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From: ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake")
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:52:00 GMT

In article <H.mbD4zvhyDPU@harvee.billerica.ma.us> scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us writes:
>anyone have a name for the way a timid or scared cat will slink around with
>the belly less than an inch from the floor?  we call it "needing new shocks".

I just called it "skulking" even though that fine old word has nefarious
overtones.
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|  Didi Pancake         |     "How do you kill mud?"                     |
|  ehp@virginia.edu     |           --Dean Jagger in "X the Unknown"     |
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch)
Subject: Re: Diabetes in cats-blood and urine samples ???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  1 Sep 1992 16:08 EST  

In article <1992Aug28.022113.22156@riscsm.scripps.edu>, collet@scripps.edu (Thomas Collet) writes...
>Is there an easy way to take blood and urine samples from a cat? 

[with two cats in the home]

Um, I haven't tried this and have trouble believing that it would work,
but either the brochure I got from the vet about caring for a diabetic
cat or a cat care book *says* that you can get a urine sample by catching
the cat in the act (sure...) and slipping a bit of plastic wrap between
the cat and the litter (sure...). 


Nancy Piltch            piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland Ohio 44135

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch)
Subject: Re: Diabetes in cats ???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 27 Aug 1992 14:54 EST  

[question on cats developing diabetes]

The short answer: yes. My cat is diabetic, and I know of others. He
was drinking a lot, and consequently urinating a lot. When he was 
tested his blood sugar was about 5 times the feline normal. A complete
blood profile showed other substances were well above normal also,
such as serum albumen. The profile was consistent with diabetes.
(A single high blood sugar reading isn't conclusive but the profile
is pretty convincing.)


>Any comments, hints, personal experiences? BTW, he just went through a ketonic crisis in the pet emergency clinic and I sure hope that this can be brought under proper control soon.

I give PITA (yes, it's an acronym...) an insulin injection every day and
monitor his urine sugar to make sure the dosage is appropriate. I feed
him Hill's w/d only (both canned and dry; dry food always available)  plus 
plenty of water. I also keep a jar of honey available to smear on his lips 
in case of insulin shock, which hasn't happened yet.

I found out about his diabetes in May of this year and his urine sugar
level now has pretty well stabilized. He has become more peppy (he's a
10-year old, so it didn't seem odd that he was slowing a little). 

Getting a urine sample can be a bit tricky. In fact I posted a request for
help here and got several good suggestions. The vet had suggested replacing
his litter box with one containing gravel when I wanted a sample. PITA
didn't like this at all and found other places more to his liking. Other
suggestions (thanks all!) included shredded newspaper and  polystyrene 
peanuts; I wound up actually using just a small amount of regular litter
in a box. This works pretty well and PITA accepts it.

With a diabetic cat you do have an obligation to maintain a consistent
schedule. I board him at the vet any time I go away so that he can
get his insulin, even though I feel bad about having him cooped up for
the duration.  

Nancy Piltch            piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland Ohio 44135
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: 
From: connorm@vax.sonoma.edu (Michelle Connor)
Date: 3 Sep 1992 10:50 PST  
Organization: Sonoma State University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

[ stuff deleted ]

>Time for a net *hug* folks, I just moved here and don't
>have any friends yet.
> 
>M'Linda
> 
> 
>************************************************
>*           - Lonestar -                       *
>*Internet: mlinda@novell.COM                   *
>*UUCP: {ames,sun,apple,amdahl}!novell!mlinda   *
>************************************************

How sad. Have a big *HUG* from me and lots of kitty kisses from Sophie and
Sparky.  

Michelle
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Subject: Re: HELP: my cat doesn't like human males
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:48:07 GMT

Help me too!
    Bali doesn't like human males either!  When I took my boyfriend
into my bedroom I closed the door so we could have a little privacy.
My cat was scratching and howling at the door, so I let him in,
thinking foolishly that he would leave us alone and go sleep somewhere. 
He positioned himself between my boyfriend and myself and refused to
budge.  When removed, he would go between us.
    If we watched television on the couch Bali would come in and
just stare at us from a distance, very disapproving.  If my boyfriend
touched him Bali would flinch or cringe and trot away. It's safe to
assume Bali's a neutered male.  This is turning out like Colette's
story "The Cat."
    If any self-styled cat psychologist could help provide ideas
to teach Bali that men who pay attention to his mommy are not all
bad (he might have to live with one one day!), I would be grateful.

