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From: michael@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael MacFarland)
Subject: Comdex -- Chicago, April 6
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:36:00 GMT

I was too busy working today to spend much time seeing the sights at
COMDEX.  I will try to post a more detailed description tomorrow night.

IBM has two large areas devoted to OS/2 2.0.  The first is near the
entrance to the exhibit area.  It has two "mini-theaters."  Several
hundred people can see a show at a time.  After the shows everyone gets an
OS/2 2.0 mouse pad and a "I want OS/2" button.  (I am a expert on this, I
handed a bunch of buttons and mouse pads out when I was not working in the
second booth.)  People seem to be enjoying the shows.  I won't spoil the
surprise by telling you more about the shows. 

IBM has multimedia, development support, CUA 91 controls, ESDTOOLS, DCE,
Media Desktop, Core OS/2 Environment, OS/2 Networking Interoperability, IBM
LAN Server, OS/2 publications "pedestals" (display areas).  Also featured
are a number of ISVs (Independent Software Vendors) SAS, Borland (C++,
Objectvision, Describe, ZSoft, Vienna Software, Citrix Systems, Intelligent
Environments, Cawthon Software Group, Gpf, Hilgraeve Inc, Enfin, IMARA
Research, Enfin, Spinnaker Software, WordPerfect Corp, Lotus, Novell, Micro
Focus, Fortis, Easel.  I am probably forgetting several.  I will try to
check out what each is showing and post tommorrow.

They also have a system called "Info to go."  Several touch screen
applications allow attendees to pick the literature they specifically want
printed out.  The information they requested is then printed.  Each station
has its own laser printer.

The above is all in the first booth area.

The second booth impressed me the most.  IBM has over 50 PS/2s running OS/2
2.0 in a test drive environment.  Any one can sit down at any of the
stations play with it.  A number of IBMers are available to answer
questions.  I have been very impressed with the people IBM has supplied
from Boca and Austin.  If you have technical questions that you have been
unable to answer, send them to me and I will try to get them answered.
Better yet post them to the net.  IBM also has a dozen or so clones all running
OS/2 2.0 Lan Services, Extended Services.

I spoke with Gene Barlow and he indicated he would be in touch with the people
who sent me information about their user groups soon after Comdex.  He has
been very busy.

IBM is giving away several thousand copies of the GA code.  If the spotters
see someone wearing one of the buttons mention above or carrying an OS/2 bag
they get a coupon that they can redeem (at the show) IBM info desk for a
shrink-wrapped copy.  

The attendees seem very impressed by OS/2.
-- 
mam
michael@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: More money wasted (Was: Summary ... from SLC, UT)
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:37:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.172148.5068@hubcap.clemson.edu> grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Percy) writes:
>Speaking of NWR, I'm the only person in this shop who is taking the OS/2
>plunge.  Our LAN administrator is devoted to Windoze, and I don't see
>being able to get requestor for os/2 here.  Anyone got any ideas?  I
>tried running ipx and netx in a windows box, and get as far as
>recognizing our servers, but I cannot login (login dies horribly).

That might change when people start drifting in and asking, "Oh,
what's that?"  And the LAN administrator suddenly gets a few phone
calls.  :-)

The NetWare stuff needs to be run from a "real" version of DOS booted
into a VDM.  From there you can run Win-OS/2, I believe, although I
haven't actually tried it.

However, you'll still want to run NetWare Requester for OS/2.  Much
better approach.  It's out.

And I'm amazed no one has caught on to what I think was the biggest
headline coming out of Comdex: NetWare 3.2 (that's SERVER) alpha code
was demonstrated running under OS/2 2.0.  No more absolute requirement
to dedicate a server to NetWare (although I suppose you'd still want
to).  It also means you can have client and server running the same
operating system, meaning fewer headaches for the administrator.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mmccolli@ess.harris.com (Mike McCollister)
Subject: OS/2 on 386SX 16MHz?
Reply-To: mmccolli@ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris (Government Aerospace Systems)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:39:34 GMT

I know that IBM's requirement for OS/2 is a 386SX w/ 4 Megs RAM.  This is the
setup that I have right now.  How realistic is IBM's requirements?  I would like
to try OS/2 but I don't want to waste my time just to find that I don't have enough
memory.

I would like more memory, but my mother board is maxed out to 4 Megs.  I need to
purchase a memory card for about $100 (with 0K installed). Ugh.

Mike McCollister


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: backman@vax  (Larry Backman)
Subject: Re: POP Mail clients for OS/2 - PM ?
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:11:33

In article <Gary.Woodman.320@anu.edu.au> Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman) writes:

 >> POPmail won't be available for OS/2 until Borland releases Turbo Pascal and 
 >> Object Vision for OS/2... and maybe not even then. You'll have to talk to 
 >> the people at the University of Minnesota who plan strategies for POPmail.

