HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: marc@yogi.austin.ibm.com (Marc J. Stephenson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Tired of UT fans?
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:35:33 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <1992Sep1.003809.12848@rhrk.uni-kl.de> CRJ14530@acuvax.acu.edu (Judd Christopher R.) writes:
>I was just curious how many other people out there are as tired of the UT
>attitude that is out there this year?
>
>Christopher Judd
>(CRJ14530@ACUVax.ACU.edu)
>

Perhaps you could elaborate on what you consider this "attitude" to be?  

If you're talking about Dustin, Dustin is a woofer, plain and simple.  Woofers
give me pains, but they're certainly not limited to any particular school.
I particularly dislike informative postings approximating "FOO ROOOOLZ!!!".
Not interesting.

Anyway, your post is also uninformative.  It is a bland, non-specific
generalization.  What are you talking about?  Can you give any examples?

Or, perhaps, are you just trying to start another useless, endless, whiny
discussion about the merits and bad points of UT (with respect to fans,
athletic programs, rivals, engineering programs, class, attitude towards
A&M, etc.)?  Naaahhh.  Couldn't be. :-)

Sheesh.
-- 
Marc Stephenson		    IBM AWD (Advanced Workstations Division - Austin,TX)
DISCLAIMER: The content of this posting is independent of official IBM position.
INTERNET->marc@perfmap.austin.ibm.com    VNET: MARC at AUSVMQ  IBM T/L: 678-3189
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From: joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu (JAMES P O)
Subject: Re: LSU vs. The Hurricane
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution:  usa
Date: 27 AUG 92 12:58:50    

In article <1992Aug27.163428.23032@ods.com>, scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes...
> 
>Anyway, I heard a real short news blurb on the radio yesterday that
>said LSU's football stadium received "some" damage from Andrew.
>How bad is it? 

	What a shame if this stadium got damaged. Of all the college sta
diums that I have visited, Tiger staduim was built FOR HOMETEAM advantage
and was a great looking place too. When we were there for that rain game
only about 80 to 85% of the staduim was full. But just the way it was 
constructed (real steep) it was superloud. Even louder than inside the 
Superdome.

James O'Connor                    DUKE BLUE DEVILS
Mech Engineering                         VS
FAMU/FSU College of Engineering  >>>----NOLES---->
JOCONNOR@EVAX10.ENG.FSU.EDU        SEPT 5    7:00
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From: trice@bnr.ca (Tony Rice P885)
Subject: Re: Va Tech and UVa predictions
Keywords: beat the `hoos
Reply-To: trice@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Inc. Research Triangle Park, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 15:25:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.134452.8639@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, dew6c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege) writes:
|> Then again, Virginia football is *always* a comedy of errors...  Ever since 1990
|> when Georgia Tech and Virginia had mythical claims at best to be #1.  Maybe with

And let's not forget Virginia's crushing 38-13 defeat by the Hokies in 1990.
This (plus the whooping the Boo-Hoos got from Georgia Tech) led to the
sugar bowl being renamed the "Saccharin Bowl"

-- 
==========================================================
                      Tony R. Rice                      
         Systems Development Environment Support         
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mrmidi@aol.com                  Research Triangle Park, NC
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From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: OU freshman QB quits?
Keywords: Oklahoma, OU, Davis
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:40:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.180415.394@Arco.COM> mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM (Mike Minihan) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.214145.15037@spdc.ti.com>, dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com
>(Bill Dostalik) writes:
>> 
>> Anyone out there in Sooner country know the scoop on Frosh QB Chad
>> Davis?
>> 
>> Someone told me that he quit OU, that he couldn't handle the
>> competition.
>> Is this true?  What gives?  I know he was in Norman working out all
>> summer,
>> spouting off how he was going to beat out Gundy.  I understand he
>> impressed
>> a lot of folks this summer, some favorably, some not so favorably.  
>> 
>> - Bill Dostalik         
>
>Yo Bill,
>
>  Yes, he did leave last Wednesday because he felt that he did not have
>a fair chance at QB (that's his side of the story). He did, however, show
>back up for Friday team meetings. From what I understand, they are dis-
>apointed with his performance and wanted to red-shirt him, and HE DID NOT
>LIKE THAT. He also has been a cocky freshman and some of the upper class-
>men didn't take to kindly to this and told him so.  Gibbs talked to him
>and his father and everything is suppose to be ironed out.
>
>Mike Minihan      mminihan@arco.com

There was an interesting article in Sunday's Dallas Morning News about Gibbs
which said that Davis did come back after Gibbs spoke with Chad and daddy, but
it also mentioned a rumor going around that one Barry Switzer talked him into
staying in Norman.  The article claims Barry attends 2-3 practices a week and
is still "involved" with the program, whatever that means.  Supposedly Gibbs
doesn't mind:  he appreciates Coach Switzer.  Interesting indeed.

The DMN article was surprisingly glowing, they are so anti-OU it's funny,
they've even tried to sabotage recruiting by blatantly putting old OU scandal
news on the front page right before national signing day.  Maybe it was just
Barry they hated.  A classic case of MNC-envy.

Only three days 'till kickoff!  Too early to woof?  Nah!

Woof: Go Sooners!   OU by 16 is my pick. 
(Anti-woof: I am concerned about the thiness in the lines, though.)


Bill Dostalik        dostalik@utdallas.edu
From: brook@l42bb.jsc.nasa.gov) (Mike Brookover)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: A&M BEATS BILL WALSH
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:08:39 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.

In article <1992Aug28.071407.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.151107.29917@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>,
lein@base.ctt.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322) writes:
>> 
>> and don't forget the bad call by the ref's giving A&M an interception on a 
>> play that had both pass interference and an interception after the
>> ball clearly bounced off the ground.  It certainly broke A&M's string   
>> of starting with poor field position in the 2nd half.
>> 
>> John L
>
>I didn't see the game, it wasn't carried in my area (grrr).  I did see a
>replay of the above-mentioned play on ESPN.  I realize that I saw the play
>out of context of the game, but I wonder:
>
>- If this play had been called correctly, would Stanford have won?
>
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:47:19 EDT
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Alabama Football
Distribution: na

I can relate, being a Bama fan in State College.  I get lots
of college football, but none that I'm really interested in.

Jim Thomas
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: IOWA FALLS 14-24, NCSU GETS RESPECT (FINALLY!)
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:54:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) wrote:
}
}Well, sure, and I'm glad about it, but wasn't Iowa the LOWEST ranked opponent
}an ACC team has faced in the Kickoff Classic?

Notre Dame '89 finished #6 and Penn State '91 finished #3.  Judging
from what I saw of Iowa Saturday night, they'll be hard-pressed to
finish that high.

Still, NC State went into last night's game far better prepared than
Virginia '89 or Georgia Tech '91.  Dick Sheridan's teams always seem
to start the season well, but they have had some terrible finishes
recently.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
"Distant cousins, there's a limited supply ...
                                           big-eyed beans from Venus!"
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: Bill Walsh can NOT beat the Aggies!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:02:27 GMT

In article <17kjdgINN3mk@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>Texas A&M 10
>Stanford 7
>
>Of course, only 25% of the A&M players get college degrees.

and the rest gets drafted in NFL, I suppose?

>William F. Tell

Njan
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: A&M BEATS BILL WALSH
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:10:07 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) wrote:
}
}On the other interception, the defensive back pushed off, and that
}wasn't called either.

There was positively no pushoff on the 2nd A&M interception -
you must be seeing things.  The Stanford receiver fell down, but
that was because the pass was so horribly underthrown and he couldn't
put it in reverse fast enough to get back.

}I am certainly not a Stanford fan, but I think they may have
}been robbed.

One bad call does not a "robbing" make, in general.  Stanford certainly
got a few breaks as well.  On their first drive, for instance, a very
questionable "late hit" was called after a Stenstrom run.  This is
of course a judgement call, but (1) so is pass interference and (2) 
I noted that at least twice in the remainder of the game that A&M players
were hit just as late without receiving the 15 yard bonus.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
"Distant cousins, there's a limited supply ...
                                           big-eyed beans from Venus!"
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From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: Bama in the polls
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:13:36 GMT

>: In case all you rscfers missed it, Bama is #1 in the new New York Times
>: preseason computer rankings!!! 
>: Computer's never lie! :-)
>
>However, computers and computer programs are only as smart as the person who
>programmed them/it.   <insert many smilies here :-)  >
>
ouch!  the first thing that comes to mind is a really hick dude with no 
teeth and a shotgun saying, "bend over that log boy."  Is that what the
programmer looked like?

cmuck

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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: INFO ON TEXAS PRACTICES
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:34:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.201317.13710@leland.Stanford.EDU> paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.170231.4000@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
> >I believe Stanfraud is preseason #3 behind Washington and UCLA, but ahead of
> >Kal and the Condoms.
> 
> 
> Stanford has been ranked number 2 in the Pac10 by just about everybody.

                                           Cliffie        Bob
Don Heinrich  Sporting News  Street&Smith  Slauterbeck    Dieckmann
------------  -------------  ------------  ------------   ----------
Washington     Washington     Washington   Washington     Pap 10?
Stanford       UCLA           UCLA         all the rest   Do they have
California     Stanford       Stanford     Wash State     a contest??


