From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: alt.personals
Subject: Re: alt.personals and enforced monogomy
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:41:20 GMT

In article <01GO4MBBWZ00000A1W@addvax.llnl.gov>, HOLMES@VAXT.llnl.gov ("WHAT, ME WORRY?") writes:
> 
> In regards to Mike:
> 
> 1. I have never once asked that Darryl quit his service. I even asked HIM
>    if there was another service available. Of course, I got a rude reply,
>    but we won't go into that now.
>> 2. I am an anal-retentive.......I WAS QUOTING CHEVY CHASE FROM SNL NEWS!!
>    (Jane, you ignorant slut) during a debating session.
> 
> 3. I never stop anyone, or try to stop anyone from there freedom of speech.
>    I would never stoop so low as to call someone a bigot in order to shut
>    them up. I will, however, tell someone to shut up before they make more
>    of an ass of themselves. (sorry you didn't take that advise)
> 
> 4. You seem to jump the gun on alot of issues. We are not trying to get Darryl
>    to step down or stop his service...YOU IDIOT (sorry, slipped out).. we 
>    are trying to get a NEW, repeat after me, N-E-W, service that isn't so
>    moralistically(sp) judgemental. I don't like it when someone tells me I
>    can't do something, and it looks like neither do you.
>
> 5. You really should get a grip and slow down on the namecalling, and READ
>    the postings before you jump. I definitely can see that you are single,
>    and why.
> 
> question- Why on earth would anybody call someone a bigot because they want
>           to stop descrimination? Really Mike, choose your words better. 
>           I was impressed with your namecalling however. As soon as I can
>           get back into freenet, I will definitely add a few of those to 
>           my .sig. ;-)

Let's put this into perspective.  there were a number of people moralizing
about Darryl's service and calling it discriminatory and telling him that
he should change his policies or shut it down.  His policies are not 
discriminatory; they do not preclude anyone from using this newsgroup.
When he answered them, they came down upon him with righteous indignation and
abuse, while portraying themselves as the defenders of goodness and light.  I
got sick of this sanctimony and tried to point out to them that they were
guilty of the very things that they were accusing Darryl of being.  That, in
turn, got me flamed--so, I started flaming back.  Somewhere along the line,
you joined in the flames against me, so I included you in my retorts.  I did
not start the name-calling, but I do reply in kind when others instigate it.

I suggested to the name callers that they start their own ACS or ECS if they
didn't like Darryl's, but none of them seemed to be interested in that (at 
least, not in their public messages), but semed rather more interested in
flaming anyone who disagreed with them.

> In closing.....maybe your heart is in the right place, but you should really
> make sure that your brain is in gear before you get behind the keyboard. 
> Keep posting those anonymous ads through your wonderful service, but maybe
> you should let someone else write them. Just a thought,

BTW, I don't post anything anonymously now; Darryl won't let me--because,
contrary to your assumptions, I am married.
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