HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Re: About Dating Outside One's Group....
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:39:07 GMT

drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:


>James,

>prudence dictates that you back off on this one.

>I will skip past my usual posting method and point
>out that there is a lot of unintended irony in your
>kivetch about 'religion.' You might take the time to
>pause and check that you have not gored any of your
>own sacred cows.

An excellent observation, drieux.  The problem is, prudence tends
to fly out the window when matters of religion come up for discussion,
so I doubt your observation will be appreciated, much less heeded!

>When it comes to Core Values, it is prudent NOT to
>go wandering a field in pursuit of 'romance.'

If you are "playing the odds", and basing your opinion on observations
that, in a sizable majority of these cases, it simply doesn't work out,
then I'd have to say "definitely!".  There are, however, a small number 
of cases in which such cross-matched Core Value romances *do* work
out...

>That someone else may have come to a position that they
>hold a set of core values very distinct from your own
>is no reason to go deriding them for advancing that
>they have those core values, and that they are looking
>for those core values in someone they wish to be most
>deeply and intimately involved with.

Hear, hear!

>I may chide my lady friend from time to time, in private
>and on the net, about her failure to understand some
>specific point from my "well just EVERYONE knows" list
>of details. But I would feel safe to say, that when we
>get down to real core values, rather than implementation
>specific details, we do NOT compromise. [1]

Nor should the two of you---the intrinsic definition of a "core value"
would seem to me to require (if not flat-out DEMAND) that no compromises
be made.

>May you be so fortunate, that you are able to come to
>understand YOUR OWN core values, as well as to be able
>to share them with someone special in your life.

This could be the crux of the matter---maybe most of us don't have
a really good fix on our personal core values, so it becomes difficult
to the point of frustration in expressing them to our SO's, with
predictable results:  the short-circuiting and eventual burning-out
of a potentially solid and long-lasting relationship.

What the world needs is a good, inexpensive 300-amp Romantic fuse.

And mandatory installation.  ;-)

...T.R. Stone

 
Xref: sparky soc.singles:34860 alt.conspiracy:13464
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: More Answers to Dating Questions
Date: 28 Dec 1992 13:20:28 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1992Dec28.063919.18677@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>
>A simple Maxim Scott:
>
>"If they don't need to Know,
>They Don't need to GO!"

Is this somehow an attempt at justifying the removal of foreign nationals
from the lavatory facilities?
--scott
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:04:30 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec30.174735.377@julian.uwo.ca> jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>
|	Hmmm. Here's a stupid idea: do American census data
|include information on religious denomination within given
|regions? If moving is an acceptable choice, perhaps consulting
|demographic surveys could be useful in finding a region with
|more elible men.

Coincidently, census data was the focus of a recent article about singles
in the south bay.  You can get a lot of information about the people that
live in specific regions in your area.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Looking for a friend
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:03:06 GMT

In article <1hsuugINNmll@agate.berkeley.edu> jdunbar@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jonathan Dunbar) writes:
>Hi,  I hope that speacial someone gets this.  I`m 26 and just out of college for
>a year now.  I live in the Berkeley area.  I`m looking for someone to spend time
>with and most of all someone I can cuddle and show affection to (some in return please).  I have two cats, but they just can't hug back.  Well, I could post all
>that usuall stuff about how cute I am, and my weight (165lbs). Actually I really
>do keep myself looking trim and squeezable.  I have gotten over my last love
>( 6 months since ) and I'm ready to move on and live again.  I'm into a lot of 
>different things.  I like going out hiking, movies, dancing, and cycling.  I 
>would like so much to hear from women who are looking for a REAL relationship,
>not just a quick fling.  I don't smoke or drink, so if you do, you`ll definately
>find me BOARING.  Oh, I`m 5`11" and a mix of African/Irish/ and Native Crow
>blood.  Yep, I really look remarkable......well in a nice pleasant way.  I`m
>educated in physics and astronomy, but I never lost my humanity or humor.  I do
>wish to hear from you.  So if you are looking and living in the San Fransisco
>area, drop me a line.
>Jonathan
 
Jonathon this is amazing. My neighbors dog is into the exact same things you
are. She is a special dog. She doesn't drink OR smoke. Her # is (708)719-0800.
Good luck and bear lots of fruit.

 
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From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Tell Me Something about Balls
Date: 26 Dec 1992 19:21:01 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Dec23.045819.1873@mtu.edu> rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi) writes:
>  The most torturous thing is a scratch that can't be itched.  Most
>guys skip the sublime (in the Nietzschean sense of the word only)
>pleasure when they have the issue announce itself and scratch in 
>that good ole tribal way.