Christina O'Sullivan
Bali's Mommy
.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Food for FUS cats
From: kristen@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Kristen McQuillin)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:09:52 GMT
Organization: Telerama

According to my vet (who specializes in cats), Iams and Science Diet
are good substitutes for the prescription foods. Alpo is the only
commercial canned food with low magnesium. She told me that .05% Mg
was the upper limit that my cat should have in his diet. Apparently,
lots of low ash foods (she especially warned me away from Hill's low
ash dry food) are still high in Mg, so check them out before you buy
them.

Good luck to your sister and her cat.
From: peggys@orca.wv.tek.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: "Killing" Socks
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:42:53 GMT
Reply-To: peggys@orca.wv.tek.com
Organization: Network Displays Manufacturing, Tektronix,Inc

My boyfriends cat, Smokey, has this thing about dragging his socks, clean or
dirty, out of his bedroom and into the living room.  She typically does this
when he is gone, and then when he gets home she gets praised for being such a
good kitty and "killing" socks for him.  Well, for the first time in over a
year, we came back to find MY socks in the living room, and she had gone into
the bathroom to get them which I've never known her to do.  And she did both of
them too.  I was beside myself, I was so flattered.  I wonder if this means 
she accepts me now...:}


					Peggy

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: a paranoid little cat
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 04:03:15 GMT

larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Paul Larsen) writes:
: We have had a problem with our 2 year old cat the past few weeks.
: She has been extremely skittish.  Any little noise seems to frighten
: her.  She jumps, the fur raises on her back, and her tail puffs up.
: We can't think of anything that could be causing this.  Do cats go
: through phases like this?  She's not a lap cat by any means, but she
: does need to be where the people are.  Any suggestions or thoughts
: on this problem?
: 
I'm not a psychologist and I don't play one on t.v., but I think my
cat Christopher used to be a paranoid schizophrenic, from what little
I've heard about that mental illness. He's much healthier and happier
now, but he used to get paranoid frequently. For instance, he would
flinch when I reached for him. (I have NEVER struck him for any 
reason, and as far as I know, he was not abused before I got him.
I got him to do what I wanted him to do by ONLY using positive
reinforcement with him, since yelling at him only made him worse.)

He also would walk around the house howling, sounding for all the
world as though he had lost his best friend.  I never did figure 
out what was going on with him during those times.

Anyway, it appeared to me that he might have been hallucinating at
times when he acted the most paranoid.  I wonder if this is what is
going on with your cat.  Alternatively, perhaps she is just having
episodes of hypersensitivity. Of course, maybe she is seeing ghosts
or other things that you can't see, and she is wondering why you
are not alarmed!


Kathy
From: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Declawing question
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:57:58 GMT
Reply-To: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Organization: Group 101, MIT Lincoln Lab.
Originator: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)


   Following along on this thread...I just brought our two cats to the vet
today to get them declawed (furniture destruction finally outweighed my
resistance to doing it).  My vet stated that she uses a technique involving
a small incision and carves out the nail, claiming that it is far superior
to the traditional (and repulsive to me) technique of chopping the toe at
the joint.

   Anyone else hear of this technique???

-- 
Dr. Marty Ryba             |	Generation X:
Group 101 - Radars 'R Us   |
MIT Lincoln Laboratory     |  Too young to be cynical,
ryba@ll.mit.edu            |		too old to be optimistic.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: The real reason for that flat tire...
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:47:50 GMT

das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) writes:
: Seen in my headlights as I was driving home tonight:  a small orange
: and white cat very earnestly sharpening its claws on the tire of a
: parked car.
: 
Somehow, this seems like poetic justice of a sort, considering the number
of cats killed by cars. It sounds funny happening to other people's cars!


Kathy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Re: How do I keep neighbors cat from killin
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:37:43 GMT

Depending on how much you want to invest in feeding the birds you could
mount the feeder on a tall post away from trees and fences and put one
of those upside down cone arrangements at the top of the post just
under the feeder.  That way the cat can't climb the post and the cone,
if wide enough, should keep him from leaping for the top.  It would
probably have to be at least 6 feet up.  I saw arrangements like this
when I was visiting back in the midwest.


Good luck.
---
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Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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Organization: Business Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:17:08 -0400 
From: Diane Gibson <dg0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cat Names...
 Bali's pseudonyms: Tex (& Edna), Itchy (& Scratchy), Bali-boy, Stupid,
	<cosulliv.714850493@sfu.ca>
Distribution: na

On the subject of cat names, wasn't it T.S. Elliott who wrote about
cat's having many names.  I often think of that as my dear little Suki
has "given me" a nickname for her.  I started calling her "Doodle Bug",
out of the blue one day.  I have no idea where it came from or why I
started calling her that, but it stuck.  I have to assume it is the name
SHE wants me to use (yes, she is a wierd cat and would like a name like
that.....)

Diane and Suki Doodle Bug
Carnegie Mellon University
From: feldman@flash.crd.ge.com (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:52:55 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

I keep extra throw rugs under the litter boxes to protect the carpet.  My cats
sometimes like to sit on the rugs that cover the rug!  I think it is related
to the "on" or "in" phenomenon.  Possibly sitting on a piece of paper is
similar to "in" because they are inside a boudary.  Roxy also likes to sit
on the bathrobe which is on the blanket which is on the bed (which is on
the floor).  What a lovely way to nest.

Sandy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: r1156c@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael R. Dow)
Subject:  Looking for pet odor remover/neutralizer. 
Reply-To: r1156c@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael R. Dow)
Organization: David Mitchell & Associates - Austin
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:31:46 GMT

	Ok... So, after Vincent is done marking a spot repeatedly, how do I 	
remove the odor?  I can use something like 'Simple Solution', but I want
vincent's odor *GONE*....

	Chemicals?  Solvents?  Fire?



--
Michael R. Dow
-N1JCX-
(...insert disclaimer...)
From: v087mxgb@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Shawn E Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: fake peeing & blockages
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


sorry this got mixed up and sent around the world before 
I finally got it posted. I wrote this in response to 
someone's posting about fake/troubled urination...

> Danger! Danger!  (arms flailing, head bobbing, lights flashing,etc)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> My cat did this also, and *did* have a urinary blockage caused by 
> low quality dry cat food. Coouldn't pee for over a day, but god
> knows he tried. I rushed him to the animal hospital. He's ok
> now, but to re-iterate the advice: 
> 
> watch him closely, you may fell his lower abdomen gently for
> an bloating or tenderness. If their is *any* sign (especially
> of tenderness) and he has trouble urinating run (don't walk)
> him to the vet or hospital.
> 
> 
> This very likely can lead to bladder rupture and (possibly
> painful) death!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> good luck
> 
> 
> Shawn E. Thompson                         | Project Engineer/Mgr  (716)891-3375
> v087mxgb@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu             | Leica, Incorporated
> University @ Buffalo                      | PO Box 123
> Graduate School of Mechanical Engineering | Buffalo, NY 14240-0123
> ------------------------------------------+-----------------------------------
> "Nothin ever grows in this rotten old hole, and everthing is stunted and lost..
> and nothin really rocks n nothin really rolls and nothin's ever worth the cost"
From: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Meowin' like a baby
Date: 24 Aug 92 03:26:27 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu

In article <l95f8vINN93f@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> andrewr@ultrix.EBay.Sun.COM (Andy  
Roach) writes:
> We just picked up a pair of Siamese, one female sealpoint and a male
> bluepoint (8 weeks old). The male will cry until you pick him up, upon
> which he will purr his heart out.

One of our two feline friends, Pyewacket (a.k.a. the lovable Pest
From Hell), is probably part Siamese or Oriental ancestry.

She also cries/vocalizes incessantly when she needs food, 
attention, playing with.  One of our nicknames for her is
Babycat.

--cheryl
From: kristen@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Kristen McQuillin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Problem with Feline
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:00:34 GMT
Organization: Telerama

I have lived with two cats who attack with no visible warnings while
being petted.

One, Pip, a spayed female, seems to be ticklish on her sides. As long
as you avoid them, she is lovable (until she decides she's had enough
petting and hisses at you and runs away. Pip is a strange cat.).

My other attacker is Eliot, a neutered male. I can't figure out what
it is with him. There doesn't _seem_ to be a touchy spot where he
might be ticklish. But who knows?

I have come to believe that is is just part of cats' personalities to
be inscrutable! Some are inscruable in testier (and more painful) ways
than others...
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: *****What breed is this? was PLEASE ADVISE*****
	<crystal.715207608@glia>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:47:52 -0500

In <crystal.715207608@glia>, Crystal writes:
>
>He may look *similar* to a known breed, but to call him such would not be
>correct.  Veterinarians often err in this respect.  They have been known to
>give breed names to cats that were nothing at all like the breed itself.


i have a stray of unknown breeding who looks a lot(but not exactly) like a
maine coon.  while it is inaccurate to call him a maine coon, i do call him
a "maine coon-type".  i'm reasonably sure another of my cats is part persian,
and part not-persian; i call her a "persian mix".  these are useful phrases 
for describing non-purebreds that resemble a particular breed.

( i also have 2 siamese mixes and a just plain shorthair mutt)
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jpotter@stsci.edu (Jeffrey J. Potter)
Subject: UPDATE: Pregnant Manx
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:50:55 GMT

Hi all!

Just wanted to let everyone know that Blue (the once abused manx) has finally
had her kittens. Four of them to be exact!  Blue and the kittens are doing fine.
I can't wait 'til they are running around the house.

