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From: adam@research.nj.nec.com (Adam Porter)
Subject: 3rd Party CD-ROM on Indigo?
Originator: adam@acapella.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:02:39 GMT

Do 3rd party CD-ROM drives work on the Indigo?  (Or other 3rd party
peripherals?)  I want to use an NEC drive with the Indigo (currently
running 4.0.1) but cdromd complains about it being an unfamiliar
CD-ROM.  (But it knew I had an NEC drive!)  Does anyone have any
clues?  Is there a driver for this out there somewhere?

Thanks a lot...


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							-Adam
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Curious problem with "w" and "ps"
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 01:51:48 GMT

In <1992Apr10.183000.5904@biome.bio.ns.ca> silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert) writes:

| I love 4.0.1, always something exciting to keep me from my research...
| 
| Yesterday I was playing around with my configuration files (.sgisession,
| .Xdefaults, .chestrc) and noticed that the system was slowing down.  So
| I ran ps to see whether I had started some runaway processes, but the
| window froze -- no response, and although my keystrokes were echoed I
| couldn't abort.  Another window, same problem.  Is someone playing with
| the system?  I wondered, and tried w.  That had the same effect.
| Another window and I ran last -- that worked OK.  So last worked, but
| not w or ps.
| 
| I logged out and logged in on a separate account that had no
| configuration files.  Same problem!  All I can figure out was that
| something was running that didn't die when I logged out and which kept
| ps and w from functioning.
| 
| Finally I rebooted and that solved the problem.  Any ideas what happened?
| And how can I get a clearer diagnosis if it happens again, given that I
| can't run ps.

How long did you wait before giving up?  I'll bet that something
changed so that ps needed to rebuild the /tmp/.ps_data file, and
ran afoul of an nlist() bug that makes it take a lot of memory
(already fixed in later releases).  If the system was already loaded,
this can lead to a lot of paging.  Next time I would suggest waiting
a bit longer (say 5 minutes or more, depending) and see what happens.

Mind you, I've never seen it take more than a couple of minutes absolute
worst case, but you never know.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: rlafolle@duchamp.nswc.navy.mil (Robert D. LaFollette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Request for Information
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:10:36 GMT



	I am working on a scene synthesis program in support of a
Tomahawk Missile simulation.  We are now trying to add 3D objects
(man-made and natural) to our scenes.  We are currently in the 
process of attaining BRL-CAD for building some of these models. 
Models that have already been produced would of course accelerate
our program.  If anyone knows of model libraries that are available
for public use I would certainly appreciate you sharing this 
knowledge with me.  Also, if anyone knows of software, papers, ...
concerning building natural objects with mathematical functions,
fractals, or some other method this too would be helpful.  

	I already know about the library of models at 
cs.uoregon.edu.  

	Have a nice day !




		Attn: Code N40MP   Robert LaFollette 
		Dahlgren Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
		Dahlgren, VA 22448-5000

		(703)663-4749   autovon 249-4749
		FAX (703)663-4749
		Email   rlafoll@see.nswc.navy.mil
			rlafoll@128.38.15.54
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: ujtzeng@ccsun10 (Uen-Jiun Tzeng)
Subject: File table overflow
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 04:15:46 GMT

Our Personal Iris 4D/35 give me this warning message :

"Apr 11 21:51:26 cciris2 unix: NOTICE: File table overflow"

We just upgrade the OS from 3.x.x to 4.0.1 several days before. 
It's has only 8MB RAM. Anybody knows about this message?
Thanks.
		Uen-Jiun
From: randy@tessa.iaf.uiowa.edu (randy frank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: FAM using up LARGE amounts of CPU time
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:39:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Iowa, Image Analysis Facility

Hello,
	I ran into a little problem the other day at a remote site I
write software for.  They have a 310VGX and a 35 both running 4.0.1
and both with 32+ Megs of RAM.  Their machines mount each others drives
via NFS and their users rely heavily on Workspace.  What I noticed is
that under 4.0.1 my software was running slowly on these machines (as
compared to the performance under 3.3).  On my development net (a mixture
of Indigos, 20s, GTXs and a crimson running 4.0.1,4.0.2, and 4.0.3) I
do not see this at all.  Under closer examination I found that the
machines in question were losing a large amount of CPU time to "fam".
(~30% on the VGX and ~80% on the 35) I have not backed off the NFS 
interval from 3 secs yet and will probably try that today.  Does
anyone have any other suggestions?  Could it be something about their
NFS topology?  The two machines are just connected together via ethernet
they are not connected to any other machines.

