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From: pitre@n5160d.nrl.navy.mil (Richard Pitre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Memory Question
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:02:08 GMT

I have some low profile 100 nanosecond, 30 pin, 1 megabyte non parity  
simms. Which Macintoshes can use this type of memory.

- Richard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: davidw@jessica.Stanford.EDU (David J. Whelan)
Subject: PowerBook question
Reply-To: davidw@jessica.Stanford.EDU (David J. Whelan)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:41:37 GMT

Here's a stupid question about the PowerBook 170 that's been causing
me a lot of problems recently.  Actually, I guess it's a couple of
questions.

When the AC adaaptor is plugged in, should the lighting bolt always
appear in the Battery DA, or will the icon disappear when the battery
has been fully charged?

My reason for asking this is that one of our company's PowerBooks
continues to occasionally sleep, even though it is plugged in and set
to not sleep when plugged in.  The adaptor is fine, so I'm not sure if
it's a problem with the PowerBook power connector, or the software, or
something else.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
David J. Whelan
davidw@jessica.stanford.edu
From: rainer@pandoras-box.path.med.ufl.edu (Robert Rainer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 512  or 512KE
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:35:47 GMT
Distribution: us

Hello;

	I inhereted and old 512K mac that I am using as a terminal to talk with
my mac at work.  I would like to stick a daughter board on it so that I could
hook up a scsi hard drive.  I really do not know if this sucker is a 512K or
512KE, and I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on the difference.

	The mac has a dove mac snap board on it, so it has 1 meg of usuable ram.
The ROM has an 86 date on it, and can read 800K disks.

	Any help would be wonderful, since the upgrade people want to sell me $300
pluss roms that I do not think I need.

thanks--rr

rainer@pandoras-box.path.med.ufl.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: weigert@etlhit.etl.go.jp (Thomas Weigert)
Subject: Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Reply-To: weigert@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba-shi, Japan
	<1992Aug14.143023.16072@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<2A8DE726.2151@orion.oac.uci.edu>
	<1992Aug17.132220.21305@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<WEIGERT.92Aug18131635@etlhit.etl.go.jp>
	<1992Aug18.131234.9706@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<dmeyers.714171446@mal-s1>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:43:09 GMT


DM> In <1992Aug18.131234.9706@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:


>    Yes, I know that there are a number of cases where people can't get
>sys 7 versions of their software for whatever reasons, but that doesn't
>make system 7 a 'disadvantage'. Incompatible, and sometimes even
>unacceptable but there is nothing about System 7 that is disadvantageous,
>and that was the point I was trying to make. For a number of people,
>System 7 just isn't currently an option for them, but given the option
>of either system version I still don't see there being any disadvantage
>to choosing 7 over 6.

DM> Perhaps you misunderstand.  System 7 isn't the disadvantage. 
DM> The disadvantage lies in machines which won't run older OS versions.
DM> For people for whom system 7 is not an option, neither are new
DM> machines which require it.

That was exactly my point also. If you spent $7000+ on a lisp board, and
you know it will never run under System 7, then a machine incapable of
running System 6 is not an option (no matter how nice System 7 is
otherwise).

Cheers, Th.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Problem:  SE formats HD floppy as DD, but LC rejects it...why?
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:13:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.220909.14770@eng.umd.edu> russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.151614.3275@otago.ac.nz> stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:
>>
>>Is it even possible to tell the formatting type by looking at the
>>media? Wouldn't you would have to know the formatting type  to be
>>able to even try reading the disk (i.e. Catch-22)? I don't know,
>>I'm only a software guy :)
>
>Buried in one of the tech notes is a disk-inserted code which means
>'high-density disk formatted as 800K'.  Assuming that code really
>appears, I'd think Apple ought to recognize it, announce the
>situation, and at least allow READING the disk.
>-- 
>Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu

The Macintosh *must* be able to read that formatting information...
at least enough to be able to tell that it's an 800K formatted disk.
The reason?  When I get my alert box, it does *not* tell me that
the disk is unformatted...it tells me that the disk was not formatted
correctly...

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From: Pat_Stephenson@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac SE/30 fails to start up, plays dumb tune instead :-(
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:10:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: transarc.oeYZNcT0BwwxJgaUZz
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


My Mac SE/30 has failed to start up on an intermittent basis for the
last few months.  Up until recently, I could always get the machine
going by trying a few times, but not any longer.  Instead of booting
from the disk, the screen stays a uniform gray and the machine plays a
stupid tune.  Other possibly relevant information:

1) Machine won't boot from floppy either.
2) The HD select light doesn't come on.  I do hear "scratching" noises
   from the HD, though. 
3) Machine has 5 megs of memory, 40 meg disk.  I put in 4 meg myself
   right after getting it.
4) The problem persisted arcoss a system 6/system 7 upgrade. 

I have 2 alternative hypotheses:

1) Memory.  Some of the SIMM's need to be reseated (OK) or replaced
   (yuk).  If the second case, is there any easy way to find out which
   SIMM is causing the problem ?

