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From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: Omnitel modem and Procomm 2.1
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:56:17 GMT

Hey there, I've recently bought (for junker price) an IBM compatible
(Sinclair professional series, PC 500) and a modem (from another soul,
who actually gave it to me...an Omnitel 1200 baud).  I have PROCOMM 2.1
and I'm having troubles in getting the modem to connect to systems.
 
I have the parity (etc) set okay for the system, it's just not
connecting.  It'll dial, it'll start the "handshaking", but no complete
connection.  I'm guessing it might be the pin settings on the modem, but
I'm not sure.  I didn't receive a manual with the thing (the friend who
gave it to me lives in another city).  
 
Could someone with knowledge (or, about equally beneficial, the manual)
please help me get this thing revving into cyberspace?
 
...e

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From: plim@hpsgwp.sgp.hp.com (Peter Lim)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:59:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Lantastic 4.1 AI Low-Level Drivers
Organization: HP Singapore IC Design Ctr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

What about AI-driver for Western Digital's Elite-Combo 16 ethernet card.
I had no luck asking about this few months ago. Has my luck changed?

Thanks in advance for any info.


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From: jlewis@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: IBM Parallel port Bi_Directional
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:20:33 GMT

I need information on the IBM PC,XT,AT,etc. parallel ports.  I know that
they can be made bidirectional but can't find any information on this.
Does anyone know (or have) any information?  I need pinouts, pin explanations
, timing, software examples, software direction controls, etc....

Anything is better than what I have currently.....


Thanks...

Jeff Lewis   -  JLEWIS@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
From: jeff@adx.adelphi.edu (Jeffery Storch)
Subject: HHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keywords: adaptec floppy
Organization: Adelphi University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:22:16 GMT

I have a problem:
	My floppy drives do not work like they are supposed to.

EX.
	When I copy files from my floppy drive OR install software from
floppies while my machine is at it's top speed, I get random errorsin
the copied files or the install program dies.

	I have found a temporary solution... I have lowered my processor
speed from 20 Mhz to 16Mhz and all works fine, but I do not want to keep
the processor @16Mhz

	I have an adaptec 1542B w/ a Maxtor 8760S and a 1.2 & 1.44
floppies. my motherboard is a 386/20DX.

ANY SOLUTION WOULD BE HELPFUL!!!!!!!

	Thanx,
	  Jeffrey Storch
	  jeff@adx.adelphi.edu


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From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Subject: Re: How standard is hardware flow control?
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 16:45:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.181222.5443@tvnews.tv.tek.com> dougs@tvnews.tv.tek.com (Doug Stevens) writes:

EEEK! Someone from Oregon... home of those hateful
Springfielders :)

>We need to be able to operate to 115 Kbaud and transfer binary data. Does
>anyone know whether packages that operate at this speed and do binary transfer
>(LapLink and Commute come to mind as examples) use hardware flow control?
>Do any packages use xon/xoff to do this?

There are non-AT UARTs which handle the handshaking at the
hardware level (the old 6850 comes to mind).  In the PC world,
the handshaking has to be done via software.  Since the system
may be busy with some other task when the interrupt comes in
to service the input FIFO, it may take a while before the
hardware handshaking can be toggled... not a well though-out
design, but then again 9600baud was hot back in the 80s.

Laplink is very creative in their communications SW... I
suspect that they use a combination of simple interrupt
routines (maybe even a polling routine), large RAM buffers,
and hardware handshaking if a 6 conductor cable is used
instead of the 3.  They probably guarantee that they can
service the UART faster than the data arrives and place the
data in a large RAM buffer.  When the driver senses that the
buffer is almost full, it probably operates the hardware
handshake and allows the buffer task to swing in a fresh
buffer.  There are a few laplink-like public domain programs
that I've seen on BBSes... you might be able to check around
for the source code to see what they really do.

>The statement has been made that many communication packages commonly used on 
>the PC have no provision for dealing with hardware flow control. How true is 
>this? 

All of my BBS software has the capability of flow control.  I
run a FOSSIL and FrontDoor as my primary communications
package, with my USR Dual it requires at least 38400baud with
hardware handshake and a 16550 (especially with multitasking).
If I was transferring uncompressed data, the channel should be
57,600 to be more efficient (especially with ZMODEM which just
sends and asks questions later).  

What with the new v.fast and/or 28.8kbs standards coming
along, it is a good thing IBM is championing the new 600Kbaud
serial standard.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: Re: 486SX-33, any good??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:53:34 GMT

dregeczi@fraser.sfu.ca (David Joseph Regeczi) writes:

>gtj@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Glenn T Jayaputera) writes:

>>I am planning to buy 486SX-33 (yes SX!).  One of the major drawback is, it 
>>has got no external cache.  However, suprisingly the landmark speed is the
>>same as DX-33.  My concern is how important the external cache to the 
>>speed of the system?

>>Has anybody  got a bad experience with such a motherboard??

>>The other option I have is Sx-25.  This one has 64K static internal cache.
>>Its landmark speed is slower thatn SX-33, but since it has 64K external cache
>>would the overall performance would be equal or better than SX-33 without
>>external cache?

>>My last concern is, the SX-33 uses 'MR. BIOS' Bios :-(    I never heard of
>>such a brand, and very concern about that.  Has anybody got experience with
>>this 'MR.BIOS' Bios??

>>Thank you in advance
>>Glenn Jayaputera

>Never, NEVER buy an SX machine.  Basically this chip _is_ the 486DX chip but
>it has the math processor "cut out" and has other limitations.  The other 
>limitation placed on an SX machine is that you have a 32 bit processor locked
>into a 16 bit bus.  You're loosing processor power for no reason at all.  Go

Good try but, no cigar!  The only SX 16 bit bus is the 386SX.  Intel really
screwed up with the 486SX because it is amazing how many people I've seen post
about the 486SX having a 16 bit bus because of the SX tag.

Later,
Todd


>with the DX and save yourself some speed.  The price savings is not worth an
>SX.


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From: beaudoin@ireq-robot.hydro.qc.ca (Martin Beaudoin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Cheap passive AT bus backplane
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:03:47 GMT
Organization: Le laboratoire de robotique de l'Institut de recherche
	d'Hydro-Quebec

We are going to upgrade one of our 386 industrial PC with a 486. This
mean that I have a single board 386 PC that I could use for light
work in my office. 

I am looking for a cheap way to build a system around that card. I
need a passive AT bus backplane (6 or 8 slots max.), an enclosure with
power supply, fan, keyboard, etc.

I would rather not buy an industrial chassis because they tend to cost
more thant regular PC/AT chassis.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:22454 sci.electronics:14747
From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: What is the difference between DX and SX?
Date: 23 Aug 92 04:20:28 GMT
Organization: Boo!

In <RVTVPB2w165w@bp1742.UUCP> bytehead@bp1742.UUCP (Bryan Price) writes:

>gerry@bluemoon.rn.com (Gerard M. Foley) writes:

>The 486DX2 is a 486DX with a clock multiplier builtin to make
>internal machinations occur twice as fast as they normally would. 
>This gives you an increase in performance without an increase in the
>cost of the support circuitry.  This chip is fully pin-compatible and
>replaces any existing 486DX.  There fore, a company can design a
>33MHZ 486DX system, and with the change of a chip (and a heat sink,
>the chip get's extremely hot) can then sell it as a 66MHZ system. 
>Currently, the only OverDrive chips as Intel calls them are for DX
>systems, so trying to run a 486DX2 in a machine that has a 486SX,
>just ain't going to work.  Intel obviously has the technology to do
>it, it's a matter of whether they will or not.

Uh, Intel's first overdrive chips, which were made available earlier
this year, were expressly designed for the 486SX.  I'm not even sure
that Intel has yet released overdrive chips designed for DX machines.
(though if they haven't they shortly will for 25 Mhz and 33 Mhz DX
machines).  As of the last time, I looked, the overdrive chips available
were for the OverDrive sockets of 486SX 16-, 20-, and 25-MHz systems
(or, as an alternate, OverDrive replacement chips for systems with no
extra sockets).  

Greg 
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From: shiv@cs.man.ac.uk (Shiv Sikand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Help: Anyone heard of BOS ?
Summary: Business operating system
Keywords: BOS
Date: 12 Aug 92 08:58:02 GMT

Can anyone help me with this ?

I am trying to recover a large amount of data from a database program that
runs under BOS (Business Operating System) without much luck. It runs on a
PC-XT and has it's own partitions etc...


Anybody heard of this operating system and know about it's file formats
etc?

Thanks.

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From: howard@micromed.com (howard huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Hard Drive Recommendations
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 11:00:31 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic  - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

barkerb@slab.unt.edu (BOB BARKER) writes:

> I'm in the market for an additional hard drive and would like some 
> recommendations from those in the know.  Right now, I have a 120 meg HD (
> Panasonic I think - it came with the machine and has been a good one) and 
> would like another drive of approximately the same size.  If anyone has any 
> recommendations, caveats, places to buy, or otherwise, I would appreciate 

I've been using a Maxtor 7120A for a few months with no problems.  Got it 
for around $300, but you need to check out what type your drive is (ie 
IDE, SCSI) because the 7120A is IDE.  I think the 7120S is SCSI.  
Anyways, the 7120A can be formatted to 130 mb (with the right jumper 
settings) and can be had for less than $300 at some places.  15 ms access 
time and a 64kb buffer help to make it pretty fast, too.  

Howard H
From: pjangli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Philip Anglin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Conner / Maxtor IDE drive incompatibilities?
Keywords: ide conner maxtor hard disk
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:35:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond

Does anyone out there know the jumper settings
for setting up a Maxtor 7120A IDE disk as a
master/slave?  Also, does anyone know of any
incompatibilities between this drive and the
Conner CP30104H drive?  I am trying to put
both drives in my system.  Each works by itself,
but together they hang the system (with the
Maxtor as master).

Thanks in advance,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: s_fuller@iastate.edu (Steve Fuller)
Subject: ALR Business/VEISA help needed
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:27:17 GMT

I have recently purchased a used Busines VEISA made by ALR. The
machine is a 33 MHz 386 with an 80387. When I run Norton sysinfo
on the machine, I get a speed rating of >>12.3<< This doesn't
seem quite right to me as the Compaq DeskPro 386-33 rates around,
I believe 28 or so. The machine itself is set to high speed via
the CMOS setup, and slowing it down with the Ctrl "+" key combo
makes it drop to 25 MHz speed and a sysinfo rating of >>2.1<<!

So, in short, doesn anyone know anything about this machine and
even better have a solution for the problem??? The only manual
that came with the machine is the User's guide, and is about as
not even worth the paper it's printed on. 

Any help is, as allways, most appreciated.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Subject: 60nSec memory - Will 486/33 be faster?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:54:12 GMT
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation

Will a 486/33 be faster with 60nSec memory over 70 or 80nSec memory, assuming
the data required is not in cache memory.

How does the CPU wait state tie into this?

Regards,
Mike palmer
Telephone: (305) 797-2326 (W)   (305) 7546-3146 (H)
From: abradfor@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Andrew S Bradford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Extra memory problem
Summary: I want my two megs
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:49:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

A couple months ago I bought a clone mail-order for work on a particular
project of mine. Since then I've discovered that I need two megs to work
with, instead of the one meg that I ordered. So, I got myself some simms
and popped 'em in, and...they aren't being recognized.

I have a 386-40 motherboard, not sure of the original manufacturer, but
the manual calls it a FS3 Main Board. The bios is AMI. I have two banks
of 256x9 simms (the 3-chip kind). The manual claims that nothing needs
to be done to the motherboard to get it to recognize different
configurations of memory.

I've switched the two banks with the same results, so it doesn't seem to
be a problem with the chips. I've also fiddled with the settings in the
bios to no avail. There is one bios setting in the manual, "Fast Gate A20",
which looks interesting, but it is curiously missing from the bios setup
screens.

I have had some bad luck related to getting in touch with the outfit I
bought the machine from (most of it not related to them), and will try
again as I am able, but in the meantime, is there anything obvious I
should be looking for?

Andrew
(email is good, but I'll try to keep up with this newsgroup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mo@gizmo.bellcore.com (Michael O'Dell)
Subject: is this the right group....
Keywords: 
 
Reply-To: mo@bellcore.com
Organization: Center for Chaotic Repeatabilty
Distribution: world 
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 13:28:16 GMT

looking for a group where one can discuss various clone-building
experiences. in particuarly, who has the hot motherboards and
what are their known problems? whose boards are VLBUS and whose
are pretenders?  am interested in the kind of info you get out
of Computer Reseller.....

	-mo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: Re: Mag Monitors - Quality?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 23:30:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.194014.1121@datascope.com> jld@datascope.com (Jay L. Davis) writes:
>In article <4385@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum) writes:
>>In article <venable.101@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu> 
>>venable@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu (Wallace Venable) writes:
>>
>>>	One day my (smaller) MAG went sssspt and blanked out.   I called, 
>>>got an RMA, and they did a quick (about 7 day) turn around for about $100.
>>>I think I had had it a bit over a year.
>>
>>I received a private email message from a user who ordered 3 17" MAGs;
>>he reports that one was DOA and the others have shadowy problems unless
>>he fiddles with the contrast. The more of these I hear about, the more
>>I'm inclined away from MAG and toward Nanao or NEC. While $100 and 7
>>days isn't unreasonable, I expect a monitor to last more than a year
>>before this type of repair is necessary.
>>
>
>I bought the 17F about 2 months ago and haven't had any problems. It
>is a very impressive monitor. Howevery, long term reliability is another
>issue. I'll have to wait and see.
>
I've had mine for 6 months, so far no  problems.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: eckert@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com
Subject: Re: Gateway Telepath....does it work?
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:37:33 GMT

In article <1533@dg.dg.com>, greene@sequoia.webo.dg.com (Jon Greene) writes:
> Has Gateway successfully addressed the Telepath's problems?  The price is right and I'd love to get one, but not until there is a consensus that
My just received Telepath has connected to 2 High speed modems (all I could
 quickly get to and 2 different FAX'es.  However 
I cannot get Corsstalk to work.  It sends out the ATZ then then the
computer is hung!  Works fine with PROCOMM. 
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From: senol@caroline.ee.pitt.edu (Senol Kucuk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Power Supply Query...
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:04:08 GMT
Reply-To: Senol.Kucuk@caroline.ee.pitt.edu
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Pittsburgh, Department of Electrical Engineering,
	Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Lab.
X-Md4-Signature: d603bac9202bf2196fe4db834ce83460


	Howdy. I'd like to use an older (PC type case) power supply
with a relatively new 286 AT motherboard. However, the power supply I
got has no -5V output. Just wondering if the -5V input is really
necessary for the AT motherboard. Thanks in advance...
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From: lapena@athena.cs.uga.edu (Chito Lapena)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 0xa0000
Date: 16 Aug 92 00:48:59 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


Hello again, all,
I am needing to use 64k bytes of memory address space. I was advised
to use the space starting from 0xa0000 to 0xaffff. When I try out
these addresses, however, I am actually able to write to maybe the 
first 256 bytes of the space and read the numbers back 
(but noty without complaint).

My question is if I build a device that will yield its memory to calls to 
this space, will I have a bus crash at some point? Where are those first
256 bytes physically located? Could that be a shadow of something?

thanks

-chito
lapena@athena.cs.uga.edu
From: seldner@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: How much is RAM in the States?
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:21:43 GMT
Organization: Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe (Germany)

I was asked to post a summary. I got quite a few replies, all telling
me that the price varies from $ 27 to 35 for 1M x 9 70 ns SIMMs. The 
following message is representative for the other ones (the chip for $27
was from Chip Merchant, so maybe they changed the price in the meantime):

> From: rglew@THUNDER.LAKEHEADU.CA
> 
> >The subject lines says it. I'm thinking of getting maybe 4 MB RAM.
> >Can anyone tell me what price to expect?
> 
> The Chip Merchant in San Diego has 4M x 9 60ns Goldstar SIMMS for $120 cash
> or $123.50 Visa/MC.  Also they have 1M x 9 70ns 3 chip SIMMS for $28.
> 
> Cycad Microsystems in San Jose sell 4M x 9 60ns NEC SIMMS for $130 Visa/MC.
> 
> 
> Chip Merchant
> Phone (619) 268-4774   fax (619) 268-0874
> 
> Cycad Microsystems
> Phone (408) 436-4843   fax (408) 436-9780
> 
> R. Glew

Thanks again to everyone who responded!

dave
seldner@hdi3sun.kfk.de
From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Color PostScript printer?
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:07:15 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER

I am looking for a color PostScript printer that does 11x17 and uses thermal
wax.  I am thinking about either QMS, CalComp, or Seiko.  Does anyone have any
comments on them?  Thanks.  

Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.periphs
From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: Are Seagate drives any good ?
Organization: USGS, Atlantic Marine Geology, Woods Hole, MA.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:39:07 GMT

Hello all,
	I have an old Packard Bell with a Seagate in it from 1987 and it
has been doing fine, even after the computer fell to the floor when my
table broke (the drive heads were NOT parked) and it's still doing fine!
			Cheers,
				Marinna

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