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From: roop@cc.swarthmore.edu (Karen Roop)
Subject: Dog Biscuit Recipe
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing Center
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:53:54 GMT

This is a recipe that Marget Johnson posted on the board last year.  I
haven't tried it yet so I can't comment on how tastey they are!!!


A Dog Biscuit Recipe:

    2 cups whole wheat flour
     1 cup corn meal
     2/3 cup Brewer's yeast
     2 teaspoons garlic powder
     1/2 teaspoon salt
     2 egg yolks
     3-4 beef or chicken bouillon cubes dissolved in 1 1/2 cups boiling
water

Mix well and roll out 1/2 of dough to 3/8 inch thickness. Cut into desired
shapes. Bake at 375 degrees F for 20 minutes on an ungreased cookie sheet.
Turn off oven but leave biscuits in oven until crunchy. Makes about 1
pound.

NOTE: If you don't have any Brewer's yeast, leave it out. The dogs will
never
notice.

For a REAL taste treat, chop 1/2 lb raw liver in a blender or food
processor
until soupy. Add to mixture above. Unless you love the smell of cooking
liver,
leave the kitchen while the biscuits are baking. Also, clean the blender
THOROUGHLY with vinegar and water, or your Margaritas will be real
show-stoppers.
..............................................................................
Marget Johnson, Windwagon Newfs


Enjoy,

Karen
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jparker@boi.hp.com (Contract Richard H.)
Subject: Dogs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:13:41 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Have no idea if this will get to you.  Go for a labrador.  Malamutes are
a little to large and can be nasty for kids.  Siberian husky too.  Lab's
are great mine is 11.5 yrs old and has been throughout her life, exactly
what you seek.  (p.s. pick a smart one!, look at the mother first for signs
of intelligence).

j.
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: strange behavior
Date: 13 Dec 1992 05:26:18 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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: I'm curious as to why he wouldn't go in it when I moved it.
: It's not like I moved it into another room.  I assume this
: means that my furniture can never be moved or if it is it
: has to be moved around his crate.

: Any guesses from anyone on this.

Maybe his herding instinct came out because the crate wasn't where 
it was supposed to be?

You can probably move it if you do it gradually.  

Karen
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Name the Puppy Contest...)
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:10:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Dec11.131224.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>In article <1ga5jgINN5uo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gai
>> In a previous article, Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) says:
>>>A couple names I've been thinking of have been Milton and Chaucer (Canterbury
>>>Tails? :) ) I need both a call name and a registered name that ties in
>>>somehow. Any ideas?
>> 
>> OK, I am asking for forgiveness up front but it just begs to be said that 
>> Schnauzer (with no tail) begs to be registered as Canturbury TAILLESS.  (ha
>> ha ha)
>> 
>> But seriously, when you said Milton and Chaucer, I immediately thought of
>> Paradise Lost.  You could call him Dice.  Beowulf is also good as a
>> registered name, call name Wolfie.
>

"Wolfie"  my collie says He'd share his name.  (I also know of
an ILP collie that just got his CD who is also named Beowulf).
Another neat thing to do would be to name him Beowulf and call
him "Jeff" for a call name. (Jeff ?  I can't remember the last
name was one of the translators for the origional Old English
version of Beowulf.)  You may also want to use Grendel (if
your pup is a holy terror ;) ).  There is also Several other
names in the story of Beowulf that are good.  Scheld Schaffing (SP?!)
Wulf (one of the other hero's), etc.

Another old piece of literature is Sir Gwain and the Green Knight.
There are some good names in that one also.

There is also, Thor, Woden, Thursa (female name) for Norse legends.

>"Beowulf" is good (says the owner of Tristan!) but I prefer "Beowoof"! 
>Literary names that popped into my feeble, end-of-the-semester-with-a-
>zillion-things-to-grade mind were "Dickens" (you could register him as
>"Oliver Twist" or something); "Faust" (by Christopher Marlowe - actually
>"Dr. Faustus).  And then there's Falstaff from Shakespeare, though that
>one still makes me think of beer!  There's "Edgar" after Edgar Allan
>Poe, though I don't know if any of his stories make good registered
>names!  ("The Tell-Tale Heart"?  "The Premature Burial"?  Yuck!

Another source of good names can be found in works by Johnathan Swift.
You may also look in works by R. Kipling, and Herman Melville.
OR even David Copperfield.  

Hope these help!

------------
Marla Belzowski   saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Mauii Nikki Belzowski CD CGC TDI CERF  "Mauii"
Brittish Legend of Beowulf CD CGC TDI CERF  "Wolfie"  tri-color collies
Legend's Year of Jubilee  "Juilee"  S&W collie
From: miller@sctc.com (Steven M. Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Eagle Dog Food
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:17:16 GMT
Organization: SCTC

dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski) writes:

>I look for a food without ethoxyquin, as I've had problems in the past with
>itching and lousy coat.  I've been told that it is safe, but since the
>only common denominator in the foods which I was feeding at those times
>was ethoxiquin, I'll pass.

Virtually every dry dog food has ethoxyquin, even if it is NOT LISTED 
ON THE LABEL.   This is because if the fat in the food was bought
with ethoxyqin already in it then the company is not required to 
list it on the label!!!!!!!! 

Ethoxyquin is a very safe preservative and is also used to preserve
foods eaten by humans.   All the talk about ethoxyquin being a problem
is basically just an urban legend that has spread like wildfire through
the dog world.   

Most likely your dog's itching and coat problems were caused by something
else in the food he was on or something the food was lacking.

All of this is based on information from one of the top vets in the
Minneapolis area (Fran Smith).

Cheers,

_Steve



 
-- 
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miller@sctc.com
``He's dead Jim!  You grab his tricoder.  I'll grab his wallet.''
From: grace@cellar.org (Grace Kirkwood)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: DILANTIN
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:06:41 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

In response to your discussion about seizures:
I have a almost 15 year old DALMATIAN that started having seisures about ten 
years ago.  It scared us quite a bit.  And as luck would have it, then 
started in the middle of the night.  We rushed her to the vet.  He gave her 
shots and she was ok.  They began reoccuring again and again, sometimes more 
severe that others.  Finally we found a vet that put her on DILANTIN.  She 
has not had a seisure now in about two years.  She gets 100 mg per day along 
with folic acid.  She doesn't have any side effects as we can see.  In fact, 
studies show that in humans DILANTIN makes you more focused.  Delilah is 
getting up there in years but she still is very alert, except for a little 
deafness - and then sometimes I wonder.  She can hear you when you ask her if 
she wants to eat, but she can't hear you when she is outside and wants to do 
her thing - like wonder next door or out into the field.  

Perhaps this combination works, we don't know.  We do know that she hasn't 
had one in a long time.  We also give her an asprin twice a day for her 
stiffness.  On February 18th she celebrates 15 years - That's 105 in human 
years.  I hope I make it that long.

From the DALMATION NATION - - - GRACE

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From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Help for a Troubled Dog
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:46:00 GMT
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  I have had some experience with Dachunds, although I don't intend My
personal experience with these dogs as a put down of the breed.
  As a teen, I accepted a Doxie from from some neighbors who claimed
to be allergic.  This Doxie was a cute dog, but Boy! did she have a
temper.  A few different things would set her off, and when she was
mad, she appeared to be possessed by the devil.
  Another time, at a local pet shop that sold dogs, they had a Doxie
pup with a similar mean streak.  When that pup got angry, it was
scary.
  It is real sad when a nice dog doesn't get a fair start in life, but
I'm not  going to jump through hoops and adjust my life to something
the dog can live with.  Any dog that Bit me or my loved one in the
FACE would not live to see the sun go down.
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From: jhill@sierra.com (Julie Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: allergies
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:57:08 GMT
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa

After a year of having my Bloodhound off and on Prednisone, I finally had
allergy tests done on her.  I found out that she's allergic to wheat, rice,
corn, soybeans, and several pollens and molds.  I am going to start a desensi-
tization program with her (injections) for the inhaled allergens, and need to
change dogfoods for the food allergens.  The problem is that all of the dogfoods
that I know of use one of the above grains as their base.  She is not allergic
to barley or potatoes (don't know about oats), chicken, beef, fish, lamb, or
pork (with the proteins, she showed the lowest response to lamb and pork.)  So
the question for you people out in r.p.d land is, do you know of any commercial-
ly available dogfoods that use barley or potatoes as it base?

Thanks,
Julie

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: wet, muddy, snowy dogs
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:29:32 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
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Several dogs have posted here about how much fun it is to get all wet and muddy
and snowy.  I hope all their companion-people have taught them the command
"SHAKE."  This has nothing to do with the parlor-trick of pretending to shake
hands (paws).  This is the command that tells the dog to shake himself off
before he comes in the door.  I have always taught all my dogs this, ever since
I can remember.  Taught a few neighbors' dogs this command, too, as I recall.
(Also teach the command "WIPE WHISKERS" to dogs with long ears or furry faces,
like Buffy, my Cocker Spaniel.)

"SHAKE" is a very easy command to teach:
	Start by saying "SHAKE" whenever you see the dog shaking himself off. 
(You can deliberately get him wet in order to increase the occasions for doing
this if he doesn't get wet often enough just in the course of everyday life.)
	Praise him when he shakes while you say "SHAKE" *when you are
outdoors*;  do not practice this command inside, or in other places where you
don't want him to shake his coat off.
	Soon, start to say "SHAKE" just *before* he begins to shake himself off
(in the proper place).  You can tell when he is about to do this by watching
him.  Praise him to the max when he shakes *after* you have said "SHAKE." 
Totally ignore him when he shakes when you *haven't* told him to.
	Gradually start to tell him "SHAKE" further in advance of when he is
about to do it naturally anyway, & praise lots when he does what you say.
	Pretty soon you've got a dog who you can bring up to the porch all wet
in the rain, & tell him to "SHAKE" several times (which he will do) until he's
got the major part of the biggest mess shaken off of him, *outside*.  Your
neighbors will all envy your dog's knowledge of this command, because THEIR
dogs will all go *in* the house first & then shake themselves off. :-(

You can't get your dog 100% trained to shake ONLY when you tell him to, because
it is a natural reflex to a feeling of having wet or ruffled fur.  But you can
get him to do *MOST* of his shaking *most* of the time, when & where you want
him to.

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Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: Dogs
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:45:00 GMT

In article <BzDKIt.7xp@boi.hp.com> jparker@boi.hp.com (Contract Richard H.) writes:
>Have no idea if this will get to you.  Go for a labrador.  Malamutes are
>a little to large and can be nasty for kids.  Siberian husky too.  Lab's
>are great mine is 11.5 yrs old and has been throughout her life, exactly
>what you seek.  (p.s. pick a smart one!, look at the mother first for signs
>of intelligence).
>
>j.
>

I have to admit that I have forgotten the original question, but 
"can be nasty for kids" is not a breed characteristic of Malamutes
or Sibs (or any other dog that I can think of for that matter).
In my opinion, any poorly trained ans socialized dog can be nasty
for anyone, not just kids.

In the situation here, there are probably other reasons to rule out
Mals and Sibs, but nasty for kids is not one of them.

Not a flame, just want to set the record straight.

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From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Springer Spaniels
Date: 13 Dec 1992 07:48:14 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
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:  >>  I would like to get some information on Springer Spaniels. I wanted to
:  >>  get a dog that is medium sized, a decent watchdog and good with children.
:  >>  So far I've had a Collie and a Border Collie that were both good dogs.
:  >>  We have a large yard and need a dog to go on walks with us as a protector
:  >>  and companion. The Border Collie was great at both but too hyper. He got
:  >>  a new home as a chicken hearder and is in 7th heaven. I do not believe in
:  >>  getting rid of animals but somethings are for the best. Any sujestions on
:  >>  a breed that meets the above requirements that is under 40 lbs. or so?
:  >> 
:  >>                                                 Wanda
First, a suggestion.  Pembroke Welsh Corgis pretty much meet the
requirements with the exception of size.  Is smaller ok?  Like any breed,
look for a breeder who values health and temperament and backs it up in
writing.

Now, why the size requirement?  My German Shepherd, has always lived in rented
housing, and with the exception of 6 months, in an apartment or town house.
The key is some quality play time and solid obedience.  Gaia is a serious
dog; she has her jobs (her own choice)  and as a puppy went to work with
me in a retail store.  As for protection, and obedience trained GSD is great.
The fact that she listens and is what she is tends to send the right message.
Gaia is also great with kids.  I won't let them pester her, but she will let
kids take her toys and food without a sound.  

Don't feel too bad about your Border Collie, unfortunately someone did not
help you to find the right dog.  Border Collies are still primarily bred
as a working herding dog and they tend to have a lot of energy that needs
a constructive outlet.

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog searching and eating food off the counter when nobody at home
From: shoran@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:22:12 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Dec12.002027.19183@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM>, lingz@robin.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Ling.Zhao) writes:
> My 2.5 year old golden retriever would search and eat food off counter top
> when no one is home.  We can not catch him in the "act" because he never
> does it when somebody is home.  One time he even turn on the gas in the
> kitchen.  We've tried to block access to the kitchen with chairs. But 
> recently the fellow figured out a way to the kitchen by slowly moving his
> body underneath the chairs (we caught it with a camcorder).
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Ling

Never leave food on the counter.

Stef
From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Please send advice about Dacshund!
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:33:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.24397
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



>I posted a mesasage asking for advice about my friend's neurotic Dacshund,
>Max, but I haven't had any replies yet :(

Since I know you have a copy of Koehler, I assumed that you weren't
interested.

Also, there isn't _one thing_ you do to cure biting.  You set out to
train the dog right, no pussyfooting around, and the problem may go
away, or if it doesn't then you have enough context to talk coherently
with the dog about it.  Ie let him cool his heels on a long down in
situations where he would like to bite, so you can correct the down.

Were they my friends, I'd say get Koehler, get Vicki Hearne's gloss
on Koehler so you can understand what you're doing when you do what
Koehler says, and send them off.

Biting is communication, or its breakdown, not one thing.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: depth perception test?
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:26:37 GMT


I have to admit that I have long since forgotten the original question.  
All of the advice to take the dog to the vet has been very good.  However,
if one just wants to test to see if a particular dog does have depth
perception, a simple test comes to mind.

To see if a dog is perceiving depth, one can try and get the dog to
walk over something that is deep, but transparent.  For example,
putting plexiglass between two objects that are on the order of 3 feet
or so off of the ground (like across pickup beds or something).
Most dogs are reluctant to walk across something that looks deep.
Cattle guards are another example of this, or catwalks over a creek
or something.  In fact, just dropping a board across a small ditch
or gully and seeing which path the dog takes might be enough.  If
the dog preceives the ditch as deep, he or she will probably choose
to trott across the board.  Obviously, one caveat is to make sure 
that the dog is timid due to the perception of depth, not due to the
arrangement of the test (as in being afraid to walk between two
pickup truck beds, for example).

I have absolutely no idea if this helps or not.

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From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: GSD Heeling problem
Date: 15 Dec 1992 03:49:19 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Distribution: USA
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No 3 months is not to young, unless the primary emphasis was on big
physical corrections.  I would look around for another class.  Talk to the
instructors first.  You want someone who is going to work with your dog's
problems.  You may want a few private lessons, but you will have to work
in a group situation to get a handle on the problem. It may be that you
have to work separately from the group, but the distractions that they
provide are important.   You need to be able to set him up in a controlled
situation.  Max also sounds like he needs more socialization, but again it
needs to be controlled since he already has a problem.   His agression
is a lawsuit waiting to happen.  

I would also look for the book When Good Dogs Do Bad Things.  

If he is not neutered yet, that would be on the list of things to do.
It can help with the dominance problem.  

Good luck, 

Karen
From: cwilbur@polar.bowdoin.edu (Charlton Wilbur)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Too cold for dogs?
Date: 20 Dec 1992 13:45:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

It's fairly good advice that the dog will know if it's too cold. (I mean, they
can be pretty foolish sometimes, but they usually know when they're
uncomfortable.) 

Our German shepherd/collie amalgam usually gets put out for 15 minutes to half
an hour just before the last person goes to bed. This person goes to the door
afterwards, holds it open, and asks, "Do you want to stay outside?" If the dog
stays out, then he sleeps outside. If he comes in, then he sleeps inside. This
ritual has gone on long enough that he knows that if he stays outside, he
sleeps outside.

On a related note, however, this dog has an old armchair covered in blankets
in a breezeway right next to the house, well-sheltered from
wind/snow/rain/etc. Even if it is cold _outside_, his chair is usually quite
warm.

Charlton

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From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:37:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: rescue societies
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs


Most breeders affiliate into breed clubs for their area.  And if they have
an ounce of ethics, they have a committee that does nothing but rescue work.
So for any breed club, they should be willing to refer you to their person
who specializes in rescue for that breed.   If someone comes in saying they
insist on having a puppy, of course the breeders will snap that up.  But if
someone comes in saying they are open to considering a rescue dog, the
breeders should be quick to direct that person to rescue.  Potential adopeters
of rescue dogs are too precious to divert to puppy sales.  Of course, if 
the breeders are not being responsible and are ignoring the need to rescue
their breed, they'll try to sell you on a puppy.

DB 

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: Doggie Odors
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:03:06 GMT

> Ruth Ginzberg writes:
> Another thread made me think of this.  Y'know, I actually *like* the way my
> dog
> smells when she's clean, healthy, happy, unstressed, etc.  In fact,
> sometimes I
> can tell when there's something wrong with her just by a change in her
> smell.
> wierdo fetish or something, but I like the way my doggie smells.  I think
> that
> is part of the bonding experience.  Anyone else ever notice this?


Definitely! As sombody else wrote, dobies don't have much of a smell, and
sometimes I wish they did! I don't know why so many people seem to label
canine body odour as STINK, I think a clean healthy dog smells great. I think
my apartment smells great. Yeah, it smells like dog...so what? I'd sooner
smell that than the apartment of a smoker!



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