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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:31:57 EST
From:         "Scott Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: NO SUBJECT
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              8 Apr 1992 12:34:28 EST from <BWEBBER%ONET.EDU@IBM4381.ONET.EDU>

On Wed, 8 Apr 1992 12:34:28 EST Bill Webber, Senior Systems Programmer said:
>Does anyone know of a "FTPable/GETable package" which would allow our
>VM/SP 5 users to do "word" searches.  I'm not sure what the "file structure"
>would be but I believe that the fastest would be CMS "flat" files.  Hopefully
>said package would have "fullscreen/XEDIT" capabilities.

  I have the SEARCH4 routine.  Also have an EXEC/DMS panel front end.
FTP to 144.11.100.1, userid ANONYMOU, password GUEST and MGET SEARCH*.*
and also GET MODSEND EXEC.  Break the members of the SEARCH* PACKAGE
files into separate files and use MODSEND against any that have a
FileType of MODSEND.

Scott       | No success can compensate for failure in the home. David O. McKay
Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:59:23 EST
From:         "Scott Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Date conversion utility
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              10 Apr 1992 12:29:00 EDT from
              <PEPMNT%CFAAMP.BITNET@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:29:00 EDT John F. Chandler said:
>
>....... stuff deleted .......
>
>other is a "Julian date" (referring to a chronology invented in the 19th
>century which counts days from January 1, 4713 B.C.).  The Julian date

  How do the modern star gazers handle the ugly switches from the Julian
(as in Ceaser) and Gregorian calendars?  At how many different times was
the switch made by the various countries then in existance?

Scott       | No success can compensate for failure in the home. David O. McKay
Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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From: hartnegg@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Klaus Hartnegg)
Subject: Re: MSDOS compatible archives
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Deutschland
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 09:27:28 GMT

Ernest Crvich <GENERAL@VTVM1.BITNET> writes:

>  Do such utilities for VM exist?  I'm not very choosy about which
>archiver (lharc, zoo, zip, arj, etc.), but I would like to be able to
>archive things on VM and be able to un-archive them under MSDOS.

There is a ZOO package for VM/CMS. You can request it with this command:
tell listserv at blekul11 get zoo package c-chest
This is the old zoo, i.e. without the high performance option.

You will also need the nuctasks and the touch package from the
same listserver (also in the c-chest directory).

Note however that by transferring compressed files to a pc,
you will end up with text files coded in ebcdic instead in ascii.
There are utilities available to correct this, for example the
two programs c-trans.zip and crlf15a.zip from simtel in directory 
<msdos.txtutl> will do the trick. If you can't find ctrans, get e2a142
and look for ctrans again a few days later.

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:22:20 CST
From:         Allen Wittenauer <CA2096@SIUCVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      IUCVTRAP

What is the host site of IUCVTRAP?  I'd like to get AFD'd to a LISTSERV
that keeps updates of that MODULE.  Thanks.

Allen Wittenauer
Computing Information Center
Southern Illinois University
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 08:22:01 EST
From:         "Scott Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: loading a tape
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              17 Apr 1992 13:46:32 GRW from
              <ISKAR2%TRMARUNV.BITNET@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:46:32 GRW cem sefa sutcu said:
>Hi\
>I have a wheel tape that has my readerlist files. Someone in the system has bac
>ked them up for me some time ago. But he's gone now.
>And the problem is that I want lo load them to my readerlist back\ but I don't
>know by which command he backed up. Is it SPTAPE\ TAPE\ or SPLOAD or something
>else??
>So\ is there a common way load such a tape whan you don't know its format?
>What can I do?
>Once I scanned tape but couldn't load..

  If the person backed up your rdr files they probably did it with the
SPTAPE command.  An easy way to find out is to mount the tape (WITH OUT
A TAPE RING IN) and do an SPTAPE SCAN.

Scott       | No success can compensate for failure in the home. David O. McKay
Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
From: kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse)
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Subject: Re: NO SUBJECT
Date: 9 Apr 1992 17:23:56 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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In article <VM-UTIL%92040814495560@OHSTVMA.IRCC.OHIO-STATE.EDU<> COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL (Scott Mattes) writes:
<>On Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:58:16 EST Bill Webber, Senior Systems Programmer said:
<>>Please forgive me for sending this inquiry to the list but I have been unable
<>>to locate any information on either the EXEC or the author in question.
<>>I have tried "nic" & "archie" but to no avail.
<>>
<>>On 4/4/92 I received a note which referenced a DEL EXEC and the author.
<>>
<>>Can anyone inform me as to where I may FTP to in order to GET this EXEC?
<>
<>  I sent an email to netserv@pucc with the command get del exec and it
<>arrived the same day.
<>
<>Scott       | No success can compensate for failure in the home. David O. McKay
<>Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

If you use the TELL command for BITNET you can get the package in a
matter of 30 seconds or so.    Just type in TELL NETSERV at PUCC GET
DEL EXEC.


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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:29:00 EDT
From:         "John F. Chandler" <PEPMNT@CFAAMP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Date conversion utility

> >I have to point out that Julian date 88001 was 6463 years ago.  It was
> >not in the year 1988, as many IBM'ers seem to suppose.  Today's Julian
> >date is 2448722.5.
> --Could you please explain this John, rather than leave it hanging. I feel
> --like I am about to fall off my chair.

I guess it's time to deliver my lecture on calendars again.  The last
time was over a year ago.  There are two valid uses of the word "Julian"
in connection with dates: one is a "Julian calendar date" (referring to
a date according to the calendar imposed on the Romans by Julius Caesar,
now replaced by the Gregorian calendar virtually everywhere), and the
other is a "Julian date" (referring to a chronology invented in the 19th
century which counts days from January 1, 4713 B.C.).  The Julian date
was invented by and for astronomers at a time when the only "computers"
were clerks who sat at desks and did calculations with pencil and paper.
The Julian date was invented to give astronomical computers a break by
avoiding the nuisance calculations of calendar dates in years, months,
and days.  Sometime later, after the electronic computer was invented,
somebody who felt the same need for avoiding the same nuisance and who
had heard of, but did not fully understand, the Julian date, decided
that the day-of-year was a useful construct and decided to call it the
"Julian date".  That was a mistake, since the name was already taken.

In case you're wondering about the ".5", it's just a by-product of the
fact that astronomers traditionally work at night -- by making the date
turn over at noon instead of midnight, the observations made during a
single night could be tabulated with the same date.  Thus, to avoid
confusion, we refer to a civil day by the Julian date at its beginning.
                                          John
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:42:49 EDT
From:         "Paul M. Karagianis" <KARYPM@SJUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Date conversion utility

30 days has September, April, June and November...
All the rest have 31 except for the second to which we assign
28 and a leap years 29.

...Unless your program has to be able to go back further than November
1582, in which case your stuck with October 1582 which has 21 days in it.

By decree the day following October 4th 1582 was October 15th.
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:07:25 EST
From:         "Scott Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Date conversion utility
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              9 Apr 1992 12:57:34 MST from
              <MICKEY%UNMVMA.BITNET@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:57:34 MST Mickey Tibbetts said:
>Hello,
>   I used to have a Julian date conversion utility but didn't seem to have
>much use for it. Now a use comes up but I didn't keep the utility. Could
>I get one of you generous soles out there to provide me with such a tool.
>I would be very appreciative. Thanks in advance.

  Don't you just hate that?  I will send you my DATECALC EXEC, it does
all sorts of date conversions, and date math.

Scott       | No success can compensate for failure in the home. David O. McKay
Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:11:21 MET
Reply-To:     BSANTAN@USACHVM1
From:         BSANTAN@USACHVM1.BITNET
Subject:      vmmap

Hi everyone;
I'm trying to use VMMAP (to obtain performance stadistics)
but I'm stuck on a problem; it doesn't find the PLILIB TXTLIB.
The manual says : "...ensure the OS-CMS PL/I text library is
on an accessed disk", but I'm affraid I don't have it. I've
greped all over my disks and found nothing at all.
Does anyone have this file? ...or does anybody know something
more about this???

