From: dgraham@bmers30.bnr.ca (Douglas Graham)
Subject: Re: *TRUE* Christians
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 07:28:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.204742.12128@bsu-ucs> 00brwoodson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.054551.22002@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, dgraham@bmers30.bnr.ca (Douglas Graham) writes:
>> Er, I did read.  And no, not much of what you wrote made a hell of a lot
>> of sense to me, but that could be because I wasn't following the thread
>> too closely.  Presumably though, the above statement of yours stands on
>> its own merits.  I'm just wondering why you think the average Joe (ie.
>> not a judge) has no right to judge others.  Personally, I think that's
>> one those Christian memes, and a ridiculous one at that.  I judge others
>> all the time.  So do Christians; in fact, they seem to some of the most
>> judgemental folks around.  It's just that I'm not big on hypocrisy
>> or fuzzy thinking.  That doesn't mean that I wouldn't use this line as a
>> befuddling tactic in a debate with a Christian, but that seems only fair
>> to me since it is they who claim to adhere to the rule, not I.
>
>how would you like it if I judged you by just what I know about you now,
>throwing in alot of my own assumtions of course, and came up with a picture of
>you that wasn't you at all.  How would you feel about that.

To tell you the truth, I probably wouldn't give much of a damn.  But
I would prefer that you judge me based on what you know about me, without
making up a lot of stuff on your own.  If you don't have enough information,
then you're out of luck.  But let's say that you read an article of mine
where I was advocating beating up little old ladies and stealing their
purses for money to play video games.  I would expect you to judge me
as a poor downtrodden victim of society, and then show me the sympathy I
deserve.

>I wouldn't like it.

On the other hand, if that gorgeous, intelligent, and compassionate atheist
babe who lives just down the street from you judged you to be a Really
Cool Guy, you'd probably like it quite a bit.  At least until you found
out that she believes that there are invisible pink unicorns prancing
about in her walls.  Can't have everything I guess.

>And as for those Christians who judge people, yea, I've ran into a few of
>those and  all I can say is that they're hypocrites.  I don't waste my time
>with them because they get on my nerves.

You wouldn't be judging these people would you?

>i don't need brother so-n-so telling
>me how to live.  That's what I was trying to say above. No one should judge
>others unless they've spent some time in law school and have Your Honor as
>their first name.

As far as I know, the U.S. is the only English speaking country which has
forgotten that the word "honour" has a 'u' in it.  If we use your guideline,
what will the rest of us do?
--
Should the human race not be extinguished by a nuclear war, it will degenerate
into a flock of stupid, dumb creatures under the tyranny of dictators who rule
them with the help of machines and electronic computers.  This is no prophecy,
just a nightmare.  -- Max Born.   **** dgraham@bnr.ca    My own opinions. ****