From: nazim@odin.unomaha.edu (The Unknown)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:38:10 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

camh@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Hasan Cam) writes:

>In article <1992Jul22.140034.11278@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, ahmet@eecg.toronto.edu (Ahmet Parlakbilek) writes:
>...
>[stuff deleted]
>> 
>> 12) Is there any electronic mail list for discussions related to Turkish
>> people/culture etc.?
>> 
>> Yes, there are plenty. One that's very famous is TEL, Turkish Electronic
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> List. The language used in communication is mostly Turkish and there is
>  ^^^^^^
>I believe that the net TSAA-L is at least as famous as TEL, if not
>more famous. Why?!!! Don't you remember that some subcribers of ICTS-L
>(the old name of TSAA-L) have been advertised(!) in daily newspapers
>such as Cumhuriyet(!) 2 years ago?  Don't you remember that a
>congressman from SHP asked the Ministry of  Education (or government)
>what the subscribers of ICTS-L had done?

        So what?
        
>> no restriction about the topics discussed. To subscribe, one should send
>> a mail with the body "sub tel your_name your_family_name" to 
>> tel@uscvm.bitnet. Other lists can be summarized (not complete) as follows:
>> 
>> list name   topics discussed    mail address          command for subscription
>> ---------   -----------------   ----------------      ------------------------
>> tel         everything          listserv@uscvm.bitnet  sub tel name last_name
>> ptt-l       everything-u      listserv@liverpool.ac.uk sun ptt-l name last_name
>> trknws-l    news                listserv@uscvm.bitnet  sub trknws-l name l_name
>> yunus       turkish tex users   listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub yunus name last_name
>> tsaa-l      religion, everyth. listserv@purccvm.bitnet sub tsaa-l name l_name
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>This is a BIASED description for TSAA-L. Although many of
>the subscribers of TSAA-L do discuss Islamic religion, it
>doesn't give right anybody to say that the net has dedicated
>particularly to the religious topics. The bottomline is that
>any subscriber of TSAA-L can post any message on it.

        I don't know about you, but I subscribed to the tsaa-l and the
        only topic I saw was religios!, it was boring...
        
>Hasan Cam
>List owner of TSAA-L

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>TSAA-L stands for Turkish Students Assistance Association List
>--------------------------------------------------------------

        Be more precise, maybe you should change the name of the group and
        name it GIHHS (gradute of imam hatip high-schools).
        
>   To join in the TSAA-L send an E-mail message to:

>         LISTSERV@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU    (or LISTSERV@PURCCVM.BITNET)

>   with this line in the message body:

>                        SUB TSAA-L your name

>   Note that "your name" means your proper name with two words and 
>not your userid.  LISTSERV@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU will extract your userid 
>from the message header.

>   If you are unfamiliar with lists and LISTSERV send the following to
>   receive an index of help information:

>                        INDEX HELPINFO

>   You may cancel your subscription to TSAA-L at any time by sending:

>                        SIGNOFF TSAA-L

        That's the only right thing to do and I did it!
        
>   Note that commands are sent to LISTSERV and not TSAA-L.  If you
>   send them to the list you will have the pleasure of knowing everyone
>   subscribed to the net is reading them.

>   Owner is:     camh@ecn.purdue.edu 


>Hasan Cam
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>                   GENEL ACIKLAMALAR


>  TSAA-L'ye "uyelik" ve "uyelikten cikmak" herkese aciktir.
>Yani, herhangi bir sahis istedigi zaman uye olabilir ve uyelikten
>cikabilir. Uye olan sahis istedigi mesaji tsaa-l'ye gonderebilir.
>TSAA-L'in editoru yoktur. Dolayisiyla, tsaa-l'ye gonderilen mesaj 
>sadece ve sadece bu mesaji gonderen sahsin gorusunu yansitmaktadir.

>   Bazen mesajlarin dagitim sebekesindeki ve/veya bazi uyelerin kendi 
>sistemlerindeki arizalarindan dolayi mesajlar bana geri donmektedir. 
>Bu hata mesajlarinin olusma sebebinin uyenin kendi hatasi oldugunu tesbit 
>ettigimde (yani gateway veya uyenin bulundugu sistemin hatasi degilse), 
>LISTSERV'deki trafigi azaltmak ve benim mailbox'in dolmasini onlemek 
>gayesiyle hata masajina sebeb olan uyeyi gecici olarak  tsaa-l'den 
>cikariyorum. Benim tarafimdan tsaa-l'den  cikarildiginizi gosteren   
>bir mesaji LISTSERV'den aldiginiz takdirde, lutfen tsaa'ye tekrar uye 
>olunuz. (Eger hata mesajlarina kendiniz sebeb olmussaniz, lutfen bu 
>hatayi giderecek tedbirleri bir an once aliniz.)

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> 
>1)  TSAA-L'e uye olabilmek icin  LISTSERV'in asagidaki iki adresinden 
>    birisine

>      i)   listserv@purccvm.bitnet
>      ii)  listserv@vm.cc.purdue.edu

>    su komutu gonderiniz:

>        sub tsaa-l <adiniz soyadiniz>

>   <adiniz soyadiniz> 'in oldugu yere kendi isim ve soyadinizi 
>   veya isim ve soyadi olarak kullanmak istediginiz en az 
>   iki tane kelime yaziniz.


>2)  TSAA-L'in uyeliginden cikmak istediginizde, LISTSERV'in yukaridaki iki
>    adresinden birisine asagidaki komutu gonderiniz:

>       signoff tsaa-l

>3) Eger hem tsaa'ye uye olarak devam etmek hem de
>   tsaa-l'nin listserv'inin size herhangi bir mesaj gondermesini
>   istemiyorsaniz (mesela, bir yere tatile gittigizde mailbox'iniza
>   herhangi bir mesajin gelmemesinin cesitli faydalari olabilir),
>   yukaridaki listserv adreslerinden birisine asagidaki komutu 
>   gonderiniz:

>      set tsaa-l nomail

>   Tekrar tsaa-l'den mail alabilmek icin yukaridaki listserv 
>   adreslerinden birisine asagidaki komutu gonderiniz:

>      set tsaa-l mail


>4) Eger TSAA'ye uye oldugunuzun baska birisi tarafindan bilinmesini
>   istemiyorsaniz, yukaridaki listserv adreslerinden birisine
>   asagidaki komutu gonderiniz.


>      set  tsaa-l conceal


>5) Eger TSAA  uyelerinin isim ve adres listesini elde etmek istiyorsaniz,
>   yukaridaki listserv adreslerinden birisine  asagidaki komutu
>   gonderiniz. (Bu isim ve adres listesini alabilmek icin TSAA'ye uye
>   olmaniz gerekmiyor).

>      rev tsaa-l


>6)  TSAA-L'ye yazi  gonderebilmek  icin asagidaki iki adresten 
>    birisini kullaniniz.

>     i)  tsaa-l@purccvm.bitnet
>     ii) tsaa-l@vm.cc.purdue.edu

>    
>7)  TSAA-L'ye yazi gonderirken kullandiginiz sistemin
>   adresi tsaa'ye uye oldugunuz adres ile ayni olmalidir. Aksi
>   takdirde, LISTSERV sizi tsaa-l uyesi olarak gormeyecek
>   ve mesajinizi reddecektir.


>    TSAA ile ilgili karsilastiginiz herhangi bir zorlugu
>bana bildirmenizden memnunluk duyacagimi ve elimden gelen yardimi
>gostermeye hazir oldugumu vurgulamak istiyorum.


>Saygi ve sevgilerimle
>Hasan Cam
>(List owner of TSAA)
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