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From: donnell@starfish.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: "Seventh Seal" Tempest in Net Teapot (was: "Oversensitivity")
Keywords: alt.fan.shopping.mall.zombies
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:40:34 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Nov11.210045.10093@ucselx.sdsu.edu> maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Avoid normal situations.) writes:
>In article <kezwfSK00iV441i1BB@andrew.cmu.edu> dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Read) writes:
>>>In article <QeybjSu00WBNM1Eq0q@andrew.cmu.edu>, somebody thought dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Re
>>ad) writes, but actually I (The Stainless Steel Moviegoer) wrote:
>>>
>>[.....]
>>>project a suit of the emperor's new clothes onto films that are foreign-made
>>>but merely incoherent (_The Seventh Seal_, _The Virgin Spring_, _Weekend_,
>>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>I am Daniel Read.  I did NOT write  this rubbish.  One of the people who
>>champions FILM THREAT wrote this and I dislike being associated with
>>such sentiments.  (Such errors in attribution are common on the net --
>>but what a terrible error to fall victim to).  
>
>  Point 1: I am The Stainless Steel Moviegoer, the actual author of the above
>quote, and I don't champion _Film Threat_. Indeed, I've never even seen one
>of their issues anywhere. I was merely pointing out a couple of ways in 
>which one might be "overly sensitive" in one's moviegoing. Talk about errors
>in attribution...

I am probably the guy that you are thinking of as championing Film 
Threat, and I also wrote none of the above.
Talk about oversensitive B}

					--Judex--
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: oddekalv@vxcrna.cern.ch (Oyvind H.Oddekalv)
Subject: Atom Egoyan
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: 4 movies 
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:16:00 GMT

I've been so fortunate to see 3 of Atom Egoyan's movies:
   Next of Kin
   Family Viewing
   The Adjuster

As far as I know, he has made 4. Can anyone tell me the the name of the missing 
movie?

-Oyvind.
----
Oyvind Helland Oddekalv                    E-mail:    
Dept. of Physics                           oddekalv@vsfys1.fi.uib.no 
Univ. of Bergen                            oddekalv@vxcrna.cern.ch 
Norway                                     oddekalv@cernvm.bitnet
                                           vsfys::oddekalv (vsfys=21.341=21845)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Who's the male lead..
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:12:08 GMT

In <1992Nov3.221930.8561@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:

>In article <3852@master.CNA.TEK.COM> mikeq@freddy.CNA.TEK.COM writes:
>>in the film noir classic, DETOUR? Ann Savage played the femme fatale.
>>Who played the alienated loser who ended up being rescued by fate?
>>
>>Mike

>That would be Tom Neal.
>Am I the only Edgar G. Ulmer fan out here?

>					--Judex--

No way.  Ulmer was fantastic.  I will only rest when I get a copy of
ISLE OF FORGOTTEN SINS.

Ian

===========================================================================
The Top - few guys made it...
Between those operators the big time semiotics racket was pretty well
sewed up.  New talent had it tough breaking in.  BUT - from THE NORTH
- there was coming a man who would smash the order and shape an
all-new and all-mighty semiotics empire!  His name was [insert-name].
He had a dream!

  adapted from John Paizs <1985> _Crime_Wave_ without any permission
===========================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: mowen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Guinny)
Subject: Re: Need to solve a mystery...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 14:38:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.075955.618040@zeus.calpoly.edu> delliott@zeus.calpoly.edu (/dev/on) writes:
>Does anyone know what movie the character "Russel Nash" appears in?
>The only clue I have is that the movie did much better on video than 
>in the theatre.  Possible other clues are that he was born in New York
>in 1942, and died a couple of weeks after a boxing(?) match at Madison
>Sqare Gardens in 1987.  First prize on _Movie Jeopardy_ goes to anyone 
>who has the answer... 

	What a question....  I assume you want a hideously full mailbox
next time you log in.  Russel Nash aka Connor McLeod (sp?) appepears in
Highlander.

>/dev/on


	So, what wonderful prizes have I won today?

		Guinny
--
	    Guinny
						"May your path lead to wisdom,
 Strangely strange, but oddly normal             and in wisdom, know ye peace"
						   Arnold Judas Rimmer (sort of)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: dlightne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David E Lightner)
Subject: Reservoir Dogs
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 06:16:29 GMT

WARNING: CONTAINS SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




   I just saw Reservoir Dogs, and although it is a very good gangster film,
some of the violence was so intense that I found it both distracting and
disturbing, and I usually think violence enhances a film.
   The really disturbing scene was the cop being tortured.  I think this sort 
of victum abuse, where the victum has no means of resisting, achieves nothing 
but to psychologically abuse the audience.  It isn't healthy to see completely 
helpless victums being tortured.  *Misery* is the same way.
   All the other aspects of the film, such as the non-linear format, the humor,
and the suspence, were quite excelent.  But again, after the torture scene, I 
had a hard time calming down to enjoy the lighter moments.
   Anyway, I'd really like to talk to people about the film.  Please leave a 
post or drop me some email.

Tycerium
dlightne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Banned film for 9 years
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:18:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.204607.23611@syma.sussex.ac.uk> nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type) writes:
>I saw a full page spread here in the UK in 'The SUN' newspaper
>advertising the release on video of a film banned since 1983 called 
>'The Burning'... has anyone seen this film, and If so, is it any good???
>
>btw its a horror flick... if you didn't guess....
>
>
>neale
>
>
>
>-- 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Neale Type , Computing Service      ///   |   * Current UK Kickoff Champion *
>University of Sussex, Falmer    \\\///    |     nealet @ syma.sussex.ac.uk 
>England.   BN1 9QH               \X//     |      ccfe7 @ cluster.sussex.ac.uk

I have seen it. Nice gore effects by Savini.
It is essentially "Friday The 13th", but with a crazed burn victim, instead
of Jason. Really not all that great, and certainly not worth the attention.
Check it out, if this sort of thing trips your trigger.

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty)
Subject: Re: 'It Conquered The World'
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:15:07 EST

In article <s0454850.21.0@let.rug.nl>
s0454850@let.rug.nl (J.P. Prenger) writes:
 
>
>Hello film-freaks!
>
>I'd like to ask you a question:
>
>On a certain cd Frank Zappa's telling a story about a movie which he thinks
>was named 'It Conquered The World'. Does anybody know anything about this
>particular movie?
>
>The song he then played was called 'Cheapnis'...
>
>Jan Peter Prenger        || [message for all the cute people:]
>University of Groningen  || '- there's more of us ugly mother-fuckers than
>The Netherlands          || you are - hey-y'     ***FRANK ZAPPA***
 
IT CONQUERED THE WORLD is a low-budget Roger Corman sci-fi made in the
late 50s and starring Beverly Garland.  It features a cucumber monster
and a swarm of tiny parasitic bat-creatures.  Campy and fun, but not
very spectacular.
 
Pete.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: "Steve Previdi" <p00020@psilink.com>
Subject: movie info. wanted
Organization: Hirsute Institute
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:31:07 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

	Hi, could some kind soul please post or e-mail me a brief
        synopsis on three movies.

        In your opinion whats the best?

                             
		1) a chinese ghost story#1
		
		2) der todesking
	
		3) nekromantik


	also, where can I rent Meet The Feebles in the Boston area.

thanks steve
  

	
	
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: twod@socrates.demon.co.uk (Ian Parkin)
Subject: Funny fact on sencorship..... 
Distribution: world
Organization: Horrendous Happenings Ltd.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:59:35 +0000

> Just read it: The english sencorship board has banned the word "chainsaw" in 
> movie titles. 
> No kidding. 
> The "Hollywood chainsaw hookers" box for the english market had substituted 
> the word chainsaw with a picture of a chainsaw in a forbidden type sign (I 
> have no idea what they are called, you know, the types fith a single line 
> thrue a circle).
> 
>   /                \   |Gunnar Horrigmo          |
> /____________________\ |gunnarh@sofus.dhhalden.no| 

Whoa ! Hold your horses !

