HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Fall Tour Confirmation (Reliable Source)
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 21:47:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.202757.6828@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright) writes:
>
>I spoke to Kevin Spence, Promotor for Dead Shows for Cellar Door Productions
>yesterday (8-12) and asked about the upcoming shows and Jerry's health.
>Kevin said, the Cap center shows are on and it is nothing to worry about.  He 
>mentioned the usual stuff about Jerry's health (diabetes, weight, poor diet, 
>general lack of taking care of himself), and said that everything would
>be fine and not to be concerned.
>
>So let's sit back and wait, because worrying about it, isn't going
>to change anything.


In order to dispell any more offbase rumor's here is the latest word
off the Well, reprinted without permission but with good intentions.


gd.1070.29: Dude the Obscure (derf)  Thu 13 Aug 92 12:57

 I just got off the phone with Mickey, and he told me that he visited
 with Jerry yesterday, they walked, talked, laughed. He confirmed
 Weir's general report on the KPFA GDH (which I read to him from the WELL
 topic), and wanted me to pass along additional assurances that Jerry is
 doing well, will be ok, and to squash any rumors of anything heavier than
 stated in the Press Release, which was straightforward and accurate, not
 an attempt at "spin control." Jerry's following doctors' orders, 
 eating right, resting, etc. So keep the beams coming, but don't over-
 react :-)

 Don't overreact, things will all be well in time, meditate on it!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>dtodd@well.sf.ca.us            / | \                               <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: REEDR@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com (Randy - QA Program Coordinator, SMS Iselin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dead BBS (Eyes of the World Forum)
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:30:49 GMT
Reply-To: REEDR@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com
Organization: The Internet


	As far as I know, Terrapin Station is down - BUT -
	there is a new DEAD BBS at 908-727-4263 with three lines
	at 14.4Kbps!  after you log on, type "/GO EYES" to get
	to the "Eyes of the World Forum".  This is a free are
	for all interested parties to enjoy!
	
	Aiko, Aiko!		Randy Reed - Sysop
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From: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Subject: Re: Rider chords. Anyone know?
Reply-To: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Washington State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 17:53:52 GMT



Here's what I play:

   D                     C       G        D
I know you rider, gonna miss me when I'm gone

   D                     C       G        D
I know you rider, gonna miss me when I'm gone

       F         C          F       C   Em  D
Gonna miss your baby, come rollin' in your arms.


Others may differ -- no flames, please.

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Academic Computing Services | All standard disclaimers apply
Washington State University |   "Believe it if you need it, 
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509/335-0441                |         -- Robert Hunter
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From: "Timothy J. Dalton" <dalton@mtl.mit.edu>
Subject: Beta PCM Anyone ?
Reply-To: dalton@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:44:18 GMT


Anyone out there interested in trading on Beta PCM ?
Dead, Non-Dead, etc.  High quality (masters) only.
Again, just on beta pcm...

	Tim

	dalton@mtl.mit.edu

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From: Johnette Coleman/Hricak <johnette_coleman/hricak@rad-mac1.ucsf.edu>
Subject: None
Reply-To: johnette_coleman/hricak@rad-mac1.ucsf.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:43:37 GMT

 Body MRI is the Bridge_
                                                      8/13/92
                                                      3:04 PM
Hi, if I'm being a nuisance on your net I apologize.  I'm trying to hook up
with the dead net but am having no such luck.  
any kind words of advice greatly appreciated.  As in, how do i access the net?
I seem to only have the address to post.  Okay.  Thanks!
From: gilde@jaco.ds.boeing.com (Rob Gilde)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Correction to "Life After The Dead" announcement!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:45:11 GMT
Reply-To: gilde@jaco.ds.boeing.com
Organization: The Internet

In my haste to get this info out, I screwed up!

The correct dates are Saturday August 22 and Sunday August 23.  
                             
Sorry.

Rob
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From: Sheila Momaney <sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.EDU>
Subject: CHILI DOGS, MILKSHAKES & BU
Reply-To: sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:30:37 GMT

GatorMail-Q                   CHILI DOGS, MILKSHAKES & BUTTS...
Hi All-The following appeared this a.m. (8/14) in the San Francisco Chronicle:

