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From: mdlyons@vcsesu.enet.dec.com (Michael D. Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,biz.dec
Subject: Re: Looking for info on ETV (Ethernet via TV cable)
Keywords: Ethernet, TV, cable, ETV, info, wanted
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:30:20 GMT
Reply-To: mdlyons@vcsesu.enet.dec.com (Michael D. Lyons)
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton, MA


    The company you are looking for is Applitek - I believe they are located in
Andover, Massachusetts.

--
Michael D. Lyons
Internet:  mdlyons@celtic.enet.dec.com    uucp: decwrl!celtic.enet!mdlyons
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From: epeas@abds7.aberdeen.chevron.com (John Peach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Alt key on my DECstation
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:04:34 GMT
Reply-To: epeas@aberdeen.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron (UK) Ltd.
Bcc: epeas@aberdeen.chevron.com
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are mine; _not_ those of        
            the company I work for.

In article <Bxtvq6.Ew2@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes:
|> Here's a question that I hope someone can answer.  I've got a DECstation
|> 5000/120 running Ultrix 4.2a.  My keyboard, an LK401-AA (Rev. A01) comes
|> complete with two Compose keys and two Alt keys.  Unfortunately, all
|> applications that have a use for both (DECwrite, for instance) insist on
|> making me use the Compose key for both.  If I hold it, and press another
|> key, it is an Alt key.  If I press it and let it up, it's a Compose key.
|> The same holds true for things like Mwm which has a use only for Alt.  I
|> have to use Compose in its place for things like the window menus (minimize,
|> maximize, etc.)
|> 
|> I'd like to be able to use the Alt key for its functions, and the Compose
|> key for its functions.  I've dug through all the possible files that I
|> could think of, and I can't find anything that says "this workstation's
|> keyboard has an Alt key" or "this workstation's keyboard doesn't have an
|> Alt key."
|> 
|> Anyone have any ideas?
|> 

.X11Startup...


xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc

.xmodmaprc...


keycode 172 = Meta_L
keycode 178 = Meta_R


or whatever you want the alt keys to do.

|> Thanks-
|> 
|> 	Darrin
|> -- 
|> 
|> mdchaney@iubacs mdchaney@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu mdchaney@rose.ucs.indiana.edu
|> 
|> "I want- I need- to live, to see it all..."

-- 
                               John Peach
                           Chevron (UK) Ltd.
   Ninian House, Crawpeel Road, Altens, Aberdeen, AB1 4LG, Scotland.
   Internet: epeas@aberdeen.chevron.com       Phone: +44 224 242637
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: sjc1@pooh.amtp.cam.ac.uk (Stephen J Cowley)
Subject: FORTRAN, OSF/1, Alpha AXP
Organization: DAMTP, University of Cambridge
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:06:25 GMT


Has anyone experience of running FORTRAN under OSF/1 (rather than
VMS) on an alpha box. If so:
(a) How stable is the compiler
(b) How fast is the compiled code

Stephen Cowley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento)
Subject: Re: Alpha Documentation...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:59:33




In article <1992Nov21.033342.12422@fcom.cc.utah.edu> phil@news.ccutah.edu 
(Phillip Neiswanger) writes:



>> Hi,

>> Just wondering how much nitty gritty hardware documentation is currently
>> available for any of the Alpha workstations.
>> --
>>				   phil
>>				   email:	phil@csulx.weber.edu
>>			  	 	        phil@icarus.weber.edu


Phil,

  If you're discussing things like the Functional Specifications (similar to
what is on-line for the DS5000/200 series) then it's not there yet. I do have
requests in. I don't yet have a firm idea of dates for availability. As soon
as I do have an idea, I'll post it here.

Sorry for the delays, things have been somewhat hectic... ;-)



				Thanx,
				  AJ


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: gklaass@nexus.yorku.ca (Gary Klaassen)
Subject: Open VMS on Alpha (TCP/IP)
Keywords: alpha, vms, tcp/ip
Organization: York University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:57:18 GMT

What sort of ethernet software support does Open VMS provide for the
new DEC Alpha machines?

