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From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (H. R. Costigan)
Subject: Re: Neuromancer?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:57:30 GMT

rdna@matt.ksu.ksu.edu  writes:
> 
> Anyone know the word on Neuromancer. The back of the book has said soon to be
> a major motion picture for the last billion years. 

This has gotta be one of the big FAQs of sci-fi movies.  Latest
rumor is that casting decisions have been made for the stars,
not the director, and are as follows:  Bill Pullman as Case,
Tia Carrere as Molly, Paul Newman as Armitage.  As I said, this
is only a rumor, as is practically anything else said about a
film version of the book.  The script's been floating around
Hollywood for years now.  If these casting decisions are true,
they are inappropriate IMHO, but I don't know how seriously to
take them.

I've never seen any "soon to be a major motion picture" on the
book though.  Then again, my personal copy is sorta old, so it
might be missing such a blurb.  If this is true, then maybe a
little more creedence can be lent to the casting rumors.  But
not much. 
--
                               Curt Tsui
                           curt@Virginia.EDU                                  
    "I've got a peculiar weakness for criminals and artists -- neither
                takes life as it is." -- Stanley Kubrick
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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Under Siege
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:33:42 GMT

ltw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (LEE T WARNER) writes:




>Maybe for $3.50, but it wasn't worth the $4.00 dollars that I payed.

I thought it was great. Great villians, great setting, lots of neat
ways of killing people.

>  Let me pose this question:
>What is the use of a Segal movie if there are only a couple of fist fight
>scenes?  

Hey....you can't kill everybody with your hands. :)

>Is Steve's claim to fame the fact that he has a 7th degree black
>belt in ikido budo or his blackbelt in tae kwan do?  

6th degree in Aikido last I heard.

Of course, I've heard he has hinted at special forces type stuff, but
who knows?

>What's the fun of jsut watching him shoot people?  

Just shooting people? Where were you? He used beams, knives, microwave
ovens, bombs, 16 inch guns, grenades, and probably a few other
implements of destruction I don't recall.

>Once again, the producers/director/etc.
>tried to give a plot to a movie that should be plotless.

Plotless? A great action movie demands a great villian. 

Under Siege had two! Bonus!

An added bonus was the setting, the USS Missouri. 

**** out of **** as an action movie.

*** out of ****  as a movie movie.


-- 

All the demands made by the Quebec Nationalists can be summed up in
just one: keep giving us new powers and the money to exercise them, or
we'll leave -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau , 1992

Each new ransom paid to stave off the threat of schism will simply
encourage the master blackmailers to renew the threat and double the
ransom -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau , 1992

schuck@sfu.ca              Vote No on October 26th
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Robocop 3 ?
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:30:05
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: mason's message of Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:10:21 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:10:21 GMT, mason said:

mason> I heard a rumor recently that Robocop 3 was finished and "in
mason> the can."  True or false?  I've always enjoyed action movies
mason> with little or no plot ...

I thought it was going to be out in the summer. I have already seen
merchandise for it, like model kits, and video games....

--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Lord of the Rings
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:54:40 GMT

koch7243@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>Hello All,

>I have heard stories that there is a animated version of the Lord of the 
>Rings flaoting about.  Is this true?  Is it any good?  How indepth does 
>it take the story?  Please email me or post the info if you know.  If 
>not thhhpppppttt! :)
>Also I saw the extended version of Dune and have a bad copy of it.  There 
>is not much diffrence.  I think that there was only 20 min. or so added.
>So it's not a big deal.

There are a couple of animated LotR films wandering around out there:

1.  You've got the Rankin-Bass films "The Hobbit" and "The Return of the
    King."  Both are available at Blockbuster Video (the one near me, at
    any rate).  

2.  Then there's Ralph Bakshi's "Lord of the Rings," which is probably
    the one you're thinking of.  Despite its title, the film doesn't
    cover the entire trilogy; it ends at the battle of Helm's Deep.  I
    believe a sequel was planned that would wrap up the rest of the
    story, but the first film died a (IMHO, well-deserved) death at the
    box office, so nothing further was ever done on the project.


I found the Ralph Bakshi film abysmal for a number of reasons: the 
bizarre and distracting technique of mixing live actors in the background
with the animated protagonists in the foreground; Saruman's pink beard;
the apparent inability of everyone in the film to pronounce Saruman's
name correctly (they leave out the "S," as I recall...if people did that
with my name, I'd turn evil as well); shoddy animation and drawing; and
a plotline that moves so fast and leaves out so many details that someone
not familiar with the story would probably be hopelessly confused, and
those who have read the novels would feel cheated at the omission of 
many important and neat scenes (Treebeard gets maybe 20 seconds of screen
time, for example).  Nevertheless, I appear to be in the minority w/r/t
my poor opinion of the film, at least on rec.arts.movies.  Besides, any
*true* LotR fan is required to absorb themselves in any and all LotR
material they can find, whether or not it's any good.  So go ahead and
rent it.

