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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:22:08 -0400
From:         "Russell A. Potter" <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>
Subject:      covers

Songs I'd like to hear a band play in a bar? Hmmm.  I could make a long
list of songs I'm _sick_ of hearing played in a bar -- starting with covers
of the Beatles, the Stones, Creedence, the Dead, Led Zeppelin, etc. etc.
There are so many great veins of music that bar bands rarely mine, anything
from any of them would be a kick.

How about covering some Richard & Linda Thompson cuts?  Like "Sisters,"
"When I get to the border," "Shoot out the Lights," or "Withered and Died"
(Elvis Costello, for one, did a great cover of that last one) -- or of
Richard Thompson's excellent post-Linda oeuvre ("Keep Your Distance,"
"Grey Walls," "Mystery Wind," or "Mother KNows Best."?  How about covering
more of the folk-rock tradition that gets no airplay on "oldies" radio --
stuff by the Incredible String Band, Fairport Convention, early Joni Mitchell,
no-greatest-hits Dylan, Eric Andersen, Phil Ochs?  How about more of the
60's class R&B of Stax and Motown?  How about some DECENT instrumental
jamming along the lines of the Meters or Booker T and the MG's?  How about
some calssic 50's R&B like Louis Jordan?  Or covers of less well-known
blues classics like Little Junior Parker's "Drivin' Wheel," Roscoe Gordon's
"Just a Little Bit," or Muddy Waters' "Mean Red Spider"?

If I heard any of these songs played with reasonable skill by a bar band,
I'd have a lot more respect for bar bands -- would be much more likely
to go to a bar with live music if such a band played there . . .
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:20:44 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      alien spaceship soybean curd

   Just picked up the Flecktones latest CD for $10.  Also to be found,
but I didn't have the money, was Richard Thompson's Amnesia, and one
by Roland Rahsen Kirk, shoot I can't remember the name of it.  How's
Amnesia, anyone, and is there a Kirk album to avoid (or pick up at all
costs?).  I don't have any Kirk now, except Kirk does Lucy in the Sky
with Diamonds, no wait, that's the wrong Kirk.....

Russ
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:04:05 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Be a fool
              Beer" at Sep 9, 92 4:23 pm

>
> I always like what Blakey said to his bass player during one of the
> bassist's solos:  "Come on, Dennis, play like a fool.  Be a fool."
>
>
This is great--I've got to remember that!  I recently made a tape (YOW) for the
ROTCOD and talk about feeling like a fool... I felt like a TOTAL fool, but
finally I did get carried away with feeling like a fool..if there's no way you
can even compete with all the other hot dogs, and obviously I can't, you just
TOTALLY be a fool.

As William Blake used to say, "If the fool would persist in his folly he would
become wise."

(sorry I can't stop quoting--it's a sign of my advanced age)

For some reason your mention of Joe Henderson made me think of Byard Lancaster;
he once came to OSU and did a kind of open-class--it was TREMENDOUS!!!  Anybody
know if he's still recording, what he's up to?  (Lancaster)
(my favorite Joe Henderson is
something that was made up of four parts: "Fire," "Earth," "Air,"
"Water")--aha (what a fool I am)--it was called The Elements (I think).  Some
of the finest jazz I've heard.

Walter: regarding John Waters--he's quite thin so I was right on that; I
figured you were significantly taller than he is, so I was right on that too.
I sure wish EdD the MadD would come out of hiding again (what does it take,
EdD?) and do John Waters in verse...
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:03:19 GMT
From:         HAUGHD88@IRLEARN.UCD.IE
Subject:      re: need train song recommendations
              9 Sep 1992 15:45:35 EDT from <TJBARR01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:45:35 EDT Theresa Barr said:
>
>how bout -- "downtown train" -- Rod Stewart

Ah, but that's a Tom Waits song ! And, Tom does a *much* better version !

