HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shanega@athena.mit.edu (Shane G. Artis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.forsale.computers,ny.forsale
Subject: NeXTcube for sale - $5600
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:09:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr15.220936.20632
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


I am selling a NeXTcube package which consists of:

	Hardware:

	68040 Cube
	12 MB RAM
	256 MB Optical Drive
	105 MB Hard Drive
	2.8 MB PLI SuperFloppy drive
	Clear, focused MegaPixel display
	Old style keyboard
	2400 baud data modem (Hayes compatible)
	3 Optical Disks
	
	Software:

	Lotus Improv, Mathematica, WriteNow, NeXTstep 2.1 extended,
	SoftPC, much else.

The asking price is $5600 for everything, though I will certainly
consider reasonable offers.  The system is in excellent condition, the
optical drive is working perfectly and is quite new, and I am selling
only to move to a color system.  I will also gladly consider trades
for color stations.

I don't want to split up the system, though I will consider bids for
the optical drive.

Make me an offer!

Shane
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: GUI's versus TVs (was Re: SEF did it again)
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:19:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: nic.SCOTT.92Apr11141947
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
In-reply-to: fox@cs.nyu.edu's message of 11 Apr 92 14:00:50 GMTLines: 36

In article <FOX.92Apr11090050@graphics.nyu.edu> fox@cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) writes:
>In article <SCOTT.92Apr11024138@nic.gac.edu> scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes:
>
>   <A GUI is to a command-line as a TV is to a book>
>
>Take this anti-NeXT propaganda to comp.editors.ed!  :)

Think about the line.  Would the world really be a better place
without _any_ televisions?  Doesn't television have a lot of
potential (whether that is realized isn't part of my point :-)?
Would anyone in their right mind suggest that since we've got
television we can just get rid of books?

People suggest all of the time that "we've got a GUI, let's get rid of
command lines".  I'd love to see those people find all of the files in
the current directory which contain the word "custom".  Sure, you
can whip up a quick GUI program to do it, no problem.  OK, now find the
words in a case insensitive manner - again, you could modify the
program.  Now exclude files ending with .o or that are executable.
Then take all of the files that end with .Z and run them through zcat
before searching.  If you've still kept up, apply the things
mentioned recursively to subdirectories.  OK, then add the
ability to do a regex search, put filenames and line numbers in
front of matching lines, and mail the result to a list of people.

GUI's let any old user do many things on a computer.  They also let a
very advanced user do the same things - but it doesn't give the
advanced user much more access than the novice!

Sorry if it sounds like I jumped on you.  I just chose to take your
reply seriously :-).

Later,
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12901 Upton Avenue South, #326  Burnsville, MN  55337  (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
From: john@nextdoor.com (John McCracken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How do I make shell prompt show working directory?
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:27:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: nextdoor.1992Apr7.072725.6379
Reply-To: john@nextdoor.com
Organization: Nextdoor Software, San Jose, CA, USA

In article <basiji.702614445@milton> basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David  
Basiji) writes:
> 
> The subject pretty much says it all.  I really miss this from my life
> in the DOS world.  How do I modify my .cshrc or .login to make this 
> happen?  
>

I use /bin/csh as the default shell, and here's what I have in my .login file:

	set myhost=`hostname`
	alias SetPrompt 'set prompt="${myhost} [$cwd]-\\!% "'
	alias cd        'cd \!* && SetPrompt'
	alias cdl       'cd \!*; ls'
	cd

This yields a prompt like:

	nextdoor [/john/Library]-3% 

where "nextdoor" is the host, "/john/Library" is the current working directory,
and "3" is the command number.  The "cd" command has been modified to update
the prompt whenever I change directories, and "cdl" changes directories and
gives a listing of the new directory's contents.

-- 
 John McCracken
 john@nextdoor.com
From: aozer@next.com (Ali Ozer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CURSOR DISAPPEARS (NEED HELP !!)
Keywords: CURSOR DISAPPEARS (NEED HELP!!)
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:38:17 GMT
Organization: Next Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Apr3.203625.3713@umbc3.umbc.edu> Polu Harinath writes:
>The cursor on the NeXTstation has begun disappearing on a periodic basis. It  
>comes back when I power off and power up the system.

