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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Looking for information on stimulant/bronchiodilator
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:06:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.213522.3912@netcom.com> despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson) writes:
>I have some tablets with Theophylline Anhydrous (along with Ephedrine HCL)
>that seem more effective than straight ephedrine.  I cannot find a reference
>to Theophylline and would like any information on this.  I am mainly
>interested in its stimulant effects, if any.

Theophylline is a xanthine related to caffeine.  It is more toxic than
caffeine, and perhaps slighly less active as a central stimulant, though
you can perhaps treat them as equivalent.  It causes side effects fairly
frequently.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: midnite@milton.u.washington.edu (Midnite Wombat)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:36:39 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan7.152313.27777@fuug.fi> an4929@anon.penet.fi (gonzo) writes:
>I was actually quite impressed with the program for the most part.
>If I had  to score it, I would give it a 7.4.  And, the overall
>contest score would be LSD 4, DEA 0.
>
>Anyway, my biggest beef with the show was that kid who got arrested.
>His story was that he started doing drugs, then went on tour with the
>Dead, then AFTER that sold a sheet to someone and got arrested.  Of
>course somehow, they tied this back in to the Dead.
>
>
>
>Peace, love, and tomatoes,
>
>Bill
>

It didn't really seem to me that they were trying to play the Dead for this
kid's problem. Although the fact that he followed the Dead was pretty much
irrelevant, there is a distinct correlation between the Dead and acid.

Anyway, the thing that really pissed me off (well, 2 things actually), was
that this poor kid never would have bought drugs if the DEA didn't ask him
for them (I'm kinda foggy on this, but from what I understand, either an
undercover DEA agent or an informant (no doubt coaxed into it by the DEA)
called and asked him to buy the acid, years after he stopped doing it). I
can't begin to explain how much shit like this pisses me off. It doesn't
even seem constitutional to me (not like the Constitution means anything any
more..).

The other incredibly annoying fact is that they weigh the paper and claim
that as the actual drug weight, yet they still use the weight of LSD alone
to base the quantity on. A sheet of acid probably weighs around a gram (I'm
just making a random guess here, but it has to be close)..and using 100ug as
the dosage, that's 10,000 hits worth of acid. Yet, the sheet only contains
100 hits worth of LSD. I've known that they weighed the paper for a while,
but it still pisses me off. I wonder how this has gone on so long without
being overruled in court..it's just completely insane.

--Midnite
From: copley-devon@cs.yale.edu (Devon Copley)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: brownies
Date: 9 Jan 1993 17:41:34 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: chameleon.zoo2.cs.yale.edu

A friend of mine is interested in experiencing the joys of marijuana but as
she is a serious vocalist, she doesn't want any smoke going through her throat.
So I suggested brownies.  Does anyone have a good recipie for brownies?  Do
I have to do anything to the herb first?  How much should I use?  Any 
information would be helpful.  Please respond by email, as I don't check this
group with any regularity.

Devon
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bagg@ellis.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Subject: Re: LSD
Keywords: LSD
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:51:13 GMT

In article <1hudadINN8gq@shelley.u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:

>From Merck:

(Description of LSD deleted.)

>  USE: In biochemical research as an antagonist to serotonin.
>Has been used experimentally as adjunct in study and treat-
>ment of mental disorders.

Does the Merck really say this?  This has been kind of bugging me since
you posted it.  LSD can act as a 5-HT2 antagonist, but also as a
5-HT1A, 1C, and 2 agonist. 2 and 1c agonism seems particularly important
for hallucinogenic activity.

>-- 
>Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
>  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
>                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson

     --M@
From: RR04@bunny.gte.com (Rob Robertson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: query re: drugs and us security clearances -
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:08:24 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories


In article <1hvlbtINNblb@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> anon.230@pax.tpa.com.au 
writes:

>         Anyone care to remark on the effects of a single relatively
> recent experience with LSD for someone about to approach getting
> a clearance? No history of abuse/addiction, just a single experiment.
> Is it best to come clean or attempt to pull off a short term memory
> deficit?


Personal anecdote - take it or leave it...

In 1979 I enlisted in the US Air Force. In High and Junior High I did 
experiment with several different... things. Many experiments. My 
enlistment officer told me to deny everything, to just outright lie. But I 
wanted to 'come clean' and start fresh; no drugs, no lies, no problem.

At the induction center I admitted that, yes, I did try marijuana once, 
and that was it. The FBI's $20,000 Top Secret Clearance -out the window. 
My career in crypto - gone. And the funny thing was that the guy who 
interviewed with the doctor right after me denied everything, gave all the 
answers they wanted to hear, got the same crypto job (except in the 
Marines), and all the while he was waiting for his turn HIS PUPILS WERE 
DRIPPING OUT OF HIS HEAD. Yes boys and girls, he was tripping his brains 
out in the Armed Forces Induction Center in Boston.

In the long run (i.e., after death, judgement day, whatever) it's better 
to tell the truth, but in this life, and with this government,... shit, 
I'm still payin' for that mistake.


Good luck however you decide.

Rob


Rob Robertson
GTE Laboratories          (617)466-4144 vox
40 Sylvan Rd.                (617)890-9320 fax
Waltham, Mass. 02254
"There is nothing new under the sun..."
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
From: an4729@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re: looking for information on abortifacents
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:20:09 GMT

In <1ikg2jINN150@uwm.edu> thig@csd4.csd.uwm.edu wrote:
>Not a flame or a joke, but a very serious boservation. Regardless of how
>tragic Mr. Cannon's situation may be, I think it would be the height of
>irresponsibility to provide such information with no verification that he's
>actually telling the truth. If he is, I feel for him, but there must be
>safer ways of getting that info. If not, then I surely wouldn't want to be
>the person who gave him the info. One man's opinion, take it for what it's
>worth...

Keep in mind that there is NO "safe" method of abortion known to mankind.
No, *not* *one*.  They *all* can (and frequently do) have life-threatening
complications for the would-have-been mother.  There is no easy way.
					       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If it must be done, then it should be done by those *trained* to do it
in the safest manner.  *DON'T* trust your wife's life to people who are
so screwed up that they actually believe the junk posted in alt.magick.

Before I get flamed (your flames would reach me anonymously, by the way,
after which I'd magnanimously direct them to the nearest bit bucket...)
I'd like to remind the folks on alt.magick and alt.pagan that one of the
chief accusations against the witches of old was that they caused abortions
and other such afflictions.  (This was back when people *wanted* children.)
Perhaps the accusation was *true*?
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From: bagg@ellis.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: books wanted
Keywords: books, mescaline, lsd, shrooms, hallucinagins
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:20:00 GMT
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <1993Jan10.063902.6911@netcom.com> rollins@netcom.com (Peter D. Nesbitt) writes:

>Do any of you have books relating to lsd, shrooms, peyote, Huxley, Leary, 
>etc., that you would be willing to part with?

If you're in the Bay Area, I would think you'd be able to find many books
on these subjects in used bookstores.  I just picked up a nice 1st
edition of the posthumously published collection of Huxley's writings
on psychedelics as well as a 1967 paperback on LSD's therapeutic
potential co-written by Peter Stafford.  Both were reasonably priced.

       --Matt
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Subject: Re: Why Marines like LSD...
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 22:23:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.232542.14693@netcom.com> howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>In article <malcolm.726353802@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>
>>For that matter, the idea of anyone willing to commit to the military 
>>doing LSD sorta scares me.
>>
>
>Why?

They might kill somebody!!

:-)
From: kmcgee@altair.csustan.edu (Kevin McGee)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Nitrous
Date: 10 Jan 93 06:15:03 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

Make friends with a dentist, or his/her indentured servants. ;-)
I spent 3 years in Germany.  The last year my friends and I from
the American H.S. hooked up with a stoner Army dental tech.  The
guy had an endless supply of nitrous.  We sucked it down from a
long plastic tube off of these cute little olive drab tanks.  The 
dental guy kept the flow low enough so that you would be forced to
inhale at least some air.  But tripping was definitely in order.
So much so that oxygen deprivation would have been possible,
except for the other guys waiting their turn.  As soon as you
showed the slightest sign of flipping, they were on the tube like
vultures.

I feel better about paying taxes now.

Hello Berlin!
From: st1o5@Elroy.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: SHROOMS: agar medium
Date: 6 Jan 1993 23:17:21 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: st1o5@Elroy.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu

Does anybody know what the consistency of the agar medium should be when
trying to get a myceUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU<@(WUT3]Q
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Fentanyl and derivatives
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 13:37:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.101512.18982@husc15.harvard.edu> blom@husc15.harvard
edu writes:
>Does anyone know anything (ANYTHING) about fentanyl and its derivatives?
>
>What is fentanyl's structure?
>
>Properties?
>
>Substitution sites?
>
>Eric Blom
>Harvard U


(Hmmm... Do I do the long or short post?.. Short...)

 Fentanyl, loosely speaking could be considered a hybrid of sorts between
Demerol and methadone, although this is a _very_ loose comparison. It is
275 times as potent as morphine. It is a derivative of 4-amino-piperidine.
The two most significant substitution sites are the alpha, and 3 position
(on the alkyl side chain and piperidine ring respectively...). 
 I don't have my Merck handy, or I cold perhaps draw up and ascii
structure. I suppose a rough one will do. (Keep in mind that this is from
memory and I haven't seen this structure for a while...):

   P
             ___
            /   \
  ArCH2CH2- C   N-Ar
            \---/
       ^    
       |    ^
       |    |
       |    "3" position
       "alpha" position

 I have the sneaky feeling that this structure is incomplete. I used Ar
to denote Phenyl groups, as I don't recall the actual substitution
patterns on the phenyl rings...

St. Anthony

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         |   \ |  || Ph               chlani izbrani
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
From: dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on abortifacents
Followup-To: talk.abortion
Reply-To: dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:26:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.220227.20159@news.cs.indiana.edu> 
"amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:

> Perhaps she is past the 12 week mark and the state only allows abortions 
> for certain reasons after that point, or another point.  

The Supreme Court decision which legalized abortion, Roe v. Wade,
is unrestricted abortion-on-demand throughout pregnancy.  Under 
Roe, states may not prohibit abortion for any reason, during any
part of pregnancy.  I will gladly provide documentation via 
e-mail to anyone who requests it.

And to the original poster, I would like to suggest that they 
can find people who are very willing to help them with an
unplanned pregnancy.  You can start by looking in the Yellow
Pages under the heading "pregnancy counseling".

>amy


Doug Holtsinger

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:59:38 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1993Jan3.130252.46058@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> lerner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Our school recently decided that we will have a drug dog.
	How nice.  I love doggies.  They taste so good when they are
	hickory smoked over a slow, moist heat.  ;-)


>By the way, did you know that killing a drug dog is punnishable in the
>same way as killing a police officer (I mean it has the same
>penalties, but my editor screws up if I back up too much )?
	Ha ha! They told you and of course you believed them.
	Put some mesquite on the smoker and stop worrying.  ;-)



						smg



Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: midnite@milton.u.washington.edu (Midnite Wombat)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 7 Jan 1993 15:41:16 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

In article <9301050822.22@rmkhome.UUCP> rmkhome!rmk@merk.com (Rick Kelly) writes:
>
>Ed Sanders, a former member of the Fugs, wrote a book called "The Family",
>which is probably now out of print.  He took a far different research route
>than Bugliosi did in "Helter Skelter".  Besides doing acid, he discovered
>that they were into drinking beverages made from all kinds of interesting
>roots that they found in the desert.  They also hung around with all kinds
>of interesting satanic cult types, and the Process Church.
>
>Whatever it was that they were drinking ( I can't remember now ) did a pretty
>good job of cooking their brains.  The LSD was just dessert.
>
>-- 
>
>Rick Kelly    rmkhome!rmk@merk.com    merk!rmkhome!rmk    rmk@frog.UUCP

I started reading _The Family_ a little while ago. I got about halfway
through it before I got bored and gave up (the middle is just a big long
story about all the people they started killing). I was amazed by all the
people the Manson gang associated with (celebrities and the like..Brian
Wilson of the Beach Boys let Manson practically take over his house for a
while). Anyone, this isn't really about drugs so I'll stop rambling..but the
book is interesting for the most part, if you want to learn a little about
Manson.

--Midnite
From: nick@gepard.msk.su (Ovcharenko Nickolay Yurievich)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: BEE VENOM If you need it for pharmacology,drugs and cure.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:12:25 +0200
Distribution: world
Organization: GEPARD, Ltd
Reply-To: nick@gepard.msk.su

Hello!
  If you know who is interested in bee venom for pharmacology, drugs
and cure, call us. May be you know who is dealing with bee venom in science.
Any information is helpful. Thank you. Sincerely Nick Ovcharenko
                                                 Moscow Russia
                                                 nick@gepard.msk.su
                                               fax  (095)-135-7030 for Gepard


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From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:50:29 GMT

In article <9300510.27807@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> tovey@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Gadget) writes:
>What do you mean 'tank'? Do you mean a large (3') bottle, or the tank on

With "tank" I mean a standard industry/medical gas tank. They come in
various sizes the smaller ones being something like 1 meter high and the
bigger ones to the extent of 1.5 meters or so.

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From: chumbach@carina.unm.edu (Charles S. Humbach)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Date: 12 Jan 1993 02:08:16 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu

In article <jah.726793170@mits> jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>
>   This has been an interesting thread, but I really don't see the point in
>bringing drugs to school. If you can't even wait till you get home, you
>obviously have a problem.
>--

 When I was in high school I had some friends who liked to get stoned
 on the way home from school. It made long cold walks more intresting.



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From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: looking for information on abortifacents
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 17:22:36 PST
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

an4729@anon.penet.fi writes:
> 					       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> If it must be done, then it should be done by those *trained* to do it
> in the safest manner.  *DON'T* trust your wife's life to people who are
> so screwed up that they actually believe the junk posted in alt.magick.
> 
> Before I get flamed (your flames would reach me anonymously, by the way,
> after which I'd magnanimously direct them to the nearest bit bucket...)
> I'd like to remind the folks on alt.magick and alt.pagan that one of the
> chief accusations against the witches of old was that they caused abortions
> and other such afflictions.  (This was back when people *wanted* children.)
> Perhaps the accusation was *true*?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

While I agree and have already stated in E-mail to the person with
the problem that she needs to check into local resources for getting
low cost-free abortions for safety reasons, the irrelevant slap at
readers of alt.magick combined with the anonymous post suggests that
the poster is a gutless asshole.
A.Lizard

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ghangha@wam.umd.edu (Kire Nosredneh)
Subject: Re: rules for LSD
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:19:40 GMT

> The rules I heard were:
>     1) You can not breath under water.
>     2) You can not fly.
>     3) YOU ARE NOT GOD
>
> All are good rules to keep in the forefront of your mind when 
> "Visiting Alice."

I agree with establishing some guidelines for tripping.  But for someone
who has never tripped before, placing these " rules " in their head will
only cause them to think about them constantly if they feel insecure or
nervous about using the drug.  Usually, it's better not to say anything, 
just stick around the dose-monkeys!

	It's always a good day to die.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: God and alcohol
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:32:31 GMT

lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
: 
: Religion must be "used" responsibly, just as drugs must.  Many pilgrims came
: to America in search of religious freedom.  Now we need a similar place to
: get chemical freedom, but the Earth is full.  Do you still think drugs and
: religion are that different?

Actually, the Pilgrims came here because the Europeans would not let them
force their religious morality on everyone else. Here in the "New World",
they had the freedom to do just that.

Bill
From: epasls@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with a drug dog?(was RE:Drug dog()
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:47:03 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <robc.10.0@wicat>, robc@wicat (Rob Carlson) writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.231435.46103@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> epasls@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>Who the fuck cares if there's a drug dog at LHS.
>>Lets look at the consequenses assuming noone fucks around
>>with the dog as is being generally suggested here.
>>
>>a) there will be no(or less) drugs at school.
>>
>>b) It will be less easy to get high at school.
>>
>>c) It will be very hard to distribute drugs at school.
>>
> 
> You left out these:
> 
> 	d) Students will be taught that it is OK to violate someone's 
> rights if the cause is good enough.

How are rights being violated?
I'm very confused on this one.
(assuming dog represents probable cause *read next post*)

> 
> 	e) Students will learn that the fourth ammendment isn't worth the 
> paper it is written on.
> 

Again, probable cause.

> 	f) Using faulty detection methods is OK if the cause is right.
> 
> 

When I originally posted I was under the false assumption that a drug
dog only sniffs out drugs.


> Rob Carlson
-- 

This argument is all about wheather a drug dog presents probable cause.
After the experience I have decided that a drug dog does NOT present
probable cause. Therefore I agree with d,e, and f, but only because
the dogs we had sucked.



Later...

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