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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 93 09:40:35 PST
From:         "Marcus L. Endicott" <mendicott@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Travel related clubs/journals. Do y
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Lloyd,
       What is that email address for the World Tourism Organization ?
Thanks, - Marcus  ;)
From: ajj@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Andy Jackson)
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Subject: Re: Canary Islands
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:58:59 GMT

Hi All,
	My girlfriend and I went to Tenerife last year in Feb. from the UK.
We went flight only and got a room in a pension in Los Christianos. This is
just round the corner from Playa de la Americas. The "turn up and then fix a
room" attitude worried my other half but it all turned out ok. We had a great
time, we could go round the corner to tourist ville if we wanted or stay 
around the harbour at Los Christianos. The ferry to Gomera goes from the
harbour and there is a little cafe near the ferry terminal which serves 
the best grilled sarndine,Canarian potatoes and mojo that we found.

	I didn't see the start of this thread so I'll stop babbling and you
can let me know if you want to know more about the fun we had.

Cheers !!

Andy J.


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From:         steve parker <ASSRP@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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              21 Jan 93 11:28:00 CST from <MZIOLKOWSKI@MEMSTVX1>

I heard the same rumor in Phoenix.  Our main airline America West is reducing
fares starting tomorrow by 30% and the news indicated that other major carriers
would be doing the same.  Sooooooooo aloha!
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              <DWAMER@WITTENBG.BITNET>
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Does anyone have information that they could share regarding experiences in and
around the Palm Beach, Florida area?  Things to do/interesting places to visit?

Thanks!
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:55:07 EST
From:         Lucy Rowland <LROWLAND@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Atlanta
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Conde Nast Traveler in a recent issue recommended the Ansley Inn,
253 15th St, Atlanta, GA 30309. I think this should put it close
to the High Museum of Art and Woodruff Arts Center (Atlanta
Symphony, etc).Phone 404-872-9000. Conde Nast quoted a rate of $79.

Two other B&B types I know about:

Shellmont Bed & Breakfast Lodge, 821 Piedmont Ave NE, Atlanta 30308
404-872-9290. In Midtown.

Beverly Hills Inn, 65 Sheridan Dr, NE Atlanta 30305  404-233-8520.
In Buckhead, north of downtown Atlanta.

You should be able to drive into downtown Atlanta in about 10-15 min
assuming normal non-rush hour traffic.

Bed & Breakfast Atlanta, Professional Reservation Service,
1801 Piedmont Ave NE  404-875-0525.

This is the city's B&B service if you want to try something other
than these 3.

Don't know anything about the Braves schedule, sorry.

Plenty of restaurants in the Buckhead area; the Dining Room at
the Ritz-Carlton Buckhead (NOT the R-C downtown and NOT the
cafe in the R-C B) is 4 star. Buckhead has two large,
established shopping centers (Lenox Square and Phipps Plaza)
with the likes of Neiman Marcus and Tiffany's, along with more
pedestrian stores.

Little Five Points in Midtown and the Virginia-Highlands area--
Highland Ave is one of the streets that goes through Little
Five Points and drops you right smack dab at the Carter Center.
If you go the opposite direction on Highland you end up at
Piedmont Park. Stop at Manuel's Tavern if you get a chance (on
Highland, right off Ponce de Leon Ave). Jimmy Carter and other
political types love it and are often seen there. Manuel Maloof,
former Chair of the Fulton Co. Commission, owns it.

The Fox Theatre, which is nearby all the above, is acoustically
fantastic, architecturally wonderful, and has shows year round.
Check it out.

The weather should be pleasant in May, and sometimes there will
be art festivals, etc. going on. Check the Saturday Atlanta
Journal Constitution for their Weekend Guide which will get you
in the know VERY FAST.

Have a nice trip,
Lucy M. Rowland, MS, MLS
Head, Science Collections and Branch Services
University of Georgia Libraries
Athens, GA 30602-7412
706-542-6643
FAX: 706-542-6523
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:27:47 TUR
From:         GODWIN@FRMNVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Vienna and Salzburg
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I don't know of a yearly tribute to Mozart, but you can tour his home
in Salzburg.
Rose Mary Godwin     Furman University     GODWIN@FRMNVAX1
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:53:58 CET
From:         "Hans Martin Steiner +39 6" <HSTEINER@ESRIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hotels in Rome
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I posted a note on July 16th containing information on hotels in Rome.
Retrieve it from the backlog.

Hans
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From: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu (Dennis P. Harris)
Subject: Re: Alaska Ferry Travel ????
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:32:00 GMT

In article <C158r6.yK@eis.calstate.edu>, jokim@eis.calstate.edu (Joon Y. Kim) writes...
>Has anyone taken the Alaska Ferry system from Bellingham, WA to points in
>Alaska such as Juneau, Ketchikan, Haines? I am thinking of taking a
>vacation there this summer and wondered about the ships, the food, the
>sights, etc. Any responses would be appreciated.
> 
>Thanks in advance.
> 
>						Joon Kim
>						jokim@eis.calstate.edu

call alaska marine highways @ 1-800-642-0066 and ask them to mail you a 
schedule and map.  peak summer space for cars tends to get booked quickly.

for a general auto touring guidebook of alaska, the yukon, and northern b.c.,
get a copy of the 1993 *milepost*, available at travel bookstores.

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  "The nation that controls magnetism controls the Universe." --- Diet Smith
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:15:29 -0500
From:         GLIDDEN@VAX.LIBRARY.UTORONTO.CA
Subject:      RE: Interhome question
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Mary, you could try a travel bookstore to locate a book put out by
the French travel bureau called Logis de France.  It lists small
one and two star hotels that fall under the auspices of this quasi-
governmental agency.  Also (and this is what we are doing this year
but in the Cote d'Azur) locate the national Gites de France book
which lists small mostly rural accomadation in cottages and holiday
homes.  This is the way to go as you will be there in the off
season and should have no problem booking.  I have never heard of
Interhome but the routes I suggest are the ones the French themselves
are partial to.  If you need more or different info post a message.
You'll love Provence.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:28:00 CST
From:         Mark Ziolkowski <MZIOLKOWSKI@MEMSTVX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Fare Wars
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I heard a rumor earlier today that the airlines were about to engage in another
fare war.  Is this true?  I spoke with my travel agent earlier and she hadn't
heard anything about it, but she did mention some discount fares that will be
ending today.  Unfortunately I can't plan my trip today.  The reason I'm asking
about this is I have a friend who will be moving to Hawaii
 and has offerred me
a place to stay anytime I want to visit and I'm looking for some way to reduce
my costs.  Any ideas on how to do this or comments on the fare war rumor will
be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark Ziolkowski
Tennessee Board of Regents
(615) 366-4458


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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:18:46 EST
From:         Craig Rosenberg <CRAIG@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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On Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:11:38 TUR Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian said:
>In my example I meant to say if you fly from the East Coast to LA.
>Sorry for the confusion.  By the way, if you can get your hands on last
>Sundays New York Times travel section there is a good article explaining
>how the segment promotion works for each airline.
>
>Mary Fry
>The Brookings Institution Library
>

Yes, what you say is true ,,8 segments equals 1 free trip. OK< for American
Airlines, you ALSO get (if a frequent flier) the miles for your travel. Two
round trips to LA nets 12,000 miles on your ADVANTAGE card (20k for one free
trip with a stopover) plus a free trip to be used from September - December.
  So, in essence, you fly twice, pay for these two trips, at the current
discounted fares, get one trip to be used in Sept-Dec for free, and also get
miles (12,000 appx) , which is 60% of another free trip. Not bad?????
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 10:41:00 MDT
From:         LDENNING@DUCAIR.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Travel related clubs/journals. Do you know any?
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Bernd - Contact someone at WTO, World Tourism Organization.  I have a
feeling that they have all fo this type of information.
                                Lloyd Dennington
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:21:11 EST
From:         Lucy Rowland <LROWLAND@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Vienna and Salzburg
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              20 Jan 93 18:34:13 GMT from <evans@ECE.ARIZONA.EDU>

Nothing is cheap in Austria. The schilling is now worth about 9. However,
Austria is worth it.

Pension Dr. Geissler, Postgasse 14 A1010. Telephone 222 533 2803
FAX: 222 533 2635. It's less than a block from one of the underground
rail stations and about 4 blocks from St. Stephens, in the old
University District.

Hotel Post
Fleischmarkt 24  A1010. Telephone 222 515 830. FAX 515 838 081.
Right across from the post office (convenient as they have a
cambio in the p.o. that is almost always open), and about a block
from the Dr. Geisler.

(Both of the above are very near all the major attractions,
including Mozart's apartment)

SALZBURG

Gasthof Zur Goldenen Ente
Goldgasse 10  A5020  Telephone 662 845 622  FAX: 662 845 622 9
About 1 block from the main town square, across the river from
Mirabell.

Pension Wolf
Kaigasse 7  A5020  Telephone 662 843 453 0. FAX: 662 843 453 0
On a small square across the street from the mostly reconstructed
(WWII bombing) Mozart's birthplace.

Go to Innsbruck if you have a chance. Less expensive than either
Vienna or Salzburg, but they have some nice museums, etc and
the Alpenzoo which is very nice but requires ability to
hike up a mountain slope to see all the animals.

Enjoy--Austria is a treasure.

Lucy M. Rowland, MS, MLS
Head, Science Collections and Branch Services
University of Georgia Libraries
Athens, GA 30602-7412
706-542-6643
FAX: 706-542-6523
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:34:35 -0500
From:         "Bonnie James, Health Research Unit,
              Memorial U." <bjames@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA>
Subject:      Europe in spring
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I can get to London in late March/early April at very low cost.  Only
problem is I would rather go to southern Europe.  Any advice?  I know about
Eurailpass, but what about the channel crossing?  I am looking for basic
accomodations (but not hostels), preferably on a coast.

Your ideas would be most appreciated.

Bonnie
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:54:04 EDT
From:         Okan KOCAK <EMY03@TRFIRAT.BITNET>
Subject:      free TWA ticket
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   Dear Travellers,
   A friend of mine mailed me last week and told me that he got
   a letter from TWA with a free Transatlantic ticket here in
   Turkey.He told that it is a business class.However,I cant
   believe that this could happen.Might it be true? The ticket
   is for two people round trip.Thanks for any help.

   Okan KOCAK
   EMY03@TRFIRAT.BITNET
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:51:00 MDT
From:         LDENNING@DUCAIR.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Travel related clubs/journals. Do y
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Sorryu, Marcus, I don't have WTO e-mail.  However, their snail mail is:
        World Tourism Organization
        Capitan Maya 42
        Madrid 28020
        Spain

Another spot for tourism publications is:
        Travel Tourism Research Association
        University of Colorado
        Boulder, CO
                                Lloyd
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 11:17:16 EST
From:         Bob Kaufl <KAUFL@NKI.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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On Sat, 23 Jan 93 02:10:56 TUR steve said:
>A question for the knowledgable members of the list.  Last y ear, we volunteere
>d to be bumped on a Delta flight and received a voucher for a free flight anywh
>ere Delta flys in the U.S.  We have chosen to go to New Orleans and when we cal
>led, we were told that we would have to fly stand by...Has any one else had a s
>imilar experience?   Any way around this?  They won't even take our reservation
Have you tried to book the flight through a travel agent vs. dealing directly
with the airline - that's the way I do it with Contential on a comp ticket.

Bob Kaufl
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From:         "CHRIS M., ST. JOHN'S NFLD." <hru@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA>
Subject:      Bermuda
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Would Bermuda in late March be a good place to do nothing?

I don't golf or play tennis, don't like real hot weather.

Could someone who has been there tell me whether it would be better to stay
in Hamilton or is the place so small this would not matter?  How about a
recommendation for a modestly-priced apartment complex?  Is a house-keeping
unit a good idea, i.e. are there well-stocked  grocery stores?

Are bicycles available for rent as well as the famous scooters.

Thanks in advance for any information.

Chris
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:17:14 EST
From:         HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      turkey tv show
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some time ago a message was sent about a TV program about
Turkey that was supposed to be on WWOR-TV in NYC on January 21.

it was not on at that time ... perhaps someone might be able
to provide better information as to when it might air?


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From:         Dorota Szywacz <SZYWACZ@PLKTUS11.BITNET>
Subject:      rooms in Roma
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Hello,
I'm very new on that list (from today :-) ) and I need your advice.
I'm going to Roma from 8 to 16 February and I'm looking for some info about
hotels and prices of rooms. Maybe someone can advise me a nice and cheap place.
I would be very greatful for any tip.
Virtually,
                                  Dorota Szywacz
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 11:38:00 CST
From:         Louis Crispino <DEVBLGC@TCSTSO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Portugal???
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I visited Portugal for 3 weeks about 4 1/2 years ago and had a great
time. Im sure most guide books can give you an idea of a good place to
stay in Lisbon. On the coast, I went to the village of Tavira, it's in
the Algarve, near the Spanish border. Nice town on a small river with
resturants and shops on the riverfront. There is also a market and there
was entertainment outside on the weekends. To get to the beach you take
a small ferry to an island just off the coast. This would be a nice
place to relax, and you shoud have no trouble finding an inexpensive
room. I can't remember the name of the place I stayed, but it was listed
in Let's Go, and at the time cost around $13.00 a night. (It's across
the river from the market, and has a nice rooftop patio)

You also may want to head north to the mountains, starting in Oporto,
up to Vienna del Castelo (sp?). I took a side trip to Villa Real, where
Matues (sp?) wine is made. Theres a great train through the mountains
called the Corgo line that takes you there.

I hope this helps... Good luck.

Louis Crispino
New Orleans, LA
From: ILCHUK@WRLCVM.BITNET (Jeanne Ilchuk)
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Subject: ARUBA Trip
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:00:42 GMT
Organization: Washington Research Library Consortium

I'm going to Aruba for the first time in March.
Does anyone have any tips for what I might expect?
Do I need to bring any "dress up" clothes? - I hate dressin' up.
Do any of the hotels have a gym one might be able to use for a fee?
I'll be staying at Paradise Beach Villas.
I have no idea if that's a good location.
Should I bring anything with me that might be extremely expensive in Aruba?

Thanks in advance.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:46:03 EST
From:         MAUREEN BENNETT <BENNETMM@SNYCENVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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              21 Jan 93 11:28:00 CST from <MZIOLKOWSKI@MEMSTVX1>

Mark,

     I heard Wednesday on the public radio station's travel segment that
there was a war of sorts regarding frequent flyer bonuses.  From what I
recall between now and April? you can accrue bonuses based on flight
segments.  A trip with a stop-over counts as two segments.  You may need
as little as eight to earn a free ticket redeemable between September and
just before Christmas.  I think American started it and others have followed
and all have their own requirements.  You can call the airlines direct to find
out the details.
     The only other promo I know of is Northwest's family and group program
where there is a greater and greater discount for each additional person
travelling together up to 40% off.
     A good travel agent is your best bet for information, they know
about promos early on.

Maureen
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From:         Craig Rosenberg <CRAIG@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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On Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:14:48 TUR Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian said:
>I too read something about America West reducing their fares by up to 30%
>through sometime in February.  I think the other airlines have decided to
>match only where they are directly competing.  I am not sure if the sale
>fares were ever good for travel to Hawaii.  I have also heard that
>Northwest has or will eliminate the family/group discounts.  It was too
>open for abuse and travel agents did not like it.  Every major airline is
>offering segment promotions.  TWA's is the best (if they don't go under)
>because they give you bonus miles that can be used at any time, not just
>this fall.  Also if you rack up enough miles you can go to Europe.
>
>Mary Fry
>The Brookings Institution Library
>
>

  Bonus miles for all airlines can be used anytime ,
actually within a three year time period for airline I fly.
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From:         VLDAUGHE@OWUCOMCN.BITNET
Subject:      San Antonio
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   I will be going to San Antonio for a long weekend in March (18-19).
   I will be staying right on the water/walk/alamo(three blocks away).
   What else should I do and what are some really good local Mexican
   restaurants?  I may have some time for Friday and/or Thursday and
   will have Sunday to do as I please.  Any help will be appreciated.

  Virginia Daugherty
  Ohio Wesleyan University
  614-368-3667
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From: toptholt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy B Optholt)
Subject: Saudi Arabia
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:59:29 GMT

Hi,

     Can someone tell me what airlines serve both the US and Riyadh and typical
routes? I will originate in Columbus, Ohio.

Thanks
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:34:39 EST
From:         Craig Rosenberg <CRAIG@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
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On Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:46:03 EST MAUREEN BENNETT said:
>Mark,
>
>     I heard Wednesday on the public radio station's travel segment that
>there was a war of sorts regarding frequent flyer bonuses.  From what I
>recall between now and April? you can accrue bonuses based on flight
>segments.  A trip with a stop-over counts as two segments.  You may need
>as little as eight to earn a free ticket redeemable between September and
>just before Christmas.  I think American started it and others have followed
>and all have their own requirements.  You can call the airlines direct to find
>out the details.
>     The only other promo I know of is Northwest's family and group program
>where there is a greater and greater discount for each additional person
>travelling together up to 40% off.
>     A good travel agent is your best bet for information, they know
>about promos early on.
>
>Maureen


You bet. Two trips with stop-overs on each qualifies you. It must be separate
flight numbers, and the trip must cost $200 or more, $50 per segment. You get
four segments for one round trip if you stop over, and two trips gets you a
free trip in end of year. American definately has it, don't know about which
others. So, you pay for two trips now, and get one free later... Plus you also
get the miles accumulated to your account, frequent flier miles. 20k of those
gets you a free trip...
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