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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:04:06 MDT
From:         Maid in Bedlam <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      when rumor becomes fact

Ricky sed:

>>omigod Rick... we've been hangin out together much too long... we're starting
>>to think alike... oh... the horror!
>>
>Ooh, scary. Are you also starting to look like the accountant that you said I
>resemble?

Actually, I got my hair cut today and I balanced my cheque book...  :)

>Hair standing on end,
>Rick

Oh cool, an accountant with spiked hair...

My accountant looks at spreadsheet GIF's and jerks off to Yanni's music.

Sonia, where are you when I need someone to tell me to behave!  :)

- Carol
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:59:40 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Worn out parts

>Posted on 28 Sep 1992 at 09:39:33 by MMORSE@YORKVM1.BITNET
>
>Re: Worn out parts
>
>Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:32:57 EDT
>Reply-To:     Discussions on all forms of Music <ALLMUSIC@AUVM.BITNET>
>From:         MMORSE@YORKVM1.BITNET
>
>Dear Jeff,
>  Have you tried the old favourite, working the fingers with a
>tennis ball? Do gently and gradually, individually and in combination.
>The good thing is, you can carry the thing around all day and pick it
>up whenever you get a few minutes. With some diligence, you should be
>in fine shape in 2-4 weeks. Good luck (and watch out for overdoing it)
>Michael

Of course, there is another "old favorite" tool for working out your
hands... But it can affect your eyesight.

Good luck, (and watch out for overdoing it.)

jcs 'where are my glasses'
From: cck1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHRISTIAN CHARLES KAZANECKI)
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Subject: Re: Top 5 Lead Vocalists!!!!!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:13:20 GMT
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In article <01GPLE609SS000070E@phillip.edu.au>, T9014170@PHILLIP.EDU.AU writes:
>Since people have been doing favorite guitarists I've decided
>to do singers as well:
> 1.Bill Champlin {One of my favorite musicians{singer,songwriter{2 grammy}
>                       guitarist,keyboards,producer)
> 2. David Coverdale { oHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh  YEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!}
>                       one of the most incredible rock voices!!!}
> 3. Peter Cetera { Excellent Singer very harmonious and knows how to use
>                  his voice welll!!!    Bass Player,Songwriter,producer}
>
> 4. Jack Blades {LOve his stuff with nightranger and Damn Yankees!!!!
>                       bass,songwriter}
>
> 5. Jon Bon Jovi { familar singing style never really changes from album
>               to album but his good} guitar,songwriter
>
>  Others that deserve a mention:
>       Paul Stanley
>        Dann Huff
>        John waite
>        Joey Tempest
>        Ken Tamplin
>        Jason Scheff
>       Graham Russell
>


        I only have one off the top of my head:
               Goeff Tate - Queensryche

        He's an amazing singer, especially before Empire, although I think
        empire shows a lot of diversity in his singing. Try listening to Rage
        for Order.
-- 

                                                 -- Metal.



   "When you know that your time is close at hand,
     maybe then you'll begin to understand,
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Date: 6 Oct 92 14:39:00 GMT
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ARE THE DOORS THE BEST OR WHAT?????????????????????????????????????????
From: RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM
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Subject: Mike Oldfield
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:45:49 GMT
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< Me too ! I was fortunate enough to be at that live performance of
<TB II, and it was sensational. It was the first time I had seen Mike live,

Damn, I'm envious! I'm clinging to a small ray of hope that he might come to
this side of the pond, but I wouldn't bet my Harmon Kardon on it!

Thanks for the tips Calum. I'm going out at lunch today to buy the new
Tragically Hip, so I think I'll pick up The Complete Mike Oldfield at the same
time (you can never buy just one CD...).

I was watching an interview with Mike the other night (on a local program
called The New Music on CITY-TV) and they asked him about the "New Age Music"
label he's been tagged with. New Age Music!!?? Give me a break! The interview
overall was pretty bad (not Mike's fault). She was asking about the years he
spent in therapy, etc. ASK HIM ABOUT HIS MUSIC!!! The first time I ever see
or hear about this guy on TV and she's asking him about psychoanalysis!

They also mentioned that he's released 20 albums during his career...

Later,

Bob T
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 10:55:38 EDT
From:         TEICHROE@NET2.EOS.UOGUELPH.CA
Subject:      Allmusic list

Dear List manager,

Please subscribe me to the allmusic list. I cancelled last june and
it's time to enter the fray.

Rock & Snow, Dave Canada

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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:49:58 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: odds and ends...

OOOH, Theresa, that's scary. . .

Although I'm known on this net as a violinist, I'm also a flutist--
I usually get my instruments from the local flute store (owned by the
second flutist of the Detroit Symphony).  I know this is no consolation, BUT
in the future, maybe you can try to get your instruments from a local,
reputable instrument store.  This way, if the company doesn't have the flute
or piccolo that you want, they can order it sent directly to the STORE and if
there are any screw-ups THEY can deal with it.

Good Luck,
Michelle
From: U33963@UICVM.BITNET (Little Inquisitor)
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Subject: Classical Top Ten
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:40:36 GMT
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Quickly then, as I've an auto de fe to conduct:
              1) Mozart, Symph. 40 & 41.
              2) Chopin, Nocturnes (Rubinstein)
              3) Brahms, Symph. # 1
              4) Handel, Organ Concerti
              5) Bach, Goldbergs (on harpsichord!)
              6) Prokofieff, Classical Symph.
              7) Albeniz, Iberia (de Larrocha)
              8) Haydn, Concerto for cello & orch.
              9) Beethoven, Quartets for strings (all of them)
              10) Modern Jazz Quartet (anything from the early period)

I'm from Chicago. Does my vote count more than once?

Renato
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:10:51 CDT
From:         Dave Hall <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: xtc
              1 Oct 1992 08:43:58 EDT from
              <GE777009%BROWNVM.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU>

On Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:43:58 EDT jcs said:
>>From:         woj <REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET>
>>
>>count me in amongst the _skylarking_ and _big express_ fans too.
>
>I'm a big fan of 'skylarking' as well. but my altime fave xtc record
>is 'mummer'. but then again, i'm the one who thinks that 'king of america'
>is elvis costello's best record yet.
>
IMHO, it is one of his best.  Later efforts are good but don't really compare.

>picked up a great cd yesterday, an accoustic "everything but the girl"
>has some great covers on it, like "time after time" and "downtown train"
>(d.t is a rod stewert song, yes?)  and a great live version of "fascination"
>which is one of my all time favorite EBG tunes.  Also a live version of
>"apron strings".  Nice quiet record. I highly recommend it.
>
_Downtown Train_ (I believe) is a Tom Waits song.  If it isn't Tom's version
is much, much better.

>was looking for the whole sinnead oconnor record...could only find
>extended singles...is it not out yet??  I don't like the cut that
>is on the radio now..."success has made a failure of our home".  I like
>the lyrics and the tune, but i  really could do without all those
>damn instruments. I think the only think that is missing in that
>song is a harmonica. sheesh. break it down, babe! it would be a great
>melancholy oconnor-esque work if not for all that orchestration.
>
>jcs
     In that case you might better leave off the album.  This effort
is entirely orchestra backed (as far as I've read. I don't have the album
either) and consists of covers of her "favorite" songs.

Hope this was helpful.

======================================================================
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 10:17:14 EDT
From:         "(Gary Hanley)" <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      99.9

Walt sed:

>My local radio station has been playing a new Suzanne Vega tune called
>"Blood Makes Noise". It's a pretty spacey song, but it sounds like old
>Suzanne is being bugged by the bees in her bonnet, much as Cage was pissed
>when the anechoic chamber idea flopped. Them thar little capillaries just
>keep wailin away...

	I just listened to the whole album for the first time last night,
so I don't have a solid opinion on it yet, however, I think I like what I
heard.
	Anyway, this is definately a new musical avenue for Suzanne Vega,
which I think was probably a good idea. Her first album was excellent,
her second (w/Luka), was good, and her last album wasn't that great
at all, except for one or two songs. So obviously, she was running out
of ideas with the style she was accustomed to.
	Also, it appears she either dumped her old boyfriend Anton
Sanko, or just didn't let him get near this project, because I
didn't see his name on any of the liner notes. He co-produced the last
album with Suzanne, and obviously, it was her weakest album.

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:38:43 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Top 5 Lead Vocalists!!!!!!
              at Oct 6, 92 12:20 pm

>
> Hello everybody.  It's my first post.  My favorite vocalists, male and
> female, in no particular order are:
>
> 1) Bessie Smith                        1) Howlin' Wolf
> 2) Janis Joplin                        2) Muddy Waters
> 3) Billie Holliday                     3) David Byrne
> 4) Aretha Franklin                     4) Robert Johnson
> 5) "Big Mama" Thornton                 5) Louis Armstrong
>
> Five is far too few....   *sigh*
>
> Talk to you all later...
>
> -jwgh
>

jwgh, for a first post you're doin' ALL RIGHT!
Other than ejecting Byrne and probably finding room for Betty Carter in there
somewhwere, I'm for it...(well, get Skip James in there too) (oh yeah, Etta
James too) (actually I'd put Hooker in place of Muddy) It's STILL a good
list!  BTW, how do you pronounce "jwgh"?  Maybe you should go for Jughead.

Michelle, keep the faith baby

Timsky the Topsky Tenovich--don't forget to post me the classical ALLMUSIC
results--I've gotta know!  Same goes for Rev. Bob the Bob's HATE LIST!!!

Sonia "disappears into the sunset to check out the Virginia backwoods
where Scott 'Disgrace of William and Mary' Hammer hangs out with Big Foot'"
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:22:55 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Monday Morning sarcasm, part 1

From:         Dave Hall <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PG - US - SO WHAT!

>      I've had _Bone Machine_ for a little over a week now (Little relavence
> but it shows I've at least had time to listen to it) and I like it.  I must
> admit that it didn't grab me as quickly as say _Rain Dogs_ but then this
> effort can hardly be compared.  I found its weirdness kinda refreshing
> it's definately different from anything else out there.

I don't think it's that different either from _Rain Dogs_ or from the Howlin'
Wolf or Captain Beefheart routines he's been approaching for quite some time.
I do like the sparse percussion/bass texture though. For extra credit: where
did saxophonist Ralph Carney come from?

(Actually I've only heard _Bone Machine_ once, and that only half of it, so
my opinion is subject to change without notice.)

From:         THERESA BLACKWELL <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
Subject:      OPERA...(YEAH!!!)

> all of those of us who like "Long hair" music.

Looks like the great cultural dichotomy of our time is now Long Hair vs.
Big Hair!

From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Re: Announcement

> Oh and let us not forget that the people who vote for these
> award things aren't musicians themselves.  In fact, these are
> the same kinds of people who voted for Milli Vanilli and voted
> Jethro Tull as Metal Band.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I've said this before, but I think the Jethro Tull vote was justifiable in a
historical sense. I think _Aqualung_ has a lot to do with how metal evolved:
the role of the lead guitar and the character of its licks, the gradual drift
away from blues scales and feeling, the gratuitous religion-bashing, etc.
Of course, the Academy of the Recording Arts and Sciences now needs to do
something about Deep Purple.

From:         "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: you don't get hands like that from squeezing lemons

>        ... Don't bother with Singles, btw.  Very little in the way of the
> "Seattle music scene", 'though I think the singer from Pearl Jam might have
> played a musician in it.  The movie's your basic "20something".  I believe
> this rings the death knell for Seattle music, eh?

We can only hope. Actually what it means is the imminent release of a NKOTB
album produced by, and featuring the guitar work of, Kim Thayil, while Madonna
dances lewdly with Chris Connell in her next video (electronic trickery will
give each of them the other's hair), and the 101 Strings version of "Big Dumb
Sex" will be blaring over the loudspeaker in your local supermarket.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:58:32 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Top 5 Lead Vocalists!!!!!!
              5 Oct 1992 14:53:38 GMT from <birchall@PILOT.NJIN.NET>

1. Peter Gabriel
2. Kate Bush
3. Aretha Franklin
4. Ray Charles
5. Sting


no particular order

 3
M
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:57:42 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Top 5 Vocalists

A great blues singer?  Only when I'm constipated. . :-)

Seriously, I do love the music.  I can carry a tune but my voice isn't
pretty.  I let my instruments (violin, flute) do my singing for me. . .


Michelle
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
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Subject: Re: Albert Ayler
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:29:28 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <0096163F.7E7D73E0.22638@hg.uleth.ca> Maid in Bedlam <watson@HG.ULETH.CA> writes:
>Mr. Jazz lips (Jeff) teased:
>
>>There is a larger ensemble on the ESP disc NEW YORK EYE AND EAR CONTROL.
>>It also basically a blowing date too.
>
>Now this sounds enticing...  :*)

I knew it would.  You probably are also interested in "head charts",
which are arrangments not complete specified.  Everyone in the band
knows the tunes, has an idea of what they will play on background riffs,
but no sequence is written out or planned in advance.  Blowing dates
usually use head charts.

>Ornette's "Virgin Beauty" is still one of my favorite jazz tunes... it is
>incredibly erotic.

Yes it is.

Jeff
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
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Subject: Re: Albert Ayler
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:17:42 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <00961653.E575D600.22857@hg.uleth.ca> watson@HG.ULETH.CA (Maid in Bedlam) writes:
>>but no sequence is written out or planned in advance.  Blowing dates
>>usually use head charts.
>
>Man... you jazz guys have the best lingo...  *gush*  *sigh*  :)  :)  :)
>I keep a head chart, but that's a totally different matter... ;*)

Well, to keep a groove, you got to be in the pocket.  And that's no
lie.

Jeff
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:49:09 MDT
From:         Maid in Bedlam <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Re: Xenakis

Michael said:

>>Sticks and stones won't make electronic "music" music.  It may be great
>>stuff, but Music it ain't.
>
>I invite you to justify this (IMHO totally outrageous) statement. Minimally
>you need to provide a definition of "music" that will pass muster with most
>of the list participants, and then a phenomenology of same that will show
>how a given waveform produced on a sampler is inherently inferior to the
>same waveform produced on an oboe. You'll also need to explain how John
>Cage's work was completely valueless and misguided. And then you'll need
>to convince the rock'n'roll world to fix all their amplifiers so they
>never, ever distort. And I want this all on my desk by 9 in the morning!

Yes... yes... I knew you would jump on this, Michael, baby!  Gawd, it gets me
incredibly hot when you get huffy like this...

Soaking wet,
Libby Doe

P.S.  Don't listen to Carol... I forgive you for being a rock critic
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:48:44 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Advice & observations

Leonard,

You don't have to be cocky to be a good singer.
The thing you should keep in your mind onstage is that you are up there
to entertain the audience, not to show off.

Being cocky IMHO takes away from the entertainment value of the show,
and from the general repoire you create with your band.

Think of the audience--would they want you to be cocky?  Would you want to
see someone be cocky onstage?

If your band requires it, then so be it, but otherwise, hang loose.

On my snare drum head, I have the words "relax, make it funky, and
entertain the audience." It works for me.

As a singer, you should not use screaming as your main source of energy,
unless you want a short-lived career.
Focus on the mood.

Before the show, drink a little lemon juice to keep the phlegm out of the way.
Keep a bottle of water next to you onstage--do not drink alcohol,
because it is a dehydrator (you will lose your inhibitions, but you will
also lose your voice faster that evening).

If you are nervous, try this:  about three rib bones down from your right
collarbone, there is a pressure point between the breastbone and the
third and fourth rib.  Use your thumb and gently press the soft region there.
There is a nerve there that partially controls the tempo of your heartbeat.
Press for about 30 seconds, in a circular motion.  Your pulse should
slow down a tad.

good luck,
Mike Masuda
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:48:58 EDT
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Reminder to vote!

Send me your list of classical music favorites.

Ten, if you have that many.

And a favorite opera.

We need enough participation to get some duplication
in the entries.

                               -Tim
                                ST402711 at BROWNVM
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:16:56 MEZ
From:         Paul Hosken <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: yes, but...

jcs,

  Downtown Train was (IMHO) the best track on the Tom Waits' album
'Raindogs'. Rod Stewart then did his version a couple of years later
and unfortunately had a huge hit with it. Rod added nothing worth
while to Tom's original, but seems to get all the credit for the song.

  How about calling a truce?

Paul
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:49:28 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: Announcement

The type of music is a surprise to some & to some who know my address it
isn't.  Like I said it is a 9:00 pm est.  No more detail will be given.

Don't tell my heart.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:07:03 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Blatant self-promotion for Hallowe'en

Urban Ambience will be performing live twice in the month of October.

At the Middle East Cafe on October 6, there's going to be a show put together
by Joe Mahoney of the band Inner Beauty, featuring themselves, RRRon of RRR
Records doing a solo performance, the Urbans, and as headliners, Japanese
noise band C.C.C.C. If I remember correctly, C.C.C.C. invented the electric
hibachi-- a small backyard barbecue grill filled with microphones and other
transducers, which is played by whacking it with mallets, holding loud power
tools near it, and anything else they can think of to excite the circuitry
and make an appropriately fearsome amount of noise. I'm afraid Urban Ambience
is gonna seem positively normal in this context, so we're adding a percussion
player and an electronic trumpeter for the occasion.

And on Hallowe'en itself, Urban Ambience is going to play in New York City at
the Knot Room, the first-floor performance space in the justly famous Knitting
Factory. We're playing an early show, I think, 7:30 or so, with Glenn Leslie's
documentary film and telephone answering machine tape.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:00:22 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: longest song title ever???

>>Theresa's looking for the longest song title ever:
>
>As has been known for a long time Pink Floyd has the record with:
>
>"Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and
>groving with a pict"
>
In the 1968 Guinness Book of World Records (where else) I came across this
tidbit that makes that Pink Floyd number seem very abbreviated indeed:

   "I'm a Clanky Old Yank in a Clanky Old Tank on the Streets of Yokohama
With My Honolulu Mama Doin' Those Beat-o, Beat-o, Flat on My Seat-O, Hirohito
Blues" written by Hoagy Carmichael in 1943.  That's the title, supposedly;
I'm trying to find reference to it in other sources. So far, I haven't had
much luck locating it in Carmichael's autobiography, RLIN, OCLC, and several
discographies. Can anybody verify this?

DISCLAIMER #1
   Actually, the outdatedness of the Guinness Book implies that there may be
longer title than this. Maybe any of you ALLMUSICERS who are also songwriters
can break the record by composing a tune with one of your more longwinded
posts as the title. Anybody interested in this?

DISCLAIMER #2
   If this Carmichael song is bona-fide, then it may or may not be the longest
song title, and additionally it would qualify among the most boorish, the
most anti-Japanese, and the most pointless of song titles. Those categories
weren't in the Guinness book.

He shoulda stopped at Stardust,
Rick
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