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From: jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li)
Subject:  #9 PENN STATE defeats #18 DEPAUL 
Organization: University of Utah
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 22:41:37 GMT


	The final score is: 85 : 78.

JLi
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From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Subject: Re: BYU upset by DUKE
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 24 Dec 1992 10:02 MST  

In article <1992Dec23.220225.1@cc.uvcc.edu>, maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu writes...
{My conclusions about the Maui invitational....
{ 
{A great team was invited....maybe, two...Duke and Oklahoma
{ 
{Several good teams were invited...

I think it was a good show for colleg hoops.  Tight games, overtime games,
good offense, top 25 teams, etc.......

{ 
{And some marginal teams....
{ 
{Duke has just as much of a right to the number 1 spot as a half
{a dozen other great teams.  They look like a Regional Finalist and beyond...
{ 
{BYU was out of their game against Duke.  Duke magnified BYU's weaknesses.
                      ^^^^^
     ....out of their league ....


{Hopefully, BYU can use this game film constructively and build toward
{March Madness...the Big Dance...the Sweet 64....well, er, a let's start
{with the WAC race...

BYU showed why they are going to zip through the WAC with relative ease.  They
played inspired hoop against Oklahoma and Memph. St.  Three games in three days
is alot for anyone this early in the season, and to play those calibre of teams
is also tough.  Cougs did well.  

{ 
{arthur
{Go Cougs!

Who does BYU play next?


Utah plays at home against U.Wisconsin-Milwaukee on the 26th of DEC.  I'll be
there, but I probably could sit anywhere I want in the Huntsman Center.  I 
doubt that there will be many people there.

-Eric
ewstroup@cc.utah.edu


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From: maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: BYU in Far West Tourney?
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:05:11 -0700

> 
>>Final Score: Ohio State - 85, Oregon State - 77.
>>             University of Oregon - 76, BYU - 70.
> 
> Say, isn't BYU the same team that lost to Duke in the Maui Tournament 
> in Hawaii last week?  If that is so, this means that BYU played in two 
> tournaments in less than one week.
> 
> Just to be sure, when was the Far West Tournament held?

The tournament is Dec 28 and Dec 29th.

BYU is 1-1 on the opponents court, 4-0 at home, and 2-2 on neutral courts
this year (with another neutral court game tonight against Oregon St).

I like seeing BYU play on neutral courts.  It give the team a better measure
of how they would do against their opponents come NCAA tourney time.
Doesn't look too promising...

BYU looked good in spots, against Oregon last night, but general played 
sloopy.  Too many turnovers!!  Reid played poorly, but so did 
their other point guards (sp?) They need to run plays specifically for Nixon..
If Durrant doesn't get his act together, defenders are going to start 
sagging off of him since he hasn't proven he can hit from beyond three feet.
 
The silver lining...While BYU is very inexperienced at point guard and backup
shooting guard right now, they have all season to improve and with their
improvement, the team will improve.  Shane Knight looked good.

arthur
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From: foerster@batgirl.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Subject: Re: Blue Ribbon
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 13:48:24 GMT
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <8285@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
|> 
|>  For those who don't know, the new Blue Ribbon College Baketball Yearbook
|> is out.  It's the most comprehensive look at hoops out there.  368 pages,
|> deft analysis and a nice preps section.  If you can't find it, you can order
|> it from the following address:
|>   Christopher Publishing
|>   1 Christopher Lane
|>   Buckhannon, WV 26201
|> 
|> Price $15.00, includes Postage & Handling.
|>  And no, Chris Wallace **isn't** paying me for posting this.
|> 	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
|> "I've been your dog ever since I've been your man."--Son House

Yea, but they didn't include a write-up about Western Illinois University
if you can belive that........ I want my money back, darnit.

You can also order Blue Ribbon by calling 1-800-828-HOOP and you'll have it
within 5 days. Other than their Western Illinois screw up, it's pretty 
concise.
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From: model03@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (John Deke)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Did Duke lose?
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:54:55 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


I just thought I saw a score indicating that Duke lost yesterday. Am I seeing
things? Were the scores between the two teams switched? 

Also, I thought the team they lost to was Depaul.

Could someone confirm/deny this for me? Somehow I just can't except this new
reality unless it is confirmed for me on the net.


-- 

John Deke
jdeke@oread.cc.ukans.edu
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From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: Tarheels 92-93 champs?
Originator: currin@poult1.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:36:26 GMT


I get premonitions and believe me it's not wishful thinking but this year's
Tarheel team is going to go far. Final four or very likely to win it all.
The glaring weaknesses of years past read that point guard and consistent 
outside shooting seem solved. This is a team with size and depth. Look for
Dean to retire after this year's sucessful campaign. He'll hand over the reins
to his sucessor with his house in good order with Stackhouse et al coming in
next year. Just a gut feeling but I bet I'm right.

RC -very likely to be a ex-netter soon
(changing jobs and likely to lose net access)
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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: FISHER-MICHIGAN (was Michigan doesn't play as a team)
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 17:04:56 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

>Gee thanks Brian, but this had very little to do with Michigan winning.

You're welcome.
 
Michigan won because it got out of trouble, whether it was luck
or skill we will never know (O.K., maybe you and Orin).
 
Enjoy you're season.
 
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From: atchison@shaggyman.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: tOSU Fans Please Read
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:27:22 GMT

In article <C0AGJH.EJ4@ucunix.san.uc.edu> mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore) writes:
>What can be inferred from this?
>West Virgina Whips tOSU
>South Alabama beats West Virgina by 7
>UC beats South Alabama 87-49.

Assuming you're serious, we'll see after a couple OSU/Indiana tilts...  ;-)

>------------------------------
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> _    _ __   __  (The Best Team in Ohio)        /  David B. Moore

Nah, but _maybe_ the best player... we'll see how it develops.

GO BUCKS!!!
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From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Subject: Re: Is Laettner gay?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:19:13 GMT

Robert Mac K:

> Of course, it didn't help that the guy they assigned to write the
> article was none other than Curry Kirkpatrick, UNC alum and shameless
> Duke-basher.  :-)

How true. I'm a UNC man, and I can honestly say "I hate that man." OK hate
is a little strong, but I do see his bias at times, and I can't stand his
writing style. The guy is a geek.

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From: hojoon@wheat.ecn.purdue.edu (Hojoon Choi)
Subject: Q:RPI Scores
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 16:14:16 GMT


Would you let me know what "RPI stat" means?
 RPI     W  L   OW  OL   OOW  OOL  F1    F2    F3
(I'm sorry if it is stupid question, but I'm new in this group)
Thanks in advance
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From: jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher)
Subject: Southern Illinois vs. Iowa
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:22:02 GMT


I listened to this game on the radio. First half was very tight and 
tense. The lead changed hands
many times. SIU was up 4 right before the half. With 17 seconds to go
and SIU up by one. Iowa managed a 4 point play. Make 1 free throw,
miss 1, put in the rebound, get fouled, make the free throw. This
happened twice in the first half.  SIU had no one to contain Chris 
Street or block him out - Amaya and Earl nullified each other - he had 
a great first half and was too quick and strong for DaSilva. Iowa was 
up 44 - 41 at half.  SIU had numerous steals and breakaways in the 
half - SIU had a quickness advantage.

The second half was also very tense and physical, but SIU just went
very cold. I think the heat (87) and humidity (85%) was getting to them
- Iowa had more depth and their bench didn't hurt them. Val Barnes 
went nuts and couldn't miss. SIU tried to adjust and guard him tightly
but even the Iowa announcers were raving about the shots he was 
making - he had a big height advantage over Lowery of SIU. Iowa shot
nearly 60% in the second half and Southern 40% - scoring just 29 points
in the second half. Iowa wins 90 - 70 - but the score is a bit 
deceiving - it was a very tense, physical game, Iowa's best of the year
according to the radio announcers. Overall, Iowa had an awesome 
tournament, crushing their first 2 opponents and winning this one 
handily. Should do very well in the Big 10.

Both Iowa and SIU had two players on the all-tournament team.

Earlier this year Iowa beat Mississippi St by 15 in Iowa City, a team
SIU beat by 12 in this tournament.

SIU plays at Mississippi tonight.
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: UNC TARHEELS--1992/93 NCAA BSKTBLL. CHAMPS
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:42:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
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It is so hard to take all this talk of Dean Smith seriously when he is such
a proven tournament non-winner.  I realize he has had some bad breaks, but
geez, how many times have they been w/in 2 or 3 wins of winning it all and
not done it?  Dean is a fantastic coach over the long haul (read: regular
season) but seems to miss something when it comes to preparing for the 
tourney.  It seems like he could learn something from Knight in this Arena.
It took Coach K at Duke a while, but he seems to have discovered whatever it
is that makes a team tournament.  I guess I am still bitter about what Dean
tried to do to the game with that 4-corners stuff.

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From: ehlerswm@hackney.ecn.purdue.edu (William Mark Ehlers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Purdue vs Indiana State
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:55:48 GMT
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Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

19 December 1992 -- West Lafayette, Indiana

FINAL SCORE : PURDUE - 92  ISU - 63

ISU	   Mns	FG(3pt)	FT	REB	A	ST	BK	PF	PTS
TEAM	   200	21-53	17-23	25	14	5	1	18	63
		(4-15)
Purdue	
Robinson    24 6-14 0/2	4-4	9	4	6	0	5	16
Martin	    24	3-8 0/1	5-5	2	3	2	0	1	11
Stanback    25	5-7	2-2	3	2	1	0	2	12
Waddell     23	2-5 0/1	0-0	4	3	1	1	3	4
Painter	    20	7-9 2/4	0-1	0	5	0	0	1	16
Dove	    12	3-3	1-1	2	2	0	0	1	7
Williams    13	3-3	0-0	0	0	0	0	3	6
Roberts	    19	0-4 0/3	1-2	2	5	5	1	0	1
Darner	    15	1-2 1/1	0-0	1	3	0	0	0	3
Jennings    8	3-4	0-2	2	0	0	0	4	6
McNary	    12	2-2	6-6	4	0	0	1	1	10
Foster	    4	0-1 0/1	0-0	0	1	0	0	0	0
Spiker	    1	0-0	0-0	0	0	1	0	0	0
TEAM	   200	35-62	19-23	35	28	9	2	22	92
		(3-13)

Turnovers : ISU - 19  PU - 15		Attendence : 14,123
Officials : P. Bova, M. Smith, P. Janssen

Well Purdue came back from finals with a flurry especially blurry eyed Matt
Painter (he had 2 finals on Saturday before the game).  

Purdue jumped out to a quick 8-0 lead by hitting 4 of their first 5 shots.  
This lead held up for most of the half, ISU got as close as 5 a couple of times
but Purdue stretched the lead to 16 at the half -- 42-26.  This was the first
game where Robinson was not up to par.  He missed a lot of forced shots and
fouled out midway through the second half.  However, Painter picked up the 
slack scoring a career high 16 points including 2-4 from the 3 point line.
Additionally, Corny looked solid hitting both of his shots and 6 FTs for a
solid 12 minutes of play.  ISU was never really in this game as Purdue coasted
to the victory in front of a sell out crowd.  

Purdue next travels to SW Missouri State tommorow for only their second road
game of the season.  This will be a tough test for the young Boilers who are
now an impressive 5-0.

Until Wed.....
					---Mark
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From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Subject: Re: Michigan 79  -  North Carolina 78
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:48:27 GMT

Robert Burgin:

>         And while we're on Dean's case, does anyone else
>         think that he shows too much loyalty to his seniors?

Yes, and if I remember correctly, Dean doesn't allow Freshmen to give
interviews! If he had his way, I don't even think Freshmen would be
allowed to play. He thinks that their education is more important, and
that a player should adjust to being a student before taking on athletics.
I think this is very admirable, but there are academic rules in place that
protect the player if his grades slack off. 

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From: mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore)
Subject: UC 65 Dayton 55 (short)
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:08:58 GMT

UC escaped a tough game at Dayton tonight. First, Dayton is a TOUGH place to
play. They have 13,000 rowdy fans at home games, and have some decent players.
They played a triangle & 2 defense most of the game which left UC open for 
outside shots all night. For the most part UC failed to hit most of the open shots. UC was also forced to slow it down and try to work for good shots, this
took UC out of their normal offense. With 11 minutes left Dayton was up by 1,
but UC managed to hit a few 3's and convert from the line to make it look like
a easier game than it was. Dayton is like 1-7 but has come close against 
Michigan St. on the road and Vandy..
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Ohio St Greatest -- Results
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:12:03 GMT

fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:

>kwz26@cas.org writes:
>>Jeff Davis writes:
>>> kwz26@cas.org writes:
>>> >Michael Doel writes:
>>> >
>>> >I guess you could kick off Havelicek.
>>> 
>>> Noooooooboddddyyy expects the Spanish Inquisition. You are charged with
>>> the heinous sin of heresy...
>>
>>Maybe I can be sentenced to the comfy chair?
>>
>>Well "kick off" was a stronger term then needed.  I only wanted to relegate
>>him to the 2nd tier of a fairly strong list of hoopsters.  I still feel that
>>he was a better pro then a collegian, but I will defer to your memories as you
>>were undoubtedly older them myself during the Golden Age of tOSU Basketball 
>>and hence must have more vivid recollections. 

>Well, for one thing. Havilcek the collegian was exactly like Havilcek
>the pro: relentless, tireless, and devious.

>As for my memories, yes. I am old enough to despise Cincinatti for
>beating OSU two years in a row. Lucas, Havilcek, and Siegfried were
>my 3 earliest sports heroes. 

>Hondo, it should be noted, was also drafted by the Cleveland Browns as a 
>tight end. And played extremely well in their training camp.

BTW, ever think of naming top coaches for OSU, or this too stupid of a 
question?

I would list, of course, good old Fred Taylor, followed probably by
Randy Ayers.  Oh, and I'd put Eldon Miller definitely below 2nd, probably
even lower than that, based on his having SO MUCH talent (re: frosh class
of 1978, or was it '79) and not really going that far with the guys.  I
remember Herb Williams and a couple of guards from Barberton (damn, names
escape me now!).

allen
From: gil.levitch@tfd.gwinnett.com (Gil Levitch) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Defending Louisville
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Fifth Dimension - Louisville, KY - 502-423-8654
Reply-To: gil.levitch@tfd.gwinnett.com (Gil Levitch) 

Harveyc Chet X wrote:
>....Gil
HC>'d rather be a small fish in a big pond, if that pond is run by the best   coach in college basketball! When CR left the UNC program he told the world that TEAM play was not part of his game; and in no way shape or form does U of L stress Academics more (or better) than UNC. Rozier would have started last year and this year if his attitude was as good as his individual play.

I am assuming that you think that Dean Smith is a better coach than
Denny Crum. May be, but Dean has only won a single NCAA title in how
many years? AND with ALL that talent!

....Gil

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From: Curt.Hill@launchpad.unc.edu (Curt Hill)
Subject: UNC/Michigan - Top Teams...You eeediots!
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:39:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.191140.11220@news.tufts.edu> gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
>
>	And that's bad news if UNC is aspiring to a national championship.
>UNC is likely to meet teams of Michigan's caliber at the regional final level.
>If they have to win three toss-ups in a row for a nat. championship, that gives
>them only a one in eight chance.  Moreover, I think it is pretty clear that 
>there are teams out there that are superior to Michigan; by this token they are
>superior to UNC as well.  So, it stands that UNC must improve if they hope to
>win a national championship.

Gads.  What analysis.  How many teams are in the top class this year?
It's an easy question.

Michigan, Kansas, IU, Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Seton Hall
then

Iowa

then

FSU, OU, Purdue, Arkansas, Arizona, and some other teams which
just aren't quite there.


By this token, there are potentially 6 teams better than UNC.  However,
the initial analyis was "UNC is likely to be upsetby any team during the
NCAA playoffs."  You pretty much handled this for me George, although that
was a strong statement for you to make aften UNC lost by 1 point to a top 6
team.



Basically, at this point, any one of 7 teams could win the NC.  Anyone who
wants to argue that any one of the seven is more likely now (by a long
shot) than the others is full of shit.

I don't think any of them will be significantly better than the other 6 by
the end of the season, although a pack of four or five could break away.



Just note that Michigan played a far sight better vs UNC than the did 
versus Duke a few weeks ago.  The potential in Ann Arbor is frightening
and I'm not writing them off yet.  As many folks are fond of quoting, "It
doesn't matter what you do until March".  Fisher, Smith, Knight, Krzyzewski,
and the rest have plenty of time to improve their squads.  And Fisher's
already showing great strides in less than a month.



Curtis Hill
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From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: LSU-Stanford results??
Keywords: tiguzz
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:33:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.152405.27884@nntpserver.chevron.com> hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>
>Well, anyone know the LSU-Stanford outcome?  I'm a Night Owl, but an
>11:30PM tip off is ridiculous.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>--J.J.

LSU 72  Stanford 63

Geert "All-Name Team" Hammink had 20 and Clarence Ceasar 18 on
6-12 3-point shooting.  The game was tied at 31 at the half and 
Stanford was ahead for the last time with 13:41 to go.  A few
minutes later the Tigers went on a 12-2 run to take command.
The Cardinal pulled within 6 at the 2:00 mark but that was as
close as they came.  LSU was 11-26 from 3-point range.

All this from this morning's SF Chronicle. I don't know how good
LSU is, but this sounds like at step forward for Stanford, 
as they have not played well at all against decent competition
until this game. 

Ken B.
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Utah pounds UW-Milwaukee
Date: 28 Dec 1992 15:46:14 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <27DEC199216243954@cc.utah.edu> ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP) writes:
>Utah 96	  U. Wisconsin-Milwaukee 62
>
   Well, thanks for the update. Boy what a disappointment. For the second
   straight year UWM went in to Utah playing well and got smoked big-time.
   I think Majereus hasn't forgotten that it took a shot at the buzzer by
   Utah to get by the Panthers two years ago. Von McDade had a big game 
   that night prompting Majereus to comment that "nobody has ever lit up
   one of my teams like that."

   Has anyone out in netland heard anything about McDade? He was drafted
   by the Nets and jumped around on a few CBA teams, but never stuck
   because of his attitude I had heard.

   Anyway, UWM is at Northern Illinois tonight. Let's get back on that
   winning track.

   --salty