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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:43:55 CST
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From:         David Child <U49923@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Button Bars

The Button Cube is published by Software Workshop, Inc., 170 S. Mountain
Way Drive, Suite 114, Orem, Utah 84058.  Phone: (801) 224-6865.
Fax: (801) 224-8121.

I saw a preview on the Computer Chronicles and bought it when I purchased
my upgrade to WPWin 5.2.  I haven't installed it yet, having customized
a couple of the button bars that came prepackaged with the upgrade and
having taken advantage of the popup menu for switching button bars quickly.
The listing on the box says that one can do things that are impossible
from the menu such as "deleting from the insertion point to the end of a
sentence or deleting an entire table.  You'll have instant access to
difficult functions such as inserting bullets."

A friend of mine said she has installed it and that it is compatible
with WPWin 5.2, so I plan to put it on my system soon. (It was developed
before 5.2--with its easier shifting of button bars--was released.)

Egghead Software did not have it when I was purchasing the WPWin
upgrade, but Software Etc. did and at a discount, too.
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From:         Anne Russell <ARUSSELL@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WPWIN vs. DTP

I originally used WP DOS to publish an 8-page newsletter with lots of
graphics. I switched to Pagemaker and am relieved at how much easier it
is to put the newsletter together. Although it was a struggle, I was
able to manipulate WP into creating a good looking newsletter, but the
pain wasn't worth it. Stay with Ventura or try Pagemaker. I found PM
extremely easy to learn and use (I have yet to read the manual although
I did go through the excellent tutorial)
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:13:40 EST
From:         Steven Yoon <BP255002@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Upgrade to WpWin 5.2

Hi,

Perhaps this has been discussed before, but...  Is it worth the price to
upgrade from 5.1?  If so, what additional things does the upgrade provide?
The only thing I can see of value is the print capability.

Steven Yoon
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:26:24 EST
From:         "John D. Harrington" <stump@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject:      Table page breaks

I just created a list as mentioned in the recent WpWin magazine, it
worked well, I never understood before how to do this with the merge commands.
Now that I have a sorted list, I want each group to be on a new page.  I
can't seem to find the equivalent of what a Hard Page does in a regular
document.  Can I break up the table this way?  Or do I have to create
individual tables?

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:51:23 EST
From:         MICHAEL STRANGELOVE <441495@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      Repeating Macros

In wp dos there was the ability to automatically repeat a macro x number
of times.  I cannot find this feature on wp win.  Does it exist?


Michael Strangelove
Department of Religious Studies
University of Ottawa

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From: barreraa@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU (Azael Barrera)
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Subject: Re: WP for Windows and Quattro graphs
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:21:58 GMT
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To the requestor:
Which version of Quattro/QPro are you using? Have you tried QProWin to see if
the problem persists?

A.B.
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From: rwilliam@darwin.helios.nd.edu (richard williams)
Subject: Re: Gram 5 trouble
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:55:29 GMT

In article <C0D27t.8B0@eis.calstate.edu> pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu (Paul MacFarlane) writes:
>I'm using a severely customized keyboard from WpWin 5.1, originally
>derived from the wp5.1 keyboard, but it still didn't show up on the menu. 
>I did not want to change keyboards after all the work to make that one. 
>However, I discovered that one of the button bars supplied with WpWin 5.2
>has a Grammatik button on it, which worked fine despite the different
>keyboard.

I had no trouble getting my customized keyboard to include Grammatik when
I upgraded to WpWin 5.2.  I just told Wp I wanted to edit my keyboard,
and then I did nothing but save it.  The new menu options (e.g. Grammatik)
were automatically added.  I missed the start of this discussion -- did you
not try this, or did it not work?  The complete procedure is documented on
p. 25 of the upgrade manual.

p.s.  Any Email responses to me should use one of the addresses in my sig.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:02:00 EST
From:         "David.Peterson" <18084DEP@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Auto-print filename

In order to create and edit headers that will output date-codes
and/or page numbers, try the menu under LAYOUT, PAGE, HEADER.
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From: feurer@brahms.udel.edu (Gary Alan Feurer)
Subject: Auto-print filename
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:05:15 GMT


How can I get WP for Windows to print the current filename without my
having to type it in?  {SYSTEM}12~ looks like it would do it in
non-Windows versions (though I have not tried it) but that route doesn't
seem to be available in the Windows version.

I want to be able to set up a header that will automatically print the
date, page number, and file name of a document.		--gary


-- 
Gary A. Feurer		    		       Instructional Technology
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From:         Ed Venzke <MNHMS017%SIVM.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      WPWIN vs. DTP

From: Ed Venzke

I am trying to convince some entrenched Nota Bene and Ventura Publisher 2
users of the need to upgrade to software that isn't from the 80's.  I am a
long-time WP user, but not a Windows fan.  Does anyone know how WPWIN
compares to VP 4.0?  We put out a monthly newsletter that includes a lot
of graphics and some tables.  Are there any real advantages to Ventura or
is WPWIN good enough at handling most layout needs?

Respond directly to me (or the net if you really prefer).  Thanks.

Ed Venzke
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:14:00 MST
From:         Sedghog <usv_sedgley@LEWIS.UMT.EDU>
Subject:      WP for Windows and Quattro graphs

I am helping someone who wants to import Quattro graphs into WordPerfect.
When he retrieves the graph into the graphic function in WP, part of the
graph doesn't show up.  This is usually solved by editing the graph and
using the outline function.  Then everything shows up.  This isn't the
main problem - but we would appreciate any information about how to
avoid this extra step.

The main problem is that the quality of the text and the graph, once
they are brought into WP, isn't very good.  I've played with it some myself
and selecting different fonts in Quattro doesn't seem to affect the final
quality.

Actually I should say that we're using Quattro Pro but the same problems
shows up with either Quattro or Quattro Pro.

We've been exporting the graphs with the .pic extension.  We also tried
exporting them with the .pcx extension.  The quality of the text and graph
looks better but there are two problems: 1) the background is black and
we can't figure out how to convert it to a white background and 2) the
bottom part of the graph is cut off.

Has anyone produced a nice quality graph in WP using Quattro output? Thank
you in advance for any help or suggestions.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:54:20 CST
From:         Patty <CS003@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Button Bars

Is there a way to display multiple button bars in WP4WIN 5.2 or do you have to
switch between them?

Patty Crowell                 BITNET: cs003@ukanvm
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From: scst52@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. A.M. Blanchard)
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Subject: A couple of macro questions
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:24:44 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

I am trying to put together a macro to reformat an ASCII markup file (like
PostScript but simpler) and have run into a few problems I can't quite 
figure out from the macro help file:

 * How can I move a highlighted block of text into a variable, something 
   like  "assign variable blocked-text" or otherwise use it in an IF..ELSE
   block?

 * How do I move a block of text (highlighted again) into a separate part
   of the document (or another document) for editing and then put it back
   all under macro control?  (I think this will be easier than trying to
   process the table markup rather than leaving it in place)


Please respond by email to scst52@csc.liv.ac.uk as I seldom read the news

Thanks in advance,


   Andy

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:21:33 -0500
From:         Joseph Zupko <ah238@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      Gravis sound board

Anyone use a Gravis sound board? what is the best sound board out
there for windows?

--
        It may not be today, or tomorrow but the truth will comeout.


 AH238@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU                            --------->>>>>>>>>>JAZ
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Subject: Re: Gram 5 trouble
From: pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu (Paul MacFarlane)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:11:52 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

aa447@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Fr. Tom Cleaton) writes:
> I could not get Gram5 to load from WPWin either.  When I called
> WP they told me that it will not work from WPWin if you are using
> the CUA keyboard, which I was.  When I switched to the WP5.1
> keyboard, Gramm5 showed up fine.

