HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Performance Problems with RN 4.4
Date: 27 Dec 92 04:36:38 GMT
Organization: Borland International

woods@robohack.UUCP (Greg A. Woods) wrote:
> As you might notice in the above "Subject:" header, these routines
> also work wonders on trn-2.2.

FYI - version 2.3 of trn includes this improvement.  A patch will be
posted sometime next week, and the full source uploaded to ftp.uu.net.
Keep an eye on this newsgroup.

..wayne..
Newsgroups: nyx.misc,news.software.readers
From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (JKF)
Subject: Re: threading
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 14:51:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.144102.16960@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aburt@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (Andrew Burt) writes:
>In <1992Dec28.125223.14403@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (JKF) writes:
>
>>Every day, the number of messages threaded gets larger.  It's as though
>>there's a fixed point somewhere a week and some odd days past that gets
>>used as a reference point and every message that has arrived since then
>>gets threaded each time you re-enter a newsgroup.  Any day now it's going
>>to sit there and thread thousands of messages when I go into some of the
>>heavy-traffic newsgroups.
>
>Well, beats me.  I have "mthreads -a all" done twice an hour in crontab.

Embarrassedly, I reply that I have no idea what that does... but what
should we do next?  Start posting about the problem on news.software.readers
or news.admin.technical?  What kind of news software does Nyx use?
From: ronk@cascade.ens.tek.com (Ron Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Trumpet failing to run
Date: 22 Dec 1992 21:17:05 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.,  Beaverton, OR
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Ron.C.Kirkpatrick@tek.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: cascade.ens.tek.com
Keywords: NDIS, Trumpet

I just brought up trumpet 1.05G on a pc running the DNIS drivers from
PC/TCP and I am getting the following error:

   Trumpet Version 1.50 rev G for Packet Driver
   MAC/DIS converter packet driver version 30 6
   No handles for type = 0806

My CONFIG.SYS reads:

   DEVICE=C:\LANMAN\PROTMAN.SYS /I:C:\LANMAN
   DEVICE=C:\LANMAN\ELNKII.DOS
   DEVICE=C:\LANMAN\DIS_PKT.GUP

My AUTOEXEC.BAT reads:

   set PATH=C:\DOS;C:\LANMAN;C:\PCTCP21
   PROMPT $P$G
   SET PCTCP=C:\PCTCP\PCTCP.INI
   cd \ban 
   ban 
   cd \
   ethdrv

and my PROTOCOL.INI reads:

   ;
   ;   3c503 3Com EtherLink II adapter
   ;
      [PROTOCOL MANAGER]
       DRIVERNAME=PROTMAN$

      [ETHERLINKII]
       DRIVERNAME=ELNKII$
       INTERRUPT=5
       IOADDRESS=0x300
       DMACHANNEL   = 1           
       MAXTRANSMITS = 40          
       TRANSCEIVER  = external    
    
      [PKTDRV]
       DRIVERNAME=PKTDRV1$
       INTVEC=0X60
       BINDINGS=ETHERLINKII
   
What am I doing wrong?

-- 
Ron Kirkpatrick
Tektronix, Inc
News Administrator
503-627-6707
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
From: rob@agate.berkeley.edu (Rob Robertson)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: News OVerview concerns
Date: 27 Dec 92 14:24:40
Organization: University of California, Bezerkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: hanalei.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: davison@borland.com's message of Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:47:25 GMT


In article <BzBu72.37n@borland.com> davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison) writes:
      o	There's no way to create overview files for a subset of
	   newsgroups -- its all or nothing.  (Hmmm -- I suppose you
	   could create symbolic links from each .overview file you
	   don't want to /dev/null. :-)  Perhaps an active file
	   enhancement similar to the 'x' field is in order?  Mthreads
	   uses capitalized versions of 'm', 'y', and 'n' for this.

yes there is.  just use your sys (Cnews) or newsfeeds (inn) file to
specify which newsgroups to send or not to send to the overview
database generator.  one possible glitch is cross posted articles... 

rob
--
			  william robertson
			rob@agate.berkeley.edu

     "when i was your age, i walked 10 miles to school, unarmed."
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: WinSock NNTP newsreader ???
From: marc@dwp.la.ca.us (Marc Hall)
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:50:53 GMT
Organization: L.A. Dept. of Water & Power



  Does a DOS based newsreader exist which utilizes a NNTP server exist ?
    Source code ?

