HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>>>/ hpcupt3:comp.sys.hp / jjw1@barney.gte.com (Jim Walker) 
>>>Soooo, is it time for me to post my "How to Win at BZONE and Impress Friends"
>>>tips?
>>>... "got bored and quit at 3161000" Walker

Yes please do! I haven't seen this in many moons. Also did you get this 
score using the original bzone or using the unlimited fire power/multiview
version?

Larry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: tt@tarzan.jyu.fi (Tapani Tarvainen)
Subject: f77: PEEPHOLE: NULL POINTER USED
Originator: tt@tarzan.jyu.fi
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:32:38 GMT


What does the following error from f77 mean:

Compiler error line 44135 of 2dBWIn.f: PEEPHOLE: NULL POINTER USED. (6762)

This in a 9000/720 running HP-UX 8.07, f77 version B2408A.08.07, 
with command line f77 -L +O1 +es -u -c 2dBWIn.f
The line it complains about is the final END of the program,
and the immediately preceding lines are simple assigment
statements ... there may of course be a bug in the code, but that
error messages isn't very helpful.
--
Tapani Tarvainen    (tarvaine@jyu.fi, tarvainen@finjyu.bitnet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: Rick_Graetz@aprdlgtr.sps.mot.com (Rick Graetz)
Subject: Re: Contemporary Cybernetics 8mm tape drive
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:34:26 GMT

In article <22469@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, dave@scg8a.hac.com (Dave) wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> We are considering purchasing a Contemporary Cybernetics Group CY-8500 
> 8mm tape drive for backing up Sybase 4.9 databases on an HP 9000 model 847
> running HP-UX 8.02.  Does anyone out there own one of these things?  I am
> curious about:
> 		1. Compatibility with HP hardware and software.
> 		2. How effective the compression is.
> Anyone have any opinions or advice?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> Dave

We purchased a pair of these drive to attach on our HP 9000 model 750
running HP-UX 8.07.  We had problems with using fbackup crashing the 750
everytime we used it.  After we threatened to send the drives back they
sent out a field engineer to our site.  The engineer was very knowledgeable
and after a couple of attempts with new roms the drives were working fine. 
We haven't had any problems with the drives since then.

Rick Graetz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: talk/talkd (actually ntalk/ntalkd)
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:10:39 GMT


I have compiled the 'ntalk' package from the InterWorks library,
and it basically doesn't work (we are running 8.07 with ANSI C
as the default).

1) it leaves behind a 'ntalkd' for each attempted talk sessions
   that is stuck in "kernel" code according to xbd. These processes
   must be killed manually.

2) it doesn't work for local connections from one HP user to another.

3) it won't accept talk requests to/from our Domain systems.

The weird thing about this is that it did work when I first installed
and tested it!

/etc/services has the following:

talk         517/udp                 # conversation
ntalk        518/udp                 # new talk, conversation

and /etc/inetd.conf has

ntalk   dgram   udp     wait    root    /usr/local/etc/ntalkd   ntalkd

Any clues?
-- 
What are the chances that any computer system will ever "work" properly?
... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
From: larryt@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Larry Thompson)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:30:57 GMT
Subject: Re: What is MONITROL?
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

/ hpcupt3:comp.sys.hp / eyring@cc.utah.edu /  8:19 am  Jul 19, 1992 /





MONITROL ?   Does it have something to do with monitors?
----------

Monitrol/UX is the name of a product that is developed by one of HP's
third party vendor (Hilco Technologies, St. Louis). Monitrol/UX is a
software platform the is used for developing shop floor applications dealing
with Computer Integrated Manufacturing. It is a very large and very expensive
and very useful product if you are doing CIM applications.

I used to be the laison between Hilco and HP in a former life.

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From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:32:50 GMT
Subject: Re: IBM Disk and HP 9000/700
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

xexeo@dxlaa.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo) writes:

>The solution was: there is no way. We even contacted HP, and they
>said they don't and will not support IBMH12 disks as boot devices.
>
>The interesting part is that, HP does not support IBM disk, Exabyte cartridges
>and probably other items I will discover soon. They really don't seem to have
>as the best costumer service in the market.

  I fail to see what HP not supporting a non-HP disk/tape as a *boot*
device has to do with the quality of our customer service.

  For a boot device it probably means "it can not work", i.e. the
required code is not present in the HP boot firmware. If so, then it is,
perceived or real, lack of functionality instead of bad customer
service (For me "customer service" normally translates to "after-sales
customer service". If to you it only/mainly means the "information
provided in the pre-sales phase", they the jury can be still out, i.e.
it depends on what you asked and which information HP gave in return.).

  If the non-HP disk/tape can/should work as a boot device, but does
not, then :

  Probably no company *supports* (as in "If you can not get it to work
then we will get it to work (at no charge)") peripherals which they do
not sell.
  That many peripherals do work, and that the system supplier will *try*
to help you (perhaps at cost) when they do not, is quite another thing
than what most people call "support".

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jms@spatial.com (Jim Sharpe)
Subject: Re: windows unexpectedly dying - why and how to fix it ?
Organization: Spatial Technology, Inc. [Boulder, Co]
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:37:51 GMT

In article <jovanov.711913814@ceg.uiuc.edu> jovanov@ceg.uiuc.edu (Dan Jovanovic) writes:
>I noticed that when an xterm sits unused for a period of time
>it somehow gets killed. I'm curious as to which feature of
>HPUX/VUE (HP9000/7xx) controls this behavior and how I may change it. 
>

If you are using the korn shell it is probably due to the value set for
the shell variable TMOUT.  Set it to 0 (infinite timeout).




-- 
Jim Sharpe / jms@spatial.com - 

Spatial Technology Inc. 2425 55th Street, Boulder CO  80301    (303)449-0649
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: wk@cup.hp.com (Wayne Krone)
Subject: Re: DAT drive on 835, help please
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:01:11 GMT
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

markd@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Damerell) writes:
: We have: a H-P 9000/835, HP-UX 8.0, a SCSI card, and no adequate backup
: device. We also have a SCSI DAT cartridge drive (H-P model C1520A) and I
: wanted to attach it to the 835. Granted that the C1520A is not on the list
: of officially-supported devices, but I dont see the point of having a SCSI
: standard if conforming devices cannot communicate.

The SCSI conformant hardware (peripheral and host) can communicate
properly.  The current s800 SCSI tape driver by design does not allow
operation of any device not officially supported.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: chris@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Christian Finger)
Subject: Re: Archive of old messages???
Reply-To: finger@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: Computer Center, University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:08:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.174115.11407@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk>, markd@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Damerell) writes:
| Please, is there an archive of (say) the last 6 months messages? I wanted to
| ask about 3rd-party disks on 835; this must be a FAQ; but the local mailserver
| does not seem to have any messages on this topic. Thank you, MArk

Get pub/news/comp.sys.hp/INDEX.1992 from our anonymous ftp server 
ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (129.13.96.2); search for the articles you need
and get them from pub/news/comp.sys.hp/1992.
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From: rodean@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bruce Rodean)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:37:46 GMT
Subject: Re: HP login very slow
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Ft. Collins, CO.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In article <1992Jul29.081204.6487@cv.ruu.nl> fred@cv.ruu.nl (Fred Appelman) writes:
>In <1992Jul28.203022.16348@ctp.com> jmay@ctp.com (Jason May) writes:
>>What else does login(1) do that could be slow?  We're running both NFS
>>and NIS.  CPU and network loads aren't high.  Once the login does complete,
>>there are never any performance problems.
>
>HP, checks quotas during login. Perhaps that is your problem.

It is probably disk quota checking.  If an NFS server is down during a
login attempt, the login (actually quota) will hang until it times out.
You can check this by running a 'ps -ef' while a login is hanging from
another session.  If you see a quota command being run for the user
trying to log in, then that confirms it.

You either need to get that NFS server back up and running or disable
disk quota checking on the local system.  As I pointed out in another
string, this can be done by either:

   chmod 444 /usr/bin/quota                 # or
   mv /usr/bin/quota /usr/bin/quota.save    # or
   rm /usr/bin/quota

depending upon how drastic a measure you want to take.

Bruce Rodean
rodean@fc.hp.com

Not an official response of Hewlett-Packard, and no warrantees of any
kind are made or implied.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: hpterm only supports eight colors?!
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:28:29 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

Good news: hpterm supports colors (with the strangest set of escape
codes this side of EBCDIC).

Bad news: you can only have eight distinct color combinations
displayed at a time?!

Is there no way around this limitation?  Is there no replacement for
hpterm -- perhaps someone's hacked xterm -- that can display more than
eight color combinations at once?  Perspiring minds want to know!
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
   "Do Rush place weird subliminal backmasked messages in their songs to
 compel unwilling geeks to commit evil .sig atrocities?"  -- Dean Engelhardt
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: Inhibiting core dumps on HP7xx
In-reply-to: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com's message of Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:24:01 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
	<1992Jul27.165150.19339@ncube.com> <Bs25o1.FE1@ef2007.efhd.ford.com>
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:22:13 GMT

Is the fact that you guys at Ford already habe HP-UX 9.0 related to
the fact that HP-ites drive Ford cars ;-) ?
--
Hardy 
-----
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e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET

Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:8717 comp.os.vms:12938 comp.periphs.printers:2261
From: bell@EKBEXT.sps.mot.com (David Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.os.vms,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: PaintJet
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:36:31 GMT
Reply-To: bell@ekbext.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola European Semiconductor Products Sector

A recently delivered HP 9000/382 came with a PaintJet printer, which has been
sited in out office area, rather than in a clean area, which is isn't praticable.
I was advised that this beast could be sited on a DEC portserver, and the
multinet package used so that anyone on a vax,hp or sun on the network would make
use of it. All was fine with text files which are sent to it, but raster images
are proving tricky. Taking the example of a graph created by BBN's RS/1, the
printer spews some nonsense, and then about half the graph, and then some more
nonsense. I tried using the PBMPLUS utlity to convert both icon and raster images
to ppm and then subsequently to pj using ppmtopj, but this fails miserably as
well.  All this suggests to me a problem with my switch selection ...


Dip Switches:	1 1 1 1 1 1 1
		    X
		X X   X X X X
		0 0 0 0 0 0 0  

     		E P X P P B B
		N C O A A A A
		G 8 N R R U U
		    X I I D D
                    O T T 
                    F Y Y
                    F

Where X is the location of the switch.

The Port is ..

Character Size:	8
Flow Control:	XON
Parity:		NONE
INPUT SPEED:	9600
OUTPUT SPEED:	9600

I have been told that the port has DTR hard-wired, so I have tried the DIP switch
at XON-XOFF & DTR. No luck for either.

Has anyone performed a similar task ?

Email will be summarised.

Dave 
-- 

Disclaimer: "Probably"

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: scot@creek.eel.ufl.edu (Scott Miller)
Subject: Attach LZRJet to Cluster Client 
Organization: UF EE Department
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 14:57:06 GMT


I am having problems attaching a laserjet3 to one of our
cluster clients. The clients is a HP900/400 running HPUX 8.0 and
the laserjet is attached to the serial port.

The device file is
crw-rw-rw-   1 lp       lp         1 0x090004 Jul 20 10:05 lp332


lpadmin -plp332 -v/dev/lp332 -mlaserjet -acreek
lpadmin -dlp332
enable
accept
lpsched

When I try to print a file I get


printer lp332 disabled since Jul21
  disabled by scheduler:can't write to /dev/null

Any ideas?

Regards,
Scott

PS This worked before I set up the cluster.
From: paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: trouble with HP-UX software support : solution idea
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:48:18 GMT
Organization: 3D/EYE, Inc.  Ithaca, NY

In article <22508@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> mobej@thaad-1g%hac2arpa.hac.com (M. Obejas) writes:
>
>Idea #1: 
>support.mayfield.hp.com has an ftp directory available to us paying customers.
>We log in and answer the password and whatever other id info is necessary. 
>There is a directory called /pub/patches; I can do a binary get of any patch
>named as PHxx_nnnn.

