HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Toys'R'Us and Lynx letter writing...
Date: 30 Dec 1992 19:04:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, blk@mitre.org (Brian L. Kahn) says:

>In article <1hqu7bINNh05@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>
>   I think it is about time that we started a letter campaign to
>   the executives at Toys'R'Us and tell them that there is a demand for
>   the Lynx and game cards at their stores.
>
>Writing letters might be very effective, but the above is just silly.

SILLY or NOT, Toys'R'Us informed me that it would do good to write
the company if we are not happy.

She says that they do not know if their customers aren't happy unless
they are told.
Makes sense?

>No offense meant, I'm silly sometimes too.  Letters can only indicate
>what the demand *might* be.  The executives at T-backwardsR-U know
>exactly what the actual demand is, because they track every item sold.
>They know the demand down to decimal points in every city.  If you're
>going to write, go direct to Atari and let them know how much their
>screwups are costing them.

Let me ask you this...  If you walk into Kay-Bee toy stores and you
ask the manager if they sell the Lynx and they say, "No", do you think
that the manager writes down that you were interested for demand
purposes?

Are you kidding?  They don't care.

How about this.  If Toys'R'Us is out of the Lynx for two weeks.
Do you think they realize how many people have decided to go elsewhere
because they didn't have it in stock?

Or better yet, if they know EXACTLY how many systems are sold,
why don't they reorder when they only have three or four left?
Instead of waiting until the last one is gone?


No, I think the only company that has a realization of demand is
Walmart.  They seem to be on the ball.

What you say is kind of funny.  We all THINK that these companies
know the demand for products, but I doubt they do.

I remember going to several toy stores that did not carry the Lynx.
I asked the manager why not and he or she says that a lot of people
have been asking for it and they don't really know why they don't
carry it.

Stupid, isn't it?
>

Len

P.S. Kya|?P.S. Everyone SOLD-OUT of the Lynx during the Batman Returns promotion
and nobody had CLOSE to enough.  Did they know demand?  nope...

>
>

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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Date: 29 Dec 1992 04:54:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, maddie@crash.cts.com (Tom Schenck) says:

>The Guardians: Storm Over Doria suffered from a lack of attention. The original
>design had a good basic structure, but after it was started, the team got
>swamped with projects, and it fell by the wayside.
>
>Tom Schenck
>(Formerly of Knight Technologies, and proud NOT to be at Park Place Productions)
>
>


THAT is unfortunate.  MANY MANY MANY people were waiting for this title.

I talked with AT LEAST twenty people from this newsgroup that
was looking forward to Guardians.

I guess I've talked to about fifty people total that wanted to buy
this title.

I REALLY believe that it would have been at the top of the charts.

WOW.  This is pretty terrible news.

If you'd ask anyone WHAT game they were waiting for more than any,
they would have said, "Guardians: Storm Over Doria".

What are the chances of someone getting their hands on the code for
this game and finishing it up?


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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Message about campaign.
Date: 31 Dec 1992 17:03:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu






The following message will be the Toys'R'Us and Atari Letter Writing Campaign.

This file needs to be distributed as much as possible to almost
every computer network and BBS that you can think of.

If this file has about the same amount of distribution as the Lynx,
we're in trouble!

So those of you that frequently visit GEnie, Delphi, and other online
services, please post it there.

Also, if you belong to a BBS that has Lynx base, please upload this
file there and leave a message about this campaign.

Thank you.

Len (aa399@cleveland.freenet.edu)

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From: areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: I didn't predict the end of the Lynx!
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:54:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fordham University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
X-Posted-From: mary.fordham.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


1) I never said that the disappearance of the Lynx in my area meant it
would be gone from stores everywhere.

2) I never said the Lynx sucks.

3) I never claimed that the Lynx was anything less than a great
machine.

I did want to point out that I have a machine that I have no games to
play on it. That is all.

BTW I'm not a "squawker" because I point something out.  This group is
alt.games.lynx, take the good with the bad. Not everything posted to
this has to be a glowing praise of the Lynx.  

I love the Machine, I hate not being able to "play with a toy" I payed
$130 for.
- Darin

_____________________________________________________________________________
  Areid@Mary.Fordham.Edu  ||  Dreid@Nyx.Cs.Du.Edu  ||  reid@dsm.fordham.edu
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  Bitnet:areid@fordmulc
From: ange@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Andy Norman)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:08:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx

I live in the UK, and I was sad to see that none of the big shops in Bristol
had the Lynx in.  A couple of shops had older Lynx games going for about 30%
off.  The Nintendo displays in each shop were very well stocked, even better
than the Sega displays.

However, I know that I thoroughly enjoy playing with my pair of Lynxen, so I'm
staying put.

					-- ange -- <><

					ange@hplb.hpl.hp.com

Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: ISDF400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (Stephen Dea Fultz)
Subject: Need hints for Dracula
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:04:03 EST

 
I need hint for Dracula, I think I need the lamp or something to pry a door.
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: tazzzzz@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Kevin Dangoor)
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:49:29 GMT

I agree with Rich completely. I don't own quite ALL of the games for the Lynx,
but I do own quite a few. If Atari went out of business, oh well! So I save
some money on future games. But I will still get enjoyment out of the carts
that I own. I have no idea how many Lynxes have been sold, but if it's a large
enough number perhaps some other company will buy out Atari's Lynx line (which
would certainly be a great step forward for all of us! Even if a troubled
company like IBM took it over, we'd be in far better shape! Not that IBM i
interested in making games, mind you. :)

The Lynx has the most enjoyable catalog of games for a hand-held system.
I doubt that will change.

...Kev

-- 
Kevin (Tazzzzz) Dangoor          \ Locomotive (adj): powered by insanity.
University of Michigan           / 
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA         \ This ultraDeluxe powerpack sig has 50% less
internet: tazzzzz@eecs.umich.edu / saturated sponge than the competing brands!
From: schenker@suntan.ec.usf.edu (Adam Schenker  , GE)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Help with Bill & Ted (Lynx)
Date: 1 Jan 1993 01:05:17 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I'm very near the end of this game and for the life of me, can't figure
out how to get to the next group of notes. I'll give you my code
and spoiler protection, JIC:



6AFB.E003.IN6E.6RKM
 
It's the part over the 'lava pit' where you have to push blocks to get
to the next section. The next group of notes is, I believe, straight
up. Thanks for your help!
 
Adam Schenker                  Department of Computer Science & Engineering
schenker@suntan.ec.usf.edu     University of South Florida
                               College of Engineering
From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx - I got mine!!!!!
Date: 29 Dec 92 13:19:58 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <C016DG.2KJ6@austin.ibm.com>, bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com ()
writes:
>
>
>Anyway, how do I combat this problem... I can't play my Lynx when I want to 
>because my wife insists on playing the Surfing Game from California Games?
> 

Buy another Lynx!  =)

>Has anyone else had this problem?  

Yeah, when I first got my Lynx my friends always wanted to play Surfing.  They
obviously didn't know the funnest game on Cal Games is BMX! :)  (IMHO of
course)  

Also, if you buy another Lynx you can play 2 player California Games and push
her off the wave :)

Bobby Tribble  |8')
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
btribble@terapin.com
From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:48:43 GMT
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
NNTP-Posting-Host: bambam.u.washington.edu

I was just at the Toys-R-Us at South Center (outside of Seattle) yesterday.
They had no Lyxes for sale or on display.  However, their display case was
less than half full.  It's possible that they sold their display and haven't
received a new shipment.  They did have one of those D-cell battery packs
for the Lynx in the case.  They had very few Lynx cartridges available, but
the display spaces for the cartridges seemed to be there.  I mean, they had
all those covers hanging, just none of those tags you buy them with.

It was a bit depressing to see virtually no Lynx stuff there.

-- 
Il Hwan Oh                              | "You live and learn.
Computer Facilities Manager             |   At any rate, you live."
University of Washington, Tacoma        |            -- Douglas Adams
iho@cac.washington.edu                  | 
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: msmaa@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mark A. Anderson)
Subject: LYNX Casino for trade...
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 18:18:00 GMT

 LYNX Casino for trade.  I am specifically looking for

ISHIDO: The Way of Stones

but will look at other offers.

Mark


Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper)
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: 24 Dec 92 22:24:44 PST

In article <1h6cnkINN5m3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah292@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Krynak) writes:
}
}======================================
}  * THE GUARDIANS: STORMS OVER DORIA 
}                     Press Release
}
}======================================
}
}this press release was posted OVER A YEAR AGO!
}anybody know when this game and other rpg's will be out?
}
}               -Tom
}--------
} 
	A significant number of the Telegames team, including the CEO, now
work for us here at Park Place Productions.  _Guardians_, according to one
of Telegames' artists (who currently works under myself), was cancelled
when the team got a look at _Eye of the Beholder_.  So _Guardians_ won't
be released, but _Eye of_ will.

						 _m d c_
			  Milo D. Cooper  '92   | 1992  |  mdc@crash.cts.com
						`-------'
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From: paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Good games?
Date: 31 Dec 92 23:28:43 GMT
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland


Hello everybody! I just got myself a Lynx, and I'd like to know what
are good games for it? I'd like to know about at least one game that
is a) utterly fun to play by comlynx with two players b) utterly
addictive to play alone, eg. in a car etc.

It would also be nice if these games would have nice sound, and a good
playability. Thanks for the help!

--
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| Rasmus Paetau (paetau@mits.mdata.fi) | I still believe in Falcon030 |
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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: ISDF400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (Stephen Dea Fultz)
Subject: Re: Dracula the Undead woes...
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 19:23:34 EST

In article <Dec28.044041.36032@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
hillyard@CS.ColoState.EDU (kevin paul hillyard) writes:
 
>herrings), and the puzzles were so obvious that a 10-year old could have
>figured them out... now, I'm not one for adventure games that cause you to pull
   I am not a 10-year old so i need help, I found a 13-year old but he was
no help. I need hints on where the lamp is, or how to get to the castle.
From: jco@spchp12.BBN.COM (John C. Orthoefer)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Dracula the Undead woes...
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:06:50
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., 10 Molton Street, Cambridge, MA
	02138
NNTP-Posting-Host: spchp12.bbn.com
In-reply-to: hillyard@CS.ColoState.EDU's message of Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:40:41 GMT


Well if you hate the game so much take it back.  I don't know where
you bought the game, but if you buy them at babbages (about the only
place to find all the lynx games.)  Take it back they take back any
thing you aren't totaly happy about.  They don't care if it's open or
used or what ever.

I'm nothing more than a statisfied customer at babbages.  But I just
don't buy games anyplace but there, mainly because they will take back
games with poor game play.

jco
--
John Orthoefer			"Generaly speaking, things have gone about as 
jco@bbn.com 			far as they can possibly go when things have
Bolt, Beranek And Newman Inc.   got about as bad as they reasonably get. "
                                -- Player "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead"

Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: ric@netcom.com (Richard A. Bretschneider)
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:16:18 GMT

mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper) writes:

>	A significant number of the Telegames team, including the CEO, now
>work for us here at Park Place Productions.  _Guardians_, according to one
>of Telegames' artists (who currently works under myself), was cancelled
>when the team got a look at _Eye of the Beholder_.  So _Guardians_ won't
>be released, but _Eye of_ will.

Please excuse my prior long-winded misinterpretation of your message.
I didn't realize that Eye and Guardians were being made by two different
companies.  This then is simply a case of the "Eye Team" viewing a 
competitive product and deciding that they couldn't compete with 
them.  Too bad really given the really few games available for the 
Lynx.  

(Lynx Robots take note: Please don't flame me with the actual number of 
 games that there are, it really doesn't compare with any other system
 out there.)

-- 
                 
               | The face of a child can say it all, 
Ric            | especially the mouth part of the face.
Bretschneider  |
AKA            | If God dwells inside us, like some people say, I sure
ric@netcom.com | hope he likes enchiladas, because that's what he's getting.
From: jco@spchp12.BBN.COM (John C. Orthoefer)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Joust
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:58:47
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., 10 Molton Street, Cambridge, MA
	02138
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spchp12.bbn.com


I've not seen Joust yet here in boston.  And I looked the day before
xmas.  At any rate, I must find this game tomorrow, I will find it.
:-)

Well my real question is did the dup the bug that let you get realy
realy good?

OLD TIME JOUST Spoiler ahead.

In old joust you could sit right of center on the center ledge, with
one red dude traped by the fire troll.  And the unbeatable?!?
pteradactal would fly up and impale himself on your spear.  

I must know did they include this bug?  I've always said that I would
include this as a switch if I ever coded a joust.  

Because yes it's a cheat but it's one that took some skill.  since 1)
you had to get to a level wher eyou could do it and 2) you had to have
very fine paw control to stay in place, each impact moved you a little
bit.

jco
--
John Orthoefer			"Generaly speaking, things have gone about as 
jco@bbn.com 			far as they can possibly go when things have
Bolt, Beranek And Newman Inc.   got about as bad as they reasonably get. "
                                -- Player "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead"
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Reviews of New Games?
From: omf@pyros.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler)
Date: 1 JAN 93 16:00:39    
Reply-To: omf@pyros.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  

Am I just not getting all the messages for this group at my site, or
have people not been reviewing the new games?  I went to Babbages
the other day (it has the most complete Lynx library - not
the best prices or return policy - in this area I guess the can
afford to do as they please) and saw several games for which I haven't
seen reviews:

Joust
Switchblade II
Dirty Larry
(a couple others - should have written them down)

I bought Joust - wonderful translation.  A round of applause for
Shadowsoft.

Oscar Fowler
Computing from sunny Tucson, Arizona
omf@hacks.arizona.edu

Xref: sparky alt.games.lynx:1344 rec.games.video:25577
From: vaughn@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Subject: Re: (Lynx)Is Baseball Hero any good?
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:31:56 GMT
Followup-To: alt.games.lynx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I persoannly was glad when Atari finally came out with some sports games
because they are not as repetive as the shoot-em-ups.  I was disappointed in
Football because it was too easy, and the rules of the game were not 
followed closely enuff (It lets you end with a tie!!!).  As for baseball,
I was very pleased.  It is not easy like some other baseball games, and there
is variety in the way you configure your team.  When I had the gameboy, the
two baseball games I had were way to easy and I always won in a big blowout.  
With the lynx, the fielding is important and there is more strategy to the
game.  Overall, I am pleased.
From: Jarett.Weintraub%bbs@jptcs.com (Jarett Weintraub)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Wanted
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:18:05 GMT
Reply-To: Jarett.Weintraub%bbs@jptcs.com (Jarett Weintraub)
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10a S/N 202921

Used Lynx wanted: Must be in good condition, w/ or w/o games. E-mail me at
the above address. Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: buxton@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (buxton)
Subject: Re: HELP : Shadow of the Beast
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:58:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.154649.16480@klaava.Helsinki.FI>  
mnykyri@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mikko S Nykyri) writes:
> In article <1992Dec20.105601.25805@ucc.su.OZ.AU>  
thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie) writes:
> >	Well I've just got this game, and have done alright so far but
> >I have a problem. After coming up through the well and going towards  
the
> >castle I come across these buzzing fly thingies. Where those Dragons
> >fly overhead and drop bombs. Anyway I lose masses of energy here  
because
> >all I can (seem to be able to) do is run through them. None of my  
tools,
> >well there's a key and a torch, seem to work. Help?
> >	Also does anyone know any practical uses for that jumping kick
> >you can do, or is it just a programmers whim?
> 
Spoiler for jump kick follows:






The jump kick is required to defeat the final 2-headed dragon, and so it  
is not some programmer's whim
Eric
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: About writing letters
Date: 31 Dec 1992 21:43:01 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



Someone wrote me suggesting that if everyone write their OWN letters,
we will be taken more seriously.

This seems like a good idea.  If you don't have any idea what to say,
take a look at the form letters to give you some ideas.

Only use the form letters if you absolutely have no time to write
letters yourself.

Thanks.

Len (aa399@cleveland.freenet.edu)


-- 
 
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: RWG@buc.edu.au (Rod Griffin)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Games for Sale
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 03:50:29 GMT
Organization: Ballarat University College
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.132.8.8

Gauntlet III Boxed and Instructions
Scrapyard Dog "     "     "   "
Xenophobe     "     "     "   "
Slimeworld    "     "     "   "
Paperboy      "     "     "   "
Roadblasters  Not boxed no instructions
Blue Lightning Not boxed no instructions

$25.00 for boxed $15.00 for others
Will swap

Rod Griffin                                "I hate Illinois Nazis"
Finance Section                             - Blues Brothers
Ballarat University College
Gear Ave
Mt Helen
Victoria 
Australia 3350

Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: jadams@eng.umd.edu (Josh Adams)
Subject: A Pad problem
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 19:48:00 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

My friend has the following problem with his Lynx II:

The joypad seems to be tweaking left every once in a while. It started off by
doing it really infrequently, and was only a problem in games where it was
important to stay facing right when you needed to be, but now in any game the 
character wanders rather quickly to the left of the screen. It used to only
happen after I'd been playing for 10 or 15 minutes, but now it starts up almost
immediately.  Once I took off the little rubber thing under the joypad that 
has the contacts in it for the buttons, and the problem stopped, but it could
have been coincidence. (It wasn't acting up that much back then.) 

Any suggestions would be greeted with much thanks and shoe-licking!
(Helpful suggestions, that is.)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: drew@verdix.com (Drew Johnson)
Subject: Repair Info
Organization: Verdix Corp
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:06:27 GMT

Sorry if this is in a FAQ, but I wonder if someone could give me some
information on how to get a Lynx repaired.  I am in the DC area.  I have
tried the cust service number repeatedly (408-745-2098) but it is always
busy.  I would like to get it fixed before Christmas (so my kid can play
the games he gets), but I realize it might be hard.  Also, can anybody give
me pointers on getting the back cover off?  I have tried a little, but I
did not want to force it for fear of breaking something permanently.  The
problem with the unit is that the B button is stuck in the 'on' position.
The buttons themselves are not stuck, but the mechanism is always on.
Anybody ever seen this?

Thanks in Advance

Drew Johnson
drew@verdix.com
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: hillyard@CS.ColoState.EDU (kevin paul hillyard)
Subject: Prophecy of the Shadow help....
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:00:49 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

	I know this message doesn't belong in this group, but here it goes
anyway...
	If anyone out there has played SSI's Prophecy of the Shadow, how do
we talk to Bracken, the High Gazer?  It says that "the gazer speaks to you,
but you can't understand his language..." I'd prefer a hint instead of an 
out-right answer, but any help at all would be greatly appreciated...

	Thanks in advance...
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video