HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kish@grandam.watson.ibm.com (Bill Kish)
Subject: Need Atlas 6" supplies, etc
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 22:46:59 GMT
Reply-To:  (Bill Kish)
Organization: IBM TJ Watson Research
Keywords: Atlas, Lathe


 I recently aquired an older model (50's-60's) Atlas 6" lathe.

 Atlas is now owned by Clausing. They carry some parts and 
 accessories but many are discontinued or of poor quality
 or are overpriced.

 Is there a source for used Atlas parts. Is there an aftermarket
 source for accessory items, (Faceplate, chucks, tools., etc)?
 Any advice is greatly appreciated!

			Bill

 PS: I do not have net mail access at this time, so please post replies...
From: wbrown@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (Bill Brown)
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: Re: Need Atlas 6" supplies, etc
Date: 16 Oct 1992 14:53:44 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.192.17
Keywords: Atlas, Lathe

In article <1992Oct15.224659.78450@watson.ibm.com> (Bill Kish) writes:
>
> I recently aquired an older model (50's-60's) Atlas 6" lathe.
>
> Atlas is now owned by Clausing. They carry some parts and 
> accessories but many are discontinued or of poor quality
> or are overpriced.
>
> Is there a source for used Atlas parts. Is there an aftermarket
> source for accessory items, (Faceplate, chucks, tools., etc)?
> Any advice is greatly appreciated!

I suggest that you get a copy of "Home Shop Machinist" which was recently
mentioned here in another thread.  There are adds for many outfits like
Enco which offeer all sorts of useful stuff.  There are also adds from a
number of outfits that deal in used machinery and accessory items.

Enco has 3 & 4 jaw chucks, faceplates, tool-holders etc.  They don't carry
collets for Atlas; the smallest they carry seem to be 5C.  (I'm looking
for a set of 3C collets for my Logan.)  One other thing - watch your local
papers' want-ad section for repeat advertisers - you can usually identify
repeats by the phone number.  At least in my area there are one or two
"garage operations" that sell used machinery.  They advertise individual
items, but when you go to look at whatever was advertised you find a whole
garage (and sometimes yard!) full of stuff.

Disclaimer:  These opinions are my own and have	    |
    nothing to do with the official policy or the   |  -bill
    management of L.B.L, who probably couldn't      |   wlbrown@lbl.gov
    care less about employees who play with trains. |
From: jimkirk@news.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: Re: "crafts"
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:31:04 GMT
Organization: University of Wyoming - Laramie, WY

In article <138941@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, gary_preckshot@lccmail.ocf.llnl.gov (gary preckshot) writes:
> 
> Jim, where is the RFD posted?  I've been waiting for it to appear on
> rec.woodworking, but there has been nothing.  From the above message,
> I directed myself to news.groups and again did not find it.  How can we
> contribute to the discussion if the RFD is posted in some strange place?


The RFD was posted to news.announce.newgroups and several others.  It
should have been posted to news.grous but I haven't seen it yet.
On our system, it has shown up in at least rec.woodworking, and here
in trial.rec.metalworking as well.  The date on it is 13-October; perhaps
your site is just behind a few days, or is missing articles (which is
sadly a common problem with usenet newsfeeds).

If you still can't find it, I can e-mail you a copy.  However, I'll
be away from my terminal for a few days.

Jim
From: jonesm@nic.cerf.net (Matthew Jones)
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: Re: D. Gingery Books
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:26:30 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1992Oct10.051943.21865@news.iastate.edu> schrader@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Dave Schrader) writes:
>I guess this falls under the dumb beginner catatory, so rail on me if you must, but... I just got
>done reading some books by a David Gingery on how to build your own lathe etc from scrap and was
>wondering if any of you more seasoned veterans out there may have seen or heard of these books.
>Are they credible or the ravings of a lunitic ?
>                                        Dave Schrader

I've seen and read two of his books. I posted this exact question to helping
hand section in HSM and got about a half dozen responses. Some people have
actually built them! I was interested in the Shaper. People have also sent 
pictures of the lathes (Ginery's design) they have built to HSM. 
The upshot was you need is tons of time. I'll post the details of what
they said if you want.

