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From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Samantha Fox' greatest hits?
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:12:19 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

In article <By6q4I.12D@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> blanchar@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard) writes:
>  Yes it was released here, but how can they make a Greatest Hits when
>  she never had any hits, let alone any "greatest" hits.  :)

One could make the same claim about Akina Nakamori, my friend - and
she's on her *second* greatest hits album. Ms. Fox didn't do too poorly
for herself in the UK/Europe (however I may feel about her work). Your
Amerocentrism is showing, which is all the more embarrassing for someone
who claims to be an Elton John/Queen fan (given the number of Queen
hits which never made it as well here). Our readership is wider, as
well as broader, than we sometimes remember. This is, of course, what
the problem turned out to be with the "alternative" music group, and a
posting list seems to bear out the European complaint that it was 
actually a list for American undergrads who watched 120 minutes and
listened to the tremendously varied playlists enforced by CMJ (in my
opinion, of course).

--
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The television/crumples into a white dot as the last/train of the evening - my
train, is announced/I lived in one place. I want to die in another 608-828-3385
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:38:36 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Nov18.233424.2539@pellns.alleg.edu> mcadamw@coch11.alleg.edu (William McAdams) writes:
> This a complete non-sensical bullshit. It is bad enough that you do not  
>know what you're talking about, but by trying to "intellectualize" it, you  
>come across as an even bigger moron.

I have this vision of some guy sitting at his terminal at an .edu site, 
reading news late into the night, munching on Fritos.  He drops the bag,
mutters "shit", and bends over to clean up the mess, just before a 16-ton
weight labeled "Danger: Satire" crashes down on his chair, narrowly missing
him.  The corn chip mess cleaned up, he returns to musing over the 
non-sensical postings these obvious neanderthals keep posting to the 
newsgroup he's been enjoying so much for the past week.  The 16 Ton weight
disappears into the night, only to reappear at psuvm, where it claims
18 lives.

Creepy stuff.




-- 
Ray Shea                               I woke up this morning,
UniSQL, Inc.                           all my shrimps was dead and gone...
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Lead singer of Cause & Effect died?
Keywords: argh
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:32:26 GMT

    I heard on Monday morning's edition of MTV Music News that the lead singer
of Cause & Effect had died of cardiac arrest at the age of 23 last week...
The band was on tour with Information Society.

    Can anyone give me more info?  IMHO this band's first album was easily
one of the best first albums I've heard in a LOOOONG time, and I will sorely
miss the future releases I was expecting from them.

--
   Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
      "Who can doubt that pleasure is the only goal of a reasoned life?"
                                                   -- Epicurus
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From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Subject: Re: I am curious
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:27:41 GMT

Here's my response: instead of giving us a useless list of bands and
artists that you think are the Very Best, why don't you give us some
infotainment.  For example, why do you like these artists?  What kind
of music do they play?  Are they important, in your mind, in the
history and development of popular music?  Why?  Why not?  What are
the recordings you'd recommend if someone wanted to find out more
about one or more of these artists?

-dx
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From: mckinzie@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark McKinzie)
Subject: Re: Top 4 Heroin songs of all time
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 02:03:09 GMT

malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>So let's see, my top 4 songs about heroin (I couldn't think of 10):
>James Chance - "King Heroin"  - I'm rating this as teh top one because
>                                the singer was such a junkie at the time he's
>                                able to add an element of truth and pain in
>                                this rendition.
>James Brown -  "King Heroin"  - almost, but not quite as intense.            
>Velvet Underground - "Heroin" - personally I prefer Lou Reed's later epic
>                                tribute to amphetamines, METAL MACHINE MUSIC.  
>Nina Hagen -   "Slapjack" (I may have the title wrong) - What can I say, Nina
>                                                         is incredible...

Queen - "Dragon Attack"  
Steve Vai - "Junkie"      (Both mediocre songs, saved by Godly guitarists.)


-- 
Mark McKinzie          |    Listen, if they're going to buy lunch boxes,
mckinzie@math.wisc.edu | they might as well buy David Cassidy lunch boxes.
UW Dept. of Mathematics|
Madison, WI 53706      |                  -David Cassidy-
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Name This Tune..... Please :)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:42:08 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <92327.114217MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (M.A. Murphy) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.182118.4380@panix.com>, schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) says:
>>
>>Beast of Burden, from the SOME GIRLS album.
>>Anyone have the original cover with Lucille Ball, et al?
>
>Yup.  Is there something you'd like to know about it?  Or are you
>just opening a window for some of us to show off?

