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From: cwebb@cs1.uct.ac.za (CF WEBB)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: re:Springboks in france
Keywords: punch-up
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:14:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs1.cwebb.19.719151256
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town

In article <dlategan.1.719146944@cs1.uct.ac.za> dlategan@cs1.uct.ac.za (D LATEGAN) writes:
>  The punch up in the recent Springbok match was by far the most
>  intense fight I have ever witnessed in a rugby match.All 30
>  players involved with reserves just about to join in.It lasted 
>  about 2 straight minutes solid.The Springboks came off far better in
>  this brawl than did the French.One commentater said that it was the 
>  worst fight he'd ever seen on a rugby field....

Saw it on the news last night. Pretty explosive stuff, I've never seen so 
many punches thrown in just two minutes! Only problem is not very many 
punches landed where they were intended, maybe the guys need some experience 
in that field too! I'd love to have seen old Naas in amounst that lot, could 
be fun! 

I must admit it was fun to watch, but all jests aside, this kind of 
behaviour isn't very professional and I'm glad they made up for it with some 
great play in the rest of the game. Aside from the boxing performance, this 
was definitely the best display by the Boks so far with the five tries to 
nill win reinstating a lot of lost confidence. I've got a nagging suspicion 
though that it is just a little too good to be true and we might be in for a 
bit of a surprise on Saturday, like in the Wallabies game maybe. Whatever 
the case, I think   we're in for a real contest on Saturday.
I can't wait...
Cheers.


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From: cep@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: This season's internationals
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:56:51 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <890091b.5.718989216@ace.acadiau.ca> 890091b@ace.acadiau.ca (HEIDI JILL BURKHOLDER) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.132109.8083@bradford.ac.uk> S.Burke@bradford.ac.uk (S BURKE) writes:
>From: S.Burke@bradford.ac.uk (S BURKE)
>Subject: Re: This season's internationals
>
>>England v Canada	17 October
>
>	Please post the results of this game! While rugby is growing in 
>popularity by leaps and bounds in Canada, at least at the club level, we 
>still do not hear much about it.
>	Thanks so much!

I'll do better than that - I'll don my journalist's cap and give a match report
as I will be sitting in the stadium during the 80 minutes! I was determined to
see the game partly because I've never been to Wembley and don't really follow
football as much as rugby, but mainly because I have been impressed with Canada
rugby both before (Ontario club sides) and during (running the ABs close) the
1991 World Cup and although the side has unfortunately been hit by injury and
retirement it should be a great game.

Charlie
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Subject: Re: Richard Loe - About Time !
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:31:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.004213.5302@massey.ac.nz>, R.D.Lynn@massey.ac.nz (R.D. Lynn) writes:
> As for Halford, no chance! He plays for Canterbury! :-)

Only because he couldn't get into the Hawkes Bay side :-).

Alan
From: naicg@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: RFL news and results, 8th October
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:04:03 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

The finalists in the County Cups are now decided:

Lancashire Cup
St.Helens 18 (Tries: A.Hunte(2),G.Connolly; Goals: B.Dwyer(3))
Salford 5 (Goals: C.Brown(2); Drop-Goal: C.Brown)

Salford led 5-2 at half time. Allan Hunte reached 11 tries for the season. 
The final will be staged at Knowsley Road, St.Helens on 18th October. (A 
non-neutral venue because Wigan and Saints met in the final 8 years ago, 
with only the participants grounds big enough to hold the 26,000 attendance. 
That was at Wigan, so its Saints turn this time).

Yorkshire Cup
Featherstone R. 8 Wakefield T. 22
Featherstone led 8-6 at the interval, but had lost Brendan Tuuta (sent off) 
four minutes from half time. Wakefield will meet Sheffield at Elland Road, 
Leeds on 17th or 18th October.

Chief Executive:
Maurice Lindsay will replace David Oxley as Chief Executive of the RFL. 
He will take up the post on 1st November, after severing all links with 
Wigan.

Transfer News:
Wigan look set to lose another of their 1992 Lions, with David Myers set 
to return to his first club Widnes, in a swap deal for Paul Atcheson.

Coming Up:
On Friday, the Australians play the first of their World Cup warm up games 
at Huddersfield. There is also a first division game between Warrington and 
Bradford. The rest of the league programme takes place on Sunday, with 
several important games,namely Castleford v Widnes,Halifax v Sheffield, 
St.Helens v Hull and Wigan v Leeds.

The GB squad for the World Cup Final is announced on Tuesday, and the 
Australians play their second game at Sheffield on Wednesday.

Ian
From: CS19242428D@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (Tim BY C)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Richard Loe - About Time !
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:49:41 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
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In <BvtzMC.38u@alsvid.une.edu.au> preidy@alsvid.une.edu.au writes:

> G'Day Rugby Followers,
> 
> I was pleased to see on last nights news the suspension of Richard Loe for 9
> months. It seemed when the All Blacks were in Australia that they did not have
> a system to reprimand players, following Sam Scott-Young's and Paul Carozza's
> injuries.  However justice prevailed, only perhaps, because this time his
> indiscretion was against a fellow Kiwi. Whether this is the case doesn't
> matter as finally there is warning to players who play this style of rugby,
> that it will not be condoned.
> 
> Yours in Rugby,
> 
> Paul Reidy.
> 
> -- 
> Paul Reidy  Internet:  preidy@loki.une.edu.au   Phone:  +61 66 ????????
>     University of New England, Northern Rivers (Lismore) NSW Australia

Yes, I totally agree with the punishment handed out to that "gentleman" Mr Loe.
It's just a pity that this action had not been taken out earlier.  Was Richard
Loe such a great player that despite all of his thuggish acts, that the
All-Black's considered him irreplacable, and hence ignored his blatantly 
intentional tactics? 

And who shall fill his shoes in the All-Black line up?

Adios,

tim.



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From: cep@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: This season's internationals
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:54:22 GMT
Reply-To: cep@cs.nott.ac.uk ()
Organization: Nottingham University

Can anybody give me the missing dates for the following internationals?

England v Canada	17 October
France v South Africa	17 October
			24 October
England v South Africa	14 November
Ireland v Australia	?
Wales v Australia	?

I assume that Scotland aren't having any this season as I've heard that the
redevelopment of Murrayfield won't be finished until the end of December and
of course the 1993 part of the season sees the 5 Nations with England going
for an unprecedented Grand Slam hat-trick (no jingoism here! :-)

Also I'm guessing that the Southern hemisphere teams that aren't touring have
their feet up for a well-earned break, but if there are any matches I don't
know about I would be grateful for details...

Charlie
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
From: allanc@cs.su.oz.au (Restless Wanderer)
Subject: Re: Richard Loe
Reply-To: allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:06:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.094954.11327@waikato.ac.nz> hamish@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>> avoidable,perhaps even giving the doubt(in the publics eye) that Loe was
>> trying to prevent Carozza grounding the ball.Murray was not so convinced.
>>
>
>Oh crap! Loe didn't hurt poor little corozza on purpose. Even the video tapes
>showed he was going for the ball (Which wasn't grounded eithe BTW). Haven't


It's obvious that you,Hamish ,are not one eyed.Just fucking blind.
Carozza ground the ball BEFORE he rolled onto his back,Loe came in 4 secs
after Carozza hit the ground.Didn't hurt him ? HAd your face re-arranged
lately without painkillers.?
Your'e right it probably didn't hurt him because we breed them tough BUT fair.
On purpose,on this there is no doubt.

Your'e just having a baiting session here,because we warned your official
bodies that Loe was dangerous via the Carozza and SS Young incidents.You
decided not to heed the warning and now your body is the laughing stock
of rugby.

>
>Just to go on the record, I do think this one was below the belt, and the
>sentence was a just one. I'd be surprised to see him playing in 94 either, if
>he has to stop playing completely till then.

You expect me to believe that you suddenly developed a conscience.?
Who do you work for ,Kodak ?
Get a life.

>> Yeah,I know just another whinging one eyed Aussie .
>
>Yep.

Gathered,that would be the catch cry.


>==============================================================================
>  Q. If Nuclear Tests are so safe, why don't the French do them under Paris?

Unfortunately,this is the only relevant thing you say ,whenever you post.


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From: anorris@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Andrew Norris)
Subject: Re: Richard Loe
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:16:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.043251.7251@cs.su.oz.au> allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.152013.11336@waikato.ac.nz> rgty_mrw@waikato.ac.nz (Mark Willcock) writes:

>It just would NEVER happen in Aus,and if it did I'd be the first to call
>for a life ban .Our judiciary would ensure that player never represented
>his country again.
>
Ah, Australia, the home of fair play, where opposing teams inquire
after the health of opponents after each ruck and maul. Perhaps
you would like a stiffer penalty, like deportation to Aussi League??
Or the head of his first begotten? Is not finishing Loe's career enough?
>
Besides, It is a NZRFU matter, not Australia's.
B
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>
		Andrew N.
From: preidy@alsvid.une.edu.au (Paul Reidy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Jorgensen
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:32:00 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

From article <01GPEO91BGBK000FQK@JHMAIL.HCF.JHU.EDU>, by tratnana@eureka-gold.wbme.jhu.edu (Tilak Ratnanather):
> 
> I note that Peter Jorgensen - the star of the 1990 Australian School
> boys Tour of UK and the heir to Campese's throne at Coogee Oval -
> the home of Randwick (IMHO a very beautiful ground with the surf in
> view) -- wasnt picked for the 1992 Wallabies. Does any one more
> knowledgeable care to comment?
> 
Jorgensen was injured in the grand final for Randwick, and was not up for
consideration to go on the tour. If he was fit I'm sure he would have gone.
Although you never know with selectors, why would you pick Paul Kahl, Anthony
Herbert and Richard Tombs? Look to the future I say! Matt Burke, Craig Wells
and Tim Wallace should have gone. It seems the old NSW vs QLD rivary means
you must make it as even as possible instead of picking the best players.

		Yours in Rugby,

		Paul Reidy.
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    University of New England, Northern Rivers (Lismore) NSW Australia
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
From: ramdwar@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Simone Lisa Hernandez-Ramdwar)
Subject: Canadian National Championship
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Distribution: universal
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 12:23:09 GMT


British Columbia 69  Ontario 13
Saturday, October 10th
Kamloops, BC

BC take their 24th National title and the first under the new one game
final format.I have not heard any match reports as yet, but ut is certaijly 
onme of the heaviest losses ever for Ontaro.

No word on whether TSN will air the final, but they have announced they
will show the Canada ENgland Test on Sunday, oCtober 25th. 

Jon Jenkins
Winnipeg Wasps RFC
From: naicg@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: GB squad for World Cup final
Date: 14 Oct 92 09:08:40 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

The 19 man squad for the World Cup final on Saturday week was announced 
yesterday:

Backs
Gary Connolly(St.Helens)
John Devereux(Widnes)
Shaun Edwards(Wigan)
Deryck Fox(Bradford N.)
Allan Hunte(St.Helens)
Joe Lydon(Wigan)
Martin Offiah(Wigan)
Garry Schofield(Leeds,Captain)
Graham Steadman(Castleford)
Allan Tait(Leeds)

Forwards
Denis Betts(Wigan)
Phil Clarke(Wigan)
Martin Dermott(Wigan)
Bernard Dwyer(St.Helens)
Richard Eyres(Widnes)
Ellery Hanley(Leeds)
Andy Platt(Wigan)
Kelvin Skerrett(Wigan)
Kevin Ward(St.Helens)

Ellery Hanley returns to the side, but not as captain. He will likely
start at loose forward, with Phil Clarke moving into the second row. The 
only certain positions, according to toda's reports, are Hunte and Offiah on 
the wings, and Platt and Ward as the prop forwards. The 17 man team is 
announced a week today.

Regal Trophy, Preliminary Round
Warrington 32 Blackpool 8

Warrington will be at home to Chorley or Sheffield in the first round. 

Tour match
Sheffield entertain the Australians tonight. Garry Jack has been named as 
captain of the home side. Australia have selected 14 of the side which 
won the third test in Brisbane in July.

Ian
From: bruce@siesoft.co.uk (Bruce Beadle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: This season's internationals
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:34:44 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

S.Burke@bradford.ac.uk (S BURKE) writes:
: In article <1992Oct13.085422.530@cs.nott.ac.uk> cep@cs.nott.ac.uk () writes:
: >Can anybody give me the missing dates for the following internationals?
: >
: >England v Canada	17 October
: >France v South Africa	17 October
: >			24 October
: >England v South Africa	14 November
: >Ireland v Australia	?
: 
: Can anybody tell me why the England v Canada game is being played at
: Wembley and not Twickers?

  As I understand it, the new stand at Twickenham is not ready and rather
  than stop the work and make the ground safe for crowds for the Canada
  game, they are working through to try to make sure everything is ready
  in time for the South Africa match. 

  Any snide comments about doing this deliberately so that Wembley can 
  stage an international that England have a chance of winning, gratefully
  accepted. (Sorry for contaminating this news group with obscure footie
  references).
  
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From: 890091b@ace.acadiau.ca (HEIDI JILL BURKHOLDER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: This season's internationals
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:33:11 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <1992Oct16.100545.25235@cs.nott.ac.uk> cep@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce) writes:
>From: cep@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce)
>Subject: This season's internationals
>Date: 16 Oct 92 10:05:45 GMT
>Many thanks to the people that replied to my previous posting.

	I too tried to reply to your posting of 14 Oct 92, but had some 
mailing difficulty. Thanks so much for your offer to give a match report of 
the Canada game. You're a doll! 
	Me, I'll be playing a game at that time! I'm with Acadia University'
s Women's R.F.C. in Wolfville, Nova Scotia. It's my first year with the 
sport, and my only regret is not taking it up sooner! We may not have 
varsity standing, but we're the only team at Acadia with an undefeated 
record - which is a hell of a lot better than our football team can say! 
Besides, football loses a lot of its "impact" (no pun intended) once you see 
rugby. A tackle hurts a little more without two tonnes of padding. Mind you, 
a helmet booting along at 20 mph wouldn't tickle much either!
	Thanks again!
		Heidi
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992 08:29:58 CET
From: <TVERRALL@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject:    South Africa Tour


Could anybody out there who has the results,sides and any other info
please post it. There has been very little info on the tour thus far.

Thanks in advance.

Tim. (A South African desparate for any news)
From: peterda@cs.uow.edu.au (Peter Donald Asquith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Wales XV 43 Italy 12
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:41:32 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

cjp@aber.ac.uk (C J Price) writes:

>Last night Wales triumphed over insurmountable odds.
>No, not the Italians, but Fred Howard, the scourge of the Welsh.

It's funny isn't it that some ref's just don't appeal.  I've
seen Clive Norling make some terrible decisions but
I still reckon he's the best.

>So what is going to happen against Australia. Easy. We will lose badly
>in the lineout, and starved of good possession, our backs won't get a
>sniff at a run. We've seen it all before.....

It will be interesting to see how the new rules are being played
in the Northern Hemisphere.  There seemed to be a lot of
kicking this year in Australia.

Peter Asquith
University of Wollongong
Dept of Computing science
Australia
From: pavenant@dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za (Paul Avenant)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Springboks in France
Keywords: Victory
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:50:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Pretoria

The Springboks have seemed to step up a gear. Last night second stringers 
beat a French team by 41 points to 12 (5 tries to 0). Many of the players 
have made serious claims on test spots.

About 5 minutes before half time a major punch-up took place involving all 
30 players plus some of the substitutes. Not a pretty sight. At least the 
French are aware now that the Boks are not "zee puzzycats" as stated in 
earlier newspaper reports.
From: a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager)
Subject: Comments on SA team (questions)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:06:27 GMT

Hi there

I'd like some comments on the SA team (as readers of this group might know
I'm the one always whining about not seeing any rugby here).

Firstly, why Reece-Edwards - current form?

Does the same go for Wright's selection above Du Preez (with which I have NO 
problem).

If I'm not mistaken, Styger and Rodgers are both looseheads (remember what
happened playing Frans Erasmus on tighthead against the World XV?).

Last - be happy with me for Strauss being included - AT BLOODY LAST!!!

Riaan [leaving for Lyon in 4 hours :-)] de Jager
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From: mrichardson@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: Re: Richard Loe
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:09:18 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Oct9.043251.7251@cs.su.oz.au>, allanc@cs.su.oz.au (Restless Wanderer) writes:
> In article <1992Oct9.152013.11336@waikato.ac.nz> rgty_mrw@waikato.ac.nz (Mark Willcock) writes:
>>> 
> <stuff deleted - basically, "this would never happen in Australia, 
>  God bless 'er" and, "My Dad's tougher than your Dad"; that kind of 
>  stuff ...> 
> 
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> 
In an earlier posting you had promised to bugger off and watch the 
league.  How come you're still clogging up the net with your childish 
tantrums? Go away mad, if you want; just go away.
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From: 890091b@ace.acadiau.ca (HEIDI JILL BURKHOLDER)
Subject: Re: This season's internationals
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:13:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.132109.8083@bradford.ac.uk> S.Burke@bradford.ac.uk (S BURKE) writes:
From: S.Burke@bradford.ac.uk (S BURKE)
Subject: Re: This season's internationals

>England v Canada	17 October

	Please post the results of this game! While rugby is growing in 
popularity by leaps and bounds in Canada, at least at the club level, we 
still do not hear much about it.
	Thanks so much!