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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Desmanthus illinoensis
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:27:57 GMT
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Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
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Here's some botannical info on Desmanthus illinoensis (taken from Wild Flowers
of North America, a standard reference)

D. Illinoesis, also known as Prairie mimosa or prickly weeed, grows up to
8 feet tall. The pods, about an inch long, are in dense heads, curved or
twisted to form a sort of ball. 
June to August: on prairies, river banks, etc., from Ohio to Minnesota, North
Dakota and Colorado and southward to Florida, Texas and New Mexico.

The Prairie-mimosas are erect plants  without thorns. The five minute, greenish
petals are practically seperate. There are five stamens, projecting from the
perianth. The pods are flat.

Looks like an ordinary weed to me. 

-Scott
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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN)
Subject: Re: Yohimbe
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:56:40 GMT
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In article <1992Aug19.230406.16227@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.220151.18078@ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN) writes:
>>>>Question: Yohimbine (from the yohimbe bark) is supposedly a potent MAO
>>>>inhibitor.
>>>
>>>No, it's not.  It's a alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist.
>>
>>Actually (now that I have some refs in front of me) it IS a MAO inhibitor, your
>>fact may be true; I know not what you speak of.
>
>And what refs are those which you have in front of you?
>
Psychedelic Chemestry
Magickal & Ritual uses for Herbs
From Chocolate to Morphine
The Natural highs FAQ

Sure, not very prestigious, but unanimity convinces me.

-Scott



Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cannabis@west.darkside.com (Cannabis Kid)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: FREE 1-YEAR NRA MEMBERSHIPS (Not Here!
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:22:21 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

st1o5@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:

> Guns don't kill, bullets do! >:-)
> 
> dw

 
No, the blood pouring outta your body along with the slow lead poisoning 
is what kills you.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: conn. supreme court and cocaine moms.
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:57:56 GMT

gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo) writes:

>so, what kind of drugs do they normally give mothers just before birth?

  I've heard scopolamine mentioned. But I don't see a reason for this.
Perhaps, once again, Steve Dyer could help.
  My mother said that they gave her nitrous oxide when she was giving birth to
me. Hey, perhaps that's why I got to be like this.
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
-- 
Jani Heinonen                  "The worm is not psychoactive."
jah@mits.mdata.fi                 --David A. Honig
From: u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Yohimbe
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:21:13 GMT
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <36991@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Trevor Cederquist) writes:
> 
> Scott writes:
> ===========================================================================
> Question: Yohimbine (from the yohimbe bark) is supposedly a potent MAO
... But is it good for activating DMT orally?

> 	The yohimbe in health food stores is reported to be
> 	unbelievably impotent for psychedelic purposes (as 
> 	for its indication: male impotence I'm unsure.)  If
> 	you could find the bark you'd be much better off.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. net.opinion seems to be
divided over its efficacy. But what we are worried about here
is its potential ability to activate DMT.
 
> 	"Ayahuasca" is a name applied to as many drugs as there
> 	are tribes in meso and south America.  The common ingredient
> 	is supposed to be the beta-carbolines (harmala alkaloids.)
> 	However, "ayahuasca" is noted as a hodge-podgery of
> 	things including Datura saveaolens, leaves containing DMT,
> 	and other possibly inert ingredients like certain frogs
> 	(no bufotenine), blood (did you see Altered States :-) ?)
> 	etc.  What I'm getting at is that an ayahuasca recipe 
> 	printed is an ayahuasca recipe fabricated which may or may
> 	not resemble closely a drink consumed by a certain Meso
> 	or SOuth American people.

Some people may have mixed all kinds of things with B. caapi.
Some ethnobotanists who I have communicated with have visited
various tribes and checked out their recipes first hand
before experimenting with the particular combination of
beta-carbolines and DMT. They have asked me to observe
discretion wrt their findings. I do however trust their
recipes as coming from original sources.
 
> 	Perhaps Jeremy or Bob could give you more information
                ^^^^^^
> 	on what particular combinations would yield the best
> 	possible result.  

G'day. I'd like someone to give me more information. Let's
hear from someone who has got this to work.
> 
> 	BTW, harmala alkaloids are neurotoxic.  I don't know
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 	if yohimbine is... perhaps it might be better than
> 	the harmala alks.     

Whoa! Ouch. This is a new one by me! References PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!
The closest I have come to finding anything like this is a
J.Med.Chem article comparing beta-carbolines with the now
infamous MPTP of instant parkinsonism fame. They found that
the beta-carbolines were most likely not neurotoxic by this
route because they didn't form the neurotoxic pyridinium
cation in vivo. More info please!
There are a lot of people out there eating harm* compounds
in passionflower extracts several OTC sedatives in .au

Jeremy
jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
From: jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: News item/LSD dosing
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:08:25 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

In <1992Aug15.040435.22950@mercury.cair.du.edu> tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude) writes:

>people who are expecting it regularly go crazy.

Bullcrap.
-- 
John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   61+3 344 7959
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052
From: u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Mail interception
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:14:33 GMT
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <frank2.12@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>, frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (FRANK D N) writes:
> I heard an interesting story recently: 
> 
> A small amount of grass was mailed in a letter from South Africa to someone 
> in Australia. The grass did not reach its destination, but the Australian 
> police did. They visited the person to whom the letter was addressed, who 
> claimed ignorance and innocence - and was therefore not prosecuted.
> 
> What intrigues me about this story is how, with all the thousands of letters 
> that must come into the country daily, was this one intercepted?

An Australian friend of mine was caught the same way for importation of
a sheet of LSD. The point is, that customs people open a significant
percentage, if not all, packages which are sent into the country,
especially if they look serious. If you are going to do this, be
VERY careful.
My friend was caught because his US friend (who is very stupid and
in a lot of trouble) posted the sheet in a package, not a standard
envelope.

Jeremy
jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Dosing and vodka
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:02:38 GMT
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

dfl@aeolus.think.com (David Lively) writes:
>
>P.S. I don't see anything (morally) wrong with the "dose-me-later" pact
>described by a previous poster.  Consent is the key.

     I don't see anything morally wrong with it either, but it's still
an extremely stupid idea.

===============================================================================
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     "What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?" - Nick Lowe 
          This is a .signature antibody. Vaccinate your .sig!
"Duty then is the sublimest word in the English language.  You should do your
 duty in all things.  You can never do more, you should never wish to do less."
 -- General Robert E. Lee
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From: wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene)
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch (Joan Vollmer)
Organization: Hell Hole, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:22:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.175351.45075@dante.uucp> mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:
>wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene) writes:
>: 
>: It looks like the movie of "Naked Lunch" is rewriting history
>: just as I expected it would.  All the followups give the
>: impression either explicity or implicitly that Burroughs was
>: responsible for the shooting episode.  Although they both liked
>: to perform this William Tell routine, in the fatal episode his
>: wife, Joan Vollmer, goaded him into it.
>
>Uh, as "Literary Outlaw" points out, this is from WSB's point of
>view, as the others who were there don't like to talk about it.
>Whether or not she goaded him into it will never be known, as all
>of the people in the room were severely fucked up except for
>Billy, who was too young to remember it clearly.

No, this is clearly wrong.  Various biographies and critical
studies that cite eyewitness accounts agree (to varying
degrees, admittedly) that Joan goaded him in that particular
incident.  Yeah, most of the folks there were drunk but their
accounts agree on the basic facts.  Joan, apparently, could be
a real bitch when she was in the throes of Benzedrine fury.  Normally
this daredevil shooting act was his idea, but this one time
she suggested it and prodded him in his stupor to do it.

WSB II was not too young to remember the incident and he did.
He obviously didn't like to talk about it but he also admitted
that it fucked him up.

>: head (the movie gets that right).  Their son was in the room
>: (maybe both their kids were, I forget exactly).
>
>They only had one kid, Billy Jr.

Sorry, half-sister.  Joan Vollmer had a kid from a previous
marriage, I believe, before she hooked up with Edith Clarke
(later one of Kerouac's wives) and fixated on WSB.  
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Yohimbe
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:05:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.220441.24614@ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN) writes:
>Question: Yohimbine (from the yohimbe bark) is supposedly a potent MAO
>inhibitor.

No, it's not.  It's a alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist.

>It is commonly available through health food stores as a natural
>stimulant/diet pill. 

Yohimbine bark (or stuff claimed to be such) is what is sold.
I doubt that these preparations deliver any significant amount
of the drug.  Yohimbine itself is an Rx-only medication, sold
as a treatment for some forms of impotence.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: goldsman@CC.GATECH.EDU (Mike Goldsman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: T.A.E. Hemp seeds for sale --- info
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:29:32 GMT

A person wrote me and told me that he called them and asked them
what exactly the seeds were.

Turns out they ARE sterilized.. so they are perfectly legal.


T.A.E. is simply trying to rip off people who think they are going to
get fertile pot seeds.  Its totally sleazy.


(C'mon $50 fo 1 ounce?  ) Nowhere in the ad do they mention that the
seeds are infertile.. and what is a person who oders them and
gets ripped off to do?  

"Officer, I was trying to buy pot seeds, but I got ripped off."

Actually, its illegal to sell fakes of illegal drugs.. isn't it?

Also, is anyone going to be attending the the NORML coinference in San 
Francisco?

-Mike
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice)
Subject: Re: hydroponics
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:41:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.055335.10471@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson) writes:
>I was wondering and think I found a possible serious enterprise...  Since
>selling hydroponics equipment _is_ legal, (isn't it?) how about buying 4-5
>hydroponics setups at a time mail order and selling 'em at the flee market
>for a hefty profit.  That way, people could buy them without putting their
>name on a list.  Think it it would work?
>
Why couldn't they just buy them under a false name. That is how I buy
anything that the stores require giving a name and address for. They 
don't ask for ID do they?

Matthew
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:06:14 -0400 
From: "Alan S. Ferrency" <af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Mail interception

>Although the volume of international mail coming into a country is
>relatively large, it is usually a small percentage of the volume of
>domestic mail.  These days drug sniffing dogs are really sensitive,
>too.  Lastly, you have to realize that this was the letter that was
>caught, and that many more may have gotten through without anyone
>noticing.
>
>Is there any info in the FAQ about fooling drug sniffing dogs?
>I've heard that if you tightly seal dope in an impermeable
>enclosure (polyethylene, say), thoroughly wash and deodorize the
>package, and then pack it with coffee to further mask the smell,
>that you have a good chance of fooling the dogs.  Any truth to
>this?

What about the sniffing of domestic mail in the United States?
1. Does it happen?
2. Does it happen to all packages, or just certain ones?  (for example, all
packages over a pound or something)
3. What drugs are dogs trained to sniff for, just MJ or other stuff too?
4. What are people's personal experiences with sending substances through the
US domestic mail services?
5. What about the UPS?  Any different?

-me
From: tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Trevor Cederquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: The FDA's WoV (War on Vitamins) Pt.3
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:39:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

alternative health  and environmental issues, drew thousands who
marched to protest the F.D.A. proposals, some carrying signs
warning, "Act now or kiss your vitamins goodbye!"

                       Of Rights and Costs

Many advocates are afraid that the general public is not fully
aware of the repercussions the agency's actions could have, not
only on consumer's rights to chose alternative forms of
medicines, but also on their pocket-books.  Health experts have
also noted that many parents are afraid to give children huge
numbers of pills.  "It's easy to say, 'Just take more pills' if
you want higher doses or potency," said the actress Mariel
Hemingway, who has been vocal in her opposition to the proposals.
"But that means you'll go through a bottle of vitamins every
week."

Dr. Vaughn Harada, a California dentist who uses electro-
acupuncture to treat patients and is president of the Association
of Health Practitioners, a trade association of doctors,
dentists, acupuncturists and naturopaths, said a growing number
of its members use nutritional supplements, homeopathic remedies
and medications in their practices.  "Now they're afraid they may
be targeted by the F.D.A. like Dr. Wright was," Dr. Harada said.

Deborah Widel, one of the co-founders of People for Reason in
Science and Medicine and a patient of Dr. Harada, said she feared
such scenes would become more commonplace.  "We're not trying to
put the F.D.A. out of business," she said.  "It's an agency that
has served a useful and necessary purpose.  But we don't need Big
Brother, either."

"Basically, we as consumers want a freedom of choice.  What the
F.D.A. proposes is a direct violation of our constitutional right
to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
From: feinstei@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Mail interception
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:09:08 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

In article <4eWcVq_00WB24MiXg3@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Alan S. Ferrency" <af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> What about the sniffing of domestic mail in the United States?
> [some other questions and then...]
> 5. What about the UPS?  Any different?

I worked for UPS for a while and when we were trained they told us 
that they never look inside or investigate the contents of a package 
unless it ends up broken open, leaking, etc. I would tend to believe 
that. That would only apply to packages being shipped entirely within 
the United States though, and if someone were to ship questionable 
things through UPS they should be very well packed. 

Josh

feinstei@sonoma.edu
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From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Questions about Ayahuasca
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:16:46 GMT

   I intend to experiment with some sort of a poor man's Ayahuasca using
Desmanthus illinoensis roots and Peganum harmala seeds. Now, I have a few
questions. What is an appropriate dosage of the roots? The dose of smoked
DMT is around 60 mg, but it must be different orally with MAO inhibitors.
Should I chew the seeds before I ingest the roots so as to be sure that
the MAO inhibition is in effect? What is the best way to consume the roots?
Will grinding them to a fine powder and mixing it with, say, water, work?
How long should I abstain from eating and drinking anything but water
before and after ingestion? Do the roots contain anything (apart from DMT
and MT) that might be dangerous with MAO inhibitors?

   Please post or mail if you have any information regarding these questions.

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Jani Heinonen                  "The worm is not psychoactive."
jah@mits.mdata.fi                 --David A. Honig
From: 10563903@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (DUNCAN HEARD)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: How many would prefer eating over smoking if marijuana were legal?
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:50:51 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University

In article <1992Aug13.173042.8303@uunet!tellab5!odgate> dbk@uunet!tellab5!odgate (Dan Keith) writes:
>There is a form of smoking called vaporization that does not actually burn
>or combust any material. Instead, it uses heat to vaporize the "good
>stuff", which is then inhaled. This results in no tar or carbon monoxide,
>which is a much healthier situation. This has been discussed here before.
>In addition, I believe that one of the cigarette pushers (Philip Morris?)
>has patented a smokeless cigarette which was never brought to market.

>Dan "Bud" Keith ...mcdchg!ecgcurly!odgate!dbk, ...uunet!clout!odgate!dbk 

Sounds Interesting... Any more details available? -Must have missed previous
discussions.

DBH
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Marijuana: Don't barbecue your brain
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:07:55 GMT

In article <Bt6v7o.4H@wrs.com>, gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:
>This is some really incredible stuff.  I don't know when/where it was
>originally published, and I don't know whether/when it was ever posted
>here, but here goes.  For all I know, it might even be a put-on, but
                                          ?????           ^^^^^^
>it's good for a laugh anyway...

>	joint,_part_of_your_brain_actually_catches_on_
>	fire_and_burns,_leaving scars that impair

Come on, Gak!  This is too ludicrous even for the PTFA.  Without a
reference to the actual publication which contained this, I'm going to have
to file it under "hoax".  

I mean, we shouldn't let ourselves sink to their level, should we?  ;^)

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: AA (Was Re: Definition of an addict.)
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:18:31 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier) writes:
: 
: Unfortunately, many people are being sentenced to go to AA or go to
: jail, which, given the unpleasantness of jail, isn't much of a choice
: to be offerred. I do not know if this occurs in Australia, but it
: definitely occurs in Canada and some jurisdictions in the US. In my
: opinion, they should just be sentenced to jail, and can attend AA 
: there if they wish.
: 

This does not square with my knowledge of AA.  It would not have been
welcome or even accepted when I was attending.  I sure hope that has
not changed.  Most people I have known in AA would reject this out
of hand because it simply cannot work.  The voluntary nature was a
cornerstone and a recognized prerequisite.

I have seen people given the choice of inpatient treatment or jail
and that most often means exposure to AA but I have never heard of
anyone forced to go to meetings.  On second thought I do remember
one case where it was made a condition of parole.  Luckily though
this guy took to it, was glad for the introduction and continued
after his parole.  I wouldn't expect that to be common.

Bob

-- 
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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Photosynthesis Philosophy.
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:05:11 GMT

In article <16AUG199200094619@acad3.alaska.edu>, jscsp@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Parker) writes:
>Using the ideas in _The_complete_guide_to_growing_Marijuana_, one assumes 
>a plant needs 'Red' and 'Blue' rays to grow, right? Well, a FOAF claims
>that an ultra-violet light is the most perfect place to get blue rays from.
>FOAF also says : ultra-violet light = Black light. <- Truth? Not Truth?

Red and Blue light are both in the visible spectrum.  One is needed for
chlorophyll production, the other is converted to energy by the chlorophyll.
Regular fluorescent lights will give you plenty of Red and Blue.

There has been some speculation that far-UV (UV-short?) light aids in the
production of THC.  The reasoning is that the highest THC content plants
were grown at high altitudes and that the far-UV levels are higher there.  I
don't know if there's any truth to it.  Far-UV causes cancer and maybe other
things (retina damage?), so if you experiment with it, be sure it's turned
off before you or your dog enters the room.

Blacklight = near-UV (UV-long?).  It's on the edge of the visible spectrum. 
As far as I know, it's useless for plants.  Feel free to experiment with it,
though; it's pretty safe.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
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