Let's clear this one up. The BBFC do not have the power to ban the use of a 
word within a film title carte blanche. They can reject a film for it's title,
but they cannot say 'Thou shalt not use the word Chainsaw in vain'.

I think the article you read got the wrong end of a very short stick. Due to 
the fact that the BBFC seem to go into apoplexy whenever they see a film with
the word 'Chainsaw' or 'Cannibal' in the title, film distributers / producers
have learnt it is best to avoid such words. Thus an implied or implicit ban
may have arisen. In the world of censorshit it is always best to avoid direct
intimidation of those reviewing. 

The UK version of Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers is known as Hollywood Hookers,
but is listed everywhere as HH ( AKA H Chainsaw H ). There appears the
outline of a chainsaw where the word should be. I suspect the use of such
symbols is more of a narketing ploy rather than an attempt to kid the BBFC.

I just couldn't help but notice Gunnar H. and chainsaws, what an odd 
coincedence eh ?? ( Gunnar H(ansen) is Leatherface in TCM, and also stars in
Hollywood ( circle with diagonal line superimposed over outline of industrial
woodcutting implement ) Hookers - as if you all didn't know ).

Stop Press : Quoting from ITF ( In The Flesh ) #11 - UK magazine :-
	"Texas Chainsaw Massacre is currently under negotiation with a company
	I can't name for a video release in the near future, how it'll fare
	with the BBFC is another question, only time will tell, but don't
	hold your breath."

The saw is family .....

IAP

-------------------------
twod@socrates.demon.co.uk

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner)
Subject: Re: GODZILLA NEWS
Keywords: Godzilla Monster Japan
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:59:52 GMT

In article <iroderic.721107907@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
>In <1992Nov4.155829.18475@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov4.021751.23904@news.columbia.edu> dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner) writes:
>>>This comes straight from someone who works for Toho:
>>>
>>>In the next film in the series to be released in Japan in 1993, 
>>>GODZILLA DIES.
>>>
>>>The film will feature Godzilla fighting MekaGodzilla, a robot created
>>>by the Japan Defense Force to kill him.
>>>
>>>Is this the end of the series in Japan? No - although Godzilla dies, 
>>>Minya lives. Yes, Minya is being brought back, and my guess is that he
>>>will destroy MekaGodzilla after it kills Godzilla.
>>>
>>>So, we will have Godzilla films in the United States, and Minya films
>>>in Japan.
>
>>>David Milner  Columbia University
>
>>I take it that Minya has grown up a little since the old days. I remember the
>>tyke having some problems with full-grown monsters, in the past. 
>>Still find it hard to think of Godzilla as "Mom", but that's me!
>>I keep seeing references to Minya being called "Godzooky" or some such
>>in America, but I have never actualy seen it used. Anyone know if such a
>>stupid name was ever used for the character?
>
>>Danke!
>>					--Judex--
>
>
>Well, It's been a long time since I've been able to see a Godzilla
>movie (it seems to me that Western Canada is better served than
>Eastern Canada when it comes to cable) but I have no recollection of
>of Minya being called Godzooky.  However, there was a bad Saturday
>morning cartoon (big surprise) featuring Godzilla with a clumsy flying
>pre-pubescent monster called Godzooky which was thrown in for "the
>cuteness effect".
>
>Yours and David's postings indicate a much more thorough knowledge of
>these things than I have to share so I'll take the opportunity to ask
>a question.  What the hell was the name of the Godzilla movie where
>Minya gets paired off with a boy and the boy throws rocks on Minya's
>feet to help him blow smoke rings?
>
>Ian

The name of the film is GODZILLA'S REVENGE. Originally, the film was
going to be called MINYA, SON OF GODZILLA, but UPA, the American
distributor, was afraid that people would confuse the film with SON
OF GODZILLA, which had been released just two years before.

The original Japanese name of the film is ORU KAIJU DAISHINGEKI, or
ALL MONSTER BIG ATTACK.


David Milner  Columbia University
inet:   dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu
usenet: ...rutgers!columbia!blackbox!dave
        ...rutgers!columbia!blackbox.cc.columbia.edu!dave
From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Avoid normal situations.)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Banned film for 9 years
Summary: Why the censorship
Keywords: alt.fan.anatomy.brinke-stevens.babe.babe.babe
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:42:49 GMT
Organization: The Special Corps

In article <1992Nov6.192750.13484@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) writes:
>In article <1ddnc5INN16v@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> stuam@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr O A Machado) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov5.204607.23611@syma.sussex.ac.uk> nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type) writes:
>>>I saw a full page spread here in the UK in 'The SUN' newspaper
>>>advertising the release on video of a film banned since 1983 called 
>>>'The Burning'... has anyone seen this film, and If so, is it any good???
>>>btw its a horror flick... if you didn't guess....
>>>neale
>>
>>Yeah, I've seen The Burning. It's about a group of kids on a summer camp
>>or something who decide to play a joke on their weird caretaker. Anyway,
>>it all goes horribly wrong and he ends up getting torched.
>>
>>Most of the film is about this horribly scarred bloke getting revenge
>>(surprise, surprise...) by snuffing kids who are having sex.....
>>
>>Yes, it's the usual "slasher in the woods" type of affair, but it's probably
>>better than most, and it has its moments. The version I saw was reasonably
>>gory, but I think the new re-release has been cut. I'd say the uncut version
>>was worth watching once, but there are far better films on the "nasties" 
>>list.
>>
>
>Tom Savini did the effects for it and wrote a chapter on it in his
>book "Grande Illusions".  I can't imagine why it would be banned,
>the clips I saw seemed no worse than your standard Friday the 13th
>rip-off.
>

  You were expecting _logic_ from censors? Ha!

							Love & kisses,

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						"You fucking whores...
						 That's all you are..."
						-- Anthrax, "Starting Up A 
						Posse"
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Lovecraft movie (sort of)
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 18:42:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.224710.8631@ac.dal.ca>, 01fortec@ac.dal.ca writes:
|> Recently saw an interesting film, if only for its idea. Wish I
|> could remember the title.
|> 
|> Anyways, the movie takes place in post-WWII San Francisco or Los Angeles.
|> In this universe, magic is in common usage, for everything from cooking a
|> roast to forensic invenstigations. The story centers around a private
|> detective called H.P. Lovecraft, who refuses to use magic.  He's hired by
|> a really rich type to find a book that was stolen from his library. The
|> book, of course, is the Necronomicon. 
|> 
|> Anybody else see this movie?
|> 
|> As an aside, I recently found a number of copies of the book at Coles Books.
|> They, of course, had it listed under religion. :-)
|> 
|> Joe Chiasson
|> 01fortec@ac.dal.ca
|> 

I had just posted about this film and there were a few followups
in the past week. Its called _Cast A Deadly Spell_. I wouldn't mind
a sequel of that !
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replic
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:42:52 GMT

no.no/.no. i thought this died..please let it die. 
the implications will be winnie the pooh is the replicant ..
kill this thread now!! please.
---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------

   	


Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Is TRANCERS (AKA FUTURE COP) a cult movie?
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:34:38 GMT

its called trancers here too and it is a cult film. generally speaking any thing full moon creates is an autocult film. 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: bucket of blood
From: "Dana L. Kleinman" <dk4h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:52:44 -0500 
Organization: Freshman, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

anyone ever seen this one--best movie i've seen in awhile. filmed in
five days--imp. number. a beat movie. definate classic--a must see. 


