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From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: (Longmont, CO) Trojan News, vol. 1
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:20:12 GMT
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Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Sep4.174450.24002@den.mmc.com>, kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!caen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!ames!purdue!yuma!csn!news.den.mmc.com!traffic!kevin
|> From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
|> Subject: (Longmont, CO) Trojan News, vol. 1
|> Message-ID: <1992Sep4.174450.24002@den.mmc.com>
|> Date: 4 Sep 92 17:44:50 GMT
|> Sender: news@den.mmc.com (News)
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|> Organization: Longmont High School, Longmont CO
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|> 
|> 
|> The real Trojans open their season this Saturday at home, hosting the
|> Overland Trailblazers at Montgomery Field.  Longmont is the 3-time
|> defending 5A state champ and will try to extend its 41-game winning
|> streak, 1 shy of Limon's state record.  Last year, they were widely
|> considered the equal of all but the top 1 or 2 6A teams in Colorado.
|> The Trojans, however, are currently ranked just #4 in the state's 5A
|> class by the Denver Post/KCNC poll.  Overland is currently ranked #7
|> among the state's 6A teams.
|> 
|> The University of Colorado has two players from Longmont on its team,
|> Sr. LB Greg Biekert and So. OG Clint Moore, and one player from
|> Overland, Fr. FL T.J. Cunningham.
|> 
|> Fight On!
|> -- 
|> Valdis Rodgers				valdis@longmont.edu
|> GO TROJANS!  BEAT THE TRAILBLAZERS!
|> 
You sir, are hard to reach (why would anyone want to get a Trojan anyway?)

So I'll post it for all to see -

COUGARS BURST TROJANS - always have, always will - no matter the score.

John Murphy - NHS '86
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal 14 v. Purdue 41
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:50:41 GMT
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Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep15.014353.282@leland.Stanford.EDU> brian@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brian McDonald) writes:

>In article <44737@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> s243ap@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Dean Roberts) writes:

>>You're right about that.  Stanfurd has tough road games at Washington
>>and at UCLA, not to mention the Big Game, which is always unpredictable.
>							   -------------

>Really?  It's had the same outcome every time I've seen it...

You're a young-un, ain't ya, boy?

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From: sujan@milton.u.washington.edu (Sujan Punyamurthula)
Subject: SOme scores
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:30:05 GMT

Scores of some games on 9-12

Washington 27 Wisconsin  10 (HF 20-7)
Michigan   17 Notre Dame 17 (HF 7-7)
Nebraska   31 Middle ??? 7
Tennesse   34 Georgia 31
Texas A&M  19 Tulsa      9
Virginia   53 Navy       0
Stanford   21 Oregon st. 7
California 14 Purdue    41 !!!
Washington State 23 Arizona 20


Games still on
FSU 17  Clemson 13  (4th qtr)
LSU 17  Missisipi state 3 (4th qtr)

Go Huskies
sujan
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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: USC Band (was: Russell White/Prop 48)
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:59:25 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs) writes:

>Now with the recent posts concerning "Tribute To Troy" and "Fight On", these
>songs have been part of the Trojan tradition for years and WILL remain so.
>As matter of fact these songs are played by request of the Athletic Dept and
>by a large majority of fans. As far as the performamce of the band goes, just
>ask recording artists such as Fleetwood Mac,Neil Diamond, Diana Ross,Chuck
>Mangione (who have performed with the SC Band) on who is the #1 marching band!
>And when ND fans claim their band is better, why do they have a High School
>band in the stands when they come to the Coliseum? :(

... because they can't afford to make the trip.  I guess SC has more
wealthy alumni.

So the SC band recorded with Fleetwood Mac on the "Tusk" album ... big
deal.   They're in Southern California where the recording studios are.

SC isn't even the best band in the Pac 10.  Cal, Washington, Arizona,
and maybe even UCLA are better.   They were good in the 70's, but
lately they've gotten sloppy.   And oh yes, arrogant.  Their director,
Dr. Barter, is known around the country to be a first-class arrogant
crybaby.  (I'll never forget him yelling, "OK everybody!  Let's
all cheer: F**K CAL!   F**K CAL!)  There have also been various postings on 
the net about how obnoxious the SC band acts, both on and off the field.


