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From: pranav@evolving.com (Pranav Vakil)
Subject: Re: ISU vs NU Stats....
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:26:07 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.
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delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
: 
: 
: 
:  Those passing stats are abyssmal!!! Not even a 100+ yard passing game!!!!
: 
:  What, are all Big 8 teams rushing powerhouses, or are the pass defenses
:  awesome beyond belief, or is it the powerhouse rushing defense??
:  

Do you know how to read a paper???  If you did you would notice that Colorado 
is 7th in the country in passing offense.  Also, if Michael Westbrook gets 
21 yards receiving in the Iowa State game, CU becomes the fourth school in 
NCAA history to have 2 receivers over a 1000 yards receiving for the season. 
Not bad for a school that decided to change offensive schemes this year.  

In answer to your question: Yes, most Big 8 teams are rushing powerhouses, they 
always have been.  Nebraska and Oklahoma have always been able to run the ball
well.  Over the last few years, Colorado has proven that it can also run the 
ball.  I think in 1989, Nebraska, Colorado, and Oklahoma were ranked 1, 2, 3 in
rushing offense.  

--Pranav 
  (GO BUFFS!)

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From: mike@spss.com (mike cornwall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Barry Switzer tells the truth
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:10:25 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

Barry Switzer, who won three MNC when he coached at Oklahoma was asked,
Should there be a national chanpionship game in college football? 
Barry's reply - 

  "I liked mythical national championships because if I only had to beat 
  Texas and Nebraska and win the Orange Bowl I had a chance to win the 
  national championship. Why play the world when you only have to play
  two ball games."
						Chicago Sun-Times
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Mike Cornwall
mike@spss.com
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OSU beats Michigan: 13-13
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:44:02 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Nov23.150630.24448@bnr.ca>, lowery@bnr.ca (Gary Lowery) writes:
> In article <1ep67cINN9db@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci) writes:
> B.S. deleted
> 
> Hey OSU fans,  hype it up all you want, you still haven't beaten Michigan
> in 5 tries.  That's right 0-4-1.  When was your last Rose bowl appearance?

	Heh, and next November it will be two years since you beat OSU :).

	Let's see, our record against ranked opponents is 1-0-1.  MissedAgain's
record is 0-0-2.  Heh.

	We got 371 yards, you got a hundred less.  Herbstreit passed for that
many :).

	Our last Rose Bowl appearance is almost as long ago as the last time
Michigan had a coach with class.

	Face it, Michgian is the Miami of the Enormous Eleven.  Overrated, no
class, and running on empty.

	Jan 2nd, we'll have nine wins.  Michigan won't.
:D

Brett
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Big 8 Bowl paranoia
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:22:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.233053.6421@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:
>--
>>Let's hope for the best :)
>
>Uhh, Njan, sorry guy but you left one little factor out of the equation:
>
>	KU and ISU are no Miami, FSU, or Alabama

We'll see... how do you know how good Alabama is since they haven't played
anyone good yet?

I think CU would do well against any of the teams mentioned above... they might
not win, but they won't get blown out, either.

Just observed one interesting fact.. ( posted by someone in the net )
Nebraska's record on road this year is 1-2!!! Even that win was a close
one! On the other hand, their home record is 6-0, with blowout victories!
So what does that say about Nebraska's chances on the road against OU?

>Sorry but that blows your theory totally out of the water. About all I can
>say is that the enthusiasm you have for your team is commendable.

same goes for you... may the best big 8 team ( I mean the one which plays best
overall, not just at home :) ) go to the OB and blow out the weak ACC team!

>Huskers by 14 or more Friday. I just hope I'm not having a post Thanksgiving
>Crow dinner. Remember I did say that if the weather is bad then ALL bets are
>off.  ;^)

now, that's a good one.. trying to find an excuse for a loss beforehand to save
further embarassment?
:)

>Husker Henderson

Njan
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From: wessir@shelley.u.washington.edu (bill the cat)
Subject: PAC-10 HYPE
Summary: world vs. pac-10
Reply-To: wessir@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:33:55 GMT



RE: ARIZONA HYPE
Everybody is not hyping U of A.  Every UW fan did not call Arizona a creampuff!
Everybody is however, hyping Arizona Defense.  Nobody seems to be able to
score easily on them.  This week USC got 2 touchdowns and I'm not about to
hype the USC offense or say that Arizona let down.  What it is-
  PAC ten compitition is real tough because Stanford, Arizona, Washington, USC,
are capable of beating any team in the country "on any given saturday".  
Washington state, Oregon, and UCLA are capable of defeating any PAC-10 team 
"on any given Saturday".  There are only a couple of teams that aren't 
considered threats.  Washington didn't lose to the best team in the PAC-10...
Miami didn't beat the best team in the PAC-10.  
  The standings in the pac ten tell it all.
Washington is the best team; Stanford, Arizona, and USC prooved they can play
with the best but they aren't going to the ROSE BOWL!
wessir
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WOOF GODS STRIKES AGAIN! (was Re: WSU 42 UW 23)
Date: 24 Nov 92 05:18:08 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <26890027@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> privat@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jim Privat) writes:
>Jim from WSU replies:

This was me, actually, in a perterbed and relatively uncivilized moment.
>
>> > Hey, jack, WSU earned it.  I'll grant you that on the basis of raw
>> > talents UW should be 7 point favorites.  But WSU has a lot of talent

>To Dave from U of A, and Jim from WSU and all the rest out there
>who are probably now thinking that UW fans are all whiners who can't
>accept when the Huskies lose, I apologize.  We're not all like
>that.

Actually, Dave is *at* the UA but from WSU. And I've still earned
more degrees from WSU (2) than from the UA (1).  :-}  And once a
zealous Cougar fan, always one, even if you become a student
somewhere else.  :-}

I lived in Seattle a long time, and I know that all Husky fans
are not like that.  Just most of them.  :-}  Seriously, though,
this kind of attitude (or less obnixious flavors) are very
common in the Seattle area, where it is frustrating to be a
Cougar fan.
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The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: edquist@eng.umd.edu (Karl T. Edquist)
Subject: Re: Great Big 8 QBs
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:42:12 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Originator: edquist@apache.eng.umd.edu


In article <1992Nov19.143251.8737@sparky.imd.sterling.com>, marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson) writes:
>In a recent followup, I asked about the status of some of the great OU QBs and
>I got to thinking that there have been a lot of great QBs in the Big 8, what
>course did their careers take, and what are they up to now?  I've started a
>list, anybody know about these players? Anybody have anybody to add?
>
>   Darien Hagen - CU alum - NFL with whom?

Hagan was drafted by the 49ers in the 8th round I think.  He was projected as a kick/punt
returner, but he was one of the late cuts in training camp.  There was some talk a couple
of years ago that he might give baseball a shot if he couldn't make it in the NFL.  Word
is that he was a excellent shortstop in high school and the Blue Jays (?) gave him a 
tryout before he enrolled at CU.  I wouldn't be surprised considering the way he gave Big 8
defenses fits for three years.


Karl
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From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Subject: More Coaching Speculation
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:13:31 GMT

Arkansas officials were so impressed by the 24-19 thrashing SMU laid on the
Piggies Saturday in Little Rock, that they asked for permission to speak to
SMU head coach Tom Rossley as a candidate for their coaching vacancy.

This would leave the SMU head spot unoccupied, and I have taken it upon 
myself to come up with a list of potential candidates, and several reasons
why these men may desire the SMU job.

Bo Schembechler
	1.No pressure to win the Rose Bowl
	2.Wouldn't have to embarrass himself as TV commentator any more
	3.Could keep the same hat he always wears by telling people the "M"
		stands for "Methodist"

Lou Holtz
	1.If this man doesn't get out of South Bend soon, I'm afraid he's   
		going to kill someone
	2.SWC officials might like being put in headlocks
	3.Could tell reporters he's afraid of losing upcoming game and people
		would actually believe him

Mike Ditka
	1.Sniper fire at Soldier Field coming soon
	2.No pressure from friendly Dallas press corps 
	3.Warm-weather coaching would allow him to show off extensive 
		collection of Bermuda shorts

Earle Bruce
	1.He'll apparently work anwhere
	2.Wouldn't get fired for piling up 8-3 seasons
	3.SMU job could be a springboard to TCU job, which could be a spring-
		board to Baylor job, which could be a springboard to Texas  
		Tech job, which could...

Barry Switzer
	1.Beating Texas every year would actually be a challenge
	2.Deep Ellum, Greenville Avenue, and the West End offer far more 
		places to sow wild oats than Norman could 
	3.New experience : student-atheletes

Grant Teaff
	1.Could make public his love of lambada
	2.Leaving Baylor's anti-tobacco environment allows him to give up 
		disgusting worm-chewing habit
* And finally, for Jay Boisseau, thank you for the SWC news, this is for you *
	3.After the way SWC officials treated him at the UT game, he might not 
		want to leave the conference any more

Again, let me reiterate, this is pure speculation.  None of these men have
officially applied for the job in case of vacancy.

Comments welcome.

GT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Holiday Bowl (Illinois or MSU)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:37:48 GMT

	The Holiday Bowl has announced that the winner of the Illinois v.
Michigan State game in Champaign will go to the Holiday Bowl, regardless
of what Iowa does.  Iowa will go to the Copper Bowl if they should win.
So there will be three or four Big 10 teams in bowls, not including Penn
State.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham)
Subject: Re: How did the Illini choke?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:16:01 GMT

exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (|J| Exby) writes:
>beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham) writes:
>>Granted, Illinois is a weak team... very young, but still weak.  I would like
>>to give the team a few years, and give Lou Tepper a few years under his belt.
>>As for the weak conference comment... have you heard of a team from way up
>>north...  I don't know....    Ann Arbor I think....     
>>        HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN????????????
>>				   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>yeah, fichigan sucks.
>>Although this is the ONLY strong team in the Big-10... I think they compensate
>>SOME, for the rest of the conference.  Weak conference...  Whatever...
>you young un illini's sure have changed since my day  (sigh)
>look dude!  you don't wave the enemy around as the pride of
>your conference.... you root for you school (alma mater)
>and to hell with everyone else.
>this "i must root my conference" idealism is bull.

Okay... DUDE!!!  If you think that I root for Michigan, you're obviously not
realizing the whole picture here.  I don't think that you can call me a "young
un illini here either.  I'm positive that I've done more to back the University,in 4 years, then you did for however long that you were here in Illinois. I 
would like to completely back Illinois all of the way, but when someone starts
ripping on the Big-10, I can't bring myself to use Illinois football as a 
counter-example, as much as I would really like to.  So really, I'm not too far
out of "your day".  You make it sound like you graduated several years ago, but
89 isn't really that far away.  BTW:  This Saturdays game was awesome!!!!  DOWN
WITH MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!!


  			   	   --------------------------------------------
								  Jeff Beckham
						      beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
 					 	  Computer Science/Mathematics
                                    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Iowa/Minnesota updates?
Originator: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 01:48:53 GMT

If anyone happens to be listening to the Iowa/Minnesota game,
would you mind posting some updates?  Thanks.

Jim
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From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: NCSU: COUNTDOWN TO ORANGE BOWL, THRASHES WAKE 42-24!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:07:14 GMT
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)

--
>> Texas A&M vs. Alabama, Cotton Bowl
>> Washington vs. Michigan, Rose Bowl
>> Nebraska vs. N.C. State, Orange Bowl

>Though it is very possible that Nebraska goes to OB, it is not yet
>guarenteed.. They have to win the last two games and one of them is
>against Oklahoma!

>Njan

Really, really, REALLY, reallllllyyyyyyyyyy, uhmmmmmmmmm, REALLY hoping
arent you Njan.   ;^)

It's kind of like seeing a beautifull girl and you think she wants you, then
NU beats OU and CU kisses it's sister. I say if you are a CU fan - don't get
your hopes up.

I don't think you should watch the NU/OU game dude. For your own emotional
well-being.   ;^)

Husker Henderson

P.S. - Please take note of the smiley things.

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From: pluto@stein.u.washington.edu (The Lonely Planet)
Subject: Re: WOOF GODS STRIKES AGAIN! (was Re: WSU 42 UW 23)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:35:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.052907.1365@u.washington.edu> baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
>In article <26937@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
>
>Huskies.  The weather was not a factor.  All the excuses made by the fans
>are absurd...
>
>
>-Behzad
>Go Huskies
>Go Cougars
>Go Gators...


   Behzad, were you one of the Husky football player at Pullman
   last Saturday?



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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: The Big Game (Stanford axes Cal bigtime)
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: 22 Nov 92 07:34:32 GMT

Wow -- this one was amazing for it's _predictability_.  After all --
in how many Big Games in the last few years has the better team not
only won, but kicked some serious butt?  

About the game:
Cal scored a quick field goal at the beginning, and Stanford's offense
was looking _really_ cold in the early going.  But then came a break
and the first touchdown, and from then on it was almost easy. :-)
Milburn's _beautiful_ touchdown on a punt return -- right around the
end past a big wall of blue defenders.  And of course, the fumbled
punt that ended up gaining us ~30 yards.

Of course, the last three minutes were a little scary -- after all,
it's Big Game in Berkeley.  But the two touchdowns in as many minutes
just weren't enough to win it.

About the other stuff: I have to say that that game was _scary_.  The
guys who came and tackled the Tree (why does that ALWAYS happen???) at
halftime were summarily hurt by the Band members whose jobs it was to
stop that sort of thing.  The thrown fruit was placed in a large
catapult aimed at the Cal student section (but you didn't really think
we were going to fire it, did you? :-)

And then the end of the game -- Cal idiots try to steal the flag in a
large group of red and are stopped.

And of course the Cal fans who rushed the field at postgame and were
shouting "Stanford sucks" after we'd just kicked their butts.  I don't
get it...

Why exactly do people act so stupidly at these games?  In fact, other
than the fruit-throwing, Cal fans seem to be a lot worse about it --
maybe because they were losing so badly.  But Stanford people just
seem to be more mellow about it.  In any case -- riots or near-riots
just _don't_ add to my enjoyment of a football game.

In case anyone was still wondering why the Stanford Band didn't take
the field as usual after the game, that's why.  We were scared for our
lives.

If we'd lost, I might even be annoyed about it...:-)

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
From: sstasuke@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Steve Stasukewicz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Small college in Penn
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:31:56 GMT
Reply-To: sstasuke@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Steve Stasukewicz)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR European Development Center


A while back somebody posted an artcile about a college named Slippery
Rock.  Does anyone know if there is a team in the same conference that
starts with the letters "Shippen...." Can't remember the exact name. 
It's a small college in Pennsylvania.  Also, does anyone have the 
standings for that conference that they could post or email to me?

Thnks a bunch.

Steve

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From: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com (John Phillips)
Subject: Re: A&M beats TCU...
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:43:14 GMT
Reply-To: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

>Mark Weyland writes

> Just to shut them up.  (they, 
>r.s.f.c fsu, sure do talk a lot of shit)

As you found out last year in Cotton-A&M bowl, we also come to play.
Oh yeah, if you show up this year, bring an offense. There were an 
awful lot of cold lips at last years game.

J.P.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: The NCAA Applies its Double Standard Again
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:40:36 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.002139.10142@u.washington.edu> tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>Because of violations committed by ONLY its track and field program, all Tulsa
>University team sports have been placed on 3 years probation and banned from 
>post-season play this year.  That's right, ALL Tulsa team sports.  Additionally,
>all Tulsa team sports will be forced to forfeit victories for the past 3? years,
>costing the women's golf team a national title.
>
>This is not a joke, at least by me.  It's just another example of the double 
>standard with which the NCAA enforces its penalties.  If you are SMU or Tulsa, 
>or some other small school, expect to be hit hard.  But, if you're Texas A&M, 
>Texas, or any other big-money state university with a powerful athletic program,
>you'll get treated with kid gloves.  Even though they fit the qualifications for
>the NCAA Death Penalty, if I were Auburn, I wouldn't be too worried.
>
>
>GT

it depends on the infractions themselves...  Look at A&M's ~15 infractions
that we were nailed for.  The worst one involved a $30 dinner.  SMU on the
otherhand was nailed for paying sorority girls to "escort" (on their knees)
current/future players.  BIG DIFFERENCE.  That is not to say that this kind
of stuff doesn't happen elsewhere, it is just that SMU had it proven against
them.

cmuck
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From: doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel)
Subject: OSU-Michigan (was Big Ten Review (11-14-92))
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:38:50


Randy writes:

> Illinois (5-4-1) 22, MICHIGAN (8-0-2) 22:
>       ...
> 	"good" team in this otherwise dismal conference is overblown.  I'm
> 	sure the Rose Bowl folks are real "happy" these days.  They may even
> 	be "happier" after this Saturday when Michigan loses at Ohio State.

All right, take it back.  We're going to have a tough enough time this
weekend without the net.big10.authority woofing us into a sure loss.  Really
Randy, I thought you'd know better (unless you secretly pulling for
Michigan).

Any former TBDBITL members wish to post the alternate lyrics to Hail to the
Victors or LeRegiment(sp)?

Go Bucks!


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:43:06 EST
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Fight songs
 <1992Nov18.155245.1083@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>

Well, here are the lyrics to The chorus of the Alabama
version of "Rocky Top":


Rocky Top, you'll always be
a pile if shit to me;
F*** you, Rocky Top,
Go to hell, Tennessee,
Go to hell, Tennessee.


Jim
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: TEXAS aTm - got screwed
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:33:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

wingfiel@lonestar.utsa.edu (Kevin J. Wingfield) wrote:
}
}                                                With two games left
}        of the regular season and to go undeafeated that would
}        be 12-0, can anybody say the same, I think not. 

Alabama is 10-0 with 2 games remaining, so they can certainly enter
the bowls at 12-0 as well.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

       "Death wears a big hat, 'cause he's a big bloke."    
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