HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Hans Ridder <ridder@zso.dec.com>
Subject: Re: `term' v2.4 to be released rsn.
Originator: ridder@zowie.zso.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:40:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.043439.29294@mercury.unt.edu> west@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce West) writes:
>   First, hats off to the class and style of term, now some slams ;)
>
>*  Review buffer design (things *needed*)
>  Ability to cut,paste, and copy from buffer to clipboards and files, and
>    visa-versa.

I don't think Copy/Paste to/from files is a terminal emulator's job.
And how would you like Cut to work in a terminal emulator?

>  Ability to control the *speed* of paste.  ie. char delays and line delay.
>    At 2400 baud paste is WAY to fast.  And speed is also good for bad
>    connections.

Really?  Are you saying that the host at the other end can't handle
input at 240 cps?  Doesn't it know about flow-control?

>  Ability to *paste* from files.

Same as above?

>  Ability to paste with line prefixes and suffixes. [needed for responding
>    on brain-dead systems].

Hmmm.  What's this good for?

>*  VLT compatability.
>  I don't understand what happened to term and the latest version of
>VLT. But for some reason when you have "destructive backspace" set wehn
>you hit the left arrow while editing a file you erase those characters.
>Hitting right arrow will cause those characters to reapper (or ^L).

Well, *real* VT100's (or other DEC terminals) don't do "destructive
backspace," so in my somewhat biased opinion it does't belong in a VT100
emulator.  Maybe some non-VT100 terminals take such liberties with the
ASCII character set, but then that wouldn't be emulating a VT100, would
it?

>If you disable the destructive backspace then you can't erase with the
>backspace key while you're typing (assuming you switch backspace and
>delete, etc etc).  Regardless, the end result is either good editing of
>a file, OR good ability while typing text.  This under VI by the way.

Realize that when in "insert mode," vi treats backspace and delete the
same.  That is, it just backs over the characters without erasing them.
When you leave insert mode, vi will erase any characters you didn't type
over after hitting backspace or delete.  When not in insert mode,
backspace moves backwards (just like the "left arrow" key,) and delete
just beeps at you.  (I'm not a vi user -- I *hate* vi -- so flame away
if I'm way off here.)

Turn off destructive backspace, make sure your TERM variable is set
correctly, and give it another try.

>  This definitely must be corrected, hopefully on both programs.

Yah, just get rid of destructive backspace!  ;-/ It seems to be the
cause of *many* of the problems new users have with VLT (and TERM?)
Perhaps it belongs in some *other* emulation?

-hans
-- 
  Hans-Gabriel Ridder				Digital DECwest Engineering
  ridder@rust.zso.dec.com			Bellevue, Washington, USA
  {pacbell,pyramid,uunet}!rust.zso.dec.com!ridder
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Friday, 16 Oct 1992 10:57:09 PST
From: <WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Amiga to Unix
 <1992Oct14.213315.12369@rtsg.mot.com>

VLT likes AmigaDOS 1.3 just fine... There are some features of it that
will only work in 2.04, but that is to be expected. Time goes on.

        Willy.
----------
Willy Langeveld - Bitnet: WGLP09 @ SLACVM - BIX: langeveld
From: jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Busy BBS
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:33:43 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Did rvmst1@gl.pitt.edu really type:
}  Hi,
}  	Does anyone know of a SMALL program that will sit around and
}  answer the modem if a call comes in, give a short (a few lines) message,
}  and then hang up.
}  	I need such a thing for when my BBS is donw, for backup, or
}  whatever.


Yes, there are such programs (check out GEnie or other large Amiga
file systems.)  However, I highly recommend you just let the line
ring.  Such answering systems are rather rude to long distance
callers.
-- 
    _   Who:    John 'Vlad' Adams 
 _ //   Where:  jma@cis.ufl.edu -or- jadams@coral.senod.uwf.edu
 \X/    Why:    "Every moment of pleasure in life has to be
                   purchased by an equal amount of pain."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: west@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce West)
Subject: Re: `term' v2.4 to be released rsn.
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:41:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.234007.27563@ninja.zso.dec.com> Hans Ridder <ridder@zso.dec.com> writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.043439.29294@mercury.unt.edu> west@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce West) writes:
>>   [stuff deleted]
>
>I don't think Copy/Paste to/from files is a terminal emulator's job.
>And how would you like Cut to work in a terminal emulator?

