HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: turner@rastaman.llnl.gov (David Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Carburetor rebuild kits
Keywords: sabre
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:23:19 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Originator: turner@rastaman.llnl.gov

I recently posted, asking for info/tips on rebuilding the 4 carburetors on my
1982 Honda Sabre.  I received many useful responses, and no flames.  Oh well.
A couple responders said I shouldn't buy any parts until I have the carbs
apart, and only replace those pieces that "need" replacing.  Based on my expert
judgement, I guess (sarcasm -- I am a novice at this).  I had intended on 
replacing every single part for which there was a replacement in the rebuild 
kits.  So, what is typically included in a "factory rebuild kit"?  Should I go 
ahead and buy the kits ahead of time, as per my original plan, or should I only 
buy selected pieces?

On a related note, I also intended to replace the rubber "intake manifolds"
connecting the carbs to the cylinder heads.  They are just short pieces of
sturdy rubber hose.  They cost more than they should.  Doesn't everything?
Some people say I probably won't need to do this, but I think after 10 years,
it's probably a good idea to replace 'em.  Comments?

Thanks for you advice...later...DT

------------
David Turner
dturner@llnl.gov -OR- turner@rastaman.llnl.gov
(510) 422-1162   
'82 VF750S    DoD#0373
Disclaimer:  All opinions are mine.  None are theirs.
From: R.Collins@newcastle.ac.uk (R. Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New Toy!!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:08:19 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1992Sep1.144232.6659@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, mdc2@pyuxe.uucp (25493-corrado) writes:
>In article <LOTTO.92Sep1073544@laura.harvard.edu>, lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>> >>>>> On 31 Aug 92 13:47:20 GMT, mdc2@pyuxe.uucp (25493-corrado) said:
>> Mitch> I shoulda' stayed with my '81 GpZ550.  My 500 likes to move out, but is
>> Mitch> not to keen on stopping; I do wish it had a stronger rear-brake.
>> 
>> At the risk of rekindling some (thankfully) cold ashes...
>> 
>> Why?
>
>First off, I love the EX500.  But the GpZ holds a special place in my heart;
>the machine is an absolute joy to ride.  Although the '81 GpZ is not the most
>impressive looking bike (sort of a standard hoping to imitate a sport bike by
>the addition of a tiny, near useless fairing and windscreen), the GpZ makes
>you forget the image part of riding and just take pleasure in the ride.  It
>is so smooth, the bike seems to flow around the road.  Smooth is definitely
>the operative word; in acceleration, shifting, and braking.  The riding 
>position is comfortable, and the weight (470+ I think) makes it stable both
>at highway and slow (~5 mph) speeds.  I'm gonna' hate selling it this month.
>

Errr, I think you've missed the point of the "Why?",  but maybe its better left
that way.

___
Raybo		DoD#1058		XBR500
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: fuel problems on a CM400T -- need HELP!
Followup-To: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu
Summary: bike runs like shit, needs net-help
Originator: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:34:05 GMT

my buddy in pittsburgh has an old cm400t with a fuel problem.  after having
a retired mechanic tune it up/get it roadworthy after two years in storage
(included rebuilding/synching the carbs 'by ear'), it presents the following
symptoms:

choke on:  idles high, starts out fine from rest, ok at speed

choke off: idles fine, bogs badly when pulling out, tough to get the speed
           over 40mph or so.

i don't know if the bike has a fuel filter (doubt it), rusty tank, really
old oil (think so); the carb rebuild did require kits (he bitched about the
cost, considering the state of the bike).  if more details are needed, i'll
get and provide them.  i'd suspected it was the 'other' adjustment besides
the idle set (can't remember the name, wouldn't be able to find it anyway)
on the carb, but y'all know plenty more than i do, so ....

all replies, net or email, will be appreciated.  jason's mailserver is out of
commission temporarily, so respond via net or email to me and i'll pass them
along.  thanks.

