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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac Color Display (New Apple Monitor)
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:40:59 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School
Disclaimer: I don't represent Dartmouth and Dartmouth doesn't represent me.

In <17.2afdf0b1@ivgate> Neil.Runyon@theboard.omahug.org (Neil Runyon) writes:

>I bought the new Mac Color Display last week, and I have noticed some things
>that seem odd to me.  First there is a very thin line about 3/4 down the
>screen.  I was told this is a wire and that it is not a problem. Can anyone
>confirn or deny this?  

That's a standard 'feature' of the SONY trinitron tube. The 13" display
has a similar line as does the 16".

>Also, this is the second MCD I got ( had to return the first one ), and the
>picture is slighted crooked.  The right part of the screen is about 3-4 pixels
>higher then the left side (any ideas?). 
>Finally, if I turn the monitor (it has the built in swivel) the whole picture
>will rise (if I turn the screen to the right), or fall (left turn).  

That's weird. I would return a monitor that behaved like that. (now,
whether they take it or not is a different matter)

-Geoff
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: brownd@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (David H Brown)
Subject: Scanman 32 vs Typist Plus Graphics?
Summary: Recommendations, please
Keywords: hand scanner cost graphics grayscale
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:59:47 GMT

	Well, I was just about set to get the Logitech Scanman when I get
this catalog offering the Typist Plus Graphics for only $339. So, I'd like
your help in deciding which to get.

My primary use will be for scanning clip art to use on a stylewriter for
small-scale DTP. I don't really need the OCR, but don't mind paying the $50
difference (same catalog has the Logitech for $289).

The September MacUser mentions that the Typist actually can scan only 1-bit;
software interpolates for 256 grays. Has anybody out there used this device
for grayscale scanning? Can anybody suggest whether the 256-gray
interpolation would be better or worse than the Scanman's 32 true (I assume)
grays?

BTW, the bundled software doesn't matter much... I've had good success using
Photoshop to convert a 72dpi grayscale PICT to a 360dpi bitmap TIFF.

And finally, if anyone would care to suggest a third scanner and a source,
I'd be happy to consider that, too... provided it didn't cost more; $340
really is my budget for this.

Thanks much,
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Dave Brown
brownd@stolaf.edu
From: perm@csd.uu.se (Per Mildner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: CMS Macstack 45 Removable Any info?
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:28:35
Organization: Computing Science Dept.,Uppsala University, Sweden
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: groucho.csd.uu.se


A friend of mine is trying to use a HD with removable media. It seems
to be (been?) produced by a company named CMS, and seems to be named
MacStack 45 Removable. With it comes something called VCP_init v 2.0.
The problem with this hardware is that it crashes the machine (an SE
30) if the init is not installed, or if it is not turned on. It also
makes SCSI Probe 3.01 go hmmm (bomb). It works on a Mac II si
althought it has some problems there too if not turned on. This is all
on system 6.05.  Anybody know anything about this beast, newer driver
or anything.

Thanks in advance,
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From: blh+@cs.cmu.edu (Bruce Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Yet Another Mac IIci For Sale
Keywords: Mac IIci sale
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:06:05 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

For sale:

Mac IIci, 4MB RAM, 80MB disk
Apple 13" RGB monitor (Sony Trinitron)
64K Cache Card
Monitor Stand
Standard Keyboard

$2400 + shipping or best offer.

Please contact Bruce Horn at
	home	(412) 422-9174
	fax	(412) 422-2039
	e-mail	Bruce.Horn@cs.cmu.edu

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From: wtkwest@duncan.cs.utk.edu (tsew mailliw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Hard Disk Sound Recording
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:30:28 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wtkwest@duncan.cs.utk.edu (tsew mailliw)
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

In article <1992Nov05.201458.26513@fourd.com>, Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com writes:
	[stuff deleted...]
|> 
|> The Sound Designer ][
|> software requires a drive with an access time of 28ms or less.  The Deck
|> software requires a drive with an access time of 18ms or less.  Third party 
|> sequencing software that allows you to interface with Digidesign products 
|> (such as Mark of the Unicorns Digital Performer or Opcode's Studio Vision)
|> requires a drive with an access time of 18ms or less.  The top of the line Pro
|> Tools digital hard drive recording system was very specific in regards to it's
|> hard drive specifications...... 18ms access time and a transfer rate of 800kb
	[stuff deleted.....]
I suppose Floptical disks are out of the question....?

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From: 128a-3fq@e260-2a.berkeley.edu (Bob C. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: For sale: Xeba 9600 data/fax V.42bis modem
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:14:00 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-2a.berkeley.edu
Originator: 128a-3fq@e260-2a.berkeley.edu



	** Going for 14.4k now!! **

	Quicktel's Xeba 9600 data/fax V.42bis modem.

	Hardware handshaking cable included.

	Software included:
		QuickLink II
		stfFAX

	Ask for $200.00, plus shipping if necessary.


	Reply to this account,

		or,

	Call Bob at (510) 233-6583 and leave mesage if I'm not home.



	G'day,

	...B.o.b...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: simsh@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Chewbacca)
Subject: Upgrades not limited to si's?
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:32:33 GMT

I just heard last night that it's also possible to upgrade the oscillator in
your PB 140 or Quadra 700/900 the same way as in the IIsi. Anyone tried this
or know anything about it? I'm curious, but I don't know how reliable the 
source is. It'd be loads of fun to pick up a cheap 140 and run it like a 145.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: edcrwfrd@unlv.edu (Edward Crawford)
Subject: Re: 68050
Organization: UNLV
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 21:55:36 GMT

In article <D2150056.ht9uln@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com writes:
>
>Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com writes:
>
>
>The reason that Apple has an alliance with IBM now has to do with corporate
>alliances and shrinking market share for both companies, not with IBM's
>technical expertise.
>
>-----
>Eric Smith

Apple's Market share is not shrinking, on the contrary Apple
is greedy and is shooting for a bigger market share, this isnt
an attempt to keep the same size share. Oh and by the way, in
the PC catagory, Apple now has the largest share  :)



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tmcconne@sedona.intel.com (Tom McConnell~)
Subject: Re: 68050
Originator: tmcconne@sedona
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:07:03 GMT


In article <D2150056.ht9uln@erics.infoserv.com>, erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith) writes:
> 
> Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com writes:
> 
> > I'm not
> > saying that IBM PC's are fast ..... but the PC's are Personal Computers
> > targeted towards home users .... the PC's use Intel chips (laugh laugh .... um
> > no offense).  I was talking about speed in the sense of IBM RISC based
> > workstations that use IBM RISC chips.  Get the idea??? Joe C.
> 
> And the R4000 or the Alpha aren't fast? The Intel P5 and P6 won't be
> fast? Motorola couldn't come out with another generation of chips that
> are as fast as the IBM RISC chips?
> 
> The reason that Apple has an alliance with IBM now has to do with corporate
> alliances and shrinking market share for both companies, not with IBM's
> technical expertise.
> 
  If I recall, part of the Apple-IBM alliance is to create an operating system,
Taligent, that is architecture-independent. I'm guessing, but I would think the
first Taligent ports would be to the Pentium (Intel's P5) and the next
generation IBM RISC chip, which is being fabbed by Motorola.

  If you look at some of the Intel based computers that are available, the range
in computing power goes from a i386SL based handheld to the i860 based Paragon
supercomputer. There are i486 (soon to be Pentium) based "PC"'s running Unix
that are being used as workstations. Eric is right though, there is lots of
really fast silicon available. The term "PC" doesn't mean what it used to.

  Just my $.02 worth :)

    Cheers,

    Tom McConnell
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: brainiac@athena.mit.edu (Jack I Fu)
Subject: SIMM installation IIsi
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:03:20 GMT


I have a Mac IIsi that has 4 MB on the motherboard and 4 256KB
SIMMs in the 4 RAM banks for a total of 5 MB. I recently took
those 4 256KB SIMMs out of the sockets and installed 4 1MB SIMMs.
However, when I restarted the computer, the "About the Macintosh..."
window still shows 5 MB! Am I missing something? Do I need to "set"
some switch or something? Why isn't the Mac recognizing the new
SIMMs rated at 80ns? Please help. Thanks.


Jack Fu
brainiac@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: swiers@plains.NoDak.edu (Aaron Swiers)
Subject: Wanted: reviews/impressions of removable drives
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:50:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

I am considering purchasing some form of drive to backup my
80 MB internal hard drive.  I originally was thinking in terms
of a tape backup unit, but about all I can find at the major
Mac mail order houses are the $1500+ DAT drives.  I don't need
near this capacity, or cost.  Thus I have started to look at 
removable hard drives.  I am currently looking at the Iomega
Mac Transportable 90.  It seems to be quick, reliable, and
relatively inexpensive $500.  I would like to hear any impressions
of this drive (or other removables or tape backup units).
Please email me, and I will summarize the responses.  Thank-you

Aaron Swiers
swiers@plains.nodak.edu
From: goebel@slate.cps.msu.edu (Chris J Goebel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Upgrades not limited to si's?
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:11:08 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

I am in a perfect position to experiment with such an upgrade.

I am graduating.  Beginning to look at other, more powerful
platforms.  I have used a sodering iron in the past.  I think
it would be fun to play around with the internal guts and
do not fear the potential consequences. (any of them like
I said I am outgrowing machine and if it dies it dies)

I don't have the reccomended procedure and would appreciate
hearing the specifics of all the different approaches used.

1) Where to order the parts and what part #'s to get

2) What is the minimum/maximum modification that I can do
	-IE I heard mention of heat sinks and/or sockets
	 that were inserted
	-I am willing to go all out and spend 30-40$ if
	 necessary to minimize the problems

My machine was received in January of '91 with the 5/80 configuration
and has a Quicksilver cache card w/FPU.

Thanks!

Chris
(goebel@cps.msu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele)
Subject: PB100 LCD Display Quality (Black Specks)
Organization: Tadpole Technology plc
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:52:49 GMT

Both the PB100 units I have seen (mine and a friend's) have a few
little black specks on the display.  They are not dead pixels.  It
seems they are either trapped between the filter and the LCD or they
are actually part of the LCD itself.

Does anyone know about this?  If they're trapped dirt, does anyone
know how to dismantle the display unit?  I have tried removing the
display unit from the PB then removing the little rubber caps and
unscrewing the two black screws; after this, nothing seems to move.

Thanks

Tim
From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Best price for LC II?
Date: 12 Nov 92 08:53:53 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Where can you get the best deal on a Mac LC II, 4 RAM/80 HD (or better), 
and a 12" or 13" monitor?

I have a good friend who is looking into purchasing her first Mac.  She has 
a lot of experience with Macs and wants to get an LCII with a 12" or 13" 
monitor.

Please post any info. to this group or e-mail me at:
tims@bvc.edu (internet)

Thanks tons,

TIMS
From: lemke@radius.com (Steve Lemke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Does anybody have a 16-bit graphics card price list?
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:14:44 GMT

sakelley@euclid.ucsd.edu (Scott Kelley) writes:

>Several different people have written:

>>Anybody have a list of prices for good 16-bit color cards for a
>macIIci?
> 
>I could also use a list of 16-bit video cards that would work well in a
>IIci with a 13" monitor. One reason we 're interested in 16-bit cards is
>that we need 10-15 of them, and a difference of even $100 or so would
>make a big difference when we buy that many cards. Also, the whole
>reason we want a greater bit depth is for running QuickTime and JPEG
>pictures, and we can afford the loss in quality from 24->16 bits a lot
>easier than we can afford the cards themselves!

You should check out the Radius PrecisionColor 24Xp interface.  It will give
you 1, 4, 8, 16, and 24 bit depths on just about any 13" to 16" display.  It
works at 640x480, 800x600, and 832x624.  The board is so (relatively) inex-
pensive that it isn't worth it to offer it in an 8-bit or 16-bit configura-
tion, since at 24-bits it retails for only $599.

>Also, doesn't the new IIvx also support 16-bit color with 1mb VRAM
>installed?

I believe it does, but only on 12" and 13" displays.  It does not drive
16" displays at all.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Buying a big GREYSCALE monitor/card
From: chanson@mtlookitthat.chi.il.us (Chris Hanson)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:47:22 CDT
X-Mailer: Fernmail 1.1 (unregistered, shareware fee not paid)

Our local Authorized {IBM, Apple} Dealer was selling a used PS/2 Mono
Display 8507, which is a 19 inch 1024x768 greyscale monitor, for $300
used.  I'm in the market for a bigscreen display and video board right
now -- is there any NON-ACCELERATED frame buffer available that will
work with this beast or something like it?  Not that acceleration is
bad...  I'm just looking for low-cost and ease of support (since I'm
doing operating systems development work now & don't want to write
extra code just to put dots on the screen).

Also, I'm seeing a lot about these 'Sampo Two-Page Dispaly/Video Board
Combinations'.  Supposedly they were made for Hewlett-Packard -- are
they any good?  Should I look for one of those or something similar
instead?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE respond via e-mail, since I can post to this group
any time but only read it about twice a month.  Thanx for any info
anyone has to offer.

TTFN,
Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dmc@leland.Stanford.EDU (David M. Cannon)
Subject: macIIx internal hard drive power budget?
Keywords: macIIx power supply 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 21:29:53 GMT

Hi All,

Just a short question: I'm looking into dropping a second hard drive into
my macIIx; does anyone know offhand what the rated capacity of the internal
power connector for the machine is, so I can check to see whether it'll
handle both drives?

Thanks,

Dave Cannon
dmcannon@sunrise.stanford.edu
From: hcs+@cs.cmu.edu (Henry C Schmitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Help Connecting SPARC SCSI Devices
Summary: Need info. on connecting Disk & Tape
Keywords: SPARC SCSI Disk Tape
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:30:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BxGx2A.GB7.1
Organization: Engineering Design Research Center, Carnegie Mellon


	I've got a SPARCstation IPX with external CD-ROM and Tape
drives.  Is there any way I can connect these to my Mac IIci?  I
assume that I need cables and drivers.  Is that all?

	If this info. is already available, a pointer to where it is
would be fine.

				Thanx.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: 25 mHz IIsi--another success story
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:15:32 GMT

simsh@crockett1a.its.rpi.edu (Chewbacca) writes:
>I am ready to upgrade my computer, and will do so as soon as I receive my
>oscillator chip. I am very eager to do this 'cause it oughta be fun!
>The idea behind the original posting was that you put in an IC socket (cost
>me $0.38 with tax--ripped off!) so if the new chip don't work, put back the
>old one.

>For those of you who said you'll mess up the warranty, true, so wait till
>you get over a year old (mine just did a couple of weeks ago!)
*----
Ok, so warranty isn't a problem.  But Apple CPU's are very rarely repaired
at the component level.  Won't this modification affect your ability to get
a swap from an authorized Apple service center in the future?
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From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 68050
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 10:28:37 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com writes:

> I'm not
> saying that IBM PC's are fast ..... but the PC's are Personal Computers
> targeted towards home users .... the PC's use Intel chips (laugh laugh .... um
> no offense).  I was talking about speed in the sense of IBM RISC based
> workstations that use IBM RISC chips.  Get the idea??? Joe C.

And the R4000 or the Alpha aren't fast? The Intel P5 and P6 won't be
fast? Motorola couldn't come out with another generation of chips that
are as fast as the IBM RISC chips?

The reason that Apple has an alliance with IBM now has to do with corporate
alliances and shrinking market share for both companies, not with IBM's
technical expertise.

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dross@cambizola.cs.wisc.edu (Dan Ross)
Subject: Comments on Sigma SCSI portrait monitor?
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:56:28 GMT


Has anyone used the Sigma SCSI 15" monochrome portrait monitor?  Any comments
on speed, monitor quality, annoying features?

Can you use it with a compact mac and use both the portrait monitor and
builtin 9" display? 

Any comments on use with a Classic II are especially of interest.

(This is a portrait monitor which works with ANY mac--plugs into SCSI port,
 has SCSI interface built into monitor box.  Runs about $769 from 
 MacConnection.  Mainly useful for Plus, SEs with slot used, Classics and 
 PB 100/140/145/170, as other systems have less pricey cards.)

Dan
dross@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: noah@apple.com (Noah Price)
Subject: Re: II vx Vs Ci
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:19:20 GMT
Organization: (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

In article <1992Nov13.011032.136532@watson.ibm.com>, arsouth@watson.ibm.com
(Andrew R. Southwick) wrote:

> PDS Slot                Yes             No

To go along with that, you might add:

  Cache Connector         No              Yes

All currently shipping IIci's include a 32K cache card (plugged into this
connector).  Older IIci's (as you might find in the used market) may not.

> I seem to remember that the IIci was sold with a 128k external (i.e. in
> the cache slot) cache plugged in.  Please, no flames.  If you know, please
> post!  With source!

It's 32K from Apple (which is the one bundled with the currently shipping
IIci's).  Other vendors, however, sell caches for the IIci which are 32K,
64K or 128K.  I haven't seen any other sizes, but they certainly could
exist.  Source?  Me :-)

> ... P. Stadelmann mentioning the ROM
> in the IIvx allows use of a RAM disk, something I myself was provided through
> the OS, not hardware.

The ROM is really software too.  It's just software stored in chips rather
than on a disk.  You are correct that this feature is not provided by the
hardware; he is correct that it requires the software in the ROM.

> And I really do not appreciate your
> claim at my distributing falsehoods, giving the impression that you view my
> actions as malicious, or myself as uninformed.

Well, I agree that you weren't being malicious, but you might have prefaced
your list with a note that you weren't certain of some details and wanted
help verifying it and filling in any missing points -- more like what you
did the second posting!  Uninformed?  Nah -- I'd just say misinformed on
some details :-)

noah

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.mac
From: frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins)
Subject: Re: Please help with FRAUD case!  Beware!
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:02:44 GMT

All theoretically feasible but just as cumbersom as any dealings with
lawyers and the courts. The best cure for anything is to prevent it in the
first place. 

I posted a suggestion that a BBBBB (Bulletin Board Better Business Bureau)
could list the bad guys to stay away from. Measured by the underwhelming
response, the suggestion was as flyable as a lead balloon.

Whatever the Latin for it is, let both parties be paranoid.

Frank        

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