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From: buds@hpubvwa.nsr.hp.com (Bud Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles thrashed! Ha Ha Ha! Go Boyz!
Date: 12 Jan 1993 05:46:41 GMT
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Skywalker (skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu) wrote:

: When "The Catch" was made, Troy Aikman 14 years old, Emmitt, 12. 
: The FOOTBALL GODS have spoken, the best two teams will play.

Yep!  But them are grown boys now, and it's pay back time!

Dallas 28 - 17.
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From: eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett)
Subject: Re: Coughlin refuses NY Giants Coaching Position
Organization: Abode Computer Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:35:37 GMT

In article <29312@oasys.dt.navy.mil> tobias@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Tobias) writes:
>In rec.sport.football.pro, Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes:
>>Hello, everyone!  Goooood Morning!
>>NEXT CANDIDATE:  Dave Wanstedt (sp?) (OOOOOOOH PULEEEEEZE GOD)  Quick,
>>someone help me think of a sacrifice we can offer to the Football Gods!
>>Adriene (ULTRA PSYCHED G's FAN)
>
>    I'm hoping that any of the following wind up coaching the Giants:
>
>       1- Bill Parcells
>       2- Dan Reeves
>       3- Mike Ditka

Being a Cowboy fan, I hope one of the three above is the next Giants coach
too!

Eric

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Subject: Candlestick mud
From: bsutesch@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:10:34 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

Will someone please explain to me why S.F. has
historically had such a bad (i.e., muddy) turf
problem in Candlestick?  I know that it was
built for baseball, thus no nape.  However, why
not install an underground drainage system?  Whoops,
that's right, I forgot that some idiot decided to
build a field that was BELOW sea level!  Oh, well.

Brian
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Posting game updates (was Re: The FAT LADY IS SINGING in BUFF
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:32:39 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


>OFCOURSE .... NO DALLAS... I HAVE ALREADY HAD ENOUGH OF THE
>AMERICA'S TEAM CRAP AND I SHUDDER TO THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN
>IF DALLAS WINS THE SB.
>
Have you read that a psychic has predicted just that?
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From: hbishop@ttsi.lonestar.org (Huett Bishop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: A Super Bowl Fantasye
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:28:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc.

In article <1993Jan6.052725.13243@wam.umd.edu> macole@wam.umd.edu (The Dude) writes:
>
>"Will Jimmy Johnson reveal his hair-care secrets?"
>
>Mousse, I think...But I still don't know how it can stay so still when he's
>storming up and down the sidelines..
What do you think TV Timeouts are for.

Head Lines Man: Uh Oh! JJ got a hair outta place call time, go to a commerical! 


>
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From: piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL)
Subject: Re: Grass field at 49er's
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:57:14 GMT

mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
greg@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (greg) writes:
>>I just saw on the local (SF) news that they are replacing the
>>torn up grass at Candlestick.  The groundskeeper said that they
>>are removing the blugrass (destroyed Sat.) with new bermuda
>>grass.
>
>Sure enough -- imported from Palm Desert.  I have great respect for
>George Toma, but what he expects to accomplish with a replant 5 days
>before a game is beyond me.  Even if this were summer, 5 days is
>nowhere near enough time for sod to put roots down.
>
>Unless the sod is about two feet deep, I still don't see how it's
>going to help anybody.


	In the NFL world, where money is nothing, it wouldn't surprise 
	one bit if they actually brought in *huge* chunks of sod and dirt
	that were ... oh, say hash to hash wide, ten yards long, and 2 feet
	deep with dirt. Would be great publicity for the niners, watching   
	helicopters haul in the dirt on big platforms, and slide the
	sheets into place.

	Actually, not a bad idea. Perhaps one day they'll be able to keep
	a spare field on near by, and switch them at half time...

:-)
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From: danforth@trinity.llnl.gov (Bill A. Danforth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Wildcard team hosting a playoff
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:44:51 GMT

Hello all,

Just wondering.  This year we could have a conference championship game
hosted by a wildcard team ('Skins @ Eagles).  Has this ever occured before?

It won't in the AFC as one of the games is AFC/West @ AFC/East champs.

Thanks in advance,
Bill Danforth
danforth2@llnl.gov
From: aok@rice.berkeley.edu (Alan Kamas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Canadians and the NFL
Date: 13 Jan 1993 00:54:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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Since Canadian Football is available here in the US on a cable
network, I was wondering if US Football is available in Canada?
Can people in Montreal or Ottawa watch the playoff games?  Is
the NFL popular at all in Canada?  (or are the games only watched
by displaced Americans?)

Just Curious,

- Alan Kamas
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Is there one HONEST Bills fan?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 14:44:46 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
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We all must give the Buffalo fans a tip of the hat, 35-3 cold and 
raining and they ALL remained in their seats, those are fans folks.
Most stadiums would have been empty in the third quarter. Think how
bad the fans that left feel now....

Cheers' Buffalo !

Go Cowboys !!!!
tim
From: cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Parsells to Patriots???
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:40:14 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <104329@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>>Parsells is the man to do it.  Its a good fit for a team to rebuild.
>
>The latest ESPN rumour is that a group of investors including Bill Parcells
>is interested in purchasing the franchise.  This group would then install
>Bill as their head coach and... get this, Will McDonough (the guy from NFL
>Live) as the general manager.  

???! huh?! really?!

what?!

I'd love it if this was more than a rumor!

Parcells simple inst a very good commentator.
As for McDonough, I believe he writes for the Boston Globe,
and I know he follows the Patriots... he even mentioned them from
time to time this seaon, unlike everybody else on the pregame shows.

I think Will has a great head on his sholders and would do a much better
job than "Weird Sam Jancovich".

This would be my dream a a pats fan...

Parcell a head coach,  MacPherson back as asistant head coach,
McDonough a general manager!


>
>The Pats don't really need much rebuilding... their D is decent and their
>O line has been rebuilding for the last few drafts (Pat Harlow, Eugene
>Chung) and they'll probably end up with a franchise QB this year.  What they
>need is someone who can get them to play up to their talent and either
>Parcells or Ditka would fit the bill.

I agree that the defense doesn't need much more, but it does need
something, Add one good CB or saftey, and the defense would be 
a good bit better.

Some people will argue that the statistics show that the Pat's defense
is actually really bad.

but, statistics lie. You have to keep in mind that the 
offense kept the defense on the field for incredible amounts of time.
This makes it hard on your defense to succeed.

especially in the second half as the defense tires.
First halfs were actually not bad to the patriots this seaon because
the defense kept them in the game.. but second halves were disastrous!

As for the offense... big problems. It's not just the talent pool.
it's injury, and poor coaching a well. The offense certainly needs
more talent, especially at WR and perhaps one more lineman would be
nice.

add good coaching to that and they could be VASTLY improved over this
year.


As for the draft?

trade down again.
get two high quality players, and some decent coaching
and this team may be scrapping for .500 next year.

Some big ifs.

more likely they will get 2 to 4 wins.

but thats ok when rebuilding, (but you can't rebuild over 10 years)

perhaps a good topic for discussion is how long a rebuilding program 
shold take before it becomes ineffective?

I'd say 5 years is probably the absolute maximum time... otherwise
you starts losing too many players to age or injury. So the 
Patriots have about 2 or 3 years before they have probably
failed in an attempt to rebuild.

Anyone looking to rebuild ought to look at Dallas!!!

how long did it take them?
was it about 4 years?




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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: Bills suck !
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:09:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
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Oh! How I love a good looser, keep up the good work dude!
From: azjohn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (John Paul Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Coughlin refuses NY Giants Coaching Position
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:47:48 GMT
Organization: NASA - Langley Research Center
Distribution: world
Reply-To: azjohn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (John Paul Phillips)
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In article <1993Jan8.002442.3999@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) 
writes:
> 
> In article <1ii5ipINN7rc@rave.larc.nasa.gov> azjohn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov 
(John Paul 
> Phillips) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan7.010839.2059@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM 
(JOHN) 
> >writes:
> >> In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.93.0@QM.cis.YALE.EDU> 
> >> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes:
> >
> Ah, my namesake brethen speaks again! I, JOHN PAUL, to another JOHN PAUL,
> hereby confess my WEAKNESS and LUST for ALN. I publicly ask for forgivness.
> I will repent and abstain 'till next football season. Hmmmm, isn't soccer 
> also referred to as "football". Whew, not a very long abstinence! :-) WOOF!
> GRRRRRRRRR!
> 
Aha! so you finally confess! Okay, I'll forgive you if ALN does. As to that
bit about soccer, you'll have to move to a country where they refer to soccer
as football before you may end your penance. Why do I have to share names with
thios guy??!! One was bad enough, but TWO names? Argh!

> >> >Damn, where is my net.football.savior when I NEED him?
> >> >
> >Sorry, but my steed threw a horseshoe.
> >
> A real man, such as myself, would have carried the damn steed on my
> back and rescued the poor maiden, aka ALN. 
> >
Hmmm... I see that my line was ambiguous. I was apologizing for the delay
in coming to ALN's rescue, and giving the reason for it. I have been quite
busy this week and was rushed when I posted the last one (JPG, some of us
actually have a life, you know). Actually, I just ran; carrying the steed 
would have wasted time. I had to walk the way back to my steed completely
armored.

COWBOYS FOREVER!

           John Paul Phillips
                  "Azjohn"
NASA - Langley Research Center
        Hampton, Virginia, USA
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From: nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Subject: Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:42:24 GMT

> Hamish says:
>
>American footballers are nothing but a bunch of pumped up junkies.To call
>it a sport is an injustice to all proper sports.It seems to me more of
      .... deleted ....

Some of your observations are true, but not in sweeping generalities.  It
is true that there is a drug problem in American football, and it is true
that athletes are given far more second chances than others, and it is 
true that the NFL and NCAA have been slow to respond to the problem.  I
live in Texas which is one of the hotbeds of football, and it never ceases
to amaze me what "normal" people will do and say in the name of football.

I do, however, take exception to you making generalized and prejudicial
statements based on hyped media exposure.  I played football through high
school, and there were always a few players using steroids or speed to 
enhance their performance, but 95% of the guys I played with did so because
they loved the game and loved to play.  We practiced 10-12 hours per week
during the season, and did strength and aroebic conditioning early in the
mornings and after practice so we could perform to the best of our abilities.
American football is more of a team sport than any sport I know of, requiring
the inter-meshed performances of 11 players on every down to perform success-
fully, and I am proud of the physical skills and life skills I developed while
playing the sport.

It is true that real men play soccer, but they play football and rugby and
cubardee chess and the trombone as well.  Real men do not belittle other
sports to glorify their own chosen hobby.

>So chew on that you self-serving, arogant illigitimates.

This may be your own epitath.

Nix
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Fat lady is singing
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:52:45 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <schnitzi.726688903@eola.cs.ucf.edu> schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:
>Uh oh... The Eagles just went up 3-0.  I can hear the fat lady warming
>up her voice...
>
>mark

Hahahahahaha . . . whew.  I bet you wish you had *this* one back, Mark!

Daniel Welch
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From: bermes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Terry Bermes)
Subject: Lambeau Field question
Organization: AT&T Looney Bin
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:44:28 GMT

	I've recently heard some rumors related to Lambeau Field that
I was hoping someone more in the know could respond to:  The rumors
are that the Packers have asked the city of Green Bay to put some sort
of a dome on Lambeau Field and that the city of De Pere has offered to
build a stadium for the Packers.  Can anyone substantiate either of
these rumors?

terry
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan )
Subject: Madden is an Idiot.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:23:20 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

I used to like to listen to John "MAD" den before, but not
anymore.  As long as he sticks to the chalk board it is
OK, but it gets irrittating when he goes on rambling endlessly
on some silly and unconnected things like a total idiot.

Yesterday, during the Eagles/Saints game, it got *horrible*
and I muted the TV and put on the Radio commentary. 
And for his stupid rambling about the refree who was injured
in a fracas during the game .... What more needs to be said.

And he always goes into *orgasm* whenever the name Dallas
Cowboys is mentioned and the doddering starts all over. 
Can't he keep shut atleast for a while and allow the poor
fans to watch the game.
I do not know why people like to
be included in the All- MAD-den team.  He is getting senile
and denigrating into a total fool.

S.H
(The Purple Bleeder)
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From: labelle@hfglobe.intel.com (George La Belle)
Subject: Re: Eagles-Aints
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:07:38 GMT

rrn@stein.u.washington.edu (X Visser) writes:

>Dump Hebert? 
>Not!

>Get to the source, and dump Mora. Every time I have ever watched him coach
>a close game in the fourth, he'd call some boneheaded, dumbass play and lose


	Dump both! Hebert rattles easy and throws very poor passes - I
	predicted this outcome before the game. Like Robinson, previously
	with the Rams, Mora plays too conservative with a lead - he's done
	it everytime in big games.

		A 49er fan who knows the Aints

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From: nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Subject: Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:41:51 GMT

> So chew on that you self-serving, arogant illigitimates.

Hamish, we never claimed to be legitimate.  Americans are to illigit to
quit, always have been, always will be.  We take pride in our cultural
and racial diversity, on being a collection of mutts and mongrels. Our
diversity makes us strong and creative, and that is why the United States
of America is the greatest country in the history of mankind.

American football is a perfect game for the USA, rough-and-tumble, gladiatorial,
and a staging ground for showboating, trash-talking world-class athletes who
could excel in the sport of their choice, even soccer.  Football is a mirror
of America, and until you've sat in the stands of a football game with fellow
Americans in frigid conditions screaming and yelling as 22 men give their all
on a muddy field, keep your opinions to yourself.

At least we don't riot and kill one another as is the custom of your soccer-
loving fellow British.  Americans understand that football is a just a game,
not to be confused with real life.

So choke on that, jerk!

Nix

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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Niners Defeat Deadskins, Selves
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:17:17 GMT

The San Francisco Forty-Niners took the first postseason step toward
the Big Dance this afternoon by defeating the Washington Redskins 20-13
in a game that was well-played in all aspects.


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What a piece of garbage.  This was a mostly spastic, fluky and 
utterly ugly game by both teams.  After an impressive drive by the
Niners on their first possession for a TD (which was mostly attained
by passing), both teams settled in for an afternoon of "Can You Top
This?"  Lowlights included:

o Steve Young almost undoing his fine passing day with 3 (that's not
  a typo -- THREE) lost fumbles, two of which were truly wierd.  The
  first wierd one came after a nice run, when Steve slid, *got back up* and
  lost the handle.  The second came on Young's attempt to draw the ball
  back for a pass and succeeded in flipping the ball ten feet into the air.

o The entire Deadskins offense.  All 13 of their points came off of Niner
  turnovers.  Mitchell was their leading rusher with 38 yards (half of
  Young's total).  'Nuff said.

o Though I already mentioned the Washington offense, Mark Rypien deserves
  his own dishonorable mention.  Rypien was intercepted twice on passes 
  that could best be called coyote-ugly, consistently under- and overthrew
  recievers that were wide open, and fumbled a handoff during a drive
  that could have put the Deadskins ahead.  Mark would have looked quite
  appropriate in a Raiders jersey today.

o Jerry Rice dropping a *perfect* pass late in the game when the score
  was 17-13.  That could have been a turning point.

o The Candlestick field.  From the looks of the soggy turf, this field
  is in as bad shape as it was in '81.  As crummy as both teams played,
  it's hard to tell who the field detracted from the least (I refuse
  to say it "benefitted" either team), but by game's end, both offensive
  and defensive lines seemed to be moving in slow motion.  That must
  be brutal for a lineman to play in that stuff -- it's a combination
  of running and swimming.  It's not likely to get any better for 
  next week, either.

For the Deadskins:  you were lucky to be here, and it showed.  A better
effort might have beaten the stumbling, snake-bitten Niners, but you
were down to the task of out-losing to them.

For the Niners:  shower up and hit the film room.  A repeat performance
next week against either the Eagles or the Bowboys will almost surely
result in your trading in your tix to Pasadena.

Somehow I thought I'd enjoy this game more...
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From: nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Subject: The More Thing Change ...
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:37:15 GMT

The More They Stay the Same.  Five of the current playoff teams have played
in at least 4 Superbowls (Dallas, SF, Washington, Miami, Pittsburgh).  Buffalo
has played in the last 2 Superbowls.  The only newcomers are Philadelphia, who
made one trip 12 years ago and lost, and San Diego, who has never been that
far.

It is odd that the dominant teams of the 70s are resurging; meanwhile many teams
who were bad in the 70's and 80's still stink.

Nix
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From: 6069870@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: 90 THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 06:49:04 PST



well, to start, you should not even be posting to pro F ball with a name
like: H a m i s h.  HAAAAA!  Second: soccer is a fag sport. Might as well
use the head in this sport cause there aint no brains worth saving. You
come meet a couple pro F ball players and tell them your stupid opinion,
they'd step on a soccer player like he was DOG SHIT on the bottom of a foot.
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
For the regular readers of this newsgroup, some of you might remember
a couple a artilcles written intiled crap football, well it's back after
a long absence.
American footballers are nothing but a bunch of pumped up junkies.To call
it a sport is an injustice to all proper sports.It seems to me more of
a competition to see who can take the most steroids without killing
themselves, or getting caught.Well actually the chance of getting caught
is remote as the teams and the N.F.L seem to condone the the use of these
drugs, and are doing little to stop it.
What's the punishment for being the best college footballer and getting
caught using drugs? You get a mult-million dollar contract for one of
the best teams in the country.Call me stupid, but it's hardly
a deterent.
It's time drugs abuse was stoped in football.Then again if
they did that there would'nt be any decent players left.Without drugs
your guys would'nt even get a game for a school rugby team over here.
American Football is a sport? for wimps, and poofs without the commitment
to make it without drugs.
So chew on that you self-serving, arogant illigitimates.

Real men play soccer

Hamish

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