Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:04:24 -0400 
From: "David M. Bartlett" <db0s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Graphic Novels and comics for Sale

"From: Robert Kelly <rkelly@carina.unm.edu>
Subject: Re: Graphic Novels and comics for Sale
To: db0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (David M. Bartlett)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 10:03:08 MDT
Cc: rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly)
 
 
 
"Oh, please..."
 
People who perform stupid actions should not expect to be treated nicely.
 
You should read what is going on in RAC -- namely flames galore because
stupid people post in wrong places -- before you post.  You rank among the
many idiots -- yes, I am calling you a jerk and an idiot -- who post to
RAC when they aren't supposed to.
 
Taking responsibility for your actions is a sign of a mature adult --
What you did was dumb.  RAC_MARKETPLACE exists for a reason, one which 
is fairly simple to understand by its name. 
 
You are not stupid--you can understand the word MARKETPLACE just fine, 
especially since you crossposted there.  Your action, on the other hand, 
was stupid and you are upset that you have been flamed.  Maybe you should 
have thought before you posted, and since you don't understand 
"netequette" yourself, maybe you should take responsibility for your 
actions and stop whining "Quit calling me 'jerk'."
 
Thanks for the lecture, but I refuse to feel guilty for responding 
crudely to a stupid action.  Nor do I feel I have to apologise.
 
 
Robert Kelly
rkelly@triton.unm.edu
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"When will I learn?  The answers to life's problems aren't at the
bottom of a bottle.  They're on TV!"
        The Simpsons"

Mr. Kelly:

There are approximately 200-300 posts every day to R.A.C.  I wish I had
time to read each one closely, but I'm employed at a full-time job and
have a family.  As it stands, it is not unusual for so many posts to
have reached the bboard since my last log-on that all the messages are
considered "new" except the initial "creation" posting: it is a failing
of the Carnegie-Mellon University net-access system that it limits the
number of posts accessable per bboard to about 7 days worth in the case
of a board as active as R.A.C.  

Given that I'm a casual reader--maybe once a week--of R.A.C., I seem to
have missed whatever administrative discussions occurred placing new
restrictions on what was considered valid content for posting; as I
stated before, I'd posted a comics list to R.A.C. before without drawing
hostile fire.  Further, the existance of "Marketplace" does not
automatically suggest that cross-posting to the main bboard is
unacceptable: similar "market" branches exist on other bboards, and on
occassion in the past I've posted sales notices to these as well as to
the main bboards without comment:  in fact, when I once posted to only
the "market" branch, I receive messages from people who complained that
I should have cross-posted to the main bboard as well.  In the past, the
"netiquette" required only that the message heading clearly state
"<Items> for Sale", so the post could be ignored by the uninterested. 
This was acceptable about a month ago on the R.A.Games.RPG bboard,
illustrating that "netiquette" varies from board to board, at least a
present.

This was the observation that I was making in my post:  that there is no
fixed set of rules for the Net as a whole, and that it is difficult for
a casual partipant to keep up with the changing rules and protocols of
any individual bboard; that it is wrong to assume mistakes are made
maliciously in all cases; and that a better policy would be to politely
state what the "netiquette" is on a first offense.  Otherwise, acrimony
and alienation are spread for their own sake.  "Flaming" typically ends
discussion without resolution or understanding; it doesn't promote
either.

Dave Bartlett

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