From: 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: season over for SDCNs?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:42:44 GMT

In <1992Oct06.232103.22841@watson.ibm.com> mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones) writes:

>In article <1992Oct6.215135.28474@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger "Ramjet" Maynard) writes:
>>I guess now that the regular season is over all the stathead types
>>are going to be turning their attentions elsewhere.  It is the larger
>>sample size of the regular season, after all, which determines the
>>"best" teams in baseball.  As we have been told, time and time again,
>>the short series tells us only which team is the "luckiest" and that
>>is surely nothing to get worked up over is it? 

>Yo! Rog! Been getting that message a bit garbled, I think! It's a bit of a
>logical jump from "short series don't prove which team is better" to "short
>seresi tells us only which team is the 'luckiest'", but you made it in a
>breeze, you old syllogistical kangaroo! Nice opening insult, too. A bit more

Not quite sure what you mean about the leap.  If the short series does not
prove which team is the best and it does not prove which team is the luckiest
what then does it prove?

>subtle than your usual. I'll have you know that as an STCN (that's "Tipsy";
>I haven't made it all the way to "Drunk" yet), I find your attitude pretty
>obnoxious. In fact, I do believe that one of the A's, Jays, Braves, and
>Pirates is the best team in baseball. I just don't believe that the LCS and
>the WS is going to tell us which one of them is *the* best. It *will* tell
>us that one of them is the champion, and that's plenty exciting for me.

Well if the Champions are not the best team and they are not the luckiest 
team what exactly are they?  The best team over a 7 game period?  Is that
more meaningful than being best over 162 games?  If not, what is all of
the excitement all about?

>>Are the 4 million fans that have paid to see the Jays all fools to 
>>want to see the Jays go all the way this year?  Shouldn't they just

>No, just you.

oooouuuuuuhhhhh!!!!

>>be satisfied to know that over the long haul their team tied for the
>>overall best record in the AL?  If the Jays should get "lucky" and

>If their team doesn't win the LCS or the WS, they should take a goodly
>amount of satisfaction from it. The Jays had a very good year, and they
>should be proud of it even if they get swept by the A's (which would
>surprise me greatly).

Blue Jay fans are damn tired of the "very good year".  It may seem arrogant
in Cleveland perhaps, but anything less than a WS appearance will be con-
sidered a failure by most Toronto fans.

>>actually win this year wouldn't the Canadian population just be
>>displaying their lack of knowledge of the essence of baseball if they
>>were to go nuts?  The big party should have happened after they won the
>>mini-pennant right?  Short series doesn't prove nothing does it?  
>>Frank Thomas won't be there.  Roger Clemens won't neither.

>So? Neither will Babe Ruth. What's your bloody point, Roger? Don't you have
>something better to do than stathead-baiting, so you can later whine about
>how they (we) insulted you? Well, here's something to while about: you're a
>small-minded, whiny, sniping, intentionally obnoxious, deliberatly obtuse,
>mathematically illiterate git! 

Doesn't that feel great?  And it's a lot cheaper than Valium isn't it?
BTW if you are going to call someone an illiterate git (I had to look
that one up) it might lend a bit to your credibility if you learned how
to spell.

>>Well guys, if the Blue Jays do go all the way and beat Atlanta and win
>>the whole thing and you still don't think that they are the "best" team
>>in baseball then who gives a rat's ass who the "best" team in baseball 
>>is?

>Quite a few of us, actually. We just don't give a rat's ass what you think
>about anything, any more.

You mean from now on, don't you?  After you have finished reading and 
answering my post?

>You know, in a way I'd like to see the Jays win the LCS and the Series with
>Jack Morris going a combined 0-5 with an ERA around 12, and Carter going
>about 1-43 with a couple of GIDP's. Let Manny Lee hit 3 HRs in the LCS and
>Kelly Gruber hit about .650 with 2 HRs in the Series. The stunned silence
>would be *wonderful*.

I wouldn't want to see anybody go 0-5 with an ERA around 12.  Nor I would
I wish a 1-43 on anybody, not even Rickey.  While Lee isn't likely to hit
3, most Blue Jay fans would say "it's about time" if Gruber came through in
the manner you suggest.

rm

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roger maynard                    
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