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From: benjamin@zds-oem.zds.com (Adam Benjamin)
Subject: Re: CONGRATULATIONS! CBM!
Organization: Zenith Data Systems, OEM Systems Engineering
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:24:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.234142.5882@rmece49.upr.clu.edu> raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453) writes:
>   I want to thank Commodore marketing department for finally seeing some light
>on what makes good marketting.  Just saw latest A4000 add on the latest AmiWorld,
>with the A4000 on the front cover and the CBM add inside of it.
>
Remainder deleted.... 
>
>- Raist

Have you seen the MultiMedia Adds?  I just saw one in a PC rag (forget which
one)  They are GOOD!  right in the middle of the page it says "The MPC Version
of Multimedia May Cost More Than Ours.  But It's Harder To Use And Requires
More Equiptment."  Heh heh, kick gates around yeah.  I Love it! 
It was a full page add and details how the Amiga is multiMedia from the ground
up, so you don't have to worry about getting a bunch on incompatible add-ons.
They included the 1-800 number for information too.
Things are looking up.  Now if I could just afford a new one ;-)

Adam Benjamin    A.Benjamin@mi04.zds.com
From: barrett@gleep.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Cygnus Ed & Turbotext
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:36:21 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@gleep.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED


>>In article <54427@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@scooby.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>>>Turbotext has never crashed for me.

>dnavas@oracle.uucp (David Navas) writes:
>>Make a line more than 32k (64k?) long. :)

In article <schwager.718492377@mike.cs.uiuc.edu> schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager) writes:
>Does that mean you cannot edit binary files with TurboText?  I have done so
>with CygnusEd- although it's kinda goofy the way the screen looks (all the
>little binary stuff goes down the left side of the screen).

	TurboText can edit binary files.  (I have not run into the problem
David reports -- I assume he's sent in a bug report to Martin?)  TurboText
has a "hex view" mode which makes your binary file look like an interactive
version of "Type OPT H".

                                                        Dan

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From: arc@JUDY.INDSTATE.EDU (Arc Wave)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: AMAX II or II+ and A4000
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:08:19 GMT



Does anyone know if the AMAX II or II+ will work on the A4000?
I am very interested in knowing this.  If it does work, then is there
a device driver for the IDE interface available?  If I use the workbench
as my default screen size, I assume it will be flicker/scan line free (based
on the screen mode).

Any news on when the 3.0 programmer includes will be available?
I assume they are now...right?

Paul
"Certified Developer status soon!","waiting on CBM & UPS for my A4000"
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From: mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Chris Hurley)
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Organization: Lakes Public Access
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:58:16 GMT

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

[endless tirade deleted[
> 
> ---
> | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
> --------------------------------------------------
All I can do is laugh.  As usual, Marc. N. Barrett, making decisions for 
the world.  Trying to think for others.  You should concentrate on 
thinking for yourself.
 
>            Amiga 4000:  JUST SAY NO!!!!

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From: hibrown@sarah.albany.edu (Herb Brown)
Subject:  Cyberscape
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 21:06:25 GMT


Does anyone have either an address or telephone number where I can
obtain information about the virtual reality pgm called Cyberscape
or the one called Mandala?

Many thanks,

Herb


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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: A4000 and scan-lines, mode promotion, flicker
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:36:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.004514.17454@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:
>In <1992Oct8.031833.3257@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>>   Not necessarily.  With mode promotion turned on, the OS will try to
>>force all interlaced screens to open to a non-interlaced screen.  But it
>>does not often work.
>
>Marc, you are wrong. It does works unless a program explicitely requests
>a certain monitor type.
>
>>   Yes.  If a program insists on opening an interlaced screen, an 
>>interlaced screen will be opened.
>
>Again, you have no clue. If a program opens an interlaced 15KHz screen it will
>be displayed non-interlaced at 31KHz.

   Always?  Under all conditions (Super HiRes and Super72 excepted)?  You
yourself just stated that if a program explicitly requests a certain monitor
type (such as a 640x400 interlaced screen), then the screen will be opened
as interlaced.  But you now make it sound like the software deinterlacing
works at all times with all software, as the A3000's hardware deinterlacing
does.
   In other words, if you had an A4000 would you be willing to use it with a
monitor that can only handle frequencies from 27Khz and higher?  

>Yes, it rules out games that use interlaced displays (not screens).
>Marc, how many games do you know that use an interlaced display ?

   Well, there's SimAnt and SimEarth.  There are probably others.

>Michael van Elst
>UUCP:     universe!local-cluster!milky-way!sol!earth!uunet!unido!mpirbn!p554mve
>Internet: p554mve@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de
>                                "A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."

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From: matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik)
Subject: Re: 2.05 installation question
Summary: Changing the Startup
Keywords: User-Startup, Startup-Sequence
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:25:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.204458.15770@ms.uky.edu> kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes:
>matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik) writes:
>
>>Bottom line at first: When will people learn to use the 
>>User-Startup and let Startup-Sequence unchanged?
>>They change Startup-Sequcne and end having problems they could avoid
>>reading the manual and changing ONLY User-Startup (or putting programs
>>in WBStartup).
>
>[and so on]
>
>Let me start by giving you a word of advice, Mr. Milostnik:  I've been on 
>this net for around eight years, and I've discovered that when one acts too
>superior on USENET, the gods usually conspire to make sure one is wrong.
>
>This is one of those times.

I am sorry I sounded 'too superior' to you, I didnt think it sounded so
harsh. Neither was it meant to be presonal. 

I have seen so many posts and experienced so many user that skrewed 
up the Startup-Sequence only to complain it doesnet work anymore. 
Till now moving the changed lines to User-Startup resolved always
the IPrefs-requester problem.

My first reaction was:'Another Startup-Sequence-IPrefs problem'
Try the obvious at first.

>What Mr. Milostnik and others have hinted around at, but nobody has
>spelled out, is that the initial CLI only opens when/if something in
>Startup-Sequence generates output, and Iprefs depends on the CLI not
>having opened yet.  Once I understood this, the true problem was
>obvious.

I guess this is the real bottom line :-)

>Which was that the Comspec drive software uses something in the
>Expansion drawer to mount HD partitions other than the boot partition,
>and this program happens to print status messages as it goes.  And
>items in Expansion are started by the Binddrivers program.  And the
>Binddrivers call comes before Iprefs.  And binddrivers didn't have a
>>NIL: after it.
>
>(Under 1.3, this was not a problem.)
>
>Adding a > NIL: to the binddrivers call fixed the problem. 

Glad you fond a solution to your problem.

Bye
  Matija
>Kenneth Herron                                   kherron@ms.uky.edu
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From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (The Bewildered One)
Subject: Re: A1200 IS THERE !!!
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:51:26 GMT

mwelie@cs.vu.nl (Welie van M) writes:

>The A1200 is there , here are some features :
>68EC020 at 14,19 MHz (PAL) max 16 Mb
>A sockel for a 68881 or 68882
>32-bit architecture
>AA-chipset (with Lisa and Alice)
>OS 3.0
>1 or 2 Mb Chipmem
>Looks like a A600
>880 Kb diskdrive
>Optional 2.5" IDE harddisk (A1200HD)
>a PCMCIA slot for RAM,ROM and Flash-rom modules

>The A1200 is about 5 times faster than a standard A500.

Hmmm, no scsi and no zorro slot for scsi.  No high density drive.
And worst of all an ec020.  Got a news flash for you.  There is no such
beast as an ec020.  020 is stripped bear anyhow.  But just in case it
was an ec030.  Arrgggg no mmu.

Cute conjection.

Martin
From: cs90rol@brunel.ac.uk (Richard O Lavey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Is Black bad in Europe ?
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:48:37 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

As a northern European, I quite like black ! In fact, most T.V's and Hi-Fi stuff sold in the U.K. is black (nearly all of it comes from Japan - do they like black ?)

As for computers, one of the best selling home computers in this country in the mid-80's was the Sinclair ZX Spectrum (I think it was sold in the US as the Timex 2000), although price was probably the main selling point (much cheaper than a C64).

I think the colour question would also depend on the colour of one's other equipment as well - after all, if you've got lots of "metal" finish stuff, a black box will look a bit out of place

Just my thoughts...

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From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: CONGRATULATIONS! CBM!
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:19:53 GMT

raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453) writes:
>   GREAT!  I got a question from 'English point of view' as it is not my
>first language:  "The MPC Version of Multimadia May Cost More Than Ours.
>But It's..." - I don't understand why the "..May Cost More Than Ours.." is
>supposed to be a good phrase to use.  Why not, "And also, it will cost you
>much less" or something.  
^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>   Must be my English.  If anyone can explain, thanks.

I think you mean "And also, it will cost you much more".  This would be
technically accurate. 

Most English speaking people are familiar with the following sentence form:

FORM:    Something has a disadvantage, but it has a greater advantage.
EXAMPLE: "The MPC Version of Multimedia is expensive, but it has more features
          than ..."

The idea is that the advantages overcome the disadvantages.

Commodore used sarcasm to twist this form into:

FORM:    Something has a disadvantage, and has even more disadvantages.
EXAMPLE: "The MPC Version of Multimedia is expensive, and it requires more
          hardware..."                                

And then they replaced "is expensive" with "cost more than our version".

The funny part is that the reader expects to see the first form because
of the word but in the original sentence.  When he sees that is really the
second form instead, he is confused.  He then needs to THINK about what the
sentence is saying.

This is where you got confused.  The sentence is gramatically correct...
it just is not in a form that you would expect.

When he figures it out, Commodore has accomplished its task: to get people
to read the information and THINK about it for a while.  If they can get you
to THINK about something for a while, you will probably remember it.

Does this help?

______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
From: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Finally got to play with an A4000
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:23:54 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

>In article <54551@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>> <1960 monitor jumps when switching scan rates>

In article <Bvy1A5.1uE@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>   It isn't just flipping between resolutions, it is flipping between
>scan-frequencies (from 15Khz to 31Khz, or vice-versa).  It is therefore a
>fault of the computer, as an A3000 does not have this problem.  Another
>arguement for a display enhancer.

	Marc, you are totally wrong AGAIN.

	It *is* the fault of the monitor, and it *does* happen on the
A3000.  I am sitting in front of an A3000T right now, flipping between
screens of different scan rates, and there is a delay (blank screen) while
the monitor resynchs.  You don't even *have* an A3000, but you think you
know the answer.  How ignorant of you.

	I can't believe your sheer gall sometimes.  When I don't understand
something, such as the phenomenon we are discussing above, I ask about it.
When YOU don't understand something, you invent a story about it.

	Marc, you don't know SHIT about computers.

	Followups are directed to c.s.a.advocacy.  But I'd be happier
if any thread involving Marc would die instantly.

                                                        Dan
							(no relation)

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From: "Stefan Berg" <sgberg@peach.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Looking for 030 software...
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:55:49 -0500

Now where I got my 33MHz MMR /030+882, I`m looking for some software,
which makes use of the capabilites of my accelerator (MMU, 882, etc...).
If somebody has some suggestion, please email me.

Thanks,

Stefan

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From: hibrown@sarah.albany.edu (Herb Brown)
Subject: Re: What is the latest version of the C= AS225 TCP/IP software?
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 13:24:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.171035.23168@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> walthour@coos.dartmouth.edu (David Walthour) writes:
>As the title says, what is the latest version?  I think I have version 1.0.
>Is there a later version that isn't so buggy?  How long do I have to 
>wait to see this stuff incorporated into the OS?  Are there any PD versions
>of the TCP/IP software that work better than the C= stuff?  Any info would
>be appreciated.
>
>David Walthour
>walthour@dartmouth.edu


My goodness! The latest version is still 1.0. Yup, the 'buggy' one is it!!

I don't know how long one has to wait for an update, but my guess is 5 more
years. What do you say CBM? Am I wrong?

Herb


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From: rghester@eos.ncsu.edu (Rodney Hester)
Subject: Re: wb 2.05?
Keywords: really?
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:05:04 GMT

In article <CFL.23.719132069@buc.edu.au> CFL@buc.edu.au (Colin Linahan) writes:
>  I was just wondering if I do have 2.05 what is the difference between it 
>and 2.04.								

2.05 includes a new SetPatch (with _many_ changes...again, if you don't have
2.05, GET IT!), a new FastFileSystem for 1.3 FFS cross-compatibility, and a
new DiskCopy (although I'm not sure why).  There are other minor changes that
I can't remember now, but the new SetPatch is by far the most important of the
lot.
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From: olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Washington Area Commodore Meeting 10/17
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:17:00 GMT
Organization: Mission Operations and Data Systems
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello Everyone,

For those of you within a drive of Washington D.C., the Washington Area
Commodore User's Group (WAC) will be holding a meeting Saturday, October 17th
at George Mason High School.  The meeting starts at 13:00.  The serivce tables
(Disk of the Month sales, memberships, blank disks, Fish disks, etc.) open up
at 12:30.  Once the general meeting is over, the group breaks up into SIGs, or
special interest groups.  WAC has groups for the Amiga, MS-DOS and C64/128. 
The groups usually have a question/answer period, followed by a topic of the
month.  There are always demonstrations, new product announcements and lots of
people with common interests.

If you have any questions, call the WAC AnswerLine at 703/273-6074.  Look
forward to seeing you there.

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From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (The Bewildered One)
Subject: NEW AMIGA OS NEEDS PM, VM, AND JOB CONTROL
Keywords: pm vm job
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:27:22 GMT

This is both a request and a warning.  The amiga os needs desperately pm, vm,
and better job control.  I would actually like to be able to compile most all
unix source code with gcc.  I have successfully compiled most of the gnu 
file utils and others that will work without having a problem with the computer
lack of good job control [ie killing and suspending successfully and the 
way unix does it].  I would also like to be able to do a lot of other 
compilations that is impossible on the amiga.  How about taking the X source
and compiling it without complete overhall.  And these are really need if 
CBM is wanting a multi-media machine[ protected memory especially for this one]
Because you are going to want some multi-user capabilities.

I have been told by 80% of my friends that own an amiga, that they will not buy
another amiga if the os doesn't start using pm, vm, and job control.  Instead
they will buy some type cheap or used unix box.  Myself i am going to wait 
awhile and start working on a unix protected shell that will have file 
protection on all files and be defined as the drwerwerwe in any combo, then
i will of course add 's' to the protection.  Of course i will only do this
by using the file comments and hope that the comments are too vital for 
anyone since it will write on it.

But i repeat i know of atleast 20 people that would snatch up an 030 amiga,
if the OS would support the above.  And a lot of these people are going
to ibm instead [ but find the ibm absolutely garbage for the machine itself ]
And i don't mean running a different os like bsd, linux, or any unix, for 
when i say i need it in the os.  I want it in the native amiga os.

Martin

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