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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Why GUS != synth (longish)(was: Re: Questions for GUS owners!!!)
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:53:44 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

pja@lk-hp-10.hut.fi (Petri Juhani Jarre) writes:

>Waveforms in ROM are not called presets. Usually synth sounds are not
>raw waveforms from memory. Combination of presets is usually called a
>multi(setup) or performance or whatever depending on the manufacturer.

>In a digital synth it's typical to have 1-4 DCOs (Digitally Controlled
>Oscillators) which can play ROM waveforms. These waveforms are run
>through DCAs (amplifiers) and DCFs (filters).  Throw in modulation
>capabilities, like envelope generators for DCAs and DCFs, LFO (Low
>Frequency Osc) for DCOs and DCFs. A setting of these parameters is
>called a preset, which is usually stored in RAM.

Hang on a minute, this sounds like the old Curtis ElectroMusic chip set
your describing. These were analogue oscillators which used true FM to
get the sounds. The digital part was merely digitally controlling the pitch
of whatever oscillator you were running. There was no wavetable per se.
This stuff went out with the Ark. It's no more than a digitally controlled
analogue synth with real (unstable :-) ) analogue oscillators.

A crude wavetable synth is to take a table stored in ROM (say a sine table)
and feed it into another table (say another sine) to give a sine^2 waveform
or a sine^-1 table and get a triangle wave out. If you can write to either
or both tables, you can do whatever you like. If you can sample to one of
those tables (or both) then the world's your oyster as far as synthesising
is concerned.
Of course nobody would build one like the above, most modern synths use
DSPs to do all the digital filtering and waveform manipulation so you can't,
without a lot of DSP programming experience get into that side, but you can
get to the basic wavetable side and use whatever has been preprogrammed into
the synth. An Ensoniq EPS16 will do this, sample a sound, chop it down to
a wave (or a number of different waves from different parts of the sample)
add them all together wrt time, add loops and manipulate via the on-board
DSP.

Of course, if you bought a Mac, you were always able to do this - 8 bit though.
...unless it was a Mac 11

Dave

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From: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software for the SB
Reply-To: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:42:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.162529.202982@uctvax.uct.ac.za>, barrylev@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
>Hi all
>
>I'm looking for voice recognition software for the Sound Blaster card.  Please
>point out a FTP site or send via mail.  If you have voice recognition software
>for any other card, give me a shout too.
>
>Thanx.
>
>Cheers,
>Barry.
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Ditto here.  Any info on voice recognition that would work on an SB, no matter
how primitive, would be appreciated.

Alex
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Gravis US Development Kits
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:49:34 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

From Gravis:

From: Advanced Gravis <75300.733@CompuServe.COM>

|Ron,

|Yes we are planning on making a developer kit available for the non-commercial
|programmers. One of our major thrusts at Gravis is to make GUS and its
|supporting products available at an economic price. A release and cost have not
|been established yet but the cost will be very reasonable.

|P.S.
|I will be off-line from Oct. 17 until Oct. 27 for a much needed vacation. I'll
|try to reply to the expected large pile of messages as quickly as possible .





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From: gridlock@cats.ucsc.edu (Will Gridweed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Apparent PAS16 failure ... any others?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 00:49:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
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sherman@ecadsr.enet.dec.com (My name is...) writes:

[description of problems/attempts to fix deleted]

>                      DMA   IRQ
>	PAS16 (SB)    1     5
>	PAS16         1     2
>	Scanner       3     3

	The documentation that I received with my pas16 clearly stated that
the sb and the 16 must be on different irqs and dma's. Also, irq 2 isn't
a good choice as it's often used by video/hard drive/whatever. Try taking out
the scanner, and setting like so:

PAS16(sb) dma 1 irq 5
PAS16     dma 3 irq 7

The conflict with irq 7/lpt1 shouldn't be a problem most of the time if
you're careful. If that works, then try it with the scanner back in...

-Will
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From: swkgohw@nuscc.nus.sg (Goh Winston (Mr))
Subject: sb16=roland!!
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:47:52 GMT

Well met Grey Bard,

I'd be a little skeptical about this.  From reliable sources here in
Singapore, I've heard that a earlier this year, Creative tried to get
Roland to license them the technology to inlcude LAPC compatibility in
their card, but it seems that Roland adamantly refused!!

					Sir Launcelot Du Lake

p.s anyway, I'll probably know tommorrow when I go down to Informatics'
92

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From: schles@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (The Skateboard Dude)
Subject: Re: Scream Tracker 3??
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:20:21 GMT

Yeah I had the same problem with unreal...I have a Pionex (made by Fountain) 386/33
4MB RAM, Stacker, Dos 5.0, TSENG-comp et400 1024x768x256, 160mb hdd

Fill me in...Phil

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From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:28:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.171112.14657@lclark.edu> harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison) writes:
>From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
>Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
>Date: 12 Oct 92 17:11:12 GMT
>In article <Bw0H0K.835@news.udel.edu> jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch) writes:
>>
>>OK, hang on a sec...  The PAS16 has a soundblaster built on-board?
>>Does this mean that the PAS not only has built-in 16bit/44Mhz rec/play,
>>but will also do perfect SB emulation??
>>
>>Then WHAT is all the fuss about Gravis?  
>>Do tell!    
>
>If all you are interested in is SB emulation, then go for the PAS 16. 
>Just keep in mind that when developers start releasing stuff for the
>Gravis, you will still be stuck with SB emulation.  A lot of people keep
>focusing on the SB emulation.  That's NOT what the Ultrasound is all
>about.  It is not supposed to be just another SB clone, but the next
>generation in soundcards (in that price range.)  I'm sure the SB will be
>around for a long time, but will you be satisifyed with that, or will you
>want more?
>
>As for the extra daughterboards and raising the price, all I have to say
>is "so".  I currently don't need SCSI support.  I will eventually get a
>CD-ROM drive, but until then, I don't need SCSI support on my soundcard. 
>And when I do, I've heard that you can use other interfaces beside the one
>from Gravis.  Same with 16 bit recording.  I would like it, but I don't
>need it.  And in the long run, I would rather pay more if it comes to
>that, than be stuck with yesterdays technology. 
>

What's so great about the GUS? 

- The GUS has *32* sample channels (as opposed to the PAS & SB Pro's 2) wich 
  can be used all at the same time, both for recording and playing

- The GUS has up to 1 MB of Audio RAM, which will free up system memory and 
  speed up operations

- In adition, of course, all the features that the other boards also got, 
  but the GUS offers at a LOWER PRICE!

That's what all the fuzz is about!


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From: morgan@dl5000.bc.edu (Morgan Stair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GRAVIS ULTRASOUND has shipped to Canada -> ships to US in two weeks
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:08:47 GMT
	<56418@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College


   I have ordered from Telemart and they will ship to me on OCTOBER 22nd, they
   told me the 5th when I ordered.  I do not know if this is because I ordered
   late and my board will be in the next shipment.

   Michele

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Would someone please post some phone numbers [8-)
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From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta)
Subject: Re: Demos?????????????
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 03:00:06 GMT

ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/msdos/demos

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From: chrisr@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Ringe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GRAVIS ULTRASOUND has shipped to Canada -> ships to US in two we
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 15:45:37 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

?jt@hoops.cc.purdue.edu (Andrew Thomas) writes:

- In article <1992Oct5.234032.9319@epas.toronto.edu>, gkirikos@epas.utoronto.ca
- |> Hello,
- |>
- |> I called Advanced Gravis this afternoon, and was told that the card
- |> has officially been released in Canada (as of Friday), and is due to
- |> ship to the US in two weeks. A press release was made on Friday, and
- |> the person I spoke to said that they'll try to post it on Compuserve
- |> (hopefully someone will capture the message and post it in this newsgroup)
- |>
- |> At last, the long wait is over!!!
- |>
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- |> | George Kirikos                   Internet: gkirikos@epas.utoronto.ca
- |> | Toronto, Canada                 Telephone: (416) 537-1756
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-
- The wait may be over for you lucky Canadians, but not yet for us US folks.
- Any idea why they are waiting 2 weeks to ship to the US?
-
- Andy Thomas
- ajt@mentor.cc.purdue.du

Probably for the same reason we had to wait a heck of a long time for the Supra
Modems... DOC/CSA approval, or in the US case FCC/??? approval...


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From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Questions for GUS owners!!!
Date: 9 Oct 1992 18:18:23 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca

In article <1992Oct7.215227.7414@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach) writes:
>
>O.K., you lucky people, I need some info, and since you all
>seem excited, maybe you can answer some questions for me!
>
>1. Did anyone buy the additional MIDI connection kit? If so,
>   how does it work?

Nope. Is the midi kit out yet in fact? Or will it be awhile like the
daughterboards?

>
>2. What is the SoundBlaster emulation like? (I did read
>   Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting's post, BTW)

Some games sound better, most sound the same, some sound worst (or
sounds different). I'm having problems with Links386 Pro and will
contact Gravis for help. The doc (or the readme, only talked about
Links386. So maybe the software was written before Pro came out).

Some have said that games run slower with the SB TSR than a true SB. But
I have a 33mhz 486 and games runs just fine. But we won't need the TSR
when new games supports GUS.

And as game writers have already said that they will be writing games
that make use of this new Wavetable Synthesis technology and 32 digital
audio voice, games written for GUS will sound a lot better (just listen
to the MIDIDEMO program) and the current games I have is running fine
anyways.
>
>3. Are you satisfied? Anything it doesn't do that it should?
>
Read my other posting for my general (high praises) impression. :)

My only complaint is with all software manufacturers. You have to read
the README file. I installed the Windows 3.1 driver and it wasn't
working correctly until I read the readme file which said that I have to
replace the midimap config file manually. The readme file was a batch
file so it's no hassle cause I just run it. Well, I guess it's not much
of a complaint since they have to do it this way, a readme file to add
the last minute touches before shipping without having to re manufacture
the whole shipment again. And all software is like this so....

Otherwise, you have to go to your local computer store to hear the
MIDIDEMO. It plays all sorts of midi song files and they really bring
out the digital quality of this card. Use headphone so that you can hear
the details and filter out the distractions from the noises around the
store. It was like the first time I heard a CD player. The clarity and
the sounds you never hear of from your favorite songs that you used to
hear on tapes. That's how I'd compare the Ultrasound with the rest of
the current generation soundcards (Sound Blaster Pro, Adlib, Pro Audio
Spectrum....etc), FM stereo vs digital sound. Now all we need is more
programs to support this new technology. :)

Thomas
A happy GUS owner.... :)

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From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:39:17 GMT

>PAS can be taken home today and it can sample 16bit 44KHz today. Here
>neither applies to GUS (haven't really checked its local existence).

Well, a couple of weeks... You just *might* find it worth your while to wait 
that long... 


>Are there release dates for the daughterboards? Reliable release
>dates? Bad joke, I know.

Release "date" for 16-bit daughterboard will be around Christmas, according 
to Gravis.


>
>>   The PAS has a couple of DACs.  The GUS has DACs
>>   (how many?  beats me.) 
>
>One or two. It has only stereo output, right? Why use more than one
>DAC per analog channel? Adding 32 numbers with scaling and using 1 DAC
>with multiplexer (2 DACs and no mpx) is by far less expensive than
>using 32 DACs and digitally controlled 32 channel analog mixer.

I has 4, hasn't it?

>>   Buying the 16-bit recording 
>>   daughtercard for the GUS would still probably not raise the total cost
>>   higher than the cost of the PAS-16. 
>
>No money can buy this 16bit ADC daughterboard today, right?

Nope, but about $150 in about two months can... The reason for this 
relatively high price is, according to Gravis, this wonderful DAC they're 
gonna use on it...


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From: ylam@fraser.sfu.ca (Yau Ha Elina Lam)
Subject: Re: MIDI connect. of GUS ?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:25:28 GMT

apeltone@smtplink.oulu.fi (Antti Peltonen) writes:

>Hello all happy (?) GUS owners,

>I did read from PC-Week that MIDI-kit of GUS is "optional".

>Do you have any idea what that means?

>Is it some weird GUS to MIDI -cable or what?

>Have you looked to connectors of the card and specs?
 
   According to what I gathered from the specs, MIDI is built-in on the 
Ultrasound, via the joystick port (ala Sound Blaster), but you need a 
special "midi connector box" which plugs into the joyport and gives you
a midi-in, a midi-out and a midi-thru.  You need to buy this connector
from gravis.
From: lipelis@nubis.rutgers.edu (leo Lipelis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Analog to Digital for LPTx
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:34:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

thanos@uni2a.unige.ch writes:

>Hello everybody,
>Does anyone know how to construct an analog to digital convertor
>for the parallel port of my PC...
>I.e. 8-bit...
>I want to be able to sample sounds.
>Please post me any nice cirquits you know that do this.
>(Just the ADC, the amplifier will be external)

>Thanks in advance, 

>Dimitris.

I second this.  I'd like the same kind of information.  If you could please
send me email, besides the follow-up.  Thank you.

Leo.
lipelis@nubis.rutgers.edu
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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: GUS = SB-PRO
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:46:38 GMT

In article <gting.719223964@sfu.ca> gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting) writes:
>From: gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting)
>Subject: Re: GUS = SB-PRO
>Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:26:04 GMT

>markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:

>>In article <rock.719096127@kaa> rock@kaa.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jan-Oliver Rock) writes:
>>>From: rock@kaa.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jan-Oliver Rock)
>>>Subject: GUS = SB-PRO
>>>Date: 14 Oct 92 20:55:27 GMT

>>>Hi Folks!

>>> Does the TSR that comes with the GUS emulate SB-PRO?
>>> 
>>> Someone in the group said DOS modplayers were very slow on his
>>> 386dx-25. Has anyone tried on faster machines, e.g. 386dx-40 or
>>> 486dx/sx-25 ?


>>       I have a 286 16MHz and MODplay 2.19 works like a charm with my GUS 
>>and SBOS loaded normally.  I don't have any speed problems.

>Funny. ModPlay 2.19 runs like a dog on my dx-25 unless I put in the -a
>option meant for 10-12Mhz 286's. Even then, it's still slightly slower
>than on my old SB and the sound quality is nowhere near that of WinMOD with
>the GUS. 


	You should go into the MODPLAY.CFG file and modify the mixing speed 
number.  The normal is 15909.  To have a normal speed, I have to drop it 
down to 8000.  Unfortunatly, you're throwing away some of the sound quality.

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From: gregd@mel1.schbbs (Greg Davis)
Subject: Sound card from DAK
Organization: /mel6/u/gregd/.organization
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:10:19


There is a new sound card being offered through the DAK catalog by BSR.
It's called the Media Master.  Anyone know about it?  It features

1)	16 bit vector-based sampling

2)	8khz to 44.1khz A/D record and playback

3)	128 built-in instruments and sound effects that comform to the 
	Roland GS standard sound canvas.

4)	384K of Ram, Line I/O jacks, microphone input jack

5)	Windows 3.1 MPC compatible

6)	The following bundled software:
	a)	Complete record and playback utilities:
		i)	Digital Audio recorder
		ii)	On-line Sound Mixer
		iii)	Computerized Jukebox
		iv)	audio cd music launcher w/repeat, shuffle play, 
			multi-track programming

	b)	Professional MIDI Kit:
		1)	Midisoft Recording Session with Mentor
		2)	Band in a Box
		3)

The price is $200.00.  If you want Sound Blaster/Ad-Lib compatibility
it costs an extra $50.00.  A midi breakout box costs another $50.00.

The Midisoft Recording Session is a microsoft windows based music editor,
mixer and sequencer.  I am curious if the BSR card is actually make by
another company with the BSR name on it.
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From: jl6p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Josh S Linder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: PAS 16 questions
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:51:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oeqQYxW00Uh_Q4Dokt
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I personally have trouble with my PAS/16 after I knocked it out of a
slot with the power on (oops.)  I think I messed up my stereo channel
(right channel), but I'm not too sure.  As far as software goes, I
really couldn't tell you much.  I'd personally call MV and see what they
say.  Could be a bad piece of software..
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From: hadgraft@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (Roger Hadgraft, Civil staff, ext 4983)
Subject: Re: Trek audioclip package for win3.1 - whoop it up?
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:52:26 GMT

In article <f3mpsdj@lynx.unm.edu> lawson@mdc.com (Jim Lawson) writes:
>
>I just purchased Star Trek Audioclips Volume 1 "The Logical Collection"
>at Egghead software for $32.00. It contains about 2 meg of wave files
>for windows 3.1 and "Whoop it up" for windows to assign those wave
>files to windows programs, system and generic events. You can also order
>another 2 disks of wave files for $20.00 with a coupon in the package.
>
Is "whoop it up" available as shareware for evaluation?

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