
a point because of luck. Today it was our turn to have the luck on our side,
which also is something new in norwegian soccer"
Yet another comment:" Before the first match against San Marino I said that
uor chances for reaching WC94 is 25%. Now after gaining 7 of 8 possible points
I will say the chances have reached over 30%"

My comment:
England scored once on their many chances, while Norway scored once on their
few chances. Scoring goals is what soccer is all about, isn't it.
This match clearly showed how important Rune Bratseth is for the Norwegian
team. Gazza and Shearer just couldn't get trought him (well, Shearer did once).
I guess the english newspaper which renamed Bratseth to "spoiled brat" has
to think again.
I feel sorry for Graham Taylor. I guess he will be butchered in the English
newspapers today. But England played very well, the only problem being that
they couldn't convert their chances into goals. 
Erik "the viking" Thorstvedt managed to keep the statistics. He has never
lost a match on Wembley !!!
--
Boerge Haga
Ericsson AS, Norway
e-mail:etnbhag@etnxb.eua.ericsson.se
From: manuel@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Manuel Balmaseda)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: UEFA DISGRACE: RE: Leeds v Stuttgart
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:01:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct14.220111.2999
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

Can anybody tell me what was the result of the game in Barcelona.  I know
Leeds advanced to the next round but what happened in Spain.

manuel
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From: yerkess@yerkle.enet.dec.com (Phil Yerkess)
Subject: Request for Italian result?
Reply-To: yerkess@yerkle.enet.dec.com (Phil Yerkess)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, REO
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:37:58 GMT


Can anyone please post the score for Fc Verona and Ascoli Calcio game from
last weekend?

Thanks in advance

Phil.
From: cadorin@nebin.cica.fr (Mauro Cadorin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Request for Italian result?
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:38:59 GMT
Organization: Telecom Paris, France

FC Verona - Ascoli   1-0   (Prytz  ?)
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From: t8914229@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: RE. SOUNESS THE GREAT SATEN VOL 2
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:26:37 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

a recent posting (29/9/92) by "SHUGHES@ESTEC.BITNET".
SUBJECT: Souness The Great Saten Vol 2
========

to quote:

"So the Liverpool board gave Graham Sourface a vote of confidence, that
sounds like Graham Soonoff will be getting the sack in the next two
weeks.  Ha Ha Graham Somemess better find your next team who of course will
be "The biggest club in Britain".  So sad for the "man with the pinned back
lugs".
So Graham Penis prepare yourself for an occurance that you are all to familiar
with its RED CARD time!"

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firstly, spell the great man's name correctly.
secondly, it will be two weeks in a few days.  why hasn't he been sacked yet
suck face?????
"pinned back lugs"????? - really, what is it?????
".....Graham Penis (?????) ....."
      (what's this supposed to mean?????  are you comparing yours with his?
       well, he has the GREATEST looks and body in the whole world.  sorry
       to make you even more jealous.)

	LIVERPOOL F.C. RULES THE WORLD FOREVER AND EVER
	GRAEME SOUNESS RULES ALL MANAGERS
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From: baustad@idt.unit.no (Jostein Baustad)
Subject: Re: English News: Tuesday (Cup) results
Reply-To: baustad@idt.unit.no (Jostein Baustad)
Organization: The Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 10:34:16 GMT

In article <13022@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown) writes:
|> 
|> GRIMSBY TOWN      2-1 QPR
|> Watson 56             Bailey 68
|> Woods 81
|> 

QPR wins 6-5 on penalties since none of the teams were able to get a goal in
the extra time. QPR won 2-1 at Lofthus Road two weeks ago.

A bit of luck, but we're through to the next round!

Jostein
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From: paddyr@spider.co.uk (Paddy Ruddy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: England result
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:08:02 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Oct16.084959.28524@spider.co.uk> scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.004856.18153@news.Hawaii.Edu> oldham@jach.hawaii.edu writes:
>>
>>ENGLAND 1-1 NORWAY
>>
>>Platt glanced in a Stuart Pearce free-kick. Gazza lasted the 90 mins
>>and played very well. England dominated and conceded a 'silly goal'.
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Must be the first time I've heard a 25 yard Buddy Holly described as a `silly
>goal'. If you had told Chris Woods where it was going before it was hit he
>still wouldn't have got it!
>
>And the over-weight, over-rated Gasgoine should have been sent off.

Come on now Scott. Anyone can see that Gasgoine is the most talented
player Britain has produced in at least the last decade.

>
>-- 
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> Scotland                    fitba' - a striker who could score a goal!!"

paddy

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From: laag@solan.unit.no (Steinar L}g)
Subject: Re: England result
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:19:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.004856.18153@news.Hawaii.Edu>, oldham@jach.hawaii.edu writes:
 > 
 > ENGLAND 1-1 NORWAY
 > 
 > Platt glanced in a Stuart Pearce free-kick. Gazza lasted the 90 mins
 > and played very well. England dominated and conceded a 'silly goal'.
 > 
 > (This sketchy info was from a short but expensive phone call back home)
 > 
 > Cheers
 > 
 >              Graeme.
I agree that England dominated, and Norway had some luck this time, but it is
not fair to describe Rekdal's dream shot as a 'silly goal'.
Counting chances, England won this match something like 10-2, but luckily 
(for Norway) the only valid measure in this sport is GOALS.(And thanks for that!)
Gazza was probably the best player on the field, very impressing since he has
played very little after his injury.

Congratulations to Poland and Switzerland, for their draws against Italy and Holland.
I love that the smaller fotball-nations are causing problems for the giants.

Steinar 

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From: Juergen.Schaepker@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Juergen Schaepker)
Subject: German 2.Bundesliga Hannover-Duisburg
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:13:50 GMT

The last game of round 17:

Hannover 96 - MSV Duisburg  2:1
1:0 Heisig
1:1 Notthoff
2:1 Daschner

Duisburg now 3rd, 26:15, 23-11
Hannover 12th, 27:26, 17-17

Freiburg leads with 4 points ahead of Duisburg and Fortuna Koeln.

Bye
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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Re: RTL-4
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:06:34 GMT

In <1992Oct14.143302.11683@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>This is a message for all Dutchmen who like soccer:
>The next 4 years the home-matches of Oranje will be broadcast on RTL-4.
>That means: poor camera-performance and an even worse commentator:

>HANS KRAAY (Pronounce: Hans Cry)

This guy really got to me last night. Every time the ball went near the 
Polish goal he started shouting "This is it!, this is it, here it comes!!!!!",
only for the Dutch forward to miss :-(. I eventually turned off the sound.

BTW when was the last time Bergkamp missed that many chances ?????????

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From: efsv09@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Cheating
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:16:54 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Edinburgh University

I find it impossible to believe that Stutgart made a legitimate mistake.
Perhaps some German fans out on the net can tell me if the UEFA law on
foreigners has not really been spoken of much, but I know for a fact
that this sort of mistake would never happen in Scotland, because
everybody is aware of the rule and the problems it causes Scottish
sides, particularly Rangers. I really can't bring myself to believe that
for a full fortnight of preparation the manager of Stutgart did not
notice that he had 4 foreigners in his squad. Leeds Utd should without
doubt have ben awarded the tie, and I only hope that justice is done
tonight. I also believe that if Leeds do win then Rangers will progress
to the last eight for the first time in 5 years.

                               James
From: 31mianowski@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Holland - Poland
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:59:49 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <19921013.154426941986.NETNEWS@ALIJKU11>, kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans) writes:
> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>>Here the expected Dutch lineup for the game against Poland tomorrow
>>(= Wednesday) in Rotterdam:
>>
>>[...deleted...]
>>
>>And the expected result: 2-0
> Agree :-)
>>

2-0 my foot!
You're both dreamers!

>>--
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>>-    in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           -
> Don't Ajax and Feyenoord (and Sparta and Utrecht) play in red and white as
> well? :-) (That is, at the few occasions that they wear their official colours
> instead of something to please their shirt sponsor or whoever they think to
> please :-(
>>
> Groeten,
> Karel
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