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From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Shutdown failure (?)
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:36:25 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1aq5fiINNltr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully) writes:
>
>In a previous article, dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) says:
>
>>
>>Some (poorly written) apps don't recognize the shutdown message.  They
>>don't pass it to the default handler, and they don't respond properly.
>>This effectively places the entire shutdown process on hold.  Try
>>killing various apps and seeing which one has to go before shutdown
>>proceeds. 
>>
>
>hmmm...interesting.  I've had this problem as well, but all I had
>running at the time was the system clock, DOS window and and OS/2 window.
>			     ^^^^^^^^^^^^

That stupid clock does this to me all the time!  The OS/2 system clock, as
neat as it looks, is written very poorly.  The settings page doesn't come
up unless you go to the original program object (not when you have the title
bar hidden, anyway), and it FREQUENTLY gets itself lost in the system somhow
so that you can't shut down.  And not only can you not shut down, you can't
even kill the process...not with the task manager, not with killem21.exe,
not with anything.

What OS/2 really needs is a kill command which will KILL NO MATTER WHAT.
I know you can do this in Unix using either kill -KILL or kill (9) or
something like that...
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From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Can't delete folder!
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:17:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: na
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Keywords: delete, folder, desktop

In article <1992Sep30.223839.16593@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman) writes:
>From: hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman)
>Subject: Can't delete folder!
>Keywords: delete, folder, desktop
>Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:38:39 GMT
>Well, I've hit my first folder that won't delete!  I can't drop it on the
>shredder OR onto a floppy.  I've run chkdsk /f:3 and nothing has changed.
>What do I do now????
>
>Also, on an HPFS system, how do you go to the desktop directory?? When I do
>a 'dir' on the root, I see "OS!2 2.0 Desktop".  But, I can't 'cd' to this
>name, nor do a 'dir' on it to see its contents.  Under the old FAT system I
>was on before, I had no problems like this.  All help is appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Les
>
>
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>Jet Propulsion Laboratory   M/S 238-528    (818) 354-5964
>4800 Oak Grove Dr., Pasadena,  CA.  91109

To cd to a directory name that contains spaces, you have to quote it - i.e. 
cd "OS!2 2.0 Desktop"
The same goes for dir or any other command. I have to warn you, though, that 
there isn't going to be much of interest in your desktop directory. What
you'll see is all the subdirectories for the folders on your desktop and 
possible some extended attribute files.

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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Exactly how does one save'OS!2 2.0 Desktop'?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:23:20 GMT


Hi there.  I am about to take the plung into trying out the 
32bit graphics engine and Win3.1 support.  I got it yesterday.

backed up the information I need, and am about to 
reformat, etc. to install the beta code.      

Some people here have said they could backup their "OS!2 2.0 Desktop"
directory, put it back in after the beta install, and get their
old desktop back!  I've tried this, but for the life of
me I cannot figure out how.

I've tried copying it in the Drives folder, manaully, etc.

How do you do it???

Thanks-

-Dan
.



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*
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From: stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: How to use ATM rather than Truetype with WINOS231?
Date: 29 Sep 1992 18:12:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

I like WINOS231 a lot, and would like to use it instead of WINOS. However, I
don't seem to be able to get ATM to work. I disabled Truetypre in the
Control Panel, then changed the SYSTEM.INI file to make ATM the display driver,
and copied all the ATM files to \WINOS231. I then installed W4W (though only
by entering the path, not a full install - maybe that's the problem).
I only seem to get one font on the screen, which I can't change.

What do I need to do?

Richard Stanton
From: archer@vnet.ibm.com (Gary D. Archer)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 17:13:52 PDT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Graphics Ultra Problems!
Organization: IBM Corporation
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
X-X-From: archer@vnet.ibm.com (Gary Archer)

In <1992Sep29.111229.4404@desire.wright.edu> slam@desire.wright.edu writes:
>Well, I finally gave in and bought a MAG 15 and ATI Graphics Ultra combo
>to run OS/2 2.0. I then reinstalled OS/2 2.0 GA, selecting 8514/a and
>High Resoultion Full-Screen Win-OS/2. INSTALL goes through all 15 disks
>and the printer drivers but upon reboot, OS/2 hangs on the WPS screen
>with the gray background; there are no icons or anything else.
>
>I gave up on GA and installed the 32-bit GRE and had the same problem.
>Arrrggghh!!! The strange thing was that everything worked using SVGA and
>a cheapo Trident 8900C/1Mb card!
>
>What is going on? Help! Pleaazzzzzzeeee......
Reply-To: archer@vnet.ibm.com


Did you run ATI's install program to correctly set the mode for the
ATI ULTRA at 1024x768?  Boot a dos disk and re-run the ATI install
and checkout the 1024x768 settings.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kbass@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Bass)
Subject: How do I install beta from B:?
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:40:50 GMT

I should be getting the beta soon, but have seen here it requires 3 1/2
disk as drive A:. I do not have that. So I'd like to know, will it work,
just by swapping the cables on the two drivers and changing the setup?

    ---Ken

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From: deryd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Dery David)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Os2 on C.D. ?
Date: 3 Oct 92 11:28:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Universite de Montreal


	I remenber reading something about a particular installation when you
have the C.D. version. How does the C.D. version works? This is the read only
version, right? So any configuration has to be save on the HD. But a C.D. can
hold 600 Megs and Os2 is 30 Meg so those it come with somethibg else ?


	Has anyone out there tried the C.D. installation? comments ?

BTW, if anyone from IBM is reading this, is something like a upgrade (os2 3.1)
on C.D. possible if you bought it on disk ?


Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tom@piassun1.joanneum.ac.at (Tom Leitner)
Subject: New Trident 800x600x256 seamless drivers released ??
Originator: tom@piassun1
Organization: Joanneum Research, Graz, Austria
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 07:38:52 GMT


Hi everyone,

I have heard that Trident has released a new set of their OS/2 2.0 drivers
for their 8900C,9000 card series. Especially a 800x600x256 seamless driver
is said to be released lately. Can anyone confirm this ? Being in Europe
I just can't  affort to check the Trident BBS myself. Could someone check
that on the Trident BBS and (if positive) possibly upload the drivers
to ftp-os2.nmsu.edu?

I'd appreciate that very much. Thanks in advance and regards from Austria.

Tom Leitner, Joanneum Research, Internet: tom@piassun1.joanneum.ac.at
                                Fido:     2:316/7.91

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Wildcards do not work with GNU utils
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:34:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.113517.148217@ipgaix.unipg.it>, luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli) writes:
> When I try to use any GNU utility putting an * as filename, it says
> "'*' not found". The 4os2 shell that I use seems not to be able to
> expand the wildcard characters before invoking the program. 

Some GNU utilities do their own globbing (less, cat). MSDOS expects programs
to do the globbing, and 4os2 follows that convention. You might use
a program which globs, then feed to your executable (possibly be creating
a cmd file). There are globbers in with less177 and with the GNUinfo stuff,
if I recall properly (I know I've seen others).

There is ms_sh...

> Is anybody trying to port bash?

ms_sh (sh164 on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in pub/os2/all/gnu/ or ms_sh200 on
simtel20.army.mil) does globbing. 

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu.
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 CSD e-mail disribution
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:49:57 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>In <1992Sep29.111632@axion.bt.co.uk> djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson) writes:
>>I can't agree  - this method allows those who haven't already
>>paid for OS/2
>>to obtain it free of charge.  (Don't forget the service pack
>>is the complete
>>system, not just bug fixes). I'm sure IBM wouldn't want to
>>encourage
>>software piracy in this way.

>It is?  I was aware that the recent Beta for Win-31/32-bit graphics
>was a full system, but is the actual CSD going to be distributed that
>way as well?

From reports on CIS, the Service Pack will be about 14 disks; 2 for
installing, 3 for display drivers, and I guess that leaves 9 more. It
is unclear whether this represents a "full" system; but I doubt it.
I expect they would prefer to send out something that installs over,
and hence requires, GA. So posting electronically would be OK.

Tom
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: List of DOS applications that work on OS2
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 19:43:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.225909.13045@muddcs.claremont.edu> jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) writes:
>xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:
>>In <PICASSO.92Oct1150146@bass.bu.edu> picasso@bass.bu.edu (David Ondzes) writes:
>
>>Seems to me like it would make a *whole* lot more sense to have a list
>>of DOS apps that *don't* run under OS/2.  It'll be a *much* shorter list
>
>A list of DOS apps that don't work doesn't really help you that
>much.  The best it can do is tell you that the software you want
>to get doesn't work.  If the app you're interested in isn't on
>that list, there's no way for you to know if it actually does
>work, or if it just hasn't been tested yet.  The only way this
>list is going to be useful is if it is of DOS apps that DO work
>under OS/2.

Actually, both lists would be useful --  how else do you know if a product 
might work but hasn't been tested yet?

But if you can only have one list, then the information content of  the 
"doesn't work" list would be higher [since in general it is more surprising
to find a product in the "doesn't work" category than in the "does work"
category.]

orville

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Don Smith)
Subject: Re: So what's the word on 32-bit ET4000 drivers?
Originator: djs6015@ultb
Keywords: ET4000 32-bit beta
Organization: R.I.T.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:13:02 GMT

In article <kaz.717363034@vincent1.iastate.edu> kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet) writes:
}So, what's the general concensus on the release date for the ET4000 32-bit
}seamless drivers?  I can't get ANY of the drivers to sync correctly with
}my 32-bit Beta right now, so what's the date of the CSD?  Someone said
}a week, can I really hope for this?  Thanks!
}

I just received a letter from Diamond today..... from what they say,
they don't see new drivers any time soon.

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Re: Speedstar OS/2 drivers
Diamond Computer Systems, Inc.
Graphics Division

532 Mercury Drive
Sunnyvale. CA 94086

Date: 9/22/92


Reply: Dear Mr. Smith

     In reply to your recent letter, we do
not have any OS/2 drivers at the present time.
We apologize for any inconvenience that this
has caused you; we do get requests for the
OS/2 drivers and we are presently looking into
driver development.
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I think that we should all write and pester these companies, If
they spent as much time with OS/2 as they do with windows,
we would have had SVGA seemless windows drivers months ago.
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From: lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (m.l. gore)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: VSVGA.SYS nonsense
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:33:51 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>Before I try this voodoo, will it work?  In other words, can you
>consistently switch back and forth to full screen sessions without
>the screen being garbled?
>
>Chris
>
    It depends...I had many problems with the GA. I now have the Beta running,
and the only problems I have witht he 640-480, 256 driver is:

    Settings pulldowns are distorted, still work

    Switching back and forth from and OS/2 full screen session causes the
    desktop to be distorted, initially. If you force a redraw, be it from
    opening windows, or closing an application, like DOS full screen, the
    desktop is re-drawn.

    Lockup causes a system freeze. OS/2 thinks that 4 incorrect password
    attempts were entered, and locks the system.


    Does anyone agree with these bugs with the Tridents + the Beta??

                                                bvl
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From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: cd rom suggestions
Date: 27 Sep 1992 18:42:25 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: comp
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Sep27.1047.25410@channel1>, by richard.hajinlian@channel1.com (richard hajinlian):
> Anyone have any suggestion as far as wich cd rom to buy for machine?  I
> have an Adaptec scsi 1542b.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Get either an Toshiba or an IBM CD-ROM drive if you want to use them under
OS/2 (both will also work under DOS with appropriate drivers...Corel's
SCSI drivers work very nicely).  We have several different models of 
Toshiba CD-ROMs here and have had no problems using them with OS/2.
From: skelly@coral.bucknell.edu (Kelly Sean David)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Security
Date: 1 Oct 1992 10:23:37 -0400
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: coral.bucknell.edu

In article <JFXwRB1w164w@uuisis.isis.org> evanc@uuisis.isis.org (Evan Champion) writes:
>Is there something to make it so that without a password (or login/password) 
>you can't do anything on a machine?  I know that you can do it with Lan 
>Server if you set local security on, but I don't want to use Lan Server.  
>Any ideas?

I know that there are some cards out there that produce a password screen
upon bootup, it's not a very glamourous solution but I think it's probably
one of the most secure methods available (I've never used one so I don't really
know).  There might be a way to trigger lockup upon bootup, I'll have to play
around with that idea.  Also, I know that there are several screen savers for
windows that have this feature so there might be one out there for OS/2 (or
you could probably throw one together yourself if you have the time/exp).  If
all else fails you could always wait for NT (I heard you have to press CTL+ALT+
DEL upon startup to make sure it's the REAL login line-- NT traps this by
default).

-Sean Kelly
From: anlst2+@pitt.edu (Arthur N Lilley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: After Dark Trouble
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:57:04 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


     I'm having some trouble trying to run After Dark.  The screen saver pops
up every X minutes even if I have been doing stuff(mouse, keyboard, etc.).
I assume that the solution lies somewhere in the WIN-OS2 settings, but I
can't figure out the right combination.  Like I said, I don't think that
Windows is getting the signal that I have hit a key or clicked a mouse.
Once Afterdark pops up and is in the foreground, as soon as I hit a key it
will disappear like it should.  Any ideas?

                                                         - Art
From: stoen@katana.pcpd.hou.compaq.com (Rick Stoen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Screen Saver
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:48:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: twisto.1992Sep30.174829.6584
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation

In article <1992Sep29.205048.3586@digi.lonestar.org>, emartine@digi.lonestar.org (Edgar Martinez Martinez) writes:

|>  Doesn't Lockup waste CPU operation? I remember it moving a little lock around
|> the screen. Is scrutl plain enough that it just blanks the screen without any
|> fancy cartoons or CPU usage?
|> 
I don't think you are "wasting" any CPU cycles. A screen saver should
set itself to the lowest priority and thus only get CPU cycles when
there are no other processes ready to run. If you weren't running a
screen saver the idle process would be using all those CPU cycles
doing nothing.

Actually if you are running something like pulse it will use up all
those cpu cycles. Remember that if pulse shows your system utilization
at 10%, pulse itself is using the 90% of your CPU.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jdarnold@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Jonathan Arnold)
Subject: Re: OS/2 TCP/IP ethernet question
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 12:18:11 GMT

In article <oelmb3y00VojE1Y0JR@andrew.cmu.edu> kl2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kwan-Yong Lee) writes:
>Hi.  
>of ethernet card or token ring card I have.   However, I don't know
>which ethernet card is compatible to mine (It's not compatible to
>Western Digital, I know that.)  Has anybody bought and tried ET-200 from
>Fast Data? I am fairly new in OS/2 and even more clueless for network
>stuff.

It's probably NE-2000 compatible, so try it with those settings.
Also, you may just want to continue this question in the
comp.os.os2.networking conference.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mjn@sbmiclr.cs.sunysb.edu (The Sixth Replicant)
Subject: Tape Drives
Organization: Tyrell Corp.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:51:05 GMT


I've decided to add a tape drive to my system and I'd like input from OS/2
users as to what tape drives/controllers work with OS/2 and which work
well. I'd like a 250MB drive and am mostly interested in the inexpensive
drives like the Colorado Jumbo 250. Any comments ?

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From: graham@cs.utexas.edu (Ralph Arnold Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Compatibility testing: What would you do?
Date: 6 Oct 1992 18:37:20 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelady.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Oct6.214641.14799@ichips.intel.com> jburns@pdxgp1 (John Justin Burns Jr.) writes:
>I am in charge of developing tests that test the compatibility of some
>of our products with OS/2 and its applications.  My question is simple,
>but the answer may not be: What applications do we test?  For instance,
>we already test Describe.  What else should be done?
> [...]
>Assume the  products are hardware that 
>normally fit somewhere on the motherboard.
> [...]
>Thanks,
>
>John Burns

I would like to see the SatisFAXtion line tested - specifically the
SatisFAXtion 400 (internal).  One obvious advantage to multitasking
is background modem and fax operations.  The 400 sounds like a great
product with its high speed capabilities and buffering of informati
loaded in the config.sys as well as problems with the fax program
working reliably under OS/2.  I know of several people (including
myself) who are considering the purchase of this product, but are
a bit leery until there is more testing/development work done...

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