--dana
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,alt.horror
From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty)
Subject: Re: Asian Horror
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:21:20 EST

In article <0ezd8FO00WB_Iac9t_@andrew.cmu.edu>
Todd Keenan Bowman <tb0o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
 
>
>I've recently discovered an Asian Distribution Center (thanks daniel) that
>stocks nearly every Asian video mentioned here. At $2/two nights it sure beats
>the hell out of buying them from VS0m, etc. This weekend I got to watch four
>films:
>
>that matter) and I was wondering if anyone could name the film I saw as well
>as recommend other Asian horror films.
>
>The film starts out with a man and a girl in a underground cavern. Something
>attacks them (Evil Dead style) and drags them 100+ yards through the cavern.
>Then we see three boys walking around this complex of some sort. People at
>this complex get their heads ripped/cut off (very gory) until only one of the
>boys and a older man are left. Every time someone dies a likeness of them gets
>'burnt' into the back of the boy. The girl's head appears and sprouts spider
>legs (she also has a 1-2 foot tongue that looks like a penis that she likes to
>stick in people's mouths). The spider things chases them around until the
>conclusion back in the underground cavern. Pretty excellent with lots of great
>special FX and cinemetography. Any one seen this?
 
Oh MY GOD!!!  I don't believe someone else has seen this film!!!!  It is
called STRANGE STORY....  I posted this description to the network about
3 months ago, and many people were kind enough to respond back with the
translation to the title.  This film is absolutely incredible.  Was your
version the SUBTITLED version?
 
>Anyone want to recommend any other Asian horror films?  I'm especially
>interested in finding the films "Seeding of a Ghost" and "Seventh Curse".
>
 
Try Eccentri-Cinema or NYUE.  They carry both.
 
 
>Also is there anyway to get the Chinese titles (either written or spoken) for
>any of these titles?  It would make these films a hell of a lot easier to find.
No suggestion.  I try to type the design of the Chinese words and send them
through the net.  So far it's worked.
 
>
>Thanks in advance
>todd
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Buddy Bradley)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Two Movie Posters Wanted...
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:20:04 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

I am interested in obtaining the one-sheets for the following
two films:

SIMPLE MEN
RESERVOIR DOGS

If anyone can acquire either or both of the posters, please
e-mail me.  Thanks.
--
                               Curt Tsui
                           curt@Virginia.EDU                                  
    "I've got a peculiar weakness for criminals and artists -- neither
                takes life as it is." -- Stanley Kubrick
Organization: Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 16:28:21 -0500 
From: Daniel Read <dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Michael Mann, John Woo, Clint Eastwood
	<1992Nov4.083202.7185@athena.mit.edu>

Timothy Worsley states:

     ... A BETTER TOMORROW does repay close study.  It is not an
     innovative story, but the technique -- well, I know you disagree so
I won't
     belabor the point...


Reiher disagrees, and so do I.  You suggest that "A Better Tomorrow" is
a great film, yet give no reasons other than your belief that the
technique is innovative.  Now I like John Woo's films a lot --
especially those made since THE KILLER -- but I can't see that even THE
KILLER or BULLET IN THE HEAD  deserve the kind of reverential treatment
that you give to them.  A BETTER TOMORROW is, in my opinion, greatly
inferior to these films.  Now I don't think that my opinion is any
better than yours, but I would suggest that if you are going to nominate
films like ABT (or Micheal Mann's films for that matter) for
canonization you had better come up with some reasons derived from your
"close study".

I do think that Woo's technique, especially in the post ABT films (even
ABT II) IS remarkably clever and I also think he is one of the best
action directors at work.  He has seen a lot of films and has learned
his lessons well.  Why isn't that good enough?  If you enjoy a piece of
work why should you feel obliged to nominate it for Citizen Kane status?
 

This has got nothing to do with the "false dichotomy" between high and
low art.   Such apparently "low" artists as Howard Hawks, Douglas Sirk
(both of whom are likely influences on John Woo), John Fuller and
Nicholas Ray have all produced films that are popular and "great" by
tonier standards.  Hong Kong directors, working under the same pressures
as their earlier Hollywood brethren, may well produce films of
equivalent quality.  Indeed, John Woo and Tsui Hark (a likelier
candidate, by my books) may already be doing so and Timothy Worseley may
well be a prophet crying in the wilderness (the Cahiers of the 90s). 
However, I have my doubts.

daniel  
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies