HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith)
Subject: Re: Giving up good girls, looking for "bad" ones
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 19:22:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.213509.26642@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> dheisler@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Dave Heisler) writes:
>after fairly dismal luck in meeting good women and
>converting them to SO's, i'm considering chasing
>"bad" ones.
>
>Does anyone have some good hints ?
 
Reckon that depends on what you mean by "bad."  Bad = untrained?
Try the playground.  Bring candy and your best nice-man disguise.
Drooling not generally considered appealing.
 
Bad=polyamorous?  (aka, willing to sleep with you even though sleeping
with several other men)  Get more involved in your colleagues' social
lives.  Maybe one or two will have a wife or SO interested in fooling
around.
 
Bad=indulging in illegal activity?  Try your local jail on a Sat. night.
Bring cash for bail and an appt card for the VD clinic in the am.
<I'm reminded by the parrot in the corner that biker bars work for this
kind of babe as well, but it helps to be prepared to fight off your
competition - a 45 works but a tire iron may be all that is needed.  The
later also useful in clubbing your intended over the head the better to
drag her off without obligatory protests)

--j
From: gswst@cislabs.pitt.edu (Gary S. Wachs)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Date: 25 Dec 92 03:08:32 GMT
Distribution: usa,na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh, Electrical Engineering

In article <1992Dec23.120548.834@sjh.org> tuell@sjh.org writes:
>If you see men that are into that then let them be.....you aboviously wouldn't 
>want them anyway.  If you are having trouble meeting men then I will suggest 
>Scuba Diving.  I started it because I always wanted to learn ...but what a 
>great way to meet people!  Try some new activities.  Join the "Adventures 
>Club".

Depending on your geography, I think that's a great suggestion.  My jobs have
taken me around the country a little so Scuba turned out to be a 
great idea.  I join in with a new group of mostly young people for
a day and sometimes stay in touch with them for a party or a dinner
or something.  And yes, I do meet single women too!  I'm 25 and and also
looking for friends and maybe more.  People are diving all over the world
so there is always a new group to hang with, particularly if you're the
adventurous single type like me.

It is expensive and does take exercise.   Get in shape before trying it.
And then don't hesitate!

Gary
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Date: 20 Dec 92 06:18:36 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Dec10.192418.7360@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
>No man in his right mind wants to be a "wannabee".  A wannabee is the guy
>that does all the work, while "Romeo" gets all the glory.  The wannabee
>is the guy who is "there for her" like a "real friend" through thick and
>thin while she falls in love with, then breaks up with a succession of
>differrent "Romeos" while she conveniently overlooks _his_ potential
>"Romeo-ness" _and_ his proven reliability as a true friend.  Who is it
>that gets the call when she need some help that "Romeo" either cannot
>or will not provide?  Who is the one whose shoulder she wants to cry
>on whenever she and "Romeo" have a fight?  And when she is SO-less,
>who get to listen as she laments her SO-less-ness.... while _still_
>being overlooked as a "good catch"?  If you said "the wannabee", you
>are correct!  I have been a wannabee one time more than I care to
>think about, and I have no stomach for it!
>Sorry for rambling.....

Keith...do you REALLY think that "wannabee" "real friend"s are only
MALE?  I tutored 4 football players in math...they dated girls who 
couldn't handle the problems in the previous year's course. I 
listened to "I can't get a decent date" from many guys all through
college...and when I suggested *I* was open, well...surprised look,
"Ummm", and that's that.

I finally decided that I like friends, be they male or female. 
Considering my major/job choices (computer science, microsoft) 
I'm 4 to 5 times likely to make a friend from a man as a woman
most of the time (when most of the time is spent at school/work).
But I don't assume I will get romatically involved with friends;
I don't "make friends" as a way to "get dates"; and (most important)
I realized that life happens whether you're romatically involved or
not. 

-jen
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:13:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.025543.8486@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
>
>As an example, men in this group have already said that 1) they would
>prefer to pay for the first date 2) they would prefer to have the woman
>try to pay her share, and would probably consider her a freeloader if
>she didn't, and 3) the asker should pay.
>
>But who was who?  Which one was John Fereira?  Which was Ray Fink?  Did
>I even get their stands on the issue correct?  Who was the 3rd person?
>Did they even exist?  
>
>Teri Miller                    tmiller@cisco.com -or- shannah@netcom.com

 
           No Need to be confused - It's dateing MAN - ooooooHHHHHH
   
Hi I'm goin down to Schmoe's to slap down some sliders, comin? = you pay.
 
Hello. Would you like to go to dinner? = I pay.
 
May I entice you into being flayed alive and having hot oil poured in every
orifice of your body while a room full of people worship Satan = Dutch date.
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
                                 doh#0000000005
================================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi)
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:57:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.015712.1260@mtu.edu> bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes:
>
>-bacon
>I'll get serious when hell freezes over. Til then, who cares?

   I do.   Itsa dirty job, but some body should do it.

   songbird - the last serious person when everyone else is out standin up
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: On Being Tied Down
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:15:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.170855.6352@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> cyan@uhura.cc.rochester.edu () writes:
>>In article <168C57E91.SURGDM@mizzou1.missouri.edi> Diane writes: 
>>No, by then she realizes that it's more fun to tie the man down.
>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>That *is* what you meant, wasn't it?
>>  Diane
>Also, one could say, it's most fun for the man to be tightly tied down by a
>woman! ;-) At least some of us feel that way!

Oooohh, fun-fun-fun.  Like the opening scene in Basic Instinct.  I saw
that.  I'm not busy tonight and I have a looooooong scarf ... call
me at 1-800-IKI-LLYU.
-- 
-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
Nance Colucci                                      att!ihlpl!colucci
"It'll be better than before.  Yesterday's gone.  Yesterday's gone!"
-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Foot Ornementation as Warning Signs.
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:02:41 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <1992Dec30.104905.13015@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>But I have often found it cause to pause
>when the ankle bracelet is made out of:
>	1. tungston steel
>	2. wraught iron

Excuse me, but I was just wondering, am I
the only one who noticed that this is actually
a post from drieux, just drieux that is
understandable???  I am now wondering is
there is something wrong with drieux.  
drieux, are you OK?
--Keith		;-)
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:56:18 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec30.022109.17949@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor) writes:
>In article <16135@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|
|>I've afraid to ask but what exactly does it eat?  Mine can't seem to hold
|>anything down.
|
|Must be all the spice, John.  They don't eat much, but they do need the
|occasional cleaning and lube job.  Alignment is optional.
 
Oh, sounds like I'm due for a servicing.  My tends to pull to the left.  Can
I make an appointment for a maintenance checkup next week?  I'm willing to
leave it overnight if necessary.  I assume that you check all the fluids and
make sure that it is inflated to the proper pressure.  I was thinking about
a new paint job as well but that'll have to wait.  How does fire engine red
with flames down the sides sound?

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:47:35 GMT

	Hmmm. Here's a stupid idea: do American census data
include information on religious denomination within given
regions? If moving is an acceptable choice, perhaps consulting
demographic surveys could be useful in finding a region with
more elible men.

						James Nicoll
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Opening doors (was Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:00:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.065206.4800@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
>>>>Oh yeah, I probably do have no class whatsoever, I don't even open
>>>>car doors for women.  Another useful sorting criterion, I've found ;-)
>>>
>>>You and I should talk.  I'll usually let a guy open the car door, if he
>>>insists, but it really, really, really ANNOYS the hell out of me. 
>I operate on the assumption that if we're both walking to my car, I 
>unlock the passenger door first, then mine.  If my passenger is carrying
>something, I offer to hold it while they get settled and/or hold & close
>the door. 
>
>I also operate on the assumption that if I get to a door first, I hold it
>for my companion(s). 
>
>Both of these behaviours surprise men more often than women. Particularily
>at work (computer software company, most people I know are male).

well, heaven help anyone treat women as an equal!

I dunno. I just never understood the gallantry thing, really. Women
have two hands and two arms, they can damn well open their own doors,
why am I running ahead and them waiting so I can get it?

*sigh*
I wonder sometimes tho if it's not the women perpetuating it as much
as the men.

-bacon
perpetuate traditions? me? HAH!!
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: SF ISO S*M
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:07:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <75983@apple.apple.COM> pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh) writes:
 
|Pooh (who was recently shown a new use for the metal end of a riding crop
|      and a glass of ice water)

ooh.  That makes me go woo-woo-woo-woo and jump right out of my chair just 
thinking about what you might do with that riding crop.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 07:58:24 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <JoeMan.9.724896947@> JoeMan@ (Joe Tooman) writes:
>Actually Blowfish, I am not clueless.  I, like most, had have my share of
>You must be 'clueless' to
>flame a person in soc.singles.  You must really impress those women with your
>keen intellect.

*snicker*
Actually, Joe, I've been flaming people since long before this group was even
named soc.singles. I don't flame people to impress women, I flame people to
show them what ignorant attitudes they have.

>I sure you don't have a problem, you just hand them the money and you have
>your instant date (c) that will not run away at the sight of your worm sized
>mantool (tm).  I have more a life then I doubt you will ever have, I don't
>have time to search for people to flame in my spare time, unlike you.  
>You just haven't looked at the mirror recently.  (I wonder why)

Is it me or was this paragraph compleatly pointless?

>>>In my last relationship, my SO always commented how a guy would
>>>ask for her phone number once a day on average, while I have never been asked
>>>once for my phone number except by some undesirables. 
>>Ahh, the key. Its the womans fault for being undesierable, not his fault for
>>not liking them.
>I admit I am picky, but if I am not pysically attracted to someone, I can't
>enjoy the relationship.

But you claim that you're a 7 out of a 10, but only 'undesierable' women ask
for your phone number? And why can't you enjoy a relationship with a woman
that is not the height of physical perfection? 
Haven't you ever heard of 'intelligence' and 'personality'?
Evidently not.
r.
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 00:04:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.131555.22513@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.073753.27294@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:
>)In article <1992Dec15.163407.5960@netcom.com> desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne) writes:
>
>)>	You're a sanctimonious prig. And don't give me this drivel about
>)>that being an ad hom attack.
>)
>)     No, not at all.  I just have high standards for myself and others
>)which apparently you do not have.
>
>Don't give up so easily!  There's definitely a very slim chance that
>Desiree *might* realize that her entire posting is very little *but* one
>giant ad-hominem attack if you wait for her to calm down a bit.  [I wouldn't
>count on it much, but it's a possibility.]

Nah--Desiree knows perfectly well it's an ad-hominem attack; she's just
enjoying it.  It all has the flavor of one of those playground romances
that starts with the girl demonstrating her affection by throwing rocks
at the object of her interest and he responds by pulling her pigtails--
the way these things work, the two of them will probably be engaged by
summertime.

Trygve   (Who refuses to speculate on just what they might be engaged in.)

--
   "God: a mythical being created by a recent primate species
         because they just couldn't imagine all this stuff lying
         around without an alpha male in charge of it."
              -- Robert Anton Wilson
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.kapitalist.oppression
Subject: Re: Blatant FrienshShipBraceLetMongering
Date: 28 Dec 92 03:58:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Dec28.035853.7706
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec28.020642.18008@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>]
>] I don't know about fads, but my most recent hobby that has actually
>] made me some money at craft shows is those floss friendship bracelets.
>]
>] Anybody wants a sample, send a SASE (Self-addressed stamped envelope)
>] to:
>]
>] AT&T Bell Labs
>] 2000 N. Naperville Road
>] Naperville, Illinois  60566-7033
>]
>] Attn:  Nancy Colucci   5B-430
>]
>] And let me know whether its for ankle or wrist and what colors are
>] preferred.  I'll fill as many requests as I have stock ....
>
>
>I am JUST SHOCKED! that ahyone would SOOOOOOOO Crassly utilize
>the net to engage in this sort of Blatant Capitalist Oppression,
>and that with such a BrazenCulturallyMyopicPerspective as to
>engage in foisting the Symbols of a WhiteMaleSexistGenocidalWarMongerIsm
>as 'friendship bracelets'!!!!!
>
>
>I Can NOT believe that you could be so CRUEL and Heartless!
>
>I am JUST SHOCKED!!!!!
>
>
>Clearly It is time for you to be Re_educated!!!!!
>
>
>ciao
>drieux

Oh, your just jealous that you didn't think of it first....

Besides that, how many did you order?

rip, just rip
-- 
Your conscience never stops you from doing anything.  It just stops
you from enjoying it.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: SWM iso S*F in Colorado
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:34:59 GMT

In article <1hm77fINNsln@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cn573@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ray Henry) writes:
>
>I am a 23 year old Computer Programmer in the San Luis Valley.
>
>I am searching for a very special someone to spend time with
>and share emotions with. You might be this person if you are:
>
 
< I am wonderful, blah blah blah deleted>
 
>-- 
>Ray Henry   cn573@cleveland.freenet.edu
>
>Sometimes with Bill Shankster in piggyback.  :)
 
I'll bet.

 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
                                 doh#0000000005
================================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 08:07:14 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa 

In article <1992Dec23.014701.29073@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:
>All Ron said was you didn't have a clue.  And I think he was right on.
>Just me,
>little 'e'  (not in love with rON, but still annoyed by such childishness)

Damn.
Even though I have cute toes and an unopened container of Kool-Whip? :)
r.
From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Why there might be a need for a (Pre-Sex Contract)
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:05:05 GMT
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Kristen Kohlbecker (tyger@netcom.com) wrote:
: 
: The girl's monthly expenses were found to be in the neighborhood of $9,000 per
: month. Meaning that this girl *spends* what most of us average joes *earn* a
: month. 

Most? MOST???? OK... all you average joes that earn more than 9k/mo PLEASE
raise your hands <groping for unprotected wallets>.... :)

Tim
-- 
Tim Sailer
JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
PO Box 423 Mt Sinai, NY 11766
(516) 331-9001
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:50:20 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <oneil.725163466@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk) writes:
>
>>In article <oneil.724571180@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>>|
>>|I'm sure that there are plenty of females in the same position.  While I
>>|was in college, I had a lot of very nice, very funny female friends who 
>>|could not for the life of them get a date.  They were reasonably attractive
>>|women as far as societal standards go.
>
>>Gee, that's awful.  How many and what kind of men were they asking out?
>
>Hey!  These girls were chasing after guys all over the place....

That *is* bad.  Have them move to Silicon Valley; they won't lack
for male company here.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	"Towards the end, the smell of their air began to change"
From: sharon@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Sharon Curtis)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:34:58 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
Originator: sharon@flint.comlab

In one article, Shelley wrote that she wanted an eligible Jewish man

In another article, Tim wrote (amongst other things):
> Well, call me crazy Shelley, but did you ever consider dating someone
> who, (GASP), wasn't Jewish?

In a further article, Michael wrote:
> Tim, stuff it.  Didn't you read what she wrote?  Her religion forbids it.
> You can call religion an archaic basis for mating, but the majority of
> the world happens not to agree with you.

In a further article, Tim wrote:
>Ohhhhh, stuff it huh!
...
>Second: So if you met a wonderful ethnic woman whom you loved very
>       much, and couldn't live without, you would pass her up on
>       religious grounds?


For goodness, sake, Tim! (and anyone else who thinks that religious
beliefs are irrelevant to relationships)
Try learning a little something.

It is vitally important that for two people in a committed relationship,
their religious beliefs are compatible!!!

Some combinations of beliefs won't have much trouble, like for
example I imagine the following combinations are ok -
Agnostic-Agnostic
Atheist-Atheist
Agnostic-Atheist
Christian(Methodist)-Christian(Baptist)

but for others it can create *terrible* problems in a relationship!
I don't have much experience of things from the Jewish perspective,
but I have some from the Christian perspective.
I know a couple that had compatible beliefs when they married,
but the woman became a Christian so that they had a
Christian-Atheist
combination, which was the precipitating factor in their divorce.
As a Christian, the woman put God first, and her husband second.
The man wanted her to put him first, and God second.
VITAL CLASH OF BELIEFS!
If both are Atheists, then that's fine, cos they don't believe in
God anyway, and if both are Christians, then they both put God first.

There can be problems from religion even if couples have the same
belief. Take the example of two atheists, one of whom is a 
Jew by *race* (note being descended from Abraham and believing
in Judaism are two different things), and the other is a Gentile.
Even though the couple's beliefs are compatible, I understand that
the Jew could come under tremendous pressure from the family
to marry another Jew.

So yes, sure, you can date people of whatever religion you like,
but if you know that relationships with people of certain religions
would not work out for you in the long term, then maybe you had
either better avoid dating these people, or prepare yourself
for heartbreak if you date one and fall in love and come up against
religion problems.

Shelley is actually being pretty sensible!

Someone mentioned "core beliefs". I think that what I've said above
about compatability is relevant to core beliefs in general.

Sharon
Xref: sparky soc.singles:34963 alt.romance:15546 alt.romance.chat:22496 soc.penpals:4936