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From: mmilbock@beethoven.helios.nd.edu (mark milbocker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Please HELP me join a Christian CD club...
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:59:59 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame

Hi,

I am interesting in buying some new Christian CD's, but don't
know where to start looking for a CD club.  If you can provide me
with any information, I would appreciate it.

Please send all replies to:  mmilbock@handel.helios.nd.edu

Thank you
Mark
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,rec.music.industrial
From: elbel@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Elbel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Is a certain type of music bad?
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:41:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bvu25L.78n
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana




>In article <FBVyRB5w164w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca>, titan@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Titanium Knight) writes:


I would love to get into Christian 
>>industrial and techno if it has a similiar sound to the secular stuff.  I 

Check out "globalWAVEsystem."  Someone will likely see this post and 
correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure their SLAVA release is
being carried under the Blonde Vinyl imprint now.

Jeff
FTJ
From: ismith@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chris Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Music about heaven
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:51:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct7.112244.5017@eua.ericsson.se> euahbg@eua.ericsson.se (Hans Bengtsson) writes:
>Hello everyone,
>
>I'm having a radio program in a couple of weeks and this
>program will be about HEAVEN. About what I think of
>heaven, what others (christians as well as others) think
>and what the Bible says about heaven. Now I need some

What about "Heaven" by AVB (Acapella Vocal Band) of the album
Song in My Soul. Cool tune.

-Chris

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From: davidn@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (David Neils)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:21:29 GMT
Subject: Choir Music Suggestions???
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian

I am looking for Christian choir music with both contemporary and old
hymn favorites. This would have few if any instrumental background and
a Concordia College choir flavor. Now that I mention Concordia.....is 
their music available on tape or cd. Just respond with your favorite
choir music and why you like it so I can get a feel for what is on
the marketplace.

Thanks

David

Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: robertt@vcd.hp.com (Bob Taylor)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Steven Curtis Chapman's Great Adventure Tour
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:50:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Tim Foster (tim@kudzu.viewlogic.com) wrote:
: 
: In article <Bw4xoD.F1D@vcd.hp.com>, robertt@vcd.hp.com (Bob Taylor) writes:
: |> Mary Ries (mcr@meaddata.com) wrote:
: |> : In article <1992Oct13.145349.12419@viewlogic.com>, tim@kudzu.viewlogic.com (Tim Foster) writes:
: |> : |> 

< lot's of stuff deleted here so everybody doesn't have to hear it again >

: 
: I think this is true in alot of cases where someone's preference
: of a song's version is the first version they hear.  I can't stand

I actually had their album for about nine months !before! I saw them
live and still liked them better "unplugged" than with a band.

: some of the remakes that artists do of older tunes.  This is a 
: similar case in that their performance was not the same as what I 
: have grown accustomed to hearing (I bought their tape without ever
: seeing them live).  Another reason I would have preferred to hear
: the full band was that the speakers and/or microphones just didn't
: work well for those of us in the balcony at this concert.  If this
: were a "coffee house" setting, I'm sure I would have loved the 
: acoustic only stuff, but I just couldn't hear it that well.

This could have made a big difference - when I saw them with Charlie
Peacock, we were in about the third row and the sound system was
great (but loud) - lyrics, etc. were really clear - probably
clearer than they would have been with a band.

: 
: |> : 
: |> : _______________________________________________________________________
: |> : Mary Ries            | Die, v.:                     | Software Engineer
: |> : mcr@meaddata.com     |    To stop sinning suddenly. | Mead Data Central
: |> : ..uunet!meaddata!mcr |           -- Elbert Hubbard  | Dayton, Ohio
: |> : 
: |> 
: |> Bob Taylor
: |> HP Vancouver
: |> : 
: |> : 
: -- 
: 
: Tim Foster 
: E-mail: tfoster@viewlogic.com

Bob Taylor
HP Vancouver
From: binks@luna.compsci.bristol.ac.uk (D. Binks)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: A couple of questions.
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:10:43 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol


I've a couple of question to ask if anyone knows the answer.

The first is I know that Richard Page of Mr. Mister was involved in a song on
one of Amy Grant's albums, which one was it ?

The second is related, does anybody know what has happened to Mr. Mister ?

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Department of Computer Science|University of Brsitol|Bristol|BS8 1US
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exercise which consists in the coninuous application of the mind to the
comtemplation of some truth, mystery or object of reverence, in order that the
soul may increase in love of God and holiness of life." OED
From: urmvance@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Music about heaven
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:16:27 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Oct7.112244.5017@eua.ericsson.se>, euahbg@eua.ericsson.se (Hans Bengtsson) writes:

> I'm having a radio program in a couple of weeks and this
> program will be about HEAVEN. About what I think of
> heaven, what others (christians as well as others) think
> and what the Bible says about heaven. Now I need some
> good music to balance my usually boring babble.

"Milky-White Way" by Take 6 is my personal fave. It's from their self-titled
debut ablum.
							Richard Vance
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante)
Subject: Re: Jonathan David Brown convicted
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:22:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.184649.9377@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Mark Wuest <mdw@trumpet.att.com> writes:

>I differ with both of you.  Man!  The guy gives up considerable time
>trying to moderate a group that (left to its own devices) swings wildly
>from extreme to extreme and instead of appreciation, gets chided
>publicly.  If he doesn't read this newsgroup, would you call it
>gossip?

  Fine. Disagree. Your freedom as an American, and in Christ.
  I don't call it gossip -- if he wants to read this group, that's
  OK with me. I'm stating my opinion that I find the group stiffling.
  So I don't subscribe anymore. That's probably fine with him, too.
  Granted, he probably does spend a lot of time doing it -- Id just
  prefer that he doesn't.


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john r la plante                    graduate student, Ohio State University
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From: meo@pencom.com (Jaime Retief, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Mark Heard - Satellite Sky & Heart Attack, Misc.
Summary: Long Answers to Short Questions
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:27:34 GMT
Organization: Roadkills-R-Us

Satellite Sky was completed well before the heart
attack, which occured on July 4 at the Cornerstone
Festival.

What in particular bothered you about the
production of SS?  I would have preferred a
tad more thematic diverstity, musically -
some of the sounds on the album recur a bit
too often between songs, butI can live with
it.

Mark, though not that well known in the US by
the buying public, was well respected by the
Christian music industry (and some of the secular),
and could doubtless get just about anybody he
wanted to play on his albums despite not having
a massive budget.  (As to what the Call musicicans
have planned I have no idea.)

I prefer _Dry Bones Dance_ to SS.  Then again,
I probably prefer Dominoes to both of these.  On
the other hand, despite the plethora of styles, I
haven't heard anything by him I didn't like, altho
some of it took some getting used to!

_Second Hand_ is an acoustical album from what I've
read.  It's hard enough to find Mark at all in
the stores; it usually requires a store heavy with
alternative music, and I'm guessing SH doesn't
fit into any categorically very neatly.  I had
ordered it from CB&S, but it was in the process
of being transferred between Mark's company
(Fingerprint) and Urgent, who had just recently
picked him up (they distribute SS).  That was
just before C'STone, and it has yet to show up,
so I'm going to check with CB&S again (they
converted that part of my order to a free disk,
redeemable whenever, noting of that was not OK,
to let them know and they would refund the money.
I said fine - I love the way they do business.)

His old stuff is not on CD, and last time I heard
from Mark (April or May) he really didn't know
whether it ever would be.

-Miles
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: dmaxwell@auc.trw.com (Doug Maxwell)
Subject: Come and Join Us
Organization: TRW Denver Operations
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:38:02 GMT

Has anyone actually seen Come and Join Us on CD?  The first Petra CD lists
a product number for Come and Join Us.  I tried to special order it, but to
no avail.

-- 
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|16201 Centretech Pky / Aurora, CO  80011      |   *                         |
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From: teh@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Richie L C TEH)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Prayer Request from SFC Latrobe Uni, Victoria, Australia
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:49:55 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

Hi everyone,

 Here's a prayer request from SFC in Latrobe uni. SFC stands for Student For 
Christ and it's purpose is to spread the previous word of God to students in university around Australia.SFCs are active in almost all tertiary institution in 
the state of Victoria and New South Wales in Australia. I'm not sure if the other state have SFCs.

 A couple of weeks ago, the SFC in latrobe university in Melbourne organised a
seminar on the topic Sexuality. This was held on two days during lunch time.
During the seminar, there were interuptions from people from the Gay & Lesbian
group in Latrobe. It got to a point where these people were shouting obscenity
at the people attending the seminar. Despite these interuptions, the seminar
was a success.

 The problem got worse now because the Gay & Lesbian group are trying to throw
SFC out of Latrobe, by filing complain to the Student Union in latrobe. Please
pray for us here that this incident would not seize the activity that SFC are
doing at Latrobe. Believe me, the Gay & Lesbian group and other left wing group
presence in Latrobe is a big one and they can do anything. Also, please pray that this incident will touch some of them. Obviously, they felt treaten about all
this. Thanks you.

God Bless!!!!



Richie Teh
-- 
Richie   ( that's me....)
From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Jonathan David Brown convicted
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:52:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Oct9.122813.11553@sfu.ca> guay@fraser.sfu.ca (Tim Guay) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.190633.23574@keinstr.uucp> chaplin@keinstr.uucp (Roger Chaplin) writes:
>>CARL SEILER (st1t0@elroy.uh.edu) wrote:
>>: Regardless, as a sheltered anglo-American, I am interested in carrying on 
>>: conversations with Christians of other etnic backgrounds.  It has
>>: 
>>: been said that Sunday is the most segregated day in America, and I
>>: wondered if you would care to share your feelings on the subject.
>>
>>I would be interested in seeing such a discussion, but not in this
>>newsgroup.  Perhaps soc.religion.christian.
>>
>No, soc.religion.christian is too oppressively moderated... we really need
>an unmoderated group for this... maybe we should create an alt.christian.
>
>For those who don't know, the moderator of soc.religion.christian does things
>like embed his own unasked for commentry in other people's postings, as well
>as censor postings. 
>
>===============================================================================
>  Ta Ta For Now      | Beware of the demon Wizzy Wig, the father of 
>        Tim          | typographic lies... 
>===============================================================================

I agree with this post wholeheartedly.

-- 
"How dare you call us [people] `you people'!"
	-Benjamin Hooks

krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu
From: plemmons@mth.msu.edu (Steve Plemmons)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Metallica
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:18:52 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Michigan State University

With all this Metallica flameage going on I would just like to say
"Thank God for The Galactic Cowboys!!!"  I was having a hard time
getting into life this morning, you know the kind of day when you wake
up but your eyes won't open:-)  When I got into my truck to drive to
work I put in GC and turned up until my ears were just about to bleed.(I
would have let them bleed but I didn't want to have the mess on my way
to work)  I feel a lot better now and am ready to face the day!  Hoorah!

See Ya,

Steve

P.S.  I gotta see these guys with King's X again soon!


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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: rburlin@owlnet.rice.edu (Rusty Burlingame)
Subject: Various Q's - Heard, Been, T-Bone
Followup-To: rec.music.christian
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:44:43 GMT


I just picked up 'Satellite Sky' after reading such good things about
it here on rmc.  It's great.  I love it.  Buy it now.  A few questions:

1) How long was the interval between completion of SS and Mark Heard's
   first heart attack?  Could some of the poor production be because
   someone else had to finish it?

2) Michael Been plays bass, Jim Goodwin horns.  These two guys are the
   driving force behind The Call.  I hope they aren't going to end up
   as studio musicians!  Any recent info on what they or The Call are
   up to?

3) I read many good things about 'Dry Bones Dance', and will probably
   begin looking for it soon.  I read nothing about 'Second Hand',
   which apparently came between DBD and SS.  What's it like?  Any good?

4) Also, I haven't read any reviews of "The Criminal Under My Own Hat."
   How is it?  Any news from Sam and T-Bone?

Thanks for any information you might have...

Rusty
rburlin@owlnet.rice.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Subject: Re: Home For Christmas
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:53:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.032334.18050@newshost.unh.edu>, ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
|> 
|> Well, Amy Grant's new album, "Home For Christmas" was released October 5th.
|> 
|> Anybody heard it yet?  How is it?  I'm dying for a commentary....

  Just bought it last week.

  My first impression on listening to it was that it sounded like
it was recorded several years ago. Looking at the liner notes proved
this impression wrong. It's all 1992 stuff. The songs are quite
traditional including traditional instrumentation - orchestra. A few
of the songs offer a little different flavor - "Breath of Heaven" is
a nice change of pace from the rest of the album. The longest track
on the album regrettably turns out to be an instrumental arrangement
of "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring." Sure it's beautiful, but Amy obviously
doesn't sing a note of it. Over all, I find her first Christmas album,
"A Christmas Album", much more enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, "Home for
Christmas" is a nice piece of work, but it's nothing we haven't heard
Ray Connif, Andy Williams, and many others do before. I recommend
giving it a listen before you plunk down your $13.

-- Tim
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante)
Subject: Re: Message from Russia about Christian rock music
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:05:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.134220.10432@uoft02.utoledo.edu> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:

>
>the Russian church has been isolated for a long time and is in dire
>need of -serious- study materials. we take for granted that we can
>go to a local bookstore & buy as many Bibles, concordances or whatnot
>as our little hearts desire. that's not the case there.
>
  Good point. As someone said, maybe we're dealing with the "weaker
  brother" (on the other hand, maybe we are the brother in error). They
  definitely need serious study materials a lot more than ... well,
  fill in the name of the famous christian artis you don't like. In
  fact, I've often wondered if I really _should_ be accumulating
  Christian music -- isn't there a better way to spend the money? 
  And what's the purpose of this anyway? Just a christian mirror of
  the secular pop culture?  
   
>
>if i want good music that makes me think, i'll listen to Christian 
>rock. if i want to grow i'll go to church, study my Bible & get 
>involved in discipleship. if people are asking for one it does little
>good to give them the other.

     Aha! "makes me think." Almost goes without saying in this group --
    we benefit from music that makes us think, but most of it doesn't.

    Maybe I was too harsh on the Russians. I've been around this
    "rock is evil" stuff too long .... (and I don't even listen to it...)

    (unless you want to count old petra, i suppose). 

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jrl+@osu.edu                        political analysis done while you wait
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Christmas Albums (was Re: Home For Christmas)
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:57:33 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Fresh Aire Christmas isn't too bad. and Steve Taylor singing 'Winter
Wonderland' on that Christmas album a few years back really cracked
me up... (the only man who could do it with a sneer)

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                                          from a local in Defiance, Ohio
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: manitp@sage4c.its.rpi.edu (Philip Joseph Manitta Jr.)
Subject: New bandmember seeks advice
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:39:57 GMT

Hey.  

I just joined a band, we will be having our first practice on
Saturday.  I'm looking for suggestions and help from other band members
out there.  I've been a bassplayer for all of 2 and 1/2 months.  Our lead
guitarist is quite good (~5 yrs. experience)  our drummer is actually a
keyboard virtuoso who decided about 1 year ago that he wanted to try
out the drums.  And our rhythm guitarist has played for about 3 yrs.
and just wants to have fun. 

We haven't really decided what our goals are yet.  I know I am looking at
the possibilty of a career as an audio technician. (that is, i would do
everything in music except play it!  produce, engineer etc.)  But I
decided I should learn some music as well as technology and that would
probably make me a better technician.  Also- I always wanted to play bass
in a band.  My opinion is that i should always do my best before the Lord
and go where he leads me.  I know I want to jam with a band.  But I don't
exactly feel like i wanna be the next Petra.  If God decides I should
be a professional musicina, then i will honor that.  Whether that means
becoming a ministry band like Petra and all our other CCM bands. or if it
means glorifying him in a strictly artistic sense like King's X.  I don't
know exactly what the other guys goals are, but we are definitely going
to discuss that on Saturday before we so much as turn the power on our
amps!  My main goal for the time being is to improve my musicianship
and have some fun.

So I'd like some feedback from other musician types out there- How did
you folks get started?  What tend to be some common problems for
fledgling bands?  What are some realistic short term goals?  What
equipment do y'all recommend?  Etc.  Any pertinent input would be more
than welcome!!

				Thanks 

-- 
Philip J. "Ralph" Manitta Jr. (RLF)     _|_       " For me to live is
88 14th st.                              |        Christ, to die is
Troy NY, 12180                           |        gain!"   (manitp@rpi.edu) 
" Don't even think of copying this! The band NEEDS money! " -Fluffy
From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: The final word on "Re: New Amy Album?" ?
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:08:24 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <92142@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.134404.9337@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante) writes:
>
>>   Grape, Grape Joy
>>  Copyright (c) 1977 Word
>>
>>   I tried listening to my tape of this last night, just to remember what
>>   it was -- and now it's so old that it's basically unplayable. In general,
>>   it's not much of a loss. I would live an entirely happy life if I never
>>   heard "There's a grape grape joy in Jesus" again.
>
>
>You're kidding!  That's a real song??  I always thought people were
>kidding when they quoted that title.  

Nope, it's vintage Amy, with a certain robust vocal quality - a little
sweet, a little tart, but full bodied.  A sparkling performance.  

>What on earth is it about?  This really boggles the mind.  Is it anything
>like "Strawberry Fields Forever"?  Does Bananarama do a cover of it?  How
>about Vanilla Ice?

I think Moby Grape first covered it in the late sixties, followed by
a much looser cover by the Electric Prunes (who later became The Raisins 
after lead singer David Mogen and bass player Charlotte (Char) Donay
left to form The Corkscrews in Champaign, Illinois).  "There's a 
Grape, Grape Joy in Jesus" was a standard in many of the Jesus
Movement churches of the early seventies, often combined with other
countercultural favorites such as The Shirelles "He's So Vine" and 
Bob Dylan's "I Chablis Released."  In fact, this trio of songs can
be found on one of the Vineyard's latest praise albums, as performed
by Elder Barry Wyne.  He does a dandy "Lion of Judah" too.

Don't even get me started on vegetables.

>Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu

Andy Whitman
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