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From: dan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Danilo Silva)
Subject: Re: resubmition every half hour
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:45:41 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <26JAN199311414797@pvhep.pvamu.edu> devine@pvhep.pvamu.edu (WILLIAM CHARLES DEVINE, II) writes:
>How can i submit a cron job that will run someting every 30 minutes or so?
>


Use crontab.
Here is an example of what "I think" you want to do:

#  +--------------------------- Minutes of the hour (0 to 59)
#  | +------------------------- Hour (0 to 23)
#  | |    +-------------------- Day of the month (1-31)
#  | |    | +------------------ Month of the year (1-12)
#  | |    | | +---------------- Day of the week (0-6 with 0=Sunday)
#  | |    | | |       +-------- Program or script to be executed
#  | |    | | |       | 
#  | |    | | |       |   
   0 *    * * 1-6  /users/root/MYPROGRAM >> message.file 2>&1 


... for my $.000000000000002
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: pdg@cup.hp.com (Paul Gootherts)
Subject: Re: How to exclude the copywrite notice@login
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:19:53 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

This is what I have in my /etc/profile:

	NUMLOGINS=`/etc/last | grep $LOGNAME | wc -l`
	if [ $NUMLOGINS -lt 2 ]
	then
		cat /etc/copyright
	fi

This prints the copyright notice the first time each user logs in, but
not after that.  (Actually, each user will get the copyright on their
first login after each time the /etc/wtmp file is pruned, but that
needn't be often.)

--

Paul Gootherts, pdg@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: larry@iem.com (Larry Fenske)
Subject: Re: A directory that CANNOT be removed.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:47:25 GMT
Organization: IEM, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel) writes:
: Has anyone else been able (HPUX 8.07) to create a directory that 
: cannot be removed?  ls with all of it's options fails to show any
: files in it, a program using scandir() thinks it's empty, yet 
: rm -f or rmdir tells me that it cannot be deleted, it's not empty.
: 
: We are creating the directory programattically (havent isolated it 
: yet), and can find NO WAY to delete it.
: 
: stuart

I have seen this before.  It happens when a directory has an extra hard
link.  This isn't supposed to happen.  If you do "ll -d" on that
directory, does it show 3 links?  If so, then somewhere on the system,
there is (if fsck passes) another directory name that is the same
directory.  Do "ll -ia" on the directory.  This will tell you the inode
numbers of the directory and what it thinks is its parent.  Then, you
can do something like "find / -inum [inodenum] -print" (where [inodenum]
is the inode number of "."  from above) to discover where the two links
are.  Now, do "ll -id" on both parent directories to see which one does
NOT match the inode number of ".."  in the bad directory.  Do an
"unlink" on the bad directory where the inode number of ".."  doesn't
match the inode number of its parent.  Then you should be able to
"rmdir" the other one.

The only times I've seen this happen is from a dumb/smart "rm"
re-implementation that moves the "rm"'d file to a save directory.  It is
dumb in the sense that it will link a directory to the save directory,
then tries to unlink it from the original place.


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larry@iem.com
IEM, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: 730 -> 735 upgrade
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:36:04 GMT
Reply-To: greg_cagle@mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: upgrade
Followup-To: 

In article <43779@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair) writes:
>We'd like to get an upgrade for our 730 to a 735, but our local HP
>office can't get much useful information about what you actually get
>with the upgrade.  Does anybody know if the 735 resulting from the
>upgrade is exactly the same as a 735 ordered new?  In particular,
>are the SCSI ports the same?  What about memory?  Can one re-use
>disks and such from the original 730?  What version of HP-UX is
>required?

You can use the same memory and disks; the motherboard comes with
an additional 16 meg on it, also. The upgrade replaces both the
CPU board and the I/O board, so the resulting I/O layout is the
same as a "real" 735 (it has the audio I/O and fast/wide SCSI
connections). You will need HP-UX 9.01.

Those of you with 720s will want to know that you must have the 
optional EISA slot upgrade installed to support the 735 upgrade.

- Greg

-- 
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Mentor Graphics Corporation
From: doemel@atlas.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (Peter Doemel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: How to use CursorKeys etc. for command line editing
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:12:41 GMT

c0033013@ws.rz.tu-bs.de (Axel Brandes) writes:

> Is there a simple way to make an ordinary shell (e.g. bash, ksh, csh)
> working just like the DOS based user interfaces which includes:
>
> - using cursor keys to move in the current command line or the history
>   buffer
> - using other keyboard specific keys (like insert)

After reading the ksh man page, I found a workaround which is valid only
in the following context:

	ksh + hpterm + emacs-like command line editing

I added the following lines to ~/.kshrc:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
	set -o gmacs	# command line editing style `emacs' with other ^T
			# (you may also use: set -o emacs)

# set aliases for cursor keys (emacs soft keys)
	alias _A=^P	# up
	alias _B=^N	# down
	alias _C=^F	# right
	alias _D=^B	# left
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here it is important, that ^P, ^N, ^F and ^B have to be inserted as real
control characters and not as the two character sequences as in this
text (however, this method is not recommended in other situations,
because control characters don't belong into ordinary texts and
scripts).

I'm using the MicroEMACS editor which provides the function
	quote-character
for this purpose. This function is normally bound to ^Q, but often
^Q isn't available because of its flow control usage as XOFF,
so you can use M-X, type quote-character hit <Return> and then
type the control key.

There surely are other ways to `patch in' the control chars.

I hope this method is good enough for your problem.

Peter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jimp@cognos.COM (Jim Patterson)
Subject: Re: nn reader for HPUX 8.07?
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:00:31 GMT

devine@pvhep.pvamu.edu (WILLIAM CHARLES DEVINE, II) writes:
: 
: 
: Hi!
: 
:    I'm looking for a nn newsreader or rn-43 newsreader that someone
: has cutsomized for HPUX8.07.

If by "customized" you mean "ported to", then tin will likely do what
you want. The interface is a full screen interface, rather than the rn
scrolling-type interface. I prefer it myself; others might prefer 'rn'.

You can get tin by FTP from:

     USA [131.210.1.4]  ftp.uwp.edu:pub/tin

I built it on our HP/UX box without too many problems. If you build it
with the NNTP support enabled, it can talk 'nntp' protocol to wherever
you've installed your news server.

The interface is a full screen interface, rather than the rn
scrolling-type interface. I prefer it myself; others might prefer
'rn'.
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UUNET:jimp@cognos.COM          3755 Riverside Drive
PHONE:(613)738-1338 x3385      Ottawa, Ont  K1G 3Z4
From: dan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Danilo Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Minisoft Address <-- Answer and Thanks
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:51:28 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Hello Net-folks,

Thanks for all the responses you all sent me on Minisoft, here is the info:

> The number for Minisoft is (800) 682-0200, or (206) 668-5187
>
> The number for Tymlabs is (800) 767-0611

Special thanks to Barry M., Jim K., John S., Frank M., Craig V.,and Tim C.
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You all have a great day,
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From: wjm@feenix.metronet.com (Bill Middleton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: creating accounts in the background
Summary: adding user accounts
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:56:43 GMT
Organization: Tx Metronet Communications Services, Dallas Tx

In article <1993Jan26.214812.20323@utagraph.uta.edu> xxgsamek@utagraph.uta.edu (Gary Samek) writes:
>Greetings,
>
>  We have a HP 720.  Being that this is a college environment and we create
>and delete many student accounts every semester, I was wondering if anyone
>knows of a nice utility that would allow for me to create a group of accounts
>with a similar prefix appended by a counter for usernames and generate
>random passwords for HP-UX.

  We use a perl script here to do this, the output from a dry run
follows.  Its in /pub/perl/adminstuff.tar.Z for anon ftp.  Along with
a number of other perl goodies.  See the listing file.


# /admin/bin/adduser

adduser: must specify one user

usage:  adduser [-options ...] username

where options include:                                    Defaults -
    -dir      dir             parent directory            least used disk
    -full     "full name"     full name of new user       username
    -group    group           group of new user           users
    -password password        password of new user        username
    -quota    quota           disk quota in kbytes        5000
    -shell    login shell     login shell of new user     /bin/csh

All options can be abbreviated up to one letter.

Possible exit codes:
           0 - normal, success           1 - password file is busy
           2 - interrupted               3 - user already in passwd file
           4 - bad group specified       5 - bad parent directory
           6 - error getting new uid     7 - bad arguements (usage)
           8 - error from remote system  9 - error creating user files
          10 - error creating new passwd

-- 
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data:9600+:214 705 2901, 2400:214 705 2917; login as info/info or signup/signup
From: b_kondalski@vssi.trw.com (Brian J. Kondalski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: 730 -> 735 upgrade
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:11:28 -0500
Organization: TRW Vehicle Safety Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: trwvssi.vssi.trw.com
Keywords: upgrade


In article <1993Jan21.153604.11235@news.mentorg.com> greg_cagle@mentorg.com writes:

[Stuff Deleted]

>You can use the same memory and disks; the motherboard comes with
>an additional 16 meg on it, also. The upgrade replaces both the
>CPU board and the I/O board, so the resulting I/O layout is the
>same as a "real" 735 (it has the audio I/O and fast/wide SCSI
>connections). You will need HP-UX 9.01.

What about the 750 to 755 upgrades?  Is anything additional added on it?

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From: vu2gmc@navier (Sitaram Ramaswamy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: 730 -> 735 upgrade
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:36:15 GMT
Organization: ucsb

In article <1993Jan21.175519.13411@news.mentorg.com> from [21 Jan 93 17:55:19 GMT] you wrote:
 |> In article <1993Jan21.153604.11235@news.mentorg.com>, gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:
 |> |> In article <43779@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair) writes:
 |> |> ......
 |> |> You can use the same memory and disks; the motherboard comes with
 |> |> an additional 16 meg on it, also. The upgrade replaces both the
 |> |> CPU board and the I/O board, so the resulting I/O layout is the
 |> |> same as a "real" 735 (it has the audio I/O and fast/wide SCSI
 |> |> connections). You will need HP-UX 9.01.
 |> |> 
 |> |> Those of you with 720s will want to know that you must have the 
 |> |> optional EISA slot upgrade installed to support the 735 upgrade.
 |> |> 
 |> 
 |> The only other "difference" is that the new 735 can be outfitted with a
 |> 525 Meg or 1 Gig internal disk. I believe that the 730s originaly only had 
 |> the 420 Meg as an internal option, now you can order a 730 and swap the
 |> 420 for a 525 and add a 1 Gig, but you cannot get a 730 with 2-1 Gig
 |> drives internal (unless you toss out the 420/525).

Does the upgrade offer any advantages as far as computational
speed  is concerned ?  I remember reading a post that seemed to indicate
that the 730-735 upgrade would be a two fold increase in performance. 
Does anybody know for sure (true/false/partly-true etc...) about this ?? 

Also does the upgrade include HPUX 9.0(1) as a part of the deal or is 
it an item that has to be ordered seperately?

Is the  additional 16MB,  in 4x4MB, 2x8MB or 1x16Mb pieces ?
And are there additional slots on the mother board for further expansion?

-thanks for your help 

-Ram

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: garg@happy.ee.udel.edu (Vivek Garg)
Subject: HP720 Process Table Problem: "no more processes"
Keywords: OS Problem, process table
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 03:13:27 GMT

Hello fellow-netters,
 we have an HP720 running HPUX8.07, and we are experiencing an interesting 
problem with it. Every now and then if you try to open a new xterm or some 
application tries to spawn off a new process, the OS claims that there are
 'no more processes',and the system begins to hang. If I kill some of
the processes it recovers and allows normal execution.

We thought that we are really running out of processes and consequently we used
SAM to set the total number of processes to 1100, and max. user process limit 
is set to 250. After these changes the problem still exists. I used the top 
utility to check the number of processes at the point in time when I got the
no more processes error, and found that there were at most 70-80 total processes
in the system. We also suspected that maybe the swap space is not configured
correctly, but using monitor utility I was able to determine that swap space 
utilization was at less than 50% and memory utilization was around 80%. I am not
sure what else could be going wrong with the system!

Did anyone out there had this sort of problem with their system. Any ideas about
what's going on? I would appreciate any help/hints leading to the solution of 
this problem. This problem has kept us from utilizing our system to its 
capability, and is getting really frustrating.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Please reply via e-mail to:

vivek@eecom.gatech.edu
or
gt8236a@prism.gatech.edu

Vivek

P.S. Thanks to all the people who responded to my earlier query about disktab 
     info. on the Fujitsu drive. I really appreciate all the input. 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: sieler@shell.portal.com (Stan Sieler)
Subject: Re: Info needed for HP3000: PLEASE help
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:08:38 GMT

Steve Steinberg (ss@panix.com) wrote:
: My company just aquired an HP 3000.  We bought a building and this
: was found in the computer room, still warm.  My questions are as 
: follows:
: 
: 	Can it run HP-UX (or any other flavor)?
: 
: If not:
: 
: 	Can it run TCP/IP and get an 802.3 connection?
: 	Can it run NFS?

What model of HP3000?   Look for a 3000/9xx or 3000/xx number.  Unlike
the 9000/700 series, the 3000's usually have a model number somewhere.

If it is a 2 digit (3000/70, 3000/37) ... no luck on UNIX.
If it is a 3 digit (3000/9xx), yes and no to running UNIX.  The hardware
can do it, but the software licensing is difficult.

If it is a 3000/9xx, then it runs MPE/iX.  NFS is available, and you can
put it on an 802.3, but running mail is harder ... the HP3000 mailing
list can help there.

Stan Sieler
sieler@allegro.com
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: justin@hp750.me.engr.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: x3270 (again)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:42:42 GMT

Just before I upgraded to HP-UX 9.0, I had x3270 working perfectly.
Now it's hosed.. Font problems. I found a version 2.6beta from somewhere
(consult with archie if you want to know precisely where that was.. I did)
and it has some R5-specific diffs, which I applied, but it still doesn't
work (FontStruct problems). 

What I need to know is if anyone else has gotten it to work, and if so,
I would GREATLY appreciate it if you would contact me. In addition, it 
might be interesting if someone using it under HP-UX 8.07 would send me
a binary and let me see what happens.. :)

Thanks for your time.
BTW.. When I got it working, I was using the version from iworks.

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From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:18:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Help needed on HP 9000/350 crashing (UX 7.0)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

mike@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Michael C. Sidman) writes:

> 	I have experienced 2 complete crashes - one on 6 Dec,
> and one today.  I am at a loss to figure out the cause - all
> I see on the consoles are the panic messages.  I have reason
> to think it would be the memory that has gone awry.

  Please tell us *which* panic message(s) you get. Also make sure to
setup savecore(1M) in /etc/rc, just in case you do not get the panic
message(s) or someone needs the coredump.

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center

P.S. Your local HP support people should be able to help you with this
     problem.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: xxgsamek@utagraph.uta.edu (Gary Samek)
Subject: creating accounts in the background
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:48:12 GMT

Greetings,

  We have a HP 720.  Being that this is a college environment and we create
and delete many student accounts every semester, I was wondering if anyone
knows of a nice utility that would allow for me to create a group of accounts
with a similar prefix appended by a counter for usernames and generate
random passwords for HP-UX.

If that does not exist, is there a random password generator and encrypt'er
available that I may write a script with this utility gen'ing the passwords.

Thanks.

Gary Samek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: suplick@convex.com (Jean Suplick)
Subject: fortran preprocessor?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:25:35 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Is there a preprocessor on the HP that takes fortran code?  It should
be able to process the usual #DEFINE and #IFDEF kinds of things.
From: Hendrik.Klompmaker@beheer.zod.wau.nl (Hendrik Klompmaker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: remove #... files after update ??
Date: 28 Jan 93 11:36:19 GMT
Organization: Wageningen Agricultural University

Hi,

I ran an update on a cluster server while a client was still running. After 
shutdown of that server update continued but now a number of #...... files 
are left on the system disk, specialy on the /etc directory. If I remenber 
well update mentioned something like renaming files in use to #....
My question is if it is save to remove these file and if so how since the # 
is a special character. I'd like to be sure before experimenting :-)

Thanks in advance for any input.

Bye

Hendrik

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From: ash@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Art Harkin)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:53:02 GMT
Subject: Re: HP name resolver library
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

/ hpindda:comp.sys.hp / Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) /  1:46 pm  Jan 21, 1993 /
If I have a 3rd party package that needs a BSD style name resolver
library (libresolv.a) to compile. Can I find this/ get this from HP?

What about from other sources -- ftp sites and such.

(Our system has man pages for these functions but the library is 
not in evidence.)

Send e-mail to me and I will summarize replies.
-- 
    Albert Lunde                      Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu
----------


What is in the std BSD libresolv.a is in HP's libc. You should be
able to remove the libresolv.a dependency in the makefile.


-art


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