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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Using the Indigo centronics port [ db25 reset pin # ]
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 03:37:48 GMT

In <2589@ceylon.gte.com> mcgraw@fermat.gte.com (Stuart McGraw) writes:

| Hope I'm not beating a dead horse here but....
| 
| In article <qift7es@zuni.esd.sgi.com> Dave Olson writes:
| | In <2568@ceylon.gte.com> mcgraw@fermat.gte.com (Stuart McGraw) writes:
| | | 	I have some questions about using the centronics printer port 
| | | on an Indigo.  What I want to do is use the centronics port as a general 
| | | parallel i/o port, i.e read (and possibly later write) 8 bits of data 
| | | from an external device of my own contruction.
| | 
| | Can't do it.  The logic isn't there in the chip.
|  
| Not even if I supply the strobe/ack signals etc?  I quite willing to
| make my device look as much like a printer as neccessary.  (I shouldn't 
| have used the word "general" in my posting.)

Yes, if you are willing to make your device follow the centronics
'spec' (there is no official spec, of course, just de facto 'standards'
that are rather fuzzy in some areas, you should be able to make it work.
Of course, in that case, it shouldn't be much work from a programming
point of view.  You will need to use an ioctl to enable bidirectional
mode.

Also, the bidirectional mode doesn't work just like a PC; it was
designed to work with a Ricoh scanner (IS11), and we later found out
that there are some differences between that and most PC's; future
products with a builtin parallel port should be somewhat more
flexible.

| I'd be happy with just a description of what sort of control signals 
| are neccessary to get the Indigo one to read or write.

I'm not enough of a hardware engineer to know, and it is rather
hard (for me) to describe the timing diagrams.  Perhaps you can
find a PC hardware manual (or PC printer) that shows the timing 
diagrams; they should be fairly close.

| | | The man plp manpage gives the signal assignments for pins 1-31.  If
| | | the DB25 is the printer port, then how are the 31 pins mapped to the 
| | | DB25 pins?  
| | 
| | The 'NC' pins at the end are the ones not on the DB25.
| 
| What DB25 pin is the reset (pin 31 in the manpage) signal line on?

Pin 16 of the DB25 connector.  Pins 18-25 look in the schematic as
though they are tied to ground.

| And thanks again...
| 							-- Stu

Sorry it took so long.  I had to wait until I had time to read
news at work and then go look at the schematics.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: 3rd Party System Disk for Indigo?
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:57:11 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <LAU.92Sep30172708@avila.ai.sri.com> lau@avila.ai.sri.com (Stephen Lau) writes:
| Does anyone know how or if it is possible to use an
| external drive as the system drive on an Indigo? We
| have one Indigo and want to get another, and we want to
| attach one large external drive to it and use it as its
| only disk. Is this possible? 

Sure, there is nothing magic about having it internal.
To keep life simple, and OS upgrades more painless, I would
definitely recommend that you keep it as SCSI ID #1 though.

Just be sure you keep your SCSI cabling short, of high quality,
and that the last external device is terminated.
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Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story)
Subject: Re: HP-LJIIISI on SGis via TCP-IP
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 01:50:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.184122.117@gems.vcu.edu> jscarsdale@gems.vcu.edu writes:
>At Virginia Commonwealth University/Medical College of Va, we have an
>HP laser Jet IIIsi that we would like to share between a group of
>Silicon Graphics workstations and a Macintosh.  Currently we have
>an apple local talk card in the IIIsi which is connected directly
>to the Macintosh.  We would like to share the IIIsi with the
>unix workstations.  One of my coworkers was wondering if this would
>be possible by using a TCP-IP ethernet card in the IIIsi.  

Am I missing something, or couldn't you just hook the IIISi to the
SGI's via the builtin serial or parallel port, and simultaneously
accept jobs on the LocalTalk card you've already got in it?

Cheers,

David Story                        	        Silicon Graphics, Inc.
story@bent.wpd.sgi.com				Mountain View, California

I've changed my name, so duis@sgi.com may bounce, please use story@sgi.com.
From: kunz@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 4.0.5 and mount
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:26:15 GMT
Reply-To: kunz@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

I have just upgraded our 4D35's to 4.0.5 and found to my dismay that
users may no longer use `mount' and `umount' to mount and unmount
our MO disk. The message I get is
must be root to use mount.
Is there any easy way around this?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Sara Kunz
Brandeis Univ., Waltham, MA
From: pj@sam.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: inst making GID 9999
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:20:12 GMT
Reply-To: pj@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Research & Development

In article <1992Sep28.080140.18887@crow.omni.co.jp>, trich@crow.omni.co.jp (Timothy Richards) writes:
|> 
|> Occasionally I have a problem with inst where it makes millions
|> of files with GID set to 9999. 

Must be something amiss with the /etc/group file on the target
system receiving the installation.  Inst keeps the desired
user/group to own each file as the string names in the
distribution.  For example, a file might be marked as owned
by "root"/"sys".  Inst then uses the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
files on the target system to translate to numeric uid/gid.
If it can't translate one of them, it uses 9999 by default.

So I'd guess your /etc/group file was missing or messed up.

-- 

				I won't rest till it's the best ...
				Software Production Engineer
				Paul Jackson (pj@sgi.com), x1373
From: fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: MOTIF Construction Set ?
Keywords: MOTIF
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:45:09 GMT

|Is there any Public Domain Resource Construction Set for MOTIF ?

|Thank you in advance,
|Wilfried

There is a program called dirt that may be along the lines of
what you want, judge for yourself ... from the README:

... Begin dirt.README ...

[stuff deleted]

This builder allows the interactive creation and rapid prototyping of X user
interfaces using the X Toolkit and a number of Widget Sets.  Dirt generates
"Wc - Widget Creation" resource files and this distribution also includes the
Widget Creation Library (version 1.06, with the exception of the demos and
Mri/Ari source code) with the kind permission of its author David E. Smyth.

Dirt does not contain a UI programming language and therefore has certain
"dynamic" limitations compared with other user interface systems.  However it
has the advantage that objects are simple to create and manipulate using
direct manipulation techniques often found in modern drawing editors.
The use of "Wc" allows some UI dynamics to be specified interactively and
makes dirt slightly more than a UI Layout Editor.

Dirt will now work with X11R4 or X11R5.  Dirt requires X11 Release 4
with all 18 published patches installed (i.e. it will not work without
the patched Xt Intrinsics).  See the README in the distribution details
on building and installing Dirt.

Currently Dirt supports the Athena Widget Set, my (Xukc) Widget Set and
the 2-D HP Widget Set.  In future releases I plan to support both the
Motif(TM) and OPEN LOOK(TM) Widget Sets (Xt Intrinsics allowing).
Addition of single widget classes is straightforward and typically only
requires an additional entry in an internal table (see
./Dirt/dirt_editor/DOC/add_classes.txt).

[more stuff deleted]

... End dirt.README ...

No motif yet, but close.

Cheers,

Fred
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From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Question on IO3 version -005
Date: 26 Sep 92 04:09:58 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Sep25.182201.3656@ultra.com>, trentf@ultra.com (Trent Fierro) writes:
> Can anyone at SGI tell me what was changed in the IO3 board that
> made it change from a -004 rev B to a -005 rev B?
> 
> I have a customer who received the -005 board and the system is now having
> problems seeing an Ultra card.

I know of no incompatibilities.  Did they change SW release at the
same time?  Drivers do need updating for 4.0.2+ from earlier revs.

jeremy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman)
Subject: PhotoCD vs Tahiti
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:35:50 GMT

I just noticed in the back of PC Week mag/rag a company that
will sell a "bare bones" Tahiti I (Maxoptix) MO drive for $1,295.
(They claim a 35 ms access time for this drive BTW).

We already have 2 SGI/Toshiba CD-ROM drives in the lab but would
like to buy an MO drive. We probably wouldn't REALLY need a MO
drive until next summer so we don't have to make a decision yet.
Should we wait and buy a PhotoCD drive for our Indigos? What kind
of advantages do the cognoscenti believe a PhotoCD worm drive
will offer over a typical MO drive like the Maxoptix Tahiti? Basically
we need to store large data files and images which can be done
with a Tahiti. But maybe a PhotoCD will allow us to do this
better?

Thanks.

-- 
David M. Senseman (senseman@lonestar.utsa.edu)
Division of Life Sciences
The University of Texas at San Antonio 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: oster@well.sf.ca.us (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: Advice for Color Scanner for Indigo ???
Keywords: Scanner
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: comp.sys.sgi
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:01:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.124901.12624@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> hshamans@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harry T Shamansky) writes:
>   I wanted to see if there were some suggestions for a color
>   scanner to connect to an Indigo.  My requirements are mostly
>   tame; I would like roughly 8 bits/color, and 300-400 dpi.
Starting november 1, I'm going to be selling a very nice SCSI scanner
for SGI: 8 bits/color, 50 to 600 dpi. The introductory price is going to be
$1990.00 plus tax and shipping. Mail to me for more information.
From: trump@i33s3.ira.uka.de (Wilfried Trump)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: monitor cable specification needed
Date: 30 Sep 1992 18:37:15 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: i33s3.ira.uka.de
Keywords: monitor cable

We need three 15m long monitor and keyboard cables for our 4D25 and Indigos.
Can anybody tell me the names or specifications of these cables?
What's the maximum length?
How expensive are such cables?
Where can I buy such cables (preferably in Germany)?

Thank you very much in advance,
Wilfried
From: adaptive@cs.nps.navy.mil (zyda res acct)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: PROM level password???
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:38:13 GMT

When I try to get into the PROM level on my Indigo through the system
maintenance menu I am prompted for a password. The problem is that I
never installed any passwords on the system since it came from SGI. I
perform all the systems admin duties so there isn't anyone else that
could have installed it. So, does anyone know how to get around this
password in order to get to the PROM level?

george dabrowski

dabro@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: senseman@lucy.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman)
Subject: Tahati I, $1,295
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:50:07 GMT

A few days ago I mentioned an ad for Maxoptix's Tahiti I drives
that were selling for $1,295. Since a number of persons have written
to me for more information, I thought I would post the ad here:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Maxoptix Tahiti-1 Optical Drives

What are you waiting for? Optical technology is
here to stay! A special purchase lets us sell these
factory REFURISHED drives at incredible prices. These
quick eraseable units are faster than many hard drives!

# Uses 650 MB (ISO) or 1 GB (Maxoptix) cartridges
# Quick SCSI Interface
# 35ms access time!
Bare internal drive.........................$1,295!
External tower drive........................$1,495!

Corporate Systems Center (CSC)
730 North Pastoria Ave.
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
(408) 737-7312
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Please note that I have no connection with this company and I 
have NOT bought anything from them in the past. I have no way
of knowing if this is a good or a bad deal. Maybe someone who
has direct experience with this company and/or with reburbished
Tahiti drives might care to comment? BTW, isn't there a low-end 
workstation vendor in Sunnyvale? ;-)
-- 
David M. Senseman, Ph.D.      |   A man who has never gone to school may steal 
(senseman@lonestar.utsa.edu)  |   from a freight car; but if he has a university
Division of Life Sciences     |   education, he may steal the whole railroad.
UT San Antonio                |             Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:21:03 EDT
From: <KJB6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,psu.comp.sgi
Subject: Graphics Plotting Packages ???

What are some of the better (if any) graphics plotting packages that run on
the SGI machines? I am looking for XY Graphs, contour plotting, pie charts,
etc....

Are there any packages available via ftp or through software vendors?

Any help/ideas would be appreciated.


Ken Bauer
Systems Analyst      kjb6@psuvm.psu.edu
PENN. STATE - ERIE, The Behrend College
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar)
Subject: How to synchronize time on two SGI computers ?
Organization: IKE
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:41:22 GMT



   Hey,

   we want to synchronize the time of our two SGI computers,
   running IRIX 4.04. Exists there any comfortable possibilities to
   do this ? Please mail me your informations !

   Thanks for your efforts,

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From: mmcohen@cats.ucsc.edu (Michael M Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: R4k Indigo memory
Date: 5 Oct 1992 08:30:49 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


>In article <qjomcv4@zuni.esd.sgi.com> olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:
>>In <32863@adm.brl.mil> blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov (Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB) writes:
>>|       4D/3X & Indigo, 32MB Kit (KSG32/RPC) $1300 (Part #:KTM-32/MM3) (Oct. '92)
>>|       Indigo R4000 32MB Kit (KSG32/R40) $1100 (Oct. '92)
>>|       Indigo R4000 64MB Kit (KSG64/R40) $2300 (Oct. '92)
>>
>>Not to accuse Impediment of anything, but one of our marketing folks
>>brought some 3rd party r4k indigo memory into our lab the other day
>> ... (possible bad memory story)

To Impediment's credit, We had 16meg from them in our 310vgx
which failed to work after crimson upgrade. Our
FE said that it was possibly due to a missing line
which affected some earlier Impediment sims. 
Alex at Impediment confirmed this at when I called
at 5pm pacific and shipped us a replacement which we
had the next morning. From my discussions with Alex,
I would say he really understands SGI memory and sims.
	Cheers, MMCohen
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From: flash@austin.lockheed.com (James W. Melton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: SCSI bus length question
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:34:40 GMT
Organization: "Lockheed Austin Division, 6800 Burleson Rd, Austin, TX 78744


We have a V35 (VME-based) with an IRIS tower for additional SCSI
devices. Our system has a QIC-150 tape drive and a 1.2GB disk in
the internal bays, an 8500 8mm tape and 3 1.2GB disks in the IRIS
tower.

The disk space in the tower is reserved for our database
application (using Sybase); currently only one disk is in use. The
other disks will be added when the application goes into production
use.

The problem: the 8mm was a late addition to the system. At first,
it did not seem to work, failing very early into nightly "dump"
backups. Finally, however, we traced the problem to the last disk
in the tower. This never-been-used disk failed (refused to show up
in hinv or fx). Removing the disk from the tower fixed the tape
drive problem. Backups now work flawlessly.

The question: is it possible that there is a SCSI problem here? The
disk can't be repaired (replaced), because we are in a secure area and
magnetic media doesn't go out. No one has come up with the $$ to
buy a new disk (and we haven't been hurting for it yet). Why does a
disk that is just sitting in a tower drawing power fail?

We will be adding a CD to this system soon, so if there is a SCSI
problem, I would like to know about it. The CD will max out the
devices on the bus (4 disks, 1 QIC, 1 8mm, 1CD = 7 devices). These
are all SGI devices, and the tower is supposed to terminate the bus
properly.

Any takers?

-- 
Jim Melton, novice guru
email:      flash@austin.lockheed.com | "So far as we know, our
voice mail: (512) 386-4486            |  computer has never had
fax:        (512) 386-4223            |  an undetected error"
From: lombardo@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: XListInputDevices() and XOpenDevice()
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:29:51 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

Hi,
  This is a repost for information about why the above two X calls
won't link with my c++ 3.0 app.  Perhaps its my prototyping!?  I have
proto'ed them as:

extern "C"
{
	XDeviceInfo *XListInputDevices ( Display*, long* )
	XDevice *XOpenDevice ( Display*, XID );
};

I am linking in the following order:

LIBS = /n/gravy2/work/wilson/thesis/NPSGDL/lib/libNPSGDL.a \
       /n/gravy2/work/wilson/thesis/NPSCL/lib/libNPSCL.a \
       ../panel/ComponentLib/libcomponent.a \
	   /n/gravy1/work/zyda/imagesupport/libnpsimage.a -limage \
       -lspaceball -lXi -lXext -lX11_s -lXirisw -lXm_s -lXt_s \
       -lc_s -lgl_s -lm -cckr -lPW

This is a mixed model program that uses the spaceball.


No matter what I try, I get:

/usr/bin/ld:
Undefined:
XListInputDevices(_XDisplay*,long*)
XOpenDevice(_XDisplay*,unsigned long)
*** Error code 1
`all' not remade because of errors


Anybody see anything here????


Thanks in advance,
Chuck

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: thune@cmi.no (Nils Thune)
Subject: Mouse for Indigo
Organization: Christian Michelsen Research a/s
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 13:53:55 GMT


-- 
Is it possible to get a trackball or a different kind of mouse for the Indigo than the one which comes with the system ?


- Nils

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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Support for Exabyte Unit with 10-20gig compression
Keywords: exabyte compression
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:38:56 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <BvDHt4.344@bhpmhaw.bhp.com.au> fkmofg@bhpmhaw.bhp.com.au (Glenn Moffett) writes:
| 	We had ordered an exabyte unit with 10-20gig compression with a Crimson 
| from a Silicon Graphics Agent - West-Prime ( who are now history ).  The 
| order was re-done with Silicon Graphics in Sydney.  We received everything 
| except the exabyte.  The Melbourne support office obtained a demo model from 
| exabyte and declared that they could not suppport it - because the could not
| get it working - fair enough.  So we have no exabyte :-(.
| 
| 	I'd rather not get a 8500 unit if support for the above mentioned unit
| is around the corner.  Is there any plans to support the unit?  And/or is there 
| some {un,}offical channel though which to get the "wheels rolling/spinning" for
| it to be supported?

We have no plans that I know of to support (officially) any tape
drives with compress in the "near" future.  You could probably
write a devscsi program to put it in and out of compression
mode.  ("near" means that I've heard no rumblings that we
do it at all, despite a few casual conversations about it).
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Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: adaptive@cs.nps.navy.mil (zyda res acct)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: login/pandora/indigo problems
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:10:05 GMT

After shutting down the power on an Indigo several times due to
electrical work, I am unable to login. When I attempt to login through
pandora, the screen turns grey for a second and then returns me to the
login icons. The Indigo is connected to a network but all of my files
are local. Any ideas?

Also, is there an SGI rep in Equador, and if so, what is his number?

george dabrowski

dabro@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
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