HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mmediko@hubcap.clemson.edu (Muralidhar Medikonda)
Subject: Re: Comparison between Gandhi and R.Gandhi ??
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:28:25 GMT

gnreddy@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (G.Narotham Reddy) writes:

Mr.Narotham!
	There were occassions when I strongly disagreed with some
of your postings... But I think this posting of yours needs
unqualified acclaim. 
	Let us not undo the sacrifices of Gandhi and Nehru by
loose comparisions.
	I think the posting is very well balanced and supported by
reason.
Three cheers on this!!!!

>Unfortunately, our present day politicians knowingly or unknowingly try 
>to compare Mahatma Gandhi with Rajiv Gandhi. I think a premature worth
>of assessing is taking place; sentimentality is pre-emptying dispassionate 
>judgement. Increasingly there is a mistake of glamour for greatness.

>Nowadays politics provides a few heroes, to invent them can be
>hazardous. Politics today is a vocation like any other; infact, among
>the more paying, if of late tinged with hazard. Politics no longer
>edifies; politicians no longer have any understanding of the selfless
>sacrifice.
>	Gandhiji suffered incarceration six-and-half-years; Nehru spent
>23 days short of nine years in jail; lying adjacent to them Rajiv Gandhi 
>spent barely 11 years in politics, five years as Prime Minister, and 
>four years as Prime Minsiter DESIGNATE.

>	The last of the great have long been dead, therefore, let us 
>not trivialize the titans.


>Regards,

>Narotham
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32586 rec.music.indian.misc:2631
From: partha@pepper.rutgers.edu (the_tramp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Attention PSU students!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:00:53 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

>This note is of interest to Penn State Students, University Park.

Ever noticed the 'distribution' clause when u post a news? 

Hmm.. yeah, i am responding with all my enthu. to act in your play.
How much are u paying??? :) :)
Same rate for PSU actors/actresses  and out of state actors/actresses?? :)
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Plane crash, about 160 died
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:00:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.1048
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

ratan@ring8.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan) writes:
: 
: This morning I overheard the TV saying that 
: 
: 
: 
: About 155 passangers and all the crew members of a plane died in a
:                     crash near Kathmandu. 
: 
: 
: 
: 
: The Plane was flying from Karanchi to Kathmandu. Either it was Royal
: Nepal Airlines or PIA, I am not sure. Please confirm the news

Probably you may be reffering to "Nigirian Airline Crash"
yesturday, in which 163 people died. This crash is not
near Kathmandu, but in Nigeria.

---Sree.
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: More about India
Date: 6 Oct 1992 18:31:46 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov

>In article <1992Oct6.154901.20584@cis.ohio-state.edu> chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct6.150358.28380@coe.montana.edu> prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar) writes:
>>
>>Actualy in Trichy, I have seen groups of men with long poles standing
>>around houses with eaves, and poking and poking at the eaves.  Maybe
>>you want to whitewash such incidents, but in my book that is
>>eave-teasing. :-)

	====  To the humour/sarcasm impaired, this is a tongue-in-cheek  ====
	====  response. In case you are planning to flame me for making  ====
	====  a gross generalisation, I realize that all Indian men are  ====
	====  not like this. Some of them do respect eaves, gables and   ====
	====  bay-windows.  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)                      ====

	This has always been a problem in India. Indian men have 
	traditionally no respect for eaves, and being the chauvinist
	pigs they are, they only look at eaves as objects to be teased.

	All houses with eaves should therefore be moved to the USA.
	There are no reported incidents of eave-teasing in this great
	nation. That is why none of the houses with eaves here are being
	moved to India. Indeed, even Indian homes in the USA with eaves
	do not want to move to India.

	Prem!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sending things dham-dhum.
From: skumar@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:32:47 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University


bura jo dekhan mein chala
bura na miliya koy
jo dil khoja aapno
mujhsa bura na koy
              - KABIR
a rough translation
( I went about searching for evil persons but could find none. I searched my
heart and found that I was the most evil person. )

so stop bickering, jaane bhi do yaaron...

WONKO, THE SANE
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: hemant@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hemant.b.bhatt)
Subject: Lal Bahadur Shastri
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:17:18 GMT


Does anybody know details of Lal Bahadur Shastri?
Was it really heart attack that killed him or was
it Indira Gandhi-KGB conspiracy? Had any netters
seen Shastri's Body during funeral in Delhi?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Re: IIT Bullshit: Hyprocisy again.
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:45:26 GMT

In article <SHUBU.92Sep30111008@green.cs.wisc.edu> shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu Mukherjee) writes:
>
>>>>>> In article <1992Sep30.125950.28436@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel) writes:
>
>RP> I am the only one getting fed up reading all this bullshit about IIT?


This thread on IITs tries to soemhow put the students who graduated
from these places in a bad light. Those who graduated did so, because
it was their right to get decent education. Whether IIT students are
meritorious is a different question altogether. You can find good IIT
students and lousy ones too. The probabilities are the same.

The question, though, should be posed  differently. What is the 
per capita investment on an IIT student. When you do all the accounting,
operational costs, faculty salaries, the real estate cost, etc., it
may be the case that per capita investment on an IIT student is far
in excess of the national average on any student. But these students
may not do that well for the national economy as students from
engg colleges. Which means there must be a way to reduce the
per capita cost in investment. The best way to that is to dispose
of the real-estate assets and ask them to go round to a different
place every 20 years. This is a feasible thing to do? You sell of
IIT Madras as commercial real-estate and go and set up an IIT Kumbakonam 
at Kumbakonam. The real-estate prices in Kumbakonam will certainly be
less! So from the profits you make, fund yourself. But once you
have an IIT in Kumbakonam, the real-estate values go up. Over 20 year
period  you have to move again. Making national institutions move this
way helps the economy a lot. 

The first candidate of such a move should be TIFR, for they don't
need to be in the prime real-estate area of Bombay! It is a pitiful
waste of money! Actually I doubt whether they do anything useful!

This idea is not mine. It is actually due to our bozo ex-cheifminister
NT Rama Rao, who moved a lot of govt offices to Rayalaseema from Hyd.
Laudable it is, though NTR is a bozo. It brought in a lot of 
development into Rayalaseema. Cuddappah town is the prime example
in the growth it achieved.

....kt
From: ajay@cgl.ucsf.EDU (Ajay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Phone # at Yale
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:00:18 GMT
Reply-To: ajay@cgl.ucsf.edu
Organization: CGL

Hello,

    Could someone at Yale (or elsewhere) tell me the phone # for the Dept. of
Forestry $ Environmental Studies at Yale University.?

Thanks.

	---ajay
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.history
From: tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Gulf Airlines to India from Chicago
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:11:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvnozE.n0L
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

mramesh@cbnewse.cb.att.com (m.ramesh) writes:

>Hi Folks:
>Any comments on flying Gulf Airlines to India from Chicago?  I have a
>family - wife, 2year old, 7 month old.  I am getting a good dela on it
>but has anyone experienced any problems worth considering before buying
>the tickes.

>If anybody has better suggestions for airlines (money is an issue) pleae let
>me know.

>Ramesh

I have not flown on Gulf air, but my fiance did and he had no problems. I
also have a female friend who flew on Gulf and she didn't have any problems
either. I understand the food is not great, but not much airline food is.
We are flying to Indian in February and taking Gulf. 

Tracey
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rohan@nmc.cit.cornell.edu (Rohan Oberoi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: SOME BABY JOKES
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:19:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: tc.1992Oct4.141905.8335
Organization: Cornell Network Management Center

Lots of people flaming suresh for his tasteless humour...

