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From: dbasinge@ucs.indiana.edu (D. Michael Basinger)
Subject: Apple CD-Rom 300
Keywords: cd-rom
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:33:41 GMT

Does anybody know when the Apple CD-Rom 300 is going to be released.
Sorry if this is a FAQ.

Mike
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From: Darren_E._Tong@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:55:40 EST
Subject: Re: Mac crashing with BUS ERROR

You could just clean the contacts with rubbing alcohol or windex-it has a lot
of alcohol-so it will evaporate-but don't hold me to this as a definitive
solution and be careful!

- BulkRate, the offline reader for FirstClass(I'm quoted in MACWEEK-Nov
9)-darren_tong@fourd.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Ron Beloin <R.Beloin@cornell.edu>
Subject: re: Xceed 24 bit color card and cache in si
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A73273808E020E56@theq.cit.cornell.edu>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 20 Nov 92 10: 50:40 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: rmb1@cornell.edu
Organization: Boyce Thompson Inst.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:46:51 GMT

In article <pmontan-161192172638@paulmac.nswc.navy.mil> Paul Montanaro,
pmontan@nswc-wo.navy.mil writes:
>I'm interested in finding out how much this upgade (combination of the 
>cache card and 24 bit color card) speeds up the IIsi. 
>Could you please post Speedometer 3.1 results so that I can compare them 
>to my IIsi.

Here are Speedometer 3.1 results from an si w/
20MHz FPU, logica dual slot adapter, 64K cache, Xceed Macrocolor 24 bit
board,
640 X 480 monitor System 7.0.1 dot and a LaCie 170 ELS drive.

P.R. Results (Uses Mac Classic as 1.0):
CPU: 5.616
Graphics: 8.379
Disk: 2.617     Name of Hard Disk tested: Cirrus 170-Q
Math: 21.712
Performance Rating (PR): 7.455

Benchmark Results (Uses Mac Classic as 1.0):
KWhetstones: 307.692     42.149
Dhrystones: 5836.575     5.990
Towers: 5.571
QuickSort: 5.659
Bubble Sort: 6.328
Queens: 6.361
Puzzle: 7.123
Permutations: 5.802
Fast Fourier: 23.249
F.P. Matrix Multiply: 22.292
Integer Matrix Multiply: 6.465
Sieve: 6.896
Benchmark Average: 11.990

FPU Tests (Uses Mac II as 1.0):

FPU KWhetstones: 1224.489     1.714
FPU F.P. Matrix Mult.: 1.747
FPU Test Average: 1.778

Color Tests (Uses Mac II as 1.0):
Black & White: 2.017
4 Colors: 2.153
16 Colors: 2.315
256 Colors: 2.366
Color Test Average: 2.213

Awful close to a cached ci or vx. In a more real world ''test'', is
compiles and links
programs about 30% faster than it did before the upgrade, and the video
is noticibly
faster.
Ron Beloin
Boyce Thompson Inst., Ithaca, NY
R.Beloin@cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Subject: Re: Sony CPD-1302 (and CPD-1604S 17") multisync monitor ?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:52:44 GMT

In <1992Nov15.212323.109092@bmug.org> David_A._Schnider@bmug.org writes:

>Mac News sells the 1302 for $379, $425 total after ground shipping.  The
>problem is what will it work with.  i have one that works fine with my LC, but
>I want to buy a PB160 and I don't know if it will work.  I'm fairly certain it
>won't work with an Si because they don't support VGA.


>-David






Subject: Re: Sony CPD-1302 (and CPD-1604S 17") multisync monitor ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware

Dave,

Are you the guy that is confusing everyone about the SONY monitors ?
Please get your facts straight. The SONY CPD 1302 is no longer being
produced as I understand it. It WAS an autosynch that WAS compatible
with Macs. The CPD 1320 is a strictly VGA (different electronics)
monitor that will work only with the VGA (LC, LCII, some books, Quadras,
Performa+) compatible macs. The 1304S is the current autosynch.

Come on !!!!


Jim










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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: purp@wixer.cactus.org (Jim Meyer)
Subject: Re: Heavy Mouse Balls Available??
Followup-To: rec.humor
Summary: If you lack a sense of humor, skip this message.
Organization: Texas Center for Rodentia, Naughty Bits Division
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:34:59 GMT

In article <derosa.722024353@mica> motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net writes:
>First of all, I detest the light weight mouse balls.  They
>may make the mouse lighter, and some people may prefer that,
>but the light mouse ball does not track as well as the 
>heavier variety (IMHO).
>
>Does anyone know of a source for the heavy duty balls.
>Apple doesn't appear to stock them.