-- bjh
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:51:08 MEZ
From:         Paul Hosken <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      New Pat Metheny

Hey y'all,

   Anyone heard/got the new Pat Metheny disc? If so, how's about a quick
review or your opinion of it - great, shit, gutchurnin', etc.

Paul
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:57:07 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Page

I heard Jimmy Page has a solo album coming out in October.
Anyone know what it's gonna be like?


(Yes, I DO like Zeppelin.  Yes, I think they are extremely overrated.
But I also think that their combined sound was very special.
Page's session-man sound
Jonesy's Motown-based bass
Bonzo's "modified" James Brown/Motown drum technique.
Plant's banshee vox (at least, up until Houses of the Holy, when he started
  to lose his upper register--you can tell, cuz his voice sounds like
  it was recorded at a slower tape speed.  After Houses, his range was
  extremely limited, and he couldn't sing the early stuff--he suffers through
  "Black Dog" and "Over the Hills and Far Away" live.  Too Bad.  Maybe
  that's why Page is hooking up with another singer who sounds like early
  Plant for the next solo album.  Plant is pissed.)

I think Page should just stick to producing up-and-coming bands.
He spends a lot of time rehashing old solos he "pioneered".
I think he should pioneer some more if he's going to uphold his name
  as being an incredibly creative guitarist.
His big head is getting soft.

 3
M
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:47:57 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Power Trios

Mike spoke:

>Let me remind you that the Police was also a trio, though not really
>considered a "power trio" in any case.

	For Mike, or anybody. Just what is the definition of a
"power trio" anyway? As I'm reading your post, I'm at home listening
to my newly arrived "Kings's X" untitled CD, with the original
Atlantic Records record logo on the disk. How original!
	Anyway, I'm not being critical (I think?), but I've heard
King's X called a power trio, and after listing to them, it seems to me
that a lot of their power comes from the studio. Not that they're over-
produced, But, well, you get the idea. Overdubs (studio musicians?) etc.
I've never seen them live, so I don't know how they make up for the extra
instruments needed from time to time.

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:31:11 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: covers
              Gelinas" at Sep 8, 92 11:17 am

> so, I'm asking the allmighty Allmusic list:  Name a couple or 3 songs
> you'd like to hear covered by some no-name band in a bar.  The kind of
> songs that would make you stop your conversation and say "Hey, that's <name
>
>

Gloria
Sweet Alabama
Red House
Great Balls of Fire
Heartbreak Hotel
Sherry
Magic Bus
Johnnie-Be-Good
Mona
Duke of Earl
Spoonful
Rock Around the Clock
From: SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU (Scott Hammer)
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Date: 10 Sep 92 14:24:17 GMT
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On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:20:58 EDT Walter Keller said:
>
>Also, how about "True Religion" by Hot Tuna, off their Burgers album:
>"gonna get me a shotgun, one with 3 round balls, shoot anybody I don't like
>at all, like at all..."
>
I've always heard the lyrics as:

Give me my pistol, I said three round balls
Gonna shoot anbody I don't like at all
Like at all, like at all

Got a thirty-eight special on a forty-five frame
You can't touch me cause I've got dead aim
Got dead aim, Got dead aim

Et cetera

BTW, a number of the verses in "True Religion" are also in the song
"Railroad Bill."  Do you suppose that the above lyric is where the band
Thirty-Eight Special got their name?

-Scott "?" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:41:21 -0400
From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Billy Ray fever sweeps the colleges

The Billy Ray Cyrus number 1 fan says:
>In the college down the street; students was during the Acky Breaky while
>walking to their classes.  This is the worst case of Acky Breaky fever that I
>had ever seen.

Euthanasia is the kindest treatment you could apply to these poor lost souls.
8) 8) 8)

OMC: I was visiting a friend last week who lives with a grad student from
Japan. We got to discussing music, as I had noticed his Japanese release of
_In the Court of the Crimson King_. He had several Japanese discs and I was
asking him about the types of music that they played. He used the term "New
Wave" which I haven't heard used in several years. This leads me to the
question: When did "New Wave" become "Alternative"?

-Adam
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Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 22:30:09 EDT
From: K. Roper <ROPERK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
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Subject: Garrison Keeler

  Anyone out there know where I can find anything by Garrison Keeler?
   I heard "Grandmother's Cat" (parody of "Grandfather's Clock") on Gzowski
   this morning and nearly ruined some perfectly good upholstery :>

  Please help a distraught soul :>

  ------
  Kim (roperk@qucdn.queensu.ca)

  This sig is experiencing technical difficulties.  Please do not adjust
   your set.
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:33:03 CST
From:         "RichardClawson, S.J." <CLAWSON@LOYNOVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Local Scene
              8 Sep 1992 11:37:48 CDT from <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>

Birmingham has also spawned a young musician known as Aven.  He is half of the
group called "Cages"  which recently released its debut album on the Capitol
label earlier this year.  They have already appeared on Leno once and are
schedules to make three more appearances - the next one on Sept. 23rd.  Cages
is something of a band in search of a style, but the talent undoubtedly exists.
 I'd say check 'em out.
 RDC,SJ
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:17:26 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      twisted covers

Mike M.,
   Sounds like your band and mine have (had) similar twisted sensibilities.
We also do "unusual" cover versions - reggae TV themes, hyperspeed punk
versions of things like Puff the Magic Dragon, and of course, our own
Dr.Demento wannabe's like "Refried Beans", or "My Friend, Giardia".

   Scary thought that there's others like us out there.

Russ
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:22:17 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Lite Classics

There was an interesting article in today's Detroit Free Press:  Bobby McFerrin
and Yo-Yo Ma will be in concert tonight with the Detroit Symphony Orchestra.
They will be performing movements of cello concertos by Haydn and Lalo
(McFerrin will be conducting the DSO).  They will also do the Vivaldi
Concerto for Two Cellos with McFerrin singing one of the cello parts and e
selections from their new album together.  The Free Press critic is calling
this "Lite Classical" and wrote these observations:

"The McFerrin-Ma collaboration is the latest example of the so-called
'crossover', a form of classical lite that brings together music and musicians
from supposedly disparate styles. The crossover phenomenon is not new:  It
goes as far back at least as Palestrina, the 16th Century polyphonic master
who based one of his most praised sacred masses on a pop tune of his day"

He goes on to cite present day examples of this "phenomenon", such as
Luciano Pavorotti singing lite arias at huge arenas "where rock stars
regularly spew forth", sales of Sony's "Dinner Classics" reaching the
millions, and some people thinking they have experienced opera by attending
"Les Miserables" and "Phantom of the Opera".

Finally, this critic (who, by the way, looks like Fred Flinstone) summarizes
his opinions of this trend:

"Listening to Ma and McFerrin toddle through brief bits of Bach in bubbly
arrangements can be delightful, but it can't compare with (or substitute for)
the life-changing experince Ann Arbor audiences had in 1991 when they heard
Ma perform three of Bach's Suite's for Unaccompanied Cello. . .And while
your eyes may tear up a bit while listening to Jean Valjean sing 'Bring Him
Home' in 'Les Miserables', they'll overflow when you watch Puccini's Madame
Butterfly wait silently for her husband's return during the offstage
Humming Chorus (from which 'Bring Him Home' was stolen, almost note for note)".


O.K. Folks, let's get that commentary/opinion train a rollin'!!
What do ya'll think about this trend?


Michelle
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:17:20 -0400
From:         "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: The Return of the Unconstipated Mailer

The finally unconstipated Carol said:

>Oh... so... you're a yuppie with a sculptured haircut then... do you drive
>a Saab like T-bass too?  ;)

No, my wife cuts my hair, twice a year, and sculptured is not even close.
Can't afford a Saab; I've got a Toyota with 170,000 miles.  I'm a puppie,
Poor urban pro.

