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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 29 Sep 1992 13:30:04 EDT
From: (((ZERO))) <IO00844@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio,rec.audio,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Availability of CD+G discs for CDTV etc. List??

I just ordered a Commodore CDTV last Sunday. Since it is capable of playing
not only compact discs, but also the compact discs out there with video
images on them (CD+G) I was wondering if anyone had in their possession any
CD+G titles? (The symbol "CD+G" usually marked somewhere on the disc or disc
cover?).
What I'd like to do is get a list of as many CD+G titles available so i can
have something to choose from.

Here is a list from the Nov. 91 issue of Info. Magazine #44

Alphaville "Breathtaking Blue"  Atlantic
Laura Branigan "Laura Branagan" Atlantic
Ella Fitzgerald "Ella/Things Ain't What They Used to Be" Sire
Flamin' Groovies "Groovies' Greatest Grooves" Sire
Fleetwood Mac "Behind the Mask" Warner
Emmylou Harris "Pieces of the Sky" Reprise
Jimi Hendrix "Smash Hits" Reprise          ***Supposed to be Great CD+G

Information Society "Information Society" Tommy Boy
Chris Isaak "Silvertone" Warner
Little Feat "Hoy, Hoy" Warner
Little Feat "Representing the Mambo"      ***Supposed to be GREAT CD+G
Van Dyke Parks "Tokyo Rose"
Gram Parsons "GP/Grievous Angel"
Bonnie Raitt "Green Light"
Bonnie Raitt "Nine Lives"
Lou Reed "New York"
Vaious Artists "Woody Guthrie Tribute"
Bach "St. Matthew Passion"
Beethoven "String Quartet No. 14"
"""       "Symphony No. 7"
"""/Liszt "  ""     No. 9"
Anton Bruckner "    No. 9"
Gustav Holst "The planets"      ***Supposed to be Excellent
Gustav Mahler "Symphony No. 5"
Felix Mendelssohn "     No. 3"
Mozart "Abduction from Seraglio"
Henry Purcell "Dido and Aeneas"


Rare CD+G titles:

Anita Baker "Rapture"
Crosby Stills & Nash "Live it up"
Frozen Ghost "A Nice place to visit"
Honeymoon Suite "Racing after Midnight"
Simply Red "Picture Book"
Phoebe Snow "Something REal"
Donna Summer "Another place and Time"
Talking Heads "Naked"
10,000 Maniacs "Blind Mans Zoo"



Have you got any other CD+G discs on your possession? Let me know.
Heard of any others?
Are companies more likely to ad CD+G to more compact discs now that there
is a somewhat more affordable way to see the images?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re:  MOD.X-Centric (5/5)
From: zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms)
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:54:41 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: The .SIG research Department, General Enquiries Office

In article <67086@cup.portal.com> Brian_-_Dziki@cup.portal.com writes:
>I have seen many cases where files are translated to their ASCII code.
>Is there a program (for the Amiga) that will convert this back to thier
>original format? If so where can I get this program?   


Yes, it's called UUdecode, I have a copy of it here, but I couldn't send it
to you cause you need the program to decode it! :) sigh...

Cheers,
Grant (aka Zoltar/Silent Imperium)


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From: cm182s182@pdrome.UUCP (Clayton Miner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re:  MOD.X-Centric (5/5)
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:59:11 GMT
Organization: The PowerDrome BBS [(716)825-3614 Excelsior]
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.960

It there an FTP site where this programme can be found?  Is it on any of the 
Fish disks?
 
Skeksis
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: UUcoding ( was Re: MOD.X-Centric (5/5))
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 00:36:44 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rene Walter) writes:

> Now about UUdecode. I have an Amiga UUdecode (though I mostly use a unix
> version). I've also heard that it is possible to mail binary files (with
> E-Mail). If someone can tell me how and needs UUdecode badly (and there
> won't be too much requests) then I will be so kind to mail it.

In a word, DON'T

Most usenet mail/news items pass thorugh mainframes at some point on
their journey.

A lot of mainframes can only handle 7-bit mail/news items, and
additionally have size limitations on the size of individual
messages. ( Usually 64k or thereabouts )

UUcoding was developed to convert 8-bit binaries to 7-bit form
so that they could be posted as news or mail.
In addition, UUcoding breaks the binary into "segments" which can pass
through the net with being truncated.

UUcoding is not machine specific, therefore any machine can decode
a UUcoded file back to it's original form.
( I have UUdecoders on this site for Amiga, Atari, Mac and IBM machines.
  Additionally, there are UUcoders available for UNIX, C64 and Archemedes
  which I know about, and I suspect there are others. )

People who don't have a UUcoder for the Amiga should ask around -
someone locally will be able to UUdecode files for them.

It does not matter what type of machine does the UUdecoding.
As an example, I will UUdecode files on my Atari at this site
for Amiga users on request. The site is run on an IBM, and I store
files for all machine types without problems.

(There was a UUdecoder posted last week in alt.sys.amiga.uucp.patches,
 however it was UUcoded. A catch-22 situation :)



dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
From: renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rene Walter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: MOD.X-Centric (5/5)
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:49:27 GMT

Well, let me make some thing clear...
I've called it MOD.X-Centric, but there's more in the LhA file than just
the mod. The module isn't integrated in the demo, but can be loaded directly
into ...tracker (it was made on ProTracker V1.1B).

Now about UUdecode. I have an Amiga UUdecode (though I mostly use a unix
version). I've also heard that it is possible to mail binary files (with
E-Mail). If someone can tell me how and needs UUdecode badly (and there
won't be too much requests) then I will be so kind to mail it.

NOTE: I don't promise anything. It all depends on the time I have and
the like.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.audio:3514 rec.audio:13248 comp.sys.amiga.misc:14596
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio,rec.audio,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Availability of CD+G discs for CDTV etc. List??
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 17:55:31 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <wfaust.08nm@venus.adsp.sub.org>

>
>Sorry, the CD+G list is FAAAAAR from being complete. There are
>far more than 100 CG+G titles available. Sure, they are rare, but
>all you have to search for is a CD dealer who also deals with
>japanese CD's. There is a dealer here in Germany who distributes
>them... sure, they are expensive... but you can get them at
>least...
>
>CD+G CD's are well known in japan.
>
>-- 
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>Germany                  CompuServe: 100022,2543
>Tel: (+49)69 5486556           FIDO: 2:249/3.5
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Wolf... are the Japanese CD+G titles the Karoke ones which simply
play the music and scroll the lyrics on the screen in CD+G format?
Yes there are zillions of those. The one the original poster was
talking about are the ones published in the USA by Warner New
Media (Division of Warner Bros. Records (subsidary co. of Time-Warner
Co.) whose CD+G titles go far beyond simple lyric scrolls in that
they use all kinds of wild graphics to "illustrate" the music.
Many of the WNM discs also include lyrics... some of them, especially
the classical titles, use different CD+G channels to show graphics,
or comment about the music as it plays, and so on. (I wrote the
article in .info magazine he was referring to, and WNM sent me
a number of their better CD+G titles to check out & review).

I haven't been keeping upu with Karoke discs at all.. do they do
any interesting graphical stuff yet? The few that I saw last year
were just simple lyric scrolls on screen.
If you own or have access to a CDTV you really owe it to yourself
to get your hands on WNM's Holst: The Planets CD+G. It's nothing
short of amazing and easily the best I've seen.

Harv
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.audio:3493 comp.sys.amiga.applications:7449
From: ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PD Music program w/staff, notes, etc.?
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:19:07 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <1992Sep29.062329.25622@athena.mit.edu> fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei) writes:
>Hi, is there a PD music composing program which uses bars/staff notation?
>Something like Music Construction Set, but anything simple will do as long
>as it can imitate four voice piano!
>
>Thanks,
>-Francis


Without wanting to start a war, I know that OctaMed does bars/stave notation.

EthaStorm  *8)
From: cg82s85@instem.uucp (Chris Golchert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Surround Amiga
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.960
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:16:31 EDT
Organization: The Institution - Chesterfield Twp. MI

Has anyone out there hooked up their surround sound decoders to their Amigas 
and does it do anything, Pro-Logic or the early stuff.  I read somewhere that 
it will rip the sounds to the different directions (a heap of BS or not?)  If 
it does are there actually any programs out there intentionally written in 
Surround and wouldn't Dolby be involved?
From: Brian_-_Dziki@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: MOD.X-Centric (5/5)
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 92 19:48:49 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I have seen many cases where files are translated to their ASCII code.
Is there a program (for the Amiga) that will convert this back to thier
original format? If so where can I get this program?
From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: FTP adress wanted
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:36:45 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <1a61pmINNgpt@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) writes:
>
>I have lost the adress of one of the FTP sites that have one of the more
>complete net available MODs files. 
>It was something that had like  .....brad.uk or something like that ...
>
>
>thanks for any reply
>	

The site name is ftp.brad.ac.uk
and the mods are in misc/mods
Have fun walter

My friend

U4ia of Megawatts
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: xnybpf01@serss0 (Brian P Feeny)
Subject: Re: XOR USERS READ ME
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:01:40 GMT

In article <EemQq2K00Uh7A39YIJ@andrew.cmu.edu> bc2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brian T Cheek) writes:
>If anyone has Xor profile problems, write to me.
>Personally, Xor will not download M1 or TG-77 banks to my synths (or get
>them either.)
>I will compile a list and pass it on to Dr. T.
>-Brian :)


	I have had XOR work successfully with the M1, just not in the last 
case I tried.  If you cant even get XOR to take the M! sounds and store 
them, and then send them back to the synbth, then maybe its setup wrong.

The problem I was having was having XOR recognize some sounds I got off the net.

Assuming your M1 profile is setup properly.  Make sure that the MIDI GLOBAL 
parameters allow for sending and recievingof all data (ENA=ENABLED).  The
also make sure that your M1 has its protect offf so that you can send the patches back to it
back to it.

Also, in the profile, your switcher info should be 0 or - where applicable.

I am using XOR on the ST.

					Brian
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From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: A proposal for an Amiga midi card
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:28:54 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <ALANB.92Sep24164603@swordfish.sdl.mdcbbs.com>, alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins) writes:
>> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au said:
>
>>         I was digging through some elctronics magazines I have, and
>> came across one from last year which had a midi card kit for PC's as
>> a feature article. Knowing nothing about the PC bus, and almost
>> nothing about the Zorro 2 bus, I was wondering just how hard it
>> would be to re-engineer the kit onto a Zorro 2 card.
>>         Where am I leading? How about a Midi card for Amigas which
>> has an on-board processor for functions like mapping particular midi
>> chanels to particular midi OUT ports (devices set for chanels 1-4
>> don't need to know about messages on chanels 5-16), real time
>> remapping of one type of message to another type (pitch bend to
>> volume), etc.
>
> Knowing nothing about the card, and not much about Zorro, I don't know,
> but I suspect that this is much less necessary on the Amiga than the
> PC (under DOS or Windows) because of the better multi-tasking. The market
> for a dedicated processor would be small, so that card would be expensive
> compared with just getting a faster Amiga (assuming your current one can't
> handle everything you want to do).

        It's not the Amiga that's the bottleneck. It's the amount of
midi traffic, and the fact that every midi message gets sent to every
midi device. Multi-tasking doesn't have any effect on the problem because
the needless data repetition is outside the Amiga, not inside. I know
that there are dedicated midi devices to do exactly what I'm talking
about, but the last thing I want is another box (more power, more cables,
"more links in the chain", etc) sitting on my desk, or in a rack.

        There was a Zorro2 multi-serial card project in Amazing Computing
about 2-3 years ago. That might be a reasonable starting point to begin
from.

           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
                    DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
             Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From:  jvm@medicine.msk.su (Savitsky Vladimir Vladimirovich)
Subject: Question about sound boards
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:04:32 GMT
Reply-To: jvm@medicine.msk.su
Organization: Independent Research Company J.V. Medicine Inc.

     One small  Russian company is highly interested in
any information  about dealers  which are  selling  the
computer sound  boards and  MIDI interface  boards  for
IBM-compatible  hardware like MT-32, Pro  Audio, AdLib,
SoundBlaster etc. If anybody can send  us addresses and
names of these companies, we would be very thankfully.
     Also we  would rather  prefer the German companies
but any information will be appreciated.  Please  write
us to address jvm@medicine.msk.su.

     It's our  first letter  into  this  conference  so
sorry for possible misunderstanding


     With great respect       V. Savitsky
From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Arexx and audio.device
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:50:29 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia


        Does audio.device support Arexx? What I want to be able to do
is send data to the sound chip from multiple applications, using
Arexx (since Arexx is an established data transfer mechanism). I want
to do it this way because there are applications available which support
Arexx, but not audio.device . This method has other potential advantages
such as individual applications not locking each other out from
audio.device while multitasking.

        If this is not currently possible, some sort of indirect audio
data passing and control between aplications and the sound chip would
be useful, especially in a multimedia environment. Would it really
be that hard to include this sort of mechanism into AmigaDos in the
not too distant future?


           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
                    DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
             Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: AudioMaster4 vs. DSS?
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:41:39 GMT

In article <cm182s182.0558@pdrome.UUCP>, cm182s182@pdrome.UUCP (Clayton Miner) writes:
> I too purchased one of the Audio Engineer samplers and I have been very 
> satisfied with it!  The amount of shielding on the casing makes it a lot 
> easier to position the digiizer closer to the computer with having to wory 
> about excessive interferance from the monitor which *was* a big problem with 
> the Aegis Sound Master that I had borrowed until the Audio Engineer arrived.
>  
I called 3 major mailorder houses in the US and asked about this unit
but no one had ever heard of it. Who carries it?
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From: cpage@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Christopher John Page)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Help : Propacker
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:23:08 GMT
Organization: /etc/organisation


I have heard recently that ProPacker has become available and it contains a
very efficient source code for the player. Does anyone know of this and if so,
is it available at any FTP sites?

cpage@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au
From: bc2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brian T Cheek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: XOR USERS READ ME
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:53:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EemQq2K00Uh7A39YIJ
Organization: Misc. student, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

If anyone has Xor profile problems, write to me.
Personally, Xor will not download M1 or TG-77 banks to my synths (or get
them either.)
I will compile a list and pass it on to Dr. T.
-Brian :)
From: Eric_H_Gieseke@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Eric H Gieseke)
Subject: Re: Particular features in sample player wanted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.24b beta (Sep 26 1992)
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:44:31 CDT
Organization: The Flying Circus BBS, San Antonio, TX


I know of one program t hat is ideal for trigering internal samples on the
Amiga..A-Drums...which is over 6 years old,and I use to use it Just for
that reason(DJing) and got pretty good results! It can hold I beleive 32
samples on different Keys..and is slightly simular to tracker editing,but
the screen scrolls horizontally and there are no effects..other than that
its decent for Drumtracks ect..if you can live with its age...
Lates!S.W.   
               *Amiga...my musical chainsaw.

*SideWinder the Camel Jockey Extrordinaire*
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: mortene@Lise.Unit.NO (Morten Eriksen)
Subject: Re: ...Whatever happened to...?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 12:33:45 GMT

How about Tim Follin? IMHO, the greatest C64-musician. The titletrack for Led
Storm was probably the greatest C64-tune in a game ever. I've heard rumours that
he composed the music for Ghouls'n'Ghosts on the Amiga (haven't heard it though),
but after that I haven't seen his name in any production.

Morten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: torl@ifi.uio.no (Tor Linl|kken)
Subject: MIDI-bank-transfere to D50
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:47:57 GMT
Originator: torl@maud.ifi.uio.no


I have downloaded some banks to my Roland D50.
------------------------------------------------
Where do I find the program to transfere them??? (on the Amiga)
------------------------------------------------

I have loaded the banks into X-oR (synth-ed) but most of the sounds
crashes...

 

Tor Linl|kken
--------------
torl@ifi.uio.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: judd@wilkinson.cs.colorado.edu (Stephen Judd)
Subject: Noise in that thar' line
Summary: The dreaded line noise
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:17:33 GMT

I am having a lot of fun with DSS, but I seem to have some problems with
noise.  There are two types of noise that I am getting.  The first is a little
buzz which causes the wave amplitude to jump around +/- 2 or 3.  That is not
a big deal, though, as it tends to get wiped out by the source. 

The second type, though, is a much bigger deal.  It reminds me of recording
to tape, where you get a bunch of high frequency hissing.  It occurs on
playback, and it is fairly noticeable, especially in lower volume sources.

So I am wondering what might cause these things.  In fact, I am wondering if
people would share their knowledge on possible sources of any sort of noise
in the line.  My particular noise seems to be coming from either the digitizer
or the Amiga itself.  I tried grounding the digitizer to the stereo ground but
that seemed to make things worse.  So I am at a loss.

By the way, my setup is an A500 about four years old now, 1 meg.

Finally, would anybody be interested in a mini-review of DSS from someone
who has used nothing else?

Gracias,
					-Steve
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judd@colorado.edu   //    These aren't the droids you're looking for.
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From: wfaust@venus.adsp.sub.org (Wolf Faust)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio,rec.audio,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Availability of CD+G discs for CDTV etc. List??
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:29:19 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <92273.133004IO00844@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO00844@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (((ZERO))) writes:

>What I'd like to do is get a list of as many CD+G titles available so i can
>have something to choose from.
>
>Here is a list from the Nov. 91 issue of Info. Magazine #44

Sorry, the CD+G list is FAAAAAR from being complete. There are
far more than 100 CG+G titles available. Sure, they are rare, but
all you have to search for is a CD dealer who also deals with
japanese CD's. There is a dealer here in Germany who distributes
them... sure, they are expensive... but you can get them at
least...

CD+G CD's are well known in japan.

-- 
Wolf Faust                 Internet: wfaust@aurea.hotb.sub.org
Germany                  CompuServe: 100022,2543
Tel: (+49)69 5486556           FIDO: 2:249/3.5
                             CBMNet: wfaust@venus.adsp.sub.org