------------
cliff weston
dod# 0598

i love the fiamms.
the fiamms are my (only) friends.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: riding clothes choices
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:15:43 GMT

randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.213019.26541@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>|randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:

>|>  For that matter, the aerostitch
>|>isn't any better than denim in abrasion resistance, as far as I know
>|>(please correct me if I err).

>|You err.  :-)

>|At 50 mph the results were:
>|3 oz leather		86'  0" 
>|Kevlar		22'  1" 
>|Codura Nylon		18'  3"
>|Denim, 2 year old	 4' 0.5"

>  Am I to assume that aerostich is made from either Kevlar or Codura Nylon,
>then?  You fail to make the connection in your post...

You mean that everyone doesn't have all the specs for the Aerostich suit
memorized? What's the world coming to?  :-)

It's Goretex backed Cordura nylon, with "temperfoam" pads & ballistic
nylon patches at the knees, elbows & shoulders.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: new bike .vs. vasectomy
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:54:42 PDT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <2342@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner) writes:

> Uptight Bitch (tm)

sorry, joe, you'll have to stand in line to call me names.  i doubt
you have the credentials, anyway, but you can wait if you like.

-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
From: tun@quark.SFSU.EDU (Coban Tun)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: test
Date: 29 Aug 92 08:21:28 GMT

plese ignore

Ct
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Accident Report
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:43:46 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Aug25.160248.24210@rtsg.mot.com>, svoboda@rtsg.mot.com
(David Svoboda) wrote:
> 
> Well, I take some measure of responsibility for not seeing the
> dog soon enough to avoid it.  That responsibility is probably worth
> about $100 and some time without the bike.  I think the dog was a
> black lab, which is a valuable dog, so I figure the owner suffered
> enough financially and emotionally that I really don't feel too good
> about piling a lawsuit on him.  Besides, a lawsuit would probably
> cost me more than fixing the bike. And, of course, I don't like
> lawyers.  :-/

100 merit points. Thank you, Dave.
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh)
Subject: Re: What to put on chrome pipes??
Reply-To: groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:07:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.060753.19494@icf.hrb.com> mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:
>Can somebody recommend something to put on chrome pipes to keep them from
>rusting while my bike is stored for the winter.  -- 
>
Clean them carefully with any good chrome polish and then wax them
with a brand name carnuba (sp?) wax.  Works for me, (when I lived
in michigan and had to store my bikes it did anyway)

>                                                              Mike Kelley
>                                                              HRB Systems
>                                                              St. College, Pa.
>DoD # 645              Go Nittany Lions !!!             Beat The Bearcats!!!
--
Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: new bike .vs. vasectomy
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:07:09 PDT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <1992Aug28.121402.23114@worldbank.org>, aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org> writes:
> On a local shock radio show here (DC101), a woman just called up and 
> said she's really pissed because her husband just took the money he
> was supposed to use for a vasectomy and bought a motorcycle!
> Now THERE'S a guy who should get an honorary DoD#!

irresponsibility in things that matter is no great attribute, nor does
it bode well for his attitude about OTHER things that matter, like
riding well.  quite the contrary.  i am NOT impressed. 
 
-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Re: Riding Two on a CBR600F2
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:56:15 GMT

In article <msbogd-270892145137@enterprise.lerc.nasa.gov>  
msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael S. Bogdanski) writes:
=>Recently, I've carried a passenger on my '92 CBR600F2.  It seemed like a
=>great idea until my crotch was smashed up against the gas tank while
=>slowing and my privates were smashed, causing quite a bit of discomfort. 
=>Also, I found that there was a tremendous extra load put on my arms while
=>slowing down due to the increased weight from behind.  I weigh about 175lb
=>and my passenger about 110lb.  Has anyone figured out a method for
=>minimizing/eliminating these uncomfortable and painful encounters while
=>carrying a passenger?
=>

A nice soft pillow????

=>Michael S. Bogdanski
=>msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
=>NASA Lewis Research Center

--
Paul S. Sears                *  sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston    *  suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center *  comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration   *  DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC 
          >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: jearls@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Jeffrey David Earls)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: carb synchronizer recommendations?
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:48:53 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Aug28.130646.4130@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Dave Edmondson) writes:
>
>When this was discussed on a list here the general opinion was that a set of 
>mercury manometers was preferable to dial guages. They work out cheaper as 
>well but I don't know if you'll be able to buy then in the states without 
>signing a toxic products liability waiver..
>

I didn't encounter any problems like this (here in the States).  I just
went down to the local Honda/Yamaha shop and asked for a mercury
manometer for carb synching purposes.  They said, "Here you go, that'll
be $39.95".

Note however that there were _no_ toxicity warnings on the bottle of mercury.
There was a "Don't breathe the vapors" warning on the instruction sheet.  The
little poison skull-and-crossbones symbol was completely absent.   

So of course, I took it that the mercury was non-toxic and made a milkshake 
with it. %-P


Ride Safe,

--Jeff

===============================================================================
|Jeff Earls  jearls@tekig6.pen.tek.com | DoD #0530  KotTG   WMTC  AMA #coming |
|'89 FJ1200 - Millennium Falcon        |   Squid Factor: 3.67 and climbing... | 
|'86 VF500F - Igor!  It's _ALIVE_!!!!  | "Hit the button Chewie!"... Han Solo |

                       "The net is a weird place" 
		         	      .... Blaine Gardner
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:46:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <AebLtTa00Uh_87zTYB@andrew.cmu.edu> "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>>Anyway, smart ass, how do you teach somebody how not to drop a bike when
>>>what happens is:  They pull up in front of where you're calmly sitting,
>>>real proud of your student for such a smooth stop, say hi to you, and
>>>just let the fucking thing topple over on its side (while gracefully
...
>>to put her feet down when she stops.  If she's accustomed to riding behind
>>you, she's had lots of practice stopping with her feet on the pegs.
>>Perhaps this "reflex" kicked in?
>
>Her feet *were* down, dammit, that's what I can't figure out.

Maybe she was countersteering?  The only thing that makes sense is
that perhaps her feet were too close together...  (I'd suggest the
standard answer, i.e., that she's an uptight you-know-what, but that'd
be both incorrect and unproductive.  Well, productive, but the wrong way. :')
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Loud pipes (Was riding clothes choices )
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:31:30 GMT

john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:

>the cop couldn't write me for speed because he couldn't stay in
>sight of me to clock me.

Sounds like .signature fodder to me. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Earplugs
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:08:34 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <1992Sep1.184936.18977@exu.ericsson.se> lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos) writes:
>As the helmet is buffeted by the air/bugs it moves/hits the foam. This can have
>your ears ringing in no time. If you don't believe me, try it. Insert the
>foamy thingies in your ear wait a bit then tap them VERY lightly with your
>finger, they will sound very loud.
>

I use the little yellow foamy thingies all the time. Mine are the E.A.R
and are rated at NRR of 29dB.  I had wax buildup  problems in the beginning
but my ears seem to have adjusted to it.  I really like them, and have
had no problem with them.  ( I would like to try some of these 33dB plugs,
though.)  It could be though that my SHOEI helmet has more room around 
the ears so my shell doesn't come into contact.  I noticed also that my
plugs go way down into my canals, sometimes far enough to make it slightly
difficult to get them out.  But I always wear ear plugs unless I'm 
travelling less than a mile or two.

>C) Compleatly seal the face screen with thin velvet strips that
>   stick on one side.
>

I'm definitely going to do something like this.  I can't stand the
cold draft (air, not beer) across my face in the mornings created by the 
lack of a good seal.

>Stamos <lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se>            ZZR11            Ellas

Kevin M.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Subject: Re: Harley for SALE
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:44:46 GMT


In a previous article, djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie) says:

>
>

???

Must have gotten himself a porch.

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------>DarkMan-------->
Case Western Reserve University,  Cleveland, Ohio            DoD #650
Anyone know where a mechanical engineer can get a job?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: European bike ride
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:33:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.133534.12065@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:

>Get real, get a life, get a geography book!
>I saw on telly recently that 9 out of 10 Americans didn't know where the
>UK was on a globe so I shouldn't be too hard on you after all.

you misheard: they said that 9 out of 10 americans didn't *care* where the
uk was on a globe.  count me in that nine.

do you really need a :-) ?

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From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:18:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.233643.28004@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>
>Have you _ever_ seen an accurate fuel gauge on a bike?

Yes, I see one on my Ducati several times each day...

Steve

-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
From: scooper@cse.ucsc.edu (Scott Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Not so Swift.
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:26:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: wappo.ucsc.edu


	Mr. Swift piqued my curiosity some about this DoD thingy. 
With all the atrocious grammar and pitiful groveling that he 
displayed in his pursuit of a number, I figured it might actually
be tough.

	So I checked what the FAQ had to say, and having read this
group for a mere couple of months, the clues lead me right to the
KoTL.  A pleasant email message later:

Scott Cooper			'91 Honda Hawk (coming soon)
DoD #2469

Sheesh.  Some people.
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:10:22 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Aug31.132106.14667@ohrd.uucp> ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine) writes:
>blah, blah blah, indeed.
>
>I say we ignore him.

Ignore who?

Jody, are you reading netnews while watching "Manimal" reruns again?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Flat tire : What do you do ?
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:13:31 GMT
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:

>    If you get a flat in the middle of a city,
>    you can call somebody to pick it up.  What would
>    you do if you get a flat somewhere 100 miles from
>    a city at midnight ?  

  My can of Fix-a-Flat works anywhere/anytime.  I've only had 1 flat
on the street in the last 15 years so I hope my current can still works.

  I carry a plug kit when I'm out touring but from all I've read about
how well the fix goop works I doubt I'd ever use it.

Don't leave home without it,

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Rainsuit
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:03:02 GMT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <1539@adpplz.UUCP>, martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding) writes:
>> ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine) writes:
> 
>>>  The best solution I've found for gloves is vinyl, medical type rubber gloves
>>>  over my ordinary summer, unlined racing gloves. 
> 
> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
> 
>> before i moved from chicago to god's country, i spent a good bit of
>> riding time in precip, snow, rain, sleet, even hail.

> Precisely. Entirely true. Which is why I am here, once again, recommending
> (yeah, boring.) Hippo Hands (tm), or their substitute.

but do they keep you dry, martin?  i have always thought of them
more as a replacement for heated hand grips, rather than keeping
the rain out.

-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: duke@cupid.uucp (Duke Robillard)
Subject: Re: Lyrics Flame (Was Re: Popping Them)
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:50:07 GMT

In an article tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
>duke@cupid.uucp (Duke Robillard) writes:
>>
>>    In the day we sweat out on the streets of a run-away American Dream
>>    In the night we ride through the mansions of glory in suicide machines
>>    Sprung from Cages on Highway Nine
>>    chrome wheeled, fuel-injected and steppin' out over the line
>>
>>    Baby this town rips the bones from your back, it's a deathtrap
>>    a suicide rap
>>    We gotta get out while we're young,
>>    `Cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run.
>
>And, after reading these uplifting lyrics, anyone who wishes to can
>try to explain why there were some here in NJ who felt that this
>should become the "State Song". Strange and gettin' stranger.

Because New Jersey is an existential angst-pit, fit only for brain-dead
high school drop-outs.  It's also good as a place from which to escape.
Consequently, the song captures the state's karma perfectly.

It didn't make it though.  I think they chose "I love NJ" instead.



Duke Robillard            DoD #130
duke@cc.bellcore.com      {backbone}!bcr!cupid!duke
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