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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:01:20 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Salmonbake Uprising
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> >Speaking of the electronic medium, one important factor in choosing the
> >site for the FTF bake is telnet access.  Can the Portland Planners promise
> >it to us?
> nope.

Uh oh....  I consider that the most serious drawback stated so far.  I'm
assuming that we could probably find Portland telnet access on our own,
of course, but it would be an inconvenience.  I think that's something
VERY important to consider in all this.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:55:29 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Round 4
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              "LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU" at Jan 24, 93 12:58 pm

Say, Carolyn, how does this game terminate?  (This is not a flame, you guys
can go on forever if you wish.)  It's been an age since I last played TP and
I've forgotten how it ends.

-rashmi
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (76
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993 samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU wrote:

> I can't believe this. And besides, "Peggy Noonan" rings a bell. Was she on
> words-l any time?

You fool, she used to be Reagan's speechwriter.

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:15:43 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Don't laugh, but
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On Thu, 21 Jan 1993 ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU wrote:

> Don't encourage him!  He was talking last night about buying me
> an OED on CD-ROM for my birthday--but of course it would live w/
> him, and I could use it whenever I'm with him.  Jeeze!

You know, if there's ONE thing that men do which really <pisses me off>,
(and there's not just one, there's thousands), it's buying a woman an
ostensible present which is costly and extravagant, which is really for
themselves. I've seen men give women power tools, special furniture,
computers, even morotcycles.

-abh
From: ST403231@brownvm.brown.edu (Frank)
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Date: 26 Jan 93 20:44:22 GMT
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>From: ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (blomberg cepeda)
>
[explanation of Fr Guido Sarducci deleted]
>
>
>Incidentally, Graham, wwcem114@sivm belongs to a very nice woman named Peggy
>Noonan, who was lending me her account until I got one of my own. (Kudos to
>Rashmi and Evelyn!)

Not *the* Peggy Noonan?  The speechwriter for Presidents Reagan and
Bush, and author of the infamous "read my lips" speech GHWB gave upon
accepting the nomination in 1988?  If so, tell her I think she's a
goddess.  And that I wish Citizen Bush had had the sense to keep her
on in his campaign last year.  Lord knows he could have used a better
vehicle for getting his message across, whatever it was.

Frank
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From:         CHRIS SCHMIDT <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: My Name

>John "Why did the bhagwan cross the path?" W.

Can't you just let bhagwans be bhagwans?

Chris
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Semi-fine dining, NE style

Our drama dept. wants the name of a chain of restaraunts in the NYC area,
sort of a steak/chophouse type of place similar to Stewart Andersons, for those
of you familiar with them.  Any suggestions?  (No, they're NOT looking for a
good meal!)

John
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:47:16 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Salmonbake bitching
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:you to be Frank.  That would put a big crimp in my lust since I have no
:inclinations toward same-sex lusting.

Or same-species even...

G
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:01:32 EST
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Words-L an abuse of resources?
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I agree w/ Anne.  Words-l is the net at its best.  It's the wave of
the future.  In my opinion, lists that have less traffic should be
shut down because they don't have the interested membership to justify
their existence.

Karen
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:33:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: In Ecstacy
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> On Sun, 24 Jan 1993, gilbertsmith wrote:
>
> > my joy.  I would like to thank my mother, my sister, my younger
> > brother, my friend <ts> and my aide and confidant <gt> and all my
> > readers on the English Language Discussion List more commonly known
> > as Words-L.  I couldn't have done this without your help.
>
> ...and your chopped liver, <abh>.

But that just goes without saying, -abh you honey fig.
--ggs
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:26:39 EST
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.bitnet@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: signoff

> You won't learn
> anything from it; you'll just wonder how he missed sampling this list.
> His conclusion: "The net is an experiment to see what it is here for."

Yes, I was very disappointed in this article.  Though to some extent I
agree w/ his conclusion.  He kept talking about Internet, but his
address was a bitnet one, and he didn't discuss ftp or telnet at all.

Karen
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:22:04 -0600
From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: outerbanks prices
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1993 CROSEN@bgsuopie.bitnet wrote:

> Sorry these prices stun you.  They seem reasonable to me in view of the fact
> these places will comfortably sleep 8-10 folks or at least 4 duos sharing
> a room.  Thus, each duo is out about 250 for the week for lodging.  Is this
> out of line?  Am I a spendthrift?  Say it ain't so, bwp.

OK, Marty, laugh, but big numbers scare me. I saw that 4-digit thing and
didn't even stop for a minute to calculate the individual cost. But if
it's $1K, wouldn't the per-person work out to $125? That's doable.

You're not a spendthrift, I'm just <cheap>.

