HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ky04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KUN YU)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: DrawPerfect to print on HP500c?
Date: 25 Dec 92 21:27:20 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

How can I print DrawPerfect graphs on HP DeskJet 500c? 
This printer is not listed in the Print/Setup/Type/OtherDisk list 
with DrawPerfect 1.1. If I save DR as a .pcx file and import it to Windows'
Paintbrush and then print, the text is too ugly.
-- 



                            
ky04@lehigh.edu            
KYu, BioProcessing Institute
111 Lehigh University       
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: cs421246@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs421246)
Subject: Re: geos.ini
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 16:28:21 GMT

Thanks Shag. I went through a little panic - wait a minute, wasn't I
looking at this file in notepad and now I can't!!! 

Where can I get info about geos.ini? I regularily use a sparc at work
and would like to configure geos to look a little more familiar!
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Posting to FTP sites
Date: 4 Jan 93 00:46:12 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

wcs0830@ucs.usl.edu (Segura William C) writes:

>I would like to post the Geobytes Newsletter from AOL to a GeoWorks site.  
>How do I do this?  All I have managed to do was post to the Uploads 
>directory and not the GW mirror directory.

I believe one of the FAQ segments lists the address for the person in 
charge of the Geoworks mirror directory on SIMTEL-20... You might also
consider just posting it to comp.os.msdos.pcgeos or PCGEOS-LIST (whichever
one you receive).

-Shag

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Dougherty and Pen Computing
Date: 22 Dec 92 05:09:00 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell) writes:

>Anyways, just as an aside... Brian gives presentations and/or in on
>conference panels quite often.  If you get a chance to attend, I'd highly
>recommend it.

Reiterating my earlier request - if anyone _does_ get the chance to attend
such conferences, panels, seminars, etc., I'm sure I'm not the only person
here who'd be delighted to see any interesting information posted in full
or summarized.  (Wishing GeoWorks had a conference-transcripts fax number
or something, but not expecting one from a company of their size.)

-Shag

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From: simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: geos.ini
Summary: Did I break geos.ini?
Date: 24 Dec 92 12:40:05 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond


I have been unsuccessful in loading geos.ini into the notepad. It
indicates it is in use. I am a little concerned since I was modifying
the file (could have been outside GEOS) and fear I screwed something
up. I reran install, thinking it would restore the file, before I
learned that there is a backup of geos.ini which in system which
install overwrites. Should I be able to load geos.ini into the
notepad? If so, how can I restore my desktop (short of reinstalling
all of GEOS)?

BTW, is geos.ini documented anywhere for "the rest of us?" and are
there any other window managers available (perhaps with a virtual
desktop)

thanx in advance

Don
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: GeoWorks advertising (Re: Dry spell)
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:42:34 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

johnlee@crash.cts.com (John Wiley) writes:

>If you're desperate for GW news like me, perhaps you'll find this 
>interesting.  There's a half page ad for GW Pro in Quicknews ... Since 
>there's a Windoze version of Quicken, that leads to the faint hope this 
>leading software will come out with a GW version.  On the other hand, 
>the bottom half of the page is an ad for Prodigy.  :<

If it was an ad for America OnLine, I'd think that it might have something
to do with it, but Prodigy and GEOS are pretty unrelated (If I were GEOS,
I wouldn't even want to be on the same page as Prodigy ;) ... 
If this is an actual GeoWorks advertisement (and not a vendor-placed one),
maybe someone from GeoWorks <closes eyes, spins around, and points at...
John!> could fill us in on whether GeoWorks has started ramping up their
advertising campaign toward the release of 2.0, or whether they've been
advertising in specific periodicals all along and we just never noticed! :)

-Shag

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From: simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: GEOS backgrounds
Date: 29 Dec 92 04:09:10 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

I downloaded ensembul.zip and piclb183.zip to convert some .gif files
into backgrounds but I must be missing something.

After remaping and resizing the .gif files, how do I convert them into
the correct .pic format so GEOS sees them as valid backgrounds?

Maybe I should just drive the mouse and ignore the fun things?#$##

thanx to any light shedders
don
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor)
Subject: Re: How do you use GEOS? How would you like to use v2?
Reply-To: doug-taylor+@osu.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:34:29 GMT

In article <1h94o3INNl5v@golem.wcc.govt.nz> harvey_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>I for one don't think it should be in the OS.. My idea is that all hardware
>interfacing of any sort should be handled by drivers, and that
>includes comms
>In that way, you could choose from a list of drivers, same as you
>choose from a 
>list of printers, a list of soundcards, or any other hardware interface.  That
>way *any* comms package would have access to the comm ports, TCP/IP, aome of
>those fancy multi-port interface boards, and stuff on other types of networks,
>and any new type of comms that anyone may care to invent in the future.... 
>This way you would have a standard 'comms' object, ant the programs wouldnt
>know or care what they were actualy connected to.

Hmmm...  Never thought of putting comm stuff in drivers.  Sounds
interesting.  Third parties could write 'em for protocols and hardware
that the Geofolks don't have time to do.

I agree, though, that there should be a standard "comm" object that
GeoComm and other terminal programs use on one end and that various
telecomm equipment can use on the other.

-- 
   Doug Taylor                         |   Nothing real can be threatened.
   The Ohio State University           |   Nothing unreal exists.
   doug-taylor+@osu.edu                |            - A Course in Miracles
From: monfreda@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Fun whit disk-compression ...
Date: 31 Dec 92 11:44:22 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Fun with disk-compression (Re: geos broken)

>Do disk compression utilities like SSTOR not work with GEOS? I do not
>recall the manual talking about not using them!

I've GeoWorks on an IBM AT with DR DOS 6.0 and SuperSTOR (included with 
DR DOS) since more than a year (I think) and newer had any problems, even 
with a HD that was almost full. I hope GW 2.0 will work so well too.

 Massimo

----

Massimo Monfreda, Institut fuer Physik, Univeritaet Basel (Switzerland)

  ==>>  monfreda@phys.unibas.ch
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Fun with disk-compression (Re: geos broken)
Date: 31 Dec 92 03:05:12 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard) writes:

>Do disk compression utilities like SSTOR not work with GEOS? I do not
>recall the manual talking about not using them!

Disk compression utilities work as well with GEOS as they work with any 
other software.  Unfortunately, it's relatively simple to make SSTOR,
for example, puke.  [This is why I don't use it.]

When you set up SSTOR, it expects to actually achieve the degree of
compression you specify.  So, if you have a 50mb drive, and tell it to
use 2x compression, it thinks it has 100mb.

What would happen, though, if you really only got 1.5x compression?
Bingo.  You get 75mb worth of stuff onto the drive (compressed 1.5x to
fit in a 50mb space), and SSTOR realizes that even though it's got 25mb
of "logical drive" left, the _physical_ drive is full.

Its method of dealing with this is simple - mark the remaining 25mb as
bad blocks.  So, wham-o, you've got a drive that's not only full, but
has 25mb worth of disk errors.  Of course, the _physical_ drive doesn't
have 25mb worth of disk errors, but SSTOR isn't looking at that. :)

Troubleshooting, Tips, and Extra Features, p.27:

"GeoWorks Ensemble should run with disk compression programs, such as 
 Stacker or DoubleDisk, on most computer systems.  However, like disk
 caches, disk compression programs place heavy demands on your system -
 demands that may lead to system errors or even damaged files.
 
"If you encounter problems using GeoWorks Ensemble on a system with a
 disk compression program, try installing it on a non-compressed disk.
 If that doesn't work, try using GeoWorks Ensemble without the disk-
 compression software loaded."

If possible, you may want to consider installing GEOS in a non-SSTOR'd
directory or logical drive, and using a compressed directory or drive
for data files.  Most data files created by GeoDraw will compress
nicely, but it's safer to leave your system files uncompressed (IMO).

-Shag

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: The Adventures of Shag, in the GeoComm Dimension....
Keywords: Debugging without a Debugger.  Ack Ptooie.
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 00:29:25 GMT

In article <Dec.26.15.10.15.1992.13305@pilot.njin.net> birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:
>birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:
[...Shag's masochistic side...]

Man, you must really like to torture yourself...  :-)

First a disclaimer... I'm (quite happily :-) ignorant about the internals
of GeoComm.  The information given below will be vehemently denied if
attempted to be attached to me in any manner and is provided 'as is' with
no promise of it even being true, let alone useful in any way.  :-) :-)

In your (Shag) modified vt100.tc file, you should probably move the
definition for command 40 to be the first command since it is a superset of
commands that happen to precede it.  I believe this is a general problem
that should be kept in mind and avoided when/if you muck about.

GeoComm supposedly only looks for a semi-colon as comment delimiter if it's
the *first* line in the file and should be usable elsewhere in the file
without problems (but who know? :-).  Therefore the various commented
versions of the .tc files should probably not work.

Hope this helps and happy holidays to everyone,
					John
					johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU

P.S.	Read the disclaimer paragraph above again.  My words, my
	responsibilty.  GeoWorks speaks for itself.
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: The Adventures of Shag, in the GeoComm Dimension....
Keywords: Debugging without a Debugger.  Ack Ptooie.
Date: 26 Dec 92 20:10:15 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:

>The VT-100 "cs" (change scroll region) command is still the only documented
>culprit.  If you are on a unix box, "echo '^[[1;24r'" can be a whole load of
>fun.  (the ^[[ is gotten by hitting CTRL-V then ESC, by the way.)  Typical
>results include random selections from the GeoCrash Jukebox.

Oops, I gaffed.  "^[[1;24r" actually might not cause problems too frequently,
since, well, all it's saying is "okay, let's go back to using the whole 
24-line screen" which is what GeoComm wants to do anyway.  "^[[2;24r" through
"^[[5;24r" seem to be Bad Things, though.  Codes with higher values in the
first increment/integer position don't cause problems for me in VI under
Screen, but echoed from the command line they tend to cause undesirable
behaviour from GeoComm.

A question for John - you stated that GeoWorks doesn't intend to add any new
features to GeoComm for 2.0 - would fixing whatever causes this behaviour be
considered adding a feature, or would that fall under bug-fixes?  If it falls
under bug-fixes, any chance they'll do it? :)

As usual,
	-Shag

'Twas the day after Christmas,
And all through the net,
Not a creature was stirring,
All hung over, I'll bet...


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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 19:36:14 GMT
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Subject: Re: geos.ini

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cs421246@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs421246) writes:

>Where can I get info about geos.ini? I regularily use a sparc at work
>and would like to configure geos to look a little more familiar!

There are some "hints and tips" files floating around (mainly on America
Online) - I've seen excerpts of one of them, and some of the tips deal with
geos.ini.  I don't know whether you can make GEOS's GUI look like a Sparc
though (at least, not at this time, I haven't heard of a specific GUI that
looks like anything other than Motif or Mac)... There are a lot of neat
things you can set in geos.ini, though...  Here are excerpts from my own.

applianceroom = false		<- Intermediate mode is never offered.
firstlookroom = false		<- Beginner mode is never offered.

dosAssociations = {
	*.GIF = C:\UTILITY\VPIC.EXE	<- double-click a GIF, it displays.
	*.ZIP = C:\UTILITY\UNZIP.EXE	<- double-click a ZIP, it unzips.
}

confirmDelete = true		<- I'm probably going to change some of these
confirmReadOnly = true		<- to FALSE so that it doesn't prompt me 
confirmReplace = true		<- before every file when I'm deleting many.
minimizeOnRun = false		<- You can minimize GeoManager when you start
				   any other app.

A friend of mine got a big tip file which he might eventually mail me, if he
does, I'll post it.

-Shag

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From: fsbrn@brl.mil (Ferd S. Brundick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: GeoWorks mentioned again
Keywords: review
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:10:24 GMT
Reply-To: fsbrn@brl.mil
Organization: Army Research Laboratory

Sorry I didn't post this earlier, but I misplaced the magazine :-)

The November 92 issue of _Home Office Computing_ (Building Better
Businesses with Technology) has an article titled 'Do Integrated
Packages Really Give You The "Works"?'  After a page or so of
background info they give thumbnail reviews of 9 DOS, 3 Windoze, and 5
Mac integrated packages.

Since this is the GeoWorks newsgroup (I didn't cross-post) I won't
bother to list all the ratings.  Alas, while LotusWorks v3.0 was the
only DOS package to get 4 stars, GeoWorks Pro v1.2 was rated 2 stars.
(It could have been worse, DeskMate v3.05 (blech) was on the bottom
with 1.5 and the closing line "If you need to begin being productive
immediately, look elsewhere.")

I won't repeat the entire GW blurb since we're all familar with the
package.  The mag says "... GeoWorks Pro runs under DOS but offers a
graphic interface similar to that of the Macintosh.  And while PC/GEOS
doesn't offer the same extensive third-party support as Windows does,
it offers many of the same user benefits as the Microsoft product."  

After talking about the different levels (beginner, etc) it ends with
"...  unfortunately, the supplied GeoWorks modules (except for Quattro
Pro) might prove too elementary for many small-business owners.
However, though they offer few features, the modules are simple and
easy to use.  If your computer needs are basic and your computer isn't
powerful enough to run Windows, GeoWorks Pro can be a bright software
solution."

In the closing remarks, the authors say "At the low end in the
IBM-compatible market, it's hard to beat Microsoft Works. ... The
LotusWorks interface emulates the look and feel of a graphical
environment like Windows well, but without that popular GUI's high
hardware demands.  In fact, LotusWorks' performance on a
first-generation PC/XT, although it won't set any speed records, is
quite acceptable."  I should point out that a 286 or better is
recommended by Lotus.

To be fair, I'm surprised _Home Office_ even knew about GW.  If it had
some third-party business packages that fit the home office niche I'm
sure it would have been rated higher.  The newest issue of _HO_ has an
article about 486 machines, so perhaps the editors feel if you are
starting a business you're going to buy a 386 or 486 with Windoze
bundled in and then buy MicroSloth Office or (their preferred package
in this article) Enable 4.5.

Heck, they didn't even mention the games that come with GW :-)

                                        dsw, fferd
                                        Fred S. Brundick
                                        USARL, APG, MD.
                                        <fsbrn@brl.mil>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: mch@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Michael Hermann)
Subject: Geoworks 1.1 and DRDOS 6.0
Summary: problem w/ DR DOS 6.0
Keywords: problem w/ DR DOS 6.0
Organization: Technical University of Munich, Germany
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:31:00 GMT

Hello,

since I have installed DR DOS 6.0 (formerly MS DOS 4.01) I cannot
leave Geoworks (1.1) in a normal way. Most of the time I get
a white box (Division by 0) with the option to leave "normal".
If I do so, the box disappears but the DOS-Prompt does not 
appear. If I enter <ctrl-alt-del>, the computer does NOT boot,
but I get the DOS-prompt. 
A less replicable error occurs when saving a file under a 
different name (from Geowrite). Sometimes the above procedure
happens. 
As I had never a problem with MS DOS, I suspect a problem with
DR-DOS. I have removed all questionable entries from config.sys,
including FASTOPEN and EMM386. This was requested by my distributor,
but it didn't help.

Can someone give me a clue what is going on?

Best regards,

Michael Hermann

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor)
Subject: Re: GEOS backgrounds
Reply-To: doug-taylor+@osu.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:52:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.181000.20386@afterlife.ncsc.mil> simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard) writes:
>I did an archie on graphics workshop but only found references to
>GNU's graphics-0.17.tar.Z which if I am not mistaken is for UNIX
>workstations. Which Graphics Workshop were you refering to?

As of last Monday, the filename was GRFWK61T.ZIP.  Two good sites to
try are wuarchive.wustl.edu and oak.oakland.edu.  (I forgot that not
everybody keeps Simtel's complete file listing on their hard drive. :-)

>btw what do I resize the .gif files to?

Start up Preferences and click on the Video Button.  You will see what
video driver you're currently using and what its resolution is.
Common sizes are 800x600 (SVGA), 640x480 (VGA), 640x400 (VGA), 640x350
(EGA), and 640x200 (CGA).  16 colors is the max available as yet.

-- 
   Doug Taylor                         |   Nothing real can be threatened.
   The Ohio State University           |   Nothing unreal exists.
   doug-taylor+@osu.edu                |            - A Course in Miracles
From: wcs0830@ucs.usl.edu (Segura William C)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Posting to FTP sites
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:40:46 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette



I would like to post the Geobytes Newsletter from AOL to a GeoWorks site.  How do I do this?  All I have managed to do was post to the Uploads directory and not
the GW mirror directory.

If any body is interested, I will post the Newsletters sometime in the middle ofJanuary.  This is a must read for all those who are not members of America Online.


William  
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: HERMES_EM@mcchord-lognet.af.mil
Subject: No subject entered
Reply-To: <pcgeos-list@pandora.sf.ca.us>
Organization: Pandora Systems	
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:35:45 GMT
Originator: pcgeos-list@pandora.sf.ca.us

SIGNOFF PCGEOS-LIST Eric Hermes

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