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               PHOBE ALERT:  Lou Sheldon's August Appeal
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          [UPI] "Queer Nation Milwaukee to boycott United Way"
                         OLTL, Tuesday, Aug 18

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 11:44:08 -0800
From: b_blumberg@macsch.com (Bryan J. Blumberg)
Subject: PHOBE ALERT:  Lou Sheldon's August Appeal

                     Traditional Values Coalition

                                                        August 12, 1992

XXXXX XXXXX
XXXXX XXXXX
XXXXX XXXXX

Dear XXX:

I have just returned from Sacramento where our office is conducting an
all out lobbying campaign against AB 2601.  I am writing to tell you
about two things.  First, to report a victory with the State Board of
Education, and, second, to tell you the status of AB 2601 which is
headed to the Governor's desk.

Before I do that, let me thank you.  You have been doing a great job.
Assemblymen and State Senators tell me they are receiving letters and
phone-calls from pro-family activists.  We have to keep up the pressure
and heat on these legislators.

1)  Together, you and I were able to wage a 18-month campaign
    monitoring and tracking the new public school Health
    Framework.  Last week the board voted 11 to 0 in our favor.

We were successful in lobbying the State Board of Education to stop the
proposed promotion of same-sex marriages, homosexuality, condoms, etc.,
in our public schools (K-12).

It is nice to see our side fight back and win a battle for faith and
family.  Our work is not a sprint, it is a marathon.  Traditional Values
Coalition is there to provide leadership and a "let's get it done"
attitude.

I thank the Lord for this victory.

2)  There are three homosexual special rights bills in the State
    Legislature heading for Governor Wilson's desk.

    A.  AB 2601
    B.  AB 3019
    C.  AB 3825

However, we must direct all our attention to stopping AB 2601.  If we
can convince the Governor to veto AB 2601, he will veto the other two
bills.  Therefore, we are putting all our energy behind stopping AB
2601.

By the time you read this letter AB 2601 should be on Governor Wilson's
desk awaiting his decision.

               AB 2601 HAS DIRECT IMPLICATIONS ON
                   CALIFORNIA AND OUR NATION.

America is in a clash over her national identity.  The battle in
Sacramento over special rights for homosexuals is indicative of the
national battle in society for the soul of America.

AB 2601 is a surrogate battleground for societal acceptance, tolerance
and eventual promotion of the homosexual agenda.

The advocacy of the homosexual agenda in mainstream America reached new
heights when Joan Lunden and Mike Schneider of ABC's "Good Morning
America" promoted and applauded a new homosexual character on the daily
soap opera "Days of Our Lives."  "Days of Our Lives" soap opera is using
the new homosexual character to promote the homosexual lifestyle.
Written into the script are parts which call anyone who opposes
homosexuality a homophobe, a bigot, etc.

               THE PASSAGE OF AB 2601 WILL HAVE A
             DIRECT EFFECT ON OUR NATIONS MORAL CODE

Historians do go back and look at things in society as turning points
for movements, wars, campaigns, etc.

The homosexuals battle to enact special homosexual laws is one of those
"indicator" points that will shape the values and beliefs of our nation.

That is why it is so important to stop AB 2601.

               THE PASSAGE OF AB 2601 WILL HAVE A
                   DIRECT EFFECT ON CHRISTIANS

The following Christian businesses and organizations are NOT exempt from
AB 2601:

     * Church support staff,
     * Christian bookstores,
     * Christian recording companies,
     * Christian radio stations,
     * Christian television stations,
     * Doctor's offices,
     * Dentist's offices,
     * Day Care Centers

          AB 2601 WILL AFFECT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS
                AND CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS.

The modern trend in the courts and governmental agencies is to exempt
from these kinds of bills ONLY the ordained clergy.  That means churches
could be forced to employ homosexuals in positions such as: secretaries,
administrators, janitors, etc.  Additionally, no non-ordained volunteer
is exempt, thus forcing churches to employ homosexual Sunday School
teachers.

Just look at the lawsuit against the Boy Scouts of America, another non-
profit organization being sued for not allowing a homosexual to be a
scout master.

             AB 2601 WILL INCREASE THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS
               IN CALIFORNIA AND DRIVE AWAY BUSINESS THUS
                        INCREASING UNEMPLOYMENT.

The direct costs to California businesses of complying with AB 2601
regulations, going to court, or of avoiding potential litigation is a
very real threat to their competitiveness and viability.  AB 2601 COULD
TURN INTO A QUOTA BILL FOR HOMOSEXUALS.

As California businesses struggle for survival, decreasing profits,
rising unemployment, increased dependence on state services, and the
inevitable reduction of the state's tax base will undoubtedly perpetuate
the state's current economic and financial troubles.

And now the liberals in Sacramento want to pass AB 2601 which will
further exacerbate the already wounded California economy.

               AB 2601 MAKES "SEXUAL ORIENTATION" THE ONLY
             CLASSIFICATION LISTED IN THE LABOR CODE THEREBY
              GIVING HOMOSEXUALITY AND BISEXUALITY SUPERIOR
             RIGHTS AND CREATING INEQUITIES FOR OTHER GROUPS.

This bill effectively provides homosexuals and bisexual with greater
protections and greater abilities for redress than are enjoyed by any
other individual.

AB 2601 is patently unfair.  Average people who classify themselves as
pro-life, anti-ware, etc., will have the same avenues for protection
under the law that homosexuals will receive with AB 2601.

But, homosexuals need only state that they are homosexual to receive
protection.

AB 2601 IS SIMPLY UNFAIR TO ANY OTHER PERSON WHO HOLDS A POLITICAL
BELIEF AND WHO MUST ACT UPON THOSE BELIEFS IN ORDER TO BE PROTECTED.

               THE TERM "SEXUAL ORIENTATION" WHICH IS
              THE BASIS OF AB 2601, POTENTIAL APPLIES
                 TO ANY FORM OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

This bill paves the way for the protection of all forms of sexual
orientation.  Are not people who merely classify themselves as believers
in pedophilia, bestiality and incest also participating in political
activity?

For example, pedophiles believe that their sexual preferences is an
"orientation".  If a prospective employee of a day care center espouses
his belief in pedophilia during an interview and is turned down because
of that statement, the day care center will have violated the provision
proposed in AB 2601.

Something has to break.  Liberals and secular humanists are essentially
calling Bible believing Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Orthodox Jews
evil people.  Many homosexual activists are saying that the government
must stop Christians from refusing to accept and tolerate the homosexual
lifestyle.  This is very scary.

              WE NEED TO CREATE AN EARTHQUAKE UNDER
          PETE WILSON'S DESK TO GET HIM TO VETO AB 2601

HERE'S HOW YOU CAN HELP,

     *  Redouble your prayers for the Governor's heart.  Ask the
        Lord to give Gov. Wilson wisdom and confidence.

     *  Tell as many of your friends, bible study partners,
        civic club members and family about AB 2601.

     *  Make sure your pastor knows about AB 2601.  We can provide
        Action Alerts and other literature for your church.  Call
        the Anaheim TVC office for materials (714) 520-0300.

     *  Call and write Governor Wilson.  Tell him that homosexual
        orientation should not be considered political activity and
        that he should veto AB 2601.

        The Governor's phone number is (916) 445-2841.  Address
        letters to:

                      Governor Pete Wilson
                      State Capitol
                      Sacramento, CA   95814

     *  Financially support our work.  We operate month to month.
        It is your donations and love gifts that sustain our work.

Daniel 11:32 states, "But the people who know their God shall stand firm
and take action."  Here at TVC action begins with education.  We have
educated you on AB 2601.  Now it's up to you to take action.  Contact
Governor Wilson and prayerfully consider financially supporting this
effort.  With Godspeed please act today.

May the Lord bless you and your family.

                                         Sincerely,



                                         Rev. Louis P. Sheldon
                                         Chairman

P.S.  Please help us so we can have
      2 great victories...The Health
      Framework and getting Gov. Wilson
      to VETO AB 2601

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From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [UPI] "Queer Nation Milwaukee to boycott United Way"
Originator: kadie@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:26:46 GMT

Copyright 1992 by UPI. Reposted with permission from the ClariNet
Electronic Newspaper newsgroup clari.local.wisconsin. For more info on
ClariNet, write to info@clarinet.com or phone 1-800-USE-NETS.

	MILWAUKEE (UPI) -- Queer Nation Milwaukee Tuesday formed a Queer
Scouts working group to boycott the United Way -- the largest funder of
the Boy Scouts of America.
	A statement released by the Milwaukee homosexual-rights group said
its working group joins the growing national boycott of United Way
because the Boy Scouts ban homosexuals from its membership and
leadership.
	``We believe that the Boy Scouts' policy of banning Queer children is
nothing short of child abuse and that this practice should not be funded
by an agency that purports to care about and support all children,'' the
statement said.
	Queer Scouts urged all Milwaukee residents not to give money to the
city's United Way chapter until it stops funding the Boy Scouts or
forces the Boy Scouts to change its policy.
	The group also urged residents not to support any organizations that
discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.
	Milwaukee's United Way allocated $760,000 to the Boy Scouts last
year.
	Queer Scouts will present its demands to United Way officials during
a meeting later this week, the statement said.

-
Carl Kadie -- I do not represent EFF; this is just me.
 =kadie@eff.org, kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =

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From: manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz)
Subject: OLTL, Tuesday, Aug 18
Keywords: plot summary, soap, oltl
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: 	Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:24:43 -0600

        Well, I'm still a week behind.  I hope to get caught up in the next
couple of days.  I'd like it if anyone who actually reads and appreciates
these synopses could give me some feedback.  This takes a lot of time,
so if nobody is actually reading it I might as well stop.  Send me mail
at manz@eigen.ee.ualberta.ca.  Thanks.

Tuesday, Aug 18

        We begin back in the rectory with Andrew and Cassie.  Andrew has just
discovered that most of his appointments have canceled.  Again his self
esteem is being compromised.  He asks "What if I'm destroying the church
that I am sworn to serve?"

        Sloan walks in and says "Good question.  The answer is `yes.'"

        Andrew and Sloan begin arguing again.  Andrew gets angry and really
tears into him, saying he's a "backseat, over the hill general running my
life.  Second guessing me every step of the way."  He calms down and
appologizes, but Sloan is not impressed and turns to leave.

        Andrew stops him and says "Iknow you came here for a reason.  Just
tell me what it is."

        Sloan suffers some kind of painfull attack (does anyone out there
know what he's dying from?)  Andrew asks Cassie to go get a glass of water
and gets Sloan to sit down.

        He asks Sloan is he is allright.  Sloan asks "You didn't tell her?"

        Andrew assures him that he hasn't.  "Well for once you did as I
asked," Sloan says.

        Andrew asks him if he has gone to the specialist he recommended.
Sloan says he has, and that the specialist recommended some new treatment,
but that he doesn't want to take it.

        They get into an argument, which leads to William again.  "We're not
perfect," says Andrew.  "I admit that.  Any of us.  We have faults, sins,
whatever you want to call them.  But we have got to learn to accept
each other Dad, to love each other.  Because of, not in spite of, those
differences."

        Sloan replies "There are some things that can't be forgiven or
forgotten."

        "When is it going to stop?  If what you say is true, and you have
so little time left, when are we going to stop punishing each other
and get along?  Or are you so selfish that you are actually going to
let yourself die before you give us another chance to actually be a
father and a son?"

        Sloan leaves without saying anything.

        Meanwhile Vicki and Clint are still arguing about her involvment
with Andrew and his problems.  He tells her that she is forbidden from
helping Andrew.  He says he's doing it for her own good, just like when
he told Joey that he can't see Billy.  He tells her that he doesn't even
know where Joey is, that he took off from the restaraunt.  "I expect
that he doesn't like being ordered around any more than his mother does,"
says Vicki.

        They start arguing about arguing all the time.  "Maybe we wouldn't
fight," says Clint "if you would spend a little time with your own
family and a little less with Sloan Carpenter and his."

[You may be wondering of what relevance this piece of plot has, but it
 will become clear later in the week.]

        Back at the rectory Andrew is wallowing in self pity.  "If I can't
get my own dad to show some compassion for a dead son, how am I going
to change the hearts and minds of a bunch of strangers?"

        Cassie consoles him, trying to boost his ego.

        "I can't get my father to accept a dead son, one that can't hurt
him anymore.  How am I going to get him to accept me?"

        "Maybe the place to start is with William," says Cassie.  "if there
was one small way, one small gesture your father could make toward
accepting William for the man he was."

        They discuss the idea of trying again to get him involved in making
William's quilt panel.

        "The panel needs more William's name, right?" Asks Cassie.  "Special
moments from his life, things remembered and cherished.  Maybe something
so special even the General will have to be touched?"

        "I just thought of something that would stir up a lot of excitement,"
says Andrew.  "What if we could get the quilt to come to Lanview?  If I
could get them to stop in Lanview for maybe a day, and show people that
this is everyone's concern... and maybe even Sloan Carpenter will..."

        Cassie says it's a wonderful idea.  "He would be touched.  I know it."

        They make plans to contact the organizers of the Names Project, and
convince them to come to town, and on what to do with William's panel.


        That's it for Tuesday.  Nothing about Billy.  They seem to be
alternating between the plot lines these days.  One day with Andrew,
the next with Billy.  Anyway, more later.  Remember, please let me
know if you want me to continue doing this.

-
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 My opinions are my own.         |  You can't be proud of who you are
 The truth belongs to everyone.  |  if you're ashamed of what you are.
 Civil Rights Are For Queers!    |  Cruise Men, Not Missiles! - anon

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From: <MARKD@urjwc.ucla.edu>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 12:43:00 PDT
Encoding: 107 TEXT

Reprinted from "The Cincinnati Enquirer" editorial page.  FYI - a fairly
conservative paper, this is the second anti-ordinance piece they have run
recently.  Also, note of interest, the publisher is Thomas Keating, brother
of the infamous Charles.  Oddly enough, the paper's coverage of the S&L
scandal was spotty.
    I'm asking for help.  A friend of mine (straight mother of two, weekly
church-goer, by the way) is angry and wishes to draft a response to this
drivel.  I already know to hammer away at the "special rights" thing, and to
ask "One percent or 90?  Is it right to discriminate?"  Could anyone offer
further advice?  Particularly, statistics or articles/reports to answer his
"expert" references?  I suspect that some of these are blatant right-wing
propaganda rags.  HELP PLEASE!
    Also, if you wish to respond yourself, the people, places, and addresses
are listed at the end of this message.

Gay-rights law unwarranted
     by Jim Emerson, guest columnist

    Much has already been written about Cincinnati's proposed Human Rights
Ordinance, which would primarily outlaw discrimination based on sexual
orientation.  The gay-rights groups, represented by people like Scott
MacLarty and Ted Good, have written in support of the ordinance.  Religious
leaders and conservatives, such as Charles Winburn and Nick Vehr, have
written against them.
    I have yet to read, though, an analysis of the assertions presented by
the propnents of the ordinance as to its necessity.
    The two main assertions worthy of consideration are these: (1) since 10%
of the population is gays, gays deserve legal protection against
discrimination; and (2) protection is also warranted since homosexuality is
an immutable genetically based orientation.
    It is routinely reported in the media that 10% of the population is gay,
but where does this percentage come from?  It comes entirely from the studies
of sex researcher Alfred C. Kinsey in the 1940s and 1950s.  Kinsey's highly
questionable methods and ethics have long since been discredited, but the 10%
figure, at which he arrived, caught hold and is going strong.  Recent studies
show that the incidence of homosexual behavior in the general population is
less than 3% and may be as little as 1% (British Medical Journal, 298, 1989;
Pediatrics, 89, 1992; Family Planning Perspectives, May/June 1991).  That the
10% myth has been perpetuated has not been by accident, as the figure is
central to the homosexuals' movement to legitimate their lifestyle.
    Homosexuals also claim that homosexuality is immutable, genetic
characteristic, much like skin color.  They point to two recent studies, one
of brain nodes, the other of identical twins, as proof of this.  Both of
these studies, however, have collapsed under scrutiny (see Sexual
Disorietnation: Faulty Research in the Homosexual Debate," Family Policy,
Family Research Council).
    This claim is further refuted by the existence of men and women who have
changed their sexual preference and left the homosexual lifestyle.  Masters
and Johnson report a 79.1% immediate success rate, and a 71.6% success rate
after five years, for their clients who attempt to discontinue their
homosexual practices (The Masters and Johnson Treatment Program for
Dissatisfied Homosexual Men, American Journal of Psychiatry, Feb, 1984).
    Homosexuals, therefore, have no basis for equating their struggle for
special legal privileges with that of the civil-rights movement.  Simply put,
one can becme a former homosexual, but not a former hispanic or
african-american.
    What is really at issue here is not civil rights, since gays are already
afforded the same civil rights as anyone else.  What homosexuals are after is
acceptance and support of their lifestyle.  Jeff Levi, as spokesman for the
National Gay and Lesbian TAsk Force remarked in 1987 that "...we are no
longer seeking just a right to privacy and a prtoection from wrong.  We halso
have a right - as heterosexual Americans already have - to see government and
society affirm our lives ... until our relationships are recognized in the
law - through domestic partner legislation or the definition of
beneficiaries, for example - until we are provided with the same financial
incentives in tax law and government programs to affirm our family
relationships" (Homosexuality's Legal Revolution, The Freeman, May, 1991).
    Gays know, though, that this legal revolution won't succeed without
coercing heterosexuals, most of whom realize that the gay lifestyle is
detrimental and costly to society, into a masked acceptance of homosexuality.
 This, then, is where the government comes in, through laws like the proposed
Human Rights Ordiancne pushed through the system by self-serving politicians
who cave in to the pressure applied to them by the small but vocal gay-rights
groups.
    The simple conclusion to all of this is that since gays have no basis for
their claims to special legal protection against [sic] they have no right to
force others to accept or support their lifestyle.
    Jim Emerson, a resident of Forest Park, is a member of the Hamilton
County Republican Party Central Committee.


The Cincinnati Enquirer
312 Elm Street
Cincinnati, OH 45202

Cincinnati City Council
801 Plum Street
Cincinnati, OH 45202
FAX (513) 352-1517
Members:
    Nick Vehr, against
    Bobbie Sterne, for
    Roxanne Qualls, for
    John Mirlesena, undecided
    David Mann, leaning against
    Mayor Dwight Tillery, undecided
    Peter Strauss, undecided
    Nell Surber, undecided
    Tyrone Yates, for

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