From: biow@cs.umd.edu (Christopher Biow)
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Crucifixion of Jesus?
Summary: where's the Greek?
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:31:52 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <21DEC199223563848@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard) writes:

>I haven't done a systematic study, but I have compared the wording
>of some passages with a Greek interlinear translation and identified
>word-for-word copying.  (I don't presently own such a translation and
>so can't give any examples, but you can get a good idea by looking
>at a harmonization of the gospels and comparing the English translations
>of parallel accounts.  Look, for example, at the account of the
>paralytic lowered through the roof of a house and healed by Jesus
>in Mark 2:1-12 and Luke 5:18-26 (also Matthew 9:2-8).  The wording
>is not identical, but there are many of the same words used, and
>the sentence-by-sentence pattern is the same.)

Okay, here's the Greek, pasted over from Parsons Technology's
QuickVerse for Windows. I haven't the skill with Greek to see
all that much copying here. Maybe I don't know what I'm 
doing. Still, these verses would seem not to imply more than a
common tradition (written or verbal). 

Minor words are replaced by periods. 

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Mark 2:1 .palin.eiserchomai eis kapernaoum dia.hemera
...akouo.....oikos 
Mark 2:2 .eutheos polus.sunago sunago hoste...medos 
choreo.choreo...mede mede.sullaleo.thura..laleo.logos..
Mark 2:3 ..erchomai..phero.paralutikos..paralutikos..
airo.tessares 
Mark 2:4 ...dunamai.proseggizo.....ochlos.apostegazo.stege 
hopou......exorusso...chalao chalao.krabbatos epi hos.
paralutikos..paralutikos katakeimai 
Mark 2:5 .iesous eido.pistis.lego..paralutikos..paralutikos
teknon.hamartia.aphiemi.
Mark 2:6 ...tis..grammateus kathemai ekei.dialogizomai..kardia 
Mark 2:7  tis.houtos.houto laleo blasphemia tis dunamai 
aphiemi hamartia.theos heis 
Mark 2:8 .eutheos.iesous epiginosko..pneuma..houto 
dialogizomaien heautou.epo..tis dialogizomai.tauta..humon
kardia 
Mark 2:9  tis..eukopoteros.epo..paralutikos..paralutikos.
hamartia.aphiemi.e.epo egeiro.airo..krabbatos.peripateo 
Mark 2:10 ....eido..huios.anthropos echo exousia epi ge.
aphiemi hamartia.lego..paralutikos..paralutikos 
Mark 2:11 .lego..egeiro.airo..krabbatos.hupago..eis sou oikos 
Mark 2:12 .eutheos.egeiro airo..krabbatos.exerchomai 
exerchomai enantion.pas hoste...pas existemi.doxazo theos 
lego.oudepote eido..houto houtos 

Luke 5:18 .idou aner phero..kline.anthropos 
hos....paraluo..zeteo..eisphero....tithemi.enopion.
Luke 5:19 .....heurisko.poios...eisphero..dia..ochlos.
anabaino..doma.kathiemi.kathiemi dia.keramos..klinidion
eis.mesos emprosthen iesous 
Luke 5:20 ...eido.pistis.epo..anthropos.hamartia.aphiemi.
Luke 5:21 ..grammateus..pharisaios archomai.dialogizomai
lego tis.houtos hos laleo blasphemia tis dunamai aphiemi
hamartia.theos monos 
Luke 5:22 ..iesous epiginosko.dialogismos.apokrinomai epo
..tis dialogizomai..humon kardia 
Luke 5:23  tis.eukopoteros.epo.hamartia.aphiemi.e.epo 
egeiro..peripateo 
Luke 5:24 ....eido..huios.anthropos echo exousia.ge.aphiemi 
hamartia.epo..paralutikos..paraluo.lego..egeiro.airo..
klinidion.poreuomai eis sou oikos 
Luke 5:25 .parachrema.anistemi.enopion..airo..epi hos.
katakeimai.aperchomai...oikos doxazo theos 
Luke 5:26 ...hapas ekstasis lambano..doxazo theos..pletho.
phobos lego..eido paradoxos..semeron 

Mat 9:2 .idou.prosphero....paralutikos..paralutikos ballo
epi.kline.iesous eido.pistis rheo..paralutikos..paralutikos
teleioo...tharseo.hamartia.aphiemi.
Mat 9:3 .idou tis..grammateus rheo en heautou houtos.blasphemeo 
Mat 9:4 .iesous eido.enthumesis rheo hina tis enthumeomai.
poneros.humon kardia 
Mat 9:5 .tis.eukopoteros.epo.hamartia.aphiemi.e.epo egeiro.
peripateo 
Mat 9:6 ....eido..huios.anthropos echo exousia epi ge.aphiemi
hamartia tote lego...paralutikos..paralutikos egeiro airo..
kline.hupago.sou oikos 
Mat 9:7 ..egeiro.aperchomai..oikos 
Mat 9:8 ...ochlos eido..thaumazo.doxazo theos ho.didomi
toioutos exousia.anthropos