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From: mkoch@amisys.UUCP (Mike Koch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Another Genie Fix for PPage 3.0
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:33:20 GMT
Organization: AMiSYS Consulting

In article <11283@mindlink.bc.ca> Greg_Dawson@mindlink.bc.ca (Greg Dawson) writes:
>A fix for genies MakeBarChart_Vert and MakeBarChart_Horz in PPage
>3.0:
>
>The MakeBarChart_Horz and MakeBarChart_Vert Genies call for the
>font (CG)CGTimes at around line 101 of each script. This font is
>actually called (CG)Times so the line should be changed from:
>
>call ppm_SetFont('(CG)CGTimes')
>
>To:
>
>call ppm_SetFont('(CG)Times')
>
>
>Once I made the above change these genies worked fine for me. In
>fact, except for the stupid mistake noted above these genies are
>very impressive.

Yes, they are, as are a few of the others.  As for the AutoSave genie, I've
finally managed to get that one working.  Actually, two ARexx scripts are used
to implement the autosave function - AutoSave.pprx and PPageAutoSave.rexx.
The former puts up the interval/backup requester, then launches the latter.
I found a number of logic errors in the latter.  They must not have tested it
too much, because it couldn't possibly work on a regular basis.  I think it
may have worked OK if you were working on a new (not yet saved) document, but
it would consistently die with an arithmetic conversion error when used while
working on an old document.  I made the necessary changes and tested it out a
few times, and it seems to work OK.  I think I have to make one or two little
changes to the AutoSave.pprx script yet, but for the most part it's fine.

If anyone wants the revised scripts, send me email.

--
    ... Mike

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From: dooley@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Kevin Dooley)
Subject: Gnuplot ... bugs or OS incompatibility?
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:53:34 GMT

I have found two bugs so far with the gnuplot version 3.0 patchlevel 1
which I ftp'ed from ab20.
  - shell escapes cause gurus
  - any plot from a file whose data is everywhere between 0 and 1 (or 0 and -1)
    causes gnuplot to hang.  Note that even when I plotted a file which had
    larger limits, then rescaled the yrange to, say [1e-10:1e-2], it still hung.

The former problem is almost certainly because of the 2.0 library call System()
which is not available in 1.3 (which I am running).  The latter seems to be
some sort of integer arithmetic problem (just a guess), because I can think of
nothing else which would cause such a problem.  By way of comparison, the
identical data set plotted fine on an HP9000 supposedly running the same version
of gnuplot.  Furthermore, the Amiga version hangs regardless of choice of 
terminal type, so it is unlikely a problem with the amiga.trm part of the code.
The documentation provided with this release says nothing about running only
under certain versions of AmigaDos, but it seems to be only marginal under 1.3.
Has anybody running version 2.0 or later encoutered these problems?  Some
day in the near future I will have to grab the source and recompile it on my
machine to see if the problems go away.
		Kevin
From: soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Converting fonts for use with Proffesional Page
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:17:21 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>I am looking for a program or a package of programs that will convert a
>Postscript font (Ie a font defined in the postscript Language) to something
>useable by Proffesional page. Thanks muchly.

I understand that Pro Page version 3.0 has a utility to do this.

[What am I doing?]

 
Kevin Davidson, Asst. Moderator AmigaZone Vendor Support - PORTAL
               <soft-logik@cup.portal.com>
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From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala)
Subject: Re: Info on .info Magazine
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 12:40:52 GMT

In article <tdenbo.702830301@guru> tdenbo@dwp.la.ca.us (Tom Denbo) writes:
>I've been having no luck calling info magazine.  I'm 'running out of info'
>and I'd like to renew.  The number I have is (319) 338-0703.  Has that
>changed?
>--
>       //     Tom Denbo                   111 No. Hope St.  Rm 732
>      //      PD&C Workstation Support    Dept. of Water and Power
>    \X/       (213) 481-3376              Los Angeles,  CA   90051   
>===================== INTERNET: tdenbo@dwp.la.ca.us  =====================


  I think you should e-mail them to find out what is going on.
  I don't want to spread any rumors, but rather think you should
  find out from them.

  Their e-mail address is info@cup.portal.com
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From: koren@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Nameless pipes ( I mean |)
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:38:12 GMT
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.

ewilts@mr.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts) writes:

> WShell is commercial.  I'm surprised that SKSh would need a hard disk, though. 
> WShell is rather compact and would easily fit on a floppy.

The sksh binary is only 70 kilobytes.  However, the sksh *environment*
is far larger, since it includes lots of extra Unix commands, a
bunch of scripts, and scads of online documentation and manpages.
Although it is designed to be run from a HD system and will work
best that way, there are people who use it just fine from floppies.

    - steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart)
Subject: Re: ProWrite 3.2 crashing on exit !
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:18:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.112046.28094@hemel.bull.co.uk> igreenaw@hemel.bull.co.uk (ian greenaway) writes:
> sdl@linus.mitre.org (Steven D. Litvintchouk) writes:
> 
> 
> >In article <1992Apr6.164751.20223@hemel.bull.co.uk> igreenaw@hemel.bull.co.uk (ian greenaway) writes:
> 
> >> When exiting from prowrite 3.2, I get a guru.  My setup is an A500 with 1/2 meg
> >> fast & 1/ meg chip + an A590 with 2Mb expansion RAM.
> >> 
> >> This didn't happen before I had the A590.
> >> 
> >> Gomf 3.0 reports the crash as a corrupted <something or other> list.

GOMF3.0 is buggy!!! It can crash the system and then reports the crash.
I have stopped using it. 

> 
Stuff deleted

Keith

> 


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From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala)
Subject: Re: Pixel vs. Screen Aspect Ratios
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 13:22:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.194849.9838@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala) writes:
>
>  Help!  I am totally confused between the many aspect
>  ratios that the Amiga screens can have and pixel height,
>  width discrepancies.
>
>  Is there a good reference to all these issues, or
>  do people kind of just pick it up as they go along?
>

  I found the answers in Vidia Guide to Amiga Graphics.
  It lists screen formats, sizes, and pixel aspect
  ratios.

  Thanks, Clare
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From: Alastair_McColl@mindlink.bc.ca (Alastair McColl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Project Management tools
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:56:18 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Hi David,

> David S. Masterson writes:
> 
> Any developers know of something like this or willing to take the challenge
> of
> developing such a system?  Many people might think in terms of a CAD system
> (like IntroCAD Plus), but that's much more geared toward drawing rather than
> charting types of activities.  In particular, Text Boxes and Text Circles are
> not handled making it difficult to do something like a Pert chart or a data
> flow diagram.  Plus CAD tools typically don't have a scripting system for
> putting together diagrams into (say) a hierarchical set.
> 
> You might consider a package called Graneda Professional. It's a German
> product set up to import and chart data produced by a project management
> scheduler. It has most of the features you mention and does a very nece job.
> 
> Al
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From: anstey@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Charles Anstey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Where can I get more Postscript fonts for Post?
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:22:58 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam NY

Where can I get fonts such as Courier and normal Helvetica fonts for Post?
I want to use Excellence! for word processing but its output is poor
unless I use Postscript.  The only font common between Excellence! and
Post is Times-Roman which I do not want to use and it does not line up
exactly the same.

-Charles Anstey
From: olorin@treff.zer.de (Martin Hanff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re:X-CAD 3000
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 04:45:03 GMT

From: olorin@treff.zer.de (Martin Hanff, Krefeld, Germany)


-> From: Joe_Obrin@a68k.denver.CO.US (Joe Obrin)
-> Subject: X-CAD 3000
->
-> available on a program which we believe is called X-CAD 3000.  He has a
-> need for a full-featured CAD program, and is going to buy a 486 unless I
-> can talk him out of it.  We have heard that this program is already
-> realeased overseas, and may be quite popular.  Any help???

Hello,

   why  don't  you  give DynaCADD a try?  Current version is 2.0,
but  there  will  be  a version 3.0 in late 1992, which will have
dramatic new features.  More on request.  There is a demo version
available  on  Fish.   At least I think it is the program I mean.
Great  piece  of  work.   Easy to learn and to handle with a wide
range  of  functions.  I know nothing better on the Amiga.  Well,
it is quite expensive, but they offer student deals.

Bye,

       Olorin.

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From: rcbi110@muvms3.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Tell me about CG vs. TYPE I.
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:58:58 GMT
Organization: Marshall University


Hello,

Could somebody summarize, and make a FAQL type posting, that tells all the
pros and cons of compugraphic versus adobe type 1 fonts?

What is the _real_ difference between them, and when you convert, do you lose
any information, and why?

Why did C= pick cg, I was under the impression that type 1 was better, but they
could be equal I suppose. Enlighten me :^)

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From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: *** Looking for an Outliner
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:41:47 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <amuser.702623702@marsh> amuser@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Bill Sharp-Smith AUG) writes:
>b) any comments on Flow by New Horizons ?

	I am writing a full review for comp.sys.amiga.reviews on Flow 3.0.
It has good and bad points.  It's very easy to use, but (IMHO) New
Horizons made some unnecessary assumptions about how users work, and
these make the program somewhat annoying for me.

	The review should be available within a month or so.

>c) are there any text editors/word processors that have this ability ?

	TurboText by OXXI.  This is an excellent editor all-around,
though I haven't used its outlining stuff much at all.

                                                        Dan

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From: buu@aphrodite.enst.fr (Emmanuel Buu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Nameless pipes ( I mean |)
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:09:11 GMT
Organization: Telecom Paris, France

I have a 'pipe' command wich allows such things under standart shell

pipe list dh0: FILES QUICK NOHEADER | search IN: SEARCH toto

In fact the syntax is 

pipe <command line with pipes>
From: rforster@mr.gov.bc.ca (Russ Forster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: inserting graphics into final copy??
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:03:47 -700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

	In working with FinalCopy 1.3 I seem to have reached a brick wall
	when it comes to inserting graphics.  I have a been trying to insert
	clip are that is 256x228 with a depth of 1.  When the picture is
	inserted, it seems to be full of 'noise' and is alway cut off at the
	bottom.  I useally only get half of the picture inserted.  Has anyone
	else experenced this?  Any suggestions??

-- 

        /Russ
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: sdl@linus.mitre.org (Steven D. Litvintchouk)
Subject: Re: Writing a Spreadsheet (was: Re: Programming a WP)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
	<1992Mar28.232618.2296@ecst.csuchico.edu>
	<1992Mar31.095624.20807@hemlock.cray.com>
	<CIMSHOP!DAVIDM.92Apr2171945@uunet.UU.NET>
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 18:26:12 GMT


In article <CIMSHOP!DAVIDM.92Apr2171945@uunet.UU.NET> cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) writes:

> Also, isn't AnalytiCalc (or was it some other name??) on the Fish disks in
> source form?  I thought one developer of a spreadsheet had given up trying to
> get real interest in the commercial product and decided to put it out in the
> public domain (maybe as shareware).

Many releases of AnalytiCalc have been released as Fish disks, but I
have never found any of them usable.  AnalytiCalc has always been
prone to crashing if you type an incorrect command, so you have to be
*extremely* careful when you use it.  Also, it has no mouse support,
no ARexx port, etc.


--
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MITRE Corporation
Burlington Road
Bedford, MA  01730

Fone:  (617)271-7753
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: ewong@pinto.ucs.ubc.ca (Eldon Wong)
Subject: using LhA
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:49:55 GMT

This may sound like a stupid question, but how do you use LhA?  I have  
downloaded a copy from ab20 and lysator.liu.se  The file that I got is  
LhA_e122.run.  I have downloaded it in both ascii and binary and cannot  
seem to get it to run.  Help.  Please e-mail me the reply so as not to tie  
up bandwidth unless you think there are more lost souls like myself. :-)
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 14:06:01 PST
From: <WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PostDJ.lzh
 <92097.150134WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
 <1992Apr7.020304.21632@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>

Post v. 1.7 is available, among other places, from unixhub.slac.stanford.edu.

        Willy.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: consp11@bingsuns (Brett Kessler)
Subject: Re: RE: Lharc vs. LZ
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:31:46 GMT

In an article, somebody using Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser's)
account writes:

>However, there are some .LHA files circulating now that even the
>newest LZ (1.92) won't unpack, specifically a bunch of files I
>pulled off hubcap.clemson.edu yesterday having to do with 
>Imagine billiards objects and pictures. I had to unpack them with
>LHA, which worked fine, since LZ complained about their structure.

This is, if you read the documentation for LhA, due to the fact that
there are three different header types associated with the LZHUF
compression programs.  Dubbed level 0, 1, and 2 (how original!  ;-)
LhArc uses level 0, Un*x LHA and Amiga LZ and MS-DOS LHA use level 1, 
and the new MS-DOS LHA and Amiga LhA use level 2 (though the Amiga LhA
defaults to level 0 for compatibility reasons).

IMHO, ditch LhArc, LhArcA, and LZ.  Instead, get LhA_e122.run off of
ab20.  It is fully compatibile with _ALL_ LZHUF compression programs
currently available, and it's much faster, too.

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From: soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PageStream V2.2--Problem w/ selecting screen colors
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:17:33 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <1992Apr8.011725.11502@dcdwest.uucp>

>to the same pallette color, *ever*.  I don't care at all if the color is
>neutral" that is used for text, as long as I can *read* it!  With 1.7, 1.8 an
>2.1 I used a sort of beige (paper) and dark-brown (black) color scheme to
>virtually eliminate flicker.  With Pagestream 2.2's OS2.0-like 3D look, I
>realized that I could not do this anymore, but I chose THREE levels of PURE
>gray for the pallette (something like 3-3-3, 8-8-8, and 12-12-12) and I *stil
>get black screens when importing graphics.  Even when I went to 0-0-0, 8-8-8,
>and 15-15-15 for colors I sometimes get all black screens, or black on gray,
>though it doesn't happen nearly as often as it did when I had "impure" grays 
>the pallette.

Perhaps some clarification: First, it is NOT supposed to do what you are
describing. If you have 2 gray colors, it should work. Personally, I use the
2.0 Workbench colors (with the Blue slightly more gray) and don't have a
problem. I'll try out some of your combos and see if anything happens 
strangely for me.

Apparently, there is a bug related to the hot precisely the sliders are lined
up. This will be fixed. I also believe that in the future, the Palette
requester will prohobit you from making settings which result in all black
screens.

 
Kevin Davidson, Asst. Moderator AmigaZone Vendor Support - PORTAL
               <soft-logik@cup.portal.com>
        SOFT-LOGIK BBS (PCP MOSLO) (314) 894-0057
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: RE: Lharc vs. LZ
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:22:21 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>
>
>LZ is _definitely_ the faster one.  I have noticed significant speed
>increases using it--and no CRC check problems!
>
>It will handle .lzh *and* .lha !!!!
>
>-Greg 

However, there are some .LHA files circulating now that even the
newest LZ (1.92) won't unpack, specifically a bunch of files I
pulled off hubcap.clemson.edu yesterday having to do with 
Imagine billiards objects and pictures. I had to unpack them with
LHA, which worked fine, since LZ complained about their structure.

So even .LHA files have differences depending on if they were
built with LZ or LHA.  Argh!
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 15:01:34 PST
From: <WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PostDJ.lzh

Get Post version 1.7. Its Postlj program also prints on DeskJets.

        Willy.
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From: Dave.Wieringa@p2.f39.n228.z1.therip.fidonet.org (Dave Wieringa)
Sender: fredmail@therip.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Letter Writing Campaign
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 18:27:40 -0500

In a message of <18-Feb-92 20:37:02> Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV (1:228/24) wrote:

 CE"TI> From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
 CE"TI> Organization: Clemson University

 CE"TI> If you're looking at the IBM version, you've probably seen a much
 CE"TI> better version of WP than that which is availible for Amiga.  Sure,
 CE"TI> WP even in its Amiga version is powerful, but it's one of the most
 CE"TI> buggy word processors I've ever seen calling itself anything above
 CE"TI> release 1.1. And if you like smooth, Amigatized programs, look
 CE"TI> elsewhere.

I've been using WP (Amiga) for quite some time now for school papers, and while I know it doesn't compare well to other computers' word processors, what other package is so much greater on the Amiga?

 CE"TI> Whatever your final decision is, don't buy it from WP corp - that
 CE"TI> is, unless you want to get ripped off.  Buy it used - you'll be
 CE"TI> glad that you didn't pay full price.

They have reasonable discount offers for students.

Dave (FIDO 1:228/39.2)
From: gs@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Greg Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: RE: Lharc vs. LZ
Date: 9 Apr 92 05:36:05 GMT



LZ is _definitely_ the faster one.  I have noticed significant speed
increases using it--and no CRC check problems!

It will handle .lzh *and* .lha !!!!

-Greg 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: hakimian@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff)
Subject: Educational Programs
Keywords: education
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 15:40:04 GMT

Were can I find a list of PD educational program? I would rather not search
through 600+ fish disks for the stuff on there, is there a site that has
a good archive is such program?

-- 
Karl Hakimian
hakimian@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
From: tdenbo@dwp.la.ca.us (Tom Denbo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: --- THIS IS MY WORD PROCESSOR ---
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:57:06 GMT

My suggestion is to use the Soft-Logik's HotLinks emerging standard.  Just
think if all WP, DTP, and graphic programs used it!  I'm sure there are
many other uses for HotLinks.  Hell, even MickiSoft Windows has this!

BTW since Sam Walton broke up his $14 billion estate before he died, Bill
Gates is the richest man in the country with something like $4 billion.  
Argggg!
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