  Does a MS Windows newsreader which uses the Windows Socket API to access
  a NNTP server exist ? Source code ? Anybody working on one ?


  Marc
  marc@dwp.la.ca.us


-- 
                           Marc Hall    213-481-4735
                       Los Angeles Dept. of Water & Power
                              marc@dwp.la.ca.us
From: kcb@post.its.mcw.edu (Kent C. Brodie)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: tin, and "Article xxx unavailable"
Date: 29 Dec 1992 08:38:21 -0600
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin  (Milwaukee, WI)
NNTP-Posting-Host: post.its.mcw.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


I have two "tin" questions.

1) I am suddently starting to see many many 'Article xxx unavailable'
   messages.   I.e., tin is keeping the subject index around, and
   is not expiring these when they should be?   (I'm running tind)

   The articles in question indeed are NOT there-- properly expired by
   INN.

   Has anyone else seen this?  what do I check?

2) minor gripe-- when I use tin and "vi", vi opens the file ".article"
   in READ ONLY mode.  How do I get around this?

thanks for ANY help.....

-- 
--------------
Kent C. Brodie - Sr. Systems/Network Manager		brodie@post.its.mcw.edu
Information Technology Systems
Medical College of Wisconsin				(414) 257-8769
From: kcb@post.its.mcw.edu (Kent C. Brodie)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: why "vi" comes up [read only] in tin????
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:45:17 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin  (Milwaukee, WI)
NNTP-Posting-Host: post.its.mcw.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


I am using tin (PL7), and have a weird problem.  Anyone entering "vi"
(for posting an article, for instance) goes into READ MODE.

"/usr2/staff/kcb/.article" [Read only] 6 lines, 74 characters".

Same for following up, too.

The only way to get around this is FORCING a write when done.
(e.g., wq!).

Does anyone know why this might be happening?  It's causing
our users tons of grief........

-- 
--------------
Kent C. Brodie - Sr. Systems/Network Manager		brodie@post.its.mcw.edu
Information Technology Systems
Medical College of Wisconsin				(414) 257-8769

-- 
--------------
Kent C. Brodie - Sr. Systems/Network Manager		brodie@post.its.mcw.edu
Information Technology Systems
Medical College of Wisconsin				(414) 257-8769
From: barker@eneli (Scott Barker)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: tin flame
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:22:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

I don't know about everyone else, but I've just about had it with Tim.

Tim, if you don't like the way Iain changes things in tin, don't use it. If
you are so desperate to do things your way, write your own damn newsreader.
Otherwise, shut up and enjoy the fact that Iain has written a wonderful
program.

Keep up the good work Iain!

--
Scott Barker
barker@enel.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,bit.listserv.ibmtcp-l,bit.listserv.vm-util
From: Carl.von.Loesch@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Carl von Loesch)
Subject: Re: NNR/VM version 1.3.1 (Announcement)
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:00:18 GMT

NNRPROD@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Paul Campbell) writes:
>NNR (S_1.3.0) and (R_1.3.0) update announcement.
> 
>Network News Reader/VM (NNR) is a client implementation of Network
>News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) a.k.a RFC 977.  NNR can give VM users
>interactive access to a wide variety of bulletin boards, digests and
>interest groups.
> 
>SPECIAL THANKS:
>    Arty Ecock @ City University New York
>    Ken Hornstein @ Pennsylvania State University
> 
>*****************************************************************
>many thanks to the University of Stuttgart and the
>Instituto Tecnologico de Monterrey for the anonymous ftp
>-----------
>Anonymous FTP to VMTECQRO.QRO.ITESM.MX or 132.254.90.1
>CD NNR
> 
>8:00-23:00 CST Mon. to Fri.
>9:00-16:00 CST Sat. & Sun.
>-----------
>FTP rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de or 129.69.1.12
>cd /soft/kommunikation/news/beginner/software/nnr
>-----------
> 
>   source.vers130 - nnr sequenced source and support files
>   updates.vers131  - individual updates
>   nnrrxtcp.vers131 - nnr with rextcpip
>   nnrrxsoc.vers131 - nnr with rxsocket (requires fal version 2)
>   nnrrxtcp.noas131 - nnr (without rextcpip)
>   nnrrxsoc.noas131 - nnr (without rxsocket) (requires fal version 2)
>   nnrdocs.vers131 - nnr users guide (script and postscript)
> 
> 
>the above mentioned files are in a punch format and the following
>procedure will unpack them.
> 
>       SPOOL PUN *
>       PUNCH Filename Filetype <fm> ( NOH
>       ORDER RDR <spid>
>       READCARD * * <fm>
> 
>use the command "gnnrx" to generate the rxsocket version and
>"gnnrt" for the rextcpip version from source.vers130 and
>updates.vers130.
> 
>In NNR exec:
>   set variable ipaddr : ip address
>                mailer : mail machine
>          organization : your organization
>              thisnode : yournode.yourdomain
> 
>   make appropriate update for link to production tcpmaint 592
>   make appropriate update for printing
> 
>See "NNR SAMPLEFX" - update, make changes to this file for your site
>and file it as "NNR SITEFIX".

Lust zu Installieren? :)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman )
Subject: Re: DESIGN DISCUSSION: The reference line is deficient
Organization: ASU, Valley of the Sun(s), AZ
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 15:34:08 GMT

markz@ssc.com (Mark Zenier) writes:

)1) Some people see no use for Reference lines and discard them.
)The moderator of comp.dcom.telecom for one.

I mailed Patrick Townson (moderator - comp.dcom.telecom) about the
References header not being preserved and he says that acc. to a
decision made sometime in the past only a few headers are preserved
for the mailing list (which is exploded later for comp.dcom.telecom) and he
doesn't get to see the References line when he gets down to approving
the items for the digest. So if the mailing list members don't object
perhaps we may be able to convince him to have it in the digest.

This is ok for newsreader-generated followups but what happens for
MUA-generated replies. Is Usenet going to dictate the behavior of
MUAs?

)Mark Zenier  markz@ssc.wa.com  

Sridhar.
--
Sridhar Venkataraman			sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
From: woods@robohack.UUCP (Greg A. Woods)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Performance Problems with RN 4.4
Summary: Geoff Collyer's hash routines help greatly!
Date: 25 Dec 92 21:13:49 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc.

In article <1992Dec24.210640.7839jp@tygra.Michigan.COM> jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:
> RN is now unacceptably slow, especially when adding new groups.
> It can take 5 minutes of real time to add 5 new groups to the 
> active file. 

I'm not sure exactly what you mean here -- do you mean it takes a long
time to scan the active file for new groups?

Rn has been unacceptably slow for a very long time on a wide variety
of machines.

> Is there some way to tweak the performance of RN? (Ie: Hash table
> size selection)??

If you mean what I think you mean, then yes, Geoff Collyer posted a
set of patches and hash table routines here early in the year:

	From: geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer)
	Newsgroups: news.software.readers
	Subject: rn and trn "bogus newsgroups" drastic speed up
	Message-ID: <BMD8yK.BEA@world.std.com>
	Date: 8 Apr 92 01:47:07 GMT
	Organization: Software Tool & Die Netnews Research Center

They make rn bearable again, and reduce the time to handle the "bogus"
newsgroup problem to a tiny fraction of what it once was, and make
several other things a little faster, while slowing down startup and
increasing memory requirements only slightly.

The complete set of routines is available by ftp from world.std.com.

If or when they get incorporated into rn-4.4 is up to the whim of the
current maintainer.  I've been building a patched version of rn-4.4.3,
complete with these routines, and necessary portability patches for
things like AIX-3.2, which will soon be available by annonymous UUCP
from my machine too.  (And my changes will *again* be forwarded to the
maintainer too!)

As you might notice in the above "Subject:" header, these routines
also work wonders on trn-2.2.
-- 
						Greg A. Woods

woods@robohack.UUCP, woods@Elegant.COM  VE3TCP	UniForum Canada & ECI
+1 416 443-1734 [home] +1 416 362-XRSA [work]	Toronto, Ontario; CANADA
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: Where can I get Tin (latest version) by FTP?
Originator: erodrigu@tolten
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:34:51 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <6746@tuegate.tue.nl>, tgcpwd@rwc.urc.tue.nl (Wim van Dorst) writes:
> Hello *,
> 
> I have some small trouble with my old copy of Tin 1.1.6, which may well
> be solved in newer releases. I tried to locate Tin on the most obvious
> archives (even used archie) but I couldn't find it.
> 
> Where is the latest version (I believe 1.1.8) FTPable from?
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim `Blue Baron' van Dorst
> -- 

FTP sites that carry the latest version of tin are:

   Reference site:  
     [192.76.144.129]  ftp.Germany.EU.net:pub/news/tin

   Mirror sites:
     [146.169.2.1]     src.doc.ic.ac.uk:computing/usenet/software/readers/tin
     [131.210.1.4]     ftp.uwp.edu:pub/tin

Note: The reference site is in Germany (europe). The mirror sites are in the
       UK & USA respectively.

edo...

 ////  Fortuna mia la de             ```\  .     Eduardo Rodriguez     .
 c-OO  concurrir aqui, por           OO-c   .  erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl   .
    \  virtud de la palabra.         /     . Dpto Cs de la Computacion .
   -                         *bow*    -     .   Universidad de Chile    .
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
Subject: Re: DESIGN DISCUSSION: The reference line is deficient
Date: 31 Dec 1992 21:53:37 -0500
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: jamal.warren.mentorg.com

In <TRSNYDER.92Dec31103753@vf0031.mcs.drexel.edu> trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.192721.2264@ssc.com> markz@ssc.com (Mark Zenier) writes:

>   1) Some people see no use for Reference lines and discard them.
>   The moderator of comp.dcom.telecom for one.

>comp.dcom.telecom is a gateway for the Telecom Digest, a mailing list.
>Reference lines are inappropriate for a mailing list.

Oh really?  The gateway software that I wrote does a pretty creative job
of building a References: header.  As gateway software and mail software
advances, it should be possible to improve the situation considerably.

My basic (and very creative, I might add) algorithm is:
1 -- set $ref to the contents of any "References:" line, or "".
2 -- If there is a "In-Reply-To:" header, add that message-id to the
references line.
3 -- If the message begins, "^In \S* <message-id>" then add that too.
4 -- Remove any duplicate message-id's (just in case).
5 -- If $ref is empty, don't output a "References:" line.

#3 isn't implemented yet, but will be in the next rev. (the software
isn't available publicly right now, but will be in the future).

Pretty simple.  If the user is using Elm their message will be attached
to the thread.  Other mail readers are catching up.

If my gateway can do it, why can't others?

>There will always be some articles that just don't fit.  But if you set a
>standard, these articles will dimish in numbers.  And once they are a
>small minority, you could always set up a newsserver in fascist mode. :-)

So you want 100% of the mail & netnews systems to change, rather than
have the few broken systems be fixed?

Tom
-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) -- tal@plts.uucp (play)

Unix is a trademark of, WHATT????
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis )
Subject: Re: News --> PC (offline reader)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:01:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.194131.1@tesla.njit.edu> kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>Path: news.cis.umn.edu!umn.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!stanford.edu!rutgers!njitgw.njit.edu!tesla.njit.edu!kpm8447
>From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
>Newsgroups: news.software.readers
>Subject: News --> PC (offline reader)
>Message-ID: <1992Dec30.194131.1@tesla.njit.edu>
>Date: 31 Dec 92 00:41:31 GMT
>Sender: news@njit.edu
>Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology
>Lines: 20
>Nntp-Posting-Host: tesla
>I'm sure this is posted in the wrong spot and will get flamed for it.
>
>I've been trying (looking) for a way to read newsgroups offline on a pc.
>I'd like to use an equivalent to bbs programs like bluewave.  The idea
>is to compress all the unread news into a packet, transfer it to the pc
>via modem.  Read and reply offline taking as much time as wanted then
>repacking the replies and uploading them to the news.  I'm reading
>news on a unix account running "nn" news reader.  Is there a FAQ on how
>to do this, I'm no unix guru and know very little of networks and the
>way newsgroup data is stored.  Please help me!  I've been searching for over
>a year now.
>(sorry for the plea and possible misposting)
>- thanks in advance
>

Peter Tattam is considering including the ability to do batch reads in a 
future version of Trumpet. 
---------

Eric Forbis      forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu
Xref: sparky news.software.readers:2618 news.software.b:3658
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
Subject: Re: DESIGN DISCUSSION: The reference line is deficient
Date: 31 Dec 1992 10:42:35 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In <TRSNYDER.92Dec31103753@vf0031.mcs.drexel.edu> trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder) writes:
>Reference lines are inappropriate for a mailing list.
Why in the world would you say -- or believe -- something like that?
Reference lines would be particularly invaluable for a mail program
that could split up digests and kill off the parts that I don't care about.
	/r$
From: heiser@acs.bu.edu (William Heiser)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: saving multiple articles using 'rn'
Date: 1 Jan 93 00:06:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: heiser@acs.bu.edu


In 'nn', it is possible to save multiple articles to filenames
like file.nn, file.nm, etc by using the 'S' command.  How does one
do something similar with 'rn'?

bill
From: mmjjmm@post.its.mcw.edu (Michael Malloy)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Text editing in tin
Date: 27 Dec 1992 19:57:16 -0600
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin  (Milwaukee, WI)
NNTP-Posting-Host: post.its.mcw.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


What is the easiest text editor to use with the tin newsgroup reader?

.


Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: david@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (David Mills)
Subject: List of PC newsreaders, please...
Summary: Looking for list of PC newsreaders
Keywords: newsreaders
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:46:01 GMT

Dear NetFolks:

This sounds like a real candidate for a FAQ, but since I can't find any such 
critter in news.answers for this group, I'll put my courage to the sticking
point and ask-away...

One of my users wants to start sampling the delights of UseNet but lacks SW and
setup info. Is there a list someplace of newsreaders for PC-based systems? I
am familiar with rn and nn on UNIX machines. Are there PC versions? Maybe I 
should simply ask for recommendations on where to go to research this whole 
business. 

Thanks in advance for your help!

-- 
--- david@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov --------------------------------------------------
David Mills    :-{)}        Jet Propulsion Laboratory             Pasadena, CA
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b,news.software.nntp
From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman )
Subject: Re: $NAME and trn, inn inews, NNTP inews, Cnews inews
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Organization: ASU, Valley of the Sun(s), AZ
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:41:03 GMT

[Followups directed to news.software.readers]

markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby) writes:

)Trn defines the env var NAME as overriding the full user name contained in
)/etc/passwd.  We use this to allow multiple posters to share the same login
)ID.  This worked fine when using trn with the Cnews inews and the NNTP 1.5.11
)inews. However, I just recently converted to INN and its inews, and the
)NAME feature stopped working.
)
)Investigation into the trn side of things shows that no From: header gets 
)passed to the desired inews.  Instead, trn apparently relies on inews (or its
)descendants) to generate a default From: header.

This may be of help. Try setting the variable RNINIT along with the
NAME setting (setenv RNINIT <file>) and in <file> do all the env
settings for the following variables (refer manual for details).
Change user@machine to the proper email address. Make sure that the
user can cancel his/her posting once they use this. These settings
assume that inews doesn't change the From line. Recent versions of
inews seem to add the Originator header when there is a From line.

---CUT HERE----
-ENEWSHEADER="\
From: user@machine (%N)
Subject: Re: %S
Distribution: %D
Organization: %o
Newsgroups: %F

"

-EMAILHEADER="\
From: user@machine (%N)
To: %t
Subject: Re: %S
Cc: 
Bcc:

"
---END HERE---

Sridhar.
--
Sridhar Venkataraman			sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
Xref: sparky news.software.readers:2634 news.software.b:3673
From: ccsis@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Icarus Sparry)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
Subject: Re: DESIGN DISCUSSION: The reference line is deficient
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:43:20 GMT
Organization: University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
>
>X-Root: would be a useless header.  Netnews software should assume that
>the first message-id on the References: line is the root.

And the last thing we want is yet another useless header. If nothing else
take pity on us poor people with only a finite amount of bandwidth and
finite amounts of disk space (i.e. almost all of us). 

I use 'newsclip' as the main method of long-term killing. It is quite
happy to keep a database of all the messages in a tree, and kill if
a reference is made to any of them. It can then timeout a reference
if no references are made to it (:-)) in a period. My one runs just
before I normally arrive at work, so I can start my news-reading
knowing that all the kills have already been processed.

I strongly recommend it to anyone who is sophisticated enough to worry
about killing threads.  To quote from the blurb (just in case anyone
has been put off getting it as it was originally posted as share-ware)
=>NewsClip is also available free for non commercial use to non-subscribers.
=>You can ftp it from uunet:~/vendor/ClariNet/nc.tar.Z
Newsgroups: news.software.readers