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From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Credibility and Trueness
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:53:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.023021.898@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>In article <93025.203945SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>
>>But almost all of Ed being tooth-gratingly obnoxious seems to
>>be sourced in a belief that he's loathsome.  
>
>Nope Graydon, Ed thinks everyone else is loathsome because they (according
>to him) don't find attractive what he is willing to offer.

Actually, I'm starting to get the distinct impression that there's an
intelligent, entertaining, and interesting guy hiding beneath Ed's 
thorny exterior--indeed, if he doesn't start working a lot harder at
keeping others away, I may find myself liking him at any moment.

And if that happens--well, then there's a pretty good chance that there
will be others who are more Ed's type (plumbing-wise being perhaps the
most important) who will feel the same and he'll have to start dealing 
with letters from interested women who really don't care what he looks
like but are intrigued by the wit and diversity of interests he 
occasionally lets us get a glimpse of.  

What I still wonder about is why Ed appears to feel the need to keep
others away so strongly--and so far he hasn't responded when I've asked
him.  (Hiya, Ed, doncha love the way we're psychoanalyzing you behind
your back right in front of you?)

Trygve   (Now to see if I've won a spot in the Mixed Metaphor Hall of
          Fame.)
--
"Write a witty saying and you'll be remembered forever."
  -- unknown
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: an4172@anon.penet.fi (FERRET)
Subject: Ferret iso SF for hopping good times...
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.singles
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:16:17 GMT



First, the important stuff. I am a SWM college grad
with plans to move to the Colo. Springs area of
Colorado. I enjoy horseback riding, hiking, camping,
and other outdoor activities. My interests are wide
and varied, but include Fantasy/SF books, Star Trek,
D&D, Shotokan Karate, Classical Music, SCA (although
I am not an official member...yet  :) ), ferrets, and
much more. I am willing to try just about anything 
once before deciding whether I like it.

I am a Pagan by choice, but I maintain an open mind
about other people's chosen religions. I have a
very punny sense of humor. <Grin> I believe very firmly
in honesty. I also believe in emotional maturity; head
games just piss me off. However, don't think of me as a
stuffed shirt. I am very fun-loving.

Now the more superficial stuff. I am 5 foot 6, 120 lbs,
brown hair and eyes, 23 years old. I am an occasional
drinker and non-smoker, although I don't mind others
smoking around me if they aren't blowing smoke in my face.
I am fairly attractive (at least, that's what I've been
told. I try to avoid judging my own appearance.) I try
to stay reasonably healthy. I am very turned off by
SM and domination games but am rather experimental
other than that.

As far as what I am looking for, I would like to meet
a S*F within driving distance of CoSpgs for a close
friendship and, hopefully, LTR. I am hoping to meet
someone with a sense of adventure and romance. Looks
aren't all that important, although height and weight should
be proportional (i.e. healthy). Must have interests we can
share. Openmindedness in all areas is a very definite plus.

If I have held your interest this long, drop me a line and
we'll see what happens. :)

Ferret

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From: mysti@sierra.sybase.com (Mysti Rubert)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Classiest Pickup Lines
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:13:37 GMT

In article <MARTINC.93Jan17112511@grover.cs.unc.edu>, martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

|> Call me Charlie.  Or Charles.  Or Sue.  Just ANYTHING but Chuck.

I guessed right!  I suspected it would bug you!

 
|> I forbear from suggesting that aberrant capitalization (like "jag" for
|> "Jag") impedes written communication only with some effort.

Looks like it was too much effort, as you didn't actually succeed in forbearing
did you?  Surely you recognize a neglectful typo as being different from
habitual obfuscation.  Well, maybe you don't!

Your grasp of the obvious, and tediously unimportant, is so consistent
as to amaze.....

|> 
|> Anyway, since subtlety didn't get across, let's take another run at it.
|> Tell me a situtation -- other than "how much for a piece of ass,
|> sweetheart?" -- in which a pickup line is used solely for purposes of
|> sex, and I'll tell you if it's inherently unclassy.

Dearheart, it has been clearly established that the phrase "pickup line"
means "line used to initiate a negotiation for sex between strangers".
That is it's primary goal, not it's sole purpose.  Very few forms of
communication (none that I can think of) serve any single purpose.

Anyway, if you say you don't feel they are inherently
unclassy, do please provide a sample of what you believe to be classy.
I can't be expected to conjure up an example of the proposition you are
putting forth, especially as I don't believe they exist and so naturally
wouldn't look very hard for them!

|> 
|> Is bringing a purple unicorn into a bar solely for purposes of sex
|> inherently unclassy?

I guess that depends on whether you boff the unicorn right there in
the bar or not.  I feel purple unicorns in any particular instantiation
are in fact too gooey-sentimental new-agey to be classy, but I'm willing
to recognize that as a personal judgment call and not a necessary attribute.

Cheers.

-- 
========================
Mysti Rubert, Oaktown, California

"It's not the men in my life, but the life in my men."  Mae West
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: dheisler@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Dave Heisler)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: This is soc.singles ?
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:15:27 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University

i thought it was soc.suckups, maybe
it's my news reader.
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.penpals,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Howard Johnson's Got His Ho-Jo Workin')
Subject: Re: SM ISO MAIL
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:13:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.200804.29089@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.163639.29694@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Howard Johnson's Got His Ho-Jo Workin') writes:
>>In article <C19GCo.DE7@cen.ex.ac.uk> st92rcn@cen.ex.ac.uk writes:
>>                                ^^^^
>>>My name is rachel and I want your body
>>
>>RACHEL! How many times do we have to tell you the net is international
>>and the UK is a long way off from nearly everybody??? Tease.
>
>Oh yeah.  Especially from people in the UK.
>
>(Try soc.bi -- there are so many UK people coming out of the woodwork
>on that group that the Americans will soon be feeling like an
>oppressed minority...)

Hey, easy there, guy, I'm merely being flippant. And trying to include
people on the Continent and elsewhere. No insult to UK intended.
Besides, when's the last time you charged off to another city
a long ways away just 'cause you saw a post like this? Well, maybe
I shouldn't ask...;) (again, a joke, OK?)

>
>--
>Guy Barry, University of Cambridge | Phone: +44 (0)223 334757 

frank



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From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Second Date
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:20:46 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1993Jan24.205359.323@fuug.fi> an3371@anon.penet.fi writes:
>How long after a first date do you usually wait before going
>for a second date?  A week, a few days?  Guess it depends on
>the situation, too.
>
Of course it depends on the situation. If you dating with hopes to
start a relationship, you will be trying to balance between showing
interest and looking desperate. Ask too soon, and you will look like
you are in a rush to get involved with anyone you can get your hands
on. Ask her out too late, and it will look like you are preoccupied
and not giving her enough attention.

I usually think about when the next convenient time for a date would
be (say next weekend), and then double that time. But that's just me.

Michael.
-------
PS.
You might try posting this question to alt.romance, if you can.
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Operation Valentine's Day !!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:33:23
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.cs.unc.edu
In-reply-to: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:31:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.023143.4656@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:

   In article <1993Jan25.022131.26683@news.ysu.edu> ag936@yfn.ysu.edu (Lance Durden) writes:
   >
   >all: valentine's day is 3 weeks from today on sunday, february 
	...
   >here is my valentine:


   [garbage almost all deleted]

   I can't stand it - where do they grow these people? 45 years old and this
   is what he generates??? Maybe I'm just in a bad mood or something.......

If so, there's a lot of it going around.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Xref: sparky soc.singles:37800 ba.singles:3496
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Bimbo/Jerk Definitions (Was:Re: Singles Expo in Palo Alto on 01/23)
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:09:20 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <1993Jan24.225013.17856@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:

>     If I have misinterpreted Ed's queries in terms of humor, then sue
>me.

Oh, no!  Thanks for posting this - it is just what I was looking for.

> Jerk:
>   1) A Superhuman
>      Complex         :  A jerk has a need to feel superior.  He places
>                         an overemphasis on masculinity, competence,
>                         abilities, and anything that makes him stand out.

This could fit 90% + of the men on ba.singles and soc.singles.

> Bimbo:
>   1) Value Fluff     :  A bimbo has materialistic values.  She is
>                         attracted to a man for superficial reasons
>                         such as appearance, wealth, and the degree of
>                         excitement he generates.

Likewise, this could fit 90% + of the women on ba.singles and soc.singles.
Including, of course, our famous Tina.  :)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Steve Martin no longer in vogue?
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:23:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <lmdnvvINN5c0@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

|I guess this isn't the newsgroup for this discussion, but when I first
|started posting here, I considered it very much performance art, with
|the payoff in ego.  Now I usually don't bother as much to "perform", but
|it seems like it's still an available option.

Dawn, you can perform for me anytime.  Heck, I'll even give you a standing
ovation.

-- 
-john
From: kgorman@bbn.com (Karen Gorman)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Honesty, Your word, and Trust -- a crisis?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:43:17 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <JMD.93Jan27092706@lion.bear.com>, jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
> 
> In article <77584@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
> 
>>Yup.  Yet another breakdown in communication.  We are unwilling to
>>confront each other on even the smallest issues.  So the issues
>>aggregate, and snowball until they become a major issue.  The kind
>>that cause relationships to fail.  Even the kind that causes wars.

I agree with Stef's statements above.  When I find myself avoiding a
discussion/confrontation with someone on an issue that is annoying me, I
usually find it is due to the fact that I don't want to hurt the other person's
feelings.  If the issue at hand continues to annoy me and the person hasn't
gotten/taken any of the hints that I've given, I will take the intiative
and talk to that person and tell him/her my true feelings.  I try to do this as 
delicately as possible without getting upset.  However, if the other person
starts to get agitated I too may get the same way, but I really try not to.  If
the reaction to my request/gripe is too strong, I'll walk away for an
indefinite amount of time and usually wait for the person to contact me - I can
be very stubborn/patient when I feel an injustice has been done to me.

I think the best approach to any situation where there is a conflict is to nip
it in the bud before it blossoms into a full scale war.  This approach
seems to work well for me (as much as I may hate to confront the issue at hand
initially)...better now than later.

>    I'm really annoyed at the self-righteous tone of this thread.

I'm not.

Karen
kg@bbn.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: Ferret iso SF for hopping good times...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:35:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.170755.25669@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>
>Just once, I'd like to see a personal ad from someone seeking head
>games.                

Keep the brudders.  I know 'em already.  Blah.
-- 
-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
Nance Colucci                                      att!ihlpl!colucci
  "I'm not absolutely sure I want to do ANYTHING, so quit asking."
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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Ankle bracelets
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:35:38 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <221@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer) writes:
}Herb Huston (huston@access.digex.com) wrote:
}: In article <1993Jan6.215808.17973@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
}: }I imagine that in order to have one's clitoris pierced, unconciousness
}: }is a prerequisite.  Maybe it's just me, I dunno.
}: 
}: Female circumcision is still practiced in parts of Africa and Asia and
}: typically consists of excision of the clitoris and sometimes the labia.
}: The young girl is fully conscious, and no anesthetics or antiseptics are
}: used.
}
}Thank you ? for that ummm.... Very graphic mental image (ouch)...

You're welcome?  Sorry if it caused you to view your lunch again.  Wouldn't
it be nice if not talking about something caused it to go away?  The only
reason this practice has been on my mind recently is because of a local
newspaper story about a Somali girl who was brought in to an emergency room.
(There are many Somali refugees in the DC area).  Let's say that the doctors'
medical training had not prepared them for what they saw when they examined
her.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Subject: Re: Credibility and Trueness
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:13:14 GMT

In article <ewright.727932461@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <1993Jan24.001651.1625@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas) writes:
>
>Which is sometimes justified and sometimes not.  Unfortunately,
>some people, such as Charlie Martin, have accepted the idea that
>anything which makes them unhappy is somehow their fault.  Which 

Well, lesse, being that we are each responsible for our own happiness,
anything that makes you unhappy is your fault, by either allowing it, 
accepting it, not accepting it or refusing to change it. Situations and 
happenings may be beyond your control, but it's affect on your happiness 
is within your jurisdiction.

>is probably why Charlie, when not reinventing logic and mathematics,
>is busy having his head shrunk.

Being a shrinkie myself, (what do you think those meetings are on Tues.?:-)
I highly recommend it.  You should try it, Ed, it's great for getting rid 
of all that excess hot air.  Those headaches are a bitch, tho.


>The problem with being content is that it ensures you will never
>achieve anything more than what you've already got.  Change requires
>some effort, and summoning that effort requires some level of discontent.
>You just have to be content with that. ;-)

Well, this isn't total bullshit, but it isn't compost either.

Being content does not ensure you will never achieve anything more.  It 
means you are content where you are.  Content is good. It beats the hell
out of misery any day.  Content may be a stepping stone to happy or it 
could be one space on a continuim of content.   I will agree that change
requires effort and does, indeed, require a level of discontentment, and
when the present space is no longer adequate for contentment, you make
the change that allows you to move on to greater contentment.

>>peace, AND drugs are not the answer.
>
>If all you want to achieve is mindless contentedness, drugs
>probably are the answer.

Drugs may not be the answer, but they make a helluva fun question.




Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: walter (Walter Lego)
Subject: Re: Credibility...
Followup-To: soc.singles
Reply-To: nobody
Organization: Twisted Pair Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:20:57 GMT

In article <lmdjqaINNkr8@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> paydayyt@mindbender.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 8349@netcom.com, marcia@netcom.com (Marcia) writes:
>>now. The challenge of relationships: not only to be Mr/Ms Right now, but to
>>grow and change so that you keep being Mr/Ms Right.
>
>Sometimes as you and your SO grow, you don't grow in the same direction.  Your
>wants and desires may go in a completely different direction as that of your
>SO.  Your once Mr/Ms Right is no longer Mr/Ms Right.  The question is do you
>comprimise on your wants/needs to those of your SO to keep the relationship.
>I believe that each person has there own correct answer to this question.
>

While you can't prevent one arriving at such a predicament, there are a few
precautions one can take to reduce the chances:

1. Grow up sufficiently before one gets an SO.

2. Choose an SO that is sufficiently grown up.

3. Have a reasonable idea of the different ways one may want to live his/her 
life now and in the future and choose an SO based on that.

4. Get an understanding of how one's SO may wish to live his/her life now and in
the future and ponder where one might fit in that picture.

5. Remember that one has control (more than most people give credit for) over 
what one wants to change and/or grow into and evaluate it in the context of the 
limitations that every relationship imposes.

If you are not in a position to do any of the above or things change despite
the above precautions, realize that maintaining a relationship with someone
is as much a matter of good fortunes as finding someone suitable to start it 
with in the first place.

						Walter

What disclaimer?
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Sunbird a la 400ci)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: FAQ: Why do jerks "get" the girls/boys?
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:09:30 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1993Jan20.220907.23362@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>nin15b63@merrimack.edu (The Wolf) writes:

>] Has there ever been a FAQ compiled on why jerks get the girls?  If not, I am
>] volunteering.  Send your opinion.  E-mail it; don't post it.

>Andy,

>the real reason why Jerks[tm] get TheBabes[tm]
>is because we are Better in Bed than NiceGuys[tm].

Now how would they {TheBabes} know that if they never went for {TheNiceGuys}?
I think the "babes" have been tought by society to believe what men tell 
them, so naturally they will go out with the guy with the biggest ego.

That's ego, not eggo.

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Subject: Re: MWF?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:52:56 GMT

In article <16559@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>
>I think it means Males With Fantasies.

John, my little cumdrop. Right as always....



Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: La Biere(was: could be worse)
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:06:22 GMT

In article 16578@auspex-gw.auspex.com, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.000915.10181@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
 
>|At TheRedFox you have two choices of draft: 
>|Labatt's Blue or Kokanee Gold. The rest is
>|bottled beer from Japan or Molson Canadian
>|(which they DARE to call a pilsener...It tastes
>|NOTHING like Urquell, the reference pilsener from 
>|Pilzn...).
>
>Say, Dreas actually *does* no something about beer.  Actually, it's from 
>Pilzen. Pilsner Urquell.  One of my favorite dart pubs serves it.

Why thank you, John.
I was using the Czech(or is that Slovak, I forget) spelling.

I suggest you inspect the bottle more closely.
Or did they americanize the the label down your way? 

Not to pick a nit or anything, But I saw the name of the town
Spelled Pilzn if memory serves not to confuse me.

The brew is made with fresh Saaz hops and lots of barley malt.
It has a smooth, syrupy palate like any fine lager, not too bitter.
The alcohol content is about 4.5% by volume(haven't had one since August)

It is brewed at the Pilzenski Prazdroj in Pilzn(or Pilzen, both are OK).

dreas 



Newsgroups: soc.singles