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From: EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Reality Gem.
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:10:02 GMT
Organization: The Pennylvania State University

In article <Bs2E0p.Kq3@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Victor
VonDoom) says:
>
>I can think of who is big enough that most Marvel readers would
>recognize him is the Beyonder/Molecule Man team. They haven't been

Do we really want him back that bad?  I dont care if it is him, but I
thought he was in the beyonders' dimension as some sort of Cosmic Cube
come to life (Kubic?).  As long as they find someone to write him right...

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From: genef@netcom.com (Eugene Fornario)
Subject: Re: Transmogrification.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 04:05:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Jul15.140758.5217@hubcap.clemson.edu> hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor) writes:
>Am I the only one who has been laboring under the false impresssion
>that Watterson invented transmogrification?
>
>-Mike

Heh heh...I came across that word 'transmogrification' in 'Cutey Bunny #5',
in the Xmen parody of Josh Quagmire's funny animal comicbook.  that was
in Dec 1985.  I never bothered to lookup the word, because it's so long
I would forget it by the time I got to a dictionary :^)

Gene--
From: barry@clark.edu (Barry Lieberman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: No more Terminator @ DH (- going to Marvel)
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:13:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Jul22.011342.25970
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <1992Jul21.172547.5479@eskimo.celestial.com> ntprlr@eskimo.celestial.com (NightProwler) writes:
>
>I just heard from a friend of mine at Dark Horse that they just lost 
>their contract for the Terminator series of books...everything is now
>going to DC.
>
>oh, and the artist who does the Terminator stuff refuses to work with
>DC, so go out and buy up all those back issues before they disappear,
>kiddies!
>

I asked a similar question about Dark Horse loosing Terminator about 2 weeks
ago.  The answer I received was that Marvel and not DC or Valiant was getting
the rights to the Terminator.  This is was both from the net and from someone
that is in the comic book industry (an artist, writer for a bunch of comics,
not able to say name without permission).
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From: jbloem@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: query...
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:57:47 GMT
Reply-To: jbloem@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ()


a question for anyone who can answer:

does anyone know whatever happened to Roachmill (one of Dark Horse's titles)
 (er, better make that several questions..)
does anyone have any issues of the same title when it was with 
Blackthorne? (i believe that's the right publisher)
and.. 
does anyone out there have any of the first 12 or 15 issues or Warlock 5
by (i believe) Aircel before they changed artists.. (why did they do that
anyways???)


Glen
From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: JSA#1:BUY IT-spoilers
Date: 21 Jul 1992 18:30:41 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx

In article <1992Jul21.162252.15173@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> goerz@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas R Goerz) writes:
>I agree it was okay and the final story was good, but I had many problems
>with the opening scenes.

	The problem, IMHO, is that we never got to see any of the reunion
scenes of all the JSA getting back with their families, children and 
ex-sidekicks/teammates.   The scene at the ballpark took place months after
they returned from Limbo.

>  1) Where were Dr. Fate(s), PowerGirl, SSK, Jade, etc ??  I think they may
>     be happy to see the JSA??  I mean you can't instantly fill up a stadium
>     with people.  Why was Clark the only one to make it????  YuK!

	Probably the Nelsons didn't want to show up their friends' big day.
Wally West and Hal Jordan also should have been there, but then it would
have gotten far too crowded.  The scene was semi-symbolic to show that
(without Spectre or Dr Fate), the JSA is pretty much not in the same class
(power wise) as today's super teams.   Before anyone mentions Starman 
Green Lantern and Flash (JSA versions), let me point out the rest of the
team is pretty much non-powered (Atom, Wildcat) or dependant of gadgets  
(Hourman, Hawkman).
>  2) The foreshadowing monster was easily defeated by Superman and the JSA
>     acted as if he was amazing!!  GL alone could have defeated this monster.
>     They should also remember the Golden age Supes.  THey did before they
>     left for there long trip.

	The Golden Age Superman (and Batman, and Wonder Woman, and Green Arrow,
...) never existed in current continuity.  The JSA's memories changed along 
with the rest of the DC universe's to reflect current continuity.

>  3)  How about Jay and Alan talking of their wives more?!?!

	Hey, you got a whole scene of that.  It'd be nice to show them more,
but once you get done with all of the JSA-ers families and so on, you're well
into issue #10 and many readers will be clamoring "GET ON WITH IT, MAN!"
(I'd love it, but it wouldn't see very well.)
>  4)   Hawkman and HawkWoman look good for old folks!!!!

	Yup.  The rejuvinating effect of Limbo, not to mention Ian Karkull's
energy, has kept them in mostly good shape.
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From: grimm@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Jerry Michael Grimm)
Subject: Re: Swapthing/Alan Moore
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:41:50 GMT


Hmm, it been a while since I've seen any info requests for
Swapthing on the subject line.

Wasn't Swapthing a character created by Alan Moore just after his
success with Watchmen, while hawking either jeans or sneekers on
the Beeb?

I didn't pay much attention, but wasn't the premise that it was an
angst-ridden secondhand-store owner, who discovers that an apparently
old toaster is actually a futuristic time-shfit/space-shift device which
can alos alter molecular composition.  I think I remember seeing a scene
where his power accicdentally activates in a diner, and thinking about
how cheesy the grill scene was.

Or am I mis-rembembering?

Mike Grimm
From: ntprlr@eskimo.celestial.com (NightProwler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: No more Terminator @ DH
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:25:47 GMT
Organization: Ghost in the Shell
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


I just heard from a friend of mine at Dark Horse that they just lost 
their contract for the Terminator series of books...everything is now
going to DC.

oh, and the artist who does the Terminator stuff refuses to work with
DC, so go out and buy up all those back issues before they disappear,
kiddies!

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From: victor.ng@rose.com (victor ng)
Subject: Metropolis
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:49:41 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 07-27-92 15:14
>In article <mumble> silvers3@husc8.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith) writes:

>>> Metropolis was originally supposed to represent the good side of New
>>> York City and Gotham was the bad side of the same.

Whoa!  Hold on a sec, Metropolis is supposed to be Toronto.  The Daily
Planet used to be called the Daily Star in reference to the Toronto
Star, eh?

Vic
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From: mickey@brahms.udel.edu (Ernest McCarter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: DC: Guy vs Lobo (was Re: Sinestro's ring!)
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:41:38 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware


In Article 78571, sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes:

> So basically, Guy is dead meat on a stick when Lobo comes after him.  And
> no one on Earth can stop him.

I'm not going to argue against this just because I can't stand Lobo.
I would like to point out that Guy and Lobo have squared off twice
before.  The first time, in JLI #19, the fight was interrupted, but
Guy was doing well enough.  The second time was during Breakdowns,
where they seemed pretty reasonably matched.

All in all, I would say Lobo shouldn't even be able to lay a finger
on Guy, considering Guy's powers.


Mick

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Crisis Inconsistencies (WAS: Re: The Problem with the GL yellow we
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:30:21 GMT

Actually, Denny O'Neill came up with a good way to scale back Supe's powers, 
and it *was* permanent...until another editor took over.  He had an 
experimental reactor transform all kryptonite into lead, making it harmless.  
However, due to a side effect of the accident, an energy double of Supes began 
to form, which siphoned his power.  At the end of the story (and the inevitable
battle betwixt the two), the double left Earth, taking much of Supe's power 
with it.  Superman thus lost his K weakness and was scaled back to about the 
power level he's at now.  But editorial laziness on the part of later editors 
restored Clark to his former level of glory and boringness.  And this all 
happened about 20 years ago.
     Dave Van Domelen, really glad white K and jewel K and blue K and puce K 
and cerise K don't exist no mo'.
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas P. Johnston)
Subject: Re: Paul the Samurai
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:16:36 GMT
Keywords: Paul Tick

bzthomps@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Zac Thompson) writes:


>Best comics I've seen in a long, long, time.  I haven't had the chance to look for them lately.  I had no idea Paul had his own thing going!  When did it start?
>How many issues?  Or does it even exist at all...?

Not only does the book exist, I've also seen a TPB called (I think)
The Collected Paul the Samurai.  I haven't looked at it yet, but based on
the TPB's thickness, Iwould guess it has either 3 or 4 comic books'
worth of material.

Tom

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From: burdickd@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Dakin Burdick)
Subject: Re: DANGER! Cool World is a BOMB! STAY AWAY!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:48:15 GMT

I really didn't expect a lot from this movie, so I was only mildly
disappointed.  I've seen all of Bakshi's other work, so I just 
automatically go to the next one.  I think Bakshi's movies are like
Richard Corben's comix; both feature wonderful art but the stories
are often deficient.  Except in this case, the art just wasn't
all that impressive.  I'll agree with everybody else; the superhero
bit at the end was the best, and it was not original (stolen from
that giant cockroach animation).

Dakin
burdickd@copper.ucs.indiana.edu

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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: San Diego Comic-Con
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Cc: dimshftr@netlink.cts.com wmorgan
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:12:26 GMT

In article <mgXioB4w164w@netlink.cts.com> dimshftr@netlink.cts.com (Adam Tow) writes:

>        I heard a rumor that William Shatner would be attending on
>Saturday (August 15) for a brief time at the 23rd San Diego Comic Con;
>can anyone either confirm or deny this rumor? E-mail replies preferred,
>but posts okay too. Thanks...

I'm posting because it seemed to have a wider audience.  Followups
directed to rec.arts.comics.misc .

From Comics Buyer's Guide #975, July 24, 1992, page 38:

    "... Here is the guest line-up:
    (...)
    William Shatner, Star Trek's Captain Kirk, who is being brought by
    Marvel Comics, which is adapting his TekWars novel for comics.  He
    is currently scheduled to appear on Saturday at 1 p.m., but
    details are still being worked out.  His appearance depends on his
    filming schedule.  As it now stands, people who wish to attend his
    talk must get a ticket for the event from the Marvel booth -- and
    tickets will be made available on a first-come, first-served
    basis."

The issue was mailed July 8, so the news is at least nineteen days old
(I type this on July 27).


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From: mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (plain)
Subject: Re: Infinity War...Geez...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:19:12 GMT
Keywords: Reality, Gem, whereabouts, turkey, ham, cheese, killer-nazi-clowns

teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero) writes:

>Infinity War:  This was a BAD idea.  Not just bad in the sense that it was
>  a stupid mistake that brought all the characters together ONE MORE TIME to
>  fight another stupid battle on the edge of the universe.  No, this goes a 
>  little further.  I have lost any respect that I ever had for Jim Starlin and
>  most of my respect for Marvel.


Personally I don't give a damn about what Marvel does with an individual
title, but this blasted mega-crossover business has pretty much driven
me away from Marvel.  The only title I get now is FF, and that is mostly
from nostalgia (and this is from a guy who once, oh those many years ago, 
was about as big a Marvel fanboy as you could come by).  What's the point
of the crossover anyway?  Oh look, there's Superhero X fighting his
or her evil self.  Ah, well, that's my rant for the day.
Love and kisses.
-Vincent
From: jap@acsu.buffalo.edu (James A. Perreault)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: JSA#1:BUY IT-spoilers
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:08:06 GMT
Organization: UB

I too would heartily recommend this book.

albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:

>In article <1992Jul21.162252.15173@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> goerz@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas R Goerz) writes:

>>  1) Where were Dr. Fate(s), PowerGirl, SSK, Jade, etc ??  I think they may
>>     be happy to see the JSA??  I mean you can't instantly fill up a stadium
>>     with people.  Why was Clark the only one to make it????  YuK!

I agree that Dr. Fate is sorely missing.  I suspect that he is tied up with
some sort of revival ( as was mentioned in his last issue)  Powergirl, after
all her post-Crisis retconning, I would not like to like to see in this series.
Unless they retcon the retcons.   You're right, Infinity Inc was sorely missing.
But heh, it is the JSA's book after all.

>>  2) The foreshadowing monster was easily defeated by Superman and the JSA
>>     acted as if he was amazing!!  GL alone could have defeated this monster.
>>     They should also remember the Golden age Supes.  THey did before they
>>     left for there long trip.

>	The Golden Age Superman (and Batman, and Wonder Woman, and Green Arrow,
>...) never existed in current continuity.  The JSA's memories changed along 
>with the rest of the DC universe's to reflect current continuity.

But they had teamed up with Superman lots of times before.  They shouldn't have
been dumb founded or stupified like they were.  But this is a minor continuity
complaint.  I try to keep continuity complaints and story complaints seperately,
so not to impair my enjoyment of the story.


>>  4)   Hawkman and HawkWoman look good for old folks!!!!

They were wearing masks.  And I assumed HawkGIRL had died her hair.  I am
glad that they seem to be ignoring many of the retcons.  Such as coloring
Hawkgirl's costume like Hawkgirl's and not like HawkWomans.


As Tom said earlier, this series has promise.  Let's see what they do with it.


						Jim
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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Lobo the series????
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:37:59 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Jul29.010838.7396@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> by perry@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Perry Staltari):
> 	Is there going to be a series with Lobo being the main
> attraction? Lobo's Back #2 was typically Lobo style. I've actually

    DC has said several times that they like the miniseries format for
    Lobo, and don't plan a regular series. It's kind of like LotDK,
    but without any official single title (or letter column, etc).

> Perry Staltari		          	| Things aren't always as bad
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From: rydd@cpsin2.cps.msu.edu (Thor Rydd)
Subject: Re: Give Galactus "HIS" due
Originator: rydd@cpsin2.cps.msu.edu
Reply-To: rydd@cpsin2.cps.msu.edu (Thor Rydd)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 02:05:57 GMT

In article <l7ghu5INNaqe@male.EBay.Sun.COM> thor@eb5ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Vaughn Rhoades) writes:
>
>
>	Braian McInerney writes:
>
>	>This will explain why Galactus's strength has diminished to the point
>	>where everyone this side of Aunt May can kick his ass...and it sets
>	>up why he almost died in FF awhile back...the construct attempted a
>	>form of suicide.
>
>===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#===#==
>
>
>
>
>	I agree with you that the Galactus character has been weakened
>	considerably, and the simple solution is to have Lee/Kirby do
*--------------------------------------------------------^^^
| >	a story that brings Galactus back into perspective in the Marvel
| >	Universe as the number #1 BAD ASS!!!
| >
| >
|
|
----V
    Well Stan the Man did write the Silver Surfer 2-issue limit series
In which Galactus comes back to Earth and imposes himself as GOD upon
the yammering mortal masses.

    While this was an amusing tale I found his characterization of
Galactus to be way off.  I mean the Big "G" has said on "myriad" (Jim Starlin's
favorite word) occasions that he is beyond such base and petty emotions.

    Galactus has also said that he is "beyond such concepts as Revenge"
and yet in the one-shot Silver Surfer Vol.2/#1 John Byrne has Galactus
return the the surfers' homeworld and deforest (not destroy or eat) it 
in revenge for the surfer turning on him and defending Earth.  Byrne went
so far as to have Galactus actually inform the inhabits of his revenge
and allow them time to flee the planet.  This is about the most out
of character I've ever seen Galactus written.  Not to mention the way he
retcons away the classic Dr.Doom vs. Surfer story as being all part of
one of Misphesto's sceams.

    I do like Starlin's characterization of Galactus so far in the Infinity
War.  Some one posted that Galactus shouldn't have needed to recruit 
Dr.Strange to help find the Magus, but this goes along with a tried and
true law of the Marvel universe that seperated Magic from Cosmic powers.
The battle between big "G" and Strange's cattipiller pal in one of the
Dr. Strange Infinity-War crossovers was pretty cheesy though.

   Starlin's brief run on the Surfer also saw some great characterization
of Galactus.  The issue where the surfer goes to him to have his soul
'unaltered' sticks out as a good example, especially the last part where 
Thanos pops up and toys with Galactus's lunch.

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From: cole@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Robert Cole)
Subject: Re: Crisis Inconsistencies (WAS: Re: The Problem with the GL yellow weakness)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:18:19 GMT

rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) writes:


>So, although technically,
>yes, Superman had not been changed immediately in the comics after Crisis
>was over, Byrne's issues of Man of Steel and the Superman titles were to
>pick up the continuity immediately after Crisis.  There may have been one
>or two issues of the Superman books published after Crisis without the 
>Byrne changes to Superman, but it was definitely planned out by DC that
>Byrne would begin writing the definitive post Crisis Superman.  
>So, I would have to say yes, the Post Crisis Superman is Byrne's Superman,
>which is definitely different than the Pre Crisis Superman.

If I remember correctly (and it has been a number of years), only one
post-Crisis Superman story appeared (not counting the issues of Crisis
that took place after the merger) and it was in DC Comics Presents.  The
issue was billed as a post-Crisis crossover (the only one to my
knowledge).  It dealt with Superman, Pariah, Harbinger, and Lady Quark
meeting up with the Earth DC version of Lord Volt (Quark's dead -- or
rather non-existant -- husband from Earth 6).  At the end, Pariah,
Harbinger, and Lady Quark went off to explore the new Earth DC.

I think the remaining issues of the Superman titles (including DC Comics
Presents, a de facto Superman comic) were either imaginary stories or
were stated in footnotes to occur pre-Crisis.  So, Superman's pre-Byrne,
post-Crisis appearances were very limited.  I kind of wish issue 12 of
Crisis had ended with ther merger and the left the aftermath to be dealt
with in the monthly titles after everthing got sorted out by the
writers.  Actually, I believe someone at DC wanted to take an approach
similar to this by starting all DC comics over at issue #1 with origin
stories, etc.  Wish they had.  Then again, I wish they would re-write
issue #12 in the Crisis trade paperback to reflect the current DC
universe.

Robert Cole
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Marvel Continuity
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:52:09 GMT

Actually, all they'll really have to change is that the US wasn't in the 
conflict, which will make Rhodey a merc or something.  Remember, the Cambodian 
conflict lasted well beyond the early 70s, and still flares up every so often.
Stark need only have been unlucky enough to be caught in SE Asia at the time of
a flare-up.
     Dave Van Domelen, thinks the ammo belt worn by the Colonel in the 
retelling of Iron Man's origin looks like Cookies' Fig Newtons