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From: erik@peewee.nwc.navy.mil (Erik van Bronkhorst       Code 3814                               Phone 939-1421)
Subject: Re: showing working dirs of each users
Organization: NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV, China Lake
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:06:55 GMT

In article <78677@hydra.gatech.EDU> glenns@eas.gatech.edu writes:
>In <1992Dec21.082746.23803@latcs1.lat.oz.au> wongm@latcs1.lat.oz.au (M.C. Wong) writes:
>>  I wonder if there is any utility that shows which working dir each
>>  of the users are in, much like the finger and w command but also shows
>>  where they are. Thank you !!
>
>Not that I know of; I do know that it would be a royal pain to do (probably
>involving C and setuid executables) on a SysV box... but if you luck out
>and have BSD or some variant thereof, you can probably cobble something
>together in a shell script, starting like 
>
>ps agxeww | egrep -e [ -][t-][ck]sh | awk {some really funky stuff here}
>

Miracle of miracles!  I had never heard of the "eww" options to ps!
On my Sun (4.1.1) this seems to work as long as the user in question
is doing something other than just sitting there logged in.  Try as
I might, I could not get the -csh entry to show a PWD.  I suspect that
since it is = to HOME at login, it is not retained.  (yes, I WAS
in another dir when I tried it on myself).

 #
users=`who | field 1`
for user in $users ; do
  echo $user
  ps aueww | grep "USER=$user" | grep PWD | sed 's/^.*PWD=\([^ ]*\).*$/\1/' | sort -u
done

Crude but I never bothered to decipher awk.....
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From: mikeg@asylum.tmc.edu (Michael Grabenstein)
Subject: reminder script
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:05:03 GMT

	Ok, I need an easy little program that I can get cron
to run that will remind me when to do various things. (Ie. change
the tapes in the system X, go get pay check, etc...) I could
write this, but I figure someone has already done it, so rather
than re-inventing the wheel... Anyone have such a nifty script?
It can be a csh, ksh, or sh script, or even a 'c' program.

	please e-mail, and if anyone wants such an utility
just mail me :-)

Thanks,
	Mike
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From: jlu@cs.umr.edu ( Eric Jui-Lin Lu )
Subject: Help wanted: How to restrict users to use Pnews ...
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:34:35 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

Hi *,

I posted this question to news.sysadmin, but got no response so
far.  So, please no flame if this is the wrong group to post.

We're running trn 2.2 and nntp 1.5.11.  And we wish to know
if there is a way, embedded in trn or inews, to restrict the users
to post articles to certain/all newsgroups?

Thanks!!

  --Eric

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From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: showing working dirs of each users
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:22:49 GMT
Reply-To: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine

In article <78677@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gs26@prism.gatech.EDU (Glenn R. Stone) writes:
- In <1992Dec21.082746.23803@latcs1.lat.oz.au> wongm@latcs1.lat.oz.au (M.C. Wong) writes:
- >  I wonder if there is any utility that shows which working dir each
- >  of the users are in, much like the finger and w command but also shows
- >  where they are. Thank you !!
....
- ps agxeww | egrep -e [ -][t-][ck]sh | awk {some really funky stuff here}
- 
- Where the above assumes nobody's running /bin/sh for a login shell, 
- and {some really funky stuff} extracts the PWD= field from the output
- of ps....

The real challenge is defining what the "user" is. If you want to find out
because you want to check whether you can unmount a file system, you have to
consider processes (shells at the very least), which do nothing but wait
for their children.

If your users have X-terminals (or workstations ...) you also have to decide
which of the active processes for a user are relevant.

If you want to find out where your users are doing what they are actually
doing, you have to work out what is actually being done. If I watch the system
performance monitor for a few minutes between reading news items (which I
sometimes do ...) you would have to detect my eye movements before you could
work out my "working" directory.

                                    Thomas

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From: serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Piero Serini)
Subject: Re: How to move a filesytem?
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:00:33 GMT

subbarao@fc.hp.com (Kartik Subbarao) writes:

>># tar cf - . | compress | (cd /usr2 ; uncompress | tar xf - )
>>
>>this will be quite long ...

>Of course it will, if you put compress and uncompress there. Why do that?

You are right. No Excuse.

>	-Kartik
Piero
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From: amdunn@mongrel.UUCP (Andrew M. Dunn)
Subject: Re: Horror Stories UNIX Admin!
Organization: A. Dunn Systems Corporation, Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 14:53:10 GMT

In article <BzqF81.7EH@trc.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv67.hou.amoco.com (CJohn Mace) writes:
>
>its ok to post the stories.  :-)
>
>if someone wants to complain about the size costing them money, then they
>should probably buy a faster modem...

Well, excuuuuuse me.

I guess AMOCO provides your modem, and pays for a faster one.  The rest
of the world isn't so lucky that they can use their employer's cash to
pay for their NetNews reading.



Andy

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From: cq377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David C. Williss)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: lp vs lpr
Date: 4 Jan 1993 03:08:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cq377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David C. Williss)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I have a problem which I can't seem to make work.  I have a printer
on one machine which is running SYSV (with lp for printing).  I
also have a sun running BSD (lpr for printing).  My problem is that
I can't seem to make the Sun talk to the SYSV system.  I think that
the problem is on the SYSV end, because I _had_ the printer on an
IBM RS6000 which also uses "lp".  However, it had a nifty gui interface
for setting it all up.  The new SYSV machine also has a gui interface
to set it up, but doesn't seem to allow me to control other machine's
ability to connect to the printer.  It'll let me connect to remote
printers, but not all others to connect to its printer.  I quickly
gave up and looked at the manual, but it only told how to use the gui.

I tried man pages, but no luck.  I found an "accept" command which
looks like it should do what I need, but the BSD system still can't
print.  It says that it's "waiting for jolt to come up" or some
such thing (yes, I can "ping" it, I can telnet to it. It's there.)

Anybody got a clue what I might be doing wrong?

	-Dave

PS:  Oh, specifics.  The Printer is on an SGI Iris running IRIX.
The Other machine is a Sun IPX.

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From: wilko@russia.idca.tds.philips.nl (Wilko Bulte)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: Preventing root login except on console
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:39:12 GMT

I don't know about the IRIX V.4, but in the V.3 I've seen you can 
set this in /etc/default/boot. Look for a line 'CONSOLE=...', setting
this line to the real console only prevents root logins on any other
line

Wilko

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From: shm@syl.syl.nj.nec.com (Shailendra Majmundar)
Subject: Help: System panics while cpio
Reply-To: shm@syl.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 15:43:26 GMT

I have an IBM clone 386/20 running AT&T Unix 5.3.2. The box has 160 MG
unix partition on the ESDI disk and a WD controller. Things work
okay until I do a heavy cpio (such as installing a network software
or copying a 10 mg dir tree), when the system halts with the message:

System Error:	Controller Stays Busy
		Panic: dumping 1952 pages

Can any one provide me a pointer as to what might be cooking? 

Many thanks in advance,
- Sam (shm@syl.nj.nec.com)
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: How to write a "turnin" utility??
Date: 29 Dec 1992 15:32:51 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov

In article <C010F5.9D6@news.iastate.edu> john@iastate.edu (John Hascall) writes:
>
>others are no doubt possible.  Actually, given the known horrors of setuid
>scripts it should really be a program (or god forbid, Perl, the APL of scripts)
>to be safe.

Why bother?  There is already a facility designed for transferring large
amounts of text from one user to another in a secure manner.  It's called
mail.  You can rig up a mail alias that pipes the mail message into a script,
sorts it by user and saves it in a directory by user.subject.  Then just have
the students mail their programs to that user.  You could even be smart and
have it reject all messages that aren't from a particular list of users and
subjects.
--scott
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From: dan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Danilo Silva)
Subject: Re: How to write a "turnin" utility??
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:21:16 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <0291H&pdqb@atlantis.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
>... stuff deleted

>	That's the first time I've ever heard someone call email "secure".
>Evidently our definitions of "secure" differ.
>
>	A mail solution can be trivially spoofed.
>
>--Dave
>-- 
>System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
>A .sig quote is like a summer job, okay for a few months but not much more.

What do you mean by e-mail being trivially spoofed??

Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I'm trying to learn as much as I can .

Thanks,

Dan Silva
dan@lamar.colostate.edu
From: pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Program to generate encrypted version of password?
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:33:28 GMT
Organization: Totally Unorganized

In article <1992Dec31.000203.1031@vpbuild.vp.com> jessea@u013.me.vp.com (Jesse W. Asher) writes:
>At one time I played with a program that would take a password (and
>maybe the salt) and encrypt the password just like to would go into the
>passwd file.  Does anyone know the name of the program?  I need to
>generate an encrypted version of the password without it being in the
>passwd file itself.  Thanks.

I think the program you have in mind is /usr/lib/makekey.  It takes a
10 char string (8 chars of plaintext password, space filled, to 8 chars
if the password is less than 8 chars, plus a 2 character salt tacked on
as chars 9 and 10) on stdin, and spits out the encrypted form on stdout.
To match a word in the passwd file, for example, one would enter the
plaintext word, the 2 chars of salt (the first 2 chars of the data in
the password field of the passwd file), and then compare the output with
what is in the password file.  If the two match, you have entered the
correct password.

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From: cobrin.sbd-e@rx.xerox.com (Steve Cobrin)
Subject: Re: How to move a filesytem?
Reply-To: cobrin.sbd-e@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox, Welwyn Garden City, UK
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:10:23 GMT


In article 20071@ghost.dsi.unimi.it,  serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Piero Serini) writes:
>subbarao@fc.hp.com (Kartik Subbarao) writes:
>
>>># tar cf - . | compress | (cd /usr2 ; uncompress | tar xf - )
>>>
>>>this will be quite long ...
>
>>Of course it will, if you put compress and uncompress there. Why do that?
>
>You are right. No Excuse.
>
>>	-Kartik
>Piero


compression is really best used if there's some transfer across a network 
involved, eg.

host0# rsh host1 "cd /dir0; tar cf - dir | compress" | \
rsh host2 "cd /dir1; uncompress | tar xpfB -"

which copies directory host1:/dir0/dir to host2:/dir1/dir from a trusted host host0

the compression can substantially reduce the elepsed time of the transfer

Regards
	Steve
From: ehwd@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (Eric Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: diskless clients
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:34:01 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester

Hi and happy holidays all. 

Has anyone had any problems setting up diskless clients? Am I 
missing something? 

What I've done is run add_client for an IPC client running
off an IPX server. I run it interactively, and have had
to set up the root and swap locations in a non-standard 
position (ie not in /export/root and /export/swap). When
I finish using the setup it prints stuff to the screen, 
and then says that "path-to-client"/root/dev does not exist
and a cd to this directory fails. At which point it halts.

Now, the only way "path-to-client"/root/dev is going to 
exist is for the add_client routine to set it up, so I
don't understand the error. 

If you have seen this, let me know. I'll be reading the
news group when I am in over the holidays, but it would
be safer to e-mail me directly. Thanks.

eric howard
ehwd@sherman.pas.rochester.edu
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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: How to write a "turnin" utility??
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 16:21:53 GMT

In article <1hpr33INNco0@rave.larc.nasa.gov> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>In article <C010F5.9D6@news.iastate.edu> john@iastate.edu (John Hascall) writes:
>>others are no doubt possible.  Actually, given the known horrors of setuid
>>scripts it should really be a program (or god forbid, Perl, the APL of
>>scripts) to be safe.
>
>Why bother?  There is already a facility designed for transferring large
>amounts of text from one user to another in a secure manner.  It's called
>mail.

	That's the first time I've ever heard someone call email "secure".
Evidently our definitions of "secure" differ.

	A mail solution can be trivially spoofed.

--Dave
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From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Re: DNS - Please help.
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:27:45 GMT

broberts@wpi.WPI.EDU (broberts) writes:

>I am hoping you can help me with a problem.    I realize that this may have
>been discussed a few hundred times, but I really need the help.
>	
>	Thanks.
>The enviorment:

>	1 SUN 4/360 server - NFS NIS
>	1 SUN 3/60  server - NFS
>	4 SUN 1+ NFS/NIS Clients
>	8 SUN IPC NFS/NIS Clients
>	1 SUN 1+ Internet slip DIALUP only gateway - MAIL SERVER

>	All of the sun's are running SunOs 4.1.1

>The problem:

>	I have run through all of the steps to get DNS running correctly
>	for the outside world only.  It works correctly on the 4/360
>	it works fine on 1 IPC.  It works fine on the 1+ to the internet.
>	The rest of the machines have various problems with it.

>	A few of the IPC's can't send outgoing mail when configured for
>	DNS all of thir messages are returned by our mail server saying
>	undeliverable.  When reconfigured without DNS their mail goes out
>	fine.

>	The 1+'s and the rest of the IPC's have a problem with internal
>	addresses when configured for DNS - They don't see anyone inside
>	the bldg, but can ping the hell out of sun.com.

>/etc/resolv.conf has the following line in it.

>order nis,local,bind.
>	Any help will be greatly appreciated.

>	Thanks

Your NIS server needs to be your DNS server as well.  Our setup has local
name service tables running on our NIS server and all is well.  In addition,
if you are running stock Sun, you need to uncomment the B=-b in the yp
makefile ( /var/yp/Makefile in our case).  TFM says also that you should run
ypserv -d in your rc.local, but I have been told that this is not necessary
by some people, and by others that I should be running ypserv -i (an
undocumented feature of SunOS4.0.3).  Go with ypserv -d.  Another unusual
feature of Sun's DNS is that you have to have /etc/resolv.conf on your
primary DNS server, as well as on all of the clients.

Finally, the above resolve.conf line has no place on a stock Sun
installation.  It might be part of resolv+, but if someone has hacked
resolv+ into your site, then you may be on your own getting all of the
pieces of NIS and DNS to hang together properly.  I have the stock Sun stuff
working just fine.

resolv.conf should look like:

domain your.domain
nameserver IP_address_of_primary_nameserver
nameserver IP_address_of_secondary_nameserver

You need a resolv.conf on every machine in your net.

Hope this works for you.


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From: johnson@trwacs.fp.trw.com (Steve Johnson)
Subject: Re: How do you back up a terabyte?
Organization: TRW Systems Division, Fairfax VA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:44:04 GMT

mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us writes:

>In article <herman.724556613@phage>, herman@nosc.mil (John W. Herman) writes:
>> twl10@ccc.amdahl.com (Tom Littauer) writes:
> 
>> >In article <1992Dec16.161430.1109@cc.ic.ac.uk> cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk writes:
>> >>In article <ericw.724459057@hobbes>, ericw@hobbes.amd.com (Eric Wedaa) writes:
>> >>- 
>> >>- The subject says it all.  "How do you back up a terabyte?"
>> >>
>> >>With great care.
> 
>> Paper tape.  There is a company which advertizes the ability to back up
>> 1 terabyte to a paper tape real.  Honest

>Someone check me--that would be about a 100 giga-inch reel, no?  About
>1.6 million miles of paper tape?
>I don't mean to suggest that this is ridiculous; perhaps that company
>plans to start just _one_ such backup?
>-- 
> (This man's opinions are his own.)
> From mole-end				Mark Terribile
> mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us, Somewhere in Matawan, NJ
  Actually the company refers to their product as "optical paper" tape and has
more in common with optical discs than that cute yellow stuff with the holes
punched in it.  I've got information on it here (somewhere) and if I can find
it will post it if desired.  
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From: gord@jericho.uucp (Gord Wait)
Subject: Re: How do you back up a terabyte?
Organization: S-MOS Systems, Inc. (Vancouver Design Center)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 21:42:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.190252.9496@meiko.com> mike@meiko.com (Mike Stok) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.232752.10974@mole-end.matawan.nj.us> mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us writes:
>>In article <herman.724556613@phage>, herman@nosc.mil (John W. Herman) writes:
>>> twl10@ccc.amdahl.com (Tom Littauer) writes:
>> 
>>> >In article <1992Dec16.161430.1109@cc.ic.ac.uk> cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk writes:
>>> >>In article <ericw.724459057@hobbes>, ericw@hobbes.amd.com (Eric Wedaa) writes:
>>> >>- The subject says it all.  "How do you back up a terabyte?"
>> 
>>> Paper tape.  There is a company which advertizes the ability to back up
>>> 1 terabyte to a paper tape real.  Honest
>>
>>Someone check me--that would be about a 100 giga-inch reel, no?  About
>>1.6 million miles of paper tape?
>>
>>I don't mean to suggest that this is ridiculous; perhaps that company
>>plans to start just _one_ such backup?
>
>Check out Digital Paper from ICI Dataproducts in the UK, I think there
>are a couple of Canadian companies selling Digital Paper based backup
>systems.  I seem to remember it's a write once medium as flexible as
>tape but with phenomenal bit density, written & read with a laser.
>
>... of course I could be wrong :-) ...
>
>Mike
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>Mike Stok                         |
>mike@meiko.com                    |
>Meiko tel: (617) 890 7676         |


Not paper tape!! Optical tape. Call:

Creo Products Inc.
110 - 3700 Gilmore Way
Vancouver B.C. Canada
V5J 4M1
(604) 437-6879

Contact Steven Hoy

Their system can store up to 4 terabytes to optical tape.


-- 
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From: rdavis@convex.com (Ray Davis)
Subject: Re: How do you back up a terabyte?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:22:02 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>- The subject says it all.  "How do you back up a terabyte?"

You buy a Convex FIleserver or Storage Manager os course!  B-)
ConvexOS (4.[234]+Posix++) supports single files up to one
terabyte (minus 512 bytes) in size, and we support Unitree as
well as our own virtual filesystem manager CSM using Metrum
tape (for one) as backend storage.  The Metrum RSS-600 holds
about 8.5 terabytes, and is a robotic unit of S-VHS tapes.

Even more dense devices soon to be supported.

Cheers,
Ray
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