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From: ridder@zowie.zso.dec.com (Hans)
Subject: Re: Asim CDFS
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:28:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.171235.18589@sarah.albany.edu> tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
>In article <shane.083a@peeker.uucp>, shane@peeker.uucp (Shane R. McCarthy) writes:
>>   I just purchased the Xetec driver with two CD's last week.[...]

[About 100 lines of text included by Teddy Wang deleted]

>Shane,
>
>Does Xetec say what HD controllers they support???
>I've got an ICD unit sitting in my machine.
>
>Teddy

Geez, 100 lines of quoted text included for a two line question?  Teddy,
how about trimming down the quoted text a bit?  We don't need to read it
again.  Thanks.

>       //                                             twang@thor.albany.edu

-hans
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From: aball@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:49:27 BST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: SCSI / MFM ADAPTER.

Hi All!

     I have recently acquired a Seagate ST4097 HD (which is MFM/RLL)
as a freebie, and I am in the process of building a Spartan SCSI interface.
I know that I can put the two together if I have an adapter.  Being into
matters technical and working on a tight budget, I would rather build an
adapter than buy one.  Does anyone out there have any info on or know of
the whereabouts of a project for building such an adapter?  Failing that,
does anyone have a suitable adapter for sale at a reasonable price?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

     Artie.


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From: evermic@prism.cs.orst.edu (M.BiSON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Super Denise..
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:17:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug21.061718.6307
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept

I just got a commodore flicker card and a vga monitor, and I'm already
sick of the crummy borders around the edges.  Anyways, there are a couple
PD programs to correct this, but they require a Super Denise.  So my question
is this..  how much do they cost, and are they plug in compatible.
Also, any probs with a revesion 4.X 2000 motherboard..?  


-MIC.
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From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: New Amiga models coming up???
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:29:03 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

The rumors you hear may or may not be true....  Please hold your
breath until Sept. Where at the W.O.C.A. C= may or may not announce
some super new models we all will applaud greatly...  Of course, I
have to add the disclaimer that this is also a rumor and may be totally
false since I am a developer and cannot say more than wait and see... :)
From: joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: GVP HD for A500
Date: 13 Aug 1992 16:34:33 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Can you buy an empty GVP case for the A500? I have a SCSI drive but
need some way of hooking it up to my A500. If they do sell them,
about how much do they run? Are there cheaper cases available?



-- 
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Trilogist Extrodinaire     
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From: johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: SUMMARY:  16MHz A3000 to 25MHz  (!)  Hardware "Hack"
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:27:10 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy

In article <713678050.3386.0@unix5.andrew.cmu.edu> cd27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Dalton) writes:

[About the A3000]

>Why did C= not socket the CPU?  

Noise and reliability.

>Is the 3000 a disposable amiga like the A600?
>
>This sounds like something apple would do ("new rom?  We can get you in for a 
>motherboard swap next month ...")

This sounds like someone who believes aliens are shoving mind-control
devices up people's noses.

--John
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: MMR speed questions
From: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (LaMonte Koop)
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:53:05 -0600
Reply-To: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <al158305.713633200@academ01>, al158305@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila) writes:
>
>   Hiya pplz :)  I just installed an MMR into my A1000. I was thinking on
>leaving the original internal drive inside, but the little extension tower
>I made for the cpu socket kept failing, it seems that every time it got
>a little warm it would drop a connection or something like that, so I 
>had to leave the internal drive dangling outside :(  Maybe I'll redirect
>df0 to df1 and get myself another external drive. Will the Sybil thing work
>ok in that configuration?

I don't know about Sybil offhand, but the problems with your 'tower'
modification to the CPU socket sounds like you have a cold solder joint in
there (or if no solder was used, thermal expansion is causing a connection
to spread apart).  This can usually be remedied fairly easily.

>   Well.. Going to the question in question :)  What's the max speed cpu that
>one can install in an MMR? and WHY?  I've seen ads for the VXL device saying
>it works up to 40, and people discussing running it up to 60 Mhz (ouch), and
>the most I've heard of the MMR is 38Mhz for the cpu and 50 for the fpu,
>so how come??

The MMR is rated for up to 40 MHz operation in terms of the CPU input clock.
Overclocking of ANY device such as this, VXL or MMR, is not something I would
recommend.  You have to remember, in an accelerator such as this, you have
basically installed a seperate system on top of your existing Amiga.  This
new system communicates with the Amiga by means of the CPU socket, but when
left to its own it is a different machine.  The CPU input clock on the
accelerator is also used as the input clock to the other support devices
on the board (such as byte-select/cache inhibit control/bus interface logic,
etc..) which have input clock maximum specifications.  Thus, your CPU may be
rated to handle a higher clock rate, but the other devices on the accelerator
may not be.  

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From: jvl@redorc.chi.il.us (System Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 68010 SWITCH !!!
Date: 15 Aug 92 21:20:13 CDT
Organization: Red Oracle Bbs/Network

In article <1992Aug9.073419.27455@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>,
CSC9017984R@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (M.C. Freddy!!) writes:
>I am thinking about piggy-backing a 68010 with my 68000 and installing a
>switch to switch between >chips, so I get the best of both worlds...  
Now there is an idea! I would love to see this done in action, and plans for it
for that matter!

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From: akl@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Rob Tillotson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: CD-ROM drive system recommendations wanted
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:06:35 GMT
Organization: Who ya gonna call?  CloneBusters!

I'm looking to buy a CD-ROM drive.  My intention is mostly just to
access the various CDs of free software out there (e.g. AB20, Fish,
NetGems, etc.) but CDTV compatibility would probably be nice and audio
out would of course be quite cool.  (I have an audio CD player, but I
can't control it from my Amiga :)  My system is a garden-variety 2000
with 1MB chip/4 MB fast RAM, 40 MB HD, 2091 HD controller, 2.04 in
ROM.  (I also have a GVP RAM board and a CMI Multiport board, if that
makes a difference.)

I've caught some of the tail end of the recent discussion about
CD-ROMs here, but unfortunately I missed most of it.  (Besides, I was
flat broke and unable to afford neat toys at the time :-)  Therefore,
I am looking for any comments anyone might have on adding a CD-ROM
drive to an Amiga.  In particular:

  - any comments on the performance of the various CD filesystems out
    there.  Both the Xetec and ASIM ones seem to be quite
    feature-rich; therefore, I would like to know about their
    performance, especially on compatibility with non-Amiga-specific
    disks and CDTV titles.

  - any comments on good, reasonably inexpensive internal CD-ROM
    drives and where to buy them.  (I intend to mount this in the
    2000s 5.25" bay, and would like to use my existing SCSI controller.)
    
  - anything else you might have to add.

I seem to remember someone saying he had a FAQ file on Amiga CD-ROM.
Unfortunately I don't remember who that was.  Whoever you are, if
you're reading this, I would really appreciate being mailed a copy or
at least informed where I can pick it up.

Much thanks in advance,
--Rob
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                                        BITNET:  ROBT@PURCCVM
From: poe@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: AMIGA ROOKIE NEEDS HELP FAST!!!
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:40:57 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hello Amiga users.

I am not knowledgable in Amiga hardware, and need help finding
hardware for a friend of mine in another country. I make the purchase,
and will send it to him via traveling relatives. They leave soon,
so I am in a rush!

He wants to buy a 200+ MB SCSI HD for his A3000, and was ready to purchase
a Quantum LPS 210S from a store in the US (for $659!). I told him that they
have come out with the much improved LPS 240S, but he was told by the salesman 
that the 240 will NOT work with the A3000. Can anyone confirm or deny this? He
says that he would rather be safe with the 210 than gamble with the 240 since 
returning it will be extremely difficult. I suspect the salesman is trying to
clear out an obsolete model.

In any case, I cannot find a NEW 210S anywhere. Can anyone give me a source
for this drive, or another brand SCSI drive in the 200MB range that is known 
ot work with the A3000?

2nd thing: He wants a monitor to go with his computer, and was looking
at the Sony CPD1302 and CPD1304. Can anyone tell me the difference?
I think the 1302 has 640x480 resolution and may be interlaced, as
opposed to the 1304 with 1024x768 and NI. Will both of these monitors
work with the A3000? Any suggestions for multi-sync monitors?

Thanks very much for any information,
Phil
POE@WHARTON.UPENN.EDU
From: johnl@SDFSERV.hac.com (John Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: BTNTape driver
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:39:59 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, El Segundo, CA

In article <1992Aug12.082256.5045@ericsson.se> etxpnil@etxsj.ericsson.se (Per Nilsson) writes:
>I've connected a tape drive to my Amiga 3000, the drive is supposed
>to be a 150M drive. But when I try to write to it by using BTNTape and
>gnutar, only 60M is written before I'm asked to insert the next volume.
>Do I have to initialize the tape for 150M storage before I write to it ?
>The tapedrive used to sit in a SUN server if it's any help.
>
>Any suggestions ?

Can you give a few more details, like the drive make and model and the
tape you're using (DC600A, DC6150, etc.)?

It sounds like the tape drive is using a lower-capacity encoding standard
like QIC-120 by default and you'd like to use the higher-capacity standard
like QIC-150.  If it's similar to my A3070 SCSI tape drive, you'll need to
send a SCSI MODE_SELECT command to make the drive use the higher-capacity
standard.  It's pretty simple with BTNTape, but a tech manual for the
drive that describes the particular MODE_SELECT needed would be very
helpful.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: glewis@fws204.intel.com (Glenn M. Lewis ~)
Subject: Problems with GVP G-Force 040 on 16MHz A3000
Reply-To: glewis@pcocd2.intel.com
Organization: ICD, Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:54:55 GMT


	I now own a GVP G-Force 040 with 2Megs RAM, and placed it in my
16MHz A3000 (w/2Megs-Chip and 4Megs-Fast RAM), and got it to boot up.  I
applied the GForcePatch program which disables DMA on all DMA devices by
masking something-or-other.

	When I boot, the system comes up fine, but during use of the
computer, it will crash quite frequently.  "CED" and "mset" seem to be
able to crash it consistantly, but other programs will crash the system
too.  The GURUs vary, but some are "8000 0004", "8000 0013", etc.  The
memory locations all seem to start with 8000...., which I guess is the
super-fast RAM on the G-Force board.  I've noticed that the system is
slight more reliable if I move the "GVPCpuCtrl FASTROM" line to the
*very* end of my User-Startup, after everything else has happened, and
in this case, there is not enough of that fast RAM to move the ROM up
there, as a warning message so politely tells me.

	Does anybody have any idea why the system is so flakey?  GVP
doesn't seem to have a clue... they want to ship me a new version of
68040.library, but I already have 37.2, which I hear is the latest.

	Here is the start of my Startup-Sequence (from memory):

setpatch > nil:
version 
GVPCpuCtrl FASTROM
CPU CACHE

	I have tried all combinations of "CPU..." I can think of,
disabling everything and enabling everything, with no differences.

	Here are the versions of system chips:

RAMSEY: $D
GARY:   $0
DMAC:   OLD
BUSTER: I dunno.

	I installed the 2.04 ROMS that came with the G-Force '040 board.

	ANY HELP would be appreciated, as I now have to boot in 16MHz
'030 mode, which is frustrating when I have a 28MHz '040 under the hood.

	E-Mail replies would be great!  THANKS OODLES in advance!!!

						-- Glenn Lewis
						(co-author of Essence)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: atul@Cadence.COM (Atul Srinivasan)
Subject: How may external drives can I hook up
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:42:02 GMT

Hello,
	I have the following configuration:

Amiga 2000 w/ GVP controller
1 Internal HD
1 Internal floppy Drive
1 External Drive
AMAX Cartridge with MAc external drive.

My question is how many external HD's can I hook up ?

I believe I can have only four floppies, and 7 SCSI devices,
since the eight is taken by the controller/cpu itself (wrong ?)

So currently I have df0: and df3: as working floppies,
df1: reserved for the 5 1/4 inch bay, and df2: taken by Amax
and Mac drive.

I assume that the partitions on the internal HD do not
count as multiple devices, only the physical device matters.

So I should be able to hook up two more external drives to
my system ?

Have I missed something ? Got it wrong ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Atul

atul@cadence.COM
From: John.Petrams@f180.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Gvp hd for a500
Date: 20 Aug 92 10:22:00 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.01 Jul 13 1992

-> Can you buy an empty GVP case for the A500? I have a SCSI drive but
-> need some way of hooking it up to my A500. If they do sell them,
-> about how much do they run? Are there cheaper cases available?

why dont you try a grand slam by ivs.  it holds ram and if you dont need ram
get a trumpcard professional series.  those can be bought without drives.  gvp 
doesnt sell without a drive.  besides the grandslam trumpcard is better and
faster then a gvp anyway.  i bought one on a recommendation and what i like
best about it is if you buy ami 2000 or 3000 you can take the grandslam
trumpcard out and put it right in.  with gvp you get stuck. grandslam
trumpcard also has an extra parralel port and networking built in.

--- DB 1.37/001462
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.forsale
From: tjf@beta.lanl.gov (Tom J Farish)
Subject: need Amiga2000 Keyboard
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:28:00 GMT

Hi...my keyboard is flaky.  Where can I get a new one for a decent price?
.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: null-modem-cable : how to make ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:38:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1992Aug13.183859.4170
Reply-To: jh@cadre.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

In article 22660@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de, rensing@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Stefan Rensing) writes:
>Hi !
>
>Does anybody know how to make a correct null-modem-cable ?
>
>I tried connecting GND-GND, SHIELD-SHIELD and cross-connecting
>TXD-RXD but it doesn't work.
>
>What else do I have to connect ?

You should be able to get away with connecting pins 7 and 20 straight through
and crossing pins 2 and 3.  That's bare bones, but it should do it.  If you've
got an 8 wire cable to work with, connect 4,5,6,7,8 and 20 straight through,
and cross 2 and 3.

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From: strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: GVP Multiport Info Needed!
Date: 20 Aug 1992 12:54:19 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I hear there is a new card from GVP that has two parallel ports,
two serial ports, and optional Ethernet.  I'd like information on
price and availability of this product.  Thanks in advance!

Stratocaster

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From: johnl@SDFSERV.hac.com (John Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: How do the A2000's IBM slots work?
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:26:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: hacgate.22946
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, El Segundo, CA

In article <1992Aug17.111836.35676@uservx.plk.af.mil> galetti@uservx.plk.af.mil writes:
>Without a bridgeboard in my system, is there ANY physical connection
>whatsoever between my A2000 and the four IBM PC compatible expansion slots?
>Is there any way I can access these slots through software?
>
>Thank you in advance for any information!

Nope.  It's just a passive backplane with power.  There's no logic there
nor connection to the Amiga bus.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: caro@uni-paderborn.de (Carsten Rose)
Subject: Re: Internal serial port in A2000 rev. 4.x
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:13:14 GMT

wirth@igd.fhg.de (Hanno Wirth) writes:
: Hello out there,
: 
: last time I screwed my A2000 rev. 4.1 apart, I noticed a connector (CN 304)
: which sits right next to the external serial port. There was a posting in
: c.s.a.h not long ago which stated that this is "the internal serial port" of
: the A2000. I mailed the guy who wrote the article, but he was of no help.
: 
: My questions:	- is this port usable in terms of hardware (pins connected
: 		  to serial chip)?
: 		- if it is indeed usable, what's it's pinout?
: 		- is it supported by serial.device?
: 
All pins on the internal connector are physical the same as the external
Serial connector. The Connector isn't a second serial port !!
The pinout is the same as the standard 25 pin serial connector. 
1'st Row: Pin 1 internal is Pin 1 external,....
2'nd Row: Pin 14 (first pin on the 2'nd row) is Pin 14 external.

Ciao
	Carsten

Carsten Rose, Germany		| Life. That's what happens while
EMail : caro@uni-paderborn.de	| you're thinking about the future
From: dvsg0223@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David Salamon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: How do the A2000's IBM slots work?
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:13:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bt8t9v.Bvz
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

griffin@eecae.msu.edu (Dan Griffin) writes:

>peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
>> It's named Golden Gate (don't
>>confuse this with the commercial real bridgeboard), but sorry I forgot
>>the creator of this.

>David Salamon
>Dept. of Physics
>1110 West Green Street
>Urbana, IL 61801
>217-344-8310

>I'm just a very satisfied user!

Thanks Dan!  Better to email me at the address below.  I'm working on a
new version of my board and will post details when I am satisfied there are
no bugs.  Should be soon!

David

--------------------------------------------------------------
David Salamon                Physics Graduate Student (Slave)
d-salamon@uiuc.edu           University of Illinois
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert)
Subject: Re: null-modem-cable : how to make ?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Organization: Private Mail/Usenet node
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:31:19 +0000

In article <1992Aug13.142254.22660@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> rensing@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Stefan Rensing) writes:
> Hi !
> 
> Does anybody know how to make a correct null-modem-cable ?
> 
> I tried connecting GND-GND, SHIELD-SHIELD and cross-connecting
> TXD-RXD but it doesn't work.
> 
> What else do I have to connect ?
> 

Connect both pin 7's together
Connect pin 2 to other end pin 3
Connect pin 3 to other end pin 2
Join pins 4 & 5 together at each end
Join pins 6,8,20 together at each end


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