I was also disappointed by "Return of the King," by Rankin-Bass, although
I'd rather see that than Bakshi's version.  The film seems more interested
in filling up space with lots of irritating songs than actually advancing
the plot, and I would rather have seen more attention given to the doings
at Minas Tirith and less to Frodo and Sam, and the course of events in
the film has been changed here and there for no good reason I can discern,
but there are worse ways to spend an hour and a half.

I enjoyed "The Hobbit," though.  Except for the omission of the company's
visit to Beorn, the storyline of the film is pretty much identical to
that of the book.  The songs are a lot more palatable, too, and the scene
with Smaug is terrific, IMO.


                              --Steve Stelter
                                sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: kimp@nuge103.its.rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Robocop 3 ?
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:27:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.a-1z4!-
Reply-To: kimp@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

In article <1687F2C9D.MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, mason writes:
|> I heard a rumor recently that Robocop 3 was finished and "in the
|> can."  True or false?  I've always enjoyed action movies with little
|> or no plot ...
|>  
|> "Life IS pain.  Anyone who tells you differently is selling something."
|> -- mason

I hope not, I thought Robocop 2 was the year's worst movie.
From: scott@nv10.uswnvg.com (Scott Eckelman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Wicked, Bad, Scary Movies. (Recommendations anyone?)
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:52:54 GMT
Organization: US West NewVector, Inc., Bellevue, WA

In article <1992Oct7.152508.5264@iti.gov.sg> hcleong@iti.gov.sg (Leong Heng Cheong (CCL Sch 10/92)) writes:
>In article <Bvr2K2.FFI@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> phd69@seq1.keele.ac.uk (R.D. Hayler) writes:
>>From article <1992Oct6.155450.43633@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, by brnt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Brent E. Dyer):
>>> 
>>> 	I'm looking for some really frightening movies.  I don't want any of
>>> [...]  I want some "I can't turn the light out until tomorrow
>>> morning because bad things might be coming for me" movies.
>>
>>	I'm not convinced those sort of movies really exist anymore.
>
>I think that the audiences now-a-days have more or less become numb to
>most of the plot devices ever invented that it is difficult to really
>scare the heck out of the audiences.

You may be right -- the last movie which really scared me was _The 
Exorcist_.  I would also vote for _The Haunting_, and _The Changeling_.
From: kbuckhu1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Keir Buckhurst)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Princess Bride - Script?
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:35:09 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing Center

In article <aZoJsB5w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>,
dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay) writes:
> 
> boltz@chopin.psu.edu (Mark Boltz) writes:
> 
> > I'm looking for anyone who may have a copy of the script to the Princess
> > Bride that they could email me.  If so, send it out to
> > 
> > boltz@vivaldi.psu.edu
> > 
> > if you could. I like the movie a lot, but find Montoya and others hard to
> > understand in some places.  (Like the duel with Wesley).  Thanx.
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------                        -----------------------------
> > boltz@vivaldi.psu.edu                         The Pennsylvania State Universi
> > "Buster" Boltz, Toonster Extraordinare                "...no relation"
> > "Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?"
> > 					Count Oxenstierna (1583-1654)
> > ------------------------                        -----------------------------
> 
> Same here. 
> 
> Dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
> 
> 


ditto.

keir

kbuckhu1@cc.swarthmore.edu
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From: djs@sadtler.com
Subject: Re: David Lynch movies
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:20:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.130848.10511@bsu-ucs.uucp> 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:

[list of DL movies]

>
>
>Wouldn't Eraserhead be included as a short movie?  I've never seen the whole
>thing, but I've always assumed it was a short.
>

Eraserhead was a full feature movie.

-- 
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Movies
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:20:02 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Oct11.173853.3466@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:

>>It is said that during the filming of _Marathon Man_, Sir Lawrence Olivier
>>observed Dustin Hoffmann getting himself psyched up for their "dentist from
>>Auschwitz" scene...

> Actually, I heard that story, slightly differently -- Dustin was playing a
> scene where he was exhausted...

