HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Brian.Jarvinen@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Deadicated Einsturzende Neubauten
Reply-To: Brian.Jarvinen@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:51:22 GMT

Someone, I think in that great post about an all metal Deadicated,
suggested Einsturzende Neubauten. They've already kinda sorta covered
a Dead song "Morning Dew", which isn't a Dead original of course. I've
heard it on the local campus station, but if anyone could tell me the
name of the album it's on I'd grately appreciate it. It was an excellent
version of the song, the most ominous version of a very ominous song.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: S0SKAG01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
Subject: What is overpricing?
Reply-To: S0SKAG01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:28:34 GMT



A few folks who've picked up on my Lithuanian shirt question have missed the
deeper point - the real reason for the original post. Hey, I'm sorry if I'm
seeming cynical here, but if help to the Lithuanians is being put up as an
example of what the Dead 'stand for' (i.e. a social conscience) and if these
shirts are being marketed with the notion that "a portion of the proceeds
go to the Lithuanian basketball team", then it seems natural to ask the
next question, "what percentage?".

There could be many reasons for prices that are steep...limited quantities,
a lot of labor in the making, expensive raw materials, charge what the market
will bear, charge what everyone else in the market charges, maximize profits,
etc...Longstanding capitalist practices to be sure. But a few of these
practices seem to be a bit at odds with what some folks tend to think of as
Grateful Dead cultural values.

Nothing really wrong with any of this, mind you, but an interesting scrape
of perceptions.

S.S.
From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dennis McNally, 8/27/72
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:11:55 GMT
Reply-To: tnf@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Internet


 
| From: ADJS000 <ADJS@nmumus.bitnet>
| Subject: GD HOUR #206
| 
| I noticed that one segment of this show is set aside for an interview
| with Dennis McNally. Is this the author of one of the Kerouac
| biographies, and if so, is that his only connection with GD family?  Is
| he working/has he worked on other projects as well? Hello?  Jim Stedman

Yes, this is the Dennis McNally who wrote _Desolate Angel_, an excellent
biography of Jack Kerouac.  He signed on as the "official biographer" of
the Dead in the early '80s and in 1984 or so was dragooned into serving as
the band's publicist.  So now he's the spokesman for the Dead when stuff
happens that requires a public face.

The interviews with McNally and Bob Weir are "phoners" from my local radio
show (KPFA in Berkeley), talking about Jerry Garcia's health and the Dead's
plans and stuff.  I posted the transcript of the Weir interview on the net
a couple of weeks ago.
 
| Subject: Re: GDH #205 - 8/27/72 :-)
| From: jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu
| 
| If you have not heard this 8/27/72 show, and have an opportunity to tape
| David's program, DO SO ! The Playin In The Band & Greatest Story Ever Told
| feature Jerry Garcia playing guitar as one posessed :) Personally, I'm very
| excited to have a copy of this from whatever David's sources are, though my
| tapes are ok, this is sure to be an upgrade quality wise !

This is a "new" 2-track master recorded by the guys who were making a movie
of that gig.  Not a perfect tape, but cleaner than the ones that were in
circulation before I found this one.
From: Mercury@cup.portal.com (Bill - Hess)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Ride to Electric off the Eel-No dead content
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:29:47 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca

Howdy everyone,
 I am looking for a ride from the Bay area to the Electric off the Eel show in 
Mendocino Co. I can leave from the No. Bay Area, and I live off I-80. Please 
email me if you have a spare seat for me. :-) I can drive, and pitch in for gas
 and stuff. Thanx,
 
                                     Merc!
From: alexsut@panix.com (Alex Sutton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Merl Saunders/Deadicated
Date: 30 Aug 92 17:49:16 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Aug30.081941.29255@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> jko@bonnie.ics.uci.edu writes:


>I was listening to the version of "Sugaree" on the live Merl
>Saunders and the Rainforest band compact disc, and thought that
>if this tune was put on the Deadicated album, many including
>myself would think that this is the best tune on the album.
>By the standards discussed on this forum, this version definately
>cooks performance wise (it's live!), and is quite original, giving
>the song a much jazzier feel to it.

I remember Merl saying the night at Wetlands that the song was recorded
for the album that "they" (the producers) wouldn't let him do the Sugaree
for Deadicated.  Too wild or something.

BTW, he did an excellent version this past Friday at Wetlands.
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Kesey's New Book in the Media
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:41:18 GMT
Organization: Gail's Hurricane Palace

Haven't seen this mentioned yet.  Our paper reprinted this Kesey
quote from an Esquire article on Kesey's new novel _Sailor_Song_:

	"I see it almost like a comic book--really broad lines
	sometimes show more truth than really finely nuanced
	lines. ... You have to deal with the audience where it
	is, not where it ought to be.  I'm writing for the MTV
	audience-you have to have quick cuts, brightly colored
	shots, to hold them."

The NY Times Book Review didn't give the book such a hot review this
Sunday.  But hey, what do they know!  They recently panned my very
favorite new mystery in many a moon.  Jealous cuz they can't write
like that, they are!

Hey how about ejs's great Kesey Swamp Romp story!  Curious minds
must know, were there kangaroos at the kangaroo crossing, Eric?

Gail
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Steely Dan and the Dead
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:05:07 GMT

It's interesting how a number of Deadheads also are Steely Dan fanatics.
Steely Dan artciles show up here relatively frequently, although I'm 
sure in less laid back newsgroups us Dan heads would get flamed (thanks
to all you hospital folks  we don't!).  While the Dan have been pretty-much 
a Studio-only group, the exact opposite of the Dead, I think what is apealing
about both groups is their fusion of Jazz, blues and other styles as well
as the fact that both approach their music with a sense of craftsmanship.

For all you Dan Dead heads, I have posted an interview with Donal Fagen,
a review of Dan albums and a review of a recent NY Rock & Soul Revue
concert (featuring Fagen & Beccker) in rec.music.misc.
From: wafcdc@igc.apc.org (Western Ancient Forest Campaign)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: I had a Dream Last Night...
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:56:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1456400087:000:785
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!wafcdc    Aug 28 08:56:00 1992


I had a dream last night that there will be an all-day, all-night
concert on the mall featuring, Santana, the Allmans and of course
the Grateful Dead, ON the 4th of July, On the Mall in Washington
D.C.

Dreams can become reality when we all try to make it happen.

The day after Bill Clinton is elected President, Please write the
President-elect and the Vice President (Al and Tipper are big fans
of the Dead and the Allmans), and urge them to invite these bands
to play at a truly fabulous Fourth of July celebration that will
signal a new era of freedom in this country.  Call the White House
comment line at 202-456-1111 everyday until the invites are sent.

Will the band play? I hope so, what do you think? Can we do it? Is
this a dream or a deranged fantasy? Comments please...
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "Ken, CIM Systems Engineering/Database Technologies  25-Aug-1992 1428" <hannan@gnpike.enet.dec.com>
Subject: deadicated II by the dead
Reply-To: hannan@gnpike.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:48:45 GMT

Hmmmm, I flashed on Jimi Hendrix doing Victim Or the Crime.
Man, that would be something I bet.  Can you imagine that ?
I can...
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: lw24lag@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (peter lavallee)
Subject: The Rads (was: Re: HEY NORMA!!)
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-26654]: rs1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:26:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.032908.28159@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> SCHUBERT%MIDD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu writes:
>anyway, with a spirit of joy and healing. We'll see. A hear a little
>band called the Radiators is in the area? Well, anyway, thanks for
>the inspiration AND the perspiration. Nice world-good people.
>


Here in Andrew-ravaged land (New Orleans), we just caught the Rads
Friday night at Tipitina's.  They were smokin', which was a pleasant
surprise, as I was unimpressed with their last performance at that
venue.
	
Although they also played Saturday night, we opted for local heroes
Smilin' Myron -- check them out, when they come to your town!  They
recently played up north, includin Vermont and Conn.         

