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From: altus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Altus)
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 02:08:42 GMT

In article <dunbar.702673016@beagle> dunbar@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Scott Dunbar) writes:
>I would have to say that another long flight is
>
>Paris to Papeete on UTA/Air France
>its 24,000 Kilometers Non Stop
>Which translates to 14,880 miles i believe
>

maybe they should try flying the other way around the world!
:-)

NO commercial transport can fly that far nonstop.

your numbers are wrong.
From: pedregal@legato.cs.umass.EDU (Cris Pedregal-Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Airfares Europe->US->Europe
Keywords: reaganomics, subsidies, free-market, competition, europe
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:37:29 GMT
Reply-To: pedregal@cs.umass.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst.

In article <jog.702757317@kpc.com>, jog@kpc.com (Rajeev Jog) writes:
|> arild@milan.philosophie.uni-stuttgart.de (Arild Hestvik) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >By the way: Airfares FROM europe to the US and back is MUCH MORE expensive
|> >than from US to europe and back--Even with the same airline. For example,
|> >recently Lufthansa was advertising "super cheap" roundfares for around 1100
|> >DM (=around 700 US dollars) frankfurt-NY. In the same period, a colleague
|> >traveled Lufthansa from Pihiladelphia-Stuttgart and back for $383.60. 
|> 
|> >So we Europeans are getting ripped off with a 100% price increase! What the
|> >heck is going on here!?
|> 
|> You're paying for your governments' and your airlines' determination to
|> prevent open market competition that would drastically reduce their
|> profit margins.
|> 

Not so fast!  Wake up and smell the rot of the 80s... the "open market competition"
may be there, but  you fail to mention the fact that since deregulation there's been
little investment in (in this case, air traffic) infrastructure in the US.  And 
guess who will be billed for it when it is finally accepted that things are falling
apart and investment is needed (hint: the same who pay the S & L bailout; of course,
as long as "we" fly at least once a year, "we" benefit of the "lower" fares).
NOTE I am _not_ claiming that the europeans are doing it right (for all I know they
may be spending their "profit margins" in Monaco); just that one should not compare
using incomplete information (if they are burdening fliers with more of the cost of
the air transit infrastructure, it would be probably fairer, IMHO)

--Cris


-- 
                   Cristobal Pedregal Martin
COINS Dept. - UMass -  Amherst, MA 01003   --  pedregal@cs.umass.edu
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Mass Transit and airports (was: Re: O'HARE)
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:26:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: iecc.9204121426.AA11385
Organization: I.E.C.C.

In article <54326@hydra.gatech.EDU> you write:
>>The *BEST* part about OHare is that I can take the train directly INTO the
>>terminal. ...

>I can top it.  Atlanta's Airport MARTA train station is also inside the 
>terminal, costs less ...

In Cleveland the subway runs directly to the airport terminal.

In Philadelphia there is a commuter train branch with stops at the terminals.

In Boston, there is a subway station in the airport, but you have to take
a free connecting bus to get to the terminals.  The fare is only 85 cents,
probably the lowest in the country.  There was a golden opportunity for
a rail connection direct to the airport with the new third harbor tunnel
one end of which is within the airport and the other end is adjacent to
South Station (Amtrak, commuter, and subway) but it looks like there will
just be buses.  Fooey.

In NYC, the Howard Beach station on the A train still lets you walk to the
back of the long term lot at JFK from which a free bus will take you to the
terminals.  Not as fast as the train to the plane was, but not as expensive,
either.    The Port Authority has for years been blowing hot and cold about
direct rail access to the airports.  In Newark it would be relatively easy
to extend the PATH train which runs between downtown NYC and downtown Newark,
and which the Port Authority already owns and operates, out to the airport,
but no action seems to be in the offing.  The currently active proposal is
a light-rail connection between JFK and LGA, maybe with a connection to the
subway and LIRR in the middle, which addresses the wrong question.

As noted, there's a Metro station at Washington National although it is a
long walk or a slow bus ride to the terminals.

Isn't the new San Jose trolley supposed to go to the airport pretty soon?

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
From: steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: O'HARE
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:25:55 GMT
Organization: Flodnak, Inc., Trondheim, Norway

Phil Miesle writes:
>I'm kind of curious what kinds of experience people have had in O'Hare.  I have\
>never had a non-positive experience there, but I've also only flown United and \
>Northwest through there.
>
>However, I many people I know think that O'Hare=hell.  Why is this?

Well, i wouldn't say it was hell, but the one time i went through O'Hare
there were two hassles worth mentioning:

1. Hard to find where the public transportation into the city is.  The
transport itself was okay (though not great), it was just difficult to find.

2. The elevator system in the terminal we came in through (international
terminal on SAS) was, well, from hell.  It was difficult to figure out
which floor we were on, and which floor we wanted.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: AMEX/America West---NOT!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 08:14:07 GMT


Someone recently mentioned that the American Express student vouchers
would be accepted by America West Airlines.  According to the people
at their reservation center AS OF APRIL 1, AMERICA WEST DOES NOT ACCEPT
AMEX STUDENT VOUCHERS.

Too bad.

RNA
From: vigyan@cad.Berkeley.EDU (Vigyan Singhal)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:32:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.rteu9INNfmu
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cad.berkeley.edu

In article <rrcldINN8gm@agate.berkeley.edu> jtkohl@cs.Berkeley.EDU (John T Kohl) writes:
>In article <167C11199A.CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>
>> > What is the longest (timewise/distance)
>
>UAL schedule book (Jan 92) sez:
>
>SFO-HKG		6914 mi		14:50 

Does anyone have the duration for SFO-HKG leg on Singapore 
Airlines SQ 1.  I travelled on that last year and I think 
that it was more than 16 hrs long.

-Vigyan
From: pal@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Peter Loibl)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Part 1 - N.America Airport Codes sorted by city.
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:03:37 GMT

Hi folks!

I am intending to post losts of airport codes from all over the world.

The list of the Nort American Airport codes contains one error:

WDH: is Windhoek (Windhuk) - International, in Namibia in Southern
     Africa (that is what all Airlines say).

     the list says, that WDH is Daniel Harb, NF what can't be (or is
     there the same code for two different cities).

     Please check the code for Daniel Harbor, NF.

Thanks, Peter
From: lublin@husc8.harvard.edu (David Lublin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Cheap fares to Scotland during summer?
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:00:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I'm looking for cheap flights to Scotland this summer from Boston Logan,
Washington Dulles, or Baltimore-Washington International (BWI).  Does
anyone know of any airlines offering particularly good deals?  I'm a student,
so if anyone knows about good student discounts to Scotland, please let me
know.

Thanks.

David L.     

lublin@husc8.harvard.edu
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From: llew@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lew Yan Voon)
Subject: Re: AMEX coupons - how transferrable are they?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:30:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.133902.27985@unx.sas.com> sashyh@barfly.unx.sas.com (Heidi Harring) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.020013.27660@u.washington.edu>, treon@milton.u.washington.edu (Treon Verdery) writes:
>>well, I got the $189 coupons from AMEX.  They have my name written
>
>How does one get ahold of said coupons?  Apply for an AMEX card & get them as
>comp tickets?  or buy them from AMEX?
>
>Please post details.
>Thanks,
>-- 

they are offered with the card for full-time students.
for this year, i got 4 vouchers, one of which is for 2.
From: edw@sequent.com (Ed Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Watch out for COMAIR delta Partner <<>>>>BAD!
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:26:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr8.012616.10024
Organization: Orygun Society For HUman Rustabillity Assessment


Watch out for Comair
They are casual about schedules, and will horse you around.
If you don't have a connection after a comair leg, and no one is
WAITING and WAITING and WAITING to pick you up they might be OK.
I have asked my travel agent to route me around comair in all cases
Ed
-- 
                         Write in H. Ross Perot !
            Re-elect nobody ! Kick out all the incumbent bums !
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From: faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin)
Subject: Re: Airline food
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
	<1992Apr16.183341.19566@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:00:44 GMT

On 16 Apr 92 18:27:27 GMT, AXLEROD@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (Harvey Axlerod) said:
>      2. Not many Jews keep Kosher any more.  

This is a false statement.  All traditional/Orthodox Jews keep kosher, a large
majority of the Conservative Jews follow most kosher food laws, and an
increasing number of Reform Jews are following some form of the kosher food
laws. Those who are Jews in name only (e.g., non-observant) probably don't
keep kosher, but generalizations like this shouldn't be made.

Daniel
--
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[Email]:faigin@aerospace.aero.org              [Vmail]:310/336-5454 Box#13149
	  "You mean on top of everything else, this ship is rigged?"
	     King Ferdinand, of Spain to Columbus (Stan Freberg)
From: varri@korppi.cs.tut.fi (V{rri Alpo)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Flying and environment (was Re: Tell you something..)
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:35:48 GMT
Organization: Finnish University and Research Network FUNET

From article <1992Apr7.162523.12042@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, by mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas):
> In article <13849@star.cs.vu.nl> bert@cs.vu.nl (Menting BL) writes:
>>Hmm, anybody does know that travelling by air is very bad for the
>>environment (one flight is as bad as a whole year travel by car)
> 
> What's your source?  The by-products of jet fuel are much less harmful than
> those of internal-combustion engines...

Maybe he was talking about the energy consumption in general. I
remember seeing on TV or in a newspaper that when a family of four flies
for a holiday in the Canary Islands (from Finland around 4-5 hours), 
they use as much energy as what is needed to heat their house for one
year.

	Alpo Varri, Tampere, Finland

Standard disclaimers apply.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: bechtler@asdg.dec.com (Laurie Bechtler)
Subject: Re: More about BUMPS
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  8 APR 92 13:03:08    


In article <ru0upINNhfv@agate.berkeley.edu>, spanzer@enzyme.berkeley.edu (Scott Panzer) writes...
> 
>me the voucher and I read the fine print) about a significant difficulty
>with actually using the voucher:  Reservations for a trip using this
>voucher could only be made WITHIN TWENTY-FOUR HOURS of the desired flight!
>:(:(:(  Not very useful if you want to take a trip during a busy season!
> 

Yes, the 24-hour thing often true, but they are not restricting the 
number of seats as they are with low-fare deals.  At least that is what
I was told on Northwest.  So unless the flight is absolutely full it's
not a problem.  Same with freq-flyer deals, they will pretty much get
you on if the flight is not full.  That's why you can't make reservations
any earlier...they make it late enough that they're pretty sure that 
the flight won't fill up with paying passengers.  But they don't then 
restrict the free seats to only 3 or something, they go ahead and use
them up.  (According to one phone rep, who may or may not reflect
official policy.)

For those who want to travel on the absolutely peak occupancy days for
free (voucher or freq flyer), GOOD LUCK!  For general vacation purposes,
most flights aren't full.  If you're taking more than one trip a year, 
you're best off to buy your Christmas ticket well in advance to get the
times you want, and use your free deal for your other vacation.  Usually
your Christmas (Thanksgiving, spring break, whatever) schedule is so tight 
that not having the times you want is a big deal.

But then I value time over money, personally.  And yes, I was a grad
student, too, and used my share of vouchers!
From: AXLEROD@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (Harvey Axlerod)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Where are the BUMPS ??
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:41:31 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo


    When this newsgroup first started several weeks ago, I asked a simple
question as to WHERE the most likely bumps were on the USAir system. Since
then, this has spun off into discussions of:
     1. Where the USAir hubs are, as opposed to busy airports,
     2. Definition of a bump,
     3. How to negotiate bumps,
     4. How the airlines compare in their bump tickets, and
     5. In-flight bumps.
Good, I'm glad to have stimulated so much exchange. Now it seems fair to back
to my original question:
 
WHAT ARE THE BEST CITIES FOR BUMPS ON USAir FLIGHTS.
 
Thanks.
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From: bert@cs.vu.nl (Menting BL)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Tell you something..
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:54:53 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam

Hmm, anybody does know that travelling by air is very bad for the
environment (one flight is as bad as a whole year travel by car)
unless your a bird..

By the way I type U now..

			Bert
From: hemant@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hemant.b.bhatt)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: United discount
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:57:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


   I have $100 discount coupon for United Airline. I can get discount only
if I personally buy a ticket. I got this discount coupon when I had to travel
by United July 1991 for emergency matter in our family. I do not remember the
terms now, but I have to buy ticket and sign it at the counter. Does anyone
want to buy the coupon?
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: agharkar@cis.ohio-state.edu (Ashutosh Agharkar)
Subject: How is Gulf Air to Fly with?
Originator: agharkar@wogglebug.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:47:16 GMT

	Hi folks,

	I plan to travel to Bombay this june on Gulf Air. How is the service on
this airlines? The reason I ask is that I have heard conflicting reports - from
horror stories of lost baggage and interminable unscheduled stops to praise 
about their inflight service and efficiency!!

	Would anyone like to add to this info?
	thanx.

	-Ashutosh
From: dunbar@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Scott Dunbar)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:56:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: beagle.dunbar.702673016
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

I would have to say that another long flight is

Paris to Papeete on UTA/Air France
its 24,000 Kilometers Non Stop
Which translates to 14,880 miles i believe

wow long one

scott
 
Scott\      /\/\  /|email: dunbar@boulder.colorado.edu
  /***\  /\/*/**\/*|Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
 /  /\ \/**\/    \ |University of Colorado at Boulder, Boulder, CO  80309-0347
From: v128nkej@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Boggles the MIND)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Continental Airlines
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr7.044408.16043@cs.ucla.edu>, tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) writes...
>What's the current fiscal status of Continental?  Are they considered
>prime candidates for bankruptcy?
> 
>I ask because I just discovered that for a MKE->LAX roundtrip flight,
>booked 30 days in advance, Easy-Sabre quotes a fare of only $149.  The
>next lowest is $392, on NW, Delta, etc....Any idea why Continental is
>so low in comparison? 
> 
>thanks-
>  Tom
> 
>-- 
>Tom Johnson             "I put this moment.............................here
>tj@cs.ucla.edu           I put this moment......................here
>                         I put this moment--
>                                              Over here!"        (Kate)
	I've used Continental a few times  Buffalo-Lax for $118  as compared
to almost $250 elsewhere.  Cont. is very low frills- but I've never had a 
problem with them.  My trip is only 50 minutes so who cares about lunch
and who cares that I have to lug my luggage  a mile to the counter and 
a mile from the baggage cliam to the car-  it's clean and cheap and friendly,
but a little bit on the rough side.
	Great for college students or frequent flyers (salesmen etc.)

		Jim
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson)
Subject: Re: Eaasy-sabre access??
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 18:15:23 GMT

Easy-Sabre access is part of the basic services package on Genie.
-- 
Tom Johnson             "I put this moment.............................here
tj@cs.ucla.edu           I put this moment......................here
                         I put this moment--
                                              Over here!"        (Kate)
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From: sfg2483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Shachar Frank )
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:20:12 GMT

autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry) writes:

>In article <dunbar.702673016@beagle> dunbar@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Scott Dunbar) writes:
>>I would have to say that another long flight is
>>
>>Paris to Papeete on UTA/Air France
>>its 24,000 Kilometers Non Stop

It actually makes a stop in San Francisco...

>>Which translates to 14,880 miles i believe
>>
>>wow long one
>>
>>scott
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From: naftaly@supergas.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer)
Subject: Re: Continental Airlines
Reply-To: naftaly@dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:41:18 GMT


In article <7APR199209500748@venus.lerc.nasa.gov>, fssmith@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.044408.16043@cs.ucla.edu>, tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) writes...
>>What's the current fiscal status of Continental?  Are they considered
>>prime candidates for bankruptcy?
>> 
>>I ask because I just discovered that for a MKE->LAX roundtrip flight,
>>booked 30 days in advance, Easy-Sabre quotes a fare of only $149.  The
>
>What is Easy-Sabre?
>

Eaasy Sabare is the American Ailines reservation System. It can be accessed via
prodigy system.

--
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Internet: naftaly@dazixco.ingr.com                  6285 Lookout Road    
UUCP: ..uunet!ingr!dazixco!naftaly  	            Boulder, CO 80301
Please excuse my English
From: gs26@prism.gatech.EDU (Glenn R. Stone)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Mass Transit and airports (was: Re: O'HARE)
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:46:51 GMT
Reply-To: glenns@eas.gatech.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Group W Bench

In the referenced article rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:

>In article <122225@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:

>If BART were extended into Oakland Airport [...] I can imagine
>business fliers moving en masse from SFO to Oakland Airport.  Perhaps
>this is why this obvious extension hasn't happened already?

[about Boston:]
>Hah!  Has to be the world's least convenient system.  You end up MILES from
>the terminals, [....]

> ... The trip [on a mythical South Station rail] would take
>less than 5 minutes from the center of the financial district to the airport,
>would eliminate probably 50% of the trips through the harbor tunnel and
>utterly destroy the taxi business in Boston, which is why it will never happen
>and why they are building a new car tunnel to the airport instead.

You'd be surprised at the number of suits who won't take mass transit, 
but insist on their very own limo/taxi/rental car/whatnot.... even if
it would save them an order of magnitude in ground transport costs. 
Fr'example, the downtown hotels here in Atlanta cost $1 to get to by 
rail, $13 by cab or limo, and rental cars go for $26 or so.  Yet the
parking decks downtown are still well occupied, the taxis get business,
and most of the folk I see when I go to the airport on MARTA are obviously
discount coach fares.  Very few suits among'em.  

Boston I really don't understand, though.  Everbody I've ever spoken to 
concerning Boston says that you park in the 'burbs and take the T into
town.  Is it just the suit mentality in action again, running all those
cars out of the airport?  

-- Glenn R. Stone (glenns@eas.gatech.edu)
From: ae02022
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: O'HARE
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:49:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: vx.15APR199211495987
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <STEINAR.92Apr14182555@faust.solan.unit.no>, steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf) writes...
> 
>2. The elevator system in the terminal we came in through (international
>terminal on SAS) was, well, from hell.  It was difficult to figure out
>which floor we were on, and which floor we wanted.
> 
>-Cindy Kandolf
> cindy@solan.unit.no
> Trondheim, Norway

I can only agree! It seems like once you are in the elevator you are
in "no-man's-land"!

Peter
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy)
Subject: Re: Long Flights. 
Organization: None, and I like it like that
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:56:29 GMT

Having done the Sydney to LAX and vice versa a fair number of times, I'd
like to interject that the time of this flight varies considerably. No
matter what the listed times is, it can be longer or shorter depending
on wind and weather. While this is always true with air travel when you
have a trip this long, the differences can mount up. I have flown it
when it was 12 hours and when it was 14. And sometimes we have arrived
as much as 45 minutes *early* which is kinda unheard of in my US
and European travel experience.

But I think Qantas has this long distance thing down to a science, and
my only complaints have been abaout my fellow travellers, not the
airline.

Carol Denehy
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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: More about BUMPS
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:04:45 GMT

In article <JPY.92Apr13153340@mendelssohn.cs.columbia.edu> jpy@mendelssohn.cs.columbia.edu (John P Yu) writes:
>
>   I believe Continental occupies Terminal C at Newark.
>

They do now.  They didn't when they first merged with People Express---
Terminal C was just a shell back then.

RNA