From:  A Greek
Subject: Re: Remember Cyprus
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 08:26:42 GMT


In article <ladflnINN2kd@solar.usc.edu>, sboztas@solar.usc.edu (Serdar Boztas) writes:
> efstse@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu (Serafim Efstratiadis) writes:
> 
> >Why? Because you are too blind to see reality. You Turkish Cypriots
> >had it all and now you are FORCED to have crumbles thrown by the Turkish
> >Government. If you think that you can achieve the kind of prosperity you
> >enjoyed before 1974, or what you would have had if Cyprus was free...
> >the you must be on ACID, my friend. Anyway, mark these words and you'll
> >remember them sometime.
> 
> I have to disagree, Serafim. Please enlighten me about the prosperity of
> Turkish Cypriots before 1974, using real statistics not nice round
> words. I don't always agree with the Turkish Cypriot leadership but
> one thing Turkish Cypriots weren't before 1974 was prosperous!
> 
> I lived that period,  Besime is I believe, younger. I hope for a solution
> in Cyprus, but not for the 'prosperity' of pre-1974 era.
> 
> What first hand experience of pre 1974 conditions for Turkish Cypriots
> do you have to supply us with? Current GNP/Capita on  the North is
> ~3500 US dollars, no comparison with the south but certainly better
> than before.
> 
> It is conterproductive, so I won't dwell on  the conditions we had
> to endure just to get to Nicosia from our village, including searches,
> waiting in the burning sun for hours, de-facto economic embargo on
> building materials, etc. etc.
> 
> I am not trying to minimize the suffering of Greeks at various
> points of Cypriot history. There surely is enough of that to go around.
> 
> Hoping for a solution,
> 
> Serdar
> 
> >Serafim.
> 


>From: lmk@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
>Subject: Re: Remember Cyprus (was: No! U.N.O! It's too little, too late!)

>I am glad to hear from a fellow Cypriot, Greek, Turk or other, on the network.
>I want to believe that you are sincere in your concerns about the future of
>Cyprus.

>We, Cypriots, should realize that we should be concerned with the interests and
>well being of our island and not with that of Greece or Turkey.  The new
>Republic of Cyprus should start on a new basis were there should be respect and
>understanding among all the peoples that live there.  Greeks should learn the
>Turkish language, unbiased Turkish history and he principles of Islam.  The
>same
>goes for the Turkish Cypriots and their understanding of Greek history culture
>and religion. (You might say that I'm dreaming but, hey..)

>What happened in the past should be remembered BUT, from that we should draw
>strength for a new beginning rather than build up hate.  Mistakes and crimes I
>am sure have been committed by both sides.  I hope we are mature and strong
>enough at this point to put things behind us.

>Let us all together honor our dead and let us not create any more to honor.

>Loukis Kissonergis
>West Virginia University



I was glad to see that there still are samples of individuals in the
human race population that they have evolved enough to use their brain
first and their mouth afterwards.

		  (reffering to Serdar Boztas & Loukis. Kissonegris)

-a Greek.
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