From: hho@phakt.usc.edu ("** N.T.K.C.D. ***")
Subject: [ADMIN] Frequently ASKED question About Vietnet/SCV
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:57:03 GMT

   Archive-name: scv-faq
   Version: 3.0
   Last-modified: Aug 1, 1992

   VIETNET INFORMATION FILE
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[i] Note on How to Read the File.
    The information file is organized under headings with markers [xx]. Please
    look at the table of contents and find the marker/subject you need. Then
    use your editor search capability to search that section.
 	eg. Need to know how to interpret the Vietnamese marks?
 		    search for [A3]

[ii] TABLE OF CONTENTS
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   [A0] Frequently Asked Questions About Vietnet/Soc.Culture.Vietnamese
 	[A1] What are the symbols in brackets in the header?
 	[A2] Shouldn't everyone post in english?
 	[A3] How can I write Vietnamese on the computer?
  	[A4] How can I read SCV without access to Usenet?
 	[A5] How can I mail/post to Vietnet/SCV?
   [B0] Vietnet Special Interest Groups/Mailing Lists (SIGS)
  	[B1] Soc.Culture.Vietnamese/Usenet
 	[B2] Viet-Net
 	[B3] Trichlor-Talk
 	[B4] Viet-Std
 	[B5] VN-Jobs
 	[B6] VN-ATNP
 	[B7] VN-SINGLES
 	[B8] VN-SXNET
 	[B9] VN-MATCAT
   [C0] Vietnet Electronic Bulletin Board Systems
 	[C1] PHSYS.COM (Los Angeles, California, USA)
 	[C2] SAIGON.COM (Sunnyvale, California, USA)
   [D0] Vietnamese Archives (Software/Technical Reports)
 	[D1] Listing of Vietnamese Archival Sites
 	[D2] Using Anonymous FTP
 	[D3] Using ftpmail
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[A0] FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT VIETNET/SOC.CULTURE.VIETNAMESE
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  Section A contains the most frequently asked questions about the net.
  Please read through before posting questions on the net.
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[A1] What are the Symbols in Brackets in the Header?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  In order to help the many readers of this list sort the postings and
  read the ones that they are interested in, there is a convention on
  SCV (originally adopted from Viet-Net) of placing a topic header
  as the first part of the Subject: line.  Most readers really
  appreciate having these, so please try to use them.
     Some of the usual ones are:
 	  [LANG]  -- Vietnamese language
 	  [LIT]   -- poems, stories, other literary stuff
 	  [SOC]   -- social postings
 	  [POL]   -- vietnamese politics, refugee politics, & other politics
 	  [TECH]  -- technical postings
 	  [MISC]  -- everything else
 	  [POEM]  -- Poetry
  	  [POEM]  -- Poetry
  	  [MISC]  -- everything else
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[A2] Shouldn't Everyone Post in English?
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  NO. People should write/post in any and all languages that they feel
  comfortable with. One of the goals for SCV is to promote Vietnamese culture
  (including using Vietnamese).
  Also, SCV reaches out all over the world from Australia, New Zealand, to
  US, Canada, and all over Europe. For example, there are netters in France
  who can read/write Vietnamese & French but no English. Also, some netters
  are trying to improve their Vietnamese by reading/writing in Vietnamese.
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[A3] How Can I Write Vietnamese on the Computer?
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Not everyone has workstation to display Vietnamese marks on top of the
  words. The following is a customary way of representing the marks in the
  text. Originated and evolved over the year on Viet-net, there is software
  available that will process these diacritical marks for printing on laser
  and dot matrix, or display on screen.

        sa('c:        '      -+	la'			single quote
        huye^`n:      `       |	ma`			backquote
        ho?i:         ?       |	tu?			question mark
        nga~:         ~       |--- na~ 			tilde
        na(.ng:       .       |	da.			period
        da^'u mu~:    ^      -+	to^
        da^'u a':     a(         a(n uo^'ng
        da^'u mo'c:   u+ o+      tu+ tu+o+?ng
        dde^:         dd         dda? dda?o
        DDe^:         DD         DDa` na(~ng

     diacritical marks always follow the vowels immediately:

 	  ta' tu'c    NOT   t'a t'uc
 	  ta^'n to+'i NOT   ta^n' to+i'     so on .....

     \ (back slash) is the escape character
 	  Ho\.  -  Ho. or Ho with a period, not Ho with da^'u na(.ng
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[A4] How Can I READ Soc.Culture.Vietnamses Without Access to Usenet?
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  For netters who absolutely can't access Usenet and SCV, you can request
  to have SCV articles sent directly to your electronic mailbox.
  Currently, there are 3 computers providing this service.

  To SIGN-ON (or SIGN-OFF) for this service, you need to send a email request
 	     to  scv-request@media.mit.edu
  with the word "SIGN-ON" (or "SIGN-OFF") {lower or upper case} in the
  subject header.

  If you do have direct access to local news reading/posting software, please
  use them instead and reserve this relaying service for those who don't have
  the news privilege.
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[A5] How Can I Mail/Post Message to Vietnet/Soc.Culture.Vietnamese
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  With or without access to USENET, you can mail your message or article to
  one of these addresses. The sites are on Usenet backbone, therefore, your
  message will travel much faster. Be sure to specify a subject.

      soc-culture-vietnamese@berkeley.edu         (Northern California, USA)
      soc-culture-vietnamese@ics.uci.edu          (Southern California, USA)
      soc-culture-vietnamese@media.mit.edu        (East Coast USA)
      soc-culture-vietnamese@haydn.stanford.edu   (Northern California, USA)
      soc-culture-vietnamese@saigon.com		  (Northern California, USA)
  							  (not VN :-))
    Mail messages sent to one of the above addresses will be posted to SCV.
    Please pick the site that is geographically nearest to you.

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[B0] VIETNET SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS/MAILING LISTS (SIGs)
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  In addition to the main SCV, there are many special mailing lists with
  more specialized topics. Please consider joining the work/discussion
  on one of the list below.

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[B1] SOC.CULTURE.VIETNAMESE
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        Address: soc-culture-vietnamese@media.mit.edu
 	         soc-culture-vietnamese@ics.uci.edu
  	Request: Contact your system administrator for access to Usenet
 		 else subscribe to the VietNet Mailing List.

  Soc.Culture.Vietnamese is a newsgroup on Usenet accessible via
  Internet/UUCP nets. Its purpose is to discuss subjects related specific
  to Viet Nam and its culture. It is a public newsgroup that is read/posted
  worldwide by anyone with access to Usenet.
  The newsgroup Soc.Culture.Vietnamese is sometimes abbreviated
  as SCV in postings. Charter and this frequently asked questions are
  posted monthly.

      Questions to: hung@phsys.com or hho@usc.edu

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[B2] VIET-NET
     ~~~~~~~~
     Address: soc-culture-vietnamese@media.mit.edu      (East USA)
 	      soc-culture-vietnamese@ics.uci.edu        (SouthWest USA)
 	      soc-culture-vietnamese@saigon.com         (West USA)
              soc-culture-vietnamese@haydn.stanford.edu (West USA)
              soc-culture-vietnamese@berkeley.edu       (West USA)
     Request: scv-request@media.mit.edu    (with SIGN-ON in subject)
              scv-request@saigon.com       (with SIGN-ON in subject)

  Viet-net was the predecessor of Soc.Culture.Vietnamese. Viet-net had
  served over 800 Vietnamese overseas worldwide for over 4 years, with 4
  servers at mit.edu, bu.edu, uci.edu, and sun.com. On Mar 5, 1992 at
  1am EST, Viet-net was replaced by a more powerful network for Vietnamese
  to connect: Soc.Culture.Vietnamese on Usenet.
  Viet-net is now a network of mail links between mail<-SCV/Usenet for
  netters without access to Usenet. Mail from SCV are forwarded directly to
  your mailbox. If you have access to Usenet, do NOT use Viet-net.  You may
  subscribe to Viet-net to receive mail from SCV.
       Contact: viet-net-info@media.mit.edu

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[B3] TRICHLOR-TALK
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Address: trichlor-talk@haydn.stanford.edu
      Request: trichlor-talk-request@haydn.stanford.edu

  TriChlor is a group of software developers whose common interests are
  providing free utilities, codes, libraries for use with the
  Vietnamese language, and to integrate Vietnamese language to current
  computing environments.
  Trichlor's members are Vietnamese software developers working all over the
  world to develop public domain Vietnamese software with Vietnamse fonts
  for X, News, Microsoft Windows, etc. on Unix, DOS, and Mac platforms, etc..
  Please join TriChlor if you are working on any type of Vietnamese software.
      Questions to: trichlor@haydn.stanford.edu

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[B4] VIET-STD
     ~~~~~~~~
     Address: viet-std@haydn.stanford.edu
     Request: viet-std-request@haydn.stanford.edu

  Viet-Std is a mailing list for computer professionals who are trying to
  ensure that new world wide standards efforts take into account the needs of
  the Vietnamese language and customs. Viet-Std have been very active in
  character set standardization efforts and in creating a "locale" for the
  ANSI/ISO C and IEEE/ISO POSIX standards. It is also working to
  standardize all Vietnamese character codes between VN software houses
  and users.
  Viet-std has just released VISCII and VIQR standards in April 1992..
     Contacts: viet-std@haydn.stanford.edu

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[B5] VN-JOBS
      ~~~~~~~
    Address: vn-jobs@phsys.com or vn-jobs%phsys@cccogp.com
    Request: vn-jobs-info@phsys.com

  In light of the current downfall of the economy, vn-jobs is a mailing list
  devoted to job seekers (fulltime, intern/co-op, contracts etc).
  Please post openings/offers to vn-jobs@phsys.com. The mailing list feeds by
  jobs postings from Usenet/BITNET + head hunters.
     Question to: hung@phsys.com or hho@usc.edu

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[B6] VN-ATNP
     ~~~~~~~
     Address: vn-atnp@saigon.com
     Request: listserv@saigon.com

  This is "A(n Tu.c No'i Phe't". It is a mailing list for people to talk
  about whatever "No'i Phe't". The conversation can get rather racy, risque'
  at times, please use your own discretion in joining.
      Question to: tin@saigon.com

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[B7] VN-SINGLES
     ~~~~~~~~~~
     Address: vn-singles@Saigon.COM
     Request: listserv@saigon.com

  VN-Singles is a mailing list for Vietnamese singles, professionals or
  students, although there are a number of married people in it. The focus
  is on issues related to the Vietnamese singles life (dating,
  interracial marriage, marriage custom, loneliness etc). It is small and
  well-focused on this kind of topics.
       Question to: tin@saigon.com

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[B8] VN-SXNET
     ~~~~~~~~
      Address: vn-sxnet@saigon.com
      Request: listserv@saigon.com

  This list was originally created because of the sexually explicit jokes
  and talks being posted to Vietnet.  Many people complained and flame wars
  started because of this. So the list was created as a place for people to
  post and share this kind of jokes or stories/talks whatever they
  want.  Lately, a lot of this kind of conversation has migrated to vn-atnp.
      Question to: tin@saigon.com

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 [C0] VIETNET ELECTRONIC BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEMS
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  A few public BBS boards that support the Vietnamese communities are in
  operation. For netters without an account on mainframes/minis at school/work,
  you can still reachout and 'type' someone via one of these systems.

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[C1] VIETNET BBS - phsys.com (PH. Systems)
        Phone No: 1-213-734-8528  (Modem: Hayes V32-V42, 8N1, 300-38400bps)
           Login: NEW  (then fill out questionaire for account)
 	   Owner: Hu`ng P. Ho^`, hung@phsys.com  (Los Angeles, California, USA)

  The BBS is a 24-hour public system with Vietnamese newsgroups, Job listings,
  limited Usenet News, mail connections to many other nets including Internet.
  Archive site of all Vietnamese PD software and technical documents from
  Viet-Std, Vietnamese Professional Society, TriChlor (?), MAT/CAT etc..
  Graphics section has been updated with *.gif from the Viet Nam War era.
  You are welcome to login and download software/gif. Please leave me a
  message/mail so I'll give you full access.

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[C2] VIETNET BBS - saigon.com (Station Zebra)
 	Phone No: 1-408-739-1520  (Modem: Telebit, 8N1, 1200/2400/9600bps)
           Login: bbs  (then fill out the questionaire for account)
           Owner: Ti'n Le^, tin@saigon.com  (Sunnyvale, California, USA)

  For those of you in the South Bay (San Jose, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale), who
  can not access Usenet or SCV at work or school, I operate a Public Unix site
  in Sunnyvale.  It's open access (no fee) and operate 24 hours/day, through
  which you can access Usenet (or leave me a message asking for a private
  account).  I have only one phone line for in/out calling, but the traffic
  is light.  If the usage picks up, I will add another phone line.
  You are welcome to call and read news, I only ask that you don't hog the
 line for too long a stretch of time (no more than one hour per call).

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[D0] VIETNAMESE ARCHIVES (SOFTWARE/TECHNICAL REPORTS)
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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[D1] Vietnamese Archives
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Public domain Vietnamese software by the Trichlor Group & other
  Vietnamese on the net, plus technical reports from various SIGs of
  Vietnet are keep at the following locations:
 	Anonymous FTP:  sonygate.sony.com [192.65.137.2]
             Via Mail:  ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
                         mailserver@saigon.com
    Via Direct Dialin:  Vietnet BBS [phsys.com] +1 213/734-8528  (300-38400bps)

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[D2] Using Anonymous FTP
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Here is the intruction for accessing the anonymous FTP archive.
  Site name: sonygate.Sony.Com [192.65.137.2] (try 192.65.137.240 if the
						first one doesn't work)
  Login as anonymous, password is anything (please use your email name).
     % ftp sonygate.sony.com
     Connected to sonygate.sony.com
     220 sonygate.sony.com FTP server ready.
     Name (sonygate.sony.com:<your_login): anonymous
     Password (sonygate.sony.com:anonymous): <type_your_name
     331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
     230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
     ftp cd tin
     250 CWD command successful.
     ftp type binary
     200 Type set to I.
     ftp get <file.tar.Z
     ftp quit

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[D3] Using Ftpmail
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  For netter on UUCP, SMTP, Novell, MCI, CompuServ net, which don't allow
  direct FTP. You can retrieve any file from the FTP site via mail.
   	mail the following message to
 		ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
 	----------------------------------------
 	reply Your_Email_Address_Here
 	connect sonygate.sony.com
 	binary
 	uuencode
 	chdir tin				<- or to which ever directory
 	get filename				<- or ls for a directory list
 	quit
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 Please send comments/suggestions to hho@usc.edu
 Version 1.0	Jun 4, 1991
 Version 1.1	Oct 1, 1991
         1.15    Nov 1, 1991
         2.0     Mar 5, 1992 (viet-net moved)
         3.0     Aug 1, 1992 (major rewrite)


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