 >> BTW, I've heard that IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 includes both a mail client and a 
 >> news client as "sample apps", though I haven't seen the package myself. It's 
 >> certainly competitively priced.



PCTCP for OS/2 has been shipping with Pop2, Pop3, Pcmail, and NNTP clients
for over a year now.


Larry Backman
FTP Software

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Benefits of OS/2?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 23:02:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Within the limits of what represents improvement that you quite rightly
desire, what OS/2 offers is robustness.  You will only have to boot
between power outages.  You will also gradually but surely enter the
world of multitasking until you are an addict.

If the tentative performance numbers we are seeing here extrapolate as
expected you will have another reason.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jasonc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Campbell)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 GA - Impressions, Suggestions, Info
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 03:09:26 GMT

In article <8APR199218360653@zeus.tamu.edu> rfs0838@zeus.tamu.edu (SCHAFFTER, RODNEY FRANK, JR) writes:
>Is the Boot Manager partition HPFS or FAT? If it is FAT, will PC Tools
>fix any boot sector damage caused by viruses, etc?
>
>Rod Schaffter                                 	

You could always just reinstall it, either from OS/2 if it boots...

Or from your install diskettes:

Boot from install disk, swapping disk 1 (and maybe 2) when requested.

As soon as possible, hit escape, find fdisk.exe (on disk 2, I think) and 
run it.

Delete the boot manager partition, and create it again.

Reselect your timeout and default partition (to boot) settings, and
everything should be fixed!  Reboot!

Jason.

-- 
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"Let us not go gently into the endless winter night..." -- Rush
From: brent@cco.caltech.edu (Brent R. Eubanks)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: CONFIRM: Animation is slow under OS/2?
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:55:27 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena


I posted a couple of days ago asking about the speed at which graphics
are displayed under OS/2 2.0.  I am concerned because I want to go to
OS/2 but I use alot of flight simulations and don't want their
performance to suffer.  I got the following message in response:



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To: brent@cco.caltech.edu
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Can OS/2 do fast graphics in a DOS window?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Cc: 
Status: OR

You'd probably want to run the flight simulaters in a DOS full screen
session.  16 colors does work, but is a little slower.  If the program
is 256 colors, say goodbye to animation since OS/2 has to dither the 256
colors to 16 colors (slow).  All of your programs continue to run if you
run the game in the DOS full screen session (you can have multiple full
screen sessions).  It helps to set DOS games to no background execution
so they pause/stop stealing cycles when you switch away from them

John



---------------

This concerns me alot since it suggests that I can't play any
high-performance simulators (eg: Red Baron, Falcon 3.0, etc) under
OS/2 2.0.  Could someone please confirm or (hopefully) deny the truth
of this situation.

Thanks alot.




-- 
Brent Eubanks                "The meek shall inherit the Earth --
brent@cco.caltech.edu         The rest of us will go to the stars." -- R.H.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Scott K. Hutton <shutton@strawberry.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: i don't like it!!
Reply-To: ian@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: Indiana University, University Computing Services
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 07:48:37 -0500

I think  the  beauty of  the WPS is that you can use it as  much or as
little  as you want.  I  typically  fire  up an  OS/2 Full Screen upon
startup and then do most of my work from  there.   So long as  I don't
fire up any  DOS  graphics applications, the  switch between  the Full
Screen and WPS is as fast as my monitor can adjust.  I use the WPS to:

* Start  Windows applications and DOS applications which I have set to
  start up in a Window

* When I want to do some  serious file organization that would  become
  tedious from the command line

If you take my approach,  get familiar with the  syntax of  DETACH and
START.  Life will become much more pleasant.  I can now do things from
the command line as quickly as I could on a Unix box.  Maybe faster.

 _________________________________   ________________________________
|Scott K. Hutton                  \ /       Support Systems, Helpdesk| 
|shutton@ucs.indiana.edu (Unix)    |    University Computing Services|
|shutton@iuis.bitnet     (MVS/XA) / \ Indiana University, Bloomington|
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and Norton
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:39:39 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Apr13.154741.9212@fcom.cc.utah.edu> aefros@cc.utah.edu writes:
>
>Hi, all you OS/2 gurus!
>
>I have a question. Will OS/2 DOS emulator be able to run Norton Commander 
>and/or Norton Utilities? I really depend on Norton Commander and cannot
>afford to loose it. Also, is Mr.Norton thinking about porting his wonderful
>products to OS/2? 

Some of it.  I suspect that Commander should work fine, although it
may be easier in the long run to set up WPS to perform most of those
functions. 

As for Norton Utilities, I suspect that all of the utilities not
related to disk-recovery should work fine.  The disk recovery tools
will probably only work on floppies.  Programs such as BE and NCD
don't do anything "funny" with the system, so they shouldn't have any
problems.  

As a general rule, if it works on a networked drive, it should work on
an OS/2 DOS box.  Mostly because networks impose similar file-system
restrictions that OS/2 imposes on DOS.



-- 
David Charlap                   Q:"Where do these stairs go?"
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu          A:"They go up"
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From: mlord@bmers63.bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse and OS/2 2.0 GA
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:43:17 GMT
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, Canada

In article <57250005@acf3.NYU.EDU> chenjs@acf3.NYU.EDU (Jiansheng Chen,1141 Meyer,8-7667,) writes:
>
>I installed the OS/2 2.0 GA on a noname 386SX machine with 8MB and
>the Logitech serial mouse.  But the mouse didn't work.  I tried the
>following options:
>
>	1) Logitech mouse; 
>	2) Serial pointing device;
>	3) In-port pointing device;
>
>but none of them worked.

You probably have an older model Logitech Mouse (C9?) like mine.
It acts like a Mouse Systems PCMOUSE on powerup, rather than a Microsoft mouse.
The newer ones (last couple of years) default to Microsoft mode on powerup.

To use it, install OS/2 as if you had a "Serial pointing Device", and then
use keystrokes to invoke the editor on CONFIG.SYS.  Find the MOUSE.SYS line
and replace it with the following two lines:

	DEVICE=PCLOGIC.SYS SERIAL=COM1
	DEVICE=MOUSE.SYS TYPE=PCLOGIC$

Shutdown and reboot.. your mouse should be fine.

To simplify the process, you could borrow a MS-compatible mouse for the 
installation process, and switch mice back again after editing CONFIG.SYS.
That is what I did, since I don't know the keystrokes for causing a SHUTDOWN.
From: nagamati@caldera.usc.edu (Romklau Nagamati)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Paradise OS/2 2.0 Drivers
Date: 16 Apr 1992 18:12:35 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: caldera.usc.edu

In article <11462@mindlink.bc.ca> Changhao_Boh@mindlink.bc.ca (Changhao Boh) writes:
>
>I think you would do your friend a good favour if you tell him that by refusing
>to issue a OS2 2.0 driver is going to hurt clientele.  All my video cards since
>1987 was Paradise as I believed in their technology leadership, they used to be
>the technology leader.  But just yesterday, I switched to the ATI camp by
>buying a Vantage.  I was very enthusiatic about the new Paradise 90C-somethin
>accelerator board.  But when I heard about Western Digital ignoring OS2, I said
>enough is enough, I bought the Vantage card.
>
>Good HEalth.
>
>Changhao

I've talked to the people ath W.D. they said that currently there's no policy
on 2.0 drivers for the Paradise family.... but if there's sufficient customer
request, they will do it.... I forgot to ask how many customer requests are
considered sufficient...

Until then you can call them at (714)932-5000 as ask them to put your name
on the list of customer requesting  2.0 driver... Let's say we flood them
with the request, huh? I've already asked everyone in the office to call
them...!!!

If this doesn't work, I will probably wait a few month and buy a new SVGA
card.... and you can be sure that it won't be from WD/Paradise....

Ron Nagamati
nagamati@usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: prs@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Phillip R. Scarr)
Subject: Re: Trident... The saga continues...
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:01:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.162849.12199@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.235102.11190@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> prs@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Phillip R. Scarr) writes:
>>I think the problem is one of modes and not drivers.  He is asking why
>>he can't run his standard vga apps in a window on an svga desktop.  I
>>don't think OS/2 supports the kind of mode translation required to adapt
>>a game which is 640x480 to a desktop which is 800x600.  If it did, then
>>I would REALLY be blown away...
>
>Prepare to be blown away.  If you're using a real OS/2 2.0 driver, it
>does.
>
>The exception, of course, is trying to run a program which uses 256
>colors on a 16 color desktop.  OS/2 2.0 makes a valliant effort to
>dither the colors and run the program, but the results aren't always
>aesthetically appealing.
>-- 
>Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
>sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
>Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
>Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.

Wow, I am blown away.   So this should work with the Trident drivers
running 800x600x16, right?  Wow.

	-Phil
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: COM ports under 2.0
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:14:18 GMT


I'm asking this for a friend who's thinking about getting OS/2 2.0.