I too had heard both of these "stories" and was very glad to learn the 
truth of the matter, from this very same group but a few months ago:


From: jameskau@aludra.usc.edu (James Kaufman)

>> I just came back from watching an interview/talk with Dustin Hoffman (for
>> a screening of HERO which I didn't see).  He seemed to be a really nice guy. 
>> I stayed after and got a chance to meet him face to face....  He's always
>> been one of my favorite actors, and it was nice getting a chance to hear
>> him tell different anecdotes, etc., about his different roles (i.e. the
>> true story of his interaction w/Laurence Olivier

Let's see....  A student asked him about the anecdote (the popular, incorrect
version of which has Dustin Hoffman staying up for three days to look
properly fatigued for a scene, and Olivier saying, "Why don't you just
try acting?").  Hoffman said that the popular story was a distortion of the
true story.  Here goes...
Hoffman was in New York, knowing that the scene would be filmed on a 
Monday.  Figuring that he had to look tired anyway, he went out and partied,
smoked pot ("Before we knew it was bad for us"), did the disco thing, etc.
He came to the set exhausted, and was perfect for the scene. (Which didn't
have any lines for him, just walking).  
Later, he was talking with Olivier, who he had become friends with.  Olivier
did indeed say "Why don't you just try acting"....But as a *joke*.  Olivier
was notorious in England for his risk-taking, dangerous performances
that were most definitely *not* just acting.  He had just done Hamlet in
which he jumped off a balcony, risking breaking his neck. In fact, Hoffman
said he and Olivier had a lot in common, and Olivier was, despite all the
Shakespeare acting, a basically fun (and vulgar) guy.
But when Hoffman mentioned the anecdote, the reporter took it out of context,
making Hoffman seem stupid and Olivier seem stuffy.  In fact, when Olivier
said it they both laughed for a long time.

James Kaufman
jameskau@aludra.usc.edu


Thanks alot James for the real scoop!!!

Greg Bole                               "You gotta look out for Goddamn
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             number-one, pardon-the-vulgarity."   
                                             Dustin Hoffman in _Hero_
From: rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:29:08 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: Banzai Institute


In article <23870@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, margaret@cs.arizona.edu 
   (Margaret Newman) writes:
> good part of a movie)  I hope that it is better than, say, that one
> with Louis Jordan climbing down the side of the castle.  Why climb down
> when ol' Drac could just fly -I mean, wouldn't that be easier?  You
> wouldn't get your clothes dirty, quieter, more freedom of movement.
> 
According to most vampire lore (tm), flying involved a shape change.
So to fly would involve Dracula's changing into a bat (or whatever).
Crawling on a wall may simply be easier, espescially for short distances.

Bear in mind that in Stoker's novel the wall crawling scene was an 
important one, showing a hint of the count's unearthly nature. I'm hoping
this scene is in the movie (and that it isn't screwed up...).

> Will this be as romantic as the one with Frank Langella? ( I probably
I wasn't particularly fond of the Langella version...

Richard Travsky
Division of Information Technology     RTRAVSKY @ CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
University of Wyoming                  (307) 766 - 3663 / 3668
From: beyond@diku.dk (Theo Engell-Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Movie Goofs list wanted
Summary: I don't know where to find the list, saw it long time ago...
Keywords: goof, movie goof
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:55:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen


Hi, does anybody have or know where to fetch the list of movie goofs ??
I spotted it here I guess half a year ago in this group and now it
seems to have vanished????

And please : Don't mail it to me, because I don't want a zillion copies
of it, only one!!! So mail me your e-mail adress, and nothing else
(apart from the confirmation that you have the list :). I will then
contact one of you....

Thanks (~"Paa forhaand tak", as we say in danish,
	Theo Engell-Nielsen, E-MAIL : beyond@diku.dk
From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: next ah-nold film
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:41:11 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA

In article <92286.104053U28698@uicvm.uic.edu> U28698@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> you haven't seen every side of him, until you've
> seen him in this.

Will he do a nude scene, look tough, and/or have his eyes
nearly pop?  I don't see his movies unless it has one of the
above in it :)

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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Gerard Depardieu
Date: 10 Oct 92 16:42:45 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

In article <nnvzabl@rpi.edu> Matt Garretson writes:
>While I'm not quite a fanatic, I've liked him ever since I saw JEAN DE FLORETTE.
>I'll have to cath up on his older stuff. I hate the way everyone in the US
>pronounces his last name "Depardoo".

How special for you.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
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From: jmauric@eng.clemson.edu (John Maurice)
Subject: Re: ALIEN 3 soundtrack
Reply-To: jmauric@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:38:33 GMT

Does anyone know what soundtracks are available in Surround?  Ive seen
Ben Hur and Gone With The Wind but didnt have enough money at the time
to buy them.  So far I only have the Surround Sampler.

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From: k084118@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Pamela S. Rivers)
Subject: Bob Roberts
Organization: Kalamazoo College
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:38:07 GMT

I just saw Bob Roberts today, and I really, really liked this movie.  I think
it portrayed politicians of our time pretty accurately, if not a litle bit
exagerated.  Has anyone seen this movie?


Pamela Rivers			| "I want somebody to share, share the rest of
k084118@hobbes.kzoo.edu		|  my life.  Share my innermost thoughts and
                                |   my intimate details.
				|  Someone who'll understand me, and give me
				|  support."  -Somebody by depeche mode

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From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Re: Clannad/Enya in movies 
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 09:53:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.055742.19425@u.washington.edu> redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick) writes:
>	Also, does she do the entire soundtrack for _Sleepwalkers_,
>or is it just one song?  And if it is just a couple of songs, have
>they been released elsewhere or are they only available on the 
>soundtrack album?

It's one song and it's on the soundtrack CD. And it's the best thing about it
together with the opening song, which is very unusual, since normally the
songs are the low points of today's soundtracks.
								M.H.
From: smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Your favorite obscure actors!
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:34:23 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

>>>>>Fred Ward (_Tremors_, _The Player_)
>>> _Remo_.
>>> _Henry and June_ 
>>>_Cast a Deadly Spell_.
>>_The Right Stuff".

He was also the lead in "Time Rider" - that one where where a cross-country
motorcycle racer with "technogoodies out of Silicon Valley" gets lost and
wanders into a reserved area where a time machine is about to be tested by
the gummint.

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
-
How about we all do something reasonable?  I bet that'll confuse 'em!
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From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Re: Wicked, Bad, Scary Movies. (Recommendations anyone?)
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:08:06 GMT

I put my vote for _The_Exorcist_III_, especially the night scene in the 
hospital where the nurse gets it.

*shiver*

hook
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: * The NEW Movie Goofs list!!!!!!
From: mbuc1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Matthew Richard     Buchanan       )
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:41:27 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <1992Oct7.182520@usho21.hou281.chevron.com> hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:

>|> ># Commando
>|> 
>|> -How 'bout when Arnold rips the car seat out of her red car.  Later on,
>|>  the car seems to have grown a new seat!

>   Or after those two cars bang each other around and the Porsche
>   flips over.  Later, Arnold flips it rightside-up and drives off
>   in an unwrecked car.

And then 2 secs later he pulls up outside the motel and once again the side
is totally wrecked... Panelbeaters nightmare...

Matt.
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From: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Dark Backwards
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:12:20 GMT

In article <QeqiHgK00iV002QIxl@andrew.cmu.edu>, mw2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Winston Woodring) writes:
> The Dark Backwards is out on video.  I picked it up at a mainstream
> store, so you should be able to find it.  Very humourous in its
> portrayal of futility.  Then again, just look out yer window . . .


So TDB just never saw (local?) cinema release then...  Well, I'll have to look
for it next time I'm out at the video store....under...comedy???

			-Matt McCabe
From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Name this Movie, win Gold Ingots
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:33:50 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes:

>So, sorry for pestering you BUT: can anyone name the highly-forgettable movie
>about a yuppie couple that gets into cocaine, then one of them decides to start
>selling?  They get addicted, things quickly spiral out of control, she sleeps
>with a gross guy for a fix, they break up, he falls apart, she steals all his
>money, he chases her, she dies (I think in a car bomb), it turns out the whole
>thing was a set-up, predictable ending, the whole 9?
>Anybody?

Sound to me like "the Boost", with Sean Young and James Woods.
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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Enchanted April and Michael Kitchen
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:52:50 GMT

Laurie Mann writes:

>My husband and I saw Enchanted April last night.  It was a lovely little movie
>highly recommended it you like reflective movies without murders and 
>gratuitous  
>sex.

>An actor named Michael Kitchen has a small but pivotal part as an oboeist.
>He's an English actor, 40-something, and I'm sure I've seen him in 
>something else recently but I can't remember what.  Does his name
>ring a bell for anyone?

He was the one who rented the castle out, right?

Do you watch Lovejoy? He played Lovejoy's daughters older
lover on a recent episode on A & E.


-- 

All the demands made by the Quebec Nationalists can be summed up in
just one: keep giving us new powers and the money to exercise them, or
we'll leave -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau , 1992

Each new ransom paid to stave off the threat of schism will simply
encourage the master blackmailers to renew the threat and double the
ransom -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau , 1992

schuck@sfu.ca              Vote No on October 26th