Mayfield does indeed give you access to patches via FTP!  If you log into the
support system and the main menu does not have an entry for "Get Patch
Information,"  call HP support and 'tell' them about this.  You are somehow
accessing an old version of the support program!  This happened to me a few
months ago, and after some prodding, the owners of mayfield updated my account
to use the new system.

BUT...  The list of available patches on mayfield is puny and generally out of
date.  90% of the patches mentioned in this newgroup are not available on
mayfield!  Rationale for this is usually given in terms of "we're protecting
the user from over-patching" or some such, which is IMHO a noble goal, but I
think that hp support is going about it all wrong.  There's no way that they
can anticipate what patches are important to what customers, and by limiting
availability of patches on mayfield, they are bound to leave somebody out in
the cold.

My suggestion would be (and has been) as follows:  HP SE's have access to a
_large_ collection of patches and tools on hpfcse.fc.hp.com.  Suppose they
mirror this collection onto mayfield?  Add an area on mayfield called
"UNSUPPORTED" or some such and include as many warnings and caveats as you
like in that area.  The less experienced user can still access the 'approved'
patches in the normal area, but those of us who have more specialized needs
(and no SupportLine contract!) are also served -- albeit at our own risk.
Just a thought....
--



-- 
Paul B. Booth  (paul@eye.com)
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From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:58:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: hpterm considered stupid
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> As if that weren't enough: since my original article I've found out
> that only eight of the twelve function keys generate distinct escape
> sequences -- F9-F12 repeat F1-F4 -- and the arrow keys can't generate
> escape sequences at all!

I will agree that HP terminals are a bit weird.

However, arrow keys on hpterm will transmit escape sequences if the
transmit functions strap is set.

	To set the strap,   use the sequence ESC&s1A
	To clear the strap, use the sequence ESC&s0A

			-- Chan Benson
			HP Fort Collins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: tt@tarzan.jyu.fi (Tapani Tarvainen)
Subject: xauth
Originator: tt@tarzan.jyu.fi
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:21:13 GMT


How can one start X11 on a workstation (9k[347]00, 8.0[07]) console
using mit-magic-cookie authorization (without using VUE or xdm)?
If it's in TFM, please tell me in which one, or which keyword
to use with lrom ... I can't find anything but vague hints.
--
Tapani Tarvainen    (tarvaine@jyu.fi, tarvainen@finjyu.bitnet)
From: kinsell@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dave Kinsell)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:40:33 GMT
Subject: Re: moving tar file on DAT (4mm) tape between HP and SGI???
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, fish@daacdev1.stx.com writes:

> hi, i'm trying to write a tar archive to a 4mm DAT tape on
> an HP 720 (hpux 8.05) and then read it on an SGI 440s (irix
> 4.0.1) and it sez: checksum error, giving up...
> 
> i just used plain old tar cvf to create it on the HP and then
> checked it with tar tvf and all was fine then came over to 
> the SGI and it won't read it (even dd won't read anything off
> of it)  - any ideas?

I'll bet you're not using an HP dat drive.  Tar tvf sends out a
write 0 filemarks command, conventionally used by drivers to flush
buffers.  Some drives write 0 filemarks, then write an EOD mark.
This clobbers all your data.  Try skipping the tvf pass, or write
protect the cartridge first.

Dave Kinsell
From: good@gdwest.gd.com (David L. Good)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HELP: Problems integrating HP700-Cluster in SUN-Environment
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:04:51 GMT
Organization: General Dynamics Corp.

In article <1992Jul21.162656.159@mr.med.ge.com> eric@csi6.med.ge.com writes:
>In article <BroG0z.A05@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> mohr@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Bernd Mohr) writes:
>>hallo,
>>we received a HP9000s700 cluster running HP-UX 8.07. The rest of
>>our computers are mainly Sun Sparcs. We have some trouble integrating
>>the HP cluster in our Sun environment:
>>
>>2) we want the same mail box in our whole environment, so we mounted
>>   the mail spool directory from our Sun server. Problem: you cannot
>>   use "mail" or "mailx" to read your mail on the HP clients
>>   (message: mail: can not lock on /usr/mail/<user> after ten tries) 
>>   The same command on the HP Server works perfectly.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Bernd Mohr
>
>We ran into this devilish little problem recently. It appears
>to be an NFS file locking problem (bug? who said bug?!?!).
>It's been reported to HP, and was being investigated. I'm no
>longer involved with this particular problem, so I don't have
>reference numbers handy, I'm afraid.
>
>Anyway, report it to your HP service people, and if they drag their feet,
>insist that they check it out with the US Response Center.
>
>For grins, try elm. It sometimes works when the others won't.
>
>Eric Bushnell
>eric@csi6.med.ge.com
>
>--- Not speakin' fer nobody. ---

We also tried to set up a central mail server for our HPs and Suns.  We had
some problems (the details of which I don't recall), and came to the 
conclusion that the Suns and HPs expect different ownerships and permissions
on mail files, and that that was causing the difficulty.  We have since
set up two mail servers, one Sun and one HP.  Is this evaluation correct,
or is the problem just the aforementioned NFS bug? Has anyone managed to get
a Sun to work as a mail server for HPs or vice versa?

-- 
David Good                                               good@gdwest.gd.com

                 This space intentionally left blank.
From: nickw@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nick Watkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: 9.0 is coming, are you ready?
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:57:40 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex

From article <TT.92Jul24145516@tarzan.jyu.fi>, by tt@tarzan.jyu.fi (Tapani Tarvainen):
> In article <jwright.711960341@cfht.hawaii.edu> jwright@cfht.hawaii.edu (Jim Wright) writes:
> 
> 
> * 68020-based s300-machines
Presumably this includes bobcats (320).
Will 9.0 actually run on these at all, or just run so slowly as to be
ineffective.

> * diskless with s800
?
We have diskless 300s off an 835. is this supported ?

> * graphics on s800
We have an 835 with A1020A graphics box, also to be unsuppoted. All kit
3 years old. 3 < 5 in my view, do HP disagree ?

Nick
-- 
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JANET: nickw@uk.ac.sussex.syma        BITNET: nickw%syma.sussex.ac.uk@uk.ac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rmc@sni.ca (Russell Crook)
Subject: Writing a non-disc SCSI device driver for HP 700 (Snake)
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:13:40 GMT

Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada

Can anyone out there point to to information that would allow me
to write a non-disc SCSI driver (printers, scanners in particular)
for HP-UX on a Snake?  I have checked all the documentation we have
for our 710 and can't find anything other than dire warnings against
using unsupported equipment.

Is there a Device Driver manual somewhere that I have missed?

Thanks...

Russell Crook, Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Sietec Open Systems Division
2235 Sheppard Ave. E., Willowdale, Ontario Canada M2J 5B5   +1 416 496 8510
Email: rmc@sni.ca, uunet!snitor!rmc NERV: rmc.tor Fax: +1 416 496 8524
"To know everything would be impractical.  The access time would be enormous."
-- 
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2235 Sheppard Ave. E., Willowdale, Ontario Canada M2J 5B5   +1 416 496 8510
Email: rmc@sni.ca, uunet!snitor!rmc NERV: rmc.tor Fax: +1 416 496 8524
"To know everything would be impractical.  The access time would be enormous."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jms@spatial.com (Jim Sharpe)
Subject: Windows dying mysteriously?
Originator: jms@flash
Organization: Spatial Technology, Inc. [Boulder, Co]
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:24:03 GMT


	Has anyone else out there had a problem with hpterms mysteriously
disappearing?  I'm currently running Vue with HPUX 8.07 on a 730 and 
using the korn shell.  The symptom is somewhat similar to having the
TMOUT variable set to some finite time, but no warning is issued and
sometimes it even happens to the window I'm currently typing in!  It
doesn't seem to happen very often, perhaps once every few days, but it
is darned annoying when it does.

	It also does not appear to be local to my machine/environment, since I 
have seen that same behavior on a 710 running 8.07 and a beta version
of the next release of Vue at Hp in Ft. Collins, CO.

-- 
Jim Sharpe / jms@spatial.com - 

Spatial Technology Inc. 2425 55th Street, Boulder CO  80301    (303)449-0649