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From: hjiwa@gruc03.nor.chevron.com (Jeff Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Mountain Bike Advice
Keywords: mountain
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:24:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron

Hi there,

I am a newbie to both this newsgroup and moutain biking (so please don't flame
me for sounding ignorant), but can anybody provide advice for the following two
questions?  Any insight would be greatly appreciated...thanx

1) I would like to hear comments from riders' experiences with mountain bikes in
   the $400-$600 price range.  I have gone to a couple of bike shops and looked
   at Specialized, Trek, and Kona's.  Came home with loads of pamphlets, earfuls
   of talk about geometry, frame construction, etc... and spend a few hours
   riding around a few of the bikes.  But I would still like to gather up more
   info before making the final splurge.  Opinions and advice, anyone???
2) Would appreciate advice on places I can go take my bike (once it's bought)
   that are close enough to New Orleans for a weekend outing.  By this, I mean
   possibly out west to Texas (central Texas, Austin area, seems nice) and out
   east to Alabama/Florida panhandle.  Suggestions on either mountain biking
   locations or cycling clubs in the area that could provide further information
   would help greatly.

Thanks in advance...

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From: shankar@src.honeywell.com (Subash Shankar)
Subject: Rear Mounted Carriers
Keywords: Eclipse Talon Laser Carrier
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:44:13 GMT


I am looking for a rear mounted bicycle carrier for my Mitsubishi Eclipse (same
as Plymouth Laser, Eagle Talon).  Most carriers don't fit the car properly
since it is neither a sedan nor a hatchback exactly.  Has anybody found a
carrier which works?  The local bicycle shop claim that none is made.
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From: apuzzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Tony Apuzzo)
Subject: Re: Dream Bike #2: S-works steel
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:37:30 GMT

In article <5812@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> broadley@lrdc5 (Bill Broadley) writes:
>Got a new Dream bike, the last post seemed to create some interesting
>discussions.  Most importantly that there are some reports of problems
>with the MB-0 frames being to weak especially in the down tube.
...
>Mostly Suntour Xc-Pro (micro-drive) with a Specialized Ti seat, Ti pedals, 
>Ti headset (rollers instead of bearing for the bottom races).  Specialized 
>stem, seatpost, AL handlebars, kevlar tires.  14/15 spokes w/ alloy nipples.

Umm, my Steel has thinwall chromoly bars, steel headset,
light-but-steel pedals everything else matches your description.

>
>Grease-gaurd hubs, and BB.  Bike reported weighs in about 24.5 lb's which is
>the same I heard for the MB-0.  Hopefully the Microdrive saves weight that
>specialized invested in a more durable frame.

My bike shop greases everything for free whenever I go in... they think
GG is fantastic.

>
>Specialized has a good reputation and is big enough to really spend money on
>research and custom parts.
...
>Broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu

I bought an S-Works Steel about 2 months ago for $1299 (which was
discounted from $1650 according to Bicycle Guide)  I have had few
problems with it.  I weigh 205lbs and beat my bike regularly (4-10
hours single-track and ~30 miles on road every week)  I'll tell you how
well it holds up long term when I get there.  The 11-24 cassette is a
bit too tall for my tastes, i'd prefer a 12-28.  The rims are still
true (Wheelsmith spokes ya know.)

Likes:

Very stable in decents, but climbs well, I can really hammer now!

Microdrive shifts well most of the time, it doesn't like big-front
big-rear shifts at all (never use those 3-4 gears anyway of course)

Comfortable for long rides, smoothest nonsuspended bike I've ridden

Doesn't "Look" like an expensive bike, no dayglo or gigantic tubes :-)


Dislikes:

The front 987 canti's squeal like a pig, Aztec pads and sandpaper on the
rims have helped.

The seatpost bent (replaced under warranty)

The rear XC-Pro QR skewer broke, wasn't warrantied so I got Ringle's

Ripped the front Kevlar Bead Ground Control out of the rim in a crash.
(but didn't bend the rim!)

The front fork dances and shudders when under hard braking.

Presta valves are bad news, IMHO they are too fragile.  The Airlock
tubes in mine can't be inflated with anything but a Silca.


Just my $0.02

-Tony
From: jessup@dot.cs.colorado.edu (Elizabeth Jessup)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Wanted:  Bridgestone Radac
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:55:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


If you know where I can find a 51cm Bridgestone Radac (the aluminum
framed road bike), please let me know.  The west coast distributor told
me the only hope was to find a stray one at a bike store somewhere.  I'd 
prefer a new or barely used one as I already have an old worn out road bike.   

Thanks,
Liz Jessup
jessup@cs.colorado.edu
From: taylorw@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Wanted: NordicTrack for X-Training
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:48:38 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Would like to purchase  a used NordicTrack Ski Simulator for cross-training
this winter.

Thankyou for your time,

Wes Taylor

"Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty."

wes taylor - waterloo, iowa - taylorw@iscsvax.uni.edu
From: vinson@shiva.seas.upenn.edu (Jack Vinson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Opinions-Performance Durango MTB Shoes
Keywords: Shoes, MTB, Performance
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:39:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Pennsylvania

<2AAA9462.11066@news.service.uci.edu> writes this in article iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias)
>The Performance catalog says that the Durango is SPD compatible.

They are!

>I am also interested in reviews of the Durango.  My Avocet 20s are getting
>beat up.

I ride the durango's ($50 from Performance) and have been very happy with
them.  The soles are stiff and even without SPD's grip my pedals very well.
In the not-so-distant future I plan on converting and will report back if I
remember.  One of our Thursday racers rides them with SPD and seems to be
happy.  They even grip nicely without clips, as I've ridden my regular-pedeal 
commuter bike with them.
Jack Vinson			vinson@shiva.seas.upenn.edu     
When the justice system is for "just us" we are in trouble!
From: deb1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DERRICK ERNEST BOUCHER)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Cateye Halogen Headlamp and NiCads?
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:06:52 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hello all,

        I'd like to increase the versatility and especially the thrift
of the Cateye HL500 Halogen Headlamp by using rechargeable NiCad "C"
cells in place of standard C cells.  As I alredy own two HL500's, this
would be a very inexpensive was to upgrade to a rechargeable system.

 If anyone has tried this combination, please let me know via E-mail
or posting.

                                                Thanks,
                                                        Derrick

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From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Subject: Re: Brake pad advice sought	
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:22:19 GMT

>In article <1992Sep08.192210.14329@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, paynter@bnr.ca
>(Stuart Paynter) writes: 
>|> Keywords: 
>|> 
>|> I am looking for advice on a braking problem, specifically 
>|> replacement brake pads.  My girlfriend recently "inherited"
>|> my Marin Bear Valley (mtb) when I upgraded to a Rocky Mountain.
>|> It is equipped with Shimano 400LX equipment with "4-finger" 
>|> brake levers. ...

In article <1992Sep8.222734.26502@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
goell@nomad.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeremy Goell) writes: 

>It seems difficult to believe that the rear pad/brake can be blamed
>for poor stopping performance going DOWNHILL.  So much of the rider's
>stopping power, particularly downhill, is generated by the front
>brake, that the rear is kinda irrelevant in this situation, assuming
>Stuart's g-friend is actually using both brakes to stop.  Dynamically
>speaking, it's doubtful that she can even move her center of mass
>backward far enough to prevent the rear wheel from locking up, ...

I agree that the brake pads are an unlikely suspect.  So much of the
rider's stopping power begins in the riders hands.  Dynamically
speaking, Stuart's friend is riding a hand-me-down bike that may or
may not fit her.  One **very** likely culprit is the 4-finger brake
levers.  They may be too difficult for her to grasp with sufficient
power to stop any bike, and she may be horsing a bike that is too big.
It's doubtful she can move her center of mass anywhere it belongs on
the bike under those conditions. 

>... the front is still where ya gotta be concerned.  Try
>swapping pads, front and rear, and testing things out on a downhill.


Kool Stops are generally good products.  Try correctly sizing the
bike.  If the bike doesn't fit, explore the possibility of getting one
that does.  If the bike does fit, or she gets one in her size, make
sure the brake levers are easily exercised with small hands.  That is,
after all, where all bicylce braking starts, front or rear, road or
ATB, etc.


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sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
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From: cdg@sei.cmu.edu (Craig Gary)
Subject: Italian Road Bike
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:06:07 GMT



	Torpado Super Strada - 59cm
		Columbus Aelle frame - Hand made in Padova, Italy
		pearl off-white frame / chrome fork
		Campagnolo Nuovo Record F/R derailleurs & seatpost
		Ofmega crankset
		3ttt bars and stem
		ambrosio elite rims w/ michelin tires
		pantographed frame, fork, stem and chainring
		Royal Gran Compe aero brakes
		Suede Selle Italia Turbo saddle
		Campagnolo Aero water bottle
		like new...less than 200 miles
		$450

		please respond email to cdg@sei.cmu.edu
		or call 412-486-9056 after 6 p.m.

		---------------------------------------------------------
		Craig Dain Gary
		Software Engineering Institute/Carnegie Mellon University
		Pittsburgh, PA
		

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From: pwinkler@netcom.com (Paul Winkler)
Subject: Altimeter/Computer Recommendations Sought
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:40:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: computer, altimeter

I am looking to buy my first cycling computer.  I'd like one 
with an altimeter and cadence.  The options that I have seen 
so far are the Avocet 50 and the Ciclomaster IIA and Ciclomaster ALTI.

