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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:53:00 GMT

LH> -=> Quoting Kevin Basey to Peggy Mcbride <=-

LH> > We just started picking this message area up.... In reading the
LH> > messages, I have noticed some that are coming off the internet, in
LH> > replying to these messages, does the Internet Address have to be
LH> > quoted
LH> > to the first line of the message?  I know on some of the
LH> KB>
LH> KB> No, it just helps the people on usenet cross reference who the
LH> KB> response is to.  Just something that looks good.  People on usenet
side
LH> KB> don't get these messages like we do where replies go directly to that
LH> KB> person.  All messages in usenet  newsgroups are to ALL and not a
LH> KB> particular person.
LH> KB> Example:
LH> KB>
LH> KB> Fidonet sees:
LH> KB>
LH> KB> To: Marv Cotton
LH> KB> From: Whoever
LH> KB> Subject: Whatever
LH> KB>
LH> KB> people in usenet see:
LH> KB>
LH> KB> From: Whover@wherever.domain
LH> KB> Subject: Whatever
LH> KB>
LH> KB> Notice there is no To: and if there is it's To: ALL.
LH> KB>
LH> KB> Different technolgies..
LH> KB>
LH> KB> ...klb
LH> KB>
LH> KB> -!- TMail v1.30.5
LH> KB> # Origin: Find our missing children - Usenet Gateway 512-451-0891
LH> KB> (8:7102/1)  ! Origin: FamilyNet Intl. Echogate [708] 887-7685
LH> KB> (1:115/887)

LH>How are we able to merg Fidonet, Internet and FamilyNet????

LH>Larry Hyman

  Don't forget GT-Net, RIME and RBBS Net. This is done through the use
  of "Gates" or individuals willing to move the echos between Nets in an
  effort to get the information to as many people as possible.  Kevin is
  one of the people who are willing to do this.

    Marv Cotton, Co-Moderator

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From: Craig.Castleberry@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Craig Castleberry)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Filebone mischild
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:09:37 GMT

Im writing to you to find out more info on the missing child file area on  the
fidonet filebone. I'm going to start to work with Nevada child  seekers and
told them about the file area that sends gifs out. they are  intrested in the
doing the same. is there someone that i can talk to  about making gifs and
about scanning?
  
 Craig Castleberry
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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: 48 Hours
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:36:00 GMT

HG>MC>  I wonder if the father will ever be able to have a relationship with
HG>MC>  this son who was so terrified.  It is a sad commentary that someone
HG>MC>  who searched 5 years would do that to the son he tried so hard to
HG>MC>  find.

HG>I can see your point here, but do remember the father's viewpoint, too.
HG>After searching five years for his son, he was probably not thinking
HG>about the fact that the boy's memory might not be as good as his own.
HG>Keep in mind what the father was going through for those five years.
HG>He's a person, too.  I hope that his unintentional mistake won't cost
HG>him.  He's suffered, too.

HG>Hal

    That's the pity of what happened Hal.  I do not blame the father as
  after five years of searching he had finally found his son so his
  reaction to rush to the boy was natural.  My concern is that it was
  handled badly by the authorities and other agencies involved.  I
  believe that the father should have remained in a neutral place and
  the child brought to him.  There was no need for the police to storm
  the house or for the boy to be picked up and rushed from his room.
    I am afraid that because of the way it was handled the father will
  never be able to have a relationship with the son he searched five
  years to find.
    It will take quite a while for the boy to overcome the terror he
  felt when his mother was taken away and those strangers burst into his
  house.  How would you feel under those circumstances and how do you
  imagine a 9 year old would feel?
    There were no winners in that episode.  Mores the pity.
      Later, Marv

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From: Greg.Naber@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Greg Naber)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Prevention
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:01:26 GMT

The Child Safety Checklist.

Yes No
__ __  Does your child know what to do if lost?
__ __  Have you ever discussed peer presure with your child?
__ __  Have you discussed when your child should get out of a freind's car?
__ __  Have you discussed with your children what should be done if they
       find themselves at a questionable party?
__ __  Have you ever taken a walking tour of your neighborhood?
__ __  Have you physically checked out the facilities your child attends
       such as a daycare or school, sports facilities or other play areas?
__ __  Does your child know when to reject adult authority?
__ __  Have you ever discussed emergency procedures with your child?
__ __  Does your child carry personal identification and medical information?
__ __  Are both you and your child prompt?
__ __  Do you know if your child is a follower?
__ __  Do you know if your child is a wanderer?
__ __  Can you account for your child's whereabouts hourly?
__ __  Have you discussed with your child who might be the best people
       to approach if he/she needs help?
__ __  Have you ever done any public transportation training wiht your child?
__ __  Do you know specifically how much money your child has to soend?
__ __  In the presence of your child, do you display a positive attitude
       towards police and the law?
__ __  Is your home a gathering place for kids?
__ __       A) Have you thought of why?
__ __       B) Do you know whose house is a gathering place for kids?
__ __  Do you know the telephone numbers and addresses of your child's
freinds?
__ __  Have you met the parents of your child's freinds?
       Do you feel you:
__ __       A) Listen to your child?
__ __       B) Spend enough time with your child?
__ __  Does your child know how and where to reach you at any time?

     IF YOU ANSWERED "NO" TO ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS, CONSIDER A CHANGE IN
                BEHAVIOR TO INCREASE YOUR CHILD'S SECURITY!
From: Troy.Dowding.@.980/14@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Troy Dowding @ 980/14)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: statistics
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:00:00 GMT

Marv Cotton was heard babbling to Mike O'malley about statistics


 MC> Mike, according to The U.S. Dept. of Justice report based on a study
 MC> performed in 1988 the numbers are as follows;

 MC> 127,100 children who were THROWN away.

Of all the things that you quoted,  This makes me want to PUKE!  There
are a lot sorry excuses for life forms but these (IMHO) are the worst.
I could rant for hours on these issues, but I'll just leave it at that.

Laters,
     Troy


... Gold medalist, freestyle conclusion-jumping event.


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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: 48 Hours
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:47:00 GMT

HG>MC>    That's the pity of what happened Hal.  I do not blame the father as
HG>MC>  after five years of searching he had finally found his son so his
HG>MC>  reaction to rush to the boy was natural.  My concern is that it was
HG>MC>  handled badly by the authorities and other agencies involved.  I
HG>MC>  believe that the father should have remained in a neutral place and
HG>MC>  the child brought to him.  There was no need for the police to storm
HG>MC>  the house or for the boy to be picked up and rushed from his room.
HG>MC>    I am afraid that because of the way it was handled the father will
HG>MC>  never be able to have a relationship with the son he searched five
HG>MC>  years to find.
HG>MC>    It will take quite a while for the boy to overcome the terror he
HG>MC>  felt when his mother was taken away and those strangers burst into his
HG>MC>  house.  How would you feel under those circumstances and how do you
HG>MC>  imagine a 9 year old would feel?
HG>MC>    There were no winners in that episode.  Mores the pity.
HG>MC>      Later, Marv

HG>You're absolutely right, both on how it should have been handled, and
HG>for your last sentence about no winners.  It will also have the poor kid
HG>seeing policemen as being bad guys who took away momma and let a
HG>stranger come in and grab him.  We can only hope and pray...

HG>CUSoon...
HG>Hal

HG> * SLMR 2.1a * Earn cash in your spare time blackmail your friends
HG>---
HG> * Origin: MUSES : Baton Rouge, LA -- [504]-767-4668 (PPI 14.4k)
(1:3800/22)

  Yes,  I did receive a reply from the Executive Producer of 48 Hours.
  Since it is at the Center I will not get it until tomorrow.  I'll let
  you know what he said.
    Later, Marv

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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: statistics
Date: 4 Oct 92 20:57:00 GMT

MO> I am curious about the missing children who have been found. Does anybody
MO>know what the ratio is that are runaway vs being kidnapped? I used to think
MO>that those who were kidnapped would be small in number, but strangely after
MO>watching "America's Most Wanted" last night, I guess it must not be so
MO>uncommon for it to be a kidnapping.

  Mike, according to The U.S. Dept. of Justice report based on a study
  performed in 1988 the numbers are as follows;

      114,600 attempted abductions by non-family members.

        4,600 abductions by non-family members reported to the police

          300 abductions by non-family members where children were gone
            for a long period of time or murdered

      354,000 children abducted by family members

      127,100 children who were THROWN away.

      438,200 children who were lost, injured or otherwise missing.

      450,700 children who ran away.

    These are numbers for one year.  Please remember also that because a
  child is abducted by a family member does not necessarily mean that
  the child is either safe or well taken care.

   Also because a child ran away does not mean the child is not in
   danger.  We recently had a 13 year old girl who talked a 12 year old
   into running away.  The 13 year old was a recruiter for a child
   prostitution ring.  We not only helped recover the girl, but the
   rings leader has been sentanced to 5 consecutive 99 year sentances,
   it seems some other girls came forward who had been used by this
   individual.

      Marv Cotton, Heidi Search Center

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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Filebone mischild
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:11:00 GMT

JLD>Hello Craig!

JLD>Wednesday October 07 1992 02:09, Craig Castleberry wrote to Marv Cotten:

JLD> CC> Im writing to you to find out more info on the missing child file
area
JLD>on
JLD> CC> the fidonet filebone. I'm going to start to work with Nevada child
JLD> CC> seekers and told them about the file area that sends gifs out. they
ar
JLD> CC> intrested in the doing the same. is there someone that i can talk to
JLD> CC> about making gifs and about scanning?

JLD>If your going to do it too, I'll drop out, I am working on the same thing.
JLD>Wanna get together on it?


JLD>John

JLD>--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
JLD> * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS, Las Vegas, Nv, Usa (1:209/720)

  Darn, I was going to call that organization when I was in Las Vegas
  last year.  Wish I had.  See my answer to Craig.
     Later, Marv

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From: Glenn.Fluehr@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Glenn Fluehr)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Found Child List
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:00:00 GMT

MC>   Russ and I would like to thank everyone for participating and
MC>helping.
MC>
MC>   Marv Cotton and Russ Coombs, Moderators
 
I would like to display these missing childern GIF files here on my board.
I am living in Orlando, Fl and would like to help in anyway I can to show
people these pictures of the missing and found childern.
 
Here is my info:
 
Glenn Fluehr
Mobile Log, Inc.
Data Processing Manager
4600 Oak Creek Street #102
Orlando, Fl  32835-2878
Voice: 407-296-0584
 
I would like to hear from you about this more...  Thanks in advance...
 
...Glenn
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From: James.Korolas@fquest.FidoNet.Org (James Korolas)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Street proofing our kids
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:43:08 GMT

Marv or anyone in the know:

Are there not any videos and or books that we as parents can get that we can
show to our children dealing with ways that children are lured away and
subsequently abused or worse?

I had a tape made of a 60 Minutes program where a "rehabilitated" pimp
explained how he used to lure young children away from malls to his car where
he would abduct them and force them into prostitution.  It scared my neice when
she saw how "sincere" this creep was while spewing his line.

Unfortunately, the tape was destroyed in a fire a couple of years ago and I
have need of this type of information to show my own daughter, now that she is
old enough to understand it (she's 8).

Thanks in advance.

---
From: Nancy.Porter@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Nancy Porter)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: NEW CONFERENCE
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:09:00 GMT

I would just like to announce for the whole world that Land of the
Gypsy's is now officially carrying this fine conference as of THIS
message.
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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: statistics
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:50:00 GMT

MO>In a message of 04 Oct 92  14:57:00, Marv Cotton wrote:

MO>MC>   Mike, according to The U.S. Dept. of Justice report based on a study
MO>MC>   performed in 1988 the numbers are as follows;
MO>MC>
MO>MC>       114,600 attempted abductions by non-family members.
MO>MC>         4,600 abductions by non-family members reported to the police
MO>MC>           300 abductions by non-family members where children were gone
MO>MC>             for a long period of time or murdered
MO>MC>       354,000 children abducted by family members
MO>MC>       127,100 children who were THROWN away.
MO>MC>       438,200 children who were lost, injured or otherwise missing.
MO>MC>       450,700 children who ran away.
MO>MC>     These are numbers for one year.  Please remember also that because
a
MO>MC>   child is abducted by a family member does not necessarily mean that
MO>MC>   the child is either safe or well taken care.
MO>MC>
MO>MC>       Marv Cotton, Heidi Search Center
MO>MC>
MO> Absolutely stunning! That's over 1.4 million. How many are found/return
bot
MO>well and otherwise? For me, I consider the worst one of that list is the
one
MO>for chidren who are thrown away.

MO>--- FIDOdoor+ 3.1.8
MO> * Origin: The Maligned ST <DSM IA Atari> v32/v42bis (515)253-9530
MO>(1:290/3.0)

  I agree with you Mike.  The 127,100 thrown aways really stick on you.
  As for recoveries I do not have any figures on those.
    Later, Marv

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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Found Children
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:45:00 GMT

DS>Marv,

DS>I need to know where to pick up the Missing children gifs now, I was
DS>previously picking them up from SMCIS.  I had sent in the application
DS>and everything to him.  Then just within the last month or two I saw
DS>where he is dropping out of it.  So do I need to call your board,
DS>what's the number?  And do I have to go all thru the applic. thing
DS>again?
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   Raymond Bullock carrys them in GTnet.  Where are you located?  The
   GIFs are going on the FILEBONE, I just need to have someone willing
   to set FILEBONE up there as I have people who will gate the FILEBONE.
     Later, Marv

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Xref: sparky alt.missing-kids:460 alt.dads-rights:2447
From: shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell JD)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids,alt.dads-rights
Subject: Re: Custody In Colorado?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 11:46:11 -0700
Organization: Knapp & Viola, Attys., San Mateo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gw.home.vix.com

In a recent missive Jinny.Husty@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Jinny Husty) tells us:
* 
*NO.  She can not vanish with the child if the father has sole custody.
*That is kidnapping and punishable by 2 years in prison, NO visitation
*rights whatsoever.  And all 50 states are working hand-in-hand now
*and enforcing this law.  Furthermore, NO ONE can take the child and
*leave even if they ARE married.  It is still parental kidnapping and
*a trial could be held without the absent parent, giving the parent
*who was left behind SOLE custody...meaning a warrant will be issued
*for the missing parent's arrest.
* 

This misinformation is patently untrue.  If two people are married,
either parent can essentially do what they want.  If I am living with
my husband, and one day pack up and leave and take our children to
another state, that is *not* parental kidnapping, because guess
what..I have just as much right to physical custody of those children
as he does. In fact, this is exactly how many women ensure that they
will get physical and legal custody..because by the time the father is
able to get them into court, she, and only she, has had the children
in her sole possession for months, and the court will not disturb that
arrangement.

Furthermore, depending on the time frame, the court action can be made
to be in the jurisdiction where the parent with the child/ren is, as
that is where the children's roots will be.

Please be careful when posting information of this sort which can have
a legal significance.  This is very dangerous misinformation.  I have
a client right now who was in a very abusive situation..her husband
was regularly beating the Y%*@#( out of her, and the kids, and she was
afraid to leave the area because he told her he'd have her arrested
for kidnapping, and not knowing any better she believed him.  


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From: Debi.Saari@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Debi Saari)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Found Children
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:00:00 GMT

Marv,
 
I need to know where to pick up the Missing children gifs now, I was
previously picking them up from SMCIS.  I had sent in the application
and everything to him.  Then just within the last month or two I saw
where he is dropping out of it.  So do I need to call your board,
what's the number?  And do I have to go all thru the applic. thing
again?
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From: Greg.Naber@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Greg Naber)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Prevention
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:59:16 GMT

The following messages are part of the Do It Yourself Crime Prevention
Handbook, distributed by the State of Washington Crime Prevention Assn,
Block Watch, King County Police, and various other agency's.

PERSONAL SAFETY

Most crimes are crimes of opportunity. The key to staying safe from
assault or robbery is to avoid places or activities that provide a
criminal the opportunity to commit a crime aganist you.

Likewise, the best way to avoid domestic assault is to take steps to
limit the attacker's opportunity to get away with the crime.

Probably the least expensive measure you can take to protect yourself
against crime is to incorporate certain habits into your daily routine
that make you and your family less vulnerable. Adopt a 'security
conscious' lifestyle. The best prevention is precaution. A basic rule is
to stay ALERT to your surrondings. Trust your instincts. If you feel
uncomfortable in a place or situation, leave!

What if it happens to you?

When faced with danger, trust yourself. Stay as calm as possible, Think
rationally, without panicing. Evaluate your options. There is no one
right way to respond to a confrontation. Every situation is different.
The response depends upon the circumstances: location of the attack,
your personal resources, the characteristics of the assailiant and the
presence of weapons.

There are many strategies that are effective, but you must rely on your
own judgement to choose the best one:

No Resistance
Stalling for Time
Negotiating
Distraction and then Fleeing
Verbal Assertiveness
Screaming to Attract Attention
Physical Resistance

Always make a conscious effort to get an accurate description of your
attacker and call police immediately!
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Found Children
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:52:11 GMT

I am happy to announce that I have received notification from the
  National Center For Missing and Exploited Children that the following
  children have been found and returned to their families.

 SysOps please remove these childrens GIFs from your system.

    370.GIF  Stephanie Anquiano                           CHILD16.ZIP
    454.GIF  Crystal Hubbard         Missing Since 08/90  CHILD24.ZIP
    471.GIF  Kathy Jo Heydon         Missing Since 03/92  CHILD26.ZIP


       Marv Cotton and Russ Coombs, Moderators.

      Heidi Search Center
      2402 Pat Booker Rd.
      Universal City, TX
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
From: lindae@netcom.com
Subject: MISSING!  Amanda Nicole Campbell
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:35:36 GMT
Expires: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:00:00 GMT

 

   /////////////////// PLEASE POST /////////////////////////////

MISSING 
(the following descriptive information was obtained at the time of
disappearance.)

AMANDA NICOLE CAMPBELL
Nickname: Nikki
Missing/Stranger Abduction

Age at Disappearance - 4 1/2 years old
Date of Birth:  05-07-87
Date Missing:  12-27-91

MISSING FROM - Fairfield, California

Sex:  Female		Race:  White
Height: 3'6"		Weight: 60 lbs.
Hair: Blond		Eyes:  Blue

Last seen wearing purple short sleeve top, purple corded pants with cuff,
white playschool tennis shoes, and pink cotton jacket.  Has distinct
dimples on both cheeks; pierced ears; light brown moles on forehead and
near nose.


Law Enforcement Agency:  Fairfield Department of Public Safety 
			 or
			 Local FBI Field Office
			 Phone:  (707) 428-7300

If you have information on this or any other missing, abused, or exploited 
child, please call

Child Quest International, Inc.
For Sighting Calls Only  1-800-248-8020

(408) 492-1122 Headquarters
1190 Coleman Avenue, Suite 1-D, San Jose, CA  95110


PLEASE POST THIS INFORMATION IN A VISIBLE PLACE!!!!!!