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From: cs65xaq@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Allan Carhart)
Newsgroups: sdnet.rideshare
Subject: department of redundancy department
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:01:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


oops, it looks like in my last message when i said that thing about
classes, I didn't proofread it very well, and wound up saying the
same thing twice. Sorry about that---time is running short now, so
it hardly matters.

Anyway, just call me the head of the department of redundancy
department!
From: cs65xaq@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Elvis)
Newsgroups: sdnet.rideshare
Subject: NEED A RIDE
Date: 19 Nov 92 06:24:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Sorry, this message is going to sound just like all the other
messages on this newsgroup.
I need a ride from UCSD to L.A. For thanksgiving
I'd like to leave on Wednesday...I have three classes.
one 10-11, one 1-2, and one 3-4.
I can't miss the 10-11 class, so the earliest I could leave is 11
but preferably after 4:00 p.m.
I have a class at 10-11 that I can't miss, and a class 1-2 and one
3-4 that I can miss if necessary (so 11 a.m. is the earliest I could
leave)
and I'd like to return on Sunday. any time.
The house I'm going to is in West L.A., on Wilshire blvd, just
a few miles east of the Beverley Hills border. (Not far from LaBrea
or highland---on Wilshire)
Actually, if I can get within a few miles from that, I can get a cab
to the house...I am willing to share the driving & split gas
50/50 or whatever you think is reasonable. 
As far as sharing the driving, I can drive stick & automatic,
and am used to small (and medium sized) cars


Let me know if it looks like your plans will fit with what I've
described---as far as luggage, all I'm bring is a bookbag--I pack
*REALLY* light--so space shouldn't be a problem.

send me mail on here cs65xaq@sdcc8.ucsd.edu
or give me a call 558-7447 (mail is probably more reliable to get in
touch with me)
talk to you all later
---
-allan c.
(p.s...anyone going up to the bay area for christmas who wants to
share the trip?)
From: dan@ttisms.com
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: San Diego Game Clubs?
Date: 22 Nov 92 14:41:51 PDT
Organization: Touch Technologies Inc., San Diego CA

Hi,

Anyone know where in San Diego to Join:

  o  chess club

  o  scrabble club

Thanks,

Dan E.
Newsgroups: sdnet.general,sdnet.wanted
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Music Shop?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:50:50 GMT

Anyone know of a good place in SD to shop for a synthesizer and/or
piano?  I checked out New World, but that was a disappointment.
-- 
Anything that is good and useful is made of chocolate.
Newsgroups: sdnet.general,sdnet.wanted
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Music Shop?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:54:11 GMT

rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>Anyone know of a good place in SD to shop for a synthesizer and/or
>piano?  I checked out New World, but that was a disappointment.

Why yes, after looking around a while I found AES in Mirimar to be
quite excellent.
-- 
I'm a Militant Agnostic - I don't know and you don't either...
From: jphaid@ruby.cts.com (JP Haid)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: Re: testing
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:49:13 PST
Organization: Go Ruby Network

mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:

> testing
> 
> --
>      Mike, WB6WUI   //   INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com   //   GEnie: SLIC

Alright!
Hi guys, just wanted to let you know that another visitor is on the net.. 
(me!)...JP

jphaid@ruby.cts.com (JP Haid)
From: tinkess@cambridge (Randall Tinkess)
Newsgroups: sdnet.eats
Subject: Re: Hops
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:24:08 GMT

tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan) writes:

  [Tom's accurate review of HOPS deleted for brevity.]

>Anyone else have comments?


I found Hops to be a very good micro-brewery i.e. their beer was very tasty
but they seem to be trying too hard for a "yuppie" atmosphere. For the
prices of there main menu you'd expect a classier place, like you said
their fine dining was a little lacking.

But still, I recommend trying their brews. And if you live close by I 
also recommend that you invest in the 1/2 gallon take-home jug of the 
home brew of your choice. Each return trip you can get a refill for a mere
$5.00.

