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From: slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos)
Subject: Re: Rumor: IBM out of hardware business????
Organization: UNLV Computer Science
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 04:14:55 GMT

In article <1jpjabINNlsh@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>There has been a rumor around this here part that IBM made an official
>announcement on Fidonet that they are dropping out of the hardware
>business. I don't have Fidonet access and can't confirm this. Anyone
>have such access and seen this announcement out there??  No more PS/1,
>PS/2? The end of their clone line only fater being out for a couple of
>months? Any clarifications? IBM, are you out there reading Usenet?

I just saw a IBM Thinkpad 700C at an OS/2 users group meeting last
night. There is no way they are getting out of the hardware business
anytime soon. For anyone who HASN'T seen the Thinkpad 700/C, SEE one.
They are completely awesome. There is a mouse joystick on the home row
of the keyboard, people were loving it after about 10 minutes of use.
By far the most awesome feature is screen. I could NOT tell the
difference between the screen and a real VGA monitor. No ghosting and
F-A-S-T! Other things included are awesome IBM keyboard (of course),
removable 120meg hard drive, and ability to charge while running from
wall power. It is a 486 and comes with 8megs of RAM. Educational price
is $3300. BTW, nobody is going to have this monitor (which is from
Toshiba) for at least a year, because IBM has bought all of them for
the next 11 months.

TTYL - Steve
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From: mathur@server.uwindsor.ca (Amok User)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Printer Problem - WinOS2 3.1 & OS/2 2.1beta
Keywords: Printer Problem Beta Win-OS/2
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:05:39 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Would it be possible to use the actual Win3.1 driver?

I don't really want to give up the PCL5 support (especially with CorelDraw)...


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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Wish List
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:39:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.063203.13560@cs.brown.edu> wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes:
>>>9.  Improved DOS and OS/2 windowed session speed in 8-bit color. (may be the
>>>    the drivers limitations, tho)
>>The jump scrolling would help, naturally.
>No. Basically, I think the SVGA driver for Tseng chips is too slow. The
>same card under Linux+X-Windows is much faster in video scrolling,
>even I turn off the jump scroll feature in X-terms. The old X386 driver
>for ET?000 chips used to be criticized as awfully slow, like what I
>see in OS/2 2.0+SP. After a guy in UT Austin rewrote the driver
>in assembly, the card gives you the performance of Sparc.
>In my opinion, IBM (or the video card vendors) should look into the
>cards carefully in order to take full advantage of the cards.  I can't
>program under WPS using the Windowed OS/2 + Emacs. It's rather painful
>to switch the monitor from full screen to WPS (and the click of my
>Sony monitor really scares me a lot).

The click is fine -- monitors are supposed to do that.  If they
didn't, then you should worry.  :-)

Good idea, naturally, but then you run into the problem of losing
"generic" support for all those SuperVGA adapters.  You can optimize
for one, but then you won't necessarily benefit Trident.

I think a useful approach would be for IBM to write 800x600 16 color
and 1024x768 16 color "generic" drivers as well.  (Actually, the
800x600 is already available -- Joel Armengaud wrote that.)

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From: coulman@cs.Usask.CA (Randy Coulman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Warning! Gateway 2000/ATI Ultra Pro Local Bus & OS/2 SrvPk
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:53:53 GMT
Reply-To: coulman@cs.Usask.CA
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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In article <1993Jan20.045324.21334@dhw68k.cts.com>, daveegan@dhw68k.cts.com (Dave Egan - N6XVZ) writes:
>I want to warn others to difficulties I have experienced attempting
>to apply the OS/2 v2.0 SERVICE PACK.  I have attempted this on a
>Gateway 2000, 486-50 with an ATI Ultra Graphics Pro Local Bus Video
>card and the 1024NI monitor.
>

I have the 486-33 and haven't had any problems at all with the 
Service Pak.  I have a Nanao F550i monitor instead of the 1024NI,
though.

>It doesn't work.  There have been many postings on this newsgroup 
>asking about this (including my inquiries).  Gateway has no solution.
>ATI has no solution.  However our good friends at IBM are aware of
>it and have the good business sense to take responsibility for the
>solution.
>
>The OS/2 2.0 GA release and the ATI Drivers work fine.  Just stay away
>from the Service Pack with this hardware combination.  The only solution
>currently is to reload the 2.0 GA and ATI drivers.
>

I've been using the 8514 drivers.  They seem to work fine for me.

>Many people have been kind enought to offer possible solutions; they
>are all for naught.  IBM has an APAR for this and is working it.  Stick
>to the 2.0 GA!
>

Or use the 8514 drivers.

>Cheers,
>--
>-- 
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Randy
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From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Re: Anything like SOFTMAC available?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:14:46 GMT

In article <enk2.91.728024888@po.cwru.edu> enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:
>In article <93025.133917DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> <DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>>Is there anything available for OS/2 that will do MacIntosh emulation. Does
>>anyone know if this is even possible. And if not, at least a utility to read
>>in MacIntosh files. I tried the macutils found on hobbes, but that seemed to
>>be for reading Mac files into Unix, and not OS/2. Thanks for any info.
>
>I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY doubt that there is a Macintosh emulator
>for two reasons: hardware and the Macintosh copyrights that they have been,
>well, anal about.  Macintosh-formatted disks, I am pretty sure, cannot be
>read by PC's (although if you have a Mac, PC disks can be read/altered, so
>use a Mac to convert a file to FAT file system and THEN use the Macutils
>program).
You can read Mac disks directly as long as they are high density (super
drive) formatted disks.  I have a program called Mac-in-DOS which works
great...even under OS/2.  I use it all the time.  

As far as Apple copyrights go, the Atari ST and Amiga both have full
function Mac emulators that are just about 100% compatible to a Mac Plus.
They actually reqire you to plug real Mac 128k roms into them.  There is
no reason something similar couldn't be done with a PC (other than the
fact that ther PC uses an Intel processor while the above mentioned machines
all use Motorolas).  But stay tuned...I have heard something interesting
along these lines from Gadgets by Small, Inc.


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From: eric@tgm.CAM.ORG (Eric Trepanier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Mark/Copy Bug
Date: 25 Jan 93 05:13:26 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized?

fiv2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu writes in article <1993Jan24.161325.15241@news.columbia.edu>:
> 
> 
> Try this:
> 
> Open two DOS sessions - one running DOS EDIT.EXE
> type any text file in the other, e.g. 'type config.sys'
> Mark and copy some text: e.g.
> SET PATH=C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM
> Go to the other session and paste it.
> I am getting similar to:
> SE TPATH=C:\OS 2;C:\OS2\S YSTEM
>   ^           ^          ^

The culprit is EDIT.COM (which is actually just QBASIC.EXE /EDITOR in disguise)
It won't accept data from the OS/2 clipboard whether VIDEO_FASTPASTE is enabled
or not.  Actually, it does accept data but only enough to scramble like in your
example above.  Try pasting a real large chunk of text and you'll see.

This was the case since 2.0 GA and has not changed in 2.1 beta.

It should be noted that the same QBASIC editor does accept characters from the
clipboard under MS-Windows, but so slowly that it makes paste operations
useless for all intents and purposes.  This is probably due to some sloppy
programming in QBASIC rather than a problem with the Operating System.


Eric
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Focus moves with mouse?
Keywords: mouse, focus, foreground, background
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:51:07 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1k3tmeINNkdt@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh) writes:
>Can OS2 seperate focus and foreground? That is what I would want!

Yes.  An application can choose not to let the system handle all the
default processing for the relevant messages and this effect can be
produced for individual apps.  To affect the entire system, the
default handlers (part of PM) would have to be altered, but it isn't a
major change, as far as I can tell.


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From: jlloyd@adapcal.UUCP (John Lloyd)
Subject: Re: info on SCSI with CD-ROM and Bernoulli
Organization: Adaptec Inc., California
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:35:42 GMT

In article <00966DC7.68C5A060@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> oususasm@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>WANTED
>
>	information on OS2 working with a Bernoulli 90 Pro and CD-Rom off of
>the same SCSI Adapter.
>
>	Has anyone successfully run both a Bermoulli and a CD-ROM (Sony) off of
>the SAME Scsi controller.  Is it possible to get OS2 to recognize both devices? 
I used the Bernoulli and a Toshiba CD-ROM on the 1542B. I had no problem
getting both devices recognized.


jlloyd@adapcal.com
From: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 a dead end?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 07:14:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
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According to dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap):
>But unlike tabloid figures, nobody on Earth wants to be BG's "love
>slave".

>  |)  David Charlap          | .signature confiscated by FBI due to
> /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu | an ongoing investigation into the
>((|,)                        | source of these .signature virusses
> ~|~

You know, I think this "Love Slave" bit could turn into a great song
parody.  I mean, I can't recall it off hand, but aren't there some "Love
Slave" type songs out there?  If so, we could probably spin off a good Bill
Gates medley for IBM's next karaoke party :-)

Or we could just come up with some appropriate song titles for Mr. Gates.
I think They Might Be Giants' "Dig My Grave: or "Snowball in Hell" would be
apropos :-)
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From: baloo@nx01.mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Why can't I increase my dos window size??
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:11:15 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Why can't I increase my dos window size?  I've looked through every help file
on windows and not ONE of them tell you how to increase the window size.  I
have a 12 point font in a tiny little window I can't expand.  It simply wont
let me expand past this one point no matter which button i drag the window
with!  Help!  I can't see a thing in these tiny windows.  
kevin c]

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From: rabe@math22.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (Matthias Rabe)
Subject: Speedstar 24X and OS/2 2.1 ?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:27:17 GMT
Organization: Math MadHouse Bielefeld, Germany

A friend of mine has problems using SVGA modes with his Speedstar 24x under 
OS/2 2.1. The installation works, after a reboot he has the desired mode
(not he - his graphics card), but after a power down the monitor gets out
of sync.

Anyone a idea???

Matthias

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From: hall@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Chris Hall)
Subject: 2.1 beta vs the spooler
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:13:50 GMT



After installing 2.1 beta over GA+SP, printing crashes the
system with a trap 000d error. I have worked around the
problem by stopping printing during spooling and by moving
the spool directory to my D drive. This problem is independent
of video mode. I have 8 Meg, and with the earlier set up, I
often had swap file growth, so all of the memory should have
been `exercised'.

With the work around, my video loses sync for about 2 seconds
(trident 8900C with 1Meg) and then spontaneously recovers at
the end of spooling, but I have only noticed this while in
Win-OS2. Is this a known problem. I have not disabled spooling
which was referred to in the readme file. I like the win3.1
support, but if the beta is this flakey, I may go back to 
GA+SP which was very stable.

Chris Hall
chall@geo.lsa.umich.edu

.
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Possible to install OS/2-2.1 beta from second hard drive?
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:34:43 GMT
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates

In article <1993Jan22.223116.28899@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>beta from my second harddrive to my first HD without making the 20+
>>installation disks?  If so, how?
...
>No.  Not using the diskette images files.  (If you had the entire
>contents of the CD-ROM, you could.)

How? (I have the CD, but, alas, an unsupported CD ROM drive)

I.e., is it a simple trick that you can share, or do I really need
to buy the $7 book from IBM to find out how to do it?

Also, is there any way to install from 5.25" diskettes onto a machine
where the A: drive is 3.5"?  I'm assuming the answer is no - just checking.
(There is something on hobbes that allows you to do it the other way -
install from 3.5" onto a 5.25" A: drive)
And of course, you can switch the cables, but that's not a solution -
it's a workaround...

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From: jdolske@andy.bgsu.edu (justin dolske)
Subject: Re: How to delete printer drivers?
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:01:33 GMT

rwyble@schunix.uucp (Richard J. Wyble) writes:
> 
> I am trying to delete the driver for NECSilentwriter 95, a PostScript
> driver, and am having difficulty making it disappear.

  This one stumped me for awhile, but I found it in the online help, of all
places! :) From your printer object, got Open -> Settings, select Printer
Driver tab on the notebook. In the windows labeled "Printer driver" right-click
on the one you want to delete. You'll get a pop-up with delete as one of
the choices. Install is also here, which I don't remember finding last time I
was installing a new driver... 
 
Justin
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From: kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: A useful function key during install to chase problems
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:59:48 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

When installing the 2.1 beta, the install process simply hung after loading
about 5 or 6 files from disk 13.  The drive just stopped spinning.  I sat and
waited for several minutes and nothing happened.  I sometimes think that the
programmers who wrote the installation program at IBM really wish they were
writing adventure game software.  Every time I install OS/2, it is a unique
adventure! 

I did not want to CTRL-ALT-DEL, so I started poking at the keys to see if I
could get the install program to continue.  When I pressed F3 (if I recall
correctly), an OS/2 window popped up.  I found a secret door!

I ran a chkdsk on the drive where the install was taking place and chkdsk
reported that the last file loaded was corrupted.  Sigh!  Why couldn't the
install program report this problem?  It knew it had a problem when it decided
to stop copying files from the A drive to the hard disk.

When I tried the install again, it stopped again at the exact same file on
disk 13.  So, now I concluded that the disk image was bad.  So, I rebuilt that
disk from the CD-ROM again and did the install a third time.  This time it
completed successfully.

If IBM does not do something to improve the installation program with
intelligent error detection and reporting, OS/2 will die due to user
frustration, not because of anything fundamentally wrong with the operating
system.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:36:06 -0500 
From: Ke-Wei Ma <km4c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: XGA what?

    I was just reading some doc regarding that OS/2 2.1 beta does not
support Radius XGA-2 video board.  My question is of what use is a XGA
compatible card if it isn't hardware compatible?  I must be missing
something so someone please enlighten me.

Ke-Wei
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mlord@bmers63.bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
Subject: Re: Did DCF/2 ship on the 18th?
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:18:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.001616.6646@desire.wright.edu> slam@discover.wright.edu (Sau Chun Lam) writes:
>In article <1993Jan18.220123.242@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>>Any know if DCF/2 shipped on the 18th? I know the 18th is still underway in
>>North America, but I thought I'd get in early.
>
>No such luck.  :-<
>
>Called then on Friday (15th January) and a lady told me that shipping
>has been delayed - no reasons given. They are now shooting for the
>end of January.

Definitely *the* candidate for the "Vapourware of 1992" Award!  Maybe '93 also?
From: eric@tgm.CAM.ORG (Eric Trepanier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Why are os/2 manuals so usless?
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:26:44 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized?


In article <1993Jan20.100717.18052@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

 > I'm inclined to say the paper docs of the 2.0 GA release were sufficient - they > did their job (being to get the system up and running). If users are interested > in fine tuning or serious trouble shooting, let them attack the online manuals. > 
 > (and before anyone darts in with "What if you can't read the online docs due to > some bug/problem ?", I would point out that these online documents need not be  > in INF format, and indeed the trouble shooting manual (at least) should be
 > accessible from the OS/2 command line in a floppy boot situation.
 
Well personnally, I much prefer the DOS 5.0 / Windows 3.1 manuals then the
OS/2 2.0 leaflets.  They are much more detailed and cover a lot of aspects
that can't be easily spotted in an online based documentation...

I for one, would definately welcome a well-written 600 page manual (like
the one included in Windows 3.1), that covers all the components / applets
of the OS/2 operating system.  Not necessary to go in extremely great 
details, the online doc is more appropriate for that.


Eric
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From: robert.heuman@rose.com (robert heuman)
Subject: OS/2 Password Protect
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:19:03 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-25-93 04:14
Does anyone know /has anyone tested the security of OS/2 passwords?

1. The password in OS/2 version 2.0 (and now in 2.1beta) for Automatic 
Lockup found when the right button is pressed on the desktop, then 
Open - Settings and then Lockup is selected from the menu.

2. The various passwords in OS/2 Advanced LAN version 3.0, such as the 
sign on password, entered at the workstation and set to the server (is 
it sent in the clear? - if not, is it trivially protected?), or the 
passwords for use ON the server(s).

I have been unable to get an answer from IBM (not overly surprising), 
and need this information, if I am to approve/disapprove the 
product's use due to security weaknesses.  No answer and I test 'till 
I figure it out (or reject the product for use, if I run out of time 
first).

Thanks in advance for any responses....

Bob
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