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From: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: cats at the humane
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:50:20 EST
Reply-To: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

CS>I'm sure many ppl will have opinions on this subject, but I personally
CS>purchased one of the humane society cats and wouldn't trade her for

In recent years, we've been blessed with three furry buddies.  One came
from a pet store (he's snoozing somewhere -- prob'ly with my wife), 
another came from the local animal shelter (he's snoozing on the shelf
about the computer), and the third came from a vet (she died of heart
problems at age three).

All three were/are very good friends (PS all "run-of-the-mill" tabbies)
with us and each other.  Based on our guys, we'd go back to the animal
control due to the steady availability and cheap price (after rebates,
ours cost $3).  Of course, neighbourhood "free" kitties might be just
as good, but I like to think that cats at the animal shelter have 
probably received some knowledgable attention that might recognize a
potential problem....steve (with help from Joey's snores -- he's the
one from the animal control)
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From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:11:23 GMT

hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah) writes:
: 
: As long as we're naming cat behaviors, how about alternate names for
: the insane running around that has been called "the crazies"?  If
: there are 2 or more cats involved, we refer to it as "cat races".
: Therefore, by extension, for one cat, it's "time trials"---preparing
: for future cat races.  If there is mock prey involved, it's "chasing
: windmills" (in honor of Don Quixote's imaginary foes).
: 
My ex named that behavior "kittyanapolis." (as in Indianapolis, as in
Indianapolis 500).


Kathy
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Some advice needed - First Post
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:17:18 GMT
Organization: Who, me? You should see my desk!

In article <42430024@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce) writes:
>
>[trying to prevent cat-on-counter syndrome]
>
Well, cats hate loud noises and being startled, so place some empty 
aluminum soda cans along the edge of the counter, so when kitty jumps 
up onto the counter, s/he'll knock them over. Hopefully this will teach
them that countertops are off limits. Or try laying aluminum foil on the
counter. Cats don't like to walk on it (though I'm sure that there's
some cat out there that won't mind!).

Steve
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From: cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies)
Subject: Re: It's Raining Out! (was RE: baths)
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Keywords: wet raining cat fur damp sodden
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 03:07:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.004550.27095@chpc.utexas.edu> jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug11.231417.26387@chpc.utexas.edu>
>jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg) [I] writes [wrote]:
>> [ The late Mortina (I) ]
>> ... objected *very* strongly to getting wet (she would swat me if
>>it even started to rain outside, this presumably being my fault),
>
>In article <1992Aug12.173324.13273@ncar.ucar.edu>
>vicki@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer) writes [replied]:
>>Oh, yes.  Don't you just love the looks on those little faces when you
>>open the door to let them out and they stick a paw outside, only to
>>discover that IT'S RAINING (or, worse indignity, SNOWING!).  They look
>>at the outside, look at you, and almost implore you to make it stop!

From Robert A. Heinlein.  The door into summer. p.1 ... The drawback was
that the place had eleven doors to the outside.

Twelve, if you counted Pete's door. I always tried to arrange a door of his own for Pete -- in this case a board fitted into a window in an unused bedroom 
and in which I had cut a cat strainer just wide enough for Pete's whiskers.  
I have spent too much of my life opening doors for cats -- I once calculated
 that, since the dawn of civilization, nine hundred and seventy-eight 
man-centuries have been used up that way.  I could show you figures.

Pete usually used his own door except when he could bully me into opening 
a people door for him, which he preferred.  But he would not use his door 
when there was snow on the ground.

While still a kitten all fluff and buzzes, Pete had worked out a simple 
philosophy.  I was in charge of quarters, rations, and weather; he was 
in charge of everything else.

But he held me especially responsible for weather.  Connecticut winters 
are good only for Christmas cards; regularly that winter Pete would 
check his own door, refuse to go out it because of that unpleasant white 
stuff beyond it (he was no fool) the badger me to open a people door. 

He had a fixed conviction that at least one of them must lead to summer
 weather.  Each time this meant that I had to go around with him to each 
of eleven doors, hold it open while he satisfied himself that it was winter
 out that way, too, then go on to the next door, while his criticisms of 
my mismanagement grew more bitter with each disappointment....

____________

--

Since moral has not improved, the beatings will continue.

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From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Terminal cuteness
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:19:19 GMT
Organization: NCAR/UCAR

Though he's quite sociable, Elvie isn't much of a lap fungus, normally.
But yesterday it rained all day;  I came home from work, picked up the
mail at the end of the road, and stopped into my husband's office (a
small outbuilding behind our house) to give him his business mail.
There he was, sitting at his workstation, a little bundle of fur 
curled up in his lap.  Awwwwwww.

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From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Javex Bleach
Keywords: Catnip, intoxication, bleach
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:09:23 GMT

In article <1992Jun22.171119.16443@ccu.umanitoba.ca>,
umehn@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Paula M. Ehn) writes:
> Hi Everyone!
> What really set her off though was Javex Bleach.  If I cleanned 
> the sink with it, as soon as she caught a whiff of it ... zoom
> ... in the sink rolling around with the happiest experssion
> I've ever seem on a cat.  It didn't matter if there was water or
> dishes in the sink.  She didn't care.  Once I tried to whiten
> a pair of my white socks with Javex.  The next time I wore
> them, Tam was right there chomping on my toes.  
> Has anyone else had a similar experience?
> 

  Many years ago, I had a cat that acted the same way about
  Comet cleanser.  If I used Comet to clean the sink or the
  bathtup, she would go nuts.  She too would roll around in
  the bathtub/sink and she wouldn't leave my hands alone.

  My current cat has no reaction to catnip. I haven't used
  Comet in a long time, so I don't know how he'd react to it.

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From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: starting to win a little
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:26:23 GMT

 martin@mala.bc.ca writes:
> the shelters in our area are starting to show a very real and good
> effect from all the spay and neuter programs being run, so
> BE ENCOURAGED!!!

Yes!  Neutering programs are beginning to pay off!

Ten years ago the Oakland shelter euthanized hundreds of cats a week.
Today it's significantly down from that.  What happened?  The Oakland
SPCA's spay/neuter program.  It didn't happen overnight, in fact it
took years.  And it's not completed yet, it won't be complete until
all pets are wanted.  But it is WORKING!  It is GETTING BETTER!!

In Alameda, for just a few days in February, every animal available
for adoption had been adopted.  Every cat.  Every dog.  Everything.
Within the memory of the staff (7 years) this had never happened
before.  We just stared at each other and smiled.  We felt like we got
a glimpse of what heaven will be like.  Every pet wanted.  And we knew
this could never have happened without public awareness and
participation in getting pets neutered.

This could be the way it is at every shelter, every day.  "Get to the
shelter early to adopt a cat, they go quick!"  Every pet wanted.  The
shelter as a shelter, a place where pets can stay between owners.  But
although progress has been achieved, it has been slow.  Many places on
the continent have yet to make a dent in the problem. You can help:

> support those spay neuter programs that your local shelters are
> running however you can, with $$$ for the programs, by getting your
> animals fixed and not contributing to the problem, by educating other
> folks around you.  We can put an end to all the suffering of stray
> animals and the millions of euthanizations across this continent.

-- Jon
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From: stan@etgn05.rtp.dg.com (Stan Yen)
Subject: Aluminum foil fails at foiling felines from fiddling with foliage
Summary: wasRe: Some advice needed - First Post
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:43:52 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Westboro, MA.

Steve Snyder writes:
>... bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce) writes:
>>
>>[trying to prevent cat-on-counter syndrome]
>>
> [...]
>them that countertops are off limits. Or try laying aluminum foil on the
>counter. Cats don't like to walk on it (though I'm sure that there's
>some cat out there that won't mind!).

re: using aluminum foil to prevent cats from getting into/onto things...

We had a problem with the kitties digging into a few of our plants which
sit on a (1') wide window sill which stretches along most of one wall in
our living room.  (a very nice place for the cats to hang out, actually...
buncha posers. :)  So I tried putting Al foil in the pots, assuming they
wouldn't want to stick their paws on the "icky metal stuff."  At least,
that's what I thought.  Instead, it was more like "Cool!  We can make
our own foil toys!"  And ended up having soil *and* foil all over the
apartment.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Roundworm tablets
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:56:47 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Dave Budd inquires:
> In the 'how to administer these pills' leaflet, what fool included the 
> advice that they might go down easier if smeared with margarine???????
> It's a damn good way of getting a cat covered in marg.......
> 
> What's the record for the number of times a roundworm tablet has been spat 
> out after you thought it had gone down?

Uh, about 130 jillion... ;-)   Try holding the cat's head up (nose toward
ceiling, but don't clamp the muzzle shut.  Mine at least seem to need 
a little slack to swallow.

Actually, I have no trouble at all with cats and pills.  It's the
liquids that I have fun with.  One particularly vile pink antibiotic
suspension resulted in a pink kitchen (was brown and white) and *5* 
pink cats...    And when the antibiotic froth dried, I had punk cats...

Kay 

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From: michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet)
Subject: Re: Advice on Allergies
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 14:55:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.125716.4507@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) writes:
>There is a breed of cat that is hairless (Devon Rex?). Would this be
>more acceptable to someone with asthma? 
>
>


Not usually, as allergies are usually caused by dander and something
in the saliva.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rwl@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ray Lubinsky)
Subject: Re: Question: Kitty pawing around floor around other cat's dish.
Reply-To: rwl@server.cs.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:51:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.161517.18808@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>, ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) writes:
:
> When my kitties do this, I've been able to trick them by simply
> picking up their bowl, pretending to put more food in, stir it
> a little to make it sound like I'm adding more, and then putting
> the bowl back on the floor. Usually works, though I wonder if
> they really believe I'm adding more.


