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From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100
Summary: sig line change?
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 21:03:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan06.223154.8479@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>
>Jonathan E. Quist                              Lachman Technology, Incorporated
>jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL

Hey, Jonathan -

When did INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation   change to  Lachman Technology, Inc.
<??>

What are you trying to tell us indirectly?


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
               BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                           Columbus, Ohio



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Senseless, Childish Brazier Auction
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:13:07 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 725752744@frigg, carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>
>HOWEVER: I will match Jonathan Quist's offer to match every dollar of
>the final price over $50, up to $20 total match, as an additional
>contribution not part of any bid.  I urge other DoD members to match
>this and make it a real charity auction, and thank Jonathan for the idea.

Good bloody grief!  This is worse than Jerry and his kids.

Jody, send me a snail address and the name of your charity and I'll
send you $10.  I don't care about your bloomers!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: CGKarras@world.std.com (Christopher G Karras)
Subject: Bell Helmets
Keywords: helmet Bell
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:43:49 GMT

	This morning while looking through a number of prospectuses for
recent securities offerings I picked up one for Bell Sports Corp. for its
issuance of 1,250,000 shares at $24.50 and the sale of an equal number of
shares by selling stockholders.  Expecting to learn about Bell motorcycle
helmets (20 years ago I thought they were the best, based on little
information, but I just bought a Shoei RF-200), I looked it over more
carefully that I otherwise might have done.

	Bell Sports, the public company with a market capitalization of
about $200 million, stopped making motorcycle helmets in June 1991.  The
motorcycle helmet business was transferred to Bell Helmets, Inc. along
with the snowmobile, fire prevention and law enforcement safety helmet
businesses.  Bell Helmets is a private company controlled by Thomas F.
Doran, a former Bell Sports executive officer.

	Bell Helmets manufactures motorcycle helmets sold under the Bell
name under a license with Bell Sports.  The summary terms of the license
contained in the prospectus suggests to me that the purpose of the
deal from the standpoint of Bell Sports was to shed the product liability
exposure of the motorcycle helmet business.  That liability for
pre-November 1991 helmets is with Bell Sports (which has money) and for
post-November 1991 helmets with Bell Helmets (which Bell Sports says it
believes does NOT have money to pay any significant claims).

	In either event, the defense of product liability claims is by the
Corporate Affairs Department of Bell Sports, either directly on behalf of
Bell Sports or under a litigation services agreement on behalf of Bell
Helmets.  At September 26, 1992 Bell Sports had pending 26 motorcycle helmet
lawsuits, 12 bicycle helmet lawsuits and 2 other lawsuits.  (One of the
lawsuits is a claim by a motorcycle distributor for $2.8 million stemming
from a judgment paid by the distributor in a Missouri case where a FAIRING
was found to be defective?!)  Bell Sports has a policy to "vigorously
defend all product  liability claims."

	The number of bicycle helmets sold by Bell Sports has increased
from 500,000 in 1988 to 3.5 million in 1992, a compound annual growth rate
of 63%.  No wonder they are out of the motorcycle helmet business.

	So, if you have read this far, is motorcycling really SO much more
dangerous than bicycling, even mountain biking?

(BTW, I am a corporate and securities lawyer, so that is why I read other
people's prospectuses.)

Chris

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Internet:    CGKarras@world.std.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: CGKarras@world.std.com (Christopher G Karras)
Subject: Re: Engine Theory 101
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:24:09 GMT

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>In article JBH@world.std.com, CGKarras@world.std.com (Christopher G Karras) writes:
>>egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>>>  Once the engine is
>>>driving the wheel (clutch fully disengaged), the clutch is not
>>>necessary for shifting gears, and you only need it again if you want to
>>>stop the wheel and not the engine.
>>
>>OK, I'll bite.  Do you REALLY shift from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 etc. WITHOUT
>>using the clutch?  Is this thought to be good for the transmission and
>>good driving practice?

>I said not *necessary*.  It's there if you want to use it.

>And yes, I REALLY shift up and down WITHOUT using the clutch (mostly
>up, but that's just me).  It's all in the throttle.  Weight the shift
>lever slightly, and blip the throttle (down for up-shifting, up for
>down-shifting) to match engine speed, and she'll snick right into gear,
>slick as snail snot on teflon.  Done properly, it is harmless to the
>transmission.  "Good driving practice" is rather vague (particularly on
>a motorcycle!).  I don't think it has any safety implications...

>You guys never ridden in a semi?

>---
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
>DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
> (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...


It was a real question on my part.  Last weekend I rather missed a shift,
or shifted without the clutch as I tried to, and was very surprised that,
as Ed describes, the shift was smooth.  I generally drive manual
transmission cars, and adjusting engine RPM to gear and speed is pretty
much a reflex for me.  I do not plan now to make that my standard practice.

Chris
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Internet:    CGKarras@world.std.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bethd@netcom.com (Beth Dixon)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:21:49 GMT

In article <23156@venera.isi.edu> jwills@ISI.EDU (Jerry Wills) writes:
>In article <FRAHM.12.0@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU> FRAHM@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU (Joel A. Frahm) writes:
>   >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   >	"The only substitute for cubic inches is more cubic inches"
>   >			Racer Brown  1954
>   >=====================================================================
>
>       Actually, the only substitute for cubic inches is cubic FEET!
>   Joel.
>
>	I always knew it as:
>		The only substitute for cubic inches, is cubic dollars!
>			Jerry Wills 

I remember it as:
   If you want more cubic inches, bring more cubic dollars!

A corollary is:
  The best way to make a small fortune racing is to start with
  a large fortune.

Beth

=================================================================
Beth E. Dixon               DoD #0384            bethd@netcom.com
1981 Yamaha SR250 "Excitable Girl"                    AMA #631903
"I can keep a handle on anything just this side of deranged."
                                                        -- ZZ Top
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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Application for DoD Membership
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:40:22 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 1786@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu, labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
>	To: all the wonderful people who sent me the FAQ "after" i said
>	I had it....
>
>	Wait till I figure out Cron....

The net being what it is, with random propagation delays and all, you
can never really tell if an individual sent you something before or
after they got your article.  For that matter, you never know if they
got your article about their actions after having allegedly gotten your
article, so any response to that article is equally defensable (unless
of course they post a response to the article explaining their defense
of not getting the article, in which case the return propagation of
their own article is the variable).

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Personal strobes
Date: 6 Jan 1993 14:30:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 26135@serval.net.wsu.edu, johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns) writes:
>                                                                                
>Item No. 6825 for $16.95, order toll free from (800) 458-4438.  It is           
>called a "Vistalite See-Me Super Strobe."                                       
>                                                                                
>I was thinking that for traffic situations or night riding in limited           
>visibility situations or rain on a busy road or most any other time when        
>being seen is a Serious Matter (tm) a couple of these things on a bike          
>or even on each arm (they come with a strap for wrapping around things)         
>might make the world of difference. 

Sounds great for alerting traffic to a broken-down vehicle.

With the exception of extremely slow-moving trucks on the freeway,
flashing lights on a vehicle on the road are reserved for emergency
traffic.  A strobbing red light will not increase your visibility over
the same power light at DC.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: To KotL
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 15:01:26 PST
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Monday January 11 1993 14:23, KAY ELLEN GUNN wrote to All:

 KEG> Dear Kotl,
 KEG> Please issue me a DoD number. I have been reading this group for a month
 KEG> now, and I think I am finally ready to be initiated into this estimable
 KEG> group. I can flame with the best of you.

BwaHaHAHAHAHAHHA. Prove it, newbie!

John

--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 09:16:02 PST
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Saturday January 09 1993 08:18, Randy Crawford wrote to All:

 RC> Messers Johns and Moseley didn't claim that function and character are
 RC> mutually exclusive, only that function seems to cost less than
 RC> character. And I think the observation is a valid one.  In nearly every
 RC> category, a japanese cycles exists which outperforms an equivalent
 RC> european model -- acceleration, top speed, smoothness, engineering,
 RC> touring comfort, reliability (arguable when vs. Beemers but quite
 RC> close).  It's only when the visceral component is factored in that these
 RC> so-called rice burners often fall short.  They just don't light my fire
 RC> the way the Ducs or the Harleys do.

     [text omitted for brevity]

And you go on to give a litany of emotional, sensual, and sensory attributions
which personally affect you and therefore lend character to this moto or that.

It is all merely personal ego in extension. In short, opinion. To insist that
character can be assigned to a motorcycle is fine, to insist it has any value
in comparision outside your own personal decision-making is valueless. The
Pacific Coast you speak of, while of no character to you or I, is assuredly
of high character to someone somewhere in the world. It only takes one example
contrary to demonstrate the point. No?

The Soul of the Machine is really you extending your own to it. Which is an
interesting commentary on you, but not on the moto.

John

--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck)
Subject: Re: A tantalizing calender....
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:15:15 GMT

In article <C0FtnG.39E@fulcrum.co.uk> rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.142001.46127@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>> And as I gaze at the soft flowing lines and tantalizing nooks and 
>>crannys and wonderful frames (oh yea, the bike's don't look bad either ;-),
>>I can't help but wonder if a Goldwing calender exist.
>
>Personally Goldwings *never* come into my mind when oggling flesh.
>
Very true, most of the Goldwings I've seen are ridden by guys weighing 300lbs
wearing a baseball cap, and smoking a large cigar. Although there
is this older couple in my neighborhood with his/hers Aspencades with bike-to-bike
intercoms. They even have one of those tent-trailer camper things.
I dunno, motorcycling is much different for them than me.

-Dan


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=> Motorola Cellular APD               |                                  <=
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: kgunn@emr1.emr.ca (Katherine Gunn)
Subject: TZR250 For Sale + Mich.Radials
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:03:34 GMT


FOR SALE --  $4,000 Cdn.
    TZR 250 - 1988  -  5,800 Km/3,500 Mi.
    -  exotica for the street or track 
    -  perfect condition
    -  all stock except for braided steel lines
       and Michelin HiSport Radials
    -  Yam shop manual plus assorted road tests, literature.
    -  delivery possible, depending on the geography!

FOR SALE --  $200 Cdn
    1 set Michelin HiSport Radials
    - 110/17, 150/17
    - brand new, never mounted
    - fit TZR 250, Honda 650 Hawk and others.

Trades ??  '90 - '92 FJ1200, if in top condition.  But with the GTS on
the horizon  . . . .  :-))     (or a race-ready Formula II RZ!)

Contacts as below for the usual info etc. (skip the Fax) or phone
evenings/ etc = (613) 729-0504.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Know of any motorcycles movies?
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:48:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.200002.7178@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>In article <104506@netnews.upenn.edu> ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (George Grevera) writes:
>>I'd like to compile a list of motorcycle movies or movies with good or
>>significant motorcycle action in them.  Then I'd like to add the list
>>to the FAQ if possible.

"Electra Glide in Blue", starring Robert "I used to be a Little Rascal" Blake.

There's at least one Chuck Norris movies (Delta Force?) that has him spending
a little time on a missile-equipped dirt bike.  Not scads of moto-action,
but gratuitous moto-action anyhow...


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              Lachman Technology, Incorporated
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
 __       There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
 \/                   followed by the words "Daddy!  Yay!"
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Application for DoD Membership
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:19:58 -0500
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Organization: CMU Alumni External Account

In article <1800@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:
> : In article <1788@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
> : > 	Attention... Cease fire...flames off...please.....
> : > 
> : > 				Ok, Now that I have your attention...
> : > 							I have a Number 
> : > 								#0780
> : 
> : 	You're going to get yourself a real bike now, right ?  Not just
> : the moped that you crashed ?
>
> etc. etc.
>
> : '92 CBR600F2 (Hon)   '79 XT500 (The Bitch)   '87 KDX200 (Moose)
> 
> 	^^^^^^^^^^^   perhaps its just me but I must say that my bike
> 	has lot just as mush going for it as your bike does...perhaps
> 	the guys I rode with (one of which has an F2) were always
> 	behind me in the mountains because they have been riding longer
> 	than I have.....I was taking the curves on my Standard just as
> 	well as a 500 interceptor with a small guy on it( and I was
> 	hanging off his ass in the curves and the straights....also a
> 	more experienced rider...) One day we will have to get

	It's not my fault you race the kindergarten school kids on
their tricycles.  Also, you might want to try riding somewhere other than
a parking lot.  Wait, have you gotten it that far ?

> 	together and see which is better you on your F2 or me on my
> 	CB700 NH.....(probably you, but my bike can hold its own in
> 	most situations....unless you start getting really fancy...)

	It's still a big, ugly water-buffalo.  BTW Have you checked to
see if you've got any gas in the tank ?  Mo-mo-cyle won't go without
gas in the tank !  Mr. Ryan wanna go wide his mo-mo-cycle !

> 	Mine's a ton better than your dinky xt500....

	Nanny-nanny-boo-boo.  Phht.  I fart in your general direction.

	I'd like to see your warthog handle off-road any day, boy !
Ah, but Mr. Namby-Pamby tricycle parking lot "street" rider won't go
off-road, he's afraid of getting his pretty pretty clothes dirty.
Why if that were to happen his momma might yell at him, wouldn't she.

> 
> 				Indignantly 
				^^^^^^^^^^^

	Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have a liftoff !

Ryan.  I'm sorry !  Please beleiev me, but you were RIPE for the picking.
I don't mean to offend you but ....

rolling on the floor laughing,
Rob
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   Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
                          Systems Engineer
                 AMA 642916   DoD 0593   FSSNOC 1721
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon)   '79 XT500 (The Bitch)   '87 KDX200 (Moose)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve)
Subject: Re: lane splitting/sharing poll 
	<726625499snz@morgan.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Starved Photo-Linux Hackers Association
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:14:13 GMT



              Lane            Lane            Lane        Lane           Helmet                                   
 Where        Splitting       Sharing (2 mc)  Sharing     Sharing        Required
           ("whitelineing")                   (cage/mc)   (cage/cage)    
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  MA           NO              YES             NO
                                                       
  Japan        YES             YES             YES           YES

  UK           YES             YES             YES
  
  FL           NO              YES             NO                            YES      



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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Interesting challenge of helmet law 
Distribution: world
Organization: "Industrial EcoDeath Corp"
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:36:51 +0000


In article <726096381snz@isma.demon.co.uk> sdun@isma.demon.co.uk writes:

>
>In article <1992Dec19.235113.26199@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>> c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu writes:
>
>>You are probably referring to challenges by the Sikh bikers in central
>>California.  The agricultural valley has many Sikh farmers, and, as you know,
>>Sikhism requires its adherents to wear uncut hair which they bind up in
>>a turban.  I can't see a 73-year-old originally from India as a anti-helmet-
>>law rabble-rouser (like the rest of us :-) ).  But I guess the "uniform law
>>of the land" principle was upheld.
>>
>
>Hmmm, I think that here in the UK, It *IS* allowable for a Sikh to claim
>exemption from helmet laws on religious grounds.
>
>Not too sure how they'd (the cops, that is) check it out but they must do
>otherwise all the MAG diehards would be apeing it!!
>
>Stephen


You have to be a shikh _wearing_a_turban_ at the time you are driving. I
reckon even most MAG diehards would baulk at wrapping on a turban before
every ride, even if they did know how :)

Neil
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)
Subject: Re: Kikustaatu-Do: The Way of Kickstart 
Distribution: world
Organization: Not much.
Reply-To: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:43:56 +0000


In article <ramarren-080193153555@kops.apple.com> ramarren@apple.com writes:

>The Zen of kickstarting an old, magneto Norton was knowing just how
>much to tickle the carbs. 

Carbs! Carbs!! 
    ^      ^

   Proper Nortons only EVER had 1 carb!


Tony

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