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From: madabusv@cse.fau.edu (Vasudhevan Madabushi)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: ***Question***
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:49:47 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <laqehhINN2ib@aludra.usc.edu> rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan) writes:
>I have friends who are from AP, Tamilnadu etc who think all malayalam movies 
>are pornographic. Why do movies like Onnamthirumurivu,my dear rosi etc run only
>in other states and spoil the image of malayalam movie? 
>peace
>-rajesh
>ps: please post answers on the net.

Don't generalize that people from other states think that Malayalam movies
are pornographic!  I for one, (from Madras) have been for 2 years in 
Thiruvananthapuram and if my memory goes right, all the good movies
(in recent times, like 'His Highness Abdulla', Madhilukkal, to name
a few,) did run in places like Madras and was well appreciated by many 
Tamilians.

I do agree that movies like the ones mentioned, does spoil the image of 
malayalam movies , nevertheless, you will be surprised to know that these 
movies do run in all the cities of kerala too!

Cheers!

Vasudhevan M.
From: rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: ***Question***
Date: 8 Sep 1992 16:41:37 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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I have friends who are from AP, Tamilnadu etc who think all malayalam movies 
are pornographic. Why do movies like Onnamthirumurivu,my dear rosi etc run only
in other states and spoil the image of malayalam movie? 

peace

-rajesh

ps: please post answers on the net.



Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:58:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.173628.24466@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:
>
>Making yourself a fool; you don't have to like it!

Thanks to people like you, I don't have to bother making any if I ever need
one. You're a natural.

>Mathai

Njan
From: s910700@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Mareena Joseph)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: His Highness Abdulla <> National award ......
Keywords: desiya award, malayalam movie.
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:02:59 GMT


   As far as I know, 'His Highness Abdulla' hasn't won any national award,
or even state award. I'm not sure whether it had won any state award from the
music category, but I'm sure it didn't win any national award for anything.
As the songs were semi-classical, they became very popular, and all the 
Mohanlal "fans" made a great deal about that movie; that's all.

					Mareena J. Neyyarappally,
					RMIT, Melbourne,
					Australia.

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT)
Subject: Registered Nurse
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:59:11 GMT



Hi

My sister is a nurse working in Jipmer Pondicherry. I would like to know how to
get her qualified to work in USA on H-1A visa (I heard you have to pass some
test). Pl send me the details, or give me phone no of any of your
friends/relatives who is working here as a nurse.

Thanks
R. Thiyagarajan

I post here because the majority of nurses here from India are malayalees
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: mots@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Srini S Rajan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: ***Question***
Date: 8 Sep 1992 21:50:19 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan) writes:



>I have friends who are from AP, Tamilnadu etc who think all malayalam movies 
>are pornographic. Why do movies like Onnamthirumurivu,my dear rosi etc run only
>in other states and spoil the image of malayalam movie? 

>peace

>-rajesh

>ps: please post answers on the net.

  I don't know about AP.  As far as Tamilnadu is concerned, in recent times
malayalam movies are not considered as just pornographic.  Well directed 
malayalam movies with good storyline and actors like Mohanlal, Mammuty etc., aredefinitely big success in TN.  If I remember correct, "Chitram" ran for more 
than 80 days in Madurai.  Malayalam movies always had reasonable crowd in
Madras and Coimbatore.  The only trouble is that some greedy distributors
attach reels of bluefilm in some movies and give some shady titles.  In fact,
one joke is that.. " Had Gandhi been made in malayalam, what name would have
been given by the distributors?... Kasturibayin raavugal".  I am really missing
Mohanlal movies here. 

--Srini

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From: viswanath@draco.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:16:10 GMT
Followup-To: alt.culture.kerala
Organization: Rutgers University RUCS-Newark

In article <1992Sep15.000350.19444@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Uma M Subramanian) writes:
> 
> All natural lgs. lie within
> the same level of complexity (mathematically speaking) and in particular,
> they are *at least* context-free, if not higher in the hierarchy. Hence,
> they all have ambiguity, (i.e. two different derivations for some strings),
> and therefore, not suitable as computer lgs. 

Do you really mean to say that all natural languages are context-free?
I don't have the book at hand, but I remember reading in at least two books,
one a collection of articles by Geoffrey Pullum.  (The Great Eskimo
Vocabulary Hoax and other essays, U. of Chicago Press.)
In one of these articles,
he discusses the question of who first established that natural languages
were not context-free.  If I remember right, (one of) the first article(s)
used an example from Swiss German.  He gives dates somewhere in the mid-
80's for these articles.

Do you mean perhaps that "no natural languages are non-context-free?"  
This would be sufficient to establish some ambiguity in all natural languages,
which is all you need for your argument.

