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From: Rebekah.Venable@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Rebekah Venable)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Abortion
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 07:12:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

        I really don't know how to start answering this message, so I will start by saying that I believe abortion is wrong in ANY circumstances and nothing will change my view of that.  The reason why I say that minors should notify their parents is that the parents would know how to handle the situation much better than the minor.  Teenagers often don't realize the value of their parents and are not willing to confide in them.  Now I do admit that some parents don't actually have value and in that case I
 think it should be required that the minor at least see a counselor.
        Next, you asked me what I think as an individual without necessarily taking my religious views into account.  First of all, I am not religious.  A religion is Catholic, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist, etc.  Christianity is not a religion, it is a way of life and I can not seperate Christian beliefs and my beliefs because they are one and the same.
        My decision to oppose abortion is not based on religion.  It is based on the fact that I can't stand the murder of innocent human beings who were never given a chance in life, because their mother didn't want them.  Our God IS a loving and caring God.  It is the sins of the world that cause so much misery.
        No, sending girls to backstreet abortionists will not solve the problem.  But neither will keeping abortion legal.  It would make girls think twice before they go kill their baby and it would cut down the number of abortions greatly!  Nothing will ever solve the problem.  The problem started when Eve bit the apple and it is getting worse and worse all the time.  When Jesus comes back the problem will be solved, though.
        Yes, it is better for a child to be brought up in a loving and caring environment, but you would kill a baby because you THINK it will have an unhappy life?  You don't know what is going to happen in that baby's life.


        Do you live in England?  I am sorry that I did not reply last night like I said I would, but I ended up going out with some friends and then they spent the night.  In fact, they are still here, sleeping. Well, I suppose I better go.  BYE.
                                In God's love,
                                Rebekah

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From: wvhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William VanHorne)
Subject: Re: evolution
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:37:32 GMT

In article <40008.2B5E58FE@puddle.fidonet.org> Stephanie.Merino@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Stephanie Merino) writes:
>Hello Everyone!  My name is Stephanie Merino.  I am a senior at Bonnersferry
>High School.  We have just finished a chapter in Biology II dealing with
>evolution. Now that we are done, I have begun to wonder what other peoples
>views in this area are.  Ther have been so many different ideas passed
>around over the years, one sometimes finds it hard to know what to believe.
>Is it possible to have formed from non-living matter (spontaneous generation)?
>Or could we have been created by "GOD", as many have been taught to believe.
>Lastly is it possible that we have evoled from the apes and are distantly
>related to them.  This subject has been disputed over for a number of years
>but there are still many questions to be answered and mysteries to be 
>solved. Thus, I am very interested in what people from all over believe.
>It is easy to get very confused when trying to dicipher between right and
>wrong when dealing with this subject.  I would appreciate any replies you
>might have regarding Human Evolution.

Stephanie, it is easy to get very confused when trying to dicipher between
right and wrong when dealing with *any* subject.  As a result, we humans
have developed a process of sifting information through a filter that only
passes information and ideas that meet a strict series of requirements.
That filter is called science. 

Science is a method, a process, like any other process.  Think of it as
the ultimate murder mystery.  You may believe, with every fibre of your
being, that "the butler did it".  You will find, however, that the DA isn't 
even going to prosecute without evidence, and your evidence had better be
good, that jury is going to be a tough one!  Sooo....gather your evidence,
interview your suspects, make predictions based on the facts, test those
predictions, and see where it leads.  You may find your belief was correct,
or you may be suprised; either way, belief doesn't count.

Evolutionary theory has passed the test of science.  Period.  Whether
one "believes" in it or not is irrelevent.  Evolutionary theory has proven
to be the best description we have of the process of life on this planet.
Period.  It makes no judgements as to the existence of God, life after death,
the literal truth of the Koran, or whether autos should have air bags.  
Beliefs and belief systems are separate from science, because they are
inherently unprovable using the process of science.

As to the remaining questions and mysteries, you will find that science tends
to generate new questions as it answers old ones.  The more we know, the more
we know we don't know.  If there are mysteries you want solved, go solve
them!

---Bill VanHorne
From: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Homosexuality
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:54:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <41468.2B637B25@puddle.fidonet.org>
  Katrina.Teibel@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Katrina Teibel) writes:

>I have a personal belief that all living things have males and
>females for a reason.  (That is of course if they are not asexual.)

As humans we have an oddly parochial view of the universe.  Your
statement above is not even remotely close to correct even with the
qualification.  A vast array even of multi-cellular life forms are
hermaphroditic.  There are many organisms that change sex during their
lives.  There are many that have different forms in their life cycles,
alternating between sexual and asexual reproduction.  There are many
organisms that don't reproduce themselves at all (although of course
other members of their colonies do).  The human pattern is not a
template that you can generalize for all life histories.  I suspect
that life on earth is much much more diverse than you currently think.

>     Reproduction is the purpose of sex.  

Personally I think that you shouldn't look to animals to make any such
judgements, but there is a fair amount of literature about our closest
kin that suggests this isn't a well-founded statement.  In bonobos
(aka pygmy chimpanzees) it seems, judging by their actions, that the
"purpose" of sex (both homosexual and heterosexual) is to maintain
group cohesiveness.

>It is placed in scientific evidence that a female and a male must
>share a sex cell to reproduce.  Therefore, it is natural to be
>attracted to the opposite sex, and abnormal to feel a sex drive twards
>the same sex.
>
>I don't know if I have made my point clearly, but I am speaking
>scientifically.

Partially you are, but you're drawing your conclusion without using a
substantial amount of relevant data.  If you really want to be
scientific about the topic, you might want to begin by defining
"purpose".

>Katrina

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Mickey Rowe     (rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu)
From: James.Aitchison@p4.f85.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Aitchison)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: classroom museum
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:54:26 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/85.4 - Western Canada DATA, Stavely Alta

Hi Linda.....

24 Jan 93, Linda Spivey writes to All:

 LS> I am helping a teacher plan and set up a hands-on science museum in the
 LS>  classroom as an at the end of the school year project.  We are aiming
 LS>  for a May date.  Has anyone else done a similar venture?  We are
 LS>  thinking of having sections on the Ocean, Environment, Physical and
 LS>  Optical Illusions.  If you know of any projects that can be built by the
 LS>  students, or any reference material, please share.  Thanks.  Linda in FL
 LS>  -+-

Keep us posted on how it is going!  Seems like this could be a real resevoir of science ideas!

... If you're grinnin', you're  winnin'!

                                         James.....


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From: Tyler.Coffey@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Tyler Coffey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: WASTE
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:13:27 PDT
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From: Jessie.Bailey@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Jessie Bailey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: evolution
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:42:06 PDT
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To all...
 
Hi.  My name is Jessie Bailey.  I have sent a variety of messages
on this system, and today I would like to talk about my views on
evolution.  First of all, I would like to define to you MY
definition of evolution--the continuous change and adaption
throughout the existence of this planet.  This definition, I
believe!  However, I do not believe in DARWIN's theory of
evolution. I have heard enough facts on this theory to prove to
myself that it is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, untrue.  I am a
believer in God, and I truly believe that he is our creator.  Many
people do not believe in God simply because not EVERYTHING about
our God can be explained by humans or "proved".  But it has been
proved that humans only use between 10 and 20 percent of their
brain.  Isn't possible that we aren't "smart" enough to know an be
able to explain EVERYTHING?  Then there are those who do not
believe in God because they say that the Bible is contradictory to
things that we as humans have proved (or almost proved).  For
example, researchers are able to estimate the age of our earth at
approximately 5 billion years old, however the Bible explains that
God created the earth much more recent than that.  Well, God
created Adam and Eve, and he created them as adults--not as
children, so isn't possible that he also created the earth aged?
Just a thought.  You see, my belief is that human beings cannot
explain everything.  I feel that there are some things that will
just never be explained, until one day when we die, and God feels
us with the knowledge that we all hunger for. 


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From: Tyler.Coffey@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Tyler Coffey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: WASTE
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:23:09 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

Hello all.  My name is Tyler Coffey.  I'm writing this message on
the subject of landfill and waste removal.  I live in Bonners Ferry
Idaho.  This is a small town of about 2500.  It is located
approximately 20 miles from the Canadian border.  I don't know alot
on this subject except that I know Idaho is a small state and that
often times I've heard that larger state's waste is often
transported to smaller states such as Idaho and our neighbor
Montana.  I would like to know any information anyone has on this
subject.  I would also like to hear some information on landfills. 
 
I would like to know how much space we have for landfills and when
and if we will ever run out.  I would also like to hear some
information and opinions on the burning of trash.  I would like to
know the state and government regulations on these things.  I am
also interested in recycling.  I would like to become more aware of
different things I can do to help preserve our world.  Here, in
Bonners Ferry, Idaho, recycling is rarely heard of.  I would like
to know what I can do to bring recycling into my tiny community.
If any one has any information, I would be very grateful if you
would get back to me. Thank you for your time.
 
Tyler Coffee 


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From: Katrina.Teibel@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Katrina Teibel)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Homosexuality
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 09:43:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

Rebeckah- I have read your message about homosexuality.  I agree
that sexual preference is a personal choice.  I also agree morals
and personal beliefs play a major role in sexual preference.
     Ask yourself, "Is it natural to be attracted to the same sex?" 
 
My answer to this question is no.  I have a personal belief that
all living things have males and females for a reason.  (That is of
course if they are not asexual.)  I don't believe this reason is
for males tomate with males, and females to mate with females.  I
do believe that males and females are to mate with eachother.
     Reproduction is the purpose of sex.  It is placed in
scientific evidence that a female and a male must share a sex cell
to reproduce.  Therefore, it is natural to be attracted to the
opposite sex, and abnormal to feel a sex drive twards the same sex. 
 
I don't know if I have made my point clearly, but I am speaking
scientifically.
     Whatever theory of homosexuality being a form af brain damage,
I could easily believe it.
 
Sincerely
 
Katrina



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From: Stephanie.Merino@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Stephanie Merino)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: smoking
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:03:08 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

 
Hello there. My name is Stephanie Merino and I am a senior at
Bonnersferry high school.  I am writing to get opinions on Smoking. 
 
I do not smoke but both of my parents do.  They know the harmful
effects of smoking but still they continue to "light up."  I am
more concerned about their smokings effects on my nine month old
daughter.  I wonder how much more their second hand smoke has on
her than it does on them.  Will it have a long term effect on her? 
 
When the lungs turn black what happens next?  Hopefully getting my
own apartment next year will help her.  I was also wondering what
other ways are there to satisfy the craving for nicotine other than
the nicotine patch and gum??? What are some statistics on the
effectiveness of the patch and gum.  Also what types of things
could I remind my parents of that might help them to change their
minds about smoking for their sake if not mine???  Any replies are
greatly appreciated. 


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From: Glenn.Christensen.Ii@p0.f11.n356.z1.fidonet.org (Glenn Christensen Ii)
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Subject: teachers
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:24:44 PDT
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Write immeadiately for free list of positions
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From: Iain.Macpherson@f405.n622.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Macpherson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: water pollution
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 20:11:42 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:622/405

MD>farming.  Fields are often made extremely close to the river and
MD>lakes.  These fields are sprayed and fertilized annually.  I
MD>believe that a certain amount of these chemicals must drain into
MD>the water.  While fishing in one of the oxbow lakes, I noticed
MD>that
MD>many of the perch I caught had small bends in their backs.  While
MD>cleaning them, I also noticed a small blue spot at the back of
MD>the
MD>females egg sacks.  Two of the fish I caught were severely
MD>deformed.  However, I tried not to keep any of the fish with the
MD>bends in their backs.  Does enough chemicals wash into the lake
MD>to
MD>hurt the fish?  Are the fish harmful for me to eat?  Will cooking
MD>the fish neutralize or remove any of the chemicals?  I would
MD>appreciate any information on this topic.

       Concentrating on your final three questions:
(1) Yes. Highly probable.
(2) More than likely they are somewhat harmful. Cut the risk and eat something else.
(3) Cooking will neutralise some chemicals but change others to something more harmful.

       Sounds too risky to eat these fish to me.


