HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Social Democratic Party
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:04:13 GMT

In article <1ed02sINNnke@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:
>What is Social Democratic Party?  When was it established?
>Did Japanese Socialist Party changed its official name
>recently?  Did the right-wing members of the former JSP
>join with Rengo (United Labor) supporters?

I second this question.
Can it be that SDP designates the coalition with SHAKAI-MINSHU-RENGOU
(Social Democratic Union?)?
Or was the later re-unified (absorbed) to JSP?
Am I missing something?

-YH
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Japan's Automobile Industry 
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:33:24 GMT



	TOKYO (UPI) -- Japanese automakers Honda Motor Co. and Mazda Motor
Corp. reported their earnings for the first half of their fiscal year
fell from last year amid a global slump in auto sales that has hit all
Japan's auto companies.
	Mazda said its net income for the six months ended Sept. 30 plunged
85.4 percent to 621 million yen ($5.2 million), or 0.57 yen per share,
from 4.26 billion yen from the same period last year.
	The automaker's net sales for the period rose 2.4 percent to 1.13
trillion yen ($9.51 billion) from 1.1 trillion yen the year before.
	Operating profits tumbled 39.9 percent to 6.64 billion yen ($55.9
million) from 11.04 billion yen the year-ago period.
	Japanese automakers have suffered from stagnant auto markets at home
and abroad which have depressed sales and into into profits.
	``We cannot expect the business environment in both Japan and
overseas to promptly change for the better during the second half of
fiscal 1993 (ending March 31),'' said Mazda President Yoshihiro Wada.
	Mazda said the business environment was ``more difficult for the
Japanese automotive manufacturers than they had expected.''
	The company blamed sluggish sales in Japan as well as weak demand in
the U.S. and European markets.
	Mazda was able to counter a net fall in its unit sales by upscaling
its product lineups, the company said.
	Honda, meanwhile, reported a 38.9 percent drop in its net income to
26.3 billion yen ($222 million), or 27 yen (dlrs 0.23) per net share.
	Net sales and other operating revenue came to 2.14 trillion yen ($18.
04 billion) from last year. Operating income dropped 35.2 percent to 65.
6 trillion ($552 million).
	Honda benifited from its steadily improving motorcycle business, but
was hit by declining sales of autos in Japan and North America, it said.
	Honda revised its forecast for the full year's net income down to 41.
3 billion yen from its original prediction made in May of 60 billion
yen, the company said.
	The company's sales are expected to come to 4.24 trillion yen, down
from an earlier forecast of 4.45 trillion yen.

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From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Germany tweaks Japan
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:22:12 GMT





	TOKYO (UPI) -- Japan should make greater efforts to open its markets
to foreign trade, German Economics Minister Juergen Moellemann told
Foreign Minister Michio Watanabe Thursday, according to a Foreign
Ministry official.
	Moellemann acknowledged Japan has already made strides in freeing up
its markets to foreign competition, but he told the Japanese minister
further obstacles remain, according to the official.
	While Moellemann did not name specific obstacles, he was apparently
refferring to Japan's distribution system, the official said.
	Japan's complex distribution system is often targeted by Japan's
trading partners as a barrier to trade.
	Watanabe responded by saying the issue should be taken up at the
Japan-Germany Trade Forum scheduled to be held in Tokyo Friday.
	The official said the two ministers discussed the stalled trade talks
under the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade as well as the
situation in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.
	Earlier in the day, Moellemann told Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa
that Japan and Germany should work closely together in the international
arena as both countries are becoming more prominent on the world stage.
	Molleman arrived in Tokyo Wednesday to attend Friday's trade forum
and to meet various ministers, the official said.

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From: mj1078@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp (mmanuel pece)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Not again !(was: Fingerprinting Gaijin)
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:53:24 GMT
Organization: Kyushu Institute of Tech., Iizuka, JAPAN.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp
In-reply-to: 


Please, don't start again with the fingerprinting procedure.
We had this discussion only some months ago.

