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President Bush will be speaking on PSU main campus on Wed.  What kind of politi
cal resistence\support has been seen on other campus visits thus far? The word
around PSU is that the Bush people are coming with 23 busses of supporters. Mos
t people seem to think that this is an attempt to "stack" the audience. Bush do
es not want to learn the hard way,like Thornbourgh, that PSU is not  a  politic
al pushover.  In the past 3 years, thanks to the intense efforts of a vocal few
,the student activst movement has become far more organized,accesable and much
more vocal. Wednsday is going to very interesting. The Secret Service is alread
y here. I wonder if they are reading this???See Crazy Daze MONDAY!!!
---------


Our befuddled VP visited Boise, ID a couple weeks ago.  The audience here
 was definitely "stacked".  The speech was originally set to be "staged"        outdoors in what we call "the grove" (actually its just a big brick area
between our convention "centre" buildings), but at the last minute they 
decided that all of the buildings in the area posed a security risk (too
many places to shoot from ;-)).  So they brought the production into the
convention "centre" and only allowed a limited number of 'supporters" 
inside.

The point is... they only let "supporters" inside.  No anti-anything posters,
some people even tried to sneak inside by turning their signs inside out and
putting "good" signs on the outside, they got caught and weren't allowed inside
The press even got milage out of these deceteful troublemakers.  Hecklers were
escorted out immediately, nothing negative was allowed within ear-shot of our
VP.

So think it over, have a good solid plan, and be prepared to look like a
Republican (aaaghhh).  You can outsmart the SS in sunglasses.

Have Fun !!  and dont wear your tie dye :(
                                               Tom Peterson


Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 09:09:59 -0400 
From: Ken_Ziolkowski@transarc.com
Subject: Tomorrow would have been...



  Tomorrow (Saturday, October 3rd) would have been
Stevie Ray Vaughan's 40th birthday.

  The sky is indeed crying.

KZ
From: shunter@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dark Star Crashes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: the Vince song
Keywords: in the strangest of places if you look at it right
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:54:23 GMT


Okay, this is really crazy, but trust me for a second. Go over to
your record collection and dig out Carole King's Tapestry. Last time
I checked it second only to dark Side of the Moon for length of time
on the charts, so SOME of you folks gotta have it... (I don't.)

Anyway, put on that song "I feel the earth move under my feet..."
I heard this song for the first time in a really long time, and the
resemblence to Vince's Long Long Way to Go Home is rather...uh...
scary. Just listen to it and see what I mean.

At least he's not copping Neil Diamond songs. Yet. ;-)


Dave
-- 
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*                           Dave Chesavage                                *
*                      shunter@igrad1.ucsd.edu                            *
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From: mark@csi.jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Webster)
Subject: Re: Jerry Joins the Geezer Set
Originator: mark@morningstar
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:18:44 GMT


In article <BvGx4q.8tD@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ncovey@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neil covey) writes:

|> 
|> Mabye Gramm will die.
|> 
|> We can only hope.

Now, now, this goes against the Grateful Dead philosophy of peace, love and harmony.  Better idea, maybe Gramm will have a heart attack, realize how fleeting life is, quit the senate, and follow the boyz on their next tour.

Mark
Eternal springs hope (and several others from the state pen, film at 11).
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From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Subject: Re: Got my Jerry tix!
Organization: The Internet
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:58:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.165842.15713@adobe.com> lstein@adobe.com (Larry Stein) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.205257.18636@lclark.edu>, hall@lclark.edu (Matthew Hall) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> p.s. 
>> Is this the first time JGB has played the Coliseium?

Will this be the first JGB "Werewolves of Oakland"?  Ahooooooooo!
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From: uajg@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Andrew Germaine)
Subject: Re: Starship Central Park Details
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:47:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.152402.4918@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> dsle@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.s.lerner) writes:
>
>The place is the Summer stage in Central Park at 5th Ave & 72nd street.
>The area only holds 8000 people and the radio station may set up bleechers but
>please bring a blanket/chair along in case they don't. Also, if more than
>8000 people appear, you can hear the bands from outside the stage area but
>won't be able to see them.

I might add that I went to the Woody Guthrie tribute show there this summer
and there was a small turnout becaus enot a lot of big names
played (woody guthrie, pete seeger..) (big to me but not most of NYC)
anyway... the "bleechers" they have certainly will not seat 8000 from
what i saw.. People sit on chairs and blankets on the dirt in front of
the bleechers. People come VERY early for these freebies.
I guess im saying dont expect to even be in the area of the show.
It is very small and you cannot see anything from outside of the
dirt floor/bleecher area. The sound is fine. I sat on some large rocks
directly across from the stage for the guthrie show and i was
about 1000' outside the back of the arena. Sounded good to me. Just
couldnt see. Bring blankets. Bring folding chairs. Bring food.
My $.02 

-- 
Andrew Germaine       |		          uajg@sunyit.edu
1212 Brinckerhoff Ave.|	    SUNY Institute of Technology, Utica NY 13502
Utica, NY 13501	      |  "If You Get Confused, Listen To The Music Play...."
 "And i'm not giving in an INCH to fear!" -David Crosby, _almost_cut_my_hair_
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re:  Diamondbacks: How are Neil's new CD's?
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:14:38 GMT


 gallo@almira.asel.udel.edu (Andy Gallo) writes:

|ODC: The Dead often played the Greek Theatre, where "Hot August Night"
|was recorded.

This is WRONG as every true DeadDiamondBackHead knows!
"Hot August Night" was recorded at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles,
not the Greek Theater at the University of California- Berkeley
where the Grateful Dead formerly played.

If this kind of disinformation persists, I am going to demand
a moderator and you, sir, have definitely not qualified for 
Diamondback of the Month!

I was just in the record store checking out the new releases.
While they do include some previously unreleased live performances
buy the originals first, then get the collections.  Everybody
knows the artist royalties are better for Neil that way.

Steve-TOO

"Good times never seemed so good..."
From: JAM0073%TNTECH.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu (DR. JOSIE MCQUAIL)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: utopian community of TWIN OAKS
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:04:24 GMT
Reply-To: JAM0073%TNTECH.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet

Does anyone know whether Twin Oaks in Louisa VA still exists
as a utopian community?  Please reply directly to me.  Via bitnet, address is
"jam0073@Tntech"
From: DURSO%CSPGAS11.BITNET@aearn.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at (Gianna Durso-Finley in Prague)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Sheet Music
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:39:43 GMT
Reply-To: DURSO%CSPGAS11.BITNET@aearn.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at
Organization: The Internet

Hey Now...
          I'm an ex-dead-flames user away for a year in what is, though may not
 be for long, Czechoslovakia. One of my goals for this year while my wife does
her dissertation research is to really jam on practicing guitar, and while find
ing a good used guitar was easy, finding any sheet music isn't. I know songs  &
   chords get bounced around on the net allthe time but I never saved any of th
em thinking , foolishly, that i'd always have net access.
          If anyone could send me songs they've pulled off the net, dead, non-d
ead, anything, stuff you remember, stuff you wrote, I'd be psyched. In post
 communist countries it seems that information is the scarcest resource, and
western stuff is tougher......I seem to remember an archive started? yes?no?...
...anyway, if you could send anyhing it would be manna from heaven. Many thanks
in advance & I hope to hear from someone soon.  I have access to this account
at times, so please send to Durso@cspgas11.  Nashledanou,         jeff
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From: loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection)
Subject: Deadhead store search
Organization: Quake Public Access, Sylmar CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:16:06 GMT

Do you know of a store in your area that carries t-shirts, jewelry,
stickers, incense...you know the type of store.  I don't want to use
the H word here...I am looking to get my stuff into stores, and off
this net (where it doesn't really belong).  

But finding out about stores is worth a free sticker to me so if you
know of one that I haven't heard of I will send you a free sticker.

I got slightly reprimanded for running a commercial venture on the
net, and I want to apologize to anyone who is put off by it...I 
sort of justified it cuz I'm so in the red, that I am not making
any money period....

Anyway please turn me onto any store in your area.  I WOULD BE 
VERY GRATEFUL...

peace,
Joe

P.S.  I know I'm sounding like a broken record but my catalogue
is just about done so those of you who asked for one, hopefully
I can send it out next week.  Thanks :-)
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From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Tour dates, confirmed and RUMOURED
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:32:03 GMT

Looks like maybe it's time to start this post again. Some rumours floating
around as to when we're gonna see the band again. Personally I don't think
there will be anything until December, and then just Dead, no Garcia. A
short mini-tour of Oakland-Tempe-Denver and then NYE sounds likely to me
(but then what the hell do I know :-).

***************************************************************************
As a service to the net and to cut down on all the traffic from people 
asking for tour dates, I volunteer to post a tour schedule (confirmed
and rumoured) on a regular basis. I have no rumour input other than
what comes across the net. If you want to correct or add to the rumours,
please email me at lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com.

***************
RUMOURED DATES:
***************

October 31	Oakland Coliseum?, Kaiser?
December 4,5,6	Oakland Coliseum
December 5,6	Compton Terrace, Tempe AZ
  or 12,13
December 8,9,10	McNichols Arena, Denver CO
 or 15,16,17
December	Sports Arena, Los Angeles, CA (unlikely?)
NYE run (Dec. 27,28,30,31 or 29,30,31) in bay area, Kaiser? Cow Palace?
February	Bay area
March		East Coast Spring Tour

Jerry Garcia:
October 31	Kaiser
December 18,19	Warfield (JGB)
December 20,21  Warfield (Garcia/Grisman)

-Jeff Lester
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From: NEAL@eds.ed.dreo.dnd.ca
Subject: New Year's Eve
Reply-To: NEAL@eds.ed.dreo.dnd.ca
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:32:36 GMT

OK, we'll assume that the boy's are going to play the Bay area on NYE
(since they have said as much in Rollong Stone). Is anyone interested in
driving from Ontario or upstate New York to San Francisco to catch the
show (assuming we can get tickets :-))?
	If you're interested, email me, and we'll see if we can work
someting out.

-Chris Neal

P.S. Thx to everyone who has responded to my grovel for help starting a
tape collection.



Practice Randon Acts of Kindness
And Senseless Acts of Beauty
From: ls3q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lisa M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dead as a Cult
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:42:30 GMT
Organization: Biological Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

copied from Scott Catey Message:

All this talk about how some people seem to think the dead as a cult got 
me wondering.  When I saw the boys in Vegas '91 I remember one of the 
dealers at Ceasars, an older woman, telling the people at her table that 
all this deadheads were a satanic cult.
 
WHY do people think this, you would thing heaven on earth would have 
gotten a better reputation than that!
 
Goes to show you dont ever know...

Scott Catey





  -- One man gathers what another man spills... -

lms
 
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From: fish@daacdev1.stx.com
Subject: WANTED: to trade for Dire Straits live french show
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:04:26 GMT

i'ld like to get a-hold of the Dire Straits live show that
was broadcast this week (pay-per-view) i only want the 
audio (preferably from the stereo FM simulcast)

i have the following DS to trade:
1979 tower theatre fm (low gen)
1985 wembley arena fm (master)

		thanx, fish

ODylanC: mark knopfler played with dylan (very briefly)
ODeadC:  the dead should play "Six Blade Knife"
--
John R. Vanderpool                INTERNET: fish@daacdev1.stx.com
NASA/GSFC                         VOX: 301-513-1683                
Hughes/STX Corporation            FAX: 301-513-1608
"fools in love, they're less than zeros, I should know..." -jjjj
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From: les@bach.udel.edu (Matthew Re Templeton)
Subject: Re: Terrapin Tape Update
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 13:50:50 GMT

In article <s2T1RB1w165w@c-cat.UUCP> david@c-cat.UUCP (dave) writes:
>Just ordered more tapes from terrapin tapes, they still continue the net 
>discount, but the rules have changed.
>It seems as though many college students have read about the discount here on
>the net and have been ordering tapes, wanting the discount.
>According to the guy I talked to, the discount is only for those who have
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>out of pocket expense paying for usenet fees. Not for everybody on the
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>net who has heard about the discount here.

Well, I'm paying about $8000 a year to use this account....

Still, the discount only took about $5 off my last order so it's not really
that earth shattering to begin with.  Although, wasn't the original person
who posted about the %5 discount posting from a .edu address?  I can't 
remember...seems like it was.

ODC:  Does anybody have a low-gen copy of 2/18/71 Set *I*?  I need the first
set (I have the second...love the "Bobby McGee") and am now unleashing my
piteous grovel for a copy.  I have about 70hrs to trade + phishbluestravsall
mansetc....
-- 
Matthew Reed Templeton  			  aka les@chopin.udel.edu
  Life is a precious thing - don't let it slip away.  In other words...
			  LIFE IS SHORT, PLAY!
			Smile 'til it hurts! :^)
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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: Phil Garris Dead Litho
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:21:21 GMT

In article <1320001@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>,
gbono@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (George Bono) writes:
> F O R    S A L E     F O R   S A L E     F O R   S A L E
>
> Phil Garris Dead litho: (Blues for Allah)
>
> signed and numbered original......
>
>
> $500    Johnny     707-528-7247
  ^^^^
GOOD LUCK, JOHNNY!!!!!  think if i bought this my landlord'd take it
for RENT? i'll trade it for a bridge, tho': we're tired of lookin'
at the carquinas!

lara
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From: William.A.Fekrat.1@nd.edu
Subject: Branford grovel
Reply-To: William.A.Fekrat.1@nd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:29:52 GMT


Howdy!

Have I any shame?  Nope.  So is their any kind soul who has tapes of the
3/29/90 Nassau show w/ Branford Marsalis playing in the second set.  I have
a few tapes I can trade, but not much. Maybe we can work something out
(blanks, $, 1st born, etc.)
Thanks,


=====================================
"This is as big a time as it gets..."
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bill Fekrat
William.A.Fekrat.1@nd.edu
=====================================

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From: belli@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jack Belli)
Subject: Re: Favorite venue?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:10:05 GMT

       
       
 Outdoors:The Greek,no Frost,no the Greek,Frost,Greek.....call it a tie.
 
 Indoors: The Incredible Hult Center and of course Home,I mean Kaiser.

  
                      Happy memories,
                                     Jack


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From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: Overdubbed Vocals on Without A Net
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:08:18 GMT


	Ok, so I've seen the posts here as of late that claim that certain
Garcia vocals were overdubbed on "Without A Net".  I'll assume for the moment
that this is true.  If so, shouldn't the band be liable for FALSE ADVERTISING???The overdubs invalidate the name of the album.  The overdubs are The Net.
They also invalidate the claim of being a "live" album.  I want my money back.
Whats next?  Jerry lipsynchin at shows?
From: burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Burnett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:  Favorite Tours
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:51:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Sep29.162402.28189@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com (Steve -- The Other One) writes:

> chadwicp@kenyon.edu writes:
> |Although Cal Expo has never had "the" show , it still remains as one of the
> |friendliest and most pleasurable places to see the boys.  It is small and very
> |intimate and most importantly it is outdoors.  
> 
> How soon we forget!!!  Doesn't anyone else remember the "Rain" show
> of August 14, 1991?
> 
> CAL-EXPO...Gone but not forgotten!

Ah, Steve, I remember this one!  It was great from my point of view, 
in part because it was one of very few west coast shows for me in the
midst of a still ongoing sojourn in the east.  But not just for
that reason ...

I didn't ingest any controlled substances for this show (that's
typical for me these days, for better or worse), but, by the
middle of the second set, the music had gotten me so high that
I could have sworn I was levitating above the crowd, being
bombarded by the amazing energy from the stage.  And it seemed
to me that I saw lightning in the distance, flashing in time
to the music.

Lots of great moments in this show -- the laughter & joy when they
broke out three (or four, if you count Crazy Fingers) rain songs
to open the second set; the wonderful surprise of an August
rainfall in California in the midst of a drought, one of the
jazziest jams I've ever heard coming out of Estimated Prophet 
& leading into a Supplication Jam, Jerry in shorts.

On tape, the show two days later at Shoreline (1st set Dark
Star & a *great* Scarlet>Victim>Fire to open the second set)
holds up better, but at the time, I would have chosen the
Cal Expo show.

I should say, I guess, that up until '89, all of my shows had been
on the West Coast, & that this was my first one out there after
having moved east.  What a nice show for my return home!

--Gary B.
-- 
Gary Burnett                             burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu 
130 Columbia Street                      gburnett@zodiac.rutgers.edu   
Highland Park, NJ  08904                          jera@well.sf.ca.us

"Things then did not delay in turning curious."  --Thomas Pynchon
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Angel does the Dead?
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:10:56 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Bill Moore writes...
>>22 Sep  r Angel                           Live Without A Net
>Well isn't that special! Some group called Angel must be
>putting out their own version of all the WAN songs! Kinda like
>that group that covered *all* of Devo's first album.
>Sort of a Deadicated follow-up, I guess.
>:-)

Actually, Bill, Angel was a typical glam/heavy metal outfit in the
late 70s/early 80s, and I remember "tolerating" that Angel album
back in my early high school daze.:-}  No, I didn't own it!;-)

ODC:  Kudos to David Gans for GD Hour #208.  The alternate version of
David Crosby's "The Wall Song" and the version of "Mystery Train" by
Garcia/Saunders/Grisman/Clements/Kahn/Kreutzmann were truly treats indeed.:-)

 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 | John J. Wood                              jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu  |
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 |			PLEASE GET WELL, JERRY!!!   			  |
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 | "Dad made whiskey, and he made it well,                     		  |
 |  Cost two dollars, but it burned like hell..."     			  |
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
From: fpf@aries.gasco.com (Frank Ferguson x3584)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Overdubs, In The Dark
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:06:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: gasco.1992Sep30.200634.4749
Distribution: na
Organization: NorthWest Natural Gas Company of Portland Oregon

It was recently suggested that In The Dark consisted of live
instrumentals and studio overdubbed vocals.  This is not what I
had understood to be the case.  I'd thought that the tracks were
recorded in a large hall with no audience (hence, in the dark--no
people out there, just a darkened hall.)  If this is true, I wouldn't
call the album "live" regardless of when or how the vocal tracks came
into being.  Seem to me, to be "live" in the conventially understood
sense of the term, you have to have an audience of more than a few
recording engineers and associated bystanders.  Were the vocals addded
to the instrumental tracks in a subsequent "dubbing" session?

Francis Ferguson
fpf@gasco.com
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