From: Tom Moellering <moeller@convex.com>
Subject: Re: Mail Order CD's?
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:16:34 GMT
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In article <SCHOUTEN.93Jan5120029@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu> schouten@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten) writes:
>Does anyone know of a good place to order CCM CDs?
>(here good is loosely defined as wide selection and reasonably low
>price)
>CBD is OK for books but have almost no CDs.
>`Christian' book stores I've been in have high prices and poor (IMHO)
>selection.

I give up, a FAQ is more like a FIQ.  Here it is again:


This is the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for the rec.music.christian
newsgroup.  Since this is an unmoderated group, it is not by any means the
only FAQ that could exist, but since there has never been one done, this
one has sprung into existence.

New stuff and/or changes since last posting are indicated by vertical
bars '|' in the first column.

Thanks to at least the following people, whose addresses I remembered to
save, for their contributions:
        jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
        clopton5107@iscsvax.uni.edu
        pearsodc@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
        gt6223b@prism.gatech.edu
        tll6551@zeus.tamu.edu
        chaplin@keinstr.uucp
        ajw@cblpn.att.com
        cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
        trw@spl1.spl.loral.com
        arthur.marsh@f812.n800.fido.zeta.org.au
        stucki@retina.cis.ohio-state.edu
        n3x092@rick.cs.ubc.ca
        tmn@ra.chem.psu.edu
        hotuckch@iscs.nus.sg

Forward any comments, corrections, and/or additions to:
Tom (moeller@convex.com)
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Index:
        ) Publications: (size, price, address, etc.)
        ) Where To Buy The Stuff We Talk About:
        ) Secular CCM
        ) The Alternative (is this too broad of a category?)
        ) The all-inclusive released material list
        ) Wedding Songs
        ) Industrial
        ) "Is Christian Rock an oxymoron?" 
        ) Artist FAQ


) Publications: (size, price, address, etc.)
  Not intended to be an advertisement.  I do not receive money or
  discounts for mentioning any of the following.  (they probably don't
  even know I exist)

  These are all listed here, in no intended order, for the edification
  of those who can't seem to find a source for information on so-and-so's
  latest release.  Or an interview with favorite musician N.

        Contemporary Christian Music Magazine           1-800-333-9643
        P.O. Box 2070
        Knoxville, IA 50197-2070
        subscription: $19.95 for 1 year, 12 issues.
                This one's scope is rather broad.  They try to hit
                everything and to not be too nasty, although every now
                and then even they have to draw the line.  Positive
                side: once you get to know the reviewers, its a cake-walk.

                They have been accused of mediocrity on the one hand and
                worldliness on the other.  Sounds like they are right on
                target.  You can find Sandi Patti and King's X in the same
                issue.

        Syndicate (used to be Harvest Rock Syndicate)
        P.O. Box 24633
        Nashville, TN 37202
        subscription: 1 Year, 6 issues: $7.50
                Brian Quincy Newcomb is the editor.  Quite a publication.
                This is more of a Christians in rock and roll publication.
                They even include reviews of purely secular material.  (As
                opposed to secular label bands with christians)

        Cornerstone
        939 W. Wilson Ave.
        Suite 202-C
        Chicago, IL  60640
        subscription: $15.00 for 12 consecutive issues (approx. 3-5 times/year)
                Loosely connected with JPUSA.  Not just music here.
                But when they do review and/or interview, they do tend
                to know what they are talking about.

        Heaven's Metal
        P.O. Box 17367
        Austin Texas 78760-7367
        subscription: $12 for 1 year (6 issues)
                The name sez it all.  Published every other month.
                (send $1 for sample issue)

        Notebored (Subscriptions)        Tel: (215) 593-7176
        P.O.Box 238                    
        Atglen, PA  19310-0238           1 yr (6 issues) is $8

        ACM Journal                             (206) 863-0632        
        P.O.Box 1273
        Sumner, WA  98390
        subscription is $5/yr (3 issues and CD)
        ($5 US,APO,FPO -- $7 Canada & Mexico -- $8 S. America & International, 
         3rd class postage in the US, Surface mail overseas)
                Literally:  Alternative Christian Music
                Deals with more than just music reviews. Has had some
                articles on Christians in the arts (painters, theatrics, etc),
                how to go about putting out an album and such (with a price
                list for general idea of cost), interviews with radio
                station owners, such.  Also has a listing by category of
                alt. Christian bands with their addresses.


        True News Magazine                    1-800-669-TRUE
        210 W. Front St.
        Wheaton, IL 60187

        Free magazine from True Tunes.  Published quarterly.
        Contains plenty of reviews (mostly for the alternative crowd) and
        also a few articles.  Pretty good stuff for something that's free.


       The Cutting Edge.    1-407-298-6927 (10pm-12midnight Eastern US time)
       c/o Dan Kennedy
       8303 Hilton Way
       Orlando FL 32810
       USA
       Great reviews, interviews and other assorted information
       with an emphasis on the underground.  Formerly monthly, now published
       every 2 months.
       Subscriptions are US$10 for the USA, US$11 for Canada, and US$22 for the
       rest of the world.


) Where To Buy The Stuff We Talk About:
  Not intended to be an advertisement.  I do not receive money or
  discounts for mentioning any of the following.  (they probably don't
  even know I exist)

  No attempt has been made here to list the sale-du-jour since that kind
  of thing changes over time.


        Long's Christian Music    407-422-0293 (vox)  407-649-1914 (fax)
        1610 Edgewater Drive            (Mon-Sat 9AM-6PM EST)
        Orlando, FL 32804               average CD price: $12.50
                Infinite selection.  Their catalog is a must if you want to
                have a list of everything that is available.

        CDM (Christian Digital Music)   (up to $5.00 credit for trade-ins)
        4051 Berrywood Drive            send a S.A.S.E. for a free catalog.
        Santa Maria, CA 93455           average CD price: $8.99
                Sure the selection isn't as great, but who else is going to
                give you $5 credit for your used CCM CDs?

        Christian Book + Supply         1-800-323-3947 (10AM-5PM  EST)
        481 Great Rd
        Acton, MA  01720
                Their mail order is mostly music, but you _can_ order just
                about any Christian merchandise from them.  Their average
                CD prices are $11.98 (and if you buy five, you get one free).

        True Tunes                      1-800-669-TRUE
        210 W. Front St.
        Wheaton, IL 60187
                Tend to go after the 'alternate' crowd a little more, in that
                they offer sales on artists that mainstream outfits don't.

        Jacob's Ladder Christian Music & Video                1-616-392-3303
        214 College Avenue
        Holland, MI 49423

        Rad Rocker's Emporium

        Family Record & Tape Club
        A Division of Word DMS, Inc.
        P.O. Box 10659
        Des Moines IA 50380-0659
                If you don't have any CDs yet, then get in on their
                no-commitment membership.  4 for $1 apiece (+ shipping).
                Selection is limited and prices in general are not that
                great to warrant staying with the club, unfortunately.
                But for the first time CCM CD purchaser, this is a deal
                you shouldn't pass up.

        Christian Music Buyers Club     1-800-695-2622 (Mon-Fri 10AM-5PM CST)
        P.O. Box 121916
        Nashville, Tennessee 37212      average CD price: $10.49
                Never have tried this, but they say they have posters, too.

        Phydeaux
        1482 DeTracey Street
        San Jose CA 95128
                Mostly Larry Norman and/or produced by him.

        Christian Book Distributors
        PO Box 6000
        Peabody MA 01961-6000
                Orders: 508 977 5000 M-F 8am-9pm, Sat 9am-5pm
                Customer service: 508 977 5050 MF 9-5:30
                Technical assistance (for books?): 508 977 5040 MF 9-5:30

                Admittedly, mostly a book seller, but they do sell some music.
                Recent issue (bimonthly catalog) had about 1000,
                predominantely mainstream, titles.

                Don't overlook their W-I-D-E variety of christian books:
                        fundamentalist, charismatic, mainline,
                        scholarly, devotional, practical

  Don't forget to check out the cut-out sections at your local secular music
  outlets, since they sometimes will be getting rid of CCM at low prices:
  $2.88, $1.44, etc.  Also don't forget to check out the used stores which,
  believe it or not, do carry quite a bit of CCM.  I don't know who buys this
  stuff and then sells it at such a loss to them, but you should take advantage
  of this wherever and whenever you can.  And don't forget pawn shops.
  Especially if you don't have a used record shop in your town, this will be
  the place that all of the used CDs go to.

  Or:
         The used music server (used-music-server@cs.ucsb.edu) maintains a
         database of used music (CDs, records, tapes, etc.) for sale and a
         separate (but equal) database of used music that is wanted.  In
         addition to HELP (this message), there are currently 11 commands:
         LIST, LIST OTHER, LIST ALL, LIST CHANGES, LIST WANTED,
         LIST WANTED OTHER, ADD, REFRESH, DELETE, SUBSCRIBE, and UNSUBSCRIBE.
 
         The server mails out an updated list every Monday morning.  Send mail
         to used-music-server@cs.ucsb.edu with `HELP' in the Subject: line and
         nothing in the body.


) Secular CCM
  Well, this is a really tough category to write.  Though I consider myself
  to have a rather healthy exposure to this category, I still haven't listened
  to all of these bands.  So I can't really pass judgement on them.  But then
  again that isn't my job description, is it? ;-)

  Suffice it to say that if you ever get to this category you will find
  yourself dealing with one or more of the following questions:

                 What am I really listening to music for anyway?
                 What makes music christian?
                 Was the sole use of music in the bible evangelical?
                 Does a Christian recording label make something more holy?

        The Alarm
        T Bone Burnett
        The Call
        Larry Carlton  
        Peter Case
        Ashley Cleveland
        Bruce Cockburn
        Galactic Cowboys
        John Hiatt
        Innocence Mission
        King's X
        Lillian Axe
        Midnight Oil
        The Ocean Blue
        Paul Oversreet
        Sam Phillips
        Ricky Van Shelton
        Ricky Skaggs
        Stryper
        U2
        Victoria Williams
        Seven Stories
        v.Spy v.Spy



) The Alternative (is this too broad of a category?)
  Alternative is a hard thing to nail down.  One man's alternative, is another
  man's mainstream.  And one man's alternative is another man's amusical trash.
  I know that I have been guilty of the charge of not liking
  anything that was popular.  However, for purposes of categorization, anathema
  to the true outsider anyway, if it isn't available to the buying public
  through normal retail channels, it may be too alternative for its own good.

  These artists tend to have more creative ideas than a label can ever
  hope to contain.  So the various aliases, alter egos and founding member
  names are given for better tracking of their musical careers.
  In no particular order:

        Daniel Amos, DA, Da, da, Swirling Eddies  (Terry Scott Taylor)
        Adam Again (Riki Michelle, Gene Eugene)
        The 77's (Mike Roe, Aaron Smith)
        Lifesavors, Lifesavers, LS Underground, LSU (Michael Knott)
        The Choir (Derri Daughtery, Steve Hindalong)
        Veil Of Ashes (Sean Doty)
        the violet burning
        Steve Scott
        Charlie Peacock
        Vector
        Mad At The World (Roger Rose, Randy Rose)
        Undercover (Joey Ojo Taylor)
        The Throes
        The Altar Boys (Ric Alba, Mike Stand)
        The Swoon
        Painted Orange
        Breakfast With Amy (Chris Colbert)
        Dead Artists Syndrome (Brian Healy)

) The all-inclusive released material list
  This category is intended to serve as the list of all commercial releases
  for the people who seem to get asked about the most.  Listed from oldest
  to most recent.  I have a feeling that this category will be a mistake,
  but here goes:


  Steve Taylor (everything is sparrow, unless otherwise indicated)
        I Wanna Be A Clone (CD)
        Meltdown
        Meltdown Remixes
        Meltdown & Meltdown Remixes (CD)
        On The Fritz (CD) (out-of-print)
        Limelight (live)
        Transatlantic Remixes
        I Predict 1990 (CD) (myrrh)
        The Best We Could Find + 3 that never escaped (includes entire IWBAC) (CD)
        (for anything more, see Chagall Guevara)


  Chagall Guevara
        Pump Up The Volume soundtrack: Tale Of The Twister (on the CD only)
        Chagall Guevara  (CD)

  Tonio K.

        Life in the Foodchain (pre-conversion)
        Amerika (post-coversion)
        Romeo Unchained
        Notes from the lost civilization
        (Current status: supposedly fronting an unsigned band
                         called 16 Tons of Monkeys)

  Bruce Cockburn (to be added to the email group for him, send email to:
                         humans-request@death.corp.sun.com)

         Bruce Cockburn                 - 1969
         High Winds White Sky           - 1970
         Sunwheel Dance                 - 1971
         Salt Sun and Time              - 1973
         Night Vision                   - 1974
         Joy Will Find A Way            - 1975
         In The Falling Dark            - 1976
         Circles in the Stream          - 1977
         Further Adventures of ...      - 1978
         Dancing in the Dragon's Jaws   - 1979
         Humans                         - 1980
         Inner City Front               - 1981
         Resume                         - 1982
         Trouble with Normal            - 1982
         Stealing Fire                  - 1984
         Waiting for a Miracle          - 1985
         World of Wonders               - 1987
         Big Circumstance               - 1988
         Bruce Cockburn Live            - 1990
         Nothing But a Burning Light    - 1991

  Sam (Leslie) Phillips
        Beyond Saturday Night
        Dancing With Danger
        Black and White In A Grey World
                significant_style_change_at_this_point
        The Turning                     (myrrh)
        The Indescribable Wow           (virgin)
        Recollections                   (myrrh)
        Cruel Inventions                (virgin)

  Mark Heard
        Appalachian Melody              - 1976
        Stop the Dominoes               - 1979
        Mosaics                         - 1982
        Victims of the Age              - 1982
        Ashes and Light                 - 1984
        Mark Heard's Greatest Hits      - 1986
        Tribal Opera (under the pseudonym: Ideola) - 1987
        Dry Bones Dance                 - 1989
        Second Hand                     - 1991
        Satellite Sky                   - 1992

  Randy Stonehill
        Born Twice - 1970?
        Welcome to Paradise - 1976?
        The Sky is Falling - 1980
        Between the Glory and the Flame - 1981
        Equator - 1983
        Celebrate This Heartbeat - 1984
        Love Beyond Reason - 1985
           (cassette version had extended remix of "Gods of Men")
        "I Could Never Say Goodbye" extended-mix single - 1985
           (duet with Amy Grant from Love Beyond Reason;
            also has album cut and extended-mix of "Love Beyond Reason";
            on translucent yellow vinyl)
        The Wild Frontier - 1986
           (produced by Dave Perkins)
        Can't Buy a Miracle - 1988
           (produced by Dave Perkins)
        Return to Paradise - 1989
           (produced by Mark Heard, Randy is wearing Tonio K's boots)
        Until We Have Wings - 1990
           (one side with 7 live tracks, including "Turning 30" and a
            12-minute "Shut De Do";
            the other side with 7 new studio tracks)
        Wonderama - 1992
           (produced by Terry Taylor)

  Daniel Amos
        Daniel Amos (cd)
        Shotgun Angel (cd)
        Horrendous Disc (out-of-print)
        Alarma! (cd)
        Live Bootleg '82 (cd)
        Doppelganger (cd)
        Vox Humana (cd)
         The Revelation:  narrative by Pastor Chuck Smith of Calvary
             Chapel with music from side 2 of Daniel Amos' Shotgun Angel album.
        Fearful Symmetry (cd)
        Darn Floor, Big Bite (cd)
        (see also: Swirling Eddies, Terry Scott Taylor)
        Kalhoun (cd)
        Dr. Edward Daniel Taylor - The Miracle Faith Telethon of Love (cd)
                                  (best of/gag/remixes)
        No sense of history/Shirley, goodness and misery (double CD)
          (has the following DA tracks:
             Like Lazarus
             Stones of Venice
             So Certain
             Little Things
             Off My Mind
             Fairy Tale
             Only One
             Laissez-Faire
           Also included are tracks by former DA member Rob Watson, the 77s
           and Steve Scott.)

  Swirling Eddies
        Let's Spin (cd)
        Outdoor Elvis (cd)

  Terry Scott Taylor
        Knowledge and Innocence (out-of-print)
        A Briefing For The Ascent (out-of-print)



   The Ark Music Series --
     Instrumental
       _Similitudes_ * Jeff Johnson
       _This Mystery I Pose_ * Jeff Johnson/Sandy Simpson
       _Why Should the Heart Not Dance?_ * Jeff Johnson
       _Born of Water_ * Jeff Johnson/David Friesen/Dave Hagelganz

     Vocal
       _Pilgrimage_ * Jeff Johnson
       _Fallen Splendor_ * Jeff Johnson
       _Icons_ * Jeff Johnson
       _Shadow Play_ * Jeff Johnson
       _The Face of the Deep_ * Jeff Johnson
       _The Awakening_ * Jeff Johnson/Sandy Simpson
       _Through the Door_ * Jeff Johnson/Sandy Simpson

    To receive a free Ark Music brochure and be included on their 
    mailing list write:

    Ark Records
    Box 230073
    Tigard, OR  97223



) Wedding Songs
        This list is posted monthly, usually the first Monday of each month by
        ee2g@andrew.cmu.edu


) Industrial
        I have changed my mind on this section again, I have severly condensed
        the comments of clopton5107@iscsvax.uni.edu.  If you want more information
        than that given here, email him and/or tll6551@zeus.tamu.edu.

                  "Is there any Christian industrial music?"

        Here is a list.  Not all of these bands fit everybody's definition of
        industrial, but most of it is at least of interest to most fans of
        industrial music.

                Mortal
                Deitiphobia
                Jyradelix
                Under Midnight
                Circle of Dust
                Blackhouse*
                Mental Destruction*
                Global Wave System
                Gadget/ Mark Planquet*
        
        *These bands have music for sale, but it is not as easy to get as
        the first three.  These bands have either indi releases, or demos.
        Mail me for more data.  The first three bands have fully distributed
        albums that can be gotten in Christian bookstores.  Circle of Dust may
        not be on the shelfs yet, but is is on REX Records, and is coming, and
        will be HUGE!

        A good purchase for Christian's who like techno and or industrial music
        is the SLAVA Music sampler avialable on Blonde Vinyl records called
        "Voice of the People."



) "Is Christian Rock an oxymoron?" 
   One possible response that should be considered:
        "only people can be Christians"

   We will not attempt to answer this question here, but instead refer
   your questioning to other (more-complete) treatments of the subject:

        Steve Lawson            _Rock Reconsidered_
        Francis Schaeffer       _Art and the Bible_
        Frankie Schaeffer       _Addicted to Mediocrity_

) Artist FAQ
        This section is meant to house all of the silly little questions
        that seem to get asked about specific artist:

        Q: What's Steve Taylor up to?
        A: He's in a band called Chagall Guevara on the secular label MCA.

        Q: Who are the people in Chagall Guevara?
        A: Steve Taylor, Lynn (Arthur) Nichols, Dave Perkins,
           Mike Mead, Wade Jaynes

        Q: What's King's X mean?
        A: Like all good Rock & Roll, it has multiple meanings, but
        it seems that for the members of the band it has no intended
        meaning.

        In Vol. 19, Issue 94 of the Christian magazine 'Cornerstone', two of the 
        band menbers were interviewed by Chris Ramsey, Dave Canfield, and Brian
        Grover.  Doug Pinnick, lead vocalist and bass player, and Ty Tabor, lead
        guitarist, had this to say when asked "What does the name King's X mean?

        Doug: Actually, I wanted a name that didn't mean anything, a name that
        you can't pinpoint.  And we thought it didn't mean anything when we
        started, but when we moved to Texas we found out that king's X is a
        safety . . . you know, in the game of tag.

        Also we found out that in medieval times in England there was a practice
        where a messenger would go to another kingdom to give a message to the
        king.  And if the king receiving the message didn't like the message, he
        would kill the messenger . . . unless he had the mark of the king.  It
        was called the king's X.

        Ty:  The X simply translated a message from one king to the other king.
        It said, "Please spare my messenger; it's not his fault if the message
        is not what you want to hear."

        Q: Is Amy Grant possessed?
        A: Not to the best of our knowledge.  If your opinion is that
        she is going after filthy lucre, pray for her.  If you think what
        she is doing is great, support her (and pray for her, too.)

        Q: Whatever happened to Leslie Phillips?
        A: She is recording on the secular label Virgin under the name
        Sam Phillips.

        Q: Did Leslie (Sam) Phillips backslide?
        A: Depends on your point of view I guess.  If you can believe
        what she has to say of herself, no.

        Q: Did Petra write "God Gave Rock and Roll to You?"  
        A: No, Russ Ballard of the band Argent wrote the song in 1973.  Petra
        covered it (for the first time) in 1976 on their "Come and Join Us"
        album and Kiss covered it in the eighties.

        Q: Are the members of Kiss Christians?
        A: Give me a break.  When people use the word 'God' they can mean all
        kinds of things, including but not limited to: themselves, some other
        deity besides the Judeo-Christian acknowledged one, women, money, etc.

        It is not probable, to the best of my understanding of the bible, for
        someone to boast of their continuing multiple-hundreds of illicit sexual
        encounters (as one of the members of KISS does) and be an actual
        Christian.

        Q: Did Petra write the song for "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure?"
        A: see above.

        Q: Whats up with Mark Heard?
        A: Mark had a mild heart-attack after he left the stage at
           Cornerstone 92 (July 4th weekend).

           He went to the hospital and they checked him out, everything was ok.

           Then 6 days later, he went into full cardiac-arrest and was in a
           coma in a hospital in Springfield Illinois until Aug 16th when he
           finally passed away at the age of 40.

           10/92 CCM sez:
           "Heard is survived by his wife, Janet, and their 4 year-old
            daughter, Rebecca, who are currently strapped with medical bills
            totalling over $300,000.  Those wishing to assist the family in
            retiring that debt can make contributions to the:
                      Heard Family Fund
                  c/o New Sound
                      P.O. Box 197
                      Merrimac, MA 01860

        Q: Does Phil Keaggy have all of his fingers?
         
        A: Nope, he is missing the middle finger on his right hand.
           He lost it when he was 4 years old when a water pump fell on it.

        Q: What's all the fuss about Mike Warnke?
        A: Vol 21, issue 98 (7/92) of Cornerstone (the publication loosely
           affiliated with JPUSA) published a story detailing the lack of a
           factual basis for Mike Warnke's pre-conversion claims, including
           those mentioned in his book "The Satan Seller".

           Copies of the original, full-color magazine with photo illustrations
           may be obtained by sending $3.00 to: CORNERSTONE, 939 W. Wilson Ave.,
           Suite 202-C, Chicago, IL  60640.  _Cornerstone_ is a member of the
           Evangelical Press Association and the Association of Investigative
           Reporters and Editors.  The authors may be contacted at the
           address listed above.

           Electronic mail with questions or comments may be sent to Eric Pement,
           senior editor, at the JPUSA BBS (8:7000/43), (312) 878-6030, or via
           UUCP mail at "chi.il.us!jpusa1!jpusa2!eric".

           Then a newspaper article detailed the fact that his ministry has
           had its tax-exempt status revoked by the IRS.

           Word has since suspended sales of his products, until the IRS
           is finished with their investigation.

           The files WARNKE1.ZIP (article) and WARNKE2.ZIP (Mike's response)
           can be downloaded from the JPUSA bbs:
                      +1-312-878-6030 9600 bps V.32/HST.

        Q: What has Warnke's response been?
        A: Well, the only thing he can do to clear himself of the charge
           of being a "consumate liar" is to produce an affidavit by someone
           beside himself who knew him during that time.  The only affidavit's
           that he has produced are by people who have known him since.

           November 9 1992 issue of Christianity Today has excerpts from an
           interview (by an independent syndicated journalist) with Warnke on
           the subject.

        Q: Is Sandi Patti getting a divorce?  Why?
        A: Yep.  The REAL reason may not be known. The "official" reason from
           Sandi herself (or her press manager, I don't know which) is that she 
           and her husband, who is also her manager, had different goals for
           her career. He wanted her to continue a high number of performances
           and she wanted to stay home with her children more.
           Pray for them.

        Q: What are the relations (if any) of christian musical person's
           with the last name Huff?
        A: Dann and Dave Huff of the band Giant are *not* members of David and
           the Giants.  Ronn Huff, the hired-gun arranger of classical
           strings on most CCM albums, is their father.  Dann and Dave were
           also two of the original members of the band White Heart.

           David Huff of the band David and the Giants is Kellye Huff's father.

        Q: Real life monikers of the (swirling) Eddies?
        A: Source: Harvest Rock Syndicate, Volume 4, Issue 1.

            Camarillo Eddy  - Terry Scott Taylor
            Gene Pool       - Greg Flesch
            Berger Roy Al   - Tim Chandler
            Hort Elvision   - David Raven
            Spot            - Jerry Chamberlain
            Arthur Phardi   - Rob Watson
            Prickly Disco   - Gene Eugene