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From: mgq@inel.gov (Michael G McKellar)
Subject: Re: Peter Pan meets Dinomonsters (Jurassic Park)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 21:51:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.212309.13565@PacBell.COM> jcwasik@srv.PacBell.COM (Joe Wasik) writes:
>I've seen so many comments about Jurassic Park.  None of the articles that
>I've read, comment on Steven Spielberg being the director.  This is a guy
>who's made nothing but kiddie movies the last many years.  His fear-inspiring
>skills as in Jaws and Poltergeist have long gone.  He'll take a good plot,
>an adult plot, and turn it into Peter Pan.  Is there any hope?
>
>-- 
>Joe Wasik, Pacific Bell, San Ramon, CA (510)823-2422, jcwasik@pacbell.com
>"Be good -- go to church. Be good -- go to church. Be good -- go to church."
>	-- Republican Economic Plan.



In my opinion I think Steven Spielberg will do a great job.  I've
enjoyed most of his films but he is skilled in suspense look at 
Jaws and the Indiana Jones films.  Granted the Indiana Jones are
not meant to be taken seriously, but they were fun in a suspensful
way.  I also like his more serious films like The Color Purple and
Empire of the Sun.  As I was reading Jurrasic Park, I saw 
elements that were similar with Jaws.  I'm looking forward to the
film because Spielberg is directing it.

Mike McKellar (mgq@inel.gov)
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From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut (SPOILERS)
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:50:15 GMT

One thing that I wondered about was that the echo of Gaff's last
comment still rang out when Deckard examined the origami unicorn.
I thought it was strange since we now had a completely different
interpretation of the unicorn.
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From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re:  Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:43:14 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies

In article <bruce.0alz@zuhause.MN.ORG>, bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce
Albrecht) writes:
|>I once watched Quintus, starring Paul Newman, at a SF con.  It may not have
|>been all that embarrassing, but it sure seemed dumb and pointless to me.
|>--
|>bruce@zuhause.mn.org
|>Youth is wasted on the young.
     
   Isn't that film called "Quintet"?

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From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Holden's Eyes (was Re: Blade Runner...(SPOILERS))
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 04:00:11 GMT

In <1992Sep14.223157.16223@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:

>In article <BD.92Sep14132707@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>>
>>Hate to spoil a thread here, but if replicant eyes glowed and
>>human eyes didn't, what do you need the Voight-Kampf test for?

>It's a textual clue for the audience.

At the same time, this seems to me to be a disturbing trend in the
film and from what I can tell of the new re-release (I haven't had the
opportunity to see it for myself as I am stuck in backwoods
Ottawa-the-capital-without-cultural-capital) and that is the removal
of ambiguit within the film.  If, indeed, it is a visual clue, akin to
those in Westworld as another netter pointed out, then it seems to be
an unnecessary spoiler.  All in MHO, of course.  I have been wrong
before and I will be wrong again.

Ian
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: upcoming stephen king
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:58:33 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

PR>A film version of "Needful Things" is in the works.  All I remember,
PR>off the top of my head, is that Ed Harris and Max von Sydow star.
PR>It hasn't started filming yet, so it may not happen, but I'd guess
PR>the chances are very, very good that it will get made.

     It seems as though the only work of Stephen King's that isn't going to
     be filmed is his high school algebra homework - or did he write "A
     Brief History Of Time" under a pseudonym when he was younger?  :)
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From: trudel@athos.rutgers.edu (Jonathan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:08:52 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

eyeater@pbs.org writes:

>	His name, as I recall, was Nigel Terry, but I haven't the slightest 
>  idea what he's done since.

Try the new ABC series "Covington Cross."
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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Possible Foundation movie?
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa  
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:03:46 GMT

>I would rather not see "The Forever War". I didn't like the book at all, sort
>of like a black-and-white leftist answer to Heinlein's "Starship Troopers". 
>Now a REAL version of "Starship Troopers" is another story.
>Please do not followup with flames about TFW, this is only my opinion.

not a flame, but I really enjoyed TFW, much more than ST - and I'm nowhere
near being leftist.  I think Haldeman's experience (he was in VietNam
wasn't he?) were excellently used in TFW - not only his description
of warriors and battle, but his realistic view on the effects.
Both are fine stories and would make an excellent double-feature. 
-- 
gary cooper (not the dead one)     "Non Dignis Sum!" - Waynus and Gartus 
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From: ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe)
Subject: Re: Prospero's Books (was Re: Most <pejorative adjective> Movie)
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 10:28:01 GMT

nichols@math.umn.edu (Preston Nichols) writes:

>but I was unable to decide between two possible conlcusions:

>	1. The film was sumptuously beautiful, but empty.  Greenaway has
>	an elaborately developed visual esthetic which he knows how to
>	put on film, but he has nothing to add thematically to Shakespeare's
>	original treatment of the story.  Indeed, Greenaway's
>	technological overprocessing obscures much of the depth of the
>	play, and gives us nothing but (admittedly masterful) flash and
>	spectacle in compensation.

>	2.  The multilayered sounds and images convey an original and
>	substantive new interpretation of The Tempest, one which is
>	perhaps expressible only in the medium of film.

What about:

	3. It was ponderous crap that only shows how good Derek Jarman's
	Tempest is.

	4. It was clearly made for people who don't speak English, but do 
	like magazine layouts.

	5. It was a numbing and futile attempt to provide entertainment 
	for the humourless.

	6. Nudity was essential to the film, other wise everyone would
	have walked out.
-ricko
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Comments on Siesta?
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:07:18 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Sep8.185846.19549@morrow.stanford.edu>, by trm@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Tara R. Marchand):
> I just finished watching _Siesta_

It's been a long time since I saw, but I did not like it at all.  I
found it heavy-handed and confused.  The plot advanced in a haphazard
manner, with fairly incongruous actions of the heroine as she moved
through the city.  Both her background and love affair showed too much
style and too little substance.  For me, the film foundered completely
under the weight of its pretensions.  It was trying so hard to be
mystic and artsy and romantic and dramatic that it ended up as merely
annoying.

> who directed Siesta, I don't remember.  Another side note:  I think
> Byrne and Sands play Byron and Shelley in another movie

Gothic, by Ken Russell.  Much better, IMO.
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford Question
Date: 15 Sep 1992 19:08:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Loren Larsen writes:

>Is Harrison Ford some sort of recluse?  I have never seen an interview with 
>him or seen him in those pictures of the starts going to previews or parties.
>Does he give interviews?  Am I just not looking in the right places?  All I
>know about him is that he does great movies.  I can't think of a flop that
he's
>been in.                               
                                                
>Thanks,                             
>Loren

Mr. Ford does appear to be rather press-shy and private. He
rarely does interviews, although I read a rather in-depth one
about a year ago in one of those Sunday supplements that come
with my newspaper (I believe it was _Parade_). He lives up
in Montana (I think) with his wife and children. He is married
to Melissa Matheson, one of the screenwriters for _E.T._, and
she is his second wife.


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Thing and White Fang
Date: 7 Sep 92 03:40:53 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1578@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>, idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole) writes:
 
> Last night I was watching John Carpenter's  The Thing and a friend
> commented that the dog seen at the beginning looks very much like
> the dog in White Fang.  

Your friend has sharp eyes...it is in fact the same wolf-dog.
And he's a *beautiful* animal, no?  He also appeared in _The Journey
of Natty Gann_.  Amazingly trained.  Not suprising that he's in demand.

Also for your info, the bear in _White Fang_ (one of my favorite adventure
movies!!!) is the same one from the movie _The Bear_.

Glad to be of help.  (And good one Gilbert!)

Greg Bole                                    "The ants in the grass, they
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  were just doing their thing."
                                            Matt Dillon in _Drugstore Cowboy_
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From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Subject: Re: Later, Tony Perkins
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 20:53:19 GMT

marck@nwu.edu (Jater & Co.) writes:

<Before Tony graduated from Rollins College, he got offers to work in
<Shakespearean theater up in New York.  Few people know of this man's talent
<for Shakespeare -- for much of the classic repertoire, in fact.  Dad and he
<discussed it and he decided to go for the chance to make it in New York. 
<While he was there, he called Dad and told him that he had been offered a
<screen test for a movie shooting out in L.A., to be directed by one Alfred
<Hitchcock.  And the rest, as they say ...

You make it sound as if Psycho was Perkins' first film. It wasn't even
close. He had been a big star - and (believe it or not) major teen idol
- for about 5 years before Psycho was made. You're right about Psycho
ruining his career. He never got over being typecast, so powerful was
his performance in that film!

Some pre-Psycho films: 

Desire Under the Elms
The Matchmaker
Fear Strikes Out
Green Mansions
Friendly Persuasion
On the Beach
Tall Story
The Tin Star

lots of others...

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                                        John Howells
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                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov
From: rcbi27@marshall.wvnet.edu (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: filmmakers who didn't go to film school
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:33:48 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

In article <BuFvty.D0C@well.sf.ca.us>, rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
> 
> What filmmakers never went to film school? The two I know of right
> now are Woody Allen and Stanley Kubrick, who started out as a
> photographer.
> -- 
> Robert Chao
> Oakland, California

How about Max Sennet? I guess that's going back a ways. Maybe most of those
old-timers never went to film schools--heck, the things probably didn't
exist inthose early days!

--danny
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From: jameskau@aludra.usc.edu (James Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: "Dead Again" question
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:44:55 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <320005@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> myron@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Myron Cox) writes:
>
>There's one scene that still confuses me in "Dead Again."
>
>Who did Strauss kill in the prison hallway with the scissors after he
>whispered (or kissed) the reporter?  Was this just a dream sequence?
>
>It's the only loose end that I can't tie up in this movie.
>
>Thanks,
>Myron

SPOILERS...


This was one thing that had also confused me; I discussed with a few friends,
and we came up with that it was a dream sequence.  However, you usually don't
allow yourself to die in dreams; the Emma Thompson character (I would guess)
distorted the memory/flashback in her dream so that Roman didn't die.  
At least that's what we think.  It was pretty strange (I loved the movie,
though).  I figure it had to be a dream as opposed to an actual memory because
it wouldn't really make sense for Roman to have been given a haircut right
before an execution, and it really wouldn't make sense for the barber to have
left the scissors behind...


James Kaufman
jameskau@aludra.usc.edu
From: "tom betz" <tom.betz@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: best shots wanted
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:59:30 EST
Reply-To: "tom betz" <tom.betz@execnet.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Executive Networks Information

Quoth Eric Walker regarding BEST SHOTS WANTED on 09-07-92:

EW>JJ>The opening shot to Orson Welles "Touch of Evil" is one of the spec
EW>JJ>shots that movie historians like to point out as one of the most te
EW>JJ>masterful and best ever done.
EW>JJ>        I personally think that the opening shot of Robert Altman's
EW>JJ>Player" is better.
EW>
EW>     Altman probably never would have been able to do that opeing shot
EW>     if he didn't have "Touch Of Evil" to use as an example to follow.
EW>
EW>     One thing I keep hearing from people who've supposedly never seen
EW>     any movies made before "Star Wars" is: "So what if they did that
EW>     stuff back then?  Today's movies outdo anything ever done before!

This puts me in mind of a story Bill Cosby told Joe Franklin when he 
appeared there a year or so ago.

When Cosby first came to New York, he went to a theater showing a bill of 
Charlie Chaplin films.  Cosby had heard about Chaplin, but he had never 
seen his films.  As he watched, he found himself getting angry -- here was 
this man, touted as a comic genius, and he was performing all these cliche 
bits!  One after another, Chaplin was performing cliche after cliche... 
and then it dawned on him -- all those "cliches" were cliche only because 
they had been done over and over again by people >imitating< and >drawing 
upon< the work that Chaplin had done >first<!

Unfortunately, the people you refer to mostly lack Cosby's insight.



