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From: klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: imake and psroff
Date: 30 Sep 1992 15:32:57 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
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Keywords: imake, psroff

In article <Bv9Du2.1F3@atherton.com>, shakeel@s3tech.com (Shakeel Mahate)
writes:
|> The variable TROFF has been assigned the utility "psroff"
|> Is psroff public domain software?
|> Where can I get it?

(This isn't really an answer to your question.) Whether psroff is public
domain or not I don't know - I guess it is not. However, it is available
without charge. On the other hand, the fact that Imake.tmpl defines
TroffCmd as psroff does not mean your are forced to use psroff for
formatting - it's just the opposite. For example, I have the lines

#ifndef TroffCmd
#define TroffCmd groff -Tdvi -E
#endif

in our site.def file, which is very useful because it produces DVI output
and we can print DVI files directly on our heavy-duty laser printer.


|> I am trying to use imake to build makefiles for a non X application
|> software?
|> Has anyone in the networld tried this before?

Yes, this is possible - most likely even without fiddling around with
Imake's configuration files. Even if you don't use X functions or header
files, the -I and -L flags for compiler and linker specifying some X paths
won't harm. And you could do a lot more nice stuff with Imake: For example
I have written Imake rules helping to prepare documents with TeX, including
automatic generation of PostScript figures from images of certain formats.


|> How does one build a SimpleProgramTarget with debug option on, or
|> for that matter any ProgramTarget?

Add the line
CDEBUGFLAGS = -g
to the Imakefile or start the compilation with "make CDEBUGFLAGS=-g".


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: gwally@admiral.uucp (greg wallace)
Subject: Desktop Patterns/Pictures under OpenDesktop
Reply-To: gwally@admiral.uucp (greg wallace)
Organization: The Grid/Waffle BBS, 203-661-2873, -1279, -0450, -2967
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:15:08 GMT

A generalized question:  Can I display a picture image, GIF, TIFF, etc., 
as a background image under Open Desktop 1.1?
        I am currently only able to display a solid color image as the 
back drop under SCO's Open Desktop 1.1 X windows program, and I was 
wondering if it is at all possible to display a bitmapped image or some 
sort of binary image as the background.  What I refering to is something 
simular to the capablities that the graphical workstations, Sun,etc. are 
capabable of displaying.
        I'd like to thank any respondent in advance,
                        gwally

p.s. the color image of the background, as mentioned above is really not 
an image per say, but the actual background color mapping as set 
externally before initiating the X server.


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From: jimj@miller.cs.uwm.edu (James Jegers)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X-window bar chart software?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 15:02:13 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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In article <19221@smoke.brl.mil>, yih@tbd2.brl.mil (Yolin I. Huang ) writes:
|> 
|> there is a need to plot bar charts on X-window environment.  I checked
|> Xfig, Gnuplot, Tgif; it seems that these packages don't do bar charts that
|> easily (as, for instance, in DOS Lotus 1-2-3).  I am wondering, if there
|> are available packages to do bar charts? ftp sites?
|> 
|> Thanks in advance.
|> 
|> Yolin Huang
|> yih@brl.mil, Maryland.

 Here are UW-Milwaukee we have written a X based Spreadsheet
that does graphing.. pie charts, bar charts.. etc..

From what i've seen it can do some amazing things..

where:  ftp vernam.cs.uwm.edu    dir (soft-eng/xspread1.?.tar.Z)

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From: jf1@forth.stirling.ac.UK (Mr Jonathon Fletcher)
Subject: XServer and Xt Timeouts
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:01:20 GMT


A problem - I am having some difficulty with a piece of code that make use of 
the Xt Timout calls (XtAddTimeOut). The code compiles fine, links fine, and
appears to execute fine, but the timeouts are just not called. I am using
an HP 700/RX xterm, with (what I think is) a release 4 server, Motif 1.1,
and release 8.05 of HP-UX, and release 4 libraries. I have moved the code
across to a different machine, runing release 7 of HP-UX, Motif 1.0, 
and a release 3 server (release 4 libraries), where it compiles and
executes correctly (ie the timeouts are called) without any problems. Can
anyone offer me suggestions as to what is going wrong ? Please email to
me and I will summarise to the net.

