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From: bernie@lgc.com (Bernie De La Torre)
Subject: AFC Playoff Predictions
Organization: Landmark Graphics LGC
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:26:53 GMT

I think it will be Miami and Buffalo in the AFC Championship game.
They are the teams with the most playoff experience.

I think Marino will be hot for Miami. He knows he doesn't have that
many chances left, and he will make the best out of this. Look for the
Miami offense to go all out on Sunday. If ther defense has a decent
game, the score could be something like 31-10 for Miami.

I expect Buffalo to go all out also. They have nothing to lose now. 
They have to feel like they've been given a second chance and should be
pretty loose on Saturday. Pittsburgh does not have the fire power
to keep up.


This will set up another  Miami-Buffalo confrontation at Joe Robbie 
Stadium !!!

G O   D O L P H I N S  !!!!!!
 
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From: patrick@rio-grande.is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Chad Bergerson - the immature drone
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:21:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Who knows?

On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:58:30 GMT, boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) said:

[in his rant at Chad Bergerson]

>EAT SHIT, ALL AMERICAN FAGBOY!!!!!!!


>EAT SHIT, ALL AMERICAN FAGBOY!!!!!!!

>As my platoon sgt used to say - What the hell is your major malfunction
>shit for brains?  It used to crack me up when he'd nail a new guy.  All I
>can say, Chad, is that you are a real loser.  Lower than pond scum.  I tried
>to send you email but your email address isn't worth crap, so I'll just have
>to put your latest wonderful mail here in this group for all to see.  If there
>was any doubt as to your immaturity I think you have cleared that up for
>all of us.  I won't be so naive as to threaten you given that you'd probably
>run to mommy for support.  Suffice it to say that you have chosen an 
>appropriate place to work.  After all, the world is a dangerous place and it
>must be a great comfort to know that intensive care is just a few steps
>away.  

>Take care, dear friend.  I look forward with great anticipation to your 
>next silver tounged email.

>Don Boell

Gee, and I thought *I* had problems, being an Oilers fan...oh, well, maybe
you'll call me to give me the same warm reception you gave Chad.  Of course,
keep in mind that the University *does* have ANI on their lines...:-)

--PLH, +1 713 776-1541 at home, 527-4989/528-3626 at Rice, 667-6754 at the
bowling alley, and *still* an Oilers fan after all these years...



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From: clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: CRAP FOOTBALL STIKES AGAIN!
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:24:35 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

hi there it,s hamish here again, with just a few points to take up with all
you flammers.
Firstly i am SCOTTISH not bloody English so cut out your references to soccer
violence.This as always been a problem in England, but even they have it under
control know.In Scotland we have the best behaved fans in the world,at the
last world cup we were congratulated for our impecable behaviou in italy and at
the european championships this summer u.e.f.a gave out medals to all the
scottish fans who traveled to sweeden, because they were the best behaved fans
there, and had noone arrested.There has,nt been any serious troulble in home
matches, since we stoped playing the english, as they just came up here looking
for a barny.So get your facts right Scottish and English football are two
diffrent ball games.
As for someone saying soccer also has a drugs problem, well mayby it does in
america but it does,nt here.No Scottish footballler as far as l know has
ever been caught using drugs, and there are stingent tests carried out at
random,can you say the same about american football.
Oh what about those people whose best comeback is we won the war for you.
so what if you did,america had know need to get involved in any of the wars,
but they did saving british lives at the the expense of american lives.I
don,t know about you but I think we got the better deal.
By the way I know my spelling is terrible, but what's the differance
I am just writing a quick message to a newsgroup not a bloody theseis.

So all you ignoramuses out there,before you flame me, try and think
of an intelligent point to make first, if that's possible for a bunch
of couch potatoes.
notice the use of the dan quale spelling of potato,know there's a clever
guy.

Football Players Are Dickless

Hamish
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From: daugherb@b8.b8.ingr.com (Bruce Daugherty)
Subject: The Table is Set
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:04:25 GMT



      Hey Philadelphia...

          The table is set and there is PLENTY of crow pie to go
   around. You can share some with Pittsburg but don't eat to fast,
   you might choke!

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From: mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao)
Subject: Re: ANOTHER GREAT GAME!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 03:47:05 GMT


 
    As the NFL commercial goes,
 
    I AM A BIG FAN...
 

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From: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Subject: Re: Eagles Victory...
Reply-To: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:25:45 GMT

In article <3240@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan
Welch) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan4.194817.18066@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith) writes:
|> >Now, for those with short memories . . 
|> >
|> >Philly at Dallas 10 - 20.
|> >Dallas at Philly 7 - 31.
|> >
|> >Now which is a thrashing?
|> 
|> The first one, despite the score.  In the first game, Dallas played
just
|> as good as Philadelphia, but turned it over once when about to score,
and
|> twice more deep in their own territory.  It's hard to win when you
shoot
|> yourself in the foot so many times; Eagle fans should know that after
the
|> Packer game.  Didn't the Cowboys outgain the Eagles in the first
game?
|> 
|> The second game, in contrast, was a pretty complete domination by
the
|> Cowboys.  Emmitt had 163 yards, and the offense in total 398, against
the
|> then-ranked-1st defense.  The defense was all over the Eagles,
limiting
|> them to 201 yards, a couple of first downs, and 1-10 on third down. 
It
|> was only 3-0 at the half, but that doesn't reflect how much better
Dallas
|> was in the first half.  The Eagles had one (or maybe no) first downs,
and
|> Randall was something like 3-13 for 15 yards and done for the day. 
MacMahon
|> coming in surprised everyone, including the Cowboys' defense.  The
Eagles
|> got a quick touchdown, but that one drive was *it* for the whole
day.
|> 
|> The Eagles are playing better now, but so are the Cowboys, and you
better
|> believe Johnson is going to have them fired up for this one.  I'll
take
|> offense, coaching, special teams, and home-field over an
(ever-shrinking)
|> advantage on defense.
|> 
|> My prediction:  Cowboys 24-13.
|> 
|> Daniel Welch

But remember a truly "champinoship" caliber teams would have put the
Eagles away in the first half.  Come on, they were still in it at half
time when they only managed three first downs.  If the opposition would
have been the Skins or the 9ers say, the Eagles would have left at
halftime.
Remember, yards and stats don't win ball games, scores win ballgames.  

Need I say more ????

GO EAGLES!!!!

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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Cold and Windy Candlestick
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:45:52 GMT

In article <1ikh0m$3a7@agate.berkeley.edu>, rhan@messier.berkeley.edu (Richard Han) writes:
>If Candlestick is cold and windy AND rainy on Saturday, does the weather
>necessarily favor the Niners?  On one hand, the Niners are used to

The Redskins are quite used to cold and rain (from RFK experience).  But
Candlestick Park has a reputation as one of the most windy stadiums in the
NFL.  Rypien seems to be pretty poor at correcting for things like that.

In their game against the Vikings, the Redskins used Art Monk (WR) as a
running back some plays.  I wonder if mud favors big players or small ones.

>Forecast for the game is intermittent rain Saturday, highs in the mid-50's.

GO REDSKINS!  and assuming they win...
GO EAGLES!  (So I can attend the NFC Championship)

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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From: auwen@convex.com (John David Auwen)
Subject: Re: Giants Wooo Wannstedt ... 
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:31:01 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <Adriene_Nazaretian.109.0@QM.cis.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes:
>I cant imagine him turning it down.  I dont know much about him except that 
>he has worked wonders in Dallas, and that bodes well for the re-emergence of 
>the Big Blue Wreckin Crew.  (Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!)

Actually, I feel sorry for him if he goes to NY.  The honeymoon will be
over very shortly and impatient New York fans won't give him time to
"work wonders".   A few losses and the boo-birds will bombard him just
like they did Ray.   Also, the New York media is hell.  I give Wannstedt
2-3 years in New York before he's fired.

Then he'll come back to the Cowboys for another 3 years or so and take
over when Jimmy quits coaching.

Dave
auwen@convex.com
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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: moment of prayer
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:03:39 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5


There will be a moment of silent tomorrow (sat) at 12:00 EST.
for the BILLS




What the heck it worked last week!

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From: mfv23060@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Maurice F. Vallejo)
Subject: Cowboy's new guys?!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:15:33 GMT

the Boyz got two new players in the last 2 weeks, and they both scored TD's,
right?  One was Gainer on a 1 yard TD run, and the other was Tunnell(sp?) on
a short TD reception.  Gainer is the one who replaced Richards.

Am I right?

Dan.
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:44:34 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <1993Jan6.131408.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> For the regular readers of this newsgroup, some of you might remember
> a couple a artilcles written intiled crap football, well it's back after
                               ^------ 'entitled'? Learn to spell doofus...
> a long absence.

[loads of pompous bullshit deleted for sanity]

> So chew on that you self-serving, arogant illigitimates.
> 
> Real men play soccer
> 
> Hamish

Hamish, you should know better than to leave your terminal logged on and
unattended!

-Garrett



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From: ajj@zycor.lgc.com (Andrew Jackson)
Subject: Re: Is there one HONEST Bills fan?
Summary: Gag, wheez, ack, thump!
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:55:38 GMT


I am not a Bills fan, but one who has lived in Texas for 15+ years
(6 of them in Houston) and one who knows the Oilers quite well.

I thought it was over at the half and went on to other things. Just
out of curiosity (or some urging from the FOOTBALL GODS) I flicked the
game back on just in time to see Beebe's catch to pull the Bills within
35 - 17 early in the 3rd. When I saw this and the fans at Rich statdium
going absolutely beserk - I KNEW the Oilers were doomed and sat down to
enjoy the rest of the second half.

BTW: Someone mentioned that the radio announcers of the Oiler's network
were making plans for Pittsburgh at the half - who could blame them.
However, Bum Phillips - who does the color - said something like,
"Wait a minute! This one is not over yet!"). Maybe Bum will coach again?

Nah!

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From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Subject: Musburger, another ass
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:24:39 GMT

Iknow that this complaint doesn't have as much to do with football,
but . . . .

At one point, Musburger was talking about the ABC line-up following
the game, "America's Funniest Home Videos" blah blah and some Amy
Fisher movie.  Brent then says, "I'd like to see her funniest home
videos."

Not only a football dipshit but a social outcast and fuckwad.


-- 

Gary Beason    			      
Purdue University
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Goodbye Eagles and other questions
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:31:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <C0rFxp.B1t@encore.com> kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius) writ:
>kester@mte.ncsu.edu (Dan Kester) writes:
>
>
#Any rumors on if the team will be sold?  
>
>Not a chance.  I forget the figures but owning the Philly franchise for
>the last few years was very profitable.
>--
>Kevin Schnitzius                         Eagles -- Not America's Team, 
>kschnitzius@encore.com                             they're better than that.


Sorry guy, you are wrong here.  Yes the team was a veritable gold mine for
its owner: the team is worth about twice what he paid for it.  And yes, he
made about $7 million in profits on the team (don't quote me on this) but
Braman knows when a good thing is going. With Reggie leaving and collective
bargaining looming in the future Braman is looking to sell soon.  He is
quoted as having said that he would Reggie no matter what  though.

satish nair
From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL's MVP - Steve Young
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:38:49 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <1993Jan7.075157.16005@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM  
(JOHN) writes:
> It was announced tonight that Steve Young, 49ers QB, 
> has been selected NFL's MVP with Barry Foster a distance 2nd 
> and in 3rd place, Emmitt Smith.  Let the tides of whiners 
> come forth and decry the voting process. 
> 
> Personally, I find the idea of choosing a NFL player as the
> league's MVP when you have a handful of legitimate 
> contenders to be unfair.  It's a team sport! Neither of
> the aforementioned players could have accomplished their
> feats without the support from their teammates. 

I'm not going to whine, but can I "come forth" and say something anyway?  
:-)

Just some thoughts that came to me as I read your post:

* Should MVPs only be selected from teams that are rife with a bunch of
  losers? Sometimes that's warranted...but make it a stipulation?
* Should very good players be penalized because they happen to play with
  other good players?
* In a team sport, *no one* can do anything without at least one other
  person's help. That's inherent in the concept of "team sports."
* There's obviously a lot of opinions/arguments about what should
  constitute an "MVP"...but one thing that can't be disputed is that you
  can only have MVPs within team sports. If you try to have MVPs in
  individualistic sports, like tennis or golf, it's impossible. Who would
  they be most valuable "to"?! So, if it seems we're stuck with MVPs in
  team sports only, and no one can accomplish what they do in team sports
  if it weren't for their teammates, and if that concept seems to negate
  the idea of any *one* person being "most valuable," then I guess the
  only thing left is to abolish the whole idea of an "MVP."
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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Intimidation Factor? : 'Boys/Eagles
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:38:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.184734.29320@ntmtv>, jmartin@ntmtv.UUCP (Jeff Martin) writes:
> Fact is the only intimidating team to win the
> SB in the last decade is Da Bears. The 9ers\Skins\Giants\Bears did it
> with good solid on the field play not by resorting a bunch of cheap
> talk, cheep hits or dragging shrines to dead guys around the country.
> This strictly bush-league stuff which doesn't have much affect on the 
> other side and tends to make perpetrator look unprofessional if not
> downright silly. 

First, intimidation does not mean cheap shots.

Second, if there is anything bush-league it is your attitude on the
Eagles dedicating their season to Jerome.  He was a big part of the
team and the community.  You don't think the Cowboys would dedicate
their season to Michael Irvin, Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, etc, if,
God forbid, something tragic happened to them?  You'd be flooding
this newsgroup with nothing but praise for their actions.

Third, look no further than last season's NFC conference semi-finals
to see how much affect a personal tradgedy can have on a football
team.  Remember Mike Utley?  Remeber Detroit 38, Dallas 7?

> Now if the Eagles enjoy this style or get a lift out of "intimidation"
> so be it. But don't live under some delusion that it matters any more
> to the outcome of the game than me wearing my lucky socks on Sunday.

On occasions it does matter.  Receivers that have success over the
middle early in the game can get short arms in the fourth quarter
after good, clean, solid hits early in the game.  That is not a
delusion it is a fact.

> The Cowboys (or any team left at this point) are not "scared" of
> anybody. They certainly have a healthy respect for a tough opponent as
> they should. The Eagles are very capable of winning this weekend if
> they put together a good game. They are also capable of blowing their
> emotional wad in what is just another stepping stone to the ultimate
> goal, a Super Bowl title. For evidence recall the games following the 
> Oct. 5 Monday night match-up.

As you stated above, "the games following the Oct. 5 game."  Not
during the game itself.  And despite what all you Cowboys fans wish to
believe about the Eagles losing streak after the MNF game, it had more
to do with injuries on defense and a slumping QB more than the team
blowing their emotional wad.

> My greatest fear is that when/if the Eagles make it to the SB that 
> they'll be exhuming bodies and suiting them up to get that
> emotional high they seem crave so much.

You're a fuckin' dickhead.


E-A-G-L-E-S

Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
jmd@aluxpo.att.com

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From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Bills suck !
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 01:27:11 GMT

Well last week my prediction was that the Bills players didn't care and
it would be Houton: 98 ; Buffalo: 0. But, the players percieved that 
the fans knew their of their lack of interest since the game was blacked
out, etc.
So, knowing that they were playing for their next paycheck, they put on
one hell of a show. Now, that they have rekindled support, they figure
that it would be nice to spend Monday in Hawaii on vacation.
The Bills don't even want to show up Saturday. Most are faking injuries.
Prediction: Steelers 10
            Bills: 0
(I would write in 98 points for the Steelers, but they suck too. I figure 
that 10-0 is the closest they'll evere come to a blowout.)

--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

The meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.
From: divitt@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Mark Divitt)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:13:40 GMT
Subject: Re: YO for MO
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro


>Washington Redskins will attempt to trade Wilbur Marshall and Alvin
>Walton for Steve Young of San Frisco.
>I would hate to lose Marshall but it does make sense due to salary cap(6M).
>Steve Young would guide Redskins with his offensive weapons. It is
>time to sent Rypien to CFL. San Frisco would gain from this trade.
>They have Bono, Montana (2-3 more good years) and Musgrave. With Marshall
>and Walton's hard hitting defensive. Frisco have nothing to lose.

Get REAL buddy!!  Young is MVP of the ENTIRE LEAGUE!!!  I agree that
Marshall is a quality player and the 'Skins have QB problems, but you
are (WET) DREAMING PAL!!!  

The S.F. 49ers will be the FIRST team to win 5 Super Bowls.
You heard it HERE first (well, maybe not first :-)

Mark
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From: rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN)
Subject: THE BUFFALO BILLS READY TO SQUISH THE FISH!! :)
Originator: rdarnese@c00735-239rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:01:55 GMT




  It was clearly evident that the same luck that occured against the first
  Bills-Dolphins game reared its' ugly head against the Chargers. It's a 
  one-game deal, and it only occurs once in a blue moon. You can thank
  Humphries' bad pass selection for your win... shutout or not. Thurman
  Thomas is still the man, and the Bills are pumped up and ready!!!
  No one slides in to get the AFC East and comes out alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  

  It's time for Buffalo to brush the Fish aside, and win the Super Bowl!! :)

  
  Buffalo Bills vs. San Fransisco 49ers in the Super Bowl!!! :)
-- 
--rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu
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