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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Switch-Launch died in System 6?
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:46:27 GMT
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck
In-reply-to: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk's message of 7 Apr 92 11:34:00 GMT

OK, forget that last query. I've just noticed that the 7.0.1 RAM disk
survives Restart and can be designated as a startup device, which does
the job. I presume this is intended for the day when the system software
(such as the disk tools) doesn't fit on a floppy at all.

Nick.
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From: bobsoron@world.std.com (Bob Soron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Will there be a Tune-Up 1.1.1.1?
Summary: ... 'cuz 1.1.1's no solution here
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:32:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.BMMn6A.Muu
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

I'm using a 5-meg IIci running 7.0.1. Bought the IIci a couple months
ago; it came with the Tune-Up 1.0 installer. Installed it, not a
problem. 1.1 came out, I installed it, never had a problem. Picked up
1.1.1 off ftp.apple.com late yesterday and life's been Hell On Wheels
since. Programs that worked fine yesterday morning now crash with
F-line instruction errors and Unimplemented trap errors. The Finder
spontaneously quit on me -- the same effect you see when you use
Command-Option-Escape to quit the Finder to rebuild the Desktop. (No,
I didn't hit that combination. My hands weren't on the keyboard at the
time.) I haven't been able to throw away some files on my hard drive --
and no, they aren't busy or locked; I haven't used these particular
items in months, and I don't lock documents or folders I create.

Other users on my local user group's BBS have mentioned similar
problems, so it isn't just me.

I'm going back to Tune-Up 1.0 tomorrow morning, I think. Or 1.1, given
that Apple never said *what* was wrong with it, and that it worked
verifiably better than 1.1.1. But I *am* interested in finding out if
I'm in a majority or minority...

Bob Soron
bobsoron@world.std.com
"With Velcro, gravity is obsolete" -- Mister Boffo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Subject: utility to change the sound level
Reply-To: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 13:00:48 GMT


is there an init that will allow me to switch the volume level by
using a keyboard-mouse combination (sort of like depth charge for changing
screen color depth level by pressing control-command-click or the like).
or better yet one that will turn off the sound after 10pm and on again
at 9am.

jerry
From: tgh3_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Timothy Gerald Harrnacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SpeedBeep dead with new Disenfecant
Date: 5 Apr 92 07:38:25 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Apr5.154102.2456@otago.ac.nz> stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:

>In article <1992Apr1.122432.45@sleepy.bmd.trw.com>, 
>auerbach@sleepy.bmd.trw.com writes:
>> I'm having a problem with SpeedBeep since I started using Disenfectant 2.7.  
>[...]

>SpeedBeep died when version 2.6 of Disinfectant came out. I
>believe the author of SpeedBeep has been in contact with John
>Norstad (author of Disinfectant) about this, and there is nothing
>that can be done about it, other than not using Disinfectant.

Wrong!!! A new version of SpeedBeep (2.6) is available at sumex-aim.
With this version of SpeedBeep the problem dissappears.
I have been using both with no problems whatsoever.

O'thy

>-- 
>See ya
>                                Nigel.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Nigel Stanger,                  Internet: stanger@otago.ac.nz
>University of Otago,            Phone: +64 3 479-8179
>Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.           Fax:   +64 3 479-8311
>Useful tip #82913: Do not shave with a hedge trimmer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ejw1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Eric Weidl)
Subject: Finder crashes when 'duplicate' selected
Reply-To: ejw1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Academic and Public Computing
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:14:38 GMT


I'm running 7.0.1 with Tune-up 1.1.1 on a IIci with 8Mb RAM, 20 virtual, 
32-bit mode, and a Technology Works Cache Card.  Everytime I select an icon in 
the Finder, and then select 'Duplicate' from the File menu, bam!, right into 
Macsbug with a bus error.  Has anyone else experienced this problem?  I've 
tried turning every extension off, 24-bit mode, no virtual, rebuilding the 
hard disk, reinstalling the system, with and without Tune-up, with straight 
7.0, and none of it changes this behavior.  Duplicate == Bus Error.  Any ideas?

-- 
===================================================================
               Eric Weidl    e-weidl@uchicago.edu
      University of Chicago -- Academic and Public Computing
===================================================================
From: newton@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: A reverse screen init that works, but....
Summary: How?
Keywords: Close View, reverse screen
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:42:43 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena


Having tried several INIT's, ... that were meant to reverse the screen
(to white on black), a recent posting finally pointed out one that
worked: CloseView (part of the system software).

Unfortunately, it also puts this large 'Box' around the cursor to make 
it easy to find.  Can ResEdit or ??? or ??? be used to turn off the large
boxes?

