From: ahu@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Amy Hu)
Subject: RE: Freedom or persecution
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:01:34 GMT


>>
>>My only concern, which
>>is similar to the above poster, is that Mr. Yeh's Constitutional Rights have
>>been violated.

>I don't think Mr. Yeh's Constitution Right has been violated. What
>is your evidence of this charge? He has been free to post any radical
>article in the net and no body bothered to care about it too much.

>However, people feel that he has probably abused his right of free
>speech. For example, he is allegedly to have violated other people's
>right for employment which could be personally demaging.

I don't think you understood my article entirely, or may be you just want to
cut out pieces of it so that you'll have a target to flame on.  Should latter
be the case, then sorry pal, I'm not going to waste my time.  Perhaps you
should re-read my article.  I believe I said something about "if you don't
agree with Mr. Yeh, take him to court".  Talk is CHEAP you know.

>My question is the following: what would be your reaction if someone
>send a letter to your boss which may end up your lossing the job?

Hey, if you really have the ability to keep your job, I don't think anybody
can take it away from you.  However on the other hand, if you're an imbecile,
you don't need anybody to send your boss a letter to lose a job.  You sounded
like you're feeling insecure of your current job.

>>As an American citizen and growing-up in the States most of my
>>life, I strongly believe in an individual's right for freedom of speech; and
>>this right is given to all people dwelling on this land of freedom.  Whether
>>or not Mr. Yeh made any repulsive remarks to anybody, he should be granted the
>>freedom to express his opinion.

>Your statement here sounds arrogant. Most people under this Bill can become
>a citizen of this country. They will have equal right, no more and no less
>than you, in a few years. You belief is right. It is also my belief even
>I am not an American citizen and did not grow up most of my life in this
>country. I don't see how your claiming that you are a citizen and grow
>up most of life in here could make your statement any stronger. It only
>shows your arrogance. If that is your basis, the only thing I can tell
>you is that my son could be more arrogant in front of you, because
>he is a born American.

Frankly I can care less where your son was born.  For all I know he might be
the next president of the United States.  I think you're having problem
understanding the context of the article.  Folks, this is a typical
example of a Chinese old lady trying to compare her merchandise with her
neighbors.  I believe you had some sort of education.  If not, I think you
need to go back to school and learn how to refute an article.

>>If you find his remarks offensive or
>>out-of-line, then take legal action.
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I guess this is exactly what was suggested. No body in this net has
>suggested that Yeh should be assasinated.
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^

Since when LEGAL ACTION became ASSASSINATION??????????  More education,
definitely!!!!!!


>>Since most of
>>you are now probably in the process of obtaining a green card, maybe it's
>>time for you to learn how to accept criticisms, discrimination, and the rest
>>of the package that comes with your card, because those are the realism of
>>democracy believe it or not.

>This is arrogant again. I don't think you became citizen of this country
>because you are willing to accept discrimination and "rest of the package".
>It makes me to wonder if you are the person who is going to offer the
>"rest of the package".

>I can only tell you the following. When these people have decided to
>stay here, they must have balanced their interest. Some of them may
>not be as successful, but some will. Probably some will be much better
>than you. America will still be proud of them just like anyone else
>who has contributed to this country.

Hey Mr., life is not always the way you want it to be.  If you can live
happily, and not so defensively, I'm sure you can tolerate discrimination.
It's inevitable, unless you're white (even white people experience
discrimination).  I hope you're not implying that you're only interested in
the "part of the package" that's beneficial to you and not the rest, because
that's not going to work.  By the way, as a citizen, I do have the previledge
of having my voice heard through voting, even though it is very minute.  I
hope when you get yours, you can do the same.


>>If you can't bear what I have just said, perhaps you don't belong in this
>>country afterall.

>They bear as long as everyone here would bear. They should react to
>any thing wrong just like any American would react. No more and no less.


>Xiao Li

I'm confused here.  Who are they and who's everyone???  I hope you're not
trying to speak for everyone in your country, and in this country.

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