HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blondie@netcom.com (Jill Firch)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Help on Mailing lists (creating ML for enya)
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:00:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: apple.65163
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@ames.arc.nasa.gov
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May I suggest alt.music.enya?


-jill
From: lester@gandalf.etdesg.TRW.COM (JAL)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Sarah Hits L.A.
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:13:46 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Sarah McLachlan will be performing at the Variety Theater in Los Angeles on
Wednesday, April 29th. Tickets go on sale at Ticketmaster tomorrow (Saturday
April 11th) at 10:00 A.M.


Unfortunately my band has a gig that night and I will miss the concert :-(


-Jeff Lester
From: gatech!chinet.chi.il.us!katefans@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Happy Rhodes
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:14:51 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


In article <KJETILHO.92Apr1015935@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no> kjetilho@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no (Kjetil Torgrim Homme) writes:
>In article <5w3giB3w164w@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us> tlb@bsbbs.oh.us writes:
>   [...] You can get a catalog of her stuff [...] by writing:
>   Aural Gratification
>
>Would anyone be so kind to post the order numbers for Warpaint and the
>other recods and p&p costs for overseas? Thanks!
>
>
>Kjetil T. (budding Happy fanatic?)


Hi, I was waiting to see if someone from Europe would answer this with
how much they paid for postage. Perttu from Finland bought Warpaint
first, but I don't know how much he paid and he's on vacation right
now. I think $6.00 American would be sufficient for Airmail to Norway.
If it were less Kevin will give you a refund. I will ask Kevin when I
talk to him if that is just for Warpaint or Warpaint plus the 4 cassettes,
which, btw, will be released on CD in mid-May.


Order numbers aren't really necessary, just indicate which album(s) you
want. Rhodes Vol. 1, Rhodes Vol 2, Rearmament, Ecto or Warpaint. You 
might get Warpaint first, then if you like it, get the others on CD in
May. If you do become a budding Happy fanatic, you'll definitly want the
bonus tracks that will be on the 1st4 CDs. A couple of them are already
in circulation and we know how good they are. It'll be great having them
on CD. Plus, the artwork on the covers of the first 2 albums will be
different from the cassettes, *and* they'll have the lyrics in the CD
booklets (which Happy is putting together herself) so the wait will be
worth it. I never thought I'd see the day...Happy said once that the 1st4
would *never* be released on CD, but the fans wouldn't let them die...


Thanks!


Vickie
From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: KATE'S GRANDMA....?
Keywords: Kate Bush Grandmother
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:28:15 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@bloom-beacon.mit.edu
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


In article <65369@apple.Apple.COM> u907295@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Scott Keene) writes:
>I just happened to notice in my Russkiy Slovar the other day that "BABOOSHKA"
>  is Russian for "GRANDMOTHER".  Is this common knowledge?
'Babooshka' was the reason I got into KaTe! And although I liked 'Wuthering 
Heights' when I heard it for the first time in 1979, I didn't buy TKI.
But since my grandmother was teaching me Russian at the time, when I heard
'babooshka' on the radio I ran and bought NFE. Of course, there was 
another association. 'Ya ya' in greek also means grandmother! :)
So to me the refrain was
'All yours, grandmother grandmother grandmother, grandmother' :)


Technically speaking though, in Russian, grandmother is BA'-booshka, and
not baBOO'shka the way KaTE sings it... 


Angelos
From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re:  Le Moon Seven Times Info/Update
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:16:03 GMT
Organization: fegmaniax anonymous
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


brownfld@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth R Brownfield) sez:
>     The single is going to be on Parasol records, the same Parasol here in
>Urbana, Illinois.  


actually, that's fine. i can mail order from parasol and show sales. that
is what i'm more concerned about.


>     I agree.  I think Miranda is the best song for popularity's sake, but
>My Medicine and Motion may be more attention grabbing, I don't know.  


i listened to the tape a feww more times and thought about it and decided
that "her house" and "my medicine" were better tracks that "miranda". i
dunno why either, but they just seem to be good together and also display
those qualities i was talking about before (showcasing new strengths, etc).


and what is the song "motion"? no song of that name appears on the tape i
have. is this one of the new ones? or a renamed old one?


and "sweet magnolias" can be the followup power ballad. ;)


>what targets are good to promote alternative singles nowadays?  


a good question since no one (except for a small group of folks) seem to
even consider the single a viable form of release anymore. amongst that
group, which includes labels like slumberland in the united states and 
many many many labels in britain, the word seems to be spread mostly by
word-of-mouth, constant gigging and so forth. radio promotion in the 
college realm rarely makes a difference (no matter how many times michael 
stipe thanks college radio in his acceptance speeches). getting the single
added at a "pop progressive" station like wxpn or whfs or kits is a good,
but hard, thing to do. but really, word of mouth is often the best - and
in this case, the m7x has electronic dissemination at its disposal as 
well...


>     :-)  I don't think you'd believe what gigs (practice, practice, practice)
>is doing for her voice.  Lynn's voice with the control of Caroline Crawley.


don't let brant nelson hear you say that. he'll castrate you! ;)
--
woj - he's a long kebab through your ovaries - where's those angels...?
From: jessica@dartagnan.rutgers.edu (jessica)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: New Diamanda
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:36:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University Computing Services
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




farrellj@aqua.pc.ocunix.on.ca (Farrel McGovern) writes:


>  I have seen Sarah a few times now, and she never sang the same cover in 
>another show. I am pretty sure that if you heard her cover a song, she would 
>not sing it again in concert...


She did "Gloomy Sunday" (a billy holiday song) in boston, and reviews
posted from m any other shows (chicago and NY at least) also mention
that song.  


I'm also pretty sure she has done the talk talk cover more than once.


I tihnk she just has a few different song she likes to cover, but will
only perform one (or at most two) covers each concert. Makes sense,
really. so I'd geuss she just picks the one whe's most in the mood for
that night. (though she seems to always close with Gloomy Sunday
recently).




				jessica
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|| jessica  || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for ||
|| lawrence ||    brings us    || any moment in time, every memory of mine.  ||
|| koeppel  ||    together.    || Those years are lines of color on my face, ||
|| dembski  ||        --Kate   || the past is warpaint.     --Happy Rhodes   ||
From: nrc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us (N. Richard Caldwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: re: Brazil
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:32:37 GMT
Organization: The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198)
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


ganzer@cod.nosc.MIL (Mark T. Ganzer) writes:


> It's  been  years since I since I saw the laser-disk  version  at
> Andy Marvick's house in LA. I do remember the movie was well over
> 2 hours in length, thus I do think this was the "director's cut",
> since  one  of  the  battles that Gilliam had  was  the  studio's
> insistance on getting the movie under 2 hours in length


I don't think such a thing exists unless it was an import.  I
think there was a compromise that brought the running time to
just over two hours, the current pan & scan laser disc release
shows a running time of 131 minutes, which sounds right.  The 
studio was forced to give in at that length by Gilliams maneuver
with the LA film critics.


Someone wondered whether the film critics really thought that
highly of the movie.  I don't know about the critics (who does?),
but I certainly do.  I suspect that with studio support Brazil
would have received even more accolades.  




"Don't drive too slowly."         Richard Caldwell
                                  The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198)
                                  {n8emr|nstar}!bluemoon!bsbbs!nrc
                                  nrc@bsbbs.Columbus.OH.US
From: MTARR@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Sarah on FNX
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:45:33 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Hi!


From:	greg@mobius.viewlogic.com (Gregory Larkin)


>For those in the Boston area, the concert at the Charles Theater
>will be broadcast live on WFNX, 101.7 FM starting at 8:30 pm.


Ack!!!  Somebody puh-leeze tape this!  I'll send you a tape...please e-mail.
Thanks!


Oh, and a note to the Evil Tofu: I noticed you're from Florida Tech-
I'm from the area...e-mail me!


(Sorry, I accidentally deleted your address. :})
  ======================================================================
  |Meredith Tarr                      "Get to the point you sappy wimps|
  |Wesleyan University                 I haven't got a lifetime        |
  |Middletown, CT                      Simplicity is beauty            |
  |USA, Earth                          Are there poets less sublime?"  |
  |mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu                            -Happy Rhodes   |
  ======================================================================
From: rhill@netlink.cts.com (Ron Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: New Homeground
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:56:34 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




        I just got the latest HOMEGROUND, and it's really good, probably my 
favorite since the one that had the pics from the convention.  Highly 
recommended. 
        They mention two articles in the excellent FIVE YEARS AGO section, 
one from THE ABSOLUTE SOUND, and the other from HURRICANE?  Anyone have 
these? 


        They also mention a new book: 


        Kate Bush - The First Twelve Years is another collection of newpaper 
and magazine cutting covering the years from 1978 in two volumes selling for 
about &12-00 [pounds].  Details can be obtained via the fanzine Never For 
Ever.   [Who's address they list as 28 Millbrook St, Plasmar 1, Swansea  SA6 
8JY Wales.]




        Naturally this caught my attention!  Does anyone else have any more 
details? 


        Also, does anyone here subscribe to WATCHING STORMS and can tell me 
any more about it, other then the information in THE GARDEN? 




Ron 






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From: shaun@iris.mincom.oz.au (Man in Polyester Suit)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: New Diamanda
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:50:12 GMT
Reply-To: shaun@iris.mincom.oz.au (Man in Polyester Suit)
Organization: Mincom, Brisbane, Australia
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




In article <65153@apple.Apple.COM> kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) writes:
 >
 >In article <65124@apple.Apple.COM> saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu (Saurav Misra) writes:
 >>Any feedback on the new Diamanda Galas? The CD pic makes her look downright,
 >>uh...marketable. I hope no unfortunate Christian Muzak listeners misinterpret
 >>the song titles in the back and buy the disc. "Where were you when my lord
 >>was crucified!" - indeed.
 >
 >
 >Since my very local music store seems unable to carry Tori Amos for one reason
 >or another, I decided  to buy the new Diamanda Galas instead. I found the fact
 >that she covered Gloomy Sunday (the Billie Holiday song that Sarah McLachlan
 >also covers in her live shows) a good sign. Not having heard anything from her
 >before all I can say is SCARY STUFF. Her voice is all over the place.    


 I just got this a couple of days ago, and all I can say is, THIS woman singing
 her heart out alone with her piano (as is the case with "The Singer"), makes
 little Tori Amos sound like whiney kid taking first lessons.


 ->BIG<- smiley should be inferred (for Amos fans).


 Shaun




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             The eight legs of the devil now are crawling up my spine" - Galas
From: MTARR@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: AUGH!
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:25:29 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Hi!


So 10,000 Maniacs played in Amherst, about 45 minutes from me, and I could've
gone?????????????????????


And I thought the net was supposed to be a great source of information. :P
  ======================================================================
  |Meredith Tarr                      "Get to the point you sappy wimps|
  |Wesleyan University                 I haven't got a lifetime        |
  |Middletown, CT                      Simplicity is beauty            |
  |USA, Earth                          Are there poets less sublime?"  |
  |mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu                            -Happy Rhodes   |
  ======================================================================
From: sequent!PDaXcess.techbook.com!embeach@uunet.UU.NET (Elana Mell Beach)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Gawdawful Kate puns
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:12:06 GMT
Organization: Portland Public Access sponsored by TECHbooks Bookstore
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Like the subject says!  You have been warned...!
 
One day about two years ago, I and another Kate fan were at the
apartment of a third fan, happily listening to her music and
talking about nothing else.  (Out of respect for both, I won't name
them as they helped caused this awful upcoming pun!)  I was reading
thru some old copies of Homeground and came upon one of Kris' great
chocolate fantasies.  It inspired me this thought:
 
     Me:  "Hey, guys!  It's too bad none of us has any talent in  
     fine-art sculpting!  Otherwise we could buy a HUGE cube of   
     fine chocolate, carve it into a perfect life-size copy of    
     Kate's head, face, and shoulders, and then send it to Kris!"
 
     First Friend: "That would be mean!"
 
     Me: "What do you mean that would be mean?"
 
     First:  "What could she do, look at it or eat it?"
 
Well, I thought THAT was a good point!  Yet, as I was trying to
think of a good reply, guess who had the last word!
 
    Second Friend:  "well, you know what THAT means!"
 
    Me:  "What?"
 
    Second:  "You can't have your Kate and eat it too!"
 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm outta here!
 
B-)
 
QLLD


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From: saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu (Saurav Misra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Tori overflow? Not!
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:08:02 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Oh no! The inevitable calls that Gaffa is being flooded w. Tori related
mail have begun! Started by the inimitable Jon Drukman nonetheless!
Er, isn't there a new Skinny Puppy disk out that you can go listen to?
Please folks, continue to send Tori-related mail: it's fun, it's interesting
and it bulks up Gaffa enough to make it worth reading (I get the digest).
I don't understand why other artists can't get the spotlight in this
newsgroup every so often, especially considering Kate's, uh, erratic output.
 Heck, if it were up to me, discussion would center on "Comparisons between
Kate's and Corrosion of Conformity's treatment of vegetarian issues" and
other such esoterica. Long live diversity!
---flames directed to:---
saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu
(saurav misra)
 
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 you start to believe it's the real thing..." - Dr. Leonard Freedman
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: KATE'S GRANDMA....?
Keywords: Kate Bush Grandmother
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:37:33 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




In article <65369@apple.Apple.COM> u907295@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Scott Keene) writes:
>I just happened to notice in my Russkiy Slovar the other day that "BABOOSHKA"
>  is Russian for "GRANDMOTHER".  Is this common knowledge?


It's common knowledge among those who know Russian. :-)  Actually, in
the Russian word the accent is on the first syllable, not the second.