ODC: Get well soon!!!!

pjl
--
Peter J. Lavallee		: "Live free or die."
lw24lag@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu	:          -- Major Gen. John Stark
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Subject: <None>
From: jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 1 Sep 92 07:56:22 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University


> 
> David Gans has done this, at least for Bay Area consumption, on his
> radio show on KPFA, he & co. have done a couple rounds of Dead Roots
> including most of the songs you mentioned (tho I don't think he's
> yet gotten to the original Samson & Delilah & Death Don't from
> Blind Willie Johnson).

But he has played the Samson & Delilah by Rev Gary Davis and it is GREAT !

How about an album of tunes with the same name as Dead tunes, but entirely
different tunes, e.g. Clapton's Let It Grow, Willie Nelson's (I think) On The
Road Again, any others ? 

And how about if it was The Dead performing them ! 

Jim
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tsl@eng.umd.edu (Tom Livingston)
Subject: Re:  Deadheads
Summary: _Everyone_ needs to relax...
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:34:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.035335.10772@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.003715.21885@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>>quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>>|was "under 30", but that was nearly 10 years ago.
>>
>>You have just proved that you are under 20.
>>
>Your logic completely escapes me, especially because your conclusion is
>wrong. What is with you and Todd anyway? Did somebody personally assign
>the two of you as guard-chihuahuas of the newsgroup? Everytime I post
>*anything* to the group I get these bizzarre non-sequitors immediately
>in response from one or both of you. 
>God, I *wish* I were under 20 again and you make it sound like a crime.
>Lighten up....
>bruce
>
	After reading all of the smoking crap I didn't think I'd ever 
agree with Bruce...  But he's right Steve.  Are you _trying_ to keep
all of the flame wars going?  Methinks you're getting a little post happy.

Relax, Steve, it only gets better with time...

Tom Livingston					tsl@src.umd.edu


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Ken Schumacher <odetics!venus!ken@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: Go Ahead
Reply-To: odetics!venus!ken@uunet.uu.net
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:04:14 GMT

andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com writes:

|Has Phil played with anyone outside of The Dead besides 
|David Bromberg? Has he ever done any "tours" with anyone 
|else?

|Also, does anyone remember an off-shoot band with Brent 
|and Billy from around circa 1983 that did a few shows on 
|the east coast?  (For some reason the name "Go Ahead" 
|sticks out in my mind.  Is that correct?)

I saw a Go Ahead concert here in Southern California several 
years ago and it was fantastic!  They played at the Celebrity 
Theatre in Anaheim, a small theater in the round. The band 
featured Bob Weir on guitar and vocals.  Unfortunately my 
memory is appallingly bad, and I can't recall the rest of the 
band's line up.  I do remember that other GD members were 
present, perhaps Bill Kreutzman?  Phil Lesh?  Brent Mydland? 
I would love to hear from anybody who may know the lineup, 
(and any available concert tapes, too.) 

One thing I DO remember is it seemed like they just decided 
to play all their favorite old rock and roll songs.  And they 
also did one 90 degree swerve from right in the middle of a 
song out to the far reaches of space.  WOW!  I found it hard 
to understand all the "cheezy" references to Weir, because 
that evening's music was anything but. The encore was also 
memorable. They played Good Lovin, Not Fade Away, and La Bamba, 
alternating the lyrics of each song in turn. It worked 
beautifully (all use the "Bo Diddly beat").

Anyone with a better memory than me in attendance at that
concert, or other venues in that "tour"? Tapes? Other info?

|---------------------|                                    |
|   ken@odetics.com   |    "...let the words be yours,     |
|   (Ken Schumacher)  |         I'm done with mine."       |
|---------------------|                                    |

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: Garcia Sighting on NPR (Hearing, Actually)
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:26:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.222802.23668@morrow.stanford.edu>,
EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>
>
>Regarding purchasing the Giants.  Perhaps Jerry has better places to
>put his money/time, like all the worthy organizations to which the
>dead donate concert revenues and other money.  The guy who's
>currently trying (i believe, virginia) to purchase the giants had to
>put down $30 in cash, plus $30 financing.  I know that the boyz have
>done well over the years, but I'm guessing that this pricetag may be
>a little out of their ballpark, if you well.
>
>tell you what's weird, tho'.  here in the bay area (sunnyvale=home,
>stanford=work), the safeways all have tin cans sitting at the
>checkout stands to contribute to the Giants.  Now perhaps I'm just
>some bleeding heart liberal, but why aren't we seeing cans for
>victims of Andrew in Miami and Louisiana.  WHERE ARE OUR
>PRIORITIES???
>
>lara
>
OOOOOps, that's $30 mil, both places.
lara
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tomw@astro.umd.edu
Subject: gdhr suggestion
Reply-To: tomw@astro.umd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:18:51 GMT

great set of alternate covers in gdhr#203, mr. gans:-) i got a request
for something completely different: dylan's corina corina, from real
early...
c u
tom wible, formerly the air drummer;-)

internet: tomw@astro.umd.edu
ip address: 128.8.251.57
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: nsax.uoregon (Norma Sax)
Subject: To Boulder Netheads
Organization: university of oregon
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:10:11 GMT

i don't know who this goes to exactly but i'm sure you'll recognize yourselves. a 
friendof mine, jeff harrison, told me he met some people from boulder who had
come here last week in spte of the dead show being canceeled. these folks,
when they found out he worked at the oregon country fair, asked him
if they knew me. he said, "how do you know norma if you just got in from
boulder?", and they said they felt like they knew from reading my posts
on rec.music.gdead!! 

wow. i felt almost famous!!!!

thanks a lot you netheads from boulder. maybe someday i'll meet
you in person. did you enjoy oregon? if so, please come back.

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: Lazy Lightning
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:55:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.214558.16130@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall) writes:
[[a bunch of deleted crapola]]
>BTW- us old farts call Steve Reno :-)
are you telling me he has a split personality?  More split than
tindall/eagle whoever? are we talking about the same steve?

>touring-  How many shows did you make this year anyway?
only two: been busy raising my kids and starting a business to
direct money to the Native American Rights Fund in Boulder.

>the hell would you know if I'm an irresponsible fucker or not?
eagles sure can screech, can't they?  always thought it was a
beautiful, breathtaking, liberated sound, but gotta revise that
opinion at least in this case.

you know, it was much too easy to jerk your chain.  i expected a
much higher level of argument: disappointed again.

>I think you started Wyoming bashing to overcompensate for your
>deep seated feelings of inadequacy.
are you talking to yourself: mental masturbation perhaps?

i bet we might agree on some of the native issues if you didn't have
a need to pick meat off (living) bones - at least you're not a
vulture, but i doubt if you have the legendary sight of an eagle.

I came to dislike gillette because: the wind blows constantly
(possibly downwind from your veggie burrito consumption); the local
pigs had to go to the whorehouse three nights in a row to be sure
that they could really bust it; they teach small children to narc on
their parents and attempt to destroy families.  I moved there
because I thought it would be a good place to raise a family.  But
when they almost killed my second daughter at birth because of petty
infighting at the hospital -- she spent 5 weeks in intensive care at
Denver Children's -- can't imagine why i would think it less than
XANADU.

>"Well Sparky, everytime I saw God, God did all the talking!"
i find that kinda difficult to swallow.  but if so, were you
listening or just preparing a rebuttal?

>                                eagle
>                         rebel@ outlaw.uwyo.edu

adequately yours,
lara
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Deadicated II
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:55:46 GMT
Organization: Honest Ernie's Used Ions
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

* Johnny Cash, previously disparaged in this context, doing
  "Looks Like Rain."

* Warren Zevon reappearing with "Me and my Uncle," a Dead
  song that feels like one of his own.

* Thomas Dolby on "Drums->Space."

So when if ever is there going to be a "Vault" album of the
Dead's opening acts?  Some genuine heavyweights have shared
the bill with them here and there and yonder... Do the tapes
exist?  Could the law dogs be brought to heel?  

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: barnes@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Joshua Edward Barnes)
Subject: Dead Citing
Summary: Dead tech gets higher!
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:12:19 GMT


    The Spring, 1992 issue of _IRIS Universe_ (number 20) mentions the
Grateful Dead, along with D'Cuckoo and Todd Rundgren, in an article on
musical groups using graphics workstations.  _IRIS Universe_ is a
trade magazine published by Silicon Graphics, Inc.  The article
mentioning the Dead is titled "Virtual Performers" and was written by
Richard Kerris.  The following excerpt is, as usual, quoted without
permission:


    "Another local Bay Area Band beginning to use Silicon Graphics'
    technology is the Grateful Dead.  Candace Brightman, the band's
    lighting director, has been experimenting with stage and lighting
    design using an IRIS Indigo with AutoCad, RenderManager, and
    Creative License.  The goal is to provide a virtual environment of
    an arena, or some other large venue in which the band regularly
    performs, and allow for the placement of lights, screens, and
    stage props via the application.  This would provide considerable
    cost savings for the band who usually must rent out empty halls to
    test lighting rigs and stage design.

    "The Grateful Dead is currently supported by a production crew
    well versed in computer technology.  The band is already using
    MIDI with their instruments for their live performances, as well
    as a computerized light and video system.  The Grateful Dead is
    interested in the possibility of bringing all of the production
    elements of the band into a system that can be used to visualize
    the band's stage design; produce graphics for programs, T-shirts,
    and other products; act as a real-time triggering device during
    the performance (triggering video clips, animations, etc.); and
    digitally mix the audio and video of the performance itself."


    On the next page is a sidebar on D'Cuckoo which mentions the MIDI
Ball used when D'Cuckoo opened for the Dead last New Year's.  It sez:
"That evening, the MIDI Ball repertoire included seventy-two audio
samples, some with vocal harmonies from the Grateful Dead themselves.
At one point during D'Cuckoo's opening act performance, the MIDI Ball
was struck and released the familiar sound of the headline act,
sending the audience into a frenzy."

    A frenzy, indeed; I remember it well.  And I'm glad to see Candace
Brightman getting some press as a creative member of the Dead -- IMHO
she's the unsung genius of the group, seen but never heard from.

					Cheers,

						Josh Barnes

					barnes@zeno.ifa.hawaii.edu

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: I'm a generally satisfied customer of Silicon Graphics,
Inc., but have no other connection to their organization.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
Subject: Re: TDK bashing
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:04:09 GMT

glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert) writes:

>In article <1992Sep1.131257.16891@riacs.edu> howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:
>>Hmmm. Interesting to see the TDK bashing going on because my experience
>>with many different brands of tapes (extensive, I think) has led me to
>>the conclusion that TDK SA-X is the best tape I've ever used - bar
>>none.  I have *never* *never* had a TDK tape fuck up, but have had a
>>(small) number of Maxell XL tapes get chewed, eaten, whatever - but
>>this was a fault of the deck I was using at the time. Thing is, my
>>faulty deck didn't chew any of my TDKs! Very sturdy mechanism, plus
>>superior sound overall. Also, as a testament to the durability of TDKs,
>>I have tapes that are 20 years old and they play just as fine today as
>>they did then.  Certainly can't say that about all the Scotch and
>>Memorex tapes I wasted money on. All of those have long since turned to
>>trash. And, yes my old Maxell tapes play just fine too. Both TDK and
>>Maxell make fine tapes. I just give the slight edge to TDK.  Where I
>>live, TDKs sell for the same price as Maxells, so that's no
>>consideration to my preference for TDKs.
>>
>What he said...

>George Lambert
Ditto. The SAX is an excellent tape. I think the XLII is a pretty flimsy
piece of *&#% compatred to the XLII-S though.

Mark C.

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: Sites with lyrics for songs other than (GASP!) the GD
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:15:26 GMT

|The subject says it all, almost wher can I find a server that has lyrics for
|groups other than the GD???

Try cs.uwp.edu (131.210.1.4), under pub/music/lyrics.

|eg. Chili Peppers..

/pub/music/lyrics/files/red.hot.chili.peppers

-Jeff Lester
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re:  Three days and counting...
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:23:34 GMT

les@brahms.udel.edu (Matthew Re Templeton) writes:

|Peace, and a big welcome to all those freshmen (freshpersons??) who 
|unwittingly happened across the "rn" command when checking out their
|shiny new computer accounts...:-)

just where do you have to put the RN card in the JCL deck to
get it to print out Dead-Flames?

Steve-TOO

"old and in the way that's what they say..."