From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Teams, Players, Coaches.
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:26:04 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Oct28.063524.249200@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI) writes:
> Just a couple of thoughts not meant to offend anybody:
> 
> Most overrated coach:
> 
> (1) Mike Ditka: He is not bad but he is not genious. He relies too much on
> speaches, motivation by humilation (just like with Harbough a couple of weeks
> ago), and the run. The SB ring he has is because of the great D not his play
> calling. I see Ditka as a very good defensive coordinator and an average head
> coach. I welcome criticsm especially by Bears fans.
> 
	Agreed, but he wins games.  I think his biggest problem is that O
coordinator, I think it's Greg Landry (I don't know if their's any relation,
but if there is, then the football genes didn't pass), but am not sure. 
Whomever it is really is poor.  The Bears strike me as having the most
consitently unimaginative offense out there.  If Anderson/Muster/Harbaugh
weren't so good, this team would be really in the shitter.
 
> Most overrated team:
> 
>  Ouch this is hot. I decline for the moment because I am not in an insulting
>  mode right now. That may change tommorow, though.
> 
	I think the Broncos have a monopoly on this one.  Their record is
fairly respectable, but the team, generally, is not.  Take away Elway's
comebacks, and this team is rather poor.

> Most overrated players: [No particular order]
> 
>  QBs: Cunningham. So much publicity for hot/cold performance. When he is hot,
>  he is one of the best, but when he is cold he sucks. You don't want your
>  starting QB to be inconsistent.
> 
	His problem is confidence, no running game, no TE, and a feeling that
he has to do it all.  I like to think of Mark Rypien as the most overrated, but
he isn't being rated very high this year.  

>  RBs: Dickerson. The man is a washout. Too much noise was made when he was
>  traded to the Raiders. He didn't respond given the very good OL of the
>  Raiders. If he can't do it with the Raiders he can't do it with anyone.
>  The Raiders, however, have the most underrated RB, IMO. He is Nick Bell. Give
>  him more playing time and you'll see. By the way I am not a Raider fan.
> 
	I think Bell has the ability to be a major role player for the Raiders
for a long time, but wouldn't cut it as a full time feature back.  I think
Allen is still the Raiders best RB altenative until Bell steps up and shows
that he can do it full time.

>  WR: Tim Brown. sorry Raiders fans but Brown is not producing. He is a big
>  disappointment given his Heisman trophy status. Yes, he is a ligitimate WR
>  who surprise once in a while. My point is once-in-a-while. He had injuries
>  in the past and may be this is the problem.
> 
	I disagree.  Brown simply has to much going against him.  He doesn't
get much PT, has iffy QBs, and when they put him in, has this guy ever been
given a route shorter than 20 yards???  <--Exagerration--<

>  TE: J Nocacek. He is a very very good receiver but an average blocker. There
>  are other TEs in the league that can make it with the cowboys.
> 
	No one thinks he's a good blocker, so how is he overrated?  I think
Eric Green is the most overrated (that druggie  :)) especially since he has ALL
the tools a TE could want, but has yet to produce, even when he is healthy, he
isn't the dominating force he is capable of being.

>  TE: K Jackson. Ditto Novacek except that he is a better athelete.
> 
	I disagree.  Jackson is an excellent blocker.  While watching
Skins-Eagles games, I have seen him flatten LBs to often not to respect his
blocking.  Also, while he doesn't have Novie's hands, he is more able to get
downfield that Novachek.

>  DE: B Smith. Hold your horses Bills. He is great but not in R White class.
> 
	I agree.  This guy gets more press when he makes one sack than White
does when he makes three.  He is a disruptive force though, but he only
performs when the Bills are winning, and doesn't respond well to adversity.

>  DE: C Simmons. Again do not get me wrong, he is great right now. But I think
>  the presence R White made Simmons great instead of very good.
> 
	OOooo, I'll differ here.  Simmons is getting alot of benefit from
White, but he beats people frequently enough that I think he deserves what rep
he's got.  Also, everyone knows that White makes it easier on him, he even
admits it.  

>  DE: R Dent. Age. Age. Age.
> 
	But is he overrated?  I don't think so.  even at 50 [:)] he is a pretty
decent DE, and doesn't get any more hype than he deserves.

>  LB: S Conlan. A good player that gets more than the credit he deserves.
> 
	I don't think Conlan gets that much credit.

>  LB: S Joyner. Ditto Simmons. R White makes everyone around him look great. I
>  do not think that the Eagles D will be the same if RW gets hurt or retire.
> 
	This is where I STRONGLY disagree.  If he were just a pass rusher, I
would say yes, but this guy bashes runners, covers recievers, AND rushes the
passer well.  White's presence doesn't give him THAT much help.  Joyner is one
of the best.

>  LB: M Singltary. Ditto Dent. AGE....
> 
	Who overrates him though?  Singletary plays only against the run now,
doesn't he?  I know he was reduced to that role at one point.
	One guy you left out is Pat Swilling.  Swilling does only one thing
well, and that is BLITZ.  Swilling's talent against the run is that he catches
many in the backfield.  All this guy does is sprint upfield.  Not a complete
player like Wilbur Marshall or Seth Joyner.

>  CB: Sanders. Excellent reputation for a very good corner who is often
>  victimized by good WRs like Rice and Taylor. Part of his excellent reputation
>  is because of his heroic special teams plays which has nothing ti do with his
>  ability to play as a CB. Also do not forgett the two sport thing.
> 
	I agree.  Sanders is overrated, but neither is he all that bad.  

>  No offense intended....
>  Malik......
> 
>  

	C'mon, offend, offend!!!
	-Skins fan that think Ryp sux rox.