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From: thmartin@romulus.rutgers.edu (Miss Animerica)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Sailor Moon: OP "Moonlight densetsu" lyrics
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:56:35 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Anime

Here are the lyrics to one of the Sailor Moon openings in romaji and
in Japanese Industrial Standard codes.  The ESC characters in the JIS
codes are replaced with "^[" for posting.

These and many other anime song lyrics and translations are available
for anonymous ftp from romulus.rutgers.edu (128.6.13.2), in the
pub/anime/lyrix subdirectory.

MUUNRAITO densetsu (Moonlight Legend)
"Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon" opening theme (1992)

GOMEN ne  sunao ja nakute
yume no naka nara ieru
shikou kairo wa SHOTTO sunzen
ima sugu  aitai yo
nakitaku naru you-na  Moonlight
denwa mo dekinai  Midnight
datte junjou  doushiyou
HAATO wa mangekyou

tsuki no hikari ni  michibikare
nandomo  meguri-au
seiza no matataki kazoe  uranau koi no yukue
onaji kuni [kanji: chikyuu] ni umareta no  MIRAKURU ROMANSU

mo ichido  futari de  Weekend
kami-sama  kanaete  Happy-end
genzai kako mirai mo
anata ni kubittake
deatta toki no  natsukashii
manazashi  wasurenai
ikusenman no hoshi kara  anata wo mitsukerareru
guuzen mo CHANSU ni kaeru  ikikata ga suki yo

fushigi-na kiseki KUROSU-shite
nandomo  meguri-au
seiza no matataki kazoe  uranau koi no yukue
onaji kuni [kanji: chikyuu] ni umareta no  MIRAKURU ROMANSU
shinjite-iru no  MIRAKURU ROMANSU


Singer: DALI
Lyricist: Oda Kanako
Composer: Komoro Tetsuya
Arranger: Ikeda Daisuke

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^[$@!VH~>/=w@o;N%;!<%i!<%`!<%s!W%*!<%W%K%s%0!&%F!<%^^[(J (1992)

^[$@%4%a%s$M!!AGD>$8$c$J$/$F^[(J
^[$@L4$NCf$J$i1>$($k^[(J
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^[$@EEOC$b=PMh$J$$!!^[(Jmidnight
^[$@$@$C$F=c>p!!$I$&$7$h$&^[(J
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^[$@$b0lEY!!$U$?$j$G!!^[(Jweekend
^[$@?@$5$^!!$+$J$($F!!^[(Jhappy-end
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^[$@2?EY$b!!=d$j9g$&^[(J
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^[$@F1$8CO5e!R$/$K!S$K@8$^$l$?$N!!%_%i%/%k!&%m%^%s%9^[(J
^[$@?.$8$F$$$k$N!!%_%i%/%k!&%m%^%s%9^[(J


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From: daemon@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Mr Background)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Anime references in the new Star Trek
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:06:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech (VPI & SU)


While it's not the right place to rave about Star Trek: Deep Space Nine,
which premieres this week across North America, I *did* notice Rick
Sternbach's name in the credits and was wondering if anyone knew if this
meant we'd see some anime references in it?..

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From: cs4bl@herts.ac.uk (The Dragon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ROBOTECH...Any orriginal animation? or is it all hacked?
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:48:32 GMT
Via:        UK.AC.HERTS; 11 JAN 93 23:46:41 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU



Christopher Leung writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.000459.3501@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email
> Otaku) writes:
>>Harmony Gold didn't hack three differenet series to make Robotech...they
>>glued them together. _;
>
>Glue, eh?  In which we have a choice of stick glue, white glue, colour glue,
>paste, and rubber cement.  I wonder which one he used? B-}

Personally I reckon it was chewing gum, paper clips and staples!!

8-)

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From: gainax@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu (Chun-Li)
Subject: Re: Sayo Onara! @_@
Organization: Ohio State University; Physics Department
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:51:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.083139.29816@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> gainax@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu (Chun-Li) writes:
>
>Well everbody, I am going to say my good-bye's to the net for a while.
>need to get some stuff straghten out and I'll be back in a couple of months.
>anyways, if you want to snail mail here is where to contact me...
>I guess...
>
>
Uh...I forgot to add this..if you still want to join as Gofers for AX 93
I'll still be there...
ok..
@_@


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From: itng500@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime references in Star Trek: Deep Space 9
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:27:15 -0500

In article <fXGL0L2@quack.sac.ca.us>, lazarus@quack.sac.ca.us (Albert Sze-Wei Wang) writes:
> 
> POSSIBLE DEEP SPACE 9 SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT.  Hit 'n' now to avoid
> me ruining the episode for you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In article <1993Jan8.012609.4597@ntmtv> takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi) writes:
>>In article <1ii99bINN2pk@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> jhm@scorch.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
> 
>>Well, you're right that Rick Sternbach is in the credits for STTNG, but
>>not because he's associated with ILM.  Rick Sternbach works in the
>>Art Department in the Star Trek Production Office as a Senior
>>Illustrator and sometime technical advisor.
> 
>>He's also the source for the many anime in-jokes that have popped
>>into STTNG from time to time.  I don't know if any have sneaked
>>into Deep Space Nine, but I wouldn't be surprised...
> 
> You mean you MISSED the Lensman Brittania class ships at the end of the 
> episode???
> Shame on you!!! ;) ;) ;)
> 
>>BTW, ILM hasn't been involved with STTNG since the premiere episode
>>     "Encounter at Farpoint"...
> 
> I doubt this.  ILM did all the stock footage for the STTNG and considering
> they have all the models, they are the only ones which could have shot the
> really cool opening sequence at the beginning of the 2 hour season premiere.
> 
> I found this premiere very refreshing and liked it very much for a first
> episode.  Strange thing is I actually found a strong sense of believability
> in the characters of DS 9, more than I did with the characters of STTNG when
> it first started.  The characteres were stiff of course, all of them still 
> getting used to their roles, but I think the first tour of duty on board DS9
> is going to be very very interesting, not to say eventful.  There were lots
> of special effects in the premiere.  Plus we got to see a small part of the
> dessimating of the Federation Fleet by the Borg.  I was probably sitting there
> like Calvin's stuffed tiger Hobbes when the episode opened:  Wow wow wow wow...
> 
> Plus that Cardassian Star Base looked kinda gothic and refreshingly different
> compared to the sterile look of the newer aerodynamically shaped Star Fleet
> ships.  I do think that more cameos by the crew of STNNG should have been
> made to add an aura of authenticity to the episode, but oh well...  Just
> seemed like Picard was the only guy around really running anything on the
> old 1701-D.
> 
> Well, I've babbled enough... back to our regularly scheduled program.
> 
> 
> Albert
> 
> 
> -- 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to... GIANT ROBO?
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:03:14 GMT
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division

In article <1993Jan11.031901.3929@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:

> In article <1993Jan10.153831.3745@nic.csu.net>, shogun@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Mike M. Tatsugawa) writes:
> > 
> > (Personally, I'm the most curious about how the Giant Robo will work out.)
> 
> Question:  whatever happened to GIANT ROBO #2?  I've heard about it, but
> nothing definite yet.  Anyone have a release date?
> -- 

I belive sometime in February at Y5800.  We are gonna try and show
both parts subtitled at Rutgers Anime this upcoming semester (PLUG!)

Steve
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From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Starbuck's research. (was Re: rec.arts.anime charter)
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:00:07 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.2.12

dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David) writes:


>Hee hee.  OK, so now we have:

>First rec.arts.anime message:
>-----------------------------
>From Ann Schubert at 3:52:32 AM Pacific Standard Time on November 14, 1987.

Okay, so where is she now?  Has she come to her senses and become
"normal" now?:-)

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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK: So, what's the big de
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 13:06:08 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <93004.152748U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> U19807@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
 >  
 > As you might guess,I've ducked behind a five-foot thick concrete blast wall.
 >  

And that's gonna save you when a Gundam otaku drops a colony on you?
Like hell! :)

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From: lennad@vccnw13.its.rpi.edu (Dmitri Lenna)
Subject: Re: Dubs and streamline
Reply-To: lennad@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:49:13 GMT

  You people are missing the point entirely. I realize that the dubs 
  are not worth looking at more than once ( if even that ). My point
  is that their existence, bad or good, helps bring new blood in to 
  anime. Let's face it, even when comparing come of the really bad
  dubs to US cartoon, the dub comes out ahead ( with the possible 
  exception for Batman : the animated series :). 

   Oh,.. just a humorous comment made by a friend of mine while
   discussing this.. " If it wasn't for Streamline, we wouldn't have a
   very clear definition of `bad anime' ."    :)


   Dmitri " Dmitheon" Lenna
   Shinma-Buma of Anime Wars Crisis
   (" Largo was my hero. " :)
From: captain5@watserv.ucr.edu (Sam P. Chung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Video Girl Ai Vol. 3, 5 (manga)
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:36:05 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1ipur3INNljv@uwm.edu> xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet)  
writes:
> 
> HI,
> 	I remember one person posting about this just a few weeks ago,
> but then I don't remember hearing any replies, so...  I am trying to
> find VGA volumes 3,5.  I was told that they are out of print, but
> that the rest are in print.  Is this true?  And if so, is there any
> other way that one can go about getting these?
> Thanks in advance,
> -- 
> 
> 		-Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)

I don't know much about this directly, but a friend of mine did tell me they
have "recalled" volumes 3 and 5.  So, I am assuming they will be back  
eventually, but with some changes probably.  As of yet, I haven't a clue as to
why they would pull them off.  I have seen copies of 3 and 5 and I can't really
find anything all that bad about them that would make the publishers recall  
them.  There were some rather provacative nude sequences in volume five, but  
I've certainly seen much worse in other manga.  Haven't a clue... but I hope  
this clears up some questions.


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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: MACROSS II SYNOPSIS NEEDED
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:54:59 GMT

In article <20739@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, ez023522@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (Pseudo X-man) writes:
> Can someone out there provide me with a synopsis of Macross II?  I really
> would appreciate it.  I saw the OAV's and I don't know what the heck 
> happened.  

You can either buy the Viz Comics adaptation or the subtitled tapes from
US Renditions.

Support anime on this country!!  ^_^
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From: 00gdwessel@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: My hard Drive sucks
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:00:03 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1ivfa9INNn4h@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ck423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doug Cha) writes:
> 
> 
> PS>  I can't believe this thread is still alive.  I thought
>      everyone would either ignore it, or flame it for causing
>      excess traffic.

Maybe more people empathize with this than you think...

Of course, maybe there's something like this in an anime that people can latch
on to and make it relevant...

For example, I think that the raid on Gaia in APPLESEED Volume 2 is the wet
dream of every person who hates computers!  :)....

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From: chadwick@world.std.com (Chadwick Ngan)
Subject: Re: rec.arts.anime charter
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:55:04 GMT

In article <fXDDa29@quack.sac.ca.us> lazarus@quack.sac.ca.us (Albert Sze-Wei Wang) writes:

>I was, but I missed the first 5 articles.  A good week back then was when
>you got 5 or 6 posts a week.  I'm guessing but I would place the origin
>of rec.arts.anime either early 89 or late 88, possibly the middle of '88.

	Hmmmm ... I remember seeing a few hundred articles accumulated when
I first started UNIX back then in early '89.  So I would place the creation
at mid '88 as well.
	By the way, was "Nausicca vs Warriors of the Wind" the first flame
war to happen back then?  I recalled that for a while it recurred at a most
distressing rate.

					Chadwick
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From: 00gdwessel@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Kahm's "pet"?
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:40:12 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <27026.9301121248@unix1.herts.ac.uk>, cs4bl%uk.ac.herts@herts.ac.uk writes:
> 
> In Outlanders, can anybody remember the name of Kahm's human "pet"? It's
> been bugging me for weeks!!
> 

I can't help you out there, but I just thought it's funny that there are two
Johji Manabe works that have the concept of a MALE human "pet" in them....

I didn't know this previously, since I've not read/seen OUTLANDERS, but my
buddy currently reads the Dark Horse CARAVAN KIDD, so I read them, and noticed
this...

Hmmmm

What are some of his other works, and do they also have this concept in them? I
think I'm beginning to notice a pattern here....

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From: 00gdwessel@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Kahm's "pet"?
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:43:35 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1993Jan12.201137.6599@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, parasite@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Leslie Mills) writes:
> In article <1993Jan12.114012.13505@bsu-ucs> 00gdwessel@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
> 
>>(prvs part deleted)
> 
>>I can't help you out there, but I just thought it's funny that there are two
>>Johji Manabe works that have the concept of a MALE human "pet" in them....
>>
>>I didn't know this previously, since I've not read/seen OUTLANDERS, but my
>>buddy currently reads the Dark Horse CARAVAN KIDD, so I read them, and noticed
>>this...
>>
> Well, if you read both Outlanders and Caravan Kidd, you'll also notice that
> the main female characters are 'beautiful women with swords', a theme that
> Johji Manabe is reportedly fond of using.
> 

Oh, yeah, that too....

Just didn't wanna state the blatantly obvious!  :)

>>Hmmmm
>>
>>What are some of his other works, and do they also have this concept in them? I
>>think I'm beginning to notice a pattern here....
> 
>> (.sig deleted)
> 
> I can't help you there.  I only read what they can translate.
> 
> -- 
> Leslie Mills
> 
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Proposal for a rec.arts.anime split
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:44:41 GMT

In article <1ivcqtINNhvn@sumax.seattleu.edu>, kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo) writes:
> 
> like I say before, you can not avoid biase in both the last cases, 
> Usenet is not suppose to be the advertising net for people's profit
> gain, if any computer company dare to even cross the line whoever
> account might be taking away from him, (technical support is ok), we
> bent over backward for the anime company because there is so few of them
> and the fans need them.  but to list them under .info is as illigal 
> to the net as putting script under them.

Actually, this is not true.  Product announcements seem to be tolerated
in some places (see comp.sys.mac.announce for an example).

> not enough?  if a group is created I bet over a period of one year 
> (not day by day) it will have comparable post compare to .info, it will
> not only be used for the finished products, but discussions during the 
> creation process will also go there.

"If we build it, they'll come"?  Nope, I'm still not convinced.  Sorry.

> something like rec.arts.startrek.* would be 
> required, why not do it right the first time?

Well, we could put r.a.a.marketplace to a vote (along with the r.a.a.m.
renaming, which I think is a good idea).  If the vote passes, then I
was mistaken about the lack of interest.  :-)  If it fails, then nothing
is lost, as the other newsgroups don't depend on its existence (you
can re-try the vote six months down the road).

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