HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yatrou@INRS-Telecom.Uquebec.CA (Paul Yatrou)
Subject: Are there any good nn-like newsreaders for the mac???
Keywords: news readers, mac, nn
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Montreal, Canada.
Date:  8 Sep 92 20:43:01 GMT


A friend is intersted in acquiring a "good" newsreader for his
Mac. By good he means it should at least construct its own headers
database, much like nn, and update them in the background so that
when it's started up it won't take forever to read in the newsgroups.
He's currently (not)using "NetNewsReader" and "TheNews", both of
which appear to be major turtles.

I use nn, which IMHO is an excellent model for what he needs. Is there
such a thing for the Mac??

Sorry if this question is a FAQ. I tried to locate the answer in the various
related newsgroups but came up empty handed. Thanks in advance.
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BNR Ltd      |  yatrou@bnr.ca (alternate)      |         your wife?
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: nbaym@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Baym)
Subject: News databases?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:13:30 GMT


A friend tells me there's been some discussion in this group about databases
for news articles and email (and the lack of them?). Thus this seems like a
good place to put out my request for aid. If anyone can be of any help with
this problem please email me.

I'm working on a project involving all the posts from one newsgroup over a
period of several months. What I would like to do is at LEAST be able to
feed my files (which are stored in mail format so programs like "elm" and
"mail" recognize the posts as distinct) through some kind of script which
would demarcate each line of the header as separate so that I could then
pop the information into an (as of yet mysterious and unnamed) database
which would be able to easily do things like tell me how many people
posted each month, how often each person posted, how many new people posted
each month, etc. 

So I guess this is really two problems (1) how do I get the files transformed
into recognizable (and still linked) subunits and (2) any database advice?

I am working on UNIX mainframes and a Macintosh. 

Any insight into the problems, no matter how small, appreciated (including
other groups to which I might cross post this request!)

Thanks,

Nancy Baym   nbaym@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu


-- 
Nancy Baym  (N-Baym@uiuc.edu)  	"Education is the only place where people try 
Speech Communication/U of I      to get the least for their money"    --my mom
From: bcs@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: nntp, cnews, trn - latest versions?
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:51:34 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Hi all,

I've read news for a couple of years now via ANUnews on the (no flames 
thanx, I know what I'm talking about!) Vomit-Making-System, but I now want
to build nntp, cnews and trn on our Sun4 workstations.

I've found them all, but none of them - cnews in particular - seem to be 
"recent" releases.  I see from a previous posting that trn in now in 2.2,
and cnews *must* have been updated since comp.sources.unix volume12 - and
I can't see a FAQ here (this undoubtedly qualifies) so please, someone put
me out of my misery - where can I find the latest versions?

Replies by mail please, TIA,

+-Brent Summers, U of Waikato, NZ----------------------------------------+
|    "Laugh and the world ignores you.  Crying doesn't help either."     |
|      All opinions expressed are, of course, solely my own errors.      |
+------------------------------------------------------bcs@waikato.ac.nz-+
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: yenamand@giga.cs.umn.edu (Murthy yenamandra)
Subject: Re: From: line in tin
Organization: :noitazinagrO
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:03:36 GMT

>I Wrote:
>: 
>:     When I post from 'tin', it sets up my 'From:' line to user@hostname
>: instead of the full address. Since the hostname on our machine
>: returns just the machine name, this gets set to, for example,
>: murthy@molbio instead of murthy@molbio.cbs.umn.edu. When someone
>: tries to reply from a host in another domain, they can't recognize
>: the address. Setting 'REPLYTO' won't help because the newsreaders keep
>: sending the autoreply to the 'From" address.

First of all, thanks to all those who sent me helpful suggestions (using
a Fully Qualified Domain Name for hostname comes out on top). I got the
latest version of 'tin' source and it seems to clear the problem. It seems we
had a slightly old version and I was stuck maintaining it without
knowing anything.

Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea) writes:
>All you need to do is specify -DNNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN=\"cbs.umn.edu\" in CFLAGS
>in the Makefile and to recompile tin.

