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From: mike@pacsoft.com (Mike Stefanik)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Labels
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:25:30 GMT
Organization: Pacific Software Group, Riverside, CA

In an article, dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:
>If someone just put a staple in the middle of the label, it would
>probably go through the diskette itself, making it hard to turn :-) [...]

All of this makes me think of something a friend of mine who used to be
in the field service biz told me: A customer was having a problem with
their floppy drive ... it seems that it couldn't read or write any floppies
that she used. A tech was sent out and tested the drive.  Everything was
fine, but he replaced the drive anyway. A few days later, she called again
saying that this drive didn't work either. Once more, a field tech checked
the drive and everything was fine (and they replaced it one more time).
Yes, a day later she called again, complaining that these techs obviously
didn't know what they were doing because the floppy drive just did not
work. Yet another field tech was sent out to replace the drive. After it was
installed, he asked her to try the drive (instead of testing it himself).
Commenting that she wanted to label the floppy before using it, she produced
a label, put it on the disk and inserted the disk in her typewriter ...

-- 
Mike Stefanik  mike@pacsoft.com  ...!uunet!pacsoft!mike  (714) 681-2623
Pacific Software Group, Riverside, CA
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: yar@cs.su.oz.au (Ray Loyzaga)
Subject: Re: XterminalServer ratio wanted
Reply-To: yar@cluster.cs.su.oz (Ray Loyzaga)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:58:42 GMT

In article <1ad2rfINNfdc@male.EBay.Sun.COM> nikita@cherokee.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>
>	xterminals have a major impact on the net and eat up cpu time like mad!
>35 xterms on a 4/490 with 128Mb memory and 2X's swap could be brought to its
>knees when I was working at XXXXX  (network co.) last year. We added another 64Mb memory and additional swap and still could hang it completely if 3-4 user were reading
>large enough mail files.  Xterms still need some serious work before I'd use
>them in a major way.
>
>

Gosh we routinely run 30 Xterms on a Mips 3230 with 104Mb of memory
and have typical load averages of <1. I think you must be getting
confused with the type of work being conducted rather than any supposed
X-term loading. From my numbers the typical X-term was generating
negligible network traffic (when compared to the NFS traffic of a
workstation), so network bandwidth was not the problem, this only
leaves I/O and cpu power on the 4/490. I can believe that it is running
out of CPU cycles for 35 simultaneous users, if they are doing pretty
solid work, I can also believe that it runs out of I/O throughput
if the jobs are that way inclined, but I seriously doubt that this
has anything to do with Xterms. The stats that we got a few years
back put the Xterm net load somewhere in the noise level, unless
interactive games/graphics is being done.
For net traffic
	Xterm < dataless w/s << diskless w/s

They do have a serious impact on the memory usage of the CPU server,
so buy a nice server ... 
You say 3 or 4 users reading large mail files hang a 4/490, well
I can see how an Xterm can influence that :-) It sounds like you should
be looking elsewhere for the problem. We have been running ~200 xterms
with none of these problems for 3 years, we don't swap and I get curious
when the load average hits 2-3 ... of course we do run a fair share
scheduler which tends to mitigate against single people dominating
the CPU with lots of processes, maybe someday Sun might add something
like this to their kernels.
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: temparary superuser
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:09:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Weird!! (helho@ecst.csuchico.edu) wrote:
:   I am not a sys sdmin in my school. I just wanna learn more about Unix
:   . My question is how to become a root in the shell? My step is :

Why don't you try alt.hackers?  They go in for this sort of stuff.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: temparary superuser
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:33:20 GMT

vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau) writes:

>In article <1992Sep28.204606.9071@ecst.csuchico.edu>, helho@ecst.csuchico.edu (Weird!!) writes:

>-   I am not a sys sdmin in my school. I just wanna learn more about Unix
>.....
>-    Is there any way I could do such that I can become a root?

>The easiest way is to go into your garden (or a public park), bury yourself,
>and wait for enough rainfall. Sooner or later you will become a root. If time 
>is of the essence, you may want to add triffid seeds to the earth above you, 
>but I do not know enough of the climate in your area, so I cannot recommend a 
>particular variety.

>Hope this helps                              Thomas

Marvelous  ... But am I reading comp.unix.humor? ...

Or get a good password cracker ...

S a m u e l

Xref: sparky comp.unix.admin:5369 alt.folklore.urban:24778
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Labels
From: crash@crash.amigans.gen.nz (ROBIN HALLIGAN)
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:53:37 PST
Organization: No organisation at all
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

This makes one wonder about disk holders i have seen and once sold
thay were for 5.25 inch disks and in the form of a plastic roller
in a slot the disk was pushed up between the roller and the holder
and gravity the thing was the box allways showed the disk holder stuck 
to the sid of the moniter about were the degousing (SP?) coil is.
isint this the thing you DO NOT DO!!.
T.T.F.N 
--
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Amigans Public Access UUCP Node Wanganui New Zealand
            FROM ANON
                     A COMPUTER TO PRINT OUT A FACT
                     WILL DIVIDE MULTIPLY AND SUBTRACT
                     BUT THIS OUTPUT CAN BE
                     LITTLE MORE THAN DEBRIS
                     IF THE INPUT IS LESS THAN EXACT
                                                     -GIGO
We apologize for the inconvenience Normal .sig Will resumed
as soon as we are certain what is normal anyway
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: hoogs@count.alc.com (Tim Hoogasian, Sys Admin)
Subject: Feasible??  DOS-PC  SCSI CD-ROM players hanging off Sparcstations?
Reply-To: hoogs@count.alc.com
Organization: Ascent Logic Corporation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:19:55 GMT


Hi everybody,


Does anyone know if it is possible (actually, has it been done) to use a
CD-ROM player that has been built originally for the DOS-PC market as a
Sun CD player?  (I realize this probably is a silly question to ask.)

The reason I ask is that (as usual) we have too few CD player resources to
go around, but to buy the necessary numbers from Sun is rather more than
we can afford (ahem).  I noticed an ad in an electronics catalog, selling
CD-ROM players and CD's for the PC market at ridiculously low prices.  It
is a reputable company, and so were the products for sale.  So, "Hmmm..."
says me, "if there's a device driver available (somewhere), then mightn't
it only involve a bit of cable-jockeying to hang these drives off the
Sparcstations as CD players that could read the Sun CD's?"

I'm willing to take a bit of heat for a "silly" question, if indeed it is.
But if there's a good reason, other than just that nobody's ever written a
Unix *software* driver for one of these players, I'd like to know what it is?
And if it *is* feasible to do such a thing, how might I go about attempting
it (other than writing a driver myself, which I've not the coding skills to 
manage effectively)?

Thanks,

Tim

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: temparary superuser
Reply-To: cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 09:57:28 BST

In article <1992Sep28.204606.9071@ecst.csuchico.edu>, helho@ecst.csuchico.edu (Weird!!) writes:

-   I am not a sys sdmin in my school. I just wanna learn more about Unix
.....
-    Is there any way I could do such that I can become a root?

The easiest way is to go into your garden (or a public park), bury yourself,
and wait for enough rainfall. Sooner or later you will become a root. If time 
is of the essence, you may want to add triffid seeds to the earth above you, 
but I do not know enough of the climate in your area, so I cannot recommend a 
particular variety.

Hope this helps                              Thomas

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: mulvey@world.std.com (Richard K Mulvey)
Subject: AT&T 3b1 software needed
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:56:32 GMT


Hello!

   I just picked up an ancient AT&T 3B1 at a garage sale.  It has the basic
software loaded, but is lacking the Development Set ( Which includes the
C compiler, lex, etc. )  I would *greatly* appreciate it if anyone could
point me to a source for the software, even if it means paying you to
unload some of your dusty 3B1 floppies on me.  :-)

mulvey@world.std.com


-- 
Rich Mulvey    mulvey@world.std.com       "A thing of beauty is a joy forever:
 {&&, ||}      73476.1142@compuserve.com   its loveliness increases; it will
Katy Thornton  rm3111@brock1p.bitnet       never pass into nothingness..."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: trevord@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: temparary superuser
Summary: you betcha
Organization: Peanuts
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:52:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.204606.9071@ecst.csuchico.edu> helho@ecst.csuchico.edu (Weird!!) writes:
>Hi system administrators!
>
>  I am not a sys sdmin in my school. I just wanna learn more about Unix
>  . My question is how to become a root in the shell? My step is :
>   cp /bin/sh  ~myaccount
>   chmod 4777 sh 
>   chown root sh
>   sh
>
>   But I know it doesn't work because when I execute chown , user id
>   will automatically reset. Is there any way I could do such that I
>   can become a root?
>   Thanx for your attention!!    and sorry for my english :(
>
>	                                       
>						 Unix novice
>						 Ken
	Hmm. Must be your OS. This works just fine for me.
	'course I'm root when i try it :)

	I'd try logging in as root from the Login: prompt and
	hope your sysadmin was nice and had <enter> as the
	password.  

