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From: schuncke@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Schuncke)
Subject: OmniKey Ultra
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:24:07 GMT

I just received my Ultra.  Very very nice.  But...

One little annoyance.  (Asides from the lack of a correct keymap)...

The accent grave (`) key repeats!  Repeats incessantly until another key is
pressed.  Only that key; the tilde (shift+`) doesn't.  Funky, eh?

Configuration:  Amiga 1000, WB 1.3, homebrewed cable adaptor (yes, the
adaptor is OK, if it were at all bad it would be totally bad and I wouldn't
be typing this now), and the following revision of OmniKey ROM:

             omnikey rev 7.03 11/02/90

Well, there you go.  Since I was mailed the Greg Cunningham keymap (Many
thanks to Steve Winokur of the Cellar BBS for mailing it to me!), and that
includes the assembler source for the keymap, I can hack on that until I find
what I like (perhaps by making the accent grave a non-repeating key?).

Also, another curiousity:  the Amiga keycap set I received included a second
accent grave/tilde key, sized and shaped to fit where the Caps Lock (or left
Ctrl key in MS-DOS mode) key is.  This makes no sense to me.  Everything
checks out fine against the key layout diagrams.

Other interesting things of note:  The reset key is gone from the back of
the machine, but CTRL-AMIGA-AMIGA works fine.  The OmniKey/ULTRA logo on
the top-left corner of the keyboard is actually a trap door covering the
configuration DIP switches and an orange push-switch that seems to do nothing.
(The manual calls this an "Option Select button," but describes its use only
with other models, not the Ultra.)  The legend on the Amiga keys look goofy,
but at least they're recognizable.

Enuff review.  I woulda posted this as a formal submission to comp.sys.amiga.
reviews, but this is very spur-of-the moment; I've been using this keyboard
for about 2 hours now.

				>JS<

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From: DennyA@cup.portal.com (Denny Lee Atkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Re: A4000/Alice
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 20:24:56 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct5.015138.18550@news.iastate.edu>
  <1992Oct7.024907.17662@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>
  <1992Oct7.154649.23231@zip.eecs.umich.edu> <35810@cbmvax.commodore.com>

Dave,

Hi. Some folks have been contacting me saying they've had problems
determining from the manual what kind of SIMMs they need to purchase
to expand the A4000. I'd like to put another 4MB SIMM in myself, so
I'm curious too. But mainly I'd like to have an answer for folks...

Can I get some specifics, maybe even part numbers, but at least a
good, exact description of what kind of SIMMs you need? All I know is
4MB, 32-bit SIMMs. They're 72-pins, right?

Any kind of specific instructions you could give me would be GREATLY
appreciated. (Also, I've heard "PS/2" and "Mac II" SIMMs. Any idea
exactly which models of those machines?)

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From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: How many Amigas???
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:34:05 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I believe they annouced the 4,000,000 mark at WOC in CA, no?

-Joel
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: A3000's anyone?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:22:31 GMT

In article <Bw655v.94q@cck.coventry.ac.uk> csg019@cck.coventry.ac.uk (-~=Zaphod=~-) writes:
>Is anyone out in netland selling an A3000?
>
>In the UK there about 2000 pounds (3,500 UDS)!
>
>Help please, or i'll have to buy a 486!

I thought Commodore UK was going to slash their prices on
the A3000 range, they'll have to when the A4000 is in common
sale. Perhaps you should wait for a low end AGA machine ?

Shouldn't be any problems finding a second hand A3000, though ...

>Steve.

*JORN* (email : jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no)
From: gonzalez@bbn.com (Jim Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Varying GVP Drive Capacities
Date: 8 Oct 1992 15:34:11 GMT
Reply-To: gonzalez@bbn.com (Jim Gonzalez)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

I was thumbing through the latest Amiga World, checking the latest
prices for the GVP controller/drive for the A500.  I was hoping to
buy a 52Meg within the next month or so, but no one seems to have
them anymore.  The ads now list 40, 80, 120 and 240.  I recall GVP
going from 40, etc to 52, etc. a while ago.  Have they changed drives
again?  Are these the lower-power (and slightly slower) drives I've
been reading about?  One thing that leads me to think that is the
unfamiliar model numbers in the Computability table of bare Quantum 
drives.

				-Jim.
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:02:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw573o.7xM
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <1bfno7INNrmh@uwm.edu> bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:
>In article <Bw31A0.y9@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>>>THERE ISNT A SINGLE GRAPHICS MODE THAT THE A3000 CAN DO THAT THE A4000 CAN'T.
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>   ****YOU ARE WRONG****!!!!!
>>   ****YOU ARE WRONG****!!!!!
>>   ****YOU ARE WRONG****!!!!!
>
>You seem happy.  It's a shame that you're technically incorrect.
>
>>   The A3000 can deinterlace NTSC overscan, all the way to 724x480.  The
>>DblNTSC mode -- which is used as a substitute for the deinterlaced NTSC mode
>>(and which is the mode that you get when you "promote" an NTSC mode) can 
>>only handle 676x480.  The DblPAL mode is also constrained to 676 pixels in
>>the horizontal resolution.
>
>>   From the A3000 to the A4000, the non-interlaced resolution **WENT DOWN**
>>from 724x480 to 676x480.  You just cannot handle this point. 
>
>Except there's a difference:  The deinterlaced modes on the 3000
>weren't actual screen modes.  You had to flip a switch, didn't you?
>You either had the Amber on or off, no real selection of resolution.

   I've never had to flip the display enhancer switch on the A3000.
It came switched on out-of-the-box, and I've always left it that 
way.  (Aside from a little experimentation to see what the display
would look like with it switched off)

   The point is that you can get 724x480 non-interlaced from an
A3000, and you cannot get it from an A4000.  

>So technically, they DID add resolutions.  DblPAL/NTSC non-interlaced
>and interlaced.

   They added the DblNTSC and DblPAL modes to the OS.  Technically,
these modes are available in the hardware on any Amiga with the ECS
Denise, though with the same color restrictions as Productivity.

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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: C/A is not CBM. Re: The Real A4000 Argument.
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:39:50 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Oct15.002028.1@cc.helsinki.fi> ronkko@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>
>But are all of those 'branches' on the same line? Is the cost of a certain 
>product the same for e.g. CBM-Sweden and CBM-USA? 

No, this is up to the skill (and market size) of each country General
Manager to negotiate the "Transfer Price" with the source in USA.

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From: 8922407b@LUX.LEVELS.UNISA.EDU.AU (Michael Portmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: PPS 040 & GVP HD Problems
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:32:19 GMT

A friend of mine with a 2000 _HAD_ the following setup:

  - 2000 with 1 meg chip.
  - PPS 040 in the CPU slot, 2 Meg ram in autoconfig and 6 Meg in nonauto.
  - 2091 with 2 Meg 16bit ram and a 52 Meg Quantum drive.

He wanted to get a new controller to speed up disk access and so bought a
GVP Series II hard drive controller card.

He put the Quantum drive on the GVP controller and it seemed to work ok. He
still left the 2091 card with 2meg ram since the GVP card uses SIMMS and he
didn't really want to buy any more memory. (Just faster disk access)

Now his problem is whenever he writes to the harddrive, serial data gets
corrupted. Using JR-Comm, when jrcomm writes the 16k buffer to the HD, the
next block gets a CRC error.

Anyone have any ideas ??  He has sort of fixed the problem by changing the
DMA mask to $fffffe (2 meg 32bit ram @$200000 and 2 meg 16bit (2091) @$400000,
the rest of the 32bit ram is above the 24bit address range) and runs a program
called dmafix I think.

He certainly didn't want all this trouble, and I suspect when the device goes to
write into the upper 32bit ram, disk access will be much reduced.

Has ANYONE had a similar problem or know exactly what is going on and ideas on
how to fix it ??

Mike.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: dburnett@emunix.emich.edu (Don Burnett)
Subject: Re: Photo-CD on Amiga/CDTV
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:10:32 GMT

>
>   Why should Kodak waste their time with Commodore?  Phillips is giving more
>than adequate support for PhotoCD, and has vastly better hardware for 
>displaying PhotoCD pictures in standard hardware, without needing expensive
>(and non-existant) extensions.
>
>>***********************************************************************
>>* Bob Campbell                 *    Well that's, er, very interesting *
>>* rcampbell@cudnvr.denver.     *   because, er, I am, in fact, made   *
>>*           colorado.edu       *   entirely of wood.                  *
>>* rsc@hao.ucar.edu             *                     - Scotsman, MPFC *
>>***********************************************************************
>>DISCLAIMER: "Nothing I say affects anyone else in any way."
>
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>COLLEGE FOOTBALL COACH WANTED.  Absolutely *NO* qualifications required
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  It seems to me Kodak is only advertising PhotoCD in MPC/ IBM publications
  these days.. The fact that the Amiga *CAN* do photoCD from a hardware
  and software standpoint these days is good enough for me.. Only the 
  smart people will then be able to take advantage of this.. The latest
  PC Week Commodore multimedia ad says that "3.5 million" people now 
  own Amigas.. That's good to here.. 


  PhotoCD may look neat, but until there are people with specific
  uses for it that impact my life it won't be an important factor for 
  me personally. How does this help sell the machine if it's not a
  factor in my buying decision...

  A lot of companies know about what Amigas/CDTV's can do, but won't 
  recognize them.. It's amazing to see Polaroid and Sharp advertising
  in AmigaWorld to me..


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From: jgeorge@amiganet.chi.il.us (John George)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Wanted: Info on hardware PAL/NTSC switch for Rev5 A500.
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:18:21 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

I'm looking for info on how to add a hardware PAL/NTSC switch on a Revision 5
A500 motherboard.  I know how to do it on a Rev 6 board... JP4 does the trick.
But there is no JP4 on a Rev 5 board!!  Any help would be appreciated.
From: jawil@hpx14.aid.no (Jan Roger Wilkens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000 (NOT!)
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:25:33 GMT
Organization: University of Oslo

In article <9828@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com>, peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
|> In article <kkrebs.02gj@amilink.UUCP> amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us (Ken Krebs) writes:
|>  >
|>  >P.S.  The HAM8 mode is simply AWESOME!  I want my AGA!  :)
|>  >
|>  >P.P.S.  Does anyone know why a 256 color GIF looks better in HAM8 mode than
|>  >        in 256 color mode under ADPro?  This kind of baffled me when I was
|>  >        converting pictures on the A4000.
|> 
|> Hmm, did I understand correctly or ist it really so trivial? You get
|> loads more colors under HAM8 than only 256! That should be enough reason
|> to let an image look better I think. Where is your difficulty?

But does it really matter if you convert the 256 color GIF picture into 256
or 16000000 colors? There won't be more than 256 colors anyway... (If you don
smoth it or anything that is...)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:37:59 GMT
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: barrett@iastate.edu's message of Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:59:03 GMT

>>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:59:03 GMT, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) said:

>>	The question we need to answer here is this:
>>
>>	1) Can an A4000 drive a 31Khz only monitor like the 3000 can?
>>
>>	If the answer is yes, then Marc is wrong, if the answer is no,
>>	Marc is correct.
Since Dave Haynie and others have repeatedly pointed out Marc is usually wrong,
it is probably safe to assume the answer is yes...

>    This is not a very good question, as the answer is "yes, it can."  The
i.e. "This is not a very good question, because it demonstrates Marc is wrong again."

> question is, "how much do you lose when you try to use a 31Khz-only monitor
> on an A3000 or an A4000?"  The answer for the A3000 is "very little", the
> answer for the A4000 is "quite a lot."  People have talked about writing
> utilities to force-promote all NTSC or PAL interlaced modes, but no such
> utilities exist yet.  
People have given ftp addresses where such a utility can be obtained.

> Even after such a utility was written, there likely would be a lot of games that
                                               ^^^^^^
i.e. again, Marc is guessing. Can anyone with an 4000 give a list of such games?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:34:52 GMT+2
Subject: Re: DOMINO-graphic-card?
From: harry@elfuerte.fipnet.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Distribution: world
Organization: Fipnet, Helsinki, Finland
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article ??? burkert1@platon.fmi.uni-passau.de (Klaus Burkert) writes:
> In article <harry.02ss@elfuerte.fipnet.fi> harry@elfuerte.fipnet.fi (Harri P Pesonen) writes:
> >
> >So if I add Domino to my A3000 I loose the internal flicker-fixer (Amber).
> >Domino would be great if it would input also A3000's VGA output and pass
> >that through instead...
> 
> It does, of course you must decide what to input as there's only one input...
> I actually missed to emphasize that Domino doesn't care about what signal
> it passes through. I use it on my A2000 with A2320 and A2630...

Huh, so I lost the last argument not to get Domino...   :-D

How about the speed?  The ad says that Domino needs at least 020.  Is it
because of speed?  It also uses Zorro II, which is much slower than Zorro
III, I'm told.

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From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Floptical and MS-DOS
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 08:04:24 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Yes, you can read the 720K and 1.44MB formatted disks.  You just
have to manually mount the device.
From: Rod_Rombauer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Rod Rombauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000 (NOT!)
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:34:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: neonate.Rod_Rombauer.06yh
Organization: The Village BBS

Sorry I cant quote from this system...

It sounds to me that this dweef who complaines up and down about the 4000
skimmed over a review and assumed the rest... he probably hasnt even seen
one in action.. I have... the last responder is right... It doesnt need a
viedo enhancer... What I saw was clean crisp 256 color Ham displays, one on
top of another and you could grab the screen and pull it up and down and
see the picture behind it with no visible refreshing... like flipping pages
almost...
Its fast, powerful, incredible with display (i didnt hear him even mention
anything about the 256 THOUSAND colors from a 16 MILLION color pallette
with the new HAM mode... nor did he say anything about the 68040...

Granted, there are a few things that they could have done... like SCSi
instead of IDE, but thats easilty fixed... and probably will be in future
revisions and they didnt improve Paula... but there has been talk about
do9ing that in a later revision... 
Ive seen sound cards that will do 12 bit sampling, but Ive heard that the
next step is 16 bit 8 channel!

My advise to the complaining lame-o... if you dont like the new A4000, dont
buy one! Go buy an IBM... 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 + AIBB = ERROR ?
From: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (LaMonte Koop)
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:18:45 -0600
Reply-To: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: SCS GP/Engineering Cluster

In article <jorngh.33.718677182@dhhalden.no>, jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN) writes:
>
>I just saw a report generated by AIBB 4.5 on an A4000
>and it said that the chip ram had 'Bus Port Size = 16 Bit'.
>
>What's that suppose to mean ?

It means that AIBB 4.5's memory bus port width code is in error...a fact I have
known about and since corrected some time ago in the later versions. (4.65 is
the latest as of now...4.55-4.61 had various problems and were 'jump-start'
releases..4.65 is the current true release).

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From: Zapper@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Zapper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I convert my 3000 to a 3000T?
Distribution: world
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:05:09 EDT
Organization: The QuBE BBS

In a message dated Fri 15 Oct 92  1:43, Mucci@circle.cs.jhu.edu (philip Muc
wrote:

 MM>  Does anyone know if it's possible to convert a 3000 desktop model
 MM> to a tower case? I'd love to be able to buy a cheap tower case and
 MM> switch. Has anyone done this?

  Just remove the contents of the a3000 desktop case and put them in the
biggest PC tower you can find. Then wire the power supply in the tower case
up to the 3000 motherboard. That's all there is to it, you will have to
improvise some connectors and mounting spots, but not difficult if you buy
a BIG case...

  Two local buddies did the same to their a3000s, and I am using a tower
a500 now with the same technique... it's simple to do, you just move
everything into the bigger box... ;>


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mas@Cadence.COM (Masud Khan)
Subject: Re: Help: red screen,flashing led
Keywords: a500,hardware
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:46:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.064109.9520@cs.ruu.nl> hpverwei@cs.ruu.nl (Dick Verweij) writes:
>
>Since I did something with the hardware (replacing rom) my ami went dead.
> (I am sure that roms were placed correctly) 
Oh yeh? that's what everybody says :-)
>The only thing I got was a red screen and a flashing power led.
>Could some hardware freak please tell me what has gone wrong???!!
>
>(After a while, only a dark screen with power led on)

This sounds like you didn't put your ROMs in correctly, either..

you've got loose connections in which case you'll have to push the

ROMs in harder or whilst handling them you've blown them up (did

you earth yourself first??) The other thing you can do is put

eveything back the way it was and see if it still works.

Hope this helps.

Mas
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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: New Amiga(s) Expansion/Future
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:42:10 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <35698@cbmvax.commodore.com> mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:

>Also, if you use the operating system the way we designed it, you can have
>a program that runs under 2.0 and will automagicly know about the new video
>modes in new machines (such as the A4000) and will be able to make use
>of those modes/features.  The only people that will get hurt are those that
>hit the hardware directly.

Just an extra note here -- programs that do the right thing should have no 
problem working under this RTG system that everyone's been waiting for.  On
the other hand, a program that can't even live on the AA chips or 3.0, both
rather minor changes when compared to running on a TIGA, VGA, or AmeriStar 
board, can't expect to do anything but die in flames on a board that requires
RTG.  

This implies that programmers will have to start behaving themselves sooner or 
later.  It has always been my philosophy that it's best to get programmers
behaving themselves a bit at a time, otherwise their heads explode.  We eased
everyone into 68020s and 68030s, then non-24 RAM, etc.  Now it's time to start
easing yourselves into future graphics architectures, starting with the AA
chipset.  It's just getting worse from here on if you're still banging 
registers.  The software and chip folks have been generous with bad 
programming practices on this so far by working hard (or wasting time, you 
decide) for full compatibility.  In my way of thinking, banging registers went 
out with the C128.

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