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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: Re: Blue Comet
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:01:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.212947.7945@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dnaraghi@magnus.ac
s.ohio-state.edu (Dara Naraghi) writes:
>    Just out of curiosity, how many people have read any titles
>published by this tiny little independent company called Blue Comet
>Press?  The name of some of the books are L.I.F.E Brigade, Rough Raiders,
>and Bladesmen.  If you have read any of them, what did you think?
>Do you think any of them have the potential to become good books?

[Gagging sounds rivaled only by those made by me on seeing the ET article on 
Superman's return deleted]

LIFE Brigade was the most crappily drawn thing I have ever looked at in the 
Quarter Bin and avoided buying.  I could have drawn better in 9th grade.  It 
was obviously some guy with an inking set and a lot of neat inking tricks but 
no drawing ability who had a friend or relative putting out comics as a write- 
off or something.  Seriously gagging.

Rough Raiders, however, was much better.  It is the same universe and 
characters as LIFE Brigade, but had guest artists who were pretty good, 
including Ben Dunn and a few other talented no-names.

Oh, LIFE Brigade was originally drawn by a Mr. Stormon.  When I saw X-Factor 
was going to be taken over by a Stroman I nearly had a coronary until I went 
down to the quarter bin and double-checked the spelling.  In Rough Raiders 
Stormon contented himself with writing.  I think if he had found an artistic 
partner right off we would have been spared his pencils.

     Dave Van Domelen, LB was seriously badly drawn...I cannot emphasize this 
enough....
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From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Marvel copies DC... again
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:37:38 GMT


	All I can say is look at the ad for Hellstrom...if they arent 
desperately trying to say John Constantine Ill eat this 7-up can.
	
	Characters have always been introduced in annuals...its just that until
eclpiso (who was re-introduced to be fair) they werent that good.  
	
	Yes marvel has horror/mystic titles....no they arent any good (Dr.
Strange is NOT a 'sorcerer' he is an energy projector in pajamas with funky
special effects...on par with Arion perhaps)

	regarding Marvel's explosion...they really could delete 8/9 of their
current titles and I wouldnt notice their passage except to make more room
on the shelf for decent storytelling.

-- 
"Salam and good evening to you sir.  Welcome to Agribah, land of mystery
of enchantment, and the best deals this side of the river Jordan, come on down"
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: J.M. De Matteis, not bad writing on Spidey
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:08:11 GMT

Spiderman is usually an "autoread" for me, I just read them out of
habit and don't buy too often, but Spectacular Spider-Man 197 was
actually pretty damned good and different, even with the obligatory
fight and the X-Men.  It's like biting into a plain donut and finding
it's jellyfilled.  Or some other analogy like that.
-- 
Somebody's had too much to think.
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From: pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn)
Subject: Re: Action Comics 686 (clones)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:54:51 GMT

In article <SS.93Jan8194545@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>>>>>> On 8 Jan 93 23:23:59 GMT, vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams) said:
>
>vanyel> In <1993Jan8.211058.12461@sol.UVic.CA>
>vanyel> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>
>jcowling> His hair isn't invulnerable.
>
>vanyel> His hair *is* invulnerable.  That's why he had to cut it with
>vanyel> his own heat vision.
>
>True. He shaves my relecting his heat vision off a piece of metal from
>the space ship he arrived on Earth in. Besides, if his hair wasn't
>invulnerable, it would have been burned off long ago.
>
Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't this mean his hair _is_ vulnerable? Surely
Supes heat vision is not so ungodly powerful that Cadmus couldn't come
up with a laser that could do the same trick?


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From: sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG)
Subject: Re: Action Comics 686 (clones)
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Date: 11 Jan 1993 17:43 EST  

In article <C0pCH5.1BG@news.ucs.mun.ca>, cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  ) writes...
> 
>In case people missed my post on the weekend, Superman WILL NOT be
>coming back as a clone in any form. This was reported on CNN on the
>weekend with the source being an editor at DC comics. He definately will
>not becoming back as four clones, or clones in any way, shape, form, or
>manner. The DC spokesperson wanted to set the record straight because of
>the wild specualtion on his return.

I don't have all of the details, but the latest Comic Buyer's Guide 
(#1000?) had an interview with one of the Superman writers (Jurgens?).  The 
writer commented that the creators of the four Superman books would not be 
jobless after Funeral For a Friend.  Rather, the creative teams will work 
on four new series, each featuring a *new* hero.  He points out that the 
heroes are not the ones to be featured in Legacy of Superman #1 (waverider, 
and a few others I don't recall).  In response to questions about the four 
new characters, the writer responded:

 "Something old, something new.  Something borrowed, something BLUE."

Hmmm....  The "four clones" theory would fit.  

The writer was more specific, but my recollection of the details are a 
little fuzzy since I only skimmed the interview.  If there's interest, I 
could dig it up.

 - Wayne.
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From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN:Lucien's Library
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:31:29 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Adina Adler (pho@athena.mit.edu (Pho User)) writes:

>	I can't believe no one else has thought of this:  Stig's
>Inferno!  Also Aztec Ace.

As of sometime last year, Aztec Ace was one Eclipse's soon-to-be-shipping
(yeah, right) list.  So it is/was definitely in the Library.

------------------------------
                             |     "What's that noise?" I asked Val.  "Sounds
Jim Drew                     | like an electric razor."
jrd@frame.com                |     "Ron's shaving," I was told.
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       |     "Shaving?  Ron?  The guy who thinks everyone
"Innocent, but not naive."   | would look better with a beard, even Madonna?"
B(2)h t c k s g+(p) rv p e   |     "Who said anything about shaving his
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  | *beard?*" Val said, and scratched idly at his
{opinions: mine != frame's}  | chest.
                             |		- Marc Lynx, "Awl's Fare"
From: manga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Peter Michael Betz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Harvey does Ultraman (recommended!)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 04:17:09 GMT
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In article <1993Jan3.031752.6391@julian.uwo.ca> larocqu@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (JOHN LAROCQUE) writes:
>Ultraman kicks ass. Yes, Japan's number one superhero is invading North
>America. I recently saw some toys of Ultraman on sale at the local drug
>store. Way cool. This guy is 20 feet tall (just like the Avenger's Giant
>Man) and kicks some serious Japanese monster ass!

I hate to bust yer bubble here, But Ultraman is quite the bit taller than
20 feet tall. 20 STORIES tall, maybe :)

Tiger-A
From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: What if...
Date: 6 Jan 1993 14:52:57 GMT
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In article <1993Jan6.041755.14525@eskimo.com> ntprlr@eskimo.com (NightProwler) writes:
>
>What if....
>
>Sandman was a Marvel title?  

	What do you think Sleepwalker is?  According to rumors, spread by
Neil G. himself that Marvel was ready to make a Sandman-ish comic, with
a real Brit writer and stuff, but DeFalco finally got around to read an
ish of Sandman, and though it was boring.  Just people talking and stuff.
So now we have Sleepwalker, that paragon of drekdom.
-- 
Rick Jones		"People come back from the dead all the time.  I mean,
albert@bcm.tmc.edu	 I've come back from the dead.  I bet you have to!"
Systems Support Center	"Well... Yes, I have.  But I AM a professional."
Voice: 713-798-7352	       -Rick Jones and Dr Strange, Incredible Hulk #399
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Future Imperfect -- in jokes
Date: Mon,  4 Jan 93 05:57:08 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Putting in Waldo was my idea.  But just about everything in Rick's trophy
room was George's.

PAD
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Next Men Russian
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:51:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.142322.7986@uvm.edu> cblaise@moose.uvm.edu (Chris Blaise) writes:
>From article <C0Cwx7.HD0@irvine.com>, by jsweet@irvine.com (Jerry Sweet):
>> Thought this might barely amuse some of you who follow Next Men...no
>> knowledge of Russian required.  Take a look at the Russian speech
>> balloons.  Haul out your Webster's dictionary, look up "alphabet," and
>> find the list of Russian letters and corresponding phonemes.  Now
>> phonetically decode the balloons.  Compare to the "translations."
>> 
>> It's hardly worth the trouble, unless you're REALLY REALLY bored, but
>> might provide you a microscopic smirk.
>
>	I noticed this myself...I didn't look up the letters in the
>dictionary, but I could still get a good "feel" for what was being
>said vs. the "translation".
>
>	Like you said, only for the really bored...kind of like decyphering
>what Lucifer's woman henchperson was saying in Seasons of Mist.

Or Cold Mary was saying while being "interrogated" in ELEMENTALS #23
(hint: write everything backwards and try to pronounce it phonetically...)

Jay (=

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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: DC: Showcase '93
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:00:57 GMT

lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (Glenn Carnagey) writes:

>I was such a big fan of the original Showcase -- I still read some of
>the few that I have with a lot of fondness -- that I really wanted
>this series to work.  Now that I've seen a couple, I wonder if DC is
>capable of doing a decent anthology anymore (I'd love to have one done
>well).  I think I'd rather go back to the original format of new
>characters, if they can't do better than this.

I thought Secret Origins was a pretty good anthology.  I don't
care for Showcase '93 because I'd prefer to see longer segments
of the stories.  The backups have what, about 12 pages each per
issue?  Also, I don't like the way multi-part stories of varying
lengths end up out of sync with each other in this type of book,
so that if you decide to stop reading, you're forced to do so
in the middle of at least one on-going story.

