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From: arun@csvaxd.csuohio.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,soc.culture.indian
Subject: HINDUSTANI VOCAL CONCERT, CLEVELAND, OHIO
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:38:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: csvaxd.1992Apr6.193802.54
Organization: Cleveland State University


                         
                         MUSIC CIRLCE 
                              OF
                           CLEVELAND


                           Presents

                      A Hindustani Vocal Concert

   
 Date : April 7, 1992, Tuesday, at 7.30 p.m

 Place : DRINKO recital hall, Room 105, Music & Communication Bldg.
         Cleveland State University,
         Euclid Ave & E 21st. Street.
         Cleveland, Ohio

 Artist: ARATI ANKALIKAR-TIKEKAR (Vocal)
         RAMDAS PALSULE   (Tabla)
         BALASAHEB TIKEKAR  (Harmonium)


For details contact : Mr. Narayan Dravid (216) 582-0028 (home)
                                         (216) 433-2733 (office)

                      Prof. Tuttle (216) 687-2037
From: jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Correction to `Bhavayami..' lyrics.
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:51:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: noiro.29E1EF34.21177
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <29DF5963.29570@orion.oac.uci.edu> jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:

    I find that there were a few silly mistakes in the `bhAvayAmi' lyrics
    that I posted a couple of days back. I had a request from someone to
    provide some meanings. Made me look through the whole stuff more 
    critically. I find that there are some lines that I don't understand.
    Anyone has some authoritative answers ?   May be a full line-by-line
    translation ?  It seems to be a great piece for that..

    The stuff follows.

    Jay.         R. Jayakrishnan, Civil Engg, Univ of California, Irvine.


> bhAvukavitaraNaparA
> pAngalIlA lasitam

    This could be  more correct as `ApAnga lIla..'.  Mr. Srinivasan Pichumani
    told me this. Anyone knows exactly what that means ?

> dinakarAnvaya tilakam
> divyagAdhi suta savanA

    What does the line `divyagAdhi..' mean ?

> anakhamISa cApabhangam

    This is my typo. It should be `anagha..'  meaning `blemishless' ?

> khanakupita bhRugurAma

    Typo here too. Should be `ghanakupita..'  meaning `heavily angry' ?

> SuddhadhanyAsi

    Oh no, Of course, it is dhanyAsi  (not `Suddha.., so it is impure ? :-)

    Big mistake here. Apologies to everyone. I would like to think it was
    because of my drowsiness at an early morning hour when I typed it.

> vihatA abhishEkamadha
> vipinagatam AryavAca

    Anyone knows exactly what this means ?

> sucarita khaTajadattAnu-
> pamita vaishNavAstRam
    
    Should be `ghaTajadattAnupamita'.  `ghaTam' means `pot'. `ghaTaja(n)'
    is `one who was born in a pot'. Isn't that agstya, the sage ?

> atighOra SURppaNakha
> vacanAgata harAtiharam

    should be `kharAdiharam'. `khara(n)' was one of the three rAkshasas,
    `kharAdi' referring to `khara(n) and others'.

> anakha pampA tIrasangha-
> tAanjanEya nabhOmaNi

    Again, `anagha' is the correct one.  I do have a doubt whether it is
    `tIrasangatAnjanEya..'.  `sangatam' would mean `on meeting'.

> jvalanabhUta janakasutA

    A couple of people pointed out to me that this could be `jvalanapUta'.
    I still think it is `jvalanabhUta', meaning `born from flames'.
    Of course sIta was born from the earth, but was `born again' from
    the flames at agnipravESam.  I remember a story about the real sIta
    being kept away by agnidEva, on rAma's request (as he knew about the
    future), and the sIta that rAvana stole away being a `mAyAsIta'. Thus
    sIta was effectively `born again' from the flames.  Am I correct in
    this ?   In any case, I don't know what `pUta' would mean in Sanskrit.

    Let's discuss..
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: banerj@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov ()
Subject: Re: Review of a Tabla concert
Keywords: Alla Rakha, Zakir Hussain
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:16:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.061859.5117@nynexst.com> naik@nynexst.com (Jay Naik) writes:

[Review deleted]
Thanks for the review!

> Roopak Taal, has seven beats ; its thekaa : 
>    x           2         3                x  - sam  
>   tee tee na | dhee na | dhee na         2,3 - taalee 
>
>Dhammar taal has 14 beats; its thekaa :
>  x                    2         O            3          
>  ka dhee ta dhee ta | dhaa  - | ge dhee na | dhee na ta - 
>
>  (This is the way I know it; there are many versions of it.
>  Dhamaar is usually played on the pakhaawaj, in dhrupad singing).
>  By the way, these two taals show why the Indian taals are 'additive'
>  and the western metre is 'divisive'. 

Could you elaborate on this last comment of yours?? I'm lost! 

>---------------------------
> glossary: 
>
>chakradaar tihai - a triple repetition of a rhythmic phrase, whose
>		   last syllable falls on the sam.
>                 ...| tita kata dha tita | kata dha tita kata | dha (sam)

This one is not a "chakradaar" tihai but is a "basic" tihai. A "ch. . . "
would be 'tihai of tihai-s', such as:

| -tA kiTa dhA -tA | kiTa dhA -tA kiTa | -tA kiTa dhA -tA | kiTa dhA -tA kiTa |
  O                  13                  1                  5

| -tA kiTa dhA -tA | kiTa dhA -tA kiTa | dhA
  O                  13                  1

This would be a simple "chakradaar" tihAi derived from the one quoted above.
Sorry for the different notation - O = khAli; 1 = sam; other numbers denote
the sequential number of the mAtrA.

Cheers 

Amitava
From: AXS128@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Hindi Songs based on ragas
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:55:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

Hello netters
I was wondering if someone could post a list of hindi
songs based on ragas with the song , the movie, the singer(s) , the
music director and of cousre the raga it is based on. For those of
you who are interested I have a partial list of my own that I made
up and typed up on the Mac. using hindi characters. All responses
could  be sent to me personally or posted on the net. I will add
to my list and post a complete tally later on. Your help will be
sincerely appreciated.
Akshey Sehgal
From: wernercg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig Werner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: concert review
Keywords: seshagopalan
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:53:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr13.041226.26878@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, aravind@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (rangarajan.aravind) writes...
> 
> A Review of a Concert by T. N. Seshagopalan 
> 
>(The carnatic vocalist T.N. Sehagopalan is currently on a US tour,
>accompanied by G. Chandramouli on the violin and Neyveli Narayanan on
>the mridangam.  This is a review of a concert given today, April 12, at
>Rutgers U. in New Jersey.  )
> 
Thank you for your detailed review.  I hope your efforts will
stimulate others to review concerts they have heard.  We
frequently read postings about exciting concerts, but we often
have no easy way of knowing how they turned out.

Craig Werner <wernercg@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu,
wernercg@ubvms.bitnet>
From: rajiv@saras.watson.ibm.com (Rajiv Ramaswami)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Carnatic vocal concert in NY area announcement
Keywords: carnatic vocal concert
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:18:10 GMT
Reply-To: rajiv@watson.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Research


                         AN EVENING OF CLASSICAL MUSIC
                         _____________________________



                      Sri Trichur V. Ramachandran (vocal)
                             Sri. V.V.Ravi (violin)
                      Sri Srimushnam Raja Rao (mridangam)

                        3.00pm, Sunday, 26th April 1992
                   Hindu Samaj, Pye Lane, Wappinger Falls, NY

          Sri  Ramachandran  is a disciple of the great vocalist, G.N.
          Balasubramaniam. He also  studied  under  Smt.  M.L.Vasantha
          Kumari.  He received many awards including the Best Musician
          award from the Music academy in 1965,1971, 1979 and the Best
          Musician  award  from  the Indian Fine Arts Society in 1988.
          Sri Ramachandran has a vast  repertoire  and  sings  in  the
          strict classical tradition.

          Sri  V.V.Ravi  and  Sri  S.Raja  Rao are highly sought after
          accompanists of a high caliber. Their names  are  seen  very
          frequently on the Sangeetha casettes.



          FOR FURTHER INFORMATION:
          ________________________


             A.Nagarajan                   914-227-7940
          P.V.Kamesam    914-226-6494
             Subbu Iyer                    914-245-5197
          U.Narayanan    914-338-2530

              this program is sponsored by the INDIA MUSIC CIRCLE

________________________________________________________
         DIRECTIONS

>From Taconic take the Rte. 52 exit (1/2 mile north of I84).

Take 52 West towards Fishkill.  After about 4 lights, you see
the IBM Fishkill plant to your left. At the traffic light,
Turn right onto County rd. 31 (there is a blue board)
going North until you hit a T jn. which is Rte. 82.
Turn left into 82 West and then right into Rte. 29.
Turn right into All Angels rd., go for 2-3 miles and turn right
into Pye lane.

On Pye lane, as soon as you see mobile homes on the right,
look to the left and you should see a narrow path
going up a hill leading to the Hindu Samaj.  On All Angels, If you come
to a traffic light( myers corner rd.) with a Mosque-like building on the
right, it is too late.  You crossed Pye lane. Backtrack.
From: sastry@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Sastry A V R R)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Lyrics wanted..
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:11:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36086
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


	Could anyone  mail me the lyrics of 

		Nagumomu kanaleni ...

	Thanks in advance.

	-Sastry
	(sastry@cse.ogi.edu)

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: rst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (R. Sritharan)
Subject: Re: Musician Among Musicians
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:08:32 GMT

In article <29E90451.14951@noiro.acs.uci.edu> jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.142014.11276@newstand.syr.edu> mrangasw@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Muralidhar Rangaswamy) writes:
>>S.Pandian in his articles mentions that Balamuralikrishna is the musician among
>>musicians. I wholeheartedly agree. It is worthwhile pointing out that he has
>>done something that only the great musical luminary Muthuswamy Dikshitar has
>>accomplished (i.e., composing songs in 72 Melakrata Ragas). Among other things,
>>
>>Muralidhar Rangaswamy
>
>  This is not correct. Koteeswara Iyer has composed songs in all the 72
>  melakarta ragas. In any case, I do not understand what is so great about
>  composing songs in all those ragas. How many have heard even a handful of
>  Koteeswara Iyer's songs ?  If Balamurali's songs are good (and I would
Actually, how many have heard at least one composition in each of the
melakarta ragas ?
>  expect them to be reasonably good..), time will prove that. If not, it is
>  not a big deal.
>
>  BTW, what have the experts said about those compositions ?  Do they bring
>  out the ragabhava ?  Are the songs appropriate for the ragas ?  How many
>  experts have enough knowledge to comment on the rarer Melakartas ? Just
>  wondering.
>
>  R. Jayakrishnan         Civil Engg, Univ of California, Irvine.
From: pravin@usenet.umr.edu (Pravin Sitaram)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Lalgudi Jayaraman's Thillanas
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:32:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Missouri -- Rolla

Hi,

I am interested in getting a recording of Lalgudi Jayaraman's Thillanas.
Does anyone have a recording?  If so please let me know.  My email address
is

  pravin@clciris.chem.umr.edu

Thanks!
From: ramesh@cs.UAlberta.CA (Ramesh S. Sankaranarayana)
Subject: buying a tabla in US or Canada
Keywords: tabla, north america
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:50:50 GMT


	Does anyone out there know if one can buy a tabla in USA or Canada, and
if yes, where? Also, what would the approximate price be? My email address can 
be found in my signature. Thanks in advance.

--
Ramesh S. Sankaranarayana              |        Email : ramesh@cs.ualberta.ca
Department of Computing Science        |        Home  : (403)-436-7906
University of Alberta,                 |        Off.  : (403)-492-3977
Edmonton T6G 2H1, CANADA               |
From: parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar)
Subject: Re: Review of a Tabla concert
Keywords: Alla Rakha, Zakir Hussain 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:28:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.061859.5117@nynexst.com> naik@nynexst.com (Jay Naik) writes:
>
>
***deleted***

Thanks for a wonderful review. Hope we can see more of these on the
net.

>
>	The next part of the concert was Ustad Sultan Khan and ZH. 
>SK started off with raag vachaspati, a raaga of the karnatak school 
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Raga Vachaspati I know of, goes like this:

S G m P N S' : S' N D P m G S

As you can see, it is almost like Raga MaruBihag with the rishab
deleted. (MaruBihag also uses a shuddha madhyam). Is the Carnatic
Vachaspati similar?? There is a nice Marathi natyageet in this Raga which
goes as (am not too sure of the words): "layu kashi valkala.." set to
Jhaptaal.


Rajan Parrikar
==============
email: parrikar@mimicad.colorado.edu
From: krishna@ee.uwm.edu (Vijayaraghavan Jayakrishna)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: lyrics
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:22:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Apr9.182234.709
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee


    hai,
       Could anyone post the lyrics of the song
     "nee daya raadha..."by Thyagaraja.

Thanking you in advance

--

  /\/\/\/\/\//\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/  
       
       -//////////////      /       /
From: pravin@usenet.umr.edu (Pravin Sitaram)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Accompanying artistes
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:16:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Missouri -- Rolla

Hi netters,

I have been an avid reader of this group for over a month and a half now.
Most of the articles seem to be pointed towards the more theoretical aspect
of classical music.  I appreciate the time and effort people are putting into
this and commend the final result.

I do have one suggestion.

How about including features and discussions on the sidemen - the accompanying
artistes.  I think since this group devotes itself to Indian classical music
it should include discussions on them.  

How about that?

Pravin
From: br1v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Bala Ramalingam)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: 'Nagumomu' in Madhyamavathi - reply to P.J. Narayanan's query
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:44:38 GMT
	<PJN.92Apr10125930@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Masters student, Metallurgy and Materials Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

That song, I think, doesn't start as ' Nagumomu Kanaleni', but it does
start with 'Nagumomu'.  The song is in the cassette, 'Utsava Sampradaya
Krithis (of Saint Tyagaraja)'.  All the songs in the cassette are sung
by Sangeetha Kalanidhi Maharajapuram Santhanam.

-  Bala   Ramalingam.
From: svaradar@sangeet.intel.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: RE: Composers
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:46:18 GMT
Reply-To: svaradar@sangeet.intel.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTeL Santa Clara Microcomputer Division

>  This is a composition of Gopalakrishna Bharathi. I think it goes
>   "Ananda Natam Aaduvar Thillai", invoking the blessings of the
>   presiding deity at Chidamdaram (Lord Nataraja).
>

Acutally this is a composition of Nilakanta Sivan, not Gopalakrishsa
Bharati. The mudra "nilakanta" is present in the charanam.

>
>   Talking about composers, I was listening to a wonderful Tamil piece
>   over the weekend by KVN with M.Chandrasekaran and Vellore Ramabhadran.
>   The starting words are "Manam Irangadha Iraiva Un Manam Irangadha" in
>  Mayamalavagowla, Adi Talam. Anybody knows the composer?

This is a composition of a contemporary  composer by name
Swarna Venkatesha Dikshitar of Chidambaram. He has composed
a few other songs which KVN renders, such as "Swarna Kala Bhairawam"
in Kalyani.

Srivatsan
Srivatsan H. Varadarajan          
svaradar@sangeet.intel.com
(408)765-4866
From: balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: A Request : Classical Music Primer and Beyond ?!
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:05:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr15.130513.23995
Distribution: na
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison

Hello Everyone,
   This is a request for all of you music experts out here. Iam a beginner
as far as appreciation of Indian classical music is considered and very
much long for the day when I can appreciate music at the level at which
all of you do. I've fortunately had the oppurtunity to listen to a few
music experts explain certain aspects of Indian music. Unfortunately,
however most of the stuff seems complicated ( Esp the sections on the
tala system) and difficult to comprehend in the absence of written 
material. I know of other people who've had their exposure to Indian
classical music only after coming to the USA ( Ironically?!) and
have similar problems regarding the lack of written material. Mr Sriram
of Georgia tech embarked on a noble venture sometime back and brought
out a " Carnatic Music Primer ". I think this book provided 
invaluable basic information to many a uninitiated person like me, 
thus arming us with the prerequisites for understanding the more
subtle aspects of Indian music. It is at this stage where your
invaluable assistance is solicited. I was wondering if people could
post short sections on basic and progressively advanced material, I 
could collate/edit all these material and bring it out in book like
form ( Either in hard copy OR in electronic form ) for distribution
to interested people on a non-profit basis.
  Iam willing to assume total responsibility in coordinating this 
activity and people can feel free to e-mail me their opinions 
regarding this. 

