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From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: hellooooo....
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:54:15 GMT


In article <1993Jan27.192628.13810@dms.agames.com> lipson@dms.agames.com (Pete
Lipson) writes:
>  i haven't seen ANY traffic on this for weeks (except for one from Pasker las
t week).
>Is anyone out there? have i just lost any feed from outside the bay area?

What bay area are you talking about.  Its a big world you know.


steve
-- 
"Chicks with bricks come, chicks with blocks come, chicks with bricks and 
blocks and clocks come."
Orlin.2@osu.edu                   -Dr. Seuss
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Subject: Re: homebrew truck ramps?
From: vmiglus@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:16:59 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1993Jan25.232932.24021@spdc.ti.com>, aweaver@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Andy Weaver) writes:

> My truck is a 69 Chevy long bed, which might help a little (you can land a 
> plane in the back of it :), but I wouldn't worry about doing it in a mini 
> truck either.
> 
Even though I'm a an "old fart"(tm) and don't go fast or take chances like the
Texas Glitter Boyz, I to ride up into my truck. It's a Toyota 4X4 longbed and
with a 7 foot ramp it's alot easier to ride up than to try to push the KTM up
after bashing my body all day on the New England rocks.  

The only time I chicken out is if it's raining and the 2x8 ramp is wet and
slick.

Vacek,
aka vmiglus@eagle.wesleyan.edu
> 
> Andy
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From: dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne)
Subject: More winter blues...
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:23:29 GMT

       Well, here's an update on my stolen snowmobile (Yamaha Phazer,
    "Mr. Hyde").  It was discovered on the day after I reported it,
    sitting on our lake about 1.5 miles from our house.  After putting
    maybe 25 miles on it (it was only running on one cylinder!), the
    scumbag thieves taped the throttle partway open and tried to send
    it over the dam, which has about a 25 foot tall spillway (it
    probably would have hit the safety cable anyway).  Well it didn't
    make it, because it bogged down in the slushy snow from the
    friggin' RAIN we got before the big snow.  It spun in the slush and
    fried the drive belt, and maybe even the engine.  It was clogged
    with ice and siezed up somehow.  It took our 2 other machines to
    pull it out of the slush, and we had to sit Mr. Hyde on a plastic
    sled so it would slide.  It's at the shop, and we don't have the
    word yet on the total damage.  Good thing we got it without any
    real damage to the other machines, the lake was/is in pretty scary
    shape (soft).

      I've got a .357 magnum round or six waiting for the local scumbags
    who did it (2 other machines were swiped from the neighborhood too).

      Some good news... I FINALLY got the personalized plate for my
    DR350, which I haven't seen in months!    JED 350    Pretty cool,
    and no extra charge if you apply when there is a title change.  It
    took 4 months to get here!  Good thing it's the off-season, my temp
    tag expired 3 months ago.

      The rain is coming again, another shitty Chicago winter.  After
    my snowmobile tour next month, those suckers are headed back to the
    barn and I'll be on a bike kick again... still planning a Texas
    trip come spring, but we gotta avoid of all that damn rain!

    JED

    [Team Strange.  We're always lookin' for some.]

--
   Jim Dunne   dunne@rtsg.mot.com    ...uunet!motcid!dunne   Northern IL, USA
    --<{ TEAM STRANGE -- street / dirt / lake / snow / ice  LOCO-MOTION }>--
From: oconnor@eng.umd.edu (Mark O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: CYCLE REPAIR FOR LESS $$
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:23:27 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD
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THOMAS ENGELHARDT writes:

>MOTORCYCLE REPAIR - SERVICE - MAINTENANCE FOR LESS!!!!

>ALL MAKES/BRANDS STREET, DIRT, ATV

>10 YEARS EXPERIENCE

>FREE ESTIMATES

>PICK-UP AVAILABLE

Hey Tom,
Bike needs a fresh main bearing downstairs.  I have a race this
weekend.  Whatd'll cost to get this thing to the starting line
this weekend?  You _do_ pick up, right??


...OOOhhh.

_Now_ you say:

>LOCAL PICK-UP AVAILABLE

Oh.
Anything else we should know Tom?

-Mark
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: AXO RC2 Kevlar Report
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:42:30 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
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As promised, I've been able to ride a couple of times in my new boots.

Model:
AXO RC2 Kevlar

Pros:

Easiest boot I've ever had to get into.
Easiest boot I've ever had to walk in.  The kevlar is around the front
 instep of the boot making it easy to bend.
Neat Neon Colors :-)

Cons:

They aren't quite large enough around the tops when I have my mongo 
 knee guards on.  My knee guards are the old MS type that go from the
 instep to the top of the knee.  I've taken out stumps with these knee
 guards and are _real_ skeptical about giving them up.

The jury is still out on the buckle system.  It looks like they will 
 be easy to frag, but as of now they have held up well.

Boots Owned before:

2 - AlpineStars (1 HiPoint 1 Fox)
1 - Sidi (don't remember the model.  They had the little bumps 
    all over the side and toe)


  O                    Ken Murphy aka kenm@array.com               Member   RMEC
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From: oconnor@eng.umd.edu (Mark O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: CR250 dust cap removal?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:38:19 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD
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John Krumpotick asks:
>anyone had a good method for popping them off?   (dust caps)

Hey John,
don't be afraid, just pry loose with a screwdriver.  I do it
frequently and they hold up pretty well.  I always figured,
what could Honda possibly charge for these little buggers,
$12 - $15 each,  HAAA!  Never had to replace mine.

*Mark OConnor      Aerospace Engineering      University of Maryland*
*'90 CR250R        AMA District 7 Vet #90     MB Racing Group       *
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From: henkelma@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Stefan Henkelmann)
Subject: Re: Information Wanted on 650 Dual-Sports
Originator: henkelma@hphalle4a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:06:02 GMT


I'm interested in the prices for the KAWASAKI KLX 650 and the KLR650
in U.K. and in the USA (other countries also appreciated)!
Im also interested in the prices for an Honda
XRV 750 Africa Twin (not available in the US).
The price for the Kawasaki in Germany is 10000 DM.
About 6000 U.S. Dollars. 

Thanks Stefan
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: bultaco spares
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:54:43 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
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Mark O'Connor (oconnor@eng.umd.edu) wrote:

: Merf said:
: >Shirley you jest?

: Hey, don't bring Shirley into this...

.. Sorry.  Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing 
glue. :-)

ObMoto:  Looks like the weather might hold for a day of scooter 
riding down Pueblo way.  Anybody in this area wanna meet, gimme
a call.

Merf
From: ged@po.CWRU.Edu (George E. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Houston Supercross results!
Date: 22 Jan 1993 05:55:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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"Air Time" Cooper is now sponsored by UFO racing apparel.

BTW, has anyone out there seen the new Xtreme gear in person.
If so how's the quality and price?  They're new in the apparell
market (before they sold T shirts) and landed "the chicken",
vet Rex Staten, and off-roader Larry Roesler (sp) to wear their
gear this season.

-- 
'If you can't hang with the big dogs,       *      George Davis
don't get off the porch!'                   *      ged@po.cwru.edu
      -Gary Denton
(5 time AMA Quadcycle Nat'l Champ)
From: connelly@key.amdahl.com (John Connelly)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Tough MX tracks in CA???
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:27:40 GMT
Reply-To: connelly@key.amdahl.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

Al Conte writes:
---------------------
At Hollister, on the lower ranch, they have a sort of SX course.
It has some nice jumps, ( no double or triples though) and a good
number of off cambers.`
If you are as good as you think, you might be able to combine a few jumps
into doubles.
---------------------

Huh?? I probably have spent more than 75% of my riding time over the last 2 years
at Hollister. If you're talking about the "Practice MX" track you're WAY off base.
"Some nice jumps"??? WHERE??!! They keep mowing them down. You can't even get a
couple feet of air at max. speed off the "big" jump. "Combine a few jumps into
doubles"??? HA! The only thing you can "double" is the couple sets of whoops at
the beginning. C'mon, Al!!! Get REAL!

Santa Clara PAL track used to be great. Nice doubles, lots of SX-style obstacles.
Too bad some STUPID &$@#^$%#%@^& went and SUED them after he got hurt riding.
F%#K I HATE CALIFORNIA.

John
'92 YZ250  - AMA - GFI - FEAR RACING
From: oconnor@eng.umd.edu (Mark O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Flywheel weight
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:38:01 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD
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Josh Harmon writes:
> BTW, both of the weights used were of the removable type so 
>someone out there trusts them.

May be an inaccurate assumption.  The rag test riders don't buy
their mods necessarily.  Yeah these guys are cheap, not much
different than many of us, but when you have distributors giving
you parts, yeah, you run 'em.  Besides, when the bike needs
repair, ...well I don't think it comes out of _their_ paycheck,
like it does for the rest of us unsponsored racers.

*Mark OConnor      Aerospace Engineering      University of Maryland*
*'90 CR250R        AMA District 7 Vet #90     MB Racing Group       *
From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Tough MX tracks in CA???
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:03:57 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

In article <1993Jan20.214137.19909@spdc.ti.com>, baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter) writes:
> In article <4012@key.COM> connelly@key.amdahl.com writes:
>>Okay, here's a tough one for everybody:
>>
>>I want a super-tough MX track to practice on, somewhere in northern California.
>>I want Doubles!
>>I want Triples!
>>I want King Size Whoops!
>>I want Mondo Tables!
>>I want stuff Damon Bradshaw wouldn't try!!!!
>>
> 
> Move to Texas!  You can get all but the last thing you ask for in Texas.  Ok,
> ok I can't resist, "Everything is big in Texas".  

  I agree, I'm living proof. :-)

  Seriously though, Texas does have some daresome tracks.  Some of them
  are safer than others.  A dangerous track would be one that is more
  or less unthoughtout before dug.

  Its ok to clutter a track with doubles and prejumps but I don't like to 
  have to approach every jump in fear that I won't do it exactly right.
  Its nice to know that you can be a little bit out of control and still
  have a high probability of success.

  I don't like to see people get hurt and there are a few tracks
  around here that aren't good for cutting your teeth on.  The experts
  and intermediates may be able to compensate for poor designed jumps
  but the newcomers wont.  The spodes are hopeless and will probably
  get hurt in the pits anyway so it doesn't matter what track conditions
  are to them.  :-)

1. If its a slow section of the track, its ok to put in a pitcher tabletop.
   Thats one that throws you higher than it does distancewise.
   (Burleson, Wolfcreek)

2. Its ok to put in a 45 degree launcher double in a fast section that 
   gives you plenty of time to set up.  (Mosier, Lake Whittney)

  If 1. and 2. are swapped.....  I hope there's paramedics. 
 
  The next time you're looking down on a supercross track from the stands,
  take a moment to notice the care taken in each one of the jump faces.
  Its obvious they were set up to clear multiples.

  Sorry that you aren't able to experience our tracks so I thought I'd
  offer some visual enjoyment.  :-)   Sorry, I've never seen a triple
  on a local track.

     ->          ->         ->         ->          ->         ->
          ___________                              ___/\       /\___
  __/\___/           \___/^--^\___/\/\/\/\/\______/     ^\___/^     ^\___

  If this is what you're looking for, come see us.  Gaw'd, I wish I could
  ride in California. :-)  I see all those photos with all the hills....
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From: lipson@dms.agames.com (Pete Lipson)
Subject: hellooooo....
Organization: Atari Games Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:26:28 GMT

  i haven't seen ANY traffic on this for weeks (except for one from Pasker last week).
Is anyone out there? have i just lost any feed from outside the bay area?

-- 
  /V\
-/@-*\- Peter Lipson <-- lipson@agames.com   or   netcom!dms!lipson
 \_o_/  Milpitas, CA <-- Atari Games
   U
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Houston Supercross results!
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:08:25 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
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David Donald (donald@dvinci.USask.Ca) wrote:
: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy) writes:

: >: 	#2 Cooper			#2 Lawrence
: >           ^^^^^
: >	   Cooper?  As in GUY Cooper?  HOORAY.  Everybody 
: >	   that would like to see the good guy win one for
: >	   a change, stand up.

: >Ditto!

: Me, too!!! Is he still riding the Yellow Monsters, or on something new this 
: season!!

Guy is still riding the Suzy's this year, AFAIK, and has a new team mate in
Chicken.  Will be interesting to see if anything develops in the Damon/Chicken
wars this year.  Damon is probably one of the most gifted riders to come
down the pike in a long time, but, man he does some boneheaded stuff sometimes.
He threw the championship away at Las Vegas last year.  He may have really
been trying to "pass" Chicken, but as Al would say, "I don't think so Tim."
And yes, I was rooting for Damon last year and will probably root for him
this year.  I just hope he matured enough to put it all together.  His riding
talent is already there, he just needs to learn when to back off and take 
points.

I _still_ wanna see Guy Cooper on the top of the rostrum.  

GivemHellGuy!  


: Dave

Merf
From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Tough MX tracks in CA???
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:10:14 GMT
Organization: RAND
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2




    John, I don't know too much about N Ca. but in So. Cal there are
quite a few places to ride that you are looking for. L.A. County Raceway
has everything you mentioned and more.


   L.A.C.R. has SX tracks G.P. tracks and special mini courses. They
are open for practice on Saturdays from 9:00A to 1:00P. And hold 
races every other Sunday since they are CRC sanctioned. CRC has
races every week but at differnt tracks each week.


   CRC membership is required for practice. It costs 30.00 to join
and 10.00 to ride practice.
    

       Good Luck ,    KEN
From: starr@carina.unm.edu (Gregory Starr ME.DEPT)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: homebrew truck ramps?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 22:00:51 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu

You guys just have the wrong kinda bike.  I made a hinged ramp,
similar to one recently described, to load mine and my kids bikes
into the '68 GMC.  With the 'ol '85 Husky 510 you just let the
clutch out in first and it idles right up the ramp...and it's a
good thing, considering my slick bed liner and the Husky's rotten
brakes!

     greg

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From: ed@oct17.dfe.dec.com (Ed Moehlenpah)
Subject: Need PW50 and size 2 boots
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Santa Clara, CA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:37:52 GMT

I'm going through a divorce, and am looking for a way to spend more quality
time with my 7 yr old.  I've got a couple of Husqvarna's I've been thinking
about rebuilding, and my son is now just tall enough to straddle and touch
the ground on a PW50(Yamaha).
I need some used size 2 boots, and any pointers on a used PW50.

Any help?

Ed
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Just send beer....
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:53:14 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
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Ken Ferguson (Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org) wrote:

: >If you buy it in Mexico, Corona ain't bad.  It doesn't have the USFDA 
: required 'stuff' in it there and has a much better flavor, IMHO.

:       This somehow concerns me. The thought of something swimming around
: in me brew.

If its swimming, its alive.
If its alive, the wet medium can't be toxic. (Hmmm... do Giardia swim?)
If the wet medium isn't toxic, and it tastes good, then I'll drink it. :-)

:           KEN

How true it is, I don't know, but rumors abound that 'murrican Corona has
chloroform in it.  I'd rather drink it without getting embalmed. :-)  Even
though I've felt like I've been embombed before.

Merf 
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:29:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Bigger wheel?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt

In rec.motorcycles.dirt, slv42@cc.usu.edu writes:

> Why the hell do Kawasaki's DP bikes have a 17' rear wheel?  I understand that
> the new KLX even uses a 17 for the DP and an 18 for the dirt only!  I think an
> 18 would barely clear the front of the swingarm on my 86 KLR 250, and not rub
> the fender when bottomed either.  I'm thinking about trying to mount the 18'
> wheel from my 82 KDX 250 when my tire wears out because 18' tires are cheaper 
> and have a wider selection.  Will this change the steering geometry
> significantly?  Is there anything else I need to consider?  If anyone's tried
> this, please let me know what tires will fit and anything else you've
> discovered.

A 17 foot rear wheel?!?!?!  Wow!!  It must take a ladder to mount and
dismount, but I imagine it really rolls over those bumps :-)

In general, the tires for 17" rear wheels are a higher profile than an
18" tire for a similar bike.  The end result is that the overall tire
diameter isn't that much different.  The 17" wheels were a fad during the
early to mid 80's.  I think that they were more popular on off-road bikes
as compared to motocross bikes.  One of the advantages of the higher
profile tire is that you could run a lower tire pressure and let the tire
adsorb a lot of the rocks without worrying about a bent rim.  The drawback
claimed by the neon motocross riders (rocks, what are those?) is that it
didn't offer as good of control in corners on the track.  I doubt that many
people on this planet could tell the difference.  No, you don't have to
worry about changing the steering geometry.  By the time you take into
account the tire geometry, you're talking less than 1/2" difference in ride
height.  I'd also be surprised if the wheel started hitting the bottom of 
the fender.  

Did anyone else out there have one of the first XR's with the 23" front
wheels?  Talk about hard to find tires for. 

-Jeff Deeney-  DoD#0498    NCTR(President)     '88 XR600-Shamu 
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop riding because we get old, we get old because we stop riding.
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From: dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne)
Subject: Re: CR250 dust cap removal?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:54:41 GMT

John Krumpotick writes:

>I'm about to knock down my rear shock/swingarm to grease the sucker up.  This
>is the first time I've done it and I was taking a look at the dust caps on
>the swingarm.  

   Hmmm, I can't think of anything on the caps except a small
   flat-bladed screwdriver to pry them off.  What I want to know is,
   how tough is this job???  When I look at the exploded view of my
   YZ's swingarm & shock linkage in the manual, it shows at least 50
   kazillion parts, and most of them look like tiny, losable, washers
   and bushings!  Do some parts come off in chunks?  Do you just grease
   everything, especially any obvious bearing surfaces?  The whole
   thing looks pretty frightening to a sledgehammer mechanic like
   m'self.

--
   Jim Dunne   dunne@rtsg.mot.com    ...uunet!motcid!dunne   Northern IL, USA
    --<{ TEAM STRANGE -- street / dirt / lake / snow / ice  LOCO-MOTION }>-- 
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From: wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman)
Subject: Re: XL 250 is too cold to start
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:38:57 GMT

In <124510178@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney) writes:

>In rec.motorcycles.dirt, jfreund@relleno.engr.ucdavis.edu (Jason Freund) writes:

>> 	Its about 30-50 degrees this time of the year here in the mid morning.
>> I haven't been able to start my 86 XL 250 all week -- even by pushing it.
>> I've heard from several other people that their XL's have trouble starting
>> in the cold too.  It has a fairly new plug, the battery is great, and the
>> compression is excellent and the cable hooked up to the kicker is ok.
>> 
>> 	I'm having the ceurberator professionally cleaned this weekend too.
>> Can anyone think of anything I can do to get it to start?  I'd like to tell
>> the people at the shop to do something to fix it besides clean the ceurb, to
>> get it to start.  BTW, is it possible to hook up an electric start ignition
>> to this kind of bike?  How much would that cost?

>I think that so far every one is pretty far off on this problem.  C'mon,
>it's only 30-50 degrees out.  It shouldn't be that hard to start.  I can
>kick over my XR600 in 5 degree weather after it's been sitting for months.
>You shouldn't need ether (note correct spelling) at these temperatures.  As
>far as I know, my bike doesn't even have a battery. 

>I'd say that the first thing you should do is to check your choke.  Make
>sure the butterfly is opening and closing properly.  Next, sort out the
>jetting.  A too lean idle and low speed circuit will make cold weather
>starting miserable.  I would guess that the EPA reg's imposed on the XL
>make it painfully lean with stock jetting.  

>Lastly, only girly men would think of getting an electric starter on a
>250cc bike. :-) I'm unaware of any drop-in components.  You might take a look
>at an NX250 to see if the starter could be adapted.  I suspect that it may
>require different cases.   You're looking at hundreds of dollars that will
>not fix the problem if it is related to jetting.  

I have to agree with Jeff . For the last 3 winters I've started my TT500
in temperatures ranging from 5C to -40C . 

In addition to checking the carb. , I'd check to make sure you're getting a 
spark. This is long shot since temp related spark failure is usually at
high (not low) temps, but check it anyway.

What seems most likely to me, is that you just have to try different 
starting techniques until you find the right one for your bike.

Good Luck
-- 
**         Russell Wardman         ** 78 TT-500 (for sale)             **
**          613-723-6500           ** 84 Turbo 750 KAWASAKI (for sale) ** 
**       Ottawa Ont. Canada        ** 90 KX 500 KAWASAKI               **
**      (rwardman@gandalf.ca)      **                                  **