HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert)
Subject: BUG!! in handicap scripts that were posted
Followup-To: rec.sport.golf 
Summary: BUG in handi.awk and handi.pl
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:04:42 GMT


Hello all,

	If you recieved a copy of the awk or pearl scripts that were
posted here for calculating handicaps please take note.

	In both the awk and pearl scripts the upper bound of the loops
that buble sort the differentials are wrong!

handi.pl:

lines 65-66 change from:

for ($i = 0; $i < $num_scores; $i++) {
    for ($j = $i+1; $j < $num_scores; $j++) {

to:

for ($i = 0; $i < 20; $i++) {
    for ($j = $i+1; $j < 20; $j++) {


handi.awk:

lines 35-36 change from:

        for ( i = 0; i < num_scores; i++ ) {
                for ( j = i+1; j < num_scores; j++ ) {

to:

        for ( i = 0; i < 20 ; i++ ) {
                for ( j = i+1; j < 20; j++ ) {


BTW, This bug has the affect of artificially lowering your handicap once
you have more than 20 scores in your scores file. 

-ethan






 


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From: yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Recommendations for golf club set
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:29:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep1.012919.2859
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Hello, I have reserved around $600 dollars for a set of golf clubs, minus 
putter (I love my current putter). I am an average player (around 50 on 
9 holes, + or - 3) and have been using some old clubs of my uncles. However,
the woods on these clubs are cracking and I anticipate them to snap off soon.
The irons are ok, but some of them seem bent and are of wierd style compared
to others I've seen. In any case, I would like to use my $600 on a good set.
I, however, do not know which sets are the most recommended for average 
players (probably will get better too, I've only played 8 times).......
Please, I'd love to hear recommendations.
-- 
    .  .      +---------------------------------+
  --|--|      | Mark Yeon Wook Choi             |
   /.\ |      | yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu |
  --|--|      +---------------------------------+  
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: cmhaar@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Chris Haar)
Subject: Re: Losing Clubheads
Followup-To: rec.sport.golf
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:34:52 GMT

In article <715147031.F00001@tdkt.kksys.com>, David.Moore@tdkt.kksys.com
(David Moore) wrote:
> 
> I was on the driving range today...I suddenly saw a glint of steel out
>of the corner of my  eye  just  in time  to  see  a  clubhead flying 
>about 50 yards out into the range... someone had built the  club with
>just the tip sanded and NO CRIMPING.  There was adequate epoxy on the tip.
> 
> OK,  the  epoxy  mix  could have been bad, but---I always make three
> "dimples" in the shaft tip plus sanding before I put any club I make
> together.   It  takes  a bit of twisting and a tap on the end of the
> shaft (opposite from the clubhead) on concrete to make sure  a  firm
> epoxy and mechanical bond is there when you dimple the shaft.

     Two of my friends and I not only didn't dimple the shaft tips when we
put our clubs together, we didn't even use epoxy!  That's right, no epoxy. 
Instead, we used a product called Loctite (sp?) Black Max.  It's actually a
thread-locking compound, but it has acquitted itself quite admirably in the
present application.  After two years of golfing, not a single clubhead has
been lost.  We'll see what long term use does, but I figure if it's going
to fail, it would have done so by now.  It also has the useful property of
being readily soluble in acetone, a plus if (like I) you are a bit messy
when assembling your clubs.  (I must admit, though, I don't know the
solubility of cured epoxy in acetone.  Anyone else?)

> I  don't even want to think about what a high speed club head flying
> through the air could do to someone.

Probably about as much as the ball would have done to the idiot who stood
in front of your shot.

> From Minnesota--highest per capita of golf nuts in the Nation!
> David.Moore@tdkt.kksys.com

cmh
Vote, dammit!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: 3 Club Tournament--Which Three?
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 07:16:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep1.123004.3293@b11.b11.ingr.com> cottle@b11.b11.ingr.com (Tim Cottle) writes:

>Our company league is sponsoring a 3 club tournament in a couple of weeks.
>Having never played in such a thing, I'm wondering--"Which three clubs
>should I take?".  I don't know anything about the course, having never played
>it before, and your putter does count as one of the clubs.  The only thing
>I have decided is that the longest club I should take is a 3 wood.
>
>The kind assistance from those who have played this type of format will be
>appreciated.  

I've never played in one, but I've given it some thought.

The first issue is:  how important is your putter to you?  If you're
the sort of player who survives by rolling it in from 6+ feet a few 
times every round, you probably don't want to do without it.  On the
other hand, if you're fully capable of missing from 16" out, you may
not want it in the bag.  This is mostly a matter of attitude.

The second consideration is how well you do around the green playing
Texas wedges.  If you simply must have your sand wedge to do anything
from 20 yards in, so be it.  If you can be creative with other irons,
then you can skip the sandie.

These issues are important to settle before you decide whether or not
you want to carry a wood at all.  If you absolutely depend upon your
putter, and you're a bit of a wizard with a wedge, the third club
probably ought to be a 5 or 6 iron.  If your putting is problematic
enough that you can use the blade of a wedge with no noticeable dropoff
in success, then skip the putter, and add a 5-wood.  Unless you're
just as good with the 3-wood from the fairway, it's probably a poor
choice, and under no circumstances can I see picking a driver (as you
point out).

My three would be 6-iron, SW, putter.  I'll need an extra stroke getting
to the longer par fours and par fives, but I'll be hitting a wedge in.
Plus, I'll have my best two weapons around the green, where we all know
is where the strokes *really* add up.

Have fun.
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 17:13:23 EDT
From: <RPT378@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Rude, Rude, rude

Tim, Tim, Tim.....tsk,tsk,tsk...but no flames.  I have not run into such a
miscreant on the golf course, but probably will at some point.  Don't know
whether I would have kept the wedge; I probably would have let him know I had
it while I took a couple of practice swings with it in front of the closest
water hazard and .........oops!, I'm sorry, it just slipped out of my hands.
Actually, I think you and your partner exercised remarkable restraint in the
incident.  Larry Z. :)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: par@teak18.cray.com (Peter Rigsbee)
Subject: Re: Divots.....
Originator: par@teak18
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:26:45 CDT


In article <4901@balrog.ctron.com>, spillane@ctron.com (Jim Spillane) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Aug27.173315.6199@mmm.serc.3m.com>, us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (St
> I pay my greens fees every
> weekend just like everyone else, and have the right to play at `
> my own pace.  If that includes practice swings on each hole, or even
> if I decided to mentally adjust myself for a few minutes with silent
> contemplation, that's my own choice.  Interfere with that at your
> own risk.

If this is your attitude, note that many courses, especially new courses, 
will not welcome you to play there.  These courses now state up front that 
they expect you to finish in a certain amount of time (usually no more
than 4 1/2 hours) and reserve the right to ask you to speed up or to even 
leave the course if you are playing too slowly.  They have rangers 
patrolling the course, and (if run right) these rangers will bug you to 
speed up.  These are often referred to as "Keep Pace" programs.  

I have seen these at a variety of types of courses:  municipal, public, and
resort courses.  And some of these are tough courses that attract golfers 
who really shouldn't be playing them.  (I played one such course on Hawaii, 
slope 128 from the white tees, in a foursome including a guy playing his 
*second* round of golf.  Ever.  But we finished in 4 1/2 hours.)  Some 
courses do a better job at running their "Keep Pace" program than others, 
but you don't take 5 hours to play 18 holes at any of them!

And most golfers seem to appreciate these programs; I haven't encountered 
anyone who objected to being asked by the ranger to speed up.

Perhaps you are objecting mostly to the thought of someone bugging you to
speed up, but if you in fact have habits that lead you to take a long time
to play a round of golf, then your days may be numbered.

