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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:16:43 EST
From:         Gary M Gettier <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Got some good mail today...

Got some good mail today, postal mail that is...

1) CD Connection catalog on disk...disk*s*, actually - 2 HD 3.5's.
   It exploded to around 8 Megs!!!! Jeezus!

   If you wanna save a phone call, ask me first, I can tell ya if they got
   what ya want. I can't imagine they don't though.

   Also included is a list (huge!) of record companies and their addresses
   and phone numbers.

   Omigod!!! One bad thing. Caps! CAPS! CAPS!! Everything is in all CAPS!
   All the CD Listings, everything! Gotta do sumthin' about that.

   It'll take me days to look through these listings.

2) My Rik Emmett CD (_Ipso Facto_) finally came. Only took $25, 3 months,
   and 2 long distance phone calls (to Canookie land). Remind me to never
   order anything from a Canadian record company again.

3) I responded to a classified ad in _Rolling Stone_. (no, I don't subscribe)
   I sent away for a catalog of rare CDs, atleast that's what I thought I
   did. I get this thing today from BARRY PUBLICATIONS in Brooklyn, New York.
   They want me to send them $5, and they will send me info on how to get
   free albums, tickets, etc. from audio industries. They claim they're so
   good at it (getting free stuff) that they, at one time, had to throw stuff
   away because they had so much. Now, they are sharing with the rest of us.

   Are these guys full of it? I know there's lots of promotional stuff out
   there, for record stores and radio stations et al, but.....

   Tell me what you think.

-  My site has been having some serious mail problems today (Jan 4). If you
   sent me any private stuff (compilation tape) it may have bounced and I
   didn't get it. I don't have problems sending mail. You may have to resend.

Seeya,
Gary
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From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: New Thread....

Paul Lists as waste of vinyl.....
>Huey Lewis - Fore (totally forgettable)

But Paul! There's an a cappella track on there! ("Naturally") How can that
be bad!!!! :-)

Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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From:         Hosko <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE:One-hit wonders

>Wow! I'll play!
>
>How about:
>
>Dexy's Midnight Runners: "Come On Eileen"
>Men Without Hats: "Safety Dance"
>Baltimora: "Tarzan Boy"
>Saga: "On the Loose"
>Kajagoogoo: "Too Shy"
>The Men: "Church of Logic, Sin, and Love"  -a prediction-
>
>Heather

Wasn't _Come On Eileen_ Dexy's second hit? And, didn't they have a third
hit that was taken fron their _To-rye-eye_ (spelling?) album?

I suppose someone has to mention them sometime -
    The Casuals - Rhythm of the Rain
    Ann Peebles - I Can't Stand The Rain (She did also have a minor hit
                    with _I'm Gonna Tear Your Playhouse Down_ but I'm
                    gonna ignore that)
- one-rain-wonder songs.

Damn! I didn't want to get involved with this topic.

Hosko
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:28:40 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Crimson's middle album (widened)

On Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:19:16 EST Ilia said:
>
>Well, it surely is a matter of taste, but I never really thought of
>_In The Court Of The Crimson King_ the way I think about later albums.
>It contains a lot of interesting (more or less) innovations, such as
>extensive use of 'traditional' instruments on, say, "Epitaph", or a
>long 'free' jam on "Moonchild", but generally, it is not nearly
>as original as the things Crimson did some two years later. _In The

Possibly, but I must inform you that when it came out, late '69-ish/early
'70-ish, there was absolutely nothing like it on the scene.  Oh, the mellotrons
could remind one of Moody Blues. . . in the same way that a Mozart string
quartet reminds one of Ravel, right!  Otherwise, it was *totally* different.
Different in tonality, different in conception, different in layout--I can't
*begin* to tell you how different this album sounded to all of us good ol' boys
back in the days of wine and acid (-:
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:29:57 EST
From:         spideroni <REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: One-hits (Rev. Dave)

and likewise, you'd have to discount saga as well who had a minor hit off
of the album following _worlds apart_ (though i can't for the life of me
remember what the song was...the album was _heads or tails_).

now there's a band who's gone downhill. their first four albums (though
_worlds apart_) were interesting and well-crafted, if not notable, rock.
great guitar work. _heads or tails_ was a bit of an excursion into the
more poppy side of rock, but it had a few good tunes. _behaviour_ followed
which is a wonderful, arty album with lots of introspective and strange
songs. following that album, they switched over to atco records and
promptly fell apart. _wildest dreams_ saw the band reduce itself to
schlockly pop stuff, which while hook-laden, was ultimately quite a waste.
i think they released one other album after that, but i never even bothered.

woj
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:49:57 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Sunday morning & lousy lyrics

Hendrik threads....
>
>Well, is this an idea for a new thread, or what?  What is the worst sentence
>or piece of lyrics you ever heard (in music, of course :-)?

Although I love the song, I've always thought the silliest thing I ever
heard in a song is in Queen's "We Are The Champions" when they cram in:

"You've brought me fame-and-fortune-and-everything-that-goes-with-it...."

It just sounds so silly!

Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:46:31 EST
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Alice in Chains

Last night I heard something on the radio I liked and wondered if you could
provide some info on the band ... "Them Bones" from _Dirt_ by Alice in
Chains.  Mutated blues/metal foundation with a froth of psychdelic/speed/metal
riding on top of the waves.  I LIKED it.   I know nothing at all about this
band.  What should I know?

David Malbuff put the Guitar Players List in its place as far as I'm concerned.

Sonia
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:08:42 EST
From:         SWASEY@PORTLAND.BITNET
Subject:      Re: What did ya listen to

This morning I listened to The Beatles, Let it Be CD, which is odd,
because I haven't really listened to my Beatles CD's in over a year.
But last night, I listened to Kate Bush, Sensual World; Bob Marley,
Legend; and Elvis Costello--I think it is The Best of.....

I got REM's new CD for xmas.  I am always impressed by REM.
They are a really good band that constantly evolves, but not
necessarily changing in a negative way.  When I listen to their
old stuff I  get newly impressed and charged by it, but then
their new stuff, however different, is also wonderful.  Nightswimming
is one of the best songs I've heard in a long time.  Anyways,
I think it is a really neat thing to experience the evolution
of a band and I guess that REM has been that kind of experience
for me since I started listening to them before they actually
"made it big" and have been able to observe how they have changed.
Automatic For the People is something I have been listening to
a lot lately.


janet
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:05:14 -0500
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      tape deck

  I've located the problem with the tape-eating tape deck: the "driving"
spindle, ie. the spindle that turns when in PLAY mode, stops occasionally.
It's sticking somehow.  The pinch roller keeps going, and munch goes the
tape.  I've lubricated some things I thought might need it, but still
the damn thing just stops spinning.  Any helpful ideas?

  (I had to NOMAIL since Thursday, so all I got on this subject was to
clean the capstan/pinch roller, which has been done).

Russ
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:36:18 CET
From:         SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Free country?? I'd beg to differ...

>
>all this talk about powerdrills and chainsaws,
>

Just before christmas a large (the largest so far in fact) anti-fascist concert
in Germany was held in Frankfurt. Although most of the music was pretty
mainstream (Scorpions, Westernhagen, etc) there was one highlight, for me
at least. F.M.Einheit from Einsturzende Neubaten played with his band, Gruppe
Stein which features two members of the Rainbirds. The piece began with a
grand piano being played both conventionally and by hitting the strings with
a small stick. F.M.Einheit then proceeded to pick up a power drill and a
piece of rock with a microphone taped to it. He then proceeded to vibrate
the drill chuck against the stone producing an extremely musical deep buzz
which fitted in well with the piano accompaniment. But only for a while and
then went to his normal role of percussion. All in all the best performance
of the day.

Seb

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:16:53 EST
From:         8 megs of CDs <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      It's gettin' late

Triple M starts early for the '93 award:

>Here's a thread for ya:  For those who watch MTV and hate it, what
>videos would you like to see on there to give MTV a kick in the ass?

Any early Metallica tunes. They should have done some videos for them songs.
"One" is one of the best videos, ever. But, now they are putting out this
cheese. The only new video of theirs I liked was for "The Unforgiven", and
I don't really understand it.

...damn, they coulda had some really killer videos for songs like "Master
Of Puppets", "Leper Messiah", "Disposable Heroes", "Creeping Death"

I also think MTV should expand their "120 minutes" and "Headbanger's Ball,"
shoot all the VJs they have now, get rid of all their silly cartoons and
ridiculous game shows, dance shows and soap operas, and just play videos like
they used to. It was *OK* back when they did that, wasn't it?

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From:         RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      The boy is back in town

>Can someone give me some info on Primus?

Hmmm...well there's 3 guys in the band. Les Claypool plays a killer bass, and
also does the vocals....

>What are the
>best CDs to look for by them. All I've seen in the stores so far is _Sailing
>The Seas of Cheese_. Is that representative?

Well you got me there. I just picked up _STSOC_. Only listened to it
once but it's some wacky shit. I think some of their other albums are called
_Frizzle Fry_ and _Suck On This_. I think that Rev. Bob (my pick for the
sexiest ALLMUSICer) is the resident Primus nut.

>I can't find Praxis!! I'm going
>nuts over these reviews you guys keep posting, but I can't find the dang thing
>anywhere!

It just so happens that.....POOF!

POL512338 * $11.80 PRAXIS  TRANSMUTATION (MUTATIS MUTANDI) POLYGRAM 09/92

CD Connection has this. (See what I mean about the all CAPS! I've got 8 megs
of this!)

I'm not positive they deliver to the Great White North, perhaps the chrome-
plated one can tell us for sure. The modem number is (212) 532-4045.

Oh, wait....POOF!

  .  Shipping to destinations in Canada via US Mail is $8.50(US) plus 30
     cents for each item shipped.

Just found this....bummer. You'd have to order several CDs before it would
be worth your while. But hey, they have everything!

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From:         Adam Levin <Adam.Levin@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Who would you choose?

>Isn't Gary from Texas? Have you heard any news?

No, actually, I'm from Balmer, Maryland that is.

Geesh it's late, good thing I'm goin' into work late tomorrow....

Seeya,
Gary
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:25:49 EST
From:         Sportin' a Woodie <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      licking toes

From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024%UABDPO.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:      Copulation Tape..+

>Do you sometimes feel guilty when you copy something, like your ripping off
>the artists, keeping them from some of their royalties. If someone was copying
>your stuff without paying for it, would it bother you. To be honest it kinda
>bothers me sometimes, especially artists that need support. How do you feel.?

No, usually when I make a tape, it's for the purpose of turning someone
onto something else. This can only help out the artist because, the tape
may result in the purchase of the original recording.

>Would it be a good idea to have the "regular"  Allmusic comp tape, plus
>since alot of people would like to send their own "works/masterpieces",
>have a "comp" tape of the Allmusic Artists. I for one would like to get a
>copy of both.

Oh, jeezus, you've got to be kidding!  Please, not right now! Let's just
do the ALLMUSIC comp tape thing now, OK everybody?

Jeez, Len...

>Can anyone recommend some more Hank Crawford..? I have Groove Master and
>another with Mcgriff(sp) I can't recall the name.

Do you mean Fred McGriff "the crime dog"? :-)

>I called Noteworthy months ago and requested a catalog, but i haven't heard
>from them, could someone please send me the number again.

It takes about 2 or 3 weeks, but anyway, 1-800-648-7972.

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From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Apology: One-Hit Wonders

>Laaaaaaadeeeez and Geeeeentlemen! Back, by popular demand - our main
>attraction - a favorite here at the net! Yes, it's true! It's.....
>
>THE CLUELESS NEWBIE!!!!!!!!!!
>
>OK, I'm sorry. I was just trying to help. My head is hung so far in shame
>that I'm currently licking my toenails.
>
>P.S. If anyone is turned on by that, please respond....

YAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO! Lick dem babies!

Don't be so hard on yourself, how could you have known?

Seeya,
Gary, sportin' a woodie now, thanks red
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:19:25 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Boners for Bono

>I didn't like the Bono in a restaurant one --
>it seemed too self-indulgent, like a look-at-me-aren't-I-a-stud-meister
>video...

  I've seen one U2 video from achtung baby.  And Carol's
right.  Bono is really getting off on the sex symbol thang.
What a loser.  He should go back to making political stuff,
instead of selling his own useless bod through his music.
(An interesting twist, though, on most MTV shlock.  Selling
sex appeal through music instead of the reverse.)

                                 -Tim
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:53:58 -0500
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      Gabriel, Haha, regrets

  Peter Gabriel was interviewed on E! tv last night.  "Up Close" I think
the show is called; it's not a bad show.  Interesting, albeit somewhat
boring, talk with PG.  Nice performance clips.  Worth catching if they
re-run it.

  I'd like to throw in a nomination for Sonia for Funny Poster.  She's
made me laugh out loud more than a few times (that atonal cowpoke Johnny
Cage comes to mind).

  My regrets to Marco/TNR wrt. to your upcoming US visit; I'll be (way)
out of town (camping in the mountains).  So, enjoy your visit, and
I hope you (and I) have good weather while you're here.

Russ
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:28:46 EST
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: One-Hit Wonders
              8 Jan 1993 09:34:08 -0500 from <mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>

On Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:34:08 -0500 <mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> said:
>
>How many "one-hit wonders" do you remember. Now, I know you guys don't
>listen to much top-40, but this can be anything. A jazz artist with one
>decent song, a metal group who made a grea album and then was nevcer heard
>from again....Her are some Top-40 examples from my childhood....
>
Oh, God!  No offense, Marsha, but we just did this last year.  What's next,
Rain songs?

-Scott ";^)" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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From: jkh2001@andy.bgsu.edu (King Jeremy the Wicked)
Subject: Re: Elvis may have slept here
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:49:22 GMT

> 
> In the meantime, just know that we've seen no Elvis ghosts around here; no sequ
> ined or spangled spirits.  Just as well too since the "King" is certainly not a
> mong my favorites, but we'll leave that one alone for now.
> 
>                        Renato (Always on the Case) Barahona
Renato,
In order to thoroughly investigate the possibilities of a possible visit by
Elvis to the house, you may want to search carefully for any of the
following:

1)  Large, unexplainable sweat stains on furniture or carpeting.
2)  Empty prescription drug bottles.
3)  Chicken bones or other discarded food items.
4)  Stray sequins.
5)  Naked pictures of Prescilla.
6)  Empty beer cans or liquor bottles.
7)  Voodoo dolls of the Colonel.
8)  Large boxes of women's underwear.
9)  Scripts from really cheesy movies.

If you find any of these items, there is a good chance it's not just a
rumor.

King Jeremy the Wicked (Ha, just when you thought it was safe.)

"Honey, I'm home!!"
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From:         TSEADA@VRIT01.EG
Subject:      Marsha

You always turn me on !!
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From:         Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      i'm goin' down to cali... to cali... to cali...

This is directed at the narly dudes on the west coast... yah know... the
california boys...   :)

Someone on the folk list was mentioning something about an annual Celtic
Festival that's held in San Francisco (imagine that).  Can any of you guys
give me any info on dates and other such necessities.  It would be a great
excuse to visit San Fran and meet Buffman the Bearded and Mike and Mike.

Thanks,
Carol

P.S.  Are there any people on this list (lurkers and all) that are from New
Orleans or pretty familiar with the Big Easy?  If so... write me!
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:57:26 -0500
From:         Hey Buckethead - what's in the bucket man?
              <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      More on Primus

I'm forwarding this post from the heavy metal list WITH permission. This
post is from Ram Samudrala (an ex-ALLMUSICer):

(the song he's referring to is "Here Come The Bastards" by Primus)

begin included message-------------------------------------------

I realised the strangest thing about that song. It has a beautiful
mathematical concept embedded in it. It's actually a mild version of a
"stronge loop". Basically, the base (the main tune througout the song)
is self-referential. So the song is a infinite progression and while
it seems like it ends at the right spot, it really shouldn't end at
all. Isn't that awesome? I believe in musical terms, this is called a
fugue (can really be noticed as the song sort of continues as "Los
Bastardos"), except that this fugue never really ends even though it
seems to end.

Strange that this is the first time I've noticed it in modern music
and it had to be in a thrash song. Bach's "Musical Offering" is the
only other place I know of where this happens (as Hofstadter points
out in his book "Goedel, Escher, Bach").

I wonder if Primus knew this when they composed this song. It means
that they're smarter than they appear.  (:

-----end of included message

Seeya,
Gary
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:54:47 PST
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: MTV

I hate MTV.
But I do like PG's videos, because he does so many bizarre
things in them.

Also, I haven't seen most of them, so it is a neat treat to see
an old video by him, even if it is on MTV.

Kate Bush is also another fave of mine for making obscure videos
with great choreography.  I wish MTV would show more of her stuff,
but, of course, she's not mainstream enough.

Here's a thread for ya:  For those who watch MTV and hate it, what
videos would you like to see on there to give MTV a kick in the ass?

Here's mine:
1.  Peter Gabriel:  No Self Control
2.  Kate Bush:  Running up that Hill, Cloudbusting
3.  The Beatles:  Paperback Writer, Rain (yes, they DO exist)
4.  Pink Floyd:  Welcome to the Machine (killer animation)
5.  any jazz footage from the 1950s and 1960s
6.  "Eleanor Rigby" sequence from _Yellow Submarine_
7.  "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" sequence from _Yellow Submarine_
8.  the complete video of "Strawberry Fields Forever", The Beatles
9.  any WOMAD footage
10. any Genesis with Peter Gabriel footage (pretty weird stuff)
11. any footage of the current UK underground music movement

 3
M
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:26:10 EST
From:         SWASEY@PORTLAND.BITNET
Subject:      Super Shaws!!!

HEY!!  I used to work at a Shaw's in Maine!!  Cool.
It wasn't a Supah Shaws though.  Just a regular grocery store.

janet
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