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Subject: Problems restoring from 3490E
Date: 28 Sep 92 08:38:01 GMT
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From: Lutz Hamann (Systemprogrammer for VM) Tel. 030/3154-4515
Betreff: Problems restoring from 3490E

Hi Jean,

the open APAR-number is VM49875. I had to apply a local mod (my SE gave
it to me).

   ciao  Lutz
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From:         Leonard Boyle <LENBOYLE@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: cmsvmlib & cmsinst

On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:35:41 EST Jim Ennis said:
>Hello,
>
>  Due to space constraints (lots of 370 mode users) I would like to place
>both the cmsvmlib and cmsinst segments in the same segment at c00-cff.
>Everytime we try to save the cmsvmlib segment (using the instructions
>from the install manual), I get an error message that the memory is inuse
>even though it is not.
>
>Is it possible to place the cmsvmlib segment with another nss in the same
>segment.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

We defined a logical segment called VMLIB which is stored as a member of a
physical segment which also has members for help and ispf. The logical segment
is the name we tell the cms system to use for the cmsinst segment.

The logical segment VMLIB includes the VMLIB library and a few assorted
execs.


In the file CMS7IM PSEG, CMS7IM is a member of segment space CMS7INST, we have::

LSEG VMLIB

In the file VMLIB LSEG we have:

LIBRARY VMLIB
EXEC SYSPROF  EXEC     S (INSTSEG
EXEC DISCARD  EXEC     S (INSTSEG
EXEC EXECUTE  XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC HELPXED  XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC HELP     XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC PARSE    XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC ALL      XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC JOIN     XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC PREFIXX  XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC SPLIT    XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC SPLTJOIN XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC PROFFLST XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC PROFRLST XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC RDRLIST  EXEC     S (INSTSEG
EXEC RECEIVE  XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC TELL     EXEC     S (INSTSEG
EXEC X$FLST$X XEDIT    S (INSTSEG
EXEC FILELIST EXEC     S (INSTSEG


To save the segments I have to ipl cms parm nosprof instseg no
Then acc (noprof

Then do a segment reserve for the segment that you want to use before
you access the mdisks you will need to do the segment build.


I am sure that this is not the most elegant method. But it does work.

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Leonard Boyle  Computing Center             lenboyle@sbccvm.bitnet
SUNY at Stony Brook NY USA 11794-2400       lenboyle@ccvm.sunysb.edu
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From:         Martha McConaghy <URMM@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Migration to VM/ESA
              28 Sep 1992 03:38:19 -0500 from
              <HAMAN.HAMANN@IBMX400-DE.IBMMAIL.CIRCE.FR>

We had similar storage problems when we went from XA 2.1 to ESA 1.0 ESA feat.
I moved the CSL routines into a DCSS and this solved the problem for us.
Those routines take about .5 M out of the user's machine otherwise.

Martha
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:06:46 EDT
From:         Jane Dearing <DEARING@ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
Subject:      Re: cmsvmlib & cmsinst

You could try on your IPL of 190 PARM INSTSEG NO so that the INSTSEG
does not get attached.  Then you should be able to save CMSVMLIB.

Jane Dearing
VM Technical Support
Humber College
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From:         "(Bill Bormann)" <ad2@EXPERT.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:      cmsvmlib & cmsinst
              30 Sep 1992 11:35:41 EST <VMESA-L%92093010445878@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU>

>  Due to space constraints (lots of 370 mode users) I would like to place
>both the cmsvmlib and cmsinst segments in the same segment at c00-cff.
>Everytime we try to save the cmsvmlib segment (using the instructions
>from the install manual), I get an error message that the memory is inuse
>even though it is not.

>Is it possible to place the cmsvmlib segment with another nss in the same
>segment.

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jim Ennis - Senior Systems Programmer  |    UCF Postmaster
>University of Central Florida          |    JIM@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU
>PO BOX 25000                           |    (407) 823-2713
>Orlando, FL 32816                      |    "Servo/Crow in 92"

Sure, we do this here, though our approach may be a bit different than
yours.  We made cmsinst and cmsvmlib logical segments in that exact
same range.  The sequence of commands we enter to resave the cmsinst
logical segment are the following:

SAMPNSS CMSINST
* Creates a skeleton segment
SEGMENT RELEASE CMSVMLIB
* CMSVMLIB is the name of the physical segment
* The release frees up the already reserved segment
SEGMENT RESERVE CMSVMLIB
* This step is probably not necessary, as SEGGEN seems to do
* a SEGMENT RESERVE before saving the segment
seggen cmsvmlib pseg * system segid * ( gen map

and then we resave the CMS shared segment, since SYSTEM SEGID lives on
the S disk.

Bill Bormann

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From:         HAMAN.HAMANN@IBMX400-DE.IBMMAIL.CIRCE.FR
Subject:      overlapping segments

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From: Lutz Hamann (Systemprogrammer for VM) Tel. 030/3154-4515
Betreff: overlapping segments


  Hi Jim,

you can save the segment using 'I CMS PARM INSTSEG NO' or the command
'SEGMENT PURGE CMSINST'. If there are any other segments on C00 use
'Q SEGMENT' to determine it.
Hearing 'Start me up' from the Rolling Stones I send greetings to all
networkers of the list

        ciao  Lutz
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:55:55 EDT
From:         Quick j <JBARRY@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Special characters in userids?

Thanks for the ID idea.  We will look at it when we analyze implementation.  I
confess we havn't started yet but definitely intend to.  How about some letter
(Z) instead of $.

                                          John Barry
                                          JBARRY@URIACC.URI.EDU
                                          (401) 792-2611
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:21:49 EDT
From:         Bill Williams <CMS2@ETSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Special characters in userids?

On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:59:54 EDT Fran Hensler said:
>We've been using a dollar sign ($) in some userids for 10 years.  We have
>had problems with two users who were communicating with a UNIX based node.
>The userid got broken at some gateway.

We use '$' in *many* userids -- it's a perfectly valid character.  The
UNIX gateways that break on it are not behaving very well -- they are
(apparently) using a character in a string (the userid) in it's "pattern
matching / editing" role and that is something that just should not be
done!  (Dollar sign in UNIX pattern matching is 'end-of-line'.)

And as they say in unix...
echo flames >/dev/null
 ---------------------------------------
   Bill Williams -- ETSU Systems Support
    East
    Tennessee             (615) 929-6853
    State
    University        <CMS2@ETSU.BITNET>
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From:         Guy Nash <GPNASH@OCC.BITNET>
Subject:      VM/ESA 1.1 and ESM (HCPRPI)
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Has anyone using VM/ESA 1.1 got an example HCPRPI routine written to talk to
a home grown External Security Manager?

Yeah..I know I'm supposed to buy RACF or VM/secure..but in my humble shop
most security products are overkill for what they cost.

Basically, (or assemblely? :) what I'm looking for is an example HCPRPI that
would allow a service machine to connect to the *RPI service and go thru the
motions of asking for authorization. Idealy the HCPRPI code would not abend
if no ESM was available...possibly going back to the supplied routines habits
of doing next to nothing.


Thanks for any help or suggestions..

Guy Nash              +1 313 540-1574   GPNASH@OCC
Systems Programmer
Oakland Community College
Bloomfield Hills, Mi, USA 48304
From: JIM@UCF1VM.BITNET (Jim Ennis)
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Subject: cmsvmlib & cmsinst
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:35:41 GMT
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Hello,

  Due to space constraints (lots of 370 mode users) I would like to place
both the cmsvmlib and cmsinst segments in the same segment at c00-cff.
Everytime we try to save the cmsvmlib segment (using the instructions
from the install manual), I get an error message that the memory is inuse
even though it is not.

Is it possible to place the cmsvmlib segment with another nss in the same
segment.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Ennis - Senior Systems Programmer  |    UCF Postmaster
University of Central Florida          |    JIM@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU
PO BOX 25000                           |    (407) 823-2713
Orlando, FL 32816                      |    "Servo/Crow in 92"
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:08:36 EDT
From:         Fran Hensler <FJH@SRU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Special characters in userids?

We have a program that automatically generates userids for students.  The
userid consists of the 3 initials plus the last 4 digits of the social
security number (FJH5626).  If a user has no middle initial we substitute
with a dollar sign (F$H5626).  The initial password is the 6 digits of their
birthdate (032542).  This scheme allows us to assign userids and passwords
and not have to send a notification to the user.  Also, in 11 years we have
never generated a duplicate userid, although it could possibly happen.

Since the use of '$' in userids is causing a problem for email users, I am
soliciting suggestions on what character may be a safe replacement for the '$'.

Francis J. Hensler, CDP                     BITNET: FJH@SRU
Software Support Specialist                 Phone: (412) 738-2033
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:06:32 G+3
From:         "Saad M. Al-Harthi (02) 695-2211" <CCA3407@SAKAAU03.BITNET>
Subject:      VSAM Question

Hello All,
   We have MVS/ESA 4.2 and Assembler H v2.0.
 I'm trying to read a VSAM user catalog and then extract the
cluster names and put them on a separate file, same as IDCAMS
LISTCAT command then after that I want to check if the cluster
names is a KSDS or ESDS structure if so I want to check CI and
number of extent for that cluster, I've used the SHOWCAT and SHOWCB
Macros but with out any sucesseded .

The following diagram shows the process:

open UCAT --> look for cluster names --> Put them on output file -->
check KSDS,ESDS -->yes > Check CI and NEXT values

What I've did is as follows
I do LISTCAT using IDCAMS services and put the output on a seq. file
I do read that file and extract the cluster names  and create
a JCL statments then I wrote another program to take these statements
and open each file and check it.
 So I had three subroutines :
  1 - Read the output of IDCAMS LISTCAT CLUSTER and extract the cluster
      names and put them on a sequancial file.
      //EXTRACT   PROC  MEM=MEM
      //STEP1     EXEC  PGM=MYPROG,REGION=1024K
      //INFILE    DD    DSN=&MEM.,DISP=SHR
      //OUTFILE   DD    SYSOUT=*
      //          PEND
      //FILE1    EXEC EXTRACT,MEM=clustername1
      //FILE1    EXEC EXTRACT,MEM=clustername2
        ..        ..      ..
  and so on
    On the program iitself I have defined the DDname AS
      INFILE    ACB  ..,DDNAME=INFILE,...
I tryed  to use dynamic allocation but I failed to do so.

any help will be apreatuated.

Thankx in advanced.

Saad Al-Harthi.
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From:         "Ananjev, Andrew / IKI." <AANANJEV@ESOC1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 370 reference
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>Sorry if this is a silly question, but is there a good source for system
>calls on an IBM370?  We've been using the ASSIST macros, but I am also
>interested in knowing what the actual methods are (ie: how do I *really*
>output to the screen or get a character :)

  If your operation system is VM/CMS it is very convenient to study how
  do virtual machine  *realy* makes input and output. VM emulates all
  I/O operations as it described in S-370 principles of operation.

  CMS has a few levels to organize I/O for users program, but as it
  runs in (virtual) supervisor mode all privilege operations including
  SIO are available to programmer. So you can write your own CCW and
  run it. If you only interesting what CMS does, you can trace SIOs and
  SVCs.

  CMS also helps user to handle interrupts from various (virtual)
  devices in case I/O operation have finished normally or with errors.
  If you do not wish any interference (such as interrupt handler) you
  can run your program in standalone mode (use 3CARD LOADER file with
  object deck of your program for ipl-ing from virtual card reader).

  Now a few words about entering characters from terminal. There are
  two cases. First is when CP emulates a typewriter device as x'009'
  or x'01f' virtual console. In this case CMS performs more or less
  ordinary I/O operations using SIOs.

  The second way to run I/O at the terminal is so called fullscreen
  method which use DIAGNOSE calls of CP. It is impossible for CMS to
  use it's console in fullscreen mode directly by using SIOs, because
  x'009' or x'01f' is emulated typewriter. In this case CMS or any
  other program running at virtual machine needs an assistance of CP.
  It can use DIAGNOSE to "attract attention" and to "ask" CP to perform
  various functions, to start CCWs on discs, tapes and terminals and so
  on.

  But in both cases (typewriter and fullscreen) S-370 do not support
  character-by-character way of input/output (for any devices). All
  I/O activity starts after pressing "ENTER" which produces an interrupt
  Then the whole line, screen or only modified fields of the screen
  will be entered.

  If you *realy* need to realize character-by-character method, I think
  it is possible to do using CCWs with PCI flag. But I think it is
  better not to do without severe necessity.

Best regards, Andrew Ananjev, Head of software support group.
Space Research Institute (IKI), Moscow. Phone: +7-095-333-24-02
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Subject: IBM 3750 question
From: rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet)
Date: 2 Oct 92 06:24:05 GMT
Organization: Household UNIX, Auckland, New Zealand
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[ Article crossposted from junk ]
[ Author was  ]
[ Posted on 1 Oct 92 19:03:20 GMT ]

A friend of mine has recently bought an IBM 3750 Communications Controller.
Apparently it multiplexes the i/o of a number of terminals, and sends the
resulting packets down a phone line to the mainframe. In this instance, the
3750 was in Auckland and the computer was somewhere in Australia.

All the date stamps we can find on it say it was made in 1980, but the design
looks a bit older than that.

BTW, this thing is BIG, like 1.7m*0.7m*0.8m...

So, does anyone know anything about these things? We're not planning on getting
it going, as getting three phase power into a residential home is a bit tricky
:-)

With te mux came 15 IBM 3782 terminals (think I got the number right - lost the
piece of paper :-( )... Anybody know if these are ascii/ansi compatable? Or do
they use ebcdic or something equally arcane?

Any information of any sort would be appreciated!

Oh, in case anyone's wondering, all this, plus 2 ITT terminals and 2 Memorex
terminals, cos NZ$50 (about US$25).

--
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