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From: holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: ?!?!?!
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:12:42 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Wow, it's amazing what will happen when you don't read your regular newsgroup
for a while.  Looks like I missed out on the fun.

						Charles Holt
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: Finals Sites
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:35:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.114635.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> streuer_d@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
*
*Also, since there is a concentration of corps in the East, fans can see
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*multiple shows with a short drive.  We westerners are left with our
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^
*one annual event leave alone a national show.
*
*Oh, well..... 

Come on.  There are far more corps concentrated in California than the East
(And notice the "East" here does not include the "Midwest" ie: Madison,
Star, etc.)  I lived in Rhode Island for 18 years and have been in South
and North Carolina for the past 5.  I get to see a WHOPPING 2 or 3 shows
a year, and at that, I have to drive between 2 and 5 _hours_ to get to them
and these are local-yocal shows, not DCI East or South Finals.  We usually
get no more than 2 (perhaps 3) open class corps at a single show.

So stop complaining, we all don't get as much as we'd like.....


-- 
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Math Graduate Student
N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
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From: pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Jackson weather (was Who's not going to Jackson)
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:49:52 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

In article <1992Oct12.162540.7549@iscsvax.uni.edu> phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Don't you mean '89?.....88 was the *first* year of KC (sorry to nit-pick!)

Yeah I realized that after I sent it out.....I was waiting to get another
BZZZZZT from Scott. :-)

>I don't know about you, but I froze to death in Madison this year (not to
>speak of Dekalb!!!)....people on tour don't often bring more than one
>sweatshirt, and usually don't have money by finals to buy warm clothes.
>Wanting to look nice for once in the tour, I opted to freeze. (Fortunately I
>had my heavy duty bus blanket)

Yeah...there are no guarantees. You go with the prevailing conditions.

>The report I get is that the volcano ash that is in the air and causing this
>cold weather will be there for the next 4 years. It might be pretty darn
>decent in Jackson.

The volcanos have been doing their thing for a while.  How warm/cold was The
South this summer? (Willard?)

>Anyone know how to kill humidity?

Yes. Locate youself in the inner part of a major land mass and place a range
of mountains between yourself and the major sources of atmospheric moisture.
Have the mountains squeegie most of the water out before the weather systems
ever get to you.

It works marvelously well for the Colorado Front Range. In my book, there
is no nicer weather anywhere in the US.

>Brooke

--phil
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: randy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Randy Feldman)
Subject: 1993 Season
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:32:12 GMT


I'm wondering if anybody knows where (and when) any of the following shows are
going to be held (or is it just too darn early and DCI doesn't even know yet):

	DCI North
	Preview of Champions
	DCI Mid-America

Thanks in advance!

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: SFINE00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Fineman, Stephen Elliot)
Subject: Re: drill (was Re: Creativity vs. Execution)
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:33:30 GMT

In article <splooie.718341980@cs1.bradley.edu>
splooie@cs1.bradley.edu (Romeo Casiple) writes:
 
>of is the little clip they showed of Crossmen in this years telecast.  They do
>this one move where a curved form is moving backwards and another curved form
>has to do a pass through them near the front side line.  There's a guy in the
>forward moving form I'll bet for sure was guiding to the people moving backwards.  He wound up aiming for wrong hole, & almost smacked into another
>guy because
>he was in his set.  If he were thinking, "Okay, my set is 3 1/2 inside the 40..
>I need to be there", he'd be in the right place.. but instead he wound up maybe
>1 1/2 steps inside the 40 because he wasn't paying attention to the field
>markings.  And when tempos are moving 180+, there's no time for recovery.
>
>Guiding relative to other people is fine during rehearsal.. you can just
>no-brain the whole thing all day, thinking "Oh yeah, I gotta go through the guy
>in the red shorts and the guy in the fushia shorts.. and here I gotta be
>next to the guy in the mauve hair in this move.. " etc.. but what about in
>the show when everybody's wearing the same hat and same uniform?  You can't
>tell who's who.
 
  Beside the personal interest I took in this post (yeah Bones) it demonstrates
the point I tried to make in an earlier post.  Yes, it is extremely difficult
to clean drill with curved paths and members guiding off of each other.  But
without that, members would have crashed into one another.  At the end of
"Appalachian Morning" is a section of drill called the "juggernaut".  It's not
shown on the video (a shot of the drum line during really cool drill - oh well)
, but it involves high-speed pass-throughs.  Everyone had to take a fixed path
and know exactly where to go.  But if a person said, "I'm going to my dot over
there," people would be on the ground.  I know - I took a fall when we first
learned the new drill in July."
                                     -Steve
From: dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Prodigy News
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:16:33 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:

> In article <1bepdpINN3fh@bigboote.wpi.edu>, ddm@wpi.wpi.edu (David D Marshall
> wrote:
>  
> |>Who is Don Pescione?  Maybe I could <get> a good shot in :).
>  
> To which Ken Dowzycki replied
> |>He's the head of DCI (Executive Director)
>  
> Oh, David, are you writing that you have a Prodigy account?  Do tell?
> If so, do you know how to get a message from the internet to Prodigy?
> All you have to do is upload a file; I'm sure downloading it on wpi is
> no problem.  If you can there are at least two of us who want to send
> postings in and two more of us (Willard, Phil, are you reading?) who
> should.
>  
> Vince

Of course, I'm here... I'm interested in a link to Prodigy, if only in 
support of better communication between various drum corps elements, 
i.e., between those on Prodigy and those on the Usenet.  Otherwise, I 
have no interest in being subjugated to any of Prodigy's purported 
cencorship actions.  Just as a matter of principle; you understand, I'm 
sure --- it's common knowledge that I'm an old stick-in-the-mud.

I remember seeing references some short time ago of a soon-to-be 
implemented Internet gateway to Prodigy.. is this email only?  How would 
Prodigy conferences by routinely "echoed" on this or other Usenet groups? 
It might be possible for an Internet host to gate a Prodigy mailing-list 
into our newsgroup; this would require zero new software, assuming that 
their conference might be accessible as an Internet mailing list....

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dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: re:Jackson weather (was Who's not going to Jackson)
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:25:40 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <BvzGw9.16t@csn.org>, pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
> In article <1baesbINNnqq@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall) writes:
> 
> Other cities should be eliminated, too. Incredibly, DCI was going to 
> return to La Stade Olympique in Montreal for 1988. Sound quality was bad
> enough before the dome was completed on this stadium. Fortunately, MLB
> nixed that option by scheduling baseball games for the Expos that week;
> we had to "endure" KC for a second year.

Don't you mean '89?.....88 was the *first* year of KC (sorry to nit-pick!)

> 
>>If a large number of 'DCI regulars' skip this year, then of course
>>there won't be another Worlds there.  I agree that the weather isn't as
>>comfortable as the air conditioning when I watch the broadcast, but it's
>>Summer.  The night of Finals last year was a very comfortable temperature
>>in Georgia, so you really can't automatically assume that the weather will
>>be unbelievably hot.

I don't know about you, but I froze to death in Madison this year ( not to
speak of Dekalb!!!)....people on
tour don't often bring more than one sweatshirt, and usually don't have money
by finals to buy warm clothes. Wanting to look nice for once in the tour, I
opted to freeze. (Fortunately I had my heavy duty bus blanket)

The report I get is that the volcano ash that is in the air and causing this
cold weather will be there for the next 4 years. It might be pretty darn decent
in Jackson.

> 
> Yeah, Georgia was fine. I actually rode a bike to/from a friend's house
> about 12 miles away for a couple of days of championship week. Temperature
> by itself isn't too bad; temperature plus humidity is the killer. I may
> vote to avoid 90/90 cities....
> 

Anyone know how to kill humidity?

Brooke
Colts '89-'93
Mellophone
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Flaming at DCI
Date: 9 Oct 1992 12:06:33 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Many of you have been flaming at DCI's selection of Jackson MS for the
next finals site.  What good does it do you to flame on alt.drumcorps
(other than venting your spleen, itself a necessary, albeit unpleasant,
process) when the people responsible *are not reading*?  They are on
that corporate-controlled (and landlocked :-( ) network Prodigy.
Is there anyway to get our views into Prodigy without having to support
IBM and Sears in their commercial venture that discourages rocking the
boat?  I'm all for a little subversion of the strong editorial control
in Prodigy.  How about the rest of you?
 
Vince
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry)
Subject: Re: Drum Solo Solutions
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:13:49 GMT

R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:

>If you have the transcription, please send it to me (R.Vincent.Lamb@
>um.cc.umich.edu) along with a key to understand the notation (I didn't
>read the newsgroup for 2 weeks and the relevant posting must have expired
>before I read it).  I'll copy it off and send it to the North Star Alumni
>Newsletter to see if the drummers recognize it.

I second this.  Maybe a key for this notation belongs in the FAQ (Donald,
are you out there?)

I have a couple of favorite licks that I would like to post, but I let
the article expire without saving the notation.

(I *really* like playing the "guess this lick" game, I actually got a
couple of them.)

Later,
Bob

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From: fath1@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Communicating with Prodigy and Mailing lists
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:59:24 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct15.121856.28772@ncsu.edu> jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>*I remember seeing references some short time ago of a soon-to-be 
>*implemented Internet gateway to Prodigy.. is this email only?  How would 
>                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^
>YES.  At present, Prodigy is "giving in" to demands to have a link for
>EMAIL purposes.  However, with the nature of Prodigy, there will (probably)
>be no News linking to their Bulletin Boards.  
>
>*Prodigy conferences by routinely "echoed" on this or other Usenet groups? 
>*It might be possible for an Internet host to gate a Prodigy mailing-list 
>*into our newsgroup; this would require zero new software, assuming that 
>*their conference might be accessible as an Internet mailing list....
>
>Yes, it would be possible to assemble a mailing list and send ALL articles
>to people on the list...
>
I like this idea and have been looking into ways to open the drumcorps
discussion to people without UseNet access.  There is a gateway that people
can use to post articles to UseNet groups that I recently discovered and
am testing.  You do it by sending mail to:
alt.drumcorps.usenet@decwrl.dec.com

Now, how can we get the mail sent to the non-UseNet people?  Assemble a mailing
list and send all articles I guess.

DJ, who is on the OTL mailing list?  Maybe we could start to send alt.drumcorps
messages to those on the list who don't get UseNet?


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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Who's not going to go to Jackson?
From: <MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 10:36:12 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <1687A1079A.SFINE00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, SFINE00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU
(Fineman, Stephen Elliot) says:
>
>In article <92281.114432MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET>
><MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
>>An alternative to Buffalo might be Giants Studium at the Meadowlands, NYC.
>
>First of all, the Meadowlands is in New Jersey.
 
I am well aware of this. It is in metro NYC though, yes?  (By the same token,
Kansas City is in Missouri, not Kansas...at least the KC we drumcorps fans
care about.)
 
>But the acoustics at Giants Stadium are horrible.
 
I wasn't aware of this, however.  I hereby retract my earlier suggestion.
 
Even though Cincinnati is one of the proposed sites for the 1993 POC and it
is right down the pike from me, I don't want to see it there, because it
would have to be held in Riverfront Stadium....reknown for crappy acoustics.
Go back to Nashville!!!  That was a nice stadium (except for all the Coke
running through the aisles....but I digress.  Hell, I'm starting to sound
like Willard Dawson...I'd better shut up. :)
 
Mike Hughes
 
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rbeckham@bnr.ca (Rick Beckham)
Subject: Re: 27th
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:24:39 GMT


  I marched with two seven in 1981, arguably their best year. 27th was	
inovative because of George Zingali, who left 27 to join Garfield in
either 83 or 84. Without him, two seven only had a drumline to contend	
with (the horn line was the major reason 27 never fulfilled the dream
of being the first east coast corp to win). 
  After Zingali left the corp dwindled to two 13th place finishes in a
row, and I lost track after that. I think the folded shortly after due
to lack of funds (always a problem with an eastern corp), and internal
strife between management and instructors.
  I received a newsletter a short while ago explaining that there will be
a 27 alumni reunion, I think in Nov, somewhere in Cape Cod.
From: lmm18@po.CWRU.Edu (Lisa M. Macharoni)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Re : BOA
Date: 16 Oct 1992 00:13:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Hello to everyone!  I just discovered alt.drumcorps today and am
thrilled!!!  I marched (high school) the past two years with
Carroll High School in Dayton, Ohio as a member of their guard -
I know that they are going to regionals in Johnson City, Tenn.
this weekend.  If I can get the results, I'll let you know.

I totally agree that marching band was a fabulous experience!
Keep posting news on the high school aspect as well as on drum
corps.

This winter I'm marching with a world class winterguard - any
WGI fans out there?  If so, let me know: lmm18@po.cwru.edu

                                            Lisa
From: ck10322@china.medtronic.com (Cameron Kaszas)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Jackson Stadium and 1993 show designs.
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:18:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Medtronic, Inc., Minneapolis, MN

At the risk of sounding smug ...
       
Well, what kind of pressbox does a cluttered drill work for? ;^)

- Cam
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: streuer_d@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Finals Sites
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:46:35 GMT

If I remember correctly, DCI was once held in Denver back in '78.  I thought
that was the start of something since the first drumcorp show ever shown
in Denver was in '71 and getting the nationals so quickly I thought for sure
it would turn into a standard selection.
But, now even DATR only gets the Calif/WA corps when 
earlier shows somehow were able to bring in corps like Bridgemen, Madison.

I agree, the sites listed give no opportunity for the west.  Even Kansas
City would have been acceptable as a western site - it's at least west of      
the Mississippi!

Also, since there is a concentration of corps in the East, fans can see
multiple shows with a short drive.  We westerners are left with our
one annual event leave alone a national show.

Oh, well..... 
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Prodigy News
Date: 13 Oct 1992 18:08:29 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1bepdpINN3fh@bigboote.wpi.edu>, ddm@wpi.wpi.edu (David D Marshall)
wrote:
 
|>Who is Don Pescione?  Maybe I could <get> a good shot in :).
 
To which Ken Dowzycki replied
|>He's the head of DCI (Executive Director)
 
Oh, David, are you writing that you have a Prodigy account?  Do tell?
If so, do you know how to get a message from the internet to Prodigy?
All you have to do is upload a file; I'm sure downloading it on wpi is
no problem.  If you can there are at least two of us who want to send
postings in and two more of us (Willard, Phil, are you reading?) who
should.
 
Vince
From: niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Validation (was Re: DRUM CORPS IS STUPID)
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:26:06 GMT
Reply-To: niel@chinchilla.cars.com
Organization: Heavy Objects R Us
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Oct15.012226.7682@iscsvax.uni.edu> (alt.drumcorps), young7905@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>     I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS NEWSGROUP EVEN EXISTS.
>DRUM CORPS AND ANY OTHER TYPE OF MARCHING BAND ARE, IN MY OPINION, THE LOWEST
>FORM OF MUSICAL EXPRESSION THERE EVER HAS BEEN. I WOULD SOONER HAVE HANK
>WILLIAMS Jr. SING TO ME FOR HOURS THAN TO HERE ANOTHER DRUM CORPS PLAY A BAD
>TRANSCRIPTION OF NIGHT ON BALD MOUNTAIN EVER AGAIN.
>     LET'S JUST ADRESS THIS FOR A MOMENT. GREAT WORKS WRITTEN FOR AN ORCHESTRA
>WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY A BAND IN THE FIRST PLACE. HOWEVER, I HAVE
>HEARD SOME OKAY ONES PLAYED BY SOME GOOD COLLEGE BANDS. BUT THESE PIECES WERE
>ESPECIALLY NEVER MEANT TO BE PLAYED LOUDLY AND OUT OF TUNE, WHILE A HUNDRED
>PEOPLE DRESSED LIKE FOOLS MARCHED TO THEM.
>     FEEL FREE TO SEND COMMENTS TO YOUNG7905.ISCS.UNI.EDU
>
>

You know, it's a sure sign that a newsgroup has become generally accepted
when this kind of crap appears.

Cool!  We have validated our existence as newsgroup!

Niel

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From: cc0001@medtronic.COM (Christopher Carriero)
Subject: 27th
Summary: What ever happened?
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:13:30 GMT


In the mid-80's, I took a hiatus from Drum Corps (I stopped
following the happenings for a while).  

When I started to get involved again, I noticed the absence of 
the 27th Lancers.  I never got the
full story as to what ever happened to them.  

So, maybe some of you can fill me in.  I thought they were one 
of the most enjoyable and innovative corps ever.


-- Chris

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From: MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: 1992 DCI videos are out/review
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:37:39 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <9480@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, rlapham@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM
(Richard Lapham) says:
>
>MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET wrote:
>: I have my stereo VCR hooked up through a fairly high end system, so my
>: critique is about the hi-fi tracks.  I agree that the sound approaches
>: the quality of the CDs (and in some regards surpasses them, ref. my earlier
>: posts on CD audio quality), and also agree that the CDs are worthy of
>: acquisition due to the durability of the medium.
>:
>: Mike Hughes
>
>There are stereo VCR's and there are HI-FI Stereo VCR's  the latter have
>two extra heads for audio over the normal stereo VCR's and superior
>sound reproduction.  I've always said sound is 90% of drum corps.
 
Mine is a Sony hi-fi stereo VCR.  I use it almost exclusively for viewing
drum corps, except for the once-in-a-blue-moon tape rental.
 
I can't wait for DCI videos to be released on laserdisc.  Now THERE'S some
audio that will spoil you :).  Of course, given how long it took DCI to
get on the CD bandwagon (they didn't release CDs until 1988), don't look
forward to this anytime soon.
 
Mike Hughes
From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Jackson; Dome; and the West
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:37:36 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Oct10.025153.13869@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> sradeker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Radeker) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.101522.7371@iscsvax.uni.edu> phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>I march with the UNI band here and most of the time we battle time problems
>>from the horrible echo in there. 
>
>Excuse me, but why does the University of Nothern Iowa have a domed
>stadium?  I mean, I can only think of one school that uses a
>domed stadium (Minnesota) and that's not even theirs.

Saracuse also has a domed stadium of their own; it also functions as their
basketball stadium.  Just as a side note, I wonder how good the seats are
there?

>
>Scott
>
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