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From: jxm@engin.umich.edu (John Murray)
Subject: Re: The Mero - info wanted
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 22:21:28 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: rec

In article <ZAPHOD.93Jan6205646@kuuppa.cs.hut.fi> zaphod@niksula.hut.fi (Seppo J Niemi) writes:
>
>I recently bought a Dubliners' CD, in which I found a mostly
>interesting song called 'The Mero'. Now what does 'Mero' actually
>mean, and what is the whole song about? I tried to look it up in a few
>dictionaries, but they were of no help to me.
>

I haven't heard the song, but it almost certainly refers to 
the Mary Street Picture House, which was an early cinema in
Dublin apparently. As with everything in Dublin, the slang 
name is formed by sticking -oh onto the end of the first 
syllable (Mont-o, Harm-o, Phoen-o, etc.) 

-John Murray 
 Univ. of Michigan
 

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Coffee songs
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:40:27 GMT

sag@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Goldfield):
>But all other Arabs I know serve Turkish coffee in their homes.

There's an annual ethnic folk festival in Toronto called "Caravan", with
the various ethnic groups presenting their folk culture and their cuisine.
It seems that two of the results of the prolonged Turkish domination of
the middle east and the Balkans were a strong Turkish cultural influence
and a legacy of ill-will towards Turkey.

About a dozen of the groups served Turkish coffee, and all of them would
react indignantly to any attempt to *call* it Turkish coffee, insisting
that what they were serving was Bosnian coffee or Greek coffee or
Armenian coffee or...

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

Roses red and violets blew
  and all the sweetest flowres that in the forrest grew -- Edmund Spenser
From: putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Cheryl Wheeler information needed
Date: 13 Jan 93 05:13:25 GMT
Organization: Xerox PARC

I haven't seen any CDs, but...

Last month while visiting Texas I stumbled upon a discount store selling
some cut-out cassette tapes three for $1 (yes, 33 cents each!).  Among them
were at least a dozen copies of "Circles and Arrows".

I assume they are cut-outs because they have a small hole drilled through the
cassette box.  I assume that means no royalties were paid for those copies?

Steve Putz <putz@parc.xerox.com>
Xerox Palo Alto Research Center
Palo Alto, California
From: franceschi@pasadena-dc.bofa.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Little Floyd Collins
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:57:56 PDT
Organization: Bank America Systems Engineering, Pasadena, CA

I remember slightly a song about Floyd Collins. It may have been
about a mine disaster; sung in a "hillbilly" style, the chorus
mentioned "to his grave".  I probably heard it 20 to 30 years ago.

This isn't much information, but may refresh some other networker's
memory.
From: billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu (Bill Richardson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: new age and  conflicts for Christians
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:12:44 GMT


A case in pont:  Lorenna McKinnock is not new age in my book but could  
easily be classified as such along with Clannad and Enya.  The tune on her  
album titled All Souls Night would raise questions for some serious  
Christians.  If that tune can be construed as celebrating witchcraft then  
a lot of conscientious people would have to avoid the whole recording.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: kdawson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathryn E Dawson)
Subject: Crucial release dates sought
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:13:04 GMT

Before I spend the money I got for Christmas on something mundane
like a utility bill, can anyone tell me the release status of:

Nanci Griffith's new CD?

The Four Bitchin' Babes new CD?

Cheryl Wheeler's new CD?

Also, I heard my first Iris Dement (sp?) song this week and loved it.
It was titled something like "I just let the mystery be."  Can anyone
tell me what release this is on and how available it is?

It's a gray January in Ohio, and I need some music to thrust some
color into my life!
                     Thanks.       Kathryn
From: judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Celtic Music
Date: 8 Jan 1993 20:20:31 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpcsmfg2.col.hp.com

schumach@stortek.com (Kurt Schumacher) writes:
> In article 20595@eskimo.com, feathers@eskimo.com (Cheryl) writes:
> > Have you listened to any traditional Celtic harp music yet?  Patrick
> > Ball playing the Celtic harp is the closest thing to divine I've ever
> > heard here on earth.
> 
> I recently saw Patrick Ball in concert in Denver.  Not only is he a terrific
> harper, but he is a wonderful storyteller as well!  I wishe he would put out
> an album mixing his storytelling and music, as he did at his concert.  I
> guess the music industry thinks that "spoken word" dosn't sell.
> 
> 	Kurt

I agree ... his story telling is wonderful.  
I wasn't expecting it and was an added bonus.

Maybe Will Ackerman's new recording company, "The Spoken Word", will feature 
him.

Judy
From: ghaas@hazelwood (Guy Haas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Two Music Source Inquiries- "The Weavers" and "Gently Johny"
Keywords: Clancys, Weavers
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:10:12 GMT
Reply-To: uunet!informix.com!ghaas
Distribution: world,na
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan11.081504.1@stsci.edu> gawne@stsci.edu writes:
> In article <1ili5vINNb55@lester.appstate.edu>, 
> GRS00037@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (Blackie) writes:
> > 
> > 			If it wasnt for the weavers,
> > 			What would we do?
> > 			We wouldnt have a cloth thats made of wool.
> > 			We wouldnt a 'hay a coat of the brown or the blue.
> > 			If it wasnt for the work of the weavers.
> > 
> > It sounds like the Clancy brothers, but I cant find it on any of their 
> > alblums. 
> 
> And indeed it is.  I *may* still have the album (unless my children and
> dogs  have done it in).  It's on Tradition, and it's one of the Clancy
> Brothers and Tommy Makem albums.  As I recall this one also has Brennan
> on the Moor, Roddy McCorley, and We'll Haul Away Joe (among others).  
> It's been too many years since I've listened to it.
> 
> -Bill Gawne,  Space Telescope Science Institute

Ah, yes.  The latter is Columbia CS 8448, the Columbia debut album   
of the Clancy Brother & Tommy Makem, plus "Peter Seeger" and 
Bruce Langhorne.  Gotta be from like 1959+/-2.  (I believe that
"Haul Away Joe" is on a different disk, though.)

--Guy Haas
  Informix Software, Inc
  Menlo Park CA   
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: schumach@stortek.com (Kurt Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Celtic Music
Reply-To: schumach@stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:44:05 GMT

In article 20595@eskimo.com, feathers@eskimo.com (Cheryl) writes:
> Have you listened to any traditional Celtic harp music yet?  Patrick
> Ball playing the Celtic harp is the closest thing to divine I've ever
> heard here on earth.

I recently saw Patrick Ball in concert in Denver.  Not only is he a terrific
harper, but he is a wonderful storyteller as well!  I wishe he would put out
an album mixing his storytelling and music, as he did at his concert.  I
guess the music industry thinks that "spoken word" dosn't sell.

	Kurt

Organization: University Libraries - E&S Library, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 1993 10:48:23 -0500 
From: "Jane F. Kinkus" <jk79+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: name this artist


>I heard a song called "Sensitive New Age Guys" on Dr. Demento last year,
>and I think it's by Christine Lavin.  Last week I heard another song called
>"I Love Bald-Headed Men" and I think it's by the same person.  Can anyone
>confirm this for me, and if so, tell me what albums these songs are on? 
>Thanks!
 
The song "Sensitive New Age Guys" is a Christine Lavin song; I believe
it was co-written by Christine and John Gorka.  It's on her album
"Attainable Love," a Rounder Release from 1990 or 1991.

I don't know anything about the Bald-Headed Men song.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Subject: Double Bass for Sale
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 15:58:00 +0000

Subject: Double Bass for Sale
=============================

[For UK post only: Sorry my mailer can't automatically do UK 
distribution posts.]


3/4 size Double Bass for sale. Blonde, carved Zeller model, includes 
soft case. A-mazing sound, but sadly I'm moving to smaller premises 
that only allow for my bass guitars.

Two years old, never gigged, never left my house and it's in 
absolutely pristine condition. Cost #670. Want to sell for #550 
o.n.o.

Please don't follow up in this newsgroup, please Email me for more 
information and I'll post you my telephone number if you';re 
interested.

Thank you

Clive Grace
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jdalin@devildog.att.com (Jimmy Dalin)
Subject: Re: Mandolin Brothers/Santa Cruz guitars
Organization: AT&T IMS - Piscataway, NJ (USA)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:50:07 GMT

Many people prefer the sound of mahogany over rosewood.  I would caution you
that traditional OM's have a wide fingerboard (neck width at nut is around 1
3/4"), which makes them more applicable for finger style as opposed to flat
picking.  For the latter, a OOO shape guitar is very similar, but the neck
is narrower and the string length is I believe a little longer.
-- 
Jim Dalin            "No Salga Afuera"  
AT&T                    N.Y.C.T.A.
ATTMail id: !jdalin            
Compuserve: 72260,1573
From: krj@netsun.cl.msu.edu (Ken Josenhans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Down Home vs. Roots & Rhythm (was Re: Where could I find ...)
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:38:01 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: netsun.cl.msu.edu

In article <1993Jan7.164902.26164@stortek.com> schumach@stortek.com writes:
>
>I believe Down Home Music is now known as Roots & Rhythm....

To be somewhat more accurate:  The retail side and the mail order side
of the old Down Home Music parted ways.  The retail side kept the old
location and name, and I assume they are still likely to be one of the 
best sources in the SF Bay area for folk music.  

The mail order side continued to use the Down Home name for about a year, 
and last year they were rechristened as Roots & Rhythm.

-- 
--Ken Josenhans
    Internet: 13020KRJ@msu.edu      Bitnet: 13020KRJ@msu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: margog@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Where to find music in Dublin
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:35:07 GMT

Somewhere along the line, someone recommended O'Donohues.  I would like to
put forward a big word of caution.  O'Donohue's is awful:  touristy ,
noisey, and most of the time, the music is horrendous (a lot of bad Bob
Dylan impersonators).   The Brazen Head is fine.  But IMHO, Michael Hughes'
in Chauncery Street is the best, if you want to hear the real thing.  In
fact, many times some of the bigger name Celtic musicians pop in
unexpectedly for an impromptu jam.  I remember sitting there one night and
Michael O'Domnhail came in.  So did Dolores Keane on another visit.  And
even if these recognizable names aren't playing, the quality of those
playing is superb.   And yes, if you play an instrument or sing, you can
even sit in on the session.  Audience participation in encouraged, as is
dancing.  I haven't been over for 2 years, and I wonder if they still have
their Sunday morning sessions running.   Great stuff.  Again, that's in
Chauncery Street , on the other side of the Liffey, near Henry Street as
well as the Abbey Theatre. 



                                                                            
                        
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: name this artist
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:57:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.231758.25379@wam.umd.edu> sorsha@next02wor.wam.umd.edu 
(Laurie Beth Brunner) writes:

   I heard a song called "Sensitive New Age Guys" on Dr. Demento last year,
   and I think it's by Christine Lavin.  Last week I heard another song called
   "I Love Bald-Headed Men" and I think it's by the same person.  Can anyone
   confirm this for me, and if so, tell me what albums these songs are on? 
   Thanks!

1st song: confirmed.  I seem to recall her once saying (on Mountain Stage
in 1988 or so) that it was co-written over the telephone with John Gorka
(and the liner notes to _Attainable Love_ do credit Gorka).  It's also on 
the first Four Bitchin' Babes album, "Buy Me, Bring Me, Take Me, Don't
Mess My Hair".  Both are on Philo/Rounder records, One Camp St., Cambridge,
MA  02140.  I recently heard Geoff Bartley do his parody, "Insensitive 
Stone-Age Guys".

2nd song: ??? Help, anyone?



--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Undisputed Masters
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:25:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.211753.965@oracorp.com> mark@oracorp.com (Mark Bickford) writes:

>I was listening to a tape of Matt Malloy in my car the other day,
>and was overwhelmed as usual. I started wondering how many other
>musicians could be as universally respected as the master of
>his/her instrument in his/her musical genre as Matt Malloy is
>for Irish music on the flute. I thought this question might make
>a good topic for more lists (which we seem to love).

Gordon Duncan 	Highland pipes
Hamish Moore 	Small pipes


What about harpers? 

Hmmmm... styles differ so much:

Patrick Ball	Wire Strung Harp, modern interpretation (rolled 
		chords, glissandi)

Kim Robertson	Gut strung harp, modern interpretation

Alain Stivell	Ancient wire/gut strung harp technique
Alison Kinnaird

Cheryl Fulton	Medieval double and triple harps

Robin Huw Bowen	Welsh triple harp


???



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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.british
From: s14258bc@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: UK CD price fixing
Reply-To: s14258bc@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:06:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.125059.21998@rdg.dec.com>, cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn) writes:
>
>Does anyone know if anything is being done to reduce the silly prices of
>UK CDs? I thought this was being investigated by the MMC. Anyway, I've
>just returned from a trip to Boston and spoke to a record buyer. He
>said that on his trips to the UK, he gets CDs cheaper than the UK
>buyers because he's going to be selling the CDs in the US. If the UK
>manufacturers can afford to sell at the lower prices for export to the
>US, then they can afford to sell at the same price for sale in the UK.
>If this isn't a blantant example of price fixing, I dunno what is.
>I got UK folk CDs in the US for about 8 pound each, about 2/3 of the
>UK price. If they can still make a profit at this price, allowing
>for shipping and import taxes then it shows that the UK manufacturers
>are really creaming off profits at the expense of bands and the UK
>consumer.

I don't know about the CD industry, but I think the UK feels that as long as 
the VAT is around (any current percentage, because I'm still thinking 15% - 
and Canada has a 10% GST), the only way CD's will drop in price is if they are
sold in surplus.  If a store (i.e. HMV) wants to get rid of a CD because it
doesn't sell, it's taking up space, or they want to make room for new CD's 
coming in, they'll reduce the CD to the cut-out racks.  (I would suspect a CD
costs UK#13.99 - US$24).

A better way of buying the CDs you want is searching out second-hand MC/CD 
stores.  (Boston has at least 10 of them!)  If there are some in the UK, you
will enjoy buying the CDs much cheaper than at the department stores - with
the proviso that some of them are used, may have imperfections, etc.  (In the
US, an average used CD will cost $8 - UK#5 - but I'm a diehard tape buyer, 
even though my parents bought me a CD player for Christmas.)

Brian Colby
UMass Dartmouth
285 Old Westport Rd.
N. Dartmouth, MA 02747
(508)-990-9155

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       Interests: Complex variables, linear algebra, numerical 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.british
From: ahall@library1.library.carleton.ca (Alison Hall)
Subject: Re: UK CD price fixing
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:03:32 GMT

>and Canada has a 10% GST), the only way CD's will drop in price is if they are

Um, Canada has 7% GST. This is charged on top of the appropriate Provincial
Sales Tax (PST). Tax on tax, don't you love it.......


Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com (Don Wegeng)
Subject: Re: Alison Brown
Reply-To: wegeng@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corp., Henrietta, NY
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:02:34 GMT


Alison is currently touring with Michelle Shocked's band.

/Don
From: ljane@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Linda Cast)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Who made this harp?
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:55:42 GMT
Reply-To: ljane@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Linda Cast)
Distribution: austin
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX
Originator: ljane@ocean


 A while back I described an antique shop harp find and asked who might
 have made it. Thanks to Becky Root for setting me on the trail -

 Turns out this is a kit at least 17 years old from Hughes. They no longer
 have an 18 string, but they still use guitar tuners on the now smallest
 24 string. May be much older. In 1975 it sold for $79 (now $180). 
 An interesting search, leading past the grand-nephew of Ima Hogg, who
 makes harps, past a local pair of craftsmen who need only leather aprons
 to resemble quaint English instrument makers, and phone calls to folks
 who dug out their old records to check.                     

-- 
Linda Cast             ljane@mpd.tandem.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jonm@Ingres.COM (Don't Judge a book by your cover)
Subject: Re: Mangled song lyrics
Summary: 
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: 
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:50:51 GMT

One I always remember was Inagodavida

Apparently the singer was so stoned when he sang this it should have been
'in the garden of eden.'

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From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Mangled song lyrics
Summary: Earl of Murray
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:08:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1993Jan8.220817.4212
Organization: DAS Purchasing, Harvard University

In article <1993Jan7.215441.21574@pony.Ingres.COM> jonb@ingres.com writes:
>In article <C0Hy4n.391@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>>When I was about 9 a New Zealand hit was a song by (I think) Lonnie Donegan
>>that started
>>	Wake up, wake up darlin Cory
>>	what makes you sleep so sound?
>>	the revenue officers are comin
>>	to tear your stillhouse down...
>>
>>Except that I heard the word "stillhouse" as "silk pants"...
>
>There's a technical name for this sort of thing, coined by San Francisco
>columnist Jon Carroll: "mondegreens".  The term is derived from some folky
>ballad or other -- maybe someone will remember the actual reference?
>-- which contains a line like "They have slain Lord <somebody> and
>Lady Mondegreen."  (The actual line is "...laid him on the green.")

Earl of Murray:

Ye Highlands & Ye Lowlands
O where have ye been
They have slain the Earl of Murray
And laid him on the green
The bonny Earl of Murray
Who might have been a king

He was a braw gallant
And he played at the ball
And the bonnie Earl of Murray
Was a flower among them all

He was a braw gallant
And he played at the glove
And the bonnie Earl of Murray
He was my only love

etc...

Wherefore something Huntley
something something some(thing)
I bade you bring him with you
I forbade you him to slay

(another folkie instruction gone wrong)

Tune is very close cousin to what Dylan used for
"The times they are a changing"

Ewan MacColl does the version I know
Its unboubtably Child Ballad #something
(and a great song)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: savina@andy.bgsu.edu (Sharlyn Avina)
Subject: Easy Club
Keywords: folk, celtic, Easy Club, music
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:51:57 GMT


I was listening to Thistle and Shamrock last Sunday (1-10) on NPR and the band
Easy Club was featured.  Can anyone tell me what CD the song about "the
people under the stairs" is on.  (I'm not  sure what the song is called.)
Also which CDs do you think are the band's best?  Thanks for your help!
-- 
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English Department			(419) 372-6864
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: kdawson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathryn E Dawson)
Subject: I love bald headed men (song title, NOT my sentiment)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:47:54 GMT

"I love bald headed men" is by Christine Lavin and is supposed to be
on the upcoming Four Bitchin' Babes CD.

            Kathryn
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: smolin@ntmtv.UUCP (Mike Smolin)
Subject: Re: Little Floyd Collins
Originator: smolin@herald
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:53:01 GMT

From article <79153@hydra.gatech.EDU>, by cm9@prism.gatech.EDU (MCKEITHAN,CLIFFORD M.):
> A friend has asked for the words to a 
> song called Little Floyd Collins.
> 
The reference is to Floyd Collins, the solo caver
who got stuck and died in the cave that now carries
his name (in Kentucky ??).

Mike Smolin                      |
ntmtv!smolin@ames.arc.nasa.gov   |