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From: farid@cs.albany.edu (Hany Farid)
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
Subject: graduate schools with srong OS programs
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:30:47 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Computer Science Department, SUNY at Albany, Albany, NY 12222
Originator: farid@karp.albany.edu


I have a friend who is interested in pursuing a Ph.D. in operating
systems and would like to know what the top universities in the US are.

Any feedback would be appreciated - email responses can be sent to
farid@cs.albany.edu.

thanks in advance,
Hany Farid
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From: hilander@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Most things are better eaten than forgotten)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: dosread
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:30:15 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu

i just installed minix on my 2nd partition of my 1st hard drive

i am having troubles using dosread..
(i checked in the manual but no help for beginners :P)

i do a dosread -a foobar > /tmp/foobar
with no luck

i have tried to get a file off of the a drive.. no luck

how can i get a directory ? or even access drives a,b hd1 and the partition on hard drive 2 (all dos file systems)

thanx?

hilander@silver.lcs.mit.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Holzer)
Subject: Re: dosread
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:30:43 GMT

newton@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Mark Newton) writes:

>In article <1992Aug18.183026.8428@udel.edu> hilander@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Most things are better eaten than forgotten) writes:
>>i do a dosread -a foobar > /tmp/foobar
>>with no luck
>>i have tried to get a file off of the a drive.. no luck

>dosread expects a block special device that it is supposed to read from.

>So, to read something from drive A:, use a command line like this:

>   dosread -a /dev/fd0 foobar > /tmp/foobar

>/dev/fd0 corresponds to the A: drive.

What version of dosread are you using? All versions I know (1.3 ...
1.6.16) do not take the pathname of a block device as their first
argument, but a single letter from which they build the pathname by
prepending /dev/dos to it. So to read something from the A: drive you need a special file
/dev/dosA (with the same major/minor numbers as /dev/fd0 or a link to
/dev/fd0). Then you call

	dosread -a a /dev/fd0 foobar > /tmp/foobar

(All of this is in the manual, BTW. Is it really that hard to
understand?)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: whcheung@grand.uwaterloo.ca (Henry Cheung)
Subject: Re: minix-V displays Japanese Kanji on PC-AT/clones   1/7  Docs (English)
Keywords: minix, minix-V, PC-AT/clones, Japanese Kanji
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:51:36 GMT


It seems that I (we) miss minix-V package 4/7 (SRCs/CDIFFs 3/6). Would the
author repost it again please. Thanks.

-- Henry Cheung (grand.uwaterloo.ca)
From: bobmon@moose.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Need address for academic license
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:31:37 GMT
Organization: 'twixt Dali and Dada

A member of my faculty would like to acquire a "site license" for Minix
1.5 on our instructional pc's, but (in his words) "The book side of PH
doesn't know anything about it , although its available as a product for
other machines."

Can anyone supply an address or person at Prentice-Hall that we could
contact?

thanks in advance,
-bob montante
From: dschwepk@samson.hac.com (Daniel Schwepker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: PC Minix for Sale
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:29:33 GMT
Reply-To: dschwepk@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO

am willing to sel for half price ($80). Reply off-line.

Daniel Schwepker
dan@hti.dnet.hac.com


Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: yatrou@INRS-Telecom.Uquebec.CA (Paul Yatrou)
Subject: info on minix for pc wanted
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Montreal, Canada.
Date: 17 Aug 92 01:26:26 GMT


A friend will be teaching a course on operating systems this fall.
He would like to use Minix 1.5 for pc's (I know nothing about Minix,
I am assuming this is the latest version). Now the questions:

- Is Minix share-ware, public domain, or commercial?

- How does one go about getting the Minix package?

- Does the package include source code for the kernel?
  (this is required for the course he will be teaching).

Excuse me if these are FAQs but I haven't seen a comp.os.minix-FAQ
anywhere...

Thanks,
Paul Yatrou (yatrou@inrs-telecom.uquebec.ca)
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From: Glen_W._Lalonde@magicbb.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: MacMinix use of TAS
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:06:31 GMT
Organization: MAGIC - Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada

I looked around a bit in mac minix and found the following in mpx.s

test_and_set:
    move.l 4(sp),a0
    tas(a0)
    beq L1
    move.l #1, d0
    rts
L1: move.l #0,d0
    rts

This routine is called from two places,
idel.c in idle_wakeup and
tty.c from tty_wakeup

Since the TAS instructions special bus access is not support on the Mac
SE and
II this may cause some trouble. I will see if some reasonible
alternative 
exists.

Glen Lalonde,
glalonde@vnet.ibm.com  
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From: beer@ira.uka.de (Erika Beer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Non-US keyboard and MACMINIX
Date: 15 Aug 1992 15:24:22 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: i60s14.ira.uka.de


Hello all,

I have a problem when trying to run MacMINIX on top of a GERMAN version of
system 7.0 (on a Mac of course).  According to the manual this combination
should lead to a German keyboard mapping, but unfortunately that is only
partially true, as the shift key seems to be ignored. Now to get upper case
letters I can help myself with pressing the lock key (so at least I can login)
but some symbols (e.g. ";", ":","(",")") require the shift key and are thus not
accessible.

In addition, some other symbols (e.g.the symbol for the pipe, brackets and
braces) require the option key to be pressed. As I am using an extended Apple
keyboard with a control key I would like to be able to remap the option key.

I know that I can switch to the US keyboard mapping (and strange enough, in
that case the shift key works as expected) however, as I am more familiar with
the German keyboard I would prefer the German mapping.

Is there any way to get access to all symbols without switching to the US
keyboard mapping? Any ideas welcome.

Thanks in advance, Erika.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.os.linux
From: callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
Subject: Re: New ftp location for the folding editor Origami
Keywords: origami
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:50:49 GMT

In article <15785@star.cs.vu.nl> philip@cs.vu.nl (Philip Homburg) writes:
>I think that Andy decided to keep Minix simple because students either 
>don't have the hardware to run virtual memory (PCs, ATs, Amigas, Ataris, Macs),
>a network file system, or X, 

Just a small technical point:
	Macs _DO_ have the hardware to run virtual memory and network file
	systems (see System 7, please; both are built in, and both work on
	the 68000 processor (albeit slower 'n molasses in January)--at one
	point I was running System 7 on a Classic (which required that virtual
	memory be enabled--System 7 was too much for the 2M machine :-))
	And...X is redundant on a Mac. (Although it does run under A/UX; I know
	someone who uses it on a MacII (68020).)

				James

James P. Callison       Microcomputer Coordinator        OU Law Library 
Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu   /\        Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor
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	The insane locked up in themselves, the homeless down on Main
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	And those who wait forever for ships that don't come in
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From: zzang@whale.stat.ufl.edu (Zhuo Zang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: diff clone for DOS wanted
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:55:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Florida

Hello,
I try to find a good diff clone for the PC.
I check the Simtel <txtutl>, and it has some
programs; but they aren't doing the same as
the Unix diff.

Could someone direct me a good one ?

Thanks in advance !

I saw a diff by Erik Baalbergen, which is
pretty close to the Unix diff.
But the version is very old ('87), and it has
a few bugs. I wonder if Erik has a new version
now.

zhuo
From: nemossan@uitec.ac.jp (Sakurao NEMOTO)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: minix-V displays Japanese Kanji on PC-AT/clones   1/7  Docs (English)
Keywords: minix, minix-V, PC-AT/clones, Japanese Kanji
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:22:08 GMT
Organization: Univ. Industrial Tech., Sagamihara, JAPAN

In article <BsvLA1.55o@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> whcheung@grand.uwaterloo.ca (Henry Cheung) writes:
>
>It seems that I (we) miss minix-V package 4/7 (SRCs/CDIFFs 3/6). Would the
>author repost it again please. Thanks.

Thank you for attention to minix-V packages.  As far as I know, all the
posting done successfully including 4/7 SRCs/CDIFFs 3/6.  Only one trouble
is 2/7 of font-package posted at the last.

I any other wants to repost, then I'll repost 4/7, but if 4/7 was arrived
out of Japan, I'd rather choose to e-mail.  OK?


	(Thu) Aug 13 08:20 JST(+0900) 1992  nemossan@uitec.ac.jp
	(NEMOTO Sakurao, Univ.Indust.Tech. Sagamihara 229 JAPAN)
	 (Tel: +81 427 63 9136 >DIALin<   Fax: +81 427 63 9011)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: Jonas Svensson <Jonas_Svensson@augs.se>
Subject: Amiga MINIX and Harddisks ?
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:46:01 GMT


Can Amiga MINIX use any HD at all ?
Can it be fixed to use my Skyline ? It's a an ALF-look-alike controller and
a Seagate RLL HD. I'm an C-programmer but I do not know a damn about how to
speak to the HD.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: minix on Apple's Powerbooks
From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars Andreas Stole)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:59:48 GMT
Reply-To: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars Andreas Stole)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

I apologize if this is a FAQ, but I seem to remember that mninix will not  
run on a powerbook, even though it is part of the macintosh family.  Is  
this true?  I just bought a powerbook and would love to run Minix if  
possible. Thanks in advance.



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University of Chicago, GSB 
(312) 702-7309  
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: Jevan Pipitone <Jevan.Pipitone@vulcan.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Does the Shoe Fit?
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:16:18 GMT

> Now my problem is how to run the multiple operating systems!  IBM supplies
> a so called Boot Manager but before I get into that I wonder if Shoelace,

I can't really help you with this, but I'm thinking of setting up a minix
partition on my hard disk, and I currently have 3 partitions, the boot
manager, DOS 5.0, and a HPFS partition. Firstly, if I delete one partition and
add two new partitions (eg turn the DOS 5.0 partition into a DOS 5.0 and minix
partition), presumably this won't affect the data in the HPFS partition?
Secondly, can the boot manager handle booting minix (I assume so?).

Another question, I'm currently have a very old version of minix (v1.1) which
only runs on IBM XTs (not clones). I also have the upgrades to upgrade from
v1.1 to v1.5. If I upgrade on the XT, does this mean I'll be able to run them
off a 386/486 now? (ie does upgrading to v1.5 mean it will now work on a 486
even though it's a clone).

--Jevan--

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From: hp48sx@wupost.wustl.edu (HP48SX Archive Maintainer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: MacMinix problem on SE/Mac II...
Date: 18 Aug 1992 18:08:59 -0500
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: wuarchive.wustl.edu

glalonde@VNET.IBM.COM ("Glen Lalonde") writes:

>There was some talk on comp.sys.mac.programmer about how the SE and MACII
>(possibly plus?) don't support the TAS instruction. Well you can use it but
>the hardware does not support it. I greped the minix source and it
>does use TAS!! IM VI also indicates you can't use TAS on the SE and macII.
>(Tas is in mpx.s in the kernel)

The machines supports TAS, but it may be interrupted (which is against
the purpose of this single instruction Test And Set). I am not sure how
task swapping is done under MacMINIX, but it may be without problems.
Worst problem is, that it will not be portable, and may crash later.
And all instructions depending on being in supervisor mode will surely
crash at some stage. 
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From: jones@darth.pgh.pa.us (Davey Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Does the Shoe Fit?
Keywords: Shoelace, Bootstrapping, OS/2
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:38:41 GMT
Organization: Darth Software, Allison Park, PA


I have finally bitten the bullet:  I bought OS/2 while it was still $49.
Now my problem is how to run the multiple operating systems!  IBM supplies
a so called Boot Manager but before I get into that I wonder if Shoelace,
which I am presently using to switch between DOS and Minix, can handle
the booting of OS/2?

Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: henrik@husc.harvard.edu
Subject: MacMinix on an SE with an Accelerator ...
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:50:10 GMT


Anybody out there running MacMinix on an SE with an Accelerator (with System
7, of course, to compound the fun).

It crashes for me in the middle of the boot after bringing up the console window.
I can boot with the 68030 just fine if i boot off a system 6 floppy (but then
when i try to Quit it crashes the machine).  I can't beoot off the 68000 
'cause I run out of memory (the motehrboard has but one meg).

For those whoe care, I've got a 1mb SE with a Magic RailGun 25mhz 68030 
installed with 4mb on that board, and a hard disk with system 7.0.1
installed on it.  i'm allso running Connectix's Compact Virtual 3.0.

					larry...

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From: dbenn@leven.appcomp.utas.edu.au (David Benn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: Amiga MINIX floppy problems
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:53:29 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston


Thanks for that. At least I know it wasn't just me.
I'll keep your tips in mind.

Now for the good news! Although I consistently got errors by using a PC
diskcopy program (on a PC in fact), when using transfer -f in AmigaDOS
mode, followed by diskcopy in Minix, things worked just dandy. I noticed a
couple of weird things however:

	1. If I tried to write protect my originals when diskcopying
	   Minix seemed to assume that the target disk was
	   write-protected too. Does Minix only check for the write
	   protected status of the source disk? 

	2. If I used a disk that I had previously used to copy one
 	   of the Minix originals onto (via PC diskcopy), it would
	   come through the transfer -f okay, but a Minix diskcopy 
	   would fail to work correctly, instead giving a heap of
	   bad sector errors.               

Along with the PC diskcopy failures, 2 leads me to conclude that the floppy
drivers must be very sensitive in Minix...

Now that I have Minix up and running, I intend to install the patches, and
customise things a little. 

I apologise for the severe tone of "voice" I used in my last posting. I
guess I was just getting a tad frustrated.

Oh, BTW, can someone give me an answer to the question I posed last time
about how to get Minix to accept the ROOT and /usr disks in a different
drive at boot time? The prompt for the ROOT disk says that the bootdev can
be specified. Does this mean just another disk apart from ROOT in dd0? Or
can I specify the 2nd or 3rd disk drive...?
 
Regards...



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From: philip@cs.vu.nl (Philip Homburg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: Paging for Minix-386
Keywords: Paging
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:36:45 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam

In article <9208131226@frmxqnx.hanse.de> root@frmxqnx.hanse.de (Frank Rabe) writes:
%I have heard about patches for paging under Minix-386 done by Philip Homburg. 
%Do this patches really exist?

I posted a few times about the work I have available on ftp.
The virtual memory patches are in the directory /pub/philip/toBruce at
ftp.cs.vu.nl. I created this directory to send some versions to Bruce Evans,
but everybody can use it now. Note that this version is more than 1 year old,
it is the first version that got out, and it is based on Minix 1.6.15

%                              How far are they gone? Where can I get them?
%Can someone please mail me or post more details about this.

The version I wrote last year implemented virtual address spaces but no paging
to disk. When I wrote that version I had a 12M machine so there was no reason
to assume that you could run out of memory. But at the moment I have 4M
machine, which does run out of memory so I decided to implement paging.
I rewrote the 386 dependent part and included paging to a disk partition
(at_wini and floppy at the moment). This version is almost stable (I am working
on swapoff, locking for raw disk I/O and performance improvements). After that
I can try to create some diffs. These diffs will be incomplete, for the wrong
assembler, and therefore for hackers only.

%Normally every Minix-386 user should be interested or already using them.

According to our ftp logs, many people ftp the current vm version that is 
online, but I never heard of someone who tried to get it running.

%And there are also the patches for swapping(and more features) done by Michael
%Convey, which are still in beta testing. He send me the patches as a beta
%tester. I will try to get them running under Minix-386. Are there other 
%Minix-386 users trying the same? 

After both VM and paging are stable, it might be worthwhile to merge the
machine independent parts. If you want to prepare yourself to running a paging
vm system, it might be a good idea to get the current (non paging) version
running.


							Philip Homburg




Philip Homburg 			   			<philip@cs.vu.nl>
Vrije Universiteit / Dept. of Math. & Comp. Sci.	+31 20 5483546
Amoeba project / De Boelelaan 1081A
1081 HV Amsterdam / The Netherlands
From: alanlb@bethesda.cs.vt.edu (Alan L. Batongbacal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: MINIX 1.6.16
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:22:11 GMT

Hi there!  I've downloaded the stuff on the 'star' machine, in the directory
/minix/cdiffs, and the READ_ME file says that the stuff consists of
patches for MINIX 1.6.16.  My questions are:

1) is this stuff stable?
2) is it generic MINIX or machine-specific (the READ_ME doesn't say much)?
3) can I use it to patch AmigaMINIX 1.5.10.2?

I'll summarize any replies I get.

Thanks!

Alan L. Batongbacal
alanlb@cs.vt.edu
From: dschwepk@samson.hac.com (Daniel Schwepker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: PC Minix for Sale
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:36:28 GMT
Reply-To: dschwepk@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO


Try again. 
I have Minix for the IBM PC, version 1.5.10, and will be willing to sell it for half
price ($80). Reply off-line.

Daniel Schwepker
dan@hti.dnet.hac.com


Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: stmckenna@nap.amoco.com (Stephen T. McKenna)
Subject: Re: Amiga MINIX floppy problems
Reply-To: stmckenna@nap.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco Research Center
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:44:42 GMT


Just to let you know your problems aren't unique:

I had a bad disk in my original set.  They were quickly replaced (thanks for
that, P-H) but the second set had a bad one too; luckily a different one than
the first set, which I had copied, so I now had a complete set.

Although Minix is running now, it goes through disks at a furious rate.  The
typical situation is sudden unrecoverable read or write errors, frequently in
groups of 5 consecutive blocks.  The transfer command is particularly prone
to corrupting disks this way; when transferring from the Amiga to the Minix
side I usually write a half dozen disks in hope that one will read.

I don't think patches are the answer; I've patched up to 1.5.10.2 and not
seen any improvement, although the patches are worthwhile anyway.  My advice
on muddling by is to keep everything write-protected whenever possible; this
includes /usr at boot and login time (Minix will gripe about the write-protect
when it tries to write /usr/adm/wtmp, but that's harmless).

I have admittedly old hardware (6 year old A1000 with a 68020 add-on) but it
has never had disk drive problems.

Can anyone out there offer explanations or (hopefully) suggestions?

Steve McKenna
stmckenna@nap.amoco.com
Amoco Research Center
Naperville, IL, USA
From: glalonde@VNET.IBM.COM ("Glen Lalonde")
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: MacMinix problem on SE/Mac II...
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:43:23 GMT

There was some talk on comp.sys.mac.programmer about how the SE and MACII
(possibly plus?) don't support the TAS instruction. Well you can use it but
the hardware does not support it. I greped the minix source and it
does use TAS!! IM VI also indicates you can't use TAS on the SE and macII.
(Tas is in mpx.s in the kernel)

I will try to post more info on this as I find out about it.
From: meulenbr@prl.philips.nl (Frans Meulenbroeks)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: minix hackers meet at the atari fair in duesseldorf
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:08:05 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands

Hi,

I'm meeting a few minix hackers at the atari fair in duesseldorf.
If you happen to be here and want to join us, be welcome.
Meeting time is saturday 22/8/92 near the portfolio island on the atari
booth at 1 pm.
If there is no such an island the alternative meeting place is
near the entrance of the press area, also on the atari booth.

From there we'll try to find some place to sit and talk
(probably in german, but dutch or english is also possible).

Frans.

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Frans Meulenbroeks        (meulenbr@prl.philips.nl)
	Philips Research Laboratories
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