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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:48:36 -0400
From:         "(Mike Gingell)" <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Descriptive Video

I just found the answer to the question I put to the net, maybe the
answer will be of interest to others.

I just spoke to our local PBS TV station and it turns out certain programs
like Masterpiece Theater, American Playhouse, and Mystery are supported
by something called Descriptive Video Service or DVS which is a background
commentary on what is going on to help blind people enjoy the program.

Anyone with a stereo TV or VCR with SAP capability can get this. And as
for satellite it is carried on the SAP channel which is at 5.20 MHz
along with left/right stereo at 5.65/6.20 MHz and mono at 6.80 MHz.
Note: SAP = Secondary Audio Program.

This is an ideal application for a separate stereo processor. You can
pick of the SAP and Mono on 5.20/6.8 MHz while using your regular receiver
for stereo on 5.65/6.20 MHz.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:12:52 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject: Re: Drake 1524. I ordered it.

>I generally like on-screen control and it sure keeps costs down.  The
>only time I find it a hassle is when you're taping a feed and want to
>make a minor correction in the skew or something.  You don't want
>this on the tape.  Fortunately, I think many receivers have a video
>output of only the satellite video without the receiver's graphics.
>If not, you can easily add it.  Set up a little 5" b/w monitor for
>control and away you go.

If THAT were the case I would be truly happy.  I don't think that is the case
though.

>Hope you enjoy the 1524,

me too...

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From: alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: The Dr Who Hour (sci-fi chnl)
Summary: When is an hour not an hour
Keywords: grrrrr
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:04:50 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

I may be missing something but...

I'm so annoyed, the Dr. Who "hour" seems to run from 9am (PST)
to 9:30am (PST). The quote from Sci-fi advertising...

"A whole hour, the way they were intended to be viewed" (well a close quote)

I WANT MY WHOLE HOUR BACK

--alen
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From: Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com (MUMPS Wizard)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Wild Feeds listing -- better than first time, but...
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:03:46 GMT
Organization: Science Applications Int'l, Corp. - Computer systems operation

roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers) writes (in part):
>>>In the Heat of the Nght 3p      T1/13   MTWHF
>> 
>>This should read 3 am, not 3 pm.
>
>This is right.  This ITHOTN is the syndicated show version (seen
>locally on my over-the-air TV station).  It is at 3p in the
>afternoon M-F.
>
>You must be thinking of the Network TV ITHOTN.
 
I don't think its the network feed since its on M-F.  Perhaps the correct
answer is to show both 3am and 3pm.
 
Mark Berryman
Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com
From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Viewing Note
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 19:56:49 EDT
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Why doing some sky scanning on Monday or Tuesday (don't remember which)
I discovered that Transponder 3 of Telstar 303 was active with
VideoCipher II+ encryption.

The channel was running in fixed key mode so I was able to watch the
happenings.

The channel was uplinked by HBO as in the corner there was an HBO logo and
the words 'For Internal Use Only'.  The transmitted a series of different
test patterns and clips from movies, boxing matches and their Wimbledon
coverage.  When they showed the Wimbledon coverage they added in a
slate which said 'PAL Converted'.

Does anybody have an idea what this channel may be used?  My theory is 
that it may be a West Feed of HBO 3 or a West Feed of Cinemax 2.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:24:14 EDT
From:         Bill Jones <wejones@CRDEC7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: feedhorn alignment

> : > The new dish has a
> : > quad support for the feedhorn and after a couple of hours of trial and
> : > error I got the feedhorn (Chaparral co-rotor) aligned to within +/- 1/16
> inch
> : > of the center. Is this close enough?
>
> There's a picture in an older Mark Long book that shows 4 or 5 feedhorns
> mounted on a bar at the focus of one dish.  So you could be quite a ways off
> and it would still work.  It's just optics, and you could probaly dig up
> some telescope equations that could show you how far off center you could
> be before the optical effects (aberation?) get in the way.  But being too
> far off may make aiming and tracking a problem.
>
I was under the impression that those dishes with multiple feeds were
circular rather than parabolic, but in any event they were designed for that.
I once tried to offset a separate KU feedhorn (keeping it on the equatorial
plane), and had very poor results.  I think a normal parabolic dish
loses resolution fairly fast off axis, but I'm talking about several
inches.  I agree that small errors of less than an inch can be easily
compensated for by alignment.

> : I would say that while both parameters are important,
> : focal length and feedhorn centering, focal length is the primary one to be
> : concerned with.
> : I think +/- 1/16 th is close enough since the holes
> : in the dish are 1/10 inch.
>
> More important is the 2.5 centimeter wavelength of the signal.  Or one inch.
> So, as a SWAG, you need to be within 1/4 wave (inch).  1/10 th is even
> better.  C band is 7.5 centimeters.
>
The wavelength is really not important in itself.  I think the diameter of the
feed-horn opening is what is critical, but since that is proportional to the
wavelength, it ends up with the same conclusions.  I would agree that the
focal length is more critical than centering since you can compensate for
bad centering by re aiming, but can't compensate for a bad focal length, but
I think this is really what was meant here, but I wasn't sure.
Anyway, 1/16" accuracy should be plenty good.
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Star Trek : The Next Generation Feeds
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:41:27 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
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Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <21101@plains.NoDak.edu> tscott@plains.NoDak.edu (Timothy E Scott) writes:
<
<
<When and where do the Star Trek : TNG feeds occurs?  I'm almost
<positive they're on TelStar 301, but as far as which transponder
<and when, I'm at a loss.

Gee, I found someone who doesn't read Orbit Magazine's Wild Feed section :-)

T301-9 Sat 1800 ET
T301-9 Sun 1400 ET
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From: wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE (Wolfgang R. Schulz)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Russian Sats? Receivable in N.A.?
Date: 17 Oct 92 01:50:31 GMT
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              "rkobenter@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA" at Oct 16, 92 5:49 pm

In Europe it requires exotic C-Band with circular polarization,
which only a minority has. But only relatively small dishes (1.2m)
will be sufficient.
Wolfgang
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From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: Re:      Re: ARD on ECS only, CNNI, SOLAR, Olympus
Organization: eng
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:04:59 GMT

In article <m0mdKkv-0002ZWC@mcshh.Hanse.DE> "(Wolfgang R. Schulz)" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE> writes:
>Jurgen Bartels wrote:

>ARD was not asked for permission to use the Eutelsat 13 East for this,
>because Telecom consideres Eutelsat to be a telecommunication system
>which is not ment to be watched by the public...hahaha. The SES,

So, ARD has to pay the extra bill the movie companies will propbably
ask due to the 'extented' coverage area? And Telecom gets away with it?
Do you for how long ARD will be send via sat to Dresden?

>> Brighstar on 21.5W relays now ABC worldnews for Sky-NEWS at 20:00 UTC
>
>Thanks for that good news. Receiption is much better on 21.W than on
>PanAmSat here. Is the nightly ABC News on PAS 45 West gone?

I don't know, I've never received PAS, trees are standing in the way.
One day I'm gonna buy a chain saw ....


Jurgen


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From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: WELL
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:13:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS-UUCP

Does anyone have the schedule for the NHL for the satellite dish owner?

Did anyone watch Greensheet on Oct 6th, Tuesday, and if so, tell me what
happened?
                                                                                                    
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:10:41 EDT
From:         "John R. Stephens, Jr." <JSTEPHEN@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Can 1 Dish look at 2 Sats???

On Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:23:02 -0400 MICHAEL KRAMER, TSUTC, (410) 830-2591 said:
>We are reviewing a proposal for a Networking plan for our campus.  Part of that
>network pertains to video...and part of that is receiving satellite
>transmissions from six different satellites.  The proposal states that one dish
>can pick up two different sat birds simultaneously.  Can this be done?
>
==================stuff deleted===============================================
>
>me what you need.  One of these dishes are spec to look at G5 and S4.  Is this
>possible?  The systems we currently have only look at one satellite.

Michael, we use one of our dishes with a multiple feed assembly.  There are two
companies who offer such and COMTECH is not one of them.  That does not mean
they do not offer such, but only that I am not aware of it.

SIMULSAT is the only dish which offers a dish which can view a lrge number of
satellites over the full range of the geo-sync belt, of  which I know.

The dish we use is circular, with a feed horn assembly which is useful over a
range of about 15 degrees of the arc.  Currently we look at G5, F3, G1 & F1
with this unit (12 degrees of the ARC).  I would be concerned about a circular
dish attempting to look at 24 degrees of ARC, S4 to G5.  If it were attempted
I would write some TIGHT performance specifications which were measureable
and enforcable. Incidentally, this dish would be FIXED, not steerable.  Very
critical on setup to get all the birds.

Hope this helps some, John

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From: "bob lyle" <bob.lyle@canrem.com>
Subject: baseball
Reply-To: "bob lyle" <bob.lyle@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:08:15 EST

For those with Ku capability, the Baseball Playoffs are available on Ku
without commercials on SBS-5. Both Tr.8 and 12 have been used. (SBS-5 is
a 14
transponder bird. 1-10 are vertical, 11-14 are horzontal) These are
in-the-clear CBS backhauls using 6.2L/6.8R stereo. The C band backhauls
are
VC-1 encrypted.

Regards!

 Bob 













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From: wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE (Wolfgang R. Schulz)
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Subject: Re: Strange effect noticed on EBU Sarajevo broadcast
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:24:41 GMT
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              15, 92 1:47 pm

Harald:

hope you don't mind this to be answred by knowledge and not guessing...

We did in fact reverse the image by a digital effects generator to let
the reporter look into the correct direction when he talks to the
ancor woman.

Double hop through EBU Centre was a correct guess.

Regards,

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From: pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com (John Pimentel)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: SENATE TRIES TO OVERRIDE CABLE BILL VETO TODAY!
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:32:55 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <9210070026.AA07896@lopez.marquette.MI.US>, flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US ((Gary Bourgois)) writes...
>Mike says...
> 
>Well I am against government intervention in MOST cases, but frankly
>SOMETHING had to be done to bring FAIR PRICING to the dish market.  The EQUAL
>ACCESS provision was needed.  It is part of the law.

And another part of the law is a "re-transmission fee" paid to the "major
networks" for "re-broadcast of 'their' signal".  

> 
>The only question is how will it be implimented.

Cut in price, probably not for a while.

Inclusion of "re-transmission fee". probably immediately.

Do the words "STICK IT TO THE CONSUMER AGAIN" have any significant meaning?

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From: markz@ssc.com (Mark Zenier)
Subject: Re: Trivia quiz - What's This Equipment????
Organization: SSC, Inc.,  Seattle, WA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:30:24 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

SASJZS@VMS.SAS.COM ("Joe Slater x7534") writes:
:    3. Are feedhorns specific to the focal length of the dish, ie. could
:       I take this feedhorn and mount it on my 8' dish with any chance of
:       it working?

Feedhorns don't care about the focal distance.  The main variable is
how wide is its field of view (or beamwidth).  Too narrow a beamwidth,
and it's not using the outer edges of the disk, and too wide results
in seeing past the rim at the noisy world behind the dish.

Another way of specifiying beamwidth is the f/d ratio, the focal length
divided by the diameter.  The smaller the number, the wider the
feedhorn beamwidth.

Mark Zenier  markz@ssc.wa.com
From: tscott@plains.NoDak.edu (Timothy E Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Star Trek : The Next Generation Feeds
Summary: WHERE/WHEN?
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:13:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.21101
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Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network



When and where do the Star Trek : TNG feeds occurs?  I'm almost
positive they're on TelStar 301, but as far as which transponder
and when, I'm at a loss.

Thanks in advance.

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From: markz@ssc.com (Mark Zenier)
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Subject: Re: feedhorn alignment
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:20:06 GMT
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robe@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.g.egan) writes:
: In article <1992Oct12.155006.13121@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, schmitt@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Leonard Schmitt 283-4150) writes:
: > The new dish has a
: > quad support for the feedhorn and after a couple of hours of trial and
: > error I got the feedhorn (Chaparral co-rotor) aligned to within +/- 1/16 inch
: > of the center. Is this close enough?  
 
There's a picture in an older Mark Long book that shows 4 or 5 feedhorns
mounted on a bar at the focus of one dish.  So you could be quite a ways off 
and it would still work.  It's just optics, and you could probaly dig up
some telescope equations that could show you how far off center you could
be before the optical effects (aberation?) get in the way.  But being too 
far off may make aiming and tracking a problem.

: I would say that while both parameters are important, 
: focal length and feedhorn centering, focal length is the primary one to be
: concerned with. 
: I think +/- 1/16 th is close enough since the holes
: in the dish are 1/10 inch.

More important is the 2.5 centimeter wavelength of the signal.  Or one inch.
So, as a SWAG, you need to be within 1/4 wave (inch).  1/10 th is even
better.  C band is 7.5 centimeters.

Mark Zenier  markz@ssc.wa.com  
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From: rcu@cbnewse.cb.att.com (robert.c.ushman)
Subject: Birdview receiver conversion info.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:22:33 GMT
Keywords: Birdview descrambler conversion

A few months ago, someone mentioned they had "conversion kit" information
to convert an older Birdview receiver to make it adaptable to connect a
VideoCypher descrambler.  If anyone has this information, I would greatly
appreciate information on where to obtain this kit.  If possible, please
respond directly to my account so I don't accidently miss any replies.
Thank you.

Bob Ushman
rcu@ihlpm.att.com
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:18:06 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Wild Feeds listing -- better than first time, but...

>In article <1992Oct13.161919.29457@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> robe@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
>(robert.g.egan) writes:
>>
>>Robert Smathers can't find the Howard Stern show feed. The reason is, I
>>believe, his show was cancelled last Spring, so this summer was all reruns.
>>WWOR which produced the show said they were cancelling it, but of course,
>>Howard claimed that he decided not to do the show anymore during his radio
>>show after the WWOR announcement (yeah, right).

>Yes, I know he was cancelled, but after his last new show, the
>wild feeds of the Howard Stern show continued.  I am beginning
>to wonder now if they are going to quit feeding repeats and
>rely on TV stations to use tapes of past episodes if they
>want to continue showing the Howard Stern show.

They ran repeats only to fulfill contract obligations.  Once the show had
aired to the end of those obligations, no station can show it any more, and
no new ones are made, so bye bye stuttering john...

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:59:36 CST
From:         Larry Peterson <CC38@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Info wanted on building a satellite TV system

Vipin,
If you go through the older Radio Electronics magazines, you will
find that in about 1985 or a little earlier they had complete
instructions and schematics for building dishes and Receivers.

It would be a lot of work.

I have been able to buy a Guillespe Receiver for 35.00 and I have
bought a LNA for 75.00.  and the Dish was Free.

I know my time is not worth that little.  So I didn't and wouldn't.

Larry
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From: etb@CS.PITT.EDU (Elmer Beachley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Drake 1524. I ordered it.
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:42:52 GMT
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Gary:

A few comments WRT Drake and your purchase of their 1524:

I recently purchased the Drake 1250, a commercial receiver, and got
the schematics.  There were several questions I had while going thru
the schematics and just for fun called their customer service number.
Well, I started going through my questions.  Very quickly, the customer
support guy realized he was not going to be much help, but he wrote
everything down and went and talked to the design engineer and called
back with all the answers.  Couldn't ask for better than that.

It may be possible to fix the blue screen, or at least change it to black
or grey, if you're at all familiar with tv electronics.  The computer
genlocks to the incoming video or free-runs if there is none.  Usually
a single chip does all the character generation and there's a switch
that selects tv picture or characters.  Just look at how the character
video is formed.

I generally like on-screen control and it sure keeps costs down.  The
only time I find it a hassle is when you're taping a feed and want to
make a minor correction in the skew or something.  You don't want
this on the tape.  Fortunately, I think many receivers have a video
output of only the satellite video without the receiver's graphics.
If not, you can easily add it.  Set up a little 5" b/w monitor for
control and away you go.

Hope you enjoy the 1524,

Elmer Beachley etb@cs.pitt.edu