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From: brw@aber.ac.uk (Benjamin Roy Whittle)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: REBOOT info request
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:38:48 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


Has anyone any recent publications of the Esprit REBOOT project, I would like
an overview and details of the sources of more detailed reports.

Thanks in advance.

Ben Whittle
UW Aberystwyth
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
Subject: Re: Concurrent Engineering
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.035115.19473@den.mmc.com> kummer@possum.den.mmc.com (Jim Kummer) writes:
>Prof. Nancy Levenson writes:
>
>> > Concurrent Engineering was a popular idea in the 1950s. 
>
>In the '50s the goal of CE may have been to get a product out the door
>as quickly as possible, at the expense of quality and safety.  That is
>certainly not true today.  Completion of the first article may actually
>take longer with CE than without it, but the goal is that the first
>article will require less rework in the production phase due to fewer
>problems in quality, machining, packaging, etc.

Sounds to me that the term has come to mean something different from
what it was originally.  The question is whether it evolved into something
different, or whether the term has been resurrected to describe a new
process.
---
Michael Turner
miket@tcs.com
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.text.desktop
From: karl@grebyn.com (Karl A. Nyberg)
Subject: Brother and WordStar -> ASCII or WP?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:54:47 GMT

My father-in-law has a need to convert some files used by a Brother
Electronic Office Typewriter (EM-1000 and EM-701fx) and WordStar in to a
format that can be used by Word Perfect for a client.  I have hacked
together a basic translation for the WordStar format, but something with a
little more thought into it would be great.  I haven't even been able to get
the Brother's diskette (3.5in) to read in (I'm trying to mount it using PCFS
on a Sun SPARC), so I'm assuming it's not in DOS format.  Anybody have
solutions better than printing the whole document off and running it through
an OCR scanner?

--
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From: nziring@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Neal Ziring)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Maker -> RTF Conversion?
Summary: Anybody know of a way to convert FrameMaker files to RTF?
Keywords: MIF maker RTF word
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:41:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond


	Does anybody know of a commercial or public product that 
can convert FrameMaker Maker Interchange Format (MIF) or FrameMaker
Maker format files to MS Standard Rich Text Format (RTF)?
Please email any clues to

		Neal Ziring, nziring@afterlife.ncsc.mil

Thanks in advance...
-- 
...nziring  (Neal Ziring  @  Afterlife, Nat'l Computer Security Center)
INFOSEC Evaluations Technology Division - "If you want it done bad,
					   this is the place!"
Xref: sparky comp.text:1494 comp.text.sgml:1230
From: murraya@ul.ie
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.text.sgml
Subject: Marking up 'Automatically' -anyone
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:43:33 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

Can anybody give me details on an application to mark-up text from ordinary
ascii files 'automatically', using certain Rules  eg. two blank lines 
indicates the begining of a paragraph. 

Any  information on the subject would be appreciated!

  <Aonghus>
From: pla_jfr@sld64pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Frame 4.0 (Was Re: No 4.0 for NeXT???)
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:01:28 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


In article <GERRY.92Dec17100057@onion.cmu.edu>, gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes:
|> Vincent Manis' article, although short, summarizes my feelings about
|> Frame Maker also.  Yes, it is easy to use, and yes, for many simple
|> applications, it gets the job done.  But you must really give up quite
|> a lot, for example, when switching from TeX.  The other problem is
|> that Frame seems to only know about lines, where TeX knows about
|> paragraphs and pages, thus the documents set by TeX ALWAYS look
|> better.  (This is in part due to TeX vastly superior use of kerning
|> and glue.)
|> 
|> What really bugs me though, is that these comments have been said for
|> years, and no one at Frame seems to be listening.  Seriously, what
|> was the big deal about the 2.1 -> 3.0 release?  Not much that I could
|> see, except tables.
|> 

... and conditional text.

|> So, Frame folks, are you listening?  We are disgruntled!  If you don't
|> improve your product, you will lose in the end.
|> 

What's about FrameBuilder?
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: mgelman@cyclades.ma30.bull.com (Michael A. Gelman)
Subject: Changing import by reference to import file?
Reply-To: mgelman@cyclades.ma30.bull.com (Michael A. Gelman)
Organization: Bull HN Info Sys, Billerica MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:51:20 GMT

In version 3.1X: Is it possible to convert an "import by reference" to
an "import a copy" of a document?  Without re-importing the document?

The situation is that I created several documents with an imported
screen dump, "by reference".  I just re-arranged my document
directories and *surprise* all my references are wrong.  Is there a
way to tell FM to just import the referenced file as a copy?

--Mike Gelman
-- 
Michael Gelman -- M.Gelman@ma30.bull.com 
Bull HN Info Systems -- Advanced Engineering Program 
(Any similarity between my opinions and those of Bull, living or dead, are
entirely coincidental.) 
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kelem@xilinx.com (Steve Kelem)
Subject: How do you copy a Document Format from one document to another?
Organization: Xilinx Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:29:51 GMT

From the Book/Use_Formats menu, you can copy paragraph, character, and
table formats, page layouts, reference pages, variable definitions,
cross-reference formats, and conditional text.

How do you copy the Document Properties like Allow Line Breaks After
(certain characters) and the Before Saving & Printing and Pagination
options?

Please reply directly to me.

Thanks,
/7\'7  Steve Kelem	(408)879-5347		kelem@xilinx.com
\\ `   Xilinx					FAX: (408)559-7114
//     2100 Logic Drive
\\/.\  San Jose, California 95124

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From: wh0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Earl Hefley)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: frame-->RTF???
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:08:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.AfBWFLK00iV102uVoU
Organization: Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Does anyone know a good way to go from Frame or mif files to RTF files
that Microsoft Word can read? On a Mac, of course. I'm running 3.01 and
used the translater that came as the free goodie with the 3.01 upgrade,
but the quality of the rtf is so poor that my colleague cannot recreate
the document in Word.

Thanks for any pointers....

bill hefley
weh@sei.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: halberst@world.std.com (jerry halberstadt)
Subject: color display of markers
Summary: Can a selected marker display in color?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:19:06 GMT

Doing an *index* I use the Edit:Find to select one after another of the
index markers for further edits. It is not always easy to spot the cursor
highlighting the marker -- a problem when I get disoriented and try to
figure out what the marker is supposed to refer to, what is the surrounding
text? 

Since the 15" color monitor is too small to view the Find box as well as
the Marker box without obscuring the view of the page -- it can be hard to
figure out where the cursor/highlighted marker is.

Is there a way to teach Frame to make the markers be a color different from
the text, and another color when selected?  What is the point of a color
display if it is only monochrome (and fuzzy at that!)?

Environment: 486 x 33 MHz, Dos 5.0, Windows 3.1, Stealth driver, 1024 x 768
display. 

Any suggestions gratefully welcomed; thanks.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: clarke@mahakala.wpd.sgi.com (David Clarke)
Subject: bleeds in frame
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Computer Systems Group
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 17:55:31 GMT

I have an image I want to bleed off the edge of an 8.5x11
page.  I also want crop marks to appear ( I will actually
be printing on to an oversized sheet).  If I set my page size
to 8.5x11, I can't pull the image off the edge of the page
so it bleeds.  If I set my page size to larger than 8.5x11,
I can get the bleed, but my crop marks now bound the
larger page size.

It looks like I'm going to have to set my page size larger
that 8.5x11 and manually insert the crop marks to bound
an 8.5x11 area on my larger page size.

Are there any other solutions to this problem?
-----------------
David Clarke
Publications Production
clarke@wpd.sgi.com
(415)390-5137
From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: omitting special characters in running heads
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:15:22 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <BzEoFq.7tD@unx.sas.com> sasjmg@dickens.unx.sas.com (Jodie Gilmore)  
writes:
> 
> This is sort of an urgent question, as my book is in production. Please
> email responses, and I'll summarize to the group.
> 
> I have chapter titles which contain registered trademark symbols. The
> R symbol is in the Symbol font, the rest of the title is in Helvetica
> bold.  I have defined running heads to use the chapter title. But when I
> print them out, the R from the title appears as a double-quote in the
> running head (probably because the running head is defined in an italic
> Helvetica font, not Symbol)--I do not want the R to show up in the
> running head AT ALL. I could live with it showing up as an R. I can't
> live with the double-qoute!

You might consider putting your R symbol inside an anchored frame attached to the  
chapter title. You can position it accurately and reuse it in other chapter titles.
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From: hartman@informix.com (Robert Hartman)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Eroff (mainly MM Macros) documents to Frame documents ???
Keywords: converting MM Macros Eroff
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:39:26 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1gm9pkINNerh@ephor.tusc.oz.au> tim@ephor.tusc.oz.au (Tim Shaw) writes:
>I am looking for a method/utility for converting Elan Eroff (Version 2.2)
>Documents to Frame (Version 3.1X) Documents which will require minimum manual
>operation.  Please help!
>
>tim@tusc.oz.au

I've done this using a sed script that converted -mm tags into MML.
The MML can be imported into an open Frame document, or you can use
mmltomif to convert the MML into MIF.

It took me half a day or so to concoct a sed script that translated
about 80% of the formatting information.  If I'd wanted to bother with
awk or perl, I probably could have approached 100%.  The tricky items
were nested numbered lists and three-way font changes.  I just found
those and fixed them by hand in Frame after importing the MML.

-r
From: exudjp@exu.ericsson.se (Dennis Plafcan,xt-tw,0364)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Cutting and Pasting Question with Sun keyboard
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:50:08 GMT
Reply-To: exudjp@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.


I want to use the Copy and Paste keys on the Sun keyboard for
transferring text from a Frame document to a text editor. The 
version that I'm using is Frame 3.0 for X-windows, specifically
OpenWindows 3.0. We had this capability in Sunview.

Is there an Xdefault or a Frame default that I need to set, or do
I need to change something in the key definitions for the Copy and Paste keys?

Please send E-mail if you can help me with this.

Thanks,
Dennis Plafcan
exudjp@exu.ericsson.se
Ericsson Network System
Richardson, Texas
From: hartman@informix.com (Robert Hartman)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Autonumbering page numbers for chapter TOC
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:48:27 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Dec29.025734.29052@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi) writes:
>Okay, my first query was so successful I've got another....
>
> ... In addition to the book-wide
>TOC, the format dictates chapter TOCs.  But when I generate the TOCs
>directly from the file, all I get is page numbers, no chapter
>numbers.  ...
>
>I've tried setting the page number on the Reference page to
><$paranum[ChapterNumber]>-$pagenum> and
><$paranum[ChapterNumberTOC]>-$pagenum>, neither of which work.
>The only way I can think of to generate chapter TOCs which include
>the chapter number in the page number given these circumstances is
>to create a separate book for each chapter and use the "Set Up File"
>dialog to set the prefix manually.  Has anybody got a better idea?

When I was whacking Frame formats, I got around this by means of a user
variable in the chapter.  User variable values are reliably propagated
to generated documents, so when I created a new chapter or rearranged
chapters, I had to remember to update the variable (a minor inconvenience).
I also kept the page layout for the chapter TOC in the original file's
master pages, so when I needed to generate a new chapter TOC I didn't
have to bother with applying formats from a template.  I used column
layout from the page menu instead.  In my TOC paragraph specification
on the reference page, I used references to the user variable instead of
<$paranum ...>.

That was the best way I could think of to handle it without going
for a PhD.  Anyone got a better trick?

-r
From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: copy n paste with x-apps?
Summary: how do it
Keywords: X cut copy paste
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:07:18 GMT
Followup-To: comp.text.frame
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

We find a lot of restrictions/contradictions with copying text between
applications on a Sun platform. I would really appreciate any advice
and hints on how to make this work more predictably or regularly.

Here's the setup: 
	system: Sparcs running SunOS 4.1.2.
	Frame: 3.1X
	GUI: motif window manager
	other apps: Sun's cmdtool/mailtool/textedit
		    X11R5 xman, xterm, xcb

The latter, "xcb," is a freeware program that supplies 8 cut buffers
from/to which you can cut/copy text from other X apps.

What works:

"Hilite Copy":
	if you hilite ascii text in the window of ANY application,
	you can paste a copy of the hilited text into the window
	of an X-app or Frame, using middle-click.  This lets you
	bring ascii text into Frame.

	Sun tools treat middle-click as "extend selection" and do
	not paste. Thus you can copy *from* a sun app this way, but
	cannot copy *to* one.

"Clipboard Copy":
	if you copy text to Frame's clipboard with Edit:copy
	(or key equivalent), and provided that you have NO text
	hilited in ANY window, you can paste the clipboard text
	into an X-app using middle-click.  Only the text is pasted,
	no formatting.  Sun tools ignore this text also.

What does not work:

"Formatted Copy":
	we can't find a way to copy text out of Frame and then back,
	preserving its formatting. Only the raw ascii is copied.
	The hex values of at least some special symbols are preserved,
	though unprintable in other apps, and can be copied back.

"Sun Apps Copy":
	we can't make the Sun apps based on the Open Windows text
	widget communicate well.  You can copy *from* one into Frame
	using Hilite Copy, but you can't copy *to* one in any way.
	Thus you cannot copy a Frame paragraph and paste it into
	a letter you are composing with MailTool.

"Sun Cut/Copy/Paste":

	The Sun apps seem to have their own private clipboard. You
	can use the Cut/Copy/Paste function keys to pass data
	between Sun apps, but this text has no relation to
	the Frame clipboard or the X selection.

	You can make the Cut/Copy/Paste keys work as macro triggers
	and thus make them perform Frame cut/copy/paste logical
	functions, but this has no relation to the Sun app functions.

This makes rather a zoo of inconsistent rules when introducing
new users to the Sun/Frame platform.  Any suggestions on how to
improve the situation are very welcome.

Thanks,
  Dave Cortesi
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: palkar@chaos.ee.ufl.edu
Subject: Novice user ....... Questions
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 19:48:43 GMT

Hi,

I am new to Frame-maker. I would like to include several blank spaces  
between words how can I do that. I am working on NeXT. I can insert only  
one blank space.

Please help.

MALHAR
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: jayapal@rtsg.mot.com (Jay Jayapalan)
Subject: auto line numbers
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: all
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:45:06 GMT

Is there a way to number lines in a document automatically?
I am referring to numbers that show up usually on the margins
that allow committee work and reviews go a lot faster since comments
and changes can be pointed out a lot more precisely. Thanks. If you
know the answer, could you please send me email, so I dont have to
keep checking the bulletin board. Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Subject: Re: UNIX FrameMaker Default Printer
Keywords: UNIX FrameMaker Default Printer
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:04:17 EST


David Fuchs from Frame Technology writes to me:

> Alan, I believe that the circumstances you describe do not match up with the
> reality of FrameMaker 3.1 for X platforms.  

This is a VERY polite way of telling me I lied.

> 					      In particular, if a user never
> changes the "Printer Name" field of the Print dialog, FrameMaker docs will
> remember the fact that they are being printed to the "default" printer, and
> not the particular name of the (default) printer, so when users exchange
> doc, they should print to the respective default printer of each user.

Through much experimentation (which I should have done in the first place),
I found that he is, in fact, right.

It seems that, if the contents of the PrinterName edit box in the Print dialog
matches your Maker.printerName X resource, then the name is NOT stored in your
document; if it does not match, then it IS stored.

PARTIAL RETRACTION
------------------

	The problem I descibed in my article does not actually exist,
		BUT
	The "fix" I described DOES work as I indicated.
	(It just doen't fix anything.)

Excuse me while I go crawl into a hole somewhere.

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: euakep@eua.ericsson.se (Kenneth Persson)
Subject: CURRICULUM VITAE template
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:41:08 GMT

Have sombody done a CURRICULUM VITAE template?

I could use a mail-, report-, xxx-template and modify it,
but I don't trust my skills in this area. It have to
look good, you know.

Please send me and email and I will be much obliged to you.

Merry christmas

-- 
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box 1505                          phone: +46 8 727 3381
s-125 25 alvsjo, sweden           fax:   +46 8 647 8276
From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Framemaker 3.1X has cross references confused ...
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:06:37 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Dec22.030110.25841@bmerh85.bnr.ca> myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)  
writes:
> I have cross references to a lot of paragraphs formatted with the
> Figure format. I created most of the Figure paragraphs by copying the
> first one and then changing the text. The auto-number works fine, and
> the cross reference window does show all the different paragraphs with
> the Figure format. But when I choose "Update" in the cross reference
> window, most cross references in my text to these Figure formatted
> paragraphs reverted to the first one on the list, so they all said
> Figure 1. I went through my whole document to fix this, but once again
> after I did an Update the same ones reverted back to referencing the
> first Figure paragraph again.
> 
> I believe the above qualifies as a bug. Any ideas on how to fix it?
> I've already sent the above to comments@frame.com this afternoon.
> Haven't heard anything back from them yet. This runs on a Sparcstation2.

You didn't by any chance copy the first Figure paragraph *after* you made a  
cross-reference to it, did you? If so (feel the guilt :>), all copies of the  
paragraph will contain the identical xref source marker - ie, you would have a  
whole lot of paragraphs with xref marker id 34584 or whatever. This would  
definitely drive your update process crazy. 

To fix this, you would need to search for Markers of Type xref, and remove them all  
from your Figure paragraphs - then replace each of your cross-references to those  
paragraphs individually.

If you did not make a cross-reference to the original Figure paragraph before you  
updated it, then it sounds like a bug.
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From: mhardy@acorn.co.uk (Michael Hardy)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Problem updating chapter numbers in multifile book
Date: 23 Dec 92 11:08:05 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <1992Dec21.215340.27591@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi) writes:

>In article <2109@scax18.pki-nbg.philips.de> pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Dec15.180057.732@alf.uib.no>, eystein@smyril.fi.uib.no (Eystein Dugstad) writes:
>>|> FrameMaker won't let me update the chapter numbers in my miltifile book  
>>|> anymore. When I click "File - Generate/Update" and afterwards open for  
>>|> example the fourth file in the book, the first chapter in that book is  
>>|> called chapter 1 even though there are 3 or more chapters before it.

[Stuff deleted]

>I'm running into the same problem.

[Stuff deleted]

>I have a book set up with generated files Table of Contents, List of
>Tables, List of Figures, followed by 16 chapters and 1 appendix.  In
>the book, I have set up chapter 1 so that page numbering and
>paragraph numbering reset; all following chapters are set up so that
>page numbering is reset and paragraph numbering continues.  I have
>tried this with small subsets and it occasionally works that way,
>but when I get the whole book together, no dice.  All chapters are
>chapter 1.  Now I can't even get small samples to work.

This problem is typically caused by the flows that make up your book either
not having autoconnect turned on, or not having the same tag. Check this,
and regenerate.

- Michael J Hardy

  Technical Publications    Email:      mhardy@acorn.co.uk
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