HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tsau@cae.wisc.edu (Johne Tsau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Wisconsin at Iowa
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:32:35 GMT

Am I the only one who feels that Wisconsin at Iowa this week will be
tougher than Ohio at Wisconsin?  Wisconsin has a history of playing
OSU hard, but when was the last time UW beat Iowa at home?  Iowa
is hungry for a win now (if not hungry for some confidence back), and
Iowa is not as bad as their record shows.  Afterall, all of their losses
were to Top-20 teams I believe...

Wisconsin will have to play no(few) mistake football I think to win in Iowa
City.  Eliminate the penalties, make smart passes, and don't make
turnovers.  Iowa is solid enough on offense to take advantage of
most mistakes.

BTW, does anyone have team statistics for the Big10? Thanx...

--
Johne...   Kariel the Margrave
"The question the truly scientific ask is 'Did God make man,
 or did man make God?'"

UNIX Address            : tsau@cae.wisc.edu
Real World Address      : 5348 Brummel St, Skokie, IL 60077
Real World Phone        : (708) 674-2947
From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Kill Files (was Re: Sorry, Gophers!)
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:16:57 GMT
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Oct2.041136.8473@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!caen!uunet!boulder!tigger!manu
|> In article <BvH038.3rC.1@cs.cmu.edu> bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble) writes:
|> >
|> >This isn't the same Colorado known as "The University of California,
|> >Boulder", because of all the brain-damaged Californians that couldn't
|> >even get admitted to a respectable Cal State that attend, is it?
|> 
|> No actually it's the smart californians who come to CU because they don't
|> want to be on shaky ground!
|> 
|> >And what does this have to do with football, anyway?  Other than
|> >California tends to export lots of good cheerleader material to CU.
|> 
|> Added incentive, perhaps?
|> 
|> >Brian
|> 
|> Njan

I have been using the usenet for three to four years but have never felt the
need to figure out how to make a kill file unitl now.  Can someone e-mail
me instructions on how to kill file this goombah?  I would say the mountain air
is affecting his brain, but I lived in Niwot, Co for 20 years and can't come 
close to his level of nimroddishness.

Murph

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Subject: Re: #1 Washington vs #2 Penn State
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:28:50 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

Hey, I'm a HUGE Penn State fan, too, and I'd love to see it happen.  But,
even if we do go 11-0, Michigan's still going to be in the way.  We would
need UCLA to play Michigan and have UCLA win...Michigan is the No. 1 team in
football right now - both by my rankings and the computer rankings!!!!!!
The Big 10 is tough!  #1 Michigan  #2 Washington  #3 Miami #4 Florida State
                      #5 Penn State - we've got a long way to go if we wanna
                      win it all !!!!!!!
                                      -Hopeful but realistic in Happy Valley!
From: ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Who is number 1?
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:44:54 GMT
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC

In article <ASH.92Oct5090713@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>
>Washington - played poorly against USC
>Miami - exciting but sloppy game.  Good defense.  Offense shaky all year.
>FSU - Nope.  Lost a game.
>Michigan - Perhaps the best team in the country right now, but has a tie.
>Texas A&M - barely beat texas Tech.
>
>
>Only Michigan had a good game this week in the top five.  Hopefully,
>
I think you had better start including UT in your calculations of the top five
and MNC race!!!!

Dale
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: let the hooting begin...
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:17:23 GMT

Let the hooting begin.

Miami     8
Aridzona  7

Go canes!  (not)

Michigan  61
Houston    7

Jenkins deserved it.


My top five:

1 Warshington
2 Fl. St. (at least until next week)
3 Michigan
4 Miami
5 Tennessee

Oh, and 

12 Penn State (at least until they play somebody good)


 -Alan Harder
  Go blue!
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From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: Miami - FSU
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:28:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.191913.7441@zip.eecs.umich.edu> sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Eric Sybesma) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.164328.1795@beaver.cs.washington.edu> fran@cs.washington.edu (Tak Ming Pang) writes:
>>
>>How good a victory is has nothing to do with the ranking of your
>>opponent. Only the performance of the participating teams counts. 
>>
>How do you judge the performance of the participating teams without
>taking into consideration who they are playing?
>If you rush for 150 yards against a team that is rated as the 
>worst against the run, could you not truly be performing at
>a lesser level than if you run for 120 yds against the team
>that is ranked the best against the run?
>
>I think you are incorrect.
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Eric Sybesma
>University of Michigan
>sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu
>sybesma@maize.engin.umich.edu

Rankings don't particularly mean all that much come game day.  
As upsets can attest, some teams have good days and some have bad days.  
A team may be ranked number whatever against the run, but walk onto 
the field and execute poorly all day--not pick up on plays quickly 
enough, tackle poorly, have a key player get injured, whatever.  
My point is that number 2 can meet number 3 and both of them play like 
crap.  I'm NOT saying that happened with FSU/Miami, but I think 
both teams could have played better.  I saw quite a few mistakes 
made on both sides.  
----
Steve

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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Division I-AA and II polls
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:42:07 GMT


>In article <1992Oct2.170633.10462@tamsun.tamu.edu> mcguire@cs.tamu.edu (Tim McG
>uire) writes:
>>Has anyone else noticed that the polls for Div. I-AA and Div. II are
>>based on the votes of *four* voters?  (The Div. I poll has 60+ voters,
>>by way of comparison.)  It seems to me that it would be rather difficult
>>to get an unbiased poll with so few voters.

Yes, but who needs an unbiased poll (an oxymoron, if you ask me) when you
have a playoff system? 

-rob
From: jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Obnoxious Maryland TD Celebrations
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:42:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.


*but it was annoying (as was not having any plastic studium cups to collect).
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's interesting someone else noticed this.  I have stadium cups from
EVERY game I've ever been to, probably 30 different cups, BUT MAryland
NEVER prints stadium cups.  Any Terripins know why?

*Danny


-- 
Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
Math Graduate Student
N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls
From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Marsee Computer Rankings & Predictions for week of 10/03/92
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:57:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct2.152409.19031@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.055927.8608@newstand.syr.edu>, demarsee@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:
> |>  MARSEE DIV I-A COLLEGE FOOTBALL COMPUTER RANKINGS FOR WEEKEND ENDING 09/26/92
> |>                                                                              
> |>        (Power ratings in parenthesis - ties broken by defensive rating)      
> |>                                                                              
> |>  12. PENN STATE     (778)  
> 
> |>  22. RUTGERS        (691)  
> 
> Kevin H. Klinge


East coast teams have padded their up front schedules with
real falsy teams leaving them impossible to judge,
by a computer or anything else.

Take these 3 games for this Saturday:

      BC @ WVU  
      FSU @ Miami
      PSU @ Rutgers

These six teams are UNDEFEATED (if you subtract the one loss when
two of the teams played each other).  And Darryl's computer kinda
reflects this.

 10. FLORIDA STATE  (800)
 11. BOSTON COLLEGE (799)
 12. PENN STATE     (778)
 17. MIAMI          (731) 
 22. RUTGERS        (691)
 39. WEST VIRGINIA  (603)

However, the opponents of these six teams are WINLESS
(again, subtract the one win when two of the teams played
each other .. and subtract Temple's win against Div1-AA BU.)
And that's probably why, although undefeated, the highest one
of the six barely makes the top 10.

By the time you read this, we'll know who deserves these high ratings
and who doesn't.  Although undefeated, WVU was tied by Miami (Ohio).

Notice how I defend these things when Dear Old Rutgers is in the
top 25.   You should try it too, Kevin.  Good System Darryl.

Undefeated WVU will drop undefeated BC; 28 of 33 BE Contestants
say so.

-- 
"Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@mtfme.att.com)
How ya' gonna learn anything if you  |  GO: Mets (& dear old Rutgers)
always got your head in a book?"     |  I probably should've included smileys.
                -- Foghorn Leghorn   |  **usual disclaimer**
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Attn:  CAL WEENIES!!!
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:45:48 GMT

Please, I need your help.  As some of you may be aware, the most hated team
in the Pac Ten (gernerally speaking, obviously everyone has there specific
rival) comes up to Husky Stadium this week.  You all know what this means.
72,000+ fans will be forced to listen to that damn song about 100 times.
I know that at last year's game, the Cal Weenies came up with lyrics to
the tune, and sang them every time U$C's band played the blasted thing.
If you would be so kind as to post them, I will try and get the Husky
student section to sing along.  If I recall, the words went something like

This is the only song we know,
It's stupid and it's slow,
We really wish you'd go,
...

Please, in the name of good musical taste....save us!

****************************************************************************
Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
Seattle, WA 98195             *
****************************************************************************
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From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Organization: control_centers
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:56:45 GMT

In <Bv9sMJ.Lzr@encore.com>, jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:


>Miami found a way to win, while playing poorly.  Just like all great teams
>do that don't panic and play for a tie.   

How did they "find a way" to win?  Did all the blowhards stand
on the sidelines and blow Arizona's field goal away?  I guess a
little luck never hurts. 

Rob
-- 
There is no substitute for good manners, except, perhaps, fast reflexes.

robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com    GO IRISH, BEARS, BULLS, WHITE SOX, HAWKS, etc.
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From: imes@swallow.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey imes)
Subject: Re: Who is number 1?
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:41:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.153548.6420@news2.cis.umn.edu> milius@proton.med.umn.edu (Bob Milius (BMEC)) writes:
>In article <ASH.92Oct5090713@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:

[..bulk deleted..]

>>Only Michigan had a good game this week in the top five.  Hopefully,
>>several more weeks of football will clear things up a bit.  But I
>>doubt it.
>>
>
>Don't discount Tennesee. If they can beat Alabama who haven't been tested
>yet, they'd have a legit claim to it. They may have to do it twice. I'd 
>like to think otherwise, but I don't think a Michigan has a chance at 
>the MNC if there are any other teams with unblemished records.
>
Also, don't count out PSU.  If they win this weekend againt Miami, chances are
they'll be around #3 next week.  And probably end their independence with a 
national title...that is after OSU comes back from the abyss and beats Michigan
in our last game.... B-}
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From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Re: Rice-Texas    (was: Virginia Football)
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 17:57:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.160921.21851@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.030911.23055@chpc.utexas.edu> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>>p.p.s. Rice is atually a very talented team. They finally played up to
>>their potential last week, and always give Texas fits, and the game is
>>is Houston... Texas doesn't have a chance!
>
>Oh how the might have fallen.  A t-sip resorting to an anti-woof against Rice.
>
>- goober (ever notice how that tower in austin looks like an owl) smith
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^
                                                      only if you like to
                                                        imagine clouds as
                                                        dragons, castles, etc.

Well, _maybe_ that (anti-woofing) is what I was doing. Hypothetical question:
doesn anti-woofing still work if you admit it? Like I said, this is just
hypothetical...

Jay


-- 

*********************************
  John R. Boisseau ("Jay")       
  Department of Astronomy
From: ds4@soc10.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Canes/FSU
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:53:58 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep29.174452.6518@makesys.com>, john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:

|> seriously doubt that he will finish the game for the Noles. My prediction
|> Canes 41 FSU 17 and I feel I'm being benevolent to FSU here.
|> 
|> John T.

	You are being very kind....you are giving FSU 7 more points than I
would :)

-ds4
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From: tafrakes@athena.mit.edu (T. Andy Frakes)
Subject: Ohio State TIX needed
Keywords: tickets
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:49:46 GMT

If anyone has any extra tickets for the Michigan or Illinois
games, pleease send e-mail.  Thanks...

-- 
T. Andy Frakes (tafrakes@athena.mit.edu)
   "Give a difficult task to a lazy person and he'll find an
    easy way to do it." -- perhaps Bartlett knows who said this,
    but I'm too lazy to ask him.
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From: tomd@solbourne.com (Tom Diessner)
Subject: Re: Sorry, Gophers!
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:03:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.142525.5365@netcom.com> stassen@alc.com writes:
>In the first half, a 26-year span from 1936 to 1951, Colorado has exactly
>THREE appearances in the top 20 (of which only one is higher than #16).
>In the second half, a 27-year span from 1952 to 1988, Colorado has seven
>top 20 appearances, but again, only one is higher than #16.
>	This places Colorado light-years behind Oklahoma and Nebraska,
>a good distance behind Missouri, and barely ahead of Kansas (in the first
>half) and Oklahoma State (in the second half).
>
>Below is the table of result for all of the Big Eight teams, with a
>"score" derived (four points for a top five appearance, three for 6-10,
>two for 11-15, and one point for 16-20).  Note that Colorado comes in at
>just about 40% of Minnesota's score (included at the bottom).
>
>	   1936 to 1951 (26 years)		   1952 to 1988 (27 years)
>
>Team	Top5  6-10  11-15 16-20 Pts-1	 Top5  6-10  11-15 16-20 Pts-2	Total
>======= ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	 ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	=====
>Oklahoma 11	1     2     2	  53	  13	 4     2     3	   73	 126
>Nebraska  -	2     1     2	  10	   7	12     5     -	   74	  84
>Missouri  1	2     1     2	  14	   -	 3     2     4	   17	  31
>Colorado  -	1     -     2	   5	   1	 -     -     6	   10	  15
>Okl. St.  -	-     -     1	   1	   -	 1     3     -	    9	  10
>Kansas	  -	-     2     -	   4	   -	 1     -     -	    3	   7
>Iowa St.  -	-     -     -	   0	   -	 -     -     1	    1	   1
>Kan. St.  -	-     -     -	   0	   -	 -     -     -	    0	   0
>======= ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	 ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	=====
>Minn.	  5	3     1     2	  33	   -	 1     1     -	    5	  38
>======= ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	 ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	=====
>
>> Some of the stuff on the net may be unbelievable, [...]
>
>No kidding.
>-- 
>Chris Stassen						stassen@alc.com
>DISCLAIMER:  My employer's account, but not their opinions.

Very Good. I never said Colorado was in the same class as NU or OU during
those years. I just said they usually finsished in the upper division of
the big 8 and had some top 20 rankings during the seventies. I don't really
care about how CU stacks up to Minnesota.
-- 

Thomas Diessner | tomd@solbourne.COM | Solbourne Computer Inc. | Longmont, CO
				"GO BUFFS"
From: SSQLCW@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: TCU, eyes Cotton
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:57:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: vmd.16871EE70.SSQLCW
Organization: C.C.S.O.

Can anyone who follows T.C.U. football closely give me an assessment
of Pat Sullivan's coaching. Since he will one day return to Auburn
after Pat Dye retires, I would like to know what we can expect.
 
I know that T.C.U. is 0-2-1, but how much of that is his fault and
how much is a lack of talent?
 
Curious,
 
Cameron Wesson (War-Eagle!!)
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: TV games Oct 3
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:54:01 GMT

Ken Garnto writes:

>Good thing we are on the right (left vs right, not correct vs wrong) coast.
>Could you imagine trying to get a good party going before 9am?  Gives me
>chills.  :-)...

Oh I don't know - can you imagine a good party ending *before* 9 am?

     - Pat
.
-- 
- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------
From: jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC This Week: Predictions and Such
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:32:47 GMT
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.

(Benjamin H. Cowan) writes:
(RICHARD D CURRIN) writes:
(Robert John Butera) writes:
*
*  Ok... I'll say it...
*
*  "It's probation time again, Y'all!"

You see, this is EXACTLY why Clemson can't fire Hatfield.  He was brought
in to clean house first, then win a few games.  I think this quote is
FAR more appropriate to a school like SYRACUSE these days....

*Benjamin H. Cowan



-- 
Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
Math Graduate Student
N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls
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From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Tickets for Texas-OU game
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:46:54 GMT


A few friends and I want to go to the Texas-OU game in Dallas on Oct. 10,
but we missed the ticket draw here in Austin. We are looking for tickets
(we are all students, so we can use student tickets as well as "regular"
tickets) to the game. Does anybody know of a source of tickets that _won't_
force me to sell my car to obtain them? Any info is greatly appreciated...

Jay Boisseau
-- 

*********************************
  John R. Boisseau ("Jay")       
  Department of Astronomy        
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From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Sorry, Gophers!
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:58:26 GMT


In article <1992Oct2.184816.10276@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>In article <Oct02.144157.31655@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> guest@ulysses.atmos.colostate.edu (Guest) writes:
>>
>>Sorry Njan, but the almighty Colorado doesn't have an atmospheric science
>>department, unlike Colorado State. Get your facts straight, it was staring
>>at you in the reference part of the message.........
>
>Who cares? But, don't you wish they did??? 
>
>Anyway, I heard colostate has a pretty good cow tipping team... so they aren't
>all that bad...
>
>>J. Knowles                                   Go RAMS!
>
>Njan

Now, children, this is getting out of hand!
  
Let's stick to the newsgroup topic:  

                  WHICH SCHOOL HAS THE BEST BAND?
                  -------------------------------
 
    OOOO      
   O    O     =================================== |       Bill Dostalik
   O  U O  U          Oklahoma Sooners            |   dostalik@utdallas.edu
   O  U O  U  National College Football Champions |     Dept. of Physics    
    OOOO   U     1950 1955 1956 1974 1975 1985    | Univ. of Oklahoma @ Dallas
      U    U  =================================== | 
       UUUU                                       |   "Oh, yeah?"  "Yeah."
From: bentow@cis.rand.org (Stan Bentow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:07:36 GMT
Reply-To: bentow@cis.rand.org (Stan Bentow)
Distribution: usa
Organization: RAND, Santa Monica CA

In article <92280.000747KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick) writes:

>No.  Remember, the University of Spoiled Children think they ARE the universe.
>                                                  =====

No, we KNOW we are :).
       ====
>
>------------
>Kurt Ludwick
>------------

Stan
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!
Keywords: eight men on the line
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:40:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

chyang@engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) wrote:
}	
}	Prove it!  
}
}	I have not seen or heard about a team that blitzs on every down.
}and I certainly have not seen a team from Florida or anywhere else that
}employs that scheme before 1990. 

South Carolina, 1985-1989.

And I'm sure they didn't invent it either.

Why so worked up over this, anyway?  Who invented something is no
more important than who perfected it or who made it work in practice.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

    "I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!"       
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