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From: operjsl@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Strange (REAL strange) emacs/kermit problem
Date: 12 Nov 1992 05:49:56 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Reply-To: operjsl@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.rose-hulman.edu

I managed to get emacs working quite nicely, along with kermit5a.  Well, I
decided to copy the emacs-defaults.el and default.el files from the lisp
libraries on our Sun network at school so that emacs at home would behave
like emacs at school.  Mission accomplished...all is well, EXCEPT..

As you may know Sun keyboards are kind of odd, so the school management has
setup emacs so that the DELETE key functions as a backspace and the BACKSPACE
key sends a ctrl-h.  On a PC, this is rather annoying.  So far, I have been
unable to find out where this key binding is set.  The REALLY strange thing
is that these key bindings are only in effect while running emacs from 
within X!  Running emacs from a standard console has backspace functioning
as normal.  The REALLY REALLY strange thing is that kermit5a somehow has
picked up on the settings, and now when I kermit via modem to the school's
VAX, pressing backspace sends a ctrl-h rather than a backspace, and delete
sends a backspace!  AHHH!!  Can anyone give me any clues as to how to correct
this?

Jeffrey Little
operjsl@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which is better for novice??? SLS or MCC-INTERIM!!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:09:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: victrola.1992Nov10.200935.507
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC

u9030062@golum.riv.csu.edu.au ("Ronald Ku") writes:
>	For a novice of linux like me, I am confused by SLS and
>MCC-INTERIM versions of linux. In some of the README files in many sites
>recommend to install SLS or MCC-INTERIM for the first time. But what is
>the different between these two versions of linux? Are they the clones of
>the "real linux"? 

>	SLS seem to be more compete and welly organise. Is it better
>than MCC-INTERIM in performance and portability? Could anyone advice me
>which one should I start with and what would be the advantages?

my experience (for what little it's worth :-)) is that mcc-interim seems
more stable.  However, it's basically an o/s package and doesn't have the
extras (mail, uucp, gnu, x, etc...) that SLS has.

the result is that you have to build your own SLS so to speak from mcc-interim
plus other stuff.  I don't mind in most cases, but it *does* take some time.

Here's my setup:

	mcc-interim 0.97pl2
	0.98pl3 kernel
	mailpak1.3 (elm2.3pl11 plus Taylor uucp1.03)
	newspak1.0 (cnews, tin1.1pl4, trn2.2, nn6.4.16, smail3.1.28)
	vixie cron
	perl4.035
	several communications packages (xc, minicomm, pcomm)
	X-v1.1
	jumptables 4.1 for the gcc2.2.2 that came with mcc-interim
	ps0.98
	getty_ps 2.03

as you can see, it's a lot of stuff that accumulated over the months :-)
but for me, that's part of the fun...your mileage may vary.

long term, I expect all the stuff I run to make it into either SLS or an
SLS-like kit...after you grab 'em all and install 'em all, it gets old...

(of course, my goal is to get uucp+news+mail+bbs up under linux, not
	to develop linux itself (except as a tester and porter of stuff).
	So, I'm not looking to really do kernel hacking at this time).

-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
    Running Linux/C-news/trn/Elm/Smail - we don't need no steenkin' MS-DOS 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: esaffle@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ed Saffle)
Subject: Xconfig errors... :(
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:30:08 GMT

Hi, fellow Linuxers!
  I grabbed the required binaries from tsx-11 to get X up and running
but I am having lots of trouble with the Xconfig file.  First I can't
get the mouse running at all.  It's on /dev/ttys0 (com1:).  The other
big thing is that my screen is a little off, but I think with a bit 
of reading I can fix that.  I have a 386dx-40MHz machine with
a trident 8900c SVGA card and a CTX non-interlaced monitor if that makes
any difference with the video problem.  
  Also, does anyone have pointers to some possible docs for Xconfig or
other stuff in X?  

  Maybe just a quick re-download of everything might help.  Oh yeah, I am
using .98p3 also if that helps.

Thanks all!

Ed
From: Geoffrey.Reed@p1.f3.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Geoffrey Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux.
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 16:31:22 -0800

  I'm lookinf for someone in the greater seattle area (southend) that
has the LATEST releases of Linux and sources and binaries that has
either a qic-40 (colorado compatible) tape drive or is willing to copy
them over to 1.44 floppy for me.  I have yet to get a High speed
modem...


 * Origin: StarShip Inconnu (1:343/3.1)
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Monday, 9 Nov 1992 16:24:17 CET
From: BARRY TITMARSH <BTITMARS@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: -News & a FEED!

more to this.. if any one gets the linux cnews to complie
let me know how..
my version is broken as well.
i have also been trying to get nntp.1.5.8 working
but inews hangs up just as the nees feed is spooled in.
idears.
barry.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdgauthi@mothra.syr.EDU (Mad Dog)
Subject: can graphics be displayed without X?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 09:47:00 EST

Right now I'm running the MCC release of Linux without any of the X stuff and
I was wondering if there was any way to display graphics files (*.gif *.bmp,
etc.) If I can do this then that dos partition might continue to shrink. 

PS -if anyone has some free time I'd appreciate any information you have on 
*nix packages.  In the future I would like to be able to use Linux as my 
primary OS but first I have to replace my dos word processor, comm program,
 etc.  Also, what exactly are the benifits of having X?

-Matt Gauthier
mdgauthi@rodan.acs.syr.edu
From: chet@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Chet Ramey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: FIX: UUCP, !, bash and smail
Date: 13 Nov 1992 20:04:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.ins.cwru.edu

In article <4926TB2w165w@dogear.spk.wa.us> bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:

>Bash really pissed me off too --for the same reason. I think linux
>should have a nondescript plain-jane bourne shell for system level
>functions. Having to hack sources for os compatibility is one thing,
>but having to do it for shells is pretty bizarre.

If you don't like csh-style history, start bash with the +H option, or
use `set +H', or type `histchars='.  This is all documented in the man
page, at least the one I wrote.  You could put it in /etc/profile, if
you like it that little.

>While I'm whining, is there any documentation available to fill the
>gaping holes in the man pages?

Please be more specific about the `gaping holes'.  I have changed the
manual page quite a bit since the 1.12 release; perhaps the updated
version will satisfy you.

Chet
-- 
``The use of history as therapy means the corruption of history as history.''
	-- Arthur Schlesinger

Chet Ramey, Case Western Reserve University	Internet: chet@po.CWRU.Edu
From: mjm@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mike McBain)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: shell-init: Permission denied
Keywords: chmod 0755 /
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:03:36 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

Thank you everyone who responded to my problem with shell-init: Permission
denied. It *WAS* a permission problem with /. chmod 0755 / fixed it
completely.

To those who suggested that permissions were wrong on the user's home
directory (about 12 people). If that had been the problem, it wouldn't 
have been a problem.  I know I said I was a dork, but on a 1-5 scale of 
dorkness, I probably only rate a 2, rather than a 5. But wrong permissions 
on / . . . I don't think I would *ever* have worked that one out for myself.  
Thank you all.
-- 
---
Mike McBain                                 David Syme Faculty of Business
mjm@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au                  Monash University - Caulfield
+61 3 573 2646                              Australia    3145
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Saturday, 7 Nov 1992 09:25:41 CET
From: BARRY TITMARSH <BTITMARS@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Help to compile lx.98.3 ?? (was Where is it?)
 <1992Nov4.184509.3752@serval.net.wsu.edu>

Hi all i have been trying to get linux 0.98p3  to compile
can some one tell me what the secret is ? there must be sym links missing
and there is some rubbish in the boot/setup.s  where you cant compile labels
i did a quick fix on this but there is more errors from make files missing
and .h files not found  [ the setup.s fix eas i used an old version]
just to get past that error to see what else was wrong.
so is there a src code somewere that will compile as 0.98.3 ?
let me know.
barry
Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 12 Nov 1992 07:22:48 CET
From: <K111114@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: wd8003 / com1 irq3 solution (contd)

i forgot to mention the following:
telnet-ing TO the machine takes a long time until the "login:" prompt.
telnet-ing FROM the machine is fine :-)
(allthough i sometimes get a "tcp/telnet" unknown service, but it is there in
 /usr/etc/inet/services ...)

Herp :-)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wunder@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Marcus Wunderlich)
Subject: fig2dev available
Organization: Communication Networks
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:33:27 GMT

Figdev is now available as a binary from ftp-site 

	ftp.dfv.rwth-aachen.de, directory pub/linux/wunder.
	
The fig2dev source code I found on some ftp-servers contains some bugs
and my intention is to make it available for all those linuxers who
don't want to compile it for themselves. Any comments are welcome.
-- 
____________________________________________________________________________
Marcus Wunderlich	    Germany
Habsburger Allee 23	    Tel.  : +49-241-79986
W-5100 Aachen		    e-mail: wunder@dfv.rwth-aachen.de
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alsaggaf@athena.mit.edu (M. Saggaf)
Subject: Re: Communication packages
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:24:01 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:14:22 GMT, paschall@ocf.berkeley.edu (Greg Paschall) said:
GP> Nntp-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu

GP> I am looking for a communications program that allows for scrolling back
GP> through what has been seen.  Are there any such programs that run well on
GP> Linux.  Do any exist that run under X possibly.  Or am I going to be forced
GP> to write one myself?  (I'd like to be able to scroll back at least a 1000
GP> lines or more, but no more than say 9000).

I have just the program you need. It's called Seyon and you can find
it on sunsite. It's X-based and can have as large a scrollback buffer as
you like (since it utilizes xterm). Sunsite has version 0.0 and
version 0.1 is due out soon (sunsite is probably going to be its
'home' and later versions may be obtained from there as well). It adds
many features and corrects a few omissions.

P.S. to have, say, 5000 lines of scrollback buffer in Seyon, you just
have to put a line like:

	seyon.vt100.scrollLines: 1000

in your Xdefaults file.

--
/M. Saggaf
 alsaggaf@athena.mit.edu
From: mls10@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew L. Semersky)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Trouble linking LISP
Date: 8 Nov 1992 07:19:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mls10@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew L. Semersky)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


     I recently ftp'ed the Linux port of LISP from tsx-11.  After issuing
the following command:

	>> gcc lisp.a -L. -lreadline -ltermcap -s -o lisp.run

ld segmentation faulted ( received a signal 11 ).  I didn't seem to have
any problem linking the german transaltion port, but I don't speak German.
Any ideas? Besides learning German.

Thanks in advance,

Matt Semersky
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jjeong@thoralf.uwaterloo.ca (Joohee Jeong)
Subject: Xconfig for Trident8900C
Summary: A (working) Xconfig file for SLS
Keywords: Xconfig, Trident8900C
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:32:22 GMT

I think the following Xconfig file of mine could help some people
out there.
I am using Trident8900C (Bios Version 3.01) and Microsoft compatible
mouse on COM1.
If you are trying to install recent SLS, then you might have to 
run mkfontdir in each of the font directories.

 ----------------------------------------

FontPath	"/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"

Keyboard
  AutoRepeat 500 5
  ServerNumLock

Microsoft "/dev/ttys0"

vga256
  Virtual	1024 768
  ViewPort      0 0
  Modes	        "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"

vga2
  Virtual	800 600
  ViewPort      0 0
  Modes        "800x600" "640x480"

ModeDB
# OFFICIAL VESA Monitor timings + IBM Standards - TRY THESE FIRST
# Contributor:          Thomas Roell [roell@sgcs.com]
# Last Edit Date:       3/29/92
#
# name        clock   horizontal timing     vertical timing      flags
 "640x480"     25      640  664  760  800    480  491  493  525
               31      640  664  704  832    480  489  492  520
 "800x600"     36      800  824  896 1024    600  601  603  625
               40      800  840  968 1056    600  601  605  628
               50      800  856  976 1040    600  637  643  666
 "1024x768i"   44     1024 1040 1216 1264    768  777  785  817  Interlace
 "1024x768"    65     1024 1032 1176 1344    768  771  777  806
               75     1024 1048 1184 1328    768  771  777  806
               85     1024 1032 1152 1360    768  784  787  823
 "1280x1024i"  80     1280 1296 1512 1568   1024 1025 1037 1165  Interlace
 "1280x1024"  110     1280 1328 1512 1712   1024 1025 1028 1054
              135     1280 1312 1456 1712   1024 1027 1030 1064


  -----------------------------------------------------------------

  Joohee Jeong                  jjeong@thoralf.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tsillan@niksula.hut.fi (Timo Jaakko Sillanp{{)
Subject: X & 800x600 ?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:01:35

Hello. I installed the SLS distribution of Linux (0.98.1) and X Windows.
And I'm impressed but I have a little problem. I hope somebody
could help me.

I have a Paradise compatible CVGA 1024 (512Kb) and a Morse VGA
Plus monitor (800x600, 1024x768 interlaced). X finds my card 
and tells me it's a 'pvga1'. I don't know the clock values of 
CVGA (since the manual says nothing about them) but X tells 
me '25 28 36 0 0 0 0 0'.

X works fine at standard 640x480 VGA resolution. I can even
get 800x600 at 28MHz clock, but it flickers too much and 
there are no borders i.e. the image covers the whole screen.

At 36MHz it doesn't work. The image is quite good, its 
centered and even the size is quite good. But there are
horizontal stripes all over the screen. They are not
in the video RAM since they appear randomly and only
very short periods at a time (i.e. I can barely see them).
But when I move the mouse a real circus begins. There
are a lot of stripes, especially around the (white) 
windows. Every third or fourth line seems to shift or
actually grow to the right (or left), for example:

----------------------------
l                          l--------  <- white stripe
l                          l 
l white window             l--------  <- white stripe
----------------------------

The stripes disappear almost entirely when I stop moving the
mouse.
At the middle (horizontally) of the screen it seems like there
were two mouse cursors since parts of the cursor (a cross) shift
to the left or right.

In DOS, Windows and OS/2 I can get 800x600 without flickering.
I don't know the clock value though.

According to my cards manual the values it uses are:
              horiz.freq.    vert. freq.
800x600x16:   35.2KHz            56.2Hz
1024x768x16:  35.5KHz            86.9Hz   interlaced

(1024x768 doesn't work since X tells 512Kb isn't enough.)

I found a program named 'timings.exe' which tells me the
default values for the 800x600 mode (they where quite similar
to what I had found by calculating):

800 840 984 1024  600 600 610 623 Interlace
(Interlace!? Well, I think that part isn't correct.)

I have also tried every value I have seen posted here and
those in the Xconfig.sample and Xconfig.orig and ...

Help!?

TS alias tsillan@niksula.hut.fi

P.S. Please reply by email. I will post a summary if somebody
     wants. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: venaas@flipper.pvv.unit.no (Stig Venaas)
Subject: Re: broken pipe after reboot
Organization: ProgramVareVerkstedet - UNIT
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 08:42:46 GMT

The reason for the broken pipe errors when you try to reboot, is that
utmp isn't always updated when people log out. You will see this
if you take who. When you try to reboot, reboot tries to write
messages to people who are logged out, and you get broken pipes.

When I reboot, I first do
rm /etc/utmp ; touch /etc/utmp

Stig

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: grindley@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Robin Grindley)
Subject: Diamond Stealth/S3 server still not happy
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:47:43 GMT

A previous poster said his Stealth and MAG monitor were working, but i have
the same config and there are still some rough edges.

First, the server just hung if the Speedo directory was included in my 
FONTPATH, and i had to reboot the machine. Leaving in only 75dpi and misc
worked OK (well, sort of, read on).

Second, the only mode i can get working is 640x480, and when i do this
the fonts are completely messed up. Instead of displaying characters it
just shows solid blocks of either white or black where the characters should
be. (i.e. all pixels in a character box of 9x16 are either on or off) The
pattern of on/off depends on the character though, so it looks like some
bit in the ascii is selecting the block colour.

I have seen it hinted at that the Stealth has a programmable dotclock.
I am going to run clock.exe tonight, but is there any info on this
type of dotclock and how one goes about programming it? (I caught just
the tail end of some flak on Diamond making this knowledge proprietary, but
is there any general info on how these dotclocks work?)

-- 
robin

 		iNSANITY - It's only a state of mind

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Working xlock for SLS uploaded
Summary: to sunsite.unc.edu
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:33:06 GMT

    To whoever posted about the xlock in SLS 0.98 not working (and others),
I have uploaded a working one to sunsite.unc.edu in pub/Linux/Incoming as
xlock2-bin-jump41.tar.Z.  I hope that Peter will replace the xlock in the
SLS distribution with this one.

--
   Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
      "Who can doubt that pleasure is the only goal of a reasoned life?"
                                                   -- Epicurus
From: g-majar@cs.yorku.ca (Bernard Majarais)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Removing shoelace
Date: 8 Nov 92 03:01:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.1549
Distribution: world
Organization: York University, Dept. of Computer Science


Just doing a followup to my own question. The solution is to use Dos 5.0's
fdisk /mbr, where the /mbr is undocumented. What it basically does is
rewrite the master boot record with the standard one.

Thanks to those who replied.
-- 
Bernie  (g-majar@cs.yorku.ca)	| If life is a highway then what should
				| the speed limit be?
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hans@mo.hobby.nl (Hans Oey)
Subject: Re: Linux - the future?
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:25:50 GMT
Organization: Makkee & Oey

keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith) writes:

>Who's "we" I could care less.  I use EMACS.  However the people I do
>work for.  (LOT's of people) demand it.  Techie types who've never been
>in an office where real work is being done tend to lose perspective.  I
>don't mean niche work either.  Visit 5 lawyers offices, and 5
>accountants office at random in your area, and see what they are using
>for Word Processing.  Wanna take any wagers you won't find *ANY* that
>are using roff or Tex?  (Yea, I'm sure there are exceptions, but I'll
>make the bet with anyone willing to roll the dice with the yellow pages.)

I know of at least one law firm were they use GNU emacs and LaTeX.
With a proper setup it's an ideal environnement for enormous
amounts of standard business correspondence. The secretaries
with WordPerfect experience found WP much more complex.
No, they never need to program any Lisp macro's, but
they love the incremental regexp-search.
--
Hans Oey
hans@mo.hobby.nl
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bradshaw@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
Subject: Solution: Bus Mouse problem with X-Windows
Keywords: x,busmouse
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:05:08 GMT

Thanks to pete cervasio who pointed out I should try setting Linux to
IRQ 9 even though my MS bus mouse was in IRQ 2 I can now use X!

>You probably need to change the definition to 9.  On AT and later class
>machines, IRQ 2 is a cascade from the second interrupt controller, and
>the IRQ 2 line actually goes to the second controller as IRQ 9.  I'm
>using that IRQ here for my Wangtek tape drive.  Under DOS I tell the
>backup software to use IRQ 2, but under Linux I had to tell the qic-02
>driver to use IRQ 9.

Well, it works fine. /usr/src/linux/include/linux/busmouse.h is the
file that needs to be changed.  Thanks!

-- 
 Jonathan Bradshaw | jonathan@nova.decio.nd.edu -or- jbradsh2@darwin.cc.nd.edu
  Packet: n9oxe@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na | Prodigy: XMSN02B | (Os/2)(DOS)(Linux)
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  - "Busy life, not enough time to look in the mirror." - Deborah Ann Gibson -
From: michael@gandalf.moria (Michael Haardt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: which(1) ? where-is-it : I-wrote-one
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:40:38 GMT
Reply-To: u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Organization: An old and gray machine, somewhere in Moria.
Return-Path: <u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>

Hello,

I just noted that the GNU shellutils don't include which(1).  If there
is a version floating around, I would like to know where I can get it,
otherwise I offer to make mine (including manual page) available.

I am not too happy with using the one from Minix.  It is ok for me,
because I bought Minix, but others didn't and I think giving Minix-which
away is a copyright violation.

Michael
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux