From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: APPLE UNBUNDLES RETURN KEY
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:00:15 GMT
Reply-To: rolfe@ldp.com
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions

In article <1992Nov11.165334.10712@ldp.com> rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)  
writes:
> 
> It's one thing to pay for an entire suite of TCP/IP tools, it's another to  
> pay more than a trivial amount for a TCP/IP driver.
> 
> One data point: IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 includes a multitude of telnet,ftp  
and  
> mail clients, all the servers, daemons (telnetd, ftpd, routed, fingerd,  
> named, sendmail, etc.), a newsreader, plus voluminous documentation -- all  
> for around $200.
> 
> If Apple wanted to provide a similar suite, I wouldn't object to paying a  
> similar amount.  But for just the MacTCP stack itself -- forget it!

I managed to locate the actual IBM announcement of their TCP/IP for OS/2  
product. Here is what you get in in their various packages. The base package  
is available from Corporate Software for $130.00.  The other add-on kits are  
self-explanatory. Those are additional, with the whole works coming to about  
$400 discounted.

--
.---------------------------------------------------------------.
| Base Kit:                                                     |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   Protocols:  TCP/IP/UDP/ARP/ICMP/RIP                         |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   FTP Client and Server                                       |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   TFTP (Trivial File Transfer Protocol) Client and Server     |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   TELNET                                                      |
|     TN3270                                                    |
|     ANSITERM                                                  |
|     VT100, VT220                                              |
|     PMANT                                                     |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   Mail Services                                               |
|     SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) client               |
|     LaMAIL                                                    |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   Routed (Dynamic routing)/RIP (Routing Information Protocol) |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   Domain Name System Resolver                                 |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   Other commands                                              |
|     REXEC                                                     |
|     RSH                                                       |
|     FINGER                                                    |
|     IFCONFIG                                                  |
|     ICAT                                                      |
|     BOOTP                                                     |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|     LPR LPD LPQ LPRM LPRMON                                   |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   Multiple LAN protocols                                      |
|     IBM Token-Ring                                            |
|     Ethernet V2                                               |
|     IEEE 802.3                                                |
|     PC Network                                                |
|     Media access options                                      |
|     NDIS                                                      |
|     SLIP                                                      |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|   Network Management                                          |
|     SIMPLE NETWORK MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL                        |
|      (SNMP) Client and Agent                                  |
|     PING                                                      |
|     NETSTAT                                                   |
|     PMPING                                                    |
|     SMPTRAP                                                   |
'---------------------------------------------------------------'
.---------------------------------------------------------------.
|NFS Kit  Client and Server                                     |
'---------------------------------------------------------------'
.---------------------------------------------------------------.
|  X WINDOW SYSTEM Kit- Server                                  |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|    X11R4 Server                                               |
|    X Font Library                                             |
|    X Font Compiler                                            |
|    X Client Utilities                                         |
'---------------------------------------------------------------'
.---------------------------------------------------------------.
|EXTENDED NETWORKING Kit  X.25                                  |
'---------------------------------------------------------------'
.---------------------------------------------------------------.
|   PROGRAMMER'S TOOLKIT                                        |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|    Berkeley Sockets                                           |
|    KERBEROS                                                   |
|    Distributed Program Interface (DPI)                        |
|    Remote Procedure Call (RPC)                                |
|    FTP API                                                    |
|    Network Computing System (NCS)                             |
'---------------------------------------------------------------'
.---------------------------------------------------------------.
|  SOURCE Kit                                                   |
|    ROUTE, ROUTED, TCPIP.LIB, TCPIPDLL.DLL, FTPAPI,            |
|    NETSTAT, PING, IFCONFIG, TCPIPMT.LIB,                      |
|    FTP, FTPD, INETD, TELNET CLIENTS (TN, VT100),              |
|    ANSITERM, TELNET SERVER, LPR, LPD,                         |
|    TFTP, TFTPD, REXEC, REXECD, FINGER,                        |
|    TALK, TALKD, KERBEROS, PMANT                               |
'---------------------------------------------------------------'
.---------------------------------------------------------------.
|  TOTAL KIT                                                    |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
|    BASE KIT  +                                                |
|    EXTENDED NETWORKING Kit +                                  |
|    NETWORK FILE SYSTEM (NFS) Kit +                            |
|    X WINDOW SYSTEM Kit                                        |
'---------------------------------------------------------------'
---
Makes Apple's pricing decision look kind of pathetic, doesn't it?

Rolfe


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