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From: jari@ai.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jari Vaario)
Subject: Sun's math library bug?
Organization: RCAST, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.misc
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:49:47 GMT


The 'cospi' and 'sincospi' functions returns cos value 1 for 180.0 angle.
It should be -1 as the 'cos' function returns correctly!

Am I missing something or is this a bug? Please, reply by e-mail.

Thank you,
:-) Jari Vaario

------------------ Cut here for a test program ---------------

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <math.h> /*      @(#)math.h 1.30 89/07/20 SMI    */

main() {
  int deg;
  double sinpid, cospid;
  for( deg = 0; deg <= 360; deg+=90 ) {
    sincospi((double)deg/180.0, &sinpid, &cospid);
    printf("deg=%d, sinpi=%g, cospi=%g\n",
           deg, sinpid, cospid);
    printf("deg=%d, sinpi=%g, cospi=%g\n",
           deg, sinpi((double)deg/180.0), cospi((double)deg/180.0));
    printf("deg=%d, sin=%g, cos=%g\n\n",
           deg, sin(M_PI*(double)deg/180.0), cos(M_PI*(double)deg/180.0));
  }
}
--------------- Compiled by the command -----------------------

cc -o cosTest cosTest.c -lm

--------------- This is the output -----------------------------
deg=0, sinpi=0, cospi=1
deg=0, sinpi=0, cospi=1
deg=0, sin=0, cos=1

deg=90, sinpi=1, cospi=0
deg=90, sinpi=1, cospi=0
deg=90, sin=1, cos=6.12303e-17

deg=180, sinpi=0, cospi=1		<< HERE SHOULD BE -1!
deg=180, sinpi=0, cospi=1		<< HERE SHOULD BE -1!
deg=180, sin=1.22461e-16, cos=-1	<< THIS IS CORRECT!

deg=270, sinpi=-1, cospi=-0
deg=270, sinpi=-1, cospi=-0
deg=270, sin=-1, cos=-1.83691e-16

deg=360, sinpi=0, cospi=1
deg=360, sinpi=0, cospi=1
deg=360, sin=-2.44921e-16, cos=1

---------------------- This is our OS ------------------------
cat /etc/motd
SunOS Release 4.1.2-JLE1.1.2 (GENERIC) #1: Mon Dec 2 19:12:34 JST 1991

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|   | /~~~\   /\   /~~~\~~~T~~~ | Research Center for                      
|___/|       /  \  \___    |    |    Advanced Science and Technology/OHlab.
|  \ |      /~~~~\     \   |    | Komaba 4-6-1, Meguro-ku, 153 Tokyo, Japan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: bhpowell@unccsun.uncc.edu (Bradley Heath Powell)
Subject: need help with UNIX/SPARC/ptrace() single stepping...
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:06:57 GMT



I am having GREAT difficulty finding information related to a academic project
that I am working on...can anyone help me???

THE SYSTEM:
   Sun SPARCstation 2
   SunOS 4.1.3  (very similar to UNIX)

THE PROJECT:
   I am writing a program that will record its child process' references to 
memory addresses: i.e. every time the child process executes a load or store 
machine instruction, the parent needs to write the address referenced and its 
contents to a file.  Its purpose is to profile and evaluate the efficiency of 
a process by examining its load and store instructions.

SOME QUESTIONS:
- How does one (or can one...) implement single step debugging in C with 
  ptrace(), wait(), signal(), exec(), etc... under SunOS/UNIX?

- Where can I find information about the SPARC processor, particularly info.
  on encoding and decoding instructions? (yes, I've read the man pages and the
  answer book, and contacted Sun...but not enough info!)

- Where can I find a comprehensive tutorial on SPARC assembly language?

PLEASE HELP
   I would greatly appreciate any help that anyone can offer...please send 
email to the address below.  I particularly need info. on where I can get
books and sample code.


