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From: jsd@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Steen Due)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Arnold in Superman V ???
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:41:14 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

In the Arnold collum in Musclemag International, it was claimed that Arnold was
going to play a part in Superman V. He is NOT going to replace the guy that
plays Superman (I keep forgetting his name - Reeves ot something like that) but
is going to play some kind of hero (surprise) that saves Supermans life. The
paycheck is supposed to be 6 million $.

Has anybody got some info/comments on this ?

/Jacob

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From: jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Plug Pulled on Spike Lee's "Malcolm X"
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:27:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr13.192707.18090
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Originator: jon@cyclone


In article <1992Apr11.152001.4184@panix.com>, tkelsey@panix.com (Tom Kelsey) writes:
> My feeling is that if he is 'going to the mat' for all this 'artistic'
> integrity he's nuts.  Its a film I feel no one wants to see any way..
> The 'whites' will stay away in DROVES...  

NOT THIS 'WHITE'!

I think you are mistaken in your belief (as stated above) that "no one
wants to see" it.  Lee's movies have been very popular with a wide,
varied audience ever since _Do The Right Thing_  even though Hollywood
hasn't seen fit to properly recognise his achievements.
-- 

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From: George.Harris@bbs.oit.unc.edu (George Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What makes good acting/directing/etc?
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:24:56 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1883@transfer.stratus.com> lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>
>This is highly debatable.  The other night, I caught a few minutes of
>Lawrence Olivier's Hamlet.  It was filmed in the '40s, and he earned an
>Academy Award for it.  The man was literally chewing the scenery.

	Literally?  Wow, that is a variant reading of Hamlet I have *got* to
see.  What was he chewing?  Furniture, walls?  Be specific.

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From: joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM (John O'Neil - SunExpress IR)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: T2 soundtrack
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:34:34 GMT
Reply-To: joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM
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is there a soundtrack for the movie T2?????

is it good?????
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From: garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson)
Subject: Strange places movies are filed (was Re: DUNE...A minor classic?) 
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:47:20 GMT

This sort of belongs on that other thread, but I think it's funny that Critics'
Choice Video classifies DUNE under "action" films.

-- 
Matt Garretson                       :-)                          garrem@rpi.edu
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From: kmoore@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kyle E Moore)
Subject: "Guitar" movies other than "Crossroads"?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:59:17 GMT

     Having stayed up past my bedtime for about the 11th time to watch the duel
at the end of "Crossroads" on cable last night, I was wondering...  Are there 
any other movies out there that feature some really GOOD guitar playing?
The only one that comes to mind right offhand is "A Soldier's Story"  Oh, and 
Stanley Jordan makes a brief appearance in "Blind Date", but I'm talking about 
any movie in which guitar playing (or a player) is the crux of the story.  
Let's see, for the sake of eliminating a lot of e-mail that will get instantly 
deleted, what else will I hear about?

    "Satisfaction" (Justine Bateman? Are you kidding me?)
    "The Light of Day" (Joan, maybe.  Michael J., Nope.  Same goes for "Back to
     the Future")
    "Spinal Tap" YES!! (But in a comic sense, not musically.  Gotta love the 
     nod to Page when Nigel plays his guitar with an entire violin, though)
    "Purple Rain"  Also not a bad suggestion, but that would largely depend on
     your opinion of Prince.

     Anyway, you get the picture.  I'm talking "Guitar" movie the way "The 
Cannonball Run" could be called a "car" movie.  No flames or wise-asses, 
please, just good honest responses.  And yes, thank you, I've seen "KISS Meets
the Phantom of the Park."

     I suppose this could have been posted to a "guitar" newsgroup, but I read
this one more often.  Any other suggestions?  Please E-Mail, as I read my mail
more often than I do the groups.  Start plectrum-ing those brains, folks.
Requests for lists will be responded to.


     Thank you kindly,

     K-Mo
     (kmoore@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)

     "Pothole:  A big lack of something in the road"
          B.S. Bare
From: jameskau@aludra.usc.edu (James Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Multiple Academy Award Nominations
Date: 11 Apr 1992 23:43:11 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Apr10.230324.18584@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lhb6v@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Laura Hayes Burchard) writes:
>I had a thought the other day - what happens if someone/something
>gets enough votes to be nominated twice in a category?  Does he 
>compete against himself, or does just the one with the highest
>number of votes go on the ballot?  Has it ever happened in the major
>categories?  
>
>Laura
>Address alias changed -- good addresses are now lhb4v@virginia.edu and
>lhb6v@faraday.clas.virginia.edu


It happens a lot in the song categories (last year's three nominations for
Beauty and the Beast).  I don't think that any acting category had on person
up twice.  But often the same person is up twice in categories like Editing
or Makeup or the like.
James Kaufman
jameskau@aludra.usc.edu
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: "THUNDERHEART"
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:54:37 GMT
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Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr14.133730.23177@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, ph9jba@nestor.uucp (82245-anglum) writes:
[... comments in reference to Leeper's review of Thunderheart ...]

>  Next time have an Oglala Lakota review the movie.
> 
> Jeannine Crowfoot -- Hunkpapa Lakota

I assume you mean in addition to a "general" reviewer.  The reference
by which a movie is reviewed should obviously be related to the
intended purpose of the movie.  If a movie were to be used as historical
reference material, then a person familiar with the subject matter
should review it.  Ideally, more than one person with different points
of view regarding the movie.  Sometimes a movie will be introduced for
the more common purpose of appealing to the most people and to make
the most money so that the producers of the movie can make, obviously,
more movies.  Sometimes they may even get enough clout to make their
"ideal" "non-commercial" movie.

Other movies may be made with the primary purpose of making a political
statement.  Sometimes a movie in the "commercial" category will later
be recognized as fulfilling another purpose well.  Sometimes not.  It
is not always possible to have a reviewer who is an expert on any
particular facet of the subject matter of a movie.  In that case it's
important to note from what vantage point the review is made.  I would
say that an expert on the factual aspects of a movie would give me more
valuable information regarding just that, but that does not make me value
their review more regarding aspects in which they are not expert.
(e. g., "The acting, direction, photography and characterizations were
terrible.  It was historically accurate.  Therefore it was a 'good'
movie."  I think most folks wouldn't appreciate a review like that.)

As I read Leeper's review, I am assuming the "general" review case.
Although his reviews usually have much more information than absolutely
necessary, I don't place the burden on him to analyze historical
aspects of the films every time.  I'd much rather leave that to
folks specializing in the particular aspect of the film.  In this
case that may be, but not necessarily, a Lakota.  Of course, although
I personally prefer a movie to be historically accurate, I'd say
the vast majority of moviegoers don't require this.  So it's
probably a good idea for experts in various areas to offer their
reviews in addition to, but not instead of, the general reviews.

GMS
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Scenes in ads, but not in film (was Re: Wayne's World Question)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:59:09 GMT


Lessee...Anyone remember "The Devil and Max Devlin," with Bill Cosby?
I can remember that, in the commercials, there's a scene in which Max
realizes he's in Hell, and he moans, "Oh, my God," and the Devil 
(Cosby) responds with, "I'd rather you didn't use that word."  Or
something like that; it was a long time ago.

Anyhow, that witty repartee was never in the actual film.  I was maybe
eight years old at the time, and felt horribly cheated.  :)

                                            --Steve Stelter
                                             sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: wood@kong.siemens.com (Jim Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Multiple Academy Award Nominations
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:51:14 GMT

jameskau@aludra.usc.edu (James Kaufman) writes:

>In article <1992Apr10.230324.18584@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lhb6v@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Laura Hayes Burchard) writes:
>>I had a thought the other day - what happens if someone/something
>>gets enough votes to be nominated twice in a category?  Does he 
>>compete against himself, or does just the one with the highest
>>number of votes go on the ballot?  Has it ever happened in the major
>>categories?  
>>
>>Laura
>>Address alias changed -- good addresses are now lhb4v@virginia.edu and
>>lhb6v@faraday.clas.virginia.edu

>It happens a lot in the song categories (last year's three nominations for
>Beauty and the Beast).  I don't think that any acting category had on person
>up twice.  But often the same person is up twice in categories like Editing
>or Makeup or the like.

From the little I know, the rules allow multiple nominations in any but
the acting and directing (?) categories.  In the acting category, I suppose
the role which garners the most votes for an actor (with multiple
possibilities) gets the Oscar nomination.

Plenty of people have been eligible for more than one nomination in the
same category.  In this year alone, these 5 nominees were seriously
eligible in more than one film.  The first of the named films is the
one each actor was nominated for:

lead actress:
  Jodie Foster - "The Silence of the Lambs" and "Little Man Tate"
lead actor:
  Nick Nolte - "The Prince of Tides" and "Cape Fear"
  Robin Williams - "The Fisher King" and "Hook"
supporting actor:
  Harvey Keitel - "Bugsy" and "Thelma & Louise"
supporting actress:
  Kate Nelligan - "The Prince of Tides" and "Frankie & Johnny"

Multiple nominations in *different* categories is another matter, and
an actor may have leading and supporting nominations in the same year.
These actors have done just that with these leading and supporting roles:

Teresa Wright - "The Pride of the Yankees" and "Mrs. Miniver" (1942)
Barry Fitzgerald - "Going My Way" and "Going My Way" (1944)
Jessica Lange - "Frances" and "Tootsie" (1982)
Sigourney Weaver - "Gorillas in the Mist" and "Working Girl" (1988)

Barry Fitzgerald was a fluke.  Enough people voted to nominate him
for "Going My Way" in the leading category, and enough people voted for
him also in the supporting category, so he got *both* nominations.  He
won the supporting one.  I believe this caused a rules change ... :-)

Jim Wood [wood@siemens.siemens.com] (609) 734-3643
  "Even if complaints about man-bashing in this film were 99% true, it still
   wouldn't make up for the years of portraying women as bimbos in movies."
     - Geena Davis, about "Thelma & Louise"
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From: sws8n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Stefan William Sittig)
Subject: Re: Musicals (Re: NEWSIES)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:10:26 GMT

In article <2033@ra.nrl.navy.mil> ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:
>
>> Article <122475@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
>
>> I read in today's paper that this movie had a terrible opening weekend.
>> I had been hoping it would turn out to be both a critical and a
>> commericial success, because I too love musicals and wish they'd make
>> some good ones nowadays.
>
>
>Well they have an unused musical play which would make a great musical
>movie - Man of La Mancha.
>
>Anybody know if there has ever been a movie or televised tape (maybe PBS?)
>of the great musical?  To Dream the Impossible Dream.....
>
>The Best I have been able to find was a tape of a broadway play.
>-- 
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>NRL Code 5800, 4555 Overlook Ave.; Washington, DC 20375   (202) 767-2046
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YES!!!  Unfortuantely for us all, Joshua Logan directed a movie version 
of MAN OF LA MANCHA, starring...Peter O'Toole and Sophia Loren.  AARRRGGH!
	The beautiful score is totally lost in the larynxs of O'Toole and
Loren.  I think acting wise they are well cast, but singing...UGGHH!  What
was Logan thinking?  Obviously he wasn't!!
					-Stefan

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From: joe@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Joe Nappa)
Subject: Re: `Hannibal' movies
Organization: Design Computing Unit, The University of Sydney
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:51:50 GMT

>	As far as I know the only other movie he has appeared in is
>Manhunter.  He is not played by Hopkins though.  Manhunter was based on
>the book that was a prequel to the book Silence of the Lambs, called
>Red Dragon.  Manhunter was also a prequel to SOL, directed by Micheal Mann
>(Miami Vice, Band of the Hand, Etc) but went basically unnoticed.
>Don't bother watching it if you are only interested in Lecter as he's screen
>time is about 2 minutes total...(An FBI type goes to his cell to ask for
>information about a serial killer, sound familiar?)  Of course this is
>all confused even more by the fact that NBC, when SOL became a hit, 
>rereleased Manhunter as "Red Dragon: The Curse of Hannibal Lecter" even
>though it had nearly nothing to do with him.

Saw "manhunter" last night on Sydney TV. It was interesting to see
a Thomas Harris story adapted in slightly different way. Michael
Mann has a style -- bright colours, contemporary music sound-track
(jarringly loud, sometimes inappropiate but always toe-tapping),
bright lighting. It was interesting to see that he also gave
himself a credit as a cameraman -- has any other director had such
a dual role? Whereas Demme and his cinematographer went for low
lighting and subdued/wintery colours Mann brought out his Miami
Vice colour chart and went to town: his Lecter (inexplicably
spelt Lecktor in the credits and shown newspaper headlines) wore
hospital white clothing and lived in a white-walled, white-barred
cell. There was a reasonable amount of suspense. Harris' decision
to replace Will Graham with a female raw recruit was inspired:
you just don't feel as sympathetic to FBI man Will Graham as you
do to Clarice Starling. SotL is the "better" movie only because
of the acting talents of Foster and Hopkins. Mann's and Demme's
direction were equally journeyman-like; they just had different
views on how to translate the imagery to the screen. Mann made
less use of Lecter: perhaps he thought that, confined as he was,
he was just too static for the screen, relying too much on 
dialogue.
What do you think?

Joe
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From: jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Remains of the Day
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:44:17 GMT
Organization: University of Joensuu

rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su) writes:
>	Read it this morning that Columbia is casting 
>	Anthony Hopkins and Anjelica Huston in the film
>	version of `The Remains of the Day' on a script
>	adopted from the novel by Harol Pinter and produced
>	by Mike Nichols.  It didn't say who is going to
>	be the director.

ME!ME!MEEEEEE!!!!! May I?

*falls down laughing*

Juice
From: spencer@stone.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Sharon Stone on SNL
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:10:04 GMT
Organization: Princeton Univ. Class of '94
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <1992Apr15.230226.12745@PacBell.COM> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
>> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>>
>>Yeah, just six or so protestors trying to make their point - That
>>groups which use ACT-UP type tactics are real assholes.  It worked, too.
>
>Then what tactics would you suggest they use to make
>their larger point -- about Hollywood's mistreatment
>of gay people and women?  Asking nicely doesn't seem
>to have had any effect...

However good the cause, I don't think the tactics used are in any way
justified... had they demonstrated at the entrance (as I'm sure they
did), that's ok.  Demonstrating in front of movie theaters is fine too,
so long as people are not physically prevented from purchasing tickets
or denied access to the theater.

After all, I think the last thing the gay/lesbian movement needs is to
sink to the level of groups like Operation Rescue.
----------
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Clockwork Orange (Princeton Ultimate) (when I bother to show up for practice)
Be excellent to each other and party on.
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From: fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro)
Subject: Re: Last month's quiz answers..
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:30:25 GMT

90700449@dcu.ie (Gary Stephens) writes:
> 8. Let justice be done...
>    OR THE HEAVENS FALL (JFK)

I thought this was "*though* the heavens fall"?  Y'know, as in, "Let the
truth be known, even if the heavens fall"?
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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Taxi Driver
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:44:32 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <35124@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> seltzer@ics.enet.dec.com (Richard Seltzer) writes:

>In recently watching Taxi Driver on videotape, I was struck by the fact that 
>the treatment felt dated.  In retrospect, it seems that a number of the best 
>movies from the late 60s and early 70s had indeterminate endings, 
>where the main character winds up in approximately the same kind of position 
>at the end as at the beginning.  It seems that those same movies if done today 
>would end quite differently, and decisively.

[interesting discussion deleted]

You said some thought-provoking things, Richard, but there's some
overstatement there, I think.  Or more accurately, one needs to consider
how the "indeterminate" endings you describe were actually received by
audiences.

Taxi Driver was not a hugely popular audience success, was it?  It did
ok, and was highly regarded in critical and "intellectual" (for lack of
a better word) circles.  But I remember plenty of people at the time who
saw it when they wanted to go out to the movies, and their simple
reaction was "it stunk."  Scorsese's ending (or maybe his whole
creation) didn't work for them.

As for The Graduate, I remember seeing it when it was brand new.  (I was
just the age it was aimed at, and I didn't like it at all.  It looks
better to me now.)  I saw it a couple times, to make sure I wasn't
missing anything, and each time I saw it with a group of friends, in a
crowded college-town movie theater.  The folks who really *loved* the
movie didn't notice the indeterminate ending!  Really!  They cheered
Benjamin and Elaine getting away, and they regarded the painful final
few minutes (as they realize they don't know each other, and have
nothing to discuss or to do with their lives) as nonexistent end-title
stuff.  Those who were seeing it for the second or third time were
already reaching for their coats or standing up, so they wouldn't have
to look at the last bit.  On occasion over the years, I've asked a
diehard Graduate fan to tell me about the last scene of the movie.  They
never even remember that the last scene (on the bus) is there.

So I'm not so sure about your dichotomy of "endings then and now."
Audiences, it seems, always have preferred something clean and decisive,
and if it isn't there they'll imagine it is anyway.

Jon Alan Conrad
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From: rthomson@mesa.dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson)
Subject: Re: Who starred in 'Rabid'?
Reply-To: rthomson@dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson)
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 04:37:18 GMT

In article <12248@tamsun.tamu.edu>
	rlm7638@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jack McKinney) writes:
>
>     A friend of mine is trying to remember the name of the star of a
>movie she saw (a very bad one she also comments) called 'Rabid'.

Rabid is a David Cronenberg film (his second film, I believe); he
later went on to make the disgustingly great remake of The Fly, among
other things.

>She believes she has done some X-rated movies as well.

This is an understatement!  The woman is none other than the queen of
porn, Marilyn Chambers.

						-- Rich
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From: Ron_O'Hara@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Ron O'Hara)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: hammer
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:20:08 PST
Organization: Tunnel Vision BBS!

Anyone into watching the British horror movies produced by the famous
Hammer studios? I'm curious to know all the Frankenstein titles.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.991
From: ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Koyaanis-/Powaqqatsi Book?
Date: 9 Apr 1992 09:58:08 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Interzone Office
Reply-To: ncramer@labs-n.bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


Is there a book, major article, etc. on Godfrey Reggio and the making of
"Koyaanisqatsi" and/or "Powaqqatsi"?

Email preferred.  I'll Summarize if there's interest.

Thanks
Nichael
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