I have it on good word that this is a temporary shortage due to the fact
that the source from which they were importing mouse balls (here in
Texas, where everything is known to be bigger -- including our mice) has
run dry for the moment, forcing them to use mice native to their state
as a source for said balls.

And, as we all know, Californians are all vegetarian health nuts; well,
it happens that their mice are, too. Thus the lighter weight balls,
unfortunately.

We here at the Texas Center for Rodentia have stepped up our schedules
and hope to be filling the need for more substantial mouseballs very
soon.

--Jim, Director of Naughty Bits
Texas Center for Rodentia

ObLobotomizedPeople: This is a joke. This is only a joke. Had this been
true, you would have been advised where in your area to seek shelter.
From: f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Se/30 32-bit clean?
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:10:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: jaguar.1992Nov20.221038.1
Organization: Washington State University

>>>In article <BxznBM.L8H@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, 
>>>	jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End) writes:
>>>
>>> no
>>> 
>>In <1992Nov19.213430.7587@cerritos.edu> jacobs@cerritos.edu writes:
>> 
>>What he was trying to say, in those o so eloquent :) words was that if you 
>>need 32 bits for >8meg of ram, you need Mode32.
>> 
>In article <By0uI5.67K@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
>	(the End) writes:
> Pardon me ? I'll tell you what I wanted to say thanks you. Get ready........
> 
> NO

Now, now kiddies this sort of exchange is helping noone and will simply end up
in excessive flaming which I am tired of reading.

It's a long story, but in a nutshell...

Both of you are correct.

The SE/30 is NOT 32-bit clean. It was designed before Apple had completely
moved over to 32-bit clean architecture. Consequently it was stunted, pruned,
and had it's wings clipped (I think you get my drift) so that it would still 
be compatible with the then (and now!) 32-bit dirty software. This stunting
took the form of 32-bit dirty ROMS (the read only memory that the CPU uses
when it is first switched on). Basically, these make the CPU think it was
still 24-bit.

HOWEVER, this can be corrected by a software patch, MODE32. This is a system
extension that corrects the code that was installed from the ROMS. This was
developed by CONNECTIX and then APPLE bought the rights to it. It is now
freely available to anyone who wants it. It can also be downloaded from
ftp.apple.com it you wish. I believe that in addition to the SE/30, some
mac IIs also have 32-bit dirty ROMS which can be fixed by MODE32.

Why would you want to be 32-bit clean. Well that has to do with the amount
of memory you would want to address using Sys7. In the old 24-bit mode, the
maximum amount of memory you could address was 4MB (8MB in the case of the
SE/30 - something I still have not worked out why!!). Anyway, there was
a definite upper limit - at the very most 24 bits can address 16MB (2^24).
In 32-bit mode you can theoretically address 4 Gigabytes, though I believe
in reality you can address less. What would anyone want with 4 Gigabytes - 
just think how many 16MB SIMMS you would need!!! Obviously, the potential
is there and that was one of the reasons for switching to 32-bit 
architecture. 

So, currently if you want to address >8MB on an SE/30, using real (SIMMS)
or virtual (HD) memory, you need MODE32. I have an SE/30 but do not use 
MODE32 much yet. The 8MB real memory I have is enough (for now) and a
lot of software is still not 32-bit clean and would crash.

That may not be the most technical explanation you could get, but its
what I learnt about my CPU and a bit better than just "no"!

Richard.
From: arnold@violet.berkeley.edu (John Arnold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Plugging in floppy on PB100 while asleep. Will it do damage?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 18 Nov 1992 05:53:40 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lat1mac33.cchem.berkeley.edu

> Addtional question: Will I damage my Powerbook if i UNPLUG the floppy
> drive with the PB is on?

I wish I'd known how bad it was to do this otherwise I might not have done
it many times in the last few months.  Funny thing is, it still seems to
work just fine.  Perhaps now that I know it shouldn't it might not - who
can say.
From: englhq@rosie.uh.edu (Franklet, Duane L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SUMMARY: Frozen SE/30 HDs
Date: 16 Nov 1992 14:28 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
Keywords: stiction
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Thanks to all who responded to my SE/30 distress call. I will
summarize what the problem and solution is, in my own words.

Problem: HD light active but SE/30 will not boot. Even if you
boot from floppy, the HD is not recognized. This happened to
two of my SE/30's within one week.

Several people accurately identified the problem as "stiction".
The drive was literally stuck, and it was not spinning. I had
success taking the cover off and tapping (not so lightly) the side
of the hard drive with a pen. I had the machine plugged in and 
I could hear the disk come unstuck and start to spin. I was
then able to back up the whole hard drive to tape.

If you don't like putting your hand in there when the Mac is 
plugged in, you might get it to work by hitting the outer shell 
with the palm of your hand, but that seemed to me overly brutal 
and possibly disruptive to other components.

Several people had written to tell me that these drives,
apparently Sony 40 MB, were subject to a recall or extended
service period wherein Apple would replace them free.

It sounded too good to be true, but I called my service center
and read the number off the hard drive. They looked on a list
and said, You bet, bring it in and we'll replace it. FREE.

The serial number is located at the front of the drive and has a
bar code. You have to take the drive out to see it, but that is easy
enough. (1) Remove the small card on the back of the CRT to make room.
Pull straight back and then push it off to the side. (2) With the
Mac face down, remove two Phillips head screws at the back of the drive
and it slides out.

No one gave me the list of eligible serial numbers, nor did my service
center. They only told me that my number was on it. Perhaps someone could 
post this information?

Good luck, and if this happens to you, don't despair too much. You'll
probably be able to get the drive going again at least long enough to
salvage your data.
____________________
Duane Franklet
englhq@jetson.uh.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ckyu@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chen-Kuang Yu)
Subject: Re: Need copmany to convert PowerBook internal 80M to external.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 07:45:59 GMT

In article <parkyn.721965760@sfu.ca> parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn) writes:
>I think MicroTech might be already selling an external kit that fits
>the PowerBook drives. 
>
>Can anyone confirm the manufacturer(s) of kits?
>
>I checked quickly through the Dec. issue of MacWorld and could not find
>any mention of compatible kits...
>
>

Besides Microtech, APS is also selling special external casing for
internal harddrive from pb.  It's more expensive than the Microtech's
(about $175 as compared to $135), but the APS's has power supply and
can be run from batteries too.

Call them up for details.

/Chen
From: MATT.HARROP@argentic.gts.org (Matt Harrop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Daystar Digital PowerCache Questions
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:16:47 GMT
Organization: Argentic BBS [Toronto, Ontario, Canada]

I need to excelerate my Mac IIx.  I will probably be buying a Daystar
PowerCache 40 or 50.  I have two questions about these cards.
 
1) Do they mess up the sound production of the Mac's speaker the way some
   excelerators do?
2) If I get one without a 68882 FPU, will I still be able to use the FPU
   that is on the Mac IIx's logic board?
 
Thanks in advance for any answers.
 
|-----------------------------------------------------|
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Matt Harrop <MATT.HARROP@argentic.gts.org> OR <MATT.HARROP@argentic.uucp>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: clf3678@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.L. Freemesser)
Subject: Re: Ever heard of western Digital?
Originator: clf3678@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:24:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.142439.24135@bio.vu.nl> ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido) writes:
>Somebody offered me a Western Digital 200 MB int. Harddrive for
>a good price. But I have never heard of Western Digital!
>
>Does anybody know if they are any good/fast/reliable?
>

Western Digital is a very popular company in the PC world.  They make
all sorts of hard drive controller products for the PC, as well as a
number of hard drives.

Western Digital has had a number of different hard drive models over the
years.  I don't think WD itself makes hard drives.  I know that the
older WD260 and WD360 hard drives were made by Tandon, and weren't all
that reliable.  I believe their current line of hard drives are called
the Caviar series, but I don't know all that much about them.

However, I don't recall WD making a SCSI version of their Caviar series.
It was my impression that they stopped with SCSI drives when they
discontinued the WD260 & 360 series.  It is my OPINION that you can do
better than a Western Digital hard drive.


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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: Trouble with E-Machines T16-2 color Monitors
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 23:29:59 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <By19Ao.8Dz@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> gilbertd@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert) writes:
>We recently had 2 of 3 Apple 21" color monitors show up with defects.  
>I've had 2 of 2 Apple 13" color monitors in my office develop defects.  
>Our department has had one E-machines T16 monitor out of about 6 or so 
>develop a defect shortly after arrival, and one E-machines video card out
>of about 4.  But we have also had a high rate of hard disk failures
>in some batches, various motherboard problems, lots of ethernet
>card problems, etc.  I don't think E-machines has any more 
>problem than other hardware makers, and my experience with their
>service/replacement group has been good.
>
>- Don
>-- 
>Don Gilbert                                     gilbert@bio.indiana.edu
>biocomputing office, biology dept., indiana univ., bloomington, in 47405

Tell the guys next door in the physics lab to stop dumping their
excess radiation on you guys.
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From: crawford@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (James E Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Seeking CD-ROM recommendations
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:52:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: jhunix.1992Nov18.165228.17435
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

Wait a couple months and buy the new Apple 300i. Not only does it offer
a 300kb/s data transfer rate (allows you to run QuickTime moves straight
off the disc), but it is one of the few CDROM players that support multiple
sessions of Kodak's PhotoDisc technology

Jim Crawford
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Subject: Re: Need copmany to convert PowerBook internal 80M to external.
Reply-To: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:08:56 GMT


Definitely - APS makes them. Price ~$75 US, I believe.
800 number in most Macintosh trade mags.
Best service when it comes to hard drives.

-rich

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman)
Subject: Re: PowerBooks: How Tough Are They?
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:42:54 GMT

nodine@lcs.mit.edu (Mark H. Nodine) writes:

>Last April, I had to pick up and move in a hurry.  
>Unfortunately, I forgot to make sure that my briefcase
>was locked, which it wasn't.  My PowerBook 140 fell
>out of the briefcase, breaking the screen.  They
>wanted $800 to fix it -- I'm still working with a
>broken screen.

>Don't feel compelled to repeat this experiment to
>see if it works for you...

    Are we starting a thread of dumb things we've done to our
PowerBooks? If so, here's my submission: when staying at my sister's a
few months ago, I left the PB170,in sleep mode and with the top closed,
on a chair while it was plugged into the charger. Cleverly, I entered
the darkened room later, tripped over the cord, and sent the PowerBook
flying a meter or two across the room. The left leg (Apple refers to
them as "lifters") broke off, but nothing else was harmed. The lifters
cost $5.00 a piece; replacing them requires opening the box, so I would
have voided my warranty if I had done it myself.... ;-)

    I've found the PowerBook to be exceptionally sturdy: for about six
months this year, I carried mine 30 km each way to and from work in my
backpack on a motorcycle with no problems.

						Joe Gurman
--
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Greenbelt MD 20771 USA / gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov
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From: kh@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Kevin Hammond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Do you REALLY need a coprocessor?  was(Duo opinions wanted)
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:48:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland

In article <1992Nov22.192008.120123@bmug.org> David_A._Schnider@bmug.org writes:
>I don't have a coprocessor in my LC, and if I buy a PB160 it won't be able to
>hold one.  The only thing I truly want it for is the Satori AD module.

I didn't have an FPU in my LC (as a computer scientist, I couldn't
think why I'd actually need floating point), but I thought I'd like to
use Excel occasionally so I bought one.  Putting one in has speeded up:

	OzTeX DVI viewing  (from unbearable to tolerable)

	Excel calculations and chart display (from unbearable to acceptable)

	Word Table drawing, and perhaps Page Preview 
	   (I can't think why tables should be faster, 
            perhaps I'm imagining it!)

	Finder colour scrollbars in System 7
	   (again, I can't imagine why, if this really is the case, but it 
	    does correspond with the observation that colour scroll bars 
	    are slow on low-end [no FPU] Macs!)

	Battlezone (it's actually usable!)

	Quicktime (also usable)

I'd expect Mandelzot to become usable too, but I haven't tried this.

Generally, these seem to be fairly display-intensive applications.
Most of the other applications I use seem unaffected, as I'd expect.
For #65 I'm happy with my FPU, even if my imagination does make
some things seem faster when they're not.  Of course, if you have
a Duo rather than an LC, these applications may not be so slow
anyway, so you may not feel so great a need for extra power.

Kevin
-- 
Dept. of Computing Science, Glasgow University.    E-mail: kh@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dlopez@shearson.com (David Lopez)
Subject: Re: Ever heard of western Digital?
Reply-To: dlopez@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:28:19 GMT

Western digital is fairly well known in the ibm pc market. from some of
the postings from users in this newsgroup lately it seems that some of
the ibm nameplate hard drives that are shipping with current macs are
OEMed from western digital. i dont know of any comparisons between 
quantum HD's and WD HD's tho.


In article 24135@bio.vu.nl, ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido) writes:
>Somebody offered me a Western Digital 200 MB int. Harddrive for
>a good price. But I have never heard of Western Digital!
>
>Does anybody know if they are any good/fast/reliable?
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:46:40 EST
Subject: Re: Internal hardware maintainence

Warning.  Do NOT vacume your computer.  Conventional vaccum cleaners create
lots of static electricity which can easily do permanent damage to the
hardware of your CPU.  The Macintosh Bible refers to a special vaccum cleaner
for electronic applications made by 3M which incorporates some special
grounding (I don't know what is involved) techniques to avoid problems with
static electricity.  Joe C. 
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