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From: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ST Software for sale
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:42:09 GMT
Reply-To: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Internal Revenue Service, Washington, DC



ST Software for sale (all items come with original disks and docs):

The Games '92, Espana         20
Daily Double Horseracing       5
Vampire's Empire               5
C.O.L.R. Object Editor         3
Chuck Rock                    12
RBI Baseball 2                11
Steve McQueen Westphaser      13
Knight Force (*NOT* STe)       5
Targhan                       10
California Games              13
Hard Drivin'                  12
Black Lamp                     8
Blockbuster                   10
Time Bandit                   10
Flood                         12
Blood Money                   12
The Addams Family             15
Another World                 15

Please add $1 per order to help cover shipping.

Marshall Lake
POB 7332
Washington, DC  20044-7332
Tel 703-533-2132  (evenings)
    202-927-2928  (daytime, weekdays)
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Internet  mlake@irscscm.UUCP
CIS  73717,3174
GEnie  MLAKE

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Wolfgang Ley)
Subject: Re: Comparing ASCII files
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU CLAUSTHAL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:23:30 GMT

In article <By0syG.I3G@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:
 
>
>I need to be able to compare 2 ASCII files.
>
>The output should be switchable between matching lines and differing lines.
>Also, it would be nice, but not necessary, to have the program ignore
>white-space before and after text.
>
>Any ideas?
 
Hello!
 
Get a version of 'diff'... this should do the job.
Try anonymous-FTP to ftp.tu-clausthal.de (139.174.1.3) and get
  /pub/atari/unixlike/diff30b.lzh
 
Bye,
  Wolfgang.
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From: marshall@cs.uq.oz.au (Marshall Harris (G.M.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Technical wordprocessors for ST
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:43:40 GMT
Reply-To: marshall@cs.uq.oz.au


>madmal@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (Malachy Devlin - SPD) writes:

>>Can anyone recommend a good technical word processor for the ST. ie. one that
>>would allow me to enter (large messy) equations (easily)? and also have the
>>ability to generate table of contents, tables etc or am I asking to much?
I agree with everything said about LaTeX, and suggest that you get CSTeX
from a.a. It is self-installing, so that even a dummy like me can set it up.
It runs easily from the GEM desktop, so you don't even need
Gulam/Mint/Okami/Mupfel.... And you can interface it to your favourite text
editor, and have other useful programs available instantly from the menu
bar. Great stuff!

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From: paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Paul Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: More Falcon news...
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:20:34 GMT
Reply-To: paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona

In article 86@uoft02.utoledo.edu, jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
> undermind!Steve_Johnson@overmind.mind.org writes:
> > The Falcon030's 68030 has a 24-bit address/16-bit data bus.  It 
> > get's a little confusing, though, because the COMBEL (the system 
> > controller) has a 32-bit bus to RAM and to the VIDEL (the video 
> > controller).  The machine on the whole, though, isn't a 'TRUE' 32-
> > bit machine (kinda like the Mac LC II/Performa 400).  The PDS 
> > (processor-direct slot) is also 24-bit address/16-bit data.  There 
> > is some hope, though, that a third party will be able to 'fix' this 
> > (there will, most definitely, be a 32-bit FAST RAM expansion for 
> > the Falcon030 that will allow more RAM, at least, from what I've 
> > heard). 
> 
> this is -really- strange. i was under the impression that all 68k
> processors after the '020 were 32 bit all the way 'round. can someone
> post a 'family tree' of the 68k series & what is what? going to
> 24/16 for a 32 bit processor sounds like something Intel would do,
> not Motorola.
> 
> i realize that Motorola doesn't have a lot to do with the bus design,
> but it seems to me that trying to fit a 32 bit external processor
> on a 24/16 bus would be a lot more hairy than just making it 32 bits
> in the first place.
> 
> jason
> 
Why is this so strang?  In a TT, the 68030 is running at 32 MHz, and
TT-RAM is 32-bit, 32 MHz.  But everything else--ST-RAM, DMA, vidio--
is all at 16-bit, 16 MHz.  And I get about 4x the speed with only ST-
RAM, running the same program (no 68030 or 68882 commands).

-Paul Harris                       @ @ 
paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu      \___/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: mwtilden@math.uwaterloo.ca (Mark W. Tilden)
Subject: Grav 2 has an internal CRC error.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:47:05 GMT


UNARC takes it apart, but the game just hangs when you run it.
Pity, as it looks like a good one.

Is all.


