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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: got killed for no reason, what to do???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:59:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.091908.15717@nic.umass.edu> s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins) writes:
>
>  Last week, because I was dissatisfied with one user's behavior, I kicked
>  him out of a channel (#asians, to be exact) and then de-OPed everyone who
>  had OP, including the the channel server (Danzsrv).

Although many people strongly disagree, I believe this rates a /kill.

>  Now, he just kill me whenever
>  he feels like, he no longer give me any explanation. He even kills me 
>  whether I am on the #asians channel or not. This is absolute madness for 
>  I've done nothing wrong since that evening.

I agree here; he has no right to kill you when you aren't doing anything.

>  Now, I am afraid
>  the only safe time for me to get onto IRC is when he is not around.

You could also /wallops that the kill was completely unjustified, and the
offending op might be pressured to stop, or be killed himself.

> I am 
>  also afraid that I may be banned from #asians since he's the channel 
>  operator there as well as an IRC operator.

What you did deserves a ban.  That's what it's for.

> So, my dear netters, can you give
>  me pointers on how to have this reported to some higher authority???? 

Summon a spawn of Shub-Niggurath to torment him.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mrgreen@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green)
Subject: wallop stats again.
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:18:58 GMT


Hi again.

yes, again, these are unoffical.

      place   wallops   nick oper_status.

	1:	242	Gwydion +
	2:	231	Chucki +
	3:	167	Jerod +
	4:	141	Snacker +
	5:	139	WintrHawk -
	6:	132	Tce +
	7:	119	Violator +
	8:	 99	snoopy +
	9:	 91	Phant0m +
	10:	 86	herm +
	11:	 83	Walloper -
	12:	 71	fluffy +
	13:	 70	Stale +
	14:	 69	sachz +
	15:	 67	TriZap +
	16:	 64	NetWorker -
	17:	 63	TDM +
	18:	 63	AgTiger +
	19:	 61	Pulsar +
	20:	 60	Violator -
	21:	 55	THOR +
	22:	 53	WintrWolf +
	23:	 52	Spidy +
	24:	 51	phone -
	25:	 46	scorpio +
	26:	 40	ValleyBoy -
	27:	 40	Daemon +
	28:	 39	johnnyb +
	29:	 39	Oddy +
	30:	 38	covenant +
	31:	 38	Lancelot +
	32:	 36	Chiapet +
	33:	 36	Bugleboy +
	34:	 33	Aiken +
	35:	 32	La^n +
	36:	 31	titus +
	37:	 28	poxaV +
	38:	 28	keeper +
	39:	 27	Jules +
	40:	 26	Chetnik -
	41:	 25	zorgo +
	42:	 25	Vikz +
	43:	 24	tristram +
	44:	 24	Girgi -
	45:	 22	SUPERMAN -
	46:	 22	Robey -
	47:	 21	Scott +
	48:	 20	lestat -
	49:	 20	Page +
	50:	 19	choo +

General stats.

Total wallops :            4493
Wallops	by opers :         3399
Wallops by non-opers :     1094
Total wallopers :           414
Total oper wallopers :      218
Total non-oper wallopers : 196

Matt.
From: phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Howard)
Subject: Re: Irc versions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:53:37 GMT

becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes:

>rvloon@cv.ruu.nl (Ronald van Loon) writes:
>
>>In <1992Apr4.171946.5851@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes:
>
>>| ">1. I liked being able to use bold.
>>| "
>>| "Have the IrcII people added another magic thingie in (like
>>| "underlining) so that non-IrcII people get more gibberish on their
>>| "screens? Say it isn't so...\
>
>>Hmmm... bold typed text has been around for quite a while (over a year, maybe
>>even longer). Bold text is just text surrounded with ^B's. Quite common in
>>topics of channels and the like. 
>
>On my client, ^B produces inverse text, and ^V produces underline. I'm running 
>a 2.7.1 server and a 2.1.5 client. Does anyone know how (or better yet, if) I
>can produce just Bold text?


I find myself in rare agreement with Greg Lindahl.  However I blame only the
standard used to effect these text attributes and do not oppose their
availability (but I wish people would not abuse them).

There *IS* a standard for things like reverse, bold, and underlining.

Now if the client designers had chosen to use the standard, then maybe things
would not come out as gibberish in the case of clients that do not filter the
codes running on terminal (emulators) that handle the standard.

    ESC "[" <numbers separated by ";"> "m"

For the numbers:
    0  default
    1  bold on
    4  underscore on
    5  blink on
    7  reverse on

For example to have bold and underlined at the same time:

    ESC "[1;4m"

This is the standard used in MS-DOS ANSI.SYS and is defined by ANSI in
standard number X3.64 (go look it up).

If the user wants to have any of these attributes rendered in a custom
way (such as by using the default and ignoring the attribute) then they
can choose a client or terminal emulator that does it and customize it
to suit their own tastes.

Back to agreeing with Greg.  Let's not keep making up a whole bunch of new
ways to do things when existing ways are already out there and not only
work fine now, but will work in even some unexpected cases.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: sgardner@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu (Steve Gardner)
Subject: AVALON NARC ANNOUNCEMENT
Organization: Radford University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 12:02:37 GMT

===========================================================================
CA-66:66                      CERT Advisory
                               June 6, 666
                         Avalon Nark Vulnerability
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Computer Emergency Response Team/Coordination Center (CERT/CC) has
received information concerning a vulnerability with the NARK software
in versions of Avalon up to 666. The vulnerability does not exist in the
improved "DEAD" version of Avalon.

Hackers are aware of this problem, and a fix is available as apar number
"fix666".  This patch is available for all Avalon releases from HELL to
666.

The fix is in the 666 update and DEAD release of Avalon. Hackers may
call NARK Support (+61-3-435-1654) and ask that they be Narked on.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

I.   Description

     All versions except the DEAD version of Avalon will Nark.

II.  Impact

     The Avalon is known to act erratically, narking as it executes.
     Also known to hide as a "god" whilst actively narking.

III. Solution

     - The Avalon software should be shot on site. 
 
     - It is best to shoot first and ask questions later. This will
       result in a better % chance of eliminating the correct Avalon,
       the first time.

     - The Avalon should be approached with extreme caution. Whilst
       approaching, the approachee should wear special NarkProof
       clothing to ensure against "nark" infection.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The CERT/CC would like to thank the hackers of the internet, for
bringing this security vulnerability to our attention.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you believe that your local hacker has been narked on, contact CERT/CC or
your representative in FIRST (Forum of Incident Response and Security Teams).

Internet E-mail: cert@cert.sei.cmu.edu
Telephone: 412-268-7090 (24-hour hotline)
           CERT/CC personnel answer 7:30 a.m.-6:00 p.m. EST(GMT-5)/EDT(GMT-4),
           on call for emergencies during other hours.

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Past advisories, information about FIRST representatives, and other
information related to computer security are available for anonymous ftp
from cert.sei.cmu.edu (192.88.209.5).
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From: Markku.Savela@tel.vtt.fi (Markku Savela)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: got killed for no reason, what to do???
Date: 16 Apr 92 07:02:41 GMT
	<1992Apr15.155901.27260@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Reply-To: savela@tel.vtt.fi (Markku Savela)
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland
In-reply-to: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu's message of 15 Apr 92 15:59:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.155901.27260@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:

>You could also /wallops that the kill was completely unjustified, and the
>offending op might be pressured to stop, or be killed himself.

  No, WALLOPS is the wrong advice. Not all opers listen to it (due to
  noise level). The right way to complain is either message opers
  privately or to go one of the channels that have most opers online
  (try first some of the area specific ones like #us_ops, #oz_ops,
  #eu_opers, etc..) or #twilight_zone.

  And, this is important, when you do so, don't expect any immediate
  reactions, most of people on those channels are doing other things
  (like work or whathever) and only occasionally peek in on IRC
  session to see if anything has occurred. For the same reason, those
  channels are not normally used for generic discussion either.

  Oh, and one more thing, don't greet or ask "can I ask a question?"
  or some such. Such things are usually wasted, because most are *not*
  watching the screen. Just state your request in one single message
  and let it be. If you don't get any reply within 10-15mins, you
  might try again later (say 1hour or so, maybe then more ops are
  awake :-)

  And, if you don't get answer, even if some seem to be active, the
  reason might be that nobody knows the answer at that point.
--
Markku Savela (savela@tel.vtt.fi), Technical Research Centre of Finland
Telecommunications Laboratory, Otakaari 7 B, SF-02150 ESPOO, Finland
From: william@pvcs.pvamu.edu (Devine, William Charles)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: irc client addresses
Keywords: irc clients addresses
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:18:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  hi, I'm new to the irc world and i was wondering if someone could
post the FAQ list for this group?
   I'm specifically looking for some IRC addresses i might be able
to telnet to and have irc access.  I have accounts on three vax systems
all around texas and neither of them have an irc so any help would be
appreciated !

  thanx
                                Whiz Kid
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mpevans@isis.cs.du.edu (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: lookup for bo documentation
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 10:46:56 GMT

s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins) writes:


>i am making a bot for a channel. so i really need a manual. where can i
>locate a copy??
>specifically, i need help with the followings:
First point what language are you using to write the bot in? C, pearl, lisp
IrcII script.
>1) how to auto-join when someone kick your bot off?
when you get notification of the kick command you re-join the channel.
>2) is it possible to create a a 'authorized users' list? that's it. if someone
>   is not on the list, his bot service request won't be granted
Create a list, in a form apropriate to your chosen language, see if the message
you get is from someone on that list, if so process the message, otherwise
ignore.
>3) also, any existing scripts to an eliza-like bot?
There must be an eliza algorithm floating arround, try a book on AI.
N.B. on no account join such a bot to a channel with out telling people
what it is, probably best if it has it's own channel.

You could look up the IRC protocol, it is usually to be found with the
source distributio, ftp.eff.org is probably a good place to start


>many thanks
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 19:19:17 EDT
From: <3XMQGAA@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Help: Trying to get VM/CMS IRC to run

Hi, I ftp'd all the vm irc files, and rextcpip, and when I type rxirc,
I get this error. I HAVE my rxirc names file, and it is all se tup
correctly. I think th eproblem may be that all the irc files I ftp'd
are on a 'PDisk' (Semi permenent disk), at filemode 'D', whereas my
main account directory is 'A'. But I do not have enuf room on
A to store all the irc files. Can anyone help me? this is the error:

RXIRC
Terminating: missi
ng or unreadable RXIRC NAMES file (tcprc: 0)
Immediate command HI not found

(ignore that formatting screw up).
From: marrone@ee.fit.edu (Michael Marrone)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: ircII2.1.5g.PATCH
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:34:14 GMT
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Fl


	What is the 2.1.5g.PATCH?  It looks like a modification for the
whois.c file, but I'm not familar with C, so I don't want to be poking
around.

1) What does it do?
2) How do I enter the changes (as it doesn't look like it's a complete file)
3) Is it a good idea to do it?

Thanks for any help.
Mike Marrone
From: Markku.Savela@tel.vtt.fi (Markku Savela)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: got killed for no reason, what to do???
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:45:24 GMT
	<1992Apr15.155901.27260@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <7323@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi>
	<11080@chalmers.se>
Reply-To: savela@tel.vtt.fi (Markku Savela)
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland
In-reply-to: d1rasmus@dtek.chalmers.se's message of 16 Apr 92 13:11:19 GMT

In article <11080@chalmers.se> d1rasmus@dtek.chalmers.se (Owe Rasmussen) writes:

>I find it quite amazing that people can't even use /wallop anymore

  WALLOP command was an experiment that failed. I was an idea that
  worked for a while, but then people (mostly opers) started to use it
  as an additional channel.

  Many opers are signed on IRC quite many hours per day. I am signed
  on IRC probably 12-18 hours every day. Obviously I am not very
  active most of the time, I *do* have other things to do than chat on
  IRC. I will occasionally peek on session to see if anything needs my
  attention. Private message may alert me.

  Now, the reasoning why I consider WALLOP useless are:

     There are too many WALLOP messages (e.g noise) to have wallop
     messages actually alert like private message,

     ==> WALLOP messages must be put on same class as channel messages

     Thus, WALLOP has reduced into channel. It will not reach me any
     faster than a normal message into #twilight_zone. If WALLOPS is
     channel, then why keep this extra special case in IRC. IRC code
     is bloated enough even without it.

  WALLOP has also become the favorite target for wanna-be jerks to
  annoy opers. This kind of temptations should be removed from IRC.

--
Markku Savela (savela@tel.vtt.fi), Technical Research Centre of Finland
Telecommunications Laboratory, Otakaari 7 B, SF-02150 ESPOO, Finland
From: ggurman@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Gail Gurman)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Irc versions
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:34:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: pasteur.1992Apr7.133451.1010
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

In article <1992Apr7.104725.13083@cv.ruu.nl> rvloon@cv.ruu.nl (Ronald van Loon) writes:
>In <1992Apr4.171946.5851@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes:
>
>| ">1. I liked being able to use bold.
>| "
>| "Have the IrcII people added another magic thingie in (like
>| "underlining) so that non-IrcII people get more gibberish on their
>| "screens? Say it isn't so...\
>
>Hmmm... bold typed text has been around for quite a while (over a year, maybe
>even longer). Bold text is just text surrounded with ^B's. Quite common in
>topics of channels and the like. 

That's not bold; that's reverse.  It depends on what you're using as a 
terminal.  In my case, since I'm calling in from home with a color
monitor and using vt100 emulation, reverse comes out as black text instead
of blue, but then that's the way I set up my screen colors for QModem.

Gail
From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: IRC help via FTP?
Date: 5 Apr 92 17:27:14 GMT
Organization: UB

I have heard that there are FTP sites where IRC help files are available. Can
someone post a list of what sites carry help files? It would be easier to have
a printout of these files than to have to type /help every time I wanted to
see something.

