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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:15:39 -0400
From:         "Laura G. Hook" <hook@IBM530.RES.UTC.COM>
Subject:      questions on LaTex for AIX 3.2
X-To:         AIX-L@pucc.Princeton.EDU

We have Tex installed on all of our RS/6000s here, and have
noticed that LaTex no longer produces a linefeed when outputing
messages to the screen since we upgraded to AIX 3.2.  As a result,
the shell prompt often ends up over in the right-hand portion of
the window after Latex'ing a document, and it is also very difficult
to read any error messages produced.  This behavior started when w
upgraded to 3.2, are 3.1.5 machines are fine.  Has anyone got an
idea how to correct this problem?  I suspect it has something to
do with the termcap....

I was also wondering if there have been any upgrades to the Tex
package since we purchased it back in December '90.  Our current
version is 2.95.  Has anyone received a more current version than
that?  If so, did you get it from IBM, and how?

Thanks for your help!
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:11:44 EST
From:         IBM4@INDYCMS.BITNET

There was a note about two weeks ago that mentioned where to get
X servers for DOS and windows. I missed the location. Could some one
please post that info again?

thanks
From: nsysdbj@STRAYLIGHT.ACS.NCSU.EDU (David Joyner)
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Subject: Re: Moving an external disk
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:10:46 GMT
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              at Aug 14, 92 6:55 pm

Klaus Wacker wrote:
>
>I physically moved an external disk from one of our RS6000-550 (AIX 3.2)
>to another. On the new machine, I made sure the disk was 'available' as
>a device and went into the smit vg menu. There I selected 'Add a Volume
>Group' and went ahead. I now had an empty volume group. Unfortunately,
>this is not what I wanted. I wanted to keep the data that were on the
>disk. I guess I should have selected 'Import' instead of 'Add'. But when
>I now 'Remove' and then 'Import', it doesn't work. Have I destroyed the
>data or is there any way I can get them back?
>
>Any help appreciated.
>

Although I've never done it, wouldn't it make sense to bring the
machine down, physically move the drive, then import it on the new
machine.  When the old machine comes back up, then remove the vg
definition.

--
David Joyner (david_joyner@ncsu.edu)
Unix Systems Programmer                            | Phone: (919) 515-2794  |
NCSU Administrative Computing Services             | FAX:   (919) 515-3787  |
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 15:03:49 KDT
From:         Byun In-Ho <bih@YISE.YSI.CO.KR>
Subject:      TTY HANDSHAKE
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Hi,

	I'm trying to xfer data via TTY port, and have the following questions.

Q1) How can I setup the port(actually, it is file descriptor for /dev/ttyX)
    to handshake by modem control siginals(CTS, RTS siginal)?

Q2) I want no delay when writing byte to port. What is the fastest way
    to send a byte to TTY port?

	I'm using RS6000/AIX3.2.

	Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Inho Byun
Yeonjoo Systems, Inc.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:12:41 -0400
From:         Robert Williams BCS <RJWILLIA@ESTEC.BITNET>
Subject:      User accounting facilities

 *** Reply to note of 92-08-14 20:04
 On AIX 3.2 Disk Quotas are supported

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:30:35 PDT
From:         DI001@CALPOLY.BITNET
Subject:      Need help with C++ build
X-To:         aix370-l@uwavm.BITNET, aix-l@pucc.BITNET

Greetings!

Here at Cal Poly we have an IBM 3090/400E running AIX/370 among a slew
of other Operating Systems with an attached cluster of PS/2s.  We are
currently in the process of receiving 5 IBM RISC/6000 560s and one 970
to become a replacement for the PS/2 cluster (thank God for grants).
We are in the process of porting and upgrading current software to
make the move to the 6000s and AIX/ESA which is also coming soon.

As part of this operation, we have obtained a license for AT&T C++
3.01 for the 3090.  We also have AT&T C++ version 2.1 on the 3090 that
was built with version 1.2 (not 1.2.1) and would prefer not to use it
to build 3.01 because of the 1.2libs.

Has anyone built C++ 3.01 for the 370 systems under AIX 1.2.1?  Has
anyone done it yet for the 6000s?  I would prefer to build it on which
ever is the easier (and if someone already has it built, maybe we can
share).  If I need to move it to the 6000s, we would have to transfer
the license from the 3090.

The other kicker in this is that someone on campus may be able to
afford the IBM HESC group H (RISC/6000 advanced) which includes C++
and that would save me a lot of trouble, although it would mean
building it on the 3090 with the AT&T version.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

*********************************************************************
George L. Westlund         | BITNET:      DI001@CALPOLY
Academic Computing Services| Internet:    gwestlu@polyslo.calpoly.edu
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:15:31 +1000
From:         t.dao@ABN.NLA.GOV.AU
Subject:      UNIX-DOS/WINDOWS 3.0 interface/hook.
X-To:         AIX-L@PUCC.Princeton.EDU

Anyone out there have any document/systems  that show how to set up
the interface from DOS/WINDOWS to talk to UNIX?  I want to write an
application on UNIX machines having DOS/WINDOWS front-end. i.e. Users
operate from a DOS/PC.
Many thanks in advance.

Tien Dao.
tiendao@abn.nla.gov.au
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:29:23 +0100
From:         Mike Mehl <mehl@IRRMASG6.EPFL.CH>
Subject:      simple point & click graphing packages.
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              20 Aug 1992 10:15:00 EST <920820161925.m3n@SIC.Epfl.CH>

Well, it's not exactly point and click, but its free, and fairly easy to
use: try gnuplot.  It has simple x-y plots, with and without error bars,
surface plots, and other goodies I never use and so can't comment upon.
It also compiles on the RS-6000, at least under 3.1.5.  The last I heard,
it was available vi anonymous ftp from ames.arc.nasa.gov in
~ftp/pub/gnuplot/gnuplot3p2b5.tar.Z.

Now, if it only did superscripts and subscripts in its labels and titles.

                                Mike Mehl
                                mehl@irrmasg6.epfl.ch ('til 9/24/92)
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Subject: simple point & click graphing packages.
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:15:00 GMT
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Does anyone out there have suggestions for basic scientific graphing
packages available for the RS6000?  Looking for sonething similar to
Cricket Graph for the Mac or Charisma for PCs.  x,y,z plots would be
helpful too.  I happen to be very fond of Disspla (habit I guess), but
a couple of users would rather not go thru the hassle of writing fortran
pgms to get quick - but nice looking - graphs out.  Have Wingz, but have not
been really happy w/ the graphing capabilities.
thanks,
\Bob McConnaughey
mcconnaughey@niehs.bitnet, bob@mojo.niehs.nih.gov
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From: tom@dickens.com (Tom Gillman)
Subject: Re: increasing pty's?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:56:45 GMT
Organization: Dickens Data Systems, Inc.

In article <5076@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu writes:
>In article <9208081833.AA2104255@snow.usi.utah.edu>, udplmc@SNOW.USI.UTAH.EDU (Lloyd Caldwell) writes:
>|> After spending three day's trying to find the magic needed to
>|> increase the number of pty's on my 550 3.2.0 RS/6000, I give up!
>|> 
>|> ** Hundreds of lines complaining about smit, odm and useless info deleted **
>|> 
>|> s[hm]it say's device busy, the error message lookup takes me to
>|> cfgmgr, but the command invoked was "chdev -l pty0 -a num='64'".
>|> I can't find any way to make a new pty or increase the current number of
>|> pty's.  The info search on pty say's mkpty command which doesn't exist
>|> on 3.2.0.  What's going on!  Do I have to do this in maintenance mode,
>|> and if so how can I guarantee it will be saved when I boot on the
>|> full system.  I've changed things before in maint mode, and when the
>|> full system boots, odm say's oh no you don't!
>
>You have to kick everyone off the system, or the chdev command will complain
>that the pty device is in use. I have had no trouble logging in on the console
>and running the chdev you show (I do it from smit, but the command it builds
>looks just like the one you show).
>
>You can actually get more than 64 pty's by making links on your own.
>The pattern is:
>
>lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     system        10 Jun 20 00:41 ptyp0@ -> /dev/ptc/0
>lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     system        10 Jun 20 00:41 ptyp1@ -> /dev/ptc/1
>lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     system        10 Jun 20 00:41 ptyp2@ -> /dev/ptc/2
>lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     system        10 Jun 20 00:41 ptyp3@ -> /dev/ptc/3
>
>The system starts with ptyp[0-f], then goes to ptyq, ptyr and ptys. We just
>continued the pattern with ptyt, ptyu, ptyv and ptyw. Seems to work ok, and
>lets more people log into our compute server. Never had odm or anyone else
>gripe about it.

Actually, ODM *does* contain an entry for the number of pty devices. If SMIT
is being nasty about allowing you to change it, do this:

# odme
# Choose/Select an Object Class
# Choose 'CuAt'
# Choose Selective Search
# press <TAB> twice and enter 'like pty*' under criteria
it should come back with : 'pty num 64'
# Change 64 to an appropriate number
# end odme
make sure nobody is using any pty devices, then

$ rmdev -l pty0
$ mkdev -l pty0

taa-daa....new pty devices
>

>*) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *)!(* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (*
>Jo Ann Malina, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
>joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu  -or-  415/926-2846
>Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
>Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.
>


-- 
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 machine, but I can't find the <ANY> key" - This really happened to me, honest!
From: joann@ariadne.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.aix-l
Subject: Re: increasing pty's?
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:02:21 GMT
Reply-To: joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu
Organization: SLAC (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center)

In article <9208081833.AA2104255@snow.usi.utah.edu>, udplmc@SNOW.USI.UTAH.EDU (Lloyd Caldwell) writes:
|> After spending three day's trying to find the magic needed to
|> increase the number of pty's on my 550 3.2.0 RS/6000, I give up!
|> 
|> ** Hundreds of lines complaining about smit, odm and useless info deleted **
|> 
|> s[hm]it say's device busy, the error message lookup takes me to
|> cfgmgr, but the command invoked was "chdev -l pty0 -a num='64'".
|> I can't find any way to make a new pty or increase the current number of
|> pty's.  The info search on pty say's mkpty command which doesn't exist
|> on 3.2.0.  What's going on!  Do I have to do this in maintenance mode,
|> and if so how can I guarantee it will be saved when I boot on the
|> full system.  I've changed things before in maint mode, and when the
|> full system boots, odm say's oh no you don't!

You have to kick everyone off the system, or the chdev command will complain
that the pty device is in use. I have had no trouble logging in on the console
and running the chdev you show (I do it from smit, but the command it builds
looks just like the one you show).

You can actually get more than 64 pty's by making links on your own.
The pattern is:

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     system        10 Jun 20 00:41 ptyp0@ -> /dev/ptc/0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     system        10 Jun 20 00:41 ptyp1@ -> /dev/ptc/1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     system        10 Jun 20 00:41 ptyp2@ -> /dev/ptc/2
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     system        10 Jun 20 00:41 ptyp3@ -> /dev/ptc/3

The system starts with ptyp[0-f], then goes to ptyq, ptyr and ptys. We just
continued the pattern with ptyt, ptyu, ptyv and ptyw. Seems to work ok, and
lets more people log into our compute server. Never had odm or anyone else
gripe about it.

*) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *)!(* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (*
Jo Ann Malina, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu  -or-  415/926-2846
Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:07:00 EST
From:         XHIDALGO@ECUAFUN.BITNET
Subject:      DOMAIN NAME SERVER

Folks, I have a question:
My machine is RISC 320H, I configurated the format domain name, have the files
named.boot:
           domain       ec
primary      ec                /etc/named.data
           primary      .in-addr.arpa     /etc/named.rev
           primary .0.0.127.in-addr.arpa   /etc/named.lo
           cache        .                 /etc/named.ca

I defined the files named.*, In named.data I have the record SOA, the same in
named.rev, in named.lo is localhost, in NAMED.CA have name servers that resolve
the other addresses, but I have a problem, if I do ping harvard.edu, I wait for
 a minutes and respond me that host unknown, but if I repeat the ping harvard.e
du, the machine answer me correctly. If I do a kill /2 pid (dumb) I see that in
 cache is that address. What should I do to have in the first try the answer?
 I have running the deamon named, routed too. Should I run the deamon gated ins
tead?. Please Help me.
Thanks for all.
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:31:16 +1000
From:         t.dao@ABN.NLA.GOV.AU
Subject:      How to read emacs-manual-6.0.dvi
X-To:         AIX-L@PUCC.Princeton.EDU

I have ftp'ed the emacs-manual-6.0.dvi but don't know how to read the
contents of it. The 'file' command tells that it is in 'data' format.
Could someone please tell me how or which utility should I use to access
its contents.

Many thanks.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:14:40 -0400
From:         Robert Williams BCS <RJWILLIA@ESTEC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DOMAIN NAME SERVER

 *** Reply to note of 92-08-19 08:50
 Why don't you start named in debug mode and also dump the cache. Your problem
 sounds like a reverse lookup problem, also check your named.rev file, regards.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:27:34 -0400
From:         Robert Williams BCS <RJWILLIA@ESTEC.BITNET>
Subject:      /usr filesystem

 *** Reply to note of 92-08-20 09:14
 1. backup /usr
 2. boot into maint and /etc/continue hdisk0
 3. umount /usrand rmfs /usr(check that stanza gone from /etc/filesystems)
 4.mklv -y hd2 rootvg X (X=no. of partitions)
 5.crfs -v jfs -m /usr -d /dev/hd2 -A
 6. restore /usr and edit /etc/filesystems back to original entry
 7. reboot


 regards...Rob.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:47:05 SET
From:         Klaus-Peter Nischke <UMA018@DDOHRZ11.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: How to read emacs-manual-6.0.dvi
              13 Aug 1992 12:31:16 +1000 from <t.dao@ABN.NLA.GOV.AU>

You have to install TeX (including some drivers as xdvi
(view *.dvi - files on X-Windows) or something like dvi2ps
(dvi -> postscript) or some printer - drvier).

-klaus
From: mstoller@gdalsrv.sas.upenn.edu (Matthew E. Stoller)
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Subject: User accounting facilities
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:45:44 GMT
Organization: Social Science Computing, University of Pennsylvania

Hi,

Are there any program available for AIX to limit the amount of disk space a 
user can use and the amount of idle time, before an automatic logout?

Thanks in advance.
			Matt Stoller
			Systems Manager, Social Science Computing
			Univ. of Penn.
			mstoller@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu

	
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:29:32 -0400
From:         Michael Black <usr10258@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      /usr/adm/messages
X-To:         aix-l@pucc.princeton.edu

Question.... running AIX 3.1 on PS/2 model 80s, and from time to time, the
/usr/adm/messages file grows astronically large and fills the filesystem.
These systems are remote to our corp office, and up until recently, the
procedure called for "removing" the /usr/adm/messages file.  I have since
corrected the situation to call for "clearing" it (cat < /dev/null > file),
but since some locations have had it deleted, the logging has stopped.  I
am assuming that the info is going to the proverbial bit bucket, but the info
is available for a reason.  I haven't seen any info that says "don't delete
this file", but I'm hesitant to implement such a situation.  While not having
the file would eliminate the possibility of it growing to oblivion, but on
the other hand something says not to.

Any thoughts?  Please reply via e-mail!   Thanks!

Michael Black    usr10258@tso.uc.edu
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:19:43 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Weird
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>    WHY NOT just go to the infinite focals/continuous bifocals, etc..??

I considered it but was not satisfied with the result of my survey of
people who had tried them.  Some liked them, some didn't.  It sounded to
me as if there would never be really clear vision -- that it would be
kind of a compromise at all distances.  And I don't see how they would
help the computer situation since you would still not be able to read
the screen from the whole lenses and thus would still get a crick in the
neck.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     reading again with the naked eye...
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:16:27 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I am off for a days.
Comments: To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>
              13 Aug 1992 02:31:00 EST from
              <185422285%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:31:00 EST Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366 said:
>so I expect I won't miss any messages. I also am going to Paris. I am
                                                           ^^^^^^
                         Oh, by the way.....how off-hand we world travelers
                           have become....(yeah, I'm jealous)

>off to visit my dad and step-mom. I have not seen them in about
>6 months so it should be interesting. Thank god for frequent flier

   have fun....don't do anything i wouldn't do.....  bring me back some
french postcards, or french librarian novels, or something....


>P.S. I am most sorry to miss the Republican convention but, trips happen.

   I can't imagine anything more boring....even more boring than the demo
one....of course back in the OLD days, things used to happen at them and
you didn't know who would win....and it could be interesting....

dan the old man
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:30:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Something interesting
Comments: To: Doretta Hanschka <ak743@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list WORDS-L <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>

> >I hear by the <grapevine> that I was hardly missed because *somebody*
> >named <Ruth> kept everyone busy in my absence.  Well I never!
> Wellllllll - I tried my best, Giggles, but <nobody> Compares 2 You.
>
Welllll, *I* heard from the horse's mouth that *somebody* kept
everyone entertained in the <nicest way possible>.
.
> >--ggs (back, with teeth flossed, ready to talk...)
> Sick of Corona?  Maybe some of Natalie's Maker's Mark is in order....
.
Actually, I was drinking mainly _Tecate_ because I like the nice
red and black can.... reminds me of Carling's Black Label... and
a little of _Old Mill-waulk-ee_  An occasional _Dos Equis_ too,
or _Tres_ if I was feeling really good.
>
> --
> Nethead, aka the Ruth Hanschka, hath enscribed herein, a message

It's almost time to compose the --you guessed it!-- WHTMIQR.
Plotkin can just tune out anytime now.....  And spend his life
wondering what he missed.
--ggs
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:30:27 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Soapbox/bullshit
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

> > Graham, as I have reason to know first-hand, is a provocative guy.:)
> evocative, not provocative.

Evocative of?
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:42:34 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Icons
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

> said.  To return to Natalie's bone buried in the yard--as far as
> the linguistic analogy is concerned, if you don't know there is a
> bone in the yard, there isn't one.

I disagree.  That buried bone can do things to the soil, whether you know
it's there or not.  And if it has sharp edges, it can cut your hand if
you're digging around it, not knowing it's there.  Etc.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:45:00 HST
From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Eeek! It's fall!!!!

>I'm getting worried.  Has anybody noticed which direction the woolly
>bears are going this year?

Not a woolly bear in sight, but the plovers have already begun to
return to Oahu from Alaska.  I think that means something.

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:46:26 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: List wars
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              92 4:02 pm

> >	Why, Evelyn... Because we *can*, of course.
>
> I know we can; we have that power.  But isn't the real strength having
> the power and choosing not to use it?

	Fuck no, Evelyn.  Have you ever read "Postcards from the Edge?"


Rita
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:57:28 EDT
From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi@CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The sole of a new machine
Comments: To: mjg@nwu.edu
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              at Aug 20, 92 3:35 pm

> So, Ken, is it fast?  690MP?
>
> --mjg

Hey, that's what we got, a 4/690MP.  It's all right, and does the
number crunching reasonably fast, thank you. :)
But, "talk" doesn't work, for some reason ...

rashmi
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