From: hossein@nu.Berkeley.EDU (Kal Hossein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.rights.human
Subject: Re: Repression of women has been escalated in Iran
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:53:30 GMT
Reply-To: hossein@nu.Berkeley.EDU (Karbalaie Hossein)
Followup-To: soc.culture.iranian

In reference to an article posted by Kal Hossein An anonymous
user from Nebraska writes :

>Without taking sides, here is a number of observations I
>have made:
>News releases from the Mojahedin  about Iran has normally been
>immediately confirmed/reported by the international media. Consider
>for example the speedy news reports of the Mojahedin about the
>protests and demonstrations in Arak, Shiraz, Mashhad, etc. They
>were immediately reported in the world media.
> ... <<Stuff deleted>>
>And finally, to the best of my knowledge, no news item of the
Mojahedin has been shown to be false.

There are two interesting things about this user. 

1. His lack of experience with reality.
My friend, MKO has actively supported the invasion of Iran by Iraq and
Saddam's regime. How can anyone claim the news reported by such an
organization is anywhere close to the truth? Don't forget that MKO is
interested in one thing and only one thing, its own well being. 
In this respect they are as bad as, or even worse than, the IRI.

2. His lack of experience with being consistent. As is evident in the next
article posted by the same user in the SCI,

>An "akhound" is an "akhound". And akhounds are inherently against
>women, against personal freedoms, and democratic values. Iran's 
>situation will never get any better, but worse, as long as these
>creatures, with their disastrous economic policies, limitless
>crimes and human rights violations, and reactionary "velayate
>vaghih" system are ruling in Iran.

Dooste Aziz Kojaye Karie? If you didn't task sides in the previous
article, you sure are taking sides now. As someone who has spent
a lot of time with the various groups interested in Iran and having
seen and being a sympathizer of a "revolutionary" organization before
the Revelation of Islamic Republic, I can assure you that independent
analysis is the only way to go if you want to understand people and 
their behavior. For example, why would Rahmani be proud of the fact
that 113000 arrests were made? Think about the implications of such
statements. By the way, this news is reported inaccurately. The number
of arrests in Iran due to lack of "proper" clothing is less than a 100.
(that is per annum, not per day!) the number of warnings and citations issued
however, is astronomical. In defense of Iranian women and their right to
select the clothing of their choice I must tell you that even 1 warning
is too many and displays the nature of the Islamic Republic and its 
attitude towards individual in general and women in particular. Islamic Republic
feels the need to control the individual and his/her choices as it
imposes the morality of the "majority" down the throat of the individual.
It is of interest to note that many of our younger generation
have become independent thinkers and doers who are not be so
easily fooled by the propaganda machines of the right and the left. 

--Kal Hossein
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.rights.human