HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Riding Two on a CBR600F2
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:56:07 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

>In article <msbogd-270892145137@enterprise.lerc.nasa.gov> msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael S. Bogdanski) writes:
>>and my passenger about 110lb.  Has anyone figured out a method for
>>minimizing/eliminating these uncomfortable and painful encounters while
>>carrying a passenger?
>

Use your passenger's hands as a buffer zone!!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Oil & speed
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:19:54 GMT

mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon) writes:

>When I changed the old oil on my bike to Golden Spectro, it seemed to
>accelerate and rev faster.

>When I changed it to cager oil three days ago (Castrol GTX), it
>seemed to slow down again.

Next time have a friend do the oil change for you, without telling you
which oil he used. If you can still feel a difference without knowing
which oil is in there, then there might really be a difference.

When I switched to Mobil-1 synthetic on my FJ1200 I didn't gain a
hundred horsepower or 50 mpg. The first-shift-of-the-morning lunge was
reduced some, but that was the only difference in performance I could
feel.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Dry Sump Lubrication
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:36:23 GMT

davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.002439.18750@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>>>  It allows the volume of the crankcase to be reduced, which improves
>>>performance on single and twin cylinder engines, especially when
>>>combined with a timed or reed-valve breather.

>>Reed valve? Surely you're not talking about 2-strokes and wet/dry sumps
>>in the same breath?

>    AND THE ANSWER IS:  YOU PUT A REED VALVE OVER THE BREATHER, WHICH IS
>EXACTLY WHAT BMW DOES.

Ok, I'm with you now.

>    Timed breathers put a little rotating disk with a hole in it over
>the air outlet to accomplish the same thing.  Many Brit bikes have
>this.

This is what really threw me, I was thinking of reed and rotary 2-stroke
intake valves.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: What's a "stroker"
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:00:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.152116.25826@informix.com> dboyd@informix.com writes:
>OK, no funny business here, I really want to know. I have this t-shirt 
>on today that says "Have you hugged your stroker today?" (from S&S cycles)
>and people are asking me what a stroker is and I'm not quite sure.
>Any bike with performance parts?
>A harley that's been bored out?
>I've heard the expression stroked-out, but it doesn't help me understand.

I'll give this one a shot, and if I'm wrong, I'm sure we'll all see my error
by the light of the flames.

Have you ever heard of an engine that had been "bored and stroked"?
When an engine is "bored", they increase the diameter of the cylinder, and
increase the diameter of the piston and rings for an appropriate fit,
thereby increasing the engine's displacement.  When an engine is "stroked",
they literally increase the length of travel of the piston.  That is, the
piston of a stroked engine usually reaches higher when the piston is at 
the top of its stroke, and reaches lower towards the crankshaft when the
piston is at the bottom of its stroke.  How do they achieve this?  I think
they usually modify the placement of the piston-rod pin on the crankshaft.
As this pin is moved further away from the crankshaft's axis of rotation, 
if you hold the length of the piston rod at a constant value, the stroke
length increases.  If the pin were placed exactly on the crankshaft's axis
of rotation, the piston wouldn't move at all.  The stroke of an engine also
figures prominently in the determination of its displacement; the larger the
stroke, the larger the displacement.

I hope this is an adequate explanation, Diana.  If not, I'm sure we'll
all hear about it.  :-)

Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
       Contrary to popular belief, I am not the Devil's advocate...
                  ...but I am his speech writer.
From: conrad@pico.OZ (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: slappers
Date: 2 Sep 92 02:48:41 GMT
Reply-To: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Organization: QPSX Communications
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
: In <15260@suns1.crosfield.co.uk> gxw@crosfield.co.uk (garry wilmot) writes:
: >Can someone please clarify what causes tank slappers and how
: >to ride them out.
: 
:   
:   I didn't tink modern bikes did tank slappers anymore. Shure I've
: experienced front end wiggles but they've always worked themselves out
: without any special input.
: 
Get yourself a RGV/KR1S/NSR/TZR & go for a fang on some
less-than-virginal roads.  

While I haven't had the tank _dented_ I've been headed for the
undergrowth too many times.

Conrad
Email: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Snail: QPSX Communications, Private Bag 24, West Perth 6005, Australia. 
Numbers:(ph) +61 9 324 1641, (fx) +61 9 321 2984 (dod) 0604

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: akins@cis.ohio-state.edu (Greg Akins)
Subject: Insurance Companies
Originator: akins@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:23:15 GMT

If anyone knows of insurance companies that are 
sympathetic to motorcycles I would appreciate the information.

