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From: cleslie@ho05.eng.ua.edu (Charles J. Leslie)
Subject: Too many Desktops
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 08:06:21 GMT


   Hello everybody,  since my installment of OS/2 2.0 (June 92)
I've been very satisfied with the preformance and versatility of 
my system, but after experimenting with the USER  and SYSTEM
.ini files (os2.ini / os2sys.ini)  I came across a slight problem.
It seems that I have three desktops (OS!2 2.0 DESKTOP, i.m using 
this one, OS!2 21.0 DESKTOP , AND OS!2 22.0 DESKTOP).  I don't
know how to get rid of the other two desktops.  In my current os2.ini,
I have all three desktop mention above but when I converted the .ini
file to an ASCII format, there's only one.  

How can I get rid of the other two Desktops?

Thanks for the help :-) 


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From: Bertram.Moshier@f115.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Bertram Moshier)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Partitioning Help
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:24:17 -0600

-> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
-> Reply-To: jwh@citi.umich.edu
->
-> I'm going to be getting a new machine with one large hard
-> drive on it (400 meg).  Can someone suggest optimal
-> partioning strategies that I might use?  I'm not interested
-> in booting DOS so I don't need any FAT partitions.  I
-> would like to be able to run either the standard OS/2 or
-> any beta version that comes along, but I don't want to have
-> enormous chunks of disk space lying idle.  I'm thinking about
-> having one partition for standards OS/2, one for a beta
-> version and one for my user data.  If I go with this approach,
-> how big should I make each system partition.  Should the OS/2
-> partitions be FAT or HPFS?  Should each system partition
-> contain it's own SWAPPER.DAT file or can the two systems
-> share a common SWAPPER file located in the user partition.
-> Any thoughts, comments, suggestions or experiences would
-> be welcome.
->
->
->
-> James W. Howe                  internet: jwh@citi.umich.edu
-> University of Michigan             uucp: uunet!mailrus!citi.umich.edu
-> Ann Arbor, MI   48103-4943
->
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James:

I just repartitioned my 305MB HD.  It is in the form of:

  0 -  39MB - OS/2 GA (Currently Generally Available level)
 40 -  79MB - OS/2 GA with service applied (if available)
 80 - 119MB - Beta level of OS/2 (in this case 2.1 soon)
120 - 305MB - Data

When 2.1 becomes generally available, I'll install it in the 0 - 39MB
partition.  When service for 2.1 comes out, I'll put it in the 40 - 79MB
partition.  When the next beta after 2.1 comes out, I'll put it in the
80 to 119MB partition.

All partitions are HPFS.

Bert Moshier


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: Colorado's OS/2 solution for Jumbo is here!
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 22:08:55 GMT

In article <sheldon.725856657@pv141b.vincent.iastate.edu> sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes:
>
> From various comments I've seen in the comp.unix groups, Sytos+ has never
>been regarding as a very good package.  I've personally never seen it, but
>I've never heard anything good about it either.
>
> Personally I'd like something like Tar.  Perhaps maybe BRU which ships with
>Amiga's, and sells for Unix.
>
> One should think porting something like Tar would not be that terribly
>difficult.
>-- 

Actually, there is a tar port on hobbes -- look for the file gtak201b.zip
[I don't recall which directory]. It is HPFS and EA aware.

And I can't get it to work [yet]. If after I try a few more things, it still
isn't working, I may post a plea for help.

If you lack access to hobbes, I might be able to e-mail you a uuencoded
zip file. Let me know if you need it, but my net access is kind of slow.


orville

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From: brianw@macbeth.umd.edu (Brian Wiersema)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Trident drivers DO work with ATI!!!!!!!!! I have drivers!!!!!
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:31:31 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <Dec.28.00.19.29.1992.1164@remus.rutgers.edu> glenw@remus.rutgers.edu (Glenn T. Wasserman) writes:
>
>The trident 32-bit drivers DO work ATI!!! You just need to make sure
>that you generate a new, proper SVGADATA.PMI file. But it has seamless
>windows and everything (notebooks look alright, haven't tried
>printscreen yet).
>
>Anyone with ATI boards, this is EXACTLY what we have been waiting for!
>

What kind of ATI board do you have?  Also, I would be interested in 
knowing what steps you followed to change resolutions (e.g. did you
manually edit your config.sys, use dspinstl, or what, etc.).  An ATI
Graphics Ultra owner thanks you in advance.
From: heiser@acs.bu.edu (Bill Heiser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: FAXes with OS/2
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:41:18 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: heiser@acs.bu.edu

Hi,

Is there a program for OS/2 2.0 to send and receive FAXes, one
that hopefully will work with the Hayes Optima 144+FAX144?

Thanks,
Bill


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: keiths@cae.wisc.edu (Keith Scidmore)
Subject: Re: leave OS/2 running - the monitor too?
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Date: 27 Dec 92 20:47:04 CST

In article <8216@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>>making smogulous smog you can't see, and if you're not making smogulous
>>smog then you're flooding people from their homelands and poisoning the
>>waterways.
 
>In article <Bzpsq1.A80@world.std.com> bsn@world.std.com (Brent S Noorda) writesin reply:
>Standard enviro-weenie scare tactics.
>The simple fact is that the computer running all night uses less electricity
>than many other things that we take for granted as running all night...like
>refrigerators, air conditioners,...

My God man! You are actually advocating the needless death of billions
of harmless little electrons.  With your kind of thinking we will
certainly be completely out of electrons within a few decades.  What
would we do then?  Have you considered how those electrons feel about
this barbaric treatment?  Such thoughtless waste; and the complete 
extinction of one species of sub-atomic particles.

BTW I've been having trouble with the screen saver "Yawza" popping up at
inappropriate times and hanging my system.  I've found that "Shutdown
Plus" won't work with Yawza running.  Am I alone in this?  I also find
that Shutdown Plus is so slow that it is too much of a bother.  Perhaps
there is a third factor invloved that is causing both these programs
to act up.  So I just leave it on and turn down the screen brightness.
I'm concerned about the long-term wear and tear on the potentiometer.

Keith R. Scidmore
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is it posible to start a process without visible icon ?
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:58:48 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Dec22.193012.12813@cs.tu-berlin.de> ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes:
>I just installed IBM TCP/IP on my machine. TCP/IP consists of a lot of
>server processes (daemons) by its nature. Every one of these daemons, which
>only run in the background and never need any interaction, gets an icon
>on the OS/2 desktop.
>So with 10 daemons running on a 14" screen there is not much desktop space
>left for real apps.
>So is there any way to start a process without a visible icon ?

Assuming you have elected to have icons minimize to the Minimized
Window Viewer (from the setup screen in OS/2 System -> System Setup ->
System), you can remove these icons.

To do so, delete \STARTUP.CMD.  Create a program object which does
nothing but run \TCPIP\BIN\TCPSTART.CMD.  Drag a shadow of this
program object to your Startup folder.

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From: bab@se39.wg2.waii.com (Brian Button)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Unexpected DOS Error 5 ?????
Date: 2 Jan 93 17:24:38 GMT
Organization: Western Geophysical Exploration Products
NNTP-Posting-Host: se39.wg2.waii.com

While I was home over Christmas, I happened to start talking to a
friend about PC's. It turns out he had just purchased a 486DX2/66 and
was running OS/2 with dual-boot. After I quit drooling, I started
helping him configure it to run at its best.

During this process, we ran into a couple of problems I couldn't solve.

1) He was running an ATI Ultra Plus (I think that's what it was
called). OS/2 put it into 8514/A mode at VGA resolution by default,
and he's unhappy with the refresh rate and the resolution.

My best answer for him, especially after reading a few of the threads
around this group the past few days, is to live with it until OS/2
2.1, which should have ATI drivers. Any other suggestions?

2) The much more serious problem was an error message when we tried to
start up a bunch of migrated DOS apps. He kept getting the error
message mentioned in the Subject for this post. I've seen this before,
but I can't remember how I fixed it. I suggested that he just
reinstall most of these apps under OS/2, but I promised to check this
out before he did that. Any help for him?

Any help anyone can give would go a long way to completing my friend's
commitment to OS/2 over DOS/MS-Windows, which would be a Good Thing :)

bab
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Opinion: What IBM should change in OS/2
From: Barry Pederson <UD092096@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:10:47 CST
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Change the packaging of the documentation that comes with OS/2:

   I really really really..... hate opening up OS/2 (and many other IBM
   software packages) to find dozens of separate little booklets, cards,
   flyers, etc.  License information, proof of license, multi-lingual license
   information, index to licenses....  Guides to this, that and the other
   thing.  Cards for registration, cards for comments, cards to get more
   cards.

   Does every department at IBM get to print their own little scrap for
   inclusion in the box?  I think it would be much better to put everything
   in one or two manuals, like with DOS manuals.  At least then, you wouldn't
   have to worry about missing one crucial scrap that tells you what you want
   to know.

   One comprehensive manual ... One comprehensive index ... a good thing

       Barry
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
Subject: Re: "IBM is listening." How? (was Re: IBM won't accept Internet...)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:49:28 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: IBM problem report compuserve cis

In <gershon.724973524@husc.harvard.edu> gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon) writes:

>dwl@watson.ibm.com (David W. Levine) writes:

>>The good news is
>>that your complaints are getting very direct, unfiltered exposure to
>>the people who can fix it.  

>>David W. Levine --  dwl@watson.ibm.com -- IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center
>>                   -- My Opinions, IBM's hardware. -- 
>>"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your
>>aim" - George Santayana  

>I am very glad to hear this.  But what exactly do you mean?  Do the
>programmers of OS/2 read this group?  If so, why don't we ever hear
>from them?  Even if not them, then someone else.  It would be nice
>once in a while to know what involved people think of all our "OS/2
>should do this" and "why does/doesn't OS/2 do that?" comments.  As I
>have said here before, it would be encouraging to IBM's sophisticated
>customers (sophisticated == serious enough about computers in general
>and OS/2 in particular to read this group or similar groups on CI$) to
>know that they are listening.  Assigning some people to maintain an
>"official" presence on these groups would be good for customer
>confidence.  (Hiring Mr. Timothy Sipples full time to do this would
>be a good start... :-)

Everyone internally has read-only access to this and the other OS/2
newsgroups via a shadowing mechanism that comes through Almaden, CA.
Unfortunately, not many of those who can read it are also able to reply,
because it requires SMTP access to the internet.  Worse yet, it is
rather easy to acquire this; the forms are online and all it usually
requires is their manager's "signature", but many people don't know this.

Cheers,
Q
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Hot-key to kill WPS?
Date: 3 Jan 93 17:46:59 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan3.041645.29679@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>> However, for better or worse, Microsoft has redefined CTRL-ALT-DEL
>> (although they probably weren't the first).  
>Well, DesqView redefined CTRL-ALT-DEL quite a while ago. I found it
>EXTREMELY useful. It is redefined in such a way that you can still argue
>that its function has not changed - it reboots the machine. In the DV case
>(and WinEnh I presume) it reboots the _virtual_ machine, thus killing the
>app. DV allows CTRL-SHIFT-METABUCKEY-DEL (can't remember offhand) to reboot
>the physical machine.

Now just one question: how am I supposed to explain the concept of a
"virtual machine" to someone who hasn't used computers before, in ten
words or less?

Let's take the case of OS/2 here.  If I'm using the System Editor,
that's not a virtual machine.  If I'm using a seamless copy of
WordPerfect for Windows, that's a virtual machine (possibly with a
copy of 1-2-3 for Windows running alongside).  If I'm using DOS
WordPerfect, that's another virtual machine.  Now when exactly does
this CTRL-ALT-DEL take effect on the virtual machine?  You mean, it
behaves differently if I'm in the System Editor or DeScribe?  :-)  You
mean, if I try it in WordPerfect for Windows, 1-2-3 for Windows also
comes down?  :-)

This sort of borders on a religious issue, and I did suggest the
remedy that I prefer now that we're in this mess (namely that, when
you press CTRL-ALT-DEL, you are given the opportunity to press it
again to reboot the system or hit ESC to back out).  However, we're
supposed to be trying to make computers easy (not harder or more
confusing) to use, and we've still got a long way to go.  It's real
simple right now: CTRL-ALT-DEL reboots the system, CTRL-ESC switches
among running tasks and open windows (and lets you close anything out
there).  CTRL-ESC DOES allow you to shut down a virtual machine -- the
function is already in there.  CTRL-ALT-DEL isn't going to do any
better -- this is a protected mode operating system, after all.  If
CTRL-ESC doesn't work, then IBM's programmers need to find out what
the problem is and correct it.  (ALT-F4 for tasks running in windows,
DOS, Windows, or OS/2, accomplishes the same thing, by the way.)

For ten years plus CTRL-ALT-DEL has meant "reboot the system."  Why
should that change (in standalone OS/2, anyway, which is single user)?
The only thing I think that needs to be changed is to make it idiot
proof -- you have to hit it twice to get the system to restart.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bsn@world.std.com (Brent S Noorda)
Subject: Re: leave OS/2 running - the monitor too?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:41:59 GMT

I recently worked in an office where it was customary to leave the
computers on.  I believe I was the only one out of hundreds who
turned my machine off each night.  The reason they left there machines
on, sometimes several machines per engineer, was, I believe, because
they were so proud of their awesome screen savers.

The business owners did not mind this practice because they paid a fixed
lease and did not pay extra for the tons of extra electricity used.

This leave-it-on behaviour was very hard for me to understand, particularly
because outside the window of the office building we could see the
power plant.  This plant input oil and output electricity, which we
could see on the form of awesome screen savers, and also output
tons of pollution, much of which we could see in the form of darks
clouds coming from the smokestacks.  I use to point out the window at
the smoke and say "There's your awesome screen saver."

TURN IT OFF.  If you're not making smogulous smog you can see then you're
making smogulous smog you can't see, and if you're not making smogulous
smog then you're flooding people from their homelands and poisoning the
waterways.

If you were designing a computer, wouldn't you design it so that it could
withstand the tremendous pressures of being turned on and off once a day
for a few years?
From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Modem Problems  - Need Help (IBM: read this)
Date: 26 Dec 1992 01:26:06 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

In article <1h7i6dINNj5v@cae.cad.gatech.edu> chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen) writes:
>It takes about 40-50 seconds to get a dir of the root directory (has about
>15 files in the directory I dir).  And this is with NO other programs

check your config.sys to see if priority_disk_io is set to yes. 
that might help.  also, have you tried resetting the priorities in
the dos settings menu? 

>Someone told me I needed a 16550 UART (buffered) chip.  Is this so?

don't know... i don't have one and procomm+ (Dos) runs merrily w/ all my
other programs.  during downloading, i can still do stuff w/ 
wordperfect (dos) and all my other goodies.  in fact at one time i was
restoring some gifs via fastback 2.0(?) (dos), writing a paper in
wp, and downloading some gifs in the background. 

>beta Version, however, the original 2.0 had this very same problem,
>so nothing has changed performance wise going from 2.0 to 2.01 beta,
>in the modem respect.

perhaps there's something wrong w/ the beta?  (although i face anything
as severe as yours while i had the ga, beta, and now the service pack.
install the service pack and see if everthing gets better.  

btw:  how did you get windows to download so well in the background?
	my mac friend and i use to laugh at it because everytime i
	try to download in the bg, it just simply dies!  (i also have
	a 486/33)
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From: rkimmel@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Kimmel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: File Xfers under OS/2 Communications
Date: 3 Jan 1993 11:13:50 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan2.085224.1@vax1.umkc.edu> slee@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>I'm seeing a problem w/communications in a dos window/fullscreen session, and
>was looking for an assist
>
>I run Telix in a dos session, and d/l's (to me) arrive at about 1200 cps on a
>9600 bps connect. When I try to u/l, I can only achieve transfer rates of
>570-600 bps. Are there any special settings needed to enable high speed file
>xfers _from_ my machine?
>
>I'm running with the October CSD; any assistance is much appreciated.

How do you get 1200 cps with a 9600 baud modem?  is that archived files?  I've never got it over 1100.


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: victor.ng@rose.com (victor ng)
Subject: Enhanced Mode???
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:34:25 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-01-93 15:29
I was just wondering how OS/2 now support 386 Enhanced mode Windows 
apps if this compromises system integrity like so many people have 
said in the past.  

Vic
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