Newsgroups: bit.listserv.allmusic
Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:51:32 EST
From:         Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny <alevin@TOPCAT.BSC.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Art, Language, and the comp tape

From: Leonard Watkins <ISTS024%UABDPO.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Re: piss metal
>I don't really care what an artist does, i object to gov't funding for stuff
>that is not art....pure and simple Mapplethorpe's work is not art a bottle of
>piss is not art......it's not art...........L.W.
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
                      In your opinion

Actually Len, have you ever seen the "Piss Christ" picture? I think it's pretty
cool. The urine was used as a light filter to produce a neat effect.

As for the Mapplethorpe photos...I can pass on those.

From: gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject: My lonely quest for the ALLMUSIC compilation tape
>>With most of the stuff you'll get
>>reccomendations for here will be much longer. If I had to pick one tune I'd
>>like to see distributed to every member of this list, it'd be Phish's "Union
>>Federal", which happens to be a 25 minute long anything-goes free jam. Now
>>someone will probably reccomend a Miles tune. Take "Gondwana", that's 47
>>minutes. Do you get my point?

>No, I don't get your point. Certainly it doesn't make sense to put a 25 minute
>song on a 90 minute tape, but I don't think it would be too difficult for
>someone to find a song that isn't quite as long to put on the tape. Adam,
>surely through your countless CD splurgefests and hundreds of CDs you can find
>a song around 5 minutes long.

The point is for certain types of music, you aren't going to get a 3 minute
ditty. Tim's gonna have to dig us up some pocket concertos.

>2) The variety of music would be too wide. -----> Super Lame. The whole
>   point of this tape is to expand some people's musical interests and turn
>   them on to something they have not heard before and may like.

That isn't the argument. The argument is that with the wide variety of tastes
that people have here, to please everyone and to be comprehensive, you'll need
a 10 hour tape.

From: crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Ave atque vale (till 1993)
>>*SHUDDER*
>>I actually like some Queensryche and Fates Warning, but don't EVER call them
>>Progressive. I know progressive, and they ain't it.
>
>Well, Adam, the term "Progressive Metal" has been used for at least
>Queensryche for some time (sorry about my ignorance of Fates Warning).
>
>What term would you use to distinguish them from Ratt or Poison?  Or
>don't you think there's a difference worth mentioning?

I'd distinguish Ratt & Poison as pap, er I mean pop metal.
To tell you the truth I'm not sure what I'd define Queensryche as.

My problem is that I can't see how you would ever use the term "Progressive" to
refer to Queensryche.

To me, progressive is a mixture of Rock and Classical w/ a bit of Jazz thrown
in. It's at least 50% keyboard driven, not just your basic electric guitar,
bass, and drum rock band. You'll often find other instruments included too, such
as saxophone, flute, or violin (or a mellotron to imitate one of these
instruments).  The music never stays constant, it is always "progressing"
(get it?).  And no, releasing a concept album does not make you a progressive
band. I think this is why people call Queensryche progressive. Maybe they
should be called "Concept Metal" Actually, lately theey seem to be more hard
rock than what I'd consider to be metal, but that's a whole 'nother argument.

Now that I think about it, there's actually a tune by Fate's Warning called "At
Fate's Hand" that I migh classify as Progressive. It has violin and keyboards
and is rather twisty, turny.

From: Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject: pure fun

>I wanted to wish anyone whose signing off for the holidays a Merry Christmas
>and a Happy New Year!  And to those die-hards like me who'll be hanging around,
>let's get together and e-party and make everyone else feel like they missed out
>on all the fun.  OK?   Who's gonna be around anyhow?

I'll be here with the yuletide beer.

-Adam
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