Manuel, a fingerprinted gaijin
--
-- Manuel Pece
  pece@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp       
mj1078@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: new newsgroup discussion
From: tygar+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Tygar)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:38:21 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

I would certainly support the creation of soc.culture.japan.music and
soc.culture.japan.sports.  There is clearly enough traffic on both of
these topics to merit individual newsgroups.  They are also both well
defined areas.
From: cb522@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cathy Atwood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: historical fiction
Date: 20 Nov 1992 23:23:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


As a break from reading more or less scholarly works about Japan,
I checked the local paperback exchange for historical fiction.
My first try was a good one: _Harpoon_ by C.W. Nicol.  There is
a lot of interesting information about whaling techniques used
by different countries around 1850 (sort of a modern _Moby Dick_!)
although the main story line is about all the political factions
in Japan.  The characters in this book helped me grasp better 
the myriad groups and their beliefs, on the way to the Meiji
Restoration: for the Shogunate/for the Tenno/use the technology
of the foreigners/repell the barbarians/etc.etc.

Does anyone have any other recommendations for accurate and
reasonably well written historical fiction?

Cathy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: "Twice" and "Repeatedly" (was Re: Japanese exchange student...)
Followup-To: alt.flames 
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:35:20 GMT

In article <cmort-201192134000@svtmac1.lerc.nasa.gov> cmort@ncoast.org (Chris Morton) writes:
>In article <HARKCOM.92Nov16095130@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>,
>harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) wrote:

>> >Hattori did try to get in repeatedly. Front door and side door.
>> 
>>    Although my English vocabulary may not be good enough, but it seems
>> to me that the word "twice" is more appropriate than "repeatedly" unless
>> you intend to give a biased impression.

>   If it happens once and it happens again, it happened repeatedly.  You
>might have
>a case if he'd said "many times".

   Since the article was incorrectly cited as if Mr. Harkcom had made that
statement, I should take a responsibility to respond to it as a person who 
actually pointed out the questionable choice of the word.

   I didn't say that "repeatedly" cannot be used. I said that "twice" is
MORE APPROPRIATE.

   If it happens once and it happens for the second time, that's described
with "twice" more accurately than with "repeatedly" because as I understand it,
"repeatedly" means "two or more times."
   If you use "repeatedly" for what happens twice, that's at least
less accurate. (Oops. I don't mean to give a lecture on English usage to
a native English speaker although I'm not sure if you are or not.)

--Michiaki

P.S. I wondered if it should be followed up in alt.flames.spelling, but
since this is not really a spelling problem, I just decided to make a
follow-up to alt.flames. Sorry for any inconvenience that it might cause.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: feng@cs.cornell.edu (Zhongyang Feng)
Subject: Re: _o_
Organization: Cornell University, Ithaca NY
	<41082@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <Bxu1LA.2B6.1@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:27:50 GMT


In article <Bxu1LA.2B6.1@cs.cmu.edu> jfriedl+@CS.CMU.EDU (Jeffrey Friedl) writes:
   Here's a "(-:"-like symbol I've been seeing more and more of in e-mail
   from Japan:  _o_


How about this one?

(~O~) 

*yawning*
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Lawyer wanted! Immediately!
Date: 15 Nov 92 14:41:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Yf1isg_00iUxQ3yKIz
	<SMITTIE.92Nov14181302@beach.csulb.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Smiitie,

                Thank you for correctly informing me of the bandwidth
thing. You are in error when you mentioned that I am looking for a
lawyer of these airwaves. I was just looking for information. My purpose
is not to try to assinate Mr. Cripin's character. Instinctively, I hope
that Mark has a good life. But, even though I was told not to mention
this but Mr. Crispin should have left me alone when he "killed" me. But,
no this he could not do. Do you know that I have copied every posting
that I've made as well as those that have made postings to me(directly
or indirectly) on this nettwork? Now, I know that I just busted on the
screen saying white this and white that. But, among the current young
Cauasian culture this accepted. I remember a song by a group called
Forienger. You know Lou Grant, and the lead "ax" by Nick(what's his name)
well you get the picture. And, the song was<<<<<<drum Roll>>>>>>>, "
Dirty White Boy". Here are a few bars to remind you:

                                          Da^ da da^ do da do da^
                                          Do da da da^. Der do da
                                          doo. Da^ do di da do da da.
                                                 (chorus)
                                          Yes I'm a dirty white boy!
                                               (background) 
                                             Dirty white boy.
                                                 (Lou Grant)
                                          I'm a dirty white boy!
                                                (Background)
                                              Dirty white boy.
                                                  (Lou)
                                          Dirrrrrrrrrttttty White boy!
      
                                       I been in trouble since the age
of three.
                                       Da^ do da........Well, I believe 
you get the general idea. So, those who have chosen to call me a racist,
to them I can prove and in fact will prove in a court of law that I'm
not. It was never my intention to insult anyone. And, as I can prove, I
have apologized to everyone who took this as an insult. I think that in
the pass I have even apologized to you. But, I think that you know that
in life some poeple just won't accept your apology. Some people "need"
an enemy the survive.

