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From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma)
Subject: Re: World Travel
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:00:26 GMT


In a previous article, DEVBLGC@TCSTSO.BITNET (Louis Crispino) says:

>What is REC.TRAVEL and can it be accessed via BITNET or TELENET?

    rec.travel is one of many Usenet newsgroups.  The easiest way to read
it is if it is carried on the computer system you use.  There are other
ways to get to it for reading and posting, but they are not as convenient.
I assume you mean telnet for "TELENET" above?  Computers connected to both
the Internet and BITNET can carry Usenet news, as well as many other
computers.  All that must happen is that each group somehow get passed to
your computer.  How to subscribe to it will depend on your system and your
newsreader.


--
All my alt.tasteless posts crossposted to alt.romance.chat and misc.test
All my talk.bizarre posts crossposted to alt.good.news and misc.test
If you read it, I didn't write it; If I wrote it, I didn't mean it
	Barry Bouwsma,     ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU [Internet]
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:18:26 PST
From:         Richard Everman <reverman@KA.REG.UCI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EGYPT
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James

Has somebody done this for New Zealand?

Thanks

Richard
reverman@uci.edu

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In message <9212102333.AB21995@ka.reg.uci.edu> "Tourism Discussions.." writes:
>
> On Wed, 9 Dec 92 19:42:00 +0200 <TOMY_ACE@EGAUCACS> said:
> >Hi,
> >
> >... Any way , If anyone is
> >interested to get any information about EGYPT (which is where I come from),
> >I would be happy to give this information or answer any questions .
>
> Welcome aboard! A few years back I tried to enlist people to become
> area specialists and to prepare files for frequently asked questions (FAQ)
> or anticipated ones.  Perhaps you might want to do this for Egypt.
>
> Also, people have in the past submitted travelogues and general introductions
> to their countries without waiting for inquiries, and these have received
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From:         ginette <UGU00641@VM.UOGUELPH.CA>
Subject:      Re: Travel in Ecuador
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              11 Dec 92 22:01:28 GMT from <eliota@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>

I was in Ecuador last year. It is very inexpensive. If I must recommend
a cheap hotel it is Hotel Gran Casino in Quito. It is about 1$ a night
and they have good food (try Corvina frita!!!). There you will meat backpackers
that have been traveling for months. They will tell you great places to go.
You should try to get to Otavalo, Los Banos, Mitad del mundo...,climb a
mountain.... Quito is a wonderfull city especially the old part. Dress
warmly, it's cold at night. If you want any more detailed info mail me!


                       Have a Great Trip
                       Hasta Luego,
                                Ginette Mazerolle
                                Guelph, Canada
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 92 11:55:00 MDT
From:         LDENNING@DUCAIR.BITNET
Subject:      RE: X-mas holiday
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Okan - The length of time that the faculty is gone during the semester break
is entirely dependent on the particular faculty.  I am generally in my office
daily, whether classes are in session or not, except for the period that I
will be out of town.  As an example, Our Fall quarter ended, for me, on

November 23.  I did not come to the office on the 26 or 27 for Thanksgiving,
didn't come in on Dec. 7, and will not be in from Dec. 19 thru Dec. 28, and
will miss January 1.  Classes begin January 4.  One the other hand, one of the
other faculty here has not been in to his office but once since the quarter
ended and I don't expect to see him until the week of December 28.

As a graduate student, I would expect that you will be in the US and on
campus no later than about January 12 for classes starting January 19, so
that you can sign up for classes, buy books, and get settled in your housing
situation and discover the town.  At that time, you can stop by your new
department to introduce yourself to whoever is there and, at that time,
determine which faculty will be in the office and when.  If you have
a graduate appointment, I would presume that you would be in contact with
you major professor to determine what you duties will be and when they will
start.

As you can tell from the above, everything is variable.  Write to your
department or jsut show up and let things proceed as they will.

Good Luck.              Lloyd Dennington, University of Denver
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From:         nd26 <Nancy_R_DEUEL@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Wash.DC Inaugural events
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FYI: Schedule of some events in Washington, DC surrounding the inauguration of
Bill Clinton as US President. I imagine many events will be televised.
Courtesy Washington Post, subject to change.

SUN 17 JAN
Mall: "America's Reunion on the Mall" Outdoor festival with regional crafts,
music, food, etc.
Evening: Concert and fireworks at Lincoln Memorial

MON 18 JAN
Georgetown University: Diplomatic Reception
Capital Center: "The American Gala" free, but ticketed, entertainment.

TUE 19 JAN:
Library of Congress: Governor's Luncheon
Kennedy Center: "Salute to Children" free, but ticketed, entertainment.
Capital Center: Presidential Gala.

WED 20 JAN:
Prayer service: Location TBA
Congressional reception.
White House: President and Mrs. Bush receive Mr. and Mrs. Clinton.
Capitol: Vice Presidential/Presidential oaths administered, Inaugural Address.
Congressional Luncheon.
Parade: from Capitol to White House
Evening: Inaugural Balls

THU 21 JAN:
White House: General public invited to visit the Clintons.






Nancy
nd26@umail.umd.edu




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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 92 08:57:00 EDT
From:         S650@HECMTL01.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Montreal and Boston
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Asgher (MOHD@PSY.GLASGOW.AC.UK) writes
>Hi,
>   I'm travelling to the States and Canada for 3 weeks in 4 days time.
>   After family commitments in Ny and Toronto, I plan to spend 10
>   days in Montreal and Boston. The info. I need is firstly how
>   to spend New Years Eve in Montreal, best area to be in, nightlife
>   etc.Also an area where I can find reasonably priced hotels.
        I would try to spend New Years Eve in Domntown Montreal (on
Crescent, de la Montagne, Peel streets between Ste-Catherine and
Sherbrooke ave.) where you can feel both the french and english culture
of Montreal with a lot of activity (nightlife). During the day it is
worth while visiting old Montreal (Vieux port). If you like walking,
go up Mont-Royal at the north end of Peel street. Going east you could
walk St-Denis street (universite du Quebec and frech atmosphere). You
could also take the metro and visit the olympic statium and Ste-Helene
and Notre-Dame islands. I think you should find reasonably priced hotels
on Sherbrooke street east of Mcgill college.
        If you have time it could be interesting to spend a day or two
in Quebec City (2 and half hours drive from Montreal).
        I suppose you are aware that Montreal (and even more so Quebec)
is cold and humid at this time of year. The temperature is usualy below
0 C and can drop as low as -25 Celsius.
>   As for Boston, I also need to find reasonibly priced accomodation,
>   so if someone out there can point me in the right direction I'll
>   be much obliged.Where are the centres, alternative centres etc.
        I have never been in Boston in Winter but it is a beautyful
city. For a first visit I would walk the 'Freedom Trail' (not sure of the
name) and cycle (if possible) along the Charles river (Harvard, MIT ...).
>   Incidentally is somebody from Montreal called a Montrealite.
        We are Montrealers. (Montrealais in french).
>
>
>                        Thanks
>                              Asgher(Glasgow,Scotland)
        I will try to find the name of reasonably priced hotels and
send them to you later. Do not hesitate to write back if you have any
questions. If you stay in New York before coming to Montreal try to
get the book "The best of Montreal & Quebec City... A Guide to the
Places and Pleasures of French Canada" by Martin Kevan (Crown Publishers,
inc).

        Bienvenue a Montreal!

        Benoit Beaudoin          Internet: S650@HEC.CA
                                 Bitnet  : S650@HECMTL01
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From:         tmne@ARCHSCI.ARCH.SU.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: World Travel
Comments: To: "Tourism Discussions.."
              <TRAVEL-L%TREARN.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
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              13 Dec 92 11:38:26 -0600.
              <9212150750.AA18999@archsci.arch.su.EDU.AU>

> PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ON EXTENDED TRAVEL

> MY WIFE AND I WERE PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEERS IN NEPAL FOR 2 YEARS AND PLANNED
> EXTENDED TRAVEL AFTER THE SERVICE WAS COMPLETED.  WE HAD COMMITMENTS AT HOME
> SO WE RETURNED TO THE US FIRST, PRIOR TO TRAVEL.  WE ENDED UP SPENDING THE SU
MM
> ER AT HOME AND WERE LEFT WITH 3.5 MONTHS BEFORE MY WIFE'S JOB LEAVE EXPIRED.
WE
> SCALED BACK TRAVEL PLANS TO ASIA AND THE PACIFIC.  WE VISITED THE FOLLOWING
> COUNTRIES: THAILAND - 3 WEEKS
>               INDIA - 2 WEEKS
>           INDONESIA - 2 WEEKS
>           AUSTRALIA - 4 WEEKS
>        NEW ZEALAND  - 4 WEEKS

stuff deleted...

>   3. AUSTRALIA IS A BIG COUNTRY.  A MONTH IS VERY LITTLE TIME THERE.  WE CAME
>      INTO PERTH AND LEFT FROM BRISBANE.  RENTING A CAR FOR TWO OF US WAS USUA
LL
>      CHEAPER THAN BUS TOURS AND A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE.  COUNTRY PUBS OFFER LOW
>      COST ROOMS....$20 US AND WARM HOSPITALITY.  A COOLER IS CALLED A "CHILLY
>      BIN", GREAT FOR SAVING A FEW BUCKS ON NOON MEALS.

I think you will have more luck in Australia asking for an Esky rather
than a Chilly Bin (never heard of the expression - it sounds
suspiciously like a New Zealand one to me :-) !!!

Thanks for all the interesting ideas. It sounds like you had a wonderful
trip. Did you stop around Byron Bay on your way to Brisbane? I am going
there for ten days next week and am intersted in things to do there.


 -- Tmne
_______________________________________________________________________

Tmne Sperling                      Voice: +61-2-692 4031
Key Centre of Design Quality       Fax:   +61-2-692 3031
University of Sydney               Internet: tmne@archsci.arch.su.oz.au
NSW 2006 Australia                 Time: GMT + 10 hours
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:42:22 PST
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From:         "Marcus L. Endicott" <mendicott@IGC.APC.ORG>
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/* Written  3:41 pm  Dec 15, 1992 by mendicott@igc.apc.org in igc:rec.travel */
/* ---------- "Travel Agents Computer Society" ---------- */
Do you know anything about the "Travel Agents Computer Society," or
anything similar?  I have an old reference refering to a Donna Burns
as the "head."  Please email ME >mendicott@igc.apc.org< if you have
any information or contacts about this.

Thanx,
- Marcus Endicott
From: MKBECK01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (Mary K. Becker)
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Subject: Memphis
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:29:16 GMT
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Acquisitions Assistant-Kornhauser Library
Phone: 588-5763
Well, I haven't been there YET, but from what I've been told
and read, Rendevous (sp) is the place to eat.  The people at
the Visitors Center, Convention Bureau - whatever, are really
nice and will send you info in a hurry.  Their number is : (901) 575-3500.
Sorry, no 800 number is available that *I* could find.
B.B. King's seems to be the place to go on Beale Street.  I'll let
you know more after Christmas about *personal* experience.
Speak up, Mary Edith!  :)
Mary K.
MKBECK01@ULKYVM : BITNET
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 92 08:52:16 +0200
From:         Avner Haran <CFAVNER@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject:      Re: area specialist listing
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              15 Dec 92 12:10:00 EST from <Nancy_R_DEUEL@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>

Come on guys, where are all the area specialists of this list who always
send detailed replies ? No other volunteers for this listing ?

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Chemical Physics Dept.          Internet: CFAVNER@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL
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From:         LDENNING@DUCAIR.BITNET
Subject:      RE: San Diego
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There is a restaurant in La Jolla called, I think, George's at the Cove.  It
is WONDERFUL!!!

Take a walk through Old San Diego.  Take a walk on Black's Beach and if you
are into that sort of thing, join them.  The drive north from La Jolla past
Scripps in quite scenic.

Why go to TJ?  Everything that I have heard indicates that it is worthless.
Now, if you continue south into Baja.....
                        Lloyd
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From:         Okan KOCAK <EMY03@TRFIRAT.BITNET>
Subject:      thanx
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  I thank you all who helped me in finding out the
  Christmas Holiday.I appreciate that.
  Merry Christmas and happy new  year to all of you.

  Okan KOCAK
  EMY03@TRFIRAT
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:54:00 EDT
From:         S650@HECMTL01.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Boston and Montreal
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Asgher (MOHD@PSY.GLASGOW.AC.UK) writes
>Hi,
>   I'm travelling to the States and Canada for 3 weeks in 4 days time.
>   After family commitments in Ny and Toronto, I plan to spend 10
>   days in Montreal and Boston. The info. I need is firstly how
>   to spend New Years Eve in Montreal, best area to be in, nightlife
>   etc.Also an area where I can find reasonably priced hotels.
        I would try to spend New Years Eve in domn-town Montreal (on
Crescent, de la Montagne, Peel streets between Ste-Catherine and
Sherbrooke ave.) where you can feel both the french and english culture
of Montreal with a lot of activity (nightlife). During the day it is
worth while to visit old Montreal (Vieux port). If you like walking,
go up Mont-Royal at the noth end of Peel street. Going east you could
walk St-Denis street (university and frech atmosphere). You could also
take the metro and visit the olympic statium and Ste-Helene and Note-Dame
islands. I think you should find reasonably priced hotels on Sherbrooke
street east of Mcgill college.
        If you have time it could be interesting to spend a day or two
in Quebec City (2 and half hours drive from Montreal).
        I suppose you are aware that Montreal (and even more so Quebec)
is cold and humid at this time of year. The temperature is usualy below
0 C and can drop as low as -25 Celsius.
>   As for Boston, I also need to find reasonibly priced accomodation,
>   so if someone out there can point me in the right direction I'll
>   be much obliged.Where are the centres, alternative centres etc.
        I have never been in Boston in Winter but it is a beautyfull
city. For a first visit I would walk the 'Freedom Trail' (not sure of the
name) and cycle (if possible) along the Charles river (Harvard, MIT ...).
>   Incidentally is somebody from Montreal called a Montrealite.
        We are Montrealers. (Montrealais in french).
>
>
>                        Thanks
>                              Asgher(Glasgow,Scotland)
        I will try to find the name of reasonably priced hotels and
send them to you later. Do not hesitate to write back if you habe any
questions.

        Bienvenue a Montreal!

        Benoit Beaudoin          Internet: S650@HEC.CA
                                 Bitnet  : S650@HECMTL01
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From:         nd26 <Nancy_R_DEUEL@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Area specialists sought
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              <TRAVEL-L%TREARN.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu>
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AREA SPECIALISTS REQUESTED

I would be glad to compile a list of current Travel-l netters that are
willing to serve as "area specialists". I enjoy reading the travelogues,
also, for vicarious adventure while I am chained to my computer for the
holidays. (On the other hand, I DON'T like reading all the postings of
lodging information, etc. that is readily available in guidebooks and from
any travel agent!)

Directions:

Please send me DIRECTLY (please don't clutter the net!!!) a SHORT file with
your name, email address, and list of cities and countries that you have
some familiarity with. I will circulate the list in a couple of weeks. Thanks
for helping out!

Send it to ME: nd26@umail.umd.edu
Nancy Deuel
University of Maryland
(Your friendly area specialist for Washington, DC).




>Has somebody done this for New Zealand?

>> Welcome aboard! A few years back I tried to enlist people to become
>> area specialists and to prepare files for frequently asked questions (FAQ)
>> or anticipated ones.  Perhaps you might want to do this for Egypt.
>> Also, people have in the past submitted travelogues and general
introductions
>> to their countries without waiting for inquiries, and these have received





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From:         "David E. Miles" <DEMILE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      London after Christmas - any ideas?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Database Analyst (305 HSC-B)
Phone: (502) 588-8781

Dear Travel-lers,

My wife and I will spend 10 days in London after Christmas.  We
need advice on things to do there from 28 Dec through 05 Jan.

It will be our third trip there - but the first one in the dead of
winter.  We've done most of the standard tourist things (St Paul's,
the Tower, Westminster Abby, Harrods) but maybe someone can sugggest
something we would never get from guide books.

We'll be staying at the Regent Marriott on King Henry Road and using
the Swiss Cottage tube stop.  I know that's quite a distance from
the action but we didn't have a choice.  Are there any good tea
rooms, pubs, resturants around there?  Any places of interest
nearby - besides the zoo?

We think we'll welcome in the New Year in Trafalger Sguare.  Is that
asking for trouble or will it be a great experience?  (We are 50-
something.)

Will everything be closed on New Years Day and Sunday?  Even
Highgate Cemetary and the zoo?

Will the Philharmonic be performing?  Will there be any special
choral and/or organ "concerts" at any of the cathedrals?
Should we try to get tickets to "Phantom"?  What else?  Should we
risk a late night visit to a "disco" in Soho?

I'd like to visit the Red Dragon College.  Does anyone on the list
know where it is or if it's open to the public?

I plan to work on my genealogy a little.  I've been to the Royal
Genealogical Society.  Where else should I go?  The British Museum
Reading Room?  The Public Records Office?

Also I'd like to see Barnes.  Will I need to rent a car to get
there and see everything or can we take a train and see the town
sufficiently by foot?

Thanks in advance for any replies - personal or to the list.

David

David E. Miles             | Bitnet:   demile01@ulkuvm
University of Louisville   | Internet: demile01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
Louisville, Kentucky 40292 | Phone:    (502) 588-8781
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From: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu (Dennis P. Harris)
Subject: Re:      Teaching in: Alaska or Hawaii
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:58:00 GMT

In article <TRAVEL-L%92121614515897@TREARN>,         "Donna Foley (813) 974-4034 S/C 574-4034" <DBEABAK@CFRVM.BITNET> writes...
> 
>If you are only interesting in teaching in Alaska or Hawaii try checking
>with private schools they do not always require their teachers to be
>certified according to the state rules.  Another option but you may not
>have a choice of assignments is the Bureau of Indian Affairs.  My cousin
>worked for BIA for many years and did not have certification upon
>graduation from college.  She had assignments in Arizona, Mississippi, and
>Alaska.  The BIA may have changed its rules since my cousin worked for
>them.
> 
>Donna Foley   dbeabak@cfrvm
>Tampa, Florida

alaska law requires certified teachers even in private schools.  the only
exception is home schooling of your own children.  the BIA no longer operates
any schools in alaska.  teaching jobs are hard to find here --- my sister had
her certificate for a year and a half before finding a job, and she had lots of
contacts all over the state.  on the average, districts last year had about 25
applicants for every opening.  unemployment is high here --- don't move here
without a job offer that has been verified by the state dept. of labor.  every
year we have people show up that have been conned into coming here for jobs
that don't exist (after paying someone a fee, of course...)


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