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From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Do Kevlar tires work?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:03:50 GMT

ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House) writes:
>In article <BzCrvF.KLn@cs.uiuc.edu> tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
>>I have been using the same set of Continental Grand Prix's, 700X25 on my
>>RB-1 since July and have not had a single flat.  The Illinois country roads I 
>>ride on are pretty clean but I think alot their longevity has to do with
>>the width of the tire.  They ride really well too, pretty close to a sewup
>>in road feel.
>Am I the only one who finds this information entirely useless without some
>estimate of the number of miles ridden on those tires in that time?

Don't be a prick Eric.  All you have to do is ask in a reasonable manner.
Are you incapapble of doing that?
-Terry
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam)
Subject: Re: A friend went down
Reply-To: Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:47:27 GMT

Sorry to hear about your friend -- hope he pulls through OK.

>Having ID wouldn't have stopped this, but it took a long time to find
>out who he was.  Luckily he was wearing a jersey from a local bike shop
>and through a description they figured out it was Dale.  If you go out
>riding, especially alone, bring *some* ID.  It doesn't weigh much.

This is a *very* good idea.  Your ID doesn't have to be current,
either.  I leave an expired driver's license with my health
insurance info on it on my bike at all times.  Even if I don't
take my wallet with me, I've got good ID.

I see Delta Cycle Corp. distributes a peel-off ID/medical info
sticker that you can stick to your helmet, frame, etc.  The info
is concealed until the sticker is peeled off.  Looks like
something that would be especially good for kids who don't
ordinarily carry ID and health insurance cards.  The shop I work
at is considering stocking these, especially now that the County
is making helmets mandatory so we'll be seeing more school kids
coming in for helmets.
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From: RONEAL@lexmark.com (Randy O'Neal)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: A friend went down
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:38:03 GMT
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark

In article <shari.724599467@rlxdev>
shari@modcomp.uucp (Shari Bernhard) writes:
 
>Having ID wouldn't have stopped this, but it took a long time to find
>out who he was.  Luckily he was wearing a jersey from a local bike shop
>and through a description they figured out it was Dale.  If you go out
>riding, especially alone, bring *some* ID.  It doesn't weigh much.
 
So sorry to hear about your friend.  The thought of this type of accident
has bothered me as I put most of my miles in while commuting in rural areas
that could leave one injured for quite awhile if you were a victim of a
hit-and-run.  I went to the local Army surplus and had a set of dog tags
made up with my name, address, social security number, phone number,
blood type, birthdate and NKA for 'no known allergies'.  It took two tags
and they came with these little rubber rings around the perimeter of the
tags so they wouldn't rattle.  I wear them every time I ride and I keep a
set of spares in my seat wedge along with a duplicate copy of my insurance
card.  My co-workers kid me about carrying a ship-to address for the body,
but I figure if I can't talk for myself this should do it, especially if
they find the insurance card in the seat wedge.  The tags are very light,
no bother at all and they cost all of $5.00 including the rubber rings and
two chains.  Well worth the investment if you ask me...
 
 
 
Randy O'Neal                         "The above views are mine alone,
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: A friend went down
From: vannuysd@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:19:02 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

I'd like to add my voice to those who use dog tags and rear view mirrors.
I ordered my dog tags from the classified section in the back of one 
of the
two major bike mags, either Bicycling or Mountain Bike Action, I don't
recall which.  I attached the dog tag to the laces of one of my 
cycling shoes.  That way, I am always sure to have it with me.  Hmmmmm,
except on my commute rides when I wear street shoes (I just 
realized.  I'll have to do something about that).  I take some ribbing
, too, when I tell people that's so they will know where to send the 
body.  But
 it seems a reasonable precaution.  My tags also indicate blood type 
and insurance plan.

I also have a friend who was riding with a buddy on a rural road here 
a month or so ago.  This road is really wide and has a bicycle lane and
the buddy was creamed from behind.  He did survive, however.  It does give
one the shudders.  When, I seem something wide or scary pulling up behind
me in my rear view mirror, I sometimes, just stop and pull over.

DavidIn article <22910@drutx.ATT.COM>, r.g.olsen@att.com (r.g.olsen@att.com) writes:
> Shari Bernhard writes:
> 
>> I found out last night that a friend of mine was in a serious accident
>> involving a car on his way cycling to work yesterday morning.
>> The driver (not the car) ran into the back of him with such a force
>> that he slammed into the windshield.
> 
> Sorry to hear this.  Hope your friend recovers!
> 
> John Forester wonders why many cyclists (like myself)
> are concerned about this type of collision, which is
> responsible for only a small fraction of car-bike accidents.
> Nevertheless, when it occurs, the results are usually very
> severe for the cyclist.
> 
> I use a rear-view mirror when I ride on the roads, and
> check it often when there is lots of traffic.
> It's no guarantee of safety, but I feel it helps.
> 
> 	Ron Olsen
> 	Boulder, Colorado
> 	r.g.olsen@att.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.racing
From: daveh@heart.tv.tek.com (David M. Hayes)
Subject: Re: Dave Harvey Speaks Out on Drafting!
Organization: Tektronix TV Measurement Systems, Beaverton, OR
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:52:47 GMT

In article <29.1992.LID@lemond.harvey.com> dharvey@lemond.harvey.com (Dave "Hill" Harvey) writes:
>Personally, I don't respect anyone who sucks off my wheel, but what
>really frosts me is when they try to go in front. I didn't get this
>powerful by sucking wheel, me mateys. Breaking wind is Job 1 on my
>training schedule. Do I let it get me down when they try? No, sir. I
>let my elbows do the talking. Most riders will not risk spleen damage
>just to lead the peloton.
>

This reminds me. Didn't Mr. Harvey admit in a recent post that he's only a 
Cat 3? Seems as though this level of hubris is inappropriate for such a 
mediocre position on the USCF "totem pole."

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: freytag@seas.gwu.edu (Richard Freytag)
Subject: Re: DAZER ultrasonic dog repeller?
Followup-To: freytag@seas.gwu.edu
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 20:12:33 GMT

I have heard people suggest using a water bottle filled with Ammonia.  One
squirt in the face and the dobie is otherwise engaged.  Pretty important
to not confuse your NH3 with your H20 bottle!

-Richard Freytag
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,sci.med.nutrition
From: young@serum.kodak.com (Rich Young)
Subject: Re: NEW wonderpill! (was: Re: Bananas vs. PowerBars)
Originator: young@sasquatch
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:52:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.155209.13238@polaris.utu.fi> eepee@polaris.utu.fi (Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki) writes:

[...]

>The new MIX-VIT (tm) is made up of a sodium chloride heart surrounded by
>a layer of glucose. All ingredients are 100% NATURAL with NO PRESERVATIVES
>added. Five tablets daily of MIX-VIT (tm) will help you improve your diet!

	Wonderful.  Just what the Western world needs: a pill that adds
	salt and sugar to the diet.


-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
From: casseres@apple.com (David Casseres)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Do Kevlar tires work?
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:16:15 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <480003@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com>, wray@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com
(Wray Smallwood) wrote:

> 1.  Don't store your bike in direct sunlight.  Black tires expand the
> air in the tires by more than 20 PSI depending on the size of the tires
> (My trusty digital pressure meter doesn't lie).  Several times I have
> scared the *&^%$ out of people walking by an unoccupied bike that
> explodes beside them.  Expanded tires that are overinflated tires that
> are weakened tires can cause havoc with your sex life after a meeting
> with the crossbar on your bike.

I do not believe that a 20 psi increase over normal pressure can cause a
tire to explode, especially since elsewhere in your post you advise
inflating tires to just under the recommended pressure.  I have heard that
tire manufacturers usually expect a tire to stay on the rim and in one
piece at up to *twice* the recommended pressure.

I use tires rated for 120 psi, and I always pump them to 130 psi.  Every
year I spend 6 days at the end of August riding in the Mojave Desert and
the Owens Valley, with my tires exposed to direct sunlight all day long
(there is no shade).  On these rides I am in the company of dozens of other
riders.  The only tire problems I have ever had on these rides are
punctures from sharp objects, and the same applies to the other people I
ride with.

Pump your tires to *at least* the recommended pressure, and don't worry
about solar heating.

--

David Casseres
Exclaimer: Wow!
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: pjs@netcom.com (Philip J. Schneider)
Subject: Re: Dave Harvey Speaks Out on Drafting!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:46:12 GMT

In article <7984@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> jmyers@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM (Jonathan E Myers) writes:
>>. . . Breaking wind is Job 1 on my
>>training schedule...
>>    - Dave
>
>I am interested in this "breaking wind" concept in training . . .
>I am very impressed by people who can "break wind" with much power, but
>I think it is much more influenced by diet ( beans, bear, etc.) than 
                                                     ^^^^
                                                     ^^^^
>riding prowess. . .  
>
>			Jon Myers

And all the time, I thought it was the beer I drank when I had bear for dinner
that caused the problems. . . :-)



Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Subject: 1992 World MTB Championships on TV
Reply-To: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:23:52 GMT

(Sorry for the cross-post but their are many who do not subscribe
 to rec.bicycles.racing who may be interested........)

The 1992 World MTB championships is going to be aired on TV
this Thursday evening on the Canadian sports channel TSN.  For
those of us who get TSN, it will be on:

                 Thursday, December 17
                 8:00 pm EST

Cheers....Stuart
From: chris@carnival.lbl.gov (Chris Moll)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: A friend went down
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:12:15 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: carnival.lbl.gov
Keywords: n

Joshua Putnam writes:
>I leave an expired driver's license with my health
>insurance info on it on my bike at all times.

Carry names/numbers of a few people as well.  When I woke up in the
ambulance, I was able to remember my girlfriend's number immediately.
If I hadn't they would have had no clue who to notify; I was riding
alone.

--
Chris Moll                       (510)486-7891
---
A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature
replaces it with.        -- Tenessee Williams
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From: jmyers@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM (Jonathan E Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.racing
Subject: Re: Dave Harvey Speaks Out on Drafting!
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:33:42 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.misc
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <29.1992.LID@lemond.harvey.com> dharvey@lemond.harvey.com (Dave "Hill" Harvey) writes:
>Personally, I don't respect anyone who sucks off my wheel, but what
>really frosts me is when they try to go in front. I didn't get this
>powerful by sucking wheel, me mateys. Breaking wind is Job 1 on my
>training schedule...
>    - Dave

I am interested in this "breaking wind" concept in training.  I happen to
know a few people who "break wind" (I guess this is the least crude term
I can use to describe what they do) during training rides.  While these
people who "break wind" do not seem to go much faster, they do seem to  
succede in keeping other people from drafting (wheelsucking) them. 
I am very impressed by people who can "break wind" with much power, but
I think it is much more influenced by diet ( beans, bear, etc.) than 
riding prowess.  It would be educational for us all if Dave could expand
a bit on this subject in an attempt to clear the air of this confusion 
over "breaking wind".  Thanks in advance.

			Jon Myers
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Russian Pro's Cycling Gear
From: F.Brown@massey.ac.nz (F.J. Brown)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:27:14 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: racing
Summary: Russian amateurs racing in NZ
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

Dear netters,

Jonathon Dod writes: (re Russian - Kazakhstan - top amateurs and their
recent exploitsa in Australia and New Zealand)

>some riders in New Zealand recently for the NZ Post Cycling Classic.

>On one leg a Russian rider punctured and upon trying to fit a 'standard'
>wheel on as a replacement found it didn't fit his Russian bike (apparently
>this wasn't just a problem of hub width or such like).  And the latest issue

Gary Buys from Pedal Pushers, the bike shop that sponsors me, was neutral
support mechanic on the Commonwealth bank Tour in Australia directly before 
the NZPost Tour.   Amongst other stories he told me that one of the
Russians was riding a bike with an ancient 5-speed set-up, he thought
it was the very first Shimano 105 (this is a very knowledgeable guy -
previously TdF mechanic).   He punctured and it took them about 5 minutes
to spread the guy's dropouts and force a standard wheel in, upon which
the guy soloed back up to the bunch.
   
>of Cycling Magazine NZ says that some Russian riders were still using cleats
>and straps and that their tubulars were cheap jobs made from the same rubber
>used for Lada tyres.

I think the Lada tyre-rubber might be a bit of an urban legend, but, yes,
they were horrific tyres, heavy and rough.   One of the guys in our
training group acquired one, and we now carry it on our tandem, which
has Sun Chinook 48-hole clincher rims, as an emergency spare.   Stretch
it right over the top and away you go.   Yes, we have had to use it (50 km 
home), yes, it was wide and heavy enough to be successful, and no, this
is not an urban legend.

>Any comments 

We had a good look at the Russian bikes when they came through Palmerston
North.   They were mostly Colnagos, lovely frames but very old and battle-
scarred, perhaps remnants from the Soviet days.   All showed lots of
dents and scratches.

Gary's other comment was that the Russians were constantly on the scrounge
trying to buy discarded parts, tyres to mend, rims that were being tossed,
anything they could lay their hands on.

Cheers,

Frith
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Department of Plant Science Level 2   Phone:   +64 06 356 9099 ext. 8800
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,sci.med.nutrition
From: gray@witch.asel.udel.edu (John Gray)
Subject: Re: Bananas vs. PowerBars
Organization: AI duPont Institute
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:29:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.131827.513@pegasus.com> richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) writes:
>I just got an info package and newsletter from Powerfood Inc., the guys
>that make PowerBars the `athletic energy food'.  In the package was a
>sheet comparing PowerBars to a few other foods, including doughnuts,
>bran muffins, bananas, apples, potato chips, Snickers bars, and
>Carnation Breakfast bars.
>
>The really interesting one was bananas.  PowerBars are pretty handy and
>seem to give you desired energy -- their chart says that 76% of their
>calories are from carbohydrates.  But bananas are 93%, and they cost
>a lot less than PowerBars, though PowerBars are a bit more convenient
>at times.  Hmm ...

Notice the same thing from a PowerBar Ad in Bicycling Mag.  The ad
convinced me to eat bananas.  Besides being a lot cheaper,  I think
they taste a lot better too.  Too bad they don't keep better.

Is there some flaw in the logic that bananas are better source of energy.

John Gray
gray@asel.udel.edu
From: ck984@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Petr Podruh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: PLEASE HELP US !
Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:04:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hi all!
The sudents from Czechoslovakia plan out ride
on bycycles from Czech (Pilsen) to Italy (Venice)
Daily reach will be 150 Km about. They need some
delivery van for their travel. Complete travel
will be long 15 day about in August/September.
They want find any free accommodation, becouse
for students from Czechoslovakia are camping
very expansive. Every sponsor or help is welcomed.


The students are able pay for fuel to automobile.

Please help us !!!

My e-mail is :   ck984@cleveland.freenet.edu

 T H A N K   Y O U   V E R Y   M U C H  ! !
 -- Peter
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: seligman@CS.Stanford.EDU (Scott Seligman)
Subject: Re: Identification(was: A friend went down)
Organization: Stanford University
	<1992Dec18.190310.23419@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:18:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.190310.23419@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> foltz@as.arizona.edu (Craig B. Foltz) writes:
> 
> If anyone has the address of a firm that sells mail-order dog tags, please
> post it.  I generally carry my business card, but not information on 
> blood type, insurance, etc.  I'm sure that the recent discussion has 
> alerted a lot of us to the importance of detailed identification.  


I write all the important information on a piece of paper.  To protect
the paper from my sweat, I do a poor man's lamination job by covering
it with Scotch tape.  It stays in my pocket when I ride.


Scott Seligman

Internet:  seligman@CS.Stanford.EDU
UUCP:      {uunet,decwrl,sun}!cs.stanford.edu!seligman
Packet:    kc6ock @ n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
From: gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu (Gregory D. Surbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Identification(was: A friend went down)
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:12:26 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Dec20.053250.8516@panix.com> paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker) writes:
[original article deleted]
> I write important info on a piece of masking tape and stick it inside my
>helmet. I wonder if anyone would think to look there though?
>
	IMHO, an accident bad enough to require immediate medical
attention would probably mean a destroyed helmet.  The paper could be
torn away from helmet and blow away in the breeze.
	I do like the idea of the dog tags and will probably go to the
local army surplus store to get a pair.
>-- 
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>Brooklyn NY usa                                Design & Consultation
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.racing
From: dharvey@lemond.harvey.com (Dave "Hill" Harvey)
Subject: Dave Harvey Speaks Out on Drafting!
Organization: Harvey Consulting
Date: 16 Dec 92 03:19:39 GMT

Personally, I don't respect anyone who sucks off my wheel, but what
really frosts me is when they try to go in front. I didn't get this
powerful by sucking wheel, me mateys. Breaking wind is Job 1 on my
training schedule. Do I let it get me down when they try? No, sir. I
let my elbows do the talking. Most riders will not risk spleen damage
just to lead the peloton.

Personal to Kim:
I'm not wearing pink panties under my Pearl Izumis. How about you?

    - Dave
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: heb@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Herbert Bauer)
Subject: Re: Personally importing a bike ???
Organization: Technical University of Munich, Germany
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:57:39 GMT

milbank@doc.BNR.CA (Terry Milbank) writes:

>Hello all,

>Does anybody out there know what sort of costs are involed in personally importing a bike from America 
>to England (i.e going out there myself and geting it), costs such as taxes import duties etc etc.

>I'm not sure how much all this would come to, but if there is anybody who knows, could you please let me 
>know at the mail address below.

>Also these fee's, do you actually pay these at customs or what ???

Terry,

I did this twice to Germany. The easiest thing is to just walk trough
customs. The first time, the bike was almost new when I brought it
back. I rode it only a couple of times (maybe 50miles) before bringing
it to Germany. I put stickers of a german bike shop on the frame, but
they weren't really necessary. I told them that I bought the bike used
and that satisfied them.
The second was even easier. I bought a used Canondale and put another
800 miles on it before coming back to Germany. Since the bike didn't
make the connecting flight from Frankfurt, it was delivered home
by Lufthansa.

That's it.

Merry Christmas,

Herbert


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Institute of Electronic Design Automation 
Technical University of Munich