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From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: selenium wash
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:57:42 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <1992Aug26.124138.17311@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jjc4@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Campanella) writes:
>
>Does anyone with more experience in photography development know
>how to treat B&W prints with a selenium wash to get that beautiful
>brownish-reddish tone that I've seen in some museum quality prints?
>I believe that it's selenium treatment. . . am I misremembering?
>How about this as a more general question: are there any good photo
>books on print processing that describe how to do this or similar
>treatments? Thanx. 

Yes, that sounds like selenium toner. Selenium toning also makes the 
image considerably more stable than an untoned B&W print. Kodak makes
a selenium toner - you should be able to buy it at any "real" camera
store. Directions for use are right on the bottle. More detailed instructions
can be found in the Kodak B&W Darkroom Dataguide, Ansel Adams'a Basic
Photo Series, in fact any good reference on darkroom work.  Be careful
with this stuff, selenium is toxic. Wear rubber gloves, etc.

Steve
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From: hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong)
Subject: What to do with 800mm (Re: San Jose, CA Photo Fair)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 03:55:28 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: CA

From article <b8dnc+h.badboy@netcom.com>, by badboy@netcom.com (Jay Keller):
> There will be a Photographic Swap meet tomorrow (Saturday 8/29) and the day
> after at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds in San Jose.

Picked up a 800mm/8.0 Tokina (for Nikon) 9.5 external condition with 
glass clean at the show.  Wonder if anybody know what to shoot with a 
2.5-feet lens around here without attracting funny looks?  It is not 
exactly Nikkor ED's, but I sure like to see if it can produce decent 
photos.

By the way, anybody know about this lens?  The serial number is quite
small, and it is not exactly modern design.  The lens breaks into two
pieces for storage and transport, it came with the original case that
dictates so.
From: philg@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Philip Greenspun)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Photograping Whales [8008s autofocus problem]
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:06:54 GMT
Reply-To: philg@martigny.ai.mit.edu
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
In-reply-to: savoia@sw.stratus.com's message of 31 Aug 92 14:45:55 GMT


In article <6031@transfer.stratus.com> savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia) writes:

   This past weekend, I went on a whale watch and brought
   along my 8008s. ... I
   was using a 35-105 AF Nikkor lens.  The problem I had
   was when the whale breached, the camera would rack 
   back and forth trying to find the focus.

Your problems include the following:

1) Nikon autofocus is basically decorative

2) Neither whales nor water have much contrast to speak of

3) autofocus systems like light and a 35-105 zoom (f5.6?) won't give
them much

Could you have won with a Minolta 7xi and an f/2.8 lens?  Probably.

Philip Greenspun
MIT Department of EE & CS

P.S.  Yes, Nikon is the only 35mm camera I regularly use (6006, 8008,
and F4 under duress).
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From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: A Word of Warning
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 12:01:04 GMT

In article <n089ft@ofa123.fidonet.org> Mike.Turner@f28.n116.z1.fidonet.or
 writes:
>This is just "A word of warning" for anyone that is thinking of
>ordering any equipment by mail.
>
>I called Cambridge Camera on July 20 and ordered a Sigma 28-80 f/4 lens
>and was suprised to see the ol UPS man pull up on July 24. When I
>openend the box, to my suprise I found a Sakar 28-200 f/4. When I took
>it out of box there was some kind of (for lack of a better word) "gunk"
>on the barrel that made it very hard to focus. Being an "easy" person,
>I thought that I would keep the lens if it did well.
>
>Over the weekend I shot some with it, and found out that it was not
>even close to being sharp. So Monday July 27 I called Cambridge and
>told them what the problem was. They said to pack it up and send it
>back with a letter stating what was wrong with it... So I did.
>
>I sent a letter stating that I wanted to exchange the lens for a Canon
>brand 35-105 f/3.5 Macro.
>
>On 7/30 a person called and confirmed that they had received the lens,
>and apologized for the mixup. He stated that the 35-105 had been
>discontinued and they didn't have any in stock. So I changed my order
>to another Canon lens they had advertised. He said the next day.
>
>On 8/12 I called to see where the lens was, and was transfered to 5
>different people. Then I was told that no one knew if it had been
>shipped, and to call back tomorrow.
>
>On 8/17 I called and talked to the first man, and he said that they
>didn't have the lens in stock. Being fed up I told him to send my money
>back. He said "You can't wait a few more days?" I who is considering ord
ring 
>anything from Cambridge NOT TO. I
>don't know if I was just the exception or if they are rip off artist.
>Anyway, thanks for listining.
>
>Mike  
> 
>---
> * Origin: Music City Photographer's BBS Ds/Hst615-356-8016 (1:116/28)
>



   They are sure scamming the hell out of us, I once try to order
 a maxxum 8000i body from them. They tell 8000i was a no good camera
 and i should consider other ??????????, then they try to sell me
 god knows ! i've never heard kind of camera. i sense a scam and 
 hang up.
    I believe there are long discusion some times ago on Cambridge 
 too.

 Now when i recieve my Pop Photography. I rip off their ads right away.
 ??? Wonder why PP still run their ads with that "Check Rated".????

   " Unite photo man rip off Cambrige ads."

Muskie

--
Sofjan Mustopoh
UK07802

" Better soon Than late "
From: bjs@uts.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Which is first camera with TTL meter?
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:14:29 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Chuck Liang writes:
>
>   Does anybody know for sure which SLR was the first to incorporate
>TTL metering?  

Might it be the Pentax Spotmatic?  Or the Mamiya 1000DTL?  I remember how
I dreamed the impossible dream of an 18 year-old who knew it'd be years and
years before he could afford such fancy equipment!  I think of that often
now as I play with my EOS bodies and the 4x5 view camera and all the electonic
wonders I have in the darkroom.

Barry



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From: jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Grainy B&W film?
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:33:09 GMT
Organization: Metran Technology, Tampa, Florida

zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes:
: 
: I have 2 rolls of Ektachrome Infrared AERO 8443 IE135, and a roll of INFRARED
: ( IR135 ) in my pocket. Any one got a data sheet for the IR? Or a E-6 mod
: for E-3 films?

The newer Ektachrome IR (process E-4) can be processed with the Kodak Slide
Hobby Pac as long as the temperature is at or below 74F.  Maybe that will
work for yours as well.  What's the difference between E-3 and E-4?

Jay Ts
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From: jlavi@cs.joensuu.fi (Jarkko Lavinen)
Subject: Re: Info. about the Sigma 28-70/f 3.5-4.5
Organization: University of Joensuu
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:16:10 GMT

mqd1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MAURICE Q. DADOUN) writes:

>I have just get a 28-70 mm/f 3.5-4.5 from Sigma and I am not happy at all
>about the sharpness of my pictures (I have a 8008s).
I have 28-70 F3.5-4.5 Sigma UC AF lens. I haven't found any problems
with sharpness, but mine has barrel distortion, flare and cheap plastic
construction. Af mechanism jammed once because small plastic grain jammed
between wheels.

The difference between metallic Sigma 70-210 APO lens is like day and
night.

	Jarkko Lavinen
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From: jacobson@cello.hpl.hp.com (David Jacobson)
Subject: Re: binocs and camera lenses
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:42:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories

In article <1992Aug25.214013.23287@fig.citib.com> ghica@fig.citib.com (Renato [Titanium Cranium] Ghica) writes:
>
>
>what is the correlation between specs for binoculars
>and specs for SLR lenses? Is there any?
>
>For example a 7 X 35 pair of binocs would give magnification
>and agle of viewing the same as a XXXmm lense, fYYY ?

(By the way, "lens" has no "e".)

A 7 X 35 binocular has a magnification of 7 and 35mm diameter
objective lenses.  To the extent that a 50mm lens is "normal", it does
for looking what a 350mm lens does for picture taking.  The 35mm
figure tells you how bright the image will be.  An optics theorem says
that the diameter of the exit pupil is the diameter of the objective
divided by the magnification, so this binocular has a 5mm exit pupil.
Larger exit pupils, up to about 5mm, 7mm at the max, help with evening
and night viewing.  They also make it easier to use the binocular,
since you don't have to fiddle quite so carefully in lining it up with
your eyes.  But I have a pair of Minolta 7 x 21, with just 3 mm exit
pupils, and they are still quite usable.  The field of view is not
given by either of these numbers.  It is a separate specification.  It
is typically specified something like so many feet at 1000 yards.

  -- David Jacobson
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From: dp@world.std.com (Jeff DelPapa)
Subject: Bozos
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:49:50 GMT

A story about a manufacturer's authorized repair center..

Note: Steam is currently escaping from my ears.

   In late July of 1991, I positioned a tripod with one leg sticking
out an office door while taking an executive portrait. Needless to
say, someone promptly ran into it, knocking the tripod over. It
happened to have my Rollie SLX mounted on it at the time.  The camera
still functioned after the drop, but the back had a crack in it.  A
few weeks later, I took it to a local repair shop who promptly shipped
it off to the importers official repair station, MARFLEX in New
Jersey. It left the local shop on August 19, 1991. About 5 weeks later
an estimate arrived, for $600.00; I swallowed hard, and gave the
authorization.  In December, I called the local shop to get an update
-- they prodded Marflex, and received the first in what has become a
long series of excuses. In late February, the camera was returned to
the local shop, and I trundled into town to pick it up.  It was
returned sans back.  The back of the mirror box was open to the
elements.  (The SLX does not have magazines a la Hasselblad, just a
back cover like a 35mm camera -- no midroll changes are possible) The
local shop called MARFLEX, and the response was that they were waiting
for parts to come from Germany, and would send the back when it
arrived. (Note: there was no mention that a partial shipment had been
made.) Several more months of waiting ensued. More excuses (it was
"clearing customs" for 6 weeks, among others).  In mid May, the back
finally arrived. I collected it, recharged the battery pack, and
prepared to run a test roll through. Before loading the film, I dry
fired the camera, and discovered that the iris diaphragm wasn't
closing, and the mirror pre-release didn't work. It went back to NJ
the next day, with a pointed comment about outgoing QC.  Last week was
the one year anniversary of the camera's sojourn. I sent it a "missing
you" card. I got a call from my local shop today -- my camera was
back, but they tested it before calling me, and the shutter didn't
work. It is again enroute to NJ. I am sending a copy of this post to
the importer, and to the manufacturer in Germany. I will let them know
that many thousands of people around the world will have seen this.

<dp>
From: mapres@gdr.bath.ac.uk (R E Slade)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Slides to colour print.
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:24:09 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

This is probably a FAQ, but I haven't seen it asked before!  I need to copy
some colour slides on to print film and would like some advice.  E-mail me
direct and I will post a summary if there is enough interest.

I have access to a slide copying lens to fit my camera and would like advice
on the following:

	o Type of film to use (speed, make, etc.)

	o Light source?

	o Quality of results to expect compared to Cibachrome.

	o Metering.

and basically anything else which is relevant!

	Thanks for any help,
		Robert.
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From: glporter@zeus.calpoly.edu (Glen Porter)
Subject: Re: polycarbonate camera bodies
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:33:47 GMT

In article <7825@public.BTR.COM> rah@public.BTR.COM (Richard A Hyde  rah@btr.com) writes:
>Well, I've seen a lot of theoretical discussion...
>
>Let's see what the combined readership of the net can do....  :-)
>
>Has anyone ever dropped their polycarbonate camera?  How far?  On to what?
>
>and, of course,..  *what happened* !?
>
I dropped my EOS 10s from 8 ft and had no problems with it - I even sent it in 
for inspection - no problems :-)

People keep forgetting, that Canon passed the industries first plastic bodied 
camera off as metal by performing a beautiful chrome job on it.  It turned out 
to be one of the top 10 Porfessional 35mm cameras in the industry.  25 points
for the first one to remember which model it was (AE-1, F1, etc . . )  Yes, 
it is true, it was mentioned in an issue of Popular Photography - back when
polycarbonate bodies first came out - time to go and look through them.

email me directly, and I will gladdly post the winners name.  Tell him what
he's won Bob!  that's right, you have one a lifetime supply of over exposed 
film - pre-exposed at the factory in order to save you time.

-glen


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From: ferd@Bridge.COM (Ferd Ferfel)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Prints from XP2?
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:46:59 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: Planet Earth

(I'm hoping I got the name of the film right.)

Does this Ilford film produce regular b/w negatives with C-41
processing that need to be printed on b/w paper, or can mass retail
photofinishers  print them on the color paper in their machines?

Xref: sparky rec.photo:15160 alt.cd-rom:2859 gnu.misc.discuss:2812 misc.int-property:899
From: axman@acadia.Kodak.COM (Mike Axman)
Newsgroups: rec.photo,alt.cd-rom,gnu.misc.discuss,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Time to boycott Photo CD
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:00:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: kodak.1992Aug31.120046.21730
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <b2dn!sf@dixie.com>, jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>axman@acadia.Kodak.COM (Mike Axman) writes:
>
>>Kodak is not in the business of altruism; we are not a university.  
>>A lot of time, effort, and proprietary sweat was put into the 
>>compression/file-format of the hi-res data to achieve good image quality 
>>and decent data reduction.  
>
>
>Hey Mike.  Call your own 800 number and learn how much Kodak is 
>bending over backwards to support Photo-CD developers.  Don't sell your
>own company short.  See my complete post for details.

Thanks John, after your post I don't need to anymore :-)
Actually, I thought I was "sticking up" for Kodak with my post, but I must 
admit I didn't realize that Kodak was supplying the source code with the 
developers kit!
I'm just hoping that the UNIX "access" software will be as cheap as the 
DOS/MAC counterparts, since SPARC software seems to always cost me about 
5x-10x as compared to the same product on a MAC/PC platform.

Also, if you think 3072x2048x24bit is good, just wait until the 6144x4096 
"64BASE" and 12288x8192 "256BASE" upgrade is available.  
Of course, this might be overkill for 35mm, but certainly necessary for 
larger formats.

  
Thanks for the info,
mike


>
>John
>
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: uk02757@nx24.mik.uky.edu (jeffrey t hazelwood)
Subject: VERY DUMB QUESTION
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:40:23 GMT
Distribution: usa

Hello,

I need to make some PASSPORT size photos.  The stores charge too damn much  
and I don't have much time.  Could someone tell me the proper distance  
from the camera I need in order to achieve the right results.  I need it  
right on the first try and don't want to learn by trial and error.   
Thanks.

Send response @ my email address.

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From: brett@jericho.uunet.uu.net (Brett Cheng)
Subject: Tamron Adaptall-2 EOS Mount Question
Summary: can EOS mount be used with MF lens?
Keywords: Canon EOS, Tamron
Organization: S-MOS Systems, Inc. (Vancouver Design Center)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:43:54 GMT

Question: 
Can Tamron's Adaptall-2 EOS mount adapter (I think the model # is "66C")
be used with a Tamron Adaptall-2 interchangeable mount MANUAL focus lens? 
or can it only be used with the AF lenses?

i.e. Tamron MF lens + Adaptall-2 EOS mount --> EOS camera body   ???
                                               (must manual focus lens
                                                of course)

Will this work? Does anybody have this Tamron EOS mount?

The reason I ask is that I have a manual focus Tamron lens (350 f5.6) which
I would like to use on an EOS even though the lens is manual focus. 

Any help on this will be appreciated.
Thanks.
-- 
Brett Cheng
uunet!jericho!brett    brett@jericho.uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.photo,alt.cd-rom,misc.int-property
From: bbarton@Ingres.COM (Brian Barton)
Subject: Re: Fuji Slide Film or Pushing Kodachrome
Summary: 
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Distribution: usa
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:29:06 GMT

In article <243@metran.UUCP>, jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts)    writes...
>kjm@cnmss.tredydev.unisys.com (Ken J. McFadden) writes:
>: I've been pretty happy with Kodachrome 25 and 64 for quite a while.  However I
>: want to shoot some faster slide film and I don't like Ektachrome (spelling?)
>                                                        ^^^^^^^^^^ correct.
>: and also disliked the results I have gotten with Kodachrome 200.
> 
>Hmm, same here.
> 
>: I would be willing to try Fuji slide film, [...]
>: 
>: The other thing that I might want to try is exposing Kodachrome 64 at a higher
>: speed and then getting it push (or is it pull) processed.  Has anyone tried
>                            ^^^^ correct
>: this combination?
> 
>I have tried pushing Kodachrome 1, 2 and 3 stops.  I suggest you do not try
>for any more than 1 stop.  I got unacceptably large grain, color shift and
>muddy shadows when I tried.
> 
>I myself am in the process of testing higher speed slide films.  Well, sort
>of -- the project is "on the back burner" right now.
> 
>So I'll leave you with a couple of suggestions.  First, try Ektachrome 400X.
>The Ektachrome 'X' films are quite unlike the other Ektachromes.  How unlike?
>Well, I hate all Ektachromes except for 64X, which is one of my two favorite
>films.  How's that?  400X is a tabular-grain film, which means the grain is
>relatively small, and maybe it will push well to EI 800.
> 
>Second, if you can get some Scotchchrome, you may wish to try that.  It is
>very grainy, but the colors are reputedly good, and it pushes well -- the
>grain gets bigger, but the colors stay good.  For fun, push Scotchchrome
>1000 2-3 stops.  The grain comes out downright pointilistic.
> 
>Jay Ts

Here's my "two cents" on the matter.  Shoot Ektachrome 100 _Plus_ and you'll
cry for days at how good it looks.  It's just an incredibly good film.  You've
never seen such beautiful color in your life.

Also, I'm very fond of both Fujichrome 50 Professional and Fujichrome 100 
Professional.

I shoot assignments all the time on these slide films with excellent results.

Brian
From: ark@alice.att.com (Andrew Koenig)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Suggest a pair of binoculars?
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:46:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23560
Reply-To: ark@alice.UUCP ()
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ

In article <l9nhdeINNgrp@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:

> I'm looking for a pair of binoculars for occasional
> wildlife watching.

> What would you recommend?

It largely depends on your personal space/weight/budget tradeoffs.
If you ever make it to the Bay Area, I suggest a visit to one of the
Orion stores; they have lots of binoculars in stock at reasonable
prices.
-- 
				--Andrew Koenig
				  ark@europa.att.com
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