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From: shyam@davidsys.com
Newsgroups: ca.forsale
Subject: 1987 Mazda Rx-7 Turbo.
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:01:04 PST
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

Subject: 87 MAZDA RX-7 Turbo
Summary: Perfect Condition, 39k miles


                      Mazda RX-7 Turbo '87 
                      --------------------
              (Motor Trend Import Car of the Year)

          - Dark Metallic Red (Royal Maroon)
          - Turbo-charged Rotary Engine, 180+ horsepower
            0-60 in ~6.5 seconds
          - Burgundy Velour Interior
          - Only 39K miles!  
          - 5-speed
          - Power Sun Roof
          - Cruise Control
          - Variable Power Steering (automatically varies with speed
            for maximum feel of the road)
          - New Tires (less than 3000 miles)
          - Alloy Wheels
          - Air Conditioning
          - AM/FM Cassette Stereo, four speaker system
            with 9 band graphic equalizer
          - Power Windows
          - Power Mirrors
          - Automatic Power Antenna
          - Front windshield wiper has 2 fixed speeds and variable
            duration intermittent
          - Rear wiper/washer with fixed speed and intermittent
          - Tilt Steering Wheel
          - Racarro(sp?)-style Seats (2)
          - Two Door Hatchback
          - Perfect Condition, inside and out
          - $10,750 (way below blue book)
          - Phone any time (408) 541-7473 or e-mail shyam@davidsys.com

        This car is in perfect condition, oil changes every 2000 miles, 
        tune up every 6000 miles.
        All service records available.
        I also have a transferable 3 year 30,000 mile service warranty; which 
        is good almost upto 70,000 miles (it was purchased recently).
        There is absolutely nothing wrong with the car.  
        The exterior is equally great, it looks simply beautiful and flawless.
        Frankly, I wish I din't have to sell this baby.

        If you want to buy this car or if you simply want to talk about it, 
        Call me anytime at (408) 541-7473

        - shyam.        (shyam@davidsys.com)
Newsgroups: ca.forsale
From: Yonatan Yoshpe <yoshpe@andr.ub.com>
Subject: MacIIFX $2400, 0/0 Like New
X-Xxdate: Mon, 21 Dec 92 18:37:13 GMT
Organization: Ungermann-Bass, Inc
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:07:37 GMT

This IIFX is like new.  If you need memory add $29 per Meg, and there is
120MB disc available for an additional $200 or 40Meg for an additional
$100.
yoshpe@andr.ub.com or 617-9656883

Yonatan Yoshpe
Newsgroups: ca.forsale
From: Yonatan Yoshpe <yoshpe@andr.ub.com>
Subject: MacIIFX, 0/0, $2350
X-Xxdate: Mon, 28 Dec 92 12:28:17 GMT
Organization: Ungermann-Bass, Inc
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:58:05 GMT

This IIFX is like new.  If you need memory add $29 per Meg, and there is
120MB disc available for an additional $200 or 40Meg for an additional
$100.
yoshpe@andr.ub.com or 617-9656883

Yonatan Yoshpe
From: ewebber@access.digex.com (Eric Sean Webber)
Newsgroups: ca.forsale
Subject: SUPERBOWL 91 REDSKINS
Date: 3 Jan 1993 14:35:50 GMT
Organization: DIVERSIFIED ETC. P.O. BOX 952 Greenbelt, MD 20770 USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com
Keywords: SUPERBOWL 91 REDSKINS !!!!!!!!!!!


    To: ALL      Subj: SUPERBOWL 1991 REDSKINS 

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playoffs of one of the Redskins best years ever. Official NFL FILMS VIDEO
featuring DOLBY Stereo. 

NFL FILMS VIDEO and DOLBY are registered trademarks of their respective
companies.  

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Please send a check or money order for $14.95 US made out to:
 
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                  P.O. BOX 952
                  Greenbelt, MD 20770 USA 

to receive yours right away. Supplies are limited at this price.  If you
like, leave Email and your mailing address so we can prepare your shipment
and put you on list in anticipation of receiving your payment.  First
payed, first shipped basis while supplies last.  If supplies are exhausted
your payment will be refunded promptly.  2 to 3 weeks for delivery.  

Can be reached on Internet at:  ewebber@access.digex.com 

HAIL to the REDSKINS in their defeat of the VIKINGS !!!  : - }  : = o

Newsgroups: ca.environment
From: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder)
Subject: Re: Campus Environmental Contacts
Organization: Quake Public Access
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:03:20 GMT

In article <1332900122@igc.apc.org> bserina@igc.apc.org (Bob Serina) writes:

>It's good to hear about other Cal State groups being active.  We
>here at SAFER are working with the campus facility staff in
>planning a campus pilot recycling program to start next semester.
>The environmental studies faculty has approved intern credit for
>participation in the program.

Why should a political group such as yourself get this kind of support 
when your opponents do not?  This doesn't seem very fair to me.  How about
you?

Perhaps the local objectivists should be given equal time?

>We are also planning to send a letter to State Senator Hayden
>asking for a portion of the Cal State budget be allocated to
>recycling, and the solid waste abatement law be amended to remove
>the exclusion for state colleges.

If the colleges want to recycle etc. then why don't they just do it?
If they don't, why should Herr Hayden meddle?

--Brian
Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<01JAN93.01077145.0061@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
	<1993Jan2.194139.16483@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>
Date: 2 Jan 93 14:58:32

Mr. Berry is mistaken in his belief that the whole world cannot sustain
itself at a U.S. living standard including personal transportation.

He is also mistaken in his belief that the high U.S., European and
Japanese living standards depend on exploiting the resources of
the poor underdeveloped countries.

We are exploiting cheap foreign labor, and if we couldn't do so,
there would be a small reduction in living standards.  However,
1.2 billion Chinese have just recently made themselves available
for exploitation, this being better than their other alternatives.

Moreover, there is progress.  30 years ago, we exploited South
Koreans who worked for $50 a month.  Just recently, the South
Koreans started to exploit the Vietnamese who now get $50 per
month, whereas South Koreans get $1500.  (The South Korean
company Daewoo is putting up a factory in Hanoi to manufacture
television picture tubes.)

As I have done in the past, I am willing to take any two resources
Mr. Berry can mention and show how they are available or substitutable
on a sufficient scale for the world to reach U.S. standards.

The problem is that probably that Mr. Berry has been misinformed by
his teachers and other environmentalist, anti-civilization
propagandists.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment
From: kberry@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Kim A. Berry)
Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix, Sacramento, Ca.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 21:38:14 GMT

In article <JMC.93Jan3020049@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
>Mr. Berry challenges me to offer solutions to all the problems of
>the U.S.  I cannot accept this challenge, because I would have to
>write a book.  As I said, I am willing to accept any two environmental
>or resource challenges.  I believe I could give concise enough answers
>so that people would read to the end.
>--
>John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305

You claim I am mistaken in my belief that the whole world cannot
sustain itself at a U.S. living standard. My claim is based more
on economic realities than an actual resource shortage. I
understand that, in terms of energy, we have the technology to
harness enough sunlight and natural forces to meet the world's
energy needs. But whether people in the third world could afford
the energy is another matter. 

Isn't that the reason forests are being harvested for cooking and
heading fuel, because the residents can't afford petroleum and
electric energy? 

Regarding your offer to propose a solution to two environmental or
resource challenges, I am interested in your ideas. How about:

1.   The problem of selenium and other minerals accumulating in
     California's central valley due to excessive irrigation.

2.   The inability of Ethiopia to either produce enough food to
     feed its growing population or to manufacture something of
     economic value to exchange for food.

Thanks,
Kim

-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------
     (Mr.) Kim Berry              kberry@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US
From: ez026999@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: ca.environment
Subject: Personal Environmental Impact Software
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:33:38 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Originator: ez026999@hamlet.ucdavis.edu

From: ez026999@hamlet.ucdavis.edu ()
Newsgroups: cal.environment
Subject: Personal Environmental Impact Software
Summary: PC software that does personal environmental impact analysis  
Followup-To: 
Distribution: cal
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Keywords: software 

A new PC software program does environmental impact analysis for individuals and gives a score ranging from Eco-Titan to Eco-Tyrannosaurus rex. It covers everything you do "in excruciating detail" (San Jose Mercury News, Computer Section). It costs $30.  Info: 800-688-9006......
From: ez026999@hamlet.ucdavis.edu ()
Newsgroups: cal.environment
Subject: Personal Environmental Impact Software
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: cal
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Keywords: 

From: ez026999@hamlet.ucdavis.edu ()
Newsgroups: cal.environment
Subject: Personal Environmental Impact Software
Summary: PC software that does personal environmental impact analysis  
Followup-To: 
Distribution: cal
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Keywords: software 

A new PC software program does environmental impact analysis for individuals and gives a score ranging from Eco-Titan to Eco-Tyrannosaurus rex. It covers everything you do "in excruciating detail" (San Jose Mercury News, Computer Section). It costs $30.  See add in Fall Utne Reader (p. 134) or call Eight hundred 6889006......
Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment
From: kberry@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Kim A. Berry)
Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix, Sacramento, Ca.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 04:55:49 GMT

In article <JMC.93Jan2145832@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
>Mr. Berry is mistaken in his belief that the whole world cannot sustain
>itself at a U.S. living standard including personal transportation.
>
>He is also mistaken in his belief that the high U.S., European and
>Japanese living standards depend on exploiting the resources of
>the poor underdeveloped countries.

The result would be a closed economic system in which all
participants lived at a first world standard of living. Could the
U.S. cut off all trade without significantly impacting its living
standard? (Many economists claim we could not.) Would that roughly
simulate a global economy composed entirely of first world nations?

>As I have done in the past, I am willing to take any two resources
>Mr. Berry can mention and show how they are available or substitutable
>on a sufficient scale for the world to reach U.S. standards.

I don't dispute we have the technology to generate (harness) more
energy. But first world economic systems are "mining" the earth's
resources beyond replacement level. Consider the 30' elevation drop
in the California central valley due to excessive groundwater
pumping, permanently damaging the aquifers. Consider the saline
buildup due to irrigation; Consider the rate forests are
disappearing both in the U.S. and world, both due to cutting and
toxic poisoning; Consider the rate of species extinction ...

Can these damages realistically be repaired by applying energy? 

My challenge to you is to outline how the U.S. can solve its own
problems of world economic competition, unemployment, poverty, teen
pregnancies, housing costs, unskilled workers... In many respects
the U.S. no longer serves as an example of a first world nation.

Unless we can solve these problems internally, I do not see how we
can propose to be able to solve them for countries in Africa and
South America.

>The problem is that probably that Mr. Berry has been misinformed by
>his teachers and other environmentalist, anti-civilization
>propagandists.

I always wondered what the problem was!  :-)

>--
>John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305

-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------
     (Mr.) Kim Berry              kberry@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US
From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: ca.environment
Subject: Re: Campus Environmental Contacts
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:36:25 GMT
	<BzM4DL.Mpy@quake.sylmar.ca.us>
Distribution: ca
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us's message of Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:03:20 GMT

>> The environmental studies faculty has approved intern credit
>> for participation in the program.
> Why should a political group such as yourself get this kind
> of support when your opponents do not?  This doesn't seem very
> fair to me.

=o= Get a grip.  Colleges are always giving credit for
activities that somebody is going to object to for political
reasons.

=o= Indeed, programs that are implicitly political get far
more support than explicitly political ones.
    <_Jym_>
Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<JMC.93Jan2145832@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
	<1993Jan3.045549.22294@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>
Date: 3 Jan 93 02:00:49

Mr. Berry challenges me to offer solutions to all the problems of
the U.S.  I cannot accept this challenge, because I would have to
write a book.  As I said, I am willing to accept any two environmental
or resource challenges.  I believe I could give concise enough answers
so that people would read to the end.

I suppose he means by

     But first world economic systems are "mining" the earth's
     resources beyond replacement level.

more than the drop in the water table in the Central Valley.
Choose two, and I'll comment.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

Xref: sparky ca.environment:1131 sci.environment:14089
From: donb@crash.cts.com (Donald Bowen)
Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment
Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:06:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In <1992Dec29.190706.17698@bellahs.com> jlwilson@bellahs.com (JAMES L WILSON RD) writes:


>Great ideas, all of them.  But they are still just band aid solutions
>to the real dilemma:  too many people putting too great a stress on a
>planet with a finite amount of resources.  When we can come up with a
>real solution for curbing the current population growth we will ease
>the increasing strain on our fragile environment as well as alleviate
>many other ills facing society today (e.g. crime, poverty, education).  
>This seems to be too big an issue for any country, let alone politician, 
>to handle but one which will sooner or later need to be dealt with.

>Jim Wilson

	All other problems pale by comparison.  If we can control population
growth, we can then progress on the enviornment, on poverty, on education,
on .....
	DonB
Xref: sparky ca.environment:1135 sci.environment:14182
From: CXIR@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXIR000)
Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment
Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:59:50 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <donb.725749564@crash.cts.com> donb@crash.cts.com (Donald Bowen) writes:
>In <1992Dec29.190706.17698@bellahs.com> jlwilson@bellahs.com (JAMES L WILSON RD) writes:
>
>
>>Great ideas, all of them.  But they are still just band aid solutions
>>to the real dilemma:  too many people putting too great a stress on a
>>planet with a finite amount of resources.  When we can come up with a
>>real solution for curbing the current population growth we will ease
>>the increasing strain on our fragile environment as well as alleviate
>>many other ills facing society today (e.g. crime, poverty, education).
>>This seems to be too big an issue for any country, let alone politician,
>>to handle but one which will sooner or later need to be dealt with.
>
>>Jim Wilson
>
> All other problems pale by comparison.  If we can control population
>growth, we can then progress on the enviornment, on poverty, on education,
>on .....
> DonB
>.
>.
- Population control does not solve anything in itself. Our resource
gobblers in the "first world" use up over one hundred times as much of t
he earth's resources and energy as those in the third world. And history
teaches that we in the first world did not limit our population voluntar
ily until we had acheived a raised standard of living which included med
ical care that raised average life expectancies to a high level and insu
red the survival of most children born into adulthood. No ethnic group a
anywhere or at any time in history has ever lowered its "fertility rate"
before infant mortality rates are reduced, additionally, educational lev
els have to be raised. So history teaches that it is precisely the other
way around: FIRST you educate and raise living standards, reduce poverty
THEN population can be controlled. To expect the third world to do it an
y other way is unrealistic and, in fact, it could not be done without a
fascist dictatorship world wide, which I don't think anyone would advoca
te.
Yours, Ian Ritchie,
CXIR@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment
From: mjvande@pbhye.PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman)
Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
Reply-To: mjvande@PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 03:59:15 GMT

>The problem with your proposal that we solve the population problem
>by providing education, reducing poverty, and raising living
>standards is that is nearly impossible on a global scale.
>
>The U.S. cannot even curb these problems within its own borders,
>and the global economy depends upon the exploitation of poorer
>countries. Automated factories flood the world with consumer
>
>o    Provide educational assistance to poor children in places like
>     Brazil and India in exchange for sterilization.
>
>o    Make voluntary sterilization a condition of receiving food aid
>     in places like Ethiopia and Somalia. 
>
>o    Even in the U.S., deny AFDC increases based on additional
>     children, and limit deductions to two dependents.
>
>Please propose a solution to the education, poverty, crime, and
>unemployment in the U.S. before you attempt to solve these problems
>globally.

What about simply eliminating income tax incentives for having children?
Why should we subsidize people having children? Don't we have too many 
already?
From: walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh)
Newsgroups: ca.driving
Subject: Re: Do I need Chains?
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:47:02 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

From article <1992Dec18.193521.11632@prpa.philips.com>, by ross@prpa.philips.com (Ross Morley):
> grant@clarinet.com (Grant Robinson) writes:

> I always test my
> stopping power now & then on straights when there isn't traffic close
> by, by gently touching the brakes to see if I lose traction. Once I do
> I can immediately release the brake to regain it. This way I have
> confidence that I have a certain amount of stopping power, and if it's
> not enough I slow down. Don't try this on a bend!

You mean you actually have determined the limits of your
vehicle so as to be a safer driver?  Why, how un-American!  :-)

#> In fact with many 4WD's once you lose traction, they're
#>one of the worst places to be, because of the extra weight and poor
#>emergency handling.  

> With this I disagree. 4WD definitely helps recovery from a skid, and 
> generally improves handling in cornering. This has been very well 
> proven in road rallying. The extra weight only improves traction.
> 4 wheel engine braking also allows you to slow down better without the 
> sudden bite of brakes.

I would have to agree with Grant as he said "many 4WD's"
because most of these vehicles are lumbering monstrosities
with a high center of gravity and nineteenth century
suspension design.  In the case of my '74 International 4WD,
I like to say, "An extra driveshaft does not an Audi Quattro
make."  I can't think of any situation on pavement where
this beast can compete with any of my various passenger cars.
Locked four wheel drive does not improve handling in on road
static cornering, it just tears up the roads.  Now, systems
like the viscous couplings are another story altogether, it
is just too bad that the weight penalty is so high.
-- 
Mark Walsh (walsh@optilink) -- UUCP: uunet!optilink!walsh
AOL: BigCookie -- Amateur Radio: KM6XU@WX3K -- USCF: L10861
"What, me worry?" - William M. Gaines, 1922-1992
From: calley@optilink.COM (Chris Calley)
Newsgroups: ca.driving
Subject: Re: SMOG TEST QUESTION
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:59:01 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

From article <3860020@mothra.rose.hp.com>, by barry@mothra.rose.hp.com (Barry Fowler):
> Every two years or when ownership is changed.

Some areas do not require a vehicle to be smogged every two years.  This
is the case where I live (western Sonoma County).  I think it has
something to do with the fact that the government considers this to
be a low polution area, whatever that means.

Many people try to get mailing addresses in these areas in order to avoid
the semi-annual smog inspection.

-- 
Christopher A. Calley - all opinions are my own... etc.
email: 	calley@optilink.com
Newsgroups: ca.driving
From: dlee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (David Lee)
Subject: Re: BE CAREFUL with "special fund" fees
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 18:46:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.025345.22924@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>
>>dlee> * The proceeds generated are divided
>>dlee> between The Yosemite Fund and the California Environmental Fund.
>>dlee> The Yosemite Fund raises money for the preservation and
>>dlee> restoration of Yosemite National Park and money generated from
>>dlee> the plates can only be used for this purpose.
>
>Are you a member of the "Yosemite Fund?"  

No, unless buying the plates is intended as "joining" the Fund.

>While I have seen these ads(gave
>some thought to getting one) I am little suspect of the YF.  The reason is
>that the normal non-profit Park specific funding is Natural History Association
>(of Yosemite).  Now the YF MIGHT be a new organization which has set up a
>little monument behind the Visitor Center composed of Banks, Oil companies,
>car companies, and other slightly more suspect firms.  I said MIGHT.
>I have to check this.  There are so many orgs I can't keep track.

Go for it.  I'd welcome any information that you're able to track down.

David

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