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From: ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: SUGGESTION FOR WORLD CUP GAMES ENDING IN TIES
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:53:13 GMT
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan

In article <1993Jan9.014529.21612@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> RICHARD G. JOHNSTON writes:
  The penalty kick procedure used to end tie games during the World Cup is, in
  my opinion, a poor solution to the problem. Here is my alternative to breaking
  ties. At the end of regulation make both sides play with only nine players for
  some period of time, maybe 10 minutes. If the game is still tied 1 more player
  would be pulled from each side every five or ten minutes. With such an
  approach at least the game would be determined on the field. Anyone who has
  played soccer realizes fewer players on the same size pitch opens up the game.
  previous
  World Cup had too many teams trying to play to play to a scoreless tie in
  order to take their chances with penalty kicks. Any other alterantives?

Who would you consider pulling out first, the goalkeeper, the forward, the
referee?

Tsiel

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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: WC Qualifier Result Wanted (Cyp v Bel)
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:44:00 GMT
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association

andries@slc10 (Marc Andries) writes:

>rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
>>gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson) writes:
>>
>>>I've been out of touch with r.s.s. for a while ... could someone fill me in on
>>>the result of the Cyprus-Belgium WC94 qualifier held, supposedly, on the 2nd?
>>>Thanks in advance ...
>>
>>The game has, to the best of my knowledge, not been played. I don't why, nor
>>do I have any idea when it's going to be played.

>This confusion is due to a typo in some american Soccer Magazine.
>The match is (and has always been) scheduled for February 14th.

List were distributed internationally showing a fixture of January 2nd.
My list, that I got from a Danish newspaper, shows that date.
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From: gwreich@athena.mit.edu (Greg Reich)
Subject: Re: SUGGESTION FOR WORLD CUP GAMES ENDING IN TIES
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:49:25 GMT

In article <9JAN199317042225@rosie.uh.edu>, math1pu@rosie.uh.edu (Douglas Y. Luo) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan9.211750.2805@dragon.acadiau.ca>, 900707h@dragon.acadiau.ca (Swarajsingh Horree) writes...
|> >074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes:
|> > 
|> >>In article <1993Jan9.014529.21612@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
|> >>rgj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (RICHARD G. JOHNSTON) writes:
|> >> 
|> >>>The penalty kick procedure used to end tie games during the World Cup is, in
|> >>>my opinion, a poor solution to the problem...........
|> ..........................................................................
|> >> 
|> >>A most brilliant suggestion !!!!
|> >>'-----------------------------------------------------------------------'
|> > 
|> > What if the game is still tied till only the two goalkeepers are
|> > left on the field?
|> 
|> Then let them box.
|> 
|> Seriously, I would like to see some change on this myself. Johnston's
|> idea is good, but not complete. Even if it were, it is unlikely that FIFA
|> will listen to this. What do you all think?
|> 
|> Doug Luo
|> 
|> SOMETIMES I THINK I LEARN MORE IF I CLOSE ALL MY BOOKS.
|> 
|> 

I once played a 7-a-side tournament at U. of Georgia (Chris?) where this was
the overtime tiebreaker.  What a great way to go.  It ended up 2 v. 2 before
one team was able to score ( FYI, Chris, it was Berry vs. "Wings", mostly old
Lovett players).

Greg


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gwreich@athena.mit.edu				Billy Joel
From: ebroom@amethyst.axion.bt.co.uk (Ed Broom)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Easy quiz answers required
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:33:26 GMT
Reply-To: ebroom@axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Labs
Organisation: BT Laboratories, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH UK

Could anybody out there help me out with the following questions:

Which football teams have the following club songs?

1. Goodnight Irene
2. Keep Right On To The End Of The Road
3. The Eton Boating Song

Answers gratefully received by e-mail, thank you.

