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From: Geoff.Peters@p10.f861.n800.z3.fidonet.org (Geoff Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: MIDI Question 4 U
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1992 00:19:21

 > I would like to have the Yamaha machine trigger the bass drum sound on the
 > D4 module *WHILE* I play the drum pads (which are triggering the D4
 > snare/cymbals/toms) at the same time.
 > 
 > The drum pad unit and the Yamaha drum machine only have MIDI IN and OUT (no
 > THRU).  Do I need to buy some type of mixer to merge the signals from the
drum
 > pads and the drum machine into the Alesis D4? 

That would be best, yes.

Might I suggest you grab your wallet and _run_ -- don't walk -- to your nearest
Anatek dealer and buy a Pocket Merge. A neat, no-frills, no-battery box not
much larger than a couple of matchmoxes that will do the job you wish.

 > Also, what exactly does MIDI THRU do for you?

Relay whatever comes in the MIDI IN port. Useful in daisy-chaining multiple
MIDI modules together. Tip: try and avoid daisy-chaining more than three MIDI
devices, as you can experience slight delays in the MIDI signal.


Geoff
(no .sigs on me!)


 * Origin: No! Not that! Not the Minimoog! (3:800/861.10)

Newsgroups: comp.music
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
Subject: Advice? Piano/computer chamber music 
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:33:12 GMT

I am a classical pianist who loves to play chamber music, but who can't  
always conveniently find other instrumentalists.   For example, I am ready  
to play the Brahms Cello Sonata (Op. 38), the Brahms Clarinet Sonata (Op.  
120, #2), and the Brahms Trio for Piano, Clarinet, and Cello (Op. 114),  
but can't currently find good players who have the time.  
   But I have a NeXTstation Turbo.  Ideally, I would like to take my LP  
recording of the 1968 Barenboim/Du Pre recording of the Brahms Cello  
Sonata, digitally record and store it on my NeXT, and then use a program  
to edit out Barenboim's piano part, leaving me with just Jacqueline Du  
Pre's gorgeous cello line to play through my stereo in the living room, to  
which I would gladly supply the piano accompaniment on my Steinway grand.  
  I know this is a pipe dream, but people are developing sophisticated  
software these days.  Does anyone know whether such software exists and  
what I would need to accomplish this feat?  If I had to, I would be  
willing to start with a recording already on CD.  
  I also have a great recording of the Trio (Georg Pieterson, clarinet,  
and two members of the Beaux Arts Trio, on a Philips LP).  Unfortunately,  
they take the last movement a little too fast for me.  So I would also  
like a program that will allow me to slow the music down, but then bring  
it back up to pitch at the slower tempo.  Does anything like this exist? 
Ed
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: jeynes@adobe.com (Ross Jeynes)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: How can I transfer samples from a Mac to an EMAX II (digitally)
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:52:37 GMT
Reply-To: jeynes@adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <hearst.724466941@cgl.ucsf.edu> hearst@cgl.ucsf.edu (David P.  
Hearst) writes:
> 
>  I was just informed that Sound Designer II does not support the EMAX  
II.

I'm looking at my SoundDesigner II manual, and it says "An RS-422 cable is  
required to use the Emax II 16 bit sampler with SoundDesigner II.  Always  
boot the Emax II with system software version 2.1.0 or higher."

In the paragraphs describing other samplers, it tells how to order the  
proper cable from Digidesign.

-ross      jeynes@adobe.com
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: Joerg.Spix@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg.Spix)
Subject: Re: Yamaha C1 question
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:42:14 GMT

I don't know whether the Yamaha C1 Computer is available now or not.

I think a Notebook/Laptop with a 386(sx)-processor AND a 8- or 16-bit slot
could be a better solution because of the processor. Hopefully a Roland
MPU-401 (compatible) card won't take too much room and power.

No personal experience, just an idea.

Joerg

(Joerg.Spix@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de)
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: barsz@bnr.ca (Peter Barszczewski)
Subject: Re: voice
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:53:39

In article <901003l.43.724441384@axe.acadiau.ca> 901003l@axe.acadiau.ca (MISHA LEBLANC) writes:

   Can the new 16 bit sound boards opperate a computer by spoken words instead 
   of typing?  I need to know.  thanks?

No.  What you are interested in is Voice Recognition software/hardware.  In
general a PC is simply not powerful enough on its own to perform the
computationally intensive operations required.  If you need to do this then
re-post a question in comp.dsp (digital signal processing) and they might
be able to help with advice on required hardware and software.

Regards,
--
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(barsz@bnr.ca)                |        :    :    :    :    :    :    :
Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.  |     3     3     3     3     3     3     3
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From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.music,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: IBM notation shareware?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:42:26 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

In a similar vein, can anyone recommend a music composition
program for the SoundBlaster..?

I'd like to create CMF files similar to the ones that come
with the SB, but so far all the music editing programs I've
found are MIDI oriented.
 
Commercial or Shareware, it doesn't matter, as long as it's
full featured and reasonably easy to use.
 
Thanks..!

BobR
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Distribution: world
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 13:08:21 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.music
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Anyone ever think of building new kinds of instuments?

In article <9212081901.aa21924@gate.demon.co.uk> you write:
>Won't happen because there's no market there. The only people who do this
>kind of thing are rich playboys and visionaries like Don Buchla.

And a good place to find out what some of them are doing is the Computer
Music Journal. They even had a special issue on alternative controllers
a couple of years ago.

Cheers,

Ross-c
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: jbaxter@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joel Kent Baxter)
Subject: Re: Uncompressing archived MIDI
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 02:29:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.020323.9149@leland.Stanford.EDU> jbaxter@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joel Kent Baxter) writes:
>Help!
>
>I'm on a Mac IIfx, trying to uncompress some midi files that I downloaded from
>an ftp server.  The files are of types ".arc" and ".zip".  I picked up some
>programs from sumex-aim with promising names like "ArcMac", "UnZip",
>"UnZip MAC", and "ZipPop", but when I try to use them the following things
>occur:
>
>	1)  ArcMac crashes the Mac (I have to reboot from the debugger).
>	2)  The various un-Zipping programs tell me that the ".zip" files
>	    are in the wrong format, mumbling various error messages about
>	    "central directories" not existing, being damaged, or being in
>	    the wrong format.  I have tried this on several different ".zip"
>	    files, so it's not the target file that's the problem.
>

	    ...I've managed to generate yet another error, if this rings a bell
	    with anyone: "invalid zipfile header".


>Have I missed something here?  Please email me if you can provide some
>enlightnment...
>
>
>			Thanks,
>
>			JB
>


Newsgroups: comp.music
From: jbaxter@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joel Kent Baxter)
Subject: Uncompressing archived MIDI
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 02:03:23 GMT

Help!

I'm on a Mac IIfx, trying to uncompress some midi files that I downloaded from
an ftp server.  The files are of types ".arc" and ".zip".  I picked up some
programs from sumex-aim with promising names like "ArcMac", "UnZip",
"UnZip MAC", and "ZipPop", but when I try to use them the following things
occur:

	1)  ArcMac crashes the Mac (I have to reboot from the debugger).
	2)  The various un-Zipping programs tell me that the ".zip" files
	    are in the wrong format, mumbling various error messages about
	    "central directories" not existing, being damaged, or being in
	    the wrong format.  I have tried this on several different ".zip"
	    files, so it's not the target file that's the problem.

Have I missed something here?  Please email me if you can provide some
enlightnment...


			Thanks,

			JB

Newsgroups: comp.music
From: russest@ampex.com (Steve Russell)
Subject: Re: classical music recording and Mac's
Organization: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City CA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:40:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.073902.22291@news.columbia.edu> cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Charles W Tang) writes:
>Hi!  Could someone please recommend a book on how to make classical
>music recordings with a Mac?
>
>I need to know basic things like what kind of microphones to get, where
>to place them, what software to use....
>
>Oh, and how does one make one's own CD?
>
>Any info will be appreciated.  Please reply by e-mail.  Thanks.
>
>-Charles
>
>*** Om Ma-Ni Pad-Me Hung *** | "Hey, Charles, have you been 'waiting' all
>============================ |  your life?" -- Thao D. "the creature" Vo
>   Charles Wei-Ting Tang     | ===========================================
>cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu  | 201 W.72nd St.,#8J, NYC 10023  212/580-5609

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

Nope....Don't think a recording CD is quite inside your budget.....

-steve
From: v143pfey@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MAN OF BOHEMIA)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Laptops
Keywords: Laptops and MIDI
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am thinking of getting into MIDI, but I have a problem:  I have a
Laptop with no Busports and no slots.  All I have is a serial and a
Parallel.  Is there a MIDI interface that will connect to the serial            or parallel that is Roland MPU-  compatible?  I saw one made by Key,
but it is not compatible.












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From: eric@muttley.ucsd.edu (Eric Lyon)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Need computer music textbook
Date: 19 Dec 1992 17:28:25 GMT
Organization: Department of Music, UC San Diego
Distribution: inet
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The most comprehensive survey of the computer music field to date is
Elements of Computer Music by F. Richard Moore. Although some of the material
presented may be too technical for a beginning course, the overall outline of
the text provides a solid introduction to the subject. I've found that the
book ages well as a reference, containing much useful DSP math and code.
There isn't any good survey of the computer music repertory but you 
can glean useful information about specific pieces and composers from 
any number of books available on electro-acoustic music.
From: theodore-michael@yale.edu (Michael Theodore)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: MIDI book question
Date: 20 Dec 1992 16:20:38 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <92354.113357IK80014@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Andrew Paradis <IK80014@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>    I am looking for a book titled "C Programming for MIDI"
>by Jim Conger, but I have been told (by our local bookstore)
>that it is no longer in print.  If anyone has a copy they
>would like to get rid of, or if they know where I might still
>be able to find a copy, I would appreciate knowing of it.

I don't know about finding the book (besides checking libraries), but as
of at least three months ago the source code for the book was still
available from the publishers (M&T books).
	-Michael


-- 
Practice random acts of randomness.........
		theodore-michael@cs.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: thomasd@tps.COM (Thomas W. Day)
Subject: WANTED: a copy of Passport's Score for PC
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:02:03 GMT

If anyone has a copy of a current version of Passport Score for sale, I'm 
interested.

Either reply to my NET address or call 800-354-0995 Ext 226

Thanks,

 Tom Day
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From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Internet MIDI jamming service?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:21:48 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <Bz3wE1.DpM@brunel.ac.uk> (comp.music,rec.music.makers.synth), ee91ajh@brunel.ac.uk (Adam J Holt) writes:
> 
> Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen (cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
> 
> : OK, here's my question to all you musicians out there. How about a
> : site you can telnet to on a special port, (with appropriate software
> : ofcourse) send midi packets to that site (from your synth, guitar, whatever)
> : and receive the other peoples midi packets back, with your own. That way
> : people could have a jamming session on the net! Maybe open a second telnet
> : port for on-line chat at the same time? People could actively participate
> : in making music sans frontier, and others could just plug in from all
> : over the world just to listen to what's going on.....
> : With 10 musicians on a site at a time, you could have a blast at a virtual
> : jam-session. Whadja say?
> 
> 	This sounds like the real time side of NetJam - (send some mail with
> 	the message line 'request for info' to netjam-request@xcf.Berkeley.EDU
> 	for details of this).
> 
> 	I haven't explored it coz I can't see it working on a global basis.
> 	The internet is a bummer speed-wise - simple text MUDs and BBS's are
> 	very slooowww across the atlantic link - how then could music a
> 	time-critical communication work globally? I don't know if it would
> 	even work locally - but then I haven't tried it :-)
> 
> 	cheers...

I would imagine that when services like ISDN are common place this
might be possible to do.  For now, I think it was talked about on
the net and the problem with MIDI is that it is very real-time.  Events
can't be qued which is different from most networking.

David
david@roth-music.com
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: tapas@esri.com (Tapas Das)
Subject: Re: Professional Reverb under $2000
Organization: Environmental Systems Research Institute
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:20:09 GMT



Hello Friends,

Thanks to everybody who posted or emailed me all their helpful tips
on various reverb units they had worked with.

I was looking for a professional quality main reverb for my home studio.
I personally auditioned the following units:

Ensoniq DP4
Yamaha SPX1000
Korg A1
Sony DPS R7
Lexicon LXP-15
Lexicon PCM 70
Roland RSP 550
 
All the above units are excellent.  There is very little to be critical
about their performance and are great buys for a home studio.
All the units except the R7 are multieffects.  They can also do delay
and modulation in addition to reverb.

If I were looking for a muliteffects device, I would have picked up the
Ensoniq DP4 without a moments hesitation.  You got to listen to this
unit to believe how much power and flexibility Ensoniq has crammed into
this $1475 marvel.

However, I  was looking for just a studio quality reverb and nothing else.
The Sony reverb was the clear winner.  It was a tough choice when you
consider the fact that just for a few more hundred dollars you can buy the
DP4 which does a *lot* more.

Anyway, I called up all the mail order companies, and Sweetwater gave
me the best deal on the R7.  I got this for $999 including delivery.

This is a true stereo-in stereo-out 18 bit reverb. It samples at 40kHz.
The imaging is stunning and the clarity of the wet signal will
amaze you.  The programming of the algorithms go *very* deep.

For instance the early reflection algorithm can be programmed with
48 (yes forty eight) distinct delays and level controls for channel
one *and* for channel 2.  I find myself spending more time spinning
the alpha dial than making any music.

This is a reverb that will make you go "WOW!" when you listen to string
patches on the O1/W played through it. 

At first I was annoyed with the audible hiss when you crank up the 
effects knob all the way up to max.  But after a few hours of playing
with it, I found, you never need to turn up the effects beyond position 3.
The reverb sounds deep enough at this level.  And yes, there is no hiss
if you keep the input level at 7.0, the dry level to 0, and the effects
level to 3.0.

I also heard the delay unit, the D7.  The delays are so clean, its as if
somebody is playing back a DAT recording with a time lag.  

The modulation unit M7 is equally impressive but at $1650 is out of my
budget range.

If Sony came out with a single unit that combined the quality of the 
R7, D7, and M7 at around $1600, it will blow the competition away.
The combined list price now is around $4000.      

This is not for amateurs like me.  I think the DP4 is the best         
multieffects for under $1500, while I would place the R7 as the 
best reverb under $1000. 


All comments are welcome!

Thanks,

Tapas Das
tdas@esri.com

Newsgroups: comp.music
From: boris@athena.eng.hou.compaq.com (Boris Litinsky)
Subject: Yamaha CLV570
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:36:35 GMT

I am thinking of buying this digital piano(Yamaha CLV-570). 
s it the best for the price or is FP-8 or some other digital piano better
in key action or sound? ($2000-3000 range)

Please email.

Boris

 
--
| Boris Litinsky	          "I came to the woods to live deliberately,  |
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From: tmplee@TIS.COM (Theodore Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.music,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Low-cost Mac Midi SW recommendations?
Date: 19 Dec 92 02:30:42 GMT
Reply-To: tmplee@TIS.COM
Followup-To: comp.music
Organization: Trusted Information Systems

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:48:05 EST
From: tmplee
(second try -- first one doesn't seem to have taken.)
(and yes, I've looked over the FAQ's and files)

Could someone recommend inexpensive (freeware or shareware would be
even better) Midi software for a Mac IIci?  I've found an inexpensive
adapter that plugs into the ADB (or maybe it was the serial port -- I
didn't look at the cable closely)(I assume that's the easiest route)
for $50, but the cheapest SW I've found (Trax?)  seems to be around
$100.  It's for someone who's a good amateur keyboard player and just
wants to connect his Casio 650 to his computer and have fun, nothing
professional.  I know a lot about classical music and a lot about
computers but have no idea what you use the Midi interface for and
hence what to look for. (I know WHAT Midi is, I just don't know what
kind of software people write for it.)

tmplee@tis.com


Newsgroups: comp.music
From: doogie@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeff House)
Subject: Re: 88 keys.  What for?
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:18:53 GMT

Hmm... I would venture to say that those who don't venture into the
upper 6 and lower 6 keys may be missing many nice additions to their
music, in the case that they aren't playing everything strictly by the
note, that is...

I do agree that most pianos sound kinda muddy in the low low end of the
piano, but given, as you said, a good Digital Piano (the Roland FP-8
immediately comes to mind, and to hand, for that matter :), the low end
can give a nice full growl to the bottom end of any orchestration, while
the high end can cut through like the razor sharp edge of a knife when
needed to add something that's "just missing" to the climatic ending of
a song.

I have played for about 18 years now, and have moved from piano to
keyboard to piano to keyboard (keyboard here representing less than 88
keys) and one of my biggest regrets has been playing, going for that
wonderful, full, powerful, accentive, building, low-end growl on a
keyboard and finding my hand falling off the end of the keyboard.  I
suppose that if I would order the requirements for purchasing a "piano
emulator," I would say:
		1- MUST have piano sound
		2- MUST have piano feel
		3- MUST have 88 keys
The first 2 go hand in hand, but if I removed JUST your hi-C on your
less-than-88-key-keyboard, wouldn't it eventually drive you crazy? :)

Thanks for starting this discussion, I'll be interesting in seeing other
comments :)

Doogie
In article <1g1kfeINNb36@fido.asd.sgi.com> gints@prophet.esd.sgi.com (Gints Klimanis) writes:
>Never quite understood why piano players insist on 88 keys for their
>controllers.  In my 10 years of piano lessons, I don't remember any
>pieces that break into the upper 6 and lower 6 keys.  Even Rachmaninoff.
>Since the high strung upper 6 keys go out of tune right away and the
>lower 6 sound too muddy on most pianos (excluding the best, of course),
>I understand their exclusion.
>
>Digital synthesizers have stable tuning, so I could see an 88-note
>unweighted keyboard. But I have yet to see one on the market.
>
>Any followups?


____________________________________________________________________________
    Jeff House                     "I am nobody telling everybody about
 house@dg-rtp.dg.com                somebody that can save anybody."
 doogie@catt.ncsu.edu 			 wjhouse@eos.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy)
Subject: Re: voice
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:14:27 GMT

In article <BARSZ.92Dec15135339@bmtlh168.bnr.ca> barsz@bnr.ca (Peter Barszczewski) writes:
>In article <901003l.43.724441384@axe.acadiau.ca> 901003l@axe.acadiau.ca (MISHA LEBLANC) writes:
>
>   Can the new 16 bit sound boards opperate a computer by spoken words instead 
>   of typing?  I need to know.  thanks?
>
>No.  What you are interested in is Voice Recognition software/hardware.  In
>general a PC is simply not powerful enough on its own to perform the
>computationally intensive operations required.  If you need to do this then
>re-post a question in comp.dsp (digital signal processing) and they might
>be able to help with advice on required hardware and software.
>
>Regards,
>--
>Peter A. Barszczewski         |           .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>(barsz@bnr.ca)                |        :    :    :    :    :    :    :
>Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.  |     3     3     3     3     3     3     3
>Montreal, Canada              |  D      D      D      D      D      D      D

There was a board out for pcs a few years ago which apparently let you
associate commands with spoken words in a limited fashion. The brother
of a friend of mine had his pc mounted in the Emergency Room he worked
at and could bring up data he needed by speaking to the computer.

Mike Healy

healy@nosc.mil
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