HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: America On Line, using a IIGS
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 08:16:59 GMT

In article <m0mdG1z-0000DeC@crash.cts.com> sbennett@gnh-starport.cts.com (Stephen Bennett) writes:
>
>dig@pro-cynosure.cts.com (Doug Granzow) says:
>
>> My recommendation would be to request a refund from America Online and then
>> subscribe to an online service that doesn't require a non-standard terminal
>> program.  America Online uses poor software, and is clumsy to use.  (They
>> seem to have pretty good Apple II support, though, if you can put up with
>> the terminal software.)

	The AOL software takes some getting used to... I didn't
realize how much easier the software was to use, until I tried some
other online services.

	The software isn't that bad... sure it has some annoying
quirks, and it would be nicer if it were a desktop based program, but
it's a nice change from the CLI...

><shrug>  This seems kind of harsh...  it's true that the AO software is
>somewhat of a pain to get set up in the first place, and it's sometimes a bit
>difficult to get used to new software (especially after getting used to
>a comm program as outstanding as ProTERM!), but it seems silly to just throw
>up one's hands and go on to other more expensive alternatives like CompuServe
>or GEnie instead of just taking the bit of time to get the AO software
>initially set up...  I agree that it'd be nice if the AO software was a bit
>more forgiving of settings, but it seems to me that the advantages of AO are
>worth putting up with a bit of initial difficulty...

	Yeah, the AOL software is a bit weird, because it requires the
modem port be set up a certain way (non-defaults).  However, as I
recall, it was pretty clearly explained in the manual... the thing
that gets me is when I lose my Control Panel settings... :(

>/__Stephen_Bennett,_Co-Sysop_StarPort_BBS_(Va.)_703/931-0947__14.4K_bps______\

Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
From: calvinc@hawking.berkeley.edu (Calvin Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Anonymous FTP for Apple II
Date: 15 Oct 1992 04:20:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hawking.berkeley.edu

Pardon me, but I have just inherited an Apple IIc Plus and
would like to find out about the best anonymous-FTP sites
for 8-bit Apple II software.  In particular, I would like
recommendations on a freeware/shareware C compiler and
assembler.

At the same time, I would also like the find out where and
how I can get hold of a mouse and memory expansion card for
the IIc Plus.  I have a spare Apple /// 5.25" floppy drive,
can I plug it to the IIc with an adapter?  I also tried
plugging an old Mac 800K floppy (the beige kind), and it
sounded like the drive was going to chew up the floppy
(the Mac drive worked fine once reconnected to the Mac).
Is that some trivial modification to make it work (minus the
eject button)?

Calvin Cheng
calvinc@mascot.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Accelerators (was: Re: Resurrection!!!!!)
From: robert-s@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Robert Sheehan )
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:28:21 GMT
 <1992Oct8.055612.9881@zip.eecs.umich.edu> <1992Oct12.054913.22101@cs.uow.edu.au> <1992Oct12.112633.25076@actrix.gen.nz>
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <1992Oct12.112633.25076@actrix.gen.nz> David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>On a IIgs, an 8 MHz ZIP makes the computer run about twice as fast, on
>average.  I would expect an 8 MHz ZIP in a IIe to run about three to
>five times faster than a stock IIe (for all operations except disk I/O).

Yes.  I consistently get a better than 5 times speed up with the ZipChip.

>The ZIP chips know about all of the soft switches that control memory
>bank switching, and behave appropriately.  I don't know if they can
>deal with auxiliary slot memory cards (RAMWorks, etc.), but I would
>hope so.

Yes.  Up to 2 megabytes (I think) of aux slot memory can be cached.
Anything over this can still be accessed but it is not cached.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik)
Subject: tech questions
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 10:06:09 GMT

Problems...
 
...QuickDraw specialists please help!
 
A friend wants to draw a "ruler" in a window that doesn't scroll with
the remaining part of the content region. (As described in tech note
80.)
 
This note explains that you have to adjust the PortRect in order to
protect the ruler. To redraw the ruler, just restore the original
PortRect, SetOrigin (0,0), draw the ruler, modify the PortRect again,
and finally SetOrigin (0,0) again. Now the problem: isn't it forbidden
to use SetOrigin within a Content Draw DefProc?
 
Thanks for any info. I suggested that he should use the info bar (and
he probably did it in the meantime), but he's just curious...
 
henrik
 
PS: Thanks for the many letters regarding my own tech questions. It
seems..
 
- that you can't draw fine lines
- journaling is broken (NICE JOKE...)
- font scaling in pictures can't be disabled...
- NEVER use prefix /1 (thanks Jay and others)
- there's an army of friendly and helpful people on c.s.a2!!!
 

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From: shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ShrinkIt GS 1.1 (cont.)
Date: 13 Oct 92 09:39:54 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1bcjjdINN2a2@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:

>The question is, why didn't Andy stick it in a BinaryII header so we wouldn't
>have to change the filetype/auxtype?

Because BinSCII is supposed to preserve the filetype, eof, and other attributes
of a file and I thought it would be one less step to have to go through (ie,
unbinscii, unbinary2, unshrink).  What I hadn't counted on was the eof of the
file being munged in some cases.  I was wrong and should have put it in a b2
wrapper.

>Isn't that the whole point of having BII?

Yep.

andy

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters)
Subject: GS16FORTH and Warren Stone
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:32:46 GMT

Would the kind person that forwarded my mail about Warren Stone to
him some months ago please respond with his present e-mail
address. The one he gave me worked for some time, however, when I
send mail I get:

>Your message was not delivered to
>        WCS@bnr.ca for the following reason:
>        Bad Address
>        Unknown local user 'WCS' (Unknown alias type ''
>        '/S=WCS/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/')
>

Thanks in advance
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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca/C Linker Problems?!?!
Date: 11 Oct 92 11:17:26 GMT

Whew!  I didn't miss anything! :)

- Eric S.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: ShrinkIt GS 1.1 (cont.)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:40:56 GMT

In article <92286.132404JKG2@psuvm.psu.edu> Dr. John King Gamble Jr. <JKG2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Mine unpacked fine with BINSCII, and GSHK1.1 decompressed itself fine too...

I extracted with sciibin, downloaded, changed the filetype to S16,
and it extraced without a problem.


Rich

payner@netcom.com
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Rom Upgrade?
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:07:47 GMT

You can't upgrade to ROM 03.  It has a whole new motherboard; the ROM 01
upgrade is just a chip or two to be swapped out.  Unless you want to _buy_
a ROM 3 motherboard and put it in yourself...

All the programs you mentioned will work just fine on the ROM 01 IIGS.
Any software that does _not_ is astoundingly old and you should have
already upgraded to a ROM 01 compatible version anyway. :)

- Eric S.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cchang@pdsf.ssc.gov (Charles Chang)
Subject: WANTED - Apple High Speed SCSI and //e RAM card
Reply-To: cchang@quasar.ssc.gov
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory, Dallas, Texas
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:20:42 GMT

If you have one that you don't use or you want to upgrade, send me
an e-mail!!

Preferrably the RAM card does not need to use //e's aux. slot, because
I want my extended 80 col./RGB card stays in there.

Ramfast SCSI (Rev does not matter) is also acceptable.  The only
reason I want Apple HSS is because it's cheaper.  The card needs
to have manual and formatting utilities, as I am using it with
an ST296N pulled from my PC.

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Best Wordprocessors???
From: <DBEHRENS@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 15:08:53 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

I would like to know what are the best wordprocessors on the market
today for the apple IIgs.  I currently have a rom 00 gs, and I wonder if it is
worth it to upgrade.  Hey, I'm a college student with a VERY limited
budget, but is there anything better than Appleworks 3.0 with Time-Out
Ultra Macros?
 
Thanks,
 
Dennis J. Behrens
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ddkilzer@iastate.edu (David D Kilzer)
Subject: Re: Looking for some VERY OLD Apple software!
Keywords: DOS 3.2
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:42:29 GMT

In article <1b4o1oINNcjn@hamal.usc.edu> mead@hamal.usc.edu (Dick Mead) writes:
>fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:
>>jeffb@world.std.com (Jeffrey T Berntsen) writes:
>>>I'm looking for copies of what Apple used to call their "Contributed
>>>Programs" volumes 1 to 5.  These are five diskette, in DOS 3.2 format
>>>that Apple dealers used to give copies of many years ago.
>
>>I have a couple of these.  The rest seem to be missing in action.
>
>>>If anyone knows of a current source for these, or better yet, would be
>>>willing to send me copies (preferably by email), I would be very thankful!
>
>>Since they were PD the disks can be shrunk and stuck on an archive.  Might
>>be nice to see them on tybalt.
>
>I believe I still have the full set (don't hold me to it). If so, I'll
>archive them with shrinkit and put them where ever you point me. Be
>specific.
>
>Dick

If the disks are in true DOS 3.2 format, won't they have to be converted
to DOS 3.3 format using (reaching far back into memory here) MUFFIN(?) from
the DOS 3.3 Utilities disk first?

Since DOS 3.2 was 13 sectors/track, and DOS 3.3 was 16 sectors/track,
won't shrinkit have problems reading sectors 14-16 of the DOS 3.2 disk
when you go to archive them?

Just curious.

Dave
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From: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Flobynoid Woes
Date: 15 Oct 1992 23:56:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, lchavas@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU (Linda Catherine Havas) says:

>Anyone out there have Flobynoid (Arkanoid clone) from Big Red?
>My joystick, which is in perfect shape, doesn't seem to work
>with this game. If I have to use the keyboard, fine, but which
>keys do I use? Any help would be most appreciated.
>
>Linda Havas   ------------->  lchavas@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
>

IfI remeber correcdtly... you have to have it set for mouse for a joystick
to work on it... but don't quote me =-D...

haven't touched a game on a 5.25 in a long time!
From: PKBRANDON@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Gerald Lester, older P8
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:08:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

The best way to use a P8 program which _requires_ an older version of
Prodos is to set up a disk with the older P8 (renamed Prodos to boot)
and boot from.  Most programs should work with the current version of
P8 (v2.0.1); just copy them to your boot volume.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan)
Subject: Re: RESULT: comp.sys.apple2.gno passes 207:30
Organization: Ord High School, Ord, NE
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:51:59 GMT

kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:
>@ (Jawaid) writes:
>>kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:

>>>Okay, so where should posts to this newsgroup be sent?
>>>comp.sys.apple2.gno@apple.com? Or someplace else.

>>  No, if you're reading comp.sys.apple2 you're more than likely going to
>>get comp.sys.apple2.gno as well.  The USENET guidelines specify a 5 day
>>wait to allow serious complaints to surface.  None have yet (as far as I
>>know), so we're on schedule.  csa2.gno will probably appear Monday or
>>Tuesday.

>Sigh. I see we're not on the same page. I'm not reading this from USENET. I'm
>not on INET either. This newsgroup is echoed to me through the ProLine
>interface to INET. When I post a message to comp.sys.apple2 I send it to
>apple.com. What I'm asking, which you did not answer is where I should be
>routing the posts for comp.sys.apple2.gno?

You could try "comp-sys-apple2-gno@ucbvax.berkeley.edu".  Indeed, you
could try "any-group@ucbvax.berkeley.edu" where hyphens ("-") replace
periods (".") in the group's name.

>                    -=> Message from Kim Brennan <=-
>                      (kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com)

gnh- is ProLine?  I thought pro- was ProLine.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ftit@yahara.engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman)
Subject: Disk ][ question
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 03:16:58 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ftit@yahara.engin.umich.edu


I am in the process of resurrecting an Apple ][+ in order to hack 6502
assembler on it and generally relive the Good Old Days.  When I got the
thing it was just a CPU and memory card, as the previous owner had taken
all the rest of the cards and peripherals out to use in his //e.  

Over the last few months I have been busy aquiring components for the
beastie, and I actually expect to obtain some system software for it in
the near future so I can run stuff.  I have had a doubt or so about the
disk drive, however, and would like to ask the readers of this newsgroup
for their advice and opinions.

I found an old (ooooold) DOS 3.* disk from high school last evening and
popped it into the drive -- sort of a smoke test, you see, before put-
ting potentially irreplacable diskettes in it.  The drive started up
with the usual grinding noises, only now the noises changed in frequency
and loudness.  I assume that means it was seeking.  Then the motor stop-
ped and the in-use LED stayed on.  I reset.  I thought that perhaps
the side of the disk that I stuck in had something bad in the sectors in
which the controller expected bootstrap code and caused the strange
behavior.  I flipped the disk over and said, "PR #6".  The computer came
back with an out-of-memory error.  The motor does not seem to be dead;
it worked fine empty, but I didn't want to repeat the experiment again
and try the drive loaded.

I believe that the LED is controlled by its own line from the
controller, so the problem could have been in software.  Question is,
is the problem bad code on the disk, or is it somrthing with the drive?
I think that I can rule out the CPU since it seems to work OK with the
monitor and responded correctly to some BASIC peeks and pokes that I
tried, and with the controller since the guy who sent it to me assured
me that it had tested alright, and his correspndence didn't strike me as
that of a petty-larsonist.

This leaves the drive and the disk.  The disk is old and may well be bad
and the drive was sold to me without any guarantees -- no idea if it
works, but if I want it, I can give it a shot.  Can you think of a test
I can try to see what the problem is (or is this the way this thing
should boot?)

I apologize for the rather extensive rambling; I have very little
experience with this system, and what may be a macro to you ("the Red
Light Problem?  sure, just pick it up and drop it from a couple inches
up.  That should reseat the chips.") is all new and strange to me.

Thanks in advance for any hints.

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From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: FAX software for the GS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:43:26 GMT


I just got a reply from Quality Computers (tech@pro-quality.cts.com)
regarding FAX software for the GS.  They will be releasing the software,
and it will work with ALL Supra Fax modem, and other class 1 fax modems.

However, they are using outside contractors, but it's getting close to
being completed.

Sounds like great news to me.


Jimmy

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From: gregt+@CMU.EDU (Gregory Ross Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: SuperZip CDA?
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:59:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4erB2Pm00WAJ9VbMU0
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


  A while ago (mid to late September, maybe) someone posted SuperZip
CDA to c.b.a2.  I figured it was this amazing FTA zip CDA that I'd
heard about on AOL.  Well, I seem to remember that it either bombed my
system, or just did nothing when I tried to install it way back then.
Anyone have any success with it?


		-Greg
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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Accelerators (was: Re: Resurrection!!!!!)
Date: 14 Oct 1992 12:45:17 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>In a IIc?  Sorry - you're out of luck.  If the No Slot Clock is under
>the motherboard ROM, the ZIP/NSC combination will cause the NSC to
>stop working (at best) or the computer to crash continuously (at worst).

Not necessarily... how accessible is the driver code for NSC ? We might be able
to patch it to temporarily turn off the Zip while it's accessing the clock.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: P8 FORMATTING
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:58:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: slate.1992Oct13.195826.28519
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:
: Hmmm... there's a program called "HyperFormatter" (I think that's the name
: -- it's definitely "Hyper" something, which includes the source code.  It
: formats 5.25" disks for ProDOS 8.  You might try looking for that.  Can't
: recall the name of the author, though.

     It is called HyperFormat.  There is also, if you are on GEnie a
program called HyperFormatII.  The author's name is Jerry Hewett.  It works
great.  It is faster then Apples.(I am not putting down Apples format but
you do have to license it.)  I seem to have seen it somewhere on the net.  
If you cannot find it then drop me a line.  I can get you a version of it.
(It is used in Disk Witch.  Noone has said they have had any problem with
it yet.)

Gary
 
: - Eric S.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ddkilzer@iastate.edu (David D Kilzer)
Subject: Re: Help!! unfragment utility?
Followup-To: DBEHRENS@MIAMIU.BITNET
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:22:34 GMT

In article <DBEHRENS@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
>Once again I'm back with another question.
>this time I'm wondering if there is a utility that would unfragment
>files.  I'm thinking of something in the terms of the IBM's
>copy *.* DOS command.
>If anyone out there knows please e-mail me.
> 
>Thanks,
>Dennis J. Behrens
>DBehrens@MiamiU.Bitnet

Yes.  Prosel 8 has a utility called Beach Comber which will defragment a
disk (whether 5.25", 3.5", or a hard disk).  There are three different
versions of the program (1 for computers without extended memory, 1 for
computers with a large RAM disk, and 1 for GS users).  Each version has
its own limit for the largest type of drive it will defragment.  You
must buy Prosel 8 as a package (it has MANY other useful programs
included).

Also available is Prosel 16 for GS users only.  I believe Beach Comber
is included on it (although I'm not positive).

Hope this helps.

Dave
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From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: EXPO EAST-SPELLBINDER
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:12:04 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Oct14.175924.2481@ee.gatech.edu> dfarber@serpente.eecom.gatech.edu (FARBER) writes:
>
>  Well, there is a game called SpellBinder, written a _LONG_ time ago for
>the IIGS. It is a text adventure game (no graphics) that uses the desktop.
>  I really liked the game, although it is not very hard or long. (There is
>this one GREAT maze in the game. I've still got the map to it!)
>  I don't know where you could find it now. I haven't hooked my GS up
>since I returned to school, so I can't offer to send you a copy (right
>now). Maybe someone else on the net mighthave it and could send it to you.
>
>----Dave
>
>-- 


It is availible on apple2.archive.umch.edu via anonymous FTP.  I have it on my
system.  It very easy to cheat on though...