    Cut/Paste to/from files in the REVIEW BUFFER.  ie, you see several addresses
you would like to save in your review buffer.  You highlight them all and then
save them to a file.  This is an invaluable tool.
>
>>  Ability to *paste* from files.

    This is good so you can write your responses on your grand Amiga, and use
all the tools you have aquired over the years to make it "perfect".  And then
you simply "post" it by pasting from the file.
>
>
>>  Ability to paste with line prefixes and suffixes. [needed for responding
>>    on brain-dead systems].
>
>Hmmm.  What's this good for?

    So when I go into the buffer to see what you said ten messages ago I can
simply paste it (with a > prefix set, for example).



Ciao.....


                                          - Jason
.
From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Baudbandit.device with VLT -> YES!
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:37:57 GMT
Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <92283.194206BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu> BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu (Blaise Tarr) writes:
> In article <1992Oct9.214856.21213@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu
> (BarryB) says:
> >I have succesfully used both 1.2 and 1.4 of BaudBandit.device.
> >
> >            worked?
> >            -------
> >VLT           no
> >Term          yes
> >MagiCall      yes
> 
> I got the BaudBandit.device to work with VLT after reading one of Willy's
> posts.  The problem is that VLT does not like capital letters in the device
> name (C= made that rule).  So I took a hex file editor, namely FileMaster,
> and changed the capital "B"s in the string "BaudBandit" to a lower case "b".
> This occurs at a couple of places in the BaudBandit.device file.  After that
> I renamed BaudBandit.device to baudbandit.device, and tada, it works :-).

Or one could use QuickFix, supplied with the BB archive.


> 
>        ///  Blaise Tarr
>       ///
>   \\\///    BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu     "Typically, the subject being copied
>    \XX/     tarr@cs.psu.edu           is terminated."   -CSM 101

-- 
     Jesper Kehlet, Compos Mentis Software Systems -- A Kind Of Magic
        (uunet|pyramid|rutgers)!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmden!kehlet!kehlet
                        kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org

           'The lunatic is in my mind' -- Pink Floyd, Dark Side
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: pfalk@stkai2.enet.dec.com (Peter Falk (FLK))
Subject: How to set up NCOMM.
Keywords: NCOMM
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.  Stockholm  SWEDEN
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:29:00 GMT


Hello,

I have tried several times to set up NCOMM, but I never succeed.
I'm beginning to think I must be stupid or something.
My setup is an ordinary A500 with 1M mem. and a monitor.

Anyway, 
When I try to unpack NCOMM I always get DISK FULL.
What minimum config would a bootable disk with NCOMM on it need??
What directorys do I need and what don't I need.
Does anybody have NCOMM packed so it's ready to run when you
unpack it on to an empty disk?
I.e. a .DMS archive or something.

Any and all answers are welcome!!
((((Peter Falk))))
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: SkylineII & A3000
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:11:39 PST
Organization: BBS

> He's trying to get SkylineII to run on his A3000.  No luck.
 
Have you tried using Degrader?  If it's a hardware-related problem
this might provide a workaround or at least narrow it down.
From: hetland@gribb.hsr.no (Hetland, Thor H.       7-95)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Terminal to MSDOS
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:33:22 GMT
Organization: Rogaland University Centre


Hey, out there!

I would like to have my A3000 take remote control over my PC witch is in an
ethernet.  This way it would be easier to get networked with my Amiga.

It is currently connected via an NULL-modfen cable, running TWIN, but would 
like full access to the network (FTP/TELNET).

It sounds as an reasonable task, but what do I need, and how can I do this?

Please respond by EMAIL.


Totto-92
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: X-Comm (was: Re: JRComm 2.0???)
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:36:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <william.1tw6@terapin.com> william@terapin.com (William Wong) writes:
>What is the latest version of X-Comm?

You guys have heard of Douglas Adams right?  He's the one who has just
finished writing the "Fifth Book in this increasingly innacuratly named 
triliogy."  PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE keep the subject line X-comm!

