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From: hjiwa@gruc19.nor.chevron.com (Jeff Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Regional FAQs?  Volunteers, anyone???
Keywords: FAQ
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:24:13 GMT
Organization: Chevron Petroleum Technology Company

Happy New Year JetNetters!

Just got back from a fabulous 3 weeks in Costa Rica and will write a trip
report and summary of netters' responses when I get some time this month to dig
myself out of a mound of work.  The question I have is related to article
<C0KMF9.6JD@ccu.umanitoba.ca> where lucas@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brian Lucas) asks
about rec.travel FTP sites.  He also states that he and some other Canadians
are building FAQ travel guides for several parts of Canada.  So what I would
like to suggest (sorry if this idea has been kicked around before) is if anyone
would like to volunteer to start up and maintain an FAQ for the city, state,
region, country, etc that they live in.  I'll volunteer to put together a
highly detailed FAQ travel guide on New Orleans if some others are willing to
do likewise for the place they live.  I envision these FAQs to be sort of like
what you can get in the better travel books, _but_ also serve as repositories
of other netters' opinions and experiences.   Unlike the other newsgroups, it
seems like we'll need to maintain many of these FAQ travel guides.  Comments or
volunteers, anyone?  Hurry, before Mardi Gras starts :)

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From: gilbert@esd.dl.nec.com (Russell Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Athens Greece (need advice/insight)
Organization: NEC America, Engineering & Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:58:05 GMT

> cpbuehrer@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu wrote:
>
> I'd like to try to get a job there (to pay for the trip and to pay for rent,
> etc.).  If any of you out there have done this, can you please tell me your
> stories so I can get an idea of what I should and shouldn't do?
>
> If I can get a permanent engineering type job over there, I'd love to stay for
> years!  But somehow I have the feeling I'd never find such employment.  What I
> *do* expect to be able to find is a job teaching english, or a job being a 
> waiter, etc...

I'd suggest looking into working at a hostel.  There are plenty in Athens, look
in some of the travel guides, especially "Let's Go" and "Lonely Planet".  (If
the "Lonely Planet" book isn't out yet, it's coming very soon.)  I think
the usual arrangement is at least a free room, and most likely enough money
to get by on.  They usually hire travellers/tourists, so I don't think you'd
have a problem because you're American.  However, that might be a problem with
other jobs because of the whole deal about taking away jobs from the locals.

Since the number of visitors to Greece will dramatically increase the closer you
get to summer, you'll have a better chance if you go early.  You might even try
writing to a few of them before you go.  One in particular that I remember
having travellers working for them is "Festos".  It's listed in "Let's Go".

It's not quite the same as having your own place, but you'll meet tons of
great people.

Good luck,

Russell     (gilbert@esd.dl.nec.com)
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From: smay@boi.hp.com (Scott Smay)
Subject: Re: Questions on hiking/backpacking in Costa Rica
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:54:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Take the goretex if you'll be spending any time in the highlands. Monteverde,
for example, at around 6000' was downright chilly without the sun. If you
poke around Chirripo or some of the volcanoes, you'll want a real coat.

That was my experience in November 1990.

cheers,
scott
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: proberts@compunet.uucp (Phil Roberts)
Subject: FREEPORT, BAHAMAS
Keywords: BAHAMAS FREEPORT
Organization: CompuNet Systems, Louisville KY (502-231-5908 & 5910)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:01:48 GMT

I will be travelling to Freeport, Bahamas in early February.  Can anyone
tell me what type of weather (rainy, sunny, cloudy, etc.) and what 
temperature I should expect for that time of year?

If you know of any special events going on then please let me know.

Thanks for any and all responses.

-- 
                          ___________________________________
Phil Roberts             |   proberts@compunet.uucp
Louisville, KY           |   proberts@ky-ngnet.army.mil
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From: deitsch@sol.crd.ge.com (Andy Deitsch)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Top of Kilimanjaro (Tanzania)
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:48:19 GMT
Reply-To: deitsch@sol.crd.ge.com
Organization: GE Research & Development

>>I intend to go to Tanzania in order to climb the Kilimanjaro
>>moutain and I'd like to have some pieces of information about
>>it:

>You could also (in 1991) go up the Kenyan side which had much fewer trekkers,
>but also cruder accomodation (but perfectly satisfactory, apparently).

Another fun climb is Mt. Kenya which I did in 1986.  It was also very cold
at the top amazingly only 10 miles from the equator.  The last part of
the hike had to be started at around 2am so that you would arrive at the
summit to watch the sunrise and see Mt. Kilimanjaro above the clouds some
200 miles away!

I was told that the reason you start the last part of the climb in the
dark is because, psycologically if you saw what you were about to climb
you would give up.  On the way back down, looking at what I did climb
was pretty shocking!

Mt. Kenya has 3 summits.  I climbed to Point Lenana which is the only
summit you can climb to without ropes, climbing gear and probably some
experience.  Point Lenana is a little over 16,000 ft.  The entire climb
(from 3000ft), took us through tropical rain forest, low lying trees,
overgrown flowers, rocks to an ice-cap.  In total we spent 4 days climbing
and it was well worth it!

-- 
_________________________________________________________________________
Andy Deitsch                             email    : deitsch@crd.ge.com  
GE Corporate Research & Development      phone    : (518) 387-7207   
Schenectday, NY 12301                    dial comm: 833-7207     
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: nabil@cae.wisc.edu (Nabil Ayoub)
Subject: Re: How To Say "Thank You"
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:10:03 CST

In article <93011.202125LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> Lois White <LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
>In article <C0pqoC.B7u@Novell.COM>, dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb
>Tokarewich) says:
>>
>>
>>I knew "shukran" was correct. What I meant by those question marks was how
>>do you say "thank you very much" in Arabic? I've forgotten.
>>                      ^^^^^^^^^
>One way is "alf shukr" which means 1,000 thanks.

"Shukran Gazeelan" is closer as it literally means "Thanks a lot".
In Arabic speaking countries other than Egypt, it is pronounced
"Shukran Jazeelan".

Salam,

Nabil

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         /  Nabil Ayoub                        ____/   __  /    ____/  /
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       /  Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    ___/    __  /    /      /
      /  University of Wisconsin-Madison    /       /   |    /      /
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From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Subject: Re: How To Say "Thank You"
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:35:53 GMT


Spanish--Gracias; Muchas gracias (Thanks; Thanks a lot)
Italian--Gratzi; Multa (??) Gratzi
Russian--Spasiba; Spasiba balshoy (the "da svedania" in the other post
         means "good-bye"!)
Hebrew--Toda; Toda raba
Arabic--Shukran; ??
From: splee@pd.org (Seng-Poh Lee, Speedy)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: What's a 'white passport' for permanent residents?
Date: 8 Jan 93 04:57:47 GMT
Organization: Public Domain Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I have heard that there is something called a 'white passport' that
the US can issue to US Permanent Residents. 

Does anyone know anything about this? Can it be used for normal travel?
Does it replaces ones own regular passport?

Responses by mail prefered. Thanks

--
Seng-Poh Lee    <splee@pd.org>
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From: "michael hough" <michael.hough@canrem.com>
Subject: spanish courses in s.a.
Reply-To: "michael hough" <michael.hough@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:52:17 EST

Would anyone be able to recommend a Spanish school I South or Central
America?  I seem to do a lot of vacationing down there and I thought
it would be a good idea to spend a month learning some Spanish so
I could say more than "How much" and "Thank you".  I was thinking of
Costa Rica, buy I'm open to other suggestions.

Mike.
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Xref: sparky rec.travel:17229 alt.sport.darts:581
From: mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,alt.sport.darts
Subject: Questions about travel to Europe
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:17:24 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu
Keywords: travel, europe, ireland, england, netherlands

     Okay - my fiance and I are currently planning on going to Europe
in May for two weeks (YEAH -- I KNOW it's not enough time, but he's
got a new job and really doesn't have too much vacation time built up
yet.)  

ANYWAY, I have a few questions

The places we're thinking of going are

Ireland (South Coast)
England (London and the Yorkshire Dales)
The Netherlands 

     Two personal items I'd like to take with me are my Swiss Army
Knife (hey, I know MacGyver never had problems carrying his with him,
but he worked for a government agency) and -- this might be more of a
problem -- my darts (you don't expect me to go all the way over there
and not take my DARTS with me).  Would this possibly be a problem?
Anyone ever travel overseas with darts?

     Okay - next question - the travel agent is trying to talk us into 
going on a prepackaged tour.  On the one hand it might be easier, on
the other hand she may be pushing that because she gets more
commission (what me cynical?)

     OH -- next question - is there anyone reading this that's in The 
Netherlands that might be willing to make a phone call for me to a
museum near Otterlo??

THANKS for any info
--
Square dancers do it groups of 8 -- 
in all positions
  -- Mary Allison

    Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From:  wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm Randolph Franklin)
Subject: Re: How do you get from Bergamo airport to Malpensa airport (Milan)
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:27:40 GMT


In article <10JAN199311223645@summa.tamu.edu> on 10 Jan 1993 11:22 CST,
aps5727@summa.tamu.edu (SANZGIRI, ASHUTOSH PRABHAKAR) writes:

  > Hi, 
  > 
  > I will be flying from London to Bergamo airport (outside Milan), reaching Bergamo at 5:30 pm. 

  There's a bus between Milan Central train station and Malpensa.
  Count on 2 hours since it comes at irregular intervals, despite the
  schedule.  It costs 10kL.  Dunno about Bergamo.

  Cars rented at Malpensa, at least from Budget, have a 10% surcharge,
  over and above the "everything but gas included" price mentioned in
  your reservation.  Also most companies are closed Saturday
  afternoons.  Also Budget (and maybe others) requires thhat you sign
  two blank undated credit card charge slips.  They keep one even after
  you return the car.
-- 
---------------------
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ECSE Dept., 6026 JEC, Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst, Troy NY, 12180 USA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: yatrou@INRS-Telecom.Uquebec.CA (Paul Yatrou)
Subject: Re: Yucatan Info Needed
Keywords: travel, Yucatan, Tulum
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Montreal, Canada.
Date:  5 Jan 93 14:53:30 GMT

In <1ibtkmINNaoe@nigel.msen.com> klm@msen.com (Kenneth Morse) writes:


>Couple, backpacking in the Yucatan, looking for the ultimate beach
>accomodations along the coast between Cancun and Tulum. Please
>respond with recomendations. -- Also looking for recommendations for
>renting a car. 
>-Charlie Haveri

Best bet would be to rent your car in Cancun, but if you don't
want to spend any time in this monstrous god-forsaken place you
can also rent one in Playa del Carmen (about half way between
Cancun and Tulum). I just spent 2 weeks in the area and had a great
time. Stayed 9 days at the Don Armando Cabanas just south of the
Tulum ruins. The cabins are very basic, and the area is very
scenic. The people staying there tend to be travellers/backpackers
from all over the world --- we met some Dutch, British and
Italians and had a great time during Christmas.

If you have a car you can find some excellent accomodations
south of Tulum, on the way to Boca Pailla/ Punta Allen. Don't
remember the names unfortunately. I also spent 5 days in
Playa del Carmen which is much busier than destinations to the south.
The beach 1-2 km north of town is very nice.

If you prefer sand, trees, quiet beaches, heavenly surroundings and
good company to concrete, noise, lots of tourists, etc... stay south of
Playa del Carmen and obviously avoid Cancun.
In terms of prices, you're looking at about 30-50$US
per night for comfortable/luxurious cabins versus about 10-20$US
for more basic accomodations.

Enjoy your trip.
Paul.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Subject: Re: chicago, illinois
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:24:35 GMT

In article <93011.231244X42529@BARILVM.BITNET> Shlomo  
<X42529@BARILVM.BITNET> writes:

> what about John Hancock observatory?

Of course, that's a possibility. I just mentioned the Sears Tower because  
it seems to have more attraction for people...they can say they've been to  
the top of the world's tallest building, etc. But the Hancock is a good  
visit too.
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- SaoTome
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:31:43 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Sao Tome and Principe
============================================================
Sao Tome & Principe
 December 24, 1992

Embassy Location:  There is no U.S. Embassy in Sao Tome and 
Principe.  The U.S. Ambassador in Libreville, Gabon, is accredited 
to Sao Tome and Principe.  The U.S. Embassy in Libreville is located 
on the Boulevard de la Mer.  The mailing address is B.P. 4000, 
Libreville, Gabon.  The telephone is (241) 762003/4 or 743492.

Country Description:  Sao Tome and Principe is a developing island 
nation off the west coast of Africa.  Facilities for tourism are not 
widely available.

Entry Requirements:  A passport and visa are required.  There is no 
charge for tourist or business visas for visits of up to two weeks.  
(This period of time can be extended).  Evidence of yellow fever 
immunization must be submitted.  Further entry information can be 
obtained from the Permanent Mission of Sao Tome and Principe, 801 
Second Avenue, Suite 1504, New York, N.Y. 10017, telephone (212) 
697-4211.

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilities in Sao Tome and Principe 
are limited.  Doctors and hospitals often expect immediate cash 
payment for health care services.  U.S. medical insurance is not 
always valid outside the United States.  Supplemental medical 
insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be useful.  
Information on health matters can be obtained from the Centers for 
Disease Control's international travelers hotline, telephone (404) 
332-4559.

Information on Crime:  Some petty crime occurs.  Useful information 
on safeguarding valuables and protecting personal security while 
traveling abroad is provided in the pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad", 
available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government 
Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strictly enforced.   Convicted offenders can 
expect jail sentences and fines.  

Tips for Travelers:  The Department of State publication "Tips for 
Travelers to Sub-Saharan Africa" is available from the 
Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, 
Washington, D.C. 20402.  It contains general information on travel 
in the area.

Registration:  U.S. citizens who register at the U.S. Embassy in 
Libreville can obtain updated information on travel and security in 
Sao Tome and Principe.  

 No. 92-161


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From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Orlando without Mickey
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:53:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: iecc.9301061353.AA00141
Organization: I.E.C.C.

>>Is there life in Orlando outside of Disney? ...
>   Try airboat rides on a Kissimmee swamp. ...

Hey, that's a good idea.  If you're on the way to the beach or the KSC
anyway, there's a fishing camp in Christmas FL on US 50 (the old road from
Orlando to Titusville) on the St. John's river at the county line which
has pleasant airboat rides.  We saw bald eagles, zillions of alligators,
various mammals, turtles, etc.  The airboat is deafeningly loud so they
provide headphones that cut the noise down to extremely loud.  A
two-year-old who likes animals would enjoy it, but make sure they have a
pair of phones small enough to fit.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
From: jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley)
Subject: Re: What to "not miss" in Las Vegas?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:02:47 GMT

Try Madame Butterfly's place.  Call them and they'll send a limo to
pick you up.  Outstanding service, with excellent selection, leaning
toward oriental.  Very nice.  Expect to pay from US$200 and up, but
well worth it.

Just ask your Hotel concierge for her number.  

                           

Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.backcountry
From: lpanton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lauren C Panton)
Subject: Trip report
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:51:34 GMT

     I wanted to thank everyone who offered suggestions for my 3 day trip 
around Ohio. We went to Red River Gorge and the Natural Bridge Park in Kentucky
to go hiking. Unfortunately we were only at the Bridge for just a day and a 
half due to a late start, but the trip was worth it. The view and hike was 
wonderful! It was different to go there in the winter for we saw a great deal 
of the rock formations that we probably would not have seen during the spring, 
summer, or fall. Also, there were not a lot of people around, which was very 
nice for hiking.  I highly recommend this place to visit. There is also a lodge
at the park and camping for a comfortable place to stay.

                 Lauren
From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Subject: Re: How To Say "Thank You"
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:31:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.163214.14160@doug.cae.wisc.edu> nabil@cae.wisc.edu  
(Nabil Ayoub) writes:
> In article <C0pIJu.15p@Novell.COM> dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM  
(Deb Tokarewich) writes:
> >
> >Spanish--Gracias; Muchas gracias (Thanks; Thanks a lot)
> >Italian--Gratzi; Multa (??) Gratzi
> >Russian--Spasiba; Spasiba balshoy (the "da svedania" in the other post
> >         means "good-bye"!)
> >Hebrew--Toda; Toda raba
> >Arabic--Shukran; ??
> 
> Yes, Shukran is correct.

I knew "shukran" was correct. What I meant by those question marks was how  
do you say "thank you very much" in Arabic? I've forgotten.
                      ^^^^^^^^^
From: dude@losers.hacktic.nl (The Dude)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Setting expectations
Date: 6 Jan 93 07:35:55 GMT
Organisation: black mail inc.

In article <C0C2M3.JMq@apollo.hp.com>, Peter Nelson writes:

NE>   So the question is this:  Do I have the wrong attitude or 
NE>   expectations?   I noticed that some fellow visitors there
NE>   were similarly pissed-off, while others, especially the 
NE>   French who were just as badly bit-up, seemed to accept
NE>   it more philosophically.   What is the right philosophy
NE>   to take when paying $250-$350 a night for a room like that?
NE>   Is there a way to have had our expectations set correctly
NE>   before we left?   
NE> 
NE>   Thanks in advance for any comments.

$250 A NIGHT !?!?!?!? WOooww, for that much money I would've demanded a
palace :-). The most I've ever paid was $55 a night (in Vienna, couldn't
find a cheaper place and was wet & tired). If I were you, I'd book a room
for $100 and spend the rest on other things. But, answering your question:
for $250 or $350 (argh!) you should get a very clean room with lots of
comfort etc etc. If you didn't get it, go and chat a bit with the manager,
haggle a bit, get some money back, etc. etc. In some countries, money can
buy you the best there is in *that* country. So what the people down there
regard as top of the bill, may be just mediocre facilities in the states.

If all that doesn't work, and everything still sucks, then don't become angry
or mad: It just spoils your trip, and there are a lot of people who don't 
even have a house.

      Dude

 "I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet."
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