From: jdd@wheezer.wustl.edu (John DeHart)
Subject: Re: Torre!  Torre!  Torre!
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:10:15 GMT

In article <BvMGJs.E9o@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter) writes:
>In article <BvG6qA.7L4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks) writes:
>>Get a hold of your seats, folks.  I'm going to say something positive
>>about both Joe Torre and (gasp!) Andres Galarraga's performances this
>>year.  
>>
>>For the first time in 10 tries, a Joe Torre-managed club is going to
>>finish above .500 in the period 1 August-end of season.  The 1991 
>
>For another *10*,  Torre (Tory) lost 10 games at least, by poor
>managing.  Let's see, if we put those 10 games on the other side of the
>column, the Birds would have at least finished 2nd.  And possibly, ...
>1st.
>
>It is time for Torre's departure along with the dead weight of:
>Galarraga, Guerrero, B. Smith, Gedman, DeLeon, Hudler, L. Smith.

Galarraga is definitely gone. But am I the only Cardinal fan that has
this really bad feeling that he is going to explode next year. I know the numbers
say it isn't very likely. Just one of those bad feelings you get sometimes.

Guerrero is also defintely gone. Torre used him as a pinch hitter yesterday
in the season finale to give the fans a chance to say farewell. He wants
to play a couple of more years, but who will take a chance on him?

With all the young pitchers the Cardinals are working on, not much room
for B. Smith.

Not sure about Gedman. He is a favorite on the team. One of those "Chemistry"
guys and we all know how much they are worth. I don't think you would want to 
waste a young catcher from the minors as a backup. Pagnozzi plays a lot of
games (and I think it showed in his late season production, sorry no numbers
to back that up.) so the backup guy doesn't get much work.

DeLeon is long gone, already signed with Philly and then got hurt.

Hudler: With expansion he'll probably end up somewhere.

L. Smith: Worrell has looked very good this year. I'd trade L. Smith
if anyone would take him. His value certainly isn't going to go up
as he gets any older. Another tidbit from yesterday's season finale.
Gedman and Thompson struck out in the 9th with the score 6-3 and
a runner on 3rd (possibly two men on). Mike Shannon and Joe Buck
were commenting on the radio about how it appeared that these two struck 
out intentionally with Lee Smith warming up in the bullpen to give him a 
chance at one more save. Apparrently this save would push him back in to 
the lead for the Rolaids award. Again, is it just me or does this rub other
people the wrong way. Yes, it was the last game of the year, but making
intentional outs just doesn't seem right. (except maybe to speed up 
a game that you are leading, in the rain and want to get into the 5th
before it is called.) Well, anyway he got the save.

Ozzie Smith got several standing ovations as he played possibly his last
game as a Cardinal. Negotiations will continue but Ozzie is going to look
out for Number 1 and Dal Maxvill is going to look out for falling bricks.
There will be some upset fans here in St. Louis if they don't sign him.
I think they should sign him, but how much of that is just wanting to have
him finish his career as a Cardinal is hard to say. Not sure what the 
right Baseball move is. I do think that the right business decision is to
sign him. The fans love him and he does a lot for the community. 

>If Zeile doesn't finally do it in 1993, and Woodson does,  Bye, Bye,
>Zeile.

I should know this, but how old is Woodson?
Brewer and Royer looked really good at the plate at the end of the season.
I think they can each play first or third and Brewer some in the OF.
Brewer looked pretty good at first, Royer struggled a bit in the field.

Well, enough rambling.

John DeHart
jdd@arl.wustl.edu
Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
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