From: scythe@byron.u.washington.edu (The Grim Reaper)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Input wanted on a combat scenario
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:29:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct16.152937.1341
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <s892341.719198376@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> s892341@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Matt=Goodall) writes:
>Geoffrey@yvax.byu.edu writes:
>
>>For the "Giant"...good luck, the rules just aren't exact on what he's trying
>>to do.  I once had a paladin who had a girdle of storm giant strength, boots of
>>striding and springing and a very nice pair of spiked gauntlets.  He liked to
>>have others distract evil dragons.  While their backs were turned, he'd fling
>>himself on to the tops of their backs.  With his legs wrapped around their
>>necks, he'd begin to hit them in the back of the head.  The gloves, because
>>they were metal and spiked, did actual damage rather than pummeling damage...it
>>was small but the strength bonus is what actually did the trick.  I'm not sure
>>how many punches you'd allow in a melee round, we used 6.  That was a total of
>>70+ pts. of damage in one round.  The dragon couldn't escape because my legs
>>were 24 strength and tightly wrapped around his neck, not to mention the fact
>>that it's questionable whether his arms could reach me.  I really couldn't miss
>>because his head was right in front of me and didn't bob around at all. 
>
>This is so blatantly stupid I just had to respond:
>1: You get 1 attack per round (or more if a fighter) just because you are
>punching it doesn't mean you get extra attacks.
This is the only correct thing you said.
>
>2: Dragons are very strong as well so it could get you off if it was big enough
>and strong enough.
He is sitting on the back of the dragon's head.  Kinda hard for the
dragon to hit him or breathe on him....
>
>3: Couldn't miss!!! oh right, you only have to get through it's hide and it's
>10" of skull to hurt it. You still have to hit it!!!
Yeah, he'd have to make a hitroll, but with a large bonus.....
>
>and now for the less silly: 
>
>4: The dragon let you get behind it, chuckle!
Hmmm... stupid dragon
>
>5: You climbed a dragon while it was moving and stomping, not very easy!
He did have boots of striding and springing, plus the dragon was distracted...
>
>6: The dragon turns it's head and breathes on you! :-(
How?  He's sitting on the dragon's head!
>
>7: The dragon rolls over, take 10d10 damage, :-)
You jump off in time and stab the dragon in it's underbelly.  It takes 
lotsa damage.
>
>So spiked gauntlet (d4) plus str damage at +2 to hit (behind etc) every round,
>big deal!
With a 24 str?
>
>>Nonetheless, the referee was confused and didn't really know what to do about
>>it.  It just wasn't in the rules.
>>Good Luck!
>>Geoffrey Eastbrook. 
>
>I would recommend you 1: reread the rules and 2: get a DM who knows what
>they're doing!
>
>Matt
>-- 
>Matt Goodall
>s892341@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
>Famous last words: "Who's the bitch with the spiders?"
I'd recommend you think things over before you flame.........

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