HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: 9201 Suctioner in Job Group (Re: 9201 people will be more active)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:27:46 GMT

In article <BvzouJ.MFM@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes:
>[...]
>
>Enclosure:  Shannon Yeh's posting in misc.jobs.resumes
>Forwarded by Bo Xiong in Chicago
>
>--------------------- Forwarding of Shannon Yeh's Message ------------------
>Newsgroups: misc.jobs.resumes
>From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
>Subject: An open letter to the US employers
>Nntp-Posting-Host: netix.com
>Message-ID: <2AD62DFB.13800@news.service.uci.edu>
>Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
>Lines: 18
>Date: 10 Oct 92 01:12:27 GMT
>
>
>Dear Employers in the US:
>
>Some thousands of Chinese nationals finally got their free grenn cards (i.e.
>refugee) after they successfully sold their home country, China.  Those 
>refugees are of no morality, and simply are liers: they declared that they 
>faced danger to return to China, and I believe that everyone knows how 
>dangerous to travel back and forth between here and China these days.
>
>I urge your company NOT to offer any privilege to those refugees when they
>compete your comany's open position with other non-refugee candidates.  Your
>cooperation will recover the damage made by those refugees, George Bush and 
>other US legislators.  Thank you.
>
>Mr. Shannon T. Yeh
>Irvine, California
>
>PS: I am not a student.  I just cannot tolerate those who raped justice. 
>
>------------------------ End of the Forwarding --------------------------

   It's no surprise to me that Shannon did this.  That's just
   xiao3 ren2 de shou3 wan3 at the edge of gou3 ji2 tiao4 qiang2.
   That's just one more hint to people as to what's his real purpose
   when he launched action 9201.  To have CSS to be discriminated against?
   Seems he would resort to any means trying to achieve the purpose.
   People are yet to see what other ji4 liang3 he is going to use.

-ping

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: you@cs.montana.edu (Xia You)
Subject: Re: Someone is very sick out there!
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:52:49 GMT

Xia You

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: to blood card fighters (re-post)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:58:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.145745.10585@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
>In article <2ADEB9B1.28311@news.service.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)  
>writes:
>> 
>>  __|___   /  __|__  /  /__  ---     ---    /\  ---    /            |/
>>   /|--|  _|_ |_|_| /|-|  | --|-- |=||_|_  /--\ -|-   /|-----|   ---|---  ?!
>>  / |==|  /|\   |    |-|/ |   |     ----|   |=|--|--   | | | |      |\ 
>>    | \|   |    |    |_| \|   |        \|       \|   __|_|_|_|__    | \
>> 
>> 
>> __|___  / __|__ /  /__  ---    ---   -----    |=|  |    /    /  |=|  _|_ _\_
>>  /|--| _|_|_|_|/|-|  | --|--|=||_|_ |=|=|=|  --|- ||   /\   /| __|__  |/ |_|
>> / |==| /|\  |   |-|/ |   |    ----|  --/-/-   / | ||  /  \   |  /|\  /|  |   
>>   | \|  |   |   |_| \|   |       \|    \/    /  | || /    \  | / | \  |  |
>>                                        /\      \| \|         |   |   \| /
>Hey, Shannon. I know it is a great pain to write a post using Chinese letters  
>like this. I guess this is the reason why you just "cut and paste" your old  
>message again and again. However, I'd tell you that if you like to try  
>something new and tell us more about what you are thinking and angry at, just  
>try it in English. We all know English and I guess you know English too. Am I  
>right that you use Chinese characters because you are afraid the CIA might one  
>day read your post and "prosecute" you?
>
>Carl

Carl, never mind. The reason is very simple, he is a thug. His language
is very thuggy. That is why. I wish you know some Chinese. How about
having a Chinese girl friend :-). Sorry if you are already married.


Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:28186 soc.culture.taiwan:14550
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: ROC VS. PROC
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:04:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <Bw86JK.5A8@cs.psu.edu> jyw@phys.psu.edu (Jin-Yuan Wu) writes:
>>According to CCTV news Monday, the Beijing subway has been extended,
>>from Fusinmem to Xidan, "1.81 KM". It was descrided as a major
>>technical break-through.
>a sub-way is built under a crowed city without disturbing the normal
>city operation through messy city tube, cable net system, the 
>problem is non-trivial.
>
The subway tunnel is way below all the utility pipe, cable, ...etc.
The subway construction in Shanghai under a French company is using modern
equipments that is more efficient. The 1.81 KM tunnel according to French 
is just peanuts. Beijing is not the first city in the world built with
subway, but Beijing likes man power than machine.:-) 

The hidden message of difficult part might be: they had to prevent the
collapse of Mao's tunnel which was intended for nuclear shelter.:-)
Note: Mao challenged the US in 1965 for a nuclear war. Again, Mao tried
to put 50% of Chinese people into sleep in his strategy.:-)
From: jim@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Question about bringing PC to China (220vs110, 50Hvs60H)
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:50:32 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <1992Oct1.114750.59340@cc.usu.edu>, ma@cc.usu.edu writes:
> Does anyone have experiences to bring PC to China? I am interested in
> knowing how to deal with the voltage/frequency problem. The machines
> (PC with a VGA monitor, a printer) can only take 110V/60Hz AC power source.
> One possible way I can think of is to buy a convertor (transformer) which
> converts both voltage and frequency. I looked many stores in town. The only
> thing I can find is the one for iron and hairdryer, which converts voltage
> only. 
> Any information, advice, sharing experiences are appreciated. Please e-mail
> or post.
> Ma
> 
 IT'S EASY TO GET ONE IN CHINA,DON'T WORRY ABOUT VOLTAGE.
BY THE WAY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF MACII ABOVE AND 486 CAN BE BROGHT INTO MAIN
LAND OF CHINA?
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Improving One's English...
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:49:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct8.064014.28366@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy) writes:
>
>My "better half" (slang for girlfriend/fiance/wife) accuses me of not doing
>enough to help her improve her English.  She comes from Taipei and has been in
>this country for five years.  She says I don't use enough big words, and I use
>too much slang.  I don't know, it's just not in my nature to talk like a 
>pompous ass (the way I'm doing in this post :-]).  I would appreciate any 
>suggestions you may have, except telling her to find a new boyfriend :-].

Dan, the best way I could think of is to make a fool of herself here
on scc, and then you correct her English ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: fgg8386@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Fangpu Gao)
Subject: Re: *-*-*-* Yeh Shannon is a spy of CCP government !!! *-*-*
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:12:35 GMT

jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu writes:

>In article <gretchen.195@yap.las.uiuc.edu> gretchen@yap.las.uiuc.edu writes:
>>>gangzhou@sal-sun124.usc.edu (Gang Zhou) writes:
>>
>>>>He is too stupid to be a spy. He is just mad.
>>>>G. Zhou
>>
>>I just wondering why "he is just mad." From his email address, we can see 
>>that he has a job here at U.S (hopefully not in CIA). 

>Anyone can own have an acount like that; you can even own your own domain.
>My understanding, from Yeh's postings, is that he has lots of connections
>with high level CCP officials and his netix.com is bankrolled by CCP.
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^
	If it is true, we can understand why he has been making his show.
	During the CR, we could often see the slogan,"Tuan2 Jie1 Da4 Duo1
		Shu4,  Da3 Ji1 Yi4 Xiao3 Cuo1".  So, he is not loyal to Mao's
		teaching...  A "bad student of Mao's".  He treated all the
		CSS as his enemies.  I don't think he is smart.

>> Speech Communication Department
>> University of Illinois
-- 
#+++++++++ Fangpu  Gao  (fgg8386@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) +++++++++++++++++++++++#
| Univ of Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign |  461 Freer, 906 S. Goodwin Ave.   |
| Department of Kinesiology           |  Urbana, IL  61801                |
#+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++#
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)
Subject: Re: ROC vs PRC
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:09:20 GMT

In article <BvrLAC.AwC@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>In article <ld67gmINNfpc@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>>
>>According to the late reports:
>>
>>ROC GNP:10000 U$      P'ROC GNP 400 U$
>>Foreign exchange reserve:
>>ROC: 90 B U$	 P'ROC: 40 B U$
>>
>>(any correction?)
>
>This might not be a correction. It is from Fortune.
> 
>GNP of Taiwan is 6600 U$,  PROC GNP 2000U$ (based on purchase power)