Recent threads here on the net have discussed the accuracy or 
lack thereof, of the 50 and also the Casio altimeter watch.  The 
Ciclomaster's don't seem to be talked about that much, (perhaps 
because of their higher cost (~US$125 with altitude and cadence)?).  They 
seem to be good units: waterproof, German engineering, on the ALTI 
an inclinometer, and expandable with pulse meter.  Its also carried in
a shop I trust.

Anyone out there have any comments on the Ciclomaster computers, 
or better, any direct data on them or comparisons to the Avocet 50? (the
shop doesn't like the 50s, said he got too many of them back.)

Post, or email and I'll summarize.

Thanks,
Paul
pwinkler@netcom.com

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pwinkler@netcom.com
From: efrank@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Ed Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Pogliaghi and Suntour GPX
Summary: comments wanted
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:27:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


  A local shop is offering me a new Pogliaghi SL frame with Suntour
GPX components for $800.  The wheels will be built with either
Campagnola Ypsilon or Matrix aero clinchers.  

  I am not familiar with the GPX components and I do not have other 
shops to compare prices against for the frame or components.  

Questions:
   1)	Is this a fair price?
   2)   Will I be able to find parts for the GPX components, especially
	cassettes?  I won't be able to ride the bike with the GPX
	components on it until I buy it:  It is currently built up with
	shimano ultegra and he is swapping in the GPX to meet my budget.
	Comments about the quality of the componts compared to shimano
	are welcome. Hah! I won't have to buy into the shimano tool 
	game!

Comments about the setup are welcome.  I took a very short ride (20
minutes) and the bike felt very comfortable.  I'm hoping the shop
owner will let me put on my wheels and go for a 40 mile ride to see if
it will be comfortable for the centuries rides I want to do.  

(It was nice to find a frame that wasn't squirrelly and that had some
clearance under the brake trusses.  Are there other frames I should look
into?)

Ed Frank
efrank@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Wanted: Cat Eye Micro, Computer Only
From: abercrombie@mdcbbs.com (Phil Abercrombie)
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:54:56 PDT
Reply-To: abercrombie@mdcbbs.com
Organization: M&E (Division of EDS), Cypress CA


Due to an unfortunate accident with a beach (I dropped the computer in
some sand and never found it again), I seem to have a spare Cat Eye
Micro mounting kit on my hands. Since I also have a bike which is
lacking a computer, I am looking for someone to sell me just the
computer bit of a Cateye Micro (e.g. you trashed the sensors or broke
the wires). Nashbar sells the computer+mounting kit for $28.45 (a
bargain, btw), and just the mounting kit for $20.25, so I'm offering
$15 for the computer on its own.

Any Offers?




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From: warton@ssd.intel.com (Peter Warton)
Subject: Gary Fisher MTBs
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Distribution: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:27:23 GMT


I recently bought a Gary Fisher MTB.  I have not seen any net traffic
on these bikes.  What is the general consensus?  I personally find my
Hoo Koo E Koo (the name of a trail on Mt. Tamalpias, Marin Co. CA) to 
be very solid and very responsive.  Opinions anyone?

Peter Warton

________________________________________________________________________
warton@ssd.intel.com
I speak for myself! (against my better judgement).
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From: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Subject: Was: Brake pad advice sought.
Reply-To: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:29:43 GMT

Thanks to all who responded.  Not to flame anyone but here are 
some of the results:

Local bike store owner and 9th ranked MTB rider in Canada says:

  1) Eagle Claws *aren't* all that good
  2) Scott Matthauser are one of the best to use (last and grip)
     even though they are cheesy looking.
  3) OEM Shimano pads are good pads.

 BTW, he uses Shimano XTR, on the front and Matthauser on the back.


Others on net
  4) say that Aztecs and Eagles are both good pads (!?) ;>
  5) say g-friend's ability  --- she's a very capable rider
  6) say bike sizing (for hand-me-down bike) --- she's the same 
                                                 as me
  7) say front brakes are more important --- yes but do not under-
                                             estimate the stopping
                                             force of the rear
  8) say stopping on downhill --- I like to be able to come to full 
                                  safe stop up,/downhill flats etc
  9) say clean the rims --- good point well taken


The final results are that the Eagle Claws are history and new
Deore XT pads are on the back. The bike stops on a dime.  Maybe
the others were just just a poor batch ??

Cheers...Stuart :)  
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From: dchoi@physics.Berkeley.EDU (David Choi)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,ucb.wanted,ca.wanted
Subject: Re: FOR SALE:  Bicycle Parts & Accessories
Keywords: Revision
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:04:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

Vetta ATB GEL saddle has been sold.

And I forgot to mention this, but for those items that require shipping, I would like to handle it UPS COD, with the buyer paying
for shipping.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.tech
From: joeh@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Heanue)
Subject: Road Bike for Sale
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:18:13 GMT


       Austro-Damler (An Austrian Company)  Road Bike for Sale

          * 63cm
          * Reynolds 531 Frame
          * Campagnalo Nuovo Record Components
	  * Look Pedals

This bike is about 7 years old, but has been used
very little. 

I'm asking $330, but I'm flexible. I'd also consider
trading for a mountain bike.

          Call Joe @ (510) 527-4161 or 
	  send e-mail to joeh@cory.berkeley.edu


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From: cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts)
Subject: Bianci touring bike
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 14:12:59 GMT

I recently had the pleasure of riding a Bianci touring bike.  I am
considering buying one new or used.  Could someone please tell 
me the current status of the Bianci bike and opinions.  I know 
the Japanese bikes have been big in the shops of late and I find
most of the Italian manufacturers only sell frames.  

My price range is low in comparison to most bikes these days..


All inputs are appreciated.

CR
From: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Trek 1000 Bike for Sale
Date: 7 Sep 1992 19:59:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhiannon.sitka.sun.com



I have a two year Trek 1000 that has less than 200 miles on it up for sale.
I don't know what the cm is of this bike but I am 5'5" and it fits me
perfectly.  The bike is in excellent condition.  It also comes with
Look pedals and womans size 6.5 Diadora shoes (worn twice).  I am asking 
$300 firm. 

I live in Oakland.  

My home phone is 510 832-0376
My work phone is 501 769-2470
From: ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Nightsun
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:47:40 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Sep5.202913.11935@beaver.cs.washington.edu> pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel) writes:
>> piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch) writes:
>>[I've had to do wiring on my Night Sun.]
>
>I've had the same experience, with about a year of riding, including
>nighttime offroad riding.
>
>choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.) writes:
>>What is a good light without the external wiring (don't read this the
>>wrong way)?
>
>VeloLux.  801 Northport Dr. Unit #1, West Sacramento, CA  95691,
>800-552-1523.

Though I agree with Don's opinion of VeloLux, I'm sad to report that they've
been out of business since sometime last winter/spring.  Sad because I like
to see small, innovative, customer-oriented companies succeed -- but more so
because this is yet another case where a skillfully-marketed product has
prevailed over a skillfully-engineered one.  (Can you guess what I do for a
living?)

Anyway, Fred Chapman (former owner of VeloLux) is rumored to be still providing
spare parts and service for the lights that are out there -- so if you are
lucky enough to own one of his great lights you can look forward to its
outlasting several NightSuns even if something does go wrong.
-- 
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From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: Scothlite(tm) Question
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:17:11 GMT

Reflective material may be found in sewing or outdoor shops...

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From: broadley@lrdc5 (Bill Broadley)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles
Subject: FORSALE: Fisher 20" MTB
Summary: Serious MTB forsale
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:59:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

For sale: Black 20" 1990 Fisher Montare MTB.

Frame:
    20" Black, standard non-elevated frame. true temper quad butted tig welded.
    Oversize Headset, stem, and fork. All 1.25 inch. (i.e. less flex up front)
    Oversize Sealed bottom bracket, seattube, and seatpost.  Seattube ovalized 
    near BB to decrease flex.  

Drivetrain: Xc-Pro Crank (24-36-46) on a sealed BB.  12-28 on Xc-pro grease
    gaurd hubs.  Xc-pro Above bar shifters and deraileurs.  Sedisport ATB chain.

Brakes:  Xc-pro brake levers, and one xc-pro cantilever, and one 986

Wheels:
    Suntour Xc-pro 32 hole grease gaurd hubs,presta RM-17 rims, 
    Ground control tires, presta tubes.

Brooks leather saddle, oversize seatpost, with locking quick release.

Extras: 
    2 water bottles/cage, frame mounted blackburn minipump 
    (Aluminum, double action, actually works), C-10 computer.	

I want $800 but will entertain all offers/trades and suggestions on price.  
(i.e. 4MB sims, Glock, 486 motherboard, tandem etc.)  Will ship and send photo
to serious inquiries.  Email prefered or call (412) 361-1445

--
Broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
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From: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer)
Subject: DA vs. Ultegra
Reply-To: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: University of Tokyo, tcejorP Project.
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:21:01 GMT


What's the real difference?  Is there a difference?  (excluding price)
I'm talking performance, repairability, adjustment, durability and
*feel* especially in braking and gearing.  

How are they for interchanging parts?  What if I slap my DA
hub/cassettes in with my Ultegra derailleur and STI levers?  Sure it
will work but will it perform well?

I've never used either of the current lines and am considering buying.

Thanks.
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