DECnet?
TCP/IP functions (telnet,ftp) or rlogin,rsh?

Is this support included with the standard Open VMS system or
as an extra cost option?

Thanks, Gary

Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: peregrin@arroyo-next.Stanford.EDU (Steven Stanko)
Subject: alpha-cbm deal
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:43:44 GMT

I've heard that Commodore has signed a deal with DEC to use the Alpha  
technology for an upcoming project.  Anybody know or can guess at what new  
toys (supercharged and powermongering toys, albeit) might be coming out of  
Pennsylvania?  A new Amiga that can run VAX, SGI, Sparc, and personal  
computer applications with little or no add-ons?

-steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: sladeic@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ian Slade)
Subject: printcap for HPdeskjet500
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:23:08 EST
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I am in search of a printcap file for my Hewlett Packard Deskjet 500
printer. I am running Ultrix 4.2a on a DECstation 5000.

I tried gatekeeper.dec.com but I only got printcaps for HP Lasers. And those
didn't work.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

--
Ian Slade
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
sladeic@csugrad.cs.vt.edu	(703) 620-2225
From: iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias)
Subject: Re: Open VMS on Alpha (TCP/IP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: alpha, vms, tcp/ip
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:29:48 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <gklaass.722019438@yorku.ca> gklaass@nexus.yorku.ca (Gary Klaassen) writes:
>What sort of ethernet software support does Open VMS provide for the
>new DEC Alpha machines?
>
>DECnet?
>TCP/IP functions (telnet,ftp) or rlogin,rsh?

I'm not sure what DEC is providing, but both Wollongong and TGV have ported
their TCP/IP packages to Alpha VMS.



Mike Iglesias                        Internet:    iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu
University of California, Irvine     BITNET:      iglesias@uci
Office of Academic Computing         uucp:        ...!ucbvax!ucivax!iglesias
Distributed Computing Support        phone:       (714) 856-6926
From: gleason@mwk.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: DEC Pro 350
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:26:57 CST
Organization: M. W. Kellogg, Houston TX

>  
> P/OS is can support more than one user on the machine at a time, 
> but, since I presume that you do not have the multiple serial 
> line add-in option, that limits you to two users (one on the 
> console, and one on the "printer" port).
>  
> Memory capacity is maxed out at 1MB (If memory serves correctly, 
> the CTI bus only includes 20 address lines on the etch).
>  

  Say, was there ever a way to SET HOST to a PRO via DECnet?

Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
Control-G Consultants
gleason@mwk.uucp
From: gary@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: 11/83 help sought
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:02:41 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

I've just acquired via an auction an 11/83 - but without
manuals. When I try to boot it the LEDs at the rear end
up with the number 4 on them. It fails to boot. Could
any kind soul tell me what these numerical codes mean.
Does anyone have data books etc on this machine that
they would like to donate to an unworthy cause?

any help greatly appreciated...


many thanks in advance...

gary morgan
From: dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: DEC Support?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 19:34:48 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer User Services
Reply-To: DGray@uh.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: menudo.uh.edu


I always thought that Digital "I wanna be IBM in the 90s" Equipment
Corp always justified their outrageously high prices with their
support.  However, it seems that DEC isn't the slightest bit
interested in their customers.  I sight several things:

First, the technical sales line (800-DIGITAL) sometimes cannot even
tell me what parts I can use with my machine.

DEC "support" will not even talk to you unless you have one of their
outrageously priced service contracts.  Besides, I thought the high
equipment prices went to pay for support...

And now they cannot even supply tapes for their own machines.  A local
office supply has a 3M equililent to the TK50 tapes, but all three of
the DEC distributors I called have back orders (one guy said they had
"several thousand on order").  This is really insane.

I just hope I can be around to see DEC founder and sink like IBM is
doing now...

Disgusted,
-dennis
---
Dennis Gray, Jr.                                        DGray@uh.edu
		  "In UNIX We Trust" -Jerry Raschke


Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no (Per Steinar Iversen)
Subject: Re: DEC Support?
Reply-To: iversen@vsfys1.fi.uib.no
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 08:49:12 GMT


In article <1992Nov20.011925.8782@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.) writes:

>[ Quite a few follow-ups back Dennis Gray Jr. started a thread on
>  support from Digital Equipment Corporation.  Along the way he
>  mentioned a mysterious $10,000 disk drive. ]
>
>A year ago, I can imagine that some of our 1 GB disk drives may
>have cost that much.  Six months ago it may have still been possible
>though unlikely for just a basic drive.  Today I looked our price
>list and all the 1 GB drives we sell and produced the following
>summary:
>
>RF72    +R215F expansion enclosure      10,475.00
>RZ57    +R23RZ-CS Rack                   9,300.00
>RA72    Removable                        7,800.00
>RZ57    Removable                        6,300.00
>RZ57    in Storage Expansion box         5,000.00
>
>RF72    Basic                            3,575.00
>RA72    Basic                            3,475.00
>RZ26    Basic                            2,850.00
>RZ57    Basic                            2,250.00
>
>Yes, we still have a $10,000 disk drive.  But that includes a
>cabinet for (and power supply, cables, etc).  There's a variation
>of that particular subsystem that includes a controller.  For
>base drives the prices are more reasonable and probably what
>the people that set prices think enough customers are willing
>to pay.
>
>If Mr. Gray is still with us, I'm curious exactly what 1 GB
>drive was quoted at $10,000?  As can be seen from my list,
>there is a lot variation available.
>
>--
>Alan Rollow				alan@nabeth.cxo.dec.com

I just looked in my latest pricelist from DECdirect (2 weeks old), the basic
RZ57 is listed as 37440 NKr. On this price we get 13%, but have to add 20%
sales tax. The price is thus 39087 NKr or about 6000 US$... Somehow this drive
seems to be more expensive around here!

-psi

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From: bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: alpha memory requirements (vs vax) ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:15:57 GMT
Organization: Applied Information Systems, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <BxtJvM.GBw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes:
>>In article <Bxnt6o.Jx0@mtholyoke.edu>, jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
>>> 
>>> Nonetheless it's too expensive... 70ns 1Mb chips are selling for less
>>> than $2.50 per in volume... that works out to less than $25 for a
>>> 9-chip SIMM.  If your manufacturing cost is as high as $10/SIMM,
>>> that's still nearly a 300% markup.
> 
> There's another factor that our genious didn't take into account, that is,
> the speed of the memory.  70ns memory won't hack it on a machine that is
> running at 150-200MHz.  In case you didn't notice, 200MHz is a 5ns cycle,
> a bit smaller than, oh, say *70*.

I don't think _any_ of the high-density chips run on a 5 ns cycle -- I
think you have to go to a much more expensive and less dense technology
like ECL to get that kind of memory cycle time with current technology. 
Usually the memory is run at a lower clock rate than the CPU (that's what
the cache is for).  Even a 33 MHz 486 runs the CPU faster than commonly-
available memory chips (33MHz works out to a 30ns cycle time).

The point is well taken however;  I don't know the speed of the chips
in the Alpha memory arrays.  70ns is however a common clock rate for
the faster chips ... though I do know of some that are a bit faster.

> I know one 3rd party vendor, whose prices are significantly lower than DEC's
> on most products, just quoted me $6495 for 64MB of memory for the Sandpiper.
> DEC isn't too much higher than that, especially when you consider the price
> disparity in the DECstation-line memory cards.

That's a useful data point, it will be interesting to see how the prices
track the cost of other memory arrays once they are in full production.

Bruce C. Wright
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: DECstation 5000 remote boot
Organization: QUAD Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:23:47 GMT

I need to remove the harddisk on a DECstation 5000/200 and set it up to 
remote boot and operate from a SPARC II. 

As the customer has misplaced virtually all documentation - and particularly
the system administration stuff - I would appreciate any pointers as to
the necessary setup and pitfalls.

I know that the DECstation can be setup to remote boot via the REX command:

	3/mop		(don't remember the exact syntax)

I am am familiar with the typical setup using tftp to boot a diskless
workstation.

The SPARC and DEC currently have access to each others file system through NFS.

Thanx for any help
-- 

Roland Besserer
QUAD Systems
roland@quadsys.com
From: pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Is the Alpha 3000(400/500) board upgradable?
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:50:23 GMT
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <1992Nov20.214547.8418@PA.dec.com>, rjones@wsl.dec.com (Russ Jones) writes:
> Greg,
> 
> You're right.  We would have made the same statement two years ago and, in fact, did make that statement.  And from Nov'90, we introduced the following upgrades for the DS3100:
> 
> 	Apr'91		DS3100 -> DS5000/125
> 	Feb'92					/125 -> /133
> 	Apr'92		DS3100 -> DS5000/133
> 	Q2'CY93					/125 & /133 -> R4000
> 
 DEC has provided a very decent set of upgrades for the MIPS processor-based
 systems.  I assume, given the pace of these for a period of 18 months or so,
 that DEC could not possibly have made any profit on them, given the extremely
 short life cycle of each iteration.

 At the same time I would like to point out the following:

  1. the statement you made that I questioned included:

     "However, rest assured that these workstations will be upgradeable over
      time through many iterations...."

     In the case of the MIPS-based systems, "many" has, to all intents and 
     purposes, been brought to a screeching halt rather quickly;

  2. your table points out a major problem for us, anyway, in the Q2 CY93
     release of the first (and only ????) generation of a R4000-based system:

     a. several previous non-disclosures (including one earlier this year) 
        indicated a Q3 or Q4 CY92 release of such a system.  This should have
        been "doable", given that the schedule you are promising now shows that
        DEC is running close to one year behind SGI with an R4000-based 
        machine.  ALPHA development interfering, perhaps ?

     b. we are dying cpu performance/wise and have nowhere to go within the
        range of DEC products.  Our chief software vendor is telling us that
        an ALPHA OSF/1-based version of its system will be available in apx.
        12 months (maybe it will be sooner than that.  But this appears to be
        an honest assessment, given a prospective March release date of the
        first production version of OSF/1).

        Even March is too far away.  So we had counted on an R4000-based up-
        grade to carry us through.  With the schedule you have now given and
        assuming the 45-90 day order-to-delivery time we experienced with 
        previous MIPS-based upgrades, it appears that we are in deep _______.



      greg pavlov
      pavlov@fstrf.org

 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: oli@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Hermanns)
Subject: DECnet NSP question
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Organization: Aachen University of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 10:38:04 GMT

Hello World,

we are trying to define and implement an OSI Transport Service (ISO 8072)
conforming communication interface on VAX machines with DECnet phase IV
networking. This is done in a research project at our University. The idea
behind this approach is to provide higher layer (5-7) OSI protocols and
services to heterogeneous application systems. We are running VMS 5.4 on
VAXstations and a MicroVAX.

But the task is not easy. We would like to specify and implement a
convergence protocol that provides the ISO 8072 service, based upon the NSP
protocol service (cf. RFC 1006 for TCP&OSI). Unfortunately our
documentation is very complete for administration purposes but not for
systems programming. What we need is a detailed specification of the (Phase
IV) NSP service and documentation of its programming interface under VMS.
Please let me know, if You have any references for that or if You know
about someone who could provide the material.

We would also be interrested in a NSP programming interface spec. for
ULTRIX (if existing).

sincerely
   Oliver Hermanns
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: minakawa@leland.Stanford.EDU (Tatsuya Minakawa(visiting scholar))
Subject: font-specifying
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:02:59 GMT

I'm a beginner of Ultrix.
Does anybody know .dwf font file?
I'm now using Vax3200(Ultrix3.0) as a Xserver,and have some questions about
font specifying.
In my Xserver, there are no .snf or .pcf file but .dwf(DECwindow font
format) files in font-directory. And no fonts.dir files in that directory.
I don't know how to treat .dwf file. 
So please teach me about the following point:
(1)how to get .dwf files from .bdf files
(2) how to specify font files.(Can I simply use "xset fp+=...."?)

Thanks in advance

Tatsuya Minakawa(visiting scholar)
email:minakawa@shasta.stanford.edu  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: paul@integow.integrity.nl (Paul van Boxmeer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: RJ45 pin connections
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:19:22 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Integrity BV, Woerden, NL




Hi there,

can any one help me with the following problem:

I need to connect a DEC computer to a Multiplexer, using a serial line.

The DEC computer needs a RJ45, the Multiplexer a DB25-female connector. I
have no idea what cable to use, since I don't know th RJ45 connection. What
I would like is 1-1 connection from the RJ45 to the DB25 connector, the rest
(the part between the DB25 and multiplexer) I can figure out myself.

I have a RJ45 connector, a 6-wire cable and a DB25 connector, now all i
need to know which signals (FG-1, TD-2, RD-3, RTS-4, CTS-5,
DSR-6, SG-7, DCD-8, DTR-20) come out of the RJ45, and which is which?

Maybe somebody can complete the schema below.


Computer (RJ45 with catch top left)



          +----+
       +--|----|------------+
       |  |    |            |
       |  |    |            |
       |  |    |            |
       |  |    |            |
       |  +----+            |
       |                    |
       +--|--|--|--|--|--|--+
          |  |  |  |  |  +----------------->
          |  |  |  |  +-------------------->
          |  |  |  +----------------------->
          |  |  +-------------------------->
          |  +----------------------------->
          +-------------------------------->


Please e-mail to paul@integrity.nl,

thanks in advance,

Paul.
-- 
UUCP: ..!uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!integow!paul	or  paul@integrity.nl
Paul van Boxmeer, software engineer, Integrity software consultants, 
         Pelmolenlaan 2, 3447 GW Woerden, Netherlands,
            tel +31 3480-30131, fax +31 3480-30182
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: dembo@csri.toronto.edu (Prof. Ron Dembo)
Subject: How much can a TLZ06 4mm Dat hold
Summary: What gets compressed with a tlz06
Keywords: tlz06
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:51:11 GMT

We recently purchased was what billed as a '4 gig data drive'.  In an effort
to start using it for our backups I was reading the documentation and
found in small print the statement that the capacity was 2 gig without
compression, and 4 with.  I have not been able to get a clear answer on what
this 'compression' entails.  Is it a software compression?  Such that a
drive stores 2 gig but the data is being compressed in hardware so that about
4 gig can be stored if it is easily compressable ?  or is it an actual physical
compression similar to high versus low density.

Out backup scheme used to run on a 2.2 Gig exabyte.  Having long since run out
of space we already compress our dumps using compress and dd.  Can this TLZ06
hold 4 gig of this pre-compressed data.

	Thanks in advance
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: avolio@dco.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio)
Subject: Re: How do you reach DEC employees via email?
Reply-To: avolio@dco.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:54:04 GMT


In article <1992Nov17.221615.23774@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, grusin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (GRUSIN MICHAEL) writes:
>I have some friends that work at DEC who have given me email addresses
>("person@machine.enet.dec.com"), but my school machine always responds
>with "host not known" when I try and email or finger them.
>
>Is there some special way to get through to "enet"?
>Is there a special address format I'm not using?
>(Don't flame, I'm still learning this stuff).


Whatever machine you are using is broken.  It should be using the DNS for
resolving  the address and if it did it would get mail exchanger records 
to use to send the mail.

Inform the postmaster on the machine that is returning this error message
that it should be fixed.

Fred