From: "wayne mcguire" <wayne.mcguire@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: jewish racism     1/2
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:17:50 EST
Reply-To: "wayne mcguire" <wayne.mcguire@channel1.com>
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To: Mark Ira Kaufman

 MIK> In a recent post, Wayne McGuire fixated on a man who he
 MIK> claims was a racist.  While it's evident that Wayne McGuire
 MIK> knows little or nothing about the man whose reputation he
 MIK> assailed, his skewed vision of this man is not the main
 MIK> reason that this post is, IMO, another example of Wayne
 MIK> McGuire's anti-semitism.  He labeled his post "Jewish
 MIK> racism."

The man we are talking about is Ze'ev Jabotinsky, one of the most
influential figures in the history of Zionism, and the
ideological godfather of the political movement which was most
recently led by Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir.

A few questions:

Do you deny that Jabotinsky made the racist remarks I quoted (and
which I will quote below)?

How do Jabotinsky's views about the racial purity of Jews differ
from the views of Nazis on German racial purity?

Is it unfair to label KKK members and neo-Nazis as "white
racists" and advocates of "white racism"? The term "white racism"
is used all the time in polite parlance. German neo-Nazis are
proponents of "German racism," clearly. If Jabotinsky's views are
not an example of "Jewish racism," then what term would you use
to describe them?

Just today, Yitzhak Shamir, the former prime minister of Israel,
has been quoted as describing "the Arabs"--ALL Arabs--as lovers
of murder and murderers. What term would you use to describe this
form of racism, I wonder?

Do you criticize Israelis when they use the term "Arab terrorism"
to describe instances of Arab terrorism? Is "Arab terrorism" a
legitimate term in polite political dialogue?

Are you a defender or admirer of Jabotinsky, btw? You seem to be
speaking of him respectfully. Do you share his views on the
subject of Jewish racial purity?

I truly doubt that trying to smear anyone who raises these
questions as a "rabid anti-Semite" is going to take anyone's eyes
off the ball. This would be like German neo-Nazis answering
complaints about their German racism with the laughable charge
that their critics are "rabid anti-Germans." It just won't wash,
at least in the civilized world.

<knotes>

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<des>

     Leading Zionist ideologue Ze'ev Jabotinsky preaches the
     doctrine of Jewish racial purity. (Schoenman Hidden History
     of Zionism 1988)

<doctype>book
<author>Schoenman, Ralph
<title>The Hidden History of Zionism
<city>Santa Barbara, CA
<publisher>Veritas Press
<year>1988

<excerpt>

     It's interesting to recall, as well, that Jabotinsky located
     his colonial impulse in the doctrine of the purity of blood.
     Jabotinsky spelled this out in his "Letter on Autonomy:"

     "It is impossible for a man to become assimilated with
     people whose blood is different than his own. In order to
     become assimilated, he must change his body, he must become
     one of them, in blood. There can be no assimilation. We
     shall never allow such things as mixed marriage because the
     preservation of national integrity is impossible except by
     means of racial purity and for that purpose we shall have
     this territory where our people will constitute the racially
     pure inhabitants."

     This theme was further elaborated by Jabotinsky:

     "The source of national feeling ... lies in a man's blood
     ... in his racio-physico type and in that alone.... A man's
     spiritual outlook is primarily determined by his physical
     structure. For that reason we do not believe in spiritual
     assimilation. It is inconceivable, from the physical point
     of view, that a Jew born to a family of pure Jewish blood
     can become adapted to the spiritual outlook of a German or a
     Frenchman. He may be wholly imbued with that German fluid,
     but the nucleus of his spiritual structure will always

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