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From: dclark@b11.ingr.com (Dave Clark)
Subject: Movies on the Mountain
Reply-To: dclark@b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:01:54 GMT


Movies on the Mountain ...

... the Film Co-op's famous Saturday night summer series ...
begins on May 30th this year.


For fun, fresh air, fresh popcorn, wacky introductory cartoons, and
great films ranging from comedies of the 40s to musicals of the 60s to
adventures of the 80s, come up to the Monte Sano State Park
Amphitheater at sunset [*] on any Saturday evening from May 30 through
September 12, 1992.  Admission is just $3 per person.  If you're a
senior citizen, you'll receive a considerable discount.  If you're 12
or under, it's free!  (Most of the Movies on the Mountain are quite
suitable for children.)


Here's the 1992 "Movies on the Mountain" schedule:

     May 30    The Hound of the Baskervilles
     June 6    The Thirty-Nine Steps
     June 13   Sullivan's Travels
     June 20   Breakfast at Tiffany's
     June 27   U2: Rattle and Hum
     July 4    Raiders of the Lost Ark
     July 11   Shadow of a Doubt
     July 19   This is Spinal Tap
     July 25   Time Bandits
     Aug 1     West Side Story
     Aug 8     Ninotchka
     Aug 15    Raising Arizona
     Aug 22    Out of the Past
     Aug 29    In the Heat of the Night
     Sept 5    Paint Your Wagon
     Sept 12   The Man from Snowy River

[*] Check your Farmers Almanac or the daily newspaper for summer sunset
    times if you don't trust your instinct.

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From: rob@b15.b15.ingr.com (Rob Lemley)
Subject: Re: New subject-Politics!
Reply-To: rob@lemley.b17a.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Huntsville
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 15:06:41 GMT

In <4168.29CFA85F@umagic.FIDONET.ORG> John.Blumer@f4.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer) writes:

>                      ...   Just what I love another election were
>I vote for the lessor of two evils.  ...

A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote for evil.

If you really think that the "big two" candidates are evil,  does
it really matter which of the two is elected?

Look at the alternatives, Perot, Libertarian, write-ins, etc.
and allign your vote behind the candidate(s) you can believe in.
If you don't really believe in the candidate(s) that you vote
for, you are throwing your vote away.  The most effective vote
is the vote of your conscience.

Hope I'm preaching to the choir,
Rob Lemley
205-730-1546
rob@lemley.b17a.ingr.com
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From: tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer)
Subject: Re: Perot?
Keywords: why ask why?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:56:37 GMT


Perot made a comment recently that 70% of the bonds to finance the National
Debt will come due in the next 5 years. If as he says we can pay those bonds
off without refloating the bonds then the competive nature of the US
can be restored.

Does anyone have more information of the bond futures that Mr Perot was
refering to?
-- 
Kermit Tensmeyer                                  | Intergraph Corporation
SomeWhere in the South (it's a Civilized place)   | "It's only MY opinion"
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From: ellingrw@infonode.ingr.com (Bob Ellington)
Subject: Re: Reagen?  Lousy actor or lousy president.
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:08:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.124207.3460@infonode.ingr.com>, wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Wilson) writes:
> 
> 			SUMMARY:
> 
> 1)  Bring on the next lucky contestant, how can he/she/it be worse than R.R.?
> 2)  At with Reagan, you knew where the money was going 
> 	(er ugh: I can't remember.  Iranian arms what?  Cash for hostages who?)
> 3)  "Read my lips, no new taxes..".  Yea, right!  
> 	Don't you mean, no new term?
> 4)  Name something that Bill Clinton, Dan Qualye, and Jane Fonda all have in
>     common.
> 
> Keith (give me liberty or give me taxes) Wilson
> 
> 
> 	None of them served our country in Vietnam... 
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I was young when Vietnam was going on and I don't really remember 
the true sentiment of the time about the War (yes I believe it truly was
a war but that is a different discussion), but I always got the feeling 
that the majority of the people were against it or atleast were against 
it after it ended.  That being the case, why is there such a stink about
whether or not someone served in Vietnam?  Since when did serving in 
Vietnam make you qualified to be President and not serving makes you 
less qualified?  In ten years will it be required of our future 
President to have served in the Gulf War?  If serving in a war is the 
only thing that makes a good President then we better plan on killing 
and having our own killed in wars about every ten years.  This peace 
thing is not gonna cut it, we won't be able to build new Presidents 
without war.  

    Perhaps a President with a strong business sense is what we really 
need.  Deficit this and deficit that, the President is to blame, no the 
Congress is to blame.  NO, I think we the people are to blame!  We have 
become sheep looking for a strong shepherd to fight off the wolves 
instead of becoming a strong united nation as we should be.  At the 
moment, I am not sure that we can come together as a nation and lead 
ourselves back to the front.  United we stand, divided in multiple 
parties all grabbing and clawing to protect their own we fall....


Bob (Give me a country where we all fight together as one) Ellington
From: John.Blumer@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Term limits
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 07:41:18 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

>|> That would be a first. When a new congressman comes in
>|> they almost always bring in new aides.
 
>Sure, Mr. Larry is going to bring a few key people with him, to 

reward
>them for working in his campaign or whatever.  But Mr. Moe's aides,
>knowing they won't be working for Mr. Moe anymore, will be trying 

to
>hitch themselves to the next rising star.  So it's not inconceivable
>that Mr. Moe's aides might be actively working in Mr. Larry's
 
Not inconceivable, but very unlikely. I doubt even in Washington
will you find very many examples of an aide working for theirs
boss's opposition.
 
>......
 
>|>
>|> How would it explode under term limits? Using your own
>|> argument that aides cause problems, term limits wold greatly
>|> help. Surely you agree that their is greater turn over in aides
>|> when some one new comes in, rather than if the incumbant gets
>|> re-elected.
 
>The whole point of my article was that, under term limits, there 

will
>be even LESS turn over in aides than there is now.  An explosion 

in
>the number of aides staying in D.C. and working their way up the
 
I find it hard to believe anyone would think that there would less 
turn
over in aides with a new congressman, than if the incumbant gets
re-elected.
 
>......
 
>|>  > it many times
>|>  > before:  term limits are not the answer.
>|>  >
>|> Your own argument suggests otherwise.
>
>I completely disagree with your assessment.
 
I guess we will have to agree to disagree than, because I completely
disagree with yours.



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From: Michael.Konor@p0.f8.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Konor)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Hsvl/Madison County Money
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:44:29 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/8.0 - The Alabama Inferno, Huntsville AL

TC> I beg to differ.  My usual access to I-565 is from Old Madison Pike, 
TC> and I 
TC> have thought for years that lighting was needed there.  From Old 
TC> Madison Pike, 
TC> the entrance to the ramp to southbound Rideout Road is very poorly 
TC> marked. 

I said nothing about the proper placement of signs.  I have to agree
there, if they had a better sign and road reflectors it would serve the
purpose.

TC> At night I can find it if I use the offroad lights on my Jeep, which 
TC> throw 
TC> more light to the sides than headlights, but that is an impolite 
TC> thing to do 
TC> in the face of approaching traffic.  Extra lighting here will be 
TC> most welcome. 

So YOU'RE the guy who blinded me awhile back...  The lights are a
continuing cost that would be better used elsewhere.  What's better, your
slight inconvenience, or better education for children?

= FSEDv086b =

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From: wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Wilson)
Subject: Re: Bob for President.  Was: Reagen?  Lousy actor or lousy president.
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:17:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.170606.17544@infonode.ingr.com>, ellingrw@infonode.ingr.com (Bob Ellington) writes:
> In article <1992Apr9.160231.14195@infonode.ingr.com>, wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Wilson) writes:
> > 
> > 	What's to blame?  We should be proud of our accomplishments.

> I am very proud.  So proud it makes me sick to see the news each night 
> about this group wanting this and that group wanting that.  I think that
> America is destroying itself from the inside.  And we blame it all 
> either on the President or Congress.  We The People need to look at 
> ourselves and realize the true blame for the bad economy(all other major
> issues included) belongs to US.  I will quickly admit that I don't think
> a change in who is elected will change anything until the public changes
> its full attitude toward how to run this country.  These changes will 
> not come overnight with a vote for President.  It will take time.  But 
> if we let everything go much longer it will be too late.  America, the 
> next fallen empire?
>   America (politically) has become 50+ little bity counties all fighting
> to get more for themselves instead of 1 United country doing what is 
> best for the whole.  This _IS_ We The People's fault for voting 
> with a "What can they do for me" attitude.  What can they do for US is a
> better vote.  
> 
> Bob (Just frustrated election year opinions) Ellington
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
HUMOR:  
Uncle, uncle, okay, alright...  Bob for President...

Now:
By the way, it was nearly 51 little bity count(r)ies. Our infinite wisdom(less)
Congress nearly voted on making the District of Columbia the 51st state.

Guess Congress didn't want to bill taxpayers for out_of_state long distance
telephone calls: HA!

				OR

How bout those commercials: Vacation in the District. Adventurous and exciting
mugging and robberies, hookers at nearly every street corner, our former mayor
is actively promoting drug awareness, and nightly parties with exquisite dining;
yachting; and the finest champagnes ALL with your weekly paychecks...

