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From: gwilson@p1.f230.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (George Wilson)
Subject: DE
Originator: bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:24:35 GMT


Reply from FIdonet HIGH-ED echo:

 From : Terrence Redding            1:385/18                12 Nov 92  09:35:02

 > --"...I would learn everything I could about this
G> medium[television] because some of the greatest problems facing
G> higher education can't be solved by any other way than by the
G> creative use of technology."  (DE expert interview response,

The future is here.  In Europe they are selling a new family of
computers called the Falcon that is currently capable of doing all the
things listed above.  Additionally it has the ability of doing
real-time digital sound and graphics manipulation in above CD quality
and true color.

The Falcon is a multi-tasking system that could be concurrently used
to answer the door, phone, present telecommunication video and digital
voice while serving as a fully automated FAX system.  With the digital
voice and graphics the owners voice and image can be stored and used
for the automated functions.

The implications for DE and telecommunications based college and
continuing education courses are staggering.  The most amazing feature
of the Falcon is that it is complete.  No add-ons or plug-ins needed.
With built-in digital signal processing and graphics, over 31
auto-select graphics modes, including true color, VGA, SVGA, and
interlace modes, the future is here.  More amazing yet is the price.
$799.00 US.

For institutions the impact is on strategic planning.  The high
bandwidth needs of interactive video means fiber optic cabling is
essential.  Wire based telecommunication infrastructure will not be
able to support the immediate future of telecommunications.

For educators the impact will be in gaining the necessary knowledge
and experiences to accomodate the explosion in technology our
discipline will require of us.  The September 1991 issue of Scientific
American is an excellent primer for educators new to these concepts,
or those simply not up to date.  Regards, Terry.


--- The Ancient Institute Post Office
 * Origin:  The Ancient Institute (1:3603/230.1)
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Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: Tony Bates <tonyb@ola.bc.ca>
Subject: The case of the missing moderator
Originator: banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:42:37 GMT

A week into this conference, I rhad received 800 messages. This
exceeded my disc space on our E-mail system, and consequently
the whole system went down. Our computer department were not too
pleased with me, but have been very helpful in getting me back
on line. Unfortunately, though, by the time they were able to
do this, I had left Canada for two weeks, one of them being spent
at the ICDE conference in Bangkok. I now have a backlog of over
1000 messages to sort out! However, wherever possible, I will
try to answer all e-mail (as distinct from conference) messages.

I am very grateful to Lani Gunawardeena for stepping in and
keeping things going. I haven't been through all the messages
yet, but she told me that it all went very well, despite (or
probably because of) my absence. There is probably an important
lesson for moderators in this experience!

Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: "Daniel V. Eastmond" <eastmond@suvm.bitnet>
Subject:      Evaluation Responses
Originator: banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:23:31 GMT

I just sent a number of messages about evaluation of the Planning
conference to this listserve from AEDNET.  These were meant for Tony
Bates personal reference and not for general distribution!

Thanks-- Dan

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              ||         Daniel V. Eastmond          ||
              ||         eastmond@suvm.acs.syr.edu   ||
              ||         TEL:  315/443-3421          ||
              ||         Syracuse University         ||
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Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: harasim@sfu.ca
Subject: Re: Evaluation
Originator: banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:57:46 GMT

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This message was  originally submitted by harasim@SFU.CA to the  AEDNET list at
SUVM. If you  simply forward it back  to the list, it will  be distributed with
the paragraph you are now reading  being automatically removed. If you edit the
contributions you receive into a digest, you will need to remove this paragraph
before mailing the  results to the list. Finally, if  you need more information
from the author of this message, you should be able to do so by simply replying
to this note.

----------------- Message requiring your approval (26 lines) ------------------
Hi Tony:

Thanks for your 'evaluation' request.

In response, I was a) lurking.

I had actually wanted to participate, but felt that since I wasn't
working in a distance ed institution and since I had more generic
adoption of online technology concerns, that I might be too off topic.

So, I just watched and listened and learned.

I have few observations on the process.  I thought that you did very
well in focussing the discussion and in providing good content that
was thought provoking.

Perhaps the use of multiple threads/topics over email made the
entire seminar series seem abit disjointed and undermine the potential
synergy.  But on the other hand, the Internet access enabled broad
reach.

Tradeoffs between a cc and an email system.

Take care,
Your fan!
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: "Margaret E. Holt" <mholt@uga.bitnet>
Subject:      Re: Evaluation
Originator: banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:26:13 GMT

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This message was originally submitted by  MHOLT@UGA to the AEDNET list at SUVM.
If you  simply forward it  back to  the list, it  will be distributed  with the
paragraph you  are now  reading being  automatically removed.  If you  edit the
contributions you receive into a digest, you will need to remove this paragraph
before mailing the  results to the list. Finally, if  you need more information
from the author of this message, you should be able to do so by simply replying
to this note.

------------------ Message requiring your approval (7 lines) ------------------
I love lurking, and I have been lurking all through the conference.  The
information has been invaluable as I am working with a group of three very
dynamic students in my department on a distance-education proposal.  So
many thanks for the great opportunity to lurk.  I didn't lurk because I'm
shy.  Issues that I thought important were raised eloquently by many others.
  Again, my appreciation to all the people who worked hard to make this happen.
Margaret Holt, Adult Education, University of Georgia
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: "Patricia M. Dyer" <USERDYER@UBCMTSG.BITNET>
Subject:  Evaluation
Originator: banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:44:09 GMT

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This message was originally submitted by USERDYER@UBCMTSG to the AEDNET list at
SUVM. If you  simply forward it back  to the list, it will  be distributed with
the paragraph you are now reading  being automatically removed. If you edit the
contributions you receive into a digest, you will need to remove this paragraph
before mailing the  results to the list. Finally, if  you need more information
from the author of this message, you should be able to do so by simply replying
to this note.

------------------ Message requiring your approval (3 lines) ------------------
I was a lurker and quite enjoyed the experience although I ddidn't have any real
 interest in distance ed. I also passed on some of the comments to other student
s here at UBC who have not yet successsfully connected with AEDNET. Thank you.
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: Jim Pollicita <pollicit@miamiu.bitnet>
Subject:      Re: Evaluation
Originator: banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:51:43 GMT

Tony - This and the other evaluation comments from AEDNET are for your
information and not to be broadcast over the network!  Dan
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This message was originally submitted by  POLLICIT@MIAMIU to the AEDNET list at
SUVM. If you  simply forward it back  to the list, it will  be distributed with
the paragraph you are now reading  being automatically removed. If you edit the
contributions you receive into a digest, you will need to remove this paragraph
before mailing the  results to the list. Finally, if  you need more information
from the author of this message, you should be able to do so by simply replying
to this note.

----------------- Message requiring your approval (29 lines) ------------------
Dan ...
I have been among the "lurkers" for the Bangkok Conference.  (Sounds like
an admission of guilt!)  Since I am not involved in distance education and
really have no background in the area, I "lurked" simply to browse and
glean.

For what it's worth (and not necessarily for distribution), I found some
of the discussion about "what is theory," etc., reminiscent of the sort of
intellectual "play-fighting" which is, perhaps, an essential component of
a challenging graduate degree experience, but begins quickly to seem overly
self-indulgent and irrelevant to those of us who are too often immersed in
more concrete planning and operational issues.

Such discussions are not "bad," but I DO find myself increasingly agreeing with
the curmudgeonly and worn continuing education programmers and administra-
tors who were so irritating to me during my doctoral work ... They would
allow me my angst about what constituted theory, or whether adult/continuing
education was a "profession," ... whatever, then they would return to the
far less pleasant, but essential work of creating a way to support graduate
students as university budgets dwindled.

Ah, well, a cynic is, after all, just a romantic who has been around for
awhile.   Oo-bla-dee, Oo-bla-da ......


     James R. Pollicita                        Telephone: 513-529-1700
     Director of Continuing Education                FAX: 513-529-3841
     Miami University                        Bitnet: POLLICIT @ MIAMIU
     Oxford, Ohio 45056     Internet: POLLICIT @ MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: Tony Bates <tonyb@ola.bc.ca>
Subject: Evaluation
Originator: banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:31:03 GMT

To help in the evaluation of the STRATEGIC PLANNING conference, I would
be grateful if you could send me an e-mail if

	a.	you were 'lurking' and have not already identified
		yourself

	b.	if you were lurking or particpating, and would like
		to comment on the success or otherwise of the conference.

You may like to know that so far I have identified 36 participants or
lurkers. Of these 22 are in USA, 5 each in Canada and Australia, and
one in Mexicao and one in Norway.

Thanks to all of you who particpated!

		Tony Bates

Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: @acs.ucalgary.ca, red!terry@uunet.UU.NET (Terrence R. Redding)
Subject: Re: Evaluation
Originator: banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:25:56 GMT

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This message was  originally submitted by red!terry@UUNET.UU.NET  to the AEDNET
list at SUVM. If you simply forward it back to the list, it will be distributed
with the paragraph you are now reading being automatically removed. If you edit
the  contributions you  receive into  a digest,  you will  need to  remove this
paragraph before  mailing the results  to the list.  Finally, if you  need more
information from  the author of this  message, you should  be able to do  so by
simply replying to this note.

----------------- Message requiring your approval (38 lines) ------------------
In <m0mrvA1-000RA9C@seas.smu.edu>, you write:
>You might help Tony out and let us AEDNET moderators know how you enjoyed
>(or are enjoying the tail end of) the Bangkok Conference.  Dan :-D
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>To help in the evaluation of the STRATEGIC PLANNING conference, I would
>be grateful if you could send me an e-mail if
>
>        a.      you were 'lurking' and have not already identified
>                yourself
>
>        b.      if you were lurking or particpating, and would like
>                to comment on the success or otherwise of the conference.
>
>You may like to know that so far I have identified 36 participants or
>lurkers. Of these 22 are in USA, 5 each in Canada and Australia, and
>one in Mexicao and one in Norway.

Tony I thoroughly enjoyed it.  For the most part I was a lurker.  I read every
message both on the uucp AEDNET and the FIDO Higher Education echo.  Very
informative and I am sure overwhelming for many in addition to myself.

Concurrent to the Bangkok Conference was a discussion of Page Smith's book
KILLING THE SPIRIT.  Participation in the discussion was virtually non-existant.
I assume that was because most readers were overwhelmed by the volumn of
traffic associated with the Bangkok Conference.

As the guest moderator for the book review discussion I must say that I think
the Bangkok Conference was a worth while interruption and I value it highly.

Regards, Terry.
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Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.databases
From: Leigh Calnek <leigh@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA>
Subject: Re: Electronic Publishing
Originator: bandb-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <bandb-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 09:00:14 GMT

Well, this is not "electronic publishing", but it is an idea
that I have implemented on the system here for supporting
users who take courses through UNIBASE.  Understand that the
number of courses is quite small, and the process is
intended to illustrate how we can use technology to support
distance learners.  Providing additional course support
materials remains as one of the major obstacles to being
really able to provide a quality experience for remote
learners, especially if they are way off in the "boonies".

I have established a "distance education course delivery
system" which operates across a tcp/ip or uucp network.  It
provides the participants with a discussion, private journal
and library collection related to the course being
delivered.  Generally, the library collection contains
journal artilces which have been selected by the instructor
and copyright cleared for the purpose of the course.
Currently, each article that is to be carried in the library
must be manually re-keyed...but with a fast operator that is
not really a problem.  While some publishers have declined
to let us use articles in this manner, others have been
co-operative.  Using this process, we have been able to make
a significant number of articles available to support a
course.  The greatest problem is the necessary lead time
required to get permission and get the articles ready,
on-line and distributed to the various network sites.  This
latter is done automatically as we use news for
distribution.  We do have extensive indexing capability
which permits us to create a keyword based bibliographical
index on the articles.  We can also do full text indexing on
the large articles which permit keyword seaches within the
document.  These latter two features are currently not
distributed, but require participants to connect to the main
host.  The major determining factor on the distribution of
these two features currently is cost.  What I almost have in
place is the ability for the remote network sites to
establish a dynamic slip connection to the resource, and
disconnect once the resource is no longer in use.  The
connection and disconnection are transparent to the user.  I
have the slip connections being made through the x.25
network at 9600 baud so the response for the network users
is quite acceptable, and also permits more than one
participant to be using the link at the same time.

That is a brief outline of my system here and represents one
idea on how to provide resources for distant learners.


-- 

Leigh Calnek
Internet: leigh@unibase.unibase.sk.ca
voice: 306/789-9007
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
From: soma@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Somasundar Krothapalli)
Subject: need info in accounting courses
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:00:48 GMT
From: gavin@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Gavin K. Longmuir)
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance,alt.planning.urban
Subject: demographic mailing list
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:55:24 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
Reply-To: gavin@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Gavin Longmuir)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.12
Organisation: Research School of Social Sciences, Australian National University


Hi all!

Sometime ago I asked a question in many of the network newsgroups,
about the lack of a sci.demography newsgroup. I received a luke warm
response about creating such a newsgroup.

Anyway to cut a long story short, I'm announcing the formation of a
demographic mailing list. It is to be open to all, and have no
censorship.

The charter of the demographic-list mailing list follows:


This mailing list is concerned with the discussion of Demography,
and Demographic Techniques.

According to the United Nations Multilingual Demographic Distionary,
 'Demography is the scientific study of human populations, primary
  with respect to their size, their structure and their development'.

It is not just to be a forum for discussion and intellectual fray, but
also a market-place for new ideas.

This mailing list is supported by the:
	Computing Personal,
	Demography Program, Demography and Sociology Division,
	Research School of Social Sciences,
	Australian National University.


To join the mailing list just mail the following two lines to
majordomo@sorokin.anu.edu.au

subscribe demographic-list
end

From then on all mail sent to demographic-list@sorokin.anu.edu.au
will be reposted to all members subscribed to the list. Users can
also easly unsubscribe from the mailing list at anytime.


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    *    *               Demography Program, Research School of Social Sciences
       *                    Australian National University, Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Voice: +61 6 249 0530  FAX: +61 6 257 1893  InterNet: Gavin.Longmuir@anu.edu.au       *      UUCP: {uunet,ubc-vision,ukc,prlb2}!munnari!coombs.anu.edu.au!gavin
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
From: soma@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Somasundar Krothapalli)
Subject: need info on accounting courses
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:23:56 GMT



I am interested in doing some correspondence courses in accounting.
Could some one send me the names of colleges-universities who offer
such courses. Info on it will be highly appreciated. Thanking you
in advance.

lakshmi
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
From: apdolan@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (dolan andrew)
Subject: POSITION WANTED/MARKETING SPECIALIST/CANADA
Summary: POSITION WANTED/MARKETING SPECIALIST/CANADA
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:08:01 GMT
Keywords: POSITION WANTED/MARKETING SPECIALIST/CANADA


i/ANDREW DOLAN
P.O. Box 2232
Champaign, Illinois  61825-2232  U.S.A. 
E-mail:  apdolan@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

OBJECTIVE
A Marketing Specialist position. 
Available: January, 1993.

EDUCATION

1991-1992
COLLEGE OF EDUCATION
UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS/CHAMPAIGN, ILLINOIS 
Candidate for Master of Education degree. 
Concentration in Continuing Education.  
Degree requirements completed in December, 1992. 
* HONORS:  Tuition Waiver Scholarship.
* GRADUATE SCHOOL PAPERS AND PRESENTATIONS:
* Marketing Plan for Correspondence Studies at the 
University of Illinois
* Tech Prep Conference Program Plan
* Instructional Design for a 
Proposed Non-Credit Marketing Course
* SELECTED COURSES:
* Distance Learning and Technology
* Continuing Education 
Program Development
* Adult Learning and Development
* Instructional Design
* Training Programs in Industry

1979-1981
J.L. KELLOGG GRADUATE SCHOOL 
OF MANAGEMENT
NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY
/EVANSTON, ILLINOIS 
Master of Management (MBA) degree in June, 1981. 
Concentrations in Marketing and Policy & Environment.

1972-1976
STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK 
/ALBANY,NEW YORK 
Bachelor of Arts degree, cum laude,  in  May, 1976. 
Major in Psychology. 
* HONORS:   Dean's List. New York State Regents Scholarship. 
Who's Who Among Students in American Universities and Colleges.

1971-1972
CITY COLLEGE OF NEW YORK
/NEW YORK, NEW YORK

WORK EXPERIENCE
1981-1991
COLLEGE SALES PROMOTIONS
/EVANSTON, ILLINOIS
Proprietor/Self-employed.

Summer 1980
RICHARDSON COMPANY/GRAPHICS DIVISION
/ORLAND PARK, ILLINOIS
Marketing Assistant/Summer Intern.

June 1980
MARKET FACTS, INC,/
EVANSTON, ILLINOIS
Telephone Interviewer.

1979
UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE
/ALBANY, NEW YORK
Distribution Clerk.

1978
SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
/QUEENS,NEW YORK
Claims Authorizer.

1976-1977
UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE
/ALBANY, NEW YORK
 Distribution Clerk.
From: cs108069@pandora.sdsu.edu (John DeRose)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Caller ID Devices
Date: 22 Nov 1992 19:55:02 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: pandora.sdsu.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Supra manufactures a few modems that have a Caller-ID option...
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Phone line current and voltage
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:06:20 GMT

I should probably look for a FAQ list on this one but...

To settle an argument in the lab, what is the standard telephone
line current and voltage?  

As not to waste bandwidth, email and I will summarize the results.

Thanks!  

Eric E. Snyder                            
Department of MCD Biology          
University of Colorado, Boulder    
Boulder, Colorado 80309-0347