HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Duane F Marble)
Subject: Re: Terminology
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:33:14 GMT

Could we have some more detail on handling very large spatial databases
without breaking them into "chunks," "tiles," or whatever? After spending
several years trying to work with global databases of very large size I
am unaware of any useful approach that deals only with the entire database.
-- 
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Department of Geography                Telephone: (614) 292-2250
The Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio 43210                   Fax: (614) 292-6213
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 12:38:07 CST
From:         "W. Fredrick Limp" <fred@CAST.UARK.EDU>
Subject:      New GRASS release (XGRASS and 4.1)
              Vishwa Prasad" at Jan 23, 93 10:11 pm

In a recent posting Gaddamanugu asks:
>
> Dear Grass Netters:
> I request information regarding the release of XGRASS.
> If it is going to be released shortly I would also like to receive some
> information regarding it's installation.
>
 new release of GRASS 4.1 and an X menu front end and graphics subsystem
(XGRASS) are going in to beta release shortly.  As always details will be
on moon.cecer.army.mil.  Note that all attending the 1993 GRASS Users Conference
in Reston March 14-18 will receive a CD-ROM with source and binaries of
the latest release.

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CAST, Center for Advanced Spatial Technologies   TEL: (501) 575-6159
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:55:32 EST
From:         Scott Madry <madry@FARU.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bathymetry data

Regarding the requests for digital bathymetry data

The Rutgers/CERL Global CD-ROM project is finishing preparation of CD # 2
and #3, to be available in early March `93.

CD #2 contains 53 global NDVI vegetation
greeness layers, one for each week of 1988.

CD #3 contains diverse data, including global bathymetry derived from
the etopo5 data. Also included are 12 monthly average rainfall, temperature,
and cloud cover data sets, a cloudless AVHRR composite, global
watersheds and rivers of the world (5 seperate files), and others.

All data are raster uncompressed files (in the GRASS directory structure
 for use by most GIS systems, including GRASS, IDRISI, Arc/Info GRID, and others
 All data are co-registered with CD #1, and have a cell size of 4 min 48 seconds

Each CD is US$375, less 25% to US governmental agencies, Non-US please add
$10 shipping. All three can be ordered for a discount price of US$900. All
proceeds go for production of additional data sets.
For further information, or if you have data to contribute, please contact:

Global CD-ROM Project
Cook College Remote Sensing Center
Box 231 Cook
Rutgers University
New Brunswick, NJ 08903-0231

t (908) 932-9631
f (908) 932-8644

or email madry@ocean.rutgers.edu
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:46:32 EDT
From:         Diogenes Alves <dalves@DPI.INPE.BR>
Subject: Re: GIS in Latin America

GIS and REMOTE SENSING in LATIN-AMERICA:

        Upcoming "VII SIMPOSIO BRASILEIRO de SENSORIAMENTO REMOTO"
        (Curitiba, PR, 10-14 May 1993) and "2o. SIMPOSIO
        BRASILEIRO DE GEOPROCESSAMENTO" (Sao Paulo, 7-9 July 1993,
        jointly organized with the IV Conferencia Latinoamericana
        sobre Sistemas de Informacao Geografica) may interest you.

        The last 3 Brazilian symposia on Remote Sensing, the first
        Brazilian symposium on Geoprocessing and Latin-American
        Conferences on GIS present a number of contributions in the
        area.

        Proceedings were published for all Brazilian symposia.

===     For information about the 7th Brazilian Symposium on RS
        write to:

        VII SBSR, INPE - Eventos,
        C.P. 515 - CEP 12201-970
        Sao Jose dos Campos - SP - BRAZIL
        Internet: ATUS@LTID.INPE.BR

        You could try to get proceedings or lists of contributions
        writing to

        INPE/OBT - COORDENACAO DE OBSERVACAO DA TERRA
        C.P. 515 - CEP 12201-970
        Sao Jose dos Campos - SP - BRAZIL

===     On the 2nd Brazilian Symposium on Geoprocessing and the
        IV Latin American Conf on GIS write to:

        EPUSP - Coordenacao de Eventos
        Edificio de Engenharia de Minas
        Av Prof Mello Moraes, 2373
        05508-900 - Sao Paulo - SP - Brazil




==============
Diogenes Alves, Tel: (55/123) 41-8977 x 483; Fx: (..) 21-8743
INPE - DPI

Mail:
        C.P. 515 - CEP 12201-970
        Sao Jose dos Campos - SP - BRAZIL

        (1) Thou shalt not do thyself what others can do better
        (2) If you want something done right, do it yourself
        (*) "-Que preguica!..." Mario de Andrade, in Macunaima
From: jim@grafix.eid.anl.gov (Jim Kuiper)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Study on GIS costs?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:47:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: grafix.72815325724556
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory


Somewhere in the last year or two I remember reading about a GIS study that
looked at the relative amounts of money spent for different GIS activities.
I remember that most of the expense was in data capture, manipulation, update,
etc. rather than analysis, hardware, software, etc.

Where did I see this?  I can't find it in the GIS World or GeoInfo Systems
magazines I have looked through so far.

If you know, please tell me. (Through e-mail)

Jim Kuiper
jim@spatial.eid.anl.gov
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:21:18 EST
From:         Holly Dickinson <esri!reston!holly@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Re: where to find USGS elevation data

You can get information and order forms for digital elevation models (DEMs)
from USGS:

USGS
Room 1C402
507 National Center
Reston, VA  22092
(703) 648-6045

Good Luck!


- Holly Dickinson
  ESRI-Wash. D.C.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:12:07 EST
From:         NINA@CATHAR.JCU.EDU.AU
Subject:      Spatiotemporal database bibliography

Could you please send me a copy of the spatiotemporal database
biblography, incase it isn't sent to this group.

Nina Morissette
nina@cathar.jcu.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
From: sieh@csn.org (David Sieh)
Subject: TIGER Utilities
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:29:34 GMT

I am looking for some (preferably public domain) utilities
for manipulating TIGER files...(e.g. utilities for converting
formats...TIGER to DLG, etc... geocoding, etc...)...

I am also interested in utilities for manipulating
"Donnelley Marketing Population Estimates"

Responses sent directly to me will be greatly appreciated...

Thanks

David Sieh
sieh@cadswes.colorado.edu
From: tuku@IASTATE.EDU (Sukanta K Mishra)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Re: abbreviations?
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:26:50 GMT
Reply-To: tuku@IASTATE.EDU (Sukanta K Mishra)
Organization: Iowa State University

PLC = Programmable Logic Controller

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   Ames, IA 50010       *  Ames IA 50011
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	E-mail: tuku@iastate.edu
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   Oliver's Law of Location:

        No matter where you go, there you are.
 
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From: scoggin@delmarva.com (John K Scoggin Jr)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Re: Greenspan Explains the Demise of IBM
Date: 27 Jan 1993 21:36:45 GMT
Organization: Delmarva Power & Light Company
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Does anyone know where I might find the following:

	* A source at the Fed for a copy of the figures being cited;
	* A transcript or videotape of Greenspan's comments?

Thanks.

	- John
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From: nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk (Nigel Metheringham)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Combining lots of indexes in WAIS
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:07:29 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

If I have a set of gopher subdirectories with WAIS indexing, is it
possible for me to make some form of index entry which would combine
all of the little indexes to give effectively one huge index of the
whole thing (at least everything that is indexed).

Now obviously I could do this by just hitting the whole tree with
the indexer, but that seems like an excessively crude way of doing
things - particularly as I already have indexed subsections and
taking yet another large chunk of disk space redundantly offends the
miser in me :-).

Also re-running the indexer on the whole lot when you actually only
need to reindex a small part and link that index into a bigger overall
index seems like a poor use of resources.  Having separate indexes for
say Unix systems questions and cookery recipes looks like a good idea,
but it would also seem good to be able to just say tell me about all
occurences of "chocolate" in this system!

To me it looks as though WAIS is designed to take a list of database
names (or files) in the .src file, but I have been unable to make this work.
The documentation (?) in source.txt states that database-name is a
list, however it appears that this part of the spec was still under
construction!

Any clues as to how (or even if) I can do this?

	Nigel.


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From: zeiden@bashful.cs.wisc.edu (Matthew Zeidenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: waisindex problem
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:50:14 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

I solved my problem. I didn't know that the -t flag was required,
I thought it would assume that it was indexing text.

Matt
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From: tim@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Looking for VMS wais client
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:14:16 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Hi,

   I am trying to find a VMS wais client with some documentation.  Can someone
please forward an address of an ftp site?  

						Thanks

							Tim Rebnord
							Buena Vista College
							Storm Lake, IA 50588
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: francois@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Francois Schiettecatte)
Subject: Generic multi-type wais server
Organization: Welch Medical Library
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:42:31 GMT



Generic multi-type wais server
------------------------------

I have made a number of modifications to waisindex and waisserver to
allow support for multi-type documents. By multi-type documents, I
means that the document can be represented in multiple formats such as
text, gif, jpeg, etc, there is really no limit.

The changes described below should be applied to the 5.1 BIO release
of wais. As far as this is concerned, The only difference between 
the BIO release and the regular release is the fact that the
former uses a structure to keep document indexing information,
whereas the latter uses a bunch of pointers.

The changes are available from mendel.welch.jhu.edu [128.220.59.42] by
anonymous ftp. The changes located in /incoming/wais-multitype.Z.

The way it works is that you need to specify a command line arguement
to the waisindex program which tells it that this is a multi-type
database and that the documents are available in the following types,
for example:

/big/wais/wais/bin/waisindex -nopos -nopairs -d /big/wais-db/jfif \
-M "TEXT,JFIF,JFIF-TBNL" -t filename /big/wais-db/jfif/*.TEXT

The -M "TEXT,JFIF,JFIF-TBNL" argument tells waisindex that the
documents are available in TEXT, JFIF and JFIF-TBNL (thumbnail) format,
note that the standard -f argument is used to tell the indexer what
format the text file is in.

Waisindex is smart enough to check that the various file types are
indeed available to be retrieved, so that the user cannot be presented
with a choice of formats that do not exist for a document.

Also the changes to the server maintain compatibility with the current
database format, so you wont have to reindex your current databases.

You can also compress the text file too using unix compress.

But here is the catch, all the documents and the various representation
of each documents must be stored as separate files, with an extension
that matches the document type, for example:

-rw-r--r--  1 francois    59689 Oct  9 08:42 scarab.JFIF
-rw-r--r--  1 francois     6233 Jan 23 14:17 scarab.JFIF-TBNL
-rw-rw-r--  1 francois      425 Jan 21 17:08 scarab.TEXT

The file scarab.TEXT contains the TEXT document, scarab.JFIF contains
the JFIF document and scarab.JFIF-TBNL contains the JFIF thumbnail
document.

This is a pain, but a small price to pay, I guess, for this feature.

You may also be interested to know that the current releases of xwais
and HyperWais support multi-type documents. There may well be others,
but I have not really looked into this.

Francois Schiettecatte
Software Engineer
Advanced Technology Group
Welch Medical Library
Johns Hopkins University
Internet: francois@library.welch.jhu.edu
Phone	: (410) 955-7581

Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: rick@cougar.msc.cornell.edu (Rick Cochran)
Subject: waisindex for words with embedded punctuation
Organization: Cornell Materials Science Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:59:26 GMT

waisindex does not allow a word to have embedded punctuation.  I wanted to
be able to search for things like "AIX 3.2.3" (heaven help me) so I made the
following changes.

It would be nice if wasindex's concept of a "word" could be customized.

-Rick

*** ir/irtfiles.c.orig	Wed May  6 20:31:33 1992
--- ir/irtfiles.c	Wed Jan 27 10:44:55 1993
***************
*** 284,290 ****
  
    for(ch = (unsigned char)line[char_count++]; 
        ch != '\0'; ch = (unsigned char)line[char_count++]){
!     boolean alnum = isalnum(ch);
      if(alnum){
        /* put the character in the word if not too long */
        if(position_in_word == 0)
--- 284,291 ----
  
    for(ch = (unsigned char)line[char_count++]; 
        ch != '\0'; ch = (unsigned char)line[char_count++]){
!     boolean alnum = isalnum(ch)
!       || ((position_in_word != 0) && (! isspace(ch)) && isalnum((unsigned char)line[char_count]));
      if(alnum){
        /* put the character in the word if not too long */
        if(position_in_word == 0)
***************
*** 391,397 ****
  
    for(ch = (unsigned char)line[char_count++]; 
        ch != '\0'; ch = (unsigned char)line[char_count++]){
!     boolean alnum = isalnum(ch);
      if(alnum){
        /* put the character in the word if not too long */
        if(position_in_word == 0)
--- 392,399 ----
  
    for(ch = (unsigned char)line[char_count++]; 
        ch != '\0'; ch = (unsigned char)line[char_count++]){
!     boolean alnum = isalnum(ch)
!       || ((position_in_word != 0) && (! isspace(ch)) && isalnum((unsigned char)line[char_count]));
      if(alnum){
        /* put the character in the word if not too long */
        if(position_in_word == 0)
*** ir/cutil.c.orig	Thu Apr 30 12:03:35 1992
--- ir/cutil.c	Tue Jan 26 15:25:49 1993
***************
*** 384,390 ****
      
    /* find the end of the next token */
    for (; searchStr[i] != '\0'; i++)
!     { if (!isalnum(searchStr[i]))
  	break;
      }
     
--- 384,390 ----
      
    /* find the end of the next token */
    for (; searchStr[i] != '\0'; i++)
!     { if (!(isalnum(searchStr[i]) || ((! isspace(searchStr[i])) && isalnum(searchStr[i+1]))))
  	break;
      }

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Subject: swais 8-b5.1 dumps core on SGI
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:40:09 GMT
Distribution: comp

Setup:
	SGI iris 4d,
	running IRIX 4.0.4

	WAIS 8-b5.1 release.

Can't run gdb on the core, 'cause it claims
	Bad symbol table: struct/union points to non-stBlock

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks,

Nat
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: PC vsersion with both client & server parts ?
From: russell@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Russell Fulton)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:14:21 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

Is there a version of wais that runs on a PC under DOS or Windows that
has both the client and server parts joined together? i.e. just allows
you to search databases on the local machine. (ie. wais without the wa
:) 

This would be really useful, there are several comercial packages that
perform full text searches but they all seem to suffer from one or more
of the  following problems:
  1/ too expensive (Inmagic, BRS, HeadFast)
  2/ too complicated  "   "     "  
  3/ too simple minded, (the type of progrm that index all the WP docs
                         on your disk)  

The particular application I have in mind is a bibliographic database
for our Play Centre (pre school) library, about 600 titles. We want to
be able to index author, title and subject fields (one index for all
would be adequate). At the moment we are using HeadFast (A good program
from the UK which is functional rather like Inmagic.) which is fine
while my wife is the librarian  for the Play Centre (She is a self
employed library consultant which is why we have the software.) but they
can't spend 4 years book budget to buy it for the centre when we leave.

In case you had not guessed I'm looking for a cheap (read free :)
replacement.

Thanks, Russell.



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<rj_fulton@aukuni.ac.nz>
From: jonathan@philo.think.com (Jonathan Goldman)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: Find Key in iubio wais
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:56:38
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: philo.quake.think.com
In-reply-to: warnock@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of 23 Jan 93 16:27:16 GMT

   From: warnock@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock)
   Date: 23 Jan 93 16:27:16 GMT

   ann@euclid.JPL.NASA.GOV (Ann Farny) writes:
   >I noticed, however, that the Find Key function does not
   >parse the "Tell me about" string, so after doing a boolean
   >search, the Find Key function takes you to every "and" in
   >the file.

   I think you'll find that the interpretation of the word "and" is a
   server function (doesn't really matter that it's treated as a boolean,
   it could be any stop word) and, as such, the client doesn't know not to
   highlight it when you hit Find Key.  In fact, this isn't unique to the
   iubio code - it happens to me in the b5.1 client all the time, with any
   server.  I seem to recall something that could be done about it passing
   through wais-talk a while back, but it might also just be a random
   neuron firing <g>.

   Anyway, I don't find it all the unusual an occurrance - you'd have to
   make your client aware of all the "special" words used by _all_ of the
   servers you talk to.

You're correct: this is server dependent.  There is a field in the protocol
for search words used.  Unfortunately only the server running on Quake
actually puts anything useful into this field.  All (well, almost all)
other servers just copy the input search words to this field.

It's easy enough to figure out which words are used.  If the score of a
word is 0, it's not used.

I should post the diffs need for this in the standard search engine.
Unfortunately it involves additional arguments to some of the search engine
functions, so it is not compatible with the current engine (and no doubt
will cause problems with the iubio patches).
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From: peter@micromuse.co.uk (Peter Galbavy)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: Hewlett Packard in space
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:35:41 GMT
Reply-To: peter@micromuse.co.uk
Organization: MicroMuse Ltd, London

In article 19082@aio.jsc.nasa.gov, kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov () writes:
>But this is sympomatic of a larger problem: NASA can't release software
>it creates to the public domain.  Whatever software NASA creates is in
>the Government's domain, and may eventually be released through
>COSMIC.  

I thought:

a) NASA is owned by the US Government
b) Work done at the expense of the US Government becomes public domain, so
   that the people (you the taxpayers) who paid for it get their monies worth.
c) I may be completely wrong, as usual.


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Tech Support, Micromuse Ltd
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From: bianco@aethelbehrt.cs.odu.edu (David J. Bianco)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Newer Z39.50 protspec?
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:15:24 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA

Is there a newer version of the Z39.50 protocol specification than the
one distributed with the WAIS system (Version 2, Third Draft, May 199)?
If so, where can I get a copy?  Other sources of Z39.50 information are
also welcome.  Thanks...

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