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Subject: Performance Catalog/Shop info
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:48:59 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.
Summary: Update: snail address

	If you want to order from Performance, get a catalog, etc. call 
1-800-PBS-BIKE.  Customer Service is 1-800-727-2433.

Snail:	Performance Bicycle Shop
	One Performance Way
	PO Box 2741
	Chapel Hill, N.C. USA
	27515-2741

	Their catalog lists both 27515 and 27514 as Zip codes.  I went with 515
since it is the one on their order form.  The other may be their bike shop zip
code.

	Current prices:
	(summer catalog)

	Pad combo (wrist,elbow,knee):	44.95  (page 22, #12-1219)
	Knee:	19.95	(pg 22, #12-1218)
	Elbow:	14.95	(pg 22, #12-1217)
	Wrist:	16.95   (pg 22, #12-1216)

	Vector skates:	129.95 (pg 22, #12-1271) whole sizes only
	Lightning:	169.95 (pg 23, #12-1299) whole/half sizes to 12

	They also have computers/wheels/carryalls/poles/etc.

	The pad combo sale price is the same in the fall catalog, so don't look
for big price drops until winter.  I bought the pad combo and they are fine. 
Cheaper than what the local shops had, too :).

	Also, Performance has a reputation of getting things to you FAST.  I
usually get things in 2-3 days with normal shipping.

	Their guarantee is NOT limited to 30 days.  If you're ever unhappy,
send it back.  No restocking fee either.

	I can't recommend this place enough.  (Too bad I don't work for them, I
could probably get paid for that :)

Brett                                                      
_______________________________________________________________________________
Proconsul Computer Consulting                                        CHA-CHING!
Better, Cheaper, Faster					       (Pick any two :)
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From: aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:34:40 GMT
Subject: Re: ** Inline Hockey FAQ  (Beta Test Version)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.skate

| Thomas A. Darling \\\ Fact HQ Studio * record production * dance re-mixing
| darling@cellar.org \\\ music for film * The Cellar BBS:215/654-9184 * FACT

Nice job on the FAQ.  It's almost enough to get me to try this.  <grin>  I'm
into free-style, and have only seen one game of hockey anywhere in my area 
anyway.  (rats!)

Jim 8')s  |  aites@hpsmpa.lvld.hp.com

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: pweissma@shearson.com (Philip Weissman)
Subject: Performance Skates
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:13:13 GMT

A friend of mine ordered a pair of skates from Performance.  I don't
remember which model he bought but it was the one that they claim is
similar to the TRS Lightening.  My friend, being a half size, was
forced to go choose between going up or down a half size because the
skates came only in whole sizes.  He went up a half size.  The skates
arrived and my friend was satisfied with the quality but they didn't
fit quite right.  He exchanged the skates for the next smaller size.
These, he said fit perfectly well but the frame on the second pair was
completely different than the frame on the first pair.  On the new
frame, it was impossible to change the height of the wheels and on one
of the skates, the front wheel was off the ground in a permanently
rockered position.  On the other skate, all four wheels were in line.

My friend, decided to return these skates and bought TRS Lightnings.
These, he says, are for superior in every way to the Performance skates.
The wheels are faster, the boots fits better and give better support,
the quality is better ...   

Based on this experience, I advise people to not buy Performance
skates.  Performance's customer service is top-notch but the quality
of this particular product is lacking.

-Philip
From: zeke@wdl50.wdl.loral.com (Solly Ezekiel)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Ice Skate Boot Prices
Keywords: Ice Skate Boot
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:02:03 GMT
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs

In article <1992Aug12.222752.10809@u.washington.edu> icedance@milton.u.washington.edu (Ann Schmidt) writes:

>They need to see you in person to fit the correct size boot to
>your foot (even if you are getting stock boots) because ice
>boots are so closely fitted.  A typical fitting can take up to
>half an hour, which is why they want you to make an appointment.

...to which I would add, when you go in for your fitting, bring a pair
of thin dress socks to wear, since that's what you'll be skating in (no
thick cotton socks- they'll just bunch up around your toes).

  +--------------------------+---------------+---------------------------+
  | "Asps!!  Very dangerous. |               | My opinions are not those |
  |     ...You go first."    |  Sol Ezekiel  |      of my employer,      |
  |          -- Sallah       |               |    Space Systems/Loral    |
  +--------------------------+---------------+---------------------------+
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: tlouie@athena.mit.edu (Tom Louie)
Subject: Relubbing bearings
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:44:41 GMT


Following the directions in the FAQ, I have opened, cleaned, and
relubbed the bearings in my Aeros.  I used Finish Line teflon grease.
I'm curious under normal conditions and use, how long will it be until I
have to relub the bearings?  And if I do relub, do I clean them out
thoroughly (soak in turp, blow dry, etc) or do I just smear more grease
in?

Tom
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: 80 mm wheel on Aeroblade....
From: kiwong@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kinsley Wong)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:19:17 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Does anybody know that 80 mm wheels can be installed on Aeroblades or not???

Thank you inadvance for your information!!

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Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Ice skate linings?
From: ndliles@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:24:55 EST

In article <1992Aug16.175559.27640@athena.mit.edu>, wanderer@athena.mit.edu (Opus) writes:
> I was wondering.. does anyone sell ice skate linings?? Mine are all
> messed up, although I still like the skates (and can't afford new ones)
> I can't find any store that sells parts of ice skates though, besides the
> blades!
> 
> (these are linings for the hard plastic skates, or whatever they';re made
> of)
> 
> thanks!

Dear Wanderer,
	I have found in the past that the manufacturer of molded skates
ie Micron, Lange, ect., have offered replacement linings. Go to a store
which sells your brand of skate and find out how to contact the manufacturer.
Or if that doesn't work, call long distance (513) 563 - 0008, ask for Rich
and they can tell you.
			nd
From: aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:36:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Suggested protection & skates?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.skate


| When you are at a point where falls are not something to avoid, an interesting
| thing happens: your frequency of falling will drop significantly. Falling is
| useful in the process of measuring yourself on the tension/relaxation
| continuum.

-phil

I heartily agree with what you've said, and would like to add a small comment
concerning the 'flip-side' of relaxed falling, and measuring yourself.

IF you are agressively challenging yourself (or your current skill level) then
the following might also be related....

"If you don't fall...then you aren't working hard enough."  - da' Coach

So, ALWAYS be protected and ready to take that fall. Ya' might learn sumthin.

Jim 8')  |  aites@hpsmpa.lvld.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: cda@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Carmi D. Abramowitz)
Subject: Ice Skating Shows/Competitions info
Keywords:  ice skate, competition, tournament 
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:11:14 GMT

	Where can I find out a schedule of ice skating tournaments, events,
competitions, etc?  I live in New York, and I would be interested in attending
any nearby events.  Please email me any respsonses.  Thanks!

Carmi
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: akins@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu (gregory adkins)
Subject: Re: Suggested protection & skates?
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:02:44 GMT

In article <42090025@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites) writes:

>IF you are agressively challenging yourself (or your current skill level) then
>the following might also be related....
>
>"If you don't fall...then you aren't working hard enough."  - da' Coach
>
>So, ALWAYS be protected and ready to take that fall. Ya' might learn sumthin.
>
I'll post something with the risk of being flamed for cross-posting.

I haven't tried skating yet, but the comments on willingness to fall
reminds me of an experience in skiing.  

Last year, after getting bored of the unchallenging slopes in 
Ohio (yes they do ski in OH), I decided to try snowboarding.
I fell more than I had in 5 years.  While I ended up
in the ski-lodge at the end of the day, cold, soaking wet,
and pulling ice out of every imaginable place, I had the best
time that I had had on the slopes in years.

Anybody can do something that's unchallenging.  The real 
athlete pushes themselves constantly.

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: rjm@lookout.uswest.com (Rod J. Murillo)
Subject:  Celestial Seasoning in-line Classic - Boulder
Organization: US WEST Communications
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:24:28 GMT

Yesterday was the 1st stage of the three stage Celestial Seasonings In-line Classic here
in  Colorado.  This is possibly the 1st stage-style in-line event in the country, and has
attracted some of the top skaters from around the country.  The format is 2.1 mile
time trial (Boulder), a 15k circuit race (Copper Mountain) and a 10k criterium
(Vail).  Steve Ridley placed 1st, and Eric Flaim placed 2nd in the time trial yesterday.  I
unfortunately could not compete because of conflicts with work, but I may enter
the 10k crit in Vail.

According to Steve,  Mo  Siegel (the chairman-founder of Celestial Seasoning) is very
enthusiatic about in-line racing, and is talking abount an expanded race next year, and
a prize list of $25,000!  For you bike race afficionados , Mo Siegel organized the original
Red Zinger Classic, which later became the Coors Classic.  His support for in-line racing
could be very valuable and could help it become a legitimate professional sport.

Anecdote:  My brush with Greatness:

Last night while I was out skating, I stopped by a local pasta house and ran into 
some of the 'Legends of In-line Skating' having dinner:  Steve Ridley, Eric Flaim, Eddy Matzger,
John Lowden (editor of In-Line),  Ron Lowery,  Jim Rosasco, Karen Edwards and Jeff
Schuler (manager of Team Kryptonics/Rollerblade, former member of the 7-11 cycling
team). Everyone had Team Krypto t-shirts on; the whole scene would have made a great
ad for some pasta company.  I sat and had a couple beers with them and talked about the
upcoming races.   It was quite fun.  

Hopefully the In-Line Classic will become a larger race in the future.  It could become
a real boon to the sport.

Later, 

Rod Murillo
Not training much, but still skating for Team DV8
From: hess@convex.com (Mark Hess)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Skating and Weather
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:48:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

i am interested in some talk about the relationship between skates and water.
i don't need to hear the fact that a wet surface is more slippery and thus
skating much more difficult.

i am more interested in hearing whether skating in the rain or on wet surfaces
will ruin skates.  the skates in question are RollerBlade CoolBlades and Ultra
Wheels EuroGlides if that matters.  i am about to get my skates in the mail and
i really don't want to go out right away and ruin the bearings or the axles or
something like that but it is supposed to rain off and on for the rest of the 
week here.  if it's cloudy out should one stay home?

anxious for new skates in Dallas,

markus 
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: pinch@cs.washington.edu (Ricardo Pincheira)
Subject: Re: "Performance" Vector Inline Skates?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:06:41 GMT

>In article <AeW09tW00WBNI3VfBx@andrew.cmu.edu>, Claire Rene Palmgren <cp0k+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> I'm in the market for some inline skates.  I just received the latest
> catalog from Performance Bike Shop.  They are selling a skate they claim
> has features of skates which sell for >200 for $129.  
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with the Performance Vector skates?

I believe that at least some of the Performance skates (perhaps the Vector )
are made by Roller Derby, generally not a confidence-inspiring name.  I believe
the Roller Derby connection because I did take a look once at one of the
Roller Derby skates and it sure as hell looked like one of the skates pictured
in one of the Performance catalogs from a few months ago (the same
weird-looking angular frame.)  Now, was it the Vector, though?.  The skate
seemed ok quality-wise, though the wheels seemed a little tight and spun
poorly and seemed awfully small (72.5 I think) relative to  today's trend
towards ever-larger wheels (82mm from Hyper, what's next, 83 from Kryptonics?)

I believe Performance does have a 30 day return guarantee, what the heck,
buy them and take a closer look when you get them and if they seem ok, use
them. . .  Then again, you should be able to find the latest incarnation
of Lightnings by THE COMPANY for only slightly more money. . .

Ricardo
From: icedance@milton.u.washington.edu (Ann Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Ice Skate Boot Prices
Keywords: Ice Skate Boot
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:27:52 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug12.200759.19402@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:

>
>SP-Teri:  I found their phone number in an old phone book, but when I called
>them up their phone was disconnected.  I tried finding them via 411, but had 
>no luck.  If anybody knows what happened to them, please let me know.

	new address:
	S P Teri, 436 North Canal St., Unit #1, South San
	Francisco CA 94080  phone 415-871-1715
   They moved to a new office/factory a year or two ago.

They need to see you in person to fit the correct size boot to
your foot (even if you are getting stock boots) because ice
boots are so closely fitted.  A typical fitting can take up to
half an hour, which is why they want you to make an appointment.

Ann
From: westover@npdiss8.StPaul.NCR.COM (Craig Westover)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: skating and the economy
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:40:32 GMT
Reply-To: westover@npdiss8.StPaul.NCR.COM (Craig Westover)
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR NPD StPaul

A couple of observations on this thread.

This was the first nationals I've ever attended, although I have seen
tapes of some of the previous world class events. My daughter has been
skating three years, two in JO, and this year in Juvenile Girls Singles.
She went to Nationals this year (after skating way over her head at
Regionals). She went through "Nationals Shock" and didn't do well (27th),
but the experience was great, and she's excited about next year.

I mention all that because I've always found the Primary, Juvenile,
and Elementary events the most fun to watch. At that age, the kids 
seem to skate with more abandon and put more into the programs. The
first and second place finishers in Juvenile girls I thought were
great programs to watch. Unfortunately, it seems that as you move up
the age groups, the number of competitors gets smaller, and it's not
always those at the bottom of the pack that are dropping out.

Burn out, especially for kids who have some ability, strips the sport
of a lot of good skaters. Even in my daughter's division I've seen girls
breakdown after performances (regardless of how they've skated). I've
seen some really ugly performances by coaches chiding kids about the way
they've skated. My point is, at the younger ages, I think there needs
to be more emphasis on keeping kids in the sport rather than on near-
term placements.

My daughter's coach is especially good at this. As
I mentioned, we never
expected my daughter to make nationals this year. Her coach has always
stressed improvement and told her that her that she's pointing for second-
year elementary, first year freshman before she's really competitive on
a national level. I think that's really helped her when she hasn't done
well in competition and helped her put the really great progress she's
made into perspective.

The economy probably has something to do with the raw number of kids
involved in skating (it's a stretch for us to keep two kids involved),
but I don't think the sport does enough to keep kids involved once they
get started. Roller skating doesn't have the raw number of kids involved
that ice does, and can't afford to have as many, especially the really
talented kids, drop out along the way.

Just my humble opinion.
From: pdm@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu (peter d. mark)
Subject: rollerblades vs. switch-its vs. ?
Organization: /local/lib/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:49:25 GMT


i'm interested in buying some "inline skates" (i think
that's what the generic name for them is), and i'm
thinking about getting "switch-its"  (sp?).

they're the brand which lets you pop off the rollers
and pop on ice skating blades, so you can use the
same boots for either sport.

does anyone out there have any experience with the
switch-its brand, or with rollerblades, or (best yet)
know the comparative merits and disadvantages of these
two brands--or any others?

if possible please respond via e-mail ... news-
reading facilities here have been flaky lately.
i'll summarize to the net if there's any interest.

thanks,

peter
pdm@cs.uoregon.edu  (after sept 1 use: pdmark@colby.edu)


apologies, by the way, if this is an FAQ.  i'm relatively
new to rec.skate and haven't seen an FAQ file posted.
also, i may possibly be losing access to usenet newsgroups
in about a week, so e-mail is definitely better after
aug 25.  
Xref: sparky rec.food.drink:2632 rec.crafts.brewing:4671
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 18:27:31 CDT
From: alan parman <U30585@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject:    WANTED : mead recipes

I guess the subject says it all.  thanks in advance.  AP
From: BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
Subject: Jello "Jigglers"
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:34:49 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

If anyone has been to Maui (Lahaina) to a restaurant
on the main street (upstairs - called "Alligators" something?);
anyway, they have a drink that will knock your socks off -
Jello "Jigglers".  The drink is flavored (strawberry, cherry,etc.),
spiked with liquer, and jelled.  It is served in a shot glass
and you are supposed to suck it out and swallow it almost whole.
Boy, it gives you an *instant* very warm feeling inside!
stomach.

If you get a chance, try it (a couple of them will knock you
off the stool!).

If you have been there, maybe you could shed some light on this
subject...
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
From: vince@cadence.com (Vince Gibboni)
Subject: Re: Help with Cognacs
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:49:21 GMT

esm@che.utexas.edu (Edward Scott Meadows) writes:
> Can anyone suggest a good cognac for under (say) $60?  I am looking
> for a gift and know very little about cognacs.
>
    Hmmm.....

    I recently bought a bottle (500ml, I think) of Remy Martin XO 
    for $63, and it's, basically, pretty wonderful stuff, and would
    make a great gift for a cognac-oriented person. It might be somewhat
    wasted, however, on a non-(or-semi-)cognac-oriented person, and
    they are some very good cognacs available for much less. The 
    big names are Remy Martin, Martell and Hennessey, all of which are
    pretty easy to find and rather good. There are three main "grades" of
    cognac: VS, VSOP and XO (with XO the best, and the jump from VSOP
    to XO generally, it seems to me, _much_ bigger than the jump from
    VS to VSOP) but there is no official qualification for these grades 
    (as far as I know anyone can label _any_ cognac XO), however they are 
    useful as a relative guide to the quality of different cognacs from 
    the same maker.

        Hope this helps.

        - Vince


--
                                                         vince@gda.cadence.com

    Maybe I'm an idealist, but I like to think there's a very _special_
    place in hell reserved for people with speaker phones.
From: rhsu@src.umd.edu (Richard T. Hsu)
Newsgroups: rec.food.drink
Subject: Re: Alcohol question
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:55:54 GMT
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <neilg.713928569@sfu.ca> neilg@fraser.sfu.ca (Neil K. Guy) writes:
> Just a quick question about alcohol drinking... After many years of
>abstinence I've decided to drink alcohol now and again. Just one
>thing. After a single glass of beer or wine or whatever, my face
>becomes incredibly flushed. Bright red. Other than that I feel fairly
>normal, so this is kind of irritating.

I, too suffer from the embarrassing case of "red-face"...my friends have some
construction paper with differing hues of red which they hold up to my face at
parties which they call the "Rich-o-meter"...you can guess why.

As I understand, there are two enzymes that perform the breakup of alcohol. The
first is alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) which converts alcohol into acetylaldehyde,
a toxin. The second is aldehyde dehydrogenase (ALDH) which converts aldehydes 
into esters, which are non-toxic. Some races, notably American Indians and
Eastern Asians, either have a lesser amount of ALDH in their system than their
caucasian counterparts, or the ALDH in their systems works more slowly, the 
result of which is they turn red, have low tolerances, become violently ill
very often, or any combination of the above.

> Does anyone know if this is something that goes away with time? Is my
>body not capable of dealing with the alcohol? Or what? This is
>probably a dumb question, but I'm sort of curious...

This condition is genetic. By the way, I don't claim any knowledge of clincal
biology or medicine--what I have I read off the net. My suspicion, based
on my high school knowledge of bio, is that since alcohol in the bloodstream
dilates blood vessels (so I understand, again), THIS is why you actually turn
red--because the blood vessels closest to the skin are dilated. I offer that for
a little while, I had the remainder of a scar on my knee which darkened when I 
was drunk.

One question I have is this: does anyone know your individual tolerance affects
the amount of ADH and ALDH you have? After going through college, I found that
it took more alcohol to get me drunk, and a little more to get me red, but on
heavy drinking nights, I always became a shade usually reserved for beets and
turnips.

> - Neil K. (n_k_guy@sfu.ca)

Hope this helps.
Anyone out there with REAL medical knowledge, please feel free to enlighten me.

Rich