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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: To Stephen K. Mulrine
Date: 20 Dec 1992 13:30:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Apologies to all the others who get this, but I can't reach the guy by e-mail.

Hi Stephen. Perhaps you're back on the net for a while but this is the first
time I've noticed. It's going to cost a lot to send Kicker to Cleveland !.

Merry Christmas (and to everyone else who reads this note !).
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From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Subject: Re: top 10 national teams
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:06:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.175844.18812@ugle.unit.no> dagn@colargol.edb.tih.no (dagn) writes:
>Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) wrote:
>: I do. And I really don't care about Denmark. They get a lot of attention these
>: days, just because they're European Champions BY LUCK! They surely weren't
>: the best playing team in Sweden, but... Goals decide matches. What was the
>: best team then in Sweden? That was - unbiased!!! - Holland.
>
>Unbiased????? You must be joking.......
>
>: To complete the posting with some current 'number 1 team' results:
>: 0-0 against some pretty good countries, like Lithuania, and that other ex-
>: soviet countrie. Congratulations!
>
>Well then, let's take some of YOUR 'number 1 team' results :
>Norway-Holland 2-1 
>Holland-Poland 2-2
>
>Now, then, you must be real proud of your 'champions'...........

>
>: Ole, ole ole ole ole, we are the champions, we are the champions!
>: -- 
>
>Come on, pal, wake up, will ya ??
>I agree that the Dutch team was very good some years ago, and maybe will
>be again, but right now they're not world class, admit it.
>

As a dutchman I feel the right to react. I think in Sweden Holland played
well. Not magic, but compared to the other teams they were quite good. Bu I
think there is something wrong between the ears of the dutch players. What I
say now may sound arrogant but I think Holland is the country with the most
talented players at this moment. Unfortunately this is only one aspect of
the game and the other aspects of football are not so well understood by the
players. That's why they deservedly lost of Norway although in my opinion it
is not a world class team. The match against Poland was another example of
a very unprofessional played game. Van Basten is able to score in the Italian
league but iin the dutch team he fails. Those who have seen the game will agree
that 5-2 or even more would have been a normal score.
  Next wednesday Holland has to play Turkey and I fear this game. Normaly, 
Holland should win this game by 3 or 4 goals difference. If Holland doesn't win
they have to win all the remaining games which won't be easy. Gullit will
play next wednesday and although he  played terrible against PSV he is player
who has more guts than van Basten. But if they won't win it's all over and
I expect Norway and Poland to go to the WC in the USA.

Louis Kossen



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From: thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie)
Subject: OZ round 11
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:16:48 GMT


	Notwithstanding my dismal performance in the Euro-Cup tipping
competition I soldier on with the news from the wide brown land down under.
	Speaking of Terra Australis Incognito I have received a letter from
the ASF detailing ticket prices for the WYC. Anyone coming to Sydney during
March just drop me a line and I'll give you some info.
	On with the show

	Round 11					Crowd
	--------					-----

	Marconi		4 - Parramatta		1	4606
	(D Iocca 65)	    (G Mendez 85)
	(K Taliadoros 76, 88)
	(A Harper 82)

	South Melbourne	2 - Brisbane		0	N/A
	(F Awaritefe 2)
	(C Boutsianis 86)

	Adelaide City	1 - Morwell		1	2200
	(D Mori 56)	    (Shillabeer og 28)

	Heidelberg	1 - Newcastle		1	N/A
	(D Hunter 52)	    (B Maloney 82)

	Melbourne CSC	3 - Preston		1	5000
	(I Kelic 51, 83, 91)(J Markovski 82)

	Sydney Olympic	3 - Sydney CSC		1	4674
	(Z Arambasic 16)    (M Zec 71)
	(W Ardone 73)
	(R Ironside 82)

	Wollongong City	3 - West Adelaide 	2	2800
	(D White 4)	    (S Lazarides 54)
	(M Smith 61)	    (R Blair 62)
	(B Hiern og 96)

	[ Helluva way to lose a match ]


			W 	D	L	F	A	Pts

West Adelaide		7	2	2	24	14	23
Marconi-Fairfield	7	0	4	16	13	21
South Melbourne		6	2	3	15	10	20
Parramatta Eagles	6	2	3	15	14	20
Wollongong City	Wolves	5	4	2	15	 9	19
Sydney CSC		6	1	4	16	12	19
Adelaide City		5	3	3	11	 9	18
Melbourne CSC		5	2	4	19	14	17
Sydney Olympic		4	2	5	13	15	14
Morwell Falcons		2	4	5	10	15	10
Heidelberg United	1	6	4	10	17	 9
Newcastle Breakers	1	5	5	 5	10	 8
Brisbane United		2	1	8	11	22	 7
Preston			1	4	6	10	16	 3

Note: Preston had 4 points deducted by the CCSL for Crowd disturbances
      in the last season.

			Thomas the Tank Engine
			aka Algor

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From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish Results 12th Dec 1992
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:18:51 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Scottish Results December 12th 1992
===================================

Premier Division
----------------

Airdrie      0        Motherwell  2
                      (O'Donnell, Arnott)

Celtic       1        Dundee 0
(Payton)

Dundee Utd   2        Aberdeen 2
(Crabbe, McKinlay)

Falkirk      1        Rangers  2
(Wishart)             (Hateley, McCoist)


Hibs         1        Partick Nil  0
(Jackson)

St Johnstone 1        Hearts    1
(Wright)              (Ferguson)


            P       Pts
         =================
Rangers    20       34
Aberdeen   21       30
Celtic     22       30
Hearts     22       25
Dundee Utd 21       24
Hibs       22       25
St Johnston22       19
Partick Th 22       19
Dundee     22       16
Falkirk    22       15
Airdrie    22       15
Motherwell 22       13


1st Division				2nd Division
------------				------------

Ayr Utd     1   Dunfermline  0          Albion Rovers    1  Clyde 2
Cowdenbeath 1   Clydebank    3          Berwick Rangers  2  Alloa 2
Dumbarton   0   Stirling     3          Brechin City     2  Arbroath 0
Raith Rvrs  3   St Mirren    1          Montrose         4  East Stirling 1
					Queen of the Sth 1  Forfar 1
					Stenhousemuir    3  East Fife  1
					Stranraer        1  Queens Park 1

B&Q Cup Final
-------------

Hamilton 3   Morton 2

 
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From: rmosher@mdd.comm.mot.com (Richard Mosher)
Subject: ASPL: 86er name to stay
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:07:41 GMT

Just heard today...

	The directors of the Vancouver 86ers voted 6-1 _against_ changing
the team name to the Whitecaps (as in the old NASL days).  The team owner
said something about wanting a clear break with the past.

	Vancouver may still have a team in the CSL.  Apparently Swangard
will host a Burnaby team (the Burnaby C???).  There is still a possibility
of a Kelowna team, but this is doubtful.  Will the CSL survive?

-- 
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From: fs@strawberry.cam-orl.co.uk (Ferdi Samaria)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:53:48 GMT
Organization: Olivetti Research Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <11DEC199214441115@elroy.uh.edu>, math1pu@elroy.uh.edu (Douglas Luo) writes:
|> 
|> By the way, I have tapes from World Cups 58, 62, 66, and 70. One has to admitt
|> that the 1970 Brazilian team which won the Cup is the best of all time. But
|> they would have won it without Pele anyways as they did in 1966.
|> 
|> Doug 

One can safely say that Argentina would have never won WC86 without
Diego Maradona. 

BTW, I am one of those who rank Maradona as the best ever.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: dci57@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: US Soccer News and Thoughts
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:52:52 GMT

Andy,

    Please post what were the 4 most popular high school sports ahead
of soccer in 1991.  Thanks.
				     Dorothy


My opinion is strictly mine, not my employer's
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Gresley Rovers -- FA Vase 4th Round Draw.
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:17:03 GMT


My dear friend Peter Hemmings e-mailed be the following newspaper clipping
from the _nationally_ distributed English newspaper, the Daily Telegraph.

THANKS AGAIN, PETER!

--- Beginning of article.

>>> From the Daily Telegraph on Tuesday 15 December ....

A three inch article under Non-League Soccer headlined:

GRESLEY STAY ON COURSE

"Gresley Rovers, beaten in the FA Vase final two seasons ago,
are homing in on Wembley again after yesteday's fourth-round draw.

"Their reward for a 2-1 success at Burnham on Saturday is a visit from fellow
Baezer League Midland Division side Bridgnorth Town on Jan 16.

"Gresley, beaten in a replay by Guiseley in 1991, went out at the fourth-round
stage against Newcastle Town last season.

FA VASE - 4th round draw.

    Bridlington       v Curzon Ashton,
    Burscough         v Cammell Laird,
    GRESLEY ROVERS    v Bridgnorth,
    Hinckley Ath      v Pelsall Villa,
    Dunston FB        v Durham C,
    Bilston           v Ashton Utd,
    Rothwell          v Knowsley Utd,
    Newport (IOW)     v Walthamstow Pennant/Lowestoft,
    Evesham Utd       v Clevedon,
    Harefield         v Canvey Island,
    Bourne/Peacehaven v Sittingbourne,
    Tring             v Banstead Ath,
    Buckingham        v First Tower/Paulton,
    Forest Green      v Hailsham,
    Barton/Diss       v Tiverton,
    Hoddesdon         v Tunbridge Wells.

To be played Jan 16."

--- End of article.


	Come on you Rovers!!!  Wembley, here we come again!

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: dagn@colargol.edb.tih.no (dagn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: top 10 national teams
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:58:44 GMT
Organization: Colargol, Trondheim College of Engineering
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) wrote:
: I do. And I really don't care about Denmark. They get a lot of attention these
: days, just because they're European Champions BY LUCK! They surely weren't
: the best playing team in Sweden, but... Goals decide matches. What was the
: best team then in Sweden? That was - unbiased!!! - Holland.

Unbiased????? You must be joking.......

: To complete the posting with some current 'number 1 team' results:
: 0-0 against some pretty good countries, like Lithuania, and that other ex-
: soviet countrie. Congratulations!

Well then, let's take some of YOUR 'number 1 team' results :
Norway-Holland 2-1 
Holland-Poland 2-2

Now, then, you must be real proud of your 'champions'...........

: Ole, ole ole ole ole, we are the champions, we are the champions!
: -- 

Come on, pal, wake up, will ya ??
I agree that the Dutch team was very good some years ago, and maybe will
be again, but right now they're not world class, admit it.


: -  Q: Why do I like white beans in /\  Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) -
: -     tomatosauce?                 \/    Schoterbosstraat 15                   -
: -  A: Because PSV Eindhoven plays  /\      2023 TR  Haarlem                    -
: -     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           -

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stops you from enjoying it.
	Dag-Ole
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English League Sucks !
Date: 11 Dec 92 12:47:57 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Dec11.101641.6351@fwi.uva.nl>, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
> mxt7690@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
> 
> And at last we find someone who thinks clear! You're absolutely right with what
> you're saying! But the problem is that the most r.s.s.-ers ARE English. 
> I pointed this problem out a few times here on the net already, but they don't
> like that. I suggest: let them dream on...
> 
> Greetings from a few people who understand you!
> 

	There's also a few Scots here as well who agree with you :-)  
Dream on !!!!  



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From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rivals (or, who do ya hate?)
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:07:52 GMT
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

--
In article <1gq5t4INN1ja@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, laudw@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr D R Holden) writes:

|>BTW,just my two penneth on the East Midlands rivarly debate Garry,I am
|>the opposite to you..and my opinion is that Derby are rivals to
|>Forest..leicester are rather insignificant (though at the moment they
|>seem to have appropriated Derbys ex strike force).But I think th  me)
|>tend to have been brought up to dislike Notts Forest and all they
|>stand for (i.e lots of success whilst Derby declined) don't you
|>think jealousy is a major cause of rivarly ??? I do !!!!
|>
|>DH.
|>jealous of notts forest and proud of it!
             ^^^^^

You really know how to stir the shit.  If there's one thing a Nottingham 
Forest fan hates, it's being referred to as Notts Forest.  Try Nottm
Forest next time if you don't want to do so much typing.

       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

 On being a football fan: "I am aware of the downside to this wonderful 
 facility that men have: they become repressed, they fail in their 
 relationships with women,their conversation is trivial and boorish, they 
 find themselves unable to express their emotional needs, they cannot relate
 to their children, and die lonely and miserable. But you know, what the hell?"
								   Nick Hornby
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Subject: Re: Great Britain National Teams
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:09:33 GMT

In article <2B28F690.27153@news.service.uci.edu> cheu@krypton.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu) writes:
>
>How is this country represented in the Olympics ?  I know that in
>other sport events like track and field, there is Great Britain.
>What about Olympic soccer ?  Since all tha world cup teams are
>selected from theor respective national FA, doesn't it make more
>sense to create an Great Britian FA on top of the 4 FA's ?  
>
England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland all compete as Great
Britain (even though NI is part of the UK and not GB). GB has not
competed in Olympic soccer since England abolished the distinction
between Amateurs and Professionals in the early 70's - this was at a
time when the Olympics were limited to supposed amateurs. Prior to the
70's GB did compete with an amateur selection. Given that Olympic
soccer is no longer amateur, GB could compete if they wished to.
However, it is believed that such participation might be seen as a
precedent for International soccer participation by GB as opposed to
the constituent football associations.

I don't think it makes any sense to have a Great Britain FA on top of
the four "home" countries' FAs. Each constituent FA has its own league
and cup competitions and participates on that basis in UEFA competitions.
Given that these four FAs have been around for about 100 years, I look
on  their continued existence as "inventor's rights", in much the same
way that they still hold half the votes on the IFAB (the latter being
a lot less defensible). It's not easy or wise to throw away 100 years 
of tradition at the drop of a hat. And is the recent membership of the
Faroes any less anomalous? 

--
Colin Morris    Ingres, an ASK Group company     cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"If you kick or use your hand and the referee does nothing, that is not the 
 player's fault. Anything goes if the referee doesn't see it" - D. Maradona
From: mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: The World's Best Football Players
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:49:40 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec15.120555.27092@fwi.uva.nl>, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
> mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Dec10.150815.1126@gssec.bt.co.uk>, gmcfall@gssec.bt.co.uk (Graeme McFall) writes:
>>> I am new to this newsgroup and apologise if this has been
>>> done recently, but I would like to find out people's
>>> opinion on the players they would pick to form a World's 
>>> Best XI.
> 
>>ok then...here goes.....
> 
> And here it goes again:
> 
> Goal:         Hans van Breukelen (PSV, Holland)
> Defense:  R:  Rijkaard (AC Milan, Holland) 
>           C:  Adri van Tiggelen (PSV, Holland)
>           C:  Ronald Koeman (Barcelona, Holland)
>           L:  Maldini (AC Milan, Italy)
> Midfield: R:  Goicoxea (Barcelona, Spain)
>           C:  Baggio (Juventus, Italy)
>           C:  Wouters (Bayern Munchen, Holland)
>           L:  Lentini (AC Milan, Italy)
> Attack:   C:  Voller (Olympique Marseille, Germany)
>           C:  Romario (PSV, Brazil)

                no Van Basten??!!

> 
> Subs:     Marchegianni (goal, Torino, Italy)
>           Popescu (defense, PSV, Rumania)

            who??

>           Moeller (midfield, Juventus, Germany)
>           Bergkamp (attack, Ajax, Holland)
>           Papin (attack, AC Milan, France)
> 
> Coach:    Johan Cruyff (Barcelona, Dutch)
> 
> 
> 
> With this team, you'll win every game. I'm sure!
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> -- 
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> -     tomatosauce?                 \/    Schoterbosstraat 15                   -
> -  A: Because PSV Eindhoven plays  /\      2023 TR  Haarlem                    -
> -     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           -
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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Possible Celtic Takeover?
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:44:23 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

With the impending Celtic AGM and the club valued at only 1.2 million, with
Rangers earning 210,000 pounds a point in the Champions League, the
accumulation of six points would allow a buy out of Celtic, just for playing
a maximum of six games.

Celtic are back in Europe, they've bought eleven Hoovers!

-- 
 Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk abuse  031-554-9424
 Spider Systems Limited     
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From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Subject: Re: US Soccer News and Thoughts
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 18 Dec 1992 11:52 MST  

In article <1992Dec18.172547.18730@europa.asd.contel.com>, andy@rocky.ndhm.gtegsc.com (Andrew Busa) writes...
{dci57@cas.org wrote:
{: Andy,
{: 
{:     Please post what were the 4 most popular high school sports ahead
{: of soccer in 1991.  Thanks.
{: 				     Dorothy
{: 
{: 
{: My opinion is strictly mine, not my employer's
{ 
{Errr, this is just a guess since I don't know off hand but I would guess,
{ 
{baseball
{basketball
{football
{and volleyball
{ 
{Andy
{ 

Here in Salt Lake City they are having a budget crisis with the schools. There
is plenty of money, but the state Gvt. is very stingy with respect to schools.
The result is that they are threatening to cut all non-revenue sports.  This
would include soccer.  I am very distressed about this.  It had appeared that
high school soccer had finally formed a foothold.  The H.S. near my home even
had a jr. varsity women's squad.  There were about 40 women invovled with 
soccer at this school and they had poor records.  The better prgrams had
even bigger draws.  The high school in Woodscross even had their girls program
listed in the NSCAA/Gatorade High School Final Girls Top 20 (at #16)

It would be a shame to lose these programs after such positive interest and 
results.

-Eric
ewstroup@cc.utah.edu
From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: Re: Rules: foreign objects on field?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:12:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

---------------------------
>officials, goal posts and corner flags, and linesman's flags. (This includes 
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Could you explain this to me (e.g. giving the rule)?
--------------------------
Ed,

	Under Ball In and Out of Play (Law IX), 2nd section (b) states :

	"if it rebounds off either the Referee or Linesmen when they are in 
the field of play."

	My comment indicated that if the linesman's flag were on the line or 
over the field, the ball bouncing off of it would be in play. The Ref & 
Linesmen are considered apurtenances (spelling?) of the field and if they 
keep the ball in play, much like the goal posts would, play countinues.

	Remember that regarding the above law reference, in the field of play 
means on any of the lines of the field of play or (like the corner flags, 
which are outside the field of play) keeping the ball in play.

	Hope this helps,

		josef
		jzeevi@swri.edu