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From: dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:39:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.232900.5815@jack.sns.com> steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) writes:
>
>Bottom line, as long as people are silly enough to pay there will be a
> market for
>it. THAT, is supply and demand.
>
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A "UUCP feed" is not a monolithic item with only one definition.
There are level of service considerations.  Example: some people
have their PC on a maintenance contract, some don't.  The one 
"without" thinks that the one "with" is wasting money, since the 
one "without" can easily order parts and fix his own in a day or 
two.  The one "with" can't understand how the one "without"
could be without the contract and accept the possibility of days
of downtime.  Neither of them is wrong; their situations are 
just very different.

For some people, a free UUCP feed from someone with a system in
their house is the right thing.  It is free, and reasonably 
reliable.  The person may not be around in the middle of the 
day to fix the system if it crashes, may not have onsite spares 
or a service contract on the machine, may not have an UPS on the
machine in case power drops, may not do a backup of the user
partitions each day, may not guarantee that there will be no
busy time on the dialins.  These things will vary.  For nearly
any combinations of these things, there will be users for whom
this is the Right Thing.

For some people, a "fee" UUCP is right, because they are paying 
for a higher level of service, the fact that if the machine 
breaks during the day, there will be someone there to take care
of it at once, if at 3am then someone will be there then too.
Busy signals are a good example.  Our site here does not accept
more than 10 minutes of total busy time in a 24 hour period. 
Each evening a report runs, and if the busy time for the day 
(total) is greater than 10 minutes, the next day more phone 
lines are ordered, and more v.32bis modems are purchased.  If the
influx of users causes the system to slow down, another system
is purchased.  If it causes disk presures, more disks are bought.
The level of service is maintained.

Is this expensive?  Yes.  It is a certain level of service
(a rather high one) that some people demand and are willing to 
pay for, and others are not.  Good for both of them! 

Live and let live, eh?  ;-)



Doug Humphrey
President - Digital Express Group, Inc.
Providers of the Express Access Service

"No mater where you go, there we are"

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From: max@underg.UUCP (Max Cray)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:09:19 EDT
Organization: Underground Computing Foundation

John Lussmyer <dragon@angus.mi.org> writes:

> Free feed?  I don't think there is such a thing as a truly free feed.
> If you aren't paying the supplier for the connect time, you are paying
> the phone company for phone time.  It gets really easy to run up a $100
> month phone bill that way.

Huh? You find someone locally to feed you. Scrounge the maps. And if you
are out in the boondocks, then you are going to have to pay for phone
service anyway, so why compound the error by paying for a newsfeed?

>    Yeah, most people who would like to get a newsfeed would already have
> a system capable of handling it.  But they also want to be able to USE
> their own system.  So that means having a second one to handle the BBS
> end of the deal.  (Yeah, you could run under a multi-tasking OS, but who
> want to loose the performance, and have the system crash out from under
> them.)

Are you really claiming that its impossible to have a reliable multi-user
system using a typical home system (i.e. a 386 cpu)?

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From: "david wess" <david.wess@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: bbs oriented magazine
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:43:06 EST
Reply-To: "david wess" <david.wess@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

RT>What bbs oriented publications/magazines exist? I'm aware of 'Online Access',
RT>but am curious about any others. (Ours is a town of 30,000, and the
RT>newstands are less than overflowing with titles.)
Two magazines come to mind:

(1)     Boardwatch
(2)     BBS Callers Digest

Both of these are substantially similar.  I have a subscription to
Callers Digest, which is pretty good.  There is also an electronic
edition of Boardwatch, which is available through larger bbs's,
including this one.

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From: michael.flint@f901.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Michael Flint)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Idea to utilize multitasking (Windows/Desqview)
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:03:00 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: toma
Hiya Tom...

 > I just got this idea for utilizing the multitasking of
 > Windows (or Desqview)
 > on a BBS with heavy network (Fidonet technology)
 > traffic, and I was wondering
 > if anyone does this. (I'm just getting started in the
 > next couple of weeks)

 > Typically after receiving mail packets, the mailer/BBS
 > goes down while the
 > messages are tossed and scanned/repackaged for
 > downlinks. Since (at least
 > with the software I've got) the mailer, bbs, and
 > scanner/tosser are
 > multitasking-aware, why not have a separate task that
 > "sleeps" until mail
 > packets have arrived, and then does all the
 > processing. This would allow
 > the mailer and BBS to continue to run.

 > I'd like to know of any successes or failures with
 > this technique.


I know with Desqview, it is possible for one window to "spawn" a second
window, using some utils...

This sort of procedure would be perfect for what you have thought of...
Sorry I don't know the name of the util, but will hunt it down, as that idea
would be damn handy here too...

BTW, you'd also need a mail tosser that is multitasking aware/capable, and a
msg base which is likewise...

cya

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From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Access to Dialog Information service...
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:03:13 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <92275.025805MJS174@psuvm.psu.edu> Matthew Jose Smedle <MJS174@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>How do I access Dialog Information Service via Internet (aka telnetting to it).
>Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated.


Just telnet to dialog.com
Have your account number ready.


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From: ricky@mindvox.phantom.com (Richard Velez)
Subject: New York Connection!
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:04:20 GMT

We'll as when I wrote my first message requestion help, on getting
InterNet Connection here in New York, I came up with the following, a few
of ya, sent me mail, and requesting that when I get a small list, well
like to Email ya, but I cant rember who it was, so I am just going to post it.

Here's the Small List :),

MindVox - 212-988-5030  Newsgroup, INterNet, FTP, Telnet, and more.
ExecNet - 914-667-4066  UseNet, InterNet, runnin on PCBoard.
Dorsai  - 718-472-1912  UseNet, InterNet, Running on PCBoard, sends and 
                        receives InterNet, half hour on the hour!.

 We'll these are the system that I found that are price good!, I'm now on
Mindvox and Enjoying myself.. again, I just want to say, Thanks to
everyone who tried/and who did help me.. :)


  The Real Ricky of New York City !
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: tony@disk.uucp (tony)
Subject: Any UseNet access boards in Nashville, TN?
Summary: Need local access to Nixpub board in Nashville, TN.
Keywords: BBSes, Nashville, TN, need, access, UseNet, account, request, help
Organization: Digital Information Systems of KY
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 07:45:29 GMT

	I will be in Nashville, TN, the first two weeks in November.  As I
haven't mastered the art of receiving data files from a hotel room (nope, 
no cellular phone), I would like to get an account on a local NixPub board
while I am there.  A UseNet access board would be even better, so I can
continue to get mail from friends on the net.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.  Thanks!

			Tony Safina
			disk!tony@uunet.UU.NET
From: ffazzio@micromed.com (Frank J. Fazzio Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Internet/Usenet
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 11:46:51 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

My company is interested in becoming a Usenet/Internet hub.  Any 
information that you have on who I should contact and how to hook up 
would be very useful.
Thanks in Advance.
Frank


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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet,alt.internet.services,rec.games.mud.misc
Subject: Re: Quartz BBS and Quartz Paradise MUCK
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:19:47 GMT
Organization: Universite de Moncton

In article <Sep.28.19.25.40.1992.25924@athos.rutgers.edu> pirmann@athos.rutgers.edu (David Pirmann) writes:
>From: pirmann@athos.rutgers.edu (David Pirmann)
>Subject: Quartz BBS and Quartz Paradise MUCK
>Date: 28 Sep 92 23:25:43 GMT



>Quartz BBS and Quartz Paradise MUCK at quartz.rutgers.edu (128.6.60.6)
>are now back online after a month hiatus due to hard drive problems.
>We look forward to seeing you online!



>Dave Pirmann
>SysOp, QuartzBBS etc.


WEEE!!! IT'S BACK!!!!  

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From: p4wong@student.business.uwo.ca (Pui Hou Wong)
Subject: bbs
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:45:32 GMT

good stuff! steve.

p4wong@student.business.uwo.ca (Pui Hou Wong)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: thoma@spud.kludge.com (Chris Thoma)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: BBS magazines/publications
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 18:44:17 PDT
Organization: Tater Tot Liberation Front, San Francisco CA

Can someone out there please post, or email me a list of bbs magazines 
name/addresses, so I can check them out!

thanks in advance!'

thoma@spud.kludge.com (Chris Thoma)
From the home of FREE Usenet / Internet Access for San Francisco
Tater Tot Liberation Front BBS, San Francisco CA    +1 415 255 8340
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: what is compuserve ?
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:49:50 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Oct2.085940.524@cine88.cineca.it> lc1bocv1@cine88.cineca.it writes:
> I apologize for the FAQ, but i need to use a database that is available 
> on compuserve ( namely accu-weather), but i doknown anything
> about compuserve.any information or contact is wellcome.
> thanks in advances.
> fabrizio ravegnani
> cnr fisbat institute
> bologna italy
> lc1bocv1@cine88.cineca.it
> 

It's an American online service that is expensive for Americans, restricted to
2400bps (unless you can print your own money) and is too expensive for
everyone else (unless you are or work for a monopoly industry OR are spending
taxpayers money).
 
Steve



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From: DWEISS@auvm.american.edu (Daniel Weiss)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Really dumb question about Grind
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:48:52 GMT
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

Ok, I can get on to Grind.isca... fine, but I am having a really *stupid*
problem with getting the files I want.

When I hit "f" for the list of files, Grind sends me a screenful and then,
gives me the prompt =more= (or something like that.)

I can't get the more!  I can't figure out what key to hit to make it list the
remaining files.  I have tried about every concievable key and combination of
keys, but nothing works.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
Subject: Re: DAYTON INTERENT SITE
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:44:31 GMT

daniel.campbell@cccbbs.UUCP (Daniel Campbell) writes:
: I'd like to know a Dayton, OH interent BBS and its phone number?
:                                                                

See below about a system I will have online shortly...
It's running but not ready for customers yet.

I'm currently thinking of charging $5/mo + $2/hr.
This covers News, email, archives, etc.

Direct Internet access will be available, but it'll cost me (and
therefore you) $10-12 /hr.  This will allow IRC, wais, gopher, telnet,
ftp, etc.

Bulk rate connections will be available.
I am looking for customers, so if you are interested and know of any
individuals or companies that are interested, I am collecting names,
numbers, email addresses, etc.

Your email address would be "NAME@dayton.lig.net".

I have two high speed lines (V.32bis, V.42bis) now, and will be adding
at least 2 more as soon as I have customers.


I am working with Pagesat (ISS) on the Satellite uplink of a FULL
netnews feed.  You buy an 18" KU band dish, receiver, receive modem
and get software on your system.  Netnews is free for a year and then
about $10-30/mo. after.  The downlink will cost about $2000.

I'm putting together a turn-key Unix system with INN, slip/ppp to
Internet, email, netnews readers, billing, bbs, file transfers, etc.
I'm already working with some BBS operators to provide a feed of news
into their system.

The dialup line is used for email, outgoing News, and error recovery
for incoming news.  It can also be used to telnet/ftp anywhere on
Internet (at a higher charge for users probably) and participate in
IRC, wais, gopher, etc.

The goal is to get a local access system (I call it a Local Internet
Gateway) that is very cheap for local users, while getting complete
access to Internet.  Netnews basically becomes free, at 40+MB/day.

The software is mostly working and I have news spooling very well now.
Slip on demand was surprisingly fast to Cerfnet also.

If you send me email, I'll put you on a notification list of status.

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From: alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: New York Connection!
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:21:33 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

ricky@mindvox.phantom.com (Richard Velez) writes:
>We'll as when I wrote my first message requestion help, on getting
>InterNet Connection here in New York, I came up with the following, a few
>of ya, sent me mail, and requesting that when I get a small list, well
>like to Email ya, but I cant rember who it was, so I am just going to post it.

>Here's the Small List :),

>MindVox - 212-988-5030  Newsgroup, INterNet, FTP, Telnet, and more.
>ExecNet - 914-667-4066  UseNet, InterNet, runnin on PCBoard.
>Dorsai  - 718-472-1912  UseNet, InterNet, Running on PCBoard, sends and 
>                        receives InterNet, half hour on the hour!.

The list is a little too small. Furthermore, I believe that it's wrong. You're
posting in alt.bbs.internet. There's a strong presumption that when you say
internet here, you mean _really_ on the internet- not simply able to exchange
email with internet sites (which can be done almost everywhere these days).

As far as I know, neither dorsai or execnet have an internet connection. They
can send email into the internet, which is a vastly different thing. Phantom
does indeed have a real internet link, though I don't know how accessible
it is to users; as far as I know, the system is still partially in development,
although it's clearly functional.

For completeness' sake:
Panix   - 718-832-1525  Usenet, Internet, FTP, Telnet, and (much!) more.

Um, while I'm mentioning phone numbers: We're about to move into our new
office in manhattan (no more basement- I still can't beleive it! :-). At
that point (around Oct. 16) all our numbers will change; the new low-speed
(2400 bps) hunt group starts on (212) 787-3100. There's no service on that
number yet, of course, so don't call it until the 16th or so...

If you want more info about our site, send mail to "info@panix.com".

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From: bz820@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher M. Paulus)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Fido-net addressing
Date: 1 Oct 1992 22:28:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


When I send a fido-net message, I address it in
the usual way I.E:  internet:f123.n456.z1.fidonet.org

When a message is sent to me, it follows a path.  Here is what I
see:

sender: Chris.Paulus@f236.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Received: from valhalla.ee.rochester.edu by iha.compuserve.com (5.65/5.910516)
        id AA13413; Thu, 1 Oct 92 07:39:53 -0400
Received: from rochgte.UUCP by valhalla.ee.rochester.edu with UUCP (4.1/2.7ee)
id AA12072; Thu, 1 Oct 92 07:39:48 EDT
Received: by rochgte.FidoNet.org (Fred/1.9m)

Can I send the message to the fidonet address via:  Rochgte.fidon
et.org?  I figure:  If I send to the address which is closest to
the fidonet address I wish to send to, the next place it wil be
sent to is the fidonet board to which I'm sending.  If my logic
is correct, how would I go about addressing such a message?  The
method I just described (in my mind), would by-pass most of the
addresses that the message routes through.

Please send all responses to: bz820@cleveland.freenet.edu

Thanks,

Chris
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From: 71541.1617@CompuServe.COM ("Chris/*The Shadow!!!*")
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: The Tsoftnet
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:57:15 GMT


     I tried to connect to the TsoftNet, but it rings with no answer.  Does
anyone know what happened to it, or can anyone give me a diferent number?
 
Chris
From: richard.velez@execnet.com (richard velez)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: usenet within new yor
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:26:06 GMT
Reply-To: "richard velez" <richard.velez@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

Hi, I am looking for a System in New York that Carrys the UseNet Gateway,
 What I mean by this is this...!,

 The system must be a BBS, like any other BBS system that you call, it has Ansi
color, Doors, Files, and more, but also the system must carry the UseNet, I 
know of two system like this, and they are, The ExecNet which is in area code
914 and thats where I am write this from, and The Invention Factory which is in
area code 212, but costs to much for access, anyway what I want is a BBS System
in 212 or 718 that are like this system, not a Unix Connection or anything like
Panix, just a BBS with Extra Stuff on it, Thanks..
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From: byu@remus.rutgers.edu (Bob Yu)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: HELP: FTP access to Shareware/Software
Keywords: help,help,help
Date: 2 Oct 92 05:10:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hi,

	Can anybody give me instructions on using FTP to transfer
shareware or software files?

	Thanks in advance.

Bob.
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Subject: GEnie Question - Thanx!
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:41:19 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

Thanx to everyone who answered my question about GEnie.  Thanx again!

Please no more email about it!

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From: vwright@world.std.com (Vedder A Wright)
Subject: Internet access in Alabama
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 11:44:32 GMT

I am looking for an Internet mail connection for a friend in
Shaeffield AL. That is in the same phone area code as 
Birmingham, area code 205. 
 
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please 
response by personal mail to
 
     vwright@world.std.com
 
Thanks in advance.
 
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From: flanaganc@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: accessing compuserve using ip addresses
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:21:54 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

hi,

 I'am trying to find out if it is possible to telnet/ftp into 
 compuserve. The compuserve node in question is in Dublin, Ireland.

 I have found ip addresses for compuserve nodes in the states, though
 they refused ftp connection. Maybe the situation is different in
 Europe ?

 Any pointers welcome...


 Dr. Colin Flanagan, Dept ECE,

 flanaganc@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: p4wong@student.business.uwo.ca (Pui Hou Wong)
Subject: re bbs
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:53:53 GMT

good discussion. I have fun reading it.

p4wong@student.business.uwo.ca (Pui Hou Wong)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario