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From: jhd@irfu.se (Jan D.)
Subject: Re: unexec anomally when compiling GNU
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:37:44 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden
Keywords: emacs a.out unexec

In article <2799@nlsun1.oracle.nl> rlyle@nl.oracle.com (The Wizard of Ozje - Garf) writes:
>
>OK, it's another GNU Emacs installation thing.  This might be quite interesting:
>
>I have a HP9000/827.  
>I do not have gcc.
>I have v18.57 release code fresh from the oven.
>I do not have any path releases.
>
>It doesn't work using s-hpux.h and m-hp9000s800. It coughs in two places:
>
>	1)  With an include of the file #include <errnet.h> within src/fileio.c
>	2)  In src/unexhp9k800.c it gives me:
>cc: "unexhp9k800.c", line 88: error 1539: Cannot do arithmetic with pointers to objects of unknown size.
>
>Now, I can make it compile via judicious (unsigned int) casting, but the executable core dumps with the slightest hint of you asking it to run.  I've been
>through most of the a.out.h and related files in an effort to understand exactly
>what the unexec call tries to do.  Hmmm.
>
>HP linker is new to me, and I don't like what I've seen so far.
>
>Any ideas, anyone?  Have YOU seen THIS bug BEFORE?  (Ask your dog, all opinions valued)
>

Yes, I've seen this before. I think all this is fixed in emacs 18.58.

But if you don't wan't that you can get by with

	1) Just remive the include <errnet.h> or surround it with
	#ifndef __hpux
	#include <errnet.h>
	#endif

	2) the return value of sbrk has changed to void*. You need to cast
	   it to a (char *).


I did this mod's once upon a time, but I think there was additional problems
after that. My suggestion is that you get 18.58.

Cheers,

	Jan D.

	Jan D.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: hagan@ee.ualberta.ca (Daniel Hagan)
Subject: spice3e2 on HP730
Reply-To: hagan@ee.ualberta.ca (Daniel Hagan)
Organization: University of Alberta Electrical Engineering
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:14:16 GMT

 I have an HP730 machine running HP-UX version 8.05 with 64 megabytes of RAM installed. The two main packes I ran on this machine are Spice versiov 3e2 and Mathematica versiov 2.X. In spite of the large amounts of memory installed, I cannot do a large simulation run with spice. It runs of memory and it seems to occur woth a call to the C library routine realloc. Realloc 4K or 10K of memory fails on even simple circuits with longs simulation run.
	The second problem is, running two copies of spice seems to interfere with one another. The same problem of interference also occur this running spice and mathematica when spice is invoked from within Mathematica. Spice or Mathematica seems to alter the environment of the other. The end result is that, after leaving one of the programs, running a graphics plot from the program doesn't work anymore.
	If anyone has encountered any of these problems I would like to hear about. Any solutions would also be very much appreciated.
	Thanks for your time and patience.
		Daniel (hagan@bode.ee.ualberta.ca) 129.128.16.96

From: pld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Paul Dineen)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:02:52 GMT
Subject: Re: modify the value of variables in XDB
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>    The subject says exactly what I want to do.   The man page for xdb
> does have a section on "Data Viewing and Modification Commands".   But
> there is no command to modify data described there at all.

  If you have it, page 3-29 of the 9/90 edition of the "HP-UX Symbolic
  Debugger User's Guide" described this.  Put an assignment expression
  on the "print" command, e.g.:

	> p var1=98.6
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: markd@cup.hp.com (Mark_Donohoe)
Subject: Re: Disk Array & 2GB HP-UX limit
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:51:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Raj PUBALA (klitd@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com) wrote:
: Looking at the HP Disk Arrays data sheet, I see that with four disk drives
: in the array, we offer 5.4 GB of storage. 
: 
: I also read about the LVM (Logical Volume Manager) in HP-UX 9.0, which 
: says the size of a LV is still limited to 2GB which is the HP-UX
: system limitation.
: 
: Can anybody tell me whether HP Disk Arrays management can overcome this
: 2GB HP-UX system limitation?
: 
: If not, is there any suggestion on how to handle a file system ( which
: has no sub-directory ) which will grow beyond 2GB?
: 

Yes, I have configured the LVM to be a 3.9Gig file system on HP-UX
9.0.  BTW, 4gig is the bigest that HP-UX can support at this time,
(you actually end up with a little less than 4 gig because of LVM and
other over head.)  It will take 64 bit pointers to address more in the
file system.

