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From: lrr@hickory33.cray.com (Larry Rolison)
Subject: % of CD costs
Originator: lrr@hickory33
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:27:54 CDT


From the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Saturday, 19 September 1992, in an article 
warning us about megastars starting to cost us paying fans an extra buck a CD to
feed their megacontracts (I'm glad I don't buy CDs by these people):

           35%    retailer
           13%    manufacturer (5% disc, 8% package*)
           16%    artists (12% performer, 4% songwriter)
           27%    record company (8% marketing, 16% other costs (recording,
                     overhead, etc.), 3% profit)
            9%    distributor

Their sources were:  Warner Bros., LA Times, Chicago Tribune

* So how much of this do you think will be passed on to us when US manufacturers
  dump the long boxes next April?

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From: mgraham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Malcolm Graham)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Info on Technotronic "Move This" 
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 23:27:29 GMT

mpdixon@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL P DIXON) writes:


>I would like to know as well.  I cannot even locate a trace of Technotro
ic on
>CD.

>Any info is appreciated.

>Mike Dixon 
>mpdixon@eos.ncsu.edu
>|> 
>|> I've seen a cassette-single release with Move This (i believe this is
the
>|> title) and one or two other songs.  What I'd really like to see, but 
aven't
>|> found yet, is a CD single with many different versions of this song. 
Does
>|> such a beast exist yet?
>|> 
>|> Thanks.
>|> 
>|> -- 
>|> Thomas.Mueller@mixcom.com | We love to rave, and it shows. (H.P.Hover
raft)
>|> I used to be gibsonlp@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dean Herman).  Can you say "h
cker?"
>|> I still maintain the Skinny Puppy samples list.  Send me e-mail for a
copy.
>|> 


     As far as Technotronic on CD, there's _Pump Up the Jam-the Album_ and
a remix album called, I think, _Trip On This-The Remixes_.  The second
album _Body to Body_ is not available in the U.S. except as an import. 
SBK Records released CD singles of "Pump Up the Jam" and "Get Up" when
they were popular, but I haven't seen the same for "Move This," though the
12" single was only released about two weeks ago.
     Also, Ya Kid K, lead singer for Technotronic on _Pump Up the Jam-The
Album_ ("Move This", "Get Up", etc.), has a solo album coming out on
November 3, titled _One World Nation_.  (Vocals on second album _Body to
Body_ are by Reggie).

-Mgraham
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From: jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu (jason reiser)
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd - When The Tigers Broke Free
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 09:15:15 GMT

The version on the promo CD of the Wall concert from 1990 says it is
from the film... play time is 3:00.  BTW, it is in stereo.
	The CD itself is a Demonstration-Not For Sale from Columbia.
The # on the CD is CSK 2126

I got mine a while back when it was released, but it is still around
for about $24.00  

Unfortunately, IMHO, it's not really worth it.  I'll keep it since
it's unique and I listen to it on occasion, but for 6 songs, 4 of
which I already have... 

				- Jason
jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu
From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: The Orb: Assassin question
Date: 17 Oct 1992 03:13:49 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <-6rpvag@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>moi writes:
>
>> The outside of the package calls it "Assassin CD set".  Inside there are
>> holders for 2 CDs.  However, only 1 holder has a CD in it. 
>
>The second single came out a week after the first, and lucky you, you get
>to buy it separately -- a practice which isn't new but which is suddenly
>becoming sickeningly popular, especially in the UK.

Thanks for the quick reply, Lazlo.

Personal rant and rave to Big Life Records and Wau! Records:

This kind of crap is really annoying.  We are talking about CDs here, record
company folks!  You know, the format that can hold 80+ minutes on *1* disc.
Forcing consumers to buy 2 discs with under 30 minutes of music apiece,
especially when they are considered a 'package' and are going to be released
only 1 week apart anyway, is really cheesy and money-grubbing.

Thank-you.  I feel better now.
-- 
=     Andrew Krieg	| 						=
= krieg@titan.med.ge.com|  Treguna   Mekoides   Trecorum   Satis   Dee	=
=	   or		|						=
= krieg@point.cs.uwm.edu| 				    - Astoroth	=
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From: jagrant@emr1.emr.ca (John Grant)
Subject: Re: Mint Juleps/ acappella
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:52:39 GMT

ted@cs.umn.edu writes:
>No.  The Nylons have an album named Rockapella.  This is unrelated to
>the group Rockapella.  Rockapella (the group) is younger than the
>Nylons.  They also appeared on a Whoopie Goldberg HBO special about
>one year(?) ago.
>	...

So is there any other material available on CD by Rockapella?  If so, does
'Zombie Jamboree' appear on it?  Can you supply a label, name, number etc?
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From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Subject: Re: CDs mastered at a too low volume level?
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:40:55 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network

The reason for this is that there is a limit in the digital converters
to the effect that the loudest part of the CD has to be a certain dB
level above 0, or above the lowest dB level of the music.  I read a
lengthy discussion about this in a tech magazine and, of course, remember
none of it.

Music that's has huge dynamic outbursts (ie classical) has to be recorded
at low levels so the loud areas aren't distorted.

It seems that the d/a converters have a specified range they operate in,
and the width of that range doesn't change; anything outside of that
window is distorted as an inherent 'feature' of the d/a converter.  So
starting at 0 dB, with a ceiling of, say, 15 dB, you have to record the
music so the LOUDEST point is within that ceiling of 15 dB or you'll
have distortion at any volume level.

I sincerely apologize for posting this without concrete evidence, but
I know what I read...maybe a techie can clean this up for me, as I
think I'm on the right track.

Clint
 __________________________________________________________________________
 Clint Fleckenstein   <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu> <fleckens@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
 Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5 / KQCD TV 7              .5k EX Pilot  
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From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CDs are timebombs?
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:22:01 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

roger@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Roger Donahue) writes:

>The fact is that a friend had a CD copy of R.E.M.'s Green which became
>unplayable after about a year. I tried the disc on 3 different players in
>addition to several that he tried it on, and in each case the disc sounded like
>a lot of static, with bits of music thrown in. It did not sound like the
>typical ticking noises you get from severe scratches or big smudges.

>I looked at the disc for signs of abuse, and it was spotless. The disc was
>returned to Warner Brothers with a nice letter, and they replaced it. The
>replacement disc is (still) fine. Also, my copy of Green, which was purchased
>at the same time as the dead one is still fine.

Sounds like some kind of manufacturing defect, to me.

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd - When The Tigers Broke Free
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:42:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Oct3.130419.5255@news.iastate.edu> glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha) writes:
>There's a *really* high quality bootleg (I just thought it was an import,
>until informed otherwise) called "The Film."

        It is, however, mono, taken from (I think) the left channel...or was it
the right channel?  You can tell when you listen to "Run like Hell", since
alternating verses are panned 3/4 left and 3/4 right.  On _The_Film_, one of
the voices is substantially quieter due to there being only one channel.

        Except for that flaw, which I think is inexcusable, I think they did a
damned good job on the project too.  The inclusion of "We'll Meet Again" is
also a nice touch that fills out side 3.

        By the way, the label on which that record was pressed was "Celluloid."
This was well before the "Celluloid Records" ads started showing up in trade
magazines, so I assume they aren't the same outfit.  (Either that, or they're
awfully stupid to use the name they used on their bootlegs!)  Did this
"Celluloid" put out any other bootlegs?


-- 
John Davison
davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
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Subject: Shades CD
From: dave@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 21:18:59 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

Due to continued requests for information about a CD I mentioned I
owned, here is a bit of info about Shades by Chris Hulsbeck.

The CD offers 10 tracks and an extra bonustrack.  The total playing
time is 70.48 minutes so you will get quite some music for your money.

    The songs you will find on Shades:

    - Turrican Medly
    - Nightmoves                (4Pm internal)
    - Theme from R-type
    - Power of magic            (The magic of Power mix)
    - Shades
    - Masterblazer              (Jazz 'o' matic)
    - Addicted to these games   (NES Mix)
    - Warzone                   (DiColamix)
    - Heavens Gate              (Lazerdub)
    - Tower of Babel            (Helleluja mix)
    - Tale of glory



It is released by A.U.D.I.O.S Entertainment (Germany) but is marketed
and distributed by Factor Five (Germany)

I don't have addresses for either company (if someone does, could you
please tell me), because I ordered my copy through Newsflash Magazine
from UGA Software in Holland.


I would very muchly recommend this to anyone that enjoys music made
using Synths/Computers etc..  Mind, you the "Addicted to these games"
track could be liked by almost any modern music nut :)


According to the CD, this is Volume 1.  Anyone know if there is
another one due to be released, or if there is any other CD's similar
with this style of music.


                                                :)ave

--
David Dustin             | "I've never seen so many damn Indians."       
Dave@Dogbox.acme.gen.nz  |                                  - G.A. Custer
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Subject: Help on song in Listerine Commercial---Please!
From: nwchritton@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Badass Gremlin)
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:08:19 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

I want the name of the song and the artists for the Listerine commecial.

I don't know who it is, and would like to get the cd for it.

Anyone know who it is?

It have the "tarzan" yell in it.

Thanks all,
-Neil
From: VETTERS@vax1.elon.edu (Steve Vetter  )
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: WHEN WILL GARTH BROOKS GO AWAY???
Date: 15 Oct 1992 23:56:00 GMT
Organization: Elon College
Distribution: world
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X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

In <1bhdeaINN74n@bigboote.WPI.EDU> beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU writes:

> 
> 
> 
> I hate to sound unknowledgeable but here goes...
> I was looking at ht emost recent issue of ROLLING STONE magazine
> and when looking at the BillBoard charts I noticed that Garth Brooks 
> has released his new album...
> 
> When looking at the statistics they list 4 albums in the top 50.
> one albus there for 127 weeks
> another for 60 weeks
> another for 76 weeks
> and a new one for just 4 weeks
> it looks like this guy will never die ??@!!!!!!!!
> so if he has sold 28 million albums in the past 2 years how
> does that stack up to other records 
> I think 28 million albums in 2 years must be some sort of sales record???
> anyone have any information about this????

The question is:  When will the Billy Ray Cyrus faze blow over.  Come
on, people are going nuts over the stupidest little song (IMO).

--Steve















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From: ted@cs.umn.edu (Ted Stockwell)
Subject: Re: Mint Juleps/ acappella
Organization: Minnesota Hackers' Guild
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:46:14 GMT

jagrant@emr1.emr.ca (John Grant) writes:
>   In article <TED.92Oct15235236@micro.cs.umn.edu> ted@cs.umn.edu (Ted Stockwell) writes:
>
>   >on PBS's Great Performances once with several other acappella groups
>   >(True Image, Rockapella, The Persuasions, Ladysmith Black Mambazo, and
>   >Take 6) in "Do it acappella", hosted by Spike Lee and Debbie Allen.  I
>   >have only been able to find the soundtrack to the show (which I highly
>   >recommend!) and I want more!
>
>   I love the song 'Zombie Jamboree' on that Spike Lee disc and tried for months
>   to find other material by Rockapella.  Eventually I was told by someone who
>   seemed to know that that was actually the Nylons doing that tune and that
>   there is no 'Rockapella'.  Is this true?

No.  The Nylons have an album named Rockapella.  This is unrelated to
the group Rockapella.  Rockapella (the group) is younger than the
Nylons.  They also appeared on a Whoopie Goldberg HBO special about
one year(?) ago.  If you listen carefully and know the Nylons well,
you will notice that the voices are different.  (keeping in mind that
that Micah is only on Four on the Floor, and the newest Nylon will be
appearing on for the first time in their next album)  If you like the
Nylons and Rockapella, try to get a chance to listen to The Blenders.
They are a new acappella group that opened the last Nylons concert I
went to.  Fun stuff.

The Great Performances program was rebroadcast a few months back.
Keep an eye out for it, it will probably come around again.

--
Ted Stockwell                                     ted@cs.umn.edu
"It's not the bullet that kills you, it's the hole."  -- Laurie Anderson

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From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Todd Rundgren "Back to the Bars"
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:19:04 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Oct7.165430.12840@seq.uncwil.edu> hunnicu@seq.uncwil.edu (jeff hunnicutt) writes:
>Does anyone know if the Todd Rundgren album "Back to the Bars"
>is available on cd? If so do you have the catalog # and any other
>info? Thanks.

The Bose Express Music catalog lists it as in print on Rhino. They
only identify it by their own (BOSE) catalog number, not the label's.

Since you seem to be a fan, perhaps you can answer this. There's an old
Utopia song whose verses begin with a recurring "Caravan". I can't find
a song called Caravan, so I assume it must have some other name.
Any clues?



-- 
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From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Neil Young's New CD
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:46:22 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

peteg@sequent.com (Pete Gibson) writes:
>If the music that turns up on `Harvest Moon' is the same as what I saw Neil
>perform solo acoustic this past January, then expect a laid-back, acoustic-
>dominated, country-flavored album.  My initial impression was that the music
>was quite good, but the lyrics were a bit trite and contrived.  

Not unlike the original, in other words. Will be be treated to a clone
of the treacly strings in "A Man Needs A Maid?". I guess that the older
CD-buying public is where it's at. Pity, too - I thought the stuff on
Arc/Weld was some of the freshest music I'd heard from Neil in ages. 
Still - he has every right to do exactly whateverthehell he wants. Who
knows? Maybe he'll go for a redo of "Trans" someday [with, let's say,
The Orb doing the mixing]. "I need a unit/to sample and hold..." indeed.
One of the things that I liked so much about NY came from the era when
every new album was a consumer crapshoot [Presto! Neil's a Reaganista
rockabilly guy! Whack! Brainfrying feedback! Zip! Folk rock!].

--
I've never had much real control over things. The music of pianos, for example,
is the dead world where I loved the machine of my small freedoms, one of the 
crowd in his best clothes despite the weather, the Eastern snow like the 
distinct sound of pianos over the airfield. The music lifts and swells.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: bamn@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Subject: Re: Will X-Ray machines damage CD's?
Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC)
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:10:00 EDT

In article <1687EA6FA.ISTRE-A@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, istre@ricevm1.rice.edu writes:
> This weekend, I will be flying to Chicago and want to take my portable
> CD player and some CD's on the plane to listen to during the flight.
> I have heard that X-Ray machines used at the airports will damage CD's.
> Can anyone out there tell me if this is true or not?
>  
> Thanks in advance for your responses.
> -Mitch-
there is no reason why an x-ray beam should damage 
your CD's. Maybe if it is extremely high intensity
(which it is'nt) and actually heats it up!
naren
chemical engr.
yale university
===uos 
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From: msengup@eos.ncsu.edu (MAITREYA  SENGUPTA)
Subject: Re: Help on song in Listerine Commercial---Please!
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:03:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.010819.13508@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, nwchritton@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Badass Gremlin) writes:
|> I want the name of the song and the artists for the Listerine commecial.
|> 
|> I don't know who it is, and would like to get the cd for it.
|> 
|> Anyone know who it is?
|> 
|> It have the "tarzan" yell in it.
|> 
|> Thanks all,
|> -Neil


	As Far as I can remember, the Listerine ad jingle is based on the song
'Tarzan Boy' by a group called 'Baltimora'. 

	This song was on the British charts (Top Twenty) for quite a while in 
the early-mid 80's, but I don't know if it was ever popular in the US. So if 
you can't find it on CD anywhere in the US and are *really* desperate to get
hold of it, try some British mail order source or something.

Regards;

Maitreya (hope that helps) Sengupta.

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From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:42:32 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <t7hp93b@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>> I challenge you to find *any* references of Bangs' to "punk rock" in
>> Creem by or before '73.  If you do, I'll send you an issue of Bomp that I
>> bought in '79 that still has the Police bumper sticker intact.  Plus, you
>> like Devo, right?  I'll send you a Devo bootleg album that I bought in
>> '80. 
>
>You're too easy, man:


Hey, uh, Lazlo, if you don't want that Devo bootleg, I'll be happy
to take it off your hands.



-- 
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From: gkishida@sloth.eng.uci.edu (Gregg Kishida)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Aliens ate my Buick (on cd) - The Flat Earth ?
Summary: available
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:54:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.2ADCA510.20084
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Irvine


 totb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeremy York) writes:
>Does anyone know if this Thomas Dolby release is available on cd?  I
>
>jeremy@stat.cmu.edu

Yes, it's available.  If you want a copy, let me know and I'll get the 
price.  Also, on a related note, has anyone seen a copy of Thomas Dolby's
"The Flat Earth" on disc?  My vinyl is getting a bit worn, and it seems
that no one locally can get this disc.
Thanks.

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From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:44:33 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1687A13FD7.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>I thought the MC5 were primarily a late-'60s band. My point is that if
>the term didn't exist when the band was around, then it shouldn't apply.

Oh, you're right.  We should go back to calling all pre-Elvis rock'n'roll
"race music".




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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd - When The Tigers Broke Free
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:29:38 GMT

davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) writes:

>        By the way, the label on which that record was pressed was "Celluloid."
>This was well before the "Celluloid Records" ads started showing up in trade
>magazines, so I assume they aren't the same outfit.  (Either that, or they're
>awfully stupid to use the name they used on their bootlegs!)  Did this
>"Celluloid" put out any other bootlegs?

The Celluloid that folded a year or so ago which had lots of Bill Laswell
and Material releases supposedly bootlegged Throbbing Gristle's 1st lp,
and I think that some of the other re-releases may have been unauthorized. 
Does anyone know who wa behind that label? For some reason I sort of suspect
Georgio Gomelesky had something to do with it. 

  - malcolm  
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