HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mluoto@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Markku Luoto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TT and llamatron
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:41:05 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <1ebst2INN25d@golem.wcc.govt.nz> wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>(At least - if it DOES work on the TT, it'd be in ST-Low, with Cache turned
>off)
llamatron BASIC version DOES WORK ON TT at least in mine does with
following configs (weird ones too)

st- low
cache off
from the cpx menu turn off cache too and INTERNAL SPEAKER OFF
connect the rca-plugs to your stereo on turn it on...

now the lamatron should work...

(I know the config. sounds weird, but at least in my tt llmataron bombs
2 bombs after the intro screen if you do not have the rca-plugs
konnected) -weird ha ?
.

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From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Silent Service 2
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:14:54 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

> Don't even think about getting Silent Service 2 unless you have at least
> 1meg, and a Hard-drive.  it's unplayable from floppy!

What about on a 4meg machine w/RAMDISK and NO hard-drive?

				-Matt
From: kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 21 meg floptical info
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:45:24 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca writes:
>BTW, the floptical R/W 1.44 and 720 disks; currently no way to format them
>on the floptical because these formats are used for floppies and the
>floptical is treated as a hard disk. Sounds like a quick job for the
>Codeheads!!!

Since the floptical is treated as a hard disk, is it possible to partition
it to 16 and 5 MBs?  I have TOS 1.02 and 2 MBs of RAM.

I have a choice:  a floptical or a TOS & RAM upgrade to my Mega 2.

Recommendations anyone?  I'd be sorely tempted to get the floptical since I
PLAN to get a Falcon some time (probably late) next year.

                                                  Later,
                                                  Kenneth Love
From: naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Dungeon type games
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:17:33 GMT
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre

A while back I saw someone mention Bloodwych I and II while talking about the
dungeon master type games.

DOES BLOODWYCH II EXIST AND WHERE CAN I GET IT??????

Thanks,
Phil
(E-mail naffara@uk.ac.crc)
-- 
Kryten (When Cat says why don't we raise the defensive shields?) "A superlative
suggestion sir,with only two drawbacks: one,we don't have any defensive shields
and two,we don't have any defensive shields.I know that,technically,that's only
one drawback,but it was such a big one I thought I'd mention it twice".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca (TONY D'ALFONSO)
Subject: ST for sale?
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:38:36 GMT

Lately I've been using my ST as a terminal, and I am sick of monochrome (b&w)
so...  I am considering selling my Atari ST...  

I've got a 1040 with SM124 monochrome monitor, Magic Sac+ Translator one,
some Mac software and some ST software (including PC Ditto, Final Cut Midi,
etc) and of course, the famous Atari Mouse.  If anyone is interested, make an
offer.
Also, the buyer would be responsible for shipping costs.  email me if youwant
to make an offer or try to convince me not to sell it!
 
 
    \_\_\_\_\_\_\_       The Tonester
       \_    \_    \_    cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca
        \_    \_    \_   "I don't ever want to play the part
         \_    \_\_\_     Of a statistic on a government chart
    There has to be an invisible sun ...            |Invisible Sun
    that gives it's hope when the whole day's done  |The Police

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: DKoppen@air31.larc.nasa.gov (Daniel Koppen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: RE: 21 meg floptical info
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:41:49 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: air35.larc.nasa.gov


csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca stated that ...
>BTW, the floptical R/W 1.44 and 720 disks; currently no way to format them
>on the floptical ...

   I have formated both types of floppies on my floptical, _no_problem_.
True, you must use ICD's ICDFORMAT.PRG to do it, but the floppy is correctly
identified as a 720 Kbyte or 1.44 Mbyte hard disk (probably looks at the
holes in the top of the diskette to determine what type of disk it is).
After formating, the program asks how to partition the new hard drive. I
get a kick out of _that_ one. I suppose you could partition a 720 as two
360's but I haven't tried it.
   I routinely format 720's in the floptical, make a single partion, and
then move the floppy to the internal DS/DD floppy on my STe and R/W files.
Single sided disks, 10 sector disks, and 80+ track disks are bad news to
the floptical, however.
   BTW, I bought my floptical from Joppa computers. I believe they sell the
floptical for 400 dollars and the floptical with LINK for 500, but please
check with them for current pricing.
Thanks for reading,
Daniel Koppen
dmk@air31.larc.nasa.gov
Daniel Koppen
dmk@air31.larc.nasa.gov
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: HELP! Lost files
Date: 23 Nov 1992 20:45:58 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

About the only program that is likely to restore your HD without a LOT
of work (which doing so with Knife ST requires).  Is 'Diamond Back' (or at 
least - it sounds like it can).  Unfortunately, it costs a lot of money.
(around $65US from memory)

Chkdsk3 might be able to do it, if all that's been done is corrupted the
FAT's.  (Knife ST will do this quickly too!)
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: The FALCON - too slow ??
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:39:19 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo Hendry) writes:

>It is slow because Atari STILL haven't made use of STe's hardware scrolling
>(which I assume is available on the Falcon) in TOS.

The ONLY possible use the OS could make of hardware scrolling is in the pure
TOS text mode, and even then, it would be a pretty ugly hack.  One use for
the hardware scrolling is in the implementation of BigScreen emulators - which
is nothing to do with the OS, and are already available.  Even the ST can use
the bigscreen emulator, although only the 640xH modes are useful, and scrolling
is in 1280-byte chunks (ie. ie. 5 * 256 bytes = 16 line mono / 8 lines colour)



>  The funny thing is that Atari recently complained about games programmers
>not using the facilities of the STe.

... and then didn't put all those features in the TT!!!  Never mind, the Falcon
should be more attractive for developers.


--
Warwick
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From: arjm@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Andrew Maccormack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Silent Service 2
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:38:45 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

It also helps if you turn animations off playing from floppy.


!! Andy MacCormack - armless on monochrome !!
char*M,A,Z,E=40,J[40],T[40];main(C){for(*J=A=scanf(M="%d",&C);
--            E;             J[              E]             =T
[E   ]=  E)   printf("._");  for(;(A-=Z=!Z)  ||  (printf("\n|"
)    ,   A    =              39              ,C             --
)    ;   Z    ||    printf   (M   ))M[Z]=Z[A-(E   =A[J-Z])&&!C
&    A   ==             T[                                  A]     
|6<<11<rand()||!C&!Z?J[T[E]=T[A]]=E,J[T[A]=A-Z]=A,"_.":" |"];}
From: cabp09@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("David McNicol")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Accessing joystick from 'C'
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:32:45 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde


Hi there,
	 Does ANYONE out there know how to read the joystick ports
of an atari ST in C/Assembly ?? I presume there must be tonnes of
people out there.

	 Also, I've been using Bcostat() to check if the input is
pending from the keyboard, but is there a way of readin 2 or more
keys "pressed at once" ?? ie is there a keyboard buffer, do I need
to switch off the auto-repeat thingy (if so how).

	 Thanks in advance,
	
				Dave.

PS:	 Be gentle, it's my first time (??!!?!??)

--

	<======================================================>
	|| David McNicol            cabp09@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ||
	<======================================================>

	<======================================================>
	||  is it just me or does this happen to everyone ??  ||
	<======================================================>
	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: tsch0098@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Thorsten Schnurawa)
Subject: Re: *sigh* Help with GEMVIEW!!!
Reply-To: tsch0098@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:55:24 GMT

In article 8805@ac.dal.ca, cossett@ac.dal.ca () writes:
>   I now have Gemview 1.1 but it will not work. Whenever I
>try to load the prg it gives me a TOS #35 error, or it
>simply bombs. Could anyone help me out? 

I Think you need an other copy of GemView 'cause TOS #35 shows
that the file is 'corrupted'.
>
>                     Thanks in advance,
>                       Tim Cossett
>                        COSSETT@AC.DAL.CA

Hope this helps,

Ciao, Thorsten


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cbvetter@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Chris Vetter)
Subject: Re: *sigh* Help with GEMVIEW!!!
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:43:41 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <1992Nov12.035609.8805@ac.dal.ca>, cossett@ac.dal.ca writes:
>    I now have Gemview 1.1 but it will not work. Whenever I
> try to load the prg it gives me a TOS #35 error, or it
> simply bombs. Could anyone help me out? 
> 

Seems to me your file is corrupt, try to get another copy...
By the way, there is GEMView 2.00 somewhere out there.

sincerely,
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: 21 meg floptical
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:22:02 GMT

Anyone considering upgrading an ST to a 1.44 meg drive should consider
purchasing a 21 meg floptical; I did. No AJAX chip installation or drive
installation. Just plug the drive into a LYNX connector and boot with ICD's
version 6 software and your can read/write 720K, 1.44 meg and 21 meg disks
on the same drive. The money you save on not getting the 1.44 meg drive takes
you well along the way to buying the floptical.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: annius@eri.research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: more windows
Reply-To: A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:01:56 GMT

PAULETTI@biel.be.tech.ascom.ch (Pauletti Andreas) writes:

>There exists a PD software called WINX that is available from MAXON
>PD service in Germany. I do not know if the thing works with  a
>futuer MultiTOS that will not have the 7 window limits either.

Why would you want to use such a thing with MultiTOS if it already has a
virtually infinite amount of windows? (and it does)
-- 
Annius Groenink  --  Universiteit Utrecht  --  PTT Research Leidschendam
annius@research.ptt.nl/avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl       Maths/Comp.Sc./TOS/Music
From: weiner@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: atari.archive
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:41:30 -0500
Organization: Umich Atari Posse, In Full Effect
NNTP-Posting-Host: terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu

In article <hjv.722099484@groucho.phil.ruu.nl> hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra) writes:
>
>Someone had troubles emailing to Jeff Weiner. Someone else suggested that he'd
>type the address in lowercase. IMO this should _not_ make any difference.
>Indeed the umich address seems to be having troubles - my (lowercase :) mail
>also bounced. However, the following address appeared to be 'valid':
>
>        weiner@umnstat.stat.umn.edu
>
>Hope this helps,
>Hendrik Jan
>

I did mean to post this earlier and then add it to the atari.archive
and comp.sys.atari.st faqs, but Hendrik beat me to it. The mail
problems have been cleared up (I think), but just in case: 

Use in this order , please:

weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu
weiner@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu
weiner@um.cc.umich.edu
weiner@umnstat.stat.umn.edu
weiner@zircon.labmed.umn.edu

If you can't get a reply from one of the above addresses, either the 
internet as a whole no longer exists, or I'm blowing you off :).

Jeff

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 -  Jeff Weiner  -  weiner@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu  -  Umich Atari Posse  -
From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Is there any Atari support..!!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:21:02 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
In a message of <30 Oct 92 22:20:48>, sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
(3:713/602) writes:

 sr> This refers to some phone contacts with PARAGON Computer's
 sr> in Perth Western Australia...
                                           No apostrophe     ^
             
 sr> This is the bigest distributer of Atari Computers in OZZ..

Not true - they are one of the larger 3rd-party importers, yes.

 sr> I contacted them back in May/June about getting TOS 2.06,
 sr> they informed me that they were getting some from Atari OZZ soon.

Yup - or, more to the point, that they had been told by atari Oz that they
were going to get some.  A.O. told me that too.

 sr> A friend would like his Mega STE upgraded to TOS 2.06 and a 1.4 meg
 sr> drive..
 sr> I have heared that there are kits for this in the USA...
 sr> Well Paragon stated that there was a 2 year waiting list for 1.4 meg
 sr> drives, or some thing to that effect, I then asked about TOS 2.06, he
 sr> stated that Atari OZZ had let them down and they were hoping to get
some
 sr> from Compo U.K. 

You can get a 1.4 drive from A.O. - presuming you want to pay $280 for a
very ordinary drive.  Alternatively, you can track down an Epson SMD-340 and
change over the faceplate - the SMD-300 may also work, I'll follow up on
that, as I'll be getting one in the next few days for the TT.

 sr> I also asked about the replacment GAL chip, and the chap stated what
GAL
 sr> chip !,
 sr> never heared any thing about a new GAL..??

Neither have I - is his faulty?

 sr> I have allready delt with Atari OZZ and it took 12 Toll calls to get
 sr> replacment DMA chips, also there Service manager did not know what TOS
 sr> 2.06 Roms were...???

Yup... The problems with A.O. are well known, and as a rule we avoid them
like the plague.  It's taken them 4 1/2 months so far, and our Dev. kit
still hasn't arrived. 

 sr> Tell me is this Support..???
 sr> So tell me chaps do you think that people should stick to Atari, if you
 sr> do you must nead your head seeing to...

As a rule, I go to atari in the US when I need support - and to be frank,
that isn't often.  If I want spare parts, well then I just have to pull a
few strings.  Try making some friends one day, RS, it might help more than
you think.

 sr> Roger...............           sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

\`miff`                                                       /|\

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From: mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us (Mark Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: New TOS versions?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:20:24 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington

naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:
> As I understand it, things like NVDI and Warp 9 replace parts of TOS which
> was written in C, with bits written in assembler, which is faster.
> 
> Would it be possible to rewrite the whole of TOS in assembler, and would this
> make it faster than NVDI etc?

  Sure, but it'd be a pain in the rear, changing the system would be next 
to impossible, and bugs would be VERY hard to find and fix.
 
  With a good C compiler, it's not TOO far from hand-hacked assembly 
(maybe 20% slower than the code of an average assembly hacker)...  I 
doubt there'd be much advantage to it, and it'd be a lot of trouble (and 
time - which would take some of Atari's few staff away from making new 
products)...
 
  As 3rd-party products, that kind of thing is pretty useful, though.
 
 - Mark Hughes (Caves of Steel 509-624-2078)  mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Subject:  Re: Reply to Matt (floptical)
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:51:27 GMT

>  o how do I find out what version of TOS I have?  I suspect it could be less
>  that 1.2....it's a pretty old MEGA ST4.
>
>  What would I have to do to upgrade, if need-be?
>
>				-Matt

You will be glad to know that TOS 1.2 is also known as Mega-TOS. It is what
came with all Megas prior to TOS 1.4

Brian, WS1S
Bell Northern Research
Research, Triangle Park, NC
bjgrier@bnr.ca
From: stacylee@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Stacy Lee Sievert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: GFA Basic Compiler Needed!!!!!
Date: 22 Nov 1992 09:02:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: stacylee@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Help!!!!!

I accidentaly deleted my only copy of a compiler for GFA Basic.
It was entitled GFA_BCOM.PRG, and was for one of the early versions
of GFA Basic (sold seperately, although I think my version was PD).

Can someone please help me out?  Help Much appreciated!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable)
Subject: Answer to trivia question (early Amiga)
Reply-To: rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:52:11 GMT

Back when everyone had 8-bit computers and all the
flame wars were between Atari 800/1200/130 folks
and Commode Door 64 owners, a 16-bit 68000 machine
was being developed called the Amiga 'Lorraine'
(or was it Larraine?).  This was before the Apple
Lisa, the MacPredecessor.  (More trivia.)

For the grand prize, a week in non-virtual reality,
what were the code names for the Atari 400 and 800
during their development?


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:47:11 EST
From: J.J. Lehett <JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 16MHz & GEnie
 <1992Nov20.020401.12428@admiral.uucp>

In article <1992Nov20.020401.12428@admiral.uucp>, dave@admiral.uucp (Dave
Litchman) says:
>
>In article <1992Nov16.143321@cs.bham.ac.uk> dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley)
>writes:
>>Two questions...
>>
>>1> Anyone any ideas on getting my Mega/STE into 16MHz mode before
>>running games which boot from the bootsector?
>
>Here's an idea. Forget it. Most games "break the rules" and are so dependent
>on
>the system timing of an 8Mhz ST, that they just won't run in 16Mhz.
>
>

    Bry Edewaard has written such a program... it allows one to use a seperate
boot disk to kick the MSTe into 16Mhz mode then allows you to insert game disk
with bootsector to continue the bootup process...

    Send mail to bryedewaard@delphi.com for more info.
------------------
J.J. Lehett     : Atari's, puzzles, games, chaos, fractals, math....

  - Work: JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu           Penn State CAC
  - Genie: J.LEHETT2
  - Delphi: JLEHETT@delphi.com
From: max@hopper.cba.csuohio.edu (Max Polk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Gulam improvements?
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:26:53 GMT
Organization: Cleveland State University

Previously:

>This is a long-standing bug, there is no fix since there haven't been any
>new releases of Gulam since 1987. Just don't use the mem command.

Currently:

I would like to know how to rebind keys for "ue".  Issuing rebind commands
in accordance with the documentation doesn't seem to have any effect.
Am I missing something obvious?

Hopefully:

Are the sources for gulam available?  Can any of the really helpful
corrections or improvements be made to this shell, or do we just go on
to bigger and better things?
From: jan@janhh.hanse.de (Jan Willamowius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Gulam bombs! Help.
Distribution: world
Date: 21 Nov 92 10:59:32 GMT
Keywords: Gulam memory errors

hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.053327.754@eskimo.com> gregs@eskimo.com (Greg Sumner) writes:
>>Q: I have just switched to an atari STe from a plain ST.  Now Gulam
>>   bombs when I use the "mem" command.

>This is a long-standing bug, there is no fix since there haven't been any
>new releases of Gulam since 1987. Just don't use the mem command.

Maybe you want to put "alias mem \my\favorite\mem.prg" into your gulam.g.
So you avoid using it by accident especially when switching shells.

- Jan

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E-Mail: jan@janhh.hanse.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Lha Files
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 22 Nov 1992 20:56:49 GMT
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Well I found some Lha files on a site (German one) and have never come across
them before, so how do you extract them..???


Roger.................               sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: bnell@siemens.com. (Bill Nell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: TT and llamatron
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:39:41 GMT

Hello out there,
  I was under the impression that llamatron worked on TT's (as long as you
had some sort of 24-bit MMU program).  I've downloaded the llamatron on a.a
but it doesn't work.  I've tried removing every TSR, .ACC & .CPX, turning the
cache off & on and anything else I could think of.  My TT has 3.06 ROM so
there shouldn't be any OS bugs causing the problem.  So... does llamatron
really work on the TT or not?  And if it does, then what is wrong with my
copy or (god forbid :-) my TT?

					Any help would be appreciated,
					Bill

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From: clausb@hpbeo20.bbn.hp.com (Claus Brod)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: X windows server on ST
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:15:31 GMT
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division R&D, Boeblingen, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Jens Kilian (jensk@hpbbn.bbn.hp.com) wrote:
: I don't know all system calls used by the standard X Server (it's been a long
: time since I last installed one), but you'll probably have the most
: difficulties with the socket-related stuff (MiNT doesn't have sockets, yet).
: If you *really* want to do this, IMHO it would be easiest to replace the
: sockets by FIFOs; that way you could at least run clients on the ST.

I know of at least one (German) programmer who already has developped
a socket package for MiNT. E-Mail me if interested.

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