HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:59:26 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep1.084427.27049@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:
>: One of the planned third-party 'peripherals' for the Falcon030's 
>: processor-direct slot is an external 'bus cage' (an external box
>: with several VMEbus and/or other-type bus slots), so it *WILL* be
>: able to handle more than a single peripheral card.
>
>But there's a slight problem:  The other third party "peripherals"
>being designed are FOR that "processor direct slot".  They won't work
>with the cage...  Which gives it even less of a base than the PDS will
>have.

Presumably, the 'bus cage' will also offer connectors for "PDS"-designed
peripherals.

Steve
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From: nverenin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Spumoni the Fat Wok   )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Black Apples
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:26:19 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <crystal.714977696@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>
>I have very low serial number on my Apple ][  (it's *sort of* a plus, but
>I'm not really sure.  It wasn't a Plus when we got it in 1979....
>(yeah, I'm old, too... :<)
>
>Crystal
>  ;>
>
>(I even played on a black Apple at the local Community college as late as
>1986!  It was an ordinary Apple...just the case was black....)

	I've got an *OLD* Apple II+--it was purchased in early 78,
I think. They made games for the Apple computers until '88, I
believe. Ten years is not too bad...which means that the Amiga 1000
still has until 1995!!

---nverenin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu


I think.
From: Chris_Millar@lppl.mi.org (Chris Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Distribution: world
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:23:54 EST
Organization: Les's Place BBS

Yes, it is true that an IBM emulation board exists for the 500 (several I
believe) as well as for the ST line - BUT, the PC board for the Falcon has
full bus access and can do real color VGA emulation, etc.  Also, the RAM
expansion bus carries the PDS signals as well - Jim Allen is supposedly
making a 1024x768 color res board to fit underneath.......


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Windows API for Amiga OS?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:31:36 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Aug31.034352.17503@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
> In article <1992Aug31.001139.13995@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:
> >>[Actually, I wonder how far MS Windows- and OS/2- compatible Application
> >>Program Interfaces could help in making it easier for developers to port to
> >>the Amiga.]
> >
> >For OS/2, I don't know.  But the Windows API?  Ugh...  Windows expects it's
> >apps to "cooperatively multitask" - not the Amiga way.  Any software doing
> >that on the Amiga would be a kludge, and an ugly one at that.
>
> The Windows API is okay.  Most applications don't need to even know
> that it is non-preemtive.  But it would be difficult to add a Windows API
> on top of the Amiga OS as many parts of Windows would be difficult to
> interface with the Amiga.
>

If you can run IBem in a window on the Amiga, you can run Windoze on an Amiga
screen, too.  All Windoze programs would just be part of a single Exec Task.
Not such a big deal, folks.  Anytime a windoze app calls a windows function,
just wedge in a Reschedule() call and it is multitasking friendly.  What's
the big deal?

> >David Meiklejohn                  | Internet : davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au
>
> --
> Colin Adams       Honours Student - James Cook University of North Queensland
>   "And if I seem a little strange, well that's because I am." - The Smiths

--
Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: A4000 Specs? Who knows.
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:47:29 GMT

In article <mykes.0dbb@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>
>It would have been nice if a USEFUL notepad application shipped with 2.0x.
>Every doc file for every PD program and even the readme's for commercial
>apps SHOULD be done in NotePad, IMO.  Food for thought.
>

	Why would one want to edit those files ? You have lost me. What you 
probably mean is that you wish there was something like a ... more ???
	Well there is one and that's what it's there for.
	If you realy need editors, how many more do you need ?
	ED, MicroEmacs, Edit !

>--
>Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
>Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
>Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
>1124 Fremont Ave.
>Los Altos, CA 94024
>
	George

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young)
Subject: Re: Industry News
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 21:37:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.183204.25177@nntp.uoregon.edu> ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
>
>GAME MAKER POSTS 2ND QUARTER LOSS
>(The Register-Guard, Eugene, OR, August 29, 1992, p. 7B)
>
>   SUNNYVALE, Calif. - Atari Corp. lost $39.7 million during the second
>quarter, largely because of charges stemming from a reorganization, the 
>computer and video game company said Friday.

You not telling REST OF THE STORY! Atari spending more for ads around     
the world and R&D delivering Falcon 030, Falcon 040 and Jaguar 32+32!

Big news is Lynx Batman game sold 2 MILLION in very short time and
30 MORE games like Lemmings, Eye of the Beholder, Shadow of Beast,
Steel Talons coming out soon and will sell many MILLIONS more!!

How many Amiga games sold 2 MILLION even in 6 YEARS??! Atari is 
software and hardware company so BILLION DOLLAR payoff will come
next year.
From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:11:39 GMT
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries

In article <la2ivvINNsnn@pollux.usc.edu> addison@pollux.usc.edu (Richard Addison) writes:
>In <mykes.0d3o@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>>Remember, though, all they need is a working 'C' compiler and a working OS
>>and all the stuff on the Fish disks would be easy to just recompile.  The
>>stuff that is worth it, anyhow.
>
>I'd prefer that the other operating systems be ported to the Amiga.

The problem there is that OS/2 2.0 and Windows aren't designed to be portable.
That's where Windows NT fits in - it used to be known as portable OS/2 at one
stage.  It already exists in beta form for both the R4000 and 386, so an Amiga
port of NT would be possible.  Then again, it wouldn't exactly fit on an A500.

 By your
>arguments, developers could just recompile their code to have an Amiga version.

Theoretically, yes.  The thing is, though, that what they'd have would be a
version for NT on the Amiga - not what I'd call an Amiga version.  After all,
you can get Unix for the Amiga right now.  It's supposedly quite easy to port
to.  Just look at all those SunOS applications that have been ported to Amiga
Unix (what was that smiley for tongue in cheek?).  Anyway, those applications
that DO exist for Amix - would you really call them Amiga versions?

>[Actually, I wonder how far MS Windows- and OS/2- compatible Application
>Program Interfaces could help in making it easier for developers to port to
>the Amiga.]

For OS/2, I don't know.  But the Windows API?  Ugh...  Windows expects it's
apps to "cooperatively multitask" - not the Amiga way.  Any software doing
that on the Amiga would be a kludge, and an ugly one at that.

>The Unix ports might not be so bad since they are designed for such
>portability, but I suspect you would still have to make some changes to
>the source code (like a #define or two) even in those cases.

Hmm...  When I wanted less for Unix here, I took an Amiga version and just
recompiled - dead easy.  No changes necessary, because the Amiga support had
all been added in #ifdef AMIGA sections.

Anyway, pretty much every Unix utility for the Amiga has already been ported to
DOS, and I hear that OS/2 ports of a lot of GNU stuff exist.

>Hmm.  Maybe my memory is a bit foggy, but I can't seem to recall the
>tail-that-wagged-the-dog application for the Commodore 64.  :-)

Well, for me it was Jumpman.  :-)


-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE)
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. AmigaOS
Organization: University of New South Wales
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:04:16 GMT

: Depends on your programming style.  I prefer a message passing
: aprroach to the multual exclusion problems you will run into, while
: the Amiga uses semaphores, hence my complaints with IPC.   It would
: be nice to have multicasting/broadcasting.

The amiga has adequate message passing facilities. If you want
to use multicasting/broadcasting, you could write these functions
yourself on top of the amiga's message passing facilities.
 
: 
: But most of my multithreading experience is on transputers, which 
: offer both approaches.
: 
: I also don't think the Amiga has very good process control for a system
: which was designed to be multitasking.   There isn't a large
: or capable enough set of system calls.  Sure, it's possible to do
: most things, but some simple things require more code than they
: would if they were in the OS.


Depends what you are referring to as process control. Starting up processes
is quite a simple matter. Signalling, stopping and starting process is
also quite easy. What tends to be difficult with the amiga's OS is getting
information out of very complex OS data structures. You often spend quite
a bit of time chasing pointers all over the place.


: 
: >Ty Sarna				           tsarna@endicor.com
: 
: -- 
: Colin Adams       Honours Student - James Cook University of North Queensland
:   "And if I seem a little strange, well that's because I am." - The Smiths 


Anyway, just an opinion :-)

Cheers

	Trevor Elboure
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: New Amigas _are_ coming
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:59:26 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Edinburgh University

Latest rumours from UK Amiga Shopper say that an '020 based Amiga is due
before Christmas at a 1000 pound price tag.  At the same time C= have
halved the price of the A3000 in Britain and cut 100 pounds from the
A600.  New Horizons have produced a word processor which supports the AA
chipset and KS 3.0.  In an interview with C='s UK head it was mentioned
that a new range of Amigas are going to be released over the following
18 months starting with 2200 or 2400 (name as yet undecided) at XMas.

Draw your own conclusions.

PS 1000 UK pounds for an 020 machine with a hard drive and a monitor
would be relatively cheap over here :-(

	Mark

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine
Keywords: Attack the idea, not the person
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:50:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.134729.7503@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:

>
>But Jim, that would take all of the fun out of it!  All of the Atari dudes
>who post here act like little kids on a pirate BBS, so why not treat them
>as such?  If you'll notice, the only people who pay them any attention at
>all are the ones who are flaming them, so if you don't like it, just ignore
>it.
  
Some of the information is interesting, but it's time consuming sorting 
the wheat from the chaff.  I'm not a techie but I'm learning a lot about 
operating systems and system architecture (I can even out-flame/info people 
from the Telecom Research Labs, although the stuff I pick up in various
.advocacy groups may not be 100% true.  A "in his own opinion disclaimer 
might be necessary".  I thought a bus was something that drove down the road 
until I started reading these newsgroups.

>This group is anything but serious and to take it as anything else
>is just plain silly.

I've been getting that impression.  I've only been using abUSENET for about 
three weeks and the amount of flaming that goes on is amazing!

>
>Is it worth starting a new group for a dead machine?

How about a "alt.jeff.young" or "is.jeff.young.a.pseudonym.misc" group?


Jim


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From: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Subject: New Horizons has done it now! (Re-post of message on c.s.a.apps)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Reply-To: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:49:29 GMT


The following is included in its enitirety. I didn't change a word.
So... what has anyone to say!?!? Kickstart 3.0?!? New Amiga Graphics Chips?!?
Does this mean that we're finally going to get *REAL* information????


START OF QUOTE ************************************************************
Article: 8668 of comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: mike@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Smithwick)
Subject: Re: IFF database of .advocacy folks
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:52:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.231605.20520@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>
>
>>>Would anyone be interested in uploading an IFF picture of themselves and
>>>possibly an IFF sound-byte?
>>
>>	I'd be interested if I had any access at all to a scanner or
>>digitizer.  But I don't.
>
>Yeah, that could be a problem.  Of course, most Amiga owners own a 
>paint program of some sort and could draw a self portrait.  :-)
>

Actually just take a JX-100 Scanner an plaster it on your face. Maybe do
both sides and join the images together in DPaint. ;-)

>Skip Sauls
>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
>

Mike (what the hell is a gleeeep?)


-- 
"There is no problem too big that can't be solved with high explosives"-Rush

Mike Smithwick - ames!zorch!mike
From: dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Multimedia platforms
Date: 30 Aug 92 06:17:11 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

In article <1992Aug29.064926.17545@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.053513.23237@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:

>>Of course, if you've got an Amiga, hypertext is becoming the standard
>>form of documentation through AmigaGuide.  Not that I'd imagine you
>>know what that is, most people don't -- yet.

>   This is one of the many problems with the Amiga: no consolidation.  On
>the Mac systems, there is one program that has hypermedia, multimedia, and
>full authoring-system capabilities in one package: HyperCard.  On the Amiga,
>you have to string together several different programs in a loose collections,
>using ARexx.  The worst thing about this is that it makes it very difficult
>to put together presentations that will run on just about any Amiga system.

>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu

	I agree with you 100%. For example, if I wanted to make a nice
animation on my Amiga, I would have to resort to at least ten different
programs instead of one similar to Hypercard on the much superior Mac systems.
For example, I would need DSS to digitize audio samples, and MED to record
them into a music module, plus Imagine to make nice 3d scenes and animations,
with DPaint IV to edit them, and SID to copy or delete related files, plus
the Art Department and MacroMaker (by Rich L'Hommedieu) to use ARexx and
do graphics conversions, with Edplayer to play the background music module
and AmigaVision to play the final animation. Wh a pain in the ass! I wish
I just had MULTIMEDIAMONGER, which would have all of these features in one
program, this way I don't have to ::gasp:: use more than one program on
a multitasking machines.

	Maybe we should cut out the middle man and incorporate all of the
necessary multimedia programs right into the Kickstart. Duh.


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From: peter@blade (Peter Korsten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Does the AmigaOS pre-emptively multitask?
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:52:37 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
: In article <1992Aug30.170606.1070@msus1.msus.edu>, lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (LaMonte Koop) writes:
: > [stuff deleted]
:
: Does all this mean that the AmigaOS does not have pre-emptive
: multitasking?  If a programmer can design his application to tie
: up the system, does this mean that the system is not strictly
: pre-emptive?

AmigaOS is pre-emptive, though programs may disable the task switching with a
Forbid()/Permit() pair. You must do a Forbid() before you start looking through
system lists, i.e. what tasks are running. After the corresponding Permit(),
a Reschudele() is done.

You can even disable interrupts , but just like disabling multitasking, this
is strongly discouraged.

Whether or not that means pre-emptiveness, I don't know. If all system lists
could be locked using semaphores, the Forbid()/Permit() calls wouldn't be
nescesary.

: |  Charles A. Thompson               |  thompson@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu         |
: |  University of Kansas              |  thompson@ukanvax.cc.ukans.edu        |
: |  _Avid_ SkiBum                     |  OS/2 2.0 is for YOU!!!               |

					Peter.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: A4000 Rumors...
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 03:16:37 GMT

In article <kkrebs.0146@amilink.UUCP> amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us (Ken Krebs) writes:
>Seriously though, I don't think it would be an IDE interface since Dave
>Haynie is always stating that IDE is inferior to SCSI.  

It is inferior, but it's cheaper.  On an Amiga it would at least
have DMA.  Also, in Dave's posts lately he hasn't been as critical 
of IDE as he has in the past... :-)

>It'd be a shame to
>plop an IDE on a super fast 32 bit machine.  It just doesn't seem logical.

If the AA chipset is expensive, C= will be trying to reduce prices of
other components. 

>If it's true, then it has to be because it's cheap.

Yep.

>*Ken Krebs* SkinnyPuppyLaTourBauhausBookOfLoveModernEnglishB52s |25Mhz/6Meg|

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: Tandy's Multimedia CD Player (VIS)
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:05:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.233537.6783@microsoft.com> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.060221.22814@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>>kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling) writes:
>>: Apparently it has no general expansion bus, btw.  Typical Tandy.
>>
>>Maybe they gave it a "processor direct slot".  ;)
>
>Not even that. A little bird told me it has NO expansion what so ever
>except for a PCMCIA slot. This machine is almost identical to a CDTV except
>it's intel and it has more colors at higher resolutions.

The "more colors at higher resolutions" part really bothers me.  I've 
actually had the chance to see CDTV units in Chicago and New York in
the last few months and was impressed by everything but the video.
Some of the HAM pictures looked pretty good, but not as sharp as the
ones I saw on a CD-I unit.  I'd sure like to hear that the CDTV Mark II
or whatever included the DCTV unit or even better the AA chipset...

>You cannot upgrade to a faster CPU without a voodo hardware hack.

Same for the CDTV.  If I could buy a CDTV with a cpu slot, a Zorro III
bus, an 030/882 or 040, 1-2M Chip RAM, 1-16M Fast RAM, a de-interlacer,
OS 2.04 or higher, and a 50-200M SCSI drive, I'd probably get one.  :-)

>/* IanK@Microsoft.com		*/
>/* I want my 32bit chip set	*/

Skip Sauls
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu





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From: ahansfor@wpi.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford)
Subject: Re: A4000 Rumors...
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:43:54 GMT

>>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:01:53 GMT, rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan) said:


rickan> If I remember correctly, it was acknowledged in an EE trade
rickan> publication that CBM had signed a licensing agreement with
rickan> AT&T to utilize one of their new DSPs. Of course, they were
rickan> also one of the first to license the Insite 20 MB Floptical
rickan> drive, which has yet to materialize.

Hey.  If my new 4000 has a DSP and a 20 Meg FLoptical all the better.
If I can afford one.

 -- Andrew Hansford
    ahansfor@wpi.wpi.edu
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