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From: dominguest@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Article 2365 of rec.music.newage on Enya and the Clannad
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:59:57 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

In article <1k8ja1INNprv@digex.digex.com>, frampton@access.digex.com (Adam Frampton) writes:
>>>Clannad started out as an Irish Gaelic band.  For a good sample, try "Clannad
>>>in Concert" from tara(?) records.  Over the last few years they have sort of
>>>left the folk/traditional scene and become more "pop" along the lines of Enya. 
>>>In fact Enya originally was a memeber of Clannad.  I would not go as far as
>>>calling either Enya of Clannad New Age (not on the grounds of any religious
>>>reasons, but because they have too much of an Irish Gaelic folk streak in
>>>them.)  Of course, people will be saying their satanic because they sing in
>>>gaelic, next.  For good recent Clannad, check out the soundtrack to "Patriot
>>>Games" with Harrison Ford.
> 
> Hmmm... I have a tape called "Mouth Music" which is Gaelic, and
> it's pretty good. I like enya too... hmmm: where could I find these
> tapes?
> 
> 
> Adam Frampton - Washington DC - frampton@access.digex.com
> 
>
If you're in the D.C. area for all your folk/traditional/New Age music needs go
to House of Musical Traditions (HMT) that's where I bought Clannad's "Clannad
in Concert" mentioned above.  Their address is:

	House of Musical Traditions
	7040 Carroll Ave.
	Takoma Park, MD 20912
	(301) 270-9090

They carry "folk instruments, books and recordings from around the world."
Truly good selection.
From: mephdbo@prism.gatech.EDU (Cosmic Stranger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: music in Blade Runner
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:48:26 GMT
Organization: ***

In article <1k73l4INN4s8@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>> Vangelis composed and performed all of the music that was heard in the
>> film
>
>Gotta love his vocals on "One More Kiss, Dear" . . .

Yeah..some very poignant tracks..
beauty is more than skin deep kind of experience for me..

very old topic..but could not resist..
music provides such memories some times..
memories of green...
may be
-- 
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"MEDITATION should - like a window - open the approach to
 ourselves"			----E.S.
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From: wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Music and memories
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:42:45 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


You are not alone in this.  Psychology marks well the phenomenon whereby 
people's memories are triggered by any number of sensory inputs (ugh,
sounds so clinical, huh?). Anyway, people have been known to react
to sounds and places and smells, as well, to name a few.
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: jloya@world.std.com (Jim Loya)
Subject: Re: Mike Oldfield
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:02:54 GMT

I've been discovering that a lot with certain analog recordings... the
best example is "Days of Future Passed" by the Moody Blues... on vinyl
(mainly the original '69 Deram pressing) you can tell they blatantly
pumped about 40% additional reverb across the entire sound picture, while
the supposedly original masters transferred to disc sound like cardboard
(if cardboard could produce a sound -- I think you know what I mean).  My
recollection of vinyl pressing in that time period was that many artists
insisted on having extra reverb punched in as the masters were being cut
to the metal mothers, simply to acquire a fatter sound.

Focus is another example -- IRS recently re-re-re-re-released several
titles on CD that were, according to the liner notes, digitally remastered
from original 1/4" tapes -- horsesh** to that, if you have a studio
engineer's ear... still, they did manage to get a good sound onto disc.

Enough raving. Off to find Ommadawn.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: beltran@ns.network.com (Tony R. Beltran)
Subject: Re: Novel Midi Controllers
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:19:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.023012.3268@Princeton.EDU> andy@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Andrew M. Milburn) writes:
>	I'm looking for non-standard ways of generating midi data
>for live performance.  I'm presently trying to hack together a
>Genesis PowerGlove to MIDI box, but I'd like to avoid re-inventing
>the wheel.
>
>	Any pointers to existing systems would be appreciated.

To me, the easiest way to do this is to connect the Power Glove (PG)
to the parallel port on a PC.  Then, in software, read the glove and
convert this data (via lookup tables) to whatever midi events you
wish to generate.  I have done this and it works very well.  The
powerglove software routines and interfacing info is on sunee.uwaterloo.ca.

Tony
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: help w/ line noise
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:53:21 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <32430027@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com>
                        spatel@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (S Patel) writes:

>The problem is that when all units are on, I hear audible hum (line noise).
>It gets worse when effect-return controls are turned up. I've checked the 
>audio cable connection, and everything seems to be snug. 
>
>Do I have faulty mixer or is any of other units bad ?? I purchases them all NEW
>and are about 1 year old.

The first step in any matter of this sort is to determine from where the hum
is coming.  Proceed as follows:

	1) Set all system gain controls to minimum.  This includes mixer
	   master outputs, individual mixer inputs, all effects returns,
	   effects device outputs, instruments, etc.  If the hum is still
	   present, the problem is in your monitoring system.

	2) Bring the mixer master output controls up to their nominal
	   position.  If this brings up the hum, the problem is in the mixer
	   output stage.  Note that it is normal for some noise to appear
	   when you do this, especially if you have the monitoring system's
	   gain turned way up in an effort to hear the noise.

	3) Individually bring up each of the mixer's input levels.  If one
	   of them brings up the hum, that input is at fault.  Note that I
	   didn't say that the instrument is at fault (their output levels
	   are still set to minimum at this point); I mean that input of the
	   mixer.

	4) Bring up the effects return(s).  If the hum now appears, the
	   problem is in the return circuit.

	5) Bring up each instrument.  If one of them brings up the hum, it
	   is at fault.

	6) Finally, bring up the effects device output levels.  If that
	   brings up the noise, the effects device is at fault.

The key here is to view the system as a series of stages, eliminate all
possible noise sources, and, starting from the output end of the system,
work your way back to the front.

This may sound patronizing, but I find that many people fail to see the
system as a series of subsystems, and therefore fail to see that they can
be isolated and their proper operation verified individually.  Until one
can do this, one can only stab in the dark, rather than procede logically
to a solution.

-- 
============================================================================
Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
From: circuit@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Circuit)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Old stuff
Date: 27 Jan 1993 08:33:38 GMT
Organization: Insanity
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Summary: ARP, and others...
Originator: circuit@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


	Anybody have any information on where one might be able to find
old synths like ARP synths or an old Jupiter 8 or Jupiter 6 , 1975-1984 era
synths...etc ?


Any info thanks!


Chris
-- 
circuit@csd4.csd.uwm.edu       Ministry of Misinformation
circuit@convex.csd.uwm.edu     Clearly the rantings of madman...
"..I Believe that entropy will eventually come to..HEY where'd everybody go?"
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
X-Sender:  (Unverified)
Subject: Re: Roland JD-800 -- BEAUTIFUL!
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:24:33 +0000

>It has to compete because if I want sparkling analog sounds I would buy
>K2000, not JD-800.

..and if you want a front-panel you buy a JD-800. It's called the
marketplace. I don't see your point.

                     Nick Rothwell  |  "I was 'on the floor' while they
  CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |   were being shot and I vividly
       cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |   remember Joan Collins' legs."
       cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |      -- J. B., scriptwriter, Space:1999
From: awest@ub.d.umn.edu (The Piano Man)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: *** Where can I find a patch Roland D10 patch dump program for AtariST?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 15:06:29 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

 I would like to find a patch dump program for my Roland D10.  I have an
 Atari 1040ST.  I would like to get the patches off the net, but don't know
 how!!!  Please help !!!

 Andrew 
 awest@ub.d.umn.edu

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   |  |)  |==|  "We're all in the    *
   |  |   |  |   mood for a melody,  * 
  *. *   *  *    and you've got us   * 
		 feelin' alright."   *
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:20398 rec.music.makers.synth:1900
From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Virtual front panels (was Re: Roland JD-800 -- BEAUTIFUL!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:22:28 GMT

In article <CUBASE.93Jan27142514@kaarne.cs.tut.fi> cubase@cs.tut.fi (Pekka Martikainen) writes:
>You may disagree, people like different things. The panel of JD-800 is not
>so good as in old analog synths. You can't "see" the sound if you look the
>sliders. That is, of course, the problem of every synth that have memory.

	It would be cool if someone would make a programmable synth with a
full front panel of virtual knobs (that turn around and around by steps, like
on the Xpander), with little LCD / flourescent / LED displays under each with
2 to three digits showing the current value, or even cooler would be radial
LED squares around the knob - a virtual pointer.

	The next best thing is for each knob to have a button that you can
press and see the original value on a single display, so that if you tweak the
knob (normal kind, now), you can reset it to its original value exactly, 
without having to judge by sound again what you had it set to.  Or the display
could show the original and current values so turning the knob wouldn't lose
the original value display, making knob-button pairs unnecessary (though you'd
still have to change a value by turning a knob to see its value).  Perhaps
the new Waldorf Wave will do something like this.  <Pant!  Pant!  Gear lust
attack!  God why did I ask Steinberg/Jones to send me info on that thing?
Ooooh, eet hurts!  *WHY* does eet hurt, Stimpy?>

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From: franko@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Franko)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Stuff for Sale
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 11:36:39 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

Here is the latest update of stuff I have for sale.

I have the following items for sale...the prices are in US dollars.

Atari 1040 STE with 2 meg RAM                         $300
Atari 520 ST w/Double Sided Floppy                    $150
Atari 14" hi-rez monochrome monitor (new type)        $150
Atari Colour Monitor                                  $200
Atari Megafile 60 hard disk                           $300
Atari 20 Meg hard disk                                $150
Cubase Version 3.0 for Atari                          $300
Steinburg Avalon sample editor for Atari              $200
Word Perfect 4.1 for Atari                            $60
Data Manager ST for Atari                             $20
Monitor Master for Atari                              $30
Calamus guide to desk. pub. (book for Atari)          $20
MIDIMAN Fineline 24 channel line mixer                $250
Roland LA-PC1 & MCB-1 (IBM sound & MIDI card)         $250
Korg Wavestation w/3 card sets & RAM card             $1000
Ensoniq SL-17 (Guitars) for EPS/EPS-16+/ASR-10        $25
Ensoniq SL-16 (Synths) for EPS/EPS-16+/ASR-10         $25
Roland TR-808 (excellent condition - long kick)       $450
Boss Enhancer Pedal (great for sampling stuff!)       $30

Please leave E-Mail for further details and method of payment.

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franko@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Franko)
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (C A S S I E L)
X-Sender:  (Unverified)
Subject: Re: Roland JD-800 -- BEAUTIFUL!
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:19:16 +0000

>JD-990>Got one, Aron...

>Nick you *dog*! or spell it backwards! :-)
>Either way - howd you get it so fast?

No, you misunderstand, I assumed that you were planting a bit of fictitious
information in order to trap unwary readers, and someone was so trapped..,
(as was I...).

I may move to a JD-class machine c/w sliders, but it'll have to wait its
turn in the shopping list (DP/4 (2 off), WS A/D, K2000 come first...).

                     Nick Rothwell  |  "I was 'on the floor' while they
  CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |   were being shot and I vividly
       cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |   remember Joan Collins' legs."
       cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |      -- J. B., Script Editor, Space:1999

Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:20322 rec.music.makers.synth:1810 rec.music.makers:12122
From: ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (MC)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.makers
Subject: Peavey SX II - what's the scoop???
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:37:43 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Saw an ad for the SX II, a stereo version of the older SX????
What's the difference apart from the stereo specs??? Is this new
unit available in stores and how much is it(or will it be when it
comes out)???  Hope it outperforms the SX which seemed to get a lot
of negative comment on the net.



Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Carr-C10973@email.comm.mot.com (Eric Carr)
Subject: What ever happened to.....?
Organization: Motorola LMPS Engineering
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:48:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.synth


Does anyone know what became of Moog synthesizers?  Are they still around
or did they get bought up by some company (i.e. Suzuki Hammond).

Also, does anyone know of a source for schematics for home-built
instruments?  I know there used to be a couple of companies, such as PAIA
(which, by the way, stopped making their home-built kits for synth's).

Thanks for any info!

                                     
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: kocherp@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Carl Kocher)
Subject: ANNOUNCING CREATION OF M1 MAILING LIST
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:12:55 GMT


I will be starting an informal M1 mailing list soon.

If you'd like to discuss the M1, trade (legal) patches, etc.,
send me a *brief* message with your name and e-mail address.
As mentioned above, there may be a week or two I get the list
together, so don't worry if you don't get an immediate response
to your request.

-- Paul Kocher
kocherp@leland.stanford.edu

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p.s. I already have the following names:

young@scsu.ctstateu.edu                John Young
christen@astro.ocis.temple.edu         Carl Christensen
hjv@phil.ruu.nl                        Hendrik Jan
burbs@mstcat.intel.com                 David Burba
keeler@hercules.cs.uregina.ca          Jason Keeler
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: law40035@nusunix1.nus.sg (ANG CHENG KOON)
Subject: Re: Samplers and CD-ROMs - OPINIONS WANTED!
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:59:44 GMT

If displays are important, nothing beats Roland.
Akai's little blue LCD screen, which burns out after a couple of years,
cannot match a Roland sampler plugged into ANY COMPUTER MONITOR.  yes,
any common monitor, even a cheap monochrome second-hand one, is gonna be
at least 14".  much bigger than the Akai runt.
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:20414 comp.music:6439
From: JRB@cup.portal.com (Jerry Randal Bauer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Re: The best MIDI programming book in C?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 18:20:07 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <33@qcktrn.qcktrn.com>

As promised, here is the address of Music Quest:

Music Quest, Inc.
P.O. Box 260963
Plano. TX 75026-0963

(214)881-7408

In an earlier message, I stated that the Music Quest Interface
Technical Reference was of more use to me than Jim Conger's
MIDI books, but I did not have the address at that time.

Jerry Randal Bauer
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Pitch the baby)
Subject: 909 drums for my EPS?
Organization: We take what we want, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:01:45 GMT

Does anyone have an EPS and have a 909 drumkit for it? I'd like to get a copy
of it if possible.. (There isn't anything on nexttues.reed.edu with 909's in
it).. 

I need them for an EPS classic.. I have software to convert the disks to
image files for FTP'ing, and I'd like to do it that way.


--john


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: scharf@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Ron Scharf)
Subject: Re: Roland JD-800
Organization: LRS
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:02:57 GMT

chuckies@cs.mcgill.ca (Charles J Savoie) writes:

>I was at a music store the other day, going through the endless streams
>of long release, reverby atmospheric sounds that all the new synths
>seem to love, then I came across the JD-800, which *blew me away* with
>great, *useable* synth sounds - that actually sound like a synth.

>Anyway, could anyone give me a brief idea of the method of synthesis
>on this machine, as well as polyphony, and multi-channel support?
>Also some first-hand (i.e. owners') opinions of the machine itself
>would be great.

>Thanks in advance,
>Charles

Hi Charles!
The JD800 uses a synthesis similar to the Roland D50, i.e. there is a bunch
(>100) sampled waveforms in ROM, which serve as input to an analog-like
VCO-VCF-VCA chain (I think the correct terms are WG-TVF-TVA (Waveform Generator,
Time Variant Filter, Time Variant Amplifier)). The ROM PCM waves include
raw synth waves (like sawtooth, sine, rectangular, pink and white noise...)
and also sampled "natural" sounds (like pianos, strings, brass etc.).
Note that the JD800 is *NOT* a sample player, as the samples are rather poor
(IMHO). What makes the JD800 sound so great is the combination of the
sampled waves *and* the TVF-TVA processing. If you ever have been using an
"old" Roland synth (like Jupiter-?, Juno-* or JX-?P), you will find the
synthesis principle and also the editing (from the users point of view)
very similar to them. (I said "from the users point of view" --- I know that
the synthesis principle is different, but that's not obvious to the user.
No flames please!!!) At least I had no problem to understand what's
going on in the machine (other than with my DX7 ;-).
Each patch of the JD800 consists of up to four layers (don't blame me if
I use the wrong terms, may also be "sounds" which consist of "voices").
The number of layers used for a patch influences the polyphony of the
instrument. The JD800 is 24-voice polyphonic, but only if you use one
layer of a patch. If you use all four (and many sounds do this), the polyphony
is reduced to six voices at a time.
There is a sort of multi mode, where you can play 4 patches simultaneously
via MIDI and have also a so-called "Special"-Setup. In the special setup,
you can assign a patch (or was it a layer?) to every key (which is mostly used
for drum setups). Disadvantage: You can only store ONE multi setup.
The JD800 also includes some masterkeyboard features. For each patch, you can
set up a keyboard mode (single, split, double), split point, MIDI channels
for upper and lower zone, and program change numbers (also for upper and
lower zone). 

Hope this helps. I don't sit here with the manuals at hand, but have been
recalling this from mind. If some minor details may be wrong, please excuse.

Bye
	Ron
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth,comp.misc,misc.misc,alt.games.video.classic
From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Subject: nine-pin RS-232C extension cord sought
Followup-To: poster
Summary: Radio Shack doesn't make 'em anymore; who does?
Keywords: RS232C nine-pin 9-pin joystick Atari Ensoniq EPS OEX-8 Output
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 23:08:31 GMT

        Last summer I visited a Radio Shack in order to get their joystick
extension cord (a nine-pin male RS-232C to nine-pin female RS-232C extension
cord, which I think was six feet long) for use with my Ensoniq EPS and OEX-8
Output Expander.  Luckily, I was able to pick one up for $1.00 since their
joystick extension cord was being discontinued.  Like the dummy I am, though, I
failed to pick up the other remaining one they had; now it's impossible to get
one at any Radio Shack.

        Can anyone tell me where I could buy such an extension cord nowadays?
Ribbon cable is not acceptable; the Radio Shack extension cord was made of the
same cable that old Atari joysticks used, and seemed to work fine.  All nine
pins must be active (i.e. no dummy pins).  The more rugged, the better!


-- 
John Davison, davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
"The next time you start to say, 'Purdue isn't as racist as some other places,'
 bite your tongue.  I've lived in the South [U.S.] all my life, and I have
 never encountered as much racism there as I have here."   -- Sumi Rebeiro
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: martinsa@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Steven A. Martin)
Subject: Roland Super-JX for SALE !!!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:46:16 GMT

I have for sale one Roland JX-10 (Super-JX).  Along with it goes a $200 flight
case.  For those only interested in the bottom line I'm selling both for
$700 + shipping costs (OBO).  Reason for this wonderful bargain - I'm getting
married in June and I need the money.  For those interested in the details here
they are:

	Roland JX-10 (Super-JX)
	- Digitally controlled analog synth
	- 76 keys
	- Velocity sensitivity and aftertouch
	- MIDI
	- 2 sound cartridges
	- 12 voice polyphony (the equivilent of 2 JX-8P's)
	- The flight case has recessed latches and a recessed handle
	- Great 'classic' analog sounds

I hate to sell it, but it is either that or starve and I figure can always try
to buy another in a year or so when I'm out of school.

Steve Martin
martinsa@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

S-Mail:
Steve Martin
Joshua House
24 Russell St.
W. Lafayette, IN 47906-2812
317/743-1580