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From: martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Subject: Re: Need INIT to *reduce* screen size.
Keywords: extension INIT reduce screen size games etc
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:49:28 GMT

I asked for some way to trick my PB100 into thinking it's screen was 
512x342 so that I could run games like Beyond Dark Castle and others 
that seem to expect a small screen.

A large number of people too humerous to mention (thank you all)
told me about an INIT called MiniScreen 1.2 by Morgan Davis.
It allows the screen to be defined arbitrarily small at startup,
and is available from many places on the 'net : a search for
'miniscreen' with archie will find an archive near you.

Unfortunately, this INIT only works on Colour Quickdraw capable Macs.
Which doesn't include the PB100, of course.

A couple of people told me it was likely I had no hope of getting
these things running on a 640x400 screen:

  James McCarthy:
  >The problem is, it sounds like they've got a 512-pixel width hard-coded
  >into the game.  And there's no software that will detect when a program
  >simply adds (512/8 equals) 64 to an address that happens to point into
  >video ram.  If they'd gotten the proper value from the proper place,
  >this wouldn't have happened, but as it is...

  d88-jwa@nada.kth.se :
  >You _can't_ make the physical rowBytes less. If the games
  >hard code rowBytes, well, they do...

But on the other hand, Helen Rose wrote:
>This is odd, as I've had *no* problems running Dark Castle (or Beyond)
>on Powerbook 140 or 170s.

Either I have old versions of these games, or they assume a 68000 Mac
always has a 512x342 screen.  My Beyond Dark Castle is dated 1987 (no version). 
Any further help would be much appreciated.

Martin
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dave@gergo.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Subject: Re: ms window emulator
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:18:00 GMT

In article <s3q-75-@engin.umich.edu>, JNeedleman@MCIMail.com (Jeffrey L. Needleman) writes...
}In article <zaphod-040992161026@gregt.winona.msus.edu> Gregory Talmo,
}zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu writes:
}>> Is there such a thing as ms window emulator on the mac?  I saw ads about
}>> ms dos emulator for the mac. Is it possible to run ms window on top of ms
}>> dos emulator? I imagine it would be extremely sluggish if it works that 
}>> way.  Does it work?  How sluggish?
}
}An MS Windows emulator for the Mac has been posted to
}sumex-aim.stanford.edu. It's available by anonymous ftp filed as:
}/info-mac/game/window-3.hqx
} 
}It is not sluggish at all, and it works about as well as the real Windows
}in my experience. You do get an error message or crash now and then.

You probably should have put in smileys -- the guy did ask a serious question.
(though you have to wonder if he seriously wants to run Windows at all ;).
While the Windows placed on SUMEX is very well done (emulation-wise, that is),
it's only real function is to play the minefield game.

In fact, I showed the Windows emulator to a coworker (who has been learning
to program in Windows -- he was amazed how much I already knew about the
concepts of resources and RGB color values and such) and he kinda did a
"Wow! That IS Windows!" Then he saw all the error messages, and I ran the
mine game, and his comment was "Wait, that can't be Windows. You didn't get
an error message on that."
Well, no matter how hard someone tries to imitate something, it's never quite
the same...

:-) ;^) B~) 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: FTP HELP NEEDED (Please read this)
From: $ennsnr@brandonu.ca
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:04:55 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

FPT HELP NEEDED!!!

Sometimes when I login to an ftp address via anonymous, I am not allowed to 
view or enter directories. Does anyone know why this happens. It has
happened to me at the following ftp addresses:

	sumex-aim.stanford.edu
	ftp.apple.com

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

"To be average scares the HELL out of me"
Neil Enns
$ennsnr@brandonU.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: do you have system 6.0.8.?
From: $ennsnr@brandonu.ca
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:51:17 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Do you have a copy of system 6.0.8.?

I am looking for a version of the system and its compatible finder later than
version 6.0.8. but NOT system 7.

I have system 7 on a mac already, and for various reasons would like to keep
my other on system 6. I recently purchased a new program that needs a version
later that 6.0.5., hence my problem.

Does anyone know where I can get one?

thanx,

Neil Enns
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: Re: Developer CDs
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:44:16 GMT

Still in search of the best dim sum place in Michigan! 

  it> If you need an "official" Apple copy, get it from the Apple
  it> Developer's CD (free with a subscription to Develop). The latest CD
  it> ("Hack to the Future") is now out, and among its many goodies are
  it> International System 7.0.1 for Russian, Czech, Hunarian, Polish,
  it> Croation, etc. And of course it has the Tuneup 1.1.1.
  it> 
  it> Bruce Long Arizona State University
  it> 
  it> --- AMB v6.33
  it>  * Origin: zeus.ieee.org [140.98.1.1] (1:107/10)

Where do I write to get a subscription and how much? Please help!

Thank you in advance.

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From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: ATM for free, or is it?
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:06:20 GMT
Distribution: na

Brent D. McLean writes
+ 

+ version 2.0.3 for $59. So what's the deal? Is it free or not? Just
+ wondering.

It is, or perhaps was, free. We got our copy about a month or so
ago. 2.0.3, for $7.50 and Adobe Garamond fonts.

James
From: boyd@apple.com (Scott Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Later System's won't have TrashCan?
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:41:10 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <1992Sep11.130235.6852@mmm.serc.3m.com>,
pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com (Paul E. Jacoby) wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine read an article in USA Today (either Tuesday or
> Wednesday's edition) which apparently claimed that later System release
> for the Macintosh will no longer sport the Trash Can.  The article said
> something about how it causes too much confusion....
> 
> My friend also inferred from the article that this "trashless Finder"
> could happen as soon as System 7.1.
> 
> Any creedence to this 'report'?  I don't hold USA Today in any sort of
> esteem as a high-tech-reporting-journal, but he seemed to think it might
> be fact.

Yes, there is credence to this 'report'.  Having read it, I have to smile
a little bit at calling it a report.  USA Today, the state-of-the-art in
journalism :-)  I thought it was so funny that I copied it and stuck it
up on my wall at work and gave copies to my friends.

What they're talking about is "At Ease", the simplified interface built
with kids in mind.

The Finder itself will continue to "sport the Trash Can" for some time
to come.

scott
boyd@apple.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sweimar1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Steve Weimar)
Subject: AppleTalk and "Printer port in use"
Organization: Education Program
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:26:09 GMT

I use AppleTalk Remote to connect to the network on campus from home for
email and printing and news. I have an Imagewriter at home that I use
occasionally.  The big hassle for me at the moment is using ARA after
printing on the Imagewriter.  I get a message in the Chooser that the
printer port is in use and I can't enable AppleTalk even when there's no
printing going on or any other application open.  It seems that I have to
reboot to enable Appletalk, which then takes effect after rebooting, so I
have to reboot again.  Undoubtedly there's something obvious I'm missing. 
It can't be this convoluted.  Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro)
Subject: Powerbook 100 Quicktime/32bit QuickDraw?
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:06:55 GMT
Summary: can't start quicktime on powerbook100 HELP?
Keywords: quickdraw powerbook 100 quicktime init extension

A friend of mine (with no net access) has just bought a cheap
powerbook 100 and upgraded it to 4Mb RAM.

She has the quicktime extension and would like to run it but
when the desktop appears a dialog is displayed that says...

Quicktime could not load because it requires 32 bit quickdraw...

I thought System7 had 32 bit QD internal. Is there a control
that needs to be switched?

email me and I'll summarize

--alen
alen@crash.cts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cyor@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (           )
Subject: $$$$$$$$$$       RESULT OF MY CASE IN WARNING     $$$$$$$$
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:19:14 GMT

Hi!




As requested by some of you, I am posting the result of my case
regarding to Second Wave.

They gave me 90% of the credit and take that 10% as restocking.
I don't think they should take that 10% off since it was their
mistakes.  However, I have to goto school so I don't have time
to pursuit them.

Please note that a guy form Uof Michigan said that the UofM bougth
something from Second Wave and they never give refund to them.
(I am sort-of lucky).  He said that SW uses many different names
to play the game of law.


Thanks for all those who provided !!    



End of case...



								Jimmy....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jachang@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeesung Chang)
Subject: Virtual memory
Summary: mine doesn't work
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 08:39:14 GMT

Hello. I have a IIsi with system 7.0.1 and the latest tune-up. I know it
used to work but now the virtual memory doesn't work. All the other parts
of the Memory cdev work fine (RAM cache, 32-bit addressing). I thought
it might be a conflict with an init so I removed all non-apple inits/cdevs/etc
from the system and still doesn't work.

Has this happened to anyone and does anyone have a solution?

e-mail replies to jachang@leland.stanford.edu

thanks in advance
Andrew



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From: CASTILLO@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu (Ulysses Castillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: backgrounder && hypercard 1.0 v. hypercard 1.1
Date: 8 Sep 92 07:49:03 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: The Camelot System /~
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

Hullo folks....

