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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:11:27 TUR
From:         "Brian R. Cook, (507) 284-4807,
              Hilton 530" <BCOOK%LPS@VAXDEV.MAYO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: jordan trip
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Tom,

My wife & I travelled to Jordon in 1987 for a friend's wedding.  We were there
10 days in August.  It was wonderful.  We spent most of our time in Amman with
a visit to Jerash.  Jerash is in northern Jordon about halfway between Amman
and Yarmouk.  Jerash was the home of a Roman settlement, the ruins are quite
extensive with columns lining the sides of ancient roman roads.  There is a
complete coliseum that is quite impressive also.  If you are in the area,
Jerash is a must see.

Downtown Amman, in a area called Philadelphia, also has a large roman coliseum
that can seat 600.  The city of Amman has an old downtown that is built into
the moutainous hills and a more spreadout suburbs.  It was a busling,
vigourous city.

We also visited two other areas.  The King Jordon River border crossing to
Israel - this requires special premission; it was interesting, but tense.  The
other are was the Dead Sea.  The Dead Sea is 25% salt so it was facinating
floating in this water; as a matter of fact, it was impossible to go under
because of the incredible bouancy; just do not get the water in your eyes or
any sores, this causes big time stinging.  Also, when we were on the beach, my
wife was the only woman, as she removed here robe and was in her bathing suit,
quite a crowd was attracted, like most of the 50-100 men on the beach; they
all migrated in our direction; it was like being with a movie star - noone did
anything, they were just not used to seeing a woman in a bathing suit.

Those were the main areas we visited, otherwise we did not have much time; the
wedding lasted 5 of the 10 days.  I have heard Petra in southern Jordan is an
increadible site and that visiting Aqaba on the Red sea is nice.

Jordon is a facinating country and we found the people very friendly, I hope
you have a wonderful trip,

Brian Cook

Internet: bcook%lps@vaxdev.mayo.edu

"It is one of the most beautiful compensations of this life that no one can
sincerely try to help another without helping her/himself" - Ralph Waldo
Emerson
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 92 20:19:12 TUR
From:         "Aaron M. Gold" <AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET>
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  Well, for anyone who is interested, the trip to Toronto is back on...
for Wednesday!

  I wonder if it's snowing there yet?  He had a dusting here in Rochester
last night, slick roads and all...

  Aaron
  ag9021@brock1p.bitnet
From: bcleveland@IGC.APC.ORG (Bradley Cleveland)
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Subject: Re: Jamaica
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:13:57 GMT
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Wendy,

We have been to Jamaica twice, and we found that Port Antonio
was more laid back than the Montego Bay/Negril area.  There
are less tourists, it's more lush, and there are far fewer
hassles.

We stayed at Frenchmen's Cove, but I don't think the place
was ever rebuilt after it was hit by a hurricane a few years
back.  Last time we stayed on this little island, 5 minutes
from Port Antonio by ferry boat.  I can't remember the name of
the place.  Be warned that Port Antonio is better for a couple,
interested in a romantic trip, than some single people looking
for a wild time.

--Brad
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From:         LOUG8680@SNYPLAVA.BITNET
Subject:      Kauai,hawaii
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Date sent:  9-NOV-1992 21:49:58

