From: heinlein@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The tired one)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Re: top 10 list, well rather top 3 list...(Was: Re: :tcejbuSeltiT)
Date: 12 Sep 1992 14:13:27 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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duelge@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jason Duelge) writes:

>In article <18s7hjINN44l@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> heinlein@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The tired one) writes:
>>
>>how come nowadays, 90% of people that are being attacked and obviously
>>at a disadvantage, fold up without a fight?
>>
>>I've never understood that one, because i've ALWAYS played to survive,
>>and it seems to me an awful waste of time to go down with a wimper.
>>
>>Mike

>Well then, why did you fold up in the Alaska Desert empire way back when
>i rolled over you?
>Your last post, mostly directed at me (email?) didn't make too much sense
>to me ... as i tend to avoid attacking 'fodder' when possible, and ...
>hell, i've already forgotten your post.

>Anyway, my second point ... is a question :
>What is more annoying.  This silly top ten/fifteen/etc lists, or the occasional
>'remember washington 1989' posts...
>Hell, i don't remember games i played 3 months ago.  You guys remember
>games played almost 3 years ago?  Don't you have anything else to use
>your valuable memory capacity for?

>Jason -- Temekula
>(retired and loving it ... flaming away)

Jason, i've said it before, I'll say it again:  the ignorance of your
postings never fail to amuse me.  :)

please note the :)'s in my posts... i tend not to take anything anyone
says seriously, especially those who take themselves too seriously. :)

I post on the network for the same reason that most others do: to
listen to what others have to say, and to enjoy the time doing it.
For someone retired from empire, you're awfully loud. :)

As for my earlier post, it was not directed at you per se.  If you
took it to heart, fine by me, but i've seen scores (including myself
once upon a time before Tom Tedrick blasted my 'Way Cool' country to
bits in short order) of people who think that they are really good,
because 1) they beat someone good once, or 2) they beat up on a whole
LOT of crappy people.

Like I said before (in that part of the post directed to you Jason ;)
You're an excellent economist.  Your methods of fighting IMHO, do not
deserve the truly awe inspiring gasps of both pain and pleasure I
receive when the likes of Lersing or Tedrick decide that the game
really has gone on long enough.  

Just to put things in perspective (which is, of course, all relative),
I find myself to be pretty damn good militarily, but 99% of the time,
I lack the patience/ability to keep the economy going strong during
the middle of an all-out war.  

As for that Alaska game, you had me trashed from the start.  Congrats
on the win, but it's never been that big a deal for me to lose either.

Now, if you want to talk about me screwing up in a royal way, we can
both reminisce to the first time we met on empire.  I certainly don't
consider myself to be one of those that hasn't fucked up in a major
way before, :), because I have.

However, the entire point of my first post was this:

It doesn't really matter how many Soxlands you kill, it still isn't
enough of a challenge to be able to call yourself the best.  It's like
hitting 75 homers in the minor leagues... you have everyone's
attention when you come up to bat, but you just aren't a Reggie
Jackson yet.

nuff said, i'll get down off my soapbox now. :)

btw Jason: just a tease to get you back into the ring again ;), but I
decided to go back to school last wednesday, and will again be
spending my time doing the empire thing again.  However, I, like you,
have a wife (who made that post about wives eh, it sure is true), and
will only be able to play either an evening game, or a game with a
single update a day.  I'd really like to see what we can do together
against the world, but I suppose both our egos are a bit big for that
one eh? :)

-- 
Gee, I finally made a .sig file. Isn't it grand?
Chris Green is way cool. :)   My idols are camels.  OH! You wanted sarcasm,
well, just go read my .plan then. :)  - Mike Monthey heinlein@matt