	Cheers.

-- 
* Trevor Dewey                                                                *
* System Administrator	 			         	 	      * 
* Holland America Lines                             uupsi4!polari!trevord     * 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.sys.att
From: cmilono@netcom.com (Carlo Milono)
Subject: Re: Postscript printer question
Organization: Netcom - Somewhere in the S.F. Bay Area
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:27:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep21.185057.4923@utagraph.uta.edu> measures@cse.uta.edu (Mark Measures) writes:
>I'm trying to get a postscript printer on my StarServer E to work
>properly.  I'm running AT&T Unix SVR4.2.  I've configured the
>printer to be type "postscript," but when I print a file, it
>appears that something is not quite right with the prologue code.
>I get the following:
>
>% %!PS-Adobe-
>             % %%DocumentFont:
>                              % %%BoundingBox: (atend)
>                                                      % %%EndComments
>                                                                     /getcnt
>                                                                            {
>
>and then I get a page break and the regular lp header begins.  After that,
>I get more postscript code.
>
>I would truly appreciate some help with this problem.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Mark Measures
>measures@cse.uta.edu
>
>

There are several possibilities:  the lp setup from sysadm will allow you
to declare the input as 'simple', or as some other input.  If you are
printing PostScript files on a PS printer, you don't want any fiddling with
the code or else you have a printout of your PostScript file in code, rather
than being explicitly executed.
  
Since you have line-feeds without carriage-returns, I would look at your
interface file for the stty commands.  It may help to insert a Control-D
at the beginning and at the end of the script so that the printer knows
about the EOF.  If you want plain text to be printed on a PS printer, then
you want to filter, else keep it simple-in and simple-out and the in is PS
and the out is PS-executed...and...skip the banner page.

I just gave you the simplified version, If I have time, I can snoop at the
office and remember just what I did a couple of years ago to accomplish
the goal.  For some users/applications, I have two interface scripts pointing
to the same printer.
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From: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: suid OpenLook programs
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:07:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computing Center, Mississippi State University

( you should hit return at the end of every line of your messages.  If
you don't they can be quite frustrating to reed in some interfaces.  I've
reformatted here).

In article <1992Oct2.232312.640@BofA.com> jeff@BofA.COM (Jeff Tate) says:
: If I make a program (such as snm) suid root and then run it
: under OW3 on SunOS 4.1.2, I get libxview.so.0 not found errors, even
: though ~root/.cshrc defines LD_LIBRARY_PATH correctly.  All is well if
: I su - in a shelltool and then run the program non-suid, but it fails
: as suid root even if I am root!

This behavior is documented somewhere in the ld.so manual page.  When
running setuid or setgid programs the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is ignored.  This
variable allows you to specify what libraries will linked in when a
program runs.  Since you could write your own libraries and "tell" the
executable to use it honoring LD_LIBRARY_PATH would be a clear security
hole in the case of setuid/setgid programs.

If a setuid/setgid program needs to access libraries outside of the default
library path then they should be specified with the -L flag at compile time.
--
Frank Peters  -  UNIX Systems Programmer  -  Mississippi State University
Internet: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu  -  Phone: (601)325-7030  -  FAX: (601)325-8921
From: marie@Redwood.XAIT.Xerox.COM (Marie Reale)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: 4mm WangDAT Stacker
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:48:38 GMT
Reply-To: marie@Redwood.XAIT.Xerox.COM (Marie Reale)
Organization: Xerox Advanced Information Technology, Cambridge, MA

We are running SunOs 4.1.2 and are having trouble with our 4mm WangDAT
stacker. We are also running a software product called Networker for
automatic backups.  It seems that the os does not recognize the drive
and assumes it to be .25 cartridge.  Also, somehow the os thinks it
has reached the end of tape when it has not and Networker will eject
the tape and remount a new one.  I know that Sun does not support this 
yet but is there any scsi target device driver infomation available for 
this tape drive or any 4mm tape drive that would help running under
4.1.2.?

Any help is very much appreciated.

-- 
Marie Reale 
XAIT, Cambridge MA  02142
marie@xait.xerox.com (617)499-4408
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705)
Subject: Re: Xterminal-Server ratio wanted
Organization: New Jersey Re-Education Facility for the Differently Clued
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:26:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.admin
	<1992Sep18.145309.4505@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> <4558@tivoli.UUCP>

In article <4558@tivoli.UUCP> dinah@rockytop.tivoli.com (Dinah McNutt {sysadmazon}) writes:
   |> > Cy Foughty (cy@solbourne.com) wrote:
   |> >> 4. Xterminals require SYMMETRIC MULTIPROCESSOR SERVERS for good
   |> >>    response time.
   |> Not in my experience.