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From: Tyler.Coffey@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Tyler Coffey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: bears
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 12:55:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

 
hey! A greeting from Bonners Ferry, Idaho.  Bonners Ferry is a town
in northern Idaho of about 4000. I'm a junior in high school here.
My dad is a logger.  Most of the community here is supported by
timber dollars. Living in Northern Idaho for all of my life, it has
been a common sight to see such wildlife as deer, elk, moose, and
bear. Bears have usually not been a problem, however in recent
years, the problem bears from the National parks such as
Yellowstone, and Yosemite, have been tranquilized and transported
up to the Selkirks, which is the area where we live. As I said
bears have not been a problem but when you take bears who are used
to people and transport them, it makes for trouble. To complicate
things, the most common bear transported is the grizzly bear, and
laws protect them so heavily that some people won't shoot them even
if there lives may be in danger for the fear of the strict laws.
Northern Idaho is on the expansion pretty heavily.  We get alot of
granola eating hippies who come from California as well as other
places to be one with themselves and live off the land. Most of
these people don't know how to act around the wildlife and get
themselves in trouble.  Now I'm no expert on this subject, and I'm
curious to hear other peoples replies so please do so. 


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From: Ryan.Harrington@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Ryan Harrington)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: GENERAL
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 12:35:01 PDT
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From: Walter.Hellman@f32.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Walter Hellman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Bridge Contest
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 22:09:00 PDT
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From: Glenn.Christensen.Ii@p0.f11.n356.z1.fidonet.org (Glenn Christensen Ii)
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Subject: lecture
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 12:30:26 PDT
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You are obviously a talented young man.  I am interested in hearing more from you .  (btw) I had to go back to my real name because this board did not want me using a handle anymore.  When I started talking on this mess. area I was not aware that it was put to use in class rooms and may need to apologize for any offence taken.  However I am set in my way of thinking until someone can show me otherwise. 


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From: Ryan.Harrington@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Ryan Harrington)
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Subject: GENERAL
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 12:46:33 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

WPCB 


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From: John.Thompson@f600.n139.z1.fidonet.org (John Thompson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: deafness                 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:16:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:139/600 - Homebuilt Flyer, Neenah WI

HS>  What I am wondering is how some people become deaf or partially deaf. 
HS>  Could have something in the womb cause a child to become deaf?  

Yes. Maternal rubella (for example) is associated with infant deafness (and
other problems).

HS>  Could drugs affect the fetus in the womb and cause the child to be 
HS>  born deaf?  

Certainly.  Some drugs are known to be ototoxic (directly damage the
auditory nerve); use of these (eg aminoglycoside antibiotics) could
conceivably damage the fetus.

HS>  Is deafness a genetic trait that can be passed down from 
HS>  generation to generation?  

In some cases there does seem to be a genetic component to hearing
impairment.

HS>  Can diseases in early childhood contribute to some hearing impairment? 

Sure.  Meningitis (inflammation of the lining of the brain and spinal cord)
can lead to hearing damage, as can trauma of various kinds.  Recurrent
otitis media (middle ear infections), particularly when the eardrum bursts,
can also lead to hearing impairment from damage to the middle ear structures
and scarring of the eardrum.

HS>  Is it possible to cure or at least help some of the deaf?  

I don't think total deafness can be treated.  If there is any residual
hearing, some kind of augmentative aid (cochlear implant, hearing aid) might
help; this is HIGHLY dependant on the individual though.

HS>  I know that hearing aids can help but how much can they help?  

This also depends so much on the individual that there's no point trying to
make a general statement...

HS>  I am considering a career in working with the hearing impaired and
HS>  would welcome any information!  

Go for it!  There's lots of jobs available, from teachers of the deaf to
audiologists to sign interpreters and more.  You won't regret it!  BTW,
Gallaudet University for the Deaf operates a BBS at 1-202-544-3613; perhaps
they could give you more ideas and information...

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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: HI                       
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:24:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Hi Sarah,

-> What is your name?

I'm Sheila King, the moderator of this echo. This is the K12_Math echo,
and we want everyone who writes messages in this area to write about
math.

How old are you? What grade are you in? Do you want to tell us what
you're doing in math? What are you learning in math and do you like it?

If, on the other hand, you would prefer not to discuss math, but are
just looking for a penpal, then you should post in one of the Chat
areas.

Sheila King
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coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                              

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