From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Foucault, Faggotry, Fun Times to Come...
Date: 20 Jan 93 21:14:04 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <C0vpuG.EB3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
> In article <13927@optilink.COM>, cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) says most sayishly:
# #What are you talking about?  I live in a society where homosexuality is
# #not only legal, but strongly encouraged by the news and entertainment
#                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
# I'm not a homophobe, but this statement is kind of scary.  Why should
# they encourage that, or ANYTHING?  Why should they encourage
# heterosexuality, OR heterosexuality?  Why don't they let us think for
# ourselves?

An excellent question.  I merely state what is, not what I want.

# #media, where a violent attack on a homosexual is regarded as a serious
# #crime
# 
# How fucking lame.  Ok, so if I attack a homosexual, it's a serious
# crime, but if I attack just a "normal" person, it's not serious?  This
# is on the SAME LEVEL AS RACISM.  

Sure is.

# , while the same attack on the same man because of his wallet is
# #regarded as an unserious crime.
# 
# As I said, how fucking lame.  Sure, sure, our society is striving for
# equality, and yet "your" society SUCKS because of all these differences.

Not MY society.  It's a society run by liberals.

# "Oh, Mr. X murdered some man?  40 years in jail, then--what?  He
# murdered a homosexual?  Well, give him a life sentence, then!"

Don't kid yourself.  Life sentences for murder in California are
rare, no matter who the victim is.

# #Our society is spending NO energy trying to kill homosexuals.  There are
# #some violent, weird, crazy people out there who are trying to do that,
# #but we consider that a serious crime -- more serious than if they were
# #doing the same thing to straight people.
# 
# You keep showing your low intelligence by acting like a fucking racist
# and separating people up.  Tell me, were you one of those loser

I am only describing what is, not what should be.

# protestors marching outside of the first showing of "Basic Instinct?"
# Fuck you.

Not in the least.

# #Not in the least.  I support repeal of all sodomy laws, and equal
# #treatment by the government in employment of homosexuals.
# 
# Do I smell an inconsistency?  EQUAL TREATMENT?  Read your earlier shit,
# I see no equality.  White man kills white man, 40 years.  White man
# kills black man, 60 years.  White man kills homosexual man, 200 years.
# EQUAL MY ASS.
# 
# #Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
# 
# Just in general: FUCK YOU.  Our society will get NOWHERE with people
# like you advocating such shit.
# 
#     // Amiga 3000   ___ \ Sam Hulick: shulick@indiana.edu (NeXTmail OK!)

This guy is without a clue.

-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
"When freedom destroys order, order will destroy freedom." -- Eric Hoffer
Not a goal, just a statement of reality.
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