         I'm writing to anyone intrested in going to Hawaii.  I went on
vacation there with my friend two years ago.  The only island I've been to
is Kauai.  I think it is the better island if your looking for a place that
doesn't have alot of tourism.  It's a great trip but going to Hawaii is
very expensive.  Any specific questions I'd be glad to answer.
                                     Janelle
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Date sent:  9-NOV-1992 19:32:28
DEAR KATHLEEN AND AARON,
   NOW YOU TWO MUST STOP THIS SQUABBLING.  I'M SURE TEDDY RUXPIN CAN GET
QUITE ANNOYING, BUT SHOULD WE REALLY KILL HIM?  HE'S ACTUALLY VERY CUTE.
FAO IS GORGEOUS, I ADMIT.  I COULD PROBABLY OCCUPY MYSELF THERE ALL DAY.
HAVE EITHER OF YOU, OR  ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER INTERESTS?  YOU ARE ON
THE TRAVEL LIST, SO TELL ME, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO?  I AM A BIG TRAVELER.
IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ASK ME.  OR IF YOU'D JUST LIKE TO
TALK ABOUT ANYTHING.  WE NEED A GOSSIP LINE HERE!  WHAT OTHER STORES DO YOU
GUYS LIKE TO SHOP IN, IN THE CITY?  DO YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME THERE, OR
JUST TIME IN FAO?  I LOVE SHOPPING IN THE CITY, AND HANGING OUT THERE.
HAVE YOU BEEN OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES?  I'VE TRAVELED TO MANY COUNTRIES.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, THOUGH, DO EITHER OF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY
SUGGESTIONS ABOUT SPRING BREAK '93?  I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO OR WHAT TO DO
.
HELP!!!!
                   -JENN-AT SUNYP
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From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: UNSUBSCRIBE ME, DAMMIT!
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Oh, Debbie, you're so cute when you're mad!

Seriously now, what you need to do is to send an unsub request to listserv
at trearn FROM THE SAME ADDRESS YOU SUBSCRIBED FROM.  Since the address
you said it had for you is an Internet-style domain address, you must address
it that way when you unsub.  If you are running ricemail, try sending to
LISTSERV@TREARN.BITNET.  That's a start anyway.  And don't omit the .BITNET,
if this suggestion works it will be because of the .BITNET.    Dave

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941
From: Nancy_R_DEUEL@UMAIL.UMD.EDU (nd26)
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Subject: USA traveler's advisory
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:28:00 GMT
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You asked for it, you got it!
------------------------------------------------------------------
Washington Post, Friday, November 6, 1992:

The American Automobile Association, citing a continued hail of sniper
bullets and rocks along a major north-south highway, has issued an unusual
warning that its members should avoid Interstate [highway] 295 around
Jacksonville, Florida.

...

The incidents ... included 15 shootings at vehicles from roadside or
overpasses and five shootings from one car to another. ...


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Good grief, it sounds just like the news from Sarajevo.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 92 09:32:14 +0100
From:         dacier@LAAS.LAAS.FR
Subject:      Re: backpacking through Europe
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At 19:25 4/11/92 +0000, Keith Allan Schneider wrote:
>
>
>After I graduate from college (ie Summer, 1994), I am thinking about
>backpacking through Europe for at least two months or so.  Has anyone
>else done this?  If so, any preparation advice would be helpful.  I
>have seen books in the bookstore that offer such advice, but I though
>first-hand reports would be better.
>

...

>
>Also, if this stuff is in the FAQ, let me know (I haven't seen a FAQ
>list around anywhere).

Take a look at the Archives of this list. There has been many questions
lately about travel in Europe and, ... also, answers. Especially, a good
book has been quoted (I don't remember the name) and you could find his
reference there.

Anyway, if you need specific information about South of France or Belgium,
just let me know. I'll be glad to help you.

        Marc.
__________________________________________________________________
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From: smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
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Subject: Kauai
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:43:11 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

Before one ventures to Kauai, which is certainly my preferred island
among Maui, the Big Island (a close second), and Oahu, I would look
into recovery from recent hurricane damage.

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Subject:      Re: jhp
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On Sun, 8 Nov 92 16:08:00 MDT <LDENNING@DUCAIR> said:
>You're wrong.  One can find VERY CHEAP hotel soap anywhere, particularly
>if you're staying in a cheap hotel.

I agree.  I don't think I ever said the contrary.  I believe I said it
is much more common outside the US, particularly in third world
countries.  This has mostly to do with how much I pay for hotel rooms
and how impoverished some third world countries are.  It is not a
comment on anyone's friendliness, hospitality, intelligence or morality,
or any other characteristic.

>Comment:  Why is it that every message that you post is negative?

I don't agree with this.  Do you think the post above is negative?  I
don't.  I post lots of positive stuff about places I know well enough to
know positive stuff about.  Places I don't know much about I usually
don't post about.

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
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    To somebody,
            I was thinking about studying abroad in Mexico. Does anyone
know anything about the schools there?  Does anyone know what it would be
like to live there?  How is the food?  How is the night life?  Are people
in general nice?
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 92 10:30:00 EDT
From:         HANES91@SNYPOTVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: any ideas?
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One package that I can think of that would have all of that would be
The Big Red Boat [Premiere Cruise lines].

They offer a combination of packages that include airfare/hotel and
a cruise to the bahamas.  It also includes a car rental and I believe
tickets to cape canaveral.

I took this several years ago and enjoyed it very much.

Bill Hanes
HANES91@SNYPOTVA.BITNET
GEnie E-Mail TRAVELITE
Ogdensburg NY USA
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Subject: SPRING BREAK
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:17:00 GMT
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Date sent:  10-NOV-1992 19:17:16
From: pinto@GCH.ULAVAL.CA (Jose-Henrique Pinto)
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Dave Gomberg wrote

                    I often find that VERY CHEAP hotel soap
                     has either too much or too little lye
                     in it.  If too little, the soap is greasy,
                     if too much, it is harsh and caustic
                     This most often occurs in third world
                    countries.  Charm is charm, but I do need
                    usable soap.

I feel that Mr. Gomberg is associating bad products to 3rd World
countries. Am I right or wrong?

--jhp
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From:         Barry Bouwsma <ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      LISTSERVs galore!
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>
>My colleagues and I are just cutting our e-mail teeth; so far we know of this
>listserve, but would also like information on how to join others. Areas of
>interest include dogs/pets; music (specifically blues and
>late-seventies/early-eighties punk and new wave--anything from The Velvet
>Underground to The Clash, Antmusic to OLD B-52s, and everything in between);
>films; screenwriting; playwriting; writingwriting; etc. We know they're out
>there, we just don't know where.


To give a general reply which will be of use to anybody, what you want to
look at is a List of Lists.  Here are a couple that I know of:

If you send a message with the line
LIST GLOBAL
to this listserver (LISTSERV@TREARN.BITNET -- *NOT* TRAVEL-L@TREARN.BITNET)
you will be sent a loooong list of lists known to this server.

A list of lists can be found with gopher if you are familiar with it; one
place I know of to look is the OASIS Information Service at Ohio State
University.  Their menu includes a line: Information Resources, which
includes BITNet Interest groups.  This is a long list, I only glanced at
the beginning to see if it would have items of interest to you and to the
TRAVEL-L community.  I'm sure there's something for everybody in it, with
information on how to get onto each list.
This same list can be obtained by anonymous ftp if you know how to use that
from ftp.nisc.sri.com under netinfo/interest-groups.
Or you can get the same list by e-mail from mail-server@nisc.sri.com
by sending the message
SEND NETINFO/INTEREST-GROUPS

I bet you'll find several groups you want to participate in.
Sorry, I'm too lazy to peruse the entire list for the topics you specified...

Happy hunting!

--
The preceding does not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the author
			Barry Bouwsma,            ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU [Internet]

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Date sent:  8-NOV-1992 21:13:56

        There is no such thing as stupid questions.  I actually like the
breadth of the question and am looking forward to the possibilities that
will ensue.
        I'd like to say come to Norther New York at this time of the year
but, alas, it's been snowing off an on all day.
        Have you considered Southeast Asia?  Accomodations, travel and food
are cheap and the culture's quite different from what we in the West are
accustomed to.


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   TNET"  "Tara Kerley", IN%"KLEI7497@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"  "christine kleinhans", I
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>CC:
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Date sent:  9-NOV-1992 19:03:39
HI!  I AM A BIG TRAVELER AND I'VE NEVER SEEM TO COME ACROSS MANY SNOBBY
PEOPLE IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES.  ACTUALLY, PEOPLE SEEM QUITE INTRIGUED BY
AMERICANS.  ESPECIALLY, IN ENGLAND.  I'VE BEEN THERE TWICE TO GO TO THE
WIMBLEDON TENNIS TOURNAMENT.  PEOPLE WERE VERY FRIENDLY AND KIND.   THE
FRENCH AND DUTCH WERE VERY FRIENDLY ALSO.  IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TRAVEL TO
AN EXCITING COUNTRY, TRY ENGLAND, ITALY, OF HOLLAND.  FRANCE IS ACTUALLY
NOT AS FUN AS THE OTHERS.  IT'S BEAUTIFUL, DON'T GET ME WRONG.  I WOULD
JUST RECOMMEND THE OTHERS FIRST.  IF YU WERE TO TRAVEL TO ITALY, YOU CAN GO
TO FLORENCE, ROME, PISA, VENICE, AND SOME OTHER BEAUTIFUL CITIES.  IN
ENGLAND, I SPENT MOST OF MY TIME IN LONDON.  IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW ANYTHING
SPECIFIC ABOUT ANY CITIES, PLACES TO STAY, OR ATTRACTIONS PLEASE CONTACT ME
.  MY CODE ROTH3866.
                            -JENN
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From:         Roger <CARROLL@SCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Sedona/Oak Creek Canyon - Arizona
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RE:  Recent Discussion of Sedona and Oak Creek Canyon in Arizona

Today's Phoenix newspaper carried the following:

U.S. 89A, the winding road that runs along Oak Creek Canyon from Sedona
to Flagstaff, has been named to Scenic America's list of "10 Most
Outstanding Scenic Byways for 1992."

The non-profit organization selected the stretch of Arizona highway because of
"its notable scenic qualities and protection programs to ensure the future of
those qualities."

U.S. 89A also is designated an Arizona Scenic highway.

                              -30-

                                                  ---roger
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I agree with the following comment... I would add, also stay in
Oaxaca Mexico. I spent 2 weeks in Oaxaca, Puerto Escondido, and
Puero Angel a few years ago, and enjoyed it enough to do a return
visit next week !   Oaxaca is a lively colonial city in south centeral
Mexico with great markets, sidewalk cafe's .. etc.  Puerto Escondido
is on the Pacific coast south of Alcapulco.  Oaxaca to the coast is
an 8 hour bus ride , or 1 hour flight (for about $50.00).

Has anyone been to Zihuantanaho (sp?) , I'm thinking of stoping there
during my trip to Mexico in the next 2 weeks.

Thanks.
Louis Crispino.  Tulane Univ. New Orleans LA

> >  PLEASE SEND ME ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME ABOUT A NEW AND
> >EXCITING PLACE TO TRAVEL IN THE WORLD????????????????
>
> Jennifer,
>          Try Zipolite, Mexico. Between Puerto Escondido and Puerto Angel.
> Not new, only one real night-club, but lots of socializing.
>                                          Dean
>
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Date sent:  11-NOV-1992 15:30:45



>From:  IN%"TRAVEL-L@TREARN.BITNET"  "Tourism Discussions.." 10-NOV-1992 11:07:3
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>To:    IN%"LADUED@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"  "DAN LADUE", IN%"LAFO7267@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"
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     Ranette,
             When I went to Kauai I stayed in a place called the Cliffs
Club.  I went with my friend and her parents and they had a time share
there.  It was a very nice place, although it wasn't right on the beach.
The beach was a few minutes away.  It's not that touristy.  One nice thing
to do there is go on a Napali coast boat ride.  It's a piece of the island
that doesn't have any roads.  It's really beautiful, they stop the boat and
you can go snorkling.  They also have trails in that area which will take a
full day but I heard it's worth.  As far as pricing goes I didn't go to any
othe islands so I couldn't tell you about that.  Keep in mind if your
leaving soon, there was a huricane there recently!
                                              Janelle
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From:         "Scott D. Stevens" <STEV8113@SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
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Date sent:  4-NOV-1992 19:15:56
 I just want to thank Bill and Brian for taking the time to give me some
helpful information about the Bahamas. Hopefully our plans will pull
through. Thanks for your tips!
                                          Scott Stevens
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Oh, Debbie, you're so cute when you're mad!

Oh, Dave, you're so manly when you're condescending.

Oh, Howard, you're so dumb.

Oh, for God's sake, get a life.
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