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From: jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr)
Subject: Re: RT transplants
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:15:42 GMT

In article <MePqOR600iUO8RmaZ0@andrew.cmu.edu>
	wcw+@CMU.EDU (Walter Wong) writes:

>If this is possible to do, anyone know if the (AOS) X11R5 server
>supports a two headed RT (two apa16s)?

The apa16 card is memory-mapped at a fixed address.  It might be possible to
physically modify the board to remap it.  You would then have to modify the
server software, which knows there is at most one display of each type, at a
certain fixed address.

For your purposes, I expect the answer is "no".

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    John Carr (jfc@athena.mit.edu)
From: loren@cis.ohio-state.edu (Loren Schwiebert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: Looking for NFS for the RT
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:22:04 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Originator: loren@poppy.cis.ohio-state.edu


A friend of mine works for a company that supports software on several
different platforms, one of which is the RT.  He is interested in getting
a copy of NFS for the RT.  Unfortunately, this product has been discontinued
and is no longer available for IBM.

He does not have net access, so he asked me to post this for him.  Preferably,
he would like a dd image of the installation disks, so that he could install
the software.

If someone could e-mail this software to me, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Loren Schwiebert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
From: jchaiken@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jarett  Chaiken)
Subject: Zombie Processes
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 02:16:33 GMT

I have a problem, every so often, one of my processes refuses to be killed
sometimes it also make posts unavailable, others I just cant shutdown.
kill -9 pid doesnt work, and Shutdown just tells me "SOMETHING WONT DIE"
what can I do about this?

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From: rhcoe@buscfg.austin.ibm.com (Rich Coe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: Re: (RT) serial ports at >4800 baud?
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:37:02 GMT
Reply-To: rhcoe@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com (Rich Coe)
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin, TX

In article <0eR3UD200VsnQrw1om@andrew.cmu.edu> Robert Andrew Ryan <rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I am trying to configure some RTs as X terminals to be connected to our
>network via slip.  They are floor models and have two built in serial
>ports, however I have been unable to get reliable results at over 4800
>baud, I get garbage and dropped characters.

I suspect that the RT is overflowing your annex box.  
Or your annex box is overflowing the RT. 

>Also if I have hardware flow control set on in the modem once I connect
>to our annex box it just sits there, if I switch the modem back to
>XON/XOFF and disconnect and re-connect to the modem (before it drops the
>annex connection) I get a bunch of backed up data from the annex.  When
>connected to an RS/6000 9600 baud and hardware flow control seem to work
>ok with the same annex.

Under AIX, it is my understanding that the RT serial port device 
driver does not support hardware flow control.  I have not looked at 
the AOS code, so I am not sure if it suffers the same limitation.

>I seem to remember reading a post here maybe a year ago about the chip
>driving the serial line having only a 1 character buffer, but that it
>was pin compatible with one with a 16 character buffer.  Or was that
>about the 4 port serial card?
>-Rob Ryan

Not sure about that rumor.  

With the VRM/AIX combination, there is quite a bit of buffer space (slack)
to store receiving characters (and its configurable!).  Unfortunately, on
sending, there's no way to throttle the RT.

Regards, Rich Coe
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From: elee373@menudo.uh.edu (J. Zhang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: QIC-02 tape drive controller
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:40:01 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Organization: University of Houston

Could anyone tell me the base address and IRQ# of QIC-02 tape drive
controller for IBM 6157 tape drive?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
From: keith@dickens.com (Keith Devlin)
Subject: Want to purchase RT system
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:09:45 GMT
Organization: Dickens Data Systems, Inc.

Anyone interested in selling an IBM RT system please let me 
know.  Specifically, if you are in the Atlanta, GA area that 
would make things easier, but not required. 

Any model, any processor card, any amount of RAM (or none),
any hard drives (or none).  Interested in 6155 or 5080 monitor 
if available, but I am still interested in a system even if it
does not have a monitor.

Let me know a price and configuration via E-mail.
Thanks,
Keith Devlin 
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From: lizard+@CMU.EDU (Robert Joseph Kuszewski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: What are these?
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:38:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kePL=r600VR581WIMt
Organization: Distributed Workstation Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I have two cards that came in an RT I got recently that I don't know
what they are.  Does anyone know what these are?

IBM 75x8248:  This is a double card with a M68000 on it and a male
d-connector.  8 bit.

ADAX SDMA-PC:  This looks to be some sort of high speed serial card. 
It's 16 bit.

I also have a tape drive that I have no idea about, but I forgot to get
the info off of it this morning.

