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From: shi@UCUNIX.SAN.UC.EDU (Wen-Bin Shi)
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Subject: DOS operation and data format
Date: 27 Dec 92 07:12:12 GMT
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        Dear netter;

        I have the following two questions not specifically related with
        GIS.

        (1) Disks formatted on different machines with different
        DOS versions can not be used interchangeably. Does anybody know
        why and the solution for the problem? According the MS-DOS 5
        reference book, "to use a diskette with all versions of MS-DOS,
        use /B and /1 switches which format the diskette for any MS-DOS
        version and format only one side." I tried it, it does not work.
        After I formatted a disk on an IBM ps/2 machine with DOS 4.00,
        I tried to use it on a DEC 325c machine with DOS 5.00, I got the
        following error message: "General failure reading drive a". Then
        I was trying to reformt the disk on the DEC machine, the machine
        does not allow me to do so, and keeps giving me the meaasage:
        "Invalid media or Track 0 bad - disk unusable. Format
        terminated." This may be a silly question, but I do need an answer.

        (2) Can anybody recommand me some books regarding data formats,
        particularly the ones we use frequently in GIS?

        Thanks in anticipation.






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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 10:35:00 GMT+0200
From:         KUFONIYI@ITC.NL
Subject:      Xmas greetings & holidays

Sorry netters, for this distraction: merry xmas; meanwhile......
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Subject:      Merry X-mas & H.N.Y. 1993 !!!

FRANK <hoffmann@urzdfn.kartographie.tu-dresden.dbp.de>
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From:         STGG8004@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE
Subject:      Christmas

I am sure it is a terrible waste of bandwidth and so, if you are one of the
people who objects, please delete this now and consider yourself exempt from
the following message.... :-)

I just wanted to wish all GIS-L readers, particularly old acquaintences, and
those colleagues that I had the pleasure of meeting in person for the first
time this year, a very good Christmas and a Happy New Year. (And for those
friends from non-Christian countries, who perhaps don't celebrate Christmas,
please bear with us!).

I am signing off GIS-L for the festive season and, all being well, will
be back to pollute your mailboxes again in January....

Darius Bartlett
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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:43:20 -0500
From:         gbenwell@COMMERCE.OTAGO.AC.NZ
Subject:      Re: New Zealand Maps?

To John,
i am away from the office until 11th Jan.  Drop me some Email after that I will
see what I can do

Happy New Year


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From: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Duane F Marble)
Subject: Global Ecosystems Data on CD-ROM
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:47:20 GMT

A recent mailing from our National Geophysical Data Center indicates
the availability of a CD-ROM containing global ecosystems data. To
quote:

     The CD-ROM includes selected data on the global environment,
     such as ecosystems, land use, wetlands, vegetation (including
     satellite-derived vegation index), climate, topography, and
     soils. These data are on a range of compatibile grids, from
     2 degrees to 2 minutes. Vector data for coastlines and other
     features are also provided. ... We plan to provide periodic
     updates and enhancements to the disk. ... The CD-ROM format
     ... is readable on IBM-DOS compaatible machines, Apple
     Macintoshes, UNIX workstations, and other computers that
     support the ISO 9660 standard. ... The data are completely
     within the public domain... We provide software to browse,
     visualize, and select appropriate portions of the database
     for your work. Primarily, however, the database is designed
     to interface with many statistical, image analysis, and
     geographic information systems. Data and sample setups are
     provided in two highly accessible geographic information
     systems, GRASS and IDRISI, to show how they can be used in
     other GISs. The structure of the database has demonstrated
     its adaptability by passing several tests by software
     vendors for quick and easy importation into their system.

The price for the CD-ROM incuding 300+ pages of documentation is
$100 (product number 1016-A27-001). Orders MUST be prepaid and
those from outside the U.S. must include an additional $10 handling
fee. They will take Amex, Visa, and MasterCard in a faxed order
showing expiration date, card number, telephone number, and your
signature.

Orders and further info:

National Geophysical Data Center      Fax: (303) 497-6513
NOAA, E/GC1, Dept. 891
325 Broadway
Boulder, CO 80303  U.S.A.

Internet: info@mail.ngdc.noaa.gov
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:50:33 PST
From:         Lance Shipman <esri!valhalla!lance@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Re: Convert files from PC ARC/INFO to SUN ARC/INFO or vice versa

The ARC/INFO export command.

Lance S.
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:18:36 -0500
From:         John N Brown <gistrans@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Convert files from PC ARC/INFO to SUN ARC/INFO or vice versa

I forgot to include the above (subject) article but a method was described
which involved generating and ungenerating and all such kinds of steps.

