HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: honig@thalia.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: The Great Fungus
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, Dept. of Info. & Comp. Sci.
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:42:40 GMT

 msm@vpnet.chi.il.us (Matthew S. Minogue) writes:
>
>Recently CNN posted a brief report from the Upper Pennensula of Mich.,
>about a large, 10,000 year old, 34-acre large fungus that someone had
>chanced upon.
>
>Does anyone have any information?
>Has anyone eaten it?
>


I read about this in the la times.  What was reported was that the
mycelium (in the ground) over a large area was found to be genetically
identical ---thus one organism.

Most of a mushroom is below the ground, as tiny fibers, what you
eat is the genitals.

--
David A. Honig

"Oh, a vegetarian, eh?  Well, at my house, even the plants eat meat."
From: SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Psylocybin content
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:19:11 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


   Can anyone fill me in on the psylocybin content in the "roots" (mycelia?)
of psylocybin mushrooms? Is there any at all?
Just curious...
From: mt@mahler.media-lab.media.mit.edu (Michael Travers)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Hofmann Foundation
Date: 12 Apr 92 06:21:48 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

In article <8APR199200495733@romeo.caltech.edu> joelong@romeo.caltech.edu (Long, Joseph Louis) writes:


   Does anyone know anything about the Hoffman Foundation?

From their bulletin:

"The purpose of the Albert Hoffman Foundation is to establish a library
and world information center dedicated to the scientific study of
human consciousness.  Our unique library, art gallery, and conference
center houses an extensive collection of books, journals, research
reports, and art."

They have a catalog of psychedelic drug-related (excuse me,
consciousness-related) books and videos, an irregularly published
newsletter, and a bboard (the previous poster's number was not what I
have, which is 310-315-0484, 1200/2400 baud, I haven't verified that
it works myself).

They seem worth supporting (despite my belief that the overuse of the
word "consciousness" induces a lack of it).  Membership is $30 for
normal people, $15 for students, and they will gladly accept more.

The Albert Hoffman Foundation
1725 21st Street
Santa Monica, CA 90401
(310) 281-8110
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
From: baillod@sparky.eecs.umich.edu (Brad Baillod)
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:03:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.171817.12178@bradley.bradley.edu> dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
>I'm surprised the racists haven't decided to jump on the bandwagon.  Here
>[...]
>what they're getting now.  Legalization would put blacks back on the bottom
>rung of the income ladder.

Oh boy... considering the groups you're posting to, I hope you've got your
asbestos suit on...

-- 
Brad Baillod						baillod@eecs.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
From: amywoman@camelot.bradley.edu (Amy Harris)
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:35:55 GMT

In <komarimf.703257488@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Mark Komarinski) writes:

>That statement is racist and true at the same time.  While saying that 
>black males are the biggest drug dealers is racist (and probably false anyway)
>It is true that making drugs legal would take a lot of money from 
>the illegal sale of them.  Competition would force them to lower their 
>prices, and therefore their profits.  Look at prohibition.  During that
>time you had many people who illegally sold alcohol and could sell it
>at whatever price they wanted, giving them a *large* profit.  When it 
>ended, everyone was selling alcohol based on the supply/demand scale.
>These people had to lower their prices and all their profits went down
>the tubes.
>Keep in mind that this is *not* a reason for drugs to be legalized.  I'm
>just trying to make a point about economics. :)


I don't think that most drug dealers are black, like I guess you are
saying.  And it's also true that legalization would lower the prices
of drugs and greatly harm the business of those who sell them illegally
now.  It's still fallacious to say that because of this legalization 
will significantly harm the economic status of blacks as race, however.
It will harm the economic status of drugs dealers, some of whom happen
to be black.  

________________________________________________________________________
amywoman@camelot.bradley.edu

			Eldrad must live.
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:7621 talk.politics.drugs:2910
From: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: WARNING ! Hot New Drug of Abuse
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:16:41 -0500

In article <1992Apr12.160712.27287@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, cmcgav@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christine B. McGavran) writes:
> jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
> 
>>A local TV station located in West Palm Beach FL. (WFLX) reported in a
>>news broadcast just a couple of day ago that there was a new and dangerous
>>mind-altering substance being abused by the Jr. and Sr. High school students
>>there. This fearsome substance was ... get this ... AIR ! Apparently, the
>>practice of hyperventilation is now in vogue. It makes you tingly and
>>dizzy and, best of all, is FREE. No doubt there are urine tests for air
>>abuse though which may dampen the current high spirits. No word on whether
>>the local police have identified any air dealers as of yet - but in Florida,
>>dealing intoxicants within 1000 feet of a school zone is a mandatory-
>>sentence felony. 

> [ text deleted ]
> a couple of years later, my biology teacher had us do experiments with 
> hyperventilating and holding our breaths.  i wonder if he'd be arrested for 
> his teaching methods? *grin*
> 
> -sneetch

	Ya know ... I was just having fun with this story [ yes, it's real
	and not an 'april-foolie ] and making a little satire around it. 
	However, someone who was really *good* at writing satire could
	use this story to put a real hurt on the WOD. The mindless alarmism,
	the holy-doctrine of non-mood-alteration, the absolute lunacy
	of fingering air as a drug ... this is all perfect material for
	the right writer. Perhaps a nine-panel comic-cartoon thing that
	would fit on a page of paper ? Satire has always been an extremely
	powerful weapon against tyranny and holier-than-thou attitudes. 

	By exaggerating the air angle, inserting it into all the standard
	WOD propaganda rather than cocaine or reefer ... the depth of WODs
	abberation might be made far more obvious to a lot more people than
	would be reached by any dry technical report or a political speech.

	There was quite a lot of drug satire and 'dope-comix' done in the
	late 60's. Perhaps it is time to plagarize just a bit and update
	this fine farce so it fits the 90's situation. 

-- Jim : Standard Disclaimers
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: alt.head?
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 19:54:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

At first I didn't like this idea but it is becoming more and more
appealing.  How would we go about accomplishing this?  Who controls
the alt.* groups and what is required to vote in a new one?  I have 
another I wish to put up for consideration.

BTW I don' really like alt.heads but that's just a matter of taste. I'd
prefer something like alt.altered or alt.perception or some such that
won't drive away the more conservative folks who might drop in and find
an interest.

Peace,

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: jprice@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (James Price)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Kesey's back!
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:29:08 GMT

rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>will love it.  I visited his spread in La Honda a couple times in the
>mid sixties when Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead were the house
>band on weekends and based on what I saw decided to move my pregnant
>wife and new daughter out here to be part of it.  When I got here they
>were gone.  He still began the "long strange trip" for me.

>Bob
>-- 
>Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

>"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
>                                                    Victoria Roberts

  Wow, im impressed! Ive heard apocryphical stories that he used to
pull out a copy of the Urantia Book and read selections to the Pranksters...
who knows, could be...  too cool....

James
Net: jprice@jove.cs.pdx.edu       "Justice is incidental to law and order."
Globe: 45 31 25 N 122 40 30 W                          - J. Edgar Hoover
Unity not uniformity | NBC = GE   "Reading musses up my mind." - Henry Ford
From: v116hgth@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Julie A Darmody)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: You All Suck
Keywords: Penis, phallus
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:11:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41









Drugs are killing are children!!!!! How can you possibly want them legal?????



You must be truly sick.

--jules

e-mail replies will be answered 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Subject: Re: The State of Justice in the Puget Sound Region
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 08:30:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <machman.701946121@milton> machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman) writes:
>CRIME OF THE HEART ONLY - Jury acquits couple who held teen
>  drug seller at gunpoint
>
>by Jack Broom, Seattle Times staff reporter
>
>Saturday, March 28, 1992 -- Page One, banner article.  
>Reprinted from the Seattle Times without permission.
>
>		     -----------------
>
>An Auburn couple who held a teenage boy at gunpoint because he sold
>drugs to their daughter was acquitted of assault charges yesterday
>by jurors who said they didn't approve of the couple's action, but
>didn't consider it criminal.

It's sad to see that a King County jury could condone vigilante
excesses, but remember that King extends far beyond the city limits
so it's not unlikely they got an atypically conservative jury.  I
doubt you'd ever get this verdict in Seattle proper.  Please note
that Auburn is a little hick town way south of Seattle, most famous
as the body dumping ground of the Green River Killer.  Because of
the Aryan Nations propaganda there seems to be a growing perception
that the Northwest is some kind of conservative enclave.  Utter
crap.  Western Washington is actually a quite liberal area and the
people are the most open-hearted in the country, including the
supposedly untainted areas of the Midwest.  
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: Re: just a question
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:38:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.081328.13025@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.164638.29650@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, app45293@uxa (ZUSS) writes:
>>  punishment exponentially worse.  When the cops bust up a party in an 
>>  apartment, they usually just chase everyone away
>
>Bust up a party in an apartment???!??  Do you mean that the police
>have a habit of invading people's apartments to stop people having a
>party in the privacy of their own home?  What gives them a power like
>this?

Happens all the time....  (ie., at a party I was at this weekend.)  Fascist,
isn't it?

>>>How about cigarettes, is possession of cigarettes criminal?  How about sex?
>>  This summer I read that it was now a crime in Iowa for minors to smoke
>>  cigarrettes.  THIS IS NOT A LIE.  The cops could actually catch a 16-year
>>  old with a grit in his mouth and take him downtown and book 'em.
>
>The other day I overheard someone from Chigago talk to a friend of his
>about a think called "curfew" - something about people not allowing to
>be out having a walk out on the streets etc.  Sounded really weird -
>is that really happening in USA?

At least in Colorado, the curfew for those under 18 is 11:00 on weekdays and
2:00 on weekends.  It's just a law to harrass teenagers.  You get ticketted
and have to pay a fine.

-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu

>//Jyrki


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Kesey's back!
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:19:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

A lot of people have emailed me asking who the hell Kesey is so:

Pick up a copy of "The Electric Cool Aid Acid Test" by Tom Wolfe.  It
tells the whole story.  Briefly though Ken Kesey is the man who brought
acid to the west coast.  He was living in an old "beat" cabin complex
near Stanford writing "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" with folks
like Jack Kerouac and Ralph Ginsberg and Neal Cassidy coming and going
and he needed bread so volunteered at the Palo Alto veterans hospital for
some experiments the fed was doing with this new chemical (guess
what) It blew his mind so he copped some while they weren't looking
and took it back to Stanford.  The rest is history.  Read it!  Drop
whatever you are doing and run to the nearest big bookstore. ;-)  You
will love it.  I visited his spread in La Honda a couple times in the
mid sixties when Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead were the house
band on weekends and based on what I saw decided to move my pregnant
wife and new daughter out here to be part of it.  When I got here they
were gone.  He still began the "long strange trip" for me.

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Subject: Re: Tetracyclione
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:00:39 GMT

Tetracycline ---

I could be off on this.. but this popped in my head... 

>I was wondering if it was good for anything....

Umm... getting rid of acne I believe..

have a happy complexion..
From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: San Pedro (Trichocereus pachonoi)
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:02:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <31623@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Joe T. Ucker       ) writes:
>A few posters have mentioned the cactus Trichocereus pachonoi.
>It's supposed to be as mescaline-filled as peyote, but be a 
>bit milder (perhaps different other alkaloids.)  

I think the alkaloid mix is supposed to be essentially similar to
peyote's.  It's "milder" in that the alkaloid content by weight is
much lower.  You just use more.

>The cactus guides
>I've read have said it's indigenous to South America but a 
>poster I believe has written San Pedro is indigenous to San Diego.
>I have not been able to find a picture of San Pedro and so I
>don't know if any of the cacti arounf here are San Pedro.

[Looks across the room at Ol' Spiny]

It's a columnar, fast-growing succulent formed of six ridges spaced
around the longitudinal axis.  A cross section of the stalk looks
like a Star of David.  Totally legal, but it's popular enough to be
suspicious to police if you've got a yard full of 'em.  However,
almost no narcs are succulent botanists.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS)
Subject: Re: Who to Vote For?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:41:07 GMT

   For those of you planning to vote for Ren & Stimp out of exasperation,
I don't think we need any more cartoon presidents.  Don't you know that 
cartoons aren't flesh and blood like we?  Why, they're.....puppets!  And
we don't need any more puppet presidents either.
   So if you want to give your vote to someone "way out there," I heard
that Champaign resident Chef Ra (Chef Rasta James? I dunno what's up with
the name)  is running on the Grassroots Party or something like that.

**************************************************************************
Would you mind if we balanced this glass of milk where your visiting friend
accidentally was killed? Would it be OK with you if we wrote a reminder of 
things we'll forget to do today otherwise with this green magic marker, if  
it's all right, on the back of your head? --TMBG
  ******** Tony Pulokas ****** U of Illinois / Urbana-Champaign *********#
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Legality question concerning spores
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:30:31 GMT

: >The spores do not contain psilobin, and therefore are not illegal.
: 
: I understand that some companies sell guns.
: 
: I just don't understand how companies can sell something that might
: be used for illegal purposes.  (can be used in commission of crimes)
: 
: I understand that some companies sell cars.  (can be used in getaways)
: 
: I understand that some companies sell writing instruments and paper.
: (can be used to keep track of illegal transactions)
: 
: Yes, those are not exact analogies.  But it is sometimes a very fine line.

So, just what is your point? There is no "fine line" at all - just because
something can be used illegally is no reason for making it illegal. The
object itself is not going to commit any crime - that requires the active
intervention of a person.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty
From: olson@acf9.nyu.edu (David Olson)
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes piece on the Forfeiture Law
Organization: New York University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:35:53 GMT

russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:
>When all three branches of the government support such a thing, there
>are, unfortunately, just two alternatives

>1) Agitate politically for replacement of the executive and
>legislative branches.  This has already failed, as ALL the candidates
>with a chance to win support this kind of thing.
Or attempt to convince people of their folly.  (Good luck.)

>2) Revolution.

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind people that the constitution
of the state of New Hampshire *explicitly* protects your Right to Revolution.

Meet me there next year when the folks in DC 
"make the trains run on time," so to speak.


david
From: alexc@yang.earlham.edu (Sperminator)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: TV ads
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:39:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: yang.1992Apr8.223902.16839
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

I was gone for a two week break and may have missed something.  I wanted 
to know if the times had been set for the showing of Paul Hager's 
pro-legalization ads on empty-vee (mtv)?  If so, what are the dates and 
times for the first showings of the ads?  or have i already missed the 
premiere?  

alex MADMAN chermside
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mduncan@NeoSoft.com (D. M. Duncan Jr.)
Subject: Re: Once and for all: Vitamin C and LSD
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:46:57 GMT


In article <1992Apr8.162216.28606@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, 
drk20509@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (mighty odin) writes:
 
>mduncan@NeoSoft.com (D. M. Duncan Jr.) writes:
>
>>These bloody FAQs and the WoD are indeed symptoms of a larger problem, 
but
>>the problem isn't fascism, it's ignorance. More people can read now 
than
>>could during the Middle Ages, but the number who are actually literate
>>hasn't changed much. A public that blithely ignores a multi-trillion 
dollar
>>national debt but screams in pain at a few bad personal checks can't 
be
>>expected to reason impersonally about recreational drug use, and those 
of
>>you who hope to casually slip drug legalization onto Congress' to-do 
list
>>should probably do some serious re-thinking. (Here, have a little 
gloom.)
>>
>       ^^^note lack of any helpful information, useful suggestions, or
>otherwise useful information that excludes the author from his self-
made
>criticisms.
>-dwk
 
Note overweening desire to be spoon-fed, proving my point.
 
Those of you playing the home game might want to make a note: if you 
point a problem out, that means you realize it exists. If you actually 
want me to SOLVE the world's ills for you, on the other hand, you'll 
have to insert another quarter.
 
[ She said this was a lesson in love        ]  Mike Duncan
[ She said this was a love to end all loves ]  mduncan@sugar.neosoft.com
[ This soul never listens to me             ]  Ex Nihilo Res Fit
[ This soul has a lot to learn     -- INXS  ]  Ecclesiastes 8:15-17

-- 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.cyberpunk
From: mike@highlite.uucp (Mike Wiik)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality and Hallucinogens
Organization: Gotham Communications Research, Laurel, MD
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:58:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.052220.25539@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (andy) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone out there has ever experienced virtual reality while
>"under the influence" of hallucinogenic drugs (tripping, stoned, or
>what-have-you), or even an empathinogen (or whatever X is called...).  The
>similarities between the acid culture of the 60's and the evolving VR culture
>of the 90's interests me a lot, and I was wondering if anyone has tried
>combining the two yet....
>
>(calling all CyberLeary's!!)

Maybe that should be CyberLilly's, to consider nootropics along with VR
as a 90's version of LSD + sensory-deprivation tanks. It's actually quite
different though: the idea behind SD tanks was to allow the brain to
create it's own stimulation (with the acid assisting), with the VR, the
software provides the environment.

I'm actually much more interested in combining "smart drugs" with VR.
Since the VR presents a way of simulating much more "data" than the 
real world (*), smart drugs maybe the best way to cope.

(*) That's not quite what I meant. No doubt the real world supplies
much more "real" data, it's just that we're used to it and thus ignore
most of it.

BTW I saw _Lawnmower Man_ and yes, it sucked.

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From: EEMA092@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: alt.head?
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:09:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92098.160952EEMA092
Organization: University of Maine System

Ok, how about this- alt.ered.states ?

or, alt.drugs.there ?

a group filled with insanities, no doubt!
and we're never sure what it's about,
someone *there* all the time,
spouting visions and rhyme,
and realities turned inside-on-out!

just me again ... :)