From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: What is real racism? (Re: Was:Why rish asians should vote Republican)
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:00:54 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Nov11.210725.4787@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>There is an important difference between my comments and Mr. Danielle
>T. Wei (dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu)'s comments.  Mr. Wei's comments directly
>attack the people, specifically African-Americans.  On the other
>hand, I am criticizing culture.

First of all I must ask you again to not use any names here..
I prefer to be called "NW" or simply "dtwei"
As for my comments, I did not _attack_ anybody, I only stated some
facts concerning a few important issues. No where in my original post
did I say anything of the sort "all [ethnic group] are assholes/whatever"
You sir, on the other hand, directly attacked the Chinese culture with
groundless insults

>Culture != People.  (-ge = ethnicity (i.e. genetics), -cu = culture).

An attack on the Chinese culture is an attack on the Chinese people
(or anyone of Chinese ancestry)

>I criticize Chinese-cu culture but not Chinese-ge people.  Mr. Wei's
>criticism are directly specifically at individuals with black skin;
>in other words he directs his condemnation at Africans-ge.

As I've said before, I have much respect for African-Americans as a whole,
but I do believe they discriminate against Chinese, can you disprove this?

>Moving on, I find that Asian-Americans who identify themselves to be
>American-cu are much more open-minded and much less racist than Chinese-cu
>people.  Not too long ago, there was a small riot in China, protesting
>the dating of African-ge men and Chinese-ge women.  The riot ended with
>Chinese-cu Chinese-ge poliemen applying electrical jolts to the genitalia
>of the African-ge men.  Most of the Chinese-cu said nothing; they agreed
>with the "disciplinary" measures.

I consider myself a blend of Chinese and American cultures, and personally
I feel American culture is more racist than Chinese culture. As for the riot
in China, the other side of the story is that the foreign students broke
university rules, but were let off easy (were not attacked by police) because
of their special status..

>If that isn't racist, I don't what is.

Hint: first name's Dwight

>There's another case.  It involves China Airlines.  Acoording to ABC
>News and Reuter's news service, this airline (which is run by Chinese-cu
>folks) has at least 2 requirements that applicants for the position
>of flight attendant must meet.  They are
>
>   (1)  The applicants must be virgins.

I agree with this rule, but it's probably false
BTW, what does this have to do with racism??
If you think THIS is discrimination, don't you think the Admissions Offices
at universities are discriminating against stupid people!?!?

>   (2)  The skin of the applicants must not be too dark.

This is bullshit. Everybody in China has the same skin color, and I don't
think there are that many foreignors serving on the China Airlines..

>In other works, people with black skin need not apply.  As for #1, I'll
>just add that there were some Chinese-cu twits in s.c.a.a., s.c.c, and
>s.c.t arguing _in_ _favor_ of #1.

What's wrong with the first rule you immoral pig? What happened to the
family values?? (another weakpoint of the American culture) :)

>There are a lot more examples, but I only have a limited amount of time. ...
>Just note that Mr. Wei's racist comments are typical of beliefs that
>Chinese-cu people hold.

And your racist views are common among people of the western culture?

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NW
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