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Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 22:25:43 +01
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MTU, more generally (was for SLIP)
From: Andre' Pirard <pirard@vm1.ulg.ac.be>
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Organization: Universite' de Lie`ge (Belgium)

In article <BxvvyE.L3F@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM> John F. Woods,
jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM writes:
>1006 is the "standard" MTU for SLIP.  The original BSD implementation
will
>break if handed a packet longer than 1006 bytes.  It should be 1006
bytes.

Here's another important observation about MTU.

It is a very strange discovery I've just made while debugging a problem
with PCROUTE. PCROUTE is connecting Localtalk to Ethernet and FTP packets
are
going that way. Under certain circumstances, throughput goes
exponentially down.
What I am observing on Ethernet is sequences of _fragmented_ packets of
size
572 and 396 at random (I mean a random 2 to 7 * 572 interspersed with 1 *
396).
Same experiment with an Etherroute shows a steady pattern of 2 * 572 + 1
* 396
(and no slowdown).
It seems clear that PCROUTE looses packets, and I still have to find why,
but...

What is the MTU _on Localtalk_  (and can it be controlled with plain
MacTCP)?
Which of MacTCP or PCROUTE is segmenting the packets that way?
I refuse to imagine that MacTCP would send segments, being the origin of
the packets.
Yet, I am in doubt that both PCROUTE and Etherroute would fragment the
same way packets that would fit on Ethernet's MTU, unless I am mistaken,
(2 * 572 + 1 * 396 - headers < 1500 - headers).

So what?

MTU is important on SLIP indeed, as the longer the packets the more
errors they
suffer (and, with CSLIP, headers become less important).
But fragmenting packets is never a good idea, because loosing one,
whatever the reason, looses the whole batch.
If, for SLIP, setting a low MTU generates fragments, there's no use to
lower it.
A common good practice is to send packets of the minimum MTU (572) when
the
destination is not the local net.
I am not sure how MacTCP determines MTU. The Farallon software that
PCROUTE
uses in the PC to drive the Localtalk card comes with a standard setup of
10 603-bytes buffers (the minimum for Lt, they say). Does this affect
MacTCP's
calculation of an MTU (or are bigger Lt packets split in these buffers on
reception?).

In summary:
- What is the MTU of Appletalk on Localtalk? Is it negociated?
- What is MacTCP MTU, can it be controlled in MacTCP or best in
Farallon's software?

Thanks a lot in advance for more insight helping everybody and my nasty
problem.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Subject: Re: modem question
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:37:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.013301.17734@news.mentorg.com> gam@sun_jimh.mentorg.com (Gary Merrick) writes:
>I am posting this for a friend. Please respond via email to
>david_liu.san_jose_02@pdxml1.mentorg.com.
>
>Are well-known brands of modems worth the price?
>
>I have noticed a considerable price difference between
>the "big name" brands of modems (like Hayes & Telebit),
>and the lesser-known ones with similar capabilities.
>Are there any advantages to paying extra money for a
>big name brand of modem?
>
>Two modems I'm presently considering purchasing are the
>Logicode Quicktel 1414XV, and a similar one from Boca.
>If anybody thinks this would be a poor choice, please
>let me know.
>
>Thanks in advance.


	Just a general rule of thumb about full-featured modems:  The more
features, the more trouble modems have connecting.  Not only do they have
to decide on the buad rate, but the error correction and the compression.
Some modems are better at this than others. You can work around this from
software -- by feeding in an init string that will force it to connect 
properly.  Basically, you pay for a cheap modem in time spent on these issues.
And of course, most modem makers don't really do tech support or have manuals
written in English.

	On the other hand, if you're technically literate, and willing to
learn the extended AT command set for your modem, you can save some money.
They're not likely to actually burn up or die within the week (or at least
not any more likely, I should say).

	With a name brand modem, even a cheap one, you're also likely to
get better compatability with your software app.  To use MicroPhone as an
example, we supply (and have more on our BBS) a bunch of modem drivers to
feed your modem an init string to force the issue.  But if you've got a
HumperDink 2500 EXA, you may be out of luck.  The same kinds of issues apply
to other programs as well, of course.  In Tech Support, they'll be more likely
to know exactly how to turn off mode X instead of refering you to your manual.

	These are pretty sweeping generalities, and I'm sure there are
exceptions (Supra and Intel deliver good bang for the buck) but basically
you can assume that the cheaper the modem, the bigger the time investment.

Doug
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From: rvirta@utu.fi (Risto Virtanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Hyde Park's Macslip
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:59:01 GMT
Organization: Turku School of Economics
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:07:04 GMT
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In article <elevenson-161192095604@132.197.14.15> Ernie Levenson,
elevenson@gte.com writes:
>Could someone please email me or post to this group the address and
>telephone number of Hyde Park.  Thanks!
From MacSLIP User's Manual:
P.O. Box 7133
Austin, TX 78713
Email: info@hydepark.com
(512) 454-1170

It's marketed by TriSoft
25 E. 38 1/2 St., Suite 202
Austin, Texas 78722
(512) 472-0744

I'm just a customer...
From: cljackso@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris L Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: networking
Keywords: Mac/Next
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:38:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: constell.Bxvz3s.I3x
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA


I am tring to network a NeXT 040 cube with a Macintosh Quadra 950..  I need to
know how to do the local configuration in the NetMgr, basically, I have no idea
what I am doing..  I have the 14 pin connector/transciever for the quadra, it's
got the thin coax cable connector running to the Next..
 
As for the Mac, I need to know if I will need additional software, if so what..
If not, How do I configure what I have???  I downloaded the software NCSA/BYU
Telnet 2.5..  All help would be great.
 
 
__________________________________________________________
clj@okcforum.uoknor.edu or cljackso@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu
(405)755-7622
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: Karim_Remu@magicbb.uucp
Organization: MAGIC - Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:36:58 EST
Subject: FTP Question

matthews@datil.dartmouth.edu

> Karim *

>>Hi,

>>The address is Fetch@dartmouth.edu.  What's your question?

>>Jim Matthews
>>Fetch Author
>>Dartmouth Software Development

Hi Jim,

  I'm using Fetch on a local internet. I grab a specific file every time I
logon, it's the only thing I do. I was wondering if there was a way to create
a script to automate the download. I just want to start the program and have
it grab the file automatically. Thanks for the help. My compliments on an
excellent and well programmed utility.

Karim R.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: vmp@pathfinder.JPL.NASA.gov (Vincent Pollmeier)
Subject: Software for Old AppleFax modem
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA/Caltech
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:07:01 GMT

I have inherited from another user an old AppleFax modem (circa 1988).  None of the software that came with it is System 7 compatible.  Does anyone know of a good piece of fax software that is compatible with this modem and supports system 7.0.1?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: gio@edgeway.wimsey.bc.ca (Dom Giovannangeli)
Organization: EdgeWays! InfoLink - A FirstClass GUI BBS - "The Edge of Communications and GateWays to the World." North Vancouver, BC Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:59:44 PST
Subject: Re: Fax software that do OCR?

Is there any fax program that can translate an incoming document (bitmap) 
to letters that a word processor can understand?

I think most good fax software (like that for the Abaton) can convert the fax
into a TIFF file, which can then be read by an OCR program (like Omnipage) and
converted into your choice of wordpro file. The new Omnipage Direct somehow
reduces the number of steps involved.

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From: ucess2j@ucl.ac.uk (Dr Jaroslav Stark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Direct connection to LaserWriter
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:55:44 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London

If you just want to connect a single Mac to a LaserWriter (using AppleTalk)
is it Ok to just use an ordinary cable rather than buying expensive 
LocalTalk connectors?? It works (I just tried it) but is there any danger
of damaging the ports?

thanks

jaroslav stark

(j.stark@ucl.ac.uk)
From: sergeb@cco.caltech.edu (Serge J. Belongie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Tek window problem on SE
Date: 21 Nov 1992 04:34:15 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

I have a Mac SE and I am running Telnet 2.5, which runs great except
for one thing: the Tektronix graphics window, for some reason, only
pops up half the size of what it should be, but otherwise works fine.
Running Telnet with the same config.tel file on a IIci makes the
problem go away; the Tek window is full size.  Has anyone else had
this problem?  Is it something peculiar to the SE?

Please send e-mail replies.  Thanks in aadvance.

				--Serge Belongie

Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: cmu.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:09:40 -0500 
From: "H. Scott Matthews" <hm0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: MacTCP / SLIP problems

I have been testing hyde Park's MacSLip to access the local slip server.
 However, after suing it successfully for about a month, now when I
boot, I get a bomb when loading MacTCP, and a dialog appears which tells
me MacTCP bombed due to an unimplemented trap.

This doesnt make any sense to me since I had been using it with no
problems the day before...

important info:

system 7.0 with tuneup

any ideas?

scott

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: golub@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Robert Golub)
Subject: MTU on MacSLIP?/Transmission speed
Followup-To: golub@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:43:21 GMT

I'm switching over from Microphone II to MacSLIP and have two questions:
1) MacSLIP has something called MTU which has a default setting of 1500.
What is MTU, and what should the setting be?

2) I'm using a 9600 V.32/V.42 bis modem, with what I think is the correct
initialization code (it works properly on Microphone), but when I do file
transfer such as FTP with Fetch, the maximum transfer rate is only around
900 bps. I have the computer speed set at 38400 with MacSLIP. With
Microphone I'm able to transfer up to 2200 bps. Any ideas?

If possible, please answer by e-mail.
Thanks in advance for your help!

-Rob


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From: weave@apache.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees & Eudora
Date: 17 Nov 1992 05:51:42 -0500
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
NNTP-Posting-Host: apache.dtcc.edu
Summary: So what?

Hmmm, wait a minute....

If it is true that the new MacTCP can be had for $25, as a previous poster
mentioned that he just got it for, then what is the big deal?

It is clear that Apple has reduced system prices by more than $25 per
machine, so whenever you buy a computer, just throw in an extra $25 for
MacTCP. 

The only painful part is upgrading hundreds or thousands of copies of
version 1.  Apple should provide a cheap upgrade path for existing
licensed copies.

-- 
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 Bright images flashing by, Like windshields towards a fly
 Frozen in the fatal climb -- But the wheels of time, just pass you by"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dmanning@arlo.UVic.CA (David  Manning)
Subject: Help!!! Bad DNS lookups on a PB145
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 23:31:43 GMT

	Help! I am running MacTCP and MacSLIP on a PB145 to use Eudora (1.2.2)
and MacGopher. The PB keeps getting (seemingly at random) 0.0.0.0 as 
the results of its DNS lookups. There is no pattern (that I can see) to 
these problems. I have tried bot MacTCP 1.1 and MacTCP 1.1.1. If anyone
has heard of this problem or has any ideas I would REALLY appreciate the help.
I am out of ideas. 


				Thanks in advance,

				Dave Manning

				damnning@nero.UVic.CA


P.S. The DNS servers work well. We are using them on a lot of other
hosts and never have tyhis kind of problem. The SLIP/TCP combo is also in
use here and only gives us problems on this computer.



				Dave
From: jwas_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jason Wasson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Zterm and ROLM phones
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:55:57 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


Does anyone know how to get Zterm .90 to work with a ROLM phone system?
BTW, ROLM phones are digital so you don't need a modem and the paticular 
phone I will be using has a serial port on it that gives me a live data line
to the mainframe.  I tried using the Hayes AT command for auto-answering but
that didn't work (I didn't think it would ;)

Any help would be appreciated,

						-Jason Wasson
					jwas_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

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                       jwas_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: richs@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Rich Spiegel, (301)953-5000, x7627)
Subject: Re: Supra modem
Reply-To: richs@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Rich Spiegel, (301)953-5000, x7627)
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Applied Physics Lab
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:50:29 GMT

	Supra just sent me info about getting their current Caller-ID
	upgrade, and in it they mention that a voice capable upgrade
	will be coming out in December for $69.95.  I'm not sure what
	they will charge for the new modem release itself.

	Rich Spiegel	
	JHU/APL
	Johns Hopkins Road
	Laurel, Md. 20723

NDM Group
Johns Hopkins Road
Laurel, Md 20723
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: eric@cs.ruu.nl (Eric Nieuwland)
Subject: MacTCP port number allocation
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:56:29 GMT
Organization: SERC/RUU
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm

Problems, problems, problems...

We have some Macs with EtherNet connections and MacTCP. On our local
network
we can ftp with Fetch and NCSA Telnet as we like. However, as we get off
our
local string and try to connect to the big world nothing happens.

The problem seems this:
Our system administrators have configured our gateway to pass only packets
directed to ports with numbers < 5000. (For security reasons, they say)
The Macs seem allocate port numbers in the 40000+ range.

Question:
Is there a way to convince the Mac to allocate port numbers < 5000 ?

--eric@cs.ruu.nl
From: Mike_Peters@vos.stratus.com (Mike Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: YMODEM for comm toolbox
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:25:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: 134.Mike_Peters-171192132632
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kohlsranch.az.stratus.com

Is there a YMODEM tool for the comm toolbox?

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From: pnm@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Paul Big-Ears Menon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees & Eudora
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:40:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT)
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X-XXDate: Mon, 16 Nov 92 20:24:00 GMT

In article <15903@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> Paul Big-Ears Menon,
pnm@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au writes:
>PS: As for MacTCP - I hear the site license (someone else read the
>fine print) means you have to sell your soul to Apple.  That is, you
>have to give Apple the rights to a comms package you're developing.
>As the Apple person (so I hear) said (paraphrased),
>
>	"Don't worry, we'll never call that marker in, just sign..."

I'd like to correct this and apologise for providing misleading
information.  After being in contact with Apple Computer & the person who
initially read this agreement, the above is incorrect.  Apple does NOT
lay claim to any devloped SW which uses MacTCP - Not with the MacTCP
license anyway.

However, this doesn't change the facts, which are:
    *	If you're a University, it will cost you $4,000 per year for
    	the privilege that most other sites on the Internet take for
	granted - TCP/IP.
	
    *	If you wish to procure a MacX license, it will cost you $150,000.
     	How many universities can afford $150,000 for a software license?

    *	If you already have a MacX license and wish to continue being a
    	licensee, it will ONLY cost you a mere $25,000.  Gee, this is a
	bargain.  How can we resist?

    *	Of course, who knows when Racketeers Inc will knock
    	on licensee's doors for another 'donation'.  Perhaps when the next
	version arrives?   It took 2 years for us to go from a $2,500 
	donation to $25,000.
	

Paul Menon
pnm@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au
Computer Science, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology,
124 La Trobe Street, Melbourne, Victoria 3001, Australia
Ph: +61 3 660 - 3209/2348	Fx: +61 3 662 1617
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 08:58:02 +01
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MTU, more generally (was for SLIP)
From: Andre' Pirard <pirard@vm1.ulg.ac.be>
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Organization: Universite' de Lie`ge (Belgium)

In article <19921119.222543855016.NETNEWS@BLEKUL11> Andre' Pirard,
pirard@vm1.ulg.ac.be writes:
>It is a very strange discovery I've just made while debugging a problem
>with PCROUTE. PCROUTE is connecting Localtalk to Ethernet and FTP packets
>are going that way. Under certain circumstances, throughput goes
>exponentially down.
>What I am observing on Ethernet is sequences of _fragmented_ packets of
size
>572 and 396 at random (I mean a random 2 to 7 * 572 interspersed with 1 *
>396).

After experiments with EtherRoute, I am almost sure of the following, now:
1) MTU on localtalk is 603.
2) Despite this, MacTCP seems to use a TCP segment size of [probably]
1500.
3) And its own IP fragments these 1500-byte datagrams into 572 and less
packets. This is an extraordinarily bad idea.
4) If it does the same on SLIP, there's no use to try to adjust MTU.
5) in PCROUTE -- and probably caused by Farallon's Software of which
PCROUTE is a client -- bursts of packets cause random losses of input
from the localtalk interface (PC at 4.77 MHz).
6) this causes generally bad performance. In the case of a MacII
uploading Macbinary data, the burst is very heavy.  Losses combined with
MacTCP's retry algorithm are such that data flow rate goes exponentially
down.
7) btw, if a fault in a router is such that the second packet of two on a
row is lost, I have noticed that -- despite this "best effort", and
fragmenting let alone (of couse) -- BSD Unix will slow down in the same
way.

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B26 - Sart Tilman     B-4000 Li`ge 1 (Belgium)            +32 (41) 564932
pirard@vm1.ulg.ac.be  alias PIRARD@BLIULG11.BITNET
From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: X packages for Mac other than MacX?
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:18:21 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab, Lexington, MA

In article <lgk7k2INNrfb@dimebox.cs.utexas.edu> werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig) writes:

> MikeSummers@cup.portal.com (Michael - Summers) writes:
>>Can anyone recommend 3rd party X packages for the Mac? I'm having 
>>problems with Apples product and would like some alternatives.


>	eXodus, but I forget the company's name ...

It's by White Pine Software in New Hampshire

-- 
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Assistant Staff	                 senseless acts of beauty"
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From: iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 17 Nov 1992 16:54:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Office of the President
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ajax.ucop.edu

In article <1992Nov17.121000.3285@syma.sussex.ac.uk>,
jeremym@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Jeremy Maris) wrote:
> 
> 
> Earl D. Fife <fife@calvin.edu> writes:
> > I just ordered a single copy of MacTCP from APDA for $25.  Perhaps the
> > rumors about the other prices are as exagerated as this.
> 
> Strange - I phoned them on Monday and asked how much it would cost to
> buy and ship MacTCP to me in the UK and they said $128 !
> 
A quick phone call to APDA elicited the response that if I currently had
MacTCP 1.1 ("legally"), the upgrade was $25. If I had any earlier version,
or no version at all, the cost was $100.


-----------
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
University wanted me to speak for it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ld@diablo.fdn.org (Laurent Demay)
Subject: Looking for a Wyse 60 terminal emulator
Reply-To: ld@diablo.fdn.org (Laurent Demay)
Organization: Home
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:35:00 GMT


I'm looking for a Wyse 60 (or 50 or 120) terminal emulator.

Any information about freeware shareware or comercial software is welcome.

Please reply by mail.
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