HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: grellier@ufrima.imag.fr (GRELLIER thierry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: wanted GTHOR and COMP'OTH
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:37:20 GMT
Organization: Univeristy of Grenoble


	I'm looking for these two programs which are the best othello
	in PD. So if someone can help me to find them, or better send
	them me uuecoded by e-mail, don't hesitate !

	Thanks

	Thierry

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From: sanders@sci.kun.nl (Sander Stoks)
Subject: Re: STZIP-2 Problems
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:07:55 GMT

In <1bbi02INNhnk@golem.wcc.govt.nz> sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>HELP !!,
> Are any of you having problems with corrupted ZIP files created
>with STZIP_2...? (crc errors)
>We thought at first that this was a godsend of a archive utility,
>but have since found that the Devil got in there some where, so all of
>us here have now droped it, any clues any one..??

H*ll, I can't even get the stupid thing extracted. I downloaded
STZIP20.TOS twice, tried to run it, but it just returns to the desktop. 
Renaming it to STZIP20.TTP and running it with "x stzip20.ttp" as
commandline doesn't help either. 

What am I doing wrong here? 

(Please don't suggest I download it AGAIN, with the "binary" swich
SET. I'm not THAT stupid...)

Sander SToks
sanders@sci.kun.nl


>Roger..............                sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: rogeraw@dhhalden.no (ROGER ALLAN WAHLGREN)
Subject: Re: Case Design for Falcon
Keywords: Falcon
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:58:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.093323.5179@ericsson.se> etlgtme@etlxd20.ericsson.se (Grant McFarlane) writes:
>From: etlgtme@etlxd20.ericsson.se (Grant McFarlane)
>Subject: Re: Case Design for Falcon
>Keywords: Falcon
>Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:33:23 GMT
>In article 13790@u.washington.edu, antony@milton.u.washington.edu (Anthony Hand) writes:
>>>From what i've heard the Falcon 040 is going to be in an IBM style
>>> case. I think! I must remember to capture that message about it and
>>> post it here.  Don't take this as fact though....until I post that
>>> message, my memories shocking! :-(.
>>
>>I've heard this also.  I just hope that the all-in-one case doesn't scare off so
>many buyers that Atari isn't able to finance this second machine.
>>
>Not so in the UK. 'ST Format' magazine (October) reported that the first
>Falcons (base model ie no hard drive) to be on sale in the UK will be in the
>old 1040 STe style case, the only noticable difference being that the keyboard
>keys are a dark grey, and the FALCON 030 logo of course. (They had a picture).
>I don't know how the model with the built in 65Mb hard drive will look.
>IMHO this is one almighty f**k up. When I bought my 520 STFM originally I
>hated how it looked but LOVED its capabilities, especially MIDI. Jesus, how I
>hate those function keys. I only hope Atari come to there senses and give this
>machine the professional look it deserves. B-(
>
>Here's some prices I saw in November's issue of 'ST Format' (Yes! Its on sale
>NOW!! in the UK). I called a supplier to ask if he had any in stock. "They'll
>be in stock in a week and a half", he said.
>
>(Prices in UK pounds)
>
>      1.44 Floppy | + 65Mb HD
>     ------------------------
>1Mb      499      |   899
>2Mb      529      |   929
>4Mb      579      |   979
>8Mb      779      |  1179
>16Mb     979      |  1379
>
>Grant.
>
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>_/_/_/_/_/ _/        _/  _/_/_/_/    | be if they didn't." (Steven Wright)
>

The Falcon 030 will come in an 1040 case, but FALCON 040!! will come in an 
IBM like case. The 030 will also be sold in this case later next year.....

R.A.W
From: v115lue3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Apprentice Of The Obvious)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: 520ST, 1-meg 520ST, & SC1224 for sale
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:52:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

The following items are available w/ all appropriate mice, cables & power
supplies, etc..and are in extrememly good condition:

1 - 520ST, SS drive, mouse, etc..			$80

1 - 520ST, upgraded to 1-meg, DS drive, mouse, etc..	$100

1 - SC1224,						$100

*********
  If you don't like the price, make me an offer - I need to pass along this
equipment (I'm moving shortly).  Thanks!
*********

.Philip
From: saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Program to read ST disks on a PC needed
Summary: sector editor...try ULTRA Utilities
Keywords: ST PC
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:18:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

In article <1992Oct4.031955.10027@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> bldaniel@unccsun.uncc.edu (Brian Daniels) writes:
>
>
>I'm looking for a program to run on an IBMPC clone that
>will allow me to read ST-formatted 720k disks.  I noted one
>on atari.archive called ataridsk.zip, but it seems to be 
>corrupted (total size is ~47 bytes, and unzip says it's not
>a zip file).   I'd appreciate a pointer to a program to do 
>this...

Assuming that the situation is that you've arrived at a PC with a disk that
you formatted and wrote to on an ST, and now you can't read or write that
disk, here's what to do (and yes, this is from personal experience).

Fire up a suitably tolerant sector editor (I use the one from the old 
bbs-distributed ULTRA utilities.  At least one version of Norton Utilities
does NOT work, but others may).  Read in the first sector on the floppy (this
is where sector editors which are not suitably tolerant balk).  Change the first
3 bytes to EB 34 90 (that was 3 bytes of hex.  They would normally have been
00 00 00 when you read the sector).  Write the sector back to the disk.  It
will now work normally on PCs and compatibles.

                               Steve      saj@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: annius@sif.research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Tramiel's got the spirit (was: New Mac Prices)
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:01:13 GMT


>>... and turn it into the umpteenth MS-DOS clone company. No thanks. I
>>read somewhere that Tramiel said "We'd rather go bankrupt than make
>>boring PC-clones." (or similar). Now THAT's an attitude.

They have always made and still are making boring PC-clones aren't they?

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Atari ST/Music          A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl  +31 70 3464732 (evenings)
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From: cpb@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Chris Billows)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Jack - from Commodore to Atari
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 11:14:45 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

What I want to know is:

How is it that Jack Tramael(?) managed to be so successful with the C-64 
and Commodore and yet can't repeat that success with Atari?

Surely the ST line of computers is superior to the C-64. But I remember 
those "I Adore My 64" commericals.

Anybody care to voice their opinion?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: boyd@shmop.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: Re: speech synthesis in C
Reply-To: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 04:25:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.153636.1248@cenaath.cena.dgac.fr>, roux@cenaath.cena.dgac.fr (S. ROUX) writes:
>
>  I have uploaded the file c_say.zoo to atari.archive.umich.edu in the directory
> atari/New. This file contains a C function: say(int mode, char *buffer) that emits
> phonemes to the internal speaker. This source was hacked from speach.tos.
>

Do you have the source to speech.tos?  Or even full documentation?  I remember
S.A.M on the atari 8-bit, and you could do some neat things in phoneme 
mode.  Speech.tos has such a mode as well, but I have never seen any real 
documentation for it (the default mode of "type english and hear it" can be 
vastly improved on when in phoneme mode, as you can adjust the inflection on 
each sound).  

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From: C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Jeoff Hines)
Subject: Is Overscan worth my trouble???
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:14:18 CDT

  I just got overscan and oscan 60 from an ftp site and I can't decide if I
want to dig into my atari 520ST with 2.5 megs and do the modification.
The instructions were somewhat cryptic for a novice like myself to handle,
and I am not quit positive what the real advantages are.....
  Could some "happy-to-have-overscan" user out there reccomend it to me,
or warn me off of the project?   Thank you.
Jeoff Hines                    c556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu
 
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: annius@sif.research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Borland and Pure C (was: Which programming language?)
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:56:01 GMT

roodhart@fwi.uva.nl ( Jeroen Roodhart (I88)) writes:

>>In <OKES.92Oct10153611@SunLab43.essex.ac.uk> okes@essex.ac.uk (Oke S) writes:

>>>The way I heard it was that the US branch of Borland didn't want to be
>>>associated with a 'toy machine' like the ST. Fortunately their German branch
>>>were a little more open-minded, which is what led to the existence of
>>>Pure C in the first place.

I suppose by Pure C you mean all versions of Turbo C for TOS. Anyway, since
distribution is now done by Application Systems Heidelberg, they might decide to
translate the manuals after all (that is, if they're allowed to).


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Mathematics/Comp. Sc.        avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl       +31 70 3325445 (weekdays)
Atari ST/Music          A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl  +31 70 3464732 (evenings)
_____________My opinions are my opinions____________  +31 5700 29396 (weekends)
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: flopticals
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:01:19 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Oct8.223217.19286@klaava.Helsinki.FI> mluoto@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Markku Luoto) writes:
>
>	does anyone KNOW (atari boys maybe ?)
>	wether AHDI 5.0 (or some other AHDI)
>	supports 21Mb Floptical SCSI drives
>	like INSITE I-325vm ?
>
>	If it does, where to get them ?
>	Toad computers ? anyone got a fax-number ?
>	or could call them and ask wether they have ?

Contact ICD.  Their version 6.0.0 utilities support the floptical.  That
version also ships with the Link.

Looking at ICD's CPX, they have an office in Germany:

ICD Europe GmbH
Am Goldberg 9
6056 Heusenstamm
Germany
06104-6403
06104-67581 FAX


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: annius@sif.research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Case Design for Falcon
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:21:42 GMT

gordonf@monashee.sfu.ca (Gordon Farrell) writes:

>Well, aside from the cost issue that has been pointed out before (which may
>of may not be a lame excuse), I can think of one possible reason for the
>all-in-one design of the Falcon: musicians.  Not being one, I can only guess,
>but it seems to me that it would be much easier to carry around and set up
>a one-piece machine for playing shows.  Whenever I see a computer on stage,
>it's usually a laptop, so I guess the fewer the number of pieces, the better.

Oh no. One flexible keyboard cable is definitely preferable to lots of cables
going out of the heavy all-and-the-keyboard-as-well-in-one unit.

There is one point in what you say though; that is I'm writing a program
for musicians that doesn't use a CRT so the ONLY thing you need is a power
cable and MIDI. The program uses (user definable) LCD displays of remote
MIDI devices.

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Mathematics/Comp. Sc.        avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl       +31 70 3325445 (weekdays)
Atari ST/Music          A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl  +31 70 3464732 (evenings)
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From: hm342st@uni-duisburg.de (Joerg Plewe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Forth on Atari a.o.
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:34:27 GMT
Reply-To: plewe@mpi-dortmund.mpg.de
Organization: Universitaet Duisburg GH
NNTP-Posting-Host: duc220.uni-duisburg.de


Interested in Forth programming?
Interested in a system, which generates code for all 68k-computers?
Interested in Forth systems for any machine?
Interested in connections to the Forth scene?



	plewe@mpi-dortmund.mpg.de
	
	
	
		Yours,	J"org Plewe
		
		
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453)
Subject: Re: Falcon 040 so soon? (was Re: Tramiel's got
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:16:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.122506.3850@arizona.edu>, paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Paul Harris) writes:
|> In article 25937@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes:
|> > In article <Bw48CH.CJH@sci.kun.nl> sanders@sci.kun.nl (Sander Stoks) writes:
|> > >Ok, I'm the one who started this thread and yesterday I read the
|> > >interview in which Tramiel said this. It was a translation into Dutch,
|> > >so I'm sure the re-translation won't do it any good. The exact
|> > >statement was that Atari would either continue making exciting new
|> > >technologies, or they'd drop the Res&Dev department completely and
|> > >continue making boring PC-clones. But Tramiel wouldn't have to cope
|> > >with this, since if it came to that he'd leave Atari. BTW, in the same
|> > >interview the Falcon040 was promised for 1992, a (20MHz) cheapo TT and
|> >                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> > >some other things. Tramiel "could safely promise to show the Falcon at
|> > >the CeBIT in '92", and it would have 24 or 32 bit graphics :-). 
|> > >Well, well...
|> > 
|> > Umm, this should be a neat trick.  Considering that it's Oct. 92 now
|> > and we still haven't seen the Falcon030, just how does Atari propose
|> > to get an 040 out in the next 2 1/2 months?
|> > 
|> > I'm assuming this is a typo.  Anybody who has read the article care to
|> > correct this?  I, like many others I'm sure, am considering biting the
|> > bullet and upgrading my aging 1040 to a Falcon.  I'm just wanting to
|> > know which one it will be. :-)
|> > 
|> > Joe
|> 
|> Well, in the October Atari Advantage it says (in the editorial section, I
|> think), that the F040 is to be unveiled in November (yes, next month), but
|> Atari is trying to keep a lid on it until then, trying to sell the F030.
|> 
|> -Paul Harris
|> paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu


  You guys can't be very serious believeing Atari promises.  I can buy
the A4000 at a dealer NOW.

  I don't want to start a flame war, but this comments go to those 
fanatics that kept saying that the Falcon will bury C= (Jeff Young?).

  To those that are realistic out there, I wish you luck.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: boyd@ioctl.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: Re: Atari FTP sites
Reply-To: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:39:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.043634.13681@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.220910.17354@ulrik.uio.no>, jarleb@athena.uio.no (Jarle Brinchmann) writes:
>>
>>Back in the old days Chris Wood used to compile a
>>quite good list over anonymous ftp sites. Much better than
>>what you get from using archie....
>>
>>Is he or somebody else doing this still, my last list is from
>>29/04 -92. (Well maybe not so old days) ?
>>
>
>Unfortunetely, no.  I have a copy of the last version, which I still use a 
>lot (greps are always faster than archie :-).  If there is enough interest, 
>I can post it.
>

I am wrong.  Apparently someone else picked up the list and is maintaining 
it.  I am not sure where it can be ftp'ed, but I am going to find out!!  

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Background Picture w NEODESK
From: bhawker@oneb.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 11:49:37 PDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Nanaimo, B.C.

grillo@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (GUEST Savino Grillo) writes:

> 
> Hi there,
> I'm an happy user of NeoDesk (3.0), I bought it used from a friend of mine
> at a very very low price ( with some others stuff) and no manual, lost in
> a house-moving, so now I heard that with NeodDesk is possible to replace
> the boring desktop background with a picture, how I can do that ?
> Is it also possible the default font ?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 					Savino.

Yes, you can replace the destop with a picture.  The picture you use
must be Degas, Degas Elite, or NeoChrome format.  All three resolutions
of Degas are supported.  Load the picture(s) of your choice into the
NeoDesk folder and rename it to NEOPIC_L.PI1,PC1,OR NEO as extender for
low rez pics, NEOPIC_M.PI2,OR PC2 for medium rez or NEOPIC_H.PI3 OR
PC3 for hi-rez pics.  Of course the picture to be loaded must match
the screen resolution that NeoDesk is about to load into.  You can
have all three pics in the folder if you use all three resolutions:
NeoDesk will examine the files and load it in the correct format.

Note however, that the Desktop picture will use 32K when at the
NeoDesk desktop, but will unload when  running a program. You must
have the "Unload for Execute" option set to "Yes" for this to work.

As far as the font loader utility, if I understood your question
correctly, you can place a copy of FONTLOAD.PRG from  the fonts
folder of the extras disk into the AUTO folder. Place the 
NEODESK.FNT file into the root directory of the boot drive, the
Neodesk3 folder, or the Auto folder itself. Fontload will look at
those three places to load it from.  If neodesk.fnt file is not
found, the system font will be used.

Hope this helps... from one very happy NeoDesk user to another!
Cheers!

           bhawker@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Bruce Hawker)
     The Old Frog's Almanac  (Home of The Almanac UNIX Users Group)    
(604) 245-3205 (v32)    <Public Access UseNet>    (604) 245-4366 (2400x4)
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From: mbaffoni@skat.usc.edu (Michael Baffoni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: What kind of monitor is BEST with a Falcon?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 18:51:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct15.212521.27966@bnr.ca> no email writes:

>An unrelated point - There have been a lot of posting to the effect that 
>'Gee, I hope the Falcon040 has a 96000 DSP'.  I assume that these people think
>these are binary compatible, or that they think Atari is MORE stupid than they
>seem.  Why would a non-suicidal company build in incompatibility like that?

	Are the 96k binary incompatible with the 56k?  What about putting in (I
believe the number is) the 56002?  Isn't that an enhanced 56k?

>Now, maybe more 56000 RAM.  That would be cool, and transparent to all but the 
>OS.  SIMMS, too.  There is NO WAY Atari can put out memory cheaper than SIMMS
>can be bought for.  What was the justification for this?

	Remember, atari isn't putting out memory, and from what I have 
gathered, the memory card won't even need memory-handling chips on it (refresh,
bank selection, etc.) - all it does is provide an flexible connector for
installing simms.  If atari put in simm sockets, someone will complain about
not being able to use their ZIPs, or their DIP memory they have lying around.
Heck, if it could handle the power, you could use 256k chips and a 2-4 
multiplexer (or a 16-4) to simulate 1MB (4MB) memory.  You can't do that if
all you have are the stock SIMM slots.  Oh yeah, I forgot to add SIPPs.
Or any (working) combination of the above, depending on the board.

	As it is, I am rather disappointed that the memory-handling isn't done
on the board, as it would allow you to add more than 14MB.  Heck, you could
even "move" the unused 2MB above the restricted 14-16MB area so you don't
"lose" it.  I certainly hope that the '040 falcon will not have the crippled
memory architecture of the '030.  I'm thinking that UNIX will become very
usable on the '040, but not if it is limited to only 14MB (yuck!).  Don't
get me wrong, for most purposes 14MB is more than enough (even with multiTOS),
but UNIX is a whole 'nuther order of magnitude (at least in its memory 
usage :) .

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From: selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: IMG to PS for Notator?
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:53:05 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: selick@csa


Is there any way to go directly from the 300dpi img output from Notator
3.1 to a postscript file that can go directly to a ps printer?
Any word on a ps driver for Notator?
-Steve 
selick@csa.bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sanders@sci.kun.nl (Sander Stoks)
Subject: Re: Gulam & TOSwin
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:18:42 GMT

In <1992Oct12.230227.3999@u.washington.edu> dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward) writes:

>Why won't Gulam run in TOSwin?  Does anyone know any shell that does?

Don't know, but you don't want to use Gulam as a MiNT shell anyway
now, do you? The MiNTShell that comes with MiNT is basic but nice (I
wish it had filename completion and history...) and since I have 3M
RAM to play with I use tcsh (which has filename completion and
history, but eats up a LOT of RAM...)

Some time ago the "SYNTH Shell" was promised to the net, by Edward
Deegan (vatec@sun.plc.ac.uk), which would be a VERY small shell with
VERY impressive features. Alas, never heard of it since. I've tried to
mail Edward, but I didn't get any reply. Anybody knows more about
Synth? 


>Thanks,

>Dan Aylward
>dud@u.washington.edu

Sander SToks
sanders@sci.kun.nl