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From: kls30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L Shephard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: CD RECORDER - Cheap!, Well.....
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:29:21 GMT
Reply-To: kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr7.014921.25886@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> be126@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Powers) writes:
>
>There may be hope for those of us who only want a few CD's
>made of our demos without paying $1000 for 'em...we just have to
>find someone with:
>
>	The new Marantz CD Recorder - Hey, it's $7500 list,
>but itreally exists!!! Makes >96DB range CD's on your
>kitchen table with an S/N of 89dB....
>
>	The model is the CDR600, saw it in a Lentines Ad
>in Cleveland. So, if you're one of those rich folk, but
>it - and charge us poor folk a nimonal fee to make a few CD's
>for our demos!!!
>

You would be better off getting some pressed.  The media for the
the cd recording machine is $80 a pop.  For someone to cut a CD you can
figure on a price 2-3x the media cost.

5 cds cut for you on that machine >$1000.
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From: lv0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lisa Laverne Vaughan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: DidINukeMy Performer in Install?
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:33:30 GMT
Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

just a brief question, not deserving of any net conferencing... but, I'm
really unfamiliar with MAC's (I just bought a IIsi, 7.0) and Performer 
3.61.  I did the install, then for some reason I thought it wasn't working
right, so I 
1) Used the master disk & did a "remove"
2) then dragged the icon to the trash/emptied trash
3) copied the diskette copy onto the Hard Drive

When I try to run it, the install is no longer available and I always have
to insert the master disk.  It's not really a hassle, but I'm wondering 
if I blew my one and only chance for an install... thankx, lisa
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: kraig@biostr.washington.edu (Kraig Eno)
Subject: Re: Roland JV-80
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:04:09 GMT

from me:
>> What an insipid board. etc., etc...

from cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com:
>This is almost as funny as the M1 bashing. The JV-80 sounds like a toy ? What
>were you listening to it through, an Emerson clock radio ? The Jv-80 I heard
>has the same excellent sound quality as the JD-800 - probably because they
>both use the same 44.1khz samples. Granted some of the presets are a little
>cheesey, but it's no Casio. 

Listening through headphones.  Granted the sound quality is quite good (I seem
to remember saying that) but as you said, some of the presets are "a little
cheesey".  Like the fingered bass patch that clicks wildly when you play
several notes in rapid succession.  The pandemic "stab" presets.  I mean,
how many layers can we pile up here?  As if any modern synth can't do
layers, Roland has to make several extremely obnoxious presets to demonstrate
this one feature.  And I'd compare their saxophone patch with any Casio any
day, really.  The big kicker is all those pianos.  I mean, the piano in my
WS EX is quite bad, almost useless; but it sounds far better than any of the
ones in the JV-80.  Why waste the space?  Put in one or two piano patches to
satisfy those who must have it, and move on to something the machine can
actually do.  Another thing I didn't like was the pressure rates and levels
on the patches that used it.  I'm sure this can be reprogrammed (I hope), but
they sounded terrible.  Only with careful attention could I avoid sudden
hyper-extended response, with the attendant discrete jumps in level or effect.

I don't expect any manufacturer to put in useful
presets any more, but at least they should use them to showcase the synth.
When they sound awful, it makes me wonder if the samples themselves are
awful or if it's just the guy who fiddled with the buttons before they burned
the ROMs. I guess my biggest response is, "if you want us to pay $2000 for
something then at least act like you're trying to do it right from start
to finish".

I believe another poster has already complained about the lack of originality.
Ross-c said in reference to the JV-80, "but I suppose not every synth has
to be a groundbreaker."  I disagree.  If it doesn't break new ground, then
don't bother; spend your time fixing the holes in the last one you did.
(I know this doesn't make economic sense, but I only go so far in my loyalty
to manufacturers before I get fed up).

>I won't even go into your expert evaluation of the JD-800 - "didn't look like  
>what I'd want" - if we judged synths on looks they'd sell the K2000 right
>next to the Casios at Kmart . . .but I digress. 

OK, OK, I meant it didn't look like what I wanted as the centerpiece of my
SOUND.  Come to think of it, that's what I said.  I don't care about looks,
I only care that it sounds good to the ear and is versatile.  The JD-800
is useful, as are all the sliders; but I it doesn't span quite
the breadth that I'd like if I were only buying one instrument.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders)
Subject: Re: ... Let's get USENET Recording '92 rolling ...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:24:20 GMT

>>Re: USENET CD

>>One thing to keep in mind is that USENET '91 was 2x90 min.
>>cassettes.  That would require 2 CD's.

>Not only that, but there may be more people wanting to submit their
>material now that there's this new format.  This may result in more
>music than can fit on 2 90-minute tapes!!!

Would it be a worthwhile idea to present several rough categories into which
the artists could voluntarily fit their creations?  Here's just an example:
1) Experimental  2) Danceable  3) Atmospheric.  It sounds as if there are 
likely to be a *lot* of submissions, judging by the exponential growth of the 
'Net itself.  Perhaps we could even justify 3 or 4 volumes.  Eeek!

Barry
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From: wesley@inqmind.bison.mb.ca (Wesley Konrad)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Multisound
Date: 12 Apr 92 07:24:18 GMT
Organization: The Inquiring Mind  1 204 488-1607

Will.ROCH803@XEROX.COM writes:

> Anyone know about the price and availability of the new Turtle Beach multisou
> (I think that's what they call it) card?

Leigh's Computers has it listed as being $825.  It doesn't say anything 
about compatibility.  

Leigh's Computers
1475 Third Ave.
New York, NY.
10028
1-800-321-6434
(in New York) 212-879-6257
(fax) 212-772-1689


wesley

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From: koelman@cuby.stc.nl (Ton Koelman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: How Engineers make music
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:10:03 GMT
Reply-To: koelman@stc.nl
Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL

In article <1992Apr9.142621.26608@cas.org> lrm28@cas.org writes:
> A good example of music made by engineers would be the first two Boston
> albums.  The arrangements and solo music are...meticulous.  Every note
> is in its place.  Guitarist Tom Scholz formed SRD to manufacture the
> Rockman line of equipment.  Both albums are excellent!  Yet, there is
> a certain sterility in his tone and content; maybe it's too precise.
> 

Interesting. There are definitely spots on the albums (the third
is pretty good too) where he freaks out completely without much
(apparent) control. I need a re-listen though to quote 
the exact spots...  In general however, if you're doing several
dozen guitar line overdubs, you'd better have your act together...

Ton K.
Long Time Scholz fan and Electrical Engineer

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From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (skinny puppy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Not fo' sale no mo'
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:09:27 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

The Roland R5 drum machine and DSP-128 have been sold.
 
Five

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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: ... Let's get USENET Recording '92 rolling ...
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:41:08 GMT
	<73979@netnews.upenn.edu> <1992Apr14.172420.19347@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck
In-reply-to: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu's message of 14 Apr 92 17:24:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.172420.19347@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) writes:

   Would it be a worthwhile idea to present several rough categories into which
   the artists could voluntarily fit their creations?  Here's just an example:
   1) Experimental  2) Danceable  3) Atmospheric.

NO! NO WAY! The music business is tied up with pigeonholing music like this
already; let's not do it here.

Nick.
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From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: DidINukeMy Performer in Install?
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:06:32 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

It sez somewhere in the manual (page 1 or 3 or so), *never* to get rid of
a copy of Performer by dragging the file to the trash.  You gotta
"uninstall" the beast.  MOTU also sez that they send a backup floppy
some time after they get the registration information, so you
should be able to do a HD install from it.  (Maybe).

I'm also a Mac novice (my Classic II is one month old :-), but I always
took the hype about "applications being so easy to use you never need
the manual" with a pound of salt.  For the past month, I've been reading
manuals, the Mac Bible, and the odd Mac magazine to the exclusion of
more fun things, like playing music.  I *think* I know how to use
Performer, and am far enough into the Galaxy manual to be pretty
impressed with it, even if the WS editor doesn't believe in F/X parameters.

(I've also been leery of copy-protected software ever since my PC Clone's
hard disk died, taking an installation of Lotus 123 with it.  The PC
world has figured out how to survive without copy protection, but seeing
the same old stuff in the music programs triggered some old [paranoid]
responses.  I won't get into the wisdom of copy protection; I've seen
enough postings asking for a copy of XXX's manual to get the idea...)

I guess this all boils down to the bit; RTFM, it'll tell you some stuff.

Pete Brooks
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Raise yours hands if ...
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:38:10 GMT
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck
In-reply-to: dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu's message of 15 Apr 92 01:48:05 GMT

In article <29EB8B55.4273@noiro.acs.uci.edu> dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:

   "My God, what was that huge swooshing sound??"
   "That was the sound of 20 million synth players simultaneously raising their
    arms."

"...causing a slight but large irrelevant shift in the planet's orbital
 trajectory." (Hitch-hikers Guide, Episode 7)

Actually, I wonder what the demand is for the WAVE? I mean, I sure as hell
would love one, but what about yer average KEYBOARD-reading pop-oriented
Spandex Clown? This ain't no smash-hit top-20 Top L.A. Studio TV soundtrack
sample player.

Nick.
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From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (skinny puppy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: !!! The WAVE Flyer !!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:09:46 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay) writes:

> In article <1792.9204131316@orsun.dcs.leeds.ac.uk> ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK (Th
> >[Amazing details of The WAVE deleted]
> >I know this comment has been made in this newsgroup several times before, bu
> >How much is all this going to COST.
> 
> For a basic 16-voice machine with the regular 61-note keyboard, the current
> estimate is about 10,000 Deutschmarks. That's around 3300 pounds for those
> of you on the far side of the puddle, and a hair under 6000 bucks in the USA
> (call it 6500 to 7000 in CanuxBux). 
 
Canuxbux?  Michael!  I'm in-SULT-ted!  ;)
 
Actually, looking at yesterdays paper, the latest conversion for 
DM (German currency) is $1 (Cdn) = 0.75 DM.  So the Wave, without 
considering any of our lovely added Canadian taxes, works out to about 
$7500 (Cdn.)  
(Canuxbux)
To get a price for something in Canada (at least, here in Winnipeg) take 
the US List Price.  That's about what we pay.
 
Five
> 

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From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Elvis in keyboard issue April 1992
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.edu

>From: Kiernan Holland <kholland@edu.UNM.HYDRA>
>Subject: Elvis in keyboard issue April 1992
>
>Does anyone know what kind of trick they were trying to pull
>in keyboard magazine, april 1992?? All the writers and editors
>pictures were replaced with pictures of Elvis. Keyboard,
>Elvis is dead. ;-)
>

No, but I can't wait to see it. :-)

Ross-c
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:44:00 CDT
From:         Z3KPW@TTACS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Elvis in keyboard issue April 1992

>I saw that too.  Dominic's Editor's column offers *some* half-baked
>explanation
>for it but I got the feeling it was an inside joke of some sort.


Man, Elvis is the inside joke of the entire American pop culture...
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Subject: Re: re Oh, yea, about ADAT
Organization: Sony Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 17:30:17 GMT


In article <JGJ.92Apr17081212@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com>, jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com (Jeff Jackson) writes:
|> (prices are more or less guesses, but you get the drift.)  My guess
|> is that small recording studios will be as obsolete as blacksmiths
|> before long.

What do you mean by "small recording studios"?  If you mean small
commercial studios, I disagree.  In fact, I would expect to see even
more of them, since it will be possible to construct a complete
16-track digital recording studio without a lot of money.

Remember that most musicians don't want to become recording system
owners and operators.  Church choirs, high school/college band
ensembles, lounge singers, country performers, and even metal bands
want to be able to make demos and small-run recordings without having
to do it all themselves.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: scrs_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Shorts)
Subject: ***** Roland D-10 SOLD *****
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 07:49:29 GMT

Thanks for all the interest in the Roland D-10 
	It has been sold........

For Peter, I thank you again.

Shorts
From: mk4l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Alan Kane)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Seeking Donations
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:34:50 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hello -- 
I'm an art grad student at Carnegie Mellon University.
and am currently designing a permanent exhibit for
The Pittsburgh Children's Museum.
The piece (Luminaria) is basically a light sensitive wall
which will control a MIDI synthesizer.

I am searching for donations of:
	-> Apple II Computer
	-> Disk Drive
	-> Monitor
	-> Passport MIDI Interface
	-> Any MIDI synth
	-> Stereo Amp and Speakers

If you have any of this stuff sitting around in your closet
gathering dust, or know someone who might...
please reply to this account,
or to mak@largo.lbl.gov,
or call (412) 421-3930

Thank you,
		 Matthew Kane

(P.S. I would also be interested in anyone selling the above 
mentioned equipment at extremely cheap prices.)
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Seeking weird analog synth
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:26:00 GMT


Who's Next was released at the tail end of 1970 (if I remember correctly),
the 2500 was a second generation ARP design which didn't hit the street
until well into 1972.  I am confident that Won't get fooled Again is
made up of an organ processed through an EMS VCS3.  I also think that
Babba O'Riley and other synth parts on Who's Next were done with an ARP
2600.  Additionally, I am reasonably confident that the 2500 didn't appear
on a Who album until Quadrophenia, and the sequenced part of Love Reign Or
Me is a 2500.


John
From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Problems!!!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:54:00 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <2008.9204071247@orsun.dcs.leeds.ac.uk>, ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK (The Brown Bottle) writes...
>Bahasa malaysia saya ta'baik. Saya minta maaf. Orang-orang perumpuan malay
>chantek!   ...... erm ....... Don't you think so?
> 

People, making fun of a native speaker of a language that you don't happen to
understand is impolite, and makes you look like a hick.   The original posting
looked to be in a natural language that I expect someone on this group to
understand and be able to respond to. Maybe you guys are offering constructive
advice in pidgin-Tralfamadorian, but I don't think so.

Eirikur Hallgrimsson   | "Hey, what *is* that thing?  It looks like a telephone
eh@ranger.enet.dec.com |  switchboard trying to mate with a Hammond organ!"
PATHWORKS for Macintosh|

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From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Alesis ADAT and BRC
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.edu

From: Darren

[Alesis ADAT Specs deleted]

>     I'd wait until they come out with a second model just in case
>their are any bugs with it, though.  I wouldn't be surprised if
>Sony, within the next three years, offers to buy Alesis out like they
>did with Kurzweil.

[inserted mid-line]

Wasn't that Young-Chang? (then covers his bets by asking "Is Young Chang
			  part of Sony?")

[K2000 trivia inserted - after some prodding I got Washburn UK to agree to
 sell me a K2000 manual. It came out in the conversation that only 10
 machines have arrived in the UK.]

>		     They don't seem to like anyone catch up with them
>with DSP recording technology.
>
>						Darren
>

This might sound like a joke, but I'm serious. Their main "dislike" may
be that if they don't buy the company, one of their competitors might. With
Matsushita Denki being a major worry.

Ross-c
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From: jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com (Jeff Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Usenet Tape depression sets in.
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:02:20 GMT
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	<1992Apr8.133056.6797@icd.ab.com>
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In-reply-to: jaz@icd.ab.com's message of 8 Apr 92 13:30:56 GMT


> Many poor musicians make up for their lack of talent by having really
> expensive equipment. I often wonder what these people would sound
> like on an acoustic instrument.

> Engineers make lots of money (Present
> company excluded of course). They usually have lots of toys. This does
> not mean that they can make better music necessarily. The best music
> comes from the soul, not the pocketbook.

True.  I'm one of those engineers, have lots of toys, could stand to
make a little more money (:-) and have difficulty playing barre cords.

I have an hypothesis about engineers and music, or at least software
engineers and music.  We spend our entire day thinking about and in
precise algorithms, tracing our way through deterministic (usually :-)
systems, dealing with life through non-emotional, scientific
objectivity.  In short, Computer Programmers/Software Engineers are
nerds.  And we despartely want to feel, to get away from silicon and
to our soul.  But it isn't easy.  And we approach it as a technical
problem.  What is the algorithm for playing with feeling?  Our
instinctual reaction to the problem is to throw hardware and software
at it.  But doesn't work (or at least it hasn't for me ... yet).
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From: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Tounges & Interpretation (was Re: Problems!!!!!)
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:29:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: shamash.40594
Reply-To: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Organization: Control Data Corp., Arden Hills, MN

In article <3696@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, pgr@ramandu.ext.vt.edu (Patrick
Robinson) writes:
|>metlay writes
|>> >>	Je ne sais pas; mais, peut-etre si vous posez le question en anglais,
|>> >>il y sera plus de personnes qui peuvent repondre.
|>> >Nishin: Nihongo ga wakaru hito wa, hitori de mo kono guruup wo
yonde iru hito
|>> >iru kai?
|>> 
|>> Izvinityeh, pozhaluista, no ya dumayu shto etot razgovor ochen' glupui'!
|>> U nas nyet luchyie temui, kak MIDI ili kotorii K2000 lyche chem Alesis S5?
|>
|>Oooo... bemahmma fluk moogie flabber nerble fremlap vimmdo "LXP-5" seegin
|>waggy furplesmurch mibbur ig crumple bummy "Quadraverb" ... horf, horf, horf.
|>
|>> Kazhetsya, shto vo vsyekh stranakh, nasha samaya ogromnaya problema, eto,
|>> kak vy skazhitye, 'BANDWIDTH'?
|>
|>Bluggedy thorpuplop omi whacka flibbilorck.  Grumbucky wuggle, glumpie poo.
|>
|>> Bozhe moi. Shto blizhaishchi? Yebraiskii?
|>> |->
|>
|>Harg!  Glub Blug dip woot-boof wammie!
|>
|>-Patrick
|> pgr@ramandu.ext.vt.edu
                        
OK, we've heard the tounges. Now who's got the interpretation? 

Alex.

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