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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Re: X-Men Intrigue
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:30:47 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Variousnesses Deleted to bring YOU this IMPORTANT PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT:

>How many of you think Scott is eventually going to dump Jean for Betsy?

[...snipa snipa snipa snipa snipa...]

>I mean, the woman has it coming, for all the mess she's put Cyclops
>through.  Hasn't Cyclops learned by now that REDHEADS ARE BAD NEWS?  (Not
>a generalization to all redheads in general -- just those featured in the
>X-books).  Besides, someone like Psylocke is definitely too good to pass
>up.  I think the man deserves a break, as well as a little purple-haired
>babe ninja BOO-TAY!

We're sorry, but BOO-TAY! is currently a Level 3 Threat Word from the
Jive Fallout Threat Research List, and should not be used on open newsgroups
without proper public warning and appropriate disinfection. Repeated
attempts to reintroduce this word into the comman usage will result in
fines, and possibly some punative penality, like watching all of Rudy Ray
Moore's films.

That, I think, is warning enough for any mortal.

>And I have to agree -- Psylocke _IS_ Babe #1!!!

My ex-girlfriend is still Babe #1 for me (sigh), although my cat was
purty pretty when she was alive. And my mom, of course, kicks ass in
spandex.

Otherwise, you certainly are welcome to your observations on the X-titles...

"You never really know a woman until you've gone a mile in her pants. I mean
 shoes."
 		--Richard Darwin

PS for DEAR CLEAN OWL:  Of course, we all know who the REAL Babe #1 is, ja?



"At the moment, all I was worried about was the flour." --Richard Darwin


11:41. I turned my watch back.
11:30. "How much time do we have?" asked Sean.
"Thirty mintues," I replied.
"Good."


-- 
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From: djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J)
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Subject: x-mantas
Date: 25 Jan 1993 03:16 CST
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question where the hell is gambit in these last episodes?

should rogue be able to control cyclop's beams because she lacks the 
brain damage?

how long does the person stay out after rogue "zaps" them?

isn't that when their powers return? i didn't think that she could
have the powers longer than the person was out. someone correct me on this.
aren't they both on a 1/60 ratio?

i personally like this cartoon. it has some violence like the good old days.
not none of that throwing thinks and them all the time. i thought having
sabretoothe rip logan on-screen (as oposed to morph dying off screen) was
great.

		seth I
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (THE SCAVENGER STRIKES BACK)
Subject: Re: *THE* lamest thing about the X-books
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 05:50:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.202839.12438@midway.uchicago.edu> gmf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <93021.024045SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET> Tad Simmons <SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>>  Another thing that needs explanation is just how much of what _we_ see is
>>visible to the comic characters?  The best example of this is Sue Richards.
>>For example, I have trouble with Jean's TK producing a visible aura, and I'm
>>not sure if they have ever stated whether it really does, or they just paint
>>it in to show _the reader_ what is going on.  Anyone with a better memory out
>>there?  I would hope there isn't an aura, 'cause this would _really_ limit
>
>I brought this up a about a year ago.  Personally, I think it would
>suck if Jean's aura could be seen.......it would kinda nix any
>kind of surprise attack.
>However, Scott used to always refer to Jean's TK "bubble" as if
>he could see it.  I'm waiting to see how they do i on Xmen TAS.
>
Well it was said in a recent Excalibur that the mental power stuff could be seen
They called it psionicly charged Plasma or some such.  I believe it was in the
Psylock (whatever) or X-men issues.  Alystair was playing with it.

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From: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Subject: Re: Wolverine: Does anyone like this title?
Reply-To: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Organization: Me, Myself, and I
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:40:03 GMT

In article <C1AGBr.GMH@news2.cis.umn.edu> bert@snowman.med.umn.edu (Albert Nakano  CBN) writes:
>Is it just my imagination, or am I the only one currently enjoying the
>Wolverine title?  I have much respect for Larry Hama as a writer (something
>artist fanboys and fangirls(?) seem to forget is a crucial component to
>a successful comic book(book, get it?)) and sometimes annoying with the
>disproportionate body plan TEX is also more than up to the task at hand.
>That's not to say I don't have complaints, but with Marvel, I'm not sure
>who is responsible for the plot.  Hama's major retconning of Wolverine's
>past is interesting.  I just hope he can tie up all on conflicting info
>about this mutant. 

>Albert Nakano

While there is definitely quite a bit of trash in this title, I enjoy
this title, generally. I found the issue with Silver Fox's funeral to be
well written, well drawn, and well handled. Instead of having a free for all
fight issue, Hama decided to explore Logan's personality, and his feelings
for Silver Fox.

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From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
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Subject: Speculations on Richard Darwin!!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:18:42 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

There has been much speculation over the identity of Richard Darwin, quoted
exclusively by Dave "Rogue-lover" Henry.  The speculation has lead to a regular
thread entitled such.

Well my latest speculation is that Richard Darwin is a character in a comic or
book that Dave writes.  This is my guess, at least until I am corrected.  It is
not his penname since he has destroyed my greatest theory, I suppose I must
resort to the latest...  Dave does write for a newspaper, and so maybe it was
some crackpot he interviewed?  Or maybe a sociopath boss of his???

							wReam...

P.S.  Stay tooned for more speculation as it comes to me.

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This may be wrong, its from memory, but didn't Kate Pryde from the 'future' and
 our Kitty Pryde switch places at one point?  If so, then wouldn't Kate have le
arned all about Dark Phoenix?

Marius
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From: orpheus@next07cville.wam.umd.edu (Grant Jeffrey Barrus)
Subject: Re: POSSIBLE PSYLOCKE RESOLUTION
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:15:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.142648.29147@nmsu.edu> bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)  
writes:
> orpheus@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Grant Jeffrey Barrus) wrote:
> >Um, a good thought but I don't think it will work.  In the recent  
Excaliburs
> >  Where Psylocke goes to England to meet with her brother, they do all  
sorts of
> > brother-sister telepathic mind links and stuff like that.  I doubt she  
could
> > have faked her way through that.  Of course maybe she could.
> Excalibur had and has little to do with the rest of Marvel continiety  
wise.
> Case in point:  Rachel Summers  Instead of correcting the discrepenies  
between 
> UX #141-142 and what latter writers wrote Alen Davi went off and  
reworked
> everything.   His origin is little better then any of the others and  
does not
> match Days of future past either, even though Excalibut #26 DIRECTLY  
tied
> Rachel Summers the timeline of UX #141-142.  Somebody pointed out that
> Captain Britian's power outages around issues #8-9 don't match what was  
told in
> early issues of Captain Britian {The trade paperback is little help,  
Brian is
> in England most of it so I cannot conferm the stated disrepencies.}
> Nightcrawler seems not remember that Mystique(sp) even exists much less  
they
> may be related.  I heard a rumor from a dealer here that NEITHER Marvel  
nor
> Excalibur pay that much to each other as far as following continiety  
between
> it and other Marvel titles. {He also told me that Exalibur came close to  
being
> canceled around the #30s.}.  As far as fooling Brian, well a warwolf did  
it 
> back in Excalibur #41 into believing that it was his sister.
> So as far a what is going on with Psylocke, look to other books in  
addition
> to Excalibur because writers in other titles tend to IGNORE Excalibur.

Sorry, but I'm afraid you misquoted me. I wrote the article that was being  
commented on, not the comment. But I do agree that Excalibur is not in  
continuity, considering everyone ignores it anyway.

Grant Jeffrey Barrus
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From: rjoffe@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Ron Joffe)
Subject: Re: Psylocke is BABE #1
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:25:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.011700.16097@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, c60c-2mk@web-1h.berkeley.edu () writes:
> In article <1jpssiINNdfs@male.EBay.Sun.COM> laker@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Brian McInerney) writes:
> >
> >	This might be the wrong newsgroup for this but that       
> >	Hells Angel book that has had Psylocke guest star in:
> >
> >	has the most el stinko crapolla art I've seen in a while!
> >	What a load of crap! Good thing I looked on the inside first!
> >
> >
> >	Brian <The Mac>
> >
> >
> >	
> 
> 	It is in my opinion that most of the Marvel U.K.'s comics suck, I
> mean REALLY suck, and the last two issues of Hell's Angel has been the worst
> I've seen.  My five year old nephew can draw better than that.
> 
> 							J.T.
I am wondering if J.T> has seen some other of Marvel U.K.'s works, or is just
basing his comments on a few titles. For example, I have found the artwork in
Digitek to be quite excelent. 


Ron
From: geurink@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Josh Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Factor 88 (SPOILERS)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:12:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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In article <1k6radINNbk6@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang) writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.133442.24128@news.columbia.edu> kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka) writes:

>>I think Val was replaced by a shapeshifter/clone from Genosha, so that they
>>can lure the X-Patriots and X-Factor back.  It seems to fit with the sudden
>>change of Val letting X-Factor go to Genosha and the last scene in the
>>issue.

>I believe that the shapeshifter of the X-patriots is the one that grabbed
>Val and is currently posing as her.  The X-patriots were acting very oddly
>all during the X-cutioner's Song.  Obviously, they have something planned
>but I am not certain what.  Perhaps a complete overthrow of government?

What, you mean the shapeshifter that Random creamed after failing to find
something to shapeshift into?  Nah -- I have too much faith in PAD  to
think he'd miss such an obvious conflict.

As for an X-Patriot planned takeover, it wouldn't be in character.  I mean,
Prodigal REALLY seems the type to take every factor into consideration 
before making a decision, and he just doesn't know enough about current
Genosha to plan a revolution there.  But, another Genoshan shapeshifter
setting BOTH teams up for a fall would seem in order...

Just how many shapeshifters ARE there in the Marvel Universe, anyway?

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From: robear@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jay Michael)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Psylocke
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:46:37 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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(Chris Holly) writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.xbooks: 18-Jan-93 Psylocke by Jay
>Michael@ccwf.cc.utex 
>> A) Marvel messed up.
>> B) Psylocke is not a mutant, thus Psylocke is not Betsy Braddock.  She would
>>    have had to "pretend" that Wipeout removed her mutant powers so that the
>>    X-men wouldn't get suspicious.
>
>Assuming for one moment that Marvel did not mess up(it is possible)...
>
>    Psylocke may or may not be a mutant.... In an earlier post I
>specified that a mutant is someone who has gene traits not in common
>with either parent, and therefore, Syrin is not a mutant.  It has been
>stated that in reality Psylocke and Captain Brittain's father was a
>mystical being from the dimension of other world... However, it has
>never been stated what, if any powers he had.... he could have had
>Betsy's telepathic powers, Brians Strength and flight powers, Jamie's
>Telekinetic/Reality Manipulation powers, a combination of all or none of
>these abilities.  Therefore, we cannot be sure if any of the three
>Braddock Siblings are truly mutants (it is quite possible that some of
>them may be and dome may not).

This line of reasonings seems to me to be what I would call . . . stretching
it a bit.  I'll bet you a bunch that Marvel writers are not going to 
remember little itty bitty things like this when it comes down to mutant
detectors finding syrin . . . even if they did do that trick once I'm sure
it would be retconned later.  I would rather hazard to guess that Marvel
is thinking more along the lines of 'Mutant Strain', that once your genes
diverge from homo sapiens, you will always show up as a mutant, regardless
wether or not the descendants genes change again.  In that sense, they're not
mutants from their parents, but mutants from humanity.  Therefore, I would
postulate that children of mutates are then mutants, since they are born 
with different genes than the rest of humanity.  The real question: if a child
of a mutant or mutate mutates in such a way that it now has the same genes
as homo sapiens, what is it?  (Up a creek, prolly).

Robear

P.S.  _Still_ wondering what the full form of 'retcon' is.

P.P.S.  Who the snarf is Richard Darwin???  He seems like he might be a good
laugh, but the quotes I see are so ridiculously out of context that I can
barely imagine the situation he's in.  He certainly isn't a one liner comic.

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Subject: Re: X-Men cartoon Jan.9,1993 - what was different?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:37:01 PST

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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Factor 88 (SPOILERS)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:29:01 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
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In article <1993Jan23.133442.24128@news.columbia.edu> kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka) writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.024557.7705@athena.mit.edu> rlcarr@athena.mit.edu (Richard L. Carreiro) writes:
>>You've been warned...

>>Quick question, though...no followup on what happened
>>to Val at the end of #87.  Was the end of #87 supposed to
>>be just a joke, or was it real?  Or did something happen to Val --
>>wwitness Jamie's (?) remark about it seeming like Val was
>>replaced with an evil twin.  Of course, she could just be peeved
>>still over Sampson telling her she knew nothing about the team.
>>Anyone willing to speculate or say anything on this?

>I think Val was replaced by a shapeshifter/clone from Genosha, so that they
>can lure the X-Patriots and X-Factor back.  It seems to fit with the sudden
>change of Val letting X-Factor go to Genosha and the last scene in the
>issue.

I believe that the shapeshifter of the X-patriots is the one that grabbed
Val and is currently posing as her.  The X-patriots were acting very oddly
all during the X-cutioner's Song.  Obviously, they have something planned
but I am not certain what.  Perhaps a complete overthrow of government?

August Paul Yang isn't too wild about the name X-patriots either
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: 910252m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Dwayne MacKinnon)
Subject: Re: X-Factor 88 (SPOILERS)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:08:52 GMT

kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka) writes:

>In article <1993Jan23.024557.7705@athena.mit.edu> rlcarr@athena.mit.edu (Richard L. Carreiro) writes:
>>You've been warned...
>>
>>
>>Well, kudos to Peter David for a novel way of getting a
>>Bad Guy(tm) out of your hair, though I believe someone on the 
>>net suggested something similar a few weeks ago.
>>Paying him more than his employers paid him.  I love!
>>

Guess what....

      Fabian Nicieza did the "buy off the Bad Guy (tm)" first. See issue #2 of
the Night Thrasher: Four Control Limited Series.

DMK

--
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purpose; I will win for him if I can; If not, I will gain nothing but my
shame, and the odd hits." - Puck quoting Shakespeare in The Crossing Line

Dwayne MacKinnon, 910252m@Dragon.acadiau.ca, Acadia University, Wolfville,
Nova Scotia, Canada.
From: nieboer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Stinky Wizzleteats)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: *THE* lamest thing about the X-books
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:13:26 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox) writes:

>In article <1993Jan24.055020.1284@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (THE SCAVENGER STRIKES BACK) writes:
>>>
>>Well it was said in a recent Excalibur that the mental power stuff
>>could be seen.  They called it psionicly charged Plasma or some such.
>>I believe it was in the Psylocke or X-men issues.  Alystair was
>>playing with it. 

>  It was an Alan Davis issue, I know, so it was probably one of the
>Psylocke issues.  I believe the phrase was "psionicly-induced
>atmospheric ionization."  A wonderful piece of pseudoscience.

It was the Phoenix retcon issue (#52?) and yes, that was the phrase....

Brian: Stop mucking about, Alistaire....you'd think you'd never seen 
psionically induced atmospheric ionization before!

That was telepathy though....no TK involved.
>--
>Jonathan Lennox
>jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
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From: chunger@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chung-Mau Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Pockets and straps
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:22:31 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
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 joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung) writes:

> I wonder what goes into all those little teensy-weensy pockets
> that sometimes cover a person's body -- right now I'm thinking
> of Boom-boom's new outfit, if you need an example.

> I also wonder what all those nifty straps that line a person's
> costume actually support and tighten -- right now I'm thinking
> of Polaris's new outfit, if you need an example, in particular
> the one that goes from her belt to the straps on her thigh.

I think they're mainly there for its visual aspect as opposed to having
any real use. But then, I'm just speculating. :)

Whenever I design and draw a character's costume, I try to keep in mind
function over form, but I gotta admit, those strap dohickies sure look
great on an outfit!!

Later,
The Chunger :)
From: rramirez@husc10.harvard.edu (Robert Ramirez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Madrox and diseases (was Re: X-Factor #88)
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:15:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan26.101547.19806
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <26JAN199300594937@summa.tamu.edu> djh4535@summa.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J) writes:

[About Madrox duplicating and how it would handle diseases]
>
>i find this discussion interesting
>here is a point i'd like top make.
>by sharing/integrating said desease it would decrease the potentcy of
>said desease. (like we he heal a rib by merging or something)
>so if he like had say herpes it could be diluted to a point where
>he could naturally throw it off
>
>		seth I 

Yeah, but we're talking about a _LOT_ of duplicates here.  First of all,
how many viruses are already in the human body at the onset of symptoms
for say, herpes (to use the same example)?  Second, isn't Madrox's limit
like, 40 or something?  So then, is a dilution factor of 40 really enough
for the body's immune system to "throw off" the disease?  Keep in mind
that the virus is creating millions of new viruses every minute.  But just
maybe, all mutants have an enhanced healing factor or something that makes
their immune systems work better and faster than those of ordinary humans.

Just my two pesos... (Actually, that should be 60 Mexican pesos = $0.02)

:)


Peace,

R ^ 3

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