HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: meyer@netcom.com (Peter Meyer)
Subject: Re: Temporary Email Address
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:06:52 GMT

In article <Bzz252.HpF@well.sf.ca.us> gaile@well.sf.ca.us (Gail Edwards) writes:
>My temporary email address for 12/28-1/4 is gaile@well.sf.ca.us.
>
>My regular Internet host bit the dust sometime before Xmas and is not likely
>to be back in commission until next week.  Sorry for any inconvenience.

Inconvenience????

Gee, why not just give us your phone number too?  How about your address,
then we can all come over and have a party?
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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Go Ask Alice
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:59:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.181054.2841@EE.Stanford.EDU> bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) writes:
>In article <11759@arccs1.fed.FRB.GOV> m1del01@fed.frb.gov (David E. Lebow) writes:
>>In the Jefferson Airplane song White Rabbit, the phrase "Go Ask Alice" keeps popping up.  Does anyone know what this is alluding to?  Alice in Wonderland?  Alice Kramden?
>

Or! Alice B. Tokeless:-) :-) :-) Confusion reigns in r.m.gd:-)

>Definitely Alice Kramden. It's expressing a drug sentiment, see.

A drug sentiment? Is this a drug one is sentimental about? Well,
here's mine, ORANGE Barrels and Mescaline:-)

"Praise the Lord and pass the mescaline" Willis Allen Ramsey
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From: "X[*******]X" <castro@alm.admin.usfca.edu>
Subject: Herb Caen on Jerry
Reply-To: castro@alm.admin.usfca.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:59:01 GMT

In today's SF Chronicle Herb Caen column:

"Say it isn't so:  Would the beloved Jerry Garcia dump his longtime
ladyfriend,  Manasha (the mother of his 3-yr-old dghtr), and take
off for Hawaii with a new inamorata?  That's the way the Deadheads
are telling it...."
From: mjwagner@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Mike Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dreadful Grapes ??
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:18:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis) writes:
: from and I guess that's my question.  Some piece where Jerry and Bob are
: talking and remembering back to the days when they played in a band
: together, if memory served them right it was the Dreadful Grapes.  Then at

Hi Barb,
I have it in its entirety as filler on a Passaic show from about '78 or
so and i'll put it on your tapes I am sending you ;)

Mike
From: kmalmber@ub.d.umn.edu (kenneth malmberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: MOM GOING TO FIRST SHOW
Date: 5 Jan 1993 17:38:50 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

Well, it's finally going to happen.  After 8 years telling my Mom that a good
dose of the Dead would clear things right for her, she'll be on the bus as of
March 11th.  Thanks to Jeff Lester, I had a pretty good idea when the band
would be in chicago next.  So when my mom said that she wanted to know the
next time the Dead` were in Chicago, I immediately replied.  Only this time
she took the bait.  I told her I would get her tickets through the mail
order, and she decided to give a pair to a couple other teachers at her
school (incidently the other couples daughter is a head as well).  She made
her hotel reservations at the Best Western acrooss the street from the
Horizon.  Now she calls me often asking me "are my tix here yet?" 

Anyway I'm finding this whole situation a little funny to deal with...I think
my mom may go gor the scene big time.

Anyone have any stories advice etc.?

PS Yeah she asked me to senf her some herb as well.

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From: petert@zk3.dec.com
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Home of Jerry Garcia
Reply-To: petert@zk3.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:44:15 GMT

| "It's a little cold for a swim but there was real estate
|  lady Esther Skolnick paddling around in Jerry Garcia's
|  Olympic-sized pool in San Rafael.  Esther was showing
|  Jerry's place, on the market for $1.4 million, when she
|  tripped over a Deadhead and kersplash..."

Whoa!  Jerry's got an Olympic-sized pool?  A whole 
100m x 50m?  Damn, I'd like to have one of those in 
my backyard.  Of course, that would BE my backyard
at that size.  I guess he needs a little something to 
practice his scuba diving in.  Heck, I'd settle for a
25 yard lap pool.  Now I'm going to have to kick myself
for never learning how to play the guitar.  Maybe
it's not too late.....
			Later,
			PeterT
From: davef@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Dave Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Kinda a GD siting on the Ben Stiller Show
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:17:10 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


FYI:
I think the theme music from this show is by Dweezil Zappa.
-- 
Dave Fischer    davef@gandalf.rutgers.edu
"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell"
                                               - Edward Abbey
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From: J Ross MacKay <ross@gummo.grdl.noaa.gov>
Subject: Inaugural Rumour
Reply-To: ross@gummo.grdl.noaa.gov
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:19:33 GMT


My non-DeadHead Neighbor, who is working on the Inaugural Committee, gave
me this info.  She said that it was NOT verified by a 2nd source. 

