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From: davids@c3.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:20:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.104346.20711@cbnews.cb.att.com>, yy@cbnews.cb.att.com (alan.j.lapenn) writes:
|> In article <92106.145510ASAHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, ASAHC@CUNYVM.BITNET (Asher Samuels) writes:
|> > My idea is that, whenever there's a crying kid, one free alcoholic drink
|> > should be served to everyone in earshot.
|> > I know that onTower, with all the kids, etc.  the only way I survive is to brin
|> >  along a flask of Jack Daniels.
|> 
|> Kids cry, being a parent it's our worst nightmare. There is nothing you can do 
|> about it. If it makes you feel any better we have all annoyed someone by crying
|> sometime in our life ( I do it constantly at work :-) :-) :-) , it works great )
|> 
|> -- 
|> Alan LaPenn      att!mvuxd!yy          .signature not found!

In fact, some of the MOST annoying animals on a flight are not the wailing
babies, but the folks doing the drinking (from their own flasks, or from
airline-provided stock.)  Amazing how many people fit the mold of "instant
a**hole, just add alcohol."

Just a thought, but if you have to bring along booze to "survive" a flight,
you might want to look at your alcohol use. (Shields up Mr. Sulu...)
-- 


David G. Simmons
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From: timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield)
Subject: Re: Long Flights. 
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 10:05:48 GMT

In article <rrcldINN8gm@agate.berkeley.edu> jtkohl@cs.Berkeley.EDU (John T Kohl) writes:
>In article <167C11199A.CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>
>> > What is the longest (timewise/distance)
>
>> Probably LAX - SYD nonstop on QANTAS or United Airlines.
>
>UAL schedule book (Jan 92) sez:
>
>LAX-SYD		7487 mi		14:35 gate to gate
>SYD-LAX				13:25 
>
>SFO-HKG		6914 mi		14:50 
>HKG-SFO				11:55
>

[rest deleted] 

Yep, you're right about SYD-LAX being one of the longest, if not THE longest,
it's about 14 hours each way - I did it last week. 14 hours is enough time for
2 movies, 2 or 3 meals, numerous snacks, a bit of sleep (if you're lucky) and
there's STILL plenty of time to get bored.

What I want to know is: for the SFO-HKG flight (which I presume means San Fran
to Hong Kong), why the 3-hour difference in flight time depending on which way
you're going ? Is it because the prevailing winds at high altitudes on the
flight path are particularly strong, and go from west to east ? Or is there
some other reason ?

Thanks guys ....

Tim Hatfield
timh@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
QANTAS - The World's Safest Airline !! [Which is why I flew UNITED to LAX !! :)]

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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Delta fleet (was: Delta 30 day Standby Airpass)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:23:40 GMT

In article <29EA825E.2145@ics.uci.edu> davida@ics.uci.edu (David Andersen) writes:
>
>For safety, almost all of the carriers are the same.  The leg room in
>some flights is less pleasing (they acquired a lot of L-1011's from
>Western air lines).

Western never flew L-1011s.  They had DC-10s.  Delta had it's own L-1011s
direct from Lockheed, plus has picked up a lot of second-hand ones.
(Including some which they modified to fly long-range).

Delta got rid of the DC-10s after taking over Western.  This was the
second time that Delta temporarily flew the DC-10---they also had a few
leased DC-10s when Lockheed couldn't deliver the L1011 on time (way back
in the early 70s).

RNA
From: pevans@lucy.umd.edu (Peter Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: looking for (cheap) 1 way ticket DC to melb, Australia
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:01:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

I am looking for a one-way ticket from Washington DC to Melbourne,
Australia in the month of July (1992).  In the past I have been able to
get return tickets for $1000 to $1300 but the quotes I have been given
for one-way fares are about the same.

If anyone has any ideas on getting such a ticket at a reasonable price
could you please send me some email.  

Thanks,
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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: Increasing FF milage
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:44:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.201816.24055@cs.ucla.edu> tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) writes:
>I was just thinking about something..my SO will be flying from 
>Milwaukee (MKE) to Los Angeles (LAX) next month, probably on Northwest
>, since that's where we have our FF miles.  A direct flight is available
>and would result in a credit of approximately 1800 miles.  In Northwest's
>World Perks FF club, they give you 750 miles for any flight of less than
>750 miles, so I was thinkng that if she had a stop over in Chicago,
>she would get credited with about the same number of miles for the
>ORD to LAX flight as the MKE to LAX flight, _and_ she would receive
>750 more miles for the 90 mile flight to O'Hare, for a total of about
>2550 miles.  For the inconvenience of a 1 hour stop-over and a plane
>change, she can increase the number of miles she earns by almost 40%.
>
>What does everyone think?  Is it worth it?  Any other suggestions on
>how to increase the milage awards?

Welcome to the obsessed world of gaining frequent flyer points.  Last year,
I flew 30K actual miles on NW, but received over 80K ff points...can you
say bonus miles?

Anyway, my friends think that I am crazy for flying routes like this:
OHare->Detroit->Wash Natl->Newark.  But I earned 1500 more miles roundtrip
than going ORD->DTW->Newark.  So you are not crazy by doing this.  Travel
agents and NW operators have called me looney...but they do allow it.  IT
was even better when NW was running double miles promo in and out of DCA.

Anyway, the fare is the same as long as you are still going in the same
direction.  So my triple hop is the same price as a double hop.  BUT, NW
will not let me go OHare to Minneapolis  then Minn back east without
charging me extra.  It has to be in the same "general" direction.

--Ken
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From: jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Polar flights
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date:  7 Apr 92 20:08:38 GMT

   The thread about longest air flights reminds me of another air travel
question that I've never found an answer to:  Are there any regularly
scheduled commercial airline flights that fly directly over the North
Pole?  Or the South Pole?  If not, which ones come closest?
--


Jon Corelis               jon@lindy.stanford.edu
Stanford University       BITNET:  BA.JYC@RLG.STANFORD.EDU
From: malexand@phakt.usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
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Subject: Re: Delta 30 day Standby Airpass
Date: 14 Apr 1992 12:43:59 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu
Keywords: delta

pas@cc.gatech.edu (Paulo Santos) writes:

>Do you get Frequent Flyer mileage when flying on these passes?

No.

Cheers,

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From: newton@atlas.stat.wisc.edu (Michael Newton)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Tell you something..
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:27:32 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

In article <13849@star.cs.vu.nl> bert@cs.vu.nl (Menting BL) writes:
>Hmm, anybody does know that travelling by air is very bad for the
>environment (one flight is as bad as a whole year travel by car)
>unless your a bird..
>
>By the way I type U now..


Thank you for this timely and perfectly accurate comment.  I, for one, can
offer as an excuse the fact that I don't own a car and travel everywhere
I don't travel by airplane by bus, bicycle or foot.  Mea culpa.  Etc....

Marianna Wright-Newton
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From: gl1@cec2.wustl.edu (Greg Lyon)
Subject: Re: More about BUMPS
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:11:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.134239.25174@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> jch@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (jeffrey.c.halle) writes:
>From article <1946@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, by ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host):
>> I was bumped on Continental when it was People's Express.
>That's pretty tough to do, since Continental never had anything to do with
>People Express.  Though in many ways they were similar.

Bzzt.  It may have been poorly worded, but Continental bought out Peoples
Express (and Frontier... and New York Air... And...)

Greg
From: bernward@rcc.de (Bernward Averwald)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:32:56 GMT
Organization: roka Computer Consult GmbH

In article <dunbar.702673016@beagle> dunbar@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Scott Dunbar) writes:
>I would have to say that another long flight is
>
>Paris to Papeete on UTA/Air France
>its 24,000 Kilometers Non Stop
>Which translates to 14,880 miles i believe
>
>wow long one
>
>scott
> 
>Scott\      /\/\  /|email: dunbar@boulder.colorado.edu
>  /***\  /\/*/**\/*|Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
> /  /\ \/**\/    \ |University of Colorado at Boulder, Boulder, CO  80309-0347

Not quite correct, there is a stop over in San Francisco.
Btw, UTA doesn't exist anymore, they are now part of Air France.

regards,

   Bernward


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From: toma@cray.com (Thomas R. Arneberg)
Subject: Re: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:45:10 CDT

In article <STEINAR.92Apr15152952@faust.solan.unit.no> steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf) writes:
>Glenn Host writes:
>>> In article <1992Apr11.033944.18218@odin.corp.sgi.com>, autry@sgi.com (Larry A\utry) writes:
>>
>>> And if you have a baby, take a pacifier.  If there's anything I don't need,
>>> it's four hours of "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!"
>
>How about a bottle with a fruit juice the kid likes in it?  S/He would
>probably be more motivated to suck on that than a plain old boring
>tasteless pacifier.

Wait a sec...if a kid needs to suck and you always make her DRINK something
instead of just sucking, this could lead to the dreaded SPIT UP (bad enough
at home; disastrous on a plane).

Believe me, I know from recent experience that a "plain old boring tasteless
pacifier" may be just fine!

  - Tom A.
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From: gaertner@cs.umn.edu (Peter M. Gaertner)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: AMEX coupons - how transferrable are they?
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:56:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr7.195613.10428
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In <1992Apr7.190035.687@reed.edu> terra@reed.edu (Terra Goodnight) writes:

>In article <1992Apr7.020013.27660@u.washington.edu> treon@milton.u.washington.edu (Treon Verdery) writes:
>>well, I got the $189 coupons from AMEX.  They have my name written
>>on them.  My question is, can I somehow buy a ticket for my girlfriend
>>with one of them so that we can go the same place for the same price?
>>
>>Note: the AMEX travel certificate says, "no", but I would be very interested
>>in people who have managed to do this anyway.  Is it really a problem?
>>
>>With both "treon"s travelling on the same plane at the same time, will
>>anyone get 'confused'?

>I had my friend in Portland buy me a ticket on her Amex for my rt from LAX-
>Portland-LAX.  We were worried the travel agent might wonder why a person IN
>Portland would need a RT TO Portland, but they didn't even question it.  I got
>the tickets & was afraid I'd be ID'd at the gate.  In fact, I was totally
>sweating it, 'cuz they ID'd the guy in front of me, but I think that's 'cuz he
>was paying for his ticket right then.  I had no problem either way, except the
>ulcer I got from worrying about it.  Her name is Katherine & I'm female, so I
>don't think it aroused much suspicion, but I'd suspect the same wouldn't be 
>true for male/female combinations.  I had a boyfriend once who bought a ticket
>from a girl named "Alexis".  I went up to the check-in counter for him, and 
>they didn't have a problem with me being "Alexis", so he flew just fine.  I'd
>recommend this if you're traveling on a female's ticket.  

I once shared an AMEX coupon (NWA) with a female. I bought the ticket and
only used my first initial on the reservation. She was able to use her
half no problem. I remember being carded only once I and that was during
the gulf war when they were carding every passenger.
-Peter
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From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Airport Codes
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 02:28:15 GMT

Some notes, additions, and clarifications to the airport code list
Canadian (and French) cities only

1) New names for old places:

Eskimo Point, Northwest Territories (NWT): YEK: is now Arviat
Grindstone Island, Que: YGR: is usually listed by airlines as Iles de
  la Madeleine
Frobisher Bay, NWT: YFB: is now Iqaluit
Fort Chimo, Que: YVP: is now Kuujjuaq

The old name is still used by some, but the preference is for the new
one.

2) Wrong province

Saint John, NB: YSJ: is listed as St. John, NS.  Not only is the
  province wrong, but official Canadian style is to spell out Saint in
  Saint John, NB, but not in St. Johns, Newfoundland (no ', but this
  is no firm rule)
Gilliam, Manitoba: YGX: listed as being in NWT, but Canadian Airlines
  says it is in Manitoba

3) Not listed probably because it's part of France, even though it's
in North America

St. Pierre, St. Pierre & Miquelon: FSP

4) Really, really small places not listed

Attawapisakt, Ont, YAT
Bonaventure, Que, YVB
Brochet, Man, YBT
Fort Albany, Ont, YFA
Harrington Harbour, Que, YHR
Kaschechewan, Ont, ZKE
Lac Brochet, Man, XLB
Leaf Rapids, Man, YLR
Port Menier, Que, YPN
Pukatawagan, Man, XPK
Rainbow Lake, AB, YOP
St. Augustin, Que, YIF
Shamattawa, Man, ZTM
South Indian Lake, Man, XSI
Whale Cove, NWT, YXN

5) A Couple of not so small places not listed

Bathurst, NB: ZBF
Kirkland Lake, Ontario: YKX

6) Some mis-spellings

Sioux Lookout, Ont (not Soiux)
Timmins, Ontario (not Timmons)
Goose Bay, Newfoundland and Labrador, is listed only as Goose, NF

7) Some multiple entries:

Montreal:  YUL is Montreal Dorval mostly domestic and US flights
           YMX is Montreal Mirabel International flights - miles
                                   outside Montreal itself - large
                                   white elephant project

Toronto:  YYZ Toronto Pearson - the main domestic/international
                                airport
          YKZ Toronto Buttonville - a suburan commuter airport
                                served by Canadian International's
                                commuter partner Canadian Partner
                                (which is actually Ontario Express)
          YTZ Toronto Island - downtown commuter airport served by
                               Air Canada's partner Air Ontario


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From: jfriedl@tubby.mach.cs.cmu.edu (Jeffrey E. F. Friedl)
Subject: Flights Through Hell (was Welcome/etc.)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 09:48:52 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon / Omron Corporation
Reply-To: jfriedl@cs.cmu.edu

|> 	Slightly more than 13 hours on the runway at O'Hare and then
|> 75 minutes of flying time to Washington National.  So total about
|> 14.25 hours for a flight which all together (runway/flying) should be
|> under 2.  This was March 21/22 1992.
|> 
|> 	It did also give us the enjoyable experience of landing at
|> Washington National at 4:10am on a Sunday.  National is usually closed
|> between the hours of 11pm and 6 (or 7?) AM.

