HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "TuyetTrang Le" <LTRANG@BLDVM4.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject: [Tho+] U+o+'c Chi ...
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: LTRANG@BLDVM4.VNET.IBM.COM
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:12:03 GMT

U+o+'c Chi
----------

Ngu+o+i` ie^u o+i, Em co' nhie^`u mo+ u+o+'c
U+o+'c chi ... buo^?i sa'ng co' su+o+ng mu`
Da'ng Anh a^?n hie^.n, ma^.p mo+` trong su+o+ng
Mo^i Em u+o+'t nhu+ su+o+ng me^`m tinh khie^'t
Cho Anh nga^y nga^'t tre^n bo+` mo^i u+o+'t me^`m
Va` ... Ta tha? ho^`n ti`m ve^` di~ va~ng ...
Ha.nh phu'c ie^u thu+o+ng, o^i tha^.t no^`ng na`n
Va` ... ma~nh lie^.t, dao` da.t nhu+ con so'ng ...
Ro^i` ... a'nh bi`nh minh toa? sa'ng, su+o+ng tan
Ha.nh phu'c cu~ng tan theo su+o+ng mu` buo^?i sa'ng ...

U+o+'c chi ... buo^?i sa'ng co' mu+a ro+i
Mu+a ro+i thay le^. cho vo+i muo^.n phie^`n
Cho vo+i nhung nho+' a^u sa^`u trie^`n mie^n ...
Mu+a ray ru+'c vi` ti`nh co`n vu+o+ng va^'n
Thuo+? ban dda^`u ho` he.n du+o+'i mu+a ...
Em kho^ng la.nh, nhu+ng vi` Anh be^n ca.nh
Em dda~ than, Em la.nh vi` mu+a
Anh vo^.i va`ng o^m Em nhe. vao` lo`ng
Em sung su+o+'ng, o^i ti`nh ie^u tuye^.t qua' !
Nhu+ng ... tro+i` ta.nh mu+a ... Cho em bie^'t mong cho+` ...

U+o+'c chi ... Ti`nh ta ma~i tho+ nga^y
Cho Em nho~ng nheo~, cho Anh do^~ da`nh
Cho Em o^m a^'p gia^'c mo^.ng mong manh
Ddu+o+.c la`m a'ng ma^y trong vo`m tro+`i xanh
Khi Anh gia^.n, tro+i` se~ ke'o ma^y sang
Ta.o tha`nh mu+a cho lo`ng Anh tu+o+i ma't ...
Nga`y a^'y be^n nhau, o^i ti`nh dda(`m tha('m
Va` de^~ thu+o+ng nhu+ gio.t na('ng ban mai ...
Ti`nh ie^u da.o a^'y kho^ng buo^`n ba^ng khua^ng
O^i! U+o+'c chi ... ddu+o+.c ie^u la.i tu+` dda^`u ...

tt

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: hop@brahms.amd.com (Peter Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Che^'t answer
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:06:36 GMT
Organization: amd

To: NGUYENA@imo-uvax.dca.mil
Orig-To: NGUYENA@imo-uvax.dca.mil
Orig-To: "Nguyen, Anthony" <NGUYENA@imo-uvax.dca.mil>
Subject: Re: [MISC] Che^'t ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese

In soc.culture.vietnamese you write:


>      D E F E N S E   I N F O R M A T I O N   S Y S T E M S   A G E N C Y

>                                        Date:     15-Apr-1992 12:19pm EST
>                                        From:     Anthony Nguyen
>                                                  NGUYENA
>                                        Dept:     DNSO/DIPC
>                                        Tel No:   

>TO:  SCV@MEDIA.MIT.EDU                    ( REMOTE )


>Subject: RE: [MISC] Che^'t ...


>*
>* .... xin ddu+o+.c ma.n phe'p bo^? xung ve^' chu+~ tu+? : 
>*
>*  - Bao tu+? : a(n ba'nh bao ma` che^'t.
>*  - Ba^t dda('c ky` tu+? : tu+. nhie^n ma` che^'t.
>*  - Bi.nh tu+? : bi. bi.nh ma` che^'t.
>*  - DDie^.n tu+? : bi. giu+.t die^.n ma` che^'t.
>*  - La~ng tu+? : bi. khu`ng ma` che^'t.
>*  - La~o tu+? : lo'n tuo^i? ma` che^'t.
>*  - Ma~ tu+? : co+~i ngu+.a ma` che^'t.
>*  - Qua^n tu+? : ddi li'nh ma` che^'t.
>*  - Sinh tu+? : nu+~a so^'ng nu+~a che^'t .
>*  - Su+ tu+? : ddi tu ma` che^'t (sorry, no offended).
>*  - Tie^~u tu+?: nho? tuo^i? ma` che^'t.
>*  - To^n tu+? : bi. ma'i to^n che'm che^t'.


>	- Co^ng tu+?: che^'t lu'c ddang la`m vie^.c co^ng
>	- Hoa`ng tu+?: Che^'t mo^.t ca'ch dda`ng hoa`ng 
>			(kho^ng pha?i che^'t la?ng xe.t)
>	- Qui' tu+?: che^'t cao qui'
>	- Nghi~a tu+?: ca'i che^'t co' y' nghi~a
>	- Kho^?ng tu+?: ca'i che^'t vi~ dda.i
>	- Trang tu+?: che^'t mo^.t ca'ch li.ch thie^.p
>	- Ngo^'c tu+?: bi. brain turmoil ma` che^'t


>*  ????Su+o?'ng qu'a,vui qu'a, phe^ qu'a ma` che^'t go.i la` gi` tu+?     ?????
>*  Would you guys (netters) try it out? I'll post the answer next time.
> 
>	- Ta(.c tu+?: che^'t lu'c ddang su+o+'ng...    co' ddu'ng kho^ng?	


>* Have fun ,
>* Tu'y Si Nha^n.

>	Tu'y Si Nha^n la` ngu+o+`i ghie^`n ma tu'y, xi` ke co' pha?i kho^ng?


>  

Hi Anthony,

Heh, you're funny. 
Su+o?'ng qu'a,vui qu'a, phe^ qu'a ma` che^'t go.i la` KHOA'I CHI' TU+? . 
Tu'y Si Nha^n kho^ng pha?i la` ngu+o+`i ghie^`n ma tu'y hay xi` ke ddau^.
I'll give you a hint that something related to Tu'y Si Vu+o+ng (ha ha ha !!).
Have a great day,
Tu'y Si Nha^n.
From: trang@pine.circa.ufl.edu (Stewart,T.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [Misc] -Da`n tranh
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:58:51 GMT
Reply-To: trang@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4


Hi,

Thanks to all who responsed to my questions about the -da`n tranh.
The price range is from $200.00 to $1,000.00 .  I want to buy one 
learn how to play it, but working for the state of Florida I can't
afford that luxury right now.  Maybe few more years, when Florida
state gives their employees some pay raise.

Again thank you all,

Minh-Trang Le
University of Florida
From: vuon@midway.uchicago.edu (PTV (The 7th of 8))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [MISC] AIDS in the Vietnamese community
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:58:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr10.195859.16970
Reply-To: vuon@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: N/A
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu


	Hello netters,
	I have just had a discussion on AIDS in different communities in the
US with some friends.  I wonder about similar issues in the Vietnamese
community.  How does the community react to this disease and what have been
done in educating others?  How does this affect our family value system?  Are
there as high number of HIV-positive cases in our community as in others?  How
informed are the Vietnamese teenagers on the concerns, as well as the
knowledge of safe sex?
	Other relating questions or views or answers are also welcome.  Please
post your message on the group or e-mail me.  Thanks.
	Phuoc

Ps.  My inquiring mind wants to know.
From: malx0142@steer.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 0142)
Subject: Re: [MISC] Tra(m ho.
Organization: San Diego State University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 07:25:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr09.172550.18732@microsoft.com> chauv@microsoft.com (Chau Vu) writes:
>
>
>I'd like to add more Vietnamese Lastnames I know (think) exist.
>BTW, I can't think of any real example for those I added.
>
>Co^ng		i.e. Co^ng Ta<`ng ....

how about this name
	Co^ng Ta<`ng To^n Nu+~ Tra` Mi 
I think ngu+o+`i Hue^' have this name.

Mu+o+`i
(Nu. Cu+o+`i La` Ta^'t Ca?)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: doky@uda.dgcd.doc.ca (Hien Doky)
Subject: Re: question on Tra(m Ho.
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: doky@uda.dgcd.doc.ca
Organization: N/A
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:21:02 GMT


	QPhu+o+ng@bnr.ca co' ho?i trong la' tho+ va\i ho^m tru+o+'c:

>Nha^n -da^y to^i co' 1 tha('c ma('c (lo+'n), mong -du+o+.c chi? gia'o cho:
>
>Ta.i sao no'i Vie^.t Nam la` mo^.t nu+o+'c -do^.c la^.p, co' nguo^`n
>go^'c kha'c vo+'i Ta`u ma` nha^n va^.t Huye^`n Su+?, to^? tie^n
>cu?a chu'ng ta : La.c Long Qua^n la.i co' te^n Ha'n Vie^.t ? Ta.i
>sao trong su+? no'i tho+`i ca'c vua Hu`ng co' "La.c Ha^`u" va` 
>"La.c Tu+o+'ng", chu+~ "Ha^`u" va` "Tu+o+'ng" kho^ng pha?i la` chu+'c
>sa('c cu?a quan la.i Ta`u hay sao ?
>
>Mong ca'c ba^.c cao minh chi? gia'o du`m, vi` to^i ra^'t tha('c ma('c
>(va` lo nu+~a).
>QP

	QPhu+o+ng,

	To^i kho^ng bie^'t nhie^\u ve^\ te^n ne^n chi.u thua ca'i ca^u ho?i
ddo' cu?a QPhu+o+ng . Co' ddie^\u to^i vo+'i mo^.t va\i ngu+o+\i ba.n, trong
lu'c ho\a nha.c da^n ca Vie^.t Nam co' nha^.n tha^'y ddie^\u na\y co' the^?
giu'p QPhu+o+ng bo+'t "lo" ve^\ va^'n dde^\ va(n ho'a Vie^.t Nam.

	Khi ho\a nha.c da^n ca tu.i na\y tha^'y ra('ng nha.c Vie^.t Nam cu~ng
chi? xa\i 5 note nhu+ nha.c Trung Hoa . Co' ddie^\u la\ ca'i arrangement cu?a
nhu+~ng note nha.c na\y hoa\n toa\n tra'i ngu+o+.c vo+'i nha.c Ta\u (ie. reverse
chronological order). Ne^'u dda'nh xuo^i thi\ nghe gio^'ng nha.c Ta\u, nhu+ng
dda'nh ngu+o+.c la.i thi\ nghe ra^'t Vie^.t Nam !! Ne^'u ca^u lead na\o ma\
tu.i na\y che^' ra nghe gio^'ng nha.c Trung Hoa, thi\ chi? ca^\n dda?o ngu+o+.c
la.i la\ OK he^'t .

	Ca'i hypothesis cu?a tu.i na\y la\ o^ng ba\ chu'ng ta la^'y ca'i hay 
cu?a civilization Ta\u dde^? du\ng nhu+ng la.i dda?o ngu+o+.c ca'i vi. tri'
cu?a ca'c note ddi dde^? ta.o ne^n ca'i ne't dda(.c bie^.t cu?a da^n to^.c 
ta (hay ngu+o+\i Ta\u mu+o+.n nha.c cu?a chu'ng ta ro^\i dda?o ngu+o+.c la.i
cu~ng  co' ??)

	Du\ sao ddi nu+?a, ddie^\u na\y cho tha^'y da^n to^.c Vie^.t Nam co'
ti'nh adapt cao nhu+ng kho^ng que^n nguo^\n go^'c do ddo' dda~ cho.n lo.c
nhu+~ng ca'i tinh tu'y cu?a ngu+o+\i kha'c va\ "bie^'n che^'" la.i tha\nh
cu?a rie^ng mi\nh . Hy vo.ng the^' he^. chu'ng ta cu~ng la\m ddu+o+.c nhu+
va^.y khi chu'ng ta tro+? ve^\ xa^y du+.ng mo^.t Vie^.t Nam thu+.c su+. tu+.
do .

	DDa^y hoa\n toa\n la\ mo^.t ca'i hypothesis (tu+\ crude observations),
cho co' the^? sai ma\ cu~ng co' the^? ddu'ng...(Does anyone out there know?)

	Tha^n,

	Hie^?n
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Ran Atkinson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [NEWS] sources of information
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:51:55 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.vietnamese
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC


  The magazine THE FAR EAST ECONOMIC REVIEW is a good source of
information on what is going in in E/SE Asia even beyond just
economics.  

  It is expensive in the US but cheap and widely read on the other
side of the Pacific.  Most good university libraries in North America
have a subscription.  I think that many of the folks here will find it
interesting reading.  I used to read it religously when I was living
on the other side of the Pacific and a former dorm-mate of mine from
those days briefly wrote some freelance articles for them though he no
longer does that.

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
From: vibama@cs.hw.ac.uk (SCOTT DOAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [MISC] Personal notes for Chris Chu
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:11:19 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh, Scotland

Dear Chris,

It is Scott. Ca'm o+n Chris for the valuable information
both in private and in public, but surely I know about Knock
more than you do, hi` hi` hi`......

DDK bie^'t ba?o tro.ng, huynh ddu+`ng lo xa. Ne` !!!! Nha('c
nho? huynh ti' nghe, DDK con` tre? cha'n lo gi` ma` kie^'m vo+.
kho^ng ra ???? DDK chi? mo+'i bie^?u die^~n so+ so+ va`i ngo'n
tre^n SCV cha('c huynh cu~ng tha^'y it wasn't too bad. DDK kho^ng
muo^'n show up more on the net as DDK muo^'n da^'u nghe^` ddo'.
Men doesn't live to eat and have sex ..... Hi` hi` hi` I am sure
you know more than I do about this. I don't want to show up on SCV
only for tan' do'c va` ta'n ga'i. I can do something else, otherwise
I would be silent.

Thanks again for your care !!!!
Good luck anh Chris.
Let's me know what's going on !!!!!!!
Keep SCV up-to-date to me, I might be out-of-date since I don't read 
SCV every day, anh Chris......


Yours,



DDK
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: knguyen@cis.ohio-state.edu (khoa nho nguyen)
Subject: please ignore
Originator: knguyen@cherry.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:43:39 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: TIEN@NMDHST.CC.NIH.GOV
Subject: [HELP] Looking for program to print the Vietnamese accents on VMS
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: TIEN@NMDHST.CC.NIH.GOV
Organization: N/A
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:06:04 GMT

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a program that interprets the Vietnamese accent
convention (i.e., to^i ddi chooi) and print out in regular Vietnamese. 
I'm on a VMS system, so if you have any program that can be used on VMS
and print out Vietnamese text, please send me a copy.  

I understand that there is such programs running on UNIX, I hope there
is one that run on VMS too.  Thank you very much.

Tie^'n
tien@nmdhst.cc.nih.gov
From: dang@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Thanh Ngan Dang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [song] for Smach (Main Dans La Main)
Date: 11 Apr 92 21:31:07 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal


         
     Hi Smach 

  Ba`i Main dans la main ne`, nhu*ng Bum kho^ng co' lo*`i vie^.t, Smach
ra'ng nghe trong tape ro^`i che'p ra ddi nhe. BTW, da.o na`y kho^ng tha^'y
smach tre^n IRC buo^`n 5 phu't ddo'

 
Main dans la main
 
Je t'aime, je t'aimerai toujours
Mon presque premier amour
Ma tendresse, mon bonheur ma douleur
Je t'enferme au fond de mon coeur
 
Chorus :
    Nous serons tous deux
    comme des amoureux
    Nous serons si bien
    Main dans la main
 
Quand, oui et comment le dire
Ce grand amour qui me dechire
Je t'aime et je t'aimerai toujours
De l'aube a la fin des jours


Enjoy.
Bum
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Vu Ngo <VU@GODZILLA.SCH.Symbolics.COM>
Subject: Re: [MISC]
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: VU@GODZILLA.SCH.Symbolics.COM
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:53:23 GMT

    Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:38 EDT
    From: jnle@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (C.N.M.T.)

	Love now - live later ... that's if you still have time ... :-)

    ----
    C.N.M.T.

For those who do, "ie^u cuo^`ng so^'ng vo^.i" that is, don't forget to 
practice Safe Socks :-))


-- Vu~
Gosh! I am just plain weird today!
From: nguyend@netcom.com (Quang Dinh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Tra(m Ho.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 15:05:57 PDT
Message-Id: <9204092205.AA29068@netcom.netcom.com>
Reply-To: nguyend@netcom.com
Distribution: world

> >>
> >>Trang	-  Trang Anh To^
> >            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am curious about the gender of the name above.  It gives no hint of either
> > a male or female name.  First name To^ does not sound femininely.  However,
> > Ms. Anh To^ does.  So my guess is it is a female name.  Am I correct?
> > 
> > Is there any famous historical person with the last name Trang?  And where
> > does that last name originally come from?  Any body knows?  Also, I notice
> > that many families use both the parent last names to name for their children.
 Hi Danh!

 He is TRANG SI~ TA^'N, former Chief of Police force before 1975.

nguyend.

> > For example, Pha.m Le^, Tra^`n -Doa`n, etc...  Should these be counted as
> > new Vietnamese last names?
> > 
> > Danh Tran
> > 
> 

From: tungn@hplsla.hp.com (Tung Nguyen)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:58:58 GMT
Subject: Re: [MISC] Tra(m ho.
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
From: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
Subject: NEWS: VN signs shipping agreement with Singapore
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:34:29 GMT


VIETNAM SIGNS SHIPPING AGREEMENT WITH SINGAPORE

    SINGAPORE, April 16, Reuter - Vietnam signed a shipping agreement on
Thursday with Singapore, which plans to set up an embassy in Hanoi soon,
government officials said.
    "It signifies the desire of both our countries to foster closer economic
co-operation," Singapore's senior minister of state for trade and industry Lim
Boon Heng said after signing the pact.
    Le Kha, Vietnam's vice minister for transport, told Lim the pact marked "big
progress" in the improvement of ties, a process initiated when Vietnamese Prime
Minister Vo Van Kiet visited last October.
    Kha told reporters direct sea-borne trade between the two countries could
double in a year under the pact, which provides most-favoured-nation status for
the vessels of both countries.
    Vietnamese officials said Singapore has emerged as Hanoi's largest trading
partner. Trade reached Singapore $1.5 billion (US $909 million) in 1991 from
S$1.3 billion ($788 million) in 1990, according to Singapore figures.
    A foreign ministry spokesman said Singapore planned to open an embassy in
Hanoi soon, reciprocating Vietnam's establishment of an embassy here early this
year.
    "The prospects of increasing bilateral trade are great," said Nguyen Manh
Hung, Vietnamese charge d'affaires.
    "Singapore could buy our agricultural products and we can buy various
manufactured goods," Hung said. Singapore would also serve as a transshipment
point for Vietnam's exports.
    Thursday's shipping agreement, Hanoi's fifth such accord, would allow each
country's shipping firms to engage in the other's inland trucking activities,
the statement said.
    Vietnam has similar shipping agreements with France, Thailand, Malaysia and
China.
    Kha said the agreement would accelerate contacts, which have burgeoned since
Singapore lifted a 13-year ban on investment in Vietnam last November afo9d
Vietnam's accession to a United Nations peace accord for Cambodia.
    Former Singapore prime minister Lee Kuan Yew is due to visit Hanoi next week
to advise Vietnam's planners on economic development. Lee masterminded
Singapore's post-war rise from sleepy tropical port to world financial and
trading centre.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: phan@cs.bu.edu (Hai Phan)
Subject: Re: Vietnam National Day
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: phan@cs.bu.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:07:24 GMT

> 	I have serious misgivings regarding "patriotic" people who can't
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     think about the people and the land but just concentrate on the
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>     government.  It seems to me they are either too power-hungry or too
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     near-sighted.  They don't seem to see that it will take us another
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
	To me, they a playing the Vietnamese version of American fovorite
sport, Vie^.t Co.ng bashing. What should we do with those "athletes"?
IGNORE THEM. 

	I ADMIRE Vie^.t Co.ng fighters but DESPISE Vie^.t Co.ng bashers.

						Have a nice day,
						Ha?i Phan	
							

>     30 years to catch up with other countries.  By that time, the Communist
>     government will be long gone without a bullet being fired.  Instead
>     they want to wait and make the country poorer until the Communist
>     government is replaced.  But by that time, we will be so far behind
>     that it will take us another 50 years to catch up if we can catch up
>     at all since we will be the poorest country in the world by then.
> 
> 	It's not that I'm advocating helping VN whole-heartedly right now
>     since I myself think that it's impossible to get anything done
>     under the corrupted Communist system which is plagued with the
>     most stupid and illiterate officials imaginable.  If you have better
>     things to do it is not wise to go back and fight with the government
>     officials to teach them basic cerebration.  However, thing
>     will change gradually and we should leave the option of helping
>     ourselves open until we can do it.   Thinking too much about our
>     hatred for the government while forgetting our love for the people
>     and the land won't do us a lot of good in the long run.
> 
>     Anyway, I talked too much already.  Ciao.
> 
> - calvin
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Calvin H. Vu			   | "We are each of us angels with only one
> Silicon Graphics Computer Systems  | wing.  And we can only fly embracing
> calvin@sgi.com   (415) 962-3679	   | each other."
> 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: doky@uda.dgcd.doc.ca (Hien Doky)
Subject: private message for vuong@saigon.com
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: doky@uda.dgcd.doc.ca
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:04:29 GMT

	Vuong,

	I am trying to send these files to a few friends whose companies 
sometimes cloded their connections. I don't know how much more room and time
my message take to go from one node to another (I'am not a computer person)
but I can't seem to send otherwise. Please explain to me (in terms of bits
and bytes) how much space I am hogging on your Email system, and how much
damage I am doing to your system.

	You wrote "most are uninterested". I think you are generalizing on a
topic you know relatively little about (sorry, but I can't find other words
than these to describe the situation), since all feedback goes to me on how
I am doing. So far, I got only yours and one more complaint about the files
I sent.

	Again, I'd like to apologize for my files. If you are familiar with
the UNIX environment maybe you can "ask" it to delete the MIDI files automatic-
ally.

	Regards,

	Hie^?n

	PS. Can I send a file to a closed node?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tranq@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (Quang Tran)
Subject: DALENA's Fans
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tranq@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
Organization: N/A
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:46:45 GMT

	Hello SCV-netters,

Does anyone on the net know anything about Dalena's personal history ?  
Like where is she from, who did she learn to speak and to sing in Vietnamese
with, and how did she get involve with our music ?

By the way, try Dalena's CD from Hai Au Studio:

	Oh !! My Sweet Love	HaiAu 25
	Just For YOU		HaiAu 28
	Love Songs 2		HaiAu 27

She sang with so much feelings and with her true expression into the songs.  
Our VNese singer can not express that well, not even half of what she has done
with our own music (very small number can, otherwise, too trashy, cheapy acts).

I would be appreciate any information about her.   Please, post on the net or
email to my address.
	Email:	tranq@uc.edu

Thanx !!!!

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: giao@informix.com (Giao Tien Vu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Poet Nguyen Chi Thien Honored By Amnesty
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:38:10 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Apr13.075523.5008@news.media.mit.edu> vinsight@netcom.com writes:
>
>NGUYEN CHI THIEN
>The Poet of Freedom
>(Vietnam Insight January 1992)
>[...]
>
>The 49- year-old poet was first detained in 1958 for his voice against
>the communist system.

Is the age true?  Because it means that he was first arrested at the
age of 15.

Quite remarkable, because I know very few 15-year-old kids being able to
think for themselves.

Giao

PS: Sorry for my faulty knowledge about NCT.