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From: martin@kawa.ssl.fujitsu.co.jp (Simon Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Forbidden Zone.--What is it?
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:10:17 GMT
	<1992Apr8.004621.14224@tigger.jvnc.net>
Followup-To: alt.cult-movies
Organization: FUJITSU SOCIAL SCIENCE LABORATORY LIMITED, JAPAN.
In-reply-to: richh@tigger.jvnc.net's message of 8 Apr 92 00:46:21 GMT

> Originator: richh@tigger.jvnc.net
> Nntp-Posting-Host: tigger.jvnc.net

> jwishnie@roadkill.Stanford.EDU (Jeff Wishnie) writes:

>>I don't remember this movie. Anyone have a quick plot summary?

> It's a thinly-veiled account of the life of newspaper publisher
> William Randolph Hearst.  

> RICHH

Is this the Hearst who was involved with Marion Davis and was Marion
Davis's niece a lesbian? Also, did he have a high pitched voice and,
if so, Why?





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From: amurphy@cs.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: More about T2
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:42:44 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

>In article <1992Apr4.201326.6228@cs.yale.edu>, liu-edward@CS.YALE.EDU (Edward
>Liu) says:
>
>   Someone just pointed something out to me about T2.  If it weren't for the
>mass advertising blitz which told everybody and their cousin that Arnie was
>the
>GOOD Terminator in _T2_, it would have been really hard to tell which
>terminator was the "good" terminator and which one was the "bad" terminator.
>up until the shootout at the mall.  In fact, if you watch the movie not
>knowing
>about the plot but knowing about the first _Terminator_, you would probably
>think that Arnie actually *WAS* back to kill John Connor and that the T-1000
>was back to protect him.
>
>   Mass advertising -- gotta love it.  Comments?

T2 is an excellent example of this effect - I tried really hard to avoid clips
from the film and reviews, etc, but you still can't shield yourself totally.
There are loads of other movies that would have been much improved by minimal 
plot exposure...

One of my friends once said that if he produced a film, it would have a grey
poster with the name of the film on it, and no trailers ( perhaps a bit
unrealistic, but makes the point ).

I guess most people knew about the chest-burster in Alien before they went to
see it... imagine seeing that one without knowing about it !! Although I
can't remember the trailers for Alien, I'd certainly already heard about the 
whole thing before I saw it.

I really feel that the trailers shown for films are way too long - now you've
practically seen the whole film ( even in time order in some cases !! ) before
you go to see it if you've seen a trailer ( especially the ones shown in
cinemas - not so much the TV adverts ).

An excellent example of a good film trailer IMHO is James Cameron's Aliens 
trailer - it was scary, atmospheric and showed extremely brief snippets 
of the film without giving anything away.

-- 
Allan J. Murphy.                    \  "Jack, relax - get busy with the facts. /
                                    /   No zodiacs or almanacs -               \
amurphy@cs.strath.ac.uk             \   No maniacs in polyester slacks...."    /
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: aka?
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:37:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45323
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

