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From: mack@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gregg Mack ( Sun ))
Subject: Re: UHHH, Good God Y'all
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:40:59 GMT

dharvey@lemond.harvey.com (Dave "Hill" Harvey) writes:

>I will say this because I know people depend on my example to learn how to
>become better cyclists, better people, bikists-uber-automobilia, and to
>exude that warm, tan glow of cyclismo. This is in the advice category:
>Never Harvey Bark inside the Public Library. This is no joke. Take it from
>me. I found out the hard way. If an old lady on crutches is between you
>and the bathroom door, walk around her! Remember, she will never know what
>it feels like to pump first over the crest of the hill with the others
>strung out behind her like the beads sliding off a broken necklace.

Dave,

  Do your bead necklaces break often?  ;-)

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Organization: Doctoral student, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 1992 21:34:35 -0500 
From: "William S. Young" <wy0b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: frameset for sale

Trek Pro-Series frameset for sale, 56.5cm C-C, 56cm top-tube. Typical
Trek semi-relaxed geometery. Reynolds 531c frame, fork, and stays.
Chromed drop-outs. Also includes headset and bottom bracket. Never
crashed and in good condition. $225 plus shipping. If interested call
412-363-5268 or send email wy0b@andrew.cmu.edu
From: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM (John Fox - SunExpress IR)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Mountain bikes in $1500-$2700 range >opi
Date: 5 Nov 1992 14:51:14 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: hooksett.east.sun.com

In article 115416@watson.ibm.com, yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.164831.980@schbbs.mot.com> A10377@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael Duke) writes:
>>I'm planning to buy a new mtb bike and it has been awhile since
>>I purchased my Ritchey in 1987. I haven't decided if I will buy
>>another Ritchey or not, so I'm open to any and all suggestions
>>from anyone who's recently purchased a bike or spent some time
>>riding one in this price range, $1500-$2700.
>
>Am I alone here or do others also think that bike prices in the 
>$3000 dollar range are ludicrous? 
>
>C'mon, guys we're talking about a bike.  Remember, two wheels,
>some tubing, and it does not weigh very much.  They'd have to
>make the bike out of gold or platinum before you'd catch me
>paying $3000 for a bicycle. 
>
>
>-- 
> Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
> From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state


Personally, I think 3K is too much for a mountain bike. I just don't enjoy
mtb'ing enough. I certainly don't feel justified in claiming it's too
much for *anyone* to pay tho.
I'd could justify paying perhaps $1500 for a road bike, because I do
enjoy that activity and therefore, for me, the cost for that enjoyment
is acceptable. Much more, and I probably would feel it was too much -
much less, and I would feel I was cheating myself.
Everyone makes their own cost/benefit analysis each time we pull out the
old checkbook. Whatever floats your boat. If the buyer enjoys mountain
biking that much and feels will benefit from purchasing a bike in that
price range, who are we to question it?


John



Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:24:53 -0500 
From: Christopher Herbert Carroll <cc5i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: MTB:wheels,cogs,misc. NEEDED


I bought a Mountain bike frame/fork set and I have been shopping around
for components.  I have found many things already (thanks: Chris, Doug,
Claire...), but I am still looking for the following:
 
-front and rear hubs, 36 holes (rear CASETTE style prefered)
-cogs/freewheel (13 x 26T prefered)
-~80 spokes (14gauge prefered)
-2x MTB rims (extra strong and black prefered)
-rim tape, extra tubes, frame pump...
    ...if you have some of these things already built into a wheel
       I am still interested.
-MTB chain
-handlebar ends (alum., long L-bends w/o clamp type attachment prefered)
-Brake cable stuff (cable housing caps, cable end crimping caps, those
transperent plastic tubes that cover the exposed cable running over the
frame
-Cool Tool multi-tool
-Cateye halogen headlight
 
If you have any of these things, new or used, still in the package or
taken off your bike when you upgraded last, please contact me with a
list of parts and prices.  
 
Look around in your closet and see if there are any random bike parts
hiding in there and maybe you could turn them into CASH.
 
Thanks,  Chris
 
 

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: waters@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Jim Waters)
Subject: Re: Carrying Bikes on Cars
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:42:57 GMT

rpimente@es.com (Richard Pimentel) writes:

>	3. Yakima does not sell replacement parts for the rack or the 
>	   attachments. (At least none of the retailers here in Salt Lake
>	   City do.) Lose or break a lock? Tough luck! You have to buy
>	   a package of four. Want to buy a long tray to rplace your short
>	   one? Tough! You have to buy the whole mounting system.

I've seen the trays on sale at at least one local bike shop, so I
think dealers can get the trays alone if they want; I don't know about
other spare parts, though.  And when I went shopping for racks, the
dealer claimed that you could get additional locks which take the same
key as your originals by mailing to Yakima.  I don't know, however,
how many you have to buy or how much they cost.

--Jim Waters
  waters@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:45:41 -0500 
From: Christopher Herbert Carroll <cc5i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: MTB:wheels,cogs,misc. NEEDED

I bought a Mountain bike frame/fork set and I have been shopping around
for components.  I have found many things already (thanks: Chris, Doug,
Claire...), but I am still looking for the following:
 
-front and rear hubs, 36 holes (rear CASETTE style prefered)
-cogs/freewheel (13 x 26T prefered)
-~80 spokes (14gauge prefered)
-2x MTB rims (extra strong and black prefered)
-rim tape, extra tubes, frame pump...
    ...if you have some of these things already built into a wheel
       I am still interested.
-MTB chain
-handlebar ends (alum., long L-bends w/o clamp type attachment prefered)
-Cool Tool multi-tool
-Cateye halogen headlight

If you have any of these things, new or used, still in the package or
taken off your bike when you upgraded last, please contact me with a
list of parts and prices.  
 
Look around in your closet and see if there are any random bike parts
hiding in there and maybe you could turn them into CASH.
 
Thanks,  Chris
 
 
 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: rpimente@es.com (Richard Pimentel)
Subject: Re: Carrying Bikes on Cars
Reply-To: rpimente@es.com (Richard Pimentel)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 21:47:51 GMT

In article <2930253356.0.wk01155@worldlink.com>, "Paul Esposito Jr." <wk01155@worldlink.com> writes:
|> My personal favorite is the Yakima roof rack. The advantages are numerous:
|> 

	I have a Yakima roof rack as well, but I am not nearly as happy with
	it as Paul. Here is why:

	1. It howls with wind turbulence at freeway speeds. The only way to 
	   shut the thing up is to pop for the Yakima fairing which ~$100 and 
	   provides them with free advertising.

	2. I have their fork mounting rack as well as their "Loadmaster"
	   mountian bike rack.

		a. The fork attachment has a LOT of play in it due to poor
		   quality machining. They want more for the mount than a 
		   decent sealed bottom bracket and there is a hell of a lot
		   more going on with the bottom bracket. Seems greedy to me.

		b. The Loadmaster rack was fine as long as you only drive
		   on paved roads. But I live in Utah and go to the desert
		   a lot to ride my mtn. bike. Utah's desert roads are not
		   pretty and the bikes do a lot of lateral dancing in the 
		   rack. This has resulted in bolt holes at key places 
		   elongating. The result is a lot of play and bikes that 
		   slop around.

	3. Yakima does not sell replacement parts for the rack or the 
	   attachments. (At least none of the retailers here in Salt Lake
	   City do.) Lose or break a lock? Tough luck! You have to buy
	   a package of four. Want to buy a long tray to rplace your short
	   one? Tough! You have to buy the whole mounting system.


	4. Yakima stuff is grossly over priced. I could site numerous
	   examples.


	In summary, while roof racks are definitely easier on bikes than
	trunk racks, they are VERY expensive. Yakima, in particular, seems
	very mercenary in their marketing and pricing. 

	IHMO!

	Richard Pimentel
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: FOR SALE:  TT Wheelset
Date: 8 Nov 1992 03:06:06 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

Timetrial / Tri Wheelset For Sale

I'm out of the timetrial business, so I'd like to get rid of these
wheels.  They have under 500 miles on them and are in perfect condition.

Mistral M19 Aero Tubulars -- 315g rims
24-hole Campagnolo Nuovo Record Hubs, 126mm (6-7s) rear
Front is spoked (24) 15ga radial, brass nips
Rear is spoked (24) 15ga 3x drive side, radial non-drive

I bought the hubs new in 1990 and this is their first build.
I have no skewers for them.

Obviously, these are race-wheels, not for general fun.  They'll
take a pound off your bike if you are working with the average pair
of high-quality clinchers or heavy (GP4 or similar) tubies.

My 59cm Superbe-Pro Klein Quantum was 19lbs with this wheelset.

I know these are not your every-day for-sale item, so I am prepared
to negotiate price.

Asking $175, shipped COD packed in a wheelbox.


Paul Southworth                    |           ftp ftp.css.itd.umich.edu
(Not speaking for)                 |         Political Archives in /poli
Information Technology Division    |     Writable incoming directory on:
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  <Representing myself.  Everything I say is for educational use only.>
From: harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Mountain bikes in $1500-$2700 range >opinions
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:46:50 GMT
Reply-To: harold@cs.uq.oz.au

In <BxCrnG.9p2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:

>yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>>Also, to the intelligent bike thief (if there is such an animal) the
>>brand new $3000 bike is more attractive than the $700 bike or the $100
>>klunker.
>>What is it that you see in this theoretical $3000 bike?  Is it beauty?
>>Ease of use? Quality?  Speed?  

>It's neat.

This leads one to consider applying for a research grant in the field
of applied gadgetology with special interest in the 'gotta have' and
'money is no object' syndromes.

I remember reading a signature from someone once (can't quite remember who :-)
that went:

Ride Bike

Andrew
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Mountain bikes in $1500-$2700 range >opinions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:42:52 GMT

yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>Also, to the intelligent bike thief (if there is such an animal) the
>brand new $3000 bike is more attractive than the $700 bike or the $100
>klunker.
>What is it that you see in this theoretical $3000 bike?  Is it beauty?
>Ease of use? Quality?  Speed?  

It's neat.
-Terry
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer)
Subject: Re: Comments on TWT Pedals Wanted
Keywords: Trashing my SPDs because of knee problems
Reply-To: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:32:57 GMT

tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:

>Time has a new mountain bike pedal out, the TMT, nobody seems to know
>much about it yet but they have a picture of it in the December issue
>of Bicycling.

From the blurb in Bicyling:

"Time's $240 Extreme Titan-Carbon Mountain Technology pedals ($150 w/
steel axles)..."

My impression of the TMT is that it's a mtn. version of the TWT.  The
cleat & clip mechanism look very similar to TWT, but the pedal body
has flares on each side that "eliminate shoe [side-to-side] rocking",
my biggest complaint about the TWT system.  The TMT pedal's clip
center may be slightly further from the crank arm than the TWT due to
the inboard flare, judging (guessing) purely from the photo.  The
pedals hang at an upright angle for easy clip-in & have a nonslip foot
platform on the reverse side, definite improvements over the TWT.
They feature 10 degress of free-floating rotational.

The shoes cost $175 for the "fancy" ones, $99 for the more plebian
lace-closure.

BTW, does anyone know for sure if there are shoes other than those
made by Time that are compatible with the TWT cleat?

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From: jskaggs@slate.mines.colorado.edu (JoJo was a man...)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: ATB's in $1500-$2700 range < ACTUAL opinion
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:36:29 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

In article <1992Nov9.225343.4958@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> mpb@nomad.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael Batchelder) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.164831.980@schbbs.mot.com>, A10377@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael Duke) writes:
>|> I'm planning to buy a new mtb bike and it has been awhile since
>|> I purchased my Ritchey in 1987. I haven't decided if I will buy
>|> another Ritchey or not, so I'm open to any and all suggestions
>|> from anyone who's recently purchased a bike or spent some time
>|> riding one in this price range, $1500-$2700.
>|> 
>|> Thanks in advance,
>|> Michael
>
>Here's an actual opinion/answer to your post; I've only seen one
>other (William Lloyd), amid the debate over $$$...  William mentioned
>aluminum and titanium models; here's my plug for good ol' cro-mo steel.
>If you like the way steel feels, I think the best steel frame I've
>ever seen comes from a little company (doesn't this sound cute...)
>in Newhall, CA, called Curtlo--a semi-one-man outfit.
>
>Michael Batchelder
>mpb@gravi.jpl.nasa.gov
	There's a little bike shop in Boulder, Co.  Boulder Bicycles, to be
exact.  They make the most elegant and functional full suspension MTB I've
ever seen.  A friend of mine rides one now, and he can't stop raving about
it.  There's an ad for it (the Boulder Intrepid)  in this month's Mtn. Bike
Action .  Check it out.

-Joe
 jskaggs@slate.Mines.Colorado.Edu

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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: gregorh@csd-d-2.Stanford.EDU (Gregor Hohpe)
Subject: Re: Cannondale MTB ripped off
Originator: gregorh@csd-d-2.Stanford.EDU
Keywords: theft 
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organizatoin
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:48:57 GMT

People asked for more details on the stolen

>
>   CANNONDALE M700, '92 model, 20", blue, Deore LX equipped
>

Here we go: Serial number 52005924587 (on inner side of left seatstay,
no need to turn it upside down). Everything is brand new (< 300 miles),
except the fork (Pepperoni), which is somewhat scratched due to 'safe' 
locking...
The rear reflector of the left pedal is off (I guess nobody will bother
to replace it). It was registered, but i guess all the stickers are the
first things they remove, Reg. No. 3125693.

  Greg

-------------------------------------------
Gregor Hohpe
(415)497-2043
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From: kc@core.rose.hp.com (Kurt Chan)
Subject: Re: UHHH, Good God Y'all
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:38:48 GMT
Organization: HP, Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Dave,

I now have a new reason to read rec.bicycles. 

I was wondering if you could share with us any prayers or invocations to
some other parts of your anatomy that we mortals might mutter as a pre-ride
ritual?

Kurt "still in tears" Chan
kc@hprnd.core.hp.com
From: lestat@cats.ucsc.edu (Lestat de Lioncourt)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Haro Extreme - Need Info
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:12:32 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



 I am debating purchasing a Haro Extreme, I like the way the bike
feels and looks, but I am looking to hear from anyone who has one,
and rides one a lot.

-Tom Fox
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: MERCKX, is this a good deal?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:49:56 GMT

<FDHEIENO@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>Hi all.
>A friend that has too little time for cycling has priced his Merckx and I'd
>like your feed back on it.
>58cm slx
>campy Croce' de Une group with delta brakes
>Cinelli stem
>Fiamme bars
>time criterium pedals (brand new)
>clincher wheels with bullseye hubs and mavic open rims and matrix tires
>tubular wheels with cda hubs and gp4 rims and conti sprinter tires
>3 chain rings;53,42&39
>2 freewheels
>This bike has not been riden for two years and has been kept in an air
>conditioned room.  His asking price is $950.  Oh, the frame is four years old.
Unless the frame is really scratched up this sounds like a pretty good deal
to me.  Anew bike with those components would be a hell of alot more, I would
guess around three grand.  Check out the frame carefully though for crash
damage or other problems.
-Terry
From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: _crosswords_ is back!
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:38:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: novell.1992Nov5.173845.17348
Distribution: na
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

After a brief hiatus, _crosswords_ is back!  We've made some changes,
including the following:

* Single issues are now $2.50.  Two-issue subscriptions are $4.00
  We were actually losing money on each issue ($0.72 for printing,
  $0.29+ for mailing).  Make any checks payable to Mark Chandler.
  For existing readers, these rates will take effect when their
  subscriptions run out.

* The size of the type has been reduced somewhat to allow us to
  fit more text in the same space (this helps keep costs down).

* _crosswords_ has two new Contributing Editors: Eric House and
  Joshua Putnam.

* The publishing schedule will be adjusted to include more timely
  coverage of trade shows, and to align product reviews with their
  appropriate season (i.e., no winter gear reviews in June).

Questions, comments, etc. to chandler@wc.novell.com.



--
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chandler@wc.novell.com      Walnut Creek, CA
==================================================================
     The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
From: jtyl@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BJ)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Mountain bikes in $1500-$2700 range >opinions
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bx8zzw.6Fn@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes...
>yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov4.164831.980@schbbs.mot.com> A10377@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael Duke) writes:

>>>I'm planning to buy a new mtb bike.....
>>>....in this price range, $1500-$2700.

>>Am I alone here or do others also think that bike prices in the 
>>$3000 dollar range are ludicrous?  

>I think you're alone.  Most of us are so far gone that we just wish we HAD
>$3000 to spend on a bike.

I'll second that opinion!  I wish I have 3 grand to spend on a bike.
Then again, I don't know how I would feel when I crash my $3,000 bike
the first time.  I would think that crashing on a $3000 bike is a much
more emotionally traumatic experience than crashing a $700 bike.
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From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Carrying Bikes on Cars
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:47:26 GMT
Keywords: racks

latornel@unixg.ubc.ca (Doug Latornell) writes:
>	1) Are roof racks in fact a better way of carrying bikes or
>           should we just stick to the trunk rack mounted on the
>           Golf's hatchback?

I always had problems with scratching paint on a trunk mounted rack.  Maybe
they're better designed now.  I also never felt like the thing was really
secured on the car.

>	3) From advertising, etc. I have identified 3 popular roof
>           rack brands: Terzo, Thule, and Yakima.  What is your
>           opinion of these brands?  Are there other makes worth
>           looking for?

I bought a Yakima because it seemed to be the best design and construction.
These things are expensive though, the only place I've seen Yakima's mail
order is from Excel.
-Terry
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Dave Weaver)
Subject: FLITE for sale
Organization: SPS
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:47:01 GMT

I have a used Flite Titanium Saddle which is still in great 
condition. It is black (non-perforated) and has never been
crashed or scuffed. (and it weighs 190g)

$45 (which includes shipping) takes it. 

Reply through e-mail if you want it.
  
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Motorola ASIC / Chandler, AZ  |  _`\<,_   Red Mountain   
weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com    | (*)/ (*)  Cycling Club

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From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Carrying Bikes on Cars
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:25:26 GMT

rpimente@es.com (Richard Pimentel) writes:
>In article <2930253356.0.wk01155@worldlink.com>, "Paul Esposito Jr." <wk01155@worldlink.com> writes:
>	I have a Yakima roof rack as well, but I am not nearly as happy with
>	it as Paul. Here is why:
>	1. It howls with wind turbulence at freeway speeds. The only way to 
>	   shut the thing up is to pop for the Yakima fairing which ~$100 and 
>	   provides them with free advertising.
>	4. Yakima stuff is grossly over priced. I could site numerous
Very true!  Although I like my Yakima rack I couldn't beleive they want $100
for a piece of plastic fairing that says Yakima on it.  What a ripoff!
-Terry