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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:48:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      A minor LEAP

Leap of Faith is one of those frustrating, half-baked movies that
starts out promisingly, then gradually loses faith in itself and the
audience. After spending a good deal of time entertaining us with a
fascinating exposition of the con games and fake miracles concocted
by tent preachers, the film suddenly turns Spielbergian, staging its
own "genuine" miracles and serving up one bogus uplift after another.
A central problem is the casting of Steve Martin. Although he's a
talented and charismatic actor, he doesn't seem to have one cynical
bone in his body. We can't help but like him even when he's being a
jerk. A Steve Martin movie always means a happy ending. It's nice to
see Debra Winger again. Her radiant presence has been missed. Lolita
Davidovich and Lukas Haas are fine but Liam Neeson barely registers as
the local sheriff out to get Steve Martin. The movie is directed by
Richard Pierce(The Long Walk Home, Country) whose specialty is corn-
fed sincerity. At one point in the movie, the Steve Martin character
says to the sheriff, " So what if it's a lie. The important thing is
we're giving these people hope". Too bad, I can't say the same thing
about LEAP. The movie was a lie, and I didn't feel good after the
movie. I felt cheated.
                                                        Rolando
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Subject:      Re: pole to pole

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Subject: RE: pole to pole

Chris:

I missed the first part, but caught the second where Palin traveled through
Finland, Norway, Russia.  Interesting stuff and funny at the same time.  I
particularly enjoyed Palin's attempts to buy (brown)vodka at the state run
market in Leningrad.  Also, the fact that he spent what amounts to almost an
entire weeks wages (for the Russians) on 7 pears.  Enlightening.  The ferry
trip to Istanbul and the crawfish dinner were also great fun.  Worth watching.

Ellen
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:57:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Siskel and Ebert's worst

Here are Siskel and Ebert's worst films for 1992 -
         Shining Through - Ebert's worst
         Frozen Assets - Siskel's worst
         Whispers in the Dark
         Toys
         Medicine Man
         Babe
         Folks
         Stop or My Mom Will Shoot
         Shadows and Fog
         Christopher Columbus, the Discovery
I only saw three of these and they appeared in my worst list - Shining
Through, Toys, and Medicine Man.
                                                       Rolando
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:14:00 EST
From:         AMBLY@CLUST1.CLEMSON.EDU
Subject:      Re: Siskel & Ebert Top Ten

I've never heard of BAD LIEUTENANT.  Who's in it and what's it about?

Adrian
Clemson
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:23:50 -0500
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Subject:      Re: DEEP SPACE 9 actors

Penny,
Didn't recognize him in DS9 (have to check that episode again on tape...),
but the Clint Eastwood villain you mentioned is spelled Andrew Robinson
(rather than Robbins).  He was also the hapless cuckolded dad who got
possessed, then ripped apart by Pinhead and friends in Hellraiser....
Jeff Clark
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Date: 7 Jan 93 17:45:00 GMT
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Dorothy!!!
I've been waiting to see your name pop up on the list.  How the heck are you!?
Things are very different around here.  You probably wouldn't recognize the
ole place.  Anyway, I'll keep the personal stuff short and write you at your
personal address. Just to keep this movie oriented.....Sooo you didn't like
AFGM? I have been trying to find the time to go see it.  Should I just wait
for the video? The coming attractions look very powerful.  Its amazing what
can be done with advertizing. Also, ST:DS9 is airing here on channel 50 Sunday
afternoon at 3:00.  I will be recording.
Take care, all the best
Glad to see you got your hands on a computer,
Mike
MSU.
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:22:51 -0500
From:         Cinzia Knight <SSTSCEK@VCUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      the crying game

POSSIBLE SPOILER follows:


This is directed to the women on this list (the men's opinion have been
quite clear):
maybe I am oversensitive on the subject...but did anybody feel a little
bothered by how 'male' this movie was? I had the perception that it was
ALL from the male perspective (more so than other movies).  I did not
find it 'shocking' nor intense. And yes, it bothered me that there was
only 1 woman  in the movie and she was as macho as she could be,
 not to mention extremely negative.  I am not saying that Jordan should
have made a feminist movie, for the story it was probably ok like that,
but I think this explains why I did not enjoy as much as my male friends.

Any thoughts?

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:41:00 EST
From:         EMC93@UNO.CC.GENESEO.EDU
Subject:      Re: the crying game

Cinzia,

I completely agree with you on the subject of the Crying Game being a "male"
picture.  However, from your posting I cannot figure out if you liked the
film or not.  I thought it was quite dull and I cannot for the life of me
figure out why everyone is making such a big deal out of this film.  Yes,
the plot twists were surprising but the whole movie made me feel uncomfort-
able, especially the parts with Dil.

Any comments???

Erin
SUNY Geneseo
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:11:00 EST
From:         EMC93@UNO.CC.GENESEO.EDU
Subject:      Re: S&E, and The Crying Game

Will someone please explain why "The Crying Game" was so great?  I saw it a
few days ago and I didn't think it was that fantastic.  Suddenly everyone
is turned on by a few gross killings and a s/he.
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Subject: 2 Questions
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:30:18 GMT
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              5 Jan 1993 11:15:06 -0500 from Ens Alexander W Ellermann
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From:  Mary Shaffer
       Assistant to the Vice President
       Information Systems
Alex, the guy who played the scientist in TERMINATOR II (haven't seen FOREVER
YOUNG) and the alien in John Sayles' BROTHER FOR ANOTHER PLANET is Joe Morton.
You can catch him in Sayles' excellent CITY OF HOPE as a crusading councilman.
He was also in a TV series about lawyers but I can't recall the name (didn't
watch it, just heard about it).

Thanks,
Mary
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:00:22 -0500
From:         SKR2@PSUADMIN.BITNET
Subject:      Another Actor Joke

Q. What's an actor/vampire?

A. A guy who can't see his ego in the mirror.

From:
A recent MST3K
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:31:00 EST
From:         "Peter J. Schledorn" <UNCPJS@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Aladin

> I caught this one at a bargain matinee the other day.
> YIPEE!!  What a FUN, FUN, FUN movie.  If you haven't
> seen it, you ought to check it out.

The day before we took the kids to see Aladdin, we rented Ferngully,
in which Robin Williams provides the voice of a bat.  His performance
in retrospect seemed kind of like an extended sketch for the role of
the genie.  It was interesting to see the two in close proximity.  The
kids liked Ferngully, too (I did as well).

Best,
Peter

> Joe
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:19:24 -0500
From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Peter's Friends & Tom Hulce

Good morning!


        ***MINOR SPOILERS IN FIRST PARAGRAPH***




        I finally saw PETER'S FRIENDS over the weekend and, while I lost track
of time for an hour and forty-five minutes, was so disappointed by the ending
that I left the theater a bit crestfallen.  I predicted the host's condition so
early in the film that it had no emotional impact & the whole closing sequence
seemed to me like a way of saying, "well, we couldn't think of a decent way to
end this picture, so we'll just stop here."  The photography was simplistic,
but in all fairness I must admit that I'd just seen APOCALYPSE NOW again so had
unreasonably inflated standards.  On the positive side, I thought the cast
turned in fine performances & the picture kept the audience laughing much of
the time.  Overall, I liked it, but I wouldn't say it was worth the hour's
drive both ways.

        In other (non-cinema) areas, I saw Tom Hulce perform as HAMLET this
weekend, as well.  I was most impressed by the chances the man took with the
character.  He glissaded right over the lines that audiences traditionally
mouth along with Hamlet & instead worked with the lesser-known material.
Hamlet is such a tough role to play because most of the audience already knows
it so well, but Hulce, IMHO, successfully explored the role & came up with
some thoughtful new perspectives.  A fascinating performance from an excellent
actor.  I just wish I could see again - I know I missed a lot the first time
around.
                                                        Alex
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:34:53 -0500
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject: attention: Rick Francis

Apologies to all for sending a personal message to Rick this way, but I
don't have his address.

Rick, are you still entertaining proposals for the panel you'll be chairing
at California Joyce?  If so, could you tell me a little about your
conception of the panel?  The blurb in the letter sent out by Kim Devlin
does not provide quite enough info on your panel to enable me to
understand fully what it is you're looking for.

Thanks,
michael mcdonald
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:33:28 -0500
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Subject:      Re: X'mas movies

Rolando, have I misread, or are you actually praising Demi Moore's
performance in *A Few Good Men*?

Also, please note that it's *Howards End*, sans apostrophe.

thanks,
michael mcdonald
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:47:22 EST
From:         Scott Huddle <grass@CHAOS.ENTO.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Happy Birthday HAL

HAL became self-aware Janurary 12, 1992.

Happy Birthday HAL, if you're listening.

-scott
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:15:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      X'mas movies

Hollywood continued its depressing trend of making movies for
accountants. The Christmas list offered big stars, big directors,
big budgets - more glitter, less substance. I haven't seen HOME ALONE
2 or THE BODYGUARD, but judging from the trailers, cast, and premises,
both will probably end up in my ten-worst list. HOFFA and CHAPLIN, two
more glossy biopics that softpedal the darker aspects of their subjects,
remind us what a remarkable achievement MALCOLM X truly is. TOYS is a
film Tim Burton or Terry Gilliam should have made. USED PEOPLE aptly
refers to its audience who has to sit through this lethal dose of
bittersweetness. A FEW GOOD MEN has Tom Cruise trying very hard but
showing little, Nicholson doing little and stealing the movie, and Demi
Moore proving that there were a few good women in movies last year.
There were some bright spots. Robin Williams found the perfect role in
ALADDIN. Al Pacino and Chris O'Donnell proved that there's life left in
the buddy genre in SCENT OF A WOMAN. The most talked about film of the
season was a little film from Ireland, the glorious THE CRYING GAME.
In fact, some of the best films last year were either foreign or inde-
pendently made - HOWARD'S END, HAIRDRESSER'S HUSBAND, THE PLAYER. Well,
here's hoping that 1993 will be better...let's see...opening Jan. 15,
BODY OF EVIDENCE, starring Madonna....
                                                      Rolando
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:17:11 CST
From:         C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: pole to pole

>Sorta off the track, but maybe worth mentioning...
>
>Did anybody catch the first part of Michael Palin's
>documentary on A&E last night? He traveled from the
>north to the south poles and chatted with people
>along the way, very interesting and laid back so far.
>
>The scenery in the first part (Artic Circle Area) was
>awesome... you really got a feel for the beauty of the
>area and the 'alone-ness' of it all. What did you folks
>think?
>
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Chris Conn                  All know that the drop merges into the
>sascmc@unx.sas.com          ocean but few know that the ocean merges
>Leander, Texas              into the drop.
>                                              - Kabir
>


I enjoyed it also, but those darn A&E series always seem
to fly by my schedule and the next thing I know is that
I've missed most of it (i.e. Charlton Heston's The Bible).
Maybe I should get A&E's magazine for the low, low price
of 19.99 (or whatever)...NOT.

Sincerely

Joe Daus
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From: <MECE7139@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> Tashko Sarakinov
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Subject: Damage??

Hi all.  Does anyone know when Damage is coming out(in Canada)?
Will this be on video or in theatres?

Thanks for any info...

Tashko.
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:35:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Michael and Liam

Michael,
      Most of the blame does go to the script but I'm also
beginning to detect the Kris Kristofferson/Sam Shepard syndrome
in his acting lately - the lazy delivery, the act-like-you-just
got-out-of-bed-so-they-think-you're-natural method of acting.
Anyway, thanks for the compliment.
                                            Rolando
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:15:06 -0500
From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      2 Questions

Hi, folks!

1.  Is PETER'S FRIENDS due for wide release anytime soon?

2.  Is the guy who plays the scientist in FOREVER YOUNG & TERMINATOR 2,
in addition to the alien in BROTHER FROM ANOTHER PLANET, in anything else?

                                             Curiously,
                                                      Alex
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:00:39 -0600
From:         CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: JFK

It has been a year or so, since I saw this, but i did like this movie.
As historical fiction, it was well acted, directed and interesting.

And I didn't mind too much that Stone's agenda came out in the speech
at the end of the movie via Costner character.  However, if he was
going to nominate JFK for sainthood, he forgot to include that JFK
was going to "Save the rain forest, clean up the environoment" as
well as "stop the cold war" as stated in the movie.  There were obviously
some over dramatizing of the "conspiracy" and "sainthood", but since
I looked at this as fiction, I don't think I got upset like other folks
who watched this movie and were trying to designate it as TRUTH OR LIE.

Carol Doms
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:17:24 -0600
From:         Chris Conn <sascmc@UNX.SAS.COM>
Subject:      pole to pole

Sorta off the track, but maybe worth mentioning...

Did anybody catch the first part of Michael Palin's
documentary on A&E last night? He traveled from the
north to the south poles and chatted with people
along the way, very interesting and laid back so far.

The scenery in the first part (Artic Circle Area) was
awesome... you really got a feel for the beauty of the
area and the 'alone-ness' of it all. What did you folks
think?

_______________________________________________________________________________
Chris Conn                  All know that the drop merges into the
sascmc@unx.sas.com          ocean but few know that the ocean merges
Leander, Texas              into the drop.
                                              - Kabir
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:45:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      More critics' awards

Looks like the Oscars for UNFORGIVEN. The National Society of Film
Critics(critics from 25 national publications) gave Unforgiven the
Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay, and Best Supporting
Actor. Best Actor went to Stephen Rhea(Crying Game), Best Supporting
Actress to Judy Davis, Best Actress to Emma Thompson, and Best Foreign
Film to Raise the Red Lantern. Unforgiven already swept the L.A. critics
and is up for several awards in the Golden Globes. The Golden Globes
continues to be the joke that it is by nominating Sharon Stone for
Best Actress(Drama).
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:53:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re:Questions

Alex,
   Peter's Friends will be in wide release Jan. 15. It got mixed
reviews here in Chicago with ratings ranging from 1 to 3-1/2 stars.
   Also in wide release then is Madonna's new movie, Body of Evidence.
I'm sure everyone's waiting anxiously for that one.
                                                    Rolando
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:00:51 -0500
From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Forever Young

Morning, all,
        Saw FOREVER YOUNG last night & found it to be one of those movies
that, though fun & engrossing while I saw it, quickly broke down under
criticism over drinks at the local watering hole.
        The premise was nifty, & Mel Gibson does a good job of looking like a
lost puppy for two hours.  The picture was big enough and maybe too cinematic
(ok, way too cinematic), but it was a fun way to spend two hours.  Also, it's
nice to see Jamie Lee Curtis up there again.
                                                All for now,
                                                                Alex
Oh, yeah, who was the guy who plays the modern scientist?  I know he's the same
fellow who was in TERMINATOR 2 & BROTHER FROM ANOTHER PLANET, but what else has
he done?
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:32:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Howards End

Michael,
       It never occured to me that it's without the apostrophe. I
did check the ads and you're absolutely right. But I'm not the only
one - I checked the local movie schedules and they spell it with '.
With or without, it's one of the best; classy, literate, stylish and
wonderfully acted. Emma Thompson is a shoo-in for the Oscar. Susan
Sarandon is her closest competitor(I haven't seen Lorenzo's Oil), but
not that close.
                                                       Thanks,
                                                       Rolando
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