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From: kb7uv@panix.com (Andy Funk)
Subject: Re: Kenwood TM-741 vs ICOM IC-2410H?
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:17:18 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC


The question has to do with dualband rigs in hostile RF environments...

I have a TM-741A, and I live in New York City.  My rig has been modified
for wideband coverage, so a stock rig might not have the problems I
experience, but I'm definitely not pleased with the radio's intermod
performance.

On both VHF and UHF, but mainly on UHF, I have intermod, squeals,
crackles, etc.  AAARRRGGGHHH!

I used to have an Icom 901.  that radio had much better RF characteristics
(*much* less intermod, better sensitivity) but the contol panel was
extremely difficult to use -- especially when driving.

I suspect the Icom 2410 would be better, RF wise, and the design seems
fairly easy to use.  I'm considering trading in my Kenwood for another
Icom... 

73, Andy
-- 
    Andrew Funk, KB7UV                     Internet: kb7uv@panix.com
    ENG Editor/Microwave                     Packet: kb7uv@kb7uv.#nli.ny.usa
    WCBS-TV Channel 2 News                      BBS: 718-956-7133
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 18:11:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.055252.23627@ssc.com>, tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
in response to the following statement by someone else. (Not me)

> 
>>  I have a right to transmit on your repeaters input
>>  frequency if it is not in use.
> 
> Maybe.....maybe not.  Depends on local coordination.
> 
> Local coordination ideally should encourage a wide diversity of
> uses for spectrum.  If I have been coordinated exclusively on a
> link frequency, you don't have the right to squat there just because
> you don't hear me using it.
> 

That's not correct. All local co-ordination does is to keep someone else from
putting a control link on that frequency. The local co-ordinator has no 
authority from the FCC to grant you permanent exclusive use of that (or any
other) frequency, to the permanent exclusion of all other use. 

If you think that is true, then you need to re-read part 97. Nothing in part
97 grants any third party (co-ordinators) the authority to grant exclusive
use rights to a frequency.

Frequency co-ordinators provide for a more formalized "gentlemens agreement" 
between repeater owners/operators in the context of repeater operation.  The 
FCC has seen fit to recognize theese agreements as binding between repeater
owners/operators. The FCC has NOT made any statement which prevents other use
of these frequencies when they're not in use.


--------

   John Rice -  K9IJ         |  "Did I say that ?" I must have, but It was    
   rice@ttd.teradyne.com     |   MY opinion only, no one else's...Especially  
   (708)-940-9000 - (work)   |   Not my Employer's.... Licensed since 1959
   (708)-438-5065 - (bbs )   |   Ex: K8YZR, KH6GHC, WB9CSP, W9MMB, WA1TXV
From: steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 00:18:05 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Presoft Architects

laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde) writes:

> In article <BzxHor.F25@NeoSoft.com> jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese) writes:
> >
> >If you want a free repeater, put one on yourself.  Otherwise, help the guy 
> >who built the radio, scouted the site, and keeps the sucker working for you
> >to talk on.
> >
> 
> I talk to alot of people who _would_ if the pairs were not all gone already.
> I know many others who have put up repeaters because they _want_ to, and like
> the technical challenges. Hmmm..... they don't even ask for money, but 
> people give it to them because they have good systems. IMHO, private, costly
> systems are there for those who get some sort of fix knowing that "it's there
> if I wanted to use it," yet apparently never feel the need to actually do so.
> Kind of like a lollipop. What sucks is that the lollipops take up all the pai
> so that no more open 440 repeaters can be put up. Too bad, because I find 440
> has excellent propogation characteristics in the LA basin. It would not be so
> disgusting if the frequencies were actually in use, but they are not in LA.
> 
> -grl.
> -----

I heard that the 220-222 Mhz was deallocated from amateur use
(partially) due to non (low?) use.  Would it be wiser to roll those 440
pairs that are _mostly unused_ from private use back into available
so that others can allocate for OPEN use before the same thing happends in
440?


Signed, newcommer...


Steve
   
 Steve Kohlenberger, PreSoft Architects      Internet: steve@presoft.com
 Novell Professional Developer
 Specialists in NLM and Disk/Tape Driver development for NetWare 3.X/4.X
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From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: 430MHz band under threat!
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:53:43 GMT

Does this proposed change have any impact on HAMS in the United
States?
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
                        Happy Holidays to ALL!!!
From: Larry.Lund@p12.f97.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Larry Lund)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 430mhz band under th
Date: 27 Dec 92 00:00:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: therose.725469777.AA00000

Jim Reese wrote in a message to All:

 JR> From: jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese)
 JR> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

 JR> In article <n1317t@ofa123.fidonet.org>
 JR> Larry.Mc.Donald@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
>I can olny hit one open one from my house (the entire area 
>has about six) and there's only one simplex freq. The rest has all 
>been privatised by hams who wanted "private" systems or were looking 
>to make a buck off of the ham bands. Sure, there are plenty of 
>repeaters that I can use, for $15 a month.  

 JR> 'scuse me...but have you ever had to PAY for the equipment
 JR> involved in putting up a repeater?  I didn't think so...  If
 JR> you had, you wouldn't think $15 per month was such a
 JR> rip-off.

 JR> Repeaters are VERY expensive, even for the good scroungers. 
 JR> Someone has to pay for them...the logical choice is the
 JR> users.  You're lucky that at least six people have chosen to
 JR> put on open systems out of the goodness of their heart. 

 JR> -- 
 JR>      Jim Reese, WD5IYT            | "Real Texans never refer

Like someone else said in a previous message, it kinda defeats the purpose of
what HAM radio is all about. Personally, I wish all those involved in charging
fellow hams for using the repeater (excluding autopatches) would just get out
of the hobby. We don't need them! I talk on HF and I paid a lot for my HF gear
but I sure don't expect for someone to pay for me talking to them!!

Larry,
N7LBP @ W0RLI.or
From: kc6sss@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Kissing Cousin Six Sugar Sugar Sugar)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Weak signal VHF
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:44:39 GMT
Organization: The People's Number Four Cat Farm, Berkeley CA, USA

MROWEN%STLAWU.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Michael Owen W9IP) writes:

>In response to the query about 2m SSB/CW...

>You can probably find the answers to many weak-signal questions
>in the ARRL VHF Manual.  It has a whole chapter on "the other"
>VHF (ie non-FM repeater).

If you're refering to the "VHF Companion", please allow me to warn the
original poster not to waste his money on it.  Anyone who reads without
moving their lips can read the "There's more to VHF than FM" chapter in
about ten minutes -- faster if they've read the similar chapters in the
ARRL Operating Manual and the ARRL Handbook.

The best way to learn the procedures is to listen, listen, listen.  If
you don't know where to listen, look in the ARRL repeater directory or
a local source for the band-plan in your area.
From: blw7149@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brandon Lee White)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Comments on FT767GX, FT990, TX850SAT?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:55:55 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

I'm looking for my first HF rig.  While I can't spend as much as I'd like, 
I do want to get a rig that will last me a long time without buying a lot of
add on things.  So, I've been looking at the FT-767GX since it has a power
supply, antenna tuner, iambic keyer, etc.  Comments good and bad on this rig
would be greatly appreciated.  Also, would the extra few hundred dollars for
the FT-990 be worth it?  As far as I can tell, the main differences would be in
the area of direct digital synthesis, etc., which is something I could do
without (unless the advantages outweigh the extra cost).  The TS-850SAT would
also be more when a power supply is considered.

Am I on the right track, or would I be better off looking elsewhere?

Thanks a lot,

Brandon
KB5WDR


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: writing out -- --- .-. ... . in order to pass your exam
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 23:17:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.185454.19249@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu (Paul Flaherty) writes:
> In article <1992Dec22.144311.15690@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>When I took my exam before the FCC, I wrote down the complete alphabet,
>>numbers, and prosigns at the top of the copy sheet before the test began.
>>Then I wrote down the dots and dashes, double spaced on the paper and
>>translated above the symbols. They gave me a 100% score.
> 
> I'd say this is probably the killer argument.  If the FCC, in all of their
> testing malevolence, allowed copying dots and dashes, the VEs should not
> prohibit it out of hand.  Of course, you're depriving yourself the chance
> to learn something, but that's your own business.
> 
They never did that anywhere I took a test (Chicago, Honolulu and Tampa). The
examiner 'snached' the copy sheet immediately after the code stopped.

> As to Farnsworthing the tests, the Sunnyvale VEC does this as well.  They
> claim a higher pass rate when this is done, as opposed to "standard"
> keying.  The important thing here is to know what your local VE team uses,
> and then practice accordingly.

Probably depends on how the code was taught. If they run the classes and teach
using Farnsworth, they're probably right.


   John Rice -  K9IJ         |  "Did I say that ?" I must have, but It was    
   rice@ttd.teradyne.com     |   MY opinion only, no one else's...Especially  
   (708)-940-9000 - (work)   |   Not my Employer's.... Licensed since 1959
   (708)-438-5065 - (bbs )   |   Ex: K8YZR, KH6GHC, WB9CSP, W9MMB, WA1TXV
From: bill.nadzam@pcs.sj.ca.us (Bill Nadzam) 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MFJ Loop antenna? (was Re
Date: 24 Dec 92 10:40:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: PCS-BBS - San Jose, CA - 408-270-4085
Reply-To: bill.nadzam@pcs.sj.ca.us (Bill Nadzam) 

UBNewsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
UBFrom: uri@watson.ibm.com (Uri Blumenthal)
UBSubject: MFJ Loop antenna? (was Re: AEA Isoloop comments wanted)
UBMessage-ID: <1992Dec23.221354.37203@watson.ibm.com>
UBDate: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:13:54 GMT
UBReply-To: uri@watson.ibm.com
UB
UBIn article <1992Dec23.162738.7909@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>, acm139@ccs.no
UB|> .....................
UB|> I'd really appreciate any and all comments regarding the
UB|> AEA Isoloop antenna.  Is it worth the approximate $300?
UB
UBMFJ Loop Antenna looks like AEA IsoLoop, and costs $100 less.
UBAnybody cares to compare the two and comment on both?
UB
UBThanks, an' have a nice Holiday!
UB--

  The AEA ISOLOOP works very well. Had one in a Townhouse attic.
Made a great deal of contacts and I would buy another one if I
found myself in the same situation again.
---
 . EZ 1.37 . From A.R.S. K8WN _._. __._
From: brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Date: 28 Dec 92 05:27:04 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

If you have to pay for the site, $100/rack/month would be real cheap
here in SoCal.  Typically tower space ($50/antenna/month) and power
(~$20/month are extra.  If you've only got a few users, it's expensive!
	- Brian
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info,rec.answers,news.answers
From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Subject: Re: Alinco DJ580 DTMF/CTCSS HELP!!!
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 12:49:39 GMT

phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:


>    Can someone out there help me understand the DTMF and CTCSS and Tone Squelch
>    features on the new Alinco DJ580?
>    Do all radios (other brands) use the "group format" (group A, B, etc)?
>    Do other brands recieve the two-digit "coded message"? Only other DJ580s?
>    Also, what is the main advantage of Tone Squelch over DTMF, or vice-versa?
>    Can anyone explain the use of these features better for me?

>The main advantage of tone squelch over DTMF is that it's out-of-band:
>you don't have to listen to it (or have your receiver somehow mute it)
>every time somebody transmits with it.

>I don't know about brands other than Icom, but the DTMF paging in my
>IC-P4AT uses a "group format" with 3-digit code numbers.  It sends XXX
>* YYY where XXX is the station being sent to, YYY is the originatating
>station, and there is an asterisk separating these.

>Personally I wish there was a setting where the DTMF paging would just
>keep the receiver squelched til it heard the appropriate 3-digit code,
>then turn itself off.  That way someone wanting to page you would just
>dial your code to unsquelch your receiver, then call you and carry on
>a QSO in the usual way.  Afterwards, you would turn the DTMF squelch
>back on manually.

The Kenwood TM-741 uses the same scheme as both of these radios,
but it does have the option to simply un-mute the receiver when
it gets the tones as you described.  I prefer that, especially
when using a repeater.  The DJ-580 and the TM-741 will send
group codes, etc. back and forth just fine.  The "coded message"
seems to be unique to the Alinco -- it's another three digits
appended to the XXX*YYY sequence.  It's another 'star' (I think)
and then the two other two coded digits.  

By the way, in both of these radios, it is possible to use a
radio which doesn't support the feature, by keying in the
appropriate touchtone buttone, although you have to do so without
much delay between each digit.

73,
Dave

-- 
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.   Amateur Radio Callsign KZ1O
Project Leader, OCR products            kz1o@n0ary.#noca.ca.na
Internet: dbushong@wang.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pat@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU (Pat Flannery (714) 621-8061)
Subject: Re: Online Repeater Directory?
Reply-To: pat@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU
Organization: Pomona College
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 06:49:03 GMT

Personally,  I would be happy to provide any information that I could to benfit
this project.  I do travel on occasion and would love to be able to plot out
repeaters along my root.  


Pat Flannery (KC6TDR)


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 430mhz band under th
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:57:22 -0700

Jay Maynard wrote in a message to All:


 JM> There's a term for transmitting on a repeater's input
 JM> frequency, knowing that there's a repeater there with users
 JM> on it, and yet not intending to use the repeater - willful
 JM> interference. All you're accomplishing is interfering with
 JM> the legitimate users of the machine.
 JM> -- 

I know if I wanted to transmit on a particular frequency, and it was a
private/closed repeater that, that would not stop me. When I got my license
back in 87' there was nothing in the rules that I remember telling me I was
only allowed to tramsmit on certain frequencies between 440-450 Sorry charlie
I ain't buying it! 


Larry,
N7LBP @ W0RLI.or

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: biby@seas.gwu.edu (Rich Biby)
Subject: Re: Repeater Listing
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 04:09:40 GMT

I am very much in favor of starting or maintaining a more
detailed listing of repeaters. My primiary interest
in Amateur Radio is in the area of propagation -- not
the HF stuff, but VHF and UHF. The thing that really gets
me is the city/state information being provided as the only
geographical reference! How about some coordinates!! 
"Give me coordinates and ERP and I can figure everything else
out!"

I have in the past given access to a terrain data base to any
HAM who as asked. I continue my offer -- especially if the
hight above average terrain (HAAT) could be included in the
repeator directory. Site elevation (AMSL) and Transmitter height
AMSL would to me also be a requirement if it were up to me. 

Coordinates and TX elevations are to me the most basic and 
and obvious things missing from the ARRL directory.

I would like to work with a bunch of repeater coordinators 
to develop a package of software to be used in repeater
coordination. I've contacted the local group (TMARC -- The
Mid Atlantic Repeater Counsel) with the idea of working with
them, but the gusy like using rules and road maps. Humph.

Anyone like to work with me in developing some simple yet
technically founded esitmations of service and interference
areas to be used in a package for repeater coordination?

Best wishes to all for a safe and happy New Year!

Rich
-- 
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From: reisert@mast.enet.dec.com ("Jim Reisert, AD1C  26-Dec-1992 0031")
Subject: ARRL DX Bulletin #62 - 24 December 1992
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 21:30:52 PST
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ZCZC AE25
QST de W1AW  
DX Bulletin 62  ARLD062
From ARRL Headquarters  
Newington CT  December 24, 1992
To all radio amateurs   
 
SB DX ARL ARLD062
ARLD062 DX news
 
Thanks to Tedd, KB8NW, the Ohio/Penn PacketCluster Network, Alfred,
DL1FL, and Bill, K5FUV, for the following DX information.
 
SOMALIA.  Robin, WA6CDR, is with CBS and active as T55C.  He plans
to operate mostly CW and will be on whenever duties allow.  He will
have to QRT suddenly on occasion, as work takes priority.  Robin
plans to stay until the company leaves the area and will QSL after
he returns stateside.  Cards go to his home call.
 
CAMBODIA.  Sanyi, HA7VK, has been signing XU7VK since early
December.  Check 14014 and 14185 kHz between 1900 to 0230z.  QSL via
HA0HW.  John, PA3BTQ, is in Phnom Penh until the end of January and
has been issued the call sign XU6TQ.  Check for his CW on 14050 and
21050 kHz, and for SSB on 14315 and 21315 kHz.  He may be on OSCAR
13 Mode B from time to time.  QSL via PA0EQ.  XU3UN has been worked
from the eastern US with good signals on 80 meters SSB.  He was on
3793 and listened on 3791, 3775 and then from 3770 to 3780 between
1200 and 1300z.
 
MONGOLIA.  Several JT's, including JT1V, have been active on 80
meters at east coast sunrise.
 
TONGA.  A35CT should be active for the next 2 to 3 years.  Check
14219 kHz around 0530z.
 
TAIWAN.  Check 80 meters for BV2A, BV2DJ and BV7JA, specifically
3500 through 3510 kHz from 1030 to 1430z.
 
ALAND ISLAND.  Look for OH0MEP, OH0MFP, OH0LQK, OH0MYD and OH0NLP
from December 26 to January 3.  Activity will be on 80 through 10
meters using verticals and monoband Yagis.  QSL their home calls in
OH3 land.
 
SPECIAL EVENT STATION.  VI5VIA will be active between January 29 and
February 1 to mark the closing of the Adelaide Coastal Radio Station
VIA, on January 31, 1993. VK5WC, VK5ZRH, and the South Coast Amateur
Club, will operate on all HF bands and some VHF/UHF.  VIA was
commissioned in Adelaide on October 12, 1912.  A special QSL card
will be made available.
 
SLOVAKIA.  DL1FL says after January 1, stations in Slovakia will use
the prefix OM.  Stations in the Czech Republic will continue to use
OK and OL.
 
BARBADOS. Glenn, VE3ICR, will be active through February 6 as 8P9DX,
a call sign he has held since 1987.  He plans a full tilt effort in
the CQ World-Wide 160 CW Contest.
NNNN

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Re: Online Repeater Directory?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 05:29:15 GMT

johnr@nx22.mik.uky.edu (john s roberts) writes:

>I'm the dude who said I would maintain an on-line directory (for those of
>you who don't read headers).

>Okay so if I started doing this, do you think that there would be enough
>people here on the net that care enough to send me freqs for repeaters
>that they know of.  The issue of the repeater directory being copywrited  
>came up, but I'm not so sure how this applies.

If you are deriving your list from the ARRL Repeater Directory, you are
using their intellectual property (although admittedly, the recent
Supreme Court decision about the White Pages calls into question whether
an alphabetical list of information constitutes "enhanced value"). 

At the very least, I'm hesitant about some project (with no guarantee
of existing for the long-term) undercutting the efforts of the ARRL,
an organization which is at least consistent, if imperfect.

>Anyway, I might not even scan in the repeater directory, but just start
>from scratc with what you guys give me.  Also, what fields should I 
>include about each repeater.  Obviously city, state, and in/out freqs,
>but what about elevation, operator, and other non-essential info?

As I pointed out to John via E-mail, there already exists an On-Line
Repeater Directory project on the net.  It's run by Steve Wattress, and
is mentioned in the FAQ for this newsgroup.  For more information, ftp
to ftp.cs.buffalo.edu and get the file ~/pub/ham-radio/repeater_map_proj.

Yes to the general idea, no to undercutting the ARRL or undertaking a
redundant project that someone else is doing.

73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu
From: rossi@gvls1.gvl.unisys.com (Pete Rossi)
Subject: What's wrong with my Diamond 2m/440 antenna???
Organization: Paramax Systems Corp (A Unisys Company), Great Valley Labs, PA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:05:38 GMT

I have been using a Diamond SG-7900 2m/440 mobile antenna for the past
6 months.  Suddenly during the past week it has "died" on 440.

It seems to be working fine on 2 meters but is acting like a dummy load
on 440.  All connections, coax, etc are fine.  Using another antenna with
the same mount/coax works fine.  But, 440 repeaters that are full scale
on my IC-24AT with the rubber duck are totally non-existent on the SG-7900.

On 440 with the SG-7900, the HT acts like there is no antenna connected.
With other 440 antennas it is fine.  The SG-7900 appears to be working OK
on 2 meters.  This one really has me confused.

Anyone ever see anything like this??

=================================================================
Pete Rossi - WA3NNA                  rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM

Paramax Systems Corporation - a Unisys Company
Electronic Systems - Valley Forge Labs - Paoli, Pennsylvania
=================================================================
From: johnp@silver.lcs.mit.edu (John Palaima)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Anli AL-800 review and ASA 9209 2m ant review
Date: 1 Jan 93 16:31:04
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: silver.ai.mit.edu

I am interested in peoples opinions on both the ANLI AL-800 portable dual band antenna and the ASA 9209 Aerial 2m Antenna
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