Please E-mail me.

Greg Akins				Roamer, wanderer
akins@cis.ohio-state.edu		Nomad, vagabond
					Call me what you will.
					-Metallica
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harleys and Pin Stripes
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:25:04 GMT
Expires: 25 Sep 92 05:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Organization: Computervision Corp., Beford, Ma., USA

|In article <1992Aug25.105848.15129@cs.hw.ac.uk> censwm@cend2c10.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Stuart W Munn) writes:
|>Hey guess what I saw on the dual-carriageway in Edinburgh yesterday?
|>
|>Yeah, some eejit on a Harley Electra Glide (well some sort of Harley with lots of plastic panniers, chrome etc, sorry I am not very clued up about these odd looking American bike!) It looked brand new, but he looked well past his sell by date! He was wearing:
|>
|>	A pin striped blue suit
|>	A striped shirt
|>	A tie
|>	Black loafers
|>	A CHIPS style helmet.
|>
|>What an asshole, if this is the sort of idiot that rides a Harley, then I don't want one!!
|>
|>Perhaps Harley should be more careful about who they sell their bikes to?

Hey Tod - You didn't tell me that we had any accounts in Scotland....


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
[  This Space For Rent       ]              (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Date: 4 Sep 1992 13:33:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 1532@seqp4.sequoia.com, cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:
>
>Although reserve switches are very simple, they have several problems
>that accurate fuel gauges do a better job of addressing, IMHO:

And a flat roof won't hold water.  Problem is, you can't get one.
Motorcycle fuel gauges are notoriously inaccurate.

>1)	If you forget to switch back to "ON" at the gas station, you
>	may run the tank dry.

You don't know what "feeling stupid" means until you do this, in the
middle of nowhere!

>2)	No good feedback on a particular trip about how fast gas is
>	being consumed. 

The gauge is almost certainly not going to be linear.  A lot of
experience with YOUR particular gauge can compensate, of course.

>3)	Having to switch from "ON" to "reserve" requires taking a
>	hand off the handlebar while riding, 

Which is why it should be part of your monthly parking lot practice.

>4)	If the reserve amount is not enough to make it to a gas station,

I rode in the city, no problem.  When you take a jaunt in the country,
top off often.  Naturally, if you do all your riding in rural areas,
this is a problem.

>A minimal motorcycle certainly doesn't require a fuel gauge, and a reserve
>switch is a simple, inexpensive option, but for a nice road bike, why don't
>they all just have accurate fuel gauges? 

Too expensive, so they put on horribly inaccurate fuel gauges.  I like
the gauge, too, but even with it, I've gone to reserve.  It's REAL nice
to have it there!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: Road tip #2 (Toolkit flashlight)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:29:26 GMT

>
>Another tip about carrying a flashlight, take one battery out and turn 
>it around.  My minimaglite kept getting turned on (insert smart ass 
>comments here ;-) but by turning around the outermost battery, you know 
>you'll have a flashlight that works.
>

or, if you forget you turned the battery around, you'll think you
have a flashlight that doesn't work.


Jack Waters II

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Make no Mistake, I am the Red Fishnet.         ~
~                                DoD#1919        ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: dgibb@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Don Gibb)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RED '87 Honda Magna for sale
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:35:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.CMM.0.90.2.715631746.dgibb
Organization: The Ohio State University


1987 Honda Magna  -  Red     model: VF700C
 
New:  tires, battery, brakes and more
 
Accessories:  windscreen, engine guard, highway pegs, backrest and luggage rack

tires - front:  Metzler ME33 Laser
        rear:   Metzler ML2             total mileage on both tires:  4k
   
Very clean and well maintained.  40k easy cruised and highway miles.
 
Lots of looks with this one!     Only $2750.00
 
Replies to this email address or call:  Don Gibb  (614) 292-4843 (w)
                                                  (614) 475-6214 (h)
From: cgreen@sersun1.essex.ac.uk (Green ISBD C)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Concours mirror problem?
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:50:04 GMT

From article <BtM9sI.M6F@Caere.COM>, by mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones):
> My 1987 Concours has a chronic problem with the mirrors blowing back
> and becoming useless.  In the past, I've managed to disassemble the
> mirrors and tighten the lock nuts, but I don't want to again.
> 
> Another Concours owner told a rumor of Kawasaki recalling the mirrors
> from early Concourses.  My local shop couldn't find anything documented
> in their tech bulletins.
> 
I had an A1 Concours and now have an A4, the mirrors are different.  The
older one had two ordinary joints the new one has a single ball and
socket.  The newer one is definitely less prone to being deflected by
the wind pressure.  Maybe you could just get a pair of the latest
mirrors, I think the mounting on the fairing is the same.  They are
rather expensive though, at least here in the UK.  I would be interested
in hearing how much they are over there.

Chris Green
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:44:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug31.164412.24579
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <LOTTO.92Aug28154658@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>>>>>> On 18 Aug 92 09:31:41 GMT, etlanar@slartibartfast.ericsson.se (Alan Arthur) said:
>Alan> I'm right handed, so is this some kind of 'built-in' protection
>Alan> mechanism that I need to overcome?
>
>Most people have more trouble turning right than left - regardless of
>their "handedness".  In a right turn, you control the throttle and
>modulate handlebar pressure with the same hand.  Countersteering is a
>lot more natural in a left-lean posture.  This is especially true if

Is it just me, or does anyone else both push and pull?  Not that
I claim to be immune to this effect, but I never really noticed
it much.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: new bike .vs. vasectomy
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:34:51 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

aki@atlas.worldbank.org (aki) writes:
]      Female: "Any woman stupid enough to give a man a large sum of 
]               money and set him out on his own, deserves what she gets.."

it's an old saying, the difference between the men and the boys is the
price of their toys...

]There were alot more calls..almost all of them favored what the guy did.  
]They thought the woman was a totally cold uptight bitch (TM) for expecting
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
see, like I said before...

]this guy to go out on his own and get his wanker cut while she stayed at
]home and watched soap operas...I tend to agree...

noone wondered why she didn't get her tubes shut down if she was so intent
on sterilizing someone? while admitting ignorance in abundance, isn't it a
simple matter to do a non-permanent "clamp" of the female's tubes? I don't
think the same is true for males, but I certainly can't say I've been checking
into it.

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dhawk@well.sf.ca.us (David Hawkins)
Subject: Might Cloud o' Smoke
Keywords: smoking engine
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:49:22 GMT

The history so far: '77 Goldwing sat for 7 years.  I put it in the
shop and they got it running.  I don't have a plate for it yet, so no
on-road riding (until I get the compliance ticket cleared up.)  I
start it up once a week and let it idle for a while.  But tonight it
was really laying out a cloud of smoke.  What does that mean?  I've
got it on the center stand so oil won't pool to one side.

Any guesses what I could sell this thing for?  ;-)  Just had $1000
worth of work done to it.

later, david
--
David Hawkins  -- dhawk@netcom.com   DoD #1113
"Expect the Unexpected.  He does."  [Buckaroo Banzai novel quote]
From: gaijin@ale.Japan.Sun.COM (John Little - Nihon Sun Repair Depot)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: test
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:43:09 GMT
Organization: Nihon Sun Microsystems - Atsugi Technical Centre - JAPAN.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ale.japan.sun.com

In article <txd.715303783@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM \
(Tom Dietrich) writes:
%  
%  Absolutely! Motorcycling is extriemely dangerous...
%
%  ...pedestrians walking on narrow bridges should be required to wear those
%  half helmets. It's for their own good.
%  

   This is just plain silly.   I'd like to get  this thread back on  track
   with a sensible suggestion for winter wear.

   Everyone knows  that your  fingers need  protection from  the  elements
   during those cold winter months, so I'd like to share this healthy  tip
   with the world at large.

   Condoms.  C'mon, don't be  shy, say it out loud  - "Condoms".  This  is
   where the furure of cold weather  motorcycling lies!  Just snap one  of
   these puppies onto each digit and  you're set.  Safe motorcycling,  dry
   motorcycling, featherlight pre-lubed  motorcycling.   Forget about  not
   being able to  "feel" the brake  or clutch  - these babies  are like  a
   second skin!  Forget  about the rain getting  in (or the sweat  getting
   out), they're eelektronickly tested for soundness.

   Just imagine it...  no more  of that bad-biker dude image of  strolling
   into a bar and peeling  of layers of black  leather.  With condoms  you
   get to stroll into the bar and peel off layers of ribbed rubber (didn't
   I mention the -texture- yet??).

   Look at the advantages, the handy little dangling sacks, just right for
   carrying emergency supplies of chain  lube.  The ready availability  of
   water bombs for those nasty tail-gaters.  Stretch one over that  broken
   indicator lamp  as a  temporary  lens.   Pull  one over  your  friend's
   exhaust pipe and  watch the fun...   hours of  enjoyment for the  whole
   family!

   Oh, one thing though...  you'd better wash you're hands as soon as  you
   get home.  If you're  S.O.  catches a  whiff of that distinctive  smell
   (didn't I mention the -smell- yet??) you're in deep shit!

-- 
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  | John Little  - gaijin@Japan.Sun.COM  - Sun Microsystems. Atsugi, Japan | 
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From: mf@dancer.uucp (24241-fusco)
Subject: FOR SALE: 1990 BMW K75S
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 01:52:20 GMT
Keywords: BMW, k75s, red, 1990

	FOR SALE
	^^^^^^^^
	-1990 BMW K75S motorcycle
	-10K miles
	-red
	-Corbin seat
	-mint, very sharp
	-recent BMW Inspection II (oils changed, valves adjusted, etc.)
	-3_year warranty still in effect until March, 1993

	-asking $5,900

.....................................................................
    Marc Fusco					Middletown, NJ
    mf@dancer.cc.bellcore.com
    908-699-4924 work			 908-615-0388 home
.....................................................................
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: What to put on chrome pipes?? 
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 16:49:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.060753.19494@icf.hrb.com> mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:
>Can somebody recommend something to put on chrome pipes to keep them from
>rusting while my bike is stored for the winter.  -- 
>

Lemon Pledge??

Ride smelling lemon fresh!

Bill
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From: mdc2@pyuxe.uucp (25493-corrado)
Subject: Re: New Toy!!!
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 20:14:29 GMT
Summary: sorry, wasn't sure which sentence fragment was more meaningful

In article <Btwsxv.7F6@newcastle.ac.uk>, R.Collins@newcastle.ac.uk (R. Collins) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep1.144232.6659@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, mdc2@pyuxe.uucp (25493-corrado) writes:
> >In article <LOTTO.92Sep1073544@laura.harvard.edu>, lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
> >> >>>>> On 31 Aug 92 13:47:20 GMT, mdc2@pyuxe.uucp (25493-corrado) said:
> >> Mitch> I shoulda' stayed with my '81 GpZ550.  My 500 likes to move out, but is
> >> Mitch> not to keen on stopping; I do wish it had a stronger rear-brake.
> >> 
> >> At the risk of rekindling some (thankfully) cold ashes...
> >> 
> >> Why?
> >
> >First off, I love the EX500.  But the GpZ holds a special place in my heart;
> >the...............
> 
> Errr, I think you've missed the point of the "Why?",  but maybe its better
> left that way.

Sorry, guess I goofed...don't tell my employer; they think I know what I'm
doing.  As for the rear brake question...just personal preference, I guess.
Regardless of questions on which brake(s) to use and when, IMHO the rear
brake on the EX500 is either too soft, or its "angles" are inconvenient.
I think it's more a matter of riding position though, because it will apply
"sufficient" braking when depressed past 60 degrees from the horizontal (even
when the stop bolt is adjusted and free-play is minimal).  It's just that for
me, never having danced on point, the angle is too steep to be comfortable.
I imagine if I were crouched over the gas tank, the inconvenience would be
reduced, but the handlebars and footpegs sorta' make a crouch uncomfortable.

If I missed the point again, oh well, I was always better with area type
weapons anyway.

               '\                          Mitch Corrado
                _\______           Bell Communications Research
               /   DEC  \======== mdc2@panther.tnds.bellcore.com
          ____|___WRECK__\_____            (908)699-4128
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From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Newbie in need of help
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:44:31 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

The click click is definitely the sign your battery has gone 
to that great land of dead batteries in the sky... the solenoid
just clicks and the starter don't spin. "It's dead, jim."

You probably have gunk in your carbs, clogged filters, valves, timing,
carbs, plugs in need of adjustment/replacement. Shop time. 

Sounds like both of you guys should perhaps consider getting your
bikes serviced properly and then get some instruction from a manual 
on how to store them for the winter...

> P.S. - What is DoD?
Read the FAQ.
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
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