From: rcfg@chem.ucsd.edu (Fahey group)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083
Date: 3 Oct 1992 20:06:59 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
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In article <1992Oct2.230352.2145@vicstoy.UUCP> fleggett@vicstoy.UUCP (Fred Leggett) writes:
>In article <1af7nmINN1em@network.ucsd.edu> rcfg@chem.ucsd.edu (Fahey group) writes:
>     Well, actually, I asked that question in all seriousness.  Jions
>are constantly symbolized as space-faring Nazis.  And their motivations
>for achieving some sort of spacenoid independence seems to be all but
>made clear.  In fact, they could be construed as antagonist agressors...

Although military otakus among staff (0080 in particular) put lots
of German military flavor in making up Jions, Jions are NOT
Nazis. Giren Zabi was a Hitler-like figure in his methods and ideals
but he doesn't represent the entire Jion and he's possibly the
worst case of Jion (well, he killed even his father). 

Books on Gundam describe Jion soldiers as noble warriors. Even when
their lives were miserable during the guerilla warfare on Earth, they
didn't turn into the bands of robbers. However, the Federation soldier
were less noble and they didn't hesitate to take food and other goods
from helpless civilians (this is from EB39).

>     I'm just looking for reasons as to exactly why spacenoids possess
>this urge to release themselves from Earth connections.  What did the
>Earthnoid government do to these people that was so terrible?  And why
>are almost all Gundam stories told from the perspective of Federation
>and/or AEUG forces?

The relationship between colonies and the Federation government is like
that of the empires in 19-20th century and their colonies. Those
who remain on Earth consider spacenoids to be second class citizens and 
colonies exist to serve the Earth's needs. Already most of people living
on Earth are those belong to the privileged classes since all others
were FORCED to immigrate to the space. And those privileged ones refuse
to immigrate to the space while the Earth is dying due to the pollution.

Considering these factors, it's natural that the spacenoids wants to
liberate themselves from the Federation. Coming from a country that has
suffered from savage colonial rule, I can understand the feelings of 
spacenoids.

0083 and Lightning Hathaway are not told from the perspective of the 
Federation. The Feds are the bad guys (I'm NOT talking about pawns
like Kou or crews of Albion, but the Federation government) in these
Gundam.

BTW, AEUG stands for Anti-Earth United Government (Anti-Federation)
and the Feds are the bad guys here. And Jamitov Hyman (The leader of
Titans) is the Feddie version of Giren Zabi.


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