From: martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Heroes and Villains
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:35:57 GMT
Expires: 1 Mar 93 00:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp., Hopkinton Mass.

Humans always view themselves as heroes in their own personal dramas
and are often willing to sacrifice themselves for causes they consider
noble.

"Dulce et decorum est mori pro patria sua."

Personally, I would say:

"Dulcius et decorius est cum alter moriatur pro causa mea,"

as do the leaderships of most movements which expect sacrifices from
their followers.

Anyway the correlation of individual nobility and nobility of the
cause for which humans are willing to die is practically non-existent.

People have been willing to die heroically for Nazism, Fascism, Indian
Centralist Imperialism, Communism and all the various mindlessly
stupid forms of nationalism or of religionism.  The martyrs to the
causes have been with no obvious pattern everything from very fine
people to total scumbags.  Kurt Gerstein whose career in the SS is
described in Der Stellvertreter by Rolf Hochhuth joined the Nazis from
a sincere to desire to improve the human condition by joining a
progressive movement (as Nazism was often viewed by German youth) and
later tried to persuade the Vatican to protest against extermination
of Jews.

A lot of Jews have been willing stupidly to sacrifice themselves for
evil causes like Marxism.  Lev Kopelev in "To Be Preserved Forever"
details the crimes against humanity which he committed heroically on
behalf of the Soviets.

Arguing about the quality of the supporters of various causes is
pointless relative to actually solving disputes.

The British and French created the real problem by incorporating
Middle Eastern and N. African lands in the European system of European
liberal secular nationalism, international law and international
mandates without creating the local social, cultural and political
conditions where the European system would have made any sense.

Fundamentally, Arab and Israeli people are victims of some bad policy
decisions made by Europeans during the 19th and early 20th century.
Turning the Arab-Isreali dispute into a morality drama where Israeli
people represent absolute evil and where the resistance represents the
purest and truest heroism only guarantees the impossibility of finding
a solution beneficial to everyone.

Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami

P.S.

   From: cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah)
   Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
   Subject: Name of Palestinian Deportees (part i)

   Here are some of the deportee names who were called "animals" and
   "garbage":

   1.  Dr. Abdel Aziz Al-Rantisee
       A medical doctor and a famous Palestinian figure.

   2.  Dr. Mahmood Zahar
       A medical doctor and a president of the medical circle in
       the Islamic university at Gaza.

   3.  Bassam Jaraar
       A lecturer at the Teacher College at Ramallah.

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Obviously these people are heroes in the opinion of Hamaza H. Salah. 
Here is a similar list of heroes.

Dedication (from Mein Kampf)

ON NOVEMBER 9, 1923, at 12.30 in  the afternoon, in fromt of the
Feldherrnhalle as well as in the courtyard of the former War Ministry,
the following men fell, with loyal faith in the resurrection of their
people:

ALFARTH, FELIX, businessman, b. July 5, 1901
BAURIEDL, ANDREAS, hatter, b. May 4, 1879
CASELL, THEODOR, bank cler, b. August 8, 1900
EHRLICH, WILHELM, bank clerk, b. August 8, 1900
FAUST, MARTIN, bank clerk, b. January 27, 1901
HECHENBERGER, ANTON, locksmith, b. September 28, 1902
KOERNER, OSKAR, businessman, b. July 26, 1897
KUHN, KARL, headwaiter, b. July 26, 1897
LAFORCE, KARL, student of engineering, b. October 28, 1904
NEUBAUER, KURT, valet, b. March 27, 1899
PAPE, CLAUS VON, businessman, b. August 16, 1904
PFORDTEN, THEODOR VON DER, County Court Councillor, b. May 14, 1873
RICKMERS, JOHANN, retired Cavalary Captain, b. May 7, 1881
SCHEUBNER-RICHTER, MAX ERWIN VON, Doctor of Engineering, b. January 9,
	1884
STRANSKY, LORENZ, RITTER VON, engineer, b. March 14, 1889
WOLF, WILHELM, businessman, b. October 19, 1898

So-called national authorities denied these dead heroes a common
grave.

Therefore I dedicate to them, for common memory, the first volume of
this work.  As its blood witnesses, may they shine forever, a glowing
example to the followers of our movement.

Adolf Hitler

LANDSBERG AM LECH
FORTRESS pRISON
October 16, 1924


-- 
Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami

The article represents noone's opinions other than the author's.