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From: willis@oracle.SCG.HAC.COM (Stan Willis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Training Camp locations
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:10:44 GMT
Reply-To: willis@empire.dnet.hac.com (Stan Willis)
Organization: none

BOS Ristuccia Exposition Centre, Wilmington, MA
BUF Sabreland, Wheatfield, NY
CAL Max Bell Arena, Calgary, ALB
CHI Chicago Stadium, Chicago, IL
DET IMA Sports Arena, Flint, MI
    Joe Louis Arena, Detroit, MI
EDM Northlands Coliseum, Edmonton, ALB
HAR Gutterson Field House, Burlington, VT
    Avon Old Farms School Rink, Avon, CT
LA  Blue Jay Ice Castle, Blue Jay, CA
    Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA
MIN Met Centre, Bloomington, MN
MON Verdun Auditorium, Verdun, QUE
    Montreal Forum, Montreal, QUE
NJ  South Mountain Arena, West Orange, NJ
    Meadowlands, East Rutherford, NJ
NYI Knickerbocker Arena, Troy, NY
    Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
NYR Playland Ice Casino, Rye, NY
    Glens Falls Civic Centre, Glens Falls, NY
OTW Robert Guerlin Arena, Hull, QUE
    Kanata Recreation Complex, Kanata, ONT
PHI O'Leary Recreation Complex
    The Coliseum, Voorhees, NJ
    The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA
PIT Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA
QUE Ciermont Arena, Ciermont, QUE
    Colisee de Quebec, Quebec City, QUE
SJ  Cow Palace, Daly City, CA
STL Brentwood Ice Arena, Brentwood, MO
    St. Louis Arena, St. Louis, MO
TB  Lakeland Civic Centre, Lakeland, FL
    Expo Hall @ Florida State Fairgrounds, Tampa, FL
TOR Collingwood Arena, Collingwood, ONT
    Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, ONT
VAN Victoria Memorial Arena, Victoria, BC
    The Coliseum, Vancouver, BC
WAS Piney Orchard Ice Rink, Odenton, MD
WIN Winnipeg Arena, Winnipeg, MAN

Stan Willis
net contact: L.A. Kings

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From: broger@bnr.ca (Roger Balakrishnan)
Subject: Ottawa Senators training camp roster
Reply-To: broger@bnr.ca (Roger Balakrishnan)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 14:57:36 GMT


The Ottawa senators listed their roster for the upcoming 
training camp (camp opens Sept 11). It is possibly the 
worst collection of players since the Washington Capitals
entered the league way back when. This team is gonna be 
have a hard tim getting 20 points next year. The best 
players on the Ottawa roster are Mark Lamb and Doug Smail
after that the quality drops off considerably. On defense 
they have Brad Shaw and not much else. Maybe later I'll 
post the entire roster.


roger
From: sergei+@cs.cmu.edu (Sergei Nirenburg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: a small correction
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:26:21 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


In article <14SEP92.18711489.0081@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CCDB@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CCDB000) writes:

>P.S. No one seems to mention Team Canada or Russian team of 1972
>
>Was there a better line than V.Kharmolov, Maltov & Yakashev.
>
>    The BIG "D"

Well, Kharlamov and Yakushev were both left wings. They never played on one
line.

In 1972, if I remember correctly, the two best lines for the USSR team were:

Boris Mikhailov - Vladimir Petrov - Valeri Kharlamov 
Evgenii Zimin - Vladimir Shadrin - Aleksandr Yakushev

Zimin scored the first goal in that game at the Forum, and Yakushev played
with Dryden a bit later to score an unbelievable "slow motion" goal.

Aleksandr Maltsev was a great player, but he played for Dynamo Moscow when
that team was not as strong as in recent years, and didn't have stable
linemates on Team USSR which always stressed stable units.

Sergei
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From: mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok)
Subject: Re: Arbitrator resolves Pens/Whalers compensation issue
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:06:42 GMT

Pittsburgh didn't care about Pieterangelo when they basically
discarded him, but when Frank showed promise in the playoffs as a
quality NHL goaltender, Pittsburgh realized its mistake and wanted to
try to get greater compensation from the Whalers.

Oddly enough, the Whalers have an abundance of quality goalies even
with the loss of Peter Sidorkiewicz.  Kay Whitmore, Frank Pietrangelo,
Mario Gosselin, and Sean Burke.  One would think with so many teams in
need to goaltenders, the Whalers should be able to add some more
talent to their roster.

Things that make you go hmmm.
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 21:38:19 EST
From: <ACPS7083@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: request for trades up-to-date!

Hi there.  I was wondering if all YOU CRAZY HOCKEY FANS would like to assist
me concerning the upcoming 92/93 NHL season!!  Reason:  The next season is
coming soon, and everyone are somewhat preparing for their choices
in their respective hockey pools, and I was hoping if everyone or anyone
could inform me all, or some, of the major or minor DEALS that went through
throughout the off-season.....
  "DEALS" meaning any signings of free agents,
                  any negotiation agreements,
                  any retirements,
                  any hiring within staff (Coaches, GMs, etc.)
        and of course, any trades.
  The trades that I know, are:
-   The Lindros Deal in Phillie  ( and getting really bored of it )
-   The Russ Courtnall for Brian Bellows deal
-   Pat Conacher to LA for FC deal
-   The Damphousse Deal
-   The Burke deal
and some others that I can't remember off hand.  If you know these and/or
others not mentioned, Please posted them in detail.
Thanks.   Hope to Hear From all you Hockey Fans / Hackers....

One dedicated hockey fan.

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*  THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE HECK OF A SEASON!
*  WITH TWO ADDITIONAL TEAM INTO THE NHL
*  AND MANY NEW FACES IN MANY DIFFERENT TEAMS
*  AND NEW RULES PRESENTED INTO THE NHL
*  JUST CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DROP OF THE PUCK TO START THE 92/93 SEASON!
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:48:35 -0400 
From: John Michael Santore <jsbh+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Wierd Dream...

>Had a really strange dream last night...  (but then, I seem to
>specialize in wierd dreams)
> 
>I was a reporter interviewing Manon Rheaume for my newspaper.  (I don't
>work for a newspaper, I'm not a reporter, and I don't even play one on
>TV.)  She was telling me all about how much she enjoyed the backup
>goaltender job for the Lightning.  (So she made it!  I don't remember
>who got the starting job, though.)
 
How's THIS for a weird dream... about two nights ago (actually I was
sleeping in the afternoon) I dreamt I went to the Flyers-Pens opening
night game on Oct 6 and Ron Hextall and Steve Duschene (and although
I've seen pictures of them, I doubt I could recognize them in real life)
were there...  We had seats nearby.  I hung out with Hextall, but
Duschene stayed in his seat... it was really strange to wake up from
THAT.....

                        -John Santore

Watch Lindros beat the hell out of Ulf on Oct 6...
The Pens are going DOWN!


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From: pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pravin Devineni Ratnam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Mo' money, mo' money
Date: 5 Sep 92 06:42:29 GMT
	<Bu0L43.Atp.1@cs.cmu.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

The Pens should have just let him holdout. Barasso doesn't do anything
in the regular season and the early part of the playoffs anyway.

I woiuld like  to see Barasso handle Mario & co. He would have looked
almost  as bad as the other goalies. They could have used some of that
money to pay Mullen and Bourque. Barasso is not worth more thn 3.5
million a year, and that's assuming he plays well each year in the
playoffs.
From: chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: CHILL OUT??????
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:22:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


	The powers that be in Columbus, Ohio are at it again! The Columbus
Chill of the (ECHL) East Coast Hockey League have completed a GREAT
first season(1991-1992), but it may be their last! The Columbus Dispatch
reported late last week that there is a scheduling problem between the
Chill, and the Fairgounds Coliseum. The Dispatch obtained a copy of the
Feb.(1993) bookings for the coliseum that shows the Chill with only two
to three home games for the month. The (ECHL) schedule shows the Chill with
eight home games in February. The league has the power to revoke the 
franchise if it can not meet the agreed-upon schedule. Origionally the
Chill was offered just four possible dates in February, which the ECHL
proposed was "UNACCEPTABLE". 
	The Columbus Chill sold over 1,000 season tickets it's first year,
and averaged over 5,000 in the 5,700 seat coliseum. So far this year, the
Chill has sold over 4,300 season tickets. 
	Last season, the Chill had to play four of 32 home games at nuetral 
sites around the state because of scheduling problems. Because of this, the
team lost over $100,000 dollars. This is NOT the first time that this has
happened to Hockey in Columbus Ohio. The (IHL) Checkers, Owls, and Seals
had similar problems.
	Let's hope that a QUICK resolution to this problem can be found.
If not - A lot of GOOD Hockey Fans, including myself, will feel a little 
less CHILL in the winter months to come!
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell)
Subject: Re: Pizza!
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:08:15 GMT

gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:

>In article 15354@umd5.umd.edu, knox@monster.umd.edu (Garry Knox) writes:
>> I thought it was the free pizza we get everytime the Captials score 6 goals?

>Ha!  The Sharks only have to score three for us to get pizza!

I'd still say that Caps fans ate more pizza than the Sharks fans did
last year.
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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: nhl schedules, nhl.c
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:05:37 GMT
Organization: UB


I have copies of a complete nhl schedule (Tom Wilson's) as well as
schedules for the individual teams (most have been corrected but
some may still contain errors, so be forewarned).  I'll give copies 
to whomever asks.

I tried sending the Washington schedule out to whomever it was in
Maine that wanted one, but the mail bounced.  Contact me if you're
still interested, whoever you are.  :-)

nhl.c now notes the games held at the remote locations, like
Sacramento, Hamilton, etc.  Thousands of thanks to Tom Wilson who
provided the fix and to everyone who offered.  Thanks also to Glenn
Chin who keeps finding schedule errors and noting them.  
Keep waiting a little while longer for Glenn to check something out,
though.  :-)  


Have to run, so be patient, please.... Thanks.


-- 
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hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu        job in North America.  Willing to 
v085pwpz@ubvms.bitnet           relocate.  Can begin any time.
SUNY at Buffalo ASCIT Consultant for yet another semester (sigh). 
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From: hoebel@cs.rochester.edu
Subject:  where's the thought police!
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 16:12:16 -0400


HEAR  -  HERE
THERE - THEIR

...come on 'use guys ( did he say 'use guys?)
don't let these dilenants get away with this !

->lou
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From: bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down)
Subject: Re: W.I.H.L. and other Senior Leagues
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:00:46 GMT

Douglas Dobbins <douglasd@halcyon.com> writes:

>Does anyone know if any of the senior leagues are still playing for the 
>the Allen Cup. 

Well, I know they were a couple of years ago. We went up 
to Newmarket, Ont. to see the finals. A team from Newfoundland
was representing the East, but I forget who they were playing
against.

Those Senior hockey leagues were just tremendous. You'd
pack 2500-3000 people into a small town arena and the
place would really be hopping. There was a suprising amout
of talent available as well.

You probably wouldn't have enjoyed it if you belong to the
"fighting ruins hockey" camp.

Brian Down (bdown@vis.toronto.edu)
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From: arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: Caps Sched and Ticket Info Request
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:25:48 GMT

In article <BuF75r.9Iu@news.orst.edu> macraei@bionette.cgrb.orst.edu (Ian MacRae) writes:
>From: macraei@bionette.cgrb.orst.edu (Ian MacRae)
>Subject: Caps Sched and Ticket Info Request
>Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:32:14 GMT


>I'll be in Baltimore Dec 5-12 and would appreciate some kind soul
>sending me info on where I can get schedule and ticket info for
>any Caps games on during this period. Having been in NHL exile
>here in Oregon for 2 years, a hotdog at a live game seems considerably 
>more attractive than the typical conference dinners of rubber chicken!



>**************************************************************************
>             Ian MacRae              |  "Waddya mean there's NO rink!?"
>      Oregon State University        |    Most common first response
>        Dept. of Entomology          |     of new Canadian students
>       macraei@cgrb.orst.edu         |          at Oregon State.
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It is only because you haven't seen a game in two years that I'll respond 
for Caps ticket information  (I'm still bitter over the way the team 
records and spends its revenues -- giving parking and food dollars to the 
Bullets, trading Ciccarelli, getting back Coriveau and Carpenter, etc -- and 
I and others aren't renewing tickets in hopes that low sales will help wake 
up Abe Pollin).

But, I can't imagine not seeing a game for years, so here goes...You can 
call 800-551-SEAT and purchase Caps tickets.  I don't have a schedule handy, 
but I don't recall an early December road trip.  Phone charge will be able 
to help you figure the game dates, times, etc.  Sections 206, 207, and 208 
are center ice facing the players benches.  Sections 220, 221, 222 are 
center ice facing the penalty boxes.  The Caps shoot twice at the section 
101, 128, 129 end of the building.  They defend 113, 114, and 115 end 
twice.  The press box is on the corner in 112.  I don't know what your 
preference is, and they usually don't/won't tell you what sections face 
what, etc. over the phone.  

By the way, the cut off for the least expensive seats is section N. A few 
rows back and you save a few bucks a seat and there's not that much 
difference if you're up there anyway.  

For a fellow fan, I hope you get to see a game.  But, for the sake of us 
who won't go until the team becomes more committed to winning rather 
than bringing back the old days, just don't buy too many hot dogs.  The 
Bullets don't deserve your hockey money.

Warren
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: ESPN Followup
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:38:42 GMT

In article <3SEP199211415616@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG) writes:
>>Last year I had great viewing options.
>>SportsChannel NY gave me NYI, NJ and MSG gave me the Rangers. We also
>>get HNIC. SOme occasional late games from from SC Chicago and their
>>wonderful anchor at his wonderful set. A choice of over 10 games a week
>>and almost every night! wife? child? thesis? my job....? huh? what?
>SCA games, but since I'm a hockey fan, the Caps and some extra games 
>from SCA just don't cut it.  Ten games a week, huh?  Think you could 
>find me a job up there?
>

Don't fall for it. Ten games a week is misleading. Ask Lou how many games
he saw last year that weren't involving the Islanders/Rangers/Devils.

If you are a Caps fan, like I am, living in New York is not much better,
because you are forced fed with teams you hate, namely the Isles/Rangers/
Devils. Why do you give a shit when the Islanders play the Jets? or
the Devils play the Whalers? If you are not a fan of the teams involved,
and the teams are not particularly competitive, will you still stick
to the TV for 3 hours nite in nite out?

The truth is, SCA's US national contract has been going nowhere. A fan
living in the NY area will see ~200 Islanders/Rangers/Devils no matter what
because of the local TV contracts. But now, anybody who is sick with
the three local teams gets a relief. At least I have a chance to see
Lindros vs Lemieux or Lindros vs Gretzky on ESPN. 
 
-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: gomer+@pitt.edu (Richard J Coyle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Arbitrator resolves Pens/Whalers compensation issue
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:10:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Sep15.200642.2374@scott.skidmore.edu> mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok) writes:
>Pittsburgh didn't care about Pieterangelo when they basically
>discarded him, but when Frank showed promise in the playoffs as a
>quality NHL goaltender, Pittsburgh realized its mistake and wanted to
>try to get greater compensation from the Whalers.

Not quite.  The Pens recognize Frankie for what he is:  a very mediocre
goalie (VERY mediocre) who occasionally plays way over his head.  They
also realize that he is a locker-room malcontent who is always bitching
and complaining, and who has no idea how poor a goalie he actually is.
In fact, part of the problem was that the Whalers wanted the Pens to
take Pietrangelo back, since they now have no need for him and they
realize his market value to be lower than George Bush's IQ, but Patrick
wanted no part of that.  Patrick just wanted to get as much for one of
his old players as he could.

Truth is, I'm sure he's tickled pink to get a third and a seventh
round pick for the Sieve.  A third rounder alone is way more than that
guy is worth.

rick
From: jaslow@bissun.kodak.com (Russell Jaslow)
Subject: Re: Rangers Training Camp still in Glens Falls???
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:02:19 GMT

In article <farenebt.716139172@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell) writes:
>
>All I know, is that last year the Rangers trained in GF. Also note, however,
>that NYR has done half its camp in Rye, NY (on Long Island, I believe) and

Rye is in Westchester County which is north of NYC.  Many, many years ago
the Rangers training camp was in Long Beach, Long Island.  After the Islanders
came into the league, the Rangers moved their camp to Rye, with the 
occassional foray into Glen Falls recently.
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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EvaN PritcHarD)
Subject: Re: PenGuins GGGRREEAAT?
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:56:45 GMT

>In article <5392@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, pktst+@pitt.edu (Pat K Thompson) writes:
>> In message: <02SEP92.14779029.0060@VM1.MCGILL.CA> 
>> CCDB@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CCDB) writes:
>> 
>>>First of all the pens are a very talented, and a good team, but
>>>I think possibly learnt the first rule of the NHL.(THE REGULAR
>>>SEASON MEANS SQUAT)!!
 
>> I will agree with everything here.  


Tell this to the Calgary Flames.     


=================== 
Evan Pritchard ---- Waiting for the hockey season to begin  
Winner of the rec.sport.hockey trivia competition :-)  

epritcha@psych.uiuc.edu  [alternatively  EVAN33@uiucvmd.bitnet ]
From: spe@coos.dartmouth.edu (Robert W. Layman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: SHARKS NEWS: Training Camp Roster
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:53:10 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


Speaking of the Sharks, can anyone give me last year's stats
on defensman David Williams.

Thanks, the info would be most appreciated.
From: MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Which Team is More Popular:NBA or NHL?!
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:54:15 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
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In <188gr5INN1j9@hal.com> dougm@hal.com writes:

> In article <1992Aug27.115946.21279@abo.fi>, MLINDROOS@finabo (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
> >-In LOS ANGELES (LA Forum), the Lakers were the toast of the town and won
> >five champonships in the 1980s. The Kings merely subsisted until Gretzky came
> >around. Today, both teams sell out all their home game. The Lakers win, if
> >only because they can accomodate more fans.
> 
> In the Bay Area, the Sharks and the Warriors seem to be running about
> even, currently.  There are two mitigating (and I think mutually
> offsetting) circumstances:

Yeah, the reason I left out Golden State/San Jose was that they are the only
common market where the teams have distinct geographical "identities" and play
in separate arenas as well. Now, one could certainly claim that the Warriors &
Sharks are no different than the Red Wings/Pistons and North Stars/T-Wolves...
Still, the San Jose name does seem to be the source of some civic interest and
pride for Sharks fans - the majority of whom live in SJ rather than SF or
Oakland.
 
> o The Warriors have made the playoffs the last several years, while the
>   Sharks probably won't for a while
> o The Sharks are a novelty item
> 
> In general, when Bay Area teams do poorly, they draw poorly.  Even the
> mighty Oakland A's drew lousy when they were playing lousy.  How long
> will San Jose fans tolerate a loser before they start losing interest?

Yup, the Athletics once drew a mighty 653 fans for a game. That's almost as
bad as the "official"(?) low mark of 98 who turned up in Houston for a
Mavericks ABA game in 1970. Not even the North American Soccer League stunk
this bad! Has anyone heard of lousier fan support for *ANY* major league 
sport (sort of anyway)? 

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