Newsgroups: bit.listserv.christia
Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:11:46 MST
From:         Madge McBurney <ISPMOM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Jesse a bit miffed 'bout his treatment by some!
              17 Nov 1992 15:35:00 MST from <SKLEPZI@SSB1.SAFF.UTAH.EDU>

I'm posting Steven's message again so that those on bit.listserv.christia
will be able to read this too. (Steven is still have trouble getting his
mail to appear on the different news services).

Christia co-owner   Bitnet:   ispmom@asuacad
Madge McBurney      Internet: ispmom@asuvm.inre.asu.edu
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
And now a word from your listowner:

   On this list serv, if we wish to be polemic ... then let's be so.  If we
   get a bit ruffled and it moves from the CONTENT of someone's polemic
   towards the CHARACTER of the PERSON, themselves, then I think private
   E-mail channels are a bit more appropriate.

po.lem.ic: 1.a. an aggressive attack on or refutation of the opinions or
principles of another  b. the art or practice of disputation or controversy
2. an aggressive controversialist

No, let's not be polemic.  Let's not get ruffled.  Let's start out keeping
personal comments private.  Let's be Spirit led.  Let's look at Jesus'
example in the Bible.  He spoke to people in language and method as was
appropriate.

   Nevertheless, let's remember that we are big boys and girls here. Heaven's
   sake many of us have spouses and children, so were are not 17 year old
   college freshmen, for the most part.  Let's respond accordingly.

Nevertheless let's remember that EVERYONE is at a different point in their
own personal walk with God.  EVERYONE is different in regards to their
personalities, self images, and relationships with others.  We're not all 17
years old, neither are we all championship debaters, able to take on any and
all attacks that might be perceived as personal.  Let's respond accordingly,
let's post with the love of Jesus Christ.  Let's speak the TRUTH certainly,
but speak it in love.

   Gracious, I know that personal disagreements are hard to avoid TOTALLY,
   but if it is pure content, then we can take the "heat".  If it is
   personal, lets take the obvious route of E-mail.

NO!  I don't really care if it's about content or personality, let's not give
"heat".  If it is "heated", review it, edit it, pray over it, send it to the
listowners for review.  If it is personal - take it off Christia.  If you
have personal mail trouble, contact one of the listowners.  We'd be more than
happy to relay mail for you.

   We are here to learn ... we are here to promulgate TRUTH ... we are here
   to GLORIFY Christ, above all else.  We are not here to further "warm
   fuzzies", touchie-feelies, or mere opinions stated as facts.  Truth ALONE
   sets one free.

We are here to discuss items in our lives that help us to live as Christians.
We are here to proclaim Jesus Christ and His saving grace.  We are not here
for personal vendetta's against others.  We are not here to advance any one
particular set of beliefs in Christianity.  We are not here to drive people
from Christ.  We are here to learn and to teach.  Jesus Christ alone sets one
free.

Further questions please ask.

"...it is false piety to preserve peace at the expense of truth.  It is also
false zeal to preserve truth at the expense of charity." - Blaise Pascal

Steven Klepzig (sklepzi@ssb1.saff.utah.edu)
Co-owner - Practical Christian Living (christia@asuacad)
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