HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: valaris@swifty.dap.CSIRO.AU (Andrew Valaris)
Subject: Mac II for sale
Organization: CSIRO, Division of Applied Physics, Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:39:11 GMT

I have an original Mac II for sale the ones with large CPU and six
nubus slots. Configuration:

	- 2 meg ram / 40 meg hard disk
	- 19 inch megascreen and card B&W
	- 1 800k floppy drive
	- FPU installed
	- Imagewriter II printer

I have had this computer for home use only and is in excellent condition. It hasnever had any repairs done to it as it has never caused me any problems what so
ever. It is in perfect working order. The screen is a little hazy in the top    left hand corner, but nothing bothersome.

If you are intersted, please e-mail me with an offer, all considered. I will
give it to the highest bid within the next week ( realistic prices please ).

Andrew

valaris@dap.csiro.au

Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: pjordan@rp.CSIRO.AU (Patrick Jordan)
Subject: FREE stuff
Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics, NSW, Australia
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:55:31 GMT



The following items are FREE to anyone who cares to collect them:
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* Akai Reel to Reel tape recorder. Built in stereo valve amplifiers.
Takes 7" reels. Not working properly, but otherwise in good condition.

* Old Video game. I think it is an Intellivision. It was repaired at
some stage, but I'm not sure it works.

-- 

Be seeing you!

Patrick.

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CSIRO Division of Radiophysics      |        // \   I am not a number,
NSW, Australia                      |       /( 6 )  I am a free man.
pjordan@rp.csiro.au                 |      () \_/
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From: rxkajh@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Velvet -  Manda)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: Hard Drive 40Mb Macintosh LC
Summary: Internal 40Mb HD $150 5 Mths Warranty left
Keywords: Cheap
Date: 9 Oct 92 10:45:24 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Contact Michael on 826 2002, if your hard disk has given up the ghost and you don't want to buy a new one
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: pjordan@rp.CSIRO.AU (Patrick Jordan)
Subject: Byte and APC
Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics, NSW, Australia
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:57:48 GMT


The following items I am open to reasonable offers on:
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* Old Byte and APC magazines - nothing particularly rare.

-- 

Be seeing you!

Patrick.

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Patrick Jordan                      |          _
CSIRO Division of Radiophysics      |        // \   I am not a number,
NSW, Australia                      |       /( 6 )  I am a free man.
pjordan@rp.csiro.au                 |      () \_/
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From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: PERTH: Multitrack Cassette Recorder (Yamaha MT100II)
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:27:41 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

Yamaha MT100II   4-track multitrack cassette recorder/mixer
   
   - Selectable Normal/High speed (4.8 and 9.5 cm/sec)
   - pitch control (plus minus 10%)
   - DBX noise reduction
   - mic/line sensitivity trim controls on each of the four
     channels.
   - independent record/play select switches allow ping-pong,
     all-track-recording, etc.
   - light-touch electronic transport controls.
   - punch i/o 
   - Stereo 5-band EQ (100, 400, 1k, 5k, 10k hz, +-10dB, Q=0.7)
   - w&f < 0.15% WRMS
   - freq.resp. 50hz - 18khz, +3/-6dB at 9.5cm/sec
   - S/N 85dB w/dbx
   - independent send controls, mono out and stereo returns.
   - 1/4" i/o, RCA for track outs.
   - just like new, low usage (about 6-10 C90's played on it) much loved...
     regularly cleaned and demagnitized.
   - Only ever used TDK SA and SAX tapes in it.

Only $450

New cost $700

Scott Fisher

PH: (09) 380 3272 (Work)
    (09) 386 6328 (Home)
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Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au]  PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272).                
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Department of Psychology                                    /      \    W + E
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Nedlands, 6009.  PERTH, W.A.                                      v       

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Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: pjc@YP.melb.bull.com (Paul Carapetis)
Subject: NetComm 123 Pocketmodem - Melbourne
Keywords: modem pocket melbourne
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:20:58 GMT

So you want true portable communications but don't have a fortune?  Well,
do I have a deal for you...

Netcomm 123 Pocket modem with built in ni-cad rechargeable battery,
recharger and mains power unit, comms software, cables, manuals etc.
Supports V21, V22 and V23 protocols.

Brand new in box.  I would like $175 but I do like a good haggle, so make
me an offer!

Call me on (03) 2464944 during business hours or email me at
pjc@melb.bull.oz.au.

Paul

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Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter])
Subject: HP calculator 48sx 4 sale (melb).
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:31:16 GMT


I have this real clever calculator which I have never realy used.

I need some money so well.
HP 48SX for sale.

To the best offer.
Still have box and all manuals.
In great condition. (not used much at all).


James.
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Systems Administrator                                        ACN [003 130 434]
From: skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Shaw Goh)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: 386sx Mboard
Date: 12 Oct 1992 04:04:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

OK.  I've inserted this posting before but someone did a bad deal on me.
I still have the 386 SX 16 Mhz Motherboard.  Has 2Mb DRAM, Intel
Chipset, Phoenix BIOS.

I'll seriously consider any offer at all but please make it reasonable!

Please email me direct

Shaw...
skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
From: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu)
Subject: TSeng Labs ET-3000
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:52:48 GMT



For Sale

1 Original TSENG LABS EVA/1024 VGA-Sync Video Card.
        * 512K Of Video Ram
        * ET3000 Chip
        * Comes with drivers for many software programs
        * Supports MDA,CGA,EGA,VGA
        * Feature Adapter
        * 1024 x 768 x 16 Max resolution

        Price $125

  +----------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
  |  Kevin Lu                              | Monash University             |
  |  Email: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au  | Clayton, Victoria             |
  |                                        | Australia                     |
Newsgroups: aus.forsale,aus.wanted,aus.general
From: moeller@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Mc Mars)
Subject: Re: SEX, SEX and more SEX
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:00:13 GMT

gmathers@trl.oz.au (Geoff Mathers) writes:


>Now that the subject line has got your attention, it's time to get
>serious.

Please refrain from doing this. This isn't alt.stupidity.


>---
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>|  Geoffrey N  Mathers  )  Back when I started programming, we didn't |
>| Telecom Research Labs (  have those wimpy icons and windows. All we |
>| Clayton,Victoria,AUST )  had were ones and zeros,  and sometimes we |
>|       DoD #0685       (  didn't even  have ones.  I once  wrote  an |
>| g.mathers@trl.oz.au   )  entire database program using only zeros.  |
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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             / moeller@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au |/| |_
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Newsgroups: aus.news
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Aus. posting stats
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:58:36 GMT

(These exclude the aus hierarchy, BTW.)

Top ten Australian posters:
  42 wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au
  37 zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
  35 michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au
  32 bena@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
  32 P.Herlihy@ccsd.uts.EDU.Au
  31 rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au
  26 gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au
  23 kat@werple.apana.org.au
  20 s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
  20 maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU

1053 unique posters were identified.
There were 2991 Australian-originated articles, which is 3.07%
 of the Usenet total.

1.14% posted 20 articles or more. 
2.66% posted between 10 and 19 articles.
11.30% posted between 5 and 9 articles.
16.33% posted between 3 and 4 articles.
22.13% posted two articles.
46.44% posted one article.

-- 
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
From: peter@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Peter N Lewis)
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: Re: Which NewsGroups not being imported into Australia?
Date: 14 Oct 92 07:21:50 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

root@cltr.uq.oz.au (Hulk Hogan) writes:

>kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz) writes:
>>In <1992Sep21.054856.29370@cltr.uq.OZ.AU>
>>root@cltr.uq.oz.au (Hulk Hogan) writes:
>>| Errr.  I recall about 2 years ago the announcement in aus.general or
>>| somewhere that alt.sex.pictures and alt.drugs were to be blocked.
>>I think you remember incorrectly, it was alt.sex and everything under it.
>>(And alt.drugs).

>>Sometime after that, some of the groups (maybe all, I don't know)
>>started coming via an alternate path.   Maybe that has stopped,
>>again I don't know (if someone does know, and wants to send me
>>e-mail about it I can let people know without making it 100% obvious
>>where the alternate link was).

I missed the start of this thread, but censorship is bad in pretty much
any form, so I figured I'd add some facts in:

Here at Curtin, I looked thru alt.drugs and alt.sex* to find:

alt.drugs: We get a full feed by the looks of thigs, and the articles do
appear to come via pyramid.com.

alt.sex*: Only local postings or crossposted articles get thru.

So thats where we're at.  Of course, all that is really required is
someone to get a feed via some other means (nntp to a host in the states
would probably work, but could be considered unsporting :-) and
redistribute them.

Another alternative is to post to alt.sex* and request people all cross
post to alt.no-censorship (someone whould have to create that, or just
pick an existing group).  Cross posting to comp.news or some such might
be more fun, but would likely be counter-productive :-)

I can't see anyone arguing that this is based on economics and not
censorship though.  The link has been upgraded several times since this
ban went into place, an no other "non-accademic" groups have been culled
(such as soc.* and talk.<most> and rec.<lots> and alt.<most>).  Just as
well really, since every time a group is banned the traffic will go up
as multiple people read news direct from the states...

So, anyone feel like providing an alternate route into Oz?

Have fun all,
   Peter.
_________________________________________________________________________
Peter N Lewis, NCRPDA, Curtin University         peter@cujo.curtin.edu.au
GPO Box U1987, Perth WA 6001, AUSTRALIA                Ph: +61 9 368 2055
This line alone consumes much more than a megabyte of diskspace worldwide
Newsgroups: aus.news
From: chrisc@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Chris Corcoran)
Subject: Test Post (Please Ignore)
Originator: chrisc@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au
Organization: School of MPCE, Macquarie University, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:10:52 GMT
From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: comp.ai.shells getting bounced
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:42:23 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

After just installing NEWS here (and studiously refraining from posting
a message saying "I'm back!" :-), I'm getting ship-loads of bounced
mail, like you see below.  The News here is late-model B-news (better
the devil I know), version 2.11.19 (the latest I could find).  I know
what is causing it - how do I _fix_ it?  Upgrading to C-News (or INN)
is not an option at this stage.  I thought this bug was fixed?  And the
last message I saw was to make c.a.s moderated...

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
While talking to mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU:
>>> RCPT To:<comp-ai-shells@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au>
<<< 550 <comp-ai-shells@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au>... User unknown
550 <comp-ai-shells@munnari.oz.au>... User unknown
   -----------------------------------------

Here is mailpaths:
	backbone	%s@munnari.oz.au
	internet	%s

Can I direct moderated postings individually (they are NOT coming from
this site, but just passing through)?

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Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@esi.COM.AU                ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave
           Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?"
From: 10u6579@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: Problem with newsgroup wanted.
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:24:02 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales


  I would like to receive alt.radio.pirate a newsgroup which is not currently
available to me.  Does anyone have any ideas how I can receive it??
  Please E-mail if you have any ideas.
Best Wishes,
Henry.
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: Aus. posting stats
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:13:48 GMT

brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:
 >I bet they didn't exclude the uts hierarchy, though.

How much?

-- 
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: Re: comp.ai.shells getting bounced
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:25:56 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

King Robert Elz has kindly provided the solution - it should NOT have
been moderated!  Thanks.

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@esi.COM.AU                ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave
           Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?"
Newsgroups: aus.news
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Re: Aus. posting stats
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:11:29 GMT

axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

 >brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:
 > >I bet they didn't exclude the uts hierarchy, though.
 >
 >How much?

How about lunch at the Mekong last Saturday.

                      Brent.

ps - if Patrick really does post that much then we should *definitely*
     cut his wages.

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"Pioneer of aerodynamics,                     |   Brent Curtis   
 They thought he was a real smart Alec,       |   School of CompSci
 He thought big and they called it phallic,   |   UTS
 They didn't know he was panoramic."          |   New South Wales
Newsgroups: aus.news
From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Re: Aus. posting stats
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:30:38 GMT

In <axolotl.719121516@ultima> axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:
>Top ten Australian posters:
]  42 wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au
]  37 zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
]  35 michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au
]  32 bena@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
]  32 P.Herlihy@ccsd.uts.EDU.Au
]  31 rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au
]  26 gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au
]  23 kat@werple.apana.org.au
]  20 s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
]  20 maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU

  Woe is me... How the mighty have fallen.

Friendless
Newsgroups: aus.news
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Re: Aus. posting stats
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:41:14 GMT

axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

 >(These exclude the aus hierarchy, BTW.)
 >
 >Top ten Australian posters:
 >  42 wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au
 >  37 zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
 >  35 michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au
 >  32 bena@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
 >  32 P.Herlihy@ccsd.uts.EDU.Au

I bet they didn't exclude the uts hierarchy, though.

                 Brent.

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"Stay calm,                  |   Brent Curtis         
 Don't be alarmed,           |   School of CompSci
 It's just a holiday,        |   UTS
 Back at the funny farm."    |   New South Wales      
Newsgroups: aus.news
From: rossc@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Ross Cartlidge)
Subject: Metro stopped feeding news
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:36:50 GMT

Metro.ucc.su.oz.au stopped feeding news on Friday
because X25 went crazy and sent the load up too high to
send news.

It is now fixed (10:30am 12 Oct)

Sorry about this.

rossc
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From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: aus.followup
Subject: Re: keating - our hero!
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:11:08 GMT
Distribution: aus

in article <1992Oct8.103044.87@actew.oz.au>, ina_pearce@actew.oz.au says:
> I'd love to see him say that face to face to the millions of people who 
> had jobs back in 1981 and now have no job and no prospect of ever getting
> a job.

FYI, there are approximately 2 million more people employed today than there
were in 1981, which seems to contradict your statement.  That's not to say
the current unemployment situation is not bad.
 
> To the millions of kids who back in 1981 had hopes and dreams of what they
> wanted to do when they grew up. Who now are either wasting their time 
> studying at university because there's no prospect of getting a job

You'd prefer the John Howard credo "I wish we were back in 1950 when there
were lots of unskilled, dead-end jobs around"?  I thought having a highly
educated society is desirable, especially now that manufacturing earns 25% of
Australia's export income and is the second fastest growing sector of the
economy (after services).

> And while destroying all these millions of peoples lives he still managed to 
> explode the countries deficit by billions of dollars.

Well, this happened in countries governed by Conservative Governments (eg UK)
so obviously this effect is relatively independent of Government policy.

Also, two-thirds of Australia's gross national debt is in Private hands.  What
do you suggest - the Government legislate against private investment?

Seems like the private sector has made more bad financial decisions than the
Government.  Commonwealth expenditure as a proportion of GDP is at its lowest
level for nearly 40 years.  By all objective measures, this Government has
probably been the most financially restrained and economically prudent
Goverment we've had post-war.

That doesn't mean recessions don't happen though.  It does mean that thanks to
the Government building up a $10 billion budget surplus in 1988, they can keep
the safety nets in place (eg unemployment benefits that don't get cut off
after 9 months) for all the casualties of the recession WITHOUT sending the
country broke.

Perhaps you should consider the socially regressive nature of a GST since
you're so concerned with the social impact of Government policy.  While you're
at it, let's kick people off unemployment benefits after 9 months.  They
obviously don't want to work and are bludgers.

> I notice Keating himself can still afford his luxury cars

What luxury car is that?  It's Dr. J that owns the Ferrari...
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From: dnk@yarra-glen.aaii.oz.au (David Kinny)
Newsgroups: aus.followup
Subject: Re: Voting
Date: 8 Oct 92 05:18:05 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Australian Artificial Intelligence Institute

ina_pearce@actew.oz.au writes:

>The illegallity of multiple voting I'm refering to is having 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc
>preferances - meaning if your first vote is for someone who isn't one of the
>leading candidates you get to another vote, and then another until you have 
>voted for one of the leading candidates.

>each person should only get ONE vote and if you decide to waste your vote on a
>loser then stiff shit! The winner should be the one with most votes after
>everyone has voted ONCE.


Consider voting as an exercise whereby you reveal your opinion about the
prospective candidates, say for example X,Y, and Z.  The system you propose
allows one to say

	"I like X at least as much as I like the rest"

but does not allow you to say anything else.  Suppose you are indifferent
to X and Y, but dread the thought of Z being elected.  You have no way of
distinguishing this from loving X (or Y) and being indifferent to Z.

The system prevents you from revealing other than a small part of your
preference relation.  It leads to anomalies, such as candidates being
elected for whom the vast majority of the electors did not vote.

A better system is one which allows you to reveal your full preference
relation.  Numbering all candidates is close, but requires you to choose an
order for candidates who you might consider to be equally desirable.
A system that allows you to stop numbering at some point would be better,
you could then reveal as much of your preference as you wished.  It would
still be just one vote.

Of course the arguments over how to compute the winner would still remain.