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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:24:28 -0500
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Subject:      survey information request

We are almost at the end of our Title III grant.  I have been asked
to develop a survey to gain responses from students concerning
the "ease of use" of our INNOPAC.  Has anyone developed
such a survey?
The survey will include not only questions about our OPAC,
but also questions on our online search services and
interlibrary loan -- both of which were partially funded by
Title III.

I would appreciate any samples of questionnaires, along
with effective methods of administering the survey.
(Possibilities for distributing the survey the(that)
we have discussed are:  sending them to faculty to have
students complete the surveys several week after the
class has come to the library for instruction; asking
students to complete the survey after they have asked
a question at the Reference Desk. We also have to
distribute surveys to students who take classes at
off campus sites and who dial into the OPAC from off
campus sites.)
Any and all ideas will be appreciated.
Please send ideas or sample surveys directly to me.
I will summarize for the list.
I will be off campus 12/19/92 to 1/3/93.  I would
appreciate responses before January 6, since the survey
needs to be distributed by the end of February.

Thank you.

Gail M. Staines
Coordinator of Library Instruction
Library Learning Center
Niagara County Community College
3111 Saunders Settlement Rd.
Sanborn, NY  14132
fax:  716-731-7118
phone: 716-731-3271, ext. 406
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From:         JJMWML@RITVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Type of barcodes used

We are in the process of converting from OCR-A to barcode, and
wanted to know which barcode scheme other sites are using.  If you
could respond with the barcode scheme you are using, I would
appreciate it...Code39, Codabar...

Jonathan Millis
Wallace Library
Rochester Institute of Technology
JJMWML@RITVAX
716-475-2008
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From:         LBABCOC@BGSUOPIE.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Indexing for Su Docs

Reply to Angelina Joseph:

Linda ME? If the message re: sudoc records from you was really meant to
be sent to me, there is something wrong.  I'm pretty much just a reader of
e-mail and I haven't sent you any message that I'm aware of.  Sorry.
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From:         abartlet@ALLEG.EDU

        I have a question about searching on the INNOPAC and uniform
titles.  In our database both the title(245) and uniform title(240)
fields have an INNOPAC tag of "t".  When searching by author, the
INNOPAC defaults to the uniform title field.  Unfortunately, some
uniform titles are sufficiently vague as to prevent  some patrons
from identifying the book.  We are experimenting with cross
references.  Are there any other useful solutions out there?

Alan Bartlett
Lawrence Lee Pelletier Library
Allegheny College
Internet address: abartlet@alleg.edu
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From:         Sara Amato <samato@WILLAMETTE.EDU>
Subject:      Review Files

Perhaps the explaination to the quandry is that the system includes the
|a at the beginning of each field in these searches.  This would explain why
the "France" in subfield a [|afrance] would be found in a search for "afr",
but would not be picked up in a subfield.

*****************************************************************
Sara Amato - Willamette University - samato@willamette.edu
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Subject:      Re: Review Files -Reply -Reply
To: Multiple recipients of list INNOPAC
 <INNOPAC%MAINE.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>

   Concerning Terry Ballard's message that a HAS search will
> bring up the search
> string in any order -- I thought the HAS option was a straight
> string search,
> inclusive and not case sensitive.  Something else must be going
> on.
> Joe Wynne
> University of Virginia Law Library

   Other things are going on, but I will stand by my orginal
statement.  Just to be sure, I ran a test file of records
containg France in the sub heading.  Of the six that I called up,
3 had France as the initial subject term, and three had it in a
geographic subdivision.  Next, I ran a second file to search the
first one for Subject H(as) AFR.  I got four records - the three
that had France as the initial term and one record that had
Africa in a geographic subdivision.  Curiouser and curiouser.

|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Terry Ballard      |    ballard@panther.adelphi.edu           |
| Systems Librarian  |    or ballard@auvax1.adelphi.edu         |
| Adelphi University |    Garden City, New York, 11530          |
| 516-877-3547       |    Fax: 516-877-3592                     |
|                    |                                          |
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*   perpetual sense of wonder in the face of something that     *
*   forever grows one step richer and subtler than our latest   *
*   theory about it.  It is about reverance, not mastery."      *
*                                                               *
*           Richard Powers from the Gold Bug Variations         *
*                                                               *
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:55:16 EST
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From:         ZANTON@MAINE.BITNET
Subject:      III tour

