From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: celtic frost questions
Date: 9 Sep 92 06:45:09 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Sep6.193857.18177@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.143856.17610@kth.se> d90-two@negru.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>>>
>>>Celtic Frost:
>>>
>>>Morbid Tales <Mini-LP.> Still my favorite. 1985 (84?)
>>>Emperors Return <12"> 1986 (85?)
>>>To Mega Therion <album> 1986
>>Tradic Serenades <EP> 1986 (Three remixed/re-recorded songs)
>>>Into The Pandemonium <LP> 1987-88? (87)
>>>Cold Lake <LP> 1989 (Maybe 88?)
>>>Vanity/Nemesis <LP> 1990-91?
>>Parched With Thirst I Am And Dying <comp> 1992 (old goodies, unreleased things,
>>remixed/re-recorded stuff, and two new songs)
>>>
>>>"Vanity/Nemesis" is supposedly a return to the "Morbid Tales" lineup, and
>>>style, but I have never seen a copy. 

	The lineup for "Vanity/Nemesis" consists of Warrior, Ain, Priestly
(who was not a member of CF for "Morbid Tales" though he played drums
on the album) and Curt Victor Bryant.  Ron Marks (who was a member of
the band one time) plays guitar on a few tracks.  The style is similar
to traditional CF (i.e. not "Cold Lake") -- it's a good album, but
not quite their best ...

>>Most people seems to like MT, ER and TMT. MT and ER are available on one CD
>>nowadays, I'm not sure if there are more songs on it than on the original
>>EP's. A track listing, someone? (Of the EP's. I have the CD)

	Personally I think "Into The Pandemonium" is their best effort.
Sure, it had the first weak cuts like "I Can't Dance" and "Mexican
Radio", but it also had some of their best songs too.  I'd rate
"Morbid Tales" next, then "Vanity", then "Therion", and then (very
far behind, of course) "Cold Lake"(.

>>"Into The Pandemonium" commercial??? It's almost too weird even for me...

	I wouldn't call it commercial at all save the two tracks I just
mentioned.  It was definitely experimental, and weird -- but just
heavy enough and with just enough of the earlier CF trademarks to 
make it great ...

>>There are 3 tracks (of 14) from "Cold Lake" on the compilation, and...
>>I like both "Juices Like Wine" and "Cherry Orchards"! Is there something
>>wrong with me or are these songs the only two listenable?

	I found myself liking all three "Cold Lake" tracks from 
"Parched ..." -- enough so that I really should go back and listen to
the rest of "CL" again.  Mind you, these new versions have been remixed
and re-recorded ...

>As for "Cold Lake", I think it is pretty ridiculous, and all the songs are
>disappointing. I find "Cherry Orchards" pretty funny, though. What is the
>track listing for the Compilation album, and where were the songs Drawn from?

	(grouped by source, not in order)

	Idols Of Chagrin / Under Apollyon's Sun

		(completely new tracks.  The first is poor, the second very
		 good)

	Juices Like Wine / Cherry Orchards / Downtown Hanoi

		(re-recorded, from "Cold Lake")

	Wings Of Solitude / The Name Of My Bride / The Heart Beneath

		(straight from "Vanity".  Not the best tracks from that album,
		 but not bad)

	Circle Of The Tyrants (straight from "IMT")
	The Usurper (straight from "Tragic Serenades")
	Return To The Eve (unreleased version)
	Mexican Radio (1991 studio version)
	A Descent To Babylon (EP B-side from the "Vanity" sessions)
	The Inevitable Factor (unreleased -- 1987)
	Journey Into Fear (unreleased -- 1985)
	In The Chapel In The Moonlight (rare EP track)
	I Won't Dance ("radio edit")
	Tristesses De La Lune (left over from the "Pandemonium" sessions)
	

	Hope this helps ...

					Brian
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Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
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