From: raistlin@wixer.cactus.org (Eli Boaz)
Subject: Re: Gloat
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 00:47:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.180539.12274@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> waddell@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott V Waddell) writes:
>In article <VAITKUS.92Nov5105106@ceres.lexmark.com> vaitkus@ceres.lexmark.com (Keith Vaitkus) writes:
>> [loads of Bush bashing rhetoric deleted...]
>
>>I guess my bottom line is that all US citizens, regardless of
>>party, should get together and decide on a coherent, consistent
>>approach to foreign policy. AND we should be more aware, as
>>citizens, of the actions, and inactionsm that are committed in
>>our name by our elected government...
>
>Couldn't agree more...

Me too.

>>Flames are nice -- but we really ought to grow up as a society and
>>take more responsibility for our actions. Partisan politics really
>>have nothing to do with this... It isn't what Democrats and Republicans
>>do that matters -- What matters is what the USA does. We are ONE
>>country. ONE people. And maybe, ONE day, we will act like it.
>>
>
>Speaking of taking responsibility for our actions...We just elected
>an adulterous, combat evading, pot smoking, liberal to office who
>can't seem to take responsibility for HIS actions and shouldn't
>have been given the opportunity to act on behalf of our nation!!

First a few gripes about the bashing that is still going on.

a)  there is no *proof* that Clinton had an affair.  Even if he
did, I don't see what the BFD is about it.  An awful lot of people
DO have affairs, you know.

b)  As for the combat evading, yes, he did seem to avoid the draft
but I don't care about that.  And yes, the Republicans' had their
draft dodger too.  Remember him?  His name is Dan Quayle.

c)  As for Clinton smoking pot in his youth, that's not a big deal
either.  At least not to me, anyways.  Now if he *was* *still*
smoking pot, that *would* matter; but you'd have to provide *real*
proof, not just an accusation.

>   Maybe those of you who support Clinton/Gore didn't notice the
>market went down the day after the election due to an expected
>increase in the federal budget deficit during a Clinton presidency.

Gee, maybe you haven't noticed, but the stock market goes up and
down quite a bit, even if there's a Republican in power.  Maybe
that's why it has a nickname of "The Bungee Building" ?? [laugh]
This is quite normal in a captialistic society.  Get used to it.
Maybe you need to take Economics over again . . .

Also, another thing about the federal budget deficit.  Most of the
current federal budget deficit was incurred by the Reagan/Bush Bush/
Quayle administrations to finance the Republicans' *HUGE* military
budgets.

>   Maybe you didn't notice the liberally biased press finally asking,
>"How is Clinton going to keep all those promises?"

I believe that happens quite often.  Besides, he didn't make that many
promises.  Check -- VERY CAREFULLY -- how he stated his *plans* for
the economy, etc.  He did *NOT* promise everything to everybody, as
Bush's Clinton-bashing was claiming.  Read/listen *VERY* carefully
next time, please.

>   Maybe you didn't notice because you're the kind of people who
>want to hire someone to fix the country instead of accepting some
>of the burden and helping to fix it yourself.  At least Bush and 
>Perot were realistic about the situation.

I don't believe that one person -- despite of *any* amount of power
and influence that one person has -- can fix the problems in the
good Ol' USA.  However, one person with a good amount of power
and influence *CAN* encourage the ideas that he believes that will
help the situation.  No one person/group is ever going to "fix" the
country.  But some person/group can *help* alliviate (sp?) the sit-
uation.

>   As for foreign relations...God help us.

Why?  We seem to do quite well on our own, thank you very much.
By the way, why should Bush just roll over and quit?  He would
be very useful in foreign relations, he should be offered an
advisory position -- AT THE LEAST -- on foreign relations for the
new administration.  Why waste talent?  Use all the talent you
can find, and use it to the hilt.  George Bush is *very* good at
foreign policy, but his DOMESTIC policies sucked.  The advertise-
ments at the end of his campaign were just a "scare" tactic as
far as I'm concerned.  Besides, did Ronald Reagan receive a lot of
foreign policy experience in his stint as Governor of California?
He did quite well in that area for someone who had just as much
"on-the-job" experience as Dan Quayle has combat experience. [chuckle]

>Scott Waddell


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