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From: kboss35@ursa.calvin.edu (Karen Boss)
Subject: Re: Picard/Riker '96 (was Re: Wesley Crusher is returning???)
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:21:05 GMT

dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay) writes:

>ivy@camelot.bradley.edu (Ivelisse Atiles) writes:

>> In <1992Dec6.064947.11676@ncsu.edu> stdeprie@eos.ncsu.edu (SHAWN TEMPLE DEPRI
>> 
>> 
>> >In article <gp2001-061292013412@m248-101.bgsu.edu>, gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Gr
>> >|> Path: taco!rock!stanford.edu!agate!ames!olivea!uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!m
>> >|> From: gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Greg Pallenik)
>> >|> Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
>> >|> Subject: Picard/Riker '96 (was Re: Wesley Crusher is returning???)
>> >|> Message-ID: <gp2001-061292013412@m248-101.bgsu.edu>
>> >|> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 92 01:33:13 EST
>> >|> References: <abick.723354676@cunews> <1992Dec3.051446.3489@news.weeg.uiow
>> >|> Sender: usenet@andy.bgsu.edu (USENET)
>> >|> Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
>> >|> Organization: BGSU
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>> >|> 
>> >|> In article <1992Dec3.051446.3489@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>,
>> >|> rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (R Andrew Hayden) wrote:
>> >|> 
>> >|> > >>>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>> >|> > >>         Picard / Riker '96                                          
>> >|> > >>         Let's take this country where none have gone before         
>> >|> 
>> >|> Picard / Riker '96
>> >|> Make it so!
>> >|> 
>> >|> Can anyone else come up with some solgans?
>> >|> 
>> >|> Greg
>> >|> 
>> 
>> >Leading America into the future
>> 
>> Picard & Riker in '96: Engage!!
>> 
>> Picard & Riker in '96: Let's take the US to the final frontier
>> --
>> -+* Ivelisse Atiles Lopez        -+*+-        ivy@camelot.bradley.edu *+-
>> -+* The Banzai Institute         -+*+-  No matter where you go, there you are
>>          "When I was young I was in love... in love wih everything. 
>>                    Now there's only you."  -Thomas Dolby

>Well since both Spock and Picard are ineligable for the position, I
>thought up this slogan

>Kirk/Riker '96. Leadership for two generations

>Dascoser

/Vote for the bald guy!
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From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Chain of Command in Champaign-Urbana (no spoilers)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:47:04 GMT

brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>that the schedule has changed.

>Some of the blame for not knowing has to also be placed on your shoulders.
>Why, because ever since the 5th, the net has had plenty of postings indicating
>that something was up.  I verified the schedule change on the 7th and posted
>the new schedule then.  Ever since then, there have been plenty of messages
>regarding this change posted right here.

  You obviously dont know Fox 55/27 very well :)  this is the station that
has screwed up every single season premiere with out fail in some way, though
Season 5's screwup was only with sound...the episode did show.

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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: DS9 in the Bay Area
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:32:43 GMT



Okay, now I'm really confused -- maybe I missed a couple of posts.

Could someone please tell me in very small words exactly when DS9 premieres
in the Bay Area and what its regular time slot will be?



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From: amc@wucs1.wustl.edu (Adam Costello)
Subject: When is/was Chain of Command I?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:47:14 GMT

I am totally confused now.  I thought for sure that some list said
that the episodes were going to go Realm of Fear, another re-run,
and then Chain of Command I.  I saw Realm of Fear on Saturday,
5 Dec.  I didn't watch on Saturday, 12 Dec.  I expected to see
CoC I on Saturday, 19 Dec.  Now I read that CoC II will air on
Saturday, 19 Dec.  What's the deal?  Did I miss CoC I, or does
"air" mean something other than "broadcast to the general
populace on regular TV"?

Sorry if this is something everyone should know, but I only
subscribed to this newsgroup a few days ago.

Also, any of you who are in the Milwaukee area: I am going to arrive
in Milwaukee on Saturday, 19 Dec early in the afternoon.  On what
channel and at what time is TNG shown?

Thanks,
AMC
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From: jj6707@meibm7.cen.uiuc.edu (John E Jablonski)
Subject: Re: AIDS and Klingons
Organization: CCSO College of Engineering Workstations
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:40:50 GMT

In article <9212101033.49@rgm.com>, cnk@rgm.com (Claims No Knowledge) writes:
|> jj6707@meibm31.cen.uiuc.edu (John E Jablonski) writes:
|> >How about not!!!
|> >   Keep ST in the entertainment arena, and keep the damn politics out of it!
|> >Nothing ruins a good movie/show more that bringing politics into it!
|> 
|> I hardly consider a deadly disease politics.  Just because it has been a very
|> public issue does not mean that it is.  It IS a very serious concern for many 
|> people.
|> 
|> Anyway, I wouldn't mind AIDS being addressed on one episode, but not in the
|> storyline mentioned.  I would rather see Beverly talking to someone regarding
|> some new deadly disease and offhandedly remark how AIDS was taken care of, and 
|> relate it to the plot somehow.

Well of cours AIDS itself isn't a political issue, but as presented
in that scenario, it is ENTIRELY political.-->The thing where healthy Klingons
are chasing down and killing any Klingons with AIDS.   No analogy exists
between life and that plot as presented.  That's my problem with it.
 
Dittos all!
   John

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From: jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau)
Subject: Re: How do you start a flame war? Glad you asked ...
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:19:08 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

plutnj@aix.rpi.edu (James Matthew Plutnicki) writes:

>jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau) writes:

>>>The top ten things ways to start a flame war on rec.arts.startrek.current:

>>[...]

>>> 1.  Gene who?

>>Shouldn't this be "Jean who?"

>Check the credits dude, Gene is the correct spelling, always has been, 
>always will be...

>I hate to flame but where have you been???

Well, James, I've been right here.  I guess you missed the thread "Sad
News" in which someone announced that "Jean Rodanberry" had died.  But
even if you hadn't, I was responding to a post about ways to start a
flame war.

Think, man!  Misspelling his name would start a flame.  Like yours.

Uh, oh.  It just occurred to me that *you're joking, too*.

:-) :-)
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From: ghelf@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;RD48)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Who is Ronny Cox?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:35:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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>|> What part did Ronny Cox play in Robocop, Total Recall, etc?
>

He was also the Good Guy (really Good Guy) dad in a series called
"Apple's Way" back in the 70s or so.  Hated it at the time.
A

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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Dr. Crusher wherabouts - Season II
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:40:57 GMT


	There were three main reasons that Bev Crusher was
dumped:

1.) She was a damper on Picard.  He couldn't have any little
love trysts if she were around.

2.) She was a damper on Wesley.  He couldn't develop into
anything approaching an adult figure if his "mommy" was around.

3.) Probably most importantly, they wanted a character that
provided intra-ship conflict, which still doesn't happen much
these days.

	So they dumped Bev and got Pulaski.  They wanted the
Pulaski-Data relationship to be similar to the McCoy-Spock
relationship, in terms of the constant bickering.  One problem:
Data doesn't bicker.  The fans disliked her because they
thought she was "picking" on Data.  But the main reason Pulaski
was kicked off was because another cast member (who will remain
nameless) used his/her clout to get her fired.  They realized
that it would be better to bring Crusher back than go with a
third doctor, so that's what they did.
						-Quinn
From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: AIDS and Klingons
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:10:07 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

Robert J. Granvin writes: 
>On the AIDS issue, I guess I have to ask: "Why?"
>It seems likely that AIDS will be a epidemic relegated to history in the
>same way we treat the Bubonic Plague and Polio(*).
>
>(*) Yes - I realize there are still the occasional cases, but for all
>practical purposes they are wiped out, and with continued improvements
>in medical knowledge, they will be - as very likely will be AIDS before
>several hundred years pass...

Then why haven't found a cure for the common cold yet?  AIDS is a virus.
There are no known *cures* for any virus.  TB was also on the way out, now
it is making a comeback.  The point is that this epidemic may rage for 
decades, vanish, and then stage a comeback.  Should it be on TNG? No.
Why not?  Simply because TNG paints a rosey picture of the future where
there is no poverty, few if any diseases, and where actions have no 
consequences ( you can drink all the synthahol you want and not have a 
hangover ).  TNG presents an unrealistic view of the future so why 
should it deal with a realistic problem?  

fpa
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Chain of Command in Champaign-Urbana (no spoilers)
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:25:05 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <ternent.18@oima2.oim.uiuc.edu> ternent@oima2.oim.uiuc.edu (John Ternent) writes:
<Good old Fox 55/27 WRSP/WCCU (Springfield/Urbana) strikes again.  All last 
<evening they showed the promos for Relics.  Then, when "Willow" was over (at 
<9:30), the voice-over was talking about the 75-year-old wreck and the person 
<trapped in the transporter beam... "Coming up next, on Star Trek: The Next 
<Generation." I _almost_ left to run some errands, but by the time I was 
<ready to leave, they showed the intro to the show... and it was "Chain of 
<Command!"  Way to go, Fox! Possible explanations? Maybe "Chain" surprised 
<them or something.. "Hey! Where did _this_ show come from?"

According to the date of the posting, which was the 15th, I can assume you
mean that they aired the program on the 14th.

Someone in traffic actually screwed up.  They've know since December 4th
that the schedule has changed.

Some of the blame for not knowing has to also be placed on your shoulders.
Why, because ever since the 5th, the net has had plenty of postings indicating
that something was up.  I verified the schedule change on the 7th and posted
the new schedule then.  Ever since then, there have been plenty of messages
regarding this change posted right here.

In the end you have no one to blame but yourself for not knowing


:-)  (if necessary)
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From: bwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com (Bev Woolf - Sysop)
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Subject: Chain of Command--Part 1  Possible Spoilers
Date: 20 Dec 92 00:32:54 GMT
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        I just saw this and would like to add my opinion.  I have read that
some people didn't like Jellico.  I didn't find anything wrong with him.  I
felt that he was doing what was expected of him in taking over the
Enterprise during a difficult time.  He had things that he needed to have
done to prepare the Enterprise for it's encounter with the Cardassians.  As
a commanding officer, he has every right to expect them to be done. 
Everything he asked for could have been accomplished in the time limits
set.  
        I also don't think that he was the one to set Picard up.  If some
are going by the communication between him and the Admiral.  The 'friends'
that they were discussing could just as well as been Picard & Company.  In
fact, that's the impression I got when I heard it.
        This is all just my opinion.  BTW, I'm sorry, but I like Troi. ;)


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Is a Yeoman the Captain's babe then...?
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: Troi is capable of wearing a uniform (SPOILERS)
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:36:02 GMT

Why does it matter whether she's a military crew member or a  
non-military crew member?  She a crew member nonetheless and has the  
rank of Lt. Commander just like Data and La Forge, to name a couple.   
She can and has taken control of the ship before and she can order  
other people on the ship around like any other officer with rank higher  
than those being ordered.

I still think that there's no good reason for her not to be wearing a  
uniform like the other crew members, Lt. Commanders and bridge  
personnel do.  I say keep her out of that degrading body suit and  
concentrate on making her a better Lt. Commander; one who knows some  
basic functions of the ship (to start with; when she was in control of  
the ship she knew next to nothing).
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From: WCHE@vm.poly.edu
Subject: Re: URGENT - Special DS9 promotional feed
Organization: Polytechnic University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:06:51 EST

In article <1992Dec8.223324.17941@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:
 
>gcs4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gregory Carl Seibert) writes:
>
>>>                               *** SATELLITE FEED ALERT ***
>>>                *** "STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE" ELECTRONIC PRESS KIT ***
>>>
 
    What's a "Electronic Press Kit?"
 
>
>>    If someone that is going to tape this would bne willing to tape it for me
>>    too I'd greatly appreciate it.  I could send you a tape to copy it onto,
>>    or just mail you a check for the tape if you have any extra blanks lying
>>    around.  Thanks.
>>                                            G.C.
>
>Ditto this request.  Please email if you can do this.
>
 
   I don't want a copy, but anybody know when will ST:DSN be air in
NYC?   I've seen a commercial saying that it'll be sometime in January,
but I'd like to know the date.  (I don't read TV Guide, I just flip
channels until I see something I like.)       :)
Thanx.
 
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From:  (William Johnson)
Subject: 3-4 shifts
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 10:53:06 EST
Organization: The University of Michigan
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current

Well in this lovely thing we call a flame war, I just thought that I would
add my two cents.  The person who brought up the stupidity of the shift
from
3-4 shifts was very correct.  Did one ever see in TOS anyone getting up in
the
middle of battle or a tense situation saying "My shift is over, time to
punch
out"  I didn't think so.  So it seems that the person's argument makes
sense,
whether or not Starfleet is a military organization.  Remember, this non-
military organization has sent a 50+ year old man, and a 40+ doctor with
little or no mission experience to a far off world where there is little or
no help for them.  Funny I remember that the captain go on away teams where
there was little or no risk.  Oh well, maybe Starfleet should become
military,
then maybe there would be a sudden dose of logic.
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Chain of Command 1: Irony abounds (Spoilers)
Organization: Cleveland State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:47:17 GMT

Spoilers to _Chain of Command Part I_





























This is enough, I trust.

did anyone else, other than myself, find the episode not only very
entertaining, but completely ironic?  Let me elaborate, please.

My thesis is that the Cardassians are playing the admirals of the
Federation like a bunch of lutes.  Consider, that Admiral Kennely (?) from
_Ensign Ro_ was totally fooled by the Cardassian Ambassador, who other
than a great case of some Cardassian virus, also almost got the Federation
to eschew the Prime Directive and start a war, on behalf of the
Cardassians, by blaming the Bajorans for Cardassian military activities.
If it were not for the thoughtfulness of Captain Picard, the Cardassians
would have been completely successful.  Picard prevented this, only
because he thinks before he acts.  At times he seems quite absurd, in
battle situations, for example, where he waits too long before taking
military action himself.  However, if I wanted a thoughtful person to
negotiate, then Picard would be my first choice.

If Vice Admiral Netschev (sp?) would only have thought about it for a
while she would have been certain that the Cardassians were bluffing--they
are too far behind in technology to really improve so much, so quickly.
The Federation should have asked an acting Ensign, or something, to see
past the obvious subterfuge from the Cardassians.

It is also strange to see Picard as a scientist, though he is, at least,
an amateur archaeologist, as viewers know from the second last Q episode
with Vasch.

Captain Jellico is certainly entertaining.  No doubt he is better in
battle than Picard, who does not fare well against rowboats in a battle.
However, it is his refusal to compromise and reason about the
possibilities which makes him an easy mark.  

Why places the lab so close tothe Federation border?  Is it to draw out
the Federation, or is it because the Cardassians must be as close as
possible to deliver the weapon?  Are not both possibilities obvious?

So what happens now?  What will Worf do?  Can he do anything?  he always
gets clobbered, so maybe Beverly will save the day.  And will Riker
assassinate Jellico?  And will Stewart finally win the acting acclaim he
so deserves?

I hope so,
Cowboy






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From: 00rrchorzemp@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: How do you start a flame war? Glad you asked ...
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:34:30 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

(stuff deleted)
>>>> 1.  Gene who?
>>>
>>>Shouldn't this be "Jean who?"
> 
>>Check the credits dude, Gene  is the correct spelling, always has been, 
>>always will be...
> 
>>I hate to flame but where have you been???
> 
> Where have *you* been, James?  You must have missed the thread about a
> jerk who blasphemed our Gene by spellin his name "Jean Rodanbary" (or
> some equally incorrect way) in order to bait us.  Craig just forgot
> the requisite :-) at the end of his "Jean who?" question.

Perhaps he meant "Jean-luc Picard"????


If you _REALLY_ want to start a flame war, just say that Dr.Who is the most
superior Science Fiction show ever made....  IMHO, it is, but you trekkers can
have your own opinions...   ;^)

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From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Subject: S.O.S.: Chain of Command, Part I (1)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:51:50 GMT


Hello, again!

Well, I'm back from the first part of winter hiatus.  Two new episodes
ahead (one new story).  If this first posting is any indication, looks
like this could be a winner.  And since these episodes are the lead-in
to DSN, maybe that's a really good sign of things to come.

Now, since I'm wasting precious long distance connect time here, on
with the numbers!
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Josh Laff           7.0 / 10.0      7.0         * * * * * * * 
  Anton Sanderfoot    7.0 / 10.0      7.0         * * * * * * * 
  Jeff Rupley         8.0 / 10.0      8.0         * * * * * * * * 
  Nora Peal           9.7 / 10.0      9.7         * * * * * * * * * X
  Rob Knauerhase      9.9 / 10.0      9.9         * * * * * * * * * *
=======================================================================
  Average                             8.3         * * * * * * * * >
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Partial point key:
  [,] 0.1-0.2   [>] 0.3-0.4   [Y] 0.5-0.6   [X] 0.7-0.8   [*] 0.9-1.0 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Unless you're new to the S.O.S., you can hit `n' now...



WHAT IS IT?
  The S.O.S. (Spoiler-Free Opinion Summary) is a twice-weekly posting
  made by yours truly.  The first posting is made Thursday and is
  intended to give those people who don't see the episode until later
  in the week a hint as to the quality of episode to expect.  The
  second posting is made Sunday and gives the final ratings for the
  entire week as a summary of the opinions of the entire viewing
  constituency (or at least those who participate :-)

HOW DO I JOIN IN?
  Becoming a part of the S.O.S. is simple.  After you've seen the
  episode, send me email at `jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu'.
  Include a simple rating on a numeric scale (no letter grades --
  too much controversy).  Please do NOT include any spoiler
  information.  I usually don't get to see the episodes until 11am
  Sunday, and I like to go in fresh.

This concludes this installment of the S.O.S.  Join us next posting
for more exciting adventures...

Joe
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