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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:58:59 EDT
From:         gaynet@GALLIFREY.KENT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 3

In this issue:
                                 Family
                                Deities
                   contact info for Forgotten Scouts
                                 Bravos
                    GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 672
                      Various notes from the week
                         ROTC: It's Outta Here!
                            Pitt G/L Alumni
                          Republican platform
                           Voting statistics
                    Melrose Place & One Life to Live
       TWO GAY RIGHTS BILLS PASSED in California: Call Governor!
               Do former Gaynetters need to re-subscribe?

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Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 10:57:22 EDT
From: SECSI003%SIVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: Family

Gabriel, I don't think anyone has a problem with using the term 'family' to
describe an lgb person. I've heard "He's family", "She's family" in many parts
of the country. It seems to be fairly standard. All I think John and Sarah were
talking about was applying the concept (whatever that may come to be) of the
word "Family" to the lgb community. Used loosely to identify one of us is one
thing, trying to rein us all into one's definition of "Family" is something
else.
I also don't think that you need ask for exemption from anyone to use the
word 'family' as you want. (Is Las Cruces really backward?) Maybe if you find
someone who takes offense at being called 'family' you might curtail use of the
word around that person, but if no one is bothered by it, and it's just a
descriptive device that is understood, than what's the problem?

And you're right...you do sound different while you're reading Henry James...!

Steve Smith

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Date: 02 Sep 1992 11:10:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Deities
From: An Anonymous Sender

I haven't been able to read lately and do to an hard-drive error, I lost my
incoming mail for a few days.  Did someone answer the question about the
Eastern Indian (that is from India) deity who is gay?  I would appreciate
if someone could (re)post an answer.


                    THANX  :)

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: contact info for Forgotten Scouts
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:40:41 GMT

jnrg@ocf.Berkeley.EDU writes:

>    Contact info, as requested, for Forgotten Scouts:
>Telephone: 415-626-8299.
>Fax: 415-626-8298.
So these numbers should be the same then, right?
Thanks for posting the info. I'll put the file in /pub/QRD/qrd/info/CONTACTS
on nifty.andrew.cmu.edu.

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RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. `D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"I might be President by now if it weren't for this 'queer' thing" -Gore Vidal

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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 92  10:09:11 CDT
From: jjscally <JJSCALLY%UKANVM.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject:      Bravos

Cheers to Mark Rosenstein at MIT for an excellent job in maintaining
Gaynet.  I hope he is on to bigger and better things.

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From: nhess@cwis.unomaha.edu (Nancy Hess)
Subject: Re: GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 672
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 11:00:19 CDT

Just a note to the lesbian moms-to-be from a straight mom of a lesbian
daughter as well as a straight daughter, both of whom I love with all
my heart.  Parenting is not about sexuality - it is about love, nurture,
caring, supporting, and being there.  Little Sarah or Joshua, whatever
the case may be, will be a very, very lucky little person to have both
of you for MOMS.  Good luck - someday the world will be the way we want
it to be and all people will be fully accepted for themselves with no
other considerations.  At my age - at least I hope that comes true
someday!!!  As far as having to "explain" to anyone about having two
moms -who cares????  Two moms is a whole lot better than no moms or no
dads.

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Various notes from the week
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:09:45 GMT

CJones <CJones.MAILROOM@wylbur.kines.ucla.edu> writes:

>After watching "The Heights" on Fox Thursday, I got into a conversation with
>someone at work who said that James Weathers (Alex, the poet/singer) is Drew
>Barrymore's boyfriend.  I then read this in TV Guide, which also talked about
>Drew's "sexual ambiguity."  It said that she appeared in nude photos with her
>boyfriend in a avant-garde magazine.  Now, what magazine was that and did he
>appear nude with her?  (Just curious.  It's not often that the John/Yoko thing
>happens.)
The magazine is _Interview_ magazine ($12 per year annual subscription) and no
he doesn't appear nude (atleast not frontally). He is shirtless however. It is
the issue from about two months ago, which would probably be June or July.

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RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C., April 25 1993''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
Anne-Imelda Radice, President Bush's appointee to head the National Endowment
for the Arts, has been described as ``the Lesbian Clarence Thomas''.

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: ROTC: It's Outta Here!
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:18:18 GMT

Larry Bliss <BLISS%MAINE.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu> writes:

>Finally, after working on this for over a year, the headline in the
>Portland Press-Herald screams this morning: "USM Drops ROTC Contract,
>Cites Military's Ban On Homosexuals."
Cool! Congratulations, Larry!!
HOw long was the article? Could you type it in or give us numbers on how many
students are affected?


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RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C., April 25 1993''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
Anne-Imelda Radice, President Bush's appointee to head the National Endowment
for the Arts, has been described as ``the Lesbian Clarence Thomas''.

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Pitt G/L Alumni
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:21:01 GMT

C60RBR1%NIU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu writes:

>  Does anyone know if there is a gay and lesbian alumni group for
>the University of Pittsburgh? If so, please post contact data to
>me at c60rbr1@niu.bitnet.Haven't heard of one, and am trying to see
>if I have missed information.Thanks in advance.
>                                               Rob Ridinger
In the file /pub/QRD/nelgbsa/net-gala there are only two Pittsburgh references.
One is for the CMU Alumni Group, and one is for Lakeside High School alums.


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RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C., April 25 1993''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
Anne-Imelda Radice, President Bush's appointee to head the National Endowment
for the Arts, has been described as ``the Lesbian Clarence Thomas''.

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Republican platform
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:23:55 GMT

aruesga@cc.gettysburg.edu writes:


>Where can I obtain a copy of the Republican platform, or of the indicated
>sections (I understand it's a very lengthy document)?
I'm working on getting an on-line copy of the Republican Platform.I'm  sure if
you write the RNC  and/or The White House they would send you a copy of the
platform in the mail.

The Democratic Platform is in /pub/QRD/qrd/info/GOVT directory on nifty.andrew.
cmu.edu available by anonymous ftp.

>I would also appreciate newspaper articles reporting Quayle's "Murphy
>Brown" gaffe, as well as leads on how to obtain copies of Pat Buchanan's
>convention address.
The text of this speech is in /pub/QRD/qrd/text/buchanan-RNC-text also on
the Queer Resources Directory.

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RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C., April 25 1993''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
Anne-Imelda Radice, President Bush's appointee to head the National Endowment
for the Arts, has been described as ``the Lesbian Clarence Thomas''.

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Voting statistics
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:46:40 GMT

<MARKD@urjwc.ucla.edu> writes:

>    You've still got a few more weeks.  Hound your friends until they
>register out of sheer irritation, then hound them to vote.  Don't wait,
>there's not much time.
Yes, DO IT! You can only register to vote until October 10th, I believe. Just
a little bit over a month left...

>Mark from Los Angeles where only 13 percent of registered voters cast ballots
>       for the current mayor in the last election.
Damn!! I was not aware of this fact. I do know that roughly 50.2% of the
electorate voted in the 1988 Presidential election.


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RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
``The first thing you do is forget that I'm Black. Second, you must never forget
that I'm Black.'' -Pat Parker, "For the white person who wants to be my friend"

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Melrose Place & One Life to Live
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:59:13 GMT

jasonl5493@aol.com writes:

>The so-called coming out episode with Matt's brother never materialized on
>episode as promised (from Advocate) and all the queers who tune into the show
>must be wasting the time since next week's episode is #8 and I didn't see
>anything to do with Matt on an advance sattelite feed.
Grrrrrrrrr!
Well, people, time to start the letter-writing campaign! Here is the address
to tell them you will NOT be watching their show till they do SOMETHING with the
gay character...

Darren Star,executive producer,
Spelling Enterprises
5700 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90036


>On the other hand, ABC's One Life to Live's gay plot is coming to a
>conclusion this Monday.  Friday's episode with the AIDS Quilt and Billy's
>coming out to the church members were the most emotional and moving episode
>so far!  Even straight viewers agreed with me on the Genie computer network!
>Everyone should write a letter thanking the network and the producer.
To express your support for their "courage", write to:

Linda Gottlieb, executive producer
ONE LIFE TO LIVE, ABC-TV
40 W. 66th Street, New York, NY 10023

Dennis Swanson
President of ABC Sports, Daytime and Children's Programming
47 W. 66th St., 13th floor
New York, NY 10023

[both of these addresses (for OLTL and Melrose Place) can be found in
/pub/QRD/qrd/glaad on nifty.andrew.cmu.edu by anonymous ftp]

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RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Birth Control is disgusting--people using each other for pleasure."
                               Randall Terry, Chairman, Operation Rescue.

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Subject: TWO GAY RIGHTS BILLS PASSED in California: Call Governor!
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 13:46:20 -0400
From: Ron Buckmire <buckmr@rpi.edu>

From Bryan Blumberg:

AB-2601 is Assemblyman Terry Friedman's bill to amend the Labor Code
to prohibit employment discrimination based on sexual orientation.
When Pete Wilson vetoed AB-101 last year (which would have amended the
Fair Employment and Housing Act), Pete said the bill was uncessary
because the appellate court in Soroka vs. Dayton Hudson ruled that
the Labor Code already offered employment protection.  So, AB-2601
was Friedman's response saying basically, "O.K., Governor, you say
that the Labor Code offers this protection, then let's not just rely
on an appellate court case, why don't you sign it into the law explicitly."
This is necessary, by the way, because the State Supreme court set
asside the Soroka decision two weeks after Wilson's veto last year
so they could rule on it themselves.  That decision is expected later
this fall.  If AB-2601 is signed, then their decision will not matter.

AB-2601 passed and went to the governor for signature six days ago.

The governor has given no indication whether he would sign or veto
AB-2601.

AB-3825 is Assemblyman Willie Brown's omnibus civil rights package
which among other things contains most of the FIFTEEN civil rights
bills which Pete Wilson vetoed individually last year.  One of the
provisions of AB-3825 is the entire contents of last year's AB-101.

AB-3825 passed and went to the governor for signature late last night.

The governor has been threatening to veto AB-3825 ever since it was
introduced.  Business is opposed to AB-3825, so Wilson is opposed
to AB-3825.

It takes about a week for the paper work to go through and actually have
a bill printed and ready for the governor's signature.  AB-2601 should
get to the Governor's desk some time this week.  AB-3825 should get
to his desk some time next week.  He has until September 30 to sign,
veto, or allow them to become law without his signature.

The question then is, "I heard that the legislature passed a budget
last night and moments later the Governor vetoed it.  What happened
to the week you just said it would take just to get the bill to his
desk?"  To answer you, "I don't know."

In any case, please call the governor's office and ask them to have
Pete sign BOTH AB-3825 and AB-2601.

Just remember, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between the Legislature
passing a bill and getting Pete Wilson to sign it into law.  If you
thought Deukmejian vetoed a lot of bill, you apparently haven't
been watching Wilson.  He vetoes a lot more.

Here is the info:

The phone numbers for the Governor's office are

    (415) 703-2218 (San Francisco)
    (916) 445-2841 (Sacramento)
    (213) 897-0322 (Los Angeles)

An operator will take your call and record your opinion.  Unfortunately, you
don't get to talk to Gov. Wilson himself.  They may or may not ask for your
name; you only have to give it if you want to.

Ask him to sign BOTH bills, AB-2601 *and* AB-3825.

- -
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C., April 25 1993''
uunet!rpi.edu!buckmr||buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet||buckmr@rpi.edu||+1 518 276 8910
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between mother and child."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle

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Date: 02 Sep 1992 13:52:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Emanuel Perkins <PERKINS@ksuvxa.kent.edu>
Subject: Do former Gaynetters need to re-subscribe?
Mime-Version: 1.0

Melinda Baumann asked a good question:

"Do those of us who are already subscribed to Gaynet have to resubscribe?"

The answer is no.  Mark sent me the current list of subscribers and any
requests that I didn't already have.  If anyone knows of someone who is NOT
receiving from the new server, please let me know!

Thanks for your question Melinda!

John

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John Emanuel Perkins
System Software Specialist
VAX System Manager
Kent State University

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