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From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Subject: Re: What to do and see in Hong Kong.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:08:54 GMT

In article <990011@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> kinch@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com
(Kinch Malapitan) writes:
> ... There is a night market by Nathan Road and it's
> open (I think) until 1am or 2am... You can't miss this one since everyone heads
> to that direction every night... They close blocks and blocks of streets so the
> vendors can set up shop... In terms of food, I personally like seafood and they
> have plenty of them there - however, the water there is dirty and I didn't want
> to take a chance on getting sick... If you're more daring then make sure you 
> take some medicine (like Immodium - this is stronger than PeptoBismol) just in
> case you get sick... Have fun !!!

Five of us went a couple of years ago and ate a wonderful seafood dinner at one
of the outdoor restaurants there with absolutely no problems.  In fact, we ate
all sorts of food all through Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore from
outdoor stands, restaurants, etc., and never had a problem.

Evelyn C. Leeper  |  +1 908 957 2070  |  att!mtgzy!ecl or  ecl@mtgzy.att.com
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From: Steve_Lammert@transarc.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Lanc. PA -> Boston
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:57:40 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

ljd2@gte.com (Leonard D'Alotto) writes:
> Hope this helps.  My wife is from the Reading area, and with family
> throughout NY and Ct. we have been on all routes at all times.  My
> advice is get to Rte 22(?) in Allentown and follow the appropriate
> highway to the Garden State Parkway (You will need to check a map as I
> can't remember the route numbers and do not have a map in my office)....

Thanks for the advice, but I prefer to barrel right through NY NY on
the GW/Cross-Bronx axis.  The Tappan Zee / I-84 route adds more than
an hour to the trip.  It might be worth it during a weekday rush, but
not on a Saturday morning.

I'm looking for specific information on the restrictions on the
Hutchinson River Pky / Merrit Pky.  Do you know if light trucks are
permitted (U-Haul 10' van)?  Otherwise, I'll end up on I-95, which
isn't as good (read: interesting) a road IMHO.

Steve
From: bvaughan@lotka.Princeton.EDU (Barbara Vaughan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Eurail pass costs?
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:39:05 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <a2824ag.715590174@sunmanager> a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager) writes:
>Hi
>
>Some friends of mine are coming over to Europe for one month, They'll be 
>visiting Germany, Belgium, Holland and England. What will the cost of a 
>Eurail pass be? Is it the best alternative?

A Eurail pass may not be a worthwhile purchase.  It's not valid in
England, and the Britrail pass is not worthwhile unless you ride in the
train every day.  If you stay in London or another large city, you can
make day trips to nearby places very cheaply using the one-day return
tickets.  Long-distance coaches are also much cheaper than trains in
England and also often travel more scenic routes.  Belgium and Holland can
be covered with the much cheaper Benelux pass, which a travel agent can
get for you outside of Benelux.  Germany also has its own railpass and
cheap excursion tickets. 

Barbara Vaughan
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:27:42

Ian Malone writes:
>Well, because the economy and standard of living in the States is
vastly
>superior to that of european countries, [...]
>  Unlike many of the people I meet in Europe <I live here>,
>Americans are not used to acting like scared, repressed sheep.

As another American living abroad, i am annoyed by this attitude.
I don't know how it is where you are, Mr. Malone, but neither
of these statements can apply up here.  My standard of living
as a middle class person in Norway does not differ significantly
from what my standard of living was as a middle class person
living in the States.  And while Scandinavians have a partially
deserved reputation for being "reserved", this is a very long way 
from being "scared, repressed sheep".

In my opinion the reputation Americans have abroad is undeservedly
bad, and mostly due to overgeneralization.  Returning the
overgeneralization, and attempting to pull up the reputation of
the US by comparing other people's countries to it unfavorably,
are not going to help the situation.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
From: clark_b@cho006.cho.ge.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Need: B&B in Burlington VT
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:18:13 GMT
Organization: GE Fanuc Automation, North America


Can anyone recommend a bed & breakfast in Burlington VT?  I have
no particular requirements in mind.

Thank you.
From: jkeyes@East.Sun.COM (John Keyes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Far East travel questions
Date: 2 Sep 1992 14:01:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jkeyes@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: boat.east.sun.com


I will be traveling on business in the Far East for about 2 1/2 weeks
in the near future, and have a few questions that I hope folks can help
me with.  I know little about traveling in that part of the world.

I'll be going to:
	Taiwan
	Korea (Seoul)
	Singapore
	Malaysia (K.L.)
	Manila
	Hong Kong

- In which of these countries will I be able to use my AT&T Master Card
  to get cash advances in local currency via an ATM?

- In which of these countries are there ATMs that have access or
  connectivity to popular US ATM networks?  I.E., where is it likely I'll
  be able to use my bank ATM card?

- Suggested shots or vaccinations?  I'll be asking my doctor soon, but
  others have suggested to me polio/tetanus (get shot not liquid?),
  hepatitis A, malaria/typhoid (shot might make me briefly sick?), and
  cholera.  I've had the usual US vaccinations as a child, so what should
  I be concerned about now?

- Any suggestions on what I should be sure to bring?  Medications?

- Will shopping in Hong Kong be open on a Sunday, or should I
  try to arrange it so that I have a free weekday there?

Thanks for any help!
John
jkeyes@East.Sun.COM

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From:  SV@smena.russia.msk.su (S.V.Vasiliev)
Subject: For visitors to Moscow - offer
Reply-To: SV@smena.russia.msk.su
Organization: unknown
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:44:42 +0300 

Hello, netters,

If you are going to visit Moscow and to accommodate and spend your time
quaranteed cheap and interesting - our information is for you.

The hotel 'Russia' is one the central hotels in Moscow. We propose you the
2-rooms appartment at the 6 floor. Windows at Red Square and Kremlin: the
better view you could ever imagine!

It is our constant appartment but during summer it will be empty and you can
use it. That's why it will cost $70 cash only instead of $150 per day common
price (this price - till September). That's is very suitable for couples.

Those travellers who want to save money most of all, we offer the summer
discount conditions:

A. Home-stay with russian family or single flat ($20-40 per day) with all meals
and tourist programme (or without it - upon your choice).
        The cheapest variant (a room in a flat, breakfast only, no programme) -
$12 per day.

B. Cheap ($25-45 per day) hotel with tourist programme.

C. Any types of tourist programmes: sightseeings, visiting of Kremlin,
cafedrals, monastries, White House of Russia, places of interest, aero-cosmic
points, museums, meetings on professional or political interests, etc.

D. Studying language and Russia folk-handicrafts ($30-50 per day). Visiting
the world famous centers of Russian folk-painting handicrafts: Chochloma,
Cholyi, Gorodets, Fedoskino, etc.

Visa application as well.

Don't hesitate to contact me for further information.

Sergey Vassiliev, Moscow

SV@smena.russia.msk.su
fax 095-205-4403 or 205-4457



Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.backcountry
From: watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC)
Subject: a visit to edward abbey land
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 21:54:48 GMT


Hey Folks,

I've got 2 week of vacation I've got to use by the end of the year,
and I've sort of decide to see some more of the American Southwest
(was there once when I was young).
I'd like to make a nice loop down to Big Bend NP, and then come
back through all the little parks in southern Utah. 

From now until January, when is the best time for such a trip? 

Somewhere I heard Fall is a neat time to visit, 
(I figure it should be cool enough by sometime in the middle of
Oct.), but would it be prettier to wait until around Xmas?

Please send mail and I will post a summary if requested.
Thanks you for any suggestions, 
John
John S. Watson, Civil Servent from Hell          ARPA: watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov

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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Any Britrail experts out there?
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:37:42 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca's message of 17 Aug 92 21:57:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.215730.328@unixg.ubc.ca> banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji) writes:

   SOLUTION #1: Fly to Manchester, take a train to Bradford
   SOLUTION #2: Fly to Heathrow, take tube to King's Cross, and IC to Bradford.
		If nothing direct is available, take an IC to Leeds and change
		to a local there.
   SOLUTION #3: Fly to Heathrow, take a bus to Stevenage, and take northbound
		IC from there as in #2.

	   The choice between #1 and #2/#3 depends on the relative air fares
   to Manchester and Heathrow. My question relates to option 3. Does anyone
   know about the frequencies of buses to Stevenage? Do they go to the
   railway station or somewhere else? More importantly, do the ICs to Leeds
   and Bradford stop at Stevenage? This information was not given in Thomas
   Cook's timetable.

You'd get a far more frequent InterCity service by travelling from London
rather than from Stevenage; it's also quite easy and convenient to find the
Heathrow tube stations and go via tube to King's Cross.  For the InterCity
train, I'd guess that you'd have to change at Leeds or York, but I don't know
for sure.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:18:29 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <3799@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>In article <13820@chalmers.se> d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell) writes:
>>  When I travelled in the US, we had to put a Swedish flag on our car to 
>>avoid being mistaken for "loud irritating obtrusive German tourists".
>
>  When Japanese travel abroad, we are told to bring a Japan-made camera
>or camcorder to promote export...8-)

  Unfortunatley Swedish cameras (Hasselblad) is so damn expensive:(

>--Michiaki

-bertil-
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From: gcopmse@state.systems.sa.gov.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: re: loud americans and others
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:53:13 GMT
Organization: State Systems, South Australia

that letter must have taken alot of thought . i agree with alot of what you
have said but it must be said of alot of tourists. once you have entered a 
new country you have to take on the responsibilities of the law and the
religion i am an australian and to often i have seen fellow aussies
(mostly in asian countries because i like travelling in this region) have
little or no respect for our neighbours customs they act and think

as if they are of a higher class. people i feel like this should stay at 
at home and see how far they get . they must remember that they are the aliens
and not the locals i must admit there are your good and bad tourists from all
walks of life and its sad to say that many of them adopt this attitude of lets
change while on holidays. holidays are meant to be for relaxing enjoying new
and interesting place cultures,foods and sceneries not to go and make an ass of
yourself but worse the country which you represent. i feel you will get alot of
feedback on this subject as the majority of net users are american.
one comment i heard ood up and said 'oh didnt you hear who won the war in iraq
me was said by an american and that in a discussion about world events  'one
bright young g about who won the war in iraq it was irl stood up and said about the war in iraq  and she said oh
 there was silence , then she said proudly 'it was america' i may be wrong but
i think this may have been a general consensus among the 'traveeling americans
i spoke to. wasnt it a united nations peace keeping force ? acting under their 
guidelines and instituted by stormin norman ?>
best of luck with your question 



group is posted to alot ofbeleive in what you have 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: coy@guinness.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Coy Correll)
Subject: Hurricane Andrew: Bahamas
Followup-To: rec.travel
Keywords: storm Bahamas 
Organization: Dazix - An Intergraph Company
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:21:55 GMT

Does anyone have any knowledge of the extent of the destruction
from hurricane Andrew in the Bahamas?  I am particularly interested
in the Nassua area.

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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: NEW YORK SKYLINE
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:23:30 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <1992Sep3.164536.4292@meaddata.com>, joyce@meaddata.com writes:
|> Could somebody please tell me where I can get a good view of 
|> the New York City skyline? I want to get some pictures either
|> early in the morning or at sundown. Thanks!

I've long been partial to the view from the Roosevelt Island
aerial tramway.    However, I'm not sure how early in the morning
they start up.   Anyone from NYC want to add more details?

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Sri Lanka
Date: 4 Sep 1992 13:58:25 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY - Sri Lanka
============================================================
SRI LANKA - WARNING
 August 31, 1992

Summary:  The Department of State advises U.S. citizens traveling 
to or residing in Sri Lanka to avoid all travel to north and east 
Sri Lanka until further notice, because of the on-going armed 
conflict between the government and Tamil separatists.  In addition, 
while the main business and tourist destinations in western, central 
and south Sri Lanka are generally calm, several terrorist bombings 
in or near Colombo since early 1991 have caused numerous civilian 
casualties.  Although there is no direct threat to U.S. citizens in 
Sri Lanka, there is a general risk of being inadvertently caught up 
in random acts of violence.  End summary.

Fighting between government security forces and the Tamil extremist 
group, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), continues in all 
parts of the north and east of the island of Sri Lanka.  The 
security situation remains unsettled and volatile, and consular 
services and protection cannot be guaranteed in those areas.  U.S. 
citizens should avoid areas such as Wilpattu and Galoya National 
Parks.  While the Yala National Park and the cultural sites of 
Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa are not affected by the fighting at 
this time, U.S. citizens should exercise caution and contact the 
Consular Section of the U.S. Embassy in Colombo before venturing to 
those areas.  Travelers may also encounter roadblocks staffed by 
security personnel, and should follow closely any instructions given.

The center and south of Sri Lanka, including the capital city of 
Colombo, the western beaches and the hill (tea) country, are 
generally calm, and travelers report few problems there at present.  
Since early 1991, however, terrorists have been responsible for 
several bombings in or near Colombo, resulting in numerous civilian 
casualties.  Although there is no direct threat to U.S. citizens in 
Sri Lanka, travelers should be alert to the continuing threat of 
terrorism in the capital. 

Outbreaks of Japanese encephalitis, dengue fever, hepatitis A, and 
typhoid occur periodically in Sri Lanka, including Colombo.  Malaria 
is prevalent everywhere outside of Colombo.  Visitors should ensure 
that all their immunizations are current, and use all available 
precautions to avoid contact with mosquitoes.

Because the situation in Sri Lanka can and does change very 
rapidly, all U.S. citizens are urged to register with the U.S. 
Embassy upon arrival.  The U.S. Embassy is located at 210 Galle 
Road, Colombo 3, Telephone 448007.

 No. 92-164

This replaces the previous travel advisory of January 17, 1992, 
with only minor changes.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: johansc@hedda.uio.no (Johan Schimanski)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for Oslo?
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: Comparative Literature - Oslo
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:58:50 GMT

CHEAPEST MEAL IN OSLO:

rumour has it there used to be still is a place on the East side of
Akerselva (a river) where you could get a meal for 10 kr (fat chance)...

BUT:
The evening meal (served between 5-6 pm) at Blitz (Pilestredet just north
of St.Olavsgt., 4-5 minutes walk from Nationaltheatret) used to be 20 kr.
It is usually good, vegetarian food, choice of one dish only. Somedays they
will be closed, because of concerts, demos, etc. During the day they serve
cheap cold food and waffels.

You can get a mexican meal on the 1st floor of the students cantine
building Frederikke for 25-30 kr, Blindern campus (line 13 to Blindernveien
station). On the second floor, same place, you'll get a meal of staple
Norwegian food for 30-50 kr. They close at 6 pm, however. There is also a
student cantine at the old university campus, on Karl Johans gt just below
the Royal Palace, serving the juridical faculty. This is much more central,
and I think the prices are similar. To find it, stand in the Old University
quadrant, with Karl Johan to your back and large old yellow buildings to
the left and right and in front of you. The one in front has an impressive
flight of stairs in the middle. There is a small entrance to the left of
these stairs: go left once inside, and the clatter of the cantine will lead
you on.

I have just been to the new Krishna Cuisine restaurant at Majorstua (all
western rapid transit lines). It's up a flight of stairs on the other side
of the tram stops from the rapid transit station. They serve an indian
meal, vegetarian, for 55 kr. Recommended.

If you want to meet people, try the Nordraak Cafe (walk up the impressive
approach to the royal palace, turn right before getting halfway, and you'll
find it on the other side of a road in the back of the Art Academy
(Kunstakademiet)). Open from the morning (during the day it doubles as an
art student cantine) to 4 o'clock at night. They serve alcohol, and some
(quite good) food (pie with salad and bread, 55 kr; tea 10 kr). During the
summer you can sit outside in the garden. A place to laze, drink beer,
read, not buy anything (there's no obligation), be depressed, meet friends,
play chess, go for a coffee after shopping, etc etc.

(note: Norwegian night life is not recommended to people who have problems
with cigarette smoke - they should come in the Summer, when you can sit
outside most of the night in one of the many outdoor cafes).

The cheapest supermarket chain is REMA 1000 (or was it RIMI? no matter).
Lorentzen is NOT cheap.

Johan Schimanski             johansc@hedda.uio.no
pb.1015 Blindern               N-0315 OSLO, Norway
+47-2-18 38 00                    +47-2-85 40 37
my love is like a liquid    it flow fitful day and night
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Subject: Bumbershoot in Seattle this weekend
Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:39:59 GMT


If you're thinking of visiting, next weekend is the biggest:  Bumbershoot,
our annual mixed musical festival.  Headliners include Little Feat,
Michelle Shocked, and many others.  The best part, of course, are all the
"little" groups one never hears about on the popular media.  It's a rela-
tively cheap event (except for the headliners) and this is the last 
weekend we can promise sunshine.  The ferries are great.

Bob Jacobson
From: woody@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk (Ian Woodrow)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Hotels in Prag?!
Keywords: prag hotel
Date: 27 Aug 92 07:51:55 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service

boerp@midget.saar.de (John Boerp) writes:

>Hi

>  I am looking for suggestions on Hotels / Motels (Boat-Hotels) in Prag. 
>  
>  We want to travel there from the third of october to the sixt of october 91
>  and we are looking for rooms which are not too expensive!

Here is one that isn't expensive.  It isn't a huge hotel.  Just a little place
but not dirty or dodgy.  In fact I was very impressed - the rooms have 2 beds
plus a little one and you have a shower in each room.  Breakfast is included,
you can buy meals any time - they have a TV in the dining room (so you can
catch up with the news).  It is accessible from Prague by taking tram No. 11
to the stop Teplarna Michle.  This tram passes Muzeum, so it is handy for the
Metro.  It also passes I.P.Pavlova which has a metro station.

I'm telling you all this first because you would probably switch off when you
seen the price, thinking it isn't possible to get a decent place with a bar &
restaurant with breakfast included for that price.

OK --- it's a big   250 Koruna per night ... that's about UKL 5 or just under
USD 10!

Address:    Chodovska Str O.N.J.
            141 00 Praha 4
            CSFR

phone       +42 2-76 28 58     02-76 28 58 from within CSFR
FAX         +42 2-20 13 26



            
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Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
From: amd@b30.ingr.com (Anand Das)
Subject: ONE WAY TICKET : NEW YORK to NASHVILLE/HUNTSVILLE
Keywords: plane ticket
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 21:13:27 GMT


Hi, 


 I have the following ONE-WAY ticket forsale


   Airlines : American Airlines

   Destination : New York to Nashville/Huntsville

   Date : 6th September

   Time : 6.50 p.m.

   Price : $125.00


  Date and time can be resheduled for an additional $25.00.


 If interested,  please call  205-730-3305 (Daytime)
                             205-464-9515 (Nightime)


Anand
 

 
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