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Subject: Re: Season 6 spoilers from creation con in Anaheim
From: lawson@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com
Date: 31 Aug 92 07:14:42 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas - Space Station Division, Huntington Beach CA
Nntp-Posting-User: warren

In article <1992Aug31.014538.4193@eng.umd.edu>, wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
> In article <1992Aug29.204314.1@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com> lawson@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com writes:
>>I just came back from the Creation Con in Anaheim and picked up some season 6
>>tidbits. Spoilers follow !!
> 
>>Patrick Stewart was playing a borg 2 days ago.
> Hmmmm....Isn't Deep Space Nine supposed to begin filming about now?  My guess
> is that Captain Sisco has some sort of flashback of Wolf 359, where his  
> wife was killed.  This probably informs the audience of his dislike for
> Picard.  Sound good?

It does !! I was thinking that the Q episode might have had something to do
with it, but this sounds better. (they did say there were 2 Q's in the new
episode...)

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Subject: Re: Relics and transporter trace question (spoiler?)
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 14:05:12 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior) writes:

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> Ok, I give.  What's a "transporter trace" and how will this help Scotty to 
> appear on the Big-E?
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> Also, a comment on the Bourbon/Saurian Brandy note:  Scotty does too drink ot
> drinks besides Scotch whiskey.  We saw this in STVI:TUC, where they were all
> drinking Romulan ale.  Also in TOS, Scotty used various types of booze to 
> "humanize" the alien.  The episode was "By Any Other Name" and the aliens wer
> called ___________?  (Sorry, I used to know)

Kelvans.  That's ok, I had to look it up.

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From: teexijd@ioe.ac.uk (IAN DAVENPORT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Man Trap
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:48:03 GMT
Organization: Institute of Education, University of London


>>atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell) writes:
>>> The Beeb showed the TOS episode *The Man Trap* last night, this was the first
>>> TOS episode to be broadcast on TV in america. Good to see Kirk, Spock and
>>> Bones together with the old polystyrene rocks and stuff. As usual the unknown
>>> crewmen got bumped off by the alien creature, it was after the salt in their
>>> bodies. There were some strange things though. At the start of the episode

And strangest of all, the grunts who got it in the neck weren't wearing
Red Shirts (tm).


Ian J Davenport   MULLARD SPACE SCIENCE LABORATORY  ijd@uk.ac.ucl.mssl

               "They have locked on to my tricorder!"
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From: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Subject: Grace Lee Whitney in STVI
Reply-To: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 03:59:05 GMT


Did anyone happen to see that name in the credits under "Excelsior
Communications Officer"?  That would explain why they kept showing her
face for no apparent reason.

For those of you who don't know, Grace Lee Whitney played Yeoman Janice
Rand during the first season of the original TREK.

CHuck GIbbs
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From: ins598w@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Roger Tall)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI on video when?
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 03:28:30 GMT


When in the world is Star Trek VI coming to video in AUSTRALIA (Victoria) 
in particular???

I really want to know and make my Star Trek video collection complete!!

Thanks in advance.

Roger Tall
2nd Yr. Computer Science
Monash University AUSTRALIA
E-MAIL:  ins598w@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Review of "Imzadi" by Peter David - numerous spoilers!
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current,. University of Betazed
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:43:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.211013.29932@tc.cornell.edu> jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.225158.448@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>>SPOILERS!
>
>>
>>CONTINUITY
>
>	Remember in Disaster, Data's head worked despite his body being
>zapped by something or other?  The same principle.  I'm surprised you
>didn't mention the most obvious error in the book.  Look at the stardate
>on the Captain's Log fro the chapter that contains a flashback of
>Encounter at Farpoint.  That is the most glaring error and I can't 
>believe the folks at Paramount didn't catch it...or for that matter,
>I can't believe PAD made such a stupid mistake.

No, the head working OK is fine by me.  My problem is his head sending
remote signals to the body without being connected.

As for the stardate, yes I did see it, but as it has been said several
times on the net that the stardates were a little erratic at the start
of TNG, I figured that that's what the case was, since that otherwise
is clearly a second season stardate, and I didn't want to have to put
myself through the agony of looking up the date in Farpoint, since any
glimpse of Farpoint from this time makes me feel drunk.  Ask any glass
of water about that feeling and you'll know what I mean.
(Apologies to D.Adams)


>>Just because I've been pointing these out doesn't mean I think they matter
>>all that much.
>>
>>Overall grade: 
>>B
>
>	Me, too.  But I wouldn't give A because of corny dialogue between
>Troi and Riker.  Too much semblance to an episode of Cheers with Sam
>and Rebecca.
>
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>>Or in other words,  a good read.
>>I place this about in the middle of the David pack, and even being on the
>>botom of that sets it high above the other authors.
>>
>>What do you lot think?
>
>	Agreed on that last paragraph.
>
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Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart Narrating Car Ads
From: <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 3 Sep 1992 00:59:38 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <Sep02.162056.60201@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>,
cc433336@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas) says:
>
>Just found out that Patrick Stewart narrates informational tapes for the
>same car company he narrates car ads.
>--
>Constantinos A. Caroutas
>
>"It's easy to make mistakes when others will be held responsible."

His most recent commercial was for RCA Theatre Projection TV system advertising
the sound system of it with the RCA dogs and guess what they were watching? :)

The two little guys were watching battle scenes from Star Trek II and VI...
From: demirtjis@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Ann Demirtjis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: ST:TNG "The Next Phase" SPOILERS!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 06:13:13 CDT
Organization:  University of Kansas, USA.



--- SPOILERS --- SPOILERS --- SPOILERS --- SPOILERS --- SPOILERS ---
	I don't think that this post contains any real spoilers, but I prefer
to play it safe... :-)




















-- Hi 

	I have a question concerning the episode "The Next Phase". At the
end of the show, Picard is seen saying to Dr Crusher the following: "If she 
hadn't lost her rank in the incident on Galon 4 (sp?), I think she would have 
been Lieutenant Commander by now". I assume he was speaking about Ro since 
earlier in the episode Ro said something about Picard having given her a chance
when nobody else did. What is this all about?? I guess they are refering to 
another episode, but which one ? When did Ro come aboard the E and where is
she from ? (she explains some of her people's customs in TNP, but I couldn't
catch the name of her native world).

	Thanks in advance for the help... :-)	    
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From: leono@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Leon Olszewski )
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:46:43 GMT

Someone who has not been mentioned is Crusher's aide in Sickbay. (I don't
know her name, or who plays her).

Of course, I am partial to good-looking oriental women. :-)

-- 

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From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
Subject: Re: James Doohan to appear on TNG!  ** SPOILERS **
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:19:08 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

In article <8310@orbit.cts.com> chris@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Jacobson) writes:
>Taken from CNN 'Showbiz Today' on Thursday, August 25th 1992.
>
>James Doohan will appear as "Scotty" in a sixth season episode of TNG called
>'Relics.'  In this episode Scotty takes a 75 year 'jump' into the future,
>from the original Enterprise bridge to the Enterprise-D.  Actually, it's not
>the "original" bridge, but a re-creation; the original bridge is in the
>Smithsonian.
>
How can it be the original bridge anyway???  Scotty clearly never disapeared
while on the original Enterprise, not to mention the fact that he physically
looks older and fatter than he did by a long shot.  I would make sense to
have him disappear from the 1701-A, sometime after the events in STVI:TUC.

That bridge is still completely available probably still quite shiny and
without cobwebs.

Naming a TNG episode after my favourite character in 'The Beachcombers' 
makes my year.


ferenc



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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST: TNG actors on other series
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:28:28 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute

>In article <4ec6Ok200UjU81UUVk@andrew.cmu.edu>, jp45+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jim Thomas Park , Jr.) writes:
>> Here's another on for Gates. She was in The Hunt for Red October. She
>> was Alec Baldwin's character's wife I believe.
 

In article <1992Aug31.095929.931@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>Problem with this citation:  Gates was left on the cutting room floor of that
>movie...

Interesting.  I remember seeing her in the movie, in two scenes:  in
their house in the U.K., and at the airport, driving Baldwin's
character to meet his plane.

Ye gods, the thread that just won't die...

-- 
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From: willcr@bud.sos.ivy.isc.com (Will Crowder)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG actors on other series
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Reply-To: willcr@ivy.isc.com
Organization: Interactive Systems Corp.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:15:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.095929.931@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>,
gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:

|> In article <4ec6Ok200UjU81UUVk@andrew.cmu.edu>, jp45+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jim Thomas Park , Jr.) writes:
|> > Here's another on for Gates. She was in The Hunt for Red October. She
|> > was Alec Baldwin's character's wife I believe.
|> > 
|> 
|> Problem with this citation:  Gates was left on the cutting room floor of that
|> movie...

Well, they must have put the footage back in for the video tape then,
because she's in there...(I guess that's pretty common--putting footage
back for the video tape.)

Will
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From: jpw@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "Relics" (Scotty episode) *Spoilers*
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:01:24 GMT
Distribution: phl
Organization: Drexel University, Philadelphia PA

In article <1992Aug25.220813.20349@eng.umd.edu> wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
>Couple of Spoilers concerning "Relics" that I caught on CNN
>
>
>
>They've reconstructed the bridge of the Enterprise from TOS.  It looks exactly
>the same, knobs and buttons and all.  CNN showed Scotty walking around it
>holding a bottle of bourbon (or whatever) and a glass.  My guess is that 
>Scotty reconstructed it on the holodeck to say a few goodbyes to his
>old shipmates.  The report shows him talking to thin air on the bridge.
>Looks like they're going for the ultra-nostalgic feel with "Relics," something
>they mostly avoided with "Unification."  
>
>Doohan also said that the story does involve him and Geordi working together 
>to save the new Enterprise.  Surprise, eh?  Looks interesting, to be sure.
> 

Gosh.. does that mean that Geordi will LIVE.....????
From: 00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ
Date: 3 Sep 92 06:30:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.214813.9361@fripp.ri.cadre.com>, rss@gooey.eng-sun writes:
> 
> It has to be the Irish woman from the episode where the enterprise was
> transporting settlers, goats and all.
> 
> Rich

Indubitably.  *sigh*
I just know I'm going to catch hell from my girlfriend for posting this,
but...sorry, Becki...8^)_


FYI-that was Up the Long Ladder.  Who *SHE* is, however, I can't tell you,
because it's a VERY closely guarded secret. 8^)

Spock
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Was TOS really that bad? (Re: TOS actors)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:53:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.212359.19951@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <1992Aug27.070719.5334@adx.adelphi.edu> ricky@adx.adelphi.edu (Ricky Glass) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug27.045603.24039@cs.tu-berlin.de> hal@cs.tu-berlin.de (Eberhart Adam) writes:

>>Have you ever watched, I mean really watched TNG?

>Yes.  For five years now.  The characters are, for the most part, shapeless
>and pale, and the stories are averaged-to-wretched more often than not.

>>As far as the acting, it is excellent.  I really don't see much better
>>as on TV.

>Which isn't saying much.  But, just for kicks, I think there are plenty of
>actors around who can equal most of the ones on TNG.  Jeremy Brett (Sherlock
>Holmes on Mystery!), Peter Davison (Campion on Mystery!) and the man who
>plays Stone on Law And Order (Michael Moriarty?) can all, I think, easily
>hold their own even to Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner.

So?  I think Jeremy Brett is a thrilling actor, but what does it prove?
_My_ actor is better than _your_ actor?  Why do you feel obligated to
place one set of actors above another.  Isn't it like saying that
Beethoven was musically superior to Liszt?


>All three of these gentlement I think have the advantage of Stewart, though,
>in that they have superior material to work with.
>
>>>In TOS there have been characters as you and me they have been
>>>identificable

Well, they certainly were...predictable.  As in predictable television
personality stereotypes.  No better or no worse than the characters that
we see on TNG.  I think the main difference is that the TNG characters
are so much more _politically correct_, which tends to make them a
little blander.


>>In all the years of watching TOS, never did I find myself relating to
>>characters.  The show was pure sci-fi enjoyment.

I agree completely here.  Who among us is willing to stand up and say
"yes, Kirk inspired me because I could see so much of myslef in him"?
They merely served as good, servicable characters that could support
stories successfully.


>I found myself relating to them frequently, and still do, for that matter.
>(I think Star Trek II shows a strength of character which is orders of
>magnitude above ANYONE on TNG.)


What do you mean exactly by "strength of character"?  You don't find
that Picard as written has colossal strength of character?  I do.  If he
had anymore than he has now, he might burst!


>>> -  but a moaning supersensual counsellor is not my first
>>>choice for good sci-fi.


When has she "moaned"?  I don't care for her character either, but the
premise must've sounded good before the first episode was filmed.

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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: YIKES!  The cross-over show is actually going to happen!!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:06:57 GMT

mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us  writes:
> 
> I saw on (I think) Entertainment Tonight last night that the TOS/TNG
> cross-over show is going to air early in the 6th season!
> 
> James Doohan was interviewed for it, and they showed the set of the
> OLD TOS Enterprise bridge, which had been reconstructed for this
> episode.  This is not the fancy bridge from the movies, this is the
> ancient-looking red-rail bridge from the TV series.
> 
> Details were not forthcoming, but the Enterprise (presumably the pre-A
> Big E) takes a little trip forward in time and meets the E-D and their
> crew.  I only caught the last part of the segment, but my roommate
> tells me that DeForrest, Nichelle and Shatner will be appearing in it.
> He didn't know if Nimoy would be in it also.
> 
> Doohan described his role in it briefly as the save-the-ship person,
> only this time he helps Geordi save the E-D, in some sort of plot
> which he would not tell about fur

OOps!  Your were asking for details.  Check the newsgroup r.a.startrek.fandom,
I think.  Anyway, check one of the other groups, they have lots, and lots, and
lots of DETAILS!!!! DETAILS!!  :+)
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From: magras@cps.msu.edu (Mr. Jean-Claude Magras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Is there going to be a Star Trek convention here in E. Lansing, MI?
Date: 24 Aug 92 00:11:33 GMT
Organization: Anarchy Committee
Originator: magras@eel.cps.msu.edu

Hello Star Trek fans..

Somebody told me there is going to be a Start Trek convention here in E. Lansing.
He said that Ms. Roddenbery would be there as well a Mr. DeLancie. Is this true?
He said it would be in September in the Holiday in accross the street from
Michigan State University.. is it true? Nooo... Please don't let it be a 
CreationCon... :(

Thanks in Advance,

J. C. Magras

 magras@cps.msu.edu. | 517 337 2267 | 1736 Burcham Dr., E. Lansing, MI 48823
From: ssubrama@dante.nmsu.edu (SUBRAMANIAM)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Question about a ST:TNG show?
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:20:14 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM

In article <1992Aug21.190816.42496@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> demirtjis@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Ann Demirtjis) writes:
>-- I have a question which should seem very simple to most of u (I just started
>watching ST:TNG).
>I saw about 2 or 3 months ago a ST:TNG episode in which the Enterprise
>comes into contact with a probe which causes Picard to "live" another
>life on some planet about to go nova. I think the son of Patrick Steward
>plays the role of the son of Picard in this show. Anyway, I'd like to know
>if this show was one of last season and if it will be one of the reruns still
>to come (before the new season starts). 
>
>	Thanks in advance for the help.
>				
>						Ann.
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>Ann Demirtjis				       University Of Kansas
>                                               Academic Computing Services
>demirtjis@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu		       Lawrence, Ks, 66045


The episode's name is "Inner Light".  I think the rerun of this episode will be
on September 12.  It may be different depending on the specific station. 
Siva
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From: dust@cs.UAlberta.CA (Dust Jason Norman)
Subject: Shatner & Nimoy on Arsenio tonight
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:18:43 GMT


	If anyone is interested William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy will
be appearing in a re-run of the Arsenio Hall Show tonight.

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From: rayaprol@kasi.pilgrim.umass.edu (Venu S Rayaprolu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Where can I watch startrek ??
Keywords: TV stations
Date: 24 Aug 92 01:03:07 GMT
Reply-To: rayaprol@kasi.pilgrim.umass.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst

Recently someone posted a compiled list of Television stations that
show startrek. The articel seems to have expired at this end and I
can't find any references to it in either the FAQ or the "List of
lists". Can anyone please post it again or send me a copy of that
article? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.

Venu
--
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 spoke. I mean, he could roll over and all that, but did that deserve a series?"
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