As for the decision to feature a member of the Batman family of
characters in the lead story each month, well, if I wanted to
follow these characters, I'd pick up some of the many Batman
titles put out each month.  I suppose the decision to feature
such characters was made to boost sales of this title, but it
doesn't do much for those of us who don't want to follow Batman
and the other Gothamites.

Tom
From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Elmo the Stunt Elk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN:Lucien's Library
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:45:31 -0600
Organization: The Eekcidental Tourist
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rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly) writes:
> --The Annotated Sandman, bound and printed by "reputable literary firm," 
> 	foreward by Gaiman, illustrated by Kelly Jones and Dave McKean.

	Yeah, yeah, that's one of my New Year's Resolutions, to get this
in some sort of proposal I can ship around.  I was thinking Kitchen Sink,
or maybe get Neil to walk it past Karen Berger (if I can so impose upon
him).
-- 
"The weakest nations in the world are those that had a woman as a leader.  It  
doesn't mean that Islam is against woman.  On the contrary, it respects them   
and says they are equal to men.  But [history shows] that weak nations are led 
by woman."--Afghani interim President Sibjhatullah Mojadedi                    
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
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From: castle@cs.dal.ca (JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE)
Subject: Re: Signal to Noise
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:35:28 GMT

In article <143560030@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
|> In rec.arts.comics.misc, dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

|> > Death, dying, mortality

|> is not as much dense symbolism as in Arkham Asylum to keep one

Arkham had dense symbolism? I'll try reading it.

|> > The inhabitants of a European village, on the
|> > last night of 999 AD, waiting for the world to end.  (Why people thought
|> > that the world would end 999 years after the birth of Christ, rather than
|> > a year later, is something I've never understood.)

upside-down 666 ?

Yours Sincerely,
	Julian Castle
//////
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  <  /
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From: royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Daniel)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: A Brief comment on Brief Lives
Keywords: Get Anxious!
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:49:30 GMT

In article <C0MLoC.E73@athena.cs.uga.edu> jordan@castor (Jet Jaguar) writes:
>
>I'm not as much a slobbering sandboy as some of the others I've read on the
>net, but it's still one of my favorite comics.  I can't think of a single
>storyline (even The Doll's House, which was my favorite) where I've liked
>every issue and every aspect of the story.  (Dangerous Habits in Hellblazer
>is an example of a storyline where everything worked for me.)  Instead,
>certain scenes or aspects of the story in Sandman will stand out in my mind.
>The scenes with Barbie and Ken's dreams in The Doll's House; the pages where
>all the gods address Morpheus in Season of Mists (along with the issue with
>art by Matt Wagner); the characters of Prinado and Wilkinson in A Game of
>You.  Anybody else on r.a.c.m have the same experience with Sandman?
>
How can you forget:

Dream's song about Death in issue #8. Those two pages where sooo intense.
The duel with the Demon in Hell. "I am hope."
This so-frightening 24 Hours where the girl talks about her necrophilia.
Abel talking to Goldie, crying blood.


Daniel Roy


-- 
Mr. Cole's axiom:
	"The sum of the intelligence on the planet is a constant;
	 the population is growing."
From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Fantastic Four
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:51:06 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland

>I think we are agreed that Tom DeFalco is doing an awful job writing the 
>FF, with no end in sight.  
I love a person with a gift of understatement.
>
>As an excercise in optimistic fantasy, who do you think should be writing 
>it?  I woudl suggest:
>
>(a) Peter David, who potentially has the right touch with 
>characterization and whimsy that is so suited to the FF.  ANd just plain 
>humour and sense of adventure.
Agreed. Without trying to sound like to much of a PAD groupie, his
writing style would be a breathe of fresh air on this title. Put some
fun back into the FF. It's been awhile.
>
>(b) John Byrne.  He did it once.... *not* it greatest moments, but a darn 
>sight better than anything we've seen since.

IMHO, Byrne did the definitive FF. Intelligently written and finally
brought Sue out of the Dark Ages (where Deflaco has put her back to) and
produced some powerful stories. The issue where Sue's child died is
still one of the more powerful stories ever done.  

For the record, I'd like to see Walt Simonson come back again. Sure some
of the issues were damn weird, but they were fun in a twisted sort of
way.
Grant Morrison expressed a desire to write a mainstream book (although
he was being bitter about it). Just imagine what he could do with it.
Fabian Nicieza, but he is to busy trying to resurrect that mess known as
X-Force.
Jim Starlin, but then the FF would just go all cosmic again. Still, he
would probably write some good stories.

There are others, but I can't remember them. Regardless, only Byrne and
Simonson should be allowed to write Dr. Doom. His character suffers when
anybody else tries to write him.
       
_craig

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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: What if...
Organization: Free Faerie Front
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:57:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.013406.28759@news2.cis.umn.edu> lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.041755.14525@eskimo.com> ntprlr@eskimo.com (NightProwler) writes:
>>
>>What if....
>>
>>Sandman was a Marvel title?  
>>[...]
>>Or beter yet, a healthy dose of Mutant Angst(tm).  X-Men and Sandman team up
>>to fight Death and the Beyonder!
>
>Death would probably be wearing fishnet stockings, spike-heeled go-go boots
>and some sort of leather leotard.  

And she'd have *much* larger breasts.
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"I is not now, nor has I ever been, a Human Bein'!"
                ---Pogo Possum
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Cool, I'm psychic.
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.misc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:39:20 GMT

A couple of days ago I stated a bunch of titles that I thought Marvel
would cancell becauses of their imminent colapse. Well, I just got a
copy of "What's New" for the month of March and Low And Behold, on of my
predictions has come true.

Issue #47 will be the last one of the Shield series. "SHIELD goes out
with a bang" whatever that means. It also promises to tie up the lose
ends.

I'm not a SHIELD reader so perhaps someone else would like to do the
post-mortem. Next major (meaning mainstream Marvel) title to go: Cage.
Within the next 6 months to a year. Bet on it.

_craig  

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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Marvel copies DC... again
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 11:51:25 GMT

>however... I LOVED the X-Men/New Mutants' trip to Asgard... but trying to
>fit them into Atlantis Attacks brought a whole new meaning to the word
>"contrived".  I only complain when the writing suffers...   :P

Can someone explain what this means? The ATLANTIS ATTACKS X-Men Annual had
the X-Men against Mr. Jip and the Serpent Society (my vote for most
oddball villian teamup!) The New Mutants Annual had the Mutants finding a
large seashell and calling up a big ugly sea monster. Unless there's
another X-Men/New Mutants trip to Asgard I'm missing. (And I don't think
he meant that last pre-Liefeld NM story, either...)

Jay (=

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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Cerebus #165
Organization: The Witless Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:06:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.221442.7983@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>Cerebus #165 is certainly a dense issue.  Lots of things are happening
>and, as usual, we come away with more new questions than new answers. 
>
>It's not a good idea to make fun of the Pope's doll.  Of course, we
>already knew that.
>
>Swoon seems to have a clear picture of how the role should be played.
>Snuff is less enthusiastic about the whole notion, but turns out to be
>amenable to pursuasion.  The Cirinists' interpretations of what is
>happening are unreliable.  Did Elrod really 'snuff' twenty soldiers with
>pinpoint accuracy, or did he let off several thousand bolts, twenty of
>which somehow hit?  

Twenty or twenty-one? I thought it was twenty-one.

Anyway, count the number of times the crossbow fires. I think there are
exactly as many shots ("TUNG") as soldiers snuffed. Hard to say how he/she
(Oh hell! Not another one!) did it. I tend to think that Elrod's mind is 
susceptible to outside influence. A clean slate, that is, son. 

>I think we've been seeing some good 
>characterization of Astoria:  Part of her behavior since being released
>from the dungeon is the shrewd politician going for every advantage, but
>part of it seems to be sheer giddiness following her release from a long
>and unpleasant imprisonment.

Yeah, it's good to see Astoria in action again. I think there is a certain 
amount of giddiness as she senses that she's regaining power. Some of that
power comes from just being freed, but knowing that Cirin is in a jam is the 
cake. You almost feel her regaining her stature in the last few issues.

>Those voices in the dark appear to be the voices of the people, behind
>their various closed doors.  The grapevine is actually doing a fairly good
>job of keeping people informed -- without too much misinformation.  Where
>people differ is on their answers to the burning question of "what's the
>best way to assure that I live through this?"

The talk between the two law-abiding citizens was also good. It was a bit
preachy, but the finish redeemed it. "So quiet you could hear a pin drop." 
Indeed.

The cover was a lot of fun. The DC logo with an 'S' scratched over the 'C.'
The assorted McKeaniana. The soft picture of Swoon and Snuff. 

If you have a chance, sit down and just go through the covers of Cerebus.
Sim's covers are generally good and I think he's shown a great deal of
improvement over the years. Or does Gerhard deserve some of the credit
here?

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    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  Berlin in time for tea! They won't soon forget 
   The mild, the dutiful   |  the name of the King's Own Peanut Regiment!"
       and the bland       |          _Mr Peanut and the Green Fields Beyond_