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From: dec@alex.demon.co.uk (Doug Clinton)
Subject: Re: Why is the File Manager in OW 3.0 so buggy?
Reply-To: dec@s-strat.co.uk
Organization: Alex Technologies Ltd
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:53:11 GMT

In article <3219@peking.gdwb.oz.au>, csb@gdwb.oz.au (Craig Bishop) writes:
|> nghoff@albert.monsanto.com (Norman G. Hoffman) writes:
|> 
|> >What would you say must be added to the Calender (sic) Manager
|> >to make it useful (besides a spell checker)?
|> 
|> If you were reading this group earlier this year you would have
|> seen a petition which was organised concerning the Calendar
|> Manager. It is still bubbling along. It will be interesting to
|> see how many of the problems it identifies and the RFE's which
|> were subsequently attached to those problems are fixed in 
|> upcoming versions of the Calendar Manager.
|> 
|> Here is the petition and the RFE's. This represents the the
|> request by over 80 adminitrators running over 10,000 Sun 
|> Workstations.
|> 
|> 		***************************

		<list of items deleted>

All the points on the list would obviously be useful enhancements to
the Calendar Manager. But I am curious as to why the compilers of this
petition feel that Sun *should* provide all the extra features. In my
opinion, the calenday manager, and most of the other desket tools, are
useful, relatively lightwight free tools provided by Sun as a courtesy
(other systems I have seen, eg IBM, HP) do not come with tools which
are anywhere near as useful.

Why should Sun put the time and money into enhancing the tools? May
companies provide the features asked for in commercial products. If
Sun were to add all the items in this petition would people be
prepared to pay extra for the Calendar Manager?

I would, however, like to get hold of the spec for interfacing to the
calendar manager demon, and feel that this is something we should
expect from Sun in the interest of Open Systems (so I could, for
instance, develop a compatible CM on an HP).

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: erwin@nioz.nl (Erwin Embsen)
Subject: Scrolling list
Originator: erwin@nioz.nl
Organization: Nederlands Instituut voor Onderzoek der Zee (NIOZ)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:34:12 GMT


Hi,

I am trying to create a GUI based on XView using DevGuide. The GUI I am
writing contains a scrolling PANEL_LIST which should work very similar
to the one in the DevGuide Load Popup window.
For example, double clicking on an item representing a directory should
cause the 'loader' to cd to that directory. 
My question might be a very basic one but how do I implement selection
on double-clicking using XView?

Erwin.
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From: hliao@zeus.calstatela.edu (Henry Liao)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Highlight color in OW [23]
Keywords: highlight, color, openwin
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:28:00 GMT
Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles

Here is a trivial question for the net.
Someone mentioned to me that you can change the color of highlight (reverse
video) in OW.  Is this true for all applications or just certain ones?

-Henry Liao					o
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From: uwek@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Jens-Uwe Knaebchen)
Subject: Question: Resize a Tree-Widget
Keywords: OLIT Widget Set, Tree-Widget
Organization: tu-chemnitz
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:51:45 GMT


Hi,

I use OLIT Widget Set and C++.
I need in my application a scrolled window ( scrolledWindowWidgetClass), which
contains a tree ( XstreeWidgetClass by Douglas A.Young & John Pew).
The tree must be create dynamically in the program, after building the other
widgets ( in XtMainLoop).
No problems, I thought, but when I created the tree widget without a predefined
size, the tree and of course the scrolled window shrinks to a little rectangle
with a width and height from 5 pixels.
Otherwise, if I created the widget with a predefined size then the window is 
either to big or to small ( nodes are invisible).

Please, can anybody explain a solution.

Thanks

	Jens-Uwe

email: Jens-Uwe.Knaebchen@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview
From: izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il (Ilan Aisic)
Subject: converting snf fonts to OpenWin ff/fb 
Reply-To: izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il (Ilan Aisic)
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:32:15 GMT

Does anyone know how to convert fonts which are in "snf" format into
the standard OpenWindows format?
I couldn't find reference to that in Sun's manuals.
The command "bdftosnf" whill convert the Bitmap Distribution Format
 (BDF) font to X11 server normal font (SNF) format.
The command "convertfont" will convert to the X11/News format but it
will not take an SNF font as its input.

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From: doehr@magellan.den.mmc.com (Brett B. Doehr)
Subject: Re: XView 3: PANEL_FONT for a scrolling list
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:12:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.022032.25886@sq.sq.com>, lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin) writes:
|> OK, how do I set the font for an entire scrolling list in XView 3, not
|> just an item at a time?  I can set the font of the parent panel, and this
|> affects the list.  I've even tried setting the set_font element in the 
|> (private) Panel_list_info struct, but this doesn't work.

This isn't quite what you want, but may be the "best" one-at-a-time solution:

Xv_font font1; // Set font1 to desired font...

xv_set(panel_list, PANEL_LIST_FONTS, font1, font1, [...], NULL, NULL);

Basically, PANEL_LIST_FONTS takes a NULL-terminated list of fonts that
it assigns in turn to each row in the list.  So, it only takes one xv_set
and one attribute within the xv_set, but you must repeat the name of the
font once for each row.  This at least was the way of XView 2.0, don't
know if there is a better way in XView 3.0.

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From: tj2n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tao Jiang)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: XView warning: Notifier error
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:23:26 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Statistics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Hi,

When I excuted any program (compiled by using libxview), I got the error
as

XView warning: Notifier error:  Bad file number.

Can somebody mail me some hints?
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: wolf@mt.att.com (Thomas Wolf)
Subject: openwin overwrite DISPLAY?
Reply-To: wolf@mt.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:06:36 GMT

I never noticed this before, but the openwin script doesn't care what you set your
DISPLAY environment variable to - once in OW3.0, this variable
will invariably contain the default: ":0" (or what follows the '-display' option
when invoking openwin...in any event, there's a comment in openwin script stating
"complain if $DISPLAY doesn't begin with ':').  Is this common knowledge?  I never
had any problems (ie. my DISPLAY never changed) on my machine - I think because
I define my own XINITRC file - but I noticed it when I tried running an application
which requires DISPLAY to be set to something (unix:0.0 or hostname:0.0) on a
Sun SPARCstation that just had OW3.0 installed.

What alternatives are there for having this set - aside from constantly setting
it on the command-line when invoking openwin (or writing an alias or script?)  The
solution has to work for a "naive" user.

Sorry if this is a FAQ (or if I'm just totally off-base).  Thanks for any suggestions,
Tom

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: gibbons@libra.suneng (Alan Gibbons)
Subject: Save Workspace with olvwm
Reply-To: gibbons@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola ASIC Group
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:59:30 GMT

How do you get "save workspace" to save the position of the Virtual Desktop ?

I have tried all the usuall explicit position arguments with the command itself 
and it pukes.

Any suggestions ? - email or post is fine - I haven't seen it discussed recently.

-Alan

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From: adc@tardis.msu.edu (Alan D. Cabrera)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Xview: Drawing to the user interface from a
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:01:34 GMT
Reply-To: adc@tardis.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University

In article l9e40bINNth@saltillo.cs.utexas.edu, julian@cs.utexas.edu (Dun Julian Wong) writes:
> I am writing an X-Window application using Xview. There are two processes in 
> the program that are run concurrently. One of the process is the user
> interface, which is controled by xv_main_loop(). The other is my main() program.
> 

I would think that having two processes conversing with X, even with
the "correct" parameters, would be very confusing to the underlying
code, hence the core dump.

I would rather ask the question, why split your application into two
processes in such a way that BOTH need to do X window calls?  This
indicates to me muddy thinking and the design of your program needs to
be thought out.

Of course, I could be wrong; if I had a nickle for ever time I was
wrong...  I'm very interested in hearing about your application as I
still believe that you have improperly partitioned your problem.


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From: uit-hotline@midniteoil.Eng.Sun.COM (UIT Hotline)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: XView & C+++
Date: 1 Sep 1992 20:07:44 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: uit-hotline@midniteoil.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: midniteoil

In article 2852@media03.UUCP, pkr@media03.UUCP (Peter Kriens) writes:
>I am in a hurry...
>X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
>
>The xview library uses pseudo objects which could be
>very nicely encapsulated by C++ objects. Did anyone do
>this, commercially or personally? I am very interested
>in the results.
>
>Please reply with e-mail to minimize traffic
>
>	Peter Kriens
>ss

The UIT is precisely that.  Patchlevel 11 of UIT V2 can be obtained from:

	export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/UITV2.tar.Z

There are several support mail aliases:

	uit-hotline@midniteoil.Eng.Sun.COM - For reporting bugs and
			suggestions that you want to send directly
			to the developer (me).  Also, send requests
			to be added to the uit-interest alias to the
			hotline.

	uit-interest@midniteoil.Eng.Sun.COM - For general discussion
			among UIT users.  Also, all new UIT announcements
			are sent to the interest alias.

	uit-sw-request@midniteoil.Eng.Sun.COM - Mail request server for
			obtaining UIT and upgrades.  Currently patchlevel
			11 of UIT V2 is available.  There are also small
			upgrade files available that fix bugs in PL 11.

If you have any questions, please send them to the hotline...

							- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: specifying xterm icons in open-look/openwindows
From: ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg)
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:16:03 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: San Francisco State University


Hello :
	Is there a simple way, perferably a command line option, to specify
the xterm icon .. The generic one is driving me crazy. I
have search hi and lo for it. My guess is that there is some obscure
resource string that one can use.
Thanks ...

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: ToolTalk, PageView, Filemgr
From: rouquett@Aig.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Nicolas Rouquette)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:42:42 GMT
Reply-To: rouquett@aig.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA/Jet Propulsion Laboratory


With 'strings pageview' I can tell that the program can respond
to a tooltalk protocol. Does anyone know what message format needs to be
broadcasted for a pageview to accept it and display a postscript file?

I'm interested for two reasons:

filemgr: if you open a ps file, a new pageview program is started; 
	 that's usually slow. Loading a new ps file instead would be faster.

tex/latex & emacs: Same concept from a different environment. 
 	 From emacs, it's very easy to invoke tex, latex, bibtex, or dvips. 
 	 It would be even more convevient to send a tooltalk msg to pageview
 	 for a quick preview.

----------Nicolas Rouquette----------rouquett@aig.jpl.nasa.gov
    Artificial Intelligence Group
      Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: smartin@Canada.lsil.com (Stephen Martin)
Subject: Pushbutton events not getting delivered to program
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation of Canada, Inc.
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:33:40 GMT

I've recently started having some problems with some Open Windows programs
that I've written (Using olit not Xview). It seems that when i click on
a button, the button inverts but the callback routine is not called. I can
get the callback routine to be executed by placeing the mouse on the button
and hitting the space bar, all other input to the program works fine. Also
this problem is common to a couple of different programs that I've written
but not to any of the tools that come with Open Windows. Has anyone seen
anything like this? By the way, i'm running Open Windows 3.0 with olvwm 3.2.
This problem seems to have cropped up after I upgraded from SunOS 4.1.1 to
4.1.2.

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Organisation: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet, Muenster, Germany
Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 10:01:35 MES
From: Frank Wuebbeling <WUEBBEL@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: DevGuide3.0 Libs-Who owns the source?

We are currently developping *lots* of software with devguide3.0, most of
which can not be distributed on the net as sources because it needs
the devguide3.0-libraries to compile, in particular the DRAG'n'DROP and
filebox-codes, which are provided in source together with devguide
but protected by SUN, as I believed.

However, a quick search showed that some public software packages include
the devguide-source in their sources and distribute it freely. I wouldn't
be surprised if SUN supports this as xview needs lots of support if it is
really supposed to be able to compete with the widget sets...

Can the source be distributed freely?
If yes, why is it not a part of xview3?

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From: kak@durante.att.com (Kurt Kanaskie [151])
Subject: Re: Is there a book on x-resources??
Organization: Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:57:57 GMT
Keywords: Translations, Key bindings

> Specific user interface toolkits (the Xt Intrinsics, OSF/Motif, XView, 
> OI, etc.) will often have a list of resources that the toolkit itself 
> looks for internally; you can usually learn about these resources from 
> the toolkit documentation, ...


I have been trying to find the definitions of the translations for XView's text editor,
with little luck. I found some stuff using answerbook under the SunView section.

I would like to customize my translations to add a join line operation.
This is easy in most toolkits, its simply "end of line" and "delete next char"
operations bound to a keystroke.

For example:

	TextObject*Translations: Ctrl <Key>M: end_of_line() delete_next_character()

Can this sort of thing be done in XView?

___________________________________________________________________

Kurt Kanaskie				AT&T Bell Laboratories
kak@alux5.att.com			Computer Aided Design Lab
(215) 770-3096				Allentown PA

        
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From: dansmith@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Re: XView 3: PANEL_FONT for a scrolling list
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:43:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

In <1992Sep1.022032.25886@sq.sq.com> lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin) writes:

> OK, how do I set the font for an entire scrolling list in XView 3, not
> just an item at a time?  I can set the font of the parent panel, and this
> affects the list.  I've even tried setting the set_font element in the 
> (private) Panel_list_info struct, but this doesn't work.

	Don't think there is way around "an item at a time"...

            /* Set the current list string, as well as its proper font. */
            xv_set(listbox->tile.item,
                   PANEL_LIST_STRING, i, trunc_str, 
                   PANEL_LIST_FONT, i, graphfont,
                   NULL);

	Actually, if you're going to set a lot at once, then perhaps
you'll go the attr_choice_list route (including code I got from
someone on the net earlier this year, thanks!)
 
Attr_avlist create_attr_choice_list();
Attr_avlist create_attr_scroll_list();

/*
  create_attr_choice_list -> creates and returns an Attr_avlist.
        INPUTS :
                strings -> pointer to a list of strings
                num -> number of strings to put in list
 
        OUTPUTS :
                size -> number of elements in the Attr_avlist
*/
 
Attr_avlist create_attr_choice_list(strings, num)
        char *strings[];
        int num;
{
        int i, size, row = 1;
        Attr_avlist list;
 
        size = num + 3;
        list = (Attr_avlist) malloc((unsigned)(size * sizeof(Attr_attribute)));
        list[0] = (Attr_attribute) PANEL_CHOICE_STRINGS;
 
        for (i = 0; i< num; i++, row++)
                list[row] = (Attr_attribute) strings[i];
 
        list[row] = (Attr_attribute) NULL;
        list[row + 1] = (Attr_attribute) NULL;
 
        return list;
}
 
 
 
 
Attr_avlist create_attr_scroll_list(strings, num)
        char *strings[];
        int num;
{
        int i, size, row = 1;
        Attr_avlist list;
 
        size = num + 3;
        list = (Attr_avlist) malloc((unsigned)(size * sizeof(Attr_attribute)));
        list[0] = (Attr_attribute) PANEL_LIST_STRINGS;
 
        for (i = 0; i< num; i++, row++)
                list[row] = (Attr_attribute) strings[i];
 
        list[row] = (Attr_attribute) NULL;
        list[row + 1] = (Attr_attribute) NULL;
 
        return list;
}
 
 
	and:

        attr_list = create_attr_choice_list(strings, strcnt);
        xv_set(popup->tile.item, ATTR_LIST, attr_list, NULL);

	Something like that...adjust for scrolling list.  Hope
this points in the right direction for you.

				Daniel
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: sandiway@research.nj.nec.com (Sandiway Fong)
Subject: record/playback for Openwindows 3.0?
Originator: sandiway@gb
Reply-To: sandiway@research.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 06:46:42 GMT


Hi,

  Now that the user interface we're building is nearing completion, I'd like
to have an automated demo button that demos the system to the first-time user.
Is there a record/playback facility that works with the xnews server shipped
with Openwindows 3.0?

Incidentally, there's no mention of such a device in the OpenLook FAQ (at
least in the version I have) and xrecplay on export.lcs.mit.edu seems to
require an R5 server.

Thanks very much,

Sandiway

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 11:12:25 PDT
From: wolinsky@isys.com (Jeff Wolinsky)
Subject: Re:  XView 3: PANEL_FONT for a scrolling list

In my dreams, I see an attribute called 'PANEL_FIXEDWIDTH',
which takes the values TRUE or FALSE, and works on scrolling lists,
messages, etc.

Hmmmm.....  Just a dream.....


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