Thanks a lot
Prabhu Balaraman
balarama@cae.wisc.edu
---------------------------------------
PS: I inadverdently cross-posted an article titled " Rhmye Time"
on this forum, sometime back. My sincere apologies.
osc!ashwin@ames.arc.nasa.gov - my mail to you bounces. Recieved
your message - thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: UPCOMING CONCERT AT WESLEYAN
From: bthiyagaraja@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:05:27 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

                           :CONCERT ANNOUNCEMENT:

THIS IS TO INFORM YOU THAT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS, WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY 
WILL BE PRESENTING  A CARNATIC CLASSICAL MUSIC CONCERT BY:

SHRI SRIRAM PARASURAM - VIOLIN
SHRI RAMNAD RAGHAVAN  - MRIDANGAM

ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 8, AT 8.00 P.M., AT THE WORLD MUSIC HALL, CENTER FOR THE 
ARTS COMPLEX, WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY, MIDDLETOWN, CT.
ADMISSION: $5.00 GENERAL
	   $1.00 STUDENTS

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: tmm@cs.brown.edu (T. M. Murali)
Subject: Lyrics needed
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:10:33 GMT


Could some kind soul either post or send by email the lyrics of the
Bharathiyar song `Viduthalai, viduthalai, viduthalai'?

Thanks, 
   Murali
From: krishnan@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Balasubramanian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Western Classical Meets Indian Classical
Keywords: Operas, Ragas
Date: 1 Apr 92 17:33:50 GMT
Reply-To: krishnan@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Balasubramanian)
Distribution: USA, World
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <1992Mar30.230723.18434@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> schatt@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Sanjiev Chattopadhya) writes:
>A Number of people have discussed the Indian classical meets Western
>Classical type of music.  

  Parts deleted ....


> However, I dont think that the classical indian and classical western
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> can blend well.  Indian classical is an inherently extemporaeneous
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> form music (i.e. a lot of improvisation on scales  and rythm within a 
> loose structure).   Classical western is quite the opposite  --
> It is extremely structured.   That is why I think more needs to
> be explored in the "Indian classical meets Jazz" domain.  I
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> have heard some of this music and it is very good.  


>--Sanjiev Chattopadhya


    While I wouldn't want to comment on whether Indian Classical music
can blend well with Western Classical, I would definitely second your
thought that Indian Classical and Jazz go well together. In my opinion,
some classic exponents of this mix are L. Shankar, Zakir Hussain, 
Jan Garbarek and John Maclaughlin. Right now, I have had the opportunity 
to listen to a few CD's and feel very excited about their fantastic 
creativity and imagination. For other who may not know about
this, I list below three CD's which I regard to be quite good.


1. Zakir Hussain : Making Music ( with Jan Garbarek, Hari Prasad Chaurasia
                   & John Maclaughlin ) ECM Records  
2. L. Shankar    : M.R.C.S.  ( with Zakir Hussain & some others I can't
                   remember )           ECM Records
3. L. Shankar    : Song for Everyone ( with Zakir Hussain, Jan Garbarek
                   & Trilok Gurtu )     ECM Records

BTW, ECM has quite a good fraction of the CD's Shankar has produced in
the 80's. The recordings are exceptionally good.






--
B. krishnan
From: jdeitch@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Music on the PBS History of Computers program
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:54:50 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

pdm@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu (peter d. mark) writes:
 
> Last night PBS broadcast the first of a 5 part series on the
> history of computers.
> 
> The program began and ended with some very interesting sounding
> music for soprano and a small number of instruments (i can't
> remember which!) that seemed both unusual and captivating.

The credits listed the music as being by Peter Howell of the BBC
radiophonic workshop.  I don't know if this was just the theme music or
all the music.  If it's everything, he's come a long, long way since Dr who.

- Jonathan
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