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From:         Panagiotis Lolonis <lolonis@NEWS.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: To Makedoviko zntnma

IVRISSIMTZIS@VAX1.COMPUTER-CENTRE.BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK writes:

>>Deixnoun omws ena polu spoudaio pragma:
>>      KAMMIA TOUS DEN ANAFEREI TOUS "MAKEDONES" SAN ANEXARTHTO E0NIKO GROUP!

>Makedovesntav kai eivai oi katoikoi tns Makedovias, eite Slaboi, eite Ellnves,
>eite Blaxoi, eite Albavoi, eite...

To oti o oros "Makedonas" xrhsimopoieito stis arxes arxes tou aiwna na
perigrapsei kai mh Ellhnikhs e0nikothtas laous einai alh0eia.

Gia auto to logo h Ellhnikh pleura isxurizetai oti o oros exei gewgrafikh
mono kai oxi ethnikh shmasia.  Oi Skopianoi omws xrhsimopoioun ton oro gia
na orisoun thn e0nikothta tous pou thn 0ewroun diaforetikh apo thn Ellhnikh
kai edw einai pou xekinaei to provlhma.  Ton xrhsimopoioun gia na onomasoun
th glwssa tous pou einai entelws diaforetikh (se diaforetiko klado twn
family trees) apo thn arxaia Makedonikh glwssa.  Tetoiou eidous orismoi
dhmiourgoun, to ligwtero, esfalmenes entypwseis, idiaitera se osous den
xeroun istoria, kai 0a prepei na apofeugontai.

> Dev exoyme to dikaiwma va arvn0oyme se
>kavevav, poy toses gevies progovwv toy gia ekatovtades kai xiliades xrovia,
>znsav, mox0nsav kai pe0avav s' aytn tn gn va ovomazetai Makedovas, epeidn
>tyxaivei va mn milaei ellnvika.

H gh gia thn opoia, toso melodramatika, les oti pe0anan klp. kata thn
Tourkokratia den legotan "Makedonia" kai apo to 1913-1940 legotan Bardarska.

An 0eloun na karpw0oun thn istoria kai paradosh pou susxetizetai me tous
Makedones giati na mhn exoume thn apaithsh na kanoun auto pou ekanan oi
arxaioi Makedones, dhl. na diathrhsoun, an oxi na diadosoun, thn Ellhnikh
glwssa kai ton Ellhniko politismo?

Ama den tous aresei h glwssa klp. tote na vroun enan allo oro pou einai pio
antiproswpeutikos gia na mhn mperdeuomaste kai emeis oi upoloipoi.

Ypagwgh se ena e0niko group shmainei kai eu0unh gia thn diathrhsh twn
xarakthristikwn, opws h glwssa kai h 0rhskeia, pou orizoun auto to group.

Kai auto einai pou den kanoun oi Skopianoi.  0eloun na karpw0oun thn
istoria kai th doxa alla oxi na mpoun ston kopo na diathrhsoun mia glwssa
pou den einai omoia me th dikh tous (kalpono0eies dhladh).

>frasns. To IMRO, parolo poy eksefraze kyria tis epavastatikes dia0eseis twv
>Slabikwv pln0ysmwv tns Makedovias, ntav arxika aytovomo apo tnv e0vikistikn
>boylgarikn "Supreme Macedonian Committee" (SMC). Ayto faivetai, afevos apo tn
>diaknryksn toy katastatikoy toy gia "plnrn politikn aytovomia tns Makedovias
>kai toy bilaetioy tns Avdriavoypolns" [Boylgarika Istorika Arxeia; 1897], kai

An elegan sta anoixta oti htan me tous Voulgarous, pws 0a epei0an tous
Ellhnes kai tous upoloipous laous ths Makedonias na tous uposthrixoun?

Den nomizw oti 0a htan toso afeleis na mhn kanoun auto pou akrivws ekanan.

>afeteroy apo ta perifnma logia toy Delchev sto Nikolaev tns SMC: "We do not
>need others deciding if we live or die or when...And now this, we do not seek
>protectors" [The Politics of Terror, Perry]. Perissotera stoixeia gia tis

O Delchev htan Boulgaros kai to eixe dhlwsei kai o idios.  To parakatw
quote ta leei ola:

"Let us not allow splits and splintering to frighten us. It is, indeed, a
pity, but what can we do, since we are Bulgarians and all suffer from one
common disease"
                                Gotse Delchev


>Kalo sabbatokyriako,
>Lewvidas
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