                             The album of the said song is "Foreinger
4". I believe. I've said all along that a have nothing against a person
who is caucasian. I treat everyone with equally respect. Some persons I
treat with extra ordinary respect because I feel sympathic to their
cause.
From: mvcy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japan's military upgrades.
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:42:14 EST
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

In article <Bxyny0.7u3@world.std.com>,
cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond) writes: 
> 
> 
> 	TOKYO (UPI) -- After more than a year of haggling over prices, Japan's
> Defense Agency has decided to go forward with the purchase of high-tech
> AWACS surveillance planes from the United States, the Kyodo News Service
> said Thursday.....


> 	AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System) are Boeing jetliners
> outfitted with special radars and other devices to track enemy air

But I thought that the JASDF already operated Grumman Hawkeyes as early
warning system.  Is the addition of E-3C AWACS really necessary?  Or did the
Grumman deal fall through because of the scandal at the time?  Seems to me
what's good enough for the USN is probably good enough for JASDF.

Satoshi Amagai

> *  cmr@world.std.com	(Temporary) cmr@koneko.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: lpoza@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Luis Poza)
Subject: Request for Japan Experiences
Summary: Need data for a paper...
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: soc.culture.japan
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:05:12 GMT

To anyone with experience living in working in Japan:  I'm putting
together a paper for a Japanese culture class I'm taking, and would
greatly appreciate some input from anyone who has the time to help.
Specifically, I need any information from people with working experience
in Japan (or perhaps even Japanese-dominated workplaces elsewhere)
concerning the degree and manner of exclusion (or inclusion) of
non-Japanese workers in the Japanese office and its workings.  For
example, foreign workers are often "out of the loop," and not let in on
information or decisions that involve almost all the Japanese staff.
_Any_ experiences you could offer would be a fantastic help; stories,
anecdotes, data, references, whatever.  Format of reply is not
important; reply through E-mail (to lpoza@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu) or here if
you wish.

Thanks very much!

=========================================================================
Luis Poza         Internet: lpoza@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu         GEnie: L.POZA
San Francisco State University   Foreign Language Dept.  Japanese Program
=========================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Re: Getting Japanese citizenship (was: finger....)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:25:20 GMT

In article <SMITTIE.92Nov19230539@beach.csulb.edu> smittie@csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:
>>In fact, I believe that the Japanese government, which by the way
>>reflects collective will of Japanese citizens...
>
>Sorry but I can't swallow this one. There are a lot of things that the Japanese
>government does that are in complete DISAGREEMENT with the "collective will of
>the Japanese citizens." We can start with the 3% tax. Anyone else out there
>want to contribute to the list? Mike? Al?

I've seen in s.c.j seemingly Japanese national writting something to the
effect of Japanese government does not reflect Japanese people or something
like that (it was in a tread regarding keeping same political liders in
power since the end of WWII).
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Fingerprinting Gaijin
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:07:24 GMT

In article <ricko.722237555@ee.uts.EDU.AU> ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe) writes:
>And also insulting is the way that you have had to give your fingerprint 
>if you sell anything second hand (if you don't have a stamp).

Well, this has nothing to do with insult or alien registeration.
It's called BOIN, and is a customary way to give recognition when
you don't have a stamp (Japanese and foreigners alike).
Yes, I agree that it gets your thumb messy with the red ink (SHUNIKU).

>What's wrong with a signature?

Again, it's custom.
BTW increasing number of recipients are accepting signs,
including parcel delivery services.

>It serves  little purpose, and is just makes Japan look like a police state.

(sigh) I'll guarantee you that those service personnel won't pass
your fingerprints to the police :-)


BTW: speaking of recognition/identification, there was a serious (though
funny) debate at University Computer Centers on whether electronically
submitted forms without stamps (HANKO) or signatures would count as an
authentic document (this came up when registering for accounts on
network connected sites became a problem).
The conclusion was that yes, they will count, and the reason given was
that the password necessary to login to an account would serve as a
substitute (I'm not sure whether this should be taken as a joke or not).

-YH
From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: please no holy romanization wars
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:59:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: Tomobiki.MS-C.722069999.662824084.mrc
Organization: University of Washington
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: Allen Guo-Ching Hsu <guohsu@mercury.cs.uregina.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0

Guo-Ching Hsu writes:

> What you are showing here are not hiragana characters but just approximate
> pronunciations, unless you display them in Japanese characters. You do make
> a mistake. Besides, admit your mistake wouldn't damage your image, but may
> make it shinny.
>
> Ask an educated(elementary level is more than enough) Japanese to help you.

sophomoric  acj. conceited and overconfident of knowledge but poorly informed

Smittie attempted to explain the usage of the romanization form `ha' for the
reference particle, and what he got in return was a sophomoric answer.

There are several systems of romanization used for Japanese, and each of these
systems have several variations.  Japanese school-children first learn the
Official System (kunrei-shiki) and later on learn Hepburn which foreigners
tend to prefer.  The American textbooks on Japanese use a modified form of
kunrei-shiki.

For the most part, an educated person can read just about any system equally
well.  Native Japanese seem to have a delight in mixing the use of systems,
sometimes in the same word.

The usage of `ha', `he', and `wo' for reference, direction, and object
particles corresponds to what a young Japanese child is taught.  Japanese
children learn hiragana before starting school, and learn the Roman alphabet
as it corresponds to kana.  Thus, they think of `wa' as a sentence particle
(used primarily by women in standard Japanese) or as the counter for birds or
episodes in a series; and of `ha' as the reference particle.

Usually, therefore, ha/he/wo is used as part of kunrei-shiki romanization, but
a number of people (particularly foreigners) prefer ha/he/wo over wa/e/o in
Hepburn.  Hence, the following are all correct:
 1) sensei ha, fuzi-san he itte, syasin wo totte imasita.
 2) sensee wa, fuzi-san e itte, syasin o totte imasita.
 3) sensei ha, fuji-san he itte, shashin wo totte imashita.
 4) sensei wa, fuji-san e itte, shashin o totte imashita.

1 = pure kunrei-shiki as used by a native Japanese, 2 = Jorden-modified
kunrei-shiki, 3 = kana-corresponding Hepburn, 4 = traditional Hepburn.

The only one which is truly awful is 2, which to me combines all the
disadvantages of kunrei-shiki and Hepburn (Jorden would claim these to be
advantages though...).   However, none of them are wrong.
From: smittie@csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Getting Japanese citizenship (was: finger....)
Date: 20 Nov 92 07:05:41 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

>In fact, I believe that the Japanese government, which by the way
>reflects collective will of Japanese citizens...

Sorry but I can't swallow this one. There are a lot of things that the Japanese
government does that are in complete DISAGREEMENT with the "collective will of
the Japanese citizens." We can start with the 3% tax. Anyone else out there
want to contribute to the list? Mike? Al?

smittie
-- 
                             Tada mono de ha nai
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: nitin@visual1.trl.OZ.AU (Nitin indurkhya)
Subject: kyushu sumo tournament
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne Australia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:08:14 GMT


can someone in japan who reads this bboard be so kind as to post the sumo
results. after all, it is a part of japanese culture isn't it?? alternatively
if people here are only interested in events that happened in louisiana, can
some kind soul tell me if there is a bboard where one can get daily updates
on the sumo scores.

adthanksvance,

--nitin
(n.indurkhya@trl.oz.au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: Re: Who started all this gaijin myth?! (was Re: Genitals in Japan) 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: Michiaki Masuda <masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov>
Organization: University of Washington
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:04:27 GMT

Michiaki Masuda writes:
> So, how do you want us to call "gaijin"? We cannot call them "Nippon-jin",
>can we?

Answer: how about ``hito'', ``o-kyaku-san'', etc.?

WHY is it so damn important to have to specifically say that the person is not
of Japanese race?  Yes, I mean ``Japanese race'' -- I have *never* heard
``gaijin'' used to describe anyone who looks Japanese.

There have been any number of excuses such as ``How, when you have several
different customers, would you identify in particular the customer who is a
foreigner if you can't say `gaijin'?''  It is important to realize that this
is nothing but an excuse.  How do you identify a particular customer if they
are all Japanese, or if they are all foreigners?

You can argue all you want that there is no racist intent behind the word
``gaijin''.  That argument is not valid:
 1) you should have enough common sense to know that people do not enjoy being
    singled out by race.
 2) you should have enough courtesy to stop doing it after you have been told
    that some people find it offensive.

White Americans learned in the 1960's that identifying black Americans by
their race was offensive to blacks.  We don't say ``that negro'' or ``that
black'' any more.  We say ``that person''.  Japanese people need to learn the
same type of courtesy.