From: moser@sw.stratus.com (Tom Moser)
Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics.new-theories
Subject: Re: FREE-ENERGY Technology
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:10:13 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

I only have a few minutes so I will only comment on the MOST amusing aspects of
this post. In article <1992Sep29.181540.1413@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
> 
>           
>             
>                             FREE-ENERGY TECHNOLOGY
>                        by Robert E. McElwaine, Physicist

	And astronomer

>           
>                Ninety to a hundred years ago, everybody "knew" that a 
>           heavier-than-air machine could not possibly fly.  It would 
>           violate the "laws" of physics.   All of the "experts" and 
>           "authorities" said so. 
>           

	I was not around 90 years ago but I am pretty sure that they
	had birds back then. Last time I checked birds were heavier 
	than air. Birds are an example of heavier than air machines
	which can fly without violating the laws of physics.

> [stuff about wonderful, simple 'free energy' devices that no one builds
>   despite their simplicity and utility deleted]

>           
>                Crystals may someday be used to supply energy, as shown 
>           in the Star Trek shows, perhaps by inserting each one between 
>           metal capacitor plates and bombarding it with a beam of 
>           particles from a small radioactive source like that used in a 
>           common household smoke detector. 

	I agree totally - this entire post is very much like Star Trek,
	amusing, half-plausible fiction - entertaining but not much use
	except for TV shows. By the way - on Star Trek the crystals are
	used to control the matter/anti-matter reaction do not actually
	supply the power.

> [cold fusion, and working fusion deleted]

>           
>                In terms of economics, the market has FAILED.  Inventors 
>           do not have enough money and other resources to fully develop 
>           and mass-produce Free Energy Equipment, and the conventional 
>           energy producer$ have no desire to do so because of their 
>           VE$TED INTERE$T$.  The government is needed to intervene.  If 
>           the government does not intervene, then the total supply of 
>           energy resources from the earth will continue to decline and 
>           will soon run out, prices for energy will increase, and 
>           pollution and its harmful effects (including the 'GREENHOUSE 
>           EFFECT', acid rain, smog, radioactive contamination, oil 
>           spills, rape of the land by strip mining, etc.) will continue 
>           to increase. 

	Don't forget the ozone hole.

>           
>                The government should SUBSIDIZE research and development 
>           of Free Energy by Inventors and universities, subsidize 
>           private production (until the producers can make it on their 
>           own), and subsidize consumption by low-income consumers of 
>           Free Energy Hardware. 


	Wouldn't that piss off the aforementioned special interests who 
	are running the world?

>  [more stuff about how the government would cause it's own collapse 
>    if it sponsored any of these wonderful ideas]

	Let's be serious - Some of these devices are REALLY simple to build
	eg. Joseph Newman's engine - if they work then why don't we see
	anyone except an Arkansas pig farmer using them? Does Newman
	run his microwave and toaster from one of these?

	[apologies to anyone from Arkansas or any pig farmers - I know
	several of each and no insult is intended - I just don't expect them
	to be the first and only users of new global energy technologies]

Tom 
B.S. Computer Science
U of Illinois (Champaign)