From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Subject: Re: Why we go for non-black women
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Distribution: world ,soc
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:06:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.165428.16689@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> q2tj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>Steve Chaney (the guy who started it all) writes:
>
>> 4) I posted this article to hurt some feelings in response. I wanted
>>    to drag you extremists out and take you on in a pitched battle
>>    because I'm tired of you hitting us, then ducking out of dodge
>>    when a response comes, so I just hit you folks first. 
>> 
>> The people I was looking for a conflict with, were:
>> 1) Intolerant militant sisters. 
>> 2) If not them, then at least an intolerant brother. 
>> 3) If not them, then at least some riff-raff out there that
>> thinks they're hot enough to put the opposition down. 
>>=======================================================
>
>Among many things, Mr. Chaney seems to dislike militancy.
>He also dislikes Malcolm X.
> 
>A militant is someone who wants to hurt other people,
>either with a gun for physical hurt, or with words for
>emotional hurt.  It's the warrior mentality at heart.

Well, whoever you are, it's not exactly like these people wanted to be
nice about it when I tried to confront the issue in a calm, logical,
reasonable manner. I mentioned mistreatment by black women, and they
came off with "Whatzamatter bro? Can't you handle her?" At least now,
when people say this, I have the pleasure of knowing I did something
mean enough to deserve it. It's a lot different than being dissed by
sisters (as you call them), while being nice. I hate getting dissed
while trying to be nice, more than anything in the world. Only a fool
endures this kind of treatment to get a point across. If you're going
to be abused for taking a stand, in my opinion, at least be abused for
hurting someone else's feelings. 


>Malcolm X usually had a militant mentality.  He said many
>things that were meant to hurt the feelings of white people,
>or the feelings of certain blacks who he disagreed with.
>No doubt it was vengeful payback for his past suffering.

But I come out openly with my intents. 
You'll be amazed at how nice those people are and how tolerant they
look and how they preach open-mindedness, until the issue of the
so-called "Jungle Fever" comes up. Then they get ugly. 


>This trait is also clearly shared by Mr. Chaney.  Funny to
>think that he's got something deep in common with Malcolm X.
>He's got the precise traits that he despises most.
> 
>Some people said they pitied him, but then they turn right
>around and say "I showed the post to a sister...we laughed at him"
>Others were more blunt and just flatly dumped acid on him, without
>paying any lip service towards "pity"  Patience was also in short
>supply.  I guess these people were militant too, to some extent.

Who asked for pity? I want to see the end of the days when I have to
answer to anyone for dating someone who happens not to be black. These
people can dump all the acid they want, but it doesn't hurt me. I only
resolve to put out more effort to discredit and harm the racial purity
faction of the "african-american" movement. If it means damaging the
whole institution, then it's of no consequence to me: I answer to no
one when it comes to who I date, and the woman who lectured me and who
prompted me to post to this newsgroup, as well as anyone on this
newsgroup, is no exception.

I just hope I gave some courage to others to stand up to you and stop
feeling like they have to answer to you on this issue. And in fact some
have e-mailed me saying they couldn't believe others felt like this.
THAT is worth everything - the flames, the unpopularity, even the
threat I posted to this newsgroup from that guy in Compton who is
planning to come up here and teach me a lesson. (Which will be
prevented because I will be collecting his phone #, address and so
forth, to report to the authorities. I will also obtain a picture of
him so I'll recognize him.) 

Finding people who disagree with the attitude that pissed me off and
made me post to this newsgroup, fulfilled my entire purpose. Now, you
can look forward to less flamage and more discrediting of these people
you accurately noted as militants.  
 
 
>We live in a nation of militants.....*everyone*; there are almost
>no exceptions.  It's funny to hear people say "...but Malcolm X
>was a militant...i don't like that...etc."  Any white (or black)
>person who can't relate directly to his militancy is a fool (or liar)!!!!
>And Mr. Chaney has willfully treated us to more militancy (but
>probably won't admit the connection)

Okay, I'll admit the connection. And now that I believe I've gotten
these people out into the open, those who think black people must
answer to other blacks for dating outside their race, I'll switch to
less militant means of providing other blacks more courage to stand up
to these people.  



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