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From: koch@kirk.msoe.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell,comp.sys.novell
Subject: Help! Sluggish Server Slays SysAdmin
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:33:47 CDT
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Organization: Milwaukee School Of Engineering, Milwaukee, WI USA

Fellow Admins or anyone,

	Just finished creating about 3000 accounts on our NW 3.11 server.
Other than a noticeable slowing of performance (seemingly linear) during
the run of makeuser, all went well.  Even Bindfix (two & a half hours)
found no problems.
	However, since the create, certain menu and command line utilities
have become e-x-t-r-e-m-e-l-y sluggish.  For example Volinfo now takes
about a half minute to get the first display up.  And the same for each
reiteration.  Flag of a directory takes about 1 to 2 seconds per file.
And even Chkvol takes a few seconds per volume.
	Using Monitor -p I discovered that the file service process in
use is taking about 95% of the total utilization during execution of
these commands.  The server utilization itself is ranging from 93 to
100%.  Normally it would have been single digits to teens.
	One notable exception to this is the supervisor account which
seems to be unaffected.
	When the accounts were generated, each user received several
properties including:
			Volume Limits on 3 or 4 of the 4 volumes.
			From 1 to 4 trustee rights of C A in various dirs.
			Time, Connection, Password and other restrictions.

Server is as Follows:
			Micronics 486/33 EISA MB /w 32MB RAM
			Dual UltraStor Ultra 24F SCSI Controllers
			2 Micronics NET3200 EISA Ethernet
			2 SMC Elite 16 Ethernet using the BNC on all
			2 Duplexed Micropolis 1598 1.0GB
			1 Micropolis 1548 1.7GB
			1 Seagate ST2209N 180MB
			APC AP9500 UPS Monitor
			Hercules Mono Clone

	The 1.0GB drives have 2 volumes duplexed.  The 1.7GB and 180 MB
each contain 1 volume.
	Seems like either the volume limits or directory rights should
be the culprit.  But I've been unable to confirm without destroying all
of them.
	Any ideas or direction would be greatly appreciated.

	Direct E-mail reply is best since the quarter starts tommorow.

	Thanks in advance,

	Rob.

	Robert Koch			E-Mail: Koch@kirk.msoe.edu
	Milwaukee School of Engineering
	Milwaukee, WI
 
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 11:54:05 CDT
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From:         Tom Hansen <realeasy!tomh@UWM.EDU>
Subject:      HELP: OS/2 Requester: Speed Problem with GLOBAL VDM's

I have a problem.  When I access network drives through an OS/2 VDM with
NETWARE_RESOURCES set to GLOBAL, I/O is much slower than if I set
NETWARE_RESOURCES to PRIVATE, load NETX, and login privately in
that session.

I would like to be able to just log in once at the OS/2 level, and have
icons available on the desktop for DOS apps that reside on the network,
but the I/O speed is a problem.

Is there some setting I can make to eliminate a bottleneck somewhere?

Thanks.


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From:         Maurice Rich <M.Rich@ITC.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Most recent isadsk.dsk nw3.xx driver

Hi Folk,
	We are wondering if their is a more recent ISADSK.DSK driver for
Novell NW3.xx than the one 10415 bytes long dated 02-15-91 11:31   ??
If there is, can it be obtained via ftp ??  ResponseS DirecT To me at email
address below please ....

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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:38:32 +0300
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From:         Vesa Roto <Vesa.Roto@CSC.FI>
Subject:      Re: Setting up Students on 3.11

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>   We will be changing our current networks from IBM PC LAN to
>Novell 3.11 in the next few weeks.
>   With the PC LAN our workstations were not required to enter a
>User ID and Password and since 99 percent of the users on these
>networks were students we had no problems with this setup.
>   Now our Novell File Servers will be shared between Faculty and
>Students, thus we need more security(one of the reasons for going
>to Novell).
>   How are yall handling this problem in the rest of the working world.

>                          Thanks

We used to have the same server for students and faculty.
Our setup at that point was 1 student-id/computer, that was automatically
logged in when the computer was turned on. The security consisted mainly
of removing the students from the EVERYONE group and insted making a STUD
group with much more limited rights.

But we still has miscelenous problems with security and changed to separate
servers for students and staff. Actually we went even further, having the
two servers talk different protocols, so that they don't see each other.

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Yours,
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:40:49 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: S.O.S. ...---... ...---...

>This black Friday I get the wonderful message:
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>System Halt Friday Sept 11, 1992  7:45
>Abend: General Protection Processor Exception (Error code 00730000)
>       OS Vers: Novell Netware v3.11 (100 user) 2/20/91
>       Running Process:              0 Process
>       Stack: 90 43 78 00 00 00 00 00 65 00 00 00 FE 00 00 00
>              70 19 00 00 65 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 00 00 02
>              FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 FE 00
>
>Press "Y" to copy diagnostic image to diskette, otherwise Power off and back
>on to restart.
>To cancel diagnostic dump, press escape when asked to insert disk.
        <etc>
>Mounting volume SYS
>   The mirror copies of the FAT don't match
>   Volume SYS NOT mounted
>
>I can understand that, but it doesn't make me happy. Netware actually boots.
>I had no real mirroring; the message refers to a duplicate copy of the FAT, I
>assume. My questions to all you serious techies out there:
>1) Is there any way of mounting that volume?
>2) Is there any utility which will help me patch together any part of the disk?
>   (Such as the DOS compliment of NDD by Norton.)
>3) If there are two copies of the FAT, can I choose to use one,... then browse
>   the volume to see how it looks, 'maybe use the other? 'Maybe rewrite both?
>4) Is there any worse way to spend a weekend with a promise of great weather?
>
>Kindly forward your advise/suggestions/lifesavers to:
>AWILD@URIACC.URI.EDU
>Thanks in advance,... Alan Wild - LAN Administrator - URI Admin. Computing
---------------
        So the server crashed. Happens to the best of them now and then.
Use VREPAIR. DOS utilities will not work because NetWare is not DOS. Keep
applying VREPAIR until the errors vanish, then do it one more time for safety.
        Joe D.
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From: mcollins@db.novell.com (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: Can I use PBURST with packet drivers?
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tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik) writes:
: I know how to use the Packet Burst NLM and shell (BNETX) with ODI drivers.
: That is, I use the 'pb buffers=n' line in my net.cfg
: 
: How do I use them with Packet Drivers?
: I'm not using a net.cfg file in this particular configuration.
: Should I?

You can add the pb buffers to a shell.cfg also.

: I'm under the impression that in order to use the Packet Burst shell,
: I MUST have the 'pb buffers=n' line in my net.cfg file.
: 
: I tried creating a net.cfg file with just one line (pb buffers=2).
: However, when BNETX is invoked, I don't see a message indicating that
: I'm in packet burst mode using 2 buffers.
: 
: So, can I use PBURST with packet drivers (and if so how do I specify the
: number of buffers) or does PBURST only work with ODI drivers?

No Pburst does not only work with ODI it also works with dedicated IPX
drivers. You must be absolutely sure that the drivers you are using 
can support Burst mode protocol.

: 
: Any help would be *GREATLY* appreciated.
: 
: Thanks in advance.
: 
: --tony

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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:22:12 EDT
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From:         Ron Gittleman <MRRON@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      ODINSUP & OS/2 easy question.

So that Netware Requester and TCP/IP can live with each other, I want to
run ODINSUP. The Requester docs suggest that OSINSUP will run if you
have OS/2 ES or LS installed. I have ES but it isn't installed. My question:
Do I *have* to install ES before ODINSUP can be used?  Thanks for ideas.

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From: kirkinen@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Teo Kirkinen)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: Batch files in Login Scripts
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:08:34 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Michael_Kessler.Hum@MAILGATE.SFSU.EDU writes:
: The title says it all.  Is it possible to end a login script with a batch
: file, for example one that takes the user into dougmenu?  If so, how?  The
: books are not too clear on this subject.

Use the EXIT "BatchFileName" in your system login script or user login 
scripts. Be sure, that the batch file in the PATH because you can only
use about 13 characters in the parameter (they are stuffed in the 
keyboard buffer).
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From:         Angus Orde <A.Orde@LEEDS-POLY.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Lanschool inquiry

>I'm thinking of buying the above for classroom use but would like some
>opinions from current users of this (or similar programs) first.
>Particularly: (1) Memory - it's a TSR I presume (?) so how big? (2)
>Security: can its use be controlled? (3) Any use with Windows or any
>graphics screen (WP for Dos etc.)?

(1) It is 2 removeable TSRs of ^6 and ^10kb.

(2) There are two basic components: Teacher and Student.
    Teacher allows you to copy your screen to all YOUR students, and view
their screens (and copy their screens too if you wish).
    Student allows the associated Teacher to interact with you. If you do not
load Student, they cannot do anything.
    More than one Teacher can be operating their class separately on the same
network.

(3) Pretty rubbish for interactive graphics like Windows/DrawPerfect etc.
Graphics can be copied about, but screen refresh is slow (3 colours one after
the other to build the picture), though static pictures are fine.


>It's a rather expensive piece of software so I'd like to hear
opinions before I spring for it. TIA!

We like it.

>Tony Sheehan
>grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Cheers,

Angus.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:58:29 MDT
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From:         Rich Brown <rbrown@DIJKSTRA.UNIVNORTHCO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Execute only does not work for me

>--------Quoted-------------
>I wanted to flag two programes as "execute only". (Netware 2.2)
>
>Word 5.5 :           word.exe
>Turbo Pascal 6.0 :   turbo.exe

	there is a good deal of data stored in the exe for turbo 6.0.  As a
	result the exe is opened for read as a part of its operations.  This
	can't be done if it is execute only.  Execute monly will only allow
	the file be read for purposes of being loaded as a running image.
	Sorry this is not a whole lot you can do about this.


	Ray Todd Stevens
	Safety Dept NWSC Crane
	Ray@safety.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil
	(812) 854-3292  854-3294  854-3289
	      854-3293  854-3482
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Also worth noting:  The execute flag cannot be removed, even by a
supervisor or eq.  You must erase and re-install the file.

I just noted in the manual that the CI (copy inhibit) command is
only for Macintosh.  Apparently there is no method currently available
by flagging to prevent software from being copied?
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:54:33 EDT
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From:         "Adrian Venuti (USG - Computing Services)"
              <VENUTI@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
Subject:      Mac's on Novell - HELP!

We are thinking of connecting various Macs to our existing 10BaseT nets.

I would like to know the problems people have encountered, What software
they have been able to run from the server, whic software can't be run
from the server.

Also printer configurations etc.

Any and All help will be appreciated. If answers/responses are sent directly
to me (REPLY FROM) I will summarize and send to the list.

Thanks

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+ Adrian Venuti      User Services - Computing Services                +
+ Humber College     Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada                        +
+ Phone: (416)675-3111 x4598                                           +
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From:         weber@RHRK.UNI-KL.DE
Subject:      Re: FTP server for DougMenu

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>Hi,

>I need a FTP server address containing DougMenu.
>I tried to connect shasta.scl.cwru.edu with response like unknown server.
>I can use FTP only. Please show me the way.

dmenu168.zip

wuarchive.wustl.edu  /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS
ftp.uni-kl.de        /pub/pc/novell

There are others, too.

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr

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From:         K_CEW@VAXA.NERC-KEYWORTH.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Number Of Registered users in bindery

You will have to make sure all your servers have the correct number of free
slots, otherwise you will find that users will not be able to access certain
servers. It's usually easiest to make sure all your servers have the same
licence limit (e.g. 100 or 250)
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From:         novell@JURANET.JURIS.DBP.DE
Subject: Re: TCP/IP-Gateway for Novell 3.11

> Why NLM? If you only want to telnet and ftp from your Novell workstations
> to a Unix host, all you need is a TCP/IP package for MS-DOS - CUTCP from
> Clarkson University is a good (and free) one. We are using it for over one
> year. If you can spare one station (XT will be enough), CUTCP can also run
> as FTP server and provide FTP access to Netware mapped disks as well as to lo
cal
> disks of that station.
>


Where can I get CUTCP ?
I have no FTP access !!
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From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta)
Subject: Re: 486/33 too fast for Token Ring network?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
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Alex Breen (abreen@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: may or may not load!  I am using true blue IBM token ring cards.  My question
: is :  Is it possible that these machine are trying to do things just too
: quickly for the server?  The error I get when the drivers fail to load is:
: Error initializing token ring card.  Any suggestions would be greatly 
: appreciated.

There are quite a few revisions of the cards. We have many different
ones. The earlier cards do indeed have a problem on faster machines. If
you boot the machine in slow mode, it should be more consistant. We
have not had this problem with Everex token ring cards in the same
machines. The problem is not with the speed of the server but cards
don't get initialized correctly.
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:27:00 IST
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From:         Moshe SOlow <CUCMS@HUJIVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Loosing Network Connection

  I would check your cabling number  of Netware that you gave at the install
   with the number you gave the cisco router.
                        Moshe

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Subject:      Loosing Network Connection
To:           Multiple recipients of <NOVELERR@SUVM.SYR.EDU>


The users on our network have been experiencing the following problem:

For no reason at all they get bumped off the network with the following error;

> Network error on server ADMIN: Connection no longer valid.
> Abort/Retry?

The error seems to be happening on various machines and just started recently.
We connected a CISCO router about two weeks ago. Everything worked finefor
the first few days then this suddenly started to occur.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


John

We are running Netware 2.15c with TTS
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From:         "(John Delorey)" <jdelorey@PX4.STFX.CA>
Subject:      users names

Hi,

  I am going to have to assing real names to a pile of accounts I have recentlyy
created.  Is there a util put there that will let me take a text file with a
list of account names and real names and have it to the work.  I really dont
want to have to add 2000 names by hand!!

thanks

john
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From:         UFES@BRFAPESP.BITNET
Subject:      Pktdrv and Odi

Dear Netters,

I'm looking for tecnical informations, in or out internet, about
Packet Drivers and ODI interface.

Thanks in advance.

Gilberto Neves Sudre Filho
Ufes@fpsp.fapesp.br
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From:         Richard Letts <R.J.Letts@SALFORD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: What are good DAT drives?

Rich Chong writes....
>
>
> Has anyone seen any articles on comparisons between different
> SCSI-2 capable DAT drives? How about general preferences?
> One that caught my eye is the 8GB WANGDAT 3200 for $1700. any good?
> Is there any advantage in running the DAT right off of a Netware3.11
> server? sounds like it costs more (for the NLMs), uses up server
> resources, and has more chance in crashing the server.
> How bad is a 10mbit Ethernet bottleneck?
depends upon the type of server; an ISA Bus cannot really drive an
ethernet card at full wire speed, and you won't always get
10Mbits/second.
If your server has an MCA or EISA bus then it'll go much faster when
its inside the machine.
We use Cheyanne ArcServe (4.0), and it works. On Monday the 510MB SYS:
disk died on our departmental server. It took us an hour to restore
the data back onto the system (1 Full + 1 incremental). Compared to
'other systems' we used a year ago this is wonderful.

We used to use a Wangdat drive, but after 3 years of HARD use it
passed away. We rplaced it with a HP DAT tape drive in an external
cabinet so we could plug it into any of the systems with SCSI cards in.

We have moved away from DAT to 8mm ExaByte tape drives now; this was
the result of a CCTA (UK Government Agency) tendering process..

Richard
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