Thanks-

Brad Powell
email: bhpowell@unccsun.edu
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Amusing Sun Anecdote
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:18:16 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Well, that happens when `.' is not the first dir in your path.  :-)

Err, well, actually, it can happen even when "." *is* the first
directory in your path:

	bootme$ ed test
	?test: No such file or directory
	a
	#! /bin/sh -
	echo Yup, this is test
	.
	w
	36
	q
	bootme$ chmod +x test
	bootme$ PATH=.:$PATH; export PATH
	bootme$ test
	bootme$ 

My shell happens to be the Korn shell, but other shells have a built-in
"test" command as well (both the Bourne shell in SunOS [345].x, and the
version of the Bourne-again shell we have here, have a built-in "test"
command, and give the exact same behavior).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: tan@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (David Tan,Box 219 Baker Lab,54810,2720402)
Subject: 1/4 in tape drive question
Originator: tan@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:30:26 GMT

Hi folks,

We are the unfortunate(?) possessors of one of Sun's 1/4" tape drives, and
wonder if there is any way to add data to a tape that already has stuff on
it.  tar's "a" and "u" options seem to work with everything but this drive.

Also, does anyone out there know the density and number of tracks of DC6250
and DC600 tapes?  I can only find info about the DC6150 (it's getting 
irritating to use up 150MB tapes for 20 MB worth of backup.)

Thanks in advance,

Dave
From: rriv@oural.inria.fr (Robert Riviere)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Mac on Suns ? LIKEN ???
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:25:57 GMT
Organization: Cermics/Inria-Sophia Antipolis

In article <1k2n40INNee1@plts.uucp> tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
>
>The first time the Mac Finder appeared in a window on my SPARC I
>thought Alan Funt was going to come out from behind a curtain and say,
>"Smile!  You're on candid camera!" or that I was going to wake up and
>it would have been just a dream.
>
>Like works and works really well.  It uses some of the CAP daemons to
>provide AppleTalk, it runs MicroSloth Excel, MS-Word, QuickMail, Missle
>Command and most everything that I've tried.
>

Hmmm. Sounds good. Is it X-Windows based ? I.e. could it be used from a
X-Terminal ?

Thanks,
-- 
Robert Riviere
(rriv@sophia.inria.fr)				Tel: (33) 93.65.79.06
CERMICS	/ INRIA					Fax: (33) 93.65.77.40
BP 93                              06902	Sophia Antipolis Cedex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sources.wanted,alt.sources.wanted
From: martr@sci.kun.nl (Mart Rentmeester)
Subject: sun to be used as telephone-answering machine ?
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:37:08 GMT


I have:

1) a Sun SPARCstation ELC
2) a telephone with a connector for audio input/output or an 
   answeringmachine

I want to use my Sun as a real telephone-answeringmachine; I want it to
`pick up` the phone, play a message to the caller and record any messages
the caller wants to leave for me. 

Does anybody know of (public domain) software that can do this?

Thanks,

Mart Rentmeester    martr@sci.kun.nl
From: root@tjp.washington.edu (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Mac on Suns ? LIKEN ???
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:44:18 GMT
Organization: Technical Japanese Program
Distribution: world
Reply-To: root@tjp.washington.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: yojimbo.tjp.washington.edu

1-800-334-9191 is the number for Andataco who markets Liken.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,alt.sys.sun
From: bert@penril.com (Bert Robbins)
Subject: SPARC Portables
Organization: Penril DataComm Networks
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:05:10 GMT

I am looking for information about SPARC protables from Sun or
a second source. I remember seeing a sales brochure about a
year ago that described a SPARC compatible that was protable.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I will summarize the information I receive, by e-mail.

--
Bert Robbins                          Penril DataComm Networks
bert@penril.com                       1300 Quince Orchard Blvd
301/921-8600 x8856                    Gaithersburg, MD   20872
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters)
Subject: Re: Solaris 2 vs Windows NT: Sun is losing the desktop on price
Organization: Computing Center, Mississippi State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:35:34 GMT

In article <bkK8#I`w@twinsun.com> eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) says:
: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters) writes:
: 
: >That AUD$100 gets you a copy of the distribution media.  It doesn't buy
: >you the legal right to actually install it on any machines.  For that
: >you need to buy a Right To Use License (RTU for short) for each
: >system.  Which costs several hundreds of dollars ...
: 
: Not true.  New Sun workstations come bundled with a RTU, so you don't
: have to pay a dime to run Solaris 2 on them.  No doubt the PC pricing
: policies will be different, but let's not jump to premature conclusions.

The subject line lead me to the idea that we were basically discussing 
SunOS on PCs.  Under that restriction my statement above is completely
accurate.

In ANY case, it is a fact that buying a copy of the SunOS media does
NOT confer a license to install it on any machines.  That license must
come elsewhere (whether bundled with the purchase of the machine or
purchased explicitly).

In other words, AUD$100 does NOT cover all of the costs of installing a
SunOS on your machine.
--
Frank Peters  -  UNIX Systems Programmer  -  Mississippi State University
Internet: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu  -  Phone: (601)325-7030  -  FAX: (601)325-8921
From: philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Solaris 2 vs Windows NT: Sun is losing the desktop on price
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:01:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:

>Nope.  Some 4/110s were sold without an FPU, and, for a while, the 4/280
>I had at Sun didn't have an FPU, becasue the FPU it came with was
>defective.

Can't rememberif I asked you this in email, but let's get this public:

I have a thing labeled "FPU".. but no weitek 1164/5 chips. Is my machine
essentially "without fpu"?!!

-- 
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"How do I love sea? Let me count the waves.." |philb@cats.ucsc.edu
P.Anthony, "The Colo(u)r of her panties"      |philb@soda.berkeley.edu
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Amusing Sun Anecdote
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:04:11 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Ah, no ... my "test" echos 'foo' -- just like I asked it to...

Then you must have a shell that doesn't have a built-in "test" command,
or one that somehow figures out whether "test" should refer to the
built-in command or not based on the setting of PATH or something.

However, the Bourne shell that comes with SunOS [345].x sure as hell
doesn't do that; it always runs the built-in command if you just say
"test".  I tried it on 4.x and 5.x machines, and I didn't change any of
that stuff between 3.x and 4.x....
From: ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Adding PS fonts to Newsprint2.0
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:11:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I've been having a rough time trying to figure out how to add a
postscript font (not the F3 type) for use with newsprint and a
SPARCprinter.  Has any one been able to do this?  This is a
home-spun font that works fine on a laserwriter and another cannon
ps printer.  
I have tried to just download it first, but there is no
"memory" thus is lost when I print a doc that references the font.
There seems to be many PS fonts in the $OPENWINHOME/lib/fonts dir,
but these are also not available to the printer.

Any help is greatly appreciated,
-- 
  \________/\      ______________________    __________________________________
Steven Cobb  \    /   scobb@ucsd.edu     \__/                Graduate School:
              \  /                                           It's not a job...
         UCSD  \/ ision Lab                                  It's an indenture.
From: buck@inode.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: REVIEWING RISC BOXES
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:31:46 GMT
Reply-To: buck@inode.com
Organization: inode BBS, NYC's Best Usenet Access (212-679-9146)

Hi Folks,
 
  One of my clients, a popular magazine specializing in personal computers, 
has decided to 'review the current state of the workstation world'.

  It looks like they will be supplied with the following low to mid-range 
boxes:

   IBM RS6000/320h
   SGI Indigo
    HP 9000/720
   Sun ???

  Thankfully, they have decided not to compare apples and oranges, and 
won't be trying to choose the 'Best workstation' from the lot.

  I would like to solicit opinions as to what would be a good way to 
compare the various strengths and weakness of these machines.
 
  For example, my particular area of interest is floating point performance 
as used in modeling and scientific applications.  Tests on my model 320 
RS6000, which is a great performer in single user mode, show that it's 
floating point performance is seriously impacted under multitasking loads.  
I aim to see if this is equally true of the other RISC machines.
 
  What might be a fair way to compare video performance... disk access
and throughput speed... general user friendliness and suitability for 
different apps... might it be interesting to also evaluate a high end PC
running Unix ?
 
  Your input would help us offer a subjective review consisting of more
than the usual spec/mips number wars.  If you would email me any thoughts
you have on the subject I would be happy to post a summary and keep you 
posted on the progress of the evaluation. 
 
