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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:32:05 PDT
Comments:     Resent-From: Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1>
Comments:     Originally-From: "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
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From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Perfumed ambience

Now THIS is the kind of stuff I was dying to get into.
Thanks Marco.


>        For legal reason, I can use Beethoven without stealing anything
>from anyone. It's public domain music.

The thing is, almost everyone can pick out a theme borrowed from
the great masters and know that it IS the great masters' work.
I don't think there is anyone who would have the balls to steal a
passage from Beethoven's 9th note for note and claim it to be theirs.
Only the foolish would do such a thing.  Brahms did a lot of this, but
he did it to pay homage to his predecessor.

non-sequiteur:
Here's a really strong example of copying melody without all i want
giving just credits:  "All I Want" by The Lightningseeds.  You can
hear blatant rip-offs of melodies from "Get Offs My Cloud" by the Stones.
It's so obvious, it made me wince with disgust.

>Again, the point is that a scale usually has seven notes or less
>(twelve if you want to make it awkward, and then one can use quarter-tones
>and cents, but let's not go overboard).

BTW, did you know that there is a Turkish scale that has 12 distinct
notes between the Bb and the C (on the C major scale)?  Pretty
scary--their tuning sessions must be HELL.

Marco says:>
*ENGLISH POP/ROCK MUSIC*
>melody                 The Beatles, Spencer Davis Group, the Merseybeat move-
                        ment (early 60s)

*** transition --> psychedelia: less melody, more experiments (early P. Floyd)

>virtuosity             Canterbury school, early progressive music (Genesis,
                        VdGG)

*** transition --> gothic rock (late Yes, late Emerson Lake & Palmer): more
                   technical skill, less heart

>mood                   Whatever lies between punk and Peter Gabriel...

*** transition --> early shy attempts to make "clever" dance music (The Human
                   League, Heaven 17, etc) and world music contamination

>ingenuity              Electronic technology to the extreme, start of hard-
                        core (Sigue Sigue Sputnik, Frankie Goes To Hollywood)

*** transition --> the pitiful chaos of late 80s

>beat                   Yup: rap, techno and all the countless waves of dance
                        made "for the dance" and nothing else. Rave, of cour-
                        se.

*** transition --> happening now!

>melody                 Well, it seems to be back actually. One name for all:
                        My Bloody Valentine. Noisy noisy noisy guitars and,
                        at the very same time, you can sing along.

*** transition --> WHO KNOWS?

>virtuosity             WHO KNOWS?
<end of quote.  I'm glad someone besides me is seeing a possible trend.
There may be other schemes out there, but this is the one that I see
distinctly.  Like I said before--I think my new band will fit quite well
in the scheme of things.... ;)

We shall see...

Mike Masuda.
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