HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: click!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:12:53 GMT



>> kitten has a great click! story for the group (a click! is when
>> something happens that triggers a great revelation--often about
>> sexism. i think the term was coined by gloria steinem).
>> 
>> the scene:  driving home from football practice (me, t.c. and lee--15
>> year old stepson)
>> lee:  a friend of mine took a military aptitude test today
>> t.c.:  how did he do?
>> lee:  IT WAS A SHE....YOU SEXIST SLIME!
>> 
>> (unfortunately the discussion of women in the military degenerated
>> into a discussion of a special forces group that only gets sent out
>> once a month...the PMS squad)
>> 
>> little things like this give me hope for the younger generation...

>What gives you hope, that someone would refer to another on as sexist 
>slime merely for making a fairly innocent inference?  Indeed, perhaps these
>inferences need to go away, but the sexist slime remark is
>VERY indicative of the combative and militant self-righteousness
>that is common with almost all issues right now be they liberal
>or conservative.  

>Far from giving me the impression that there is hope for the
>younger generation, it makes me even more convinced that this
>nation will descend into internecine savagery, because the
>spirit of compromise and reasoned appeal cannot exist in a
>nation of zealots.


"well," says kitten...."i would NEVER argue with a cynic }:), but i
think you are wrong...did you note that the discussion in question
degenerated into sexist humor....

i am glad lee is aware and unafraid to point out a
chauvanism...doesn't have to be sexist....f'er instance, he will also,
on occasion note that christmas isn't the only religious holiday
celebrated in december...and wish folx a happy hannuka (sp?) and a
joyous solstice...in deference to all beliefs...he doesn't
automatically assume all people of color are poor and live in slums
and he would NEVER be condescending to a differently abled person...

which is NOT to say he is a saint...he is into "babes"...he helps his
friend torment his friend's mother (who is deaf)....etc, etc...

[and while he is definitely straight, he has been exposed to gay
people--one of his favorite babysitters when he was small...and still
a friend...is mark--an old family friend who is gay...lee accepts
everyone for what/who they are]

he is NOT a zealot...and neither are we...but he has learned
sensitivity...not a terribly common trait in 15 year old boys...or in
grown men sometimes...."

kitten, who usually doesn't do the soapbox thing, looks down and says
"help" ....

 
--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: Can anyone hear me?
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 19:12:35 GMT

s903040@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Christopher Francis Anderson) writes:

><<Thunderchild looks around in bewilderment>>

>Can anyone hear me?

>None of my posts seem to be getting through to the group!

><<Panic ensues on his part>>

>If anyone can hear me, let me know, please - I feel a bit strange talking
>and not knowing if I'm getting through.

>Thanx peoples.

Reading you loud and clear in DC

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
Solve a man's problem and he has 1 less.        No incumbents in 92.
Teach a man to think, and all his problems are less.
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Colorful Phrases
From: olson@husc9.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there)
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:05:54
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.
In-reply-to: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU's message of Fri, 2 Oct 92 20:24:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.202440.1224@nntp.uoregon.edu> JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason)) writes:

><Jason walks up to the chalkboard and adds a few more descriptive phrases
>to Feather's growing list.>

>And we're off! Like a herd of turtles. (For a slow start to a trip)

<Castellan grins and adds one right under it>

We're off like a prom dress!

<and a couple more>

Looks like he's been dragged backwards through a hedge while the hedge was 
being dragged backwards through a combine harvester.  (Douglas Adams)

Smells like ten pounds of shit in a five-pound bag.

--
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu 
"Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free, silhouetted
by the sea, circled by the circus sands, with all memory and fate driven deep 
beneath the waves; let me forget about today until tomorrow"  -Bob Dylan.

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: A test of the national broadcasting system.
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:09:39 GMT

>John Carney stands from his table and speaks...
>"Hi there..just a quick question.  Well, really this post was to see
>if I had really managed to change my "Sender:" field...been meaning
>to fix that.  But also, I was curious..I get this message everytime
>I post:
>	You will be posting to the entire civilized world.  It will
>	cost hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars to send to every
>	computer system on the plant.  Are you sure you want to do this?
>Does anyone get else get this, and is it true?  Or is it just a scare
>tactic to keep people from fooling around?  I hope not," he smirks,"cause
>it didn't work..."
>

 "Its called 'rn' and my copy of rrn does the same thing. Its builtin to the
source code, so when you compile it, anyone trying to post get that
obnoxious output on their screen. Most places, except UUCP sites, don't
have that problem anymore. here at USM, my taxes pay for this..." DJ.

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
 jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
  "Is it the weekend yet ?" me :-)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: tsk tsk : -)  re: Bah ! Humbug !
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:53:27 GMT


  "About two years ago, some of the cable tv channels I get started
 running adverts for Christmas Carol music in August. They still do it.
 About two weeks ago, magazine subscriptions as Christmas gifts started
adverting on MTV and A&E."

  "The funniest thing I ever saw on 'early placement of holiday
decorations' was in Norfolk, Virginia. There was a little family run
cafe { not quite a restaurant... } in a neighborhood. The owners never
could figure out the American holidays, so they put up decorations for
the 4th of July, Thanksgiving, Christmas, News Years, and Easter; and
left them up ! Hung from the ceiling were Christmas and 4th of July
garlands and streamers. A real small Christmas tree, with flashing bulbs,
was on the counter. Carboard turkeys were hung on three walls. A Happy
New Year banner was hung over one exit. Yup, it usually got people looking
around the room, particularly early in the morning... " Dreamy Jim.

  There may have been other things like carboard snowmen, but I was
so startled I don't remember all of what I saw that day...

* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "DJ." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Comp. Sci.
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "I'm tired out from a prolonged squawk !!" me simulating MPFC.
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Yet Another Periodic Return...
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:12:31 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


speaker to minerals says:

[    ]
>moderately strong hypoglycemic attack can be like.  I'm sorry.

>A short chronology of the evening in question:  I'd had a few drinks.  Not
>nearly enough to explain the post in question, however.  But just enough to
>cloud my judgement slightly.  Enough that I forgot to pick up a loaf of bread
>on my way home.  Enough that when, upon starting to prepare my evening snack, I
>realized that I'd forgotten the bread, and that I didn't have any other starchy
>food at home, I decided that, rather than bicycling a mile or so (round trip)
>to get a loaf of bread, I'd just skip the snack.  Just enough that, when a
>hypoglycemic attack began, I dismissed it as just being a little tipsy.

>The rest is, unfortunately, history.  My thanks to the Unbeliever for
>mentioning that he was shaking.  That's what alerted me to the fact that *I*
>was also shaking, and prompted me to check my blood sugar level.  My last
>coherent memory of that evening is of eating several glucose tablets.

>Again, my apologies to everyone.



kitten hugs speaker...."i KNEW it....and i keep telling you to take
better care of yourself..."  she feeds speaker a healthy type snack...
--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Basic Trivia (was Re: BAH! HUMBUG!)
Date: 3 Oct 1992 18:54:41 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1aj79hINNg8b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis) writes:
>Anyone remember RADIX-50?

Enough to know that the 50 in the name of the character set was an octal
number.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Holding on to the light
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:24:27 GMT

susan:

>>>
>>>I am sorry if the following post is not completely coherent.  I am 
>>>trying to put many conflicting feelings into words.
>>>
>>>   [deleted]
>>>
>>>I try to hang on to the light, but I feel the darkness closing in and
>>>I am just so tired.

aahz has a WONDERFUL idea...

>>Group hug!  Group hug!
>>-- 

>The Didi-Sprite looks up and calls out:  "Count me in!"


kitten quits drooling at grant and joins the group hug!
--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: dgil@IPSAINT.IPSA.REUTER.COM (Gillett, David)
Subject: Re: SF Bay Area Realspace and Halloween Party
Reply-To: dgil@IPSAINT.IPSA.REUTER.COM (Gillett, David)
Organization: Reuters APL Software Division
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:34:09 GMT

     Having successfully but somewhat harrowingly negotiated the Bascom/Leigh
exit from and entrance to I-280, I'd be interested in considering an
alternative.
     I notice that the instructions for using I-880 are different.  Can a local
advise me on the practicality of taking 880 north from 280 to Stevens Creek/
W. San Carlos?  It sounds a bit like *taking* I-880 might be less stressful
than trying to avoid it and get across traffic lanes to/from the Bascom/Leigh
ramps....
     (Local question, so we might want to take this to e-mail....)

                                      Mentor the (Drivin') Sage

-----------Message forwarded from IPSA Mailbox-------------
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: And in this corner...uh, where's the corner?
Date: 22 Sep 92 06:48:35 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture

In article <1992Sep21.171144.16726@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, aaron@helios
(Aaron Humphrey) writes:
> 
> Richard L. Mcmahon (rlm7337@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote:
> : Once again the rear wall of Callahan's disappears to permit the entrance
> : of the man known as John Carney...
> : Here ya' go, folks!
> : 
> : Birth Date: September 27, 1972
> 
> "Is it just me, or have other people noticed this tendency of people to appear,
> or lurkers to reappear, a few days before their birthday?  I really don't think
> this is coincidence.  We could probably plot a graph..."
> 
> --
> ---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)


<Jason pokes his head back in from the Kitchen.>

     Actually, I didn't show up here til a week or so -after- my birthday
(8/9). But we were moving then, and I still haven't really stood still long
enough since then to celebrate mine. So where does that plot on your chart,
Hmmmm?

<Jason>
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: More old coots tests
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:08:12 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

Jilara looks nostalgic.  "Ah yes, Bob Clampett.  That man had
a wicked sense of humor that I only really began to appreciate
when I watched some of his stuff as an adult.  Rather the way
you can't full appreciate Rocky and Bullwinkle when you're a
kid, either.  (Who remember's Jay Ward's first show, "Crusader
Rabbit?")  But I wonder if it's true that Bob got fired from
Warner Bros. for perpetrating a cartoon called "Coal Black and
the Seven Dwoaves" as a friend once told me..."
--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out."  --Barry
Shein, on the net
From: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Basic Trivia (was Re: BAH! HUMBUG!)
Date: 3 Oct 1992 04:24:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus) says:
>
>>Why doesn't anybody bother to use base-4 (Quadral?)?
>
>Anymore?  Or ever?  Have to admit I'm not an old coot, so I don't really
>know of a time when folks used four-based reps.

What would base 4 get you over binary?

>Actually, a lot of people don't bother with octal anymore, either,
>probably for the same reason, it's just inconvenient to work with such a
>small collection of bits.

Of course, many older architectures had units of storage with numbers
of bits evenly divisible by three (six-bit bytes, 36-bit words, etc.),
on which octal makes infinite sense.  And even on those machines that
didn't, it's still useful sometimes.  For example, the PDP-11 instruction
set uses groups of three bits in lots of places.  So do UNIX file systems....

>Thing is with
>hexidecimal, the numbers still outnumber (ack) the letters, so it's fairly
>easy to associate quickly.  Possibly one of the reasons folks don't go to
>base 32. (tridecabinary?? laughter!!)

Anyone remember RADIX-50?

-- PTD --

(Besides, base-32 would take 5 bits, which is inconvenient unless you
have 5 or 10-bit bytes....)
-- 
Palmer T. Davis      ___
<ptd2@po.cwru.edu>   \X/   cthread.  cthread_fork().  Fork, thread, fork!
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Reminicing about alt.callahans past
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:45:34 GMT

feather says:

>"Someone here talked about what they called 'callahan's coots', and the 
>memories THEY would have of the Place.  Well, I have only been lurking
>here since early this past spring, so I don't have much of a history here
>to draw from.  

>Please, veteran Callahaners, could you share with all of us some of the
>greatest moments of this Place?  What stands out in your memory the most?
>How did it get started, and what was the Place like then?  Anything you
>could add on your own would be wonderful.  Maybe you could repost some
>of the most classic moments for us newbies to enjoy."

"well, i have only been here for a year" says kitten..."but i
remember...the 2nd wave of iranian terrorists...and the return of
dirque shadowsword...DM introducing us to didi... the intro of the hot tub...
didi's birthday party (constructed by EVERYONE) which lead to nick
chopper's birthday party (ditto--although didi did MUCH of the work for 
that one from a hospital bed in geneva, switzerland)....there is the
callahans coffeehouse tape...

and, the RL(tm) contacts i have made to go along with the friends and
love i find in callahans...i have talked to didi and nick and yue-shun
and SEA and others on the telephone...i have met MANY callahanians in
RL(tm) at kateri's infamous parties....and THE gave me a birthday
party in RL...i have tasted john palmer's chili (eaten it for
breakfast, in fact.  and made friends with nick chopper's little
girl...and been RL hugged by archteryx...met up with the lucky bitch
and eion and meta and others at world con..."

kitten runs out of steam ....i know i have forgotten alot....but it is
early (not 7am yet....and i have to go to a FOOTBALL game in a couple
of hours)


--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: oooops ! and Beta-Testing.
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:05:44 GMT



     I thought I had sent all of my replies to here. It seems that I
sent them to the posters I was replying to instead. If it wouldn't be too
much trouble, could those of you who got these posts from me, send them
to alt.callahans or to me, whichever is more convenient to you !
    Thanks and my apologies...
  
 my email address is jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu

  Please only repostmy messages if you have the spare time. Jim.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: More on Arty
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:36:37 GMT

Danger Mouse has been absolutely silent since Smoke's first appearance,
as some of the patrons may have noticed.

Finally, after hearing Kateri's poem, his eyes unglaze, with the help of
a tear or two. He gets up silently, exchanging a dollar coin at the bar
for a mug of chamomile tea. There are many things he wants to say. He
looks sadly at the people discussing the justifiability of suicide and
hopes without words that nobody will get heated about this.

He walks outside to the bonfire slowly, speaking to any who will listen.

"Although we never met, and exchanged only a few bits of mail, Arty is
the closest person to me ever to have died, by any means. The feelings
that have run through me over the past few days are new and strange. And
I'm sure I don't like it. But I can't blame him for that. Now matter how
one's life ends, all I feel I can do is to remember, not to judge.

"Take care, Arty."

DM drinks from his mug. He has nothing material to offer, but is sure
that friendships stand for as long as anyone remembers them.

- Danger Mouse.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Re: Happy B-Day
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:57:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.152948.27300@nntp.uoregon.edu> JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason)) writes:
><Jason and Pegasus walk into the place and join Thyra, who, as usual, is
>already there. They huddle for a moment, then walk up to Liralen Li, Phee
>and Blammor, carrying a small tray with a domed cover. Jason speaks>

David looks a touch confused...

He touches Susan on the shoulder for a second, and then realizes that the
Board still had the name of what is now a section of who he is.  He
smiles a slightly wry, but entirely human smile, and steps into the place
that Blammor might have taken.

>Ahem, Uh, we've only tangentally met so far, but I understand this is a
>special day for you three. This is for all three of you, but I want to
>present it to Phee.

The little Asian girl steps up, eyes wide.  She looks at the domed tray
with great interest.

><Pegasus removes the cover and Thyra lights six candles on a small
>cupcake.>

Phee forgets to look at the cupcake when she sees the beautiful winged
creature take the cover away.

>Happy Birthday! <say Jason, Pegasus and Thyra in unison. Jason says> 
>
>Go ahead Phee, blow out the candles.

Phee blinks in surprise at Jason, but then grins, and takes a HUGE!!
breath and the blows with all her might!  All the candles go out, but then
the second, third, fourth and sixth candles starts throwing sparks and then
they relight themselves.  She stares at them in wonder.

Liralen starts to laugh.

Phee just looks puzzled.

>Jason says>
>
>I did this once for Pegasus' birthday. We ordered a Pizza, and I brought it
>in with six lit candles on it. Everyone was looking for a child. Yet when
>some of the candles refused to go out, Pegasus chuckled and realized how
>appropriate it was. Can you guess why?
>
>Hint: We're both programmers.

At the hint, David starts chuckling as well. 

Phee, completely baffled, still looks up in question at David.  "Listen..."
David says, "I think Jason will explain it..."

>Write down the candles as zeroes for extinguished flames, ones for lit
>candles. 011101 should be Lirelen Li's age, in Binary! :-)

"Ohhhh..." says Phee and grins widely.

><Hugs>

And Liralen happily gives Jason a hug as David questions Thyra with a
raised eyebrow.  At her nod, he gently hugs her.  Phee looks up in complete
and utter awe at Pegasus and when the noble creature bends its head for the
child, Phee carefully hugs the silken neck.

Thanks, muchly, all of you...

Liralen, Phee, and David
From: kf8nh@kf8nh.UUCP ("Brandon S. Allbery")
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Christmas is busting out all over!
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:57:48 GMT
Reply-To: "Brandon S. Allbery" <allbery@ncoast.org>

On 29 Sep 92 07:37:59 GMT, "Jeffrey Hitchin" <jhitch@crash.cts.com> wrote:
> 	"I don't know, it just seems too sudden to think about Christmas
> now.  Well, since I'm hand-making my cards this year, I'd better get
> busy.  If anyone wants to express a little creativity - here a Kromekote
> greeting card and stamp pads.  I have all the stamps you'll need, but
> you'll have to provide the ideas!"

Considering that we've got a frost warning for tonight here in NEOH, it
almost seems appropriate.  (Sigh.)

++Brandon (doing the semi-demi-quasi-pseudo-lurk(tm) until he gets news
running at home)
From: spok+@cs.cmu.edu (John Ockerbloom)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: all about callahans
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:59:30 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

dirbze replays the 'At the Cinema' Iraqi-terrorist movie-musical review:

>well... there you have it.  a blast from the past.... and I really do wish I
>remembered who was responsible for this... 

John grins.  "That was mine.  My MUD persona makes an appearance partway
 through-- I've been on a few different MUDs as 'Yossarian' over the
 years.  It seemed to fit, since 'Dirque' and 'Hurin' are both MUD names too."

"I'm glad you liked it.  One of the things I really liked about
 doing the post was getting fan mail afterwards from *both* some
 Callahanian regulars *and* from one of the 'Iraqi terrorist' posters.
 There may be something you can draw from that along the lines
 of the 'inclusiveness' thread which occasionally wends through
 Callahans, but I won't bother trying any deep analysis.  It was
 mainly just fun to do."

John Ockerbloom
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