From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.turkish
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: "Kill file" is a confession of intellectual inadequacy, "uri-ne".
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:29:27 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <1iofqaINN4v4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bv652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ilan Uri Woll) writes:

>Due to the death of Serdar Argic, I return him to my kill file.

When used by the likes of "wollian/perlmanian/arromdian", "kill file"
is either a confession of intellectual inadequacy, or a substitute
for stating delusional beliefs that can't withstand the light of
open debate. Like matches in the hands of a three-year-old. Or 
automobiles in the hands of a sixteen-year-old. Or faith in G*d 
in the mind of a saint or a maniac. Or a nuclear arsenal in the 
hands of a movie character. Or even jumper cables and batteries 
in the hands of fools. Well, I have a better advice: stop reading 
news on this net and return to the zoo where you were born and 
brainwashed.

Source: K. Gurun, "The Armenian File," pg. 152.

'These statements are taken from the diary of Aghasi, who began the 
 Zeitun rebellion. Aghasi goes on to say:

"This brave population, who for a while had been forced to show restraint,
 voluntarily came out to our call. A great number of Zeitunites came to join
 us in the mountains where we had been hiding.... They had all come with arms;
 there were even children who carried a knife of a gun. [p. 189]"

"Then we saw Vartabed Sahag, a 90-year old lame man; he seemed happy and
 was crying out to thank God: Praise the Lord! I was afraid of dying before
 smelling for the last time gunpowder; the perfume of incense was beginning
 to disgust me, and sometimes I would put gunpowder in the incenser. 
 [p. 124]"

"The women, armed with axes, guns, daggers, and sticks, chased the Turkish
 prisoners who were escaping, and killed most of them, only 56 of them
 were able to escape. [p. 289]"

"From the beginning until the end of the insurrection, the Turks lost
 20,000 men, 13,000 of whom were soldiers, and the rest were bashi-bozuks
 [irregulars]. [p. 306]."

According to Karabekir:[1]

2. An Armenian detachment formed of infantrymen, cannons, and machine guns,
   which wanted 3 million manat [local money] and 200 horses from the village
   of Chakmak to the northwest of Kars, has demolished the village, and has
   pillaged the properties and possessions of the inhabitants.

3. The Armenians demanded ninety thousand manat as ransom from twenty seven
   Muslim villages in total in the region of Yukari Kotanli, Asagi Kotanli,
   Oluklu, Kemerli, Tuzluca, Bocuklu, Subhanazat, Kars, Igdir, Cavlak, Pasli,
   Karacayir, and said that if they did not give in, they would meet the same
   fate as the village of Chakmak.

4. The Muslims who are being oppressed by the cruelties of the Armenians are
   constantly asking our border commanders with the Malakan villages for help.
   They tell of the attacks and atrocities of the Armenians, which have 
   increased considerably in recent times, and plead that their lives and
   honour be protected. It has been confirmed that they are making preparations
   to murder all the Muslims outside the border, and to pillage their 
   properties. Kazim Karabekir.

[1] Karabekir, Kazim, "Istiklal Harbimiz," Istanbul, 1969, p. 750.

Serdar Argic

                           'We closed the roads and mountain passes that 
                            might serve as ways of escape for the Turks 
                            and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
                           'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists 
                            a single Turkish soul.'    (Sahak Melkonian)