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From: allenmk@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Allen Melinda Kay)
Subject: International Circle
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:19:26 GMT

This note is intended for any Iranians living in or near Boulder, Colorado who
are interested in meeting not only other internationals in Boulder, but also
in developing friendships with Americans.  There is a meeting called
"International Circle" every Friday evening in Boulder.  We meet early to talk
one-on-one, getting to know each other and giving internationals who need it a
chance to practice English.  Then we have dinner together, and finally a
presentation or Bible study of some sort--you do not have to stay for this part
of the evening if you do not wish to. 

If you are interested in this group, contact me for more information.

Melinda K. Allen
-- 
Melinda K. Allen                  The LORD is close to the brokenhearted 
allenmk@ucsu.colorado.edu       and saves those who are crushed in spirit.   
allenmk@tramp.colorado.edu			               Psalm 34:18 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Organization: VezArateh Farhango-Honar 
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:29:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.201242.1347@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>
>morgh e bAgh e malakootam, ni'yam az Alam e khAk
>                        chand roozeest ghafasi sAkhteh and az badanam
>
>mim bedeh
>

Music to hear, why hear'st thou music sadly?
Sweets with sweets war not, joy delight in joy:
Why lov'st thou that which thou receiv'st not gladly,
Or else receiv'st with pleasure thine annoy?
If the true concord of well-tuned sounds,
By unions married, do offend thine ear,
They do but sweetly chide thee.

		William Shakespeare, Sonnets, 25/8

yeh bedeh. :-)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 05:07:31 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry

In article <kupbflINNa7d@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
>
>yek so'aal baraaye shaa'eraan khebre va ashkhaasee ke tab'e she'r daaran...
>
>in grade school i remember we had calligraphy lessons and our teacher
>used to give us a poem to write which started like this:
>
>doosh dar halgheye maa ghesseye geesooye to bood  
>			 daam daaraam raam deem daaraam raam daaree raam	
>
>can anyone help me with the second beyt?   if you cant, take your
>best shot anyway... noke zabooname... (hey, there's a challenging idea!  
>lets provide first or second beyts, and have SCI shaa'ers complete them!).
>
>many thanks...


doost dar halgheye maa ghesseye geesooye to bood
                    meghnatise to ghavi boodo, ghotb nama sooye to bood 

(c) Copyright Bandeh Tonban pulications.


Payandeh Baad Iran
Alireza
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: IRANIAN REVOLUTION DATE!
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:24:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr16.193109.8948@cco.caltech.edu> bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi) writes:
>
>By the way, Ramin himself didn't even claim that Iran's government had anything
>to do with the (dubious) event he described.  But that doesn't change anything
>either.

In case you might have missed it , I posted an article to correct the
date .  

Y E S , in fact that horrible event happened right after 22 Bahman (
the Year of famous revolution in Iran , Be it 1977 0r 1979 ) ...

And I balme those who did it ... Although we didn't have a govn't that
time, if you remember we had a DOOLATEH MOVAGHAT ... No I do not blame
Current Iran's govn't ; but I do blame Islam , be it the true islam or
the fony one . 

Also a few people asked me to post the detailed story . But I pretty
much put down what I remembered  ....  we got there after the clash
and we just witnessed the horrible scene while we smelled death in the air . 
for those who are from shiraz , and might not remember or wasn't there
at that time , the bhaies neighborhood was very close to Saadi's grave
( The poet from shiraz ) ..... Remember where you used to get the
famouse Ice Cream and Faloodeh .... Yes it is still famouse and many
people still go there and they don't even remember the crime ( or maybe
they don't want to remember ) ....  Cus Us Iranians forget a lot of
things very soon .... 

To be continued ......
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hooshyar@scrp.Stanford.EDU (Hooshyar)
Subject: Re: Reply to  Bahaies  gang
Reply-To: hooshyar@scrp.stanford.edu (Hooshyar)
Organization: Stanford Cardiac Rehab Program
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 08:48:05 GMT

seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>In article <TOWFIQ.92Apr6092129@babyoil.FTP.COM> towfiq@FTP.COM writes:
>
>>would recommend that one look at a Baha'i source on the Baha'i Faith
>>as well.  One such recently published work is by William S. Hatcher
>>and J. Douglas Martin, called "The Baha'i Faith: The Emerging Global
>>Religion".  Also, the Encyclopedia Brittanica has a well-written
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^
>>introductory article on the Baha'i Faith.
>>--
>
>Dear Mark, isn't it better that we learn OUR believes from OURselves and not
>from BRITTANICA ? I bet british people know believes about Baha and Bab, 
>much better than you do.
>
>Seyyed.

Agha seyyed, that's what the book "The Baha'i Faith: The Emerging Global
Religion" is all about:  it's OUR beliefs from OURselves.  The Encyclopedia  
Brittanica would probably have articles about other religions too.  Don't be
so paranoid; it's not worth it.

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
hooshyar@scrp.stanford.edu
(415) 324-1055

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@tortuga.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Rafsanjani's group took over the majlis
Reply-To: zamie@tortuga.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:13:08 GMT

The election in Iran was ended with the victory of Rafsanjani's group. 
Apparently, they have got 29 out of 30 seats and Rafsanjani was nominated for
the president of the Iranian soil.  Rafsanjani is hoping to rebuild the
country by privatize the public sector as well as promote other government to
invest in Iran and hoping to bring back the educated Iranian in exile.  The
economy is still extremely unstable, but he is hoping with the power he has
now can build up the economy of the country.
From: cheragh@alborz.mips.com (Mash Cheragh_Ali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Az Div o Dad Maloolam
Date: 8 Apr 1992 22:38:36 GMT
Organization: The Light House
Distribution: world
Reply-To: cheragh@alborz.mips.com (Mash Cheragh-Ali)
NNTP-Posting-Host: alborz.mips.com

In article <1992Apr8.105650.1059@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>,
minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
> In article <CMM.0.90.2.702657546.kambizm@svarte.ifi.uio.no>,
kambizm@ifi.uio.no (Mobarekeh Kambiz Iranpour) writes:
> > Di Sheikh ba cheragh hami gasht dor shahr 
> >                        Az div o dad mallolam o ensanam arezoost
> > 
> > This board has become " meydan yeke taze" ultra nationalsts and rude
> > fundamentalists. I here by plead normal people to come out of their
holes and
> > contribute with their intelligence and some originality. If nothing is done
> > soon we will have a Islamic.soc instead of our board.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> >                                                 Kambiz
> 
> Could you please explain what you mean? Isn't Islam a part of the culture of 
> Iran? Or is it that whenever Islam is being talked about the only thing you 
> want to hear is voices disgreeing or attacking it, never mind whether they 
> know anything about it or not? You know the way others say if one
doesn't like
> an article just type "n", why don't you do the same thing as well?
> 
> zafar

I wish I could say that Islam isn't part of Iran's culture.  However, that's 
not an easy claim to make.  So let's say that Islam is there.  That still does
not justify posting every Islamic article to SCI.  And don't try to use the
"ctrl/n" excuse.  While ctrl/n is a solution, common sense is by far the most
effective solution!

MCA 

P.S. How about if we balance it out.  For every WATERY Islamic article that 
     you find/discover/extract from soc.this soc.that for us, we can dig out 
     some DIRT from alt.atheism for you.  We can go MUD wrestling then :-)

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From: afghahi@news.cs.odu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: "beggAneh parast"
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:53:25 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University Dept. of CS, Norfolk VA
Originator: afghahi@buttercup.cs.odu.edu


"Dorood bar shoma"
Recently a "beggAneh parast" had complained about iranians not considering
sadam and his bodies as their brothers. I have no idea where these "beggAneh 
parasthA"'s family members have been , but I know for sure that the rest of
us are of no relation with sadam and his bodies. It should be added that 
being a "begAneh parast" is much worst than being a "khodforosh". A "khod
forosh" puts him/herself for "forosh". However, a "begAneh parast" puts not
only him/herself ,but also his country and people for sale(if he/she get the
chance).
"khodA negahdAr"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: baze@milton.u.washington.edu (Behzad)
Subject: Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 07:18:42 GMT

In article <saied.702781835@odin> saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>baze@milton.u.washington.edu (Behzad) writes:
>[insult and accusations deleted]
>
>>  Mojahedeen..  grow up and get a brain for a change.
>
>Behzad, lets suppose that the Mojahedin have no brain.
>
>You have a brain. What have you done for the suffering of your
>people? You have heard of mass killings in Iran. You have heard of
>torture in Iran. You have heard of increasing unemployment,
>corruption, suicide, theft, ... in Iran. What have you done for it?
>
>You know that the Khomeini regime has been condmend for its
>violation of basic human rights by the UN General Assembly, the
>UN Commission on Human Rights, the AI, ... What have you done for
>those whose rights have been violated? You know what has happened
>to Iranian women, to Iran's culture, to Iran's image all under
>the evil Khomeini regime. Did you write a letter condemning
>these? Did you contribute some of your money to the families of
>Khomeini's victims?
>
>Did you ever try to fight this regime? Can you imagineihow 
>difficult it might be?
>

 Behzad:  
   BAZE@U.WASHINGTON.EDU   
 "Ever try, ever fail.  Never mind.  Try harder, fail better!" --Sam Beckett
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 05:30:16 GMT



According to the Mojahedin, the terrorist
Khomeini regime attacked one of the NLA bases
this morning. One NLA combatant was martyred.
Some buildings and military equipment were
damaged. One of the attacking planes was
downed and the pilot and co-pilot captured.

The supporters of the Iranian resistance
in New York, Ottawa, and 16 other European
countries have attacked the terrorist nests
of the regime, setting the place afire, or
destroying regime's belongings.

A demonstration is planned for Tuesday.

The Leader of the Iranian Resistance has
sent telegrams to the UN Sec. General, 
members of the UN Security Council, and 
other UN bodies, condmening the attack.

More details later.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not : -)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:32:27 GMT

derek@locus.com (Dariush Keyani-Yazdi) writes:

>zolf Ashofteh-o, khoy kardeh-o, khandAn lab-o, mast
>			 pirhan chAk-o, ghazal khAn-o, sorAhy[*] dar dast
>nargesash arbadeh jooy-o, labash afsoos konAn
>			 nim-shab, mast beh bAlin man Amad, beneshast
>sar farA goosh-e man Avard-o beh AvAy-e hazin[**]
>			 goft ey Ashegh-e shooridey-e man khAbat hast?

>								"Hafez"
>[*] sorAhy = jAm-e sharAb
>[**] hazin = gham-gin

>hAlA te bedeh...

	tA az to jodA shodeh ast Aghoosh marA
			az geryeh kasee nadeedeh khAmoosh marA
	dar jAn -o- del -o- deedeh farAmoosh nahay
			az bahr-e khodA makon farAmoosh marA

							"MowlAnA"

Time for an "alef"

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: The Flower of Cow's Tongue !!??
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:56:55 GMT


Hi,

Last night I was at a friend's house and her stomach wasn't feeling
too well. She said the cure is "gol-gAv-zaboon" (flower of cow's
tongue :-) or something like it. So she "damm"ed (brewed ?) some
"gol-gAv-zaboon" and we each drank some. It tasted good I thought, but
none of us had the slightest idea what it's made of, or even if we had
the name right. Could some kind soul (except the cow itself, since he
can't see what's growing on his tongue :-) shed some light on this
flowery matter?

    Thanks,
    --mack

P.S.
amoo joon, does "ghahve khoone ye mash yadollAh" serve "gol-gAv-zaboon"?
Organization: Old Dominion University Computer Services
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 00:10:01 EDT
From: FARID <FHM100F@ODUVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject:    Re: Arash on Azerbaijan

Dear Arash:

Are you characterizing Azerbaijani as a dialect? Dialect of what language?
Is this supposed to make it less important? Why do you have to mention that you
have 2 Azeri friends and a half Kurdish one? To make yourself a credible person
before these two groups? What was the need for lecturing me on Iranian history?
To prove that the Turkish rulers of Iran didn't pay attention to Azeri language
? I never approved of the past Iranian rulers' conduct of government. I think
you just want to put down my language by calling it a dialect and side track
the the following issue that we Azerbaijanis have a right to have our language
taught in schools in Azerbaijan. Just like you have your Farsi language taught
to your children. Are you a better Iranian than an Azerbaijani? This is a very
basic right. I hope you can comprehend this because whether you do or not we
will see to it that it happens.    ...Farid

P.S. Learn some Azerbaijani from your friends it is good for your soul. It will
     give you a better view of things. Maybe then you will not take our learnin
     -g of Farsi forgranted!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: arash@sunee.waterloo.edu (Arash Jahangir)
Subject: Re: PROMINENT IRANIAN BAHA'I EXECUTED
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:22:16 GMT


Sorry about the blank post.  Everyday I learn something new about Unix.
This is in response to the Zafar's two posts re. Killing converts and etc.

Thank you Zafar for very informing material.  However, as you had pointed out
in your postings, you have read far too many hadith and so on that approve of
killing converts.  My first question is to our other knowledgeable Muslims:
DO YOU THINK THAT SOMEONE WHO CONVERTS FROM ISLAM OR SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES IN
A RELIGION AFTER ISLAM CAN BE KILLED BY OTHER MUSLIMS IF THE CONVERT HAS NOT
RAISED ARMS ON MUSLIMS?

My second question is to everyone.  From any practical point of view, one 
cannot separate Islam from Muslim.  I'd go as far as saying that Islam is 
whatever that has been consistently practiced by its fallowers or has been
traditionally taught by the religious leaders.  I understand that this is a
rather reverse way of looking at the matter.  After all it is the Muslims 
who should be following the teachings of Islam.  But I am only looking at
this from a pragmatic point of view.  The question is WHAT ARE WE TO DO WITH
THE ISLAM THAT HAS LITTLE TOLERANCE FOR OTHERS?  Personally, when I see what
is done to my country in the name of Islam, I can't help but to wonder if we
all would have been better off if there had never been an Islam to begin with.
(*you realize I am giving lots of credit to Zafar for his posting.  I am not 
still fully convinced that Islam is as gentle as Zafar claims.  But in absense
of opposing evidence, I am willing to accept his view*).


Regards,
 Arash

*****************************************************************************

If you want to destroy something, do not attack it.  Rather defend it badly.
							Dr. Ali Shari'aty

I maintain that the current regime in Iran has done an astonishingly good job
in "badly" defending Iran and Islam.

*****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: The Lies of Mr Taqwaa and Arash.....
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:43:47 GMT

>for US. Remember all the bull shit your leaders were preaching about this
>war being another vietnam. You are full of shit, Your Saddam starts all
>the wars and once started cries for peace!

>Bunch of Bull! What is your source : Saddam's mouthpiece propaganda radio

>You asshole racist! 

>	saddam.and.its.asshole.racist.friends

>This looks like the same one I forwarded to: A.Jaber.anus


Please keep your language under control!  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mlahsaie@supernet.dallas.haus.com (Mithra Lahsaie)
Subject: Re: Rapping With Asghar AghA (PART ONE)
Organization: Harris Adacom Corporation
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:25:13 GMT

aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:

>In a recent visit with Asghar AghA, he seemed to have decided to
>enter the world of politics, especially the "vatani" kind. He was
>expressing his keen interest in "vezArat and vekAlat".

I can't wait for the rest of the interesting "mAjarAhAye Ashghar AghA".  

Since this is the election year in many countries, why don't we have an election
of our own (by "we" I mean all SCI members or as amoojoon puts it "ahAleeye 
SCI")?

So, vote Asghar AghA for the office of "vezArat and vekAlat".  He has a lot of
experience in this field since he's been "vakileh har ghAyeb" for a long time!
(Of course, this is bA ejAzeye Shamsy khanoom joon :-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: U.S. approves sale of aircraft components to Iran
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:49:19 GMT


	WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The administration approved the sale to Iran of
jet engines and aircraft components for two A-300 Airbuses being built
in France by a European consortium, the State Department said Wednesday.
	A nation that purchases certain U.S. products must obtain
administration permission prior to their re-export. The administration
advised the Commerce Department, which monitors such transactions, to
approve the sale of two jet engines and other U.S.-built components used
in the A-300s.
	``The State Department has recommended that the Commerce Department
approve the re-export sale to Iran of U.S. engines and other U.S.-
controlled components for two Airbus A-300 planes,'' said spokeswoman
Margaret Tutwiler. ``This decision was made within the case-by-case
discretion allowed by our regulations when U.S.-controlled components
are between 10 percent and 20 percent, by value, of a foreign-
manufactured item.''
	Tutwiler said the export controls over sales to Iran remain in effect
until Tehran stops supporting terrorism.
	During the past two years, she said, the administration has approved
sales to Iran of commercial aircraft manufactured in Britian and the
Netherlands. Those planes also included U.S. components, she said.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: amehdi@src.honeywell.com (Hossien Amehdi)
Subject: Re: The Lies of Mr Taqwaa and Arash.....
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:11:30 GMT

In article <2537@keele.keele.ac.uk> phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber) writes:
>
>
>	of you, if Saddam is bad for his people they will remove him
>	not USA+34 more countries a part from Iranian infiltrators.
>

Congratulations to stupid Saddam and his supporters like to you, for
him to be stupid enough to challenge this many countries as you put
it (34) and got to war with them. Also, congrautlations for being on
the losing side of the most large scale one-sided war (also the
shortest 42 days!) in the human history. even, Panama was more difficult
for US. Remember all the bull shit your leaders were preaching about this
war being another vietnam. You are full of shit, Your Saddam starts all
the wars and once started cries for peace!

>
>	And for the sake of your own Shias in Iraq tell them how you the
>	Khomeinists are helping to kill their Azeri Shia brothers in
>	Azebijan.
>

Bunch of Bull! What is your source : Saddam's mouthpiece propaganda radio
, so called Iraq's news agency which also claimed that Iraq won both
of its latest wars!


>
>	You mean you are one of the Murtazaqa (mercenaries)who were 
>	kicked from Iraq. The Arabs will be much better off with out 
>	you.

You asshole racist! 

Try posting your racist articles to:

	saddam.and.its.asshole.racist.friends


>
>
> 			 ooooooo\
>                         oooooooo\
>              ____________________\________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|         		       __    |  |  |       \ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|   |  .   |____!______!__!__!_____|___|  |  |        \
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|   |______| . .                          |  |        /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|____________________________________________|_______/
>			          /
>			  ooooooo/
>	                  oooooo/
>	
>

This looks like the same one I forwarded to: A.Jaber.anus
only about happier after spending a few days over there. 
Watch out here it comes back again! (to e-mailabove)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb)
Subject: Re: IRANIAN REVOLUTION DATE!
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organizatoin
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:16:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.164918.27882@src.honeywell.com> amehdi@src.honeywell.com (Hossien Amehdi) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.234108.14965@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
>>
>>I remember after the revolution back in 1977 in Iran the most brutal and
>...
>stuff deleted

>Was the another revolution in 1977 in Iran that I am not aware of?!!!
Yup! EnghelAbeh Sefid!!!! Remember we had to memorize the original 12 "asl"
in school and then 12 "asl" became some 17 or 18 asls. EnghelAbeh sefideh ShAho
mellat. HEY! I ain't that mellat man !! :-)

Asghar AghA