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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:55:38 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      big league plagiarism
Comments: To: All fellow wordslers <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>

The following half-page ad appeared on page 88 of the 6/15/92 issue of
Publishers Weekly.

                            NOTICE

   _The Crawling Dark_ (1991) by Dawn Pauline Dunn and Susan Hartzell,
writing as "Pauline Dunn," has been withdrawn from distribution by the
authors because of extensive similarities to the novel _Phantoms_ (1983) by
Dean R. Koontz.  The chapter-by-chapter plot of _The Crawling Dark_ is
materially that of _Phantoms_, and the characters of both books are
substantially similar.  Although the line-by-line prose of _The Crawling
Dark_ is for the most part different from that of _Phantoms_, some
passages are identical and numerous other passages in the former book
are paraphrasings of material in the latter.

   _Demonic Color_ (1990), by "Pauline Dunn," has also been withdrawn from
distribution because of less extensive but nevertheless recognizable
similarities to _Phantoms_.

   _The Crawling Dark_ and _Demonic Color_ were published by Zebra
Books, which was unaware of these books' similarities to _Phantoms_
until Mr. Koontz and his publisher, G.P. Putnam's Sons, called them to
Zebra's attention.


                  --------------------------------


Plagiarism?  Legal action?  Embarrassment?  Never getting published again?

Hmmmmm....when one thinks of the chance of getting caught.....with
a zillion romances, and half a zillion horror  books....makes me wonder
how often it happens and we just don't hear about it.  To say nothing about
it happening in the "happy groves of Macadam/Academe/Macadamia Nuts"

dan

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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:22:04 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I feel so CHEAP
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>Isn't the /who command fairly reliable?  I speak with very little knowledge,
>btw, having spent almost no time on IRC -- and having to admit that I don't

Actually, the way he was abusing the present progressive, I thought it was
Tushar making another of his self-referential parodies. Oh, well, he wasn't a
very fun net.flirt anyway.

-abh
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:30:51 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of UGA...
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> >the upcoming downage.
>      ----------------
> Isn't that a beautiful phrase :-)

Reminds me of finding Jeff Kell's office at UTC.  The person I first asked
directions of told me to "go into that building up on the hill, go all the
way up to the top and then all the way down into the bowels of the
building." Inside the building I was still lost, so I asked a group of
students.  They told me to "go up to the 4th floor and then all the way
down again."  I got to the 4th floor and found that I had to take the
elevator down to the bottom.  Although I never quite figured out the
big scene of the geography of that building, I did finally find Jeff.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:56:58 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: A Query
              30 Jul 1992 17:36:50 EDT from <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

Judith,
  There is an E-mail group called URANTIAL, and it's run by Michael
Million.
  I've found the book at the local public library and at WaldenBooks.
  To get more information about the group, ask the members of BELIEF-L
at brownvm.

Love,
Evelyn
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:33:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject: Re: quick answer needed...help
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     Is it too late for this?...

     Praeteritio.
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:03:00 CDT
From:         Bill Sjostrom <TA0WXS1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Crosspost about women

>>and you're not telling us where to find this person?
>>Elaine, flame-thrower all warmed up and ready to go ...
>
>Chill, mama...I posted this because now it's gonna get back to the person who
>wrote it that a whole list is laughing at him...
>Ha!
>-abh

A year or so ago, the student newspaper printed this big two page ad
put in by some group that claimed that Hitler had really only killed
14 Jews, and that was all an accident because he forget to tell the
janitor to put up the wet floor sign, and they slipped on the stairs
or something like that.  Anyway, all sorts of people on campus were
outraged.  I wasn't offended because I didn't read it.  I read the
headline and thought, well, the kids who used to leave this stuff on
the bus in Chicago have grown up and now are buying newspaper ads.
I ignore them.  Nut cases are best left alone.
                                Bill Sjostrom
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:14:54 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      RTFM--not!!!
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>      Et tu, Karen.  And me with a cat to support.

If it makes you feel better, Carol, we have one WP5.1 manual for
120 people--and were never given manuals for our computers or printers.
(I managed to steal one from the trash for my printer, and it has
saved my life on more than one occasion.  And then I could go on about
the Japanese manuals for EW+....)

> 8005415096 is programmed into my phone
                                                                        at
It's programmed into my brain!

> p.s. 10 points to anyone who can identify that number without looking
> any reference material of any type, virtual or physical.

No fair! I was laughing too hard and Anne got in first.

Karen
who is in love w/ many of the WP voices and only asks questions that
aren't in the manual.:)
From: gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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Subject: RE: Gleanings (54
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:25:43 GMT
Reply-To: Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
Organization: Current Science Tel: +44 71 323 0323 Fax: +44 71 580 1938
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On Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:57:35 EDT, "Mama Primate" <primate@brownvm.brown.edu>
 wrote:
> Filling in here...The way my family used the word, "Mashugeh"
> is the adjective: "You're mashugeh!" But "What a Mashugena!"
> or maybe "a Mashugener"...I'm not sure how I heard it. Maybe
> both ways. But yes, "Crazy" is what it means.

Quite interesting the differences in spelling between US & UK Yiddish.
Almost *all* the Yiddishisms I've seen here have been spelt differently.
Meshugge, that's what I say!

G
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: aggravation
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:53:07 GMT

Florida is very pretty.  There are many nice things about Florida.  Some
things are not so nice, though.

I went to the local public library today, and found that I live in a 
third world county.  "We have forty thousand books" proudly announced
the young woman behind the desk, as explanation why she didn't recognize
my description of the Union List of Serials... This branch is only one
floor of a building, maybe a dozen or so rows of bookshelves -- she 
probably meant 40K books in the whole Palm Beach County system, all
six or seven branches, but in all that, there are no college catalogs
(not even on fiche), no LC catalog, no NUCMC (I didn't *really* expect 
NUCMC), barely a Reader's Guide to Periodicals... 5 count them 5 adult 
books on Thomas Edison (*I* have  more than that, and I don't have them 
all)... only one lonely book on Faraday, and that's a biography for 
juveniles.... There isn't even a book that has pictures or descriptions
of more than a few of the *many many* kinds of palm trees you can see 
around here.  Standard & Poors, they've got -- takes up about a quarter
of the Reference Dept shelf space.

I got too depressed to look any further.  Why do I feel 
like I just wandered into a performance of The Chocolate-Cream Soldier 
(? title?) -- "We're a cultured family.  WE have a Library." (pointing 
to shelf in the corner.) [approximate dialog -- I think the play is Shaw.  
Arms and The Man, maybe?].  

I'm almost afraid to go look in the Palm Beach Junior College library...
when I visited its "North Campus" in the spring, I picked up a student
newsletter, and the big headline was a fervent plea to have the library 
open more than half a day per schoolday.

AAAARgh!  And Ken thinks Shawt Hilz is an intellectual wasteland?  How do
these folks educate their children??!!  

I better go take a relaxing dip in my pool, and forget I have a mind.

--bayla


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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:00:22 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Car

Short note to ggs - I deleted your reply accidently, but wrong car ...not
the Capri, it's the Miata convertible she wants ...I may even get her one .
in about 5 years from now ...the first production year should be cheap
by then ...like me :-).   GOT to get to work .. haven't for almost a month!

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:14:44 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Old Mail
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I'm finally going back through piles of mail that I read hurriedly when
I was zipping from one telnet spot to another during my wanderings but
that I didn't delete because I wanted to reread.  I just reread Giggles'
post-clambake thoughts.  I loved them -- all of them -- including his
memories of Providence from previous life there.

> 35) speeding away on I-95 thinking how fast it went and trying to

Yes.

>     Bill or Don or Jim or John or <???> and wishing we all had
>     another chance at making the virtual real

Yes.

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:00:51 -0500
Reply-To:     Nancy Harwood <harwood@tenet.edu>
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Kosher ( was Sea World )
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On Wed, 29 Jul 1992, Adam Hartfield wrote:
> >Why would anybody put butter on a roast beef sandwich???
> >   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
`>
> I think it's a crazed-Yankee kind of thing.  My uncle, the Vermont
> farmer, likes butter on his ham and roast beef sandwiches.  Everyone
> else I know up there likes their sandwiches the same way.

I've always thought it was definitely a regional thing.  My husband,
shuddering at the memory of his first trip to Europe (by sea, courtesy of
Uncle Sam), firmly believes that the reason he threw up all the way was
*not* because he was seasick, but because the Yankee Red Cross ladies
served the troops beef and ham sandwiches *with butter* just before the
ship sailed.
ndh
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:55:35 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: birth order
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I'm the second and last child to be born of
one firstborn (of three) and one lastborn (of 9 living children)

but my sister, who is 6 years older than i, is the least
dependable person around. she's flighty, and overly emotional
and hypersensitive. She lets people take advantage of her
all the time.  I"m the tough one, and the one who has taken
the "older sister" role over since i was about 15. Katherine
relinquished it willingly, and now she calls me her
'older sister' when introducing me to her friends...which
isn't that farfetched, since she looks a lot younger than
i do, and she dresses like she's still in jr.high.

but, she can make one mean marguarita.

jenna who finally has her voice back.
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:40:10 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Quote of the day.
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>                                                      I knew it wasn't
>Tushar when I got a 'fuck off' private-message when I suggested he/she
>confirm his/her identity by naming the Greek muses (something I'm sure
>Tushar could do in his sleep...)

Still on the John Fowles thread, Toal? Strange persistence indeed. Let
me state here, just to stop you from gleefully rubbing your hands at the
success of a so-called insult you perpetrated, that I like John Fowles.

It's actually The Magus which is totally after my own heart. It might be
said that the magus is an ideal that my ambition dictates me to approach.

Ha, that ought to make you think!

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:20:43 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dessert
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>From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@AKRONVM.BITNET>
>
>On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:47:27 EDT jcs said:
>>
>
>We have real bakeries, too:  the ITT Continental Bakery (Wonder Bread
>and Hostess snack cakes) and the Nickles Bakery (Nickles Bread and
>snack cakes). ;)

Commercial Bakeries like that are not the same. I'm talking LaSalle
Bakery, and Pastiche, over in federal hill, you know?

>Actually, the best bakery around town makes only muffins (and what
>muffins!)

Muffins only huh? I know quite a few people who would be
oh so interested in this place. Do they do mail order?



 Jenna
>Evelyn
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:02:24 CDT
From:         Price Caldwell <tpc1@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Five Reasons (was tushar, boy..)
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Hmmmm, beautiful letter, Carol.

--Price
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:22:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: My Mac can do these...
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> 	Actually, Anne, all the PC users are simply jealous of us having
> so much FUN with our machines whilst they struggle along with the
> prehistoric DOS interface, or even worse, Windows, which is, after all,
> a DOS kluge.
>
> :-)
> Czarina
> (Who has the gif of Nico 'n me up as my background screen.)

rita, you sweet little Neopolitan gyro, I am having a *lot* of fun
right now with my DESKTOP PC....   It is seductive, vivacious,
shockingly handsome, and sweet as maple syrup on Mississippi grits.
What more could one ask for?
--ggs
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:33:27 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: also NOT aposiopesis
              24 Jul 1992 15:52:09 MST from <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>

On Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:52:09 MST Dan Lester said:
>because in aposiopesis is a sudden breaking off....and NOT saying it...
>
>as in
>
> He's such an awful person ---  but I'd better not tell it....
>
>dan

Could it be "praeteritio" <to pass over>, a Ciceronian device?
But I can't find it in my WTNID.....         --colonel brad
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:05:26 EDT
From:         Don Thornton <DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Itsy Bitsy Dictionary (was which unabridged
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.   BOMC is still offering this as a come-on.  I think that it is now in
.you are serial about this.  I have seen at least three copies in recent
.months in my favourite hangouts (come to Bart's Books - the world's
.Peace,
.Elwood P.
Yes, I'm serial about this. Thanks I'll check some magazines for ads
and blow ins/fall outs; and some second hand book stores too!
 don (wish me luck gentle "Elwood P. Dowd")
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:29:20 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Kosher ( was Sea World
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>I find this fascinating.  I have Jewish friends who vary all the way
>from strictly kosher (if the appropriate rabbi didn't pronounce on
>it, no go), to one who will eat from the same dish in a Chinese
>restaurant that contains shrimp, as long as he doesn't actually
>eat any of the shrimp, to "beef and cheese at the same meal are OK
>as long as they're not mixed in a cheeseburger", to anything goes
>(but doesn't like the *taste* of butter on a roast beef sandwich).

*BUTTER* on a roast beef sandwich???? UGH! Mayonaise goes on
a roast beef sandwich (or Russian dressing). (I'm an oddball who
doesn't like mustard.)

>Much as I like to poke gentle fun at my friends for these quirks,
>I think all this is a microcosm of religion in general.
I think it's pure-d nonsense, but that doesn't make it *taste*
ok.

>Tony H.
>(Who still thinks McDonald's cheeseburgers should be parve)
Oh, they are. Cardboard is always parve!

love, judith
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:17:20 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      truly dead afternoon
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Now *this* is what I call a dead afternoon! I leave the house for more than
three hours to do a story.  When I get home, eager to read all the dozens
of Words-L messages which will have
piled up during my absence, I find only 23 messages...and only 2 from
Words-L.  What a disappointment!
ndh (alone and lonely)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:22:05 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Speech codes
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              21 Jul 1992 18:19:00 CDT from <TA0WXS1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:19:00 CDT Bill Sjostrom said:
>explanation for censorship on campus.  Our conclusion was that the provost,
>now president of the Univ. of North Dakota, is an idiot, but then we
>already knew that.  By the way, Teddy Kennedy was greeted very politely at

Hey, remind me, on or off list, of the name of this gem.  SOMEONE, and I
think the Pres, from the U of ND is a semifinalist for Pres here at BSU.
AND our cheap pennypinching goddam board who won't give us a raise is
flying ALL ELEVEN in for interviews....which will be an hour each at a
marathon board session.  Bet they learn a LOT about them in that time, huh?

geeeezzzzzz

dan
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:38:12 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Whales
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> Not that I ever wondered, but it never occurred to me that whale meat was
> *red* meat.  Interesting.
> Doris

Yes.  It took me a long time to figure out what that red meat was in
the fish section of my local grocery.

Karen
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 08:19:57 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: No Picture of Giggles (was Re: Eating Whales)
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> obscure Mississippi address, so I thought about it a *long* time and
> tried to remember who lives in M and then I thought.... oh yeah!
> Now I know.

Price Caldwell?  Aimee Lee?  Jimi Strickland?  Frank Peters?  Bernard
Chien Perro?

Did anybody else notice that Giggles was #3 (which is really #2) on the
latest usenet BWP stats?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:10:41 +0200
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Eating Whales
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              21 Jul 92 16:03:00 -0700. <9207212305.AA04635@sics.se>

   >Ambergris.

  A funny thing about this: according to webster it's a matter of speculation
to associate ambergris with sperm whales:

am-ber-gris \'am-ber-,gris, -,gre^-(s)\ n
[ME ambregris, fr. MF ambre gris, fr. ambre + gris gray -- more
     at GRIZZLE]
(15c)
:a waxy substance found floating in or on the shores of tropical waters,
     believed to originate in the intestines of the sperm whale,
     and used in perfumery as a fixative
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:56:33 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Re: WHTMIT

On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:01:00 PST Lobstrosities Unite said:

>Good rule of thumb is to take 20-25% off the asking price and start from there.
>And never pay more than 10% below the asking price.  (There are exceptions to
>this rule, such as cars that dealers can't keep on the lot due to popularity or
>whatever, or a car that's been sitting on the lot for 8 months because no one
>wants it because the color is wrong, but those are fairly rare).

Two books on this I recommend:  _Don't Get Taken Every Time_, by Remar
Sutton.  Written by a former car salesman.  Contains endless details
on how car dealers really work - how they make their money off you,
and how to deal with them.  And _Lemon Aid_, published annually by
the Automobile Protection Association (APA).

Tony H.
(Who is not really a car nut at all despite all these car postings)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:44:21 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Five Reasons (was tushar, boy..)
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              21 Jul 1992 18:17:09 CDT from <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>

hey, blow the five reasons out your butts, guys and gals....

if you think i'm gonna read 200+ lines of this crap,you got another think
coming....

the way this thread gets progressively longer messages, it looks like
a mail loop....

gee, has Natalie checked to see if it IS a mail loop?  Once I see its
the fifteenth quote of the same old crap....

i give up

dan
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