With our female, Mimi, I've found that what she really cares about is
that the food is of a certain depth in the bowl.  I routinely tilt the
bowl, put the new stuff on one side and then "toss" the crunchies so
that the older food goes on top.  She never cares as long as there's
plenty of food in there.


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From: lcornell@milton.u.washington.edu (Linda Cornell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:46:51 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I got my 'Tilly Cat (Chantilly) at the Humane Society in Everett.  Not
only do they not vaccinate them for leukemia...they didn't even test for
it.  After paying my money ($40 with a $15 rebate for spaying), and a vet
bill, I found out she was leukemia positive...which was really frustrating
for me since I had already taken her home, and couldn't bear to take her
back to a certain death.  Since I already have a leukemia cat, I decided to
keep her, as-is.  

I'm glad I kept her, it has been 2.5 years, and she has been such a
sweetie....but the bottom line was they should have checked....

Hope this helps too!

Linda
From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Introducing...
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:54:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.4887
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

Hello fellow netters,

I absolutely could not resist the urge, after catching up on some 200
articles here in rec.pets.cats I had missed during my move, to introduce
you all to my new companion, only acquired today, and looking a little
groggy from his recent neutering: Hemingway.

He's an absolutely adorable dark grey kitten with gold and green eyes that
I brought home from the Humane Society just today, and I'm whipped.  I'm
certain more cute stories are to come.  In the meantime, just had to get
that out of my system, but now that he looks as though he might compete
with the keyboard for the attention of my hands (I can recognize that
conniving gleam in his little eyes already) I will close with a little
sigh of contentment that can only mean, once again, that a cat is running
my life.

Sheryl and Hemingway, the contemplative kitten
From: deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov (Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Scratching that litter 'til the cows come home...
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:35:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: neptune.7140801005612
Distribution: usa
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois

In article <1992Aug15.041941.7929@adobe.com> dauphin@adobe.com (Kimberly Dauphin) writes:
>Sigh.  My SO's cat, Fezzik, scratches in the litter box
>for (*literally*) hours.  It doesn't matter if it's slightly
>dirty or brand-spanking new litter.  He scratches and scratches
>and scratches.
>
>He scratches the litter.  He scratches the box.  He scratches the 
>floor.  He scratches the wall.  He scratches my bike tire next
>to the box.  He scratches the ironing board.  He scratches the
>pooper-scooper.  He scratches the closet door...........
>
>I hate to punish him for doing something he obviously thinks
>is simply a conscientious effort.  But how can I get him to
>stop after a few scratches?
>
>Any advice? Thanks in advance.
>
Have you tried a scratching post?  We used to have one covered in carpet, and
it doesn't make as much noise (or mess!) as the walls and litter box.
Also, is he de-clawed?  (ours was in front; strictly indoor cat.)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ault@engin.umich.edu (Matthew Ault)
Subject: Re: My litter box keeps getting tipped over, even when clean.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 14:58:50 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <lexier.713586948@sfu.ca> lexier@fraser.sfu.ca (Lyle Lexier) writes:
>
>     Why does my cat always like to tip over my litter box for?

Yeah, he should be tipping over his *own* litter box! :^)

It's probably just because he likes to make a mess.  My little darlings don't
tip over the litter box, but they do love to tip over every available trash
basket they can find.  Lots of wonderful play toys contained within!  And it
isn't as if we don't provide them with enough regular toys...

I feel kind of silly keeping my trash baskets on a shelf, but it beats finding
wadded up pieces of paper (or worse) strewn over the apartment every morning.

-matt

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From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Subject: bathing cats
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Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Distribution:  world
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:27:31 GMT


My allergist says my problem is my cats.  My problem was here 2 years 
before cats showed up on my testing, so I beg to differ.  But, since
I'm desperate, I figured I'd try bathing my cats to see if it helps.
The bath didn't go well.  We had to compromise with a socking from
a dripping was cloth.  I wondered if anyone had any helpful hints
to get cats to not be so afraid.





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From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:13:55 GMT

john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko) writes:
: In article <HANNAH.92Aug19132640@pomponio.ai.sri.com> hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah) writes:
: >
: >As long as we're naming cat behaviors, how about alternate names for
: >the insane running around that has been called "the crazies"?
: 
: I always called it "the rips."  Sometimes Louie vocalizes while he's tearing
: up and down the stairs.  He utters this weird, guttural, growl/yowl.  The first
: time my SO heard it, she turned to me and said, "Let's get out of here before
: he kills us."  I think she was kidding...
: 
When my gentle, sweet, cheerful Tris does this, I call her the "cat out of hell."
Makes you think you might need an exorcist, doesn't it?
From: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: it's raining out!
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:50:21 EST
Reply-To: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

JT> (kitty turns out to be hardly damp, probably due
JT> to having spent the last several hours under an
JT> overturned boat or another building with open
JT> cement block footings)

This reminds me of Banjo at the cottage.  He loves to be outside in the 
rain.  Of course, he carefully stays out of the rain by staying under the 
eaves before he gets under the cottage.  He'll snooze there, or watch
the rain (hoping for critters, I suspect)....steve
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