HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: discar@nosc.mil (Joe Discar)
Subject: Re: 486 vs. 386
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:28:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.200839.27999@exu.ericsson.se> exuhag@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>Derek Schott writes:
>>
>>After watching the market trend, I have the funniest feeling that
>>everything has about hit rock bottom. A lot of people keep saying 
>>that the introduction of the i586 is going to severely cut the
>>prices of both the 386 and 486 machines. Although it might drop
>>the prices at first, I don't see why it is going to cut them so
>>much.
>
>Not to mention that very few people actually need a 586 (aka Pentium).
>How many people--excepting ray-tracing fanatics and people who do
>serious number crunching--have had any speed problems with a 33 MHz
>486?  For the mass-market, the Pentium is a solution waiting for
>a problem (like CD-I).  I can't see people scrambling to buy them,
>unless they are one of the rising number of buzzword addicts.
>
>--
>James Hague   
>exuhag@exu.ericsson.se


I have a prediction about what the i586 will do to the PC market.  You
see, I am an avid upgrader--having gone through ALL iterations of the
80x86, from 8088 to 486-66DX-2.  Yes, there has been an increase in
*speed*... but there is more to what a new CPU does to the industry.

Consider a three-tine fork: Speed, Software, and Interfaces.  When the
8088 was king, the XT bus was popular.  The 80286 didn't "kill" 8088
software (real-mode software was untouched)... but it introduced the 16-bit
bus.

The 80386 began to kill the 8088 software world.  Windows 3.1 is nailing
down the coffin.  It has also, but not quite, killed the XT Bus--and
made "16 bit" cards the defacto standard (if anything, just so that
interrupt lines could be doubled).  Speed-wise, the 486 is king--70
times faster than the 8088.

What hasn't changed?  The ISA bus is still predominant.  But the 486
will not change it.  Why?  Because until recently, nobody really *notices*
that there is a problem with the ISA bus.

But the 486 can access 4 Gigs of memory and supports virtual memory
(like the 386).  But NOW, memory is cheaper--32 megs of RAM in a PC is not
unheard of these days.

So what's the problem?  The ISA bus only addresses 24 bits--or roughly
16 megabytes.  If memory-mapped I/O is needed (such as in a 24 bit
NTSC video digitizer), it can only map the I/O at under 16 megs (this can
also affect some software when virtualizing RAM through a hard disk
controller).  In effect: it reincarnates the infamous 640K barrier at
16 megabytes!

The 586 is a new architecture, and I predict that it will introduce or
at least mandate a 32 bit (or 64 bit) bus.  This will, in essence,
"kill" the 386/486 as it exists now (until motherboards are made for
a wider bus).

All of the previous is my humble opinion.  But I have been beating my
head against the 16 meg barrier for almost two months now.

Change will happen.  By any means necessary.

-> joe <-



Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: godwin@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Godwin Yung)
Subject: TANDON Computer Product
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:56:32 GMT

  Does anyone know who support products from TANDON Computer Products??
Phone number or email address is approiated. Thanks in advanced.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
Subject: Looking for a 'day of week checker' batch program
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:22:11 GMT



     I need to track down a small program for use in batch files that
will check to see if it is a certain day of the week and call a 
program or batch file if so.
     For example, when the user comes into work in the morning and
boots up, a line in the autoexec would do something along the lines of

   "is_day tuesday tues.bat",
   
    so if today is tuesday it will call the batch file 'tues', otherwise
the line will be ignored.  

     Anyone know if a program such as this exists, or will I have to 
track down a compiler somewhere and roll my own?


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BIX: DRL  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: cldavi01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: IBM PC/AT - HPLaserjet III Problems
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:09:30 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


Need some assistance...
I have just purchased an HP Laserjet IIIP for use with my IBM compatible
(supposedly) PC/AT.  The problem is, try as I may, I cannot get a "screen
print" (by pressing shift-printscreen).  
	Actually, I do get a text screen print, but following the print pages
and pages of "escape" sequences are printed, with no apparent end (I turn
the printer off to stop it).  When I try to print screen with graphics on the
screen I get a page of excape characters, followed by another set of pages
and pages of escape characters.  I have remembered the GRAPHICS command,
prior to attempting to print screen.
	Some background info'.  My PC is actually an ITT XTRA Professional
Series (AT compatible), 10 MHz 286 (I think), with 1.4MB memory and a 40 MB
hard disk.  Prior to purchasing the HP laser jet IIIp I had an IBM proprinter
which did printscreens perfectly well.
	If anyone out there has any ideas, please reply directly to me, as I
am only an occasional NETNEWS reader.  Thanks.
From: dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Emulators
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:41:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b63519.student.cwru.edu

>>>What other computers can be emulated on the PC via software?
>>>
>>>Are there Apple ][ and Amiga emulators out there?

Trust me, you will _never_ see an Amiga emulator in software. Doing this 
would be equivilent to rewriting Windows or OS/2. :-)
+-------------+------------------+---------------------------------+
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: PC pursuit
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:08:29 GMT

In <1992Nov7.205159.20189@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jhh4889@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.H. Huebner) writes:

>At some point in the future I want to connect to the net from South
>Carolina.
>There are no convinient connections I know of in S.C. I have found a
>N.C. board that says it can be accessed by PC Pursuit. What IS PC
>pursuit? How much does it cost? Where do I sign up? Does distance make
>a difference or might  I just as well connect to Boston boards?

>Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

PC Pursuit is a service offered by GTE Sprint (SprintNet) that allows
you to buy blocks of non-prime usage for very low fees.  The outdial
points are anywhere there is a TymeNet node; cities that can be dialed
into are somewhat restricted (to about 15 or so, as I recall it).
Prices are by the month; $30 for 30 hours or $50 for 60 hours.
Distance doesn't matter, so long as where you are calling is local to
one of the 'Outdial Cities' (the 15 or so places you can connect
into).  Service is currently restricted to 2400 baud.  Usage during
prime time or over your allotted block of time will cost you extra on
a by the minute basis.

I don't have the number to call to sign up handy, but if you can't
find it send me mail and I'll see if I can dig it up at home.

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From: kbs@ccr-p6.ccr.jussieu.fr (SMUP7 Administrator)
Subject: Re: Emulators (Apple ][)
Organization: Laboratoire d'Electrochimie - Paris 7, FRANCE.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:00:30 GMT


>I FTPed it recently from a SIMTEL-20 mirror.  It seems to work, and comes with the (assembler) source code. There is also a Spectrum emulator and several CP/M emulators.

Where from? And what's the name of it?
Thanx,



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From: ozcomert@wam.umd.edu (John Ozcomert)
Subject: Gateway 2000 and Word for Windows 2.0b
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:34:15 GMT

Fellow netters:

Allow me to vent my frustration at Gateway 2000, and ask fellow Gateway   
owners to complain with me.

Okay.  When I bought my system, I chose Word for Windows as my software option.
Two months later, I heard from a friend that Microsoft was distributing
version 2.0b to correct bugs in version 2.0a, which I received from Gateway.
After talking with the folks at Microsoft, I learned I would have to get all
upgrades through Gateway.  (there are no registration numbers associated
with the disks and manuals I received)  No problem, thought I.  A call to
Gateway informed me that they expected version 2.0b in mid-October, and
that a call to their add-on section would get me an upgrade at that time.But 
this morning, I was told by the add-on section that GW would not be distributing
2.0b, and that 2.0a was still being shipped with new orders.
The bottom line is this:  although a good deal is apparent when one obtains
this program through GW 2000, you are something less than a full fledged
registered owner.  I am in the process of trying to get through on their
phone line to scream at someone, but needed to get this off my chest.
Thanks for listening.
-John
From: bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu (Bing Ho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Stacker 3.0!
Date: 12 Nov 1992 20:13:29 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu

I just read about upgrades for Stacker 3.0!  Is it available in the
stores right now and how much more is it compared to Stacker 2.0?

Can I buy Stacker 2.0 right now and get Stacker 3.0 free?

Please tell me more about it!
-- 
Bing Ho
bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu   University of California, Berkeley
From: umgyles0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gyles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Scanner or framegraber recommendations wanted.
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:30:57 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


Hello.  I am looking at buying a scanner or framegrabber in the near
future.  I am hoping to spend about $600 US.  I would appreciate
any information that anybody has about various products on the market.


I would like the scanner to be colour.  I would probabally prefer
having a framegrabber, however I suspect that the quality of the image
may be much less.  Please, if you own or know of a product that you
think might be of interest to me, E-Mail me.


Thanks  
Darren Gyles 
Winnipeg, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: te1002@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Martin Lukasek)
Subject: EMM386 ==> 92kB UMB ???
Organization: University of Wales, Bangor
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:09:40 GMT

Can anyone help me with EMM386. If I install it in CONFIG.SYS in line
device=c:\dos\emm386.exe noems
i get 92kB UMB free. I want only 64kB UMB ! How to do it ?

Thank for reply to te1002@sees.bangor.ac.uk
From: lonews@.abg (lonews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: FDFORMAT and 1.2-meg disks
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:57:34 GMT
Organization: PSI Boschweg 6 8750 Aschaffenburg

sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:

[deleted]
>However, the formatting process freezes early on whenever you try to
>put more than the usual 15 sectors per track on a disk.  (Yes, I am
>using real high-density disks.)
[deleted]
>It freezes on track 79, head 1...it keeps trying to format and never
>tries to verify and move on to the next (previous) track.  Anybody
>have a clue as to why this happens?

Did you load the FDREAD-TSR from the FDFORMAT-Package ??

Do a RTFM on the table in the manual for which format-types
this TSR is needed.

-jk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: morey@perdita.etdesg.trw.com (Mitch Morey R12/2623 x25167)
Subject: HELP - PC configuration
Originator: morey@
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:59:27 GMT

To Whomever can help me:

I have an EVEREX 386/33 running MSdos 5.0 containing:

	4 MEG RAM
	4.5 MEG cache
	1.2 G HD
	1 floppy drive
	a 3COM (3C505) ethernet board with PCNFS s/w
	and a plain VGA monitor with Video 7 board
	also have 386MAX at hand if needed

I'm hooked to the internet network but am having problems with my computer.
My computer used to be at DOS3.3 but I upgraded to use this fancy NEW! FTP
software (FTP22) that I could unload when I wasn't using it.  Needless to say
the software can't talk thru this board as it stands, and the tech says my
board (which I hardly used) is bad!

I don't plan to downgrade to DOS3.3 again but would like to know how to
effectively set up my config.sys and autoexec.bat files.  Any suggestions
would be helpful.

Also, my board is set up:  interrupt 10, 300, DMA 7 and I would like to keep
it this way.

I can be reached at uunet!donald.etdesg.TRW.COM!morey@uunet.UU.NET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: rgaudre@triton.unm.edu (Ron Gaudreau)
Subject: Re: 486 vs. 386
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:37:19 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: prices

In article <BxFu2E.AIt@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal) writes:
>
>A few months after AMD gets its 486 clones to the market, 386's will become
>a dead market, like 286's today.  Low-power 486 chips will be out, and 486SX
>chips and others less-powerful 486 chips will be priced so low as to make
>buying or even selling a 386 pointless.
>
Look for the low powered 486SLC to come out around the beginning fo the year.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer
From: sasbge@unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
Subject: PC UPS software recommendations needed
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:52:19 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Keywords: UPS,battery,tripplite,APC

I need recommendations for any available software programs/packages that
monitor the output from small UPS boxes similiar to the APC BACK600 UPS.
The program would need to perform some predefined steps when the UPS
batterys were first used and/or about to fail.  

Another related question:  Is it conceivable that a program designed to
sequence down a PC (on signal from the UPS) could run on the same machine
that it is designed to shut off?

POST or Email back to the address below, thanks.

Gantt

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From: Sheldon.Sawatzky@f886.n2000.z12.misgate.gmi.org (Sheldon Sawatzky)
Sender: uucp@misgate.gmi.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Fails To Spin Up
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 19:51:00 -0700

WT>my western digital 43 meg drive fails
WT>to spin up at times; i have to reset
WT>several times and then it will work fine

WT>does anyone have any info if this can be
WT>fixed?
WT>it's only a year old.......

I also have a Western Digital 43 mb hard drive that acts the same way.
Normally a warm boot will get it going, but once I had to power down and
reboot for it to start up.  The drive also squeaks when powering up and
some when powering down.  I'm sorry I don't have any info on correcting
the problem, but would be happy to hear from anyone who does.  I've used
my drive for three years.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch!

 * Origin: Taiwan Missionary BBS (12:2000/886.0)
From: ng4@husc10.harvard.edu (Ho Leung Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: math/science editing
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:27:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.ng4.721027644


   Hi.  I am looking for a pd or cheap shareware program that will allow
me to edit math/science expressions.  Recommendations for inexpensive
commercial programs are also welcome!  Thank you.

Ho Leung Ng
From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Macafee
Keywords: Virus
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:01:07 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta


>In article 2363 (7 more) in comp.sys.ibm.pc:
>dennistn@coral.bucknell.edu (Jim Denniston) writes:

>McAfee's scan and cleanup can be obtained directly through
>McAfee.  Just FTP mcafee.com Nice and easy huh?

OK, I tried connecting to mcafee.com, ftp.mcafee.com, and
mcafee@netcom.com to no avail. How about posting the EXACT
Internet addresss and the EXACT location of the files at that
address?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Emulators
X-To: ALEX STIVALA
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 14:35:00 GMT

From alex@coombs.anu.edu.au (Alex Stivala)
>I FTPed it recently from a SIMTEL-20 mirror.  It seems to work, and comes with
>he (assembler) source code. There is also a Spectrum emulator and several CP/M
>mulators.

    Really?  That's good.  I'll keep that in mind, since I have some old
Apple stuff I'd like to run. (Conan!)

                                                  Andrew

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: erik@maui.til.com (Erik Horstkotte)
Subject: Re: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Keywords: caching disc controllers
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:07:06 GMT

In article <dpn2.65.721007601@po.CWRU.Edu>, dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil) writes:
|> In article <Bx9ME2.H40@voder.nsc.com> pad@galaxy.nsc.com (Paul Denny x8349) writes:
|> >As a starter I note that caching disc controllers
|> >are supposed to increase the speed of disc intensive
|> >applications but a salesman I spoke to 8^) claimed
|> >that these are flakey designs as a single bad bit
|> >can propogate through your data and corrupt it. He
|> >suggested additional system RAM and partition it
|> >in DOS to have a large cache area. Can anyone verify
|> >or debunk this and provide an explanation?
|> 
|> I do not have the good fortune to own a caching disk controller, but I have 
|> heard only good things about them. Perhaps the RAM would cost more than the 
|> controller, giving the salesman more profits? :-)

Hum.  A single bad bit can propagate through a main-memory cache
too.  I think he's just plain wrong.

He *may* have been thinking about the fact that some caching disk
controllers do delayed writes - that is, they don't actually write
the data to the disk when your CPU does a disk write, they hold the
modified data in the cache until they *have* to write it (for
whatever reason).  This is the way the Unix operating system caches
the disk, and it's *much* faster than the traditional DOS-style 
write-through cache, where writes always go immediately to the disk.

The downside of this is that if you lose power before the data gets
written to the disk, it's *gone*.  Most of these caching controllers
allow you to switch between delayed-write and write-through modes.
In fact, as I recall, the new version of SMARTDRV.EXE that is
supplied with Windows 3.1 knows how to do both modes.
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From: James.Porter@mechanic.Fidonet.org (James Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Mars & Magellan Images
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 17:02:30 PDT
Organization: Mechanic: The Usenet<->Fidonet Gateway oF St. Pete Florida

RB>                         ==========================
RB>                           MARS & MAGELLAN IMAGES
RB>                             October 19, 1992
RB>                         ==========================

RB>        ftp:      ames.arc.nasa.gov (128.102.18.3)
RB>        user:     anonymous
RB>        cd:       pub/SPACE/GIF
RB>        files:    mars1.gif
RB>                  mars2.gif

RB>        cd:       pub/SPACE/JPEG
RB>        files:    mars1.jpg
RB>                  mars2.jpg


How does one go about getting these files from a via Usenet or Fidonet?

Lauren (i had to ask as I dont know)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Bio Setup on old IBM PC XT
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:07:22 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <40920@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ma90fau@imath1.ucsd.edu (ma90fau) writes:
>Hi, is there a bio setup program for IBM PC XT?  If yes, what key
>combination should I use to activate it?
>Also, is it possible to fit a 286 motherboard into the IBM case?

The IBM XT had no ROM setup program.
All configuration is done via DIP switches on the motherboard.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: WALDER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Walder Matthias)
Subject: INFO NEEDED: what time-schedule programs are ok?
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:17:53 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Dear fellows,

we want to buy some program which will help us with our
schedule-management. Do you know a good one? We want to
plan some dates in weekly and monthly steps.

Thanks for advice... Greetings from Germany... Matthias


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: pad@galaxy.nsc.com (Paul Denny x8349)
Subject: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Keywords: caching disc controllers
Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:56:26 GMT

I am looking into assembling a 486 machine and my
research so far has raised a few questions which I
was hoping may be resolvable through the net.

As a starter I note that caching disc controllers
are supposed to increase the speed of disc intensive
applications but a salesman I spoke to 8^) claimed
that these are flakey designs as a single bad bit
can propogate through your data and corrupt it. He
suggested additional system RAM and partition it
in DOS to have a large cache area. Can anyone verify
or debunk this and provide an explanation?

Many thanks - Paul