I don't know if Kate knew this, though.  It's possible she wanted to
use a word that sounded Russian and endearing.


Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov






Xref: sparky rec.music.gaffa:1787 rec.music.misc:14108
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Help on Mailing lists (creating ML for enya)
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:43:10 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




In article <65072@apple.Apple.COM> ml@vcp1.vcp.monash.edu.au writes:
> 
> I'm seriously considering setting up mailing list for information and articles,
> ect. about enya.  Articles and discussion on rec.music.newage are getting a
> little on the mundane side with regard to enya - always the same questions
> being asked.  Hopefully a mailing list would lessen the mundane messages and
> quell passions and flames and the same time. (There is a proposal to create a
> rec.music.enya newsgroup but somehow I don't think it will succeed as there 
> might not be enough users dedicated to carry the newsgroup on.  But I might be
> wrong.  It has not yet gone to a vote.)


Mailing lists are an incredible pain in the butt (for the list maintainer).
Not only do you have hassles with mail bouncing, you always get requests to
join when you don't have time/energy to deal with them, and you will still
be getting them long after the list is dead.


What you want to do is create alt.music.enya or alt.fan.enya - alternate
groups are usually created after only a little discussion and without the
voting stuff.  If it's still active n-months from now, and you have ~20
different people posting per month, you will probably have enough readers
for a vote to pass.  If not, it was just a momentary excitement and didn't
really justify it's own group vs. the general new age category.


See alt.config and related groups for details.  I should be admitted that
not everyone can get the alt groups, but still it gives the most bang for
the buck, and you can set up an e-mai gateway if you wish.


-- 
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From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Sarah McLachlan 2nd cd already available?
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:38:32 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




In article <65315@apple.Apple.COM> @EDDIE.MIT.EDU,@vm1.gatech.edu:GONTERNN@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at writes:
>The subject says it all.  Is her 2nd cd available by now or is it
>held back still, if so, does anyone have a clue why?


It was released in the US in January.  It had been released in Canada
last year.  I have no idea what the situation is in Austria, where you
are posting from.


Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov
From: kms@world.std.com (Kelly M Stanonik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Tori Amos
Keywords: silent all these years
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:33:06 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Apparently-To: uunet!rec-music-gaffa
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


v115p8d6@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Quenby M Chunco) writes:




>Would anyone be able to post the lyrics to "silent all these years" by
>Tori Amos? I would much appreciate it.


Silent All These Years:


my momma sock it to me she taught me how
to live duh da da duh da da duh duh da


Oh, sorry...  Here it is:


SILENT ALL THESE YEARS excuse me but can I be you for
a while my DOG won't bite if you sit real still I got the
anti-Christ in the kitchen yellin' at me again yeah I can
hear that been saved again by the garbage truck I got
something to say you know but NOTHING comes yes I know
what you think of me you never shut-up yeah I can hear
that but what if I'm a mermaid in these jeans of his with her
name still on it hey but I don't care cause sometimes I said
sometimes I hear my voice and it's been HERE silent all
these years so you found a girl who thinks really deep
thoughts what's so amazing about really deep thoughts boy
you best pray that I bleed real soon how's that thought for
you my scream got lost in a paper cup you think there's a 
heaven where some screams have gone I got 25 bucks and a
cracker do you think it's enough to get us there years go by
will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand years
go by if I'm stripped of my beauty and the orange clouds
raining in my head years go by will I choke on my tears till 
finally there is nothing left one more casualty you know
we're too EASY easy easy well I love the way we com-
municate your eyes focus on my funny lip shape let's hear
what you think of me now but baby don't look up the sky is
falling your MOTHER shows up in a nasty dress it's your
turn now to stand where I stand everybody lookin' at you
here take hold of my hand yeah I can hear them...


That should be about as accurate as you can get








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From: stev0@sti.com (Steve Berlin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Possibly old news
Summary: Andy Warhol
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:11:15 GMT
Organization: Software Transformation, Inc.
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Hi -


(Assuming this letter gets out; our newsfeeder loves playing "Night Of The
Living Dead".  And I don't even want to TALK about the horrible things it
does to E-Mail).


ahem, anyway:


You may already know this, but I just learned first-hand last night.


I was watching on PBS the documentry "Superstar - The Life and Times of Andy
Warhol" (one of MY heros! - and for once I'm not being sarcastic).  Near
the very beginning, they have a montage of what was happening in current
events around the time Warhol went to that big factory in the sky, followed
by a montage of TV newscasters announcing his death.


The background music:  "Wow!" (Yes, THAT "Wow!")


It took ME by surprise!


- Stev0 the repetitive


"All yours, Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka, Ya-ya!"
- Tori Amos


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