   It's been my experience that with a symmetric multiprocessor
   server, you can replace workstations with X-terminals and folks will
   be happy. This was in a development environment.

Are you saying that there's some inherent advantage toward symmetric multiprocessing,
or are you really saying that Xterminals require BIG FAST SERVERS,
preferably without annoyingly small numbers of hardware contexts,
and that symmetric multiprocessors are a good way to buy lots of MIPS?
--
				Pray for peace;      Bill
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,alt.folklore.urban
From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Labels
In-reply-to: dwolff@cozy.Prime.COM's message of Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:04:49 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University
	<TRIF.92Sep30151618@bike.rad.washington.edu>
	<1992Oct1.194156.26435@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
	<1992Oct2.160449@cozy.Prime.COM>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 12:13:37 EDT

In article <1992Oct2.160449@cozy.Prime.COM> dwolff@cozy.Prime.COM (David Wolff) writes:

>In article <1992Oct1.194156.26435@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jona@iscp.bellcore.com (Jon Alperin) writes:
>> I once (back when I was working in a college computer center) watched in
>> horror as a newbie computer user tried to put a 5 1/4" diskette in a
>> machine by very carefully placing his fingers in the round cutout where
>> the disk showed through, and then inserting the disk in backwards.
>
>Some years ago, a diskette manufacturer (or reseller) had a full-color
>ad with a very pretty model holding a diskette... fingers on the read
>slot.
>
>In the next month's issue, the diskette had been retouched and moved over
>a couple of inches.
>
>I can't provide a citation, but I saw it myself.

Actually it took about four or five months before they fixed it.

Pretty amusing. The model wore a tight t-shirt (with the company logo,
I believe) and obviously the reader (assumed, with good reason, to be
male) was expected to stop and (subconsciously) say, "Wow! Nice
tomatoes!" and then be hooked into reading the ad. Instead your first,
visceral reaction was, "MY GOD, WHAT'S SHE DOING TO THAT DISK???" Kind
of spoiled the effect.

- Rich Holmes
From: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch (Konrad Haedener)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: XterminalServer ratio wanted
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:36:22 GMT
Reply-To: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne

>>> RCPT To:<yar@cluster.cs.su.oz>
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From: haedener (Konrad Haedener)
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To: yar@cluster.cs.su.oz (Ray Loyzaga)
Reply-To: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch
Subject: Re: XterminalServer ratio wanted


In article <1992Oct1.055842.13821@cs.su.oz.au>, you write:

[ text deleted ]

|> with none of these problems for 3 years, we don't swap and I get curious
|> when the load average hits 2-3 ... of course we do run a fair share
|> scheduler which tends to mitigate against single people dominating
|> the CPU with lots of processes, maybe someday Sun might add something
|> like this to their kernels.

I'm interested in what you use as a `fair share scheduler': product,
distributor, platform, experiences ?
Thanks for your information.
-- 
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Institute for Physical Chemistry            FAX:   +41 31 65 44 99
University of Berne
Switzerland                                 haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch
From: makuch@cs.utexas.edu (Michael K. Makuch)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: idle user logoff
Date: 28 Sep 1992 16:25:11 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: muleshoe.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: idle user logoff

Looking for a cron script to implement idle-user-logoff. Please email with
info.
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: temparary superuser
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:29:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.BETSYS.92Oct4002923
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In my shop, you can become a superuser by coming to me and saying "I'd
like to learn Unix system administration. I can volunteer to work xxx 
number of hours a week on a regular schedule for the semester."
  We rather frown on users who try other methods :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: barr@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG)
Subject: Using rarp to configure a bridge
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:25:56 GMT

We have a Cabletron Bridge that needs an IP address for it's SNMP
management. However this particular bridge has no rs232 port for out
of band configuration from a vt100 (emulator). I called Cabletron and
they said the bridge was configurable 2 ways. One is with their software
Lanview which we don't have. The other is to edit the rarp table and
put in the bridge's ethernet address (which we have, it is printed on
the bridge) and the bridge's ip address. Does this sound feasable?
I'm not familiar with rarp. If anyone is please reply to me, as I don't 
follow this group. 
                                 thanks in advance,
				 doug