HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung)
Subject: Re: O.K., How About DoD MousePads?????
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R&D, U. of Ill.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 14:40:03 GMT

Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Look! Flying purple elephants! Wearing hats! Can't you see them?!
Gummi bears! Gummi bears inside my head!  They're... they're
chewing on my brain!!  My eyeballs are exploding!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: The DoD crowd
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:33:46 GMT

midnight@access.digex.com (Midnight) writes:
>Who's willing to UUENCODE a GIF of Diana and mail it to me so I can
>get to know at least one of you folks?  I'm getting really curious
>here...

The rec.moto.photo archiver server is. The details are in the "What's a
DoD" FAQ that was posted on the 1st, but the basics are you e-mail
server@cerritos.edu with the following message:

dir [dod]
send [dod]diana_boyd.gif
send [dod]AAAREADME.TXT

Which will get you the directory listing, Diana & Harley split, uuencoded,
folded, spindled & mutilated, and the file that describes the pictures.

After that, you might want to drop a line to tanner@cerritos.edu and
express your endless gratitude for services rendered.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "Shaft Effect?"
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:00:23 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 22869@vuse.vanderbilt.edu, dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:
>
>The glacial changes that occur in marques like Harley Davidson, BMW, Moto 
>Guzzi, and Ducati instill an inherant value in the marque itself, not in the 
>model 

Which is why there is so much inherent value in my Z-80/S-100 computer,
huh?

Get a clue, folks!  Some people are interested enough in performance
and innovation to pay for it.  That's why I have a job.  If all you're
going to do is putz around and maybe read news, don't buy a
SPARCStation, your 8086 PC is fine, even "classic."  If you want to do
any serious computer work, and be comptetative at it, I suggest you
upgrade, regularly.

Is it really beyond your comprehension that there is *value* in
innovation at a rate slightly above that of "glacial?"

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "Shaft Effect?"
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:31:17 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 16507@cs.yale.edu, rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>Not of course, that this doesn't apply to the other workstation
>manufacturers as well.

Not to mention motorcycles...

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: truher@s1.gov (Joel Truher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Tires for my GSXR1100?
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:46:29 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Labs, Livermore CA
Originator: truher@s1.gov

Hello rec.motorcycles riders

Does anyone have any anecdotes about tire options for a GSXR1100?

I've got a set of Pirelli MP7's now, with a 180 rear.
These tires work well, but they're pretty expensive.

I don't know what compares in the Metzler/Dunlop/Michelin world,
or what is well suited to this bike (it's an 89 with a wider 
rim).

Thanks

Joel
From: rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (Ninja Squirrel Master)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: DoD make-a-story.
Keywords: Here's the first paragraph
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:42:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomfs


    Ok people, here's your chance to be immortalized.  Below is the first
    paragraph to a story about the DoD.  Take it, and add a paragraph or
    three of your own to it, and we'll see what we end up with.  The
    objective of the game is to a) include as much DoD memorabilia as
    possible without being to overt, b) steal as many lines from good,
    or bad, movies, and c) enlarge upon the already stupendous reputation
    of the DoD as total gnarly, badass, biker dudes and dudettes.

    The only problem with doing something like this in this forum is that
    multiple people may be starting with the same mesg.  How about we
    start with the lowest DoD # and move upwards.  This won't eliminate
    the problem, but you who have low numbers should know whether the
    person below you is on the net or not.

    I will be the official Keeper of the Story, as it develops, much
    as the kids in the pit in the dessert in the last Mad Max flick
    had their Keeper.

    -------------------------------------------------------

    It was a dark, and stormy, night, and the rain was coming down in
    sheets.  As the poison arrows fell from the sky, I hunched my shoulders,
    drawing my oiled, Australian, riders coat, up around my shoulders.
    I reached into my pocket, and extracted my cigarette case.  The engraved
    DoD logo reflected the smudged, yellow light from the Sodium overheads.
    I selected a Turkish Oval, and lit it up with my DoD zippo....
--
    Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.

    "Traditionalists often study what is taught, not what there is to create."
			     - Ed Parker, Grandmaster, American Kenpo.
From: sheinfel@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Aviad Sheinfeld)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Uses for 600R engine
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:54:07 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

An acquaintance squid crashed his Ninja 600R badly a few days ago.
(This was his 4th crash this year - but first BAD one ... like I said,
squid.)  I haven't spoken with him lately, but I saw his bike on the
sidewalk near here.  The front is completely gone - instruments are
trashed, fork probably bent, maybe wheel is bent.  All fairings are
trashed, frame is heavily bent on right side, and broken (!) on left
side.  Even the seat is torn.  Anyway, it seems that the engine is
intact and fine (at least by my hasty inspection).  That's probably
all that's fine except maybe the rear tire, wheel, and sprocket...

I left a note saying I'd be interested in purchasing it.  I'm thinking
something like throwing the 600R engine into a high-miles used EX,
etc.  Any ideas?  Anyone know what the bike is worth?  Assume only the
engine is ok.

Thanks.

Aviad "desperately trying to replace the stolen bike in time to take
racing school and do a few weekends before season end" Sheinfeld

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aviad Sheinfeld		  		   sheinfel@grad1.cis.upenn.edu
Univ. of Pennsylvania, 115 S. 42nd St, 19104-3040	       DoD #513
UPenn in no way takes responsibility for any of my opinions/statements.
From: sandy@beeker.cs.umass.edu (& Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Nighthawk S
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:08:16 GMT
Reply-To: wise@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Organization?  I thought entropy would take care of that...
In-reply-to: meeker@step2.berkeley.edu's message of 16 Apr 92 02:44:21 GMT

I am very pleased with my 84 Nighthawk S.  Comfortable, willing, and
with good manners.  A major selling point for me, was I wanted a
sporty standard... A bike that would have a bit of sport-bike blood in
it, but I could ride to Maine without pain (kind of alliterative,
eh?).  It succeeds in both ways.  It has far more power and handling
than can be used legally, and the saddle and riding position are comfy
enough that I will ride it up the Maine coast to Canada this summer.

I have encountered some maintenance problems with mine, but I can
attribute them to abuse by the previous owner:  I needed to
rebuild the starter motor over the winter (the brushes were about
3mm),and I have a persistent oil leak from the shift assembly case
(which is only aggravated by my insistence on using Mobil-1) I may
have fixed that one.  After replacing the seal, using super RTV, and
everything else -- I carefully cleaned, and enlarged the crank-case
vents... We shall see.

The only consistent problem, that I can report, that I have heard from
other Nighthawk owners is clunky shifting (the reason I use Mobil-1)
-- could also just be a Honda (I really like my friends RZ
tranny...)... 

        /s
--
Alexander Erskine Wise /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Software Development Laboratory
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ WISE@CS.UMASS.EDU /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\ This situation calls for large amounts of unadulterated CHOCOLATE! /\/\/\
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: Lester Wheels/tubeless tires
Originator: dab@space3
Keywords: tires, wheels, bmw
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:02:38 GMT

In article <491@kluge.fiu.edu> berkt@scs.fiu.edu (Toby Berk) writes:
>My wife recently bought a used '78 BMW R80 that came with Lester cast wheels
>and tubes in the tires.  The dealer tells me that we can mount tubless tires
>on the Lesters (after adding valve stems, of course), but I'm a suspicious 
>type.
>Does anyone know if this is OK to do?  If so, is there any risk in removing
>the tubes and remounting the same tires tubeless?  (I'm trying to avoid
>carrying two spare tubes this summer)

It the tires specify "Tubeless Type" on the side, then they will work fine 
without tubes on your Lesters.  It they say "Tube Type" then you MUST use 
a tube even thought the wheels work with tubeless tires.  Lesters are GREAT
wheels, by the way.  

If you're planning on changing your own tires, consider getting a set of
rim protectors.  Three plastic dealies that do what the name sez... should
be available from any Japanese bike shop or mail order house.

On the subject of spare tubes... you can get by with just one spare.  Get
one for the rear tire.  Get one with your rear tire size at the high end
of it's range if you can.  (ie: 3.25-4.25 18 rather than 4.00-4.75)  First
off, front tires rarely pick up things that make them go flat.  Rear flats
are probably 100 times more common.  Second thing, you can use an 18" tube
in a 19" tire IN AN EMERGENGY.  But you can't do it the other way around.
============================================================================
 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: Re: CX500..what the hell
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 18:10:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.154735.3384@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
> karish@mindcraft.com (Chuck Karish) writes:
> >In article <1992Apr7.134624.8181@javelin.sim.es.com>
> >blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
> >>But nobody seems to have mentioned the one really weirdo feature of the
> >>engine: pushrods.
> 
> >What's wrong with pushrods?  Compared to overhead cams
> >(especially on a V-twin, which would need two) they're
> >cheaper, simpler, and lighter in weight.  CX500s spin fine
> >with them.
> 
> Nothing "wrong" with them, just a bit unfashionable perhaps. I just
> meant it as an example of Honda doing something that flies in the face
> of "conventional wisdom". After all, "everyone" knows that pushrod
> engines can't spin fast. :-) You can always count on Honda to come up
> with something strange & wonderful from time to time. Sometimes it makes
> sense, sometimes it doesn't, but I've got to admire them for trying.

Actually in the issue of CW that showed up last week there is an article
about the new MotoGuzzi almost-overhead-cam engine.  It seems that
the cams are offset from the cylinder head and actuate the rocker
arms via 'short' push rods.  

In lower rev'ing engines like V-twins and boxers I don't see anything
wrong with pushrods.  For very high rev'ing engines even very light
pushrods would seem to be more of a limiting factor than valves, no?

-Gary


-- 
Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
From: ir_johns@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Ian Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Insurance Rates (UK)
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:59:41 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: The Transputer Centre, Bristol Polytechnic, UK

In article <17589@oasys.dt.navy.mil> tdsmith@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Timothy Smith) writes:
>>OB MOTO:  How does motorcycle insurance compare to car insurance?  Are
>the rate variations based mostly on power, weight, rider experience or
>location?

Having just renewed both my bike and car insurance, I'm mightly cheesed off.

Bike insurer 
             - third party fire & theft cover
             - increases theft excess from 100 pounds to 400 pounds
             - reduces cc limit from 600 to 450
             - increases no claim discount by 15 percent.
Last year 96 pounds, this years renewal 178 pounds (!!!). Shopping around
this was reduced to 147 pounds. 

Car insurer
             - No change to policy, comprehensive cover, protected
               no claims discount, SO to drive as well as myself,
Last year 126 pounds, this years 140 pounds.

Rider/Driver: Male, 27, Clean record. Full car licence 10 years,
              Full bike licence 2 years + training certificate.

Bike: Kawa KZ400K Ltd ('87), Car: Metro 1.3 HLS ('86)

RANT: Why is it now costing me more to insure the bike than the car!
Is this common? How do insurers arrive at the figures? Whilst bike
insurers have been grumbling about theft losses, even third party only
cover has gone up by silly numbers! Am I stupid to think that the risk
I represent with the bike is less than with the car even though the figures
say different?

-- 

Ian Johnson  (irj@uk.ac.brispoly.hal) 
             Usual disclaimer applies
From: ranck@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: long and slow, or quickie
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:14:52 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computing Center - Distributed Computing Group


   Personally I prefer the long and slow method . . . what?  Motorcycle
batteries?!?  Isn't this alt.sex.wizards?  Damn, never mind.

 *************************************************************************
 * Bill Ranck                  DoD #0496           RANCK@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU *
 * '87 XV535 Virago          '73 Norton Commando    '73 Honda 350-4      *
 * (it gets me there)        (it's a classic)      (it's hard to explain)*
 *************************************************************************
From: shea@ntmtv.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: handshake?  what secret handshake?
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:26:59 GMT



So which one of you clowns recognized my DoD sticker on 101 near
Candlestick this morning?  And how do I get a job as close to
San Francisco as yours?  (Assuming you were on your way to work,
that is.)



---------
Ray Shea			A squid eating dough in a polyethelene
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650	bag is fast and bulbous, got me?
(415)940-2527			
ntmtv!shea@ames.arc.nasa.gov
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: piss off, senner (was: take a pill ed green)
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:26:08 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 191@zx11.UUCP, joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
>
>it seems like since you've lost your bike you've turned into a real asshole.
>I've had a bike stolen too ('80 Z1 Classic to be exact), but I didn't turn 
>into a judgemental dickhead that blamed the rest of the motorcycling community 
>because they didn't stop riding because I couldn't, or because they all didn't
>ride at half mast or some bullshit like that. your original statements reaked
>of jealousy and anger. turn it somewhere besides here, nobody cares to listen
>to your whining. in the past you've said some really intelligent things, but
>not lately. until you get a bike and your personality returns, consider
>yourself dubbed KotFBM (Fecal Brain Matter).