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From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC screen Saver
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:25:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Nov17.152525.11186
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article 1ea6u6INNoe0@golem.wcc.govt.nz, sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz () writes:
>
>One day I will get a ???,  Acorn A5000, ? or PC, or A1200 , tell me chaps where
>should I go. ..???   NO RUDE REMARKS PLEASE...:-)...
>

Roger, I recently went through the painful process of buying a new 486 and have
learned a few lessons the hard way.  Send email if you really want to discuss it.

BTW, I _still_ have the Atari machines, of course.  (and the Mac too).  :)

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From: timg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tim Gallivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Ghostscript & 8-bit color: another attempt.
Date: 22 Nov 92 08:07:18 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Center for Relativity

Adventurous Ghostscript users:

I have fixed a second bug in the 8-bit color part of the Ghostscript
(2.52 beta) screen driver. There was a memory allocation error which
may have been causing the crashes after displaying 8-bit images
(and other strange behavior).

If you have the stomach for another download, an updated beta
distribution and an updated executable are available from
lifshitz.ph.utexas.edu in pub/atari/ghostscript/beta. Please let me
know if it finally works, or if it doesn't :-(.

Also, I have heard nothing about he G3 fax driver. Has anyone tried it?

Tim Gallivan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cabp09@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("David McNicol")
Subject: g++ : Any 1 Meg versions ??????
Organization: University of Strathclyde
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:22:56 GMT

Erm ... anybody know of ANY way to get G++ running on a 1 meg ST ??

I have plenty of HD space ...... just no memory ( and no money, so
pleeze don't tell me to upgrade :]  )

Dave. ( Executing in Mellow-32bit mode )

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From: mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us (Mark Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari seen in Compuke! magazine
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:34:16 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington

kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:
> I thought I'd never see the day when Compute! (er... Compuke!) magazine gave
> any non-PC or non-Mac the time of day.  The end must be near...

  Geez, I remember the days when Compute! was a REAL computer magazine, 
with type-in program listings, inlcluding Atari ST.  Of course, when they 
removed the type-in programs, I cancelled my subscription and got my 
money back...  (I learned a fair bit about ST programming from those 
listings.  I don't think I ever used one as they presented it, but it 
taught me a lot...)
 
  <sigh>  The only magazine left that gives type-in listings is Dr.Dobbs. 
Kinda sad, really.  How are new computer owners supposed to learn how to 
program now?  (yes, I learned programming from Antic...  that probably 
explains a few things about my code...)
 
 - Mark Hughes (Caves of Steel 509-624-2078)  mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sjg@phwoof.ph.kcl.ac.uk (Simon Gornall)
Subject:  g++ / MiNT distribution
Organization: King's College London Image Processing Group
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:16:37 GMT
X-Posted-From: dogmatix.ph.kcl.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


> When the MiNT/GNU C/shell/utility distribution kit is finally uploaded onto
> atari.archive.umich.edu (it's on hold at the moment, Simon, hint hint...), you
> shouldn't have quite as much of a hassle using (or installing) GNU C.

Yes, I know it's late. Sorry people, I've been descended on by a mad supervisor
who wanted to know where I've been for the last 4 days :-)

I'll get it done RSN (honest). There's a problem which manifests itself in the
minixfs part of the setup program. I minit the drive, make a large directory tree
and then MiNT invalidates the drive (!) Consequently, nothing more may be copied
to that drive. Ever. I think I sorted this out last time by insisting on a reset
halfway through the install procedure, so I'll try that. Icidentally, I'm using
the ICD software, it could possibly be that it doesn't expect a media-change on
the hard disk...

A few details, though, for those who hunger... There will be 3 'operations' 
split over 2 programs. There is a Setup program, which you will only have to run
once, hopefully, which (optionally) minit's a drive and then sets up a dir tree
a la un*x, puts MiNT in your auto folder (actually it mucks around quite a lot
in the auto folder, and with accessories etc. - unavoidable I'm afraid), and
copies toswin stuff onto C:\

Secondly, there is a Install program, which lets you install software in related
subsets. You *can* install parts of a subset if you want, but in future I'll be
assuming that if any of a subset is installed, all of it is. This program is
completely self-contained, and will be used for patches/updates as well as the
initial install.

Thirdly, the Install program will let you run shell scripts for /bin/sh. This is
how I intend to do do commands like chmod/chown etc. Any subset disk with a file
called 'preXXX.sh' must be run before installing subset XXX, and any file
'postXXX.sh' must be run after installing subset XXX.

All of this is 'point-and-click', so hopefully there won't be too many problems
with actually doing it. There's online ""help"" <--- (heavily quoted)  which gives
a brief description of what is in each subset.

I'm currently up to 10 disks including one for the setup/install programs. This
should be taken with a pinch of salt. Due to the 'subset' nature of this new
distribution, I can't pack them as well as I used to be able to...


Simon.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: annius@eri.research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: 1MB STE SIMMS: - are they 70ns?
Reply-To: A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl
Organization: PTT Research
Distribution: eunet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:01:39 GMT

lynbech@daimi.aau.dk (Christian Lynbech) writes:

>There is not cathes to that about 9-bit SIMM's ? They can just be plugged in,
>or must one disable the 9 bit explicitly ?


I bought my SIMMs and they work.  My configuration is:

	bank 1		2x1 meg		80ns	8 bits (8x1mbit)
	bank 2		2x1 meg		70ns	9 bits (3x3mbit)

conclusion: any combination of anything will work.  The 9 bit chips are cheaper
than the 8 bits anyway.  Still it feels a bit strange to have 256K in your
computer that's just there for nothing (or for IBM, in a way, but what's the
difference).

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hasse@solace.hsh.se (Hans Holmberg)
Subject: Re: More Falcon news...
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:31:54 MET

In <1992Nov20.122035.4010@arizona.edu> paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Paul Harris) writes:

>In article 86@uoft02.utoledo.edu, jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
>> undermind!Steve_Johnson@overmind.mind.org writes:
>> > The Falcon030's 68030 has a 24-bit address/16-bit data bus.  It 
>> > get's a little confusing, though, because the COMBEL (the system 
>> > controller) has a 32-bit bus to RAM and to the VIDEL (the video 
>> > controller).  The machine on the whole, though, isn't a 'TRUE' 32-
>> > bit machine (kinda like the Mac LC II/Performa 400).  The PDS 
>> > (processor-direct slot) is also 24-bit address/16-bit data.  There 
>> > is some hope, though, that a third party will be able to 'fix' this 
>> > (there will, most definitely, be a 32-bit FAST RAM expansion for 
>> > the Falcon030 that will allow more RAM, at least, from what I've 
>> > heard). 
>> 
>> this is -really- strange. i was under the impression that all 68k
>> processors after the '020 were 32 bit all the way 'round. can someone
>> post a 'family tree' of the 68k series & what is what? going to
>> 24/16 for a 32 bit processor sounds like something Intel would do,
>> not Motorola.
>> 
>> i realize that Motorola doesn't have a lot to do with the bus design,
>> but it seems to me that trying to fit a 32 bit external processor
>> on a 24/16 bus would be a lot more hairy than just making it 32 bits
>> in the first place.
>> 
>> jason
>> 
>Why is this so strang?  In a TT, the 68030 is running at 32 MHz, and
>TT-RAM is 32-bit, 32 MHz.  But everything else--ST-RAM, DMA, vidio--
>is all at 16-bit, 16 MHz.  And I get about 4x the speed with only ST-
>RAM, running the same program (no 68030 or 68882 commands).

That is totally wrong! The videomemory on a TT is 64 bits wide according
to the docs I read. It multiplex that data to 32 bits for the 68030.
Allthough the videobus only uses 16MHz as you said.

>-Paul Harris                       @ @ 
>paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu      \___/

Hasse
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From: paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Paul Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TT and llamatron
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:27:53 GMT
Reply-To: paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona

In article 722165666@oxygen.sys.uea.ac.uk, sms@sys.uea.ac.uk (Steve Sowerby) writes:
> gordonf@monashee.sfu.ca (Gordon Farrell) writes:
> 
> >In article <bnell.722014781@protege> bnell@siemens.com. (Bill Nell) writes:
> >>  I was under the impression that llamatron worked on TT's (as long as you
> >>had some sort of 24-bit MMU program).  I've downloaded the llamatron on a.a
> >[...]
> >>really work on the TT or not?  And if it does, then what is wrong with my
> >>copy or (god forbid :-) my TT?
> 
> >Well, you can stop worrying about your TT.  It craps out on mine, too, even
> >with the pmmu2 24-bit programme from a.a.  Sounds like false advertising
> >to me! :-(
> 
> 
> That's weird...  I'm sure my copy of 'Llamatron' works fine on my TT with

[stuff deleted]
> 
> I wonder does everybody who can't get Llamatron working have TOS 3.06  (I've
> got 3.05)
> 

I'v got 3.05 and I've never been able to get it to work (from a.a.).

> 
> -Steve Sowerby  (sms@sys.uea.ac.uk)

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-Paul Harris                       @ @ 
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From: daryl@piano.adept.ih.att.com (55000-Daryl Monge(ih1439)392)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Macintosh ST Connection (Actually MacSee)
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:09:55 GMT
Organization: 5ESS(TM)-US Release Management
In-reply-to: ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu's message of 21 Nov 92 22:53:01 GMT


   Current Notes (November 1992) has info about Macintosh ST
   Connection, a program sold by CompuSeller West.  Does anybody
   have this program?  How is it?

It works.  I think the human interface is real tacky.  It uses
a custom scrolling text region and it does not function like a
file selector dialog.  Also, you cannot select groups of files
to transfer (no multiple selections.)

Again, it does work.  Since it is version 1, I hope to see
improvements soon.

Daryl Monge			AT&T Bell Labs
EMAIL: daryl@adept.att.com	VOICE: 708-713-4696
GEnie: D.MONGE
PAPER: Rm 2A-448   P.O. Box 3050, Naperville, Il 60566
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Wanted: Site with GEMVIEW 2.1
Date: 19 Nov 92 05:17:49 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Nov18.032906.19159@u.washington.edu> dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward) writes:
>
>I ftp'ed Gemview 2.01, and it looks incredible.  But one major thing
>doesn't work on it that did on the earlier version (1.11) that I have;
>namely, the mouse scrolling when the right button is pressed.  It just
>locks the machine up.  I have a TT with TOS 3.05.  I tried it in all
>resolutions with all combinations of auto programs.
>
>Anyone else have this problem, or even better, a solution?

Yeah, I have seen this problem too and would be interested in finding out what
the solution is.




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Wolfgang Ley)
Subject: Re: MGIF 4.0 uploaded to atari.archive
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU CLAUSTHAL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:40:50 GMT

In article <olk.721921925@rzdspc1>
olk@rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Marcus Olk) writes:
 
>d8klojo@dtek.chalmers.se (Johan Klockars) writes:
>
>>The binaries and sources for the new and MUCH faster version of MGIF have now
>>been uploaded to atari.archive.
>
>Did anybody copy these files to a german ftp-Server, already?
>
 
...of course. Try ftp.tu-clausthal.de (139.174.1.3) from
/pub/atari/graphics/viewer
 
Bye,
  Wolfgang.
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From: sytang@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Shoou-yu tang)
Subject: For Sale 80MB portable hard drive system
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:32:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

 For Sale: 80MB (Quantum Pro 80S) portable hard drive system

 It's housed in a 5"x3"x12" metal shoebox with power supply and fan, the box has
a handle on the back for carrying around. ICD host adaptor with clock build-in.
The drive is a Quantum PRO80S 3.5" drive same as used in some Mac. Drive is
about 2years old with light use (it's backup system in case my main drive went
bad or when changing the main system set-up).
 ICD software (boot v5.x) included, DMA cable also included.
 Asking : $275
 If interested, please reply thru Email to sytang@lamar.colostate.edu
 Reason to sell: Upgrading the system and no longer need this system.

Thank you.
Tang
sytang@lamar.colostate.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love)
Subject: Empire Deluxe (was Re: Looking for software)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:46:31 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

automan@stein.u.washington.edu (Roger McGhee) writes:
{ Text about '...looking for ... Empire...' was deleted to save space. }

Does anybody know if Interstel will be releasing Empire Deluxe for ST/STe/
Falcon machines?

Also, does anybody know what the "Deluxe" version is supposed to have
included over Empire?  Improved modem support would be great.

However, I would prefer more terrain and unit types.  Like a fighter/bomber
that could carry paratroopers over cities.  And light tanks that could move
two spaces but lack the firepower of the "infantry" (you know, the ones
that look like tanks :).

At one time, there was something similar to the above on the Unix boxes
here at the U. of Oklahoma.  I can't remember what its name was.  Anyone?

Oh yeah, I nearly forgot... I would like to see better computer strategists
and not the cheaters that they are now.  They are WAY too easy to beat (even
on "Expert" setting with two computer opponents)!

                                                  Later,
                                                  Kenneth Love

PS: I'd hate to have to buy the game for my mother's Pissy Dog machine, but
I will if I can't get it for the ST.
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