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From: alexmi@soul.tv.tek.com (Alex Mitaru)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Digital Coax, 1.5m, b/w cd & dat, <=$200: suggestions?
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:59:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix TV Products

In article <1992Jul22.195620.599@leland.Stanford.EDU> ianchan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ian Hin Yun Chan) writes:
>sounds VERY transparent, but not bright. Bass is very controlled. It's wierd
>how this cable performs excellently both as regular and digital interconnects!
>- Ian

 Yep, it is wierd....       


 alex
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Subject: Re: Mail order experiences with "Abe's of Maine" 
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:42:58 GMT

yves@speedy.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yves Vidal) writes:

>AVOID, AVOID AVOID.

>When I decided to buy a camcorder, I called those people, as their 
>prices "look" very appealing.....

>The price given does not include anything ! You have to add for 
>warranty, batteries, shipping, packing...... The equipment 
>advertised is not even "PASSED". It is grey market shipped from 
>Hong-Kong. They do not guarantee when you will get it, since they 
>have no control on it. All in all, if you want regular stuff, you end
>up paying more than other *honest* discount places. 

>To top it off, they are not even polite on the phone and will never
>tell you Hello, Good-Bye or thank you. They treat you like sh....
>especially a woman answering the phone.

>Give it a try for fun, and then order from someone else.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This doesn't sound like my idea of fun!


Regards,	
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From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Best news about LPs...
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:12:05 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <25637@sophia.inria.fr> Thierry.Despeyroux@sophia.inria.fr writes:
>There is an another test that has been done some years ago, at the begining
>of the laser years. It was a blind test, with (1) an LP, (2) the same record
>on CD, and (3) the same CD plus some noise added with the proper equipment. 
>For some people, (2) was better. For other (1) and (3) was better (comments
>was "more music", "more life"). Nobody made the difference between (1) and (3).
>Most of the people was professional.

Vaguely related to this, one of the favored CD 'tweaks' over here,
particularly popular with vinyl fans, is a magic box called
'Francenstein'.  (Spelled more or less that way, it's an acronym,
though I can never remember what for, 'frequency adaptive mutter mumble
mumble'.)  You hook it up to the analog outputs of your CDP, and at the
other end to your amp's CD input.  One of the local hi-fi mags tested
one.

They were a bit annoyed, on opening it, to find that the entire insides
had been potted so that they conldn't see what the circuitry was, but
the measured effect of the box is to cut down on channel separation by
leaking a bit of the right channel into the left, and vice versa, with
the amount of leakage varying according to frequency.  (I have a vague
feeling that if I'd paid more attention in my introductory EE course
25-ish years ago, that would probably be enough info to allow me to
duplicate it. :-)

Could it be that the real 'problem' is that CD is TOO good? :-)  If so,
I recall interesting parallel sorts of criticism when stereo came in to
replace mono.  (I'm a bit too young to remember when 33s replaced 78s,
though I certainly remember them co-existing, but I understand that
similar things were said then.)

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From: wkb@cbnews.cb.att.com (wm.keith.brummett)
Subject: Re: Cambridge SoundWorks?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:20:09 GMT


    In article <1992Jul30.194043.3310@keinstr.uucp>, marks@keinstr.uucp
    (Mike Marks) writes:
    >
    > >Doesn't Cambridge have the print ads featuring a photo of an
    > >elderly-looking Henry Kloss listening carefully to some speakers?
    > 
    > Is this the same Kloss responsible for the Kloss Novabeam TV's
    > and Kloss Video Corp?  


    Yup.  And the founder of Advent Corp, and the "K" in KLH (might the
    other two be Lansing and Harmon?), and probably a dozen others that I
    don't know about.  Seems all the old audio gods used to periodically
    reassemble groups of themselves into various permutations, start a
    company, build a product or two, then repeat the whole process.

    -- Keith

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From: quinn@dartmouth.edu (Jerry Quinn)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Deep Bass Follow-up
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:31:19 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Another VERY powerful low bass spot (in my SHO's JBL system at least)
is on the second track of Phantom of the Opera.  I forget what the
track is, but it is right after the auctioneer.  A pipe organ gives
everything it's got.

Jerry Quinn
quinn@cs.dartmouth.edu
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From: tomf@techbook.com (Thomas E. Flynn)
Subject: Mail order experience with J & R Music World?
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:19:38 GMT

Hi,

   I'm considering buying a receiver from a mail order company, and I've
   gotten a good quote from J & R Music World.  Has anyone had any
   good or bad experience with them?

   Thanks!