sue%miracle@merk.com (The Dragon Queen) writes:
}jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:
}>}|]|.|].|>|}>|>>>>}}>-enrique aka juggler
}>}|]|.|].|>|}>|>>>>}}Eccles aka What?
}>}|]|.|].|>|}>|>>>>}Phil aka this is how this whole long aka starts..
}>}|]|.|].|>|}>|>>>>Jester aka it is?????
}>}|]|.|].|>|}>|>>>Tia aka it is!!!!!!!!!!!
}>}|]|.|].|>|}>|>>MSNOI!! aka I refuse to add to this list. (oh, shit!)
}>}|]|.|].|>|}>|>Tia aka silly boy, you just did (giggle  ;) )!!
}>}|]|.|].|>|}>|Dougger aka So What??
}>}|]|.|].|>|}>Jos aka Probably Cause He Ain't Got No List-Adding-Aka License! *Laarg*!
}>}|]|.|].|>|}Phil aka not the other Phil!
}>}|]|.|].|>|Jester aka this looks like fun
}>}|]|.|].|>Jos aka Yes It Does, But Do We Allow Non-Aka-Members To Participate?
}>}|]|.|].|Tia aka no, cos they may be members of the bogus Nnne!
}>}|]|.|].Jos aka AAaarghHh! No! Not The Members Of The Nnnnne Gang! Help! Help! Help!
}>}|]|.|]. Morjens aka I still think we should sic the bishop on them!
}>}|]|.|]Dan aka Why stop at that?  Lets cut their arms off and make them eat Jester in a Hollandaise sauce!
}>}|]|.|Jester aka eat me??? but I'm not kosher
}>}|]|.Jos aka Not Kosher You Say? What's Wrong With Your Hoofs Then?
}>}|]|Dan aka Ya' know Jes'.  I think it really depends on how we kill you.
}>}|]|(AGG!!!  I just had a near miss with a real MP quote!  Whew.)
}>}|]Jos aka I hope Little Jester's A Ruminant, 'Cause I'm Not Gonna Chew His Cud
}>}|Jester aka I taste like grass, trust me
}>}Jos aka Siberian Steppe Grass Or Mongolian Tundra Grass?
}>Jester aka Spanish Flossing Grass I believe......
}Sue aka Does that mean if we eat you, we can use what's left to clean our
}teeth?
Jester aka good question, Jos can you field this one?
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From: rwyatt@niji.claremont.edu (Robert Wyatt)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Street Trash
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:45:56 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College

Has anyone out there seen Street Trash ?!!!!

It is a definite MUST for all cheese/horror fans !

In truth, the film is very well made, sporting some excellent camera  
work.  The writing is pretty good (given the subject matter...), and  
the performances are, well, interesting...  Ever seen Frankenhooker ?   
The "mad scientist" guy plays a mafia boss's doorman in Street Trash.

Check it out !  Watch it once and be disgusted....Then watch it again  
for its interesting, albeit warped, social commentary !

Let me know what you think !
From: cn09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Kalevi Nuuja)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Groove Tube
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:22:08 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Is this the movie with the talking penis?

I saw a movie with a talking penis.
It was on at 4:00 am, when everything is silly to begin with.  I was 16.
I hyperventilatedly laughed when the penis talked, then I fell asleep.

I have seen "the Groove tube" on video tape, but somehow, have never
rented it.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: aka???
From: phygod72@nic.gac.edu (Phil )
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:54:32 -0600

Phil aka just seeing what I can start
From: dekorte@next2.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen Dekorte)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Dune (was RE: Blue Velvet)
Date: 4 Apr 92 11:45:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: sun13.8039

In article <1992Mar27.195408.15787@b11.ingr.com> gary@rocker.ingr.com  
(Gary Braswell) writes:
> 	fee, but don't show it to someone who isn't familiar with Frank
> 	H.'s novel, because they won't know what the story line is, and
> 	from experience, people don't generally like having a novel
> 	explained to them when they are watching a movie version of it 

I don't know about 'most people',but I don't think I would have enjoyed
the movie nearly as much if I had read the book first. I liked the
mysteriousness of the whole thing - figuring out the big picture by
sticking the peices together,etc. I guess this is a big part of why I
like shows like 'The Twighlight Zone',the plot isn't just spoon feed -  
there's actualy some thought involved. 

Steve Dekorte
From: robynn1@perdita.gac.edu (Robyn Ness)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Poor sod with a dead hampster(Cheez Whiz & Tang)
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:31:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr11.113155.792

In article <DJOHNSON.92Apr9181848@cayenne.gac.edu>  writes:
> I'll come, but tell me this.  Will you serve Cheez Whiz Sandwhiches?
> I just *live* 'em.  With a little tang on the side.

Dan, darling, I just wrote a deeply sensitive poem about Tang and Cheez  
Whiz for my writing class.  I am beginning to remember why I once married  
you...<sniff>...which I suppose is a bad thing since that means the shock  
thereapy treatment didn't take and I'll have to go and have it done again.  

Robyn @#& It only feels like a slight <AAAAAiiiggggghhhhhh> tingle on the  
scalp, kinda like using Denerex...
From: mitch@nic.gac.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: aka
Keywords: none
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:01:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr13.160120.850
Reply-To: mitch@nic.gac.edu

In article <44897@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>  writes:
%>The Madman aka Well, let's have some fun!
%Jester aka I`m sorry, but you didn`t ask permission to use aka!!!
The Madman aka Well, isn't that just too bad!?

--
I do not claim to know everything.  I do not claim to know anything.
I claim to know that I do not know everything or anything.
				-- The Madman
From: stevez@pogo.wv.tek.com (Stephen A Zimmerman)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: "North by Northwest" - Why the title?
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:43:12 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <1992Apr13.141814.16108@acsu.buffalo.edu> v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (We make money the ole fashioned way. We beat people for it.) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.124622.11034@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de>, dfi@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Daniel Fischer) writes...
>>Having just seen Hitchcock's brilliant 'North by Northwest' again, I still
>>can't figure out what this title means. Where's the connection to the plot?
>>(This is one of the rare cases where the German title, Der unsichtbare Dritte =
>>the invisible 3rd man, seems to make more sense.)
>
>I believe the title refers to the direction of the fleeing plane that was going
>to take James Mason and company out of the United States. With Hitchcock,
>there was some more underlying meaningwith him.
>

Remembering film studies from high school, other meanings are....
	I believe that Cary Grant went after Eva Marie Saint by traveling
		North on Northwest airlines....toward Mt. Rushmore?
	I remember Mr. Pulakis (film studies teacher) saying that it referred
		to a famous quote (obviously not THAT famous) by Shakespeare? 

Good movie, by the way.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: spinoza@next03wor.wam.umd.edu (Prince Lev of the Domovoi)
Subject: Has anybody seen that realllllllllllly lame martial arts flick where the hero massages the bad guys temples to death or something like that
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 04:31:38 GMT

There was this reaaaaaaaaaaaaally lame kung fu epic wherein someone  
(i forget whether its the hero or the villain, has this hold where he  
clamps down on the temples of his victims, and squeezes hard enough  
ta kill.

Any idea?



thanks




lev

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From: TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: T1000 sampling
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:52:48 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Penn State University

Just a thought....

Has anyone considered that the T-1000 didn't need to touch the guard's flesh?
Maybe he just needed some type of physical contact with the outside of the
guy's form, and a shoe was good enough.  After all, he doesn't form the
victims' internal components, or even, it seems, their unexposed skin (remem-
ber those hundreds of bullet holes?  They didn't seem to blow away any fabric
shreds, they just made metallic holes on him.).  What we see as his clothes is
just his liquid metal's outer layer,not a set of synthesized clothing.  I think
the movie writers thought about this when they coordinated the sequence.  After
all, wouldn't the T-1000 have to sample the guy's shoes, belt, trousers, etc.
in order to make a copy of it all?  Otherwise, he'd be a naked 'replicant' (to
use a term from BladeRunner).

Like I said, just a thought.  I haven't really studied the sampling process of
terminators that much (restricted access to files on prototypes...you know how
it is.)

BTW, is the T-1000 a cybornetic organism?  Seems to me he's just a moving blob
of mercury, gallium, and a bunch of other poly-alloy stuff.  Where's the
'organism' in all that?  What does that make him?  A robot?  Or just a really
cool lookin' metal blob with a vengeful programmer?

"Confusion in his mind, the blind leads the blind.
         Yeah, Billy's got a gun!"
                               -Bill
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: lorne.murphy@rose.uucp (lorne murphy)
Subject: "555"
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:27:25 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.2)


Date Entered: 04-12-92 15:04
Has anyone seen "555"? I got it at the local video store a while back. It
features a $6 budget, home video camera footage, purple blood, and heads
being sliced off effortlessly. All in all a BAD movie, but hilariously
funny!!!


What about "MAGNITO", the cartoon parody featuring MAGNITO and SPIDERMAN?

Hilarious!

Does anyone consider YELLOWBEARD to be a cult flick?

LM
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From: tatum@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Thomas Tatum)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Akira:deepest animated movie out.
Date: 5 Apr 92 03:31:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: borg.11027
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

If anyone out there see's the movie AKIRA in video stores, rent it and
watch it.  It has to be one of the best animated movies ever made.  I
have been subscribed to this newsgroup for about a month and haven't
seen anyone talk about it, so I decided to enlighten you.

Upon the first watching you will miss some of the plot.  Since it is 
translated from Japanese, it is hard to keep the full effect of the
japaneese launguage meanings of words with the correct english
translations.  But I recommed watching it at least 4 or five times.  I
think once you do watch it and give it a chance you will watch it over
and over.

From rumurs I have heard it won the Japanese equivelent of the Oscar
over there.  And if you really want to get into the whole AKIRA
legend, there is an epic written that the movie is based on.  There
are some ausome comic series that are out and will blow you away.

My little brother turned me on to it two years ago.  He had a pirated
copy of it and we watched it and I was in awe!  It last for 2 and a
half hours.  I ussually hate longer movies, but we rewound it and
viewed it again.  Now they have officially released it, and its legal
to rent in most video stores.  Ask the manager for it (its probably on
the "managers choice" shelf).  If any one else is the AKIRA guru, mail
me because I have some questions.

Like,

1) what is the whole amoeba thing that tetsuo turns into at the end of
the movie?  I have always wondered about that.  Guess it has something
to do with the Japanese philosophy of total consumption.(I don't know)

2)  At the end of the movie, after every thing is over, you hear this
voice say, "I am tetsuo!" and these wild colors.  Was he supposed to
be the hero?  I hope not

Thanks in advance

Thomas Tatum
tatum@cs.unc.edu
"K-Mart Sucks" -- Raymond Babbit
From: jess%miracle@merk.com (Shi'nayne)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Heavy Metal Magazine
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 17:39:23 EDT
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

If anyone has back issues of the mag Heavy Metal, please mail me!!
Thanxs...

WQ


Vampire Hunters Inc.
jess%miracle@merk.com
If you have vampire problems, call!!  We'll
stake your problem right through the heart!!


Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: shinosjr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John R Shinoskie)
Subject: Re: T2 not a cult movie
Reply-To: shinosjr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John R Shinoskie)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:24:22 GMT

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  Any film with a devoted fan  
following can be considered cult.  I could spell it out further, but I  
don't think I need to.  Bring on the chainsaw!

	Schnozz
From: ted4646@zeus.tamu.edu (kid eternity)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: T1000 sampling
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:34:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <cdsA7Di00Uh_Q7R51i@andrew.cmu.edu>, ml40+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Lazich) writes...
>>This theory assumes that sampling is a passive process.  I believe that
>>the T-1000 has to actively try to sample something to be able to
>>imitate it.  I don't think that cutting Sarah in the lift counts as
>>a sampling process, and I don't think that John touching a chunk
>>counts either.
> 
>How do you explain the sampling of the cop in the mental ward?  All he
>did was step on the T1000 while it was disguised as the floor.  Seems
>pretty passive to me, much more so than cutting Sarah--through *shoes*,
>no less!
> 
>Mike

I believe what the difference is between passive and active sampling is
the intent to sample.  Also another point may have been hearing a person's
voice.  When the security guard walked over the T-1000, the T-1000 was 
actively sampling.  The only part where the guard speaks (and T-1000 can 
hear him) is when he says "It must be my lucky day".  From that point on, 
the T-1000 could imitate the guard.  An aside:  actually, the guard
didn't have a winning cup.  One Jack, two Queens, and one other pair does
not a full house make.

With respect to Sarah Conner being not sampled in the elevator, the intent 
of the T-1000 to sample a victim was not present.  I believe (by the sharp,
pointy sticks it made) the T-1000's intent was to kill whoever was in the 
elevator.  It has been a few weeks since I have seen T2, but I do not 
believe that Sarah did speak at anytime the T-1000 was around her (someone
else on this newsgroup said that it heard her "many times").  If this is
true, this is the reason why the T-1000 kept telling Sarah to "Call John."
When it said this, I thought that the only reason why he was saying this
was to hear Sarah Conner say something so later he could copy her voice.


thomas
From: csroc@dime.prime.com (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: comfort and joy
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:30:23 GMT
Reply-To: csroc@dime.UUCP (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2)
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

>	one fine winter night some months ago, i was sitting in
>my room and watching tv, when out of nowhere this excellent movie
>appeared on my telly.  has anyone else seen "comfort and joy" or 

Sharon...you must be smoking that funny weed...intelligent
movies about Scots called "Dickie Bird" do not appear anywhere
on network TV.  The Ice Cream mafia,hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,talk.bizarre
From: jperkins@bingsuns (Jill T. Perkins)
Subject: Re: The Forbidden Zone.--What is it?
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:00:51 GMT

dascoser.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:

>richh@tigger.jvnc.net (RICHH) writes:

>> jwishnie@roadkill.Stanford.EDU (Jeff Wishnie) writes:
>> 
>> >I don't remember this movie. Anyone have a quick plot summary?
>> 
>> It's a thinly-veiled account of the life of newspaper publisher
>> William Randolph Hearst.  
>> 
>> 
>> RICHH
>> 

>Is this the one where we find out that Rosebud was his first rocketship 
>:)


>Dascoser


actually, "spacehunter: adventures in the forbidden zone" peter strauss, molly ringwald, ernie hudson,
and michael ironside, (from highlander ii), as overdog, the villian.


jill t. perkins
jperkins@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu  

r
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty)
Subject: Re: eepest animated movie out.
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 13:45:47 EDT

I have a factory-boxed copy of Akira ... it's letterboxed and
subtitled in English.  I noticed that a sequel to Akira is
available on video.  Now I'm sorry I didn't buy it, as well.
Does anybody have any information on it?
 
Also, I have TETSUO on video.  Excellent film, except that I'm
not sure what everything means.  Can someone explain this film?
Is it about sexual disease?  The omnipresence of automation?
Am I attempting to read a film that has no deep meaning?
 
Thanks.  Pete Correnty.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: ketter@mdd.comm.mot.com (Cindy Ketterling)
Subject: Re: F-word (was Re: Blue Velvet)
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:51:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.143822.5409@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) writes:
>
>And the award for the most gratuitous use of the word "fuck" in a movie
>goes to...Robert Deniro in _Midnight Run_.
>

Sorry, but I'm going to have to vote for Steve Martin's rental-car speech
from _Planes, Trains, and Automobiles_.  Had me howling ... 

>
>--
>McCreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com     Computers are like Old Testament gods;
>Me? Speak for Compaq?  Yeah, right.   lots of rules and no mercy.
>                                                             Joseph Campbell

- the Cypherkat
"Come back, kitty-witty!  We have skydiving lessons at four!"
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: READ THIS!!!!!!!! IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:21:10 GMT

kallen@cs.utk.edu (Karl Allen) writes:

>As for cult movies (ha! I've ensured another 24 hours of aka drivel!)
>anybody ever see Eraserhead and like it? I tried to watch it a couple weeks
>back. My brother bailed out after half an hour, I quit fifteen minutes 
>after that. It just couldn't keep my interest. Did things get better, or
>at least make anything close to sense? 

I managed to sit through about an hour's worth of "Eraserhead."  It
does NOT become any easier to understand as time goes on.  "Eraserhead"
reminds me of the "Sledgehammer" video, only in black-and-white, and
with no music, and it lasts two hours instead of five minutes.  I felt
bad that I had spent the $2 to rent it.


                                      --Steve Stelter
                                        sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: d91-jal@nada.kth.se (Johan Almen)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: T2 is *so* full of holes - ENOUGH!
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:56:51 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

Come on now guys! Anybody over 10 years of age can find flaws in
T2. Why do you have to rip it apart like this? It was a very 
entertaining movie, with *great* fx, and I think that is exactly
what it's meant to be. So - Enough haggling!

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