From: chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU (Ta Fuh Chiam)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Installing Pathworks for VMS on Mac
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:40:54 GMT
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>buy it at 30% off, though).  MSA V1.1 (the Pathworks for the Mac) is available
>through the ESL.  Something tells me, though, that you have to do something on
>the Mac side to get it to be part of the Pathworks scheme of things.  What is
>this?
 
You need the media and doc set for the client. For Pathworks for MAC, the media
for the client actually comes on either TK50 or whatever media you want. You use
VMSINSTAL to install it.
 
>Question #1: Is a separate media (diskette?) needed for the Mac to get it to
>boot or otherwise start communicating with the Pathworks s/w on the VAX?  If
>so, does anyone have a diskette I could just copy?  DEC's charging over $300
>for media on this product.
 
See above. The way it works is that after you have install the client software
on the VAX, you will be able to see a MAC volume called Pathworks for MAC V1.1
which you can then connect to and actually install it on the MAC.
 
As to whether you can copy it from someone else, the answer is NO. You are to
purchase it.
 
>Currently the Mac's are running TCP/IP and doing it rather nicely.  I'd like my
>users to be able to continue to access other systems using TELNET, FTP, etc.
>after Pathworks is installed.  I'm told, however, that Pathworks for the Mac
>uses Decnet and/or Appletalk and can't use TCP/IP as a transport(?) layer.
 
Yes, Pathworks uses DECnet and Appletalk but I don't see any reason why you
cannot use TCP/IP as you already are doing.
 
>Question #3: How does Appletalk fit into the scheme of things here?  Does the
>Mac talk Appletalk, Pathworks on the VAX translates that to Decnet,
>rebroadcasts it, and is picked up by another VAX with Pathworks, where the
>disk/mail/print service is carried out?  Or does the Mac somehow send Decnet
>packets directly?  We don't have Appletalk currently running, BTW, so this
>seems like a lot of extra setup.
 
BOth Appletalk and DECnet are part of Pathworks. You MUST have AppleTalk for
Pathworks to work. As a matter of fact, I don't quite understand why you said
"We don't have Appletalk running" because I thought that AppleTalk is part of
the MAC operating system. How do you connect to your MAC server? DECnet is part
of Pathworks for MAC but you do not have to run it if you not need the
functionality of DECnet.
 
>Question #4: Am I using the right product to provide these services for my
>users?  What I'd like is file and print service, mail service, an X server for
>the Mac, and some TCP/IP capability.  Pathworks is 4 out of 5, but is there
>something else that gives all of the above?
 
If you want connectivity to the VAX, Pathworks for MAC is a good choice.
 
Ta Fuh Chiam
 
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