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From: meor@ecs.comm.mot.com (MEOR)
Subject: THIS IS A TEST : DO NOT READ 
Organization: Motorola Penang
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:27:11 GMT

Testing testing .... from Meor
From: Dave.Alderson@newcastle.ac.uk (D. Alderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Accies
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:42:03 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU


>Question: What was going through Terry Butchers head when he recklessly
>challenged Bobby Bar, broke his leg and finished his career? I heard
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm not going to comment on the rest of this post, but Terry's career certainly
isn't finished. He's currently doing a grand job for the Lads.
>the crack from the stand. Accies cannot afford sophisticated medical
>treatment.
Incidentally, I've got an Accies scarf. Now, where the hell did it come from???
Dave.


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: R0664@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Newspaper Column
Organization: CSU
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:21:26 GMT

After the discussion about the letter that appeared in one of the Chicago
papers, I would like to share the following with USA football fans (with
hopefully other netters finding it of interest).
 
Cleveland Plain Dealer, Jan. 27, 1993. page 5G (No permission asked for)
(It's a fairly long article so I'll just give the highlights)
 
"This space is usually reserved for essays about horse racing.  Not today.
I'm giving the ponies the week off to scribble about my passion - soccer.
I know, it's foriegn, a game played by guys with first names like
Gianluigi, Matthias and Ian, and some guys with just one name (remember Pele?)
but soccer, or football if you want to be chic, draws me towards it as if it
was a powerful magnet."  {Pretty good so far eh?}
 
"For my shillings and pence, I wasn't about to wait a week for scores in an
airmailed newspaper.  Instead I got a shortwave radio and picked up the
sports report on the BBC newscasts."  "Besides the great skill and endurance
that the players possess, what attracts me to soccer is its international
flavor and some of the remarkable drama that is kicked up worldwide."  {Sounds
like a plea to stay as one group}
 
"If you take a headcount, Denmark might have the greatest fans.  When the
Danes returned to Copenhagen after their upset victory in the European
Championships, they were greeted by a half million people.  The population
of Denmark is five million." {He makes me think of the parties that surely
must have been going on for days}
 
"So, is Atlanta against Toronto really the World Series, or is it merely
the team championship of North America?  Germany versus Argentina is
definately the World Cup of soccer because no matter where the Helmuts
and Sosas play team soccer, they play for the German and Argentine national
teams respectively."  {Nice to see this written by an American journalist}
 
"According to the National Federation of State High Schools Association, the
number of schools with a soccer program has grown from 2,290 in 1971 to
7,025 in 1992."  {Future looks rosy}
 
"While I'm convinced soccer will never catch on professionally in America,
mainly because of the lack of scoring, the game is growing in popularity."
{This was about the most negative part of the article, believe it or not}
 
Richard Cole                   Football: No matter the quality or the
The Urban Center                         nationality, it makes life
Cleveland State University               fun.
Cleveland Ohio 44115 USA         E-Mail: "One-on-One" (G.Michael I belive)
 
 
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From: mxt7690@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: 1982 World Cup question
Reply-To: mxt7690@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:29:42 GMT

The attacking frenchman in the collision was Lacombe
From: eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: The end of the road
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:02:10 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

I'm afraid I must call an end to the Predictions' league. Time simply
isn't available to devote myself to all this updating as well as coming
to terms with the current shortcomings of the famous Glasgow Celtic -
one had to go. Celtic require all my good time and good will to see
them through this difficult period (I left my phone number at Celtic
Park, just in case Liam's looking for some advice :-)).
Oh yes, and I've daytime job too.

Anyway, I gather that it was all just a bit of fun and I hope no one
minds me just leaving things the way they are (besides, I can't find
the latest updated league table - I've really f**ked up there!).

I declare the winner to be James Shaw and the honourable runners up to
be Tracy Haldane and Henry the mild mannered janitor. I also give nice
wee mentions in passing to Keith Franklin, The PARanoid, Stephen
Gilmour and Graeme Cruickshank. I humbly relegate myself into last
place.

Thanks to all who sent predictions in. The predictions came from exotic
places like San Diego, Umea, Strasbourg, Newcastle, Canterbury, Glasgow
and the computer room, Maths Dept, James Clerk Maxwell Building, King's
Buildings Edinburgh.

If anyone else is taking over a predictions' league of a sort, then I'll
make the following predictions for the rest of the season -

Rangers 0 Aberdeen 4
Aberdeen 12 Celtic 12
Aberdeen 8 Rangers 0
Celtic 7 Rangers 1 (McNally og)
Aberdeen 8 Rangers 7 (7 pens)
Celtic 0 Aberdeen 0

Celtic to win all the rest of their games 6-0, except for the Falkirk
matches which they win 8-7.

Aberdeen to win the league, Celtic the Cup. Airdrie to be relegated and
all of their players imprisoned on Devil's Island. Milan to win the 
European Cup and Rangers to be banned from Europe after their accountant
fans go on facist march with Le Pen on day of Marseille game. 

Blackburn to win the league, Bolton the FA Cup. 

Scotland to be pish as always, Gordon Durie to be on the verge of
signing for Rangers for the next 8 years, King's Fountain to win the
Grand National and Superally to win Miss Scotland.


     Yours
                 Gerry
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: GALATASARAY
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:46:59 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

ay00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ALI YILDIRIM) writes:

>In article <1993Jan26.175851.14573@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, mxt7690@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
> writes:
>>I will try one more time : I need information about Galatasaray.

>Galatasaray is the most successful Turkish team in European cups. Their
>biggest success was to play in the semi-finals of the Champions cup 3 years
>ago - I guess. It was eliminated by the Romanian team Steau Bucharest. In the
>current UEFA cup, it was eliminated by AS Roma in the 3rd round.

...after putting out Eintracht Frankfurt in the previous round I should add.

Dave
--
From: ee_d313@king.ac.uk (  Jide)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: 27th January...Old Trafford...Man Utd V Nottm Forest
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:56:26 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.kingston.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

>PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU wrote:
>:       I want to wish good luck to Nottingham Forest.  I don't care about the
>: score much, but a 3-1 score would be good.  But win the game at Old Trafford
>: and don't pay much attention to the score.
>:It's time for United to come down to earth.  They had enough luck already,
>:it's time for their luck to run out; I am too sick of them and I hope 
>:that they won't win the championship for another 26 years.
>:Nottingham is playing well recently.  I hope they beat United.  However,
>: why are they still at the bottom of the table???
>:       I hope you hate United as much as I do.
>:                                                 Panos


What the hell is wrong with you guys? Why won't you just accept that
Manchester United are the best team in the Premier League?
  Good Luck to Nottingham Forrest?? If they had all the luck in the
world, they wouldn't be able to score the woeful, awful and amateurish  
Liverpool defence! 
  The Nottingham F. defenders (like Liverpool's), play
as if their scrotums have been superglued to their thighs. Is the 
combination of Bannister and Clough a good attacking partnership?
  Nottingham F. beating Man. Utd?? At Old Trafford ??? Come back to
reality. 
  Manchester United have upped the gear now and NOTHING, NOONE will 
be able to slow them down.
     Man Utd 5 
    Coventry 0
 
     Man Utd 4
     Spurs   1

     Q.P.R.  1
     Man Utd 3

Does these juggle your memory?

When Nottingham Forrest arrive at Old Trafford, just like the others 
they will taken to pieces.
My prediction for the match :  Man Utd 4
                               Nott F  0


P.S. Watch this space for a complete rundown of the Premier League 
Championship Hopefuls.


--
 Jide O.
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From: zjph90@hou.amoco.com (John Howard)
Subject: Re: Throw Ins
Reply-To: zjph90@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:11:40 GMT

In article 8579@meiko.com, paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee) writes:
>Yesterday (Wednesday 28th January 1993), FIFA announced it's
>intention to replace the throw in with the "Kick in". For people
>in Britain they might have seen Jimmy Hill on Sportsnight ranting
>on about it last night.
>
>What are FIFA on? Some form of drugs? Why don't they leave the
>game alone for a while. This kick in ideal will mean that you
>can get as good as a corner from anywhere on the touch line,
>and hoof the ball into the box even more.
>
>Yawn......

This can't be true ?!!!
Can FIFA do this ? Have they already done it ? Are they accountable to anybody ?

This would be a disaster for the game. It would have a marked impacted on continuity. Matches would
become a succession of set pieces. It would be a lifeline to the likes of Wimbledon.

Please say it's not true !
From: nydec@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Charles Heath)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ############# UK fans, PLEASE GO! ###############
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:29:56 GMT
Organization: University of Westminster

Just a little note on the subject of English soccer being inferior to 
European soccer! Don't make me laugh! If this is the case, then how is
it that England has won more European club trophies than ANY other nation?
Answer that one then! It's hardly surprising, though. The guy who
wrote it (his name escapes me!) supports PSV Eindhoven! Ha Ha Ha!

+-------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
|      Charles Heath      | Manchester United - By far the greatest team ever |
|       -- Chig! --       |  "And it's Man Utd, Man Utd F.C. we're by far the |
| nydec@uk.ac.westminster |    greatest team, the world has ever seen!"       |
|   Feel free to write!   | Man Utd - F.A.Cup, ECWC, League Cup, Prem League? |
+-------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
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From: sid@netcom.com (Sid Dastkar)
Subject: Happy New Chinese Year (4691) to SK Fong at CUHK
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: hk 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:50:09 GMT

(THIS IS FOR SK FONG at Chinese University of HK)

Hi SK:

This is hamid.  I lost your email address.  So
wish you and everyone a very Happ New Year.

Hamid.

PS.  If you read, do let me know.
     sid@netcom.com   (ba793@freenet-in-a.cwru.edu)
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From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: The 'great' Milan?
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:02:34 GMT

These days all the newspapers and soccer-magazines talk (or rather write)
about the so 'fantastic' AC Milan. If you look at their numerical performances,
29 points out of 16 matches, that seems to be true. But, have you been watching
some complete Milan-matches this season? They are not that strong on the field!
Not like in '89, when they played about the whole match on the half of the
opponent. Nowadays they're somewhat lucky to score many goals out of not so
many chances... For example the match against Sampdoria recently:
Sampdoria far out the best team, but Milan scores twice and Sampdoria once.

Strange thing... Don't think they'll loose a single game this year, though!


-- 
-  Q: Why do I like white beans in /\  Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) -
-     tomatosauce?                 \/    Schoterbosstraat 15                   -
-  A: Because PSV Eindhoven plays  /\      2023 TR  Haarlem                    -
-     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           -
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach)
Subject: Coppa Italia results
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:03:50 GMT

Coppa Italia, Quarterfinals, 1st leg:
------------------------------------

milan 0 - INTER 0

Napoli 0 - Roma 0

Juventus 2 - Parma 1
Vialli(2)    Brolin

Hopefully, Marco will provide us with some more insight regarding these
matches played tonight, especially *the* match at San Siro. Unbiased as
always, right Marco? :-)

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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject: Re: SOCCER NEWSGROUP
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:39:23 GMT

gullit@r-node.pci.on.ca writes:

>What is the basis of this "Anglocentric" view of the world? 
>Sure, the British may have invented football, but countries like Brazil
>and the Netherlands (not that I am biased) turned it into an art!

That is a subjective opinion.

>How about having news from around the soccer world, REPRESENTATIVE of the
>quality of play at both the club and national level?

If you want discussion from other places then make some! Less british
football news doesn't automatically give more news from other places.
-- 
Jesper Lauridsen      | Bramming Boldklub - 2x Danmarksserie
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |                        finale.
       There is no such club as "AGF Aarhus"
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Subject: SPURS AND MAN U  PLAYERS ????
From: $chiucs@brandonu.ca
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:31:10 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

  

          Can anyone post the present line-up for Spurs and Man united ?
          I have lost touch of English Football for 3 years already.
             
                THANKS!!!!
From: nydec@westminster.ac.uk (Charles Heath)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: SPURS AND MAN U  PLAYERS ????
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:06:46 GMT
Organization: University of Westminster


Here is the current Man Utd squad (including where they came from) :-

	Goalkeepers :	Peter Schmichiel (Brondby - Denmark)
			Les Sealey (Aston Villa)
			Gary Walsh (Trainee) (Injured)

	Defenders   :	Paul Parker (Q.P.R)
			Denis Irwin (Oldham)
			Gary Pallister (Middlesborough)
			Steve Bruce (Norwich)

	Midfield    :	Clayton Blackmore (Trainee)
			Mike Phelan (Norwich)
			Bryan Robson (W.B.A)
			Paul Ince (West Ham)
			Keith Gillespie (Trainee)

	Forwards    :	Brian McClair (Celtic)
			Mark Hughes (Barcelona)
			Eric Cantona (Leeds)
			Lee Sharpe (Torquay)
			Ryan Giggs (Trainee)
			Andrej Kanchelskis (Donetsk - Russia)
			Danny Wallace (Southampton)

Pretty impressive squad, wouldn't you say? I am sure that I have missed some
people out and I will be hounded by many people because of it, but I just typed
it off the top of my head, so I am not claiming it to be 100% accurate! I have
not included many of the reserve team players, only those who play in the first
team fairly regularly. By the way, have you noticed that, out of the players
listed above, only three have not won international honours. Those are Keith
Gillespie, because he is only 18, and Les Sealey and Gary Walsh who have had to
contest the same spot, so well filled by Shilton for all those years. Sealey is
knocking on a bit and Walsh will have to compete with the likes of Woods,
Martyn, Seaman, Coton and Tracey (when he recovers). But anyway, why do we need
another international keeper when we have the world's best keeper in
Schmichiel?

Anyway, enough boasting! I hope this has been of use to you. Sorry, I cannot
provide the Spurs squad, but there you go!

See you later!

Chig!

p.s. United for the title!

+------------------------+----------------------------------------------------+
| Charles Heath          | The Master of Disaster returns, and this time he's |
| -- " ANTIRIAD" --      | got a grant!                                       |
| nydec@uk.ac.westminster| "Oh no! Not again!" - Hitchhiker's Guide           |
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From: cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: You are that fan?
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:52:19 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


                        YOU ARE THE FAN


1.  Your team has won the European Cup Winners Cup.  Do you?

a)  Celebrate enthusiastically but lament the"hammer throwing" style
    in which the victory was achieved.

b)  Celebrate enthusiastically because its winning that counts above all.

c)  Celebrate enthusiastically by invading the pitch, battle with the
    police and generally terrorise the local population resulting in a
    ban the following year.


2.  Your team is 2-0 down in a national cup-tie.  Do you?

a)  Invade the pitch and stop the game for 25 minutes in the hope that the
    resulting intimidating atmosphere will enable your team to fight back
    and win, without fear of a ban from the tournament.

b)  Relax, because you know that the ref will award a penalty when your
    striker is brought down 3 yards outside the box and the opposition's
    moral will crumble, allowing your team a victory.

c)  Attempt to inspire your team with words of encouragement and singing
    football songs.


3.  You have the fortune to attend home matches in a seat which allows you
    access to the hospitality suites provided by your club.  Do you?

a)  Stop watching the game 30 minutes into the first half and indulge in
    the refreshments on offer.

b)  As in a), but do likewise 20 minutes before the end of the game.  You
    like to get your moneys worth.

c)  Enjoy the game, knowing that at half-time and full-time there are
    quality refreshments on offer.



4.   Your team has scored.  Do you?

a)   Celebrate and sing the praises of your team and the scorer.

b)   Not know, because you are partaking of the refreshments in
     hospitality.

c)  Sing and cheer about your own narrow-minded supremacy and the demise
    of a considerable number of people throughout the world, especially
    an old man living in Rome.


and finally....

5.  Your team is being run by a shower of incompetents who are seemingly
    sending the once greatest team in Britain into oblivion.  Do you?

Protest loudly until they see sense and allow people, who love the club
and who have business know-how and money, to take control and return
the club to the top of European Football.


Chris
aka Sean Questionarrean
From: ECMONT@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (EUGENE C MONTAGUE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: LOI results & Rovers (Shamrock)
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:57:43 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
NNTP-Posting-Host: phobos.ucs.umass.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1993Jan25.093858.8663@rdg.dec.com> spain@galvia.enet.dec.com writes:

> (stuff deleted)> 
> Shamrock Rovers and Waterford played out a scoreless draw at the RDS.  This
> was a very boring game and a poor Rovers side left the field to boos and
> catcalls.

More crap results for the Hoops :-(

Anyway, thanks are due to Gary for his regular and detailed postings on 
LOI and the Republic's games: - this is one exile that's very grateful.
I'm even well enough disposed to you, Gary, to congratulate Limerick on
reaching the top 6 - and that's not an easy thing for a Rovers fan to do.
From now on though `Forza Limerick!' and anybody else that can prevent that
shower from Dalymount going off with the title.

Speaking of the green and white hoops: are there any other Shamrock Rovers
fans out there? If there are perhaps one of them - or anybody that knows
anything about the LOI - can tell me just how badly Rovers are playing, if
there are any bright spots at all, how Ray Treacy's position is etc. Also 
just _who_ is playing for the team these days. Since I've been here in 
September I've lost touch.
Thanks in advance to anyone who answers and once again to Gary.   

> 
>        Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com
> 
>   On being a football fan: "I am aware of the downside to this wonderful 
>   facility that men have: they become repressed, they fail in their 
>   relationships with women,their conversation is trivial and boorish, they 
>   find themselves unable to express their emotional needs, they cannot relate
>   to their children, and die lonely and miserable. But you know, what the hell?"
> 								   Nick Hornby

Ps. Great Sig. I won't even try to match it. BTW has the Cup draw been made
yet
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From: tma@progress.COM (Tim Atchison)
Subject: Re: USSF F@#$ing IDIOTS!!
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:37:39 GMT

cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:

>In article <1993Jan22.135943.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>> 
>> [ CRAP deleted ]
>> 
>> Hamish, the mad Pict fae Scotland, author of CRAP FOOTBALL, SON OF CRAP
>> FOOTBALL, ETC
>> 
>Hamish,

>you are truly an ambassador for *The* University, in Strathclyde and indeed for
>the country as a whole.  It's no wonder certain sections of the net wish to
>distance themselves from the British offering if this is supposed to be
>considered, well written comment.  OK the original posting may have been
>misplaced but to resort to juvenile cursing to make the point does not help
>your cause, there is no need for it and as we know, it's not big - nor is it
>clever!  Please cut it  out.


>Daresbury, Dan.
>CBAR40@VAXA.STRATH.AC.UK

Well said, Dan. Boy, I wish someone would repost Russ Campbell's suggestions
for making r.s.s. a better forum for the exchange of ideas/information.
--
Timothy M. Atchison		UUCP: mit-eddie!progress!tma   FAX: 617-280-4655
Progress Software Corp.	    	INTERNET: tma@bedford.progress.com,
14 Oak Park, Bedford, MA 01730	tim.atchison@progress.com, tma@progress.com
#include <dstd/disclaimer.h>	"I`M THE CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT !!!" - Ren
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From: paulf@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Frankland)
Subject: FA Cup draw
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:15:49 GMT

Could someone post the draw for the 5th round of the FA Cup?
It would be very much appreciated by all us ex-pats. 
Haven't seen it posted yet.

Cheers,

Paul
Toronto

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