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From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Help with Shepherds
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: dencisco@eos.arc.nasa.gov

DPE>I'm sorry I missed Valaria's original question. It has been my
DPE>experience (I have -and had- adopted three discarded GSDs) that most
DPE>people don't realize how much attention the German Shepherds require;
DPE>particularly the first couple of years. Now I've never raised a
DPE>Shepherd from birth (so I'm no expert here), mine have all been given
DPE>up between a year and a year and half, but I wouldn't get a Shepherd
DPE>if I didn't have a lot of time (wouldn't it be nice if dogs were more
DPE>accepted in the work place...any teachers out there who take their dogs
DPE>to school?). Many a GSD has been given up after a couple has their first
DPE>child. I have two who were given up because of this and my next door
DPE>neighbor just gave up their male for a baby. Too bad, most people
DPE>just don't plan very well and it's the dog that suffers.

Just so you'll know we did not get rid of the Shepherd, she lived a long
and happy life with us. I did get a new couch and a crate for the
dog!<G>
Whether it is a large or small dog, they all need lots of attention. And
your right people don't plan ahead, they see this cute puppy, fall in
love, bring it home and then a few years or in some cases months they
tire of the responsiblity or thier situation changes and the dog is
disposed of. Its wrong, but it happens everyday....I have 7 dogs, 1 cat
and 2 lovebirds in my home. 3 of the dogs are Boxers, and 4 are Bostons.
They all require lots of attention and they get it, everyday....
Kathleen Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: The butt skootch dance....
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:57:29 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

When y'all first started talking about the running with a 
"skootched butt" thing, I coudl not imagine what y'all were talking
about except when their anal glands need taking care of!  *laugh*

Then I thought about how Cinnamon reacts when I *really* start playing
with her or if i have been gone and she is excited to see me (which is
ALWAYS!).  She runs so fast her butt seems to be underneath her
stomach.  It really is a sight to see, to see this white/blonde blurr
racing around the house as fast as her seemingly *two* legs will carry 
her!  Seriously, she looks as if she only has two legs! *laugh*
We have to make her stop a few minutes after she starts because she gets
faster and faster and really starts digging her nails in the carpet.
She has this game where she likes you to pin her down or push her and
growl at her....this is when the butt dancing starts.....or butt race or
whatever you want to call it *laugh*  She will run back and forth, hitting
you so hard she will knock you down if you do not keep your balance.
Then she turns around and is off again before you can get up.

Thanks for letting me ramble....I am just so proud of her.  I have to 
sit down and count her words that she has learned up, but it is 
making it near or over the 25 mark.  She has learned three tricks
each in only 1-2 lessons (Beg, Shake[with my right hand], and 
Find-it[pawing my left hand to get the treat inside]).  She is doing a 
lot better on heel and is really really not the same dog I brought home
a little over a year ago.  Except she still smiles and is still full of
sunshine.....even strangers notice that about her....she is a happy
irish woman!  *laugh*

Have a GREAT weekend!

Suzanne

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: goc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (joy.a.gochman)
Subject: Re: Delta Society and Pet Therapy
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:26:59 GMT

In article <BF2SBXL1@cc.swarthmore.edu>, roop@cc.swarthmore.edu (Karen Roop) writes:
> 
> Is anyone involved with pet therapy or associated with the Delta Society?  I
> welcome any experiences you can share or advise.  
> 


Gizmo is a TDI (Therapy Dog International). We go to nursing homes 
once a month.

Since she is not really into being petted and such, so i have taught her
a couple (read a lot) of dog tricks - I also bring food for
the residents to feed her.

We now go with a group of friends to a nursing home that is about
an hour away. My friend made the contact.  I would like to build a
relationship with a closer home and really would like to get into a
hospital to visit kids (i think they would love her tricks).  

I don't know how to go about making these contacts. If anybody has
experience on how to get into hospitals etc. please post.


						joy 
						gizmo ud,tdi,cgc
-- 
					joy gochman
					mtdcb!joy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.cats
From: puter@orphan.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Re: retorical question
Followup-To: alt.net.personalities
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:40:51 GMT

 CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:

>Is doggy Heaven kitty Hell ?

Yes...
Now, when you finish recess and milk period, go to the chalkboard and write
500 times...

I will spell rhetorical correctly.

-- 
(Puter is a deranged individual at puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com)
Most of the time I don't have much fun.  The rest of the time I don't have any
fun at all.							-- Woody Allen
From: distef@carson.u.washington.edu (Sandra Distefano)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: why are so many dalmations deaf?
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:43:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov13.154357.23627
Organization: University of Washington

What is it about dalmation breeding that causes so many of 
them to be deaf?  I've known about 3 congenitally deaf
dalmations and 0 other deaf dogs (unless they were deaf
because of age).

Sandra
distef@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: Rescue Groups & favorite rescue story
Keywords: rescue list 
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:30:35 GMT

Betsy Weatherhead writes:
> like to see more shelter volunteer stories.

OK.  Last Saturday I gave a bath to two dogs, a springer spaniel and a
terrier mix.  Both had fleas but neither had a lot.  I walked each dog
before and after his bath, it's still warm enough here in Alameda.
The terrier mix had flaking skin near the base of his tail, I'm told
that's common and harmless, anyone know for sure?

Talked to a few visitors.  One was a pregnant woman looking to adopt a
dog before she had her baby.  Her idea was that way the dog would
adjust to the baby better, that otherwise the dog would be adopted and
thrown into a new situation with baby all at once.  Not sure I agree;
certainly the owner must train the dog how to treat the baby either
way.  But I was glad to hear her planning ahead, anticipating possible
problems, thinking how to prevent problems.

A couple adopted an adult female Siamese cat.  I offered to give it a
flea bath, they accepted and wanted to watch the process.  Turned out
it had far fewer fleas than my flea combing had led me to believe,
about 20 fleas in all.  When that happens you wonder if you should
have even given it the bath.  But it seems better to avoid introducing
fleas into the house in the first place if you can.  And if someone is
willing to adopt, I'm willing to spend the time.

How much time?  Cats take about an hour and fifteen minutes each, dogs
about 45 minutes, both can be longer if lots of dirt or fleas.  The
"fire dog", a yellow lab we rescued after the east bay hills fire, got
three complete baths of over an hour each, and there was still soot
coming out of the fur.  He arrived without collar or ID, and I'm sorry
to say we never did unite him with his owner.  He did get adopted
though.

-- Jon
--
Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jeffp@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke - Vet med staff)
Subject: Re: Lyme disease shots
Organization: Washington State University!
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 00:27:59 GMT

There is considerable controversy regarding lymes in dogs.  The previous
postings are ample reflection of this.

There are also various reports regarding the efficacy of vaccination programs.

In any case, an indoor dog isn't going to be at great risk.

By the way, the ticks that transmit lymes are extremely small - not the
types one usually finds and pulls off.  The former types are the Ixodes
species, the latter are usually Dermacentor species.
-- 
---------------------
Jeff Parke <jeffp@vcs10.vetmed.wsu.edu>
also:   jeffp@WSUVM1.bitnet     CIS: 71511,1512    AOL: JeffParke
Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine class of 1994
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: nancy@hayduke (Nancy Feagans)
Subject: Re: Story for someone who wants to say "OH NO!!!!!"
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:15:39 GMT

The Black Lab I had years ago once ate the entire seat off a Honda 50
which was parked in our backyard.  Ate the covering, the foam stuffing,
everything.  She walked around belching and farting for a week after.
Needless to say, we didn't park the bike in the back yard after that!


-- 

Nancy J. Feagans     (818) 306-6423
Jet Propulsion Lab   nancy@jpl-devvax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov
"Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious."
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: mryan@stsci.edu
Subject: Broken Windows (was Re: Story for someone ...)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:41:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.132957.9685@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>, king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king) writes:
> 
> I was taking care of a friend's Weimaraner when some of my 4-H kids and 
> their horses dropped by for a riding lesson.  I went out to the barn after 
> locking the storm door.  Helmut went with me, after coming through the 
> storm door.  It took 206 stitches to sew him back together.  That's not 
> the end of the story.  He did it again, about three weeks later.  He was 
> better at it, though.  It only took 118 stitches that time.  This all 
> [...] 

None of my pets has crashed through a window, but my 6-year-old son has
crashed & broken two this year.  He ran into the storm door like a linebacker,
breaking the glass and cutting his elbow (no stitches fortunately).
I had the glass replaced with plexiglass, which is unbreakable.  It costs
more than glass ($14.50 for a 30x36" window) and it will get cloudy with
age, but it will save $$$ in doctor or veterinary bills.


Mary Ryan			mryan@stsci.edu
Space Telescope Science Institute
Baltimore, Maryland
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Rotties
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:00:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: Melanie.A.Courtney@dartmouth.edu

MAC>I am interested in purchasing a Rottie puppy in the near future.  I am
MAC>a young adult (21) and, although I love dogs and read as many books
MAC>concerning them as possible, I do not know as much as I would like to
MAC>about this breed.  I do not consider the undertaking of raising any
MAC>animal a light task... especially  a Rottweiller.  If anyone can
MAC>provide information, titles of "must read" books, people to get in
MAC>touch with, etc., please don't hesitate to contact me.

This was gotten out of Dog World Mag.
Booklet on "Owning a Rottweiler" send $3.00 MO to Western Rottweiler
Owners, Debbie Dolinajec, Correspondence Sec., P.O. Box 1754, Lafayette,
CA 94549

Kathleen Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.ux
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: New England and National Rescue Groups  FAQ
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:31:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <H.ea.G5DqgAa4rl_@harvee.billerica.ma.us>, esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson) writes:

(New England only rescue groups deleted)
> 
> BREED RESCUES OUTSIDE NEW ENGLAND
> 
> IBIZAN HOUND
>      Karen Mele 615-653-4414 Tennessee
>      Manette Ward 818-881-4368 California

I just wanted to add this to Eric's list:

IRISH SETTER
       Irish Setter Club of America Rescue
         Marilee Larson, 415/351-2966


> IRISH TERRIER
>      Mary O'Brien 510-521-3246 California
> 


Thanks for all this terrific information, Eric!


Holly

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: pgarnier@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Philip Garnier)
Subject: Re: Cracked Tooth, what to do?
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:52:35 GMT

trsharp@digi.lonestar.org (Tracy Sharp) writes:

>Hi Netters!  This is my first post so please bear with me.  I am having a
>hard decision and could use some help, advise, and maybe experience stories.

>I found a hole in my dog's upper canine molar.  After seeing a specialist, the
>options open to me are extraction or a root canal.  The root canal being
>almost 3x as much in cost.  My dog is 10 1/2 and is expected to live another
>4-8 years based on his parents health.  If he were much younger, I would
>definitely go for the root canal, but at 10, I am confused, how much does he
>really need this tooth?  Am I being cruel thinking that we can take care of it
>by just pulling the tooth?  

>Has anyone had root canals done on their dog's teeth?  If so, how did it turn
>out and how old was your dog when you had it done.


My border terrier incurred slab fractures on BOTH third (I believe) premolars -
pretty big teeth.  Our options were root canal or extraction.  The root cana
was more expensive, but though it doesn't grow on trees in my neigborhood, is   not the primary criterion for my decisions about my dogs.  I opted for the
root canal because she was a young dog and those are pretty important chewing
teeth.  Luckily, only one tooth was in need, the fracture not going so deep
on the other tooth.  The total cost for the one tooth was around $200, but
that is probably higher than for other teeth because the premolar has three
roots.
On Monday night, however, I noticed that the tooth without the root canal
was possibly decaying and the one with the root had cracked.  We now have
an appointment for what will be probably one or two extractions.
By the way, the root canal was performed about 11 months ago, so I am not
talking about a long time from root canal to possible extraction.  

Given what I now know, however, I would still have the root canal performed.
As I mentioned, the premolars are important chewing teeth (in fact, they
first fractured while she was chewing on chew hooves - BEWARE) and I think
her quality of life would have generally been better with than without
teeth.  Howver, money may be an issue as well as competence of the vet.
The vet who performed the root canal is a dental veterinary specialist at
the U of Illinois Vet School and one of the leading dental specialists in
the country.

As for the anasthesia issue, I would think that either extraction or root
canal would involve putting the dog under for a considerable period.

Good luck.


C
talking abo

>thanks for any help on this,
> tracy, mom to                        trsharp@digi.lonestar.org

> Petey, aka Chosen Patient Jubilation, CDX   ......tri-factor sable sheltie
> Bonnie, aka Carson Texas Bluebonnet         ......blue merle sheltie
From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Story for someone who wants to say "OH NO!!!!!"
Date: 10 Nov 1992 19:11:08 GMT
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: tdis.icpsr.umich.edu
Keywords: uh oh

>In article <1992Nov10.112626.10101@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> macaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (MACKINNELL AMANDA) writes:
>>	This is a true story.. and the owner of the puppies concerned
>>	has not *yet* turned them into Golden Retriever-skin floor rugs
>
>great chewing story deleted.
>
>>	Anyone else got puppy-chewing horror stories I can console him
>>	with????

And then there was the Rottweiler who ate the wedding cake....
From: cotton@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (carol.jean.swanson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Good Comic Strip Joke Today
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:49:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


In "Mother Goose and Grimm" 11/10/92

One dog is talking to Grimm:
"I'm a St. Bernard.  What are you?"
Grimm:
"I think I'm Presbyterian." 


From the Christian Science Monitor, picked up by
Asbury Park Press (and others I'm sure).....

President Bush is sitting in a chair talking
to Millie.  Barbara is behind him.
It is captioned "And now the really hard part..."
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Stopping greyhound track
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:28:57 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

See if you can get ahold of the Sunday November 8 Boston Globe.
There's a Page One featyre story with color photographs on the incredible
waste of dog racing. The story says that 20,000 to 50,000 greyhounds a
YEAR are put to death as part of the industry, and the cover picture
is a perfectly healthy 2-year-old being given a lethal injection
because she was not profitable.
   It certainly changed my opinion about dog racing! When I thought
about it before, I didn't think it sounded too cruel, but now I know
what's behind the few dogs you see surviving to run. Makes a track
sound like a slaughterhouse. 
   
PS I'd offer to send it to you but I only have the front page; I seem
to have thrown away the middle section which had the  two-page
continuation of the article. 
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Subject: Recurring vaginal infection in bitch?
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 7 Nov 92 15:33:47 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20Lines: 12

Anyone have experience w. recurring vaginal infections in an unspayed,
non-pregnant bitch?  Antibiotics clear it up, but then it returns very soon
afterwards.  Vet says, "Sometimes these things just happen."  No clue as to
cause.  If there were something preventative, my neighbor would sure like to
know about it.  The bitch was rescued from a puppy mill & had been bred 3 times
by the time she was rescued, at 2 yrs old.  Does this contribute to current
health problem?


------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
From: Alex@camp.wpic.pitt.edu (Alex Ferguson )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Shopping w/your pet...
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:03:04 GMT
Organization: DAC, Child Psych, UPMC


Hi all,

	Just a little note for any of you in the Pittsburgh, PA area.  There 
is a new store opening in the Century Square Plaza (Next to the Dollar Tree) 
by Century Three Mall.  It's called the Pet Food SuperMart - the grand 
opening is Saturday, Nov. 14 at 10:00 (?I think 10 ?) anyway - they're 
having door prizes & contests for their new customers & their pets 
(_YES_They_encourage_you_to_BRING_your_pet_shopping_with_you_in_ 
the_store!!!) - anyway just thought some of you may be interested.



						Alex

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From: kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Common mistake
Keywords: Spelling
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:36:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.BxBAKK.408
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

>In article <1dcaaiINNr51@morrow.stanford.edu> liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller) writes:
>= In article <1992Nov4.033553.28545@news.arc.nasa.gov> shafer@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer OFA) writes:
>= >My favorites are the dogs that heal.  Laying on of paws, I suppose.
>= >
>= 	And, of course, bitches that are spade.  What does a bitch have to
>= do with a shovel anyway?

"Mary had a little lamb, whose fleas were white as snow...."

Funny, I always thought fleas were black!  :)

Kelly
From: lindy@sea1.larc.nasa.gov (Lindy A. Fleck)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Rescue lists
Date: 6 Nov 1992 17:29:29 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sea1.larc.nasa.gov

The "Project BREED" (Breed Rescue Efforts & EDucation) Directory
was first published in 1989.  It consists of about 285 pages, listing
1555 sources for rescue assistance for 72 breeds (through out the US). 
Cost is $15.95 plus $1.50 postage & handling.  It also has info on the
various breeds (descriptions, genetic problems, etc.), tattoo registeries,
poison hotlines, etc.
	Send check/mo to Network for Anti-Males & Females Inc.,
18707 Curry Powder Lane, Germantown, MD  20874.  Send info for inclusion
in the directory to the same address



-- 
Lindy Fleck

(l.a.fleck@LaRC.nasa.gov)
From: pastor@prc.unisys.com (Jon Pastor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Rescue Groups
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:43:01 GMT
Organization: not much...

> You know, this group never fails to astound me with
> its purebreed snobbery.  The rescue group/foster home structure is
> used to place mixed breeds as well.

You know, your attitude is a kind of snobbery too; you presume that anyone who
wants a "purebred" dog wants one for reasons that have more to do with cachet
than substance.  There are lots of good reasons for wanting a dog of a
particular breed.  I won't go into a paean to Standard Poodles, but I really
can't imagine owning anything else; if you want to hear the litany, ask me via
email.  I don't consider this snobbery any more than I'd consider it snobbery
if you told me that you liked Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcia ice cream better
than some other kind of cherry-chocolate.  I like Poodles; you can like
whatever you want, purebred or otherwise.

Lots of people want "purebred" dogs -- i.e., dogs who are mostly, if not all,
of one breed -- but (1) can't or won't spend the kind of money most breeders
want, (2) like the idea of adopting an animal who is homeless, but (3) can't
find the breed they want at a shelter.  We have been lucky: we've found two
(apparently) pure-bred Standard Poodles at shleters.  I know people who have
been looking without success.  For this reason, it would be particularly
useful to know about breed rescues.  If people ask where to look for a dog
like our Katie, I can name several shelters -- full of nice dogs of mixed and
random full breeds -- but if you want a particular breed, it's tough.

So while it would be nice if the rescue list included mixed-breed rescues,
I am particularly interested in breed-specific rescues, so that when other
Poodle-fanciers ask me where to look for a shelter-Poodle, I can do more than
tell them to put their names in at the local SPCAs and other shelters and just
wait 'til one comes up for adoption.