P.V. Viswanath
From: rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: ***ChalaChitra Lookam***
Date: 8 Sep 1992 16:35:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
	Name		Actors				          Type
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kilukkampetti       Jayaram,Jagathy,Sai Kumar,KPAC Lalitha       Comedy
                    Innocent,Bahadur

Dir : Shaji Kailas
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nanmaniranjavan     Jayaram,Mukesh,Oduvil Unnikrishnan           Comedy/Drama
Srinivasan          Tilakan,Urvashi

Dir :VIji Thampi
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*Ente Sooryaputrikku  Srividya, Amala, Suresh Gopi                Drama
                      Pratap Chadran

 Dir : Fasil
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nattipattom         Srinivasan,Rekha,Jagadish,KPAC                Comedy
                    Jagathy, 

Dir : Kaladharan
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Ennum Nanmakal     Srinivasan,Jayaram,KPAC, Shanti Krishan        Comedy
                   Sari,Jagadish,Innocent,Mammu Koya

Dir: Sathyan Anthikkad
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Ulladakkam         Mohanlal,Amala,Shobana,Murali,Soman            Drama
                   Ashokan,Kaviyoor Ponnamma

Dir : Kamal
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*Erikku MD          Mukesh,Siddique,Sai Kumar,Jagadish             Comedy/Drama
 Akathundae
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

* Not worth watching

Peace

-rajesh
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman)
Subject: SCI Cultural Volume
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 5 Sep 92 12:31:22 CDT

                                Yes, we mean it!!

                 CULTURAL VOLUME -3: CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS !!!

     Hello All!

       We are a bunch of net.culture.enthusiasts who would like to
       keep alive a fine tradition initiated by Dr C.P.Ravikumar,
       that of collating and editing a "SCI Cultural Volume". Dr C.P.R
       coaxed and cajoled our very own net.writers, both closet
       and confirmed, into contributing some very good literary
       and cultural articles for the first two Cultural Volumes,
       and we humbly attempt to do the same for "Cul Vol 3". So,
       friends, heed this call, let your creative talents loose,
       and help show the world what we've got!

     Looking forward to hearing from you. Please send e-mail

     Prabhu Balaraman (balarama@cae.wisc.edu)
     Ajay Divakaran   (divaka@rpi.edu)
     Plus an anonymous net.culture.enthusiast!
  --------------------------------------------------------------  

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From: mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu)
Subject: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:15:02 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

	The unity of India is strongly connected with the availability
of a common national language. Even though Hindi was imposed upon all
the states to be adopted as the national language the survival of this
language in this position is doubtful. Considering the history of India
I would suggest that Sanskrit deserves a true consideration to be the
national language. The reasons for the suggestion are the following.

1.	Sanskrit was the undoubted national language of a united India.
The India which evolves from the Vedas, Upanishads and the literature of
the past has Sanskrit as the national language.

2.	Sanskrit is a highly respected language in South India. The
objections to Hindi are voiced predominantly from the southern states.
On the other hand, Sanskrit would be easily accepted as the national
language.

3.	By adopting and learning Sanskrit Indians will be exposed to the
rich Vedic heritage of ancient India. Indians will be more aware of
their unity in the past.

4.	Sanskrit alphabet is similar to all of the South Indian
languages. Only the script is different. The grammar is easy to learn.

5.	Many of the Sanskrit literature of the past view India as
united. This will help in realizing the unity of all Indians.

6.	There are Sanskrit speaking townships in South India. This shows
that Sanskrit should not be considered as a dead language. 

7.	One of the main reason to study a language is the lierature in
that language. Sanskrit boasts of an immense collection of literary
works unlike the more recent language like Hindi of which the literature
is alien to most of South Indians.

8.	Many South Indians view Hindi as more alien than English. One
reason for this is that they have no consideration for the Hindi
literature which appeals to only a fraction of Indians.


Mathai
-- 
Mathai Chundatt
Department of Chemical Engineering & Material Science
University of Oklahoma, Norman
OK 
Xref: sparky alt.culture.kerala:247 soc.culture.tamil:1946
From: madabusv@cse.fau.edu (Vasudhevan Madabushi)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: kerala, eezham and Tamils, Was: Kerala -Excerpted Notes--Icarus.
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:25:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: cybernet.1992Sep4.212541.1577
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <ck.715590397@reading> ck@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Chandrasekhar Kambhampati) writes:
>kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>
>
>> Srirangam in tiruchi was
>>almost destroyed by the mughal invaders, I heard. But the mughals
>
>Oh you heard it eh! where is the reference maan!
>
>>were weakened a lot by the time they came down south. Hyder Ali
>>of hyderaabad-andhra planned to invade TN. He was defeated by
>
>My, my, my no end to these confusions. ATleast bone up on your history
>kathivaran. Hyder Ali - just because he shares a part of his name with
>the capital of the Nizams, Hyderabad - doesnot mean he hailed from that
>place. Neither was he a mughal. He was the sultan (ruler) of Mysore so
>to speak....(ofcourse he was intially the commander of he Mysore
>armies). In his later incarnation as sultan, His capital was
>Seringapatanam - or Srirangam to us Indians who are not anglacised!
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^      ^^^^^^^^^
    Again wrong, it is NOT SRIRANGAM(near Tiruchi) , but
    SRIRANGAPATNAM, NEAR MYSORE!

    ALSO THE BRITISH CALLED IT SERINGAPATTAM (not as mentioned above)

  <stuff deleted>

>chandrasekhar

Vasudhevan M.
From: jsraghav@unity.ncsu.edu (Jay S. Raghavan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: ***Question***
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:38:48 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity

I too have experience exactly simlar responses.  I rather now find that
Mal. movies are the best of the lot. They dwell on social themes and
issues prevailing in the country and specifically in Kerala.  Hindi movies
if you notice have to talk BIG - you have to have the stereotype stories.
Either the hero or heroine is from an affluent family, then starts class
differences, calling names .... the list is endless.

Tamil and Telugu movies are a lot of so called 'masala movies'.  The movies
in these languages are excellent at times when some sensible director 
launches a good theme.  Mal. movies on the other hand are very ordinary and
present 'real life' situations.

The infamous name which Mal. movies earned was I guess during the era of
movies like 'Avalude Ravugal', 'Rati Nirvedam' etc.  These movies were also
I feel important.  They all had a message to convey.  Exploitation of women,
urges in young men .. etc.  The typical Northie guy wanted to cash on
the fancy names and made new name and new movies which were labelled -
movies from Kerala.  Once IT carried an article about how the so called cheap
movies were made.  The movie is fine excepting for some bedroom scenes
(nowhere close to western standards) massaged into the movies.  The crowd goes
to watch this - not in Kerala but some place in U.P. Bihar or other places in
north.

Malayalees are the most sensible of the lot and don't waste time on something
foolish - this is the impression I gathered being a Malayalee who has stayed
away from Kerala.  People make fun of our accent and other idiosyncracies.
We people are the most practical.

I am sorry for this digression.  Mal. movies are good anyday compared to other
movies prouced in India.  It is no wonder that some of the best directors in
India are from Kerala.  There are other languages in which good movies are produced- Bengali, Marathi, Hindi movies made by Marathi guys etc.  Interestingly if you take time to notice, all these above-mentioned categoris
stem from a strong background on play.  Movies of Nana Patekar, Amol Palekar
etc. to name some are very impresssive.

..... Jay
-- 
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		Jayakrishnan S. Raghavan (Jay)
		College of Textiles
		North Carolina State University
		
		jsraghav@unity.ncsu.edu 

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From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: Re: sari, churidar, etc. (why should I.....?!)
Keywords: Indian, traditional, costumes
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:20:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.182345.13253@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> tolia@mixer.ecn.purdue.edu (Anish Arun Tolia) writes:
>Who gave you the authority to represent 850 million people? Why

I don't think there are 850 million women in India. Not yet anyway...

Mahesh.
From: mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu)
Subject: Re: sari, churidar, etc. (why should I.....?!)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:13:19 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Keywords: Indian, traditional, costumes

In article <14468@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> s910700@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Mareena Joseph) writes:
>
>  we're from the most ancient cultured country, where all the vedas and other
>scriptures were written, where people lived and moved in society even thousands
>of years before, where individual value and freedom was given, etc etc...   
>- the culture and traditions and myths which westerners are looking forward to
>get for their own - Beware - Don't be losers at the end; don't make a chance
>
>regards,
>Mareena Joseph Neyyarappally,


Should a person from South India be proud of Vedas and other
scriptures?

I think it is time one starts dressing like Unniyaarccha.

Mathai



-- 
==================================================================

Mathai Chundatt            mchundat@kittyhawk@ecn.uoknor.edu
==================================================================
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From: annie@cc.uow.edu.au (annie george)
Subject: Re: sari, churidar, etc. (why should I.....?!)
Keywords: Indian, traditional, costumes
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 04:11:05 GMT

s910700@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Mareena Joseph) writes:


>anklet, etc. (Of course, not like a gypsy though !). Australians appreciated
>me and came forward happily, to know more about India, her culture, traditions, etc. But I was an odd one out for Indians - yes, it's the truth, you know.....

Yeah, Ozies are fascinated to know that India is not all poverty and filth.

> after all i came here not to spoil my life, but to study; 

Beleive it or not,so have most of us Mareena, even if we do wear jeans,skirts 
etc!

>  Don't think that i'm a country-type (indian phrase) person _ i do wear western
>type clothes, but not any cheap-look giving ones or any jeans or stuff like that

Jeans make a person look cheap???


>....why should i be influenced by any foreign cultures??!!! i'm not at all
>embarrassed to be an indian, but i'm very proud, extremely proud. so why should
>i worry about copying the westerners in all sense and proving them that we,
>indians, are inferior to their people, and adapting their culture in every
>manner, we are trying to be in the same level as they are ! why should i throw
>away my culture, the ancient and sacred culture ?! what ever changes we make
>in our appearance or in our life style, we still are indians, and will be 
>considered as indians only. 

Seems like everything is either black or white to you.
Take time to notice the various shades inbetween and you'd be surprised at
the number of them!

>..(i know that they don't want to ask
>about india to all indians they know, 'cause what they think is that the indians
>who like to appear like westerners are ashamed of being indians, and that they
>won't answer their questions, as they don't like any questions on india). I 

You seem to be surrounded by very strange Indians indeed! ( And very ignorant
westerners !)

>   I read in the news that indian girls hesitate to wear indian dresses to uni
>or to school in U.S., but now tell me, how they can when indians themselves
>are throwing stones on them ? Girls, why should we worry about others' unnecess-
>ary feelings ? 

Well, no matter how hard I try, I cant find a sensible reason why anyone 
would want to wear a saree with bulky jackets,stockings et al(and in the 
process it ceases to be an elegant oufit), 
during the cold winter months when more suitable clothes are available!

Indian clothes are fantastic. No doubt about that. Very few designs 
or fashions can outshine the saree for its elegance and beauty.
But that does not mean we should not adapt to our surroundings.

>THINK TWICE !!!

Well Mareena, just because a woman wears only traditional indian clothes
all the time, does not make her a paragon of virtue. A conclusion
I've come to after going thru' a professional college in India.

Ever heard of the "Holier Than Thou" attitude??
Sounds familiar?


Annie.
(also in OZ)

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: BEYOND THE SUN
Keywords: Say goodnight Gracie
Organization: The Net-Anarchists of SCI, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:42:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.213432.22647@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> fsjm@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Joseph Mathew) writes:
>
>
>
>		          Beyond the Sun
>
>	What can I write about her that you don't already know, or
>know much better?  Along with many other suitors, almost a decade ago,
>I requested an audience, found favor with her maids-in-waiting, allayed
>the fears of her gatekeepers and ran up the driveway, a single
>suitcase in hand, to the Palace. The Palace was enormous with many 
>delightful rooms and I spent many hours in a few rooms. 


1] I havent seen anything so well written in a long long time.
   Is Mathew really going to India ?
   I sincerely wish it isnt true.

2] And if you really must, think of us exiles when the rain 
   fills the ponds and the land turns that green I have never seen
   again, anywhere.
   You can bet on having one visitor when I get home.

   On a related note:

   My address is :
   Chemmanoor House,
   Near Rural Bank,
   Muthuvatoor, Trichur,
   Kerala.

   Its only a km away from the guruvayoor temple.

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From: rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: ***Onam***
Date: 8 Sep 1992 16:37:47 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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Wish you all a Happy Onam.....

Peace

-rajesh

ps: Onakodi can be sent to me by mail



Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: More movies
Organization: Stenn Pate Scimputer Coence
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:34:38 GMT

There seems to be little action in this newsgroup. So let me list a few more
movies that come to mind ... also, no one has been able to answer my
question yet : How many national film awards did 'His Highness Abdullah' win ?

Taazvaaram : Mohan Lal starrer. A great movie about two ex-friends, now
sworn enemies facing each other off in a peaceful village situated in a
beautiful valley. I think the movie won a National Award.

Atharvam : This is a must-see movie. Probably many of you have already seen it.
The movie is a few years old. Stars Mammooty as a non-brahmin scholar of the
Vedas who turns to Atharva Veda ( hence the title of the movie ) out of
frustration. A role tailor-made for Mammooty. Also stars Tilakan, Charu
Haasan, Sukumari & Jaya Bharati.

Kuruppintae Kannakku Pustakam : A movie by Balachandra Menon. Certainly
deserves a viewing. Story involves a family headed by the oldest son (in
the absence of the father) who is obssessed with many things, including
what he has achieved in life. Apart from Balachandra Menon ( is it just me
or does he speak too fast ? ) it also stars Geeta, Jayaram, Parvathi,
Moneesha etc.

I think the quality of Malayalam movies in general is quite high. More
demands are being made on the directors to take care of the subtleties
involved in basic human behaviour, and this is being reflected in the
performance of the actors & actresses. But for the flood of cheap
comedies ( which is the recent trend ), Malayalam cinema is certainly
touching an acme after a nadir during the '70s.

Mahesh.
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