Some itches are resonance itches.  That is, when you scratch it on one end,
the itch moves to another end of the body.

However, these too can be scratched.  It merely requires simultaneous
scratching on both ends of the itch.  The resonance of the simultaneous
scratching will activate the entire itch pathway thereby leading to its
dissolution of the offending sensation.

So yes, these itches too can be scratched.  But finding both ends of the itch
may take some initial trail and error.
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Is anyone out there like me?
Date: 26 Dec 92 19:42:42 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

sjb@einstein.canterbury.ac.nz (Sutekh) writes:

>my question is,just how much importance do you all put on emotions?
>i personally am cold,with very little desire to experience tenderness or
>intimacy and certainly no desire to have children,with all the emotions that
>are associated(watching parents with children makes me feel ill!)

Some people probably stay that way their whole lives. A lot of people go
through periods of their lives in which they feel the way you do, and they
eventually change, either as a result of time and experience, or as a
result of a specific situation, such as meeting someone they get along with
really well. 

What do you want? Do you want to be in a relationship with someone? If so,
what sort of person do you want, and what sort of relationship do you want?
Do you want to feel that it's OK for you *not* to be looking for a
relationship? (It is.)
-- 
Stef                Just as there are laws of Conservation of Matter and
stef@apple.com      Energy, so there are in fact Laws of Conservation of 
                    Pain and Joy. Neither can ever be created or destroyed.
                         But one can be converted into the other. 
                                                         --Spider Robinson
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women,alt.flame
From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Duck and Jive (was Re
X-To: MR. TICKLE MONSTER
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 01:17:00 GMT

rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster, W. David Rohwer) writes...
>In article <1992Dec18.072101.14111@netcom.com> desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Cham
>agne) writes:
>>
>>In an obvious attempt to provoke more amusement, the Sensitive Beast
>>crossposts an article from soc.men just to make sure that I see it:
>>
>>>     I found this over in soc.men.  Since I do not know if you read soc.men,
>>>I am posting it where I thing that you will see it.
>>
>>       Give it up Creature.  I've already said you bore me.

>     If you are so fucking bored, why the hell are you responding???

>>  Don't
>>even try to fuck with me.
>>

>     I would rather die than fuck you.  I saw you at the party and
>although you are physically pretty, I think that, overall, you are an
>extraordinarily ugly bitch.

....more, and more and more....

>>
>>       The subject is dead.  Leave it there.  Understand?
>>

>     And you lost, bitch.


Please, put each other in your KILL files, *please*.  Dave, while I *can*
sympathise with your anger at the inequities in the system, I consider it
counterproductive for you and Desiree to be wasting bandwidth by blasting
each other.

Wouldn't E-mail be a better place for this?

---
Will Steeves, goid@zooid.guild.org                      "Neil Hull is GOiD"
ZOOiD BBS, Toronto, Ontario - The Zoo Of Ids            "GOiDS Rule"
(416) 322-7876

"Gravity: It's more than just a fragrance.  It's the LAW!"
   - Will Steeves, President, GOiDS "R" We, Inc.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Politically incorrect and proud of it!
From: pnr0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PAUL N. RITTER)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: 30 Dec 92 07:05:49 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1hoasoINNmod@uwm.edu>, markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>>Mark (markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu) wrote:
>>: I think it's time to let you in on a few secrets.  Men don't consider Christ
ie
>>: Brinkley attractive.  One, she's married (last I heard)...
>
>In article <135@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer) writes:
>>What kind of crap is that?
>
>The kind of crap that comes out so smooth that you don't even need to wipe
>afterwards.
>
>>Since when do women become unattractive as soon as they say 'I do'??



>
>For over 3 millenia, since Moses authored the 10 commandments, especially the
>one concerned with finding another's spouse attractive.
>
   Excuse me, but I don't see anything in the 10 Cmdnts. that says I cannot
   find beauty in another man's wife. Now, If I attempt to....---that's
   another story.









   
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles
From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Re: Duck and Jive (was Re: Pre-Sex Contract )
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:04:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.114311.25961@netcom.com> oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:

)In article <1992Dec22.163707.1975@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
)>I lack the specific >data on this - (I'm not sure if it's available.)  
)
)I.e. "I am making this up as I go and it sounds convincing to *me*".

I.e Oleg doesn't know either!  His opinions are, of course, opinions and
to be respected, unlike people who he disagrees with, whose opinions are
'just making it up' (the nerve!).

(yeah, this is just a flame, but our site doesn't get alt.flame.)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
Date: 20 Dec 92 06:44:12 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <kDYKrAbEBh106h@wildrose.infoserv.com> wildrose!rkf@infoserv.com writes:
>
>That became a useful rule-of-thumb for me...if I ask, I'm prepared to
>pay.  

So do I. (btw - I'm a woman ;)

-jen
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: SF ISO S*M
Date: 29 Dec 92 03:08:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <1992Dec28.191904.13752@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>In article <ljug3aINN9ep@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>>In article <75896@apple.apple.COM>, pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh) writes:
>>> 
>>> You're right, Aahz -- shall we try climbing rope at 40 paces
>>> in a.s.b.?  Or winter-issue handcuffs at Dawn?  (Sorry, Dawn.)
>>
>>Don't apologize.  Just let me know when you and Aahz are showing up so
>>I can get my chains polished and oiled.
>
>Just to set the record straight, I'm not letting those chains get used
>on me.

Well one should hope not. Everyone who knows you expects
you will keep them nice and shiny and new so that when
you're, uh, done with them they can be re-retailed as
low-mileage pre-owned chains. (Or am I missing the
distinction between using the chains and using the
handcuffs attached to the chains?)

paul more than slightly inquiring
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:57:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.062849.4378@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.014850.11707@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith) writes:
>>News Flash - Women are PEOPLE, not just potential mates or partners.
>Why Julia, you sound just like the only real, unchanging difference
>between women and men is the plumbing.
>
>;>
>
>-jen

so THAT'S it!!!
damn, I KNEW there was something!!!
thanks!!!

-bacon
I'll get serious when hell freezes over. Til then, who cares?
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.peeves
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: NeoLogisms
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:57:10 GMT

cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington) writes:
] In article <c*51Hx=7fb@atlantis.psu.edu> R9S@ECL.PSU.EDU (Roberto G Sung) writes:
] 
] >just a quick question: what exactly means
] >"serendipity". i've seen this word a few times lately. is it part of
] >the neology? thanks
] 
] "Serendipity" refers to happy outcomes that occur by accident.
] Webster's New International Dictionary (3rd edition, 1961) says " an
] assumed gift for finding valuable or agreeable things not sought for".
] The term comes from a Persian tale "The Three Princes of Serendip"
] which happy outcomes keep happening by accident. It's NOT a neologism.


Albeit that Chris's research is CORRECT,
this does NOT change the fact that 'serendipity'
as a BuzzPhrase of the Proto_Neo_New_Age_Pop_Psychology
is not a NeoLogism, encumbant upon it with all the 
horrid implications that it may well be one of the preliminary
symptoms of a 'multi_phasic_personality_disorder.'

That there are those out there who have been using
this NeoLogism for varying amounts of time does NOT
bring the term within the realm of RealEnglish[tm] terms.


ciao
drieux

ObPeeve: Victims of Proto_Neo_New_Age_Pop_Psychology
who are still in denial about thier problem.


-- 
Modern Day Problems:

This is Not a .sigfile addendum to the Post.
You are just reading beyond the edge.
From: cocoa@netcom.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Most expensive meal of my life (was: Re: Picking up the Tab)
Date: 23 Dec 92 02:22:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: none at all!


In article <JMD.92Dec17130801@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec17.072709.545@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:
>
>   Our return trip was made in haste, and I somehow managed to end up with the
>   charge card receipt for dinner.  It was a grand total of $250, including tip.
>   If I'd know how much dinner was going to cost, I probably would never have
>   accepted.  And If I'd seen the bill after dinner, I would have felt horribly
>   guily at having eaten $150 dollars-worth of food while poor children starve
>   in africa.  But finding out weeks later, just makes it a special experience,
>   and a great memory.
>
>You must not spend much time in NYC -- it's very easy to spend $250 on
>dinner, even in a second line restaurant.  As an example to the top
>rung, you can go to Petrossian and lay down $40 a person for the basic
>meal, $90 for a wine fitting the quality of the meal, $150 for the
>appetizer of 14oz of beluga caviar or a chunk of foie gras, and of
>course the $100 bottle of champagne which you selected to drink while
>eating the caviar...  Adds up to a $420 dinner for two!  And don't
>forget the tip if you ever want to get a reservation there again...

I didn't see the prices for the meal, but I helped pick the wine so I knew
what that cost.  Funny thing was though, that I'd stopped off in Chicago
on my way from California and picked up two bottles of delicious German
wine for about $75 and they were better than what the restaurant had.  We
had one bottle as a late night desert that evening (as my thankyou and treat).

>And why feel guilty about $150?  After all, you're not really getting
>$150 worth of food.  The $150 goes towards food as well as beverages,
>service (all 3 waiters), rent, chef and cooking staff.  All have to be
>paid...
>
>After all, we all need to pamper ourselves once in a while...

Yes, but I grew up in a large and poor family where $150 dollars fed several
people for a month or so.  Spending money on luxuries is a guilt thing for me.

>   (And I didn't even *have* to have sex with him :)
>
>Wow!  But did you? ;-)

Well, JD and I were turning around the idea in our heads about a long-distance
relationship (SF/NYC), and it didn't seem like it would work, so it seemed best
to keep things at the friend level.

I spent many more months being single and lonely.  JD met a beautiful model
named Katie a few months later and fell in love.

So there goes my chance at marrying a wealthy doctor. <sigh> :)

Just me,

little 'e'

(yes, the story is really true!)

-- 
*  *  *    Chocolatier at Arms, and Castle Wetware Liason            *  *  *
*  *  *    e-mail: cocoa@netcom.com   -    voicemail: 415-337-4940   *  *  *
Xref: sparky soc.singles:35059 alt.romance:15558 alt.romance.chat:22519 soc.penpals:4951
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat,soc.penpals
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:15:47 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <stone.725749946@cwis> stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone) writes:
|
|The one *I* use alot is:
|
|"Grab that other end, would you?  Great.  Now, we'll lift on the
|count of three---ready?  One...Two...."

That's almost as good as walking up a woman, extending your index finger,
say "pull my finger", make a little grimace when she does, then smile and 
walk to the other side of the room.  Best done when the music is loud.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,misc.legal,alt.abortion.inequity
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Choice For Men != Not Wanting Children (was: Pre-Sex Contract)
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 07:06:41 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed
Followup-To: alt.abortion.inequity

In <1993Jan3.012235.21759@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>
>Believe me, so did I.  And at eight weeks, they can also feel pain, as I
>have heard.  Believe me, I will *never* forget this fact...

You've also heard that that's nonsense.  You believe what you choose to believe.
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles
From: desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne)
Subject: The Never Ending Circle (was Re: Duck and Jive (was Re
Followup-To: alt.flame,alt.anything.else.but.here
Summary: 60 Minutes is Boring This Evening
Organization: Mom's Against Dad's
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 03:18:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.011809.17271@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves 
<goid@zooid.guild.org> writes in response to Kenn Barry's old article
about child support and financial responsibility:

[entire article deleted -- it's all been said before {and much better
I will add}]

	Okay Goidy, you made your point.  Now, rather than rehashing
an old tired thread that thankfully died out a couple of weeks ago,
will you just go play somewhere else?


Tag,

Desiree
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:11:10 GMT

jsp@pls.amdahl.com replies to Keith Smith:
>The way you put it, with that "hasta la vista, baby" line, *you* made
>it sound like an ultimatum.  I mean, you made it about as plain as can
>be that if the woman isn't willing to treat you to the *second* date,
>then you don't want to see her again.  If that isn't an ultimatum,
>what is it?

Simple.  It's only an ultimatum if explicitly stated.  If the woman has
no idea that a second date depends on her response to the "suggestion"
of her treating the next one, then it becomes a selection criterion.

It's very similar to other selection criterion that are commonly used.
For example, personally, a woman either has to have a compatible sense of
humour to mine, or I will not pursue a relationship.  But I don't say "you
have to laugh at my jokes or else there will be no second date."

-- 
Ron Wessels		University of Toronto		ron@turing.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Women, Cats, & Chocolate
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:04:38 GMT

In article <21DEC199211532244@acad3.alaska.edu> ftlao@acad3.alaska.edu (OSSANDER LINDA A) writes:
>Gee you could have fooled me..
>
>NOW!!! You listen to me and let me make myself perfectly clear..
>I am a single and I WAS NOT flaming anyone! I was simply responding to what
>someone else wrote to me.  If you do not like it then that is your problem,
>Do I make myself perfectly clear??
>
>As for being a dumb  broad..I think perhaps you are a real PRIZE..And you do
>need to learn  a few manners! If you wanna take this any further you have my
>e-mail address cause I should like to tell you a thing or two.
>So please KNOCK OF THE CRAP!!!!!!

*MMMMRAOW!!!*
*SLASH!*

>Merry Christmas everyone...
>                            -Linda-

you too. :)

-bacon
single, less miserable, world-traveler-wannabe, and still not serious