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From: kastner@netcom.com (Rob Kastner)
Subject: Re: Robitussin question
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 10:13:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa


The ROBO high is almost like acid at first.  It takes an hour to come on
and the same feeling of little rushes start it off.  
Then I guess it changes a little.
Well see usually when I trip on A Im out at a club. But ROBO ive only
done in a home setting.  With robo I dont get nervous about anything
except that maybe Im crazy.  I have a total feeling of loss of reality
and that either Ive been like that forever or I will be.
I f I go out of the house I feel lost. like if I go to the car for something
I feel Ill forget what I was going there for or how to get back.
Walking is very difficult I going up or down stairs is hysterical.

Plain walls or the bathtub or sink get texture and color usually blue
like from a black light.
I was able to go up to a wall with my hands up like looking out a window
but it was a wall and I was able to see in/through it and see things just
like looking out a window.
It a very interesting high I just wish I could do more with it like
go out to clubs but I cant even leave the house.  Ive been experimenting
only on my self.  I want to see what happens when a few people are together
& doing robo but not many people trust taking a whole bottle of cough medicine
 just to get high.  
Im not afraid of it I dont think it will kill you.  I never felt like I
was going to die.  Just a few times i remember a slight loss of breath
just needing a relaxing kind of deep inhalation. 

Other than that it is hard to try and describe to others any kind of high.
You just cant express it in words.
Just try it once some time when you have a night to kill and you dont
feel like going out and you're just going to sit around and watch a movie
or something. 

Hope this might be a little descriptive anyways.


ROB
From: kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: is ephedrine a prescription only?
Date: 9 Apr 1992 16:49:25 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

In article <1992Apr8.230031.4907@willamette.edu> jduncan@willamette.edu (Jack Duncan) writes:
>
>is just straight ephedrine available over the counter?

It is in Kansas and Missouri....the only states I know about.   I assume
since it is available here then it must not be prohibited by federal.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: solo@world (solo)
Subject: Re: Kesey's back!
Followup-To: Re: Kesey's back!
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:34:00 GMT
Reply-To: solo@world
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne  FL


In article rcain@netcom.com, rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>Yeah, I was recalling the Stanford scene from ancient reading.  I thought
>for certain that Kerouac showed up there but...  No, I'm real sure it was
>mentioned in one of Kesey's recent books. The strange one with the red
>cover. You are right about Ginsberg.  There was a famous Ralph that was
>part of the scene though I think. Anybody remember what Ralph that might be?
                                                                                            ^^^^^
Would that be Ralph 'Sonny' Barger, president of the Oakland Hell's Angels,
as described in HST's _Hell's Angels_?

s.


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: Peter A. Cohen <peterco@eff.org>
Subject: Re: 120 minutes
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:56:38 GMT

Great video.  Weak tune.

- Peter
From: R.Bradley.Byrd@dartmouth.edu (R. Bradley Byrd)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Asset Forfeiture and You
Date: 5 Apr 92 17:20:41 GMT
 <+rljb2_.rcain@netcom.com>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

i know that this is a bit off the subject, but has anyone ever actually
gone to those gov't auctions where they sell confiscated drug goods (i
mean stuff seized under RICO, i suppose)?    are good deals possible?
is it actually worth the time or effort to attempt to attend one?
any thoughts on the subject?    i could use a car, you know...   ;>)

sorry to fray the thread...

brad
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From: dougm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Another democracy bites the dust
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:23:06 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

According to CNN at noon on Monday April 6, 1992, Pres. Alberto Fujumora of
Peru has suspended the Peruvian Congress, placed prominent opposition leaders
under arrest, and has suspended the constitution.  He was supported in his
takeover by the Peruvian military, who's tanks were to be seen in the streets
of the capitol.

Pres. Bush commented that the move is regrettable and a step backward.
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should they be considered patriots.  This is one nation under God."
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From: tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu (tom)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:35:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: genie.1992Apr16.193548.20681
Organization: The Lab Rats

In article <1992Apr14.013417.4649@ncsu.edu> dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

}Can anyone name one black leader who supports legalization besides
}Mayor Schomke? I asked this question about a year ago and no names 
}surfaced.

Dick Boddie. currently running for US Senate in California.

Walter Willliams. author of several books including _The State Against
Blacks_, and writer of "Guest Editorials" and syndicated columns in many
newspapers

Thomas Sowell. also an author.

i believe that the US Rep (from Chicago i think) who came out in favor
of re-legalization about a year and a half ago was black too.
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tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu           UDel: School of Life and Health Sciences

"Themes were useless; Destiny was here, and the foot pedals were bleeding."
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rizzojp@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Jon Rizzo)
Subject: Re: Any hempseed recipes out there?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:19:48 GMT

891034d@ace.acadiau.ca (PETER F. DEARMAN) writes:


>I've read that hemp seed is very nutritious.  So, does anyone know how to 
>make it edible or palatable?  I was thinking it could likely be turned into 
>tofu type mash or something.  Also, how does one efficiently harvest the 
>seeds as a food crop, and are there varieties available that have a high 
>seed yield?

>--Peter Dearman--

I don't know about eating them, but I know smoking them causes sterility
over an extended period.

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Clarkson University		    |             OR		       |
From: kitsch@milton.u.washington.edu (Ted Fitch)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Isolation Tanks
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:47:00 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr16.091546.17392@reed.edu> jdugger@gluttony.reed.edu (Jay Dugger) writes:
>
>Can anyone point me in the direction of some plans for an isolation tank?
>Thanks.
>
>Jay Dugger
>jdugger@reed.edu
How about some plans for some _sensory deprivation_ tanks.
Does anyone know of anywhere in Seattle (or closeby) where they
have them for the public to try?

Thanks, Ted
From: ppennane@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Petrus Pennanen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Magic Myceliums
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:48:18 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <#jxjl!h.rcain@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>I don't know the right terms.  Would you buy 5 or 6 genotypes?

FMRC sells 24 different strains of Psilocybe mushrooms and there must
be a lot more in the nature, so I think there are many different genotypes
(I'm not familiar with mushroom genetics either).

>: FMRC's prices are very reasonable, a Lepiota peele
>: culture is $50 if I remember correctly. 

I remembered wrong, Psilocybe cubensis (Gulf coast) cultures are $50
(spores $5), Lepiota peele cultures are $112 (spores $10). The prices 
may have lowered though as Lepiota peele has become more popular. Their 
phone # is (904) 327 4378. They are also home of the Mushroom lobby 
and "Independent mushrooms growers' network", whose members get all sorts
of offers (like info on compounds these mushrooms contain) and don't 
need to use a university letterhead to order Psilocybe 'shroom cultures.
-- 
Petrus.Pennanen@helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS)
Subject: Re: Cannabis smoke (THC solubility)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:10:03 GMT

901371d@aucs.acadiau.ca (Di Dio) writes:
>I think it has everything to do with the solubility(miscuity) of the
>smoke as it travels threw the water.Sorry Cain,but there is heat give
>off when the gas returns to its liquid state,but the smoke only cools
>mildly as it travels threw the pipe,and goes threw condesation
>as it enters you body's system and into your blood stream.
> And you mentioned earilier that THC is not soluable in water in
>that great article about extracting .

Disclaimer: I'm talkin' out my ass here,  but anyway....

I know THC is not water soluble, but I'm not talking about it going into 
solution.  What really matters is whether or not it comes out of suspension
in the air.  The smoke analysis listed the THC as present in particulate 
form, not gas phase.  Now, I don't know anything about the nature of those
particles, or that there isn't also gaseous THC, but particles don't condense:
they settle or strain etc.  What I wrote before compared a water pipe for 
smoking to air pollution cleaning devices.  I don't think that all the 
particles coming out of an industrial process are soluble, but a wet scrubber
takes 'em out regardless.  I realize that most bongs are not made to be 
anywhere near as efficient as air pollution devices, so the THC removed by
a bong is probably not very great.
I don't understand how Bob's example is being disputed here; I mean, resin
is not theoretical!  Obviously, the solubility of THC has nothing to do with
its buildup on surfaces that are not underwater.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 08:13:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

joshua@coombs.anu.edu.au (Joshua Geller) writes:
: Unfortunately, I see a period of effective fascism before this happens
: (and possibly a revolution).
: 
: josh

Josh, How's about some good old fashioned civil disobedience.  It's worked
before.  We aren't still in Viet Nam any more. There do be a price though.
Do be, DO BE, doobie.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: fordam@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andrew M Ford)
Subject: fun with inhalants
Reply-To: fordam@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andrew M Ford)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:51:24 GMT



At the beginning of this school year me and a friend were looking to get  
high real bad, so we decided to try modle glue. At first it was bad  
because the manufacturer put some mustard seed in the glue to discourage  
inhaling it, but we still managed to.  After inhaling about one tube a  
piece, we were pretty fucked up. No visuals or anything real intense, but  
just an extremely euphoric feeling.  Anybody out there ever try glue or  
any other type of inhalant, and were they any good? Also, any body heard  
of someone frying their brains from doing thisy type of shit.
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From: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: DO SOMETHING!
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:39:35 -0500

In article <1992Apr9.150817.280@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
> kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
> 
> You'll be helping to spread the anti-WoSD message, and getting your 
> state to support the Christic Institute at the same time.  
> 
> -- Danny   (Two points for us :)

	Sorry, but I'm not interested in "getting my state" interested
	in anything with the word "Christ" in it. There is far too much 
	of this already - and indeed it serves as part of the 
	philosophical basis for the WOD. Malignant paternalism rooted
	in far-flung notions about 'guiding people onto the true path'
	is what is the worst of America. 

-- Jim : Standard Disclaimers
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc
From: hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Hager)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:29:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr15.122951.16821
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

>In article <ISBELL.92Apr14143429@pop-tarts.ai.mit.edu> 
>               isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
>>dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>>
>>> Can anyone name one black leader who supports legalization besides
>>> Mayor Schomke? I asked this question about a year ago and no names 
>>> surfaced.

>> That depends.  Do I count?

>Hell yes. 

>Two names. Any more?

Dick Boddie, Libertarian candidate for President (he lost to Marrou
at the convention).

The Black economist Walter Williams (he's a frequent talking head
on CNN and PBS)
-- 
paul hager		hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

"The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason."
			-- Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: Who to Vote For????
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 12:08:36 GMT

In article <lamontg.702366017@milton> lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>Note that the LP has *other* stands on issues that you may or may not
>enjoy.  Somewhere the LP platform is lurking about on the net...  check
>it out first...

think.com, pub/libernet/LP/libertarian-platform-1992.Z

ObDisclaimer:
Be aware that the platform is a lousy introduction to libertarianism,
being a collection of position statements with only cursory justification.
You will almost certainly disagree with something, but ask yourself whether
you're closer to Marrou/Lord or to Clinton.  (George Bush is left as an
exercise for the reader...)  
In these times of fiscal hardship, can we afford Bill Clinton as President?
Pot was cheaper at the time, but that doesn't justify failing to inhale... 

>Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu  (anon: ap.4497@layout.berkeley.edu)

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
From: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu (Owen Goldin)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Who to Vote For?
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:27:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.00958B1D.09D11EA0
Reply-To: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

FYI, several weeks ago I was talking to someone from Jerry Brown's national
office and she told me that, though JB was opposed to legalization of
marijuana, he was in favor of making its possession a misdemeanor on the
federal level, instead of a felony.  This is something he did accomplish 
on the state level while governor of California.

We may need to take things one step at a time.  Get out there and vote in
the primaries. people!!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: logan@buhub.bradley.edu (Bruce Janov)
Subject: Request for any info on Marijuana and LSD
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 92 20:24:56 GMT

Could somebody send me (or post) some info on Marijuana  or  LSD....

	i.e.uses,  effects, side effects, or anything you can possibly
		imagine...

thanks in advance.

	logan@buhub.bradley.edu

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From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Air Force uses uppers ...
Date: 11 Apr 92 10:31:32 GMT
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <lamontg.702892559@milton>, lamontg@milton (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>>How come its Ok for the Air Force  to do it and not the general public.?
>
>Take coffee and get your doc to prescribe you halcion for insomnia -- nearly
>the same damn thing.

Oh?  Do you get harassed, arrested and convicted for coffee and halcyon?

It might be the same thing as far as the pharmacological effects go,
but I doubt that the legal effects do differ a bit.

//Jyrki
From: 891666t@aucs.acadiau.ca (Trish Turliuk)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: alt.head?
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:35:53 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development) writes:


>rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>>BTW I don' really like alt.heads but that's just a matter of taste. I'd
>>prefer something like alt.altered or alt.perception or some such that
>>won't drive away the more conservative folks who might drop in and find
>>an interest.
>>

>How about alt.ered?

>gary
 
Nice one, Gary. I like it.
Trish
From: kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: questions from NY
Date: 9 Apr 1992 16:33:57 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

In article <1992Apr7.162012.25931@phantom.com> cereal@phantom.com (Cereal Killer) writes:
>>  2.  What is the best why to store doses?
>>  
>
>In a toaster oven set to "warm"  this will keep your acid fresh and  
>effective for extended periods.

Actually I think the best way to store acid is in a cool, dark place.
Try putting the "doses" in tinfoil in the fridge.   Maybe this is just
urban legend....but I've never heard of keeping the stuff in a "warm"
place.   Anyone out there have documentation about the "breakdown" of
LSD due to light or heat ?
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Any hempseed recipes out there?
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:33:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Tim, I think he meant the seeds become sterile after smokin' em for an
extended time. :-)

They pop but they don't puff up.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: craig@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ryan Craig)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: kids and LSD
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:07:57 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <1992Apr8.110930.6056@leland.Stanford.EDU> chaz@leland.Stanford.EDU (charles andre) writes:

>Also, this guy tells
>me that some of his friends have been dropping acid since 7th grade (!)
>   so my question is, does anybody have experience of doing acid since
>an early age?  Is there any evidence that acid could be more harmful
>to the brain of a young kid/teenager as opposed to the effects
>on the adult brain?  What do you all think?  Thanks in advance for
>any information.

I don't know about evidence, but I know many people who I went to school with,
and some I didn't who are younger than me, who did acid regularly when they
were in grade 8-9.  For many of them this was the only time they used it.  I
didn't myself, because I stayed pretty clean until I left high school.
Anyway, these people seem to be about as well adjusted as anyone else I know
my age (Of, course, maybe they've all been doing acid since grade 8 :-) )
So, from my observations, it doesn't seem to lead to any developmental problems
or permanent damage, at least none that is visible yet.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: is ephedrine a prescription only?
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 04:06:44 GMT

jduncan@willamette.edu (Jack Duncan) writes:


>is just straight ephedrine available over the counter?
>
>***  i know that it is available in primatene tablets.  i am only
>     interested in plain ephedrine tablets.

Don't they sell the stuff in truck stops?  I don't know if they're straight
ephedrene, but they do at least contain ephedrine, and are available over
the counter.

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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.fan.john-palmer,alt.postmodern,alt.angst
Subject: Re: alt.cascade anyone? (was Re: Aaaaaaaiiiieeeeee...)
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:50:50 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <2nmj-nb.rcain@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:

>I hope so.  I *love* these things.  Please you guys that don't, just
>put something in your kill file.  It really isn't that hard.  They will
>all begin with Aiieeeee or some variation thereof.  Perhaps the rest of
>us cascade lovers could agree to standardize on a subject line for those
>whose nerves go aaieeeeee.
>
>Peace,

I'm sorry but your enthusiasm and downright irrational enjoyment of
cascade files has forced us to classify them as a class 1 substance.
This gives us the same authority as we would have if you were talking
crack. The "Peace" reference gave you away right off. Is that computer 
you're using payed off, by the way?

Bob Church

P.S. The "payed off" query is a reference to the tv show cops. You
should see it, it's great.  They show cops pretty much setting people
up, and then, salivating over the worth of all this stuff they are 
going to confiscate and sell. They typically ask if a car is paid off and
if the owner says yes they give each other the high sign. That's what they 
mean in the theme song "What you gonna do when they come for you?".


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