- mike
(newton@gumby.cs.caltech.edu)
From: nerm@apple.com (Dean Yu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Tuneup 1.1.1 & missing folders...fix or cludge?
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:40:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: goofy.23237
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Apr12.043028.15816@crash.cts.com>, alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro) writes:
> Mounted my 6.0.8 volumes one by one, waited for the desktops to be
> rebuilt and opened a 4-level deep folder. I saw the file and folder
> icons appear on the screen then I saw one of them actually disappear.
> 
> I was just in the middle of cursing apple when it came back again
> (before my very eyes). No more than 5 seconds had passed with the folder
> not showing its icon.
> 
> Was I bitten by the missing folder bug? Did I see an indication that apple has
> not actually fixed the bug but have installed a detection/action patch?
> 
> comments?...nothing rude now
> 

  TuneUp 1.1.1 PREVENTS the disappearing folder bug from happening if you
have a kosher volume.  If your volume has already been hit by the bug, 
TuneUp cannot help you.  The release notes explicitly say this.  The notes
also mention that you should run Disk First Aid to determine if your
volumes are afflicted by this problem.

  -- Dean Yu
     Blue Meanie, Negative Ethnic Role Model, Window Cleaner,
      Skanky Hack Consultant, etc.
     Apple Computer, Inc.
     blah blah blah blah blah...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: alana@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu (Thomas Alan Akins)
Subject: Re: Apple, please tell us more about S7 TuneUp
Organization: /local/lib/rn/organization
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:31:09 GMT

In article <BARRY.92Apr9112847@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu> barry@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu (Barry Kort) writes:
>Having installed S7 Tuneup, and having experienced the typical occasional
>system crashes, I would appreciate knowing what problems are attributable
>to the TuneUp, so that I can segregate problems which are unrelated to
>S7 TuneUp and continue working on them while awaiting TuneUp 7.1.1.

The latest released version of the System 7 Tune-Up is 1.1 with the bug-fixing
version 1.1.1 on the way.

>(Or is Apple recommending a de-installation of the TuneUp? If so, what
>is the recommended procedure to do that?)

Simply removed the Tune Up Extension from the Extensions folder..


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*                                          | Alan Akins: alana@cs.uoregon.edu *
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From: bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Too-loud PB 170 startup sound
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:35:51 GMT
Organization: Cafe Limbo

PowerBook 170: If set my speaker volume to 0 so that the machine makes
no sound but just flashes the menu bar, the startup chord is MUCH louder
than if the speaker volume is > 0.  This is quite annoying - is there
some workaround?

(I set the volume to zero because I dislike the speaker clicks, for one
thing.)
-- 
Paul DuBois
dubois@primate.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: juskiw@ee.ualberta.ca (Scott Juskiw)
Subject: 8-24GC Killed by TuneUp 1.1 ?!?!?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:24:52 GMT

To anyone using an 8-24GC card...

Has anybody experienced major bugs using system 7.0.1, TuneUp 1.1, and the
8-24GC accelerator ?  I'm using a completely reformatted drive with a vanilla
7.0.1 installed with NO applications, extra INITs, or anything (just the 8-24
INIT, version 7.0).

If I open the GC control panel and toggle the accelerator on and off a few
times, close the control panel, open it again, toggle it again a few more
time, the machine will eventually lock up (often on the FIRST toggle). This
only happens when the TuneUp is installed.  Applications die quickly as well
(that's how I first discovered there was a problem).  Reformatting the disk
and reinstalling the system doesn't seem to help; as soon as I 'tune up',
BAM !

I can't believe that Apple didn't check the TuneUp with the GC accelerator.
Maybe I've got a bad TuneUp, or System disks, or GC init.

Anybody else having major machine lockup since 'tuning up' ?

-- 
Scott Juskiw
Electrical Engineering
juskiw@ee.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: lstein@athena.mit.edu (Lincoln Stein)
Subject: Bug in System 7 File Sharing?
Keywords: file sharing appleshare shared volumes
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:40:08 GMT

According to Apple, Macs running system 6.0.7 can access shared
volumes on a System 7 machine using the Appleshare chooser device.
This evening I discovered that this setup fails in one essential
aspect.  Whenever a System 6 user drags an item on a System 7 shared
volume into the trash and tries to delete it, the System 7 machine
freezes up and requires a reboot.  The System 6 user also sees a
frozen machine until the remote machine is rebooted, at which time
things come back to life with a "server unexpectedly went down"
message.

I suspect that the reason the crash is occuring is because of the
very different ways that Systems 6 and 7 view the trash (one as a bit
set in the file header, and the other as an actual folder).

I am using system 6.0.7 with the generic Appleshare files that come on
the 6.0.7 startup disks, and system 7.0.1 with 7-tuneup v1.1 on the
remote machine.  Is there any fix for this?

===============================================================================
Lincoln D. Stein                                Brigham & Women's Hospital
lstein@hstbme.mit.edu                           Boston, MA
===============================================================================

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: c3ar@zaphod.uchicago.edu (Walter C3arlip)
Subject: Default Application Stack
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:55:14 GMT


Does anyone out there have a utility (say, a cdev or extension)
that alters the default stack allocation for a program? [I'm looking for
something along the lines of HeapTool that alters the size of the system
heap.]

Thanks.

--Walter
_____________________________________________________________________________
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(the "3" is invisible)                  
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From: cdoucet@mais.hydro.qc.ca (cdoucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: quadra cache on/off ???
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:11:00 GMT

is there a program (that work!!!) that would be smatr enough to switch
the quadra cache on or off when needed ??

i have been trying compatibility. it looked to work well until i wanted to print with pagemaker 4.0 it was seying the printer in the chooser but couldn't print to it ????

any sugestion apreciated thank's in advance !!

cdoucet@mais.hydro.qc.ca
Christian Doucet
From: John_Jenkins@taligent.com (John H. Jenkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: question: mac file to next printer & kanji question
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:43:47 GMT
Organization: Taligent, Inc.

In article <1992Apr9.140804.1717@nic.csu.net>, eburk@russian.sfsu.edu (Eli K. Burk) writes:
>      2) How do I do this for bitmapped fonts include kanji?
>           ATM-J? (Is this copy protected? - I heard that it is) How
>                much does it cost? How many fonts are included?
>      3) Is there a cheap (or least not painfully expensive) way to print
>         Japanese fonts to Mac laser printer - Apple japanese postscript
>         printer upgrade is obscence
> 
> thanks for your time
> eli
> 
> 

ATM-J can be had for under $200 and includes two PostScript fonts.  It
is copy protected, in a fashion:  you can't download the fonts from your
Mac to your printer.  

John H. Jenkins
John_Jenkins@taligent.com
From: Mike_Steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Disk First Aid 7.0 -- useless for filesystem fixup?
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:43:40 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation

In article <1992Apr9.095636.922@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, tonyrich@titanic.cs.wisc.edu (Anthony Rich) writes:
> 
> Problem:  Trying to fix Mac filesystem corruption problems on an internal
>           300MB CMS Wren HD in a vanilla Mac II under system 7.0.1.
> 
> 1.  You can't run Disk First Aid from the HD itself, because DFA can't repair
>     the boot volume or the volume it's launched from.  OK, fine.
> 
> 2.  So I boot from a 6.0.5 floppy with DFA 7.0 on it and run DFA 7.0 to fix
>     the HD.  DFA says "Repairs needed.  Do you want me to fix them?"
>     I click YES.  DFA refuses!  "Can't repair disk due to open files."  Grrr.

[...]

> Come on, Apple -- can't Disk First Aid be made effective and user-friendly?
> And what about that hidden command-S crock needed just to see what the heck
> DFA is trying to do?  Is DFA a Macintosh program or a DOS program?

Try running it from system 6.0.7 or from 7.0.1 minimal system.  I've had no
problem running it that way.
From: david@mobius.msri.org (David Mostardi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Why can't I background printing?
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:31:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: dog.22610
Reply-To: david@mobius.msri.org (David Mostardi)
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Research Institute, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.188.88

Hardware: Mac IIcx, Sys 7.0.1, 80M disk, Radius full-page display.

Problem:  When I open Chooser, and click LaserWriter, the "on" button for
	  background printing is dimmed out.


Printing itself works fine -- it's just the backgrounding that I can't
enable.  My other (similarly configured) IIcx does not do this.  
Any ideas why I might be experiencing this?

Thanks,
David

-- 
******************************************************************
David Mostardi                        "Where the coffee is strong,
Systems Administrator                     the cat is good-looking, 
MSRI, Berkeley CA          and all the theorems are above-average."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dks@athena.mit.edu (dks)
Subject: Re: Neil, would you please comment on this?
Organization: MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:43:21 GMT

In article <43791@spt.entity.com> mdc@spt.UUCP (Marty Connor) writes:
>bill coderre:
>>I know it sounds stupid and crazy, but it keeps lots of people
>>employed, and until someone changes the laws, that's the way it's
>>going to be.
>
>Well, I guess there's no need to fight anymore!  God what a relief, I
>just keep sending these messages, and if I had just asked, you could
>have told me that it was hopeless.  Thanks!


No one said it was hopeless.  No one said there's no need to fight.
In fact, Bill invited you to get the laws "fixed."  Or at least he did in the
posting that appeared on my screen.  Why the knee-jerk reaction?



Dhanesh
From: ISW@cup.portal.com (Isaac S Wingfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Stubborn Disk Icon
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:57:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Running System 7.0

Sometime recently, my Hard Drive Icon decided to move itself from somewhere
tolerable to someplace I don't like very much. Further, even if I move it
to where *I* want it, it won't stay there; after every restart, it's back to
where *it* wants to be. The Trash, on the other hand, got moved and stayed 
there just like a good Icon should.

How do I make the Disk Icon stay where I want it? I'm tolerably competent
with ResEdit, if that helps...

Thanks, Isaac    isw@cup.portal.com
From: gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu (Just another theatre geek.....)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Neil, would you please comment on this?
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:50:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr10.155023.7635
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <44022@spt.entity.com> mdc@spt.UUCP (Marty Connor) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.151713.27410@u.washington.edu> gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu (Just another theatre geek.....) writes:
>>>>Don't yell at Apple. get the laws fixed.
>>>Quit blaming everything on "the laws".  I believe that Apple follows
>>>that part of "the law" that is most profitable for it.
>>	Irrelevant arguement in this case, since, if you know any law, the
>>stuff you've been calling "stupid and irrational" is pretty close to
>>de rigeur. 
>Whether the laws are de rigeur and whether they are "stupid and
>irrational" are two seperate questions in my mind.

	Yup. But a company's actions under the laws is definitely connected
to the former.  And given that the laws do exist, and given that they
are what they are, acting under them is not what I call stupid or irrational.

>>>Your argument that Apple is being as nice as possible under "the law"
>>>suggests that if it could "under the law", Apple would be some sort of
>>>corporate sister theresa.
>>	Your arguement is that Apple is still slime even though they're
>>doing what other corporations have to do in order to protect their
>>rights under law.  This isn't a good arguement; just reflexive
>>Apple-bashing.
>Once again, you seem to be unable to accept that idea that a company
>operating within the law can still be slime. 
>I believe that there is
>a lot of latitude under the law, and Apple is operating on the
>mean-spirited side of things.  I also believe my argument stands.

	The problem is that you really haven't shown that Apple is acting
in a mean-spirited way. Given the way copyright laws are, given the way
trademark laws are, it is hard to tell what kind of spirit lies behind
Apple's actions--the laws DO require behavior that's nitpicky--there
is >NO< lattitude under these particular trademark and copyright laws,
especially when it comes to commercial transactions.




-- 
Roger Tang gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu
Executive Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW;
	The definition of having balls is a non-singer who goes karaoke singing 
with the cast of a musical revue.
From: corse@a1.mscf.upenn.edu (Emily L. Corse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Error -32 with PrintMonitor
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:08:26 GMT
Organization: U of PA Biomed Library

I can no longer print from my MacLC to my Personal LaserWriter NT.  
PrintMonitor just stores all the files to be printed, without giving me
any kind of message.  When I try to open PrintMonitor from the System Folder,
I get a -32 error message.

Does anyone know what this means?  And how am I supposed to be able to find
out?

Thanks!  Please email me directly...

-- Emily
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: Re: Clarification of posting (was Re: Power Key)
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:47:07 GMT

stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:

>aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) writes:
>[...]
>>>Nowhere does it claim that the REST of TuneUp's changes will remain in
>>>effect.  I'd like to know, though, how to install something which
>>>starts out as an init into the system so that it will remain installed
>>>if I boot w/ extensions off...  Specifically, the PowerKey init.

>> So, the question still remains...  Is the method (Matt?) mentioned
>> above a 'valid' way to permanantly install functionality into the
>> System?  I know it was the "original" way, but lots have changed since
>> then.
>> 	-=Alan

>An interesting thing I've noticed about the Tuner: it doesn't
>have the file type INIT, like others do. Instead it has the
>type/creator scri/toon. It _does_ contain an INIT resource
>though. At a guess I would say that this may have something to do
>with it's startup behaviour.

Maybe...  Maybe I should 'rename' PowerKey so that it has type/creator
the same.  Because pasting the INIT and other resources into a System
file DIDN'T work.  Argh.  Any more suggestions?  Anyone know if
Sophisticated Circuits is on the net?  Worst come to worst, I'll call
them, but...  In this electronic age, I shouldn't have to pick up an
electromechanical thing like a _telephone_!!!

	-=Alan
From: trsnyder@mcs.Drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Apple's worst current piece of software
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:05:35 GMT
	<TRSNYDER.92Apr5225536@queen.mcs.Drexel.edu>
	<HROSE.92Apr5234331@rocza.eff.org>
Organization: GE Aerospace, Advanced Technology Labs, Moorestown, NJ

>>>>> In article <HROSE.92Apr5234331@rocza.eff.org>, hrose@eff.org
>>>>> (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:

 Bob> Nope.  It's System 6, last I checked.

Helen> That's the DSDD disk. the FDHD 7.X disktools is indeed a minimal 7.X
Helen> system.

Ahhh.  OK.  My measly Classic doesn't need 7.01, so I never bothered getting
anything but the 800K that came with the upgrade.  My apologies for the
misinformation... :-)

Bob
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