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From:         Frank Dane <FDANE@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Normal probability plots
              16 Nov 1992 09:12:49 GMT from <RCONROY@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>

Conroy wrote about using the correlation between one's data and the normal
distriution to check assumptions, and indicated an r might not be very good
for deviations at the tails.  It seems to me that a chi square test of
fit would be better, at least in those instances where one had a relatively
small number of possible scores; e.g. 20 or fewer.  I also seem to recall
reading about vrious chi square tests of fit for the normal, but can't
remember much, pro or con, about them.

Dr. Francis C. Dane, Associate Professor and Chair
Department of Psychology, Mercer University
Macon, GA  31207-0001  USA
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From:         "john.derrick.shillaw" <jds@SAKURA.CC.TSUKUBA.AC.JP>
Subject:      Re: LISREL 386 EXTENDER Installation

Steve, I can't help you with Lisrel, but I've been using a copule of other
Scientific Software programs (Tesfact and Bimain) using the DOS extender and
I have the same problems.  I think I've traced the problem to the Cyrix
math coprocessor which is not, according to some hardware gurus I consulted,
fully compatible with the Intel specifications around which the software was
almost certainly designed.  The Cyrix runs faster, but makes calls on the
CPU which some systems (including IBM machines) can't handle.  Windows will
probably compound the problem further because it accesses the bus in a
different way again.  Try turning off the coprocessor if you can and see if
this helps to eliminate this option - it did for me - but, of course, the
program becomes usless as a tool because it runs too slow.  Also you
could try running on a 486 with the Intel chip and see if this works.

Hope I'm wrong.

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From: jonathan@psych.psy.uq.oz.au (Jonathan Dwyer)
Subject: 5 Books about Cluster Analysis
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:42:57 GMT

5 Books about Cluster:

AUTHR: Anderberg, Michael R.
TITLE: Cluster analysis for applications / Michael R. Anderberg. --
PUBLR: New York : Academic Press, 1973. --
DESCR: 359p. : ill. ; 24cm. --
SERIE:  (Probability and mathematical statistics ; 19)
NOTES: Originally presented as the author's thesis, University of Texas at
          Austin, 1971
NOTES: Includes bibliography
ISBN#: 0-12-057650-3
SUBJT: Cluster analysis


AUTHR: Everitt, B. S. (Brian S.)
TITLE: Cluster analysis / Brian Everitt. --
EDITN: 2d ed.. --
PUBLR: London : published on behalf of the Social Science Research Council
          by Heinemann Educational Books ; New York : Halsted Press, 1980.
          --
DESCR: 136 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. --
SERIE:  (Reviews of current research ; 11)
NOTES: Includes index
NOTES: Bibliography: p. 119-132
ISBN#: 0-470-26991-X
SUBJT: Cluster analysis
SERIE: Reviews of current research (Social Science Research Council (Great
          Britain)) ; no. 11


AUTHR: Sneath, Peter H. A.
TITLE: Numerical taxonomy : the principles and practice of numerical
          classification / [by] Peter H. A. Sneath [and] Robert R. Sokal.
          --
PUBLR: San Francisco : W. H. Freeman, [1973]. --
DESCR: xv, 573 p. : illus. ; 26 cm. --
SERIE:  (A Series of books in biology)
NOTES: Bibliography: p. [488]-547
ISBN#: 0-7167-0697-0
SUBJT: Numerical taxonomy
AAUTH: Sokal, Robert R.


AUTHR: Hartigan, John A.
TITLE: Clustering algorithms / [by] John A. Hartigan. --
PUBLR: New York : Wiley, [1975]. --
DESCR: xiii, 351 p. : illus. ; 26 cm. --
SERIE:  (Wiley series in probability and mathematical statistics)
SERIE:  (A Wiley publication in applied statistics)
NOTES: Includes bibliographical references
ISBN#: 0-471-35645-X
SUBJT: Cluster analysis
SUBJT: Cluster analysis -- Data processing


AUTHR: Spath, Helmuth
TITLE: Cluster analysis algorithms for data reduction and classification
          of objects / Helmuth Spath ; translated by Ursula Bull. --
PUBLR: Chichester, Eng. : E. Horwood ; New York : Halsted Press, 1980. --

DESCR: 226 p. : ill. ; 24 cm. --
SERIE:  (Computers and their applications)
NOTES: Translation of Cluster-Analyse-Algorithmen zur Objektklassifizierung
          und Datenreduktion
NOTES: Includes index
NOTES: Bibliography: p. [215]-221
SUBJT: Cluster analysis -- Data processing
SUBJT: FORTRAN (Computer program language)


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From:         Bob Sullivan <RSULLIVA@SNYESCVA.BITNET>
Subject:      STAT PC TUTOR

Will:  If you do find something, can you please let me know?

Thanks
rsulliva@snyescva
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From:         "D. Glen McPherson" <mcphers@HILBERT.MATHS.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Reference books for statistical consultants

What is a useful basic set of reference books that should be available on the
bookshelf of a consultant statistician who provides a consulting service across
a broad spectrum of disciplines? If members of STAT-L are prepared to offer
suggestions in the form of their favourite/ most used reference books, I would
be happy to prepare an edited list of the suggestions for distribution on
STAT-L.

The suggestions can be sent to me privately. My e-mail address is

    mcphers@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au

To be useful and practical, I think the list should be restricted to those
which are currently in print and are capable of being ordered
through our local booksellers. It is important that complete details are
given so that there is no confusion when a person seeks to order a book.

If a book has a particular relevance in one or more disciplines, it would be
helpful if that fact was noted.

I look forward to the suggestions.
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From: Meredith_Warshaw@FRANKSTON.COM
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Subject: Re: Normal probability plots
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:16:00 GMT
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Ralph D'Agostino, chair of the stats department at Boston University,
has written a book on testing distributions (no, I don't know the reference
off-hand, and it's an expensive book).  At a short course I attended, he
stated quite emphatically that the Kolmogorov-Smirnov test was not good
for the purpose of testing for normality.  Not having my notes handy,
however,
I can't provide his recommendation for alternative tests.
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From:         Janez Stare <janez.stare@UNI-LJ.SI>
Subject:      RE: intro stat book with sas

Primer of Applied Regression and Analysis of Variance
by Stanton A. Glantz and Bryan K. Slinker (McGraw Hill, 777 pages) has a lot
of examples and solved problems using SAS, BMDP, SPSS and Minitab.
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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1992 09:50:37 EST
From:         "D. Glen McPherson" <mcphers@HILBERT.MATHS.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re essential book list

Thanks to all who have responded so enthusiastically to the development of an
'essential book list' for statistical consultants. I now have the details of
Cleveland's book - from at least 20 sources - so no more information on this
book please.
Based on the new flow of input which has followed the release of the initial
list, I will add, modify and delete according to the suggestions. Since there
has been so much additional information provided, I will aim to output the
next revision in about one week.

Two additional categories have been noted - Bayesian methods and Non-parametric
methods. If anyone would like to make contributions in these areas, I will
include the recommendations.

Thanks,  Glen.
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From:         Haiyi Xie <SOCHX@FREUD.SBS.UTAH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: intro stat book with sas

   can anyone recommend a good introductory stat book (through regression)
   that is packed with SAS examples?

   dave huth


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Hi
Dave

"Applied Regresion Analysis for Business and Economics" by Terry E. Dielman
(PWS-KENT, 1991) utilizes SAS and MINTAB examples throught the book.

Haiyi
From: maj@waikato.ac.nz
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Subject: Re: Rule of thumb
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:06:29 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <D921117.T082459.G1287.M01.C01@nih3plus>, McClelland_R%PSB%BLS@NIH3PLUS.BITNET writes:
> |Date: 11-17-92  8:20am
> |From: McClelland_R:PSB:BLS
> |  To: $STAT-L@MCGILL1:BITNET:NIH
> |Subj: Re: Rule of thumb
> |In-Reply-To: Message from $STAT-L@MCGILL1:BITNET of 11-16-92
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>PS from/to Russ Lenth:
> 
>>> PS - I'm told that the term "rule of thumb" has to do with the size
> of
>>> stick a husband may use to beat his wife (presumably in places like
>>> Iowa where the ERA was just defeated).  I suggest we use more
> tasteful
>>> terminology.
>>>
>>Interesting point, which I would rather not have learned. Is a phrase
>>in poor taste if (almost) no one using it knows where it came from?
> 
> Let's try to unwind a bit. It is just a saying.
> 
> Rob McClelland

This thing has been bandied around for a while on alt.usage.english.
No-one has come up with any hard evidence for the supposed
etymology [width of stick used for beating] and the alternative
explanation of the first joint of the thumb as a convenient, but
approximate standard of measurement seems so much more convincing.

I suspect sexual politics underlies the alternative 'explanation'.
The message that it carries is 'look how deeply violence against
women is embedded in the language!'. I would, indeed find this
very disturbing if I believed it.

But I don't.

-- 
Murray A. Jorgensen [ maj@waikato.ac.nz ]    University of Waikato
Department of Mathematics and Statistics     Hamilton, New Zealand      
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if only I've stated it thrice.'
From: MGRANAAS@CHARLIE.USD.EDU
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Subject: meaning of transformations
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:08:33 GMT
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Walter Davis makes an interesting point that in some cases transformed data
can be interpreted in a sensible way.  This is the first time that I've ever
wanted to consider seriously consider transformations as something other
than an ugly reality of life.  Can someone out there point me in the direction
of an article/chapter/book(?) that address transformations from the
perspective of interpreting the transformed data?  If no such article/chapter
exists would someone please write one?!

Thanks,

Michael M. Granaas
Dept. of Psychology
University of South Dakota

mgranaas@charlie.usd.edu
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From:         "SI00::SIGNORINOC" <SIGNORINOC%SI00.decnet@V3.HANSCOM.AF.MIL>
Subject:      RE: neg. binomial

                          E L E C T R O N I C   M A I L
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                                        Date:      19-Nov-1992 10:19
                                        From:      Lt Curtis S. Signorino
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                                        Dept:      ESC/XRPM
                                        Tel No:    617-377-7483 (DSN 478)

TO:  _DDN[STAT-L@VM1.MCGILL.CA]


Subject: RE: neg. binomial

    The program COUNT does exactly what you want.  It performs
    multiple regression for a number of distributions (poisson,
    negative binomial, generalized event count, hurdle poisson, &
    others) using maximum likelihood estimation.

    I'm not sure how COUNT is formally distributed.  It can be
    obtained either from Aptech Systems (somewhere in Washington
    state) or from Prof Gary King at Harvard University.  It is free
    of charge (although there may be some P&H fee).  Gary King's email
    address is gmk@isr.harvard.edu.

    I am currently upgrading COUNT and would be interested in
    suggestions for any additional distributions to include.  As the
    program's name implies, these distributions should be appropriate
    for either event count or duration data.

    Curt Signorino
From: WDAVIS@UNCVM1.BITNET (Walter Davis)
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Subject: Re: Normal probability plots
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:53:10 GMT
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              17 Nov 1992 09:40:00 PST from <CHAMBERLINC@AXE.HUMBOLDT.EDU>

On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:40:00 PST Charles Chamberlin said:
>Shapiro,Wilk,and Chen(1968) JASA 63:1343-1372 report an empirical
>comparison of alternative methods for testing for normality.  The
>methods they compare include the chi-squared test, the Kolmogorov-
>Smirnov test, as well as the Shapiro-Wilk test. 45 alternative
>distributions in 12 families and five sample sizes were studied.
>Overall, the S-W test was most powerful.
>It also can be applied to small sample sizes.
>

There is a chapter by D'Agostino in a book by D'Agostino and
Stephens titled _Goodness of Fit Techniques_ - the chapter is
all about tests for the normal distribution and includes tests
for univariate and multivariate normality.  Bollen _Structural
Equations with Latent Variables_ has a brief section on
tests of univariate and multivariate normality and presents
the tests which D'Agostino found worked best.  I have written
a SAS macro which uses SAS/IML to perform the tests presented
in Bollen.  If you'd like a copy, drop me a note (for those
of you who have already dropped me a note, everything will
be on the way soon).

hope this helps,

Walter Davis <WDAVIS@UNCVM1>
Department of Sociology
Institute for Research in Social Science
UNC - Chapel Hill
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:32:47 -0800
From:         JAMES@UCRAC1.UCR.EDU
Subject:      amstat news ...

While going thru the current issue of Amstat News, I noticed ad on pp 89 for
a biostatistician at the Western Psychiatric Institute & Clinic that tickled
my funny bone.
They want someone with "Prior experience working with large data sets and
statistical tests, knowledge of statistical software, and expertise with
MACRO (my emphasis) and micro computers ..."

I must confess my ignorance: I had no idea this beastie (macro computer) even
existed! Who knows, perhaps it has been lurking in my subconcious all these
years...

In the same issue, there are also a couple of good letters (pp. 20-21). I found
Meridith Warshaw's letter more compelling, may be because I am in the same
league too. Perhaps the "Isolated Statisticians" group (pp 4) will help some ...

Many other goodies are covered in this issue. E.g. the issue of certification
has finally gotten the attention it deserves. An e-mail discussion group has
been set up just for this issue: asacert@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (pp. 9)

james ssemakula
u.c. riverside

btw: does anyone know the e-mail address of Amstat News or ASA?
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:29:08 LCL
From:         "Mark D. H. Miller" <METRMDHM@SUVM.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Comparison of rankings

R.E. Gene Glass' problem of comparing set of rankings over two groups,
     one source not mentioned is

            Critchlow, Douglas E.
            Metric methods for analyzing partially ranked data.
            Springer, 1985.  (local LC call #  QA278.75 .C75 1985)

     Critchlow looks at several measures including Kendall's
     Coefficient of Concordance as well as measures by Ulam and others.
     Although his work is focussed on partial ranks, he does examine
     the case of complete rankings in developing a metric space
     approach to the problem.  Computer programs are listed in the book.


  *------------------------------------------------*
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    Syracuse University, Faculty Computing Services
    Research Data Center   { +1 315 443-1144 }
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:12:03 CST
From:         _April Milliken <BIOM030@UNLVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Higher Education?

I would lke some information from the experts...I know that you can all
help me.  I will be receiving my MS in biometry in May of 1993.  I am
now faced with two possibilities:  getting a job or going on for a PhD.
My interest lies in consulting, the people part of the job as well as the
statistics part.  I have experience in pharmaceuticals and agriculture
related fields.  Now, is where you can help me:

1.  Do you recommend working for awhile (time?) before going on for a
higher degree?  Di you wish you had or hadn't?

2.  Where did you get your PhD?  Do you recommend it to others?  Do you
know of a preferred school?


I am still weighing the issues as to what to do.  I don't really care for
the theory...though I know it is necessary...I much prefer the applied
side of statistics.  Please help me out by providing information.

Thanks,

April Milliken
Unversity of Nebraska-Lincoln

"I may be in Nebraska, but my heart belongs to Kansas State University!"
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Subject:      Re: need to improve LAN performance

As far as I am aware, software copyright states that you can legally make a
backup copy of something for archival purposes.  In our case, the CD-ROM
becomes the archival copy.  As long as we are following all other conditions
of our licensing agreement (i.e., making sure that no more than X users can
access simultaneously, etc.), there should be no copyright problem.

Incidentally, we have the two disc ABI mounted on the network.  Both discs
have been copied to the hard drive.  I have set up 3 600-660 Mb partitions on
a 2Gb hard drive.  The performance improvement is substantial.  I will soon
copy another extremely popular UMI database to hard disk to improve performance
on our 2nd CD Server.

Hope the above info is helpful!

Arne J. Almquist
Assistant to the Director of Libraries for
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Concordia University Library uses these drives extensively.  We have a
couple of observations to make about them.  The first is that many CD-ROM
database vendors don't provide any way of specifying which drive holds the
required disk, consequently, when the software is loaded, it will perform
a search of all the drives (doing it's own little inventory, I suppose)
before booting; which slows things down somewhat.  Secondly, when purchasing
these drives, if you are installing it on an IBM AT class machine or higher,
make sure to get a 16-bit controller card.  The 8-bit controller card will
slow the system down.

When installing these drives, you may run into problems on machines using
colour VGA monitors.  Usually these can be resolved by changing the addressing
used by the controller card - the manual should show you how to change the
jumpers on the cards.  Finally, unlike most other CD-ROM drives, the disks
themselves have to be placed on the caddies face down.

Good luck.
Peter Page and Diana Maharaj
Concordia University Library
Montreal, Canada