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From: livneh@oliver.rutgers.edu (Shai Livneh)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Ford Mustang, GT, 5.0L, V8
Keywords: Opinions, Owner Satisfaction
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:06:55 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I can't tell you about the GT but the LX is a different story.  A couple of weeks ago
I was shopping for a mustang (I've always wanted one and finally had enough money).
What I really was interested in was the 5.0 LX coupe (as opposed to the hatchback).
For me there is no beating the pure muscular look of the LX, while the GT I think is too
flashy with those air scoops etc. but that is personal taste.  I test drove an 89 and it 
all the power I dreamed of but the dealer wanted $9000 for it and it was one of the ugliest 
colors ever (beige, orange with brown and tan).  After shopping around and having to deal 
with the ever annoying salesdroids, I finally got an unbelievable deal for a brand new LX 
hatchback for $10988 (unheard of considering sticker price was close to $17000).  I was all
excited and was ready to buy the car until I found out what the insurance is going to be
$3500 - here in the wonderful state of NJ (and this without my DMV points).  
Well, anyway for me the Mustang is just a dream car at this point until I get a real job
(being a grad student doesn't do wonders for you financially).  
As for you, if you like the GT and are willing to buy one you realize you will pay more 
for a car that might look better but cost several thousand more and is probably slower 
than an LX in identical trim (engine and transmission).  I think it is one of the only American
cars out there that I would consider driving since it has a big strong V8 and is rear wheel 
drive and is just purely muscular in looks and sound.  As for model year, your best bet is
with a 1990 and later since the mass flow multi-port fuel injection was installed on these
cars and is superior to the previous fuel system.  Good like finding a car.
								Shai Livneh
								Rutgers University
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: smyung@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Sung Myung)
Subject: Mazda : Factory Incentives
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:40:39 GMT

 Several weeks ago, I saw a post said that there are factory rebates
on sporty coupes like Mazda MX-3, Hyundai Scoupe etc.
 Does anyone know about the factory rebate on Mazda MX-3 ?
 MX-3 GS is my interest. 
Or is there any 1-800 number with which I can check this out?
 Thanks in advance.
                          Sung
From: gnelson@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Gregory Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Integra pricing
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:30:18 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I'm looking to buy a '92 Acura Integra with A/C and possibly an AM/FM/cass.
The dealers have been giving me prices in the neighborhood of $12,900 or
so.  Any idea what these cars _should_ be going for?  What's the best 
time to buy?  Will they be more desperate come the end of August when
the '93s are coming in?  Any word on revisions for the '93s?  

Any suggestions/advice on buying a new car or dealing with Acura dealers
in particular will be gratefully accepted.  I'm a rookie at this so I can
use all the help I can get!  Thanks.

Greg Nelson  (gnelson@physics.rutgers.edu)
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From: jbauman@btr.btr.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving
Subject: Oregon Microwave's Radar Jammer
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:01:57 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos
Distribution: na
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM


Several years ago, a company called Oregon Microwave sold plans for 
a K band radar jammer, as well as complete units ($235!).  Did anyone
out there build one of the units, or buy one?  Is the company still
in business?  They were located in Portland on Barbur Blvd.  

Jim Bauman
jbauman@btr.com
From: kdlin@laplace.scd.ucar.edu (K. David Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Comments about GMC Typhoon...(Looking to purchase)
Keywords: GMC, Typhoon, SUV, comments
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:13:43 GMT
Organization: UCLA School of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1992Jul22.150410.26953@mcs.anl.gov> korp@atlantis.eid.anl.gov (Peter Korp) writes:
#
#I have just about convinced myself that I want to get a GMC Typhoon. But
#before I buy some advice or comments about others experience with it would
#be appreciated. ....

Earlier this year, I was invited by the GMC to test drive their Typhone,
Syclone, and another truck on an autocross. I'm not a good car/truck
reviewer. But I can offer my test drive story.

It was an early February afternoon. While it was cold and snowy elsewhere
in the country, our California sun was keeping everyone warm ( and happy :).
Since the GMC crew wanted to simulate winter driving, so they put soap, water,
and other stuff on the track to make it slippery. Before they let us test
drive the Typhone, they emphasized how well a Typhone could handle in
taking off, braking, and cornering on slippery surface.

Then I got behind the wheel and was ready to take off. I pressed the gas
pedal about 1/4 down. That truck wouldn't go anywhere, until I eased off
the gas pedal. Oh well....

Then I came to an corner where I was supposed to hit the  brake as hard
as I could to demonstrate how good its ABS was. So I did. I  hit the brake
as hard as I could. Then the rear skidded out. I lost the control. That
Typhone spinned out more than 90 degrees. It scared the sh*t out of the 
professional driver on the passenger side.  The ABS was supposed to 
work.... and my feet aren't that big either....

Then we came to some dry corners. This Typhone behaved pretty well as a
truck. 

In general, I was disappointed.

David

( Please direct any e-mail to the address in the .sig. Thanks. )
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Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers
From: joec@fid.morgan.com (Joe Collins)
Subject: The Book "Don't get taken every time"
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:59:02 GMT

Its return-the-favor time to the net....

Many people suggested getting this car-buying book at the library
or local book store. The below information will help you get it 
(I JUST bought it and will read it this weekend):

Subject:   Buying cars/trucks, trade-ins, etc
Title:     DONT'T GET TAKEN EVERY TIME
Author:    REMAR SUTTON
ISBN:      0-14-015263-6
Publisher: Penguin Books
           375 Hudson Street
           New York, NY 10014
Published: 1982, revised 1986 and revised again in 1991
Price:     7.95 (softcover) (sometimes discounted - I got 10% off).
Pages:     345

Look for the 10th Anniversary edition, a red banner across the cover
which says "New and Revised Edition".

With the above information, you can go your library and have them
acquire it through their 'Interlibrary Loan service', if it is not
already on their shelf. Or, you can order it your own copy from
your local book store.

Hope this helps....

Joe
joec@morgan.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: al@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Alan Peterman)
Subject: Re: How to determine year of a car?
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:03:58 GMT

Look at the VIN number.  On the Acura it is in 3 places, the door
sill below the latch, the dash top, and the firewall.  All three 
better be the same number!  They also should agree with the number
on the title card.

The Acura Code will be   JH4  DAa bc*dennnnnn

Code is as follows:

a - 1 for 5 door
    3 for 3 door

b - 3 for 5 speed Manual 3 door
    4 for 4 speed Auto  3 door
    7 for 5 speed Manual 5 door
    8 for 4 speed  Auto 4 door

c - 4 for RS
    5 for LS

* - check digit

d - Model year  J=1988  K=1989

e - Factory Code - S= Suzuka Factory

nnnn..  serial number

So an 88 3 door LS would probably be  JH4  DA3 35*JSnnnnnn


BTW - BUY the factory service manual, wonderful book!





-- 
Alan L. Peterman                                   (503)-684-1984 hm
                       al@qiclab.scn.rain.com
It's odd how as I get older, the days are longer, but the years are shorter!
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: Re: More CHP shit!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:43:02 GMT

Know why we (California) are in IOUs? becuase the CHP is
buying fancy mustangs and probes, and gmc syclones.
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: gstovall@crchh67.bnr.ca (Greg Stovall)
Subject: Mitsubishi Expo info needed (also LRV version)
Reply-To: gstovall@crchh67.bnr.ca (Greg Stovall)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:24:52 GMT


I've been looking at the Mitsubishi Expo (also the LRV version, which
is also sold as Plymouth Colt Vista and Eagle Summit Wagon).

Vehicle looks and rides nice, but it is so new that I've not seen
any press on it from CU.  Does anyone have any info, good or bad?

thanks for the help!!!

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Bell-Northern Research            ESN   444-7009
Richardson, Texas, USA            (214) 684-7009
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: 300zx better than the L88? NOT!
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:55:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.183455.304@wam.umd.edu>, fitchitt@wam.umd.edu () writes:
|> In article <Bs0FIs.1Fs@acsu.buffalo.edu> v368ucgd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TOM STEEGMANN) writes:
|> >
|> >	In reply to the poster who didnt seem to think that a L88
|> >vette couldnt "survive" over 100mph, the top speed for this model
|> >was, in fact, 147 mph. This was done with bias ply tires. Try that in 
|> >your 300zx. Also, I dont need a lecture on brake cooling. The aluminum
|> >calipered L88 did just fine. It stopped from 80mph in 218 feet. The 
|> >300zx turbo takes *gasp* 231 feet! So much for your new technology
|> >argument. In fact, despite what you think, there has been very little
|> >new technology in any car for the past 30 or 40 years.
|> 
You know, I'm a big fan of the old 'vettes, but this argument is ludicrous.
Very little new technology?! You obviously havent done anything under the
hood recently! Computerized electronic engine management, anti-lock brakes,
traction control...the list goes on and on.  As for your braking statistics...
I would seriously like to know your source, because they sound awfully 
suspicious.

I won't even begin to talk about cornering...the older cars don't even
compare in that category.

jds

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From: gss@btcase.bt.co.uk (Graham Sewell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: "Zymol and AUTO GLYM, any experience ?"
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:21:07 GMT
Organization: British Telecom, Lion House, London.

aalis@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Andy A. Liss) writes:

>Or, how about a car polish called AUTO GLYM (from England, around 
>US $ 10 a bottle).  It seems that they also sell this stuff from 
>mail order only (ex. a mail order co. named Griot's Garage has a 
>complete line of AUTO GLYM car care).

Andy,

I have tried Auto Glym.  Beacuse of its thick consistency, it takes
quite some time to apply, but it is easy to buff up afterwards.  So far
the shine has held up well (about six weeks) and the car looks great
after a wash and chamois.  I am sure that the shine would look even
better on a dark car (black?), but it is almost impossible to get a
noteworthy shine on a white car :-(.  However, this is the best yet :-).


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Unix TP and Database Unit              Fax   +44 71 728 4883
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From: pnelson@cobra.Tymnet.COM (Phil Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: IT'S YOUR FAULT!
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:38:17 GMT
Organization: BT North America (Tymnet)

In article <1992Jul27.130054.215@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:

|||In article <1992Jul23.174231.160@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
||||You filthy money-grubbing, rich capitalist pigs driving fast sports cars and
||||gas-guzzling automobiles, polluting the air with the nauseating stench of ex
||||haust, creating acid rain, and melting a gaping hole in the ever-diminishing
||||ozone layer...it's all your fault this world is so f--ked up!!! If everybody
||||got rid of their automobiles, we'd have a much nicer environment to leave to

||||our children!!!!
|
|Listen [bleep], why don't you get a life!  I'm very concerned for the environ-
|ment and do the best I can to help it, but your [bleep] comments and attitude
|[bleep] So why don't you tell us how you commute?  Do you have a bike?  Do you
|try and save toilet water?  How long do you take a shower?  Do you recycle?
|As for the capitalist pigs comment, don't generalize everybody into one
|category.  Basically, I'm going to stop wasting bandwidth, and just say two
|words... [bleep] OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 You filthy money-grubbing, rich capitalist pigs driving fast sports cars
and gas-guzzling automobiles (wanna-bees) are so irritable! :-)

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  To make an apt answer is a joy to a man,
       and a word in season, how good it is!            Proverbs 15:23
From: macman+@pitt.edu (Dennis H Lippert)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Compressors & Air To
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:31:42 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <12613.2A71C001@ofa123.Fidonet.org> Larry.Mc.Donald@ofa123.Fidonet.org (Larry Mc Donald) writes:

>   The last Sears compressor I took apart had stamped sheet metal
>connecting rods, with *NO* crank bearings. Not what I'd call top
>notch, so to speak! They do tend to be worth about what Sears
>asks for them, but then buying used industrial equipment for the
>same price will get you better equipment with longer service to
>you.

But then again, how much is the typical car enthusiast going to use the 
compressor?  A commercial one is probably deigned to be run (at full
volume) for many hours at a time.  How often do you do sandblasting or
painting for long periods of time?  More specifically, how often do you
run two spray guns at once? (the rating of our 2-HP compressor).

Even routine tire-filling is a "turn it on, let it fill, and pump the 
tires" affair... with the compressor rarely coming on to fill the tank
a second time.

And the commercial compressor is designed to run every day...  because
of the overdesign, you'll pay dearly for what you probably don't need.

-Den
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Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers
From: safi@ellis.uchicago.edu (pedro natalio safier)
Subject: Advise needed on movers
Reply-To: safi@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Astronomy & Astrophysics
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:02:47 GMT


Hi,
     My wife and I are moving to SF in September. We got the best prices
from Allied and Atlas. Does anybody has any experience with these companies?

Any help will be appreciated. Please send your responses to

                           safi@ellis.uchicago.edu


                                    Thanks a lot,
                                                     Pedro
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark)
Subject: request for info: Miata
Keywords: miata
Reply-To: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark)
Organization: Boss Logic
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:06:54 GMT

I'm considering buying a new Miata. Any comments and advice would be  
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
	Pete Clark
	pclark@is.com
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: barry@geovision.gvc.com (Barry Comer)
Subject: MX-3 mailing list
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:01:56 GMT

	Is there a MX-3 mailing list in place?  If not what is required
	to set one up.

later
Barry
From: shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: TIRES FOR A LIGHT GT
Date: 27 Jul 1992 18:09:19 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: merlin.think.com

Hi,
	I recently purchased a Ford Escort '87 GT and am considering
buying a new set of tires. It has goodyear eagles on the front
and coopers on the back. My questions are:
1. what all-season tire would you recommend for this car (fr/rear)?
2. What should I expect to pay for this?

Please bear in mind that I will be driving in the NE. Thanks.
From: jalal@lecap.wpd.sgi.com (Jalal Rajabali)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: AMG wheels for sale!!!
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:20:44 GMT
Reply-To: jalal@lecap.wpd.sgi.com (Jalal Rajabali)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA

AMG Aero Disc wheels:

	Size:  17"x8"
	Color: Polished Aluminum with Black accent
	Fits:  300 series
	Condition:  Execellent

Asking $1500.00 (for a set of four) without tires.  Bought brand new for
approx $2000.00.

If interested, please call Daren Okada at:

	(415) 854-6019

Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving
From: amb@cs.columbia.edu (andrew m. boardman)
Subject: Re: More CHP shit!
Organization: Slug Hordes of the Planet Gamma
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:31:03 GMT

synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:
>FYI, Albuquerque city police also use 5.0 LX interceptors (white-on-
>white, too) and the New Mexico State Police have a fleet as well.
>I've also seen interceptors in use in Texas, Louisiana, Georgia and
>Colorado.  'Tis nothing new.

Perhaps something that *is* new: New York will be replacing its mustangs
with 'vettes as they clock 90k.  FYI, marked 'vettes are as hysterical
looking as they sound...

andrew
From: johns@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (John Schubert)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:01:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Rotary Engine gurus?
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.
Newsgroups: rec.autos

# 
# I recently purchased a new 1991 RX-7 convertible, and I'm looking for
Congrats
# 
# 1. Regarding the ever-popular practice of down-shifting.  I understand 
# that the issues are generally brake wear vs. transmission/engine wear.
# Are there other things to consider with a rotary engine in particular?
I don't think so.
# 
# 2. My owner's manual prescribes the use of ECII motor oil (also known
I don't know about mineral oil. DON'T use synthetic oil until after the
drive train is broken in. There has been discussions about how well synthetics
lubricate the apex seals. Rotories inject oil into the intake to do this.
Personally I don't use synthetics. I can't justify the price. Use a high
quality oil and change it and the filter often. It's cheap insurance and
changing the oil and filter removes contaminants.
# 
# 3. Can anyone in the San Francisco Bay area recommend a good 
# (non-dealer) mechanic for my new baby?
P.R. Motorsports in Hayward. (510) 786-0851. The owner is Rick. Tell him I sent
you...

There is a place in Campbell, but I've heard an increasing number of people
complaining about their attitude as well as the need for return visits.

If you join the Bay Area Rx7 Club, P.R. and others will give you discounts...
For information on the club, email me.

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Xref: sparky rec.autos:18709 rec.autos.driving:4669
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 92 11:50:49 CST
From:         JMARTIN@WUVMD
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:         Z vs. M3 - THANKS, BUT......
Newsgroups:   rec.autos,rec.autos.driving

Many thanks to those who have replied to my question of the Z vs M3.


BUT, does anyone have any cold , hard facts or know where I could
get some?????  I have received mostly opinions  which is great,
but I would also like some FACTS.........

Don't get me wrong, I need opinions too.  If I didn't need people's
opinions I would drive a HYUNDI .( NO THANKS, I would rather drive
a fresh pair of NIKE'S)

I am sure there have got to be some Z and M3 owners out there.
Speak up, Please!!!!!!!

As one person stated "these cars were designed for the fairly rich",
since I am NOT fairly rich, I need to spend wisely , but I also
need a nice toy to play with before I have a wife and kids......
(no flames , please)

By the way, the 300Z I am referring too is not the Twin Turb! :(

Repeating: Need info of performance, maintance, handling, mpg,
           endurance, options, etc....

models  :  300z 90 - 91   vs.    BMW M3 87 - 88

* note considering cars with over 45k on dash

 thanks

Joe Martin
jmartin@wuvmd.wustl.edu
Washington University
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: aalis@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Andy A. Liss)
Subject: "Zymol and AUTO GLYM, any experience ?"
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:51:49 GMT

Last time someone in the net asked whether the zymol wax is any good,
but so far, I haven't seen any answer to this one.

So..., has anyone out there in the net wisdom tried zymol, are they
worth their price (around US $25 and up, for example, I saw the 
beginner's kit ad in the auto magazine sells for $ 64, and goes up 
to $ 4,000 / more for the connosieur (sp) / car show buff)

Or, how about a car polish called AUTO GLYM (from England, around 
US $ 10 a bottle).  It seems that they also sell this stuff from 
mail order only (ex. a mail order co. named Griot's Garage has a 
complete line of AUTO GLYM car care).

I myself have been happy with Liquid Crystal for around $ 11/can.

Thanks in advance for any comments.

- Andy -


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