  Member's of the Grateful Dead will be playing at the DC District
  Inaugural Ball on Wednessday Night at the DC Armory.

  The Democrats have many districts, and there will be ten differant
  District Inaugural Balls that night.  If you get confused, listen to the
  music play;-)

It doesn't look like they will be playing at one of the events to be
broadcast by Disney.  Now we need to find a Lobbyist willing to be wired
with a DAT deck.
--
                                   Internet:  ross@gummo.grdl.noaa.gov
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From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Hotels around Rosemount
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:07:29 GMT

freemanm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Freeman) writes:

>I was wondering if there are any hotels around the Rosemount Horizon
>in Chicago within walking distance.  Thanks in advance.

You might try ...
Travelodge O'Hare
3003 S. Mannheim, Des Plaines  708/296-5541

O'Hare Mariott
Higgins & River Road (about a mile away)
Rosemont, 312/693-4444

There's more but they're a little bit further.  As I recall, a public
bus runs to the Rosemont Horizon from some the other farther O'Hare/Rosemont
area hotels.  You could call the PACE/Regional Transportation Autority (RTA)
at 1-800-972-7000.
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From: Bill Sloan <wls1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Paul Schafer w/ the Dead?
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 12: 45:36 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: wls1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:30:07 GMT

In article <C0E6F2.K7u@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> neil covey,
ncovey@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu writes:
>and Kenny Aronoff (drummer with John Mellencamp) would play.  I'd say
>that anytime Jerry and Bruce get together that the odds are good that a
>certain late-night talk-show bandleader might show up.  Did anyone

Wow,  Paul Schafer w/ Jer and Bob!!!  Maybe they'd do up Rooster ala
Brent.  
I can just hear Paul singing "Little Red Rooster you ain't SHIT to me"

NNNOOOOTTTT!!!!!   Gilled, fished in, suckers!!!!!!

Sorry, I just drank a coke, I'm having a sugar rush.
We now return you back to your jobs.
From: pcerra@farad.elee.calpoly.edu (Paul Cerra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: last setlists?
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:59:05 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo

In article <7288@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> 6500f10@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Todd) writes:
>
>I've been away from the net for a while, and would like
>someone to post the setlists for the last two Oakland shows.
>
>Thanks,
>       Todd

Here you go:


12/16/92 Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA   

Feels Like a Stranger 
Brown Eyed Women 
The Same Thing 
Loose Lucy
Memphis Blues 
Row Jimmy 
Let It Grow

Shakedown Street 
Samson and Delilah 
Ship of Fools
Playing in the Band-> 
Drums-> 
Space-> 
Dark Star->
Watchtower-> 
Stella Blue-> 
Good Lovin'  
*Casey Jones


12/17/92 Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA   

Touch Of Grey 
Walkin' Blues 
Loser 
Queen Jane
So Many Roads 
The Music Never Stopped

Scarlet Begonias-> 
Fire On The Mountain 
Long Way To Go Home
Corina-> 
Uncle John's Band-> 
Playin' Reprise-> 
Drums-> 
Space->
The Last Time-> 
Here Comes Sunshine-> 
Throwing Stones->
Not Fade Away  
*Baba O'Riley-> 
 Tomorrow Never Knows

Paul J. Cerra                          |  "Such a long, long time to be gone
Computer Science Department            |      and a short time to be there."
Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo              |
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From: ADJS000 <ADJS@nmumus.bitnet>
Subject: WALL OF SOUND DIAGRAMS
Reply-To: ADJS@nmumus.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:31:40 GMT

As a member of the fan club back in the seventies (overseas we were, and
the mail from San Rafael was wonderfully received) we were sent some
interesting novelties (stickers, postcards), and a blueprint diagram
(with spec sheet) of the Wall Of Sound. I've been listening to some WOS
tapes recently, and describing the look of the wall to a friend...
unfortunately I can't find a picture of it anywhere (let alone that long
ago blueprint and spec sheet). This bugged me quite a bit... I thought
that a photo of the set-up would make a wonderful mural-sized poster for
the office. I suppose my friend would catch on at that point. Any leads
to items like these pertaining to the WOS?
Thanks, Jim S.
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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: 1992 - The Net.Year in Review
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 23:33:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.220649.11122@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com> gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards) writes:

>
>Yup, one big happy family .. Uncle Fester, Morticia, Thing!

I guess at times we may not look real pretty, but love is deeper
than outer apperances:-) :-) :-)  

One of these days, I'm gonna finally get to meet a few of the family,
one of these days.

Still stuck in the "Bad Lands of New Mexico", but I love it:-) :-)
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From: telmerc+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chris I. Telmer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: GDH in Pittsburgh
Date: 4 Jan 93 05:56:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MfG5szm00WBOE1r61o
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


A couple of minor bones to pick with our local GDH broadcaster, 
WDUQ in Pittsburgh (which is run out of Duquesne University and is 
the local PBS affiliate).

1.  Recently, they've taken to fading into a song and announcing that
    "partial funding for the GDH is provided by <insert some tye- dye 
    shop on the South Side>".  Most annoying for the discriminating
    FM taper.

2.  At least twice now they've cancelled the week's GDH in favour of some
    other (lame IMHO) programming, thus interupting the natural order 
    of things (read:  cause me to miss the second set of a show I'm
    taping).  

Anyone else here in Pittsburgh who finds this annoying, please call 
WDUQ and let them know.  Hopefully you are a subscriber (as I am) and
should obvisouly mention that.  Sorry I can't rememeber the name of the
small business that gets the the plug (smack in the middle of NYE 
72, Round & Round!!):  a few calls to these guys might get them to ask
WDUQ not to interupt the music and instead broadcast the plug either
before or after the hour (although this is supposed to be commercial-
free radio?).  

WDUQ seems to value the GDH audience.  They mention the GDH frequently 
in promo spots / funding requests, and should hopefully be fairly 
responsive to some constructive feedback.

Cheers........Chris Telmer (telmerc@andrew.cmu.edu)

ps:  anyone know what the deal is with NYE 91/92?  I never did get 
a tape and noted the absence of any tunes from this show from the 
recent San-Fran broadcast of the "best of Grateful Dead NYE" stuff.
I assume there was a show, given the amount of stuff written about
the lack of a 92/93 NYE show.  If someone could post a set-list 
that'd be great.  Better yet, if someone has a tape I'd be 
happy to send my list along and see if we can work out a 
trade.   Thanks.......CT
Xref: sparky rec.music.gdead:22708 rec.music.phish:6500
From: gt1054a@prism.gatech.EDU (JOHNSTON,JERRY WAYNE)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead,rec.music.phish
Subject: Amiga Users
Keywords: none
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:35:03 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology




	Sorry again for the waste of space!

It seems that I've lost a good bit of my mail over the holidays.  If anyone
has sent me mail concerning Amiga software (I was talking with 3 or 4 people before 
the holidays)	please resend it and I'll get in touch with you tonight or
tomorrow.



							Thanks,


									Jay
.

-- 
JOHNSTON,JERRY WAYNE
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Internet: gt1054a@prism.gatech.edu
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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: 1992 - The Net.Year in Review
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 19:12:11 GMT

In article <93005.084745MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:
>
>I think we are all glad to see that Louie is back, right :-) :-) :-).

Oh yeah! It's been way to quite for the last few weeks. I was starting
to think maybe everyone had been converted into the "confidential
society of the wheel".

It's good to see things getting back to normal:-) :-) :-)

"No one wins, it's a war of man"  Neil Young
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From: steve@vigsun1.vigsun1.larc.nasa.gov (Steve Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Terrapin Tapes Changes Policy
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:31:02
Organization: /home/vigyan/steve/.organization
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In-reply-to: Tom Thumb's message of Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:13:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.161313.1829@miki.pictel.com> Tom Thumb writes:

   He also wants everyone to know that he has changed his policy
   about the 5% discount (AGAIN, and HOPEFULLY for the LAST TIME)
   that he has not been granting all people who have a userid/address/
   node on the net...thus, let me PARAPHRASE What he said to me about this:

   Basically, Ken wanted to give the 5% discount to those people who
   actually paid for the access to the net....well, before this 


Gee, it seems to me that he would be more than happy to give anyone
a 5% discount if he got business... If my man is working on a 1-4%
markup or something he must be quite an achiever :-)

Steve

:-O, thats steve@vigsun1.larc.nasa.gov for Ken ;->
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From: meyer@netcom.com (Peter Meyer)
Subject: Re: I'm a Hog for that seat baby
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:11:57 GMT

In article <4462@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <1993Jan04.212340.11295@news.mentorg.com> sbiederman@slipknot.mentorg.com (Steve Biederman) writes:
>>One thing I've thought might work for New Year's (where the competition for
>>seats is absolutely BEYOND BELIEF; [...] Comments?
>
>	After NYE last year I promised myself that the next time I went
>to a GA show and _all_ the seats were already "occupied" by the time I went
>in I'd just pick one out and sit in it, and deal with any bad vibes as
>they do or do not result.  I've spent one too many shows squished on the 
>floor while the stands were empty save for shoes, hats, scarves, and sweat-
>shirts.

If you aren't big enough to defend yourself against these seat hogging
pricks, just pack some iron in with you.  Shove an automatic weapon in
there faces when they object to your sitting in these "saved" seats.
That will solve the problem with bad vibes and all.  Better yet,
do the fuckers a favor and blow them away.  I doubt anyone would
notice a few extra dead hippies at a dead show anyway.
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From: "brian s. zaff" <BZAFF@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil>
Subject: New Mac StartupScreen - DeadHeads at Work
Reply-To: BZAFF@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:29:43 GMT

Hey Now,

   In case you've grown bored with the "Music Never Stops" startupscreen or 
missed that offer, i've just uploaded a new Mac StartupScreen - "DeadHeads at
Work", and would be happy to e-mail it to anyone who's interested.  The
StartupScreen was created using Canvas 3.0, but does not require having Canvas
on your system to work. The file's been BinHex-ed but not compressed so all
you'll need to do is decode it using Stuffit or some such application once
you've down-loaded it to your Mac. I'd also be willing to put it on disk for 
anyone who doesn't have their Mac tied-in to the outside world.

    ...drop me a line if you're interested and i'll mail you the startupscreen 
and a canned set of instructions for it...and if you don't here from me in a 
day or two, drop me a reminder 'cause i probabily spaced/misplaced your 
request.

ppppppps,
   -brian

	Internet: bzaff@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil
		  bzaff@desire.wright.edu
From: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (E. Nay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dead @ Monterey
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:35:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (E. Nay)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, x88keon@gw.wmich.edu () says:

>
>I recently bought the Monterey Festival box set.  In the book inside it shows
>the Dead playing, and then on the same page it says "some artists chose not to
>be included for (whatever reasons)".
>
>What songs did they play?  Anybody know why they aren't on this recording?
>
>--x88keon@gw.wmich.edu
>
>
>

No way, they didnt *choose* to be included?? Bogus, that's got one of those
classic Cold, Rain & Snow's if i recall correctly, that amped-up-78-rpm CRS
sound that makes ya bounce off walls...maybe that's why:), think there's 
another tune or two on the tapes i have from Monterey Pop, a pigpen song but
cant member what...hmmm
-- 
It left a smoking crater of my mind I'd like to blown away
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Subject: Re: 48 Hours Anti-LSA Propaganda
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:44:48 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company


In article <1993Jan7.200235.8999@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, henniss@Csli.Stanford.EDU
(Kathryn Henniss) says:
>
>So where are the documentarists with good media connections
>who know the other side of the story when we need them?  Don't
>you think it would be just as sensational (and hence, just as
>good for tv ratings) to have a whole hour during prime-time in
>which they interviewed LOTS of people who have done acid and
>who (surprise, surprise) hold down jobs, make lots of money,
>create important things, contribute to American
>education/art/industry/politics?

Excuse me Kat.  But if I remember correctly we are living in America.
NOT DISNEYLAND.  The people who make that television show are corporate
Americans.  They are people who are *NOT* interested in showing you what
is really true (although I'm sure they would like you to believe that they
do).  They are there to get as many people watching that television show
as possible.  The more people that watch that show, the more they can
charge for those commercial minutes.  If they show something that a major
American company such as an Anheiser Busch or Miller Brewing (or both)
feels threatened by, then those companies may stop advertising with that
network, and they loose that money.  If they report something that a large
number of Americans find unpopular.  Then they may loose ratings points and
have to sell the commercial time at a cheaper rate.  ABC, CBS & NBC are NOT
there to provide us with any service.  They are there to put $$$ in the
shareholders pockets.  I think when viewing these programs, you should look
at the interest of the storyteller.  Then think about who's point of view
you are really seeing.

Joe Doheny



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From: sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Ernst_Guy)
Subject: Elvis stamp
Reply-To: sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:37:15 GMT



Maybe in 60 or 70 years our kids can get "Jerry" stamps !!

Or maybe a whole series with stealies ??


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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Belated Dead sighting... Holiday Bowl
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:43:10 GMT

In article <1it1f0INNabd@shelley.u.washington.edu> pkemp@byron.u.washington.edu (Paul Kemp) writes:
>I was watching the Holiday Bowl (before New Year's) between U of Oregon and Wake
>Forest.  The game was played in Shervepoint, LA.  There was a huge banner with
>a SYF emblem and the words "Dead Heads" hanging on the sideline.  Does anyone
>know if these were local (LA) heads, dead-heads from Oregon (my guess) or heads
>from Wake Forest (NOT...)?
>pk
>

Well, any dead heads from oregon who would go all the way to lousiana just
to see a 2 bit bowl game and hang a SYF on the Independence Bowl seem to
have just a little TOO much of the travelin jones. I would guess local heads
myself, tho wake heads, despite your NOT (how original! did you think of it
yourself?) are a possibility.