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: kaltenha@informatik.uni-freiburg.de (Raoul Kaltenhaeuser)
Subject: Zyxel voice optoion
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Freiburg, Deutschland
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 10:58:37 GMT

In their new ads Zyxel says their new modems have 'voice option' and
that it can be used as an answering machine. Is that true for Amigas,
too, or is only MS-Dos supported?

Raoul

--
      ................................................
      :  Raoul Kaltenhaeuser   /    GrafikMaschine   :
      :  kaltenha@vega.informatik.uni-freiburg.de    :
      :..............................................:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: oahvenla@silver-surfer.cs.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi)
Subject: Re: Term prog that has 14.4k
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:48:30 GMT

In <1au1j1INNotd@agate.berkeley.edu> altam@ocf.berkeley.edu (Allen Tam) writes:

>In article <1992Oct6.152612.20856@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:

>>You've already got two comm packages that support 14400+... you just need to
>>set them up right.  For either, set the bps of the BBS you are calling to
>>19200... make sure RTS/CTS is enabled... and you should see beautiful 14400
>>bps connects using either program.  If not, there may be something wrong,
>>but not with the programs -- both are used at high speed on a regular basis.

>You're right, since I pushed it to 19.2k, everything works okay now.  All I
>have to say that going at 14.4 is COOL. :)

If you have fast RAM, I would recommend using 38400 bps. The 2.0 serial.device
or baudbandit.device are fast enough to handle this, and you will, in some
cases, get even more throughput (using MNP5 or V.42bis). Okay, this is 
marginal, but I use 38400 and it works great.
--
Osma Ahvenlampi  -  oahvenla@niksula.cs.hut.fi
My opinions are mine, and though someone else may share them, that's not my
fault. You may freely agree or disagree with me, I don't much care.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: mcphil@med.unc.edu (Philip McNamara)
Subject: WHAT MODEM IS THIS!!!!
Originator: mcphil@cahaba
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:49:40 GMT

Help me Identify this modem. 
Externally it is approximately 1.75 inches high by 7.5 wide
and 11.5 inches deep.  It is white with a smoked plastic front 
panel.  There are didoes (under the panel) labeled like this:

            HS | AA | CD | OH | RD | SD | TR | MR

On the right-front side, above the power switch there is graphic with
the number 2400 between a horizontal red bar and a blue bar:
 
                     [[[[[[  <- red
                      2400 
                     [[[[[[  <- blue

On the left-front side there is an embossed V.42bis logo.  No other 
external markings.

So I says to myself, great I got a 2400 baud V.42bis modem.
Sadly however, no docs or anything.  Lets look inside and see if there 
are any more clues....

Internally, the unit uses the Rockwell chip-set.  There is only one jumper 
labeled E1 and no dip switches.  The EPROM has a sticker on it that says:

                      V42V32
                      EBC8 M5F

The back of the PCB says:

                     COPYRIGHT 1990
                     V42 PCB REV 1.6

-and-

                     hTe-1 94v-0

Any guesses as to what I have?  More to the point, what registers
control the V.42bis modes?  Basically, how can I get the most out of it?

Thank you for any info you might have.

Philip McNamara 
McPhil@med.unc.edu
From: bell@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Term 2.4
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:47:50 GMT


	I have term2.4 now and I have virtually no problems with it now.
Good Vt100 emulation now, good quick clipping(never had clipping crash on me
but it was incredibly slow and I'm on a A3000).  However I have one thing that
is weird.  ON the Screen section under settings the screen options aren't
listed properly.  I get all Unknowns instead of Hires, Hires-Interlace, etc.
I don't have this problem with other programs like GadtoolsBox for example so
it must be Term.  By trial and error I got Hires-Interlace which is what I
wanted so it's not a big deal but I just find it wierd.
    Thanks for any suggestions!!

			Shane L. Bell
			bell@ecs.umass.edu
From: jimdawson@cup.portal.com (Jim R Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: QWK off-line message reader for Amiga?
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:11:26 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <HeBcsB2w165w@infopls.chi.il.us>

>jcm@daimi.aau.dk (Jens Christian Mikkelsen) writes:
>
>> Does anyone know of a good off-line message reader for the Amiga, that will
>> read message packets in the .QWK format?
>>
>Try Amiga REader.  It's up to V2.  If you can't find it anywhere,
>I'll try to UUENCODE a copy.
>

You can also try AmiQWK (Try to find version 1.2.1, it is the latest
version) which I am rather partial to (mostly because I wrote it ;-)

                                            jimdawson@cup.portal.com
From: jlpetru@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Jack Petrucha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Term 2.4 Still I find a bug...
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 23:36:09 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

 Well I seem to have a small problem with the Program Term also.  I have 
played abpout with it for about 4 or five hours now and it seems that if 
you use say an 11 point font for the screen font and forget to switch it 
to Hires-Lace you cannot see the bottom of the window to change the font 
in under the Screen and Terminal windows.  Also the same item has occured 
with not being able to use my old prefs.  All the others like mt 
fastmacros, macros and all work but the term.prefs and phonebook.prefs 
are incompatible and no conversion program.  
        Above this little interlace 11point font problem i enjoy 'term' 
greatly and am very impressed overall, however the only little problem I 
have with the new 2.4 is the translation tables.  I seem to have to use 
the PC-8 on any IBM BBS even with the IBM font set in place and then I 
must use the GB one for Amiga and the Usenet.  Other than that maybe I 
misread the manual and such but I don't understand this too well.  
Another this is that I was wondering if there would possibly be a 
japenese translations packet for Term or is that way out to lunch since I 
do, or would like to see this but I know not how to achieve it myself...

Jack Petrucha              jlpetru@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: tommyi@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Tommy The King)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Buying a High Speed Modem
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:06:32 GMT
Organization: DVL, Uppsala University
Reply-To: tommyi@minsk.docs.uu.se
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

maxc1169@steer.sdsu.edu (Yuan-chi Chiu) writes:

>    I have roughly $250 to spend on a high speed modem.

>    Basically I want 9600 or 14,4K transfer speed.  Duel standard (sportster)
>is not very important, but would be nice.  I might want the FAX ability.  But
>"Caller ID" and "Voice" (what's voice?) is not important.

>    Most importantly is that the modem should be able to connect and maintain a
>steady transmission with the most host modems without overheat, going crazy,
>or incapable of connecting at high speed baud rate, etc.

go get an OLD sportster modem (max revision 4.1!) and write:
ATGW03C6,22GW05CD,2F and oops u got yourself a 16k8 ds with fax!
(yes, i know.. old news.. but it works..)

_______  __ ______          _______ 
\  ___ \ \_|\  __ \\ /\   /\\  ___ \  /\          !! 1.2 Gig Amiga !!
 \/| |\ \| ||\/_/ // \ \ /  \\/| |\ \/  \
   | | \ \ ||    / \_/ // /\ \ | | \ \/\ \      +46-(0)18-463380 16k8 DS
   \ | / / |\ |\ \\   // /__\ \\ | / /__\ \     +46-(0)18-463381 16k8 DS
    \|/ / \| \|/ / \_//_____\\_\\|/ /___\\_\    +46-(0)18-463383 16k8 DS
      \/       \/                 \/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley)
Subject: Amiga to Unix
Summary: amiga to unix
Keywords: amiga unix
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:24:25 GMT

  Could someone please mail me information on what
would be required to dial in from home to the
university Unix system.

  I own an A500 1meg ram, 2 * 3 1/2 drives, and
a unix login.

  The system I use at uni has dial in access and
uses a VT100 terminal emulation.

  I have heard of the program VLT, but is this
all I need (besides a modem)

Ta Much
    chengster     chengm@sun.mech.uq.oz.au
From: Jamie_Krutz@a68k.denver.CO.US (Jamie Krutz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Dialing for voice
Distribution: world
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:22:27 MST
Organization: The Arvada 68K BBS- Westminster, CO

Quick question:  Can anyone give me a cli or ARexx script for dialing my
phone via my modem given a phone number to which I want to make a voice
call?  Basically I want to use my Amiga as an auto dialer.  I have a
database of phone numbers I can get at via cli or ARexx.

