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From: fabio@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Fabio Crestani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: info about Indianapolis
Date: 9 Jan 93 12:22:06 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

Hi there,

I am going to waist a bit of your time asking you all to give me some info
about Indianapolis: places to visit, place to go for eating, drinking,
listening music, shopping and so on. 

I happen to go there for a conference and, as I usually do, I want to stay
a bit longer to visit the place. I am therefore also interested in finding a
reasonably cheap place to stay for few days after the conference.

Anyone wants to give me a help?

Thanks in advance,

			Fabio
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.usa:9505 soc.culture.indian:43057
From: sbp5893@tamsun.tamu.edu (Suresh Peram)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why is Yoga considered an occult practise?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 11:44:23 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

In article <1993Jan3.210347.20759@ariel.ec.usf.edu> mccolm@darwin.math.usf.edu. (Gregory McColm) writes:
::>
::>While I hate to shock the innocent young, it is possible to go to 
::>your neighborhood bookstore and buy a copy of INTRODUCTION TO YOGA 
::>in which one learns how to do ALL SORTS OF TOP SECRET YOGA EXERCISES 
::>without any duly authorized supervision whatsoever.  And quite a 
::>number of us not only use this book (its cheaper than gurus!) but 
::>even perform exercises!  No doubt this is destroying us spiritually.
::>And it isn't just Yoga.  Some people sell books on how to play 
::>Chess.  And predictably, the result is an army of inferior Chess 
::>players.  But the REAL ugliness lies in the immense population of 
::>tennis-players-who-think-that-they-play-almost-as-good-as-McEnroe-
::>but-really-are-as-bad-as-dyspeptic-seals.
::>
::>It doesn't make sense.  Many yoga exercises (mostly stretching 
::>exercises) have been appropriated by PE instructors because 
::>calisthenics require stretching warm-ups.  So much for the special 
::>claim that yoga is harmful to the uninitiated (in fact, yoga is 
::>not dangerous as, say, weightlifting is dangerous;  should people 
::>lift weights only under the direction of physical therapists?).
::>And I do not think that yoga should be restricted to those who 
::>accept yoga's spiritual claims---any more than I believe that 
::>mathematics should be restricted to Platonists (yes, Virginia, 
::>there is indeed an Official Mathematics Religion over 2000 yrs old).

   I agree that Yoga is not any more dangerous than
   any other sport/exercise.  I have been practicing yogic
   exercises (asanas and pranayama) for the last 11 years
   without ever having consulted a teacher or guru.  Most
   of the "dangers" in yoga can be avioded by any sufficiently
   smart person (i.e anybody who knows when the height is
   more than what he can safely jump without breaking his legs).
   Also, most of the dangers are sufficiently well-illustrated
   in the books.  

   Yoga can be fun and can make you happy and healthier.  I
   think over time one can gain a lot of control over his/her
   body and eventually the mind.  Personally, I have been
   able to get rid of my respiratory problems and disorders of
   the digestive system just by observing which exercises were
   most effective in each case.  I think that a careful
   experimentation with yogic and other exercises sure can
   be very beneficial.

   Suresh Peram
From: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Is New York the only city in the USA to have a subway?
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:12:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0F2Gz.8H.1
	<C0Ezzn.83u@world.std.com>
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <C0Ezzn.83u@world.std.com> philip@world.std.com (Philip Borenstein) writes:


   >In article <1993Jan5.183145.18587@spider.co.uk> michaelr@spider.co.uk (Michael S. A. Robb) writes:
   >>Having watched a couple of films with scenes located in New York's
   >>subway, some friends and I wondered whether any other cities in the
   >>USA also had subways, and whether they were given such a bad image
   >>as New York's. Any information which would bring enlightenment would
   >>be welcome.

   The Boston subway has a fairly benign reputation, though some lines
   are more infamous than others. One reason the subway (called the
   "T") in Boston is so tame is that it shuts down by 1:00AM. Another
   reason is that it's relatively small: four lines with connections
   among all four downtown. It's neither charming nor quaint, but it
   works. Most of the time.

Do the lights in the Red Line cars still blink when the train comes up
out of Cambridge to cross the Longfellow bridge?

--
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School of Computer Science		UUCP: 	     uunet!"clamen@cs.cmu.edu"
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue)
Subject: Re: US interventionism
Originator: jsue@mars.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: The Dow Chemical Company
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:14:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.234847.8548@digi.lonestar.org> gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo) writes:
>In article <1idcggINNav1@shelley.u.washington.edu> kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante) writes:
>>In article 10666, gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo) writes,
>>in part:
>>
>>> Yet how can
>>>you look at the conditions in Somalia and just pontificate away
>>>about the relative value of human life?  Because we botched the
>>>job in Iraq and propped up the Kuwaiti royal family, must we now
>>>just leave the people of Somalia to their own fate?
>>
>>One other thing, Gerry: We didn't just "botch the job" in Iraq. 
>>We killed a lot of innocent people there, just as we have done
>>all of over the world.  I tend to think that our actively and
>>directly causing those deaths puts "the job" in Iraq in a
>>different moral class from the inaction I advocate in regard to
>>Somalia.
>
>Good point.  But I am not ready to concede absolutely that the
>action was entirely wrong.  This whole question of what our interests
>really are viz a viz the rest of the world is not an easy one
>to answer.  And that includes the opposition to totalitarianism
>and terrorism.  
>
>Yet I am also becoming more and more convinced that,
>my stated opinions notwithstanding, most forms of action
>on a national scale are going to be either fruitless or
>counterproductive, or downright destructive.  Somehow there
>has got to be a better way to work from individuals outward.
>

Uh, yeah.  Didn't we try this with Saddam for quite some time before
realizing that he lives by the sword.  I don't know if this is part
of their culture or what, but Saddam was given ample opportunity to
cease the mass destruction of innocent people.  He refused.

The idea that we "work from individuals outward" is fine, but if
that doesn't work you can't rule out a more... hmm... 'active' role.
I'd be willing to bet that Saddam didn't believe for a minute that
the rest of the world would respond as we did then.  So, if you 
aren't willing to take all necessary steps then you better be willing
to accept what happens when someone calls your bluff.

-- 
-----
Jeff Sue   
 - All opinions are mine -       (and you can't have any, nya nya nya)
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Is the Gulf war won?
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:03:13 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University



>Why didn't the americans finish the job once they had it started?
>They won the battle but the eneny is not beaten...
>
>Well,I agree that the original mission was to recapture Quwait,but it could
>have been a smart move to eliminate the Iraqi threat at the same time...


To keep the balance of power in the middle east.  Our coalition friends still
want Saddam there to keep Iran in check.  Destroy Iraq's army and Iran would
have free rein over the middle east.  Other middle east countries just want to
keep the over all power in check.  At least, this was the analysis I read as
to why the coalition forces did not oust Saddam.







-- 

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|   Gail A. Fullman    |
|   Manager - ADMO     |
|   Ext. 83113         |
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From: rel@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: University of Michigan Address Wanted
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:05:02 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Could some nice person please send me the e-mail address for the University of
Michigan at East Lansing,

Thanx in advance.....

rob.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell)
Subject: Re: Is New York the only city in the USA to have a subway?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:48:40 GMT

In <1993Jan6.134232.84379@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman) writes:

>New York's is probably the oldest or close to it.  Other US cities have
For the record Boston has the honor of the first subway in the U.S.
Although not ultra-modern they have be updating equipment and stations.
73 Eric   eac@world.std.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein)
Subject: Re: Is New York the only city in the USA to have a subway?
Organization: Panix, NYC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:19:46 GMT

just a general point of info:  There has been a pretty extensive
discussion on soc.culture.canada (or soc.canada.culture?) describing the
Montreal subway system.  which makes NYC's look like (expletive deleted)

dannyb@panix.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: Is New York the only city in the USA to have a subway?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date:  7 Jan 93 23:52:19 GMT

michaelr@spider.co.uk (Michael S. A. Robb) writes:

>Having watched a couple of films with scenes located in New York's
>subway, some friends and I wondered whether any other cities in the
>USA also had subways, and whether they were given such a bad image as
>New York's. 

   Public transit in the U.S., though there are some exceptions, tends
to be dirty, uncomfortable, and dangerous.  The New York City subway is
the most notorious system in this regard, but many other cities have
transit that's equally as repulsive.

   I don't think that many Europeans realize that public transit in
America is considered to be like welfare, poor houses, or state asylums:
a grudgingly given act of charity towards those who are too poor, too
weak, or too dysfunctional to care for themselves.  Almost the first
thing I noticed when I got on the London Underground was that, unlike
any U.S. subway, the destitute, the drunk, the dangerous, and the
clinically insane seemed to form only a very small minority of the
passengers.
From: silva@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Holly Silva)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: US interventionism
Date: 7 Jan 1993 01:38:58 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante) writes:
>crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun) writes:
>
>>We killed about 100,000 of the Iraqi military.  These people were massed on
>>the Saudi border, armed and prepared to invade, seize property, and maim
>>and kill innocent Saudis.  They were already doing that in Kuwait. 
>>By what stretch do you consider these to be "innocent" people?
>
>Those aren't the people I'm talking about, William.  Perhaps it
>escaped your notice that many more people were killed who were
>not wearing uniforms and who had no interest whatsoever in the
>U.S. - Iraqi conflict.  The people I'm referring to were by and
>large too young to care: there's a virtual demographic hole in
>Iraq's population because so many children died through
>starvation and the diseases that followed your destruction of the
>country's infrastructure. 

	And it's fairly clear from your use of the language Giansante
that the people who would have suffered and died in a world where 
Sadam Hussein set the price of oil are the kind who would've escaped your
notice. Perhaps most Westerners would've suffered only unemployment and
modest forms of hardship -- not the killing kind. But the oil price
shocks of the 1970's imposed real and severe impoverishment on many
nations of the third world. Most of them, in fact, were _not_ beneficiaries
of high oil prices. The Nigerias, Indonesias and Venezuelas were few and
far between. It's not a simple matter to quantify how many more children
in the Belizes and Madagascars would've died because their nation's money 
went for fuel oil instead of vaccines and water treatment facilities -- 
but they'd have out-numbered those innocent Iraqi dead by a few orders of 
magnitude before the price of fuel fell to a market driven norm again.
	The sort of 'logic' which permeates your response to Crosmun
is the sort of 'logic' which permits the wealthy elites of western
Europe to sit on their hands while thousands are slaughtered in what
was once Yugoslavia --- Don't engage in any agression,for any reason!
You might kill innocent people, and displease the righteous leftist
among you!

Many other innocent people of all ages
>were killed outright in the bombing and in ground operations. 
>These casualties have been well reported in the aftermath of the
>war; they are a matter of record, although the final toll is not
>yet known because the effects of your actions have not yet ceased
>to be felt.
>
	And the final death toll in a world where we didn't act
in agressive response will never be known --- because the effects
of our actions have not yet ceased to be felt.

--
======================================================================
|| Holly Silva			I have nothing terribly clever to say||
|| Applied Earth Sciences	today.  You're in luck.		     ||
|| Stanford University						     ||
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue)
Subject: Re: Is the Gulf war won?
Originator: jsue@mars.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: The Dow Chemical Company
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:19:48 GMT

In article <m0n9uHW-000QzMC@aton.abo.fi> skronkvi@aton.abo.fi (Stefan Kronkvist INF) writes:
>
>
>So what did the americans achive? Saddam is still killing Kurds and other
>minorities.Iraq is probably still working on its nuclear program.After a 
>couple of years Iraq might be "back in business" stronger than before with
>new tactics and capable of fireing "nuclear and biological Scuds".
>
>Why didn't the americans finish the job once they had it started?
>They won the battle but the eneny is not beaten...

Exactly.  Saddam is not the only one to make mistakes... we did as well.
If you're going to do battle you've got to have the stomach to finish
the job.  Otherwise just stay home.

>
>Well,I agree that the original mission was to recapture Quwait,but it could
>have been a smart move to eliminate the Iraqi threat at the same time...
>

With this I agree.  I think we overestimated the power of the Iraqi
people to do away with a lunatic leader.
-- 
-----
Jeff Sue   
 - All opinions are mine -       (and you can't have any, nya nya nya)
From: skronkvi@aton.abo.fi (Stefan Kronkvist INF)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Is the Gulf war won?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 04:16:52 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



>> John writes ... <<

>Don't you know that Iraq, a nation that is headed by
>a maniac and is inhabited by a large number of fanatics, was in within 
>striking distance of capturing over 80 percent of the world's oil supply...

Well Iraq is in fact still headed by the same leader and inhabited with the
same population.(About 50% of the population belongs to the same group as 
the Saudi and the Quwaiti people.)

>I don't like the idea of war, but you have to face up to the fact that there
>are times when it becomes important to fight for the integrity of your nation,
>and for the freedom of your allies...

Freedom for the Quwaiti leaders or for its people.Quwait isn't a very 
democratic nation,or is it ?

>I am happy for and poud of 
>my American neighbours for the speed and decisive manner in which they 
>eliminated a world threat.  I hope that it never happens again.

This world threat is not eliminated.
         -Saddam is still the leader of Iraq.
         -Iraq is still populated by the same "fanatics"
         -Iraq is probably still in possession of chemical (and maybe 
          biological weapons).

So what did the americans achive? Saddam is still killing Kurds and other
minorities.Iraq is probably still working on its nuclear program.After a 
couple of years Iraq might be "back in business" stronger than before with
new tactics and capable of fireing "nuclear and biological Scuds".

Why didn't the americans finish the job once they had it started?
They won the battle but the eneny is not beaten...

Well,I agree that the original mission was to recapture Quwait,but it could
have been a smart move to eliminate the Iraqi threat at the same time...


      comments ?


                           skronkvi@aton.abo.fi                                
                           --------------------

 




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From: higa@lclark.edu (Keith Higa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: [Usono] alta produkto-grado en Usono                                            [United States] high productivity in the U.S.A.
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:08:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1993Jan12.050805.15980
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <uos3b30@zola.esd.sgi.com> cigno@sgi.com (Kevin Walsh) writes:
>Kvankam mi malofte akordas kun Chung, mi kredas ke li pravas se li 
>diras ke usonanoj laboras tro multe cxe la "laborejo".   Ofte la 
>malricxuloj laboras tre forte, longe, kaj por malmulta mono.  En 
>Bostono, mi konis homojn kiuj faris hazardajn laborojn (odd jobs).  Ili 
>kutime uzis "crank" (stimulantajn drogojn, ekz. benzedrino) ebligi ke 
>ili povas labori du au tri tagoj sen dormo.  Eble ili estas la plej forte 
>laborantajn homojn kujn mi konas.  Ili ankau estas inter la plej 
>malricxajn kiujn mi konas.  Sed ili konis homojn ecx pli malricxajn.   
>
>Io estas rompita kun mia lando.  Ecx tiuj kiuj laboras forte ne povas 
>pagi por viziti malsanejo se ili vundigxas.  (Unu el miaj amikoj, kiu 
>konstruas domojn, jxus ricevis fakturon por pli ol $5000 cxar li 
>bezonis viziti malsanejo por cxesi sangfluo de lia nazo.  Li ne havas 
>asekuron, do ni ne scias kiel li povas pagi.)  Iuj lernejoj ne povas 
>aceti librojn sed aliaj havas komputilojn.  
>
>Kien iras la valoro de nia laboro?  al autoj?  al militoj?   Mi vere ne 
>scias.  Sed estas klara ke io estas rompita.  

[Oops.  For non-Esperantists, here's the English translation.]

Although I occasionally agree with Chung, I believe he is right if he says
that Americans too much at the workplace.  Often the poor work very hard, for
long hours, and for little money.  In Boston, I know people who did odd jobs.
They usually used "crank" (stimulant drugs, e.g. benzedrine) to be able to 
work two or three hours without sleep.  Possible they are the hardest working
people whom I know.  They also are among the poorest whom I know.  But they
know people even poorer.

Something is broken with my country.  Even those who work hard cannot pay to
go to the hospital if they are wounded.  (One of my friends, who builds
houses, just received a bill for over $5000 because he needed to go to the
hospital to stop a nosebleed.  He does not have insurance, so we don't
know how he can pay.)  Some schools cannot buy books but others have
computers.

Where did the value of our work go?  To cars?  To wars?  I really don't know.
But it is clear that something is broken.

-- 
Keith K. Higa                         Lewis & Clark College    
higa@lclark.edu                       Portland, OR, USA
In a hierarchy each member tends to rise to his/her level of incompetence.
                                 --The Peter Principle
From: bigstar@stein.u.washington.edu (J. Paschel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Help needed on Lotteries
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:48:13 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu


I am currently working on research toward a better predictive theory of
lottery participation.  Surprisingly little has been written on this
subject and what little work I was able to uncover is generally
characterized by weak methodology or an absence of empirical support.  I
started with extensive survey data and found that background (or
demographic) factors explain very little in terms of a given individuals
involvement in state run lotteries. (i.e. it just isnt the case that poor
people buy more lottery tickets) Now, I am turning to more qualitative
based interviews in attempt to construct useful categories and for further
data collection efforts. 

In addition to my collection of personal interviews I would like to add to
my body of knowledge by soliciting responses to the following
questionnaire. I would appreciate any responses in whatever detail you
have time for.  The questions are not specifically personal in nature,
however feel free to ignore any questions you feel invasive. Also, it goes
without saying that I plan to strip the headers of all replies so as to
ensure anonymity. 

If interest warrants, I will certainly post a summary collection of
results.  Lastly, any participation will be rewarded by many thanks from a
curious researcher ;'>

Direct all replies to  bigstar@stein.u.washington.edu 

1) Thinking back to the first time you played a state lottery, how or why 
did you *first* decide to participate ?

	a - Did anyone else in your life play at that time ?

2) How do you *currently* play the lottery ?

	a - How do you decide when to play ?
	
	b - How many tickets do you buy ?
	
	c -If you have ever won anything, what did you do with the money ?

3) When playing, do you discuss your decision to play with anybody ?

	a - Do family members, friends, or work associates play ?

4) Some people think of playing the lottery as risky behavior..others do 
not.  Do you think playing the lottery is risky behavior ?  Why ?

5) What would your response be to people who question the merit of 
participating in state run lotteries ?

6) Why do you play the lottery ?

Thanks very much for your time.

	<<<bigstar@stein.u.washington.edu>>>
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