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From: msc9315@geovax.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Norwegian music
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:32:01 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh, Geography Department.

Anyone any idea of where I can get hold of non-import version of BIOSPHERE
- Microgravity? Import CD is 20 quid. That's all I can find ... Ow :-)
Failing that, would anybody be prepared to run off a taped copy???
Payment for this.
Of course.                   (---)
Thanks.                    (--------)
Lots.                        (-----)
Jon                            ' '
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: DISCOGRAPHY: Future Sound of London
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:13:37 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

>But will it? Does anyone know if there are any forthcoming 
>distribution deals for Future Sound of London in America?  Accelerator 

>If someone could email me a reply, I'd be grateful.  I don't often 

Please post the reply to alt.rave too - I was just about to ask the
same thing. c'mon ffrr!!

Thanks
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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: Rave composition
Keywords: r
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:07:29 GMT

In article <1jmuuf$jbq@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:
>Stakker: Humanoid (and all Future Sound of London shtuff)

I love the original 'Humanoid'... has anyone got the Humanoid '92
disc?  Are the mixes (besides the original and the one on earthbeat)
worth buying the single for?

>Gat Decor: Passion

One of the Emerson mixes suits the original poster's desire for
'composed' techno pretty well.

Also check out anything on Cowboy records.  I just got Boomshanka and
Paradise Organization and they're both great. Also, if you can find it,
get 'Tonto's Drum' by Eagles Prey.

TC has 2 really good songs out, on union city records.

And there's always 'The Trip', by Ultraviolet Catastrophe.  I'm
waiting for Jon and Mike to remix it.

Some of these range pretty far from 'Techno', but I think you'll like them.


-H-
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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: techno equipment
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:47:14 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-23-93 13:45
Quoted From: Rave Crusader <raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us>
> 
> 
> "Watcha gonna do when the bass hits you???" -Adrenaline 92 Toronto, Ontario.
> Well if we are going to list anything that can be used in techno I must
> then include my Sangean ATS-803 shortwave/longwave reciever, my Commodore
> 64 with the SAM (Software Automated Mouth) voice program., a sweep
> frequency oscilator and a Saftey Speak N Spell.
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why didn't I think of that?  What an awesome idea.  I believe mine is 
the math one though ... I can get Speak'N Spell from my friend's 
little sister I think.

I am looking for somebody in Toronto with used equipment for sale, or 
someone who wouldn't mind letting me take a look their techno setup. 
I need to get some 'real' equipment, and also require some lessons in 
programming/sequencing with this kind of stuff.  Right now I'm just 
messing around with 4/8-channel IBM-based trackers, with a cassette 
deck as my sampler :(.

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From: timothyt@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Tim Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Raves around Edinburgh
Keywords: raves, Edinburgh, Scotland
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:49:30 GMT
Reply-To: timothyt@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Tim Taylor)
Organization: Dept of AI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

I've recently arrived in Edinburgh and have been disappointed
at the apparent lack of raves in the area. There must be some
around... Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Tim.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Multiplatform Techno (analog reproductions)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:39:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.182431.26599@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (sine path square field) writes:
 
>and, if you have no computer (well, an apple IIe? no...) then one EPS-16+ is
>better than nothing. sometimes people only have money for certain things.. i
>prefer to have all keyboards or rackmounts, because i fear i will have a reboot
>box or something on my invisible mac (haha) but i am saying that i necessarily
>don't trust a mac for live performances.
 
My concern so far is with studio use, but I would trust my
Mac for live use (given the normal precautions).
I would also want to create music in as close to the same way as possible
no matter where I go. This means computerS, synths, samplers, effects,
open communications with my collaborator and no staging for visual interest.
 
It'll never work! :)
 
>i actually <<LIKE>> having to load in
>samples, songs, and change the parameters as well as have push button stop
>start functions as well as real time voice filtering. if you can have a
 
As do I. We left out mixing; I like doing that live too.
 
>sequence on a mac or amiga or whatever platform, then also alter the resonance
>of a Time Varient Filter, per se, then i am impressed. but, you have to go to
>ANOTHER PROGRAM, not just another page.
 
I guess there's an assumption that if you use computers then you are
doing it *all* with the computer. Not so for me and thus the "multiplatform"
in the subject line. (Basically, I'm convinced that I don't use my sequencer
the same way as anybody else and the majority of my midi files would
leave the average computer-midi-synthesist completely puzzled.)
 
Running several synths with midi and from a Mac or PC sequencer,
I haven't had a problem controlling any midi-accessible continous
controllers. But I'm a "hands on" kind of guy :) and likewise I haven't
had a problem with grabbing a knob on a synth while playing live or
via midi. Despite being a studio-based Techno maker, I take a
substantially live approach to things.
 
As to live filtering of Mac samples under midi control....well that's
another matter entirely. I'm not saying it can't be done, tho.
 
--Eric
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  "I'm the Inman    And I'm keen
Detroit, Michigan  USA     I've a mind    Like a machine"
From: cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk (drn)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: techno equipment
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:22:35 GMT
Reply-To: cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk
Organization: drn's nasty potion


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(  (_ 0   0 _)   /  |/  | (__   \     / ol dicky jim (afx) has used such a machine in /
 \   \  o  /    (   |   |  \__   )---( a couple of his tracks - some due to be       (
  \   | O |        noaksie      /     \ released fairly soon... have a volumptuously  \
   \   |||   __________________/       \ smooth and silky one - drn frequency defector \
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From: ee90crr@monge.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk (Christopher R Ringrose)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: BREAKBEATS'N'SCRATCHES
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:09:14 GMT
Reply-To: ee90crr@monge.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Check out Zero-g samples who do Time and Space for 50 quid vols 1 or 2 conts 1000
samples and break beats - they also come on vinyl now! There are all the usual
high speed breaks  here!

	Get a copy of Sound on Sound (mag) for further sample CD info/ reviews.

		SOG '93
From: dbarton@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: been to manchester?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 02:45:53 PST
Reply-To: dbarton@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I will be going up to Manchester form London for the day and want to
check out some rrecord stores, rave clothing and that kinda stuff. 
Anyone have any ideas where to go in the city?

Any Manchester shopping tips would be great!

Thnaks!

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ dbarton@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: Rave composition
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:29:51 GMT
Keywords: r


howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>I love the original 'Humanoid'... has anyone got the Humanoid '92
>disc?  Are the mixes (besides the original and the one on earthbeat)
>worth buying the single for?

No.  Only The Omen mix is any good, and it's very close to the original
(just a bit longer and with a few extra synth crashes).

>Also check out anything on Cowboy records.  I just got Boomshanka and
>Paradise Organization and they're both great. Also, if you can find it,
>get 'Tonto's Drum' by Eagles Prey.

yeeeha.  cowboy records kick butt - sono lokota's "ice and acid" is
brilliant, as is the aloof's two singles ("on a mission" and "purity").  and
how could we forget smells like heaven.

i'll definitely second the recommendation for paradise organisation.  what a
storming track.

>And there's always 'The Trip', by Ultraviolet Catastrophe.  I'm
>waiting for Jon and Mike to remix it.

we've got 3 new remixes in the wings waiting to go.  they should be out
soon.  two of the mixes were done by british DJ jon williams (with help from
the UVC) and the 3rd was done by yours truly.  i think it will definitely
confound some expectations...

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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I was an infinitely hot and dense dot.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Reactivate & Carl Cox
From: wright@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Michael G. Wright)
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:06:13 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

(Flange Controller) writes:


>Personal opinion:

>Carl Cox == Carl Cock.

>Fair enough I think.

I think you've got no idea. He is brilliant. Who says that hardcore is dead?

-- 
Michael Wright            _-_|\    
LaTrobe University,      /     \   Hang on! I've got to think of something 
Melbourne, Australia.    \_.-_*/   smart to put in here now! 
wright@latcs1.lat.oz.au       v  
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: cacclin@fraser.sfu.ca (Stephen Cacclin)
Subject: Re: DISCOGRAPHY: Future Sound of London
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:05:42 GMT

Forgot one....

Remember "AST" by "Art, Science and Technology"? I can't forget the damn
song...it's my friends ABSOLUTE favourite. This guy is still NUTS about it
and it is years old. He has driven me to hate what was a great song in its
time.

Anyways, I don't have the specifics on it...I'll try and dig them up. Time-
wise I think it came out just after Humanoid. And if you like, I can get my
friend to post a 3000+ word essay on why "AST" is so great.

Stephen
From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: BOING!
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:32:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) 

So what does it take to organizer a rave? never been on the "other" side
of it...since Dead by Dawn is in trouble [thanks to some mentally ill
parent] I Was thinking on how to get a rave going here in
Philly...anyone one here from Lamerland ?
             
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:45:17 GMT

raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Rave Crusader) writes:

>: This was made using ONLY 2 amiga's, a mixer, a zoom 9030 effects processor
>: and a DAT to record it on.

>Only 2? Only two to get 16 voice polyphony and 4 outputs? Wow I only need
>one Ensoniq EPS. Imagine That! : Now let me see how YOU prove that it isn't
>possible!!!!!!!!!!!!

It isn't the instrument, it's the artist.  Aphex Twin has proved that you
don't need the latest synth to make good music, all you need is talent.  I'm
more impressed by people like U4IA or Urban Shakedown putting out decent stuff
with just a MOD tracker than I am with people who sit and diddle on their
expensive synths and never put out anything of worth.
-- 
			  Yes, I know why I am alive

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: CHART: The UK-Rave
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:20:40 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-28-93 13:14
Quoted From: steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk
> 
> It seems no-one voted for the Smartees...

Or Moby?  That's strange.  _Next is the E_ is an amazing song. It has 
my vote for the best of 92.  (with _Out of Space_ in a close second).

> -- 
> Stephen Hebditch  TQM Communications  steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk +44 836 825962
>

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From: ee90crr@monge.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk (Christopher R Ringrose)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave composition
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:41:14 GMT
Reply-To: ee90crr@monge.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

In article 13023@maths.tcd.ie, malxtt@maths.tcd.ie (Malcolm Tyrrell) writes:
> 
>   The problem with the present U.K. rave scene is that the emphasis on the
> writing of the music is on quantity rather than quality. Those who write
> music for raves find that if they take too long writing a tune it is in
> yesterday's style. Those who write music for public release find they must
> continually flood the market with their tunes or their name becomes obsolete.
> 
>   What I desire is a rave tune nutured from birth and brought up lovingly
> by its creator. Consistant in its mood, less emphasis on concept-sampling,
> and more individual in its style. 
> 
> What I want is a rave composition: composed, not written or programmed in!
> 
> malxtt@maths.tcd.ie


This is all well and good - but firstly well written turnes arnt necessarily what 
people like! If you want an example of something written in an afternoon see POING
by RTS and see how well that did!

	Also simplicity is also the key sometimes (ref most acid) - if you overwrite
i often find tunes getting over crowded and turning into noise. Half the game is
in getting the instrument sound right not just the notes...

Sound of Gigha '93
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: hanson@cs.UAlberta.CA (Hanson Curtis Jay)
Subject: Invention of the Remix
Summary: The real history of the dance remix
Keywords: dub, remix
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:35:33 GMT



In article <1993Jan16.003500.23122@cs.com> larry@cs.com (Larry Spence) writes:

>the mix, with echo treatments (e.g., the Orb's "Towers of
>Dub").  As far as I can tell, the whole art of dance remixes
>dates back to the early Jamaican producers like King Tubby,
>Lee Perry, et. al.  Other notable dub developments include

   Sorry, not quite right.  The original concept of "The Remix" was
developed by a New York D.J., Tom Molton, who was also the inventor of
the "break".  He was hired by Mel Cheron, who later founded "The
Paradise Garage," a legendary disco club, to remix records which his
company was producing.  Tom noticed that the music did not flow
properly and so in his home studio (circa 1973) he broke the tracks
down and rebuilt them => the invention of the break.  Both Tom and Mel
also came up with the idea of putting these remixes on 12" vinyl
because the greater space between the grooves permitted better sound
quality.

   Disco started it all....

	ep

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: DAS BOOT (movie)
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:20:35 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-28-93 13:14
Quoted From: cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk (Richard W Rackham)
> 
> It is actually a TV series of 6 * 2 hour episodes, made by the Bavarian Film
> Studios outside Munich.  Columbia in the US took these episodes and edited it
> down into a two hour film.  The film is called 'The Boat', which is pretty
> silly as the translation of 'Das Boot' is 'The Submarine'.  I have never seen
> the film, so I do not know whether it was subtitled or dubbed (the TV series
> was subtitled when showed in the UK a few years back), but I have seen a video
> for it on RCA/Columbia - it came out in the mid '80s
> 
> Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk)
>

The version of the movie I saw was titled "Das Boot", and it had 
english sub-titles.  I've seen it twice (on TV) -- very good.

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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Upcoming T.O. Raves
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:38:57 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-21-93 19:36
More information is available on some of these at your request:

Taken from the Chaos Connection Info-Line:

Sykosis II - Saturday January 23~
Exodus II - Saturday January 30~
Infinity/3D Rave - Saturday Febuary 6^
Mayhem (Cupid Gone Mad) - Saturday Febuary 13`
Pleasureforce rave - Saturday March 13`

~ Specific locations given
^ Regular shuttle-bus pickup location (you know where that is...)
` Sketchy information at best

Rumors: Moby, The Prodigy, and Cyber Sonic may all be coming to 
Toronto within the next while... or maybe not :).

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:13:39 EST
From: <JTL106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: ? next rave in wash. D.C.

Im going home this weekend and I was wondering if there is a rave in D.C.
or in Balt. 1/29-1/31.

rub a dub. rub a dub. rub a dub. rub a dub. rub a dub. rub a dub.
From: ee90crr@monge.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk (Christopher R Ringrose)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: techno equipment
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:54:41 GMT
Reply-To: ee90crr@monge.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

In article Myw@javelin.sim.es.com, pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
> 
> >> frequency oscilator and a Saftey Speak N Spell.
> 
> >Why didn't I think of that?  What an awesome idea.  I believe mine is 
> 
> Didn't Kraftwerk use a Speak n' Spell at one time?
> -- 
> I will not fight about digital vs analog.  I will not fight about digital vs a
> 
> DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
> Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown



as far as i know kraftwerk used vocoders for all their stuff - Boss SE-50 fx unit 
will do the job quite nicely!

	SOG '93
From: renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rene Walter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: BREAKBEATS'N'SCRATCHES
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:27:28 GMT

jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) writes:

>Anyone know a good source of CDs with breakbeats? I know most people
>will tell me to get them on records [like Bones breakbeats etc] but I
>want them on CD where the quality is what counts. I just bought some
>piece of crap double CD collection with breakbeats for $40 that could
>hardly be called "BREAKBEATS". I need some fast stuff (BPMs), I am just
>learning mixing, DJ-ing on CDs ONLY and need breakbeats! btw I dont want
>any CD-ROM versions but ones I can loop with my Cd players...
>                           
Try Zero-G. It should be the best...
(also available as AMIGA IFF diskettes!!!! Eat this PC freaks!!!!)
Or Beats, Breaks & scratches (from Simon Harris).

Then another point. You want some "fast stuff".
But most breakbeat house uses normal (slow) beats speeded up...
So if you want what I think that you want, then you must loop
the breaks as USED in house records, or buy a sampler (or DJ-70).

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dbl50872@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Brian Lake)
Subject: Red Red Groovy (e)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:29:26 GMT

Earlier this year I saw a compilation with the band Red Red Groovy on it.
Is this the same band that used to be an industrial group from TX, Houston
i believe, only their name was Red Red Groove.  I believe they opened for NIN
a couple of years ago, and a demo of theirs made its way to St Louis...
Anybody know?

-Danl
From: ee90crr@monge.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk (Christopher R Ringrose)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: German users
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:01:55 GMT
Reply-To: ee90crr@monge.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

In article 3o2@rice.edu, mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum) writes:
> In article <93022.144046DZ5401A@auvm.american.edu> Douglas B. Zimmerman <DZ5401A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
> >
> >         Frankfurt RULES !!!!!!!!!!
> 
> i love enthusiastic altrave posts regarding germany
> 
> yours,m


Hintlesham near Ipswich in Suffolk England is the acid centre of the universe! (*beard*)

SOG '93
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: techno equipment
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:54:38 GMT

Kraftwerk uses many things to get voice effects including; real voice,
singing computers, speak and spell, vocoders, an Amiga (whoops! :)  ).
 
 
--Eric
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
 
HUMANS MUST BE DESTROYED...I AM GOING CRAZY...DESTROY, DESTROY, DESTROY