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From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Strats from Mexico
Date: 30 Jul 1992 05:58:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

I'm the one who posted 'praise' about his Mexican-made strat.  I bought it
at Guitar Center for $250.00.  I do *not* shop there, but heard their ad
about one of their weekly 'annual' sales.  I seem to recall something about
'an American legend' or some such pap 'implying' american-made (read 'usa-
made') stratocaster.  I checked it out, and they were quite honest about the
fact that they were made in Mexico ("painted in Ensenada due to EPA
restrictions in the US"; right, different atmosphere south-of-the-border).
The main difference (I have heard) is that they are not bench-tested or
guranteed intoned, as the USA-made ones are.  I checked out about ten,
found one that seemed real close, sounded great, felt good, looked right
(bone white, dark neck) and bought it.  No complaints, although I 'defeated'
the trem (had the springs loosened so it lays flat; I'll bend 'em one at a
time if I wnat to at all).  There *are* hardware differences, and I'll
probably get a set of 'real' pickups for it.  But at $250, I'm a happy rhythm
dude.
Moral: try it, buy it, but don't spend too much!

Michael K. Breen
singing and philosophzing
(and not a ding on her yet!)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: fullerto@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton)
Subject: Re: HELP:  String breakage of the High E on an acoustic.
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:10:33 GMT


>In article <1992Jul25.051708.2615@u.washington.edu>, insomnia@carson.u.washington.edu (Ryan Klemmer) writes:
>>
>> What are some good brands of strings in the mid (10-20 dollars) price
>> range?  I keep breaking the high E string on quite new (1 month old)
>> strings.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>

	Don't percieve this as a flame...If you play at least a half an hour
five days a week or therabouts, then after a month your strings are quite OLD.
Your skin oil corrodes them, and the frets divot them. If your picking
technique is hard at all, then I could expect the high E to break after that
much time.

	The acoustic strings that I like are Martin Marquis and D'Addario.
If you are used to paying $10 - 20, shop around for better deals. You can halve
that.

			Good Luck, and best wishes
			Tim Fullerton
			fullerto@cis.ohio-state.edu
From: d1hej@dtek.chalmers.se (Henrik Jonsson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: SLASH- Great or WHAT??!!?
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:42:26 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

jgray@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Jeff Gray) writes:

>If, after reading this defense of my expression, you still feel that I
>abused my privileges as a contributor to this discussion or that I
>am incapable of "communicating with a modicum of articulation," well, then...

>...bite me.

Yea!!! Right on, dude!! Hack'n'SLASH em to pieces... Excellent!!:)

( Sorry but I recently saw 'Bill and Teds Bogus Journey' and I hate 
  Steve Vai's music (maybe its just his whammybar))

/ Henrik J


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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Satch's new album!
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:14:28 GMT

I'll give it a 90! You can hum to it! ;-)
 
Fav cuts: Friends, Cryin, Rubina's Blue Sky Happiness, Summer Song,
Motorcycle Driver.
 
Love that tone! Good wah work too! Esp. on "New Blues"
If you haven't heard it yet, he didn't give up the whammy as rumored.
There is a bit less whammy than usual, and his tone is deeper in general.
 
If you love Satch, you'll love this!
 
--Eric
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup)
Subject: Re: Chord questions
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:06:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.165233.9113@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden) writes:
>Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>I screwed up my chord entry.  It should be:
>
>	xoo  
>	------
>	||||||
>	------
>	|||2||			
>	------
>	||||3|
>	------
>
>So that it looks a D w/o a F#.  Another version that I am curious about
>is the D w/0 the A.
>
>Sorry to have confused the hell out of anyone!
>
>Kevin

Well, this would indeed be a Dsus2 like your friend said (for the same
reasons I mentioned in my last post; no third, but a second instead).
Actually, that's only if you play the high E.  You don't have an o or an
x above the string so I don't know if you want it played or not.  Without
the high E it just D5.

Actually there is another intepretation for what I thought you meant in
your first post.  
>	xoo  o
>	------
>	||||1|
>	------
>	|||2||			
>	------
>	||||||
>	------
I think I called it a D7sus2.  It might be more appropriate to call it
a D9 because the low D is the root so the high E would actually be a ninth
not a second.  Technically you need an F# (the 3rd) to make the ninth
but the chord does have more of the flavor of a ninth.  You could also
claim a Dm9, but you'd technically need an F in there.  But the
context in which the chord is played will determine it's feel.

What exactly do you mean by a D w/o the A.  If you mean XXDGDF#
I'd probably take G as the root and say the chord has more of
a G flavor and say it's a fragmented Gmaj7 since there's no B.  Of course
using my previous reasoning it would be Gmaj7sus2.  If you include the
low A XADGDF# you might have an D/G or Dadd4 or however they notate
an added 4th.  If you mean, XXDXDF# you just have root and a 3rd which
(or a root and an augmented 5th depending on how you look at it) and it
wouldn't really be a chord per se.  As you can see these things are very
subjective.  Hope I helped a little.

Daniel









Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jf@decuk.uvo.dec.com (Jason Flowers)
Subject: Re: Improvisation where has it gon
Keywords: lead guitar
Reply-To: jf@decuk.uvo.dec.com (Jason Flowers)
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd. CSC/UK
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:29:47 GMT




	I like learning solo's note for note from TAB, I think it's great
	practice, how can you improvise proficiently until you've learnt
	what its possible to do?

	J

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From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Can I get chords here?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:37:59 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

Can I obtain the chord changes to songs by The Smiths and Morrissey
from the net? I guess that would be an ftp.

Or, if someone has some songs worked out and wants to just e-mail me
them or send copies by regular mail that would be great, you would be
blessed and I could send you a tape or something for your efforts.

Is there a FAQ file somewhere for this newgroup?

Thanks much!

Richard

karty@cs.washington,edu

.
.
.
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From: shaltbj2@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Beetle Futons Shaltbj2 Computers)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Strat pricing
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:00:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

This post is a bit premature, but since I saw the this thread running, I decided
to throw in my 2 cents.

If you are looking to buy a Strat and can hold out til XMAS time, do so.
Guitar Center, just outside Chicago, has a year end sell on all of their
equipment.  They have a special sale on Strat's.  Last year, they were
selling them for $250  <---yes, a NEW Strat for $250.  

If I hear about the sale, I will definitely post.  For those in the Chicago
area, check it out.  It is a really nice store, and every selling holiday
occassion, they have good sales.


-Brandon


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ury@humus.cs.huji.ac.il (My Friend Of Misery)
Subject: Gary Moore
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:47:26 GMT

How "gooood" guitar player is Gary Moore (Or however you spell it) ?
I heard an incredable solo played by him, and I want to buy a CD, if he
is allwais that good.
-- 
Ury Segal          | The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the 
ury@cs.huji.ac.il  | University or IBM, Digital, Apple, HP or anyone else.
Phone: 02-971187   | They are mine, LO MIN HAHEFKER, as Bialik once said.
From: jsjacob@soda.berkeley.edu (John S. Jacob)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: U2:The Edge
Date: 28 Jul 1992 07:33:55 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
Keywords: U2:the edge

In article <Bs1D05.DF2@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Michael.Bremford@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mike Bremford) writes:
>

>E+-0-----0-- Play the first one over and over, then switch to the second one.
>B+-12----10-
>G+-9-----9-- Can't remember which song is from... should recognise it.
>D+---------- This style stuck in my mind when I saw it for some reason. He sems
>A+---------- to play a lot of two or three string combos, carrying the tune/riff
>E+---------- on just one of them.
>

This is from I Will Follow. The open E string gives it away... But
yes, the Edge played a lot of octaves with something added in -- like
a fifth or a fourth. If you take the example above (the second one),
and put your pinkie on the 12th fret of the E string, there's a shape
the Edge uses a lot, too. Let's see, there's an octave and a fourth.
Move the shape to the second, third and fourth strings:

E -------
B -- 12 -
G -- 11 -
D --  9 -
A -------
E -------

Here's another fav. It's an octave and a fifth. Have at it.

	John

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From: US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Question on 5th
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:06:40 GMT
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY

In article <1992Jul30.155926.10166@newscan.canada.sun.com>
mario@theglove.Canada.Sun.Com (Mario Dorion # extra topping $1.75) writes:
 
>
>Could anybody tell me how to play 5th chords, like A5 or G5, etc...
>
>Mario
 
 
 
 
 
Remove the 3rd for X5 'power chords', etc.
 
 
 
     E A D G B E
 G5  3 5 5 x x x
 C5  x 3 5 5 x x
Cadd9x 3 5 5 3 3  (sounds good as a 'power chord' too.)
 
 
Mike James
From: chc30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Syd Barrett
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:10:04 GMT
Reply-To: chc30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Eric Jorgensen's letter about Gilmour and Barrett was fairly accurate
except that Syd Barrett was thrown out of Pink Floyd and Gilmour brought
in to replace him on guitar. The reason behind this was Syd was behaving
ever more irrationally and it was driving the rest of the band mental. He
would stand on stage staring into the distance and play one string all
night and when he appeared on TV shows he would refuse to mime. He would
stand and not sing and also he tended to look a bit of a mess as well.
This was due to the drug habit Barrett developed, primarily LSD, which
left him practically schizophrenic. He did go into mental hospitals at
various stages after leaving Floyd. During one of the Saucerful sessions
Syd was playing a new song singing "Have you got it yet". Roger and the
rest of the band couldn't follow the tune and after an hour or so of this
Roger caught on to the fact that Syd kept changing the tune all the time
as he was singing "Have you got it yet ?".
    Gilmour actually taught Syd how to play guitar which was another
reason he was a good choice for the band. Syd and Dave never recorded
together, Saucerful of Secrets was a mish mash of material recorded during
the Piper sessions and new material that Gilmour played on. The band
wanted to keep Syd on as a "Brian Wilson" figure writing in the background
with Gilmour playing live with the band. Syd at one stage seemed happy
with this but his manager Peter Jenner persuaded him that he was what held
the band together and they needed him. One day the Floyd limo didn't pick
Syd up to go to the studio and Dave was in. The Madcap Laughs and  Barrett
were two solo LPs Syd did after Floyd and show the direction the band
have taken had he stayed on. They are fairly raw in places and the guitar
work varies from the plodding chunka-chunka acoustic to some very nice
electric guitar. I suppose he was a little confused then and had good and
bad days. The Madcap LP has some dialogue between the control room & Syd
and he isn't really very sure of what he's at. Some days he would turn up
with no strings on his guitar and when they got some he would detune the
guitar and play one string. The cover of Madcap shows an orange and blue
wooden floor, this was Syd's flat at the time and the day before the photo
session was due he painted the bare boards that colour for no apparent
reason.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon)
Subject: Different Strat(ocaster) Models (was Re: Strat pricing)
Organization: NIKHEFK
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:37:29 GMT

spray@convex.com (Rob Spray) writes:

>In <Bs3rxy.79y@quake.sylmar.ca.us> jeff@quake.sylmar.ca.us writes:

>>Also, a friend told me that Guitar Center recently offered *American*
>>Strats for less than $300 - I can't confirm this, must've missed
>>that radio ad...  makes me wonder, though.

>Mexico is in North America.  Maybe that was "american Strats"
>                                             ^

First off, yep Mexico is in North America.  Gotta be careful.
Secondly, you gotta be REAL careful with the names.  There is
an official Fender product which is called a Strat, and *another*
one called a Stratocaster, and they are NOT THE SAME BEAST.
The "Strat"s are the ones the catalogue says are "slightly
more modern versions of the classic Stratocasters".  This includes
the "Strat Plus" which to me looks very classic except for those
darned Lace pickups, as well as the HRR Strat which looks more
like a Charvel shred machine than a Stratocaster.  Or maybe it is
the HMR Strat?

Anyway you have to be very careful with what you call it if you
are trying to talk about a specific model!!

THIRD: I, too, have seen a weird, USA-made Stratocaster in the $300
range (I think the one I saw was more like $450 but at a
reasonably-priced store (this one was not) it would've been around
$325 or so).  This was about a year ago, and the story I got was that
it was some limited production run and got cancelled, or something.
The story sounded funny, but the guitar was OK.  Olympic white, maple
neck (no rosewood), vintage-style trem ... it was almost as if they'd
made a test run of the Mexican Standard Stratocasters in the USA first
or somesuch (the Mexican Standards have the vintage-style trem bridge
saddles, the American Standard Stratocaster has a slightly different
trem with heavier saddles).  Strange.  So maybe this is what you
saw?!?

Maybe the "which Strat" question should be in some FAQ.  I'll
volunteer to scrounge up at least part of the info (how about
the different types of "Standard Stratocasters" I'll do if
there is interest, somebody else can do the "Strat" section
since I don't know anything about any of the "modern" versions.)
Please email me if there is interest.

					JT
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: fullerto@carp.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton)
Subject: Re: Advice on Boogie Studio .22 amp wanted...
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:22:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.184632.11997@unixg.ubc.ca> dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller) writes:

>
>This discussion has been running around for quite a while now. Peavey seems
>to have really stepped up the quality and sound on their tube amps, such
>that the Bravo and Classic amps rival or surpass similar Fenders and even
>Boogies (and approach Dumbles?). And cheaply, too. What gives? Is there
>a company actually doing something right for a change?
>

	Opinion only:

	I can very much agree that Peavey is leaps and bounds better than
it was a few years ago,... BUT... in the low price range, I prefer the 
Fender Princeton Chorus. On the whole, I think Boogies absolutely crush
the Peaveys. Have you ever heard a Mark IV with EVs? Woah!!!

	I've yet to hear a triaxis preamp (I am using a quad) and I have
not, myself, played any of the more elite amps (real Soldano and the like)
as I live in an artistically bankrupt hick town whose market could not support
the sale of these, so I cannot comment on their tone.

	In a nutshell, despite Peavey's profound improvement, I would still
go into debt to pay the extra grand for the Boogie.

		end of opinion.


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Subject: Re: Paganini and guitar
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:32:04 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <15582@star.cs.vu.nl> mwelie@cs.vu.nl (Welie van M) writes:
>
>Hi there,
>
>I recently bought an album of Julian Bream on which he plays
>the Grand Sonata in A (3 parts) of Paganini. According to
>the booklet Paganini used to perform with guitarist Luigi
>Legnani. The violin would play solo and the guitar would
>accompany. This recording is a edition where Bream incorporated
>the violin part in the guitar part. I think the result is quite
>good.
>
>I haven't heard anything for guitar and violin yet,so I was
>wondering if somebody knows about these pieces of Paganini
>and what is it like. Are the guitar parts as difficult as the
>violin parts probably will be ? 
>
>A friend of mine plays violin but he's not quite a Paganini if
>you know what I mean ! I hope the pieces are not to difficult
>so we can play them if they are worth it.
>
>Bye
>
>



i heard this thing played on violin and it was INSANE!
sit down steve vai... it's definitely worth a listen
if you can hear the violin version..

aash
-- 
aash@{ms.uky.edu|ukma.bitnet|ukpr}    "the only thing i ever really wanted to
{backbone|rutgers|uunet}!ukma!aash     say was wrong, was wrong, was wrong."
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup)
Subject: Re: 63 Les Paul's value
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:18:58 GMT

In article <.10.0@nd.edu> @nd.edu (Jim Michaels) writes:
>
>     I have a tobacco sunburst 1963 Les Paul standard in very good 
>condition.  Everything is original except the tuning pegs, which I 
>replaced with Grover's a while back.  Anybody have any idea what my 
>guitar might be worth?  What are music stores asking for similar 
>guitars?  Thanks a lot.

A place called the American Guitar Center in Wheaton, Maryland has a
guitar described as the following in their catalog:

GIBSON LES PAUL CUSTOM, 1963, WHITE, PAF'S, VGC    $1995.00

VGC is very good condition and PAF's are the original Patent Applied For
humbuckers.  I don't know if this is a reasonable price but it's what
their asking for it.  By the way, what kind of machine heads does
Gibson normally put on their Les Pauls?  I bought a used Les Paul Custom
a couple of years ago and it had Grover machine heads.  I assumed they
were the original ones.  Also, is there a way to date your Les Paul from
the serial number?  I'd like to know how old mine is.  I got it for a
really good price so I assumed it wasn't too old.  But I had to replace
some of the frets recently and I thought, gee, if the frets were pretty
worn out when I got it, maybe it's older than I think.




Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: neufeld@med.umich.edu (Russell Neufeld )
Subject: Acoustic Guitar Amps???
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 14:12:38 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Originator: neufeld@wolverine.math.lsa.umich.edu


Anyone know of any good amps for acoustic guitars?  I'm pretty sure Peavey
makes one but I've never seen it.  Sometimes I've found a good bass amp
amplifies an acoustic better than a guitar amp, but nothing that's
too spectacular.  Just wondering . . .

Russell Neufeld
neufeld@math.lsa.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab
From: gphelan@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Phelan)
Subject: REQ: Scarecrow (John Mellencamp)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 08:42:44 GMT


Could someone please post the tab To Scarecrow by John Mellencamp.

Thanks

Your pal

Greg
From: jhakala@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jay S. Hakala)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: THE MOST DISPENSABLE GUIT
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:33:44 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

>>
>>How about that other guitarist in MegaDeath...Cause
>>pompus bastard Dave Mustain insists on doing lead-vocals
>>and playing lead-guitar....while the other bozo just
>>plays rythem.....
>
>What?? The other "bozo" is the LEAD guitarist Marty Friedman.  Marty
>plays pretty much all of the leads.  Mustaine only plays a couple leads.
>As for the "bozo" just playing rhythm, sorry, Mustaine plays pretty much
>all the rhythm.
>
>Marty is a phenomenal player.  Mustaine is a great rhythm player (and
>good at leads, too).  Mustaine may be cocky, but he is undeniably good
>at playing and writing... and singing? :-) yeah, I like his voice, too.
>
>Megadeth is THE speed metal band out there, especially from a guitar
>point of view.  Metallica can't touch these guys anymore.  Of course, my
>opinion.
>
>Eric Shen
>ebshen@athena.mit.edu
>
I agree with you eric...MegaDeath jams....

I got an even better one for dispensible guitarist:

CC DeVille....formerly of POISON.....He was so dispensible that
he was despenced OF..........good riddence to that same solo in
every song playing mutha F&*&%$#.....

Although some poison song are cool....
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mvinskus@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael J Vinskus)
Subject: Re: Pat Metheny
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:04:20 GMT

In article <Bs1CEw.Cxr@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Michael.Bremford@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mike Bremford) writes:
>
>Heres A Fan... I have only heard "American Garage" which I like a lot (Sp. Track
>4, whose name escapes me...) If you can recommend anything I should look out
>for...

I've got three favorite Metheny albums.  The first one is the 
"Pat Metheny Group."  It's got a cool tune on it called "April Joy" which I 
play a lot.  The next on the list is "Bright Size Life" featurning Jaco 
Pastorius.  The third is "Questions and answers"  which is quite excellent.



>  But if you wanna talk about Jazz Guitarists, try Emily Remler! This woman made
>me realize there was life beyond Rock/Blues!
>
>	Cheers... Mike

She's pretty good.  I saw her live and she was acting like a bitch.  Nice 
playing, too bad she died from a heroin overdose.

-- Mike.