He has a serial mouse, and two modems (I presume COM1-COM3).  However,
he's set the interrupts on all three so they are different.  He reports
mouse problems under Windows and was wondering if the same thing would
happen under OS/2.  I wasn't even sure if 2.0 supported COM3, but the
stuff about different interrupts has got me stumped.
-- 
John H. Kim                 | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever 
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From: goldman@mbcl.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Some questions about OS/2......
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:23:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.124606.12656@njitgw.njit.edu>, dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
> In article <JEFF.92Apr15182804@fang.clearpoint.com> jeff@fang.clearpoint.com writes:
>>
>>Does OS/2 support the concept of soft links (like BSD)?
> 
> Not under HPFS or FAT.  I don't think there's anything inherent in the
> system to prohibit it, though.  Someone may eventually write an IFS
> which allows them.
Actually, I think os/2 2.0 does.  As near as I can determine (and from
what I remember of the os/2 WPS guide that was posted to the net some time
ago), SHADOWS are indeed just like soft links.  And they have the same
disadvantage (?feature?) that if you delete the original file, the shadows
point to nowhere useful.  Hard links - which I'd prefer - it doesn't have.
(I think I read the CUA 91 calls them ?mirrors?)

		Adrian
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: nagel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Kurt Nagel)
Subject: Bet Upgrade -> It Came!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:03:29 GMT

All,

	My upgrade form for upgrade from beta came today.  Pre-signed all I
had to do was add my own Sig and mail it out!
From: linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 My experience/minor problems
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:16:38 GMT
Organization: NCSU CATT Prog

In article <1992Apr9.152625.28104@cs.rose-hulman.edu> swartzjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeff H. Swartz) writes:
>
>Well I was one of the lucky ones at the COMDEX show to win a free copy of  
>OS2 2.0 and I installed last night.  The installation was relatively easy,  
>but I think IBM should have posted more information on the screen about  
>what was going on (SMALL DETAIL).  I got it up and running but I have one  
>problem.  My printer will not work.  It initializes itself when I turn the  
>computer on, but when I try to print from OS2 it says YOUR PRINTER IS NOT  
>ON, or another error.  I have booted on a DOS disk and the printer works  
>fine.  The printer is set up on LPT1. 
>
>	System Configuration
>		483 -33 8 megs of ram
>		130 meg IDE hardrive
>		Soundblaster Card
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
OS/2 uses IRQ7 (the default for the Soundblaster) for printing.  All you need
to do is change it to a free IRQ, and you should be in business.

John W. Linville



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: brooke@cco.caltech.edu (Brooke Paul Anderson)
Subject: Eggheads see the light
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:56:51 GMT

I called a couple of Egghead Discount Software stores near
me, and both of them knew what OS/2 v2.0 was and said that
they would be getting it.  They didn't know exactly when
(can't blame them for that -- I doubt anyone knows).  This
is an improvement over the responses related in earlier
messages on the net.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jim@tct.com (Jim Kunzman)
Subject: IBM marketing
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:54:45 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

I was watching a show about computers on PBS the other night.  It
traced the short history of IBM's transition from PCAM (Punched Card
Accounting Machines) to computers when IBM developed the Model 650.
Interestingly, IBM was sweating bullets because Remington-Rand was the
first to market by selling three UNIVACS, one to the census department
before IBM even started developing the Model 650.

I won't go into all of the details, but IBM beat Remington-Rand
despite being late to market *and* with a technologically inferior
product (UNIVAC supported digital tape, IBM only supported punch
cards).  The reason given by the author that IBM won was that they had
a world-wide sales force second to none.

OK, IBM now you have a technologically superior product given by a
super set of developers.  Please don't turn into the Remington- Rand
of the 90s.  Crank out the product.  Fill the channel.  Get your sales
force motivated.  Learn what it takes to market product in the 90s!

What led me to this tirade?  I tried to get pricing/availability today
for OS/2 development tools.  What a nightmare!  Everywhere I turned
within IBM, no one had the answers.  I called my local IBM office.
They referred me to a local dealer.  I finally got some pricing.  Part
one of the puzzle solved.  Now how about availability?  Well, it's the
same problem everyone else is experiencing with obtaining OS/2.  The
product is released, but not available!

This is 1992 IBM.  Customers are no longer willing to wait 2-4 weeks
for a product.  As Lee Iacoca says, "Lead, follow, or get out of the
way."  IBM sales and marketing needs to adopt this philosophy soon or
they will not only lose new markets, but also their existing, loyal
customer base.

-- 
Jim Kunzman at Teltronics/TCT     <jim@tct.uucp>, <uunet!pdn!tct!jim>
-----
OS/2 is dead!  Long live OS/2!