Matthew Jones
jonesm@cerf.net
From: jimkirk@news.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: Universal Motor question
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:59:25 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming - Laramie, WY

I am trying to rehabilitate a very old pipe threading machine and am
having a problem understanding the electric motor.  It looks like
roughly 1940 vintage, and has a 1/2 horsepower Black and Decker AC/DC
universal-type motor (brushes and commutator visible through vent holes).
However, some previous user apparently jerked the power cord off, ripping
out part of the DPDT switch in the process.  How to re-instate the wiring
is the question.

There are four black wires.  Between two of them, I measure a few ohms
of DC resistance, which also varies as the armature is manually rotated,
so I'm guessing these two wires go to the brushes and hence the armature.
The other two wires measure about one ohm DC and remain steady as the
armature is rotated so I'm guessing these go to the field windings.

My question is how to wire this puppy up as a reversible motor.  Do the
two windings go in series or in parallel?  Do I just turn one of them
around in relation to the other for reverse?

I tried to run AC power in to one at a time, through a LARGE 4-ohm resistor
just to limit current, and only got the resistor warm.  Before further
fiddling I thought I'd better ask around!

Not exactly a metal question, but maybe there's somebody had to deal with
the same sort of problem!

Jim Kirkpatrick    jimkirk@corral.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
From: schrader@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Dave Schrader)
Subject: D. Gingery Books
Organization: Engineering Animation, Inc.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:19:43 GMT

I guess this falls under the dumb beginner catatory, so rail on me if you must, but... I just got
done reading some books by a David Gingery on how to build your own lathe etc from scrap and was
wondering if any of you more seasoned veterans out there may have seen or heard of these books.
Are they credible or the ravings of a lunitic ?
                                        Dave Schrader
From: gary_preckshot@lccmail.ocf.llnl.gov (gary preckshot)
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: Re: "crafts"
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:10:49 GMT
Organization: LLNL

In article <1992Oct14.154821.263@news.uwyo.edu>, jimkirk@news.uwyo.edu writes:
> 
> Now that the RFD is official for rec.crafts.metalworking, I have posted
> the following to news.groups to try to change the name to rec.metalworking.
> I was pretty much forced to add "crafts", but I think if consensus demands
> removal of "crafts", we can get away with it.  Please feel free to post
> your comments on this or any other aspect of the RFD to news.groups.
> 
> Jim

Jim, where is the RFD posted?  I've been waiting for it to appear on
rec.woodworking, but there has been nothing.  From the above message,
I directed myself to news.groups and again did not find it.  How can we
contribute to the discussion if the RFD is posted in some strange place?
From: jimkirk@news.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: re: Home Shop Machinist
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:35:56 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming - Laramie, WY

HSM is published by Village Communications, 2779 Aero Park Drive,
Traverse City, MI, 49684.  Phone (USA) is 800-447-7367.
One year is $22.50 (US).  Before I decided to subscribe, I
was lucky enough to find it carried by the Waldenbooks in
Fort Collins, CO (I *think*; maybe it was B Dalton; I call them
both "B Walden" :-)

Jim
From: wbrown@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (Bill Brown)
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: Re: "Home Shop Machinist"
Date: 9 Oct 1992 15:05:29 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.192.17

In article <1992Oct8.204220.8031@ac.dal.ca> magnet@ac.dal.ca writes:
>My local newsstand doesn't know "Home Shop Machinist", but seemed interested;
>does anyone have publisher's address, etc., handy?

I don't have the name of the publisher handy.  I'll try to remember to
post it from home this weekend.  They also publish _LIVE_STEAM_ (used to
be monthly, went back to bi-monthly starting with Sept.) and _Projects_
In_Metal_., also bi-monthly.

These 3 publications contain what used to be combined in _LIVE_STEAM_
years ago.  I think that splitting up into 3 different publications
may have been a Bad Idea, given the apparent size of the metal-working
hobby (hobbies?).  Better one large and robust magazine than 3 frail
ones.

I've been picking up "HSM" at a local bookstore (Tower) but either the
Sept Issue never showed up or I missed it.  Has anyone seen it?
Subscriptions are only about $22/year.  I should subscribe but haven't
got a RoundTuIt.

Another magazine that may be of interest is _Modeltech_, if it is still
being published.  The previous publisher of _LIVE_STEAM_ started
_Modeltech_ after he sold _LIVE_STEAM_ and retired.  He recently passed
away so the continuation of _Modeltech_ seems to be in question.

Disclaimer:  These opinions are my own and have	    |
    nothing to do with the official policy or the   |  -bill
    management of L.B.L, who probably couldn't      |   wlbrown@lbl.gov
    care less about employees who play with trains. |
From: magnet@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: "Home Shop Machinist"
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:42:19 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I'm not sure that a group with a traffic level as low as this one can truly
be said to have _any_ FAQs, but when we do, this will be a contender...

My local newsstand doesn't know "Home Shop Machinist", but seemed interested;
does anyone have publisher's address, etc., handy?

Thanks for your reply,
Stephen Ritcey.
From: alexo+@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Orenshteyn)
Newsgroups: trial.rec.metalworking
Subject: Re: Proof bars.
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:52:44 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <138223@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> gary_preckshot@lccmail.ocf.llnl.gov (gary preckshot) writes:
>In article <Bvnn6y.69G.1@cs.cmu.edu>, alexo+@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Orenshteyn) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone knows where I can get a proof bar (a metal rod 1/2" or so in diameter
>> 12" long) ground to 0.0002 or 0.0001 (if possible) tolerances. I need it to
>> test a vertical milling machine for accuracy.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>
>Try one of the bearing manufacturers.  Thomson, the makers of "ball bushings",
>have precision-ground case-hardened rod for sale on which the ball
>bushings run.  Their product name is "60 Case" ground rod, and it is
>supposed to be ground to tolerances of 0.0001 and straight as well.
>
>G.

Do you have a number for Thomson? Or town and state they are in?
Newsgroups: trial.test
From: crichard@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (christopher richards)
Subject: test
Summary: Testing
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:47:45 GMT

No surprise here.
From: yulman@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Al)
Newsgroups: trial.test
Subject: TEST
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:20:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

TEST
this is a test

Newsgroups: trial.test
From: crichard@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (christopher richards)
Subject: Re: gooky wooky
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:09:01 GMT

mfc1493@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael Frank Caver) writes:

>ratboy test

Newsgroups: trial.test
From: crichard@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (christopher richards)
Subject: Re: Aglets
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:53:09 GMT

(Lacey McTongue) writes:

>There they are, right there on my shoes, looking at me, watching me. Oh,
>the horror.

Oh my God.
Newsgroups: trial.test
From: awatson@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Watson)
Subject: YATT
Originator: awatson@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: su
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:40:05 GMT

That's right... it's yet another test trial.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 14:03:20 CDT
From: <U57567@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: trial.talk.politics.peace
Subject: Re: Anbody there?
 <1992Oct8.052905.4488@leland.Stanford.EDU> <Bvu97G.8sB@well.sf.ca.us>

Make it Four!

I just stumbled onto this group;  it's rather depressing to see that it
apparently is almost unused!

Hope we can fix that!!!!

Al
---"For his mind is not for rent, to any God or Government..."---RUSH
Newsgroups: trial.talk.politics.peace
From: dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood)
Subject: Re: Anbody there?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:14:03 GMT


I'd like peace, nudge nudge, know what I mean?

So.  We've established that at least three people have accessed this group
this week.  So what's the group for?
-- 
Anton Sherwood *\\* dasher@well.sf.ca.us *\\* 1800 Market #207 SF 94102
Libertarian candidate for California Assembly, 12th district
Opinions mine, but available for lease at easy terms.
From: kubard@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: trial.talk.politics.peace
Subject: Anbody there?
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:59:23 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hey there!  Anybody still out there?

					Peace,
					John Phythyon, Jr.
From: justolvi@sara.cc.utu.fi
Newsgroups: trial.talk.politics.peace
Subject: Re: Anbody there?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:23:55 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

In article <92283.140320U57567@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U57567@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> Make it Four!
> 
> I just stumbled onto this group;  it's rather depressing to see that it
> apparently is almost unused!
> 
> Hope we can fix that!!!!
> 
> Al
> ---"For his mind is not for rent, to any God or Government..."---RUSH

Make it...FIVE!

...whatever "it" is. But yes, let's not forget peace and all that.

Jussi Tolvi    Turku,Finland
justolvi`kontu.utu.fi
From: PRICKRIL@bscf.uga.edu (BEN PRICKRIL)
Newsgroups: trial.talk.politics.peace
Subject: Re: Anbody there?
Date: 8 Oct 92 04:58:25 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, USA
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Oct7.155926.43666@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> kubard@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

> Hey there!  Anybody still out there?
> 
> 					Peace,
> 					John Phythyon, Jr.

Yes John, I (at least) am here. I think this group isn't getting much attention
due to the political war going on (= election year). What do you think???



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Newsgroups: trial.talk.politics.peace
From: yunus@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Jonas Sami Celebiler)
Subject: Re: Anbody there?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 05:29:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.155926.43666@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>  
kubard@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> Hey there!  Anybody still out there?
> 
> 					Peace,
> 					John Phythyon, Jr.


Well, I'm out here.

Do you believe in peace, or do you believe in the U.S.A. government, ot  
generally in not cutting the military defense budget?
From: glenne@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Neuromancer )
Newsgroups: trial.talk.politics.peace
Subject: Re: Anbody there?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 04:05:50 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

E' Gadz... It's been a while since I've been on here.
I've been busy arguing with the anarchists.  But peace is
really the subject that is far dearer to my heart.  But there
is a problem it seems; conversations usually get going because
there is clash between diverse set of opinions.  Now what is
going to happen when you throw a bunch of pacifists togther.
One thing I can tell you is that there isn't going to be much of
a clash of opinions.  We just say I'm for peace, are you for
peace?  Well yeah.  How 'bout you?  Yeah.. me too.  Cool.  Let's
go home.
 
Well fortunately I tend to grate on people, and clash with just
about everyone.  So maybe I can get this newsgroup into high
gear.  I'm what you'd call a RADICAL non-propertarian,
anarchistic, christian pacifist.  Not only do I NEVER advocate
the use of violence, even for self defense, but I realize that
one will always have to use violence (or coercion) to defend
property.  Solution?  Get rid of property.
 
I believe in closing down all the prisons, and letting all the
prisoners go free.  I believe in eliminating ALL weapons.  But
my anarchist side puts a nasty twist on all of this.  If a person
want's to keep their guns, I look at it as thier perogative.  I
think they are stupid, but I think it is their perogative.  Now I
do tend to get a little irritated when the government uses my tax
money to build the implements of death, but I tend to look at the
government like any other two bit thug that puts a knife to my
throat and demands money.  I let them have the money.
 
Now I see John, is still on here.  Hi, John!  Good... Good... a
while ago we were having a discussion in this newsgroup on how
much resistance is too much resistance.  Suppose the government
decided to gather up all the children and kill them, to amuse the
bureaucrats.  What the could a pacifist do in this situation?
 
Using violence against the government is out for me.  Hmmm...
hiding kids in the attic is cool.  Hmmm... protesting is cool...
Do I have any kids in the attic?  Argh... I really hate to lie...
would I lie to save a kid's life.  Yep... "Sorry, I'm not hiding
any kids."
 
Are there any other angle's on this hypothetical situation?
 
Glenn                           glenne@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
 
P.S.   Is anybody else really ticked off that there are NO
canditates proposing any real cuts in the murder oops...
defense budget?
From: PRICKRIL@bscf.uga.edu (BEN PRICKRIL)
Newsgroups: trial.talk.politics.peace
Subject: Re: Anbody there?
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:51:40 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, USA
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Oct8.052905.4488@leland.Stanford.EDU> yunus@loro-next.Stanford.EDU writes:

> In article <1992Oct7.155926.43666@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>  
> kubard@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> > Hey there!  Anybody still out there?
> > 
> > 					Peace,
> > 					John Phythyon, Jr.
> 
> 
> Well, I'm out here.
> 
> Do you believe in peace, or do you believe in the U.S.A. government, ot  
> generally in not cutting the military defense budget?

I don't know about John, but I do believe in peace. I also believe the U.S.
government does far too little to promote peace, especially wrt military matters
Consider the following:

-The U.S. has supplied a total of $300 billion in weapons, military assistance,
 and economic aid during the last 30 yrs to every country now at war but two.
 (24 wars are now underway) This happens even though ward are declining world-
 wide

-Despite the end of the cold war, the U.S. military continues to spend almost 
 $300 billion every year in preparation for wars around the world (remember the
 "domino theory" in SE Asia?)

-None of the wars occuring now endanger the security of the U.S.

-The United Nations plays an increasingly important role in peacekeeping 
 operations, and provides a superior alternative to direct U.S. military 
 intervention.

-The world spent $1,000,000,000,000 in 1991 alone on wars and preparations
 for war.  

(The above figures are from the Defense Monitor, published by The Center for
Defense Information, Washington, DC).

The bottom line for me is that we americans want our cake and to eat it too.
How can we claim to be for peace when we actually support countries at war
by selling weapons and providing military assistance?  Even when the threat
(if that's what the Soviets were) has disappeared, we still maintain a bloated
military.  Think of how much good could come from, for example, employing our
best minds, scientific and otherwise, in the pursuit of peaceful objectives;
afterall, that's what Japan and Germany do to good effect. 

I know the difficulties I mentioned can't be overcome too easily, but they can
(must?) be overcome.


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Newsgroups: trial.newgroups
From: johnson@speshr.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Subject: Wanted: a new group re: mgt case study discussions
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 13 OCT 92 17:41:15 EST

(prefaced with the usual "not sure this is the right group, but...")

There are many groups concerned with discussion of computer software,
technology, manners, ad nauseum, but none that I could find that serve as a
forum for discussing management education case studies.

I'm sure we all use many of the same studies and the more insight from varied
environments, the better. Plus, this area of 'expertise' needs some serious
work.

How does one start one? I'm not sure I can, but if one starts I'll be there.

Thanks,

Pete Johnson - DEC, Shrewsbury, MA USA
Internet: johnson@speshr.enet.dec.com
UUCP:  ...!decwrl!speshr.enet!johnson
CIS: 72557,61
From: lovsey@mec.ohio.gov (Jim Lovsey)
Newsgroups: osu.general,oh.general
Subject: Re: Pumpkin Show
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:07:16 -0400
Distribution: oh
Organization: Metrop. Educ. Council, Columbus, OH


In article <1992Oct14.145154.18084@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
	bkrumsee@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Barb Krumsee) writes:

> Does anyone know when the Circleville Pumpkin Show will be this year? It seems 
> to be the right time of Ocotber, but I haven't seen anything anywhere.
> 



Some of my users are located in Circleville so I made an inquiry.




>>	Inquiring minds need to know.  What are the dates for the Pumpkin show
>>	this year?


>
>
>In response to your message yesterday, the dates for the Pumpkin Show are
>as follows:
>
>It starts at 12:00 p.m., October 21st and runs through October 24th.  We
>hope that all of you can find some time and come down and enjoy the festi-
>vities.  We suggest that if it is at all possible you would be better off
>to come down before Saturday night.  The traffic is terrible and the crowds
>are huge, especially if the weather is nice.  Have fun!!!!!
>

-- Jim
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