Just some thoughts,

Randy
-- 
Randall Tinkess                                          Mitchell International
tinkess@mitchell.com                                     9889 Willow Creek Road
(619) 578-6550 x 6458                                       San Diego CA, 92131

Newsgroups: sdnet.eats
From: scatter@vulcan.Berkeley.EDU (McLauglin)
Subject: Re: Hops
Reply-To: scatter@s3mercury.scubed.com
Organization: S-CUBED Division of Maxwell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:14:10 GMT


In article <40980@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas
Marvan) writes:
|> Went to the new (a month old or so) restaurant/bar at UTC called
|> Hops.  It was OK, although I think slightly expensive for the food
|> qaulity and service.  It was kind of a cross between a swanky bar
|> and posh restaurant, so the atmosphere was unusual.  Both the kick
|> your shoes off scene you'd expect at a bar, and the intimacy of an
|> expensive restaurant were indeed lacking.

It is more expensive than the typical brew-pub, but you do not have to spend
alot.  Their pizza's are good and under $10.  The appetizers are also large
and you can make a meal of one or two of them.  However, like most brew-pubs
you do not go there for the food but to sample their brew.  My wife has been
there a couple of times and likes the unfiltered wheat beer.  My first
time last night, I tried the wheat beer and their rasberry beer. 
Yes, rasberry beer!  They throw some rasberries into the beer at some time
in the process.  With a litle residual sugar content, it has a fruity
taste, not for the die-hard bitter drinker, but good for a change.  The
wheat beer is very Bavarian, and I recommend it.  

Some of my wife's freinds like the five samples that they put together 
for $5.50.  A little larger than the usual samplers.

Hops, is a high end brew-pub trying to be a little too trendy, but I must
confess I liked the modern atmosphere and the service was excellent.
San Diego is rapidly getting quite a selection of brew-pubs.  I have tried 
three of them, and I would like to hear other opinions.

!Keith L. McLaughlin (scatter)
!e-mail: scatter@vulcan.scubed.com, scatter@seismo.CSS.GOV
!phone: 619-587-8436, 619-453-0060, FAX 619-755-0474
!snail-mail: S-CUBED, Div. Maxwell Laboratories, POB 1620, La Jolla, CA 92038
Newsgroups: sdnet.eats
From: jbn@photon.com (Joe Naiman)
Subject: Banquet facilities without mndatory minimum order
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:17:13 GMT


As the Area 10 governor of Toastmasters, I have two clubs seeking new
locations.

Both have been dinner clubs and have had membership problems stemming
from the fact that the International House of Pancakes' minimum order
of $4.50 (plus tax and gratuity) keeps people away.

I've been trying to find a restaurant to keep these clubs as dinner
clubs (one of the clubs is currently out of the IHOP and seeking another
location after the interim location didn't work out) which serves
dinner but would not charge for the room and would not require everyone
to place an order.  Other criteria include a separate room for meetings
and a restaurant closing time of no earlier than 8:30.  Prices close
to those of the IHOP or similar family restarants are also highly
desired.

Less important, but preferential, is a variety of foods and proximity to
the Clairemont area - but we're willing to stray a few miles in any
direction if the restaurant conditions are otherwise acceptable (for
instance, Brothers' Family Restaurant on Waring Road fit the criteria
except that it closes at 8:00 p.m.).

Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.

Joe Naiman

Newsgroups: sdnet.eats
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Hops
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:23:04 GMT

Hops got reviewed in today's (thursday) Union Tribune, they loved it.  Of
course, the reviewer(s) probably went in there with press fotogs, and made
damn sure everybody from owner to busboy knew they would live or die by
how well they did in the next 30 minutes.  Never had much faith in newspaper
restruant reviews (or record, or concert, or play, or their news for that
matter).

jim "The Cyncic from Hell"

-- 
So many women, so little charisma.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Harkins                         [ucsd|uunet]!pacdata!jim
Pacific Data Products               jim@pacdata.com
--------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: sdnet.eats
From: ken@bnf.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: Hops
Organization: Byte & Floppy Computers
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:52:15 GMT

In <40980@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan) writes:



>Went to the new (a month old or so) restaurant/bar at UTC called
>Hops.  It was OK, although I think slightly expensive for the food
>qaulity and service.  

I agree--expensive for the food quality and service.  It's a high-end
bistro wannabee that brews its own beer.  I had the "flash-fried cajun
shrimp" twice:  the first time it was perfectly done, the second time
their flash must have been stuck, since the shrimp had the consistency of
a bike tire. ($7 for the shrimp as I recall--it's an "appetizer").

The tortilla soup ($4?) was hardly worthy of the name.  Really just a chicken
soup with tortilla chips thrown into it (I recommend the tortilla soup at
Guadalajara Grill instead).

The hamburger (mine had asiago cheese on it) was pricey but good.  I'd
recommend going to Rory's or Paul's Place instead.
-- 
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		 Trying to make you compromise             writing about
		 To leave reality completely up to them"   Clinton/Gore
Newsgroups: sdnet.eats
From: scatter@vulcan.Berkeley.EDU (McLauglin)
Subject: Re: Hops
Reply-To: scatter@s3mercury.scubed.com
Organization: S-CUBED Division of Maxwell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:03:03 GMT


In article <1e8tnuINNhdi@network.ucsd.edu>, wbruvold@weber.ucsd.edu
(William Bruvold) writes:
|> 
|> has anyone tried the place in the Old Mission Bay Brewery building?
|> (I went by about a year ago before they had finished and it looked
|> like, with the new fermenting chambers, that they were going back in

I stopped by last month and it looks like they are still in the same state
as last year.  I would guess the recession got them before they even opened
up.
From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: sdnet.eats
Subject: Hops
Date: 14 Nov 92 10:46:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego



Went to the new (a month old or so) restaurant/bar at UTC called
Hops.  It was OK, although I think slightly expensive for the food
qaulity and service.  It was kind of a cross between a swanky bar
and posh restaurant, so the atmosphere was unusual.  Both the kick
your shoes off scene you'd expect at a bar, and the intimacy of an
expensive restaurant were indeed lacking.

Anyone else have comments?




Tom Marvan
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.wanted,sdnet.wanted
Subject: Looking for PC-type "nuts and bolts" stuff
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:26:30 PST
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

I need some miscellaneous PC parts:

	1.  A large assortment of the various sizes of disk drive mounting 
	screws.  

	2.  PC I/O board mounting brackets -- you know, the L-shaped brackets
	at the back end of I/O cards, etc. -- with cutouts for the 50-pin
	Amphenol ("Centronics-style" or "Telco-style") connectors used for SCSI.

	3.  Feed-through connectors for 40-pin Berg connectors on flat cables.
	(this is actually more for DEC stuff than for PCs.)

For those reading this in San Diego (sdnet.wanted), I've already tried 
Gateway Electronics, and I've also tried Frye's in L.A.  For those reading
this on misc.forsale.computers.wanted, I'm obviously looking for mail-order
sources.  

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
Newsgroups: sdnet.wanted
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From: bbarba@pro-acsd.cts.com (Bob Barba)
Subject: Re: Cheap external modem wanted
Organization: ProLine [pro-acsd] Apple Corps of San Diego
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 19:36:18 PDT

I got one...for ya   how's $30...the going rate...even MNP-5 

ProLine:  bbarba@pro-acsd
Internet: bbarba@pro-acsd.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-acsd!bbarba
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From: hoang@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Danny Hoang)
Newsgroups: sdnet.wanted,sdnet.forsale,rec.travel,ucsd.misc
Subject: airline ticket wanted
Keywords: LA to New York
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:41:12 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa

Hello, all

I want to fly from LA to NY on Dec 21 and return around Jan 2.
If you have a frequent flyer ticket or voucher, or just wish to
sell a flight, please respond to me ASAP.


-hoang
From: zeke@znext (james dehnert)
Subject: Hello
Organization: pnet
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:28:43 GMT

  Is any one out there?  
  I decided to get this group in the hopes of chating with fellow San Diego  
NeXT owners ( at least thats what I thought this group was for ) but have seen  
no trafic in the last few months.  Well, at least it's not running up my phone  
bill.

  Zeke
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Newsgroups: sdnet.next
From: cdl@chiton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Subject: Re: Hello
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:46:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.042843.4995@znext.cts.com> zeke@znext (james dehnert) writes:
>  Is any one out there?  
>  I decided to get this group in the hopes of chating with fellow San Diego  
>NeXT owners ( at least thats what I thought this group was for ) but have seen  
>no trafic in the last few months.  Well, at least it's not running up my phone  
>bill.
>
>  Zeke

I'm here.  But I was present at the founding of this net.group.  And
probably posted most of the real messages that it has had in the past.

