From: popec@rivdell.sccsi.com (PopeC)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Phil Gramm
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 22:49:44 CDT
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:

> In article <BPNFqB1w165w@fennec.sccsi.com> popec@fennec.sccsi.com (William C.
> >Eris Seiferman, (Aug 31), posts the thought that Danny Boy's main 
> >opponent in 96 will be Pat "Cultural Warfare" Buchanan. Soory to say this 
> >is wrong.  It will be Texas' own Senator Phil Gramm.  For those who don't 
> >know Gramm is one of the handful of Congresscritters that were Reagan 
> >Robots in 1980.  He was one of the true architecys of Reaganomics, and as 
> >dangerous a fool as you will find in the Congress.  Watch this guy.  He 
> >is creepy in a special way that only old time Phil Gramm watchers can 
> >really appreciate.
> 
> I should be upset that you misspelled BOTH of my names, but
> since this is alt.fan.DAN-QUAYLE I take it in stride.
> 
> Interesting point, though.  Gramm is often exhibited on tv
> shows like THIS WEEK and MACNEIL-LEHRER as a conservative
> intellectual and economics expert, but an examination of his
> statements shows him to be just another party hack more than
> willing to suck-up to the Religious Rite (sic).  Being from
> Texas he fits in with the RepubliCon southern strategy.
> He is a Washington DC insider (what! GHWB always claims that
> his gang is composed of outsiders.  silly me) and probably
> has accumulated enough poliltical debts to make a run
> at the top job.
> 
> I had been thinking of other 1996 candidates who are photogenic
> conservative barfers (bushers) like Newt Gingrich or the
> irrepressible Jack Kemp.  Your warning about Gramm will be kept
> in mind.
> 
> BTW, if Gramm is nominated, what sort of VP should he choose?
> Someone from the North, for regional balance.  Someone younger
> than himself.  Someone with a nationally known name.
> Someone popular with the party right wing.  Hmmm ...
> 
> >----------------
> >William C. Barwell [popec@fennec.sccsi.com]  //  Pope Charles
> 
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> | Eric Sieferman            |    sieferme@u.washington.edu          |
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ERRRR.. Sorry Eric.  Actually, I didn't mispell you name, I mistyped it.  
Actually I am more of a 'Gerald Ford' than a "Dan Quayle" when it comes 
to typing.  Beykord Dyslexia?
  Gramm has gotten real slick as of late, but he used to get real off the 
wall occasionally.  For instance, when the Berlin Wall was being torn 
down, Child Care was a big political issue.  Gramm said something along 
the lines of, 'Child care is the sort of socialism they're tearing that 
wall down to escape!"  He used to regularly shoot his mouth off like this 
regularly.  Unfortunately I did not clip any of his more bizarre 
utterances, tho' if he runs, we will all probably see the press 
resurrecting them for our enjoyment. Phil Gramm also has a reputation as 
being vicious.  He is almost as nasty as Robert dole on a bad day, tho' 
he seems to be trying to clean himself up a little here.  He also has a 
habit of what is called here in Texas, "Grammstanding."  That is, taking 
credit for projects that other Texas politicians were responsible for, 
and in many cases even opposed.  He likes to set up press conferences to 
crow about these things and it has left a lot of Texas congressman almost 
apoplectic with rage to see Gramm get lots of air time, and credit for 
things on which he did essentially nothing.  Except have a better 
understanding of how to manipulate the press.  And he was one of the 
masterminds of Reaganomics.  He has a degree in economics, but then so 
did David Stockman.  But a lot of the Reagan right, as opposed to the 
religous right likes him very well.  He could be an important factor in 
the upcoming battle for the Republican Party between the 'moderate' and 
Christian Coalitian Repulicans.  Gramm has picked a couple of careful 
fights with the Far Right to positian himself here as the champion of the 
Reagan Republicans.  He an asshole, and oftentimes a fool, but he's a 
good infighter with all the mercy of a barracuda and he's out to win.
  It will be interesting to see if he can keep his tendancy to say 
bizarre vicious things under control for the next 4 years.  
  Who would he choose.  HMMMM.   Hard to say.  $ years is a long time to 
be figuring that yet.  He is one of the top money raisers, both for 
himself, and for the Republican Party.  Watch this clown.  If Clinton 
fucks up his term, even a little, Gramm willbe like a shark in blood 
filled waters.  I'll see if I can dig up some choice Phil Gramm 
bizarre-isms.  His speech at the R. Convention was fairly resrained for 
Phil Gramm, and fell more than a little Flatt. Usually he's alot meaner 
than that.

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