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From: HANK@BARILVM.BITNET (Hank Nussbacher)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Israeli stocks
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:57:11 GMT
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel

>Can anyone post a list of the Israeli companies who trade stock
>on the New York Stock Exchange?

In descending size order:

Scitex          $1.6b
ECI Telecom     $870m
Teva            $830m
Elbit           $670m
Elscint         $430m
Tadiran         $380m
Lannet          $240m
Elron           $290m
Interphram      $200m
BTG (BioTechnology General)
Hadera Paper
Sapiens
IIS
Opratech
Teldata
Hachshrat HaYishuv
Fibronics
Magic
Rada
Edusoft

These are the ones I know about.  Israeli stocks have been doing
quite well over the past 3 years on the American exchanges.  Last
year they averaged about 60% increase.  This year it only up about
25%.  Some general comments about computer stocks:

-ECI Telecom: They make equipment for packing more phone calls over
copper lines.  Germany has been buying lots of their equipment to
upgrade East German infrastructure.

- IIS: terminal makers.  Owns Harris- Lee Data in USA.

- Lannet:  they make the Multinet hub which is competition to
Cabletron, Synoptics and Chipcom.  I didn't expect them to do well
when they floated their shares a year ago at 12.  They hit 32 this
year and have cooled down to 23.  Not bad for a new company.

- Teldata: is another new one.  They make equipment to maximize use
of copper phone lines like putting 4 phone circuits on a single twisted
pair.  The owner of Lannet (Zisapple of Bynat Group) bought into
Teldata a week before they floated their shares.  Teldata hasn't
moved much - 5% this year but has potential for the next 12 months.

- Magic: PC and Vax software.  Program generation software.  Their
software has won many speed awards in international competition
(design time for 2-3 programmers).  Very popular in Europe and Far
East - the parent company - Mashoov on Israeli stock market created
Magic Software on NYSE and opened at 8.5 last year and is now up to
10.  Has good potential for this year also.

- Opratech: They make printed circuit boards or design of equipment
that makes printed circuit boards.  Their only major competitor is
Orbot - also an Isareli company and they are in the process of a
merger.  There are rumors that the SCC will not allow the merger to
go through due to monopoly of trade laws but I have sources that
tell me that this will be a non issue and that the merger is taking
place.

- Sapiens: is also a new company.  They make mainframe database
software in Rehovot (Kiryat Weizmann).  That is why IBM had to
settle for a name like DB/2.  Sapiens had the trademark for DB/1
before them!  Their software is considered technologically a leader
in the industry.  One of the few Israeli stocks to be down this year
(6%) but at 10.5 - which is close to their IPO price of 9, they are
a good investment for the future.

Hope this helps a bit.

>
>Gedaliah Friedenberg
>-=-Department of Mechanical Engineering
>-=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science
>-=-Michigan State University

Hank Nussbacher
Karnei Shomron
Israel
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From: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Weiner's ego deflated + Chipmunk the moron
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:24:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Oct11.202426.17297
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories,  Columbus, Ohio

In article <2392@itexjct.jct.ac.il> warren@itexjct.jct.ac.il (Warren Burstein) writes:
>Didn't we have a holiday recently called The Day of Enthronement or
>something like that?  I can't remember exactly what the point of it
>was, something about repainting?  Does anyone out there recall?

Don't you mean Room of Enthronement?  Seems more appropriate to
this thread.
-- 
Art Kamlet  a_s_kamlet@att.com  AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus
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From: shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff)
Subject: Nominal Jokes (was Re: Adopted children)
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:35:06 GMT

... jokes about Sean Ferguson and Sam Ting deleted in the
    name of common decency ...

So three brothers were preparing to go the America, and went to
the rebbe for advice.

The rebbe suggested, among other things, that they adopt American
names; onme could hardly be succesful in the Goldene Medina with
Yiddish or Hebrew names.

Rebbe (to first brother): "What's your name?"

B1: My name is Beryl.

R: Beryl is nicht an Amerkanisher nomen  (sounds better in Yiddish, but ..)
   You need an American name.  Call yourself Buck.

R (to second brother): And what's your name?

B2: I'm Chaim.

R: Chaim is a fine name, but it won't get you far in America.  You
   need an American name.  You should call yourself Chuck.

R (to third brother):  And what's your name?

B3: My name in Shmeryl, and I'm not going.  (Ich heis Shmeryl,
    und ich fahr nicht.)




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   shimoff@umbc3.umbc.edu      |   X + Y = Z .  Easy to prove no solutions
Ashamnu, bagadnu, gazalnu ...  |   for n greater than 2.  Darn.  Can't fit
Better luck next year!         |   it into this little .sig file.  Oh well.
From: waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Todd J. Dicker)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Sinead O'Connor on SNL
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:32:39 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

abilenko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Arkady Bilenko) writes:

> 
> 	Dear netters, 
> If any of you were as geeky as I to watch SNL on Sat, Oct 3, I was wondering
> whether anyone else but me noticed the "Star of David" pendant on Sinead 
> O'Connor.  If so, what could it mean?  I am aware that that particular Jewish
> symbol became such only sometime last century, so perhaps, some Gaelic or Iri
> ethnic groups would claim it as their own.  Anyway, just random thoughts and 
> questions.
> 	Arkady (abilenko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)

I wouldn't attached any special meaning to anything she does.
Symbolism is not her forte'.

Todd
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From: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE)
Subject: Re: Tax support of religion in Germany; was Re: PLEASE! I need your help...
Reply-To: Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:52:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.134945.22047@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, 
kolassa@bio1.bst.rochester.edu (John Kolassa) writes:
|>Manfredo Tichauer (tichauer@valpso.hanse.de) writes:
|>
|>"In Germany every registered member of one
|>    of the following religious groups has to pay taxes. These taxes are
|>    later distributed to the church/sinagoge to whom the member belongs.
|>    These religious groups made an agreement with the German government
|>    because  they found it was a better way to collect money from their
|>    members:
|>             Jewish  
|>             Evangelical: 
|>                         - church of Germany
|>                         - free churches
|>             Roman-Catholic"
|>             
|>Actually, I think that the trend in Germany has been in the opposite 
|>direction;
|>it's not that these groups approached the German government to ask for taxing
|>powers, but a broadening of the general tax-supported churches common to the
|>pre-unification German states to include all large religious bodies.  Similar
|>arrangements are in place in other European countries.

Sorry, but this is not quite right. The collection of the religious tax is 
the result of the socalled "Reichskonkordat", which was sealed in July 1933.
The "Reichskonkordat", the (loosely translated) cordeal accord between 
churches an the state, was an attempt of Hitler's government to get both 
the Roman Catholic and the Protestan churches in line ("Gleichschaltung")
with the government, quite successfully, but with notable holdouts and 
exceptions. The "tithing" by taxation started soon thereafter (1934?).

I surmise that that after the war this particular issue wasn't really in
contention. I assume that legislature was expanded to include Judaism.

As far as I know, Germany is the only place in Europe, if not the world,
where such a "tithing" by government takes place.

|>Thanks, John Kolassa, kolassa@bio1.bst.rochester.edu

       Till Poser         Internet: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
-F35- ZEUS DESY/Freiburg  Bitnet:   POSER@DESYVAX
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From: silverman@ilvc.boeing.com (Jeff Silverman @ Flight Test Instrumentation Lab)
Subject: Re: Handicappers on El Al
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <silverman@ilvc.boeing.com (Jeff Silverman @ Flight Test Instrumentation Lab)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:48:25 GMT

It occurs to me that I might be in a position to work this problem, being as I 
work for the manufacturer.  So let me ask you this:

1) How often do people who are unable to move without a wheelchair fly?  Short 
trips (Tel Aviv to Elat, for example) probably don't count.  In other words, is 
this a real requirement?

2) What kind of aids could we build into the airplane to make it easier for a
disabled person to move about within the cabin of the airplane.  In other words, 
how can we design the airplane to make it easier?

3) Do these aids add risk to other passengers.  For example, we could provide 
more handles and stronger handles, but if somebody fell (in turbulence for 
example) and hit a hard handle, they might be hurt.

4) How do we make the change inexpensive?  Assuming that Boeing were to make the 
airplane more expensive to accomodate a handicapped person, would the airline 
then be motivated to buy an Airbus instead?

If you have good ideas, I will turn them in as suggestions to Boeing, and in the 
unlikely case that it happens, I will share the cash award, if any, on an equal 
basis.

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P.S.  FYI, in American slang, a handicapper is a person who calculated odds on 
horse races.  Politically correct expressions are "disabled" or "Handicapped".
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Subject: Re: Adopted children
From: news@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:08:21 CDT
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: Whence the minyan?
Summary: Ooh, what you just said...
Organization: International Irony League -- Death before smileys!
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:18:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct09.210308.1129773@locus.com> hayim@locus.com (Hayim Hendeles) writes:
>I believe that the Shmonei Esrei was defined by the members of the
>Anshei Kneset Hagdola, which existed around the beginning of the
>2nd Temple. The Talmud in Megilla (1st 2 pages of the 2nd chapter)
>discusses why the blessings of the Shmone Esrei were done in this
>exact order.

Come on, the Anshei Knesset HaGdola were very righteous. How can
you say they let their... ahems... do their thinking for them?

Sorry 'bout that...

It's just that "Anshei Knesset HaGdola" means "People of the
Great Assembly". Thus, "members of the Anshei Knesset HaGdola"
means "members of the people of the Great Assembly"... and I
think we should leave their members out of this.

(Joke-killer for foreign readers: 'member' is an English
euphemism for 'penis'.)
-- 
Andrew M. Solovay       "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
solovay@netcom.com			--Wilde

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From: billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp)
Subject: Re: *jesus of Nazareth*
Organization: LA&W RR
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 17:58:03 GMT

In article <4273@bimacs.BITNET> ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich) writes:

>>Another rather unfair generalisation.  Many Christian sects have made a
>>point of _not_ worshiping the cross.
>
>Do you want me to look for all christian spicies?
>The main stream christians: catholic, protestants,  the  eastern and
>many many other types do worship the cross.

Idiotic statements like this show just how ignorant of Christianity you
are.

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From: 2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (corrigible)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Jewish control of the banks
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:20:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: QUCDN.92285.1320312893684
 <1992Oct6.160318.18621@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>
 <1992Oct6.141415.19787@yang.earlham.edu>
 <1992Oct8.204317.13730@umbc3.umbc.edu>
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston

In article <1992Oct8.204317.13730@umbc3.umbc.edu>, shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu (Eliot
Shimoff) says:
>
>>>>In article <1992Oct05.135516.4687@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>
>>>>nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss) writes:
>>>>
>>>>>You had a monopoly on the media for the past 40 years. Is it too much
>>>>>if the Arabs side presented their case now?
>>>>
>>>>Don't forget the banks.  Jews controlled all those, too.  We also
>>>>controlled all the bakeries, and swimming pool cleaning franchises.
Actually, I've always found claims of Jewish control of the banks rather
laughable. Up here in Canada, a Jew couldn't even be hired as a bank tellar
until the 1950s. Our banks have always been dominated and controlled by the
Scots (no doubt as part of their conspiracy to spread bagpipe music and bad
food to all four corners of the earth)
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From: mgoller@uceng.UC.EDU (Michael Goller)
Subject: Re: Israeli stocks on the NYSE
Organization: University of Cincinnati, Engineering College
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:47:08 GMT

	I too have some interest in investment in Israeli companies
on the New York Stock Exchange. An d I would also appreciate any 
information anyone has on this subject. Thanks@!
(Typo ABove)

	Michael D. Goller
From: krovetz@sydney.cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Sermons
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:52:52 GMT
Reply-To: krovetz@cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz)
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

I hadn't realized that sermons were introduced by the Reform
movement.  Have sermons been given in Conservative shuls since 
the beginning of the movement?  How common are they at an Orthodox 
service?  At my local Chabad house, the Rabbi often teaches a bit of 
Torah before the Friday night service, and I remember hearing Rabbi
Riskin give a talk when I attended a service at Lincoln Square
Synagogue.

Bob

krovetz@cs.umass.edu
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From: MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Michael Shimshoni)
Subject: Interracial Marriages (was Inter*RACIAL* or Inter*FAITH*)
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:11:47 +0200

In: <92282.125917YZKCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Yaakov Kayman <YZKCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> wrote:

>Interracial relationships? I see no problems with inter*RACIAL*
>marriages. I recall one particular Orthodox couple: The husband
>was white, and the wife, African-American. I don't recall anyone
>having any problems about them.

I  am quite  ready to  believe  that Yaakov  Kayman did  not have  any
problems about it.   On the other hand I remember  reading that once a
pretty  "Orthodox"  man married  an  African  lady  who no  doubt  had
converted in  the most  "Orthodox" way,  but still  the sister  of the
groom, by name of Miriam, seemed to have some problems with it. :-)

>Yaakov K.

 Michael Shimshoni
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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: PLEASE! I need your help! Help me keep this love alive!
Date: 3 Oct 92 20:40:13 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

In <1992Oct2.173557.28173@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger) writes:

    The telling of the Jew in this unfortunate situation that she's grown up
    and no longer accountable to her parents is also a bunch of crap.  If she
    were truly grown up, she would've known from the start not to date
    outside the religion, and she would've had enough respect for her
    parents to not even consider marriage to the non-Jew as an option.

I must disagree.  While I strongly disagree with interdating,
intermarriage or showing disrespect to parents it is not the case that
anyone who interdates, intermarries or fails to respect their parents
is necessarily immature.
-- 
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From: shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff)
Subject: Re: Interfaith marriage
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:15:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.013054.12820@news.ysu.edu> aa324@yfn.ysu.edu (Marlene Miller) writes:
>
>
>Do you feel it would be 'better' for a Jewish woman to date a Jewish
>man who says he's: "Marginally Reformed and leaning towards atheism"
>or a Non-Jew who believes in G-d and is tolerant, supportive, and
>interested in my Jewish customs, beliefs, and traditions?
>
>Please note .. my friend said "Reformed" not "Reform".

From a halakhic perspective, it is clear that marrying the 
non-Jew is absolutely forbidden.  From a "survival" perspective,
it boils down to a question of which marriage is more likely to 
produce Jewishly-identified children.




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   shimoff@umbc3.umbc.edu      |   X + Y = Z .  Easy to prove no solutions
Ashamnu, bagadnu, gazalnu ...  |   for n greater than 2.  Darn.  Can't fit
Better luck next year!         |   it into this little .sig file.  Oh well.
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From: allenmk@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (The Not So Tall Adventurer)
Subject: Re: *jesus of Nazareth*
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 04:15:26 GMT

ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich) writes:

>In article <Bw5y2J.2E0@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>
>pasward@maytag.uwaterloo.ca (Paul A.S. Ward) writes:

>>In article <4273@bimacs.BITNET> ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich) writes:
>>>
>>>The main stream christians: catholic, protestants,  the  eastern and
>>>many many other types do worship the cross.
>>
>>No they don't.  They no more worship the cross than Jews worship the
>>Torah.

>Please don't teach me the Jewish laws as to the sin of idol-worship.
>Kissing the cross and bending to it is a part of idol worship.

I have never seen Protestants kissing or bowing to the cross.  I know that Jews
do not worship the Torah--I have seen Jews kiss the Torah.  

There are Christian sects that have fallen into idol worship because the people
have adopted the rituals and forgotten the reason and meaning behind the
rituals.  But you cannot generalize and say that all Catholics, Protestants,
and Eastern Christians are like this.  I am primarily acquainted with other
Protestant Christians, like myself--none of them worship the cross.  I also
have many Catholic and Eastern Orthodox friends.  They also do not worship the
cross, though they admit that some members of their sects have fallen into such
idol and icon worship.  

Melinda Allen
-- 
Melinda K. Allen                  The LORD is close to the brokenhearted 
allenmk@ucsu.colorado.edu       and saves those who are crushed in spirit.   
allenmk@tramp.colorado.edu			               Psalm 34:18
From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: PLEASE!  I need your help!  Help me keep this love alive!
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:41:06 GMT
Organization: liver ---> spleen

In article <22563@venera.isi.edu> arens@ISI.EDU (Yigal Arens) writes:

>Incidentally, there are many things over which "there may well be some
>friction" in a marriage -- being from different races or ethnic groups,
>for example.  Would you suggest a "trial separation" (including dating
>as many other people as possible???) in that case as well?

YES.  I'd say this even more as the issue's importance increases.  I'd
say it to two Jews, two athiests, or to any couple considering spending
the rest of their lives together whether in marriage or not.  I'd even
say it (and have done it) before such a long term commitment was a
prospect.
-- 
Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
From: "ken halfon" <ken.halfon@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: perot halts engagemen
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:45:12 EST
Reply-To: "ken halfon" <ken.halfon@execnet.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Executive Networks Information

In an article Marlene Miller <aa324@yfn.ysu.edu> writes:
MM>There was a discussion at our Sunday morning minyan that H. Ross Perot's
MM>daughter was dating a guy. H. Ross found out he's Jewish.. and put a stop
MM>to it before it got 'serious'.

MM>Has anyone heard that story?  Is there any documentation to prove it?

Leshana Tova Marlene,

     Ross Perot's daughter has apparently had several Jewish boyfriends.
According to some people I met when I went through Texas. His daughter
has not been permitted to date any of them for any length of time. The
same thing scares me about a Perot presidency... The man is a dictator.
He must have things absolutely his way... Imagine him being upset when
a favored piece of legislation doesn't pass and him vetoing 20 other
necessary peices as revenge. There are many stories and diliberately
little documentation. But from what I have seen I am beginning to
believe all the stories are true.

     BTW: The source of your querry was a gossip collumn that has
appeared in several Jewish weeklys.

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From: gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler)
Subject: Re:  Interfaith marriage
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:48:18 GMT

aa324@yfn.ysu.edu (Marlene Miller) writes:

>Do you feel it would be 'better' for a Jewish woman to date a Jewish
>man who says he's: "Marginally Reformed and leaning towards atheism"
>or a Non-Jew who believes in G-d and is tolerant, supportive, and
>interested in my Jewish customs, beliefs, and traditions?

The former (or is it reformer?).  But better still would be for her
to look for a Jewish man who better suits her religious lifestyle.
Unless she's on the dating game and has a choice of only one
of two (or three) men, why should this be the question?  Rarely
does someone find him/herself in a situation where he/she MUST
marry either A or B.  We're not talking about ordering Chinese
food, though Jews are apparently predisposed to this activity as
well.  If bachelor number 1 is not your type, keep looking.  When
you find a Jew who satisfies the "requirements," grab (in a figurative
sense) him/her.

-Don Gertler
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