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From: rcormac@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Cormac (Xbattle -rcormac) Russell)
Subject: Help! need references for a paper!
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:34:54 GMT
Distribution: alt.drugs, talk.politics.drugs
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Help! I am writing a paper about drug prohibition/legalization and I
need some info that I didn't archive from here (limited disk space). A
while back somebody posted a portion of the DEA drug schedule, if
somebody could e-mail me it I would really appreciate it (I need the
stuff soon since the paper was due a week ago...). Also a while back
somebody posted a drug company's product lists that included a very
low price for medicinal cocaine. I need that as well so that I can
prove that prohibition puts the profit in the cocaine industry. Also
if Lamont or somebody who is respectable sounding (i.e. some sort of
chemistry degree or work in the field) could gimme a quote on how MDMA
seems to attack nerve axons at serotonin receptors (did I get that
right) and thus moderate use with time spacing should be safe, I would
appreciate it. Currently the only source I have is from the
Ecstasy-FAQ and that isn't 'respectable'. Finally, does anybody have
exactly or at least a decent paraphrase, of what Clinton said at the
2nd presidential debate about his views on drugs and legalization (the
bit about his brother...). Anyhow, if you post here I should see it,
but please e-mail me just in case! Thanks a lot!
   blessed be,
      Cormac
--
Retch The Grate aka Cormac Russell    Amiga, The Computer for The Creative Mind
                      rcormac@occs.cs.oberlin.edu           
Vote Libertarian in 92! Marrou/Lord!




Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Incandescents for Growing
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:09:38 GMT

an2509@anon.penet.fi writes:
: How well do common incandescent light bulbs work for growing weed?

Not too well. Too much output at the red end of the spectrum, including
way too much heat.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: seger@cognet.ucla.edu (Carol Seger)
Subject: miraa / khat / qat
Originator: seger@hannibal.cognet.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:48:53 GMT

From: seger@cognet.ucla.edu (Carol Seger)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: miraa / qat / khat
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Keywords: 

Thought I'd introduce some real life experience into this
discussion. 

I lived in Kenya for a year where khat is grown and is legal.
In Kenya it is called miraa, and supposedly the best is grown
near Meru National Park. I certainly know that a lot of people
near Meru chew it -- when I was there, even children had a few 
twigs in their mouths (without undue worry on the part of their 
parents, either.) Miraa also is found in other areas and is 
particularly popular on the coast among the Swahili people 
(an Islamic culture originating in the mixing of native
African and Arabic cultures many centuries back.) As others have
mentioned, a lot of miraa is exported to Somalia and Ethiopia
(and from there, probably to other Islamic countries) from Kenya;
I believe it was illegal in Somalia until the government there
disintegrated.

In Kenya miraa is sold fresh in bunches of twigs with leaves at
the end. Leaves are maybe the size of a quarter, if I remember
correctly. We were told that people usually chewed an entire
bunch.

My husband bought a bunch once and we tried to figure out what to
do with it. We chewed a bit, but that lasted for about 1 stalk --
the stuff tastes absolutely vile. Then we made tea and choked
it down. No interesting effects, but we did have a lot of trouble
getting to sleep a few hours later. I suspect that it may require
some practice to learn to enjoy it. Also, I believe that it is usually
chewed with lime (a base) [similar to coca leaf in the Andes], which
we didn't do.

As I understand it, miraa is perhaps somewhat stronger than caffeine,
but weaker than ethanol or THC. Comparisons to crack are pretty
ridiculous, unless crack is a lot weaker than I have been led to
believe.

Carol.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: prado@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Louis A. Prado)
Subject: Recipe for CRACK & Personal Experiences Requested
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:37:20 GMT

I expect to get flamed for this post, but Crack is about the only drug that
is readily available to me (back home in Queens of course :) ).  First of
all, does anyone know exactly what Crack is made of (just Coke and Baking
Soad?).  Please E-Mail or post a recipe.

What is the general opinon on the net of coke & its derivatives ?  And to
you real stoners out there, what would be the drug you would recommend to
someone who just wanted to try drugs once ?

Thanks.
From: dgross@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Dave Gross)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Marijuana receptor discovered
Keywords: anandamide -- "internal bliss"
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:06:32 GMT
Reply-To: dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross)
Organization: Mousebat, Follicle, Goosecreature, Ampersand, Spong, Wapcaplet,                 Looseliver, Vendetta & Pang


	(Excerpts from "Keys to Body's Pain Control System Found"
	 Los Angeles Times, 18 December 1992, by T.H. Maugh II)

	Researchers have isolated two key components of the body's pain
control system.  In separate papers published today in the journal Science,
researchers at UCLA report the discovery of the long-sought opiate receptor
in the brain, while researchers at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem say
they have found the natural brain molecule that binds to the marijuana
receptor.

	Discovery of the marijuana receptor could make it possible to develop
drugs that stimulate appetite, control nausea, reduce blood pressure or lower
eye pressure in glaucoma without the patient becoming high.

	It was only two years ago that a team at the National Institute of
Mental Health identified the marijuana receptor in the brain.  Now, biochemists
William Devane, now at the National Institute of Mental Health in Bethesda,
Md., and Raphael Mechoulam of Hebrew University have identified a naturally
occurring molecule, much simpler than the primary ingredient of marijuana,
that binds to the marijuana receptor.  They call the chemical anandamide, from
a Sanskrit word meaning /internal bliss/.

	They may have found only one of many such chemicals, however.  Two
other groups, one at St. Louis University and one at the Bowman Gray School
of Medicine in North Carolina, are reportedly close to identifying other
compounds that bind to the receptor that are chemically quite different from
anandamide.

	The fact that several chemicals bind to the receptor is also
encouraging, because they might make it possible to separate the medicinal
effects of marijuana analogs from their psychoactive effects.

	But before researchers get too far in such efforts, they will attempt
to answer a potentially more significant question: What role do anandamide and
its ilk, along with the marijuana receptor, play in the complex natural
functioning of the brain?

	That may produce many surprises, said biologist William Martin of
Virginia Commonwealth University.  "We will be learning about an entirely new
neurochemical system."
-- 
************************ dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU ***************************
"An electric energy whirled me resistlessly onward; I feared for myself lest it
 should burst its fleshly walls, and glance on, leaving a wrecked frame-work
 behind it."	-- Fitz Hugh Ludlow
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:57:08 GMT

dart@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling) writes:

: >Is it documented? I have heard a lot of legends - I know of no studies that
: >have been done on the subject. If there have been, please point me to them.
: 
: 	Read anything by Robert Anton Wilson.  He mentions the subject
: and bibliographs sources.  May I point you to Cosmic Trigger and Cosmic 
: Trigger II as a start, along with Neuropolitics by Tim Leary.
: 	And may I add, please do not just scour them for this proof or
: disproof.  READ the books.  By the time you are done you won't need
: "documented sources" for anything if you have half an open mind.

I have read all these books, and others. What does that have to do with
proving or disproving an UL?

: >It is not sure that T.L. obtained his first dose through the skin. He thinks,
: >that was the case - and even made the claim that it was - but I have never
: >been convinced.
: 
: 	The first dose administered was not Tim Leary.  It was albert Hoffman
: on April 21, 1943.  He was attempting to make a better version of aspirin.
: Some of the chemicals were accidentally spilled on his hands and he had a
: most interesting bicycle ride home.

Yes, I meant Hofmann - I already posted the correction.  Have you read his
discussion of the incident? I do not believe it mentions anything about him
spilling some on his hands. Neither does it show that he absorbed it through
the skin. He was taking precautions against the, at that time, known toxic
levels of ergot derivatives. As such, he was making sure not to get exposed
to milligram quantities - he was not trying to avoid exposure to microgram
doses.  All the experience proves is that lsd has a very small effective
dose.

: >Once again - if anyone has information on studies that were done to show that
: >lsd is readily absorbed through the skin, I would appreciate them posting the
: >references.
: 
: 	Okay, heres one for you:
: 
: 	I was getting some tabs with little rainbow palmtrees.  They were 
: straight from Berkeley and -- well -- didn't have to eat them.  I was tripping
: balls-up by the time I popped them in my mouth.

Ok, now outline the exact handling process etc, from the time you first saw
them until you popped them.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Leary : : RECENT SIGHTING
From: warewolf@qed.cts.com (John Humphrey)
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:16:12 GMT
Organization: The QED BBS, Lakewood CA

In Article 14 Dec 92 00:41:46 GMT
cavrak@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP (Steve Cavrak)
asks "Still looking for Leary's software company

For a catalog send SASE to
KnoWare
11288 Ventura Blvd. #702
Studio City, CA 91604

Just Say Know

------------------------------
warewolf@qed.cts.com (John Humphrey)  or  qed!warewolf
The QED BBS -- (310)420-9327
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: hoeven@fenk.wau.nl (Joost vd Hoeven)
Subject: INFO: Coolcard pipe
Organization: Dpt. of Physical and Colloid Chemistry, Wageningen University, NL
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:40:15 GMT

I just bought a new pipe, it's as big as a creditcard and is very thin.
The pipe consists of 3 metal parts and 2 rubber/magnetic parts.
The smoke is leaded through "chambers", these chambers are cut out of 
the rubber/magnetic parts, they have a total length of 21 cm.
The smoke condenses on the cold metal, and a lot of dirty stuff 
sticks to the metal parts, you can easily clean it, you just take the 
parts of each-other, and rub them with paper and cleaner.   

The pipe really smokes cool and smooth, and you get super high!
But I wonder what kind of bad stuff condenses on the metal?

If you've ever seen a pipe like this, please tell me!
On the back it says : Rauchen gefa^hrdet ihre gesundheit, so it must
be manifactured in Germany originaly.
--
Joost van der Hoeven                                  hoeven@fenk.wau.nl
"He who sows the ground with care and diligence acquires greater stock
 of religious merit than he could gain by the repetition of ten thousand 
 prayers."  - Zoroaster, Zend-avesta
From: honig@ruffles.ICS.UCI.EDU (David Honig)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: The BOOK: Psychedelics Encyclopedia  3rd edition
Date: 15 Dec 92 07:22:33 GMT


is out.  1991.  by Peter Stafford.  420 pages, 200 illustrations, softcover.
This is the best book in my opinion, covering the gamut from
biochemistry, botany, ethnobotany, to history and culture.
I discovered the 2nd edition about 8 years ago and immediately
scooped it up.  Highly, highly (no pun intended, well, maybe) recommended.

You can order yours from:

Albert Hofmann Foundation
291 S. La Cienega #615
Beverly Hills, Ca 92011-3325 USA

$24.95  Item #541.  Postage in the US/canada is $5 per $20 ordered 1st class,
else $4 every $40 4th class.


ask for a catalog, they have interesting pubs.  Tell them I sent
you, or at least mention the Net.

disclaimer: I'm a member of AHF but that's it.

recommendation: again, this book will turn the most idiotic high-school
moron into a veritable Steve Dyer or Eric Snyder.  Well, close anyway.

David Honig

"Q: What does a C programmer say to an Ada(tm) programmer?
 A: I'll have a burger and fries, no onions."
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: rxg3321@ultb.isc.rit.edu (R.X. Getter)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Originator: rxg3321@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:16:35 GMT

In article <lilf61INN8so@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
>
>Come on, what's all this bullshit, and why do I have to spell
>it out?
>
>There is no "lethal dose" of LSD.

I don't know if this has any relevance, but I read a recent article in
Newsweek about a man who was murdered by a lethal dose of LSD served to him
in jello. If there is interest, I can get the date, the page, and the text
of the article. (it was very short)

>
>There is no "lethal dose" of marijuana.

I imagine it carries the same or similar potential risk to cigarettes.

>
>The only way those two medicants could kill you is if you're
>stomped by the police trying to find the evidence.
>
>I don't personally indulge in either of these, but for goodness
>sake lets deal with facts not official war-on-intelligence b/s/
>
>    
>--
>                    no .sig, have got a life instead.
From: wsonnen@alnitak.usc.edu (Wayne Sonnen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Growing coca in the home
Date: 15 Dec 1992 10:35:11 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alnitak.usc.edu

Hi. I'm new to this news group, so please excuse me if i am asking
a dumb question. Here it is:

I would like to know where (ie. any good references) i can obtain
information on growing coca plants in my home. I would also like
to know where one would obtain the seeds---or how one can find out
where to obtain seeds.

Has anyone done this? Any suggestions/comments would be appreciated.

Thank you.

P.S. please post all general info. to alt.news, if you would like to share
some addresses of where one can buy seeds (for example), you may wish to
send such information to me directly.

wsonnen@alnitak.usc.edu

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: S2822338@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (s2822338)
Subject: Re: Why I don't like MDMA
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:55:26 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Dec16.072727.10229@cognet.ucla.edu> seger@cognet.ucla.edu writes:

> >In other words, doing it in a general social setting _cheapened_ the
> >ecstatic, expansive experiences i'd had previously, and made me really
> >question the validity of my experineces with it & perceptions while on it

It's interesting that you should say this... I have talked with other
people who hold similar views on X, and have not taken x in years,
but they decided that it was the frequency of use that caused the
artificial emotional high.  Taper off and you're fine.  And even barring
doing less tripping, a tight group of friends is always the best tripping
situation I think.  With ANY mind/emotion altering substance.
But, looking at it the other way, (a dangerous assumption at times)
one COULD see it as a demonstration that everyone IS basically good.
And isn't it silly that we all have to take powerful drugs to make
us realize that simple assumption.  Well, it was an awakening for me,
and many people I know, in reducing pessimism.   But, in any LARGE
group, there will always be people who don't quite get it, and need
a little guidance, (well, all of us at times) but the best place
to get that guidance, is your close friends, SO.. back to square one.
Trip with people you Love.  Or at least people you WANT to get to know
better.

Also, MDMA tends to, (from what I know about it's effects on real people)
after a period of time of use, (perhaps immediately) show you not only
all the good things about you, but also the work you have to do with
yourself... some people (I'm not saying that that is the case here)
refuse to accept that they are not perfect... so, back to step one again,
those people need to trip with people that will tell them they are being
ego-oriented, and straighten out the confusion, tripping with people
you barely know, they might not see your ego nature as clearly, and
fail to diagnose that you are working on an issue, or covering one up.
We all do it, and that's what friends are for, to tell us, so we can fix it.

Take care all,

-Erik
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Life (death) imitates usenet - man dies from LSD abuse.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:52:24 GMT

sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney) writes:
: 	Timothy Murphy's death came 17 days after that of a teenager who
: had taken similar tabs, an inquest in Luton was told. Dr Patrick Toseland,
: a toxicologist at Guy's hospital, London, who submitted a report to the 
: hearing, said afterwards that deaths related to the hallucingenic drug LSD
: were extremely rare. ''I hadn't seen one for 23 years until these two this
: year,'' he said. Mr Murphy, 25, collapsed at his home after drinking heavily
: and takin 11 tabs. Dr Toseland said that alcohol could increase the risk
: of death from LSD. An inquest last month was told that Denise Jones, 18,
: died in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, after swallowing similar tabs."
: 
: I guess that answers the question "How much LSD is fatal?". 11 tabs, in this
: poor bastard's case.

Nope. All it means is that the person took some LSD. He also may have had a
few grams of salt shortly before hand, with a meal. Are we to say that, in
his case X grams of salt were fatal? Of course not, that would be stupid.

I suspect that the LSD had nothing to do with the death, and that he died
of acute alcohol poisoning. 

Bill
From: cs101e71@dcl-nxt21.cso.uiuc.edu (cs101 student)
Subject: Re: Incandescents for Growing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:47:33 GMT

In article <Bz9xu6.F7v@news.cso.uiuc.edu> euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu  
(Pheonix 14) writes:
> jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes:
> 
> >I'm no expert, but I just heard on the radio that for growing plants
> >indoors it is best to use a mixture of incandescent and fluorescent
> >light, since neither alone gives them all the spectrum they like.
> >I think incandescent with a little touch of fluorescent is what they
> >said, but I'm sure someone else around here knows more.
>   
>   At a lab i used to work in, tomato plants were grown under about 2/3
> fluorescent, 1/3 incadescent lights in a growth chamber (proportion  
arrived
> at by looking at light bank and guessing...not very scientific of me).
> 
> euclid
> --
> Phoenix 14, euclid@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (preferred)
> standard disclaimers apply
> It will be generally found that those who sneer habitually at human  
nature
> and affect to despise it, are among its worst and least pleasant  
examples

>                                      ----Charles Dickens


I have found that flourescents alone work just fine.  They have made me a  
very happy man.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ap.7511@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] Re: Mescaline
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.7511@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:53:48 GMT


In article <1992Dec17.205057.20590@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (!
>victory@cs.montana.edu (Victor Hanson) writes:
>: I got a question for whoever cares to respond.  About a year or so ago, a few
>: friends and I managed to get a hold of a bunch of Mescaline(spelling?).  We
>: had quite the good time with this stuff.  I guess my questions are:  What is
>: Mescaline?  I have been told that it is a synthetic form of Peyote, or
>: something like that.  If this is not true, what is it made of?
>
>First off - it is highly doubtful that you had mescaline, or even synthetic
>mescaline. The usual drug is lsd - although others have also been sold as
>"mesc".

You love to claim this Bill, but I've taken synthetic mescaline at least 20
times in the last 4 years.  I'm not a chemist, but chemists have told me it
is not difficult for someone with reasonable lab experience.  I've also
eaten peyote and taken peyote extract a number of time, and I've found the
mescaline high to be recognizable as such; distinct from LSD & psilocybin.

>Mescaline is extracted from mescal buttons. The term peyote is used to
>describe any of a number of cactii. It is also used, by some people, as
>a synonym for mescaline.

I suspect that real mescaline found on the street -- by this, I mean white
glassy-looking crystals -- is synthetic.  I also highly doubt one would
*ever* find mescaline extracted from mescal; however, peyote extract seems
relatively common.

Jimi
bobo              In seeking the unattainable,
bowman@reed.edu            simplicity only gets in the way.
Ask not what's inside your head but what your head's inside of. - W. Mace


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From: mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Chromium What ?
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:20:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dept. of CS Ball State University Muncie IN

In article <1gmir8INN3qh@garnet.msen.com> josephs@msen.com (Joseph Stroup) writes:
>She claims that she is taking a product called Chromium Picolinate
>200 Mcg per tab. This wonderfull little over the counter thing is
>supposed to turn your fat into protien ie: no weight gain etc.
She is a victim of quackery.  No drug can magically dissolve/change fat.
Only exercise can do that.
-mAtt