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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.progressive
Subject: Wish you were here (was: the worst Yes song)
From: ecmtwhk@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Thomas Koenig)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:41:28 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:

>My personal pick for worst Yes song is "Shoot Hig Aim Low". It sounds
>like they recorded it at half speed.

If you have Pink Floyd's "Wish you were here" as an LP, try playing it
at 45 rpm. It's quite funny, and made me wonder where the typical Pink
Floyd sound originated in the first place...
-- 
Thomas Koenig, ecmtwhk@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz, ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
diagram.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker)
Subject: Re: The Outfield
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:21:09 GMT

In article <17l8buINNb3k@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> dlf@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Daniel L Fabrizius) writes:
>In <1992Aug26.193011.42589@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>
>>The Outfield has three albums/cds out.  The first two, Play Deep and
>>Bangin' are really good--what college music had evolved into during the
>>mid to late 80s.  The third effort was called something like Voices of Babylon.
>>It's not quite up to par (or bat, as the case may be), but it's still
>>very recognizable.  I'd like to hear a revival of the old stuff---- 
>
>Actually the Outfield has 5 albums, I believe.  You named the first
>three above.  There is also Diamond Days and then their latest,
>RockEye (Not sure on this name).  I have all of them and there has
>been a definite change in sound.  They also have had a change in
>personel.  I believe they dropped a member if I remember correctly.
>
>-- 
>Danny Fabrizius       dlf@ksuvm.ksu.edu      dlf@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
>                   
>Your life is equipped with a memory function.
>This in no way should substitute for new experience. 

Ok, to set this straight...Yes there are 5 Outfield albums and Rockeye is
their latest.  I had heard that Diamond Days was made under a tight budget
and deadline, and without their drummer, Alan Jackman.  Hence the terrible
sound of it, especially with the drum machine.  I heard these guys doing 
an interview on a station here a couple months ago, and they said Jackman
had left to go have a family and all that stuff - no mention whether he
would be back or not.  On Rockeye, a live drummer is back, and so is 
their sound from the 80's.  Very good tunes.  NBC even played "Winning 
It All" on tv after the Chicago Bulls won the NBA championship.

As for a tour, I have not heard a peep.  I have yet to see these guys and I
hope they do come around.

******************************************************
Scott C. Walker
walkersc@esvax.dnet.dupont.com

+++The few opinions I express are not the opinions of my employer.
"What's settled down?  Settled down is you get married and then you buy a
house.  You can get a wood house, a plaster house or a stucco house.  
Oh, how you can get stucco!"  - David Lee Roth, on Rockline, stolen
from Groucho Marx.
******************************************************
From: zslb0f@trc.amoco.com (Steven L. Boyls)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: What year did Phil Collins join Genesis?
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:39:17 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Originator: zslb0f@gpss31


  I'd like to know ehat year Phil Collins joined Genesis.
I thought it was late 1972 or very early 1973. If it was
after 1973 then can anyone tell me who is playing drums
on the "Genesis Live" L.P. ?

 All replys are welcomed.

 Thanks,
  Steve
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* Steven L. Boyls            "Me, speak for my employer?                       *
* Research Consultant         Surely you jest."                                *
* Amoco Production Co.                                                         *
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot)
Subject: SPRINGSTEEN - Is he going downhill or what?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:00:00 CDT

I assume this will probably get me cooked, but as a former avid
Springsteen fan, I was wondering if I could solicit some other 
opinions here.

I have been following "The Boss" since his first album. It took
some time for me to develop a taste for the music, but when I 
first saw him live in 1975, that was it. I was sold. He had to
be about the best live performer I had ever seen. I have since
bought every one of his albums, wore them out, and then got the
CD's of my favorites.

Since that time, however, I think he had mostly great albums, Born
in the USA probably being my least favorite until these latest two.
I think that was only because it was so overplayed. These latest 2
albums, though, I have not been able to enjoy like most of his
previous work. Is it just me or are there other people out there
who think his well is running dry? (57 channels especially!)

