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From: cza@troy.cc.bellcore.com ()
Subject: Re: "Fact & Fiction about US soccer"-suggestions?
Organization: BCR, NJ-USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:53:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.143012.17237@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:

The main problem was the TV media concersns that the game
is not suitable to draw commercials from companies.   I
don't think the offered solution is satisfactory them to

>(This problem can be taken care of, for example by condensing the picture so
> that there is room for the occasional commercial as well. Another possibility
> is showing brief commercials lasting only a few seconds, or "subtitles" shown 
> at the bottom of the screen without blocking out the action.)
>

They sometimes tried to break away from the game which
was on progress for commercials.  This was a problem if a
goal or other important event took place in the game.
The audience were very annoyed and this became a bum-rap
for the commercials.  To get away with this, American businessman
will bastardize this game by slowing it down with time outs
if ever takes off again as a national league.

Cengiz Akgun
From: cbrasted@iti.org (Charles Brasted)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: World Youth Cup Draw
Date: 22 Nov 1992 21:51:02 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: adelphi.itd.adelaide.edu.au

Are any of the finals scheduled to be played in Adelaide?


CheerS,
Charles.
From: mmuller@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Mark Timothy Muller)
Subject: Re: Penalty shootout queries
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Reply-To: mmuller@ics.uci.edu (Mark Muller)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:20:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.235425.11751@newsgate.sps.mot.com> altizer@iam.unibe.ch writes:
>In article 6nr@shuksan, major@shuksan (Mike Schmitt) writes:
>>  The 1991 Laws of the Game included a new section on how to control the
>>  procedures for "The Taking of Penalty Kicks" to decide the winner of a
>>  game.
>
>Actually, the section on kicks from the penalty mark *NOT "Penalty Kicks"*
>has been in the book (Laws of the Game and Universal Guide for Referees)
>published by the USSF for many years.  It's not part of the Laws of the Game,
>but a procedural recommendation for use where the rules of competition (e.g.,
>a knock-out tournament) call for one team to advance (not be declared the winner).
>
	The section is called ' Instructions regarding the taking of
kicks from the penalty-mark'.  It was adopted by the International Board
on 27 June 1970 and shall be used ' to replace drawing lots'.

note: drawing of lots (or flipping of coin) is still part of these
instructions should light fail (sun goes down, or stadia lights go out)
during the taking of the kicks.

Mark.


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From:  (Richard Moores)
Subject: Re: Tropical comments
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:59:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.222339@cs.bham.ac.uk>, ach@cs.bham.ac.uk (Alastair C
Hume) wrote: A very convincing rebutal!

Ally, as "Chairman Bill" once said, 

"Our bread and butter is the league title", ...that is the true measure. 

As a Celtic-leaning Koppite, I find it very difficult to contest your
position.

Richard Moores - Koppite In Exile    
Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada.
FAX:(613) 763-7283 Phone:(613) 763-4687 
My opinions, not BNR's
From: leitm@solb1.essex.ac.uk (Leith M F)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: It's COMPETITION time!
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:30:10 GMT
Reply-To: leitm@essex.ac.uk (Leith M F)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

In article <1992Nov19.113815.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>Dear MY BELOVED,
>
>Sparta Moscow are S***!  Wimbledon are S***!  SUCK S*** Chesterfield.  I think
>I love you, YOU RULE ALL MANAGERS, LIVERPOOL RULE ALL TEAMS, can I have a S***
>(sorry got carried away) signed picture of you, MY BELOVED, please.  Never mind
>that LIVERPOOL are heading for the 2nd Division, YOU ARE MY HERO - European
>Cups don't matter, nothing matters except YOU MY BELOVED, YOU RULE ALL MANAGERS
>etc. etc. etc. etc.
>
>Best Wishes to you MY HERO,
>
>DENISE
>
I suppose non existant prizes are as good an excuse as any to take the piss
out of Denise.  I think you might be wrong about the style she would write
to her BELOVED in though.  I bet she has two personalities, one for the
rest of us and one for HER HERO. 
 
Dear Mr Souness, 

  I am, dare I say, a most enthusiastic and devoted fan of Liverpool Football
Club.  I would like to extend my congratulations at your improving results
of late, such as the most excellent wins against Norwich and Middlesbro'.
Please convey my full-hearted support to your superb playing staff, and
also your splendid groundspeople, physiotherapists and coach.   
  May I take this opportunity to be so bold as to request an autographed
photo of you ?  I would treasure it, since I admire you greatly, both as
a manager and as a person.  

Yours sincerely,
             Denise   

P.S 
Do not listen to those quite awful chaps who call for your resignation and
sometimes even attempt to bring your impeccable character into question.
Oh, sometimes I get so angry I say "blow" and "bother" to myself, harsh
words though they may be.
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From: rcampb@cac.washington.edu (Russ Campbell )
Subject: Re: Japan (& soccer in the US)
Organization: UW Computing
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:27:49 GMT

In article <BxzIp1.Muu@hsi.com>, mallon@hsi.com (Dan Mallon-Kraft) writes:
> I would be glad to draft letters to these organizations and have others
> tear them apart.  Anyone want to join me?

Count me in.  I've called the local Prime affiliate several times not to
compliment them on their soccer coverage and indicate a desire for more
but if we can compile a list of addresses of companies, broadcasters,
publishers, the USSF, the APSL (again), and so on that are involved with
the issue of soccer in the US, including companies that have begun
incorporating soccer in their advertizing (a particular laundry detergent
comes to mind and Sunny Delight or whoever produces it) and post that list
periodically so that people have access to it that would be great.  I'll
dig around and see if I have any pertinent addresses and mail them to Dan
so he can compile the list for posting and then when it's posted I'll
gladly write letters to all of them.

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From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Championship of Sao Paulo - BR
Date: 23 Nov 1992 12:02:49 -0600
Organization: Universidade Federal da Bahia - Brasil
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X-Unparseable-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 15:23:17 BRA

 Championship of state of Sao Paulo , Brazil
 *******************************************
             Round 5
 Group 1
 -------

(Nov. 21st)
  Place - Moises Lucarelli    Att. - 16.805
  Ponte Preta    0-0   Sao Paulo
(Nov. 22th)
  Place - Caninde      Att. - 15.093
  Portuguesa     3-1   Santos
  Bentinho (1)         Marcelo Passos (1)
  Bentinho (2)
  Capitao (2)

 Group 2
 -------

(Nov. 22th)
  Place - Pacaembu     Att. - 15.041
  Corinthians    4-2   Guarani
  Nelsinho 8(2)        Edilson 13(2)
  Nilson (P) 17(2)     Edu Lima (P) 27(2)
  Paulo Sergio 29(2)
  Viola 46(2)

  Place - Parque Antarctica  Att. - 21.568
  Palmeiras      2-0   Mogi Mirim
  Edinho Baiano 19(2)
  Evair (P) 26(2)

Group 1
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Sao Paulo      05   04  01  00    11-03     10 (*) Because First
Portuguesa     05   03  01  01    07-05     07
Santos         05   01  00  04    04-10     02     Group A
Ponte Preta    05   00  02  03    03-07     02

Group 2
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Palmeiras      05   04  00  01    07-05     08
Guarani        05   03  00  02    12-08     06
Corinthians    05   02  01  02    10-09     05
Mogi Mirim     05   00  01  04    04-11     01
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Subject: Re: Rangers Match Report
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:39:48 +0000







In article <1992Nov23.092810.19942@spider.co.uk> scottj@spider.co.uk
(Scott Jackson) writes:

>Latest attendance at the piggery was 15,979 for the visit of Falkirk who had
>a sizeable support. "faithful through and through" - NOT!

Come now Scott, would you waste good money to spend an afternoon standing
in a blizzard at "Paradise" to watch the "best team in Scotland"?

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From: thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie)
Subject: OZ round 7
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:49:42 GMT


	Now for a real surprise I'll post the results of the Australian
Coca-Cola (gotta do the right thing by the sponsors) Soccer League

	Round 7						Crowd
	-------						-----

	Morwell		0 - Preston		0	3000

	Marconi		1 - Newcastle		0	2514
	(A Harper 55)

	Sydney Olympic	2 - Brisbane 		1	2800
	(P Cardozo 12)      (A Hunter 85)
	(D Seal 20)

	Melbourne CSC	1 - Wollongong		0	2200
	(F DeAmicis 15)

	West Adelaide	3 - Heidelberg 		0	3000
	(M Brazzale og 75)
	(J Palatsides 83)
	(J Iriate 86)

	Parramatta	1 - South Melbourne	0	3571
	(G Gomez 79)

	Sydney CSC	1 - Adelaide City	0	2800
	(T Krslovic 85)


			W 	D	L	F	A	Pts

West Adelaide		4	2	1	13	6	14
Parramatta Eagles	4	2	1	10	6	14
Melbourne CSC		4	1	2	13	7	13
Sydney CSC		4	0	3	9	8	12
Marconi-Fairfield	4	0	3	8	10	12
Adelaide City		3	2	2	5	4	11
Wollongong City		2	4	1	6	4	10
South Melbourne		3	1	3	8	8	10
Morwell Falcons		2	2	3	7	9	8
Sydney Olympic		2	2	3	7	10	8
Brisbane United		2	1	4	8	9	7
Heidelberg United	1	3	3	7	12	6
Newcastle Breakers	1	3	3	3	6	6
Preston			0	3	4	4	9	-1

Note: Preston had 4 points deducted by the CCSL for Crowd disturbances
      in the last season.

			Thomas the Tank Engine
			aka Algor

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From: s009@brems.ii.uib.no (Arne Rivenes)
Subject: Club history
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:40:29 GMT

There must be suporters for most of the clubs in England on the net.
(At least those in the league.)
It would be interesting to read some history/statistick and so on,
from the varius clubs.
So if you would post (or mail if I'm the only one that's interested)
some data about your club, than would those of us that's less interested in
"my club shits on your club"-postings have something to read.
Personaly would I be most interested in the smaler clubs, non-league or
those who have had a small amount of success lately.

I'm a Manchester United fan myself, and have a good time when Liverpool are
doing crap, but I can see that Liverpool are a great team (or where).
So what I would like to see is some discussions about clubs, rather than
yelling back and forth. Constructiv critisism, in sted of abuse.

If someone likes this idea, please follow-up.

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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Celtic go Dutch
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:36:30 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <92325.133822SHUGHES@ESTEC.BITNET> SHUGHES@ESTEC.BITNET writes:
>I`m hearing some report`s that Celtic are on the trail of some Dutch player?
>Can anyone fill me in who the mystery man is?
>I`m once heard Denis Bergkamp say "I`ve always wanted to play for Celtic".

Why is it Celtic have this talent of unearthing guys who say "I've always
wanted to play for Celtic". It must be the prospect of playing in front of
15,979 fans and going down 2-0 in the first fifteen minutes at home to
Falkirk. Didn't Rudi Vatta , the albino say something like that?

Anyway, I think Bergkamp is wee bit too expensive for Celtic although his
scoring record is far better then Slaters. Come to think of it, even
CantScoreIno's is better!


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From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: "Fact & Fiction about US soccer"-suggestions?
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:39:48 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Nov20.195539.21942@sequent.com> jwk@sequent.com writes:

> In article <1992Nov20.171514.21265@bmers145.bnr.ca> passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier) writes:
> > Let me say first off, I agree with everything Marcus said. Good article...
> >
> >In article <1992Nov20.143012.17237@abo.fi>, MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI
> >(Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
> >|>---
> >|>Off the top of my hat and listed in no particular order:
> >|>
> >|>1) "Soccer is a dull game where a goalless draw is the most common result."
> >|>(Admittedly, 2.5-3.0 goals per game isn't that good but still better than
> 
> What are you on? If you want scores like 100-90, go and watch basketball. I'd
> rather see a quality game that ends in 0-0 rather than an average game that
> ends with 10 goals. The reason I enjoy football is "the football", not slam
> dunking meaningless goals in every minute. This may be part of the reason
> that football never really gets foothold in the US. There aren't enough
> statistics for them to collect...watch an American football game on TV
> for details.

Well, the current Italian average of 3.4 goals isn't too bad, is it? There is
nothing wrong with goalless draws as long as both teams try to do their best
down on the pitch. Anyone can mention a huge number of exciting low-scoring
games that kept the audience on the edge of their seats (um, perhaps because
most soccer games tend to be low-scoring these days:-). But NO ONE should be
forced to put up with time wasting and negative, defensive tactics! FIFA's
decision to effectively ban the back-pass was a commendable step in the right
direction. The only thing missing is a second timer that would start counting 
down from 60 minutes as soon as the game begins and is suspended every time 
the ball is not in play (injuries, goalies wasting time by "bouncing" the 
ball, moving the "wall" during free kicks etc.), then adding all the extra 
time lost [if any] to the game after the regular 90 minutes are up. The end
result would of course be 60 minutes of effective playing time, disguised as 90
minutes plus "fairly allocated" extra time determined by a watch rather than
the referee. No longer would players be able to bend the rules by faking
injuries or similar things to hold up the games. Nor would the age of the
referee (older refs tend to finish games earlier than younger ones according to
an Italian study [WORLD SOCCER]) be a factor anymore. Naturally, this would be
necessary only at the professional and international level (there's no need 
to mess with designated timekeepers and stopwatches for youth and amateur 
soccer). 

MARCU$
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Video Nasty
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:15:09 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <1992Nov19.112150.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>Parish Priest but don't tell the bishop (Winning not Harold).  
                                          ^^^^^^^
C'mon Dan, as a Celtic fan, what do you know about winning!


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From: moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan)
Subject: Re: In article Muu@hsi.com, mallon@hsi.com
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:55:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1el3alINN8oo@sunaus.Aus.Sun.COM> peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM writes:
>In article E0L@apollo.hp.com, moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan) writes:
>In article <1ehrtkINNqht@sunaus.Aus.Sun.COM> peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM writes:

>>>While on this subject of rule changes, I read somewhere recently where your USSF, are proposing
>>>rules changes for the WC '94. This is an example of what I mean.!!

>>This is unadulterated nonsense.  The USSF have made no such 
>>suggestions.  There are a lot of bigoted people around the world
>>that have their noses out of joint because the US is hosting WC
>>'94, so they will make up all sorts of stories to make us look bad.

>It has been widely reported here in the Australian press, that the USSF have asked FIFA to 
>change the rules for the '94 World Cup, to incorporate 4 quarter football.
>Need I say anymore, who else other than americans would request such a thing.???? 

Again, the Australian press saying it doesn't make it true.  I'm fairly certain
that if the USSF were to suggest such a thing, we'd likely have heard it here,
especially those of us with an ear open to news of the WC.

>No doubt the push came from the CBS NBC etc networks to assist incorporating their
>huge advertising schedules.!!!!!  

Since CBS and NBC have nothing whatsoever to do with WC '94, they really don't
care about it in the least.  ABC and ESPN were granted broadcast rights only
after agreeing to broadcast without commercial interruption.  If they tried to 
back out of that agreement, their contract would be pulled.  FIFA doesn't need
any single broadcast network.  There's too many here for any one to be able to
exert any power.

>Thankfully, I heard today, that FIFA have politely told the USSF, to take a hike.

How convenient.  Nice of the papers to mention that.

>I am just tired of Americans changing rules, because it does not suit them.

Okay, I'll call you on this one.  Name -one- international football rule that has 
been changed as a result of action by the United States Soccer Federation.

>Cheers  Peter 

Cheers to you as well.  By the way, please don't interpret any of this as a personal
attack on yourself.  I only question the integrity of the journalists that publish
unsubstantiated rumor and call it fact.

===================================================================
Bob Moynihan                         Go Ipswich Town!
moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com             Never let the rocks cry out.
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  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not for Hewlett-Packard Co.
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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ONE-NIL
Date: 23 Nov 1992 09:28:24 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I haven't played ONE-NIL (but I have seen it). I have played their game
called GOAL, which has you manage the National team of your choice and
is similar in playing strategy to ONE-NIL.

Quite a realistic set of games.

Chris

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From: Dave <dch@doc.ic.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leeds-you have a rubbish pitch!!
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:34:58 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
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Keywords: Oh give it a rest.


Excuses, excuses.

Dave, "A sore winner"

PS Anyone want to buy Teddy Sheringham?
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From: wdj@math1.sma.usna.navy.MIL (W. David Joyner -- math  FACULTY <wdj@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: women's soccer club schedule
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:38:29 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

Hello everyone:
 Sorry if this is against the netiquette but I'm
 trying to figure out the 93 schedule for the
 women's soccer club here at the USNA. The problem is
 that most other teams are varsity and do not or cannot
 play us, due to NAAA rules. If there are any 
 people in charge of scheduling a women's college
 club team in the Maryland-Virginia-Pennsylania area
 wishing to play, please contact me by e-mail.
                       -Thanks, David Joyner
					   wdj@math1.sma.usna.navy.
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Japan (& soccer in the US)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:13:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Ok, Dan, here are some addresses:

ABC Sports - David Downes
47 W. 66th St. 13th Floor
New York, NY 10023
(212) 887-4867 - VOICE
(212) 456-2930 - FAX

CBS Sports
51 W. 52nd St., 30th Floor
New York, NY 10019
(212) 975-4907

SportsChannel America
3 Crossways Park West
Woodbury, NY 11797
(516) 921-3764

PRIME Network
5251 Gulfton St.
Houston, TX 77081
(713) 661-0078

All these are taken from the _Soccer Yellow Pages_ publishes by
Soccer America Magazine.

US Soccer Federation
Hank Steinbrecher, Gen. Sec.
US Soccer House
1801-1811 South Prairie Ave.
Chicago, IL 60616
(312) 808-1300 - VOICE
(312) 808-1301 - FAX

As far as TV is concerned, the ones to concentrate on would be
ESPN and ABC, who are contracted to televise the World Cup and do
almost nothing on soccer now. As for those networks that do cover
Soccer (SportsChannel & PRIME) they should be commended for doing what
they *do* show, but prodded to do much more and to show soccer at
regular times and not squeeze it in around infomercials.

Chris

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