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From: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: DAVID SILVERMAN
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS-UUCP

Hmmm... that's right, all y'all get "Kamp Krusty" on the 24th... makes
me sorta glad to be able to see it on the station that carries OFF up
here in Edmonton on Wednesday the 23rd...

Chris Burgess                  chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
"Who am I? Let's just say I'm a concerned prude with a lot of time on
his hands" - Bart, in "Bart's Friend Falls in Love".
    
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: rjc@onion.princeton.edu (Raymond Chen)
Subject: Yeardley Sightings
Organization: Abject Admirers of Lisa Simpson
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:29:37 GMT

Yeardley ``That dress cost me a fortune'' Smith was a guest on Allan
Havey's ``Night after Night'' program Friday night.  A noteable aspect
of the 8-minute interview was that we got to hear her speak in
something that more closely approximates her normal speaking voice,
rather than the whiny voice she uses for her camera and voice work.
(Cf. e.g., Teresa Ganzel.)

Other points:

    * Emmy stuff
	- Ms. Smith's dress at the Emmys was custom made for her,
	  based on a dress worn by Lana Turner in ``Imitation of Life''.
	  She loves the dress, but bemoans the fact that she can't ever
	  wear it again...
	- From her seat at the Emmys, she couldn't even see the stage.

    * Simpsons stuff
	- One scene that Ms. Smith successfully objected to involved
	  Lisa having ``hot flashes'' (Ms. Smith's words) over a
	  young stable boy.
	- Hank Azaria was sent to Boston to record parts
	  of ``Flaming Moe'' with Aerosmith.
	- It takes one day (from 10am to 7pm) to record an episode.
	- The show has ``approximately one billion'' animators.
	- On the agelessness of the characters, Ms. Smith noted that
	  Lisa has turned eight twice.  Now, one of them was [7f24].
	  Is Lisa going to turn eight again this season?

    * Other stuff
	- As suspected here, she is now 28 years old.
	- She can't keep a straight face when things get weird.
	- Ms. Smith loves old movies, especially the glamour
	  and sex appeal.

    * Fibs and other interview-induced weirdness
	- She claims not to feel any guilt that she never had to
	  struggle to achieve her phenomenal and instant success.
	  (Yeah, right.  See the SI interview for a refutation.)
	- ``I don't like to eat in front of people I don't know.''
	  (This was her excuse for not eating a donut on camera.)

I think I'm suffering from Yeardley Smith overexposure.  What with
``Maximum Overdrive'' (the nightmares continue...), the Emmys,
and now Allan Havey...  Where's Dan Castellaneta?  Nancy Cartwright?
I for one wouldn't mind seeing more of the versatile Julie Kavner.
(Yeah, I know, she was profiled in ``Parade'' Magazine last year.)
--
Raymond ``Thanks for the snapshot.  You're a real cute bird.''[7f18] Chen
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Chapstick
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 04:02:34 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

thove@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (hove tom) writes:

>I realize this was discussed last April, but what was the chapstick reference
>all about in "The Return of Sideshow Bob"?  For Kelsey Grammer's intonation
>alone, that had to be the funniest line on the show: "I don't want it!"

Maybe I just didn't get the joke.

I figured he didn't want it back because some other inmate had used it.  

Chapstick addicts like myself understand that it's a close, personal
thing, not to be shared. ;)
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From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: more voice info!
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:07:26 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ron Carter) writes:

>Also, an interview with Sara `Darlene Conner on ABC's
>`Roseanne'' Gilbert revealed she will be the voice of
>Bart's girlfriend...  `She's like the first girl that
>he can kid around with, that doesn't get grossed out,
>like most girls do.'

>For people outside the US, `Roseanne' is an extremely
>popular US sitcom starring Roseanne `Barr' Arnold.

>Sara Gilbert plays one of her daughters on the show.

She was also the daughter in the film "Poison Ivy".

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: dranney@mls-9.informix (David Ranney)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Chapstick
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:16:02 GMT
Reply-To: dranney@mls-9.informix
Organization: Informix Software

In article E9F@news.cso.uiuc.edu, thove@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (hove tom) writes:

>He also did a brilliant reading of that "Wizard of Oz" line, too:  "And you,
>Snake, I'll miss YOU most of all!" They gotta have him on more regularly.
>
>(If he can stay out of jail for a while . . . )

Well, he did say that if the Democrats get the presidency, he'll be back out on
the streets.

Stay tuned.

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From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: New season (9-24)!!!
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:05:18 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

I saw a commercial for the season premiere of ``The Simpsons''.
It will air on September 24 (at least in the U.S.).  The commercial
had something about Kamp Krusty.

"I'm gonna swim nekkid" -- Bart the naked swimmer

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From: og@access.digex.com (Gary Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Les Miserables referance
Organization: Personal Account - Digital Express Greenbelt, MD
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:43:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.165857.14091@gvl.unisys.com> schrey@prc.unisys.com writes:
>In article <18l8cbINN3hn@cs.widener.edu>, osa@orville.unh.edu (Bart Simps... er.. Oktay Ahiska) writes:
>|> 
>|> "Robert" == Robert G. Santos <simpsons@cs.widener.edu> writes:
>|> 
>|> Robert> Did anyone else notice that Sideshow Bob's prison number
>|> Robert> (24601) was the same as Jean Valjean's (sp?) in Les
>|> Robert> Miserables?
>|> 
>|> Yeah, we all did, but we didn't bother to post because it was too
>|> obvious.
>|> 

Geez, aren't WE elitist? If everyone who reads and posts to this forum
knew everthing about the Simpsons, wouldn't we have a whole lot to talk about?

"Did you see that ... Oh, you did." (Sigh)

"Wasn't that reference swell! ... umm, ok. You knew that." (ho-hum)

And I knew about the 'Les Miserables' reference because I read it here months
ago. If I didn't have an account then, I wouldn't know now.

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Info on 'The Simpsons'? Let me know.

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From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: SI Arrives...Somebody's Listening...
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:02:11

>The first house they Trick or Treat at is Flanders' and he gives them
>...
>
>
>..
>
>
>HOMEMADE LUTEFISK!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway 

PS I still don't like lutefisk.

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From: jimdean@bnr.ca (Jim Dean)
Subject: Re: Maggie's Voice
Originator: jimdean@bcrks81
Reply-To: jimdean@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:14:02 GMT


In article <1992Sep7.040446.29326@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) writes:
> In article <6SEP199222424510@venus.tamu.edu> ewm6965@venus.tamu.edu (The Guardian) writes:
> >In article <FHy1PB3w164w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca>, dave@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Dave
> >hall) writes...
> >>From what I've read, Maggie only says one word then goes back to being 
> >>(more or less) silent.  Much like what the two Darrals (sp?) did on the 
> >>last episode of NEWHART. 
> >
> >Ack!  Thpth!  I missed it.  What'd they say?
> 
> The two Darryls (sp?) said ``Shut up!!!'' to their talk-too-much
> newlywed wifes.

Nope. They said, er, yelled, "QUIET!"

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From: jcl@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (John C. Laviolette)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Soc Security Number theory
Date: 7 Sep 92 04:49:48 GMT
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

<1992Sep2.175201.22495@erg.sri.com> <1992Sep4.145424.1649@HQ.Ileaf.COM>
Followup-To: 
Distribution: US
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix, Sacramento, Ca.
Keywords: Social Security Number
 
 
   On the continuing Social Security Number debate, which everyone thought
was resolved:
 
    I just picked up Pankau's _Check It Out!_, a book on investigating
people and corporations, and it happens to repeat the SSN list posted here
earlier, as well as explaining the way the three groups of digits
(###-##-####) work.
    The FIRST group tells where the SSN holder's residence was at the time
it was issued, except for a few special groups (SE Asian refugees,
railroad retirees, &c.)
    The SECOND is assigned as a check for validity.
    The THIRD is assigned in no special order, except for the overriding
rule: NO GROUP CONTAINS ALL ZEROES.
    Someone else posted all this information before, I believe...
 
    It's been a while now, and I've forgotten the SSN in question.  The
first group was "214", but what was the rest?
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From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Maggie's Voice
Date: 7 Sep 92 04:04:46 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <6SEP199222424510@venus.tamu.edu> ewm6965@venus.tamu.edu (The Guardian) writes:
>In article <FHy1PB3w164w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca>, dave@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Dave
>hall) writes...
>>From what I've read, Maggie only says one word then goes back to being 
>>(more or less) silent.  Much like what the two Darrals (sp?) did on the 
>>last episode of NEWHART. 
>
>Ack!  Thpth!  I missed it.  What'd they say?

The two Darryls (sp?) said ``Shut up!!!'' to their talk-too-much
newlywed wifes.

ObSimp:  ``Baby to Marge... baby to Marge... wah!  Wah!'' -- Homer


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From: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: NEW SIMPSON NEIGHBORS
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS-UUCP

Well, there is a tentative season 4 episode called "New Kid On The
Block"... perhaps a new family does move into the neighborhood, perhaps
even next to OFF.
                                                                                                   
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From: jamey@nucleus.amd.com (Jamey Moss)
Subject: Re: what was that gold and treasure in the walls??
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:52:55 GMT

>On tonight's, 9/10's episode, when otto is staying with them near the end,
>the camera moves from one floor of their house to another, and in between
>is an unknown (?) stash of gold, gold bars... general wealth.  
>Has this been referred to before?  Or is it part of some satire?

A couple of seasons ago when the camera panned from one floor 
to the next, the walls contain asbesstos (sp), dynomite, and other
dangerous items.  I think its different everytime, or it at least 
changes every once in a while to throw in something new.

--Jamey



Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: schrey@oak.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Timothy M. Schreyer)
Subject: RE: NEW SIMPSON NEIGHBORS
Reply-To: schrey@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:33:07 GMT

In article <316.71.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess)  writes:
|> Well, there is a tentative season 4 episode called "New Kid On The
|> Block"... perhaps a new family does move into the neighborhood, perhaps
|> even next to OFF.
|>                                                                                                    
   Sounds to me that with a title like that, the dancing, singing Bartman
   may be getting a little competition!
       TIM
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From: pgleason@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Pat Gleason)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Misc DYN/FF #9 Update
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:43:42 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <1992Sep15.144357.9924@acd4.acd.com> jrc@IEDV4.acd.com ( Janis Clark ) writes:
>If anyone has a list of all the sentences that Bart has written on
>the blackboard  at the opening of "The Simpsons," could you please
>e-mail me a copy? It is my favorite part of the show.

Me too!  How about posting it?  Thanks!
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From: MXWA%Met%TES@encon01.encon.pge.COM
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: SI Arrives...Somebody's Listening...
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:27:36 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

Fall '92 _Simpsons Illustrated_ showed up in the PO Box today.  This issue's 
Simpsons comic is a Halloween one..."The Simpsons in Treat or Trick"

The first house they Trick or Treat at is Flanders' and he gives them ...


..


HOMEMADE LUTEFISK!

Wierd.  Is it a sign?

Mark
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: naran@fraser.sfu.ca (Travers Naran)
Subject: Art imitates Life? Simpson's Spinal Tap episode.
Keywords: spinal tap simpson
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:14:26 GMT

As I watched this episode these evening and saw the concert scene where Spinal
Tap walked off stage after one of the group gets injured due to a stage effect,
It began to look familiar. And when otto's friend asked whether they should
trash the stage or not and Otto says: "Sure, why not?" I just remember one
phrase:

	"The Montral Metallica/G&R Concert."

Is life imitating Art or the other way round? :-)

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From: ewm6965@venus.tamu.edu (The Guardian)
Subject: Re: political statement...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:36:00 GMT

In article <keaCsu200WBM81x79m@andrew.cmu.edu>, Kathryn Brennan <kb3i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>Last Thurday night (the last night of the Rep. Convention), I saw a news
>clip (one of those ads that tells you what's coming up on the 11:00
>news)  -- and it said something about an controversy/uproar over
>something on the Simpsons (which was related to politics -- the
>election?/Bush?/Clinton?)...  Of course, I didn't end up watching the
>news, so I never found out what it was about...
> 
>Does anyone know what they were referring to?

Bush said he wanted families to be "more like the Waltons and less like the 
Simpsons."  Bart later replied, "Hey, we're a lot like the Waltons.  We sit 
around a lot praying for the end of the Depression."

"Annoying Republicans since 1960"  -Matt Groening


As for the debate over Lisa's appearance, imagine if she'd kept the hairstyle 
she had as a baby...(Consult the Simpsons Family Album.)
From: ar2w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Adam K. Rixey)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: The Price is Right?
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:40:56 GMT
	<1992Sep4.131947.26052@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il>
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


	The price stays the same - I've watched episodes of all the seasons on
an editing deck with good frame-by-frame controls.

	You mentioned the couch and blackboard changing, but you forgot  Lisa's
jazz solo.  Starting last season, it's usually different every single
week.

	- AkR
	- ar2w@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: David Silverman
Date: 13 Sep 1992 00:36:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Has anyone ever heard David Silverman (supervising director of The
Simpsons) speak?  I'm asking because he's giving a talk at a local
campus and--get THIS--the talk is scheduled for 8 pm September 24.
Ha!  That's the same time, according to my info, the first 
Simpsons episode of the new season will air.  Impeccable timing,
eh?

(BTW, "local" for me is eastern NC--we don't exactly get a lot of
folks who're associated in any way with the production of OFF
hereabouts.)

Anyway, if Silverman's an incredibly amazing and wonderful speaker
I'd be a fool to miss, I'd appreciate it if someone'd let me know.
I'm having a hard time deciding whether to tape the show and go to
the talk (and miss out on the mystical buzz of watching while all
of y'all do--I mean, it IS the first show of the season) or to stay
home and try to concentrate on OFF while wondering what I'm missing
over at the Student Union.

I know.  I know.  "Get a life, weenie."

-Bucky "What a lame-o!" Whaley

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From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: political statement...
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:50:06 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: ewm6965@venus.tamu.edu's message of 6 Sep 92 18:36:00 GMT

> "Annoying Republicans since 1960"  -Matt Groening

=o= No, that's me, inspired by Matt.  Matt enjoys annoying
Republicans, and has said as much, but I don't know
how long he's been doing it.                              .-.  .-.
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From: madabhus@eng.umd.edu (Rajiv Madabhushi)
Subject: Ftp site query w/ apologies
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 16:48:40 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: madabhus@emc.eng.umd.edu


Sorry if this has been asked a zillion times, but could someone please
e-mail me any & all ftp sites with simpsons audio files for the sun/os
systems (sparc 2's)?  

Thanx.

Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Borrowed Ideas (was Re: I said, "things...)
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:59:47 GMT

og@access.digex.com (Gary Goldberg) wrote:
>I enjoy watching the show for the fun, but I also enjoy dissecting it. I thought that the producers would WANT us to analyze, else why go to all the trouble
>of making the shows so complicated, with the multiple movie references and the
>rich character development?

Perhaps you might considered borrowed ideas as easy comedy. A fresh idea takes
time to develop and sculpt. An idea that people are already familiar with
results in one-liners that are funny without an associated explanation (well,
they end up here anyway). I would rather see more original material than
stolen/borrowed ideas. The Simpsons have been around long enough and there is
enough of an original base that the weekly crutch isn't necessary.

Consider how many people post here that they didn't get a reference to something
(i.e. they didn't think it was funny) and you'll realize how much is borrowed.
Is that right or wrong? That's an opinion and it's probably irrelevant since
the show is successful. I think borrowed references are funny too, but I think
they are overused.

A reference such as "Principal Skinner threatens to flip the lights on and off
at school one day to quiet the kids" is funny because most kids can identify
with it. Jokes from other shows, I think, are less funny because they already
have mileage on them (you mileage may vary).

Flames aren't necessary since I'm making some observations and not downing the
show nor the people who like to pick it apart, but go ahead.

Tom Wilson (this is not a BORROWED cartoon reference!)
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: followup on Mystery Science Fiction Theater 3000 questions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:15:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.175021.17783@muddcs.claremont.edu> omitchel@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ocie *crow* Mitchell) writes:
>
>actually the show is "mystery Science Theater 3000' (mst3k), there is no
>fiction in the title.  Just a little point.

The 'F' stands for "Fnord".
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