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From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Subject: Re: wood burning stoves
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:06:22 GMT

In article <BrtHyB.IwI@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, madenner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mark andrew denner) writes:
> 	Has anyone ever had any experience with portable wood burning
> cooking stoves? 

I shared a campsite one night with a fellow who had one.  It boiled water
about as fast as the Svea I was using, and made for an interesting
conversation piece.  It soots pots pretty bad, though.

> there's one for sale in a recent Campmor catalogue,
> described as able to burn twigs, pinecones or charcoal and boil a pint
> of water in four minutes.  this sounds rather nice, especially since i
> don't have to bring any fuel and the wood burner sounds a bit more
> ecological

It does make maximum use of a small amount of wood to get your cooking
done.  It probably depends on the individual ranger as to whether it
counts as an open wood fire in areas that prohibit them.  The guy I
saw with one carried a small bundle of twigs and a few charcoal 
briquettes just in case.

> and certainly better smelling.  It weighs about a pound,
> which i can live with, and costs about $35, which I can afford.  It for
> some reason calls for two AA batteries, which i can't fathom.  

They're for a fan to force air through the combustion chamber.  That's
why it can generate a useful amount of heat from a small amount of wood.
It's not as klugy as it sounds.

> Still, it
> sounds too good to be true.  has anyone ever used one?  

Noted author Colin Fletcher found it kind of nifty, and he's notoriously
picky about which stoves he establishes a personal relationship with.


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John Reece		|	"Why would anyone want to tear down
Not an Intel spokesman  |        this beautiful dam?"  
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Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: ahall@fmrco.com (Andrew Hall)
Subject: Blueberries in the Boston Area
Organization: Fidelity Management & Research Co.
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:11:14 GMT

Does anyone know of a good blueberry (preferably highbush)
patch within an hour or so of Boston?

I know several great sites in Harriman State park in NY
but that is a bit far since we moved up here.

E-mail responses OK.

Thanks,
ah
From: hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal Lillywhite)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Backcountry Improvisations (Was: Swiss Army Knife)
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:24:52 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

In article <1992Jul21.041545.3997@fivegl.co.nz> derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
 
>Tirfor make very good manual winches.  These are so much more veratile than
>the macho electric ones you see on Urban Safari Trucks(tm). 

>As well as achieving the desired task of recovering vehicles from muddy
>ditches you can use it...

But use it with *care*.  I haven't seen this particular brand of
hand winch but all I have seen have no shear pins or other safety
devices.  This means that a strong person might overtighten and break
the cable.  This can be a particular problem if you hook your winch
to a separate cable to extend the reach.  Cable is elastic and stores 
a lot of energy as it stretches.  When it breaks that energy quickly 
goes into moving the cable.  The results can be spectacular and deadly.  
You get a monster steel cable bullwhip!  Most of us know what
happens if we stretch a rubber band until it breaks.  Imagine that
rubber band being much longer and stronger and you get an idea of
what a cable can do.
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry

> I use sno-seal which seems to work really well.

Ditto.  I use a hair dryer to help melt it so it soaks in to new boots
before wearing them the first time.

> My bigger question is what do you use to seal the welt of your boots?

I rub silicone cement into them before sno-sealing them, again, before
the first wearing.  I think this keeps both dirt and moisture out of the
stitching.

> ...my mid-sole had come unglued?

I've had that happen a couple of times, usually when the boot was worn
in continuing wet conditions and stayed wet.

> ...how long do most peoples heavy hiking boots last?

I buy cheap boots, like $30 at PayLess, about once per year or less
(depending on how much hiking I do).  I find the cheap boots fit me
pretty well, so there's no reason to buy more expensive ones for
comfort.  Almost always the wear-out mode is the lugs being worn off the
bottom, to a nearly flat surface (with loss of grip).  With more
expensive boots I'd replace the soles, but why bother?
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Chevron - People Do?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 16:43:54 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul31.010714.694@ultra.com> marc@mercutio.ultra.com
(Marc Kwiatkowski {Host Software-AIX}) writes:
>As a Nature Conservancy
>member I learned that Chevron is a big contributor to that organization.

A good point.  During the 60s, one of the Sierra Club's Board members
was a UC prof. and consultant to Standard in Richmond.  He was single
handedly the main reason why the Club would not come out in support of
Rachel Carson and her stand on DDT.  So only recently have organizations
make a hoot about their members and their contributers as they should not.

McCarthy in the *.environment groups doesn't mention the third party
involvement of this fellow in his DDT arguments.  I am content to sit back
and watch him cut into the posters of that group.

>Probably on that basis alone, Chevron can get away with the advertisement
>campaign described above.  Are members of Chevron's staff actively 
>involved in the protection of various endangered environments?  Probably not.

I believe we haev resolved this question.

>Does Chevron cut deals like, "Let us drill here and we'll buy 
>those wetlands there and give them to the Nature Conservancy".  Probably.
>
>So, in a perfectly honest world the tag line of these advertisements should
>be restated as
>
>"Do people make big donations to environmental organizations?  When
>local regulations or public relations it makes good business sense to do so....
> 	People do"

Deals, might be too 'harsh' a word.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Second Favorite email message: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days
A Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Cairns, Flags, and Fixed Wands
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:44:59 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul28.204957.16879@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> mpb@troy.uucp (22161-bunz) writes:
|
|My guess is that the people that adopt a highway are looking for
|CHEAP advertising.  They get their name in the publics eye and
|all they have to do is walk a few miles of road and pick up the
|litter once a month or so. 

For some reason this thread reminds me of a thread over in soc.singles that
was talking about college fraternaties.  The "frat boy" mentality was being
questioned and this guy was defending fraternaties by talking about all the
community service programs that frats get involved in.  Rebuttals included
that the frats don't really care about the community but are almost required
to perform a community service just to stay accredited.  Is Chevron just 
putting their name on a roadside "Litter Cleaned up by Alpha Beta" sign?  I'm
not so sure.

On poster hit the nail on the head when they noted that Chevron wasn't an
entity but rather a group of people.  Isn't that what the commercial tells us.
"People Do".  Instilling a environmental mindset isn't something that happens
overnight.  The company I am working for is going through quality training.
The training will result (hopefully) in a quality mindset.  Chevron is claiming
that it is more environmentally correct than any other company.  If the people
that they are hiring more environmentally conscience or they are attempting
to instill that mindset than they've got a plus vote in my book.  That 
quality is hard to measure.  So far a couple people have posted examples of
things they have done and so far a couple people have posted that "it's just
a bunch of BS".  Sure, it's PR but some companies really do put community
relations high on their list of company goals.  

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.climbing
From: allen%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Allen Sanderson)
Subject: Re: Four season tent recomendations.
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:56:41 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa

unger@mitem.com (Tom Unger) is shopping for a four season tent.

>Sierra Designs Stretch Dome with Expedition fly, 8lbs, 13oz, huge double
>hoop vestibule.
>
>    I used this on a winter trip and liked it.  Has the largest
>    vestibule of any.

I own one of these babies and really like it.  I have an early model
which I made several modifications to. (At my suggestion, Sierra
Designs latter incorporated several of my changing into the vestibule
so if you do not like it you can blame me).  Anyway, my tent has been
to Alaska and sleeps three very comfortably (Not the case with a NF
VE-24/25).  Although the tent tips the scale at almost 9 pounds it is
well worth its weight.  The floor plan is very well done (an octagon
has more usable space than a hexagon which is found in the NF VE-25
and Wild Country Quasar).  You do not need to use both poles in the
vestibule.

You might also look at the Bibler Tents.  They are very specialized
tents and are expensive.  However, they are very light and will fit 2-3
people.  I own an Eldo (4 lbs 2-people).

Allen R. Sanderson

Salt Lake City, Oootah


"Pucky lads, a wee bit over their heads"

	Doug Scott after encountering two climbers
	on Denali suffering from exposure.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
From: gvb@TEFS1.acd.com (George Bowles)
Subject: Packet System For Sale
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:48:04 GMT

Are you interested in getting into packet radio? I have the perfect 1200
baud setup for you. This setup is a plug'n go system. Includes:

IBM XT Compatible PC 
	640K System RAM
        1 Meg Extended RAM
	2 360k Floppies
	Automatic internal clock/calendar
	Monochrome Monitor
	20 Megabytes of hard disk storage
	Keyboard
Drake TR22-C Radio
	12 Channel 
	Crystal Controlled
	1.5 Watts RF output
	Easily Modified for 9600 baud operation
	145.01, 146.52 crystals included
MFJ 1270B TNC
	1200 baud
	Expandable to 9600 baud
        New in box with warranty

Software includes entire TAPR Library (Approx 12 megs of compressed data),
all cables and connectors. After I ship it, you plug it in, hook up the 
antenna and connect. No fuss, no mess just ax.25 packet with out a hassle. 

Price: $800.00 For the package you pay shipping.
(I will not split items)

Reason for selling: I have 6 TNCs, 7 Computers and about 8 radios in my 
basement. Take a guess.


Reply via Email:

gvb@acd4.acd.com

George, N9LKG




Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
From: lvy@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (rafael.a.ihly)
Subject: For Sale
Keywords: Supply, 2M beams, rotor, telescopic, Tribander
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:52:07 GMT

The following are for sale:

		1.) Astron 28 VDC supply, 18 Amps ICS, Rack Mount, 
		    almost new. Asking $180.

		2.) 2 eleven element 2M yagis w/phasing harness and 
		    mounting hardware. Vertical or Horizontal. $80.

		3.) TV rotor $20.

		4.) 50 foot telescopic mast $20.

		5.) TH6DXX Triband Yagi (20-15-10 Meters) 6 elem. 
		    asking $225.



	If interested, please respond via E-mail to whamg.att.com!ray



					Ray Ihly

				        (WA2LVY)
From: lockwood@acidqueen.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Lockwood)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: heathkit for sale
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:21:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: acidqueen.eng.sun.com

In article <14610039@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> pazar@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Steve Pazar) writes:
>John,
>  Just as a point of calibration, I've seen more than one HW-101 sell
>  at hamfests for about $100 in decent condition. I think your friend
>  has his expectations set a bit too high. Anyone in other parts of the
>  country able to confirm this???
>

I paid $150 for a 101 + mike + AC supply + original manual + some spare
tubes.  For this amount I got a unit that has worked flawlessly.  So,
yes, I think $250 is on the high side also.


73,

Jim Lockwood - KM6NK
notjim@acidqueen.eng.sun.com
From: wiemert@tara.esd.sgi.com (Christopher Wiemert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: RADIOS FOR SALE
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:49:59 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


 (1)  Nakamichi AM/FM Stereo Clock Radio  TM-1 & TM-2 (Stereo companion)

  - Digital Quartz PLL tuning, 4 FM, 4 AM presets
  - Bi-directional time setting, dual alarm, battery backup
  - Seperate Bass, Treble, Balance controls, dials (no sliders!)
  - AM/FM External Antenna Connections, Stereo/mono switch
  - Automatic Loudness adjustment for listening at low levels
  - Stereo Headphone Jack, Ramp-up alarm volume, radio or buzzer alarm
  - 6 minute snooze button, 60 minute or less adjustable sleep timer
  - Light sensor automatically adjusts display to room lighting
  - Excellent audio quality and good sensitivity for a clock radio

    TM-2 Stereo Companion Speaker is a seperate unit that matches the TM-1
    Both units are black in color and look good.

  - The TM-2 is required for Stereo sound.
  - TM-2 connects to the main unit with 18 ft. of cable
  - TM-2 has seperate clock/alarm display which can be turned off
    The Ultimate Clock Radio!

    These units have been used very little and have been in storage in
    my basement. I use my Sangean ATS-803A shortwave receiver at bedside
    these days.!

    Receipt, original boxes, maunual, etc.  MINT! 
    the TM-1 retails for $139.00, the TM-2 companion for $89.00

    ASKING $125.00 for both units. + shipping (insured)
    selling as a set only.


(2)   GE SUPER RADIO II

   - Long range analog portable, AC/DC, excellent audio and good sensitivity
   - Seperate Bass and Treble dial controls. seperate on/off. Headphone jack
   - Mono only, external antenna connections. uses 6 D cells.
    
     I bought 3 of these units from Montgomery Ward almost a year ago after
     so much discussion on the net. They were hard to find, so I got three
     when I could. One has never been used, new in the original box with
     manual etc. Has also been in storage ever since. Paid $44.95

     asking $35.00 + shipping (insured)

     I prefer to sell both of these radio locally, but will ship.

     Christopher Wiemert
     Silicon Graphics Computer Systems
     Mountain View, Ca.
     WK: (415) 390-1242 or
          1-800-488-1414
     HM: (408) 249-8471 OR
     wiemert@tara.esd.sgi.com
From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Wanted:  Keyer paddle
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:28:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA

Does anyone have a spare keyer paddle for sale?  I want the iambic type
(separate paddle for dits and dahs.)  A new Bencher is about $72 I
believe, so I'm looking for something substantially less than that.

Alan Bloom
alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com
From: depolo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeff DePolo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Diamond F718A 70cm collinear 4sale
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:43:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Diamond F718A 15' 11.5dBi 438-450 MHz collinear for sale:

Used for about 4 months as a repeater antenna.  Antenna is in good
condition.  Has some sealent at the radome joints.  With original
Diamond mounting brackets, in the Diamond bag, with the Diamond manual
in Diamondese (sort of a cross between Japanese and English, hi).  Works
great, excellent VSWR and performance.  Bought in January 92 for $225 +
shipping, sell for $150 + shipping (I have the original shipping box
with a piece of wood to prevent it from being bent/broken by UPS).

							--- Jeff

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 depolo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu    RF: 443.800+ MHz    442.700+ MHz    24.150 GHz
 University of Pennsylvania     Carrier Pigeon: 420 S. 42nd St. Phila PA 19104
From: Tibo Van Der Does <tdoes@igc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:07 PDT
Subject: RECEIVER WANTED
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1458300002:000:236
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!tdoes    Jul 21 19:07:00 1992


 
 
Looking for a good Receiver - will consider
Yaesu, Kenwood, ICOM, or other fine brand.
Thanks, Tibo
 
Contact: Tibo van der Does     tdoes@igc.org
         5727 N. 7th Street
         Arlington, VA 22205
         Tel: 703-525-7049


Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
From: rob@phoenix.erc.clarkson.edu.rob (Rob Logan)
Subject: WANTED BADLY: 70cm repeater and controller
Reply-To: rob@phoenix.erc.clarkson.edu
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:26:29 GMT

well this is getting intresting...  used RF equ is hard to find but I've
narrowed it down to a GE master II, exec II or MVP radio (all with no
tubes).  I just found an exec II 40watt allready full duplexed
(detuneable to 20watts for continues duty) for $395 that looks like the
ticket..  (he will also put it on our freq for $50) He also has a
nonduplexed exec II for $325 and 100watt master II for $1950

as for controlers, I've got three ideas:

1) $100 single voice id with trailing beep and such, no autopatch (ke2am)
2) $340 cwid but full duplex autopatch. (connect systems 800)
3) $800 wildly cool 4 voice ider with full duplex autopatch
and lots of analog in and outs for controling stuff. (link communication)

ideas?

---
			rob@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
Rob Logan           AMA        -----|-----   ARRL         n2qcn@k2cc.ny.usa.na
Clarkson ERC        IRCHA   *>=====[_]L)     EAA          AirBorn
Potsdam, NY 13699   PRA           -'-`-      PADI         USSA
work: 315-268-2292  fax: 315-268-6570        home: 315-265-2679
From: ccengtv@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Vogle)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Icom 2at for sale
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:37:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I posted this once got only 2 reponses, so I thought I would drop the price.

Icom 2at with bp8 heavy duty batter back with rubber duckie antenna.  this is a nice little ht.  I don't have manuals, but I have checked it out and it works 
fine.  Asking $140 Firm.  Email address is tv3@prism.gatech.edu.

Thanks,

Tim

-- 
Tim Vogle
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!ccengtv
ARPA: ccengtv@prism.gatech.edu
From: chase@sband.ed.ray.com (Tom Chase)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Rcvr/Tuner for sale
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:42:04 GMT



	Forsale:  

		  Drake R4B Receiver:

		  	Good Condition.  

		  	Extra crystals for 18 & 10 Mhz.

		  	owners manual

		  	$200/bo 


		  Dentron MT-3000A Antenna Tuner:

			Will handle legal limit
			3-30Mhz

			3 PL-259 antenna inputs 
			1 Balanced line input

			pwr/swr meters 

			200watt dummy load

			owners manual

		  $200/bo


	Contact: Tom K1UM   chase@SBAND.ed.ray.com
			Sterling, MA

Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
From: msteele@brtph606.bnr.ca (Michael Steele P825)
Subject: WANTED: 2m/70cm Dual-Band Mobile rig
Keywords: wanted dual band mobile
Reply-To: msteele@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, RTP NC  USA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:06:18 GMT

Send me email or call (919)-991-7362 if you have a dual band mobile rig for 
sale. I'm interested in 2m and 70cm. Preferably something that can receive
both bands at the same time.

Thanks!
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
From: joehol@microsoft.com (Joseph Holman)
Subject: WANTED: 150W+ 70cm amp
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:42:35 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: WANTED: 150W+ 70cm amp

WANTED:

	150W or more 70cm amplifier.

Send notices to:

joehol@microsoft
uw-beaver!microsoft!joehol

joe, KA7LDN  work - 206-936-8921.
From: adair@dbs.com (Owen Adair x3690 Atlanta)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: TW-4000
Date: 20 Jul 92 19:53:07 GMT
Organization: D&B Software, Inc.


Posted for a friend, but you may email me if you like. (How's that for 
netiquitte?)

Kenwood TW-4100
Dual Band 2m/70cm mobile
45/35 W

Works fine.  This is an earlier dual band from Kenwood. Won't listen
to both bands at the same time , and doesn't have all the golly gee-whizbang
features that the $700 models have.  Which, of course is why it isn't
$700.  

$330 including shipping.
Michael Von Borstel
(404) 928-4631
or
(404) 239-3690 (that's me at the office)
or email  ...psiuu3!atldbs!adair


-- 
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Owen Adair
D&B Software            ...backbone!uupsi3!atldbs!adair
(404) 239-3690 Voice    Wherever you go, there you are.
From: nick@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Nick England - Sun NC Development Center)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Swapmeets or stores in/near Chicago ?
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:39:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Research Triangle Park, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: trancjne.east.sun.com


I'll be in Chicago 7/25-8/2 for the SIGGRAPH conference. Are there
any good radio/electronics/surplus stores to visit ? Any swapmeets
either weekend ? Anything else interesting ??

thanks
Nick KD4CPL
nick.england@east.sun.com
From: kurdzo@gdc.com (Jim Kurdzo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: WANTED: Genave GTX-600 Schematics
Date: 20 Jul 92 19:00:41 GMT
Organization: General DataComm Ind. Inc., Middlebury, CT 06762
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


    I'm looking for schematics for a Genave GTX-600 6 meter rig.
Any help would be appreciated.  Please respond via e-mail.

Thanks,

--

Jim Kurdzo   N1KKA
General DataComm
Middlebury, CT  06762-1299
(203) 758-1811 x7550
kurdzo@gdc.com
From: fisher2557@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Siltronix for sale, $??
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:46:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: iscsvax.1992Jul30.094653.5864
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I've got a Siltronix 1011c that I have not gotten too much use out of and am
consitering selling it.  It's got a brand-new 8950 final and comes with a
spare.  All tubes good.  Comes with recieve on 11 meters. (cb)  With custom
made studio mic. (hand held)  Included also is a photocopy of all original
material, incuding alignment and schematics. (as good as a SAM manual)

anyone know what this might be worth?

later,
 Nathan                           (this tag line is umop ap!sdn)
  FISHER2557@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU             "do I know WHO?..."
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