HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Kilroy
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:20:19 GMT

In article <Bw4Bw8.Gpr@dcs.ed.ac.uk> pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) writes:
>>  nice one whoever it was that first said the word "fuck" on pre-watershed TV!
>
>Kelly.  Yup, I was very amused... wonder how many letters of complaint
>they'll get?

Did Kilroy do his usual tantrum?  I remember him trying to bowdlerize his
audience very heavy-handedly one session on Aids - he threw a fit a some
guy using perfectly sensible and appropriate language (forget exactly - some
thing like 'when you put a condom on your cock') - Kilroy insisted that
'we're all adults and we know what you mean without you having to say
the words'...  The guy's a jerk.  I only saw the last 3 minutes (goddawful
time in the morning to get up) but what I saw was the usual 'you're bi
so you must be promiscuous' crap.

G
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: tmo@harry.engin.umich.edu (Tanya M Ollick)
Subject: Re: being "in love"
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 09:57:06 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan (CAEN)
Originator: tmo@harry.engin.umich.edu


I've been struggling with similar issues. I realized I was bisexual about three months ago, and have told only 5 people about it (three members of my family, two friends). Most of the time it doesn't bother me that I haven't told the world - it's my business, not anyone else's, and I hope to sort myself out a bit more before I present myself as an example to the world. There are also times when telling other people would be inappropriate or even dangerous. My father, for instance, has a deep fear of homose


xuals (he was apparently scared  by an amorous male hairdresser). He is nervous and moody to the point of violence. I  want to be open with him, but past experience suggests that he will view it as a betrayal and really go over the edge. Since my brother still lives with him, I would be setting both him and me up for an incredibly violent set of outbursts, and of course I would never be welcome again. Right now, I simply can't face that.
  The only obligation or moral duty you have is to yourself. Tell others if you feel comfortable telling them, but don't worry if you can't right now. It will come in time, I hope.

TMO
From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: two men (was: two women)
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:12:42
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In-reply-to: pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu's message of 15 Oct 92 03:02:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.030222.11259@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) wrote...
>>Well, that may be the way your friend feels, but if *I* was in bed with
>>two men (which is a fantasy of mine...actually, most of my fantasies
>>involve *more* than two other people...*GRIN*), I would definitely
>>expect *them* to be pleasing *me*.  
>>Otherwise, why bother?

>Well I can think of a reason, but I have a voyeur streak when it
>comes to two men together..<reel, reel goes the mind>.

*SHIVER*...well, I didn't want to get that complicated...but *that*
would be fun...*smile*...

>>I prefer groups in which *everyone*
>>pleases *everyone*.  

>Not a bad thought but that's not _always_ what everyone wants...

Well, if you mean things like voyeurs, if you get a voyeur and a couple
of exhibitionists together, I think everyone *is* pleasing everyone...
as I said, the methods can vary...it doesn't even have to be touching...
if that isn't what you mean, I'd be interested to hear about the other
possibilities...

Muffy

--

Muffy Barkocy                               muffy@mica.berkeley.edu
~Weavers' fingers flying on the loom/patterns shift too fast to be
 discerned/all these years of thinking/ended up like this/in front
 of all this beauty/understanding nothing~ - Bruce Cockburn
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: National Coming Out Day
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:24:01 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.

In article <Bw0ry8.9n2@news.udel.edu> jcarroll@bach.udel.edu (Royal J Carroll) writes:
>You can get lots of hugs (from man people!)

No you don't - I just tried it :-(

Script started on Tue Oct 13 01:21:20 1992
% man people!
man: people! not found
% 
script done on Tue Oct 13 01:21:55 1992

see - not a single hug.  Sniff.

G
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From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: bisexual tricks?
Date: 17 Oct 1992 02:54:42 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <MUFFY.92Oct16191642@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
->
->86. Hair Heaven (they all have slightly silly titles)
->
->  If you have long hair, you can use it to whip your lover.  Your hair
->can feel wonderfully sensuous on their chest, back, and other body
->areas.  One caution: Keep clear of their face.  A lock of your hair
->across their eyes can, to say the least, spoil the mood.  Swing your
->hair back and forth, sideways, and in other directions. (Don't hurt your
->neck.)  If it's long enough, hold it in your hand and use it.  Women who
->have long hair can often combine this trick well with her-on-top
->intercourse.

I'm just curious to know if I'm the only one whose first thought/reaction to
this was "Charles Haynes!!" *grin*

-roy
-- 
Roy S. Rapoport           rsr@soda.berkeley.edu            rsr@ocf.berkeley.edu
                   The few.  The proud.  The geeks.
DISCLAIMER:  "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Two women please
Date: 15 Oct 1992 04:06:50 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct14.231004.4287@infodev.cam.ac.uk> mjw19@phx.cam.ac.uk (M.J. Williams) writes:
->In article <1992Oct14.172037.28782@midway.uchicago.edu> orc@amber.uucp (David Parsons) writes:
->>   "Mommy, what's a killfile?"
->
->It's a thing that you edit to get back items that you think may have
->interesting responses that you just killed in disgust.
->
->Mike.

Me? A geek? Why, _thank_ you! :)

Actually, if I have any type of clue about what Orc did, he just killfile'd
the person, so if that person has any interesting remarks (right) Orc wil
just <sniff> miss them ...

-roy
-- 
Roy S. Rapoport        rsr@soda.berkeley.edu        bi-request@ocf.berkeley.edu
             Sick and perverted? Me? Why, _Thank you_! 
DISCLAIMER:  "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."
From: chris@unicorn.resun.com (Chris Von Hendy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:30:13 GMT
Reply-To: chris@unicorn.resun.com
Organization: The White Bull
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v3


In article <1992Oct6.174026.4597@leland.Stanford.EDU> (soc.bi), mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd) writes:
> 
> [Another trivial question: 6 colours.  Newton's observation of 7 has
> been claimed to be rot on the basis of his desire to see "holy" numbers
> everywhere he looked, but it's still traditional.  {Yeesh - I'm
> rubbishing those Dead White European Men again!  Oh no!}  Why 6 in the
> rings?  Could it be that they skipped Blue?  One of the BIV end of
> ROYGBIV is not there, and missing Blue has neat overtones in British
> social politics - the colour Maggie always wore :-)  My colourblindness
> means I can't tell which one is gone]

The missing color would seem to be indigo, at least it is on my rainbow
flag.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Escondido, California       Think but this, and all is mended,
ncr-sd!blkhole!chris  or    That you have but slumbered here,
chris@unicorn.resun.com     While these visions did appear." Puck
From: rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert Charles Lebeau)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Change is GOOD!!!
Date: 16 Oct 1992 06:07:25 GMT
Organization: the Universe is Chaotic and Silly and Crafty
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In article <vashti.718960596@concave> vashti@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Vashti Galpin) writes:
>In <1b7bi6INNmuo@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert Charles Lebeau) writes:
>>	As for three-way interaction being the only way to go,
>
>Does this have anything to do with trisexuality?
>
>Vashti
>(Ok, so I just woke up) 

	I was refering to sex with more than one person. In this case
three way interaction would refer to sex between three people.

	Hmm...what exactly is Trisexuality?  The person sitting next
to me guesses that its Men, Women, and Animals.  Intersting way to
start up conversations in the computer lab.

				Robert

Robert LeBeau -------------------------------------- rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Date: 7 Oct 1992 23:23:51 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <ZEN.92Oct6233259@death.corp.sun.com> zen@death.corp.sun.com (d) writes:
->  But back to your questions... what *should* you have said?  You could
->try:
->
->    If you meet a queer on the road, kill them.

*cough* *sputter* *choke* 

OK ... call me clueless ...

Err, huh? What was that?

-roy, the really befuddled.

-- 
Roy S. Rapoport         rsr@soda.berkeley.edu          bi-bdsm@ocf.berkeley.edu
          Yet another victim of the most dangerous man on Usenet.
DISCLAIMER:  "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: zbyslaw@EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (Alex Zbyslaw)
Subject: Re: Edinburgh Muffin Pops up in Bay Area
Reply-To: zbyslaw@EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (Alex Zbyslaw)
Organization: Rank Xerox EuroPARC, Cambridge, UK
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:56:51 GMT

Mike Lloyd writes:

> Alan, may your Californian jaunt be as good for you as mine have been
> for me, but be warned - you may suddenly feel the need to live there ...

I'll second that!

<happy sighs>  --Alex
From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: I am not a bisexual!!!!
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:17:19
Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
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In-reply-to: mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU's message of Thu, 8 Oct 92 03:36:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.033630.16318@leland.Stanford.EDU> mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd) writes:
> Glerc.  Due to a grotesque packing error, most of the badges are still 
> in San Francisco (sorry, M :-( ) ...

Fortunately, they were left near a terminal (not really...*grin*).

Some other fairly good ones:

 I support the rights of straight people, even though I'm perfectly bent
  myself
 Once you've come out as a pagan bisexual married leather dyke,
  everything else in life is that much easier
 Bisexual, Proud, and Queer of it

I think you wore the two best, though...*smile*...

*HUG*

Muffy
--

Muffy Barkocy                               muffy@mica.berkeley.edu
~Little round planet/in a big universe/sometimes it looks blessed/
 sometimes it looks cursed/Depends on what you look at, obviously/
 But even more it depends on the way that you see~ - Bruce Cockburn
From: mlloyd@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Lloyd)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Yet Another Demuffining(sp?)
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:25:37 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert Charles Lebeau) writes:
> [that he's bi too!]

Warm, welcoming *hug*gy things! :-)

And yes, you do spell demuffining like that.  However, extra-cute
muffins are allowed to spell it however they like ...

Mike, who thinks that recent trends require a change of name from "muffins"
to "tribbles"
-- 
Mike Lloyd                         | B0/1 h- f- t w- c g+ k(+) s m- e? 
Retro-hippy, music nut, bi and     | "The Trouble with Normal is it
owner of a one-track mind:         |  Always Gets Worse" - Bruce Cockburn
   "thesis .. thesis .. thesis"    |    (-:   F**k Your Gender!  :-)
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Change is GOOD!!!
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:21:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <Bvx3qy.7vr@news.larc.nasa.gov> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
+
+Biblical number?  I thought the important part was that it was prime.  This
+rules 40 out, but 41 and 37 are okay.

There are a number of 40's, 40 day fast, 40 years in the desert,
etc. There's even a 49 year cycle, 7*7.

-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
From: adden@lincoln.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Muffins?
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:46:54 NZDT

Hello Possums..... What the hell are Muffins, I know the eating kind. But some
Fellow SOC.BIer's keep talking about Muffins. Please enlighten a young and
totally confused Bisexual Gay fag hag on MUFFFINS


Arrrggghhhhh.....

	Andrew Denley
	CCB
	Lincoln University
	New Zealand

*HUGS* & *LICKERS*

 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: borah@cs.cornell.edu (Vicki Borah)
Subject: Re: Teensy Weensy Virginities
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:09:11 GMT

In article <1bghi1INNqbf@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:



>
>Hmm ... I suppose that means that bi's have 9 virginities? Wow ...
>
>I'm impressed.
>
>
>-- 

I personally consider it a new virginity everytime I try something new
sexually, especially something I've been thinking about doing for a
while, but am either too nervous or haven't found the right
partner(s). I've got several I'm working on now :)

--Vicki
From: rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert Charles Lebeau)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Yet Another Demuffining(sp?)
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:51:52 GMT
Organization: Almost forgot to change this line, wouldn't want to accidently
	      give my University any credit for my post.
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


>->
>->	Well some people might be getting sick of demuffinings (last
>
>Never!

Thats good to hear.  I would hate to be boring people. 

>->I'm BiSexual [what a shock on this newsgroup 8^) ]
>
>*gasp* No! Another one of those ?! 

I know...they seem to be everywhere around here.  I wonder if there
is some way to get rid of them?

>*hugs* *grins* and so on ...
>
>Welcome to the family :)
>
>-- 
>Roy S. Rapoport    rsr@soda.berkeley.edu       bdsm@ocf.berkeley.edu

Thanks.  Its nice to feel welcomed.  So far since posting I've been *hugged*  
*kissed* *grined* *pounced* and *slurped*.  I love all this attention.
Hmm.. maybe I'll get another account under a different name and demuffin
myself again.  That way I could get twice the attention and affection.

-- Robert
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From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Followup-To: soc.bi
Date: 8 Oct 92 06:29:27
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In-reply-to: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu's message of Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:04:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.120414.28830@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
> That said; I think the wording was a bit tacky and open to misinterpretation.

> As an alternative one might suggest:

>  If you meet a Queer on the road, fuck em!

*GRIN*...I wondered about the wording myself (I didn't get it until I
asked about it, but I knew it wasn't the surface meaning).  I like your
restatement...sounds like fun...more than that, it's the first "fuck
<x>" slogan-type-thing that I'd say "sure!" to...*GRIN*.

Muffy
--

Muffy Barkocy                               muffy@mica.berkeley.edu
~Little round planet/in a big universe/sometimes it looks blessed/
 sometimes it looks cursed/Depends on what you look at, obviously/
 But even more it depends on the way that you see~ - Bruce Cockburn
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: I am not a bisexual!!!!
Date: 8 Oct 1992 06:23:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct8.033630.16318@leland.Stanford.EDU> mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd) writes:

->and my close-second favourite (see above):
->	"Bisexual Separatist"

*blink* Sat here for about 5 minutes, trying to figure out the logistics of
that statement, then gave up :)

->	"Some of my best friends are heterosexual, but I'm perfectly
->	 bent myself."
->

You know, I used to think I'd like to get a button saying "Some of my best
friends are vanilla," but I'm slowly realizing that pretty much all these
nice, meek, het friends of mine, or at least, quite a few of them, maybe
_aren't_ as vanilla as I thought they were ... :)

-roy, who thinks flirting with his straight best friends (male) is really
 really fun ... 
 (of course, they flirt back ... nothing like calling "But I haven't gone
 down on you yet" to a friend from about 50 yards away to just _SQUICK_ the
 freshmen :) )

Gads, I'm incorrigible ...


  
-- 
Roy S. Rapoport         rsr@soda.berkeley.edu          bi-bdsm@ocf.berkeley.edu
             Sick and perverted? Me? Why, _Thank you_! 
DISCLAIMER:  "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: Edinburgh Muffin Pops up in Bay Area
Followup-To: soc.bi
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Distribution: soc.bi
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:06:57 GMT

In article <10952@scott.ed.ac.uk> bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk 
 (Bethan Davies) writes:
>In article <2ad078bb@ThreeL.co.uk> adc@threel.co.uk 
 (Alan "D." Culloch) writes:
>>P.S., for those who were at Dave Berry's Edinburgh party, I was the one
>>with the longish dark hair, pink dungarees and a vague, happy look...
>
>*VERY* pink dungarees as I remember. And the photos will also confirm the
>expression (probably more vague than necessarily happy as it was about 
>3am by this point). Mind you, you shouldn't forget to mention the flowery
>shirt....

Sounds like an attractive combination... of course I was never much for
soft muted colors myself ;)




-- 
 Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
 alunde@nuacvm.bitnet |  Feminist   |.......|.........................
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Femme/Butch in Bisexuality
Keywords: Femme Butch
Date: 13 Oct 92 06:10:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Oct12.180732.1318@rational.com> iw@Rational.COM (The_Virgin_Ho) writes:
+
+Many people think that femme equates to feminine, to make-up, 
+prettiness, passiveness, docileness, submissiveness and powerless
+ness, adjectives used to describe women. Butch equates to mascu
+line, to macho, assertiveness, power and dominance. 

I watched a movie titled: "The Linguini Incident" staring Rosanna
Arquette and David Bowie. There was a character(can't recall her
name), who designed bra's which also included 'protective' devices,
as in ones that had knives which popped out as required. Anyway, one
of the character's lines were something to the effect of 'watch out
for beautiful, dangerous women'..
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
From: rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert Charles Lebeau)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: I am not a bisexual!!!!
Date: 9 Oct 1992 06:20:42 GMT
Organization: UCSC <--Facist Administrative Pigs (Pigs get such a bad rap)
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


>-roy, who thinks flirting with his straight best friends (male) is really
> really fun ... 
> (of course, they flirt back ... nothing like calling "But I haven't gone
> down on you yet" to a friend from about 50 yards away to just _SQUICK_ the
> freshmen :) )


	Freshmen (freshpersons/freshpeople for the PC) are extremely fun
to mess with.  That is their purpose at College.  It is a reward for
surviving previous years that you get to make the Freshlings feel 
confused, displaced, and uncomfortable.  8^)  (all of the preceeding
has been meant jokingly)


>Gads, I'm incorrigible ...

Well I can't really say after having never met you, but you might be. 8-P
But actions like that might actually have a positive effect in the long
run.  Because the Freshthings see, hear, and are exposed to homo- bi-
sexuality which is subject that is pretty taboo in high school (expect
to be used in an insulting and hurtful manner) IMO.  So continue to be
yourself and be incorrigible if you want....but have fun (my general
philosphy on life).

					--Robert , tormenter of grammer
						   spelling, and 
						   freshmen
:wq  <--- a vi typo...forget to exit insert mode...just thought i'd
           leave it in to prove once and for all that i'm an idiot. 8-)
From: orc@amber.uucp (David Parsons)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Two women please
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:21:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Oct14.212127.5335
Followup-To: orc@amber.uchicago.edu
Organization: Department of Catastrophes

In article <1bhqi2INN36n@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
[a cute story]


   And the scores:

   5.8
   5.9
   5.8
   5.8
   5.9
   and a 5.3 from the Russian judge!
                 ____
   david parsons \??/ orc@sybase.com
                  \/
From: zen@death.corp.sun.com (d)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:02:50 GMT
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Organization: savage hackers
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In-reply-to: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu's message of Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:04:14 GMT


In article <1992Oct8.120414.28830@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>  rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
> >In article <ZEN.92Oct6233259@death.corp.sun.com> 
>  zen@death.corp.sun.com (d) writes:
> >->    If you meet a queer on the road, kill them.
> >*cough* *sputter* *choke* 
> >OK ... call me clueless ...
> >Err, huh? What was that?
> Well, this may *not* be what (d) meant -- but the original saying was:
>  "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him."

  Yup.  A self referential statement, which I hoped would be made
obvious by my login name.

> The point, as I read it, is that "enlightenment"
> comes from within, not from external authority. Worshiping the
> external Buddha is a barrier to progress. Similarly, in the coming-out
> process, our development comes from being true to ourselves, not
> by mindlessly following the example of some "super-queer".

  *Wonderfully* said.  Of course, any attempt at trying to write down an
interpretation of such a thing, is, by *definition*, doomed to fail.
But well done anyway :-)

>As an alternative one might suggest:
> If you meet a Queer on the road, fuck em!

  Amen... you have a gift for words...

 -- d