HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle + VOice Mail
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:29:02 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

hho@aludra.usc.edu (** N.T.K.C.D. ***) writes:

> In article <Tak8NB2w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> >tps@jptcs.UUCP (Tim Sailer) writes:
> >
> >> The easiest thing I've found is to get the selective ringing service
> >> from the phone co. for 5.60/mo, and to get one of the boxes that can
> >> differentiate bewteen the rings. (about $90.00) Then you have 2 numbers, 
> >> 1 line, and the caller can get the right device by calling the right numbe
> >dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
> >Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
> 
> Great Idea, I never know that before :-)
> THen someone please tell me what box, where I can get the box to do that? :-)
> THanks..
> H.

Well, not to endorse any specific product, and <disclaimer alert>, no, I'm
not affiliated with any of the following products or companies...

I'm using a "Ring Director - Quad Port," which I purchased on 11/27/91 for
$99.95 directly from the manufacturer:

    Lynx Automation, Inc.
    2100 196th St. SW, Ste. 144
    Lynnwood, WA  98036
    (206) 744-1582
    (206) 744-1444 FAX

Lynx also makes the more common voice/FAX/modem switches, and a two port
version of the Ring Director.  The QuadPort allows one to have as many as
three additional numbers for a single line, subject to availability.  The
local provider here, Southern Bell, only offers two additional numbers.

I also have at my fingertips the Fall/Winter 1991 edition of Home Automation
Laboratories (HAL), a company located here in Atlanta that specializes in
x.10 and other electronics products.  They have the Lynx products, and
something called a "Dr.  Jekyll and Mr. Hyde Two-in-one Phone Splitter."
It's referenced as a "TCI" product in the description... can't say who they
are, as I don't know.

    Home Automation Laboratories
    5500 Highlands Pkwy, Ste. 450
    Smyrna/Atlanta, GA  30082
    (800) HOME-LAB Orders
    (404) 319-6000 Technical assistance
    (404) 438-2835 FAX

For what it's worth, I saved substantial bucks by ordering my RingDirector
directly from Lynx.  Recent federal legislation regarding sales tax for
mail order business may reduce this incentive...

> 
> -- 
> *****************************************************************************
> Hung P. Ho, Jr. (John)     USC DENTISTRY    PH.SYSTEMS          CCCOGP  
>                            hho@usc.edu      hung@phsys.com      hung@cccogp.c


-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Keywords: coherent
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 06:35:48 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

root@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick   ) writes:

> I'm aware of two attempts. Both were aborted. One switched to SCO Unix, the
> other went to OS/2.
>
> Coherent is an excellent training ground for someone who's never seen unix.
> But as a utilitarian OS, it leaves a lot to be desired. I suspect that if
> enough effort, tweaking and replacement of utilities occurred, that someone
> might make a pretty good system of Coherent. The problem is, once done, it
> would still be Coherent.
>
> Better to bite the bullet --if you want true unix-- and go with 386BSD or
> even linux. If you want little customizing and work on the initial install,
> then go with SCO Unix, Interactive, or one of those.
>
> If you're looking for plug and chug, and want to do a couple of things at
> once, then try OS/2, Desqview, or even Windows along with the DOS version
> of Waffle. You can run it in a window just fine.
>
> It all depends on what you want. But I'd suggest against Coherent.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>

Thanks for the input.  A friend is willing to sell me his SCO for cheap, but
I'm hesitant to bring up a unix system without owning a C compiler.

On Compu$pend's Unix forum, the Mark Williams folks are touting Coherent 4.0 as
being competitive with SCO, ISC, etc.  They claim that they're adding
networking to the project, along with some sort of GUI implementation.  One is
definitely left with the impression that they're trying to target the product
as a competitor to SCO, ISC, etc., rather than something less than true 'unix'.
It appears that they have a bit more work to do on that one...



|Edward J. Branley                         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software                                UUCP:  rex!mintir!elendil|
|3508 North Woodlawn Avenue                          Compu$erve: 71237,2227|
|Metairie, LA   70006       voice: +1-504-455-5087     bbs: +1-504-455-8665|
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: NNTP server for DOS?
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 20:19:52 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

I hooked together my bbs system with my development PC (WD ethernet cards in
each), and I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to set up things so that I
can read mail and news on my 486 while the board stays up on the 386.  I've
thought about a peer-to-peer net like Lantastic, but I'm wondering if there's
anything out and about like an NNTP server for DOS that would be compatible
with Waffle, or maybe a way to set up the 486 as a new site, and xfer the uucp
packets via ethernet.

So, I don't see peer-to-peer as a solution, since that means I either cause
problems by two simultaneous copies of Waffle running, or I don't have a clean
way to get to spooled files.  Putting the bbs under some flavor of unix won't
do, because I can't afford one with tcp/ip, and bsd doesn't look very solid.
Besides, half of the fun of this bbs to me is to play with things I don't do
for work, which means I don't want to do Novell or SCO if I can play with
something different.

Any thoughts?  TIA.





>Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us<
>Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087<
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: patrick@actrix.gen.nz (Pat Cain)
Subject: Re: Editors for 1.64
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:48:47 GMT
Keywords: 1.65 GEDIT DOORS

pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Devine) writes:

> We just wrote a system that makes a DORINFO1.DEF file which most online games
> require to play.  Coupled with Door Master, I would imagine you could use
> Waffle and the program to run any online game.
>
> There is only one problem though, Waffle doesn't free up enough memory when
> shelling, because it doesn't swap memory to disk.  Does anyone know if there
> a program, or a patch that will rectify this problem?  It seems pretty silly
> waffle still needs to be resident while using a different program.

I had this problem installing the Door game Pyroto Mountain.  The only
way I got around it was by:

User selects door game..

A C program is run which asks them if they want to logout or return
  to the bbs after the game.  If Return then create a batch file with
  something like "Waffle online username baud"

Waffle logs user out without dropping carrier /bye=DOOR /exit=500

Run.bat catches the error level and runs the door game (which does
  it's own Comm I/O).

When game has finished it returns to run.bat which either chucks
  the user off or logs them back into Waffle.

It's not nice, bit of a hack to run.bat, but it works fine.
-- 
Pat Cain, PO Box 2060, Wellington, NZ  ()  em: cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:55:58 PDT
Organization: Vandenberg Systems Research, Vancouver BC

larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) writes:

> 
> I specify penalties for misusing WFS to discourage cheap twits from
> stealing my work. That's all. The license fee of $17 is cheap.  I
> have a number of licensees who seem to like the product. That is
> satisfaction to me. For my licensees, I attempt to provide
> technical support and bug fixes promptly. To meet my competition,
> specifically V-Mail, I am working on mail-server features now.  My
> existing licensees will get free upgrades, when issued.  The price
> for new licensees of WFS when the new features are released may go
> up.
> 

Mail-server features?  Oh oh...  I guess I'll have to get cracking at
finishing the next version :)

Rick


--
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Vandenberg Systems Research For more information about V-MailServer
Vancouver, BC               send a blank e-mail to
                            vmail-info-request@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: The VOTE Beast
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:43:51 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy) writes:

> First, the basic question:
> 
> Is this message making it off my hard disk and onto yours?

Yes.


-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: steveh@grafex.cupertino.ca.us (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 22:11:37 PDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The GRAFex Company

rick@ssg.com (Rick Emerson) writes:
]...[
 
> Whew!  I'm getting in over my head on this.  I know 386BSD 0.1 is supposed
> to handle TCP/IP but Linux uses something like K9??? which allows support
> for SLIP and some net functions.  There's certainly enough net and socket
> stuff in Linux to do X windows which demand socket support.  

KA9Q
]...[
steve
From: aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: beta10
Date: 24 Jul 92 07:26:38 GMT
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

I just got beta 10 and installed it.  Looks a lot like beta 9, I can't notice 
any differences.  Tom what are the differences?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aaron Anderer, System Operator                aaron@spectrx.saigon.com
SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1 408 252 1005              szebra!spectrx!aaron
From: tonyd@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us (Tony DeBari)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Is there an e-mail gateway for c.b.w?
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 20:13:34 EDT
Organization: Lost In Space

I got some e-mail today from a person in The Netherlands who is interested
in Waffle but apparently has no news access. (Hmm, where'd he get my
address from? :-)  Anyway, he wanted to know if this group had an e-mail
gateway.  I told him I didn't think so but that I'd ask around.

So, I'm askin' around.  Is there an e-mail gateway for comp.bbs.waffle?

Please reply via e-mail to my address; I'll pass along anything I get to
my Dutch friend.  If I get anything other than "no such animal", I'll
summarize and post.

Thanks.

--
Tony DeBari          FQDN: tonyd@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us     CI$: 73117,452
                     UUCP: ...!uunet!ssc60!tonyd      *P*: GHRW14B

"First things first ... but not necessarily in that order" - The Doctor
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Keywords: coherent
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:56:02 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
> >aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System) writes:
> >Well, I'm aware of that, so I guess I'm still wondering if anyone has *done*
> >it.  Coherent isn't a bad idea, since it's a hundred dollar investment, but
> >another $150 for Waffle isn't such a good idea until I can confirm that some
> >has tried it.
>
>
> why pay the 150.00 for Coherent if you can run Linux for free ?
> I posted trivial patches fro compiling Waffle under linux to c.b.w.
> a couple weeks ago?
>
> I also have elm, cnews, tin, etc. running fine...a full featured USENET
> news/mail/uucp system for the price of a couple hours time to set it up.
>
> And fast.........real fast.....
>
>
> --
>           Vince Skahan                                vince@halcyon.com (here)
>     vince@atc.boeing.com (work)                   vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (home)
>

That's a legitimate question.  The marketing hype for Coherent 4.0 makes it an
interesting product.  *If* they continue developing the product, it'll be a
serious competitor to ISC or SCO.  Since I do consulting for a living, that's a
factor to consider.  However, in terms of just running the BBS here at home, I
dunno.  Guess I'll need to also take a serious look at linux.



|Edward J. Branley                         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software                                UUCP:  rex!mintir!elendil|
|3508 North Woodlawn Avenue                          Compu$erve: 71237,2227|
|Metairie, LA   70006       voice: +1-504-455-5087     bbs: +1-504-455-8665|
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Bug with Incoming Calls.
Keywords: dos waffle 165 beta 9
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:48:56 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Waffle BBS, Clive IA USA, +1 515 226 2156

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> I've discovered a bug in Waffle 1.65 beta9 that is really strange:

Not a situation exclusive to b9.

> I've noticed that if a user calls in (after ...Ring...) but *before* 
> carrier is established, if Waffle, at that exact moment, decides to run a 
> cron job (in my case a site poll), it will do so.

I have a DESQview spawn in my cron, and last night it spawned as someone
was calling. Waffle re-inited the modem and hung up on them. I use b10.


--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:42:47 GMT
Reply-To: "Lawrence T. Hardiman" <larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US>
Organization: The Birdsong Company, PO Box 2031, Sunnyvale CA 94087-2031

rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:

> rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg) writes:
> >larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) writes:
> >> To meet my competition,
> >> specifically V-Mail, I am working on mail-server features now. 
> 
> >Mail-server features?  Oh oh...  I guess I'll have to get cracking at
> >finishing the next version :)
> 
> Yikes ... I should go back to DOS and update ASER then :-)
> I am having ( too much ) fun with 'linux' and forgot DOS :-)

OK, gentlemen! Let's have at it!

... And a good time was had by all!

Regards,
  larry.

--
Larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US
From: cybrspc!wwiv!186-6250@cs.umn.edu (Imbellis #186 @6250)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle doesn't like resetting??
Date: 20 Jul 92 14:04:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: cybrspc.960wwcp503

Help. I'm trying to get Waffle v1.64 running, but it seems that all it's 
capable of doing is letting one caller log on, and do whatever, and when that 
person logs off, well it hangs up the phone, fine, and the it sits there with 
that little [Dropping connection] message, but does nothing until I press a 
key. Could somebody explain this?? Ohhh, yeah, I'm available at
imbellis@tfsquad.mn.org

---
Zark off.

Or call Starfleet Command/WAFFLE at 439-8437. Your choice.
From: larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:06:13 GMT
Reply-To: "Lawrence T. Hardiman" <larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US>
Organization: The Birdsong Company, PO Box 2031, Sunnyvale CA 94087-2031

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

> >larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Larry Hardiman) writes:
> >
> >Let's remind all of us, Vince, that you waxed poetic about WFS at
> >release 0.9.4. That you advertized availability of BBSTEVIE via WFS
> >at your site on alt.bbs.waffle several times.
> 
> I certainly did wax poetic about WFS.  It's a nice program that works
> well. I advertised the stuff available at home to get some load on the system
> to see how my system, netwrok connection, and WFS could handle it.
> 
> >Let the world also know that you never registered your use of WFS,
> >nor paid the paltry registration fee either. I can imagine that you
> >have not bothered to reward the author of VMS112 either.
> 
> You are correct that I never registered WFS.  My messing around with it
> to see how/if it works, if my site could handle the load, if my feed site
> was going to complain, etc. didn't seem to make it worthwhile to me at the ti

Ahem! Messing around? Lessee.... I released 0.9.3 sometime in
November of 91. You had it within days. If I recall, you had it up
shortly thereafter. I released 1.1.2 in April 92. Izzat when you
took it down? OK.  Fair enough. If you brought up V-mail-server why
bother to complain now? I don't get it?

May I restate: You do not have to use WFS, good product that it is.
You have your choice between either of my competitiors' products:
ASER or V-Mail. Both are fine pieces of software, no doubt.

Sigh... I tire of this bickering...

Regards,
  larry.

--
Larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: rick@ssg.com (Rick Emerson)
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Organization: System Support Group
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:37:38 GMT

elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:

> root@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick   ) writes:
> 
> > I'm aware of two attempts. Both were aborted. One switched to SCO Unix, the
> > other went to OS/2.
> >
> > Coherent is an excellent training ground for someone who's never seen unix.
> > But as a utilitarian OS, it leaves a lot to be desired. I suspect that if
> > enough effort, tweaking and replacement of utilities occurred, that someone
> > might make a pretty good system of Coherent. The problem is, once done, it
> > would still be Coherent.
> >
> > Better to bite the bullet --if you want true unix-- and go with 386BSD or
> > even linux. If you want little customizing and work on the initial install,
> > then go with SCO Unix, Interactive, or one of those.
> >
> > If you're looking for plug and chug, and want to do a couple of things at
> > once, then try OS/2, Desqview, or even Windows along with the DOS version
> > of Waffle. You can run it in a window just fine.
> >
> > It all depends on what you want. But I'd suggest against Coherent.
> >
> > Just my $0.02.
> >

Amen!
 
> Thanks for the input.  A friend is willing to sell me his SCO for cheap, but
> I'm hesitant to bring up a unix system without owning a C compiler.

Use Linux!
 
> On Compu$pend's Unix forum, the Mark Williams folks are touting Coherent 4.0 
> being competitive with SCO, ISC, etc.  They claim that they're adding
> networking to the project, along with some sort of GUI implementation.  One i
> definitely left with the impression that they're trying to target the product
> as a competitor to SCO, ISC, etc., rather than something less than true 'unix
> It appears that they have a bit more work to do on that one...
> 

Use Linux!  Really.  The mcc and tamu/mcc versions both include the GNU c
and c++ compile, gcc 2.2.2 and the price is the cost of an ftp session.  The
full system with X386 takes up about 20 MB.

Rick


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: freiss@neurotic.sni.de (Martin Freiss)
Subject: Re: PCElm 3.01 and Waffle
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:20:39 GMT

In <3sZ4NB1w164w@pilgrim.UUCP> walsh@pilgrim.UUCP (John P. Walsh) writes:

>In testing PCElm Vers 3.01, I noticed that when I send mail using
>the Alias file, the first line in the mail has a blank space between
>my machine name, and my user-name. This line looks like:
>     From pilgrim.uucp !walsh
>Where should I look in my PCElm/Waffle/RMAIL setup to get rid of
>the blank space? 

You can't get rid of it, it's hardcoded. In the half year that 3.01
is out I haven't heard a single report that this breaks anything
though, so I would suggest to just forget about it :-)
This is fixed in release 3.1, which will be out in late summer.

-Martin

--
 Martin Freiss               | R&D computer center | freiss.pad@sni.de 
 Siemens Nixdorf Infosystems | Dept. STO SI 325    | NIC MF194
"I could have done it in a much more complicated way", said the Red Queen, 
 immensely proud.  -- Lewis Carrol, Alice in Wonderland
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Bug with Incoming Calls.
Keywords: dos waffle 165 beta 9
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:01:37 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066

Hi everyone:

I've discovered a bug in Waffle 1.65 beta9 that is really strange:

I've noticed that if a user calls in (after ...Ring...) but *before* 
carrier is established, if Waffle, at that exact moment, decides to run a 
cron job (in my case a site poll), it will do so.

Since my poll sends initialization commands to the modem, the user in 
question is succintly hung up on without being given the chance to 
establish carrier.

I believe that once a 'Ring' is detected, Waffle should cool its jets for 
awhile and make sure incoming calls are given a chance to succeed (if a 
caller was calling long distance they would have to pay the minimum 
charge because of this).

I realize that the chances of this happening simultaneously aren't very 
high, but they do increase depending on frequency of cron jobs run.

Thanks.

----------------------------------------------------
frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Vicuna Systems BBS - 613/547-5066 [9600 v.32/.42bis]
From: au141@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Amber M. Spillers)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: my _system file doesnot seem to be working, (i.e. news)
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:32:15 GMT
Reply-To: au141@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Amber M. Spillers)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


    I am rather new to waffle and in setting it up I have had great
difficulty getting my commands in the _system file to work.  

    the file is where it is supposed to be in waffle/extern and it is of
the correct format, in fact it is eactly the same as the one distributed
with 1.65B9.  the thing that confuses me is the shell command (also in
the _system file) works properly and i have modified it (to shell to
ndos) so I know that is where waffle is reading for externals.  

    I have also been setting up my feeds and usenet files and I tink
they are set up correctly. *but* I can't join any of the groups, or even
get a list of them from withinn waffle.  I know the groups are empty but
I though I would at least be able to see them from within waffle.

    all in all I think setting up waffle is a lot more difficult than
settin up "other" BBS packages but waffle has a great deal of
configurability that is not present in those "other" packages.  but even
in light of this it seems to be an execlent product and it is supported
on a variety of enviroments.  i am most pleased with it, i think it has
gotten a bad rap from othes because its interface is so similar to unix
and operrating system a bit to "heavy" for the masses....

    Any help at all with these problems or any problems all beginning
waffle sysops have wouild be greatly appreciated.


-- 
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sysop of the Rocky Horror Picture Show BBS 1-618-529-5999 24Hrs
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