Hope that helps.
--
Mark Donohoe (markd@cup.hp.com)
From: paulc@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Paul Christensen X3073)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: DNet - Amiga to HP425 etc..
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:39:40 GMT
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA

BSD unix vrs HP425


I have a program called DNet written by the master programmer Mr. Matt Dillon.
His program will allow me to connect to my Amiga 3000 from here at work
and run an FTP ish protocol for transferring my work to and fro. 
Also opens window on the Amiga side for easy use at home. 

My problem is that I cannot seem to compile it. It uses a bunch of BSD unix 
#defines that makes my compiler barf. Does anyone out there have DNet running
on a 425 or less, or can someone help me out with an include file treasure
chest and a library so I can compile here?

Thanks for help - please email replies...

paulc@hpsadmq.sad.hp.com



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From: bsb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Brett Baumberger)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:14:49 GMT
Subject: Re: X-terminals/SoftPC 3.0 for 730
Organization: the HP Response Center, Atlanta
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

Hi Kevin,

I don't know about question #1, but the answer to question 2 is a *yes*, it
has been released, and SoftPC 3.0 is far superior to 2.0.

Brett

From: jrm@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (John Morris)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:18:11 GMT
Subject: Re: xwd of a motif widget window
Organization: the HP Response Center, Atlanta
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

I think the problem may be that you need a blank between the 
"-id" and the number.  I tried:

      $ /usr/bin/X11/xwd -id18874377 >temp

and got a "usage" message, but

      $ /usr/bin/X11/xwd -id 18874377 >temp 

worked.  Why don't you try:

		execlp("xwd","xwd","-id ",winid,"-out","out.xwd",(char *)0);
                                    ^^^^^
--------------------
John Morris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.programmer
From: chris@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Christian Finger)
Subject: Re: Sockets, timeouts, and HPUX
Reply-To: finger@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: Computer Center, University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:23:49 GMT

In article <Bu2HJ5.KHA@spock.dis.cccd.edu>, markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby) writes:
| I'm running HPUX 8.02 on a 9000/817.  I'm writing a sockets client that talks to
| a remote server machine.  If the server machine is down, the client's
| connect(2) call takes 75 seconds to time out.  Is there any way to change this
| timeout duration, especially to reduce it to something more reasonable like
| 15 seconds?
| 
[ comments about HP's manuals and implementation deleted ]

There's a very easy way: connect() can be interrupted by an alarm signal.
Here an example:

/* define dummy function somewhere in your source */

dummy() {}

/* the code that connects to the other host */

signal(SIGALRM,dummy);
alarm(timeout);

if (connect (sock, (char *) &sin, sizeof (sin)) < 0) {
	if (errno == EINTR) {
		/* timeout reached */
	}
	else {
		/* any other error */
	}
}

/* deactivate time bomb */

alarm(0);
signal(SIGALRM,SIG_DFL);

Hope that helps,
    Christian
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From: paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: network backup failures
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 15:13:09 GMT
Organization: 3D/EYE, Inc.  Ithaca, NY

In article <1992Sep14.093105.3982@pollux.lu.se> peter@astol.astro.lu.se (Peter Linde) writes:
>
>
>Dear net..
>
>We have one 720, one 835 and one Sun-3 sharing eachothers disks via NFS.
>The 720 has a DAT (with compression), which we want to use to backup all
>file systems on all machines in a single operation.  The amount is about
>1.2 Gb; 150000 files.  I have the following experiences:
> 
> sad experiences excluded.....
>
>It seems then that no simple solution exists to our backup  problem.  Do
>I  have  to  sacrifice   security  by   implementing   a   non-supported
>modification  of the kernel  (allowing NFS root access), or do I have to
>spend  thousands of dollars to buy Omniback, just in order to be able to
>do a decent backup?
>
Have you considered using GNU tar?  It understands networked dat drives
(typical command line: tar cvf remote_node:/dev/rmt/0m files) and it will
build on most any machine you want.  It also handles incremental backups and
the price is right.

Have your 720 spawn gtar jobs to the other 2 machines.  Transfer rates are
quite a bit faster than you'll see if you try to access the remote files via
nfs.

A faster-still option might be to use rdump instead of gtar, but I can't
remember off the top of my head whether the Sun has rdump or if it's hp
compatible.  Anybody know?

Regards-

-- 
Paul B. Booth  (paul@eye.com)
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From: dave@bnr.ca (Dave McComb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HELP! Modem/UUCP Question?
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:11:26 GMT
Reply-To: dave@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Inc. -- RTP, NC

I have recently installed two US Robotics Courier HST modems on two
HP 9000/300 systems running HP-UX 6.5, with HP98644 RS232-C cards.
I am successful at attaining cu and uucp connections at 9600 baud, as well
as attaining cu connections at 14400 baud, but I cannot attain any uucp
connections at higher than 9600.  I would like to acheive 57,600 bps
eventually.  I was wondering if anyone knew if this problem could be due to
any possible limitations in HP-UX 6.5 or with the HP98644 card.

Thanks in advance for any help.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave McComb
dave@bnr.ca
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: jinx@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Guillermo J. Rozas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: X Windows on 9000/710
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:37:12 GMT
	<3586@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <weh8GFC00UzxQ1DtEz@andrew.cmu.edu>
Reply-To: jinx@zurich.ai.mit.edu
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
In-reply-to: sean+@andrew.cmu.edu's message of 14 Sep 92 12:24:49 GMT

In article <weh8GFC00UzxQ1DtEz@andrew.cmu.edu> sean+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sean McLinden) writes:

|   >[FREE HINT to HP:  You are really annoying your customers and developing
|   >	a horrid reputation with customers for not including ALL of the
|   >	freely distributable X11 libraries, headers, and build utilities
|   >	-- like Imake.  I tell everyone I see about my experience with HP. ]
|
|   Amen to this!

As long as all that stuff is available on the net, why should I care?
In fact, I don't try to rebuild the latest X everytime someone sneezes
on the sources.
From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:39:03 GMT
Subject: Re: X Windows on 9000/710
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>[FREE HINT to HP:  You are really annoying your customers and developing
>	a horrid reputation with customers for not including ALL of the
>	freely distributable X11 libraries, headers, and build utilities
>	-- like Imake.  I tell everyone I see about my experience with HP. ]

I don't want to get into a shouting match about what should or shouldn't
be distributed. However, it should be no surprise to developers that
this stuff isn't there. Here's a quote from the Xmu README file:

+ This library contains miscellaneous utilities and is not part of the Xlib
+ standard.  It contains routines which only use public interfaces so that it
+ may be layered on top of any proprietary implementation of Xlib or Xt.
+ 
+ It is intended to support clients in the MIT distribution; vendors
+ may choose not to distribute this library if they wish.  Therefore,
+ applications developers who depend on this library should be prepared to
+ treat it as part of their software base when porting.

			-- Chan Benson
			HP Fort Collins

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: cyc@z.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang)
Subject: HP-UX compiler options
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:50:19 GMT

Recently, I tried to install 'flea' program on my HP720 machine to convert
magic layout to varies printer files. Since 'flea' was written for Sun OS,
there is one compiler option didn't work on HP720. Can any one give me some
help. THe option is '-lc' to load libraries routines to 'cc'. When I
include this option, the compiler said that lots of system routines cannot
be found. If I remove this option, it compiles, but the executable code
doesn't work completely. It did convert magic layout to Postcript files but
the laser printer only prints blank page.
Som what is the option in System V to load the system routines, such as
write, print, etc ? Thanks for your help.

Yi-Chieh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: vsnyder@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Van Snyder)
Subject: Re: executable sizes in fortran
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:14:54 GMT

In article <Bu2BvF.8Aw@atl.hp.com> aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler) writes:
>In article <lee.715546990@ceg.uiuc.edu>, lee@ceg.uiuc.edu (Chris Lee) writes:
>> One of our users has a question:
>> 
>> Why are the fortran executables SOOOOOO  BIIIIIIIIIIG?
>> It seems that "all" of the data is being allocated at
>> compile/link time, and he would like to know if there is a 
>> way to force the compiler/linker to allocate it at runtime.
>> 
>> We are running HPUX 8.07 on 9000/700s.
>
>Typically this is caused by large (should say LARGE) arrays that are statically allocated.
>I usually see this when code is ported from another machine and then compiled with the -K
>option to force all data to static storage (instead of being put on the stack). If this is
>the case, you can declare the array as being in COMMON, e.g.
>
>change
>
>       DIMENSION BIG(1000000)
>to
>
>       DIMENSION BIG(1000000)
>       COMMON /BIGCOM/BIG
>
>and don't compile with -K. You'll have to figure out which modules you can use this on.

It's simpler to say SAVE BIG (or SAVE LITTLE if LITTLE is really the
variable that needs to stick around from one invocation to the next).

-- 
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ames!elroy!jato!vsnyder     ames!elroy!math!vsnyder
vsnyder@jato.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards,comp.unix.admin,comp.mail.uucp,comp.mail.misc
From: hooft@prl.philips.nl (Van Hooft PJG)
Subject: Re: /usr/mail/glenr.lock not creatable after 10 tries
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 07:24:47 GMT

In <HKARHUNE.92Sep7102237@hydra.Helsinki.FI> hkarhune@hydra.Helsinki.FI (Heikki Karhunen) writes:

>In article <1992Sep6.155328.11649@aruba.uucp> glenr@aruba.UUCP (Glen Reesor) wrote:
>> I'm using the ftpmail server at decwrl.  When I request large files it usually
  .
  .
>> 
>> So.....is it a problem with NFS mounting /usr/mail?  Or is sendmail tripping
>> over itself because of the volume of mail coming to me all at once?

>This sounds very similar to one problem I had this summer. And no, I
>didn't find any solution to it, but here is what I discovered.

[story of mail not working via nfs deleted]


By coincedence (or divine intervention, who can tell ;-), I ran into this
problem just this morning. It seems my statd stopped working. The solution
is obvious, restart rpc.statd and rpc.lockd.

-- 
Peter van Hooft            (hooft@prl.philips.nl)
Philips Research Labs, Eindhoven, the Netherlands
From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:11:12 GMT
Subject: Re: X11R5 server SLOW, on 705 with GRX + xterm bug
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> Perhaps I want to make use of features which are only present in
> X11R5, like the scalable fonts.  

HP's X server has had scalable fonts for quite some time.

> Perhaps I'd like to have a server with most of the known bugs fixed,
> rather than have to wait for a new OS release.  

HP makes periodic (usually monthly) patch releases for X software. Not
knowing your situation with regard to software support, I can't advise
on the best way for you to obtain those patches.

> Perhaps I don't want
> the bloated HP server, with all the HP extentions which I don't want
> or need.  

Well if the "bloated" server is significantly faster than the one
you're running, I'm not sure what the complaint is here.

> R5 is faster on all the other machines I've used it on, why shouldn't
> HPs benefit from that speedup too.

Umm. Because our server was faster than anyone else's to begin with?

Look, I agree that we should ship all that imake and Athena crap. However,
I don't see the point in taking time to tell people how to do something
that we already do quite well.

			-- Chan Benson
			HP Fort Collins
From: qh100@cus.cam.ac.uk (Q. Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: a good deal or not on HP 9000/710
Date: 6 Sep 92 12:49:36 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England


-- 
Out local HP reps are advertising a 710 deal for 5100 pound for
educational purpose. Is this a good deal. How much does it
cost in States. The machine comes with 19" color monitor,
16mb ram and 420mb HD.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: kdw@sae.com (David Witten)
Subject: Does select ever falsely say a socket can be read?
Keywords: select, socket
Organization: Template Software
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:38:19 GMT

I have an application with several sockets registered with select,
all of them are non-blocking.  Sometimes read yields EWOULDBLOCK on a
socket which select says has data to be read.

Has anyone seen select lie in this fashion?  If so then are there means to
persuade it to forsake its antisocial ways?

-Thanks, David Witten			david@sae.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: davidb@zeus.ce.washington.edu (David W. Barts)
Subject: compiler error
Keywords: f77 720 HP-UX 8.05 bug
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:26:43 GMT

One of our users has been experiencing trouble compiling her Fortran
programs.  After many optimizer warnings of the form:

	Warning on line 2445 of run_stream.f: local variable foo never used

The compiler gives up the ghost:

	Compiler error line 2445 of run_stream.f: NCOLOR: OUT OF MEMORY: GET_WBSET. (6284)

	f77: compiler error.
	f77: Errors detected, no link

This sure looks like a compiler bug (or an overrun of some internal
compiler data structure) to me.  Are there any workarounds/hints/bug
fixes for this?

--
David Barts  N5JRN                      UW Civil Engineering, FX-10
davidb@ce.washington.edu                Seattle, WA  98195
From: ton@rwzl10.zld.rws.nl (Ton Damen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Is there a Brief for HP-UX?
Keywords: BRIEF, texteditor, HP-UX
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:02:20 GMT
Organization: Dutch Min. of transport Zeeland, Middelburg

Some of our users are addicted to the BRIEF text/program editor. 
We are looking for BRIEF for our HP-UX systems (300/400/700/800)

Can anybody if BRIEF exist for HP-UX, if so, can anybody mail 
me the address or phone number of the company which sells it.

NB: We are looking for the commercial version of BRIEF, not a
PD version.


Thanks in advance,


Ton Damen

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Rijkswaterstaat directie Zeeland
afdeling Automatisering en Informatie (AXI)
Koestraat 30
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The Netherlands
31 (0)1180-86000

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From: mcm@gorgon.unx.sas.com (Mike Mitchell)
Subject: panic at login
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:48:15 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

We're seeing some of our machines panic with 'grow: no stack region' when
people first login.  The crash dumps always say 'vuesession' was the process
executing when the machine crashed.

It happens most often when the machine has been idle, like over a weekend.

We are running on HP 720's, with 24 Mb of memory.  We have 8.07 loaded,
with patches PHKL_0743 (vfork semantics) and PHKL_1065 (interactive reponse
time.)  Has anyone else seen this problem?  Is there a patch?  I sure hope
so!

-- 
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mcm@unx.sas.com		"You tell yourself that the illusions are real.
(919) 677-8000 X6793	You pinch yourself, but the memories are all you feel."
From: djn@csc.liv.ac.uk (David Nixon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: /etc/disktab entry for Seagate WREN 8 (ST41650N)
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:50:02 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University


To build filesystems on a WREN 8, attached to an HP720, I created the following 
disktab entries:

###############################################
# SEAGATE WREN VIII (product id: ST41650)
# type: direct access device
# size: 1416345600 bytes (factory formatted)
# bytes per sector: 512
# blocks per disk:1383150 
# response format: 2
WREN_VIII_noreserve|WREN_VIII_noswap:\
	:No swap or boot:ns#43:nt#15:nc#2105:\
	:s0#1383150:b0#8192:f0#1024:\
	:se#512:rm#3600:
WREN_VIII_50MB:\
	:50 MByte reserved for swap & boot:ns#43:nt#15:nc#2105:\
	:s0#1327854:b0#8192:f0#1024:\
	:se#512:rm#3600:

With inodes allocated at 1 per 8196 bytes, and 8 cylinders per group,
the 50MB swap option  gives you:

/cs/crosby       (/cs/crosby):  1034002 blocks            -1 i-nodes
                                2585494 total blocks      -1 total i-nodes
                                1292942 used  blocks      -1 used i-nodes
                                     10 percent minfree

DavidN ------- Computer Science --- University of Liverpool
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp