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From: Tan.M.Lam@Dartmouth.EDU
Subject: Summer Dance 92
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: Tan.M.Lam@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: N/A
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:42:24 GMT

														
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: minh@eggcream.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Minh Lang)
Subject: test - don't read
Organization: ./organization
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:27:06 GMT

This is a test
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: s903031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Khanh Buu Nguyen)
Subject: Re: [music] One more try - by Timmy T (for k)
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:33:39 EST

nvt@netcom.com (Fam Com) writes:

>*>In article <92208.192938U55041@uicvm.uic.edu>, Thu.c Quye^n <U55041@uicvm.uic.edu> writes...
>*>>     The song is so touching.
>*>>>     This song has always been one of my favorites.
>*>>>     Thanks for posting this song.
>*>> 
>*>>     Best Regards,
>*>> 
>*>>       TQ
>*
>*
>*>	There's no second chance.  So, there isn't another try.
>*>	The song means nothing to me.  However, the music is good.
>*
>*        heehee why not???  There's always another CHANCE!!! :-)
>*
>*>m.l.
>*
>*F-A
>*
>         Nah!!!!  Opportunity knocks only once, there is NO second chance !!!

>							NVT

	Cuz you aren't LUCKY ENOUGH! :-))

	KN

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nguyenv
Subject: va`i va^`n
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:56:48 GMT

Vo.ng Quo^'c

-Da~ ma^'y nghi`n na(m cuo^.c be^? da^u
Cha.nh lo`ng thu"o"ng Quo^'c nghi~ ma` -dau
Giang so"n ga^'m vo'c va`ng son a^'y
Tra?i ma^'y thu phong -da~ ba.c ma`u!!!

nguyenv,
From: v-nguyen@cis.ohio-state.edu (Viet-Anh V Nguyen)
Subject: Re: [EDU] The Academic Path in Medicine Science
Originator: v-nguyen@retina.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:53:23 GMT

In article <18471@drutx.ATT.COM> nguyen@drutx.ATT.COM (Christopher Chu) wrote:

>Dear Viet Anh Nguyen,

 ...

>Finally, I think the consolidation of sophisticated branches of complex
>knowledge within a science to provide specialization training for
>well-established sub-fields that go beyond the university doctorate
>demonstrates the maturity of such science in the academia. In this
>response, it is not my intention to argue against your confusing apple-orange
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>comparisons but is only my opinion that medicine science has gone far beyond
 ^^^^^^^^^^^
>most of the others with respect to formal professional training program.
>
>Sincerely Yours,
>
>Chris Chu, nguyen@drutx.ATT.COM (Internet), att!drutx!nguyen (UUCP)


My dear Chris,

I did not make any comparisons; I was just trying to show that your comparisons
were not appropriate. But I guess I can't get to you on that. I'd very much 
like to continue this discussion with you, however, it seems to me that all
you've done is trying to prove that Fran Lebowitz was right when she said:

          "The opposite of talking isn't listening - it's waiting."

As such, with deep regrets, I must call it quits. I do remain though

Respectfully yours,
Vietanh Nguyen

Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: What's in a name?
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:07:31 GMT

THEO@licra.dn.mu.oz.au writes:
>Karelia province of Finland
>(pre WWII) is now an area of Russia - The situation as I understand was that
>Finland lost this territory to Russia after WWII and was signed over in the
>1948 Treaty of Friendship - I have no idea if Finland had much choice;

Most of what is Karelian republic withing the Russian federation
has never belonged to Sweden/Finland, except in the continuation
war during WWII while the Finns where lucky in their warfare. The
areas Finland had to cede in WWII only compose a minor part of
Russian Karelia. (And some parts are parts of Russia proper.)

>Strasbourg - claims that a German city has been usurped by the French - the
>Franks named the site Strateburgum (5th C?). Strasburg was in fact German
>only from 1871 to WWI.

Not correct. Strasbourg came under France in 1681. Before that it
was a German city within the Holy German-Roman Empire. Of course,
since the empire was long not much more than a paper tiger, one
could dispute that it was part of Germany. But whatever, it was
part of some state ruled by Germans (and certainly not Frenchmen!)

>It seems to me that the Macedonian problem is unique

As already have been mentioned there are a couple of present-day
parallels: Luxembourg-Belgium, Azerbaijan-Iran, Benin-Nigeria and
Moldova-Roumania. Of course the situation in each case is different,
but the main difference seems to be that Macedonia's neighbour is 
Greece. (And that Greece happens to be lucky to hold an EC veto.)
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Dabras Laiks!
From: George Bogavac <K2GT@UNB.CA>
Subject: mutlu, inc.
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:59:43 GMT

>
>                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them
>                      and in whatever circumstances you find them.
>                      Turkish children also should be killed as
>                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.'
>                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


                      'KILL mutlus and mutlu related material
                       in whatever newsgroup you find them and
                       under whatever account they appear.
                       Small mutlus (<300 lines) should also be
                       KILLed as they form a danger to human
                       intelligence.'
                                     ( me, 1992 )
From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:24:11 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Women, I am about to launch a free electronic matching service on 
Usenet.  Unfortunately, more guys than gals have expressed an 
interest so far.  If you would like to see the fourth draft of my 
questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's needs as well as 
men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I posted in 
alt.personals.
 
This service is serious and I already have 119 men and 86 women signed
up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected and
programmers are being lined up for the construction of the listserver.
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make sure
that matches are compatible culturally.
 
                                                            Eric Klien
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,eunet.politics,talk.politics.misc
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: Separation vs. integration
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:06:33 GMT

Ulick Stafford (ulick@angelico.helios.nd.edu) writes:
>There are many regions of Western European countries that may prefer a
>greater degree of autonomy, but are not rushing headlong to secede,
>realising that there may be some benefit to being part of a greater country,
>even if their own Nationalism is not totally satisfied.  I am thinking
>of the Catalan and Basque regions of Spain, and say, Scotland in the UK.

The difference is only that the support for independence is weaker
in these regions, the sentiments are undeniably present, and in
case of Basque quite violent too. I don't think "being part of a
greater country" is the only argument, particularly not for Catalunya 
which is the wealthiest part of Spain. There are at least two more
factors:
* The Czecho-Slovak marriage is fairly recent, while for instance the 
  Castille and Aragonia united already in the 15th century.
* As a consequence of this, these regions are less homogeneous than
  Czechy and Slovakia. Something like 60-70% of the people in Catalunya
  has Catalan as their native language. In Basque only a minority
  know Basque at all.

I think however that a development of the EC to a federation, will
make it easier for changes to occur. Breaking out Catalonia from
Spain as an independent state might be a step too long to climb,
but splitting a substate in two is less dramatic. And indeed this
would be a development I would welcome.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Dabras Laiks!
From: tipenu@uta.fi (Petteri Numminen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Origins of the EC-flag???
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:11:28 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

Who designed the EC-flag. The blue one with 12 stars in the middle, you know.
It is rapidly developing into THE icon of European Community. 

And what will happen, if there is going to be more members in the EC? More
stars, so that the flag will finally look like USA's stars and stripes, but 
without the stripes?



tipenu@kielo.uta.fi
From: ts03@infotrack.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Mr. Romanos is 300% sure but is he right?
Summary: Mr. Romanos's inconsistencies related to KELLY's articles
Keywords: 300%, friendly bet, excuse
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:38:47 GMT
Organization: INFOTRACK, CA

In article <...> Mr. Andrikos Romanos writes:

] I believed that if I replied to KELLY on his/her inaccuracies
] over the Jewish and Turkish Genocide (by the Greeks even from
] the time they were slaves to the Turks!!), I would get a fer-
] vent insulting reply from  H.B.Mutlu with nothing new but the
] EXACT TEXT of KELLY which I had JUST REFUTED...
] I was correct 300% for I eventually received 3 such texts but
        ############
            :-)
] I don't think  others should start pursuing similar proofs on
] a permanent basis for the situation will become even more un-
] bearable to those who do not use kill-fires...

         Nice excuse. You couldn't reply it because Kelly's 
         article was 300% true and obvious. 

] Actually,  I  do not think I will join any such "betting" un-
] less some serious money is put on the "table".   :-) :-) :-)

                                                         A.R.

         Mr. Andrikos Romanos,

         All problems arise because you, Greeks, are  always 
         300% right, not  100%.  Remember  Macedonia  issue,
         minorities in Greece, etc. Right now, I am getting 
         100% confident that Greeks slaughtered Jews and Turks 
         in 19th century while you are insisting that you don't 
         want to reply KELLY's articles because you don't want
         other people suffer from the discussion. Get a life!
         :-) :-) :-)

         I highly recommend you to review your statistics 
         and probability knowledge before any article posting 
         attempt. Also solve some exercises related to above
         topics. 
         
         -Tarik
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: ae56@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de ()
Subject: An alt.visa.us newsgroup
Originator: ae56@ma70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:12:50 GMT

As you can suppose from the subject, a newsgroup alt.visa.us has been created
a couple of days ago, dealing with different aspects of obtaining a US visa.

Dimitri.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: PXP111@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Betting
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:40:56 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


I  just  had  the chance to win some  pocket money  in a very
friendly bet.
I believed that if I replied to KELLY on his/her inaccuracies
over the Jewish and Turkish Genocide (by the Greeks even from
the time they were slaves to the Turks!!), I would get a fer-
vent insulting reply from  H.B.Mutlu with nothing new but the
EXACT TEXT of KELLY which I had JUST REFUTED...
I was correct 300% for I eventually received 3 such texts but
I don't think  others should start pursuing similar proofs on
a permanent basis for the situation will become even more un-
bearable to those who do not use kill-fires...
Actually,  I  do not think I will join any such "betting" un-
less some serious money is put on the "table".   :-) :-) :-)

                                                         A.R.
From: marshall@Ingres.COM (Success is Doing What you Love...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: FLAT TO SHARE IN GERMANY FROM 8/92 - 5/93
Keywords: TEMPLEHOF
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:05:42 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:6715 soc.culture.soviet:6420 soc.culture.greek:6927
From: smd@fct.unl.pt (Sergio Marco Duarte)
Subject: Re: Origins of the EC-flag???
Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa -- Lisbon, Portugal
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:19:42 GMT


 Jonny Axelsson <jonnya@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> Petteri Numminen (tipenu@uta.fi) asks:
>> Who designed the EC-flag. The blue one with 12 stars in the middle, you know.
>> It is rapidly developing into THE icon of European Community. 
>> 
>> And what will happen, if there is going to be more members in the EC? More
>> stars, so that the flag will finally look like USA's stars and stripes, but 
>> without the stripes?

>   (From Council of Europe propaganda filtered through memory)>
>
>   The EC flag is stolen from the Council of Europe who designed this
>   flag long before swiped by some EC committee. I don't remember who
>   actually designed the flag, but I can find out.>
>
>   I gather the Council was a bit unhappy about the theft, since it is
>   hard enough as is to maintain a separate presence from EC; they are quite
>   empathic about that they are a totally separate institution. It is
>   older than the EC too, and have almost all European countries as
>   members. 

>   The twelve stars are not meant to symbolize any particular country
>   (remember that the Council has a lot more than 12 members), but
>   "perfection". 

    I believe there was/is a star for each country, that's why when
    Portugal and Spain joined the EC, two more stars were added making the
    grand total of 12. 
    But I also remember reading somewhere that there won't be any more
    stars, even  if/when  more countries join the EC.

    So, Sweden,  Austria, Switzerland and Finland, 

    HANDS OFF!, one is ours (portuguese, I mean) :-)


>   So, if the EU keeps the symbolism, they won't change the
>   design, unless they see a EU with more or less than 12 members as
>   something less than perfect.

>   Jonny
--
 Sergio Duarte  *** smd@fct.unl.pt *** FCT/UNL *** PORTUGAL
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: efstse@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu
Subject: GL: Cyprus - Anniversary of Turkish Invasion
Originator: efstse@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu
Organization: NU
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:38:15 GMT

From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord
Subject: GL: Cyprus - Anniversary

/* Written  7:14 pm  Jul 21, 1992 by peg:greenleft in cdp:greenleft.news */

Anniversary of invasion of Cyprus

By Michael Karadjis

July 15 was the 18th anniversary of the NATO-organised 
destruction of Cyprus, in a joint action by the then military 
junta of Greece and the Turkish regime.

Following a struggle against British colonial rule in the 1950s, 
Cyprus gained independence in 1960.

The attempt by the Cypriot regime of Archbishop Makarios to 
maintain a neutralist position and reject incorporation into NATO 
led to the open hostility of the US government, which declared 
Makarios (an Orthodox archbishop) to be the ``Castro of the 
Mediterranean''!

Washington used its surrogate regimes in Greece and Turkey to 
encourage extreme nationalists among Greek and Turkish Cypriots 
and to sow clashes between the two communities, undermine the 
Cypriot government and pave the way for ``double enosis'' - the 
forced division of the island between the two ``mother 
countries''.

On July 15, 1974, the Greek junta carried out a coup in Cyprus, 
bringing to power extreme nationalist forces who wanted union 
with Greece. Claiming to want to defend the Turkish Cypriots, 
Turkey responded with a massive invasion of the island.

While this is often viewed as a Greek-Turkish war, in fact not a 
shot was fired between the two powers. Both governments have 
largely covered up their then quite public alliance and their 
open encouragement by the US, in trying to destroy the Makarios 
regime. They used extreme nationalist rhetoric to get their local 
clients to clear their respective areas of the opposing 
community.

However, the Cypriot junta fell five days later, and the Greek 
junta itself the following day. But instead of withdrawing its 
troops, Turkey intensified its invasion, occupying 38% of Cyprus 
(Turkish Cypriots are 18% of the population) and driving two-
fifths of the Greek Cypriot population, 200,000 people, from 
their homes.

Since then, Turkey has maintained an occupation force of 35,000 
troops, and has brought in about 80,000 Turkish (non-Cypriot) 
colonists to take over occupied homes and property. In the same 
period, the Turkish Cypriot population has declined to 90,000. 
Hence the Turkish Cypriots are unable to change the rightist 
regime, which opposes all attempts to find a solution.

While the US justified the slaughter in the Gulf on the basis of 
``not rewarding aggression'' in the case of the Iraqi occupation 
of Kuwait, Turkey has been rewarded with untold billions in US 
and NATO military and economic aid for the service it performed 
on their behalf.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: ts03@infotrack.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Heaviest Cross for Egypt's Copts: March of Islam
Summary: Mr. Zoran Draskovic's disability and human lives
Keywords: massacre, Bosnia, murders, logical thinking
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:53:48 GMT
Organization: INFOTRACT, CA

In Article <l7eujfINN8t6@girtab.usc.edu> (Zoran Draskovic) writes,

] The following article is reprinted from Monday's New York Times.
]            Heaviest Cross for Egypt's Copts: March of Islam.
]                           by Chris Hedges

] SANABU, Egypt -- Daniel Samaan, a 26 year-old farmer, has not left his
].....
] Coptic Christians, who number 7 million to 8 million of Egypt's 56
] million people and belong to one of the oldest denominations in
] Christendom, have become the victims of an increasingly violent campaign
] waged by Islamic militants who want to create a state ruled according to
] strict interpretations of Islamic law.


    Very unusual type of logic. Zoran says that Moslem militants have
    been killing coptic christians in Egypt, so that christian Serbs have
    the right to kill the moslems in Bosnia. Posting an article like this one
    shows the inability of Mr. Zoran Draskovic to understand the situation 
    and murders in Bosnia. Too bad! Very unlogical way of searching for
    an excuse for murders in Bosnia without considering that even if they
    are moslems, the people slaughtered by Serbs are humans and are trying
    to survive.....

    Mr. Zoran Draskovic,

    People of Bosnia are being slaughtered by your race and you are trying 
    to find an excuse for them. I pity you.

    Regards, 

    Tarik
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy)
Subject: Ye true and veridicke oryginne of "Istambul"
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:03:50 GMT


Emeritus Professor Husein Ugluk, of Uruk Hai University, Anadolu, wrote in
his "History and Toponymy of the World, the Universe, and Sundry Other
Places":

"The common belief that 'Istambul' derives from 'Islambol' is at once
 correct and erroneous. For 'Istambul' does indeed derive from 'Islambol'.
 However, 'Islambol' has itself an earlier origin, when King Richard 
 the Lion Heart, passing through Constantinopolis on his way to genociding
 a few Turks, was stopped by a traveller going the other way who asked,
 pointing to Constantinopolis: "Ism al-balad?", which means, in the
 simplified Arabic which was the lingua franca of those days: "What is
 the name of that city?"  Richard, thinking that the man was addressing
 him in English, understood his words as "Islam, bold!" and answered
 contemptuously, as a good Crusader would, "Islam? Balls!"

 Thus 'Istambul' does derive from 'Islambol'. But that word itself has
 its origin in King Richard's mistaken repartee."




Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh)
Subject: Re: From New York Times
Originator: kevinh@spider
Reply-To: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:05:53 GMT


In article <l7eujfINN8t6@girtab.usc.edu>, draskovi@usc.edu (Zoran Draskovic) writes:
|> 
|> The following article is reprinted from Monday's New York Times.
|> 
|> 
|>             Heaviest Cross for Egypt's Copts: March of Islam.
|> 
|>                            by Chris Hedges
|> 
|> SANABU, Egypt ...

... text deleted...

Thanks for that gem of information. Perhaps next time you could post this
in the relevant group!! 

kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch