From: floyd@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: employment in Alaska
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:06:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.153135.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsjfz@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.061635.11967@raven.alaska.edu>, floyd@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson) writes:
>> In article <1NHqVB2w165w@freds.cojones.com> system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke) writes:
>>>
>>>Anyone on the Elmendorf Internet sites reading this? I know you're out there,
>>>even if you can't confirm or deny it.
>> 
>> Don't know if anyone really cares, but it happens that I'm absolutely
>> positive that both the Army and AF bases in Anchorage and Fairbanks,
>> and the Army at Ft. Greely, have milnet access, which means they can
>> in fact access the Internet.
>> 
>> However...  here is the fun part.  I bet there aren't more than three
>> individuals (I don't know of even ONE anymore) who you could address
>> email to and expect that they would actually log into a computer and
>> read it.
>> 
>> And as far as usenet, not for a long time.  They don't know it exists.
>> 
>> Floyd
>
>The people at my Marine Reserve company (located aboard Elmendorf) do have
>Milnet and Internet access, but they tend to follow the use regulations rather
>closely.  Usnet isn't an official function, and so therefore not used.  They
>can send and recieve Internet e-mail however, and log on every day to do so. 
>At least as far as the Marine Corps is concerned, quite a bit of daily business
>is conducted via e-mail, mostly administrative tasks, etc.

Sorry for quoting so much, but I think the context makes a difference...

I'm very interested to hear what you said above.  I expect that
such use is going to increase considerably in the next 5 years or
so.  Primarily because autovohn and ddn are changing dramatically.
I'm not suprised to hear that a Marine Reserve company is ahead of
the AF...

>The first two numbers for Elmendorf AFB Internet/Milnet addresses
>are located in a big data base i found looking through the library
>files here on Acad3, but the data base didn't list any specific
>users (presumably an official user would know the complete
>address.) I don't know about Air Force use regulations or how
>strictly they are enforced, but i wouldn't hold my breath for any
>kind of discussion from military sites not specifically authorised
>to have outside contact.

Exactly.  The USAF is so strict as to in fact stifle authorised use
as well as unauthorised use.  I do know of one person who did manage
to find out how to read usenet via a milnet connection.  He has since
retired.  Bill says he knows of another, and I'm sure we are talking
about different people, so thats two...

Considering the number of 3b2-600g computers the military picked up,
I think there will come a time when we might see some sign that they
exist.  But for now it is just as was first mentioned above:  they
wouldn't dare confirm or deny it!

Floyd
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