Keith A(ir farce a great waste of life) Wilson
From: John.Blumer@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Term limits
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 18:27:58 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

 > Why are we debating this side issue? I've seen some very
 > good reasons For and Against term limits.  (In the end
 > I come down against them, But who cares?)
 > If you want a change so dramatic and fundimental as term
> ....
Roy, I have replied to similiar questions several times, in case 
you have not seen the previous replies the short version is; I believe 
after numerious terms congressman (most, but not all) tend to serve 
their own interests (such as re-election), rather than the people 
who elected them. Also I do not see that term limits are a dramtic 
chnage, more like evolution of the process. 



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Subject: Re: Term limits
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 19:43:24 CDT
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

tj@alpine.b17a.ingr.com (T.J. Higgins) writes:

>  [ re: term limits ]
> 
> No, what it will do is move even more political power into the hands 
> of unelected bureaucrats.  When Congressman Moe is forced to leave 
> because of term limits, and Congressman Larry takes his place, you can
> bet that Mr. Larry is going to hire most, if not all, of the aides 
> that were working for Mr. Moe.  The long serving aides will work with 
> the long-serving aides of the other congressional seats, not caring 
> who fills those seats, and not having to answer to any voters, 
> advising the seatholder on what to do next.  A lot of this goes on 
> now, but it will explode under term limits.  I have said it many times
> before:  term limits are not the answer.

Apply them to bureacrats, too. Total of 10 years in government service,
then get a real job. (I posted that yesterday, you may not have seen it.)

It would force turnover, and also cut down a great deal on the future
pension liability the taxpayers are currently facing from 30-year
career job-justifiers.

> Does anybody remember the famous "Budget Isolation Bill" that was 
> passed a few years ago?  This was supposed to force the state 
> legislature to work on and pass a budget bill before considering any 
> other business.  It was voted in by a large majority, and everyone 
> (including me) felt very good about it.  So what did the legislature 
> do?  At the beginning of every session, they suspend the rules, and 
> then it's business as usual.

So, perhaps we need to amend the state Constitution to prohibit the
legislature from suspending rules.

> Term limits would have the same effect.  They would make the 
> electorate feel good, but not really change anything else.

Anything done wrong won't improve things, and may not change things.
Nothing done won't help, either.

Gary Heston, at home....
gary@cdthq.uucp
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From: tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer)
Subject: Re: Term limits
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:00:01 GMT

In article <4418.29E45CE8@umagic.FIDONET.ORG> John.Blumer@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer) writes:
> > No, what it will do is move even more political power into
> > the hands
> > of unelected bureaucrats.  When Congressman Moe is forced
> > to leave
> > because of term limits, and Congressman Larry takes his
> > place, you can
> > bet that Mr. Larry is going to hire most, if not all, of
> > the aides
> > that were working for Mr. Moe.  The long serving aides
>
>
>That would be a first. When a new congressman comes in
>they almost always bring in new aides.

	This should have been filed under rec.humor.
	A new congressmen may bring in 3 or so aids. He get's the rest
	from staffers already in the area. It really doesn't matter
	if your last boss was a staunch Democrate, your new boss will
	likly be  a raunch Republican.
>
> > before:  term limits are not the answer.
> >
>
 Didn't we see this in Mr Deeds goes to Washington? There are almost as many
 misconceptions about life in Alabama as there are misconceptions about
 DC. Most senators don't know how much of an idiot that they seem to
 their staff. Their staff and aids are some of the most mistreated and 
 represented workers in america. Did you know that minamum wage does not
 apply to workers on the Hill or that workers comp does apply. Discrimation
 laws (race or sexual) are not applicable there either?


-- 
Kermit Tensmeyer                                  | Intergraph Corporation
SomeWhere in the South (it's a Civilized place)   | "It's only MY opinion"
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From: vilva@madras.b23b.ingr.com (Vilva Natarajan)
Subject: Company information...
Reply-To: "Vilva Natarajan <vilva@madras.b23b.ingr.COM>"
Organization: "Dazix, an Intergraph Company., Huntsville, AL 35894, USA."
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:02:00 GMT


Hi,

	Does anyone know of a company called "Optimization Technology Inc."
	in Huntsville? I am looking for some information about what this
	company does, etc. Please send me mail if you know. Thanks.

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From: stackj@infonode.ingr.com (Jay Stackhouse)
Subject: Re: Reagen?  Lousy actor or lousy president.
Summary: Here Here!
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:59:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.140818.7989@infonode.ingr.com>, ellingrw@infonode.ingr.com (Bob Ellington) writes:
> > 	None of them served our country in Vietnam... 
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
>     Perhaps a President with a strong business sense is what we really 
> need.  Deficit this and deficit that, the President is to blame, no the 
> Congress is to blame.  NO, I think we the people are to blame!  We have 
> become sheep looking for a strong shepherd to fight off the wolves 
> instead of becoming a strong united nation as we should be.  At the 
> moment, I am not sure that we can come together as a nation and lead 
> ourselves back to the front.  United we stand, divided in multiple 
> parties all grabbing and clawing to protect their own we fall....
> 
> 
> Bob (Give me a country where we all fight together as one) Ellington
> 
  Here Here!  Excellent description of the nation today.  Remember the
ever famous scene at Iwojima (sp.) where the soldiers are pushing the
American flag back into position?  It couldn't be done with just one
person, it took a group working together.  If one person in that group
just decided to pull, then it misserved the purpose.  Didn't happen!!!
The President is just a person who has taken on the responsibility to
try and push this country in the right direction.  One person can't do
it all.  We all have to push with him.  
 
Just my opinion... Direct flames to rec.flame or alt.flame or wherever
it is.  I don't know because I don't read it.

        Jay ( I bleed red, white, and blue ) Stackhouse
From: Bryan.Durio@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bryan Durio)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: petition to place bro
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 07:52:00 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

Robert Wood wrote to Chris Spray:

RW: ... 
RW: and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.  One nation, under God,   
RW: ...

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Touche!




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From: Christian.Walters@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Christian Walters)
Newsgroups: hsv.religion
Subject: Re: kids and morals
Date: Tue,  7 Apr 92 17:21:30 CDT
Organization: Micro Magic

Jim Cobabe says:
>We really see things differently here.  You seem to be seeking some
>kind of social program that will intervene when we somehow judge that
>parents are not doing their jobs.  I would like to believe that we must
>allow parents to do the best that they can, because no alternative has
>ever proven satisfactory.
 
What I'm seeking is ANYTHING that will help out when parents screw up.
And I'm not talking about just maybe being too harsh or too conservative
or anything else that would make kids less like me :) I'm not completely
enamored of a social program for several reasons: by whose criteria
should we pick which parents need help, for example. Not to mention the
fact that government intervention doesn't have a sterling record for
making things easier.
 
I would love it if we could just leave it all to the parents and not
worry about it. But we've been doing that for a long long time, and it
doesn't look like it's working anymore. Maybe I'm just an idealist, but
I can picture a world without date rape and street gangs. :)
 
>The _source_ of moral values is not really the primary concern here.
 
You're right. I was getting sidetracked :)
 
>What matters more is that _something_ is taught at the appropriate
>time.  Where people apparently run into problems is if the critical
>period for teacing is missed.
 
Exactly. So what do we do if this period is missed, and the child
doesn't develop socially? (I see another problem with a social program -
by the time all the paperwork was filled out, lost, and filled out again
the problem kid would have outgrown his impressionable stage.)
 
Do we agree on the problem here? To me, it seems like all the problems
associated with children and teenagers (and therefore eventually adults)
are getting worse. When I left Huntsville for school 5 1/2 years ago,
there weren't any street gangs - at least none worthy of getting news
coverage.
 
But you want to leave it all up to the parents, which will not make the
problems go away. They will continue at the present rate, until
something is done. I don't know what should be done. A social program
might not do any good, but there should be SOMETHING. Just because I
know everything about religion doesn't make me an expert in politics :)



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From: jimc@cobabe.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jim Cobabe)
Subject: re: That sin thing
Reply-To: jimc@cobabe.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph 
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:19:44 GMT

In article <4496.29ECEEF7@umagic.FIDONET.ORG>, Christian.Walters@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Christian Walters) writes: 
|> I never "forget" to be logical. At times, my logic may be faulty,
|> though. Or I may choose to ignore it :) But I never neglect to use it..
|>  
|> >Please explain why something that is bounded by parameters cannot be
|> >considered "infinite".
|>  
|> "This is my back yard, which is infinite. It runs off infinitely in all
|> directions. Well, at least until you hit the fence."
|>  
|> >I am sure you recognize that an infinite number of points can be found
|> >in a finite area.  To demonstrate this fact, draw a circle on a piece
|> >of paper and count how many points it contains. Remember plane geometry
|> >from the seventh grade?  :-)
|>  
|> Not exactly the same thing. A circle is still bound. The best analogy
|> you can draw from this is that God is capable of doing an infinite
|> amount of good deeds. But he's still bounded from other types of
|> activity.
|>  
|> >A perfect being can posses infinite capabilities and still be
|> >constrained from doing certain things.
|>  
|> Bull :)

Ah, yes.  The perfectly logical refutation.  :-)

|> >You seem to be asking the old "Can God make a rock so big that he
|> >cannot lift it?" question.  For answers to questions like this, I would
|> >suggest that you just ask Him.  :-)
|>  
|> You've made that suggestion before :) I don't think I have his number.
|> Or maybe I do, and he doesn't return my calls :)

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