Thanks in advance.

Berenice Santander. BSANTAN@USACHVM1.
SECOM - Universidad de Santiago de Chile.

P.D. :Special regards to Scott Mattes. There's no doubt that he's
the most "popular" VMUTIL scriptor.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:38:22 EDT
From:         Thomas Kern <U8803KT@DOECX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Dates, Julian dates and 2001: A Date Odyssey
              13 Apr 1992 11:43:17 HAE from <ADMIN@VM1.ULAVAL.CA>

On Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:43:17 HAE Jean Bedard said:
>I don't want to start a discussion that should belong to IBM-MAIN; I just
>want to know if VM system(s) and products will be adapted in time for
>the change. Some products, like APL2, already work right.

VMCENTER product line has already started changing for the new century.
Dates in VMTAPE are listed as yyyy/ddd.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:25:44 EDT
From:         Joe Daly <U8806DJ@DOECX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Assembler H

On VM/SP 5, the DUMP command is still available as well as the DEBUG function.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:59:39 EDT
From:         Hugh Kelsea Moore <MOORE@GE1VM.SCHDY.GE.COM>
Subject:      Sort DOSLIB for INFO/SYS
Comments: To: VM-UTIL@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

We have recently acquired INFO/SYS/MAN for the obvious reasons.  However,
INFO/MAN has a requirement that took us by surprise.... there is a need
for a sort facility on various reports, and it must run under CMSDOS.
IBM says that we must now get SM2 for a OTC of approx. $6000.  I am looking
for a public domain product that will do the job but won't cost this
"blackmail" price of $6000.  We already have IBM's DFSORT... now they
want us to acquire SM2 on top of this.  Can anyone out there suggest an
alternative?   Thanks in advance.

Hugh Kelsea Moore
Lead System Programmer
Knolls Atomic Power Laboratory
Schenectady, New York
(518) 395-4880
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:24:45 USM
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From:         ++Vitoco <VPARADA@UTFSM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Date conversion utility

IF ((year MOD 4)=0) AND ((year MOD 100)<>0) THEN february=29
                                            ELSE february=28
++Vitoco
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:07:53 EDT
From:         Dan Newcombe <STDN@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Data lost during SESSION

Well, I have had no problem with SESSION and I use it quite a bit.
1)  I have never had it jump back to the parent account unless
    I got a message from the system operator saying the system was
    going down. And any damage was cleared by CLEAR.

2) Even if I do session back to the parent account due to a message
   and come back to the child, I still have no problem...though I do
   use PA2 instead of CLEAR...I only use CLEAR in the most dire of
   emergencies.

     -Dan
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 10:11:29 EST
From:         "Scott Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: scrolling output
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              8 Apr 1992 16:02:55 EDT from
              <DMEJJ%CUNYVM.BITNET@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:02:55 EDT Arthur Schlissel said:
>Is there a program that would allow the ouput of a rexx exec to scrool
>continuously across the screen?
>Thank you.
>Arthur Schlissel
>dmejj@cunyvm

  I am assuming you mean that you don't have to press CLEAR when each
screen fills.  Yes, someone has a mod to CP to let you set the length of
time a MORE...  Stays up, but where it is I don't know (though I could
ask on VMSHARE where I heard of it).

  A technique that I us, and any class user can, is to CP SPOOL CONS *
START NOTERM and then run the EXEC.  Then I CP SPOOL CONS * STOP CLO
TERM and look at the RDR file.

Scott       | No success can compensate for failure in the home. David O. McKay
Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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From: xmas@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mark A. Stevens)
Subject: Re: Data lost during SESSION
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:12:22 GMT

I created a small userid to be the "father" of one or more SESSION
connected "children" (reminds me of IMS and backups.)  The father has
WNG and MSG OFF and the other userids which I need run CMS Windows (to
catch important messages) or hold the message until I clear the
screen.

Ihth
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Educational Computing Network             BITNET:   XMAS@ECNUXA.BITNET
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:20:31 EST
From:         "Scott Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: VmShare
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              12 Apr 1992 00:00:20 EDT from
              <057504%ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:00:20 EDT Costa Karamalis said:
>Some questions:
>1) can anyone explain me how to use the vmshare? We have a program
>here in our univ. called vmshare that is supposed to connect you to a
>site, but I cant seem to ba able to understand how it works, and noone
>here knows too. (even the ones that should be)

  VMSHARE is a for pay service that your site would have to contract for
before you could use it.  If the ones that should know how to use it
(the systems programming staff) then I would assume that your site does
not contract for the service.

>2) is it possible to have multiple screens (windows)? I am writting a
>rexx program and want to have several windows in my screen as an output
>when the program executes.

  Look in the CMS help menu for the DEFINE command.  This is used to
define windows and such using the CMS windows support (VM release 5 and
up).

>3) Also is there a way to have menus, where you go with the cursor and
>press enter to choose the selection? Or to know in any time where the
>cursor is?
>I am used in programming at the Pc and these things were normal there,
>but I cant seem to find anything like that  on the Vm.

  You can use XEDIT for this (just as 'normal' as doing it on the PC).

  I will send you an example of doing 2 and 3 directly.

Scott       | No success can compensate for failure in the home. David O. McKay
Mattes      | President 1951-70, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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From:         JREED <JREED.IRSS@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      position available

To: SOS-DATA

Louis Harris and Associates (in NYC) is looking for a survey data
librarian.  Anyone interested and suitable should get in touch with David
Krane, at 212-698-9697.
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:37:53 CDT
From:         "Paul Pratte" <PRATTE@UMSLVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Automating mounts of volsers on a specific drive or drives

We are testing out some 8mm tape drives on our VM system and I need
to only allow mounts for certain volsers.  The 8mm drive looks like
a 3422 to VM and VMTAPE thinks its a 1600/6250 reel drive.  So
it can not distinguish between real 6250 tapes and 8mm tapes.

Since these 8mm drives are only for VMARCH and VMBACKUP,
should I run another VMTAPE with only these drives defined thereby
restricting it to only that tape system ?

Is there an easy soloution to this problem ?

Thanks.
Paul Pratte
University of Missouri - St. Louis
Pratte@umslvma.umsl.edu
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:57:22 EDT
From:         Richard W Wiggins <RWWMAINT@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 8mm drives with VMTAPE

>
>The problem I am having is how to get VMTAPE to request the mounts
>only on drives 390 and 391 which are the 8mm's and not 380-383
>which are the 3420 reels.
>
>............. Is there an exit that can modify what real drive
>is being requested ?  Is there a way to pool devices logically
>and request mounts as we do with volsers ?

Long ago I asked for a general solution along these lines.
You want to be able to say that a certain series only goes to
a certain pool of real devices.  I'd also like to be able to
say that preferentially certain requests try one pool of devices
first -- for instance if some tape drives are faster than others,
it'd be nice if VMBACKUP mount requests landed on the fast ones
when they are available.

Even if you come up with a local solution, it would be nice to
suggest that SCI provide a general solution.   What with 3420,
3480/3490, IDRC, 8 MM, maybe DAT... A lot of us are going multimedia.

/Rich Wiggins, Michigan State U
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 10:13:27 EST
From:         TW@UMAB.BITNET
Subject:      Automating mounts of volsers on a specific drive or drives

Paul,

    I'm interested in the 8mm technology for backing up our 4381 system.
Where did you get your drives?  How much data can you put on them?
How much did they cost?  Have you been satisfied with them?

    Have you looked at the user exits for VMtape, or talked with
Systems Center about your question?

- Tom
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