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From: CASTAN@cip.physik.uni-stuttgart.de ()
Subject: Re: driver for HP Deskjet 500C
Organization: CIP-Pool Physics Dept, University of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:17:52 GMT
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In <uzr50f.4.722253660@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> uzr50f@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de writes:

> Hallo everybody!
> 
> I've got an Atari 260ST and a HP Deskjet 500C printer, but I have'nt got
> any drives for the HP featuring the color facilities.
> Could anyone tell me where I can get such a driver?
> 
> Yours, Mark.

The PAINTJET.SYS driver of the FontGDOS package supports 3 planes=8 colors.
Could you please tell me (email) if this works with a 500C?

Gerd



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rrk@vixen.cc.bellcore.com (kutz,randolph r)
Subject: Ramdisks, submariners, and CAD 3D help: thanks!
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:28:33 GMT
Keywords: ramdisk, CAD 3D, Silent Service 2

Thanks be to the net.  On my recent inquiry on ramdisks
I received several helpful responses, and as a result
I grabbed several ramdisks from the atari archive. (the
address for which I found in another posting since the
one I had did not work).  

Similarly, I found out Tom Hudson is still performing 3D magic
with Autodesk.  Pure talent.  (I also will call Lexicor for a
catalog)

W.R.T. G+plus and CAD 3D hardcopy: I had called
the Codeheads about a year ago, they suggested a different assign.sys
printer driver as I recall, it didn't help.  Apparently the problem
was not common, they had dealt with it only once before, but did not
recall the solution off-hand.  So anyway, I would like knowing
if someone has used G+plus with CAD 3D (2.0) successfully so I know
whether or not to keep trying.

Finally, I received an enthusiastic response for Silent Service 2,
and it will be my next software purchase (I've seen Joppa advertise it).

Anyway, thanks much.  This net is a great resource.  Also much
thanks to those who maintain the atari archive.

Randy Kutz  rrk@vixen.cc.bellcore.com
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: NOTE: 16-bit Falcon bus may not be so bad.
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:56:20 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

I have heard that a 16-bit bus attached to a 68030 is not as bad as
I'd first thought.  The 16-bit bus does not NECESSARILY cripple the
architecture.  I don't have the details, but apparently you can use
a 16bit bus and multiplex it for upper and lower 16 bits.

I'm only saying "may not".  I'll try to recover the origins of my
info.  I think it may have been with regard to the Apple LC.

I'm suprised that Bob Brodie, or whoever officially stated that the Falcon
had a 16-bit data bus did not give these details, however.

Remember that the Quickindex figures showed the Falcon to be approx 50% 
of the speed of the TT for CPU-memory related tests (not 25%) - indicating
that the Falcon does not suffer a 50% loss in speed from the 16-bit bus,
or the TT is 16bit... or 16MHz :-).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: 21 meg floptical
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:05:17 GMT

Netters, please READ postings carefully. I said LINK cable not LYNX cable.
Also, if you do not have a SCSI port you MUST use the LINK cable to convert
your DMA to SCSI (the LINK cable lets you use most SCSI peripherals
without the need for a host adaptor (the ICD host adapter converted SCSI to
DMA).
From: ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Video Phones and the Falcon.
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:25:32 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London

In article <1992Nov23.073843.26299@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu) writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.235236.1@fnalc.fnal.gov> traynor@fnalc.fnal.gov writes:
>>Hello--

[Much deleted]

>Hm, videophone, interesting idea, but not something we can do over the current
>phone network, is it? I've seen some AT&T blurbs about videophone technology,
>using some new compression scheme and only sending something like 10 frames per
>second, very low rez. Maybe that's over the existing phone network, but I
>think it's targeted at a digital optical network... I guess it's a cool idea
>but I don't think its time has come yet. (Besides, I'm more often thankful that
>the other end *can't* see me than I'm wishful about seeing the other end. Must
>be all those callers waking me out of a sound sleep... }-)
>-- 
>  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
>
>All true wisdom is conveyed in one-line witticisms.

The system you are talking of does indeed work on an ordinary phone line,
and will be in sale in Britain in the new year. The company which developed
the phone is Plessey.

The it compresses the data by only sending the differences between pictures,
rather like the video conferencing technology. The frame rate is VERY low,
something like 5 frames per second and it is quite low res.

I'm very sure that the Falcon's hardware could easily cope with the data,
and what with the video phone costing initially about 400 pounds, it
wouldn't be THAT much more of an expensive solution, assuming that the phone
interface could get BABT (the British phone testing agency) approval.

Steve

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From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: GFA Basic Compiler Needed!!!!!
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:39:30 GMT

In article 1eniasINN11b@uwm.edu, stacylee@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Stacy Lee Sievert) writes:
>Help!!!!!
>
>I accidentaly deleted my only copy of a compiler for GFA Basic.
>It was entitled GFA_BCOM.PRG, and was for one of the early versions
>of GFA Basic (sold seperately, although I think my version was PD).
>
>Can someone please help me out?  Help Much appreciated!


I assume you are using the old version 2.0 of GFA BASIC?  If your interpreter
saves its files as *.BAS, it's the 1.0 or 2.0 verison.  If it saves them as
*.GFA, it's 3.07 or above.

Although the GFA BASIC 2.0 interpreter was placed into the public domain some
time ago, the compiler for 2.0 remains commercial software, not P.D.  It is
available in the US directly from GFA Software Technologies, 27 Congress Street,
Salem, Massachusetts or by calling 1-800-766-6GFA.

Word of advice... if you are trying to do anything in GFA, go ahead and spring
for the upgrade to GFA 3.5 with full documentation.  It is light years ahead of
the old 2.0 version and well worth the upgrade fee.  Or you might hold off for
the "imminent" release of version 3.7 which promises full Falcon/MultiTOS
compatability, new GEM based editor and other goodies.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: schaerer@isi.ethz.ch (Thomas Schaerer)
Subject: Re: More Falcon news...
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:52:30 GMT

Dr. N.A. Affara (naffara@crc.ac.uk) wrote:
: Having just read this months ST Format and ST Review (the best one), I thought
: I would post some interesting info.
: 
: They say that the Falcon030 will be *widely* available next spring.
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: 								|
: Also a Falcon040 with 32Mhz 32 bit processor + DSP etc 	|
: will be *released* next November and be available spring '94.	|
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				|
				|

	THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS ANGER OF DAY  ! ! !
	================================================

Greetinx Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: DMA-Sound with GFA Basic
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:27:22 GMT
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Is there any way of re-directing the DMA sound output in GFA Basic to a
standard STFM-output??  As, trying to program samples into the program using
DMA sound, without being able to hear them is a major problem!
 
(Or, is there a way around it???)
/
Also - does the DMA play the samples in stereo??  
(the DMA-sound command that is, I know the chip itself does!)
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Llamatron (undocumented feature?)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:37:17 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Kenneth Love asked about Llamatron:

>Someone told me that there was a weird 'spiral-thingie' somewhere, but I don
>know how to get it.  Maybe it was another pause "icon"?


Sit all the way through the scrolling text at the beginning of the game
and it'll tell how to get into a "sound demo" mode with all the game
sounds and the Tentacle...
 
BobR
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: What is g++?
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:16:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Nov18.181636.797
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls

In article <168A213D1A.C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu>, C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Jeoff Hines) writes:
>  I cannot find anything like a manual or some basic instructions for G++, is
>there such a beast?  My problem is that I am going to try to teach myself C
>over my Christmas break, but I will not have access to the net from my home.
>Could some nice guy help me (a relativly inexperienced programmer) out with
>the basics for C programming?

First suggestion: do NOT get GNU C/C++ to learn about C programming, at least
not until you feel comfortable giving up 5 megabytes of hard disk space for
the compiler and spending an hour or two setting things up correctly.  For the
absolute beginner in C programming, I would recommend using Heat&Serve C (Ian
Lepore's easy-to-install-and-run version of Sozobon C).  You can get hold of
the program from the atari.archive.umich.edu FTP site.  The file name is

	atari/Languages/sozo133i.zoo

As to the basics of C programming, go to your local bookstore, find the
computer language section and look through the "Learning C" books to find one
with which you are comfortable.  SAMS has a nice series of books, the first
titled (of course) "Learning C".  Ignore books about Turbo C, MicroSoft C and,
for the moment, anything from Dr. Dobb's (after you've gone through an
introductory book, you can try the more daunting code in books from Dr.
Dobb's...)