2) HD Stiction problem.  I wish (it's still covered by Apple).  But
   since the machine won't boot from floppy either, I think that this
   is more or less ruled out.  Right?

Any comments on these hypotheses, or other suggestions, would be much
appreciated.  If I do have to take the machine to a dealer, I would
like to be as well-informed as possible.

Incidentally, having just moved to Pittsburgh, I am unfamiliar with
the Mac dealers in the area.  If anyone has any positive or negative
comments about any of them, particularly with respect to service, I'd
love to hear them.

Pat Stephenson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Subject: Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?
Organization: Paoli Research Center - Paoli, PA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:27:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.173259.1236@das.harvard.edu> vreddy@das.harvard.edu (Venkatesh Reddy) writes:
>
>Are you a system 7 user? at all? ever played with it extensively? Except for a
>few minor memory management errors which almost never surface, system 7 is
>definitely better. Yes it's bigger, but it's also better... definitely NOT slower.
>It has helped me optimize my performance on my IIci much more than system 6 ever
>could. More complex? Sure it is... but that's because it is more versatile and
>flexible... But, unless you plan to root around in the OS assembly code, which
>I find highly improbable, then system 7 is NOT at a disadvantage to system 6,
>and in fact, I think the advatages of 7 over 6 FAR FAR outweigh the disadvantages
>(if there are any).

Hey, calm down!

Yes, I use System 7 every day.  I have since it came out.  My posting
was in response to someone who thought that System 7 is Better In
Every Way.  I simply pointed out that:

|> System 7 is
|>    - bigger,
|>    - slower,
|>    - more complex.

Do you want to argue with "bigger"?  Check your "About this Macintosh"
Apple menu item.  Or just count your installation disks.

Do you want to argue with "slower"?  I have both a 16MHz LC running
System 6.0.8 with Finder, and a 20MHz IIsi running System 7.0/TuneUp
7.1.1.  The LC is clearly the faster of the two.  Do you do such a
side-by-side comparison every day?

Do you want to argue with "more complex"?  It enforces the MultiFinder
paradigm.  Finder menus have more things in them.  Changing file names
is much tricker.  It has aliases.  Typing into a modal dialog behaves
differently if there is a selection list present.  My daughter hates
it.

I refuse to get into a religious war over which is better (if you read
carefully you will have noticed that I did not state an opinion on
the matter), but I do get irritated by fanatics who have found the One
True Way and who get upset whenever anyone sees things differently.

-- 
And the President put his hand on my shoulder and said: "Dan, 
I _knew_ Spiro Agnew.  He was a friend of mine.  And Dan...  
You're no Spiro Agnew!"
                -- Vice President Dan Quayle pwd
From: udsugar@mcs.drexel.edu (David Sugar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Recording in STEREO on a IIsi???
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:15:25 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

In article <168426D2.UC580591@mizzou1.missouri.edu> UC580591@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Evan T. Carpenter) writes:
>I would like to use the STEREO performance of the IIsi to its fullest
>extent.  I would like to be able to record in stereo.  Which programs
>will support the STEREO input?  What software out there is useful for
>experiencing the true pleasure of STEREO sound?
> 
>Thanks for any suggestions:


For software the what I really like to use is SoundEdit Pro which is by
MacroMind (I beleive).  They are the people who make MacRecorder.  But,
unless I am mistaken, the IIsi can't directly record stereo.  The 
microphone is only a mono device.  To get stereo you will need some other
sound input hardware to get true stereo.

  Dave Sugar
  udsugar@mcs.drexel.edu
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: recommend a 14.4k modem?
Date: 16 Aug 1992 19:21:58 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu



	the Supra V.32.bis fax send/receive has left a favorable
	impression so far (though I have only tested the data and
	not the fax capabilities).
-- 
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              "Free Advice and Opinions -- Refunds Available"
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From: eafu039@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wayne Chen)
Subject: Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:30:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.132220.21305@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
>eafu039@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wayne Chen) writes:
>
>>Keep one more thing in mind, the IIsi and the IIci can run System 6.x
>>(the si can only run 6.07 and later) while the new machine will only be
>>able to run system 7 and later.  This may be a disadvantage for some
>>people.
>
>    While I agree that this could be useful information to keep in mind,
>how in the world could this be "a disadvantage for some people"?
>
>
>
>--
>-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info
>		   "A clear case of curare poisoning
>	       of one of her Majesty's Cold-Cream Guards"
>						   -- Durlock Holmes

	Because not everyone has updated their softwares to system 7 yet, and that some may prefer system 6 over system 7.  Please don't turn this into a flaming debate, I'm merely pointing this out so that people can use the info as a consideration to buy a machine that's best fit for them.

Wayne
From: ltp@uswest.com (Halfman-Halfmachine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Do not buy the Asante SCSI ethernet adapter
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:25:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies

In article <1992Aug14.185605.16863@ntg.com> dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt) writes:
>
>My impression is that the SCSI implementation in the Asante EN/SC is
>deficient in a number of ways.  It doesn't respond to an INQUIRY command
>(bad manners!) and the EN/SC INIT must be using some other sort of
>technique to locate the device.  The drivers (even the current ones)
>still seem to be distinctly buggy.
>

I quite agree. In a previous article I posted regarding a PB170, Asnate'
EN/SC and a SCSI monitor, I was having problems recognizing all devices
on the chain. I ended up talking with all parties involved and a few
other third parties as well. The eventuality follows:

Asante' EN/SC boxes are not truly SCSi devices in the fact that they
do not contain a SCSI chip, or a processor. The processor is optional,
however, without one in the external device the processing power is then
consumed in the MAC. From what I gathered, the Asante' software runs the
SCSI  data transfer and passes it on to the Mac processor. I ended up
getting a different external SCSI ethernet adapter from a local firm and
everything works great. Mail me if you have an interest in this device,
and I will pass on what I know. Thanks to :

Arthur H. Walker <ahw@egret0.stanford.edu> and
Malcolm J. Rayfield <mjr059@mipl5.jpl.nasa.gov> for their suggestions.



-- 
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   DoD 789   
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Daryl Biberdorf)
Subject: Re: Problem:  SE formats HD floppy as DD, but LC rejects it...why?
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:34:36 GMT

In article <16p3s9INNo7u@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> gregt@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gregory M Ferrar) writes:
>>> The only way the LC knows what size floppy you insert is by mechanically
>>> sensing the "extra" hole.  Hole == HD floppy.  You'd get the same results
>>> trying it in one of the later SEs with the HD floppy drive.
>>
>> I know that the behavior described is indeed the way the Mac
>> does things, but it seems kind of silly.  DOS machines routinely
>> "adapt" to the format of the floppy inserted into the drive,
>> provided the drive is capable of writing the format the disk is
>> using.  My 1.4 MB drive has no problem at all recognizing and properly
>> using 720K diskettes without being told which it is.
>
>The mac does this too-- if you put an 800K disk in a SuperDrive it reads it
>fine.  The problem is when you format a HD floppy as an 800K floppy (a bad idea
>anyway) and then put it in a SuperDrive.  The SuperDrive assumes that since
>it looks like a HD floppy, it should be formatted like a HD floppy, and thus
>interprets the 800K formatting as an error.  Now it would be nice if it took
>things a step further, and did one further test to see if it was a HD floppy
>formatted as 800K, but I don't think my DOS drive does that either.  And if
>it did that, it should also be able to read 800K floppies (unnotched) formatted
>like HD floppies (i.e. cut out the notch, format it, and tape over the notch.
>Which is getting a little ridiculous.

Well, I just took a HD 3.5" diskette, formatted it using FORMAT B: /F:720
(for a 720K format).  Doing a DIR B: results in it telling me that 
approximately 720K is free on the diskette.  This test was performed on
a Compaq Deskpro 486/33L running DOS 5.0.  No muss, no fuss.  I think
Apple should consider implementing that second check you mentioned.

Daryl
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com (Larry Gilmore)
Subject: MacIIx-Sys 7 problem
Summary: IIx System7
Keywords: IIx System7
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:34:36 GMT

A collegue has run into one I've not yet heard of.  He is Mac knowledgeable
and has used this IIx for a couple of years with Sys 6.0.x.  It has a
Radius 2-page gray-scale monitor and a 3-Com ethernet card.

He decided to go to Sys 7, as he had run it on his IIcx at home for long
enough to gain confidence.  The install failed, and now if he tries to boot 
from a Sys 7 floppy, the cursor is dead along with everything
else!  He can boot from a 6.0.x floppy and the IIx seems to be OK.

Anyone seen anything like this before?  Please respond to me, as he is off
the net until he gets a fix.  And he's having withdrawal symptoms!

Larry

Larry A. Gilmore             Internet: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com
TRW SEDD, DH1/2849
P.O. Box 6213                Phone:    (310)764-3318
Carson, CA 90746             Fax:      (310)764-3946

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TRW SEDD, DH1/2849
P.O. Box 6213                Phone:    (310)764-3318
Carson, CA 90746             Fax:      (310)764-3946
From: WIS@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP VGA Monitor wiring?
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:04:19 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

I have a Mac IIsi and work in a department full of PC's of one description
or another. I use a mono monitor, but occassionally would like to see
stuff in colour. Lots of the PC's have colour VGA monitors and the manuals
for at least some of them describe them as Mac II compatible.

So, has some one out there got a wiring diagram to let me hook up to one of
these beasts since I've no objection to building my own lead (and I am
interested!), or alternatively tell me where I can get hold
of the right adaptor?

Our news reader seems to have died at the moment, so I'd prefer any
answers Emailed (and I guess this question's been asked before...)

Thanks in advance :->

Bill Sellers (wis@uxb.liv.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
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Subject: MacinPlay Digest Information- Read me!
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 01:23:37 GMT


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wrast@nyx.cs.du.edu (Winston MacKenzie Rast)
Subject: Best driver for APS Quantum 105?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 22:51:39 GMT

Ok, I just got my external LP105 drive from APS and now I'm left wondering:
what would be a better driver for the drive? SilverLining or the Alliance 
Power Tools that came with the drive? 
wr