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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 12:50:52 EDT
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From:         JFCOVALE@SUVM.BITNET
Subject:      lake woebegon

I would second one part of Anne's recent flame: i.e., congratulations are
probably due to Oregon's teachers who did indeed do as they were asked.

But it seems to me that the posting to which she was responding was not
intended (and was not read, at least by me) as a criticism of the teachers,
as much as it was a criticism of what they were asked to do.  Do we really
defend spending X Billions of dollars on a system of institutions whose
mission is to raise test scores?????

Inevitably, of course, the answers to that question will beg the question
of what is the relation between high test scores and good education?  Which
in turn begs the question of what is good education?


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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 12:32:00 CDT
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From:         Snow Leopard <TH05324@SWTEXAS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Shorts and the Law

Once, when I ran the physical fitness program for my ship in the navy,
I would run such a program in the morning before quarters. There was
not enough time between the end of the morning program and quarters for
me to sufficiently cool down. To shower yes, but not to cool down. So,
even though I had shower, come quarters I was still drenched in sweat.
The new XO did not beleive this was proper for an officer to greet
troops in the morning (my own personal opinion is different  from that)
and since I was awaiting transfer and my other duties had already been
taken over, told me to skip quarters and cool down.

My own opinion was that being in excellent shape was more important that
being drenched in sweat.

But similar matters apply when the question comes up of wearing shorts.
There are disadvantages of being covered with sweat, glasses slip, pencils,
papers become hard to read, concentration is lost, etc.. I would beleive
that shorts would ease the problem, especially in the arid regions where
I live (Texas). If the shorts are proper, such as walking shorts and
not running shorts, any effect that they detract from the class should be
made up more than enough by the fact that the instructor is literally cool
and collective.

I have had an instructor who constantly wore shorts, even in a Texas winter.
I beleive his ancestory (a Maine region indian) gave him superior resistance
to cold. His wearing of shorts did not subtract from his excellent and
capable teaching of calculus and high level mathematics.

-Traci
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:00:16 LCL
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From:         Kevin@LEMOORE.ATI.COM
Subject:      Shorts and the Law
X-To:         EDPOLYAN@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU

Recently we have been having a problem with a couple of teachers wearing
shorts when we have placed in our school handbook that shorts should
not be worn to school. Because of this problem, we have stated that
shorts can not be worn to school.

Of course, the teachers union was quick to set up a meeting claiming
that we could not legally require our teachers to refrain from wearing
shorts.

I would be interested in finding out about some of the legal court
cases that may have dealt with this questions (especially cases the
occured in the California system and federal system. I would also
be interested in knowing how others have dealt with this issue and
how their dress code/policy is ad"dress"ed (pun not actually intended)
in board/district/site policies.

In addition, does anyone know of any specific research that documents
the philosophy that dress does affect the professionalism of a school,
and create an environment that is more conducive to learning.

Thanks

Kevin Kurtz
Assistant Principal
Lemoore Elementary School
100 Vine St.
Lemoore, CA 93245
(209) 924 -1224    (voice)
(209) 924 - 2274    (data/fax -- on when requested)
Kevin@lemoore.ati.com
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HEAD -- Department of Educational Psychology -- University of Calgary

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Applicants should send a curriculum vitae, the names of three referees,
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    Dean F. D. Oliva
    Faculty of Education
    University of Calgary
    Calgary, Alberta  T2N-1N4
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The Role of Vocational Education in Restructured Schools
  This hour-and-a-half videotape is of a teleconference titled "The Role
  of Vocational Education in Restructured Schools."  Objectives of the
  teleconference were to describe different approaches to restructuring,
  provide specific examples of the role of vocational education in
  restructuring, discuss the leadership necessary for restructuring,
  describe how restructuring can facilitate the integration of vocational
  and academic education, and discuss how students benefit from
  restructuring when vocational education becomes an integral part of
  their educational experience.
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:22:40 EDT
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From:         Anne Pemberton <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Multi-Age Classrooms
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              "Kevin@lemoore.ati.com" at Aug 20, 92 9:22 pm

Multi-age grouping multi-grade grouping is quite common in
special ed. Also, in schools where retention hasn't been
dispensed with, there are also multi-age groupings, although
these are not multi-grade.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:51:49 EDT
From:         "Geoffry S. Howard" <GHOWARD@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      St. Martin Advice Needed

Three requests for info:

  1. Anybody have any fairly recent experience with diving off St.
Martin, particularly the French part? This is NOT a prime SCUBA
destination, but I am wondering if this is because it is no good or
because it is as yet undiscovered....

  2. Here is our list of criteria for our upcoming 10 day vacation
to the Caribbean in January:

     A. Quiet, non-casino, non-night life environment,
     B. Villa style living with kitchenette and room for two
        couples,
     C. Good (but not necessarily super-class) SCUBA, with
        a mix of shore dives and boat dives possible,
     D. Mostly European rather than American tourists,
     E. Very liberal rules of attire on the beaches,
     F. Good beaches and snorkeling opportunities for non-
        diving spouses.

(We were at Negril, Jamaica, last year, and it met all these
criteria to a tee. But the couple we are going with does not
want to go to a repeat destination.)

3. Can anyone put me onto a source of documantation on how to
search old mail on the server based on keywords? I have seen
it but can't find the darn documentation now that I really
need it.

Thanks to all for the help!!
From: cee@wshb.csms.com ( HBS/WSHB Sr Station Mgr)
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Subject: Re: St. Martin Advice Needed
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:45:53 GMT
Organization: WSHB, Herald Broadcasting Syn., Inc., Cypress Creek, SC, USA


	I would suggest that you try the Stella Maris Inn, Long Island,
Bahamas.  This resort should fit your needs very well, and is run by
transplanted Germans.
	Also, Small Hope Bay Lodge on Andros Island will fit the bill,
although most of the divers there will probable be American.  
	Both offer "liberal" clothing options, whether diving or sun-
bathing.
ED
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From: "doug hook" <doug.hook@canrem.com>
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Subject: uboat in g.lakes ??
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:51:51 EST
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I found the following on the fido scuba echo. Does anyone have any
further info on this wreck ??

DZ>I got this little goody off GEnie today:

DZ>=START=   XMT: 12:21 Thu Aug 06  EXP: 12:00 Thu Aug 13

DZ>SALVAGERS LOCATE SUNKEN GERMAN SUBMARINE FROM WORLD WAR I IN LAKE
DZ>MICHIGAN

DZ>CHICAGO (AUG. 6) UPI - Salvagers have located a sunken World War I
DZ>German submarine in good condition in the depths of - Lake Michigan.

DZ>The UC-97 submarine was one of six that toured the United States
DZ>after the war. However, the 1918 Treaty of Versailles required that
DZ>all German combat vessels the Allies held be destroyed.

DZ>On June 21, 1921, the UC-97 was taken out on the lake and the crew of
DZ>the USS Wilmette shelled it for 15 minutes, sinking the vessel.

DZ>The sub's exact location was a mystery for more than 70 years.

DZ>But salvagers said they located it with sonar last week after 15
DZ>years of searching and its good condition is thanks to the salt-free
DZ>water of the lake.

DZ>Alan Olson, co-owner of A&T Recovery in Berwyn, said Wednesday the
DZ>boat is in 200 feet of water, about 20 miles northeast of Navy Pier.
DZ>He and Taras Lyssenko hope to get a permit to raise the 182-foot
DZ>World War I submarine and put it on display. The salvage company has
DZ>filed a claim with the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency.

DZ>''We were ecstatic,'' Olson said. ''We stopped the (search) boat
DZ>right over it. Said a couple of words. Did a handshake.''

DZ>Olson said he and Lyssenko spent thousands of hours scanning 144
DZ>square miles of the lake in their search. They plan to send down a
DZ>remote-controlled mini-sub with a television camera for a closer
DZ>look. They hope to raise it and put it on display.

DZ>Only one other German World War I sub is known to exist. It is in a
DZ>museum in Munich, Germany, said naval historian David A. Myers Jr. of
DZ>Waukegan.

DZ>Myers said photos of the firing on the UC-97 in Lake Michigan
DZ>indicate it did not break apart or explode.



DZ>=END=

The idea of a sub in the great lakes as a wreck for diving seems more
attractive than putting it on display topside, don't you think.

Doug
doug.hook@canrem.com

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:38:00 N
From:         KRAUS_V@DULRUU51.BITNET
Subject:      Diving in California

Hi Californian Divers,

I have to ;-) attend a congress at the University of California, La Jolla,
San Diego (networks '92, from august 31th to september 4th).
Afterwards, I am on vacation for two more weeks. I will bring my
diving gear with me 8-). Any suggestions where to dive and what to see
are welcome.

Thank you in advance

Volker


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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:49:41 PDT
From:         Tim Chase <A3TC@PSUORVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Dolphins

I heard on the radio that a couple of Dalphins had made their way to
freedom from a Florida show. These Dolphins had shows at 10-4-6.
Now, after a few days, reports of Dolphins in a golf course lagoon
playing for food at 10-4-6 started to come in.

The moral of the story is mammalian wellfair corrupts across all
lines :) 8}

I guess "bread lines" are getting longer again.

Tim Chase Computer Operator Specialist PSU
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From: bmacmill@epas.utoronto.ca (Bruce MacMillan)
Subject: Looking for Used Dive Computers
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 04:11:29 GMT

Hi: I am looking to purchase used, or old stock, dive computers and
other dive instrumentation of all types, models and makes.  Please
contact me if you have any information in this regard. Best wishes.

-- 
Bruce MacMillan
bmacmill@epas.utoronto.ca
Voice: (416) 599-9261	(519) 542-4572
FAX: (416) 978-8821	(519) 542-4854
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:33:00 EDT
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From:         WVANDERC@BENTLEY.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Lobsters

The answer is the octopus!
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:29:00 EDT
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From:         WVANDERC@BENTLEY.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Lobsters

The question was "Why are there no clawed lobsters in the waters of NorthWest
America?" or something to that effect.  The answer is Octopus! (This also
explains the lack of octopi in the waters of NorthEast America).

I suppose I should explain more but I'll wait for someone to ask!

Bill VAnderClock      PADI OWSI #200330
WVANDERC@BENTLEY      "Dr. Deep"
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:26:16 PDT
From:         Tim Chase <A3TC@PSUORVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Equipment

Me thinks that this post did not go out the first time...if it did, sorry.

My co-worker was out looking through the ever active underground scuba
2nd hand market. This is what he found:

Posiedon regulator with safe 2nd
Din fitting and a adaptor for J/K valves
Mares computer console
2 sets of Techna fins
Tusa BCD
Scuba repair case
Mask
Impulse snorkel and basic snorkel
Boots
Soft weight belt

Hate mail can be sent to a3nc@psuorvm

for those who live in Oregon there will be a big sale at Pacific Water
Sports located in Aloha Oregon just outside of Beaverton. Lots of stuff!
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:23:00 EDT
From:         bpm@HOMXA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Wetsuits

In response to Karin's query on wetsuits:

I purchased my 1/4" wetsuit via mailorder from Berry's SCUBA and have
been very pleased with it.  It's well made, comfortable, and very warm.
It is their Royal Farmer John style and is plush lined with extra
thick knee pads.  I've only got about 10 shallow (<40 ft) dives on it
so far so it may be too early to get a good idea of it's true quality,
but from the looks of it I expect it to hold up very well.  I believe
Berry's price for this suit is around $180, but when I ordered mine
back in October 91 it was on sale for $159, very hard to resist.
I have used the full FJ on dives around 50 degrees and have been very
comfortable, but these were shallow dives (<40 ft) and suit
compression probably wasn't too great.  I'll be doing some deeper
dives soon so I'll get a better idea how it insulates at depth then.

I've also used just the FJ top in warmer water (70 degrees) and have
been able to stay in the water snorkeling literally for hours without
becoming chilled.

On a side note, Berry's informed me when I placed my order that they
will allow you to mix sizes between the top and bottom for an extra
ten dollars.  Sizes X-tra Large and above are also ten dollars extra.

Hope this info helps.

Byron Magnin
att!homxa!bpm
bpm@homxa.att.com
W (908) 949-7121
H (908) 918-0843
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:52:20 PDT
From:         Tim Chase <A3TC@PSUORVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: BC

No, there is a way to ditch the weight without  the BC. I looked into
this a while back. I hear from some people that the older style BC's
made it hard for you to float with the Zeagle. Anyone use this
BC out there?
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:21:30 CDT
From:         SMcConkey%EMC=Srvc%Eng=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      Zeagle BC weight ditching

My wife and I both dive with Zeagle BCs. The weights are held in special
pockets with rip cord parachute type releases at the bottom. The weights
release well (even when doing rescue drills with the diver at the surface on
their back). We have had none of the 'face down' surface flotation problems
noted here on the net (this is a situation that I have had personal experience
with diving with an AT Pack 12-13 years ago, boy what a pain).

Be aware that the Zeagle system is in my opinion not for everyone and that
the personal sizing system that is so attractive to many divers requires more
concentration when selecting the individual parts of the BC to ensure it fits
right.

We enjoy our Zeagles and I feel that we have had enough experience with other
BC configurations not to be suffering from the dreaded 'Its The Best I've Ever
Used (and the only)' attitude.


Steve McConkey

____________________________________________________________________________
Compaq Computer, EMC Services
InterNet : SMcConkey%EMC=SRVC%Eng=Hou.bangate.compaq.com
        My company's opinion....heck my wife doesn't even agree.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:24:24 EST
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From:         BKING@UCC.UWINDSOR.CA
Subject:      long boat

Please reply to list or me Bking@ucc.uwindsor.ca
I am at the University of Windsor, Ontario Canada
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Could someone please inform me of scuba diving near Sarasota, Florida?
I am interested in the week of Nov. 12 - 21st.  What could I expect
to see? Any hazards you know of?
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:29:00 CDT
From:         COBBLE MASTER <LAPORTEM@OSHKOSHW.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Re Zeagle BC

Date sent:  17-AUG-1992 10:28:38
>
>What kind of weights are used with the Zeagle BCs ? Are they standard, so you
>can pack the BC, take it
>on holiday and rent some weights there, or do you need to carry around an extra
>10 pounds of lead
>when you're getting on the plane??

Usually the bags of lead shot are used because they are more comfortable but
regular weights work in the pockets as well.

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