HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: walt@bcarh1d7.bnr.ca (Walt Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Terminal programs.
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:38:44 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
In-reply-to: troy@centerline's message of 20 Sep 92 05:21:20 GMT

In article <19h1ogINNa6g@armory.centerline.com> troy@centerline (Troy Runkel) writes:

>   Up until very recently I have been using the public domain program 
>   VT100 along with my trusty old 2400 baud modem and my Amiga 2000 
>   for all my telecommunication needs.  I have recently upgraded to a 
>   much faster modem (a Microcom QX/4232bis) and was wondering what my 
>   options for upgrading my software were.  I spend most of my time 
>   talking to UNIX systems, so something like an Xterminal emulator 
>   would be ideal.  If such a beast is unavailable for the Amiga then 
>   something that would allow for multiple shell windows to be active 
>   would be the next best thing.  Thank you in advance for any thoughts,
>   advise or information you have to offer.

For an Xterminal emulator, you'd need a SLIP connection to your Unix
box. The Amiga software to talk SLIP is either commercial (Dale Luck's
ethernet board & software), or rumored to be hard to set up (the KA9Q
packet radio package), and requires work to set up at the Unix end,
too.

I use Willy Langeveld's freeware VLT terminal package to talk to the
Unix boxes at work, and a Unix package called 'screen' to give me
multiple screens.

--
Walt Sullivan
INTERNET: walt@bnr.ca (work)
UUCP: walt@orbit.ocunix.on.ca (home)
FIDO: 1:163/109.4
From: fgd3@nifty.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe, III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: DIP switches on my modem
Distribution: world
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:15:09 EDT
Organization: Fabbian G. Dufoe, III

In article <1992Oct3.235439.22096@polari> wally@polari.online.com writes:
>Does anyone know the function/position mapping for the Avatex 1200 modem.
>I lost the manual and I can't figure out how to keep my modem from answering 
>the phone if I leave the power on. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

   If it uses the Hayes command set "ATS0=0" should turn off auto answer.

--Fabbian G. Dufoe, III
   350 Ling-A-Mor Terrace South   | GEnie:    F.DUFOE3
   St. Petersburg, Florida  33705 | internet: fgd3%nifty@tct.com
   813-823-2350                   | uucp:     ...tct!deep6!nifty!fgd3

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: jim@cs.curtin.edu.au (Jim McGrady)
Subject: More Term2.3 probs
Keywords: Term
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:55:07 GMT

Hi All

I downloaded Term 2.3 some time ago, but after trying it out it was delegated to
the back of my disk box. Like many posters to this group, Term crashed for me
every time I left mouse clicked on the main window.

Anyway, I recently tried out a friends WB2.1 beta and, SHOCKED AND STUNNED! Term
didn't crash!! :-).

BUT, when I log onto my usual sites I encounter a new problem - the space
character is not sent :-(

I've tried booting without any other Apps, but get the same problem, no spaces
are sent. Is this some problem with my setup ??? Its a pity because Term is
such a good looking program.

Thanks in Advance

Jim
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: QWK off-line message reader for Amiga?
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:17:30 PST
Organization: BBS

> Names to look for:
> 
> Q-Blue:  .QWK and BlueWave
> MessageView:  .QWK and .XRS
> 
> Don't have exact file names, but these are two of the best I've
> seen.
 
I registered MessageView before starting on Q-Blue.  It's the
solidest of the older programs.  Currently in semi-limbo because the
author is doing a ground-up rewrite (the fact that it needed one
kinda tells you how perfect it is) which is going to be a long time
coming.
 
The most common filenames are Q-BLUE07.LZH and MV113EVL.LZH.
 
> MV especially is inexpensive at 15 US, I don't remember the QBlue
> registration price.
 
$20.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: kprastin@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Ken Rastin)
Subject: Re: A2000 & No. BBS lines
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:37:56 GMT

In article <htweedie.04r7@madhat.actrix.gen.nz> htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz (Hamish Tweedie) writes:
>
>	For all you BBS Sysops out there, how many lines have you found you
>can sustain at 14.4K on an A2000 under WB2.0? If the figure is only one,
>then have you been able to add a second line at 9600 or 2400 baud and found
>the set up stable?
>
>	Many thanks for your time.
>
>-- 
>
>|           ///    htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz  Bombora/Ross 780 sailor|
>| Taste    ///       OR tweedie_h@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz        | RZ350, R65,|
>|= Amiga  ///        OR tweedie@ivory.isor.vuw.ac.nz        | K75S rider.|
>|    \\\ /// "Computer programmers were put on Earth to make accountants |
>|     \XX//  look interesting!"   "Stretch yourself.........get morphed!"|

Although I have not tried running 2 14.4k modems on an unexpanded A2000, I
did find that 1 14.4k modem made things rather cludgy.  I run a 2 line BBS
and found that with 2 users online (one at 14.4k and the other on my 2400 buad
line) that the user at 2400 had to suffer quit a bit of jerkiness.  Especially
if the 14.4k user was uploading or downloading.

My opinion would be that an unexpanded system would be usable with a 14.4k
and a 2400 baud.  2 14.4k seems to push it a bit.

The Land of the Darkside BBS 519-888-9869
2 nodes - 24 hours a day.  Latest Cnet Amiga Software!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: philipm@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Philip Marivoet)
Subject: ARCnet references
Organization: Dept. Computerwetenschappen
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:24:04 GMT

Keywords: 

Hi, I downloaded the 'pocket' ARCnet schematics a while ago and have been
looking for books/articles/documents on ARCnet since then. Unfortunately
I haven't found a single reference. Is there anyone who can help me
with this ? Thanks in advance.

-Philip
From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Amiga NewReader
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.2.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 4 Oct 92 07:14:38 EDT
Organization: Well, I haven't decided on a name yet...

In article <1992Oct04.043534.108@NeoSoft.com> martink@NeoSoft.com (Martin Koistinen) writes:
> I am looking for an offline newsreader. I am using an Amiga 1000 with 2.5
> megs and a 60 Meg HD. I have BBS access to usenet. I have seen Dillon's
> UUCP but it seems like it serves a different purpose. It also seems VERY
> difficult to setup. Anyone know of a simple solution?

What BBS? How does it generate packets for you? Do you have NNTP access?
These are questions that you have to answer before we can answer yours.

AmigaUUCP transfers the articles, to your machine, using a protocol named
(oddly enough) UUCP. It's pretty simple to set up, actually. The size of it
does tend to be a little daunting....

There are a variety of newsreaders available for AmigaUUCP. Personally, I
think the best, and the easiest to use is GRn. But then again, I author it.
--
  //   Michael B. Smith
\X/    mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us  -or-  uunet.uu.net!virginia.edu!adastra!mbs
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Baudbandit.device?
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:27:06 GMT
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

In article G0w@news.cso.uiuc.edu, saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson) writes:
>I just read a posting by James Grizzard, and he indicated that
>he is using a baudbandit.device.
>
>I thought that baudbandit was a term prog!
>
>I guess it still could be, but why would people be using 
>devices from one term prog on another?
>
>Please enlighten me,

yes, baudbandit IS a term program, but there's also a device called BaudBandit.device.

it's basically a serial device replacement that has a LOT less overhead than serial.
device, and is supposed to be able to handle 115k on a stock 68000.  all it removes
is Xon/Xoff, and adds the fact that you have to be at 8N1.  

I've definately noticed a lighter strain while multitasking, tho.. it's worth the
trouble to use....

look for it on anonymous ftp at amiga.physik.unizh.ch in amiga/comm/misc/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: lar@ucs.usl.edu (Robert, Lane A.)
Subject: Re: Stupid question about Kermit and Unix
Reply-To: lar@ucs.usl.edu (Robert, Lane A.)
Organization: Univ. of SW Louisiana, Lafayette
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:58:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.064143.7649@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
agb16@mbuc.bio.cam.ac.uk (Alan Baxter) writes:
   Could someone please tell me how to do a binary kermit transfer
   between our SunOS Release 4.1.1 Sun Workstation which I am
   connected to over a phone link and VLT?

Try:
	kermit -i -s filename
on the Sun.  Everything else sounds correct.

Lane
lar@ucs.usl.edu
From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Address for JR-Comm
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 10:01:10 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I don't have the address of Dynalogic off hand, but the BBS
number is (609) 625-2453.  If you have the shareware version
of Jr-Comm(any version), the about menu item has the information.
From: mjl@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Maurice J. LeBrun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Help with Dnet
Date: 3 Oct 92 05:30:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep28.063154.11649@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> rwhelan@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ryan A. Whelan) writes:
>...
>Seems to understand what I am typing becuase it echos what I try correctly
>but then I get an error, so I connect with the UNIX using JR-COMM
>then I log in and run dnet on the unix.  I then exit JRCOMM
>and run the DNET. It starts the first terminal and exits it, then it says
>starting dnet.  It hangs there forever.  ANy siggestions?

Make SURE your dnet.servers file on the Unix system has the correct path
names for the dnet binaries.  That's been my problem on a couple of
occasions. 

--
Maurice LeBrun    mjl@fusion.ph.utexas.edu
Institute for Fusion Studies, University of Texas at Austin

Faire de la bonne cuisine demande un certain temps.  Si on vous fait
attendre, c'est pour mieux vous servir, et vous plaire.
                                [menu of restaurant Antoine, New Orleans]
From: vidiot@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Rankin Eric)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Amiga BBS's
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:39:00 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

ree88132@zach.fit.edu (Keith Ledig) writes:

> I am looking for good a good BBS prg.  Please advise.
> I would like to have Fidonet and newsgroups (i guess via UUCP)
> I heard DLG is good, but I'm looking to make a fair comparrison
> to all existing.
> 
> Keith
> 
> -- 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------    
> Keith Ledig   ree88132@zach.fit.edu         [Tech-Forum BBS 407-722-4400]

Be sure to take a good look at  the latest version of C-Net and 
Excelsior.  I don't know much about Excelsior, but i hear its pretty 
good.

C-Net now has full netmail capability built in, online editing of 
users/groups/subs/etc via arrow-key-driven menus.  Its REALLY improving 
all the time.

I don't know if there's a demo version around, and you need to be a sysop 
or know one to fully appreciate ALL the power.  If you want to call mine 
and see what a sysop sees, I'll arrange it...let me know.

Eric
s
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From: kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Supra V32bis modems and power supplies ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:02:43 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Originator: kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca


I would prefer to leave my modem running 24 hours a day, but it seems that
the power supply gets a lot warmer than I feel safe with.  It only needs a few
more degrees before I would not be able to touch it.

Has anyone who leaves their Supra V32bis modem running continuously had any
problems with overheating?  I sent a letter to Supra, but I didn't receive any
response.

Ken

BTW, has Supra sent out the new Roms to anyone yet?
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Taglines
Keywords: taglines, offline mail
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:31:22 GMT
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

can someone post some good taglines up here???

I have a file of nearly 1000 *HAND PICKED* taglines that I want to increase in size...
post some of yours and I'll post 'ya some of mine... :)

tnx
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: New Supra ROM upgrades
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 25 Sep 92 21:26:18 EST
Organization: What organization?

News from GEnie's Amiga RoundTable:

Supra is getting ready to release new ROMs for their V.32/V.32bis FaxModems.
The ROMS will come in 2 versions. According to information posted on Supra's
BBS, registered owners will receive a free version without Silent Answer or
Caller I.D. The full version will be under $30.

     1.2H ROM features:

     Enhances Busy Detection
     Fixes several Lock Display/Modem problems
     Improved Speed Renegotiation (Fall Back) upon bad line conditions
     Implements Fall Forward upon better line conditions
     Fixes Adaptive Answering (allows data/fax determination)
     Implements ECM  (Error Correction Mode)
        Note:  Must be supported by fax software
     Implements BFT mode (Binary File Transfer)
        Note:  Must be supported by fax/terminal software
     Fixes problem with DCD line turning off if modem configured with &C
     &Dx and &Cx settings are respected when in fax mode
     Fixes problem connecting with some fax machines
     Added S-Register S109
     Added S-Register S110=3
     Implements Silent Answer (allows voice/fax determination)
         Note:  Must be supported by fax software

     Rev 1.2J ROM Implements Caller ID

Upcoming Features and New Products:

The following features and new products are being worked on. We do not have
any information on dates, technical information, upgrade costs, or product
cost. As soon as we have the information, we will post it on our BBS.

     Internal version
     Certifiable International version
     MNP10
     V23
     Voice digitization in modem
     Voice software
     DTMF encoding/decoding

For more information, contact Supra Corporation at 7101 Supra Drive S.W.,
Albany OR 97321 or call 503/967-2400.

                                  -*-
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Stamford, CT, USA    \\//        andyp@admiral.uucp          \\//
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"I finally have a chest to speak of and the only man in my life doesn't
know what to do with it." - Murphy Brown
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From: fgd3@nifty.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe, III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: UUCP software
Distribution: na
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:00:04 EDT
Organization: Fabbian G. Dufoe, III

In article <EyMLr*ND1@becca.rain.com> john@becca.rain.com (john meissen) writes:
>I've been running Amiga UUCP for several years now, and gave been quite
>happy. A friend of mine wants to be similarly connected, but can't
>spare his Amiga for the purpose. He does, however, have a spare PC clone
>with available time, disk space, and internal modem.

   What's the problem?  I haven't found Amiga UUCP to interfere with my use
of the Amiga.  

>Can anyone enlighten me as to the availability of UUCP/News/email software
>that runs on the PC?

   There is a system called Waffle which provides UUCP on MS-DOS.  It's
shareware.  The registration fee for individual users is $30.  The author is

   Thomas E Dell
   PO Box 4436
   Mountain View CA 94040-0436

for email try "dell@vox.darkside.com".

   Waffle is available from

      simtel20.army.mil     PD1:<MSDOS.BBS>WAFxxx.ZIP
      wuarchive.wustl.edu   /mirrors/msdos/bbs/wafxxx.zip.1


--Fabbian G. Dufoe, III
   350 Ling-A-Mor Terrace South   | GEnie:    F.DUFOE3
   St. Petersburg, Florida  33705 | internet: fgd3%nifty@tct.com
   813-823-2350                   | uucp:     ...tct!deep6!nifty!fgd3
From: richardc@vogue.adsp.sub.org (Richard Carde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: FAX software for ZyXel
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:25:47 GMT
Organization: Amiga Developer (GPSoftware ACM093)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Sep24.001618.4986@exu.ericsson.se> exulibe@exu.ericsson.se (Curtis Libey) writes:

> Do any Amiga FAX applications (AFax, GVFax, others?) work with the
                                       ^^^^^
That's GPFax, and it works well.  GPFax is available from Supra.
You MUST specify the NON-Supra version.

The Supra version comes with Supra modems and will work ONLY on SUPRA
modems.

> ZyXel 1496-E? I'd love to hear a confirmation from someone actually
> using one of these combinations - I've almost made up my mind to buy
> the ZyXel over the Supra or Zoom based on what I've read here and
> comp.dcom.modems. In fact, I'd like to hear from anyone about the
> Amiga software they are using with ZyXels. I will summarize if 
> warranted.

IMHO, the ZyXEL modem is a VERY good modem.  It's firmware is not based
on code by another company (neither is the Supra now), and therefore
has few bugs, if any.

See a post by Russell McOrmond recently, about the workings of a ZyXEL.

Very nice modem - but I have had little trouble with the Supra either.
I would recommend either modem.

> Curtis Libey			Ericsson Network Systems
> exulibe@exu.ericsson.se		Richardson, TX (not Sweden)

-- 
  Richard Carde     Developer for GPSoftware    Voice: +61 7 300 6864
         EMAIL: richardc@vogue.adsp.sub.org            +61 7 300 6315
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From: olsen@sourcery.mxm.sub.org (Olaf Barthel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: The cause for Term problems? (was Re: Term 2.3 still has problems...)
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:58:05 CED
Organization: MXM Barthel & Paesler

In article <Buws8L.1AM@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> whodges@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (William Hodges) writes:
> The other problem I have with Term is that it does not seem to release all the
> memory it allocates when I starts.  When I run subsquent Term's after closeing
> the first term the screen name is TERM.1 , like the first one was still
> open.  I check what was running and sure nuff there was another Tern that had
> allocated a window, stack, libraries, but not the serial.device.

   (slowly working through the accumulated mail)

   `term' will count the run count only up, but not down. Suppose you run
two `term' programs, terminate the first one (which had assigned the ID
`TERM' to the screen) and start two more `term' programs. One would
invariably try to use the screen ID `TERM.1' causing a name collision.

> whodges@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
> VTCS

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From: bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Busy BBS
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:46:39 MST
Organization: The Back Burner BBS (via C-Net Amiga)

On Mon  5-Oct-1992  8:45p, Rainer V Mager wrote:

RM> Hi,
RM>         Does anyone know of a SMALL program that will sit around and
RM> answer the modem if a call comes in, give a short (a few lines) message,
RM> and then hang up.

Starlight Express Answering Machine does this.  You can probably FTP it
from most anywhere.

I adapted Term 2.3 with an ARexx script to do this for a friend one time,
I can see if he still has it.. although you mentioned you wanted it SMALL,
and Term 2 isn't very small. :)

You could probably adapt ARexx in general to do the trick.

--- Via UCI v1.12 (C-Net Amiga)

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From: ree88132@zach.fit.edu (Keith Ledig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: XPR libs
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:53:15 GMT
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

Lets try this again.
Could someone please tell me how to config my xpr lib for 
escaping control characters.  When I xfer to my unix host it
chokes unless I escape control characters at MY end.  Jrcomm
does this.  It has a radio button to config it.  I want to
configure Term2.3 to do the same, but don't know how.  I read the
docs to the xprzmodem lib and it did not say anything about it.
I tried to select prefs for xfers in Term itself but it doesen't
include escape control characters. 

(I am refering to zmodem and the xprzmodem lib above)

thanks,

Keith

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Keith Ledig   ree88132@zach.fit.edu         [Tech-Forum BBS 407-722-4400]
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: supra config...
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:02:37 GMT
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

can anybody tell me the best computer/modem config for a supraFAXmodem 14.4 v.32bis to
get the highest CPS rate possible?? I ordered my SupraFAXmodem this morning, and I
want to be ready for it when it gets here wednesday... ;>

tnx...
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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: The cause for Term problems? (was Re: Term 2.3 still has problems...)
Date: 30 Sep 1992 00:43:44 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

olsen@sourcery.mxm.sub.org (Olaf Barthel) writes:
:    I finally found the cause for the crashes! As some users have reported
: before, no crashes would occur if the WB 2.1 SetPatch was in effect. I did
: not know what to make of it until I took a closer look at the patches
: installed. To make a long story short, my gadtools interface code was broken.
: It was mistaking the IDCMP_MOUSEMOVE events posted when the text selection
: was made for events to be directed to a gadtools object. As there were no
: objects to listen to it, the interface code ended up trashing random memory
: locations.

Yes!!!  (I thought so, I remembered that there was a patch which had
something to do with mousemoves, but I couldn't remember exactly what
the conditions were, so I didn't go searching...  ;)

So when do we expect 2.4???  ;)

Out of curiosity:  Are you using SAS?  I was wondering if you were
using 5.10b's optimization routines...  (I hope not)

Greg

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