HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: acc4636@tamuts.tamu.edu (Anthony Chi-Hwa Chen)
Subject: Forsale: Polk speakers, carver amp, heart rate monitor 
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:23:11 GMT

Forsale:
	Carver M-500t power amp 250 Watts/Channel.  This amp has
	rackhandles and two analog, lit power peters on the front panel.
        $350

	Polk Audio Monitor 10B speakers with stands and 20 feet of monster
	cable.	$350.

	Polar Heart rate monitor.  Chest unit measures heart rate
	and sends data to a wrist unit display.  Can set target
	heart range so that the unit beeps if the rate is too
	high or too low.  Only used once.  This is great for
	bicyclists, joggers etc.  $115

	Chess computer, rating is above 2000.  $75

	E-mail this account or call 776-6207 if you are interested.

	


Newsgroups: tx.forsale
From: st1gh@rosie.uh.edu (Yang, Hsiang-Yu)
Subject: 1984 VW scirocco
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:32:00 GMT

I have a 84 VW SCIROCCO in very good condition.  New ac from factory cost
over $1000 and a rebuilt engine for less then a month.

It has a Alpine pull out stereo and JBL speakers

I have to sell it because graduating and have to move on. I would like 
to get $2200 for it if anyone interest in it without the system,
or I will take an offer with the stereo.

Please e-mail me, thanks

Ralph
From: vinj@natinst.com (Vineet Jain)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: FOR SALE: loaded 486/33, 16Meg RAM, 213MB hard drive, SVGA ****
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:00:05 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com

I have a 486/33 computer for sale in the following configuration:

	o  OPTI write back chipset, 256k Cache, INTEL 486 DX 33 chip
           ^^^^                     ^^^^              ^^^^^^^^^
	o  213MB hard drive (Maxtor 7213A), 15ms access time, IDE
        o  16 MB ram (4 4Meg 70ns SIMMS)
           ^^^^^^^^^^
        o  TEACH 1.44M 3 1/4 inch drive
        o  TEACH 1.2M  5 1/4 inch drive
        o  Baby AT tower case with digital display
        o  Tseng lab ET-4000 SVGA card, with color chip
                     ^^^^^^^
           (runs 60-70 % faster than trident SVGA cards)
        o  Goldstar 14" SVGA monitor 1024x768
        o  I can install windows 3.1, norton utilities 6.0, brief, etc....
        o  101 keyboard, and mouse       
        o  I/O card, 2 serial ports, and 1 parallel port

everything above is brand new, and comes with a 1 year warranty. I have shopped around quite a bit, and these are bought at the lowest wholesale prices. I am going to make 10% on this deal. I'll also guarantee that you will not be able to get a better deal on this system.  Other configuration are also available. 
This system has 16 MB of RAM, and will run windows NT...

I'm asking 2150 ( plus shipping) for the above system, different configuarations are available

You can contact me at (512) 795-6812
                      (512) 343-0998

or send me email at vinj@natinst.com
From: tdm7695@tamsun.tamu.edu (Thomas Moriarty)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: For Sale: VAX C Manuals
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:24:10 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas A&M University


      For Sale:      VAX   C   3.0    Manuals (February 1989)
                                      Excellent Condition

                      Guide to VAX C
                      VAX C Run-Time Library Reference Manual
                         (Both published by Digital Equipment Corp.) 

      Price: $40.00  (Original Cost was $140.00)

      Contact: Tom Moriarty    tdm7695@tamsun.tamu.edu
               (409) 846-9506

      
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From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale,tamu.forsale,dfw.forsale
Subject: 386-33 w/8megs RAM for SALE or TRADE
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:37:17 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas

Hello. I have the following for sale or trade:

386-33 motherboard with CPU
64k cache
OPTI chipset
6 16-bit slots
2 8-bit slots

8megs of 80ns SIMMS

I will sell both of these for $500

OR

I will trade all of the above for 16megs of SIMMS in the form of
4X9 70ns SIMMS. (ie, 4 - 4meg 70ns SIMMS)

OR

I will trade all of the above for 8megs of SIMMS in the form of
4X9 80ns SIMMS. (ie, 2 - 4meg 80ns SIMMS) + $200.


Please reply if you would like to talk about it.
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From: phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: The latest government attack on PR
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:39:13 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand


> My real worry is that the supporters of the status quo are telling people who
> want to retain the present system to vote for Preferential voting. This would
> be a disaster. If the PR vote is split between MMP and STV, but the
> conservatives support PV en masse, then we will have no choice at all next
> year.

One answer is to get voters thinking that SM is the one to vote for if you
don't want change.  Split the anti-change vote!  Quite easily done, too, thanks
to the govt speading $2.6million on an advertising campaign to confuse voters.

By the way, don't expect a simple FPP vs whatever-wins-this-time; if the turn
out is deemed "low" enough by the politicians, one rumoured plan of attack is
to have FPP vs a combination of upper house and PR, with a 75% vote required
for a change to occur from next year's referendum.

Mark Aitchison, University of Canty.
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: The latest government attack on PR
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:37:47 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <Bu8IA9.2IB@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Ewan.Tempero@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Ewan Tempero) writes:

> According to the news, the National party
> have promised to remove the Maori seats if MMP gets in
> (no mention of the other options). Their promise to keep
> the Maori seats until the Maori say otherwise doesn't
> apply here; that promise only applies to FPP.

Yup, saw this also, and I'm feeling just a little irritated at their petty
attempt at blackmail. On the one hand they say the referendum isn't binding,
on the other they say they'll have to drop their support for the Maori seats
if the support for proportional representation proves too great.

The latest Listener has an article by Jack Vowles in it. He talks a little
about STV versus MMP. His argument is that STV supporters should vote for MMP
for now. The idea is to build up overwhelming support for change now, and
you can always argue about the relative benefits of the two systems in 1993,
when the final decision is being taken.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: WCC Notices - feedback required
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 23:50:38 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

23:40:27
15-Sep-1992

For about the last month, I have been posting copies of notices
inserted into the daily newspapers into NEWS. This is not a hard
process as they are transmitted electronically from user
Departments of Council to the papers via an Advertising agency.

Most advert placers in council have been intrigued with the idea 
of their adverts being placed in a widely accessable Network and
would be interested in how much use these notices are. 

Please provide feedback by answering the following short
questions. A simple yes/no will be fine. This is just an
informal feedback check.

1. The Notices are a nuisance ?

2. I find them useful ?

3. I find them informative ?

4. I would like to see more Council information released this 
    way ?
    
5. What sort of information would be of use to you ?

6. Would you like to be able to send email to senior Council
    Officers ?

7. Would you like to be able to send email to Mayor Belich and
    Councillors ?
    
8. If email to Senior Officers, the Mayor and Councillors was
    available, would it encourage you to participate more in
    Council business, activities or decision-making processes
    (eg the budget) ?
    
Any other comments ?

Thank you

Richard Naylor
Manager IT
Wellington City Council

ps - If you too want to send your ads to the papers via email,
please mail me for directions. It applies to corporate accounts
only - sorry.



--
rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor ) 
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: dev2@inform.co.nz (Michael Seales)
Subject: Queen to get pay cut! Great!
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:48:22 GMT
Organization: InForm Group Ltd.

I saw a headline in today's Dominion - QUEEN READY TO TAKE PAY CUT, SAYS MP's

It is speculated her pay will be cut from 7.9 to 6.5 million pounds, and she
may have to pay tax.

The photo it shows of the Queen in the paper is one of her laughing, I've never
seen such a happy photo of her in all my life. What a load of crap! If I had
a paycut of over 1 million pounds, I would not be laughing. 

Mike
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Newsgroups: nz.general,wgtn.chat,soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: SIS Scandal, covered up!!!
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:13:31 GMT
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand

In article <BuA4Dq.9t5@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Mark Penney
(Mark.Penney@comp.vuw.ac.nz) writes:

> Newsgroups: nz.general,wgtn.chat,soc.culture.new-zealand
> Path: comp.vuw.ac.nz!willy
> From: J. Bloggs <jbloggs@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
> Nntp-Posting-Host: cantina.comp.vuw.ac.nz
> Originator: mpenney@cantina.comp.vuw.ac.nz
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nice anonymous post there, Mark :-)

Nat.
(gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz)
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Sister School Wanted
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 21:51:05 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

21:50:39
14-Sep-1992

from KIDSNET.....

Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:01:36 GMT
From: circle@tenet.EDU (Lynn Circle)
Subject: Sister School Wanted!

	The JTPA Project Excel class at Deady Middle School in Houston,
Texas is looking for a sister-school class with whom to exchange regular
correspondence.

	We are an inner-city school, and the Project Excel's population
reflects the schools as a whole:  predominantly Hispanic, levened by
students of Oriental, African, and European extraction.

	My students are all between the ages of 14-16, and most are
beginning the 8th grade this year.

	Ideally we will match with a school in as different an environment
as ours if possible (rural and from another country) -- but I suspect the
students would enjoy the exercise just as much if you were located across
the city from us (while I, personally, would prefer across the world, such
as a school in Africa, Australian, New Zealand, Japan, Taiwan, or some
other exotic location.)

	If you are interested, please write me through Kidsnet or E-Mail
-- And a good school year to us all!



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rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf returns...
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:57:22 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Sep7.091835.10634@waikato.ac.nz> by ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University):

> still looking for a *good* science fiction series...

    Something called "Babylon 5" got some hype recently.
--
*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: Ewan.Tempero@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Ewan Tempero)
Subject: The latest government attack on PR
Reply-To: Ewan.Tempero@comp.vuw.ac.nz
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:49:20 GMT


Obviously the government as getting just a bit worried about
the referendum. According to the news, the National party
have promised to remove the Maori seats if MMP gets in
(no mention of the other options). Their promise to keep
the Maori seats until the Maori say otherwise doesn't 
apply here; that promise only applies to FPP. This announcement
will no doubt have the effect of turning move people against 
PR (although I suspect that the Maori may end up better represented
under PR)
growl!

--ewan
-- 
e-mail:	ewan@comp.vuw.ac.nz	Post: Department of Computer Science
Phone:	+64 4 471 5328 x8069	      Victoria University of Wellington
Fax:	+64 4 495 5232		      P.O. Box 600, Wellington, New Zealand
Conjecture: 1+1=1 (plus a small constant)
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Disposal of Abandoned Vehicles
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:47:26 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

23:47:03
14-Sep-1992
                        WELLINGTON CITY COUNCIL
                                   
           NOTICE OF PROPOSED DISPOSAL OF ABANDONED VEHICLES
                                   
Notice is hereby given pursuant to Local Government Act 1974, section 
356, that a number of vehicles are offered for sale by tender.

Details of vehicles available can be obtained from 3rd floor Anvil 
House, 138 Wakefield St or by telephoning 801-3564.

Tenders close 4pm Friday >25 September 1992 with the General Manager, 
Environment Division, P O Box 2199, Wellington.  The highest, or any 
tender not necessarily accepted.  Minimum acceptable tender $40.00 plus 
12.5% GST.  Tenders will be decided on Monday >28 September 1992.


A A Aburn
General Manager
Environment Division




--
rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Notice of Intention to Stop Road
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 23:39:14 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

23:38:55
15-Sep-1992

                 THE WELLINGTON CITY COUNCIL
               NOTICE OF INTENTION TO STOP ROAD

The Wellington City Council proposes under the provisions of 
Section 342 of The Local Government Act 1974 to stop a portion 
of road known as Essex Street, described in the schedule 
below.

A copy of the plan showing the portion of the road to be 
stopped is available for public inspection during normal 
office hours free of charge in the offices of the Manager, 
Survey and Land Information Services, 2rd floor, Civic 
Administration Building, 101 Wakefield Street, Wellington.

Persons wishing to object to the proposal should lodge their 
objections in writing with the Manager, Survey and Land 
Information Services, Wellington City Council, P O Box 2199, 
Wellington, on or before the 29th day of October 1992 .

                           SCHEDULE

ALL THAT parcel of land containing 434 square metres more or 
less, Shown as area "A" on Survey Office Plan 36888, 
( No 2 Essex Street ) and adjoining No 4 Essex Street and No 
11 Devon Street, being Lot 16 on Deposited Plan 676 
(CT 13C/599), and Part Lot 19 on Deposited Plan 676 
(CT D4/1019) respectively.

                            
                       ANGELA C GRIFFIN
                       CHIEF EXECUTIVE

Explanation:

The above described road to be stopped is part of a section of 
land originally acquired by Council for roading purposes.  The 
land contains a residential dwelling.  Council no longer 
requires all of the land for roading purposes, it is therefore 
Council's intention to stop the portion of road no longer 
required and dispose of it should the road stopping process 
be successful.



--
rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor ) 
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: Mark.Penney@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Chopper Boy! ( Mark Penney ))
Subject: Poetic Justice!
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:12:59 GMT


In the Dominion this morning:

 'A Wellington robber must have felt bruised and sore yesterday
  after his would-be victim turned out to be a black-belt in karate'

  ...

 '...he was approached by the robber, who hit him in the ribs,
  punched him on the jaw, and demanded the leather jacket he was
  wearing.  But the man used his 12 years of karate training to
  sidekick the robber "Bruce Lee-style" in the stomach before
  punching him twice in the head...'


Also the "victim" was walking his dogs at the time, and one of the
dogs attached itself to the robbers leg, sending him "yelping"
down the road!   :-)


 'Though police were treating the icident as an attempted robbery
  they were amused that, for a change, the victim had escaped unscathed
  while the robber ended up with "quite nasty injuries".


Now this is the sort of news report I like to read!  :-)
I bet that 'robber' felt a right idiot!!!!

Mark.
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: The latest government attack on PR
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:54:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.191635.1875@gaya.gp.co.nz> mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:
> In article <1992Sep8.143747.10682@waikato.ac.nz>, ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:
> > The latest Listener has an article by Jack Vowles in it. He talks a little
> > about STV versus MMP. His argument is that STV supporters should vote for MMP
> > for now. The idea is to build up overwhelming support for change now, and
> > you can always argue about the relative benefits of the two systems in 1993,
> > when the final decision is being taken.
> 
> I thought that the 1993 referendum was going to be FFP vs highest-polling 1992 
> option. We are not likely to get a chance at MMP vs STV again.
> 
> > 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Martin D. Hunt	The opinions expressed above are mine, and mine alone, and
> Wellington	do not imply any endorsement by anyone I work for or know.
> New Zealand	USEnet at home : martinh@gaya.gp.co.nz
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Martin.......whatever the merits of STV, it isn't going to be the highest
polling option. Votes for STV will simply detract from support for MMP. If you
want PR instead of the present system, then MMP must be your choice. 
 
STV will never been run off against anything. MMP has a 3 to 1 lead over STV
in the polls - a gap too big to bridge. STV is only there to sap support for
MMP and make the reform vote appear to be fragmented and indecisive.
 
Vote for STV if you really must. It will definitely be the only chance you
will ever have to do so.
 
My real worry is that the supporters of the status quo are telling people who
want to rtain the present system to vote for Preferential voting. This would
be a disaster. If the PR vote is split between MMP and STV, but the
conservatives support PV en masse, then we will have no choice at all next
year.
 
MMp is the only way to go if you *really* want change. Voting for STV is an
empty gesture. Whatever STVs merits - it isn't going to win. 

This is one first-past-the-post vote where a protest vote is truly as waste.
 
Steve
-- 
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Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for the Mixed-Member Proportional 
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            | (MMP) voting system on Sept. 19th. 
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | Give yourself a vote that *counts*!
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Newsgroups: nz.general,aus.general,nj.general,alt.znet.fnet
Subject: Re: alt.ZNET
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:33:22 Y
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS
Keywords: what RFD???

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl) writes:

> znet@status.gen.nz writes:
> 
> > We have over this weekend placed over 200 messages in the news
> > group alt.znet.fnet relating from things like Bob Brodie (from


I forgot to point out that on systems where the groups must be either
created manually, or approved by the sysadmin ( such as this site),
those 200+ messages would have ended up in either the junkpile or
the bit-bucket.

One or two messages is one thing to retrieve, 200 is quite another.
Have a little bit of common sense when playing around with usenet
areas - give admins a chance to sort things out before posting masses
of messages.



dogbowl at The Dawghaus BBS  ( +64 6 357-9245 )
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: alt.ZNET
Summary: never arrived
Keywords: what RFD???
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:50:07 Y
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS

clear@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Charlie Lear) writes:

> In article <2u6uqB4w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogb
> >> old story of no-one wanting it so it is not going ahead.
> >> What we have done is placed all the news in a ALT group instead. 
> >You have my support for creating a znet distribution, but as things stand
> >it is possible that many systems may not carry the group.
> 
> That was precisely the point I made in email to Jon, except I was nowhere
> near as polite about it.
> 
> I had already politely informed him of the correct procedures to follow for
> the creation of a new newsgroup.  That advice was obviously ignored, and
> all he's done is scuttle the group's chances of being successfully newgrouped
> Not every admin bothers looking in their junk newsgroup to see what's there,
> and locally addgroups orphans...

As it happened, the newgroup never arrived on my system, and neither have
any of the postings.
They were filtered out 2 steps up the chain from my site due to the name not
falling under any group heirarchy that was let through.
The upshot is that, effectively, those 200 initial postings are worse than
on the junkpile - they are completely and utterly irretrievable.

If these problems are cropping up in NZ, what chance does the heirarchy stand
outside the country, if it is even leaving these shores?



dogbowl at The Dawghaus BBS  ( +64 6 357-9245 )
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: The latest government attack on PR
From: mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:16:35 +1200
Organization: Wellington, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep8.143747.10682@waikato.ac.nz>, ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:
> The latest Listener has an article by Jack Vowles in it. He talks a little
> about STV versus MMP. His argument is that STV supporters should vote for MMP
> for now. The idea is to build up overwhelming support for change now, and
> you can always argue about the relative benefits of the two systems in 1993,
> when the final decision is being taken.

I thought that the 1993 referendum was going to be FFP vs highest-polling 1992 
option. We are not likely to get a chance at MMP vs STV again.

> 
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Wellington	do not imply any endorsement by anyone I work for or know.
New Zealand	USEnet at home : martinh@gaya.gp.co.nz
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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: lesley@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Lesley Walker)
Subject: Re: The latest government attack on PR
Organization: The Cave MegaBBS, Public Access Usenet, Wellington, NZ
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 11:38:08 GMT

Ewan.Tempero@comp.vuw.ac.nz writes:
>
>growl!

I'll second that growl.  The bastards!

Although I hardly suppose we can expect any better of them.


-- 
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        lesley@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz                      Vote for MMP!
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