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From: nigel@isgtec.com (Nigel Burnett)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Appreciate Me Now and Avoid the Rush!
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:18:06 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

In article <1992Aug25.105010.49544@ccvax.ucd.ie> pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler) writes:
> The only *serious* problem in shopping for eats in the USA is the dearth of
> edible chocolate. Nestle's is sorta OK, Cadbury's can be found (but tastes
> nothing like ours), Hershey's is probably the worst I have ever tasted (the
> old Kisses trick is *much* better done with Leonidas Cherry Liqueurs) and

OK - this is an Offer You Can't Refuse - all posters to soc.bi that visit
me in Toronto (Ontario Canada) will be treated to a box of wonderful
hand-made Belgian chocolate that are made about 2 km from my house.  Of
course, hugs, cuddles etc etc are included in this offer.

Nigel
--
"It is an infantile superstition of the human spirit that virginity would be
thought a virtue and not the barrier that separates ignorance from knowledge"                                                                       Voltaire
Nigel Burnett:  business: 3030 Orlando Dr., Mississauga, Ont.,  416-672-2100
Send e-mail to nigel@isgtec.com, uunet.ca!isgtec!nigel, or nigel@isgtec.UUCP
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: == No Subject ==
Date: 23 Aug 92 10:30:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



+----------------------------------------------+--------------------------+
|sometimes love hurts me so bad I feel like    |cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk|
|I'm in pain, then I realise I've been in pain |cliveg@cix.compulink.uucp |
|all my life -- looking for someone to love.   +--------------------------+
+----------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
From: Drakon@cup.portal.com (HARRY BENJAMIN GIBSON)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Crossroads
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 92 00:59:14 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Owen, I thought I that was you coming down the pike.

Welcome to the Crossroads.I have been here a little while myself. I got a fire
going and got some chicken roasting. Its an old family recipe given to me by 
an old family.

You can't go forward and you can't go back. I know how that feels. But there 
is a third option. You can sit down and rest for awhile. You've come a long
way in such a short time, you're probably tired. Life isn't a race to see who
can get finish it first. Its a journey that should be enjoyed. As the ancient
Chinese philosopher, Loa Moo once said, "Sometimes, you just got to stop and 
eat the roses."

It doesn't need to be forever, just for a night or 2 Just to relax, re-charge
and regenerate. You don't have to get there today or right now. 

And your not alone. There's me, Coe, Ellen, Peter, Matthew and his pet pseudo-
nym, Ciaran, Olaf, Bethan, (stop me efore this starts sounding like the Mickey
Mouse Club rollcall) But the point is there is alot of us out here who are
your friends and are here, at the crossroads (or who have been here at the
crossroads before) If you need any kind of help, well isn't that what friends 
are for?

I understand how you feel about work. I can't even eat a banana at my job for 
fear. But you don't have to face up to them today, wait until you're stronger.

So drop your pack, unroll your sleeping bag here by the fire, and try some of 
this chicken. Just for a little while anyway.

Ben Gibson
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: safarj@aix.rpi.edu (Jonah Emanuel Safar)
Subject: Re: Alien Attitudes?
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:32:48 GMT

ss7m+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven M. Stadnicki) writes:

>One of the things that I've been thinking about recently is something that
>bisexuality, or perhaps more accurately polyamory, and furriness have in
>common: the attitudes involved are *so* utterly alien to most people that
>they literally can't conceive how people could hold them; they can't even
>be brought to begin to grasp the concepts involved.  This has been getting
>beaten into my head repeatedly lately with my coworkers (who I'm not out
>to yet, but I've listened a lot to *their* conversations)... what worries
>me more is that things also seem to be working the other way, that I'm so
>entrenched in my current attitudes that I have a hard time really understanding
>*theirs*.  Has anyone else ever really noticed this?

 Rather.  What actually fascinates me however is in a few of the relationships
I have been involved in where a girlfriend would tell me, "I know you want an
open relationship, but I don't think I can handle it.  However, I don't mind if
you sleep with another guy, just not another woman."  Its a start.  Now I could
start a thread on how love is more important to a relationship then sex, but I
have a feeling that would be a conversation we would never hear the end of.
 So back to the topic at hand (me ramble?  Never...).  In the few conversations
I have had on the topic with people (in other words with the ones who didn't
get this disgusted look, foam at the mouth at bisexuality or pull a condom
over their head lest they be corrupted by vile AIDS carrying ideas, there does
indeed seem to be a rather large leap of faith involved somewhere along the
line.  When you talk about love, romance, etc, etc. there are no problems, but
the second you step into outre territory, best be prepared to have a fight on
your hands.  Despite much of the openness (well, in some placres at least) that
people hold towards sex these days, it seems that once you are in a relation- 
ship, you are supposed to become a bibble thumping (maybe a bit overstated)
person declaring that to even look at another is wrong.
 I just don't see it.  Am I blind?  Maybe it's just a fair cop and society is
to blame... certainly wouldn't be the first time.  Now Steve, lets not even
get into Furrisms... I'll close with one quote I heard here at RPI concerning
Furry and I think it shall answer that topic well enough.
 "Furry?  Isn't that the thing perverts do on the computer?"
 "Yeah, I also hear they only type with one hand."
 "One hand?  Why?"
 "Because the other they keep under the waist-line."

 They could be more right than they know. ;)

-Points

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
At what point does an opinion become fact, or a lie, history?  Where is honesty?
________________________________________________________________________________
Jonah E. Safar             R.P.I., Troy, NY              EMail to:safarj@rpi.edu
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Cracker crumbs and where to put them
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:36:22 GMT
Organization: Eris's Restaurant

In article <1992Aug26.233055.49560@ccvax.ucd.ie> pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler) writes:
>In article <72mpbg0c@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>> Hah! *You* get digestive biscuit crumbs under your foreskin and see how
>> your sexual appetite dwindles...
>
>No, no, no, *you* get them under your foreskin and I'll be happy to remove 
>them...

Can't; it's long gone, along with the tonsils and the vermiform appendix
and the virginity.  Eheu, fugaces, as the poet says.

Actually, come to think of it, salt-and-vinegar crisp crumbs are reputed
to be worse.  Nasty, sharp triangular, acetosaline little caltrops, they.

				Kay

-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
From: elee52@castle.ed.ac.uk (Bill Gammie)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Michigan Wom*n's Music Festival
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:21:54 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <memo.609925@cix.compulink.co.uk> cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>
  lots of good, difficult to say stuff.



Clive,
      I don't have much to say, just expressing my support
for you.  It's always really difficult to speak about painful
experiences.  I think it's great that you did.  Feel free to
tell us as much (or as little) as you want to.

*love and kisses*

Bill - That's Dr. Flughelhorn to you -

Bill Gammie                                Phone:031 650 5612
Department of Electrical Engineering       email:bill@ee.ed.ac.uk
University of Edinburgh
From: pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Cracker crumbs and where to put them
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:30:55 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <72mpbg0c@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
> In article <37253@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug23.204233.23361@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> pclary@radish.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>>+It makes going to the supermarket (food mall) an entertaining field trip.
>>+Digestive Biscuits were the closest thing we found to Graham Crackers and
>>+that's not very close.
>>Digestive Biscuits don't sound like something that would quell the
>>sexual appetite like Mr. Graham's coarse grain crackers.
> 
> Hah! *You* get digestive biscuit crumbs under your foreskin and see how
> your sexual appetite dwindles...
> 
> 				Kay

No, no, no, *you* get them under your foreskin and I'll be happy to remove 
them...

///Peter
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons)
Subject: Re: Leaving Edinburgh ...
Organization: Ministry of Skritching
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:57:09 GMT

In article <SOL.92Aug27153132@kesson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> sol@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ana) writes:
|In article <42350@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, local distribution to soc.bi and
|some CS group, db@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Dave Berry) writes:
|   Today is my last day working here, although I'll be in next week to pack,
|   check my mail, etc.  I'll be in the Pear Tree on Monday evening to say
|   goodbye to everyone. 
|Oh yes!!!! We're going to the Pear Tree again!!!!! 

   Will someone be taking pictures, or is this gonna be one of those events
where people can't take time out to do that?
                 __
   david parsons \/ Who is amazed that the Pear Tree would let bisexuals in
		    again...
From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Enjoy t' Bi Conf, folx...
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:53:19 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <vrqpbafl@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk
(the Crisco Kid) writes:

>We're here! I'm typing this in over a 2400-baud PAD connection - a PAD
>so ancient that one needs to use numeric DTEs!  Justin, me, Malc, Judes,
>Clive, Bethan, Dave, Colin, Olaf, and Owen (and, wow, is he cute?!).

Kay, you are the first person EVER in my entire life to call me cute. Either
you're blind, or I've been socialising with the wrong people. I suspect the
latter :-). (And to think I called Kay cute in some EMail I just sent him.
What have I started now? :-)) 

>Still to come (at least) are Ang and Sara...
>
>Haven't slept for coming on 48 hours now, so the hallucinations are
>beginning to kick in, and I've got to facilitate a workshop in two
>hours.  Cross your fingers (or anything you can cross, in fact) 
>and wish me luck...

Well if you crossed anything else Kay, we'd all know about it due to the
marvellous thermochromic shorts you were wearing :-). Waking up on Saturday
morning to your sleeping face beaming away with Justin's arm draped
around you is a sight I shall never forget. When I crashed out I had no
idea who else was in the room. When I woke up I thought "where did Justin
get that teddy bear from? - oh, it's Kay". :-) :-).

Oh yes, I forgot to mention. Bethan and Clive pounced on me and enthused
dreadfully, but I can't blame them as Kay talked them into it. What I don't
understand is why Bethan has trouble with her taste in clothes and her
mother. My mum wears the sort of stuff Bethan wears all the time. OK so she
wears the boots while gardening and the lycra at other times, but still she
wouldn't look twice at Bethan. You'd have to add a serious dyke cut to freak
her out.

Owen.
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Swamp Thing)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Appreciate Me Now and Avoid the Rush!
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:17:12 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:

>Also "died", as in "I just about _died_ when I heard that"--at
>which point all my audience (in the cafeteria of Queen Margaret
>Halls, Bellshaugh Rd., Glasgow, with a pervading and repugnant
>reek of boiled Brussel's sprouts) just about died laughing, with
>comments like "They really say that!" and such.  Kind of like

So do the English; altho I bet the reaction in Glasgow would be much the
same!

>my reaction to "the wee shop 'round the corner", with which I can
>sort of fake a Glasgow (/Glesga/) accent....

I say that in my normal accent (English).  It's easy to pick up Scottish
phrases without trying in a few months, never mind a few years living in
Scotland (Embra).

>Piglet (happy to report that she's still a woman, and curious as
>to how the confusion came about in one who is much esteemed, and
>so shall remain nameless, if Nebraskaed)

Difficult to see how someone with AT&T email address eleanor could be
confused for a man ...

Sara
-- 
 >{8-)     Sara Hopkins     (-8}<              _____^__
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St. \ OOO/ / The Thing
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662 \++/ /   From
 >{8-) sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk (-8}<                \/\/ The Swamp
From: woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Mr Right
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:54:25 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

cjohnson@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Coe Salzgeber) writes:
>woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) said...
>>   As far as I know, guitars & books are all fine. However, I believe
>>the chair sustained some property damage! It may never be the same
>>again! Ha ha ha!
>
>Hmmph!  I'm intentionally keeping quiet on this one, and will vehemently
>deny anything anyone says about a chair, a heater, or... oh, never mind.

   "Or..."? You mean there's *more*?

   I'm getting to be quite predictable here in the Department...friends
walk by, see me logged on, and ask "New York or California?".

   ...ie. "Which are you talking to?". 8->

Joe, manfully resisting running up another $500 phone bill. But only just.

  / Joe Woodhouse        / I'm just a sweet bisexual...   / Hello, there.
 / Latrobe University   /    (think - Rocky Horror)      / Threesomes are fun.
/ Melbourne, Australia / Music. Magic. Mathematics. Me. / I like cats! (miaow!)
From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bisexual Centrist Alliance
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:51:27
Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
	<1992Aug25.230223.26984@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <iw.714792462@tosser>
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: iw@tosser.Rational.COM's message of 26 Aug 92 01:27:42 GMT

In article <iw.714792462@tosser> iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White) writes:
>I would certainly be interested to see it discussed more here.
>Does anybody else have any information.

I'd be interested to see more discussion as well.  I think this
("duogamy") is a pretty bizarre idea, but it makes for an interesting
picture.  I get involved with man A and woman A.  Then man A gets
involved with man B (assuming all partners are "duogamous") while woman
A gets involved with man C, etc.  One long zig-zag of partners.
Polyamory and threesomes seem much simpler to me...*smile*.

>Muffy if you do write Roby Margolis please let us know what she says.

I don't plan to, but maybe someone will.  I have enough trouble keeping
up with email, much less physical mail...*grin*.

Muffy
--

Muffy Barkocy | muffy@mica.berkeley.edu | wi.4636@wizvax.methuen.ma.us
~Little round planet/in a big universe/sometimes it looks blessed/
 sometimes it looks cursed/Depends on what you look at, obviously/
 But even more it depends on the way that you see~ - Bruce Cockburn
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Sexual Harassment (was Re: Michigan Wom*n's Music Festival)
From: h431@quads.uchicago.edu (heather e blair)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:41:48 GMT
Reply-To: h431@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

>In article <iw.715012766@tosser> iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Sults) writes:
>
>>One of the things I value most about womens space, is that I can get
>>glammed up as much as I want, as sexily as I want, and I know I won`t
>>get harassed.  OK so a few butches may swagger at me ...  but thats the
>>general idea anyway.
>>
>>Iseult - feeling sure that this is a very politically incorrect reason
>>	 for liking womens space.

Yes!  Isn't it grand?  



-- 

- Heather Blair       h431@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A de-muffinning, and a coming out
From: matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:29:32 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <awlpbr9p@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.105845.1@oread.cc.ukans.edu> matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> 
> Matt! you're back! <hug> <smooch> <nibble> <nibble> <lick> <hug> <smooch>
> Good to see you again...
	Kay, darling!  You didn't get to see my "Matt Chatterly
Returns" post?  Well, I'd be happy to repeat it...in cyber-person....
<kiss> <hug> <smooch> <nibble> <nibble>...(repeat until sated)

> Crisco? somebody mention Crisco?  Ah.  I see.  Well, all Steven has to do
> is wait till I reappear on Furry, and he can try all he likes :)
	Darling, you mean you didn't hear?  Oh, I decided that we'd
try different things this week, and I just thought of you!  Where's
the butter...or need I ask? :)

> Just wait till I've got you harnessed to my Iris, denims razored away
> from your legs, body coated with sweat and beer... Oh? not *that* sort
> of dungeon?  Aww...
	O.K.--what's your Iris?  When did you get this?  <sniff>
Didn't show me!  And hey!  Those were my favorite denim jeans...wait a
minute!  
<kiss>
	That's perfect for my outfit for Halloween!  Oh, Kay, you're
good at reading my mind!  But no beer on this body--sweat yes, but if
you want a good alcoholic beverage on me, I happen to have a case of
champagne in my locker over here in my corner of the net.room.  Go
ahead...pour away!  (and if you don't like the taste, I'm sure we
could find something better! :)
					--Matt
-- 
Matt Chatterly             | "How'd you get hand lotion all the way up there?"
(A blatant pseudonym...)   | "I told you I spilled it...."
Matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu |		--from _Young Lady Chatterly_
From: fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Assorted ramblings (long)
Date: 23 Aug 92 13:56:50 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>	<Yawn>  I'm bored....
> . . .
>	And now I get cynical--or is it critical?  I mean, I think
>we've gotten very serious here at soc.bi.  
> . . .	
>       Are we being playful?  Am I just not tapping into the articles
>that have a "serious" heading and are masking the fun "inside," as it
>were?  Yes, and no.  Some of the posts deal with people I've never
>met, magazines I have no access to...or topics that I've never had to
>deal with...or have put aside in my quest for fun.

 I agree with you partially; the tone in soc.bi seems less, I dunno,
bouncy than it did when I first posted. The only thing that does
occurr to me is that, after all, it is no longer in term time. Now, I
appreciate that the majority of people who post during terms are still
posting now; but I suspect that, when the new term starts and a fresh
crop of new posters arrive, things'll liven up again.. 

 Just my opinion, at least. 

> . . . My
>life is becoming more and more complicated, and holding onto the ideas
>I once had seems to be more of a burden than a blessing....

 *hugs*, *snuggles*, and other cheering things..

 -- Fenthe
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: hot tubs (was Re: The War Between Us (Long))
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:41:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug25.001947.19248@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> pclary@carrot.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
+woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) wrote...
+>   Ellen, shall we try for seven?
+
+Me thinks that could be arranged.  But we'll need your assistance.

Rub a dub rub, six bi's in a tub, one more makes seven, could be
heaven.

What can I say, it's late and I've tried to go through some 300
posts. Went to Las Vegas, what a wasted place.
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: slc@rabbit.inesc.pt (Sergio Lopes de Carvalho)
Subject: REF: Scaned photos
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, LISBOA. PORTUGAL.
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:25:02 GMT


Hi there 

Were can i find the gifs of that photos??? can someone email me or
give me the number of the FTP site where i can find them???
Thankx.

Sergio.
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From: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Sexual Harassment --- book details
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:51:01 GMT
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin

In a previous article I mentioned a book called "Sexual Harassment." I
rang up my friend who I've lent it to and got the following information
about it.

Title: Sexual Harassment
Editors: Amber Sumrall and Dana Taylor
Publishers: The Crossing Press, P.O. Box 1048, Freedom, CA 95019, USA
Year: 1992
ISBN: 0-89594-544-5

I forgot to ask how much it cost. I *think* I paid about 9 UK pounds for
it and that it would probably cost about US $12.


Ciaran.
-- 
Ciaran McHale                                                             ----
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.       \bi/
Telephone: +353-1-7021539 FAX: +353-1-772204 email: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie \/