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From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Subject: Re: Film Comment and Film Threat
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 11 Nov 92 05:19:03 CST

In article <1992Nov10.145324.9756@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.122949.21132@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE> k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai) writes:
>>Hmmm, having just picked up my first copy of Film Threat last week I 
>>was contemplating reviewing it here. Guess I was beaten to the punch.
>>I'll add my 0.02 Pfennig anyway.
>>
>>Film Threat is to film commentary what Mad magazine is to humour. 
>>80 percent of my problems with FT can be summed up in two words;
>>Christian Gore. Chris' writing is lame, whiny, catty, and simply
>>unfunny. The issue I picked up contained a review by Gore about
>>VHS head cleaning tape...very lame stuff...The rest of the magazine
>>was pretty good, but like Ross Perot, I didn't buy that BS about
>>their being "Outside the film industry" for a second. The rap sheet
>>on Batman was well done and quite funny. If they got rid of him
>>(or gave him a hip pair of glasses and a decent haircut at least)
>>they might actually have a class act on their hands.
>>
>>
>Give it up. The magazine is Christian Gore's, although it is funded by Larry
>Flynt. 
>And some of us enjoy it, just like some of us enjoy Mad Magazine.
>
>I'm sure that Chris would be quite flattered by the comment about "FT being
>to film, what MAD is to humor".
>
You're sooooo *sensitive*!....

I never said I didn't like FT...I just don't like Gore's contributions to
it. There *is* a difference! And comparing it to Mad is not a slam in my
book. Gore's articles are the weakest part of the magazine, IMO. I would
still rather read FT than the putrid and unbelieveably PC brown-nosings
of Premiere (Libby Gelman-Waxner nonwithstanding). As for Larry Flynt
being the shadow behind Gore's editor's chair....well, when does Chris
start giving us beaver shots of Traci Lords?..she is a *serious* actress
now y'know...:)

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From: stuam@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr O A Machado)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Banned film for 9 years
Date: 6 Nov 1992 12:10:45 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <1992Nov5.204607.23611@syma.sussex.ac.uk> nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type) writes:
>I saw a full page spread here in the UK in 'The SUN' newspaper
>advertising the release on video of a film banned since 1983 called 
>'The Burning'... has anyone seen this film, and If so, is it any good???
>btw its a horror flick... if you didn't guess....
>neale

Yeah, I've seen The Burning. It's about a group of kids on a summer camp
or something who decide to play a joke on their weird caretaker. Anyway,
it all goes horribly wrong and he ends up getting torched.

Most of the film is about this horribly scarred bloke getting revenge
(surprise, surprise...) by snuffing kids who are having sex.....

Yes, it's the usual "slasher in the woods" type of affair, but it's probably
better than most, and it has its moments. The version I saw was reasonably
gory, but I think the new re-release has been cut. I'd say the uncut version
was worth watching once, but there are far better films on the "nasties" 
list.



Orlando

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From: nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type)
Subject: Banned film for 9 years
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:46:07 GMT

I saw a full page spread here in the UK in 'The SUN' newspaper
advertising the release on video of a film banned since 1983 called 
'The Burning'... has anyone seen this film, and If so, is it any good???

btw its a horror flick... if you didn't guess....


neale



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From: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:50:00 GMT
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Reply-To: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 

>(Pardon my previous posting; I was interrupted and maybe only gibberish
>through.)  The most shocking film of my childhood was the great Hammer f
>Horror of Dracula.  It was the first film I saw alone without family or
>in a theater. I was only 7 years old and was supposed to meet some older
>and go to the movies. I ended up at the wrong theater and saw this film
>myself. The theater was an old converted vaudeville/stage theater with d
>alcoves and balconies no longer used. This musty atmosphere added to tha
>the screen. I was terrified, but I did not leave even when vampires had
>driven through their corpses in that bright lurid color these Hammer fil
>I was hooked for life on these kinds of films. Does anyone else have thi
>"first movie all alone" experience?  Disney, horror, etc ?

The first time I ever got drunk, I was watching "Fiend Without a Face".
Made an impression on me.....
                                                                                                                             
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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: THEY LIVE!
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:19:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.195404.26055@paladin.american.edu> Mathew L. Spolin <ms5477a@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>Has anyone seen or heard of this movie They Live?  I saw it once on late
>night cable,  and aside from being a little primitive, it seemed like a
>great cult movie.
>
>I was about a guy who finds these sunglasses, and... well, I don
>to spoil it for anyone.
>
>Anyway, does anyone know who made the movie?

John Carpenter of _Halloween_ and _The Thing_ fame.

_They Live_ has one of my all time favorite lines in it.
"I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble-gum...and I'm all out
of bubble-gum."

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"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)
From: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: akira on ld
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:24:55 GMT
Reply-To: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

i say,

i just saw akira on laser disc.  the story and the visuals were exceptional
 - my only gripe is that the voices didn't actually fit the faces.
i saw at the end of the film on the disc a discussion depicting how
the voice track was created first and how the film was put together
in painstaking fashion to match the voices.  i realize this is something
quite revolutionary - however the process was for japanese voices.
being one who hates dubbed movies - i was wondering if they were going
to offer a version which is subtitled.  if anyone has any information
please post or e-mail.

thanks,

stephen
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From: seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Godzilla's son, 'Zilly movies, etc.
Keywords: Godzilla Monster Japan
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:44:28 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cult-movies
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: seawasp@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu

In article <1992Nov7.161856.23570@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>In article <iroderic.721107907@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
>>In <1992Nov4.155829.18475@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>>>In article <1992Nov4.021751.23904@news.columbia.edu> dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner) writes:
>>>I keep seeing references to Minya being called "Godzooky" or some such
>>>in America, but I have never actualy seen it used. Anyone know if such a
>>>stupid name was ever used for the character?

>Sounds like "Godzilla's Revenge" to me. Kid dreams that he goes to 
>Monster Island, and talks with Minya, who blows smoke rings and
>fights monsters. Reused Battle scenes from "Godzilla Vs. The
>Sea Monster" and others. Probably my least favorite 'Zilla film.
>Sound about right, David?

	Yep, although I saw "Destroy All Monsters", and Godzilla's smokering
blowing son was in that one. He ringed one of Ghidora's heads. Hurt, too.
I seem to remember everyone calling him Godzooky, but I can't be sure
whether that was because the name propogated backwards in my memory or not.


	Anyway, if you haven't seen any of the RECENT Godzilla films, you
really should watch either "Godzilla vs Biollante" or "Godzilla vs King
Ghidora". The effects in these things are just amazing for a monster
movie. 'Zilla has expressions, moves better, and the models and sets are
just incredible.

	I have heard rumors that an American, big-budget Godzilla movie
will be made, with the big G coming to the States (I'd guess Los Angeles?).
Done right, that could be one HELL of a movie...


				Sea Wasp
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From: dbn7350@zeus.tamu.edu (NASH, DAVID BENNETT III)
Subject: Colorado Civil Rights   PLEASE READ!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: gay/bi, Colorado boycott.
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:19:00 GMT

Read this several days ago and I thought I would spread the word...
If you don't care, type 'n'. If you do PLEASE READ!!


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From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Film Comment and Film Threat
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:46:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.051903.8984@walter.cray.com> matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.145324.9756@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov10.122949.21132@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE> k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai) writes:
>>>Hmmm, having just picked up my first copy of Film Threat last week I 
>>>was contemplating reviewing it here. Guess I was beaten to the punch.
>>>I'll add my 0.02 Pfennig anyway.
>>>
>>>Film Threat is to film commentary what Mad magazine is to humour. 
>>>80 percent of my problems with FT can be summed up in two words;
>>>Christian Gore. Chris' writing is lame, whiny, catty, and simply
>>>unfunny. The issue I picked up contained a review by Gore about
>>>VHS head cleaning tape...very lame stuff...The rest of the magazine
>>>was pretty good, but like Ross Perot, I didn't buy that BS about
>>>their being "Outside the film industry" for a second. The rap sheet
>>>on Batman was well done and quite funny. If they got rid of him
>>>(or gave him a hip pair of glasses and a decent haircut at least)
>>>they might actually have a class act on their hands.
>>>
>>>
>>Give it up. The magazine is Christian Gore's, although it is funded by Larry
>>Flynt. 
>>And some of us enjoy it, just like some of us enjoy Mad Magazine.
>>
>>I'm sure that Chris would be quite flattered by the comment about "FT being
>>to film, what MAD is to humor".
>>
>You're sooooo *sensitive*!....
>
>I never said I didn't like FT...I just don't like Gore's contributions to
>it. There *is* a difference! And comparing it to Mad is not a slam in my
>book. Gore's articles are the weakest part of the magazine, IMO. I would
>still rather read FT than the putrid and unbelieveably PC brown-nosings
>of Premiere (Libby Gelman-Waxner nonwithstanding). As for Larry Flynt
>being the shadow behind Gore's editor's chair....well, when does Chris

Where did I say that I thought you didn't like it. I was just commenting
that it will never not have Chritian Gore in it. As for the beaver shots
of Traci, it would have to wait a while as they already did a feature on
her in an early issue, before Flynt. But it could be anyday now.
And I figured you might have actually meant the MAD comparison as a 
compliment, but it was hard to tell. 
No sarcasm captioning.
					--Judex--
PS: I'm soooo sensitive. Yeah, and you are a tough being of iron who could
care less about anything. Yup.
From: upham@cs.ubc.ca (Derek Upham)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: HK Films:  Casino Tycoon parts 1 & 2, and Full Contact
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:54:35 -0800
Organization: Raven's Auto Body Repair Shop, Mega-Tokyo.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.cs.ubc.ca

Yesterday I was walking through Vancouver's Chinatown and noticed some
posters for "Casino Tycoon 2" starring Andy Lau.  The posters looked
pretty good, and I noticed that Wang Tsu Hsien was in it, so tonight I
headed out to the Golden Princess Theatre to see it.  Lo and behold,
it was a double feature with "Casino Tycoon".  Even better.

Well, to make a long story short, if "Casino Tycoon" were done in the
U.S., it would be a two-part TV miniseries shown on consecutive Sunday
nights.  In the first film, Andy Lau rises from a menial worker to
become the head of a Macau casino empire.  In the second, his past
comes back to haunt him.  The two films are basically vehicles for
Andy Lau; this isn't bad in-and-of itself, but here it meant that the
writers were more interested in getting Lau to emote than they were
interested in providing a solid story.  The tail end of part 2 was
particularly bad in this respect---entirely too much ``well, _this_ is
what _really_ happened twenty years ago!''  And to add insult to
injury, Wang Tsu Hsien hardly got any screen time at all.  Sigh.

Anyway, during the break between the films, the theatre showed a
preview for "Full Contact".  No, better make that FULL CONTACT.  If
the trailer is any indication, the film deserves all caps (and a
thundering bass riff, but I can't provide that over an ASCII link).

Hoo boy.

As far as I can tell, Chow Yun Fat hasn't played a street punk since
his role in "An Autumn's Tale".  He seems to be making up for lost
time in FULL CONTACT.  Denim, bandanas, the works.  Plus a spiky
haircut.  Let's see, what else is there?  Anthony Wong (the evil
UberBoss Johnny in "Hardboiled") also has a role.  There's erotic
dancing.  There's dog washing.  There are motorcycles.  If the
previews are any indication, Chow Yun Fat's character loses some of
the fingers on his right hand and spends several powerful scenes
learning to shoot left-handed.  All in all, Chow seems fully prepared
to once again back my claim that he is the God of Action Stars.

My questions: are the previews somehow misleading me, such that FULL
CONTACT is not the Film To See Or Drop Out Trying?  Also, is John Woo
the director?  There's this vague buzzing in my head saying ``Yes'',
but I'd like to know for sure.

Derek

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upham@cs.ubc.ca                                   Computer Science Department
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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Condorman..  anyone remember that?
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:02:44 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <BxGxzJ.HEA@acsu.buffalo.edu>, hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!) writes:
|> 
|> 	saw it when I was a wee lad, enjoyed it then never saw it since.

Its been on TV (ABC I think) several times. Amusing at times.

|> also: for a disney movie, did anyone else get seriously creeped by _Black
|> Hole_?  to this day it still gives me the willies.. 

No not really. It had its moments but quite derivative.
From: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Condorman..  anyone remem
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:33:00 GMT
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Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462
Reply-To: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 

>	saw it when I was a wee lad, enjoyed it then never saw it since.
>also: for a disney movie, did anyone else get seriously creeped by _Black
>Hole_?  to this day it still gives me the willies..

One of the worst movies ever made.  Disney invented a whole bunch of
new effects techniques to show the rest of the world how science
fiction should be done, then used an absolutely abysmal story to show
it off.

The ACES camera system (invented for the movie) beats the Dykstraflex
all hollow.
                     
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From: Richard.Holmes@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Basic Instinct has a 2nd-hand plot?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 03:50:06 GMT
Summary: WARNING - contains *naughty* language!!!

Did anyone watch Basic Instinct and think deja vu?  The main reason I was keen
to see it was because I quite liked Paul Verhoeven's "The Fourth Man".  Even
though the actual plots are quite different, the concept of "f__king with
death" (pardon my fr_nch!) is very much a central part of both of them, as well
as the ending to an extent.

Maybe Verhoeven (or the original writer) thought they had one hell of a theme,
which I would say they did IMVHO, and "remade" it very loosely in Hollywood to
give it a greater audience than the much earlier Dutch language film could
have ever really expected.  Especially with its sexual boldness: less bonking,
but the protagonist is bisexual if not gay, and scenes in the movie include a
wank (or "jerk off" pour les americains) while perving at a couple going
hammer and tongs, as well as a homosexual b__w-job.

Makes "Basic Instinct" seem a little less daring, no?

So does anyone know what exactly the plot connection is (ie is the writer the
same and what else has he done), or did anyone else notice this similarity at
all?

Blushing intensely, clean-spoken Richard.
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From: robertej@cs.aston.ac.uk (ThinkPix)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: the absolute worst movie of all time,
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:45:45 GMT
Reply-To: robertej@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)

In article 9341@cbnewse.cb.att.com, gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>In article <1dfn3dINNf17@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ce732@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven K. Wilcken) writes:
>>
>>A movie I would put in the running is "the Return of Captain Invincable."
>>This movie answers the age old question, Why don't you see Christopher Lee
>>in any musicals.  It would be just another cheesy superhero movie except
>>for the musical numbers.  Bad music and much too much of it.
>>
>
>I really was surprised by how funny this movie was.  Alan Arkin as the
>"Man of Magnet".  Very enjoyable, although with many flaws.
>
>GMS

The worst films ever made are Highlander II and anything with the word "Critters" in the title.

ThinkPix
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From: era_pul@arkimedes.ki.ericsson.se (Peter Ulfheden consultant)
Subject: Re: Call for votes: To reveal or not to reveal....
Organization: Ericsson Radio Sytems AB, Sweden
Distribution: alt.magic
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:24:20 GMT


> If you read this group (magician or not), if you even *LURK* on this group,
> or if you are just passing through, PLEASE respond to this post and let
> everyone here know that you exist.  I would like to determine the scope
> of the readers on this group for a potential FAQ.
>
> PART OF THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN:

Sweden

> MAGICIAN or LAYPERSON:

Layperson

> If Magician:  TYPE OF MAGIC:____________________
>               AGE:_____________
>               YEARS OF EXPERIENCE:_____________
>
> If Layperson: AGE:

34

>
>              WHY DO YOU READ THIS GROUP:
>

I would like to learn some magic so that I can entertain my kids, be a
funny guy at parties. Got hooked when I visited a magic show and was
taken on to stage and put on an electric chair! Have not had much time
to practice though. The trick my kids likes best is 'Hit the glass
trough the table' :-)

> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE ART OF MAGIC TO POST
> "INSIDER" INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE METHODS USED TO ACHIEVE
> A MAGICAL EFFECT:

No

> WHY/WHY NOT:

If some one really would like to get the insider information it IS
available through books and stores.  So the question is, if it is made
too easily obtainable here. I don't think that many people without at
least a slight intrest in magic reads this newsgroup. I'm sure the
hecklers don't. They are not that kind persons that takes their time
to thoroughly scrutinise a newsgroup in search for new possibilities
to heckle a magician.

> ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:_____________________________________________



Good idea this voting.

Peter
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