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From: st1ge@Jane.UH.EDU (Edward Hui)
Subject: Marv Cook
Reply-To: st1ge@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:01:40 GMT

    What is his status?  Is he going to start this Sunday?  Any information
appreciated.

Edward Hui
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske)
Subject: Re: Vikings vs Bears
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:15:05 GMT

heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:


>The Vikes are a better team than Detroit.  Not as much better as 4-1 
>vs 1-4 might indicate but the Vikings are definately a better team.

>They are not in the same class as Philly, Houston, or SF.  That 
>doesn't mean they couldn't pull off an upset or 2.

They are not in the same class as Green Bay, but they may very well be
in the same class as Houston or SF.  I dunno, maybe Houston and SF are in
another class because of their depth when compared to the Vikings' lack of
depth.

John Ganske
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: A Bet
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I've just noticed a "bet" made between two individuals dealing with the
Viking/lions game. I myself would like to make a "bet" of sorts also:

This goes out to any Bills fan, any dolphin fan may also join in.
The bet is simple. I proclaim that the Miami Dolphins win the AFC East.
Any Bills fan who wishes to stand up for his/her team and bet otherwise
may. However, who ever is wrong must announce so on this news group and
not be allowed to post ANYTHING on this newsgroup until the Super Bowl 
is over.

This bet is null and void Sunday Morning.
    _____________________________________________________________________
   |   Miami Dolphins and Hurricanes:        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
   |   Two of the Best teams in Football!    * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
   |_____________________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jason@cray.com (Jason Parker)
Subject: Dallas Cowboys wk6
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:36:32 CDT

(Posted on behalf of Glenn Dixon - gdixon@bozell.com)

TEAM
Dallas Cowboys (4-1)

GAME SUMMARY

          Dallas*    Seattle
Pts       27         0
Rushing   30-116     22-38
Pass Att  17-28-2    8-19-1
Pass Yds  200        79
Fum Lost  0          2
Poss        33:16      26:44

PASSING
Aikman    15-23-2  173
Beuerlein 2-5-0     27

RUSHING
Smith    22-78 TT
Aikman    1-19
Agee      3-10
Johnston  4-9

RECEIVING
Irvin   6-113
Novacek 5-22
Martin  4-45
Harper  2-20

KICKING
Elliott F (31) F 51) 2X

SACKS
Jeffcoat 2
Tolbert  2
Gant     1
J. Jones 1
R. Jones 1

INTERCEPTIONS
Horton 1

INJURIES
Bill Bates (knee)

SUMMARY NOTES
The shutout was the Cowboys' first since a 38-0 playoff win against Tampa Bay on 1/2/81, and the first  
regular season shutout since a 38-0 win over Baltimore on 9/4/78!

OTHER NOTES 

*= Home Team
P= Touchdown Pass Thrown
T= Touchdowns Scored
F= Field Goal Scored (number in parens is distance)
X= Extra Point Scored
PASSING: completions,attempts,interceptions, TD passes
-----------------------------------------------------------------------



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: So much for the best team in the NFL --- KC KiCks Eagles's ASS!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:05:31 GMT

In article <16Wy03qbabUG00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:
>Who turned all these "twisted logic" experts loose? So let me see if I got this
>straight... 
>
>1) The best team in the NFL must go undefeated or not be called such.
>
>	So the NFL has not had a champion in 20 years.. since the '72 Dolphins.
>.....
>I'm glad you guys finally straightened me out on this one. There I was thinking
>all you had to do was win most of your games, get to the playoffs, maybe win `
>the SuperBowl and you could be called the best team.  Now we all have the 
>correct knowledge that you must win ALL your games or give it up. 

You got that right, Ronnie.

That team in Miami should better keep up its 5-0 perfect record and not to lose 
a game, or it will lose its championship to the team in Washington.

You know, who says the championship is decided on the field? It must be
decided by the net.pollsters.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: So much for the best team in the NFL --- KC KiCks Eagles's ASS!
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:57:23 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct12.144303.28185@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>In article <12OCT199200452845@rigel.tamu.edu> c1h3384@rigel.tamu.edu writes:
>>I told you so. Last week in my postings, I predicted that KC would beat the
>>hell outta of the eagles, and that was exactly what happened today.
>>
>>I was not impressed by the eagles in the Monday night game against Dallas,
>>and nobody was buying it. Taking out the QB's run, what do the Eagles have?
>>Absolutely nothing! Forget about the "best team in the NFL", forget about
>>the "most complete QB in the game", that kind of statements suck! Whoever
>>says it again needs to have his/her head checked!
>>
>>Eagles are a team a little bit better than average, that is it. Eagles
>>fans, accept this fact. Otherwise your life will be miserable. Believe me!
>>
>>And I predict another loss by the Eagles to the Skins Sunday!
>>
>>BOb
>>
>
>Wow, I am actually agreeing with you! :-)  Likewise, I was not impressed
>with the Eagles performance last Monday night, and I posted as such.
>Now they lose to the Chiefs. So much for the BEST QB's.

Who turned all these "twisted logic" experts loose? So let me see if I got this
straight... 

1) The best team in the NFL must go undefeated or not be called such.

	So the NFL has not had a champion in 20 years.. since the '72 Dolphins.

2) The best QB in the league must never have a bad game nor ever lose one. And
   God forbid he ever be sacked or throw an interception. 


I'm glad you guys finally straightened me out on this one. There I was thinking
all you had to do was win most of your games, get to the playoffs, maybe win `
the SuperBowl and you could be called the best team.  Now we all have the 
correct knowledge that you must win ALL your games or give it up. 

-- 
Ronnie
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas was beaten by bad luck, not the eagles!
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:32:37 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

[Tons of stuff deleted]
Bottom line, let's not confuse bad luck with lack of execution.  Dallas didn't
execute, the Eagles did for the big plays against Dallas.  In the same vein,
The Eagles couldn't execute their way out of paper bag against the Kansas City
Chiefs.
-- 

------------------------
|   Gail A. Fullman    |
|   Manager - ADMO     |
|   Ext. 83113         |
------------------------
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles Class Acts ... NOT!
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:57:39 GMT

In article <92309@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
> Speaking of the great sense of sportsmanship that the Iggles have (like
> Randall throwing a TD pass after kneeling down twice towards the end of 
> an Iggles blowout against the Cowboys a few years back), how about Monday's
> game:
> 
> - Aikman's shoes come off. The nice Iggles DE picks it up and then tosses it
>   away.
> - The O line is called for false-start. Nice Clyde Simmons starts clapping in
>   their faces.
> - And oh who could ever forget Andre Waters' (surprise) knack for getting into
>   tiffs with the bad Cowboys.
> 
> Buddy Ryan may be gone but hi spirit still haunts the Vet.
> satish nair


Tossing away Aikman's shoe doesn't come under 'sportsmanship', it is
gamesmanship. You take every possible edge you can possibly get;
like clapping in faces, making Aikman go pick his shoe up, intimidating
opponents.. It is a brutal sport. You are not supposed to be 'nice'
to the opponents. This ain't cricket. In one of John Madden's books
[I don't remember which one], he writes a chapter on using these tactics
to upset opponents, put things in the other team's mind, etc.. 

I'll give you Waters.. he goes over the limit. But the rest of the
Eagles, they are ok in my book. 



_______________________________________________________
| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
#######################################################
From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles : YIKES!
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:04:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct7.165942.3017@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>>Ummm... I would remind you that the Eagles had 3 NFL Championships to their
>>name before the Niners even had one. The Eagles were back-to-back NFL Champs
>>in '48-'49 and Champs again in '61...
>Say What? 48-49...61...no comment.
Say what? 1981, 1984, 1988, 1989? Gloria babe, I know you still live
in the 80s....

>Yawn, Yawn, YAWN! Ross, in case in was unbeknownst to you, which is
>quite obvious, winning four games is hardly coming together. What
>does it take to enlighten you in the truth? Can't you understand that
>winning four games or winning by convincing scores does NOT mean
>jack shit unless you can sustain it. 
Well, then going 4-1 does NOT mean jack shit either.... Based on what
could you say that the 49ers' best can beat the EAgles' best?

>What I am simply attempting to
>point out to you boneheads, regardless of what the Eagles are doing 
>(or ANY team for that matter), this early in the season, is not a 
>prelude to what the final standings will be (remember the wildcard
>Raiders, winning it all?). 
Ummm.... so the favorite this year must be the wildcard Redskins. Nope,
the 49ers aren't a wildcard, so they do have a chance.

>What part of these don't you understand?  
The part that you rant and rave so much for a 4-1 team, since even 
4-0 doesn't mean jack shit.

>For the record, I also think the Eagles are playing good up to now. 
>They have an arsenal of weapons, but they have had these arsensal for a 
>couple of years now and to what end.  
Right, the 49ers have the arsenals and they haven't won the SB for 2 years.
Frustrations? no. Whining from 49ers fans? definitely.

Too bad you weren't here this past January to join Ashu and company
on the whining party.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Status of Packers' Darrell Thompson?
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:08:15 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

Anybody know if Darrell Thompson has officially been activated?  I've 
read that he's practicing but I'm unsure whether or not that means he 
can't be on IR anymore.

(Earlier I said I thought that the Pack would cut a DB to make room 
for Thompson but I didn't think it would be Billups.  BTW, Billups, 
who already had a reputation as a trouble maker is really going to 
have a bad rep now.  I heard last week that he asked to be released 
because he was unhappy with losing his starting spot to Terrell 
Buckley.  But the Packer Plus says that he publically criticized the 
play of Vinnie Clark and was released because of that.  If true, 
Billups was out of line and the Packers had no choice but to fire 
him.)

JGH
From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EAGLES, COWBOYS
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:20:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <cep7wXi00UhWM4i3V9@andrew.cmu.edu>, jw5c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeffrey Weeks) writes:
> I have read enough of this pandering shit about how good the Eagles are.
>  Lucky is more like it.  Any team that gets a triple-tipped interception
> and a fumble from an experienced reciever like an offensive lineman. 
> Cut out these flukes and the Cowboys kick Philly's vaunted defense
> around.  Don't worry you guys have no offense so enjoy being on top for
> one week.

Isn't this the same kind of crap that was posted after the Detroit Lions
demolished the Cowboys by a similar score during the regular season last
year.  "It was all luck."  "The Cowboys beat themselves."  "If they ever
play again, the Cowboys will show who the better team really is."  Well,
as we all know Dallas had that rematch with the Lions.  And I do believe
Detroit was again lucky enough to win by a very large margine.

Sure is a good thing Dallas has all this bad luck.  It would be really
boring if they continuously went 16-0 and won the SuperBowl every year.


E-A-G-L-E-S

Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
alux2!jmd
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: cfh@cbnews.cb.att.com (chuck.himmelspach)
Subject: Re: Browns News - 1st qtr review - Steeler preview
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:08:09 GMT
Summary: Don't quit your day job, Dave!

In article <dchou.718737898@husc8>, dchou@husc8.harvard.edu (David Chou) writes:
> martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Oct9.105248.9055@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
> 
> 					[ deleted... ]
> 
> >>3. Predictions:
> >>   - Pittsburgh has a strong defense and they should be able to stop the
> >>     Browns running game.  Thus the Browns will try a couple of trick
> >>     plays (ie end-arounds or halfback option passes.) A couple of 
> >>     successful trick plays will keep the defense guessing.
> 
> >Green Bay ran well against Pitt, and passed at will.  Cleveland
> >will run ok.  How's Tomczak looking?  As a Packer fan, I think
> >he's an adequate, but not great, QB.  Strock was probably a bit
> >better, Pagel a wee bit worse.
> 
> >>   - The Browns will need to go deep a couple of times so as to get the
> >>     safeties and cornerbacks away from the line of scrimmage.
> 
> >Yes.
> 
> >>   - The defense MUST stop the running game and MUST pressure the QB.
> >>     O'Donnell must be forced to pass.
> 
> >O'Donnell is easily rattled and his receivers stink.  If Cowher
> >abandons the running game prematurely (as he did when GB got a
> >small lead), the Browns will win.
> 
> Xsquueze me?  Uh...no.  I remember a guy named Graham who isn't doing too
> badly this year.  Oh, and another guy named Stone whose hands finally seems 
> to belie his name, and always had 4.2 speed.  Oh, and I understand that this
> TE named Green is scheduled to return soon, along with his buddy Adrian
> Cooper.  They just might have a small influence on the game.  Finally, poor
> O'Donnell had a career-low performance against GB last week...makes you
> want to forget all of what he did against Houston, New York, and San Deigo.
> Then again, you could be right...the plane into Cleveland might crash,
> and then since Cowher might have to abandon his running game prematurely,
> I guess the Browns would then win...
> 
> 							-Dave

Don't quit your day job, Dave (if you even have one which I doubt) cause
you sure as hell won't make any money with your prognosticating (that means
picking winners of contests).

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Browns,

Der Himmel
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: robert@landru.mtc.ti.com (Robert Treese)
Subject: Cowboys: Wright trade soon?
Organization: Manufacturing Technology Center, Texas Instruments, Dallas
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:12:16 GMT


With the activation of Jimmy Smith,  look for Ace to be traded soon
for a backup running back and some other compensation.

Robert
From: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: GET READY FOR A LOSS DOLPHANS!
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:51:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct5.110229.23691@pdn.paradyne.com>, oxley@pdn.paradyne.com (Don Oxley) writes...
>In article <BvH483.L0E@acsu.buffalo.edu> v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY) writes:
>>We in the Great White North used to be able to count on 3 things in life.
>>
>>	1.)	Death
>>	2.)	Taxes
>>	3.)	Losing to Miami twice a year

>>Hee! Hee!	My favorite game of the year! 

Since these statements remain true I will leave them posted.
As for my other terribly misguided prognostications (sp?), I officially
accept all NET flagilation (sp?) coming my way.

The Dollies played an OUTSTANDING game in one of the TOUGHEST stadiums
to play in and plain-flat out-unreservedly- WWWUUUUPPPPEEEDDD OUR BUTTS!

But I will eat my grizzle gracefully and take ant-acid tablets until
November 16th when I fully expect my team to redeam itself and knock
theDollies off their undefeated throne. (I can't see anyone capable
of defeating them before that match-up unless PRIMETIME really does
attempt to play 2 sports in a day, and ESPN seemed to indicate that
wouldn't happen)

>This dolphin's fan hopes you are not choking too much on your sizzled
>buffalo hide this morning.  Total Dolphins dominance is what I
>saw on the tube yesterday.  'Nuff said!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> 
>DonO

Enjoy it DonO, it has been a great place to be and I fully expect my team
to reclaim it at JRS in November!
Congrats!

T Mac
Peace!
From: 00jcreidy@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: JETS vs INDIANAPOLIS
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:55:26 GMT

In article <Bvuw0w.DIE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, chrislim@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Christopher Lim) writes:
> In article <1992Oct9.123853.5287@sarah.albany.edu> pc0837@sarah.albany.edu (COHEN PAUL L) writes:
>>Being a true Jets fan, my hopes for their utter destruction of the Colts
>>may be blinded. I do feel that the Jets have a satrong enough, not great, 
>>offense to score more than 20 pts against the young Colts defense.
>>However, I am worried about Indi's no-huddle offense implanted by Marchibella.
> 									^
> 									|
> It is Marchibroda and not ........... -----------------------------------
> 
>>I am interested in your comments on the Indi offense vs. the Jets defense.
>>
>>                                      -Paul
>>                                      pc0837@sarah.albany.edu

The matchup between the Colts offense and the Jets defense will be, in the
words of Wellington at Waterloo: A close run thing.  As a Colts fan, I 
expect my team to come out on the winning end of things.  However, being 
an objective football fan I must admit that the Jets will test the Colts
offense.  The Colts ability to shut down Santana Dotson and allow only
one sack against T.B was encouraging- I expect them to do the same to 
Merserau (sp.?) and company.  The addition of a good- soon to be great- QB
in Jeff George provided a lift to the sagging Colts "O".  The running game
should be able to gain ground; as I expect the Jets to concentrate on 
shutting George down.  The pass rush of the Jets in the game against
New England does give me cause for concern, however.  In short, as an 
Indy fan- Colts win 24 to 7.
					Chris
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Subject: Cowboy *POWER* Notes 
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:50:33 GMT


      Bates is out for the season with torn ligaments in his left knee 
which will require reconstructive surgery.  This will only be his 2nd
stint on IR in 10 years.   To his credit, he walked off the field, stuck
around to talk to the ST coach before heading to the showers...Tough guy...

      JJ gave game balls to K-Mart on offense, Tolbert on D, and to
Darren Woodson on ST.

      ACE was traded to the Raiders for what is speculated to be a 4th
rounder that could escalate to a 3rd based on playing time.  IMHO, this
was a great move for ACE.  LA likes to go deep, so he can use his "NFL's
Fastest Man" speed.  Plus, no knock on Marinovich, but he doesn't throw
as hard as Aikman does.  I think this gave Wright alot of trouble.  Wright's
vastly improved over his rookie year, this move will make him better.

      The 'boys now have two roster spots available.  One is Curvin Richards
when he's able to return.  Blake's weight is still down (thyroid problem), so
he won't be activated.  Michael Beasley is still on the practice team, if 
JJ wants a backup RB.  Also available is recently released LB Abrams and 
Mickey Pruitt for ST players.  Another possiblity is DShepard for KR.

      RJones knocked out Seattle's Dan McGwire for the season.  McG suffered
a fractured hip and a bruised shoulder on the play...

Sources: Dallas Morn. News + radio talk shows

-- 
If I could, I'd slow the whole world down*I'd bring it to its | Pat Power
knees*I'd stop it spinnin' round*But as it is, I'm climbing   | My opinions only
up an endless wall*No time this time, No time at all          |
       - The Police, "No Time This Time"                      | Da Boyz are back!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NFL_1992 Scoreboard: Playoff Forecasts
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:18:53 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

The computer program's predictions for the 1992 NFL playoffs have changed
again from last week.  Will there be a Super Bowl rematch?

As of today, the computer program predicts:

AFC Championship: Houston vs. Buffalo
NFC Championship: Washington vs. San Francisco

Super Bowl: Washington vs. Buffalo

Super Bowl Champion: WASHINGTON REDSKINS
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Should Marv Levy Be Fired?
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:51:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct6.183219.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes...
>> 
>> Saturday, Dec 15     Buf @ NYG 17 13  BILLS WIN
>> Sunday, Jan 27       NYG v Buf 20 19  BILLS CHOKE
>> 
>> The Bills won in NY, on the road, and Frank Reich played half the game.
>> Although Simms and Horsesitter also split the game.
>> 
>> Then the Bills lost at a neutral site, missing the game winning field
>> goal by a few feet...
> 
>      I certainly hope you don't think Buffalo was a better team that year.

	Yes, they _were_ the better team that year.  They beat the Giants at
home.  You know what they call a win by 3 points?  A BIG win, seeing as how it
was an away game.    

>When they played the most important game in the season they failed. You know
>what they call a loss by one point? A loss. When the chips were down the
>better team won. Just because the Bills tend to score quickly doesn't mean
>they are a better team.                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
	Nowhere in the argument was that point brought up.  It's irrelevant.


>                  -doug THE dolfan-
> 


Jonny B.

P.S. -- and YES, using my argument, you can say Miami is better than Buffalo
right now, seeing as how they beat us at home.  We shall see what happens at
Joe Robbie on MNF.