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From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: 'comp.infosystems.gopher.announce' newsgroup
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.gopher
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 14:09:00 GMT

In article <billy.724755234@sol> billy@sol.acs.unt.edu (Billy Barron - VAX/UNIX Systems Manager) writes:
>atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) writes:
>
>>It is far from clear that the existing traffic is so high that we
>>really need to split off a ~.announce newsgroup at this point.
>>
>A lot of the traffic for this new group is currently hidden on some mailing
>lists (gopherdiff, ann-lots, cis, etc).
>
I think some moderated forum for announcements is a good idea, wheither
by list or news group.

I would be tempted to suggest a monthly "what's new" digest, but someone
would have to do the work of summarizing.

I personally would prefer (since I don't mantain a server) to seperate
the new software announcements from the pointers to new resources
on servers.

Could someone review for us the relevant mailing lists in more detail?

-- 
    Albert Lunde                      Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu
From: lfm@snclib.snc.edu (JT the LFM)
Subject: Wisconsin Area Gopher Users
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 15:58:45 CST
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I know this isn't the completely correct forum for this, but since it is a
topic of interest, I thought I'd do this one-time posting.  Flames to /dev/null.

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: lux@sol.UVic.CA (Michael O'Henly)
Subject: More on 1.1 "nothing available" error...
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:09:43 GMT

    I reported a problem with 1.1 last night that I have been looking
at some more this morning...

    I have a directory (two levels down from gopherhome) that contains
four additional levels of subdirectories. When I browsed down to this
directory and selected it, I got a "nothing available" error. When I
reinstalled 1.03 and rm'd the .caches, I was again able to access this
directory and all that it contains.

    Today I checked every branch of the server and it is only this one
directory that exhibits the problem. It's a large directory, but not
much larger than others in the system.

    So, I made a copy of the afflicted branch and tested that. Same
thing -- I get "nothing available" for both the original and the copy.
(I also ran fsck to be sure that this wasn't some kind of file system
corruption.)

    Next, I created a new directory "parallel" to this one and started
to duplicate that branch of the server. I started with one subdir and
then tested it. OK, I was able to see one subdir.  Then I added a
.link file to that subdir and tested it -- and got a "nothing
available" error at the level of the first parallel directory (i.e.,
the same level I originally experienced the problem).

    The interesting thing is that other branches of the server contain
links to items in the area I can't browse to -- and the links are
working perfectly...

    I'm completely mystified. Any thoughts about this?

    Michael
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From: levitz@theta.cs.fsu.edu (Hilbert Levitz)
Subject: CAI-Net and related products.
Summary: Would Like Opinion Of a Vendor's Product
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 15:05:42 GMT


Our institution has been approached by a vendor with a product named CAI-Net.
We are looking for advice from anyone who uses it or a related product
or who just knows about it.

It is a system of hardware/software that provides a uniform interface for the
end user to a wide variety of platforms and applications  scattered around the
organization - even to machines residing on networks using different networking
technology.

The alleged advantage, is that it permits organizations to continue to use
equipment and software in which they've already made considerable investment.

Please let me know any opinion or evaluations you've made concerning this
product or related products. We want to profit from your experience.  

Hilbert Levitz
Dept of Computer Science
Florida State University
levitz@cs.fsu.edu

P.S. Please respond directly to me via e-mail.
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From: msains@ibis.ru.ac.za (Malcolm Sainsbury)
Subject: Best grad schools for Information Systems
Organization: IS Department, Rhodes University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:52:33 GMT

A colleague of mine has a sabbatical year coming up (June 1993) and
is investigating postgraduate study (Masters level) in the USA.  His
major interests are in Software Engineering, with particular enthusiasm
for high-level development tools and environments.  

He asked me to recommend some good USA programmes, but I realise that
I have lost touch over the past three years.  Could members of this 
group please suggest some excellent grad schools he could contact and 
provide any information about their programmes that might help.

Since his year has been almost fully sponsored in advance, cost is not a 
major factor in choosing a good school.  He also has a very solid academic 
record so will almost certainly be accepted by most good schools.

If you post suggestions in this group I will see that he gets them.

Malcolm
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From: chad@ceco.ceco.com (Chad W. Bohlmann)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: GPS
Summary: Where to find GPS sites
Keywords: Basestation, differential, GPS
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:03:56 GMT
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co., Chicago, IL

Hello all,
	I'm truly sorry if I am posting to the wrong area, but I can't find a
comp.infosystems.gps in our list of groups.  I was wondering where in the Chicago
area I could download GPS correctional data for differential corrections.  I 
heard some time ago that there were such places going into operation, but I have
been a bit out of touch with the GIS/GPS world lately.  If anyone knows of any
places like this please e-mail me, or point me in the right direction if there
is one.
	Thanks!
	Chad Bohlmann
	chad@ceco.com
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:44:21 -0500
From:         Geoffrey Wright <jwright@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>

Over the last few weeks I have seen references to ftp sites for image and
map files.  Would someone out there be willing to summarize what is
available through the network?  I will be glad to post a summary of the
replies.
I am looking specifically for a street map for New Haven, CT.  Thanks in
advance, Jed Wright.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:20:23 HNE
From:         Chris Gold <CGOLD@VM1.ULAVAL.CA>
Subject:      Re: sun angle and azimuth
              15 Dec 1992 10:39:58 EST from <hnw@MTQGRASS.ESD.ORNL.GOV>

Bill Hargrove (& anyone else interested):

Sun altitude & azimuth are, of course, traditional calculations.

You may, however, want to look at the very first paper I ever
published (I was very proud of it at the time!):

Parry, J.T. and C.M. Gold, 1972. Solar altitude nomogram.
Photogrammetric Engineering, Sept. 1972.

(Actually, I did the work, John Parry wrote it up)

Chris Gold.
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:48:30 -0500
From:         hoffmann@JURANET.JURIS.DBP.DE
Subject:      RE: Automatic Map Generating

You should consult geodesists at your Bldg. at "Arcisstrasse".

MfG,
FH-TUDresden
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From: orion@phobos.unm.edu (Tim Guerrette)
Subject: GIS/LIS Book list wanted...
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:30:42 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

HELP! I am looking for a GIS/LIS book list. I want to see the best books on
the market. Does anyone have this information or know where I can FTP it?

Please respond to me directly.

Thanks,

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Timothy Guerrette	    		Internet: orion@polaris.unm.edu
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM
    "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is vision, today is just a bitch!"
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From: afs090@clss1.bangor.ac.uk ( Mr. J.D.Stocks)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: GIS job wanted
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:20:55 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Bangor
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Hello GIS Land,
I am interested in working abroad, i.e. out of Britain,
in Australia, the US, Canada or New Zealand.

Does anyone have any research money out there for a BA and MSc postgrad
with 2 and a half years experience gained on SPANS, GRASS, and IIS

I have used VMS, MSDOS and UNIX 

I have taught 10 GIS courses to postgrads, and managed a VAX/VMS microvax
for the Institute of Terrestrial Ecology here in the UK.


I can program in FORTRAN, BASIC and some C.

Any offers gratefully accepted, even if its only for a few months.

Cheers,

Jeremy Stocks

afs090@bangor.ac.uk in the UK.


 
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From: M.W.Stern@massey.ac.nz (M.W. Stern)
Subject: Re:      Re: running INFO from menu interface
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:31:11 GMT

I'm sorry I missed the begining of this thread but here is some info that
may be useful.

I am running ARC/INFO V6.0 on a SUN Sparc Station with SUNOS and 
Openlook 2.something.

Now, I gather the problem is to run INFO in a window on it's own, and feed it
commands from another process/program/whatever. Well this is possible using
a pipe. Try the following:

1. Start a cmdtool (this is an openlook thing) window and type "mknod pipe p"
   ("pipe" is the name of the pipe, see the Unix documentation for mknod)

2. Then start ARC/INFO with it taking input from the pipe, by typing
   "arc < pipe". The current window will display nothing as it is waiting
   for the next command from the pipe.

3. Feed the pipe commands one at a time from any program (you can even use
   the AML function WRITE to write to a pipe). The program opens the pipe as
   a text file and writes commands to it. These are then executed by ARC/INFO.

To test this out you can open another cmdtool. Then use cat to drive ARC/INFO
by typing "cat > pipe". Now type a command in the window that is running cat
eg "INFO" and the window running ARC/INFO will respond.

There is a catch. Because of ARC/INFO's over-zealous license manager you
will not be able to run another session of ARC/INFO once you have the piped
session going if you only have a single user license (like me). This prevents
you from using an ARC/INFO program to control the piped session. You must
either use another type of program, C maybe, or get another license. Just to
clarify things on the SUN console under Openlook you can normally run multiple
sessions of ARC/INFO using a single user license. Remote users using 
X-terminals are still restricted to one session anyway.

Hope this helps.

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Massey University       |  
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:11:23 EST
From:         Sebastian Francis Sherman Heath/81920 <sfsh@IKAROS.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject:      ARC/INFO Pricing?

A while back I got a quote from the ARC/INFO folk of $6000 for a single
machine license.  I believe this was for 30 users.  Can anyone tell me
if it is possible to get a cheaper license for fewer people.  Are
there time limits on the license.
Sorry to be a little vague.  I am gathering information for the PI of
a grant and we discarded the detailed notes and have now been asked for
details.
-Thanks
Sebastian Heath
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From:         WEIHE GUAN <GLLGUAN@UBVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: running INFO from menu interface

> If you are working in a windows environment, just let a button stand
> for the creation of a new window in which you can load info.

Yes I am using X-window and/or Openwin3.0. on a SUN SPARC station,
running unix system.

The problem is: In an aml program, I can call up arcedit and arcplot windows,
as well as text browse windows, yet I haven't found a way to call up an INFO
window. I tried to add a unix command in an aml to get a new window, hoping
to enter a new arc session and from there to INFO, but anything following
the "xterm &" line in that aml program were still executed in the old window
instead of the new one :-(.

> If you want a menu driven interface for info, you might be in for a more
>  complicated piece of programming - the data block might be used in a variety
 of
>  ways
> to pass variables to info.

Yes I do wish to be able to build a menu driven interface for info. But that
is the second step. If I can call up a new window for INFO from an aml menu,
I will first try to pass basic variables throught the "&data arc info ... &end"
routine.

> Hope this helps.
>
> Srinivas

Thanks much for picking up the topic. Hope to get more advice from you all.

- Weihe Guan
SUNY at Buffalo
gllguan@ubvms.bitnet
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:49:32 -0500
From:         "RICHARD S. LITTLE" <UN072147@WVNVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      SET GIS-L NOMAIL

SET GIS-L NOMAIL.  THANK YOU.  Richard Little "UN072147@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU"
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:29:02 -0800
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              navanax@CARSON.U.WASHINGTON.EDU
From:         "T. M. Edwards" <navanax@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      VIGIS-L traffic

   Duane Marble's comment is taken under consideration. But I highly
doubt that the level of traffic on VIGIS-L will amount to anything as
significant as GIS-L or MAPS-L. Subscribers of UIGIS-L can attest to
the almost non-existent traffic flow on that newsgroup, and yet it
encompasses an even broader scale than virtual reality interfaces. I
would hope that VIGIS-L will support ongoing discussions more
frequently than UIGIS-L has, but that is yet to be seen.
   There is a simple solution for those who are tired of more list
server newsgroups: don't subscribe! If you have an strong interest in
VR and GIS, I encourage you to subscribe and take part. If not, don't
worry about it. If the level of traffic on VIGIS-L ever reaches
levels like GIS-L or MAPS-L, then the USENET will be considered as
an alternative. For now, the only mailboxes that will be "clogged"
will be those which are voluntarily in that condition.

   Tom Edwards
   VIGIS-L Moderator
   navanax@u.washington.edu
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:24:29 EST
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From:         Rob Parry <rparry@HYDROLAB.ARSUSDA.GOV>
Subject:      RE: MAPS-L

In Message Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:27:05 CST,
  Phil Chaney <phil@SPOCK.UARK.EDU> writes:

>>
>> While I am pleased to see some interest in the GIS community in what
>> the virtual reality work can mean to us, PLEASE don't implement it as
>> a list server! Dealing with MAPS-L is bad enough and yet another source
>> of large volumes of mail should be avoided if there is any alternate.
>
>I would like to know more about MAPS-L. If anyone out there has any info
>on this subject, or info on how to subscribe, please notify me by email.
>

Dito.  I couldn't find any reference to it in a listing of Listserv groups
(but it was a couple of months old).

Rob


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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:12:52 CST
From:         Chitra Moitra <moitra@VINNY.CECER.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      unsubscribe

PL. unsubscribe me from the list.
thank you
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:25:27 EST
From:         "Toren, Beth" <BTOREN@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      18th cen. Engl. Census request

Hello.  I am looking for census records and any files of other geographic
information from Eighteenth Century England.  I am interested in using GIS
for historical research.  Roads, rivers, population, natural resources, and
any other "historical atlas" type of information will help me.  Of course the
information is out there, but is it in an electronic format which I can use to
plot these characteristics of the 1700s?  If anyone has a clue that may help
me, please respond. Sincere thanks.


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From: jgibb@fox.nstn.ns.ca (John Gibb)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: GIS course for Info Sys Students
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:12:17 GMT
Organization: Environment Canada

In article <E.Todd-181292134151@130.123.3.138> news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:

>I am starting a new post graduate course to introduce Information Systems
>Students to GIS.  Most of our students have completed a first degree in
>Business Studies, majoring in computing information systems.  They are NOT
>technically orientated computer science students.  The course is only one
>tenth of a years work so can not be very detailed.  I entend concentrating
>on the problems of implementation, management from the Infomation Systems
>Departments point of view (help to users etc) and application areas. 
>Roughly based on the third volume of the NCGIA Core Curriculum.  I am
>trying to organise access to IDRISI to give them some practical experience.

>Our students usually go  into trainy management/consultancy or
>systems/business analyst type positions.  We have a large number of mature
>students who require a business computing qualification.

>Is there anyone else out there teaching GIS to a simlar group of students. 
>I would be interested in ideas, methods etc.

>Most participants in this group appear to be users of GIS.  
>- What sorts of things  would you like your Info. Sys. Department managers
>to know about?
>- Where do you think GIS can be used within the Business World as opposed
>to the "Government",  Facilites  Management area?

>E. G. Todd
>Department of Information Systems
>School of Mathematics and Information Sciences
>Massey University
>New Zealand
>(email: E.Todd@massey.ac.nz)
There is a College called
College of Geographical Sciences (COGS)
located at
Lawrencetown,Nova Scotia
Canada
that is developing a correspondence course using IDRISI as the GIS package
they are on internet (i don't know the E-MAIL address)
the contact person is either Tim Webster or John Crant Phone 1-(902)-584-2226

also Memorial University in Newfoundland, Canada teach a course using IDRISI 
as the GIS the contact person is Scott Freundschuh email sfreundsch@kean.ucs.
mun.ca