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From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: Fronnt Line Assembly: The Blade mini-album
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:45:02 GMT

According to the latest Rhythm M.O. catalogue, Front Line Assembly has just 
released a mini-album called The Blade. Does anyone know what's on it? Only 
remixes, or lots of new stuff??

Also, some of the old albums have been re-issued (in UK) as low price CD's 
(7.50 UKP) (Convergence, Gashed Senses... and Caustic Grip, and maybe more)


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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: tisue@athens.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue)
Subject: Re: Have the Mnemonists forgotten?
Organization: Plaster Cramp Press
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:22:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.190600.1@sscvx1.ssc.gov> schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:
>   Have the Mnemonists produced anything lately?

Do you mean the Mnemonists specifically as opposed to Biota, or is Biota
close enough?

Biota are still active; a lot of their stuff recently came out on CD
on Recommended/Cuneiform.  There's also a CD of new material, I forget
the title though.  They always credit the visuals to the Mnemonists.

Incidentally, the Biota CD's aren't too hard to find, but I've never
seen any old Mnemonists recordings anywhere... Does anyone know where
I might be able to obtain them?  I'd be especially interested in hearing
_Horde_.

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From: tim@normal.cosc.georgetown.edu (Tim Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Review: Dome - 3 & 4
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:30:32 GMT
Followup-To: tim@normal.georgetown.edu,rec.music.industrial
Organization: Georgetown University, Washington DC

In article <1992Sep10.122218.860@dutrun2.tudelft.nl> Al Crawford <awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk> reviews:
>Dome			3 & 4				Mute DOME 34 CD [UK]
>
>
>repetitive manner, ...
>...
>In fact, repetition is very much the order of the day here. Many of the
>...
>(with voices counting as percussion) repetition. These can be pretty tough
>...
>follows a similar progression from a fairly aggressive, repetitive
>...
>excellent, but the repetitive nature of the other tracks annoys almost as
>...
>of the album. It's repetitive in nature, yes, but very long indeed during
>...
>repetition might get to some people but it's certainly interesting to
>...
>repeat it continuously for four minutes. Repetitive structures *can* work
>...
>in the details are this minor and the repetition so...repetitive the end
>...
>nice start, but it's...yep, repetitively annoying again.
>...
>sound occasionally which means that while this song is also...the word
>begins with "r" and ends in "itive" it's got the same hypnotic appeal as
>listening to...well, listening to a printing press. ...
>carnivorous vegetables.
>...
>Year" it is, quite honestly, boring. Repetition isn't necessarily a bad
>...
>			Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
>                          ...

Al, sorry, but I couldn't resist "sampling" from your (excellent) review,
basing my posting on repetition.

Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review! Thanks for the review!

Thanks!  (What is the width of this band, anyway?)
 Tim

 Timothy Law Snyder
 Department of Computer Science
 Reiss 225
 Georgetown University
 Washington, DC 20057

tim@normal.georgetown.edu
(202) 687-6208
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:10:39 -0400 
From: Edward Sokhyon Pak <ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: underground??? CC:
	<BuE4zK.82G@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>

I'm sorry.... I didn't mean to sound "I'm more industrial than thou". 
It's just that people limit themselves and think that they know so much,
and I'm just as guilty too... so I geuss no matter how I present the
question of who listens to what everybody is not listening to... then I
sound like a "I'm more industrial then you"type ?     and anyway, if
"IT's" (?) so dead, why are you still reading an "InDUSTRIAL" board?   
    I don't know.... maybe because I just left NEW YORK and miss the
scene a lot.  I've been to CHICAGO, and their club scene is good... but
I still think that NEW YORK has one of the best INDUSTRIAL/TECHNO
scenes... I don't know much about LA... excep[t it's goth crazy....  
    DOES ANYONE LISTEN TO MACHINERY, ENERGY, ZOTH OMMOG,NEW ZONE stuff?
or other labels...?




( I look pathetic? why? explain it to me?... Do you have an eyelid-ring
or a lot of tattoos and think that everyone is pathetic and YOU're so
industrial?  Maybe you are? i don't know?  Are you from NEW YORK also or
are you from suburbiatown in OHIO?  I don't know?  so I guess I can't
make any statements about you...so I guess I'll get over it.....  get
over it..... get over it...  get. ov....i.....



I'm PATHETIC......and I'm GAY......so what?  do you hate me now?
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: johnerik@ifi.uio.no (John-Erik Bye Johansen)
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy cancels Copenhagen concert.... WHY ??!!??
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:09:32 GMT
Originator: johnerik@sognsvann.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Sep5.140440.19687@ifi.uio.no>, larsi@ifi.uio.no (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen) writes:
> 
> >I have been looking forward to the Skinny Puppy concert in Copenhagen
> >(september 1.), but it was canceled. Does anybody know why?...
> 
> The concert that was supposed to take place in Oslo on the third was
> also cancelled, "due to sickness". Does anybody know who's taken ill? 
> 
> -- 
> A moment of static, dangling wires, broken connections...
>   larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Their whole European tour has been cancelled cause apparently
Kevin broke a leg...

Now does anyone know if it'll be rescheduled?

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: payne@ecf.toronto.edu (PAYNE DENISE JOYCE)
Subject: matthew calling others pretentious
Keywords: Crash Worship
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 08:12:05 GMT

In article <Bu1JEz.HLK@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> 
matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
>
>Oops,  Mason, I forgot... you don't.
>You're too cool to think.  Too many
>Japanese Industrial Bands to worry
>about.  Too many drum patterns to 
>program.
>
>
>God, you are a geek.
>
>>
>>  
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
>>             Mason Jones           Charnel House Productions
>>             P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco 94117-0277 U.S.A.
>>   ...{uunet,sun}!hoptoad!dante!mason   or   
dante!mason@hop.toad.com
>>  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>And I forgot 'pretentious'.
 
Mason's pretentious? So be it. I think he's got a reason to be. 
However, just by putting his .sig in there doesn't mean he is.
 
He DOES run a record label. And it IS industrial (** IN MANY PEOPLE'S
OPINIONS ITS INDUSTRIAL MEBBE NOT YOURS **).
 
He does alot for independant (!= indie) bands who make that kind of 
music, and he promotes these bands on tours of the US if they're from Japan,
or in Japan if they're from the US. He's doing that right now. He's
presenting a couple of bands from the US on a Japanese tour right 
now, including his own band. I think this is great.
 
He's also setting things up for Crash Worship to play Albany (they 
cant make it into Canada). I'm definitely going to see that, as Cop 
Shoot Cop is opening. He set that up. I think that's fucking great. If Mason 
wants to be pretentious about it, I think he's earned it. 
 
What the fuck have YOU done cept be a total asshole on this 
newsgroup and call others out when they've EARNED what YOU think they're saying?
 
/kc
sizone!matt_isnt_industrial_no_way@ee.ryerson.ca
via payne@ecf.toronto.edu
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From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Homophobia? What the fuck... (Was: Moshing? What the fuck...)
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:16:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <9209039577@zone4.ocunix.on.ca> david@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (David Stimson) writes:
>
>So, in other words you are equating gays with being "stupid,dumb,fucking
>idiot"???
>
yes they are

but...

>I'm sorry, but Michael Wasson is right...even though it is a common slang
>word, it is still homophobic.  

NO its NOT _homophobic_! Homoignorant maybe 
but ignorance does not equal fear and using the term
homophobic improperly is just as bad as using the term
gay improperly
(even though the term gay bugs me, its not really the gay population's
fault that they got the name, but it would be nice if it were changed
to something that wasnt a common word in the english language)
(ie lesbian)

NOT THAT ANY OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH INDUSTRIAL MUSIC
but isnt r.m.i=rec.wasted.bandwidth?
--
If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
much softer place.
				   ,
IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: RE:Re: Comparison to LPD? 
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:15:03 CST
 Aug31.105214.83@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> <ALFARRIS.92Sep6163207@rodan.syr.EDU>
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <ALFARRIS.92Sep6163207@rodan.syr.EDU>, alfarris@rodan.syr.EDU (Fraktur) writes:
> I got a copy of 'Tired Eyes Slowly Burning' about a year ago, and I bought
> 'LMtF' on disc and Ed Ka-spel's 'Tanith..' when it came out a few months ago
> This is some of the most delightfully trancful sound I've heard ever. I've
> never managed to pick up any LPD however. I was wondering how the sounds of
> LPD compares to these albums, and which LPD would be good to start off with
> (I've only heard one song by them I believe, off the play it again sampler #6
> called 'Princess Coldheart' ; was an amazing song) 

FC9.. "princess coldheart" is most probably off of "Velvet Crush Apocalypse"
FC9.. which is along the same lines as "Tanith and the Lion Tree", very 
FC9.. unconventional, experimental instrumentation, and it would be very good
FC9.. to start off with since you are familiar with it(IMHO it's the best LPD
FC9.. phase)
FC9.. I also possess "any day now", "the maria dimension", "greetings9,
FC9.. premonition11(not quite sure if it is the correct name)","lovers"
FC9.. and a couple of others I cant think of this moment.
FC9.. and each one is very different from the others "lovers" is more live
FC9.. sounding(kindda like "LMtF" but not quite as good".

> The whole psychedelic nature of the album is reminicient
> of this era of music. Are there any other songs on the album that relate
> strongly to titles of older songs? (Turn me on dead man perhaps?) 
> (I realize of course that this isn't the bast place to ask this question :)

FC9.. oh but it is the right place.  Ka'Spel has influenced so many
FC9.. "industrial"names; Ogre to start with(I am not sure if OG admits it but he
FC9.. sure sounds like him in quite a few places, not to mention those twisted
FC9.. knowingly demented, absurdist(kindda) lyrics)
FC9.. Ka'Spel might be reffering to Jim Morrison or perhaps Syd Barett on the
FC9.. said song don't you think?
FC9.. hope it helps

an offering of love 
from flesh chamber9
From: williams8572@iscsvax.uni.edu (fEAR AND lOATHING IN cEDAR fALLS)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: FLA took my baby away
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:18:04 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hello neighbors!
   I went and saw FLA at Chicago and they were not half bad.  Whoever that
opening band was (Constantinople?) they were far from impressive in my opinion. 
They sounded like NE on a horrible day, so that has to tell you something.  The
drummer might as well of mailed his beats in because they stayed the same
through the whole set and the last song (as one netter has previously pointed
out) had the classic chorus of "Fuck you!", "Fuck you!", and (you guessed it)
"Fuck you!".  Classic.  Not worth it.  Is there a cure  to their world
contamination tour?  Lets hope so.
   FLA came on and right off the bat their video displays were killer, pushing
my hopes up.  But, as their set went on, they played less and less on the synth
and just poundrd on pads and a few regular drums.  I really hate that.  All
those nice synths up there and none of them being used, I felt I was watching
a Jane Fonda workout tape going on over a drum corps and a FLA greatest hits
disc.  Don't get me wrong, I really like FLA and they had the Metro rigged to
the hilt sonically and visually, but I just wish they would have played a bit
more live, but it just wasn't to be.  Does anybody else feel this way?  Was I
missing something?  Of course, I was tripping so maybe things were not as they
seemed to me.
   Overall, I would say it was still a pretty decent show, hell I had a good
time.  It made me start wanting SP to come back around though.  
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette)
Subject: Re: Is Trent dead?   NIN
Organization: PennState - Fayette Campus Computer Center
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 17:51:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.064956.15056@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> sherlock@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHERLOCK  JASON ARCHER) writes:
>  Really, who cares if Trent is dead or not?  What has he done
>for the "industrial" music scene?  Three good songs (Head Like A Hole, 
>Get down Make Love, and Suck) and alot of "pop" bullshit.  What
>about the shit he said about Front Line Assembly in Spin magazine?
> Calling their music "uninspired bullshit."  Perhapse if he had a 
>little more experiance makeing QUALITY ORIGIONAL music I would
>accept his criticisms, but until then it is my opinion that Trent
>is raping and selling out the "Industrial" music scene.
>
>                                    Lupo
>                  ****W.O.A.R.T. Faction Inc. will rule the world****
>

Remember Trent never claimed to be an industrial artist (just as Al and Paul of
Ministry, and Sasha and En Esch of KMDFM never claimed to be industrial).  In
fact most of these people go off on whether they are truely industrial or not
even go as far themselves to say they are not industrial.  So why does he have
any *nned* to do anythign for the industrial scene.  And while you are bitching
about Trent having his own opinion next time think before you go on to state
yours, if you are allowed to have yours is he not allowed to have his also?
Just because he's in the public eye isn't he allowed to have his own opinion
and to very well be wrong if he chooses :)

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Subject: Re: matthew calling others pretentious
Followup-To: payne@ecf.toronto.edu 
Keywords: Crash Worship
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: World
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:38:34 GMT

In article <Bu3Is5.7Cr@ecf.toronto.edu> payne@ecf.toronto.edu (PAYNE DENISE JOYCE) writes:
>He DOES run a record label. And it IS industrial (** IN MANY PEOPLE'S
>OPINIONS ITS INDUSTRIAL MEBBE NOT YOURS **).

I personally don't think that the fact that Mason's record label is
industrial (and I grant you that it IS, for sake of argument) is
a good thing.

Personal Opinion, of course.


>He does alot for independant (!= indie) bands who make that kind of 
>music, and he promotes these bands on tours of the US if they're from Japan,
>or in Japan if they're from the US. He's doing that right now. He's
>presenting a couple of bands from the US on a Japanese tour right 
>now, including his own band. I think this is great.
> 

I wish there were FEWER industrial bands.  The more crowded the
market becomes, the less "original" the subject material.

>He's also setting things up for Crash Worship to play Albany (they 
>cant make it into Canada). I'm definitely going to see that, as Cop 
>Shoot Cop is opening. He set that up. I think that's fucking great. If Mason 
>wants to be pretentious about it, I think he's earned it. 

I am happy that this pleases you, and to tell the truth,
I would probably even go to the event.  You see, I _like_ 
Cop Shoot Cop, despite their painfully seventh-grade-socialism
rhetoric.  Musically, they aren't half bad.

>What the fuck have YOU done cept be a total asshole on this 
>newsgroup and call others out when they've EARNED what YOU think they're saying?
> 

I don't have to do anything.  I never claimed I have done
anything.  That's what pretense is all about, Ken.
Claiming you've done something worthwhile, when in actuality,
you have done nothing worth mentioning.

If I claim that, call me on it.

>/kc
>sizone!matt_isnt_industrial_no_way@ee.ryerson.ca
        ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^
	Thank you.  This is a definite compliment.

>via payne@ecf.toronto.edu
>-- 


Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu, bp271@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From: thilo@bazooka.amb.org (Thilo Koenig)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What song is this: Nitzer Ebb
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:17:54 GMT
Reply-To: thilo@bazooka.amb.org (Thilo Koenig)
Organization: AMB Research Labs, Sunnyvale, CA.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my query.  I went and found a copy
of _That Total Age_.  Pretty cool...

Thilo
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.cyberpunk
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Subject: Re: FLA video-wall
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:23:27 GMT

coan@griffin  writes:
> Well, I got to see Front Line Assembly in Boston on Saturday night. It
> was only $7.00! That was cool. Awesome show, at least 90min long!
> 
> Anyway, the 4x4 screen video wall was really cool. I was wondering, who
> put that together?

I'd assume it was H-Gun, the Chicago video making outfit that's
responsible for most of the "industrial" stuff, mainly Wax Trax
(tho FLA isn't on that label anymore, they probably still work
with H-Gun).
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   "Happiness might very well be a glandular condition." - David Cronenberg
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Young Industrial Defenders of the Mother Tongue, Unite....
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:17:47 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:
>but dont misuse words, (like gay is misused, IMNSFHO)
>cuz that really leads to the destruction of the language
>not to mention creating an ambiguity that makes
>communication impossible

What is it that sounds the clarion in the hearts of those reading
this post? Is it the spelling? The syntax? The punctuation? The bold
opinion that language can be "destroyed?" The stunning addition
of the "F" to IMNSHO? The dire mention of demon ambiguity which
"makes communication impossible?" [Dana's been reading Calvin and
Hobbes last week, I'll wager. It was totally Spam....] Quick, mes
petits - to the barricades! The gay, mad whirl has been well and
good, but the redoubts of language are being stormed by unwashed
people we've never seen before, and they're all wearing Nine Inch
Nails T-shirts. They are screaming exclusionary codes of indeterminate
meaning at us, too. How naughty.

And some folks wonder why we bother to continue reading....

P.S. You should all go out and buy Derek Bailey's recent Incus CD
"Guitar Solos, Vol. 2" and play it really loud to drown out the
screaming in this newsgroup. Really. He's old enough to be your dad,
and knows his noise like you know the orthodoxy of r.m.i.

--
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tune for each ship. Freedom has nothing to do with control and control nothing
to do with my weak heart lonely for its birthday and the excitement of pure
sunlight and of snow parting into countless buoyant shapes over the airfield.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young)
Subject: Re: Re: Homophobia? What the fuck.....
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:02:26 GMT

>>>MICHAEL WASSON WRITES:
>>>>Not that I'm the PC police or anything but just so that when some Queer
>>>>Nation activist pounds you into the asphalt you don't say I didn't warn
>>>>you to be more careful about parading your narrow mind in public.
>>>>
    The only thing they'll pound is each others Poop-Chutes!!!
>>> 
>> Who are "we" that `you' proclaim to speak for: a group
>> tending towards zero in significance. No one needs get
>> used to it because in the big world out there, your
>> "slang" meaning will hardly be heard in use again.
>> 
***That's right,Noah.Didn't you know this is the age of Heterophobic
Aggression!!These fags are so scared that they'll get an ass infection
that they have to cry homophobe at every little thing.

THE WE THAT NOAH IS TALKING ABOUT IS THE H.A.H.S.B.F.L.U.
commonly known as:
H.etero's A.against H.eterophobic S.lander B.y F.ags L.ike U.

.....Suck a dick...it's the only thing you're good for!!!
			THE POPE

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson)
Subject: Re: Slug Bait Lyrics Please
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:13:23 GMT

Ok, does anybody have the lyrics to the really half-good-or-so
'song' "Slug Bait" by Throbbing Gristle, known to have produced
both better and worse songs?

/Par