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From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Skyclad... info needed!
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:10:01 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

>Face it. Whether 20 million people like a group or not has nothing to do with
>whether or not they're any good. And lack of popularity has never stopped *me*
>from liking a band.

>Yours in Azazel,
>--Semhaza

Well, actually, seems like the more people that like a band, the worse they
are becuase they have sold out, right?  I dunno anymore..

					fluctuating daily on the whole
					sellout issue,

					the man
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: rjt@cs.nott.ac.uk (Richard Thomas)
Subject: Re: Skyclad... info needed!
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 16:04:29 GMT

In article <Bz2AGs.9sK@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson) writes:
>
>    I've been reading this and that about the band SkyClad, being
>compared somewhat to Manowar.  Would someone like to post some reviews,
>album lists, etc. about them.  I'm interested and may check them out.
>
>


Their first album was called "The wayward sons of mother Earth" and they have another one out
that I can't remember the name of.

Skyclad have to be just about the most original metal band since Celtic Frost. They play
thrash metal but with a violinist called Fritha. The band was formed by ex Sabbat vocalist
Martin Walkyier. The thing about him is that he looks and sings just like Ozzy Osbourne;
who knows... Skyclad, the next Black Sabbath?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: dalsten@iesd.auc.dk (Per Dalsten Soerensen)
Subject: Re: Marty Friedman's "Scenes"
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
	<Bz851K.1wr@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: 14 Dec 92 02:53:46


>>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:51:19 GMT, some unknown man djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu said:


The_man> veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV) writes:

>Marty Friedman (of Megadeth fame) has just released a solo effort....
>it is partially produced (and pretty heavily influenced in style) by
>Kitaro... I picked up the tape after hearing a friend's copy.
>Neither of us expected a 'composer' album... quite the difference
>from Megadeth's style... He enlisted Nick Menza on drums and Brian
>BecVar (Kitaro's keyboardist) on keys....  The whole album is *very*
>musically sound and beautiful to listen to... nice and relaxing....

The_man> Well, what does it sound like...is it like classical guitar,
The_man> or what.  Sorry, I have no idea who Kitaro is *blush*.  So if
The_man> you could give a general style assessment, that would be
The_man> cool.

Yes, maybe could somebody even compare it to Marty's first solo effort
'Dragons Kiss'?

I just wonder if this is just another example of a guitarist giving up
on good 'shredding', like Richie Kotzen and Tony MacAlpine, for
instance. Remember the difference between Kotzens first and 'Electric
Joy', and the difference between 'Edge of Insanity' and 'Eyes of the
World' by MacAlpine?  Well, to be fair to MacAlpine his latest
'Freedom to Fly' is way better than 'Eyes...'.

The_man> 							the man

-Per.

--
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  _/  _/      _/   _/    |       Per Dalsten      |    Dept. of Math & CS      
 _/_/_/      _/   _/     |   dalsten@iesd.auc.dk  |    Aalborg University
_/      _/  _/_/_/   _/  |                        |
From: andrewl@cs.anu.edu.au (Andrew Longhorn (Vac Scholar))
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Satriani Tour Where Now and NEXT?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 04:20:49 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, ANU, Australia
Distribution: world
Reply-To: andrewl@cs.anu.edu.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: barnard.anu.edu.au

Is Satch still touring USA? Does anyone know if and when he is planning a tour to OZ to
complement his awesome 5th album?

Satch fans unite, Joe wants world peace, let's give it to him.

Andy Roo

andrewl@cs.anu.edu.au
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Candlemass Quick Question (or two)
Date: 12 Dec 92 08:32:19 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <Bz4GrE.AEx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>Sitting here listening to Candlemass' "Tales of Creation", I am prompted to
>ask if their other albums are as good?  I have seen Doomis Metallicus
>whateverus and Candlemass live...are these good, better than Tales, do they
>sound good live, do they have anymore, etc etc etc.

	My opinion (which may or may not be shared with everyone else)
is that "Tales Of Creation", "Nightfall", and "Ancient Dreams" all
sound so similar to one another that they might just as well have 
released one very long album.  If you like "Tales" you should get
the other two.  "Epicus Doomicus Metallicus", their first, has a 
different vocalist, a rawer production, and (I think) much stronger 
and more diverse songs.  I think it's a classic.  The live one and 
the new one ("VI") I have not heard -- apparently they've gone slightly
off the doom path with "VI" (and there's a different vocalist on 
that one too).

>Was also wondering what other groups in this type of genre that could be
>recommended.  I guess you would call it Doom (they even do in the Album name
>Doomis Metallicus), but it is almost more gothic.  I have Cathedral, I have
>Skyclad, and  was wondering what else I may get...not that skyclad is like
>Candlemass, but you know...thanks

	Solitude Aeturnus's debut, "Into The Depths Of Sorrow" (or something
like that) is heavily Candlemass-influenced.  Old Trouble albums
(the first three, not the two Def American releases) fit in this mold
too ...

					Brian
-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU (Periscope)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Joe Satriani: Letterman, last night.
Date: 14 Dec 1992 05:16:18 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu

In article <92345.104855DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET>, Don Malzahn <DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>Anybody see Joe last night? During the opening theme I heard they had
>this guitarist guitar turned up more than usual. I said to myself, "SELF,
>I GOTTA find out who this guitarist is!". Was a pleasant surprise to learn
>it was Joe. I have several CDs of his and was hoping on seeing him in Chicago
>this month, but couldn't get anyone to go with me. Guess I don't know the right
>kind of people, eh?

Well, I taped the Letterman show, but haven't
had the chance to watch it yet.  He is going
to be on the TONIGHT SHOW on December 30th
if you are interested.

As far as not knowing the right people to
go with to a Satch concert -  Fuck it!  Go
by yourself and be amazed by the show, you
won't regret it!

Later.

-Scope

Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:5351 alt.rock-n-roll.metal:12395
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:00:54 -0500 
From: Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Get off his back
	<ByyuwM.Mnu@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

>Also, college radoio tends not to exactly play a
>whle lot of Entombed, local clubs around here play only "alternative/dance",
>and my local record store doesn't even stock half of the stuff I want to
>listen to, so I suppose I am screwed, eh?

Actually, the top record on rotation at the college station on this
campus is Cannibal Corpse's Tomb of the Mutilated. This is in front of
Sonic Youth, Mudhoney and all these other alternative bands. Before this
the top two albums in rotation were Deicide's Legion and Carcass' new
album whatever it is called. I must admit I don't like death metal too
much except for Obituary and don't listen to the college station because
of the annoying DJs and also I live off campus so I get very poor
reception when I try to listen to it but it really depends on the type
of college station since some play a bunch of very strange stuff indeed.


*******************************************************************************
******
"I got something to say, I killed your baby today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as it's dead
I got something to say. I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as she spread" -- The Misfits
"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
Guns N' Roses
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******
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Marty Friedman's "Scenes"
From: aesbl1ajm@dct.ac.uk
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:21:04 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec13.202419.25235@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV) writes:
> 
> 
> Marty Friedman (of Megadeth fame) has just released a solo effort.... it is
> partially produced (and pretty heavily influenced in style) by Kitaro... I
> picked up the tape after hearing a friend's copy.  Neither of us expected a
> 'composer' album... quite the difference from Megadeth's style... He enlisted
> Nick Menza on drums and Brian BecVar (Kitaro's keyboardist) on keys....  The
> whole album is *very* musically sound and beautiful to listen to... nice and
> relaxing....
> 
> -- KSV

If you think Marty was good on this album. check out some of the stuff he
recorded with Jason Becker in Cacophony.....
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis)
Subject: Re: PerGunt song's words
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:13:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.135034.298@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> meniconi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (carlo nicola meniconi) writes:
>I need the words of PerGunt song "All I want is rock'n'roll". If anyone
>knows this group from Finland and has the words, please send me.

Sorry I cannot help you with the lyrics (by the way it's spelled Peer Gunt,
with two dots on top of the u), but their lyrics are mostly quite silly
anyway (like any Finnish band that sings in english). They play quite
good Motorhead-like hard rock tho'. It's really surprising someone in 
Italy knows about them (are their albums available over there?).

                                -Maza

.
Yeah, I know the times are bad
When it's hard to run, nowhere to hide
All I got left is a bread and a bottle of wine
And I'm feeling fine...(Masters Of Reality/Gettin' High)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Re: Dream Theater: I was wrong.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:46:44 GMT

veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV) writes:


>	You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but you're missing out on a
>*GREAT* album.... (DT's Images & Words)  What was it exactly that you didn't
>like about the vocalist?


Hmm...I think there were two things I didn;t like about the vocalist.  I
think it was the high pitched-ness of his voice (if I remember correctly).  I
like some high-pitched singers, but this one just didn't catch my ear.  I
think it seemed to me to be too much like a lot of other vocalists too.  I
dunno, I only saw it once, and it was DEFINITELY one of the better
songs/videos of the night, but I dunno if it is my cup o' tea.  Perhaps it
would grow on me though...wouldn't doubt it.  I think I say I dunno a lot :)
Anyway, i guess it didn't strike me....but my neighbor liked it :)

					glad to be sharing opinions, not
					insults,

					the man
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Selling out
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:41:24 GMT


	Seeing as the subject of bands that have sold out has popped up once
more (thanx Pope!), I thought it would be appropriate to post the lyrics from
"Stabbed In The Back", a great song by one of my favourite bands, Razor.  Not
too many people are aware of them, as they're Canadian, and American exposure
is tough to get for Canucks (which is the subject of another of their tunes,
American Luck!).  In any case, read the lyrics and tell me what you think.

Stabbed In The Back
===================

The metal scene has gone to piss
Boneheads lead the way
Playing fast because it's in
And then they go away
Instead of kicking major butt
They start to slow it down
Bringing back the 70's
I hate these fucking clowns

You sold us out without a doubt
You changed your future plans
You played the game you've got your fame
And your phony fans

The pinhead movement loves their songs
These bands can do no wrong
And then they come to me and say
"Why can't YOU write good songs?"
I hate to be so arrogant
Don't like to call them names
But money is their only goal
My songs remain the same

All the bands I used to like are going down the drain
What the hell has happened here, have they gone insane?
I used to think that heavy bands ignored the current trends
But once they've been in Rolling Stone you learn about your friends

They never sound the same again, they claim that they progress
But I just think it's writer's slump that wins them their success
The majors spend big money, the audience is blind
While Razor plays it heavier and leaves the scum behind

We've all been stabbed in the back



	I think that pretty much sums up a lot of people's sentiments about the
whole thing.  If this song piques your curiosity, pick up their Shotgun Justice
album (1989) or better yet, their latest release, Open Hostility.  I must warn
you, their album covers are low-budget and cheesy, but you know what they say
about judging a book by its cover ...

Society our enemy, the rules which we must fight ...
						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
                                                     __   __            
                                                    /  `-' /          ,,
                                                    |[====|||||||||||[::}
                                                    \__.-._\          ``
From: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU (Periscope)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: HELMET in bus accident???
Date: 15 Dec 1992 06:47:39 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu

Well, I was all set for the MINISTRY/HELMET/SEPULTURA show tonight, but
something happened to HELMET.  Instead of HELMET, STONE TEMPLE PILOTS opened
instead.  Disappointing, IMO.

During STP's set, the lead singer said that HELMET had been involved in a bus
accident.  Does anyone out have any details or heard what happened??

The rest of the show was great, but it's too bad that HELMET didn't play. :(

-Scope
From: schandr@eos.ncsu.edu (SUMIT  CHANDRA)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Samson/Iron Maiden/Killers
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:34:58 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos

In article <105316@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
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Dude,

This looks cool as shit.  I especially like the braces effect at the head.

Sumit
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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Annihilator question...
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:49:16 GMT

In article <Bz4psI.E4B@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>Hullo, fans,
>
>  I have never heard Annihilator, and was wondering if someone could give me
>  a frame of reference.  are they any good, what is their best, etc. what do
>  they sound like, who could you compare them to, etc.  Thanks all...
>
>							the man
To my knowledge, they've had three major recordings and a few singles:
	PHANTASMAGORIA	(ep)
	ALICE IN HELL (CD)
	NEVER, NEVERLAND (CD)
couple stuff ended up on MTV, like "Allison Hell," "Stonewall. and "The Fun 
Palace." 

Jeff Waters is the composer and band leader, and they've had a bunch of lineup
changes over and over. (Waters is also one of the guitarists). From Canada,I
think on the west part.

How do they sound? I don't have ALICE IN HELL, but the singer on NEVER NEVER
reminds me a bit of Paul DI'anno. They are very tight rhythmically, and I
hear a bit of old old Iron Maiden here and there. Songs vary from dark kinds
of mass genocide / destruction stuff to social topics like environment,
some cool stories about people with mental problems (according to the liner
notes Jeff Waters likes stories about psychos).

I' about to be logged out, but I'll conclude with my opinion that they are
a great band to listen to if you like classically oriented stuff and Paul
Di'anno.

philip


Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Metal Quiz
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:27:12 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


	Well, someone else posted one of these quizzes offering a CD to
the one answering the most correctly.  Well, I didn't think it was really
representative of alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy .  So, I have composed a
very large quiz that I think manages to cover at least something for
everyone.  I have no prize to offer, but I will post results and scores
next week.  Please respond by e-mail.  Good Luck.

Name the artist(s) and the song quoted below:

1.  "...Never easy, never clean, to be a Beast among human sheep..."

2.  "...The rich became the beggar and the fool became the wise..."

3.  "...Hybrid children watch the sea, pray for Father roaming free..."

4.  "...They call us problem child, we spend our life on trial..."

5.  "...Death and Darkness are rushing forward to take a bite from the wall..."

6.  "...Tears fall, but why am I crying?..."       

7.  "...Sit here on the steps, cuz' I'd rather be alone..."

8.  "...The pain, the pleasure, filled with animal lust..."

9.  "...Hack the heads off of little girls and put 'em on my wall..."

10.   "...Got to write another letter..."

11.   "...The battle of minds, the riddles, the rhymes..."

12.   "...Beware the beast in black..."

13.   "...Got a '65 Chevy with primered flames..."

14.   "...Our ancestors' blood in battle they've shed..."

15.   "...Burning, death, destruction, raping the daughters and the wives..."

16.   "...Like a drifter, I was born to walk alone..."

17.   "...We unleashed a tiger..."

18.   "...OH MY GOD!  It's Johnny!  Hanging by his neck!..."

19.   "...Don't talk to me, talk to Nick, talk to Nick!..."

20.   "...Terminal?  What disease?  A second opinion's what I need!..."

	5 pts. Each  Scored as follows (liberal smileys):

			100 pts. - Metal God
			 80 pts. - Phantom Lord
			 60 pts. - Evil Thing
			 40 pts. - Drifter
			 20 pts. - Stranger in a Strange Land
   			 10 pts. or less - Why'dya Bother?



							Raythrax
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Newer Black Sabbath
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:35:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.033153.24459@news.acns.nwu.edu> autopsy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gregory Baumgartel) writes:
>In article <1992Dec8.165218.5532@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>>
>>So which album is Ray singing on? Headless Cross? He did one album with the
>>band and then split to form Badlands with Jake E. Lee.
>>
>>And I agree that they both sound like they were raised on Paul Rodgers, and
>>maybe a little James Dewar.
>>
>>					--Judex--
>>.
>Well, Headless Cross is Martin.  I'm curious to know who sang on "Born Again"
>and "Seventh Star".  Anyone??
>
>Autopsy
>

Ian Gillan from Deep Purple sang on "Born Again"
Glenn Hughes <from the Coverdale era of Deep Purple> sang on "7th Star"

Could swear Martin only did two albums with Sabbath, and one of them is
"Tyr". So which came after "7th Star"? Headless Cross?

					--Judex--
From: mech14017020@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Dream Theater: I was wrong.
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:33:39 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

Okay, okay. I can admit when I'm wrong. I saw Dream Theater's video last
night on Headgiver's Ball. It was great! It was called 'Pull Me Under' off
Images and Words. I guess the album I have of them was just an early effort
that didn't quite work out the way they wanted it to. I loved the heavy
gee-tar, and the keyboards actually complimented the music instead of sounding
stupid like they do in that early album I have. Let it be known that I WILL
get this album. 
		
		Troy
--I told you so!
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: found the Archer brothers!
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:31:42 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

I posted the original article concerning a NWOBHM band called Stampede which
at one time had Lawrence and Reuben Archer in its lineup. Thanks to you people
who responded. I also found in my collection a track called "Mean Gasoline"
by another NWOBHM band Lautrec, also with both Archer brothers. I don't know
much about Lautrec, but they remind me a lot of a mix between Savage, Bashful
Alley, and Crucifixion. Don't know if any of these names mean anything to you,
but that's who they remind me of.

philip



Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926)
Subject: Re: Newer Black Sabbath
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:27:58 GMT

In article <Bz00xI.DL@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (HAVE YOU HAD YOUR SPAM TODAY?) writes:
> In article <ByzvDF.M35@math.uwaterloo.ca>, amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes...
>>In article <1992Dec9.033153.24459@news.acns.nwu.edu> autopsy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gregory Baumgartel) writes:
>>	Born Again had Ian Gillan (of Deep Purple fame), Seventh Star featured
>>Glen Hughes.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   Glen Hughes is also of Deep Purple fame.He played bass on the last couple
> of albums.He also was in the Butterfly Ball(??). He sang the Bat.
> It was a cool song for a childrens album.

Wel he did not play bass on the last couple of Deep Purple 
albums. These featured Roger Glover again. But you mean the
Mark III & IV albums. These are not the last since the Mark II 
reunion and the one with Joe Lynn Turner.

    Mike
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