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From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.marketplace
Subject: Re: 1976 Star Trek (NCC-1701) TOS blueprints, $100
Keywords: USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) blueprints, 1976
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:33:35 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec20.013310.9575@news.duc.auburn.edu> gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu writes:
>STAR TREK (TOS) USS ENTERPRISE/USS CONSTITUTION CLASS BLUEPRINTS FOR SALE
>
>In 1991, I saw this set of blueprints for sale at Starland in Denver for
>$100.00. I'll respond to the person with the best offer, plus C.O.D.
>shipping, by Tuesday (12/22/92). If you prefer not to deal with the hassle
>of C.O.D. shipping, send payment first, plus $2.90 for Priority Mail cost.
>
My local store gets them in all the time and sells them for $25 in
near-mint condition. The days of the $100 blueprints are over. Even the
Tech Manual and Concordance are under $50 now.

=============================== Mike Gaines ============================
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From: manga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Peter Michael Betz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.marketplace,rec.collecting,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Wanted: "Roadblasters" and "CyberFormula" cars
Date: 24 Dec 1992 06:52:42 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Distribution:world

Organization: Wisconsin vehicular destruction society

Keywords: Matchbox


  I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but...

I am looking for a series of toy cars in the "RoadBlasters" series, as 
put out by matchbox a handful of years ago. I didn't have the opportunity to
get them when they were new, and have been kicking myself ever since.

For the readers in Japan (and the west coast) I'm also looking for miniature
versions of the "Future Grand Prix: CyberFormula" cars (if they exist) in
the same scale. any help here would be appreciated.....

Organization: Computer Repair, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.marketplace
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 12:32:37 -0500 
From: "David M. Bartlett" <db0s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: For Sale:  Dr. Who Paperbacks


Recently,  somebody posted saying they were looking for Dr. Who
paperback books.  I have about 30 of them for sale, for $2.00 each; send
email if you want a list of titles.

Dave B.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.marketplace
From: Caughill <Caughill@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Robot from Lost In Space
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:15:12 GMT

Hi. I'm looking for a model/toy/replica of the robot from Lost in Space. Any
suggestions? Please write me at Caughill@mixcom.com.  Thanks a lot. :-) 

Mike Caughill

-- 
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From: clayson@xenomorph.Eng.Sun.COM (Mathew Clayson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.marketplace
Subject: LEGOs
Date: 23 Dec 1992 21:45:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: clayson@xenomorph.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: xenomorph
Keywords: toy

I realise this is a little off the course here, but:


I'm looking for old LEGO collections, I'm more intrested in ones with boxes and/or
instructions even if some pieces are missing.

I'm also looking for someone who can buy LEGOs in Europe and send them to California,
I'll be happy to pay or trade for this.

Mat Clayson
Day (415)336-2014 after Jan. 4
Eve (510)226-1937


Organization: Philosophy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.marketplace
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:57:37 -0500 
From: Martin Thurn <mt2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: STAR WARS: new collectors' newsletter

Announcing!  A new Star Wars collectors' newsletter.

Issue #1 is ready to ship.  For more information, send email to:

mt2f+request@andrew.cmu.edu

(I hope this post doesn't violate anyone's anti-advertising rules)



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From: ai072@yfn.ysu.edu (Gavin S. Patton)
Subject: Drawing of the Dark
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:03:52 GMT


1
About a month or so ago, a very kind person out there sent me a
copy of Tim Powers' "Drawing of the Dark" that he got at a used
bookstore.  I lost your address!  My Usenet board went private
access!  Send me your address again to the same PO box, and I'll
send you the money!
 
------------------------------- Gavin
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   |/    \  The Galactic League       | Gavin S. Patton            
 --*--    | P.O. Box 4951             | ai072@yfn.ysu.edu
   |\____/  Naperville, IL 60567-4951 | Editor, AlterNations
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.marketplace
From: brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton)
Subject: Re: Troi Action Figure
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:01:07 GMT

Isn't that sort of a contradiction in terms?
-- 
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.marketplace,rec.collecting,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: stailey@bugs.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: Wanted: Star Trek Enterprise Ornament ('91)
Reply-To: stailey@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Distribution: nation
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:17:18 GMT


I'm looking for the 1991 Hallmark Enterprise Ornament.
Any help would be appreciated.

--
Michael                      
stailey@comm.mot.com     


Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.reviews,rec.arts.books
From: wex@media.mit.edu (Alan Wexelblat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.reviews
Subject: NECROM by Mick Farren
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:22:31 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.written
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			NECROM
			by Mick Farren
			Review Copyright (c) 1992 Alan Wexelblat

I'm still trying to decide how I feel about this book.  As I was reading it,
I bounced between being amused, being bored, and being enchanted by the
sheer lunacy of it.  Farren manages to pull it out in the end, though, which
makes the book almost worth the cover price (mutter, grumble).

Necrom is the story of Joe Gibson who is either a loony with an invented
past and weird hallucinations he won't stop believing, or a down-on-his-luck
rock&roll star with some *very* strange friends.  The story is told by
Gibson in a series of interviews with his psychiatrist.  He tells her how he
came to meet an assortment of truly weird demons, magicians, and associated
maniacs, be kidnapped by them, and be taken to a series of other dimensions
to participate in ever-more bizarre activities surrounding the possible
awakening of an elder god.

As the story is being told, the narrator Joe Gibson must deal with the
apparent fact that in the reality where he finds himself, the rock-star Joe
Gibson never existed.  There are no records, no videos, nothing to document
even the most mundane portions of his story.  He fights against this as he
fights against the drugs and restraints in an attempt to escape the mental
hospital.  At the same time, he is telling a story that would be thought
insane even if the mundane parts could be documented.  Real demons, UFOs,
multiple dimensions, magic that works... it all sounds crazy.

>From a plot point of view, Farren appears to have bit off more than he can
chew.  There are loose ends that don't make sense anywhere (like the UFOs --
anyone want to tell me what they're doing in this book?).  But the main line
hangs together and has a satisfying ending.

Character-wise, I think the book fails.  The reader realizes early on that
Joe Gibson believes the story he is telling.  We only have the word of minor
characters that Gibson is not being truthful and we don't have any reason to
trust them.  This kills a major element of the suspense and forces us to
deal with Gibson more straightforwardly than we might otherwise.  He's not
all that likable, except in comparison to the company he is forced to keep.

And yet, Farren kept me from being disappointed.  The book is funny enough
in places, weird enough in places, and well enough written to keep me going.
If you like strange stories and don't mind a few loose ends, this is one you
should get.

%T Necrom
%A Mick Farren
%I Del Rey SF Paperback
%G ISBN 0-345-36185-7
%D 1991
%O $4.95
%P 371 pp
From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Oathblinded by Mercedes Lackey?
Date: 3 Jan 93 20:25:00 GMT
Organization: Keristor Systems
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)

In article <BECK.92Dec31155206@orange.qtp.ufl.edu> beck@qtp.ufl.edu writes:

>I got a list of all the things Mercedes Lackey has written, and it
>says that she was going to release a third book in the Vows and Honor
>set called Oathblinded.  Does anyone know when this book is going to
>be released?

The latest newsletter from Queen's Own, the Misty Lackey fan club,
doesn't mention it in 'forthcoming books'.  What is this list and where
did you get it?  AFAIK the third book is 'By the Sword' (Kerowyn's Ride)
- I haven't heard of any others in the Valdemar universe (apart from the
continuing 'Mage Winds' set, and sometime 'The Black Gryphon', about the
ancient Mage Wars).

I'll check with Misty, though, and if I find anything I'll post it...

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From: phydeaux@guru.med.cornell.edu (Dave Weingart)
Subject: Re: SF fans show libertarian inclination
Keywords: Libertarian,science-fiction
Nntp-Posting-User: @cornell.edu
Organization: CUMC
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:29:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.022207.12442@genie.slhs.udel.edu>, nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz) writes:
|> My impression is that the majority of fen are liberals. This could be
|> worse--I don't agree with their politics, but at least they don't get
|> into obsessive revenge fantasies as much as conservatives, and thus
|> are apt to be better company, imho. 

Interesting...I've found it to be the other way around, spotting most fen as
fairly conservative in their politics.  (Although there was an almost universal
revulsion at having Bush re-elected among fen I spoke to.)

On the whole, I bet you'll find fen across the spectrum, with a fair number
popping around the middle (such as Yours Truly), with some "conservative" and some
"liberal" views.


-- 
73 de David Weingart  KB2CWF    In the event I am captured or killed, the
phydeaux@cumc.cornell.edu       Cornell University Medical College and the
phydeaux@guru.med.cornell.edu   Department of Academic Computing will disavow
phydeaux@src4src.linet.org      any knowledge of my opinions.
From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: SF fans show libertarian inclination
Date: 30 Dec 1992 15:53:57 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: ansible.pubs.stratus.com

robert j kolker writes
>Is it my imagination or is it true?  Going through the postings in the
>rec.arts.sf.*, rec.arts.startrek groups I havew discerned a Libertarian
>bias or inclination in the posting where some kind of political/social
>opinion is expressed.
>
>Also among persons of my acquaintance in science fiction interest groups I
>have seen the same thing.
>
>I am imposing my own admittedly libertarian bias to my observation, or
>could it be true.
>
>I would like your opinions for a sanity check.

I think that depends on the fen.  I can't tell you the number of fen who
voted in favor of Bill Clinton, a man who could not be considered a 
libertarian by any stretch of the imagination.

Many fen don't like guns particularly.  While most support the right to
own guns, I don't think guns are a religious element among many fen
EXCEPT those who already have a strongly libertarian bent.

To the amazement of many fen, there are anti-abortion libertarians.  While
there are certainly anti-abortion fen, most prefer to keep the government's
laws out of the bedroom and hospital.  So, if that makes us libertarians, I
think it's a pretty narrow view.

In short, there are many vocal minorities in fandom.  One of the most vocal
minorities are the libertarians.  But, to many of us, libertarians seem
to be represented by gun zealots, and we'd just as soon avoid them, thanks
very much.

*  In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak *
*  because I wasn't a Communist.  Then they came for the Jews, and I *
*  didn't speak because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade *
* unionists, and I didn't speak because I wasn't a trade unionist... *
*Then they came for me--and by that time no one was left to speak up.*
*  Rev. Martin Niemoeller     [Why to March on Washington in April]  *
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: VILLAGE OF THE DAMMNED 
Distribution: world
Organization: None round here!
Reply-To: tim@smof.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:37:35 +0000

In article <1992Dec28.181956.6584@scorch.apana.org.au> jimgar@scorch.apana.org.au writes:
>jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling)  writes:
>
>|Just saw this movie the other night.  Cool flick.  I heard they made a
>|sequal, Children of the Damned, but not confirmed.  Has anyone else seen
>|this neat B&W B-movie?
>
>Yes, it's based on John Wyndham's "The Midwich Cuckoos"

Both films (VotD 1960, CotD 1963) are based on "The Midwich Cockoos", the first
in a rural setting, the second in a city.  Both are MGM - it looks as if VotD
was a success, so they remade it in a more 'commercially attractive' setting
and, by all accounts, made a _much_ better film the second time around.

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From: ssammy@cs.strath.ac.uk (Paul Sammy 4th Year iE/CES)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Looking for Daniken sceptic
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:38:05 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Information Engineering


Hello there.

I'm looking for a book that purports to reveal the
inconsistencies and downright lies that Eric Von Daniken
(allegedly) wrote in his "Gold of the Gods" series.

I know it exists (I've read it somewhere), but I'm not sure
of the title or the author.
I think its called "Gold of the Gods Revealed" or something
similar.

If possible I'd like a ISBN and a publisher, so I can order it.

Thanks in advance, Paul




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From: stuartf@sequent.com (Stuart Friedberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Articles About Internet in Mass Media
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:27:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Dec29.182709.17624
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

>mildram@xylogics.com (Doug Mildram ) writes:
>Internet lovers: There was an informative article in Boston Globe (dec26'92) 

>lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann) writes:
>There's a rather serious article about the Internet in January's
>Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, written by Bruce Sterling.
>It was pretty factual but it was a little ponderous.

The most recent issue of The Economist has a short bit on USENET and
the Internet.  It's part of a semi-serious list of "people networks"
including things like the Freemasons, the Rhodes Scholars, the Yale
Skull and Bones clique, etc.  However, the article gets rather silly
toward the end.  The last three "networks" discussed are the
Trilateral Commission, the Internet, and the Illuminati.

(Reading The Economist is good training for reading netnews.  The
writers are frequently witty and occasionally frivolous, and they
don't put any smiley faces in the magazine to help out.)

Stu Friedberg stuartf@sequent.com
From: dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk (David Owen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Childhood's End=Watcher of the Skies
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:19:31 GMT
Organization: International Computers Limited

Yes - Clarke's "Childhood's End" was indeed the partial inspiration for
"Watcher of the Skies" by Genesis. In 1971/72 whilst in Italy promoting
the "Nursery Cryme" album, Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were on the
roof of a tall building and looking around them could see no signs
of human life whatsoever. Both, Rutherford in particular were at the time
keen SF readers, and their experience, together with the book were the
inspiration for the song on the next LP, "Foxtrot".

Sources: Genesis: I Know What I Like by Armando Gallo (Sidgewick & Jackson)
	 The Book of Genesis by Hugh Fielder

N.B. I'm at work and the books are at home, so take the attributions with
a pinch of salt.

Dave.


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From: jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: RE: HARD AND SOFT SF
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:48:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Brentwood BBS Harrison, NY  914-835-7898
Reply-To: jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling) 

-> They decide it's a virus, format your hard disk, sell you a virus
-> killer utility, and your computer works for several hours before the
-> problem recurs.

Hmmm.  That's an interesting one.  A virus that survives a formatting.
In real life terms that sounds like the cockroaches vs. the A-bomb :-)

J
                                                                              
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: smay@boi.hp.com (Scott Smay)
Subject: Re: SF fans show libertarian inclination
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:52:45 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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robert j kolker (rjk@world.std.com) wrote:
: Is it my imagination or is it true?  Going through the postings in the
: rec.arts.sf.*, rec.arts.startrek groups I havew discerned a Libertarian
: bias or inclination in the posting where some kind of political/social
: opinion is expressed.
:
It's your imagination, I imagine. 
: 
: I would like your opinions for a sanity check.
:
You got it. Enjoy your therapy. 
: 
: -- 
: "If you can't love the Constitution, then at least hate the Government"
: 
Done.

cheers,
scott "thought I was a libertarian until I found out what it meant" smay
From: andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Ender: The Movie
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:51:43 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

dagolden@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Alexandre Golden) writes:

>He's fairly high in the age range, but I propose the "John Connor" from
>T2.  (Eddie Furlong or some such).  Given the character he played in T2,
>people would be much more able to accept him as a killer rather than your
>average "cute" child actor.

Alas, his voice has changed, so he couldn't pull off being only 8 or 9
throughout most of the movie.  There was a kid in one of the episodes of
TNG last season, however, who would be perfect, I think. (Josh Harris,
from "Hero Worship")

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  andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                        would make even less sense.
From: py1djf@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (D J Ford)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: VILLAGE OF THE DAMMNED
Date: 29 Dec 92 14:54:23 GMT
Organization: School of Physics, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, tim@smof.demon.co.uk writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.181956.6584@scorch.apana.org.au> jimgar@scorch.apana.org.au writes:
>>jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling)  writes:
>>
>>|Just saw this movie the other night.  Cool flick.  I heard they made a
>>|sequal, Children of the Damned, but not confirmed.  Has anyone else seen
>>|this neat B&W B-movie?

	Yeah, Village of the Damned is based on Wyndhams book,
	the Midwich Cuckoos. And by all accounts Wyndham was
	quite pleased by it.
>
>Both films (VotD 1960, CotD 1963) are based on "The Midwich Cockoos", the first
>in a rural setting, the second in a city.  Both are MGM - it looks as if VotD
>was a success, so they remade it in a more 'commercially attractive' setting
>and, by all accounts, made a _much_ better film the second time around.

	NB, I may be wrong, but I think that Children of the Damned
	was in colour. But anyway, IMO, Children on the Damned is a 
	duffer of a film. True, the sets and SFX are much better, 
	but the plot is pretty illogical ( ie. no explanation
	for the existence of the children at all) and a silly ending.

	From what I've read, Wyndham didn't like Children of the damned
	much at all, and distanced himself from it as he did
	with the Hollywood version of Day of the Triffids.

	I imagine that he would of approved of the BBC tv 
	version though.



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From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: Re: Childhood's End=Watcher of the Skies 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:20:34 +0000

In article <cfBQzwq00iV1E16XsC@andrew.cmu.edu> bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:

>I'm wondering if anyone else out there has noticed the extreme
>similarity of the old Genesis song "Watcher of the Skies" and Clarke's
>classic "Childhood's End"? Also, does anyone recall an interview or
>anything in which a Genesis member -- especially Peter Gabriel -- said
>the book was the inspiration for the song?

I didn't know the song, but having seen it it looks probable.

Incidentally, the song will be under copyright, so it's not a good idea
to post such things - unless you either have the authors' and
publishers' permissions (in writing), or you want a law suit!

That's not a flame, just a friendly warning to anyone thinking of posing
lyrics on the net - I don't want to see anyone burnt...

Chris

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