From: cza@troy.cc.bellcore.com ()
Subject: Re: Continuation on CYPRUS, ENOSIS, EOKA, PALIKARIA
Keywords: The king of the paliks
Organization: BCR, NJ-USA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 06:47:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.181444.8396@en.ecn.purdue.edu> baysan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Okan Baysan) writes:
>In article <BzJCJ0.Ey3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:
>>
>> Yes, we know. It is so noble for the Turks to kill and rape and perform
>> ethnic cleansing.  Everything that suits turkish dreams is noble.  
>>
>> Hypocrite !!
>
>Liar! Turks have never attempted ethnic cleansing in Cyprus, bozo! It was
>the palikaria Greek junta and its palikaria Greek Cypriot cheerleaders who 
>attempted to ethnically cleanse the Turkish Cypriots and remove them 
>from the map of Cyprus between 1963 and 1974. 
>Just try to swallow the independent Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus
>fact, and get back into your cage. 
>
>Cheers,
>Okan Baysan
>
>
>
Mr. baysan personal attacts are not the way to handle
paliks; especially this king of the paliks.  He is suffering 
from the rabies and as always in the delirious state to utter 
those things.  The only panacea is to give the facts
straight without getting personnal with any palik who
claims the ethnic cleansing done by Turks in the island.
For example, you can remind them that tomorrow (December 21) is 
the 28 anniversary of the bloody Xmas.  The day that more than 200 
Turkish Cypriots were mutulated by these peace loving and
equality conscious Greek Cypriots' fathers/grandfathers
in 1964.  The day that 103 Turkish villages were ransaked and
wiped out by the EOKA from the Cyprus map.  Their
tactics 28 years later are copied by the Serbs in Bosnia.

They may tell those stories to someone who is young enough
to belive.  People like me who is old enough to see the horror 
of 1964 massacres from the pictures on the newspapers
will just laugh to those ethnic cleansing claims by
Greeks.  Yes, there was an ethnic cleansing attemmpts in
Cyprus.  Not once but twice by the Greeks.  At the first one, mother
Turkiye had to watch like today she is watching the Bosnian
killing fields.  The second one was in 1974 and Turkiye showed
what was capable of doing to those paliks who thought she
would watch again. I had many friends and family members who fought this
war.  Their story was quite different from those phonies
who claim the ethnic cleansing here.  After the news
broken that Turkish army was landed at the North, most
of the towns were autamatically evacuated by the Greeks while 
Turks were moving to South.  Greeks left their breakfast tables
and move to south by whatever means.  Many soldier freinds
of mine said that the towns were empty and the main
streets were jammed by the abondon cars to block the
Turkish army move.  Some of those cars were still running.  There was 
no cleansing to speak about by Turks for 200000 refugees.  
Easy came easy went after sucking the blood of the Turkish
Cypriots even denying them to built houses or other
establishment on their very own land.  The local authorities were so 
scared like any guilty mind that imagines the possibilty to be asked
their accountability in that island's mess have left their houses 
and abandon all their possessions.  So left the rest of
the town as mass histeria.  Some who stayed behind wanted to go 
back to south and exchanged with the Turks in the south later.
This is how one can arrive to this 200,000 refugees from the
North.  These phonies are trying to make up stories like ethnic 
cleansing without looking their own shameful past in the island.  
The majority of these 200000 even did not see any Turkish
soldier before start running but have enough imagination to make up 
stories,   When some of them will learn that the war is an 
uncontrollable event once it starts.
In the heat of the moment, soldiers commit attrocities in every war;
especially after seen the other side's attrocities.  Although some of 
the paliks were escaping to south in 1974, they
could not help but committed dispicable attrocities on the Turkish
villages on their way.  So, there is no exception to any country's or 
nation's army as far as sporadic war attrocities are concerned in 
their past wars.  I will not claim here that all Turkish solders have 
acted as exampilar soldiers in this war although I have no doubt 99% of
them had properly fullfiled their duties as human beings.  Comparing 
Turkish soldiers to today's Serbian savages is just a palik smear.
However the joke is on them.  The total GC casualty is about couple 
of thousand (around 5-6) while there were about 2,000 Turkish casulties.
Greeks claim that there are 1615 missing people.  But they convinietly 
forget 5-6 days that Sampson were doing a job on Makarios supportors.
I am sure a couple of EOKA hudlums (say around 50 or so) who were never
panished because of their crimes in 1964 and other incidents were sought
by Turkish army quitely with the help of Turkish Cypriots.  They must 
have been fed the hungry Mediterenian sharks deservedly as serving the 
overly due justice.  Of course, the Turkish goverment will never agree 
openly on just what I said above for obvious reasons.  So, I will buy 
those stories that Greeks had one or two pictures showing the
Turkish soldiers rounded up a couple of GC who were nver
turn up again.  But making 1615 people dissappear cannot 
be comprehended by any norm in one week or so.  I think
the only people accountable for the majority of these
people is Sampson himself.  He knows those people's whereabouts.

Like Israel never agrees Arafat's reperesentation of Palasteninas, 
Greeks are trying to smear Denktas always to get away with their own 
crimes.  The problem that Greeks has is their confusion with
Denktas' position with Arafat's.  He has the upper hand in this 
negotiation based on the recent history of Cyprus.  There is no 
equitable solutiun to everybodies satisfaction in Cyprus after all 
those years when the Turkish Cypriots always forced to draw the short 
ended stick.  Greeks cannot get whatever they had before.  This a fact.
Now, the turn of picking the short stick is Greeks' for the all these 
past time's sake as a result of their violent and unjust ventures 
in the island.  Denktas says that Turkish side is willing to pay 
the left over property after the calculation of how much Turkish
property left behind.  However, he says that they have to
give the chance to Turkish side's economy to recover.

Asking the third parties mediation..  I consider this is
another joke.  We all know what the third party mediation
means for Bosnians, Macedonians, Armenians, azeris, etc. etc.  

C. Akgun