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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:45:10 MEZ
From:         Hosko <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: New Chris de Burgh album?

  I'm not a CdeB fan and don't have any of his albums, but I did just
happen to hear an interview with him when 'Power of Ten' was released.
I certainly got the impression from this interview that it contained all
new songs. There was a single released from this album that they played
on the radio quite a bit, and this was not a rerelease of an old hit.

Hosko
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Robert Plant's bad luck and Fripp's too...

>From: Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
>Subject: LZep "The Ocean"

        About Plant's son:

>Well I'm sure you'll get a lot of answers, and far more comprehensive
>ones than this. But just to get started: it was a son who... hm...
>crashed in a car accident(?). Read the last megapost by Michael Bloom,

        No, or at least the story I know is different. Everything happened
around 1976. Plant's son died of blood cancer, as far as I know. The car
crash involved Robert himself, who in fact spent some 6 months on a wheel-
chair.
        Of course the cheap music press raised the buzz about the supposed
relationship of Led Zeppelin with the Devil and all His legions to unbeara-
ble level.
        Some people think that "Stairway To Heaven" was dedicated to Plant's
song, and this may be true -- but he was alive and well when the song was
written... :)

>From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <hjv@PHIL.RUU.NL>
>Subject: RE: Peter Gabriel Revisited

        This guy Hendrik Jan is a very good friend of mine, and (I have just
discovered) a great programmer!
        If anyone of you has a Korg M1 and an Atari ST (and two functional
MIDI cables, too), he/she should immediately contact him and ask about his
PD librarian for the M1. It's by far the best librarian I've ever seen, both
in the PD and the commercial world, and one of the best music programs for
the ST. This comes from the heart, Hendrik Jan!

>>But those were the years when he even convinced EG Records to
>>sign up a sugar-and-plastic artist like Toyah (anyone remembers?), whom he
>>later lived [=slept!] with, and THIS was a sensible move, believe me -- but
>>that's another story! :)
>
>What was a sensible idea? The singing up or the sleeping...? I once had the
>pleasure (?) of attending a show with Fripp, Toyah, Levin and someone whose
>name I forgot. It was in a rather small place and I was sitting on the front
>row. The music was real crappy, but on the occasional moments when the lady
>shut up, the three gents started playing *real* music... wow, what a
>[...]

        I've never seen Toyah in person, but the sensible idea was sleeping
with her, based on what the record covers showed. But you say that...

>(and the photographs are *far* too flattering :)

... and I believe you. Anyway, I remember the serious Fripp once stated that
"one wouldn't believe the number of nasty little infections that all these
girls carry around". A great musician, a strong thinker, but boys -- when
flesh calls, it calls :)...

        Have a swell weekend, y'all!
        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:53:15 PST
From:         Jim Grubb <JIMG@UCSFHC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lion Sleeps Tonite

On Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:56:22 CST Leonard Watkins said:
>Who recorded Lion Sleeps Tonite.......I believe Johnny Nash recorded it
>but i don't think he was the first anyone know........L.W.
The Tokens. Don't know the year but would guess around 63 or 64.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:48:33 CST
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Racism & slides

The best Slide i've found is a copper pipe (ala Johnny Winter) it got
"lifted' last time i played and i'll go to the hardware store today to
get another piece of pipe.

Racism has apperaed many times on this group recently, and I was a former
racist (serious racist) so i'm gonna tell you why i changed you may not
care, but i care and want to tell it:
Several years ago at a music fest there was a group of children singing
they were The Children Of Selma, i stopped to listen letting my racist
thoughts run through my head, they were singing gospel/freedom songs the
children are dis-advantaged children that go to a school in Selma. They
were singing some very emotional songs and honestly tears were in my eyes
thinking of how the things they sang about really took place, it has changed
me forever....After the last day of the show i was walking toward my car and a
you black child asked for my button (thats a ticket to get it in) which i
usually save them, and with no hesitation i gave it to him and told him to
enjoy the rest of the show....I've been to that fest every year and have all
the buttons from every year except for one, but i have a good feeling in my
heart and less hatred....It's far more important than a stupid button.....

We can live together as brothers and sisters or perish together as fools
(MLK)...................L. 'color-blind' W.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:26:42 EST
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      A Thought for the Day

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool
Than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

OMC: Believe it if you need it,
     If you don't, just pass it on

              -"Box of Rain," Hunter/Garcia

-Scott "Philosophical" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:44:24 +0000
From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: I bought a marimba yesterday!

>From: crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
>Subject: RE: I bought a marimba yesterday!

>About the Fripp thing -- when do we get to see the Belew/Levin Crimson?
>I read two contradictory things on the discipline list.  One had it
>way out in 1995 and another one talked about the start of next year.

Bob,
        I think the start of next year is out of question: in fact, Fripp
will be touring Italy (and not only Italy, I think) with that weird thing
called "The League Of Crafty Guitarists" or something similar.
        He's going to play 15 miles off my town on March 20, so I think
chances of having King Crimson around in that period.

        Just a thought...
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:16:52 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      a cappella...again

Hi folx-

Just a note to tell you some neat stuff about the a cappella scene - if
y'all care...I know I have at least one convert!!

1) For those of you who missed it, I will be happy to trade my 2-tape
compilation with anyone who wants to make me an offer...It now has the
Sonia seal of approval...queue up - it's 1st come 1st serve...

2) For those of you that don't want to trade - or who prefer to go to the
store...a new album came out last week that I highly reccommend. I just
bought it about 2 hours ago and haven't even heard it yet, but all the
groups on it are great and the selections are fabuloso!!! it's called
"Modern A Cappella" and it's got 16 tracks:

National Anthem - En Vogue
I Feel Good - Bobby McFerrin
Only You - The Flying Pickets
Zombie Jamboree - Rockapella
Higher and Higher - the Mint Juleps
Caravan of Love - The Housemartins
Spread Love - Take 6
Unomathemba - Ladysmith Black Mambazo
Heaven - Longhouse
Silhouettes - The Nylons
My Husband Was A Weatherman - The Bobs
Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow - The Persuasions
Mighty Love - Todd Rundgren
Leave It - Yes
Walk Like An Egyptian - The Bangles
The Hallelujah Chorus - The Roches

These are ALL a cappella arrangements of the songs - even if you know an
"instrumental " version - this isn't it. I defy any of you not to like at
least some of this CD! It's on Rhino Records and I picked it up at Tower
for $11.99. If you can't get it at a store, call Rhino at 800-432-0020
(9-5:30 Ca. Time). Includes lots of info on the groups too!

3) I also bought (god bless Visa!) the new Manhattan transfer 2-CD set.
39(?) songs - looks great. Also includes pix, history and bio info. If
anyone wants details I'll post them....

Keep in touch, y'all! It's lonely here on the weekends....

Marsha "Very happy, but very poor...." Ferziger
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:06:55 CST
From:         Dave <USTS060@RUST1.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Nice Mouth!

The Intelligently-Challenged One spewed forth:

> Geee,  I'm glad you can read a dictionary.

    These one liners are brilliant.  Without any reference to the
post you're responding to, no one has the least bit of an idea what
you're saying.  Then again that might not be too bad....
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:51:22 -0800
From:         Raymond Keller <rkeller@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Unsubscribe

Please unsubscribe me from this service.

And keep on rockin'.

RSK
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:15:00 CDT
From:         G_SWANK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      RE: FEELIES

Gerry Pratt asks: "Any fans of the Feelies out there?"

You bet! I have 3 of their tapes and went to see them live once. They're
the only band I've ever seen that did the fade ins and fade outs on their
songs live. I thought they were from NYC but NJ could be right as well.

I'm not sure if they've broken up for good, but I do know that the guitar
player (whose name escapes me) is in the new band Luna. Their new album
"Lunapark" is excellent. If you liked the Feelies, you'll like this.

Sorry for the sketchiness of the information...I'm at work and we don't get
to bring our own music up here.

You said something about releasing Captain Beefheart....has he been imprisoned
in some way?  Or do you just want more music? Don't we all. I think he's out
in the desert in his trailer painting his pictures.  I bought a CD  with both
"Clear Spot" and "Spotlight Kid" on it for 15 bucks about a year ago. Such a
deal.
Later,
Sallie "Its only life"
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Subject: Re: Martin Luther
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:10:22 GMT
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>
>>OLC (Obligatory Linguistics Content): "Mighty" is actually a poor translation
>>    of "feste," which is a direct cognate of English "fast," as in to fasten,
>>    or to make secure.  However, "mighty" has the advantage of having two
>>    syllables.
>>
>Well maybe in 1517 it was a cognate, but "strong" (or mighty) is a better
>choice for 1992, methinks; if I talk about making something fast, I'd better
>be on the sloop, or Carol, Sonia, and Marsha are gonna get the wrong idea :-)


Hey! I resemble that remark....

Marsha
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Date: 5 Nov 92 20:52:08 GMT
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>Is anyone seeing this message? For the last two days all my messages to
>ALLMUSIC have been bounced back to me.
>
>-Adam

Yes, I got it...Mine have too, but it seems that the problem is fixed -
nothing bounced today for me.

Marsha
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Little Wing
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:05:01 GMT

In article <s0383619.31.0@let.rug.nl> s0383619@let.rug.nl (J.J.G.M. Nijhuis) writes:
>It's already said that it's a Hendrix song. I want to add to that:
>PLEASE LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL!!!! Little Wing is a great song by a very 
>great guitarist and most of its covered versions really screw up the beauty 
>of it. 

How so?

It was with the Gil Evans versions that I discovered the beauty of it.

I don't have Hendrix's original version yet, but I have Jimi version on a
Stages.  The guitar player is as great as you'd expect, but there are
some wierd background vocals.  I am not even sure if they come from the
band, but they are there, and they are not happening.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:00:05 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      one for the beer

so I was listening to the radio last night
when I heard a bit of bach being banged out
on the piano.  very good music.  so I pulled
out my CDs, skipped through the tracks till
I found the piece.  it was the last section
of Bach's French Suite #5.  my CD is of a
harpsichord performance of the French Suites.
so, I gave it a play ... and ... decided that
I liked the piano performance better.

                     -Tim
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:36:03 EST
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Soul Music
              Masuda" at Nov 5, 92 9:29 pm

>
> Mario asks:
> >Who can recomend a good Soul singer?
>
> I can.  How about Aretha Franklin and Ray Charles?
> For something a little funkier, James Brown.
> For something a little older, Billie Holliday.
> For something a little jazzier, Al Jarreau.
>
> Peace and smiles.
> Mike Masuda
>
Good reply Mike--

I would add Wilson Pickett as quintessential soul.

Soulful Sonia
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:14:05 EST
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Apt post-election Lennon quote

      "Remember ... remember ....
       the Fifth of November... "



Ka-BOOM,
Rick

    OK OK, it's a meager post taking up useless space in your mailboxes.
Mea culpa and all that. Maybe one of you can either identify which Lennon
album it's on, what it signifies, etc. etc. Or delete it. Your choice. Bye.
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 13:18:44 CST
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: My two cents on Madonna

On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 13:12:52 -0500 Jason Briggs Cormier said:
>I know that I said I'd never mention M. again, but you see, I am a politician
>by nature and well, you know, during election time, nothing said carries the
>weight of an oath(-not even an oath-)
>And I just had to respond to this.
>> Madonna is an entertainer.

She probally voted for Clinton also...I'm glad she and I don't agree i wish
more could say the same....Oh well all good things come to an end,,,,L.W.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:46:37 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Roy Blount, Jr.

On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 15:36:17 EST Scott said:
>Yes, Virginia went for Bush.  Virginia is now a lock for Republican Presi-
>dential candidates for several reasons:
>
>1) After voting for Wallace in '68, many "Yellow-dog Democrats" (you know, if
>   the Democrats ran a yellow dog, they'd vote for him) discovered that they
>   didn't fall down dead just 'cuz they'd voted for a non-Democratic candidate.
>   This was the beginning of the end for the "solid South."  Trivia question
>   for extra credit:  Why was the South a one-party bastion for so long?
>

That's easy. The Republicans were responsible for "Reconstruction". (And if
you think I don't like 'deconstruction', try me on 'Reconstruction'! :-))
It took over 100 years for a Southern state to vote Republican again (1972).

Regarding 'theme songs' for the Bill & Al Show: this has been a topic of
discussion on the heavily pro-Clinton R.E.M. list (murmur@athena.mit.edu) for
the last two days. My concern is that we'll all end up singing the Beatles'
"Taxman". :-(

David
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:47:58 EST
From:         Ken <VME106@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Louie, Some Girls, Janis,etc..

I have had a hard time figuring out lyrics myself, especially Louie Louie!!!
When Janis sings "one day near Salinas" it sure sounds like "one day I mescalin
ed us" to me.  Also, the name of the guy in the Eagles "Life in the Fast Lane"
I thought was Fester because to me the song went "Fester, Fester, the lights
are turning red!"  And Jim Morrison immortalized the phrase `piss moaning' for
me when he sang "I woke up `piss moaning' and got myself a beer"--just a few of
my misguided interpretations.  Anyone else got any???
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Subject: Re: Wrap ourselves in The Constitution
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:16:00 GMT
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Maybe it's me but I could have sworn I signed up for a list discussing all
types of music, not the Constitution and the definitions of words.
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 15:13:46 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Public Enemy

>I'd just like to say that there are excepted standard morals.  Public
>Enemies morals do not coincide with those morals.  You by their music.
>They become more famous.  They become figure-heads.  Kids idolize them.
>Our world turns upside down.
>
>Corny?  Perhaps.
>
>Factual?  I think so.
>
>Mike

  Concerning my earlier defense of mike and attack of pat....

  While I'll stand by my attacks on pat, I thought I was
defending Mike Masuda.  My apologies for any confusion.

  Um, and as concerns the above, I vote corny.

  Screw the expected public morals.  Be an original.
Be a Pepper.  Like all of us.

       -Tim"we are all individuals"J
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:15:09 CST
From:         A22596@ITESO.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Italian Is Musical? Sure!
              at

Hi, Allmusiciers!

I've just read that someone defends Italian as a musical languaje, and some
others defend English. Of course, I defend Spanish, even taking a gun
from my jacket. But every languaje has its own rithm and music, Vgr. Nahoa
languaje from ancient mexicans (before Columbus, and so), Quechua, Mayan,
Hindi and some Bangladeshian dialects, perform a natural music, 'cause
of their own sounds.

C
If Mozart wrote operas ien German (could someone confirm this, please?), is
'cause he discovered music in a so hard-sounding languaje, as this is
a public's domain term, there is no needing on bumping 'round and 'round.

As I speak Spanish, I can give some samples, if someone wants. For example:

People from Mexico City speak Spanish in a so absurd rithm, that have became
famous all 'round Latin America.
Peple from Guadalajara (Such as I) are told that "sing" instead of talk,
Da:
and Mexico City's speaking is very different from Guadalajara's

BUT people from any of these places, neglect that sing.

Same thing must be in English or Italian or any other, vowels sound
different and people too.

Recommendings?

Meet someone (maybe an archeologist) that speaks Nahoa or Maya and amaze
yourself.


                Mario A. Calderon
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:53:59 EST
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      An out of Radio Experience

One of the "Arts & Leisure" spots on NPR's _Morning Edition_ this morning
was about singer/composer/cultural icon John Cale (not to be confused
either with John Cage or with JJ Cale), who, it seems, has a new album
out.  What struck me was that I felt I was in the middle of an ALLMUSIC
discussion.  In no particular order, they mentioned:

o  Lou Reed, who was Cale's partner in The Velvet Underground.
o  Leonard Cohen, who Cale befriended when LC first came to NY, and one
   of whose songs is on Cale's new album.
o  Aaron Copland and Leonard Bernstein both of whom sponsored Cale as a
   composer at Tanglewood in the early '60's.
o  Xenakis - Cale said that "watching Xenakis doing Fourier transforms at
   the blackboard and predicting the probability of a Bb occurring in the
   next four bars left me cold."
o  John Cage - in comparison to Xenakis -- both lectured at Tanglewood when
   Cale was there -- Cale said "listening to John Cage talk about Buddhism
   struck me as very much more what music was about."

I kept hoping that they'd find a way to work in Messiaen or Sonny Sharrock,
but no luck -- no Prokofiev, even.

I kept expecting to here one of y'all interviewed as part of the piece --
they covered so many of our group's interests.

BTW, from what they played of Cale's new record, it sounded pretty un-
interesting :(.

Now You Know.

-Scott "Working Hard Lately, No Time To Play" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:36:46 EST
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hank Crawford ?

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:14:05 CST Leonard Watkins said:
>A while back i asked about a Hank Crawford song it may have been Bluebird
>I doubt it though, it had the word blue in it, someone repsonded and told
>me the name of the album which it's on i was wondering if anyone could
>tell me again. I know i didn't give you much to go on, but i have faith
>in ya'll to provide the answer........L.W.

Here 'tis again Leonard. Don't delete this post until you buy the recording!

        Hank Crawford: Groove master.
                       Milestone MCD-9182-2
                       Recorded NYC, Jan.- Mar. 1990
        Personnel: HC, alto sax & electric piano
                   Melvin Sparks, guitar
                   Gloria Coleman, organ
                   Dr. John, piano
                   Wilbur Bascomb, bass
                   Bernard Purdie, drums
        Tunes:
              Grown and gone; There is a way; Blues for the red boy;
              Saving all my love for you; Bluebird; A toast to lovers;
              Holy moly; Canadian Sunset.

There. Don't lose it again, please.
A gift for you on behalf of a less homophobic ALLMUSIC,
Rick
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