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From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Word Processor recommendations for SCO
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:21:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.043751.28431@sherpa.uucp> rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger Cornelius) writes:

>We're in the process of upgrading from an old Altos 2086 running
>Altos XENIX to some yet-undecided 486 box running SCO UNIX.  We've
>been using the Uniplex WP which Altos supplied and wonder which WP
>to get for the new system.

Well if everyone is happy, why not continue with the old system.

>I've heard not-so-favorable comments here about WordPerfect for UNIX,
>and it's probably much more than we need anyway (I own WordPerfect
>for DOS and can't imagine the staff here ever needing most of it's
>features - I never have).

You mean like - it's slow, take too many keystrokes, etc.   A lot will
depend on what you need from a word-processor.    

I have two different places running it.   One is in a business
environment and they are using it and getting work done.

The other is in an education environment and all the terminal users
complain 'it's not like my PC at home'.  So all the terminals are being
yanked and PC's will replace them and probably use ICE10 as the
terminal program.    I prefer terminals when you need a terminal
program as they usually are faster.

>Can anyone provide comments/experiences of their own.  What about
>SCO Lyrix, MS Word for UNIX, or others?  If you're a vendor or VAR,
>which WP do you recommend to your clients and why?

If you use Unixplex you will find that Lyrix is similar..  They are
both decendants of Lex - from Ace Microsystems in England.   Similar
commands - I can't see going to Lyrix or Lex from Uniplex. They are all
similar.

>The users here are computer unsophisticated so user-friendliness is
>a must.  Use will consist mostly of light WP (memos, letters, etc.)
>with occasional mail-merge.  Desirable features include auto paragraph
>reformatting, on-line help, integrated spell-checker, etc.  Basically
>we want something nicer and easier to use than the old Uniplex
>currently in use.

Well - if you are not in a hurry - wait a couple of months.  I saw Word
Perfect 5.1 running on SCO ODT.  For the FIRST time I was impressed
with WP.  It was running on the console, so I don't know how good it
would be on X terminal.   The little monochrome Qume's X terminals
looked good - and they are only about $150 more than a character based
terminal. I was impressed.  The audience applauded the demo.  And it
was not quite beta software.  Release is sometime this fall.

I was told (second hand info here) that it runs just like WP for
Windows under DOS.   Grab the mouse, move the margins, click, done!
The WP rep demoing this made some remark about getting back to their
multi-user root after getting the DOS Windows version running.


>
>Thanks for any comments.  If demand calls for it, I'll summarize the
>responses.
>-- 
>Roger Cornelius            rac@sherpa.UUCP         ...!uunet!sherpa!rac


-- 
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                - bill@bilver.uucp 
                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
From: Rick_Turnbull@mindlink.bc.ca (Rick Turnbull)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Adding Floppy Drive
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:51:22 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

We are currently trying to add a 3.5 in floppy drive to a computer.  How does
one go about doing this under SCO XENIX 2.3.2?
2

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From: timb@ksgbbs.harvard.edu (Tim Buehrer - 625-6829)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: running 14.4 modems from XENIX
Summary: How can I set up a Zoom 14.4 modem on XENIX?
Keywords: modem zoom 14.4
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:39:32 GMT
Organization: Kennedy School of Government, Harvard, Cambridge


I hope that this is a simple question.  How can I set up a Zoom v.32bis
14.4 modem to run on XENIX?  Using the Telebit dialer doesn't work. 
Has anyone done this?

Thanks.

Tim Buehrer
From: davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Line wrap control?
Date: 22 Aug 92 01:35:15 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)


Is there an escape sequence (or other way) to disable wrap on the
console ANSI driver? I have some software which places 80 characters, CR
and LF as a line, and the wrap turns it to double space. I looked in the
screen(HW) escapes and didn't see it.
-- 
bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen)
    sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX
"I haven't had time to read the manual, I've been too
   busy fighting with the install" -Nevius
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,biz.sco.general
From: eilon@halo.tau.ac.il (Eilon Gishri)
Subject: Mirror site for anomaly.sbs.risc.net
Organization: Tel-Aviv University, Computation Center
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:04:07 GMT

Hello,
   To those of you who has problems connecting anomaly.sbs.risc.net ,
try  halo.tau.ac.il (anonymous ftp).

   Yours
       Eilon Gishri
 					eilon@halo.tau.ac.il
					eilon@ccsg.tau.ac.il
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: SCO XENIX or SCO UNIX?
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:53:47 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Distribution: comp
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug6.221505.8527@sics.se>, boortz@sics.se (Kent Boortz) writes:

| What is the main differences between SCO XENIX and SCO UNIX?

UNIX has the extended filesystem with long filenames and symbolic links.
It also resists fragmentation /far/ better than xenix. Xenix take a lot
less disk to run (6MB or so) in the minimal case, and less memory (we
run in 2MB on laptops). Xenix has no NFS.
| 
| Could binary programs for SCO XENIX run under SCO UNIX?

Virtually all will.
| 
| How much disk is required for the UNIX system compared to XENIX?

See above, figure about 10MB more for UNIX.
| 
| Is it possible to connect any SCSI tape drive, DAT, Exabyte, QIC150 etc
| to the XENIX and UNIX system or does each require a new driver?

These work off UNIX, and in general SCSI tapes run on Xenix. There is a
funny in some Exabyte drive firmware, I think the 5GB version, which
requires using new tapes on SCO.
| 
| Is it possible to boot the system from a SCSI disk?

Yes, but you can't mix SCSI and ESDI/MFM/RLL/IDE and still boot off the
SCSI. Actually you can, but you don't remotely want to know what it
takes ;-)
| 
| Is it possible to do any development without the Development package,
| like cross compiling on another computer with GCC?

If you have another system you can compile on that. But you can't just
drop in gcc and  run, although that may be possible by the end of the
year. The new SCO C beats gcc for many things, and includes codeview
(and cross compile to Xenix, OS/2 and DOS, if you care). If you just
need a high quality C compiler, gcc does a fine job.
| 
| Is there any text editor included in the XENIX system?

Not in my opinion, but ed and vi come with it. You can get three flavors
of small EMACS or the huge "real thing" if you want.
| 
| Will any 486 machine run SCO XENIX?

No, some vendors have managed to mess up their motherboards so the
external cache doesn't work to Intel timing standards. But about 95% of
all systems will, and (as far as I know) all major brands.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: david@dynamix.com (David L Jarvis)
Subject: ansi sequence for reprogramming keys
Organization:  SOFTWARE / DYNAMIX
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 10:11:29 EDT
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System:  SCO Xenix 2.3.4

The 'setkey' utility allows you to reprogram function keys on the console.
Unfortunately it only works on the console and not on other ansi terminals.
The manpage for setkey indicates that it emits the proper ansi escape
sequence to reprogram the key indicated to the value given.  The SCREEN(HW)
manpage describes a function for reprogramming keys, ESCQFn'value', where n
is a numeric starting at 0 for F1.  The first thing I notice is that the
other ansi functions documented in SCREEN(HW) have CSI instead of ESC,
where CSI is an ESC[ (or ^[[).  I tried, via echo in a shell script, to
reprogram a function key manually instead of using setkey, and could not
get it to work right.  Why do I want to do this?  So I can reprogram the
function keys on MS-DOG workstations using Digiboards DOUBLEview terminal
emulation program.  Is anyone out there familiar with the version of the
ansi driver specifications the SCO is using in 2.3.4?  (which I believe is
the same as the SCO Unix 3.2.4 console driver)  Can anyone give me an idea
how to reprogram function keys on ansi terminals?  (yes, I'm aware of the
alternative of using a TSR on the MS-DOG side, but I'd like to stay as far
away from dos software as I can ;-) if I start supporting it the client
base might start demanding it ;-))) )


#----------------------------------------------------------------------#
#          David L. Jarvis                 SOFTWARE  /                 #
#          david@dynamix.com                       /  DYNAMIX          #
#----------------------------------------------------------------------#
From: Charlie Rosenberg <crosenberg@igc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:09 PDT
Subject: mail log with sendmail
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1534600012:000:272
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!crosenberg    Aug 13 21:09:00 1992



Has anyone running Sendmail with TCP/IP and Xenix gotten sendmail 
to produce a mail log file.  And if so, how?  Everyone tells me to
use syslogd and syslog.conf but it don't seems to come with the latest
release of tcp 1.2.0

thanks
Charlie Rosenberg
crosenberg@igc.org
From: mel@fleet.UUCP (mel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Ctar
Date: 23 Aug 92 11:41:30 GMT
Organization: Fleet Parts & Equipment

What experiences have you had with the commercial backup utility
called "Ctar"? I'd like to use it with a SCSI HP Dat drive on either SCO Unix or
SCO Xenix.  Is it really as easy as they advertise to recover from a crash?
Is the SCO Xenix binary of "Ctar" interchangeable with the Unix binary?
i.e. If/when I upgrade(?) to SCO Unix will I need to buy a different unix
version of Ctar or will I be able to use the Xenix version.

Mel Shear
!rex!fleet!mel
From: plh@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Patrick L. Heck)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Need xmodem -- please help
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:28:55 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Originator: plh@cad.cs.Virginia.EDU


A program I am associated with runs a bulletin board for high school
girls interested in engineering.  The bulletin board runs under SCO
Xenix, but I'm not sure of the version (it is approximately 18 months
old).  The only file transfer program available is kermit.  The high
school girls are given PC's with geos.  The geos communication package
includes xmodem.  I would like to get my hands on a public domain
version of xmodem that will run under SCO Xenix.  It needs to be an
executable since our machine does not have the development extension.

Can anyone help me?  I need access to be via internet (ftp or email).

Thank you,

Patrick Heck
-- 
  Patrick Heck                         University of Virginia
  plh@cs.virginia.EDU                  Computer Science Department
From: ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu (John S. O'Conner)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Re: Word Processor recommendations for SCO
Date: 16 Aug 92 01:22:41 GMT
Reply-To: ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu (John S. O'Conner)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

One other thing to consider about WordPerfect is its excellent interface
available for X.  It's really very
nice to work with.  Also, WordPerfect's file format is consistent from
one platform to another.  This means
that you can easily use documents that you created with their DOS
product on you UNIX platform and
vice versa.  That's true for their graphics files as well.  It's just my
two cents worth but it may be worth
considering if you are working in a very heterogenous environment.

John -- ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: mintha@unixg.ubc.ca (Jim Mintha)
Subject: Re: GIF viewer for Xenix
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:51:51 GMT

> Seems there are quite a few of us looking for a gif viewer for Xenix
> ...In unsharing the package Ron Florence sent, I notice in the
> Makefile /usr/lib/386/Slibccgi.a ... not only can't I find that
> library, I can't even find the directory!  I do have a /lib/386 tho,
> but still no cgi library.  (I believe we have version 2.3.1b of the
> dev/sys, doubtful anyplans to upgrade either :-( ) To be thorough
> about searching for cgi stuff, I did a find / -print | grep -y cgi and
> got zilch :-((( Now, the xenix.faq lists CGI as a separate package
> from the dev/sys, however, it has a paragraph later on talking about
> graphics/gifs saying that cgi *is* included with the dev/sys, but no
> versions are indicated. Could someone (Chip? :-) ) please tell us all
> what the real story is?

When we got the development system about a year ago, the CGI package
came bundled with it, but it is separately installable.  So its possible
that it was just never installed on your system.  I'll check the version
number of our dev sys, and get back to you, but its 2.3.1 something.

Jim
--
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mintha@geog.ubc.ca               Work: (604) 465-5074
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: david@dynamix.com (David L Jarvis)
Subject: cpio problem
Organization:  SOFTWARE / DYNAMIX
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 10:54:19 EDT
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I'm having some problems with find/cpio ... 
run as root (thru cron and not)

find / -print | cpio -ovB > /dev/rjt0

works fine               

find / -depth -print | cpio -ovB > /dev/rjt0

gives the following warning message:

cpio: WARNING: Cannot obtain information about file:  "".
253620 blocks

this message is the last line before the final block count ... 
I can't seem to find out what it's referring to ... I tried starting
find out at /dira which is the last branch done before this warning msg
and the problem didn't happen ... also worth noting is that the output
of all commands in this backup script is redirected to a /tmp/log file
(I do an erase of the tape first and some echoing of msgs into the file)
I'm starting to suspect that this has something to do with the /tmp/log
file ... but I'm wondering why I didn't have the problem before adding
the -depth option to find ... can anyone out there offer some info?

#----------------------------------------------------------------------#
#          David L. Jarvis                 SOFTWARE  /                 #
#          david@dynamix.com                       /  DYNAMIX          #
#----------------------------------------------------------------------#
From: Charlie Rosenberg <crosenberg@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Date: 18 Aug 92 11:08 PDT
Subject: Re: Mirror site for anomaly.sbs.risc.ne
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug17.230407.1909@aristo.tau:-1979997745:cdp:1534600014:000:112
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!crosenberg    Aug 18 11:08:00 1992



ftp.uu.net has a small section of SCO stuff in /vendor/sco available
via anonymous ftp too.

Charlie Rosenberg

Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.unix.sysv386,biz.sco.general
From: rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger Cornelius)
Subject: Word Processor recommendations for SCO
Organization: Personal System Computing :-) Gulfport, FL
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:37:51 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.xenix.sco


We're in the process of upgrading from an old Altos 2086 running
Altos XENIX to some yet-undecided 486 box running SCO UNIX.  We've
been using the Uniplex WP which Altos supplied and wonder which WP
to get for the new system.

I've heard not-so-favorable comments here about WordPerfect for UNIX,
and it's probably much more than we need anyway (I own WordPerfect
for DOS and can't imagine the staff here ever needing most of it's
features - I never have).

Can anyone provide comments/experiences of their own.  What about
SCO Lyrix, MS Word for UNIX, or others?  If you're a vendor or VAR,
which WP do you recommend to your clients and why?

The users here are computer unsophisticated so user-friendliness is
a must.  Use will consist mostly of light WP (memos, letters, etc.)
with occasional mail-merge.  Desirable features include auto paragraph
reformatting, on-line help, integrated spell-checker, etc.  Basically
we want something nicer and easier to use than the old Uniplex
currently in use.

Thanks for any comments.  If demand calls for it, I'll summarize the
responses.
-- 
Roger Cornelius            rac@sherpa.UUCP         ...!uunet!sherpa!rac
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: tschia@exodus.reuters.com.sg (tschia)
Subject: SCO tar on Rel 3.2
Organization: Reuters Singapore
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:28:36 GMT

Hi everybody,
		it seem that the tar command does not support the -uf
on /dev/rfd096ds15 or /dev/rfd1135ds18 and also if the data is larger
than 1 disk space it cannot be carry forward to another disk. Any advise
?
Please HELP
A thousand thank you

TS Chia
From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: FAS 2.09p1 + xenix 2.3.2 + UFN upgrade
Keywords: FAS UFN XENIX
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:53:24 GMT
Followup-To: David_Jepson@az.stratus.com
Distribution: usa

Has anyone had any success in getting this combination to work?

The UFN upgrade was moderately painless but now FAS double panics the
system before the hardware configuration display.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

David Jepson

David_Jepson@az.stratus.com
These problems are my own and not related to Stratus.
From: bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Re: Word Processor recommendations for SCO
Date: 15 Aug 92 13:47:41 GMT
Reply-To: bob@ccs.COM (Bob Willey CDP )
Organization: CCS Enterprises, Inc. - Easton, MD

In article <1992Aug14.431@sherpa.uucp> rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger Cornelius) writes:
>We're in the process of upgrading from an old Altos 2086 running
>Altos XENIX to some yet-undecided 486 box running SCO UNIX.  We've
>been using the Uniplex WP which Altos supplied and wonder which WP
>to get for the new system.
>I've heard not-so-favorable comments here about WordPerfect for UNIX,
>and it's probably much more than we need anyway (I own WordPerfect
>for DOS and can't imagine the staff here ever needing most of it's
>features - I never have).
>Can anyone provide comments/experiences of their own.  What about
>SCO Lyrix, MS Word for UNIX, or others?  If you're a vendor or VAR,
>which WP do you recommend to your clients and why?
>

We have used quite a few different products and only recommend WordPerfect
to our clients.  It has more features than most people will need, but that
is good.  As things change, they have a product they can grow into.
The biggest problem with implementing WordPerfect is that most people
don't have any formal training program and just throw it in place, and
expect the users to mysteriously just start using it.  With a little
bit of training on how to use WordPerfect it implements very nicely into
just about any office.  There are also some very nice training video
tapes in the $40-60 range that are also very helpful and can be used
to give to new employees and for re-training.

WordPerfect has also been about the most stable Word Processor we have
worked with in the Xenix/UNIX environment.  Their support has been very
good and normally very timely.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: david@dynamix.com (David L Jarvis)
Subject: Re: cpio problem
Organization:  SOFTWARE / DYNAMIX
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 9:34:51 EDT
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> I'm having some problems with find/cpio ... 
> run as root (thru cron and not)
> find / -print | cpio -ovB > /dev/rjt0
> works fine               
> find / -depth -print | cpio -ovB > /dev/rjt0
> gives the following warning message:
> cpio: WARNING: Cannot obtain information about file:  "".

I've figured out *what* is causing this, but now I'd like to
know *why*.  I did a find / -print > /tmp/list and then did
a find / -depth -print > /tmp/list2 and compared the two.
Cpio was choking because using the -depth option causes a blank
line at the end of the list.  Why???  I have RTFM, multiple 
times and multiple reference books.  I think I understand what
the -depth does but I still don't have a clue why it would
produce a blank line.  Also, I'm still not convinced I need
it.  If I'm running this as root, won't find traverse any
directories anyway?  (and if I make sure that all dirs have
execute permissions for the owner, find should traverse them
in any case, right?)

Any helpful insight would be much appreciated!  
Best Regards,

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#          David L. Jarvis                 SOFTWARE  /                 #
#          david@dynamix.com                       /  DYNAMIX          #
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: creider@taptet.sscl.uwo.ca (Chet A. Creider)
Subject: Xenix with IBM Laptops
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:21:09 GMT

I'm considering purchasing an IBM Notebook (N51SLC) with a Micro Channel bus.
Has anyone had any experiences with the MC version of 2.3.4? I currently
use 2.3.2 and am perfectly satisfied with it. Is it correct that I would not
be able to use this on an IBM machine with the Micro Channel bus?

Thank you,

Chet Creider
<creider@csd.uwo.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco