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From: macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener)
Subject: should cub scout units have campouts?
Summary: or do pack leaders steal off something reserved to scouts?
Organization: Peppermint Software Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:09:52 GMT

To start off the new year, here's a new discussion topic.

In our last council meeting, we decided to encourage co-ed events
between scout and cub scout units. One of the concrete effects
is that this year, the three-day campout on Whitsuntide (May 29-31)
will also host a cub scout pack in their own tent(s).

I was amazed at how that proposal passed so smoothly, as just six
months ago, the voices from the troop leaders were rather critical
on the cub and camping subject. One of the major arguments at that
time was that campouts were one of the key events in the scouting
program and that it wouldn't come as a surprise anymore to those
newcomers who had campouts in their cub scout years.

What is your personal opinion on that issue?

Should cubs participate in co-ed campouts? 
If yes, under what conditions?
And alternatively, should packs (or dens with older cubs) have a 
campout on their own (as opposed to co-ed campouts with scouts)?


-- Danny Schwendener         macman@bernina.ethz.ch
   Wolfsmeute Nidau/Glockenhof, Sihlstr. 33, CH-8001 Zurich, Switzerland
   m.h.c. Troop 14, San Francisco
From: ggardner@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Grant David Gardner (Vacation Student - Summer 92))
Subject: Re: Rovers, and are there any Europeans out there! 
Originator: ggardner@leather.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU
Reply-To: ggardner@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Grant David Gardner (Vacation Student - Summer 92))
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:33:43 GMT


I am reposting this message as it apparently never appeared !

Hello World.
	I am new to this newsgroup (well newsgroups in general really)
and have been busy reading all the information about Rovers.
	I am the crew leader for the 1st Kissing Point Rover Crew in Sydney
Australia and we have a very active membership of about 20 (50% female). Our principle activities include various rock related activities in the Blue Mountains as well as the usual Rover/Scouting stuff.

	Now, One of our members is about to head off to Europe for a year
or so and would like to make some Rovering contacts over there. I have seen
so far one article from Italy, and one from Sweden. Would you believe that
our Branch headquarters said that they could not supply overseas contacts!!!
	If anyone knows any Europeans Rovers on the net (esp British ones),
I suppose they could reply through this newsgroup since I am sure everyone
would like to hear from them!


____________________________________________________________________________
Grant Gardner, 
Crew Leader, 1st Kissing Point Rover Crew,
North Metropolitan Area, (Sydney)
N.S.W Branch,
Australia.
____________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: kdc5072@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.D. Colagio)
Subject: Re: One on one challenges [ACTIVITY]
Originator: kdc5072@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:33:43 GMT

Another one that I can think of off the top of my head is Leg Wrestling.

Picture first: (laying on the floor)

        Person A (Jim)       ]==<>O
        Person B (Tom)        O<>==[

      [] = feet
      == = legs
      <> = body
       O = head

Jim and Tom (with the inside hand) grab the other persons forearm.  This
will cause the (roughly) pivot point.  A count of 1, 2 is given, and on
each number the inside leg is raised to the vertical position.  On the count
of 3, the legs are interlocked at the knees.

  The Objective is to get you opponent to turn from the original starting
postition.  It is kind of hard to explain, but if you get a partner and try
it, you will see what I mean.

Good luck!

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    =   Kevin Colagio...student at large - Bear code?  You think I   -
    -                aka                 -   know what that is???    =
    =       KDC5072@ultb.isc.rit.edu     -    B2/4 w g++ K s- h+ r   -
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    If RIT even knew I had an opinion, let alone that I was expressing 
     one that they agreed with (or that people thought I was agreeing 
              with), I shudder to think of the consequences.
From: Christine_Code@mindlink.bc.ca (Christine Code)
Subject: Canadian Girl Guides: age groupings
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:57:04 GMT


> Can anyone tell me what sections scouting and guiding is orgainsed into?

I don't know much about the Boy Scout program here, but these are the age
divisions we have in Canadian Guiding:

Sparks - 5 years old
Brownies - 6 to 9 years old
Guides - 9 to 12 years old
Pathfinders - 12 to 15 years old
Senior Branches (choice of Cadets, Rangers, or Junior Leaders) - 15 to 17
years old.

There is also  "Link" for women aged 18 to 30 who wish to maintain contact
with Guiding, but are unable to devote time to regular meetings.  The
"Trefoil Guild" is the same sort of thing but for women over the age of 30.

I can provide brief program descriptions for any of these groups if anybody
is interested.

...Christine


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Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener)
Subject: Re: Best Wishes!
Organization: Peppermint Software Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:27:55 GMT


Hello Bob (and hello Net People, since I'm posting this on rec.scouting)

Happy New Year to you, too! and Happy '93 to all people on the Net!

I just made my pack program for '93, and boy, I've never had such a 
crammed year. As we decided to do more joint events between the pack 
and the troop, we'll have one additional camp and two more weekends 
than usual. 

But I'm happy about it. On the kids' level, it removes the fright 
from the passage to the 'big ones', and on the leader level it helps 
pack and troop leaders to understand each other's (sometimes very 
different) primary issues and concerns and, in the end effect, to 
help each other in their task.

I can recommend to any unit leader to cooperate with his parent 
unit. In the end effect, it mainly brings advantages. It doesn't 
come for free, though. It costs time, and sometimes a lot of nerves 
and patience, but it's definitely worth every drop of sweat. 

Scout troop leaders, will see the percentage of "losses" in their 
new arrivals decrease significantly. Cub pack leaders will get 
understanding and active help from the troops, in all areas where 
such help is needed. Finding new kids for example, providing den 
leaders (in the BSA: den leader assistants), giving a hand in the 
program, and so on.

It's not very warm in Zurich either, although the temperature 
hasn't gone below 0 degrees Farenheit yet (-20 Celsius). We have a 
few places where -40 is the rule at this time of the year, but they 
are in far more rural areas.

What does "Trainer III" in your signature mean?

YiS,


-- Danny Schwendener         macman@bernina.ethz.ch
   Wolfsmeute Nidau/Glockenhof, Sihlstr. 33, CH-8001 Zurich, Switzerland
   m.h.c. Troop 14, San Francisco
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: mteodoro@sumax.seattleu.edu (Mercutio of Verona)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: jlt meetings
Date: 11 Jan 1993 09:07:47 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu


Hello, all. 
	It's been a while since I read or posted to this group
and I am glad things have gotten back to more sensible scouting
activity discussion =)
	My alma mater troop is organizing a district-level jlt function (something
which hasn't been done in recent memory) in a few months and I was just
wondering if anyone had any new or different ideas for *indoor* group
problem-solving activities and leadership development sort of things. 
Non-physical activities would be best, as one of our boys is physically
disabled, and thus many of the traditional sorts of activities (like I did
as a scout) would not be appropriate.

	Any advice, suggestions, etc?

Thanks,

Teodoro
Eagle Class of '90
Chief Seattle Council
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: selvin@nynexst.com (Al Selvin)
Subject: Plaintive request for plot summaries
Reply-To: selvin@nynexst.com
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 20:11:04 GMT


We moved two months ago from Queens to an exurban area (Dutchess
County, NY) and I can no longer walk down to the corner store and buy a
paper with For Better or For Worse, Doonesbury, Brenda Starr, and the
rest. Yet I still want to know what's going on in these strips.

Anyone who would like to supply plot summaries since around 11/1/92
would earn grateful appreciation.

Thanks.

Al
selvin@nynexst.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: roper@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Roper)
Subject: Re: FoxTrot
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
 
 
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:34:06 GMT

I love Foxtrot.  When it first came out, I looked at it and said,
"Oh, great.  Another badly drawn, unfunny strip."
 
After a month, it was "Well, it's badly drawn, but he's got a good
group of characters."
 
Later yet, "Gee, he's slipping some interesting things into the
artwork.  And this family is hysterical.  And additional points for
introducing the first (that I know of) blind supporting character in
a humor strip."
-- 
Bill Roper, roper@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: tucker@pyramid.unr.edu (Aaron Tucker)
Subject: Re: FoxTrot
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:35:09 GMT
X-Posted-From: pyramid.cs.unr.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <93004.155356LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>Does anyone out there in comicland read and enjoy FoxTrot, by
>Bill Amend?  Our sorry-excuse-for-journalism local paper dropped
>it and I miss it.  Yes, I have all the books.  I just need
>contact with fellow fans.
>
>Laura "I want an igauna" Kittleson

	Laura, suppose you could pay Jason 5 bucks for the privilege of
	iguana-sitting?

	Ah, well.

	The best things about this strip is that it's up to date.  Amend knows
	about Batman and why it should be seen in a theater with 70mm & THX
	(something I could not go experience of course...)  Laura Palmer, 
	Macs, any S.F. athlete, China Beach, McEnroe, and on and on.
	If these don't sound up to date, they're not really.  I have to wait
	for the books also. :^(
	
	Each newspaper headline is such a great joke.  Book titles (Clan of
	the Shogun-Cave Bear (close?)) and magazine adds ('kissing lips') are
	super.

	Plus, Amend pushes the censors, (the series where Andy was accussing
	Roger of having an affair, he says he's in his office, and how she knew
	his chair squeaked to which she replied, "Sounds like bed springs to 
	me.")  Oh, lord, this stuff is damn funny.

enjoy,
att
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Subject: Johnny Hazard Reprint series
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:19:50 GMT

I have a question concerning a comic strip reprint series.  Ken Pierce
books reprinted the action/adventure strip Johnny Hazard (a strip similiar
to Steve Canyon).  Does any one know how many volumes they published.  I
know they did at least 10, but would like to know exactly so that I don't
look for volumnes that don't exist.

thanks.

-- 
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<< CS Graduate Student-Florida Atlantic Univ |  only for myself.       >>
<< Internet: michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu        | All my opinions are     >>
<< BitNet: m_brown@fauvax                    |  that: mine & opinions. >>
From: pearse@warren1a.its.rpi.edu (Eric E. Pearson)
Subject: Re: Comix Review II
Reply-To: pearse@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:00:48 GMT

A question for dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann):

	Out of curiosity, what do you(or did you) have to say about WALT KELLY'S POGO?

	-Eric Pearson
	pearse@rpi.edu
From: dan@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: . . . New Tangent (college strips)
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:17:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: spiff.DAN.93Jan12131712
	<Jym.8Jan1993.2254@naughty-peahen>
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization

My favorite college strip was a UMass Amherst strip called
"Yeasthead".  It would be pointless to describe it.  Let it suffice to
say that after a while, its surreal meanderings started to bore even
me, but the fact that it irritated the mainstream readership of the
Daily Collegian pleased me no end.  The other major UMass strip in my
time in the happy valley was a fairly amusing, but mainstream strip
called "Gordy" that eventually managed to rise above its very obvious
stylistic antecedents (those being Bloom County, Bloom County and
Bloom County) and emerge as a  fairly amusing
mainstream-but-for-distribution strip, that even garnered a collected
edition.  

Why are so many college strips so derivative?  I think I've seen about
a zillion Bloom County and/or Calvin and Hobbes wannabe strips in
various college papers, and while some of them are interesting, they
are most often interesting in the areas where they diverge from their
model strip (imagine that).  I always feel a little bit sorry for such
strips, because they're often *very* sincere and well-meaning, but
almost totally devoid of originality.  The ones that break out of
aping someone else are inevitably the ones that actually have a chance
of achieving syndication or any form of wider distribution.

-Dan
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: max@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Max Ziff)
Subject: Re: hagar the H.
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Chicago
	<1993Jan9.183511.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:47:56 GMT

sarust@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Scott A. Rust) writes:
>	I believe Dik Browne is the artist who draws Hagar.

Since Dik Browne's death about 5 years ago, his son Chris has drawn
Hagar.  

Interesting idea of the original poster that the style looks like Don
Martin.  I hadn't thought so, but now that you mention it...  But does
Chris's work resembles Martin more than Dik's did?
--
Donald Ziff (Max)                                    ziff@cs.uchicago.edu

"Sin's most sinister symbol.  
     Git gone -- The very sight of you gives me irkage."  -- Offissa Pupp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com (Barone)
Subject: Dilbert has Internet connectivity
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:55:43 GMT

	Well, I waited a few days and no one else has posted so I
guess it's safe for me to post.  The writer of Dilbert, Scott Adams,
has been including email addresses in the last few installments
of Dilbert.  They appear between the second and third panels.  His
Internet address is scottadams@aol.com and his Prodigy address is
MWPG03A (I don't know if it's case sensitive).

	Dilbert is the strip that I most often cut out and hang on
my wall at work.  Last year's lay off thread (with the Can-o-matic),
company quality program (the post-its that hypnotized the employees),
and company suggestion plan series ("It's a trap!") were right on the
money.  It's uncanny (and it little frightening) that his subject
matter seems to hit home so often.

	This year is off to a good start with the technobullies
and the headbands of obedience.
-- 
Joe Barone
m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com
Oh yeah?  Well, I can't take anything you say seriuosly with that stupid accent.
You sound like you should be ``plotting big trouble for moose and squirrel.''
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: scotbri@flower.samsung.com (Scott Brigham, corp, flower)
Subject: Re: FoxTrot
Originator: scotbri@flower
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:18:58 GMT

> In article <93004.155356LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>Does anyone out there in comicland read and enjoy FoxTrot, by
>Bill Amend?
>
>Laura "I want an igauna" Kittleson

I would like this strip a lot more if he hadn't adopted the "both-eyes-
on-the-same-side-of-the-head" style of drawing his characters.  I don't
know why but it drives me insane!
=========================
 scotbri@rosemount.com  
 Scott Brigham  (AA0HU)
 St. Paul, MN  USA
=========================
From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: FoxTrot
Date: 6 Jan 1993 18:38:17 -0800
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1993Jan6.211858.24115@rosevax.rosemount.com> scotbri@flower.samsung.com (Scott Brigham, corp, flower) writes:
> In article <93004.155356LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>>Does anyone out there in comicland read and enjoy FoxTrot, by
>>Bill Amend?

  Yo!

>I would like this strip a lot more if he hadn't adopted the "both-eyes-
>on-the-same-side-of-the-head" style of drawing his characters.  I don't
>know why but it drives me insane!

  Call me insane, but I _love_ FOXTROT's artwork, and I do think it's gotten
better over the years. Yeah, it's simple. Yeah, it's cartoony. But it fits the
strip so perfectly -- the art is there when it needs to be (say, notice the
little nozzle on the spray bottle Jason is giving to Paige? Why is it
backwards?), and when the art isn't necessary, it slides into the background,
unobtrusively. While Amend doesn't play with styles and angles the way Bill
Watterson does, neither did Charles Schultz, and nobody complains about the
art in PEANUTS.

  There are lots of strips in the newspapers today with bad art. FOXTROT ain't
one of them.

>>Laura "I want an igauna" Kittleson

  But would you keep mealworms in a tub marked "caramel corn" under your bed?
And would you dress him (it must be a him  B-) up for Christmas?

                                                --R.J.
                                                B-)

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From: Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: . . . New Tangent (college strips)
Date: 9 Jan 1993 06:54:20 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
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=o= Interesting title up there, considering that one of my
favorite college strips of all was called _Tangents_.  It was
in a New Hampshire college paper in the early 1980s.  Award-
winning and brilliant, it was, and I never found out what
became of it (or its creator).

> I have a pretty high opinion of the locally produced comic
> strips at the University of Illinois, and was wondering if
> any of you had ever seen them, and what your opinions were.

=o= Hugh Hefner got his start there, drawing insipid strips
about sex.  Barfo.  But hey, Nina Paley *also* got her start
there, and that makes up for a lot. :-)

> The reigning king of local cartoonists is Dave King, who has
> produced "Bob and Dave," . . .

=o= I love "Bob and Dave."  I've read two xeroxed collections,
and would love to know how to get two xeroxed collections of
my very own.

=o= I'm afraid I can't say anything about your strip, since
I've never seen it. :-| :-)
    <_Jym_>			"If you don't get a good night
				kiss, you get Kafka dreams."
				    -- Hobbes

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From: gopher@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Chris Bovitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: FoxTrot
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:34:12 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1993Jan6.211858.24115@rosevax.rosemount.com> scotbri@flower.samsung.com (Scott Brigham, corp, flower) writes:
>> In article <93004.155356LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>>Does anyone out there in comicland read and enjoy FoxTrot, by
>>Bill Amend?
>>
>>Laura "I want an igauna" Kittleson
>
>I would like this strip a lot more if he hadn't adopted the "both-eyes-
>on-the-same-side-of-the-head" style of drawing his characters.  I don't
>know why but it drives me insane!

Maybe the family's name is "Flounder"?  :)


Chris

-- 
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Department of Meteorology |     Weather weenie at large
Univ of Wisc - Madison    |  
moonunit@meteor.wisc.edu  |
From: pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Any Calvin & Hobbes knitting patterns out there?
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:24:10 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in the Twentieth Century

I'd be interested in a Calvin & Hobbes jumper, and wonder is there anyone
out there who's seen a pattern for one, or actually designed a pattern
themselves? I'd especially love one of the two dancing around their
record player (the one on the 'Calvin & Hobbes' cover).

Also, are there any other appropriate newsgroups that I should post this
too? (Couldn't find any rec.knitting :-()

P.
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From: joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Foxtrot Fans Unite!
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:33:43 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In <93008.094959LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:

>Dear FTFs,

>What say we each drop Bill Amend a note, a postcard?  The only
>way I know of to reach his is at Andrews & McSqueal.  Does anyone
>know of another address?

The c/o A&M does work, at least sometimes.  I wrote a hideously pathetic
drooling fanboy letter to him and got a nice response (he even adressed
the envelope, assuming he letters his own strips which I think he does).  The
response was postmarked (big surprise) San Francisco.  

I've written other letters to him since then, and didn't get another
response, so either I was no longer important enough (oh, say it's not
so, Quincy) or they didn't foreward it to him.  If anyone knows a better
way than going thru the syndicate, post it.  I don't expect one, though.


"The" Josh Mercer
(Member of the "Joey Barnes" club)