From: briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass)
Subject: Re: Lifestyle Choices (was  Re: Sexuality)
Organization: Anasazi Inc Phx Az USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:33:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan01.221248.3328@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus) writes:
>Brian Douglass (briand@anasazi.com) wrote:
>: In article <1992Dec31.005642.14893@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa
>.gov (Tim Fogarty) writes:
>
>[smoking parallel, that was decimated by the Lensman in a previous post, 
>deleted]

>: Discrimination in the work place based on anything other than job
>: qualifications, is discrimination.  Why must we pigeon hole everyone in
>: society into these little minorities?
>
>From my understanding, CO2 would disqualify the above discrimination suit.
>[Can Someone email the text of CO2 to me?  I have not been able to find it in
>my local library]

CO2?  Are you speaking of the latest Civil Rights Act?

>BTW, those engaging in discrimination already pigeonhole everyone.
>
>:                                        That does nothing by fractionalize
>: society and encourage stereotyping, and the inherit prejudices that go
>: along with that.  We've all heard the stories "Oh, he's black, he must have
>: got here on Affirmative Action."  "Oh, look how sexy she dress, she must
>: have got there on her back."  "Oh, she's the bosses daughter, she got her
>: job from nepotism."
>
>As opposed to the 'good old days':  "He's a nigger, he's not qualified", "She's
>too pushy, she must be a lesbo.  Don't promote her.", "God she's sexy, I'll 
>keep her as my personal secretary.", "We can find a spot for my daughter in 
>your department for my daughter now, can't we?"  

A change of euphmism doesn't disguise the action.  Saying "He's a nigger,
he's not qualified" is just as bad "Oh, he's black, he must have got here
on Affirmative Action."  There is no gradient of one prejudice as worse
than the next, they are all prejudices.

>I think we are both saying that merit is the only valid reason for hiring and 
>promotion.  Unfortunately, many people have biases against certain people that 
>has nothing to do with their qualifications.
>

But as a society we have the right to decide which moral behaviours are
acceptable and which are not.  We have decided murder is wrong, rape,
burglarly, etc.  Once before we thought we legislated away prejudice and
descrimination.  The solution has not be en toto.  

>: Everytime we label another group of people under the law, we implicitly make
>: them seperate but equal, and that isn't equal.
>
>Until racism, sexism, orientationism, agism, and other anti-group-isms are 
>eliminated from the business world; there must be legal remedies for people who
>suffer from these forms of discrimination.

Then what, pray tell, has the Civil Rights Act of 65 (?) and the Johnson
"Great Society" reaped?  Were not these the goals of such far reaching social
legislation?  Since you explicitly state prejudices and bigotries still
exist in our society, they you implicity indict all such legislation as a
failure.  I submit it has failed because it has served to divide this
country into little group-isms, instead of uniting this country as one
people made up of individuals.  

I further submit that any further legislation that seeks to further divide 
our country into component classes will only exacerbate the problem pitting
varying classes against one another.  United we stand, divided we fall may
be trite, but it rings as true today as it did in Lincolns time.

And if anyone doubts that legislated societal seperation is a disaster in
the making, just look at old Yugoslavia.  Just replace ethnic minorities
with special interest groups, and the parallels begin to appear.

>-- 
>Mike McAngus                    |You are a fluke of the Universe.  You have no 
>mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org            |right to be here, and whether you can hear it
>The Truth is still the Truth    |or not the Universe is laughing behind your 
>Even if you choose to ignore it.|back.  -- National Lampoon, Deteriorata


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