Sounds like you are running an app which is not restoring the cursor properly
or is crashing while the cursor is disabled. You should see if you can find out
if there is such an application; if this is indeed the case then make sure
you report it as a bug.

However, for those times you do get stuck without a cursor and you definitely
need it: One way to get the cursor back is to send the "showcursor" operator 
to the window server... Here's how you can do this:

- launch Terminal
- when the window comes up, type "pft" followed by return. It should say
  "Connection to PostScript established."
- type "showcursor" and hit return; if you don't get the cursor back, type
  "showcursor" a few more times. 
- one you get your cursor back (you might have to jiggle the mouse to see it),
  hit Control-D to exit pft...

Again, this is no standard operating procedure, it's just some emergency info.
Of course, it's always interesting to try to launch Terminal without a cursor;
the right-mouse button comes in handy (if you have right-mouse menu enabled).

Ali, Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com
From: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Installing SIMMs --- Any trick to it?
Keywords: SIMM, memory
Date: 3 Apr 92 17:07:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: engin.wDh+Wp+
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor



Hi!

I am about to install SIMMs in a NeXT and would appreciate
any info (DIP swiches, etc. ????).  The details of my project 
are:
I have 2 NeXTs, one 8Mb and the other 16Mb.  I have just 
received a 16Mb Memory Expansion Kit for the 8Mb machine
and would like to end up with two 20Mb machines.  Is there
anything to it?  I've never done this before.

				Gisli
From: tms@twins.lanl.gov (Todd M. Swan)
Subject: Re: PixelMagician ships !!!
Reply-To: tms@twins.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:02:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.195357.1359@bacchus.com> bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom)  
writes:
> 		A Universal Picture File Viewer and Translator
> 			      for NeXT Computers
> 
> 
> Santa Monica, CA - April 13, 1992 - Bacchus, Inc. ships version 1.0 of Pixel
> Magician, a universal picture file viewer and translator for NeXT computers
> that allows users to view, import, export and manipulate a wide variety of
> image files.
<snip>
> Pixel Magician has a suggested retail price of $299 and is available directly
> from Bacchus and through authorized NeXT distributors, VAR's and dealers.   
Free
> demo disks are available immediately from Bacchus.
<snip>

Am I the only one that thinks this is incredibly overpriced?   It's only a  
viewer and converter right?  It would be worth that for an *editor*.  Not to  
mention the fact nearly all these conversions can be done with stuff that is  
free from the net.  The $99 student price seems like it should be the list  
price.

Just my $.02...

Todd
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!  software for a PC."  ! tms@lanl.gov  (NeXTMail)      !
!  -- Steve Jobs on     ! Los Alamos National Laboratory!
!     NeXTstep '486     ! Los Alamos, NM  87545         !
From: h2o@cup.portal.com (Miljenko - Horvat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need HELP _ Will pay
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:30:36 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I am giving up trying to do this myself therefore:

I need somebody who would be willing to fix the following 
on-site. I have a Neuron Fax96+ modem and an existing UUCP 
account with Portal. So far despite hours of trying I have 
not been able to get everything to work and want somebody 
who can get me to the point where my UUCP works so that 
I can receive NeXt mail andf who can show me how to 
download and set up public domain software.

I am in Bedford Hills NY (about 50 minutes north of NYC). 
Please send you proposal with hourly rate. If you are at 
school not more than 1 hour away I am willing to pick 
you up and deliver back at the end of the day.

Thanks,


Miljenko Horvat
H2O@cup.portal.com
(914) 242-9852
fax   242-9853
From: toon@moene.uucp (Toon Moene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Cool .dir.tiff/.opendir.tiff (small RTF)
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:39:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.020819.157@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@ihcoco.att.com  
(Felix A. Lugo) writes:
> 
> 	I don't know what you're talking about!  8-)
> 
> 	What I do know, however, is that a bigoted FEW want to
> 	DICTATE what other people may or may not do in this newsgroup;
> 	-- AND I'M SICK OF IT!  (I should have used RTF for this line).
> 
> 	c.s.n.MISC:  Hum, it's name sure fits where such postings
> 		     CAN be made!
>  
========================================================================== 
=
> Felix A. Lugo
> 
> E-Mail: (NeXTmail preferred)			Felix_A_Lugo@ATT.COM
> 						coco@ihcoco.att.com
>      AT&T NeXT User Group			nug@ihcoco.att.com

       ^^^^ It has been written before: NOTE WHOM WE'RE PAYING TO
	    FOR THESE RTF/PICTURE/SOUNDS POSTS.

>      HOME NeXTcube				home@ihcoco.att.com
>  
========================================================================== 
=

Sorry, Felix, but you're not unbiased in this respect.

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Tel.: + 31 20 6982029; Fax: + 31 20 6003411
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From: davis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert E Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Poster
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:18:40 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Okay,
	I have a simple request.

	Here at Purdue we have, on the walls of several buildings and
offices, a particular NeXT poster, about 1 1/2 feet high and 4 feet
long, featuring profiles of the components of an original NeXT Cube
system.  (The "Beauty Shot" I'm told it is called.)  And across the
bottom it says something like "September 1988 -- Computing Moves to
the NeXT Level."

	I've called NeXT, and they don't have them anymore.  Allen
Braunsdorf (ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu -- one of our local NeXT folk) was
kind enough to dig out a similar poster of a magazine ad circa 1989
for me -- very neat.  But no one here wants to part with the "NeXT
Level" poster.

	So my request is this:  Is there anyone out there who has one
of these posters that they'd be willing to part with?  A CC (or former
CC) perhaps?  I'd probably pay money :-)


Robert
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| Robert Davis
| davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu                                NeXT Mail accepted
| "Look up, Hannah.  Look up." 
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.misc:13923 talk.politics.misc:17896
From: michael@stb.info.com (Michael Gersten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Economy
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:50:13 GMT
Organization: STB BBS, La, Ca, 310 397 3137

In article <1992Mar20.110353.16614@yang.earlham.edu> andrewh@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>No.  Consumers can only choose from available goods and services.  If 
>someone wants to buy a car, refrigerator, or television that will last 
>twenty to thirty years, they're out of luck.  Companies don't sell things 
>that last, because if they did, everyone's needs would be filled for the 
>long-term, and production would be unnecessary.  
> ...
>No one really knows what the "best" system is.  The point is we all better 
>stop our ideological idololatry and foolish demagogery before too long, or 
>we'll have a real disaster on our hands, environmental or otherwise. 
>
>Andrew Hagen
>andrewh@yang.earlham.edu

Actually, we do know what the best system is. It is defined by the following:

1. Free entry and exit into/from markets
2. No hidden costs
3. Commodity goods -- No brand names, all sizes standardized/exchangable
4. Free information
5. No one has so much of an item for sale that they can cause a major
	effect on the market by themself.

At least, those are the textbook definitions. You also need

6. Market based buying/selling	(obvious)
7. Rational consumers (not so obvious).

Then, you get the best for SOCIETY. This is very different than the best
for the individual members of society.

Whats the difference? Compare two plans. Under 1, A makes $50. Under 2,
A loses $50, but B gains $200. Since under 2, B could pay A $100, and still
be $100 ahead, 2 is a better plan for society. Except that A will not be
paid the compensation, and will hate the result.

So who said that a free market was the best possible solution?

A better question: Just what is the question that all the various
economies are trying to solve? (This is not a trivial question).

This should be directed to an economy group (sci.economics?), but
we don't get them here.

