HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: marky mf mark does it again
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:20:40 GMT

I have some ideas myself of some songs where I thought the beat resembled the
one for "How I Could...", but to clarify your post, can you tell what song(s)
you are talking about?

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
From: lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Teamin' up
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:26:01 GMT
Organization: PennState - Fayette Campus Computer Center

In article <su7osB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji) writes:
>I wonder if any other rap groups out there would team up with anudder 
>group like PE did w. Anthrax? Personally, I think Public Enemy and Living 
>Color would make a dope combination....If they were to do Fight the 
>Power, or another ruff song from the PE collection, I am sure they would 
>click together...

Well how about Sir Mix-a-lot and Metal Church (They did the Black Sabbath
standard "Iron Man" on Mix-a-lots "Swass" album, I believe it was) as for PE
and Living Color good suggestion, and already been done Chuck and Flav
did a short rap on Living Color's "Funny Vibe" and it kicked major ass the
only unfortunate thing is the rap on the album version of "Funny Vibe" is
shorter than in the vid and I haven't found a copy of it with the extended
rap anywhere.  Anyone know of any more crossover team up's?  Besides of
course also PE and Anthrax doin' "Too Much Posse" on Anthrax's Live Noize


								  -Lee
From: rojohnso@libws1.ic.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Commercials
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:10:43 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Originator: rojohnso@libws1.ic.sunysb.edu


Hey guys..

I just wanted to add my 2 cents on the rap in commercials...I personally cant
stand to see the corny 'rapping' commercials, because first of all, when rap
first came out, tight assed america and other ignorant asses who fall into
that group were quick to call it jungle music, and all other types of negative
slams which not only attacked the music form, but I also believe the black race
. Weve been through all the race/rap songs and dances on here, so I wont
prolong it any further, but it is just sooooo annoying seeing these lightweight
corny jingles, that they feel, if recited with a sort of stereotypical b-boy
attitude and is done with some tired hip hop dance steps, then it is to be 
considered rap.  I feel now that they see that rap *is* a true form of music to
be reckoned with, and that it is in fact selling very well, then they are going
to hop on the band wagon and try to capitalize on it. I know that a smart
businessperson would be stupid not to jump on anything that looks like it will
make them money, but I personally feel it shows how superficial they are and
anytime I see one of those annoying commercials, I view it as a mockery. 

                                                      Peace to all fans
                                                       of the true hip hop 
                                                           artform

							   --RJ
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From: ip234@brems.ii.uib.no (Morten Hoff)
Subject: Re: Music
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 16:10:37 GMT

In article <Bvt5AI.AJI@acsu.buffalo.edu>, simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon) writes:
|> 
|> 	A lot of people are sampling recent music lately...like on TLC's
|> album, they sampled "Peace is not the word to play" and some PE..."Rump-
|> Shaker" crazy samples famous breaks too...Mary J Blige sampled "Top Billin'"
|> smoothly...I noticed that D-Nice's "Just Call Me D-Nice" is a popular 
|> sample this year...
|>
And of course, En Vouge's "My Lovin'" contains samples from James Brown's
"Payback". 
  A newer example: 
On Prince's new album, he uses a lot of samples, including NWA's "Niggaz For Life"
and Eric B & Rakim's "I Know You Got Soul". He even adds some live scratching
in a few tracks. 

Morten Hoff
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From: djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J)
Subject: testing
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:02:00 GMT

justing testing posting
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Positive K
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:28:12 GMT
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Just saw the new Positive K video for, "I Got A Man."  It features Pos K
rhyming against an unknown female voice (nothing like, "I'm Not Having It,"
with Lyte), with him doing what he does best... trying to pick up women!  It
pits him in different situations trying to pick up women that already have a
man over a cool musical beat.  Could this mean that his debut album, DA SKILLS
TA PAY DE BILLS is finally on it's way out?  I hope so.  I've been dying for
him to drop a full album and want to hear the, "NightShift," remix, which is
supposedly better than the original.

                                              T-Dub
                                              SHYGUY productions
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From: cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787)
Subject: this stupid letter
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:29:00 GMT

That guy that said, "Rap sucks balls!" needs to get his stupid ass off alt.rap 

and shove his caveman country head up there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please add more insults below.

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From: dskimish@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Skimishara)
Subject: bolo
Followup-To: alt.industrial
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:56:26 GMT

Distribution: usa
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: 


YO yoyo, What say we form an alt.bolo to excange bolo
information/challenges and maps.  char *word
Dave
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Understanding Hip Hop
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:34:56
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
	<92282.23500634LI4E6@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> <fedde.718651552@Minsk>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se's message of 9 Oct 92 17:25:52 GMT

>>>>> "Fedde" == Fedde Engler <fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se> writes:

  Fedde> Madison J. Gray <34LI4E6@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

>But in order to understand the black experience, you hav to have lived 
>the black experience, and in most cases that means being black.

  Fedde> Man...are you saying whites cannot understand this music to the full length
  Fedde> of it? What a load of crap, if that is what you mean! I have been listening
  Fedde> to this type of music from its VERY, VERY start, and I love it so much, that
  Fedde> when a dope beat comes on, it even seems to affect me physically sending wierd
  Fedde> feelings over my body. I call that an experience of this music and I don't
  Fedde> have to be black to feel it. 

Can't you even read what you quoted? To make it even simpler:
Hip-hop != full-gamut-of-african-american-life

In fact, I would argue that it reflects a relatively small segment of our
culture. There just happens to be a large dollar value and non-black
interest in it. Feel free to enjoy hip-hop, to create it if you want, to
participate fully in every way. But don't claim you understand what it is
to be black just because for the last N years you've been listening to a
musical style that's only 17 odd years old. 

That's like having a closet full of Cross Colors, Raiders jackets, and X
hats and claiming you know what it is to be black.
--
xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.

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From: pa56680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (P. Ialamanna)
Subject: ATCQ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:29:33 GMT

Yo, Can someone school me as to how A tribe called qwest got their really
WEIRD,but cool, group name?


-- 
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			  in, and I'm bringing my big, bad opinions with me"  * 
 I represent the Univ. of Illinois. (Along with 50,000 others)===DISCLAIMER== * 

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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: House of pain
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:09:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.130015.11245@waikato.ac.nz>, pkingi@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>Yo! Just wondering if yous could give me any info about the House of Pain. I
>just scored "jumpin' around" (on import) and was wondering if they have
>any more good stuff or an album even. That song uses an awesome sample, sounds
>like one of Winnie Attawell's numbers from the 50s. Anyway, you can 
>see that we are probably months behind the rest of the world so its not my
>fault I'm not with it. Much appreciated,
>
>Pat

Yes, The House Of Pain does have an album, entitled, "Fine Malt Lyrics."  After
advoiding the album for a while, I picked it up on wax and the album is dope. 
A definite must have for hip hop fans.  The beats are F-A-T.  Two of my
favorite cuts include, 'House Of Pain Anthem,' and ,'Put Ya Head Out,'
featuring B-Real from Cypress Hill.

                                                  T-Dub
                                                  SHYGUY productions

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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Shante And Redman
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:52:44 GMT

Just a note....

I stopped in the records stores this morning and Redman's album, "Whut? Thee
Album," is out (with crazy cuts, including, 'Hardcore,') as is Shante's new
one, "The Bitch IS Back."  I will have Shante tomorrow.....

                                             T-Dub
                                             SHYGUY productions

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: chattha@fraser.sfu.ca (Guri Chattha)
Subject: Re: Tours
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:37:40 GMT


	Wut UP,

		Didn't Ice Cube tour on the Lalapolooza (sp?)
	thing with Red Hot Chilli Peppers etc.?
		Also, Public Enemy is opening up for U2 in
	Vancouver on November 3rd or 4th; might just be
	worth checking out.
				-Peace, I'm Audi.

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From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Mark Morales...
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:07:22 GMT

I used to be a huge Fat Boys fan so I can say with confidence that Mark
Morales is indeed Prince Markie Dee formerly of the Fat Boys, (who now
sound weird without him).  Their last album "Mack Daddy" wasn't bad, but
it wasn't good either.  I've only heard one song from Markie's solo album,
I forgot the name of it, he made a video for it, and I must say, I HATE it.
It's a love song.  Maybe if that's the only love song on the album then the
album may be decent, but I doubt it.
                                             
                                         ->Spice
From: sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Canadian groups
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 12:03:44 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

- 	Don't forget Michie Mee ("Jamaican Funk...Canadian Style!"), and 
- the DJ's of Main Source (okay, they were only BORN in Toronto) When is 
- the new Dream Warriors due? Too bad they had to get props in England first 
- before Canada would take notice. Maestro Fresh Wes ("Conductin' Thangs", 
- "Drop the Needle") sounds too much like Big Daddy Kane to stand out...what
- about the two rappers from Montreal who were big a while back? I forget their
- names. Canadian groups tend to be linked more to the US, England or the
- Caribbean than to Canada...
- 
- -- 
- Patrice Simon
- simon@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu			v5097ucd@ubvms.buffalo.edu
- opnsimon@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yup...them too...I believe the Dream Warriors should be released any time 
now...I read 6 months ago they were finishing up some stuff on it...

There was that one rappper, Kish a.k.a. Vanilla Rice who was sorta 
popular, but I think he died out...

True, most of the rap groups here are from the Caribbean, so they get 
linked there instead of Canada. There are some real good groups here in 
Edmonton, like The Maximum Definitive, Divisional Rebirth, and Task Force 
which are making an impact here...mebbie we will hear more about them 
nationally...


Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
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From: travgod@next09wor.wam.umd.edu (THE NIGGA IN CHARGE)
Subject: Common Sense Lyrics...
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:06:02 GMT

Does anyone out ther know where I can get the lyrics to the tracks off of  
Common Sense's new cd _Can I Borrow A Dollar?_

For those of you who haven't heard it (or heard of it), he's a new artist  
on Relativity Records & IMHO it's worth givin' a listen to...
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: mcw4765@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.C. Walker)
Subject: Re: Rap sucks balls
Originator: mcw4765@ultb
Keywords: sucks
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:27:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.010509.29999@pellns.alleg.edu> leej@pell1l11.alleg.edu (Jason Lee) writes:
>Anything that can't be played with a band is horseshit!

What is you're definition of a band. 
Could it be? :
    Singer, and a guitar player.
    Singer, guitar player, and a drummer.
    Two singers, two guitar players, and a drummer.
    Singer, a guitar player, a keyboardist, and two drummers.
    A horn section, a string section, and a whole shit load of drummers.
    etc...

I hope you get my point; I would hate to have to list all the
combinations.                      
Oh, by the way, does the fact that "horseshit" can't be played with a
band make it "horseshit"?

P.S.
   Your "mom" is a cowboy!

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From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: rEDMAN
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:39:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	So by now Ive listened to Redman's album a couple of times, and
I must say it kicks!  Reggie comes off HAAAAARD!  And the production
is near perfect.  He's got a good future ahead of him.  

	Charles, review please.................................aMIL
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Possible Origins of Hip Hop Re: DJ Cool Herc
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:24:13 GMT
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct7.030653.1368@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>Caz, Flash and Bambatta.  In 1982, The Sugar Hill Gang put out the first
>popular/successful hip hop record on wax, 'Rapper's Delight.'  A lot of people
>

Am I tired or what?  1982 should be 1979.......

>                                                  T-Dub
>                                                  SHYGUY productions
>
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: bolo
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct12.235945.21539@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes...
>I'm big on bolo...
>Diffinitely supporting it .
>Send it to alt.config for response
>                                                 -LX                   
>                  


	Could someone please clarify what BOLO is?

							cLUELESS  
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From: cs201127@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs201127)
Subject: Name that beat!
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 07:19:53 GMT

     I was listening to a local radio station here in Baltimore earlier today
and I heard a beat that I want some information on.  I don't know the name of
the song but it's on the movie soundtrack for "Deep Cover" and it's done by MC
Ren and a brother named Snoopy something or other.  Well, the beat is DOPE and
I want to know what else it's used in and possibly the source if it's not
original.

-Jay

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From: sknezevi@aludra.usc.edu (Steven John Knezevich)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: House Of Pain sample
Date: 10 Oct 1992 14:53:42 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


I'm pretty damn sure that is Prince.  I'm not 100 percent positive just because
I haven't sampled it myself and checked it.  I think it is just because that
gets sampled all the time.

Peace
I'm out like Parachute pants
From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Beastie Boys 'Check Your Head' Lyrics
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:37:06 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1b7j8dINNccn@aludra.usc.edu>, sknezevi@aludra.usc.edu (Steven John Knezevich) writes:
> Just write to Grand Royal...the address is in the CD and they will send you
> all the lyrics for Check Your Head.  Also, they will send lyrics for the
> song year and day on Paul's Boutique.

I don't know if it got included in the CD, but I know the address
listed in the tape leaves out the ZIP Code.  Is it in the CD?  Does
anyone know what it is?
-- 
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From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: ATCQ Hot Sex Video
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:45:07 GMT
Organization: UB

>>I saw that video Saturday and with Tip wearing that mask (looked more like
>>Leatherneck than Jason), I wondered, is that even Q-Tip?  EPMD's, "Rampage,"
>>did a good job of protraying Cool J, but it wasn't him.  Also, if that was not
>>Tip in the video, well, why?  Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....
>> 
>>                                            T-Dub
>>                                            SHYGUY productions
>>                                            aka Mr. "Learning-That-Some
>>                                                     People-On-This-Net
>>                                                     Don't-Know-What
>>                                                     SARCASIM-Is"

	Whatever it is, it doesn't seem like a good move...I didn't think it
was Q-Tip either - he was walking backwards for most of the video. 

	By the way, why are we taking these "Rap Sucks..." posts seriously
anyway? I thought they were jokes? 










-- 
Patrice Simon
simon@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu			v5097ucd@ubvms.buffalo.edu
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From: ip234@brems.ii.uib.no (Morten Hoff)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Generic Shit
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:39:33 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway

In article <92281.112845U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>, Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Last Poets (or was it Gil Scott Heron)
|> go on record in the Source and say that they did NOT want to be sampled?

Gil Scott Heron said that people would show him respect by NOT sampling him.
I don't think the Last Poets  said anything about sampling in the article 
in Source.

Morten Hoff
From: d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: The Remix Thread.
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:52:57 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

fedde@Sofia.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:

>simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon) writes:

>>	On PE's lastest, the remixes for "Louder Than A Bomb" and "You're 
>>Gonna Get Yours" are all that! 

>Agree! And also "How to kill a radioconsultant" was dope! :)

>Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)

C'mon, the  'You're  gonna get yours' remix is nuts, they've just broke up
Chuck's rap with the B-side of the 12"!!!
Idiotic, you miss the whole point with the rap thing, sort of a (dumb) DUB-
version.
also, I liked the original version of '..Radio...', but the remix, NO!
No producing skills from Chuck Chillout there, If there is any..

'Louder than a bomb' is a decent remix, though, only if you're tired of the 
original..

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From: fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Paris
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:22:28 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

sven@stud.cs.uit.no (Sven Jonsson) writes:

>I heard some dope rhymes some time ago by someone called
>Paris. Can anyone tell me the titles of the albums Paris
>has released.

Look for _The Devil Made Me Do It_ and _Sleeping With The Enemy_.

--
Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
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