HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,soc.college
Subject: Re: Steam Tunnels
Date: 5 Apr 92 05:11:16 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <1992Apr4.233431.2582@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:

>If I were I ever caught, it was my plan to say "Where the fuck am I?  I
>just walked through an open door in the basement and suddenly I was here
>and started looking around."

Something to keep in mind while roaming around steam tunnels. Watch for
puddles of water on the floor. Live steam is invisible. If you walk into
it the first symptom is third degree burns. They found a dead student in
the tunnels here at OU. He was stabbed to death by a couple of locals
when he decided it was there turn to come up with some pot or some such.
By the way, why is this in cult-movies?


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From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: creatively names buildings
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:10:14 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Apr12.173208.13425@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) writes:
> In article <1992Apr11.193300.2939@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> wasylik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Wasylik) writes:
>>
>>Or let's buy Ted an rational viewpoint...
>>
> 
> 	Nobody has _THAT_ much money.
> 
> 
Actually, one of my fraternity brothers might >-0

Mike (taking a cheap shot, since it isn't in the fraternity argument thread)
> --
> |Thomas Guptill     | University of Rochester Class of 1995                |
> |CPU Box 277445     | INet:  tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu               |
> |Rochester, NY 14627| Mom:   aprint::wins%'tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu'|
> |(716) 274-3378     | Jess:  tgpt_ltd%uhura.cc.rochester.edu@husc3         |
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.privacy
From: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Cordless phones
Reply-To: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago, Dept of Molecular Genetics
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:40:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.170927.12262@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.154218.4196@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jrd5@po.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper) writes:
>>In a previous article, s8759859@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone) says:
>>>In article <1992Apr16.004644.26217@news.iastate.edu> twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu (Mike McNarney) writes:
>>>
>>>   Alright, scanner owners! Here are the cordless phone freqencies:
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>Not that we'd violate peoples' privacy and various laws by listening
>>>in on those frequencies or anything...
>>
>>No, you wouldn't.  The ECPA of 1986 specifically exempts cordless phones
>>from any restrictions on being monitored.  If you want to protect your
>>privacy, don't broadcast your conversations over the air.  The frequencies
>>used by cordless phones are shared by toy walkie-talkies and baby monitors,
>>as well as anyone else with a cordless phone.  
>
>And what of those people who don't have cordless phones but happen to
>be talking to people who do?  Regardless of the legality of it, it's
>extremely unethical to intentionally eavesdrop on someone's conversation
>when they reasonably believe that it's private.

I though we didn't have do any ethics in this group.

And that's not what you said last night in your private phone conversation
with  __________ which I tapped into.  :)

>-- 
>Ted Frank          + "Question whether attorney's filing claim for 'stud fee'
>1307 E 60 St, #109 +  as countersuit to paternity action was improperly
>U o' C Law Skool   +  motivated required remand."  Headnote 9, Committee on
>Chi, IL 60637      +  Legal Ethics of WVa State Bar v Douglas, 370 SE2d 325.

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
From: mblum@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Cerebus)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: a thought about "frats"
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:24:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: chaos.mblum.702573893
Organization: Brandeis University

kcahr@next09wor.wam.umd.edu (The Durlan) writes:

>In article <S8759859.92Apr4135540@titan.ucc.umass.edu>  
>s8759859@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone) writes:
>> Yeah, but my response to that is:
>> "I'll call a fraternity a 'frat' because my country IS a 'cunt':  It's
>>  run by a dick and he's fucking us all!"

>LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT. PAL.

The ideal of the USA is not "love it or leave it," the ideal is "love
it or try to change it."  That's the beauty of a democratic
republic--if you don't like the way it is, you can try to make it
different.  That's one of the main things that makes our system of
government more fair than most.

-- Matt
+------------------------------+------------------------------------------+
|  Matt "Matt" Blum            | "Hello.  My name is Oedipus.  You are    |
|                              |      my father.  Prepare to die."        |
| mblum@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu  |                                          |
|                              | I am not politically incorrect.          |
|  (617)736-5878               | I am politically challenged.             |
+------------------------------+------------------------------------------+
From: kaszeta@pacific.cps.msu.edu (Richard W Kaszeta)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Profs: THe good, the bad, the metaphysicallly disabled.....
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:02:05 GMT
Reply-To: kaszeta@pacific.cps.msu.edu (Richard W Kaszeta)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: kaszeta@pacific.cps.msu.edu

You've been around the foreign teachers too long when you yourself
start pronouncing vector as "wector."
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 16:00:32 MST
From: Scott Craig Hume <ICSCH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Why classrings?

Why do people wear classrings?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: PUBLICATIONS
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:54:19 GMT

In article <73929@netnews.upenn.edu> mkane@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Margaret Kane) writes:
>	The last happenned last year when the _DP_ made up a fake issue of _The
>Cornell Daily Sun_ drove all the way up to Ithaca, and distributed in teir
>dorms and buildings before the final football game of the year. Not only did we
>mock their school, (a common theme in all joke issues), but we also made fun
>of_The Sun_ which is a total rag. We aren't really worried about anyone doing
>the same thing to us, (Harvard did it to Yale a few years ago) because no one
>wants to go running around West Philadelphia at 6:00 in the morning.
>
>Margaret Kane Engineering '93
>City Editor
>"How do you cover the city? Like a blanket."

Dear Margaret-

	Even though I am bleeding Red Cornellian, I'm going to congratulate
you on your effort.  That joke issue was truly impressive.  I have parts
of that issue cut up and displayed on my door.  At first we thought that issue
was done by the Elis because we did the same thing to Yale just couple of
weeks before.  In any case, your parody was truly impressive.

PS-I would not call The Sun a rag.  Sure, it's a Day Hall (our Admin building)
mouthpiece, but not a rag.  Cornell American and Cornell Review are rags.


-- 
T. H. Brian Chung         |These are my opinions.  If you want them, you will
JFE@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU  |have to fight me for them.
JFE@CORNELLA.BITNET       |I am a trained Kwisatz Haderach.  Kids, do NOT try
JFE@ALCHEMY.TN.CORNELL.EDU|this at home!
From: adw@cci632.cci.com (Allen Williams (co-op))
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: junk mail (Re: Wanted: Favorite College/Dorm Practical Jokes)
Date: 3 Apr 92 13:55:07 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <1992Mar27.153857.4724@midway.uchicago.edu> genn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Aren't you going to post your secrets of getting junk mail?
>I wish I got more.
>(God, I can't believe I said that.  But *any* mail, when you're a student, 
>makes your dormmates jealous...)
>

 Junk mail begets junk mail- in theory, the junk mail people are part of
a big conspirancy and they sell each other their mailing lists. However, 
from my personal experience, you have to keep at it in order to keep
receiving a high flow of junk mail. In my freshman year in 1988, I filled
out everything I could get my hands on- bingo cards from *any* magazine
(Better Homes, Byte, etc), 'fill out this card for more information' cards,
those cards you see in bullitien boards (spring break packages, fill in
for more information). I gave up after a year when I got bored with it.
 The flow of mail reduced itself from huge packets of junk a day to one
or two catalogs a week. Junk mail isn't self-perpetuating, but I have observed
that junk mail for expensive things keep coming long after junk mail
for inexpensive things have stopped. I no longer get Hallmark 
catalogs for little porcelain schlock, but I still get a helfty catalog
now and then for web offset printing presses.
 Some of the interesting stuff I got includes two CD ROMS for Sun computers
(I don't have a Sun, though, and the music sucks when played on a cd player),
videotape ads for 1-2-3 video tutorials, samples of tampons, a packet of
the kinds of paper I can buy for my web offset printing press, and a rather
nice fountain pen with my name on it.
 So my advice for people who want to abuse the junk mail industry is to go
after the expensive stuff, like Porches and motorboat catalogs, network
equipment, web offset printing presses, and Lear Jet maintenance. The small
stuff will last only a few months after they figure out you're not
going to buy anything and won't waste any money on you anymore. Since you
might buy a web offset printing press to fit inside your new Lear in the
next few years, they send you these catalogs because a quarter million
dollar purchase will recover their catalog costs many times over.

