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From: leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (mark.r.leeper)
Subject: A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:46:02 GMT

                          A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT
                      A film review by Mark R. Leeper

          Capsule review:  Norman Maclean's autobiographical
     novella is brought to the screen by the sure hand of director
     Robert Redford.  I found the characters hard to care much
     about and the scenery of more interest.  Others' mileage may
     vary.  Rating: 0 (-4 to +4).

     As an actor Robert Redford is just not my cup of tea.  He generally
plays someone handsome and callow and perhaps less than a deep thinker.
When a film calls for someone to be handsome and callow and less than a
great thinker, he can be good in a role.  I certainly cannot fault him for
his contributions to films such as THE CANDIDATE and THE NATURAL.  But
Robert Redford the director is another animal entirely.  His ORDINARY PEOPLE
was neither ordinary nor empty, but a quiet and powerful study of a family
that was no longer functioning as a family.  THE MILAGRO BEANFIELD WAR was
another film of keenly observed personalities.  But this time he had a
whimsical feel and a spell of magical realism.  In his third film the
craftsmanship is greater than ever but the people are much more reserved and
the film lacks impact.  It is hard to feel much for a family that believes
so strongly that the best thing in life is fly fishing.

     In Missoula, Montana, of the 1920s the Reverend Maclean is a dry, stern
Presbyterian minister of Scottish descent.  He leaves it to be assumed that
behind his formal crustiness he may even have strong feelings for his
children.  He expresses emotion for only dry fly fishing and believes there
is no clean line between religion and fly fishing.  His two sons grow up
loving each other and in subtle competition.  The older, Norman (played by
Joseph Gordon-Levitt and later Craig Sheffer), is bookish and tentative,
while the younger, Paul (played by Van Gravage and later Brad Pitt). is
handsome, self-assured, and adventuresome.  As they grow older, Norman is
reserved and religious, while Paul is more inclined to walking on the wild
side.  Most of the story is set in one summer when Norman returns to Montana
after graduating college.  The story is generally episodic, relating the
relationship of the boys over that summer.

     Redford's direction and Philippe Rousselot's camera capture the beauty
of Montana but then fails to make the people upstage the scenery.  At least
this is the all-too-familiar story of the righteous son and the son tempted
by women and strong drink.  The message is too much like what is real and
good and true in life is getting out into nature and killing fish.  When it
was all over, the characters I was rooting for all had gills.  In spite of
the polish, I give this film only a 0 on the -4 to +4 scale, but that may be
only that I did not connect with the characters.

					Mark R. Leeper
					att!mtgzy!leeper
					leeper@mtgzy.att.com
					Copyright 1992 Mark R. Leeper
From: kristinw@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: film mistakesREGISTER
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:46:52 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov8.085643.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> I took a course titled "Modes Of Film" back in the 70's.  The instructor
> told us of a film that was supposed to take place in the Arabian desert a
> few centurys ago.  Some of the actors wore wristwatchs and there were power
> poles/lines in the background of some of the scenes!  I don't have my notes
> for the class and the teacher has died.  Is anyone familiar with this film?
> 
> -- 
> David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 



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From: haf@dexnet.lonestar.org (Harold Fite)
Subject: Mary Stuart Masterson
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I have a friend that is interested Mary Stuart Masterson but is able
to find out very little about her.  Does anyone know much about this
actress?  I have seen a list of films from something called "The
Actress List".  Besides that this actress seems to have no history.

Harold Fite

haf@dexnet.lonestar.org  (Harold Fite)
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Dinner with Andre
Keywords: MY DINNER WITH ANDRE
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 23:08:36 GMT

In article <khoo.721030847@ee.ualberta.ca> khoo@ee.ualberta.ca (Tony Khoo) writes:
>
>	I was sitting on my <en francais> 'toi let' pondering
>	life's questions when I recalled a memorable movie
>	called "My Dinner with Andre" starring Shawn Wallace.
>
>	What is it about you may ask?  We'll precisely as the
>	title suggests....a 3hr movie where Mr. Wallace is having
>	dinner with a guy named ANDRE.
>
>	What do they talk about? Everything and anything besides
>	pulse modulation systems and graphical convolution plots.
>
>	Is it a good movie?  Hell NO.  If I wanted to listen to
>	two guys talk 'bout nothing for 3hrs I would watch TV 
>	during my dinner.
>
>	What do you think?

Well, I think the film is actually less than 2 hours long, that the
leading actor was Wallace Shawn, not Shawn Wallace, that the guy named
Andre was Andre Gregory (a fairly well known figure in theater, less
so in film), and that it was an interesting and unusual film.  It is
a film about two people talking, no denying that, so one's enjoyment
of the film is likely to rest on how interested you are in what they're
talking about.  The film, directed by Louis Malle, actually has considerably
more technique to it than one might think, but the basis of the film is
what the men say to each other.  At any rate, it's definitely not a film
everyone will like, and I'm not much surprised that some people dislike
it rather strongly.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: 00bjhoyt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: STAR WARS
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:30:32 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Nov4.211537.1740@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, z_sammonpr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
> I'm new to this system and want to know if anyone has any...
>             I mean any information on a new Star Wars movie?
> 
> If they have started on one, does anyone know where it's to be located at or
> what's it to be about?
> 
> peter

Right now Lucas is working on a new Star Wars Movie. It it episode I. Don't
know the title of the movie.  Lucas has said that the movie is to be about
the adventures of Obiwan Kenobi and Anikan(sp) Skywalker when they were very
young.  The movie is to be released sometime between 1995-1998...

Brad
From: nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Creative "Bleeping"
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:33:58 GMT
Organization: Wheaton College, IL


	Has anyone seen the TV version of "The Jerk"? Here's one thing they
change:

	A bunch of real estate slimeballs tell Steve Martin that if he invests
in their land, they'll "keep out the eggplants". The Jerk replies, "What do
you mean?" and they say "You know, the niggers." Then Martin says, "Sir... you
are SPEAKING to a nigger!" and proceeds to beat them all up. 
	On the TV version, they just cut out the word "nigger" everywhere it
appeared and replaced it with...nothing. So they say things like "You know,
the......." and "Sir, you are speaking to a......." which makes no sense at
all.

							Nathan Hill
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:01:59 -0500 
From: Anne Witchner <aw0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Zentropa
Distribution: usa

I saw Zentropa, enjoyed it and recommend it.  I would appreciate
comments, impressions concerning the story, characters, etc.
From: milst1@cislabs.pitt.edu (Martin I Lewison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Coppolla and Scorcese
Date: 8 Nov 92 07:35:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Hi.  I'm wondering if you could fill in my blanks on my filmographies of
Francis and Martin.  Here's what I come up with:

Coppolla
--------
The Conversation
Godfather I,II,& III
Peggy Sue Got Married
Apocalypse Now
Tucker: The Man and His Dream
Life Without Zoe (in New York Stories)
Rumblefish
Dracula
--------
Scorcese
--------
Mean Streets
Taxi Driver
After Hours
The Last Temptation of Christ
Cape Fear
The Last Waltz
(The first section of New York Stories - I forget the title)
Goodfellas
--------
I know there's more by both of these great directors.  Could you help me
out?  Email to me and I'll post the results.  Thanks.

-Martin
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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Gene Kelly Question ...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 22:28:27 GMT


Does anyone know of any movies with Gene Kelly that are _not_ musicals, aside
from Inherit the Wind?

Firestar
 
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From: darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Any info on Return of the Living Dead part 3?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 10:34:05 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.natinst.com

I seem to remember reading an article about the making of
Return of the Living Dead part 3.  Does anyone know anything 
about this? 
I hope it is better then part 2.  The first was a classic.
It was scary and funny but the funny parts didnt make it stupid
like part 2 did.  In part 1 the characters acted like they were
scared which added more realism to the movie( of course after
you accept the fact that the dead are living again).
Part 2 did stupid things like the girlfriend saying something like
okay you can eat my brains.  I also didnt like how they had
the same two actors which died in part 1.
Another thing they did was at the end when all the creatures
were being shocked they had one that was dressed like Michael
Jackson jump in front of the camera.  Sure, the audience laughed 
but I just thought to myself, "This sucks". This is supposed to
be a scary movie but I found it more humorous than scary.
That was just like putting Richard Pryor in Superman 3.  Superman
isnt supposed to be a comedy.

Darren

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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: Movie Production
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:27:05 GMT

In article <w4=qsag@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>I'd be willing to run an RFD/CFV for a rec.arts.moviemaking (or whatever
>the groupname turns out to be) but only on the condition that it be open
>to people shooting motion pictures in *any* medium -- including video.

>--
>Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Who said that would be a problem? How about naming it 
rec.arts.movies.production, which would cover the whole gamut of film and 
video production?

As the slogan says: Just do it.


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
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-- the world." -Cliff Steele   --  "You talkin' to me?"
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From: bac2a@Virginia.EDU ("Bryan Alexis Conner")
Subject: Re: Trivia
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:10:27 GMT

ircolman@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca  writes:
> 
> I am hoping somebody could help identify the following movie quotes:
> 
> 
> 1) "Women, a mistake? Or did He do it to us on purpose?"
> 
> 2) "We came, we saw, we kicked its ass!"
> 
> 3) "I hope they weren't triplets."
> 
> 
> Please send any responses to ircolman@descartes.uwaterloo.ca.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Ian Colman
> 
\i dont kmow the answer to the first quote, and although the
second one could be in a number of movies I remeber it best in
when Bill Murray said it in GHOSTBUSTERS.

As for the third quote, it was George Segal who said it, I
think in Marked for Death. It was the one where he has to kill
a ferocious drug cartel leader, only to find that after he
kills him, the guy has a twin brother who is just as evil and
must also be killed.

.
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From: destill@mtu.edu (Still)
Subject: Jobs in film/special fx
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:11:26 GMT

	Can anyone tell me what sort of jobs are available in film special
effects, technical theatre and the like?  Specifically, what kind of
training is required/recommended and who employs these people?  I'm
looking to get into Star Wars or Henson type effects (puppetry and such).
Please send me e-mail or post here.  Any help you could give me would be
*GREATLY* appreciated.
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From: mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie)
Subject: Re: Christmas Movies
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:36:51 GMT

Who would I like to see play Scrooge?
Denholm Elliot (who just died last month--he played the sly
butler in Trading Places) or Richard Pryor (imagine Pryor
in Scrooged instead of Bill Murray!) or Jonathan Pryce.
--Michael
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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:53:54 GMT

Planet of the Apes
Beneath the Planet of the Apes
Escape from the Planet of the Apes
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes
Battle for the Planet of the Apes

Those are all the Planet of the Apes movies that were made. There was a
short-lived television show which was really cheesy, and a cartoon series that
was even worse. I think (important qualifier) that there was a made-for-TV movie
that was a tie-in to the TV series.

As long as someone else brought this up, I would like to rave about the quality
of the first movie. IMHO, it is one of the top ten movies of all time. Now I know
you're probably thinking "Planet of the Apes, a great movie -- NOT!" But watch it
again!

The movie is a social commentary-satire, much in the vein of Huckleberry Finn or
Gulliver's Travels. Rod Serling's script is a work of pure genius. Much of the
human-vs.-apes storyline was a commentary on the black-vs.-whites civil rights
issues of the 1960's (in the U.S., of course). But Serling also pulls in themes
such as the dogmatism of both religion and science when they are confronted with
something (i.e. Charlton Heston's character) that doesn't fit into their scheme
of things. This is most apparent in the trial scene. Please note that on the
surface it may only appear that the scene is an indictment of closed-minded
religion (because the apes Cornelius and Zira were trying to introduce a theory
of evolution), but Serling's handling of the scene IMO also uses the theme as an
indictment of science which refuses to accept evidence contrary to whatever the
popular theory of the day is.

Remember also that when this movie came out in 1968, nobody was expecting the
surprise ending (on the beach). People who were adults at that time told me that
last shot was really a shocker to most everyone, considering the fears they lived
with (i.e. cold war, nuclear threat, Vietnam, anti-war riots, etc.) in the late
`60's.

Besides being a really cool adventure/sci-fi flick, this movie also uses
satirical comedy in a sure-handed way rarely seen in American films. Check this
movie out again; it's well worth the effort.

Anthony
From: ultraman@mcl.ucsb.edu (Ramie Tateishi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: "Kiss of the Spider Woman" question
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:32:15 GMT


  Can anyone tell me what the movies were that Molina described in Manuel
  Puig's _Kiss of the Spider Woman?_  I know the first one was "Cat People,"
  and "The Enchanted Cottage" was another, but can anyone identify all of
  them?  The Nazi propaganda film supposedly called "Her Real Glory" was a
  fake, so I understand, invented by Puig.  Please mail me directly, as I
  seldom have time to go through the newsgroups anymore. Thanks!

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: lsmith@pico.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: New Branagh Film?
Keywords: Branagh
Organization: The Little Shakespearean Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:02:53 GMT

In article <mswens69.721580585@ursa> mswens69@ursa.calvin.edu (Mark Swenson) writes:
>I have heard that Kenneth Branagh (director of 1988s Henry V and Dead Again) 
>is working on a new film that is based on another Shakespearean play.  Has
>anyone heard of this?  If you have, I would like to know what play it is 
>based on and when it will be coming out?  Also, if it isn't asking too much
>I would like to know if Derek Jacobi or other actors/actresses from previous
>films will be in it.  Thank you.

I stumbled across a segment on Entertainment the Week (I never watch it, 
really) about Branagh's latest project. He's directing Much Ado about 
Nothing. The cast includes Branagh, Emma Thompson, Denzel Washington and
Keanu Reeves (sp?). The segment also had a shot of a large man who looked
a great deal like Brian Blessed. (Seems likely as Branagh and Blessed are
friends.)

They were shooting in Tuscany, I think. The cotumes looked somewhat Victorian.

Despite previous rumors, there was no mention of Michael Keaton appearing
in the movie.

Peter's Friends comes out in Decemeber, so I'd guess a fall release
for MAaN.
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    Reynard and Tybert's   |  matter. Put him up against the wall with the
        Biggest Fan        |  rest."                _Mr Peanut in Chicago_
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From: aroe@jarthur.claremont.edu (Lumiere)
Subject: Re: Diane Keaton/Diana Rigg fan seeks addresses - help!
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:36:31 GMT

In article <Bx95Hs.xw@cs.dal.ca> graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:

>Does anyone have reliable (current) addresses for these two. I just HAVE
>to have their autographs...I've been putting it off forever.

Isn't Diana Rigg dead?

--> Just another Avengers fan
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From: kthiruma@engws3.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: The Brothers Marx
Originator: kthiruma@engws3.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:14:00 GMT

Hello There :

I would like to know if there is a news group for the
fans of the MARX BROTHERS .I think that they are/were
very funny.Their oneliners still keep me in splits
whenever I see their movies.I was wondering if you could
get hold of the scripts of Duck Soup somewhere.

Please Reply to

Balaji.T.K.

kthiruma@ic.sunysb.edu

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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Gene Kelly non-musicals
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:03:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.185021.24243@psych.toronto.edu> dsy@psych.toronto.edu (Desiree Sy) writes:
>In article <1dhuf1INNnt0@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel) writes:
>>	INHERIT THE WIND  (1960)
>
>as a slick, free-verse speaking reporter (I loved his performance
>in this).

His character was based on H.L. Mencken, the Sage of Baltimore, who covered
the Scopes Trial for _The Baltimore Sun_.  I highly recommend looking through
newspaper microfilms for July 1925 to read Mencken's dispatches.  They were
printed on the front page.

-- Herb Huston
From: pattisan@midiline.la.ca.us (Patti Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: MOVIE SCRIPTS WANTED!!!!
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 20:03:15 PST
Distribution: ol
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

labaks@emory.edu (Abraham Song) writes:

> I'm interested in receiving movie scripts!!!!
> 
> All types are accepted just e-mail me your list (NOT THE ACTUAL
> SCRIPTS!!!!!) and I'll e-mail you back requesting certain scripts
> that you may have.  I would really appreciate this!!!!!
> 
> My e-mail address is labaks@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu
> 
> Thanks,
> Abraham K. Song, the Doctor
> 
 I have a few ...whatcha want?




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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Prospero's Books
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:40:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.221607.7836@news.arc.nasa.gov> watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC) writes:
>Hypothetical Question: 
>If they ever try to put Prospero's Books on network TV, how will they edit it?
>
>Would they  A) cut out every all scenes where there is nudity, 
>               so it lasts only 5 minutes (plus enough commercials 
>               to fill out 30 min.)
>            B) add computer graphic cloths on  everyone (unless 
>               Greenaway did a second version where they all wear 
>               underwear ala "Animal House", which I've never heard of)
>            C) cover all the naughty parts with blue spots
>
> or         D) Show it uncut  
>John S. Watson, Civil Servent from Hell          ARPA: watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov

E) Make everything very dim, like they turned out the lights.  (It'll
just be like looking at the Sistine Chapel before they cleaned it!
Actually, Option B is closer to what they did to Michelangelo's _The
Last Judgement_)



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Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speak
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