--Don

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From: David.Potter@bbs.oit.unc.edu (David Potter)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: window.c in ircII2.1.5g for PS/2 AIX 1.2.1
Summary: looking for a patch..
Date: 5 Apr 92 00:15:54 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

Recently I've been trying to compile ircII2.1.5g on my AIX cluster.
The cluster is running IBM 370 AIX 1.2.1 and apparently chokes when
it gets to the file window.c.  More specifically stated, this is my
problem (or what the compiler's problem is):

 >         cc -g -D_BSD  -c window.c
 > MetaWare High C Compiler R2.1t 
 > (c) Copyright 1987-90, MetaWare Incorporated
 > w "window.c",L1926/C5:  update_all_status
 > |    Insufficient number of arguments to function.

Now, I'm not a C-junkie, so I really don't know what I'm getting
myself into.  However, I know enough to figure out it's the
update_all_status() variable that's causing the whole client to
leave out the status line.  Anyhow, if this isn't too much to ask,
would someone please help me out and provide a "patch" so I could
get the client working?  :)  Thanks..

David Potter

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From: ggurman@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Gail Gurman)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: IRC II mailing list
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:04:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: pasteur.1992Apr10.020441.7935
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

In article <wdt4wCu00XQUQJgVRr@andrew.cmu.edu> dl2p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Douglas Allen Luce) writes:
>The IRC II discussion and mailing list has changed address (to something sane):
>  info-ircII+@andrew.cmu.edu  (IRC II Mailing List Submissions)
>  info-ircII-request+@andrew.cmu.edu (List Administration)
>To be added to the list, send e-mail to info-ircII-request+@andrew.cmu.edu
>Douglas Luce

I tried to send mail to "List Administration" and it bounced.  Is this
mailing list pretty much the same as alt.irc or does it have discussion
and information not found here?  If the latter is the case, I'd like
to join.

Gail
From: babiyd@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: IRC for VMS?
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:46:16 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Apr7.131501.1722@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au>, p2003740@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
> I think I have irc171.exe, is this the latest for VMS?

Yep, 1.7.1 is the latest version, it can be picked up from wiretap.spies.com 

Enjoy!

Dale... AKA TheCat

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: stheophy@Condor.mcs.kent.edu (Sophia Theophylactos)
Subject: What's wrong with my client?
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:37:01 GMT

I'm using a client I ftp'd from cs.bu.edu, on a vm account.  Here's the
problem:  

When I telnet to my account and run irc, everything is fine.  It works
beautifully.  But when I DIAL into my account and try to run irc, I get
this message: Error 2836757 while trying to connect (tcprc: 0).

What does this mean?  How can I fix it?

Thanks for any help you might be able to offer.
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Compiling trouble
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:23:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.203042.2745@descartes.waterloo.edu> cyeh@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Woody) writes:
>
>	But no souce code is generated :p
>	Would any one give me a hand please?

You expect your compiler to generate source code?  Son, that's what humans are
for. :)
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From: s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: how does the pattern matching algorihm work?
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:00:27 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

the subject says it, how does it work?
From: s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: got killed for no reason, what to do???
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:19:08 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst


Hi,
  I want to know can I put a stop to this madness.
  First. let me admit that I was a bit mischievious a few days ago.
  Last week, because I was dissatisfied with one user's behavior, I kicked
  him out of a channel (#asians, to be exact) and then de-OPed everyone who
  had OP, including the the channel server (Danzsrv). For that evening, I was 
  the only person who had OP in the channel and I kept kicking that offending 
  user at will. Obviously, the kicking generated a lot of unwanted traffic, and
  people were not happy about it. I ignored people's complaints anyhow. Later
  on, the channel operator (he's also an IRC operator,  nickname: dandan, 
  address: lingy@rpi.edu) came back and found out my mischief, he killed me 
  right on the spot. I log back on asked him for an explanation and he 
  explained his dissatisfaction about what I did. I realized I was wrong so 
  I apoligized and promised not to doing that again. Anyways, I've been keeping
  my promise but he obviously hasn't pardoned me. Now, he just kill me whenever
  he feels like, he no longer give me any explanation. He even kills me 
  whether I am on the #asians channel or not. This is absolute madness for 
  I've done nothing wrong since that evening. Yesterday alone, for example, 
  he killed me four times at different times of the day. I am absolutely 
  pissed off by this and I want to have this madness stopped. Now, I am afraid
  the only safe time for me to get onto IRC is when he is not around. I am 
  also afraid that I may be banned from #asians since he's the channel 
  operator there as well as an IRC operator. So, my dear netters, can you give
  me pointers on how to have this reported to some higher authority???? For the
  very least, I want lingy@rpi.edu to stop killing me for as long as I behave 
  myself. Thanks in advance for your help.

Sincerely,
Peter Hawkins, s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu
Nickname:  'lah' on IRC, usually seen on #initgame or #asians.




  

  
Newsgroups: alt.irc