No; yes.
:-)


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: bigstar@hardy.u.washington.edu (J Paschel)
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:45:50 GMT

glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) writes:

>ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:

>>Where, in fact, are any black artists at all, on this list of Top 10 
>>Bands of genres created and influenced, for the most part, by black 
>>musicians?

>I've been wondering why this has never been discussed on this BBS.

>>[...] (as if Rush's musicianship could hold a candle to John
>>Coltrane's quartet of the early 60's [...]

>HEY!  Coltrane's lyrics can't TOUCH Niel Peart's.  All the guy could
>come up with is A LOVE SUPREME repeated over and over and over.

>How can you compare that to lyrics written by a guy with a PhD in
>theosophy?  Know what, Mr. Shea?  NOT EVEN A COMPLETE SENTENCE!!!!

This is hands down the funniest post I have ever seen in my limited 2-3
years of Net activity...The last time I encountered the "RUSH are so
intellectual argument" was in Woodshop in 1979.  The same guy who was
telling me how Neil Pert was the greatest living poet later sanded 1/4" of
skin off of his fingertips on the belt sander.


-- 
"Life is that which dies when you stomp on it." - Mark Tilden, BEAM Robotics

                 --=={{ bigstar@u.washington.edu }}==--
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: horan@cherry11.cray.com (Rick Horan)
Subject: Re: all-star dead band
Originator: horan@cherry11
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:34:51 CST


In article <92323.221229MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
> Hmm...  For some reason I feel compelled to add to this thread this
> time around.  Dunno how many times I've seen it come up before and
> just browsed others posts.  Here are my additions.  Imagine the
> chorus with all the vocalists!  Bators, Thunders and D. Boon can
> assist Sid Vicious in whatever duties they can find in this assemblage.
> 

say, how did stiv bators die? i remember seeing him with dead boys and
lords of the new church.

if you are going to add him, why not add darby crash of the germs.
did anyone see decline of western civilization? he was kinda pathetic.
-- 
==============================================================================
rick horan                         
cri			              
horan@cherry.cray.com
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: The Soon-To-Be-Death of Rec.Music.Misc
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:58:45 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

Michael Silverman writes:
>If people like Ray Shea ever take over this newsgroup, then we all
>might as well kill it, because people like him, who jump on
>everything they disagree with, and strike at people unprovoked
>are the kind of people who shouldn't post to news until they become
>civilized in their behavior. A constructive flame (or
>constructice criticism ) is fine, but Ray seems to just
>enjoy turning his little flamethrower on full blast and
>shooting randomly at those he disagrees with.

Again. You sure can't have been reading Ray for very long, kid. I'd
say that things aren't at all endangered; one just gets accustomed to
the seasonal return of some tired old saws when the new pack of kids
get their new logins. The expectation of the newsgroup being "taken over"
is right up there with the assumption that a "top ten bands of all time"
would even exist. The newsgroups is in the hands of anyone who posts.
Period. The question is rather "will *you* be reading it?" Long as there
are occasional articles like "the Soft Machine Discography" and so forth,
I'll be here, smiling happily when I recognize some of those evil names
on the header. So hey - how about a "A Guide to Rush for the Unconverted"
article instead of this nonsense? If you can choke down on the superlatives
and pronouncements of Godless greatness, a bunch of us might actually
go and listen to what you suggest.

Have a nice day.
--
-The world exhausts everything except my eyes/because it is a long walk to the
world/begun before I was born. In the far corner/the dead woman bows off stage
The television/crumples into a white dot as the last/train of the evening - my
train, is announced/I lived in one place. I want to die in another 608-828-3385
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Subject: Re: The "Musicality of Dancing" (Was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:19:34 GMT

(soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty) writes:

> >what are you saying here... i hope it's not that for music to be good you
> >have to ba able to dance to it... NOT!!!!!!! try dancing to Pink Floyd or
> >The Who it tends to be rather difficult..
> 
> Really?  As someone who has spent many happy hours bouncing around the
> room to "My Generation" and "Lucifer Sam", I'm not sure I agree.

Not to mention that Pete Townshend's 'Face the Face' is one of my own
favourite 'white' dance songs of all time (note careful subjective
wording there!). I just *can't* sit still when I hear it.

> "How could I dance with another/When I saw him standing there"  --Tiffany

Nobody in these threads has made any remarks yet about soren's .signature.
I am sure it is only a question of time, but quite frankly, the suspense
is driving me nuts...

-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: The best Japanese experimental rock and Klezmer albums of the month
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:16:41 GMT


Just a quick note on a couple of things which really caught my 
ear over the past few weeks ...

Omoide Hatoba's new album, "Black Hawaii" (Alchemy) is absolutely
extraordinary.  The only points of reference I can offer are Can
and Faust, but not for any peculiarity of sound, just for the level
of imagination and audacious creativity.

I don't think I can do the sound of the album much justice.  While 
there are some hard and driving rhythms their intensity tempo and
meter vary not only from cut to cut but often many times within
the same song.  Japanese-psychedelic guitar is prominent, but the
kitchen-sink approach to timbre is what makes the album so remarkable.
One of the very best cuts features a pounding bass line with flute
and swirling organ on top.  Imagine Sun Ra jamming with the Ruins in
Czukay's studio. 

Listening to this I found myself depressed about how pedestrian most
American rock is by comparision.  Time to face facts: Western Culture
is over.

The Klezmatic's "Rhythm and Jews" (Flying Fish), on the other hand, has 
made me very happy all week.  Like the New Klezmer Trio this outfit brings
considerable chops to the form.  The Klezmatics also extend the forms a
bit but tend not to introduce so many new materials.  That makes their
achievement all the more remarkable.  The music here swings like crazy
without the slightest reference to jazz and features some very clever
arrangements.  A good album for anyone who thinks that this stuff all
sounds alike: it features not only a very delicate and moving setting
of text from the Song of Solomon, but also music for Carl Stalling's
bar mitzvah.

-- Clay
      	  "Existence is existence throughout all of existence."
				-- Stephen Grossman
From: croth@scott.skidmore.edu (catherine roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: elvis costello
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:50:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: scott.1992Nov16.185024.7241
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

does anyone know all of the words to either "alison" or "almost
blue"?  they are my two favorite elvis costello songs and i'm tired of
trying to figure them out.
                                           cathy roth
                                           skidmore college
                                           saratoga springs, ny
From: S.E.Rigden@newcastle.ac.uk (Simon Rigden)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: NAME THIS BAND (probably HM)
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:08:16 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU


 Hi.

 Can anyone out there PLEASE tell me who first made the song :

                    "CRAZY HORSES" ????

 I've got a cover version but noone seems to know who wrote it orginally.

 Thanks (S.E.Rigden@ncl.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: sluka@stoch.fmi.uni-passau.de (Bernd Sluka)
Subject: CHART: Austrian Top 20 Singles
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:25:27 GMT

AUSTRIAN TOP 20 SINGLES - SUNDAY, 15.11.1992


   TW   LW      TITLE                           ARTIST

    1    1      Birthday song                   POWER PACK
    2    2      Sweat                           INNER CIRCLE
    3    5      Don't you want me               FELIX
    4    4      Baker street                    UNDERCOVER
    5    3      Raumschiff Edelweiss            EDELWEISS
    6    6      It's my life-Remix              DR. ALBAN
    7   18      Koa Hitamadl                    HUBERT VON GOISERN
    8    9      Connected                       STEREO MC'S
    9    8      Iko iko                         UNIQUE 2
   10    7      ABBA-esque                      ERASURE
   11   12      Ebeneezer good                  THE SHAMEN
   12   11      One love                        DR. ALBAN
   13   17      Heading for a fall              VAYA CON DIOS
   14   10      How do you do                   ROXETTE
   15   14      Unsquare dance                  JAM THE HOUSE FEAT. PRINCESS
   16   19      Erotica                         MADONNA
   17   20      Dance Mephisto                  FALCO
   18   16      Achy breaky heart               BILLY RAY CYRUS
   19   13      Just another day                JON SECADA
   20   23      Too much love will kill you     BRIAN MAY

TW: this week
LW: last week

                The amount of records sold and the amount of tickets sold
                does not tell you whether or not music is good.

                                                          --- Frank Zappa
--
Bernd Sluka
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
University of Passau
DW-8390 Passau
Germany
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From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp)
Subject: Cave/McGowan Christmas Song???
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:00:16 GMT



Does anyone have any information on a Nick Cave/Shane McGowan
Christmas-themed collaboration?  It is due out in about
two weeks, and I am curious as to its content.




Matthew N. Sharp
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:19:20 GMT

falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood) writes:

>good point... then we no longer perceive white and it ceases to exist...
>once you cannot remember something it no longer exists which is one of the
>bases for some older religion's (i don't remember i think it was roman)
>beleif in eternal life... as long as you are remembered you are still
>alive... so the goal in life was for you to be remembered and the best
>thing you could do for a dead person was to remember them and pass on their
>memory...

Yeah, it's like I told this old dude the other day ... everything resembles
everything else up to a point.  There is a sense in which white resembles
black, and hard soft, and so on with all other things that present the
most contrary appearances.  Even the parts of the face, which we described
earlier as having different functions and not being like each other, have
a certain resemblance and are like each other in some way.  So by your
method you can prove, if you want to, that they too all resemble one another.

I have to admit that he had some wicked arguments against me, though.

-- Clay
		"Man is the measure of all things."
	 			-- Niel Peart
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: sekell@bb1t.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Lead singer of Cause & Effect died?
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:21:14 GMT

In article <trussell.722122346@cwis>, trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes:
>     I heard on Monday morning's edition of MTV Music News that the lead singer
> of Cause & Effect had died of cardiac arrest at the age of 23 last week...
> The band was on tour with Information Society.

	Tuesday night (11/17) I attended what was supposed to be a performance 
of Information Society with Cause and Effect as the opening act at Evolution in 
St. Louis. I didn't hear anything advertised in advance about the C&E not 
playing, and nothing was said at the door nor prior to the show. However, a
local act, Suave Octopus, opened the show. During the break, a rumor that
a member of C&E had died due to a severe asthma attack was circulating in the
crowd. 

	Does anyone know anything further? Does anyone know what the tour's
schedule was and what date and location would have occurred just prior to the 
St. Louis stop? I'd be interested in knowing if this was the first date that
may have been affected. The lead singer for IS said something about their 
next date being in Texas, I believe.

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From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:49:50 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <falcon.722387983@camelot> falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood) writes:
>liberal me??? you obviously don't know the slightest bit about me... gun
>grabbing??? i don't see myself doing that.. now if you can find something i
>said and present it to me as gun-grabbing well then ok... it says what in
>the bible? now then i am _not_ going to get into a discussion of religion
>here... 


How 'bout a discussion of 16-ton weights?  I left one around here somewhere...





-- 
Ray Shea                               I woke up this morning,
UniSQL, Inc.                           all my shrimps was dead and gone...
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: veatch@cs.toronto.edu (Tim Veatch)
Subject: Gypsy Kings -- Live
Organization: University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:20:43 GMT

I noticed that there is a Gypsy Kings Live CD out now.

I have all their other CDs.  Could someone who has the live
disk tell me why I would want to buy this one also?
-- other than to complete my set or to make myself poorer.

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: robertk@rkrajewski.lotus.com (Robert Krajewski)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic
Organization: Lotus Development Corporation
	<1992Nov19.061600.29133@netcom.com> <1ei0baINNgco@life.ai.mit.edu>
	<1885@heurikon.heurikon.com>
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:07:09

Bravo, Greg.

Hey, Doug was just over last night and he's doing fine. Love-Hounds is
just kinda on auto-pilot now, according to Doug. He does read it
occasionally...
From: warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Et Ego in Arcadia....(was: Top 10 bands of all time)
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:07:20 GMT
	<cubsfan.721966135@camelot> <1873@heurikon.heurikon.com>
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne---Laboratoire de
	Teleinformatique
In-reply-to: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com's message of 18 Nov 92 18:19:04 GMT

In article <1873@heurikon.heurikon.com> gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor) wrote:
> Bad example: the progressive wonk honking furiously about the old Genesis.
> (even *with* factoring in Tony Phillips, much as I may like "The Geese
> and the Ghost.")

Yes, he or she should be honking about IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON
KING, the album that inspired a bunch of school kids to do more of
the same.  It would probably be more interesting to discuss the
origins of Crimso: was it just that Fripp decided to place some
of the bombastic elements of Romanticism in a rock setting, or
did he steal the idea from someone else?  Do Crimso fans know
who Gustav Holst was?

> Good example: David Grisman's first band: Darrel Anger, Rob Wasserman,
> Tony Rice, and Grisman.

I would supply The Soft Machine, but I have the feeling that those
bifurcations are petering out.  You gotta love a rock band that
was inspired by Free Jazz and 20th century composers with strange
names.  Now who is left from that thread?  Robert Wyatt singing
in his wheelchair somewhere in the English countryside, a rumoured
Hatfield reunion (or was it just a Richard Sinclair resurrection?),
a few ex-members of Henry Cow vagabonding around, a Paris club date
with Hugh Hopper and Pip Pyle, and what else?
--
Ken Warkentyne - warkent@ltisun.epfl.ch
                 Laboratoire de Teleinformatique, EPFL, Suisse.
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