HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: newsstats@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Top 25 News Submitters by User by Kbytes for the last 2 weeks
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:45:20 GMT


         No. of       % of
Rank Articles KBytes Total   User
   1   245    9875.2  1.7%   ins132g@aurora.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU  (Mike Battersby)
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.misc

   2   224    7951.3  1.3%   rahayden@news.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU  (Robert Hayden)
			      55% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
			      40% alt.binaries.sounds.misc

   3    31    4484.4  0.8%   hoeric@ecf.TORONTO.EDU  (HO ERIC)
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

   4    74    3826.6  0.6%   bwillan4@mach1.WLU.CA  (brian willan 9209 U)
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

   5    84    3139.4  0.5%   jeffp@netcom.NETCOM.COM
			      90% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
			      7% alt.binaries.pictures.utilities

   6    70    2997.0  0.5%   mer@netcom.COM  (Mike Romero)
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

   7    50    2977.5  0.5%   andrean@ccwf.CC.UTEXAS.EDU  (Andre Arianto Nurwono)
			      99% alt.binaries.sounds.misc

   8    57    2790.4  0.5%   terry@col.HP.COM  (Terry Thero)
			      54% alt.binaries.pictures.misc
			      45% alt.binaries.pictures

   9    63    2555.8  0.4%   leo@zelator.IN-BERLIN.DE  (Stefan Hartmann)
			      48% alt.binaries.pictures.misc
			      48% alt.binaries.pictures.utilities

  10    25    2403.1  0.4%   kc3r+@andrew.CMU.EDU  (Kin Chan )
			      61% alt.binaries.pictures.misc
			      38% alt.binaries.pictures

  11    43    2202.1  0.4%   mra@searchtech.COM  (Michael Almond)
			      97% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

  12    36    2182.4  0.4%   user@speech.KTH.SE  (User)
			      100% alt.binaries.sounds.misc

  13    21    2049.9  0.3%   lumpi@dobag.IN-BERLIN.DE  (Joern Lubkoll)
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

  14    72    2039.1  0.3%   jrs@netcom.COM  (John Switzer)
			      49% alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
			      49% alt.rush-limbaugh

  15     8    1787.7  0.3%   ylchoi@oak.MATH.UCLA.EDU  (Youlim Choi)
			      100% alt.binaries.pictures

  16    42    1772.7  0.3%   s1139422@giaec.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU  (A. Lawrence (THOMAS)
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.misc

  17  1529    1742.1  0.3%   ldm@wetterhorn.UCAR.EDU  (UNIDATA Local Data Mangement daemon)
			      100% ncar.weather

  18    11    1569.4  0.3%   pluck@andromeda.RUTGERS.EDU  (Thomas Pluck)
			      99% alt.binaries.sounds.misc

  19    33    1549.1  0.3%   drcf@colossus_guardian.COM
			      79% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
			      20% alt.sex.pictures

  20    65    1537.0  0.3%   awh1@cornell.EDU  ((Jobe)
			      98% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

  21    31    1293.0  0.2%   taz%momad@philabs.PHILIPS.COM
			      100% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

  22    22    1196.5  0.2%   roof@infoac  (RMI Operator)
			      100% alt.binaries.pictures

  23    25    1192.8  0.2%   faught@berserk.SSC.GOV  (Ed Faught)
			      99% alt.binaries.sounds.misc

  24    10    1187.4  0.2%   awilliam@qucis.QUEENSU.CA  (Majik)
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.misc

  25    32    1171.5  0.2%   sab121@psuvm.PSU.EDU
			      99% comp.binaries.apple2

Newsgroups: news.lists
From: newsstats@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Top 25 News Groups for the last 2 weeks
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:47:30 GMT

         No. of        $ Cost  % of  Cumulative
Rank  Kbytes Articles per Site Total  % of Total  Group (Articles/contributor)
   1 47389.8    1266    125.06  8.0%     8.0%     alt.binaries.pictures.erotica (3.1)
   2 30967.6     747     81.72  5.3%    13.3%     alt.binaries.pictures.misc (4.5)
   3 15953.5     344     42.10  2.7%    16.0%     alt.binaries.sounds.misc (4.1)
   4  9748.4    4269     25.72  1.7%    17.7%     talk.politics.misc (4.3)
   5  8580.7    3909     22.64  1.5%    19.1%     alt.politics.elections (4.1)
   6  8152.7     150     21.51  1.4%    20.5%     alt.binaries.pictures (3.9)
   7  7382.0    3602     19.48  1.3%    21.8%     alt.politics.clinton (4.4)
   8  7234.7     169     19.09  1.2%    23.0%     comp.binaries.os2 (1.0)
   9  6946.6     280     18.33  1.2%    24.2%     news.answers (1.0)
  10  6276.0    2883     16.56  1.1%    25.2%     alt.politics.bush (3.9)
  11  5417.7    1666     14.30  0.9%    26.1%     bionet.molbio.genbank.updates (1.0)
  12  4902.8    2667     12.94  0.8%    27.0%     talk.abortion (9.0)
  13  4576.7    2267     12.08  0.8%    27.8%     alt.politics.perot (4.4)
  14  4301.2    1050     11.35  0.7%    28.5%     alt.rush-limbaugh (3.3)
  15  4183.5     194     11.04  0.7%    29.2%     alt.binaries.pictures.utilities (2.1)
  16  4107.0     148     10.84  0.7%    29.9%     relcom.sources (2.7)
  17  3384.4     891      8.93  0.6%    30.5%     alt.fan.rush-limbaugh (3.0)
  18  3118.8    1414      8.23  0.5%    31.0%     talk.religion.misc (3.6)
  19  3093.3    1911      8.16  0.5%    31.5%     rec.arts.tv.soaps (4.4)
  20  3038.5     375      8.02  0.5%    32.0%     alt.sex.stories (1.6)
  21  2965.7    2042      7.83  0.5%    32.5%     soc.motss (4.1)
  22  2899.7      40      7.65  0.5%    33.0%     biz.sco.binaries (1.0)
  23  2808.1     104      7.41  0.5%    33.5%     alt.sex.pictures (2.9)
  24  2685.1    1492      7.09  0.5%    34.0%     soc.culture.indian (2.4)
  25  2635.2     476      6.95  0.4%    34.4%     misc.activism.progressive (1.0)

$ Cost is the cost of sending it over a Trailblazer to UUNET, using the 
800 number and Night rates. (1000 characters per second and $9.50 per hour)
I.e .264 cents per kilobyte
Xref: sparky news.lists:479 news.announce.newusers:192 news.answers:3863
From: amc@cics.wustl.edu (Adam M. Costello)
Subject: RFD: talk.philosophy.objectivism
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: wustl.edu
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:28:42 GMT

I propose the unmoderated group

talk.philosophy.objectivism

as a more appropriate forum for the discussions of Objectivism currently
going on in alt.politics.libertarian.  I understand that Objectivism has
also been discussed in the past in alt.individualism.

I am only just learning about Objectivism, and have a lot of questions.
There doesn't currently seem to be any appropriate newsgroup in which
to ask them.

AMC
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.announce
From: cjones@troi.dbaccess.com (Carl Jones)
Subject: RFD: rec.sport.soccer.referees
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: dbaccess.com
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:15:33 GMT

This is a request for the creation of a new news group.
The proposed name would be: rec.sport.soccer.referees
The group should not need to be moderated (rec.sport.soccer is not).
Its charter is to provide a forum for the discussion of
	1. new rules
	2. rule changes
	3. IBD's and interpretations
	4. actual field situations and how they might be handled
	5. exchange of information on training classes, instructional
	   material, organizational meetings, etc.
	6. other topics surely to be suggested by others

As a first time proposer of a news group, I do not know how
"automatic" any of the follow-up processes are and "who is in charge".
I suggest that people interested in this group also read:
	How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup ~ 150 (David C Lawrence)
in:
	 news.announce.newgroups
and be prepared to participate in what happens next!
-- 
Carl Jones
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.robotics,comp.realtime,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.wizards,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.misc,comp.os.os9,comp.lang.ada,comp.os.vxworks
From: John Gardiner Myers <jgm+@cmu.edu>
Subject: CFV: comp.mail.mime
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:54:59 GMT
To: info-metamail@thumper.bellcore.com
Reply-To: see-message-body@andrew.cmu.edu

[please crosspost to comp.mail.multi-media, comp.mail.misc, and
 info-metamail@thumper.bellcore.com.  I won't have access to mail this
 Saturday.]

This is a Call For Votes on creation of the unmoderated newsgroup
comp.mail.mime.  The charter of this newsgroup would be discussions
about MIME in general, and MIME implementations in particular.

To vote for creation of this group, send mail to
mime-yes+@andrew.cmu.edu.  To vote against creation of the group, send
mail to mime-no+@andrew.cmu.edu.  Votes not sent to one of these two
addresses will *NOT* be counted.  I will *NOT* count votes posted to a
newsgroup, sent to a mailing list, or sent to my personal mailbox.

The voting period will last until 23:59 UTC (GMT), 1 Dec 1992.  Votes
must be received on andrew.cmu.edu by the end date to be counted.

MIME, or Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions is a standard designed
to provide facilities to include multiple objects in a single message,
to represent body text in character sets other than US- ASCII, to
represent formatted multi-font text messages, to represent non-textual
material such as images and audio fragments, and generally to
facilitate later extensions defining new types of Internet mail for
use by cooperating mail agents.  It is described in RFC 1341.

The owner of the mailing list info-metamail@thumper.bellcore.com has
stated the intent to rename that list "info-mime", modify the charter
appropriately, and gateway it with comp.mail.mime.
-- 
_.John G. Myers		Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU
			LoseNet:  ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: MIKEY@perch.nosc.mil (Mike Pawka)
Subject: CFV: rec.music.reggae
Followup-To: poster
Organization: nosc.mil
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:57:30 GMT

Call For Votes

Proposed Newsgroup: rec.music.reggae

Type: Unmoderated

Charter: This newsgroup is intended for the discussion of the popular music form
         known as "reggae" which evolved from Jamaican popular music but has
	 become quite popular world-wide. This would include ska, rock-steady,
	 roots, dub, dj, and dancehall artists, new albums, concerts, ect.

The voting period will be active up to and including 8 December.

Mail all votes to MIKEY@PERCH.NOSC.MIL

If you have already voted, please vote again, as the previous CFV was invalid.
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.mud.admin,rec.games.mud.announce,rec.games.mud.diku,rec.games.mud.lp,rec.games.mud.misc,rec.games.mud.tiny
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: RFD: sci.solid-state.electronics
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:15:40 GMT

In observation of the guidelines for usenet group creation a request for
discussion on creation of sci.solid-state.electronics is being
cross posted to sci.electronics, sci.physics, and news.announce.newsgroups.
The name of this group is still open for discussion. Each field of this 
new proposed newsgroup name should be less than 15 characters long, a field 
is the combinations of words between two ".". Also, there should be no bogus 
character such as "&" in the field.

This new newsgroup, which is **not** to be moderated, is to focus on various
areas of microelectronics, solid states, semiconductors, semiconductor
devices, lithography, quantum electronics, semiconductor processing
(such as CVD, MBE, etc...), different IC technologies (such as VLSI,
ULSI, WSI, 3DI etc..) , digital, AF, RF, MMIC technologies, optical
components (such as LED, LCD, Lasers), optical fibers and ...

Please, post your support for creation of this newsgroup and any comments
you might have about this newsgroup to sci.electronics and/or sci.physics.

                     With highest regards,
                          Babak   Sehari.
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.co-evolution,alt.drugs,alt.astrology,alt.pagan,alt.psychoactives,alt.support.cancer,misc.fitness,misc.kids,rec.food.veg,sci.med,sci.skeptic
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: CFV: misc.news.east-europe.rferl moderated
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:55:47 GMT

This is a call for votes for the creation of the moderated newsgroup
misc.news.east-europe.rferl. The purpose with this group is gather the
RFL/RL daily report in one place. Today it is reposted to several
groups, regularly or irregularry, in part or in whole.

Today the report is available as a LISTSERV list which has around
1.500 subscribers. Below is the presentation for the mailing list:

* The RFE/RL Daily Report is a digest of the latest developments
* in the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.  It is published
* Monday through Friday (except German holidays) by the RFE/RL
* Research Institute (a division of Radio Free Europe/Radio
* Liberty Inc.) in Munich.  It averages roughly 30 Kbytes of
* material per day.

To avoid junk appearing in this group, the group would be moderated
rferl-daily-report-request@rferl.org which is stated as editor of
the LISTSERV list today. Indeed this is a trivial list to moderate, 
since nothing but the reports should appear in the newsgroup.

To vote, mail me at sommar@enea.se with a message clearly saying that
your voting YES or NO to misc.news.east-europe.rferl. I will try to
acknowledge all votes. Posted votes are discarded.

The vote will last from the day of appearance of this article through
December 9th.  I will repeat this call for votes once during the period.

-----

If you wish to subscribe to the mailing list directly, mail 
LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET. No subject, and the following body:

SUBSCRIBE RFERL-L Your Name
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se

Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.object,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.lisp.mcl,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.clos
From: meehan@src.dec.com (Jim Meehan)
Subject: RFD: comp.lang.dylan
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: digital
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:13:10 GMT

REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
----------------------

NAME:
	comp.lang.dylan

STATUS:
	unmoderated

CHARTER:
	For discussion of the Dylan language. The newsgroup would be
	gatewayed with the mailing list info-dylan@cambridge.apple.com.

COMMENTS:
Dylan(TM) is a new object-oriented language, described in a book
published by Apple Computer in April 1992.  Many people have expressed
interest in the language since then, and prototype implementations are
now appearing.

In September, Apple created four public mailing lists for discussions 
of Dylan; the one called info-dylan is used for discussing any and 
all aspects of the language.  In just over a month, the volume of 
mail on info-dylan has reached the point where a newsgroup would 
be more useful than a mailing list; indeed, some subscribers have 
already removed their names from the list because of the high volume.  
Apple will maintain a gateway with the mailing list so that current 
subcribers to info-dylan who lack newsgroup access will still be 
able to participate in the discussions. 

DISCUSSION:
Comments about this proposal should be sent to news.groups.

SCHEDULE:
The discussion period will end December 4, 1992.  If there is a consensus at 
that time, a Call For Votes will be posted.

[[ This is the first time this proposal has been "officially" brought up.
    We're sorry for any confusion a prior call for votes may have
    caused some people.  Jim did not realise his posting had not
    really gone to news.announce.newgroups because the group was
    not marked moderated at his site.  -- tale ]]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dsp,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.soft-sys.khoros,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.dec
From: Dave Hayes <dave@elxr.jpl.Nasa.Gov>
Subject: RFD: Should rec.music.makers.synth stand as a group name?
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA, Pasadena CA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:53:15 GMT

[[ I am strongly opposed, on administrative grounds, to conducting a
   binding poll as described below.  There is no precedence in USENET for
   such a vote, and the motive for doing it this way rather than using
   the accepted method of group renaming seems quite transparent to me.
   I will elaborate more on this and other personal objections
   in a separate posting to news.groups.                -- tale ]]


This is a request for discussion on letting rec.music.makers.synth stand
as a replacement for rec.music.synth. 

[*] Background

In the past, rec.music.synth has always been a group for informal discussion
about synthesizers and computer music. Recently, a newsgroup voting process
was held, a name change was proposed to "rec.music.makers.synth", and it
passed technically. 

Unfortunately, an unclear subject line and a >20 line article introduction
created the possiblity that many rec.music.synth posters missed the call for 
votes. Since the resulting flamewar has called much attention to this matter,
any vote should capture a more unbiased sample of the will of the net. 

Therefore, this RFD is the prelude to a vote on keeping the new name for the
group. The question the vote will ask is: "Should rec.music.makers.synth stand 
as a group name?". 

[*] Charter

The charter of this group will remain unchanged.

[*] Vote taker

As a clearly biased member of this discussion, I am asking for a volunteer
neutral vote taker to run the vote. It would be impossible for me to run
it as it stands now. 
-- 
Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA
dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov       dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov         ...usc!elroy!dxh

                 One only fights what one thinks is real.
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.drumcorps,alt.colorguard
X-Mail-Path: mcshh.Hanse.DE!uunet.uu.net!tale
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.mail.misc
Reply-To: see-message-body@andrew.cmu.edu
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
From: John Gardiner Myers <jgm+@cmu.edu>
X-To: info-metamail@thumper.bellcore.com
Subject: CFV: comp.mail.mime
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:51:29 -0500
X-Gateway: hactar.hanse.de to news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.mail.misc; Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:11:37 +0100

[please crosspost to comp.mail.multi-media, comp.mail.misc, and
 info-metamail@thumper.bellcore.com.  I won't have access to mail this
 Saturday.]

This is a Call For Votes on creation of the unmoderated newsgroup
comp.mail.mime.  The charter of this newsgroup would be discussions
about MIME in general, and MIME implementations in particular.

To vote for creation of this group, send mail to
mime-yes+@andrew.cmu.edu.  To vote against creation of the group, send
mail to mime-no+@andrew.cmu.edu.  Votes not sent to one of these two
addresses will *NOT* be counted.  I will *NOT* count votes posted to a
newsgroup, sent to a mailing list, or sent to my personal mailbox.

The voting period will last until 23:59 UTC (GMT), 1 Dec 1992.  Votes
must be received on andrew.cmu.edu by the end date to be counted.

MIME, or Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions is a standard designed
to provide facilities to include multiple objects in a single message,
to represent body text in character sets other than US- ASCII, to
represent formatted multi-font text messages, to represent non-textual
material such as images and audio fragments, and generally to
facilitate later extensions defining new types of Internet mail for
use by cooperating mail agents.  It is described in RFC 1341.

The owner of the mailing list info-metamail@thumper.bellcore.com has
stated the intent to rename that list "info-mime", modify the charter
appropriately, and gateway it with comp.mail.mime.
-- 
_.John G. Myers		Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU
			LoseNet:  ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.board,rec.games.frp.advocacy,rec.games.frp.misc,rec.games.misc,rec.arts.anime
From: adc@tardis.cl.msu.edu (Alan D. Cabrera)
Subject: RFD: rec.games.netrek reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:52:32 GMT

SUMMARY

This is the Request For Discussion regarding the proposal to split 
the newsgroup rec.games.netrek, containing discussion of the game 
netrek.

The proposed groups are .announce .inl .programmer and .d.

PROPOSAL

The following groups are proposed:

rec.games.netrek.announce (moderated)

Announcements of new software, documentation, FTP sites, etc.
Frequently Asked Questions lists may be cross-posted here.
Urgent notices of serious bugs and their (short) patches.

Moderated by Alan D. Cabrera (adc@tardis.cl.msu.edu). If anyone 
else is interested in assisting contact Alan.

rec.games.netrek.inl

Discussions directly related to the Intercollegiate Netrek 
League, INL.

rec.games.netrek.programmer (moderated)

Discussions related to the design, programming and management of 
netrek servers and clients.

Moderated by Alan D. Cabrera (adc@tardis.cl.msu.edu). If anyone 
else is interested in assisting contact Alan.

rec.games.netrek.d

Discussion about netrek which does not fall into any of the other 
netrek groups' categories. No articles should be cross-posted to 
r.g.n.d and any of those other groups.

NEWSGROUP CREATION

The discussion period will be from November 7th, 1992 to November 
30th, 1992. Please post all discussion in news.group. If a 
consensus is reached by the end of the discussion period, a CFV 
(Call For Votes) will be posted at that time. The voting period 
will last for 21 days.

Alan Cabrera              
-- 
Computer Laboratory                     phone:     (517) 353-3027
Michigan State University               fax:       (517) 353-9847
514 Computer Center                     bitnet:    CABRERA@MSU
East Lansing, MI 48824                  internet:  adc@tardis.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.engr.chem,sci.misc
From: metze@vmetze.mrl.uiuc.edu (Virginia Metze)
Subject: RFD: rec.equestrian.racing
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Materials Research Laboratory
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:51:45 GMT

Are there people who would be interested in a news group on horse
racing?

I would like it to cover all aspects of the sport, from wagering to
track/racing conditions.  It would be a place to follow news about
the sport, to learn more about it, and to express opinions.

As an example, topics like the following could be discussed:

	Information about upcoming races, and opinions on
	chances of horses in the race

	Should we have phone-in wagering?  

	How do we increase interest in wagering and racing?
	
	Racing conditions, covering such topics as
	track conditions, number of horses in race, track
	surfaces, condition of horses.

	Examination of Breeder's Cup and discussion of
	improving it, lowering accident rate, wagering
	availability and pools

	Horse lineage 

	general information about handicapping

	'where to go' for betting on races

	general information about various tracks in the
	country

	foreign horses racing here 


Virtually all aspects of racing would be covered; readers
would be expected to use subject line to avoid discussions they
are not interested in or annoyed by.
-- 
Virginia Metze, speaking for no one but herself  + Impeach the Rehnquist
metze@vmetze.mrl.uiuc.edu                        + 5, 6, or 7
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
VMS cluster managers:  do you know where your queue manager is right now?
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.consumers.house,sci.electronics