 
                                                     Derrick
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Subject: Re: Creative building names
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:04:00 GMT

	My school had a playing field that regularly foooded. (Our frat
	had a geat picture of 2 guys in a rowboat, one rowing, one fishing,
	and one guy with just his head sticking out of the water, and
	directly behind them was the baseball backstop.)

	When the new student union building was built, the student lounge/
	cafeteria/meeting room was dedicated to the old playing field, and
	named "THE BOG".

+---_      Frank R. Borger - Physicist     Internet:  Frank@rover.uchicago.edu
|__|_)  Michael Reese  - Univ. of Chicago  Phone : 312-791-8075 fax : 567-7455
|  | \ _  Center for Radiation Therapy
|     |_)   2929 South Ellis Avenue        Bachelor; A man who never made the
      |_)   Chicago, Illinois 60616        same mistake once!
From: st891669@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Prof's accents
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:42:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr15.174254.26429
Reply-To: st891669@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

When I was in high school in DC, which is not technically southern but the
accent leans toward the South if anything we had teachers that nobody could
understand.  But the best one I thought was when my science teacher told us
to be sure we ate all our "vegebles" and something else about "lightbubs" 
that I can't remember b/c I was so horrified that she could even think about
pronouncing it that way...maybe it's just me.
                                            - katie
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.college:1165 alt.folklore.urban:11609
From: gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gerson V Koenig)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: MIT's "Infinite Corridor"
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:33:33 GMT
Organization: UB

I remember reading in their literature that it was about the third longest 
corridor in the world, after ones in the pentagon and the kremlin. I know
this isn't much to go on. Anybody who might have gone through the application
process with them recently might have the literature at hand.

Gerson Koenig
gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: buchekcm@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Subject: Re: Boldly Not Going Where No Man Has Not Gone Before
Reply-To: buchekcm@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:06:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.173709.26992@cs.rose-hulman.edu>,
    kempga@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Greg Kemp) writes:
>I wish they had done this on our campus.  None of our sidewalks follow  
>natural pathways.  The deans have tried repeatedly to keep students from  
>creating new paths (including the legendary "Resist the Lure of the  
>Hypotenuse" letter from the president) but with little success.

    Yeah, our quadrangle isn't really a quadrangle.  I thought the whole idea
behind a quadrangle was to connect every possible path with sidewalks, so
people didn't have to walk on the grass.  Ours is the only one I've seen that
caused people to find their own shortest paths.  Really pretty funny
considering we are an engineering school.

Craig M. Buchek

(Kinda silly talking across the net, Greg!)
From: scstr@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Steam Tunnels
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:55:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: ecl.1992Apr8.155547.3891
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

In article <ranger.702591165@plague>, ranger@plague.ugcs.caltech.edu (Ben Smith) writes:
> There are steam tunnels at Caltech.  I've been in them dozens of times.  If you
> are a Caltech studen, here is no penalty for being caught down there.  In fact
> I can think of only one time when someone I know got caught, and that was 
> because they asked for it.  All security did was give a severe tongue lashing.
> If the person caught is not from Caltech, then security will press tresspassing
> charges.  As to whether students are allowed in the tunnels, the Dean of 
> Undergraduate Sudents specifically refused to comment.
>   The tunnels are neat and actually have some ineresting graffiti.  All the
> pipes are covered wih asbestos.  It is a nice way to get around campus when
> it is raining.

I second this.  I graduated from Caltech in 1989, and I can definitely
recall using the tunnels ("tunneling," with physics majors chuckling
at the quantum mechanical implications :-) ) on the relatively rare
rainy days to get across campus.

I don't know which house you're from, Ben, but I was from Blacker house,
which had (has?) definite traditions involving the steam tunnels.  In
fact, some of the graffiti that you have seen no doubt contains the
greek letter sequence of "gamma, delta, beta, gamma."  For the benefit
of those outside Caltech, let me say that there have been a plethora
of memorable missions with "questionable" but certainly not harmful goals
conducted by members of Blacker house over the years; the previous
greek letter sequence was used as a signature for the deed.  The source
of this "signature" was apparently a comment by a security officer, who
when confronted with the (amusing) evidence of yet another prank in
the tunnels, stated that it was "just that God Damn Blacker Gang again!"
                                           ^   ^    ^       ^
Ah, life was fun.  :-)

STR

>  
>       Ben Smith
>       ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu
>       "Have South--Will travel"
> 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: s8759859@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone)
Subject: Re: Cordless phones
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst
	<S8759859.92Apr16024306@titan.ucc.umass.edu>
	<1992Apr16.164410.2253@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:07:41 GMT

Oops, perhaps I forgot the smiley...

Silly Me.
--
T. Stone 
(s8759859@titan.ucc.umass.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: wasylik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Wasylik)
Subject: Re: a thought about "frats"
Organization: Ministry of Propaganda
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:05:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.104205.11529@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> reyy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>In article <unruley.702368746@mcl>,
>unruley@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Kriss Boyce) writes: 
>> I recently attended my first fraternity party (and probably last) and was
>> given an interesting quote:
>> "Don't call them 'frats', after all would you call your country a 'cunt'?"
>> 
>> just a thought...
>> kriss "flame me. i'm bored" boyce
>
>I've heard this a lot before (I think Dartmouth fraternities are
>big on this saying), but I never really understood it.  My name
>is David, should I be offended if someone calls me Dave?

The reasoning behind this mode of thinking is that the word "frat" has 
negative connotations that the word "fraternity" does not.

Me, I don't let my self worth be determined by other people's labels.
Say la vee.  (as we say here in Chicago)


-- 
Mw

[ Michael Wasylik                     ><    There goes the                 ]
[ wasylik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu         ><    neighborhood...                ]
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr)
Subject: Re: Fraternities
Organization: Northeastern Law, Class of '93
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 15:16:04 GMT


(What the hell is this debate doing in alt.folklore.college, anyway?)

In article <1992Apr11.223330.26302@midway.uchicago.edu>, 
gross@befvax.uchicago.edu said:

=> Another example, a bunch of frat members at my undergrad college
=> A friend of mine who went to Kansas University (KU) and was in a
=> frat told me of a party that the fraterinity sponosred, where they
=> rented a bus that went around campus and picked up each of the
=> brother's dates.  As the woman came towards the bus, the frat
=> members yelled "Cunt!", "Bitch!", "Whore!", "Slut!" at the women.
=> (Actually I think it was "That's John's slut!", or "Here's Mike's
=> cunt!").

*  *  *

=> Also, it was well known that to become a 'little sister' of the
=> frat one had to sleep with one of the brothers.  The women also
=> had initiation, which was essentially an abuse of power.

Sounds to me as though all the participants, male and female, in
these activities were there voluntarily.  (The girlfriends didn't
have to ride in the bus, or even remain girlfriends, and nobody
_has_ to become a little sister.)  So what's the big problem?

=> No amount of voluntary community service can make up for the kinds
=> of behavior described above.  And this is not the actions of
=> individuals, but of the fraternity as a whole.

Why does anyone have to "make up" for the kind of behavior they
practice among themselves?

-- William December Starr <wdstarr@athena.mit.edu>

   (Who tried to get into MIT's Tau Alpha Epsilon frat in '75,
   wasn't accepted, and wound up living in a dorm and basically
   not paying attention to frats after that.)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: creatively names buildings
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 21:47:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.155557.2694@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st901316@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>More Brandeis naming fun:
>
>The school is relatively young (1948), and for the first 30 years or so
>of its existence, there were more rich old people dying off and leaving
>$$$ to the school than there were buildings to be named for them.
>
>Hence the student center, named as a whole the Usdan Student Center, has
>four separate arms, each with its own lobby, each with its own individual
>name.  

Noooo, it was more that there were more rich people who weren't rich
enough to buy a whole building, but a lot of people wouldn't donate at
all unless they got a building named after them.  

It's part of the reason Brandeis is
going bankrupt -- its infrastructure costs relative to its size are
huge because having lots of tiny buildings is a very inefficient way
to handle things.

Usdan has at least six different named main areas -- the whole building,
the four wings, and the center pavillion.  Then there's Levin Ballroom,
and I believe the room that the Waltham Group is in is named after somebody
who donated the money specifically for the use of the [Stealth] Yearbook.

Then there's a UL about the funding for Usdan that someone told me --
Sachar went to each of the five families who had a wing named after them
and told them that the other four had already chipped in, and all they
needed was another $X,XXX,XXX from the fifth to finish the building....
-- 
Ted Frank          + "He wanted to be the car rather than the thimble or the
1307 E 60 St, #109 +  hat."  -- District attorney explaining Marc Cienkowski's
U o' C Law Skool   +  murder with bow and arrow of Michael Klucznik in
Chi, IL 60637      +  Doylestown Borough, PA over a game of Monopoly.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban
From: jim@fuji.eng.yale.edu (James J. Szinger)
Subject: Re: MIT's "Infinite Corridor"
Organization: Yale Univerity, Intelligent Sensors Lab, Elect. Eng.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:09:52 GMT

In article <BM85zx.3x3@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com (James
'Kibo' Parry) writes:

	   I saw the silly ol' quarter-mile thing today.  A friend at MIT
   told me he's been told it's the longest *straight* corridor in the
   world.  Somehow, I doubt this.  Anyone got facts?  Anyone got a
   definition of "straight"?  Anyone got a longer corridor I should visit
   wearing Rollerblades?

[...]
	   Is the MIT one really straight, since the Earth's surface is
   spherical?  If it were Officially Straight, you could drop things in it
   and they'd all roll towards the middle.  If the corridor were really
   infinite, it wouldn't HAVE one, so that wouldn't apply.

Airports survey their runways out to about 6 decimal places.  For
a straight runway, the two ends do not point in the same
direction (+180 degrees).  The earth's curvature and all that fun
stuff.

Jim

--
James Szinger                        jim@fuji.eng.yale.edu
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.college:1285 soc.college:1863
From: zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach Kessin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,soc.college
Subject: Re: still more practical jokes
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:16:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: chaos.zkessin.703005378
Organization: Brandeis University

producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:

[...]

>I love it when people say 'i dont want to join a Fraternity because I don't
>buy my friends.' That is probably the most insipid remark anyone canmake. 
>In what way does a Fraternity man 'buy' his friends? 

>Maybe by paying dues? Gee, in my Fraternity, Sigma Pi, our dues go to
>pay for our house. And our parties. And all the stuff we get from our
>national office. New initiate deposits are used to pay for manuals
>to educate (usually freshmen) about our Fraternity and the ways of the world.
>This is the same at all the other Fraterniies I know of. 

>If you want to get into the bs about good/vs bad, if it werent for the greeks
>on my campus, there would be a lot of dead people right now, we provide more
>blood than any other organization(s) in the state. We are constantly
>trying to out-do eachother raising funds for our charities, etc...

>Any real Fraternity has completely eliminated all 'hazing'. you don't have
>to denegrate a man just to make him one of your brothers. Just once I'd like
>to get the real story as to why all those ROTC cadets run around campus at
>3:00 in the morning in full battle gear with their rifles over their heads.

"It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
SIGNIFYING NOTHING"
Macbeth "Macbeth" V.v 26-28

--Zach
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