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From: kkrebs@amilink.UUCP (Ken Krebs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: "Chomping at the bit..." - Again
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us (Ken Krebs)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:51:39 PST
Organization: Sacramento Amiga Computer Club - Sacramento, CA


Just to let Skip Sauls know - Amiga news has published his "story" on the
front page of their August newsletter.  The title of the article is "The
A4000 - The Scoop on Commodore's Newest!" and they have "by Anon" where the
author's name should be.

Congrats, Skip.  You've conquered yet another magazine/newsletter.

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From: sjc28473@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven Joseph Chmura)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 Rumors...
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:19:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BtpErz.3o4
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan) writes:

>If I remember correctly, it was acknowledged in an EE trade publication that
>CBM had signed a licensing agreement with AT&T to utilize one of their new
>DSPs. Of course, they were also one of the first to license the Insite
>20 MB Floptical drive, which has yet to materialize.

Wasn't the DSP based 040 machine dropped soon after Devcon '91?  I think
this is the machine that Ethan S. was so pissed about....

>Mark

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From: brianc@iastate.edu (Brian J Cerveny)
Subject: Re: Commodore meltdown?!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:15:07 GMT

In <1992Aug29.210917.19967@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:

>Business new reporter with GREASY HAIR told news of Commodore meltdown.
>Everyone asking HOW C= going to make new AA Amiga/CDTV if Engineering
>and CDTV heads missing?  No news of replacement heads.

And me wonder where you got learned grammar.

Besides, with a 4000 and AA chipset already briefly introduced, why shouldn't
they be at the show in two weeks?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga Sucks and Amigoids are Suckers
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Date: 31 Aug 92 07:21:29 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Aug31.030512.11722@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mystery) writes:
> 
> 
> Amiga Owners:
>              Cock Suckers.....programmed to sing in praise of a tasteless
>              computer!   BIG Period!!!

	We'll even if we are cock-suckers we would suck your cock because
	I can tell by your post that you're cock-less.

> 
> Amiga SSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!
From: Chris_Millar@lppl.mi.org (Chris Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:34:13 GMT
Organization: Les's Place BBS

GUI with documentation................what a joke.


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From: Da-Hogman@cup.portal.com (HOGAN DEAN WHITTALL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: 80,000,000...
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 92 22:30:52 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

That mykes@amiga guy made a good point.  We use what works best for us.
I've got a PC clone and an Amiga.  The Amiga just does what suits my needs 
and the PC sits and gathers dust.  Hey, if the shoes fits, wear it.
Every computer has its place.  The PC just doesn't "fit" me.  It's like a
stuffy dress shoe.  You only use it when you absolutely have to.  The Amiga
on the other hand, is like an everyday shoe.  It does what I need and doesn't
talk back, nor does it cause me any pain.  This Amiga shoe will be with me 
for many YEARS to come.  I haven't regreted the purchase ONCE.
From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:13:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Sep1.231333.9874
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep01.012719.55@pdnfido.fidonet.org> breaker@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Guy Sisalli) writes:
>I beg your pardon?!?!? 8^), MUSIC DEALERS?? CARYING FALCONS?!?!?!?
>
>BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Sorry about that, I haven't had a good laugh in a while.
>What makes you think that music dealers are going to carry a computer? They
>don't carry IBM's w/soundblasters, Mac's, or Amiga's(at least, none around here
>do), and they are most DEFINATLY not going to carry an Atari product.
>
>go change you diaper!!

Actually, *A LOT* of music stores carry Atari products.  Most of Atari's
dealers are music stores.  After all, that's where Atari has it's main
niche in the U.S.

Steve
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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:59:06 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <92243.203248MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> Norman St. John Polevaulter <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.200109.11540@ra.msstate.edu>, skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
>(Skip Sauls) says:
>
>>Compared to you, the stupidest person that I've ever met looks like a
>>genius.  You are a perfect example of what has happened to the American
>>educational system due to a Democratic Congress.

Actually he seems to be a prime example of the failure of the Education
President.

>
>HEY! Watch it! Don't blame the Democrats for that guy! He's OBVIOUSLY the
>fault of the social program cutbacks under Reagan!
>
>:-)
>
>[Your blood pressure just went up.]       Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
>       DISCLAIMER: If it ain't money, Penn State doesn't care about it.
>   "Ladies and gentlemen, I've suffered for my music! Now it's your turn!"


