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From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Subject: Re: Fav Directors
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:28:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.164320.24930@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> smurray@mta.ca writes:
>
>Just for fun, I wonder what some favourite directors are out there.
>Giants like Coppola, Hitchcock, etc. will be named for sure, but
>what about *personal* directors - directors that make movies that
>you *personally* like?  I like all the biggies, of course, but I
>think my favourite (here it is again) *personal* director would
>be John Carpenter of "Halloween" fame.  Anyne care to share their
>own opinions?
>
>Sean Anthony M.

Off the top of my head...

Terry Gilliam (Brazil-my all-time favorite movie)
Bill Forsyth (Local Hero, Comfort and Joy, Gregory's Girl)
John Sayles (The Brother From Another Planet, Matewan, ...Secacus Seven)
Wim Wenders (Wings of Desire, Until the End of the World)
Werner Herzog (Fitzcarraldo)
Alan Rudolph (Trouble in Mind, Choose Me)
Richard Rush (The Stunt Man. Ok, so some of his others were stinkers, but
this one makes up for everything else)
Walter Murch (Return to Oz. The is the *only* film he's ever directed,
as far as I know, but it's one of my top 10s. Painfully underrated film!)
Martha Coolidge (Real Genius, Rambling Rose)
Gillian Armstrong (My Brilliant Career, Mrs. Soffel)

Vickie

"The moving walkway is now ending. Please look down."
                     Our Lady of the Silver Cylinder

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From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: the absolute worst movie of all time, so bad it's bad
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:21:41 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1992Oct3.151230.19043@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@mantaray.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
|> In article <2OCT199220125227@nsinic.gsfc.nasa.gov> lev@nsinic.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev) writes:
|> >In article <wemAPWm00WB4JNh2Qv@andrew.cmu.edu>, kn00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin S Ng) writes...
|> >> 
|> >>    ...
|> "Orgy Of The Dead" is total proof that "Plan 9 From Outer Space" is NOT
|> the worst film ever, as claimed by some....

I never said that "Plan 9 from outer Space" was the Worst file, only
that it had the fewest actors - None.  ;-)
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From: rlm7638@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jack McKinney)
Subject: Re: movies with labelled chapters
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:48:54 GMT

In article <Bv905y.9t3@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>
>Let's make a list of movies with "chapters" in them. That is, the film
>is broken into segments, each with its own title, but this does not
>include films of entirely different stories, like New York Stories.

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From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Subject: actors/directors (was: Fav Directors)
Keywords: none
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:41:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.132426.12643@pony.Ingres.COM> walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker) writes:
>	< rest of message deleted >
>
>On a related note.... any opinions on other actors turned directors? That is,
>people who made a name for themselves as actors first. Some examples:
>Ron Howard, Rob Reiner, Robert Redford, etc.

He's not well-known as either an actor or a director, but I would choose
Bob Balaban.

Acted in: Close Encounters of the Third Kind (also wrote a wonderful book
about the experience) & Altered States, among others.

Directed: Parents-a strange little film about "Family Values & Cannibalism."

Vickie

               Friends don't let friends vote Republican
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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Date: 26 Sep 92 13:05:51 GMT
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gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:

>How could someone be responsible for killing lots of other replicants
>and keep it a secret?  Sounds reasonable to me that lots of replicants
>have heard about him.

Sure, like all the little replicants on the outer worlds get
together and talk about the newest rumors from earth.

-- 
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From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Die Hard 3 (It's a Small World After All)
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:15:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: venera.22509
	<1992Sep19.191300.4146@wam.umd.edu>
	<greg.717038057@babel.cltr.uq.oz.au>
	<1992Sep22.142314.16244@news.acns.nwu.edu>
	<greg.717203681@babel.cltr.uq.oz.au>
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: greg@ctpm.uq.oz.au's message of 22 Sep 92 23:14:41 GMT

yIn article <greg.717203681@babel.cltr.uq.oz.au> greg@ctpm.uq.oz.au (Greg Hall) writes:

> 
>      I reckon its pretty good. Most of those one-liners are 
>      spot-on (A damn sight better than the ones in DHII).
>      I hope the Producers read this stuff. 

I'm sure they dop... (snicker).

>      One small reservation: Disneyland might be a bit too
>      big. But I suppose if McClane could keep track of a
>      bunch of terrorists in a 40 storey building, it
>      shouldn't be too hard.

And, of course, it's the competition, so it'd never happen in a
million years.

(But why let reality intrude here?  I hope Bruce Willis is reading
this, and like the idea, and buys it for a bucket o' bucks... yeah)

jas
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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:34:41 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Sep25.210848.405@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, by mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell):
> Why then does the police chief tell Gant that "he could learn a lot from
> this guy" if all he does is plod along?

Because it takes a lot of experience to plod along well, and Deckard
is fairly good at plodding up close to his prey.  His weakness is in
finishing them off.

>  Most importantly WHY is Gant
> following him around?  I certianly don't think it is to learn anything
> from Dekkard.  If anything there is a sense of animosity or at least
> tension between the two.

I'd say it is the classic tension between those who thrive in the
system and those who do the dirty work on the fringes.  Obviously
neither Gaff nor the captain want to do the hunting, so they recalled
Deckard.  But since he had to be "persuaded", they don't trust him
completely.  As for Gaff, if they are of similar rank, a bit of
rivalry is natural, with Gaff the guy who prefers sitting in his
office, but now has to look after Deckard as opposed to Deckard, who
has been forced back into the system with Gaff, who thrives within it,
to watch over him.  At least, that's how I always saw it.
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From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: Man in the Moon
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:45:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.133937.18107@hobbes.kzoo.edu> k084118@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Pamela S. Rivers) writes:
>The other day I went to the video store and rented a movie called man in the
>moon.  It was a very low publicized movie, in my area anyway, and it wound up
>being one of the best movies I've seen in a really long time.  Anybody else
>see this movie?  If not I highly recommend it.

I saw it and really didn't care for it very much.  I thought it was too
schmaltzy, too predictable, too pat, too manipulative, and mostly
badly acted to boot.  It had some good points, though:  Sam Waterston
was in it, which is a plus; the photography was very good; and Reese
Witherspoon, who played the main character, did a fine job.  It was
directed by Robert Mulligan, and it seemed as if he was trying to get
the same feel as in To Kill A Mockingbird (which he also directed), but
the story just wasn't there to hold it up.  IMHO.

And it's the first time I recall seeing Gail Strickland since the old
Bob Newhart show.  :-)

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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner CD != Movie Soundtrack
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 04:30:39 GMT
Organization: Mr. Lazlo's Temple Of The Mighty Rude-Boy Skank

geigel@seas.gwu.edu (Joseph Geigel) writes:

>> DETAILS magazine says that Ridley Scott so tormented Vangelis during
>> his scoring the film that Vangelis had his revenge and refused to give
>> them permission to release a Soundtrack album. 
>
> Is this still true?  I had heard that not only had Scott and Vangelis
> mended their differences, but that Vangelis actually finished the score
> for the DC.   

I don't think Vangelis did any new work for the new cut of _Blade Runner_,
but he and Scott are obviously on speaking terms -- Vangelis scored Scott's
new Columbian epic _1492_.

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From: lairdb@crash.cts.com (Laird P. Broadfield)
Subject: Re: Last of the Mohicans Artillery
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:05:35 GMT

In <1992Oct1.015913.29338@netcom.com> tssmith@netcom.com (Tim Smith) writes:

>I saw the movie "The Last of the Mohicans" the other day.  It featured some
>great 18th century firearms stuff, such as long-barrelled flintlock rifles
>that can be reloaded in 2-3 seconds while running full speed, that never
>misfire, and that are good for one-shot kills out to oh about 300 yards.

>Seriously, does anyone here have any comments on the artillery in the siege
>scenes?  It seemed fairly realistic.  Except perhaps for the fact that most
>of the pieces didn't seem to recoil much.  Hmm, perhaps they weren't
>actually shotted?

Actually, I thought they did a much better job than you suggest.  I just
saw it yesterday, and (although I'm not a buckskinner or anything like)
I was particularly watching for multi-shot flintlocks, and I saw only
one shot that I wasn't sure how it had been pulled off (and I'd want
to see that again, several times, to be sure.)  All of the other times,
either enough time passed (and several times Nathaniel was shown
ramrodding while running) or he (and others) were shown to have picked
up another flintlock.  Misfires I'll give you, and range I'll claim
ignorance, but weren't muskets on the order of 95 caliber?  Pretty
good stopping power, I'd think.

Artillery I didn't watch so much, but I do remember the French shown
rolling a cannon back into place.


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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: fav directors
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:32:17 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

HRL>1) Stanley Kubrick for being a complete iconoclast and perfectionist.

     Kubrick's obsession with getting his shots "just right" is legendary,
     There's the time during the making of "The Shining," for instance,
     when he had one of his characters cross a snow-covered road about 85
     times.  (Another Urban Legend?)  A friend of mine associated with
     the Hollywood scene says that Kubrick has taken to wearing a
     surgeon's mask over his face when directing, so perhaps he's taking
     his obsession to new heights.  (Although I can't confirm this.)
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From: green@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bob Green)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:53:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Help -name this film
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
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The movie is called _The Entity_, indeed with Barbara Hershey. It's
based on a true story. Read the book for more info on the researchers.
From: slib1396@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: whatever-hapened-to endings
Keywords: endings
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:53:41 GMT
Reply-To: slib1396@selu.edu
Followup-To: newsgroups
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University


I would like to add three movies to your list.  The Big Chill, Grease,
and The Dirty Dozen.  
I had trouble in trying to send this message, please let me know if you
get it.

Thanks.

JWildslib1396@selu.edu
From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: movies with labelled chapters
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:24:29 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Hey - no one's mentioned 'Vivre Sa Vie' (also - 'My Life To Live') by
Jean-Luc Godard. This film was broken up into twelve distinct chapters,
with white titles on a black screen for each one.

This was the best movie that I saw last year ('Manhattan' came a close
second). Godard's technique just astounded me. The opening scene with
the two characters seated at a bar at a diner with their backs facing
the camera, but with their faces reflected in the mirror, was very
memorable...

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From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:21:08 GMT

mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
>pete writes:
>> (b) is not based on any evidence within the movie, it cannot be
>> used to support your argument (a). :-)

>I confess that for me, "evidence" is not a synonym for "dialogue", so
>if you will not accept plot contradictions there will be no "evidence."

I'm no computer, Markus. I'll accept 'plot contradictions', as long as they're 
unambiguous. Show me one.

>And where do you get they idea they are able to erase memories?  

I don't know they can. I don't know they can't. The point is, on the
evidence, neither you nor I know they can't.

I don't think we'll get any further here; I'm tempted to start quoting
Phil Dick at you, but I don't think that would be on point. 

>Explicitly erasing memories while keeping a replicant functional is
>more difficult than putting memories into a growing replicant's head.

How much more difficult? So difficult that we can rule it out as a possible
interpretation? Why?

>> Third, Blade Runner is science fiction - anything feasible is
>> permissible.

>I don't see what the notion of feasible has to do with this.  Nothing
>in the film suggests that retrofitting implants is feasible (and to
>prove it according to your guidelines, nobody talks about that).

I agree. No one talks about it. No one talks about it being infeasible
either. Therefore it is permissible to interpret the film that way. This is
not "right", not the only interpretation, but still a valid one. So is yours.
I only take issue with your assertion that no other interpretation will do.

>> You're arguing that Deckard is definitely, without a doubt, human. 

>No.  Deckard definitely is not human, he is a character in a film who
>is impersonated by a human actor.  I am arguing that if that character
>were not intended to be human, the film would have a huge gaping
>inconsistency.  Of course, if you accept that, you have no problem.
>Ex falso quodlibet (perfectly fits your definition of SF, by the way).

And qui vult decipi, decipiatur, which fits yours. Deckard is a character
in a film you say? Nonsense, he owes me five dollars ;-). That aside, I still 
don't see the inconsistency, so maybe you should write it out in simple words 
for simple folk like me. 

>> If you cannot prove your position with evidence from
>> the film then my position follows.

>If Your Humbleness decides which parts of the film serve as proof,
>then it is hardly surprising that you do not accept my arguments.

Pots and Kettles and sticks and stones. I have not decided which parts of
the film serve as 'proof', and I'll accept any part of the film you care to
present as 'proof'. I won't accept speculation though.

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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Movies with people wearing clear plastic
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:55:43 GMT
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg

In article <1992Sep29.205443.869@mala.bc.ca> epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.222850.38256@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY) writes:
>> In article <70#pxrm.allyn@netcom.com>, allyn@netcom.com (allyn) writes:
>>>I watched Bladerunner recently and loved the scene with the girl running
>>>wearing a clear plastic raincoat.
>>>
>>>I am curious if any of you out there know of any other flicks with scenes
>>>of people wearing clear plastic.
>>>
>> In _Fried_Green_Tomatoes_ Kathy Bates' character has a fantasy sequence in
>> which she imagines wrapping herself in Saran wrap and greeting her husband as
>> he comes through the door from work.
>
Please, i'm eating lunch...:)

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From: hamster@werple.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Danny Elfman
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:32:41 GMT
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gckchin@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Kelvyn Chin) writes:

>I just caught "Nightbreed" recently, and was pleasantly surprised to 
>find a soundtrack by Danny Elfman. (probably the best thing about the 
>movie). Other than Darkman, Dick Tracy, Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice,
>and the two Batmans, are there any more movies with Elfman's soundtrack that
>I missed? 

Quite a few; I'm sure that someone else has already listed them. "Pee
Wee's Big Adventure" and "Wisdom" are a couple more for starters...

MCA Records in the US and Australia has a CD available by Danny called
"Music From A Darkened Theatre" or similar; it has excerpts from almost
all his soundtrack work on it.

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From: a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly)
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Cameo Appearance in a Film
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:29:51 GMT


Can't remember the film it appeared in (maybe Prince of Tides) but my
favorite cameo appearance was George Carlin as the gay neighbor.

-Neal
From: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM (Lem Fugitt - Nihon Sun US Office)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS
Date: 28 Sep 1992 22:50:14 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article 7384@cbnewsj.cb.att.com, leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (mark.r.leeper) writes:
>                          THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS
>                      A film review by Mark R. Leeper
>
>     Cooper's novel makes strange reading today.  It has the action and
>adventure of a Republic serial told in the style of prose fit for an Oxford
>economic treatise.  You want to read fast to find out what happens next, but
>if you do not struggle you will miss what does happen.  Mark Twain wrote a
>famous essay on how unreadable Cooper is.  And there is many times too much
>plot in the novel to tell the story accurately in a film.  Michael Mann (who
>also directed) and Christopher Crowe wrote a screenplay too close to say it
>was only inspired by the novel, but not close enough to call an adaptation.
>

I was told in one of my long forgotten high school lit. classes that Cooper's
novels were originally written as serials. He would write the first and last
chapters and then ask the publisher how many episodes (i.e. chapters) should
he fit in between...

I believe that Man and Crowe also gave inspirational credit to an earlier
film version (193?).


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From: wu@mdd.comm.mot.com (Philip Wu)
Subject: Re: Andy Garcia
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:57:00 GMT

In <ahom.92Oct051248@tnds.bellcore.com> ahom@yingjow.tnds.bellcore.com (Allen Hom) writes:


>In article <1992Oct5.130808.22282@cs.wayne.edu>, faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong) writes:
>|> After seeing Andy Garcia in Internal Affairs, I've become a big fan of
>|> his. Could someone please tell me what movies he's been in so next time
>|> I go to the video store I know what to rent? E-mail would be most
>|> appreciated.
>|> Thanks.
>|> 
>I don't know *all* his films, but remember seeing him in
>_The_Untouchables_ (w. Kevin Costner and Sean Connery),
>_The_GodFather:Pt_III_, and he is in the current running
>film _Hero_.  All 3 stars shine in this movie (IMHO)!

Also Black Rain with Michael Douglas.

Phil