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From: mkc@Graphics.Cornell.edu (Mitch Collinsworth)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Help installing perl on Ultrix RISC 4.1
Date: 23 Nov 1992 12:26:02 -0500
Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics, Ithaca, NY
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rex.graphics.cornell.edu

Greetings.  I have made a few iterations now on trying to install perl
on a DECstation 5000 and don't seem to be successful.  Everything
compiles ok, but when I run "make test" afterward I get the following 3
errors:

op/eval........FAILED on test 9
op/s...........FAILED on test 40
lib/big........../lib/bigint.pl did not return a true value at ./lib/big.t line 2.

Per the README clues I tried adding -DCRIPPLED_CC and also tried
disabling optimization by adding -O0 (but not both at the same time) and
got the same results each time.  I will admit that I made some guesses
during Configure as I didn't know all the answers off the top of my
head.

If there is a well-known answer to this problem I would appreciate
someone forwarding it to me.  Otherwise if I could look at the config.sh
from a system on which it is working properly perhaps that would be of
help.  Thanks for any assistance.

-Mitch Collinsworth
 mitch@graphics.cornell.edu
From: merlyn@ora.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: UUDECODE and perl ...
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:49:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: romulus.MERLYN.92Nov16094946
	<1992Nov11.134119.15928@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
	<1992Nov11.150851.10057@news.eng.convex.com>
	<MERLYN.92Nov11094326@romulus.reed.edu>
	<sjaak.721911835@athena.research.ptt.nl>
Organization: Stonehenge Consulting Services; Portland, Oregon, USA

In article <sjaak.721911835@athena.research.ptt.nl> sjaak@athena.research.ptt.nl (Sjaak Schilperoort) writes:
   And here is my patch to Randal's program to allow unpacking more than
   one file at a time. Very handy when, say from nn, you pipe all parts of
   10 binaries through uumerge (the parts have to be in the right order, but
   for me they usually are).

Ooof!  Ooof!  The *least* you could've done with that patch is
*remove* my name from the author comments.

Gasp.  A "goto".  Eeek.

Anyway, *don't* distribute that version with my name on it.  I have
the remains of a reputation to protect. :-)

Maybe Larry will just finally remove goto's from Perl 5.0. That'll fix
the lot of 'ya. :-)

@a=("hacker,",Perl,another,Just);again:print pop(@a)," ";goto again if@a
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From: g92k4260@ru.ac.za (Bryan Kilian)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: MSDOS Perl
Date: 17 Nov 92 10:49:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: hippo.1992Nov17.104940.1395
Reply-To: csbk@alpha.ru.ac.za
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

This may be a FAQ and I apologise if it is, but is there a version of perl
that will run on a PC/XT? I would love to be able to use my Perl programs on
my PC but I'm not sure if it's possible.

 And yes.. I do still have a PC/XT and not a 386/486 :-)

Bryan

/////////////////////////: csbk@alpha.ru.ac.za ://////////////////////////
// Bryan Kilian        // If it can't be expressed in figures, it is    //
// Rhodes University   // not science, it is opinion.                   //
// South Africa        //                            - R. A. Heinlein   //
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  Disclaimer: My views are my own. I pity anyone that thinks otherwise.
From: lwall@netlabs.com (Larry Wall)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: Questions on Perl Source Code.
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:14:56 GMT
Organization: NetLabs, Inc.

In article <5445@daily-planet.concordia.ca> marcap@cs.concordia.ca (PAWLOWSKY marc) writes:
: 
: Due to a nasty gotch'a in the 80486 my port of PERL has trouble
: with integers.  In particular 1 becomes 1.000000000000000056.

I'd say your sprintf is badly busted...

: Now this little beast cause trouble on unformatted outputs, and
: when lists are joined, and even trouble with boolean operators.

Certainly.

: Now the question is can anybody tell me where are doubles converted
: to strings (is it in sprintf statements allover?)

Only one place matters for your purposes.  Look for sprintf() in str.c.

: Can anybody
: tell mhere are the logical operators implemented (e.g. ||, &&, ...).

Those are in eval.c, but I don't think you'll need to touch them.

: Is there a document somewhere that helps explan the C source code.
: I'm looking for some type of overview, explaining what the data 
: structures are, flow control, tht type of thing.

An internals document?  Yikes.  If I did that, Perl would now be 582
languages instead of one language.

Besides, it'd all be obsolete now anyway.  Perl 5 doesn't even have
str.c or eval.c!  I recommend that you not spend too much time cozying
up to my old code, unless perhaps you're a psychologist, or need one.

: Thanks

You're welcome.

: P.S.  Hint for next version of PERL, include an integer type
: that is freely converted between doubles, strings, and integers
: so this type of portability problem disappears.

The ideal in a language like Perl is that scalars always look like
strings to the casual observer, with numeric optimizations occurring
internally.  Though it doesn't currently, Perl 5's compiler could
easily analyze return types and arguments to see where integers can be
substituted for doubles.  Perl 4's compiler simply can't do this,
because it needlessly defers too many decisions to run-time.  It's
one of the reasons I completely scrapped the old compiler.

Larry
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: daniel@nstn.ns.ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Doctor/Eliza
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:36:55 GMT

Hello!

As a service to customers, I'd like to bring up an Eliza/Doctor who listens
patiently on a port, sort of a confessional arrangement.  There are several
elizas, written in abc, Lisp, and Emacs, but I just can't be bothered
bringing up a huge environment just to run one application- and I'm not
sure how appropriate they would be to a standalone application anyway.

Has anyone cast this historic piece of code in our favourite of all
environments?  If you have, or you know of one, please, drop me a line.

Just Another Perl Dr.
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	Daniel MacKay				daniel@nstn.ns.ca
	NOC Manager, NSTN Operations Centre	902-494-NSTN
	Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: meekj@jmsun.Cyanamid.COM (Jon Meek)
Subject: put support in ftplib.pl?
Reply-To: meekj@jmsun.Cyanamid.COM
Organization: American Cyanamid Company
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:43:03 GMT

Has anyone added "put" or "send" support to Gene Spafford's ftplib.pl?
If so I would appreciate getting a copy.

Thank you, Jon Meek  American Cyanamid Company Princeton, NJ
meekj@pt.cyanamid.com




Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: chappell@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Glenn Chappell)
Subject: flock bug? man page error?
Organization: Math Dept., University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:05:03 GMT

I am writing a utility in Perl which will need to use file locking.

The section of the Perl man page describing the "flock" command gives a
mailbox appender for BSD systems. As a test, I wrote the following
program, slightly modified from the one given in the man page. It
appends the line "test" to the file whose name is given to it as a
command line parameter. It uses file locking to make sure that it still
works if you run several copies of it at once.

Unfortunately, this program doesn't work properly. When I run 32 copies
of it more-or-less simultaneously, somewhere around 22 "test" lines get
appended to the given file. However, if I change the "print" to a
"syswrite", it works, and I get 32 appended lines.

Specifically, I changed 

print FILE $msg;

to

syswrite(FILE, $msg, length($msg));

and it worked. Do any of you wonderful people have any idea what's going
on here? Does this mean the man page needs to be changed?

The program:

----------------------------------------
#!/usr/local/bin/perl

$LOCK_SH = 1;
$LOCK_EX = 2;
$LOCK_NB = 4;
$LOCK_UN = 8;

sub lock {
    flock(FILE,$LOCK_EX);
    # and, in case someone appended
    # while we were waiting...
    seek(FILE, 0, 2);
}

sub unlock {
    flock(FILE,$LOCK_UN);
}

open(FILE, ">>$ARGV[0]")
     || die "Can't open file: $!";

do lock();
$msg = "test\n";
print FILE $msg;
do unlock();
----------------------------------------

				Glenn Chappell  <><

P.S. Versions & such:

The box in front of me says "Sun 3/50" on it. I'm running SunOS 4.1.1_U1.

perl -v saith:

]This is perl, version 4.0
]
]$RCSfile: perl.c,v $$Revision: 4.0.1.6 $$Date: 91/11/11 16:38:45 $
]Patch level: 19
]
]Copyright (c) 1989, 1990, 1991, Larry Wall
]
]Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
]GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 4.0 source kit.
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Non blocking open of FIFO: Can it be done in perl?
Keywords: O_NDELAY in open on a FIFO
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:50:31 GMT

In article <mcook.722100624@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com> mcook@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com (Michael Cook) writes:
>bmarlowe@ka.reg.uci.edu (Brett Marlowe) writes:
>
>>is the there a way to specify O_NDELAY on an open call?
>
>No, but you can tweak the filehandle afterwards.  See fcntl.

Ummm, afterwards won't ever come if there isn't another process on
the other end of the FIFO.

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: Difficulties running a Perl/tip job from cron
Date: 22 Nov 92 11:41:42 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Distribution: comp
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

In article <DOWDING.92Nov20113240@palm.ai.sri.com> , 
	dowding@ai.sri.com (John Dowding) writes 
>The details: I want to run a daily program that logs into a remote
>(non-unix site), runs a variety of commands to download some
>information (OK, basketball box scores), and exits. 

Now there are many tip like programs with macro commands. For example,
xcomm, tipx or pcomm. You may not like them, though. So I wrote
a tip in perl.

>This script works fine when called from the csh command line, but
>when called from cron fails with an infinite loop of 
>"can't synchronize with hayes" messages.

I'm not sure but you can check ~/.tiprc. Did you try it in /bin/sh by
hand?

---
Shinji Kono @           kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc,Japan
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Non blocking open of FIFO: Can it be done in perl?
Keywords: O_NDELAY in open on a FIFO
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:42:08 GMT

In article <bmarlowe.722046368@ka> bmarlowe@ka.reg.uci.edu (Brett Marlowe) writes:

>I'm using FIFO as a rendezvouz point between two entirely different
>systems.  My question is... is the there a way to specify O_NDELAY on
>an open call? Alternatively is there a way to make sure there is a
>reader on the other end of the FIFO?

At least on sysVish machines, opening a FIFO for read/write access
is non-blocking.  As a side effect you won't ever see EOF even
if the other processes open and close the fifo repeatedly, so reads
will always wait for some data which is what you usually want for the
case of one reader process acting as some kind of server to one or more
writing process.

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
From: john@sekrit.WPI.EDU (John Stoffel)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: Need tidbit of code to look up user's full name
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:39:07
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sekrit.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: fontana@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu's message of 19 Nov 92 02:51:21 GMT

>>>>> On 19 Nov 92 02:51:21 GMT, fontana@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) said:
Mark> Article-I.D.: cis.1992Nov19.025121.4550


Mark> Hi,

Mark> I'm just beginning to learn perl, and I would like to have a program
Mark> determine the first name of the user invoking it.  Presently, it
Mark> gets the user's login name through environment variable USER.  I
Mark> would like the program to determine the user's full name (by checking
Mark> the gecos(?) field).  I'd appreciate it if someone could give an
Mark> example of how to do this.

#!/usr/local/bin/perl

@user = getpwuid($<);
@name = split(/ /,$user[6],2);
print "$name[0]\n";


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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: skdutta@ucs.att.com (Saumen Dutta)
Subject: Perl Transparencies and slides
Organization: AT&T Universal Card Services, Jacksonville FL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:24:40 GMT


Hi Perlxperts!

	I am planning to present Perl in a departmental Internal Seminar.
I would appreciate if any of you can give me some pointers to any slides/
transparancies which I can get free ( also tutorials!!!)

Thanks
skdutta
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.unix.ultrix
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Subject: Re: Perl program 'aub' crashes ULTRIX 4.2A
Keywords: perl,ultrix,crash,open files
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:56:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.200224.15289@odin.corp.sgi.com> stantz@sierra.corp.sgi.com (Mark Stantz) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.153208.11855@dxcern.cern.ch> dietrich@dxcern.cern.ch 
>  (Dietrich Wiegandt) writes:
>>some users here use the Perl program 'aub' (assemble usenet binaries),
>>Author stantz@sgi.com, to process image files received via USENET.
>>Somehow this program seems to manage to corrupt the open file table in the
>>user area so that ULTRIX crashes e.g. when the program is exiting and the
>
>	It's not at all likely, despite appearances, that aub is responsible
>for corrupting your disk.  [...]
>
>	Your problem is more likely, in estimated order of probability:
>
>	1) That your disk was already corrupt when aub started running,
>	   and that its disk activity merely exacerbated an existing 
>	   problem.
>	2) A bug in your port of perl.
>	3) A bug in Ultrix.

I concur that it's highly, highly unlikely that aub is directly responsible
for the problem.  However, knowing Ultrix quite well, I would change the
order of likely causes to the following...

   1) Prior file-system corruption
   2) A bug in Ultrix
   3) 1 & 2, both
   4) Another bug in Ultrix
   5) A bug in the Ultrix compiler your Perl was compiled with
   6) Another bug in Ultrix
   ...
  99) A bug in your port of Perl

Ok, this post rates a "8-)" but only a little one.

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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: jns@ace.nas.nasa.gov (John N. Stewart)
Subject: [WANTED] Script to handle find.codes databases
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:04:37 GMT
Distribution: usa


Anyone written a file handler for the "fastfind" find.codes database?
I am looking for one ... thanx for any pointers.

--Ace
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: lalonde@semifs1 (Terry Lalonde)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: Need tidbit of code to look up user's full name
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:07:20 GMT
Reply-To: lalonde@semi.mitel.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mitel Semiconductor

fontana@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:


>Hi,

>I'm just beginning to learn perl, and I would like to have a program
>determine the first name of the user invoking it.  Presently, it
>gets the user's login name through environment variable USER.  I
>would like the program to determine the user's full name (by checking
>the gecos(?) field).  I'd appreciate it if someone could give an
>example of how to do this.

>Thanks,

>Mark Fontana

Try:

                    ($first,$last) = split(' ',(getpwuid($<))[6]);
Terry

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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: jon@cas.org (Jon Vander Hill)
Subject: bug/typo in 4.035 bigfloat.pl
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:34:30 GMT


In our Perl 4.035 distribution, bigfloat.pl generates the
following syntax error:

-> perl -c /usr/perl/lib/bigfloat.pl
syntax error in file /usr/perl/lib/bigfloat.pl at line 70, next 2 tokens "=^"
/usr/perl/lib/bigfloat.pl had compilation errors.

The bad line is:

    vec($_,0,8) =^ ord('+') ^ ord('-') unless $_ eq '+0E+0'; # flip sign

and should be:

    vec($_,0,8) ^= ord('+') ^ ord('-') unless $_ eq '+0E+0'; # flip sign

Jon Vander Hill
jon@cas.org
From: tcking@uswnvg.com (Tim King)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: looking for FAQ
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:08:01 GMT
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Garner Halloran (kheldar@prism.gatech.EDU) wrote:
: Could someone please direct me to the FAQ for this newsgroup (assuming it
: exists)?  I checked news.answers and it was not listed at my site.
: 
: Thanks.

You will find this info at convex.com in pub/perl/info/faq.

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Xref: sparky comp.lang.perl:7092 comp.os.os2.programmer:6605
From: rommel@jonas.gold.sub.org (Kai Uwe Rommel)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: perl, OS/2, and characters above \x7f
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 20:59:43 MET
Organization: Private

In article <1992Nov21.020356.4544@netcom.com> xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:
>I'm trying to parse a file that uses \xe3 as record separators. 
>However, the following doesn't work:
>
>$/ = "\xe3";
>
>while (<>) {
>  chop;
>  print;
>  print "\n";
>}
>
>It seems to spit the entire file back out, with the \xe3 characters
>unchanged.  And I'm stumped.  I'm not sure if perl has problems with
>characters > \x7f, or if it's the OS/2 port I'm using (perl4035.zip from
>hobbes.nmsu.edu), or what's going on here.  But any help would be
>appreciated.

It may be a problem with signed/unsigned characters. I have recorded
the bug report but will probably not have time to work on it for a
while. In case you really need that and don't mind the work of
recompiling it (with emx 0.8e) you may want to do that with the
additional option -funsigned-chars to gcc and try again. Just in case
it's that simple.

Kai Uwe Rommel

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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: mike@meiko.com (Mike Stok)
Subject: Re: Need tidbit of code to look up user's full name
Organization: Meiko Scientific Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:34:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.025121.4550@cis.ohio-state.edu> fontana@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:
>I'm just beginning to learn perl, and I would like to have a program
>determine the first name of the user invoking it.  Presently, it
>gets the user's login name through environment variable USER.  I
>would like the program to determine the user's full name (by checking
>the gecos(?) field).  I'd appreciate it if someone could give an
>example of how to do this.

Assuming that the user's first name is the first thing in the gcos
field in the password file then this should work...

$name = (split (' ', (getpwuid ($<))[6], 2))[0];

If you're just beginning to learn perl I would *strongly* recommend
getting hold of a copy of the "Camel book" ("programming perl" by
Larry Wall and Randal Schwartz, published by O'Reilly & Associates,
and if my copy hadn't been borrowed I could give you the ISBN :-).

Mike

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From: cwilson@snarf.wpd.sgi.com (Chan Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Regex question
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:35:51 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: fddi-snarf.wpd.sgi.com


I thought I knew how to do this... guess I don't.  I want to have
something like this:

($suit, $pip) = /(\S+) of (Spade|Heart|Club|Diamond)/;

but that doesn't work.  What will?

--Chan
       Chan Wilson  ---  cwilson@sgi.com  ---  415/390-5006
	      Silicon Graphics, Inc.   Mountain View, CA
       -> The only stupid question is the one not asked. <-
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: henkp@cs.ruu.nl (Henk Penning)
Subject: Re: Flatfile db recommendations 
Summary: jinx/cterm is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:31:27 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In ... Alan Stebbens <aks%anywhere@hub.ucsb.edu> writes:

> > Has anyone invented a general purpose flatfile database in perl?  My boss 

> My recommendation is either "Jinx", by Peter Henning, ...

  Henk Penning, actually.

> And here are the ones for Jinx: (archie -s "jinx") [deleted]

  Please fetch this stuff from the Utrecht archive, instructions below.

  Thanks for the plug Allen ;-).		===  HenkP  ===

Henk P. Penning, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University.
Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands.
Telephone: +31-30-534106, NIC-handle: HPP1.
e-mail   : henkp@cs.ruu.nl (uucp to sun4nl!ruuinf!henkp)
________________________________________________________________________
  We, Computer Science department, Utrecht University,  are  running  an
anonymous  FTP  server  on  one  of  our systems. In addition to the FTP
service we're also running a mail  server,  for  those  of  you  without
direct Internet access.


--> How to get 'jinx/cterm' via anonymous FTP:

    Site:     ftp.cs.ruu.nl  [131.211.80.17]
    Login:    "anonymous" or "ftp"
    Password: your own email address (you@your_domain)
    file:
      /pub/PERL/cterm.shar.Z
      /pub/PERL/jinx.ps.Z
      /pub/PERL/jinx.shar.Z


--> How to get 'jinx/cterm' via e-mail from our mail-server:

    NOTE: In the following I have assumed that your mail address is
	  "fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu"; of course you must substitute
	  your own address for this.

	  | Please use a VALID DOMAIN ADDRESS.
	  | Use 'hip!hop!user' if you must.
	  | Never use an address which has both '!' and '@' in it.
	  | Bitnetters use user@host.bitnet


    Send the following message to
		mail-server@cs.ruu.nl
    or the old-fashioned path alternative
		uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!ruuinf!mail-server


    begin
    path fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu (SUBSTITUTE _YOUR_ ADDRESS)
    send PERL/cterm.shar.Z
    send PERL/jinx.ps.Z
    send PERL/jinx.shar.Z
    end


The path command can be deleted if we receive a valid from address in your
message. If this is the first time you use our mail server, we suggest you
first issue the request:

      send HELP


  A complete "ls-lR" listing of the archive is  kept  in  the  top-level
directory, it will be updated every night. To get it, issue the command:

     send ls-lR.Z



  That's all for now. If you encounter problems using  the  FTP  service
and/or the mail-server, feel free to drop me a line (by e-mail, please).


Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl