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From: edklein@well.sf.ca.us (Ed Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Identify origin af sample used in SNOGs "Corporate Slave"
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:00:07 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

In article <1992Oct16.122503.13270@odin.diku.dk> ballerup@diku.dk (Per Goetterup) writes:
>As the subject says... I'd like to know from where the sample below
>was taken:
>
>"There is no America, there is no democracy, there is only IBM and
>ITT, Union Carbide and Exxon"
>
>I feel I've seen a movie with something similar, but I'm far from
>sure.
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>	- Per.
>
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>| mind to corrolate all its contents...              - H.P. Lovecraft, 1926 - |
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>"...Hear the sound of laceration, the suffocating coaxing of crowds..."
>                                        ('The Colloseum Crash', A Split-Second)
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I'm pretty sure the movie was "Network", and that line was uttered by Ned
Beatty.  You must have heard it in the Consolidated song "America Number
One".

--------
Ed Klein
edklein@well.sf.ca.us
From: steveh@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Steven Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Tear Garden
Keywords: Ogre Tear Garden
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:55:37 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT, Melbourne, Australia

ogd@selway.umt.edu (ozymandias G desiderata) writes:


>	flesh chamber 9 states that Ogre has never done vocals for Tear
>Garden. Au contraire, mon frere! If you listen rilly rilly hard to the
>third part of "You and Me and Rainbows" on _Tired Eyes Slowly Burning_,
>he's there, doing the Ogre bit in all its glory. Actually, I find that
>whole song to be humorously overdone, but cute in its way.

I'm pretty sure that it's Mr Ka-Spel doing the ogre-type vocals on "You and
Me and Rainbows", and not Nivek himself. There is no mention of credit to
Orge on the TESB packaging.

An Offering of Uncertainty from..... Who gives a fuck anyway....
-- 
   Steven Hayes                                    |  steveh@rmit.edu.au
   Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT)  |  +61 3 660-2693
From: C_S02175@APPSTATE.EDU (*Steven Eugene Benedict)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: re: NIN suck boot
Date: 17 Oct 1992 02:55:26 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: alf.appstate.edu
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Okay, most of you have probably never run across this, but for those 
who might, here's some info on the bootleg NIN CD5 of Suck.
It has a white cover that pictures a girl drawn in black who is
apparently doing what the title suggests, sucking.
In the bottom right corner, it says "Made in Canada"
The bottom left corner says "NIN Suck"
The back of the CD case has a stamp of NIN and
a number stamped in red.
The CD itself is labeled as Halo 00, a lame attempt to make us
think it might be legit.  Two tracks are on the CD:
	1) Suck:  This version sounds to me like it was
	               recorded live from the Lolla show.
	               Whoever mastered the sound did a really
	               good job, its very clear and hardly no 
	               audience noise at all except for some very 
	               faint applause at the very end.  Sound
	               overall is excellent.  I like this version a lot...
	               almost better than any I've heard, 
	               especially the one on Broken.
	               It should be noted that those of you who like 
	               the more raw sound of Broken's Suck might
	               not think this version is as good.
	2)Supernaut:  A Black Sabbath cover with a really cool
	                     sample starting the track off.  This track
	                     may well be from the Lolla show too, although
	                     I don't remember it when I saw the show.
	                     This track is good but would be a lot better
	                     if it had the same sound quality as the first.
	                     The sound is still good, just too much bass.

Overall, if you like NIN, get this CD if you can find it.  It is a very
worthwhile bootleg.  I paid $11 for it at Criminal Records in Atlanta Ga.

"I'm Jesus Christ on ecstacy"--Suck

Later,
Steve 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Coil... WAS Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:39:08 GMT

In <1992Oct7.154401.26844@vela.acs.oakland.edu> mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu (The Panicked Hamster) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.042608.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>>In article <BvqL1w.72w@nic.umass.edu>, torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox) writes:
>>> 	Wait -- Coil is homosexual? There are maybe 4 or 5 guys in Coil.
>>> Is that *all* of them or just a few or the main dude (the Throbbing
>>> Gristle guy)? Dammit, he's cool but I forgot his name. At any rate, cool
>>> group,  I only have "Love's Secret Domain" which has a cool cover and is
>>> difficult to listen to.
>>4 or 5? Last I saw, it was only Peter Christopherson (good ol' Sleazy of TG)
>>and John Balance.
>>And both are indeed gay.
>The inside of the LSD pamphlet includes a photograph of 4 or 5 guys... one in
>a hooded robe, with a few shorthaired punks standing around him.  Is that the
>band, or did a two-person group just grab three more people and say "Here,
>stand still for a photo..."

I think it's more likely that the guys with them are additional musicians
that worked on the album, but I don't have my copy with me to check.
Balance and Sleazy are indeed the only core members of Coil, and carry
the name with them.

>>Difficult to listen to? Well... I dunno about that.
>As an industrial newbie, I'd say it takes getting used to.

I dunno, excepting "Windowpane", it seemed to go beyond the usual
"industrial" stuff.  Not very noise oriented.  I think it would
be a lot easier to adjust to than, for instance, _Scatology_ by
the "same" band.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
 For every mad scientist who's had a convenient thunderstorm just on the night
 his Great Work is finished and lying on the slab, there have been dozens whove
 sat around aimlesly under the peaceful stars while Igor clocks up the overtime
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: nwc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Einstuerzende Neubauten)
Subject: Re: EN mentioned in "Northern Exposure"
Reply-To: nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Beaver Consulting Co.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:15:54 GMT

Blixa Bargeld is EN's frontman. He does stuff with a lot of other people as
well. KMFDM have a track called "Bargeld" on Money.
-- 
	N.W. Choe - nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu
	5454 South Shore Drive #318, Chicago, Illinois 60615
	Beaver Consulting Co. Chicago
	312.702.4605
From: ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward Pak)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: COP SHOOT COP
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:04:07 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   Yeah, Cop ShooT Cop are probably one of the few true "industrial"
bands around.  True industrial as in Eistuerzende and stuff like Hafler
Trio. 
    One thing that pisses me off is that Consumer's Revolt was reissued
with a different cover and extra songs!!
    They had an EP (4-tracks) out before Consumers Revolt.  It might
have been like a single for discontected 666, but not sure. I DON't have
it.  
    Has anyone seen them live/ I heard they're pretty intense.  
Also, THEY were the first TWO bassist band.... NOT ned's Atomic Dustbin!!!
From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: KMFDM at tThe Edge
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:48:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw8F4y.522
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Is $9 worth it?  Are you nuts?  I paid about twice that 
to see them in Chicago, and they live here!  They were
so much fun to see live.  The guitars were turned up a 
bit high, but other than that, it was a great show and
I had a lot of fun.  You might want to be a bit cautious
if you're homophobic.  En Esch has a habit of performing 
in very short skirts with g-strings and fishnets beneath.
It bothered 3 of my male friends, who are a bit narrow 
minded in that aspect.
	  
	   

				     Ramona
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Jesus Was Way Cool
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:48:53 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>Wondering a bit...who did the song "Jesus Was Way Cool" (or similar title)?
>Thanks for any help!

King Missle off of 'Mystical Shit'.

Hardly industrial.

-- 

+-| Paul Lewis |--| Jonestown: WLVR 91.3fm  Monday 11pm-1am |-+-------------+
|  'I'd love to turn you on.'                  -The Beatles   |             |
|  'You should be with us, feeling like we do  -Perry Farrell |     1       |
|   like you love to, but never will again.'                  |    2 3      |
|  'The struggle between God and man breaks    -Kazantzakis   |             |
|   out in everyone.'                                         | Renaissance |       |
From: flesh@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: New Ministry Material
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:27:19 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Ministry recently recieved a call from a big fan in Lawrence, Kansas, Who 
happened to be William S. Burroughs. After a long talk with Al 
Jourgenson, They agreed a collaberation was a must. Ministry will hook up 
with Burroughs in late September to record a new version of "Just One 
Fix," as well as an accompanying video. The revamped version will consist 
of spoken word by Burroughs and is expected to have a lot more noise than 
the original

Taken from CMJ Minefield.


__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ flesh@cyberden.uucp ]
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: $5 Bill Redacted:
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:21:42 GMT

In article <92281.113518RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET>
Robert Haskins <RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET> writes:
 
>
>RE the Joy Division joke.  Au contraire!  I think it's very funny!!
>Every time it rears its ugly head, I collapse with laughter.  Paroxisms
>of laughter, I tell you!
>
>But even so, I miss all the rave reviews. (And yes, yes, I know how
>to get to alt.rave -- whatever.)
>
>Bob
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I have all the Joy Division lyrics. Send me your snail mail address.
 
 
--Eric
 
thelookthefeelthesoundofmyvoicethelookthefeelthesoundofmyvoicethelookthe
feelthesoundofmyvoice   eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  thelookthefeelthesound
ofmyvoice    Detroit, Michigan  USA   thelookthefellthesoundofmyvoicethe
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:11677 rec.music.dementia:1627 rec.music.folk:6900
From: loris@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.dementia,rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED. (Rec.Music.De
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:11:08 GMT
 <1992Oct9.041644.14205@wam.umd.edu> <4021@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>
Followup-To: rec.music.industrial
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

>>Not to be a wet blanket, but...
>>
>>WOULD YOU PLEASE WATCH THE CROSSPOSTING?!?!?!?
>>
>>While the discussion is very interesting it should not be coming to r.m.dementia
>>since it has no relation to that group's stated interest.  Please, people, try 
>>to keep things in their proper order...
>>
>>Kevin Barth
>>barth@wam.umd.edu
>>all responsible flames are welcome...
> 
> I must agree with Kevin after having to wade through approximately 70 articles
> that were NOT applicable to rec.music.dementia.  
> 
> please,  try to change the post list when you reply to this discussion.
> 
> thank you.
> 
> ---scooby
> 
pardon moi, but i do think that this thread has relevance to r.m.dementia....
the purpose of this thread was to get suggestions on musicians that are 
queer or queer positive...you can't tell me that r.m.d. doesn't have any 
relevance...i've several people reply to me personally that read my 
message on r.m.d.  ....glancing thru several articles, i've seen MANY 
artists mentioned on r.m.d. that are considered les/bi/gay or lesbigay
postive....

Lori
"who tied your panties in a knot??"
From: SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET (Steve W Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Trent Reznor rumor/Chicago
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:28:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: HARPERVM.92289.082804SHILL
Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067

I'm going to see the World Domination show tonight (Thursday) in Chicago
at Metro.  The bands are Sky Cries Mary, Low Pop Suicide, and Shriekback.
Oh, and Luc Van Acker.  Rumors are flying that both Chris Connelly and
Trent Reznor are going to show up and play with Low Pop Suicide.  I'll
post after the show if this actually happens.  (I don't really care, I
just want to see Shriekback.)
_steve
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: cwalsh@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Craig Walsh)
Subject: Cop Shoot Cop
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:00:21 GMT

I was in a record shop the other day when I heard a song called 'Suck City'.
The name of the band was Cop Shoot Cop.
To me this sounded vaguely like the Wiseblood ep, so I checked out the 
album and Thirlwell was listed as doing samples and tapes.

I have been a Thirlwell fan for a while but I have never heard of this
group before. Could someone please post some more info on them.

Craig Walsh.
cwalsh@orac.efs.mq.edu.au
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 05:29:29 -0400 
From: Mark Choi <mc4c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Nurse With Wound

The new Nurse With Wound CD is out. It's called "Sugarfish Drink." It's
pretty funny, not very consistent, moody, surreal - NWW as usual.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: negativquestions
Keywords: logic gap
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:47:54 GMT

bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU (Todd Bradley) writes:
>>>enough) "The Weatherman".  He is an insult to the gay commun-
>>>ity, also.                 ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^
>> ^^^  ^^^^
>>
>>Would you care to elaborate on how a person manages
>>to be an insult to a community?

>Because
>David is so reluctant to come out of the closet, he is an
>insult to the gay community.

Do you know him? Do you know he is gay? I'm stunned at the statement and 
wonder if you could explain more of the logic behind this. 

Part of what bothers me is your assumption that the "gay community" is
insulted. Are you an elected spokesperson? I think the gay community is 
probably as diverse in it's opinions as the straight community, or the 
community we all belong to. To assume you speak what others believe is
likely to be a leap of faith assuming everyone thinks like you. I have gay 
friends who like the Weatherman and aren't insulted by him. Aren't they 
part of the gay community? Aren't the gays who are still in the closet also
a part of the gay community? Aren't you in fact insulting the gay community
by assuming you speak on their behalf? 

I, as a member of the net community am insulted by your assumptions. And 
I assume that therefore you are an insult to the net community... 

 - malcolm@wrs.com
From: danm@watson.ibm.com (Dan McCabe)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Coil... WAS Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:04:58 GMT
Reply-To: danm@grumpy.watson.ibm.com (Dan McCabe)
Organization: IBM TJ Watson Research
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM


In article <1992Oct7.154401.26844@vela.acs.oakland.edu>,
mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu (The Panicked Hamster) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct7.042608.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
|> >In article <BvqL1w.72w@nic.umass.edu>, torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu
(Random Tox) writes:
|> >> I only have "Love's Secret Domain" which has a cool cover and is
|> >> difficult to listen to.
|> 
|> >Difficult to listen to? Well... I dunno about that.
|> 
|> As an industrial newbie, I'd say it takes getting used to.

Boy, if you think that LSD is difficult listening, you should try Unnatural
History, Horse Rotorvator, or Gold Is The Metal. These make LSD sound
downright accessible. Of course, they are ALL great!

Cheers,
danm
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz)
Subject: Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:19:02 GMT

In <2AD46238.26061@news.service.uci.edu> dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:

>In article <1aurijINNdjc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> wxs@po.CWRU.Edu (W.charles Simciak) writes:
>>
>>Wish I could confirm this but according to a friend of mine who read a les/gay
>>magazine published in New York, the following people were interviewed in it
>>proclaiming their sexuality.
>>
>>John Bon Jovi -"My looks are for the girls, my bod is for the boys."

I find *this a bit hard to believe without more defintite references.


>>Axle Rose  - though in Rolling Stone he speaks as a hetero with no ill towards
>>             homosexuals.
>	EH?  You are saying redneck gay-basher Axl is gay???  Yeah, right, pal.

No ill will?  Guess agaian.  Axl is a major 'phobe, but he is working on it
with his therapist.

>>Annie Lennox (bi)
>>Boy George - "America knows a drag queen when it sees one."
>>Depeche Mode - all of them
>	Utter bullshit.  They are all heterosexual.

Bzzzzt.  Wrong answer.  Boy George is openly bisexual.  I don't know about
Annie, but at least some of Depeche Mode are.


>>Morrisey - well, actually no one is really sure though I've heard him referred
>>           to as a Celibate Homosexual Vegitarian. :)
>	My guess is bi.

Wrong again!

>	Who gives a shit anyway...?

I do.  And obviously the person who started this thread and the people 
who are continuing it do as well.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
From: johnerik@ifi.uio.no (John-Erik Bye Johansen)
Subject: Re: Nin Inch Nails - Nothing
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:28:28 GMT
Originator: johnerik@skinneggi.ifi.uio.no


> Yep, the new album was mentioned in the latest issue of Vox in the review
> of _Broken_ (which they weren't very impressed by). The title *was* given,
> but I've forgotten what it was :-( It was definitely omething to do with
> spiralling downwards though ("In A Downwards Spiral", "Downwards Spiral",
> "Spiral Downwards"?), as the reviewer was trying to make funnies about it
> referring to the quality of the music.
> 

The Downward Spiral

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com>
Subject: Re: Blade Runner
X-Xxdate: Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:32:32 GMT
Organization: Tandem, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:25:41 GMT

In article <9210151344.aa09710@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> ,
jhall@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>I just bought the soundtrack to Blade Runner, it is an orchestral
version,
>is there a true SOUND TRACk available that is exactly like the movie?
>The music was composed by Vangelis.

I posted this to r.m.cd a few days ago:

This is a followup to the thread of a week or so ago regarding the
Bladerunner soundtrack's availability.  A couple of people wanted me to
verify something I said - so here it goes:

From Details (Oct. '92) _Blade Runner_ pg. 113

Kate Haber (partner of Blade Runner's producer Michael Deeley) said - 
"Ridley had Vangelis do the music.  But during production, Ridley would
send Vangelis - who lived in Europe -  completed scenes of the film to
score.  Every time Vangelis would finish scoring a scene, Ridley would
change something in the scene, knocking off the timing for the music. 
Vangelis would have to redo everything.  That pissed him off so much, he
eventually refused to release the soundtrack commercially as an album."

So there you have it.  A reasonable way of explaining away the lack of a
Blade Runner soundtrack.  (BTW, someone in the Netherlands told me that
they have seen it as a 'mid price' CD.  Contact "carlog@estec.esa.nl" for
more info.)

Also, I'm not too interested in getting the soundtrack and am only
providing this bit o' info for any who might want more details.
-----------------------------------
email: Brady_David@Tandem.Com

Remember, David Brady IS Lee Harvey!
From: nc313060@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Who needs TOP 40?
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:34:10 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


	I have a lot on my mind today, music-wise. Like one of my friends 
told me this weekend that Ministry has just invented a new kind of music.
Hold onto your hats - it's called Industrial Metal. What is the big deal to
have to place music in categories INSIDE of categories? Isn't it enough to 
just say that they are industrial?

	Don't misunderstand - I love industrial, techno, grunge, but I don't
think it's necessary to create a smaller group. The people at the college I
attend don't understand what kind of music I listen to. Most of the time, 
they look at me like I just landed here from a spaceship! And God forbid
that they hear any of it. One of my friends asked me to make him a tape (of
techno music), and after listening to it, he told me that it was "cool, but
they weren't enough words.". I couldn't believe that he was so TOP 40
oriented that he couldn't make out the feelings swirling around in the noise
of techno. I was disappointed.

	Another person told me that "Thieves" by Ministry wasn't fast 
enough. Needless to say, he was a heavy metal knothead with the intelligence
of a pea.

	I have decided to keep my musical taste to myself, and let those 
countless numbers of Debbie Gibson look-alikes drown it the sea of normality
they have chosen to wade around in.


	I think I'm done bitching now.

	Oh, by the way, anyone near Pittsburgh,Pa should check out Metropol
on Thursdays. This week, a DJ named Thrash is coming down from Cleveland
to throw a Pseudo-rave party. Music starts at 11 p.m..


As always,
		"Throw me into a cell....
		 Swallow your pride,
		 and lick my mind....."
			-Ministry

Stephani Nichelle
From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: sid and nancy samples
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:10:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Her name is Chloe Webb.  She played a singer on the TV show "China
Beach and most recently she was in a movie with Bob Hoskins and 
Denzel (ooh, baby) Washington called "Heart Condition".


				       Ramona
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