		Michael
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From: sauer@chs.dell.com (Charlie Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: New Dell 486
Summary: prior comp.newprod post was for VGA systems; DGX (JAWS) announced today
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:50:57 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Corporation

In article <1992Apr6.031328.5486@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.044708.260@hfs.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>  
>bhead@hfs.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head) writes:
>>  Andrew Loewenstern writes
>>  > In article <95965@mcdchg.chg.mcd.mot.com> info@dellunix.dell.com (Info  
>>  Account)  
>>  > writes:
>>  > >  
>>  > >                 NEW DELL MODELS MAKE 50-MEGAHERTZ POWER
>>  > >                    AFFORDABLE FOR MAINSTREAM PC USERS
>>  > Sounds like this puppy was almost designed for NeXTstep 486!  Prices start  
>at  
>>  > $4599.  If that's with a monitor, some RAM, and a hard-drive, it's a  
>pretty  
>>  > good deal.  Especially since it runs a 50-mhz internally.
>>  > 
>>  > 
>>  
>>  I saw an ad on the back of PC-Mag quoting a price of $2999 for 50MHz-486  
>Dell
>>  (I believe comes with 14in colour).

>Yes, but the newly announced Dell is a 486 EISA with direct-to-bus video.  I am  
>willing to be the $2999 486 you saw was an ISA box.  Big difference.

The comp.newprod posting that spurred this thread was for i486DX2 50MHz machines
with 1024x768 VGA, which start at $2799 for ISA machines, more for EISA.

The processor direct graphics product, DGX, based on the "JAWS" prototype shown
at Fall Comdex and January Uniforum/NeXT Expo, was formally announced today.  
I've sent the press release to comp.newprod.  Two key excerpts:

	     The Dell PowerLine 450DE/2 DGX will support up to 1280 x
	1024 resolution with 256 colors and high color modes of up to
	64,000 colors at 1152 x 900 resolution.  The system also supports
	ergonomic refresh rates of up to 72Hz.

	     The Dell PowerLine 450DE/2 DGX is scheduled to ship in May
	and includes a 32-bit EISA (Extended Industry Standard
	Architecture) bus.  Pricing for the system starts at $5,499
	including four-megabytes (MB) of random access memory (RAM),
	expandable to 96MB; 128-kilobytes (K) of secondary cache memory;
	2MB of video RAM; a 3.5-inch, 1.44MB or 5.25-inch, 1.2MB diskette
	drive; an 80MB hard disk drive; and a 16-inch, high-performance
	Dell Graphics Performance Display (GPD) monitor.
--
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From: tony@blumen.nctu.edu.tw (Tony Guo)
Subject: Software industry in Taiwan
Reply-To: tony@blumen.nctu.edu.tw (Tony Guo)
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 05:37:20 GMT

The revenue of Taiwan information industry will increase from NT420  
billions to NT700 billions in year 2,000. There will be NT500 billions  
from the software industry. (1US=25NT)

As I know, most users in Taiwan are under the MeSs-DOS. Is Taiwan going to  
be the biggest third-party for Mr. Bill Gates??

How much money to buy a PC 486 with VGA 1024x768 monitor with 8MB RAM,  
200MB HD? Less than NT60,000(=US 2,400). 

Do you want to share this BIG market and earn large mount of money ? 

You must know that PowerPC, Window NT and Solorias, and you know that all  
of them WILL suppport to PC. It's era for interpersonal computer in the  
1990s and NeXT win the initiation. Of course MS, SUN, and other companies  
that produce system may have a big share. Since the Window NT and Solorias  
are still the vaporwares. NeXT should seize this chance to get into the  
Taiwan market. There are tons of money. Last year, Bill Gates come to  
Taiwan for 3 times to make his market (earn his money) and visit   
President Li of Taiwan. Who knows that he will earn how much prefit of the  
700 billions from Taiwan in 2000 ? 

What's the best NeXT product for Taiwan ? "Finally, there is a best  
software for PC" NeXTstap 486. 
--
Tony 
President of Taiwan NeXT User Group
From: jmuscat@nexus.yorku.ca (John Muscat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Reconfiguring a Netinfo Server
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:25:51 GMT
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Originator: jmuscat@nexus.yorku.ca


I'm VERY new to the NeXT so pardon me if this is a trivial question.

	Q. After setting up a  Netinfo & Configuration server can one change
	   its hostname and/or unconfigure it as a server.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Muscat
Mathematics & Statistics
York University
North York, Canada
M3J 1P3

email: jmuscat@nexus.yorku.ca
voice: (416) 736-2100 x88604
fax:   (416) 736-5735
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From: bob@mwhhlaw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Installing SoftPC & Mathematica
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:31:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: mwhhlaw.1992Apr14.133130.2329
Reply-To: uunet!mwhhlaw!bob
Distribution: na
Organization: Martin_Wade_Hartley_&_Hollingsworth

My private email reply bounced.
In comp.sys.next.misc article  
<1992Apr11.232547.19789@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> you wrote:
> I have two questions.  One pertaining to the installation of SoftPC  
and the
> other to the installation of Mathematica.
>
> 1.  The SoftPC manual states that after running the installation  
program
> there should be a "SoftPC.app" directory into which I copy the file
> "bios2.rom".  After installing I get a "SoftPC.app" file NOT a  
directory.
> I can't execute the file because it is looking for "bios2.rom".  What  
am I
> doing wrong?
>
On our SoftPC, we had to be real careful.

1. Absolutely be logged on as root when you install or it won"t work.
2. After the NeXT Installer App finished, there was another install  
script on one of the floppy disks that we had to run separately.
3.  Finally, SoftPC.app is a directory, it just does not show up with  
the diamond in the browser.  But if you highlight it, and select File  
on the WorkSpace menu, the Open As Folder menu item should be  
available.
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From: coco@ihcoco.att.com (Felix A. Lugo)
Subject: Re: Cool .dir.tiff/.opendir.tiff (small RTF)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, I.L.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:54:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.200738.18240@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu writes:
| 
| Neat TIFFs.  Isn't the preferred method of distributing such things
| though the ftp archives, though...
| 
| --
| Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
| Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
| New Haven, CT
| nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

	Not any more !!   8^)

	I love RTF-NewsGrazer ... Keep-em coming gentry!

===========================================================================
Felix A. Lugo

E-Mail: (NeXTmail preferred)			Felix_A_Lugo@ATT.COM
						coco@ihcoco.att.com
     AT&T NeXT User Group			nug@ihcoco.att.com
     HOME NeXTcube				home@ihcoco.att.com
===========================================================================
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SimonSays(tm): the Review
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:17:05 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@cubetech.com

In article <sa9bsINNsa8@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi  
Ohzawa) writes:
>  In article <1992Apr12.181020.775@venice.sedd.trw.com>
>  verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) writes:
>  
>  > I've used Simon for a number of weeks now with a number of mics and can
>  > definitely say that the mic's quality and it's rejection of background  
noise
>  > make a large difference in recognition rate.
>  
>  When you change the mics, do you have to retrain Simon?
>  
>  Or can the recognition rate be improved by retraining?

You probably should retrain after changing mics.  Yes you can improve  
recognition by retraining.  Simon is very sensitive to how you say a word, and  
usually you can say some words much more consistantly than others.  Also, the  
way your voice sounds can make some words better than others.  You don't have  
to say the same word as what's on the screen... i.e. I use 'finder' instead of  
'workspace' since I get better recognition on that one.  I get much better  
recognition on 'disappear' than 'hide_app'.   I've found that Simon just can't  
**EVER** understand me when I say 'terminal', so I say 'unix' which he  
understands pretty well.

I've noticed that the only people who have posted to the net saying 'Simon is a  
piece of crap and I just returned it.' are people who tried to make Simon do  
things it just can't do; namely try to train a kabillion short words and expect  
it to recognize them quickly and accurately (a la dictation), or want to shout  
at it, or make it respond to it's own sounds, etc...  Simon definitely isn't  
perfect, but it works pretty well if you make an effort to pick good words and  
say them consistently, etc...

It takes a long time to get Simon to work properly for you.  Mainly it just  
takes a while to train yourself to say things consistently, and to get Simon  
trained right...


andrew
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Cube Technologies, Inc.       |   next door; let's go." --- e.e. cummings
From: mp@augur.han.de (Mathias Pruestel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re:  NeXT Software-Developer email address-list
Date: 11 Apr 92 11:07:34 GMT
Organization: Pruestel Group

Is there an  email address-list for NeXT Software Developers available?
We need it for GENEUS, the german user group umbrella organization.
Thanks in advance!

Mathias Pruestel
Managing Director, GENEUS
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