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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Keywords: Ala/Ark
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:32:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvvFqJ.DDC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:

>Do you guys get the impression Brian is a Purdue fan?

	Brian a Purdue fan?  He goes to Wisconsin... :)

	Jazzy J
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From: chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: In Defense of the Dome
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:30:42 GMT




First, the Dean Dome is an excellent basketball facility.  Certainly
one of the finest collegiate facilities in the country.  And when there's
a good game, the place does get worked into a frenzy.

As far as being told to "be quiet", it's never happened to me from a student.
Some bozo older folks sitting in the student section have asked for me
to sit, but it was the student section, so they had to live with it.

My opinion of the "wine and cheese" fatcats is already a matter of public
record.  If the bozos who coughed up mucho $$$ for tickets can't get up
and yell during games, they should give the tickets to folks who will.

The student section, on the other hand, is very loud.  It is amazing to
listen to the different levels of noise generated at different points of
the Dome.  The quarter near the band where the lower level student seats
are (about 2,000) is very loud most of the game.  Any noise made by those
in the upper sections tends to get lost in the large open area above the
court.

In order of loudness, for those State fans who might care, is this:

1. Duke
2. State
3. Wake/UVa

It's much louder during the Duke game.  The place stays about as loud as
a jet for nearly the entire game.  My ears ring afterwards.  If only every
game were like that.

Actually, some of the deadest crowds I've heard were for State games.  The
second of the 1990-91 back-to-back games had the decibel level of a 
funeral.

I will warn the State fans now that if y'all get a nice, new arena, you'd
better be ready to fight for seats.  Your athletic director was on the
radio a couple of weeks back, explaining how priority seating at basketball
would help pay for the construction cost of the new facility and support other
sports programs.  Money talks, boys.

Ideally, the Dome should have had one half of the lower seating as bleachers
for students.  However, this was one of the first large bball facilities
built, and no one knew really what to expect (Iowa had the same problem).
I hope that other schools, such as State, Tech, and UVa (when they get
around to razing the atrocious UHaul), can learn from the suffering of
the Carolina students.


Basically, I ask that you not judge the enthusiasm of the students or of
the average supporter of Carolina by the actions of the folks who footed
the bill to pay for the place.

And it's still true that it's hard to win a game at Carolina, although
it's not nearly as difficult as it was when Carmichael was in use (now
that was a hard place to play!).






Curtis Hill
star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: scooter@antarctica.earth.nwu.edu (Scott Relyea)
Subject: Re: NCAA Magazine predictions
Summary: 'Cats and no respect 
Organization: Geological Sciences Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:21:43 GMT

In article <92280.161757MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu> Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>>Big Ten (Terry Boers, Chicago Sun-Times):
>>>1. Indiana
>>>2. Michigan
>>>3. Michigan St.
>>>4. Iowa
>>>5. Illinois
>>>6. Purdue
>>>7. Ohio St.
>>>8. Minnesota
>>>9. Wisconsin
>>>10. Northwestern
>>>11. Penn St.

Northwestern in 10th???  Penn St. in 11th??? Who came up with this???
The Wildcats never get ANY respect, and this year's team, even without
Todd Leslie, is much more experienced, cohesive and returns the two
academic ineligibles from last year, a formidable team by NU standards.
Not to say they'll challenge the upper tier of the Bigger Ten this year,
but they will NOT finish so close to the cellar - they have more talent
than either Wisconsin or Minnesota...Potential is rarely reached by
the 
'Cats on the hoops court, but the potential exists, don't sell them so
short - just look at the football team, rated nearly last in the country
for much of the season, then CRUSHING Purdue...
Anyway, just watch out for the Wildcats Big Ten..

And give us just a little respect once in a while!

Scoot


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From: atchison@harp.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: TOSU vs UC (OSU Fans Plse Read)
Keywords: chickens?
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:32:38 GMT
Distribution: rec.sports.basketball.college
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

In article <Bvs8nx.B5t@ucunix.san.uc.edu> mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore) writes:
>TOSU fans:
> Is there any talk in Columbus about a possible UC - OSU home and home series?
>I know that there is a lot of interest down here, but OSU has resisted coming
>to Cincinnati to play. Last year UC tried to "bribe" OSU into a home and home
>series by offering extra tickets to OSU for the NCCA regional game in 
>Cincinnati (where OSU played) but the offer was rejected, and the NCAA made
>UC pay a $25,000 dollar fine after the OSU A.D. turned them in.. I thought
>it was kinda funny, but apparently OSU did not... A lot of people think that UC
>(UCINN!!?) has the best team in Ohio, and would like the chance to prove it.

While it would admittedly make for a great rivalry for the fans (at least with
the 2 programs in their current states), I think that it's highly unlikely 
that Ayers and company would see it as a good move.  The Big 10 1/2 already
provides a greuling 18 game stretch, and a yearly non-conference battle would
be pretty tough.  

Why not prove you're the best team in the Midwest, and join the Big, Bigger,
Biggest 10?	;^)

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Frieder, on a cold streak, finally gets a break
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:29:20 GMT


     Recruit Jay Knollmiller from Tempe walked into
ASU Coach Bill Frieder's office on Sunday and
announced:  "Coach, I've decided to attend Arizona...
<pause>   State University."  Wild Bill, after
swallowing his heart, shook the young man's hand.

     Knollmiller, widely considered the best prep
recruit in Arizona this year and one of the best in
the West, is 6'10'' tall and averaged 18 points,
12 rebounds, and 8 blocked shots per game last
season.  He should look cute standing under the
basket next to Mario Bennett late next Fall.

     Knollmiller had narrowed his choices to ASU,
Arizona, and UCLA.  Asked how he finally arrived at
a decision, he replied: "Well, when push came to
shove, I decided that Arizona and UCLA could go
suck on a DDD."

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Organization: ^$
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:53:57 GMT

In article <BvtrvM.32u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>>	There is currently a thread in rec.sport.football.college which asks 
>>the question:  What is the biggest rivalry?  I'd like to address this question
>>to college basketball.  
>
>	I think that right now, those Duke/UNC/NCState games are big time
>	rivalries.  Some others as of late are Georgetown/Syracuse,
>	Syracuse/Pitt.  Kentucky vs. Indiana has been a well known
>	rivalry in college basketball for a long time.  Kentucky vs. LSU
>	has been a big rivalry as well.                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  

    What is this series record during the Dale Brown era? Regular season vs.
   post-season?

>       U might want to define rivalries
>	within conferences, and out of conference rivalries (where UK vs
>	IU would fit in).
>
>	Jazzy J
>
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From: ejk@dlogics.com (Rico Suave)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Organization: Datalogics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:43:30 GMT
Keywords: Ala/Ark

rcbaker@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Bob Baker) writes:

>[much stuffy talk of the IU-Purdue rivalry deleted]

Stuffy to you, maybe.

>While the fact that the IU-Purdue game has got to be one of the
>biggest rivalries in college hoop (bigger than Oberlin - Wooster!),
>I've never seen more intensity than the NC State-UNC matchup last
>year.

>After beating the highly regarded Tar Heels in Reynolds, the
>State fans went BEZERK in the neighborhoods surrounding the
>university, including my front porch (I was living behind the
>McDonald's on Hillsborough at the time).  Except for the '87
>championship year, I can't remember the fans of my beloved Hoosiers
>losing it in quite the manner that the Wolfpack gang did.

During the '89-'90 season, the first time the Boilers played the Hoosiers
which was at Bloomington, the boilers erased a 29-point deficit en-route
to a last-second victory, which prompted the campus to go nuts, including
near riots at Cary-quad, resulting in an unprecedented 2nd running (in one
semester) of the Nude Olympics, and several Hundred students crowding
the airport when the Team plane arrived at some ungodly hour of the morning.
OK maybe its not as "wild" as those detriot folks who drive cars through
crowds of people when they win, but it was pretty crazy that night.


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From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Griffith Cancels OSU Visit
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:46:50 GMT
	<1992Oct14.135724.7223@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Oct14.135724.7223@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
}} 
}} >"Wisconsin was nice and I had a nice time," Griffith said.  "They showed
}} >me a good time.  One of the good points was the School of Business and I
}} >want to major in business.  Also they're a rebuilding team and that's 
}} >another strong point. 
}} >
}} >"I haven't made my decision yet.  All of them stand in the same place
}} >still.  I'm going to take all of my visits and narrow it down to my final
}} >two.  I don't know who those are going to be right now."

}} It sounds to me like it is down two his final two choices.  I imagine the
}} key here will be his Purdue visit.

Isn't the Krannert School of Management reasonably highly regarded
(for a public institution)?  How good is Wisconsin's school?

I'm hoping that the Krannert School, along with his friendship with
Glenn Robinson will get Rashard here, because that makes it more
likely that Robinson will stay around for his senior season.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
                    ect. is meaningless; etc. == et cetera

                      Beef:  Real food for a dead planet.
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From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Originator: jagreath@c00090-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Ala/Ark
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:55:11 GMT


In article <Bvvn8B.H9J@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, rcbaker@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Bob Baker) writes:

|>While the fact that the IU-Purdue game has got to be one of the
|>biggest rivalries in college hoop (bigger than Oberlin - Wooster!),
|>I've never seen more intensity than the NC State-UNC matchup last
|>year.

|>After beating the highly regarded Tar Heels in Reynolds, the
|>State fans went BEZERK in the neighborhoods surrounding the
|>university, including my front porch (I was living behind the
|>McDonald's on Hillsborough at the time).  Except for the '87
|>championship year, I can't remember the fans of my beloved Hoosiers
|>losing it in quite the manner that the Wolfpack gang did.

|>DISCLAIMER:
|>I DESPISE NC State.  I personally feel that the only reason the fans
|>exploded the way they did is that they attend a cultural wasteland of
|>a university where there is NOTHING else to do but watch hoops and
|>read the News and Observer.  So, I'm not on their side...I'm merely
|>reporting what I saw.

|>Awaiting hate mail,
|>Bob

Hmm, I kinda like it here in Raleigh.  It's a pleasant environment where the
students feel a real bond with their school.  As for a cultural wasteland,
try looking around Raleigh before you condemn it.  And as for Indiana, well,
*there's* a cultural Mecca for the United States.  OK, maybe for basketball, but
face it, there isn't much else *to* do in Indiana.  And as for condemning my 
school, get a life.  You wouldn't know a good thing if it walked up to you and
hit you over the head.
 
|>-- 
|>         //////////////////////////////////////
|>         / Bob Baker, struggling undergrad..../
|>        / rcbaker@silver.ucs.indiana.edu     /
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From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: NBA Fantasy League
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:54:46 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt)
Organization: MINE Mindless Idiot Nonothings Everywhere

CROSSPOST

I am starting a fantasy league over the internet called RUBL.
Real Usenet Basketball League.

All those interested in joining or who want more info, just
e-mail me.

This league uses NBA players and lasts the entire season so
sign up only if you are seriously interested.

RUBL commish,

Jon
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Jon Blixt                  I must not fear, Fear is the mind-killer, Fear is 
Control Data               the little-death that bring total obliteration,  I
Minnepolis, MN             will face my fear,  I will permit it to pass over
jblixt@neon.aqeng.cdc.com  me and through me, And when it has gone past I will
                           turn the inner eye to see its path, Where the fear
                           has gone there will be nothing,  Only I will remain.
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From: arent@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (William J. Arent)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Rollie eats pasta in Vegas now.
Keywords: Big West, UNLV
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:01:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Any thought on how Rollie will do at UNLV?  He's one of 
the best if not the best game-day coaches in college bball.
took a relatively untalented team and won often in the Big East.

Now HE has the talent (relatively speaking again) in the Big West.
What's he going to do?  Run like the old Rebels, defend like the
old Cats, or perhaps both?   My guess is that he'll let the team
play the way it wants to play, which is to run non-stop, much like
a street ball game (except faster).  

What are there chances of winning the Big West (scouting report
of other teams)?

- Will
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Originator: jagreath@c00061-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Ala/Ark
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:53:09 GMT


In article <1992Oct14.181126.12113@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

(some derogatory stuff about NC State and Raleigh deleted)

>Hmm, I kinda like it here in Raleigh.  It's a pleasant environment where the
>students feel a real bond with their school.  As for a cultural wasteland,
>try looking around Raleigh before you condemn it.  And as for Indiana, well,
>*there's* a cultural Mecca for the United States.  OK, maybe for basketball, but
>face it, there isn't much else *to* do in Indiana.  And as for condemning my 
>school, get a life.  You wouldn't know a good thing if it walked up to you and
>hit you over the head.

|>Hey, I know you fight fire with fire (I always do), but don't slam on all
|>of Indiana just because of some &*^*&^$*hole from IU.  There are a few
|>things one can do in Indiana other than basketball, but probably not as
|>many as you can in North Carolina.  But this guy bashed on Raleigh, so if
|>you want to be true to form, you should bash on Bloomington.

Don't know a lot about Bloomington, it never caught my eye for College like
North Carolina did. :)

|>-- 
|>
|>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: NCAA Magazine predictions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:26:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.142525.29958@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>In article <92280.161757MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu> Spiro the Spiny Goldfish  
><MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>> I can't believe Penn State is at the absolute basement here!
>
>Two Words:
>Sun Times.
>
>Can you say Sun Times, children?  Not the paper for those in
>Chicago who read.

	You could have said two other words as well:  Terry Boers.
	What a goof...

	I understand that the S-T has a larger circulation in Cook
	County proper than the mighty Tribune...

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Organization: UCLA Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 09:54:27 GMT

In article <matthew.719111523@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>
>'Course I don't see what's wrong will celebrating whatever achievements 
>your team may have made on the court, be they NCAA titles, NIT 
>semi-finalist, or highest percentage of graduated players.  
>People with the attitude that you can only hang banners for coming 
>in first will be unhappy a fair amount of the time.
>
>Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU

Oh for crying out loud...  Dr. Moo-Moo, emanate pop psychologist, to
the rescue...

Nobody can tell that Matthew's from North Carolina with that sneaky
little defense of Deano's banner hyperinflation, can they?

I'm sorry, but any pathetic little excuse for a school that needs to
boost its collective undernourished egos by hanging banners to loudly
proclaim their non-accomplishments(*) to the world is a sad school indeed.

And if that is the only way they can be "happy", then they truly need
to see Dr. Moo-Moo.

And that's a FACT.

- Trent Lange

(*) NIT banners, such as UCLA's, of course, represent true accomplishments,
    because they are also NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP (tm) banners.

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From: micss@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Stephen Mickio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: VALAVNO II?????(BOB)
Keywords: could be?
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:18:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University


I just read that Bob Valvano was named head coach at St. Mary's
(Maryland) last week.  Is this the "bro" of Jimmy Veeeeeeeeee???

The article said that he has been head coach at St. Francis College
(NY) and at Kutztown and at Catholic.  No word on his record
for his 15 years.  Any ideas??  Does anyone think he could maybe
continue and succeed like Jimmy did??

Any thoughts will be welcomed.  if he is the "bro" of JV, then
are there any other brothers coaching in the NCAA??

Scott:)
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