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From: chico@athena.mit.edu (Thomas A Weston)
Subject: Re : PSU QB
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:26:59 GMT

(Not sure if it posted the first time)

Terribly sorry for the mistake.  My mother told me that that was what happened. 
Evidentally she misunderstood Bill Zinfer and George Paterno.  That's not unusual.

But I detect something sinister here.  Carl, you're getting your PHD in math at
berkeley.  My mother was an English major at Berkeley.  Nothing sinister yet. 
BUT, she is currently listed by the MAA as a professional mathematician
(actually, she's a psychologist, but they think she's a mathematician).  So what
we have is two Berkeley math types trying to embarrass an MIT math major.  In
fact, I think I have uncovered a scheme to sabotage the entire newsgroup by
planting false information and then flaming the innocent people who posted it. 

Please help me stop this before its too late.

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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: Pitt-WVU Tickets Available
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:11:56 GMT

In article <5749@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> hpb@hpb.cis.bozo.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg) writes:
> 
>    For the first time in years, Pitt-WVU is not yet a sellout.  For many
> reasons (low team expectations, Pittsburgh newspaper strike), there's

Harry, you're an idiot. (Obligatory introductory between
2 mud slingers).

Low expectations of the team, or by the team?  Hell, I even picked
them for 8-4.  Meanwhile, I'm joining WVU supporter Jeff Singleton
in looking for a bridge to jump off.  Colgate might just push me in.
Colgate?  I'm worried about Colgate?  Yes.

I've got my tickets for next week's RU/Pitt game.  Are you
motoring up or couch potato(e)ing?


CURRENT STANDINGS IN THE HB VS.BD DRY T-SHIRT CONTEST:

Harry Bloomberg (and Pitt):    1-0-0
Bob Dieckmann (and Rutgers):   0-1-0



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From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Keywords: nn
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:00:29 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

>>Let's swap Tulsa for Missouri while we're at it.
>
>NO!
>
>Hoops, hoops, hoops!
>
>Plus, their football team makes a pretty good doormat. (Had to work in some
>football into this post.)
>-- 
Did anyone out there watch the HSE halftime show of the A&M-Tulsa game?
They had the Tulsa AD for an interview, and he laid down lots of juice.
He indicated that there will quite possibly be some re-structuring of 
the major conferences yet to come, probably after the '93 season.  He
cites the CFA negotiations that begin in '94 as the biggest factor that
will cause conference re-alignments.  He seemed to be licking his chops
about joining the SWC.  Tulsa has added Houston, Baylor, Tech, A&M, SMU
to their schedule.  I think he is just waiting for Rice or SMU to drop
from Division IA.  Of course, he did allude to some possible re-alignment
between the SWC and Big 8, so the SWC he wants to enter may not be the
SWC that is here at the moment.  More power to him, I wish more AD's 
were open about the events that are going on that affect us all..

cmuck
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From: KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu
Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAL??!!
Organization: Kamchatka Charlie
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 02:56:12 GMT

>In article <1992Sep14.162953.2023@news.acns.nwu.edu>, fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
(Eric West) writes:

>|> This Purdue/Cal result is more distressing to Northwestern students (those
>|> that actually follow football AND root for our team) than our own 49-0
>|> trouncing this week by Boston College, because Purdue was thought to be one
>|> of the teams that our team could beat this year.  My last hope is that
>|> California is as overrated now as Illinois was when our team beat them last
>|> year...
>|> 
>|> ecw
>|> fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
>|> "Victory is never sweeter than when it occurs at Northwestern."
>|> GO CATS!!!
     Well, you still got Michigan State...B+\  [or B+) for you]

Kamchatka Charlie          KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu
From: glane@athena.qualcomm.com (George Lane)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:06:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: qualcomm.1992Sep14.170649.21438
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

lein@base.ctt.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322) writes:

>IMHO Faulk is a great back but I would like to see him against a top
>10 defense (not a WAC defense that starts to arm tackle mid-way through
>the third Quarter).

Obviously, you missed his 158 yards against Miami last year.

George L
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal vs. Purdue (was: Weekly top 25)
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:14:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <19476@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
>
>I can't see Cal winning by less than 20 at Purdue.  Purdue is better
>than they have been, but that's like saying George Bush is getting
>better on environmental policy.
>
>My prediction:  Cal 31 Purdue 10
>
>sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:

  ...and that coming from a Boilermaker! :-)


  Doug
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From: king@meaddata.com (Mike King)
Subject: Re: Jamal Faulkner stipped of scholarship
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:59:52 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep6.000507.4627@asuvax.eas.asu.edu>, kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) writes:
|> 
|>      Just heard on the news that Jamal Faulkner has
|> been stripped of his scholarship and "invited" to
|> transfer to another school for allegedly violating
|> his probation again last night by striking his
|> girlfriend during an argument and preventing her
|> from leaving the room.  She called police.
|> 
This guy has been behind the eight ball long before he arrived at ASU.
Originally he was recruited by Pitt, but was denied entrance because
he failed to graduate.  Looks like he really screwed now.

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From: atchison@frankenstein.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Robert Smith/OSU's crushing of Louisville
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:06:54 GMT

In article <19447@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
>
>So, what's the status on Robert Smith's ribs?

Non-displaced crack of the 11th right rib.  Doubtful for Bowling Green.
Questionable for Syracuse.  Expected to be ok (with pain) for Big Ten.

>Why did Cooper only open up the offense after Smith was out?

Huh?  Flanker reverse for 50 yard TD; Smith shifting into wideout position; 
14 passes before injury to Smith, 6 after; What's the line of reasoning behind
this question?

>sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:


GO BUCKS!!!
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From: clammemb@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (matt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Notre Dame to Big Ten? (was: "Re: tu rumor")
Date: 12 Sep 92 03:43:39 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Purdue has the Big Ten symbol displayed on each side of the court.

It`s not very big though.
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From: alc@netcom.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Re: Marsee Computer Rankings and Predictions for 9/12/92
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 14:42:05 GMT
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Reply-To: stassen@alc.com
Distribution: na

DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS writes:
> this would be a very dull newsgroup if people are not allowed to comment
> on other peoples post [...]

I don't think that was Bill's point.  It is my opinion (and maybe what
Bill was getting at as well), that most of the people who whine about
the power rating systems: 1) have never tried to run one themselves,
and 2) probably can't out-predict the very system that they're complaining
about.

> And for this "If you can do better why don't you?" thing, anyone can
> write a program to say which is the best team, by criteria such as;  [...]

Before you complain about the basis for the system (not even knowing
what it is), why don't you demonstrate at least that your own ability
to predict is superior to the program's?  Darryl's system finished
ahead of more than half of the human entrants in last year's college
pool.
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From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: tu rumor
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:33:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.000830.25665@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.143601.13198@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>>
>>semper fi,
>
>  Pardon my ignorance. I've seen "semper fi" often, on bumper stickers and 
>other places, and often there is a Marine Corps bumper sticker along with it.
>What does "semper fi"  stand for ?  

Semper fidelis, Latin for "always loyal", is the motto of the U.S.
Marine Corps.

Good thing you didn't bother asking Jammer Jim himself; he "just like
the way it sounds".
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From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Texas-Syracuse.   Good game, but..  :-(
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:59:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <BuJzs2.CA6@rice.edu> retrac@vesuvius.cs.rice.edu (John Carter) writes:
>In article <2AB3FEAA.29634@news.service.uci.edu> jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
>>
>>  Sigh..racuse 31  -  Texas 21.  Oh well..  What can I say ?
>>
>>  UT loses another game that they could have won. So, what's new ?...
>>
>>  Did any of you think that Syracuse pushing the ball in from 2 yards
>>  with 7 seconds to go with a lead already, and with Texas having no
>>  time-outs left, was a little (not much, though..) unclassy ?..
>
>It did seem a little sleazy, but you know that the Syracuse coach was
>thinking about his team's national ranking, knowing that most of the voters
>just look at the final score, so you can't blame him much.
>

Syracuse must be making sleaziness a habit. They did the same thing against
Ohioi State last year in their bowl game.  Very rude if you ask me.  I
think that they like to rub it in.  All I can say is that I hope Cooper 
does the same when we beat them next weekend.

Cal was cocky coming into Purdue, and look what they got...

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Subject: Re: Cal vs. Purdue (was: Weekly top 25)
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 09:47:09 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
 <19456@ector.cs.purdue.edu> <Bu9pD9.8Cz.1@cs.cmu.edu> <randall.715995473@seashore>
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Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <randall.715995473@seashore>, randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>After Saturday's game, the only Cal question mark is the pass defense.
>They may give up points to a good passing team like Kansas.  But
>neither Kansas nor Purdue have the team speed, size, offense
>coaching skill, or depth of the Bears.  Neither team will be able
>to run on Cal, which will mean forced passes i.e. interceptions.
>Cal will beat Purdue 31-19 and Kansas 33-24.  You heard it here first. 
>
And I expect a posting commending either(both?) teams that beat
Cal.  I'm sure you'll let us know if you're right anyway.
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From: lein@base.base.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322)
Subject: Meadowlands
Reply-To: lein@base.base.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322)
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:05:31 GMT

I've been hearing rumers that the Meadowlands is considering hosting
regular season games with big named teams.  So far there have been informal
talks regarding a Notre Dame - Miami matchup and Penn State - Alabama    
matchup.

Blue White Illustrated reported that PSU's athletic director Jim Tarman
approached Syracuse to see if they were willing to play a two game series
in the Meadowlands.  Syracuse declined noting that they didn't want to
give up a home game.  


John L
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Robert Smith/OSU's crushing of Louisville
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:04:47 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <19447@ector.cs.purdue.edu>, sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
> 
> So, what's the status on Robert Smith's ribs?
> 
> Why did Cooper only open up the offense after Smith was out?

	I thought he kind of clamped up a bit.

	Smith is out for the BG game, at least.

	I don't look for it to hurt us, though.  If he's out against Syracuse,
it'll make a close game into a big loss.

	(Yes, I'm sticking with my 10-2 forecast :)

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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: no on UTexas to Big 10
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:23:58 GMT

In article <JEFF.92Sep9224610@neuron.cs.tamu.edu> jeff@neuron.cs.tamu.edu (Jeff Goldberg) writes:

   >I wasted most of a half hour trying to confirm or not the big rumor that
   >U. Texas has decided or agreed to move to the Big 10 conference.  On
   >channel 36 (Austin) sports, they covered the Syracuse game, no mention
   >of any Big 10 situation.  The same lack of such news on Houston, College
   >Station sports.  My conclusion is that although this is likely to happen
   >sometime, it is apparently nothing more than a false report at this time.
 
I hope you're right.  The big 10, little 1 doesn't need another team
right now.  They couldn't even play every team *before* P.S.U. joined.
I don't see the Big 10 letting in another team unless they get rid of
Northwestern.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Subject: Re: What happened to the Huskies?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:50:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.225905.19854@u.washington.edu> dokken@u.washington.edu writes:
>First, I have a question.
>Does anybody know how many Washington players made the NFL this year?
>
>Here's what I know:
>Emtman - Indy
>Hall - SF
>Rodgers - Seattle
>Fraley - Cut by Seattle
>Rongen?(is that right)- Cut by Seattle
>
>Can someone fill in the blanks?
>Orlando McKay ???

   He was drafted by the Packers and put on injured reserve with an ankle
   injury.

   ---salty

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:46:42 CDT

>In article <1992Sep11.010109.22182@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR)) writes:
>
>   As I watch tonight's game (9/10) between San Diego St. and BYU, I
>   see that the BYU fans are calling their team the most hated in America.
>   Huh?? I can think of 10 or more teams that I hate more than BYU. Just
>   what is BYU thinking??? Anyone from BYU care to comment???
>
>
In article <RHOUSTON.92Sep11074928@peoa.glacier.sim.es.com> rhouston@glacier.sim.es.com (Richard Houstan) writes:

> In SI last week there was a ridiculous article claiming that BYU is the
> most hated team in the country, the fans were just picking up on that.
> The article claimed most hated in the nation, but all the "I just hate
> them" quotes were from players and coaches in the WAC. I was surprised
> when no one mentioned it on the net before, I would have thought the
> article would really piss off the miami fans. They are proud of being the
> "TRUE" most hated team in the nation aren't they?

Actually, I was surprised Notre Dame (aka ND or OBU) was not mentioned.  I
think the guy that wrote the article must like them, or there is some
conspiracy between ND and Sports Illustrated.  I'm not trying to *really*
offend Irish fans here (that's 'Arsh in the south), but judging by the
majority of posts on the net, Notre Dame is one of the most hated teams
here, for many of the same things attributed to BYU in the article.
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From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Re: Football as a Castration Complex
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:04:24 GMT

y
>Heard on the radio this AM that coach Jackie Sherrill of Mississippi State had
>a bull castrated in front of his team before the Texas Longhorns game. He
>justified this stunt by saying (and I paraphrase): It was motivational and
>educational. Most of the team didn't know what a steer was.

Well, that is supposed to be educational first.......  :-)

>I hope MSU never plays Indiana. Sherrill: "Okay, what's a Hoosier? You don't
>know? Get me a Hoosier and a knife!"

Maybe Jackie should have found a Bengal Tiger last monday.


David

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From: steve@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu ()
Subject: Re: Another HS update - Tulsa Edison SHATTERS RECORD
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:38:45 GMT
Reply-To: steve@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu ()
Organization: Geosciences Computing Network/University of Oklahoma
Keywords: tulsa edison high school

You said it sid!!!     Try another sig  

 I quess thats why the call Edison the Green Weenies!!!!!  

  Give em Hale !
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:18:06 GMT
	<1992Sep14.012304.4599@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Sep14.012304.4599@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
}} 
}} Yea right.  Now it's second and ten, instead of second and three.  Two more 
}} downs and Michigan has the ball with three timeouts left.  Come on, people.  I 
}} have no problem with what Holtz did.  I DO have a problem with the people who
}} booed the team.  Get a life.  They played their butts off, especially the
}} defense.

I said, I don't have any problem with Holtz did either, *if he'll just
admit he wasn't trying to win.*  He was obviously playing not to lose
(i.e., for the tie at the time).  No problem.  But to try and sell
that load of hooey about looking at coverages while running the ball
is garbage.

I repeat:

o Notre Dame isn't going to see what kind of pass coverage Michigan is
  in until they line up in a passing formation.

o Calling two running plays in a row doesn't jibe with wanting to see
  coverages.

}} Who do you coach for, by the way??

No one.  Arguments ad hominem don't matter much.

}} Bettis almost broke through with a tremendous gainer.  Would you have been
}} happy then?  A first down was achieved on the second running play.
}} Unfortunately, the penalty called it back.  If there wasn't the penalty, there
}} were 30 seconds on the clock.  First down.  I wonder what could've happened?

Yeah, that great first down.  They still had > 40 yards to go to get
to reasonable field goal range, and 30 seconds in which to do it.  (At
least I thought the interception of Grbac took place on about the ND
20).

}} Stop second guessing Lou.  He is there for a reason.  He didn't play to tie, he
}} played not to lose.  The players didn't deserve to lose.

Fine.  No problem.  But he should have the cajones to admit it.

}} Again, who do YOU coach for??  Have your scenarios worked??? ;)

Again, no one, at least not in football.  But my soccer coaching
doesn't have much bearing here :-)

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
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                      Beef:  Real food for a dead planet.