Thanks.

-Bob
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: Re: serial ports at >4800 baud?
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:13:31 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <weRrcgC00WBw08jnFY@andrew.cmu.edu> John Gardiner Myers <jgm+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>In general, I'd have to say the RT makes a poor SLIP server.

I never had a problem with 19,2kb SLIP using the buffered 4-port card
as long as I ran AOS 4.3 from the Sep '88 release.  The Dec 88 (final)
release, which attempts to split character processing into fast and
slow interrupt routines, seems too smart for its own good.  I never got
overruns on the Sep 88 kernel, but couldn't avoid them on the Dec 88 kernel.


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Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:53:19 -0400 
From: Robert Andrew Ryan <rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: serial ports at >4800 baud?

I am trying to configure some RTs as X terminals to be connected to our
network via slip.  They are floor models and have two built in serial
ports, however I have been unable to get reliable results at over 4800
baud, I get garbage and dropped characters.

Also if I have hardware flow control set on in the modem once I connect
to our annex box it just sits there, if I switch the modem back to
XON/XOFF and disconnect and re-connect to the modem (before it drops the
annex connection) I get a bunch of backed up data from the annex.  When
connected to an RS/6000 9600 baud and hardware flow control seem to work
ok with the same annex.

I seem to remember reading a post here maybe a year ago about the chip
driving the serial line having only a 1 character buffer, but that it
was pin compatible with one with a 16 character buffer.  Or was that
about the 4 port serial card?

Any info greatly appreciated...

Thanks,
-Rob Ryan
From: wcw+@CMU.EDU (Walter Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: RT transplants
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:10:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MePqOR600iUO8RmaZ0
Organization: Software Management, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I figure I might as well ask before I try doing this.... 

I have a desktop E-APC/RT (model 130) with a 310 meg disk(H310).  I am
wondering if I can I "transplant" everything I have in the desktop unit
to a "tower" model RT?  If it matters, the serial numbers on the tower
RTs that I have are 354 and 554 or so. 

If this is possible to do, anyone know if the (AOS) X11R5 server
supports a two headed RT (two apa16s)?

Thanks. 

Walter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
From: buc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Richards)
Subject: Anyone have an X11R5 server [Xibm] ???
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 07:05:04 GMT


Does anyone have an X11R5 server, Xibm, that I can access?  I do not
need any of the clients so maybe someone could just mail the server.

Thanks.

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From: jonesc@ogre.CS.ORST.EDU (Cory Alan Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: RT cards (lots!) and tape drive forsale
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:41:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept


  I have the following cards for an IBM PC RT (model 6150/6151) forsale.   
I don't have any idea how much they are worth, so I will be taking bids  
for the next few days... A "y" in the first column means that the card  
should work fine, if not you can return the card and I will refund your  
money.  A "?" means that I don't know if the card is working, no refunds.

  All sales will be UPS COD, buyer pays shipping.

Y	RT PC 2MB Memory Expansion Option (ECC)
Y	RT PC 1MB Memory Expansion Option (ECC)
Y	RT PC 4MB Enhanced Memory Expansion Option (ECC)
	  This is the fast memory for use with the Advanced Processor
Y	IBM AT 512KB Memory Expansion (I have 2 of these)

Y	RT PC Advanced Processor Board
?	RT PC Advanced floating point board (for use with above...)
Y	RT PC Processor board
Y	RT PC floating point board (for use with above...)
Y	RT PC AT Coprocessor Option (with 80286 and 80287 fpu)

Y	IBM AT Fixed-disk and diskette drive adapter
	  (for 2 diskette drives and 2 hard disk drives)
?	IBM AT Extended ESDI Adapter
	  (for 2 diskette drives and 3 hard disk drives)

Y	RT PC Streaming tape drive adapter (for 6157 tape drive)
Y	RT PC 6157 streaming tape drive (for use with above...)
Y	RT PC Megapel display adapter (for use with 5081 display)
Y	RT PC 4-port asynchronous RS-232C adapter
?	RT PC Baseband adapter (thicknet ethernet)

  
  Cory Jones
  jonesc@ogre.CS.ORST.EDU
  (503) 740-4447 (work - message)
  (503) 754-2806 (home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
From: jchaiken@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jarett  Chaiken)
Subject: For sale
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 02:17:54 GMT

I don't know if this is the right place for it, but it seems ok.  I have a
IBM RT ESDI controller card that I want to get rid of.  Any offers?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: looking for 422A card
From: Eric Schweitzer <ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 14:09:03 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Subject says it all....we need another RS-422A interface card
for a 6150.

Anyone have a pointer to a source? A used one (working, of course)
to sell?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
From: msk@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Mark S. Kassem)
Subject: X windows for the RT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:29:56 GMT

	Hello all

	Is it possible for one of you kind souls out there to point me
	to a site where the X11 binaries for the RT lie.  I badly need
	the X server but I do not have enough space to compile it.
	
	I would appreciate it if some of you tarred their /usr/bin/X11
	and /usr/lib/X11, etc... and sent it to me.  Thank you.


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From: tim@appenzell.cs.wisc.edu (Tim Theisen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: Re: serial ports at >4800 baud?
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:04:08 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

Robert Andrew Ryan <rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> I am trying to configure some RTs as X terminals to be connected to our
> network via slip.  They are floor models and have two built in serial
> ports, however I have been unable to get reliable results at over 4800
> baud, I get garbage and dropped characters.

The device driver in the kernel for the serial ports on the mother board
does not work reliably at speed over 2400 baud.  The device driver needs
to be rewritten (and I doubt that anyone will do it.)

> Also if I have hardware flow control set on in the modem once I connect
> to our annex box it just sits there, if I switch the modem back to
> XON/XOFF and disconnect and re-connect to the modem (before it drops the
> annex connection) I get a bunch of backed up data from the annex.  When
> connected to an RS/6000 9600 baud and hardware flow control seem to work
> ok with the same annex.

The device drivers for either type of serial port did not support hardware
flow control.

> I seem to remember reading a post here maybe a year ago about the chip
> driving the serial line having only a 1 character buffer, but that it
> was pin compatible with one with a 16 character buffer.  Or was that
> about the 4 port serial card?

The AT Serial/Parallel card and the 4 port (unbufferd) card uses a NS16450
uart.  This can be replaced with a NS16550AFN.  (I just clipped the old
uart out of an AT Serial/Parallel card and soldered in a socket and inserted
the NS16550AFN into the socket.)  This will provide reliable connections
up to 9600 baud.  To achieve even faster speeds, compile the kernel with
the a new copy of asy.c that was hacked over by Peter Honeyman and then
lightly modified by me.  The new chip and software together reliably handle
38,400 bps and hardware flow control.

Hope this helps, ...Tim

          Tim Theisen           Systems Programmer
Internet: tim@cs.wisc.edu       Department of Computer Sciences
    UUCP: uwvax!tim             University of Wisconsin-Madison
   Phone: (608)262-0438         1210 West Dayton Street
     FAX: (608)262-9777         Madison, WI   53706
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
From: tim@appenzell.cs.wisc.edu (Tim Theisen)
Subject: Re: serial ports at >4800 baud?
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:20:08 GMT

John Gardiner Myers <jgm+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> In general, I'd have to say the RT makes a poor SLIP server.

I have to disagree strongly with this statement.  With the right hardware
and software the slip performance is excellent.  Here is my setup.

I have and RT at home.  I took an IBM AT Serial/Parallel card and replaced
the NS16450 with an NS16550AFN.  I ported Van Jacobson's compressed slip and
installed a new asy device driver from Peter Honeyman.  I connect to work
via two WorldBlazer V.32bis modems with V.42 and V.42bis turned on.  If I
ftp a /etc/termcap, ftp reports a transfer rate of 2kbytes/second in either
direction.  The modems are locked in at 38,400 bps with hardware flow control
on.

I usually use local xterms and rlogin to hosts at work.  However, I find it
more convenient to use xmh at work and display at home.  I don't mind waiting
a couple of seconds with wxmap draws the current weather map either.

I can give limited advice on how to achieve the same success.

Hope this helps,  ...Tim

          Tim Theisen           Systems Programmer
Internet: tim@cs.wisc.edu       Department of Computer Sciences
    UUCP: uwvax!tim             University of Wisconsin-Madison
   Phone: (608)262-0438         1210 West Dayton Street
     FAX: (608)262-9777         Madison, WI   53706
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: jmh@coyote.datalog.com (John Hughes)
Subject: Need info on WD RLL controller card
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Keywords: Western digital wd1002-27x rll 
Organization: Random, at best...
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 21:24:19 GMT


Greetings, howdy, and all that...

After rummaging through a junk box in the ol' "magic closet", I came upon
an RLL controller card, WD1002-27X. I'd like to use it in an AT type PC,
but the card only has an 8-bit bus interface. It does, however, have a
jumper that sets "AT Mode". Could someone illuminate me about this jumper
and what it does? (it's SW1, jumper 8)

Many profuse thanks and mystic chants offered on your behalf in advance.


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From: mimperat@cs.dal.ca (Marco Imperatore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer
Subject: PIC (8259)
Keywords: PIC, Master, Slave, Cascading, Interrupts, IRQ
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:42:29 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

Can anyone point me to information regarding the Programmable Interrupt
Controller(8259)?  I have looked at the helppc package but it is not
sufficient.  I need a basic description of the master/slave paradigm
and how different IRQ #s are mapped to different interrupt #s.  Is
cascading related to the master/slave paradigm?

I would prefer online information and/or programming examples.

Please reply by e-mail since I don't read this group regularly.

Thanks...
marco.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,alt.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt)
Subject: Re: DOS Kernel/COMMAND.COM
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:46:41 GMT

resnicks@netcom.com (Steve Resnick) writes:
>After DOS 3.0 the .EXE loader is in the DOS Kernel (MSDOS.SYS) instead of
>COMMAND.COM. The things you need to handle: INT 23 - Control C, INT 24 -
>Critical Errors (this is fun, believe me.) Depending on how you do your
>I/O and what you are going to run under, you may want to execute INT 28
>(DOS Idle) when waiting for input. I have written a shell replacement for
>DOS, and it works fairly well (at least my interface to DOS does. The 
>code has a lot of malloc/calloc errors). If you need some assistance
>feel free to ask  :) 


>Cheers!
>Steve

	Here's something I've wondered about:  When you write a shell
replacement, how do you set up the master environment?  Did you just
malloc some memory and then adjust the correct pointer in your PSP to
point to it?

Thanks,
Heath

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,alt.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: resnicks@netcom.com (Steve Resnick)
Subject: Re: DOS Kernel/COMMAND.COM
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:05:32 GMT
Organization: What? Me organized? You should see my checkbook!
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul29.213404.22198@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cnanayak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chevan Nanayakkara @ Nyx) writes:
>I was wondering if someone could help me locate some information about writing
>a command.com replacement for DOS.  I've read through all my books and they
>pretty much say "create a .COM file assign it to the SHELL environment variable
>and from there it is a substitute for COMMAND.COM", pretty rotten advice.  I'd
>like to know what services I'd have to take care of and how.  Also how do I 
>find a list of what internal services command.com performs.  I've got some code
>I'm plugging through but if someone can point me in the direction of some text
>I would appreciate it very much.  I've never done a lot of systems programming
>before so something lucid would be nice (although that is probably asking a
>lot).  Thanks very much in advance,
>--
>---Tear Here Please
>Chevan (Sleepy) Nanayakkara  -  csnanaya@cadehp0.eng.utah.edu - best
>or chevan.nanayakkara@m.cc.utah.edu or cnanayak@nyx.cs.du.edu
>Posting from NYX! - The *BEST* Public Access NEWS site in the Universe :-).


After DOS 3.0 the .EXE loader is in the DOS Kernel (MSDOS.SYS) instead of
COMMAND.COM. The things you need to handle: INT 23 - Control C, INT 24 -
Critical Errors (this is fun, believe me.) Depending on how you do your
I/O and what you are going to run under, you may want to execute INT 28
(DOS Idle) when waiting for input. I have written a shell replacement for
DOS, and it works fairly well (at least my interface to DOS does. The 
code has a lot of malloc/calloc errors). If you need some assistance
feel free to ask  :) 


Cheers!
Steve

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,alt.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: cnanayak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chevan Nanayakkara @ Nyx)
Subject: DOS Kernel/COMMAND.COM
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:34:04 GMT

I was wondering if someone could help me locate some information about writing
a command.com replacement for DOS.  I've read through all my books and they
pretty much say "create a .COM file assign it to the SHELL environment variable
and from there it is a substitute for COMMAND.COM", pretty rotten advice.  I'd
like to know what services I'd have to take care of and how.  Also how do I 
find a list of what internal services command.com performs.  I've got some code
I'm plugging through but if someone can point me in the direction of some text
I would appreciate it very much.  I've never done a lot of systems programming
before so something lucid would be nice (although that is probably asking a
lot).  Thanks very much in advance,
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or chevan.nanayakkara@m.cc.utah.edu or cnanayak@nyx.cs.du.edu
Posting from NYX! - The *BEST* Public Access NEWS site in the Universe :-).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,alt.msdos.programmer