HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Subject Theses Theses...
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:33:24 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Wales, Aberystwyth


In article <memo.578304@cix.compulink.co.uk> 
cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace) writes:
   In article <AAG.92Aug13032631@artemis.aber.ac.uk> aag@aber.ac.uk 
   (Angela 
   Gilham) writes:
   >(Anybody want to write Chapter 5 of my thesis?)

   [Ana Writes]
   >Yes, if you write my chapter 7. Before Sunday.

   Well, I have both chapters 5 and 7 of a new Amiga book I'm supposed
   to be finishing...

I didn't say I *only* had Chapter 5. There's also the small matters of
Chapters 6, 7, 8, & 9 to be completed in draft before I move house the
week after next ;-)

    now let's see.... "Guru Meditation (and Whack)" (that's chapter
    5), and "Talking to Fat Angus" (that's Chapter 7) - if you 
    _really_ want this inconsequential drivel I'll be happy to mail
    you both a classic example of using five words where two will do.
    (Paid by the word syndrome....)

Inconsequential drivel, I have. I'm great at it. It's the technical
content part of the thesis I have problems with . . . I shall be very
glad to get away from it for three months . . . even though for those
same three months I shall probably be without soc.bi (blatent play
for sympathy no. 1) as my job doesn't carry a news feed with it ;-(

Meanwhile, back in the thesis mines . . . Chapter Five is being hacked
to pieces . . . 

Ang (Bi content? You want bi content when I have to spend Sunday
     working on the thesis . . . so that I can take a long day off 
     after going to my girlfriend's party on Wednesday?)
--
Angela Gilham.                 \ aag@aber.ac.uk \ "You should have fallen in
Department of Computer Science  \                \ love with a happy man, if 
University of Wales, Aberystwyth,\ +44 970 622433 \ you wanted happiness. But
Penglais, Aberystwyth,            \                \ you fell for the breath-
SY23 3BZ. United Kingdom.          \                \ taking beauty of pain."
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: The ??? Between Us 
From: pclary@radish.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 21:04:38 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey
Keywords: *DeFlower* ME will you...

orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) wrote...
>In article <1992Aug18.000800.151310@zeus.calpoly.edu> cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe L Johnson) writes:
>|In article <1992Aug16.043151.4330@latcs1.lat.oz.au> woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) writes:
>|[about Chicago bi party]
>|> ... Then off to hot tubs in SF, and *then* ...
>|BTW, it was determined last night that the aforementioned hot tub 
>|fits five quite nicely.
>   (Except in the case of certain people who had to scurry to Oakland
>airport to catch a *full* 23:15 flight to the abovementioned Chicago :-(
>I was *very* *relaxed* on the flight back, though :-)

Oh stop it, you did fly first class.

Ellen
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: hot bi babes
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:11:09 GMT
Organization: Eris's Restaurant

In article <1992Aug18.171806.15568@bnr.co.uk> rwab@bnr.co.uk (Ralph Becket) writes:
>test [sorry!]

Woo! is this a new UK-bi-muffin popping up?  If so, let me anticipate the
Welcome Wagon....

	Hiya Ralph! <hug> <lick> <smooch> <snuggle>

If not... oh, well.

				Kay
-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dsparks@acorn.co.uk (David Sparks)
Subject: Re: Posting articles.. & demuffin self
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:29:45 +0000



Thanks Steve for asking about the email gateway, and also to Graham and 
Olaf who answered.

Well I've been reading this for a while now, and now that I've got the 
chance I'm going to de-muffin myself.  I'm  22, married with daughter,
and have only recently realised that I'm bi, as is my wife.  It's been quite
a confusing time - as I always thought of myself as a mono-het but I seem to
have come through it ok and more curious about myself than I have ever been.
Well I guess that's pretty boring as a post, but I thought I better post 
something to let people know I'm around.

*Hugs* to all who want them

David

 ______
 \    / Email: dsparks@acorn.co.uk
  \  /  Disclaimer: All thoughts my own and no-one else.
   \/   Alt. proverb #1 "Set a deep hole with spring-loaded sides, 
                         tripwires, whirling knife blades driven by 
                         water power, broken glass and scorpions, to 
                         catch a thief"
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Test Message Please Ignore
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:12:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk


[Bethan Writes]

><snicker>  I can understand what Ellen means, though I suspect my point 
>of view is slightly different. The het males I've come out to seem to 
>back off, and are threatened by my bisexuality. With the ex-SO its fine 
>as long as I don't _talk_ about it, and behave like the het female he 
>thought I was (ha!).

>This probably involves not wearing lycra and Doc Martens - Fat Chance!

You? *Not* in Lycra and Doc Martins? Jeez... I couldn't *Imagine* life
without such a wonderful apparition.

Clive 

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sara@blkhole.resun.com (Sara Hopkins (Swamp Thing))
Subject: Re: Bethan's Birthday Greetings
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 08:05:34 GMT
Organization: News Addicts


*Horribly* late, I know, and from an odd mail address as well (many
thanks, Don and Chris, for the news access) but better late than never
as they say: birthday *hug*, Bethan!  Oh and btw, I have photos of a
certain party, courtesey of a certain cutie in California (who I
believe is allowing me to go home!); trade you a look at them for a
look at yours - er, photos that is ...
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Some button badge slogans/designs
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:29:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug19.222954.11399
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Followup-To: soc.bi
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

In article <1992Aug19.212632.13075@u.washington.edu> rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
>She also found a Nobody Knows I'm a Bisexual t-shirt (which I'd never seen
>before)  which I wore to work the next day (fuck-em if they can't take
>a joke) 
>
>Sandy
>"I don't have to choose, nyaah, nyaaah, nah nyaah nyaah."

Folks at the national BiNet conference were wearing T-shirts in one photo
which said:

 Nobody _Believes_ I'm Bisexual 

-- 
 Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
 alunde@nuacvm.bitnet |  Feminist   |.......|.........................
From: pks@queue.uucp (Pearl Stark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Keywords: providence...
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:40:58 GMT
Reply-To: ebt-inc!pks@uunet.uu.net (Pearl Stark)
Organization: EBT

In article <1992Aug13.220456.7239@midway.uchicago.edu> moh2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>>Texas doesn't spring to mind as the bisexual centre of anything (face it,
>>>>it's Edinburgh or nowhere :))
>
>Well, I'm casting another vote for Chicago....the place with the
>coolest gays, bis *and* straights!
>	Kateri

Just to let you know I'm still here (barely) and because of course 
I couldn't let this pass without plugging providence ...
PROVIDENCE 
as soc.bi hotspot.
hear hear.
cool; yeah; neat; wow; etc etc.
pearl
Xref: sparky soc.bi:10816 soc.motss:35162
From: grinch@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Dave Ferguson)
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
Subject: Re: queer brains?
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:22:35 GMT
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)

In article <l8mgv7INNe0q@nunki.usc.edu> silverma@nunki.usc.edu (David Silverman) writes:
>The way I see it, there is no proof that homosexuality is biological. There
>is way to prove which came first, the sexual orientation or the brain
>structure, from only one examination of each body. I don't think we know
>enough about the brain to say that it can't be changed by a persons actions.
>Some "experts" think you can develop your left or right side of your brain
>by doing certain mental exercises. Maybe the brain adapts to an individuals
>actions/preferences/desires to 'disconnect' one mode of behavior and permit


Y'know...this reminds me of a conversation I once had with my kinda-sorta-
boyfriend-but-more-like-close-friends-and-we're-not-TOTALLY-committed-but-
who-asked-YOU-anyway about whether homosexuality was "nature" or "nurture".
He concluded that it was a bit of both.  According to him, even though he's
gay, he could have trained his mind to become bisexual if he really wanted
to go to the effort.  I think he even said that he could have made himself
straight, but I don't remember.

Basically, his point was that we are all born with the potential to be
bisexual, but that we consciously decide whether we want to develop into
homosexuals, bisexuals or heterosexuals.  He made a pretty good point at
the time, but I don't think I'm doing it justice here.  Oh yeah...and BTW,
I didn't say I necessarily agreed with him, so if you don't buy it, don't
take it out on me, 'K?

Daemon 


-- 
+ D.C.X. Ferguson, "Daemon"          Industry, Science & Technology Canada   +
+ grinch@micor.ocunix.on.ca          Policy Sector                           +
+                                    Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA                 +
+        No tax dollars were expended to bring you this message              +
From: n8442349@henson.cc.wwu.edu (m'syon khror)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Susie Bright
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:18:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Aug14.011824.5459
Organization: Western Washington University


	Susie Bright is a goddess, no question.  I have her Lesbian Sex
World book, but not this one - is it new?  Whether or not, I'll have to
run right out and find a copy...

					Joy

-- 
Joy Ralph
n8442349@henson.cc.wwu.edu

- I am the electric messiah - the AC/DC _GOD_
From: pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:39:18 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <36788@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes:
> In article <1992Aug12.162313.28044@midway.uchicago.edu> elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> +David Parsons, who looks fetching first thing in the morning, writes:
> +>My sexual and emotional ties with men are easily as strong as they are with
> +>women, it's just that I ogle less of them.
> +
> +Is that "less" or "fewer"?  Somehow, I think you meant the latter.  :)

Wonderful. I was taught to try out "less" or "fewer" by testing the phrase
against the noun "soup" or "porridge": you can have less soup, but you
certainly can't have fewer soup, although you might try fewer soups.
Pedanticism is a lovesome thing, God wot.

> Actually for me, less, hairy or hairless masculine chest are less
> attractive to me than hairy or hairless breasts. Although I don't
> particularly dislike muscularity, for me mail chests sort of put me
> to sleep. Also my tolerance for rounder shapes in women is far
> larger than men.

A masterpiece of ambiguity. Where do I get these "mail chests", a B&D store
or LISTSERV?

///Peter
From: wolfe@wolves.uucp (G. Wolfe Woodbury)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bisexuality and DEC PDP's... is there a link?
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:26:56 GMT
Organization: Red Wolfe @ The Wolves Den
X-Md4-Signature: 6addd9aa7f796261c7e9124a60c129d1

fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>rhialto@cs.kun.nl (Olaf Seibert) writes:
>>orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) writes:
>>|  Pity the poor people who are confronted with Z80, VAX, or Intel x86
>machines
>>|while they're still innocent and naive. The 6502 is okay, but only if you're
>>|raising your children to be rabid efficiency freaks.
>>
>>Guess what was the first computer I used? A PET-2001. With 6502.
>
> Yay! Finally someone else who's not DEC-based.. First computer I used
>was an Acorn Atom; 6502-based.. Given the lack of real dates
>mentioned, I'm not sure, but I suspect the PDP-11 was around before I
>was even born.. <grin>

Oh, you want "first" computer's used?   (Here we go again....)
How about a Control Data 160A?  (Analog Digital hybrid ~1958)  or the
CDC 704(?) also circa 1958.  Cute machines, and the first card punch i
ever used was NOT an "025", but sat on the table top and required
punching each row in a column one at a time!

All these youngsters here.... :-)
-- 
G. Wolfe Woodbury @ The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC         [use the maps!]
UUCP: ...dukcds!wolves!wolfe   ...duke!wolves!wolfe    <Standard disclaimers>
Domain: wolfe%wolves@cs.duke.edu    wolfe@cds.duke.edu
    Above all, we celebrate.   Celebrate the Circle Statement of Purpose
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Subject:
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:01:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



[Bethan Writes]
>Oy! Leave off the Amstrad! Well may you duck (but you should know 
>by now that you wouldn't be quick enough <evil grin>  <tweak>!) 
>I wrote my undergrad dissertation on that, _and_ earned some money 
>with it.
>It took 6 mins to print a page....

Bethan. I love it when you're angry!

>>(Mac's_R_Us - especially my cutie Mac Classic.It's called Tiny Clanger)
>>(and no, I've never had sex on one, it'd probably break the poor thing)

>There's an obvious comment to be made here, but I don't think even _I_ 
>am that crude... :)

Crude? No... "Earthy" maybe.... [duck]

Well, thankfully I didn't say "the poor *little* thing" then...

+----------------------------------------------+----------------------+
| If god intended us to use PCs then           |cliveg@compulink.co.uk|
| Steve Jobs wouldn't have given us Macs       |cliveg@compulink.uucp |
+----------------------------------------------+----------------------+
From: gtoal@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Appreciate Me Now and Avoid the Rush!
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:34:29 GMT
Reply-To: gtoal@stack.urc.tue.nl
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

In article <AAG.92Aug17171816@artemis.aber.ac.uk> aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham) writes:
>an end. The real world, and a real job paying real money beckons 

Hey, you got one despite the sniffles and foul mood!  yay!  (Which one?)

Cheer up - now you're earning, you can afford lots of trips to visit
all these wonderful people...  And if your job is in London, you can
arrange proper net access for the cost of a cheap PC, a modem, and
ten quid a month + phone bills.  (total: half your first month's wages)

G
From: gazit@duke.cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Homoerotic bible quotes?
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:30:48 GMT
Reply-To: gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel)
Organization: Nefolet shel nemushot (Fallout of Wimps)

#What happened to Leviticus Nation, the group in Portland
#that combined both tactics by making fun of the contra-
#dictions in the Bible -- picketing seafood restaurants,
#chastising clean-shaven men, poly/cotton wearers, etc...?

%Orthodox jews are almost never confused, they just ask the
%rabbi what they should think...

In article <asuccop.713434503@milton> asuccop@milton.u.washington.edu 
(Annemarie Succop) writes:
>	i meant more, i wonder what they think of 'leviticus nation'

Orthodox Jews tend to have several sects, with bitter fights
between them.  They have no problem about presenting each other
as pagans, and violence is used every now and then.  (They try
to keep the fights secret, but with limited success.)  IMO they
are not afraid of God, but they are scared to death of each other.

With attitude like this they would have no problem with viewing
the 'leviticus nation' as another group of pagans...
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Introduction
From: pclary@radish.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 21:15:28 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) wrote...
>In article <44dpbn6f@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>>[discussion from soc.motss deleted...]
>>Hey now, hold on a minute... the soc.bi regulars?  People like me and
>>Tim and Ciaran and Olaf and Sara and Ellen and Graham - I guess we're
>>regular enough - "regularly post introductory autobiographical essays"?
>>Well, not on the soc.bi that I read and write to we don't.  We do, now
>>and then, mention in articles something that has happened to us in our
>>lives, but it's rare - very rare - that anyone posts anything that
>>could even begin to be considered autobiographical.  And, when they do,
>>it's as an individual article, and nearly always done as a demuffining
>>
>>Actually, I don't think that it's such a ludicrous idea at all, if it
>>were modified a little.  Posting these things is so wasteful; far
>>better either to have a central site from which they could be FTPed,
>>as with the GIFs on spdcc (heck, my life would be less bytes than my
>>GIF), or mailed on request by the biographee.
>>
>I think this would be interesting... sort of a personal version of a FAQ 
>list, for those of us who already have sufficently public personas to
>share with the net.  Ftp and gopher are both possible media.
>
>What do others on soc.bi think?

Sounds interesting - though I still haven't been able to write the 
last autobiographical thing I said that I'd do - which was months
ago.  It's much easier to insert autobiographical elements when
responding to something specific.

Ellen
From: jet@ki.com (Jeanette Bradley)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: hot bi babes
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:20:27 GMT
Distribution: soc.bi
Organization: ki Research, Inc



 In the vein of this whole hot bi babes thing...

This weekend I went camping, and I met a man from NYC. he
asked me if I's ever been to New York and I replied "I
went there in June for Pride Day".
He looked a little uncvomfortable and shuffled his feet
and said "Oh, are you, er,... *into* *that* ?"
I replied, "Well, I don't know about being into it, 
but I am bisexual."
he said "Bisexual, huh? want to come by my tent later?"
(all this without looking at my face, and then a little
giggle at the end, as if to imply that he's just joking,
so I shouldn't be offended.

This whole incident has been bothering me a lot, I
am used to the whole 'I think it's really erotic that
you sleep with women" bit, but I've never had anyone
say soemthing like that directly to me before. My
reaction is suprising me. 

I was wondering how other people (women) deal with 
this sort of thing... both what you say in reply
(I was speechless) and how you deal with it personally.

(Right now, this event, as well as a few others that
occured over the weekend, are making lesbian seperatism
look like an appealing option, which also bothers me.)
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Subject Floor Shows
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:18:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tanaqui) wrote...
> Provide floor show entertainment? What a shocking thought:
>you'll ruin my carefully cultivated aura of innocence....

>[Ellen Writes]
>Could of fooled me.....

Innocence? <snigger> Yeah...very good Tanaqui... I can't even pick up a
plastic bag without smiling goofily at the rustling sounds it makes...

P.S. Your parting gifts were put to good use last week Ellen - thanks!

<now let's see how the net reacts to *that* :-)

Clive Grace
From: woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Tech Post, no content whatsoever (was Re: Alt.sex.wizards)
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:38:22 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

dente@els.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes:
>woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) writes:
>|>    (I *still* have maybe 50 double-sided disks full of Apple II games...)
>Aaahhh those were the days...  Actually, the only AppleII game I can remember
>was the maze game where you were chased by ants, and it actually said "We
>gotcha" when they caught you - not bad considering the fact that all you
>could do was click the speaker.

   And it played the theme of "La Cucaracha"! It was a great game...think
it was called "Tumblebugs"...

   I could wax lyrical about Apple II games for simply *ages*... 8->


>[horror story of folded disks deleted]

   Those Apple II disks were almost indestructable. I'm sure I remember
hearing about someone who'd *sneezed* on the exposed disk surface and
still managed to get it working half the time!


ObBiRef : Um...um...

Joe.

  / Joe Woodhouse        / I'm just a sweet bisexual...   / Hello, there.
 / Latrobe University   /    (think - Rocky Horror)      / Threesomes are fun.
/ Melbourne, Australia / Music. Magic. Mathematics. Me. / I like cats! (miaow!)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: 75furlong@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu
Subject: A Questionnaire on Heterosexuality
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:17:08 GMT

Just thought y'all would find this amusing. It's from a local youth theatre's
gossip rag, and they probably stole it from someone else. In any case, it's
reprinted here without permission and the typos are most likely mine.

(cut here)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
			A Questionnaire on Heterosexuality


1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?

2. When and how did you decide you were heterosexual?

3. Isn't it possible that your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out
of [sic]?

4. Is it possible that your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of
others of the same sex?

5. If you've never slept with another person of the same sex, isn't it possible
that you just need a good gay lover?

6. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?

7. Why do you heterosexuals feel compelled to reduce others into your
lifestyle?

8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be who
you are and keep it quiet?

9. Would you want your child to be heterosexual, knowing the problems he/she
would have to face?

10. A disproportionate number of child molesters are heterosexual. Do you
consider it safe to expose your child to heterosexual teachers?

11. With all the societal support that marriage receives, the divorce rate is
still spiralling upward. why are there so few stable relationhips among
heterosexuals?

12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?

13. Considering the menace of over-population, how could the human race survive
if everyone were heterosexual?

14. If you needed help, could you trust therapists who were heterosexual to be
objective? Don't you feel that they might be inclined to influence you in the
direction of their own leaning?

15. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive,
exclusive heterosexuality and fail to develop your natural, healthy, homosexual
potential?

16. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been
developed that might enable you to change if you want to [sic]. Have you
considered trying aversion therapy?

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(cut here)

hmmmm.....funny - I've never heard the questions asked quite *that* way.
<grin>

-Alison

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