Well, Im now donning my asbestos suit.

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________________
Tom Huot        			       
huot@cray.com 
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu
Subject: Re: Amused to Death
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 08:56:23 EDT
Organization: Illinois State University

Anybody notice the dig at Dave and Co. in the lyric for the title track?
Something about "racing their cars", which is how the remaining Floyds
have been spending their time reciently. Anybody catch any other jabs on
Rog's new album?
From: mbennett@netcom.com (Mike Bennett)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Amused to Death
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:15:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Along these lines, did anyone else notice (or, possibly hallucinate also) the
recycled Floyd themes ?  The barking dogs seemed to be sampled from 'Animals'
(same dog, possibly ?), sub- & backing vocals similar to DSOFM, mob noises from
The Wall and the intro on Track 7 (Late Home Tonight, part II) made me think
of Wish You Were Here.  Not to mention, at various places throughout, it 
sounded like Beck was reaching for a 'Oh look, I can play Gilmour better than
Dave' type of style.

Anyone else notice this, or should I go back to my headphones & 'Meddle' 
8-track ?
From: hash@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov (David C. Hash)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Sammy Hagar: Again!
Date: 2 Sep 1992 18:23:27 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.

In article <BtyFy1.6C8@cs.dal.ca>, niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gordon Niguma)
wrote:
> 
> 
>   Well I'm posting this again for more information regarding Sammy Hagar's
> supposed new release entitled "I Never Said Goodbye". My record stores know
> nothing of it and it supposedly came out on August 18 so it should be around.
> Anyone confirm that it exists or not? If it does what is on it, old stuff or
> new? What's it like? Thanks....
> 
> 					Gord Niguma
> 					niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca

It does indeed exist.  I saw the cd in Sound Warehouse this past weekend. 
It appears to be a re-release of his last solo album, previously entitled
"Sammy Hagar", and it has the same songs, packaging, etc.  I didn't notice
if any of the tracks had been remixed, however.


------------------
David C. Hash                       Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
hash@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov              Houston, TX
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: west@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Brian West)
Subject: Re: Lynyrd Skynyrd - what is their best album?
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:02:48 GMT

>	I would like to start a Lynyrd Skynyrd collection.  But which
>one should I buy FIRST?  - to make sure I like them.  

The two I would suggest are :

"One More From the Road" is double LP live album (I'm pretty sure this
has made it to CD.)  They were a great live band (with Ronnie) and
this album contains live versions of tunes from their first 4 studio
albums.

"The Definitive Lynyrd Skynyrd Collection" is their 3 CD box set (an
instant collection.)

Brian West
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My Astral-Projection did this, if you get my drift.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:21:39 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Billy Squire lyric

What's the part say in the song "Everybody Wants You" (I think that's the title
of it) right after he says "You got your glory, you paid for it all".
It's like "(part I don't get) loneliness and alcohol".

Boy this is really bugging me. Please reply by e-mail if you know what the heck
he's saying. Thanks.

Sime Sime everywhere a Sime
From: alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Dave Alexander)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Axl Rose: a neophyte asks
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:17:14 GMT
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies, Minneapolis, MN

In article <1992Aug27.221445.16842@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, smustain@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike Mustaine) writes:
> 
> -- 
> Mike Mustaine                       |"What is the air velocity of an
> Starving College Student (tm)       | unladen swallow?"
> smustain@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  |"What do you mean - African or European?"
> stang@cis.ohio-state.edu            |"Uh, I don't know...AIIIIEEEEE"
> 
Mike, are you any relation to Dave?
From: kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu (SunCat)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: Sound and Picture?
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:26:16 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

Seems I don't know much about the WAIS but, unless I'm really misled, it's  
a service for keyword searches of textfile archives.
Question: How to get gifs or sounds in some significant fashion?
Please Email as well as post as I do not read this group often.
ADVthanksANCE
=========SunCat++++     | kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu
"If every tool, when ordered, or even of its own accord, could do
 the work that befits it ... then there would be no need either of
 apprentices for the master workers or slaves for the lords."
 --Aristotle
_Scientific Quotations: The Harvest of a Quiet Eye_ A. L. MacKay
From: elascurn@daimi.aau.dk (Lars R{der Clausen)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Dreams, yeah right!]
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:14:04 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

mcsdc1jcwj@dct.ac.uk writes:

>In article <92239.144732STHARRY@MIAMIU.BITNET>, STHARRY@MIAMIU.BITNET (Who do you think?) writes:
>> People think that dreams are so important.  Don't they realize how weak they
>> are to make a major life decision based upon there dreams.  They need more
>> concrete  oporational thinking to base a decision upon.  They need to get help
>> Although I do think that dreams are there for a reason <I just think  people
>> make too much of a dream.
>> --
>> Thoughts of no consequence,
>> Steve (a.k.a. ?)

>Yes , you're right . There is no way that I can see that dreams can possibly
>foretell of the future . Too much emphasis is placed on dreams by the
>weak-minded , but then that is also the case with religion and other such . 
>Me , I'm in it for fun .

Who ever said anything about foretelling the future? Getting to know how you
is yourself right NOW is enough, and that's where dreams can help you.

-Lars Clausen
--
        The computer menu:           | Lars Clausen - | I wonder if ANY part of
2 bits - a tayste 16 bits - a playte |   Human being  |  your body is NOT an
4 bits - a nybble 32 bits - a dinner |    Programmer  |  erogenous zone now?
8 bits - a byte   64 bits - an orgi  |     Roleplayer |      -My girlfriend :-D
From: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Richard Beckett)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Jumbo on eggs !?
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:56:52 GMT
Reply-To: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Bristol, UK


	Hi Dreamers,
	  
	Would anyone care to try putting a meaning to my latest dream ?

	I was flying a Jumbo Jet, and was getting ready to land at an 
	airport in Hawii (is there one ?), when my instruments told me
	that the landing gear was stuck and would not open.
	I radioed (sp?) Hawii air traffic control to advise them of the 
	situation and asked for a runway full of foam, fire crews etc.
	On making my final approach I could see that they had put out a dozen 
	eggs at the beginning of the runway for me to land on !
	I remember thinking "This is a Jumbo Jet, how do they expect me to 
	land it on a dozen eggs ?" Unfortunately I then woke up, very 
	dissapointed because I wanted to see how the dream ended.

	Cheers,


		RIK


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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Dreams, yeah right!]
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:35:31 GMT

Who do you think? <STHARRY@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:

>People think that dreams are so important.  Don't they realize how weak they
>are to make a major life decision based upon their dreams.

  Ha!  Well, if my dreams didn't relate so closely to real life AND provide
some really helpful hints on how to deal with those life situations, I might
actually agree with you :-)
  In any case, I have yet to make an major decisions of my own based on my
dreams.  I need to become more proficient at interpreting my dreams before I
will trust what they are saying.  HOWEVER, as yet I have not come across a
dream that has given obviously bad advice!
  Now, I'm no guru on dream interpretation.  But lately I have become more
convinced that my dreams are not just random thought processes.  I have had
reasonable success at knowing how to go about unravelling their message,
hampered only by my inability to sustain good dream recall over a period of
time.  Recently I have been able to interpret almost *all* of the dreams that I
have had a good memory of.  And they all made *perfect* sense once I realised
that I actually knew what the symbols were suppose to represent all along.
  That's the real point I want to make right now: dream symbols are CONSCIOUSLY
RECOGNISABLE.  They are *not* selected by the subconscious or unconscious.
Successful dream interpretation relies on not reading too deeply in a dream,
but instead applying the meanings that seem to be *obvious* to you.  Do that,
and you should find that dreams unravel themselves so much easier.
  A second point to make: most of my dreams relate to *immediate* problems in
my life, and I see no reason why that would not be true of other people.  Often
the dream I recall when I wake up will be discussing a problem that was on my
mind when I went to sleep!  Certainly they will normally be related to problems
I was concerned about the day before, or in recent days.

  So in summary, I disagree that believing that dreams have a meaning is
reading too much into them.  On the contrary, I think that the reason why
people have trouble understanding their dreams is that they imagine that the
meaning must be an *exotic* one.  Instead, I believe that most dreams relate
very closely to our everyday lives, and provide us with a wealth of useful
information, once we realise they are *not* suppose to be "tricky". 

  Philip Stephens
  Labtam Australia Pty Ltd
  philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Dreams, yeah right!
From: jtulli@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:33:46 EDT
 <92244.100821STHARRY@MIAMIU.BITNET> <1992Aug31.190430.26799@daimi.aau.dk>
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Aug31.190430.26799@daimi.aau.dk>, elascurn@daimi.aau.dk (Lars R{der Clausen) writes:
> STHARRY@MIAMIU.BITNET (Who do you think?) writes:
> 
>>I agree with you.  I feel that dreams are just for fun.  That was
>>the basic  point I was trying to make.
>>--
>>Democ (aka Steve)
>> 
> 
> Well, who can argue with logic like that? :-)

i think i can, and whether or not i can, i will.
i think dreams are more than just for fun, although fun is one possible thing
that a dream can be.  but have you ever had a nightmare?  those are not fun, at
least not to me, so if dreams are just for fun and i don't have fun in
nightmares, it would be logical that i would not have nightmares, right?
also, many people report going to bed with a problem and waking up with the
solution, likely as a result of the dreams they had.  dreams, therefore can
provide insight into our waking lives.
i also believe people are capable of dreaming together and, although unlike the
out-of-body state wherein people can sometimes perceive the same surroundings
in the same way, people tend to interperet their surroundings much more
subjectively in dreams, so two people (consciousnesses) can be together but
remember the dream differently.  in other words, dreams are just as real as our 
waking lives.  my opinion, of course, but i like it :)  i'm planning to conduct
an experiment or two along these lines, and i'll let people know what the
results are, assuming i still have an account :)  should take three-six months,
depending on the procedures here and whether i can get funding.

Jude
From: schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: A recursive lucid dream...
Summary: It's true, I swear it
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:17:38 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL


Ok, I really had this one, just a week ago.  I think it came out of reading
the discussions here on the Net about lucid dreams...

I dreamt that I was dreaming a dream where I knew that I knew
that I was dreaming in the dream that I was dreaming.  And in my dream's
dream, I thought, "Dang, now that I know that I'm dreaming I'm going to
wake up out of this dream!"  And I did- through both levels.  Needless to
say, I woke up really confused.

Oftentimes I've had dreams where I knew I was dreaming, and even sometimes
I've had dreams where I dreamt the disappointing thought that since I
knew it, it meant that I was going to wake up.  This is the first time I had a
dream about it.  It really made me feel weird when I woke up; for a
few minutes I wasn't quite sure where reality was.  Guess I'm still not
sure... :-)
-Mike
From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Weird Dreams/ can you interpret?
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:15:51 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

I've had a couple of really *strange* dreams in the past year (and
they are in fact the only dreams I've had in the past year that I
really remember anything about) that I was hoping someone might know
something about interpreting (and if not, you can enjoy the
weirdness).

1: I'm at a party at a huge, fancy house/mansion.  I go out to sort of
a balcony thing, like so:

house  |
is     |========O <---"balcony"
here   |   ^----------walkway

An old friend of mine (female) is there.  She says something (I don't
remember what), shows me a handfull (about three of four) audio
cassette tapes, and then gives me a big hug and kiss.  That's all I
remember.

2: This one got really surreal.  I woke up in my dorm room to a mix of
Bowling Green, Kentucky (I knew this because I walked through BG
streets later in this dream), and somewhere in Florida (I just knew this,
for some reason).  The part I remember before the walk and the only
part that wasn't me talking to other people and otherwise being
normal, was this: looking out my 6th floor window, seeing a swimming
pool area right outside, complete with males and females in various
stages of dress.  The weirdest part: a woman, nude, steps up to the
window to reach something above it (my window was at ground level for
some reason), and, well, "it" formed a cartoon like mouth and said
something to me (sorry, I don't remember what; I didn't even remember
right after the dream).

Please don't flame me for this; I'm completely and utterly serious
about these dreams.  Can anyone here help with interpreting, or is my
subconcious just really sick?

Thanks,
-- 
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PhoneNet: (502)745-4246	  (Bowling Green, KY)  | eat the HELL out of it!
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From: star@ut-emx.uucp (Susan Catharine Starrett)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: 23 August dream
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:53:28 GMT



I was trying to get home when I realized I didn't have any money
for cab fare so I started walking. The street was dark and it
was going to be a long walk. 

I came to a house that was more like a saloon (or at least there
was a big party going on). I went inside and found my mother
who said she would give me a ride home. But then I lost sight of her 
and after going around the house on the yard (and through the people)
and back into house, I still couldn't find her.

I went out to the front of the house again when a man approached
me and started kissing me on the neck. I didn't like it and I didn't
like him and kept trying to push him away. He was a nuisance more
than a threat but I didn't want anyone to see and think I was
involved with this man.
Newsgroups: alt.dreams,alt.consciousness
From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Re: questions
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:40:11 GMT

lagus@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Krista Lagus) writes:

>I have a dream symbol catalogue and it has helped me to see the rather
>blurry and many-sided symbolism of dreams. Sometimes the explanations
>of the book are helpful to give ideas of what the dream might have
>meant. But I wouldn't use it as a dictionary.

In spite of what has been foregoing here... can anyone suggest the names
and authors of books on dream analysis?  I am unfamiliar with the
particular term "dream catalogue" but I assume it is simply a catalogue
of dream symbols and their interpretations.  Most of the books I have
seen of this type use very archaic interpretations which are largely
irrelevant today.

Please email replies since I do not read these groups often.

Thanks

Rob

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Rob Geraghty                         | Time, flowing like a river
robg@durian.citr.oz.au               | Time, beckoning me
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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Dreams, yeah right!]
From: Who do you think? <STHARRY@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 10:08:21 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

I agree with you.  I feel that dreams are just for fun.  That was
the basic  point I was trying to make.
--
Democ (aka Steve)
From: pjm@cshl.org (Pat Monardo)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Jumbo on eggs !?
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:27:47 GMT
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Labs

In article <1992Aug27.125652.14656@hplb.hpl.hp.com> rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com writes:
>
>	Hi Dreamers,
>	  
>	Would anyone care to try putting a meaning to my latest dream ?
>
>	I was flying a Jumbo Jet, and was getting ready to land at an 
>	airport in Hawii (is there one ?), when my instruments told me
>	that the landing gear was stuck and would not open.
>	I radioed (sp?) Hawii air traffic control to advise them of the 
>	situation and asked for a runway full of foam, fire crews etc.
>	On making my final approach I could see that they had put out a dozen 
>	eggs at the beginning of the runway for me to land on !
>	I remember thinking "This is a Jumbo Jet, how do they expect me to 
>	land it on a dozen eggs ?" Unfortunately I then woke up, very 

maybe they were jumbo eggs? (jumbo is an American "egg" size, i think,
i never eat eggs anymore) anyway, i had a dream where i am in a jet
and things go wrong. i resolved it by doing a nice 360 loop and
landing on the water which happened to appear. you see, it all
in the attitude!

-- 
-- Pat Monardo
-- pjm@cshl.org
Newsgroups: alt.dreams