Please respond via Email (randy@tessa.iaf.uiowa.edu)

Thanks in advance,

--
rjf.
Randy Frank, Engineer                       |  (319) 335-6712       
University of Iowa, Image Analysis Facility |  73 EMRB              
randy@tessa.iaf.uiowa.edu                   |  Iowa City, IA 52242
From: rainer@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Rainer Kleinrensing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Indigo: permission problem when creating file on floppy disk
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:23:51 GMT
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany

Hello there,
recently we got a floppy drive for our Indigo. After installing it
and mounting a disk, I noticed that only root can create a file on 
the disk, a 'normal' user not. If I try, I get the message
Apr  7 17:17:25 indi1 unix: NFS write error 13 on host /dev/rdsk/fds0d2.3.5hi
in SYSLOG.
Should I apply any special options to mount resp. the /etc/fsd.auto file ?
Currently, it looks like 
/dev/scsi/sc0d4l0 /cdrom cdrom ro 0 0
/dev/rdsk/fds0d2.3.5 /floppy dos probe 0 0

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
  
	Rainer Kleinrensing                rainer@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de
	Institute for Applied Mathematics 
	Bonn University
	Wegelerstr. 6 
	W5300 Bonn
	Germany

	Phone: +49-228-73-3427  Fax: +49-228-73-7864
From: ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu (Anthony J. Persechini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  xpsview?
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:45:00 GMT
Reply-To: ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester

In article <s26tlINNlcg@network.ucsd.edu>, sd@chem.ucsd.edu (Steve Dempsey) writes:
|> In article <29976@adm.brl.mil> blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov (Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB) writes:
|> >
|> >  DPS execution environment may not be on the media you were sent.  We have
|> >two machines in my branch with IDENTICAL FULL support contract on both.
|> >A box that came for one machine had DPS execution on the CD, while the box
|> >for the other machine did NOT have it, but it did have the DPS development.
|> >So between the two sets of CD's, I THINK we have all the software we are
|> >SUPPOSE to have.  Why did SGI have to make things soooo complicated?!
|> >(I think it was the marketing folks fault, NOT the engineers falt.  We all
|> > know how great the engineers are. ;-))
|> >
|> >  Brent L. Bates				Phone:(804) 864-2854
|> >  NASA-Langley Research Center			  FAX:(804) 864-8469
|> >  M.S. 361
|> >  Hampton, Virginia  23665-5225
|> >  E-mail: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero8.larc.nasa.gov
|> 
|> Consider yourself lucky, Brent.  Now, could someone at SGI please explain 
|> why some existing customers received DPS execution with their 4.0.1 upgrade,
|> and others have to pay extra for it?  I have a dream...
|> 
|> 	"Dear Valued Customer,
|> 	"
|> 	"As a valued Silicon Graphics customer with a support contract,
|> 	"one of the benefits you receive is updates of the latest
|> 	"operating system.  We're sorry we screwed you with the 4.0.1
|> 	"update, but to make up for it we have a limited time offer.
|> 	"Just fill out the enclosed card, return it by June 1, 1992,
|> 	"and we will send you an IRIS Indigo Elan, free of charge.
|> 	"Since this is a new machine, you will receive all of the software
|> 	"that was missing from your 4.0.1 update.
|> 
|> 

For all similarly pissed-off sgi customers:

I groused about this a while ago and was contacted by someone at sgi who
said I should call the hotline and demand the dps_eoe stuff. You know what?
This worked. In fact, I received the installation tape at no charge in a matter of
only a few days. (I am posting this at the suggestion of the unamed (unsung?)
sgi employee.)

While this does not correct sgi's initial, foolish policy, it does ameliorate it a little.

-- 
Anthony Persechini
Assistant Professor
University of Rochester School of Medicine
ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu
From: SERRER@odin.nrc.ca (Martin Serrer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: ESPN graphics
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:50:42 GMT

Hi,

  Since SGI is supplying ESPN with cool graphics for the America's Cup, does
that mean we'll see a networked matchracing demo (wouldn't want to call it a
game) with the next release of IRIX?
  Wouldn't that be a drain on project time ;-)

  Just a curious sailor... Martin

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Martin Serrer                           Bldg.M32,  Montreal Rd.             |
| 613-993-9442                            National Research Council of Canada,|
| Martin.Serrer@nrc.ca                    Ottawa,  Ontario,  Canada  K1A-0R6  |
+------------------- Software Rusts, Rust never Sleeps -----------------------+
From: dong@umiacs.umd.edu (Dong Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: syslog fail to work
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:30:10 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

Hello,
I just noticed my syslog isn't working right.
Normally the /usr/adm/SYSLOG will keep all the system activition.
But I found that file has been empty for a few days, during witch I have 
login and ftp and did a lot of other things.
I checked the /adm/sys/SYSLOG is writeable by root and the syslogd is
runing.
What else could go wrong ?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: debug process file, what is it?
Keywords: debug process file, question
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 19:41:22 GMT

In <12157@tamsun.tamu.edu> k1w8221@sc.tamu.edu (Khalid Sarwar Warraich) writes:

| Hi,
| 
| I need help figuring out what a 'debug process file' is.  First some
| background:
| 
| We have a personal IRIS running IRIX System V.3.  It has among other
| partitions the following partition:
| 
| Filesystem                 Type     blocks    use    avail  %use   Mounted on
| ..
| /debug                      dbg     103808   10576   93232   10%    /debug

See 'man dbg' for a full discussion.  By the way, it isn't V.3,
although parts of the system are based on S5R3.X. You probably mean
IRIX 3.3.  (man debug works in 4.0, I don't remember if it did 
under 3.3.)

--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: howarth@uth.tmc.edu (Jack W. Howarth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Is there an lp for the PC?
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:24:19 GMT


  I understand that Irix does not support the use of lpr for printing
from remote hosts. We would like to be able to print from etherneted
IBM PCs to our 4D/25's laserprinter. Unfortunately all we have is an
lpr.exe program for the PC. Is there an lp version of such a DOS
program for use with Sys V unixes that use lp rather than lpr for
remote printing. Please e-mail any information about such software and
any anonymous ftp sites that might have it. Thanks.
                  Jack


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From: spl@alex.uucp (Steve Lamont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Questions about Explorer...
Keywords: Explorer, AVS
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:04:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.s4ea5INNc03
Organization: University of Calif., San Diego/Microscopy and Imaging Resource
NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.ucsd.edu

In article <702877201@macbeth.cs.duke.edu> hsg@duke.cs.duke.edu (Henry Greenside) writes:
>
>Can someone please summarize for me what the relation
>between Explorer and AVS is? ...

(Hi Henry!)

Craig Upson was responsible for both of them.

						spl (the p stands for
						pretty nice hacks, too)
-- 
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UCSD Microscopy and Imaging Resource/UCSD Med School/La Jolla, CA 92093-0608
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                           - T.S. Eliot, "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: File table overflow
Date: 12 Apr 92 06:13:43 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Apr12.041546.28132@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> ujtzeng@ccsun10 (Uen-Jiun Tzeng) writes:

| Our Personal Iris 4D/35 give me this warning message :
| 
| "Apr 11 21:51:26 cciris2 unix: NOTICE: File table overflow"
| 
| We just upgrade the OS from 3.x.x to 4.0.1 several days before. 
| It's has only 8MB RAM. Anybody knows about this message?
| Thanks.

You probably had configured your previous kernel for a larger value of
NFILE in /usr/sysgen/master.d/kernel (look to see if you have a
kernel.O), or have started running new programs (in which case, incrase
NFILE, and run /etc/autoconfig).  The value has nothing to with memory
size, but I will say that running a 35 with only 8 Mb is rather
wasteful, even under 3.3.  Most programs will be waiting for disk i/o
ost of the time...
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
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From: murgesh@sgi.com (Murgesh Navar)
Subject: Re: Help! I Can't See The Screen!
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:19:52 GMT

In article <ji8ftno@zuni.esd.sgi.com> olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:
>In <1992Apr14.233503.20611@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> senseman@lonestar.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman) writes:
>
>| As a biologist, I was trained to experiment -- this particular
>| experiment didn't work as planned and now I can't see the screen
>| on a PI 4D/20 (8-bit graphics). The experiment was to see if
>| I could save diskspace by NFS mounting /usr/lib. OK it was a 
>| dumb idea. Anyway, I restored /usr/lib from an Indigo XS24
>| (i.e. rcp -r indigo:/usr/lib pi:/usr). Now when the PI goes
>| into Pandora the screen goes completely BLACK! (It looks
>| normal before that). Is there something simple I can do
>| to restore the screen or must I reload the operating system?
>
>You don't have the right device dependent modules for the
>X server.  Copy /usr/lib/X11/dyDDX/* from another PI, or
>reinstall that subsystem from eoe2; eoe2.sw.X11, I think.
>--
	If you do copy from another PI you would also need to
get the right GL libraries -  /usr/lib/(libgl.a,libgl_s,libgl_s.a).

					-murgesh
From: fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Telnet to VMS
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:27:26 GMT

Jim Howard <ICSJHH%asuacad.bitnet@BRL.MIL> writes:

>We're haveing problems telnet'ing to a Vax VMS system. The full screen
>editing doesnt seem to keep the iris screen updated. We've tried several
>different TERM settings and VMS set term settings? Any suggestions?
>
Somebody sent me a script a while back that uses xterm to 
emulate a vt100 ... works very well.  Mail if interested.

Fred Phelan
fred@poly2.nist.gov
From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Parallel make?
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:00:18 GMT

From article <ivhj1no@fido.asd.sgi.com>, by rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com (Robert Keller):
> 
> Take a look at the smake/pmake(1) man page.  pmake is a seperate
> make-esque command that can do parallel makes.  You don't need 
> MP machines to take advantage of this either!  Since some of the 
> time spent compiling on a uni-processor is wasted waiting for I/O,
> with pmake you can use that time to compile something else.
> 
> ....robert
Or use gnu-make.  Works great.
--
Kent Williams         | "Do you see your cerebellum as a lightbulb or a cog? I
williams@cs.uiowa.edu | saw mine as gristle so I fed it to the dog. But it 
Quote: Bevis Frond    | taste so bad, that she left it in the bowl ..."
From: system@silly.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: wired tape drive problem, help?
Keywords: tape drive
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:17:08 GMT
Organization: Theretical Physics Center, TAMU
Originator: system@silly.tamu.edu

Hi, everyone, all you gurus.

	I have been reading news from this group for a while, but it is 1st
time for me to post anything and asking for help.

	We have a 4d/340 running irix3.3.2. It's tape drive is one of the pain
in the b***. It seems like taking forever to reset the tape drive.
	
	I was trying to backup the user data on several 3M 150mgbyte tapes. It 
happened like this: after first tape is filled up, computer asks for the second
tape and press a return. Since I was not at the place when this happend. So I
just did what the computer asked for. Now the drive just hangs over there and
doing nothing. The light indicator on the drive is on, no spinning, no 
rewinding, nothing at all. This kind of siduation happens a lot, and the only 
way to get the drive back is REBOOTING the machine. I wonder that it is a kown
problem or I did something wrong. Is there anyway to work around? Or the tape 
drive is bad?

	Another similar problem is also about the tape drive. It takes so long 
to get the tape drive to react a command such as mt ret, mt rewind, etc. 
Sometimes you just get the I/O-to tape drive error. Then you have to reboot the
machine to get it back. What is going on here?

	Please post your answer to this news group or email to
system@silly.tamu.edu

	Thanks in advance.

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The configuration of the is as following:

4 33 MHZ IP7 Processors
FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 3.0
CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0
Data cache size: 64 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 64 Kbytes
Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
Integral Ethernet controller: Version 2
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93
Tape drive: unit 7 on SCSI controller 0: QIC 150
Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
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From: tpaquette@ita.lgc.com (Trevor Paquette)
Subject: Re: electronic submission of bug reports
Organization: Landmark/ITA Inverse Theory and Applications
	<j7jbmck@sgi.sgi.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:08:19 GMT


In article <j7jbmck@sgi.sgi.com> vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:

>My unscientific surveys of requests in comp.sys.sgi over the years show
>that the most of those asking for email bug reporting do not wish to pay
>for support.  It seems to me that those who pay for support are generally
>accomodated no matter how they want to communicate.  The support people
>certainly circulate enough email, ftp dumps, tapes, faxes, and voice mail.
 .
> Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com

  This system could be just that though.. bug reports. Not "Help me with
this problem". Not "I need a fix for this". But just to reports bugs.
You could even have the system mail back a reply saying it was recieved
and will be looked into if deemed necessary. Anything going to this address
is subject to being ignored.. etc etc etc..

  Just my two cents..

Trevor Paquette                   | Landmark/ITA, Inverse Theory & Applications
tpaquette@ita.lgc.com             | Suite 1101, 425 1st St S.W.
Visitor from CyberSpace           | Calgary, Alberta, Canada   T2P 3L8
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From: apas611@chpc.utexas.edu (David Boles)
Subject: Repost of questions ...
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 13:44:43 GMT

Sorry to post this again, but my mail seems to have gone South.
I have removed the forwarding from this account to my SGI, so
I should get mail you send (if you do send any).

1. How do "splats" work in explorer.  What is the software
   doing to simulate volumetrix rendering?  What does the
   error setting specify?

2. How do I set the screen background and screen saver in my
   startup scripts?  The "granite" background in the toolchest
   doesn't seem to be the "granite" bitmap found in the X11
   stuff.

3. Has anyone ported MH to IRIX4?  Presumably SGI has since
   they supplied me with xmh.

4. When I installed IRIX4, I configured the sendmail.cf file
   for the characteristics of my machine, i.e., I am in a sub-
   domain of the domain of the mail host at my site, etc.  In
   response to my previous posting a few days ago, I got one
   response from a guy at NASA in Cleveland.  Since then, I
   have received nothing from outside the "utexas" area.  To
   my knowledge, nothing changed on my system.  Could the prob-
   lem be elsewhere?  Any tips on debugging this?

Thank you very much for your patience and bandwidth, 

David Boles
default local sysadmin (i.e., I wasn't at the meeting)
Applied Research Labs
Unioversity of Texas at Austin
From: bob@caw2.4950tw.wpafb.af.mil (Bob Plested)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Problem with pfa
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:35:52 GMT


I ran the Fortran accelerator on the following subroutine and got back
a routine with no executable statements. 

	Subroutine vctrs (panel_count)

	Integer i, panel_count
	Real x(101), z(101), cnpt(100,2), nvec(100,2), len(100)

	Common / geom / x, z
	Common / deriv / cnpt nvec len
c
c For each panel, determine the panel length, control point position,
c and the normal outward vector.
c
	Do 10, I = 1, panel_count 
	  len(i) = sqrt( (x(i+1) - x(i))**2 + (z(i+1) - z(i))**2)
	  cnpt(i,1) = (x(i+1)+x(i))/2
	  cnpt(i,2) = (z(i+1)+z(i))/2
	  nvec(i,1) = -(z(i+1) - z(i))/len(i)
	  nvec(i,2) =  (x(i+1) - x(i))/len(i) 
10	Continue
	Return
	End

Because (I guess) I pass the results of the do loop through common blocks,
the optimizer doesn't think I ever need them. But I do!

This is strange. I can force this to work, but the inaccurate assumption
on the part of the compiler is troubling.

Has anybody seen this before?
Bob
 
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