-Tom (tomf@techbook.com)

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From: mwandel@bnr.ca (Markus Wandel)
Subject: Trivia question:  Distortion on new LPs?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:28:56 GMT

A question for all you audiophile gurus...  I have heard at least two
copies of "Brother Where You Bound" by Supertramp, and on both/all
of them the sound quality on the track "Forever Open Door" is just
AWFUL whereas the rest of the record is great.  Intentional distortion
for effect, defect in the master tape, defect in the pressing
(both/all copies likely made in Canada)?

Recently I got a brand new copy of "Bad Reputation" by David Wilcox
on vinyl and was very disappointed.  Several tracks have a crackly
distortion on them that sounds sort of like "overmodulation".  Am
I the only one getting this (Canadian pressing again).  Other LPs
play OK, stylus is new, and adjusting antiskating or tracking force
changes nothing.  Am I imagining things or do the grooves in the
afflicted portions look like they almost run into each other?

When records are pressed in different countries, are they all pressed
from masters made in the same place or does the master tape->grooves
process get repeated at each factory?

Answers appreciated.

Markus Wandel
markus@pinetree.org <-- NOT where I post this from.
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Best news about LPs...
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:27:33 GMT
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL

In article <3805@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> macman+@pitt.edu (Dennis H Lippert) writes:

>IMHO, the extra cost is definitely worth it for the jewel box alone.

And the money-managers at most record companies are doing their
damndest to eliminate the jewel box.    And if they do I bet
you won't see much of a drop in price, but they just make more
money.

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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: ianchan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ian Hin Yun Chan)
Subject: Re: Digital Coax, 1.5m, b/w cd & dat, <=$200: suggestions?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:56:20 GMT

In article <71178076422666@pepper.ra.anl.gov> colosia@pepper.ra.anl.gov (MB Colosia RA/208/sd 9130) writes:
>
>A good local hi-fi shop mentioned "PSS by David Hum" as an excellent
>passive coax b/w my nad 5k & my denon dtr-2k.  I looked in my popular
>references: tas, stereophile, hifi, audiophile ... nothing.
>
>I'd appreciate hearing any info on locating said cable & experience.
>Musical tastes: classical, jazz, mellow rock.  Prefer good soundstage
>and well defined bass, forward in presentation but not too bright.
>
>thanks,
>
>mark colosia
>argonne natl lab	wrk: 708-252-9130
>argonne, il		colosia@salt.ra.anl.gov

Never heard of the PSS, but I can definitely recommend the Music and Sound
MASterlink Premium (Black). It's $90 for 1m. The cable (as digital coax)
sounds VERY transparent, but not bright. Bass is very controlled. It's wierd
how this cable performs excellently both as regular and digital interconnects!
There's also the MASterlink LP (Gray), going for $200 for 1m. They can be mail-
ordered from The Cable Co. (1-800-FAT-WYRE).
- Ian

Xref: sparky rec.audio:10761 rec.audio.pro:1332
From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.audio.pro
Subject: Old Recording Restoration
Keywords: glass based disks, acetate
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:48:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: gold.4904
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

I am looking for information on the restoration of old disk
recordings.  The label on the disk reads "special needled for acetate"
it is also notes on some of the disks that they are glass based disks.

Some of the disks are what appears to be a coating over an aluminum
blank.

They also have a ceter hole with three holes in a triangle pattern.

Anyone with information about the sucessful playing of this type of
disk or information of a professional restoration service please Email
me.

Bob don't I remember you saying something about a transcribing project
like this?

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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: colby@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Colby Leider)
Subject: Question
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:52:13 GMT


Is there any kind of tape deck or cd player that has pitch control AND the
ability to alter playback speed without affacting the pitch?

I know there are VCRs that allow you to watch a tape at +/- ~12% speed while
keeping the pitch the same.

Thanks for your input.

colby@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu


ability to
From: Walt Fong <w_fong@lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Looking for Adcom and NAD
Date: 27 Jul 1992 22:40:17 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.64.92
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

I would like to know where I can get a good deal on an ADCOM 545II amp
and NAD 1300 
pre-amp.  Any suggestions on mail order or local authorized dealers would
be greatly
appreciated.  Also, any comments on any better equipment I could get for
the same
amount of money would be helpful.   Please send replies to
w_fong@lbl.gov.  Thanks.
From: rmf@bpdsun1.uucp (Rob Finley)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Advice on a Pro-Logic Receiver
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:53:43 GMT
Organization: Harris Allied Broadcast Div., Quincy, IL

In article <1992Jul22.112229.1@wharton.upenn.edu> rec.audio writes:
>I'm planning on purchasing a new receiver soon and I would like to get a
>few recommendations. I want a Dolby Pro-logic capable receiver, with amps
>for all five channels, as well as the requisite audio and video switching.
>I would also prefer to have a programmable remote.
>
>The receivers I have seen so far are as follows:
>Denon AVR-610
>Yamaha RXV-650?
>Sony STR-GX-67ES
>Technics SXR-710?
>Kenwood KRV-8030

You might hold out for the Denon AVR-810 (auto input balance on Pro-Logic).
That would be my first recommendation other than the Yamaha.

Sony looks nice but doesn't sound nice.  Same for Technics.  Neither
have auto-input balance on Pro-Logic and the Kenwood KRV-8030 has autoBalance
added as a patch, plus is last years model number(not that this year is 
going to be any better with the 8040.)  Not recommended either.

Denon or Yamaha would be my directions.

Robert.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: cslw@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: High Speed Duplicator wanted
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 00:28:32 GMT

I'm looking to buy a high speed cassette duplicator for copying 
lectures/talks.  Has anyone had any experience with any different
models/manufacturers.  Especially, does anyone have anything to say about
the Telex Copyette machines??

Thanks for any help

Lachlan
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From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Tape head cleaning.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:04:45 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Jul27.234800.26263@sbcs.sunysb.edu> niranjan@sbgrad10.cs.sunysb.edu (Niranjan) writes:
>I remember some post mentioning that Isopropyl Alcohol is recommended
>as a head cleaner. Just wanted to check if that was true, it is really
>safe etc. Also, should that be 100% Isopropanol is should I dilute it?

Undiluted alcohol, or freon, are fine for head cleaning.
Try not to use these too much on the rubber pinch rollers, however, as
they will eventually dry out and harden the rubber.


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From: igb@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Cyrus/Mission amps
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:38:10 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

>>>>> On 28 Jul 92 09:10:06 GMT, wgd@ukc.ac.uk (W.G.Day) said:
W.G.Day>  My friend with the Cyrus II and now the
W.G.Day>  PSX also has a pair of Monitor Audio 14s.  A good amp, a good pair of
W.G.Day>  speakers and a poor match

Interesting.  I have a old-style plastic Cyrus One with Monitor Audio
14s, and it seems to work OK.  However, I have found the 14s to be very
placement sensitive and need careful spiking and mass-loading (I have
fine sand in the bases, but I intend to replace it with sand and lead).
And if you examine the back of a pair of 14s (mine are very early ones)
you will find that the two set of speaker terminals are joined by very
flimsy wire.  After I'd bi-wired I noticed the nasty links I'd just
removed and realised I could have upgraded with two four-inch lengths of
cable!  I back-tested it by single-wiring into the distinct sets of
terminals.  It sounds different.

ian
From: bruce@cfa.harvard.edu (Bruce Sams)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: QUAD ESL63 :prices, woofers, SOUND!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:16:58 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

Howdy,

I'm looking to get a good pair of speakers to upgrade my system.  I'm
seriously considering the QUAD ESL63 professionals
as an alternative, particularly
since I may have the option to get them for about $2500 per pair.

Years ago the Quads were the best (but almost the ONLY) electrostats
on the market.  When I listen to them now, they still sound wonderful,
and have an absolutely stunning soundstage.  The imaging is really
terrific.  But, of course, they don't play very loud, and the deep
bass is missing.  Do any other new Electrostats improve on this
performance?

I haven't heard the speakers with the optional subwoofers, but general
experience with mixing the two speaker types leads me to guess it won't
sound all that good.  On the other hand, I listen largely to rock/pop music,
and would love to have a good deep bass.

Also, I am curious as to what the price of a pair of QUADs is in the
US.  I am in Germany now, although I will move back to the states in
about 1 1/2 years.  What about shipping these things?  Are there
any special problems aside from the size?  Are they unusually
prone to shipping damage?


My system, btw, is a NAD 5000 CD player, a passive preamp of very high
quality, and a pair of modified Dynaco MkVI power amps.  THese are
120 Watt mono tube amps using 4 8417 output tubes each.  I have replaced
all the caps with high quality pp or ps caps, and added individual
bias supply adjustments for each tube to keep crossover distortion
to a minimum.  A heavier duty power supply is next, but thats the
subject of another letter.


Thanks for whatever wisdom is available on these speakers.  I am interested
to hear all opinions of them, and also what they typically sell for in the US.
What other speakers in this price range I should investigate (both 
electrostats and normal), and what the subwoofers are like


Thanks,

Bruce Sams  

  sams@cvxastro.mpa.ipp-garching.mpg.de
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From: rup@piis10.joanneum.ac.at (Georg RUPPERT (DIBAG))
Subject: Re: record cleaners
Organization: Technical University of Graz, Austria
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 08:40:11 GMT

I have got a Nitty Gritty Basik (about $220, here in Austria double
price). With this machine everything is done by hand: applying the
cleaning fluid and rotating the disc for vacuuming. So if you want to
clean 50 records a day, this machine will not be suitable. The 
advantage is that you control the amount of cleaning fluid and the
applying _much_ better.
I am used to buying second hand records, the older the record, the 
worse its condition. Wash it and dirt, fingerprints are no problem
and you will notice a certain loss of surface noise.
But don't expect a _burning_ record to be perfectly quit after
cleaning.
With the company's cleaning fluid, records are less sensitive to
static electricity.

Georg.



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From: wgd@ukc.ac.uk (W.G.Day)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Cyrus/Mission amps
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:10:06 GMT
Reply-To: wgd@ukc.ac.uk (Warren Day)
Organization: Computing Lab, The University, Canterbury, Kent. CT2 7NF, UK

I wrote:
>> I find that the MF amps tend to throw an excessively lively sound at
>> you.  It turns everything slow into a dance version.

By this I meant listening to Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata for example.

In article <KIM.92Jul27150806@kim.Software.Mitel.COM> kim@Software.Mitel.COM
(Kim Letkeman) writes:

>I would say that the A1 is definitely more forward. I had a chance to
>compare my A1 against a Cyrus I in my home and came out prefering the
>more forward sound and deeper (or at least more pronounced) bass of
>the A1.

Comparing the prices I wouldn't expect the Cyrus I to stand up to the A1.

>>>Does anyone know about the Cyrus-1/Cyrus speaker combination ?

Of speaker matches in general.  My friend with the Cyrus II and now the
PSX also has a pair of Monitor Audio 14s.  A good amp, a good pair of
speakers and a poor match, unfortunately though I haven't heard it yet
with the PSX.  I have heard the 14s on an Intex which was a match that
worked.

>I had real problems

The ribbed piece of rubber on my balance control came off in one or two
pieces so I got out the super glue.

>Kim Letkeman	kim@Software.Mitel.COM

Is this a guys name too?

Warren
From: pauls@trsvax.tandy.com
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:32 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Op-amp upgrade for Denon 620
Message-ID: <287500045@trsvax>
Nf-ID: #R:medtron.medtronic.com:9716:trsvax:287500045:000:510
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!pauls    Jul 28 10:32:00 1992


THese are the industry standard "5218" op amps. They are primarily found in
RAIA phono stages, but some people use them everywhere.

In particular, your parts (and as an aside, all parts starting with BA..)
are from a company called ROHM. Specs are as follows:

1) Low noise (1.0 uVrms typ)
2) SR=3V/us GB=10Mhz  (pretty lame!)
3) low offset voltage (0.5mv)
4) very low distortion, .005% max stuff

The GOOD NEWS is that they are the "industry standard" dual op amp pinout
(the 4558 pinout).

Start POOGing!!
From: colby@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Colby Leider)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Amp info request
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:15:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, University of Texas at Austin


Is it possible to buy a good, powerful Dolby P-L receiver for around $300-$350?
If so, where?  What brand(s)??

Thanks in advance.

colby leider
colby@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: fragility of cassettes
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 02:37:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul18.035045.5228@cs.uoregon.edu> pdm@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu (peter d. mark) writes:

>i'm going to move from oregon to maine in late august and
>i need advice about shipping my cassette collection (about
>500).  i'm concerned that if i send them with the movers,
>they may inadvertently place them near my speakers, which
>i'm also shipping.

>1. how concerned should i be?  how much can speakers really
>   demagnetize cassettes if they're in close proximity?

If the cassettes are packed in something so they get no nearer
than about 1 foot from the speakers you should have no
problems.


>2. if the answers to 1. are "very" and "lots", what precautions
>   would you recommend?  i suppose i could ship the cassettes
>   separately via UPS.  (of course they could be placed near
>   something magnetic in transit by UPS as well, i suppose.
>   with the movers, the cassettes might be in their truck
>   for as long as 3-4 weeks though, and UPS is generally much
>   faster than that.)

However, you may have LOTs to worry about if the cassettes stay
in a truck that get's hot.

Subjecting magnetic tape to 150 degree temperature for ONE HOUR
does as much damage as being with 2000' feet of ground zero of a
nuclear explosion.   Lethal dose is considered to be about 500 rems,
and 150 degrees heat will do as much damage as 1000 times that
amount.

Magnets won't bother them if the field is from speakers within
a foot.  It'd have to be a BIG electric force to damage them
within a foot.  It'd take about 3 hours on a hot sunny day to
do the same amount.

Pack them inside something that won't conduct heat and that
will also keep it far enough from any magnetic material.

The main problem from both heat and magnetic fields that are
not strong enough to erase, is a increase in print-through.


Specs on the above came from a 3M book on care of magnetic tape
published a long time ago.

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