HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Business Trip to LONG ISLAND
Keywords: What to do ????
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:13:35 GMT
Distribution: ny
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug17.152657.28885@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.141757.1953@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>>
>>Any offers for company would also be appreciated, drink and buffalo
>>wings on me!!!
>
>(He musta got tired of crab legs, see ...)  :-)
>
>-Nance
>-- 
>Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
>att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
>                            (_) \(_)                           

Not at all.  I wouldn't want to have crabs with just anyone.  ;-)
(Hi Nance!)

					Steve
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans)
Subject: Re: deformities and perversions
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:17:45 GMT
Keywords: selectivity, sociobiology, complexity

In article <kiran.714123385@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

>Hmm, this seems to confirm what a friend said recently: that women
>find men they like physically attractive.  Well, I guess there are two
>such women.

Make that 3.  Of course, I find attractive almost anything on 2 legs with 
a sense of humour and a huge dollop of intelligence.  Or, wait, didn't
that just define what I like?  Hm....

Piglet
From: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:19:36 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

In <1992Aug12.040417.15972@nuchat.sccsi.com> kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>But if the friendship is the only thing that's happening, it won't be
>too long before a romance becomes close to impossible.

I didn't quite get the previous sentence. Could you clarify your
thoughts a little?

>For the purposes of starting a romance, friendship by itself is a deadly
>thing, or so it seems.

As it's stated before, It works both ways. Personally I'd rather date
someone I know than a total stranger.

Juha
-- 
Juha Taina | taina@cs.helsinki.fi | Phone: +358-0-708-4247
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 18:58:28 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <Bt33pt.80p@acsu.buffalo.edu>  swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann) writes:
>
> [And yeah, a couple of drinks does cushion the blow a bit

That's why alcohol and sex don't mix!  :-)

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: FINNS - They all look alike
Date: 13 Aug 1992 01:22:30 GMT
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

In article <28991@hydra.Helsinki.FI>, taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
> In <1992Aug12.153837.4529@muppet.bt.co.uk> bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim) writes:
> 
>>And about half of the remainder are in Finland - too cold for me !
> 
> Yeah. Besides, who would want to see us Finns anyway?  Once you have
> seen one Finn you have seen them all. :)
> 
> Juha
> -- 
> Juha Taina | taina@cs.helsinki.fi | Phone: +358-0-708-4247

Hey Juha!  'Member that old adage, "They all lookalike" (

What do the finnish women look like (  Are they foxes, babes, should I jump
like a frog?  Is it hammer time (
From: kgorman@star-trek.bbn.com (Karen Gorman)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: men dancing with men just because they're friends.
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:55:22 GMT
Reply-To: kgorman@BBN.COM (Karen Gorman)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: archive.bbn.com



In article <14092@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.165259.28982@panix.com> pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>|In article <14072@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>|>In article <1992Aug14.212829.33958@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
>|>>In  <2219@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com>  luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:
>|>>>
>|>>> Why men can't dance with men in america without some stigma attached to it.
>|>>
>|>>Well, gee, if I knew there was a stigma attached, I'm sure I wouldn't have
>|>>done it.
>|>
>|>Usually when I've got my stigma attached, I end up dancing with a women
>|>rather than men.  Are you sure you've got it attached correctly.  The pointy
>|>end goes out.
>|
>|If you decide you don't like the stigma and throw it away, will
>|your dogma retrieve it for you?
>
>Send them to Mel. I think she collects them.



Hey, no dishing Mel while she is off the air....


If you need someplace to send them in the interim, send them to me,
and I'll take good care of them in Mel's absence :-).



Karen

kg@bbn.com


PS:  Mel will be netless indefinitely, but I'm saving certain posts for her.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:32:08 GMT

kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) claims:

>I don't notice anything except through strictly conscious channels.
>It has *always* been that way, from birth.
 
*chortle*  Balderdash.  Poppycock.  Fiddlesticks.
 
You notice lots of things thru non-conscious channels.  
 
Or perhaps you don't experience emotions?  
 
(Read Nathaniel Branden for a discussion of the nature of emotions...)
 
-- 
Kiran Wagle                             <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
P.O.Box 2083 Bloomington IN 47402-2083      (812) 336-7478 [8p-1a EST]
From: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: FINNS - They all look alike
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:37:14 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

In <1992Aug18.173400.25024@mits.mdata.fi> jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla) writes:

>In article <28998@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>>Well... A typical Finnish woman is about 5'5" blonde, short/medium
>>straight hair and perhaps wears glasses.  Most of them are about the
>>right weight, although quite a lot of them think that they are too
>>fat.  She is pretty attractive, I think.

>Liar!

This must mean that Mr. Jarvenkyla disagrees with me! :)

>A typical Finnish woman is at least 30% overweigh unhygienic square head
>who only wonders about the polar bear fur fashion of next winter.
>Usually encountered in supermarkets with curlers in their hair, buying
>overpriced "young beauty" sellulite gels and reduced price household
>sausage.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I guess a romantic person like
me sees beauty where a cynic like you sees only ugliness. :)

>As there's nothing much to do here in the evenings they usually read
>wise saying from the Bible and sing folk songs.

Why not?  Folk songs is a great way to meet MOTAS! :)

Juha
-- 
Juha Taina | taina@cs.helsinki.fi | Phone: +358-0-708-4247
From: luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Married Men and Single Women
Summary: cover up
Keywords: Why are married men more attractive than single men?
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:36:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concurrent - Oceanport NJ

In article <adams.713546541@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU>, adams@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU (Allen Adams) writes:
> 
> In terms of 'Married Women and Single Men' (a reverse of the subject),
> truer friendships with the married women I have met.  They are not
> a 'threat' to me, nor I to them.  We can talk about the world around
> The fact that they are married makes it MUCH easier to interact; there
> is no game playing going on.
> 
> Allen Adams

Am I to assume that there is a 'threat' between single men and others?
some natural threat of attack on the private by the love starved single man.
what threat? 
The mitre of this oracle smacks of some grand illusion.
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: FINNS - They all look alike
Date: 18 Aug 1992 17:49:11 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Aug18.173400.25024@mits.mdata.fi> jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla) writes:
>
>I didn't even know she was
>abnormal until I found out that she used to acquire half of her
>household goods from the garbage cans. 

Wait a minute -- why do you say that's abnormal?  Is there something I
haven't been told?  (Why are you looking at me that way?)

Dawn
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Ugly hands
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:56:49 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug16.191149.8058@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:

>In an earlier posting, which I've lost, Dawn Hardin mentioned "ugly hands."
>What characteristics make hands ugly?  Part of my interest stems from the
>fact that the palm of my right hand is mildly atavistic.

Cool!  Hair or scales?  :-)

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
The sun is gonna shine again / We're gonna make it 'round that bend
I'll walk another mile with you, 'cause you're my friend
The sun is gonna shine again.			- Graham Parker
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Psychobabble
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:41:04 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug16.184917.5360@nuchat.sccsi.com> kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:

>In article <thurlow.713979722@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:

>>You do realize that there are many, many things that one comes to
>>believe in one's life that one may not be able to prove?  

>Like what?

Like my belief that my cat likes some music.  First, I can't ask her
about it, I can only infer some things from her external behaviour.
Second, I won't ever know if her feelings map to mine in any way.
I am pretty sure she likes baroque music, but I don't think I'll be
able to prove it to my satisfaction, though I believe it would be
possible in principle.

>>There are also things one comes to believe that are unprovable.

>Like what?  The existence of a "god"?

Comes to mind, yup, though I'm not a believer.  I am no longer the firm
athiest that I was a few years ago, though.

>Just because others may be inclined to believe the unprovable doesn't
>mean that I am.

If you don't make a few sensible working assumptions, you'll never
be able to get anywhere.

>My intentions have obviously been severely misinterpreted here.
>When *I* say "prove it", I mean "I cannot accept this without some form
>of evidence.  Please provide the evidence".

I suggest you try to use something other than "prove it".  To my ear,
that is quite rude.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
The sun is gonna shine again / We're gonna make it 'round that bend
I'll walk another mile with you, 'cause you're my friend
The sun is gonna shine again.			- Graham Parker
From: cordelkj@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Kevin John Cordell)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:32:34 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <1992Aug20.195216.8526@cs.ucla.edu> gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>>I have known a few people that go to these cons (sci-fi) and told me
>>that the reason they do it to meet people, and hope that they score.
>>Now I'm sure that's not the reason that all of them go, but this is
>>what the people told me as to why they go.
>
>I recall some people complaining about people they'd met at cons who
>tried to pick them up.  Their complaint with these people was that the
>only reason they showed up to cons was to pick people up.  I also
>recall some people complaining about other con goers who assumed if
>you showed up you were willing to engage in some physical or sexual
>activity with them (without being asked).  For example, even if they
>didn't know you, they'd walk up to you and give you a backrub, without
>asking first if it was ok.
>
>--gregbo

The one term that I remember was 'Full Fledged Fuck-Fest'

kevin
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Cordelkj@ucunix.san.uc.edu
From: johne@vcd.hp.com (John Eaton)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:12:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Scott Probst (probst@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
: 
: then you must feel the same as the three-quarters of women who take a
: 60+% dive in income after divorces, while seeing their ex-husbands
: take a comparable rise. i think this equality thing is taking a little
: longer to work out than we realised...
: 
These are the same women who saw a 60% rise in their incomes when they married.
For most women marrital commitment means a rise in their standard of living
while men see a fall. Is it any wonder that they view commitment slighty 
differantly?

Imagine passing a "Paycheck Protection Law" that required employers to continue
to pay 40% of a workers paycheck even after they quit. Would you feel sorry
for someone who quits and has "suffered" a 60% drop in income? They are still
better off than if they had never married.

Theres an old joke about involvement and commitment. In a breakfast of ham and
eggs the chicken is involved but the pig is committed. In marriage the woman
is involved but the man is commited. 


John Eaton
!hp-vcd!johne
From: catcher@netcom.com (Paul W. Francisco)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Cooling things off...
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:49:26 GMT
Organization: The Vampyre's Lair

In article <1992Aug12.021802.21700@morrow.stanford.edu> finucane@camis.Stanford.EDU (Michael Finucane) writes:
> However perhaps more callously, it is in catcher net.com's interest 

Actually, it's my friend who is concerned about this...

>As she says, she doesn't want his suicide on her conscience for the
> rest of her life.  It's easy to SAY that it shouldn't be, but the simple
> fact is that it will be.  Otherwise she wouldn't be writing.

One thing that seems to have gotten lost very early on... my friend 
didn't say the guy was going to, or even threatening suicide.  The 
suicide reference was to a previous time.  Granted, this does allow
for the possibility now, but we aren't talking something that is
imminent, at least not to my reading.  I think the reference to
suicide has gotten a lot of people thinking he is about to do it.

I also don't think tha finding this person a girlfriend is the way to 
go.  This guy has my friend concerned.  She is somewhat afraid of him
because he has access to the house and works in the same department.
Think about it.  If you found someone to be of enough concern to make
you this concerned, would you then want to subject a friend to it?
Doesn't sound like the thing friends would do.  I know that if I
were to help a friend find an SO I would want the person we found
to be fairly stable.  

Though it would be a good way to get that annoying person who always
comes and jabbers at you in lunch off your back >-)

-- 
From the Vampyre's Lair, 	    The thirst from a vampire bite
Paul W. Francisco        	    fills the emptiness inside...
catcher@netcom.com                      - Siouxsie and the Banshees
From: luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: men dancing with men just because they're friends.
Keywords: men homos single bad reason
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:29:11 GMT
Organization: Concurrent - Oceanport NJ


Why men can't dance with men in america without some stigma attached to it .
From: matt@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Matt Crawford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: "Congratulations" and/or "Best Wishes"
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:59:17 GMT
Organization: Big Bang Burger Bar

Diana CatWoman:
) |> ] }> (Okay - after almost 9 years of separation, my divorce
) |> ] }> is final in 5 days - so I HAD to say this...)

Lana Mountford:
) My divorce was final almost 2 yrs after I separated, ...

What *is* it with you slow people?

Sorry, I retract that nosey question and substitute the statement
that mine was final 7 months and a day after the move-out.  Maybe
it's because we used no lawyers?  Or maybe it's because we tried
everything *before* moving out and so had no long period of do
we/don't we afterward.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Subject: Re: Psychobabble
Organization: I can't see any in the immediate vicinity...
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:04:43 GMT

In article <059m_+n.barry@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.183007.14168@nuchat.sccsi.com> kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:

[...]

>>Ah, but you see, I don't have that problem, because I don't *know* anything
>>that I can't prove.  :-)
>
>	Think again; can you prove you're self aware to someone else,
>and not a Stepford Wife, yourself? Not just "have good evidence", or
>"convince them", but _prove_ it?

Well, I didn't say that I *knew* that I was self-aware, did I?  :-) :-)

By "prove" I generally mean "provide convincing evidence".  I realize that
"prove" can take on a stronger meaning, but that tends to be true (or, at
the very least, useful) only in mathematics (there may be other fields, but
I am not aware of them).

So: I don't tend to believe in things that I can't provide convincing
evidence for, except for one class of thing: my own experiences.  There
are many of them that I cannot provide convincing evidence for.  So they
tend to fall into the category of "historical evidence".  At best, they
are consistent with my current observations, and they are also internally
consistent.  But there is little external verification for them.

As such, I place less confidence in them than I do in repeatable physical
observations.

>	When you figure out it can't be done, you may also then
>understand why "the ghost in the machine" is both an old and an
>apropos name for self awareness.

Fascinating.

I submit to you for your consideration this:  that one cannot, even in
principle, prove something (by any definition) unless a test for that
something is devised first, and that the term "prove" is devoid of any
meaning unless such a test exists.

Thus, if you cannot devise a test for the existence of "the ghost in the
machine" (aka self-awareness), then the statement that one cannot prove
the existence of "the ghost in the machine" is devoid of meaning.

Therefore, I must ask: what test or set of tests, if passed would prove
self-awareness?

My point?  I agree that "the ghost in the machine" may be an apropos
name for self-awareness, but it would be interesting to know *why* it
is apropos.  :-)

>						Kayembee


-- 
				Kevin Brown

			    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com
			    kevin@taronga.taronga.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:07:00 GMT

>walter (Walter Lego) writes:
>   Yo Kiran! Trying to be THE net.cynic now that post-Dr.whatshisname-james

loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>Hey, I thought *I* was the resident net.cynic on soc.singles!  
>(Sorry, Kiran....)  
*laugh* No need to apologise.  I certainly don't want any such title.  

>Guess I gotta start posting more often to retain the title though.  
Or perhaps just so we can read your thoughtful prose.

>See what happens when I go on vacation for a week?
The cats get lonely and start to fight?

>-Sandra the cynic
*laugh* You?  A cynic?  *snort*



-- 
Kiran Wagle                             <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
P.O.Box 2083 Bloomington IN 47402-2083      (812) 336-7478 [8p-1a EST]
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (on the net)
Organization: Some and growing
Distribution: na
Date: 22 Aug 92 10:19:05 GMT

In article <BtCCzo.1B8@iat.holonet.net> cocoa@iat.holonet.net 
(little 'e') writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.021739.674@panix.com>pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug20.183428.135449@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:
>>>stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>
>>>>Since it seems that USENET is an environment where some of the women prefer
>>>>intelligent men, perhaps we can conclude that a man's chances of meeting a
>>>>woman by posting *intelligent* things to USENET are greater than 0%.
>>
>>>I guess this is still purely hypothetical, though.
>>
>>No, not really.
>>
>>Shall we have a show of hands? (yes, even the strange-looking ones)
>>
>>paul        depending on your definition of intelligent
>
>Well, just to throw out a couple examples of people I met by/because of
>the net, I met Kenn Barry in person because I thought his posts seemed
>very intelligent.  I became good friends with him because we got along well
>in person, but I'm sure the advantage of knowing each other through the net
>made things that much easier.   
>
I think I'll join in with the men and women I've met via the net who
are witty, intelligent and a lot of fun (sorry, Charlie - you and I
haven't met yet - although ...) - some who are friends (and
exceptional ones at that) and some who are good aquaintances.  I
haven't met a sweetie/SO/RP, yet, a lot of potential though.

Let's see there's Trygve, Larry Margolis, Seth Breidbart, Ron Wessels,
Dawn Albright (aka Hardin), Eleanor (Piglet), Jeff Kuehn, Paul
Wallich, and a few others who's names wouldn't mean anything to most
or who belong to other groups.

>And I never would have met Paul Wallach if we had not been involved in a
>flame war beforehand (hey, are you laughing yet?).

I think it was the same flame war that introduced us as we (you know,w
you never did provide whipped cream)

>So yeah, here's my 3 hands. :)

I've run out of fingers - let alone hands ... 

I think the key is being truely open to meeting new people and *not*
expecting anything (ie., that the person will become a de-facto
romance/friend/lover *or* that their posts tell all about them)

Allisson  (if I've forgotten someone - please chastise me in private)

-- 
allisson@turing.toronto.edu (new address)       H. Allisson Roome
"Teach only love, and learn that love is yours and you are love."(A.C.I.M/p.92)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ra@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Starcap'n Ra)
Subject: Re: Major problems
Organization: soc.singles
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:41:49 GMT

oviedo@LAB.ULTRA.NYU.EDU (Miguel D Oviedo) writes:
> She is at the point now where she says she wants NO contact with me,
> physical, verbal, NOTHING, NADA, ZIP, NONE!  How do I deal with this..

     Unfortunately, you basically fuck off.  Anything
else will only make matters worse.

> 	What I am asking for is some help/suggestions on how to deal 
> with this overall shitty feeling, the kinda feeling where you just 
> want to crawl in a corner a die. 

     Well, you just kind of crawl in a corner
and *almost* die.  That's the key.

     Sooner or later things in general always
get better.  Of course, after that happens,
sooner or later things always get worse again.
Somebody's idea of a joke, I guess.

--Starcap'n Ra       {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
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