In Jan '90 my girlfriend and I were to take a Korean Air flight from
Frankfurt to Soeul (refueling in Anchorage) and then on to Osaka.

First it was delayed 12 hours. We waited.
Then we flew to LA.  And waited.
Then to Honolulu.  And waited.
Then to Soeul.  We'd missed our flight to Osaka (by more than 24 hours)
but did make another after spending some time... (you gessed it!) waiting.

Not counting the initial 12-hour delay, the total was something like 33 hours.
Both in LA and Honolulu we had a crew change, but kept the same aircraft
and same smelly seats (sitting by the same smelly people).  The crew didn't
seem to understand why everyone was so F*****G (uh, excuse me) irritable.

Other than that, I can't blame KAL... Anchorage was closed due to some
pesky volcano.  For the wait in Frankfurt we each got about DM50 (US$33)
for food, which was pretty damn nice (especially for coach seats).

Previous to this point, I called my girlfriend ``sweetie-pie'', but for some
reason changed it in-flight to ``stinky-pie'' and have neglected to change
it back (much to her dismay! :-)

Even though I was lucky to not be alone for the ordeal, and even though
I've flown quite a bit (about 145,000 actual miles in '91) it was truely
my worst Flight Through Hell.

---

I've also taken United's LA->Sydney->Melbourne flight, but that was somewhat
the opposite.  I was going with two brothers and a sister for vacation and
we got bumped for a day (actually, we volunteered).  For this, United gave
us US$400 (each) and moved us into business class for the 14+ hour trip.
I normally fly business class, but my siblings almost never fly and were
totally psyched.

	*jeff*
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From: sfg2483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Shachar Frank )
Subject: Re: Chicago to London/Paris to Chicago 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:27:26 GMT

pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:

>schuyler@bagpipe.cis.ohio-state.edu (Carlton Schuyler) writes:

>>The cheapest flight I have ever got to Europe was on Iceland Air, from
>>New York through Reykjavik to Luxembourg. (or Luxemburg, depending).
>>Of course, this is ignoring the fact that you have to get from Chicago
>>to New York (I believe Boston was the same price).  It cost $330,
>>roundtrip.  That was three years ago, though.

> Icelandair does fly direct from Chicago to Reykjavik and then on to
> Luxemburg, or what ever other city you would like to connect to.  I

Not true any more. They have discontinued service to Chicago.

> did this in '87 and it wasn't too expensive.  My cheapest flight was
> last year on American.  It was $305 round trip Chicago-Brussels.  Of
> course that was because of the Gulf War.  I have seen round trip
> prices to Europe around $400 this year though.  Just keep your eyes
> open and you'll probably find one.  It might be getting to late though
> for the best fares for the summer.

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From: THAHARA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: AMEX and getting mail overseas
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 20:27:53 EDT

In article <1992Apr12.181938.895@leland.Stanford.EDU>
rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
 
>You can also receive your mail at AMEX offices overseas, or at least
>you used to be able to do so.
 
Yes, you still can (as of Dec.91).  This is one of the benefits that Visa/MC
cannot yet provide, and may be important to some people.  At the risk of
being repetitive, I would agree with those who say that "membership has its
privileges", but only for those few people who actually have use for those
unique services.  Certainly, if you do have The Card, you should make sure you
are aware of all the benefits, and extract your $55's worth.
 
Harsh Thaker
 
>RNA
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From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: Part 1 - N.America Airport Codes sorted by city.
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 02:05:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.172717.26848@odin.corp.sgi.com>, autry@sgistl.stlouis.sgi.com (Larry Autry) writes:
<
<With both thanks and apologies to Scott Horne.  I have sorted the codes
<that he posted by city.

No need for apologies; it's not my list.  :-)

<Note that Hawaii is also included.

Thanks.

<Puerto Rico
<and other Caribbean Islands are not.

We should correct that oversight.  By the way, do other countries (which?)
have standard airport codes; and, if so, are they internationally recognised?

<	char prio;          /* WMO Priority of station */
<	char wmo[6];        /* WMO Station Id if any */

What is this?

					--Scott

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From: rbutera@hawk.owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera)
Subject: Re: BUMPS / USAir
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:41:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.203436.10323@acsu.buffalo.edu>, AXLEROD@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (Harvey Axlerod) writes:
>  
>     QUESTION: Does anyone have some reasonably solid evidence as to the most
>               likely hub for a bump with USAir ?? (I can often route through
>               several hubs, and would like to know the odds.) The hubs I hit
>               most often are Logan (Boston), LaGuardia (NYC), Philadelphia
>               Cinci, and Pittsburgh.
>  

US Air's biggets eastern hub is Charlotte, NC. I've flown many flights from the
south and southwest to New England, and almost always went through there.
I believe Pittsburgh and BWI are also minor hubs for USAir as well.

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu

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