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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Silence...
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:03:22 GMT
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In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>> Don, I think your new system is screwing up again.:-)  You just resent
>> that entire post back to the list, unedited......
>>
>That's ok.  Some of us ancient folk have to be told things more than once.
>Hello, Ruth.
>doris
>
Hello Doris.  I thought premature senility was the province of us younger
types.  Guess not.:-)
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From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@RA.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nuclear
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> Posted on 8 Jan 1993 at 13:14:36 by Blue eyes cryin' in the rain
>
> >     If you say so, Bill.  But I have never heard anyone mispronounce the
> >     noun from which the adjective 'nuclear' is derived, nor another related
> >     adjective.
> >
> >     Why don't the nucularists say 'nuculus' or 'nuculic acid'?
>

To which Tony said:

> I've heard nuculus many times from people who say nucular.
> I've never heard nuculic acid, but it won't surprise me.

I second Tony's comments.  I've heard 'nuculus' more times than I like to
remember -- it makes me cringe as well, Neal.  What is amazing is the
educational level of the speaker -- rarely have they not been to college.

Joan
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:26:39 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Lure of the Net
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I can't believe I'm sitting here in the library using a computer with
a keyboard that flops around (it's hanging on some kind of dangling device)
and blinding myself by looking at the fuzziest monitor I've ever seen.  But
these computers were just sitting here staring at me...

No luck on croning books.  Our library has nary a one of the ones Susan
listed.  Am about to go find the Krol book now.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Famous horses
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>Right...and we lived in terrible suspense from Saturday to Saturday, never
>quite sure that the hero/heroine was going to escape from whatever
>disaster had beset them the week before.  Guess we weren't too observant,
>huh, or we'd have realized that they *always did.*
>ndh (whose favorite was one called "Black Arrow")

Or, perhaps, we were just 'evil little beasties' who hoped that one week they
wouldn't. :-)

Carolyn
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Anjani's Art/Literature Ques
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Make that last one "my own."
                       ^^^
And no smart remarks from anyone, please.
--ggs
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:11:46 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Baseball
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              12 Jan 93 12:40:03 -0500. <9301121747.AA15609@sics.se>

  >But perhaps as you suggest in Japanese, this is a woman's interpretation
  >of guy-stuff.

  I was just echoing your own suggestion! Actually woman's stuff and man's
stuff are equally obscure concepts to me in a case like this.
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:28:53 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Gleanings
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Would someone please send me the Gleanings?  My reader files got purged.
:(

Thanks!

Evelyn
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:22:02 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: First major problem in London
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>       Story around here, where we *do* have an 'h' at the end, is that there
>       was a movement in the US at some time (turn of the century?  WWI?) to
>       standardize such place names without the silent 'h'.  Thus, Pittsburg

This is something else I should probably know, but how did the silent-h
(the [g]) pronunciation get started in this country in the first place?
Why wasn't the Scottish pronunciation of 'gh' brought here when the spelling
was brought here?
  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:22:39 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%93011106165274@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:

>tie the knot!  Why does Rita detest new poster Gerard van der Leun so?

	He ees my boss, man.




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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: WORDS-L TP: Anjani's Art/Literature
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In a previous article, TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Blue eyes cryin' in the rain) says:

>>Perhaps I should have said "most older speakers of English" then. Did anyone
>>on the list over 40 not know what the 'staff of life' was?
>
>        Like MEM, I'm on the downhill side of the big 4-0.  I recognize that
>        bread is the staff of life, but what that has to do with the Lord's
>        Prayer *still* escapes me.
>
I was going to ask if your momma sent you to Sunday school.  Then I realized
she probably did, only it was the wrong kind of Sunday School.:-)  The 
connection's pretty obvious, actually, if one has the proper background.  
In those days, bread literally was the staple food for that region.  So,
someone asking for his/her "daily bread" was literally asking for
food to eat the next day.  I don't know where the word staff comes from in 
this context, but it's a well-known metaphor.:-/  

Is that any better?

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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:18:12 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: {Operative Human Biological Interchange
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>      hate.  In language, 'FUCK' falls into many grammatical categories.
>      It can be used as a verb, both transitive (John fucked Mary) and
>      intransitive (Mary doesn't really give a Fuck); or as an adverb (Mary

I'm a bit baffled by the example of intransitive verb.  Why not something
like "John fucks well"?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date: 11 Jan 1993 06:30:18 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>: it out, this is a hint to anybody who has the complete collection of abh in
>: England that I would be very much appreciative of your sending it to me...
>
>Don't look at me - I delete all abh's travelogues unread...
>
That's what you used to say about posts from me, Kooky, and we all know how
truthful *that* was.....

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Subject:      Re: Silence...

*** Resending note of 01/04/93 16:55


>ell, you could always hit ESC ESC W, and forget about the PF keys.:-)

>Anyway, normal Spring here, about 80.
Ick.  yecccch.  I'm almost jealous.:)

>Both items are now on my wall, and yes cover does look like Muffy (well
>when he was a few months old) minus two short ears.

Thought it might - all fur and dark eyes.:-)  It kind of reminded me of a
friend's bichon too.  Definitely a lap animal....

>Thank you ever-so-much.  You're a sweetheart.
>
<*blush*> [have to do that virtually; I never could manage it in person]
Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:08:38 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Klein's Canis
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> Made me wonder if Bernard kisses that way.

Bernard and I don't kiss and tell.  You'll just have to keep wondering.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:27:44 GMT
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  >Okay, I'm 38 messages behind, so this has probably already been
  >proposed, but: instead of sneaking out without any self-respect, I'm
  >going to let myself get trampled or made a spectacle of, and just be a
  >man about it.

  I abstain from pointing out the obvious flaws in this suggestion, since
it's clear that the whole thing has gone out of hand. Baseball is a
pestilential pastime, an endless source of mindless metaphors and witless
anecdotes.
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From:         Evelyn <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boston
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Judith,
  This sounds like the recipe my mother uses to make her salmon patties;
she doesn't use onions, but she does use milk and flour with the eggs and
salmon.

Evelyn
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:19:21 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: The burning fiery furnace
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> A passing tornado did make a brief sweep through our neighborhood a couple

A few years ago, a tornado was sweeping along about two blocks from my house
at the moment I was outside cooking a steak on the grill.  Bernard wouldn't
go outside that night.  He stood at the door and whimpered for me to come
back inside.  (The tornado's path that night was mainly trees.  The only
damage it did to person-made objects was to knock down one of the coaching
towers on the football practice field.)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: {Operative Human Biological Interchange
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> >I'm a bit baffled by the example of intransitive verb.  Why not something
> >like "John fucks well"?
> Are you actually giving it consideration? It's humour, though of course
> it's okay if you didn't realize it.

What's humor?  The intransitive example?  I didn't realize it because I don't
see that example as any funnier than the rest of the paragraph.  Is it that
"Mary really doesn't give a fuck" implies lack of "object"?  I guess that's
possible, although I find the humor in it pretty weak, especially since it's
the only one of the examples with that kind of humor.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nuclear
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Posted on 8 Jan 1993 at 17:03:13 by Tony Harminc

>>     If you say so, Bill.  But I have never heard anyone mispronounce the
>>     noun from which the adjective 'nuclear' is derived, nor another related
>>     adjective.
>>
>>     Why don't the nucularists say 'nuculus' or 'nuculic acid'?
>
>I've heard nuculus many times from people who say nucular.
>I've never heard nuculic acid, but it won't surprise me.

There are 300-odd messages to go, so maybe someone has already answered this
one, but might it not have something to do with the fact that a "cl" is easier
going into a stressed syllable than coming out of one?

b.c.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:20:41 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      My mistake
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I went back and took a look at that map; someone had taped a printed
label over the word "Caspian"; between the words "Caspian" and "Sea"
is the name "Azerbaijan" printed in the same sort of lettering.

Like this:    Caspian
              Azerbaijan
              Sea

I'd better have a talk with Geography!

Evelyn
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From:         Eileen Margerum <EMARGERUM@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
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        <I sat next a Glaswegian...who told me...how inflated the
        <claims of enmity between his folk and those who live in
        <Edinburgh were...

Its not really enmity as much as incomprehensibility.  Glaswegians
dream of getting a job in the factory and Edinburghians dream of
the Return of the King.  A friend of mine form Edinburghs suburbs
lives in England and dreams of going back to Auld Caledonia, yet I
doubt that he would consider a job in Glasgow.  It would irritate
him too much.  Yet he has been willing to try emigrating to Labrador
and northern British Columbia along the Alaska Highway.  Ive seen him
object to people having too much fun in a pub complaining that
they were Glaswegians.  On the other hand Ive seen a friend from Glaeca
get really uncomfortable with East Coasters who he sensed were cold and
unfriendly.  Its probably a Glasgow slur, but if you visit a Glaswegian
its said that he/she will say sure  you would like a bit to eat while the
citizen of Edinburgh will say surely youve eaten.
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:50:25 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      The burning fiery furnace
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  Robicheaux has rented a "small yellow-brick house" in Missoula, where he
is staying with the insufferably cute and angelic Alafair. As he gets up
in the morning, he lights a fire in the fireplace but also "turns on the
furnace". Later the heat from the "furnace vents" is mentioned. What type
of furnace would this be? Not, I suppose, a big down-in-the-cellar thing.
Is it more of a stove?
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From:         jc-s <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: colorado stupidity
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Good Morning America was going to have a little
thing about how the boycott was affecting the
convention business and ski business, but i
had to leave the house before
it came on.  Anyone see it?

jenna
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:12:51 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Good news for the archives!

>Courtesy of Fizzy (my sys man) it looks like there's a fair chance of
>rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk having lots of disk space free soon, at which point
>we'll be able to resurrect the gopher archives!

At which point, Graham's standard "look in the archives" reply will
actually cease to be meaningless. But the archives will have to be
good for the "I'd look up if I had the time" to stop.

tushar
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>>Well Carolyn, I'm not sure how you come to this conclusion, but in my
>>informal survey of co-workers, all born and raised in these United States and
>>2 of whom attend weekly Bible Study (and apparently weren't paying very good
>>attention), noone knew what to make of this question ... even those who could
>>recite the entire Lord's Prayer.
>
>Perhaps I should have said "most older speakers of English" then. Did anyone
>on the list over 40 not know what the 'staff of life' was?
>
I'm under 30, and had no problem with that question.:-)  Does that make me
weird[er]?
>
>wait until Round 3 before you're next go. I will post your choices for the
>next round when I am down to the last couple of players on this round.
>
Does that include me?  I hope?  In this round, that is?  If so, can we go
Science and Nature? [please?]  

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In a previous article, Graham Toal () says:

>:> > the man because men always get *sicker* than women. This is one reason
>:>
>:> She's right.  I think that men do get sicker than women.
>
>:Well, they definitely whine a lot better than women.  :)
>
>Sexist bastards, the lot of you.  Sniff sniff, whine whine :)
>
Turn about's fair play, dude.  I think men get away with it sometimes due
to that lost puppy look they get, combined with the red, drippy nose....
They just look so pathetic, it's enough to make a basset hound take acting
lessons.

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Gilbert,
  You get mentioned in the Digest more than I do.  It doesn't bother me
that I don't get mentioned; I always figure that things could be worse.

Evelyn
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From:         Don Thornton <DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: London Bridge
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I still vividly remember seeing the Boxtops perform _the_Letter_ live.
In a imitation of the Who doing some guitar destruction they smashed
wooden chairs on the stage, after an into the audience foray.

Well it was a small college.

Don
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Baseball
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              12 Jan 93 12:21:40 -0500. <9301121730.AA15048@sics.se>

  >>1) why does your self-respect require that you come up with a simple pitch
  >>from time to time,
  >It just somehow seems inevitable!

  What? Are you saying that your self-respect requires you to do this because
it somehow seems inevitable, or that it somehow seems inevitable that your
self-respect requires you do to this? Either way I am now more confused than
I was before. Kore wa onna-rashii omoikata deshoo? Otoko-rashii omoikata yori
hen da to omoimasu...

  >Both are deliberate acts with foreseeable negative consequences.

  Again, the analogy needs to involve self-respect.
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      New Star Trek
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BTW, would it help if I mentioned the fact that the new commander is a
HUNK!

Evelyn
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:21:29 -0600
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The burning fiery furnace
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> >Way down here in Texas we don't have cellars, so if the furnace is not in
> >a small closet kind of space it is in the attic, as ours is.  The vents
> >are on the wall near the ceiling or in the ceiling itself.
>
> Yecch - and inefficient as all get-out, no doubt.

Yes, well, that's us Southerners all over...lackadaisical and inefficient.
However, we do manage to survive somehow...particularly on harsh winter
days like yesterday when the temperature hovered around 70 here.
ndh
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