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From: Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Undeletable folder
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:06:45 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu


  Try rebuilding the desktop. If that dosen't work, start up on a
floppy, remove system and finder. then reinstall the system.
  A less trying method is to just make the folder invisible with
ResEdit.

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* Arthur, king of the Britons    * King of the who?                  *
* King of the Brittons!          * Who are the Brittons anyway?      *
* I am, you are, we all are the  *                                   *
* Brittons and I am your king!   * Well, I didn't vote for you.      *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: aris <aris@ap1.me.umn.edu>
Subject: MAC TCP DNR
X-Arisagent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:29:18 GMT

Does anyone know what is the significance of the "Mac TCP DNR" file?
This is a file that is used by the Mac TCP Control Panel.
I would appreciate if someone would provide some more info about this
file.  Is this file necessary under system 7.1?
Thanks,

--Aris

PS   Reply-to: aris@ap1.me.umn.edu
From: feinberg@acsu.buffalo.edu (John A. Feinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: PD/Shareware way to mount or read DOS floppies?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:57:31 GMT
Organization: UB

It turns out the DOSinit is NOT public domain.  It is a hacked version of the
INIT that comes with Outbound laptops for reading DOS disks.  It will probably
be removed from the Sumex-Aim archives pretty soon.  So, if you aren't running
it on an Outbound, there may be some problems.

John Feinberg
SUNY Buffalo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: HUGE disks and minimum file size
From: bruce-b@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Bruce Benson)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:11:33 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: computer Science

Out of curiosity we connected a 2GigaByte Seagate (ST42400N) drive which is
destined to be used on a DecStation to a Quadra 700.

When the file system was built on it it gave us a minimum file size of
32kb. This had the effect of trippling the amount of space needed to hold
the contents of an 80M drive on the same machine.

We found that by partitioning the drive into smaller segments the minimum
file size also got smaller. Eg
Drive SIze   Minimum file size
<=64M          1k
64<x<=128M     2k
128<x<=256M    5k
256<x<=512M    9k
512<x<=1024M   16k
1024<x<=2048M  32k

We tried formatting it with a Microteck formatter (v3.05), a DataWear
formatter (2.0) and HDT (v1.0) none of which made any difference to the
minimum file size the OS built.

At some stage it is quite likely that we will want to connect a drive this
large or maybe a 1G and don't want the minimum size to be so large.

Is there anything which can be done to fix this???

Thanks,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: Rob_L._Allbritton@uu0570.foggybottom.com
Organization: Foggy Bottom / Washington, D.C.
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 01:03:14 EST
Subject: Re: QT 15. won't load

Maury,

I had the same problem - apparently QuickTime 1.5 and the Sys7 beta that
Apple sent out to developers just do not get along at all (this
figgures, right?) anyway, just move up to the System 7.1 release version
- its on the October Developer CD (The Hexorcist)

Rob

Foggy Bottom - your FirstClass Mac connection in Washington, DC

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mctague@sju.edu (Brendan McTague)
Subject: Is there a good PD Mail Program ...
Organization: St. Joseph's University - Philadelphia, PA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:28:01 GMT

... for Appletalk and/or ethernet networks? What/where are they?




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From: zz1bb@impending.ucsd.edu (Barry Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Protecting users from copying files (applications)
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:42:59 GMT

In <aland.720911740@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) writes:

>don@writer.yorku.ca (don Sinclair) writes:

>>We want to use system 7's file sharing capabilities but we do not want
>>users to be able to copy applications from a shared disk in some
>>cases. (We need to worry about our software licensing agreements.) Is
>>this possible?

>The easiest way to do this would be to make only certain folders
>'shared'.  You can also 'set permissions' from the Finder, but that
>might only work with AppleShare (3.x) sharing, I don't know...

At UCSD we use a nifty utility called Key Server.  Each application you want
to protect is modified by the Key Server installation program to include
code that "asks permission to run" from a central Key Server host.  The host
has counters that get decremented each time an application is running so
that you can keep track of how many copies you are allowed to have running
simultaneously.  (Eg, if you have a license for 5 copies of MS Word, then
the counter is set to 5.  When all five copies are running, the user sees a
message that says that all 5 copies are in use).  Other features:

	If all copies are in use, the user can request to get into a queue
		so that when a copy becomes available, the user can run
		the program.
	If a user copies the program to another computer not in the same
		AppleTalk zone, it won't run.  Mucking around with ResEdit,
		I haven't able to figure out how to defeat the Key Server
		code.
	If the computer crashes while a program is running, the Key Server
		will remember which computer was running the program and
		allow it to continue when the computer comes back up.
	A running application periodically checks for the presence of the
		Key Server.  If it disappears (ie, someone disconnects the
		user's computer from the network), the application quits.

Key Server has been working well.  We've been able to totally deprotect our
computers since an application copied from the computer won't run anywhere
else.

Since I just work for the ACS here, I don't know who makes Key Server.  But
it's definitely work a look at.


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From: AS.JJR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Joe Riddle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Is there a way to change Icon/Window outline color?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 13:57:11 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

     I was just asked by a colleague of mine if there was a way
to change the color of the outline that appears whenever you
move a window or an icon around on the desktop.  Apparently he has
spent hours coming up with the perfect desktop color but is now
terribly upset that the outlines can't be seen because they blend
into the color of the background.

     Is there a shareware/freeware solution to this problem or
a resedit hack that someone could point me to?  Thanks in advance
for any assistance.

                      Joe

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                   Joe Riddle
                Systems Supervisor
               Stanford University
              Payroll & Records Dept.
             as.jjr@forsythe.stanford.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: alan@pacdata.com ()
Subject: Screen fonts from Type 1
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:33:10 GMT

As the title suggests... does anyone know how to create screen fonts from
Type 1 outlines? Or is there no need when using them with ATM? I had
always been under the impression you needed to have at least one screen
font to be able to select the font in an App... am I incorrect?

Thanks

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: slavik@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Bradley Slavik)
Subject: Greek Keyboard
Summary: Layout of Greek Keyboard wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:10:20 GMT
Keywords: System, Keyboard, fond


Does anyone have a Greek typewriter or terminal?  If you do, I can 
surely use some of your common knowlege.

I am constructing a new font for math and would like to assign the 
greek letters to the option keys in the same manner that they are assigned
in Greece.  Formerly, I  wrote down the proper key combinations 
but am unable to locate the document.  Please do not send me a list
of how Symbol assigns the keys as it is assuredly INCORRECT.  I have 20
Greek fonts on my machine and am not able to establish a consensus
for a handful of combinations.  I suspect that either the font authors
made up the combinations independently of Greek standards, or there
are several types of Greek keyboards.  My conclusions, and guesses follow.
You can use this as a template to send a reply to me to save yourself time.

alpha = a, beta = b, gamma = g, delta = d, epsilon = e, zeta = z, eta = h,
theta = y or q or j, no guess proffered
iota = i, kappa = k, lambda = l, mu = m, nu = n,
xi = x or c or j, best guess = x
omicron = o, pi = p, rho = r, sigma = s, tau = t, upsilon = u, phi = f,
chi = q or x or c, best guess = c
psi = c or q or y, best guess = y
omega = w,

I still also have no idea where to place the secondary forms of lowercase
delta, theta, sigma, and phi.

Please respond via email so I can summarize results and post for everyone
when I make all the final tallies.  Thank you for your assistance.

			Bradley Slavik
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Bit-map fonts in Imagewriter II with Sys 7
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:17:14 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Nov5.025818.1643@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore) wrote:
> 
> Actually, the required size for bitmaps to print correctly on an
> ImageWriter II is 3 times the size (i.e., if you're printing a 12-point
> font, make sure you have a 36-point size also...)
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Jay (=

Actually, for an ImageWriter II, it is twice the size (24 point for 12
point).  It is three times the size for the ImageWriter LQ.

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From: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Suitcase II 1.2.12 and Sys 7.1
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:29:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: intermec.1992
Reply-To: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Organization: Intermec Corporation, Everett WA

In article <kaufman.721413295@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU writes:
>achernar@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Brono Gatea) writes:
>
>>By now it is known that Suitcase II is incompatible with System 7.1. Is an
>>upgrade in the works (a free upgrade that is)?
>
>Well, maybe 1.2.12 is incompatible, but I upgraded to 2.1.1 a few weeks ago.
>As I remember the cost was nominal.  2.1.1 works fine with 7.1
>
>-- 
>Marc Kaufman (kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU)






Thats odd. I was told by 5th Generation that 2.1.1 will not work with system
7.1.  I pulled the updater off Compuserve in anticipation of arrival of my
new VX.

Speaking of other 7.1 incomaptibilities:

Mode 32 suppsoedly has some type of problem.

Word 5.0a, Excel 4.0 and Works 3.0 all seem to work after a brief test by
myself.

Word 5.1 is suppose to be compatible.

ATM will require 3.0 if you want to keep postscript fonts in the new Fonts
Folder or if using 2.0.3 keep them in the Extensions folder or with the
fonts suitcases if using Suitcase 2.1.2.

More 128 font suitcases are not allowed in the new Fonts Folder.  So if you
have more than 128 fonts (without Suitcase) you will need Font/DA mover 4.1
(I thought we didn't need that nasty anymore!) to combine fonts into fewer
than 128 suitcase.

Howard Kaplan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (yeP!)
Subject: Can't copy, delete.. help!
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:19:39 GMT

Hey Gang,

  A friend of mine ran into a crazy problem I couldn't figure out, so I'll
give y'all a shot.  Realize that this problem was described to me over the
phone by a mac-novice, so he might have left out details or whatever.  Any-
way here's the deal...
  He got some "turbo-net" network connectors for his IIsi, a powerbook 170,
and a HP Laserjet.  They are running system 7 but for whatever reason, some-
one hooked him up with Tops (ugh!)  
  I got him to remove Tops, startup file sharing etc and everything was fine.
Then he calls me back to say that when he tries to empty the trash, his mach-
ine crashes.... it also crashes when he tries to copy a file!  Here's the 
weird part.... when he turns of appletalk... everything is fine.  I figured
maybe his "Appleshare" file was corrupted, but that didn't seem to be the
case.........
  Rebuilding the desktop didn't work, and he doesn't have Norton for System 7,
nor does he have the system 7 master disks for a re-install.  I'd rather not
make the trip to Boston to do a re-install. :-/  Anyone have any ideas?
  Thanks a bunch.

-jg

o   John Greene (Phish Computer Consultant)
o   jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jawalsh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (John A. Walsh)
Subject: cut/copy utility?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:15:17 GMT

Would someone please point me to a utility (control panel, extension,
etc.) that will allow me to copy from an application that doesn't
normally allow this.  I'm using the electronic American Heritage
Dictionary, and I can only select one word at a time for copying.  This
makes useless for copy whole definitions, etc.  A really dumb feature, I
think, but I'm assuming there's a utility that will overcome this
serious flaw.  Thanks to all who reply.

John
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From: briand@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Brian D Diehm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Printing double-sided?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:33:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.7576
Reply-To: briand@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

>MS Word 5.1 supposedly incorporated this feature.

PageMaker also supports even-sided-only or odd-sided-only printing.

-Brian
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Tektronix, Inc.                (503) 627-3437         briand@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM
P.O. Box 500, M/S 19-286
Beaverton, OR   97077
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Subject: Re: System 7.1 Compatibility -- Is this an issue?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:43:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Nov7.222833.28309@news.stolaf.edu>,
smithc@amcl7.math.stolaf.edu (Christopher A. Smith) wrote:
> 
> 
> Because of hellish schedules and uncooperative news computers I
> haven't been able to closely follow the discussions on System 7.1.
> 
> A co-worker of mine in Virginia just got the System 7.1 upgrade and
> ran the new Compatibility Checker on his already System 7.01 system.
> Apparently, some programs, like DiskDoubler 3.7.6, were listed as
> being incompatible with System 7.1.
> 
> Have there been enough (unannounced?) changes in System 7.1 that
> System 7-compatible programs may no longer be compatible?  Or is the
> Compatibility Checker just anal-retentive...?

For System 7.1:

Use DiskDoubler 3.7.7 (warning - this seems to break Spectre ;-)
Use AppleShare File Server 3.0.1
Use MacTCP 1.1.1
For IIvx, and Duo's, use After Dark 2.0w (we have not received this yet)
MODE32 seems to work fine unless you use virtual memory
For MacX use version 1.2
For the Apple IIe card - use version 2.2 of the software
For ATM 2.0.3, move the PostScript fonts to the Extensions folder or call
Adobe and get ATM 3.0.

That's all I've heard of so far.


Eric Apgar      I said it, NOT Apple.    Apgar@Apple.com
From: mkelly@mystix.cs.uoregon.edu (Michael A. Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: How to share an Imagewriter under 7.x
Date: 8 Nov 92 06:37:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov8.063737.18138
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.


I hope this isn't a FAQ.

How do you share an Imagewriter under System 7?  We have three Macs
connected with LocalTalk.  One is a Plus, used as a print server and
a file server.  The Plus has a hard drive and a laser printer connected
to the scsi port, and an Imagewriter II connected to the modem port
(the printer port is used for LocalTalk).  I can't figure out how to
share the Imagewriter.

Please help!

Thanks,

Mike.
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mkelly@cs.uoregon.edu                                      High Risk Ventures
_____________________________________________________________________________
From: wilhelm@mcst.ae.ge.com (Roland Wilhelm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Looking for German System 6.0.8
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:33:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: GE Aircraft Engines, Cincinnati, OH

In article <9NOV199209563288@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu>, 9999sc01@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu
(Alexandre Khalil) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Nov9.040947.11655@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, reriksso@klaava.Helsinki.FI (era eriksson) writes...
> >In article <1992Nov8.204658.7431@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore) writes:
> > > Well, try ftp.apple.com, pathname dts/mas/sys.soft.intl/german for any 
> > > recent system software. Ther should be at least 6.0.7 (which is 6.0.8
> 
> >There's a README or something in the dts directory which requests people
> >from out of the US _not_ to download anything. I don't know what it's
> >there for but you should at least know that Apple might not be too fond
> >of having people download from there. 
> 
> >(Let's say I know someone from over here who _has_ ftp:ed stuff from the
> >dts directory and not yet been zapped by lightning...) 
> 
> >Can anybody tell me the reason for the request? 
> 
> The Apple ftp server is mirrored in Europe.
> I checked for 6.0.8 German in ...../dt./mac/sys.soft.inl : I could only fin
> System 7 German.
> 
>   bric-a-brac.apple.com (130.43.2.3)  /dts/mac/sys.soft
> 
>   quepasa.cs.tu-berlin.de (130.149.17.7) 
>                            /pub/mac/mirrors/apple/dts/mac/sys.soft
> 

German 7.0 is all I've been able to find too.  There is a Z-6.0.7 in the
/intl directory, but the only difference I can see is that "Color" is
spelled "Colour" -- not exactly what I wanted.  Sigh.  Thanks for all the
responses!

       Roland Wilhelm

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issue
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it!"
From: smithc@amcl7.math.stolaf.edu (Christopher A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7.1 Compatibility -- Is this an issue?
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:28:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN


Because of hellish schedules and uncooperative news computers I
haven't been able to closely follow the discussions on System 7.1.

A co-worker of mine in Virginia just got the System 7.1 upgrade and
ran the new Compatibility Checker on his already System 7.01 system.
Apparently, some programs, like DiskDoubler 3.7.6, were listed as
being incompatible with System 7.1.

Have there been enough (unannounced?) changes in System 7.1 that
System 7-compatible programs may no longer be compatible?  Or is the
Compatibility Checker just anal-retentive...?

Thanks!

  ==================================================================
			 Christopher A. Smith
       German & Mathematics -- St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: Upgrading Mac SE Floppy to High Density
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:37:11 GMT

In <199211112117.AA08553@europa.eng.gtefsd.com> stewart@europa.eng.gtefsd.com (Brad Stewart) writes:

>I am interested in upgrading a Mac SE with a low density floppy drive to a 
>high density floppy drive and have been told that I can not do it.  I can't 
>beleive that and so I thought I would ask you for suggestions.  Please reply 
>either by E-Mail or post to this group as I will scan both. Any help would be 
>greatly appreciated.

No true (or at least it hasn't always been true). The FDHD upgrade kit from
Apple contains a SWIM chip and an FDHD. The problem is that it costs close
to $600. A cheaper bet is to buy a Plus drive from Applied Engineering. It
hooks up to your floppy port and provides full FDHD compatability. It's
something like $300 mail order.

Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mmartin@dante.nmsu.edu (Marilyn Martin)
Subject: Price of Appleshare 3.01 upgrade?
Followup-To: mmartin@nmsu.edu
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:27:33 GMT

How much does it cost for a university to upgrade one copy of Appleshare 3.0
(10 users?) to 3.01?

Thanks in advance
Marilyn
From: eckert@anduin.ocf.llnl.gov (Philip Eckert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Finder help needed.
Keywords: finder
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:50:56 GMT
Reply-To: eckert@anduin.UUCP (Philip Eckert)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab.

Before system 7 came along, I was able to modify the finder menu and add
icons.  It seems that there is no menu resource in the finder (at least
I can't find one) any more.  Am I out of luck, or is there still a way?

From: Rick.Zeman@p943.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Zeman)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: HELP! Should I bother with 7.1?
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 14:45:54 -0500

On 11/9/92@7:20:38 AM, Evan Mair was heard to say regarding "HELP! Should I
bother with 7.1?:" 

 
  EM> Well, after playing with it for a while and testing it with some
  EM> inits, etc, I truly can't figure why I should use it!!! The System
  EM> uses 300+ more K than 7.0.1, and I am limited to having my fonts in
  EM> one directory. Yes, things are cleaner, and nicer, but it certainly
  EM> doesn't seem much different.
  EM> 
      7.1 must have problems with 68000 machines.  On my Classic, it uses 200k
more memory than 7.01*, yet everyone I know with 030s report a decrease in
memory used.

Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA