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From: cocoa@netcom.com
Subject: Re: Audrey Hepburn (was: *How* did you meet your SO)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:41:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.185650.27693@jetsun.weitek.COM> weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.173136.11109@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:
>>(Who sat up *way* past her bedtime watching Katherine Hepburn last night)
>>
>Me for one. 
>
>Michael.
>
>Who watch 'Roberta' three times this week at his local theater, the
>Stanford, near the school of the same name.  (Fred Astair and Ginger
>Rodgers dance, Irene Dunne sings 'Smoke Gets in Your Eyes'.  Not to be
>missed.)

I studied "Shall We Dance" in film class in college, but was much less impressed
with it than other musicals.  Astair and Rogers are portrayed in such a 
"formula" that it distracts me too much.  I've never seen "Roberta".  Is it
less formulaic?  

I thought it was interesting when I heard that Astaire actually danced more
times with Rita Hayworth than with Ginger Rogers.  Anyone else remember this
trivia?

Just me,

little 'e'


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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Credibility and Trueness
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:52:05 GMT

Some threads are getting too interesting to stay out of.

Somebody mentioned that Ed cannot imagine how anyone can
be happier outside of a relationship that within one 
BECAUSE he himself is so unhappy while not in one.

Get this: If you are unhappy while not in a relationship, what 
can make you so sure that you'd be happy in a relationship?

IMNSHO, happiness is not something derived exclusively from
the people around oneself, the relationship that one is involved
in, or one's surroundings.

True happiness with anything has to come from within oneself.
When this is understood deeply, one can become happier by 
taking delight in the little things in life that most of us
ignore. Unfortunately, there are many unhappy people BECAUSE
they walk around through life with blinders on.

I believe that folks who are inherently content with life
are EQUALLY content within a relationship and without one.

I have been in both situations and have trained myself to be
happy on the whole BECAUSE it just feels better than self pity.

I have not had a "Meaningful Relationship" for a long time, 
and I was never happier than I am right now at this time in my
life.

The above ideas are the result of going through a great deal
of SHIT in the past few years. Bad things and rough times
make us stronger individuals, IMNSHO.

Ed, I wish you some real tough times so that you can have the
opportunity to learn how to laugh at life instead of whine
about it. 

dreas 

Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.penpals,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: skm8109@ucs.usl.edu (Mishra Subhada K)
Subject: Re: SM ISO MAIL
Keywords: "Want"
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:19:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.234252.20749@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> ece_0296@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Abu Bakar Al-Idrus) writes:
>In article <C19GCo.DE7@cen.ex.ac.uk> st92rcn@cen.ex.ac.uk writes:
>>My name is rachel and I want your body
>
>Oh yeah? Try going to the Body Shop! ;>  ;)  :)
>
>- U of A Kinda Guy

After reading all these flames:

Am I the only one, or the response from Rachel had some sense of humor
in the context of the original article ?

Subha
(mishra@ucs.usl.edu)
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Second Date
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:34:29 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: an3371@anon.penet.fi's message of 24 Jan 93 20:42:13 GMT


In article <1993Jan24.205359.323@fuug.fi> an3371@anon.penet.fi writes:

   How long after a first date do you usually wait before going
   for a second date?  A week, a few days?  Guess it depends on
   the situation, too.

You are correct, it depends on the situation.

In all cases, I would say that it's great to call the next day and
thank him or her for a nice time (if you indeed had a nice time --
_never_ lie).  Depending on his/her response you can decide whether or
not to ask them out again right then and there.  If you don't ask 
right then, I wouldn't wait longer than a day or two.

If you had a really good time while out on the date, you might want to
make plans for another towards the end of the date...	


Spidey!!!




--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
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//\((  ))/\\
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Credibility...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 06:16:59 GMT

In article <ewright.727743880@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <1993Jan21.194936.5318@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>>I also know people who seem to have no interest in
>>being in a relationship at all (one in particular has the problem that
>>she's (by our current social standards) very attractive, intelligent, etc.,
>>and keeps having people decide that she's their ideal woman and wanting
>>to live the rest of their lives with her while her interest in even
>>dating anybody is simply nonexistent).
>
>Or so she says.  Bet you a hundred bucks she's married within
>five years.

Sorry, I prefer my bets to be more interesting and have a higher return. 

>>What I do want to know is why you feel so certain about this pronouncement
>>that it is impossible to be happy being single?  
>
>The obvious insincerity (and, when you get beneath the surface,
>unhappiness) of those who claim it is possible.

Interesting--so how do you manage to detect this "obvious" insincerity
and unhappiness in others?  You do have a technique other than 
projection, don't you? 

>>I'm happy enjoying a hot fudge brownie sundae and I'm also happy enjoying
>>a good pizza--how is enjoying being single and enjoying being not-single
>>so different?
>
>Let's see... a pizza is not the negation of a hot-fudge sundae?
>
>Gosh, easiest test I ever took!

In a strict sense, people don't actually enjoy being single or not being
single--they enjoy the experiences and the emotions that go along with
each state.  However, the experiences and emotions of being single are
not the negation of the experiences and emotions of being non-single 
(in fact, there's a fair amount of overlap); there are many fine and
wonderful experiences and emotions associated with either state and I
have spent much time enjoying them.  (Perhaps I most strongly savor each
state when I have gone a long time in the other.)

So, I'll rephrase the question--how is the experience of a hot fudge 
brownie sundae vs. the experience of a good pizza so different from
the experience of being single vs. the experience of being not-single?
(Please, if you could, answer what you know I mean by this question
rather than locate some irrelevant point and expound upon that.)

Trygve   (Hmmmm...I've got some records where the rights to the music
          are owned by the "Misery Loves Company.")
--
"All syllogisms have three parts
 Therefore, this is not a syllogism."
From: mysti@sierra.sybase.com (Mysti Rubert)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Classiest Pickup Lines
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:22:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan17.172610.6034@netcom.com>, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
|> In article <28034@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sierra.sybase.com (Mysti Rubert) writes:
|> >  [deleted]

|> >Speaking with or to anyone for any express purpose other
|> >than getting to know them is usurious and inherently unclassy,

 
|> Mytsi, Mytsi, Mytsi, haven't you learned that engaging in grammar flames
|> is inappropriate when you don't know the English language all that well,
|> either?
|> -- 

Actually my quarrel with the guy/girl who runs things together is not
a grammatical quarrel, merely an orthographic one (the charge of vaugeness
is a semantic complaint).  

Are you related to Chuckles?  He too seems to focus on my all-too-frequent
typos (not that I would expect anyone with a penchant for prescriptive grammar
to allow me to invent the word usurous (typo was "usurious") an adjectival
form of "use") and not on the propositions at hand.  Even if I was just
butt-stupid about english, single errors in a clear context are a different
manner of beast from deliberate vaguaries and cutsie running-together words,
aren't they?

Cheers
-- 
========================
Mysti Rubert, Oaktown, California

"It's not the men in my life, but the life in my men."  Mae West
Xref: sparky soc.singles:37339 soc.penpals:5730 alt.romance:16263 alt.romance.chat:23756
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.penpals,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: SM ISO MAIL
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:20:23 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: sgokhale@lonestar.utsa.edu's message of 20 Jan 93 23:35:05 GMT


In article <1993Jan20.233505.9824@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sgokhale@lonestar.utsa.edu (Shashank S. Gokhale) writes:

   i am a single asian indian male, 25, who is seeking a lady, preferably
   asian indian,  between the ages of 18-30 for some good, clean fun.  i am in
   San antonio, TX, and am quite lonely as i do not know many people over here.
     if anyone out there meets these qualifications, please reply.  lets have
   some fun!!  life is too short to be alone.

   i would appreciate some email from anyone who is interested.

They _still_ don't get it.

Doesn't anyone actually read this group (soc.singles) before posting here?



Spidey!!!

--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: gopal@nx33.mik.uky.edu (P Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Flame this sucker
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Distribution: soc.singles
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:13:42 GMT

I am really surprised by the type of flame a asian indian received for posting 
a personal ads. I read this group quite regularly and have seen some personals 
ads posted but never has anyone been scorched this way by flames to my knowledge.
Also the tone(with a supposedly asian accent) sucks. For all the racist pigs
you think you can live together with such an attitude. This flame is 
directed at the person who flamed with a supposedly asian accent. Philistine
is the only name I can call you because I am too decent .


