From: li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tom Li)
Subject: Re: Is TI so rossy?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 17:26:10 GMT


In article <1993Jan2.233229.13167@topaz.ucq.edu.au>, huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes...
>	The only solution to Taiwan issue is China becoming strong enough 
>to be able to control Taiwan by force in short time, despite possible foreign
>power's limited intervence. (I don't know exactly how powerful Chinese military
>is, maybe the solution is already there.)  

Taiwan issue? I think this is CCP issue. IMO, the CCP is a real roadblock 
for unification, democracy in China, and the current HK disputes or even 
the West versus China (CCP) as Chunde Shi suggested. If CCP is willing to 
reform the political system, with the current on-going economic development, 
maybe within 20 years, certain form of unification can be materialized. 
Otherwise, Taiwan will be "forced" towards independence. By then, who to blame?

Unification is not just up to Taiwan, on the contrary, more up to CCP. 

>	Worst thing was the possible war lasted several years, or several
>decades. Yes, even 60% taiwanese could supported TI, but still there were 
>40% against it, and surely there would be some percent of people were 
>determinded to fight to death to protect ROC. DDP might have to adopt KMT's 
>methods in 50's-70's to control Taiwan, and could be more -- the KMT's 
>rulling way in 30's-40's when it was in mainland. The Green Island would 
>be fullfilled with political prisons and POW again.  

Anything is possible. You can buy one lottery and win a million of dollars. 
But given the current political development in Taiwan, I doubt any party 
either KMT or DPP can "control" Taiwan and people's will anymore. The old 
days, "one-way of thinking" is gone, the moderate, negotiation, and tolerance
is replacing the extreme. The different opinion is not always bad sometimes 
can teach us to learn and respect. I hope this will happen to China soon.

>	It is not a funny game! look at history of China, it usually takes
>several decades to restore order and law after big society change. Lood at
>Yugoslavia and Bosnia, look at former Soviet Union, look at Korea, look at
>Germany, look at North Ireland, and look at ourselves(if someone don't like
>this word, take it as Taiwan and Chinese mainland), how painful is to be 
>seperated into hostile entities! It is time to work out how to unify, but not 
>how to seperate further. It may be a long and painful process, but won't be 
>longer and more painful than an endless civil war.

I think tension between Taiwan and the Mainland has been greatly reduced 
in the recent years, the economic "coorperation" may come soon. Break-up may 
not be a bad thing, so does Unification. China has been splitted and united 
several times. I dont worry that too much as long as two sides are willing to 
understand each other and compromise and have something in common.

>	(It is funny to notice some netter talking about Taiwan's democracy 
>as if Taiwan is a grand master of it. In your eyes, Taiwan has been enjoying
>democracy for 43 years; in my eyes, 5 years; in a western's eyes, 1 month
>only!!! You are still a baby, don't try to show off your mulstle.)       

I dont recall any netters from Taiwan say Taiwan has been enjoying democracy 
for 43 years. Taiwan still has a long way to go to claim a "real democracy". 
Frankly, in the old days, KMT's political repression is no better than the 
current CCP. I am glad the old days is gone. I hope China will too.

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