Alan Buck
buck@inode.com


                                    
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#! rnews 1
From: bernt.budde@udac.uu.se (Bernt Budde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: How does PC-NFS work with free programs?
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.misc
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:08:11 GMT
Organization: UDAC (Uppsala Univ. Comp. Centre)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: macbug.udac.uu.se

I'm a PC virgin, but I sorely need a short evaluation of PC-NFS regarding
using it together with free programs (like NCSA Telnet) which use packet
drivers.

I've heard that there are problems with getting the received packets to the
right software (NFS or Telnet) or something?

How is the product otherwise? I've seen a couple of positive reviews.

Post or mail. If anyone indicates interest, I'll post the resulting info,
if any.

Bernt 'Bug' Budde, UDAC (Uppsala Univ. Computing Centre)
Bernt.Budde@udac.uu.se
From: devil@HellNet.org (Gil Tene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Solaris 2 vs Windows NT: Sun is losing the desktop on price
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:09:11 GMT
Organization: Diablery, cloud seven, Hell. (also 10A Inc.)

In article <AJR.93Jan22152852@pug.hri.com>, ajr@pug.hri.com (MFHorn) writes:
> In article <1993Jan22.154400.23050@ra.msstate.edu> fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters) writes:
> > In article <C19G06.8Gv@ra.nrl.navy.mil> tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse) says:
> > :    Why would anyone in their right mind run SunOS on a PC (at least
> > : not until the alpha PC, and only if it's as good as claimed) when
> > : a Sun with the TI chip can be had for under $4k.
> > 
> > Hell if I know.  Because they already have the PC perhaps?
> 
> That's what I'm currently planning on doing.  If I could get an Sbus
> SoundBlaster however, I'd consider selling my PC for an LX with SunPC...

What would you want an Sbus SoundBlaster on an LX for?? It already
has built-in 44.1Khz (CD quality) audio i/o...

-- 
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-- devil@diablery.10A.com 					   -
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From: philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Solaris 2 vs Windows NT: Sun is losing the desktop on price
Date: 22 Jan 93 06:14:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) writes:
>Not true.  New Sun workstations come bundled with a RTU, so you don't
>have to pay a dime to run Solaris 2 on them.  No doubt the PC pricing
>policies will be different, but let's not jump to premature conclusions.

So what if, "Hypothetically"-like, I HAPPEN to have a 4/110, and was
interested in running Solaris on it?

-- 
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"How do I love sea? Let me count the waves.." |philb@cats.ucsc.edu
P.Anthony, "The Colo(u)r of her panties"      |philb@soda.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: arao@andy.bgsu.edu (Avinash Rao)
Subject: .cshrc
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.misc
Organization: Bowling Green State Univerlity
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:21:21 GMT

Hi,
			Does anyone have a fancy .cshrc file that you could share with me?
Avinash
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Mac on Suns ? LIKEN ???
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:52:48 -0500
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

In <1993Jan25.174938.17139@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> hiren@mtu.edu (Hiren Shah) writes:

>I am told that there is a package called LIKEN that lets you emulate 
>a Macintosh on a Sun. Does anybody have more information on it ?
> 
>Any suggestions/phone numbers/ would be appreciated.
>Thanks in advance

I've been using a demo copy of Liken (2 week floating license) and I'm
now a beta tester (I'm in the process of purchasing a non-demo copy).
The program blows me away.  It's really good.

The first time the Mac Finder appeared in a window on my SPARC I
thought Alan Funt was going to come out from behind a curtain and say,
"Smile!  You're on candid camera!" or that I was going to wake up and
it would have been just a dream.

Like works and works really well.  It uses some of the CAP daemons to
provide AppleTalk, it runs MicroSloth Excel, MS-Word, QuickMail, Missle
Command and most everything that I've tried.

If you are a Unix weenie living in a Mac world and don't have the desk
space (or money) for a Mac, give Liken a try.

Tom

-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@plts.uucp (home) -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work)
Moderator of ne-social-motss and the Drew University Alumni/ae mailing lists.
"There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is
right with America." --Bill Clinton's inaugural address, 1/20/93
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo)
Subject: cdplayer on Solaris 2.1
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:33:53 GMT

	We just purchased 5 SPARCclassic systems with Solaris 2.1 and a Sun
CD-ROM.  In the CD manual it mentions a program called "cdplayer" that
allows you to control audio playback features of the CD-ROM.  Where can I
obtain this program?

--Felix

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: andr@elvis.sovusa.com (Andrei Arkhipov)
Subject: system panic Q
Reply-To: andr@elvis.sovusa.com
Organization: ELVIS Corp.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:01:10 GMT

Hello.

Sometimes I receive the message like this on our Sun4/260
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: kmem_free: free block overlap ff35ffe8+5152 over ff3604c8
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: panic: kmem_free: free block overlap
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: syncing file systems... kmem_free: free block overlap ff35ffe8+5152 over ff360928
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: panic: kmem_free: free block overlap
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 00372 low-memory static kernel pages
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 00488 additional static and sysmap kernel pages
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 00000 dynamic kernel data pages
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 00151 additional user structure pages
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 00000 segmap kernel pages
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 00000 segvn kernel pages
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 00076 current user process pages
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 00063 user stack pages
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 01150 total pages (1150 chunks)
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: 
Jan 27 05:37:40 elvis vmunix: dumping to vp ff182d94, offset 581537

and system reboot. Can anybody help me to understand what is the cause of such behavior?

Configuration: Sun4/260 with 96Mb of mem and 4 SMD disks, SunOS 4.1.1b

It seems to me that system fails when a large number of processes is working and an intensive disk
usage is take place. Am I right? Is there any way to avoid such "panic"?

Thank you,
         Andrei.
From: kim@unix.cc.emory.edu (Kim Wallen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Mac on Suns ? LIKEN really works
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:25:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Psychology
Distribution: na
Reply-To: kim@unix.cc.emory.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: wallen.psy.emory.edu

In article 1k3vqlINNn28@network.ucsd.edu, dbw@network.ucsd.edu (David B. Wollner) writes:
>Hiren Shah (hiren@mtu.edu) wrote:
>
>: Hi:
>:  
>: I am told that there is a package called LIKEN that lets you emulate 
>: a Macintosh on a Sun. Does anybody have more information on it ?
>:  
>: Any suggestions/phone numbers/ would be appreciated.
>
>Information on Liken is available from
>	Xcelerated Systems, Inc.
>	9245 Sky Park Court Suite 130
>	San Diego, CA
>		92123
>	(619)576-3080
>	Fax:(619)576-2504
>	Email:liken@xsi.com

We have been using Liken for about 6 weeks.  We have several Sun users
who are also committed to Macs for some applications (in fact one really
runs two completely different systems, Mac or Sun, at his different
research locations).  Everyone has been extremely impressed with Liken.
The heaviest Mac user was immediately convinced he would no longer
have to buy Macs, but would expand his lab with LXs (hopefully Liken
will be running under Solaris 2.1 soon) and Liken. 

Performance?  On my SS/2 it generally gives me SE/30 performance
on most applications.  I found it much faster than that on Cricket Graph,
and a bit slower on Hypercard.  Overall it is a completely usable system.
I also run SoftPC for DOS emulation and was astounded that Liken runs
Mac applications much faster than SoftPC runs PC apps.  I keep a Liken
window open on my machine and switch between Mac and Sun with ease.

Limitations?  Yes there are several.  No system 7 (promised in March), no
color (ditto March), it can't really take adavantage of hardware (no serial
port, no sound), but it will use your floppy (1.44mb only), CD, and getting
it to print on your SparcPrinter is as simple as dragging a LaserPrep and
LaserWriter file to your System folder.

We are using the floating license and it works very nicely.  There is a
shared disk that all user can access and each user can set up their own
personal desktop with attached Unix and Mac filesystems.  Works very nicely.

I haven't run across many pieces of software that do as much as they promise.  This is one of them.

Disclaimer: I have no financial or other interest in XSI.  I just think they
have done a great job in freeing Sun users from ever having to touch
a Mac again.  For us this will speed our migration to Sun hardware.

Kim

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| Department of psychology          Bitnet: kim@emoryu1             |
| Emory University                                                  |
| Atlanta, GA 30322                                                 |
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