I have two questions:

1) I have hypercard v1.1, and a hypercard stack that is apparently v1.0;
my version of hypercard refuses to let me open the stack claiming only that
it is "Old file format."  Is there any way to get around this problem other
than finding a copy of hypercard 1.0?

2) My brother gave me a copy of backgrounder, but he didn't tell me how
to use it, can someone please give me a few hints about to use it?

Thanks.

Ulysses.
_____
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Castillo@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
"And be assured, I am with you always, to the end of Time.", Matt. 28:20
From: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: "Not an HFS Disk" reported by Disk First Aid!?
Keywords: disk first aid
Date: 5 Sep 92 11:13:25 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hi. I was running Disk First Aid (System 7 version), and was told that
my secondary drive (on which I keep my virtual memory) is "Not An HFS
Disk"! I haven't been having any problems with it -- it has the System
7 driver installed on it and all. It's a Quantum Prodrive 40,
formatted with SCSI Director.

Does anyone know whether there's a way to fix this without
reformatting the drive? I sounds serious...

Thanks,
Ralph
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Phone: (609) 757-6122; Internet: rgonzal@elbereth.rutgers.edu
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From: mirsky1@husc8.harvard.edu (David Mirsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: CLoseview Opposite?
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:28:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep7.232826.15450
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Hi. Im wondering is there is a cdev which does the opposite of
the Closeview cdev. That is, a cdev which can make the whole
screen view smaller. I use a desktop mac, and would love to be
able to occasionally scale down the whol screen to fit more in at 
once. Thanks
 
David
mirsky1@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell)
Subject: Re: LCII Sys7 Where did the Disk Memory Go?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:18:23 GMT

I have another question now. I took my SUM utilities over to my friends house
and just did some checking. One of the things I ran was Disk Tuner asking it
to report all inits. It listed 3 inits: ID 10, ID 12, and ID 13 Tuna Helper.

??? Anybody have a clue what these are? There isn't anything in the system 
folder that gives me an idea of where these came from.

Thanks again

Skip
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joel E Callan)
Subject: Re: DiskFirstAid, files open, can't repair ?
Originator: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:49:33 GMT

From article <1992Sep8.162428.15041@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, by sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven Grenander):
> All of a sudden Disk First Aid won't repair one of my drives. It
> claims that there are files open on the drive. As I have booted
> from another drive and have opened nothing (at least not intentionally)
> I'd like to know how I can find out _what_ files are supposedly open.
> 
> I'm normally under 7, but the drive I boot from (before launching
> Disk First Aid) has 6.0.7 and I	designate it as the system to boot using 
> SystemSwitcher.
> 
> I've tried the repair several times, with several re-boots and I'm
> stumped.
> 
> Any suggestions ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -Sven

  An easy solution is to boot from a floppy (Disk Tools disk).

Joel Callan callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
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From: Kaz.Karl@f1138.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Kaz Karl)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Enough News Already!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 01:50:45 -0500

After reading nearly half a dozen RACIST DEGRADING TASTELESS posts, I'm
starting to think that comp.sys.mac.system is all a joke.                  

    Oh, you pathetic little self riteous, politically correct losers...! Yeah,
I'm sure everyone is just mortified over their silly little posts...no, only you
few whiney loudmouths who get a weak substitute for self esteem out of being
offended over a few silly words...
   >Everything< is potentially humorous...but of course that's not so tosomeone
with no >real< sense of humor...oh, go practice abstinance or protest clean
power sources or something...you're anti-anti posts here a a greater waste of
space than their sillyness...I can ignore stuff like their posts, but when
someone comes online and starts saying they should control what's on here, they
drag me into it...   
Get a life...

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.system:11699 comp.sys.mac.misc:16135
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Should I turn 32-Bit Addressing On or Off?
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:24:26 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <Bu7twH.4Bo@well.sf.ca.us>, vito@well.sf.ca.us (Andris Paul Vitols) writes:
>
> Pretty weird... I've been using system 7 on an LC II for several months and
> have had 32-Bit Addressing off the whole time.  What are the pros and cons
> of this feature?  Will it de-stabilize things?  Speed things up?  Thanks...

32-bit addressing is mainly needed if you want to use more than 8MB of
memory. It *did* use to cause problems with several applications, but I
think most vendors have cleaned up their act by now. I have 32-bit
addressing on all the time on my LC at home, because that has 10MB of RAM
and I want to use it all. But my IIfx at work only has 8MB, so I run it with
32-bit addressing off.

Hacker's note: it's actually easier to write software in 32-bit mode. I wrote
some QuickTime code that worked fine at home, but promptly crashed on my work
machine. Various parts of QuickTime run internally in 32-bit mode, and I was
forgetting to take proper account of that when passing addresses from code
that might be running in 24-bit mode...

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
The death threat against Rushdie is just a load of Shi'ite.
From: chrish@strl.labs.tek.com (Chris Hubbard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: What do I do with .AFM files with my fonts
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:38:19 GMT
Reply-To: chrish@strl.labs.tek.com
Distribution: na
Organization: STRL, Tektronix Inc, USA

Hello,

I downloaded some of the type 1 fonts from mac.archive this weekend 
and in some (most) were .AFM files.  What I think it is is Adobe Font
Metrics, but I am not sure what to do with them (where to put them?!).

Can anybody help?

Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: lg14@rz71.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Seebach)
Subject: Hanging Mac
Reply-To: lg14@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:06:52 GMT

Hi Netters,

Since a few weeks we have a little Trouble with our Mac IIfx, running System
7.0: About half an hour after the last user action it completele hangs, 
regardless if your in the finder or in an application. Does anybody know about Init conflicts etc, which could cause this.
Our Control-panels/extensions are: Tune-up 1.1.1, Network-Stuff, Mac-TCP, After-Dark 2.0, Suitcase 2.0, ATM 2.02, DOS-Mounter 2.04, Apollo 0.8,Auto-Doubler 1.06
Maxima. This combination did not cause trouble for months.

thanks in advance

Michael

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dave@gergo.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Subject: Re: Win/NT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:41:00 GMT

In article <geeA9zO00WBKM1IXgP@andrew.cmu.edu>, ra00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Agustin) writes...
}On 05-Sep-92 in Win/NT                       
}user Kaz Karl@f1138.n261.z1.f writes:
}>   All you Windows Bashers should try to remember that the entire hardware
}>package needed to run Windows NT well will still cost a fraction of a
}comperable
}>Mac...Short an time...
}>CYA
} 
}Well, according to specifications dircectly from a flyer produced by
}Microsoft on the upcoming Windows NT:
} 
}    SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
}    The Microsoft Windows NT operating system runs on Intel 80386 and higher
}    systems with a recommended configuration of 8 MB of RAM and 100 MB or more
}    of disk space, or on similarly conigured RISC based systems.
} 
}[...]
}    What will Windows NT cost?  I doubt that it will be as low as what
}Windows 3.1 and OS/2 are currently selling for.  With the multitude of
}enhancements added as well as multi-platform support, I don't even want
}to speculate on the price.  

I've heard that it should have a suggested retail price of somewhere between
$300 and $500 for single-user. This may change by the time NT ships, and I
would expect MS to have a "special" short-term introductory price (kinda like
what they've started doing with upgrades -- buy now [as in "within the next
two months"] and save a whole $30 off the cost of upgrading to Excel '92 and
be the first to discover its "features" -- or upgrade later and pay the full
amount ["features" still included]).
I'd rather have a Mac. 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: xxmartn@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Jeff Martin)
Subject: Initialize AppleShare volumes ???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Sep 1992 15:21 EST  


Greetings net world,

I have a user who is running System 7 on a IIfx and every time they mount 
and AppleShare volume, they get the message:

"Unable to recognize disk. Do you want to initialize ?"

If, during the Mount process, they check the "mount at Startup" box, the 
drive will be mounted fine when they restart.

They have thrown away the System Folder and reloaded the system from disk..
this does not help.

Has anyone ever seen this?? 

Any ideas would be helpful.

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Please reply to  xxmartn@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: Re: savvy extension
Organization: Organization is for those who don't like chaos
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:52:13 GMT

Savvy uses the "Get Info" box, not the "About this Macintosh" box.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: lorenzo@spot.Colorado.EDU (Eric J. Lorenzo)
Subject: FTPed upgrade
Followup-To: poster
Summary: need help installing
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:13:07 GMT

I just FTPed what I believe to be the system upgrades for system 6.0.8 from
ftp.apple.com.  The two files I got are called:
          system-additions-image.hqx
          system-startup-image.hqx

My questions are:
-Do I need to put these two on seperate floppies or can I install them directly
 form my hard drive?  If not, how can I just 'put' them on floppies and have
 them work right?

-Is 6.0.8 the most recent system 6 Apple came out with before system 7?  I'm
 still using 6.0.1 on my SE and don't think upgrading to system 7 will be all
 that advantageous for my machine.

I'm not quite sure what I am doing, so any ideas, suggestions, instructions
will be appreciated if you can E-mail me.  

Thanks in advance
-Eric



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system