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From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: Re: Jan(n?) Jensen (was: Heinrik (?) Andersen)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:52:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.174723.19958@spider.co.uk> scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
>In article <MARTIN.92Sep29164325@kilo.inferenzsysteme.informatik.th-darmstadt.de> martin@inferenzsysteme.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Martin Protzen) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep29.142757.15915@spider.co.uk> scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
>>
>>>   >He played at least the last 3 games for Cologne, which were
>>>   >vs Glasgow  2:0 (He scored and proved that he can organize the defence even
>>>       ^^^^^^^
>>
>>>   Was that a Rangers, Celtic, Clyde, Queens Park and Partick Thistle select?
>>
>>>   There is no such team called Glasgow Rangers or Glasgow Celtic.
>>
>>So Cologne has been playing against ghost - at least that's a reasonable explanation
>>why they have won :-)
>>
>>Seriously - what names would you suggest for the Glasgow teams ? Celtic or
>>Rangers alone is too ambiguous.
>
>They are the original use of the names `Rangers' and `Celtic' and as such
>those are the names of the clubs. How can they be ambiguous when these names
>are known throughout the world.
>
>Rangers are currently officially known as:
>
>The Rangers Football Club Plc
>
>As far as I know, Celtic are known as:
>
>The Celtic Football and Athletic Club
>
>-- 
> Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk  
> Spider Systems Limited     abuse  031-554-9424
> Edinburry                  "We're no just ony works fitba' team, we are
> Scotland                    Dukla Pumpherston Sawmills an' Tannery"

 I love soccer myself, but why is EVERYONE almost referring soccer as football
for?  Please explain to me before I go insane and lose control :-)....


Thanks,
Scott
From: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de (Christian Schetter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: 1.FC Cologne - Celtic Glasgow
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:55:10 GMT
Organization: Institute of Genetics/Dept. Virology, Cologne, Germany
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The result of last nights UEFA cup match between Celtic Glasgow and
1.FC Cologne was on the net. Although I  am sure there will be a
report of an eye witness soon, I have to make a few remarks, whioch
were obvious on TV.
First of all the 3-0 is very flattering for Cologne and easily Glasgow
could have scored one or two times more. Our defnese was a mess and
even when I had praised Jan Jensen's qualities as a libero and
organizer of the Cologne defense in a recent post, I had to state
after this match that he was never able to organize anything. Together
with his defense teammates Greiner, Higl and Baumann he produced only
fear and chaos (in german that sounds good :-)). So now it is obvious
for me why Jensen never will play in the danish national squad. He
obviously lacks some qualities which are necessary in international
games.
Although Celtic Glasgow deserved to win I have to add, that yesterday
Cologne was not the scale for european UEFA cup top teams and Glasgow
will face tougher competitions. I wish them all the best.

Chris

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Institute of Genetics                     Weyertal 121
University of Cologne                     D-5000 Koeln 41
Dept. of Virology                         Germany
Tel.: 0221/470-3422                       Fax.: 0221/470-5163
e-mail: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de
From: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de (Christian Schetter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: LEEDS -  STUTTGART  News
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:04:54 GMT
Organization: Institute of Genetics/Dept. Virology, Cologne, Germany
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In-reply-to: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de's message of 6 Oct 92 14:10:47

In article <CHRIS.92Oct6141047@scan.scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de> chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de (Christian Schetter) writes:


   LEEDS will play STUTTGART on friday (9. oct) in Barcelona! This
   decision was made by the UEFA and will be valid, if no further protest
   of either team will arrive till 24:00 today. So Leeds has to decide if
   they actually will officially announce their protest to UEFA, that
   they only want to play in Leeds, which would of course be fair. BTW,
   how will Leeds play, when their four foreigners are involved in
   qualifying games for the WC?

   Latest news: Kick-Off Time is 20:15 MEZ and Leeds officials had
                accepted the decision.

   P.S.: UFEA first had the idea to not allow any spectators, but by
         choosing Spain there will hardly be a safety problem :-).
   
