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From: swortzel@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Timothy T Swortzel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: The Swoon
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:19:41 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr8.184924.6895@uoft02.utoledo.edu> steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason steiner) writes:
>i purchased an the Swoon last summer & like it a lot, but i know almost nothing
>about the band itself. one of the people at the bookstore said they had gone
>out of print. anyone have any other info about these people? the album was 
>produced by Charlie Peacock & Derri Daugherty's name appears on it too.
>unfortunately, there are no lyrics included :( so if anyone has them or knows
>where to get them ftp i'd love to get a copy.
>
>it's a good disc. if you can still find a copy grab it quick. it reminds me
>a little of the Choir's Chase the Kangaroo (my fav. Choir album).
>
I don`t know all that much about the group, but a friend of mine, who was
signed by the same lable the Swoon is on, told me that they were kicked
off the lable because only one of the members were a christian.  If I can
find out anything else, I`ll post it.

Tim
From: jek@icf.hrb.com (Joe Karolchik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Amy Grant at Hammersmith Odeon - my impressions
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:11:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: icf.1992Apr6.191126.19055
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

In article <476@aldetec.oz.au>, mawson@aldetec.oz.au (Graeme Mawson) writes:
> In article <1992Apr1.141340.23794@city.cs> Lionel Tun writes:
> 
>>I went to see Amy Grant at the Hammersmith Odeon, London, on Monday. I
> [deletions..]
>>The most remarkable occurence for me was during a song with the words
>>`everything thats good comes from Jesus', I felt very strongly the
>>force of the Holy Spirit at _every_ mention of the name Jesus.
> 
> I recently saw Amy at the Entertainment Centre in Perth, Australia.  I really
> enjoyed the concert, but the most striking part of the entire show was *that*
> song - "Hope Set High".  I wholeheartedly agree that _every_ time she sang the
> chorus (and mentioned Jesus) I *knew* the Holy Spirit was there in force!!  It
> was *very* powerful for me and I was almost in tears.  I remember thinking to
> myself that it was really glorifying the Lord.  Well done Amy!
> 

I saw Amy at Merriwether Post Pavilion in Columbia, MD last summer and when 
she sang "Hope Set High" the first time she sang the chorus, the crowd started
cheering.  And she paused and said, "Are you trying to tell me something?"
I thought the place was going to fall in!  It was very powerful.

peace,
joe
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Subject: Re: Bruce Cockburn lyrics sought
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 13:55:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.195903.16796@news.eng.convex.com> moeller@convex.com (Tom Moellering) writes:
>I have seen
>used in 1 weekend several copies of the following:
>
>	Inner City Front (1981)
>	The Trouble With Normal (1983)
>	World Of Wonders (1985)
>
>I only bought WOW.  Should I buy the others?  How come there are cutouts of
>these all of the sudden?  Just come out on the market?  Been out for a long
>time?

I think "Inner City Front" and "The Trouble With Normal" were two of
the first Cockburn albums released on CD.  I don't know why they're
cutouts (other than the fact that Cockburn never has been and 
never will be a big seller), but you should run, not walk,
back to that music store and pick them up.

Yes, by all means buy them.  Actually, of the three you listed,
"World of Wonders" is probably my *least* favorite (that's not to say
that there isn't plenty of fine music on there too).  

"Inner City Front" is a sort of jazz-rock hybrid, with typically
strong Cockburn lyrics.  It's the first album after his divorce
and sounds, well - unsettled.  Songs about being lonely, looking for
love, trying to understand God's role in the process.  Highlights
for me are "The Strong One" and "The Loner," both of which feature
violin as you've never heard it before, and some staggeringly 
wonderful metaphors for salvation and/or human love ("When I was 
a torn jacket hanging on a barbed wire/You picked me up and tore
me out").  It's a really fine album.

"The Trouble With Normal" is great too.  It's more overtly political
than "Inner City Front," and the title track is a poetic commentary
on the political status quo that ends with the great line, "The trouble 
with normal is it always gets worse."  There's also one of my favorite
Cockburn songs on here, "Candy Man's Gone" - a pretty good swipe
at the Jim and Tammy Faye health and wealth theology that pulls no
punches:  "In the bar in the Senate in the alley in the study/
Pimping dreams of riches for everybody/Something for nothing, new
lamps for old/And the streets'll be *platinum*, never mind gold/
Well hey, pass it on . . . /Misplaced your faith and the candy 
man's gone."  Somehow I think folks like Amos and Isaiah would 
be proud.

Oh yeah . . . one more thing.  The next time you see *any* Cockburn
CD for cheap, *don't even ask* ;-)

>Tom (moeller@convex.com)

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
att!cblpo!ajw  or
ajw@cblpo.att.com
From: pedro@cs.umn.edu (Christopher T. Pedro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Michael Card concerts
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:59:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr11.205900.17160
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

Greetings!  For the past few springs, my friends and I have seen Michael Card
in concert here in the Twin Cities, and have really enjoyed his special way
of sharing the gospel through music.  So far, we haven't heard anything about
him returning to give another concert this spring.  Does anyone know his
concert schedule, and if he's going to be back in the Twin Cities?

Thanks in advance.

In Him, Chris

-- 
Christopher Pedro                     | "Could it be that He would      _|_
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities  |  really rather die than live     |
email:  pedro@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu       |  without us?"  -- Michael Card   |
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans)
Subject: Re: Dove Awards - Really Embarrassing!
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 16:07:20 GMT

People are talking about bad or risque jokes that were told at the Dove awards.. could anyone post some?

thanks

chuck

-- 
Charles E. Evans           /  o     / Whereforeseeingwealsoarecompassedabout
cee1@ra.msstate.edu       / ./|\   / withsogreatacloudofwitnesses,letuslayaside
cee1@isis.msstate.edu    /   /|'  / everyweight,andthesindothsoeasilybesetus,
cee1@msstate.bitnet     /    , ' / andletusRUNwithpatiencetheracethatissetB4us.
From: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu (SUBU Ramasubramanian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Indian classical music concert at Purdue
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:19:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr7.071933.2410
Reply-To: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

========================================================================
<         INDIAN CLASSICAL MUSIC ASSOCIATION OF PURDUE
<         --------------------------------------------
<                    PRESENTS A FLUTE RECITAL
<                            BY
<                      DR. N. RAMANI
<
<A.KANYAKUMARI (VIOLIN)              GURUVAYUR DORAI (MRIDANGAM)
<-----------------------------------------------------------------

			FLUTE: An indian wind instrument
			MRIDANGAM: An indian percussion instrument
==================================================================

<DATE: TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1992         TIME: 7.30 PM
<VENUE: NORTH BALLROOM, PURDUE MEMORIAL UNION
<       WEST LAFAYETTE, IN 47907
<
<TICKETS: $7 (STUDENTS), $10 (OTHERS)
<         AVAILABLE AT
<         LOEB AND HALL OF MUSIC OFFICES
<FOR TICKET INFO CALL (317) 494 3933

 NOTE FOR FOLKS COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF LAFAYETTE:
 1.Overnight accomodation can be arranged for a max. of 10 persons; let
 us know in advance (email to ramakril@vm.cc.purdue.edu)
 2. Preferably reserve your tickets in advance
 3. Children below 10 will not be permitted
 4. Directions -

Take I65 (South /North) and exit at State Road 25
After the ramp take a left onto 25 South towards
Lafayette.
At the first Trafic Lights (TL) take a right onto
US 52 West
Keep going on US 52 W, pass two TL
On the third TL take a left onto Yeager Rd.
(At this light you should see a Amoco gas station
just ahead of you and ACE Hard Ware Store on your right)
Take a left onto North Western on the next TL
Keep going on North Western. You should see Smittys on
your left after passing the first TL. After this TL
pass one more TL. On the third TL, you should see a McD
on your left and University Buildings on your right.
You are now on the intersection of North Western and
Stadium.

Pass the next TL and take a right onto State St on the
second TL.
Take a right onto Grant St. on the next TL and park in the
garage on your right, which is right after you make the
turn.
North Ball room is in the Purdue Memorial Union
which is opposite to the garage.
From: burtp@aix01.1 (Philip Nason Burt)
Subject: Re: mercy seat ???  ever heard of them?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:16:45 GMT

In article <44054@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes:


	   Yeah, Mercy Seat is usually described as a punk/gospel sort of
   band -- I've seen one release by them (seen, not heard).  Gordon Gano
   of Violent Femmes did play with them, but according to an interview he
   did with Harvest Rock Syndicate a few years ago he didn't consider it
   *his* band -- just another excursion.
	   Gordon Gano is definitely the reason for the Christian
   influence in Violent Femmes -- he's the sole lyricist and lead singer.
   Anyone else heard their latest album ("Why do Birds Sing?") and care
   to comment.  I haven't listened to it yet.  (Gee, I am so far behind
   on my need-to-buy list that it isn't funny anymore.)

Well...

My roomate got "Why do Birds Sing" for Christmass and I think that I
like it ten times as much as he does.  As usual they have a mix of
songs about emotional, spiritual, and sexual frustrations.  "Lack of
Knowledge" is an expression of not being able to understand the
justice of God from the OT.  How this reflects on the relationship
that these guys have with God; I don't know.  Most of the other songs
are about life in general.  A couple are about relationships:  "Look
Like That (I'm meeting people)", "Used to Be" - this song is
absolutely beautiful!.  And of course one song about sex - "Girl
Trouble".  Although this song is somewhat offensive I doubt that you
will find a person that won't at least chuckle a little bit before
tossing the album into the fire.  This album is worth the money!

				later,

				phil burt
				burtp@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: Tom Moellering <moeller@convex.com>
Subject: Re: Larry Norman - heart attack?
Originator: moeller@aspen.convex.com
Reply-To: moeller@convex.com (Tom Moellering)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:47:26 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Apr13.150801.4318@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (R.L.Taylor KB2OOA) writes:
>So - can anybody confirm or (hopefully!) refute this story?  And

Yep it is true.  Its in the April issue of CCM.
Sorry, I don't have my copy with me at the moment, so I cannot
recite the blurb on this.

Tom (moeller@convex.com)
From: superc@doc.ksu.ksu.edu (Shawn E Chase)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Christian Rap (for Hammer Heathens)
Date: 17 Apr 1992 12:48:38 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: doc.ksu.ksu.edu


the dopest, stooopidest christian rap group without a doubt is SFC, soldiers for
christi. followed by idol king, freedom of soul, dynamic twins, et.al. any rap
group on the Broken label is worth automatically picking up, except jc and the
boyz, they have a new one, but i havent heard it . all i know is their first one
sucked, but most christian rap did suck at the time of their first release!!
check out sfc, d2, idol k, and fos ..... stay away from mike e and the gcrap
crew...oh, another great christian rapper is E-Rock...he has dope rhymes, and
solid thumpin beats also... peace to all  supe
From: psurge@cs.utexas.edu (Troy Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: "Jesus is Just Alright"
Date: 10 Apr 1992 11:35:30 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: sahara.cs.utexas.edu

In article <9204082054.AA11656@chippo.Prime.COM> mrs@CHIPPO.PRIME.COM (Michael Seher) writes:
>
>
>	I have a question about the song "Jesus is Just Alright" by the Doobie
>Brothers(yes, I _do_ know what their name is referring to).
>
>	The song is from the early-to-mid 70's, a point in time when "it was
>cool to be a Jesus freak"(to borrow a phrase that was used a lot in my
>conservative, midwestern high school.  Does anyone know whether the DB's felt
>like doing a positive, non-traditional song about Jesus or were they ridiculing
>him?
>
>	A few lyrics I remember from the song
>
>		"Jesus, He's my friend"
>		"He took me by the hand, led me far from this land"(?)
>		"Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright, oh yeah"
>
>	Thanks in advance.
>
>		Mike

Well, it is like you said, the song is from the "Jesus Freak" time period.  I
think it is a clear case of muddling the issue to cash in on a fad.

Take a look at the line "Jesus is just alright with me...".  There is no
commitment in that line.  It follows from most philosophies that Jesus is
"just alright".  Many religions see him as a prohpet, just as mohommud (sp!!).
The new age has embraced Jesus as just a man who evolved into Spiritual 
"oneness" with "god" (read the infinite).  To those religions, Jesus is
"just alright" also.

To me, Jesus is NOT "just alright".  Jesus is my Lord and Savior.  He is King
and formost in my life, the one I want others to see in me.

There are many things in this world that are "just alright" with me, but 
that in no way means I participate or support those things.

ps-I heard this song at the gas station the other day for the first time in
a long time.  Got me to thinking about some of this stuff also.




                                Troy Carpenter
                        Department of Computer Sciences
                        THE University of Texas, Austin
                              psurge@cs.utexas.edu

"You're so open minded that your brain leaked out" - Steve Taylor

*>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The best thing in life costs exactly that <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<*

Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: gclapp@javelin.sim.es.com (Glenn Clapp)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Jesus Northwest '92 Info
Keywords: Jesus Northwest Info
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:29:54 GMT

In article <zulkarna.703392353@sfu.ca> zulkarna@fraser.sfu.ca (Connie Zulkarnain) writes:
>Greetings...
>	I know that information on Jesus Northwest 1992 was posted sometime ago,
>but I couldn't find it. So if someone would kindly post it again, or e-mail me,
>I'd really appreciate it.
>	Thanks in advance.
>
>--Connie 

Jesus Northwest Festival
P.O. Box 17879 
Salem, OR 97305
(503) 393-1613

Pricing from $19 to $40 (by April 20, depending on group -vs- individual,
1 day -vs- full 3 days).  Prices go up to $25 - $49 at the gate.

Call them, they will send you info.

Who will be there:

Tim Lahaye
Frank Peretti
Michelle Perry and Band
Mylon & Broken Heart
Petra
Kenny Marks
Steve Camp
DC Talk
Russ Taff
Kim Hill
Mike Warnke
Steven Curthis Chapman
DeGarmo & Key
Michael W. Smith
more...

-- 
| Glenn Clapp                          |  gclapp@javelin.sim.es.com        |
| Evans and Sutherland Computer Corp.  |  My opinions are my own, but then |
| Salt Lake City, Utah  (801) 582-5847 |  that's my opinion.               |
From: burtp@aix01.1 (Philip Nason Burt)
Subject: Re: The Swoon
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:22:13 GMT


In article <1992Apr8.184924.6895@uoft02.utoledo.edu> steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason steiner) writes:

   i purchased an the Swoon last summer & like it a lot, but i know almost nothing
   about the band itself. one of the people at the bookstore said they had gone
   out of print. anyone have any other info about these people? the album was 
   produced by Charlie Peacock & Derri Daugherty's name appears on it too.
   unfortunately, there are no lyrics included :( so if anyone has them or knows
   where to get them ftp i'd love to get a copy.

   it's a good disc. if you can still find a copy grab it quick. it reminds me
   a little of the Choir's Chase the Kangaroo (my fav. Choir album).

same deal here!!!!

I tried to post an article allong these same lines a while ago, but
the stupid news reader thingy didn't work!  I bought the Swoon a while
ago and haven't heard anything since.  Allong with this, the picture
on the sleve is so distorted i would never be able to pick any of the
band members out if I passed one of them on the street.

	Anyway, Tonio K. is another one that I haven't heard anything
from since his "Notes From a Lost Civilization" album.  "Romeo
Unchained" is definately a step above "notes", but that is no reason
for him to stop making his incredible music.

has anyone heard from these guys??

				later,

				phil burt
				burtp@rpi.edu
From: jrh28960@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jason R Holdman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: dove awards typical
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:25:29 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

superc@doc.ksu.ksu.edu (Shawn E Chase) writes:

>once again, the dove awards give awards to the obvious. since sandi has had a
>release within the last 2 years, of course she'll win. lalalalalal. mike w smith
>did deserve song of the year for place in this world, since it was up for a
>grammy. but, all the dove awards are are the christian version of the grammy
>(granny) awards, IMHO. it seems everyone always wins the same thing every year
>and that all the old farts (sandi, etc) could never be left out, just like bruce
>springsteen and miochael jackson always win a grammy for something of another.
>I'm not crowing on margaret becker, but Rock album of the year??? is this a joke.
>obviously a sick one at that. when i think of rock, i think of mastedon, halo,
>petra, etc....not contemporary christian margaret becker. excuse me! MEtal album

	I was disappointed with the way they did the sound for PETRA's number. All I could hear was Schlitt's vocals. I didn't even hear Hartman, and they also cut his solo.

	
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: Tom Moellering <moeller@convex.com>
Subject: Re: GIANT - Time To Burn ?
Originator: moeller@aspen.convex.com
Reply-To: moeller@convex.com (Tom Moellering)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:41:03 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Apr8.225322.1286@den.mmc.com> ewh@teserv.den.mmc.com (Ed Householder) writes:
>
> I just purchased the GIANT - Time to Burn  album.
>
> I was sincerely dissapointed, not due to the music, but due to the
> lyrics.  This was the first GIANT album that i purchased.  I expected
> it to be more christian because of dan huff.  Is this the same dan huff
> that appears on Michael W. Smith's "Big Picture".  I believe that I 
> saw dan huff with david meece here in colorado, is this the same guy?
>
> I do not require an album to use Christ's name in every songi to enjoy it.
> However, the lyrics were mostly depressing, or overtly sexual. For example
> "all i want to do is make love to you."
>
> Do others out there believe that this is a christian album?
>
>						 sincerely
>						 ed householder
Ed:

I was not aware that they had a new album out.  I have their debut:
Last Of The Runaways.  And I came away with the same impression of that
that you seem to have had with their newest.

I believe the basis for this band is 2 Christian brothers:  Dave and Dan Huff.
They are session players on almost everything that you see out there.
Especially when the people don't have a band of their own.  (e.g. not Petra,
but MWS)  I am not aware as to the 'spiritual-status' of the other 2 band
members.

I thought their music was good.  Just not unique.  And I have to agree
that the lyrical content has nothing to do with even a Christian attitude.
Nothing lyrical or musical to really distinguish them from any of the other
billion secular bands in the world.

Sad,
Tom (moeller@convex.com)
From: ecaxron@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Bruce Cockburn lyrics sought
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:02:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ariel.6APR199214025984
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I have a copy of Bruce Cockburn's _World of Wonders_ on cassette, which
I bought at a garbage sale (of all the places!) last year.  I fell in love
with it, and listen to it all the time.  This particular cassette sez, 

	SEE ALBUM FOR LYRICS

and nobody carries the album.  If they did, they wouldn't let me read the
liner notes to see the lyrics.  Would anyone having this wonderful album
volunteer to send me a copy of the lyrics, so's I can avoid special-ordering
the album (which I don't even know is still in print)?  Send e-mail for
address or fax number.  Copyright-related flames can be sent to the round
file.

RG
From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Suggestions for *REAL* Dance Music
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:38:11 GMT
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Check out the band named Donderfliegen.  If you like the European-techno-pop-
dance style music, you'll love them.  I have their song "What Faith?" on a
sampler CD.  It should give you quite a workout ;-)


--

    Mike
    
    "in this day & age...music performed by humans...hum?!" 
       - wilde silas tomkyn
From: ee2g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eleen N. Kamas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Music Clubs (repost)
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:42:33 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> Excerpts from netnews.rec.music.christian: 13-Apr-92 Re: Music Clubs
> (repost) Scott Estabrooks@comm.wa (1703)

>  His catalog is about 16 pages long with @ 30 artists per page.

>    Address: Christian Book and Supply
>             481 Great Road
>             Acton Ma. 01720
>             1-800 323-3947

> If anyone has actually ordered from him over the phone, I'd be curious
> how it
> worked out for you.  I'll be needing to call in an order soon, as he
> doesn't 
> stock as full a selection in his store.


I've ordered by phone a couple of times, and gotten mixed results.  The
first time I ordered, the CD's arrived in about a week.  The second time
I ordered, after waiting a month, I called back, and found that two of
the CD's I wanted were on back-order, so they were holding the whole
shipment until they came!  Once I cancelled the out of stock ones, the
rest arrived promptly at my door.  So I just want to warn you to check
to be sure that what you want is actually in stock, or you may end up
waiting a long time for them to arrive.

On the other hand, I've had some wonderful conversations with the owner
while ordering, and he's quite friendly and helpful.

Eleen N. Kamas
ee2g+@andrew.cmu.edu