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From: ptyshih@watnow.waterloo.edu (Paul T.Y. Shih (Taku or Pear))
Subject: Re: Gin Jong fans' chellenge!! (was Re: The Six-Year National ...)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:35:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.193148.26259@cs.dal.ca> xwang@ug.cs.dal.ca (Roland (Xinlei) Wang) writes:
>        You are right, I also haven't known that much about this things, 
>	although I am coming from that place. Actually, I really don't 
>	want to know. But the point here is that I will not make so much
>	comments to things I don't know exactly, what do you think? 
>
>	I like Gin Yong's novels and read them many times. But I that could
>	give you ideas about everything. I don't think that's a good idea 
>	to find someone in his novels to represent someone else in the world.
>	You know, that is only novel. That's my opinio, thanks.
>
	
	Yes, we should make comments on things we don't know, especially
	things concerning to someone's fame or family name. There's not
	thing different between us. Maybe I am just lucker born in a 
	country that has more freedom, and I surely hope that people in
	mainland can enjoy the freedom someday....

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From: bbs@medsys.rn.com (Public BBS System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: For Mr. Chou1 at BBS
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:33:56 GMT
Reply-To: bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System)
Distribution: na
Organization: Med-Systems, Kingsport, Tennessee

In article <1992Apr4.9567.9567@cel.SRI.COM> hsieh@cel.SRI.COM (Mark Hsieh) writes:
>
>Please give me your e-mail address. I don't know your e-mail address.
>

Simple. My e-mail address is bbs@medsys.rn.com. Isn't that what appears in 
the header?

Chou1
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: bbs@medsys.rn.com (Public BBS System)
Subject: Re: Gin Jong fans' chellenge!! (was Re: The Six-Year National ...)
Reply-To: bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System)
Organization: Med-Systems, Kingsport, Tennessee
Date: 17 Apr 1992 00:39:54 GMT

In article <dyang.703381711@cunews> dyang@aaron.carleton.ca (Dong Yang) writes:
>So many people have been trying so hard to find some roles, in Jin
>Yong's novels, who could fit Mr. Scott Horne.  I doubt that Mr. S.H
>has read these articles even once.  This fact is also interesting to
>me.
>

Probably because he has never read Jin Yong's novels. You know, those
feudal poisons do nothing but contaminate people's thought and spirit.

Chou1
From: mcyang@pollux.usc.edu (Bien-Chao Yeun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: advice to Mr. Joe Wang
Date: 6 Apr 1992 16:01:32 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

>In article <ksvjm4INNel3@pollux.usc.edu> mcyang@pollux.usc.edu (Bien-Chao 
Yeun) writes:
>>There are several indian nations inside the U.S.   Do you want to tell
>>us that there are many "Guo" inside Mei-Guo ?
>>Guo means state !

In article <69132@ut-emx.uucp> joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang) writes:
>If this were true then no one would be talking about PRC and ROC being
>part of one "guo" right now, yet that's how many people think of it.

You are not answering the question, are you ?

You said that Gua means nation and you also know that there are
several Indian nations inside the U.S.   I know you know it !

Now come the question AGAIN !

	Do you want to tell us that there are many "Guo" inside
	"Mei-Guo"(the U.S.)  ?

Be honest and sincere and you might be able to earn some respect.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:7294 soc.culture.china:12666
From: jkh3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jerry K Huang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Taiwan, Republic of China
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:41:37 GMT
Reply-To: jkh3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jerry K Huang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <kuc0djINNqb6@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.202842.3466@nic.umass.edu> (Peter Hawkins) writes:
>>
>>yet another instance of the horne-insanity........ :)
>>
>>In article <1992Apr10.164432.3493@cs.yale.edu> (Scott Horne) writes:
>>><
>>>The government of Taiwan Province is the PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA.
>
>A republic nation is a nation governed by the people.
>So, people's republic is a republic.
>The People's Republic of China is Republic of China.
>The government of Taiwan Province is under Republic of China.

A republic nation is a nation governed by that nation. A republic  state
is a state consists of different nations. 
The People's Republic of China is a republic state. However, the republic
state's nations are not governed by their own nations. 

The government of Taiwan Province is under Republic of China only when
Republic of China has the ability to make the world believe in it. Nor 
does the People's Republic of China part of Republic of China because
normal people won't buy it. 

However, when you trie to buy some respect from some homeless people,
supposed that your actions can buy it, it is not suggested to any Taiwanese
by telling the homeless that you are from Republic of China, but instead
from, simply, Taiwan, so that they won't get confused. On the contrary, if
you ever mention a word pronounced like "china", I guess most people in US 
will be likely to get confused that you're from China. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: TJFAN@WATSON.IBM.COM
Subject: Re: Gin Jong fans' chellenge!! (was Re: The Six-Year National ...)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 19:35:12 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In  <1992Apr9.125027.13109@cbfsb.cb.att.com>  ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu) writes:
>      In addition, many roles in Gin Jong's novels have been projected
>      to many politicans in recent history. Are there any one who want
>      to do this for any well-known people today? To have more fun out
>      of this, don't restrict yourselves to Chinese/Taiwanese (e.g, is
>      there any role similar to Edward Kennedy?).
>  
Let me try the following:
 
CHARACTERS                       NOVEL TITLE             PROJECTION
Shing1 Su4 Law3 Gwai4            Tien1 Long2 8 Bu4       Mao Tse-Dung
Shing1 Su4's students            Tien1 Long2 8 Bu4       Red Guards
Dong1 Fung1 Bu2 Bai4             Shiaw4 Au4 Jiang1 Hu2   Mao in his late age
Yang2 Lien2 Ting2                Shiaw4 Au4 Jiang1 Hu2   Jiang1 Ching1 (Mao's wife)
Tzuo3 (left) Leng3 (cold) Chan2  Shiaw4 Au4 Jiang1 Hu2   CKS
Yue4 Bu4 Chun2                   Shiaw4 Au4 Jiang1 Hu2   Deng4 Shiaw3 Ping2
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Babbling in the middle of a tea break
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:52:38 GMT
Reply-To: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Hardware Engineering

Tell me if I get this picture completely wrong, or even out-right
ludicrous.  Is the following an accurate observation on women's 
stages of psychological development in their male idolizing?

1) 14 ~ 18, handsome kids with a heart breaking sweet face that of a singer,
   or a movie star.
2) 19 ~ 21, deadly romanticists who would defy convention and determine to 
   conquer the world.  They are the idealists and the poets.
3) 21 ~ , financially secured and materially abundant.

These are merely my observations.  I have no intention to degrade women
or offend our ladies on the net.  Actually, men's growth of their maturity
, if there is any, is even worse.  

"What is the difference between a treasury bond and men?"
Treasury bond matures.

No flame please.  I don't mean to slander men either since I am a member of
such gender.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: infiniti@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Chung-Yih Lee)
Subject: Re: Control?! (The Six-Year...)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 23:53:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.223753.29387@watserv1.waterloo.edu> ptyshih@watnow.waterloo.edu (Paul T.Y. Shih (Taku or Pear)) writes:

>	Well said! I dunno why there are so many people out there
>	blinding their eyes with their hands, deafing their ears
>	with their finger. Most of the people in Taiwan proudly
>	regard themselves as citizens of R.O.C.. It's ok if you
>	stand in downtown Taipei and say "I don't like KMT at all"
>	, nobody will care, maybe someone will even join you. But
>	if anyone in the same place say "I hate R.O.C.", ha, you 
>	might be beaten by people to death unless policemen come 
>	and rescue you. I have lots foreigner friends here who
>	are from Russia, Norway, Japan, Korea...and they all know
>	that I am from Taiwan, a citizen of Republic of China.
>
>	Paul

	I don't know about that, man. First of all, don't think the police will
come rescue you. Secondly, you seem really happy to see the poor guy beaten to
death by people. (I don't know what that implies... I suppose you would really
be willing to join in if you have a chance...) Lastly, some of us here also
have foreign friends. Maybe after you keep drumming into their ears the word
"ROC ROC ROC ROC" they might also try to memorize the name just to please you.
From: leewu@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Lee Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: babysitter
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:20:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.rv30nINNjr8
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu

A Chinese couple are looking for an honest and responsible Chinese 
female as a babysitter to help take care of a two-year old boy and  
a one-year old girl.  Hours from 7:00am to 4:00pm Monday through
Friday.  Compensations are furnished room and board.  Walk to 
El Cerrito Plaza BART station.  This position is ideal for a 
young UCB female student who wants to attend evening classes.
Must love children.
If interested, please call Mrs. Wu @ (510) 643-6928 or reply
to email at leewu@diva.  Mandarin or Cantonese speaking prefered.
Thanks for your attention.
From: hhwu@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (eric.wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: NON-POLITICAL Gin1 Young's novels
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:48:52 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr08.161930.74037@watson.ibm.com> TJFAN@WATSON.IBM.COM writes:
>I believe it is in the Ming Dynasty based on the following reasons:

>    the CEO of Er2 May2, Mieh4 Gueh2 (Killing-All) Dau4 Jang3, was the 3rd or
         ^^^
I like this translation.  I was thinking about boss but CEO is better. 

>    called the emperor One4 Suay4 (10,000 years), which was used in the Ming
>    Dynasty. In the Ching Dynasty, I believe people called their emperors

I would say it is Ming Dynasty unless the descriptions on the general 
Linq Hwu Chong impersonated and his title contradict to Ming terminology.

By the way, that section is my favorite in the book.

Eric
From: jclei@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Lei)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Best High School in Taiwan (Was Re: HSNU needs you!)
Summary: See the text
Keywords: high school
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:00:14 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.taiwan
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr15.212125.17050@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> shihtsun@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Shih-tsun Alex Chou) writes:
>	Just a reminder for fairness: there were three high schools'
>alumni claimed their senior high is the best of Taiwan on this newsgroup.


And all of the three schools are located in Taipei.


Jason (an alumnus of The Kaohsiung Senior High School)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:7397 soc.culture.china:12921
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Most Ridiculous ? (Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C")
Keywords: No
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:18:14 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Apr14.005415.17863@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr13.034117.27980@acs.ucalgary.ca> bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:
>>>>(BTW, I think that there is a good case to be made
>>>>that the present prosperity of Taiwan occurred not
>>>>because of the KMT, but that at least initially, 
>>>>the KMT was an obstacle to development...
>>>
>>>Hi , Luc , I am not fully agree with you at this point . Taiwan's
>>>developement is FACTUAllY due partly to the intellectuals and the gold
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>taken by KMT around 1949 . Otherwise the developement would have been 
>>>much slower . Think of Philipine , you may know what I am saying .
>>>
>
>1. How many professors and engineerers had moved to Taiwan at the time ? How many
>universities were built after that ? How many excellent intellectuals left for
>Taiwan ?

Funny, when talking about China, that the word "intellectuals" keeps
pooping up...  When you talk about the US, I doubt that you ever
used the word.

Seems to me, what you really mean is a specifically Chinese
phenomenon, the present day translation of the social 
equivalent to those folks who had passed the Imperial
Examination, and thus qualified for their share of the loot,
right?  

So, I can't help, but I tend to understand the word as
describing some sort of intellectual hooker, who trades his
knowledge and credibility for a share of the tax money, 
who gets paid not to be critical of the system...

So, it seems to me that if there is one thing Mao was right
about, it's that the intellectuals are an obstacle to
development...

>  2. Do you think Taiwan had better basis to develope so fast ? ( In resourses and 
>geography , as well as background)

Well, the infrastructure left was the Japanese was pretty
good, compared to the mainland...   That definitely
helped  (but it especially helped the KMT crooks to get
rich..)

>  3. How much of the gold reserve was transfered to Taiwan through warships ? 

I am sure there was gold transferred out of China.  But how long
do you think it stayed in Taiwan on its way to Switzerland?

So, if your point is that Taiwan was in better conditions
than the mainland, yes I would agree.

But if you say it's because the KMT was a honest and
judicious administrator, I would strongly disagree, at least until
the death of Chiang.

Luc B.
From: ptyshih@watnow.waterloo.edu (Paul T.Y. Shih (Taku or Pear))
Subject: Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C"
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:13:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.151347.23221@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.034117.27980@acs.ucalgary.ca> bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:
>>(BTW, I think that there is a good case to be made
>>that the present prosperity of Taiwan occurred not
>>because of the KMT, but that at least initially, 
>>the KMT was an obstacle to development...
>>
>
>Hi , Luc , I am not fully agree with you at this point . Taiwan's
>developement is FACTUAllY due partly to the intellectuals and the gold
>taken by KMT around 1949 . Otherwise the developement would have been 
>much slower . Think of Philipine , you may know what I am saying .
>
>>
>>Luc

	This is the most rediculous joke so far this year. Thanks for 
	entertaining us....

	Paul

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ptyshih@watnow.waterloo.edu (Paul T.Y. Shih (Taku or Pear))
Subject: Re: Control?! (The Six-Year...)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:38:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.235300.1499@leland.Stanford.EDU> infiniti@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Chung-Yih Lee) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.223753.29387@watserv1.waterloo.edu> ptyshih@watnow.waterloo.edu (Paul T.Y. Shih (Taku or Pear)) writes:
>
>>	Well said! I dunno why there are so many people out there
>>	blinding their eyes with their hands, deafing their ears
>>	with their finger. Most of the people in Taiwan proudly
>>	regard themselves as citizens of R.O.C.. It's ok if you
>>	stand in downtown Taipei and say "I don't like KMT at all"
>>	, nobody will care, maybe someone will even join you. But
>>	if anyone in the same place say "I hate R.O.C.", ha, you 
>>	might be beaten by people to death unless policemen come 
>>	and rescue you. I have lots foreigner friends here who
>>	are from Russia, Norway, Japan, Korea...and they all know
>>	that I am from Taiwan, a citizen of Republic of China.
>>
>>	Paul
>
>	I don't know about that, man. First of all, don't think the police will
>come rescue you. Secondly, you seem really happy to see the poor guy beaten to
>death by people. (I don't know what that implies... I suppose you would really
>be willing to join in if you have a chance...) Lastly, some of us here also
>have foreign friends. Maybe after you keep drumming into their ears the word
>"ROC ROC ROC ROC" they might also try to memorize the name just to please you.
	
	Interesting! Are you from Taiwan? If you are from Taiwan, then
	I dunno why you doubt about the first point. Policemen in Taiwan
	might not be the best in the world, but I think they are definitely
	above average. (Better than U.S. police, I would say) Second, I
	didn't say I am happy to see anyone beaten by anyone else, but if
	that "poor guy" insult my country, I won't beat him (or her) up, 
	but I won't try to rescue him if he got beaten by some one else. 
	I don't believe that you feel good if someone insult your parents
	or families in front of you, so what does this imply?

	Last of all, the question you asked shows that you have no
	idea what friendship is. You certainly don't have to please
	your friends by memorizing their nationalities. And normally
	chatting with your friends, you wouldn't keep on mention your
	nationality as well, unless you are someone like that Scott kid.
	Well, if you are someone like the Scott kid, then I think you can
	only have friends like Li-peng then...;^)

	Paul
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ioguo@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (OA Guo)
Subject: Re: What is article 100?  VERY POLITICAL
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 17 Apr 1992 14:52 EDT  

In article <1992Apr17.125909.2969@vax.muskingum.edu>, ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu writes...
>In article <1992Apr16.103942.11881@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
> 
>> Article 100, nowadays in Taiwan, generally refer to the article 100 of
>> the criminal code.  It punishes people who are judged to have seditious
>> intensions and behaviors without using force and violence.  Judges and
>> prosecuters are free to draw the line; for example, joining communist
>> party was a seditious behavior but no longer is one while the law has
>> not been changed. 
> 
>> Most people convicted through this law have been political prisoners.
> 
>	** The real question here should be:
> 
>	   What is "Political Prisoner"?
> 
>	   Bush is now in power, Clinton againsts him. But Clinton
>	   should not be a political prisoner.
> 
>	   CKS was in power, Mao againsted him. We now can say:
>	   CKS should put Mao into prison way before he had
>	   chance of upheaval. If CKS did that, Mao *would be*
>	   a political prisoner. We now can say: Mao should be
>	   a political prisoner. 
> 
>	   Since we don't know how would history develop, so we can
>	   say: if a regime convicts someone as a political prisoner,
>	   he would have 50% chance doing the right thing.
> 
>	   From this point of view, The Article 100 is not bad at all. 

   WOW!!! Eric, you alway amaze me on your logic.  Try this:
   Someone killed a baby.  He has a theory about why.  He said this baby
   may grow up to be a bad guy so he killed him.  We never know how
   the history would develop so he has 50% of doing the right thing.
   From your point of view this guy is not bad at all.

   I said again you seem to have a mental block on democracy AND logic.
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OA Guo                        |My statement does not reflect NASA's point of
NASA - Lewis Research Center  |view.  Nor should NASA's statements reflect
Cleveland, Ohio               |my point of view.
From: ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:00:40 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <kusjilINNfor@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu>, pcli@uivlsi.csl.uiuc.edu (Ping-Chung Li) writes:

> 	Talking about Lin-Don, I heard a shiang4-shen1, in which Wei4 lung2
> hao2 (maybe him) mentioned Lin-Don is the most useful bus in Taipei, wherever
> you want to go, Lin-Don can take you there. Although this is a bit exaggerated,
> Lin-Don does cover much area of Taipei, Last year they even extended Lin-Don
> to Don-Hu (in Nei4 Hu2 Chiu1), it's great, my family just moved to Nei Hu.8-)

	** After many years in US, once I was back and took 0-east to an
	   office near the Taipei Gym. I forgot how 0-east works and
	   took the one of wrong direction.

	   Well, I got there anyway after about 1.5 hr. It was still
	   enjoyable because it took me see the other 4/5 of Taipei.
From: jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Junior High
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:39:56 GMT


In <92106.005557U49110@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U49110@uicvm.uic.edu>
writes:

>Since the high school issues were brought up to our attention recently,
>I would like to dig a little bit "deeper":
>
>I was told that before the entrance exam for junior high schools was
>eliminated, whenever there was an anniversary party for the
>Da4-Ton2-Zhon1-Hsuie2 (Da4-Ton2 Junior High School) at Taipei,
>Jian4-Zhon1 would cancel all classes in order to let their students
>attend the party.   Was it true?

Give me a break, would you? :-)
In my class, 15 were from Da4 Tong2, 8 were from Wan4 Hua2 Zhong1
Xue2, 6 were from Cheng2 Yuan1, 4 were from Da4 An1, and many
others were from Miao2 Li4, Xin1 Zhu2, Tai2 Zhong1, Tai2 Nan2.
I remember those numbers because in those days, the student
ID number was arranged based on the schools where one was from
(e.g., the Datong'ers would be 1-15, Wanhua'ers would be 16-23,
etc.).

I also remember those days when we Taipei'ers fought with those
"Xia4 Gang3 Ren2" (Lower-port people) in the class room. :-) We
would also make fun of each other's accent, both the accents of
Minanese and Madarin. :-)

>One more question for "young" Jian4-Zhon1-ers:  Do you guys still
>have your high school initiation ceremony/training held in Bei3-Yau1's
>Musical Hall like we did, gee, about twenty/fifteen year ago ?

When did this ever become a tradition? The orientation ceremony
in Taipei's First Girl's High? No way! In my days, it was held in
the "Huang2 Sa1 Gun3 Gun3" (yellow-sand) court of Jian4 Zhong1.

I remember those days in "Hong2 Lou2" (Red Chamber) where we had
our "Hong2 Lou2 Meng4" (The dream of red chamber). I also
remember the "Ming2 Dao4 Lou2" (Mingdao building) (Zheng4 Qi2
Xin1 Bu2 Ji4 Qi2 Li4 [?] and Ming2 Qi2 Dao4 Bu2 Ji4 Qi2 Gong1),
and the Wooden building (Mu4 Lou2) which was so dangerous and
eventually had to be torn down.

Ah, those good old days.


-James Ou
A boy who was born and brought up in M'ang Ga in Taipei and who
went to Wan4 Hua2 Chu1 Zhong1 and Jian4 Zhong1 and married a
graduate of Bei3 Yi1 Nyu3. :-)