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From: jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young)
Subject: Re: Atari Canada (ready for business!)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 14:07:47 GMT

This is news from Atari person Bob Brodie about Atari Canada!..


Conf : Atari Explorer Online
Msg# : 18948  Lines: 14  Read: 2
To   : David Pischke
From : Duke Kish at The Songwriter's Den (Node #610)
Subj : Re: <18632> ATARI CANADA UPDATE

In reply to:

 > It looks like Atari Canada will be staying open after all.  Calls from
 > dealers to Atari Canada after the long weekend confirmed that Atari
 > Canada will be staying open; only the Service Centre will be closed.
 > (Service will be handled by GE Service Centre.)
 >

Now David, are you sure that's correct?  You certainly must know that the
rumor mongers disagree with you.  I wouldn't be the one to dispell their
rumors and ruin the intense glee they've exhibited with that particular
rumor.  David, David, David...get ready...they're not going to believe
you.  hehe
Duke.
(By the way, thanks for the info.).


Msg# : 18891  Lines: 9  Read: 2
To   : Bob Brodie
From : David Pischke at LEFTOVER HIPPIES 523 1:250:744 (Node #523)
Subj : Re: <18530> ATARI CANADA 

BB> Atari Canada is being converted into a sales office. I'd love to
BB> have Geoff Earle here, but he's staying up in Canada.  The rumors
BB> of the Canadian office being closed are flat out FALSE.

I feel so stupid now.  I just re-posted a bunch of posts from another
users who has connections in Atari Canada and was positive that Atari
Canada would be closed.


Conf : Atari Explorer Online
Msg# : 19004  Lines: Extended  Read: 1
To   : David Pischke
From : Bob Brodie, Atari Sunnyvale
Subj : Re: <18891> ATARI CANADA NEWS



 In message 706/2/18891, David Pischke writes:

 > I feel so stupid now.  I just re-posted a bunch of posts from another
 > users who has connections in Atari Canada and was positive that Atari
 > Canada would be closed.

Don't feel so bad. Look at what ST Report did: they published the rumors
off of the TAF BBS saying that the place would be closed by Aug 5th, AND
an apology from Ron Luks of CompuServe saying that Atari Canada was NOT
closed.

Apparently this contradiction didn't require clarification in the eyes of
the publisher of ST Report. And *you* feel stupid? His issue came out
AFTER August 5th, he could have easily verified Atari Canada was in
business by either calling them or faxing them. Instead all he did is
spread contradictory rumors.
 
Typical.
 
regards,
 
Bob Brodie
Atari Corp.



Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Subject: Re: Atari Scandinavia Going Bankrupt?
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:33:26 GMT

In article <etxansk.713717742@garbod20>, etxansk@garbo.ericsson.se writes:
> I read in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy that Atari Scandinavia is
>supposed to have gone out of business. 
>
> Is there anybody on the net who can confirm this?
>
> If it's true, it's the second time they go bust, first time
>was back in '85 or so (before the Tramiel takeover).
>
> Anders Skelander, Sweden
> 

From memory STR832 there are 2 Atari nodes that have closed there doors,
Scandinavia was one, so get a copy of STR832..

Also OZZ and Canada...??

The way its going the Falcon will never come out, go read Forbes
magazine 3rg August...

Roger..........           sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: wrighttj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Auntie Tim)
Subject: Re: SuperBoot & FontGDOS
Organization: Aston University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:18:38 GMT

cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI) writes:
: In article <1992Aug16.173242.28884@u.washington.edu> dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward) writes:
: >Does anyone know where I can FTP the latest version of SuperBoot?  I think
: >7.2 is it...  It doesn't seem to be on atari.archive.umich.edu...
: >
: I use 7.4... if it's not up there... I'll see about putting it there!
: 
: jc

Yup, I think 7.4 is the most recent version, but the newest version on a.a.u.e
is 7.2 (in the utilities directory, called (I think) supbt7_2.lzh or something)
whilst 7.4 was on the coverdisk of a recent ST Format. I'm not sure what the
differences are though...

-- 
Tim Wright.
wrighttj@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 16:48:02 EST
From: Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Internet in Detroit

If this person has a way of getting an account with a Michigan mainframe,
he might try checking into the MERIT/MichNET thing.  There might be a local
node in his area.  I used to use this to call Compuserve and GEnie when
I had accounts with them.  The connection was limited to ASCII, so I couldn't
download/upload files, but since there was a MERIT node in Houghton, and
no GEnie or CIS node, I called these services through MERIT.  CIS was free,
GEnie was something like a couple cents per call charged through MERIT.

Jeff McWilliams
From: strgh@warwick.ac.uk (J E H Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Help: microemacs problems (I think)
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:25:36 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

My ST has just been upgraded to 4Mb and TOS1.4, and I'm having problems
with micro-emacs (both versions 3.9e and 3.10).  On starting u-emacs,
or after reading/writing files (^x^w etc.), the screen fills with zeroes
(at approximately keyboard-repeat rate) until I hit a key or mouse button.
I can then delete the zeroes & edit as normal.
Problems remain with filenames even after quitting u-emacs, e.g. the
command line on any .TTP application also fills with zeroes until I
hit a key or button.  They're OK if I haven't previously run u-emacs.

As far as I can tell, only u-emacs is so afflicted.  Every combination of
bug fixes (POOLFIX[34], Atari Rainbow TOS patches) and my preferred Auto
programs & desk accessories (including none) has no apparent effect.

Can anyone out there suggest a diagnosis or cure?  U-emacs was fine with
my old TOS1.0, and I'd like to continue using it.  Please e-mail me;
I'll summarise.

                -- Ewart Shaw

P.S.  Please also e-mail me if you want to add to my list of `recommended
configurations for start-up' - what desk accessories and Auto programs
do you use?  I'll be summarising responses in a week or so.  Many thanks.
-- 
J.E.H.Shaw,  Department of Statistics,  |  JANET:  strgh@uk.ac.warwick.cu
             University of Warwick,     |  BITNET: strgh%uk.ac.warwick.cu@UKACRL
             Coventry  CV4 7AL,  U.K.   |  PHONE:  +44 203 523069
yacc - the piece of code that understandeth all parsing
From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: GNU and UW
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:32:33 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton


    I have a question regarding UW (Unix Windows).  When I compiled the server
sources on our unix box at school, it compiled fine.  But when I try to
compile it on another unix box, it mentions a number of files that are
not on this unix box (.h files).

    What I want to know is if I can compile it on another system, and
use the executable on this unix box?  I could either have a friend
compile it for me on the school's unix box, or if I ever get GCC set up
(under TC Shell/MiNT), maybe I could compile it there.

    The main question is if I *can* cross-compile it on either my Atari
or on the other unix box, what flags/settings/variables would I need to
set up in the makefile?  The destination box is a 68020-based system.
Also, what would be the setup to make it work on a 386/486 system running
System V?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks...

					Robert Anisko
					anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com
 
from my s
From: timg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tim Gallivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: New goodies for Ghostscript users.
Keywords: postscript, ghostscript
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:19:45 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Center for Relativity

Some new Ghostscript stuff is available for anonymous ftp
from lifshitz.ph.utexas.edu in pub/ghostscript.

gemgs10.zoo:	A GEM shell for Ghostscript. The only real
		advantage this offers over the command line is
		the ability to pick selected pages from large
		documents for GS to render. Unfortunately, this
		feature is slow. It is fun to play with though.

gs241r1.zoo:	gs 2.41 Atari revision 1.
		This differs from revision 0 in only 2 respects:

		1) The screen driver supports windows, for use
		   with gemGS, or from the command line.

		2) The executable includes an NEC P6 360dpi driver,
		   which several people have expressed a desire
		   to have.

gs241dif.zoo:	Diffs for changes to the ORIGINAL 2.41 source.

It just remembered that I haven't tested gemGS or the window driver
on color screens--oops. I think they will work, but I am sure
people will let me know if they don't.

Does anyone know if things are getting moved out of the new directory at
atari.archive yet. If so, I will upload all this stuff to atari.archive.

-Tim Gallivan
timg@landau.ph.utexas.edu
From: agostino@cs.concordia.ca (Agostino Deligia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: What's the best vi editor for the ST?
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:12:04 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

In article <1992Aug10.124433.21419@its.bt.co.uk> jvt@its.bt.co.uk
(John Trickey) writes:
~ In article <9681@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
~ >I call this a feature.  When a shell escape crashes you machine, you will
~ >too. 
~ >(provided you use a recoverable ramdisk - harddisk /tmp is too slow).
~ 
~ Yes, but I'm a coward at heart. I always save before shelling out.

Why *does* elvis crash after a shell escape?  I found the problem usually
happens when I'm editing two or more files, do a :next and then a :!<something>
and <<<blamo!>>... I wish this would be fixed in the newer version...

~ John Trickey <jvt@its.bt.co.uk>
~        Voice: +44 21 524 8200     Fax: +44 21 553 6120
~ (Home) <john@its.bt.co.uk> || <john@g4rev.ampr.org> || G4REV @ GB7FLG
~        +44 21 308 8892


-- 
Agostino Deligia
agostino@cs.concordia.ca
It was the best of .sigs, it was the worst of .sigs...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: didrich@cs.tu-berlin.de (Klaus Didrich)
Subject: Re: Bug in NVDI ??(was: Re: Bug in TOSWIN?)
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:17:13 GMT

erlingh@idt.unit.no (Erling Henanger) writes:
 > In article <H.adLXo1afCzs@marsu.tynet.sub.org> wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org writes:
 > >In <1992Aug12.093923.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, Eric Smith writes:
 > >> In article <H.&PuIzwvJfmU@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes:
 > >> > I tried all combinations and without other stuff in the auto folder etc.
 > >> > Without success. Then I tried a minimal MiNT configuration on my old ST:
 > >> > TOSWIN had no problems!!
 > >> > So this is definetly a TT-only bug (or feature :-), and other German TT users
 > >> > reported the same behaviour.
 > >> 
 > >> In fact, I'm using NVDI 2.03 on my (North American) TT with TOSWIN, and
 > >> haven't had any problems. 
 > >> I've also tried a variety of different GDOS's with TOSWIN, and they've all
 > >> worked fine.
 > >> Perhaps there is a bug in the German version of NVDI? (The one I have is all
 > >> in English.)
 > >
 > >Very strange! I cannot see any logical reason why different language versions
 > >could be responsible for this bug. I am going to ask the guys from BELA at
 > >Atari fair next week about it. 
 > >
 > >Still wondering,
 > >Markus.
 > >
 > >-- 
 > >/dev            Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart
 > >/usr/spool/mail wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org / @rus.uni-stuttgart.de
 > >/etc/motd       Cut your .sig!
 > 
 > Well, I tested this on my TT, and the bug showed up.
 > BUT in st-high-res it didn't show up, so probably it'll work
 > in TT high as well. Unfortunately I don't have a high-res monitor.
 > My guess is that Eric is using a TTM194 and thus haven't discovered
 > the bug (yet)...
 > 
 > Erling
 > 
 > 
 I tried out different fonts and different fontsizes. The problem is worse
 with small fonts and occurs less often with bigger fonts. Using a 26pt-font
 it didn't show up at all.

 BTW, I'd like to have saved not only rows and colums but also the scrollback
 amount in toswin.cnf.
-- 
..........................................................................
Klaus Didrich                              didrich@cs.tu-berlin.de
From: paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Paul Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: RAM expansion on the Falcon
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:46:25 GMT
Reply-To: paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona

In article 18602@aber.ac.uk, hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:
> Mike mentioned that the German TT-RAM card goes upto 32MB, as of 2 months ago
> (about that) a new board is out which now goes up to 64MB.
> 
> Herb
> -- 
> /******************************************************************************
> Herbert Sauro                                   e-mail: hrs@aber.ac.uk
> Biological Sciences                              phone: +44 970 622353
> Univesity College of Wales                                                    

But has anybody actually seen this board?  If so, I'd like to know where and for how much.  And does it work with all TT's?  Somebody said that the 32MB board has problems with older TT's, of which I believe mine is one.

-Paul Harris
paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
From: paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Article on FALCON in German mag c't
Keywords: falcon, review, c't
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:44:08 GMT
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland

In article <H.rYMcKrPZhMM@wpcst1.phys-chemie.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de> kruel@wpcst1.phys-chemie.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de (Thomas-Martin Kruel) writes:
>I wonder that this has not been posted yet:
>
>   The German computer magazine "c't" (one of the leading ones) has an 
>article in its September issue on the Falcon030, which will be presented 
>definitely on the Atari fair, Aug. 21-23, 1992 in Duesseldorf/Germany.
>
>

[Stuff deleted]

>   true color mode:
>   - 320 x 200, 32768 colors
>   - 320 x 480, 32768 colors

[Rest of article deleted]

Didn't Sam say 65536 colors at the GEnie conference? Anybody know for
sure how these color-things are?
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Rasmus Paetau (paetau@mits.mdata.fi) | Waiting for the Atari Falcon |
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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Falcon question:  is 640x480x8 mode memory-mapped?
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:37:16 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

VGA is known to be as slow as a dog for certain applications - because 
the memory for the graphics resides on the VGA board, and accessed through
a slow architecture, the details of which I am not familiar with.

BUT, will the 640x480x8 mode (256 colour) of the Falcon suffer from this
(I doubt it), or is it memory mapped and consistent with the other graphics
modes, ie. interleaved bitplanes.

I am particularly interested in this, since if it is similar to the normal
ST and TT modes, all my local software can trivially port to it, and I
will not miss the TT-low and TT-medium modes I see on friends' TTs (since
they are both subsets:  320x480x8 and 640x480x4).

Anyone know yet?  And can you say?  (Just something like "memory-mapped,
8 interleaved bitplanes, just like TT-Low, but with more horiz. rez" will do)

--
Warwick
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From: joeadato@tcpbbs.pcn.org (Joseph Adato)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon article in Atari Advantage
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 01:29:55 EDT
Organization: TCP BBS, Cleveland, Ohio

glens@natinst.com (Glen Sescila) writes:

> 	After reading the article myself I have but 2 things to say:
> 
> 	1. When can I get one of these puppies here in the U.S.?
> 
> 	2. When can I get the developer documentation for the Falcon?
> 	   (I am a Tier 2 developer)
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Now You're Playing With Power Without The Price!"  Glen Sescila   |||
>                                                                   / | \
> My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer and probably are
> exact opposites.	InterNet: glens@natinst.com	GEnie: G.SESCILA
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Obviously you'll have to contact Atari Corporations in Sunnyvale CA.
Falcons will be (as were the Mega STE and TT) available to developers
before, as I'm sure you know, they will be available to the gerneral
public.

Although he won't tell me, I know a developer in the Ohio area who I
believe is most likely going to have one of the first Falcons in the
Ohio area.
From: kevinb@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Kevin Busby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Jeff Minter's TRIP-A-TRON
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:11:28 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex

From article <1992Aug10.140007.23985@aston.ac.uk>, by wrighttj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Auntie Tim):
> Sorry to disappoint you, but Trip-a-Tron is not PD or shareware, but
> commercial software which sell for around 25 UK pounds. There is an
> earlier version called 'Colourspace' which ought to give you some
> kind of idea, which is on atari.archive somewhere- probably the
> graphics demo. Trip-a-tron is far more complex though, containing (I
> believe) its own programming language amongst other things. If
> you're interseted, Llamasoft's address should be with the C'space
> demo.

It was rumoured a few months back that Trip-a-Tron *might* be released as
shareware at some point; but maybe this was just a rumour after all.

I have a (legitimate) copy of Trip-a-Tron and must confess to being somewhat
stumped by it, largely due to the interface, which I find needlessly obtuse
and twee in its presentation (unhelpful sheep icons, the same functions
deliberately called by different names in different screens, and so
on).

The annoying thing is that I'm sure that underneath all this games-style
presentation is a very powerful program. If any other users have thoughts on
the program (ease of use, end results etc.) and feel like mailing me about
them I'll summarise the overall opinions in this newsgroup.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: heidelj@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff)
Subject: Re: Atari
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:43:01 GMT

> Sure it does.  Remember that the Falcon is trying to hit an under $1000
> price point.  Motorola 68040s are _well_ over $200 in quantity, whereas
> 68030s are below $100 (from what I've seen).  So if Atari wants to make
> a higher-end version of the Falcon based on a 68040, they can sell it
> for over $1000.  But, they're trying to sell to a home audience, rather
> than the pricey NeXT audience (ever try to buy a NeXT machine for under
> $1000?).  I'm certain not every Mac buyer is buying a Quadra right now
> due to the high cost of those 68040-based machines.
> 
> --
> Paul Dorweiler
> Hewlett-Packard Company
> Fort Collins, CO
> email: pjd@hpespjd.fc.hp.com
> AT&T: (303) 229-6030

But that is another good point to bring up.  Why does Atari always seem to  
try and produce things so that they are cheaply priced?  I think that  
people are turned off by lowly priced computers, especially from Atari  
anyway.  I don't think the Power Without The Price motto can survive much  
longer.

Jason Heideloff
heidelj@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: miskinis@aidev.enet.dec.com (John Miskinis)
Subject: Re: My MIDI ports dont work anymore :(
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 14 AUG 92 23:09:55    


In article <Bsz7Do.MJw@world.std.com>, azog@world.std.com (Azog Thoth) writes...
>In article <BsxD91.F6G@world.std.com>, I write:
>if I damaged the keyboard. Since I dont have any other MIDI gear to

Hi,

	I assume you tried a different cable?  (I'm not trying to be "smart")

	I'm not familiar with the "MIDI checker program", sounds useful.
	Does it just require a cable looped from the ST's OUT->IN?  Actually
	if the out was broken, a perfectly good in could be suspected of
	a problem...

	When your MIDI device stopped working, was it while attaching
	or detaching a cable with the power on?  A friend of mine
	blew the optoisolator in his MIDI bass that way...

Hope it's a cheap fix whatever it is,

_John_

Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:12293 comp.sys.atari.st.tech:4409
From: dunham@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: To Paul Ortega
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:33:24 GMT
Reply-To: dunham_jerry@tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: austin
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX
Originator: dunham@serpens

Paul,

Please respond.  I need to contact you and have lost your e-mail address.

-- 
Jerry Dunham                                        dunham_jerry@tandem.com
Tandem Computers, Inc.                                dunham@mpd.tandem.com
Austin, TX                                                    (512)244-8598
                 This opinion intentionally left blank.
From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: gater 'r us
Subject: Re: Software written to your specs
	<H.8zrhn73hGgw@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca> <5332764@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
	<H.tTX&ZzYtjW_@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca>
	<H.NEFVZcS1UN2@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
	<H.iQEOzb_YkvU@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
	<H.7WYmcAzhtQ6@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca>
Reply-To: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:29:24 EST

In <H.7WYmcAzhtQ6@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca>, John Henders writes:
>In <H.iQEOzb_YkvU@harvee.billerica.ma.us>, Eric S Johansson writes:
>>In <H.NEFVZcS1UN2@harvee.billerica.ma.us>, Eric S Johansson writes:
>>>and now on to the hermes questions:
>>
>>and I just remembered one more question.  Why is the date/time about
>>2 hrs west of england?  I set it to EST in config.sys.
>>
>	Check appropriate RFC's and follow news.admin. Letters for timezones
>are going away. An offset from GMT is best. -0200 in your case, if you 
>are 2 hours past GMT.
>	
my config.sys file has the following line:
0111 "EST" # TZ

If I understand you correctly, for eastern US (billerica.ma.us to be specific)
I should set the TZ line to my offset from UT or:
0111 "-0500" # TZ

correct?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: heidelj@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff)
Subject: Forbes Article
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:25:15 GMT

Can anyone summarize what the Forbes article said?  This is the first I  
have heard of "The Forbes Article"....

Thanks,
Jason Heideloff
heidelj@alleg.edu