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From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Dave Remine
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:44:56 GMT
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting

Dave Remine reportedly suffered a heart attack at the AG and was 
hospitalized in Burlingame for several days.

Does anyone know how he is doing?

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From: phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Newsletter costs (was Re: Mensa national versus local)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 20:40:54 EDT
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

Craig.Wagner@p2.f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Craig Wagner) writes:
>By now you've probably already rec'd a msg from the original poster saying much
>the same thing:  you missed his point in your paragraph you deleted from these
>nested quotes.  Available funds are only *supposed* to support "publish a
>calendar of local events and mail it out first class, period."

Maybe you are missing my point.  National should be giving the local groups 
enough to produce a good newsletter.  It is the local newsletter that hold
groups together.

I don't think that national is giving us enough money "publich a calendar of
local events and mailit out first class, period".  We send 1200 copies: .29
postage = $348.  Our calendar section is 12 pages, printed two pages per side:
six sides @ 3 cents a copy + 1 cent a copy for colored paper = $288.  Total cost
$636 a month.  Our subsidy for three months was just over $1700, cost of mailing
calendar first class: $1908.

It's actually cheaper for us to send a whole newsletter using second class
postage rates than send just a calendar first class.  BUT EITHER WAY, THE
NATIONAL SUBSIDY ISN'T ENOUGH.  
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From: mingmar@cs.mcgill.ca (Ming MAR)
Subject: Re: Daylenth
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:23:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.194556.7843@ncsu.edu> 
gpowell@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu (Eugene Powell) writes:

> are there scientific theories
> that would allow an event of this kind on earth to be explained?

Why, shoi-tan-lee.  The suppositions are false.
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: T: To All MENSA Members...
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:44:52 GMT

In article <712393219.F00005@blkcat.UUCP>, Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson) writes:
> 
> eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager) writes:
> 
>  MJE> It seems that there are two groups of people: those who divide people
>  MJE> into two group, and those who do not.
> 
> There are three types of people - those who divide people into three groups, and
> those who can count.

If I wrote one about there being four types of people, would that be
fourplay?
Organization: Sophomore, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Daylenth
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:15:22 GMT
Reply-To: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <712351487.F00003@blkcat.UUCP>, Craig.Wagner@p2.f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Craig Wagner) writes:
|>  EP> From: gpowell@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu (Eugene Powell) Newsgroups:
|>  EP> ... We didn't even get into changes in spinrate of
|>  EP> earth that might allow vast sums for human ages, or constant knee
|>  EP> problems for volleyball players, since slowing down has increased
|>  EP> gravity?
|>
|>Gravity is independent of spin, is it not?

There is a very slight decrease in the apparent force of gravity at the equator
compared to the poles due to centrifugal force of the earth's rotation.

-Mike
From: SSR48327@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Syed Shibli)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: BEACH-BABES
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:33:26 GMT
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mortenaa@Lise.Unit.NO (Morten Aagaard) writes:

> Most humans are attracted to the beach when the sun glows hot, is anybody
> capable of some good explaination?

  I'm more attracted to my air-conditioner. Especially when it's
  99.5 degrees Fahrenheit outside.

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From: Craig.Wagner@p2.f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Craig Wagner)
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Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Mensa national versus local, New York City
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:38:13 -0500

  PH> From: phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill) Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
  PH> Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants
  PH> 
  PH> 
  > GLAAM manages to print and distribute thousands of copies of a 32 - 40
  > page newsletter every month with available funds.
  > 
  > The newsletter money from American Mensa is supposed to be enough to
  > publish a calendar of local events and mail it out first class, period.
  > 
  > I believe you missed his point.  Re-read the first sentence of his
  > second paragraph, especially the part referenced by "period."
  > 
  PH> No I didn't.... Read the first paragraph.   I beleive that it's
  PH> impossible to produce newsletters with 'available' funds.

By now you've probably already rec'd a msg from the original poster saying much
the same thing:  you missed his point in your paragraph you deleted from these
nested quotes.  Available funds are only *supposed* to support "publish a
calendar of local events and mail it out first class, period."
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Why mammal lips?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:07:42 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul24.123158.8144@cs.mcgill.ca>, mingmar@cs.mcgill.ca (Ming MAR) writes:
> Why are most mammals lipped?  Is this a result of random

To play the trombone.  It's the reason for fingers on primates as well.
It's the age-old chicken-and-the-trombone question.

GMS
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From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Subject: Re: IQ vs. Faith
Organization: The Cat Factory
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:06:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.215730.10011@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> johnson@sleipnir.mnesouth.corp.mot.com writes:
}
}Until this seperation was performed, there was no "night."  The initial
}darkness could be considered the first "night," beginning the first "yom", and
}the light the first day.  The first actual sunset could not occur until the
}light was seperated from the darkness.  Therefore, the first "yom" (day) can
}be shown by definition to be of whatever length necessary for these actions
}to be performed.

In fact, if you really want to get literal about things, the first sunset
couldn't occur until there was a sun to set.  The sun wasn't placed in the
heavens until the fourth day.  This invalidates the whole idea that "day"
in Genesis means "sunset to sunrise" since neither could have occurred
before the fourth day.

You can't have it both ways.  Either the Bible errs in calling the first
four days "days" (in which case the validity of the entire work is called
into question) or "day" in Genesis doesn't mean "sunset to sunrise."

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: T/ Re: T: To All MENSA Members...
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:25:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.025634.21211@ncsu.edu>, scott@ailab.ncsu.edu (Scott A Tai) writes:
> 
> 
> In article <1992Jul28.200644.24124@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil) writes:
> |>>In article <1992Jul27.214609.12298@ncsu.edu> tai@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us writes:
> |>
> |>>     Personally, I have absolutely no doubt that blacks, Hispanics, 
> |>>and other minorities are of equal intelligence, on average, to the 
> |>>average white.  I do not want to accuse MENSA of racism here, but 
> |>>how the hell do you explain these testing differences?  If you assert 
> |>>that IQ and aptitude tests measure skills that are unrelated to 
> |>>differences in education and social background (which is the position
> |>>of all psychometric purists), you can come to only two logical 
> |>>possibilities:
> |>
> |>You ignore my previous posting in which I explained there is a third
> |>possibility, one backed not only by logic, but also, unlike your
> |>postings, by data.
> 
> You want data?  You got it... see upcoming posts.

Oh, oh.  Here come more lies & outdated and flawed "research."
From: Craig.Wagner@p2.f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Craig Wagner)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: What about electronic newsletters?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:56:37 -0500

  PH> From: hellmond@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Peter H. Hellmonds)
  PH> 
  PH> Isn't it about time we get some electronic Mensa Newsletters?
  PH> 
  PH> Who's going to be posting the first scanned / transposed into ascii
  PH> characters electronic mensa bulletin / newsletter here?
  PH> 
  PH> -- (M) Peter -- Peter H. Hellmonds - 1614A 'Q'-Street, NW -
  PH> Washington, DC 20009, USA Tel (202) 462-9687 (home) - (   )    -    
  PH> (off) - Fax (609) 258-2809 Internet: hellmond@phoenix.Princeton.EDU


You haven't been in Mensa very long, have you?  ;-)

I nominate you!

;-)
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From: jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper)
Subject: Re: More on the AG
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:31:03 GMT

I think you are operating on some misperceptions
about the job of the Secretary and the creation of
the Minutes of the AMC.

If you will refer to my original post on this topic,
you will note that I said, "It took my precessor
70-80 hours to complete the minutes."  I did not
say that is how long it took me.

I also said that the finished minutes are about
45,000 bytes long.  Those are the FINISHED minutes.
I listen to the tapes of the 8-9 hour meetings at
least twice while transcribing and editing.  I do
not include every comment that is made, many of 
which are of the "Me too" variety.  In the course
of producing this document, I have to make numerous
decisions about what to keep and what to leave out, 
and still keep the essential meaning of the ideas
developed at the meeting.

In suggesting that you run for Secretary, I do not
assume that you can or that you think you can do it
better.  I do assume that the duties of the Secretary
are important enough to you (from this online evidence
of your concern) that you would WANT to try to do it
better if you feel the incumbent is not doing the job
properly.  If you don't think I'm doing the job 
properly, then it is your right, even your obligation,
to find someone who CAN do it to your satisfaction.

I do not type 120 wpm.  I am not a professional typist.
--
Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
"The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
                                           --Carlyle                        
From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Mensa in Roanoke, VA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:39:06 -0500

There is a good chance I may be living in Roanoke for 3-4 months starting in
mid-September or thereabouts.  What's the Mensa scene like down there?
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Densa exists!
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:46:55 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

>In article 1001@fs1.mcc.ac.uk, zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:

>>P.S. I sent off an sae to Densa, just to see - no response.

The very night I posted this, I got home to find some post on my mat from 
Densa!  (this is UK, btw).

"DENSA people don't know what they're doing.  Wrong! Densafolk know exactly 
waht they're doing.  It's the other people who don't know what we're doing, 
so they think we're stupid, just because we refuse to believe everything we'
re told by so-called 'experts' on TV, radio and in the newspapers.  How on 
earth do they 'know' better than the rest of us?  Who appoints them to tell 
the rest of us what to do?  Densafolk have had enough of it and are now 
coming forward to be counted.  Someone has to make a stand against all this '
expertise' in politics, education, etc.
So come and join us.  Life membership of Densa, for which you receive your 
certificate of Densanity, badge, membership card, Densawallet in quakeproof 
Densarette, plus the unique Densil (the unleaded pencil) costs 5 pounds +1.
50 p&p.  You can also order the wonderful Densa Tshirt for 8pounds+1.50p&p 
or you can have everything for 12pounds+1.50p&p
It is your duty to join today to restore some common sense to this country.
Regards from R McGedden"

So if you want to join, write off immediately to:
Densa, 16 Connaught Street, London W2 2AF (England)

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From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Daylenth
Reply-To: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:33:30 GMT


In article <712425627.F00003@blkcat.UUCP>, Craig.Wagner@p2.f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Craig Wagner) writes:
|>  MM> From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
|>  MM> 
|>  MM> There is a very slight decrease in the apparent force of gravity 
|>  MM> at the equator compared to the poles due to centrifugal force of 
|>  MM> the earth's rotation.
|>  MM> -Mike
|>
|>But force from the earth's spinning is independent of gravity.  Perhaps this was
|>just a semantic "thing" <trying hard to avoid the word "problem"> in the
|>original poster's msg.

That's why I said "apparent force of gravity".  The actual force of gravity
isn't affected by the spin, but if you measured the weight of a 1kg mass and
didn't account for the spin of the earth you'll get very slightly different
answers at the North Pole and Equator.

-Mike
From: jwp@chem.ucsd.edu (John Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Minutes, etc
Date: 29 Jul 1992 08:03:17 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Dept, UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: chedccf0.ucsd.edu

This sounds a lot like the same jerk who accused me of trying to rig
the current by-laws election by telling people we weren't going to
count ballots that used the misprinted envelopes in the June Bulletin.
Probably best to save bandwidth by just ignoring him.

-- John W Pierce
   Chair, National Elections Committee
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: IQ vs. Faith
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:10:26 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <14772@claris.com>, mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
> In article <711486015.F00001@blkcat.UUCP>, Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson) writes:
> > 
> > mike_steiner@qm.claris.com writes:
> > 
> >  MS> Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org [...] writes:
> > 
> > > One of the more bizarre theories I have heard from 
> > > fundies is that light has
> > > been slowing down over the ages.  (Or is it speeding up?  Whatever.)
> > 
> >  MS> Well, light does slow down and speed up as it passes 
> >  MS> through various densities
> >  MS> of various forms of matter and energy.
> > 
> > I mean thru vacuum, or at least as close to it as deep space gets....
> 
> well, we can shine a flashlight through [omitted]'s ears and see how long
> it takes to come out the other side. :-)

Note that this would be a function of the density of the cranial
material at both the extreme high and extreme low points.

GMS
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From: catapcnl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Chris Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Admission to Mensa
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 20:29:50 GMT

Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul25.102814.18617@wixer.cactus.org> chrisb@wixer.cactus.org  
(Chris Blandy) writes:
:
:    I have a few questions about admission to Mensa, and this seems like the
:correct venue to ask.  First of all, what are the requirements of admission
:to Mensa?  Is there a battery of skills that Mensa prefers, or will SAT
:scores do?
:    I would also like say that this seems like an interesting place to
:discuss Mensa-related ideas and activities, but why do people insist on
:questioning the existence of Mensa, etc?  I though this group was called
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think Mensa exists (or at least, my membership card says so :-)

:                                                  chrisb@wixer.cactus.org

SAT scores will do (as will many other types of score).
--
Chris Lawrence
Pretender to the Throne; Destroyer of the Faith
-----------------------------------------------
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teenage boys."
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From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Subject: Re: Daylenth
Organization: The Cat Factory
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:20:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.221522.25679@engage.pko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com () writes:

}There is a very slight decrease in the apparent force of gravity at the equator
}compared to the poles due to centrifugal force of the earth's rotation.

_Centripetal_ force, please!

(Just feeling pedantic).

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
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Santa Monica, CA  90405
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: More on the AG
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:58:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.140052.26772@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul21.171514.2755@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
> jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:
> 
> >The average minutes of an AMC meeting are between 20
> >to 25 pages printed pages long.  (That's about 40,000
> >to 45,000 bytes.)  I have to listen to tape(s) of the
> >meeting, and transcribe and edit them to a manageable
> >size.  It takes up to four weeks sometimes.  The 
> >previous secretary often spent 70-80 hours on 
> >each set of minutes.
> 
> How much of the 80 hours is spent transcribing and how much on editing? 
> Editing ought to take less than transcribing (certainly minutes should
> not be edited much), but let's allow 40 hours for editing.  That leaves
> 40 hours for transcribing.  45,000 bytes in 40 hours is 3.75 words per
> minute.
> 
> Mensa's national office never ceases to amaze me.

The minutes are not done by the national office.  They are done by the
secretary, who is an elected member of the AMC, and who has a regular,
full-time job.  Being secretary (or any other AMC position) is secondary
to the paying job.

A lot depend upon how Jean meant 70-80 hours.  If she meant actual time
working on the minutes, you may have a point.  If she meant waking hours,
during part of which, the secretary worked on the minutes, that is another
matter completely.
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From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Subject: Re: IQ vs. Faith
Organization: The Cat Factory
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:01:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.210747.23644@infonode.ingr.com> crossgl@infonode.ingr.com (Gordon Cross) writes:

}Actually, I understand that it takes some number of *millions* of years for
}the energy created in the sun's core to reach its surface.  Sudden failure
}of solar fusion wouldn't be noticed for some time.  Who knows but what it may
}have quit 10,000 years ago.

I understand there's concern about this in some scientific circles.
Something about the Sun not producing the predicted number of neutrinos.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
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From: SSR48327@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Syed Shibli)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Scott Tai's "working" email address
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:08:58 GMT
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cjdcosta@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER J DCOSTA) writes:

>wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com (Christopher M. Conway)writes:
>>Just wanted to let you all know, in case you didn't bother to try. I sent
>>email to the alleged "working" email address. It did get swallowed up, but
>>there has been no response. So I think it's probably attached to /dev/null.
>>Don't even bother.
>
>Personally, I think he came across an arbitrary Tai address and posted it.
>Unless the hapless owner of that acct is familiar with news and r.o.m., he's
>probably still wondering why he's getting random email. And the email must be
>ending up in /dev/null.

  The arbitrary Tai address (tai@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us) is a public
  access Unix system in Michigan. Anyone can apply for an account
  on m-net using a false name. Tai used to forward his mail from
  m-net to another public access account at nyx.cs.du.edu under the
  login name "bregenma." "bregenma" is Brad Regenman, which is probably
  another false name Mr. Tai uses for his network adventures. The
  account at nyx.cs.du.edu has since been deleted for some unknown
  reason. My last finger of bregenma@nyx.cs.du.edu shows the last login
  as originating from eos.ncsu.edu. A finger of that site showed a
  "jcwhite" as the only user. How do I know all this? I used to have
  accounts at both sites (nyx and m-net).   

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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: IQ vs. Faith
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:20:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.144954.1727@progress.com>, matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper) writes:
> willism@engin.umich.edu (Mark Benjamin Willis) writes:
> 
> >In article 5243 Matthew Harper (matth@progress.COM) asks:
> >>  Can you give me a biblical event that cannot be resolved with a scientific
> >> answer?  I've been trying, but I think I'm at a disadvantage since I feel most
> >> (all) such things *can* be explained.
> 
> >The clearest and (incidentally) most important example of such an event is
> >the resurrection of Christ.  The Bible claims that Jesus died, was buried for
> >3 days (fri-sun) and then was resurrected.  (Not as in ghost, but as in a real,
> >live person who could be touched, and who ate and spent time with over 500
> >people.)
> 
> >Obviously this is a biblical event that cannot be resolved with a scientific
> >answer.
> 
> >Mark
> 
>   Except that maybe he wasn't quite dead yet.  Same goes for Lazarus.  However,

You guys are starting another Monty Python thread.

GMS
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