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From: steve@rmit.edu.au (Steve Iatropoulos)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LDR Contest!
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:26:25 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Business, RMIT
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In article <199211090210.AA00671@mihi.une.edu.au> jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) writes:
>From: jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets)
>Subject: Re: LDR Contest!
>Date: 8 Nov 1992 20:11:20 -0600

>zyang@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zhaohui Yang):
>> scott@ssvs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Scott) writes:
>> 
>>>I'm more a reader than a writer, but here's a quick start for a thread:
>>>Who's got the longest? (Oops, obsede', that sounds like alt.sex material)
>> 
>>>Some lines I've noticed since finding a.r:
>>>mvb@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael V. Barreca) says:
>>>>Great, now I'm depressed. (my girlfriend lives 300 miles away)
>>>stuarta@syd.dms.csiro.au (Stuart Andrews) says:
>>>>She live in Melbourne, Australia, and I in Sydney, Australia
>>>>A separation of some 750 kilimetres. If that isn't a LDR,
>>>>nothing is :-)
>well, I live in Armidale, NSW, Autralia
>and the woman I love, who does not love me anymore
>lives in Bloomington, Indiana, USA

>is that far enough???


>--
>/------------------------jbell@mihi.une.edu.au--------------------------\
>| Strange how laughter looks like crying with no sound, | Justin Bell   |
>| Raindrops taste like tears without the pain.          | +61-67-72-6247|
>\-------------90 Taylor St., Armidale, NSW, 2350, AUSTRALIA-------------/


Ok beat this:
	1 yr LDR from Melbourne to Denny, Scotland...

Never ever ever again....

Steve
steve@rmit.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: wish me luck
Organization: Clark University
Date: 19 NOV 92 05:27:37 GMT

In a previous article, chorwit1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Cathy Horwitz) wrote:
>Hi,
>I'm new to this board, but I thought I'd share my (I think) very
>romantic idea.  I have never asked out a guy before, but I am VERY
>interested in someone.  I don't know his name or anything about him.  There
>is little chance that I will meet him if I don't approach him.  So... I am
>going to find out his name and mail him an anonymous letter asking him to
>meet me for dinner at my dorm.  Do you think he will come?  (To the guys)
>What would you think if someone did this to
>you?
Hiho.  Well...  I imagine if I got an "anonymous" letter like this, I'd have a 
hard time taking it seriously.  If I got a letter like this, I probably 
wouldn't go.  If I did, I'd be more interested as curiousity rather than 
romantic intent.  I suggest signing your name.  This way he'll know who he is 
to meet, and if he does show, there's a better chance he's "interested".  He'd 
also be able to call if he is interested but can't make the time of your 
invite.  Oh...if he doesn't even know your name by sight, he'd probably be 
VERY uncomfortable when meeting you on this date.  Not to put down the idea, 
but it just might not go well if he's more uncomfortable than need be.  I 
suggest somehow briefly meeting him before this letter goes out.  (Obviously 
the "traditional" thing would be the personal asking-out, but it sounds like 
you want to avoid this; that's ok too.)

I have been asked out by women.  Hooray for equal rights :-) !

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From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:29:19 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <MARTINC.92Nov18222436@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>
>I would like to know more about these zerbit's though.

A zerbit is when one takes a baby, pulls its undershirt up to bare its
chubby little stomach, puts one lips onto bare stomach, and says "BLLLBPTH!"
The baby then squeals with joy, and rips a handful or two of hair out to
show its appreciation.

I suppose you could do it to older people to, but they probably won't squeal
and as far as I'm concerned that's the whole point.

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Re: I know she takes me for granted, but...
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:30:29 GMT


Gee....I have been reading this thread...and I suddenly 
saw my life flash before my eyes!

I, too, have been guilty of giving and giving and not getting
much in return... I have a friend I have know for years and years,
for several years, fancied myself in love with him....

I always called him, always invited him places, etc. etc...
he would always accept...since we were good friends...but
he rarely ever returned the favour...(maybe i just never gave
him much of a chance!)

I also made it very clear that i was in love with him, but
i never pushed him to tell me how he felt about me, or whether
he thought we could ever be "more than friends"...he told me
once that he did love me....but i knew from the fact that he
never took me seriously that it wasn't really the same love i
felt for him.... so i spent four years in a "social boyfriend/
girlfriend relationship"....he had a "date" for everything,
but never displayed romantic overtones or went too much out
of the way for me..

then this year, i met someone who literally swept me off my
feet...and truly has appreciated me from day one....so,
needless to say, i don't have too much time anymore (or the
inclination) to call my friend as often as i used to..or
to go out with him as often....

and ya know what?  now *he* calls me nearly everyday,
and it's always him who asks me to go places and do things...
and since now i know i love him as a friend, of course, we
still do things...but it's funny to think how once i would have

..oops....rapturous to have all this attention from him..

so i guess my advice to the orginial poster is that 
*YES* ...hard as it is...take care of yourself first
and don't let yourself be walked on....

sometimes they gotta feel your absence to appreciate
your presence....

cheers,


Dawn
-- 
..Who else but us could find our joy walking home
                 through the puddles;
  With a milkshake in your pocket
                       .....and a box on my head.      dsb '87
From: chyde@pecos.ads.com (Clinton Hyde)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: I'll Call You
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:54:26 GMT
	<1992Nov16.000822.11932@bsu-ucs>
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mountain View, CA 94043, +1 (415)
	960-7300


I think the "Don't call me, I'll call you" interpretation is the
correct one.

I don't remember ever saying that to a woman and then not doing so, so
I can't speak from personal experience.

 -- clint
--

Clint Hyde		"Give me a LispM or give me death!" -- anonymous

Advanced Decision Systems/BAH	Internet:  chyde@chesapeake.ads.com
1953 Gallows Rd, Suite 600
Vienna, VA  22182-3934		(703) 902-7130
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:34:37 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>In article <amymw.721677596@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Amy Wisotsky) writes:

>It depends entirely on the person in question.  I know people
>that have started relationships within the same week, and others who
>are still hurting almost a year afterwards.  I think part of it
>depends on the length and intensity of the relationship that ended.

And on how likely the person in question is to eat hir own liver
about things after their old relationship has ended.

Rob T, who's had quite enough liver for one lifetime, thankyouverymuch :-)
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
From: M.J.Jennings@amtp.cam.ac.uk (Michael Jennings)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: "Just Happens"
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:49:33 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, DAMTP

In article <Uf3hIni00iV304k1oS@andrew.cmu.edu>, ph2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul S. Hrynko) writes:
|> 
|> An Example:  My SO and I have also been going out for 1.5 years.  We
|> used to be academic rivals, hating everything the other said and did. 
|> But there were times where we would happen to be in the same place at
|> the same time.  Eventually, our hating spawned an interest in what the
|> other person was doing.  We came to the conclusion that we had never
|> seen each other socially.  She invited me to a dance.  We became distant
|> again a few weeks later. Then Good Friends. A year and a half later, I
|> dumped my current girlfriend, because I was in love with her.  She came
|> up to me out of the blue and told me she loved me.  BAM!  Our paths had
|> crossed.  I didn't do any work at all, neither did she.  We had somehow
|> formed a relationship.  And today, a year later,  over 338 miles apart,
|> we are in love.  When we separated at the end of this summer to go back
|> to college, we wanted to see how we would act apart, to see how OUR
|> relationship would be.  Now, I don't even consider leaving our
|> relationship, and she the same.  We do communicate more than any other
|> couple I know, and we are in love more than any other couple I know. 
|> But our communication is not "making" the relationship, it is nourishing
|> the relationship, and just happened.
|> 
|> Comments? Questions?

	Only that your story is wonderful. When at school I was in a
similar situation. I had a hated academic rival who I was never prepared to
get to know for silly jealous reasons. I similarly gradually got to know her
because the very fact that we were rivals in itself created some common
interests. However, when we were at school together I could never see through
the rivalry and wasn't able to see how special she was, and got hung up
on someone else instead, with disastrous results (see my previous postings).
When I finally figured out a few years later that I had a great deal of
admiration and respect for Ruth (the rival) I made a great deal of effort to
get back in touch with her and make up for my former blindness. There is 
nothing romantic in it (she is very serious with somebody else, and I was
still hung up about the other girl) but we are now *great* friends, and I'm
proud of that. However, I do sometimes wonder about what might have happened
if we'd been friends instead of rivals when we were a bit younger.

	Michael.

--
Michael Jennings
Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics
The University of Cambridge. 		mjj12@damtp.cambridge.ac.uk

Disclaimer: the opinions presented here are mine alone,
but they should be yours too because they're right.
From: cuvelier2724@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Benefit from parents divorce
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:51:37 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

There's been a lot of talk about marriage and why people get married as of
late.  Let me just say right now that I believe it is Love above and beyond
everything else.  But, if divorce were ever a good thing, it has been in one
respect for me.  I read somewhere that when two people with children divorce,
if those children are at the age of 5 or 11, it is even more difficult for them
because of the psychological unstability of those ages.  I was 5 years old when
my parents got divorced and I still deal with it on some level from time to
time.  Let me just say though that my parents divorce caused me to really be
picky when it came to selecting my lifetime partner.  I told myself a long time
ago that I was under no terms going to get married unless I was 110% sure that
he was the one for me.  Well, I finally found him and we're getting married
next June.  I KNOW that I won't be going through a divorce from the other side
because I saw the pain my parents suffered.  This may be a cocky statement
saying that I know I won't be getting a divorce.  But if you do things the
right way, the thought should never cross your mind.