Thanks.
 -Jamie

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: dtiberio@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Best BBS...
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:36:28 GMT



	I have been searching for a bbs for about three weeks now. I have
made my choice; I ordered and downloaded a registered version of Excelsior
BBS, and I do not regret it.

	This program is a lot like CNet, which is very popular here in
Long Island. Some things it has that are very nice include a multiuser
system (I can log in as many people as I want right from my system!),
online chat conferences, and usenet compatibility. 

	For all of you still looking for a bbs, this is the one. There are
point and click interfaces and user selectable screenmodes and access to
details such as online text (can be made into foreign languages) and menus.


	I never heard of Excelsior until a few days ago, but it is well 
worth it so far. I can't wait to get my usenet feed! :)




-- 
      Amiga Graphics Association BBS (516) 473-6351  24 HRS, 14.4k baud
   RayTraces - 3D Objects - Music Modules - Sound Samples - Scalable Fonts
   David Tiberio - Total Productions         Coming Soon: USENET and EMAIL
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:6737 comp.sys.amiga.applications:7699
From: sarrasin@disuns2.epfl.ch (Christian Sarrasin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: GPFAX UPGRADE to V2.04
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:10:28 GMT
Reply-To: sarrasin@disuns2.epfl.ch (Christian Sarrasin)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <Maurizio_Fabiani.0223@maui.sublink.org> Maurizio_Fabiani@maui.sublink.org (Maurizio Fabiani) writes:
>> are THREE possible patch archives.
>> 
>> patchsupra         : for Supra versions 2.01 2.5.92
>> patch920502        : for generic version 2.01 2nd May 1992
>> patch920610        : for generic version 2.01 10th June 1992

Could some kind soul post these on a FTP site as soon as he gets them?

Thank you!

Christian

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                   "This ain't the Planet of Sound" -- Pixies
                     \\\ Stay tuned for more Rock'n'Roll ///
       Christian Sarrasin (sarrasin@di.epfl.ch || sarrasin@eldi.epfl.ch)
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From: mpeters@uceng.UC.EDU (Mark Andrew Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Term 2.4 still broken!
Keywords: Term
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:14:58 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati, Engineering College

Just tried it from a virgin boot.  Held down both mouse buttons, booted
with no startup-sequence.  I set the stack to 100k, assigned ENV: to
ram:env and copied envarc: to env: and ran Term.  I then went click-drag
on the screen, took about a dozen times, then Kaboom! 80...03
Let me say again, AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
From: csmall@uts.EDU.AU (-s90064116-c.small-ele-60-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: About the TCP/IP calls
Date: 9 Oct 1992 03:21:21 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: acacia.ccsd.uts.edu.au
Summary: Does a specification exist for TCP/IP on Amiga?
Keywords: TCP/IP AmigaNOS
Organisation: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia

G'day All,
  What I am going to try to do is to get an external program to talk to 
  a communications program called AmigaNOS.  Essentially what I need to
  know is what is the standard way of doing this.  I assume something like
  a library would be used and my external program would then call routines
  in the library to get info in and out.

  The thing is, is there a set of standards or procedures to do this?  I
  wouldn't like to make something that wasn't at least trying to be
  compatible with whatever norms there are.

  Another thing is, is there anyone working on this already?  My programming
  abilities are going to greatly slow me down but as it will be only for my
  own amusement this isn't a problem but if someone is a little ahead of me
  then things willmove a little faster.

  Thanks,
    Craig


//   /\     |    |   |  | |   ... Craig Small   [44.136.8.58] ... ...
||==|--|====|====|===|==|=|   ... INTERNET: csmall@uts.edu.au ... ...
\\   \/     |    |   |  | |   ... AMPR    : VK2XLZ@VK2XSB ... ... ...
--
//   /\     |    |   |  | |   ... Craig Small   [44.136.8.58] ... ...
||==|--|====|====|===|==|=|   ... INTERNET: csmall@uts.edu.au ... ...
\\   \/     |    |   |  | |   ... AMPR    : VK2XLZ@VK2XSB ... ... ...
From: thly@pe.chalmers.se (Thomas Lydhig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Throughput on a Supra 14.4 FaxModem
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:50:25 GMT

Try BaudBandit.device! See News about this in this news group!

	/ Thomas Lydhig, Sweden