FR: T. Zantow, Chair, INNOPAC Music Users Group
RE: tour of III during 1993 MLA

In addition to the regular IMUG meeting Thursday evening, Feb. 4,
Innovative Interfaces has graciously offered us a tour of their
facilities.  The tour is scheduled for Wednesday, February 3, 3-6 p.m.,
with the logistics of getting us there to be worked out over the next
few weeks.  If you are interested in the tour, please keep that time
open.  I will communicate further information about the tour via IMUG-L
(IMUG-L@OHSTVMA) in January.  I look forward to seeing you then!

Best holiday wishes!

.. T Zantow .. <ZANTON@MAINE>
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From: rnoia@netcom.com (Roger F. Noia)
Subject: Re: In library use problem
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:37:55 GMT

In article <01GSGC53239E8YD07U@vms.csd.mu.edu> ANGELINA JOSEPH <9725JOSEPHA@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU> writes:
>In the grocery store the upc codes for the same items are the same.
>7UP will get the same upc code, so if somebody is buying 10 bottles
>the person at the check out need to scan one bottel and multiply by
>10, where as in barcodes for books, each barcode is different even
>though they may be representing the same kind of materials - copies
>of the same title


no no no...
we have chosen not to barcode older copies of periodicals...
so we have a binder of titles.. each title gets one barcode.
San Jose Mercury News gets 1, WSJ gets one.. and so on...
if a patron requests 90 Wall Street Journals.. we don't want to
wand the Wall Street Journal barcode 90 times... we want to
wand it ONCE and then multiply by 90... 

roger
rnoia@NETCOM.COM

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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:59:04 -0800
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From:         rible@SOSC1.SOSC.OSSHE.EDU
Subject:      Canon BJ-300 Printers

We are considering printers for our III PAC.  Has anyone tried the
Canon BJ-300?  I've seen all the remarks on the Panasonic 2123.  Has
anyone compared the two?  I will be happy to summaraize any remarks
sent to me personally.  Thank you.

Jim Rible
Southern Oregon State College Library
Ashland OR 97520
503/552-6821
Internet: rible@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu
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From:         steveb@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU
Subject:      Anne Myers' authority Q

Both authority recs for Dead Sea Scrolls are for the uniform
title.  A subject search for Dead Sea Scrols will find recs
in your catalog with 630s; a subj search for, say, Jericho
Scrolls, or Qumran Scrolls will find nada.  The Dead Sea
Scroll subject search will also bring up that cryptic sh
authority rec.  A title search for Dead Sea Scrolls will find
recs with 130s, 730s.  Title search for Qumran Scrolls will
bring up the see ref.  I think if you want a see ref to come up
on a subject search for Qumran Scrolls, you'd have to key in
an authority rec for Dead Sea Scroll plus all the see froms and
see also--tagged as subject headings.  Check me on this.
Are your other recs in both naf and saf also uni titles?
Or is Dead Sea Scrolls anomalous even among this category?
Our head of cataloging will be very very disappointed in me
if I've misreported our discussion; I'm looking forward to
other replies.
--Steve
Steve Bade, Graduate Theological Union Library
steveb@garnet.berkeley.edu
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From:         "_Doug DeLong, Illinois State University" <AXVISDG@UICVMC.BITNET>
Subject:      VACQ interface with subscription vendors

 All Faxon customers, I assume, received a letter dated Nov 10 regarding changes
  in their machine-readable invoice service.  As a user of the VACQ interface wi
 th subscsription vendors we were interested in several aspects of this letter (
 which was copied to III).  Faxon is going to a 10 digit title number; I assume
 that can be handled easily, as can the ISO standard date (YYMMDD).  The impor-t
 ant change, though, is the phasing out of DC600/HC tape cartridges for invoice
 transfer, including annual renewals.
 Is anyone aware of III's plans for adoption, especially for VACQ only sites,
 of a system that transfers data rapidly?  We also use the approval and
 electronic ordering interfaces and both move very slowly.

 Douglas A. DeLong, Acquisitions Librarian
 Milner Library, Illinois State University, Normal, IL  61761
 Tel: (309)438-3450______Bitnet:  AXVISDG@UICVMC.BITNET
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From:         Amy Graham <agraham1@CC.SWARTHMORE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: uniform titles

Dear Alan,

There has been a lot of discussion about this topic recently on the
INNOPAC.  The Tri-college Consortium (Swarthmore, Haverford and Bryn Mawr
Colleges) decided to delete the 240 field and add in a 700 field containing
the author, title date and language if applicable.  While it's more work
than, say, just changing the 240 to a 730.  We decided that it the most
helpful to our patrons.

Also, with the full screen edit capability available in release 8, it is
much easier.


Amy W. Graham
Cataloging Dept.
Swarthmore College
(215)328-8484
agraham1@cc.swarthmore.edu
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From:         SEAMAN_SH@CUBLDR.COLORADO.EDU

SUBSCRIBE SCOTT SEAMAN INNOPAC@MAINE
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From:         Ann Leslie Jones <BM.AIL@RLG.BITNET>

I would like to know if anyone has successfully adapted
the INNOPAC for use by a visually impaired person.  I
would be interested in either the use of a large-type
screen or a PC that will read its own screen aloud.

This is request for a collegue of mine who does not have
access to e-mail.  Please respond directly to me and I
will summarize any responses I receive for the list.

Thank you.           Ann Jones (bm.ail@rlg.bitnet
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From:         L_BILLS@OLDCC.BRYNMAWR.EDU
Subject:      Re: Review Files

We have had jproblems with review files that involve understanding their
logic and quirks.  Once we figured out some of these we could
decide whether a list was going to work or not - but sometimes we have
just had to conclude that there is no easy way tomake the lists
we wanted.  A number of the enhancement requests I am compiling
involve suggestions for making common problems easier to solve.

I have two examples of lists that did not retrieve right just
off the top of my head.

First, LC call numbers need to be properly formatted in
the search to retrieve properly.  I think it would be good
of III could do an INN-FORMED sheet on these tricks since
call number ranges is somethign we frequently want to retrieve.

SEcond, retrieving bib records by characteristics of items can
be tricky if there is more than one item.  For instance, we wanted
all bib records which had items with any location that began
"hq".  We did a BIB list, based on ITEM

        LOC => hq and LOC < hr

And retrieve any bib with more than one item record! - the reason
was simple once we thought about it - one item fulfilled one part
of the requirement and the other fulfulled the other.

So we hav elearned to test all new searching logic based on
another record type before using it.

I would be interested in hearing about other particular quirks
and perhaps we can put together a special list of cautions
and tricks to this function.

Linda Bills
Tri-College Consortium
l_bills@oldcc.brynmawr.edu
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From:         abartlet@ALLEG.EDU

        I have a question about searching on the INNOPAC and uniform
titles.  In our database both the title(245) and uniform title(240)
fields have an INNOPAC tag of "t".  When searching by author, the
INNOPAC defaults to the uniform title field.  Unfortunately, some
uniform titles are sufficiently vague as to prevent some patrons from
identifying the book.  We are experimenting with cross references.
Are there any other useful solutions out there?

Alan Bartlett
Lawrence Lee Pelletier Library
Allegheny College
Internet address: abartlet@alleg.edu
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From:         Ray Lytle <LW05LAF@MUSIC.TCS.TULANE.EDU>
Subject:      new subscriber

I wish to subscribe.

Ray Lytle- Tulane Law Library
Bitnet:  lw05laf@tcsmusa
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From:         Ann Leslie Jones <BM.AIL@RLG.BITNET>
Subject:      visually impaired - responses

re: Adapting INNOPAC for Visually Impaired Patrons

I received two responses to my question about whether or
not anyone had sucessfully adapted the INNOPAC for use by
visually impaired patrons.  One respondant directed me to
Vicky Collins at the Library for the Blind & Physically
Handicapped (9th & Walnut Sts., Phila., PA 19014  (215) 925-
3213), who had given a presentation at a recent PALINET
meeting on the adaptors available for screen enlargement.
The other respondant told me that she uses a Macintosh to
access the INNOPAC and has set the font size to a larger size
to make the screen more readable.

I also received some input from Innovative Interfaces to the
effect that they would be very interested in working with any
site which wishes to develop this capability for its patrons.
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From:         "Sharon I. McCaslin" <mccaslins@PSCVAX.PERU.EDU>
Subject:      Dead Sea Scrolls Q

        Please do summarize "the answer" for the list.  There are a number of
us out here who would like to have our ignorance somewhat enlightened.  Thanks.


Dr. Sharon McCaslin               Phone: 402/872-2306
Associate Professor               Inet:  mccaslins@pscvax.peru.edu
Technical Services Librarian
Peru State College, Peru, NE 68421
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From:         BALLARD <BALLARD.FRANKLIN@PANTHER.ADELPHI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Review Files -Reply -Reply

   Concerning Terry Ballard's message that a HAS search will
> bring up the search
> string in any order -- I thought the HAS option was a straight
> string search,
> inclusive and not case sensitive.  Something else must be going
> on.
> Joe Wynne
> University of Virginia Law Library

   Other things are going on, but I will stand by my orginal
statement.  Just to be sure, I ran a test file of records
containg France in the sub heading.  Of the six that I called up,
3 had France as the initial subject term, and three had it in a
geographic subdivision.  Next, I ran a second file to search the
first one for Subject H(as) AFR.  I got four records - the three
that had France as the initial term and one record that had
Africa in a geographic subdivision.  Curiouser and curiouser.

|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Terry Ballard      |    ballard@panther.adelphi.edu           |
| Systems Librarian  |    or ballard@auvax1.adelphi.edu         |
| Adelphi University |    Garden City, New York, 11530          |
| 516-877-3547       |    Fax: 516-877-3592                     |
|                    |                                          |
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*   "Science is not about control.  It is about cultivating a   *
*   perpetual sense of wonder in the face of something that     *
*   forever grows one step richer and subtler than our latest   *
*   theory about it.  It is about reverance, not mastery."      *
*                                                               *
*           Richard Powers from the Gold Bug Variations         *
*                                                               *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
From: rnoia@netcom.com (Roger F. Noia)
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Subject: In library use problem
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:01:15 GMT
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Hello.

I work at a medium sized public library at the magazine (periodical) desk
and we have just purchased the innovative system.  My question is about
handling in-library use items.  Our magazine desk does not allow patrons
to check out items and we have to keep track of all items retrieved for
patrons.  Our system operator has made barcodes for each periodical
we hold and has placed them in a book.  This would all be fine and dandy
except that when a patron checks out more than one copy of an item
which is about 90% of our check out.
example: wall street journal for the last 3 months (count 90 items).
So instead of wanding in barcodes until the cows come home.. is there a
way to wand one barcode and then "multiply" by a number?
(kinda like the way cashiers do at grocery stores?)
Other than making barcodes for each title then having another one for
times 5, 10, 25, etc...

thanks...
p.s. can innovative add this in to the periodical/circulation
subsystems?

roger

rnoia@netcom.com
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From:         Glen Jula <julag%ccmail@TACOM-EMH1.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      copy-overlay string from column B to column A.... HOW TO
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While in XEDIT I have a 'string' in column 20-28 which I want to be copied to
column 8-16 (keeping the values in columns 20-28 in place.

I have tried zone, CO (copy-overlay) and a few others with no success.

Anyone have any ideas???? It would reduce on typing considerably.

                          Glen P. Jula

                    julag@tacom-emh165.army.mil
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From:         Melinda Varian <MAINT@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Using PIPES to move a RDR file to TAPE

Galen,  Pipes is very well suited to the task of moving a file from
a virtual reader to a tape, and it offers several different output
blocking methods.  If you give a more specific definition of what
you're looking for, I suspect someone would write it for you.
From: UICD@MARIST.BITNET (Dero)
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Subject: Screen capture
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:13:35 GMT
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Does anyone know of, or have, a PIPEs, or PIPEs + REXX + whatever,
screen capture prgram for VM? Basically, I'm looking for something
that will intercept the PRINT SCREEN key on various IBM consoles and
redirect the output to disk and/or a spool file (via PIPE's "PRINTMC").

I know what I'm looking for, as mentioned above, but I don't know
where to begin building it! Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

In case you haven't guessed, I believe that PIPEs would be quite
helpful. Of course, this is an intuitive 'feeling', not based on any
hard facts! 8^)

Thanks! -Dero

Chris 'Dero' DeRoberts
Marist College
Internet: UICD@VM.MARIST.EDU
Bitnet:   UICD@MARIST.BITNET
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