From: borders@ms.uky.edu (Johnny Borders)
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas Ashers!
Keywords: humbug
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 07:19:54 GMT

underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:

>I won't go so far as to say that Christianity is a load of shit.

Who said Christianity? :) Muslim, Jew, Mormon (Lord forbid, pun intended)..
Goes for any of it.

>I am biased in favor of it.  There is no scientific evidence to
>disprove or prove many religions; basically, one believes what
>one likes.  I rather like the philosophy of "the sisterhood of
>womankind"[1].
Science? Why is everyone interested in proving something scientifically
anyway? Human behavior and science do not mix (so psychiatry/ology is
voodoo, not science! :)


>However, I often think that God simply doesn't care.  He may be there,
>but he's not listening.  I suspect that many people have this view.

But he isn't. What's REALLY funny is that us pathetic, insignificant 
human-type pests are so presumptious as to think we have a purpose or
that we were 'put' here for a reason. Ridiculous nonsense.

>When one is feeling like sh*t, even knowing that there'll be a better
>place is not too comforting when one has to live with the here and now.

>That's what Christianity teaches.  We should tough it out and
>live until we die of natural causes.  Suicide is supposed to be wrong.

Well, no.. Not really. Christianity teaches you to do what you're told or
else. :) It's also OBVIOUS that the Bible was written by people, because it
contradicts itself and is sometimes flatly wrong. In one point, it was 
obviously written by MEN in an era where MEN *WERE* gods and women were
objects to be sent to work, like animals. (that might strike a chord..)

>Therein lies one of the problems with Christianity.  Who are Christians
>to tell us what our pain is and whether it is tolerable?  Just
>who the heck are they?

Don't you read? :) God speaks through them.. <hahahaha> I bet they see spots
too! :)

>Funny, isn't it?  The ambitions of many depressed people are so
>little and insignificant.  I suppose that's why they are depressed.

Not really.. I wouldn't call his ambitions little and insignificant.
For the longest time, all I wanted was to be left alone. Now all I ask for
is for perfect world harmony and brotherly (or sisterly :) love for
all mankind. Well, maybe my humility will be the death of me. I believe
in "Utopia" even without some silly, superstitious deity. More importantly,
I have enough faith in mankind to accomplish it. :) Faith in anything else
is wasted time.
It doesn't really matter what he (or anyone else) wants. If they have such
a view of the world, they're wearing really tough armor. If he had a palace
by the sea, he would find something wrong with life. Most depressed people
are caught between dreams and reality. I know I am.. I feel that we should
be born with a right to live in a world free of strife, and find it such
a pathetic shame that it isn't so. (especially with people like me spending
$400 a week on bottled water)

>Angst is wanting so _very_ _little_ and _not_ even being able get that.

It wouldn't make him happy anyway, I've no doubt of that. It certainly 
wouldn't make *ME* happy. In America, $$$ means the way to a great deal of
potential happiness, but it is a very vain, shallow and short-lived 
happiness. It's not wants he needs, it's natural order.. harmony. :)
Something to treasure, perhaps.
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