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From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Random musings part I
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

(Donald Becker) writes...

>Masa Chono is the new NWA champ. Ron Simmons is the new WCW champ. Why
>don't I see this match happening? I get the feeling Simmons is going to
>drop the strap soon. Although Simmons could draw a lot of heat in the 
>south, I don't really see this as a great possibility. Then again, who
>else could work on Chono's level?

   No, I think Watts has made the decision that WCW will go with Simmons
as the champion on a permanent basis.  They won't have a quick trigger
finger on getting rid of him.  He'll be around as champ for awhile, and he'll
have every chance to prove himself as a legit number one man.  Watts knows
that it prrobably isn't a good idea to have your world title change hands
every 6 weeks and that stability in your champion is very important to a
succesful business.
   As for who can work on Chono's level, it ain't Simmons.  This brings up
the point of who the best workers in North America are.  In WCW, Pillman
comes to mind as the best, and the Steiners aren't bad, of course.  Steamboat
has proven himself, and Sting is much more capable than most people give him
credit for.  From there, Windham, Zenk, Rude, Brad Amstrong, Arn, Eaton, 
Austin, Gordy, Williams, Catus Jack, and Jake Roberts are all perfectly
acceptable, or better.  In the WWF, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Savage (who's
slipped considerably), and Flair (also slipped) are about it.  Other guys can
work well (Owen for example) but never bother to.  Everyone else you can flush.
IMHO, every single guy in the WWF works on a lower level than he is capable of.
Really, there's pretty slim pickings when it comes to workrate in the WWF.
Vince goes backwards, while WCW is at least trying to move forward.
    Makes me wonder what Lightning Kid is up to.  Any idea?

*************************************************  "Bowling isn't a sport,
Eric M. Chmiel***********************************   it's a disease."
*************************************************       -Gov. Jerry Brown
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Wrestling TidBits   -   0
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:08:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

Herb,

HK> - You've really got to hand it to the WCW production crew in the past
  >   little while.  They've really worked hard to get very recent
  >   happenings encapsulated for TV in only a few days.  It was great

I have heard that before.  Instead of congratulating them, I say "What
the hell took them so long."  Every weekend in Mexico, both the EMLL and
Triple A have Friday night shows.  Both make the air on the weekend.  As
a matter of fact, the EMLL makes it to TV in less than 24 hour, plus
they edit in match results from the Tuesday Arena Coliseo card.

Japan also gets stuff up fast, at times.  The aired the Rude-Chono final
that happened on 8\12 on 8\15.

I don't mean to slight the WCW crew.  I just think they should do this
kind of thing more often.  I really hate to see a show reviewed before I
even see it. Thanks to the sheets, maybe they will.

After looking at your Summerslam report, it made me very happy that I
don't follow the WWF anymore.  The post slam programs look boring and
pathetic.

HK> - Following hot on the heels of last week's addition of 9 videos
  >   to my collection, I've arranged to receive 36 other videos,
  >   31 of which will be wrestling from Japan from 1980 to 1987,
  >   with the other 5 being Calgary Stampede Wrestling from 1987.

Collecting tapes is a sickness.  Trust me.
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From: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Subject: Re: History of the Faces
Reply-To: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 16:42:50 GMT


In a previous article, marine@ils.nwu.edu (Colette Marine) says:

>
>That's too bad.  Saito was a great heel.  Does anyone know the circumstances
>of his turn?  I had given up on the AWA by this time...
>
>Jared D. Brame
>

Ummmm, at the time, there was a masked wrestler in the AWA, who's name
escapes me at the moment.  Zybysko signed to wrestle him on tv, and when
match time came, someone else came out with the mask on to wrestle
Zybysko.  Zybysko was pinned and the wrestler unmasked as Saito, who
said he was back in the AWA to challenge his old partner, Zybysko.
Eventually, in Feb 90, Saito defeated Zybysko for the belt in Tokyo.
Zybysko regained the belt a couple monthes later.
-- 
"Dark Star" Dominic Macika 		internet:macika@emunix.emich.edu

"Standing on a hill in my mountains of dreams,
telling myself it's not as hard as it seems."
From: mannk@fshvmfk1.VNET.IBM.COM (Ken Mann)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 09:38:30 EDT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: History of the Faces
Reply-To: mannk@fshvmfk1.VNET.IBM.COM
Organization: IBM
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: Usenet 3.0

Eric Chmiel writes:
>     Other candidates for a no-turn career (which I am frankly not sure about)
> and who at the very least have done very long runs without a change include:
>     Scott Steiner, Tom Zenk, Arn Anderson, Steve Austin, Barbarian and
> Warlord (or were they once faces as Powers of Pain??), Greg Valentine, Kevin
> Nash in various incarnations, Dallas Page, El Gigante, Chris Chavis, Kamala,
> Carlos Colon and the obnoxious Marcus Alexander Bagwell (altough a heel turn
> for this bozo would be a good idea). These are off the top of my head and may
> be inaccurate.

Powers of Pain came in to WWF as faces.  Pretty unbelievable, huh?!
Also, Greg "The Hammer" Valentine turned face after his split with his tag
team partner, the Honkey Talk Man.

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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 12 Aug 1992 08:36:31 EDT
From: William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WCW-WWF jumps
 <1992Aug7.210730.28946@data-io.com>
 <1992Aug8.085848.25481@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>

Rickey Steamboat could also be considered in both categories,  I am
unfamiliar with his whereabout before Wrestlemania I,  but I know that
he went to WCW (NWA) to beat Flair,  then came back to WWF after
loosing and made a stint as a 'fire-breathing' Dragon.  Then he returned
to WCW as Dustin Rhodes Tag team partner.

      Since we're on the subject of flips,  anyone care to make a list
of current wrestlers who HAVEN'T flipped from heel to face or vice versa.
The list of those who have flipped would probably be too long to comprise,
Lex Lugar taking up half of it.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: brian@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet)
Subject: Re: Wrestlers I'd like to see
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 06:09:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.033201.21726@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson) writes:
>
>In a previous article, brian@odie.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet) says:
>
>>I FLEX IN YOU RGENERAL DIRECTION!!! :)
>>VOLCANO
>
>How come they didnt let us have Usenet when *I* was in Junior High??
> 
>Todd
>
Grrr I had to go though the same shit on the local BBS's
Grr
OK I guess I will have to explain it real slow to you.
There are several ways to take this.
1:Try saying it like hanz and Franz do, [and do their pose thing]
  I made a impression of them and through it in..
2: Remember the quest for the holy Grail by monty Python..
   I fart in your general direction I believe..
   Well I changed it to flex.
3: it's just funny [considering I am 280 with a fat % of 30%+]
4: It's better then my other sig, the volcano buries all.. [a wrestling thang]
5: It's in caps,,, it's the arnold  opps AR-NOLD thing to do.

As for Volcano, well considering my girth slightly above average hight
and beard, I bear a passing resemblence to my faverate wrestler
[opps former I refuse to like a rassler that runts like] Earthquake
thus... I named myself after a third natural disaster a VOLCANO
earth.. earthquake
Water [some say air] Typoon
Fire [Volcano]
all we need is air.. like hurricane..
There.. I am keeping my sig as it is..
BTW I have one degree already.

Considering how badly I am doing in the old PWA [7-14-1 I believe
with Volcano maybe I should switch to the ultimate economist...

I FLEX blah blah
VOLCANO

Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: pmorris@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Moondog White
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:24:18 GMT

Moon Dog White, aka Sailor White, aka Crazy Sailor White, has returned 
to the ring (I can hear all the who questions: Who is he? Who Cares?)

Well, he is one of the few pro wrestlers to come from Newfoundland 
(Hartford Love being one other I know of). He wrestled out of central 
Canada for a number of years and even went to the WWF for a stint 
ending in about 1986. Booze, coke and a bad attitude led to his almost 
total destruction after. He lost his job wrestling, his family and 
ended up in jail. Last year a local tv station in Newofundland did a 
documentary on him. He was working at a Salvation Army Shelter in 
ottawa, having gone through Sally Ann de-tox and finding religion on 
the trip.

Last night they updated their story. Sailor White returned to the ring 
in a match in Richmond, Ontario, against Gino Brito. Both guys looked 
very out of shape and the few clips we saw of the match indicated a 
s-l-o-w pace. Gino did the job for Sailor who is now stumping as a 
role model for kids to show how you can turn your life around. Sailor 
also was sporting a belt (it looked legit, but is it more of a prop or 
some remnant of his earlier fame).

Anyways, I hope someone here in Newfoundland sets up some matches so 
that Sailor can come home again - I really believe he'd be a good draw 
(regardless of how his "talents" :-) have deteriorated).

Stig (in Newfoundland)
From: mfinn@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mai-Ly Finn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: King Kong Bundy
Date: 15 Aug 92 02:09:26 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Aug14.102728.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> c9107143@cc.newcastle.edu.au (SEARCH AND DESTROY YOU RUN AND I'LL FIND YOU THERE'S NO PLACE TO HIDE THE KURGEN WILL GET YOU) writes:
>Does Anyone know where King Kong Bundy is these days????
>I haven't seen him since he left the WWF in the mid 80s..
>Does anyone know where he went after leaving there???
>thanks
>later
>Kurgen

King Kong Bundy did a guest shot on "Married with Children" a while ago.
I haven't seen him since.

Mai-Ly
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc,rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.brazil
From: htr@world.std.com (Helena T Robinson)
Subject: Re: POOR TRIPLECAST
Summary: Wrong...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:20:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug2.152244.10679@usl.edu> txl9304@usl.edu (Loo Tzeyeong) writes(in part):
>There are over 30 (do not know the exact number) events in the Olympic Game,
>but TripleCast has made it look like there are only less then 10 events in the
>game. I think one reason for this is that TripleCast has concentrated on those
>events that American athletes are likely to get gold medals. In addition, 
>TripleCast has always repeated ,from time to time, those events or medal
>ceremonies involeve American gold medalists only.

Wrong!  Perhaps (possible) gold medals may have figured in basic sports 
selection, but I believe the selections were based on those sports likely to 
attract an audience.  Sorry, but there's still that bottom line.

However, how then do you justify coverage of those track/field events where 
American athletes have next to no chance of winning?  The walking events 
immediately come to mind here.

And Triplecast showed almost every medal ceremony if it appeared live.  For 
example, the swimming finals went something like this: event final, B final, 
medal ceremony, then onto the next event.  Perhaps you getting angry at the 
"highlights" segments shown between events or the studio updates?  If so, 
recall this is an American production that used the world feed.

>Where are Soccer, Badminton , Table Tennis , Field Hockey......... ? ?

I know triplecast showed soccer matches, as well as finals.  They probably 
had highlights from the rest...

Helena Robinson
htr@world.std.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: Karl Malone, what does he say??
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:49:59 GMT

svalle@diku.dk (Per Laursen) writes:

>Does anyone out there know what Karl Malone mutters to himself, before
>he throws from the line? He seems to be pretty consequent about it...

It's little known, but what Karl is actually doing is recalculating how 
much he is getting paid PER free throw.  Note that it took him considerably 
less time to go through the arithmetic during the Olympics.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc,rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.brazil
From: mariof@sco.COM (Mario Faria)
Subject: Re: POOR TRIPLECAST
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:51:06 GMT


The Top Five Reasons you liked the Triplecast :


1) You work for the NBC sports department and they sent you to Spain to 
cover the Games.

2) You own some NBC stocks and shares and you are afraid the prices will
falldown pretty soon.

3) You are one of the people who had the idea to create the Triplecast.

4) You ordered the Triplecast and you are not being sincere to tell you 
regreted it.

5) You have a satellite dish at home and never bothered in watching 
the Triplecast, not even pay for it.



Mario

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc,rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.brazil
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: POOR TRIPLECAST
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 06:01:17 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <Bsvxpv.23M@world.std.com> htr@world.std.com (Helena T Robinson) writes:
>Wrong!  Perhaps (possible) gold medals may have figured in basic sports 
>selection, but I believe the selections were based on those sports likely to 
>attract an audience.  Sorry, but there's still that bottom line.

(In my best Ed McMahon voice)- You are correct, ma'am.

Events like Gymnastics, Basketball, Track and Boxing got Top Billing on
the Triplecast. Other events that NBC figured whould be popular in the
US (because of the number of participants in them) were things like
Equestrian events, Bicycling and Soccer.

Its my guess, from all that I've seen and heard, that people that ordered
the Triplecast did so more for these 'lesser' events- events that they knew
wouldn't be shown on the regular (free) boradcast), than for the marquee
events. The exception, I believe, being the Track and Field (Athletics)
competition.

r.
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From: yoda@soda.Berkeley.EDU (Sean Yoda Rouse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc,ba.sports,ba.market.misc
Subject: Re: Lithuanian basketball shirts?
Date: 17 Aug 1992 18:00:08 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
Summary: Available through the Warriors...

In article <92223.092656ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Brett Rogers) writes:
>Derek says:
>>
>>I'm expanding my search out of rec.music.gdead -- does anyone know where
>>I can get one of the wild tie-dyed Lithuanian basketball shirts donated
>>by the Grateful Dead?  Someone on TV mentioned that they were distributed
>>around the Bay area to raise money; anyone seen one?
>>

According to the Sunday Examininer (8/16), the Golden State Warriors
will be ordering a run of Lithuanian Basketball shirts.  The cost
per shirt will be $30 with shirts available in Large and Extra-large.

For more info, the article stated that you should call
510-638-6300x505.

I have not called, as I am in Phoenix today.
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
Subject: Re: Karl Malone, what does he say??
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:30:13 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

svalle@diku.dk (Per Laursen) writes:
: Does anyone out there know what Karl Malone mutters to himself, before
: he throws from the line? He seems to be pretty consequent about it...
: 
: If this is common knowledge, please forgive an ignorant Dane for asking.
: 
: -- Per

I was told that he thanks his mother and prays for her.

---Sree
From: svalle@diku.dk (Per Laursen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
Subject: Karl Malone, what does he say??
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:18:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

Does anyone out there know what Karl Malone mutters to himself, before
he throws from the line? He seems to be pretty consequent about it...

If this is common knowledge, please forgive an ignorant Dane for asking.

-- Per
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: merklin@rtsg.mot.com (Teresa B. Merklin)
Subject: Re: Indiana graduation rate
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:05:40 GMT

J.J.Clyde writes:
>Teresa (me) Merklin writes:
>>
>>1) I have posted this before, I will post it again. I challenge any school
>>to compare graduation rates of students who remain at school 4 years with 
>>those of athletes. Most people who drop out of school do so after their
>>freshman year rather than after their senior year.
>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Yeah, its hard to justify dropping out AFTER your senior year after
>you've already got that darn degree.

You missed my point. Not after they graduated, but rather after they completed
4-5 years of school. I believe that athletic graduation rates are falsely
inflated due to the fact that athletes who attend school on scholarship 4-5
years are compared with the student body in general, most of whom drop 
out after 1-2 years of school.

Teresa
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From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Matthew a secret Aggie?
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:09:35 GMT
	<1992Aug11.125018.10085@cci632.cci.com> <55654@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>
	<Bsvy72.280@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
	<matthew.713650404@base.cs.ucla.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <matthew.713650404@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
}} 
}} More germaine to the topic - speaking as someone who was, to coin a phrase,

Matthew, what's with this recent spate of spelling mistakes?  Are you
applying to the Goober School behind our backs?

You should know, then, that as CEO of BWI, I had a meeting with Goober
Smith, President of the GSfC (no, not Goddard Space Flight Center).
We're concerned about the program that produced Roy Navarre:  we can't
find any record of it, but we can't believe he could have achieved
near-divine standards of Clueless Weeniedom without training.  Such a
training regimen could put both of us out of business.

We suspect he is really the by-product of some cruel KGB experiment in
the 1960's.

}} Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
                The effect of his affected accent affected her,
                   and effected a change in her affections.

             "Home is the place where, when you have to go there,
                          They have to take you in."
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Clemson's NCAA response
From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:37:01 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Vitro Corporation

In article <1992Aug16.142743.29024@hubcap.clemson.edu>
grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Percy) writes:

>Because of violations committed by the football team, Clemson was on
>probation when some of these violations took place, so the basketball
>program faces the "Death Penalty."  I understand that the investigators
>are not recommending this penalty for Clemson due to the particular
>nature of the violations,  but the Enforcement Committee is a loose canon
>and may impose the death penalty anyway.
>
>Mike Percy             | grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu  | I don't know about
>Sr. Systems Analyst    | mspercy@clemson.clemson.edu | your brain, but mine
>Info. Sys. Development | mspercy@clemson.BITNET      | is really...bossy.
>Clemson University     | (803) 656-3780              | (Laurie Anderson)
>

As I said before, Maryland was penalized with two years of probation (exclusion
from tournament) and one year of no TV for comparitively minor violations
(essentially driving Rudy Archer to class at University College when he was not
officially enrolled at College Park, giving Alonzo Mourning and some other
recruit free sweatshirts, and something called "lack of institutional
control"). Maryland had never been on NCAA probation (for a major program)
before these violations. The school cooperated, conducted its own
investigation, and instituted its own punishments. Yet, the NCAA whacked 'em
across the head. The lesson? Don't cooperate. If they can't prove anything,
they can't impose penalties. I've seen it before, but I'm not naming schools to
prevent a massive flame war.

This is not to suggest that I'm rooting for Clemson to get the death penalty; I
think it would be terrible for the conference as well as the school. But it
sure would be nice if penalties were applied consistenly!

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