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From: tim@kudzu.viewlogic.com (Tim Foster)
Subject: Re: IN MEMORIAM: Johnny Most
Originator: tim@kudzu
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:47:03 GMT


In article <1993Jan4.014552.17557@athena.mit.edu>, mittman1@athena.mit.edu (Christopher T Chiu) writes:
|> Johnny Most, the legendary announcer and Voice of the 
|> Boston Celtics, suffered a heart attack this morning(Jan.3)
|> and was pronounced dead this afternoon.  The man
|> who saw the Celtics through more than three decades
|> is now gone.
|> 
|> A public service message from a curious student of basketball,
|> Genghis
|> mittman1@athena.mit.edu
|> 
|> ------------------------------------------------------
|> BOSTON CELTICS
|> 16 NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yep, and Johnny called every one of them!

Quite a legend...
-- 

Tim Foster 
E-mail: tfoster@viewlogic.com 
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From: rsykes@AFIT.AF.MIL
Subject: REQUEST: NBA team logos in any format
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:14:20 GMT

Would like pictures of team logos, or an ftp site that has them on it, 
THANKS!!

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  /____\   -Space Mountain, it's a 60 min ride that last all night long !!!! 
 /      \  -WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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From: tim@kudzu.viewlogic.com (Tim Foster)
Subject: Re: Bulls without His Airness
Originator: tim@kudzu
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:59:55 GMT


In article <1993Jan7.184647.1532@micom.com>, jscott@micom.com (James Scott) writes:
|> >>> you think the bulls just won two in a row because of jordan
|> >>> and only jordan, don't you?  

<stuff deleted>

|> > And most consider Grant highly underrated.  One of the best offense
|> > rebounders in the league ...  
|> 
|> i find it interesting that grant is highly rated in O boards, but not in
|> Total boards.  perhaps an overabundance of balls bouncing around on the
|> bulls offensive end? ;-)

My theory for this is that the defensive player assigned to 
Grant spends alot of time helping out on drives by Jordan and
Pippen.  Therefore, when they miss, he is in very good position
to pick up the rebound.  

|> james
|> 
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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Subject: Re: Scores of 14Dec-21Dec, Standings, Schedule for next 2 weeks
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 21:31:25 GMT

In article <sikorski-060193142551@drdoom.rsmas.miami.edu> sikorski@oj.miami.edu (Richard Sikorski) writes:
>
>---------------------------------------------
>| TU  1/5  | WE  1/6  | TH  1/7  | FR  1/8  |
>---------------------------------------------
>| Was-Atl  | Ind-Bos  | Pho-Dal  |  NJ-Bos  |
>| Bos-Cha  | Chi-Cle G| Mia-GS   | LAC-Cha  |
>| LAL-Chi T| LAC-Det  | Por-Hou  | Mil-Chi  |
>| Por-Dal  | LAL-Min  | Atl-Mil B| Hou-Den  |
>| Pho-Hou  |  NJ-Phi  | Uta-SA   | Atl-Det  |
>| LAC-Ind  |          |          | Sac-LAL  |
>| Det-Mia  |          |          | Sea-Min  |
>| Min-Mil  |          |          |  NY-Orl T|
>| Cle-NY   |          |          | Phi-Was  |
>|  NJ-Orl  |          |          |          |
>| Den-Sac  |          |          |          |
>|  GS-Sea  |          |          |          |
>|  SA-Uta  |          |          |          |
>---------------------------------------------

tuesday the 5th of January may have set a record and can
do no worse than have tied the record.

only Philadelphia had the day off, the other 26 teams
were all busy...wow.

- nate
From: delano@acsu.buffalo.edu (Harry DeLano)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: LA team schedules 1/28-1/31?
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:54:14 GMT
Organization: UB


I am planning on being in LA from 1/28 thourgh 1/31 or so.  Do either
the Clippers or the Lakers have any home games during this period?
Are tickets typically available?

Please send e-mail to: delano@cs.buffalo.edu

Harry DeLano

PS: Clippers preferred :)
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From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: BOXSCORE ind32orl28.10jan93
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:19:11 GMT


ind 104, orl 88   10jan93

MISSING officials

dnp orl: kite,greg(cd)
flagrant fouls: miller,reggie(2:31 4th)
                scott,dennis(3:54 1st)

ind (15-17)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
schrempf,detlef   31   7  16   0  0   0  0   2  7   6  5  1  4  0  0  0  0   14
davis,dale        42   7  15   0  0   1  4   5 19   1  3  0  1  2  0  0  0   15
smits,rik         20   2   6   0  0   1  2   0  2   3  5  0  0  2  0  0  0    5
miller,reggie     37   6  14   1  3   3  3   1  4   4  2  2  4  0  0  0  1   16
richardson,pooh   22   3   6   0  0   3  4   2  6   6  0  2  2  0  0  0  0    9
williams,kenny    19   5  13   0  0   2  4   7  8   1  4  1  0  2  0  0  0   12
fleming,vern      25   5   9   0  1   2  3   1  6   3  2  3  3  1  0  0  0   12
mccloud,george     2   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
mitchell,sam      30   5  12   0  0   5  6   1  3   0  4  2  0  0  0  0  0   15
thompson,lasalle   1   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
sealy,malik       11   3   9   0  1   0  2   3  4   0  3  1  0  1  0  0  0    6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ind totals       240  43 100   1  5  17 28  22 59  24 28 12 14  8  0  0  1  104
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .430   .200   .607       team rebs 11, team TO's 1

orl (14-14)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
scott,dennis      32   3  13   0  3   0  2   4  7   3  4  0  1  2  0  0  1    6
turner,jeff       21   0   4   0  0   2  2   3  6   1  3  1  1  0  0  0  0    2
o'neal,shaquille  44  11  20   0  0   8 13   5 20   0  3  0  2  8  0  0  0   30
anderson,nick     35   5  15   0  3   2  2   0  4   1  3  3  5  0  0  0  0   12
skiles,scott      32   7  13   0  2   3  6   0  1   4  5  3  1  0  0  0  0   17
catledge,terry    21   1   4   0  0   4  4   1  2   0  2  0  2  0  0  0  0    6
royal,donald      23   3   7   0  0   2  4   3  7   0  1  0  2  0  0  0  0    8
green,litterial   13   0   2   0  0   5  6   0  0   2  1  2  2  0  0  0  0    5
bowie,anthony      5   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  1  0  1  0  0  0  0    0
tolbert,tom        4   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  1  0  0  1  0  0  0    0
kerr,steve        10   1   5   0  1   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  1  0  0  0  0    2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
orl totals       240  31  83   0  9  26 39  16 47  11 24  9 18 11  0  0  1   88
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .373   .000   .667       team rebs 16

ind   34  29  21  20  -  104
orl   21  22  24  21  -   88

attendance 15151, time 2:07, officials: ??,??,??
From: gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Gilford T. Hapanyengwi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Tonight' scores
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:59:51 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: Vanderbilt University CS Dept.


Could someone email me or post tonight's NBA scores.  I am stuck in a
lab for a good part of the night.

Ndiyoyo,
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From: koehnema@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: *All Star Game 1993*
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:47:03 GMT
Reply-To: koehnema@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann)
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: Arizona State University

In article <1ifs4vINNrcv@news.aero.org> robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger) writes:
>In article <1ifpn3INNpij@shelley.u.washington.edu> tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx) writes:
>>
>>		west: karl malone, charles barkeley, chris mullen,
>>		      tim hardaway, john stockton, clyde drexler,
>>		      david robinson, hakeem olajuwan, james worthy(?),
>>		      gary payton(?),

>Instead of Worthy & Payton, could we have Sedale Threatt & Danny Manning?

No, I think Payton will (and should) get the nod.  Kemp, Elliot will
also make it.  Upset AS Pick of the year - Majerle over Drexler.
You heard it here first.
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Harry Koehnemann
enuxha.eas.asu.edu
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From: hillyard@msc.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: Paxson sucks (was Re: Phoenix is absol
Originator: hillyard@tiger.msc.cornell.edu
Reply-To: hillyard@msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:19:29 GMT

From article <C0Cz23.8JG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois):
> hillyard@msc.cornell.edu writes:
> 
[...]
> 
>>Last time this came up I posted a comparison of Paxsons stats with the Bulls
>>(w Jordan) and I think it was San Antonio (wo Jordan).  They are the same.
>>Paxsons stats are not inflated because of playing next to Jordan.
> 
> How many games do you have to go on?  You cant really compare results of
> two games for a player and extraploate that into an entire season w.o
> Jordan.
> 
> -Dan

Sorry, not clear.  Paxson used to be a Spur (?).  I compared his
last season there with his stats as a Bull.  Practically identical.

SEH
From: n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Slam Dunk Contestants
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:09:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan11.190930.18347
Organization: Western Washington University

siwasaki@unix1.tcd.ie (simon iwasaki) writes:

>Anyone know of this years slam-dunk championship contestants?

>My pick would be:Brown, L.Johnson, Ceballos, Kemp, O'Neal(!!), Augmon,
>                 Dumas(!),B.Edwards.

>Any suggestions??

Derick McKey has some fantastic jams. I'd kinda like to see him take Kemp's
place this year. Not that Kemp isn't an awesome slammer, he just does much
better in games than he does in the competition. I'd also like to see
Scottie Pippen there.

>Also where's Craig Hodges??
>Can someone complete in 3-pt competition if they are not on an NBA
>roster,even if they are the current champion??

I hope not. I don't know what happened to Hodges, though. Look for Starks or
Barros to compete and probably win here. Dana hasn't been doing quite as
well in treys as he did last year, but he's still deadly from outside.

-Brian Harper
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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Re: Sonics end of year report
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:31:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.210824.18159@tc.fluke.COM> mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel) writes:
>In <1992Dec31.210124.26732@microsoft.com> paulg@microsoft.com (Paul Goode) writes:
>
>>  [Cage praised here]
>
> [McMillan praised here]
>
> [Payton praised here]
>


Also, in last night's game, I really loved the fact that Karl gave Askew
minutes.  They were definitely well-deserved.  Askew was a FANTASTIC pick-up
for the sonics.  He reminds me a lot of Cliff Levingston.  Really good
utility player.  He has a decent shot (around 47%) and is a great hustler.
Lastt night in the Warriors/Sonics game, Askew got some really key rebounds,
both offensive and defensive during gut-check time.  

I am also amazed how awesome he did on tthe Portland/Denver/Phoenix road
trip (I think those are the right teams) where they didn't have any big
men.  Karl had Askew guarding against centers in the post and he did a
pretty good job.

Another thing to note (using Doug Steele's stats... thanks for the awesome
job doug!) is that no sonics are getting over 35 minutes of playing time.
Karl really does a great job rotating men in to keep inttensity up.  I mean,
the leading scorer on the team is Kemp with 18.7 pts/game.  Karl is realy
spreading the PT around (although I really would like to see Paddio and
Schef play more, but you can't get all 12 guys into the game.  10 is
difficult enough)


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From: cs163wav@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: goal tending a free throw
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:31:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <8521@news.duke.edu> fls@econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith) writes:
>	Why would somebody do this?  Suppose a team is up by two with a few
>seconds left, and the shooter attempts to intentionally miss the shot, say by shooting *real* high and hoping the ball bounces off the rim.  The defensive team,
>ahead by 2 points, might jump in and goal tend to make sure only one point is
>scored.

The only likely scenario in which I can see it occuring would be by
accident.  A player enters the lane and jumps to the basket, where
the ball is bouncing around on the rim.  The player thinks it's
falling out, but in the officials' opinion it's still in the
cylinder with a chance to go in.  The player grabs it, thinking of
his own action as a rebound, not a block.

>	What about dunking a free throw?  Can the shooter cross the line before
>his release but not touch the floor?  How about if somebody had *really* long arms :) and could reach the basket from the free throw line.

I've heard that Wilt was able to dunk free thows by leaping from the
free throw line, but the rules did (and do) not permit it.  (I think
the rule actually prohibits the toes from crossing the plane of the
free throw line, or something like that.  Awfully NFL-esque, but
necessary.)

Tony
From: dougs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Steele)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:34:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Team Standings and Stats
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
From: niceswangern@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Past NBA Protests (Was: Re: Suns File...)
Date: 10 Jan 93 13:36:26 CST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <edm.726539927@wrs.com>, edm@wrs.com (Ed McClannahan) writes:
> Has anybody mentioned the Laker game some EIGHT (8) years ago when Magic
> intentionally missed a free throw with little time on the clock and the
> Lakers down (by ONE, I think).  As I recall, Magic followed the ball into
> the lane and was there for an easy rebound and follow-up 2-pointer.  I may

Wasn't that Norm Nixon?  Maybe not - I'm not 100% sure.

				Natey N.
				Somers, Iowa

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From: oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III)
Subject: Re: Sonics' draft picks
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1993Jan10.180601.19497@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
	<1993Jan10.205657.5461@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:34:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.205657.5461@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper) wrote:
> I realise that, which is why I said I'd love to see them make a deal for one
> of these guys.

Well, in the tradition of all great r.s.bb.pro threads of this sort, you're
supposed to present a trade proposal.  A typical one would be Dallas
first-round pick for the rights to Slick Watts and Spencer Haywood.

Hey, I've seen worse ones suggested.
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From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: NBA League Salary Cap
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 04:31:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan13.033803.1024@ncsu.edu>, edfields@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIK DOUGLAS FIELDS) writes:
|> What is the NBA salary cap?
|> 

$14,000,000.
From: n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Suns file protest in San Antonio loss
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:57:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan9.005749.4175
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Washington University

Anybody have any idea when the ruling will be, and if the protest is upheld,
what the likely result will be? It doesn't seem right to give the win to
Phoenix, but would they really set up the score and time as it was when the
T wasn't called and start there with Phoenix shooting the free throw?
Anybody know who would get the ball after the FT? Either way the game could
still be won or tied by either team. I kinda doubt it will come to that,
though. The league usually supports the refs, and it's not likely that
Phoenix will have a whole lot of sympathy from anyone other than its fans. I
like the way they play, but I get tired of Barkley's constant whining about
the refs, especially when he's one of the privileged stars who get away with
a little more than the average Joe.

-Brian Harper
n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu
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From: jerry@MicroUnity.com (Jerry Kreuscher)
Subject: Re: I BEE-LEEVE!  Nellie is a JEE-NYOUS!
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc.
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:28:30

It was heart-breaking to see Larry Smith's expression each time he
went to the line.  What I don't understand about it is that last night
in Seattle, Mullin did the same thing to a Sonic.  But last night
Mullin was called for a "foul away for the ball", which gave the
Sonics two free throws and possesion.  Why didn't the Spurs get that
call?

In any case, I'm glad you've finally found the Nellie Faith.  Next
thing, you'll be talking up the Celtics.
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: *All Star Game 1993*
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:11:15 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1ifpn3INNpij@shelley.u.washington.edu> tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx) writes:
>		east: michael jordan, patrick ewing, scottie pippen,
>		      shaq o'neal, mark price, reggie miller, 
>		      joe dumar, isiah thomas, reggie lewis, 
>		      kevin mchale(?), larry johnson(?),		      
>
    Well, substitute Blue Edwards for Isiah and I suppose I could go
    for it.

    --salty


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From: rahjr@mower.bae.bellcore.com (Ralph Howard)
Subject: Re: Petro
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 16:34:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.144238.11494@mips2.ma30.bull.com>, hout@eastham.ma30.bull.com (dave hout) writes:
|> Hi,
|> 	Could anyone out there tell me what happened to Drazen Petrovic?
|> I just heard he isn't playing tonite against the Celtics.  Is he on or going on the
|> IR?  Thanks.
|> 
|> Dave


Drazen came down on Charles Shackleford's foot during the game against the 
76er's on Wednesday.  I think he either sprained his ankle or knee. He is expected to miss at least the next two games.

	- ralph h.

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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Personal to Jazzy:
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:40:17 GMT


Apologies for waste of bandwidth:


Jed:  my mail to you keeps bouncing.  please email me when you get back..
I picked something up for you during break that I know you'd be interested in 
getting... is your mailing address the same?


Thanks.
Ben

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From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Illegal Defense
Date: 11 Jan 1993 03:23:11 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: salmon.zoo2.cs.yale.edu

Sorry it this seems a trivial question for this group.

How is "Illegal Defense" defined in NBA [and other matches].

Dicky.

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From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois)
Subject: Re: Paxson sucks (was Re: Phoenix is absolutely scary...)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:12:06 GMT

data@leland.Stanford.EDU (Amit Nandan Aggarwal) writes:

>Um, I believe he was talking about KARL Malone.  (Where is Moses right now, by the way?)


Smiley face impaired, are we?

-Dan
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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Re: Doug Christie
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:03:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.004318.18601@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper) writes:
>cb338@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael A. Woo-Ming) writes:
>
>
>Yes, basically they have. Christie said he was going back to school this
>semester and re-entering the draft. I still haven't figured out why the
>Sonics don't trade him, or why they drafted him in the first place, when
>they need another big-man so badly. Expect to see Christie in the 93 draft,
>and expect to see him go as a higher pick in this year's crop. 
>

I'm not so sure about this.  The sonics have unttil the next draft to do 
something with him ( i believe that the next draft is June 3?)

anyway, since ther eis no compensation, Seattle will probably sign or trade
him somettime during the year.  It is a long way until the nhext draft folks.

Excpet the same with Dallas.

ALTHOUGH, it wouldn't be a total shock if Seattle did nothing with Christie.  
they have excellent team chemistry and probably would have to be very choosy
about who/what they would get for Christie.  It's justt hard I think for any
team to waste a pick and receive nothing of any sort of compensation in return
for their pick.

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From: davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu (Stimpson J. Cat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: INSIDE SPORTS poll: best players by position
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:09:26 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
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In article <1993Jan08.153221.57724@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>

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>
>didn't make the list.  If it were "media attention/hype" based, you WOULD
>have seen Payton, Strickland, and Dee Brown on the list...  


	I can't say Gary Payton gets much media attention/hype at all. Maybe
WALTER Payton... but if Gary Payton gets any publicity at all, it's negative
publicity from writers calling him a bust or saying he has to become better
for the Sonics to advance, Payton can't shoot etc. I honestly can't see
where someone could think Payton is being hyped - I would daresay many
casual fans don't even know who Gary Payton is.


>Well, I think if it were of the "visible" sort, you would see more of the
>players you talk about.  Pooh Richardson, playing for Minnesota/Indiana is
>not exactly a household player.  Nor is Jackson/Smith, at least not as much
>as Payton, Strickland, and Dee Brown.   Dan Majerle is similar.  As a big name
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	See above.


>player who either won or was close to winning the 6th man award, he was a 
>pretty big name who just got beat out by the NBA's strongest (argueably)
>position, shooting guard...
>-- 
>David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye





				David L. Yee
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