HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: marc@r-node.pci.on.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: failed connections...
Organization: R-node Public Access Unix - 1 416 249 5366
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:46:56 GMT

Hi...

	Can someone tell me what would cause:

uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:35:53.48 63136) Receiving pci/X./X.intid1b0e
uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:35:56.52 63136) Receiving pci/D./D.inti1b0f339
uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:36:29.59 63136) Receiving pci/X./X.intid1b0f
uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:36:33.23 63136) Receiving pci/D./D.inti1b106a1
uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:36:36.52 63136) DEBUG: fgprocess_data: Bad checksum: header 0x3b70, data 0xb150
uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:36:36.54 63136) DEBUG: fgprocess_data: Got packet 7; expected 6
uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:36:36.57 63136) DEBUG: fgprocess_data: Got packet 0; expected 6
uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:36:41.17 63136) DEBUG: fgprocess_data: Bad header: K 2 TT 2 XOR byte 146 calc 185
uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:36:41.22 63136) DEBUG: fgprocess_data: Got packet 2; expected 1
uucico pci news (1993-01-25 12:36:41.24 63136) DEBUG: fgprocess_data: Got packet 3; expected 1

	I am using Taylor UUCP under Linux with a Telebit Worldblazer.  I am 
connecting to pci in PEP mode...and getting fantastic transfer rates (>1600cps)
for files of >50k

	my theory: bad batch of line noise

thanks...

marc
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Xref: sparky tor.uucp:66 can.uucp:274 ont.uucp:391
From: dgilbert@jaywon.pci.on.ca (dgilbert)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 12:55:48 GMT
Organization: TheHd:s/.organization
Newsgroups: tor.uucp,can.uucp,ont.uucp
Subject: Re: Trade Domain Name for Partial Duplicate Feed
 <DGILBERT.93Jan24111436@jaywon.pci.on.ca>
Distribution: ont


	(I don't think this got out, so I'm reposting it).

	I would like to get a partial duplicate feed of some groups in
comp and some groups in alt to improve reliability.  In trade, I can
offer someone a Domain Name.  However, if someone doesn't need a
Domain Name, and will still feed me, I'll accept that too.

	As a side note, I'm in Toronto, and am willing to feed people.

Dave.

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Newsgroups: tor.general
From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: NEED number of real Police BBS!!!
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:07:26 GMT


   Hello! 

  I need the number of the police BBS in Toronto that is run by actual police
and is open to the public. I used to call it but I lost the number a while
ago. It MAY be called Metro Toronto Police BBS, but I'm not sure, I think
there is one that is not run by the police but has police in the name.


                                                                     Thanks!
                                                                      Adam

adam@zooid.guild.org
From: drk@elegant.com (David King)
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Cat house
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:48:55 GMT
Distribution: tor
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc.


Ok, so the subject line's a bit misleading... I'm looking for
home for a stray that purred it's way into my life. It's a 
long hair, ginger coloured and I believe female although
with that fluffy bum it's hard to say without a good root
around. I'd guess it's four years old or so.

It's a wonderful cat that purrs so much my wife has named it
Happy. We'd keep it but we're both too allergic. Right now
the poor thing is living outside. The neighbours think it
should go to the Humane Society but it's hard to say which
is worse...living outside or inside in a cage. They were
going to take it in today but we couldn't do it. 

So if you know anyone who can give her a home please call.
362-9772 during the day or 360-8731 in the evening.

By the way, my brother is a vet so I'll get her her shots
so there's no upfront costs.
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Commercial postings poll (was: Reduced long distance rates!!)
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:21:29 GMT

> > ... Commercial postings are considered unacceptable.
> 
> This cannot be correct as a blanket statement. [Examples cited.]

We're all familiar with the regular postings in news.announce.newusers, right?
From "Rules for posting to Usenet":

| Announcement of professional products or services on Usenet is allowed;
| however, since someone else is paying the phone bills for this, it is
| important that it be of overall benefit to Usenet.  Post to the
| appropriate newsgroup -- comp.newprod -- never to a general purpose
| newsgroup such as "misc.misc".  Clearly mark your article as a product
| announcement in the subject.  Never repeat these -- one article per
| product at the most; preferably group everything into one article.
| Advertising hype is especially frowned upon -- stick to technical
| facts.  Obnoxious or inappropriate announcements or articles violating
| this policy will generally be rejected.  This policy is, of course,
| subject to change if it becomes a problem.
 
I see no reason why regional newsgroups like tor.general should be any
different from the net-wide groups in this respect.  A posting such as
the one under discussion *should*, I think, be unwelcome here; though
one dealing with the same material and presenting it in matter-of-fact
fashion, would, I think, be welcome to be posted *once*.  (This doesn't
mean once to tor.general, then once to ont.general, etc., of course.
Actually, I don't think it's *ever* appropriate for the same material
to appear in both newsgroups, whether by cross-posting or otherwise.)

The easiest way to settle this for now seems to be to run a little poll.
Do you think that the above guidelines, allowing limited commercial
postings, are about right, or should they be varied, and if so which way?
Please reply by *email* to msb@sq.com (also reachable as msb@sq.sq.com,
msb%sq.com@yonge.csri.utoronto.ca, ...!utzoo!sq!msb, and as a last resort,
msb@lsuc.on.ca).  Please change the *Subject* line of your message to one of:

Subject: Poll: no change wanted on commercial postings in tor.general
Subject: Poll: loosen guidelines on commercial postings in tor.general
Subject: Poll: tighten guidelines on commercial postings in tor.general

Only the Subject line will be read.  Mail retaining the Subject line of
this article will be ignored -- I don't want to debate, just to poll.

I'm posting this early Friday afternoon, January 22.  sq is going down
this evening for major software changes, so it may be down for some time
into the weekend if the task proves more difficult than expected, but
it will surely be up early next week.  Mail for me should be held, but
if it does time out, please resend it.  I'll post a count of responses
on or about Tuesday, January 26.
-- 
Mark Brader		"I conducted a Usenet poll ... on this subject ...
Toronto			 Laura is single.  By a 2-1 margin."  -- Ken Perlow
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com

This article is in the public domain.
Newsgroups: tor.general,ont.events,ut.general
From: ndallen@r-node.pci.on.ca (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Demonstration about NAFTA, Saturday, January 23, at Michael Wilson's constituency office
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:10:55 GMT
Distribution: tor

(transcribed from a flyer I got in the mail yesterday)

 Message to Michael
 ------------------
 Protest to win hearings in Toronto on the
 North American Free Trade Agreement
 -----
 Saturday, January 23rd, 11 a.m. till 1 p.m.
 in front of
 Michael Wilson's Constituency Office
 952 Royal York Road
 (at the Royal York Subway Station)
 ---
 The Mulroney government has refused to hold Parliamentary Committee hearings
on NAFTA in Metro Toronto. They'll listen to the trans-national corporations,
but refuse to let the people of Metro speak on the issue of NAFTA - an
agreement that has been called "an economic constitution for Canada".
 Canadians must demand that full public hearings be held in every major centre
across Canada before Parliament debates NAFTA.
 On January 23rd, protest demonstrations are being organized in communities
throughout Ontario by local coalitions and networks which oppose NAFTA.

 Join us and add your voice in protest.

  Organized by the Metro Network for Social Justice
  and the Ontario Coalition for Social Justice.

(end of transcription from flyer)
-- 
Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario    ndallen@r-node.pci.on.ca
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: motani@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Agar Agar?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:31:38 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17c by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: motani@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <zen00215930022182829@hophead> zen@hophead (Nick Zentena) writes:
>        Does anybody know of a store that sells Agar Agar?
>        Supposedly used in Chinese cooking?
>        Thanks
>        Nick

You should be able to find agar in most chinese grocery stores. Try in chinatown. 
You should also be able to find it in health food stores. You can buy agar in two
forms: powder and solid. The solid form looks like clear pasta and has to be boiled
and melted in water or milk. You may also be able to find it in some Indian
grocery stores (try Gerrard Street).

________________________________________________________________________________
Muiz Motani
IBM Canada Lab                  motani@vnet.ibm.com
Distributed System Products
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: chrisb@seachg.uucp (Chris Blask)
Subject: Re: Reduced long distance rates!!
Reply-To: chrisb@seachg.UUCP (Chris Blask)
Organization: Sea Change Corporation, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:21:37 GMT

In article <2B5E1132.663C@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>>Are you arguing that the net should reverse
>>its collective stand on the issue?
>
>There is no such collective stand. I, for one, welcome descreet
>announcements of products and other such (obviously commercial) postings.
>It's one of the reasons can.newprod was created. Low traffic, to be
>sure :-), but that's what it's there for.

Good point (I think ;^0>).  I was _immediately_ turned off by this typical
bloody Hard Sell on a general newsgroup, and agreed heartily with Bruce for
flaming the person who posted it.  At the same time, a post today displayed
a list of upcoming shows at Cinisphere, and not only did it not bother me,
I saved it for future reference.  I think the difference is common sense.
I would be plenty interested in a list of new LD carriers, or even an
announcement by the carrier that they are open for business, but it is
ENTIRELY inappropriate to use this space as a gaudy, annoying bill board
for direct personal gain.  It stinks to high heaven before you even think
about it, which means (at the very least), it's lousy salesmanship.

I'm a salesman.  Sometimes I'll see someone who might need our services,
and I'll email that person some brief information, and tell them that if
it sounds interesting they can reply and I'll fill them in.  Even doing
that it's best to be careful; no one is going to like you if you spend your
time stuffing garbage in everyone's mailbox.

I think quite highly of this forum, and of its potential in the future.
The average person I've seen shouting 'net police' is sticking to the
absolute freedom of speech line, which is a crock.  The signal/noise ratio
will destroy this forum if it is not handled reasonably and fairly.  If you
just _have_ to say something, say it in the right newsgroup - there's
something for everybody.

-chris blask
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: georgen@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (G. Ng)
Subject: Re: Source for "Cramolin" in TO?
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Distribution: tor
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:53:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.232010.1728@chance.gts.org> john@chance.gts.org (John R MacMillan) writes:
>Someone on the net has recommended a product called "Cramolin", an
>electrical contact cleaner.  Apparently, it's like Tweek, an
>contact cleaner sold in the audio market, but cheaper.  Anyway, I've
>called a couple of places, and they've never heard of it.
>
>Anyone know where in Toronto I could purchase this stuff?  I'd rather
>not lay out the extra money for Tweek if I can help it.

I was able to purchase Stabilant-22 (aka Tweek) from Ring Audio on
Queen St. W. awhile back.  I'm not sure whether Ring is still in business.
You could check the audio/video/electronics shops for these products.
-- 
george ng
univ. of toronto undergraduate
molecular plant biology/botany
Newsgroups: tor.general,can.general,sci.math
From: rrwood@canrem.com (Roy Wood)
Subject: Help me find a "Math class is tough" Barbie
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:48:25 GMT

Now that Mattel has pulled the "Math class is tough" Barbie, it's pretty much
impossible to get one, but I'd still like to.  I don't suppose that anyone
out there has one that they'd be willing to part with?  Or perhaps you
know of somewhere that I can get one?

-Roy
Newsgroups: tor.general,ut.dcs.general
From: davet@dgp.toronto.edu (Dave Tonnesen)
Subject: part-time job available
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: ut
Date: 19 Jan 93 19:22:55 GMT

Netcom Technologies is looking for someone to work part-time sales
position in their store on Queen St. West (between Spadina and
Bathurst).  They are willing to hire a student, undergraduate or
graduate, with knowledge of personal computers.

Contact Paul Lee at (416) 359-1000, or stop by the store located 
at 444 Queen St. West.

Please contact them directly.  
My only reason for posting this is as a friend.

- Dave Tonnesen
-- 

 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  David Tonnesen    University of Toronto    davet@dgp.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: David Mason <vid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Prisoners of Gravity
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Distribution: tor
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:43:16 GMT

darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain) writes:
>Anyone catch POG this week?  Cliff Stoll was on for a short bit.  The
>best interview was with Douglas Adams however.  He was talking about
>how badly designed his computer in "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe"
>series of books was designed.  He remarked:
>
>             "It was so clunky and clumsy it might
>              have been designed by Microsoft."

Seeing how Adams is plainly, from his frequent references in his Holisitic
Detective book, a Macintosh fanatic, I would call him a useful source of
anecdotes but not exactly a source of unbiased information.




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vid@zooid.guild.org             -->> ZOOiD Public Access Usenet 416 322-7876
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Result of commercial postings poll (was: Reduced long distance rates!!)
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 06:27:04 GMT

I asked people to vote on one of these options:

> Subject: Poll: no change wanted on commercial postings in tor.general
> Subject: Poll: loosen guidelines on commercial postings in tor.general
> Subject: Poll: tighten guidelines on commercial postings in tor.general

I received 4 votes for "no change" and 1 for "tighten".  I could have
sworn there was also 1 vote for "loosen", making it perfectly symmetrical,
but if there was I must have accidentally deleted it.

In any case "no change" has a clear majority.
-- 
Mark Brader		"I conducted a Usenet poll ... on this subject ...
Toronto			 Laura is single.  By a 2-1 margin."  -- Ken Perlow
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com

This article is in the public domain.
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: kruus@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Kaia Kruus)
Subject: Free young dog to good home
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Distribution: tor
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:49:33 GMT


Free dog to a good home

2 year old cocker spaniel springer
(small dog with fluffy ears and paws,
jumps around runs in circles with
tongue lolling out of mouth, loves
people and kids)

Giving her away because of allergies.
Call 466-0235 any time, pls leave message
 if necessary.
-phoning is better than email.




-- 

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  r     - 
   u   -  Kaia Kruus                                           
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: john@chance.gts.org (John R MacMillan)
Subject: Source for "Cramolin" in TO?
Organization: $HOME
Distribution: tor
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:20:10 GMT


Someone on the net has recommended a product called "Cramolin", an
electrical contact cleaner.  Apparently, it's like Tweek, an
contact cleaner sold in the audio market, but cheaper.  Anyway, I've
called a couple of places, and they've never heard of it.

Anyone know where in Toronto I could purchase this stuff?  I'd rather
not lay out the extra money for Tweek if I can help it.

Thanks.
Xref: sparky tor.general:1756 ut.general:448
Newsgroups: tor.general,ut.general
From: mike@csri.toronto.edu (Mike Ruicci)
Subject: guitar for sale
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: tor
Date: 20 Jan 93 17:21:15 GMT


FOR SALE:

1980 Fender Stratocaster guitar  -  black body, maple neck, very good condition
except for a few paint chips. Note that I have replaced the middle and rhythm
pickups with single coil Bartolini's and the lead pickup has been replaced 
with a double coil Seymour Duncan, so it's not a stock guitar. Also included
is the hard shell Fender case.

REASON FOR SELLING: It's time for something different!

ASKING: $450.00


If interested contact me via phone or email:
--------------------------------------------
home: 423-6683		email: mike@csri.toronto.edu
work: 978-5185

Newsgroups: tor.general
From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: the (newspaper) bbs
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: tor
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:29:15 EST

The University of Toronto's "the newspaper" (a newspaper of large
weekly circulation) has now started "the bbs"...

the bbs is dedicated to whoever wants to read "the newspaper"
online, discuss its contents, contribute, or, simply, enjoy the
electronic medium of BBSing...

And the number is........

              the newspaper bbs         
               (416) 593-1588     

Faraz Rabbani

... Ouch!!!  Got my floppy caught in my PKZipper.....  
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: chrisb@seachg.uucp (Chris Blask)
Subject: Re: Reduced long distance rates!!
Reply-To: chrisb@seachg.UUCP (Chris Blask)
Organization: Sea Change Corporation, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:45:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.033158.610@netcom.com> rudy@netcom.com (Rudy) writes:
>In article <1993Jan16.205814.28588@becker.GTS.ORG> bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan14.045223.2392@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs922177@ariel.yorku.ca (DANIEL T FARKAS) writes:
>>|Reduced long distance rates are now available through the ICS
>>|communications network.
>>	That was a commercial posting.  It's not
>>	an acceptable usage of these newsgroups.
>
>Oh no... here comes net.police
>
>Who died and appointed you Brad Templeton?

Yeah, he's got a point, though.  We could all use this space to hawk our
wares (or is that hawk a loogi?), but this is a non commercial forum and I
personally hear enough sales poop everywhere else.

-chris blask
From: David Mason <vid@zooid.guild.org>
Newsgroups: tor.general
Subject: Re: Reduced long distance rates!!
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:59:24 GMT
Organization: ZOOiD BBS

marc@r-node.pci.on.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.144556.21259@seachg.uucp> chrisb@seachg.UUCP (Chris Blask) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan19.033158.610@netcom.com> rudy@netcom.com (Rudy) writes:
>>>In article <1993Jan16.205814.28588@becker.GTS.ORG> bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) writes:
>>>>In article <1993Jan14.045223.2392@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs922177@ariel.yorku.ca (DANIEL T FARKAS) writes:
>>>>|Reduced long distance rates are now available through the ICS
>>>>|communications network.
>>>>	That was a commercial posting.  It's not
>>>>	an acceptable usage of these newsgroups.
>>>
>>>Oh no... here comes net.police
>>>
>>>Who died and appointed you Brad Templeton?
>>
>>Yeah, he's got a point, though.  We could all use this space to hawk our
>>wares (or is that hawk a loogi?), but this is a non commercial forum and I
>>personally hear enough sales poop everywhere else.
>>
>>-chris blask
>
>why is there no 'tor.commercial'?  or 'tor.ads'? or something like that.  
>then those that aren't interested can just unsubscribed...and then we also
>have someone to 'send' ppl who do want to post it.  then again, we might
>see price wars or something like that since ppl will be selling (commericial)
>similar wares, eh?
>

I think this is an excellant idea. Tor.forsale is for non-commercial postings
(and should stay that way), a tor.ads or something like that which allowed
vendors to tastefully advertise their products would be very welcome. Of
course it would be difficult to keep vendors from crossing the line to
tasteless, but then I guess we would have to let the market vote on their
style. Toronto is a large enough market that this should be a Toronto thing
rather than an Ontario thing. It would be nice to have a newsgroup of
net-aware businesses where people could find some competitive dealers. 

Of course the thing would be just as likely to turn into a giant flamewar (as
is this conversation).


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vid@zooid.guild.org             -->> ZOOiD Public Access Usenet 416 322-7876
Newsgroups: tor.general
From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Subject: IBM MVS manuals
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario
Distribution: tor
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:33:26 GMT


Like the biggies, I'm in the process of "downsizing",
so I have a LOT of IBM MVS & related manuals which
are currently in excess to my needs.


Many of these are internals docs as well as the more
usual stuff, so there's a wealth of information there
for those who have the need.


Best offer takes it, natch...


Cheers,
-- 
  ,u,	 Bruce Becker			Toronto, Ontario
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