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From: amdunn@mongrel.UUCP (Andrew M. Dunn)
Subject: Re: Hello
Organization: A. Dunn Systems Corporation, Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:15:10 GMT

In article <13NOV199220171759@trentu.ca> jellis@trentu.ca (John Ellis) writes:
>Go ahead. Bash Laurier all you like.  It's a shitty university.  I went 
>there for a year.  Great school if you're into learning how to 1.  Destroy 
>the environment   2.  Stepping over the bodies of the impoverished class to 
>get to the top of the corporate ladder   3.  Make money at all costs.  4.  
>Hassle so-called "undesirable" student groups (such as the WLU Gay and 
>Lesbians Group) into disbanding due to the amount of homo-bashing they had 
>to deal with.


What the heck did you take at Laurier?   I didn't sign up for any
of those courses.

But if you mean Laurier isn't left-wing as all get out (which sounds
like your real complaint) you're right.  And I hope it stays that
way.


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From: wool8657@mach1.wlu.ca (john woolsey 9209 U)
Subject: Re: WLU students all the same...
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:25:45 GMT
Keywords: Not quite

In article <22NOV199221192283@trentu.ca> jellis@trentu.ca (John Ellis) writes:
>The Cord fired for printing the article entitled "A Gay Man's Guide to 
>Erotic SAFE Sex"  Hey, man, I always thought that a university newspaper 
>was a forum where people could discuss issues in a mature, open-minded 
>manner.  At Laurier, that is not the case.  You print something that the 
>LSU doesn't like and they shut ya down.  Censorship, my friend.  
I do not agree with censorship, but I do not wish to hear about Sex in a
school magazine. It is rather inappropriate in the terms that that seems to
be describing it. I find it inappropriate to see people performing sexual
acts in the halls because they think they should have the right. It happens
all the time at Gay Days at Trent from what I hear. The funny thing is that
most hetero's and the Gays with decency seem to perfer to do such things behind
closed doors. That is our society so why try to change it to make a point.
Newsgroups: ont.singles
From: dagibbs@quantum.on.ca (David Gibbs)
Subject: Re: Hello
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 03:12:34 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software Systems

In article <21NOV199215115049@trentu.ca> jellis@trentu.ca (John Ellis) writes:
>And the people... Ever seen anyone at Laurier who isn't white?  I think 
>not.  And whatever you do, don't let anyone know you're gay at WLU.  You'll 
>wake up the next morning (if you wake up, that is) staring at a bunch of 
>idiots in white sheets and oxfords.

You mean the high school down the street? :-)  

Actually I have seen some non-whites at WLU, they being a few Asians.

-David Gibbs
(dagibbs@quantum.qnx.com)
(UW grad)
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From: jellis@trentu.ca (John Ellis)
Subject: Re: WLU students all the same...
Summary: Still the same opiniion
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Excuse the heated language...
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:20:00 GMT

In article <By50M9.549@mach1.wlu.ca>, brez8986@mach1.wlu.ca (James Brezina u) writes...
>I must appologize for the slightly uncalled for language that appereared
>in my last posting.  Don't get me wrong... I still hold the same
>opinion but I guess I just flew off the handle a bit.  I'm just sick of 
>people cutting Laurier up.  It's a good school.  Oh, and BTW why Trent?


What do you mean, "Why Trent"?  Explain yourself.

JE.

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From: wool8657@mach1.wlu.ca (john woolsey 9209 U)
Subject: Re: Hello
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:51:02 GMT

In article <22NOV199213083084@trentu.ca> jellis@trentu.ca (John Ellis) writes:
>>Actually I have seen some non-whites at WLU, they being a few Asians.
>Yeah, there are a FEW non-whites at Laurier.  Poor bastards.
>
Yeah why go to a university that treats everyone as equals when there are
plenty of them with `equality committees' that will insure that if you can
claim you are a minority, and the professor gave you a low mark that you can
get it fixed without difficulty. You are completely correct.
Newsgroups: ont.singles
From: kim@phaedrus.jts.com (T. Kim Nguyen )
Subject: Re: HELLO??
Reply-To: kim@watnow.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: JTS Computer Systems Ltd.
	<1992Nov08.224937.29984@mongrel.UUCP> <1992Nov14.145734.470@hpb.hwc.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:14:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.145734.470@hpb.hwc.ca> pyan@ehd.hwc.ca (Just call me Ping...) writes:

   How about our Ottawa folks getting together for such an event on some 
   Friday or weekend evenings?  Any ideas?  Past experiences?

   By the way, I was at one of the TARTS outings last year.  I thought it 
   was a great experience. I have relocated since then.  A last thing, 
   could someone think about a nice name for such a resturant touring group?

How about OARTS?  (say it out loud)...  :-)
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From: aa302@Freenet.carleton.ca (Russell McOrmond)
Subject: Re: Hello
Reply-To: aa302@Freenet.carleton.ca (Russell McOrmond)
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:01:25 GMT


In a previous article, coop4y44@bnr.ca (Robb Keayes) says:
>Anyone care to defend their school?


  Personally I'm curious what all this 'University Bashing' has to do with
singles.  I know we often do not have a topic, but I can't see how trying 
to get everyone against each other or having to 'defend' their choice
of schooling is productive.

  Oh, well <grin>.  For what it is worth, I have not been totally pleased
with the 'Batchelor of Computer Science' program offered at Carleton.
This might relate to the fact that I am more of a 'hands on' learner, and
Carleton is very much a 'Access Denied' institution.


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From: amdunn@mongrel.UUCP (Andrew M. Dunn)
Subject: Re: Hello
Organization: A. Dunn Systems Corporation, Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:13:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.185217.4025@bmerh85.bnr.ca> stu1d46@bmerh255.bnr.ca (Erik P. Trounce) writes:
>   Wilfred Laurier - the high school down the road.
    ^^^^^^^
    WILFRID!   WILFRID!    Why can so few Canadians spell the name
                           of one of our most famous prime ministers????


>Check out those (Waterloo) Warriors. NOT! <- I can make fun of my school too

Yes, but you can't make fun of mine  :-)


Nyaaaaagh!




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From: wool8657@mach1.wlu.ca (john woolsey 9209 U)
Subject: Re: Hello
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:48:09 GMT

In article <21NOV199215115049@trentu.ca> jellis@trentu.ca (John Ellis) writes:
>>What the heck did you take at Laurier?   I didn't sign up for any
>>of those courses.
>
>I was a 1st year BizKnob, as I assume you probably are given the general 
>lack of originality in your posts.  One thing Laurier isn't is original.  
>It's a university who's entire student body consists of people who are all 
>exactly the same.  That is, a bunch of snotty, close-minded, Western 
>Wannabees who sit around talking about new and exciting ways to make money 
>at any cost.  Almost every extracurricular club you've got is centered 
>around business.  
And Why aren't you there now. Just a pitty that people fail out, and then
blame the university for it isn't it :-)
>
>And the people... Ever seen anyone at Laurier who isn't white?  I think 
>not.  And whatever you do, don't let anyone know you're gay at WLU.  You'll 
>wake up the next morning (if you wake up, that is) staring at a bunch of 
>idiots in white sheets and oxfords.
Hmmmm so who cares what colour someone is?
>
>BTW, just a little side note:  Wilfrid Laurier University was originally 
>known as Waterloo Lutheran University.  When the administration decided 
>back in the 60's to change the name, they picked Wilfrid Laurier because 
>they'd save hundreds of dollars on new letterhead.  WLU is the only 
>university in Ontario that makes a profit.  And where does all that hard 
>earned cash go?  Sure as hell not to improving the school or to starting 
>new clubs for the students.  You have to wait five years at WLU before you 
>can get any funding for a new club, just to give you an idea of how CHEAP 
>WLU is.

How unfortunate. A government agency that isn't losing money. Gee I think we
should destroy it as a horrible example of how to run the government of this
country. Just think of all of the problems it would cause if the collective
deficit wasn't going up.
>
>
>>But if you mean Laurier isn't left-wing as all get out (which sounds
>>like your real complaint) you're right.  And I hope it stays that
>>way.
>
>I'm sure you do.  Ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it?
Yes it is. I would really like to go to a university where the professors
smoke drugs with the students, and think that they know how to run a
society, when they really have no contact with it. Gee you wouldn't be
headed for a professorship at Trent would you? Just make sure that you have
no contact with reality, and then think you know exactly what would make the
world better. Ignore the fact that the solution causes more problems then it
solves, and try to get the NDP government to pass it. Sounds like a good
plan to me. BTW Didn't Trent come out as a major supporter of Reaganomics
that cause the wonderful recession in the 80s. Seems no one talks about that
anymore funny that :-) - see ya - JAW
Newsgroups: ont.singles
From: wool8657@mach1.wlu.ca (john woolsey 9209 U)
Subject: Re: WLU students all the same...
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:27:52 GMT
Keywords: Excuse the heated language...

In article <22NOV199221204340@trentu.ca> jellis@trentu.ca (John Ellis) writes:
>What do you mean, "Why Trent"?  Explain yourself.

Isn't that perfectly simple? You can do your drugs with your professor, and
not work very hard. What a good preparation for life.
Newsgroups: ont.singles
From: amdunn@mongrel.UUCP (Andrew M. Dunn)
Subject: Re: HELLO??
Organization: A. Dunn Systems Corporation, Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:11:31 GMT

>You support that drug smoking hippie who cheats on his wife. Now that is the
>morale fibre that I want taking the head in the states.

If you want moral fibre, eat a good bran cereal that doesn't spend
it's time sleeping with raisins.

>From a purely
>Canadian perspective I am sure that we will do much better with such a
>pansy, and there will be some nice spin-offs like less acid rain.

Unless you're living near Clinton when he does the acid.  It's
more like 'acid reign', I guess.

BTW, a good one about Peter North the other day (the Ontario
MPP who resigned after having an affair with a woman):

"They both say they didn't make love.  Is that the Canadian
 equivalent of not inhaling?



Andy
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From: brez8986@mach1.wlu.ca (James Brezina u)
Subject: WLU students all the same...
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Summary: Whatever... 
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:41:29 GMT
Keywords: Not quite

I normally don't post articles on this group but I was just reading
some of the articles here when I caught a glimpse of the article from
jellis@trentu.ca and couldn't believe the garbage that he was writing.
(About WLU that is...)

>It's a university who's entire student body consists of people who are
>exactly the same.  That is a bunch of snotty, closed minded, Western
>Wannebees who sit around talking about new and exciting ways to make
>money at any cost.

Well John, you must have had your head up your @ss while you were at
Laurier.  If you would have taken the time to take a good look around you
you may have noticed that there are more than Biz students there.  Some
of us are there studying things such as computing or math, or even
poli-sci.  And believe me, I am far from closed minded or snotty.
(Just a little touchy when it comes to sweeping generalizations)

To tell you the truth, I am quite offended at being referred to as
a 'Western Wannabee' when the only thing I wannabee from Western is
FAR AWAY!

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From: jellis@trentu.ca (John Ellis)
Subject: Re: Hello
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:08:00 GMT

> 
>Actually I have seen some non-whites at WLU, they being a few Asians.
> 
Yeah, there are a FEW non-whites at Laurier.  Poor bastards.
From: doug.hewko@synapse.org (Doug Hewko) 
Newsgroups: ont.singles
Subject: Re: Hello
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: doug.hewko@synapse.org (Doug Hewko) 

From: doug.hewko@synapse.org

From Robb Keayes....

RK.And what about Carelton?  They go up in tha rankings so the profs decide that
  .the methods used were not valid.  Sort of validates their ranking on the
  .overall entrance requirements (and hence the intelligence) of the general
  .Carelton population.

That is not true at all.  Ever since the first Maclean's survey, the 
academic community (not just Carleton) criticised the survey for being 
poorly designed.  For example, what does a reputation of the school 
have to do with the quality of education?  Nothing.  Carleton is one 
of the best in Canada in several areas.  As an example, nobody every 
mentions our strong commerce program.  Carleton is the ONLY University 
in Canada to send ALL of its teams to the ICBC finals in Kingston.  We 
also do very well in those finals too.  And what does the entrance 
requirements have to do with the quality of education?  Albert 
Einstein was a high school drop-out, so by your logic he was an idiot.

It is especially interesting that a few months after the Maclean's 
survey was published, another survey was conducted on the quality of 
graduates. This survey asked employers that, if given a choice, from 
which university would they prefer to hire from.  Carleton ranked 
number four in Canada.  That means despite Carleton's open door policy 
(which those who don't understand often criticise), our grads are 
among the best in Canada.....

RK.Well, I'm from Simon Fraser (SFU) and we were ranked #2 behind Waterloo.  I

And I take it you are a prime example of the quality of students at 
SFU?  I hope not because even though my message spelled "Carleton" for 
you, you managed to still spell it incorrectly.  <g> 

               Doug
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From: crocker@qucis.queensu.ca (Sandra Crocker)
Subject: A.I. AND ROBOTICS SEMINAR SERIES
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Human-Machine interfaces (haptic and auditory), virtual-environment
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University
Distribution: ont
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:41:40 GMT



                        ROBOTICS AND A. I. SEMINAR SERIES

                              Walter Light hall 
                          (new Technology Centre)
                                  Room 210 
                                  3:00 pm


                            HUMAN-MACHINE INTERFACES

                FOR VIRTUAL-ENVIRONMENT AND TELEOPERATOR SYSTEMS





                Nathaniel I. Durlach and Mandayam A. Srinivasan

      Research Laboratory of Electronics and Mechanical Engineering Dept.

            Virtual Environment and Teleoperator Research Consortium

          Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 77 Massachusetts Ave,

                              Cambridge, MA  02138





                                    ABSTRACT



          In both teleoperator and virtual-environment systems, the human

     operator is projected into a new interactive environment mediated by

     artificial electronic and electromechanical devices. The operator's

     performance, experience, and source of presence in these new

     environments depends strongly on the human-machine interface and the

     associated environmental interactions.



          After presenting some general introductory remarks concerning

     these two types of systems, we will discuss some specific research

     problems in the areas of (1) haptic interfaces (i.e., interfaces for

     manual sensing and manipulation) and (2) auditory interfaces.



          The design specifications for haptic interfaces are determined

     not only by the tasks to be performed, but also by the biomechanical,

     sensorimotor and cognitive abilities associated with the human haptic

     system. In this talk, we will focus on the mechanistic and

     information-processing aspects of our sense of touch, drawing upon

     empirical results from biomechanics, neurophysiology, and

     psychophysics.



          In the portion of our talk concerned with auditory interfaces, we

     will discuss recent work research on human responses to intentional

     distortion of auditory localization cues to achieve supernormal

     auditory localization performance.


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From: Kaizhong Zhang <kzhang@csd.uwo.ca>
Subject: Reminder: Colloq. Wednesday, Nov. 18, 1992.
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:16:01 GMT
To: 42131_3665@uwovax.uwo.ca, KIRBY@VAXR.SSCL.UWO.CA, allcs@csd.uwo.ca,
        brenda@engrg.uwo.ca, creider@csd.uwo.ca, dawes@uwovax.uwo.ca,
        eagleson@uwovax.uwo.ca, elmarag@uwovax.uwo.ca, grads@csd.uwo.ca,
        hugh@engrg.uwo.ca, jjiang@uwovax.uwo.ca, m.kinnucan@uwo.ca,
        marcu@csd.uwo.ca, ont.events@newshost.uwo.ca, tague@uwo.ca,
        undergrads@gaul.csd.uwo.ca, uwo.general@newshost.uwo.ca,
        wy@apmaths.uwo.ca, zakaria@csd.uwo.ca

          The University of Western Ontario
            Department of Computer Science

                    COLLOQUIUM

Speaker: David Rosenblueth
         Department of Computer Science
         UNAM, Mexico D.F., Mexico.
Title:   Magic sets with charts
Time:    Wednesday, November 18 1992, at 2:00pm
Place:   MC 320
Abstract:
   Logic programs look like context-free grammars.  This makes proof
   procedures for logic programs resemble parsers for context-free
   grammars.  We exploit this resemblance to show that a well-known proof
   procedure for logic programs, called the ``magic-sets'' method, follows
   essentially the same principle as Earley's parser.  Earley's parser
   builds parse trees in a top-down manner.  There exist parsers similar
   to Earley's, that build parse trees in a bottom-up way.  This suggests
   using a bottom-up version of Earley's parser to devise a new proof
   procedure for logic programs.  We have developed one such procedure,
   which is an alternative to the magic-sets method.
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From: kenm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (...Jose)
Subject: CFP: Ontario University Computing Conference
Keywords: CFP, Ontario, McMaster
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:54:56 GMT

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Ontario Universities Computing Conference to be at McMaster

OUCC * OCUTINA * OCCCCD '93

The 24'th annual Ontario Universities Computing Conference (OUCC),  sponsored
by the Association of Computing Services Directors (ACSD), will be conjoined
with the ninth annual conference of the Ontario Colleges and Universities
Telecommunications and Information Network Association (OCUTINA) and, for the
first time, with the annual conference of the Ontario Community College
Computing Centre Directors (OCCCCD) at McMaster University, May 30 through
June 2, 1993.  This conjunction of groups is indicative of the ever-growing
cooperation between Colleges and  Universities, seeking cost-effective shared
solutions to common problems.

"Piecing It Together: People, Information and Technology", the theme for the
conference, emphasizes the spectrum of services required for the many
disparate groups within our organizations, the widely varied requirements for
access to information and the elusive promise that technology holds to give
both better service and more ready access. In spite of the dizzying progress
made by technology, its promise to both save money and appreciably improve
the work lives and educational experiences of faculty, staff and students has
not been satisfactorily realized.

Presentations will be welcomed from people involved in any aspect of
computing, networking or telecommunications in a post-secondary educational
setting - managers, support personnel, teachers, researchers, administrators,
and vendors. (Vendor presentations will be required to have a general
technology rather than a specific marketing focus.) 

Please direct any inquiries or submissions to the programme committee via:

   Phone:      (416) 525-9140 extension 4702

   FAX:        (416) 528-3773

   E-Mail:     oucc93@McMaster.CA

A copy of the complete Call For Papers is available upon request.  


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