The way I do it is create aan export file (.e00) and carry it over to the
other machine. This does not work very well with addresses (format
difference) but works fine with everything else. This is the way to go, unless I
understtod the probelm wrongly!!
Srinivas
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:54:41 CST
From:         MFLTL@ECNUXA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: USA--biol. survey
              "PROMISLO@QUCDN.QUEENS

This sounds like an animal habitat study.  There are lots of them in the
literature.  See some back issues of GIS World, GIS Info Systems as well as
the proceeding of GIS conferences.  As to the type of data that are
available, I'll left someone else answer that.  It may be difficult to tell
because you do not indicate the scale of your work.

Regards

Larry Lewis                          BITNET:   mfltl@ecnuxa.bitnet
Geography Department                 INTERNET: mfltl@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Western Illinois University
Macomb, IL 61455
Tel (309) 298-1764
    (309) 298-1648
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:55:09 CST
From:         "Doug Behm, Univ of Al" <DBEHM@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Number 9 Video card

I am about to specify a #9 GXi level 21 video card. I know it will
run PC Microstation and Acad v.12 under a TIGA 2.0 driver but will
it run PC ARC/INFO, IDRISI and RADIAN CPS/PC ? I sure could use a
voice of experience.
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Subject: short cuts in INFO?
From: cvalj001@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:19:30 PST
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    Is there a shorter way to do INFO tables in ARC/INFO 5.0 on the Tektronix
than to type each feature into the .pat,.aat, or .dat tables?  For example, I'm
doing a polygons of interest coverage and I have to type the class of each into 
the INFO table individually.  Is there a way to assign the classes
automatically?   Also, if you define one of the columns wrong in the .dat table
is there a way to change the column definition without having to retype the
whole thing? 

Thanks in advance!!
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From:         "SCHLESINGER, PETER" <i43_ps02@RED.WHOI.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Boundaries of the Americas

I don't know how much money you have available, but these may be purchased
for $80/tape from USGS/EROS Data Center in Sioux Falls, SD. Call Customer
Service at 605-594-6511.

Peter Schlesinger
The Woods Hole Research Center
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From:         THE IDRISI PROJECT <IDRISI@CLARKU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Number 9 Video card

IDRISI would definitely be able to run on the #9 video card in VGA mode, but
I'm not sure about 8514 mode.  What kind of SuperVGA resolution does it
support?

Tammy Woodard
Idrisi Project
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From:         Wm Randolph Franklin <FRANKLIN@MATGEN.GE.CNR.IT>
Subject:      Complexity of updating a Voronoi diagram

On Dec 11, srobeson@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (scott robeson),
in an article on Re: Voronoi Tessalation GIS, said this:

   In some ill-conditioned distributions of control points,
   however, the Voronoi tesselation can change dramatically
   just by adding or removing a few points in strategic
   locations.

The question is, how often does that occur in practice?

If you're given all the points in advance, and process them
in random order, then the expected total time is excellent,
i.e., N*log(N) or N*log(N)^2 (I forget which).   The
expectation is over the random number generator in the
program; every time you run the program it will take a
slightly different time to produce the same output.  There
is no input data whose expected time is worse.

This is an example of a Las Vegas randomized algorithm in
computational geometry.  It is a dramatic concept only about
5 years old, which leads to algorithms both faster and
simpler.  (The tradeoff is that they can be very hard to
analyze.)

If the user is specfying the points, and they must be
processed "on-line" 1-by-1 as given, then the time can blow
up to quadratic.

I don't think that such a circumstance is worth worryinbg
about since I'd doubt it would occur in a real example.
However, even then, I could imagine a multi-level Voronoi
diagram that might handle that.   The idea would be to
insert troublesome new points into a temporary, smaller data
structure.  From time to time merge the data structures.
All queries must be done in the two data structures.

Now let the "two" be a variable depending on the number of
points.

The idea was described by Jon Bentley and Mary Shaw (I
think) as a general technique for dynamizing static data
structures in IEEE Trans. on Software Engin. at least 15
years ago.
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From: anne@cco.caltech.edu (Anneliese Lilje)
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Subject: Re: Can ARC/INFO data be used on a MAC ? ?
Date: 3 Jan 1993 00:26:54 GMT
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In article <C030oE.CID@ra.nrl.navy.mil> jc@i5120h.nrl.navy.mil (J. Clark) writes:
>Happy New Year All ....
>
>I have a question posed by some of our research types -
>
>Can ARC/INFO (latest version) data be used on the MAC ?  Is there an
>ARC/INFO for the mac or a different software package ?  Does any
>format conversion need to be done ..?
>
>Thanks for any thoughts/experiences
>
>John
>

ARC/INFO is not available on a Macintosh. A product called "ARCVIEW" is
avaible for the Mac but it is a tool for the query and visualization
of geographic data but is not a GIS like ARC/INFO.

Personally, I don't think ESRI will put ARC/INFO on a Mac any time soon.
And it's probably a good thing. Although ARC INFO is EXTREMELY powerful
it's user interface is not well thought out (even on their 6.0 version),
and the software is BUGGY AS HELL! I like the term a friend of mine has given 
to ARC/INFO. It's not user friendly...it's user-vindictive :-).

The Macintosh interface is extremely difficult to program, and 
is also well developed and planned. I think ESRI would have to 
put too much effort into redesigning the whole user interface of
ARC/INFO from the ground up in order for Mac users to appreciate it.
Best to use it on a UNIX system or VAX in my opinion.

You may wish, however, to check out ARC VIEW.


anne
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Subject: control markers on USGS quads
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:41:00 GMT
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   I have a question about USGS quads.  I'm doing a spot elevation coverage for
a GIS project (in ARC/INFO) and I've noticed many small numbers on the map
printed in the same style as the control data markers (benchmarks, etc.). 
However, these numbers aren't accompanied by a square, triangle, or X to denote
that it is indeed a control marker.  However, I've noticed all of these numbers
are near road intersections.  Do these numbers denote the spot elevation of the
middle of the intersection?  Is this an accurate enough assumption to include
them as spot elevations in my GIS?

Thanks in advance!!


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From:         Eric M Fowler <emfowler@CONVEX.CSD.UWM.EDU>
Subject:      Pennsylvania Information

If anyone knows where I can get information on Pittsburgh,
Allegheny County, or the entire state of Pennsylvania, please
email me.  I am mostly interested in property data and any
data related to businesses.  Thanks for your help.

Eric-

emfowler@convex.csd.uwm.edu
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From:         Rob Marsden <rmarsdena@CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK>
Subject:      DCW availability

Can anyone tell me the status of the DCW data. Is it in the public
domain? Is it copyright? What licence arrangements have to be made?

A number of our users would like to have access to a very limited
sub-set of this data. They require it in a proprietry format that
we will be required to provide. Being a limited sub-set, a CD-ROM
drive will not be acceptable to most of them. We would not make any
charge to these users for this service.

So where is the best place to get this data and the format
specification (bearing in mind that this is the UK). Any help or
pointers in the right direction would be welcomed.

TIA

Rob in the West Riding

( Rob Marsden  rmarsdena@cix.compulink.co.uk )
From: adoyle@BBN.COM (Allan Doyle)
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Subject: Re: Where to find GRASS et. al.
Date: 30 Dec 1992 16:57:58 GMT
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In article <lk3egsINNq7g@news.bbn.com> adoyle@BBN.COM (Allan Doyle) writes:
>Bill Thoen and others told you where to get GRASS, but Bill modestly
>left out the fact that he maintains a great document called
>
>        internet.resources.earth.sci
>
>and he's made it available via anonymous FTP from
>
>        cns.org                 (this is the original source)

Rats! That's csn.org...

	Allan


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From:         STGG8004@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE
Subject:      Re: IMPACT 2 PROPOSALS

> Hello European Community netters:
>
> Some or all of you are now aware of the EC research program,
> under the rubric of IMPACT 2, which will award 30 grants to
> support information services implementation using GIS.

> Two items to keep in mind are: 1) Spain now has several *entities*
> which are quite experienced in spatial data collection and publishing,
> and 2) Spain is a "less favoured nation", which ironically means it
> is more favored when it comes to receiving EC monies...

Just to jump on this particular bandwagon.... may I point out that Ireland
is also a "less favoured nation" within the EC; and we in Cork would also
be glad to receive suggestions for teaming up under IMPACT 2.

Darius Bartlett
(DJB@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE)
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:02:26 GMT
From:         gloria@HALCON.DPI.UDEC.CL

Hello,

I am looking for information (papers, technical reports, etc) on
the environmental impact studies on the construction of pipelines
for the transportation of petrolum products. Does anyone help me?

Thanks in advance,

Happy New Year!

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Sincerely
      Gloria Vidal
      Centro EULA
      Universidad de Concepcion.
      Email: gloria@halcon.dpi.udec.cl
      Fax: 56 (41) 242546
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