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From: kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Dan Rathers the acid head...(was 48 hours)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:31:08 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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mbrownel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Mark Brownell) writes:

>BTW, isn't it odd that Dan (What-is-the-Frequency) Rather neglected to
>mention that he had taken LSD.

Really ?   Did he admit to it in the past or is that an accusation
others have made or what ?  The first famous people I have known that
have done acid where all mentioned on 48 hours.  Jack Nicholson, Cary
Grant, and a few others.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: kyle@Ingres.COM (Kyle Smith)
Subject: Nitrous headaches
Reply-To: kyle@Ingres.COM (Kyle Smith)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: ca
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:43:14 GMT

	I have seen threads lately about nitrous use. Personally I don't like
	this stuff because of the headaches I get about 10 minutes after the
	initial buzz has worn off. Does anyone else experience this? It is so
	bad for me that I choose not to partake when everyone else is
	sucking on balloons...
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:46:08 GMT

In article <mtymp15.726114575@staff.tc.umn.edu> mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton) writes:
>In <1i5rt9INN8e2@mirror.digex.com> curt@access.digex.com (curt williams) writes:
>
>Hold on.... a question about N2O and Reddi-WHip coming from a fan of whippets:
>
>How many cans of Reddi-Whip does it take to get a good, full, N2O hit?
>
Well, here is one thing I can relate to....

When I was a bit younger, I worked for a convenient store called united Dairy
Farmers here in OHIO... Their pride and joy is their Ice Cream sales...
Anyway, we would use Whipped Cream a lot, about 10-15 bottles a day at our
store.  Well, at the end of the day (or whenever we were slow) we would take 
turns doing cans... when there was no whipped cream left, there was still
a significant amount of nitrous left in the can.  You can get a nice buzz off
1-2 cans, that would last between 5-10 minutes.  Not bad for a little fun.

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From: cb@wixer.cactus.org (Cyberspace Buddha)
Subject: Re: query re: drugs and us security cleara
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 00:39:36 GMT

pjm9806@ucs.usl.edu (Mejia Pablo J) writes:
>  When I underwent my clearance interview in 1980, I admitted to the use of
>  everything that I had tried.  This included most rec.drugs except for the
>  opiates.  I was cleared for a TS-SBI clearance, with limited crypto...
>

I admitted to having smoked pot and still had no trouble <that I know of>
getting a Top Secret so I could fix the good ol' Minuteman phallus.

>  When I was on active duty, we used to hide our hash inside of the CY-104
>  Cryptographic multiplexers.  There were only 4 people on base cleared to
>  look at the insides of that beast, and we all got high.  My CO was not 
>  cleared for the cy-104.  If things would have gotten sticky (dogs alerting
>  on  the crypto multiplexers) they would have had to bring in the CO from
>  the Ramstein crypto unit to inspect our equipment.....
>
>  Of course, the guys (crypto repairers) from the Ramstein unit used to
>  run hash and opium across the Turkish border with diplomatic passports.
>  (All crypto materiel has diplomatic privilges, and half their manuals
>   and all their equipment was crypto-classified).

hmmm...  I wonder why the above doesn't really surprise me.
mebbe I'm just a cynic at heart.

cb
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:30:51 GMT
X-Posted-From: vango.fnal.gov
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In article <1993Jan7.213040.3735@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
> kennedj@seq.uncwil.edu (kennedy j shane) writes:
> 
>>THe kid with the ten-year sentence was bullshit.  He'll never serve 
>>over a year in our crowded prisions for a non-violent crime.  Sounded
> 
> 	It's as real as anything.   Drug convictions will get you 
> way more time than violence, and it's real time too, ie you are 
> on the bottom of the early release list.
> 
>>like a big scare to me.  The part about doing time for the weight
>>of the paper you were busted with was kindof shitty also.  I know
>>a dude who was selling it on sugar cubes.  He'd really get screwed.
> 
> 	If you put it in a glass of OJ, they'd weigh the OJ.
> 
> Jim D


tell me about it... I have a friend in California who accidentally dropped 
a tab of acid in his pool.

He got life plus 5k.

good thing he lived around Mount Shasta and not on Santa Catalina!


What if you dropped acid on the moon?!?



r.m
From: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Red stuff from Suadi...
Date: 6 Jan 1993 22:56:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
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I recently had a friend come back from Suadi Arabia with some red stuff in 
plastic containers, it looks loike it might be purchased in a store, and he
says that everyone over there smokes it.
Unfortunatly we don't know what to do with it. With him he also brought a
Arabian water pipe...(great looking device), which we filled with the red
stuff. Oh....!! by the way it smells like strawberries and looks like red
cabbage. It gave us a headache and no particularly ill effects, but it was
impossible to light without using a flamethrower. 
-- 
One can only truly appereciate moderation until they have experinced excess!
Games without frontiers, War without Tears<==Peter Gabriel
I see you lying to me... Death to the weakling! Wealth to the strong!
disclaimer:===> This is all a lie and I don't believe a word of it......!!!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Joe)
Subject: Re: God and alcohol
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: U. Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:42:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.191818.22119@linus.mitre.org>,
lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) wrote:
> Parents: "I'm sorry, Milo, but we sent your college fund in to Reverend Jim."
> 
> Rev. Jim (on TV): "You must have *faith* that God will take care of you. 
>     Everything will work out.  Send me that money in your checking account!
>     Sell that second car!  Re-finance your house!  Don't you owe it to God?

Please save your bitter and paranoid perspective of religion for
alt.atheism.

Your little scenario here which you use to condemn all those that believe
in 
God is quite like the anti-drug propagandists stating that all those who
ingest
LSD will jump out of a window. 


Joe
From: ron@cs.tamu.edu (Ron J Theriault)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: rules for LSD
Date: 11 Jan 1993 23:29:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Texas A&M University
Distribution: world
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From: "amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
>  ....
> She told me about these stories where she and some friends
> were cooking spaghetti and would stick thier hands in the boiling
> water and... Excuse me but I think it's just because she has no common
> sense when she's sober, so she's not going to have any when she's high
> either.  *grin*  

Andrew Weil in his book "The Marriage of the Sun & Moon", has a
few interesting stories about doing things while high on LSD,
such as running over sharp stones with bare feet without feeling
any pain, (or suffering any injury).  It's believable that your
friend could get away with sticking her hand in boiling water 
without harm.  
I doubt very much she could fly, or walk in front of cars however.
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: 60's tolerance
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 03:44:25 GMT

In article <1imtf8INNqtn@tamsun.tamu.edu> ron@cs.tamu.edu (Ron J Theriaul
) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.4616.23628@dosgate>, "derek finlay" <derek.finlay@c
nrem.com> writes:
>|> ... The last cycle
>|> started at the turn of the century when cocain and heroin could be
>|> bought at your local apothecary shop along with a hypo if you did it
>|> that way... then it became illegal then and frowned upon. The sixites
>|> rolled on and tollerance was high again, alot of people wanted to and
>|> did try it. Now tolerance is very low... 
>
>   Where do people get this idea that psychoactive drug use was 
>tolerated in the 60's?  MJ has been illegal since the 30's,
>and in the early 60's, very few people *knew* about LSD.
>(Of course there was no net news either.)  Narc paranioa,
>and egregeous sentencing were invented in the 60's.
> 
>
>-- 
>----------- 10-4 --------------


 Yeah, the 60's sucked and the nostalgia for the 60's really makes me
puke... :-)

St. Anthony

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         |   \ |  || Ph               chlani izbrani
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From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: freon
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:24:12 GMT
Summary: Just legalize marijuana and forget freon! 

In article <1993Jan9.043525.21404@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (the future is now.....) writes:
>Somewhere in Cyberspace, ba@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu said about 'freon':
>|
>|all this talk about Nitrous Oxide brings a question to mind.  A friend
>|of mine was telling me <after many whippits> that he has achived the same
>|affects, if not stronger, by inhaling freon from ye old heat pump.  Has
>|anyone done this.  I am sure it is bad for you, but HOW bad?  does anyone
>|have any info or experience in this area?      
>|
>|reply via e-mail if you want.
>|
>|ba@gnu.ai.mit.edu
>
>I don't want to be the Lifestyle Police or anything, but, 5 years ago
>a friend's older brother died from this at my high school.  3 years
>ago, a friend of mine died from something involving a fire
>extinguisher.  So, personally, I've chosen to stay away from inalants
>altogether.  I don't have any more specific info regarding to what
>extent freon and whatever-else was used, so I can't tell you what a LD
>or whatever would be, but..... Anyway, from my own personal FOAF
>experiences, inhalants don't seem to be worth it.  What's wrong with
>marijuana and stuff....At least you know that you won't die from
>direct use of it....
>
>--
>
>    ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu	        FutureCulture:  In/f0rmation
>    ahawks@mindvox.phantom.com		future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu
>
     I have heard of inhaling Freon as an alternative to Nitrous, but I don't
know how effective it would be.  Obviously it must be fairly effective if it
was powerful enough to kill someone.  It seems that Nitrous isn't very easy
to get a hold of, and freon is.  You can go to your local car dealer and buy
a can of it for charging your car's air conditioner.  A friend of mine had
the idea to try it, but I was reluctant.  
     Marijuana is no problem, and you won't die from a direct use from it.
The only reason we even considered freon or nitrous is because we couldn't get
any marijuana that particular weekend.  If the stuff was -LEGAL-, we wouldn't
have to go on "cheap high alternative" searches!  If they made marijuana legal
I bet a lot fewer people would be inhaling all kinds unsafe gases, but that's
just my opinion.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bagg@ellis.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Subject: Re: War on Drugs Project
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:06:27 GMT

In article <MfGT8mW00iV0I3U0lf@andrew.cmu.edu> Michel Fougeres <mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>The baseline is this:  I'm doing a project on the War on Drugs through the
>1960s to present.  I need help though, I need information.  If any of you
>have specific information pertaining to this subject (if it has a source you
>can give me, not just word of mouth, but thanks for the effort), I would
>greatly appreciate it.  Also, I would also appreciate any sources
>(books, articles, etc with statistics whatnot) that could be listed that
>you could give to me.  I already know about the washington.u FTP site
>and have gotten that info.

A recent issue of the journal, _Social Justice: A Journal of Crime, Conflict,
and World Order_, was dedicated to commentary and critiques of the War on
Drugs.  At least one of the articles is exactly what you want, IMHO.  This
issue isn't on the newstands any more, but you can order it for $10 plus 2
for s&h from Social Justice PO Box 40601, San Francisco, California 94140.
There are some really really good analyses of the WOD in this issue and I
recommend it for everyone.

>Thanks for your time.
>Ian -- Mass agreement is the true substance of reality.  (friend's account)
>

     --M@
From: thanatos@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:31:06 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

In article <1993Jan4.181252.21305@netcom.com> howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.130252.46058@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> lerner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>Our school recently decided that we will have a drug dog.  Supposedly,
>>it can smell just about anything, no matter how much you cover it up.
>>I seriously doubt this.  I have heard that coffee will hide the smell,
>>and I am wondering if this is true.  Also, what else will hide things
>>from the dog?
>>
>
>I seriously doubt it could smell anything in a good thermos in a
>refrigerator.
>
>-Howard
>
>
>-- 
>::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>Howard Berkey                       			   howard@netcom.com
>Did you hear about the dyslexic devil worshipper?
>He sold his soul to Santa.				-Herb Caen
>... .. ...   ... .. ...   ... .. ...    ... .. ...   ... .. ...   ... .. ...


One idea that a friend of mind had was to take a squirtgun full of bongwater
to his high school and make the entire school smell enough like dope that
EVERYTHING could be a false positive, making dragging the dog through the
school a futile effort.

Another note, when someone I knew was arriving at school late, while class
was in session and they were taking the drug dog through the school, the dog
alerted on him because he had some vitamin C pills in his pocket! I had no
idea they trained dogs to sense things like vitamin fillers. (And this was
in middle-school, before he even knew about the wide world of illicit drugs,
so it wasn't dope smoke from the night before ;)

I wonder if it would be possible to leave something in a locker that would 
numb the dog's sense of smell for a while, or perhaps permanently.  Comments,
anyone?


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mbrownel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Mark Brownell)
Subject: Re: 48 hours...
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:01:37 GMT


In article <1993Jan7.211933.22487@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
wisner@aiag.enet.dec.com writes:
>

>This is part of a review I am developing. This version has
>most of my comments removed because I haven't had time to gather
>references and verify my statements. 

Thanks for the synopsis, Paul. I only caught the last 1/2 hour of the
show and I've wondered ever since why a number of people in this
newsgroup thought it was a fair assessment of the situation.

I thought it was propaganda. The prohibition arguments of the past
(chromosome damage, leaping out of windows etc.) were quietly replaced
by a whole new set of lies and scare tactics. The interviewers asked
typically leading, one-sided questions - so much for journalistic
integrity.  

I loved the ex-hippies who are now safely tucked away in their
middle-class, suburban existences clicking their tongues over the LSD
epidemic. Hypocrites! Hey, it was okay for me to fuck around when I was
young but I'm gonna make damn sure *my* daughter will never make the
same mistake! 

Typical yuppie bullshit.  

BTW, isn't it odd that Dan (What-is-the-Frequency) Rather neglected to
mention that he had taken LSD.

And isn't passing strange that one of Dr. Abraham's "patients" is now a
practicing psychologist (!!!???) despite having to deal with the
debilitating effects of LSD *every day of his life*!

48 hours takes yet another dive into the muck.

Mark B. :-P

"Habit blunts the edge of pleasure."
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter F. Couvares)
Subject: Re: Drug Policy Foundation
Organization: Amherst College
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:08:30 GMT

bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler) writes:

>How come they [a] don't seem to have an Internet address yet, 
>and [b] don't have any mailing lists set up yet?

[a] They do: 76546.215@compuserve.com (c/o: Kennington Wall, Public
    Information Director)

[b] Maybe because alt.drugs and talk.politics.drugs do a good enough
    job of disseminating information. If you think there should be a
    mailing list, start one. I'll join...

-Peter

-- 
pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter Couvares)

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
From: dart@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan)
Subject: Looking for info on abortifacents
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:29:19 GMT

	I need any possible information about publicly available abortifacents
(miscarriage-inducing substances).  Both chemical and herbal substances are
of extreme interest at this point.  Any information you can give would be
most helpful.  Feel free to reply via email.

	No jokes or flames, please.  This is a situation in which the
choice lies between the death of a fetus and the death of my wife.

	Thank You.
						Sean Cannon
--
Sometimes you can feel the fish
And then it slips away
Things aren't always what they seem
In North Hawaii
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: an4929@anon.penet.fi (gonzo)
Subject:      48 Hours with LSD
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:25:02 GMT

I was actually quite impressed with the program for the most part.
If I had  to score it, I would give it a 7.4.  And, the overall
contest score would be LSD 4, DEA 0.

Anyway, my biggest beef with the show was that kid who got arrested.
His story was that he started doing drugs, then went on tour with the
Dead, then AFTER that sold a sheet to someone and got arrested.  Of
course somehow, they tied this back in to the Dead.



Peace, love, and tomatoes,

Bill

"I believe in a long, prolonged derangement of the senses, followed
by a good long bath, starchy food, and plenty of rest.

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From: christ@cie.uoregon.edu (Christian G. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Lobeline...
Date: 6 Jan 1993 07:27:00 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu
Summary: What is this stuff and where can I get it?
Keywords: lobeline, tobacco
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

  If someone could share information or point me in the direction of
a site that contains information on lobeline, I would be very happy.
I've seen it as a content in a "smoker's tea" which is supposed to
help you kick the habbit.  I was wondering if someone could tell me
what form this drug/chemical takes and if it is possible to buy it, 
say at a healthfood store.
   Any help is greatly appreciated,
 
-christian
From: ebenami@igc.apc.org (Etan Ben-Ami)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Fuck nicotine
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:16:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1301300236:000:144
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ebenami    Jan 11 21:16:00 1993


Fuck nicotine, fuck, fuck

Fuck, nicotine, fuck, fuck

Fuck nicotine, I'm fucked, I'm fucked.

3 days

And this shit is legal?

-- Etan Ben-Ami
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette)
Subject: Re: Kid on 48 Hours
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:10:04 GMT

In <malcolm.726575946@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:

>dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette) writes:
>>>About that kid on 48 Hours who unfortunately mailed the LSD to his *friend*,
>>>I'm assuming that the guy was out-of-state. So that being the case, would his 
>>>punishment be necessarily different had he mailed it to somebody that lived
>>>in the same state? I know that once you cross state lines, the Feds start
>>>to get in the action.

>>Selling LSD is a Class A FELONY. I don't think it makes any differnce
>>whether you cross state lines or not.

>Not sure if it's the same kid, but I think so - a few months back there
>was an article about a "kid" that was busted here that supposedly had
>met some guy at a dead show or two, and the guy asked him over a couple
>of different occasions if he knew where the kid could get any doses...
>the article I read in the SF Chronicle about that case was suggesting
>that the kid was set up, entrapped, badgered over a year or so to help
>this guy get some "doses" and when he finally did he found out later it
>was a DEA setup. He did it because somebody offered him piles of cash
>and bugged him until he was willing to help... I really can't say it's
>the same case, but I think it is because it sounded so similar. 

> - Malcolm  
I doubt the kid was entrapped. I suspect he was flipped. He seemed to have a
good lawyer (oxymoron alert). I'll bet what happened is that he sold to an
aquaintance who got busted *then* became a dea informant. The two main ways
people get busted are "the flip" ie someone gets busted and names you, or over
the
telephone (need one say more about the phone).
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