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From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Starfleet Doctors and the Academy (was Fascis
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:47:43 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <neil.712406438@ccl.umist.ac.uk>, neil@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Neil P.G.) writes:
> In <GERLACH.92Jul27092620@greyrock.yuma.acns.colostate.edu> gerlach@yuma.acns.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach) writes:
> 
>>Now the way I understand this, this whole thread about Bones, Bev,
>>Troi, etc. attending the Academy was started out of the fact that
>>Bones obviously never took the Kobayashi Maru test.  My understanding
>>form the novel _Kobayashi Maru_ is that only cadets in the "Command"
>>areas were required to take this test.  Since all of the
>>aforementioned crewmembers have specialties in the sciences, they
>>probably didn't have to take such tests.  This would also explain why
>>Spock (in ST:TWoK) told Kirk that _he_ never took the Kobayashi Maru
>>test.  Anyone else care to speculate?
> 
> My problem with that is that Spock, whilst clearly part of the Science
> area was clearly also part of the Command area - after all, he was
> First Officer and tended to take charge of the Enterprise quite often
> when Kirk rushed off headlong into Yet Another Dangerous Situation(TM).

But Spock did "double duty":  he was chief of sciences *and* Executive Officer.
A very unusual situation.  You'll remember in "the Cage" Spock was Science
Officer, but Number One was XO.  And in TMP, Spock came aboard as Science
Officer, but Decker stayed on as XO.  The only time Spock "transferred" into
command was when he was at the Acadamy as an instructor.  He didn't take
command training at the Acadamy, probably, so he never would have taken
the Kobyashi Maru test.

I wonder how Gary Mitchell did on the KM test?

Lorna
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From: pdg@crosfield.co.uk (paul goffin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The High Ground
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:18:47 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <1992Jul28.000414.29484@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gsb2q@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Briercheck) writes:
>Does anyone know why the TNG episode "The High Ground" will
>not be shown in Britain?  A network called Sky has supposedly
>picked up ST:TNG, yet they (also the BBC) would not air the show.
>Anyone know why?

Yes.

The High Ground is about (or deals with) terrorism.  We're a bit
sensitive about that over here.

It could also be thought that Data's line (something like):-
"....the reunification of Ireland in 2051"  (or whatever), might
give offence to some of the relatives of those killed by the IRA.

The High Ground is available on video though.  (How do you think
I got to see it?)

Paul
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: "Imzadi" - latest TNG novel
From: <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 1992 00:37:50 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <MARTIN.92Jul10125832@chimera.titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu>,
martin@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Tracy Martin) says:
>


 IMHO, _Imzadi_ is the best Trek book that I've ever read! I read the
entire thing in one sitting (about 5 hours). then I gave it to my brother
who stayed up ALL night (he called me about 10 am when he finished it)
to read it!

It was great. Cheers to Peter David.

Now I want to see it on film! I think it would make a great
two-part episode!

I agree with you, fastest read.  There was a chapter in the book which came off
from the first season "Farpoint" episode and compared it with the book, then I
really understand what she really meant...
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The High Ground
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:12:33 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul28.000414.29484@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gsb2q@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Briercheck) writes:
<Does anyone know why the TNG episode "The High Ground" will
<not be shown in Britain?  A network called Sky has supposedly
<picked up ST:TNG, yet they (also the BBC) would not air the show.
<Anyone know why?

Yep, we know why.

Oh, I'll bet you'd like to know why as well.  Since you didn't ask that
specific question, I'll answer it anyway.

First off think of these things:

1) The country of Ireland and Northern Ireland
2) What is happening in those two countries?
3) What is the storyline in "The High Ground"

Now you know the answer.
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: WANTED : ST:TNG tapes
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:07:45 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul24.132732.19348@yang.earlham.edu> alexv@yang.earlham.edu writes:
<  *Real* Trek Fans buy the collector's edition from Columbia Vidio House. 

** Super-Real ** Trek fans buy ST:TNG laserdiscs!
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From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Enterprise Filksong
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:36:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University


Well, just a little change of pace from the usual discussions about the
*real* name of the Klingon homeworld and knobby vs smooth foreheads. :-)
I thought everyone just might enjoy a little sing-a-long.  This particular
filksong is sung to the tune of "Heart of Oak" (or Come Cheer Up Me Lads)
Remember, it's all in fun. :-)

Oh sing me a song now, that I long to hear
Of starships and shuttles and aliens dear
Transporters and phasers, tricorders and then
When that gets too boring let's sing of the men

     Chorus:

     Enterprise is our ship, Exploration our game
     We never fight each other,
     We are the future
     So come with us we'll bore you again and again.

The warp drive is gone, red alert on the bridge
And who are those aliens with brows that are ridged.
We never succeed but we try anyway
We need Wesley Crusher to help save the day.

     Chorus:

Our crew is so gallant they don't even swear
The women so dull, notice only their hair.
Our Captain's engaging, to Starfleet he's true
You'll find when there's danger, puts tea on to brew.

     Chorus:

Our first mate's a lover, to us that's quite clear
Makes love to all aliens who swoon when he's near
When our ships's in danger there's nothing to fear
For we have the best in our blind engineer

     Chorus:

We fear no-one else for a warrior's on board
But most times we wait while he gets off the floor
And if we don't know what to do, have no plan
Just ask our Commander, he's more than a man.

     Chorus:

Marg
aka Elvira
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: 'Trekkies' in unexpected places
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:41:47 GMT

In article <21JUL199219510403@cs.umass.edu> atkin@cs.umass.edu (Marc Atkin) writes:

(In the Eddie Murphy movie "Boomerang" there is a reference to ST
Classic).

>I was wondering if this is part of a larger trend: It seems to be becoming
>more and more "ok" to admit one is a Star Trek fan without being automatically
>labelled as nerdy and/or a Jerry Brown supporter. :)
>Dennis Miller and Luke Perry (Beverly Hills 90210) have also openly said that
>they are fans (Luke even appeared on Arsenio wearing a TOS-style uniform top).

I state that I am a Star Trek fan if the subject comes up.  Star Trek
(as well as the manned missions to the Moon) was a big part in why I
became interested in astronomy years ago, and I say so if asked why I
am an astronomer.

>Is Star Trek so much a part of American culture nowadays that being a fan is
>no big deal anymore?

I think so.  I've seen references to "warp speed" in the newspapers,
and I think the term "warp" in the context of locomotion became
popularized by Star Trek.

>                     Or do people still look at you funny when you announce
>you're a Trekkie/Trekker? (I kind of remember a recent thread suggesting that
>women were often turned of by that kind of statement.)

No, I haven't noticed people looking at me funny (at least when I
mention I am an ST fan :-).  Being an ST fan does not define me; if
women (or others) are turned off by my liking Star Trek, then I think
they are pretty superficial.

-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
From: HJ46@lafibm.lafayette.edu (Baboo (Holton, Jeffrey))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: "I Hate You"--wanted
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:49:43 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University
Originator: news@lafcol

Not sure if it's been asked before, but I'm hoping to get a copy
of "I Hate You" performed by Edge of Ettiquite.  One of the
members of the band was also the punk on the bus and the
associate producer of the movie.  Someone tried to convince me
that he was Margaret Thatcher's son once, too, but I don't buy it.

=)

Thanks.  E-mail me or post to here...someone else might be interested.

--Jeffrey

hj46@lafayacs.bitnet

or

hj46%lafayacs.bitnet@lafibm.lafayette.edu
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From: Edward_Lee_Whiteside@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: *** Help me think up a good Star Trek license plate!
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:14:24 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <jhopkins.123.711921523@cbacc.cba.uga.edu>
  <1992Jul23.212739.3465@u.washington.edu>

You could always go for phrases, I've got "MK IT SO" on my place in Arizona,
you could could even add a letter to the "MK".
From: scotrix@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Scotrix)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: *** Help me think up a good Star Trek license plate!
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:00:52 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

I just moved to California and got a brand-new white Saturn car, and I
decided to get a custom license plate for it -- something involving
Star Trek.

I *love* the idea about doing something regarding the USS Excelsior
NCC-2000, but the plates 'NCC 2000' and 'USSXLCR' are already taken!
Can anyone help me think up some original but obvious way to make the
reference?

I'm open to any other suggestions as well, but I don't want to name my
car after a person (no 'PICARD' or 'SPOCK'), and all possible
permutations of '1701' have been taken.  People have even taken
'DARMOK' and 'JILAD'!

People have suggested 'NCC 2K', but that would be just a bit TOO
esoteric.  I want something that might look neat even to a non-Trek
fan.  :)

Some other ideas I've had are '1701 B', 'STARFLT', or just 'XLCR'.  If
you can help me come up with a list to choose from by suggesting some
more, please email me!  I'll post a list of everything I get after
some responses come in.  Thanks!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: umlippen@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Rick Lippens)
Subject: Re: Scotty in ST:TNG season 6 episodes???
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:12:52 GMT

In <30JUL199206545028@gergo.tamu.edu> dave@gergo.tamu.edu (Dave Martin) writes:

>In article <5792@ucru2.ucr.edu>, judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes...
>>I thought that the admiral was supposed to be Dr. McCoy.  I also read in an
>>earlier post that the name was never mentioned, thus it could be anyone.  But
>>I would think that it would be Dr. McCoy because he had the same personality.

>The name was not mentioned because it was not necessary to do so. Everyone
>knew it was DeForest under that makeup (what little of it was makeup ;) and
>knows that he is McCoy. Add to that the obviously McCoy-ish personality,
>including the standard McCoy-isms regarding ears and Vulcans and scattered
>atoms, and there is no doubt that it is McCoy. Now, the only thing they
>should explain is how his accent became even more "down South in Dixie" as
>he aged. :) 

> -                                                                     -
> - Dave Martin - Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M - 
> - DAVE@GERGA[GERGO,GERGI].TAMU.EDU - BROOKS@TAMVXOCN.BITNET - AOL:DBM -
> -                                                                     -
If you have watched the old series of Star Trek, there was an episode (can't
recall the name...someone might recall it) where the Enterprise came in 
proximity of an organism that entered the vents and made everyone get REALLY
old within a few days.  McCoy then, as he grew older, began to really drawl
out on the Southern accent.  Just like on The Next Generation when he appears
there, did the deepened accent come out...it's just aging I guess...
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The new season start date is...
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:22:24 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul23.070818.9099@midway.uchicago.edu> mehr@oskar.uchicago.edu (David Mehringer) writes:
<In article <3683@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<>In article <1992Jul21.232347.23422@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
<><
<><The TENTATIVE season start date is the week of Sept. 21 - 27.  I know
<><I posted this same message not that long ago.
<>
<>What is tentative about it?  Do you know something that the rest of us don't
<>know, like when the end of the fifth season comes about that the next week
<>will not be the beginning of the new season?
<
<Oh come on Vidiot, you mean you haven't heard that season 6 may not start
<as planned?  Just do a little thinking and it will all become clear.  As 
<someone (I can't quite recall the name) recently said, "thinking 
<produces wonders." :)

Believe me, if the season wasn't going to start on schedule I'd know about it.
If my thinking could come true, I'd start the new season next weekend :-)
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From: bill@math.psu.edu (Bill Conn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The Picard Family's Accent (was Sirtis's English accent)
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:29:53 GMT
	<BrrBH2.IuC@cs.psu.edu>
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Pennsylvania State University

In article <BrrBH2.IuC@cs.psu.edu> bill@math.psu.edu (Bill Conn) writes:
>  In article <1992Jul21.203052.8139@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>  >  During the 21st century, the British invaded (and conquered) France by
>  >  way of the two "Chunnels" that had been built by that time.  Therefore, 
>  >  even though the people of the area that was called "France" still use
>  >  "French" names, they all speak with British accents.
>  >   -- 
>  >  'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
>  >		    Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
>  >		    Space Telescope Science Institute
>  >		    Baltimore, MD   21218
>   Aren't you missing a smiley face?   
>   :-)
>
>     -Bill
>


Ooops!  Sorry for my confusion, Windsor.  I remember now.

     -Bill
From: amyt@romulus.rutgers.edu (Amy Humphries)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: In search of 1st series trading card #92
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:52:48 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I am looking for the maroon first series card #92 U.S.S. Enterprise.
If you have an extra you would like to trade or sell, please email me.
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From: HADCUJEK@admin.uh.edu (Julia Ellan Kosatka)
Subject: RE: Trekkers in unexpected places
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:30:27 GMT
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In <21JUL199219510403@cs.umass.edu> atkin@cs.umass.edu writes:

[stuff about Star Trek/Boomerang connection]
> 
> This scene got quite a reaction from a part of the theatre audience. I guess
> they were Star Trek fans themselves and happy to receive such high "endorse-
> ment".
> I was wondering if this is part of a larger trend: It seems to be becoming
> more and more "ok" to admit one is a Star Trek fan without being automatically
> labelled as nerdy and/or a Jerry Brown supporter. :)
> Dennis Miller and Luke Perry (Beverly Hills 90210) have also openly said that
> they are fans (Luke even appeared on Arsenio wearing a TOS-style uniform top).

Most of the people I work with are fans.  I *do* work for a university, but
I'm administrative not academic (my salary is the only thing that's academic).
:-)

> 
> Is Star Trek so much a part of American culture nowadays that being a fan is
> no big deal anymore? Or do people still look at you funny when you announce
> you're a Trekkie/Trekker? (I kind of remember a recent thread suggesting that
> women were often turned of by that kind of statement.)

Only women with no taste! :-)

> Comments, anyone?
> 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ph3@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Hamilton (phys 306))
Subject: Re: Shatner proposes idea for Star Trek VII
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:46:53 GMT

In <1992Jul30.075309.28876@edwards-vax.af.mil> becker@edwards-vax.af.mil writes:

>From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) WRITES.....

>>and i can't leave without some bonus flotsam:

> >>Come on.....thats like putting four other people in the I love Lucy 
> >>series and calling it I love Lucy.....it wouldn't be the same!  

>>of course it wouldn't be the same; it would have four other people!
>>=== THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE JOKE.  DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FLAME IT. ===

>Yes, and it wouldn't be I LOVE LUCY as we know it. Couldn't call it that
                                                    ^^^^^^^^
>anymore....have to call it something like WE LOVE LUCY.....Don't you get
>it?

I'm going to start calling oranges apples and apples oranges, just becuase of
you. Bye.

-Mike.
From: alexv@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: What would it take to beat the Borg?
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:58:29 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Jul22.052230.25855@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski) writes:
> In <1992Jul21.233857.10678@csus.edu> byron@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Byron Chun) ponders:
> [see subject]
> 
> 	How about a particularly *nasty* computer virus??
 Actually, not a bad idea.  Now if only we could justify biochemical
    warfair... :-(
> 	How about lotsa 'nanites'??
  Actually, if you like the novels, the nanites can not be used.  Much to 
Starfleet's regret, the nanites applied to be concidered a species, and
it is against regulations to breed a species for war. :-(. In any case, 
you can't make a nanite do what a nanitie doesn't want to do. 

In other words, Starfleet regulations alone stop us from doing anything
really *nasty* to the Borg unless they 1) ask for it(and sign a 
contract to that affect), or 2)we teach them individuality(another 
good idea), or 3)we send out another Kirk who doesn't even know what
Starfleet regulations are, much less follows them(9 in one month.. And
Picard only broke 3, what a shame...)
-Alex
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov (Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer)
Subject: Re: What would it take to beat the Borg?
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:19:19 GMT

Someone started a thread about destroying the Borg.  One possibilty is to
present them with some sort of visual representation that cannot be analyzed,
so that they "burn out" trying to understand it.  

(I do not claim to be the originator of this idea.)
From: mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: 'Trekkies' in unexpected places
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:28:26 GMT
Organization: Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon

atkin@cs.umass.edu (Marc Atkin) writes:

>I was wondering if this is part of a larger trend: It seems to be becoming
>more and more "ok" to admit one is a Star Trek fan without being 
>automatically labelled as nerdy and/or a Jerry Brown supporter. :)

>Is Star Trek so much a part of American culture nowadays that being a fan is
>no big deal anymore?


		Oh, I was "Trekkie,"
		When "Trekkie" wasn't cool...

		8^) 8^) 8^)



-- 
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Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon University.