From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: Female "Wiring"
Organization: LLNL
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:09:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.011417.18251@netcom.com> sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) writes:
>In article <137606@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> lisa@zeppelin.llnl.gov (Lisa Corsetti) writes:
::
::This is the most *utterly* *ridiculous* thing I've seen posted here
::today!  Although the post about withholding sex because the male desires
::it is a close second.
:
:What's so ridiculous about that? It's called "spite," a consequence of
:"envy", one of the so-called 'seven deadly sins.' And it's extremely common.
:
:If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe Simone de Beauvoir (from
:"The Second Sex", Vintage edition, p. 521):
:
:     Where it is impossible for her to contest the mental superiority
:     of her husband, she will try to take her revenge on the sexual
:     level, by refusing to permit her husband's embraces until she
:     gets what she wants, or by insulting him with a show of frigidity,
:     or by reducing him to the position of a suppliant for her favors,
:     through capricious and coquettish behavior; through flirting,
:     making him jealous, deceiving him in one way or another, she
:     tries to humiliate him as a virile man.... There are women,
:     sometimes likened to the praying mantis, who wish to  triumph
:     both by night and by day: they are cold in lovemaking, scornful
:     in conversation, tyrannical in conduct.
:
:Today that sort of behavior is held up as the ideal!  :)

	By whom???

	Robert Sheaffer, you sound like you are projecting some
serious personal hangup here. Feminism is _not_ about being a bad
loser, as you seem to think that feminism is. Are _you_ sure you're
not a bad loser at anything.

	Why don't you read some of Susie Bright's works; she's a lot
more fun than Andrea Dworkin :-), and she's not a bad loser :-):-)

	I'm sure you can find her works at Cody's Books or some other
big bookstore (I don't know much about San Jose bookstores because I
don't go there very often).

	You have complained that it takes you _so_ long to get to San
Francisco or Berkeley. I will inform you of ways to make getting there
a _lot_ easier, though you will have to ride some Politically Correct
Collective Transport. But some forms of PCCT are comfortable enough
for you to get a _lot_ of reading done along the way, so you might
want to open your mind to that option a bit.

	To San Francisco:

	You go to downtown San Jose and drive westward on San Fernando
or San Carlos St. until you come to some railroad tracks and an old
railroad-station building. I'm sure there's plenty of nearby parking,
at least on weekends. Though the building is called the Southern
Pacific Depot, from its original owner, the train you will want to
catch is a commuter train called CalTrain. Buy a ticket at the station
(only $3 or $4 or so to SF). Midday during weekdays, the train leaves
once an hour; during nights and weekends, one every two hours. It will
leave essentially on the hour, or even hour, as the case may be. When
going to San Francisco, don't worry about it going backwards; there is
an operator in the last car of the train. Travel time: 1 1/2 hours. At
San Francisco, catch the #30 trolleybus (looks like a bus, but runs on
electricity from two overhead cables) at a stop just across the
street, and it will take you into SF's central business district,
where there are plenty of bookstores. Fare is $1 (the farebox will
accept dollar bills). The Castro district is accessible by taking the
Muni streetcars at a Market Street station (they're underground there,
like BART), and getting off at the Castro St. station. You get off
there and go southward (downhill) into the Castro district. There is
an abundance of gay-interest books and magazines, so you can see for
yourself what gay people are like. From SF, the train leaves on the
same schedule as from SJ.

	To Berkeley:

	You go northward on I-880, and turn off eastward [right] at
Mowry St.  in Fremont. You go several blocks to Civic Center Dr., then
turn southward [right]. Just before you turn, you should see a
concrete elevated trackway up ahead. You go a little bit, then turn
left into BART Way. Up ahead will be the Fremont Bay Area Rapid
Transit [BART] station, with its elevated trackway and platform.
Parking should be easy to find on weekends, so don't worry too much
about that. You go to the street level of the station, below the
trackway, and buy your ticket. You check how much is the fare from
Fremont to Berkeley and back from a table, then put the appropriate
money into a ticket dispenser (it accepts dollar bills, and gives
change). The ticket will show how much you have left after each use.
Fare should be about $2 each way. To enter, you put the ticket into a
faregate. It will spit the ticket out a little bit ahead. Walk in and
take the ticket. The faregate will open, and you can now walk through.
The BART trains will be on the upper level; either walk or go by
escalator. Take the train headed for Richmond (every 20 minutes
off-peak). The ride will be about 45 minutes. You will have a very
scenic view along the elevated portions of BART's route; the BART
trains have fabric-covered cushion seats, carpeted floors, and _big_
windows. At Berkeley, go upward and go through a faregate as I had
described. There is a map in the station which will show exactly where
the university is; it is to the east [uphill] of the station. Cody's
Books is on Telegraph Ave.  and Haste St., just south of the
university. You can either walk the rest of the way or take a local
bus.

/Loren

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