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From: ae219rh@prism.gatech.EDU (Ray Hixon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Need Honda GB500 Info
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:49:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec30.060119.16385@elektro.cmhnet.org> charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>Can someone pass me some info on the Honda GB500 single that was made
>a few years back?  A friend of mine is lusting after one, and I'd like
>to know if there are any glaring weak points.
>
> Charlie Smith,    DoD #0709

As the official KotA (Keeper of the Ascot), I frown on people encouraging
Honda to keep putting out retro-Thumpers that don't sell due to
stratospheric prices, and then never to bring in real Singles again.

If Suzuki of America is reading this:  GIVE US A 650 GOOSE!  Yes,
give us a Single with reasonable power stock.  Give us a monoshock, and
an upside-down fork.  Give us no plastic, but the choice to put
some on if we feel so inclined.  Put it out in the $3500-$4000 range,
and watch it sell.  Keep it in production for more than two years.
Put out aftermarket racing cams, and pipes for it.  Give us kick-start
only on it, or have electric start as a dealer option.  Is it too
much to ask?  It's been too long since the SRX-6!  Pleeeeeeeeeze!

-------------------------------------------------------------
Ray Hixon
WERA #623 Expert
a Single-minded guy
(I want a new Single....)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Paint
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:15:54 GMT

I am doing a minimum-dollar restoration of my RZ350, which
suffers from some crash-induced plastic damage.  I have
fiberglassed, filled, sanded, and primed all of the damaged
parts, but am having a bit of trouble finding appropriate
paint for the job.  I want to use acrylic lacquer, and
I would rather mask and paint the decal areas than try to
find replacement decals.  Which means I need to find a
particular shade of metallic red, pearl white, and dark
blue.  

None of the paint stores in the area have the exact colors 
stocked, and for some reason, as soon as they see motorcycle 
parts, they decide they are too busy to mix me some colors.

Would anyone have a clue as to where I could get the right
colors?  I like the stock appearance, else I would just 
repaint the whole thing a new color, and besides, some of
the peices only need touch-up; a total repainting would be
WAY more work.)  Yamaha can't sell me the stock paint, and
anyway they wouldn't have the blue, as that's a decal.

I have access to a spray outfit and booth, and have some
experience, so I'm just looking for the paint.

Clues?

Thanks.

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
From: vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:08:27 GMT
Subject: Re: OK, what should I get for the twisties?
Organization: Dances with Hawks
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

> BUT I WANNA HAVE FUN!
> 
> So I'm looking for something along the lines of a cafe racer. I want
> something that will be fun in twisties, that simply wants to lean
> into those corners of its own volition. But I don't want to ride
> with my knees directly below or behind my ass; no crotch rockets.
> I want a goodly amount of low-end power, but an absolute top-end of
> about 120 mph would be more than plenty; probably less would do.
> 
> Lastly, I'd like to get something for around $3000 or less after it
> has been fixed up in tip-top shape (including tires). And I'd prefer
> that to have < 10000 miles on it.
> 
> What does the great DoD/Wretch.Moto crowd recommend? Am I being
> unrealistic? I don't believe in the Bike Fairy, I want to know what
> is reasonable and what isn't reasonable about the above.


  Boy, this has Honda 650GT Hawk written all over it.  Find a used but
  not abused, toss on some ME-1 Comp Ks, poke in some progressive
  springs up front (and a rear shock to tame the back end if you have
  the $$s) and you'll have just what you seek. 

  Cheers,
  Victor "Dances with Scraped Pegs" Johnson
  -----------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:46:56 GMT

In article <1ho2tsINNhhs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ellert@v32.uh.cwru.edu () writes:
>
>In article <ramage.725575588@tesla>, ramage@ece.scarolina.edu (Dan Ramage) writes:
>>                       <stuff deleted>
>unlucky saps, the insurance companies wind up paying ( we do, really! ).
>injury might provide.  A little test: if you were injured in an accident,
>say a truck kicked-up a good-sized rock which caused you to crash, how
>much responsibility would you take?  Would you go after the "deep-pockets"?
>How honest would you be?  On one hand there are the ethical issues, but
>on the other is the perception of what everyone else is getting away with.
>
>Ed

It is little wonder that people try to "go after the deep pockets" of the 
insurance company. Most people pay and pay for insurance and NEVER have to
use (thankfully). If they do have to issue a claim, the insurance company
will hassle them. A personal experience with the insurance was my car was
broken into and the stereo was stolen. I had replaced the original stereo
(Delco-Bose) with a Sony CD player and a Graphic equalizer. I was willing
to pay the deductable to have the same basic set-up back in. They would
not cover it until I could prove that I had a CD and EQ in the car. The
replacement cost was about $750. GM puts a sticker in the glove compartment
stating all the options that originally come with the car. This sticker
gave the option code for the original Delco-Bose stereo. The replacement
cost of the original stereo was $1000. Since they had hassled me for
trying to tell the truth about what was in the car, they had to cover
the more expensive stereo. I tried to be honest to the insurance company
about the losses, but they forced me to go with what I could prove was in 
the car which cost them more money.

I will give them credit for fixing the broken window with very little
hassle. But they seem to forget that when someone is making a claim
it is a very stressfull time in life, because a tragedy has occurred.

Jolly Roger
From: bostrov@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU (Vareck Bostrom)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Whoever dies with the most toys, still dies
Date: 3 Jan 93 04:12:04 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: flop.engr.orst.edu

In article <1993Jan2.153959.18940@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>
>cordially,
>mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
>"Les beaulx bastisseurs nouveaulx de pierres mortes ne sont escriptz
>en mon livre de vie.  Je ne bastis que pierres vives: ce sont hommes."
>
>P.S.  Almost forgot to list a 1974 vintage, 5'7", 115#, nipple-length
>haired, exotic Oriental bimbette bedwarmer.  

'74? Wouldn't that make her kind of, er, YOUNG? You shouldn't argue about
bimbette's... unless you mention what kind of bike she rides...

mine rides a Shadow 800. And shoots a P228.

>
>P.P.S.  What do I win?

Well, I never intended this to be a 'he man pissing contest'...
I've got an old Sun 4/65 but neglected to mention it, but if I really
wanted to impress all of you saps, I would have slung around 
my Grendel P-12 or maybe even my Raven .25... see if you guys can top that.

Win? I'll send you one of my Raven's that went through the laundry.

- bostrov
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:28:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
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jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
: In article <carlp.725070176@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
: >laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
: >
: >>now bidding $26
: >
: >OK, I'll go $27.
: 
: Whats a new bra go for, anyways?
: I haven't bought one lately.


	I would think it would depend upon where it was purchased, and
	the materials and workmanship of the said undergarment...If
	tasteful then (like Victoria's Secret) then I would say close
	to $50 if out of the Harley Catalogue...well that might be
	asking a bit much of our group....

					Ryan...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: winter dead bike
Keywords: hard to start
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:33:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.150941.2301@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> campbejr@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>I have an '81 Suzuki GS550. The bike has been sitting since Oct. in a garage. 
>I took the battery out and have been storing it on a wooden closet shelf; I've
>even charged it, and by all indications it seems to be in good shape.  As to
>the bike I've done nothing else, for its been my intention to ride it if
>whenever the weather turns better.  Well the weather never improved and the
>bike sat.  Last Sunday cold or not I decided to take the bike out and give it a
>try, hopping that such periodic rides would make adding fuel stablizers and
>other winterfication unecessary.  I put the battery in horn, lights etc. all
>worked fine.  I pushed the electric start button, the starter seemed to have
>some real kick, but the bike would not even come close to turning over.  I then
                                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
        Do you mean it spun over but didn't fire?  --------------^

>took the bike to my favorite hill, hopping that as when ever I did have a weak
>battery the engine would kick over.  Well after about a dozen attempts the
>engine did not even whimper.   I tried jumping in first and second which
>usually works great, but now nothing.  So what gives are my spark plugs fouled
>could the fuel have turned to gunk after a couple of months or what?  If anyone
>has any ideas on how to get this Suzuki back on the road let me know, and also
>what should I do differently for storage

Your post isn't clear, but I assume that the starter (and the push/jump) 
did get the engine to turn over, and it just didn't start.  I mean, the
engine's not locked up is it?  The rest of this assumes that it turns free.

Start with basics. 

	Do you have spark?  if not, fix it.
	Do you have fuel at the carb(s)?  if not, fix it.
	Do you smell fuel after the attempts to start it?  if not, why not?
	After trying to start it, are the plugs wet or dry?
	    is the engine flooded?

and so on ...
		
Charlie Smith,    DoD  # 0709
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tire pressures at maximum?
Date: 2 Jan 1993 05:43 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <725926219snz@morgan.demon.co.uk>, tony@morgan.demon.co.uk writes...
]In article <1993Jan1.204902.25383@bnr.ca> space@bcarh2b1 writes:
]>There have been some articles on tire pressures over the past little while,
]>and this has brought a question to mind.
]>
]>Some people seem to advocate running their tires at pressures near the
]>maximum specified by the manufacturer (such pressure usually found on the
]>sidewall).
]>
]>I have also heard of the 10% rule (hot press. == cold press. + 10%).
] 
]This can only be an approximation based on the change of temperature and will 
]depend on the ambient temperature when you inflate them. If we assume that 
]you inflate them at 300 Kelvin then for the pressure to rise 10%, the 
]temperature would have to rise to 330 Kelvin. That's quite hot for a tyre on 
]a road-going 'bike

	Don't forget when applying PV/T~const that the measured tyre pressure
is "gauge"; i.e. you have to add 1 atm (=14.7 psi or 101.3 kPa) to get P.  So
a 10% rise in (P-1 atm) is less than 10% of P.  I'm not sure that 330 K is hot
for a tyre on a road-going bike.  Even my stock X-7 used to ball up the rubber
quite nicely back in '78.  Not on the road, of course... :-)

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
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From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: Citizens' use of deadly force (was Re: Protection for Your Bike)
Date: 03 Jan 93 01:09:31 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: na

In rec.motorcycles roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:
;neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
;: make sure you kill them 'cuz they'll sue the hell out of you if you don't.
;And then hope the dead perps relatives don't sue you.

Good point.  Better kill them too, just in case.

---
chris               '90 FZR 1000          '93 CBR 900rr
'90 Maxim Expres    '87 Frigidaire        '89 Toastmaster
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From: vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Von Welch)
Subject: Hand covers for CBR600F2 ?
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:18:45 GMT

 Has anyone out there had any luck finding some wind protection for their
hands for a GOOF2? I'm looking for some sort of mounted cover than shields
the hand-controls. 

 It seems like the front fairing directs the wind up and right below the
bottom of the handgrips, right on the finger-tips. This makes for some cold
experiences on long-distance rides this time of year.

 I've tried a number of gloves, but short of electric I don't think gloves
will cut it. I'm trying to avoid electric right now just because I don't
want to mess around with the wires. Their my next step if this option
doesn't pan out.

 Please help save me from having to drive my subaru!

Thanks

Von
 
-- 
Von Welch (vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu)	NCSA Networking Development Group
'93 CBR600F2			'78 KZ650		'83 Subaru GL 4WD

- I speak only for myself and those who think exactly like me -
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Them winter woes and blues
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:17:39 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <1992Dec23.142536.45874@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>,
wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:
> 
[...]
> I went to check on the bike and found more rat turds, but ALL eight of the
> poison blocks were gone ! Now what gives ? ? This sucker immune to rat poison
> or some super rat ? 

Nope.  They eat the poison and go away to die.  Maybe they crawl into
the walls of your house to die, rot and stink.  (Use the dessicating
poison and that won't happen.) 

Odd they didn't bite on the bike.  What is it, Japanese?  See, we
have a problem here where rats will eat a whole Hog over the winter.
(Hawg, Hog, you know.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: boo@athena.mit.edu (Christopher J Foley)
Subject: LTD 454 engine for sale cheap in boston area.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 08:26:50 GMT

$75 bucks!

unwittingly bought an EX500 with and ltd 454 enginge in it.
boy was I mad.
after I cooled down I bought a real EX motor and swapped them.

here'e the deal:
don't know the history of this motor.
pretty sure it threw a chain when the asshole who sold it to me tried to put
in in the EX, with it's extra long belt drive output shaft.
needs a shifter cover, I think I've got a starter for it, carbs are 
totally dissasembled and probably not all there. I got them that way.
If you've got an ltd with a fried tranny or top end, it would be sort of easy
to replace it with this thing. better yet, sell it to me, and I'll do 
it and make a bundle!


Kid Oreo

'89 EX500 w/'87 engine
From: sasmjw@unx.sas.com (Martyn Wheeler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bike fires
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:25:39 GMT
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karen@angelo.amd.com (Karen Black) writes:
>azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:
>>The upshot of this is that, if you get 
>>it on your finger and you a> know what it is, b> get to hospital quickly, 
>>then they just amputate your finger. Wait a bit longer, and your hand has to 
>>go.........

>I work in a semiconductor fab where we use HF.  It is probably the nastiest
>chemical we use, because it looks like water, and it is absorbed by your
>skin like water, so we treat it with great care.  I have *never* heard of 
>anyone losing a limb to HF.

Actually, I think Mr. Woodward has confused HF with another nasty
substance, monoflouracetic acid.  The flourine atom "looks" just like
a normal hydrogen to most of the body's systems, and since acetic acid
is a vital part of the metabolic pathways, monoflouracetic trashes
them from the bottom up, so to speak.  The recommended treatment on
spilling a drop on your finger is to amputate the finger immediately
with whatever you have to hand.  At least, that was the recommended
treatment 14 years or so ago, when I used the stuff.

Martyn
--------------sasmjw@unx.sas.com----(Martyn Wheeler)----DoD #293--------------
SAS Institute, Inc: (919) 677-8000 ext.7954    H: (919) 839-0092 (Raleigh, NC)
  "You should try it sometime.  Put a bucket on your head and shout.
         I sound like Nico."  -- Kevin Ayers, _June 1, 1974_
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From: cstringe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Chuck Stringer)
Subject: Re: Call me Stupid...
Organization: Indiana University, University Computing Services
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:01:04 GMT

vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson) writes:
| In rec.motorcycles, labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
| 
|    ... tale of self-induced misery deleted  ...
| 
| 
|   OK, now *that's stupid*.  Get your ass (and anything physically
|   connected to it) into some protective gear.

Is there an alternative to Aerostitch pants for us poor folks? Leather's a
bit too warm for summer around here.

Thanks,

Chuck Stringer                   'If it can't be learned from TV, it isn't
1967 BSA Spitfire                       worth knowing'  -Calvin
Email- cstringe@ucs.indiana.edu.
From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was: Helmets)
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:32:56 GMT
Organization: Progress Software Corp.

dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:


>> In general that *is* my attitude.  However, sometimes there are cases
>> where either the manufacturer didn't go far enough to educate the
>> consumer (which is still quite often the consumers fault) or
>> circumstances that couldn't be preconceived.

> Why should it be the manufacturer's resonsibility to educate the
>consumer?   If I had the money, I could walk up to Boeing and buy a 747.
>Or I could buy a milling machine, or a computer.  That doesn't
>necessarily mean I'm a pilot, a machinist, or a programmer.  It's not
>the manufacturer's problem.

> "Hey, asshole, you sold me this hammer, and it didn't have safety
>stickers all over it like my ladder and weed whacker, and I just mashed
>my thumb with it and the nail is going to come off.  I'm going to sue
>your ass off, and given the way US courts work, I'll probably win!"

  Why should it be the manufacturer's resonsibility to educate the 
consumer?  

  1) Because people are stupid.  If someone has never used a piece of equipment
before it is not unreasonable to expect that the maker would outline the *basic*
safe methods of using it.

  Man buys ladder.  Safety labels say not to extend it farther than the last
two rungs on the ladder.  Owner complies and everything is fine.  reasonable
safety label expectation.

  2) Because if they don't they'll be screwed like you indicate above.

  Man's brother uses ladder to paint his barn.  Puts on foot of the ladder
on a frozen cow pie.  As he works the sun melts the pie and the ladder falls
over to one side.  Man breaks leg.  Man sues ladder company.  Man WINS!  Jury
decided that the ladder company should have included a section about use on 
possible frozen ground in manual.  (This is a *true* story from here in MA).

  This, IMNHO, is *un*reasonable doc expectations.

-Matth
  


--
          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  
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From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Strangers on your bike (was: Protection for your bike)
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:00:23

"edw" == Edward Walsh <edw@boi.hp.com> writes:


edw>fess up as to the likely perpetrators, and then went to the houses of each
edw>of the parents of each the kids in the neighborhood, explaining graphically
edw>the consequences of a 500+ pound motorcycle falling on your average twirp
edw>(nicely of course).

One thing I found out that worked, at least in Houston, was to have a
couple of Houston's Finest come by and have a little talk with the
kids (in my case 12-14 year olds).  It helped.  That, and having a 6'
guy with earrings, a bad haircut, leathers, and morning breath (me)
walk out and yell at 'em for 5 minutes about being irresponsible
little kids and how would they like it if I came and broke their bikes
when they were at school.... :-)
--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWMOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bike fires
Date: 23 Dec 92 11:00:28 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Why is the P.Q. (pedant quotient) of this group so astronomical? Oh, yes, I 
forgot - its full of academics and clerks.

Who the hell cares what its called or what its molecular structure is?
JUST DONT TOUCH IT unless you have a fetish about stumps.
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Application for DoD Membership
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 21:56:44 PST
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Friday January 01 1993 21:52, Vareck Bostrom wrote to All:

 VB> Vareck Bostrom
 VB> bostrov@engr.orst.edu
 VB> '87 Ninja 600RX '92 CBR900RR  NeXT Turbo Color  NeXT Cube
 VB> '90 Nissan 300ZX '92 Nissan Pickup  '93 Beretta 92FS Centurion 9mm
 VB> '92 IMI Desert Eagle .41 Mag  '92 Colt King Cobra .357 Mag
 VB> '92 Glock 21 .45 ACP  '93 Ruger Single Six .22/.22 WMR
 VB> AK-47  Colt CAR-15  Mossberg 500A 12-ga.  S&W Model 29 .44 Mag
 VB> Savage 99 .250-3000  ...and other stuff

Oh, my, I'm so impressed. Can I list my mint AutoMag 44, my Belgium Browning
12 guage superimposed Pheasant Grade, or my 1802 Walthrop derringer too? Not to
mention the Belgium Browning BAR in 30-06, or the Charles Daley superimposed,
or the Mirouku skeet gun. After your comment about the guy only having a 600cc
moto, I'd like to point out that if I traded you my weapons for yours, you'd
still have to give me your car, your truck, your motos, and your computer gear
to make it an even trade. Actually, even then, you'd owe me about 10 grand.
So, don't pick on people because you think you've got more. Someone always is
around who can show you up. Now, piss off, mate!

John

--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
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