I'm using a severely customized keyboard from WpWin 5.1, originally
derived from the wp5.1 keyboard, but it still didn't show up on the menu. 
I did not want to change keyboards after all the work to make that one. 
However, I discovered that one of the button bars supplied with WpWin 5.2
has a Grammatik button on it, which worked fine despite the different
keyboard.

Paul MacFarlane
Danville, California
pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu
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From: rwilliam@darwin.helios.nd.edu (richard williams)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to WpWin 5.2
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:09:30 GMT

In article <WPWIN-L%93010619193620@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> Steven Yoon <BP255002@BROWNVM.BITNET> writes:
>Hi,
>
>Perhaps this has been discussed before, but...  Is it worth the price to
>upgrade from 5.1?  If so, what additional things does the upgrade provide?
>The only thing I can see of value is the print capability.


Here is a suggestion:  If you have ever encountered a bug in WpWin 5.1,
call up WP and report it.  I did that, and was pleasantly surprised when I
got a free upgrade to WpWin 5.2.  (In fact, I have gotten 3 of them, each to
a slightly different spelling of my address!)  I've always said WP has a
classy organization, and this is further proof of it.
 
But, even if you have to pay, I think the upgrade is worth it.  New features
include
   -- Grammatik grammar checker
   -- Easy switching between button bars
   -- Print portrait and landscape modes in the same document
   -- Ole support

This is just the stuff I have found time to use in the past week.  It also
has Adobe Type manager, several new or improved macros and button bars,
a feature for indexing files, improved file conversions, some sort of
network email feature... all in all, pretty good stuff.  My guess is that
WinWord will still score higher in the evaluations, but 5.2 narrows the
gap, and I'm hoping that by 6.0 Wp has its lead again.  WP has earned
a lot of loyalty from me because of its tech support and customer policies,
and I'm glad to see that my patience with its troubled Windows product is
starting to pay off.

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:01:47 CST
From:         Patty <CS003@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      WPWIN vs. DTP

I don't know about Ventura Publisher, but I am a PageMaker user. And, as for
desktop publishing in WP4WIN, it hasn't quite made it yet. In PageMaker, I can
do a full screen layout and easily click and drag to move and resize text
columns or graphics. Two things that when doing a layout, you do hundreds of
times.
  If you are doing anything like a monthly newsletter, I still think you need
a desktop publishing package--at least at this point in time.

Patty Crowell                 BITNET: cs003@ukanvm
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From: feurer@brahms.udel.edu (Gary Alan Feurer)
Subject: Re: Auto-print filename
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:37:17 GMT

In article <WPWIN-L%93011123044347@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> "David.Peterson" <18084DEP@MSU.BITNET> writes:
=>In order to create and edit headers that will output date-codes
=>and/or page numbers, try the menu under LAYOUT, PAGE, HEADER.

The page and date codes I can do.  It's the filename that I am having
trouble with.

I'll try version 5.2 and see if that helps.  If anyone else has suggestions,
please let me know.					--gary
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From: rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca (Richard Reiner)
Subject: Re: A couple of macro questions
Organization: York University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:28:21 GMT

scst52@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. A.M. Blanchard) writes:

> * How can I move a highlighted block of text into a variable

GetWPData(foo; SelectedText!)

> * How do I move a block of text (highlighted again) into a separate part
>   of the document (or another document) for editing and then put it back
>   all under macro control?

GetWPData(foo; SelectedText!)
[move to somewhere else]
Type(foo)

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From: tyler.kelly@idcbbs.com (Tyler Kelly) 
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Subject: Auto-print filename
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:45:00 GMT
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Reply-To: tyler.kelly@idcbbs.com (Tyler Kelly) 

 GA. I want to be able to set up a header that will automatically print the
 GA. date, page number, and file name of a document.		--gary

I may be wrong, but I don't think that's possible.  There are codes
that print the date and page number, but I don't think there is a
code that prints the file name.  However, I was able to write a macro that
puts the file name into the document.  Would you like a copy of it?

Also, if you have WPWIN 5.2, I believe there is a file name macro that
comes with it.


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From:         LEVITANT@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Button Bars

I think the best approach to multiple button bars is something called
Button Cube that I've seen folks raving about on the Compuserve WordPerfect
Forum.  I think it is a fairly inexpensive add-on.  If I don't see any-
one else with more information post it, I'll check CIS for a source.
Tom
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:06:20 EST
From:         Jim McMahon <JMCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Collaboration on speciation paper

  Dear Ethonetters,
         I am a doctoral student at City Univ of New York seeking
         the help of an animal behavioralist with expertise in
         mating behavior (also seeking the aid of a population
         geneticist experienced in computer modeling). I have already
         completed the manuscript and require collegues with
         expertise in these fields to work on specific areas of
         weakness. Coauthorship is offerred. I have tried finding
         people through personal networks (recommendations) without
         success so I am now trying the electronic network. Here is
         the title and abstract of the manuscript:

         "A Mechanism of Sympatric Transilient Speciation by
          Polycanalization of Female Mating Preference"

          The view that most in not all speciation events occur
          allopatrically has been longstanding dogma in theoretical
          biology. A mechanism for sympatric speciation involving
          changes in the genotype/phenotype frequency of male
          epigamic and female choice traits is investigated using
          quantitative genetic models, and published observations
          from natural and experimental populations. It is argued
          that  under the appropriate conditions two or more epigamic
          mating complexes can become canalized (polycanalization)
          within a single population, leading to the establishment of
          reproductive barriers (and speciation) without the
          necessity of geographic isolation of subpopulations, habitat
          selection, or chromosomal rearrangements.

          Please contact me directly:

          James McMahon
          JMCHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:30:22 PST
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Subject:      stop mail
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He no longer works for US West.

Gary Barnette
System Adminstration
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:49:01 CST
From:         GREENBER@TWSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Zoo Biology

Can someone please tell me who is the present editor of Zoo Biology.
If you have an address I would appreciate that as well.
Thanks,
Gary Greenberg
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:09:49 -0500
From:         Eric James Ewanco <ewanco@MLO.DEC.COM>
Subject:      ``Amazing Pride''?

From this month's Christianity Today (p. 15):

"From revised lyrics to `Amazing Grace' as sung as San Francisco's
notoriously liberal Glide Memorial United Methodist Church:

'Twas guilt that taught my heart to fear,
  And pride my fears relieved;
How precious did that pride appear,
  The hour I first believed!"
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:06:37 CST
From:         Yvette Traylor <YST1@DCCCDBIT.BITNET>
Subject:      Prayer Request for Mattie

Hello Christia,
I have a pretty urgent prayer request here.
Our cousin Mattie is going through some rough times. She has been sick
with something that the Doctors cannot diagnois(sp). She started going
to see other types of doctors, some may call them witch Doctors, I
believe the term my family has used is two-headed people. I don't know
exactly what they are called, but anyway she went to quite a few of
these types of people and they told her that someone had put a hex
(spell) or something like that on her. Well, Mattie really does believe
this, and something is terribly wrong with her now. Yesterday, we were
informed that Mattie started speaking in another voice while talking to
one of my sister-in-laws.  My sister-in-law became very frightened and
ran from away from Mattie.  Mattie has three daughters and no husband,
she stays about 124 miles away from me and the only thing that I know of
that will help her at this point is Jesus. Please pray for our cousin
Mattie, that she will be delivered from her sickness and come to know
Christ.  Thank You All,---Yvette

   Yvette Traylor     "We are His people and the sheep of his pasture."
   Dallas County Community College District             Psalm 100:3
   Computer Programmer/Analyst from Dallas - Texas
"I know worse things about myself that you will ever say about me." Anon
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