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From: khayat@enp.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Need help ftp-ing INTEXT.
Date: 21 Dec 92 02:57:49 GMT
Reply-To: khayat@enp.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, College Park, Md.


Salam Bar Doostan:

I was trying to get INTEXT.ZIP from the node vmd.cso.uiuc.edu as advertised
in the   FAQ but ran into some trouble. I followed the instructions for
logging in but no further headway. The trouble was that the node complained
about me not setting the working directory. Much of what I tried to set a
working directory was fruitless. The piece of instruction I choked on was
"quote acct iran".
I appreciate receiving any helpful "rahnama-ee" in unloading this program.
Is this program available from any other node?

Thanks in advance for your helpful comments.

Mohammad.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
	Mohammad Khayat.
	Dept. of Physics 	     Tel.    (301)405-6113
	University of Maryland	     Email:  khayat@enp.umd.edu
	College Park MD. 20742               khayat@umdenp.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Second thoughts..
From: muskudar@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Michael Uskudarli)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:50:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

   I take back my request about learning about Shi'ite matters because
I started reading a few articles from soc.culture.iranian and see that
-very much like-soc.culture.turkish - it is full of a lot of hostility
between people. So, a request of my nature-I'm afraid-may only inflammate
the situation.
I can not go on without saying, however, that I found Agha Javed to be
a very effective argumentor and liked his postings. Keep it up.


Happy holidays,
Michael...
From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb)
Subject: Re: A humble response to Mojahedins
Organization: VezArateh Addliyyeh 
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:54:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.174403.3006@rd.hydro.on.ca> 
nbadie@rd.hydro.on.ca (Navid Badie) writes:

>The army of the Shah was created, maintained and continually expanded
>to protect the Monarchy in Iran, specifically the rule of the
>Pahlavi dynasty. It is, of course, a side effect of this intention
>that there must be an "Iran" in order for there to be an "Iranian
>Monarchy". But, again in my opinion, it was just a side effect, not

<Rest of article deleted>

In support of Navid's view of the Shah's army, and keeping in mind
amoo's non-kheety attitude, I see fit to point out several issues.

The Iranian Imperial Military structure was essentially unable to
organize and act on its own with the absence of the person of the
Shah. Tying the military infrastructure, the counter-intelligence
and SAVAK structure in such a manner was to prevent any potential
coups or plots against the Shah. The finest evidence of this was 
the collapse of the half-a-million man army while fighting several
newly trained homafars and almost non-trained civilians in the 
streets of Tehran during the four day period of 20/21/22/23 Bahman
of 1357. I vividly remember the news and the stories and the systematic
fall of military bases and government establishments. A military
of that magnitude, with such machinery and firepower, trained 
and sometimes certified as the best, fell prey to a bunch of
armed civilians, several "homAfar"s and some khordeh-bacheh's.
Afterall, they were indoctrinated with "khodA ShAh mihan". Well,
khodA is pretty well sheltered from what bandeh and jenAb-Ali decide
to do. That leaves ShAh and mihan. With the ShAh gone, they had no
one to turn to. So the lower ranks and gradually the upper ranks
turned to "mihan". Pretty weak, I must say. Especially when one
considers the billions of $$$ spent. Everything just fell apart.
Just like "pooshAl".

Added to that, are the various accounts of the intervention of the
American General Robert Huyser. From what I have read and the news
in Tehran at that time, he simply told all the "omarA" of the 
military that shAhanshAh is going and there is nothing they can
do to stop it. And they better not contemplate a coup. To which
it seems a certain "arteshbod biglary" had responded with a sneer.
He was later shot in front of his home by unknown gunmen, since he
seemed to have had the resolve to do anything, if anyone. 
When the entire military leadership of a country takes orders from a foreign
general, I tend to call it dependence, lack of resolve and initiative
and in blunt Farsi, nokari. As for the "arbAb", he was long gone.


