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From: billq@ms.uky.edu (Billy Quinn)
Subject: Re: What was the requested song at other concerts?
    <1992Nov12.170707.16133@ms.uky.edu> <2235@sousa.tay.dec.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:46:14 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

mcintyre@sousa.tay.dec.com (Jon McIntyre) writes:

>In article <1992Nov12.170707.16133@ms.uky.edu> jayh@ms.uky.edu (Jay Hofacker) writes:
>>
>>In Cinicinatti it was "Electric Avenue."
>>
>>They also played a very strange version of "Instanbul."  About half way
>>through, they stopped using instruments, turned the reverb WAY up and
>>sang REAL SLOW.  Beforehand they warned that this was the 'artistic'
>>part of the show that we had to put up with before they got to the good
>>stuff.
>>--

>Hmm.  Did Flansburgh sing just the words "Istanbul, Constantinople,
>Istanbul, Constantinople, Istanbul, Constantinople, Istanbul..."
>over and over during this part?  I heard a tape that was made many years
>ago that had Flansburgh singing it like that, with no instruments, and
>experimenting with echo sound effects.  I'd be real curious to know
>if they repeated exactly that at the show you were at.

>Jon McIntyre
>mcintyre@cronic.enet.dec.com

Yep.  I was at that one too.  The song started out normal (only accordian
though) then they started doing the loooong delayed words.  But it was
both of the guys not just John F.  It was a little similar to the intro
to 'Money for Nothing' you know where sting sings "I want my MTV" (gag)

pretty cool show - 


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From: baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Re: Kids love TMBG (was Re: Mammal)
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:36:17 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dep't., U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
In-reply-to: hugh@slee06.srl.ford.com's message of 23 Nov 92 13:18:42 -0400

[I cross-posted this to misc.kids for the express purpose of starting
a potentially entertaining "Sesame Street" flame war. --jd]

In article <By6IrB.25p@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com> hugh@slee06.srl.ford.com
(Hugh Fader) writes, quoting garym@cs.umb.edu (Gary MacDougall):
>: I was just pondering the other night about the song "Mammal" and
>: how wonderfully educational this song is. I couldn't help but think 
>: that it would be really cool if "John and John" could do a sorta 
>: educational album, maybe even a childrens album.
>
>My kids (ages 9, 7, and 4) love They Might Be Giants. They especially
>like:
>
>Turn Around
>Pencil Rain
>Particle Man
>Istanbul Not Constantinople
>Fingertips
>
>Also, they tell me that Particle Man and Istanbul Not Constantinople
>have been played on Tiny Toons.
>
>Do others have kids that are fans?

I have a two-year-old who *loves* TMBG.  At bedtime, if Mom is doing
it, she wants to sing "Twinkle Twinkle, Little Star" and such.  If Dad
is doing it, she wants to sing "Particle Man," "Cowtown," "Istanbul,"
and/or a couple of others.  She actually gets excited at the prospect
of hearing some of these songs.  (She also likes Jonathan Richman.)

I told John F. about this in Baltimore and he said we ought to bring
her to a show.  I replied that they usually start a bit past her
bedtime.  (When a friend of mine mentioned to John F., in California,
that he knew a two-year-old--he was referring to my daughter--who
likes TMBG, he said, "Call social services!")

Unfortunately, she and her little friends are discovering the TV about
now and her aesthetic senses are being dulled by tripe like "Sesame
Street" and "Barney and Friends."  Alas.
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From: stevie@soda.berkeley.edu (Steven Collins)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Re: Other groups with TMBG flavor
Date: 23 Nov 1992 22:05:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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I said something about this a while back, but I thought I'd mention it
again in this newer, improveder context.

A cool guy who is closely tied to and admired by tmbg is Otis Ball.
His album is on Bar-None Records and is called "I'm Gonna Love You
'Til I Don't."  Tmbg sing backup on one of the tracks.  If you like
it, I know where to get more...I've got connections...(and besides,
you haven't lived if you haven't heard Sensitive Guy...why they left
that off the album is beyond me...)

Also, if you get it, the guy who sings lead on "Hey Buddha" and
"Honesty in a Modern Relationship" was once my Residential Counselor
in high school...but really, nepotism aside, it's a great album....

Steven.
From: garym@cs.umb.edu (Gary MacDougall)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Re: Mammal
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:44:21 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

In article <1e8th5INNa33@bigboote.WPI.EDU> kay@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (k) writes:
>In article <1=F=2TA@engin.umich.edu> turtle@engin.umich.edu (Matthew M Edwards ) writes:
>>
>>
>>In the song Mammal....
>>
>>Thier names are called, they raise a paw
>>the bat, the cat, dolphin and dog, koala bear and hog
>>
>>I thought koala bears were Marsupials?  (Referenced later in song)
>
>>
>>Am I missing something?  Am I just being stupid?
>
[Stuff deleted about Marsupials]

I was just pondering the other night about the song "Mammal" and
how wonderfully educational this song is. I couldn't help but think 
that it would be really cool if "John and John" could do a sorta 
educational album, maybe even a childrens album.

"Mammal" is such a great example of a song that while your listening 
to it (as a TMBG's fan) your also saying "Wow, I didn't know that!".
Now we all know that these guys are smart, but after reading this 
newsgroup for a while, Im coming to the realization that TMBG 
are a little smarter than we thought. Hell, I read a few previous posts
that the authors talked about finding references from a TMBG show 
in the encyclopedia!!! My god, they've got us learning?

When was the last time any of us dusted off the encyclopedia to look 
up a anything of non-importance? Hmmm. I confess, not I.

I have to admit, these guys DO make me think a bit' more than the average
bands that I listen too. I've also found that I sometimes can't listen to them 
while I study or work, they're much too distracting (I find my mind 
wandering into the content of thier songs...).


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Subject: Re: "They"s Albums??
From: thomas@cps.msu.edu (William Thomas)
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:37:20 GMT
Reply-To: thomas@cps3xx.cps.msu.edu (William Thomas)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: thomas@cps3xx.cps.msu.edu

I think I should bring this up since everyone is talking about all of TMBG's
maix-singles. Along with the other three CD singles(Istanbul not Constantinople
I Palindrome I, and The Guitar) I have also seen a CD single that was titled
Ana ng. It was in the import section of the music store. You might think about
picking that one up as well. Unfortunately I don't remember the other songs
on the disc. There were about 4 or 5 songs on the disc, all were previously
released. I do remember that much.

Just my two cents,
worth about a half a cent thanks to "Slick Willie"

Bill
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From: thomasc@athena.mit.edu (Thomas Wallace Colthurst)
Subject: Re: Other groups with TMBG flavor
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:26:40 GMT

TMBG fans might also enjoy Color Blind James Experience, a band loosly 
affiliated with the Church of the SubGenius.  Their newest album is
entitled "Noises in the Basement."  A lyric sample:

I'm considering a move to Memphis,
Memphis, Tennessee.
It worked for Elvis Presley,
Why can't it work for me?

-Thomas C

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From: lra00@pecan.spa.amdahl.com (Larry R. Ader)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg,rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: They Might Be Giants in concert
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:07:11 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation  Sunnyvale, CA

In article <1992Nov22.220043.8351@cheshire.oxy.edu>, mike_p@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael John Petterson) writes:
|> I saw They Might Be Giants in concert this past Friday at Fairfax auditorium,
|> with the Young Fresh Fellows opening in L.A.

I saw a similar version of the concert at the Great American Music Hall in
San Francisco on Sun. Nov. 15th.  The Young Fresh Fellows opened for them
that night also.

|> TMBG finally came out and opened with "The Guitar".  It was a pretty "hit"
|> filled concert, with the occasional rare gem such as "Hide Away Folk Family"
|> "Toddler Hiway", and from fingertips "I'm having a heart attack" (a personal
|> experience, according to John L.)  The only thing I'm hyper-bummed at, is
|> that I've only heard them perform "Put your hand inside the puppet head"
|> once, and that was a few years ago.  It sounds fabulous live.

What are you saying??  John Linell actually had a heart attack?!?  How old
is he?  Around 30 maybe?

I've seen TMBG twice now and have been waiting for them to play "Nothing's
Gonna Change My Clothes" and/or "Sapphire Bullets...".  Well, maybe next time.

|> For the "spin the dial" section of the program (the "nader" as John F. put
|> it), they sang a splendid version of "I wanna know what love is" by
|> Foreigner.  Something about, "I stopped to ask a guy for directions, when
|> I was driving my car, and now it is his car".

We got real "lucky" for this portion of the show -- they happened upon a
"easy-listenin'" station that was playing "Morning Has Broken" (gag).
John F. didn't know too many of the words, but John L. played a beautiful
accoridian to it!

I had heard from my brother (who saw them in Milwaukee about a month ago)
that they were planning on appearing on Leno on Novemeber 19th.  I set my
VCR, but was disappointed when they weren't on.  Does anybody know if they're
going to be on Leno sometime soon?  (I assume it would be when they're in the
LA area..)

	".. a furry hat, elastic mask, a pair of shiny marble dice .."


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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:17:00 EST
From: Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Misc. T

Is the title of this album "Miscellaneous T Rex"? I thought it was just
Miscellaneous T. With the Rex after it it kinda defeats the joke.
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(Penn State University, or the Center for Academic Computing, so there!  )
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Subject: Re: Song Meanings
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:46:24 GMT

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>In article <41339@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ma155fan@b432-1.ucsd.edu (AxigallyRules!) writes:

>>I always thought that Particle Man was about how screwed up mankind
>>is.  Particle Man is a reference to the atomic bomb; Triangle Man is
>>God (the trinity); Universe Man is (obviously) the Universe; and
>>Person Man is mankind.  Or something like that.

>Not bad, but I'm not convinced.  The first verse, where they
>philosophize about the difference between water "getting" a particle
>and a particle getting wet doesn't seem to jibe with the atomic bomb
>analogy.  Physics majors, please correct me if I'm wrong. :-)

All nonsense about chiral anomalies aside, though I haven't figured
out Triangle Man yet (my friend Alan shares the Trinity theory, and sees
those bits as criticizing the idea of God as thundering bully), I see most
of it as being about how lost and insignificant we seem to be, stuck
between stuff happening on the very smallest scales (particles so small
that ordinary matter behaves very differently to them, and ordinary
concepts of size and position don't totally apply), and the immensity of
the Universe as a whole (while it seems to be set up in a manner generally
congenial to our existence, the gulfs of space and time involved turn *us*
into dots and specks).  In between we eke out an existence in our paltry
few orders of magnitude.  All this with accordion and a beat you can dance
to, or at least clap your hands.
-- 
Matt McIrvin
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From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Mammal
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:58:23 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1e8ujsINNaic@agate.berkeley.edu> nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu (Nicholas C. Weaver (The Weeniehead)) writes:
>	Marsupials are an order of mamillia.  They ARE mammals.  So are
>monoremes (sp), like the Echidna and platypus.

It's monotreme. Egg laying mammals. And as far as I know the only known
species of monotremeare the echidna and the platypus.Q%
r.
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Re: The original "Able was I" palindrome
Keywords: Napoleon's Lament
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:08:57 GMT

jsm1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jason S. MacDonald) writes:

>peb2g@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Penny E. Breyer) writes:
>>The original palidrome that J&J adapted for I Palindrome I
>>was:
>>	Napoleon's Lament:
>>		Able was I ere I saw Elba.

>>At least, that's where I think they got it from!

>What?!?!  "Adapted"?!  That phrase is seven words long!  The verse in
>I Palindrome I as incredibly longer than that.  I can see a *resemblance*,
>with the "able was I", but the I P. I verse is just too long to be
>attributed to this one.

Well, the "Able was I" palindrome is so famous that I suspect the
"Son I am able" part at least bears some traces of it, somewhat in the
manner of lines like "The yellow Roosevelt Avenue leaf overturned"
or "Laugh hard, it's a long way to the bank."  Adapted, no-- but it's
likely another product of John & John's lovely verbal blender.
-- 
Matt McIrvin
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From: Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid)
Subject: Re: Song Meanings
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:18:06 GMT

>PARTICLE MAN -- I picture a small child playing with superhero 
>	dolls, singing the song.  Holds up Triangle Man and Particle
>	Man, makes them fight, Triangle wins, yay.  Kid thinks the
>	Person man is stupid and boring.  Universe man is too powerful
>	to be any fun to play with.
>
>-- Clare
>
I interpreted particle like this:
	Particle Man- science
	Triangle Man- religon
	Person Man- human kind
	Universe Man- The universe

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From: Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid)
Subject: Re: A Lyrical Question
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:24:48 GMT

In article <Bxz3Go.E4A@acsu.buffalo.edu> psr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Lord Strider) writes:
>I thought he was saying "Man o nam."
>
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>"Son, I am able," she said, "though you scare me."  "Watch," said I, "beloved."

My friend have been fighting non-stop for the last three months on whether
or not it was "man o nam" or "man a nam". I am on the "man o nam" side, but
there is no convincing him.:)


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From: andrew@rle-vlsi.mit.edu (Andrew Eli Grumet)
Subject: Re: What was the requested song at other concerts?
Organization: Research Laboratory of Electronics, Massachusetts Institute of
	Technology
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:46:35 GMT

In article <BxLw8G.3oM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> nuspljj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.) writes:

>
>   When I saw TMBG in Chicago in late June 92 at the Riv, the song requested
>   by the audience was 'YMCA' but they played 'Yellow Submarine.'  I was
>   wondering, what the 'requested' song was at some of the other shows?


I saw the Johns at Avalon in Boston this summer.  The "Stump the Band"
tune was "We Got the Beat" by the go-go's.  Some people standing near
me were shouting "I'm Too Sexy", which I thought would have been 
really hilarious, but the band didn't hear them.  Oh well, maybe next
time...

--
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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Song Meanings
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:20:35 GMT

In article <41339@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ma155fan@b432-1.ucsd.edu (AxigallyRules!) writes:

>I always thought that Particle Man was about how screwed up mankind
>is.  Particle Man is a reference to the atomic bomb; Triangle Man is
>God (the trinity); Universe Man is (obviously) the Universe; and
>Person Man is mankind.  Or something like that.

Not bad, but I'm not convinced.  The first verse, where they
philosophize about the difference between water "getting" a particle
and a particle getting wet doesn't seem to jibe with the atomic bomb
analogy.  Physics majors, please correct me if I'm wrong. :-)

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From: hugh@slee06.srl.ford.com (Hugh Fader)
Subject: Kids love TMBG (was Re: Mammal)
Reply-To: hugh@slee01.srl.ford.com
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:18:42 GMT

garym@cs.umb.edu (Gary MacDougall) writes:
[ stuff deleted ]
: I was just pondering the other night about the song "Mammal" and
: how wonderfully educational this song is. I couldn't help but think 
: that it would be really cool if "John and John" could do a sorta 
: educational album, maybe even a childrens album.

My kids (ages 9, 7, and 4) love They Might Be Giants. They especially
like:

Turn Around
Pencil Rain
Particle Man
Istanbul Not Constantinople
Fingertips

Also, they tell me that Particle Man and Istanbul Not Constantinople
have been played on Tiny Toons.

Do others have kids that are fans?
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From: lightnin@buckaroo.WPI.EDU (Reality's Comic Relief)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Re: What was the requested song at other concerts?
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:24:44
Organization: DeityCo: Major and Minor Deities Placement Agency
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In-reply-to: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu's message of 20 Nov 92 01:53:04 GMT

>>>>> On 20 Nov 92 01:53:04 GMT, mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin) said:

M> kbeal@amber (Ken Beal) writes:

>Aaron Humphrey (aaron@space.ualberta.ca) wrote:
>: ObTMBG: I think that "We Want A Rock" is about headbangers and their music, and
>: "Pencil Rain" is about vicious bureaucracy.  Anybody else?

>	Pencil Rain seems to be about Vietnam (or some other war) in which
>the bullets were falling like rain.  (They're made of ... lead! :-)  )

M> Hmm... then why were they "looking out for No. 2"?  This would seem to
M> indicate No. 2 pencils.  I dunno.  I think it's just about an army getting
M> creamed by falling pencils.  (Does anybody know if the Morse code in the
M> background spells anything in particular?) 

Well, I thought that pencil rain was about war in general, not just 
Vietnam.  But anyway, No. 2, could be a reference to bowel movements.  
Remember when you were a kid, and you had to go to the bathroom, you
always specified what you had to do by saying 'Number One' or 'Number
Two'.  

Then again, it could be a prisoner reference.

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From: christian@Turing.ORG (Christian Claiborn)
Subject: Re: Misc. T
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:43:55 GMT

In article <92320.235408BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu> BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu (Brian Panulla, MooCow) writes:
>My impression was that for most of TMBG's existance (pre-FLood) their albums
>were in the "Misc T" section of the record store shelves. Only recently did
>stores start giving them their own section. That's why I was confused when
>someone tacked a "Rex" onto the end of it. Unfortunately, I don't own the
>album.
>

I have it.
Rexless.
Thanks.

>Can someone confirm whether or not the "Rex" is on the album?
Yes.  See above.


						Christian
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