	- Peter Rigsbee
From: rayaprol@kasi.pilgrim.umass.edu (Venu S Rayaprolu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Divots.....
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:16:27 GMT
Reply-To: rayaprol@kasi.pilgrim.umass.edu
Followup-To: rec.sport.golf
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst

In article <1992Aug31.134426.15039@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, warren@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (warren.a.montgomery) writes:
|> I've heard the advice to hit down on the ball and don't worry if
|> you take some turf afterwards often enough, and seen those rugs
|> that the pros slice out, but wondered whether one needs specially
|> sharpened clubs or needs to play on a course with fairways the
|> consistency of a peat bog to avoid breaking something.  Seriously,
|> every time I hit down on the ball, I come away feeling like I just
|> tried to chop into an oak tree with my 9 iron and wondering
|> wheater my club and my bones are still in one piece.  Does this
|> really work on rock hard midwestern fairways?  My own experience
|> is that I seem to hit a lot more consistently picking the ball
|> clean or nearly so than I do when trying to hit down through the
|> ball, and risking hitting behind it.  (Very easy and very
|> unforgiving, for me).  Now the advice to get to the pin is right
|> on and usable by anyone.  Aside from lowering your score, sinking
|> a pick or a chip is usually a thrill worth the price of the round!
|> 

	Ken Venturi's (CBS golf analyst) advice on hitting iron shots
	from a tight lie is to take an extra club and swing easy. I've
	tried this on a local course with semi-dry fairways and it
	worked for me. However, I realized that when I had a half to a
	three-quarter wedge to the pin or if I needed a lob shot, I
	was developing a tendency to quit, but over came this very soon.
|> -- 
|> 
|> 	Warren Montgomery
|> 	att!iexist!warren

Venu
--
"What's the definition of a good flame?  One you agree with..."
-- Karl Lehenbauer
From: d90gl@efd.lth.se (Gustaf Loefberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Fixing Ballmarks (was: Divots...)
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:42:38 GMT
Reply-To: d90gl@efd.lth.se (Gustaf Loefberg)
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology

In article <42760026@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, steed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary Steed) writes:
|> 
|> >BTW Don't replace divots on the greens. Just run and hide!
|> >8-)
|> 
|> This reminded me of something that I've been meaning ask here. 
|> 
|> I've always wondered about the proper way to repair a ball mark on the 
|> green. I see the pros just walkup and stick in a tee or their handy-dandy
|> ballmark-fixer and poke it in the ground and pry up some turf and tamp it 
|> down and that's it.  It never seems as easy when I do it. 
|> 
|> Let's use the following example;
|> 
|> 
|>                            X
|>                             
|>      ___________         ^^______________
|>                 \       ///             
|>                   \ _ ///                 
|>                       
|>                                         
|> What I usually do is to insert my hole fixer into the ground near the 'X'. 
|> Then I pry the bunched up turf back to fill the hole. If I go deep enough
|> I can usually get enough dirt underneath to help fill the hole. Than I can 
|> tamp it down with my putter, or my foot (are feet OK?) 

    

 I have learned by my pro that you should NOT try to pull up the grass in the 
 hole to fill the hole, then the grassroots die and you get a brown spot.
 Instead you should insert the tee and then press the edges down towards the hole
 This should be repeated from all sides of the mark.

 Gustaf
From: TJM@MATH.AMS.ORG (Tom Maloney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Mean 18 (MS DOS game)
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:30:51 GMT

Many thanks if anyone can point me toward a repository for Mean 18
course files. This would be the MS-DOS version (non-Windows). I don't
know if there are any others.

As compensation, I have created a couple of homemade courses that I
could mail to those who can help me out.

Please email to me and I will post a summary (if there is one).
Doing my bit to try to save bandwidth. Thanks again.
Tom Maloney/tjm@math.ams.org/American Math Society Providence, RI/401.455.4020
           DoD #614 / 1980 Kawasaki KZ440B / KoTDoD (Dumpy old Dual)

     "Brakes just slow you down and increase your lap times dramatically."
                                                      - Stefan Fielding-Isaacs
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Fixing Ballmarks (was: Divots...)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 05:54:14 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <42760026@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> steed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary Steed) writes:

>I've always wondered about the proper way to repair a ball mark on the 
>green. I see the pros just walkup and stick in a tee or their handy-dandy
>ballmark-fixer and poke it in the ground and pry up some turf and tamp it 
>down and that's it.  It never seems as easy when I do it. 
>
>Let's use the following example;
>
>
>                           X
>                            
>     ___________         ^^______________
>                \       ///             
>                  \ _ ///                 
>                      

The best way to repair a ball mark is to undo what the ball did.  Simple,
no?  The built up area at the back of the mark is simply displaced turf.
Since turf is easier to pull than to push, start here:
>
>
>                      |    X
>                     |      
>     ___________     |   ^^______________
>                \    v  ///             
>                  \ _ ///                 
>                      

and work the turf back to its original position.  Then bring it
in from the sides and front.  Push the tool in about 1" on all
four sides and decompress the soil.  Finally, step firmly and evenly
on it.

This may seem like a trivial issue, but imagine how much nicer our
muni courses would be if everyone treated the course like they owned
it.

Of course, looking at the triplexes some of those Raider fans live
in, maybe it's just as well...
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: jyct@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (John Yew Choong THAM)
Subject: Carbon Graphite Driver
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:36:11 GMT

Hi,

	I recently bought myself a Yonex Carbonex driver and I must
	say, the driver has added an extra 20 metres to my driving distance 
	and also improved my accuracy off the tee.  The problem is, how do 
	I keep the driver head in good condition?  After about 20 rounds, the
	head is starting to develop some scuff marks and some tiny "chips" are
	starting to appear.  Does anyone know if there is a way to restore this
	or protect the clubhead from these chips?  I already have a longneck 
	clubhead cover so I don't think that the chips are appearing due to
	banging around the bag.  Any suggestions?

	P.S. I always clean my ball before I hit my drives.

Thanks for any advice,

John.
Internet Address : jyct@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au
From: ronr@ateami2.EBay.Sun.COM (RON RICHARDSON)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: The pros aligning their ball before putting?
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:15:47 GMT
Reply-To: ronr@ateami2.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ateami2.ebay.sun.com
Cc: ronr



What are the pros doing when they turn their ball around before
putting?  Are they lining up the ball with the name stamp (legal?)
or rotating the ball so that only white shows?  They all seem to 
do it and even with the very short putts (time waster alert!!).

RonR
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: jim@pustule.b29.ingr.com (Jim Weeks)
Subject: Re: The pros aligning their ball before putting?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:41:01 GMT

In article <la4vfjINNld6@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, ronr@ateami2.EBay.Sun.COM (RON RICHARDSON) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> What are the pros doing when they turn their ball around before
|> putting?  Are they lining up the ball with the name stamp (legal?)
|> or rotating the ball so that only white shows?  They all seem to 
|> do it and even with the very short putts (time waster alert!!).
|> 
|> RonR
   
    I think I remember reading somewhere that Ben Crenshaw turns the 
 ball so only the white is showing ....seems like he said if wanted to 
 read on the course , he'd bring a book...as far as the timewaster alert
 no-one every said that those guys were models when it comes time management
 and it is getting worse...if you caught any of the US Amatuer this week end
 I could have played 27 hole in the time it took some of those guys just to
 putt....I really wanted to watch it but was absolutely bored to tears....
 
-- 
Jim Weeks                            
Ph. (205)730-4494                     Intergraph Corp.
Fax (205)730-6239                     Huntsville, AL 35894-0001
internet: b29!pustule!jim@ingr.com    uucp: ...uunet!ingr!b29!pustule!jim
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From: kimon@thing.ece.cmu.edu (Kimon Michaels)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Golf etiquette
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:43:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon

I golfed as a teenager in the late 70's and early 80's. After taking a
break from the game, I began golfing again last year. I've found that
waving a faster group through is a rarity these days. As a teenager,
my friends and I often waved faster groups through, and slower groups
just as often allowed us to play through. This year, I haven't been
waved through once.

Is this poor etiquette just due the greater number of new golfers? I 
don't know; it seems that the level of rudeness has also risen among 
long time golfers. 


- Kimon Michaels
  Dept. of ECE
  Carnegie Mellon
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: milos@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Bob Milosavljevic)
Subject: Club Assembly Pointers Needed
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:42:23 GMT

I just received the clubhead and shaft that I ordered from Golfsmith,
and I'm looking for some pointers on the assembly process.

The head is a graphite/kevlar composite, pre-whipped; the shaft is
graphite, .335" unitized tip. Following the directions I received,
I prepped the shaft tip, being careful to remove only the poly-
urethane coating. I also roughed up the interior of the hosel with
a rounded sanding board. After doing this, I was only able to insert
the shaft to a depth of about 1" before meeting serious resistance,
well short of the 4" required for this clubhead.

Now I'm confused and concerned. How easily should the shaft slide fully
into the hosel? If it's way too tight, what's the best way to remedy this?
I would have thought that a .335" tip would fit properly into a .335" hosel
with very little adjustment beyond the normal shaft and hosel preparation.


-- 
Bob Milosavljevic
Intermetrics Microsystems Software, Inc.       milos@inmet.com
733 Concord Ave.                               ...uunet!inmet!milos
Cambridge, MA 02138                            (617) 661-1840 x4606
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: par@teak18.cray.com (Peter Rigsbee)
Subject: Re: Practice Swings (wAS : re: Divots.....)
Originator: par@teak18
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:14:21 CDT


In article <1992Aug28.191101.5766@meaddata.com>, john@meaddata.com (John Manion) writes:
> If you're in hurry, don't come out and play.  I think it's time we all realized
> that the sport of golf is growing very rapidly.  Everyone out on the course
> is not a low handicapper, give em a break, they need time to learn the game as
> much as you and I did when we started.  

You are making the assumption that slow play is caused by new or poor golfers.
(Other people stereotype women golfers in this same manner.)  This, like most
stereotypes, is often *not* the case; it really is more a case of
personal attitude.  I know poor/new golfers who play quickly, and better
golfers who play slowly.  It usually is an issue of paying attention, planning
ahead, and doing what makes sense.

> If you want to bitch about slow play, bitch to the course owners, pros and 
> managers who send groups off at 3-5 minute intervals.

I assume (hope?) you are exaggerating about 3-5 minute intervals, but there 
is something to be said for this.  But I've seen slow play at courses that
have 10 minute intervals between tee times.

	- Peter Rigsbee
From: jcampbel@metz.une.edu.au (MR J CAMPBELL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:23:16 GMT
Reply-To: jcampbel@metz.une.edu.au
Originator: jcampbel@metz.une.edu.au

From article <fragante.714261691@unixg.ubc.ca>, by fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante):
> In <fragante.714166355@unixg.ubc.ca> fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:
> 
> Here is the summary of the responses to the "Name the clubs of the stars"
> trivia.

 
Stuff Deleted


> Also on Mark Calcavecchia, he used to play 845's. Someone in the net mentioned
> that he saw Mark play Ping Eye 2's lately. Well, I think Mark has now changed
> to Mizuno's as I saw his caddy carry a Mizuno bag in a recent tournament. Mark
> played with the Ping Eye 2's before he played the 845's during the square-
> groove controversy. I read that it was he himself that help ignite the furor
> when he hit an 8-iron out of deep rough, landed on the green and backspinned
> a couple of feet. Since then, Mark was labelled one of the "hi-tech kids".


Mark now plays with Bridgestone and whilst their precept blade is a truly 
awesome thing to behold Mark doesn't appear to be the blade type (obviously
previous ping & 845 man). Thus one woulb assume he uses the new J's cavity
back series or something similar from the Bridgestone range. He has certainly
been Bridgestone bagged and visored since the US Open (or maybe it was the PGA
we don't get telecasts of too many US PGA events here in Aust.)


					Cheers Cambo