What would you like to chat about?  My current hot NeXT interests are
bringing up NS3.0 with a Unix-like file partition scheme, and learning
to use the dot-matrix printer hooks so I can drive an HP DeskJet 500.

    carl

--
From: venkat@odin (P.Venkat Rangan)
Newsgroups: sdnet.talks
Subject: Talks on Philosophy of India
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:37:38 -0800
Organization: UCSDgw
NNTP-Posting-Host: network.ucsd.edu


Title:  The Vision of Vedanta (Philosophy of India): Its Logic and
	Practicality
Speaker: H.H. Swami Chinmayananda
Date and Location: Friday, Nov. 20, Peterson Hall 110, 7:30-8:30pm,
	and Saturday, Nov. 21, Price Center Theatre, 7:30-8:30pm
Admission: Free

H.H. Swami Chinmayananda is a world renowned scholar and authority on
Philosophy of India.  He is also a very brilliant and animated speaker.
Don't miss this two talk series, given as part of a 12 university lecture
tour of the U.S.

There is a $1,000 prize for the best report on the talks.
From: malcolm@ccrwest.org (Malcolm Williamson)
Newsgroups: sdnet.talks
Subject: The MIDI interface, signal processing and Musical Composition
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:49:25 GMT
Organization: IDA Center for Communications Research


  IEEE  SIGNAL  PROCESSING  SOCIETY  MEETING

   -----------------------------------------------------------------------
   THE MIDI INTERFACE AND SIGNAL PROCESSING APPLIED TO MUSICAL COMPOSITION
   -----------------------------------------------------------------------

   Speaker : Greg Smith and Jack Brooks

   Time : 6:30 pm   Tuesday November 17  1992

   Place : Dynamic Instruments Inc.
           9440 Carroll Park Drive
           San Diego, CA 92121

   for information call  Greg Smith (587-0252) or Fred Harris (594-6162)

   --------------------------------
   students and non-members welcome
   --------------------------------

 Jack Brooks is an accomplished fretboard (guitar) musician presently using
 the MIDI interface and FINALE software to achieve new heights of musical
 composition. He is a graduate of Berkley College of Music and has been active
 in the music business for 20 years.
 Gregory Smith is an officer of Trilogy Microsystems. He programs and designs
 DSP engines for a number of applications. He is currently working with Jack
 on the application of signal processing techniques to achieve different
 musical tone scales. This meeting will have a demonstartion of Finale software
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
From: jhp@photon.com (Jim Patterson)
Subject: Free 9 track tapes
Reply-To: jhp@photon.com
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:36:21 GMT

I have a collection of 9 track tapes that I need to get rid of.  The
tapes are in good condition, most have been written on once and then
stored.  I have about 200 2400' reels, 50 1200' and 50 600'.  If you
are interested please call or send e'mail.

Jim

-- 
James Patterson	             photon!jhp@ucsd.edu      jhp@photon.com
Photon Research Associates   619-455-9741 (voice)     619-546-3903 (fax)
"... three great virtues of a programmer: laziness,impatience and hubris "
     Larry Wall in _Programming Perl_
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From: maxc0202@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Todd Greene)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Amiga 2000 Forsale --> reduced!
Summary: A great computer at a great price
Keywords: Amiga 2000 commodore cpu 68000 system computer
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:27:08 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services





I am posting this message for a friend--
-------------------------------------------------

I have an AMIGA 2000 system at a reduced price!!!

package includes the following:

 -->>  Amiga 2000 computer w/1.3 ROMS
 -->>  5MB RAM
 -->>  Supra 40MB drive with WORDSYNC SCSI interface
 -->>  2 Floppy drives
 -->>  Epson printer w/ color option
 -->>  Perfect Sound Sampler (Sunrize)
 -->>  300/1200 Baud Hayes compatible External modem.

Asking only $900+shipping.

phone Steve Belt at (619)436-7670
or email to maxc0252@steer.sdsu.edu
From: rchen@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (nobody)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: sofa for sale $30
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:04:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


The title says it all.  $25/obo.  Its in ok condition.
I'm posting this for a friend, so call De Mai at 619-558-0418.
From: pfalstad@tartarus.ucsd.edu (Paul Falstad)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: CD player and Vitamix
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:32:44 GMT
Organization: League For Fighting Chartered Accountancy

I'm selling a Kenwood CD player; it's a 6+1 CD changer with random play
and all that, plus it has disc file memory so you can save a program for
up to 42 magazines (or 255 discs) and have it recall the program when
you put the disc in.  Five months old, in great condition.  $200/best.

Also, my Vitamix 3600 is still for sale.  It's like a high-powered
blender; you can make juice with it, or grind grain, or make ice cream.
Four months old, barely used.  $260/best.

Send me email, or call 619-455-7404 x713.

Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale,seattle.forsale,sqnt-public.forsale
From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: 30 pin four meg simms for sale
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:37:50 GMT



Four meg SIMMs for sale:



100ns (parity) $115 each

 80ns (no par) $130 each



 I have quite a few sets left over.  Please respond via email

 dleon@seas.smu.edu

Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
From: sal@pacdata.uucp (Sal Quintanilla)
Subject: WANTED:  286 DOS Extender
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Distribution: ca
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:34:14 GMT

Does anyone have something like (or exactly like) Phar Lap's
286 DOS Extender for sale?

Thanks.
Sal
From: mfischer@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Mike Fischer)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: Re: huh?
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:38:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <FL16TB2w165w@netlink.cts.com> pntbllr@netlink.cts.com (Jesse Guest) writes:
>what r they asking for the A3000s these days?

Well, a company called Creative Computers in Lawndale has bought out
Commodore's remaining A3000 stock.  They are selling them
(mail-order!) for between $1200 and $1400, depending on the speed
and HD size.  A real steal.  I believe their number is
1-800-872-8882.

Good luck!

-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------------
 Xx  Mike Fischer, mfischer@ucsd.edu         Singers do it...in tune!
 X   University of California, San Diego
 X   
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
From: afhetzel@netcom.com (A.F. Hetzel)
Subject: GOULD Test & Measurement Equipment
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:32:43 GMT

PRICED TO SELL!!!

Gould Test & Measurement Equipment.  These products were in Gould 
Sales Engineer's demo inventory, and are now available at costs well
below retail price.

30 Day warranty on all sales.

Model #       Description           List      $Price$
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
13-4616-30    Envelope Pulse Amp    $2995      $300
13-G4616-21   Wave Form Amp         $1995      $1100
13-G4186-1    8ch waveform amp      $6500      $2500
56-2400       2ch Basic DC Amp      $595       $250
13-G4618-30   RPM Amp               $1000      $700
6120-3111-02  Colorwriter Plotter   $700       $550
8188-G4400    8000s Recorder (4ch)  not avail  $3500
8188-G0402    8000s Amp cage        not avail  $600
8188-G0801    8ch pre-amp case port.not avail  $600
409-4800      4071 DSO              $8000      $1500
409-4810      4071 DSO w/plotter    $8000      $1600
409-4820      4071 DSO w/plot/IEEE  $8000      $1700

Please contact me for more detailed information.

Andrew

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Andrew F. Hetzel         afhetzel@netcom.com         Tel: (313) 955-7880
Newsgroups: phl.misc,pa.general
From: fafuria@der.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Arthur Furia)
Subject: Re: national debt threatens America
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:20:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.124036.3880@sadtler.com> rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris) writes:
>techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon) at it again!:
>>
>>     The Society President noted that, since there are about 250 million 
>>Americans, "Simple arithmetic shows that the bill for interest alone this 
>>year - a burden we all pay through various forms of taxation - comes to 
>>$1,300 for every man, woman, and child in this nation. We are mortgaging our 
>>future and that of our children and grandchildren."
>
>Hey!  I pay 10x that amount annually to the FED.  I guess the deficit is not
>that bad after all!

Okay.  Just spend 250 million times that this year and we'll be done
with this silly little debt problem in no time!

Something else interesting about taxes...  Did anyone else hear Perot
say in a debate that he has spent over a billion dollars in taxes in his
lifetime?  I found that simply amazing!

Fred