                                             Sonia
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews)
Subject: Re: H*ll of a situation!
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:57:54 GMT


In a recent article, lani@askinc.ASK.COM (Lani Barton) writes...

>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> Absolutely! All the really nice women are either (a) married/attached 
>> (b) lesbian (c) dead (d) fictional. This is so obvious I don't know why we 
>> are constantly surprised by the fact.
>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> Gee, and all my female friends say that all the really nice men are either
> a) married b) gay  c) dead  d)don't exist, and all that are left are
> creeps, selfish bastards, and infants who want a mommy.  Maybe all these
> horrible single people should get together - seems like they deserve
> each other!  :>
> 
> (I'm obviously hinting for this guy to lighten up - he usually has very
> good posts, not this silliness)
> (Mail) End of article 22314 (of 22389)--what next? [npq] 

Yeh, tell him to lighten up, but not to stop. This, after all is how
Kezzle (s341031@insted.unimelb.edu.au) and I met.

Kerryn posted her "Men" poem, slagging of at men something chronic, I
wrote to her in private email telling her to lighten up and don't be
so down on guys - we aren't *all* like that!...

She wrote back, chatting me up <grin> (she will *kill* me for that!)
and the rest is history. A wonderful relationship has developed!

seeya all
s

-- 
  "Two to the power of one hundred thousand to one against.
    That's pretty improbable you know" (Ford Prefect)

"I do not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death
 for your right to say it" (Voltaire)
################################################################################
Stuart Andrews (stuarta@syd.dms.csiro.au)
Opinions posted here are mine and do not necessarily comply with those of CSIRO
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson)
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:27:58 GMT

In article <Bxvxyx.Mqq@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU> stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews) writes:
>
>In a recent article, Juha Taina  taina@cs.helsinki.fi writes...
>
>> I'd like to ask why people share *hugs* and *kisses* on the net.  What
>> is the value of them?  Would you also hug and kiss a stranger in real
>> life?
>
>alt.romance as you have probably guessed is a fairly 'touchy-feely' group
>filled with nice, kind people who like to be nice to each other. Also,
>electronic mail/news can tend to be quite intimate in it's nature between
>the 'right' people. People express their feelings and thoughts much more
>readily in email/news than they do face to face.
>
Soc.singles, on the other hand, is a fairly 'gropey-snarly' group
filled with nasty, bitter people who like to pick on anyone who
says anything remotely cute.  E-mail/news tends to be quite nasty
in it's nature between everyone.  People are just as obnoxious and
cynical in person.

>There are lots of other <affectionate actions> or just <actions> too..
>
>Try <kiss>, <smooch>, <zerbit> (don't ask!), <sigh>, <laugh>, <confused smile>
><smiles>, <laughs till he cries>, <giggle>, <strange look>, 
><here we go again look>...

Here on soc.singles we tend to use other expressions, such
as <snarf>, <gag>, <SNORK>, and <*barf*>.

>
>hope this helps... and keep on <kiss>ing!

Watch out for those cross-posts...and keep on <SMACK>ing.
-- 
  Dave Johnson

"You're not too smart, are you?  I like that in a man."
    --Kathleen Turner in Body Heat
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: A Question
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:17:19 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <l0t1a#b@rpi.edu> petitc@rpi.edu writes:
>
>  I have a simple question:
>
>  If you _knew_ you had to break up with your SO, no way out, would you want
>to have an exact date, or not?  And what would you do before the imminent
>breakup?
>
I would tell her right away, and expect to break up right away. I would
not want to be in a position for very long where I knew we would be 
breaking up and she did not.

I would have to think first about how to handle the possibility that
she might want to stay together as long as possible. Without spending a
lot of time thinking about it, I think I would still insist on breaking
up right away. I think it would be more painful to drag it out once
you were sure that you would break up.

Peace,
Michael.
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From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:24:43 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:

>I'd like to ask why people share *hugs* and *kisses* on the net.  What
>is the value of them?  

In my experience, if I share a hug on the net, and later on I meet the
individual in person, I again share a hug with them, this time a
physical hug.

Therefore, network hugs should be taken at face value.

(Network kisses, and beyond, are slightly dicier, but hugs
are pretty reliable.)

>Would you also hug and kiss a stranger in real life?

"Real life"  -- what's that?


/sp
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Amy Wisotsky)
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:10:00 GMT

schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:

>In article <BxtMtu.DAL@rice.edu> mmzn@rice.edu (Mark Mazina) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Nov15.151337.13175@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>>|> In article <amymw.721677596@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Amy Wisotsky) writes:
>>|> 
>>|> >A new boy/girlfriend can be found when the person is ready to find
>>|> >one.  It depends entirely on the person in question.  
>>|>
>>|> Well, I'm glad to hear that relationships are so easy to stumble upon at
>>|> Brandeis, Amy.  There's a lot of people out there that are "ready to
>>|> find one", but are still alone.  Consider the possibility that you don't
>>|> live in a college atmosphere anymore where you're surrounded by nothing
>>|> but people of your own age group that you're constantly interacting
>>|> with.  That's the great thing about college, isn't it?  It's just a big
>>|> pool of people that you can go out with on the weekend.  Well, after
>>|> that artificial world ends, your friends might find it difficult to
>>|> meet someone new within the week.
>>
>>This presumes Amy is a 20-something student, but what if she's a 36 year old (exactly) staff member at a University... 
>>
>>Part of communicating is learning to restrain our own pre-conceptions.

>Then accept my humble apologies.

I should probably put my two cents in, since I'm being talked about
here.  *grin* The original impression received was correct: I do
happen to be a 20 year old college student.  However, that shouldn't
impact my post at all.  The main point was that there isn't a specific
time limit where a new relationship is allowed to start.  Whenever all
the components are there (two people, feelings, etc), it can happen
(but doesn't have to).  I don't necessarily see this as being
"artificial"...it's my way of life right now, and it's very real to
me, and my fellow students.

Please don't take this as a flame...it's not meant to be.  And BTW,
apology accepted.  *smile*

							-Amy-
							 :)
--
	#include ".sig"
	#define AMY amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
		:)


Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: itzenhui@cs.uwp.edu (Steve Itzenhuiser)
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:10:18 GMT

Juha Taina (taina@cs.Helsinki.FI) wrote:
: In <13NOV92.21925419.0026@lafibm.lafayette.edu> CE42@lafibm.lafayette.edu (CE42000) writes:
: >>I too am new to this news group so hi, y'all.  I was ungraciously dumped
: >Hi! *hug* and welcome to ARC!
: 
: I'd like to ask why people share *hugs* and *kisses* on the net.  What
: is the value of them?  Would you also hug and kiss a stranger in real
: life?
: 
: -- 
: Juha Taina  taina@cs.helsinki.fi  Phone: +358-0-708-4247

I considered including other responces, but...

I also am new to the group and have felt accepted by most everyone.
I also agree that everyone needs more hugs, several a day would be nice. 
I share hugs with friends of mine and it's truly amazing how much that a
simple hug can help your day.  And if an internet hug sound cheesy and
impersonal, I say hum-bug.  It's a show of love, and that's what the world
lacks today and has for centuries (without offending anyone--what do you think
Christ tried to say?).  I hope that I can continue to receive help and
support when I need it and offer some if I have it.

Hugs to everyone and especially Juha.  Everyone get up from your terminal
and find some one you can hug.  Start with close friends, then make some
more close friends.


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doing the "right" thing.|
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross)
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Brock University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:40:48 GMT

rjf@dptg.att.com (51351[efw]-Robert Feddeler(MT4799)T343) writes:
: In article <1992Nov12.022755.17214@microsoft.com> allanl@microsoft.com (Allan Lockridge) writes:
: >What is the longest period of time between boyfriend/girlfriend?
: >Basically, I am interested in what is considered a normal length
: >of time after one breaks up to when a new boy/girlfriend is found.
: >
: >
: 
: I met my wife 22 hours (give or take) after my ex-wife and I
: finally decided that we were _really_ going to split.  That
: was over 13 years ago.  We've been married for almost 11 years
: now.  Timing is very important.

No offense, but I hate these anecdotes.

-- 
Brian Ross                         "How do we arrange lures in our tackle box?
bross@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca     From left to right, according to size and 
                                    frequency of use." -- Anal-Retentive Chef.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: lort@fraser.sfu.ca (Charles Lort)
Subject: Re: wish me luck
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:10:45 GMT

chorwit1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Cathy Horwitz) writes:

>Hi,
.  So... I am
>going to find out his name and mail him an anonymous letter asking him to
>meet me for dinner at my dorm.  Do you think he will come?  (To the guys)
>What would you think if someone did this to
>you?
Forget the anonymity.  If you really want to meet him be up front about it.  The letter is a great way, but let him know who cares enough to send it.  If he's
shy he may not respond to an anonymous letter.
GOOD LUCK!!!  :-)
Tony or as the box with all the electronic gizmos and other things I will never understand knows me lort@sfu.ca.edu

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