Aref

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Adam knjkav!'  [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:03:38 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: nsohrabi@athena.mit.edu (Naghmeh Sohrabi)
Subject: Re: Woman's pos and Pesar Ammos Questions
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:50:17 GMT


The whole notion of Iranian women not being "active" and not "struggling for
their rights" is a twisted representation of Iranian history.
Women began publishing their own journals in the aftermath of the constitutional
revolution in 1906-1911. Some of these publications were exclusively concerned
with "women's rights" and others were also concerned with more "nation building"
issues and such.
When you say Iranian women have never struggled for their rights, then how do you
think female education was started?  or the right to vote? 


naghmeh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: AIDS in Iran
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:46:50 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh


I just heard a news report that Dr. Reza Malekzadeh, the minister of health in
IRI, has warned that measures need to be taken to prevent the spread of AIDS
throughout Iran.  He pointed out that roughly 26 million young people could
be potentially exposed by various ways, and that every day, 5000 Iranians
travel and leave the country for areas which are the most AIDS infested in 
the world (e.g. Thailand).  He recommended awareness programs and proper 
training and education for people with the most risk.

Perhaps if the religious conservatives in our country get their head out
of the sand, and wake up and see what REALLY goes on in society, there
might be hope.


Agha Javad
From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: !!!Satan:"Khanem Javad is a HYPOCRITE! And an old SAVAK spy!"!!!
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:33:22 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh

In article <0R9yVB1w165w@halcyon.com> satan <satan666@halcyon.com> writes:
>javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad) writes:
>
>> 
>> 
>> spit,
>> 
>> Khanom Javad
>> 
>> 
>
> Listen here bitch I know that physically some might consider you a man, 
>but to everyone else you are a khanem. Politically some might say that I 
>am a liberal, because I do support abortion rights, getting rid of 
>Republicans, and FREE SPEECH and I make no apoligies for any of my views.
>It's just faggets like you that make me mad, pretending that they're on 
>the side of good and everyone who disagrees with the popular view is 
>evil, that's why I call myself Satan. I ain't afraid to use bad words, 
>here's an example, "Khanem Javad is a gay mutherfucker and if I ever 
						^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>catch his ass on the street I'll beat the shit out of him!" And don't lie 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You just try me dickface. You'll be on your knees begging to go back to hell. 


>about not forming a conspiracy to oust me, you so called free rights 
>punk, because I was able to read SCI once in a while during my time in 
>HELL.

What? You can read?



>
>P.S.
> To everyone out there,
>  
>  If you think that supporting a namard like Khanem Javad is the right 
>thing to do, think again.
>
>Satan.

spit,

Agha Javad
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
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Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:01:50 GMT
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: Amnesty International Calendar
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:07:48 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh



I just bought the 1993 Amnesty International Calendar, and for the month of
February, it has a little poem from Forough Farrokhzad:

In a room as big as loneliness
my heart
which is as big as love
looks at the simple pretexts of its happiness
at the beautiful decay of the flowers in the vase
at the sapling you planted in our garden
and the song of the canaries
that sing-to the size of a window

Excerpt from the poem "Another Birth", by Forough Farrokhzad (1934-1966)


Agha Javad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: [(c) Iran 10000 BCE]
Organization: Arise
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:30:24 GMT

In article <lipl9rINNg1r@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> >>>>>> Anonymous writes:
>
>Mr. Naraghi writes:
>
>  Deleted text much to dismay of the author
>
>>==================  Message for Cyrus the Great Only  =======================
>> ............koorosh, shAh-e shAhAn! You ought to arise by yourself,....
>                                      ==============================
>What  exactly are you implying?
>
>a not so dirty minded fellow country man

My dear not-so-dirty-minded fellow:  I was talking to koorosh.  Good
observation, my friend.  Just be careful though.

Regards,
Hooshyar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: RE: IRAN, AFGHANESTAN, THE ARABS etc. (RE: BABAK )
From: 8809787l@levels.unisa.edu.au
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:22:06 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

Doostan Salam

I just wanted to give you the list of the references which I mensioned in my
last posting about Iran and its history etc.

1) The Last Two Million Years, Published by Reader's Digest Association 1973

2) The Persians, by Jim Hicks ( Time-Life Books ) 1975

3) The New Illustrated History of the World: The Awakening of Man 250000 BC to
   100 BC, by Postgate, Hawkins and Kemp, 1970

4) Islam and the Arab World, by Knopf, published by American Heritage
   publishing, 1976

5) Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th edition 1910

6) Ancient Civilizations: PERSIA I from origins to the Achaemenids,by
   Jean-Louis Huot, 1971

7) The Cambridge History of ISLAM ( volume 2 ), by Holt, Lambton & Lewis 1970



Well these are all the references for my last posting.

Ghorbaneh Shoma

payam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: Muslims - First Line Of Action
Keywords: Hope many other Indians come out of the closet....
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:52:01 GMT

In article <dbose.724541716@zephyr.aem.umn.edu> dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>		TO ALL PAKIS
>			
>   Abey ,
>	
		stuff deleted ................
>
>		Think of 1971 when your country was
>	fucked out of shape , it was divided into
>	pieces .(Bechara Pakistan ) I really pity
>	you guys .(Sharam ki baat to yeh hai ki tum
>	logon ko abi tak akal nahin aayee)
>
>		HA  HA  HA !!!!
> 		HO  HO  HO !!!!
>		HI  HI  HI !!!!
>
>	

Dont feel sorry for us, not only do we have the BOMB, but routinely beat
the **** out of India in both cricket and hockey.

sahibzada rafay khan [ may god make all of us more tolerant]
From: 00h0maleki@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: help
Summary: want for help
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:49:29 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

heplp
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:27:43 EST
From: Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: To fans of babak
 <1992Dec8.191433.17796@EE.Stanford.EDU>
 <92344.193853RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> <liimqdINN2m7@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>

In article <liimqdINN2m7@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM
(Shahrokh Mortazavi) says:
>
>In article <92344.193853RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> RMODARR@auvm.american.edu
>(Reza Modarres) writes:
>...
>
>>   from what goes on around SCI. This is becoming long. I guess what I am
>>   saying is go ahead have fun in/with the fourm but don't push anyone out.
>
>point well taken.  babak adds tremendous value to this forum.   to actually
>have a live representative of iri speak and publicly defened their unique
>points of view is invaluable.  as far as "pushing him out" goes, well, i
>think hes much too poost koloft to really mind anything we say.  if i had
>ever felt like babak was the type to sAnsoor his views due to anything we
>say, i would have never kidded around with him.
>
>besides, if anyones doing the 'pushing out' its the types of babak
>and seyed with their 'pasgardani' and 'we'll add this one to your
>hesAb in iran' threats... god only knows how many people feel 'pushed out'
>because of these things alone.
>
   I beg to differ with your last point. Thanks to people like you, most
   netters have the fantastic facility of being able to post anonymously.
   So, any time they "feel" their so called "first amendment" right is in
   jeopaerdy, they can still say what's on their mind.


>i also tinks that our horsing around actually keeps him active and
>in shape!

  I think so, too. Every one needs to loosen up a bit if you asked me.

>
>>P.S. who loves you baby?!
>                    ^^^^
>is that baby or bAby?
>who loves bAby, as in bAbakeh khodemoon?  we all do!
>

   I meant it like as in dear, but it's also a suitable short name for bAbak.
   I wonder if he actually uses "bAby"?

RezA
>>
>>RezA
>
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: amin@leon.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Amin Shokrollahi)
Subject: HELP!
Organization: /home/leon/amin/.organization
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:10:03 GMT


Dear SCI users,

I am searching for a friend of mine who left Germany some 5-6 years
ago for Los Angeles. Since then I have been trying to contact him,
without any success. Also my efforts to contact his parents in Iran
failed. The last news I had from him was that he was studying
electrical engineering in Los Angeles (unconfirmed information). His
name is "Behnam Djafari"; I'm sure that he will not be the only person
with this name in Los Angeles, but maybe the following informations
are useful:
- He is 30 years old,
- He has visited the German school in Tehran,
- He has lived in Germany for 5 years before leaving Germany,
- He has a brother who is a pilot of IRAN AIR (or at least he used to
  be a pilot of this airline)
I hope Behnam will apologize me distributing these data on a public
net, but this seems to me to be the last possibility to get some news
from him. 

If anybody from you knows something about him, I would be most
grateful if she/he could tell him that I am searching for him and give
him my email-address. 

Thank you all,
Amin Shokrollahi

P.S.: It is also possible that he is not living in LA anymore. I
      really don't know.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 23:54:33 CST
From: Fardad k.      <U33720@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Iranian things in Hawaii??

hello;

    Does anyone know about any Iranian resturants in Hawaii?
specifically MAUI?

    Any other iranian 'things' ?

I'll be there next week.
Fardad
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: lei-la
Date: 12 Dec 1992 00:07:52 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Dec10.031228.23584@netcom.com> bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
>
>Damn shahrokh!  You had to refresh our 'poosideh' memories?  
>Keep it coming.


ok... how about leylaa by yaghmAyi/bAbA tAher, since we're talking 
about leylA:

[there may be mistakes...]

leylA leylA leylA, leylA ro bordan         (sung twice)
siyA cheshmoon boland, bAlA ro bordan	   (twice)

ze dasteh deedeh-o del hardo faryAd	   (twice)
ke har cheh beeneh deedeh del koneh yAd    (twice)

besAzom khanjari, neeshah ze foolAd	   (twice)
zanom bar deedeh tA del gardad AzAd	   (twice)

- - -

heres the gerdsooz version with english subtitles (dont laugh):


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leylA! leylA! leylA!  leylA's taken away...
		    the dark eyed, long haired one's taken away...


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        :          (|         :.      :      c   /        

frustrated at the Eyes and the Heart 
		    for everything the Eye sees, the Heart wants...


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            /        /    (|             :     /.   (   / 

a sword i shall build, with edges of steel!
		    cut my Eyes so the Heart will be freed...


=begin=

lyla lyla lyla,  lyla rv brdn		
syah GSmvn blnd ba la rv brdn
z dst dydh v dl hr dv fryad
kh hr Gh dydh bynh dl knh yad
bsazm Knjry nySS z fvlad
znm br dydh ta dl grdd azad

=end=


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: S A F A R - San'at Haml-o-Naghl Special Publications
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:11:50 GMT

This appears on the first page of SAFAR.
It should answer some of the questions people have regarding this publication.

Ala
----------------------------------------------------------------------
S A F A R
Occasional publications of the San'at Haml-o-Naghl
Number 3

Address:
1474 Dr. Shariati Ave
(N. of Gholhak Junction, opposite Shahr-o-Roosta Cooperative)
P.O.Box : 15875-2628
Tehran, Iran

Tel:  263840, 261726


SAFAR is the special tourist publication of the San'at Haml-o-Naghl
Monthly magazine and appears as quarterly.
Apart from printing travelogues and reports prepared by our writers
and reporters from locations in the country and abroad, useful and
essential information about travelling inside and outside Iran
appear in its pages.

In fact the quarterly consists of two sections:

1- Reading of general interest;
2- Information about travelling.

Internal reports, including introduction of various towns and
places of historical and natural interest as well as the climatic
conditions tourist facilities of various places are undoubtedly
shaped by their writer's emotional and intellectual impressions.

As for foreign reports, in every issue of the SAFAR, our reports
try to present a number of countries or areas as regards their
places of interest, tourist facilities and shopping provisions.  On
the whole, the picture is meant both the general visitor as well as
those interested in economic and commercial aspects of various
places of the world.  In this section, we sometimes make use of
material printed in foreign publications.
But the information section of the SAFAR contains useful data about
domestic and foreign tours, coach and train and air ticket prices,
travel agencies, air routes, passenger cargo regulations, Iranian
museums, exchange regulations, the method of receiving visas and
similar points.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hamid@telesoft.com (Hamid Radvar @lone)
Subject: Re: Resturan In Chicago
Organization: Alsys Group, San Diego, CA, USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:14:03 GMT

In <BzGJIp.HvK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:

>tabiei@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:

>>Salam every body
>>I want to go to chicago next week.
>>Can any body give me an address of the best Iranian
>>resturan there. mamnon.
>>Ala Tabiei
>>tabiei@ucbeh.san.uc.edu

>Reza's Restuarant in Clark St. (close to Foster St.)
>is the better one.
>It also has very reasonable prices.

>Ala

I have a story to tell about Reza's Restuarant.  I was in Chicago for a few
weeks last year.  I ate at Reza's twice, once right after I got there
and once right before I left (the restaurant is close to the airport.)
The first time I was profoundly moved by the quality of their
chelokabob.  It was so good I could not wait to try it again.  Even here
in southern California I hadn't had chelokabob that would even come
close.  So, I spent the next few weeks drooling over the thought of 
trying it again before I left town.  Let me cut the story short, I had
the worst chelokabob imaginable upon my return there.  I was dumbfounded!
I could not beleive my taste buds.  Was it the same place?  Did they
layoff the cook?  I was quite disappointed to say the least.
Well...do I recommend the place or not, you ask me?
You bet.

That's all folks...

Hamid Radvar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian