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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:45:43 -0500 
From: Nicolas Alejandro Arauz <na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Zoom 9002 Help!!!

I just bought a used Zoom 9002.  And I have a few questions.  First of
all, does anyone have a copy of the patch parameter chart that the could
perhaps send me over the computer or something?  Also, my other question
is that I'm afraid to overwrite any of the user patches, because the
user patches are all original patches compared to the preset patches,
and to overwrite them would mean losing them.  Is there anyway to get
back the default user patch once you write over it.  It's funny to say
this, but although it's cool to have the user patches as totally
original compared to the presets, it still causes a problem because you
don't want to lose them, especially when you like some of them more than
the presets -- a real dilema!  Thanks for any help you can give me on
this.  Also, one last thing.  Is it possible to get the pitch shifter
not to allow any of the original signal through?  Then the Zoom could
also be used as a transpose effect.  Thanks!
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: cbolton@csd475a.erim.org (Chris Bolton)
Subject: Ottman WHO?
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:09:37

  I was in a record store a long time ago (couple months), and they were 
playing a CD that featured Spanish sounding acoustic guitar with a distorted
electirc guitar soloingover it.  I asked a salesman, "Who is that?", and he
said, "Well, the electric guitar is Carlos Santana, but he is only making a
guest appearance on the record."  He then took me to the New Age section, and
showed me the album.  It was some guy named Ottman (?? something or other ??).
I wrote it down, including the album name, and then walked out of the store
intending to put the album on my Christmas wish-list, and, of course, promptly
lost the piece of paper with the info on it.  I'm pretty sure his first name
was Ottman, spelled just like that.  Anyone know who I'm talking about and the
name of the album that features Carlos Santana?

			Thanks for any info,

					Chris Bolton
					cbolton@csd475a.erim.org
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: drumsticking the plank
From: loman@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: 24 Dec 92 13:16:24 -0600
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax2.cstp.umkc.edu


Anybody out there know anything about playing guitar with a drumstick?  Has
anyone seen this done?  I've been playing around with this concept and have
developed quite a percussive style.  I would however like to see (and hear)
what other people have attempted...

Any leads?  I'll post tab if anyone wants it...

Do a cool yule....      Joe...
From: cmb@calmasd.prime.com
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Ottman WHO?
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:53:04 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego CA

In article <CBOLTON.92Dec21230937@csd475a.erim.org>, cbolton@csd475a.erim.org (Chris Bolton) writes:
> 
>   I was in a record store a long time ago (couple months), and they were 
> playing a CD that featured Spanish sounding acoustic guitar with a distorted
> electirc guitar soloingover it.  I asked a salesman, "Who is that?", and he
> said, "Well, the electric guitar is Carlos Santana, but he is only making a
> guest appearance on the record."  He then took me to the New Age section, and
> showed me the album.  It was some guy named Ottman (?? something or other ??).
> I wrote it down, including the album name, and then walked out of the store
> intending to put the album on my Christmas wish-list, and, of course, promptly
> lost the piece of paper with the info on it.  I'm pretty sure his first name
> was Ottman, spelled just like that.  Anyone know who I'm talking about and the
> name of the album that features Carlos Santana?
The CD in question is probably Luna Negro by Ottman Lieber.  If you enjoy
this music, check out Strunz & Farrah CD named Americas...

> 
> 			Thanks for any info,
> 
> 					Chris Bolton
> 					cbolton@csd475a.erim.org
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Subject: Re: Tube swapping/amp question
Summary: Tube swappin
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:49:58 GMT

In article <TOM.92Dec21114809@bailey.cpac.washington.edu>, tom@cpac.washington.edu (Tom May) writes:
> In article <1992Dec21.162618.24450@cbfsb.cb.att.com> kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew) writes:
> 
> 	   In the Carvin Im not sure, but in Marshall and Fender amps you could
> 	   always remove the 2 outside power tubes to reduce the power by 50%.
> 	   But you had better change the Impedence selector to compensate.
> 
> So, I'm running with four tubes into a 16-ohm load, with the impedance
> selector set to 16 ohms.  If the plate current of each tube is I and
> the 16-ohm speaker load as seen through the output transformer is R,
> the voltage dropped across the transformer primary is 2IR (since there
> are two tubes in parallel providing a total current of 2I).  If I remove
> the outside tubes without changing the impedance selector, the voltage
> across the primary would be just IR, which is probably a bad thing.
> In order to maintain the V=2IR relationship beteen plate current and
> voltage to keep the tubes happy, I have to twiddle the impedance
> selector to make R look twice as large (V=I*2R), which I can do by
> setting the selector to 8 ohms.  Right?
> --
> Tom, tube hacker in the making

	Uh Right! 
	I will have to check my notes8^)

	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!
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From: arb@presto.ig.com (Dan Arbios)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: guitar
Keywords: Les Paul
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:49:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.b
Organization: IntelliGenetics Inc., Mtn. View, Ca.


Anyone know what kind of pickups the Les Paul 1984 Studio custom's
carried?
The ones I see are gold plated on a black Les paul, but I'm not sure
of the type....thanks
Dan
From: css1rs@gondor.mcs.surrey.ac.uk (Russell Smithers)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: FAQ (NOT)
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:46:00 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I have allready expressed an interest on this front, I will do a FAQ but 
I need input from you lot as to what to put in it?
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: larryh@fawlty.lmc.com (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: Stupid Marshall/Bassman tricks???
Organization: eng
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:43:51 GMT

    Mark Hamer wrote:

>Incidentally, if the 4 inputs are of no use to you, you can always
>take one out and wire in a switch to turn the bright off and on.  On
>the other hand, I suppose that 1meg push-pull switching pots must be
>available from somewhere, and would let you keep your 4 inputs while
>being able to switch the brightness in or out.
>
    Try Torres Engineering for push/pull 1 Meg pots.

    As the owner of a "real" 1959 Bassman, I can tell you that the inputs
    have no difference in gain.

    - Larry Huntley

    P.S. Did anyone ever answer the question about the stuff used in old
         Fenders as a substrate for the "cordwood" style construction?
	 It was called "fish paper."  If you want more detail, let me know;
	 I'm old and can ramble on with the best of them.  - LH

-- 

       Larry Huntley / Logic Modeling Corporation / Beaverton, Oregon

    "You played golf; you watched football; you drank beer - WE evolved!"
From: richardw@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Richard Wolle)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:50:27 GMT
Subject: Re: SRV & Strings
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar

 i thought srv used a hardtail w/o tremelo.??


Xref: sparky alt.guitar:11073 rec.music.makers.guitar:1094
From: tespy@sw.stratus.com (Tony Espy)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Toys for SALE...
Date: 29 Dec 1992 19:31:53 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: orion.ts.stratus.com


   Black Strat-Body Steinberger - R-trem w/micrometer tuners ( double-ball ),
   2 EMG SA pickups ( single coil ), 1 EMG-89 ( humbucker/bridge ).  Plays
   really nice.  $650 or B.O.

   ==========================================================================

   Digitech Twin Tube pre-amp - 2 12Ax7 Groove Tubes, 9 tube/analog/digital
   effects ( compression, gain, saturation, 7-band EQ, noise gate, 
   chorus/delay/flange, speaker simulator ).  120 programs ( 60 preset, 60
   user-programmable ), MIDI.  $375 or B.O.


   e-mail: tespy@orion.ts.stratus.com
   phone:  (617) 926-9424 ( The Nasty Hole ) 
           (508) 460-2321 ( work )
From: stefan@ntg.com (Stefan Biskup)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings, what's the point?
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:41:27 GMT
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

In article <1992Dec17.223241.14784@athena.mit.edu> juggle@athena.mit.edu (furious axe demon) writes:
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but other than playing slide guitar, is there
>any reason other than basic laziness why one might want to use an
>alternate tuning other than the standard EADGBe?
>
>I would imagine that creative tunings can be used to greatly faciliate
>fingering some otherwise hard but interesting chords, like ninths, but
>that can't be all there is to it, is there?
>
>
>	Sincerely,
>	Joe G

 Well first of all you have to disgard the stupid notion, which regrettably
can be found all over this group, that to play guitar properly you must
be a finger gymnast. THAT IS NOT MUSIC THAT IS SHIT!!!!!!! music is about 
making sound and the exressive possibilities that lie within that. forgive
me Joe Your just the guy who got lucky, idon't mean this as a personal
flame. but there were some ssnide comments about Sonic Youth Janes Addiction
and the "alternative/experimental" genere that I passed up before, but
now I must speak. 

   The guitar is just a sound maker not a temple so drop the harder is better
attitude. what counts is the sound and it doesn't matter how you get it.
waht does matter is where it comes from for the artist. 

   Tuning is one way to open up the guitar to a wider range of sound making
possibilities.  not a lazy trick. The same goes for effects. All those
two story racks most super guitar gods use could be viewd as cruches
or as methods for opening up the noise you make. 

I n the end it matters most were your heart is. Actually I have to say that 
for the most part I find a good possitive attitude on this gruop but 
when i see shit like "they ought to learn how to play" I just feel sad.
sound is so much fun. It's the purest form of abstraction available to use
and capable of expressing so much more than EADGBe. be a musician not just
a gutarist with a narrow mind.


                                 IMO

                                 Stefan 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: "Jazzy" blues??
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:26:15 GMT

Go an get some T-Bone Walker recordings.  He was one of 
the first to merge blues into City Jazz and one of the best.
I'd also suggest some Count Basie, Duke Ellington recordings
there are some great guitar players on most of their stuff.

For contemporary recordings, try Duke Robillard's Swing album.
It's so tasty.

--------------------------------------
Maurice LaBiche   |   labiche@bnr.ca 

"The world is a strange place."
"Someone oughta sell tickets."
"I'd buy one!"
From: pvallado@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paolo Valladolid )
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings, what's the point?
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:45:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Both guitarists in King Crimson, Adrian Belew and Robert Fripp, have
been known to use alternate tunings extensively. I have no doubt
whatsoever as to whether either of these cats can *play* ;-)

Paolo
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Ibanez Iceman
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:23:07 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1gtilaINNcmg@transfer.stratus.com> tespy@sw.stratus.com (Tony Espy) writes:
>In article <HARPER.92Dec16134547@godot.think.com>, harper@godot.think.com (Jim Harper) writes:
>> Specifically I'd like to know wood type when it was made (aprox)
>> 
>
>  Don't know what kind of wood they're made of, but I think it's a 

Probably made of either ash or alder. I used to have a 1981 model Destroyer II
and I was told it was made of ash wood.

-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
=============================================================================
From: stephen@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Stephen Schimpf)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Ottmar Liebert (was Re: Ottman WHO?)
Date: 24 Dec 92 01:35:49 GMT
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy

In article <1992Dec23.105304.1062@calmasd.prime.com> cmb@calmasd.prime.com writes:
>In article <CBOLTON.92Dec21230937@csd475a.erim.org>, cbolton@csd475a.erim.org (Chris Bolton) writes:
>> 
>>   I was in a record store a long time ago (couple months), and they were 
>> playing a CD that featured Spanish sounding acoustic guitar with a distorted
>> electirc guitar soloingover it.  I asked a salesman, "Who is that?", and he
>> said, "Well, the electric guitar is Carlos Santana, but he is only making a
>> guest appearance on the record."  He then took me to the New Age section, and
>> showed me the album.  It was some guy named Ottman (?? something or other ??).
>> I wrote it down, including the album name, and then walked out of the store
>> intending to put the album on my Christmas wish-list, and, of course, promptly
>> lost the piece of paper with the info on it.  I'm pretty sure his first name
>> was Ottman, spelled just like that.  Anyone know who I'm talking about and the
>> name of the album that features Carlos Santana?
>The CD in question is probably Luna Negro by Ottman Lieber.  If you enjoy
>this music, check out Strunz & Farrah CD named Americas...

The name of the CD is "Solo para ti" by Ottmar Liebert and Luna Negra.

Stephen
(stephen@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu)
From: antikainen@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Alesis Quadraverb GT - good sounds?
Date: 2 Jan 93 17:08:20 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Hi!

I recently bought an Alesis Quadraverb GT. I have not had too much time yet to
learn how to use it the best possible way. Any suggestions for *good* sounds?
Likes and dislikes of it?
If somebody is willing to tell me all his parametres for that great great
chorus/reverb sound, I'd be happy to hear them.
Any advise concerning Quadra GT is appreciated. Oh yes, by the way, my guitar
is a Fender Strat deluxe plus.

Please email your answers. Thanks.

Tuomo
From: andrewl@cs.anu.edu.au (Andrew Longhorn (Vac Scholar))
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: HELP: String Bend = SNAP!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 22:55:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, ANU, Australia
Distribution: world
Reply-To: andrewl@cs.anu.edu.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: barnard.anu.edu.au

I wondered if there was a rule of thumb for using extra "support" fingers for
those string bends.

In just 3 days I broke the high E string twice. Right on the 16th fret.
I was practicing - "Cryin'" - Joe Satch. Which involves a lot of 1 step
bends in the 17th fret. I think what causes the break is having my 2nd
finger on the 16th and my third on the 17th. Is this probably it? or maybe the
backside of the 16th fretwire is too sharp?

Any help, in general, on string-bending technique would be appreciated.

I was using brand-new DR .9 strings.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: spock@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Steve Horvath)
Subject: Re: Stupid Marshall/Bassman tricks???
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:27:29 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.guitar

In article >, terry@pride386.PP.COM (Terry Lyons) writes:
> 
> Hmmm as I recall the instructions (suggestions) on the fender 
> "FUZZWHA" said to plug directly in to the plain channel(Showman) 
> or into the "Bass" channel and set your minimum volume there 
> then to the fuzzwha and in to the bright or effects channel
> just a side note
> terry

Can someone e-mail me the original Bassman trick article?  I also heard
of simple mods like pulling a preamp and putting a piece of tape over a
resistor.  I just heard this from a blues player where someone did it
for him, he did not know what resistor.  It was a 65 Super Reverb.

I also got some wierd results putting the patch cord between input 2
normal channel, and input 1 vibrato channel, plugging the guitar into
input 1 normal.  Is that the patch trick you're talking about?  It didn't
get much louder, just a drastic differnce in tones where the positions
of both volume knobs affected highs/lows.


-- 
  +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
  | Steve Horvath         |  Turn your underwear inside out......   | 
  | spock@homxc.att.com   |  Save water and detergent :-)           |
  +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
From: kevin@microm.UUCP (Kevin Price)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Travel Guitar
Date: 27 Dec 92 11:53:47 GMT
Organization: Micro Maintenance, Inc., Tempe, Az

2/3 the length of a regular guitar, which is smaller than it sounds.  Takes
a little getting used to due to the short scale and the extra fat strings
that are required to make the short sacle tune up properly.  Once you get
used to it, the Chiquita plays really well, and sounds great.  Don't
expect to play very far below the 12th fret, as those fret wires converge
rapidly down there.
My Chiquita was built really well. The tuning keys seem to have been
slapped on haphazardly, and are at slightly different angles to each other,
but every other detail is top notch.  It's so perfect that I'm afraid to
use the guitar for it's intended purpose, motorcycle road trips.  The 
original plan was to bungee the little beast in it's case on the back of
my motorcycle, but I'm afraid to hurt it.  It stays at home.
This beast is pretty expensive. I think mine cost about $350 or so, but
every since I heard of this guitar I've wanted on, so I went for it.
No regrets!
!
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Kevin Price                                            Micro Maintenance
kevin@microm.tnet.com                                  2465 West 12th Street #6
!asuvax!ennews!telesys!microm!kevin                    Tempe, Arizona  85281
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ec49726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Manny DeSoto)
Subject: Need info:Yamaha Attitude Standard 5
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:47:10 GMT

Hi all,

this is a posting for a friend of mine.

He is looking at a Yamaha Attitude Standard 5, which is a discontinued model
from what the salesman told him. It's being sold at $569. It's a bass 5 string
with P and J style pickups. 

Does anybody have any info on this guitar or owns this guitar? 
Also, is $569 a good price (I believe it's new.)?

Forgive me for any ignorance for I do not have any knowledge of guitars.

Please send all comments, answers, info to 

ec49726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Thanx in advance! 


Manny DeSoto                                 |  Life is what happens while 
NREMT-A, CPR/BLS - Instructor  ARC / AHA     |  you're making other plans.
University Of Illinois @ Urbana - Champaign  |      
Illini Emergency Medical Services            |    ec49726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

-- 
Manny DeSoto                                 |  Life is what happens while 
NREMT-A, CPR/BLS - Instructor  ARC / AHA     |  you're making other plans.
University Of Illinois @ Urbana - Champaign  |      
Illini Emergency Medical Services            |    ec49726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: is it possible to plug guitar into stereo (no special amp)?
Date: 1 Jan 93 13:07:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

A cd is a pre-recorded, mixed-down, compressed & limited source (as are records
and commercially available tapes).

A guitar, on the other hand, can be an uncontrolled beast (unless you process,
compress and limit the signal.)
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Travel Guitar
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:16:58 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Dec18.145209.16549@ods.com> johnw@ods.com (John Williamson) writes:
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions on where to find an electric guitar
>small enough for traveling with (i.e. fits in a suitcase) ?
>
>Any help would be appreciated.

The "Chiquita" travel-sized electric guitar (very short scale) which was
co-developed by Billy Gibbons (of ZZ Top) and Mark Erlewine (from Erlewine
guitars in Austin Texas, also brother of famous Dan Erlewine) might be just
what you're looking for. I think these were  mass produced under license by
Hondo (or Arbor or some other minor league import brand). If any of your 
local guitar shops have never heard of this guitar, you might try calling
directory assistance for Erlewine Guitars in Austin TX (Area code is 512, his
shop is on Guadelupe St, or was the last time I was in Austin) or you might
try contacting his brother Dan Erlewine (who I think lives somewhere in
Michigan) thru Guitar Player magazine (he writes articles for them from time to
time).


-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: smj@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: FORSALE: Epiphone Les Paul...
Organization: Super Dimension Fortress - Public Access Unix - Dallas, Tx.. 
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:58:45 GMT

1992 Les Paul standard... antique sunburst, soft case gibson gig bag..
excellent shape... make an offer

-- 
Stephen M. Jones (214)436-4622  
smj@sdf.lonestar.org <Cs&E> 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass
From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: is it possible to plug guitar into stereo (no special amp)?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: 27 DEC 92 09:37:12    


In article <1992Dec24.125253.18823@husc3.harvard.edu>, mlevin@husc8.harvard.edu (Michael Levin) writes...
> 
>I am just wondering if it is possible to plug an electric guitar into
>your stereo, instead of having a special amp for it. Is this possible?

This is becoming a real FAQ.

Yes it is possible.  Use the "aux" input.  Play at low volumes.  The one thing
that can be damaged doing this is your speakers.  So use phones if you want to
crank, they're at least cheaper to replace.


					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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