Oh, give me a big, hairy, fucking break!  A guy admits to power
wheelies and slams somebody for doing a stoppie in the SAME article,
then tries to defend it after this incongruity was pointed out.  So I
call the guy a squid.  BHFD.  Then 37 people all tell me about the same
one lone sole individual in the entire universe who can steer on a
wheelie, so that proves it is a safe manuver!!  *I* consider power
wheelies on the street to be squidly behavior and yeah I've done plenty
of 'em and it was then, too.  If you believe that you, not some guy you
saw in a circus show 7 years ago, but **YOU** have greater control of
your motorcycle with the front wheel in the air as you do with it on
the ground then go out and ride that way!  And I'll call you a squid,
too, and who the fuck cares?  And where the *HELL* do you get off
telling me I want anybody to stop riding or ride at half mast or any
other way?  Take your junior birdman psychology bullshit and get the
fuck out of my face.

I think Diana's cute, too.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: re: WHAT TO CALL A HARLEY
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:01:36 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

David Watkins whines:
 
> You people are fools, you have a bitch that every Harley
> rider you see puts shit on you because you ride jap,but then
> you turn around and ut shit on Harleys and the people that
> ride them.
 
Oh, go play in some other playground, or quit whining. Besides,
turnabout is fair play. In other words, you deserve it. ;-)
 
Not to mention, the stuff written under this subject is mild
compared to some of the anti-Japanese motorcycle bigotry that
has graced this newsgroup over the past years.
 
You guys can give it, but you sure can't take it. Whats wrong
with searching for a slang name for an HD? You guys have 'em
out the kazoo for all the non-HD marques. Fair's fair. ;-D
 
> When it was put forward to start a news group rec.harley
> some of you votted against it just because you dont like harleys,
> how pathetic.
 
Where were you when voting took place? I remember HD bigots wanting
to have their own subgroup because they didn't like rice rockets.
Again, whats the point, not everyone likes HD, and not everyone
dislikes it. You think you can change that and make everyone think
the same way? Or that when you poke at someone long enough, they
won't take a poke back at you?
 
I voted "no" to formation of the group because of the people and
their motivation, not because of the marque of motorcycle. I'd vote
"no" to the CFV for rec.motorcycles.zx11 as well. Most people just
wanted to continue to enjoy the wit and intelligent dialog these
folks were providing by participating, and so didn't vote "yes".
 
So, drink some coconut juice and chill out. You don't have anything
to whine about, so quit it! :-)
 
OBMoto: The Associated Press JUST now released a one paragraph blurb
about the Honda NSR (or whatever you call $40,000 of technology). That
tells you something about the value of motorcycling to this society.
At least the DoD contributes to the AMA Heritage Museum fund, and so
indirectly assists in promoting a better public image. A lot of the
HD guys who "left" this newsgroup had DoD numbers, are they being
reached on this, or did the KotL strip them of their membership? :-)))?
 
John 

--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: aj@sri.com (aj)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BICYCLE
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:29:22 GMT

In article <david.19@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU> david@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (David
Watkin) writes:
>Is this group called rec.motorcycles or whogivesashit.bicycle .
>What a waste of time and effort.
>+------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
>David Watkin  79 XLCH                            Internet: D.Watkin@uws.EDU.AU
>Technical Officer                                    Phone: +61 45 70 1446
>University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury               Fax: +61 45 88 5867
>RICHMOND  NSW  2753
>Australia
>
David,
I could not agree with your comments more! My delete key is getting tired.
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Metallic/Ceramic filters suck.
Keywords: anecdote ahead
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:56:56 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <1992Apr15.195156.16594@ncsu.edu> steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier) writes:
>These sound like the kind of filters I've seen installed inline
>in automobile carburetors in the past.  I was once told that they're
>
Uh huh. 
 
>>Since you recommend the paper element filters maybe you could
>>elaborate on your reasons.
>If these ceramic/metallic/whatever filters are so good, I think
>You stated that your filter isn't replaceable, but the one's I'm
>talkin' about can be bought from just about any auto-parts store.

I had some work done to the gas tank in my cage. For reasons which I won't
get into here (ok, so I don't know) something was dissolving in the gas
tank and re-depositing itself in my carburator. It would go right through the
porous metat/brass filter (yes I replaced it) and every month or so I would 
have to do a virtual rebuild. I installed a paper filter and have had no
problems since. The only things the brass ones are good for is entertainment
when you leave it out for someone not familiar with it to come along and
pick it up and ponder its planet of origination.

Jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* Yamama 650 Maxim           | "It's not how fast you go on the fast parts, *  
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) |  it's how fast you go on the slow parts."    * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) |                           - Dilip Ballamore  *  
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