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From: husaia@aix.rpi.edu (Atiya Husain)
Subject: Ghazal Time...
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:40:39 GMT




		PHIR BHI
		--------

din raat kay aanay jaanay mein
duniya kay aja'ib khanay mein
kabhi sheeshay dhundlay hotay hain kabhi manzar saaf nahin hota
kabhi sooraj baat nahin karta
kabhi taaray aankh badaltay hain
kabhi manzil pechhay rahti hay
kabhi rastay aagay chaltay hain
kabhi aasain tor nahin chrdhtin
kabhi khadshay pooray hotay hain
kabhi aankhain dekh nahin saktin
kabhi khwaab adhooray hotay hain
ye sab to sahi hay lakin
ashoob kay manzar namay mein
din raat kay aanay jaanay mein
duniya kay aja'ib khanay mein
kuch saaya karti aankhon kay pamaan to dikhai datay hain
haathon say agar cha door sahi imkaan to dikhai detay hain
haan rait kay iss darya say udhar
eik payron wali basti kay unwaan to dikhai detay hain
manzil say koson door sahi
pur dard sahi ranjoor sahi
zakhmon say musafir choor sahi
par kis say kahin aa jaanay wafa
kuch aisay gha'o bhi hotay hain jinhay zakhmi aap nahin dhotay
bin roay hoay aansoo ki tarha seenay mein chhopa kay rakhtay hain
or saari umar nahin rotay
neendain bhi mohaiya hoti hain sapnay bhi door nahin hotay
kyon phir bhi jagtay rahtay hain! kyon saari raat nahin sotay
ab kis say kahin aa jaan-a-wafa ye ahl-a-wafa
kis aag main jaltay rahtay hain kyon bujh kar raakh nahin hatay

(Amjad Islam Amjad)

-----------------------------------
From: irc_aa@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: RE: Help needed
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:03:33 GMT
Organization: Clark University

Dear yawar,

the genearal address for sending mail to U of Rochester is
    <username>@uhura.cc.rochester.edu.
try it.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: HELP! ARABIC,ISLAMIC SOFTWARE
Date: 13 Oct 1992 07:36 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: iago.caltech.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <92287.091804AXS158@psuvm.psu.edu>, <AXS158@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>AS-SALAM ALEIKUM,
> PLEASE, IF ANYONE KNOW OF INTERNET SITES, BBS, FILES ECT.. THAT CAN HELP ME
>IN LEARNING ARABIC AND ALSO SOFTWARE ON AL-QUR'AN, PLEASE REPLY.
>SHUKRAN,
>MA-SALAMA

ASMK!

     You may want to look into Islamic Resource file available at Caltech MSA
     ftp site here. Procedure is as follows;

     		ftp to:  ftp.ugcs.caltech.edu
     		login : anonymous 
     		directory:  cms

    Salaam,
    Asim Mughal
    Care-taker,
    Caltech MSA

   [Standard Disclaimer]

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: Hijab and dress code in Islam
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 01:01:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.202417.21995@sarah.albany.edu> ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj) writes:
>In article <7OCT199205001104@iago.caltech.edu> rached@taylor.eng.ohio-state.edu (rached) writes:
>>   Yasmin, the initial post to which I replied, considered the current
>>dress code in IRAN as a violation of human rights. It was a UN
>>commission that wrote that report. Giving an example of US dress code
>>was just to expose the double standard those people work with. On one
>>hand when it comes to Islamic dress code it is a violation of human
>>rights. On the other hand when it comes to western dress code
>>(fabricated by men to be imposed on men and women) it is not a violation
>>of human rights.
>
>As I recall, I too was commenting on the state of affairs in Iran and
>had originally posted this article to soc.culture.iranian.  I also
>gave my opinion on the US dress code.  In principle a dress code is
>a dress code and one injustice does not justify another.  On the other
>hand, degrees must be examined.
>
>>No, an unjustice does not justify another. Still I don't think that the
>>concept of dress code is unjust. On the contrary there should be a dress
>>code for people in the society to put a standard and limit beyond which
>>nobody should transgress. Otherwise we will have chaos.

Chais, why???? why this uptightness about clothes. We were born with
no clothes, why is our society so concerned about dress code. In pakistan
men get turned on by a girl wearing jeans, it all a state of mind. If everyone
throws there clothes off and become naked, people will become used to it.
they might get tanned or maybe feel colder .....................
Then everyone will have to healthier and we wont be able to hide the fat under
our baggy clothes.

sahibzada rafay khan [ stand together and deliver the sermon on the hill]
From: ahasan@hprisc-14.cae.wisc.edu (Ali Hasan)
Subject: Re: overall view on pakistan
Distribution: usa
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:39:49 CDT
Originator: ahasan@hprisc-14.cae.wisc.edu


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Tsk Tsk....
You should be ashamed of yourself. Such language about our home!
If you don't have anything polite to say, please don't bother writing here!

						--ali. :-)


"Black holes are places where Mother Nature is dividing by zero."

					Donald Nichols	
-- 
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* Ali Hasan			Computer Aided Engineering	     *
* ahasan@cae.wisc.edu		UW-Madison.			     *
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From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:17:11 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Oct7.082241.24638@ncsu.edu> hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE) writes:
>In article <718316897@halibut.cs.duke.edu> azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:
>>These days a party in Pakistan is termed "classy" only with whiskey
>>and key club. 

>Is this really true?

	   Yes Sir!

>I honestly was under the impression that Pakistan is under Islamic law
>and that law does not permit alchohol. Maybe I have it wrong about one
>or the other. Would appreciate a clarification from the people who know.

	   Islamic law does not permit key clubs either. :-) [BTW, key
clubs are spouse-swapping clubs]. 

	   It is true that Islamic law prohibits alcohol and
extra-marital sex, but that does not mean no one indulges in these
diversion in the privacy of their own homes, and homes of their
trusted friends and relatives.

>thanks
>-harsh


	   Most welcome!

	   Salman [dont smoke, dont drink, what to I do?] Azhar

-- 
 I must, with emotional fire, burn or illume myself
 I must, with the heat of passion, melt or sublime myself
 I must, in flood of tears, drown or cleanse myself
 I must! I must! I must! For my people and myself -- D. Salman [Q] Azhar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ysm@engin.umich.edu (Yawar Shahzad Murad)
Subject: Another test
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 15:59:02 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: soc.culture.pakistan

This is another test; please ignore. I am trying to figure out this
damned line editor!!
From: sahsan@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Salman Ahsan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Urdu Urdu
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:40:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Oct12.204019.22385
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Oct1.042930.28263@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> aam9n@honi1.acc.Virginia.EDU (Ali Ahmad Minai) writes:

 "Stuff deleted"

>"vaaqi'a". Which brings me to the "vaau". As has been discussed on the net,
>the Urdu "vaau" is a "v" sound, not a "w" sound. We got this from Persian,
>which systematically replaces all Arabic "w" sounds with "v" sounds. Thus,
>the correct Urdu pronunciation in my opinion is "v", not "w".  
>

 "Stuff Deleted"

>Ali Minai
>

This might be the case in the dialect you speak, but in the Urdu I have
heard and spoken (the Urdu of Lahore) there is no "v" sound, only "w".
What you say about the vav in Persian (the Iranian dialects) and the
wow in Arabic is, to my knowledge, correct though.

Salman
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore '92??!!!! Was Re: WhyIsSwineProhibited? Answer.
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:12:54 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <dogar.719160120@opal4> dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:
>azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:
>>	   Salman [dsqa-jna '92 :-)] Azhar
>Azhar/Ali in '96.

It will be a long wait, but I think the world will survive. :-)

>Need a Dogar for a campaign manager? How about as a bullying Chief of Staff?

	   Well not just a campaign manager, but a campaign leader. :-)
And, I see no one more suitable than Mr Haroon [hard drive] Dogar.
[If there was a campaign to manage... we would need a manager, but we
need someone to initiate and run the campaign. :-)]

>Wait! That's it! THE ALTERNATIVE PARTY!

	   Sounds fine to me ... TAP = The Alternative Party. Or how
about Aap kee apnee paaty. :-)

>-hd
>"It's a dead man's party."

   As ZA Bhutto said.. yeh meri paaty nehiN hai.. yeh awaam kee paaty hai. :-) 


>P.S.
>For those interested in a serious discussion of Bush and Clinton
>and their respective positions on issues of specific interest to
>U.S. Muslims, please see the latest issue of Islamic Horizons
>[the ISNA magazine]. 

	   There is also an article in Herald (Pakistan) by Mowahid Shah,
who is one of the most respected contemporary  muslim intellectuals.

>For those interested in working on the Azhar/Ali campaign in 1996,
>please [wait to see if I am hired as campaign manager and then]
>contact me.

	   You got the job, and a promise for the position of Secretary
of State..... if we are elected. Our official slogan is that "We do
everything we say we do". 

	   Salman [dsqa-jna '92] Azhar
-- 
 I must, with emotional fire, burn or illume myself
 I must, with the heat of passion, melt or sublime myself
 I must, in flood of tears, drown or cleanse myself
 I must! I must! I must! For my people and myself -- D. Salman [Q] Azhar
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:15661 soc.culture.iranian:8880 soc.culture.arabic:4236
From: izaz@cbnews.cb.att.com (sheikh.izazul.haque)
Subject: Re: convictions
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:24:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.232310.328@newton.ccs.tuns.ca>, jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
> 
> What makes you believe that all/most Pakistanis share convictions... which
> Pakistanis are you talking about... which people are you referring to...
> could you be more specific...
> 
> I'm not suggesting that there are no convictions most Pakistanis share. At
> least national sovereignty is something that most Pakistanis would never
> like to compromise.... some people would prefer to define the word 'nation'
> differently though, possible giving it a religious flavor. This particular
> conviction may not be so important given that it's just like saying, "What's
> common in all birds is that they all do what qualifies them as birds."
> 
> Doesn't the question "what are Pakistanis' true convictions" assume too many
> things?
> 
> Nadeem

Here's what i think.

As an example of a core conviction, individualism is a core value 
for most Americans but not necessarily for most Pakistanis. A traditional 
value for Pakistani is family, and extended family. A value that used to 
be respected but isn't any more is respect for tradition. These days theres
a big money grab underway and that seems to supercede many other values. i 
don't know where religion stands anymore. National sovereignity...i don't know 
about that...when East Pakistan seceded, there was hardly a raging debate and
soul searching or change in national direction to prevent similar events in the
future. 

Izaz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Who is a traitor ?
From: S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 06:59:09 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Summary: Naveed Sherwani is a traitor....as per PSA 
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c



Dear Naveed,
Aslam-o-Alaikoom,
You can find people to call you "kafir" "traitor" or something else. The
thinking of "our" Pakistani brothers is alike. You must have thought the
same for others many times. You know in Pakistan Government "dictionery"
a traitor is one who is not in government. Dear Naveed I will suggest
you (although I know that it is next to impossible) please talk to
people who have differences with you. Convince them of your "actions" or
get convinced. You both "parties" can be right at same time, the
difference is "the way of thinking". I do think that if someone has
differences with someone, he may be called as "traitor". So, think
within yourself, if you are or you are not. If your "inner" (zameer)
says you are right, and you are getting a nice sleep after the day's
work, then do not worry about what other says about you. Let them handle
the "job" and see how they perform.
Regards
Ghazanfar
New Zealand
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani)
Subject: Re: Why we must not ban others from speaking ?
Summary: correction
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:38:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.065415.3434@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) writes:
> 
>      Islam is Tolerant but Pakistn is Not
>       -----------------------------------
> 
>     In this post, in two parts we will establish that 
> Islam's foundation is based on listening to others and have
> the capacity of tolerance. We will also propose that Pakistan
> falls much short of expectation of Mohd[swt].
> 
> Part1:

stuff deleted

>  
> My personal opinion is that Science is better than TSBS, which
> is better than SBS.
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> -Naveed
> 
> 

Throughout the above article, I used Mohd[swt], which is incorrect
use. I should have used Mohammad[pbuh]. I stand corrected. I thank
an anonymous SCPians for this correction.

I future I plan to use Prophet of Islam (POI) to refer to  
Mohammad[pbuh].

regards,

-Naveed

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: haider@netcom.com (Jamal Haider)
Subject: bosnia relief
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:47:46 GMT

                   COLLECTIONS FOR BOSNIA
                   -----------------------

There is a Clothes etc. collections drive in San Francisco on Oct. 25th,1992
Any thing might be acceptable for example, sweaters, jackets, hats, scarfs, 
shirts, socks, shoes, boots, pants, thermal wear, unershirts, blankets,
bed sheets, comforters, baby clothes of all kind, chlidren clothes of all
kinds and anthing else you can think of that will help. Old stuff is OK
but not torn is much better, if old clothes maybe you could wask them. 
If you rarely use it give it away, if you can afford it  
give it anyway you can buy some more. May ALLAH reward you, and pray
to ALLAH that HE give comfort adn peace to the people in bosnia, and victory
to them.

If you cannot come to San Francisco maybe you can give it tom someone who
knows about this event. If you live far away, maybe you can do a similar
event in your area.
From: mohammad@usc.edu (Kamran Mohammad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: LOOKING FOR ADNAN IN UNIV. OF SOUTH FLORIDA      KAMRAN.USC
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:21:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: sal-sun1.1bhvgdINN5os
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun180.usc.edu


  MOHAMMAD  KAMRAN    USC.LA
  mohammad@aludra.usc.edu
  ph:no  213-735-2837

Hi guys,
        I am looking for my friend in university of south Florida.He has just arrived from Islamabad after graduating from Taxila univ.college.If somebody can help me in locating him I will be grateful to him.
                      THANKS
                                        MOHAMMAD KAMRAN
                                       mohammad@aludra.usc.edu
                                       PH-NO:213-735-2837
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:42:09 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <8OCT199208473455@vxcrna.cern.ch> mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP) writes:
>In article <1avctiINNjt4@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes...
>>The answer is simple. NO. Pakistan is not under Islamic law.
>>Anyone who claims otherwise is telling you a bold lie.

>	What about the shariat laws?

	   What 'bout'em? They hardly  "incorprate" some aspects of
Islamic Law into Pakistani legal structure. The charter of Shariat
Bench is to appease the conservatives (mullah groups) than to
implement Islamic laws. 

>>Mirza Sahib,  I have a better idea for you to make money.  Why not
>>take Pakistan the Thai route.  Sell hoards of our bibi's to German
>>tourists.....
>>Babes, babes, babes!
>>j n a.
>>and oh, :) :) :) :) :) :)

	   Good idea, j n a. :-)

>	This I will leave to YOU and some of your muslim brothers from
>	bangladesh, India (probabily pakistan as well) and the
>	rich MUSLIM seikhs from middle east.
>	[Cool down brother! Hamam may sub nungay!]

	   I would like to see Mirza Sahib as the talent co-ordinator. :-)
And, about j n a colling down... well the dude is hot, and if Mriza
Sahib can't stand the heat he should stay out of the refrigerator. :-)

>Mirza Ilyas

	   Salman [cool Paki dude] Azhar

	   
-- 
 I must, with emotional fire, burn or illume myself
 I must, with the heat of passion, melt or sublime myself
 I must, in flood of tears, drown or cleanse myself
 I must! I must! I must! For my people and myself -- D. Salman [Q] Azhar
From: khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Night of Nights
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:48:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1b463sINNaar
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: easy.ces.cwru.edu



		Night of Nights
		===============

	They had been married that afternoon in Minneapolis and journey to the
distant city of St. PAul where they had a room at a downtown hotel.
Night had fallen and the bride had already donned the beautiful silken 
nightie reserved for this occasion and was lounging voluptuously upon the bed.
For over an hour now, the groom, still fully dressed, had been gazing out
the open window into the darkness. Impatiently Gladys addressed him. "Why
don't you undress, dear, and come to bed?"
"Never mind me," he replied. "Go ahead and go to sleep. My mother told me
this would be the most wonderful night I'd ever see and I dont want
to miss a single minute of it!"

P.S. From Over Sexteen , published 1951

Mansoor Khan
Cleveland, Ohio
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mallya@octel.com (Satyanarayana Mallya)
Subject: Re: PakistaNews : save, uudecode, and view in GIF viewer
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:34:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.160819.689@hls.com> rk@hls.com writes:
>
>  >begin 600 pn1008.gif
>   ...
>  [<1992Oct11.205600.6235@panix.com>: 
>      "PakistaNews" in GIF from imran@pnix.com (Imran Anwar) ]
>   ...
>  >end
>
>This is a real neat idea. Of course, if only textual info is going to be sent,
>you might as well send it in ASCII. It'll be really exciting if you plan to 
>include photographs (of them "exquisite" Pakistani models, especially :-)). 
>That'll demonstate the real advantages of this format.

	The pictorial stuff being sent in a soc newsgroup would automatically
disqualify those groups in many universities and companies. There are guidelines
in these places which discourage having noosegroups with such gif files
primarily becoz of their size. It requires larger space and costlier bills
(especially if the feed is thru modems). 

	However if the rumor about exquisite .... is true then I guz most
of the noosereaders might find it worth the risk or should I say risque.
>---
>S Ramakrishnan, Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca


					Satya Mallya

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From: silatman@hls.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: BOSNIA FUNDRAISING DINNER,Sat Oct24
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:32:15 GMT



                   FUND-RAISING DINNER FOR BOSNIAN AMBASSADOR

                             Saturday, Oct 24, 1992
                                    10:30 am.
                     LeBaron Hotel, San Jose, California.

                            Tickets: Adults --$20.
                                     Children--$10.
                                     Little Children--Free.

                   Talk about condition of muslims
                   by recently arrived Bosnians.
                   
                    Contact: Abdul Sattar Rydhan
                             [408] 926-8720.
From: x91waqas@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: WhyIsSwineProhibited? Answer.
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:52:07 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Oct12.145601.27827@sarah.albany.edu>, ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj) writes:
>>In addition to the previously stated property
>>that pig body posesses, it has another property i.e:  
>>
>>	The pig does not reproduce like other animals.  More than one male pig 
>>uses the same female pig.  The father of the child is not known.  This is a
>>dirty act and no other animals does it.  
> 
> I don't understand the significance of the above point.  Biologically
> speaking only one sperm will fertilize an egg producing an offspring
> (not that even this has any significance but still, I wanted to clarify).
> In an uncontrolled atmosphere I believe all (or most) animals engage in
> non-monogamous activity concerning their sexual behavior.  How is this
                                                             -----------
> act dirty?  I mean they are animals.  They have no capability for
  ---------                             ---------------------------
> moral judgments (assuming humans do, which is a big assumption!).  So
  ---------------
> what's the deal?  What does this have to do with the benefits and costs
> of consuming pig flesh?
> 
> Yasmin

Dear Sister Yasmin,

	It may not be for you but it is.  Yes, the animal do not have 
capability for moral judgements but they (except swine) are that way (good way)
and you have the capability for moral judgments.  So, why not use our mind and 
not do what is illogical and hurting to us (our body.)  May Allah give guidance
to those who seek for it.


Your Brother,

Akhtar Waqas.