About the only difference you'll find between Heat&Serve C and the C in the
introductory books is where you get into ANSI-standard specifics.  Learning
the basics is pretty much the same whether you're using Portable C or ANSI-C.

Once you've started getting comfortable with C, you can start using the
Power Versions of C (GNU C, Pure C, etc...)  Some of the C compilers will cost
you a lot of money (Pure C was in the $450 range last time I checked, GNU C is
freely distributed).

When the MiNT/GNU C/shell/utility distribution kit is finally uploaded onto
atari.archive.umich.edu (it's on hold at the moment, Simon, hint hint...), you
shouldn't have quite as much of a hassle using (or installing) GNU C.

You should probably start saving for a hard disk if you don't already
own one.  A 20-megabyte hard drive is going to be cramped -- check out the
additional costs of a 50-megabyte hard drive -- especially if you're going to
play around with GNU C.  The resulting program code is fairly large compared
with other C compilers.

I hope this is the sort of information you needed.  Feel free to ask for more
information in this forum.

-- David Paschall-Zimbel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch)
Subject: Re: Technical wordprocessors for ST
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 03:36:53 GMT

rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable) writes:

>Well, I also understand there's a version of Word Perfect for the ST line, but
>I can't vouch for it.  At a more primitive level, I think ST Writer may allow
>half-line moves and the output of printer codes, so you can access symbol fonts
>and other tricks, if you know your printer real well.  But it's hard to beat
>the quality of TeX output.

I have wordperfect 4.1 which I think is the latest atari version..  It's
okay, but I use emacs and TeX/LaTeX more often.

John
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: CASTAN@cip.physik.uni-stuttgart.de ()
Subject: GDOS drivers for color printers ARE available
Organization: CIP-Pool Physics Dept, University of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:56:55 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


Hello,

I remember that a developer said that there was no printer driver package
(source) for color printers.

Maybe. But if you call the EXTENDED INQUIRE FUNCTION (VDI 102) for the
printer drivers in the FontGDOS package, you'll notice that there ARE
printer drivers which support color.
(NX1000.SYS, OKI20.SYS, PAINTJET.SYS with 3 planes = 8 colors each)

Has anybody tried to use PAINTJET.SYS for the deskjet 500 C?

Gerd





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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Subject: Re: Atari.Archive
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:17:42 GMT

In article <1e1a04INNjjh@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>Well Atari Archive is what I would call 100% NO GO...

Just a quick couple of questions:

1) Did you ask your systems Postmaster what the error messages included with
   the rejected e-mail message implied?

2) Did you ask your systems Network Administrator if there were problems with
   the international connections between New Zealand and the United States
   during that time period?

3) Did you ask ANYONE at a local level if there might have been problems with
   the networking capabilities of your computer system during the time in
   question?

Before making a whomping generalization about an FTP service, it would be best
to inquire, gently, whether the rest of the world has been having similar
problems, or if it just from your small part of the world that things have not
been running smoothly.

Your e-mail message could have been readdressed to Jeff's new addresses, which
he's posted at least once in this forum since he started graduate school at
the University of Minnesota, in late September.

-- David Paschall-Zimbel
From: rahin@scs.leeds.ac.uk (M A Rahin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Technical wordprocessors for ST
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:52:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: rahin@csparc11

In article <1992Nov18.103345.9447@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> madmal@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (Malachy Devlin - SPD) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>Can anyone recommend a good technical word processor for the ST. ie. one that
>would allow me to enter (large messy) equations (easily)? and also have the
>ability to generate table of contents, tables etc or am I asking to much?
>(I suppose I would be looking for something like word for windows 2 for the PC)
>( apoloyises for mentioning PC in this group :-) )

I also recommend LaTeX. One problem however is that you need to learn LateX
first. Get hold of a book on LaTeX, especially the one by Leslie Lamport.

If you don't want to take that route, then you may consider buying 
Calligrapher professional (from Working Titles in UK). It's got a very 
good equation editor as well as a Table generator & whole lot of goodies
suitale for technical wordprocessing.

Hope this helps.

- Rahin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: He Saw. He Conquered. He Came. <dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: GIF Slide Viewer.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:28:12 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

I'm looking for a program or DA that will allow me to view a series of .GIF 
files without interaction from the user. I have GEMView, which loads a single 
.GIF quite nicely, but what I'm looking for is something that works on a large 
screen, and loads one .GIF and displays it while loading the next, much in the 
same way as the old Spectrum viewers/slide show programs worked.

Has anyone seen any such animal? If so, where can I get it?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Freeze Dried Ripoff!
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:03:09 GMT

chris@status.gen.nz (Chris Thorpe) writes:
>as423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth A. Wallace) writes:
>
>> 
>>    Has anyone else out there been ripped off by Aaron Hopkins
>> and his Freeze Dried Term? I have been waiting six months for 
>> his product, the check was cashed in early July. I have sent him
>> a letter with a photocopy of the check explaining I have not yet
>> received the program, and would he please send it. I figure the
>> only way I will get my money is if I take a little 2 1/2 hour 
>> drive to Manhattan Beach and knock on his door. It is too bad,
>> one jerk can make is bad on all shareware authors. Once again,
>> do not buy his product unless you wish to lose $25.00. And it's 
>> name would be better as Freeze Dried Ripoff Ware!
>
>We heard from Aaaron on Fnet a few days ago that he fried his
>hard drive. I think that he lost some of his stuff, though I do know
>that he had someone else looking after his registrations for him.
>I suggest you contact him again regarding reg.
>
>Regards
>Chris Thorpe


I don't know about his dealings but this is not the first time I see
users complaining about his service. The first time, he said due to
lack of disks in the country (because of OS/2 and Windows) he couldn't
get any disks and therefore was not able to send it. I believe the
average waiting period for his product was 3 months.

Whatever the case, it will bring negative feedback from users such as
the above.

Best Regards,
Mark K.
From: rdo@kynes.bison.mb.ca (Russell Ochocki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Floptical Hardware Requirements
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:19:10 CST
Reply-To: rdo@kynes.bison.mb.ca
Organization: Private Site, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

Do you HAVE to use ICD's LINK to connect a floptical?  I have an ICD host
adaptor for my external SCSI hard disk.  Can I not plug a floptical into the
DMA out plug on the external disk?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez)
Subject: Re: Atari seen in Compuke! magazine
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:41:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.005022.23332@bnr.ca>, renfro@crchh610.BNR.CA (Randy Hoekstra) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov18.223526.26399@newshost.lanl.gov>,
|> hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson) writes:
|> |>In article 9H5@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu,
|> kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:
|> |>>
|> |>>I thought I'd never see the day when Compute! (er... Compuke!) magazine gave
|> |>>any non-PC or non-Mac the time of day.  The end must be near...
|> |>
|> |>Actually, Ken, back in the days of 'Compute ST', it used to be a
|> fairly decent
|> |>magazine.  Ah, those were the days.  <sigh>
|> |>
|> 
|> Back in the days of the 8-bit, Compute was great!  I learned a
|> heck-of-lot about
|> computers and programming by typing in Compute program listings and then
|> debugging
|> and/or enhancing the code.  It may have been BASIC, but I learned enough
|> to land
|> a programming job with only one computer class in college (FORTRAN; EE major).
|> Yes, those were the days.

  Ah, yeah, I remember... when the magazines had those nice drawings
from someone called 'Blair'.  I learned a lot for my ATARI 8-bit from
there...

|> 
|> RandyH
|>      

- Raist
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sanders@sci.kun.nl (Sander Stoks)
Subject: Re: Grav 2
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:04:13 GMT

I'm sure grav2 is a nice game, but on my 3M 260ST with TOS 1.04 it just 
throws four bombs at me.

What am I doing wrong?


Sander SToks
sanders@sci.kun.nl