After I posted my query, I read the INSTALL file closely and discovered
this. But with the new version I have now, this is not necessary (and if
used it will append the domain name twice). The generic Makefile in the
new version (without the NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN flag and with the NNTP_ONLY
flag) works fine. Thanks for the quick help, though.

Murthy
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Dept of Comp Science 	|     I lift my lids and all is born again.
Univ of Minnesota	|     (I think I made you up inside my head.)"
yenamand@cs.umn.edu	|
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.sources.d,comp.sources.d,alt.sys.amiga.uucp,de.comp.sys.amiga
From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Tin v1.1 PL6 newsreader posted to alt.sources
Organization: GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:15:08 GMT

Iain-  Mail to you seems to be bouncing:

  ----- Transcript of session follows -----
While talking to [139.4.2.33]:
>>> RCPT To:<iain.lea@anl433.uucp>
<<< 550 <iain.lea@anl433.uucp>... User unknown
550 <iain.lea%anl433.uucp@germany.eu.net>... User unknown

Has anyone else had luck in getting mail to Iain?

--
Dave Pascoe
Internet: pascoe@rocky.gte.com
From: gerry@seq1 (G.D.Pratt)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: configuring tin to use shared index files
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:14:32 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


With tin5 1.1 PL5 (soon to be pl6) we want to read the articles from a
news server over NNTP but have shared index on our main user machine in 
/usr/local/lib/news/.tin/.index. Is it possible to configure a version 
of tin that will find this index without having to use the -I flag?

I built the "dynix" version with these flags:-

# For Sequent DYNIX
dynix:
	@echo "Compiling for Sequent DYNIX..."
		@$(MAKE) CC=$(CC) CFLAGS='$(COPTS) -DBSD -DNNTP_ABLE -DNO_NNTP_EXTS -DNNTP_INEWS_GATEWAY=\"$(NNTP_INEWS_GATEWAY)\" -DNNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN=\"$(NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN)\" -DLIBDIR=\"$(LIBDIR)\" -DSPOOLDIR=\"$(SPOOLDIR)\"' \
		 LIBS="-lcurses -ltermcap -lseq" \
		  EXE=tin linkit

This works OK if:-

1) tin is set group ID:-

	~/tin-1.1pl5/ > chmod 2775 tin
	~/tin-1.1pl5/ > ls -lg tin
	-rwxrwsr-x  1 news     news       289130 Sep 11 16:40 tin*

2) is invoked with -I flag as in

	tin -r -I/usenet/.tin/.index comp.text.tex

Is the locking mechanism necessary - haven't seen any problems so far.
/usenet/.tin/.index just contains group news owned files created by different
users reading the news:-

ls -alg /usenet/.tin/.index/
total 149
drwxrwx---  2 news     news          512 Sep 11 16:42 ./
drwxrwx---  3 news     news          512 Sep 11 14:36 ../
-rw-r--r--  1 cca13    news        25296 Sep 11 15:15 10.1
-rw-r--r--  1 cca13    news        13318 Sep 11 15:07 1088.1
-rw-r--r--  1 cca13    news        22911 Sep 11 14:55 128.1
-rw-r--r--  1 gerry    news         3512 Sep 11 14:59 1401.1
-rw-r--r--  1 gerry    news          900 Sep 11 14:50 251.1
-rw-r--r--  1 gerry    news         1824 Sep 11 15:19 330.1
-rw-r--r--  1 gerry    news         2382 Sep 11 14:51 358.1
-rw-r--r--  1 gerry    news         2309 Sep 11 14:59 411.1
-rw-r--r--  1 cca13    news        45511 Sep 11 16:42 500.1
-rw-r--r--  1 gerry    news        17041 Sep 11 15:17 528.1
-rw-r--r--  1 gerry    news         9989 Sep 11 16:38 551.1

The reason we want to set it up like this is that running tind every
30 mins or so on the news server machine seems to use a lot of CPU time 
(> 30 mins). Also having it setup like this means that the most frequently
read newsgropus will have automatically updated indexes.

gerry
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From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Bug in rn, and rrn@lib.tmc.edu doesn't work
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:25:52 GMT
Reply-To: mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
X-Received: by usenet.pa.dec.com; id AA02928; Tue, 8 Sep 92 05:26:12 -0700
X-Received: by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com; id AA22983; Tue, 8 Sep 92 05:26:10 -0700
X-Received: from ef2007.efhd.ford.com by srlns1.srl.ford.com (4.1/Ford 2.0) via id AA01173; Tue, 8 Sep 92 08:26:16 EDT
X-Received: by ef2007.efhd.ford.com (4.1/Ford 2.0) via id AA25824; Tue, 8 Sep 92 08:25:53 EDT
X-To: news.software.readers.usenet
X-Whois: MJO17 (NIC/DARPA Registry)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

I have a minor problem with rn.  I tried mailing rrn@lib.tmc.edu, and
received the following bounce.

Could someone confirm/help me out with my initial problem, and resolve
why Stan Barber's a "User unknown"?  

Forwarded message:
>From MAILER-DAEMON@lib.tmc.edu Tue Sep  8 08:22:25 1992
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 07:24:31 CDT
>From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@lib.tmc.edu>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9209081224.AA03210@lib.tmc.edu>
To: <mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Mike... User unknown
550 "|/home/sob/bin/mailack rrn /home/sob"... User unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: by lib.tmc.edu; Tue, 8 Sep 92 07:14:05 CDT
Received: from ef2007.efhd.ford.com by srlns1.srl.ford.com (4.1/Ford 2.0) via 
	id AA00990; Tue, 8 Sep 92 08:11:44 EDT
Received: by ef2007.efhd.ford.com (4.1/Ford 2.0) via 
	id AA25548; Tue, 8 Sep 92 08:11:24 EDT
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Message-Id: <9209081211.AA25548@ef2007.efhd.ford.com>
Subject: Bug with "kill" in rn 4.4.2
To: rrn@lib.tmc.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 8:11:23 EDT
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Whois: MJO17 (NIC/DARPA Registry)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

When I enter newsgroups, sometimes I type "=" right after I've entered
the newsgroup and before I read the newsgroup.

Now if I type "k" right after this and before I actually read the
article I want to kill, I get "cannot delete null subject", a
segmentation fault, and rn exits.

I presume this is a bug of some description, which is why I'm mailing
rrn@lib.tmc.edu.  :)  

					...Mike

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.sources.d,comp.sources.d,alt.sys.amiga.uucp,de.comp.sys.amiga
From: yenamand@giga.cs.umn.edu (Murthy yenamandra)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: From: line in tin
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:54:13 GMT
Organization: :noitazinagrO

Hi,

    When I post from 'tin', it sets up my 'From:' line to user@hostname
instead of the full address. Since the hostname on our machine
returns just the machine name, this gets set to, for example,
murthy@molbio instead of murthy@molbio.cbs.umn.edu. When someone
tries to reply from a host in another domain, they can't recognize
the address. Setting 'REPLYTO' won't help because the newsreaders keep
sending the autoreply to the 'From" address.

    I can see two obvious solutions: 1) To change my hostname and 2) to
hack the source to make it use the full address. What I'd like to know
is, is there another way to do this that I'm missing? Is there a
variable similar to 'REPLYTO'? Or is there a lib file I can set up like
for 'rn'? TFM is mum and any help is much appreciated. Also, I no longer
have the source and I'd like to know where I can ftp it from.

Thanks a bunch,

Murthy

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Dept of Comp Science 	|     I lift my lids and all is born again.
Univ of Minnesota	|     (I think I made you up inside my head.)"
yenamand@cs.umn.edu	|
Xref: sparky news.software.readers:1825 alt.sources.d:1140 comp.sources.d:1278 alt.sys.amiga.uucp:2164 de.comp.sys.amiga:672
From: ajahn@digi.lonestar.org (Alfredo Jahn)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.sources.d,comp.sources.d,alt.sys.amiga.uucp,de.comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Tin v1.1 PL6 newsreader posted to alt.sources
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:18:30 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1992Sep14.211508.12202@europa.asd.contel.com> pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe) writes:
>Iain-  Mail to you seems to be bouncing:
>
>  ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>While talking to [139.4.2.33]:
>>>> RCPT To:<iain.lea@anl433.uucp>
><<< 550 <iain.lea@anl433.uucp>... User unknown
>550 <iain.lea%anl433.uucp@germany.eu.net>... User unknown
>
>Has anyone else had luck in getting mail to Iain?

No. I tried to email him to tell him that compiling for Apollo
gave me the error:  Don't know how to make tin.h

>--
>Dave Pascoe
>Internet: pascoe@rocky.gte.com


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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: NFS vs NNTP for news reading
Date: 11 Sep 1992 21:21:17 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <19920910173943SEB1525@MVS.draper.com> SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher) writes:
>An important argument in favor of NNTP over NFS for news reading
>is that some platforms won't have decent NFS access, or any NFS
>access at all.  (IBM mainframes, for example, will probably never
>be NFS clients.)

Naturally, if you don't have a choice, you don't have a choice.  I think
the point of this discussion is which to use when you do.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: configuring tin to use shared index files
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: ANL A433, Siemens AG., Germany.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:04:15 GMT

G.D.Pratt (gerry@seq1) wrote:
: 
: With tin5 1.1 PL5 (soon to be pl6) 
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Its already been posted to alt.sources.

: The reason we want to set it up like this is that running tind every
: 30 mins or so on the news server machine seems to use a lot of CPU time 
: (> 30 mins). 

I know. The PL6 tind has been tweaked to handle the CPU bashing problem.
I posted some timings between tind PL5 & tind PL6 a short while ago.

Iain

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: sam@csi.compuserve.com (Sam Neely)
Subject: Re: How can Compuserve folk read comp.multimedia?
Keywords: nn compuserve newsreader
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:37:39 GMT

In article <BunDMM.Myq@csi.compuserve.com> sam@csi.compuserve.com (Sam Neely) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.172009.14555@til.til.com> erik@maui.til.com (Erik Horstkotte) writes:
>>I believe that somebody recently (about 4 months ago?) started an
>>extra-cost service for CompuServe users that gave them access to
>>usenet
>>news.  I don't recall the name of the service, however.  He could try
>>sending email to one of the sysops, or using GO FEEDBACK.
>
>Not true.  CompuServe does not have Usenet News access directly, though
>some of the groups are forwarded in via a mailing list.
>
>Now if you'd like to see news on CompuServe, send a note off to feedback.

Whups.  I should have read the original post a little more closely..

There is a company (?Bear Software?) that will send News to CompuServe
mail for a fee.  I do not have their address, but I'm sure that someone
will chime in here...
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: kemp@convex.com (Phil Kemp)
Subject: Re: News Reader for DOS/FTP Software?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:53:17 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <seant.69.0@sunfish.ratsys.com> seant@sunfish.ratsys.com (Sean D. True) writes:

>I am using Trumpet and the NewsX wrapper. Thanks to Peter Tattam
>and Guy Helmer, a small amount of code lets Trumpet run under FTP Software
>kernels. Looks for newsabi.exe and newsx.exe ... on your favorite FTP site.

Sean, is this the original version? As you may remember, there were
some problems with dv/x and windows with the wrapper... I'd love to
see if anyone has fixed them yet?

PK
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CONVEX Computer Canada Ltd.           Fax:(403)-261-2029
Calgary, Alta.                  Internet:kemp@convex.com
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: HELLO...                                                                        
From: Waynes-World@BEIZ.mediatex.ch (053221412: Lenherr Hanspeter)
Date: 9 Sep 1992 21:05:46 CET
Organization: MEDIAtex AG, CH-8807 Freienbach/SZ

|B                                    B|
|E           CH: VTX *3600#           E|
|I           D:  BTX *28881#          I|
|Z                                    Z|
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: net.cluelesness(sic) (was Re: VNEWS: Help needed with kill files)
From: b12635@ged.gedlab.allied.com (Phil Tait, (602) 231-7104)
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:58:07 GMT
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Distribution: na
Organization: ASAC, GED, Phx, Az
Nntp-Posting-User: b12635

In article <10SEP199205450805@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:
> I have finally come to the decision that net.cluelesness has gotten so
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^
> bad that I need to use kill files.  I have seen the VNEWS documentation
[...]
> I know I had other questions when I first thought of this, but I can't
                                                                 ^^^^^^^
> seem to think of them.  If anyone responds, they'll probably come to
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> mind then.  Thank you in advance for your response.

Must be contagious.

-- 

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(602) 231-7104    Aeronet: GED::B12635       FQDN: postmaster@gedlab.allied.com
From: cracraft@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Stuart Cracraft)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: News Reader for Locally-Resident News Article Files
Date: 13 Sep 92 05:39:32 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab


Hi,

I have the rn sources from the volume1 archives of comp.sources.unix
from gatekeeper.dec.com. Before I go installing this as my system's
mail reader, is there a more recent version of rn with improvements
(reverse headers, like "=" but backwards, would be one such improvement)
available?

Or is there a better news-reader?

One note: my system is not a Usenet or Internet system and gets its
news in a different way. Hence I will sacrifice the ability to post,
but would like a good newsreader that could take the groups and
articles in /usr/spool/news/*/* and provide good use/reading/features.

	Thanks,
	   Stuart Cracraft
	   [Toshiba Corp.]

Stuart
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: bobs@moo.org (Bob Smith)
Subject: Re: Hunt for Clipper
Reply-To: bobs@moo.UUCP (Bob Smith)
Organization: World Wide User Group (WWUG)
Distribution: news.software.readers
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 16:50:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep02.081838.18817@ecst.csuchico.edu> ssardar@ecst.csuchico.edu (Suhail Sardar) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>	I am trying to find a software package called Clipper (ver 5.01),
>(e.g. manufacturer or publisher etc), I will much appreciate it if any          one of you kind souls out there have any info on this.  Please send mee 
>e-mail or just post it on this news group.
>Many thanks.  
>
Clipper 5.1 is a database application development system, Nantucket is the
compnany, at 213-390-7923, sells for $795.00, though you can get it some
places for less.


>				Suhail.
>


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From: sinigagl@uqbar.cirfid.unibo.it (Fulvia Sinigaglia)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: News Readers info requested
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:57:23 GMT
Organization: Cirfid Laboratory, University of Bologna, Italy


I'm looking for bibliographic references to articles or other works 
about any existing or still in project News Reader.

Thank you in advance
 

Fulvia Sinigaglia

sinigagl@uqbar.cirfid.unibo.it
From: neal@neal.ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: News Reader for DOS/FTP Software?
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:19:20 GMT
Organization: COMSAT Labs
NNTP-Posting-Host: neal.ctd.comsat.com

Any recommendations for DOS newsreader to use with FTP Software (NNTP
to unix server)?
Thanks.
Xref: sparky news.software.readers:1827 alt.sources.d:1142 comp.sources.d:1280 alt.sys.amiga.uucp:2166
From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.sources.d,comp.sources.d,alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Tin v1.1 PL6 newsreader posted to alt.sources
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:02:06 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Iain Lea (Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net) wrote:
| Dave Pascoe (pascoe@rocky.gte.com) wrote:
| :
| : Mail to you seems to be bouncing:
| :
| :   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
| : 550 <iain.lea%anl433.uucp@germany.eu.net>... User unknown
|        ^    ^
|
| Hah! your mailer has changed the address Iain.Lea to iain.lea
| I will add the alias iain.lea to our sendmail. Try again in a
| couple of days.

For a minute I thought that Mr. Lea's system was wrong, and that the mailer
should be case-insensitive.  Then I checked out RFC 822; it is quite explicit
that the "local-part" of an address (the part to the left of the "@") must
preserve case information.

I have the feeling there are a /lot/ of broken mailers out there...

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org