From: paladin@planet10.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike Being...)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: POLITICLA ANIMAL
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:02:46 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1jlklkINNlrm@cbl.umd.edu> wolffrnd@starburst.umd.edu (The Wolf Friend) writes:
>paladin@rajeesh.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike Being...) writes...
>>
>>In article <9145@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> hagop@edison.seas.ucla.edu (Hagop D. 
>>Janoyan) writes:
>>>>In article <1j55f6INNpit@bigboote.WPI.EDU> paladin@pitt.WPI.EDU (Ever 
>>>>Shifting Bearlike Being...) writes:
>>>>>things that man has.. the urge for sex..for most males this seems to be a 
>>>>>very overpowering urge...
>>>Sex is an overpowering urge for some people
>>>many people wait till marriage before "sex."  
>"powerful" and "overpowering" are not the same thing.  More on that in a

as for the overpowering?? have you ever been in a conversation with a (lets
call it a Typical College Male or TCM) TCM.. i have lived with a few.. and 
been trapped on buses with others(having been a member of the football team)
invariably the conversations turn to sex.. and most of what they seem to 
talk/think about is sex.. the getting of, reminiscing about, and the acts 
itself... it seems to be all they can think of... 

sex was just an arbitrary choice of a baser instinct.. i could have chosen 
other things...

>say is that I personally don't believe that the average person has no control
>whatsoever over such instincts as sex or eating, but at the same time I
>believe many people's control is rather tenuous and easily broken.  That is
>why I prefer the term powerful rather than overpowering; a mere semantic
>distinction perhaps, but more descriptive in my mind.

okay.. words are to me fairly meaningles... one is just as good as another...
but as to your statement about the control being tenuous... well that was what
i was attempting to get across... and failed miserably to do...

>>how bout commenting on the emotion bit?
>>the storng emotions like i said seem to basically get rid of rational thought

>I read your original comments but that post has now expired, so I'll have to
>do this reply from memory.  I agree that strong emotions can sometimes affect
>or even temporarily eradicate rational thought.  I know this all too well from
>personal experience; and I've observed such a response in others as well. Even

i know it also from personal experience.. which is why i mentioned it... 
usually when i realize that such a thing has occured (as in loss of "control")
i can usually take measures to gain back my "control"... 

>a court of law differentiates between a crime of passion vs. premeditated
>crimes.  The feeling is so strong that the person seems to operate on instinct
>alone at that moment.  However, I don't believe that the strength of the
>emotion alone governs one's thoughts or reactions. Some people can experience
>extremely powerful emotions yet remain in control; while others may fall apart
>at something quite minor by comparison. For myself, I find that my perception

a good example of this is my absolute terror of hieghts... i decided it was 
silly to be scared of heights... so i went rock-climbing/rapelling... i still
experience the fear reaction... but it is controlled...

[really good dialogue deleted..]

>Of course there is a point beyond which a person cannot handle the emotion no
>matter what, when it becomes so powerful that nothing else matters even when
>the situation is fully understood.  And most people don't seem to possess a
>very strong degree of control or a very good understanding of their inner
>feelings in the first place, so it's easy for things to get out of hand. 

well said... 8)

>The "higher" organisms are such darned complex critters.... *sigh*

heh.. ayup... 

 Paladin (ever shifting bearlike being....)	     
     Reality	       | " Wouldn't you laugh if your head exploded???  
 		       |	 No.... I guess you wouldn't.....	 
 paladin@wpi.wpi.edu   |   I would."   (Nosage, June 91)

human is the foulest name i can ever call a person......

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