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From: fredrikm@eik.ii.uib.no (Fredrik Manne)
Subject: Re: Mistakes in _Lake Wobegon Days_
Organization: Department of Informatics, University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 06:17:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.171336.42869@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
|> I guess this is the place to put this:
|> 
|> There are two mistakes in Garrison's book _Lake Wobegon Days_.  One of
|> them is on page 73 where he has a Norwegian approach a *group* of
|> people and ask, "Ar du Norsk?" (that's ungrammatical in Norwegian, if
|> said to a group; ask any Norwegian).
|> 

The correct should (of course) be "Er dere norske?" 

GK often says that something is Norwegian when it is not. When he claims
to be speaking Norwegian on his show he is really speaking Danish.
Also in his latest book WLT the Norwegian philosopher Soren Black is
really a reference to the Danish philosopher Soren Kirkegaard.

I attended a book signing last year and had the chance to ask GK
why he kept passing his Danish away as Norwegian. To which he
replied: "Oh but I am just an ignorant American".

Anyway he managed to write "God Jul og Godt Nytt {\aa}r" in my book.
(Merry X-mas and happy new year). It is spelled the same way in Norwegian
and Danish.


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{\aa} is Latex for "a" with a ring above.
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From: karl@ima.isc.com (Karl Heuer)
Subject: Thanksgiving broadcast
Originator: karl@kelp.ima.isc.com
Organization: Interactive Systems, Cambridge, MA 02138-5302
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 00:48:37 GMT

Two questions about tonight's (repeat) show:

[0] What was the original broadcast date?  I turned it on just in time
for the theme song, and missed the announcement.  It was the weekend before
thanksgiving, evidently, but which year?

[1] The thanksgiving song by Jeff Balch (sp?) was great!  But no matter how
often I play it back, I can't make out what Ivy Austin is singing at the
beginning of the chorus:
	You can give thanks to a creator
	Or [???] just to chance
Anybody know what's supposed to fit in the blank?  (It's three syllables.)

--Karl

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From: belville@athena.mit.edu (Sharon Belville)
Subject: Re: Mistakes in _Lake Wobegon Days_
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:00:31 GMT


But remember GK's comment on his last PHC?  "I'm about to move to Denmark and
start my career as a tall silent person."

He never claimed to quite get a feel for Danish, much less Norwegian :-)

--
Sharon Belville
From: spiegl@cs.utexas.edu (Andreas Spiegl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.wobegon
Subject: Wobegon Show
Date: 10 Sep 1992 03:37:28 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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Keywords: Wobegon, Lake, cool

Hi, guys!

Can you please tell me, when GK puts his show on? And what radio station?
I just moved to Austin, so I don't know much about it yet. But I DO know
Garrison, of course!

Please send email, as I dont read news very often.
Thanx a lot, 
 Andy

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From: brennan+@pitt.edu (David P Brennan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.wobegon
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving broadcast
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:29:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Sep06.004837.5430@ima.isc.com> karl@ima.isc.com (Karl Heuer) writes:
>Two questions about tonight's (repeat) show:
>
>[0] What was the original broadcast date?  I turned it on just in time
>for the theme song, and missed the announcement.  It was the weekend before
>thanksgiving, evidently, but which year?

The folks at the local station gave the date as 11-23-91.

>
>[1] The thanksgiving song by Jeff Balch (sp?) was great!  But no matter how
>often I play it back, I can't make out what Ivy Austin is singing at the
>beginning of the chorus:
>	You can give thanks to a creator
>	Or [???] just to chance
>Anybody know what's supposed to fit in the blank?  (It's three syllables.)
>
Can't help there...

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From: tomoo@hpmctt.mcm.hp.com (Tomoo Taguchi)
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving broadcast
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 19:51:33 GMT

If I am not mistaken, all the broadcasts this summer are reruns from
last year, so this weekend's show was orignally broadcast in November
1991.  Anyone know when the first show of the 1992-1993 season will be?

As to the song, I haven't listened to the tape yet, so I can't help you
there.  If I can make the words out, I'll send you mail.

Tomoo
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