From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: Apology - take foot out mouth :-)
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:44:28 GMT

jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:

>I would like to publicly apologize on my part for creating
>some animosity in this newsgroup. I will admit that I made
>some absurd statments, but it was done only to peeve some
>fervert fans.

Making absurd statements is fine, you certainly are not alone in that. It
was your constant and cosistent use of arguments that had no basis in fact
(or stats). As I said before... at least 5 times in the thread I pointed
out to you that what you had said was either incorrect or an outright lie...
the fact that you say you now did this on purpose is even worse than
ignorance.

I dont mind if you say 'The Pats will beat the 9ers by 100'. The problem
came when you spouted the the equivalent of 'The Pats will beat the 9ers
by 100 because the Pats have the best D and best O'. Granted that is not
what you said, but the example holds true. You cited false statistics and
examples, and there is no excuse for that.

>What started, on my part, as merely as an excerise in ruffling
>the feathers on some die-hard fans, was escalated by name calling
>on the part of others. I realize I should I have put a stop to it,
>but coupled with some fervent rebuttals and comments by others,
>I likewise complied in kind.

Ruffling feathers is different from lying/falsifying things. I dont
mind being ribbed about the Eagles loss yesterday. But what I would
mind is if you said that the Eagles lost because Okoye ran all over them.
It didnt happen that way.

>I do apologize, really, but I haven't had a chance to read r.s.f.p
>in about 4+ days. I have been extremely busy at work 
>trying to iron out some minor problems with our system (our 
>system crashed 2 weeks ago).

Sounds like a cop-out after several posts (my own and other included) threw
all your theories and lies out the windows with fatcs.

>You have to realize, that I don't take sports as seriously as some
>other netters do. I go in and just have fun in trying to, as I
>mentioned earlier, to ruffle some feathers.  One way to ruffle
>someone's feathers is to attack "their" teams or "their" favorite
>NFL player.  I am really amazed by what I consider perhaps some
>very intelligent men out there, get into frivilous debates over
>something WE CANNOT control, i.e., outcome of games or a teams
>standings.  I am not ignorant and I am sure the majority of
>the other netters are also not ignorant. We, however, get
>caught up in the defense of local favorite teams and when
>someone says your QB sucks, it is taken personally.

But this isnt what you did. You attacked with falsehoods, not truth.
Ruffling feathers is only 'ruffling feathers' if you can do it using
the truth. Otherwise you are just a liar.

>Well, I better stop before I start another avalanche of
>rebuttals.  :-) So please accept my apologies for stepping
>on some toes and for my stupid remarks in support of
>"non-facts" that I kinda threw in to mess with your minds.

Thats the first thing you've said that makes any sense.

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