-- 

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From: taube@isa.de (Christian Taube)
Subject: Re: Quacking (Oregon Corollary of Woofing Theorem)
Organization: ISA GmbH, W-7000 Stuttgart 1, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:00:51 GMT
X-Copyright: Nachdruck, auch auszugsweise, ohne schriftliche Einwilligung des Autors verboten.

conery@kiwanda.cs.uoregon.edu (John Conery) writes:
>Sept 5, vs. Hawaii --
>  The Ducks, anxious to avenge last year's 3-8 season, run all over
>  the Rainbows to open the season.

The ONWMB (see below) prevents me from knowing the result of this game
-- what is it?

>Sept 12, at Stanford --
>  Bill Walsh and Stanford get a dose of reality (in no short supply
						  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  here in Oregon) as the Ducks ruin the Cardinal's home opener.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Way cool . . .

>Oct 17, Washington --
>  The Huskies haven't won in Eugene in 7 years (true!) and will come
>  up empty again this year, stunning everybody in the country except
>  this bold prognosticator.

Riiiight

>Rose Bowl, Jan 1 --
>  In a rematch of the two teams in the 1920 Rose Bowl, it's Oregon 
>  over Harvard in a thriller.  Huh?  Well if Penn State can come to 
>  the Rose Bowl, why can't Harvard?

It's like Deja Vu all over again . . . way cool . . .

>     __      __
>     | |     | |
>     | |   __| |_
>     | |  / _| | \	
>     | | / / | |\ \
>     | | | | | || |
>     \ \_| |/ / | |
>      \__| |_/  | |
>         \ \____/ /
>	  \______/

Go Ducks!

Against all hope,

Christian

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Christian Taube (taube@isa.de), ISA GmbH, 7000 Stuttgart 1, Germany
Any opinions expressed are mine, and mine only! Thought for today:
A deboned picnic mutates consciously.
From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Subject: Re: Shameless OU woof
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:47:18 GMT

mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:

>Hmph!  You seem to be forgetting:

>    U      U
>    U    A U     The University of Alabama              |   Home of the 
>    U   A AU        NATIONAL CHAMPIONS                  |   winningest coach
>    U  A   A    '25,'26,'30,'34,'61,'64,'65,'73,'78,'79 |   in major college
>    U A    UA                                           |   football history
>    U AAAAAAA    All-time leader in bowl wins: 24       ----------------------
>    U A    UA
>     UA   U A  Wins in the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Cotton Bowl, and Orange Bowl
>      AUUU  A
>      A     A  Highest winning percentage in modern football era: 1922-present

>etc.

>(Next we'll be hearing from the damned Trojans.)

Well, Mark, you asked for it :-)

 
  SSSSSS 
 S      S     The University of Southern California  |  
 S    CCCCCC         NATIONAL CHAMPIONS              | Home of the
  S  C      C   '28,'31,'32,'62,'67,'72,'74,'78      | I-formation
   SSCSS          America's Premier Bowl Team        ----------------- 
     C  S
     C   S      Too many Rose Bowl championships to list here 
 S   C   S 
  SSSSSSS   C 	
      CCCCCC 

>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

Serdar

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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:18:32 GMT
Organization: American Math. Society

In article <1992Sep14.164904.21654@cs.ucf.edu> tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:

   >a loss for notre dame rather than a tie.  never mind that notre dame
   >probably should have won the game going away if it weren't for their
   >turnovers.

Likewise, Michigan "probably should have won the game going away if it
weren't for their turnovers."  They both screwed up.
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Big East Preview, Sept. 12
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:42:43 GMT

In article <BuF3pG.JKu@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts) writes:
|> Big East Preview, Sept. 12, 1992
|> 
|> VIRGINIA TECH (1-0) at East Carolina (0-1):  This one is usually tight.  Last
|> week the Pirates were clobbered by a very good Syracuse team and the Hokies
|> rolled over I-AA James Madison.  As yet we know nothing about either except
|> that East Carolina isn't as good as it was last year (but we already knew
|> that before the game was played).  This one's a tossup.

One thing we do know about the history of this matchup is that for the
past 4 meetings, the home team has lost the game.  Still, nothing concrete
to go on other than a probably meaningless statistic.  Tech's secondary
is very suspect to the pass (as witnessed in the JMU game), and that has
me worried.  Still, the VT's QB DeShazo looked good last week, and if he 
can keep it up this week, the Hokies have a chance to win.

|> Prediction:  VaTech 21, East Carolina 20.

In Bob's BE Pick 'em contest, I picked the Hokies to lose, but now I'm not 
quite so sure (given I wasn't sure how bad ECU had dropped off in talent 
from last year).  This will be VT's first real test of the season.

|> Timothy C. Pitts             

-- 

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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: OSU: bad news and worse.  But still,they won....
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:24:15 GMT

Stupendous Man writes:

>    And that mystery penalty!  No flag.  No warning.  Just all of a sudden
>OSU's offense is banished from the field after OSU does a great runback of a
>BGSU punt.  BGSU is given the ball back after a 15 yard "unsportsmanlike
>conduct" penalty.
>    Huh?  No flags, no whistles.  Yet, supposedly, this infraction occurred
>*before* the punt.

The story behind this call was that the Buckeye on the punt receiving team 
knocked the Falcon wide out out of bounds and *then* threw him to the ground.  
It is not inconceivable that this could happen before the punt, but it is 
unlikely that more than 1% of the fans in attendance would have seen it happen.

     - Pat
.
-- 
- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------
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From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: Re: Collingsworth
Originator: currin@poult1.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:51:16 GMT


In article <1992Sep14.192635.27143@wl.com>, wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:
|>Path: taco!gatech!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!m.cs.uiuc.edu!vela!pd-dom!wyborsr
|>From: wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski)
|>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
|>Subject: Re: Collingsworth
|>Message-ID: <1992Sep14.192635.27143@wl.com>
|>Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 15:26:35 GMT+5:00
|>References: <16862BD09.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com>
|>Sender: wyborsr@wl.com
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|>In article <16862BD09.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com> JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
|>>Where did Chris Collingsworth go to college?  Or did he?
|>
|>	Could it have been Florida State?
|>

       You're thinking of Burt Reynolds who incidentally adds a little color
     to the FSU-NCSU game this weekend. More to come.

RC
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Russell White/Prop48
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:05:12 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <lapn83INN6aa@spica.usc.edu> valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs) writes:
>ask recording artists such as Fleetwood Mac,Neil Diamond, Diana Ross,Chuck
>Mangione (who have performed with the SC Band) on who is the #1 marching band!

Well, you are assuming they will answer U$C, but if they know anything
about it, their answer will be the Marching 100 from Florida A&M
University. Best, bar none. I doubt your little marching condoms are
even close.

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
From: scott@graft.berkeley.edu (Scott Silvey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAL??!!
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:54:49
Organization: UC Berkeley Experimental Computing Facility (XCF)
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In-reply-to: greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu's message of 12 Sep 92 23:05:21 GMT



The Bear will not quit, the Bear will not die...

woof woof
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From: lyons@hubcap.clemson.edu (Eric Lyons)
Subject: Re: FSU Clemson
Organization: Clemson University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:28:36 GMT

rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:


>Well, FSU wins this one, and barring earth-shattering upset, the ACC title.
>I remember this summer all these peopl who were so positive that Clemson,
>and maybe one other ACC team, would beat FSU. "FSU is not used to the
>rigors of conference play", they said.

>WRONG. Rigors of conference play? An independent schedule is much more
>difficult than an ACC schedule, which includes patsys like Duke, Wake, UMD,
>etc.

Well said.  An independent schedule is always tougher than a conference
schedule.  For example, look at Florida State's 1990 schedule and see
tough opponents such as Tulane, Western Michigan, and Middle Tennessee State.
Duke, Wake Forest, and Maryland definitely downgrades the schedule.

Clemson has *probably* been eliminated from the ACC race this weekend,
because even though Florida State can be beaten at N. C. State
or Georgia Tech, I don't see Clemson going 3-0 at Georgia Tech, at N. C.
State, and at Virginia to keep up.

Eric Lyons
lyons@hubcap.clemson.edu
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Big 10 and the Rose Bowl
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:31:12 GMT

johndoe writes:

>21 victories
>   by
> 7 different big 10 teams

did you include Chicago in that tally?  Chicago was a member of the Great 
Western Conference (later to be named the Big Ten ) before Michigan State 
joined.

     - Pat
.
-- 
- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------
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From: efpark@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (efton park)
Subject: Method for computing Sagarin rankings?
Followup-To:  epark@gamma.is.tcu.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:03:20 GMT


I would like to give a talk about the Sagarin football rankings to under-
graduate math students.  Is there somewhere that I can find the algorithm that
Sagarin uses, or is it proprietary?

Thanks in advance.

Efton Park
epark@gamma.is.tcu.edu
efpark@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: case@ucs.sdsu.edu (Steve Case)
Subject: Re: BYU-SDSU
Organization: San Diego State University, Data Communications Group
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:20:51 GMT

In article <50cC03iy80Ib00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:
>
>  Yeah, pretty embarrassing defense for both teams- looked like a Jets-
>Dolphins game :-)
>
>  Too bad that BYU punt returner muffed the last kick- would have been
>interesting to see if the Aztecs could hold BYU for one final drive.

At this point, I'm sure most of us at SDSU had horrible flashbacks to last 
year's BYU game (52-52 tie). I was at THAT game and came home exhausted. 
And the only exercise I got that night was hoisting beers and cracking 
peanuts.

>
>  So why don't the Aztecs have their names on the back of their jerseys?
>Are the school budgets for the State schools so bad that they can't 
>afford personalized jerseys? :-)

I've always wondered about this, too. However, I would think the defense 
would WANT to remain anonymous.

>
>  That Marshall Faulk guy sure looked awesome running at will against BYU.
>Is he that good or is the BYU defense that bad?   They play UCLA on the 
>26th, so that should be a good test for Faulk against a decent Pac-10 defense.
>
>  Doug
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He's that good, but I don't think he will get close to 300 yards against 
UCLA. In fact, if he breaks 200 it would be quite an achievement.
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From: greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Shawn Green)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAL??!!
Keywords: Rose Bowl, just kidding
Date: 12 Sep 92 23:05:21 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Here's my official early prediction for the Toledo game next week:

   Purdue 653
   Toledo -13

Bring on Notre Dame...  <SLAP>  Ouch!  Now I'm better.  It's just that my
expectations for Purdue football are so lowered that when we pull a big
upset it's like information overload.  When was the last time we were 2-1
going into Big 10 play?  (Assuming we stomp Toledo and ND stomps us.)


Shawn Green
greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Purdue fans...
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:04:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

Hey guys, I was dancing as much as any of you when I saw that score, but
don't sit around and woof Purdue into oblivion.  You know just as well as I
do that Purdue will let down next week and get upset by Toledo.  The score:

Purdue  17
Toledo  35
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Rutgers hosts Pitt:  ESPN
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:54:29 GMT


Thursday night (8:00 ESPN) Rutgers hosts Pittsburgh at Rutgers Stadium.

QUESTIONS:

WHO WILL BE RUTGERS' STARTING QUARTERBACK?
In case you hadn't heard, Bryan Fortay led RU out on the
field against Div1-AA Colgate, and after 6 possessions
RU and Colgate were tied 0-0.  Coach Graber pulled Fortay
in favor of Redshirt Freshman Ray Lucas.  Lucas also had
6 possessions to work with; when he was done RU was leading
34-0.  Fortay returned and directed RU for their last score.
Final: RU 41  Colgate 0.

WHO WILL BE PITT'S STARTING COACH?
Each year Hackett is billed as the coach who better win
in a hurry.  After getting pummelled by a West Virginia team
that was tied by Miami of Ohio, you have to wonder about 
Hackett's position.  What if RU dumps Pitt?  What if the 
Golden Gophers follow it up by beating Pitt?  Then they face
Notre Dame, followed (eventually) by ECU, Syracuse, and 
Penn State.  Will Hackett be around for the trip to Hawaii?
Pitt better start winning if Hackett is to last the season.


STREAKS:

Pitt has never lost to Rutgers.  Streak is 9-0.

Rutgers has never lost in Rutgers Stadium, during Graber's regime.
Streak is 7-0.


BIG EAST PICK'EM CONTEST ENTRIES:

18 entries for Pitt
15 entries for Rutgers.     
This is a 3 point 'key' game in the contest.


DRY T-SHIRT CONTEST:

Current standings of the HB vs. BD Dry T-shirt Contest:

Harry Bloomberg (and Pitt):   1-1-0
Bob Dieckmann (and Rutgers):  1-1-0


POETRY CORNER:

   Mary had a little lamb
        its fleece was white as snow
   She took the lamb to Pittsburgh
        and now look at the damn thing

(Folk ballad sung by the poor unfortunates who live
near the confluence of the Monagahela, Alegheny,
and Ohio Rivers.)


-- 
"Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@mtfme.att.com)
How ya' gonna learn anything if you  |  GO: Mets (& dear old Rutgers)
always got your head in a book?"     |  I probably should've included smileys.
                -- Foghorn Leghorn   |  **usual disclaimer**
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