Ed Broom

..but smart old Blue he took the Milky Way.
From: jimh@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Liverpool - my boys!
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:16:39 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620


In article <7107@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, morphet@cguhpa.cgu.mcc.ac.uk (Helen Morphet) writes:
> This Saturday sees the opportunity for my boys to reek their revenge on those
> so-called champions-in-waiting, the Villa. And I shall be there myself, only
> the second time I have seen the lads in action. The last was the game at Villa
> Park, and what a disaster that was ....
> 
> So, stuff the Villa, lads!
> 
> And, yes, we will be in the Premier League for all time. I can't understand
> all this hatred aimed towards my boys. Surely jealousy?

Oh dear oh dear! Stuff the Villa hey? Don't get greedy now & set your sights
too high, stick to teams you can manage, like Bolton (perhaps?) at Anfield
on Wednesday! And as for Souness, you, along with king of the ARSEholes 
George Graham, are more of a HOPELESS JOKE than Alex-"shite-for-brains"
-Ferguson! Shankly will be turning in his grave at the mess ol' Sour-puss
is creating there. But having said all this all I've got to say is -

GOOD ON YA MATE - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
                                        Jim lad
From: wbg@festival.ed.ac.uk (W Geake)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Why Liverpool????
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:46:51 GMT

esp@meiko.co.uk writes:


>John Bell wrote:

>>..........................................And as for all this bollocks about
>> supporting your local side, i do. I live 17 miles from dundee and indeed
>> support the super dees. I have been to over 250 matches in the last few years
>> Who the hell do you support then?
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Bristol Rovers!! Not a big team, never won any major cups, probably never will. But who knows, with Malcolm Allison at the helm and money in the bank..........

>One of the few league teams whose home ground is outside the city they're named after. (Twerton Park in Bath).

>If your interested and have access to Sky Sports Channel, our FA Cup 3rd Rnd reply against Aston Villa, is live next Wednesday!!! Wow our first game to be broadcast live to the nation!!! Trip to the bathroom stuff........??? 

>Up The Gas!!

>Steve

>ps Why did it take my posting for you to include Dundee in your .sig??? Or did I miss it before?

>   
You are not alone...I look for the Rovers scores despite living where I
do, simply because I was brought up in Bath, and Rovers will always
supply what football watchers want...flirtations with relegation
(often), insolvency, homelessness, and, dare I say it, promotion.  Some
fool in a broadsheet newspaper tipped the club for promotion this
year... survival will be the name of the game until the new ground is
built and the crowds increase.  As they will have then moved from Bath,
I'll stop following them (and I'm buggered if I'll follow Bath City, so
I'll stick with the best supported game in Bath - now there's no debate
about the best rugby club in the world, is there?).
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From: andries@slc10 (Marc Andries)
Subject: Re: WC Qualifier Result Wanted (Cyp v Bel)
Organization: Department Of Mathematics and Computer Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:40:11 GMT

rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
>andries@slc10 (Marc Andries) writes:
>
>>rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
>>>gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson) writes:
>>>
>>>>I've been out of touch with r.s.s. for a while ... could someone fill me in on
>>>>the result of the Cyprus-Belgium WC94 qualifier held, supposedly, on the 2nd?
>>>>Thanks in advance ...
>>>
>>>The game has, to the best of my knowledge, not been played. I don't why, nor
>>>do I have any idea when it's going to be played.
>
>>This confusion is due to a typo in some american Soccer Magazine.
>>The match is (and has always been) scheduled for February 14th.
>
>List were distributed internationally showing a fixture of January 2nd.
>My list, that I got from a Danish newspaper, shows that date.

If you're so sure that your Danish newspaper know better than my Belgian one,
why don't you post the result then 8-) ?

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From: rbualuan@cordelia.next.nd.edu (Ramzi Bualuan)
Subject: stupid predictions
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:35:52 GMT


Why do so many people spend so much time on futile amd meaningless  
predictions?  It's a total waste of time and space.  Let's keep this  
newsgroup for the sharing of real information.
From: cep@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: World Cup hosts
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:12:26 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University

Has anybody noticed the pattern in countries hosting the World Cup since
1958?

1958 Sweden
1962 Chile
1966 England
1970 Mexico
1974 West Germay
1978 Argentina
1982 Spain
1986 Mexico
1990 Italy
1994 USA
1998 France

Is it a rule that the competition crosses the Atlantic every 4 years or just
an unwritten convention? Given the above pattern, who would you expect to be
the hosts in 2002 and 2006?

2002 Brazil?
2006 England?

Comments as always...

Charlie
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From: motta@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nazare Motta)
Subject: SOCCER NEWSGROUP
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 18:42:11 GMT

Hey guys,
Does anybody there is interested in spliting this newsgroup in two? 
Something like "Rec.soccer.England" and "Rec.soccer.rest of the world"?
Nothing against English soccer, really! Just tired of hiting the kill
file key.
Could someone, please, post the Italian results more often? How about South
America soccer for a change? Or even the rest of Europe? 
Nana

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Nazare Motta           Motta@leland.stanford.edu OR Motta@Hoover.Bitnet
Hoover Inst.Library
Stanford Ca
U.S.A.

A REAL BITCH ALLWAYS TELL WHAT SHE THINKS

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From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: What is "parrying" the ball?
Date: 12 Jan 93 04:07:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.9301121607.AA20790
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

--------------------------
"no parrying the ball."  What does that mean?  No one on my team seems to
--------------------------
Good question.

Damn good question.

I'm not sure I can answer it, but I'll try.

Parrying is like art. Hard to define, but you know it when you see it.

Parrying is deflecting the ball. The laws of the game do not allow a keeper 
to parry the ball and then pick it up, unless he was blocking a shot and it 
bounced off of his arms/hands/etc...

Check with the rules people for your tournament. I don't think parrying is 
dissalowed, but if the keeper then picks up the ball (after a parry) the 
penalty is an indirect free kick at that spot.

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
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From: waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach)
Subject: Re: World Cup hosts
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:54:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.191226.8171@cs.nott.ac.uk> cep@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce) writes:
>Has anybody noticed the pattern in countries hosting the World Cup since
>1958?
>
>1958 Sweden
>1962 Chile
>1966 England
>1970 Mexico
>1974 West Germay
>1978 Argentina
>1982 Spain
>1986 Mexico
>1990 Italy
>1994 USA
>1998 France
>
>Is it a rule that the competition crosses the Atlantic every 4 years or just
>an unwritten convention? Given the above pattern, who would you expect to be
>the hosts in 2002 and 2006?
>
>2002 Brazil?

Unrealistic goal for the Brasilians currently considering the state of their
economy, and the never ending turmoil between the federation
and domestic football. 

Japan is the favorite for this one after the FIFA delegation were impressed
with the stadia present in Japan.

>2006 England?

England don't have the proper facilities. I think only Wembley
is up to World Cup standards at the moment. Alot of stadiums in
England still have standing sections, and until they become all-seaters,
FIFA won't consider England for WC bids. 

-Dave
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Subject: Re: Liverpool - my boys!
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:14:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.182423.2660@dct.ac.uk>, mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
> jealousy?
> 
> of what?
> 
> i bet fans of Chelsea really wish that:
> 
> they could lose 1-5 at coventry
>                 2-4 at villa
>                 and various other fearful gubbings

Nope - been there, done all of that and just to remind us of how easy it is
we've been gubbed by Palace in the League Cup :-(.

Alan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: juparra@gel.ulaval.ca (Juan Parra)
Subject: Re: My solution for tied games
  
Reply-To: juparra@gel.ulaval.ca
Organization: Dept. Genie Electrique, Universite Laval
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:03:58 GMT

 >My suggestion is the following:
>
>	If the match is still tied after 90 minutes, go to supplementary time,
>	say two 10 minute halfs, the game should stop if any of the teams 
>	score during this time.
 

Yes, sudden death should put more pression for the teams to win.

What if the teams remain tied, then I would give 0 points to both.

It's kind of radical but i'ts for the sake of the game.

Juan Manuel 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: bjpc@engin.umich.edu (Brian Jeffrey Cook)
Subject: need help with internet address for .net!!!!
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 12:05:47 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

 i am having problems with this net.
is there an internet address for which someone like me
can post on this net.
i thought it was:

rec-sport-soccer@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

am i imagining things or am i sane??
any help would be appreciated.....

-bjpc

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Subject: Re: Just another example of the 'fabulous' English
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:55:27 GMT


>>>>> "Mischa" == Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl)

Mischa> Nowhere in Europe the (real) top-teams make a laugh of
Mischa> themselves in that way. They just win with 3 or 4 goals
Mischa> difference, just because they ARE top-teams!

Did you happen to follow the German Cup last year? 

The unpredictable nature of the game is part of the fun. If the
so-called top team won every game, if games where always won by the
team having the most famous players, well, then we could just leave
the hold thing to a quite simple computer simulation.

Mischa> What if Forrest relegates this season? Will Pearce still play
Mischa> for them in the first division? And will he then still be
Mischa> captain (or even player) for the national team? I don't think
Mischa> that would happen if something like that happened here. If a
Mischa> player plays for a lower-regions team here, he isn't selected
Mischa> at all for the Dutch team. Any comments about that strange
Mischa> situation?

Danish national team captain Lars Olsen plays for a second division
team. Yeah, he's past his prime, but I expect it to be some time yet
before he's replaced.

/Lars
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CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
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From: hoekema@fwi.uva.nl (Eelco Hoekema)
Subject: Re: Just another example of the 'fabulous' English
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:55:30 GMT

mehta@watson.bms.com (Pradhyuman Mehta) writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.102553.9177@fwi.uva.nl>, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes...
>>Another remarkable thing I noticed: Stuart Pearce, the captain of the English
>>national team, plays for Nottingham Forrest. I grabbed my Voetbal International
>>from somewhere and looked for the English standings and yes... Forrest 
>>firmly occupy the last position in the Premier League. That's a strange thing,
>>I think. What if Forrest relegates this season? Will Pearce still play for them
>>in the first division? And will he then still be captain (or even player) for
>>the national team? I don't think that would happen if something like that
>>happened here. If a player plays for a lower-regions team here, he isn't
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>selected at all for the Dutch team. Any comments about that strange situation?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>    Well if they did, Holland may have won a world cup :-)

Trust me, we will!

>Cheers,

>Prej Mehta (mehta@bms.com)

mazzel..
eelco
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From: csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: QUESTIONS ---- Please help
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:57:23 GMT
Expires: 31 Dec 69 23:59:59 GMT
Reply-To: csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland


Some more questions.Please email the answers you know to me:csfraw@vehka.uta.fi
( reasonable guesses are welcome )

***************************************************************************

4) Which premier league player has played the most games in Division 1.

22) All four, during their playing career, played for the same team. Then they
    all left to work overseas. Each of them managed his club to win the clubs
    national league. Name the four managers, their clubs, and the year this 
    happened.

23) In 1982 the English Under-18 national team played a 2-leg european cup
    qualifying matches against Scotland. The English line-up was as follows

	game 1: Francis, Yallop, Winterburn, Singleton, (Lewis),Elliott, Robson
		Snodin,Dey,Foster,Harle(Stewart),Walters

	game 2: Francis, Parker, Pickering, Duffield, Elliott, Robson,Singleton
		Steven(Bell), Pearson, Walters, Childs.

    Which of these players have since then played in the National team "adults"


11) Gary Lineker didn't succeed in doing it last year ('92), but others were 
    successful. Who were those ?


12) Name the league players who took part in the Barcelona olympic games

   ( i think the names of some USA/Australian/Polish under-23 players in the 
     league will do )


14) Darren Roberts of Wolverhamption scored a hattrick when playing for the
    first time  in the starting lineup in the english league. Who managed to do
    the same before him?

18) Which country's national team manager played 67 league games - all for 
    Reading FC ?

20) Name the former English international, who got the most yellow cards 
    (warnings ) last season ???

21)  Which incident links Steve Nicol to  Graham Ricks ?


24) Who is this player ? He plays for the same country and the same club as his
    grandfather did 40 years ago.


thanks
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gallows
     Opinions are like assholes;
     Everybody has one but nobody wants to look at the others.
From: cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: BBC (was the EBC)
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:25:12 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1993Jan11.114324.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> 
> 
> PS We dont really want that plonker David Mellor as a Rnagers fan as he
> admitted on Radio 5>
                                        +
> Sandy Mackinnon,                       + 
> At the Cutting Edge of Fuel Science,   + 
> University of Strathclyde,             +      cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk 
> Glasgow,                               + 
> Scotland.                              +  
> 	  	                       +
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

He keeps very good company, does he not?  Brian Meek (tory), Alan Massie
(tory), Andy and Alec Cameron (comedians), Mr Abie and Ben Gunn (comedians!),
Ian Botham (tory), Scottish Office tories who scuppered the Hampden
redevelopment in union with the powers at Ibrox, the Sun journalists
(comedians) who set up the not so successful venture into paperdom with Mr
Murray, the Carnegie Partnership, ill-mannered"fat-cats" referred to recently
who probably all vote tory, Mrs Thatcher, nearly all Scottish tories and Wet,
Wet, Wet.  Additions welcome;-).

Chris
aka Sean Almosttotallysubmerged
From: spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: FA Trophy draw
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:56:03 GMT
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

Could someone please post the draw for the FA Trophy 2nd round?
(or at least let me know who Enfield will be playing).

Thanks.
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From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Subject: English Premier League results
Keywords: Sat Jan 9th
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:17:00 GMT

From the BBC World Service:

Premier Division
----------------
ARSENAL     1-1 SHEFFIELD UNITED
(another ridiculus result for The Gunners. Littlejohn equalized for Sheffield
 3 minutes from time. Surely all hopes for the title are gone for Arsenal.)

MAN UNITED  4-1 TOTTENHAM
(at least Spurs get a gubbing)

LEEDS       2-1 SOUTHAMPTON

CR PALACE   0-2 EVERTON

MIDDLESBORO 0-1 QPR

CHELSEA     2-4 MAN CITY

IPSWICH     1-2 OLDHAM
(Ipswich lose their unbeaten record at home)

COVENTRY    0-1 NOTTM FOREST
(Ian Woan gave Forest the valuable points in the 70th min)

BLACKBURN   0-0 WIMBLEDON

LIVERPOOL   1-2 ASTON VILLA
(John Barnes gave Liverpool a half-time lead. Goals by Gary Parker after 55mins
 and [fitting enough] Dean Saunders after 65mins ensured that Villa made the
 double over Liverpool this year).

SHEFF WED    -  NORWICH   
(to be played Sunday)

Top Six
-------
                   P  W  D  L  F  A PTS
 1 Man Utd        23 11  8  4 34 18 41
 2 Norwich City   22 12  5  5 34 34 41
 3 Aston Villa    23 11  8  4 34 25 41
 4 Blackburn R    23 10  8  5 34 20 38
 5 Ipswich Town   23  8 12  3 32 25 36
 6 QPR            22 10  5  7 31 25 35


Some First Division results
---------------------------
Grimsby    2-0 Bristol R
Brentford  1-3 Leicester
Bristol C  1-2 Newcastle
Oxford     0-1 Swindon
Notts C    1-2 Millwall
Sunderland 3-3 Cambridge
Watford    3-1 Wolves

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