Thanks in advance,

	-Jon


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From: gram@aim1.aztec.co.za (Graham Wheeler)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: XFree86 - where is it?
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:49:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: aim1.gram.717860987
Organization: Aztec Information Management

Hi all

I am looking for an X server that will work on an ATI VGA Wonder SVGA card. I
believe that XFree86 will do it. Is this available anywhere?

Thanks in advance
Graham

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: herrage@crchh451.bnr.ca (Robert Herrage)
Subject: Question Regarding XtMainLoop()
Reply-To: herrage@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 13:54:43 GMT

I'm currently encountering a problem that I'm guessing is caused by 
XtMainLoop().  First of all, does XtMainLoop() look for events based
on the order in which things have "registered" to be monitored by it?
Let me give you an example.

I have a dialog that I'm wanting to popup.  I've also used XtAppAddInput()
to monitor a socket (this is done way before the dialog is requested to be
popped up).  What ends up happening is that there is a case where my appli-
cation gets a burst of data on the socket.  These all seem to be handled
BEFORE the dialog ever gets popped up -- even though I called XtPopupDialog()
BEFORE the burst begins.

Is this due to the fact that XtAddAppInput() has some entry in some array
that XtMainLoop() looks at so that it sees the socket-related events for it 
BEFORE it ever processes any event(s) for the dialog?  If this is the case, 
how can I prioritize the order in which things get processed?

What I want to have happen is that as soon as the function, that made the 
call to XtPopupDialog(), returns, I want to see my dialog on the screen
(not just a box, but all of the subwidgets within it).  Then as each block
of data comes on the socket, I want to update the contents of the dialog. 

I tried using XFlush(), but that doesn't seem to change a thing, which is
what led me to believe that XtMainLoop() might just be doing a top-down
search for events and, hence, always handling something from the socket
before handling stuff for the dialog.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Rob

P.S. This is with X11R4, in case that helps.
From: der@ctron.com (Bill Der)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: cannot restart X
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:43:50 GMT
Reply-To: der@ctron.com (Bill Der)
Organization: Cabletron Systems Inc


I must admit that I am a novice on X. I am in a situation in which
I cannot restart X. Whenever I type xinit, I get the
message "Waiting for X Server to Shut Down". I suspect there is
a lock file somewhere, but can't find it. Re-booting doesn't help.
Help!
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: naftaly@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer)
Subject: Re: X-based Typing Tutor
Keywords: X typing tutor
Reply-To: naftaly@dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:46:43 GMT


In article <3579@babcock.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu>, abmg@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Aliasghar Babadi) writes:
>Hi,
>	Is there a ftpable X based typing tutor available ? Thanks
>in advance for your replies.

Please post the answers (if any). 

thaks, 

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From: sasarh@demetris.unx.sas.com (Tony Hefner)
Subject: Non-proportional scrollbars
Originator: sasarh@demetris.unx.sas.com
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:08:42 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


The discussion about proportional scrollbars has led me to post
a problem I face with the critters.  How do you handle the case
where you don't know in advance how big the total scrolled area
is?  Say you are generating data on-the-fly, and the only way to
know how much data there will be is to generate it all, which
would be prohibitively expensive.  Therefore, you simply generate
the area that the user is viewing as he scrolls around.  Any
thoughts on intuitive user scrolling for this case?

                   -- Tony Hefner (aka sasarh@unx.sas.com)
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17529 comp.windows.open-look:4053
From: vlee@csws16.ic.sunysb.edu (Violet Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.motif,comp.windows.open-look
Subject: X server colormap being changed mysteriously
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:36:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.windows.x
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

DON'T SEND MAIL TO THIS ACCOUNT.  PLEASE POST TO NEWSGROUP OR SEND
MAIL TO ivanl@fdc.com.  THANKS.
	
We developed a set of X applications that run on various Unix platforms.
The following problem had occurred ocassionally on Sun running OW3.0,
IBM running AIX 3.2 and DECstation 5000 running Ultrix 4.2.

A user started the window system an our applications and left them
running continuously for about 2-3 days.  Suddenly, some colors on
the screen changed.  It seemed that the default colormap had been changed
and sometimes even the RGB values for black and white pixels had been
changed.

* No other programs were running besides ours.

* Either Mwm or Olwm is used.

* Each of our programs has two verisons: Motif (statically linked
  to Motif 1.1.1) and OPEN LOOK (statically linked to OLIT 2.5).

* None of the programs installs private colormap.  They all use the
  default colormap.

* Each program allocates one read/write color cell (using
  XAllocColorCells(..., 1)) once during start up.  This RGB value of
  this color cell is being changed (using XStoreColor) infrequently
  during the lifetime of the program.

* Some programs make a lot of calls to XAllocColor().

* Memory and swap space are sufficient.

* No X protocol error or warning messages.

* The colormap should have plenty of free cells left in a 8-bit frame
  buffer.

I wrote a simple program to check the number of free cells in the
default colormap, it does somethig like this:

   count = 0;
   while (XAllocColorCells(..., 1))  /* while successfully get 1 r/w cell */
      count++;
   printf("%d\n", count);
   exit(0);

I ran this program immediately after the problem mentioned above had
occurredon an IBM and it caused the X server (R4) to crash.  I do not
have a chance to run this test on other machines yet.

Most likely the problem is caused by our programs.  But how can
the default colormap be changed while our programs do not do things
like XInstallColormap?  Why did the X server crash?

I really appreciate if anybody can help me on this.  This is 
EXTREMELY URGENT.  Sorry for the cross-posting.

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THANKX.
From: totty@flute.cs.uiuc.edu (Brian Totty)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Wanted: "bitmap gallery" utility
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:28:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: m.1992Sep27.172839.13467
Organization: Picasso Group, DCS, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

>    Hi folks,
>I need a utility which displays many bitmaps in a single window 
>(e.g. displays 25 30x30 bitmaps), preferably ALL the bitmaps contained 
>in a directory. Does such an animal exist?

	The Free Widget Foundation has a widget called 'ImageSelector' that
	displays a 2-D array of Pixmaps, with optional text labels, and allows
	them to be selected.  The test program with the widget displays
	character images from a user-chosen font, but the code could be
	easily changed to display the bitmaps in a directory.

	For more info about the Free Widget Foundation, send mail to
	free-widgets-request@kazoo.cs.uiuc.edu.

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From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Drawing editor running under X-windows?
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:32:41 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Hi,
We need to make a proposal to a big manufacturer.  I'm looking
for a drawing editor ( E-size ) running under X-Windows on a risc machine.
The system will be able to scan E-size format, to modify and make cut & paste
between pages as well as writing on the page in different fonts.
An automatic translator for the text will be available or integrate.
The system will be able to import CAD drawings.
Does anyone know a solution ?

Thank you for your help

Regards
Christian
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: EBERLIN@engvax.picker.com (Barb Eberlin)
Subject: test1
Organization: Picker International
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:00:58 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

just a test
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Subject: Re: Upgrading from X11R4 to X11R5 
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:12:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep22.205023.9521@cti.com> kmeek@cti.com (Kevin Meek) writes:
>Do you have to run fs in order to use X11R5??
No.
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Setting Window CLASS name with Xlib
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:51:33 GMT
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

#How do I set a window's CLASS name using only Xlib calls?

Set the window's WM_CLASS property, to two text strings separated by a
null, the first of which is the name and the second the Class.


In article <921002095655.21c0017a@TGV.COM> mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan) writes:
>If you are using Xlib only, then you do not have transparent access to 
>resources. 

True, but mwm does, and mwm has some resource-controlled options which
key off the application's class name.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Anybody use the -S option with xterm (was "Help with UNIX and X needed")
Followup-To: comp.windows.x
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:00:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct01.221551.21132@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
:    My previous post ("Help with X and UNIX") asked the following

:   Or someone could help me with the -e option on xterms.  It
:seems to have this annoying feature.  The window pops up, it
:runs the command with the -e feature, and then it dies.  Is there
:any sensible way to keep this window around?  I have already tried
:putting the & (as in xterm -e ls &) and it still goes away
:after completion.  It seems like a really silly thing for
:it to do.  I would prefer that it just ran, then sit there
:doing nothing when it is done.
:

Well, "xterm -e command" means 'start a window, run command, go away'.  If
you don't want the xterm window to go away, you need to run a different 
command!  For instance, if you wish to have a window pop up with the date
in it, then do something like:

$ cat pgdate
#! /bin/sh
date | less
exit 0

$ chmod 755 pgdate
$ xterm -e ./pgdate &


and unless your less is strange, you get the output in a window which waits
for you to press q.

Now if you mean you want to run a command and then have a shell prompt
after that, then you have to get fancier...  Add a line like:

$ cat datesh
#! /bin/sh
date
/bin/sh

$ xterm -e ./datesh

and off you go!
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From: jisyoon@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (Jinsoo Yoon)
Subject: Athena widget for X11R5?
Keywords: athena widget, I18N/L10N
Organization: KAIST
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:34:15 GMT

I'd like to see whether there is any available internationalized athena widget
implementation. What I mean is that various languages such as Chinese, Korean,
and Japanese can be edited within the athen text widget if I have a
corresponding Input Method Server and locale definition. Also menu or message
would be shown in the above languages. In X11R5, there is Xlib level I18N APIs
and sample implementations. What about athena widget?

Please post information to this group or send it to me if you have.

Thanks in advance,

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: devuns@alsys.fr (Olivier Devuns)
Subject: RE: XDM and Console Windows
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:18:16 GMT

>> The console problem was solved with OpenWindows 3.0 by setting the good
>> protection bits on /dev/console during xdm initialization :
>> 
>> In the file /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xstartup :
>> 
>
>Actually, shouldn't you be restoring the permissions back to their
>original state from within /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xreset?

In theory yes, but I can live without that. Either an user is logged on
the display, and thus needs ownership of the 'console', or you just have
the xdm login box because nobody uses the display. In this latter case, 
other users do not need console access. Root and the kernel are not
affected by the permissions that are 'left' there -- That is, they can
garble the login screen when they want to !

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From: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Running DOS application from X-Station
Originator: kjenks@gothamcity
Keywords: dos unix x-windows
Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:22:39 GMT

In article <5817@news.duke.edu> maria@acpub.duke.edu (Maria Spicer) writes:
>Help me out here.  I have been thinking about purchasing DESQview/X,
>[...]  It was not my understanding
>that I should need anything else new besides the software.  Can someone
>please clarify?

You will also need some TCP/IP driver software to go underneath
DESQview/X.  FTP Software's PC/TCP and LAN Workplace for DOS both
work.

-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368

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      space programs.  We view technology transfer as a way of life.  
      It's one of our top priorities." -- Daniel S. Goldin, NASA Administrator
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From: rchui@nswc-wo.nswc.navy.mil (Raymond Chui)
Subject: Re: format of X11 fonts?
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center - White Oak
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 15:20:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.035945.27893@hemlock.cray.com>, marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron) writes:
|
|> Simple question: what's the internal format of an X11 .snf font?
|> 

X11R4 used *.snf, X11R5 used *.pcf.

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From: mstorey@csr.UVic.CA (Margaret-Anne D Storey)
Subject: Explicit Positioning of Windows
Originator: mstorey@csr
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 22:57:50 GMT

Hi,

I am currently in the midst of writing a large motif system running
on an IBM RS6000.  This system has many windows.  I would like to be
able to explicity position the windows (shells) myself.  Is there
some way to do this?

Many thanks in advance!
Peggy Storey,
University of Victoria,
British Columbia,
Canada.
(mstorey@csr)
From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Per Display Information
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:36:03 GMT
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

Hi netters,

silly question time, and it was only asked a few weeks ago to. I'd never seen
the problem til about an hour ago, so of course, like a lemon I ignored it.

It only happens on SPARC 2 executables that have been purified.

Application starts up, puts up a collection of widgets that form one interface
(Motif based) and then when it attempts to put up a XmMainWindow containing
a drawing area it says:

Error: couldn't find per display information

and then exits.

This hsa been working for in excess of 2 years and I've never seen this
behaviour til now. We've been using Purify since May (or whenever) and none
of the environment has been changed since earlier today (when it was working).

I know this error comes from fprintf, which is called from deep inside X,
I can't remember where, but _XtDefaultErrorMsg rings a bell. Not sure about
the underscore either.

This has apparently happened to someone else here, and her problem went away
without anyone finding out what caused it. I don't have sources here, otherwise
I'd try to have a look myself :-).

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Thanks in anticipation
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