HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: The Japanese Connection
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:54:54 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
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In <5NOV199217424048@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov> dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes) writes:

>In article <1992Nov5.180452.5096@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, 
>  vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu (vance kochenderfer) writes...

>>_Clinton_Conspiracy_: Clinton should resign his candidacy because he was
>>found to be backed by Sicilian Mafia, IRA, Yakuza and Noriega.

>What?  What about Shining Path, the Illuminati, the Tri-Lateral Commission,
>the PLO, the ANC, the Mexican Mafia, and EDS?


EDS?  Are you sure you don't mean ETS (Educational Testing Services), the
huge intelligence agency that runs is bid for world domination out of
Princeton, NJ  (which it owns lock stock and barrel)?

Don't you find it kind of scary that so many people go to Princeton to be
'educated' and then leave to become prominent members in various governments
and international businesses.  The one question I'm still pondering is: Is
ETS the front door for the Illuminati or is the Illuminati covertly
controled by ETS?


-diversion

"Never believe anything you read" -Malaclypse the Younger
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diverson@phys.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: WW11 over, News at eleven (was forpost-WWll Japanese..)
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 23:58:30 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand
Keywords: it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings


[everything deleted in the interest of brevity]

Wow! World War 11 over!

No one even told me it had started.  What happened to the wars 3 to 10?
Did they go the same way as VO[1-4], varieties 1-56, [1-6]UP etc...

Derek "Which one was World War ll?" Tearne
-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Gender denoting pictograms on restroom doors
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:27:08 GMT
	<BxK4Cz.po@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

In <BxK4Cz.po@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>, Kevin Dooley writes:

>There is a restaurant in Toronto which had, the last time I was there
>at least, two euphemism rooms (water closet, rest room, bathroom,
>salle de bain, whatever your favourite euphemism for toilet is).  The
>first was marked "MEN/WOMEN" and the second "WASHROOM". 
there is one in cambridge, massachusetts(grendel's in  harvard square), which 
has two single-stall you-know whats.  one is labelled "either/or", and the
other, "or/either".
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple)
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:16:05 GMT

In article <Nov.6.23.24.55.1992.28817@math.rutgers.edu> cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar) writes:
>ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham) writes:
>> (Perhaps the theory that AIDS is
>> a man-made disease will spread and become something of a UL
>
>I saw an article about the alienation of the urban black population.
>Among the statistics quoted by the author was a study showing that a
>large minority (~40%, if I remember correctly) believed that AIDS was
>cooked up by the CIA.  I don't remember the source or the exact
>statistics, but maybe this will ring a bell with someone who does.

I've seen a similar stat somewhere.  The theory has been most recently
espoused by noted epidemologist and viral specialist Spike Lee, and the
media's been dutifully reporting his ravings.

>I've heard a theory, espoused mostly by right-wing types, that the
>Soviets (back when there was such country) were actively engaged in
>propaganda to persuade third worlders that AIDS came from the
>laboratories of the CIA.  I've never seen any documentation of this
>particular theory, and the sources I refer to are probably less than
>credible. 

I have seen Actual Communist Propaganda posted in New York (no doubt
by the New York Method (tm)) blaiming AIDS on the US government, 
on posters by the same sort of groups that were complaining that the 
Chinese were being too soft-hearted on the traitors in Tianenmen Square.
Don't know how much the Soviets had to do with these posters, but
post-Gorbachev they have been found to have funded just about every
Communist movement in the US.  But even these folks may have been too
fringe for the KGB.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Question about "T." in James T. Kirk !!!!!! (As seen on TV)
Keywords: We don' nee' no stinkeen' keywords!
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:07:00 GMT
Organization: Will pay money for food.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BxGwLn.HEo@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, 
  bwbrock@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Benjamin Warre Brock) writes...

>Tiberius

 Oh.  What does the "V" stand for?

 - snopes

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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: 1950's Darryle, damnit.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:17:10 GMT

mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
: In article <1992Nov11.063041.25767@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: > 
: > Heh, heh! 100 million people. Yup - good factual reporting. I doubt if they
: > could find 100 million people to vaccinate - much less accomplish the task.
: > Is there any independent documentation besides that reputed article?
: > 
: > Bill
: 
: As there are over 100 million people in Nigeria alone, maybe you should get
: your facts right.  And yes there are widespread vaccination programs going on
: all over the continent.  All it takes is the distribution of vaccines and
: needles to the community nurse/doctor/health worker.

The point was, although not well stated, was that I doubted if they could
infect 100 million people with contaminated vaccine. I question how they 
could produce that much bad vaccine. It would all have to be one or two
batches, or it would have also gone to quite a few other areas of the world.

It is possible. Does anyone have, as I asked for above, any independent
documentation for the claim?

Bill
From: davew@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Legal Tender
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:41:39 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Originator: davew@willow03


In article <1992Nov8.222858.20987@athena.cs.uga.edu>, jordan@castor (USENET's Chuck) writes:
>
> 	I would think that if you make some sort of barter deal with someone,
> and then decide that you want to pay him tens and twenties instead of the
> nice big barrel of cling peaches that you'd promised him, he has a right to
> refuse cash.
>
Hmm, that brings up an interesting point.  Doesn't it say '..all debts, public
and private.'  Not '..all debts of dollars, public and private..'.  So, if
I owe someone some cling peaches (a debt), I can change it to funny little
green bits of paper?  And do we have to re-agree on the exchange rate?

-- 
Dave Wagner                                     Cray Research, Inc
davew@cray.com , uunet!cray!davew               655F Lone Oak Drive
(612) 683-5393                                  Eagan, MN  55121
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From: rudoff@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff)
Subject: Re: Bizarre customs declarations (was Re: Airport security)
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:32:41 GMT

In 1984 I was returning from a trip to Poland. I was on a train to
Vienna and we had to fill out custom forms as we left Poland and
entered Czechoslovakia. One of the women in my compartment had put
"opium" on her form. The customs agents were in quite a tizzy until
they realized that she was referring to the perfume Opium.
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple)
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:28:12 GMT

In article <stovall.721181535@ficus.cs.ucla.edu> stovall@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Stovall) writes:
>A while ago I reposted in s.c.a.a. some of Billi Goldberg's sci.med.aids
>articles on the Wistar Origin of AIDS Theory, which postulated that early
>polio vaccine innoculations in Zaire may have introduced simian viruses
>into humans which were precursors for HIV. That theory has lost some steam,
>although it is still not clear to me that samples of the 1959 vaccine stock
>(which were said to still exist in the freezers of the Wistar Institute)
>were ever found and tested.
>
>The technology did not exist in the 1950's to genetically engineer HIV,
>but there may have been accidents and/or experiments involving simian immuno-
>suppresant viruses during those years, and such simian viruses may well
>have mutated into what we now call HIV. It certainly is possible that
>the US intelligence community participated in such "accidents" and/or
>"experiments." There definitely is something curious about the epidemiology
>of AIDS so far: in this country, it has been almost exclusively confined
>to homosexuals and people of color, and worldwide it will decimate Africa
>and Asia, apparently leaving Europe relatively untouched.

Except:

(1) American cases of HIV have been found predating 1959.
(2) The high incidence of AIDS among homosexuals can be explained by
    the efficiency of transmission through anal sex and the fact that
    women are extraordinarily poor transmitters -- lesbians are at
    far less risk for AIDS than heterosexuals.
(3) The high incidence of AIDS among the African-American community is
    best explained through needle-sharing.
(4) The same holds true in Africa, where sterilization of needles is rare,
    and co-factors of genital ulcers are common.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
From: wbrown@access.digex.com (William Brown)
Subject: Re: AIDS & Epidemics
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:46:47 GMT


I know I said I would step out of this thread, but one point....

An epidemic is not defined by the same numbers regardless of the disease. 
As an example, five cases of rabies in an entire state is a bona fide
epidemic FOR RABIES.  Therefore, you can't dismiss a disease as not being
epidemic because it's prevalence is lower than some other disease.
   (This of course begs the question, "how many people have to have AIDS
before it can be called an epidemic?"  And the answer is: "This is where I
leave the discussion to the epidemiologists...")

Hey, at least I'm honest.  :-)

Peace

Bill

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 13:57:18 GMT

In article <rKB=qf-@engin.umich.edu>, Darryle E Merlette writes:
> [stuff deleted]     Among other things, it is
> not possible for viruses to cross species, so that story about AIDS
> originating from the African green monkey is even more impossible.

Not only do viruses cross species, but some of them (in particular HIV)
mutate generously. It's not _the_ HIV virus out there. And, if you're
infected by one...  :-O

Only time will tell what kind of disease we're dealing with really.

---
YuNoHoo
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Nickles (was Canadian pennies)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:24:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.191456.23514@midway.uchicago.edu>, pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson) writes...
>The original poster was implying that there was something "loony" (as
>in, not sane) about having a circulating coin meeting those criteria.
> 
>I merely pointed out that the US dime, which has a long and distiguished
>history of circulation, and is not viewed as a goofy coin by any means,
>meets, essentially, those criteria.

Dimes 'cheated' to get accepted.  They were originally 90% silver, which
the public considered worth more than a copper penny or a copper-nickel
nickel.  Also dimes are more different from pennies than Sues are from
quarters, as they are thinner and a different color.

>Of course, the Susie B meets them as well.  But I have never understood
>people's dislike of the Susie B.  I think they are cool, and I expect
>that people who cannot distinguish between them and quarters are
>probably the same people who never figured out how to record on their VCRs.

They should have made them a little more different anyway.  Make them out of
a gold-colored alloy such as many foreign coins are, put a different milling
on the edges, make the 13 "sides" on them real.
>I still use them whenever I can.

I saw them exactly 3 times in circulation when they came out and never (in
circulation) since.

Too bad, we need a $1 coin.

Another nonexistant bit of money is the $2 bill.  I saw 2 a week ago in
a woman's wallet when she paid for a pizza.  I made a comment and she said
she was not going to spend them.  I asked her if they were the old ones, she
didn't know.  They weren't.  Apparently she thought they were collector's
items.

One way to get both $2s and Sues in circulation is to discontinue the $1 bill.

ObMoneyUL1:  A trade show in a city had an admission fee of $3, and if people
paid with a $5 they gave a $2 bill in change, to show local merchants the
amount of money spent by attendees of the trade show.  A nearby McDonald's
wouldn't take the $2 bill from an attendee because the counter worker thought
it was counterfeit.

ObMoneyUL2:  The US Treasury Building in Washington DC is sinking because the
architech didn't account for the weight of $1 coins and $2 bills the public
won't accept.

-Mike
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.games.frp.campaign
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:02:12 GMT

MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice) writes:
:  
: ObUL:  A friend who used to work as a baggage handler for Flying
: Tigers claims that one of that company's planes once crashed
: because the cows weren't milked before being loaded.  It seems
: that the pilot did not anticipate the weight of the udders shifting
: when he banked the plane. . . .

Sounds like the was just making excuses. He should have pushed the
udder rudder.

Bill
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From: bslavens@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bradley E Slavens)
Subject: AFU???? ( was Re: furrfu??)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:42:44 GMT


>>
>>What the heck does 'furrfu' mean?  Is it an acronym for something?  I just
>>can't figure it out.
>
>Sheesh!
>

Yeah, and while we're at it, does   "AFU"   mean   "all fucked up"   ?

Just checking.
From: diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Toilet paper: over or under?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:49:19 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bose.phys.ksu.edu

In <BxLEtK.70J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider) writes:


>Knowing this newsgroup, this is probably a FAQ, but I'll go ahead
>with it anyway...

>What's the deal?  When you put toilet paper on the roll, is 
>the loose end supposed to go over the top of the roll or come
>from under the roll?

This is an easy one:  Over in the Northern Hemisphere, Under in the
Southern.  It has to do with the corriolis effect.

-Diverson

--
diverson@phys.ksu.edu
From: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Nonexistant cars
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462
Reply-To: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 

>>There was a later insinuation that the woman wasn't a woman at all, just a
>>clever male scam artist.  Carrol Shelby once described the Dale with,
>>"Anyone trying to corner in this thing is gonna lose the outside cheek off
>>his ass....."
>>
>>When investors attempted to forclose on whatshername, they found "an empty
>>office and assorted devices used by female impersonators".
>>
>While Shelby's comments weren't in the article, the part about the scam
>artist being a guy in drag was a major part of it.  There was a photo of the
>car, IMHO the most god-awfl ugly thing I've ever seen, not counting some
>cars that are acually in use today!!  I've often wondered where I could get
>some more info on this.  Although not a real UL, it's still fun to read about.
>Selling a car that didn't exist is probably the best scam I've read about.
>(the "before" and "after" photos in the article are startling!!)

Look in the auto magazines (Road & Track, Car & Driver, etc.) of the
late 60s try 1967 through 1970.
            
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From: fred@page6.pinetree.org (Fred Ennis)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Airport security
Keywords: my gun?
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 15:53:35 -0500
Organization: Page 6, Ottawa, Ontario +1 613-729-9451

> plane.  Imagine the feeling that I had when she informed the police that
> I was trying to board the plane with a set of screwdrivers in my bag!

Here's a true story about odd stuff and airport security.

I'm used to the screwdriver and pliers alert at security because I was a 
radio reporter for several years and carried a few tools to help me deal
with connecting to various telephones, etc.

Eventually, I just gave up and started carrying one of those screwdrivers 
that has all the bits stored in the handle, and I had no further 
problems.

But, during the 1979 federal election, I was travelling with Ed 
Broadbent, the leader of the New Democratic Party. For the first two 
weeks we were all flying commercial because the charter wasn't ready 
because no one expected the snap election. 

Ed was in the habit of carrying a pair of scissors in his briefcase. The 
security people grabbed them! Here's a guy who was on TV every night, 
recognizable by most adult Canadians, and who had a good reason for 
carrying the scissors, namely to clip stuff out of newspapers.

Wait, it gets better! Inspector Rene Chabot of the RCMP was assigned to 
Ed, to handle his protection, etc.  Rene was carrying a gun under his 
jacket, and had the proper paperwork to carry it on the commerical
flight. He immediately stepped forward, identified himself, and told the 
airport security people "I'll be happy to carry the scissors for Mr. 
Broadbent."

The security people looked at Rene's paperwork and told him, "This is 
only good for a gun, not for scissors." They compromised by putting the 
scissors in a sealed envelope and delivering it to the pilot to hand to 
Ed when the plane landed. As soon as we were aloft, the pilot entered the 
cabin and gave Ed the scissors, apologizing for the bozos at security.


--
Fred Ennis, fred@page6.pinetree.org

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From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:20:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: engage.1992Nov10.222416.5113
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Ummmm, don't know if this was mentioned, but the "AIDS is biological warfare
created by the CIA to wipe out Africans/whoever" story is Soviet propaganda/
disinformation _designed_ to make the US look bad in the eyes of the world
(particularly Africa).

-Mike
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Puking on shoes - A part of the culture?
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:58:02 GMT
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

In article 19134@midway.uchicago.edu, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (All this) writes:
> The [Churchill] reference comes from a Dave Barry column: "Madam, I may
> be drunk, but--BLLLEAARGGGGHHH"

Actually, it comes from an issue of _National Lampoon_, around 1980 or
so, where there are a bunch of faux Churchill anecdotes, with manglings
of some of his more famous lines.

Brian "At least, that's what *I* was plag^H^H^H^Husing as a source" Scearce
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Brian Scearce                                           bls@sector7g.eng.sun.com
              The above does not necessarily represent Sun policy.
                  "You can't fit the truth on a t-shirt, man."
                                 "That'd fit."
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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 12 Nov 1992 05:34:14 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

  [RE  US ATMs holding $75K to $150K]
  
styri@nta.no (IForgetHoo) writes:

  +The norwegian ones doesn't usually store that much in US$ bills...

That's why they're not stolen as frequently.


Terry "At least not by me" Chan
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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Courgettes (was Re: doggy style)
Date: 9 Nov 92 05:26:00 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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> Please add to the list, from MRI cases I have seen ;

Irrespective of what the magnetic field would do to anything
metallic, why on oith would they use MRI rather than a plain 
ol' X-ray to diagnose a household object stuck up the nockhole?
Talk about technology run rampant..

Joe "You'd think they'd at least stop after a CT scan" Chew
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