HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Subject: MN Daily: Skateboarder nabs robery suspect
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:15:33 GMT


a little bit of irony, given that the U of M has recently banned
skateboarding on campus.


From U of MN Daily, Monday, 28 September 1992, cover and page 5 ROBBED


The U of M newspaper, the Daily, had the following cover story:

"Skateboarding is not a crime"

photo of clean cut looking skater, with his way small wheels and
sticker that says grind king on his trucks.

under the picture it says

"SKATEBOARD HERO: Responding to distress calls, J.J. Wollak skated down
 a would-be robber Thursday on the University's East Bank."

exerpts from the story..

"Some heroes come bearing arms; others come empty-handed.

Thursday night one came wielding a skateboard, when he
helped chase down a robbery suspect near Stadium Village.

Using his skateboard, J.J. Wollak, 18, helped catch Joey Dwight Brunner,
37, after Brunner allegedly stole a purse from two university women."

...

"It's ironic that we were skating at the U and caught a felon,"
Wollak said.  The University's board of regents banned skateboarding
on campus last spring.

...


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Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: 900361p@ace.acadiau.ca (MICHAEL CHARLES PIERCEY)
Subject: What in hell?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:32:12 GMT

Hey, I thought this was supposed to be alt.skate-board, not alt.geeks 
listing s.f. parties and star trek fax.  Wotta crowd of losers.  How do you 
fall safely at high speeds?  You don't, you fucking limp-wristed pansy!  You 
smash into the pavement and pray that you can pick the rocks out of your own 
pussy-white-not-through-puberty-think-nirvana-is-the-best-hardcore-band-
around-transworld-has-such-nice-pictures-skinny-loser-ass.  Wake up.
From: travis@athena.mit.edu (Richard T Atkins)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: shuttle records.
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:06:02 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

what's a 10 meter shuttle record?
From:  root@fnikola.sasco.georgia.su (root)
Subject: David Blair
Summary: David Blair
Keywords: David Blair
Reply-To: root@fnikola.sasco.georgia.su
Organization: Fond NIKALA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:29:11 +0300 

Hello David

Please, message to me your full E-mail address.

With best regard Kiazo Beriashvili

Tbilisi Georgia  29.09.92



Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: couey@well.sf.ca.us (Anna Couey)
Subject: Call for Telecommunications & Software Art
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:53:44 GMT


CALL FOR ART TELECOMMUNICATIONS & SOFTWARE

Telecommunications and software artists are invited to create,
initiate, or post online works, or send computer software for
display and interaction at the Third International Symposium on
Electronic Art (TISEA) to be held Nov. 9-13, 1992 in Sydney,
Australia.

TISEA will be the most significant symposium on electronic arts
culture ever staged in Australia. An international forum for artists,
scientists, musicians, critics, theorists and performers, TISEA will
provide a unique opportunity to explore questions concerning recent
developments in science, art, and technology and their impact on the
evolution of culture.

TISEA online activities include an open participation virtual panel
entitled "Cultures in Cyberspace" and a Public Access Terminal, from
which TISEA participants can access art networking systems and projects.
TISEA will also make available standalone computers for the display
of artists' software.

If you would like to display works on the Public Access Terminal or
the standalone computers, please send project description, biography, and
technical and/or equipment requirements if any immediately via email to
ANAT, Anna Couey, and Sue Harris and Phillip Bannigan.

Software artists are requested to send works on floppy disk by Oct 7,
1992, to directly to ANAT. Display machines include IBM, Amiga, and
MAC (Please note that the Australian video standard is PAL).

If you would like to participate in "Cultures in Cyberspace," please
contact Anna Couey for further information.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT:

Australian Network for Art & Technology
P.O. Box 8029 Hindley St.
Adelaide
5000 Australia
tel: 61.8.231.9037
fax: 61.8.211.7323
email: anat@peg.apc.org

Anna Couey
1077 Treat
San Francisco
CA 94110 USA
tel: 1.415.826.6743
email: couey@well.sf.ca.us

Susan Harris & Phillip Bannigan
ArtsNet
P.O Box 429
Eastwood S.A.
5063 Australia
tel: 61.8.272.6327
fax: 61.8.373.3756
email: suephil@peg.apc.org
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: axg20@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashwath Ganesan)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: The homosexuality thing...
Date: 6 Oct 1992 03:28:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: axg20@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashwath Ganesan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



Ok, a couple of clarification points:

1. I'm not homophobic, folks... I have no personal hang-ups whatsoever
about homosexuality, and thank you to T. Erik Browne for understanding
that ;)

2. Maybe I was a bit... hmm, hyberbolic in saying that homosexuality
can't exist.  Shall we say that it would be so strongly frowned
upon that it would be /apparently/ non-existent... meaning 'in the
closet' so to speak.  

While the social axiom can't dictate actions, it has a mjor effect on 
attitudes... which is what would cause this shunning of homosexuality.
Whoever mentioned the Maltese Falcon (was it the Grant man?) has 
an awfully good point.  So I'll concede that no problem.  Zorro the
gay blade, Mikey?  Please... survey says.... "X!"

About the Egyptian morality vs. judeo-christian.  Well, as far as I
can tell from the ne books and such... there's a relatively limited
bunch of folks with 'faith (egyptian)' and that's what would dictate
social norms related to religion for me.  While everything in the NE
has an egyptian tinge to it... it's still VERY western in basis, it 
seems.  And western pulp sort of pushed homosexuality into a dusty,
dark corner, so that people wouldn't see it... and it would seem
to me that's what the ne would do.

Does that make more sense?  <grin>

-Schwa.
-- 
I really don't mind, if you sit this one out...    | <= Jethro Tull
My words but a whisper, your deafness a shout.     | -Ashwath Ganesan-
I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.   | -among others-
Your sperm's in the gutter, your love's in the sink.| -axg20@po.cwru.edu-
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: We're not popular!
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:26:48 GMT

tbrowne@jarthur.claremont.edu (T. Erik Browne) writes:
> Come on, people, let's get on the ball.  Post that
> message you were thinking about posting.  Ask that question, write that
> adventure idea, discuss that sourcebook.  Heck, if it's interesting,

I -DID- only to have them die...

anyone remember the "how to kill an obnoxious (and powerful) party member"
question?
or the rather bizzarre question about Lorbatt sexuality?

(don't think anyone did,as they got no response/s...

the joys of lurking.....
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: REVIEW: "Out of Nippon"
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 21:17:41 GMT

In article <muumble> ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu writes:

>>>>>> "GRD" == Grant R. Davis <gdavis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> writes:
>
>GRD> Nigel Findley also wrote the Shadowrun novel '2XS', which was
>GRD> also a Mystery.
>
>A valiant attempt at creating a hard-boiled detective story in the
>Shadowrun universe. ][t failed. Miserably.

Actually, I thought 2XS wasn't bad until the last half of the book,
then it did kind of fall apart.

I wasn't able to find any other TORG credits for Nigel but he did
write "Pawns: The Opening Move" for WotC, which (unabashed plug again)
I get co-credit in for the TORG conversion notes.  

-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /|\\|
From: jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu (James H. Kiley)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: TorgMUSH
Date: 4 Oct 92 02:33:44 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.

jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
> In article <mumble> jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu (James H. Kiley) writes:
>>jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
> 
>>> How about we find a new site for the mailing list first?  PLEEEZZEE!
>>> I can't take much more of this!  Aaaauuuugghhh!
>>
>>And they told me back at Guru School that once you reached True Guru status, 
>>you'd acheive a modicum of mental stability.  For *shame*, Kansas Jim... :)
> 
> But without an opportunity to constantly use that guruness, the
> immense power and knowledge begin to eat away at your very mind,
> ruining your mental stability, turning your brain into oatmeal!!!
> Aughh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> (And the newsgroup is NO subsititute when 90% of the messages get
> purged before I even see them since I'm working graveyard shifts now.)
> 
> -- 
> Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
> jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
> "I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /|\\|
							     ^^^^^^
						What *is* this thing? :)
						I mean, besides a bad ascii 
						graphic... :)


Well, if you're working *graveyards*... then you'll probably see this.
Hi, Jim.


Jim
From: axg20@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashwath Ganesan)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Homosexuality in the Nile
Date: 4 Oct 1992 21:55:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: axg20@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashwath Ganesan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



I'm gonna put a big ol' bullseye on my chest and say:

No, the Nile Empire has no homosexuality?  Why?  I mean, they existed
in the '30s right?  Well, the only reason the NE is IN the 30's is because
it fits the pulp fiction era.  And if the pulp fiction is the driving
force of the Nile Empire, then nothing that isn't supported by 
pulp fiction should have an easy time fitting in there.  Thus, they
wouldn't have it.  You could consider it being a contradiction of the
Law of Morality... and before you get the flamethrowers.  Remember, the
NE Law of Morality is very restricting... good and evil, no grey...
so it's not /accurate/... it just is. 

Then again, if someone can name pulp fiction that had homosexuality in it...
I'll gladly eat my words.


Speaking of the Nile Empire... THREE people in my party of six (I'm a player,
not GM) just transformed to Nile Empire... the Akashan Monitor, the British
Psychic, and the Cyberpap Templar Knight... GEESH!  How fraggin'
ridiculous... but it's Soooooooo funny!

The Akashan had a fit... until he found out that he had a lens... ala
E.E. 'doc' Smith's Lensman books... then he was happy.  The Cyberpapist 
has rollerskates strapped to his cyberfeet, and uses ski-poles to push
himself along... and the britsh psychic also found himself a lens.  Hee.
Oh yeah, the C.E detective prodigy ALSO transformed... so make that four..
and he's suddenly an alcholoic... it's GREAT!  Hee!

Just thought I'd say that.

Oh, and Please please please please find TorgMUSH a site... I'll be
your best friend... really!!

-Ashwath, aka Dr. Mobius, desparately seeking a new cosm to conquer 
 (ie. a new site).
-- 
I really don't mind, if you sit this one out...    | <= Jethro Tull
My words but a whisper, your deafness a shout.     | -Ashwath Ganesan-
I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.   | -among others-
Your sperm's in the gutter, your love's in the sink.| -axg20@po.cwru.edu-
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: Nigel Findley
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 03:53:26 GMT

In article <mumble> cbekar@fraser.sfu.ca (Clifford Bekar) writes:

>I have had the pleasure of being involved in some of his
>"home brewed" scenarios fo SR and AD&D and can only say that
>if WEG lands him as a source book/adventure author TORG will
>be better off for it.  Just check out the SR source books he
>penned, quality stuff.

He does have a good grasp of how Nippon works (which isn't too
surprising, given his SR work) so maybe we can expect a module set in
NT in the future (I expect after the Tokyo Citybook there will be a
module set in Tokyo shortly thereafter.)

-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /|\\|
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: bchoinsk@nyx.cs.du.edu (Burton Choinski)
Subject: Mechanical repair
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: alt.games.torg
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:58:19 GMT

I have an interesting situation that came up, and I don't have the land
vehicles guide, so I don't know if it is answered there.

In my group here they were chasing a pair of goblins riding wolves in the
realm runner's jeep.  catching up, they ramed one (doing some shock and
one wound) to the jeep (I used the ord table).  Later, they rammed another
set and did 4 more wounds plus the KO plust the 17 shock.  The jeep now
has 5 wounds and a pile of shock.

Now, Jeeps are not living things.  If you "kill" it on the table, supposedly
it is not obliterated (not up to 7 wounds yet), so it should still be
able to be repaired.

The realm runner template gives scholar (Mechanic, but there is no
indication of how this is used.

Now, in their case they shrugged and moved on without the dead jeep since 
"they did not have the parts to repair it", but I know this will come
up again sometime.

In the case there are no hard rules, how does this sound (NOTE: very rough,
just thought up)

1) base difficulty equals 10 for shock repairs (1 hour)
2) base difficulty equals 10, plus 3 per wound level for wound repairs 
   (1 day)
3) base difficulty equals 10 for K and O repairs (4 hours)

(I choose 10, since yer average mechanic will have an attribute of 8, 
+2 skill).  If this assumption is bad, please let me know.)

Shock and wound rolls may be made one by one, or rolled into the OoM table
if you can deal with the difficulty.

Extra multiples of time may be spent to increase the roll, i.e. spending 10
days on wound repair gives you a +5.

GM must determine if the parts required for repair are on hand.  I'd say
10x the number of wounds as a target, with an extra roll if they have 
something to scavenge, two extra rolls if they have a junkyard nearby.
(thus, in the above case, a target of 50 is needed.  Roll, reroling on 10's
amd 20's and note the number.  As they come upon sources, add another roll
if you wish.

Comments?
     -- Burton
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: sleibowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: How many ways to die
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:41:49 GMT

In article <80449@ut-emx.uucp>, gdavis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Grant R. Davis) writes: 
> In the Cyberpapacy, you can be GOSUBbed to Hell, chipped, excommunicated,
> soul-sucked, flechetted, derezzed, burned, branded, crucified, or occasionally
> used as reactor shielding.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

:-) Hmm.  Methinks we have a part-time Paranoia player here...

						Your humble servant,
						    Smiling Wolf
sleibowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu
"Boo."
From: usenet@transfer.stratus.com (Mr. Network News)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: Homosexuality in the Nile
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:14:44 GMT
Reply-To: Dave_Wetzel@vos.stratus.com
Organization: Dave_Wetzel

In article <1anp8sINNpa7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> axg20@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashwath 
Ganesan) writes:

I have no idea how this thread came up in a game context...  oh well...  

* WARNING*: I will try to be polite, though I have little patience with 
homo-phobia.

> No, the Nile Empire has no homosexuality?  Why?  ...
> You could consider it being a contradiction of the
> Law of Morality... and before you get the flamethrowers.  Remember, the
> NE Law of Morality is very restricting... good and evil, no grey...
> so it's not /accurate/... it just is. 

Well, if you want to specificly ban homosexuality, you'll have to come up 
with some other (ir)rationale.  The Law of Morality doesn't prohibt any 
action, it *classifies* actions, therefore I suppose you might say 
homosexuality is evil, but you couldn't say it can't exist.  I personally 
refuse to believe that homosexuals are evil.

And before you go off doing this, remember that NE is not Christian 
Morality, it's Egyptian.  You should do some research into Egyptian gods 
and society (perhaps someone on the net can answer this already).

You also can't claim homosexuality as a contradiction to the social axiom 
as, clearly there have been homosexuals in historical societies that would 
have lower social axioms.

No, if you're homo-phobic enough to really want to outlaw it, you'll have 
to make it a world law.  May I suggest the Law of GM Homo-phobia?  Or 
perhaps just counciling?

--------------
Dave_Wetzel@vos.stratus.com
From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: Reconnection
Date: 6 Oct 1992 20:16:31 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1992Oct6.192315.11384@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> agreene@mta.ca writes:
>to be really easy to repair the link even if it does get broken.
>If a Storm Knight fails a reconnection roll, can't he just try the 
>next round?  If the rules say something, SOMEWHERE, please, let someone

	The official word from WEG is that, if you disconnect in round play
(i.e. combat), you can attempt to reconnect once a round.  OTherwise, 
you can only attempt to reconnect once per scene.

	I don't like that, as there doesn't seem to be a rationale for it.
What I do is, you can make an attempt to reconnect the next round, and
if you fail, you cannot try again for the value of how much you missed by.
(so if you missed the reco. roll by N, which tranlates to 90 on the value
chart, you can't reconnect for 90 seconds (or 9 rounds).  

>I've another trouble with reality (plenty of them, actually, but I'm
>talking about TORG here).  Are places in Core Earth considered PURE
>ZONES?  It only seems to make sense.  But then, if S.K.s cannot make
>contradictions in pure zones without reality bubbles, that really limits
>them during an adventure in Core Earth.

	Most of Core Earth is Dominant.  When in CE, assume the zone is
dominant unless told otherwise.  (According to WEG)
	Only really important areas of Earth should be pure.  (New York
and Washington, pre-invasion.  Paris.  London. etc.)
-- 
Rick Jones				Systems Support Center
albert@bcm.tmc.edu			Baylor College of Medicine
Voice: 713-798-7352			standard disclaimers apply
Sky fits heaven, so ride it.  		Remote has button, so MUTE it.
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: agreene@mta.ca
Subject: Reconnection
Reply-To: agreene@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:23:15 GMT

I've been playing TORG since Decemeber.  It's a cool game with
plenty of innovative rules (I love the Drama Deck), but I have a
lot of trouble with many of the Everlaws and other rules on reality.
I hope someone can tell me if I'm doing things wrong, but it seems
to me like Disconnection is not a very big deal.  First, it rarely
ever happens (especially One-case contradictions).  Plus, it seems
to be really easy to repair the link even if it does get broken.
If a Storm Knight fails a reconnection roll, can't he just try the 
next round?  If the rules say something, SOMEWHERE, please, let someone
show me!  In my campaign the disconnection for passive equipment (the
roll made at the beginning of every scene) was only an inconvenience that
slowed down the game, since the S.K.s had plenty of time to reconnect
before the action started.


I've another trouble with reality (plenty of them, actually, but I'm
talking about TORG here).  Are places in Core Earth considered PURE
ZONES?  It only seems to make sense.  But then, if S.K.s cannot make
contradictions in pure zones without reality bubbles, that really limits
them during an adventure in Core Earth.
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu (James H. Kiley)
Subject: Re: TorgMUSH
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:36:23 GMT

jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
> In article <mumble> jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu (James H. Kiley) writes:
[snip]
>>Given a real site (what's a real site?  About 10 Meg or so for right now, 
>>with reasonably reliable access and a 'god' account for code upgrades and 
>>such if possible, unless you're willing to do such things yourself)  What 
>>we *do* want is an okay from your sysadmin--we don't want to get busted for 
>>running a game without permission.

I ought to be more specific here--the 'god' account doesn't need any kind of 
superuser privileges, it just has to be an account for our 'god' to do Code
Things, and bring the game up after any unfortunate crashes.
 
> How about we find a new site for the mailing list first?  PLEEEZZEE!
> I can't take much more of this!  Aaaauuuugghhh!

And they told me back at Guru School that once you reached True Guru status, 
you'd acheive a modicum of mental stability.  For *shame*, Kansas Jim... :)

> -- 
> Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
> jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
> "I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /|\\|
--
Not-Kansas Jim (Jim Kiley, TORGMUSH guru ;)
jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu