From: stojanov@husc10.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Muslims "Slaughter Their Own People"
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:55:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Aug30.195517.15234
Distribution: na
Organization: Harvard University Science Center



Mr. Blazic's representative wrote a big article.  Certain parts 
deserved a response.  I erased all parts where Mr. Grgic has openly
shown his ignorance of the situation and geography, his lack of reading
comprehension ( an UN report by their military personal, not 
journalists ),  his naivete in quoting Islamic press( cluster bombs, 
napalm ) and things that have been explained earlier. 

In article <92240.212000ADMN8686@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> <ADMN8686@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>  Tom Grgic writes:

>Your conclusion that the Bosnian government is criminal is a stupid
>one and bears no connection to any event.
>

So, Mr. Tom Grgic thinks that it is OK to lure hungry loyal citizens ( or 
disloyal to that matter ) out from shelters by offering bread, bring 
cameras and kill them by a blast ( UN Report )?  Nice.  I must admit
that Izetbegovic government gave a new meaning to the word criminal. 
I do not think that there is any precedence to this event in history.
Croats staged a bombardment in Banski Dvori, but they avoided having anyone 
injured ( they even carefully lowered a big chandellier onto the middle of 
the conference table without a scratch). 

>
>Later Dude and sweet dreams,
>
>Tom Grgic
>
>P.S. - You're fighting a losing battle, and deep down you know it.
>

Well, Mr. Grgic , some people do not use the deep ( under the clothes ?) down
thing for thinking :).

One should use "res gestae" to judge things.  And one could arrive to the
simple conclusion that both Croats and Serbs won this war.  They have 
made a viable, connected, ethnical territories, which would in one moment
become a single state.  They have lost some ethnical territories, but they 
gained other.  And no screaming, chip shots, and childish posting of the 
present day articles from NYT to brand Serbs as aggressors would change this
( this is equally intelligent as trying to prove that North Vietnam was
an aggressor in the war against South Vietnam, by posting articles 
from 1960-1970 published in some American papers ). What could be done, and 
what is done, effectively, is that Serbian image, carefully made through
more that a century of the just ( well, except Serbian-Bulgarian war 
in 1881 ), and glorious fight for freedom ( and democracy, I would add)
is being ruined.  And that is what I am trying to stop, by posting rare
and counter to the popular and simplifistic opinion, articles, like the
one exposing who are the bread line killers ( Izetbegovic government) , who
bombarded the funeral ceremony ( on the Orthodox burial ground - again 
Izetbegovic government ).  The article, which is, once again, based upon 
military experts from UN, that were there, ie. not those written by
third rate journalist, quoting just one side, like those usually appearing in
Toronto astronomy ( those more objective ones are usually misinterpreted 
and not given as a whole by Mr. Blazic, as proven by Mr. Jelich, on S.C.Y.).  
And remember that truth  is only one and is always the same ( when you
learn Serbian ( you would call it Croatian ) you would understand the 
root of the word "istina") .  And no matter what we are doing, once
it would come out the way it came about bread line or killing the American
journalist.  Sometimes it is hidden, and deserves more careful reading:

Tuesday, June 23, SF Chronicle: DOLE WANTS NATO TO AID YUGOSLAVIA- 
WHITE HOUSE HINTS AT MILITARY INTERVENTION (Buried in text)
.....Mortars rained down on Sarajevo, the battered capital of Bosnia, 
yesterday, killing at least 21 people, wounding at least 135, and 
shattering the U.N. efforts to open the airport to releif supplies.
The shelling appeared to come from Serbian positions in response to fire
             ~~~~~~~~                                   ~~~~~~~
by Bosnia's Muslim led defense.... ( emhasis added ).

So who started first?  Are those Serbian positions may be in a middle
of Ilidza or Grbavica, a parts held and inhabited by Serbs? 

Or:

Saturday, June 27, 1992, THE NEW YORK TIMES, ANOTHER HOPE IS DASHED IN
SARAJEVO, AS SERBS SHATTER AIRPORT TRUCE (Buried in text )
..... Fighters for the Bosnian Government, which is defending Sarajevo 
with a mixed force of Muslims, Croats and some ethnic Serbs, admitted that 
                                                             ~~~~~~~~
the fighting began when a Government commando force mounted a predawn 
raid of Serbian nationalist positions on the edge of Dobrinja.  ...
( emphasis added ). 

SERBS SHATTERED AIRPORT TRUCE? 


And so one.

Milan N. Stojanovic
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.greek