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From: mjensen@ub.d.umn.edu (marc jensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Orion XTR Subwoofers
Date: 5 Oct 1992 19:39:02 -0500
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

I am looking at purchasing some new subwoofers, and I don't have much to
choose from where I live.

I would like to hear what people have to say about the Orion XTR and Orion
XTRib woofers.  I listened to a pair of 15's that were each seeing 300 watts,
but that's a little more than I have planned.  If you have these woofers
please let me know how you like them.  

I would most likely be looking at a pair of 10's, or a single 12", or _maybe_
a single 15.  My sub amp is 75 watts x 2 RMS at four ohms, and bridged mono
it produces 200 watts.

E-mail or post up here.  If I get a good amount of response, I'll post a
summary.

Thanks!

						Marc Jensen
						mjensen@ub.d.umn.edu



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From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Re: Best Amps
    <1992Oct8.073206.18157@csusac.csus.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:23:11 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I'd have to give the nod to the Alpine 3554/3555/3556 line of amps.
All have 2/3/4 channel opperation and are very versatile. 
I've had pretty good luck with Rockford Fosgate also.
From: tjd28@cas.org
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: CD Skip prevention rings...
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:17:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: cas.1992Oct15.171720.1855
Distribution: na
Organization: Hapless Hackers Corp. Columbus, Ohio


I was just wondering if anyone has tried the skip prevention rings
that go either on the outside edge or the middle hole of CD's.

Do they work?  And if so, how well?  Do they work well in indash
players or only in changers (or both)?

Thanks,

Trav
tjd28@cas.org

---------
By the way thanks for all your help with installing my new
system.  It is all Kicker (2 - 12"s, 2 - 5 1/4s, 2 - 14mm tweaters,
2 - 6x9s and 2 Rockford Fosgate Punch 45's and a Coustic XM-3 crossover.)
It sounds better than I hoped and is definately louder than I thought
it would be.  A friends generic sound meter put it right around
120db. Blew my mind...

THANKS ALOT!!!

_________
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From: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Subject: car audio equipment
Reply-To: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:00:29 EST

to: n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Jason Galanter)

Hi Jason,

-> HiFonics Cyclops 100 Watt Bass amplifier$170.00

Would you be interested in trading this unit for an 80 meg SCSI hard
drive mechanism?  If not, what's your best offer so far?  Unfortunately
I'm very low on cash (insert favorite starving college student story
here) so a trade would be preferable.  How about a trade for a radio
controlled off-road race car (a competitive one, not a run-of-the-mill
toy)?  Thanks, take care.

Glen
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From: vanm0005@student.tc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: SECURITY
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:22:22 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

Actually, tinted windows do have their advantages.  I had my car broken into
for my cheapie radar detector (I had velcro on the dash, and even though my
RD was under the seat, they still got it. )  So, when I got back to my car, the drivers side window was busted, and all the little shars of glass were hanging
onto the window tint.  That sure made cleanup nice.  I didn't have glass 
sprayed throughout the car, (although the untinted part in the door shattered 
into little pieces in the door).  Cost me $25 for a window at a junkyard, and
about two hours of labor to put the glass in.  Just thought I might share a
positive story about window tint.  And whover said "It just looks cool" was
right.  Not to mention you don't broil as much when you get in your car in
the summer.

Mike
From: amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: double-din radio W/CLOCK for '91 Buick Park Avenue
Date: 9 Oct 1992 16:17:09 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The factory AM/FM/Cassette radio in my '91 Buick Park Avenue is
quite mediocre.  The FM tuner is inferior to the 1985 Kenwood
in my VW, and the tape unit lacks music search or repeat.

Would I be best off buying a used/new GM/Bose factory AM/FM/Cassette/CD?
Is there a good mailorder source?

I want a radio that:
 (1) sounds great - the Buick is a very quiet car and a lousy radio
     really stands out
 (2) has a clock --- I'm not going to glue one on the dashboard
 (3) fits in my double-din dash opening --- something that actually
     takes advantage of the double-din space would be great, but
     I guess I could live with an adapter
 (4) has a cassette - REQUIRED
 (5) has a CD (optional) or has the controls for a remote CD

Any ideas or suggestions.  Please e-mail directly if possible.

Alex Miller
amiller@almaden.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: johnson@wrs.com (David Johnson)
Subject: Re: Cerwin VEGA
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:22:10 GMT

K-JAMZ <KPW104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Any body have any opinions of Cerwin Vega Car stuff!

Built like a brick, and would sink in water just as
good (can you sat "boat anchor?"  I knewthatchacould)

If your into dBs and worried about a speaker being able to survive
the surface temp of Mars, they're for you. If you're into sound quality,
you won't be with the CV's.

DAVE (johnson@wrs.com)
Xref: sparky rec.audio.car:4268 misc.legal:18794
From: dab@ism.isc.com (Dave Butterfield)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,misc.legal
Subject: Re: ++$70 TICKET FOR BOOMIN' CAR STEREO-Help!++
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:26:26 GMT
Organization: x
NNTP-Posting-Host: change

>> When society has deteriorated to the point where people do anything that
>> pleases them without any consideration for how it affects others, then
>> the only remedy is the law.

Nah, that just the only *legal* remedy.  There are others.

mgarber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Max D Garber) writes:
> If you get P.O.ed at those dorks, just report them...get the make and 
> model, color of car and who's inside.  I am sure that if the police got
> more than 1 call about a certain car they would stake it out.

You've obviously never filed a noise complaint.  Around here, noise
complaints are *the* *lowest* priority for the cops.  You can hardly
get them to come out when McDonalds is out in their parking lot with
jackhammers at 5:00 in the morning.  They just laugh if you call them
about someone vibrating the windows of your house with the megawatt
stereophonic substitute manhood they keep in their four-by-fours.

Grrr...
-- 
Many doors suddenly open to you when you realize you're a sociopath.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: joel@dseg.ti.com (Joel Quejada)
Subject: Reflex RT2 Tweeters - Any good?
Reply-To: joel@dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:24:25 GMT

I went to my local Car Audio store and asked about a set of tweeters. The
first thing the salesman recommended was a pair of Reflex RT2's. He said
although these didn't have a big name (and were inexpensive, $69/pair) were
just as good as any, and did well in competitions.

Does anyone have any experience with these?

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|          UNIX Systems Analyst          |    6600 Chase Oaks Blvd.           |
|          joel@dseg.ti.com              |    P.O. Box 869305, MS 8498        |
|          (214) 575-6014                |    Plano, Texas 75086              |
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From: dubear@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Dubear Kroening)
Subject: Help - Stereo Problems
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:43:59 GMT


I was wondering if anyone out there has some good advice for my problem.
It seems that my car stereo (Kenwood KRC-1004 if it's important) doesn't
work properly.  Sometimes when I turn it on the background light comes on,
but the LCD lights (time, station) don't.  When the stereo is like this,
neither the stations or the tape deck works.  It started doing this once in
a while, but occurs more frequently now to the point where it hardly ever
works.  It will sometimes cut out while it is on.

If anybody has any good ideas, any helpful comments would be greatly 
appreciated.  Please either post a reply to this post or e-mail me directly.
Thanks in advance.

Dubear - a somewhat ignorant car stereo user.
From: cjm9321@hertz.njit.edu (The InfoMan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: CD Skip prevention rings...
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:39:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct15.171720.1855@cas.org> tjd28@cas.org writes:
>
>I was just wondering if anyone has tried the skip prevention rings
>that go either on the outside edge or the middle hole of CD's.
>
>Do they work?  And if so, how well?  Do they work well in indash
>players or only in changers (or both)?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Trav
>tjd28@cas.org
>
	Yes they do work.

	BUT it depends on where you put them. Some changers can't take
CDs with them (like the Kenwood C600). I'm not sure about indash but
they do help a lot in the older CD portables. In the new ones it doesn't
make a difference since they have good mechanisms.


	I would say, if you are using new equipment, don't use them.


				Later,


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From: walkerr@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Robert A Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: enclosures
Date: 7 Oct 1992 20:32:29 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

I have a slight problem.  I have two 12 inch subs that i want to put in 
my car.  But i can only afford to build 1.07 ft^3 enclosures,  one for
each sub,  now is there anyway i can fool these speakers into thinking
that there is at least 1.5 ft^3 or so.  Or is it hopeless and I'll end
up with lousy sounding speakers?
From: JLW154@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Proton amps
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:26:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92283.112647JLW154
Organization: Penn State University


     Can anyone tell if proton amps are any good.  I,ve heard that they are but
 I'm not really sure.  I might buy one.

Thanks in advance.

Jay Wade
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Preamp noise. HELP!
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:49:36 PDT
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Oct13.135031.13148@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, ehawrysh@bnr.ca 
(Evan Hawrysh) writes:
> I've got a Rockford Fosbreak PA1-HD preamp in my system, and its causing 
> a high-pitched noise in my tweeters. [...]

Is it alternator whine?  ie does it happen when the engine is off (if not, 
it isn't alternator whine)  Does the pitch vary with engine speed? (if yes,
it's probably alternator whine)

> Would some strategically-placed diodes help?  

No.  But if it's the alternaotr, try putting a largish (say, 1000 uF at 20 V)
capacitor across the power leads right at the preamp input.  

Or... You may have a ground loop caused by the shielded connections between
the preamp and whatever's downstream of it.  Try lifting the shield connection
at the preamp (source) ends of those lines.  

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu (jason reiser)
Subject: Re: Capacitors
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:57:27 GMT

I made one small though relevent mistake when drawing that
crossover... I used the symbol for an inductor (I had a feeling when I
was drawing it that it may have been incorrect, but couldn't find a
schematic to reference the info from...)
	Hope this didn't cause any confusion...

				- Jason

and thanks to those who pointed out the error!

jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu
From: dks@Apple.COM (dk smith)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: CD Changers, Opti-link  (was Re: Sony CD changer RF
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:32:28 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <vincent-091092135943@whe1mac25.berkeley.edu> vincent@garnet (Vincent Lee) writes:
>Somebody says the u300rf or 500 ? whatever are these any good because
>somebody saidf  they are not give me a post. Thanks.


I too am interested in experiences (good or bad) with the Sony CD changers
models 300 and 500. Please post them.


Also, does anybody have any experience with the Pioneer Opti-link system.
Is this basically a digital output from the changer to the head unit containing
the pre-amp section? Do all the other cd changers send the signal in analog
form at normal pre-amp levels? It seems susch a signal would be VERY susceptible
to noise esp. if running the length of a electromagnetically noisy car! Is the
digital transmission of the signal an attempt to address this issue? Does this
"issue" really need to be addressed or is this just another way to convince
people to upgrade and spend more money?

Thanx for your opinions.

-dk

ps: I am not an analog person; be kind...
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: gianos@leland.Stanford.EDU (Edward Alexander Gianos)
Subject: Denon head on the fritz  :(
Summary: head acting up
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 00:26:30 GMT

ACK!
 
I got in my car the other day, and when I turned on my head unit, it didn't
work.  Some random combination of the LCDs lit up, the backlight turned on
fine, and even the amps turn on/off with the power switch.  BUT, it doesn't
do anything.  None of the buttons have any effect, and no sound is made,
not even hiss.  I just get the SAME LCDs lighting up whenever I turn it on.
Also, these do not go out when I turn the power switch off.  They only go
off when I pull the unit.  They don't go on until I turn the unit on.
 
It is a Denon DCR-5270 removable cassette receiver.  I have been taking it
in and out on a regular basis, and the unit is 2-3 years old.  A couple
of times over the past few weeks, I would stick it back in, and it would
have forgotten all the radio presets.  hmmmmmm.  I pulled the unit apart,
and there is a small battery (large watch battery) that is soldered onto
two leads, and I can't get to it.  Might a weak battery inside be the
culprit?  maybe?

Has anyone had something like this happen?  What might the problem be?
Can I fix it myself?  How much might it cost to be fixed?  This really
sucks being without tunes.  
 
Many thanks in advance......
 
Ed Gianos
gianos@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.)
Subject: Re: Subwoofer drivers (10") -- Pioneer, Pyle, Crunch
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 16:15:28 GMT
Keywords: subwoofer woofer speaker driver car audio pioneer pyle crunch


>Sounds good, but I need something that will be happy in a ~0.9 cubic
>foot enclosure.  I think the Kicker may fit this.

Well, the replies have been nearly universally in favor of the
Kicker C-10.  Now my question is, what's a good price for it?
Lowest I have been told is $75, but I don't know where that was
from.

Any mail order places?

Mike
-- 
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From: dsimon@informix.com (Don Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Subwoofer enclosures (was Re: Subwoofer box carpeting!)
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:20:32 GMT
Reply-To: dsimon@informix.com
Organization: Lollitas Land of Lazy-Boys


In article uucp@wupost.wustl.edu, mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.) writes:
>>|> Just got done with my first sub enclosure.  Now, my question is,
>>|> how do you carpet these things?
>
>
>                         27"                              6"
>	    ----------------------------               --------
>	  /            Top               \             |        \*  <- Woofer
>	 ----------------------------------       10.5"|          \*   (front)
>        /             ******               \           |  Side      \
>       /     Front   ********  < Woofer     \	       ---------------
>      /               ******                 \            10"
>      ----------------------------------------         
>                     37"                              
>
>Mike
>-- 
>mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu


I built a very similar box for a Geo Metro convertible, filled up the space behind
the seats very nicely...when I carpeted it, I found that for me, it was best to have
the speaker and gear out of the box...I made rough measurements for material,
cut a rectangle large enough to wrap around the box, from bottom to front to
top to back to bottom, lining up the left edge of my material with the left edge
of the box.  Once I had the piece roughed out, I painted the back of the carpet
with the glue (the rubber-glue kind) and carefully wrapped the box, cutting off any
excess after it was wrapped.  Then I cut out the holes for the speakers and
wire-junctions.  I then covered the sides with pieces I custom cut to fit them, by
leaving a small amount of excess and 'pushing' the edges together (with plenty of glue,
but no so much as it oozed out onto the carpet) I managed to put together a very
nice looking box.


don
Could be wrong, could be right, could be I didn't sleep last night.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: chenh@neptune.ecs.csus.edu (H. Philip Chen)
Subject: Re: Best Amps
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 07:32:06 GMT

max@hal.COM (Harry Max) writes:
:
:	There's been an awful lot of Alpine bashing 
:	lately.  I've been considering a 45 watt per 
:	side Alpine stereo amp for my front speakers,  
:	which are Boston Acoustic Pro 6.2s.
:
:	I already have an Alphasonic PMA 20-35 for 
:	the rear 6x9s.  Any comments or suggestions?

The Alpine amps don't have any moving parts.  
Methinks you'll be pretty safe.  Go for it!



-phil
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: false a/c ducts, or other suggestions?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 00:47:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jsalmi@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi) says:


>a pal of mine back in mpls had a somewhat kickbutt system installed in his
>car.  since he didn't have a removeable headunit, he opted for a pseudo
>a/c vent which snapped over the deck, and looked as stock as the real a/c
>ducts.  
>
>my removeable faceplate gives me some satisfaction, but i'd like to either
>cover or fill the space left by removing the face.  i thought that a fake
>a/c vent would do, but was wondering if any of you guys/gals/people had a
>take on something similar?
>
>it's be nice to pull the faceplate and snap in a flat black filler..

You havn't stated what kind of car you have. 
One thing that works great if the factory radio was flat faced ( DIN )
is to create a fake factory radio faceplate. 

Find a factory radio for the car, usually you can find a broken one at
the junk yard dirt cheap. Then, remove the front face of the radio. Some
screw right off, some you may need to use a hack saw. It should be less
than 1/2" thick now. 

There are several ways to attach it to the "radio innards".
If your radio is the kind where the front flips down to put in the cassette,
you can use an old busted tape, cut it in half, and glue it to the back
of the false face, so it'll just slide into the cassette opening. Or, if it
is a CD player, you can do this also with an old scratched CD. If not, 
you use a small strip of velcro, or something similar.

A blank spot may look suspicious, especially to a professional theif. A 
professional theif knows his car, he'll probably spot the fake airduct.
But, if it looks exactly like the real factory radio, then he may just
move on...

I did this in my Cougar [ had a fully removable thou ], in my father's
Brogham, and my new Topaz. My Topaz and the Broughm have never been
broken into.... yet. Now the Cougar was a high marked car, but thanks
to my Alpine digital pager/alarm, they never got anything ( and I caught
one thief... doing time, doing time :-)


I am suprized that no one makes a false factory radio front....

< sorry for the poor explaination, it's really easier to *show* it, then
  tell it >
< also, excuse the poor typing, I am only using a terminal, and I can't
  do any editing...>

HTH.
-- 
So there I was, snuggled in the leather seat of my brand new Ferreri [sic]
I had the oiled wood gear shift in one hands, and the leather wrapped Momo in
the other. And, I had the stereo cranking _Born to be Wild_...
	Only one problem, I was unside [sic] down, under six feet of water...
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Please unzip me...
Date: 13 Oct 1992 02:12:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort) says:

>  Got my Unzip tools. Thanks.
>
>-- Tim
>

	I'm sorry, 


		I just can't hold back, 


			I simply can't or 


				I'll just explode!




	BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!



	( okay, I think I'm safe now..... )

-- 
	So there I was, snuggled in the leather seat of my brand new Ferreri.
I had the oiled wood gear shift in one hands, and the leather wrapped Momo in
the other. And, I had the stereo cranking _Born to be Wild_...
	Only one problem, I was unside down, under six feet of water...
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: n36ia@pnet16.cts.com (Et3 Francis)
Subject: Re: Tinted Windows
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 09:56:06 GMT

Although tinted windows do look cool on most cars they are not an effective
deterent to thieves. Just because they can't see into the car does not mean
that they will leave the car alone. An alarm is the best bet for avoiding
break-ins. Make sure you put the flashing LED in a visible place so people
will know that you have an alarm and always be sure to turn it on whenever you
leave the car. It only takes a minute to ruin your day. 
                                Brian

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