If you really wanna know what I look like, imagine Clapton crossed with
Richard Thompson with Jim Morrison's hair (sort of) and a guitarists
nose, if you follow me.  Musically, I don't sound like any of them.

>Shame on you, Russ... you passed up RT.  How could you?  ;)

Well, I was hoping to go back the next day and pick up both the RT and
the Kirk CD's, but I had to ugh, *work*, and didn't get a chance.  Bela
et. al. is a great CD though, I really like the banjo work.  Some of the
percussion gets tiresome though....

>_Pour Down Like Silver_ is still my favorite Richard Thompson release.

Thanks, I'll look for that one.

>>   Lately I've been thinking about doing something by Peter Gabriel.
>I am willing,
>I am ready
>I believe
>Lay you hands on me!
>*hint* *hint*

Are you talking about a song, or .... ;-)  I'd love to do the backwards
freefall, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

>Who the hell is this mystery hippy band you're referring to??

Hmm. They're name is Lichen.  Don't ask me why, something to do with
rolling stones.  Drummer Bill joined them first, then I joined them for
about 6 months, long enough to learn that the leader/guitarist/singer
had an ego to make his 300 lb. girth.  Bill still plays with them, but
Mr. Ego has a number of other projects, so Lichen doesn't play out too
often.  They do Dead/Feat/Band type of stuff; the college Deadheads think
they're great, but really they suck.

Russ
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:55:06 EDT
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From:         Francois Boulet <UQPSGFB@UQSS.UQUEBEC.CA>
Subject:      Byrne

David Byrne was in Montreal a month ago. don't know
anything else

Francois
uqpsgfb@uqss.uquebec.ca
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:36:50 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Quartet/Gospel

On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:06:48 EDT Michelle May said:
>While reading the recent postings about how to get rid of band members who
>don't contribute:  I'm going through a similar situation in one of the string
>quartets that I regularly play in (bad grammar).  The first violinist doesn't
>like the cello player's style of playing and I have to say I tend to agree.
>We have had some discussions about the best way to "dispose" of her--the main
>problem is we don't have a suitable replacement in mind.  We are trying to
>
What does the cellist say when you approach problems of style with her (you
*have* discussed the problem with her, right?)?  Because it looks as if you
are stuck with trying to make this person work with/for you. . .
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:50:37 EDT
From:         Walter Keller <WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      True Religion

I stand corrected on the lyrics, but I still think the song is worthy.
Russ, sorry you can't do Feat. Not even a Featish "44 Blues"? I didn't
mean to offend by the power trio image, it's just I was trying to think
of songs that don't require that many instruments/female singers/keyboards,
etc. How about "Highway 61", as done by Dylan or J. Winter ?? Or how about
anything by J. Winter ??

Carry on , have fun...

                           ... wck ...
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:14:08 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NON-MUSIC post re: Birmingham, Ala
              14 Sep 1992 11:05:23 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:05:23 EDT Sonia Kovitz said:
>Since two of our netters are from B'ham I thought it was my civic duty to post
>this story from the Weekly World News:
>
>Hoochie-Coochie queen Hazel Henderson bills herself as "The Flabulous Miss H."
>wages and tips in Birmingham, Ala.... "The guys who come here go absolutely
>crazy.  To hear them scream and cheer you'd think she was the best-looking gal
>on Earth.  Every patron in the club is willing to spend whatever it takes to
>keep her in her clothes."
>make a career for herself on stage.  All that changed when she went to a beer
>hall's "amateur night" and got up to strip on a dare.  "When I started
> Then they started throwing money and shouting, 'Keep it ON, Keep it ON."  By
>the time my routine was over I had raked in $75.  I knew right then and there
>that I could make money as a stripper."
> The owner is't sure why Miss Henderson is such a big draw but he does have a
>theory.  "Strip clubs can get awfully boring when you have one good-looking
>woman after another performing their routines.  Hazel breaks up the monotony."
>L.W. and Dave the purple buzz, check this out.

never been to a strip joint in my life and don't plan to, unless they play
the blues of course.....Dave will have to give us the reveiw.....L.W.
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Subject: New Doors fan club info !!
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:43:59 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Attention all Doors fans:

    There will be a Doors fan club with magazine starting up in January.  I
have been asked by the president/editor to get names of perspective
fan club members.  He also has a very large collection of live shows/radio
shows to trade.  Just send your name, address and anything else you'd like
to say and it will get to him.  He is very good about replying to letters,
usually within 24 hours.

-Dave
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From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: don't freddle my gruntbugglies
              15 Sep 1992 16:06:30 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:06:30 EDT Sonia Kovitz said:
>> An aside to our strong-armed-christian-militant-cyrus-head:
>>
>> "Remember, there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over...
>"
>>
>> (cummon Sonia, guess who said this??!!)  :)
>>
>>
>
>Kneel Simon
>
Do Ohio State KNOW about YOU?!

-Scott "Pun-ished" Hammer
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:06:09 CDT
From:         THERESA BLACKWELL <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
Subject:      BLOOZ!!!

  ZZAJ....
  I LIKE what Bonnie RAITT did with "Nick of Time"
 and "Luck of the Draw"...
 Ok, so she's Rhythm and Blues, but what the heck, right?
 She's got a funky, down-to-earth way of makin' you understand
 where she's singing from... her stuff is right from the heart, too.
 And she couldn't have picked a better pianist on "I can't MKe
  (&)*&)!!!! "I can't Make you Love Me".. than BRUCE HORNSBY.
 (Hornsby = bachelor's in keyboard performance, New England
 Conservatory !!!)
 Hornsby can play with funk, though.
 _______
 What ever happened to the great "scat" singers like Satchmo???
 I've heard maybe two or three dudes try it, and not one can
 top HIS efforts.
 "G"

 * <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:35:34 CDT
From:         Good but Harmful <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Cowards.

>On Wed, 9 Sep 92 08:42:38 EDT HELP%Help%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU said:
>> READ THE BOTTOM ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>    Much deleted here...some good stuff anyway...All of it mine...
>    Oh the ire of S.o.'s,but apparently he likes the word "asshole"
>>
>>Look asshole -- Ed only pointed out that he likes Billy Ray Cyrus's music and
>>not his body..  So here is a short verse for you!!!   "FUCK OFF"
>>P.S. Talk your fantasy somewhere else.

>Armie,
>    How dissapointing. Don't start any flame wars you can't handle.
>    Cowering behind your signifigant other is bad form...

>                                            XX OO
>                                            EdD

If I was you, I'd be quaking in my boots. EdD was maDD enough to
face down Ruxpin, which is like arm-wrestling a rabid gorilla.
Back off, man.

>Helpie,
>   Surely your education included better phrasing and content than
>   simply "f*ck Off"  You must not think much of your S.O.
>   if you feel that you have to defend him...
>                                           naughty boy.

>                                         X
>                                          EdD

To quote someone, I wish I knew who:
Obscenity is the crutch of the inarticulate motherfucker.

You mentioned a while ago that Billy Ray Sirius was country music,
which counts under "Discussion of all forms of music."

Mindless ranting on how Billy Ray or Vinnie Caliua (sp?) is God,
is ranting. It is not discussion. Talk to me about Billy, don't
tell me he's wonderful. Don't repost archival stuff - we've seen
it before. Discussion is a two-way street (a CSNY album is a four
way street, but that's OMC)

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
 My love was an addiction
 I mainlined to my soul
 You made me go cold turkey
 Left me strung out in the cold
 Now I've done a 12-step program
 I've made a brand-new start
 and there is no trace of you
 in the piss-cup of my heart
      -"Piss-cup (of my heart)," by Dave Jacoby, in process