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:11:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shirt.gif
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> On Wed, 20 Jan 1993, G wrote:
> > suspect I just don't want it anyway.
>
> Suit yourself. I want to know why you picked this of all moments to stop
> looking at gifs.
> -abh

Do you mean that you are going to proceed with this plan if <gt>
doesn't want a shirt?????  This just BLOWS my mind and makes my
heart burn.
O.K., I have .giffed this design a SECOND time, and the .EDU is still
skrunched up at the end and whatever follows the handwritten slogan
under it is skrunched up, unreadable.  It looks really great that way.
Why is it doing this?
Or is this a <joke> that everyone is playing on poor -ggs?
--ggs
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:19:24 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Don't laugh, but
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:The first Mothers' Day (or is it Mother's Day?) that I was a mother my
:husband gave me a huge plant for our foyer, one he had been eying for a
:long time.  His is the green thumb in this household and I am the one who,
:at that time, knew a rose from a daisy and that is about the extent of it.
:My feelings were hurt big time because I knew it was for himself really,
:and even his "but the best gifts are supposed to be the ones you would
:like yourself" didn't sooth my ruffled feathers.  But I did remember his
:philosophy, and for Fathers' Day he received a lovely dress I had been
:eying for a long time.
:doris

And I bet you were right pissed off when he kept it for himself, huh?

G
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:12:53 U
From:         Anne <harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      The Salmonbake Uprising
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While I am highly flattered that my dear friend Giggles would say that a
SalmonBake without bwp is like breakfast without orange juice, and while I
might parenthetically add that I wish that *other* people felt that way too
<grr>, I want to state unequivocally that there will be NO boycotting of any
Words-L event allowed. Attendance at all gatherings, even ones where the
participants strip to their nads and run around hugging trees and shrubberies
while jabbering doggerel to the Earth Mother, is to be strongly encouraged,
and, in a more passionate moment, I might be so bold as to say, required. The
Portland venue is not totally without merit, although it is rather remote from
where many of our members are, and probably presdisposes it to a low turnout. I
am voicing my opinion only, as is my wont.

It has occurred to me that a sort of global Words-L gathering might be
strangely MacLuhan-esque and appropriate to the electronic medium. At a given
time and date, we could all pause and think intensely about other Wordslers. We
could call it, if nobody objects, MasterBake. Any takers?

-abh
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:34:39 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Shark
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        What is the derivation of this word?  My American Heritage says "origin
        unknown".  Another Wordsler's dictionary lists the animal name as being
        derived from the human variety, which seems Pretty Bizarre to me.

        Any ideas?

Eric Partridge also goes along with the Sch"urke theory.

G
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:01:50 EST
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Asians
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Posted on 25 Jan 1993 at 12:36:35 by JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
>And, in Mexico, if you say you're from "the United States", the Mexicans
>get cheesed off...

So where are you say you are from?

Karen
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Subject: Re: WORDS-L TP: Ruth's Entertainment Question
Date: 24 Jan 1993 05:52:10 GMT
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>"Who starred in the movie'The War of the Worlds'?"
>
>If you answer this one correctly you join mka in the lead and it's a race
>to see who can land in the centre first and answer their question correctly.
>
In other words, you're looking for a miracle.:-)  I'm going to say 
Gregory Peck, for no particular reason....  I know who *read* it on
radio [Orson Welles] and who wrote it [H.G. Wells, I think - if not him
Verne, but it reads like Wells] but not who made a movie out of it.
Has anyone here seen the movie?  I think I did once, but that was
worlds ago and far away. [maybe we should get a Time Machine and go
back and find out when?]:)

>Code: G - Geography
>      E - Entertainment
>      H - History
>      A - Art and Literature
>      N - Science and Nature
>      S - Sports and Leisure
>      R - Roll again
>
>
>              *****************************************************
>              *    E         * G * R * A * H * R * S *     N      *
>             ******************************************************
>            * G *       * G *                      * S *       * S *
>           * R *         * S * abh                * H * mka;    * R *
>          * S *           * A * shk              * G *           * G *
>         * N *             * N *                * A * bc          * E *
>        * R *            gs * H * ah; cjb      * E *               * R *
>       * A *                 **********************                 * H *
>     ************************ shk;                ************************
>    *   *   *   *bz *   *   *                     *   *nh *   *   *   *   *
>    * H   A   G   N   E   S *                     * N   G   S   E   H   A *
>    *   *   *   * bb*   *jw * ak;                 *bg *   *   *   *   *   *
>     ************************                     ************************
>      * A *                  **********************                 * H *
>       * R *                * G *              * A *               * R *
>        * G *              * H * ald;           * S * ed          * S *
>         * E *            * E * rmh              * H *           * N *
>          * R *          * A * eh; ay             * N *         * R *
>           * N *        * N *                      * E *       * E *
>            ********************************************************
>            *      S        * N * R * A * H * R * E *       G       *
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:17:27 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tshirt colors
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              "BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU" at Jan 24, 93 10:36 pm

>   Never mind 'irrevocable' or 'ecstasy'.  These are words without owners.
>   But Hanes is a corporate entity (I forget which conglomerate it's a part
>   of) and has gone to considerable trouble and expense to establish a
>   corporate identity.  We could at least spell the name right if we're
>   going to be wearing their fabric.  Don't you agree?

Spelling flames in the Blue Moon - how Words-l has fallen.

-rashmi
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: signoff
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harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) writes:
> I have noticed that an ex-whore is almost always the first to speak out
> against prostitution.

You might be interested in the book "Sex Work - Writings by Women in the
Sex Industry", edited by Frederique Delacoste and Priscilla Alexander.

--karsten
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Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:24:41 GMT
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In a previous article, karsten@netcom.com (karsten) says:

>He definitely lipsynched the second song.  The first one might have
>been live - I didn't catch any mouth/music sychronization problems.

Me neither, but that second one was pure tape.  The orchestra/band was live,
I think, but his vocals sure weren't.  Not that live would have been any 
better.  I still can't stand anything he's sung since Off the Wall, and
even that was pushing things a bit.

>There was a distinct change in vocal tone between the first and
>second songs, too.

That was the tape kicking in.:-/  

>CBS really bungled this show.  They cut away from several performers
>in the middle of songs and didn't bother to show the signing translator
>in the corner of the screen.
>
AMEN, brother.  When they cut the jazz group off midway, I was really and
truely *pissed*.  The best bunch of musicians that evening, and they get
cut.:-(  They pulled it on Judy Collins, too, I think.  And they didn't
cut Fleetwood Mac off soon enough, methinks.  Those last few choruses were
pushing it.  I hate to say it, but the old albums sounded better.  On
top of this stuff, it sounded like CBS was using ambient mikes, instead
of pulling the sound straight off of the mixing board, like they 
should have.  I've recorded stuff both ways, and the latter is definitely
preferred when possible.


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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:31:12 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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:> Hey Natalie - you forgot an address in your .sig!

:I thought I had been evicted from pizzabox.  Last time I tried to log on
:it didn't know me.

I thought I explained, you were logging on to pizzabox.ibmpcug.co.uk,
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
not pizzabox.demon.co.uk (where incidentally I set up an ID for
rashmi when she griped the other day about feeling left out,
but  haven't seen her try to use it yet.  Maybe she deleted that
mail unread :-( )

G
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Betty's Entertainment Question
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> Well, what was it, Natalie?  "Wake Up, Little Susie" because of the
> morning-after implications?

Yes.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Posted on 25 Jan 1993 at 12:03:48 by samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
>>>And how much of Chinese Buddhism
>>>is really Indian?
>>All the texts., at the very least.
>Really? I had no idea. I thought, for no real reason, that there were
>a lot of Chinese contributions.

Sutras are generally transliterated into Chinese--at least, that is
my very imperfect understanding.  But they are in Sanskrit.

Karen
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Subject:      Re: Question for Torkel

    There is a true yearning to respond to
    The singing River and the wise Rock.
    So say the Dane, the Swede, the Norwegian1, the Norwegian2.
    They all hear
    The speaking of the Tree.
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Nancy's Science/Nature Question
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              24 Jan 93 09:56:42 -0600. <9301241558.AA02884@sics.se>

  >Oh, yuck, Science/Nature!  Not a category in which I do well.  However,
  >since it received so much discussion on this list some time ago, I'm going
  >to say the Portuguese man-of-war.

  This reminds me of a gratuitous piece of information I picked up in Darwin.
There is this sea creature known as...the stone fish? Something having to
do with stones, anyway, because it looks deceptively like a stone. Only, when
you step on it, it hurts. In fact to such an extent that the first thing
to do, according to the horrifying plaque, when somebody has stepped on
one of these things is to prevent that person from taking his or her life
(by drowning or otherwise), because that is what people tend to do in order
to escape the pain. I quickly resolved not to dip as much as a toe into
the waters of Northern Australia.
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Thanks for the words
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>   No, can't forsake my native soil.  But I wouldn't mind visiting.
>   Say for SeaWaspBake '94.

Hmmmmmmm.  If we don't hear more from the Portland Planners soon, anybody
for changing Salmonbake '93 to Seawaspbake '93?  I'll go.  But we need to
plan it *immediately*.  And we'll need to take warm clothes instead of
cool clothes if it's in Oz in July.  Those Aussies just can't seem to get
winter and summer straight.  They're always having them at the wrong time.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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In a previous article, samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU () says:

>>    So say the Dane, the Swede, the Norwegian1, the Norwegian2.
>>    They all hear
>>    The speaking of the Tree.
>
>I'd say a digraph is more appropriate than a tree.
>
I'd have said a babblefish, m'self.  

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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: /anne/'s Sport/Leisure Question
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> Home? I was going to say Acey-Deucy, but that's a way to play, not part
>of the board.

The centre division of a backgammon board is called 'the bar', but I didn't
know that either, if that's any consolation.

>I thought I answered 3 correctly? Can't remember tho'.

I might have failed to credit someone with a topic, but there's no way I
could have given credit where it wasn't due.... so if I say it's 4 then you
can be sure you've answered 4 correctly.

Carolyn
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