**GARCIA ILLNESS MORE THAN "EXHAUSTION"**
FUTURE OF GRATEFUL DEAD HANGS ON GUITARIST'S RECOVERY
Despite official denials by the band's office, the illness of
Jerry Garcia apparently leaves the future of the Grateful Dead
very much in doubt.  His condition appears to be far more serious
than official reports of "exhaustion".
Although the group still plans to mount an 18-city East Coast 
tour starting September 9 in Washington, D.C., Garcia, the group's
lead guitarist, will continue his recovery at home.  Symptoms of
Garcia's recent collapse apparently included an enlarged heart
and fluid in his lungs, symptoms doctors call strongly indicative
of heart failure.
Garcia, who turned 50 last week, canceled appearances by his
solo band last weekend at the Warfield Theater.  Concerts scheduled
to take place at the end of this month in Oregon and at Shoreline Amphitheatre
were canceled earlier this week.  Sales of tickets
for the East Coast shows were suspended pending Garcia's
continued recovery.
Dead drummer Mickey Hart reported that Garcia is now exercising
and has stopped smoking.  His previous concession to health was
to switch from unfiltered to low-nicotine cigarets.
"I'm not hysterical and I don't know anybody who is hysterical,"
Hart said.  "He's been better, but he's been worse."
Garcia, who entered a hospital in 1986 in a diabetic coma and
was placed on a dialysis machine, is known for poor health habits.
In addition to cigaret smoking, he is overweight and routinely
indulges his fondness for chili dogs and milk shakes, a
potentially fatal combination for a diabetic, according to doctors.
Following his 1986 collapse, the Dead did not perform for more
than five months.  The Grateful Dead, who emerged from the
Haight-Ashbury rock scene 27 years ago, are currently the
leading concert attraction in the country, having earned
more than $30 million last year at the box office and selling
out all the appearances they've made this year.  Garcia plays
such a key role in the band that the group won't consider
performing withou thim.  
According to the Dead office, an announcement on the East
Coast dates will be made sometime next week.

ouch.
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Subject: Anyone seen Springsteen this tour ?
From: jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:56:49 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University


Long shot ..

Anyone out here seen Springsteen this tour ? Any info you can email me by 4:30
Thur 8/13 would be Grate :)

Jim
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From: jeff@dirac.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Subject: Mountain Jam (was Re: question about TFTV)
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:38:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.141330.20569@vicorp.com> mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous) writes:
>
>First appearance that I know of is in the Alligator jam on Anthem of the Sun.
>This was from the 2-14-68 Carousel Ballroom performance. It definitely
>predates the Allman's "Mountain Jam", and I've always assumed that they
>(the Allmans) picked up on it upon hearing Anthem of the Sun.
>
>-Mark

 To add to the circularity, I have a tape of the Allman Brothers at SUNY
 Stony Brook in 1970 (forget the exact date) where Duane *unmistakeably*
 plays the Dark Star melody ("Dark Star crashes...) on slide in the
 middle of a raging(!) Mountain Jam. Looks like there was a fair amount
 of cross-pollination...

 Jeff.
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From: Jeff.Burchell@f305.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Burchell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: John Prine... SOrry
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:27:48 GMT
Reply-To: Jeff.Burchell@f305.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: The Internet

To all those interested in the John Prine tapes.  
 I posted my last message before I listened to the tapes, and I am sorry to say
that something is dreadfully wrong.  The Levels got screwey on my DAT deck and
kept cycling between maxxed (i.e. screeeech) and set to 0 (i.e. silence)
Go figure, the meters showed a consistent green the whole time, but the
recording says otherwise.  Time to get the thing checked out.

Sorry to all of those who wanted a copy.
-Jeff
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From: Marc Rouleau <mer6g@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Subject: message misdeliveries!
Reply-To: mer6g@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:14:24 GMT

Dear Clarkson University Postmasters,

I have dozens of messages like this in my mailbox.  Note the delay at
omnigate.  There are two messages, both destined for

    rizzojp@logic.camp.clarkson.edu

which have each been bounced repeatedly back to dead-heads and dead-flames,
which are each *large* distribution lists.  In fact, everything on
dead-flames gets posted to rec.music.gdead!

    -- Marc Rouleau, UVa Academic Computing

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From: ecec@quads.uchicago.edu (Eric Cabot)
Subject: Re: Big Big <sigh>
Reply-To: ecec@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:15:11 GMT

REB,
  I tried to cross post our thread to alt.round.and.round.and.round
but it bounced.  
  Oh well.

Eric


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From: ryanp@lclark.edu (Ryan Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Halloween?
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:28:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Aug20.212806.16181
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

So all previously scheduled shows have been canceled. Does anyone know where
this leaves us? I remember reading a net rumor that Halloween shows at the
Oakland Coiliseum would be the first shows after the fall tour, but that was
before Jerry got sick.Phil's message on the hotline says they hope to be
playin' with Jerry by the end of the year. Does this mean the boys are planning
to be back in time for halloween in Oakland? Does anyone have the "inside word"
or even a good educated guess? I was so excited for Veneta, I need shows to l
look forward to.
					peace,
					      Matt.
From: finkel@sdi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Does Garcia have an obligation?
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:21:52 CDT
Organization: Systems by Design of Illinois (SDI), Chicago

In article <Aug.12.14.49.50.1992.16273@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, pfein@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Peter Fein) writes:
> 
<...
> Does Jerry have an obigation to stay healthy and keep the band
> going strong especially since they keep those tours coming.
> 
> This is just my thought.  I would like to hear some constructive
> crtisism on this.  But if you feel you must flame me do it civily.
> 
> "Let there be songs to fill the air"
> Pete
> pfein@gandalf.rutgers.edu




	For pete's sake! Let Jerry be Jerry!

	Peace, Joel

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From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Subject: Re: A net.get.well card for Jerry?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:11:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.152216.14244@nntp.uoregon.edu> nsax.uoregon (Norma Sax) writes:
>Count me in.

Yeah.... me too.  How should we go about this?

-jg


>
>norma sax


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Phydeaux <reb@ingres.com>
Subject: cancel fall tour?
Reply-To: reb@ingres.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:43:39 GMT


tomw@astro.umd.edu writes:
|so should the fall tour be cancelled? would the dead be the dead 
|without jerry?
...
|so i think the dead should go on with the fall tour...they're 
|professionals.  maybe
|they could persuade henry kaiser to fill in for jerr...
|
|so whadda ya think?

I think you  need  to figure  out how to  get your text editor to fill
columns ;-) ;-) ;-)

Seriously,  I'd have no  problem with  this  idea --  Not henry Kaiser
though.  How about  someone  like Steve Kimock  (from Zero) ?   On the
whole, though, I think this would be a relatively unpopular idea.

				reb
From: burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Burnett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Deadicated Comments
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:31:48 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug19.124833.29902@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood) writes:

> Actually, I'm surprised nobody mentioned Dwight Yoakam's Bakersfield
> twang version of "Truckin'", but his definitive version was at RFK
> last year, complete with two verses full of imitation Bob Weir f*ck-ups!*-)

IMHO, Dwight Yoakam rules.  "And it's ... guitars and cadillacs and
hillbilly music ...!"

> Now, here's another question:  If you were the producer of DEADICATED II,
> what artists would you choose for any particular Dead song and why? 
> One matchup to get the ball rolling:  Leon Russell - "High Time"

Ah, a dream of mine:  R.E.M. doing Mountains of the Moon.  Don't know
if anyone else can imagine it, but it's been playing clearly in
my head for some time.

--Gary B.
-- 
Gary Burnett                             burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu 
130 Columbia Street                      gburnett@zodiac.rutgers.edu   
Highland Park, NJ  08904                          jera@well.sf.ca.us

"Things then did not delay in turning curious."  --Thomas Pynchon  
 
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From: Kevin Meyer <meyer@stat.ncsu.edu>
Subject: Santana, Starship, et al.  8-22-92 in Utah
Reply-To: meyer@stat.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:09:26 GMT

                       "Livestock 92"
         Santana, B.T.O., Foghat, Jefferson Starship
                Under the Gun, Edgar Winter
performing Saturday August 22 in a horse field (watch your
step) 20 miles south of Salt Lake City.
Ticket price = $6   (yeah, that's a six)


Just saw the poster on a wall at the U of Utah a few minutes
ago.  Sounds like an attractive alternative (remember, they
have beautiful mountains in Utah!  (I think it made it up to
77 degrees at Alta yesterday.    Too bad I have to head back
to the NC jungle on Friday.))

Have fun wherever, take care, and aim that good Kharma in
Jerry's direction,

Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: moffitt@chopin.udel.edu (Curtis Moffitt)
Subject: Re: St. Stephen music structure (was Re: Questions for musicologists)
Keywords: musical analysis alert
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:41:55 GMT

In article <l8m02aINNn1j@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> duane@thismoment.Corp.Sun.COM (Duane Day) writes:
>I don't hear it in D major, I hear it in E mixolydian.  It starts and ends
>on E - do you folks really hear D or A as the tonic?
>
No, I think E is definately the tonic too  now that I think about it...

>Looking at it this way, E D A E is   I  IV-of-IV  IV  I.  The "IV-of-IV"
>is what I think of as a secondary sub-dominant, analogous to the secondary
>dominant "V-of-V".  It's not at all common in "classical" music but it's
>an absolute cornerstone of rock.  (cf.  "Gloria", "Fortunate Son", "I Know
>You Rider").  Some prefer to call the IV-of-IV a bVII, which is also correct 
>but which obscures the cadential relationship.

Now THIS explanation (I will stick my neck out and say) is definately
right on the money.  Nice one Duane.

>In general, the sub-dominant to tonic progression or plagal cadence
>plays a much bigger role in rock than in classical.  Hence, the concept
>of secondary sub-dominants is as valid in rock analysis as the concept
>of secondary dominants is for classical analysis.
>
Yes, the IV - I cadence is the basis for the blues and blues theory.
And, of course, rock evolved from the blues....  This very common cadence,
like the  V - IV - I pervades rock so much that I could probably fill
a file of pages and pages of songs with this standard rock move  :-)

>>...but if it's in A your progression is V IV I your 
>> right, but your also wrong because thats not a common progression, 
>
>Again, perhaps not in classical music but it is fairly common in rock.
>(cf. "Werewolves of London", which is nothing but V IV I for the entire 
>song.)

I used to play  Werewolves->Sweet home alabama->Werewolves->.... back and
forth with no problem and used to blow peoples minds...
Also, another is   Louie,Louie->Wild Thing->Louie,Louie->.....  same idea.

Later, Curt
Another .sig:
******* Imagine Jerry Garcia saying, "What's Mixolydian?" ******


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From: appleyar@bnr.ca (Doug Appleyard)
Subject: gd hour in rtp, n.c.
Keywords: gd hour, huh?, when
Reply-To: appleyar@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Research Triangle Park, NC, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:09:39 GMT

Here in Raleighwood, N.C. I flipped on trusty ole 93.9
WZZU at 10:55 p.m. on Sunday 8/9 to catch the Dead hour.
What do I hear but the very last strains of Quinn The Eskimo.
Seems the show started at 10:00 instead of 11:00.  Has it been 
moved permanently or was this a fluke?

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=- appleyar@bnr.ca -=-=-=-=-=-=- warning: not the views of bnr inc. =-
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From: ryaker@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Richard Yaker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Deadicated II Wishlist
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:05:42 GMT
Organization: Amdahl

The Spin D
-- 
 Doctors Playing Deep Elem Blues
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From: cd018@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alvin Kienming Liau)
Subject: Dead Ties
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:59:10 GMT


Hi! I just heard about the Grateful Dead ties being
sold by Bloomingdales in NY. Where can I buy one in good
old Columbus, Ohio?

E-mail reply'll be great.

alvin
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From: rademaew@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION: GARCIA'S HEALTH
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:42:43 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

After a long discussion on this topic with friends over the weekend,
i promised that I'd try to introduce this topic for NET discussion.
Before I begin, let me state a few facts:

1. I do not smoke, I smoked for about one year and quit 
2. I am not a smoking "basher," per se, but do hassle people about it
from time to time. Sort of in the way that Phil rips on Jerry about it
in the press every now and then...


Ok, with that out of the way:


A few friends of mine and I discussed Jerry's health over the weekend.
We talked a lot about how hard it would probably be for Garcia to give
up smoking given his statements about it in the past. We also talked about
how it seemed that all smoke (you can fill in the blank here) would be
detremental to Jerry's condition/future health.

At this point, we all sort of wondered how Jerry was going to be able to
easily give up smoking and keep his lungs relatively clean at INDOOR VENUES.
We all know that those places can tend to collect a ton of smoke, legal and
otherwise, even though "no smoking" is supposedly enforced. It occured to
me that playing indoor venues would 1) make it more difficult for Jerry to
quit simply because of all the smoke around him (ie temptation) and 2) might
be detremental to his overall health due to second hand smoke. 

We then proceeded to a discussion about second hand smoke (dominated by a 
pre med person) and the temptation to smoke at shows (dominated by people who
had quit).


WHERE ALL THIS IS GOING IS: (and the topic I'd like us to discuss)

SHOULD WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO ELIMINATE ALL TYPES OF SMOKING AT INDOOR
VENUES??????? WOULD THIS OR WOULD THIS NOT HELP GARCIA????? CAN WE
ACCOMPLISH SUCH A TASK???

It seems to me that if we can band together to send a get well card, maybe
we should discuss banding together to help Garcia's current and future health.


MY OPINION:  I think that trying to eliminate smoking in indoor venues might
be next to impossible. I'm pretty convinced that doing so would help Garcia,
but I'm not sure we could do it without being accused of all kinds of things.
However, smoking is illegal in indoor venues. But that never stopped me when I
was younger, so... 

i'm starting to ramble (or rambled through this whole thing), so I'll put
it to you folks. if you need to flame me, go ahead, but dont expect that 
you'll get flamed back. i'd prefer we dont war, its just a topic to
discuss. THIS MIGHT BE A WAY WE CAN GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO THE BAND, AND
TO GARCIA. or not, you decide.


thoughts, suggestions, ideas, flames ???????????????????????

Peace!

!eric!