From: gt6737b@prism.gatech.EDU (E.A. JAAFAR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: NO MORE ILLEGAL WORKERS, PLEASE !!!
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:08:20 GMT
Organization: The North Ave. Trade School, Atlanta, GA 30332

In article <1993Jan11.141833.631@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu>, thtee@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
> Hi all Netters;
>  
> to keep those people in our land. I don't believe on the explanation which was
> given by the government says that our country  needs skilled and cheap workers.
> If we really need some skilled workers, the best workers to keep, are not those
> crazy Indonesians, but those refugees in Pulau Pilong(?) who I believe will
> certainly more skillful than those Indonesian. 

	I that believe you are refering to Pulau Bidong, several miles off the
	shores of Trengganu.

	If I can recall correctly, the particular island(administrated by
	a federal unit under our National Security Council), was closed 
	for the Cambodia and Vietnam refugees 2 or 3 years ago.

	Those refugees at Pulau Bidong were enroute to a better country
	namely US and France and that Pulau Bidong was set up as one of the
	two(?) official gateways to 'freedom'(the other being Hong Kong.  If
	you can remember, HK has since also closed its facility for those
	people.)(oh well I just remember another one in Manila....)
	US and France did not make it a secret that they only accepted 
	certain refugees - preferrably those with college degrees.

> 
>            According to our new policy, any Illegal Indonesian Workers in
> Malaysia who has stayed in Malaysia for more than tree days, can apply for
> working permit and than go further to apply the red color Identity card.
>  For those refugees in Pulau Pilong, they can only accepted by Malaysia 
> unless they convert to Islam or in the other word, become a Muslim. 
> 
	I must say that this is news to me.  However, should there be
	any concrite evidence, please keep us in this net informed.


> 	Can anybody tell me in what sence those Illegal Indonesian can
> contribute to the development of our country. Most of employers using those
> illegal Workers because  it is true that those worker are certainly 
> cheaper than the local legal worker; but in the long term it seems does not
> help because those illegal worker will bring all the have earn back to their to
> their country. That means the currency of our country will flow out and later
> affect our entire economy circle. Once our economy become weeker, the price of
> those raw materia will certainlly drop. This means that those employer will not
> save their money by employing those Illegal worker. In long term, they will
> just loosing more than what they have save. 
> 
	Indeed, illegal aliens caused a heck of a social problem to us.
	However, we cant also deny their importance esp in hard labor jobs.
	I believe that what we need is a greater control of their influx
	into our country.  One way to control is to ease immigration
	red-tape or the other way around for that matter.  One advantage
	of easing the immigration procedures(from my point of view of
	course)is that making our Immigration dept. more attractive to them
	and by that virtue, we can keep tap on them, do some health           
	inspection etc to make sure they dont bring deseases from their 
	homeland.(this is just an example.)


> 	In addition, just look at what those illegal workers have done to 
> our society. They become robber, killer, theif, and involve in all kinds of
> crimes. Why we still want to keep them in our lands ? Just because there are
> Muslim or because they are cheapper worker ? 
> 
	Thugs are thugs no matter where the come from and of what race and
	of what religion.  As a friendly gesture, I would suggest you
	stop using your hypothesis(Moslems and illegal aliens) for I fear
	someone would start a 'holy' war in this net.  Should you have
	any proofs however of such practice in M'sia, I'm sure all
	m'sians are more than welcome to hear abt. it.


> 	PLEASE WAKE UP ALL MALAYSIANS !!! TELL OUR GOVERNMENT WE DO NOT WANT
> THOSE ILLEGAL WORKERS ANY MORE. FOR YOUR OWN ADVANTAGES, OUR SOCIETY, AND OUR
> LAND, PLEASE KICK THEM OUT.
> 
>
	Kinda sounds like the ultra-right wing group(s) in Germany is(are)
	saying aint it?(no offense intended)
 
> 
> 
> TEE 
> BY ANGER.

  

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