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From: gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: World of CBM, Pasadena
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:50:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Sep2.165003.13261
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Sep1.155707.18400@news.uit.no> borgen@stud.cs.uit.no (Boerge Noest) writes:
>leaking information left, right, and middle. I therefore claim to know that
>C= has had it's commercial developers on a trip to somewhere in the USA
>(don't remember where) where they have been able to test their software on

	San Francisco, I believe.  
There WILL be AA chipset machines, the question is: How much of the rumors
are true and what the price will be, if it's anything like the 040T's price
they might as well not release them, as far as most Amiga users I've talked to
are concerned.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:07:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.211827.20288@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.225903.5794@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>>However, the fact is that this isn't being used as a processor
>>upgrade, as in the 2000/3000.  It's also not being used as a graphics
>>upgrade, as the LocalBus.  It's being used as a bus.  They're putting
>>cards into this processor slot which on either of the above types of
>>systems would have gone into a real bus and therefore have access to
>>bus-mastering, DMA, and more importantly, you're not limited to ONE.
>
>How many lies can you put into one posting?? Developer said 030/040
>and video upgrade can be made CHEAP and easy for Falcon.  WHERE is
>cheap boards and cards for A3000 and A600? People want cheap hardware
>not cheap vapor!

Yeah, a cheap and ugly hack that clips onto the CPU or something else
equally fitting for a piece of junk like the Falcon.  People don't want
cheap hardware like the fecal material that drops out of the rear-end
of Atari Corp.  They do want inexpensive hardware, but of course a bozo
like you wouldn't know the difference.

Skip Sauls
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
From: lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:03:47 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:
: In article <1992Aug27.225903.5794@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
: >However, the fact is that this isn't being used as a processor
: >upgrade, as in the 2000/3000.  It's also not being used as a graphics
: >upgrade, as the LocalBus.  It's being used as a bus.  They're putting
: >cards into this processor slot which on either of the above types of
: >systems would have gone into a real bus and therefore have access to
: >bus-mastering, DMA, and more importantly, you're not limited to ONE.
: 
: How many lies can you put into one posting?? Developer said 030/040
: and video upgrade can be made CHEAP and easy for Falcon.  WHERE is
: cheap boards and cards for A3000 and A600? People want cheap hardware
: not cheap vapor!

Finally I found the way to use "kill files" with this news reader - no
longer do I have to read these redicilous but not funny messages from
Jeff Very Young or whatever his/it's real name is.

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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:52:01 GMT

>Marc, try reading what it says here - the game looks better on an Amiga than
>VGA, _not_ SVGA.  HAM is at least comparable to 256-colour VGA at 320x200,
>which is what the standard PC Links uses.  So, what AmigaWorld said was true,
>and to accuse them of LIES is a big exaggeration.  What you can accuse them of
>is not telling the whole truth - there is a new version of Links for [34]86's
>that looks better than the Amiga version when it's running on a (supported)
>SVGA card.  Just which particular SVGA cards does it support, by the way?  You
>do realise that there's no standard, don't you?

        I can't remember exactly how many, but Access provided quite a few
   SVGA drivers for all the popular boards.  There must of been at least 
   15-20 of them.

							G.Greene

                 
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From: ada@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Sunga Rettaf)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: ICRF, Inc., A Non-Profit Organization
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:28:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.084427.27049@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:
>: One of the planned third-party 'peripherals' for the Falcon030's 
>: processor-direct slot is an external 'bus cage' (an external box
>: with several VMEbus and/or other-type bus slots), so it *WILL* be
>: able to handle more than a single peripheral card.
>
>But there's a slight problem:  The other third party "peripherals"
>being designed are FOR that "processor direct slot".  They won't work
>with the cage...  Which gives it even less of a base than the PDS will
>have.

What are the chances of compatibility with the CPU slot on the Amiga
A3000 model?  It would be very nice to have the capability to add
the 040 boards for the A3000 to the Falcon.  Also, is there a way to
add a Zorro III card cage to the Falcon?  

>Greg
>
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From: kuch@reed.edu (Jerry Kuch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:41:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug28.044101.20245
Organization: Eat My Puke International

In article <1992Aug28.040537.24558@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.150337.27436@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>>Why are so many different sound generators needed?  The NeXT has really nice
>>sound and it only has the 56001 and a couple of DACs.  I'd imagine that the
>>Falcon could have been even less expensive had they just used one sound
>>system instead of 3 (or is it 4?).  The old ST sound chip is about as complex
>>as the old SID chip in the C64 (or maybe even less so), so why not let the
>>DSP emulate it?  
>
>The old ST sound chip is worse that the C-64 SID chip.  It is the same
>chip that was found in the Z-80 based Amstrad CPC I used to have 
>(still have somewhere in a box) and the sound was utter crap.
>It would require some tricky software to emulate the thing though -
>it was programmed by writing directly to the chip registers.  They
>would have problems with lots of old games.

For North American audiences, add that the same chip was found in the 
ColecoVision, the Coleco ADAM, and the Texas Instruments TI-99/4A, as well
as being part of the standard hardware on the doomed to slow, painful death
MSX brood of machines...

>
>>Skip Sauls
>
>-- 
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From: doug@dsij.uucp (Doug Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Literary analysis & Jeff Young (was Re:  flamefest '92)
Date: 30 Aug 1992 22:14:01 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <James_Hastings-Trew.0iyi@telepro.UUCP> James_Hastings-Trew@telepro.UUCP (James Hastings-Trew) writes:
>In a message dated Thu 27 Aug 92 18:24, Dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (davi
>wrote:
>
> D> flame war against his writing skills. Below is a sample transcript of
> D> two
> D> conversations written by Jeff Young, followed by my professional
> D> analysis
> D> using Proper Grammar v1.0.
[deleted]

>Jeff Young's use of grammar is so bad that his writings are nearly
>unintelligible.
...
>
>I am suprised that Proper Grammar's reading ease score rated Jeff's writing
>at "fairly easy." I imagine that the failing of the algorithm is that the
>programmer assumed that the writer of the text would at least make a fair
>effort to use intelligible sentence construction.
  I wonder what Proper Grammar would have to say about James Joyce'
Ulysses...

>Consider the following questions raised by the snippet of quoted material
>above (material which you yourself chose):
>
>"You deep dodo!"
>What is a "deep dodo?" (I think he meant deep doo-doo)
>Why are you one? (I think he meant you are in) 
  This is a case of alternate meanings. He was implying doo-doo _and_ dodo,
the extinct flightless bird.

>"WHERE is direct slot on A600"
>Who is A600? Is that a person? (without the object "the" infront of the
>name, I can only assume it is a proper name, not an identification of an
>object.)
  He's obviously imitating the style of Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer, mocking
posters to this newsgroup.

>"News said $799 LIST PRICE so Falcons will be $700 and lower"
>Why does it follow that Falcons will be 700 dollars and lower if "News"
>(whoever that is) said the amount 799 dollars?
  Commentator ignores context, so misses point of sentence.

>"vAApor cards not selling so hot!"
>What is a vaapor, and why are there capital letters in the middle of the
>word?
>(I think he was making a joke, by including the "AA" from "AA Chipset" in
>the word vapor. The result of the joke is an unreadable word. This analysis
>does not even touch on the reality that the "AA Chipset" does not sell on a
>"card")
  You misssed the clever connection between heat and vapour?

>I don't read his stuff because it is usually repetitive, incomprehensible
>babbling. People should learn the English language before cluttering up
>this newsgroup with this verbal diarreha. Besides, anybody who uses more
				    ^^^
>than one exclamation mark per sentence does not deserve to be read.
>
  Tsk, tsk, bad spelling, five marks off.

:)

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From: scottw@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Scott Weintraub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: IFF database of .advocacy folks
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:35:55 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source Pub Access Unix

I think JPEG would be the most suitable file format.  It's small (smaller
than IFF), and can easily be converted to other file formats.  In the case
of JPEG, the pictures can also be 24-bit for people with the proper display
boards.  There are also PD JPEG conversion programs that people can get
their hands on.  

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From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Subject: Re: A4000 Rumors...
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:01:53 GMT

In article <AHANSFOR.92Aug27134202@wpi.wpi.edu> ahansfor@wpi.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford) writes:
>kkrebs> I keep hearing rumors of the "new" A4000.  One that has really
>kkrebs> tweaked my ear is the rumor of a DSP on the motherboard 

>Gee, I would say the DSP sounds wrong.

[..]

If I remember correctly, it was acknowledged in an EE trade publication that
CBM had signed a licensing agreement with AT&T to utilize one of their new
DSPs. Of course, they were also one of the first to license the Insite
20 MB Floptical drive, which has yet to materialize.

Mark

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From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Subject: Shakeout in PC Industry Continues 
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 15:07:36 GMT

Computerworld (August 10, 1992)

Everex, Zeos try to hang on as PC market shakeout nears (p. 93)

      "The other shoe has finally begun to drop in the personal computer
industry price wars, as the ravaged bottom lines of several second- and
third-tier vendors attest to. According to analysts, this is just the
beginning of a much predicted shakeout in the PC arena, and the trend should
continue throughout the year...
      One of the worst hit is Everex Systems, Inc, which has announced that
it does not expect to be profitable for the quarter just ended... The company
last week said it is cutting costs by terminating 10% of its work force,
currently at about 2,450 employees, and pruning the number of products
available in each of its PC families..."
      "Also cutting back is Zeos International Ltd., which last week laid off
93 employees in the wake of an $11.1 million loss for the second quarter of
1992, after posting a $1.9 million first-quarter deficit... Zeos is also
facing a cash crisis: The company's line of credit has been halved to
$8 million, and Zeos said its bank will not renew the credit line, set to
expire in December. The company said that while it had $748,000 in short-term
debt, its long-term ledger is debt-free."

Mark

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From: doiron@starpt.UUCP (Glenn Doiron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  IFF database of .advocacy folks
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:22:53 GMT
Organization: 68K Software Development

In article <64812@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.054653.28730@pdnfido.fidonet.org>
>bill@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Bill Lanides) writes:
>
>|In article <64630@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:
>|
>|>Rather than IFF pix, might I suggest "faces" format?
>|
>|Faces?? Has anyone here even HEARD of faces???
>|JPEG is by far the standard! It's as small as you can get, it's 24-bit, and
>|it's made for digitizing thousand color+ images like a human face.
>
>Sheesh.  Like _any_ Amiga can display 24-bits-deep images?
>
>Go ahead, send your 640x480x24 (921 KiloBytes) pictures to Skip and see how
>far it gets across the net.

I retract my previous post for IFF-24.  Jpeg fits the bill.

Glenn Doiron
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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Re: Re: A4000 Specs? Who knows.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 18:39:38 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <13806@chalmers.se> <64904@cup.portal.com>
  <1992Aug29.171531.827@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> <64950@cup.portal.com>
  <1992Aug30.205801.15188@ra.msstate.edu>

>If you need or want SCSI, I'm sure that several 3rd parties will oblige.

Oh boy! More funky controllers that break at the sight of a tape
drive or CD-ROM (take a bow, GVP et al).

>How many Amiga owners do you know with >100M hard drives?

Pretty much everybody who uses it as more than a game console. You
have one, why assume you're the only person who has a HD that big?

>I'm having trouble filling my 200M HD.

Quick! How much space will a 640x480x8bit planes picture take up?

>I'd also bet that the number of IDE drives being sold for PCs will mean
>that the prices will only get better.

Even the PC world is going SCSI. Which means the prices of SCSI drives
will drop faster than IDE. In 18 months, SCSI drives might even be
cheaper than IDE drives.

>And if you don't need a tape drive or other SCSI devices it will meand that
>the machine is that much more affordable.

That's what I call penny wise and pound foolish. You're going to buy a
multi-thousand dollar computer, and then try to save, what...$50? And
then as soon as you try to get a CD-ROM player, you're running to the
store for a $200 controller that would've been virtually nothing
if included originally. Sorry, but saving $50 on an expensive computer
is a fool's bargain if it comes at the expense of future expandability.

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko

P.S. If your HD is larger than 120M, you *need* a tape streamer. I don't
have the patience or time to sit feeding the thing floppies for 2 hours.
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