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From: dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (DICKENJD)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Tear Garden
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:16:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ctrvx1.14OCT199203164902
Organization: Vanderbilt University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct14.022445.13282@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, ryan@isis.Berkeley.EDU (Ryan McCormack) writes...
>I have been out of it for awhile, so please forgive me if this has
>been covered eons ago.  I just noticed that the new Tear Garden
>CD is out.  Has anybody reviewed it? Got it? Heard it?  I am
>wondering how it compares with "Tired Eyes......."  Mostly I am
>interested in what the split is on the vocals between Ka-Spel
>and Ogre.                                       
> 
>Thansk in advance,
> 
	Well, this release is quite different than "Tired Eyes..". They opted for a more organic/psychedelic/jazz sound, as opposed to the electonics on the first albu. "Last Man..." includes D. R. Goettel, Dave Ogilvie and others 
as opposed to just Key/Ka-Spel. Oh, and BTW: no Ogre. Ah well. If 
you're into the above format, get it. If you're more interested in 
electronics, you'll be disappointed.
>Ryan
J. David Dickens . . . dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: A Split Second - Song Identification
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Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:56:32 GMT


 Speaking of A Split Second, does anybody know what album "Flesh" is on? I
have the video on a Wax Trax video sampler (speaking of THAT does anybody
have #1 of the Wax Trax! video samplers? I want to either buy it or
request a pirated copy... I like the Laibach videos... I never realised
that Geburt Einer Nation was a Queen song!) and I want to know which album
it's on. I haven't been able to find it...

St. Anthony

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From: alh@einoed.in-berlin.de (Adrian Le Hanne)
Subject: Godflesh/Scorn/Techo Animal
Organization: Einoed Unix & Netzwerke, Berlin (FRG)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:35:29 GMT

I saw Scorn playing here last week. Good concert although the club where
they played had a bad sound but that seems to be their trademark.
The music sounds like Godflesh but is more bass oriented. This is probably
nothing to wonder about since Scorn consists of C. Green and P. Neville (?) 
from Godflesh and an additional drummer.
Since J. Broadrick is also doing another project, Techo Animal, i wonder if
there will be another Godflesh release.

Adrian
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From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry Symbols
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:58:11 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dark Park

Jay_Daunheimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jay Daunheimer) writes:


> Kinna like the VIVISECTVI thing isn't it?

	What about the VIVISECTVI thing?




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From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: HOOK HOOKED
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:47:39 GMT

I'm new here but I think  I outa post this.
I went out yesterday and bought my first MINISTRY record (their
latest), on the advice of a friend.  I'd never listened to any
industrial before, but I must say:

TELL ME SOMETHING I DONT KNOW

GIVE ME SOMETHING I DONT NEED

CONNECT THE GODDAM DOTS ....




CONNECT THE GODDAM DOTS.

hook


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ben@NeoSoft.com (Ben Ettinger)
Subject: Re: Nurse With Wound
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 20:17:51 GMT

>> 'Thunder Perfect Mind' is probably the last NWW release. Steve already said
>> that he wanted to quit NWW before this one... (maybe he is depressive ;-)
>
> But if Steve quits what will there be left? A Nurse Without Wound?
 
Looking at the top statement.. I've been eyeing one NWW cd called 'Sugar
Fish Drink'. I thought that was the latest one, coming out after Thunder
Perfect Mind. Is it? I didn't take time to look at the cd# and check them
for which came first..
 
ben (who doesn't have NWW's TPM *yet*, only C93's TPM)
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[I] terror in eye, resist and struggle, your faith is a lie.    [I]
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From: CISR@mindlink.bc.ca (CISR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: FLA's Mindphaser & Japanese cyborg film
Date: 10 Oct 92 05:30:27 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I did an interview with Gary Smith, who runs Plasma Productions, and was
responsible for mindphaser. Yes, it's from Gunhed and Gary obtained usage
from
the Japanese producer. It took three months to do and won Best Alternative
Video at the Canadian Video Awards. Plasma is also responsible for Puppy's
Spasmolytic, Testure and the banned Worlock video. Gary is working on a
cheesy horror movie called chunkblower in which Bill Leeb and Dwayne Goettel
get blown up real good. And that's the definitive story on Mindphaser.

June Scudeler
#204-853 East 7th Avenue,
Vancouver, B.C.V5T 1P4
From: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Review: Nine Inch Nails - Broken
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:31:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.industrial

I live in the U.S.A.  and have the disc with 1 through 99, although I have
heard of one or two people here who picked up the set with a 3"CD.  

If you like _PHM_ as much as you said you did, why did you bother buying
Broken?  I would've waited to hear it somewhere else.  You must have more money
than I.

			-Matt
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: EN mentioned in "Northern Exposure"
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:40:05 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter) writes:
> Did anyone else see last nites Northern Exposure?? The German clock 
> guy was always playing speed-metal sounding music, and starting 
> asking Ed whether he had heard of a bunch of German bands that he 
> was rattling off.
> 
> I noticed EN (sorry, can't spell it without help) but did not 
> recognize the others.
> 
> Anyone catch the names?

one of them was Blixa B-something-or-other-i've-heard-but-can't-spell.

jason

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    with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not, and I'm sick and tired
    of being told that I am!" - Monty Python
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From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Sharp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: kmfdm
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:08:44 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <SMILEY.92Oct8092114@akasha.eng.hou.compaq.com> smiley@akasha.eng.hou.compaq.com (Colin Smiley) writes:
>In article <BvrC1p.3px@rice.edu> mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum) writes:
>   in w. lafayette... i'm not quite sure...
>Yeah, West Laughalot is a pretty dead place.  No Interesting bands
            ^^^^^^^^^
	    Ha.  No, really, it sure is funny.

>ever came there while I attended.
>
>BTW, Matt, wanna know why your account got frozen?

I would be fascinated to find out "why" my account "got frozen".
I was not aware that it was.  I was under the impression that
I traded my mentor account in for a NeXT symphony account.
Are you privy to some information that doesn't exist?



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You certainly do, Colin.  I do not see any information in
the above that pertains in the least to "industrial music."


Industrial music, like all other forms of popculture,
is about three years late in getting to West Lafayette.

The local record store that does the most "importing" has
of last year just begun to obtain NWW, C93, Death In June,
Coil, Throbbing Gristle, SPK, et al.  Previously, the
notion of "industrial" music in WL,IN was considered to be
defined by Ministry(geeks) and Skinny Puppy.


But you should know that, Colin.
I'm sure you weren't here that long ago,
as if you were older, you wouldn't be listening
to "industrial" music.




Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu                                     NeXTmail acc
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Tear Garden
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:45:13 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <1992Oct15.051147.977@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mnsharp@nyx.cs.du.edu (Matthew Sharp) writes:
> 
> 
> Ah, aakhan...
> 
> We've seen him grow and change so much,
> and yet, he still seems like a little twerp.
> 
> Remind me not to have a son.
 
> Matthew Neill Sharp

REMINDER
this is the reminder
for all the semen banks across the nation
CAN WE ACTUALLY RISK A POSSIBILITY OF MNS MULTIPLYING
perish the thought

I just want just the one of you
just for me 

Yum


can someone pass the jalepenos please?

an offering of lust
from flesh chamber9
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: CREATE alt.music.hardcore
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:36:10 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <BvuG27.MqG@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>, fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee) writes:
> 
> If you like: Therapy?, Melvins, Ministry, Skrew, Rollins Band,
> Nirvana, Mudhoney, Godflesh, TAD, Tar, Unsane, Distorted Pony,
> Malhavoc, God Bullies, Neurosis, Lard, Pailhead, Helmet .....etc....

while you have presented the suggestion in a lucid way, and I don't find
anything wrong with the  suggestion there are a few exception
HardCore is too broad a term to be picked as a group name
most of the flagship bands you have mentioned have crossed over to the
mainstream
Nirvana, Ministry, Rollins Band, Mudhoney, Helmet, SoundGarden etc are all
discussed quite frequently ,of all the places, in r.m.m
infact majority of posts on r.m.i concerns some of the bands mentioned above
as I mentioned before picking a name like alt.music.hardcore would leave it
on the same loose footage as r.m.i and I call already foresee majority of
posts coming in complaining about a certain band being hardcore enough
and the resulting flame wars
do you actually beleive that fans of a span of bands as diverse as Unsane and 
Melvins and Nirvana and Ministry can coexist in harmony

r.m.i is the example denying the theory

an offering of love 
from flesh chamber9
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: words are everything
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:52:55 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <1992Oct11.164856.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
> Sorry this borders exactly on mundane but after listnening to it a million
> times, I want to know the lyrics to "inquisition"
> thanks;
> tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu
your guess is as good as mine
I read somewhere about Ogre vowing never to release any LAST RIGHTS lyrics
since they were too personal
Other people's interpretations would be ...... well 
other people's interpretations

an offering of love 
from flesh chamber9





>
From: jhall@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Blade Runner
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:44:44 GMT

I just bought the soundtrack to Blade Runner, it is an orchestral version,
is there a true SOUND TRACk available that is exactly like the movie?
The music was composed by Vangelis.

Jeff Hall
jhall@bonnie.ics.uci.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:11693 alt.music.alternative:12533
From: weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Adam J. Weitzman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Nin Inch Nails - Nothing
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:31:00 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University


Nine Inch Nails' _Broken_ debuted at #7 the week ending October 10th on the 
Billboard Top 200 Albums chart. What is slightly more interesting is that the
its listing in Billboard reveals its record company to be:

Nothing/TVT-Interscope

Further perusing of some of the articles in Billboard indicated that as part
of the deal with TVT, Trent was given his own vanity label (Nothing) to release
his own (and eventually other) albums on (and for TVT/Interscope to distri-
bute). (Wonder why he didn't call it Halo.) At any rate *that* is what the 
"Nothing" means on the _Broken_ release.

Also, a DJ here in Boston said that the forthcoming NIN *album* is due in
January. Guess he's making up for lost time. Aren't we blessed? :-)

-- 
					- Adam J Weitzman
					  weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: Song with "Running Man" samples
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:01:28 GMT

In article <2ADB8D5E.14347@news.service.uci.edu> dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:
>	A friend just asked me who does the song with the Running Man samples
>"It's time to start running!", "Who loves you and who do you love?" and the
>female vocal loop "Did I dream?" - she thinks it's called, appropriately
>enough, "Did I dream?".  Could somebody please tell me who does this and where
>you can find it (any techno compilations?) ?  Thanks.
>

"Temple of Dreams", by Messiah.  The Champion Sounds "Kickin'" sampler has it.


-Howard

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From: b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Skinny sample sources
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:57:18 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Does anyone out there have any sample sources for Too Dark Park and Last Rights?
The recently posted file was real good, so please post any newer material lying
around!
The lyrics to Last Rights and mTPI are also of great interest to me.

/fREDRIK * b92fdu@tdb.uu.se

...it's christmas...eve...
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ramsey@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit)
Subject: Re: Cop Shoot Cop
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:10:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.040021.3557@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au> cwalsh@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Craig Walsh) writes:
>I was in a record shop the other day when I heard a song called 'Suck City'.
>The name of the band was Cop Shoot Cop.
>To me this sounded vaguely like the Wiseblood ep, so I checked out the 
>album and Thirlwell was listed as doing samples and tapes.
>
>I have been a Thirlwell fan for a while but I have never heard of this
>group before. Could someone please post some more info on them.
>

A friend of mine who got a Cop Shoot Cop album lately said it reminds
him remarkably of Foetus, who he listens to alot.

Anyone?  Anyone?

Mad Poo

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.folk,rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:17:52 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <1992Oct6.205203.2560@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) writes:
> 
> Also - Depeche Mode, like it or not... you know, the curly-haired one
> who writes all the songs. One from the first album goes "Hey you're
> such a pretty boy!". And there's a few on transvestism, which of
> course is NOT necessarily linked to homosexuality, from the mid-80s.

just the fact that  someone crossdresses doesn't really reflect preferences
Gore is definetly very feminine but more than homo/bisexuality (maybe because
I don't consider it unusual at all)it's his fascination with 15 year old girls 
that's rather obvious and striking.  Is it just me or did someone else notice
 references to pedophilia(sp) (atleast by American standards, and what's the 
legal age in Britain anyway?)  And as far as I can remember Vince Clark wrote 
all the tracks on the first album


> AND - 
> 
> I can't believe no one mentioned Marc Almond/Soft Cell!
me either

just filling in the blanks
from the flesh chamber9
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.folk,rec.music.dementia
From: barth@wam.umd.edu (Kevin J. Barth)
Subject: Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:16:44 GMT

Not to be a wet blanket, but...

WOULD YOU PLEASE WATCH THE CROSSPOSTING?!?!?!?

While the discussion is very interesting it should not be coming to r.m.dementia
since it has no relation to that group's stated interest.  Please, people, try 
to keep things in their proper order...

Kevin Barth
barth@wam.umd.edu
all responsible flames are welcome...
From: tcschmit@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Tom Schmitendorf)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Tastes in Music
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:13:37 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

First post.  I am a subscriber to Industrial Nation zine, as well as
Technology Works.  Anybody else heard of these or others?  I like the hate and
the anger involved in a lot of the music.  Admittedly, sometimes I don't even
listen to the lyrics.

To name just a few, I like:  Bigod 20, Controlled Bleeding, FLA, Skinny Puppy,
Minister of Noise, NIN, Numb, TKK, Sloppy Wrenchbody, and Vampire Rodents.

I am very interested in others.  Perhaps someone would be interested in
trading mix tapes through the mail - samplers, really.

I recently picked up Consumed by The Final Cut, which is really awesome.  I
also picked up something by Skrew from Metal Blade records, thinking it was
going to be like earlier ministry, but it was mainly just speed-metalish.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU (Todd Bradley)
Subject: Re: negativquestions
Keywords: logic gap
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:45:35 GMT

In article <Bw6vn2.Iv4@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Sharp) writes:
>In article <X> bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU (Todd Bradley) writes:
>>Yes, you've been wrong this whole time.  "180-G" is narrated
>>by the fantastic David Wills (aka The Weatherman).  You can
>>get more of him on the Over The Edge Cassette called (aptly
>>enough) "The Weatherman".  He is an insult to the gay commun-
>>ity, also.                 ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^
> ^^^  ^^^^
>
>Would you care to elaborate on how a person manages
>to be an insult to a community?

Sure.  I'd be glad to.  Just as a gesture, an action, or
a word can be an insult, so can a person.  Additionally,
insults have to work on something or someone.  For example,
a question could be an insult to your intelligence.  Because
David is so reluctant to come out of the closet, he is an
insult to the gay community.

>I am confused on the dynamics of this statement.
>
>	Person = Insult ?
>	Insult = Person ?

Well, I don't want to get into the delicacies of the
English language, but the sentence uses what I think is 
known as a metaphor.  Another example is, "Todd is a
real prince."  Nobody believes that I am really a prince,
but in ways I resemble one, just like David resembles an
insult.

Hope this clears things up.

Todd.

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From: jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: EN mentioned in "Northern Exposure"
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:33:49 GMT
Reply-To: jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter)
Organization: IBM Almaden Research Center

Did anyone else see last nites Northern Exposure?? The German clock guy
was always playing speed-metal sounding music, and starting asking Ed
whether he had heard of a bunch of German bands that he was rattling off.

I noticed EN (sorry, can't spell it without help) but did not recognize
the others.

Anyone catch the names?
 
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From: miller@quiver.enet.dec.com (Brian A. Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Escape From Noise
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:31:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Oct9.151942.3906@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mgunders@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Gunderson) writes...
>In article <1992Sep29.211152.27557@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>>In <1992Sep29.202904.22956@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> miller@quiver.enet.dec.com (Brian A. Miller) writes:
>>>In article <29SEP199214290528@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu>, dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (DICKENJD) writes...
>>>>I've been collecting Escape From Noise from bradley.bradley.edu, 
>>>I assume this is related to the Negativland album _Escape From Noise_ (???)
>>
>>No, it's a mailing list.  It flourished for a while, then died.  The list


A mailing list that discusses what?



>>moderator is making noises about resuming it sometime soon again though.
>>His address is "dave@bradley.edu".  He'll probably see this post and add
>>more relevant info later.
> 
>    EFN is currently active; after a lengthy hiatus Volume 2 has begun
>and is on some irregular publishing schedule. Is there any ESCAPE?
> 
>- Mark G.
>