  Should it be GNP per capita ??
  China's GNP is many times higher than that of Taiwans (based on
  traditional GNP         ).
>I don't have it with me, those are just from my memory.
>>
>>Chinese people are great, if the one drops P pre-fix.
>>Then China has the world number foreign exchange reserve.
>>Just using the interest of those money will be more than
>>enough to save Chinese children for education.
>>
>BTW, why not the other one put on a P pre-fix? 
>
>Tingli Pan
>>
>
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:44:32 GMT

In article <ldbeulINN9jb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>In article <BvtpnI.Cnn@cs.psu.edu> jyw@phys.psu.edu (Jin-Yuan Wu) writes:
>>>
I've talked about ignorance, here it is.

>FYI: the silicon valley in Chinese is Si Gu. It has been that name for
>decades. Recently, more mainlanders come in Si Gu and they have surprised
>the people: they rename   "Si Gu"   as   "Gui Gu".
>I checked my dictionary, there is no Gui in Chinese. Ha, CR made it!

Your Dictionary. So what? There are tons chinese dictionaries around.
What a Jin Di Zhi Wa.

   --     ___           -- -|-
   /     /  /           /  -+-
  /+-+  / \/          /+-+ -|- 
 / +-+ / /           / +-+ -+-

That's the best I can do. One is Xi, (I don't think it is Si. But I
might be wrong. We all know we don't have 30% education budget!) The
other is Gui. They have the same meaning, exactly the same but with
different pronounciation. I've 2 metallurgical degrees, and I know what
I'm talking. Si is the symbol in chemistry.  

BTW, now I understand why sometimes Mr. Yeh has an attitude problem
after writing those characters.

......
>
>FYI, there is a place in the Front Gate of Beijing used to be named as
>Da Za Lan, now people called it Da San Lan. There is a town in Taipei
>called Mu Za, it shouldn't never be called Mu San.
>
If you want to talk about this, please consult your friends from Beijing
first.(if you have any)

>>BTW: I did not recognize "Quei" when you wrote "Wu San Quei" in your previous 
>>post. Could you kindly tell me what is your original meaning?
>>
>Wu San Quei (Qui) was the person who opened Beijing City Gate to let Qing
>army enter into Beijing. His character was same as Qin Kuai who betrayed
>his country.
>
Steve, Steve, could you stop doing that again. The Gui in Wu San Gui is
a wood with 2 clays. (No way, for me to write the chinese again) While
the Hui in Qing Hui is a wood and a meeting.

And General Wu didn't open the gate of Beijing city. Seems the 30%
doesn't include history.

Now I find some fun in this net. Even I can be an instructor for
Chinese. It is great.

Tingli Pan
From: ast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Abraham Shen Tong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: *-*-*-*  Yeh  Shannon  is a spy of CCP government !!! *-*-*
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:38:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.81331
Reply-To: ast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Abraham Shen Tong)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ast@huey.cc.utexas.edu



Dear netters:

 I found out this BIG news after I had read Yeh Shannon's messages all

over the network,  and the things he is doing.

Isn't this great!!

Abraham S. Tong

Austin,  TX
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: usys@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CLARENCE J MAZIARZ JR)
Subject: Do not hold yourself so high, you are nothing
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:30:03 GMT

>
>I believe most CSS here at U.S have hearts for China.  In case 
>we can do something for our motherland, we will. 
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    God bless you, China. Somebody is going to hurt you again. 
    
      
>I will sponse a child in the countyside in  China.  If I can do 
>something which will make Chinese people rich and happy, I will.  I do not 
>think that green cards can change our Chinese hearts.  
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    You still have hearts? Maybe hearts are there, soul is missing.
 
>Looking back into 
>Chinese history, you can see that how many times Chinese people, especially 
>intellegents, were hurt by political reasons.  How do you sure it is not 
>going to happen again?  We just want not being hurt, we are not trying to 
>hurt anyone.

    So many times, so many Chinese were hurt for political reasons. But 
    what remain deep in their heart are the dignity of being a Chinese.       
    They do not betray their nation, their people.

>
>Please think about it, Shannon.  If you really care about Chinese PEOPLE,
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>please begin by caring about your fellow CSS here at U.S. We are part of 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Chinese PEOPLE.  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>- Gretchen
>  

   Where is you basic logic, man? 






















Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yli@engr.latech.edu (Yueming Li)
Subject: Re: Looking for guy from BBI, Beijing..
Reply-To: yli@engr.latech.edu
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:58:42 GMT

I am sorry I don't know anything about him.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dyu@engr.latech.edu (Duli Yu)
Subject: Re: Protection Bill Signed into Law.
Reply-To: dyu@engr.latech.edu
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:22:55 GMT
From: mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Just a quote
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:06:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Oct9.220651.14180
Organization: The Ohio State University


	"Across my home has grown the shadow
	 Of a cruel and senseless hand
	 Though in some strong hearts
	 The love and truth remain

	 It has taken me this distance
	 And a woman's smile to learn
	 That my heart remains among them
	 And to them I must return"


				--Jackson Browne
From: ast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Abraham Shen Tong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: ***** Yeh Shannon,  You are insane !!! *****
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:40:11 GMT
Reply-To: ast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Abraham Shen Tong)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ast@huey.cc.utexas.edu


Several things I don't get it:

(1) Where the hatred of Shannon come from.

I would say that because HE already HAS his greencard,  by spending 
thousands of $s, he just cannot stay calm and watch other Chinese to
get the same thing he has.    Dirty jealousy !!!

(2) Why Shannon treat CCP as his mother.

Because the CCP pays Shannon to do this.  Shannon is the grandson of 
the dead Ye Jian-Ying, the hard liner. He got a lot money from the CCP
which is from the common Chinese people.   If the CCP is down,  the 
money source of Shannon will be dry.   


question:   anybody knows Yeh Shannon's  address/phone number ??? 



ast
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: fsbrn12@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Andrew Hsu)
Subject: Re: What abbreviation is ALOHA?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  9 Oct 1992 10:25 EDT  

>> 
>>I do wonder whether there's a general term for Hawaiin natives
>>similar to "Indians" for American natives?  I guess they should be 
>>called "Chinese" or "Japanese", in the same spirit as "Indians". :-)
> 

   Polynesian.

   Polynesia == poly + island

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu)
Subject: Re: ROC vs PRC
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:46:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.202613.23465@tamsun.tamu.edu> x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.171502.4456@cbfsb.cb.att.com> ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu) writes:
>>
>>	No question about it. Any R&D, without immediate sight of
>>	profitability, will get little support in Taiwan. Most
>>	...
>>
>I think a big country can not afford without adequate basic research,
>Taiwan can do until now when you become a direct competitor of the
>US and Japan except for a few more years, Taiwan can still depend on
>the mainland for growth. This is an advantage of Taiwan over S. Korea.

	First of all, I AM NOT INTERESTED in the issue of ROC vs PRC;
	I was responding to a posting that I thought was ill-written
	by writing a satire. The point you raised here has long been
	discussed around 10 years ago (and is still being debated).
	One thing you should consider in this argument is, you need to
	make what people want to buy and, in most cases, they may not
	be high-tech at all. 

>new high tech. I think they are already ahead of Taiwan in terms of
>high tech. So Taiwan could suffer if it does not quickly catch up with
>S. Korea with Taiwan gradually lose the cheap labor of mainland.

	Let me put it this way, S. Korea is in a different path than
	Taiwan; that does not mean one path is better than the other.
	Taiwan can only afford high-tech industries in a few area and
	not most area. Every country has to recognize her own strength
	and her limit; no everyone can afford in high-tech high-risk
	business.

	Yes, you guess it. IMO, Taiwan model can not be applied to China
	except the phiosophcal aspect of letting people do their own
	business.  For China, a new economical policy needs to be formed
	in next ten years to increase her productivities and fortuntes
	and not just doing it by exporting. That's why I see it is more
	critical to carry out political reforms; Taiwan's model of
	political reform has few chances to succeed in China (or it
	would be too late).

	Enough of my stupid opinions; I really know little in this issue.


>>	KMT government should also be questioned for how those 30% of
>>	educational budget is spent and be hold the responsibility for
>>	further reforms on the education systems. I admire China
>>	government for doing such a good job to students everywhere in
>>	China; she does not seem to have such problems.
>
>I think the main difference here is accounting method. In mainland,
>a lot of the costs associated with education are either free or at a
>nominal cost. In Taiwan where almost everything counts in terms of

	I have no disagreement except to say there is no free lunch
	anywhere; you pay it one way or the other.

Yung-Kao Hsu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ren@turtle.cis.ohio-state.edu (li-ming ren)
Subject: Protest from Beijing !
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:39:43 GMT

A call from china saied CG lodged strong protest in all major party
newspapers about the protection bill. Anybody has more detailed information
about this? Please post it on the net.



Liming Ren		       |    Dept.of Computer and Information Science
Office WE109 , 2-7039          |    The Ohio State University
ren@cis.ohio-state.edu         |    Columbus, OHIO43210
From: tsma@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: EARTHWORM-QUESTION?
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:45:00 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Let's have one interesting topic.
A few days ago, me and my friends had a chat about one little creature
"earthworm", some of species can grow really big. (3m approximately)
Unfortunately, none of us knows this creature very much, and we talked
too much on how to use this creature to catch fish. 
Now my question is , do earthworms make a clearly audiable sound?
If they do, how they do it?
If any one knows the answer, please e-mail to me or post it.


Thank
                          -TSMA@KUHUB.CC.UKSNS.EDU
From: yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: (FWD upon requestion) Response to Shannon Yeh
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:22:38 GMT
Organization: New York University

usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:

>In fact, there were people fooled by CCP propaganda as to regraded CCP better  
>than their mother. Here is another true story (I will bet Yang Ze will doubt  
>it, but it's OK). It happened during CR in the countryside in Zhejiang  
>Province. The house of a farmer was on fire. The farmer first rushed into the  
>house to rescue Chairmao's statue. After he put the statue at a safe place, he  
>rushed in to rescue his mother. But his mother had already severly burned  
>(still alive, thank God). I wondered what would Shannon do if he were in such a  
I won't exclude the possibility of such an event after I have read so 
many posts of yours, especially because the story is said happening in 
your hometown.

>Carl

Ze Yang
From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: People
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:08:50 GMT

In article <92286.134513WXG101@psuvm.psu.edu> <WXG101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> >
> >>   Please be reminded
> >>   that ALL those Chinese students were sponsored by the Chinese government
> >>   when they were at colleges in China.
> >>
> >    GUESS WHERE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT GOT THE MONEY TO SPONSOR THESE  
STUDENTS
> > FOR COLLEGE EDUCATION???
> 
> > No need to guess. From Chinese people, right?
> > So, those students owe Chinese people, OK?
> 
> Who are Chinese people? Are these students and their parents not Chinese  
people
> ? If Chinese people had a higher gross income and were tax-payers, do you  
think
> it is fair to say these students own tuition to the government?


I remember during CR, there were only two kinds of people. People (ren2 min2)  
and enemy (di2 ren2). Those who unfortunately fell into the catagory of enemy  
were no longer people (ren min). 

According to Shannon's definition, "ren min" are those who support CCP, CG and  
his 9201 movement. Otherwise, they are not "ren min" even though they may still  
be Chinese. Therefore, in Shannon's mind, there is extremely big difference  
between Chinese and Chinese "people". I guess sooner or later, more than 80% of  
Chinese will be just Chinese "something" instead of Chinese "people".

80% is a very conservative figure. According to Shannon, only he, his 9201 gang  
and 4 million (may be even less because Shannon does not like some of them) CCP  
members have the privilege to become people. The rest of the Chinese, more than  
1 billian of them, are just something with a human brain and human body  
(Shannon has not gave us the definition yet).

Shannon, please give us a definition as soon as possible. Otherwise if others  
ask us who and what we are, we can only answer: We are "Chinese something" who  
remained to be defined. 


Carl

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china