Listen you bunch of adolescent morons, WHEN ARE YOU GOING 
TO LEARN that taste has never been a criterion on s.c.i. ?
Most of your own postings are a case in point ;-)

In fact, I think I'll get in on the sick joke thing myself
(why should suresh have all the fun !) :

Q. What do you call a man with a shovel in his head ?
A. Doug.

Q. What do you call a man without a shovel in his head ?
A. Douglas.

Q. What do you call a man who lives in a bathroom ?
A. John.

Rohan
("Yet another blow struck for the frontal lobotomy...")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ash@iron.sni.ca (Ashwin Palekar)
Subject: Re: Sikh Militants Bomb Bus, 5 dead 55 Injured
Keywords: Bomb Death Injury Punjab
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:09:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.130244.24559@ulysses.att.com>, bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy) writes:

|> 	   Sikh militants have often targeted Hindus after the 1984
|> assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi by Sikh bodyguards
|> triggered a wave of Hindu-Sikh riots in the country.

The above statement is misleading .
The Sikh militants have targeted Hindus before her assassination too.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rgopu@cs.tamu.edu (Rangarathnam Gopu)
Subject: Info request - tamil movie songs
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:54:07 GMT

Hi folks,

A friend of mine is going to Madras shortly and I am hoping to get back
a collection of cassettes thru him. But I have forgotten some of the
film names. I have listed below the songs with singers' names in
parantheses. Please reply by email (or use R for netmail reply). Dont want
to waste more bandwidth than necessary. ADAMI scheme followed.  Thanks 
in advance. 

Gopu


Old song - I know nothing about it  except first line
-----------------------------------------------------
siththaadai kattikittu singaaram paNNikkittu 

MGR Songs
---------
buththan yEsu gaandhi piranthathu boomiyil etharkaaka  (TMS)
ninaikka therintha manamE unakku maRakka theRiyaathaa (Suseela)
thaai mEl aaNai thamizh mEl aaNai (TMS)
kaththiyai theettaathE (TMS)

Other Old songs
---------------
Oraayiram paarvaiyilE, un paarvaiyai naan arivEn (TMS)
kallellaam maaNikka kallaagumaa (TMS)
kaathalin pon veethiyil kaathaalan panpaadinaan (TMS,Janaki)
iravukkum pakalukkum ini yenna vElai (TMS, Suseela)
unnai kaaNaatha kaNNum kaNNalla (Suseela)

paramasivan kazhuththil irunthu paambu kEttathu (SPB)

intha manRatthil Odi varum (PBS, Suseela) [police kaaran magaL?]
poochaikku vantha nilavE vaa (PBS, Janaki) [paatha kaaNikkai?]
kaathal nilavE, kaNmaNi raathaa (PBS)

Newer songs
-----------
yaar thoorigai thantha Oviyam (SPB)
vaa vaa vanchi iLa maanE(SPB)
keeravaaNi(SPB)
iLamaienum poongkaatru, paadiyathu Or paattu (SPB) 
nEththu oruttharai orutthar paarthOm (Ilayaraaja,?) [paattukku oru thalaivan?]
azhagaaga siriththathu antha nilavu (Jeyachandran, Janaki)
athikaalai, sugavELai, un Olai vanthathu (Jeyachandran, Janaki)
kaNNaa vaa kavithai solvEn vaa (Janaki)

A little more info
-------------------
paaNdiya naatu meenkodiyil.... (TMS) 
 ....goes on ... ivai moonRum onRaal kaNdaal unnai thamizhagam enbEnE

kadavuL manithanaaka pirakkavENdum  (TMS) 
	(in the same movie as "gangai kaRai thOttam...")

nalla nalla piLLaigaLai nambi  (TMS)
	(is this the one that contains the foll. lines in the pallavi:
	jananaayaka naattil ellOrum mannar
	thennaattu gaandhi aNNaaLil sonnaar)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
rgopu@cs.tamu.edu			ParukkuLE nalla naadu
Texas A&M University			EngaL Baaratha naadu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: satyam@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (satyan.y.bheemarasetti)
Subject: HELP!! HELP!! HELP!!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:59:30 GMT

	Hello netters,

	We are writing this mail on behalf of a friend "Ramesh Babu 
	Sangavarapu", who is a graduate student in New Jersey Institute 
	of Technology. Ramesh's mother required an emergency heart 
	transplant operation. The doctors warned that the operation 
	must be performed within a month, due to which he had to 
	discontinue his Fall semester and leave to India immediately.

	We are requesting contributions from donors like you to cover 
	the cost of heart transplant operation. The doctor fees alone 
	costs around 65,000 Rs. ($2,300 approx.) in Hyderabad, India. 
	We already have collected some contributions from common friends.

	We greatly appreciate any monetory assistance. Those who wish to
	donate, please send a cheque 

	payable to: "Satyam Bheemarasetti" 
	address:
		200 A, Morristown Rd,
		Matawan, NJ 07747.
	
	Please do mention "Friends of Ramesh fund" at the bottom of the cheque.


	We thank for the help you are doing.

	- Satyam Bheemarasetti   	(O) 908-957-6209, (H) 908-290-2475
	- Mahesh Dontamsetty	(O) 908-957-2547, (H) 908-846-6260
		AT&T Bell Labs, Middletown, NJ 07748.

	.....................................................................
	PS: Ramesh Babu is a '86 ECE graduate of JNTU College of Engineering, 
	Kakinada, AP. He was in National Remote Sensing Agency (NRSA), Hyd.
	until he came to US in Jan '92.
	.....................................................................
From: v122npej@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sareer A Fazili)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: UN map sans Kashmir
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:03:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

According to international law, Kashmir is still a disputed territory.  There
is no argument about that. Where the real confusion seems to reign is in India,
not the UN. India has now started to believe it's own propaganda concerning
"Kashmir being an integral part of India."

Unfortunately for the government of India, their views are in the minority. It
will be a great day when the UN moves to once and for all settle the Kashmir
dispute. I am not referring to the annexation of Kashmir to India or Pakistan,
but to the plebiscite of the people of all of Kashmir. Kashmiris are not Indian
or Pakistani. They are Kashmiri. And the UN has agreed with that principle
since partition in 1947 in the manner of it's resolutions on Kashmir.

Sareer A. Fazili
From: shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Nobel Prize & IITs
Date: 3 Oct 92 08:26:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: green.SHUBU.92Oct3022625
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison, CS Dept.


>>>>> In article <1992Oct3.052426.27092@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, mmurali@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Murali Damodaran) writes:

MD> That's great news from the IITs.
MD> This should be a fitting reply to all those SCI sour grapes
MD> who have been indulging in IIT bashing!

The fundamental mistake people are making about IITs and Nobel Prize is 
that the Nobel Prize is given in Basic Sciences and not (in general) in 
Technical Fields.  If you really want to evaluate the effect of IITs, 
look around in the industries.  Remember,  IITs primarily produce Engineers
and not Scientists. 

And FYI, IIT Kanpur is recognized as having one of the best Physics 
departments in India.  

The bottomline is: IIT-ians form a clan by themselves, and they are proud
of it, and at times arrogant.  And whatever people say, IITs produce 
most of the smart engineers in India.  Look around in the US.  There are 
certain departments who have a strong bias towards students from IITs.  
At least, in CS, Wisconsin-Madison, Stanford, Cornell, Berkeley, Texas-Austin,
have a strong bias towards IITs.  So Rakesh Patel & non-IITians - don't
crib.  Face the bitter truth of life.  We know we are the best and we 
are always going to rightfully claim that.  You guys can eat your hearts out.

And before trying to put down the IITs, ask yourself this question first: 
given a chance would you have joined an IIT?

-Shubu

P.S.: Try denying this: the 7 premier Engineering Institutes in India are 
      the 5 IITs, TIFR and IISC Bangalore. 

--
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Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee       University of Wisconsin @ Madison, C.Sc.
Net:shubu@cs.{wisc,utexas}.edu   [W]:(608) 262-1012   [H]:(608) 255-6322
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From: tolia@mixer.ecn.purdue.edu (Anish Arun Tolia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Need contact info for South Asian Gay and Lesbian Association
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:29:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1a772eINN3b4@phad.hsc.usc.edu> banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
>In article <92272.093754U11983@uicvm.uic.edu> Shyamala Parameswaran <U11983@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>>Trikone/Los Angeles
>>Contact person: Kim Singh
>>317.379.9816
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>This dosen't sound right. There is no 317 area code in the LA area.
>
>You either meant the 213 or the new 310 area code.
>
>
>Samit

Yup yure right. 317 is good ol Indiana...home of Purdue University which
incidentally is the only Big Ten school that does not include sexual 
orientation as part of its non discrimination clause. 


Anish
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:33073 rec.music.indian.classical:1728
From: kamala@npac.syr.edu (Kamala Anupindi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: SPICMACAY Concert in Syracuse : Saturday Oct 10
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:00:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University (NPAC)


                 The Society for the Promotion of
                Indian Classical Music And Culture
                   Amongst Youth (SPIC-MACAY)
                           SYRACUSE


                       Proudly Presents
               (as a part of their FALL-FEST '92)

		
                  Carnatic Vocal Recital By


            *****************************************
                S A V I T H R I    R A M A N A N D
            *****************************************

                        Accompanied by

                  Mysore Venkatesh  (Mridangam)
                   Mysore Satish     (Violin)


                             ON
                  Saturday, October 10, 1992  


                            AT
                          7:00 pm
                  Room 500, Hall of Languages
                Syracuse University, Syracuse.

               -----------------------------------
               A D M I S S I O N   I S   F R E E ! 
               -----------------------------------

        
                Details of the other events are:


        -----------------------------------------------------

        October 16th: "Aparajito" Movie by Satyajit Ray
                       7:00 pm, Rm 202, Hall of Languages, S.U
     
        ------------------------------------------------------

        October 23rd: NADASAWARAM Recital (Mambalam Shiva and troupe)
                      7:00 pm, Marshall Auditorium, SUNY-ESF.

        ------------------------------------------------------


        For further information contact:
        Kamala Anupindi (kamala@top.cis.syr.edu) 474-8420
        Paramesh Santanam (psantana@cat.syr.edu) 428-9441
        L.Chandar (lchandar@rodan.acs.syr.edu)   423-3507


****************************************************************
                        Directions
****************************************************************

From 81 N

- Take exit 17
- Left at the stop sign at the end of the ramp
- Right at second light onto Salina street
- Right on second/third light onto East Colvin
        (there is a post-office on the left just before the turn)
- Left on the second light onto Comstock Ave
- Left on second light onto University Place
- Pass a guard booth and one stop sign 
- Just before a second stop sign Schine Students center
- Hall of Language's is opposite the Schine Center


From 81 S

- Take exit 17
- Right at end of ramp onto State Street
- Right at first light onto East Colvin
- Left on the second light onto Comstock Ave
- Left on second light onto University Place
- Pass a guard booth and one stop sign
- Just before a second stop sign Schine Students center
- Hall of Language's is opposite the Schine Center

===============================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Subject: Re: Islam and Science 
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:13:05 GMT


In article <BvF2vF.Lno@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
> In article <1992Sep30.192413.18364@cs.yale.edu> ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
> >
> >In article <BvEG1v.KqA@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
> >
> >
> >You're all totally missing the point.  The Qur'an is a complete book
> >of guidelines.  It is not a book of relativity or a book on
> >NP-completeness, or a book of astronomy.  But it does explain things
> >about the creation of the universe in terms that everyone can
> >understand.  God is telling us how he did it in terms that we can all
> >understand -- what's the point of explaining it only to Carl Sagan?
> >
> >Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) was illiterate.  The vast majority of people
> >don't know much about astrophysics.  That's why the message was put in
> >simpler language.  At the time it was revealed, all the astronomical
> >terms we have now didn't even exist!
> 
> Why was Muhammed (pbuh) chosen?  What qualities did he have that
> God decided to give him so much knowledge.  God must have known
> that he won't be able to understand them, why not choose some one
> who can understand these theories, because to explain them to
> people you have to understand them first.

Since I did not choose Muhammed (pbuh), I cannot tell you what
the specific reasons were for choosing him.  As far as I'm concerned,
an illiterate person could not possibly have come up with something
as beautiful as the Qur'an and all the truths that it contains.
That's what it gives it all the more credibility.

-- Shakil