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From: nlatif@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Wolverine)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles playoff chances
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:01:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec15.201651.5612@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gideon Avrahami) writes:
>heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>>Conference record is printed with the standings in most daily papers. 
>
>And now you can have them in the comfort of your own terminal:
>
>====================================================================
>NFC :
>         tot           div     conf    home    road   points/game
> East
>  Dal   11  3 0.786    6  2    7  3    6  1    5  2    24.4  15.1
>  Phil   9  5 0.643    4  2    6  4    6  0    3  5    22.6  15.9
	                ^^^^
>  Wash   9  5 0.643    4  3    7  4    6  1    3  4    19.1  15.5
	                ^^^^
If the eagles won this week game against the 'Skins, wont they clinch the 
playoffs berth?, 'cause then if they were to lose against the Giants (which
is highly impossible), and the 'Skins won their last game against the Raiders,
they will still be ahead of the 'Skins in Div record (Eagles 5-3, 'Skins 4-4).

> Central
>  Minn   9  5 0.643    6  1    7  4    4  3    5  2    24.4  17.1

If the Eagles were to lose this week n win next week :

If Minnesota lost this week and the last week, they will surely be out of the
playoffs 'cause they will be 9-7.  Minnesota has got to win the Div. in order
to be in the playoff. A lost against the Steelers this week, will be very 
helpful to the Eagles (even though the eagles lose this week).  Let's say the
Packs win this week's game.  Minn. MUST win their last game against the 
Packs in order to be in the playoffs.  Green Bay lost (in the last week) will 
put the Eagles in the playoffs (Eagles 10-6 GB 9-7).  Minn. lost (in the last 
week) or GB win will also put the Eagles in the playoffs 'cause (Eagles 10-6, 
Minn 9-7, GB won the div title). The Packs lost this week will also put the 
Eagles in the playoffs cause the Packs cant afford another lost.

Therefore, the probability of the Eagles in the playoffs is still high even tho
they lost one more game.

>  GB     8  6 0.571    4  3    5  5    5  2    3  4    17.2  18.3

>=============================================================================

Again, this is as clearly as I can see.  But, again, correct me if I'm wrong.


GO EAGLES!!! (forever)
GO STEELERS!!!  (for this week against the Vikes)
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Roger Craig on George Seifert
Date: 19 Dec 92 15:54:42 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <29710117@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen) writes:
!(walid al-sabah) /  9:43 am  Dec 18, 1992 /
!From the L.A. Times of Thursday 12/17/92
!
!	Overrated? Even though San Francisco  49er Coach George   Seifert
!	has a 54-3 record, including a Super Bowl victory in 1990, former
!	running back  Roger  Craig  isn't that impressed  with  Seifert's
!	accomplishments.   "Look  at  him  with the talent he has," Craig
!	told the  San Francisco Chronicle. "Anybody can step in and do  a
!	good  job  in that system. It's not like he created  this big era
!	of what they're [49ers] doing. Bill  Walsh did that a  long  time
!	ago."
>
>Sure, it's no sweat to take over a championship team and continue the
>tradition.  I'm sure a lot of Packer fans can tell us about the
>tremendous success enjoyed by Phil Bengston, who took over for Lombardi.
>
>- Gary Rosen

For every bad example, there is a good counter-example:

- Rich Kotite (who wouldn't make ANYONE's list as a great head coach took
  over Buddy Ryan's Eagles and have taken them to a cumulative record of
  19-11. Not bad by any standards.

I'm not necessarily saying that it's easy to continue a winning tradition
(hell, as a GIANTS fan I'd be hard pressed to argue the opposite) just that
there's more to a football team than just the head coach.

satish nair
giants (5-11 in '92)
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Subject: Re: Barry Word?
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:22:51 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Dec18.113215.26378@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>, rainer@winx06.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoef writes:
>the problem is what do the entire team of the chiefs in this game. I can 't 
>understand how a team like the patriots could make 20 points against the great 
>chiefs. I hope the Deffence will change in the playoff . This is the opinion
>of disappointed chiefsfan from good old germany.
>
First off, for those wondering, Okoye will probably start the NYG game.

As for NE getting 20pts.  7 were off a fumble ret.  Another 6
were setup by another fumble recovered inside KC's 10(blocked
PAT).  Defense did a descent job.  I'm more disappointed in
the lack of offense.
--
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(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Where is Little ???
Date: 16 Dec 1992 15:18:57 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

There was a high school QB in Dickinson TX in the late 70's and early
80's he went to U of TX (I think), his name was Donny Little. 
If I remember correctly he went to the Pro's, Anyone know where
he is our what happened to him.

Thanks
tim


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From: jab55062@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The World Reknown Jason Boskey)
Subject: Odds for my pool as of 12/16
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:32:41 GMT

These are the odds for my superbowl pool so far.  If you feel the need to enter
the pool, please, join those already trying to prove their knowledge.  No that  is not a misprint, San Francisco is at 1-4.  If anyone is interested, please 
let me know via E-mail.  Thanx.



Team                                Odds        
San Francisco                       1-4
Dallas                              8-1 
New Orleans                        10-1
Buffalo                            25-1
Kansas City                        25-1
Miami                              25-1
Minnesota                          30-1
Green Bay                          30-1
Washington                         30-1
Philadelphia                       30-1
Houston                            30-1
Cleveland                          30-1
Indianapolis                       30-1
San Diego                          30-1
Denver                             30-1



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From: desouzmj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Mike)
Subject: Determining Schedules (was Re: Can Eagles still win NFC East?)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:16:02 GMT

In article <matjmm.724621390@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (J. Morgan Morris) writes:
> tehyang@aludra.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang) writes:
> 
> >It's still possible for the Eagles to win the NFC East. A very longshot, but
> >still possible. I think Atlanta has a good chance of beating the Cowboys. 
> 
> And monkeys might fly out of my butt...
> 
> (Geez, do I hope Dallas wins!!)
> 
> >Dallas already lost at home to another NFC West team, the Rams. 
> 
> Precisely why it's unlikely for them to lose to another one. I honestly
> think the Falcons are a worse team than the Rams. Hey, I live in 

Does anyone know how schedules for the next year are determined?
I had thought that the strength of next year's schedule was based on your record
If that is true then why do the Cowboys, who made the playoffs last year, play 
Atlanta and the Rams, who are in the bottom of the NFC WEST, while the Eagles
played San Francisco and New Orleans, the top two?


-- 
Michael de Souza
353 (Box 466) Tarkington Hall
Major: Engineering - I think!
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:40:15 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: hammond@grizzly.scd.ucar.edu (Steve Hammond)
Subject: Re: THIS IS WHERE I SAY "TOLD YA SO!"
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:01:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.191051.18269@stortek.com>, roush@stortek.com (Jeff Roush) writes:
> In article <1992Dec14.154026.2818@cnsvax.uwec.edu> bakerje@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
> >Well, well, well...
> >
> [stuff deleted]
> >
> >	C) Green Bay is very solid... they played poorly against a good
> >	   team on Sunday and still won. They have won 5 in a row (first
> >	   time since 1966), which makes them the hottest team in the NFL!
> 
> Hmmm... Big claim considering that San Diego has lost only 1 game in a
> span of twice as many games, and is likely to become the only team EVER
> to start 0-4 and make the playoffs (let alone possibly win their
> division).


Wait a second.  Before you start talking about how "hot" the chargers
are, don't forget that they are playing one of those parity (last place)
schedules.

In the first 4 weeks they played:
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS, at Denver Broncos, PITTSBURGH STEELERS,
and at Houston Oilers.  They lost all four of those and those
are the only teams that they have played that currently have winning 
records (except Elway-less Denver).

Since then, they have played SEATTLE SEAHAWKS, at Indianapolis Colts,
DENVER BRONCOS, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS, at Kansas City Chiefs, at Cleveland 
Browns, TAMPA BAY BUCCANNEERS, LOS ANGELES RAIDERS, at Phoenix Cardinals,
and the CINCINNATTI BENGALS.  This is *NOT* a tough schedule.  Granted,
they do have about the best record in the league since week four
but give me a break.  They built their record on a weak schedule.

    Steve H.





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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: UPdates - early FINALS
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:44:30 GMT

16th Week - FINALS

Kansas City	 21		NY Giants   35  * FINAL SATURDAY 
Tampa Bay  14			San Francisco  21  * FINAL SATURDAY 
LA Rams  13		 		Green Bay  28  * FINAL
Minnesota  6		 	Pittsburgh  3  * FINAL
Phoenix 13		 		Indianapolis  16   * FINAL
Washington	13	 		Philadelphia  17  * FINAL
Buffalo  20	 			New Orleans  16   * FINAL
Houston  17		 		Cleveland  14   * FINAL
New England  10	 		Cincinnati 20   * FINAL

Chicago  0	 			Detroit  13
San Diego  23			LA Raiders  0
		The Chargers are kicking some Raider Ass.
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: Their Offense Sucks, but their D reigns
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:46:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.202738.9942@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:
>WHAT! The Niners are about to punt the ball away.
>It is a shitty snap, the the punter has to attempt
>to run with the ball. He is tackled on the 4 yard line.
>The Vikings D does it again!  Vikings have a quick
>TD after 3 consecutive runs by ALLEN.
>
>Score:  4th quarter
>Niners  20  Vikings  20
>-- 
Oops mistake by me:
>Score:  4th quarter
>Niners  20  Vikings  17
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Miami (Eric learn how to spell, how did you get into college?)
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:13:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bz44t7.4M0@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v066pwk9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (BRUCE YAEGER) writes...
>In article <Bz2H9F.M8x@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes...
>>In article <1992Dec10.171153.12095@kronos.arc.nasa.gov>, blah@maas-neotek.arc.nasa.gov (MJW/TWF) writes...
>>>In article <Bz112y.JpM@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
>>>>In article <58NH03rJc2D500@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes...
>>>>>In article <sf8din600WBNA4HpgH@andrew.cmu.edu> yc25+@andrew.cmu.edu (Young-Soo Che) writes:
> 
>God Eric, you're not very intelligent after all.  How can you trash me
>when you can't even spell?
> 
>Bruce, a BIlls fan.
> 
> 
This may be a shock to you Bruce, but sometimes in people's haste, that's 
spelled H A S T E, they accidentally hit the run key on the keyboard.
Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand because your perfect, and the
Bills are the best team in football:)!!

You know, Bruce, I think you hit bottom with this one. Pointing out some typos
on my part is pretty pathetic on your part. If you couldn't find anything wrong
with my argument then you should've left it alone. Instead you made a fool of 
yourself! Next time do us all a favor and don't respond!!!

-- "And the quarterback is toast" - DieHard
    _____________________________________________________________________
   |   Miami Dolphins and Hurricanes:        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
   |   Two of the Best teams in Football!    * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
   |_____________________________________________________________________|
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:36:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Marcus Allen question
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

Its a sad day for the silver and black.  It used to be that Davis would 
get outcast players from other teams (Tooz, Alzado etc) and let them play
to their potential.  You rarely heard of any BS between Davis and the 
players.  Things were great.

Now Davis craps on a great player like Allen - a player forever etched in
my mind because of his magnificent TD cut-back run against the Skins in the
SB.  

Davis made his first mistake when he moved the team to LA.  His greed for $
made him forget about the chemistry in Oakland.  Davis has gone downhill
ever since and the team has been pulled down with him.  Long gone are the
wonderful players of old (Plunkett, Casper, Branch, Hayes, Hanes, Guy etc)
to be replaced by a bunch of losers (Shroeder) and retreads (Dickerson).
Davis is senile.  Where would we be now with Buerlein at QB?


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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: The Dynasty Continues..........
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:00:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.190045.42336@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>Well, let's see...  you say that I like to pick up arguments with you in
>groups I have allies, like r.s.football.pro.  Well, based on our notorious
>arguments in r.s.basketball.pro, I guess we add that group, as it should be
>obvious I had "allies" there as well.  
When I was arguing AGAINST the Celtics, who were your allies besides the 
Celtic fans 

>What about the r.s.football.college, where it seems I had some allies.  
What about r.s.football.college? like people responding your articles by: 

   "gee ... these are real intelligent comments", 
   "thanks asshole", 
   "stick a foot in your mouth and the other up your ass ..." 
   "Dave 'Lee Corso' Meeks ..." 
   "Does anyone out there realize he's wrong?"
   "Hey Dave, I think most people with a brain would say ....."

> Wanna guess the common thread here Ed...
No guess needed. Some despised person is faking that he has a lot of 
support in some other groups, and but only dare say it in an irrelevant 
group.

>In both of those groups, you supposedly "abused" me (in your opinion),
Yes, it's also your opinion that you "abused" me. I only know that you
wimped out in all flame wars, by saying "I am too smart to argue", 
after a month ....

>it seemed that many others thought you were abused, and funny enough,
Wow, it sounds like you actually did a survey with these "many others".
Do they include your family?

>it doesn't seem like we have to deal with you in those groups any more...
>Hmmm...  haven't been posting in either group lately, have you...
I haven't, because I haven't watched any basketball yet, and I am not
that into college football. Do you want to get a "flame war with Lor"
calender? 

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: dubear@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Dubear Kroening)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: What is a "Packer"? Viking fan wants to know
Date: 19 Dec 92 02:06:42 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Since not one of the replies so far has tried to answer the first question,
I'll give it a shot.  I believe that the term Packers is derived from a
large business in Green Bay, the Green Bay *Packaging* Co.  This was (I don't
know if it still is) an important Co. in Green Bay for many years.  My 
Grandfather worked at the Box Factory, which I believe is some sort of 
offshoot, as there are many paper product Co. in Green Bay (someone correct
me if I'm wrong).

I'm surprised no one mentioned anything about the fudge Packers (although my
grandmother worked for Gold Bond Ice Cream and they had some great fudge).

Believe me, only true fans (like me?) would still call the Packers their 
favorite team after their long drought (I wasn't really old enough to remeber
the Glory Years).

Wait till next year

Dubear
From: jwc@netxcom.netx.com (Jeff Comer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Super Bowl Repeater? Hmmm, don't think so....
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:52:35 GMT
Organization: The Chaos Bobs

dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>
>The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.

Apologies if I get the quoted text wrong above; this article has been pretty
beat up lately. We all know what happened: the Skins won on a weird play that
in retrospect, looks like a good call. I saw the replay last night about a
dozen times (it's all over the news here in DC), and with the TV sound off,
so I wouldn't be influenced by the TV slugs, it does appear that -

 a. Aikman was retracting the ball when it struck someone in the facemask,
    and fell loose, resulting in the first fumble; and
 b. Emmitt Smith was losing the ball as he was falling; it appears he did not
    have control when his left knee hit the ground, and as he was losing the
    ball, he tried to shovel it forward. I don't think he can be called down
    if he didn't have control of the ball.

Later, with the sound turned up, one TV slug said Smith's move may have been
called a forward pass or a "shovel" pass. I don't see this, as when he tried
to shovel the ball, it was already out of control. It might more properly be
called an illegally batted ball. In any case, had it been ruled a shovel pass, 
he probably would have been penalised, and I think a safety would have been
called.

It also seems doubtful that replay review would have reversed the call. Can
you say "inconclusive"?

In any case, the Washington O looks anemic. Given that they played close to 
the #1 or #2 defense in the league, I think they did well, but the Pokes are
certainly on a roll. For the Skins to repeat, they will almost certainly see
Dallas again.

Washington travels to the up-and-down Eagles this week, and will enter the 
playoffs on the road in Minnesota, Green Bay, or New Orleans. Skins fans will
dislike any of those, but two are indoors, and their kicker likes domes. If
they can't get anything together by this week in Philly, look for an early
exit. A bug guy like Riggs sure would have come in handy last Sunday on those 
3rd-and-short situations.

-JC
The NFL Mad Man
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From: rscott@ra.csc.ti.com (Roderick Scott)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:23:13 GMT

In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.


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