Take Care!


-- 
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Jeffrey J. Potter  |  Space Telescope Science Institute  |  CAUTION:
jpotter@stsci.edu  |          Baltimore Maryland         |  Work in progress! 
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: *****PLEASE ADVISE- NEW CAT PROBLEMS*****
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:56:32 GMT

keller@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
: I need advise from anyone who has brought a new cat into a home that has
: already been claimed by another cat.
: 
: I found a stray a while ago, and if no-one answers my flyers, I would like
: to keep "Bob". The only problem is Madeline, our existing cat.
: Maddy is a female, not fixed and has all her claws. Bob is a big male, no 
: claws, neutered. Madeline has no idea what to make if this intruder.
: 
: She is getting better about it, but has been hesitant about letting my
: husband or myself pet her, and she's usually quite friendly.
: She follows Bob around and hisses at him every chance she gets.
: 
: Bob has been a gentleman, hasn't made any agressive move towards Maddy,
: eats his own food (shares a litter box) and avoids Maddy for the most part.
: I'm just wondering how long it will be before Maddy gets used to this male.
: 
: They have frequent mock fights wherein they paw furiously at the air in front
: of each other, no-one lands a hit. 
: 
: What can I do to help Maddys acclamation to this new presence?
: I can't keep Bob if she's going to be constantly upset...
: 

First of all, you say a while ago. How long - 1 week, 1 month, 6 months? It
should make a huge difference. As Kay Klier said (about a different problem)
"tincture of time" will be the best cure for this. My advice is, as long as
no one's getting hurt, leave them alone and they will work it out. The more
you interfere, the longer it will take for them to resolve it, so just let
them have their mock fights. Also, if you jump in, you reward Maddy by 
(in her point of view) siding with her. So she may keep jumping Bob just to
get you to do this. The reality is that they may never become "buddies,"
but in a few weeks to months, they should settle down.


Kathy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: Nutty behavior in the litterbox!
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:16:12 GMT

dovebar@wam.umd.edu (MDB) writes:

] 1)  When he uses his litterbox, he loves to dig both before and after
] he...ummm...uses it.  Afterwards, he's trying to bury whatever he's
] left, but beforehand, what is he trying to do?  Also, we had to get
] him a very large box (the kind with the filterizining cover) because
] he's roughly the size of a miniature horse (well, not quite *that* large).
] Even the large size plastic pan liners I've tried don't do the job - that
] is, they are a bit too small, and he's able to easily dislodge it 
] while he's kicking stuff around.  What results is litter and all
] manner of other things sliding between the liner and the box.
] Should I just use a huge lawn 'n leaf bag or something?

Actually - what I use is a Rubbermaid Storage bin - the clear
kind, about 12"x18"x10" - and a trash-compactor bag.  I, too,
have a champion digger.  She digs forever to make the initial
hole, and then spends a LONG time covering up what she's done,
AND what anyone else had done...

Just keep the nails trimmed so he doesn't shred the box liner.
Johnny Cat (I think) makes some heavy-duty (2 or 2.5 ml) thick
liners with draw-strings for the extra large box - I use those
with the hooded boxes.

] 2) He loves to stretch on the carpet in our apartment, which of
] course results in little ripping sounds.  There isn't necessarily
] any obvious damage, but he has ripped up one small section of
] carpet directly outside the bedroom door (generally when he's
] trying to wake me up for feeding time).  Would getting him
] a scratching post really help, or will he ignore it?  
] 
Try getting a piece of carpet remnant and put it over the 
area he's scratching.  Since he'll be able to get at BOTH
sides of the carpet, he should love it.  I took the throw
rug away from my door (it needs to be laundered - if even
THAT will help), and rolled it up - and the cats sleep on
it, scratch on it, etc - and leave the rest of the place
alone.

Diana
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: New Cat, Old Cat - Help!
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:58:36 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug25.182819.16112@rchland.ibm.com>, jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
> 
>   My problem relates to the fact that my fragile 13 year-old "Precious"
> and flakey 1 year-old "Max" are not getting along well.  Precious just
> joined us and is comfortable with me, but is quite nervous around Max.
> Max, on the other hand, has decided that Precious is a chew toy.  What
> can I do to keep Max from hurting Precious?
> 
> BTW-Max is huge compared to Precious, and smarter than Dan Quayle!

I know rocks with a higher IQ than certain VPs... ;-)

Seriously, I'd separate them except when you're there to supervise.
Max is probably really just playing, but Precious is too dignified to
put up with these kitten games, and also outweighed.  I'd praise
Max if he grooms Precious, and keep the squirt bottle handy to stop
other behaviors... Max will learn.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats