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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Matt (was Re: Doug)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:09:05 GMT

In article <3kvn#n#.sasse@netcom.com> sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse) writes:

>I also hope they avoid the one-episode-minicrisis, where he "tries to
>get his friends to 'accept' him after knowing he's gay[sic]" or some such BS,

Well, that one at least is "right out," as they used to say on Monty
Python.  His sexuality is no secret from anybody on the show, and has
been explicitly referred to several times.  His first words on the show
were when he and Rhonda simultaneously exclaimed "he's cute!" and then
grinned at each other.  In another episode, after the guys were
wondering "what do women want" he chimed in with "men are just as bad"
(though that sounded almost like a writer's afterthought).  He has no
"coming out" to do, but it is indeed long past time for him to be given
some sort of life besides working at the shelter.  He lives in this
neighborhood, and his only friends are these straight kids who are his
neighbors???

Jon Alan Conrad
From: slayer@gl.pitt.edu (Deborah)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Andrew Shue
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:42:30 GMT

Hi all!.. Did any of you see Andrew Shue (Billy) today on Regis and Lee..
It was pretty entertaining.. He was doing some of his soccer moves and
Kathy goes "Oh Frank can do those with a football".. the whole segment
with him was really great.. He lives a life just like Melrose Place except
he is an actor not a writer..


-- 
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So what's wrong ?
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From: cass@netcom.com (Diana Tenery-Fisher)
Subject: Re: Sandy...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 15:45:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

fiorese@kansas.fishkill.ibm.com (Pete Fiorese) writes:

>In article <BuDJo7.GGs@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v127mhgk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
>(APRIL N. EZZELL) writes:
>> The actress that plays Sandy on the show played opposite of Johnny
>Depp in Cry
>> Baby as the nice girl....

>She's also in that new movie (title escapes me) about the 'all-american boy'
>who becomes persecuted by his friends because he's jewish.


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It's called SCHOOL TIES.... also.. I read in Entertainment Weekly (I believe)
that the Sandy character (Amy Locane) is being written out. 

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From: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Irresponsibility [was:Re: Doug]
Date: 11 Sep 1992 19:49:32 GMT
Organization: Saint Sebastian's school for Wicked Girls
Reply-To: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
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In article <3kvn#n#.sasse@netcom.com> sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse) writes:

>Josie Bissett
>talking about how much pregnancy changes you as if that is all anyone needs
>to be a good parent, the annoying aerobics chick chiming in that "everyone"
>has doubts about parenthood but really turn out to be fine, and Allison
>having a sudden life crisis about whether she too has the ability
>to be a good mother because she wanted more out of life, and (presented
>as the REAL reason) she didn't know if she COULD, and the way the whole
>cast is always so overjoyed about Josie Bissett's bringing a child into
>what would in reality be poverty with a father who's never there and a
>mother who lives through her husband.

Yeah, this storyline is very disturbing to me, too. With all the
problems of kids having babies, I'm disgusted at the way this show is
romanticizing and glorifying unplanned pregancy. This couple
is so far from ready to have a child - she is sulky, whining,
unsupportive, self-centered; he is distant, unperceptive, *also*
self-centered; She gets pregnant and suddenly everything is
peachy. What a great message to be sending to kids. 

-Barb
From: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Re: His name is MATT...
Date: 7 Sep 1992 18:07:54 GMT
Organization: Saint Sebastian's school for Wicked Girls
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In article <Bu7w0v.HHH@andy.bgsu.edu> ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile) writes:
>"The gay character"'s name is MATT.  He is played by a guy named Doug. 8)
>
>                                                                 cgk


It seems to me that the inability to remember these character's
names (therefore, "the doctor" "the doctor's wife" "the aerobics
teacher" "the one who used to have a southern accent"...) is
one of the problems with the show. I think they've attempted
to create memorable characters that the audience will care
about, but unfortunately, the writing is awful, so all they've
succeeded in doing is creating hollow cliche's. 

-Barb
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From: j_hernandez@csc32.dec.com (Jesse Hernandez)
Subject: Re: "Alison" on the show
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Colorado CSC
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:31:27 GMT


In article <1992Sep9.144856.24028@leland.Stanford.EDU>, jfriday@westmark.Stanford.EDU (The Crazy Archivist) writes...
> 
>Wasn't teh actress playing "Alison" the desk clerk on "Revenge of the Nerds
>ii"?  They look a lot alike (too close to be different people.)



Yup, that be her.
From: v127mhgk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (APRIL N. EZZELL)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Sandy...
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:07:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

The actress that plays Sandy on the show played opposite of Johnny Depp in Cry
Baby as the nice girl....
hahaha
April 
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From: ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile)
Subject: His name is MATT...
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:48:30 GMT

"The gay character"'s name is MATT.  He is played by a guy named Doug. 8)

                                                                 cgk

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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Melrose Place vs. The Heights
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:07:22 GMT

barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae) writes 
in alt.tv.melrose-place:
>
>It seems to me that the inability to remember these character's
>names (therefore, "the doctor" "the doctor's wife" "the aerobics
>teacher" "the one who used to have a southern accent"...) is
>one of the problems with the show.

I guess that we're not the only ones; my girlfriend and I plugged into
"Melrose Place" concurrent with the new summer episodes of 90210 in
mid-July but after two episodes of "The Heights", we found that show
to be much stronger and can refer to characters (Alex, Rita, Stanford,
J.T., Hope, etc.) by name already.  I get the feeling that Melrose
Place's potential is hobbled by the piggybacking of staff with 90210,
which "The Heights" doesn't have because that show is being done
independantly up the coast in Vancouver, B.C. (not quite the victims
of "socialist medicine" as some political commentators try to present
to some of youse) and they have had the pick of some of the best
actors and writers not already employed in the Lower Mainland.

[The sister of my sister's roommate out there went to audition for the
role of Hope (she was doing summer stock Shakespeare in Edmonton again
this summer), but I guess that they didn't want well-off Hope to be
Asian -- an influx of wealthy but overbearing Hong-Kongers has caused
a bit of friction out in Vancouver.]

You'll probably hate me for saying this, but I think that this show
will disappear by the end of the year but at least four careers will
be launched (Amy Locane, Grant Show, Andrew Shue, Courtney Thorne-
Smith) to better things later ...  Let's grab those GAP posters while
we still can ...

gld
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From: slayer@gl.pitt.edu (Deborah)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Re: Sandy...
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:39:44 GMT


The actress that plays Sandy on the show played opposite of Johnny Depp in Cry
Baby as the nice girl....
hahaha

Yep that was her :)


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So what's wrong ?
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From: chris@optimla.aimla.com (Chris Angelli)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Predictions
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:12:52 GMT
Organization: OptImage Interactive Services Co., L.P.

Since one of my favorite activities is watching MP (and BH90210) with 
my friends and trying to predict the (usually predictable) plots, I
thought I throw out some of our MP predictions:

1.  The pregnancy will end in a miscarriage.  It's a perfect scenario.
As a matter of fact, rememeber when Doc hurt his foot a couple 'a weeks
ago?  We thought that later on wifey would be lifting/moving something
heavy (since he is now an invalid) and well, there you go.  Unfortunately
that proved to be wrong, since he seems to be walking fine now.  We still 
think a miscarriage is in the offing.  And of course this will bring up
lots of "I'm going to be a terrible doctor - look I can't even take care
of my helpless wife!" issues.....

2.  The obvious Allison / Billy consumation.  The only question is when and
initiated by who.

3.  After Doc's wife looses the baby, the Amy Locane character (I forget her 
name) gets preggers by Jake.  Lots of big issues brought up there.

Any other predictions????

-Chris
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From: jfriday@westmark.Stanford.EDU (The Crazy Archivist)
Subject: "Alison" on the show
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 14:48:56 GMT


Wasn't teh actress playing "Alison" the desk clerk on "Revenge of the Nerds
ii"?  They look a lot alike (too close to be different people.)





Paul "Joe Friday" Stacy (not net.police)       Buffalo State College, New York
STACY54@SNYBUFVA.BITNET (Buffalo State College VAX)                JUST THE
jfriday@westmark.stanford.edu (Stanford, California UNIX)       "VAX", MA'AM!
Disclaimer:  This isn't the opinion of the school, police, Chief of Detective
             Staff Brown, Planet Spaceball, Starfleet Command, or the Pentagon.

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From: fiorese@kansas.fishkill.ibm.com (Pete Fiorese)
Subject: Re: Sandy...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 13:04:58 GMT
Reply-To: fiorese@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM East Fishkill

In article <BuDJo7.GGs@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v127mhgk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
(APRIL N. EZZELL) writes:
> The actress that plays Sandy on the show played opposite of Johnny
Depp in Cry
> Baby as the nice girl....

She's also in that new movie (title escapes me) about the 'all-american boy'
who becomes persecuted by his friends because he's jewish.


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From: brennan@hal.com (Dave Brennan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Steppin' Out of Character
Date: 09 Sep 92 03:31:48 GMT
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In-reply-to: jason@jazz.cnd.hp.com's message of Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:59:30 GMT

I was thinking that the guns didn't have real bullets, or that the duel was
some kind of setup that everyone but Joel was clued in on and they were
just letting him suffer.

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From: earp@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James K Earp)
Subject: Re: Ed and Ruth-Anne (Was Best Episode)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:40:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.072444.11719@reed.edu> ehudon@reed.edu (Elizabeth Hudon) writes:
>
>
>Any takers for the 'what's your favorite relationship' question?
>
>Elizabeth

Okay, Elizabeth.  I'll bite on this one.  I think I like to see the 
interaction between Maurice and Holling.  Their friendship reminds me
of my relationship with my best friend.  They have a long history,
including at least one BIG spat.  They both hated the silence between
them, and eventually found a way to end it.  They share some similar
values without being carbon copies of each other.  They each have 
their own lives, with room to share with each other. 

Maybe I'm getting old (I hope not, I'm only 33!), but these are the
things I value in a friendship.  One of my favorite episodes was the
one where a longtime friend of theirs had died and they set off
together to bury him.  During the trek through the wilderness they
found they had both changed, and aged, but that they still shared a
love for that live that they would never forget, and a respect and 
love for each other.

Kevin
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Best Episode
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:30:21 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Sep8.190311.14585@indetech.com>, alix@indetech.com 
(Alexandria North) writes:

> I've stated my objections in another post, but I have to share that...
And I contained myself then...but just couldn't hold back any longer!

> ...while watching the piano fly, I couldn't help but picture a cow in 
> the same place, and felt deeply sickened. 
Rent _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_...they fling a REAL COW!  You won't
even have to imagine it!!!  Do you have close attachments to Giant Wooden 
Rabbits???

> If it had been an inanimate object planned from the beginning, I would 
> have had no problem.
How about a dead cow?  (Greg hangs his head in shame)  I'm sorr... I'm really
sor...  I'm so sor  I'm very sorr...  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

That was mean...I shouldn't laugh, but it was a pretend person pretending
to think about flinging a pretend cow...  And he didn't even do it!

Greg Bole                               "Are you coming?  Yeah, well see the 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             train moves, not the platform."
                                       John Lovitz in _A Leauge of Their Own_
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: The Flying Man
Date: 10 Sep 1992 03:26:10 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego
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>He was also in Popeye (w/ Robin Williams, Shelly Duval - great flick!)

He was in a great short in Mondo Beyondo, an otherwise terrible show.
Was doing his own one man show last year, don't know if it's still
going on though.
-- 
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From: stevenst@iaserv.b1.ingr.com (Todd Stevens)
Subject: Re: Steppin' Out of Character
Organization: ingr
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:49:12 GMT

Dave Brennan writes:
>I was thinking that the guns didn't have real bullets, or that the duel was
>some kind of setup that everyone but Joel was clued in on and they were
>just letting him suffer.

That would have been a typical NE ending.  Similarly, as my wife and I
watched the beginning of the duel scene, she immediately said, "I bet they 
turn and squirt water at each other, and everyone's in on it except Joel".

Todd Stevens
stevenst@iaserv.b1.ingr.com

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From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Subject: Re: Cast members
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:46:23 GMT

saiki@spot.Colorado.EDU (Eileen Saiki) writes:

> wkl5819@zeus.tamu.edu (LEVERICH, WILLIAM KENT) writes:
> 
> >Could someone please post a
> >list of characters in the show and the names of the actors portraying them?

> Characters
> ----------
> 
> Dr. Joel Fleischman      Rob Morrow
> Maggie O'Connell         Janine Turner
> Ed Chigliak              Darren E. Burrows
> Maurice Minnifield       Barry Corbin
> Marilyn Whirlwind        Elaine Miles
> Holling Vincoeur         John Cullum
> Shelly Tambo             Cynthia Geary
> Chris Stevens            John Corbett
> Ruth-Anne                Peg Phillips

Trivia: Peg Phillips lives a short drive away from the town of Roslyn
(where the outside shots are done).

> Rick Pederson            Grant Goodeve

Didn't he play the "older brother" character on Eight is Enough?

And who plays Dave the cook that Adam is always insulting?

Don't forget Adam, played by Adam Arkin (I think).  Is he any relation
to Alan Arkin?  They kind of look alike.  And where else have I seen
him?  He looks familliar.  Anyway, what a fantastic character!  Adam
(the character) is unlike anything I've ever seen before.  I love how
his entrances are sometimes just shots of his dirty bare feet stepping
into the frame.  One of the last shows of last season implied he
worked for some intelligence agency.  Can we believe this, or is it
another Adam super-lie?

Can anyone summarize Janine Turner's appearance on the Tonight Show
last week?  I missed it.
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From: mxr@neptune.dsc.com (Max "Historic Snore Thunder" Rible)
Subject: Re: Oddz n' ens
Organization: Digital Sound Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:11:49 GMT

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.231010.9499@cs.wm.edu> sletten@cs.wm.edu (Brian J. Sletten) writes:
>>Has anyone heard about a connection between "Doc Hollywood" and NEXP?
>>Someone tried to convince me that "D.H." was supposed to be the basis
>>for NEXP... anyone else hear this connection?

>It must just be me.  Has no one suggested the NORTHERN EXPOSURE - TWIN
>PEAKS connection?

Well, I got hooked on Northern Exposure when I was going through Twin Peaks
withdrawal, and my parents mentioned they'd discovered another show that
had atmosphere you could cut with a knife.  In one of the earlier episodes,
at the end, Joel and Maggie are near a waterfall, and begin to hear faint
strains of music, and one of them gets a strange craving for coffee and
cherry pie or something like that.  (It's been ages since I watched that
one.)
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From: russw@cs.utexas.edu (Russ Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: what was opera music in episode with thefts?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:30:19 GMT
Organization: Great Northern Hotel
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It's been a long time since I saw the episode, but I believe it was
the one with people's stuff getting stolen.  In the last quarter of
it there was a scene at the radio station late at night with Chris
playing some operatic music with a beautiful soprano... anyone
remember this or know what the music was?

R
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From: hankdtank <hank@waffle.sns.com>
Subject: Re: syndication? not yet
Keywords: synbdication
Organization: Systems'n'Software, Fremont, CA  94539-6669
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 18:25:04 PDT

ehr@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Ernest H. Robl) writes:

> 
> Someone asked in a post a while back -- the messages in this 
> group have really poured in quickly -- when the show might be
> going into syndication.  Since no one else has answered the
> questions, this gives me a chance to contribute:
> 
> The magic number for a show going into syndication is generally
> considered 100 episodes.  (I've seen this in a number of reliable
> sources.)
> 
> The reasoning is that most stations that buy a show for syndicated
> reruns -- as opposed to a first-run syndicated show like ST:TNG --
> want to run it in what's called a "stripped" format, meaning that
> the show runs in the same time slot, usually at least five times
> a week.  With anything less than 100 shows, the stations feel that
> they would be repeating the same shows too often.  With 100
> episodes, they get at least 20 weeks of programming.
> 
> The way I count it, NX has only 38 episodes so far.  So we have a
> little while to wait.  On the other hand, the thought of being able
> to watch NX five times a week is something to look forward to.
> 
> -- Ernest
> 
> -- 
> 
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>                                          FAX:  +1  919   286-1696


My guess (and I'll put money on it, too.), is that Lifetime will pick up the 
series when it is offered for sydication in two years.  Cable nets have 
picked up series with fewer that 38 episodes, and with 50 more episodes 
being ordered of this show for the next two years, it will be bought.
 
100 episodes doesn't mean a thing when cable is in the picture. look at CB.
 
A&E is also very interested in the show.

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From: kcc@wucs1.wustl.edu (Ken Cox)
Subject: Re: Steppin' Out of Character
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:09:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.035602.6222@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>,
	sklar@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Dave Sklar) writes:
> 
> 	Yeah, sure you might attribute that to the creativity of the
> writers, but it seemed like an incredible cop-out to me.  I mean, I think
> the NX writers are talented enough to resolve the Maurice-Russian Guy duel
> withou resorting to something so cheesy.

Yeah, it was a little too off-center for my taste, a little too -- dare
I say it -- a little too much like late "Moonlighting" when they were
getting SO full of themselves.  I was trying to guess what would happen
too, and I came up with two ways that I thought would work:

1)  At "ten", the Russian turns and fires into the air, not even trying
    to aim at Maurice.  Maurice has his gun pointed right at the Russian,
    hesitates, looks disgusted, and fires his own weapon into the air.

2)  They BOTH fire into the air at "ten".  This would not really be in
    character for Maurice, of course.


Ken Cox
kcc@wucs1.wustl.edu