-- 
"Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@mtfme.att.com)
How ya' gonna learn anything if you  |  GO: Mets (& dear old Rutgers)
always got your head in a book?"     |  I probably should've included smileys.
                -- Foghorn Leghorn   |  **usual disclaimer**
From: 11telliott@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Zarathustra)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Kick Off Classic
Date: 30 Aug 92 06:21:55 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

In article <0095FD85.0E363900@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU>, currin@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU writes:
> Wolf Wolf :-)
> RC
Of course, this is good news to 'Cane fans... Iowa must be deflated to see
their first game end up in a loss... And with that attitude, the 'Canes should
have a better time handling Iowa. Not to mean disrespect to North Carolina
State, but Miami is much better than quality football, and Iowa will be stunned
to see it next week. Kudos to NCSU... ;)
"Canes forever, Andrew never!
-- 

Todd Elliott
11TELLIOTT@GALLUJ (Bitnet)
11TELLIO@GALLUX.GALLAUDET.EDU (Internet)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Wed, 02 Sep 92 19:13:11 CST
From:         Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: R.S.F.C Football Poll
Newsgroups:   rec.sport.football.college

>
>In article <Btx2uF.3GF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder
>Larsen) says:
>
>Isn't anyone doing a poll this year?  I saw a posting a week
>and a half ago, but nothing since.

I took this week off since we only had two games to think about.
I'll be taking entries again after this Saturday's game.  I will
be going to Lincoln for the Nebraska - Utah game this weekend, I
wonder why Chris Stassen did add that game to the cfpool - NOT.

Bapi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Trojan News
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:38:04 GMT

valdis@sal-sun21.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs) writes:
> While TRAVELER and his rider were poised and ready to take the lap from
> the entrance of the Coliseum tunnel,the Cal rooting section (sitting
> near the tunnel) showed their true colors. Instead of booing,hissing or
> making cat calls, that TRAVELER,his rider and SC fans are accustomed of
> seeing, Cal fans began throwing hard objects that startled the horse
> which began bucking,kicking,threw the rider off the horse onto the track...
> 
> Yes Cal fans, a true act of class...

     Not really.  They should have decapitated
TRAVELER and put his bloody head at the foot of
your bed late at night so you could wake up the
next morning screaming.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
From: rmrohre@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Randy M. Rohrer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Paying athletes
Keywords: PSU, Paterno
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:13:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond


	Several years ago, Joe Paterno (PSU) was advocating
that athletes be paid pocket-change living expenses 
(i.e. < $100 per month ). I'm not sure if he is still
in favor of this but it never "flew" with the NCAA.

Randy
PSU '83

-- 
Randy Rohrer		   	&&   The George Washington University
rmrohre@afterlife.ncsc.mil           Depratment of EE&CS
                          	     rohrer@seas.gwu.edu
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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Erickson,Spurrier,Bowden
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 28 Aug 1992 17:01 EST  

>In article <1992Aug27.165523.8123@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu writes...
>> 
>>	There was a program back on Tuesday night that featured the great 
>>coaches of the "Big 3" here in Florida. And one interesting thing they talked 
>>about was paying the players. (BTW everyones favorite college football 
>>commentator was hosting this show: Ol' Beano). Bobby was up first and said
>>that school ought to pay thier players for these reasons:
>>   -All of thier tuition, books, housing is paid for by scholarships
>>   -To keep juniors from entering the NFL draft

Maybe they could try offering an education to keep juniors from entering 
the NFL draft.  Just a thought.

>>   -Big schools like UM, UF, and FSU have the funds
>>   -The kids need misc money to do stuff on weekends, they get bored being
>>    stuck at a dorm. 100 bucks a month should be enough "petty cash"

I was bored being stuck at a dorm on weekends.  I ended up doing (GASP!) 
homework.

>>Erickson and Spurrier both agree to paying the players. They added that 
>>it should cut a big portion of NCAA rules that affect high profile, high
>>profit schools. GET RID OF THE RED TAPE!!

Athletes who don't want to be students should be sent straight to the WLAF. 
And perhaps coaches who feel this way should too.  I've just lost a lot of 
respect for Spurrier (as for Erickson and Bowden, well, I'm not surprised).

R Dendy
From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: INFO ON TEXAS PRACTICES
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:48:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


    I'm wondering if anyone has any information on how the practices are going
at UT?  Specifically, who has the inside track on the QB job, and how our WR's
are adapting to the new 'AIR BEVO' offense?

                                Thanks in advance,

                                crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu


                   GO STANFORD!!!  BEAT THE HELL OUTTA a&m!!!
From: acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: USC Trojan News
Summary: USC
Keywords: USC, Trojans
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:58:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <la7mcgINNe84@aludra.usc.edu>, bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) writes...
>Brian A. Kowal
>_____________________________________________________________
>At USC we are not arrogent... 

No, you're arrogant.

R Dendy
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:46:31 EDT
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: 91 BlockBuster (Was Re: Bama in the polls)
Distribution: na
 <1992Aug26.125257.3984@infonode.ingr.com>
 <1992Aug26.145534.28519@ncar.ucar.edu>

In article <1992Aug26.145534.28519@ncar.ucar.edu>, ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu
(Ethan Alpert) says:
>
>In article <1992Aug26.125257.3984@infonode.ingr.com>
>harbinjm@infonode.ingr.com
>(Mitch Harbin) writes:
>
>>
>>To add to your smiley faces, BAMA kicked the Buffs butts in the Blockbuster
>>bowl and it wasn't as close as the score indicated.  We kept helping you
>>boys to keep you in the game to keep it interesting and help CBS's ratings.
>>
>>       ROLL TIDE
>
>Maybe you turned the game of or were watching another game. The final score
>of the BlockBuster Bowl was Albama 30 Colorado 25. I wonder how a 5 point game
>can be called a butt kicking considering that Colorado's defense held BAMA to
>22 inches per play in the first half. I also remember BAMA having to rely on
>a lot of special teams points. The only catagory BAMA out matched the BUFFS
>was offense in a bowl game.

Really?  Bama held the Buffs to -11 yards rushing.  That's right, MINUS 11.

BTW, Bama got one touch down from special teams, Palmer's punt return.  On
the other hand, Jay Barker threw three TD passes.
 Well, enough with last year, let's get on with this year.

 ROLL TIDE!!


Jim Thomas
Penn State

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From: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische)
Subject: Re: ATM Graduation Rates
Keywords: n
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:05:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.212306.11254@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:
>How about putting the qualifier in here...  That rate shows the number
>of players that graduate in 4 years from A&M, not the number of players
>that graduate period.  I am sorry to have to inform you that A&M is not
>a private school that just hands its diplomas out.  Any student that 
>graduates in 4 years or less currently at A&M is doing well, considering
>some of the majors are in the excess of 140 hours to graduate.
>
Surely you jest.
You need to complete 180 quarter units to graduate from Stanford University.
Some of the liberal arts majors require only 45 units in the major. Most of the technical majors require 90-110 units in major, that coming from classes which are all 3-4 units.
I don't know where you received your information, but Stanford does not in any form just "hand its diplomas out."  I do, however agree that the stats are misleading since they are for four years rather than five, and the fact that A&M is a large state school makes a difference (not becasue it's harder to get your degree -- pshaw) because it is more difficult to get into required classes due to a huge student population.
So, to solve this debate, does anyone have the comparative stats for overall graduation rates of the football players?

Jason Gische
-waiting earnestly for my scholarship offer to IGN
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: USA Today/CNN Top 25 8/30
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:15:28 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt) wrote:
} 
}The coaches poll has produced some ridiculous results the last couple of
}years.  I can't believe this poll will be used as the official ranking to
}decide things like the Big East champion and who goes to which bowl.

I don't know about the Big East champion, but the things I've read
about the bowl alliance lead me to believe that the AP poll is
used there.  The poll also has pretty minimal effects on "who
goes where" in the alliance.  In the case of #1 vs. #2 the poll
more or less mandates the matchup, but in all other instances the
only effect of ranking is the order in which the bowls "draft" teams.
The bowl with the highest ranked team will draft first, but is under
no obligation to take the highest ranked opponent, etc.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
"Distant cousins, there's a limited supply ...
                                           big-eyed beans from Venus!"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: 91 BlockBuster (Was Re: Bama in the polls)
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:20:14 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: na
Organization: Murasami Labs

K. S. Manu blithers:
 
> Last year was last year... anyway, we didn't lose to ALL in-state div 1A
> opponents like FSU did last year...

Gee, I didn't realize that CSU was a powerhouse in the mold of UFlorida or
a UMiami.

BTW: yer a goober, Njan.

James - does this guy know who I really woof for?
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From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Subject: Re: Where the pro-ACC stand ends
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad 
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:06:50 GMT

And I will add that even when FSU pulled that... that... play, to beat us
a couple or three years ago, some 'Noles that were staying with us actually
were very gracious as we were to them.  We let them stay, after all...
Of course, they were old friends...
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
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