Gopal.
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: SM ISO MAIL
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:41:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1993Jan24.214132.268
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <thurlow.727887882@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>In <1993Jan23.223506.28886@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas) writes:
>
>>In article 4335@news.acns.nwu.edu, drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>>>Its perfectly fair and reasonable to insult someone on the net using every 
>>>bit of personal and specific information about them or their posts that you 
>>>have (well almost) especially if it is funny, but it is not okay to use racial >stereotypes to insult a single individual. 
>
>>Oh, well. Some folks enjoyed it and others didn't. [...]
>
>Dreas, I itch whenever I see stuff based on racial stereotypes.
>Certainly people laugh, I do at some of the milder forms too, but
>that one was well over my line.  You have not gone that far before
>that *I've* read.
>
>Maybe it's time you stopped flipping off all the people who are
>trying to suggest that an element of your style sucks and *think*
>about it rather than defending your percious position.
>
>Rob T
>--

Thanks Rob for saving me the time it would take to compose a post. Dreas,
what he said.

Max
From: nin15b63@merrimack.edu (The Wolf)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Didn't we drop the pickup line thread?
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:51:10 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

> BTW, the all-time best line I've been on the receiving end of is
> 
> 			"Hi.  Sorry I'm late."

... and hope it's the only time you hear her use it.
-- 
 Andy Harrington                      | nin15b63@merrimack.edu
 Merrimack College, North Andover, MA | I'm too sexy for this network.
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Classiest Pickup Lines
Date: 22 Jan 1993 13:08:16 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <28073@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sierra.sybase.com (Mysti Rubert) writes:
}In article <1iq1tuINNkg1@mirror.digex.com>, huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
}|> In article <27793@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sierra.sybase.com (Mysti Rubert) writes:
}|> }Am I the only one who thinks that speaking to a stranger for the
}|> }sole purpose of engaging in sex is *inherently* unclassy?
}|> 
}|> {Description of mammal mating behaviors (bonobo's are mammals?) deleted}

Bonobos (_Pan paniscus_), like orangutans (_Pongo pygmaeus_) and humans
(_Homo sapiens_) are mammals.  Within that class all three are also primates,
and within the primate order, all three are members of the hominoid super-
family.  After the flood waters in California have receded, you can view
bonobos at the San Diego Zoo (there are also bonobos in Cincinnati, Columbus,
and Milwaukee).  In the meantime you can read about them in the March 1992
issue of _National Geographic_, the June 1992 issue of _Discover_ (the one
on sex, so library copies may have been stolen by now), and a book called
_Peacemaking Among Primates_ by Frans de Waal.

}I didn't ask if pickup lines were effective, unavoidable, or even
}politically correct.

What a relief!  I hadn't answered those questions.

}                      I asked if anyone else thought they were inherently
}unclassy, and I haven't yet seen anyone (except Chuck) answer the question
}directly, which leads me to believe that no one can justify them in terms
}of classiness.

Please excuse my subtlety, but my answer was supposed to be that they're
classier than alternatives practiced by our hominoid cousins as well as by
certain male humans (of course, gyrating one's pelvis can also eventually
lead to one's face appearing on postage stamps).  Note that the subject of
this thread implies some sort of comparison.

}I've been thinking that pickup lines are much like asking the price
}of a jag.  If you have to ask.....

Well, the real problem with a jag is the cost of maintenance.  Since my
condominium posted signs at the property lines, the supply of door-to-door
salescreatures has dropped off dramatically.  Also, the rules prohibit pets
weighing more than 25 pounds, so a 300-pound cat is out of the question.
You were referring to a mammal, right?

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Credibility...
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:12:58 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN)
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcink.bbn.com

In article <ewright.727854345@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <MARTINC.93Jan23124248@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>
>>Being "single" I presume implies "not in a monogamous relationship" 
>
>Can't count very well, can you Charlie?
>
>Single means "one."
>
>Not single means "more than one."

Let's pin down what you mean...

1)  Would you consider a person who had one or two dates a month with people
that he/she never went out with again to be non-single?

2)  Would you consider a person who went out as often as he/she liked with
groups of friends to be non-single?

If you really are excluding these two groups of people from your definition
of single, then I guess I'd have to agree with you that I think most people
would find it difficult to be happy without friends and a social life.  I
think it would also be tough to be happy if you felt that you didn't have
anyone who really cared about you (but family, friends, and cats are useful
here.)  A couple of dates here and there, while good for your self-esteem, 
doesn't really make a huge difference in the long run.  It would be easier 
to be happy with one good friend in your life than no friends and some 
superficial dates.

Dawn
-- 
"You have this adorable and misguided notion that death is something really
radical and cool but I still can't help being attracted to your fresh-faced
uncompromised tatoo-ed rebel stance and god damn, I'd like to help you
sing your tune."  "Folk Song..." by Bongwater
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Honesty, Your word, and Trust -- a crisis?
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:36:02 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels) writes:

>I'm glad to know I'm not the only person
>that has discussions over whether "many" is more than "several", or who
>proceeds to compute an approximate number when told that there are
>"a ton of cats up for adoption".

But were the speaker actually discussing the weight of the cats up
for adoption, the sentence would be "there *is* a ton of cats up for
adoption."

Stef, refugee from Nitpickers Anonymous
stef@apple.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ra@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Starcap'n Ra)
Subject: Re: SWF in search of SWM or DWM
Organization: soc.singles
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:42:05 GMT

mehrl4986@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> Hello out there:
> 
> I'm a single white female who is wondering if anyone does read these things?
> I decided to post a note here because I'm shy.

     Oh bullshit.  You're just some nerd wanking
off at his terminal.

> If you want to see if we connect or have similiar interests,
> just drop a line to me.

     Piss off, wanker.

--Starcap'n Ra       {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Honesty, Your word, and Trust -- a crisis?
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:29:16
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
	<1993Jan25.144344.27709@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
	<MARTINC.93Jan25233544@grover.cs.unc.edu> <C1HL7y.3M5@panix.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.cs.unc.edu
In-reply-to: sethb@panix.com's message of Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:26:21 GMT

In article <C1HL7y.3M5@panix.com> sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:

   In article <MARTINC.93Jan25233544@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

   >The part that seemed reminiscient of someone in particular is the part
   >where they (1) over-literalized (2) transformed your statement into a
   >crisp black-and-white statement (3) realized that wasn't precisely what
   >you meant, and (4) proceeded to announce that you *lied* to them.

   I'll often do (1), (2), and (3) (but not seriously, just because I
   sometimes get into silly moods).  (4) I won't do, because honesty is
   important to me, and I won't accuse someone of lack of it lightly.

And by golly you weren't the one I meant.  (1) and (2) are the hallmarks
of the over intellectual smart ass, and one of my favoriate games as
well. 
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: SM ISO MAIL
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:52:58 GMT

In article <thurlow.727888292@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>In article 16585@auspex-gw.auspex.com, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>
>>First of all,  with the emergence of the anonymous posting service personal
>>ads are finding their way onto soc.singles with great frequency.  As a
>>result, a neophyte reader is going to see them and might figure that they
>>are acceptable here.
>
>I doubt our problem with personal ads resides with the people who
>take any time to find out what the group is like.  I think it's
>more likely that they scan their .newsrc for likely targets before
>they read anything at all in the affected groups.
>
>Rob T

Yep, I agree, which is why I suggested that the anon posting server
include a strongly worded caution against posting personals to
inappropriate groups in the directions for posting anonomously. This would
tend to discourage the merely clueless and leave only the truly arrogant
"I'm above the rules" types as flamebait. 

Max
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Flirting How To Guide/Backrubs
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:35:39 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <JMD.93Jan26142520@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan26.015338.6704@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) writes:
>
>   Piglet (who, btw, _doesn't_ have BigHair, _despite_ having moved to NJ)
>
>Piglet, trying to imagine you with BigHair is almost as difficult as
>trying to imagine Jim Dutton wearing a tutu!

You mean the one that goes with the Pippi Longshoreman outfit? 
Nah, I still can't really imagine Piglet with BigHair. Lotso pigtails
maybe, but the ConcreteCottonCandyStuff is right out.

paul
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: rON bashing
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:41:18 GMT

In article <1jj7flINN9kv@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.142223.22435@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>In article <1j8knjINNnmv@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>>Well, let me check the naughty bits....
>>Brudders?
>Yeah, but he's only 19. :)

Sounds perfectly legal to me ....  :-)
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