HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: 900073s@dragon.acadiau.ca (Donald Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Greg Smyth (Calgary??)
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:51:57 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe) writes:

>In article <1992Sep30.183825.22920@dragon.acadiau.ca> 900073s@dragon.acadiau.ca (Donald Smith) writes:
>>  He was the only reason I ever went to a Halifax Citadel game, his style
>>of hockey was, well, "provocative" to say the least ;-)
>>>
>>
>about his style.  I didn't notice anything in the brief period of
>time that he was here.  I know he plays tough, but what have I
>been missing??

  Well, basically, he's a goon ;-).  But there are a couple of good stories
from AHL games in Halifax, where he played for most of two seasons...

  He was a master at drawing a penalty.  When he wasn't in "asshole"
"no think mode" (about %2 of the time ;-), he could intimidate any
player into dropping their gloves whereupon he'd skate away and laugh
while the Cit's would get a 2min unsport's like power play....
 
 *sigh* that's just the beginning ;-).



-- 
 On October 26th, vote YES to Canada!!                                           I'll believe in the first religion I find that realizes God is a Habs Fan. 
 Donald.Smith@dragon.acadiau.ca 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: mcanders@eos.ncsu.edu 
Subject: Re: Opinions, anyone?
Originator: mcanders@c00568-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mcanders@eos.ncsu.edu 
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:46:33 GMT


harrison@mprgate.mpr.ca (Jeff Harrison) writes:

>Right now, I think the best Russian rookie would be Kamensky.

Isn't Kamensky too old to win the ROY? The age limit is 26.

Matt
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: pkortela@lesti.hut.fi (Petteri Kortelainen)
Subject: Re: Hockey's Millionaires
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:46:47

In article <1992Sep24.182553.10493@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner) writes:

 >>In the Sept 22nd Toronto Star there is a list of all salaries that were
 >>filed as of September 8th.
  
 >>Here's the $1,000,000 club:
 >>Winnepeg:     Temmu Selanne

  > Did the article go into detail on how they were figuring out that a
  > player was earning $1 million?  Teemu is not getting $1 million/year.
  > His contract is for 4 years, and is valued at $2.7 million total.
  > That's $400K/year, with a $1.5 million signing bonus.

Teemu Selanne has 3 years contract $400K/year, with a $1.5 million signing 
bonus. So, an average $900K/year. 


  Petteri Kortelainen


Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Sharks lose to Kings 4-2
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 16:19:45 GMT

The Kings dealt the Sharks their second loss in a row despite playing without
Wayne Gretzky, as the Sharks evened their pre-season record to 2-2-1, but
Czech center Jaroslav Otevrel shined for the Sharks, and he's in heavy running
for the fifth center spot on the team.

Otevrel, 24, had a goal and an assist, and in his first game, against the
Vancouver Canucks on Friday, he had an assist, giving him 3 points in 2 games.
He was drafted by the Sharks in the 7th round of the 1991 draft.  Veterans
Kelly Kisio, Dean Evason, and second-year men Mike Sullivan and Dale Craigwell
are considered locks on the team, and Otevrel is competing with John Weisbrod
and Ray Whitney, who, however, is recovering slowly from off-season surgery,
for the fifth center spot.

The Kings took an early 2-0 lead in the first, when Bob Kudelski and Robert
Lang scored goals 30 seconds apart.  However, Otevrel scored directly off a
faceoff midway through the period, and helped set up a power-play goal by
Larry DePalma later in the period to leave the teams tied 2-2 at the end of
the first period.  Otevrel beat the Kings to a loose puck near the right-wing
faceoff circle in the Kings zone, and centered the puck perfectly to DePalma.

(And then, they didn't mention how the Kings got the other two goals. :-()

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Wayne Gretzky for Ross and Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Dean Evason for Selke!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Norris!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
From: mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: ESPN schedule
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:47:10 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <9209281922.aa24896@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> htakeda@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>Does anyone know the NHL TV schedule on ESPN.
>The Oct. 6th debut (I think) is only a week away
>yet they haven't flashed a schedule (EPS)"N my face".

ESPN has not divulged their full schedule (according to sources, they have
only determined 11 games so far).  The only notes from the schedule I know
are that the Flyers are on 3 times in the first ten games and that L.A. has
been removed from the schedule.


*******************************************************************************
*  Mike Burger                    *  I may have had the needle in my arm,     *
*  mmb@lamar.colostate.edu        *  but I never pushed the plunger.          *
*  University of Michigan - 1990  *  --Dave Barry                             *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Buffalo - Rob Ray?
From: S900303@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:48:36 GMT
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS

 Hello Hockey Fans,
 
         Does anyone know if Buffalo will keep Rob Ray this season?  He had
the second most penalty minutes in the league last year but only something
like 8 points.  I thought he might have a tough time making the team with
the new rules in the NHL.
                           Murf
 
 
 
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From: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Subject: Re: Manon
Reply-To: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 12:01:08 GMT

In article <19pveaINN9s4@bigboote.WPI.EDU> carrie@buckaroo.WPI.EDU (Carrie A Ayers) writes:
> 
> I just read that Manon Rheaume (sp?) will play Wed night against the visiting
> St. Louis Blues.  (Read it in Usa Today newsgroup)
> 
> I think this is really cool, hope she lasts a little longer than she did in
> the Junior A game.
> 
> 
> Carrie


   Well Carrie, I think it is total explotation and that is not cool

   Esposito is looking for any way/means possible to try and recoup
   expenses incurred for bringing an NHL team to Tampa

   This is not the first time this has happened in sports, there
   was a woman who tried out for an NBA team, and a woman who played
   in the old ABA (for about 2 seconds in one game)

   I hope I'am wrong, and I hope Ms Rheaume gets an apportunity
   to play in the NHL, but it doesn't look that way yet


chris
-- 

		Mephistopheles ... ruthless, sleepless, unsmiling,
                concentration on self or humorous, civilised, sensible
                and adaptable
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:43:49 EDT
From: <JER108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: gretzky retiring?
Distribution: rec

In article <1992Sep28.4238.24153@dosgate>, "curtis repen"
<curtis.repen@canrem.com> says:
>What *is* it with these PSU twits? Does Penn State have some sort of
>monopoly on freshman idiocy?? I see it *everywhere* on the net; here,
>alt.flame, rec.auto.sport, alt.sex . . . *everywhere*. If I permitted
>myself the luxury of a kill file, psu would be its first and only entry.

     Please don't judge all Penn State net users by the idiodic word of a
few. Maybe he just learned to use the net and is a little excited. There
are plenty of PSU users who DO know what they are talking about and don't
think those comments were funny in any way, even some from Pittsburgh.

     A lot of Pbg/Mario fans resent that Mario has had to play in Wayne's
shadow all of his career. Even when Mario out played Wayne, it was because
Wayne is getting on in his career. That can really get on a fans nerves.
What would Mario have to do to be better than Gretzky? Take better care of
himself would have been a good start. I feel it is safe to say that Mario
will never attain the "Greatness" Gretzky will always be remembered for.

     It will truly be a loss to hockey when Wayne retires. There may never be
another player quite like him. Hopefully the next superstar will rise up
soon enough to take over the media image position. Maybe that will be Lindros,
maybe not, but time is running out.
                                             John E. Runski
                                             <jer108@psuvm>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{)
Subject: Re: Taking the glow off Canada's victory 20 years later
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:38:57 GMT

golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:

>In retrospect, if one looks at the series unemotionally, it was
>basically a tie.  To say we won is sort of dubious...
>
>The most important lesson of 1972, is that we should never allow
>ourselves to face the Russians unprepared...

Yes, it took off the extra arrogance.

>....but it is a lesson Gil Stein hasn't learned as he is setting
>us up to be humiliated in Lillehammer, since he wants to send 
>unprepared professionals. 

Team Canada is hardly like "Dream team", but I don't see how they
could be humiliated in any way. If they stick to what they know best
and if they pick the right players for the wider international rink,
it's hard to find a better team. 

Besides, a sad fact is that Russia is a declining hockey power because
of the huge economic problems. Finnish under 19 youth team trashed
the Russians not so long ago with numbers that nobody could have imagined 
before. (I don't remember the scoreline though) 

>Keenan and Gretzky ran a month long bootcamp for the Canada Cup...
>....the Russians are likely to serve us our heads on a platter
>in the Olympics if there is not a similar preparation period
>before the Olympics.

Wasn't that the first time Team Canada actually prepared for an international
tournament?

Gerald, you are forgetting that almost all the best Russians are playing
in the NHL and have equally short preparation period compared to the Canadians
and Americans. In fact, any team with key players in NHL will have similar
problems. 

>Gerald

Janne Kivela"
From: DMB144@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Eric Lindros
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:41:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92279.144151DMB144
Organization: Penn State University

What do you guys think of this kid.  He's 19-years-old, but he is a moose.
I could not imagine being 6'4" and 235 pounds.  I have a feeling he is just goi
ng to run over the rest of the NHL.  The Flyers will lose because their blue li
ne stinks, but Eric will make news.  Every game I've seen him play (which I mus
t admit is only two or three) he has had some huge hits.  I had the opportunity
 to go to a preseason Flyers game and see him live from my seat at the red line
 in Hershey Park Arena (which is only a few rows from the ice.  The guy is huge
!
                           Doug Banks
                           PSU--Middletown

                     Go Flyers!!
From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens Roster moves/Gang coaching?
Keywords: 18 sent down
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:20:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: adobe.1992Oct2.162053.19626
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <BvI01t.66M.1@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>It is rumored that the Pens will be coached by all the assistant coaches,
>with each coach playing a specific role.  Goaltending coach Gilles Meloche
>is also expected to take part.  GM Craig Patrick will also have input.
>
>Does anyone know of anything like this being done before?  It seems really odd
>to me.

The Sharks have a three person committee to handle the GM job.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: kim@porgy.uucp (Isaac Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Russian Future NHL Stars for Sale
Date: 27 Sep 1992 23:33:32 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: porgy.ucsd.edu

In article <9209271812.AA16476@malibu.sfu.ca> chim@sfu.ca (Alan Chim) writes:
>With all these new Russians coming into the NHL, I thought I'd sell off
>some of their "first cards" for all you die-hard fans who just NEED
>to get their cards.  I have the following cards for sale:
>
>OPC 1991-92 Russian Inserts
>
>Player Name      NHL Team      P.  Russian Team
>
>Andrei Kovalenko  Quebec       RW  Central Red Army
>Igor Kravchuk     Chicago      D   Central Red Army
>Dimitri Mironov   Toronto      D   Central Red Army
>Sergei Nemchinov  New York R.  C   Central Red Army
>Sergei Zubov      New York I.  D   Central Red Army
>Andrei Lomakin    Philadelphia LW  Dynamo Moscow
>Alexander Semak   New Jersey   C   Dynamo Moscow
>Andrei Trefilov   Calgary      G   Dynamo Moscow
>Alexei Zhamnov    Winnipeg     C   Dynamo Moscow
>Andrei Kvartalnov Boston       LW  Khimik
 ^^^^^^
Actually, it was his brother Dmitri Kvartalov that was
drafted by the Bruins in the first round this year.  I
think Andrei played a few games with the San Diego Gulls
(IHL), got some sort of shoulder injury, and then was
never heard from again.

BTW, does anybody know how Dmitri is doing in the Bruins
training camp.  Although he possessed some great offensive
skills, he was the slowest player I ever saw when it came
time to get back on defence.  He really seemed to lack
any kind of work ethic, so I was surprised when I heard the
Bruins took him.

I am also interested in how Vladimir Malakov is doing in the
Islanders camp.  During the Canada Cup and especially during
the Olympics, he was the Soviet's best defenceman, and their
goto guy on the point during their power plays.  Him and
Lachance should make a great pair for the Isles for a long
time.

Isaac (kim@bull.ucsd.edu)
From: RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Opening Night!
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:21:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92280.152139RAP115
Organization: Penn State University

It's A Hockey Night In Pittsburgh - Tonight From The Pittsburgh Civic Arena,
the two time defendingStanley Cup Champions Pittsburgh Penguins host the
Philadelphia Flyers and the moment everybody's been talking about - the debut
of the next wonderkid, Eric Lindros (88).  Should be a great game.  Good way
for ESPN to start off.  One fan's opinion : Penguins 6, Flyers  2.
(Lindros = 1 assist)
FROM THE USA TODAY : For the first time in their 26 year history, the
Pittsburgh Penguins are favored to win the Stanley Cup.  Odds for all teams :
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pittsburgh     5:1        Buffalo       30:1
N.Y. Rangers   6:1        Los Angeles   50:1
Chicago        7:1        Philadelphia  50:1
Montreal       8:1        Winnipeg      50:1
Detroit       10:1        Minnesota     50:1
Boston        12:1        N.Y. Islanders75:1
Vancouver     15:1        Quebec       100:1
Edmonton    15:1        Toronto      200:1
Washington    20:1        Hartford    1000:1
New Jersey    25:1        San Jose     500,000:1
St. Louis     25:1        Tampa Bay    750,000:1
Calgary       30:1        Ottawa      1,000,000:1


Good Luck To Your
Favorite Team


-Elvis
(leaving the building)
From: chim@sfu.ca (Alan Chim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Mogilny and Nieuwendyk
Date: 6 Oct 1992 04:43:02 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I've confirmed that Alexander Mogilny has a groin problem which isn't
healing.  He's scheduled some appointments with a specialist.

Anybody know how severe these injuries are, and how long it is
projected that Mogilny will be out for?

Alan.
chim@sfu.ca
From: blob@Apple.COM (Brian Bechtel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Jarmo Myllys
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:32:12 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

bark@vipunen.hut.fi (Jukka A Virtanen) writes:

>In <6865@kielouta.fi> cspamy@uta.fi (Pasi Myllym{ki) writes:

>>Why super-goalie Jarmo Myllys is nowadays here in Finland (team:KooKoo).
>>In my opinion he didn't get change to show how super he is.
> 
>He did get a chance all right. He played the debute season of the San Jose
>Sharks as a second goalie (Jeff Hackett being 1st), and performed very well.
>As far as I recall, he played maybe a third of all the Sharks games, and
>was within the top 3 players of a game several times. In some games he was
>fantastic, but maybe not often enough or maybe he was in the wrong team?

In his top games, Jarmo was great.  At that point, he clearly looked
like a number one goaltender.  But during other games, he was very
poor.  He let in a lot of goals on his bad nights, even when playing
for the San Jose Sharks (last in any defensive category you'd care to
choose.) On a bad night, Jarmo could take a 4-1 game (against) and make
it 7-1 in a matter of three shots against him.  On a good night, he'd
keep the game at 4-1, and you knew that God Himself wouldn't have a
better chance.  I think his inconsistency was what has led to his being
in Finland rather than the NHL.

And I don't think it was a matter of the team.  Jeff Hackett was playing
with the same band of rookies and beaters, and his play was consistent.
When the Sharks got blown out in a game with Hackett in goal, you knew
that it wasn't all Jeff's fault.  When the Sharks got blown out in a
game with Myllys in goal, you couldn't say that.  That's why the Sharks
voted Hackett as most valuable player, and traded Myllys away.

--Brian Bechtel     blob@apple.com     "My opinion, not Apple's"
From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: More Hawks Signings
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:56:16 GMT

The Blackhawks announced the signings of wingers Rob Brown and Jocelyn Lemieux
yesterday.

Brown signed a contract for one year plus an option year worth $450,000 each
year. Lemieux signed for three years, worth $325,000 this year and $350,000
for the next two years.

******************************************************************************
--Stan Macasieb (stanm@comm.mot.com)              |  1992 Election Ballot
--Motorola, Land Mobile Products Sector           |  
--Schaumburg, IL (just another suburb of Chicago) |  For President-
--------------------------------------------------|
~~The opinion expressed in this post is not       |  ___ George Bush (GOP)
~~necessarily those of this corporation.          |  ___ Bill Clinton (Dem)
~~Copyright 1992, all rights reserved.            |  ___ H Ross Perot (Weenie)
******************************************************************************

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From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Blues News
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:30:15 GMT


    The St. Louis Blues sent a facsimile to the NHL offices asking Gil Stein
to suspend Chicago's Stu 'The Grim Reaper' Grimson for eight weeks.  It
seems that Grimson deliberately injured Blues defenseman Bret Hedican by
sticking out his knee to hit Hedican along the boards while the Hawks were
up 6-3 with 6 minutes to play in the game.

    The Blues claim that after watching the game tape, Grimson committed
infractions before and after Hedican's hit. He knocked Rich Sutter head-first
into the boards with a cross-check from behind, then tripped and slashed Sutter
after taking out Hedican.  Grimson only received a roughing penalty. Hedican
will be out for eight weeks with a ligament strain in his left knee.
Hedican had a secured spot on the team's defense.
 
   The Blues reduced their roster to 29 players by assigning wingers Dave 
Mackey, Jason Ruff and Ron Hoover, defensemen Jason Marshall and Jeff Batters
and goalies Geoff Sarjeant and Nick Vitucci to Peoria of the IHL.

   The Blues will play the Minnesota North Stars tonight tuesday at the St.
Louis Arena. Bob Plager is planning to use what he call 'The Moscow Express
Line' with Russians Igor Korolev, Vitali Prokhorov, and Vitali Karamnov.

Joe.
Contact for the Blues.
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From: carrie@coyote.WPI.EDU (Carrie A Ayers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Russian Future NHL Stars for Sale
Date: 28 Sep 1992 00:56:09 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: coyote.wpi.edu

In article <1a5gccINN2g2@network.ucsd.edu> kim@porgy.uucp (Isaac Kim) writes:

>I am also interested in how Vladimir Malakov is doing in the
>Islanders camp.  During the Canada Cup and especially during
>the Olympics, he was the Soviet's best defenceman, and their
>goto guy on the point during their power plays.  Him and
>Lachance should make a great pair for the Isles for a long
>time.
>

I read in the NY Times that Malakov has a groin injury that they
are trying to treat.  They aren't sure when he got the injury and
are wondering if steriods were used to treat it.  Apparently the
Isles are worried about this injury and gave him an MRI and are
giving him therapy treatments.  Anyone else have more info?

Carrie
carrie@wpi.wpi.edu
GO INDIANS!!!!!!!!
GO ISLANDERS!!!!!!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:01:42 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Sick of Pens Argument (was Re: First Female in Hockey)
Distribution: usa
 <92272.153326RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <BvBFFq.CBK@cs.psu.edu>


Dear Jeremy,
In response to your Rangers 92-93 Stanley Cup Champions comment, just
remember you have to get past 5 teams in the Patrick Division first!!!!!
-End Of The Road
(Boyz II Men)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: wu@mdd.comm.mot.com (Philip Wu)
Subject: Re: Do You Want to Receive NHL Stats?
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:40:29 GMT

In <1992Oct5.170413.13428@scott.skidmore.edu> mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok) writes:

>Hi!  OK. I promise this will be the last post on this topic.
>If you are interested on receiving NHL Player stats for the 1992-1993
>on a periodic basis you must let me know by Tuesday afternoon before
>4pm (cancel the last post that mentioned 7:30pm).  If you want to be
>on the mailing list for the stats, let me know before the deadline.
>As of now, I am including NHL CLUB, GOALS< ASSISTS, POINTS, PIM, PP,
>SH<, GW, GT for players.  Other categories may be created if the
>information to me is available.  Stats will be mailed every time I
>update my database for the nhl games for that day.  I also have many
>others stats for each player currently playing in the nhl from years
>past, so if you have any special request for other information let me
>know.  
>Thank you!

Yes, I would. But I can't seem to be able to mail you for some reason.

Phil
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