Greetings

   Chris


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   Christian Schetter

   Institute of Genetics                     Weyertal 121
   University of Cologne                     D-5000 Koeln 41
   Dept. of Virology                         Germany
   Tel.: 0221/470-3422                       Fax.: 0221/470-5163
   e-mail: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de


















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Christian Schetter

Institute of Genetics                     Weyertal 121
University of Cologne                     D-5000 Koeln 41
Dept. of Virology                         Germany
Tel.: 0221/470-3422                       Fax.: 0221/470-5163
e-mail: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de
From: Juergen.Schaepker@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Juergen Schaepker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: German 2.Bundesliga Round 17
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:08:51 GMT
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany

Hi there !

The results of the 2nd Bundesliga from round 17:

Chemnitzer FC   - Darmstadt 98      0:1
Jena            - St.Pauli          1:0
Osnabrueck      - Unterhaching      1:1
Oldenburg       - Koeln             0:1
Stuttg.Kickers  - Wuppertaler SV    4:1
SC Freiburg     - Leipzig           1:0
Duesseldorf     - Rostock           1:1
Wolfsburg       - Braunschweig      4:1
Mainz 05        - SV Meppen         3:0
Mannheim        - Homburg           2:0
Remscheid       - Hertha BSC        2:1
Hannover 96     - Duisburg          Wednesday Oct, 7

Table
-----
		    Goals    Points

1.  SC Freiburg     38:15    27- 7
2.  MSV Duisburg    25:13    23- 9
3.  Fortuna Koeln   19: 6    23-11
----------------------------------
4.  Hansa Rostock   24:12    22-12
5.  VfB Leipzig     23:17    21-13
6.  Waldh. Mannheim 23:21    21-13
7.  Mainz 05        25:19    20-14
8.  SV Meppen       12:14    19-15
9.  VfL Osnabrueck  24:20    18-16
10. Carl Z. Jena    24:21    18-16
11. FC Homburg      26:24    18-16
12. Chemnitzer FC   16:18    16-18
13. VfB Oldenburg   25:30    16-18
14. Hannover 96     25:27    15-17
15. Wuppertaler SV  20:17    15-19
16. FC St.Pauli     20:22    15-19
17. VfL Wolfsburg   26:28    16-18
----------------------------------
18. FC Remscheid    17:29    14-20
19. Hertha BSC      21:26    13-21
20. Stuttg. Kickers 17:23    13-21
21. Braunschweig    22:33    12-22
22. Unterhaching    20:31    11-23
23. Darmstadt 98    17:31    11-23
24. Duesseldorf     14:26    10-24


To be played Oct.16-18
Wuppertaler SV - SC Freiburg
VfB Leipzig    - Wolfsburg
Homburg        - Mainz
Rostock        - Osnabrueck
Unterhaching   - Oldenburg
Fort. Koeln    - Stuttg. Kickers
Braunschweig   - Chemnitz
Darmstadt      - Remscheid
Hertha BSC     - Jena
SV Meppen      - Duisburg
Duesseldorf    - Hannover
St.Pauli       - Waldh. Mannheim

Scorers:
Hubner (Homburg)    12
Drulak (Oldenburg)  11
Hobsch (Leipzig)    10
Reich (Wolfsburg)   10
Preetz (Duisburg)    9
Meinke (Osnabrueck)  8
Jurgeleit (Homburg)  7

News:  There will be a third, decisive match between Leeds Utd. and
       VfB Stuttgart following the jugdement of the UEFA-court, which
       set the result of the game Leeds-Stuttgart to 3-0, which puts
       both teams to 3:3 on aggregate. The match will be played on
       neutral ground.

Bye

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From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: DENMARK v IRELAND - TICKETS WANTED
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:36:09 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "John" == jbrogan  (jbrogan@vax1.tcd.ie)

John> As the Denmark v. Republic of Ireland match in Copenhagen on October 14th
John> next is a sell-out and the F.A.I. have only received an allocation of 
John> 4,200 tickets which have been taken up, could any Danes out there tell
John> me if there is any possibility of buying tickets in Copenhagen prior to 
John> the match?

I don't think so. The "K/obenhavns Idraetspark" has only 40.000 seats
and with 36k left for the Danes, I believe they are long since sold
out. There might be the odd pirate in the streets before the game, but
don't rely on it.

John> If so, what prices?

Tickets has been horribly expensive since "Parken" was rebuild. 300
Dkr (30 English pounds) for the cheapest, 450 Dkr for a really good
seat. This has caused a number of the real fans to stay away, being
replaced by the yuppie crowd, resulting in less support for the team
and less intense atmosphere -- at least this was the case for the
Denmark - Germany friendly.

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: ocroci@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: 18155 is about borghi
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:30:28 GMT

18155 is about borghi
From: shulman@vxdesy.desy.de (Julian Shulman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Euro Cups on US Satellites?
Keywords: BST, CET
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:55:22 GMT
Reply-To: shulman@vxdesy.desy.de (Julian Shulman)
Organization: University College London/ Zeus Expt, DESY, Hamburg

In article <9209291817.AA11971@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>,
CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen) writes:

|>
|>Also, when does Western Europe go from "Summer Time" to "normal" time? Is
|>it this past weekend, or next weekend?
|>
|>Many thanks, Chris
|>
It depends on which part of Western Europe you're talking about. 
For those countries on CET at least, the clocks went back last Sunday.
For Britain on BST they don't go back for a few more weeks. So for
the time being BST=CET. This is a pain to me as I'm flying back to
London on Friday and don't gain the hour I normally do.

Julian Shulman
From: ejua64@castle.ed.ac.uk (D Howat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: Preddies
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:30:55 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


Airdrie		 1-1 Partick Thistle
Celtic		 2-1 Hearts
Dundee United    2-0 Motherwell
Falkirk 	 0-0 Dundee
Hibernian 	 0-1 Aberdeen
St Johnstone	 1-4 Rangers

Stirling Albion  1-3 Dumbarton

East Fife 	 2-2 Queen of the South

douglas the half a bee
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: luib@fraser.sfu.ca (Ka Wang Kevin Lui)
Subject: Italin soccer on TV in CANADA?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:48:11 GMT

Can someone tell me if RAI broadcast Italian soccer in Canada?
If yes, do I need a satellite dish? (I live in Vancouver)

Also, I want to hear more update on Gazza and the England team.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
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Subject: re: Stuttgart vs Leeds
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:00:17 +0000







I write>>>>

>>   Leeds fielded 4 players from foreign countries. But with the new ruling
>>   in Europe allowing "assimilated" players, one of these players being
>>   Gary Speed does not count as a "foreigner". Therefore Leeds actually only
>>   fielded 3 "foreigners".

>>   It is also my belief that it does not matter that Stuttgart actually put
>>   put 4 foreigners onto the pitch. I think you'll find that it is against
>>   the rules to have more than 3 foreigners in the squad, never mind on the 
>>   pitch.

>>   This being the case Stuttgart were breaking the rules from the first minute

>>   never mind the 80th.

>>   Tom.

Christian Schetter writes>>

>What means 'assimilated' in that respect. BTW Stuttgart's Adrian Knup
>comes from Switzerland and they partly speak german .... :-).
>Maybe because it happened in the last minutes of the match without the
>intention to cheat and due to the fact that Stuttgart's manager Dieter
>Hoeness made the 'problem' public to UEFA on thursday morning, the
>decision will be a third match in a neutral country. Decision
>tomorrow.

>Chris

I cannot remember the exact details. "assimilated" players are basically
players of foreign origin who have been playing football in the country
(eg Gary Speed in England) for at least 5 years. I believe at least 2 or
3 of those years have to have been spent at youth level. These players are
quite common in England with a fair few Welshies and Irish who join English
clubs as youth trainees. Not so common to find Scots as they have their
own fully fledged league.


> BVB Borussia Dortmund - Celtic Glasgow
> Glasgow Rangers       - VFB Stuttgart/Leeds United *

yummy yummy, can't wait.

Tom.
From: ehchua@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Eu Hin Chua)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Baresi leaves the national team !
Date: 4 Oct 1992 02:58:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

	I agree with the idea that Baresi left the squad to allow a
younger player enough time to learn the ropes. After all, filling
Baresi's boots will not be a simple task, to say the least.
	What were his motivations, you might ask. Well, perhaps it was
his fervent desire to recover the World Cup they "should" have won in
their home territory back in '90. I wasn't in Italy, but I can imagine
the disappointment and anger there after the Azzurri lost to Argentina
in the semis. Perhaps it was in that frame of mind that he decided that
Italy's best chance in '94 was with a new sweeper?

	Anyhow, here's to Baresi, a fine player who could always be
counted on in the centre of defence. Which reminds me... exactly when
did he come into the national side? After Scirea and Cabrini retired?

	Eu Hin Chua
From: lamfpn@uts.uni-c.dk (Per Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Lithuania - Denmark (WC94 qualification)
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:03:16 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education

In <1992Sep25.144943.17871@rdg.dec.com> spain@galvia.enet.dec.com writes:

>--

>While I agree that Ireland and Spain will have problems in Lithuania
>and Latvia these are games that must be won. 

Of couse you must try to take the advantage of the game and try to win it.
But you sholdn't think that it is an easy game - you must concentrate
110% and first of all you must take care to stop the dangerous counterattacks
from Lithuania. And when you get a 100% chance you MUST score.

>I saw Lithuania in Belfast and they looked a good side.  They were short
>6 regulars on Wednesday and Denmark failed to take advantage.  This could
>prove costly in the end.  We will know a lot more by Christms.


True! Now it is crucial, that Denmark WINS in Copenhagen versus Ireland.


>       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

>  On being a football fan: "I am aware of the downside to this wonderful 
>  facility that men have: they become repressed, they fail in their 
>  relationships with women,their conversation is trivial and boorish, they 
>  find themselves unable to express their emotional needs, they cannot relate
>  to their children, and die lonely and miserable. But you know, what the hell?"
>								   Nick Hornby 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: michal@vsnmc1.cern.ch (Michal Szleper)
Subject: Re: Galatasaray-Katowice (UEFA Cup Result)
Summary: Arghhhhhhh
Keywords: Katowice
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, Geneva
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:40:40 GMT

Muzaffer Kayhan writes:
>Galatasaray (Turkey) advanced to the secound round in the UEFA Cup today by
>beating Katowice (Poland) 2-1 in Istanbul today. Hakan and Falco Gotz were
>scorers for Galatasaray. The first leg of this match-up ended with a score of
>0-0 last week in Katowice.Three Polish players were ejected in today's game.

So Katowice gave a probe of their usual standard.  They never miss it!
Geez, I've never seen a more hopeless team than Katowice in my life!
They can lose anything you can only think of!  I wonder what they would
do if set against NO adversary team.  Maybe score some own-goal...

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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Enough Sandy Bashing
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:06:06 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <1992Oct5.165530.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.150013.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>> In article <9210032329.AA07839@gatekeeper.hcc.com>, iam@rlmtc.ENET.hcc.com writes:
>> 
>>> Reports are rife here of an "incident" involving the president and well
>>> known hooligan element of the recently formed Brown University Rangers
>>> Supporters Club in a Boston Bar. Present was a former colleague of
>>> Sean Subterranean and fellow Celtic supporter. We feel that SMcK must come
>>> clean
>> 
>> *************************  TAXI FIR McKINNON  *********************************
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>
>Rumours that Sandy picked the wrong town to sing anti-Celtic songs are not
>true.  We wait with anticipation for Sandy's visit to the Scots' CLub in
>Kearney,NJ, where he will be the guest of that well known philanthropissed the
>Jersey Jagsfan.  Hank McCulloch should be there to pick up a few beers as well.
>The rest of us must wait for the return of a new Sandy to these shores in
>December fresh from his experiences among Celtic fans abroad, sporting his new
>colours of green and white............maybe we could send Scott over too ;-)
>
>************************** KEBAB FIR McKINNON *********************************
>
>Sean Subtequilan

Apparently the green colour was due to the barf he had at the end of the
night and the white can be accounted for the next day when he looked at his
wallet. However, his white fivers from home were still OK. This has surely
been blown out of all proportion as it's like a normal Friday night in
Scotland.

************************ ALKA SELTZER FUR MacKINNON **************************

Scott
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: England squad (was Re: Souness gets vote)
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:39:00 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <199210012309.AA08297@rata.vuw.ac.nz> mphillip@MATAI.VUW.AC.NZ writes:
|Finally a word about poor Mark Wright.....dumped from the England squad.
|God, Taylor loses faith in you and still keeps picking the likes of Carlton
|Palmer and replaces you with Richard Jobson (wasn't he a pop star and a
|mail model and presented some nightmare afternoon show like Pebble Mill at
|One or something)...it's been a tough week for Mark...how about an own goal
|on Saturday to cap it off.
|

I dunno............poor old Carlton - one of the few England players to
come out of the European Championships with any credit and still people
knock him! 

Mind you, if you'd seen him play for the Owls this season, you'd wonder
what he's doing in the first team let alone the England team! Frequently
there's been no comparison in class between him and Bart-Williams (aka Bartman 
the wonderboy), but Carlton has though recently been looking a bit more of 
his old self. I think most Owls fans have a chuckle when he's discussed in
depth by the media, trying to work out his strengths and weaknesses,
because you really have to see him week in and week out to get to know
his game. There are certainly a good few Owls players with more obvious
basic skill anyway! (a certain Mr. Waddle springs to mind for starters..).

Mark Wright?...never liked him anyway. Leapy Lee (Chapman) always had
the beating of him at the worst of times when Lee was at Wednesday. Nice
to see Wright at the centre of the "Liverpool Crisis". Seems like a big
winging cry baby to me. And yes an own goal this weekend would do very
nicely thank you (seeing as Liverpool are playing Wednesday)!

Some trivia on Richard Jobson: For some reason he sticks in my mind for
appearing on the back of National Student in the early 80's for giving
up being a student for professional football (signing for Watford). I
think his career went something like: transfered to Hull (then in the
old 2nd division), made captain, then transfered to Oldham a few years
later, where he's been for about 2 seasons maybe. Some big club were
offering a lot of money for him sometime last year so someone must rate
him. But having said that, Oldham have hardly the most secure defence in
the world. He does seem a strange choice to me too - not even
particularly young either (any Oldham fans out there to give us a real
opinion of him??).

Up the Owls

gordon


PS A thought to the Glasgow Rangers, er I mean Rangers, fans with all
your winging about what people call your team.........how would you like
it to be mixed up with your arch rivals in the National press and tv
(like when they say or print United instead of Wendnesday, which *still*
hanppens occasionally - I think Des Lynham or Steve Rider was guilty of
this recently doing the "tele-printer" bit on Grandstand)? And I bet you
still call Ajax "Ajax Amsterdam" as pointed out by one of our Dutch
friends.....
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: To Mazen Maamari
From: zxnoueih@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (...VALENCIA...)
Date: 26 Sep 92 11:07:15 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks


Mazen, I lost your e-mail!
Please get in touch so that I can give you info on Yasser.

Ziad.
From: MACKINON@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Sandy Mackinnon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Boston......
Date: 5 Oct 1992 10:48:11 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


This hasn't much to do with football but then again neither have postings
originating from San Diego......

Anyway it would appear my good name is being abused on this newsgroup
and I wish to make my feelings known.  What's wrong when a man can't go
out for a meal in a Chinese restaurant, have a few beers with an exiled
Celtic  supporter, go to a club, throw up, get chucked out  and not
remember much about it. Thousands do it in Scotland  every weekend
so what's the fuss ? This is directed to the "Jersey Jagsfan", if I was
with you then I wouldn't have been in such a state  because I  would
have had to buy *every* drink  :-)    This is directed to Dan (CBAR40),
the spelling is Mackinnon, please remember the 'a' You were right  about
the taxi though......

Sandy Mackinnon
Usually at Strathclyde
In  Exile at Broon Yooni
and in the huff........