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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "A Man Alone"
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:01:16 GMT
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Timothy W. Lynch (tlynch@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
>WARNING:  The following post contains spoiler information regarding this 
>week's DS9 offering, "A Man Alone".  ...

>-- I'm trying to figure out how the cloning issue here fits in with "Up the 
>Long Ladder".  Given that in UtLL, clones were seen as an unworkable way of 
>running a society, I wonder why it's still being looked into here.  My guess 
>is that the clone of Ibudan we last saw in the vat would be a very 
>short-lived fellow (perhaps on a scale of days or weeks) -- but if so, why 
>wouldn't Bashir mention it?

In Up The Long Ladder, clones were a problem because eventually cloning
wouldn't work because the longer you ran a string of clones the more mutation
you got to the point where you couldn't clone anymore.  At no time was there
a mention that a clone was any shorter lived than the original.  Indeed,
the only reason this clone's life would be shorter is because the clone
will probably be 30+ years old, as the original was.  There is no reason
that I can detect that Ibudan's clone short be short lived.  Indeed, the
only quesiton that comes up is the ethics of creating a clone without
acquiring the donor's permission.

Mark Runyan   {r.a.s. random rationalizer}
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Constitution, or Galaxy
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:40:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.rawdon.727987248
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1993Jan22.235636.21000@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> cbittel@scoraz.resp-sci.arizona.edu (Clinton Bittel) writes:
>      A friend of mine mentioned the other day that he seemed to think
>    that the Constitution Class starship of old looked better then
>    the newer Galaxy Class.  Is there anyone out there who concurs with this
>    statement?  I'd probably have to agree with him.....although the newer
>    design seems to have a hotrod look to it.

I agree.  I've thought that the Galaxy class looked silly ever since I saw my
first promo pic of it.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI

"I think that (one of) TNG's problems is that it considers lacking action,
 humor and character interplay to be interchangable with cerebral (just like
 it often considers civility and lack of conflict interchangable with
 friendship)."
			- Atsushi Kanamori on rec.arts.startrek, 7 July 1991
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From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Re: Picard's clothes--TOTAL SPOILERS ("Ship in a Bottle")
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:29:18 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.tech
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <C1H1Hu.B2F@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dclg9237@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Lloyd) writes:


>Sholdn't Picard have been naked when he, Data, and Barclay left the
>holllow deck at the end of "Ship in a Bottle"?  I mean, he had on his
>blue shirt and red suede jacket when they first went in to speak to
>Moriarty, and the "regular" red tunic when they finally left at the end
>of the show.

>Any thoughts?

I believe that this can be explained by a better understanding of
holodeck treknology.  The holodeck apparently will create simple items
using replicator treknology, so that they can be removed from the
holodeck safely.  Certainly, this would be the case for food and
clothes for safety and decency reasons.  It may also be the case for
other simple objects, such as pieces of paper (eg. "Elementary, Dear
Data").  Of course, this explanation somewhat contradicts what was
said about holodeck matter being different.  Perhaps this is explained
in one of r.a.s.tech's FAQ lists.  (It certainly should be.)

--PC


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From: BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:31:50 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <C13xI4.7x3@cmptrc.lonestar.org> <rawdon.727587769@cs.wisc.edu>
  <1993Jan21.200508.29368@ncar.ucar.edu>

>Well, whaddya know.  Michael and I finally agree on an entry for the
>"Worst Ten" list!  (We've never agreed about "The Royale." :-) "Qpid"
>is an episode that I'll always stay away from.  I don't even like the
>"merry man" line, partly because I saw Michael Dorn at a Denver Con
>say how much *he* hated that episode and having to say that line (too
>funny for Worf, I guess).  The thing I hate about "Qpid" the most is
>that it has Vash in it.  I can't handle "Captain's Holiday" for the
>same reason, although it is a better story.  That woman really gets
>under my skin; I can't tolerate her face on my tube.


    Geez, don't you folks have a sense of humor? QPid was clearly
    meant for laughs. Not to thrill, not for drama, not to preach
    (any episode that doesn't preach should earn bonus points)
    just to make us laugh. And it did that very well.
    *Picard trying to hide his relationship with Vash
    *Vash and Beverly going off to exchange Picard notes
    *Picard: "Number One, I've just had a visit from Q"
     Riker: "I'll alert the crew..."
    *Q's enticing Picard with the archaelogical dig of a lifetime
    *Deanna's very bad aim with an arrow
    *Worf's final solution to Geordi's lire playing
    *Picard's difficulties climbing in the window
    *Picard's arguing with Vash in mid-escape    

    All in all, the funniest TREK since "The Voyage Home".
    
    -Brian

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: matt@unidata.ucar.edu (Matt Hicks)
Subject: Re: Where was Keiko? Again? (Possible spoilers "Babel")
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:21:08 GMT

I don't know if this control-L thing is going to work so here are
some carriage returns too. Anyway you were warned.




















Okay, so her hubby is dying and Keiko doesn't ever show up to
fawn over him?! How much does this actress demand for an appearance?
I find her character really boring and her dialog insipid anyway, so
if they're not going to use her, why not kill her off and get it 
over with? I wish they'd either write her a more interesting role
(other than "unfulfilled career woman/I know, I'll work with kids")
or write her out of the show so she doesn't keep creating these
situations where she is conspicuous by her absence. Anyone else find
this now-you-see-her/now-you-don't behavior annoying and a bit
distracting?

Just wondering.


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: mjm4@ellis.uchicago.edu (Michael J McNaughton)
Subject: Re: Funniest TNG (was Re: WORST EPISODE)
Reply-To: mjm4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:54:44 GMT

In article <C1Ip90.EMw@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:
>In article <C1Gxoz.E3I@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> dkgardin@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Dan Gardiner) writes:
>>
>>   Sorry I can't remember the name of the episode, but it's the one where Q is 
>>  turned human.  What I consider the funniest moment in TNG doesn't even contain a
>>  line of dialogue.>
>
>That's "Deja Q".

One of my favorite Q scenes ever is in this episode. Right after Q#2 reinstates
our favorite Q as a member of the continuum (in the shuttlecraft) I loved it
how he snaps his fingers and the rather large Calamarain (sp) are now shrunk
to palm sized in his hand. His quote about "If you think you suffered before.."
is priceless... as is Q#2's warning to be good...

So Q just blows the shrunken Calamarain away. heh. True omnipotence and 
disregard for lower forms of life. yep, truly Q. Or is that True Q? No
wait, that's the other episode...

-- 
Michael J. McNaughton				I'd rather have a bottle in
The University of Chicago			front of me, than to have
mjm4@midway.uchicago.edu			a frontal lobotomy!
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From: mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN)
Subject: Re: Kira and her scale on the babe-o-meter
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 06:41:20 GMT

In article <C161GL.1sD@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield) writes:
>In article <Jan.20.13.03.45.1993.15128@gauss.rutgers.edu>
>trechak@gauss.rutgers.edu (Lord B. Paul Trechak) writes:
>
>> Personally, although Kira is good looking, I think Dax is much better
>> looking
>> 
>> Brad T.
>
>yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!
>
>Let's make a list of those who like the actress who plays Dax.
>
Oh, please don't.  Every teen guy on the net (myself included)
thinks Dax is a babe and those spots on her neck somehow really
work for her.  Terry Farrel is gorgeous.  Can we leave it at that
and not post a ridiculous number of articles with names of "people
who like Dax"?  It wastes a lot of bandwidth.  The Kira listing
is getting very ridiculous.

Marc
mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu


-- 
"So you're choosing to run from your own people in a rackety old TARDIS?"
		     D  O  C  T  O  R     W  H  O
				30 Years
           "Why not?  After all, that's how it all started!"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: frank@fnbc.com (Frank Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Odo's nose *spoilers*
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:31:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.012936.29890@oracle.us.oracle.com> sszeller@us.oracle.com  
(Scott S. Zeller) writes:
> In article <1993Jan13.202617.508@netcom.com> linley@netcom.com (Bruce James  
Robrert Linley) writes:
> >Weak spoilers from the 2ne episode of DS9 (Sorry forgot the name)
> 
> >I also have a problem with the way he violates the conservation
> >of mass law (The mouse turning back into Odo). The extra matter didn't seem
> >to come from anywhere. Damn writers.
> >-- 
> 
> I do not understand the problem people are having with this.  Isn't it  
entirely
> possible/believable for the rat (or the money pouch from 'Emissary') to be
> composed of denser matter?  Just because it looks like a rat, doesn't mean  
that
> it is one (or has the internal physiology of one).

Although a 100 kilo rat-sized rat would leave dents in the floor, I would  
think.

Maybe he can alter his weight (but not mass) -- which means the Cardassi  
carrying the Odo bag would be tugged off balance every time he turned a  
corridor or stopped.  Hmmm.

--
Frank Mitchell,	Business Systems Analyst, First National Bank of Chicago
email:frank@fnbc.com (NeXTmail)

"I see the problem.  You have a refrigerator on your legs."
-- "Didi", _Death: THe High Cost of Living_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: djb6@ellis.uchicago.edu (Dennis Brennan)
Subject: Re: No Vulcans!
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc 
Keywords: Vulcans in StarFleet.
Reply-To: djb6@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:11:02 GMT

>						- Chuck 
>
>PS:  You'll note that the Enterprise has no non-humans in the command 
>     structure (although we hardly ever see the members of the other
>     watches).  I think the Vulcan captain in the DS9 pilot was the 
>     first example of this that I've seen, although I'm frequently wrong. 

I think that the Bolian (Bolan?), one of the three officers who met
with Picard in the beginning of TNG "Conspiracy" was a ship captain.

Followups to r.a.s.misc
I've already been flamed twice this week about posting messages like
this in r.a.s.current

-- 
Dennis Brennan
djb6@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: TNG Companion
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:02:32 GMT

In <1993Jan26.150430.9360@sx.mont.nec.com> ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan) writes:
>This is how I've been taught to expand the sentence:

><Like Tim and I, Nemecek started out doing fan produced guides.>

>	EXPANDS TO:

><Like Tim started out doing fan produced guides and I started out doing 
>fan produced guides, Nemecek started out doing fan produced guides.>

>As you can see, although the expanded sentence is awkward, it is 
>grammatically correct and is a valid representation. 

>Clearly, "me" cannot replace "I" in either sentence.

This makes the most sense of any post I've seen on the subject.  You win the
Kewpie Doll, Ellison. :-)

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI

"Can this world not do better than you for a champion?"
"Probably.  I just do the best I can."
					- The Brigadier
					  Doctor Who, "Battlefield"
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.current:25095 rec.arts.startrek.misc:14224
From: jfriday@helena.stat.uga.edu (Paul Stacy)
Subject: Re: TOS computer voice
Organization: UGA Statistics Department
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:57:14 GMT

In article <9301210630.AA16618@cerebus.physics.utoronto.ca> news@shark.physics.ubfd.ca () writes:
>        Does anyone know who did the voice for the Enterprise computer in
>TOS?  Is it just my imagination, or does it sound like a very "digitized"
>Majel Barrett?
>

That is definately Majel Barrett (though I think they should have made
the voice sound more normal and not so machine-like.



Paul "Joe Friday" Stacy


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: rotheroe@convex.com (Dave Rotheroe)
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:14:39 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>>[...] (I think.  Trying to remember Q
>>episode titles are almost as bad as trying to remember Remmington Steele
>>ones!!!) still kills me.

I hope I got this one right.  Q-pid, when Q becomes mortal and is trying to
convince the crew he is.  Paraphrased:

Q:  What must I do to convice you I'm human?

Worf:  Die! (as only Worf could, with sarcasm)

==================================================================8--<
Dave Rotheroe                rotheroe@convex.com              DoD#0045
CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX 75083-3851, (214) 497-4512
A day without sunshine is like...   night
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9 Ranks
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:27:41 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield) writes:


>  For all of you who are arguing about O'Brians rank, please look at
>kis collar.

    That should read his collar I'm sure. And he does wear one open pip.

>0= Hollow pip
>*= Full pip

>   0= Ensign (jg)
>   *= Ensign
>  *0= Lieutenant (jg)
>  **= Lieutenant
> **0= Lieutenant Commander
> ***= Commander
>****= Captian

    Um... just where did you get this gem of information. Is there a new
version of the Officers Guide that now lists ranks below Ensign? Or have
we just extrapolated that one open pip must correspond to Ensign(jg)
because it works that way for Lt. (jg) and Lt. Commander? If so, does
anyone have any guesses as to what ***0 is? Sub-Captain, perhaps?

--
-Brian V. Hughes 
"December 1 - What begins as a friendly transitional get-together between
 the Bushes and the Clintons ends in tragedy when Millie ralphs up what
 is later identified as Socks the cat." Dave Barry 1992 Year in Review
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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:47:28 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1993Jan21.051231.25272@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) writes:
>In article <12540.406.uupcb@the-matrix.com>, scott.hollifield@the-matrix (Scott Hollifield) writes:
>>10. "Half A Life"
>>
>[discussion deleted]
>
>I wouldn't put this in my worst 10, but I have little reason to argue
>with anyone who would...
>
>The one thing I wanted to mention (that you skipped over) is the way
>they explode a star, and then react with an "oh, well, back to the
>drawing board" attitude.
>
>Maybe I'm wrong, but shouldn't causing a nova cause more... I don't
>know... Remorse?  Anguish?  A sense of something great and irreplacable
>having been lost?  Perhaps not on the same level as the extinction of
>a species, but on the other hand, they've just destroyed something that
>otherwise might easily have outlasted the Federation...
>
>I think it's a general indication of the sloppy writing that went into
>this episode that the writer(s) used this as nothing more than a secondary
>event useful only to drive the primary plot along.
>
I believe that the star was a goner within 50-100 years anyway.. that's why
they were experimenting with it, it was similar to the guy's  home star.
(Tomilson?)

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From: novanet@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Top Ten Guys from TNG/DS9
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:52:10 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Here is my top ten guys list: (10 worst, 1 best)
10) Devenani Ral
 9) Aaron from "Masterpiece Society"
 8) Worf 
 7) Okona from "The Outrageous Okona"
 6) Data
 5) Capt. Picard
 4) Wyatt Miller from "Haven"
 3) Ensign Lucky from "Man of the People"
 2) Dr. Bashir
 1) Cmdr. Riker

		And I'd also like to add that the woman that was almost
aged with that guy's emotions in "Man of the People" was an attractive, 
brainy, good role-model type woman. 
				
		Just my $0.02,
			ALF
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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Subject: Re: Clones
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:11:46 GMT
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
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Jason John Seaver (jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU) wrote:
>> dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown) writes:
>>In the recent DS9 episode "A Man Alone", or something like that,
>>Sisko and Odo allow the villian's clone to live.  Why?  What would
>>prevent this clone (or, rather, save him) from doing the same thing
>>his original did?
>
>	Well, genetics is only part of what creates a person's personality,
>there are also environmental factors.  The clone has (presumably) no memories,
>and he's living on a different Bajor than the man he was copied from.

Well, some Treknology holds that longer term memory is kept via RNA
sequences, so perhaps the clone has *some* memories, but perhaps not
enough of the ones of the past decade to make the clone dangerous.

Mark Runyan {r.a.s. random rationalizer}
From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: KILL THE KIRA FAN CLUB!
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:19:27 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

KILL THE KIRA LIST!

START THE SOPT LIST!

enough said
stimpi deep spot nine
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu 
Subject: Klingon Women
Organization: OSU Advanced Computing Center for the Arts and Design
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:10:17 GMT

I got a lot of interesting response to my question about the outfits worn
by the Duras women.  A few suggested that they "exposed themselves" that
way to use their assets to their advantage in one way or another.  Okay,
they have major cleavage.  But they still have bumpy heads and gnarly teeth
and seem like they could do some real damage to a mere human male.  Do the
men out there in the newsgroup find them, um, "desirable"?
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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Canon and Non-Canon
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 07:12:34 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

kogoma@triton.unm.edu (Taki Kogoma) writes:

> >Gene Roddenberry decided.  His list includes all episodes of TOS and TNG, 
> >all movies except the Final Frontier, and the TNG Tech Manual.
> 
> Actually, I beleive he never 'accepted' II-IV as Canon.

What leads you to believe that?

>                                                          I don't want
> to think of...um...that number between 4 and 6...

Neither do I.  Even after four years, it's still too painful.

-- 
Pat Berry - Cary, North Carolina, USA   | "Much to our dismay, the C compiler
pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                    | does not read the manuals."
**** Happy user of OS/2 2.0 ****        | Libes & Ressler, *Life with UNIX*
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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: COULD KIRA BE ANY HOTTER?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:33:39 GMT

<DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>In article <27JAN199310192397@csa2.lbl.gov>, sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I
>CHASE) says:
>>
>>In article <93027.032202DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>, <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
>>writes...
>>>
>>>       And here's the flame I got by mail!
>>
>>The only thing worse than mailing someone that kind of nonsense is for
>>the receiver to turn around and post it to thousands of other people.
>>Can't you restrain yourself enough to respect the fact that E-mail is
>>not supposed to be posted without consent?  Or are you as much of a dong
>>as the guy who sent you the mail in the first place?

>  Survey says :

>  AAAAAAAAAAAAA! ( WRONG! )

Shows how reliable those surveys are. ;)

>  Who ever said that email notes had to be kept
>  tidy little secrets?

How long have you been on the net?  Did you ever bother to read the
new user information?  Posting private email, no matter how
inflammatory, is strictly against netiquette.

>  I think if people send that kind of stuff, they
>  should be prepared for other people to see it
>  besides the recipient.

Certainly.  There's always some nut who will post it. ;)
-- 
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