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From: rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2.3)
Summary:  someone out there knows the answer ....
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:15:00 GMT

>  rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:
>> 
>> and strong enough to say the 3 most powerful words in the english language, 
>> and mean them whole-heartedly.
>> 
well i can't believe no one has said the ones i was thinking of -- or 
should i wait for the gentleman who read them to supply us all with the 
answer?  (the one with the very large phone bill ...)

"hold the mayo" has got to be the most original guess.

also i want to add a third "strong" : 
strong enough to wait for me, as long as it takes.

p.s. -- note that one newsgroup is no longer part of the list, due to some 
very odd communications.

"Well, I'd like to be with you,
 And you know it's Friday too ..."
	Janet Jackson, "Escapade"

Rosemary Warren		rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca
Montreal's Favorite Jacksonmaniac !!!
(because topaz is in a coma)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: rcano@bnr.ca (Bob Cano)
Subject: Re: Where did you meet your SO?
Reply-To: rcano@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa, Fibre Systems Development
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 02:27:28 GMT

In article < many >, Lots of people write  
|> 
|> I met my current SO ... 
|> 
I met the love of my life on May 30. 1970, when we faced each other 
at a high school debate. Her school had come from Toronto to Ottawa
for the debate. We carried on an LDR for a year and a bit, until
she joined me at university. Next August we will celebrate our
20th wedding aniversary.

We still haven't settled which one of us won in the debate. I had
top individual score, but her team won.
-- 
Bob Cano           Bell-Northern Research    | When all else fails,   
rcano@bnr.ca       P.O. Box 3511, Stn. C     | read the instructions.
                   Ottawa, Ontario, Canada   | 
(613)763 4086      K1Y 4H7                   |   
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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2)
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:02:33
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
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In-reply-to: rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca's message of 7 Jan 93 19:36:00 GMT

In article <7JAN199314362783@vax2.concordia.ca> rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:

   In article <7JAN199314211478@vax2.concordia.ca>, rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes...
   >>-------------------------
   >the above, plus strong enough to scoop me up into his arms. 
   >	(and i might weigh more than he does!)

   and strong enough to say the 3 most powerful words in the english language, 
   and mean them whole-heartedly.

"I got rhythm"?
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
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From: bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (THIS SIDE DOWN)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:35:04 GMT
Followup-To: alt.romance
Organization: The People's Number Four Cat Farm, Berkeley CA, USA

rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:

>>>>>******************************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>Strong enough to keep from *breaking* a heart, through thoughtlessness,
>>>>>lack of love, or indifference....
>>>>>
>>>>>****************************************************************** 
>>>>>T.R. Stone
>>>
>>>Strong enough to admit when he is weak.
>>>Lady Firebird
>>-------------------------
>the above, plus strong enough to scoop me up into his arms.

>	(and i might weigh more than he does!)


Isn't that a given for the alt.romance denizens?
-- 
real address: bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us
last choice:  lll-winken!catnip.berkeley.ca.us!bandy

"Free at last!  Free at last!  Thank God Almighty I'm free at last!"
 -- M. L. King
Newsgroups: alt.romance,talk.religion.misc
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: False Dialectic
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:51:16 GMT

fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Fippen) writes:
] 
] >       sex is not love
] >       love is not sex
] >       ---------------
] >       but oh don't you love sex
]
]         Yes Jason, I love sex. But the point is:Love is a thousand times
] greater than sex.Should we take sex, which is easy, and give up our quest for
] love? More than half of all people do this, and it gives up love. Stupid!!
]               John Fippen
] 

I think You might wish to get past this mannichean 
herasy and learn a little bit about what is going
on in the bible. May I recommend the epistles of Paul.

If you presume that 'sex is easy' than clearly you have
a lot to learn about that matter. And if you are of the
opinion that you can sum how segment them and quantize
them as you have done, you understand neither of them
very well at all.

That you can not laugh at the irony and comedy that
is life, scares me most of all....

ciao
drieux


-- 
MajorModernDayProblems: 
Just because you are a homicidal maniac
doesn't mean you don't have a sense of humor.
		- Barry Sadler
From: eng10276@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAM CHUAN YAP)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Testing
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:10:42 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

This is a test too. 
Hope all of you don't mind me typing some junk here. 
Thanks.
 
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: virgo@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (P. Virgo)
Subject: Anatomy of a Relationship Gone Bust...
Organization: Metters Industries, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:51:32 GMT

Once upon a time a man and a woman met in college dated for two years,
and the man,through sheer stupidity, got fed up with the woman for asking
about spending some time together every once in awhile--he was so caught up
in his budding computer career--and told her to leave. Tearfully she did...

And right after, he kicked himself in the head for being such a bonehead...

But, they spent the next six years staying close--helping each other through
difficuly times, other lovers, hopes and dreams--and talked often about resuming
the relationship--but never acted on it...

Then comes fall of 1992. And God and the fates decide that both should give it
another try. Both people had changed;gained new awareness. They were ablt to 
share their feelings for each other and decide to have a relationship--noc
committment just yet--maybe after a year(gotta adjust to new ideas/etc.).

All is well--until New Year's Eve. Then she changes. Completely. No smile.
Very withdrawn. He isn't sure what's going on and writes her a letter asking
what has happened. She calls him at work and says that she will talk,but 
basically, she doesn't care about him anymore--that she had forced "all those
feelings". He isn't convinced---goes to see her this past Sunday, asks if
they can talk. She says that she's said all she needs to say. He still
persists, so she comes down and faces him. Says she thinks it should be
over--it's a gut feeling that she has...he leaves it at that,kisses her
goodbye. Comes to work Monday and writes this---there are probably spelling/
grammatical errors--sorry. He isn't as hurt as he was last week---but,still...

He really wanted this to work....

Oh well...

Sorry, John Fippen, you were rooting for Yvette and me awhile ago--guess
it didn't work out...but I'll always be grateful for your initial support...

p.e. virgo
-- 

d.j. NetBoy
Metters Industries
Arlington, VA 22202
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From: cs64wag@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2)
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:46:50 GMT
Followup-To: alt.romance
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1993Jan7.211925.7885@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin) writes:
>
>In article <7JAN199314362783@vax2.concordia.ca> rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rose
>mary from Montreal) writes:
>>
>>and strong enough to say the 3 most powerful words in the english language,
>>and mean them whole-heartedly.
>>
>
>
>hhhmmmmmmm.......FUCK....OFF....BITCH....?????



A little bitter, are we?    8^)





-Jeremy
From: al357@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John H. Whitehouse, Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Free BBS for singles
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:18:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


There is a FREE, confidential BBS for singles that allows
complete anonymity.  Requires mailed registration, though to
confirm real name and age so that sysop knows who you are.
No one else knows.
 
Allows classified ads, electronic mail and computer matching.
 
Electronic Dreams BBS 216-356-8738 38400,N,8,1.
 
Check it out !
From: R_WINES@TRZ860 (Rodney Wines)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Love is giving, not taking.
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:27:00 GMT
Organization: Alcatel STR AG, Switzerland
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <C0Ap68.JJx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

>         ... Sex is easy 
> to find; just go down to your local bar and you will find plenty to oblige,

Is the voice of experience? What bar do you go to again, John?

>         Sex (lust) is of the body, glandular in nature, and is easily 
> satisfied.

Well, you DID say in one of your earlier posts that you're 70 years old ...

> Love is of the heart (soul), and is satisfied only with that one  person
> with whom your heart is joined, and love will endure as long as you  live.
> It is not a temporary joining of the hearts, but something to be with you 
> as long as you live.

Here's a Dorothy Parker poem you might like.  I found it in "alt.quotes"
just last night:

	Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,
	A medley of extemporanea;
	And love is a thing that can never go wrong;
	And I am Marie of Roumania.

> I simply don't believe I could be an old man and alone; it would be too
> much to bear.

Well, I'm growing old.  I'm still a few years behind you, but percentage
wise, I'm catching up.  Survival does take some work, but I take comfort
from another Dorothy Parker poem:

	Razors pain you;
	Rivers are damp;
	Acids stain you;
	And drugs cause a cramp.
	Guns aren't lawful;
	Nooses can give;
	Gas smells awful;
	You might as well live.


> I love my wife and gladly give to her everything that I have, and she has
> done the same for me. We have total harmony, respect,  and support for each
> other; our closeness is total, our fidelity absolute; all of this can be
> put in one word: LOVE.

But you still have to have "alt.romance"? :-)

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From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,soc.couples,soc.singles,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? and RESPECT!
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:59:38 GMT
Organization: OFSA

earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mark Earhard) continues:

>In article <1993Jan5.001141.24725@news.columbia.edu> rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston) writes:
>>The problem is that there are people who believe that everyone should
>>be respected, regardless of whether or not respect has been earned.
>
>Well... but... so... ok...  Why *not* just respect everyone, don't you
>think that would be respectable?  There are lots of contexts for respect,

Why not just respect them initially until they prove themselves
unworthy of respect, if that occurs?

>for anyone/thing you deem unrespectable.  ie:  I deem stoplights are 
>unrespectable, therefor I will not respect them or what they stand for.

I don't respect stoplights or stopsigns if no one else is near...hey,
it's only logical, right? Why stop and wait a couple minutes for
nothing? *shrug*

Steve
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: djd7889@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Douglas J. Deutsch)
Subject: Re: Dating Survey REPOST (2 questions)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
Date:  6 Jan 1993 14:32 EST  


>1) How many people did you date before you met the person you ended up 
>with (hopefully permanently) and how old were you when you met?  People 
>that you only dated once count in the total.  For you real studs and 
>studettes just try for a reasonable estimate.

Dated 7 people before I met the person I ended up with (permanently :) )
We were both 20 when we met.

>2) Approximately what percent of the people that you meet/date do you 
>feel have real possibilities of being a potential permanent partner? 

100%.  If I didn't feel they had real possibilites of permanence, then I
wouldn't date them in the first place.



DJD

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From: marie.silveira@madness.network23.com (Marie Silveira) 
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: RE: ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: marie.silveira@madness.network23.com (Marie Silveira) 

Love can grow out of Friendship.

I started college this year.  I met the man I am now in love with on the
first day of orientation.  We became good friends.  He was my best
friend there for the first few months of school.  I was involved in
another relasionship at the time, but I was having major problems with
it.  My other friends at college kept telling me:  You and Rob would
make a great couple", but he was my best friend, and I didn't think of
him as anything more than that.  Well the relasionship I was involved in
got worse and worse, until I broke it off.  My friends at college said
"You and Rob will probably end up together", but I thought nothing of
it.  My old boyfriend came back begging so we gave it another shot, and
again it wasn't working.
     Then I realised my feelings for Rob were growing.  It was very
strange.  I didn't expect it.  He was my best freind, why was I suddenly
attracted to him?  Well, I called it quits on the other relasionship,
but I had no clue how Rob would react when he realised how I felt about
him.  I flirted with him, subtly at first to see how he would react.  He
responded.  I was pleasantly surprised to discover that his feelings for
me were growing also.
     Our feelings continued to grow, and are getting stronger everyday.
We've fallen in love, and it feels wonderful.  We get along great
because we were best friends before we fell in love.  \
        Love can definetely grow out of friendship, and it'[s the best
thing that's ever happened to me.  It's definetely the best relasionship
I've ever had.

---Marie
                                                                                      
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: rcmarab@athena.mit.edu (He Whose Name Is Not Spoken)
Subject: Re: Different Cultures and Dating 
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:55:57 GMT

Here is an interesting response I got regarding interracial relationships.
I thought I would share excerpts with you minus the username and location
of the sendcer.

Enjoy.  Please post your comments or email them to the below address.

In article <1993Jan4.153744.1667@athena.mit.edu> you write:
>
>Would people care to chronicle their experiences, if any, on interracial
>relationships?  I'm talking about everything - interactions with you/SO,
>reactions from parents, friends, etc.  Please post your responses, as I am
>sure other folks are curios as well.
>

  Hmmm....Well, I for one am curious, too.  A couple months ago, i met this
girl through the net.  I'm in Canada, and she's in Pittsburg, I'm Caucasian
and she's Chinese.  Well, we got along great!  I, for one don't have a
problem with the interracial thing, and neither did she.  Actually, I don't
think anyone I talked to thought anything of it, including my roomates and
my parents.  The only people who did have a problem with it were her parents
and they told her that they didn't think it was a good thing for us to be
getting involved.  So she respects her parents a lot, and ..... (long story)
... now we're friends.  Maybe this isn't what you were looking for but it's
the only one that I've had (yet).  As for interactions between the two of
us, we used the network talk program and were able to talk to each other for
hours (many) at a time.  I spent about 4 or 5 hours a day talking to her,
for about a month.  (Before exams).  

  I'm wondering what kind of reaction people will give regarding this as
it's something that I've been thinking *a lot* about ever since the LJBF.

Thanks... still looking....

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From: marie.silveira@madness.network23.com (Marie Silveira) 
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: RE: WHERE DID YOU MEET YO
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:31:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: marie.silveira@madness.network23.com (Marie Silveira) 

I met my SO on the first day of Orientation at college.  He was in my
peer group, and was in my BioChem class.  We got along well when we met
during orientation, so we picked each other to be lab partners in that
class....  I have to say it's the most succesful lab parnership I've
ever had :).  We became best friends, then started dating.  We've been
dating for a couple of months, and it is the most wonderful relasionship
I've ever had  :)

---
Marie
From: ghosty@terapin.com (Noah Hanna)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Romantic pics
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:36:05 PST
Organization: BBS

There were requests for romantic ASCII artwork during the summer and some cool
things showed up, unfortunately, the wrong disks got formatted and I don't have
any of those cool roses or anything anymore, if someone could please mail
something to me I'd appreciate it, I can't keep up with this newsgroup because
of school so mail is the only way that I would get it. I am especially
interested in the roses, seeing as Valentine's is just around the corner.
Thanx!...

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: barrett@server.cs.jhu.edu (Dan Barrett)
Subject: Re: Honest Question - I'm no pervert .......
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 05:35:37 GMT

In article <C0K798.13E@brunel.ac.uk> cs91nna@brunel.ac.uk (Nisar Ahmad) writes:
>Ok you go out alot, clubs, pubs, societies etc - and say in a night club
>(could be anywhere - but take this example) - you see a 'good looker'. How
>do you make the first move without looking tacky and all the other
>defamatory remarks that are associated with the unsuccessful first approach.

	Just walk up and say "Hi."

	In a scientific survey done by a university friend of mine, this was
judged by men AND women to be the most effective way to start a conversation
in such places.  It's honest, and it means "I am interested in talking to
you."  You will get immediate feedback whether this person is interested in
talking to you or not.  What could be better?

	The only difficulty with this approach is that you have to conquer
your fears for about 30 seconds.

                                                        Dan

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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:06:07 GMT

In article <d=_3p5m@rpi.edu> petitc@vccnw03.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
 writes:
>  Personally, I feel a guy should be strong enough (emotionally, not physicall
y
>, right?  Or did I misunderstand the question?) so that he can both be his own
>person and also be willing to risk his ego for that ephemeral, beautiful thing
>that we call love.
>
Geeeeee, how cute.

sorta makes me want to........
-- 
"If I wanted your criticism....it was in my former life."
Steven J Orlin                   /\  /\  /\  /\  /\  /\
sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu/  \/  \/  \/  \/  \/  \
From: shalafi@clinet.fi (Vesa Vainio)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Equality - Let's get serious
Date: 4 Jan 1993 19:18:59 +0200
Organization: Clinet, Espoo, Finland.
NNTP-Posting-Host: clinet.fi


  The subject lines say, that you have been talking about equality.
Is it true? No it isn't. You have been talking mostly about women
in war. I will not comment that discussion, because I think
alt.romance is not a place for such.
 
  Actually, what does equality mean? Does it mean that women and men
should get paid equally for doing an equal job? Does it mean that
women and men should be treated perfectly equal everywhere? Or what?
 
  Just a few points for you to consider... "When men begin to bring
forth babies, then women and men will be equal." (I heard this from
a girl..) If I were equal with my SO, would it mean that I wouldn't
be escorting her home after spending an evening at my place? She
doesn't escort me home when we've spent evening at her place..
 
Just me and my opinions..
 
(Please forgive my English, it's only my second language..)
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