From: wggray@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Wild Bill)
Subject: Re: Wolfenstein and Spear of Destiny with heroic neofascism
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:16:14 EST

In article <1992Dec14.175541.7224@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> Hermann.Goehler@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Hermann Goehler) writes:
>Dear Adventurer,
>
>  do you always think about humanism an moral?
>  The question - which game is better "Ultima Underworld" or
>  "Wolfenstein & the spirit ... of trash" - is simple to
>  answer.
>  "Wolfenstein .." is a stupid game with a stupid idea an
>   trashing fun.
>  The really question is "Shows this game heroic fascism ?".
>
>  I mean it should be verbosen.
>
>  I have pruned it from my harddisc. You should really play
>  funny adventures like Kings Quest VI from Sierra and not
>  so silly games.
>
>
>  Think about it.
>
>
>	 Against heroic fascism !!!

	Well, I have to reply to this, even though you may no like
	my answer. First, word of explanation. A couple of days ago
	I got into an argument with one Hans Ulrich from Germany,
	and things got nasty and bad things were said, and I wish
	I could have saved his E-mail address to offer an apology,
	but I erased it before I had time to think. -Anyway, about
	the game. Many people find the game appealing, for some
	greatly varied reasons: Those of us who don't find
	excessive violence appealing in real life, can use this
	game to blow off steam, and dangerous (but human) inclinations
	toward violence are satisfied without anyone getting hurt.
	I realize that anyone of a German background may not
	particularly like the idea behind this game--this is
	understandable, but seeing as the majority (the great
	majority) of Germans today are not Nazis. they shouldn't
	take offense, at least, we don't mean any when we play the game.
	There are neo-Nazis right here in the U.S.A., whose ideas
	I greatly despise, and I get out my frustrations, in one
	way, by playing the game, so as not to do something stupid
	in real life. Don't get me wrong, I probably wouldn't do
	anything stupid for real, but it just lets me let off
	steam in a (convenient) way when they get me down. This
	current problem of neo-Nazis in Germany (or anywhere else)
	shouldn't be dealt with violence, but with understanding
	of the position these people are in socially and
	economically, and they should be councelled and treated
	accordingly, with little or no violence in the process.
        Hopefully, most of us playing the game realize that the
	Nazis were not monsters, but disillusioned and deceived
	-people-. America is guilt of crimes just as heinous
	as the gassing of millions of Jews, like the killing of
	hundreds of millions(this figure is correct) of Africans
	who were kidnapped from Africa, most of which died on the
	way over to America, and then the cruelty and mistreatment
	in America that I'll bet the Nazis took ideas from.
	--I hope this clears up some of the enigmas around playing
	the games, and keeps people from throwing stones in glass
	houses (sorry about the argument Hans).
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